The Joe Rogan Experience - #1265 - Andrew Schulz
Episode Date: March 14, 2019Andrew Schulz is a stand up comedian known for his work on Guy Code, The Brilliant Idiots podcast and the Amazon original series "Sneaky Pete." https://www.youtube.com/theandrewschulz ...
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ready headphones sir oh yeah do i have to they're better lock in are we live hey andrew how you
doing i'm good how are you i'm good man what's up chilling man thanks for having me thanks for
being here dude of course of course hey i like what you're doing thank you i like a lot of things
you're doing first of all i like that you're you decided to put all your shit on youtube yes fuck
it yeah look it's hard look there's about a million fucking comedians today
right there's more comedians now than ever these officers all right you don't yeah i'll lock in
don't have to have them on there's like a million comedians today yeah and a lot of these companies
are overwhelmed yeah no room for all these up-and-coming guys that are coming up yeah and
you know some some guys like you are really coming guys That are coming up Yeah And you know
Some guys like you
Are really good
Thank you
They're looking
You know like
How do you
How do you get your shit out there
Well
Just put it out there on YouTube
Exactly that
Huh
Yeah
I mean everybody just said no to me
That was a thing
So I didn't have a choice
Well a lot of people
That's happening to Brian Cowan right now
Right
And then he just did his right
Yeah
I posted his thing
But
But he's releasing it on iTunes.
He's releasing it on all the other platforms.
Right.
But there's no fucking room.
Yeah.
It's a weird thing because I guess for me, the stand-up industry wasn't really inviting
to me, even from the beginning.
So a couple years ago, I filmed my own, especially when I did it in New York.
And I did five clubs, and I did the cab rides in between.
And the idea was, all right, if you don't fuck with me,
at least you can appreciate this part of stand-up that is being a New York guy.
Did you do 15-minute sets in each place?
Oh, wow, that's cool.
Yeah, so I was like, if you love the game,
you at least will take a look at this and maybe support this.
Right.
And everybody said no like
CISO said no whoa and I had a show with them like like bro it was bad like humbling you know
and uh but I just believed in the project and I thought it was dope so I cut like uh
I cut a 15 minute version but I'll tell you why I did it Because You can learn everything you need About stand up
From asking people
Who don't do stand up
Really?
Yeah like
I ask all my friends
And just people I meet
I'll be like
Who you watching?
You know these days
And you know
They'd say the names
That we all know
And then they'd always say this
They'd be like
Yeah it was funny man
But I didn't finish it
Hmm
Everybody said that right?
And I was like
Alright so it's too long
Yeah
So I cut it down to 15 I did like a 15 minute version of the special. I did four clubs
And I just put it right on the youtube
and um
It was weird. I like sold out shows that weekend in san diego and I was never a sellout guy
You know, I have a few guys come out from the podcast I do and that kind of stuff
But it was never like a like a sellout, you know, right and I was like, well, that's kind of weird
And then I did a show in like
columbus ohio you know the what is it the funny bone out there yeah a great club great club and
um i think we sold like 1600 tickets and i was like what the fuck is happening like i was never
not in ohio you know and like people were coming out like i liked your thing i was like oh shit
maybe people are are watching this and i started to kind of like sit back for a. I was like, oh, shit, maybe people are watching this.
I started to sit back for a second.
I was like, why are people watching it?
Maybe it's short.
I was like, all right, fuck it.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to put a joke out a week for a year.
I got another 45 minutes left of the special, and I could probably produce some more stand-up.
I'll just put a joke out a week.
There was this singer who was doing that. He just put a song out a week there was this singer who was doing that and like he just put a song out a week his name was russ and i was like all right that's he's a worker i can i can at
least control that i can outwork somebody so i'll do that and uh i put the joke out for a week and
like the joke started to go and like someone would go viral and i was like yo this is crazy
and people are coming out to shows and then my youtube guy hits me he goes yo something weird is happening i go what's up and he goes when people watch a clip they'll watch for two hours
i go what do you mean like they'll just get lost in a wormhole and i go so wait a minute so people
aren't watching an hour of stand-up on the networks because it's too long but they're
watching two hours of mine i'm, why the fuck would that happen?
and
We figured out that it was you made the choice
When you're in control of your destiny
Right, you'll invest as much time as you want. It's hitting snooze on the alarm clock. So i'll take another eight minutes
I'll take another eight minutes. I won't set my alarm clock for an hour later
Yeah, that would be irresponsible.
But I'll snooze, snooze, snooze.
And when people make their own fucking choice, it was like, it was just crazy to see what happened, man.
It's also the platform.
The platform, I mean, people on their phones.
Netflix told me that half the people that watch my special watch it on a phone.
Of course.
Absolutely.
So people that are watching phones, you're on that goddamn thing all day long, and it's
way easier to flip a channel.
It's way easier just, you got that remote in your hand anyway when you're sitting at
home.
Yeah.
That's a really good point.
Yeah, when you're on your phone, you're going full screen.
You got to tap it, move it.
And you don't know what's next.
Right.
I know if I turn this channel, it's ESPN2.
Exactly.
I don't know if I leave this video
What I'm gonna see next
Yeah
Yeah 100%
There's a little bit of that
There's a little bit of phone addiction
That contributes to a lot of views
Yeah
But people love fucking YouTube
They love it
I mean YouTube never ends
You could be on it for the rest of your life
And not put a dent in the content
That's on there
Yeah
I mean
It's space
Yeah especially if you have like
Me I got a lot of weird interests
Like you look at like
What it suggests for me
Yeah
It's like shit on the cosmos
Muscle cars
Professional pool matches
MMA
Yeah
It's chaos
Yeah
Archery
It's all elk hunting and shit
It's crazy
Like I could
Never leave my fucking house
Just sit with my phone
Plugged in the wall
And just
Numb my brain
And it'll keep suggesting shit to you right Oh yeah And you're like yeah i do want to check that out as soon as they did that
i i saw this when back when there was no suggestions remember those days of course the
dark days yeah as soon as they started suggesting shit i was like oh my god that's a that's a game
changer yeah and then the next video just automatically plays like oh you got us so
yeah so it's over it's like it's just right there you have all your
access points to it you know i mean that that was the beauty of it i found it's like you know with
a special your fate you're you're maybe the best joke that you have on your special to someone else
is 33 minutes in right so that guy's gotta wait 33 minutes hoping you're gonna hit that joke
right on youtube like if i had
your special and i cut it up to jokes on youtube what topic not you know everything under an
umbrella you know and you have an access point here you have let's say six different access
points with the new special i have out now right it's it's six different pieces so it's a different
access point every single time some people might come for a trump joke some people might come for a tranny joke it doesn't matter right so it's not the situation where you have
to go okay maybe i hit 37 minutes in this bit that i love no you're gonna get that bit right away and
then you're gonna go back to the beginning and go okay i'm gonna watch this all the way through
it's the music model like for me i didn't anything. I just stole it from music. Right. It's like musicians put out a single for a reason.
Yeah.
I kind of, I'd like that if you're thinking about marketing.
Yes.
Complete, complete.
Like you and I are in way different places with standup, right?
Like you're one of the most famous people in the world, right?
So you don't need to find new people to see you.
People are going to watch your standup because they're like, all right, I have an intimate relationship with this guy.
I listen to him eight hours a week, and I just want to see his stand-up.
I'm still in marketing phase.
I'm like, how can I get new people to see me?
There's five people that should have comedy specials now.
That's more than that.
There's five.
Hey, send Jeff out to get lighters.
Tell him to go get some lighters.
You, Rock, Chappelle, Loulle louis burr that's it everybody else
should be an acquisition face why i don't know about that man i don't buy into that i don't
first of all i don't think that way i never worry about what other people are doing i just don't i
don't think about it and then two all i concentrate on is doing my best shit that's it
right and once i got to a point where i was successful enough where i didn't have to worry
about money it was a huge relief and honestly i think i started doing my best work of course
because then i wasn't thinking i didn't have any resources that were dialed into how do i promote
this and how do i get that going All my resources like This bit needs something more
I gotta figure out
How to really sell that
I gotta put
Maybe if I switched it around
And so it's all about alchemy
Yeah
You know
It's all about adding shit
Yeah yeah
And trying to make gold
Yeah
All I'm doing is like
Stirring in the lab
Trying to make gold
Cause you love creating though
Yeah well I don't have
There's no thoughts
On marketing now
But that's
You found out you love creating Yeah for sure I've always loved creating But Well, I don't have, there's no thoughts on marketing now. But that's, you found out you love creating.
Yeah.
Oh, for sure.
I've always loved creating.
But people don't, some people don't know that.
Like some, I feel like success teaches you exactly what you wanted.
Like these people who blow up with standup and never do it again.
Yeah.
They never wanted to be a standup.
Right, right, right.
Right.
It's like, if you blow up and all you're thinking about is how do I make this toe knuckle hair
joke better?
Right, right.
You love the game.
Yeah.
You're like, I don't know, the greatest thing that ever happened for me was I stopped desiring things I couldn't control.
Right?
Like I realized, oh, I don't care about a special on HBO or Netflix.
I just wanted people to see it.
And if they see it and 10 people see it that's cool because i just
loved making it and if a million people see it that's also cool but if anybody sees it it's
gratitude right you see what i'm saying like before i was just this void like so many so much of us
are like comics i was just like trying to fill up you know like i'm sure you get you know people
asking to be on the show and all that shit on it all the time and like it's just comics trying to
take fill themselves.
And I was an entitled little fucking brat probably.
Why don't I have a special?
Why don't I have this shit?
There's a lot of that going on.
It's useless, bro.
But I couldn't.
You know how every rich person goes, money doesn't make you happy,
and every poor person is like, man, when I'm rich, I'm going to be happy?
Yeah.
I feel like it's like that.
I needed to get a certain amount of success for me to realize,
man, I just love making these things.
Yeah.
Everybody does.
Everybody does.
And if you don't, I mean, you're either blessed or stupid.
Like one of those things.
It's either you're this guy that's just pure
or a woman who's pure right from the jump,
and you're just all about creating.
But it's really just about, you know, I was talking to Shab about it.
Love Shab.
Shab's a brainer.
That we were at the comedy store.
We were about to go on stage.
I'm like, how fun is killing?
Killing's the most fun.
I don't understand how people could quit this.
Yeah.
You quit doing comedy, man.
How do you, why would you quit?
I'm like,
out of all the shit that I do,
if they said
you could only do one,
I'd be like,
comedy.
It's not a question.
Everything else
I could just pretend I'm doing.
You know,
whether it's UFC commentary,
I just sit at home
and watch TV
and just talk about
what someone's supposed to be doing.
You can't fake it.
Right.
Can't fake comedy.
You can fake
literally everything else.
Everything else.
You can't fake killing. Yeah, you and i could have the same fucking conversation we probably would if there was no
cameras no exactly if you and i were just chilling in the main room green room with the comedy store
we probably have the same conversation facts 100 yeah but when you go up there that is a that is a precision art form that requires calculation and also
zen like smoothness and alpha flow you got to be in the zone you got to be in that flow state
yep you got to be happy yeah but you also got to be focused you'll be having a good time but
concentrating on these people and and projecting to them and you want them to have a good time
you know the whole deal is one of the best things about this job is you're making people feel good.
Yes.
They're coming out of their house to see you and they come out of there feeling better.
They have a good time.
Yeah.
If everything goes right, they feel better.
And my mom said the exact same thing.
She's like, you're very lucky.
You get to make people feel good for a living.
You have an ethical job.
Yes.
How rare is that?
Imagine you're one of these insurance guys that has to tell people they can't get their
bills paid from their car accident because it was their fault.
Or imagine if you're one of those big tobacco guys.
You're driving around at Rolls Royce knowing that someone's on an iron lung somewhere.
Yeah.
Jamie, where's the lighter?
Knowing someone's drowning in their own fluid.
Yeah, you feel like shit.
And you just fly me to the moon.
Let me play among the stars.
Dude, it's the best.
It's like, it's bullfighting.
Yeah.
That's what we do.
My buddy said it so well.
He's like, because people used to always make the boxing analogy
And I hated that
Because I used to box a little bit
And like I never at all felt
That it was similar
Like I've never heard a boxer go
Yeah this is just like stand up
It is like a martial art
In that the truth is what works
I'll go on that
Because in martial arts, particularly in martial arts, not just in boxing, but boxing is a martial art.
But the only stuff that works is the stuff that works.
And if you hit a guy and he goes unconscious, it doesn't matter.
One of the things that I used to like about fighting was that everybody could hate me.
And I didn't care.
I didn't care because when I Got in there I'm like
I knew that I was
Going to fuck that guy up
It doesn't matter
What his friends think
It doesn't matter
How loud
His parents cheer
I'm going to kick
That dude in his head
And I'm going to
Separate him
From his consciousness
And that's just
Going to happen
And there's nothing
And you can hate me
All day long
It doesn't matter
But then I had to
Switch gears
100%
Into comedy
And I thought
They were so different
And then I realized
Because in comedy you have to get the people to like you
You can't just have these ideas and be unlikable
Can't you get them to respect you?
Yeah, but they gotta like you
I mean you can get them to respect
But even respect is liking you
Like you have to be
Someone can say one thing
Like the late great Brody Stevens who just passed
If you looked at Brody's material on paper, some of it wasn't funny.
And when you looked at it in real life, it was some of my best material that I ever saw anybody do.
Because Brody's personality was so likable and he was so funny on stage that you just wanted to laugh at him.
He figured out how yeah it's yeah and
when i was starting out i didn't have that i was i couldn't i didn't i had a hard time making that
switch then once i get better it's i got better at stand-up i realized like oh there's it's so
similar because either it's funny or it's not funny like either it works or it doesn't work
and your job is not like some comics get
they get caught up in their image they get caught up in how they want the audience to think of them
and they dress a certain way on purpose because they want to project this image and they'll even
say things on stage that are kind of gross yeah that they're they're only saying it because they
want the audience to think they're cool right and it gives you a little like ew but maybe they're good enough so that you see it not everybody yeah it is authenticity
illuminates all those comics can't follow a real comic right have you ever noticed this like when
you see someone who's being truthful he might not even be as funny he might not be killing as hard
but it's so authentic That when the comic comes next
It feels like they're reading jokes off a paper
Right
Right
And it's
Our bodies are keyed into
Like comedy's reptilian
If you do it right
Right
You know like a lot of times
People ask like
Why like old women can laugh at the same jokes
That I'm telling
That like these young people can laugh at
And then
My response is always
It's not their choice Like I'm not Telling your jokes to can laugh at. And then my response is always it's not their choice.
Like I'm not telling your jokes to your choice.
Like the Daily Show Trevor Noah is jokes about how you want the world to be.
Right.
I'm telling you jokes about how you deep down feel it is.
I'm going at your gut.
It's reptile shit.
Yeah.
So it's like if it's in here already.
Right.
You're going to laugh regardless how old you are.
Regardless of how you were raised.
This is how you feel.
And I think it's why you guys love Diaz so much.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like, he doesn't know how to not be himself.
Right.
He's like, what is he?
Latin?
What kind of Latin is he?
He's a Cuban Larry David.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
It's just like, what is larry david
the whole show is what if someone was authentic 24 hours a day right what was patrice raw
authenticity 24 hours a day and we're drawn to that in its worst form in its best form
yeah but we're fucking drawn to that and like there's something beautiful that like that's
why i always use the bullfighter analogy It's like the bull for me
Is the premise
It's not the crowd
The crowd is still the crowd
It's like how close can I get to this dangerous premise
And I don't want to box with it
I want to dance with it
I want it to put his nose up against my nose
And then I want to skewer it
But before I skewer it
i want to fucking do that shit where i click my heels and i do the little cape and i want to
entertain the fuck out of the crowd right with this dangerous substance you know it's like that's
what the fuck we do that's why we roll our eyes when we see the pandering shit we're like right
what are you wasting this for exactly it's a fucking superpower well i think we're in this
weird time period you know there's an ebb and a flow to comedy and right now it's a fucking superpower well i think we're in this weird time period
you know there's an ebb and a flow to comedy and right now it's the weirdest ebb because right now
you have this weird comedy that it's people are saying things that they want the crowd to hear
rather than saying things that are funny. They're saying things to hit all these checkpoints of progressive thinking.
As a cis white male, I believe.
I don't say that word.
I mean, it's like.
That shit ain't real.
It's not real.
Like the special I have out now is called Views from the Cis.
Yeah.
It's a play off a Drake album called Views from the Cis.
But the idea is just like, yeah, these are straight guy views.
Yeah.
This is what the world needs right now.
Well, you know, the world needs authenticity.
Yes.
Whether it's authenticity from a trans person or authenticity from a straight guy.
The world needs someone to go out there and say what the fuck they really think and have a well-measured take on things.
And that's what I see you're doing what
you're doing is you're you're going out there you're expressing yourself and the great thing
about being turned down by all these platforms is they can't censor you yes they're not gonna tell
you hey andrew we really like you but um tranny we can't have trant you can't say that on our
network why not and then they go well i was like how come you can say cabbie but you can't have tran you can't say that on our network why not and then they go well i was like how come
you can say cabbie but you can't say tranny granny yeah granny the joke i have is transgender tranny
grandmother granny it's yeah how is this bad right what is happening where it's kind of cute bro it's
we do it out of love yeah if we shorten something and add a y it's affectionate sort of what's not uh
oh you pull your hammy talking shit to someone and call them shorty hey fucking shorty ready
yeah that's longer shorty is longer yeah if you add that's why blackie's wrong right right
so it's like the logic is there it It's impenetrable, right?
Sort of.
Yeah.
What about Japs?
What about it?
That's not good.
But Jappy's cute.
Oh, you're talking about Jews?
Are you talking about?
No, Japanese people.
Oh.
You call them the Japs.
Yeah, Japs.
That's how the World War II people.
Yeah.
Why is that bad?
Well, it's bad because that's how the soldiers used to talk about them and the people used
to talk about them during World War II when they were at war with them.
So here's my question.
What if somebody was like, you know who has one of the most refined cultures and delicious
cuisine that I've ever experienced?
These Japs.
That's right.
It's not bad.
You can't say that.
You can't say that.
You know who dances the best?
The Spicks.
Well, these Spicks be dancing, bro. They dance their ass off. dancing bro what are you gonna disagree with that they
can fucking dance isn't it intention right like it's like intent yes it's intent right it's like
so i was talking to this there was a um there there was a there's a trans chick that got upset
at the joke and she was like you know she basically said to me she's like how
you know you probably wouldn't like it too if as you were walking home at night someone called you
tranny and then threw a bottle at you and i was like i'm out respond to you know the negative
comments but all i'm thinking is if you were walking home at night and someone said transgender
and then threw a bottle at you i think it'd be equally upsetting yeah right it's not what the word is it's like
there are certain words that are made to make you feel bad the n-word is made specifically to make
you feel bad unless you're a black guy and you're using it with your friends right and even then
it is like you can use it however you want but the designation of the word right is to make you
feel bad that's what it's designed for
That's what it was
Designed for
But I think black people
Have successfully
Taken a word
That was negative
And empowered it
Sure
To the point where
It's laughing
Fun
Absolutely
They're having good times
And bad times
And you could use it
To describe a powerful person
Yeah
You could use it
To describe an amazing artist
An amazing athlete
Yeah yeah
You could use it In all the ways an amazing athlete yeah you could use it
in all the ways yeah it is the most fluid word it's unbelievable it's an incredible word in
terms of like its ability to be used on in it's almost like the word fuck right like you could
stub your toe and fuck or you could see a ferrari go fuck Yeah. Do you know in Brazilian, it's the word come they use for that?
Wait, what?
Yeah.
It's poha.
Poha.
Okay.
So like, you know, like someone will catch a guy in a choke and go, poha!
Like, that's a good thing.
Or you fuck up yourself.
You're like, ah, poha.
I forgot my keys.
In Spanish they say puta madre.
Yeah.
Which means like mother bitch.
But it's like, it could be a good thing. Puta madre Yeah Which means like Mother bitch But it's like
It could be a good thing
Puta madre
But that makes sense
Like mother bitch
God damn it
But come
Doesn't even make any sense
Like I was trying to
But the feeling of it
When you come
It's like
That is the sensation
Like that was so good
Watching you do that
Almost felt like me nutting
And it could be bad
In that like
Your dick tricked you
Into fucking this girl You've been trying to avoid And then you come And you're like Fuck That is felt like me nutting and it could be bad in that like your dick tricked you and the fuck in this
girl you've been trying to avoid and then you come and you're like that is there's regret what
everybody ever women will never understand post-nut syndrome i do not think post-nut syndrome
because this is something exclusive to us yes well like i don't know i like you until i come
yeah that's true right yeah yeah you do not know and it's and that's why
it's so fucked up like when you know women think we're fuck boys or pieces of shit as dudes it's
like you don't get it i think i like you right everything i'm saying to you i believe right and
my dick is just like yeah we're gonna find out you know what i mean we're gonna see and there
are times where you're not and it's, damn. Yeah. You realize you made a mistake, especially if the woman is really into you and you're
really not into her and you're like, oh, I made an error.
And then you do feel like an asshole.
Yeah.
But if you say that to them, they're like, yeah, I'm a fucking asshole.
I'm like, I'm just being honest with you.
Biology.
I got tricked by genetics.
Yeah.
Why can't that be my biology?
Why can't I feel?
So for women, let me explain what this is like.
Yeah.
You have this. It's like finding out your for women, let me explain what this is like. You have this.
It's like finding out your guy was poor.
This is what it's like.
This is how I describe it.
Having an erection and getting excited is like sitting in the backseat of a really long bus.
And there's some other guy up there driving the bus.
Most of the time, you're driving the bus.
Not when your dick is hard.
When your dick is hard, there's some other guy driving the bus.
And all the windows are rolled down.
There's papers flying around.
The horn's honking.
And you're looking at life taking place through a dirty windshield 100 feet away from you.
And you're like, do you even know where the fuck you're going?
We passed the stop.
And your dick's like, just shut the fuck up and calm down.
I got this.
Shut the fuck up and calm down.
I got this.
And then when you come, all of a sudden, the fog parts and you're at the front of the bus holding the wheel.
And you're like, what?
What am I doing here?
How did I get here?
Ah!
And you look down at your dick.
You motherfucker.
Bro, it's being a werewolf.
Yeah.
It is being a werewolf.
Right?
Like, isn't that what it's a metaphor for?
Oh, yeah.
You're this ravenous creature.
You're running around doing crazy shit.
And then you wake up in the morning naked.
You're like.
Terrified.
Covered in blood.
Yeah.
Well.
Fuck.
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
Yeah.
God damn it.
What did I do?
What did I do?
Well, I got to turn myself in.
Yeah.
It's terrible.
But that's one of the reasons why, you know, it's so hilarious when you see someone who is a stereotypical male feminist.
Because, you know, they barely have enough testosterone to keep their heart beating.
And they probably don't get post-nut syndrome because they just want everyone to love them.
Yeah.
And they're in this weird state of, you know, Benedict Arnold.
They're being a gender traitor.
I mean, that's really what's going on.
It's a lot of what it is
There are men that want women to be
Valued
Try to get pussy man
That's what they do
It's a hustle
There's men that want women
To have all the same
All the same opportunities
Right
Equality
And they want
They want to value them as human beings
And that's all real
That is real
But
There's way more Sne sneaky weak fucks that are
pretending they think like this because they know that women go good good you're on our side you're
an ally come over here ally yeah you're a male ally and they're always these like weaselly little
dudes with tiny hands and even if they're big they, they're awkward, and they've had a hard time with women.
And so they just shit on these men who they feel they're in competition with.
It's a complete hater move.
Absolutely.
You see it in everything.
You see it in comedy.
It's like, oh, I can't do that type of comedy, so I'm going to make that comedy radioactive
so that this is the only type of comedy that's allowed.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Hey, that this is the only type of comedy that's allowed yeah you know what i'm saying hey that comedy is so for example like it doesn't have to be comedy it could really be any kind of situation it's like you're just trying to carve out the market share right like oh that comedy's
dirty that's edgy that's sexist that's bigoted censor it censor it all that saying is i don't
want to compete with pussy with with those guys it's a little bit of that, but it's also like the same thing you see with the right versus the left.
There's a lot of people
online from each side
that want to censor the opinions of the other
people. For sure. Instead of having a better opinion.
Yeah, that's a power grab. They want to shut that opinion off.
Exactly. And when they don't
have a better opinion, they just make
you radioactive so they don't even have to talk to you.
You're racist. Hey, Joe Rogan,
you're racist. What do you mean? Let's talk about it. You're like, I don't even have to talk to you yeah you're racist yeah hey joe rogan you're racist you're like what do you mean let's talk about you're like i don't talk to races yeah
oh that was clever what you did yeah you see what i'm saying like i went through that like the second
i had an opinion that went against the grain immediately i'm labeled as something that they
don't even have to have a dialogue with right they just shut you down boom yeah oh you're a
white supremacist exactly oh you're alt-right yes oh. Oh, you're this. You're that. Yeah. It's a simple, weak way to end a conversation.
But all it does is it only works.
It's like a magic trick.
It only works if you don't know what they're trying to do.
So what percentage of the population knows it, right?
That's the question I've been trying to wrap my head around is like like you and i can sit here and and see this all day but i think most people are seeking
confirmation not information right i think most people like they start out their day going i feel
this way it could be right left central it doesn't matter and then they're seeking out information
that confirms that right you know what there's a parallel to that with what we were talking about
with stand-up comedy in your career because the reason why those people seek out confirmation
rather than information is because they're insecure they're not at a good place yes but
once you're in a good place like everything feels good like say if you're in a good relationship
and you know you have a good woman in your life and you're happy and everything's going well
then you see a lot of things for what they
are versus if you're in the hunt you're trying to get people to love you you know what i mean
you don't have any excess it's like i mean this is a weird like segue to it but like i i tried
molly i've never did a lot of drugs but i tried molly at burning man right and um it was the first
time that i experienced maybe outside of like comedy,
but first time I experienced having like extra love.
Yeah.
Right?
So instead of operating on a deficit and like trying to make you laugh,
so I filled a void,
or like trying to say something interesting,
so I filled a void,
I had extra.
And what I did with the extra,
without even realizing it,
is I called my closest friends and my parents,
and I just told them how special they were.
Now, I didn't realize that until years later that that's what you do with excess.
Yeah.
Right?
So how do I get to excess without drugs, right?
The question for me was also how do I find fulfillment in shit that is not in other people's hands?
So much, like when we were talking to the comedy store,
like what I fucking love about the LA scene right now is that comics have control of it, right?
So it's like comics are pushing the comedy culture right now
and it's because they're empowered.
You guys have money.
You guys have sustainability with your fans.
You're not going,
am I going to get another pilot with Comedy Central?
Am I going to get-
That's how it used to be here.
Of course.
When the industry ran it, comedy sucked.
You guys are talking about fucking unicycles and shit, right?
And that's why, no, it's true.
And look, we would come out from New York and we would come out and we'd be kind of disillusioned with the comedy scene back here.
And maybe that was like some New York, West Coast, East Coast beef or whatever.
C-scopes, beef or whatever.
But what's funny is how the ecosystem always balances itself.
Because as soft as comedy was out here, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, this show called Roast Battle pops up.
Right?
This is the hardest show.
The hardest show.
Bro.
Like, wild.
It's so wild.
Insane.
But here's a perfect example.
Comedy Central took that and they half-watered it.
Of course. They cut it like they would sell cocaine.
Yeah.
Right.
You're not getting a pure.
No.
You're not getting it from Columbia.
Not even remotely.
They took all the juicy stuff out.
Took the authenticity right out.
But it was real for a minute.
You can go there still on Tuesday night and that place gets fucking wild.
I get sad.
What do you mean?
I feel sad for some people that get toasted up there.
I saw a joke
There was some kid
Who's not retarded
But what is it?
Cerebral palsy
Yeah yeah
And
And he's up there
With his palsy
And the other guy goes
He goes
He goes
You look like your arms
Drew your legs
Oh
Jesus Christ
Bro
I fucking howled
Dude
We were fucking He's up there Fucking shaking So fucked up You know what I mean? Oh my god Oh, Jesus Christ. Bro, I fucking howled, dude.
We were fucking, he's up there fucking shaking.
It's so fucked up. You know what I mean?
Oh, my God.
He said, it looks like someone put your body in a blender.
No, it looks like someone put your voodoo doll in a blender.
Oh, my God.
Bro, it was so ruthless, but that's what it needed to balance the system.
Right?
Well, it definitely helped.
You know, there's a bunch of factors, but what roast battles, first of all,
there's
good things and bad things
about, first of all, Brian Moses,
the guy who hosts it, is one of the nicest guys on the
planet Earth, and that helps.
And then also he says, you know,
never gets physical, at the end we all hug.
Like, there's good in that.
Of course. You know, and then when people
go after each other, like, there's a guilty pleasure to it that doesn't exist anymore. It's like there's good in that. Of course. You know, and then when people go after each other, like, there's a guilty pleasure to it that doesn't exist anymore.
It's like there's a guilty pleasure to that kind of humor.
It's very hard to get.
If you're a fan of that kind of fucking vicious, awful comedy, it's very difficult to get anymore because people don't roast each other anymore.
No, they're afraid.
Yeah, they're afraid.
And they're soft.
Like, these kids are soft, man and it's we gotta stop blaming kids we just gotta start
blaming parents like my parents were hard maybe my mom's an immigrant maybe that's what it is
she's scottish but like my parents were tough like my mom let me punch my brother in the face once
because he like pulled my backpack or something like i remember like he like pulled my back i
was like mom he pulled my backpack can i just punch him she's like once she just let me punch him right and it was
like for her when she grew up that's what brothers did yeah and like people always do you know i know
you have some guys come on the show and they talk about how like it's happening at the college level
like we're entitling these kids it's like no it's happening in elementary school
it's when these kids what happened my boy marco pointed this out to me both his parents are
teachers in rhode island he's like what happens is these these fucking kids complain about their
teacher in school right and when you and i were in school our parents would go well yeah sometimes
your teacher don't like you so figure it out yeah and now these kids go well mom dad
the teacher doesn't like me well let's switch you out of this school let's switch your teacher
let's get your teacher fired so they start thinking the world bends around them right yeah
and then now this shit with the colleges it's like i can't get into usc he's like oh don't worry we'll
figure out how to get you into usc that that college thing is nuts. But we'll get to that.
But I want to know,
what do you think is the root of the softness?
Like, what is the shift?
Why?
What's the shift?
I know exactly what it is.
You know when power is taken,
it's not given, it's taken.
You have to take it.
You have to rip it out of somebody's fucking hands power, right? Yeah, and
After you take power out of someone's hands, that's the last thing you take
It's give right if you have the right constitution, you have the right constitution for power. What have you done with your power?
you've
Uplifted a comedy scene
You've you do these shows or you host them at the improv right that's not
for you right that's for comedy okay you're hosting shows at these different places you
can sell out arenas but you're choosing to do shows in this city i'm assuming because you
understand the value of giving you're operating with excess in your heart a little bit of that
but honestly the shows are for me to work out yeah to work out but you could do an hour you
don't have to put other comics on it. Yeah, that's true.
You don't have to say,
Schultz, can you come and do the show tonight?
You know what I mean?
At the Improv on Hollywood.
Yeah, which is sold out.
I already sold out.
I was about to try to help promote,
and I was like,
does he need me to help?
But it's like,
so what happens is,
if you have the right constitution for power,
you take,
and then you provide for your people.
You give back.
It certainly helps.
It helps you.
Dude, people don't realize like how helping is addictive?
Yeah, that's we can get to that in a little bit. But like once you realize the value you get from giving
As long as it's the right person. Yeah, then you just can't wait. Yeah
It's a truck and think that you should keep it all to yourself because when you keep it all yourself you feel like shit
Yeah, you're a piece of shit
Then you become that weird old miser
that lives in the mansion
on the top of the hill
and no one can talk to him
and you're miserable
yeah and you can't go anywhere
no it sucks
and everybody looks at you
like oh it's that guy
he's got all that money
I gotta figure out
how to get his money
who do you want to be
you want to be Ali
yeah
Ali walks around
any neighborhood he wants
well I mean he's dead
but when he did
no security
now he can knock anybody out
but at the same time
if he just goes hey guys give me a second i knew when he was older and he could
barely walk he would just go everywhere anywhere you want people loved him because they recognize
man we want to follow but we want to follow the worthy so we'll test worthiness yeah you know
what i'm saying so what happened why these kids are so soft is the king takes power and then raises a bitch ass son because
he never had to take shit.
Right.
Right?
And he doesn't want his son to go through what he went through.
Right?
He's like, you know how hard it was to take this power?
I got one foot.
You know what I mean?
I lost a foot in a power struggle.
And now this son, everything's given to him.
It's like the spoiled prince in every movie.
You hate that fucking prince.
So I think the generation that's raising kids right now spoiled princes the generation before that vietnam right
you know i'm saying like they understood sacrifice war yeah they understood the investment in the
country and then the generation that came next was just handed shit yeah hey everything's good
we're not oh we're not going to oh war is just handled over there I don't got to get drafted Yes
It's like
No I almost think
We should all be part of it bro
It's like a regret of mine
That I didn't
Do some sort of service
Because
It's like
How you complain at all
About the country
That you didn't put your life
On the line for
There's a lot of countries
That have mandatory service
Yeah
And they have extreme levels
Of patriotism
And It's investment Yeah Like South Korea For example that have mandatory service and they have extreme levels of patriotism.
It's infestment.
Yeah, like South Korea,
for example,
they took Dong Young Kim.
Was it?
Yeah.
No.
Who was it?
Sansun Jung.
That's who it was.
The Korean zombie.
That's right.
That's right.
He took him out of his prime and he had to do two years of service
In the Korean army
David Robinson
Basketball player
Had to do that in Navy time
Really?
Yo
Yeah
Like you understand
Because we're so detached
And I don't hate on people
For not realizing it
Because we are detached
It's what we do
Like little
You know
Some child slaves
Make the iPhone
And you know
We're like
I just go
You can only really be connected
to what's in your world direct world i'm cool that's life it is what it is there's really no
good or bad things just are you know what i mean so it's like that's something to get to but it is
what it is right they were trying to do an ethical phone remember that phone what was that phone
called again they were they were they were putting together some ethical android phone man come on fair phone yeah it wasn't fair nobody bought it
fuck that shit was expensive i don't think it's more expensive they have a fair phone too pull
that bitch up let's see what we got let's see if it could fuck with i'm trying to get off the apple
tit i told you i got this galaxy note you're gonna come back bro look how big that don't
you're gonna come back bro look how beautiful Look how big that is. Don't say that, bro. You're going to come back, bro.
Look how beautiful that screen is.
Look at this.
Oh, swipe up.
Yeah, but that shit is.
Look at everything.
It's always freezing.
The picture's all pixelated and shit.
No, that's not true.
That's not true.
Come on, bro.
I got a pen.
This has a pen.
A modular phone that's built to last.
What does that mean?
That you can attach it to it?
A modular phone that's built to last.
Oh, yeah.
So you could add little things. Oh, that's built to last oh yeah so you could add little things yeah oh that's gonna break definitely that can't be waterproof it says batteries are those batteries
you can replace the battery yeah that's ridiculous remember when you used to be able to replace
batteries you should pop out the back of your phone batteries i had a samsung galaxy like seven
or some shit remove Remove a little battery.
Android 7. This motherfucker's
got Android 9.
You need to catch the fuck up.
What else? Fair materials?
Look, there's a white lady in the front.
How fair? Three black guys
who are working for her. What the fuck is fair
about that picture? If you're going to have fair
materials, how about you have white
guys in their 50s working in a factory and not Chinese babies?
Yo.
Right?
What the fuck is this?
We do have to acknowledge, though, that like.
Do you know what I mean?
Yo.
I mean, make it fair.
Make all these people who want to buy iPhones and you want to have your iPhone built by some Asian slave.
How about you work for a year
in a factory?
It's like the army.
You want an iPhone?
Put the time in.
Right.
But we should acknowledge that white women really kind of are superheroes in that way.
White women?
Yeah.
How so?
Because they're the only people who care about the environment.
They're the only people who care about animals.
The only people who build wells in Africa.
No.
My friend Justin Wren builds wells in the Congo.
He's a Six foot three
Tranny
He's a
He's a Bellator
Fucking top ten heavyweight
Ask him
Who's
Who are people helping him
It's Rebecca
Katie
No no no
Phyllis
No no no
Phyllis might be too old
He's got a lot of women
That do work for him
But a lot of men
That work for him too
White women love this shit bro
White women
They fucking
They're getting it hard right now Cause I think they're tired of coming at white men so they're looking for the
next you know when the grease is boiling you gotta throw someone in it but like when you
want to talk about humanitarians right like who gets fucked by more races than white women true
like this is really true true except who gets the short end of the stick there?
Is that a penis-sized joke?
No.
Asian women.
No, I'm joking.
I was saying Asian men.
Asian men probably fuck the smallest percentage of different races.
Right.
Yes.
In America, at least.
Yes.
I don't know how they rock it in other countries.
100%.
Yeah, yeah.
They do the-
Yeah, I think they have some Tinder.
They did some Tinder study That showed that
That is a weird thing
Yeah
Cause to Asian women
No problem at all
But to other
Ethnicities
It's weird that it's not
Made to size
Right
How so
Like
Like you would think
That it's made to size
Like Lego
Like little tiny women
Would be into
No just like vagina
Would be like
You know
I've never
I've never felt that like Asian pussy was that much smaller than like black pussy.
I've done research, you know, I have empirical evidence, you know.
Yeah.
Well, you know, this doesn't make 100% sense.
Okay.
But I've met girls that were tiny that you could not fuck hard enough.
Yeah.
And I'm like, okay.
They just open up.
Yeah.
But not just that.
It's just like they want it like that.
They want savage.
They want to get fucking smashed.
Why do you think that is?
Because I think they realize that they're tiny.
They have small genes.
So they want to get savage genetics inside them so they have survivor children.
I really believe that.
I think it only makes sense.
Some of the horniest girls I've ever dated in my life
weigh about 104 pounds.
And these big brand of tarts chicks want it real soft?
No, they want to fuck you up too.
Because they know that those other little girls
are fucking giant dudes
and they're going to make a normal-sized kid
and they're going to keep going.
It's a never-ending battle for genetics. Dude, it really is fucked. Oh going to keep going. It's a never ending battle for genetics.
Dude, it really, it is fucked.
Oh, it's 100%.
It's a never ending battle of genetics.
So then why are these girls fucking these like beta dudes, man?
They're not.
That's a thing.
They do it for a little while.
They barely fuck them.
They always say they have headaches.
Listen, I know a lot of beta dudes.
Who has headaches?
The dudes have headaches?
The girl does.
Like, I can't.
I have a headache.
I go to sleep.
Yeah.
They don't want to fuck the guys.
Dude, I had a friend of mine who was dating a guy like that.
Right.
And she goes, I really like him.
I just do not want to fuck him.
Yeah.
I was like, wow.
Because why would you?
I was like, that is rough.
Yeah, but why would you?
I'm like, what are you going to do?
Just don't fuck him.
Dude, it's insane, man.
It's like, I see this all the time.
Like, these, like, hardcore, perceivably hardcore feminist chicks.
Yeah.
You know, they'll hear my comedy, which could be the opposite of that.
Right.
And they're in the DMs.
Right.
Saying, I don't know why I'm here.
I swear to God.
I swear to God, bro.
Like it's a trap house.
Exactly.
It's like, dude, what is happening?
It's like.
Because I think feminism in general is a direct result of a failure by men to be fair and
by a failure by men to be actual men and to raise actual men who treat everybody with
respect.
When men are abusing women, men are bullies they're they're
weak men the kind of man that would do that to a woman that would like physically abuse a woman
that's a weak man right right that's the type of man that would beat up a smaller man or take
someone from someone with force it's insecure he needs to feel powerful he's a bitch yeah he's a
bitch right the the antidote for that is to be a strong man.
Right.
Like, one of the things I've been telling people, like, this is how you fix bullying
in school.
Okay.
Teach them how to fight.
Not the bullies.
I mean, not just the victims, but the bullies themselves.
Teach everyone how to fight.
When they feel confidence that they can defend themselves, they don't have to.
You know what's the nicest fucking people in the world?
Yeah.
Martial artists.
You go and go to martial arts gyms.
Go to a jiu-jitsu gym.
I'll take you.
They're the fucking nicest people.
Everybody's hugging everybody and friendly.
And they're going to choke each other half to death in about five minutes.
And before that, they're all fun, happy, playful.
They're so secure.
And outside of there, they're so secure and relaxed.
They're a different type of person.
Obviously, not all of them.
I mean, there's people who are weird. For the most part yeah we vary wildly right but almost always to a human the mean ones whether
it's mean women or mean when men are weak yeah they're weak the mean women women will tell you
this yes they work at an office yeah and they've got a female boss that's a cunt yeah that is one
of the worst fucking because you can't even fuck her.
There's nothing you can do.
Nothing you can do to make that bitch happy.
She wants to take from you.
She wants to squeeze your blood.
At least if you're cute and your boss is disgusting
and he's a fucking asshole,
you could flirt with him a little bit
and you could maybe get him to like you more.
Don't do it.
Obviously don't do that. But with a female boss, you have to have a personality you can't do shit shocking
what the female boss not even that a lot of women don't like women right one of the things that i
love more than anything yeah is when i talk to women and they'll do this thing where they look
around to make sure no one's looking no one's around and i go look i would never say this
publicly but some bitches are fucking crazy.
That's what we do with like racist shit.
Didn't Burr have that bit about like,
you look around and then you slide in.
The thing about these.
Yes.
Well, women feel like they've got momentum
in this little war of ideas
with the Me Too movement
and Bill Cosby getting arrested
and r kelly getting arrested harvey weinstein in my opinion and i bet you think this too
these are good things yeah when shitty men get put away or they get arrested yeah for abusing people
whether it's they're physically abusing men or physically abusing women it's always good you
shouldn't be physically abusing get them out of here yeah we used to beat those guys up yes i mean this is handled in the
community when we were younger teenagers hey blah blah you know was rough with this whatever who was
rough right and we went over there imagine if you were married and harvey weinstein tried to fuck
your wife and she went in on an audition and you knew that there was all these security guards and
all these fucking levels before you got to him.
And your wife got into that level and he was treating her like shit and being mean to her and telling her if you want to work in this town, you got to suck this little fat dick.
You'd be very, very, very angry.
I'm shocked.
Didn't Brad Pitt try to step to him or something like that?
He did step to him.
And did he swing on him?
I don't know what he did.
Because you got to. Right? Brad Pitt tried to step to him Or something like that He did step to him And did he swing on him I don't know what he did Cause you gotta Threaten him
Right like
Well that's the other thing
That's fucked up about this
Is like
There's gonna be wine scenes
Yeah
Like these people are gonna exist
Well listen man
They still exist
Yeah they still do
I was hearing about one last night
Someone was
I can't tell you
Comic
Cause I don't
Wait he's a
Television personality
Who's apparently
A closeted homosexual
Oh and he's out there, and he's out there.
Yeah, and he's out there.
With dudes.
Yeah, just going hard.
Fucking him more.
I don't know.
He's trying.
Really?
He's trying and making him uncomfortable.
Really?
Really.
How well known?
I don't know.
Bullshit.
We'll talk later.
We'll talk later.
But what I'm saying is they exist.
You want to tell me so bad?
They exist.
We've got to go talk to him afterwards There's crazy fuckers out there
That are still rolling at old school
Yeah
They want to get caught
Gwyneth Paltrow
Brad Pitt threatened to kill Harvey Weinstein
Yeah but you gotta swing on him
That's my man
But you gotta swing on him bro
I believe it
You gotta leave some marks
I believe it
So
Well it depends on what Harvey did
Versus
If he grabbed her
And did anything to her physically
Then you gotta swing on him But if he grabbed her and did anything to her physically, then you got to swing on him.
But if he just said something creepy and you tell him, I will take your fucking life.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll take your life.
Well, I think the issue with these things is like, we know we're going to have Weinsteins, but the people that protected Weinstein, like the second you complain about a guy For groping Or doing something crazy
Right
That woman is doing
Exactly what she's supposed to do
Right
She experienced some
You know sexual assault
And she's telling
Yeah
Right
Now if you silence her
And shut her up
That's where the system
Falls apart
Right right right
So whoever is protecting him
Throughout
They gotta go too
Right
Because that woman
Did exactly what she was
Supposed to do
Right There's gonna be Weinsteins Throughout life Unfortunately That's the real question They got to go too Right Because that woman did exactly what she was supposed to do Right
There's going to be Weinsteins
Throughout life unfortunately
That's the real question
What about the support staff?
How many people?
All them are almost
They're not worse because they're not doing it
But they're so bad because
They stripped the person who was assaulted
From
Like not only equality
But like they stripped her from From life in a way like they made that
person go oh shit life isn't fair and i don't have a shot do you know the expression diffusion
of responsibility it's it comes when there's large groups of people that watch something
they feel like someone's gonna step in it's like that lady uh genovese's or something remember that
there was some woman who was getting raped in queens and she was screaming for like 40 minutes and there
was all these neighbors around like yeah i heard it but i thought ted was on it oh jesus you didn't
hear about this no i think katie genovese's or some shit it's an old story but yeah everybody's
like oh they'll get it yeah it's the same kind of thing it's like well it's just how corporations
work so if you're working for a corporation the corporation's dumping pollutants into the river you know you feel like well it's not my responsibility
i just work here in accounting right you know like somebody else is going to handle this right
you know this is and i think when you if you're working in like the weinstein company and you
knew harvey was out there slinging dick first of all in in their defense you probably didn't know the specifics
right because it's like oh harvey's a dog he's always out there trying to fuck yeah well that's
sort of normal yeah like a lot like people have to understand this why does a guy like that get
rich why does he get rich is he like some patron of the arts who loves creating maybe there's a little bit
maybe he likes power yes you like power why do you like that power what do you get now that power
once you have a ferrari once you have a mercedes once you have a mansion what are you getting
you're getting pussy baby that's what you're getting you're getting pussy so it's not even
about the pussy right it's about power right it's about power so much of this shit like even
these pedophiles
I don't even believe
Anybody's attracted to kids
Well they definitely are
I don't believe it
I believe they're attracted
To power
And they're so wildly insecure
That they need to be looked at
Like a god
And children
When they look at you
Somebody that they admire
Something they truly look up to
Etc
They can look at you
In that godlike state
And
So I don't think it's a physical thing.
Like I was watching that Abducted in Plain Sight.
He gets whacked off by the dad, right?
What?
You didn't see this Abducted in Plain Sight, bro?
Oh, my God.
Bro, this pedophile destroys a whole family, bro.
Oh, Jesus.
To get to the daughter, he fucks the mom and dad.
What is this?
This is insane. Is this on netflix yes you've never
and they censor comedy imagine that imagine jokes well they don't censor comedy though who knows
they don't they haven't censored mine not you know what i'm saying there might be but it's like
and we're the bad guys essentially but like my point point is- That is a crazy story. It's the dynamic of power.
People say the Catholic Church makes these people pedophiles.
No.
They have that thirst for power, and they're going, who in my community has that amazing
power where they're looking at him as this godlike figure?
Oh, it was the priest at our Catholic Church.
That sounds like an evil choice let me
give you an alternative perspective from psychologists okay there's a thing called
imprinting that happens with young men in particular sexually it happens with young
women as well but one of the things that can happen is young men can be sexually molested
by other men when they're young and they develop this imprinting the the vast majority of people
who are abusers were abused themselves right and there's some horrible hijacking of the psychology
of the person when you're a six-year-old boy and some grown man has cock in your ass there's
there's something about that that it fucks with their head especially if it happens a lot and it
becomes a part of your
life and the guy's nice to you as well and buys you things and does things for you and then you
get older and you for whatever reason perpetrate this same horror on other kids this is something
that happens what is i don't know what i think it's maybe maybe it's a combination of both right
maybe you have that imprinting, right?
And then it creates this massive void that you need filled.
Like, I think so much of everything that we do, everything that people do is about filling
the void.
And what is it that you need the void filled with dictates how often, if you're evil, sometimes
if you're good.
There are some people that are addicted to working out, right?
There's a void there.
They need it filled.
Some people are addicted to eating.
Those are the same addiction, essentially, but one is a lot better to have than the other.
You know, it's like even with, I mean, even with Kanye, right?
as like this guy who's just wildly insecure and he's trying to justify his coolness constantly by taking things that are not cool at all and making them cool within a community within his
community right so it's like everything kanye does like down to like it started with like the wasp
culture i'm gonna take like preppy new england you know polos that are pink and shit and i'm gonna make that cool now before the hip-hop community i mean i grew up in new york
we were like yo that's some gay shit bro what the fuck is that now kanye wears is like nah you gotta
look fly in this these pink waspy things in my khakis whatever then he takes grunge culture
right this fuck have you seen the right the rip sweaters and all that kind of shit that's seattle
nirvana shit but he's like yo i bet i'm so cool i can make it cool right then he takes dad sneakers i'm so cool i could you know you think my community
loves cool sneakers i'm gonna make dad sneakers cool and then what is the most uncool thing to
his community what trump yeah and what does he try to make cool? It's selfish. It's all about him.
All he cares is about proving that he's that dude.
And he takes the most uncool thing and puts it on his head.
And he's like, yo, I'm going to make MAGA cool.
And that's when people are like, at least his community was like, nah, we're not going to play with that shit.
You know what I think?
I think, you know how like you have something that's supposed to take, like, eight volts?
You have, like, a charger.
Yeah.
It's supposed to take, like, eight volts.
Like when you go to Europe and you plug your shit in?
Yeah.
Right.
Well, like, when you plug something to the wall, like, we have alternating current.
Like, you could have something that takes way more amperage.
Right.
I think Kanye has the wrong plug to the universe.
And in a good way.
Okay.
With that motherfucker's getting, like, a hundred volts all the time. Yeah. So he wants to deal. You ever a good way. Okay. Where that motherfucker's getting like 100 volts
all the time.
Yeah.
So he wants to deal,
you ever talk to him?
No.
I talked to him on the phone
and it was a stream
of consciousness
that was so intense.
I was like,
okay,
now I get it.
I kind of go,
we had a long conversation.
He's a very nice guy.
Yeah.
We had a long conversation
for like 15,
20 minutes on the phone,
which is a long conversation
these days on the phone. Yeah. Who the fuck talks on the phone anymore he does yeah but you're at i think he's getting a
hundred volts bro okay he's got design going through his head and new song lyrics and new
fashion and all this and i think he's just catching whatever he can and holding on to it and waiting
through the waves to fill
though yeah but i don't know to fill there's a little bit of that but uh with him it's almost
like affirming that he's okay because he's so much different than everybody else like elon musk like
a lot of other people sure what's up did the uh when he used the confederate flag do you know
about his statements on that he he said that. He used this in a quote.
What does he say?
Oh, react how you want.
Any energy is good energy.
The Confederate flag represented slavery in a way.
That's my abstract take on what I know about it, right?
So I wrote this song, New Slaves, to look at the Confederate flag and made it my flag.
It's my flag now.
What are you going to do?
Now what are you going to do?
Right?
How can I take my equity and see if I'm so dope?
But that's also his recognition that you can take something like the N-word and use it as a positive.
You could do anything.
I mean, look, if black people really decide – I used to do this bit.
Okay, go.
I used to do this bit about – do you remember when the fucking duck dynasty guy
was he was talking a lot of shit about gay people was like i don't understand it i don't understand
and i was like look i don't understand yellow cars i go what the fuck is this shit if you
understand it why are you wasting all your time yeah you better be nice because i go if you keep
fucking with gay people they're gonna do something they're going to do something and you're not going to be able to take it back.
Like, what if gay people decided to take over camo?
And the bit was like, look what they did to the rainbow.
I go, they fucking own the rainbow.
I go, you can't wear a rainbow shirt anymore.
Everybody's like, bah.
It used to be leprechauns and pots of gold.
Now it's dudes butt fucking.
I go, all they would have to do
is start off every gay porn
in a duck blind.
It's two dudes,
two dudes in camo.
Dick dynasty.
And you get the gayest black guy
in the world in camos.
Like something about duck hunting
make me horny.
Yeah.
And some dude just drops in
out of nowhere
and pulls his camo down
and starts sucking his dick. If they just had all porno in camo, that's of nowhere and pulls his camo down, starts sucking his dick,
if they just had all porno in camo,
it would turn camo into a gay thing.
And if black people just went whole hog on the Confederate fight,
look at them.
They got a camo wallpaper sign.
Absolutely.
That's like some Annie Leibovitz shit, though.
That's like some Vanity Fair cover nonsense.
You know, that's like some organized shoot.
Very meta. Those are weird. They know what they're doing, though. These guys are smart. By the way, that's like some vanity fair cover nonsense oh you know that's like some organized shoot very meta those are weird they know what they're doing though these guys are smart they're by the way
that's a shit pattern that's a bad camel pattern all ducks is it ducks maybe it's theirs it might
be their pattern yeah i bet it is well you're in a swamp it's like i don't know you know the gay
shit is like you know it's just it's not the climate for it. I feel.
Yo, it could be.
Don't you remember Deliverance?
Yeah, but it's like.
Squeal like a pig?
Yes.
Remember that?
Yeah, but that was, that was rape.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gay rape though.
It was gay rape.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everybody who says that rape is not sex, it's about power.
Well, then they didn't do it right.
They also didn't get raped.
Someone's going to fuck you man you're getting fucked
like this ain't sex bro just so we're clear bro that guy is fucking you this is about sex and
power i get it you're not gay but it's still sex people want it man that's the thing i don't know
i think the kanye thing like he's just a guy
who thinks way different like for whatever reasons the connections that's one of the reasons why i
think this kim kardashian relationship works so well okay it's because like i bet she just handles
normal regular stuff and he could just be kanye you know what? Like, it seems like they're- Does he think that different, bro?
People balance-
Yes.
How different, bro?
Yes.
Different.
How?
Different.
You tell me.
Convince me, because the music is phenomenal.
Outside of that-
Okay, it's real simple.
Yeah.
Have you ever been locked up in a mental institution?
No.
He has.
Yeah.
They don't just lock you up, bro.
They never lock me up.
Yeah.
You know, my wife never-
I never came home.
My wife has some fucking two gorillas that are in those lab suits that are
staring at me I'm like what's with the big guys big guys gonna take you to a
nice hospital like sir we'd like to handle this quietly what yeah the fuck
I'm not going to some hospital you don't just go to the mental institute, bro.
They fucking, they Velcro you.
But the mental institute doesn't mean that you're genius.
There's a lot of crazy people who are just crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, he's definitely crazy.
Sure.
But he's also, but he's brilliant too. See, the work that comes out of that crazy is genius work, right?
So what is it about him that allows him to be so prolific
as an artist? You ever notice how prolific he is?
Yes. The guy's constantly working. At music.
Constantly banging out songs.
He doesn't have bad
albums. No. He is
phenomenal at music, without a doubt.
Phenomenal at music. But this is all
from this energy that's inside of him.
He figures out how to channel that energy
and put it in good ways, but occasionally it's not also it's also not a coincidence it's not a coincidence that when
kanye was on stage i think it was in san jose yeah and he said that he didn't vote but if he was
going to vote he would have voted for trump and the crowd went crazy and they booed the shit out
of him and then he canceled his tour and then he went to the mental health institute right all that
shit happened together because he felt the pain of this then his response to that was to double down
his response to that was to attribute qualities to trump that he doesn't even really have right
and so trump in his so in a lot of ways very wise the way he handles things socially he let kanye
come into the white house yeah where that mag hat, and just rant up a storm.
So Kanye could define who Trump was.
He could define what loving Trump meant.
He could define why black people should embrace Trump.
He could define all this in his head to sort of justify what went wrong with him.
And then Trump just sits there and goes like this and lets him talk.
And then he leaves, and Trump goes, what the fuck was that about?
And he gets on the phone, calls his bitches, orders a pizza, gets his dick sucked.
And this shit right here.
That's what this is.
Now, look at that white lady with her arms crossed in the background.
Like, what is happening?
What in the fuck?
I need to make a well.
Like, what the fuck am I watching?
Look at her face.
Look at the blonde chick right there in the center.
Look at her face.
She's like, okay, what?
Her face says,
okay, what?
And Kanye's like showing Donald Trump
his phone. Donald Trump's got his lips
pursed. Phone.
Look at Kushner. Show me some lyrics.
Look at a devious smile on Kushner's face
right there, dude.
How about that dude? How about the black dude sitting there
like, I can't believe I have to listen to this shit.
Look at that dude's face.
He's like, what in the fuck do I do when I get fired from here?
Because I know it's coming.
I know it's coming.
Oh, God.
How about the dude in the back with the beard?
Look at the brother in the back.
He's like, man.
Nah, he's fucking up.
You got to be fucking shitting me
ryan gosling with the boom mic oh look at that guy yes maga all the way he's like we made it i
can't wait to get on gab and talk about this amazing meeting of the minds look at his face
has who trump reached out to you no i'm friends with his son though like text friends really yeah
he's a nice guy He's a hunter
We know each other through
Mutual friends
And one of our mutual friends
Who committed suicide
Oh shit
So I was like
You know
But he's a nice guy
I mean
I don't agree with
A lot of things
That a lot of people
That I know
Agree with
Yeah
I think
I think we're allowed
To be reasonable
And cordial with each other
Yes
What's the matter?
What are you laughing at?
What is it?
Jim Brown was also sitting at that table.
Oh, Jim Brown!
Legend!
That's Jim Brown!
Look at him!
You know, Jim Brown used to do the early commentary for the UFC.
Really?
Yeah, man.
He used to wear one of them Africa hats.
Those traditional Africa hats.
Yeah, he did my job For the UFC Like UFC like
One and two
Is he MMA savvy
No he's just
A dude who knows
How to fuck people up
That's true
He's Jim Brown man
Yeah there was this
Yeah there
Look at him
Now the guy on his left
Our left
To our left
Is Bill Superfoot Wallace
Okay
That's a world champion
Kickboxer from the 80's
He's a legend
In the kickboxing world
There he is
Jim Brown I just
started uh uh taking a couple kickboxing yeah classes trying to learn you got a good frame for
it yeah I used to box right so it's like the the most hum first of all it's nice to have something
to like want to get better at that has nothing to do with career sure that's really fun you know
but uh the the interesting thing about the kicking aspect of it
is uh when i when i would see guys learning how to box like the hook is a tough punch for people
to get right because it's something you almost have to kind of like pop right and people try
to throw it instead of let your body throw it and that's who i am with kicks i feel the like the
exact same person i've been trying to teach how to throw.
It's just my body doesn't want to let the legs go.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I'm not whipping.
Yeah.
You know?
I can help you.
Yeah, yeah.
I used to teach.
Yeah, I see that you do a lot of.
I could definitely help you with that.
Yeah, you know what the thing, the way to do it is?
You do it slow.
Right.
Yeah, you do it slow and you don't try to hit with that. Yeah. You know what the way to do it is? You do it slow. Right. Yeah.
You do it slow and you don't try to hit anything hard.
Yeah.
When you try to hit things hard, then you tense up and you like fucking.
Yeah.
Everything's all herky-jerky and goofy.
Yeah.
The key to learning how to kick is to do it slow.
Slow.
It's a big part of it.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
You don't try to smash.
You just try to like get your torque right.
Right.
You learn your body right.
Make sure you're pivoting
Off your bottom foot
You know
The support foot
Has to pivot
Almost with every kick
Basically yeah
With every kick
Your support foot pivots
Support one is the one
That I'm stepping out with
The one that's standing on
Yeah
The one you're standing on
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
That standing foot
Has to constantly pivot
It has to go
You have to be
You have to be planted
Right
But you also have to be able
To move with it
It's like a coordinated dance.
Yes.
That's why timing in kicks is so difficult because you've got to time it,
and then you've got to twist your body in at the same time.
But everything's got to work in coordination.
It's got to work in concert.
It's such a cool – I think kickboxing's got to be the worst marketed sport in the world.
I know.
That's what I say.
Do you?
It's the greatest sport to me. It's the fucking best. It's like what we want That's what I say. Do you? It's the greatest sport, to me,
for stand-up fighting.
It's the best. There's a company called
Glory. That's the
Japanese one? No, no, no. They're American.
I'm sorry. From the Netherlands?
I think they're from Holland.
Find out where they're from. But they're
international. They do a lot of events here in America.
But they're on UFC Fight Pass
and I think they're on ESPN too
The headquarters are in Singapore
Singapore? Oh that's interesting
That's new
They might have got bought out
Some of the best fucking fights
You'll ever watch in your life
I have in my studio
In my gym I have Apple TV
And I'll watch Glory
It's like an app on the UFC Fight Pass.
Okay.
And I'll watch it.
And some fucking amazing fights.
So why can't they market it?
Most people don't know.
Because Dana White has a really good point.
In the 1980s, where that Bill Superfoot Wallace guy was fighting, he was actually before that.
He was in the late 70s and then into the 80s.
There was a thing called PKA Karka karate and it was on espn and
it was terrible and it was uh kickboxers who were basically like not the best kickers and not the
best boxers and then it was like kind of goofy and clunky there's a few guys like rick the jet
rufus and some really popular guys who were really good that were also doing it at the same time.
But for the most part, it was just terrible to watch.
It was boring as fuck.
And then you'd watch boxing, you'd see Mike Tyson at the same time.
So Mike Tyson's on TV, Marvin Hagler's on TV,
and you're watching these guys, and these guys are out of shape.
So it tainted the well a little bit, you're saying?
A lot.
A lot.
And Muay Thai for whatever reason
I mean
You go to Muay Thai events
And
They're rabid
And it's like a very deep community
Of people that really understand
And appreciate the sport
Yeah
They'll play the Thai music
And they wear all the
Mong Kong on their head
They bow to their trainer
And they go out there
And they're fucking
Throwing elbows
And smashing And kicking legs and
it's amazing to watch same thing as kickboxing more or less it's the hardest it's the hardest
of all of them more elite version of kickboxing yeah because it's elbows and knees and a lot of
clinch work and a lot of dumping where they trip you and slam you to the ground and and they kick
you on the way down too they'll like if you're good they'll throw you into the ground, and they kick you on the way down, too. They'll throw you into the ropes, and if you're still on your way down,
you get punted in the head.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, and it's legal.
It's a hard sport, man.
It is.
As hard as it comes.
I don't know.
You feel like we could get people to get behind.
I mean, even for me.
You'd have to have some sort of an epic change in the way we view things.
But to me, it's way more exciting than football.
If those football players all decided to do Muay Thai, it would be better for their brains, believe it or not, to be a fighter.
And two, you would see these elite athletes fucking smashing each other like that.
Let's talk about that.
It would be incredible.
I want to talk about it because I was talking to Brendan about this and Izzy.
Izzy came on one of my podcasts and we were talking about when are the elite-
Who's Izzy?
Adesanya.
Oh, Israel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, style bender.
Yeah, style bender.
Shouts to style bender, man.
He's the best.
That's my guy, man.
I love him.
He's the beast.
He's a perfect example of the style that is so fucking exciting to watch.
Well, so is his opponent.
He's fighting this dude.
Gastelum?
Yeah, Kelvin Gastelum, who is one of the elite of the elite out there as well.
Stunt wrestler, short, stocky, blasting striker, good wrestling, good grappling.
Tough fight.
These fucking wrestlers have power.
Toughest people in the world.
They're tough as fuck But they have power It's a unique thing
Because sometimes
The jujitsu guys
Don't have power
With the hands
But these wrestlers
It seems like
They all have power
And I was asking
Some folks around
And they were like
It's core
Everything in wrestling
Some of them
Yeah some of them
But like Ben Askren
Who's probably one of the
Best wrestlers
In the sport
Doesn't have any power
In his hands Does he even try? Yeah but he's just about getting you to the ground and fucking
you up right he's just he just has such unbelievable confidence and he should he's undefeated in his
wrestling yeah that he just concentrates on absorbing whatever he can and grabbing you what
is his i mean like maybe i'm just such a you know uh newbie to this, but I don't understand his leverage point.
What is his skill?
Is he so strong that his grip?
It's not just physical strength.
It's technique.
It's an understanding of it.
You've got to think of wrestling the same way you would think of chess.
If you only know a
few moves you're not going to beat a guy who knows all the moves he knows all the moves so once he's
locked with you you defend okay you think oh i'm gonna stuff i'm gonna dig in my hooks i'm gonna
pummel under here and i'm gonna defend he already knows you're gonna do that so he's so he's shooting
waiting for you to pummel As you're pummeling
He's switching to the inside
He's tripping you
He's grabbing hold of your legs
In this really awkward way
He's rolling back
Because he knows your weight
Is going to be going
In a certain direction
He's anticipating
Several steps ahead
And he has
International wrestling
Competition experience
Which is just
Next level
He's wrestling
These guys from Russia and Iran
and some of the best wrestlers in the world.
There's levels to this fucking thing.
Levels.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
His levels, it's in a...
But the same you could say about Stylebender.
See, the thing about Stylebender is he's an elite kickboxer.
He lost the glory middleweight title
in a very controversial decision to jason
wellness who was one of the elite of the elite one of the best guys out there so stylebender
competed at the highest level of one of the most difficult combat sports in the world and in that
world he's known as a precision artist right in that world he's a technician he's not like there's
some guys that are just thugs
they got a good low kick they get a good shell they throw bombs they're willing to brawl they
know a few things they know how to pump the double jab and lead and get that inside leg kick in yeah
style benders a different animal he's switching stances on you he's hitting you with upward
elbows setting things up i notice him with the feints Dude he fucks people up
There's a video of him
The one when he went into god mode
That I had on my Instagram
That Lawrence Kenshin broke down
Dude he fucks people up man
And he fucks people up in an artistic way too
The way he picks his shots
He just knows what you're going to do
Before you know what you're going to do
And he has several steps
So he has that same level of skill
That Ben Askren possesses in wrestling
He has in kickboxing
What is more valuable in an open fight?
This is it right here
He's standing in front of this dude
He's setting him up, looking for the moves
Waiting to see how the guy responds
And then, watch this, slam
And he walks away
the walk away KO
one of the most devastating
psychological maneuvers of all time
he's a special guy
but there's no one thing that's better
what's the most effective form?
wrestling
because the best wrestler
can dictate where the fight takes place
the best wrestler can get a hold of a guy and drag him down like Khabib Nurmagomedov,
who might be the best fighter in the world.
He's the UFC lightweight champion.
And what stands out about him is that he can get a hold of guys,
and once he does, they can't do jack shit about it.
He's not the best striker in the world, but he's good enough,
so you have to be scared of him on the feet because he dropped Conor McGregor. I mean, he can tag you. He can fuck you up. He's not the best striker in the world, but he's good enough so you have to be scared of him on the feet because he dropped
Conor McGregor. He can tag
you. He can fuck you up. He's got power. He's knocked guys
out. But more importantly, that's
to set up the clinch. And then once
he gets to the clinch, you're his.
Then you're going for a ride. You're getting slammed
and then you're getting the fuck beaten out
of you on the ground and you're getting strangled.
And that's just how it goes.
But he has the
full skill package like he can strike with you he can submit you but his grappling is what allows
that to take place now with stylebender stylebender's grappling allows him to stay up on the
feet see he's a very good grappler in terms of his ability to get back up and his ability to stuff
the take he's got the sprawl now he's got whatever yeah not just sprawl but he gets the fuck out of there he pushes your
head he pops his legs out he kicks back and then he punishes you on the way out pop take that with
you yeah great distance yes it's a different i know this is different like with the the sports
that involve legs but like you guys fight it a further distance. Of course, you have to.
But it also makes you
susceptible for counters
in a way.
When Conor was fighting Floyd,
my biggest concern for Conor
was not speed or
counterpunching. It was the distance
that you're going to
be able to counter. And when
Conor caught Floyd, he caught Floyd a couple times in the beginning. I think one was a left uppercut. He caught Floyd. That be able to counter. And when Conor caught Floyd,
he caught Floyd a couple times in the beginning.
I think one was a left uppercut.
He caught Floyd.
That was shocking to me
because I was surprised that he had
boxing counterpunching speed.
The distance is half.
Yeah.
Compared to a kick sport.
Yeah.
I would say if we're standing, what,
two, three feet away from each other in
kickboxing it's one and a half in boxing right so to cut that distance in half and still have
the counter punching ability was impressive yeah i mean well he's done a lot of lower level boxing
in the gym stuff like that is when you get up to that level it's a different fucking game floyd
mayweather's on a completely different planet than anybody else. He's the greatest great of all time.
Yeah.
That's what I'm meaning.
I think he's better at boxing than Stephen Hawking is at astrophysics.
Ha!
You might be right.
Look, he's 50-0.
The counter, it does count, even though it probably shouldn't.
Right.
I mean, it was a real boxing match, but it was a guy that had zero professional boxing
matches.
But he did get tagged.
Connor can punch. He's a good fighter. He's a very good mixed martial arts fighter. But it was a guy that had zero professional boxing matches But he did get tagged Connor Ken Punch
He's a good fighter
He's a very good mixed martial arts fighter
But the thing about Floyd is that Floyd is the best at not getting hit
No one's better
So he's been tagged, really tagged
Like three times, four times in his whole career
I can name him, five times
Sugar Shane Mosley, Maidana, the end of the fourth round
The other ones are earlier
Zap Judah, right hook He actually dropped him Zap Judah was a wicked man His dad was a kickboxer Yep Maidana The end of the fourth round Yep The other ones are earlier Zab Judah Right hook
He actually dropped him
Zab Judah was a wicked man
He was great
His dad was a kickboxer
That's right
He came from that
What is his name
Something Judah
I forget his name
But all guys from
You all Judah
Yeah
And then Demarcus Chop Chop Corley
Oh that's right
I forgot him
And wobbled him
Oh yeah that's right
Yeah
It was
Yeah
Yeah my pops was like a massive boxing fan he used
to like go to ali's uh he was a journalist back in the day used to cover like ali in his fights
and so like that's why i kind of came up you know generationally watching boxing oh that's awesome
yeah dude it was like i mean some of the best moments you know what else floyd has going for
him that uh the best jujitsu guys have going for him is that he's not physically powerful like the best jujitsu guys
are smaller people right because the smaller people learn how to use leverage and technique
and they can't muscle things whereas if you're like a 250 pound gorilla you're some big football
player dude and you're like man i want to learn some fucking jujitsu yeah like you don't ever have
to be on your back right you know like i was talking to shop about that because shops thinking
about doing jujitsu again.
Because I was telling him I got back into it recently.
I'm really enjoying it.
And he's like, I don't know.
I go, just roll off your back, man.
To be a big guy with a guard?
No big guys have guards.
It's so rare.
Because big guys just get little guys on the ground.
And they have a nasty top game.
But then when they find themselves on their back, a lot of them are turtles.
They don't know what to do yeah it's it's a technique thing a little guy has to learn perfect precision
technique because they don't have that exercise it's like being a point guard in the nba floyd
has weak hands he's broken his hands many times and even though he's capable of knocking guys out
it's with precision he's not going to knock you out like a John the Beast Mugabe would
or a Francis Ngannou would
or a fucking,
a real power puncher,
Joe Smith.
There's guys who just fucking
get you to the cage
or against the ropes
and just smash.
Yeah.
Uncanny.
Some of these guys,
it's just raw power.
It's empty.
And it's,
yeah,
Floyd is all precision and he's all, like one of the most fun things for me is watching Floyd in the first round and watching him take away your life.
Yeah.
Like, I like to see him take away a fighter's confidence.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, he knew that Mosley was going to get off with the jab, or at least he knew Mosley thought that he was going to get off with the jab. And there's a moment, even in the first round, I know he gets tagged with
that overhand right, but there's a moment where Mosley pops the left jab and Floyd sees it,
steps back slightly, and then comes straight over at the right. In that moment, you could see Shane know that there's nothing he can do because Floyd has timed the jab
and countered it directly so now your jab is done right now I've lopped off one of your arms I've
literally just cut it off now you got to open up with the right you're not gonna do anything to me
just straight right I mean I got the Philly shell it's over yeah it's like seeing him take pieces
away from a fighter it's I just I love fucking Floyd man's like seeing him take pieces away from a fighter I just
I love fucking Floyd man
well he learned how to
box at a super young age
too
and his dad
was a wizard
his dad
when he was young
fought Sugar Ray Leonard
in a very good fight
when Sugar Ray was in his prime
good pedigree man
comes from good pedigree
they know how to do it
they're smart fighters
his uncles
Roger Mayweather
the black mamba
yeah
his brother was a motherfucker, man.
I used to love watching his brother fight.
Yeah.
Or his uncle, rather.
I used to love watching his uncle fight.
He would fight on ABC, whatever television shows were having boxing on television during
the day.
Yeah.
Maybe it was ABC.
I don't remember.
But yeah, that family, he grew up boxing.
And he also got to see the things that people do wrong.
And here's another thing
That Floyd has going for him
Conditioning
Unfathomable
He's always in tremendous shape
Always
Just always in shape
I think it's a hustle
When you see him eating
The McDonald's and shit
No he eats that shit
He eats that shit
You think
100%
Regularly
100%
Really
You can eat that shit
It's just carbohydrates
It's just bullshit
The thing about that
Like either eating sugar
Or like he'll drink a soda
After a workout
He's working out
For two and a half hours
So you can take some sugar
Dude not only
Can you take some sugar
There's an argument
That that kind of sugar
Is not bad for you
After you have
A brutal workout
Dude when I was
We did this
Sober October challenge
Yeah yeah yeah
Shout out to Ari man Dude Ari looked phenomenal I'm a fucking freak When I saw him in New York I was like dude this Sober October challenge Yeah, yeah, yeah Shout out to Ari, man
Dude, Ari looked phenomenal
I'm a fucking freak
When I saw him in New York
I was like, dude, you had abs?
I knew that Ari was gonna be
My biggest competition, too
Cause he looked so tired in his face
Like his head is just exhausted
Yeah, he's like Eeyore
So tired
So tired of this bullshit
But his body was fucking shredded
He got shredded
Yeah
What is this?
Chad Johnson, he always eats McDonald's
And he's doing it
While he's working out right here
Yeah
Yeah, dude, you can do that He's doing it while he's working out right here. Yeah.
Yeah, dude, you can do that.
It's all in how much you exercise.
Now, that's not all he eats.
Let's go, Chad.
Obviously, he's eating healthy food on top of that.
But if he feels like fucking off and getting a Big Mac, he can do that.
And there's no performance benefit or no penalty. Yeah. You can do it. So when Floyd does that, he is doing that and there's no no performance benefit right no but no penalty yeah yeah you can
do it so when Floyd does that he is doing that yeah he really is eating that nonsense is Chad
still working out yeah he loves it just for exercise just for fun he fucking loves it 22
miles an hour it's his comedy what does he do with himself these days so what he'll do is I mean he'll
like play guys and like play guys in FIFA online. He's a great follow on Twitter.
It's hilarious.
Oh, yeah, I follow him.
It's like a girl will post a picture and then he'll say what's wrong with the picture.
Like she'll be smoking hot and be like, yeah, but your shades are $30.
Like, you know, don't put so much money into your outfit when the blinds in your house are $30.
Like he'll just nitpick little things.
Like, dude, he's hilarious.
But my guesstimation is this is his comedy.
Remember you were saying?
Yeah, yeah.
He used to sleep at the arena or at least at the stadium.
When he played, he was obsessed with it.
He loved the sport.
He was talking about fighting Anderson Silva at one time.
No, no, no.
He's crazy.
Yeah, he's crazy. That's football player confidence. Anderson when he was in his one time No no no He's crazy Yeah He was talking about
Fighting
That's football player confidence
Anderson when he was
In his prime
No no no
I think he has
Martial arts skill though
I'm not bullshitting
He's the box
Yeah
Nice little southpaw
Actually he's got
Great frame for it
Let's see if we can find
Him hitting the pads
Or hitting the bag
Yeah
Cause I think he has
Real martial arts skill
Like legit martial arts skill
Well that's the question
When are these elite
Athletes gonna enter MMA Damn Well they are But. Well that's the question. When are these elite athletes going to enter MMA?
Well they are, but in small numbers. Who's the first?
Well, Jon Jones is absolutely an elite athlete.
But he's got a 20 inch vertical.
Uh, yeah.
So it's like, how elite?
He's got small calves, but
the fact that he has those small calves
allows him to be 6 foot 4 and
205 pounds right you're
saying if he was bottom heavy he'd be 250 yeah he'd be a different weight which he could be
by the way he could be a heavyweight he could bulk up and go up to heavyweight but he's got
like weird calf genetics his calves are tiny right the thing is you don't have to jump that much in
mma and he can hit you in the face with a flying knee. Right. But what he knows how to do and what he can do physically in terms of his wrestling
and his ability to close the distance and smash guys and time people,
he's an elite athlete.
I mean, I think he could have done that.
His two brothers play NFL.
Here he is.
There you go.
Here's Chad.
Sparring a little bit.
But he's in blue, right?
Yeah. Still can't be touched, he says little bit But he's in blue right Yeah
Still can't be touched
He says
Well he's a southpaw
Yeah
So
Let's see this
Stay away from Anderson Silva
So he's
Oh okay
Oh it's got good head movement
Okay
Good head movement
Yeah for sure
I like the way he moves
Hands down though
Ridiculous
See the duty
Sparring though
We don't know shit
About him
That guy might be terrible
Yeah
You know I mean
That guy didn't once
Try to go to the body
He didn't duck in
You know when someone's
Moving their head around
Like that
Just smash their ribs
You go right after
Just go after the arms
Yeah
Hit those arms
That's what they try to do
With Floyd man
Yeah good luck Yep Good luck No flaws in the game those arms That's what they try to do with Floyd man Yeah good luck
Yep
Good luck
No flaws in the game
No flaws
That's the thing it's like
No flaws
You can't point one thing
Right
It's like we were talking about
With Ben Askren
That when a guy
Is a super elite wrestler
Yeah
You think you're gonna do something
But he knows you think
You're gonna do something
So he does it
You do what you were going to do
He anticipates what you're going to do
He has an answer to that
Yeah
And then you have to regroup
And he's already moving on to step three
Like there's too many steps that he's ahead of you
Can there be a guy like with him
That you don't engage on the ground
Like you just kind of jab
Stay on the outside
Right
Just stay on the outside
Exist in MMA
Yeah for sure
Look Robbie Lawler
Almost took Ben Askren out in his last fight
And it wasn't for Ben's mental toughness
And his ability to endure punishment.
Most guys would have probably gone unconscious there.
But stylebender,
like a guy like stylebender
would be one of the worst fucking nightmares
for a guy like Ben Askren.
Right.
Because he's super difficult to take down.
And on the feet,
he's not going to do anything stupid.
Right.
You're going to move forward
and try to grab a hold of him.
And you're just going to eat knuckle sandwich
after knuckle sandwich. And he's going to slowly chop at try to grab a hold of him. And you're just going to eat knuckle sandwich after knuckle sandwich.
And he's going to slowly chop at your legs.
Whack.
Yeah.
And you're going to feel that low calf kick.
Whack.
You're going to feel the inside of your thigh shit.
Yeah.
You're going to try to walk off the pain.
You'll switch stances because it starts to hurt.
Whack.
He didn't recognize he's switching stances.
He attacks the other leg.
Now both your legs are fucked up.
Yeah.
He comes down the middle with a knee to the solar plexus.
Now you're hurting.
Trying to play it off.
It's just a matter of doing his
game. In Stylebender's
game, his game is
keep the fight standing. Fuck
you up. And then Ben Askren's
it's grab a hold of you.
Fuck you up. Drag you to the ground. Fuck
you up. It's a hold of you fuck you up right drag you to the ground fuck you up it's a matter of
like who who's better at the weak aspect of the other person's game right yeah yeah how can i
take advantage yeah it's a great and no one could be the best at everything so some like mma math
is a notoriously difficult thing to do like say say say if Jamie beats me, but I beat you, but you beat Jamie.
Yeah.
Like, that happens.
That's MMA math.
It's crazy.
But we always say that with, like, you know, styles make fights.
Yeah, exactly.
But it doesn't work with Floyd.
See, in boxing, that styles make fights only goes so far.
With MMA, it's because the sport's more comprehensive
because there's more skills,
there's more different things happening. It's football
compared to basketball. Maybe.
It's like there's more
tools that can be used in here
that can offset what's going on.
Whereas basketball, the Warriors are going to beat
any team four out of seven games.
That's just going to happen.
I don't know shit about basketball or football, so I'm just guessing.
You could be a superstar.
Like, there's no one position in football that can change the game.
What about the quarterback?
Eh.
I think a quarterback is overrated, to be honest with you.
I think the most important position is the offensive-defensive line.
Well, I'm always amazed at Tom Brady's body.
How regular it is?
Super regular. Super regs. How regular it is? Super regular.
Super regs.
Super regular.
But they get it.
That team gets it.
I think Tom Brady's like 15th highest paid quarterback in the league.
Right, but if you look at an elite athlete's body, I want to see a dude who's built like
Kamaru Usman.
Yes.
The UFC welterweight champion.
Yeah.
That's an elite athlete.
You look at him and you go, oh yeah.
But he's not an elite athlete. Looks like go Oh yeah But he's not an elite athlete
Looks like a UFC champion
He's not an elite athlete
When you hit
Well greatest quarterback
Of all time
Whoa
Can't wait to see this guy
Without a shirt on
What does he look like
Your father
That's my dad
You know what he looks like
A Tom
He looks like Tom Brady
That's exactly what
The fuck he looks like
He has his own body
Yeah I mean
What makes that guy so special That's the thing It's like looks like. He has his own body. Yeah, I mean, what makes that guy so special?
That's the thing.
It's like sometimes, you know, sometimes.
Something's going on.
Yeah, he's up here, and I think, you know, he's got a lot of it up here, and he works hard.
It's like, you know, sometimes the greatest aren't the great.
Pull up a picture of him next to Kamaru Usman.
Yo, you know what it is?
It's like sometimes having all the natural tools is to your detriment.
There he is.
Look at that.
Yeah, bro.
Come on, son.
Yeah, like a leopard.
Yeah, he's ready.
Yeah, Ben Askren's similar too.
Yeah, he's got a little muffins.
He's got a little muffin on him.
Ben Askren's got even worse.
Pull up a picture of Ben Askren.
Why doesn't he come down and wait, Ben Askren?
Because he doesn't want to.
And he's got it like that?
I don't give a fuck.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He feels like he's so much better as a wrestler that everybody else is fucked.
Give me an image of Ben.
Yeah, go to his abdomen.
Yeah, look at that.
I mean, he's got abs, obviously.
He's got hips.
Underneath that.
That's from one FC.
He looks even worse now.
Yet winning.
Yeah.
There he goes.
I mean, that is not what the ideal male combat body you would think.
That's not what the ideal combat body looks like.
But he'll fuck shit up.
There's a picture of him with Kamaru Usman there, but he's got a shirt on.
Yeah, Usman is insane.
Lucky for him.
But, like, there's just some guys that, like, okay, Francis Ngannou is a perfect example.
Yeah.
Some guys look like a destroyer.
Yeah.
They just look like a destroyer.
Yeah.
Ngannou is, like, 6'5", 200, maybe more than 6'5". Sometimes those guys, like, I think you were saying earlier Gano is like six, five, 200, maybe more than six,
five.
Sometimes those guys,
like,
I think you were saying it earlier about the,
about the jujitsu,
right?
Like,
and it's not just in,
in this,
it's in anything.
It's like sometimes the guys with all the natural ability,
they don't have the,
the work ethic to be the greatest because it comes so easy.
Yeah.
You know,
it's like,
like we,
we all know comics that are like so funny hanging out and they're okay on stage yep and it's i think it's because comedy comes so easy to them
they don't hit the gym yeah you know what i mean like maybe it's you need that like jordan almost
like sociopathic approach to it you know we're, like we were having this conversation earlier is like,
huh,
like do you think
Jordan's happy?
I don't think he's happy.
Remember when he was
abducted,
abducted,
inducted into the
Hall of Fame?
I thought you were
about to tell me
he was an abducted
in plain sight
and I was like,
bro,
if this guy
fucked Jordan too.
Jesus Christ.
He is the goat.
Do you remember when he was inducted into the Hall of Fame And he was talking about writers?
Yeah
He was talking shit about writers
Fuck yeah
He wasn't thanking his coaches and his teammates
And it's been an amazing ride
And I feel so blessed and fortunate
No, he's still like
And fuck you
Remember when you said that?
Fuck you
1993
Your Sports Illustrated issue
You said my shoes look shitty yeah well but that's his
furnace right like some people have some people need that as a furnace like they need that that
competitive drive you know and like i feel like i feel like that happens when you don't derive joy
from what you do you know like you derive joy from the outcome.
You're obsessed with outcome.
You know, like,
at least for me,
everything before was outcome, right?
It was like, I'm good if,
if I get a special.
I'm good if I'm doing these things.
Or I'm good if I kill.
And the second I was stripped of the opportunity
to do those things,
I actually found
like i loved creating more and then whatever the outcome was was extra does that make sense right
yeah i think it's a happier path i think so too but i don't know if it's the path to greatness
as much as the path of the psychopath especially when it comes to competitive sports
something about the best athletes they all miserable how they they have a fucking self-loathing
they and they also have an ego and they have this this anger towards the competition yeah
like if you beat them they would say that if you beat jordan in a game of pool
yeah anything fucking hate you for two months.
We're playing again.
Yeah.
But he needs it, right?
It's because he operates on I'm not good enough.
And if I beat you, then he goes, all right, I was good enough.
I don't even know if it's that he thinks he's not good enough,
is that he knows he can get you.
Don't quit, motherfucker.
I'm going to get you.
But why does he need to get you?
I don't know.
He needs to because it's like he needs to confirm something.
Maybe. Right? I need to confirm. I don't know. He needs to because it's like he needs to confirm something. Maybe.
Right?
I need to confirm.
It's constant confirmation.
I need to confirm
on that.
Great, confirm, confirm.
It's not that he doesn't
believe he's great.
It's that he wants
to confirm it constantly.
There's a little shadow
of a doubt.
He's like,
I'm great.
I'm great.
He's walking around.
I'm great.
And there's a little voice
in his head that's going,
hey, you might not be that great.
How about when he played baseball?
That motherfucker
wanted to prove.
Yeah.
You know the hardest thing in sports, hitting a baseball.
Yeah.
It's the hardest fucking thing.
And he just jumped from basketball to baseball and was, people act like he was trash.
He wasn't even that bad.
He hit like 250.
302?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The baseball card I'm looking at says he was 302? No, no, no.
The baseball card I'm looking at says he was 302.
But it might be for 185 out of 615 at-bats.
Bro, we're talking about the hardest thing in sports is hitting a fucking baseball.
The fact that he...
I mean, there's a bunch of rumors on why he even went into baseball in the first place.
But, like, it's that psychopathic mentality.
It was a gambling thing, right?
That's the rumor.
Some people say it's gambling.
Some people say, you know, there's a bunch of different things.
I don't want to put out there because I don't know.
But, like, it's one of those, I think there is a balance, man.
I think that you could, I think if you truly love what you do, like if you love the creative aspect and then you have high standards for yourself, then you can achieve both.
Yeah.
I think that achieving quote unquote greatness and living with misery, I don't think that's worth it.
No.
I don't think that's worth it for you.
It's like you got one shot at this, man.
Like this life, man.
Like you got one shot at it. Like this this life man, like you got one shot at it try to figure it the fuck out and it takes time
to figure the fuck out but
And it's one of those things you can't even really explain to people but if you can
I'm approaching this point in my life where like yeah, I think I I get it
Does that make sense? Like how old are you now? 35. Yeah, and like
it's
Like my my buddy explains it like this he's like there's these
different phases in life he's like there's and none of them is better or worse than the other
but you know there's this vegetable phase where you're like just going to work and then you're
coming home right and uh you don't think about anything then there's a why phase right which is
what gets us into comedy a lot of us right we start asking why just about stupid shit like
why do i have to have breakfast in the morning or like whatever it is which is why and then there's the phase which a lot of
the discussion is on on this show and a lot of comedy operates is which is everything is and
isn't not everything is or isn't right right right it's like what where you operate and why people
are drawn to this right and why people are drawn to maybe my stand-up and other things is we're shaking the foundation of the world.
We're showing that the world isn't one way.
You're not either good or bad.
Right.
Everybody and everything is both.
The MAGA hat is so offensive to women, right?
Because it stands for these offensive things.
It's like, well, what about the Viking helmet?
Yeah.
They did some fucked up shit to women, didn't they?
Right.
We wear that every Sunday for Vikings games.
Yeah.
And then people go, all right, so two things can be true.
Or two things can be false.
You know?
And that place where fucking comedy lives.
Nuance.
Nuance.
Where comedy lives and conversation lives.
You know?
Yeah.
That is an amazing place that not everybody gets to.
Well, that's what's so offensive about progressive fake comedy is that they're pretending the
world's binary.
Yes!
It's one and zero.
And you have to punch up.
All comedy is punching up.
I had a conversation with this guy who wrote a book once on the podcast.
Because there's no gray.
There's no gray.
Right?
It's black or white.
Right.
So without gray, they don't even believe there's no gray right it's it's black or white right so without gray they don't even believe
there's great like you and i take for granted that we understand there's gray yeah we truly
understand we truly get it like and that's why we can have a conversation about maybe some of the
most vile things and try to put context into it or nuance as you're saying yeah you know what i'm saying yes
that conversation tons of people are going to write comments are you motherfuckers are this
yeah and then the other side is going to go you motherfuckers are there yeah it's so problematic
that you're talking about yes so why why can we do that what makes us able to do that what do we
understand about the world that allows us to do that?
And how do we, you can't tell people things, you have to show them.
How can we show that?
Humor.
I think that's it. I think that's why we're the first persons killed when a dictatorship takes over.
The comedians?
Yeah, the philosophers, comedians.
Anybody who goes, hey, look at the world this way, get them the fuck out of here right stop mocking shit stop making people think a
little bit well also the thing about comedy is i've always said that if you can make someone
laugh about something you force them to think about it if you're just on stage spouting your
opinions like one of the real problems that i have with a lot of what they're calling comedy
where they're just waiting for applause breaks when you say something.
Bro, clapper.
Intersectional, you know, ideas must be approached with the same...
They're abusing comedy.
I know what you're doing.
Yeah, what they're doing is they're doing...
It's their time.
They can do whatever the fuck they want with it, but I know the difference.
It's a hack.
They've, like, they've figured out a way to, like, make a shortcut.
But it's not stand-up's a hack they've like they've figured out a way to like make a shortcut but it's not stand up it's something else it's like you're just expressing opinions but if you're just on stage saying your opinions on things i can be in the audience going well i don't
agree with that i have a different opinion but if you're on stage saying something that makes me
laugh even though i don't agree with your philosophy bullfighting yeah
that's that's when it gets you like if you're a hardcore republican trump supporter and someone
does a joke about trump that makes you fucking laugh you're like god damn it he got me this
motherfucker got that's the game the second you tell me i can't joke around about something that's
what i want to joke around about yeah now you just gave me the bull yeah and
there's this thing in bullfighting where if you put a little bull out there the crowd boos oh right
because they want a dangerous bull yes it's not fair that's true so and that's how comics feel
when we see you doing easy jokes we're booing we don't we don't say it out loud but in our head
we're like yes they're all gonna laugh at a joke about how women are smarter than men because there's a bunch of dudes trying
to get pussy that are at that show with the girl they're trying to get pussy from.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, so it's like, how do you, it's putting, it's that world where it operates in.
And then the next thing is, I think, which I'm not there yet, but I get glimpses and
it's like, from nothing comes everything you know like for me i remember for the show in the comedy
store in la when you walked in like that was crazy for me because obviously any comic you're you know
watching this show and you're seeing and you're like, it would be so cool one day to be on Joe Rogan's podcast. Right. And then, but it was nothing I would ever ask for
because I stopped asking. I stopped feeling entitled to anything. I just decided like when
you walked in, I was like, this is awesome because I never expect, see what I'm saying? I only do
the shit that I want to do
because I can control that.
And if I just worry about expecting
or wanting shit that I can't control,
I'll be miserable, right?
So, and you walked in
and you did the fucking show
and you're like,
hey, I heard some good stuff
and I want to check it out.
And I was like,
that's fucking unreal.
And I was overwhelmed
because I'd never expected shit.
And even in that moment,
I wouldn't ask you to come on.
And I didn't care if I didn't come on.
I didn't give a fuck
because I was so grateful
that that had happened.
It was almost like I was just true to comedy
and all I wanted to do was good comedy.
And the fucking ether opens.
That's how it opens all the universe's doors.
Bro, that's it.
That's it.
That's fucking it.
Especially in this world, the world that we live in, if you're doing real shit, people find out about it.
People find out, man.
I hear about you.
I heard about you through several people.
And I was like, really?
Oh, okay.
Cool.
Let me check them out.
And then I saw some of your shit online.
I'm like, ah.
I could tell.
There's people that are doing the real thing.
They're out there really doing comedy.
And they're trying to make things funny.
And they're talking about controversial subjects and talking about different things and their perspective in life.
And they're not worried about the industry's opinion of them.
And what you said was so true that in the day, everybody was trying to get a sitcom, man.
And that's all they were doing.
They were doing these acts.
Like, you would get actors who would get into comedy just so they could put together a seven minute set yes so they could
get a sitcom off of it and then they would stop doing stand-up it was a lot of that but that
world dried up when the sitcom dried up yes and it happened right around the time that fear factor
kicked yes because when fear factor kicked in reality TV show squashed all these sitcoms.
Yes.
Which was really funny because some people were – I had an argument with a comic about that.
And he's like, man, I just think it's fucked up that you're doing a reality TV show and supporting reality TV.
I go, why?
He goes, because it takes jobs away from comics that write on sitcoms.
I go, hey, man.
I go, first of all, they're not writers on sitcoms.
They're taking a job writing on sitcoms while they're doing stand-up comedy.
They're fucking comics, okay?
I'm taking a job making people eat animal dicks while I'm doing comedy.
The difference is I'm still doing comedy,
and these motherfuckers are just looking for some sort of a gravy train
to ride off into the sunset.
If the show was good, people would watch it instead of these reality shows.
Simple as that.
And then it wouldn't exist anymore.
But there were so many bad sitcoms that it opened the door to Real Housewives and all
these other things.
And the next thing you know, name me three sitcoms, go, that are on right now.
Oh, can I take it one step further?
Yeah.
There'll never be another hit sitcom again.
It probably won't.
It is over.
It's probably over.
And I'm walking around the agency that I'm with yesterday, and I'm talking to people,
and they don't get it.
No.
Bro, I felt like Christian Bale in The Big Short.
I'm just walking around.
It's over.
It's over.
Do you guys not know?
Yeah.
We need to write a show around you.
I'm like, guys, guys, guys.
There's no more. You know what guys not know? Yeah. We need to write a show around you. I'm like, guys, guys, guys. There's no more.
You know what's really over?
Go.
You ever look at the fucking ratings for late night television?
Oh, it's done.
It's crazy.
Bro, this is why I put your clips up.
You just put your clips up.
Put your clips up.
Instagram.
Look, everything that I've done, it's for comics.
Like, don't think that, like like you're copying or anything like that.
It's for you.
Look at the blueprint.
Yeah.
Copy it.
Improve it.
Tell me how you improve it,
but empower yourself.
That's what this is for.
The blueprint
of putting things up on YouTube.
Putting things up
on YouTube,
Instagram,
Twitter,
like any,
and like I have a lot of comics
to reach out
and just ask questions about.
I'm here as a resource for you.
Comedy is at its best
when we are helping each other and New York doesn't get that right now just yet well there's
less opportunity that's that's it you know what happened in la but the sitcom is bro you're
fucking yeah dude it is so done this is how you know it's you know how i know it's done what is
your favorite scene in a sitcom or what top five, just a scene you loved in a sitcom?
Even though I was in a sitcom for five years, I don't really watch them.
Okay, fair enough.
Well, I watch Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, but that's a single camera.
That doesn't count, right?
It's a little different because there's like no audience.
But like, anybody's listening right now, right?
Like you can think of one of your favorite scenes, right?
Try to think of how that episode began.
You don't know.
Try to think about how it ended.
You don't know. Right. think about how it ended. You don't know.
Because the narrative was never important.
The narrative was to fill 30 minutes of time.
The only thing that was important were the five sketches that filled that 30 minutes of time.
22 minutes.
Or 22, yeah, exactly.
So it's like those five sketches don't have to have that bullshit narrative, right?
Right.
So right now, you really just need four or five
friends that are doing the same kind of funny shit we're already seeing the new sitcom right
now it's already existing well on instagram it's just a not a good art form you know if you watch
like the big bang or two and a half man or any of those and those are grandfathered in right it's
like that came from a time when it was there but like they weren't they're not entertaining they
certainly don't stand up like that's also why netflix kicked in with a lot of their dramas because
they can get away with things on stranger things or on ozark they can get away with shit you just
could never fucking do on regular television it's way more wild it's way more raw it's like you're
watching a better movie they not only does because it used to be that if you did film, you didn't want to do
television because television sucked, right?
Like television, you do an airwolf or something like that.
You're doing some terrible drama.
It's bullshit.
It's obvious.
You see it coming a mile away.
It's made for morons, right?
Yeah.
Or, you know, you did film.
And if you did film, boy, you got a chance to work with some of the most amazing directors
and do these incredible pieces but netflix came along and and really it was before netflix sopranos
laid the blueprint exactly sopranos yeah the wire i didn't watch the wire but it did the same sort
of thing right they created a new movie every week and it all went together and it lasted a hundred hours right and so you're like
oh my god well regular movies is so shallow i'm not even getting into the characters right yeah
this guy's 10 years later you see him 10 years later in the same movie right he's got a beard
now what the fuck is this this is terrible and and why is it because movies got so expensive to make
you couldn't take risks on stories that we didn't already know about yeah
movies became
100 million now if I go to you and I'm like okay give me 200 million to make a movie about it's this mob guy
And he's kind of got like some anxiety
You like are you out of your fucking mind?
But if I say give me 200 million to make a movie about Marvel. It's like oh that's an existing fan base
Yeah, is it based on a book or a movie about Marvel, it's like, oh, that's an existing fan base? Yeah.
Is it based on a book or a comic?
So right now, the only movies we see are either big budget that have a built-in audience or $3 million comedy.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Right?
That middle ground right there that used to be awesome movies, TV.
Yeah.
So now TV is the shit.
It's all these dope stories.
Like, Breaking Bad should have been a movie.
Right. But they turned that motherfucker into a TV show. It's way better as stories. Like Breaking Bad should have been a movie. Right.
But they turned that motherfucker into a TV show.
Way better.
Way better.
Yeah.
And they were restricted because it's cable.
It wasn't HBO.
Right.
And they had commercials and all that stupid shit.
Yeah.
I mean, what happened was with comics was the internet came along and all of a sudden there
was this wealth of avenues where comedians could show their
work.
Whereas before, you were limited by the gatekeepers.
Yes.
The gatekeepers were either sitcoms, and the sitcoms was what everybody wanted to get because
if you got a sitcom, then you were all set.
You were Jerry Seinfeld or you were Roseanne.
Yep.
And then it became something along the lines of Russell and you. Both guys, Russell Peters in particular, became gigantic, selling out arenas from YouTube.
That's where it came.
Little clips of his shit came up.
If you ever met Russell, he's one of the most generous guys in the world.
Super generous and friendly.
I know 10 comics whose rent he's paid.
He's the best.
He's just such a great guy.
But he's also a guy that recognizes that you got to
give some back you got to be and this just has his personality he's just a gregarious outgoing guy
all these podcasts that popped up people realize like hey you know we're not in competition with
each other like Jay Leno and David Letterman were because everybody wanted the Tonight Show spot
now there's a thousand Tonight Shows and if you have the Tonight Show and I wanted the Tonight Show spot. Now there's a thousand Tonight Shows. And if you have the Tonight Show and I have the Tonight Show, I'm like, hey, you should
check out Andrew's Tonight Show.
It's fucking great.
This is okay.
This is the Tonight Show.
You're Carson.
But we figured out a way.
You're Carson now.
You know that, right?
That's the difference.
That's the shift.
That's why Netflix can't even compete.
Netflix is done.
They're not done.
Done.
What are you talking about?
You see Charlie Wilson's War?
No.
Movie about,
Tom Hanks movie about America
getting involved with the Afghan conflict.
I didn't see it.
Afghanistan War.
Doesn't really matter.
But the idea is this.
They're fighting the Russians,
the Afghanis, right?
Right.
So the Americans go,
okay, boom.
Give them a $5,000 rocket launcher
and they're going to shoot down
a $5 million helicopter.
And eventually, Russia just won't be able to compete, right?
Netflix pays $100 million to Aaron Sorkin or whoever to make a TV show.
Right.
Right, that distracts you for two hours.
Right.
YouTube pays $0 million to Joe Rogan and Jamie to make a podcast that distracts you for two hours every day netflix cannot compete
but it's a different animal you got to realize first of all they have way more people than just
me they also are putting together something that requires a lot of money to create if you enjoy
films yes or if you enjoy a show like ozark Stranger Things it takes a lot of money to make those things
there's special effects
there's camera people and makeup people
there's a lot going on
writers and directors and producers
and actors
it's a giant fucking tent
filled with people
but people aren't watching it
a lot of people are watching that
they're watching Friends
Friends is terrible it doesn't matter if it's terrible You know what they're watching? A lot of people are watching that. They're watching Friends. No, no, no. Dude, there's a reason they paid off.
Friends is terrible.
Bro, it doesn't matter if it's terrible.
Jamie, the two most viewed shows on Netflix right now, Netflix doesn't own.
Netflix isn't even trying to make money anymore.
They're getting bought out.
It's Facebook, Amazon.
They're getting bought out by who?
They want to.
That's the strategy now.
They're $10 billion in debt.
There's no way they can make money.
They're $10 billion in debt?
$10 billion.
Really?
But they make hundreds of millions of dollars a
month like how many people do they have on board how many subscribers do they have that are paying
nine dollars as far as i know they don't share that information they're killing it in terms of
subscribers but they're 10 billion in debt they just talk on another two billion right when i say
netflix is done i'm speaking anytime i make declarations i'm speaking in the future right
i'm like we prepare now for the future right so it's like well how are they
here it goes netflix will keep friends through next year in a hundred million dollars they're
paying 100 million dollars right for one year of friends and then the office too you know what that
is though that's like nostalgia nostalgia right yeah so all viewing right now is nostalgia even
not all viewing well if you look at TV, right? What did great
this past year in TV?
The OJ trial on FX.
What is that? I remember I was when the OJ
thing came out. Did that do that great?
Killed it. Really? Won all the awards
and everything. The Versace story,
which is another thing. Am I
that out of the loop?
139 million subscribers
paying $10 a month
Is that what it is?
How much did it cost?
Something like that
Maybe even more
Maybe $11
How much did it cost?
They just bumped it up to $12 I think
$12 a month
Sure
That, ladies and gentlemen
Is a fuckload of income
Sure
So they got a lot coming in
But they're spending a lot too
Because they're trying to
$130
They're trying to overtake
All the others
And then they got Jeff Bezos
You know, Captain Moneybags up there, Scrooge McDuck.
Right.
He's trying to do the same thing.
Facebook Shabbat.
Which is where I saw you on Sneaky Pete.
Yeah.
I was like, Andrew.
But that's the thing.
Bezos can lose money on this shit because he's making tons of money on paper towels.
I wonder how much he is losing because he's got a lot of fucking series that ain't nobody
watching on that.
Yeah, just put it out there.
But he's doing something that's even more weird. Okay there's no one watching those shows yeah there's a ton of
fucking shows on amazon that fucking no one's watching yeah i would like to see their numbers
because i bet they have some shows they might they might spend a million dollars to make and
have like four viewers yeah there's fucking no one watching these shows they were
just going after awards their thing was we're gonna make the artsiest shit hollywood's gonna
give us a grammy or something like that and then it will like qualify our platform it's a smart
approach like youtube's approach was the exact opposite right we're like we're just gonna create
the stuff that we think people want to watch well youtube doesn't create much they did a little and
they took down the paywall like my thing i My guess with YouTube is they're waiting for Netflix.
You know that scene in the movie where somebody's caught in enclosed space and water starts coming in?
And the water gets right up to his lips.
He's trying to breathe a little bit more.
And I think YouTube is going to be the one to pour the last drop of water.
I think it's such a different thing.
is going to be the one to pour the last drop of water.
Well, I think it's such a different thing.
I think you're talking about two totally different things because Netflix has never aimed to be a user-created content streaming site.
Right.
They're not.
But at the end of the day, it's just distraction.
I think that's what we've got to start looking at content as, right?
It's just raw distraction.
And Netflix occupies a space for distraction that's smaller than YouTube.
So I can watch a two-hour thing on YouTube at home on my TV.
I can watch a two-minute thing on the bus as I'm going to work on YouTube.
I can watch a 15-minute piece, like vlog or something like that.
I can watch the whole spectrum.
Netflix, I'm really just watching at home or if I'm on a trip.
You know what I mean?
I'm not watching a two-minute thing on Netflixflix right you know what i mean it's it is
the shit for now don't get me wrong it's absolutely the shit for now right but if i was being if i'm
putting my money on it i would say if i'm facebook i buy it and then imagine having your facebook
feed you just watch the show and then you get to share it immediately on your Facebook feed.
If I was Facebook, I'd be super careful about buying anything because I think the government's been thinking about breaking them up for a while.
Oh, really?
And Elizabeth Warren is already talking about that.
That's one of the parts of her platform in running for president is breaking up Apple breaking up facebook breaking up twitter she wants
to break up all these things she thinks are monopolies what's your feeling on that get the
fuck out of here with that she is goofy man she's goofy as fuck what's up the uh disney takeover of
21st century fox takes place i think next week the 20th so yeah they're gonna put out their own
streaming everything they've just they've bought bought everything except for Fox News and Fox Sports. They took over all of their production, movie facilities.
Like 5,000 people might be losing their job because Disney doesn't need them.
But all that content's coming off of Netflix.
All those Marvel shows, all that shit is going to come over to them.
Really?
So now they're going to have a nice competition.
I wonder if that's why they've been canceling all these Marvel shows on Netflix.
Why would I keep investing in something that you're going to take off? off like i'm gonna build up a brand and then you're gonna remove it
right you own it so they've got so they got all the kids movies you're a dad you know what i mean
dude i go to disneyland twice a year at least what you're gonna not have a streaming disney
program with your kids apple's also starting their streaming service soon right isn't it like
tomorrow or some shit no one knows when but there's a bunch of, tons of rumors are coming out today.
You know what it's like, you know the perestroika?
Like what happened in Russia, like
where the overnight, you know, it fell and they
sold off the state assets to like a few people and everybody
became billionaires. Right. That's what's happening right
now in entertainment, dude. People don't realize
it, but like it's
fucking done. Like the days
of, the days of
like fame being about distance are done distance distance
like i'm johnny depp i'm gonna go away to my like little home somewhere in the alps and you will see
me twice a year you know and i'm weird i'm marlon brando i'm out here i'm weird i'm different you
know it's like now it's proximity there's a reason why no value in being weird anymore? Mylon Brando, Tyler Perry has an island, bro.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
That's interesting.
It is.
Have you been invited?
No.
No.
That's fucked up.
I don't want to go.
I ain't going to anybody's fucking island.
That's my rule.
What about Bronson?
Somebody wants to ask me?
Bronson, the virgin dude?
Richard Bronson, whatever his name is?
Branson.
Branson, yeah.
I ain't going to this fucking island.
I don't want to hang out with that dude.
You want to jet ski with Branson?
Why?
Why?
Why not jet ski with Joey Diaz?
Listen, I ain't hanging out with any dude who has an island.
Get the fuck out of here.
Why?
I'm not going to your island.
Because they always want you to go to their island.
Like, bitch, I ain't going to your island ever.
Then why can't we just go to the diner?
No.
What are we going to do with the fucking island?
I'm going to Oahu.
Who's that?
Eddie Murphy.
Eddie Murphy has an island? Yep. What? The Bahamas. we just go to the diner? No. What are we going to do with the fucking island? I'm going to Oahu. Who's that? Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy has an island?
Yep.
What?
The Bahamas.
Would you go to Eddie's?
I might go to Eddie's.
You got to go to Eddie's.
I like Eddie.
I met Eddie and I was good friends with his brother.
And?
Good guy?
Charlie was the best.
Charlie was the greatest guy of all time.
Yeah.
I met Eddie.
When I met Eddie Murphy, I met Eddie Murphy in Maui.
And he goes, the first words out of his mouth, he goes, you're a funny motherfucker. I met Eddie, when I met Eddie Murphy, I met Eddie Murphy in Maui.
And he goes, the first words out of his mouth, he goes, you're a funny motherfucker.
I was like, God damn, yes.
This is recently?
No, years ago.
Maybe more than 10 years ago.
Yeah, that's.
Like 2007, something like that.
That would be unreal.
Eddie Murphy saying you're funny. Yeah, it was crazy.
In Hawaii with my family.
I was like, thank you.
Like, what do you say?
When Eddie Murphy
Says you're a funny motherfucker
I'm like holy shit
Wow
Felt great
You know
You look at your wife
And be like
See
Fucking chuckle
Every once in a while
Yeah
He gets it
Honestly at home
I'm not that funny
My wife cracks
Most of the jokes
Really
Yeah I'm not I don't have to be funny Like I don't need funny. My wife cracks most of the jokes. Really? Yeah.
I don't have to be funny.
I don't need it.
It's one of the reasons why I like to hang around with Joey Diaz, because he's always funny.
Yeah.
And he's always the funny guy.
I like it.
I like being around funny people, man. The thing about comics, especially especially the needy annoying ones in the early
days like early days of your career they have to be the center of attention yeah that shit is
really annoying yeah and one of the things that you learn for sure about hosting a podcast is
you don't really want to be the center of attention you just want to facilitate a conversation right
you just want to make the best creation yeah what's the best creation if the best
creation is let this guy rant you got to let him rant get out of the way if the best creation is
you rant with him you jump in together and you go back and forth like a game of tennis then you do
it that way right but you have to be able to feel the vibe yeah and then some people are not going
to like it that way they're going to want why don't you let your guest talk like people love
to say shit like that like you know why are you interrupting his rants yeah i love to say things like that so you're trying to make a creation yeah yeah yeah
there's uh comics are not great listeners some of them are and well the ones that are are great at
this yeah right and uh the ones that aren't it's tough for them to do this and people know man
they figure it's it's how how comfortable is it when it gets in through their ears yeah like
is it getting in easy or is it like oh this guy's annoying yeah i'll bring on a guest and i'll hear
the guest say something and i just cringe because i anticipate the comments i'm just like dude you're
about to get crushed by the weight of the world. Will you quiet somebody?
No.
I mean, if I have to.
I try not to.
If I have to correct them.
If they're saying something that I know to be inaccurate.
If it's in my wheelhouse.
Sometimes people say something and I'll just say, that's not true.
Here's why that's not true. Yeah.
I've had people say some goofy shit and it just happens to be
something i know a lot about and then i have to stop it yeah okay that makes that makes sense
yeah it's just but for the most part i just i want people to just be themselves i gotta figure
out how to get you to be yourself that's what a lot of this is make you comfortable make you
realize that i just want you to do great. I want everybody to do great. Are you ever intimidated?
By a guest?
Yeah. By their intellect?
Yeah.
Like Elon Musk was intimidating.
Yeah.
Talking to him.
Because you realize what a chimp you are.
Did you feel that way?
Oh, yeah.
I'm a fucking dummy, man.
But like-
I'm talking to this guy.
I'm like, I'm a fucking chimp.
Here's a question.
Here's-
I felt like a chimp.
I'm like, look at him.
I'm like, yeah. So you're going to go to Mars, huh? Cool. Want to smoke some weed? He just kind of laughed Like look at him Yeah
So you gotta go to Mars huh
Cool
Wanna smoke some weed
That's what it felt like
Somebody's gotta make a cut of that
Like your chip moments
This motherfucker's making electric cars
He's sending rockets into space
Right
He's drilling holes under the ground you had to dumb
him down with the solar cities it didn't even didn't even work but so here's my take on it
right i'm watching musk right and he basically is opening up to you about how he's not happy
yeah right there's this moment where he's like i think he says something to the extent of you
wouldn't want to be me yeah he's just his exact words you wouldn't want to be me you wouldn't want to be me
so that means he doesn't want to be him i think on some level he doesn't want to be him right yeah
and he's so with these guys that we admire because they're so brilliant they have all these brilliant
ideas and we're we're put in this matrix of we're all in this success matrix on some level, right?
Where it's like, get things done, good.
Don't get things done, bad.
Right?
I wonder if he's chimpish in that he's potentially wasting his life being upset or miserable when he could be focusing on things that
would give him joy i think that being if is that being a fucking chimp is being so smart that you
don't even try to just be happy and focus on your happiness i don't necessarily think he's unhappy
but i do think that he puts himself into situations where the amount of stress that he absorbs is almost unfathomable.
Like when he was trying to get the Tesla Model 3 production schedule ramped up, he was sleeping on the floor of the factory and literally working like 19, 20 hours a day.
That's untenable.
You can only do that for short periods of time.
Right.
But I think that what I was saying about Kanye West applies to him tenfold.
Okay.
He's got a power output that's extraordinarily different than the average person.
And that's one of the things he was talking about when he was young.
I mean, you could probably put him on some sort of a –
I don't know what the super genius spectrum is.
Right.
Like what is – what's Albert Einstein?
Right.
What's this guy?
What's that guy?
He's in there somewhere in this crazy realm of the way a brain works.
I think that brains are like all other body parts.
Some people are born with little tiny dicks, and some people got giant hogs, and that's
just a fact.
And I think that dude has got giant hogs and that's just a fact and i think that dude
has a giant hog of a brain and it just works better it just it just is operating on a level
that you and i can't we can't comprehend but i never invented a goddamn thing in my life but
i'm driving around in elon musk's car you know that motherfucker made a car
and that's like some shit he does on the side you know his car thing is like after he invented paypal
yeah and he's by the way while he's doing the car he's shooting rockets into space and drilling
holes into the ground he's trying to move traffic underground he's trying to fucking he's making
solar cities like he's he's hooking up australia with these massive solar panel power battery
plants that fucking fix their energy needs he's he's on another level no doubt on another level
it's a different thing but so is he happy joe i don't know and imagine nice guy that was the
problem he seems happy yeah yeah i Yeah. I mean, yeah.
But what is happy, right?
Is he happy in bursts?
Well, I guarantee you, when I saw him and he was shooting his fucking flamethrower in my foyer, he was happy.
In your foyer?
Yeah.
Right out here, man.
Right out here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He had a fucking flamethrower.
He was tapping that bitch when he walked into the door.
He's unboxing it.
In the middle of this hallway out here, there's a picture of him standing in front of the
freak party sign, blowing flames out, 15 feet.
Look at that.
I mean, that fucking guy's a maniac.
Look at the smile on his face.
You can't tell him he's not happy, bro.
You know what?
Look at that smile.
He's happy as fuck.
It's because he's a kid, man yeah we're in a lot of ways dude there's this there's this fucking uh guy i forget his name is
dr uh rapai or something like that he's like this french consultant he's like some fucking genius
and he's like decoded cultures right and uh every culture he's decoded and he people hire him to
consult right and like america's code is, uh, it's,
uh, the verb is to do and the time is now.
Right.
And we're just kids at the end of the day.
Right.
It's like everything.
We love big tits in America.
Right.
Big,
most popular plastic surgery is big tits.
And like France,
most popular plastic surgery is getting tits reduced.
Right.
Everything about them is like precision and like the food on the plate.
Is that really their most popular plastic surgery?
That's what he said. Maybe it's
changed to like lips or something more common now,
but maybe the one you have to go under. Lips are a dark
one. Don't fuck with your lips, ladies. Oh, I like
it when they get a little lips if they have none.
No, if you have a fucking beak, you're gonna have
a little something. You see the
thing in there, it's like
it lets you know they're extra
needy. There's like something going on. They wanted their lips to be, you know, there's like it like lets you know they're extra needy there's like something going
on they wanted they wanted their lips to be you know there's like a symmetrical proportion that
your face is supposed to fall into this fibonacci sequence of right numbers like if you get a nose
job i look at you and i go what's wrong with his nose like something is wrong it registers wrong
in my head because your face So like Ari Perfect example
If Ari got a nose job
You're like
What the fuck
Is happening here
What's wrong with your face
Like if Ari had
Like a small
Irish person's nose
He'd be like
What is happening here
This doesn't even
Make any sense
Yeah maybe not
For his face
No
For his face
There's a sequence
Like your lips
Match your face
They match
How far your eyes are apart where your nose
is when you see a girl and she's a little tiny little skinny thing with little fingers and all
of a sudden she's got this yes these big weird lips but don't we like things that like stand out
like we like skinny with big tits we do we're drawn to it right we're drawn to things that
are abnormal we do nice big butt it's a trick the big tit one is a trick Because it represents Sexual viability
It represents your ability to
Breastfeed a child
Which is attractive to your genes
It doesn't make any sense that you would know
That there's a bag of water
Underneath her skin
That she had a tube down her throat
Taped to her face
She's half dead
They're cutting her open with a sharp knife and stuffing this bag of water under the meat of her breast tissue.
Or they're cutting her nipple off and opening it up like a fucking manhole cover and pumping that fucker in there.
It's crazy.
We know that that's what happened, and we still think it's hot.
All those things are nuts
reptilian bro yeah yeah it's in here we can't help it but like it bothers me when it's a butt
when it's a fake butt it bothers me like if there was a way that a girl could lift weights at the
gym and make her tits bigger and she went and got fake tits you wouldn't like them as much
wait a minute wait a minute oh yeah yeah yeah like knowing you can earn it. Yeah, you can earn it.
Yeah, it's lazy.
The butt thing is lazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The butt thing, it throws you off if it doesn't match the legs.
Like, if a girl's got a big butt, she's got some legs, like, damn, this bitch is deadlifting.
Yes.
You know, like, that's hot.
Yeah.
I've never said that in my head, but I know what you're talking about.
You've never said that?
This bitch is deadlifting.
You've never said that?
No, no.
I see a girl with big hamstrings.
This bitch could squat.
I say that all the time.
I just don't work out enough, I guess.
I like girls with legs that look like they can carry shit.
Yeah.
It's hot.
Yeah.
Do you like to be carried?
Girls who squat.
No, I'm heavy.
If a girl's carrying me around, she's going to get tired.
But I like girls that are athletic
That have power
I like it
It's hot
So if a girl's got a big ass
Because she's squatting
That's hot
If a girl's got a big ass
Because she went through surgery
I'm like bitch you're gonna get cancer
Yep
They're getting ass cancer now
Do you know that?
Wait
Yes
From the implants
From implants
Yes
They're starting to see Cases of butt cancer
Whoa Jack
That's what you like
That's what I'm talking about son
Bro that is
That's power
No that's too strong for me
Oh don't be scared
I'm afraid of that
That girl will hurt you
She will
Yeah that is
That's like trying to fuck
A crossfitter's fist
You know what I'm saying
Like the power
That she must have in that
Bro look at that leg, dude.
Fantastic.
That's just a hawk.
Outstanding.
I mean, the butt cheeks are nice.
It's the thigh meat that's too much.
She's an athlete.
I like it.
Yeah, I don't know.
I like that.
If that girl's in a miniskirt, but if she's not flexing, she probably looks hot as fuck.
So you're into a very strong...
Yeah.
I like good jeans.
This guy has the other ones, Jamie.
I mean, this girl has massive quads. She's stacked. I like good jeans. This guy, the other ones, Jamie, I mean,
this girl has massive stacked.
That girl stacked.
The only problem with those gals is that there is a reality to certain levels of musculature
that most likely they're only achieved by injecting male hormones.
So the clits kind of get big or whatever.
A little bit.
Have you,
have you never seen that? Are you allowed to like fuck around? What's your relationship with your wife? Definitely not. No, no. Okay. So the clits kind of get big or whatever A little bit Have you A little bit
Never seen that
Are you allowed to like fuck around
What's your relationship with your wife
No no no
Definitely not
No no no
Okay
Okay how long have you been married
Ten years
Ten years
Almost
Close enough
Yeah
Okay
And then how do you
Yeah how do you
How do you jack off
Navigate that
No no
Yeah
Could you please explain to me
How do you do this masturbation thing
How do you do that
Wait
What do you jack off
Exactly
How does it work
Okay
Yeah This level of athleticism Like I was saying Yeah Please explain to me how you do this masturbation thing. What do you do? What do you jack off? Exactly. How does it work? Yeah.
This level of athleticism, like I was saying, there's a certain line that they are crossing
that most likely is because of male hormones.
Yeah, I can't get into it.
There's some level to that.
Do they grow some hair?
Jiu-jitsu girls, there's a lot of jiu-jitsu girls that are competitive jiu-jitsu girls
that start doing a little bit of steroids.
They start taking a little bit of testosterone.
Like a friend of mine's wife was doing it, and I was like, yikes.
You saw the difference.
Yeah, she's really getting into jiu-jitsu.
She's competing, and she's starting to take a little bit of testosterone.
I was like, okay.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You know what happens, though?
What?
They get horny.
Really?
Like a dude.
Really?
Yeah.
But they got this big dangling clip.
No, no It only gets big when they go whole hog
Like when they go bodybuilder
How big?
When they go bodybuilder
It gets big
Back in the day
Way back in the day
No no no
Never fucked a girl who was a bodybuilder
Never once
Never
No
Did fuck a girl who was like
Like very fit and strong
But she had a normal vagina
Normal clit
Totally normal clit
Yeah
She had a six pack though
It's kind of weird Okay yeah it's a little she was strong it's not feminine it's not it's not
feminine but this clit thing fascinates me so the clit it just is there like is that you can't put a
picture of that up can we look at that no yeah no you don't can you pull it up well that doesn't you
know what it is a little dick it's like a little dick that's what i'm wondering does it have like
the head and like the ridge yes oh yeah yeah fuck yeah, yeah, yeah. Get the fuck out of here, bro.
Are you saying you've never looked in large clits?
You've never done that?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Hold on.
You've never done a Google search?
Bro, I looked fake pussies.
I looked up like tranny pussies, but I didn't look up.
And those look-
That's not good.
What do you mean?
The tranny pussy.
What do you mean they're not good?
It's not good.
It's not real.
Yeah, I know it's not real, but you want to be able to tell.
Can you tell?
No, but I feel like we should put a watermark.
Okay, this is what they look like.
Bro, there's a dick going inside a nut.
Bro, that one is crazy.
Look at that one down there.
Bro, that's fucking nuts.
Yeah, that's what happens.
That's not real.
Yo, it is real.
It is real.
There's no way.
No, no, no, it is real.
There's no way.
How about that one in the lower right-hand, upper right-hand corner? There's no way. The no it is real There's no way How about that one In the lower right hand
Upper right hand corner
There's no way
The dark one
Jamie
No below that
That one
Pow
How you like me now
That's a dick
She has balls
Yeah
No no that's pussy lips
That girl has balls bro
That's not a girl
That's pussy lips
Doug
That's pussy lips
Now that one down there
What about the giant one
Below that Jamie
The one in the middle
What's happening there No bro That just looks like A witch finger That might That's pussy lips. Now, that one down there, what about the giant one below that, Jamie? The one in the middle?
What's happening there?
No, bro.
That just looks like a witch finger.
That is gnarly, man. Do you think that that's Photoshopped?
That has to be Photoshopped, dude.
Dude, this is un-fucking-real.
Might be a hermaphrodite.
Some freak porn mixture.
Oh, my God, bro.
Whoa, dude. Freak porn Yeah Oh my god bro Whoa dude
Well
When girls
Take a lot of testosterone
They do develop
Enlarged clits
There was a
A show
On HBO
Back in the day
I think it was called
Private Dicks
But it was like
That girl's jacked
You're into that though?
No
That's a little much
Yeah
That's a little much
She looks like Dillashaw
That's hilarious She's pretty She looks like Dillashaw That's Larith
She's pretty looking though
She wasn't flexing
Tell her to eat a couple sandwiches
Anyway
Let's get out of there
That's enough
We're gonna start vomiting
Dude
But anyway
There was a show on HBO
Called Private Dicks
Okay
And one of the people on it
I think that was from that show
But anyway
There was this lady who was talking about
She became a trans man
And through taking
Massive amounts of testosterone
Her clit grew she said to the size of a thumb
Yeah
Because they're taking
I don't even understand what's going on
Very high levels of testosterone
To sort of achieve that
They get hair on their face
Their voice deepens They get hair on their face.
Their voice deepens. Yeah, yeah.
You know, they get broader and thicker.
And they keep a lot of that, too.
I don't get it.
I don't understand.
So your clit is just a cock, essentially, right?
Well, not really.
It just resembles one.
I mean, if you looked at that, if my dick looked like that, I'd go right to the doctor.
I'd be like, what's happening?
Which one?
The long one that we were looking at?
The crooked one? Yeah, the witch's finger yeah with the joints yeah it seems
like joints it seems like a clit with no skin or a dick with no skin it has been skinned yes
bro that made me feel uncomfortable to look at it should imagine pulling a girl's panties down
that thing it happened to a friend of mine's ex-boyfriend
okay a friend of mine who i used to work with on a television show her she was telling me a story
about her ex-boyfriend met this girl and they're fooling around and they get back to her but and
she was pretty feminine but she had a clit like a pinky it's the way he described it and then he
pulled her pants down and then fucking panicked and then said oh my god i have to pick my friend
up at the airport fuck i can't believe this and he just ran that was his excuse is i gotta fucking panic
man the dude panicked he went into a full-blown panic and just ran out he couldn't deal with her
clit i mean it gets to a certain size where that's like yeah like if it's wrapped around her leg and
tied in a bow you're like hey or you gotta like kind of like push it to the side to insert you know what i mean you gotta hold it like a
handle while you're banging it's a joystick it's like the the reins on a horse like you're hanging
onto it where you're banging it oh it's like just the random shape of the human body
And how we've decided that this is what's appealing
Hourglass figure
The ass comes out, the tits are here
It makes it look like she's sexually viable
And she'll be good at
The big ass and all that fat around that area
Means she's got plenty of nutrients for the child
She's got wide hips
It means the baby's going to come out easy
All those things are directly connected to fertility so we're not objectifying them at all
well we are but it's nature that's caught like there's a reason why the standard that men are
after when it comes to women is directly connected to them being we think you're going to make some
kids yeah so me thinking you have
great you know hips or tits or something like that is efficient yeah it's not sexist it's not
hateful it's not uh in any way objectifying or maybe we're supposed to objectify to create
people i think there's that too but then there's also like if a girl's in really good shape, one of the things that you admire is that that girl's got, she's got discipline and power.
Like a girl's hitting the gym all the time and working out.
That's a girl who gets things done.
Like if you see a girl and she's lazy and her body is just like soft, doughy, she's like skinny fat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, oh, you're going to complain a lot.
You're going to need a lot of naps.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
You're blowing up after this kid. You're not getting after it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? You're blowing up after this kid.
You're not getting after it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're not out there getting things done.
You're going to want to be sad.
You're going to want to complain.
You're going to want to stay home and stop.
But is that biological or is that us being smart?
You think it is?
Yeah, there's something biological to it.
Your body rejects that because you know that this girl, like if the shit hits the fan and
a fucking apocalypse comes, you got to take your children and go to the mountains right this girl's gonna be tired all the time she's gonna
complain she's gonna weigh you down she's not gonna carry her own weight i like a gal who can
carry her own weight right and you can't do that if you're carrying a big old clit
babe hurry up you're dragging your clit all over the rocks You got leaves stuck to it Shit Cause it's sticky
It looked like a dog's dick
You know when a fucking dog gets hard
Bro
Oh no
That's what it looked like
Oh no
Imagine if women had dicks
And men had pussies
And we were just really into big dicks
Dude
Just as possible
Absolutely
Just as possible
It's called gay guys
But not just No The arbitrary shape of humans Don't they like big dicks It's called gay guys But not just
No
The arbitrary shape
Don't they like big dicks
It's just strange
Yeah we got
It's strange what we're attracted to
Seahorses
Right
Isn't the male seahorse
Have a pussy
Well the male seahorse
Accepts eggs from the female
There's actually a video of it
Sounds pretty gay to me
Sounds pretty fucking gay bro
I don't know if you're accepting eggs
Yeah
She pours her eggs into a sack in his body
It's very strange
You get nutted in bro
And it looks like they're kissing while they do it
It's really weird
Alright I'm okay with the kissing shit
Have you seen it?
Oh you got a video of it?
Oh yeah
Here it is
It puts shit in perspective when you look at the
What a weird fucking animal a seahorse is anyway
Yeah
Like what a strange little creature
It's so weird I think that's why we like nature
stuff because it like it puts in perspective how fucked up humans are look at that he's just
busting off dude that's that's her him is that him giving birth dude that's how i come with
wow look at that kickback fucking shotgun dude i come the opposite way i go forward i don't back
out i feel like if you back out it's like pulling back on a punch.
Yeah, but you got two kids.
Imagine if one of those ones gets stuck in there.
One of them little baby seahorses is like, ah, I'm in here forever.
Shit.
Because the last of them is like one or two at a time.
So you're like, one guy.
Boom.
It's the last drop, dude.
He keeps pumping, but there's nothing coming out.
Okay, those are babies or those are sperm?
Babies.
Those are babies.
So we didn't see them have sex with each other.
I think the baby hatches inside of his body.
Yeah, that's crazy, dude.
Thank God we don't got to do that.
Imagine.
What a drag.
Did your wife do natural?
No. See? Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no. Imagine all the What a drag Did your wife do natural? No
See?
Oh no no no
No no no
Wait
How'd she get it out?
Oh I mean natural
Natural
But like out of the badge
Yeah yeah yeah
Epidural man
The c-section thing
They have to
I mean with some women
It's imperative
They have to do it
Like maybe they have small hips
Right
You date one of those
Like a little girl
Date one of them
Big giant dudes
Gorilla fucks you
You know what I mean? And then you got a giant baby Inside you And a little girl, date one of them big giant dudes, a gorilla fucks you. You know what I mean?
And then you got a giant baby inside you and a little tiny pussy.
You love that shit, bro.
I can tell.
You fucking love it, bro.
I'm just, I am fascinated by it.
Like, have you ever seen that guy, the guy from Game of Thrones?
The guy with his, the mountain with his wife.
Is his girl tiny?
She's tiny?
Oh, dude. Get the mountain up. She weighs three pounds. The mountain with his wife. Is his girl tiny? She's tiny? Oh, dude.
Get the mountain up.
She weighs three pounds.
Let's see the chick.
She's smaller in comparison to him
than my eight-year-old
is in comparison to me.
No.
Yeah.
Look at that.
Oh, he is smoking that, dude.
How is that humanly possible
that that works?
She's this beautiful
little tiny creature
and he's one of the biggest human beings on the planet.
Yeah, but do you think that he's packing?
I don't think he's packing.
What are you talking about?
You think he's got a big piece?
He's got a dick like everything else you see on him.
If he didn't have a dick like that, you'd be stunned.
The size of his hands, his shoulders.
He probably has a small seal in his pants.
He's got a t-shirt it's a strong motherfucker uncircumcised dick yeah big giant fucking anteater yeah elephant trunk that's that's oh wow i don't know bro i don't know if
he got the piece man you're out of your mind why would you get that big if you had a piece like
he's a savage he's from fucking Iceland
that's what they do
there are different humans
out there man
those are vikings
yeah
there's a reason why
he's that big
no bullshit
that is viking DNA
it's just the best DNA
from the world
thousands of years ago
guys like him
would be on a boat
with a fucking dragon
on the front of the boat
and they'd have a sword
and they couldn't wait
to jump off that fucking boat
and start hacking people to bits yeah that's why that guy exists that's why he's so big yeah yeah
and you just took the best genetics from wherever you stopped that's why iceland vice did a whole
piece on iceland okay about all the strongmen competition winners that live in iceland okay
they're all vikings man it's viking dna really a hundred percent okay but isn't viking dna okay we went to
italy we raped some chicks in italy we bring them back yeah they bring back the best women but
they're the ones who survive all these battles this is time tested they're swinging axes at
other dudes swinging axes the ones who survive we're all big Yeah that's true These guys are so big man
You gotta read this article
That Vice did
On these strong men
In Iceland
Okay
It's crazy bro
Yeah yeah
There's a whole country
Filled with gorillas
Big white gorillas
That are just
Smashing pussy
And lifting weights
And throwing
Fucking beer barrels
Over the top of train link fences.
That's huge.
There's a,
apparently there's an app in Iceland
to make sure you don't fuck your family member.
Dead ass, bro.
Because there's only,
there's only like 300,000 people, right?
On the island.
Right.
So everybody,
not everybody,
a lot of people are very related.
So you can like type your name in
and it will say,
oh, Jorgensen, oh, Jorgensen.
Oh, Jorgensen.
We're second cousins.
Maybe not.
Fuck.
Oh.
Looks like.
That's how I would come.
I'd just.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
With a drum by the bed.
I'd have a dude beating a drum to give me a pace.
While you're pounding away.
Boom.
Boom.
To give me a pace to go to.
Yeah.
Damn.
That's a crazy race of humans, man.
You ever go there?
No, no.
I'd like to go there just to see the Northern Lights.
It's one of the things that I've been thinking that I need.
Have you been?
Yeah.
You saw the Northern Lights?
I did stand up there.
What is it?
Oh, you did?
Yeah, I saw the Northern Lights in Alaska.
It's harder in the city when you're in the city.
But yeah, they love stand up there.
I think their president or something was a huge Stanhope fan. What they're like good stand up too yeah yeah make sure i'm not
misquoting but like apparently i think he was a like a massive uh doug stanhope fan and um
yeah the audience they were good man they like know english they're like
apparently the kfc there they have kfc if one kfc oh it's popular as fuck well the rules for food are super like
high so it's like the best chicken tenders you've ever had oh because they don't let processed
bullshit none of that right but it's still kfc so you could do that when you have a country that
has as many people as boulder colorado right that's the thing people don't get like when you
gotta feed 300 million people it's like we're gonna gmo some shit right yeah like we're gonna
use corn it's 300 million people it's a lot million people, it's like, we're going to GMO some shit, bro. We're going to use corn.
It's 300 million people.
It's a lot of people.
Yeah.
It's like when a mom has nine kids.
It's like, there's going to be some grits.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, McDonald's is going to work.
But yeah, Iceland was a shit, and the Northern Lights.
You look at Northern Lights, and you're like, oh, I completely get why people believed in God.
Oh, yeah.
You can't not.
Does that make sense?
Sure.
You look in the sky and it's
painting itself yeah you're gonna believe what did they think it was back then had to be the
gods dancing i wonder what they thought i wonder what explanation they had for the northern lights
how do you not like years ago i don't know man sometimes the more i like look at i was raised
without any religion but like the more i look at it now, I think it's just people trying to explain.
It was like people just-
Jesus, look at that.
Is that a real color?
It's from Minnesota, yeah.
Yeah, you can see it.
Wow.
But go to another one.
For me, I didn't experience it like that.
Travis Nowitzki.
It's more just like-
Why do I know that name?
Dirk Nowitzki, you're probably thinking of.
No, I've heard that name too, Travis Nowitzki. Is probably thinking of no I've heard that name too Travis Nowitzki
is he um
what does that guy do
is he just a famous photographer perhaps
try to
yeah photography by Travis Nowitzki
yeah I think that's what it is
I think I think I've seen his
yeah I think he does a lot of nature
shit
yep how could you not dude like how can you how do you blame anybody for I think I've seen his, yeah. I think he does a lot of nature shit.
Yep.
How could you not, dude?
How do you blame anybody for believing in something bigger than yourself? Oh, just a lightning storm, man.
A hurricane.
We live in big cities.
This shit is not real.
You live in the Bahamas and you see the power of a fucking hurricane.
It puts things in perspective.
You know how important we think we are that goes away when you know at the blink of an eye your house everything you work for is
gone because of wind wind and water holy shit that shit right there look at that picture that's
where it's crazy wow it says northern the lights now appear in central europe this is because of
climate change well isn't it supposed to get hotter?
I don't know what that means.
Like, why is it saying?
Go to that article.
Why is it saying that?
Northern Lights now appear.
What does it say?
Scroll down.
Roll.
Scroll down.
No.
It says Europe and much of the U.S.
Central Europe and much of the U.S.
I didn't know that much of the U.S. says Northern Lights.
You can see them in Ohio sometimes.
Alaska.
You can see the North.
You've seen it?
I have not, but I'm.
I mean, the other picture you showed.
There are in Minnesota.
You fucking Ohio people doing ass in the parking lot, seeing lights in the sky.
Yeah, there's that fucking big storm is hitting central U.S. today, right?
They got fucked in like Denver.
What do they call it?
A bomb.
Why do they call it a bomb cyclone It's clickbait
Marketing
Marketing
It's good marketing dude
Is it a bomb
Like why are they
Calling it a bomb
You're gonna read
Art Bowl as a bomb
Yeah right
Bombs are scary
Dude marketing's
Fucking everything
I thought this shit
Like when we were
Just talking about
The uncircumcised
Like that
Even that term
Is so dumb
Right it's a normal dick
Yeah Yeah that's what it is It's a normal dick. Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
It's a dick.
Why don't we, why would we even use that?
Yeah.
Right.
Well, what's crazy is that it's more common to be cut.
It's more common that a dick is sliced off when you're a baby.
Yes.
They take the cap off than it is.
And then when it's not,'re like what's why didn't
your parents cut your cock when you were born what about that why do you have the blanket over the
top of the head cut that off expose that dry that head out yeah weird yeah it's marketing man you
get people to believe anything it's like you got to grow it into them you know it's there's this uh
i feel like i tell this story every single time i'm talking on a them you know there's this I feel like I tell this story every single time
I'm talking on a podcast
but like
there's this great thing
about how
Nescafe broke into
the Japanese market
have you heard about this?
no
and it's like
they went to this consultant
they're asking him
how do we get in
and he's like
you can't get in
and they're like
what do you mean?
he's like
it's gonna be 15 years
they're like
what are you talking about?
and he goes
well
they don't know
what the fuck coffee is
over there
okay
you're trying to be tea
you're not tea
so what you're gonna do is you're gonna make be tea, you're not tea. So what you're going to do is you're going to make a cartoon,
and you're going to spend a few million on that,
and then you're going to make a candy based on a cartoon,
and then that candy is going to be flavored as coffee.
And when these kids grow up,
they're going to have this memory of coffee
and the flavor of the smell of coffee.
And I think last week they just opened the biggest
starbucks in the world in tokyo and these people devour coffee like no other and the idea is like
the takeaway for me the reason why i tell the story all the time is like change comes from
underneath you know is this how they approached it they actually did it that way that's that's
that's the same guy the consultant rapai i think his name is and he's a book or something i'll call the culture code my buddy's doing like a series with him trying to
break it down but the the idea is like if you want to change any it's the same reason why i did my
shit on youtube is like if you want to change any industry or something like that it's never going
to come within the traditional structure you know i mean it's like i would never be able to do the
type of jokes i was doing on on maybe you are
and the bigs can but me they'd be like i don't that jokes about you know trans people you can't
do that etc so it's like if i want to make it okay i got to do it outside you know i have to go a
little bit outside of the industry and make it okay and the way they were thinking was hey let's
get underneath and just fucking grow these ideas in i feel like that's why we fight wars over ideas all the time.
It's like people understand, oh shit, if people start believing in socialism or whatever the new thing they want us to be afraid of now,
they believe in it and it sounds good enough, they'll want it.
So we got to nip this in the bud in Vietnam.
Yeah.
You know?
There's a little bit of that.
I mean, Vietnam is super complicated.
Depending on who you ask, most likely it was about heroin.
The whole war, you think?
A lot of it.
Yeah, a lot of it was about the heroin trade.
Billions and billions and billions of dollars controlling the heroin trade.
Really?
Yeah, 100%.
More so than the spread of this ideology.
A lot of Afghanistan is about the heroin trade.
My understanding was, yeah, I understood that a little bit more.
Heroin ramped up radically look there's all sorts of positive aspects to uh most of the ideas that they push
right right there's positive aspects of trying to stop terrorism there's positive aspects to
trying to stop radical fundamentalists from taking over parts of the world and radicalizing segments of the
population and making these terrorist cells and attacking cities and doing a lot of things that
we know really do happen. That's true. But what's also true, it's a hotbed for heroin. So it's a
win-win. There's a Geraldo Rivera segment on Fox News where Geraldo Rivera was talking to soldiers who were guarding poppy fields,
and they were explaining that the U.S. soldiers had to guard the fucking heroin
because this is how they got these Afghani farmers to cooperate
against the radical fundamentalists that were running these religious sects.
Watch this shit.
Put the headphones on.
Look at this.
Fighting the opium trade.
The executed invasion of Marjah, this town in the middle of Helmand province, was the
easy part.
The hard part now is governing this province, a province, as you suggest, that has become
addicted to opium in many, many ways.
That is the principal crop that is being grown here.
The Taliban lend the farmers the money. They are indebted to the Taliban. They have to grow the
opium. Now the Marines in their success are in a sense a victim of their success because now the
population is, you know, they have these opium fields and we are tolerating it. We are tolerating
the cultivation of the opium because we know that if we were to destroy it now,
the population would turn against the Marines, and it would be a real security risk.
Let me introduce Lieutenant Colonel Brian Christmas.
He's the commanding officer of the 3rd Battalion, 6th Marines.
Really a wonderful group of Marines here.
Is this okay to play on YouTube, or is this going to be a problem?
Let's pull this now.
Stop now. Stop now because they're getting heavy handed against copyright violation.
This is interesting because this is the gray area we're talking about.
This was early in the war.
I mean, this is like, what was that from?
I want to say that was probably from 2005.
Yeah, dude, this is.
Doesn't?
Yeah, this is the gray, right? gray right this is hey this is how a country
makes its money there's it's not just that someone's profiting there's fucking billions
for their gdp some one is profiting i do not know where the money's all going but there are
billions of dollars involved in heroin right billions people are
buying it all over the world 90 something percent of it comes from afghanistan do the math just do
the math we're still there i mean sturgill simpson wrote a bit about it or wrote a song about it
and they played that song on saturday night live and i don't even think they knew what
the fuck the song was about right i mean he's up there playing a song about the government being
involved in the heroin trade i mean it's does there's something to it there's some and you say
oh it's a conspiracy theory stop stop there really is billions of dollars in heroin being grown in Afghanistan.
The production of heroin really did ramp up considerably after the U.S. invasion.
Is it possible that this is their commerce?
Country singer goes on SNL, exposes Afghan heroin trade, and no one even noticed.
That's my boy, Sturgeon Simpson.
But is it possible that this is their commerce?
In the same way like
Some communities fish
This community plants poppies
And they
Perhaps
What are they doing
With all that money
That's the question
Buying more goats
Are they getting
What are they doing
Afghani goats are delicious
Have you heard
No
I don't know what they're doing
I don't know
I just can't imagine
Someone
Is not getting a cut of this.
And I can't imagine that there's no mainstream investigative work that's being done to sort of expose us.
I don't know.
I mean, I might be wrong.
Forget the cut.
Why not?
Maybe these farmers are not making all the money.
Maybe the money's all going to drug dealers and we let that happen.
That'd be fucked up.
It'd be cool if they got it, but like,
look, the world is fucked, bro.
Like, this shit ain't peaches and cream, man.
It's like every time I see one of these stupid
Senate hearings where they're like, did you do some bad
things in South America? It's like, yeah.
Yeah.
Bad shit happens. When Trudeau
was involved in that thing in, like, what is it?
Libya? You know, like when they were
bribing, you hear about this? Trudeau from from canada yeah there's this big scandal up there in canada
because he was involved you know with this company which is a quebec company that was
that paid like 36 million dollars to bribe the libyan government for like some contracts and
it's like well yeah that's how shit gets done over there you bribe the government for contracts
and these people in the canadian government like how could he this is against his policies it's like no no welcome to the real world
you're operating in the one percent of the world which has these rules we just made the fuck up
of fairness and equality and equity and all this bullshit it's like the real world is hey i'd like
to do this can i give you some money and we make it happen the real world is, hey, I'd like to do this. Can I give you some money and we make it happen? The real world is Geraldo Rivera walking through heroin fields talking to a general.
That's the real fucking world.
Yeah.
There's a lot of that.
Yeah.
I mean, it would be nice if everywhere was like America.
But I don't know if it, that's what's really fucked up, right?
Like with this Fairphone shit.
I don't know if that gets done.
like with this Fairphone shit,
I don't know if that gets done.
I don't know if you get an iPhone unless it's getting made
by someone who's making $5 a week.
I don't know if you do.
And if you do get it,
how much does it cost?
Tons.
What is it, like $3,000?
How much does it cost?
How much is an iPhone?
Who's going to pay that?
Like, you're already struggling.
You already got two kids.
You know what I mean?
Like, you bills to pay. Like, you're going to spend $3,000 when you're already struggling. You already got two kids. You know what I mean? Like, you bills to pay.
Like, you're going to spend $3,000 when you're already struggling.
We're operating from a place where we have some excess.
People are trying to make it every day here.
They don't give a...
That's why the election shit is so simple to me.
Like, the Democrats are going to offer money and Republicans are going to offer jobs.
And you see it happening right now.
It's like every platform for the dems on some level is here's
some money hey we should look into reparations here's some money your boy yang who's on here
how long we just give everybody a thousand dollars here's some money yeah just giving money
right yeah let's break up facebook and well that's one of the reasons why for hard-working
people the republicans are so attractive even though a lot of people they fall into a lower income community like that
they're not these rich cats they would think they would be looking to have you know like
big business succeed but the message is that you roll up your sleeves and you get to work
and that you work hard you don't get a free ride and they like that that's also one of the reasons why people that are Republicans
are more likely to be involved
in churches and a lot of church going
organizations because that's where their
community comes from and community support
instead of getting community support from the
government they get community support
from local churches
so you have your support
you have your
we all need that man
that's something that
really is missing with atheists yes community yeah and they're miserable yeah they're i've
never met this happy atheist it's like they're vegans it's like stop convincing me that god
doesn't don't if you believe it we're good. You don't need to convince me. Right.
If you are trying to convince me, it's because you don't believe it.
Well, it's not that they don't believe it.
It's just that they're overzealous.
Dude, people who are overzealous are overcompensating for something, right?
A lot of times.
What are you overcompensating for with God?
Because you know shit is bigger than you.
Because you fucking look up sometimes and you're looking at the stars and you're like fuck something's up i don't know what
it is i don't know if it's god i don't know if it's aliens i don't know what's going on but you
are minuscule yeah and that's hard for people to take man it's like but you think that's why they're
really into pushing atheism i think it's because the religion that they they see is so offensively
stupid i mean look there was a funny thing that happened the other day where pete davidson did a I think it's because the religion that they see is so offensively stupid.
I mean, look, there was a funny thing that happened the other day where Pete Davidson did a joke on SNL about the Catholic Church, and the Catholic Church demanded an apology.
Right.
Forgive him.
Yeah.
You're the forgiveness people.
Why do you need an apology?
How about he made a joke about child molesting, and you guys are the number one kid fucking
organization in the world.
How about stop worrying about jokes
And paying attention to the fact that
You basically run a kid fucking organization
That also sells Jesus
KFF
Kid fucking factory bro
That's what it is man
In a lot of ways
And
But at the same time
There's the gray area
Because they do a lot of fucking good
Yes
They save a lot of people's lives
They feed a lot of people
Right
Yep So it's
like they they give people community they give people a place to connect yes yeah we're in the
most connected time in history and we're the most fucking disconnected think about that we've got a
million friends on you know facebook and all these other things and people are lonely because we're
connected with electronic devices connected and we're not that connected with life. Right.
And we're connected to outcome.
Right.
We're connected to,
oh, did this picture I post get enough likes?
Yeah.
Right.
That's where they really
fuck people,
with likes.
Once they figured out
how to get people
like supremely addicted
to interactions
and exchanges
and likes,
man.
Dude,
you know when,
like,
you know movies
in the morning morning you wake up
and you smoke a cigarette right like that was what the movies we watched coming up like that
was the first thing that the badass or something like that did in the movie wake up roll over
undo the pack you know whatever it will be look at your phone's mentions there's gonna be some of
that that's gonna be what these characters do yep yep so it's like what do you do you got kids do you
take do you say no how do you how do you teach your kid i don't have kids i don't know but like
i think about this all the time how do i teach my kid to not put his whole fucking value in the hands
of get him involved in sports because you learn Yeah You learn reality You learn reality Yeah You
If you don't get that ball
In the net
It does not score
You know
There's no points for effort
Yeah there's no
You don't
It doesn't work that way
You gotta learn
What real life is
And you gotta learn
That
There is
It feels uncomfortable
To fail
But that uncomfortable
Feeling that you get is fuel.
Will you let your kids fail?
Will you let them fall on their face?
They fall on their face all the time.
My kids do sports.
They've been involved in athletics in some form, whether it's martial arts or gymnastics, since they were little.
They do things that are difficult.
We do stuff as a family that are difficult.
We do escape rooms. We play games. We do things that are hard. I stuff as a family that are difficult We do like escape rooms
We play games
We do things that are hard
I don't let them win
Good
Yeah
I mean my little one I let her win sometimes and stuff
Like we play carnival games against each other or something like that
I'll let her
Carnival games?
Yeah like go to like Circus Circus
Like when I was in Vegas
I was in Vegas for this thing that my daughter was doing
So I took my youngest daughter to Circus Circus
Playing these carnival games.
Okay.
I let her beat me a bunch of times.
Shh, don't tell her.
But that's, we're having fun.
We're just laughing, being silly, talking trash to each other too.
Yes.
She high fives me and stuff.
It's fun.
But I think there's value in learning that it sucks to lose.
Yes.
Because that makes you reassess
like what you did that the other person did better and how do I beat them?
Yeah.
It's like when we're talking about weed,
but weed making you nervous and makes you paranoid.
Like I like that.
What I like is look,
I'm entirely too successful.
I like,
I like to feel vulnerable.
I think there's a lot of good to that,
you know,
like legitimately.
I like that feeling because it makes me more connected.
It makes me more humble.
What do you mean you're too successful?
Well, you can only have so much success in this life before you start thinking that you're different than other people.
You know, you're thinking that you're something special.
Look, if you're on a path, right, if everybody's on a path and you start off here and then X amount of years later, you're something special no yeah it's you look if you're on a path right if everybody's on a path
and you start off here and then x amount of years later you're way away yeah you could start thinking
oh i'm better than all those motherfuckers yeah but you're not you're just you just have been
on this path longer and you haven't fallen off of it you've figured out what you need to do to stay
on that path we know a lot of people that were on the path at one time in their career and then
something happened and they lost their enthusiasm or their body wasn't as healthy or whatever the fuck happened and they
dropped off i'm still on that path why i'm because i figured it out what is it keep going keep going
don't be a pussy keep working improve objectively analyze your performance look at what you're doing
wrong treat everything with respect treat all of your
endeavors with focus and intensity and intention look at what you're doing and and pay attention
and do the work do the goddamn work do the writing do the performing you'll see me i'll do four or
five sets a night in la i'm doing 15 20 minutes half hour i'll do an hour here i'll go down the
ice house i'll do an hour ice house i'm go down to the ice house. I'll do an hour at the ice house.
I'm doing two shows at the ice house tomorrow night.
I go.
I go.
There's no excuses.
I go.
To me, the way I've got it set up, it's great.
My kids go to bed.
By the time my kids are in bed, I leave.
You're out.
I say goodnight.
I tuck them in.
I'm out the door.
I'm headed to the club.
I'm home in four hours. When I'm done done i get in front of the computer and i write i write
i get up in the morning i see him off to school go back to sleep or i go to the gym i get things
done keep moving yes gotta keep moving a shark my job is the task it's like my job is i'm trying like right now it's the most exciting time for me uh in my
career arc my uh my my comedy arc because my comedy arc is put out a special it's very exciting
when you're putting out a special but then the most exciting time is you know my special came
out in october so then those months afterwards where it's just mad rush to create a new a new hour yeah and solidifying
perspectives and honing material and uncovering new layers and looking at it and reanalyzing it
and stepping back and listening to it drunk and listening to it sober yeah and and and smoking
weed and going over it again and just spending time mashing the keys, spending time looking at the notes, all of that.
You can type your stuff?
Oh, yeah.
Really?
Yeah, I type.
It's very valuable to be able to type
because you can get out your thoughts way quicker than you can writing.
Yeah.
Writing makes you remember it better, though.
Right.
You remember it better when you write it down physically on paper.
So if you look at my notebooks, I'm like a maniac.
I write the same thing over and over and over again because i'm just writing down my sets yeah
writing down my bits and the key parts of the bit so that i have them solid in my brain yeah but
my writing in terms of like my most uh prolific creation of things that i never thought of before
comes out writing with a keyboard, writing on a
computer.
But can you write how you speak?
Nope.
But I don't have to.
So it's just-
I just have to come up with gems.
So the gem is here and then you flesh.
I write in essay form.
That's how I write.
Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes.
So say if I was going to write a bit about Geraldo Rivera and the poppy seeds, I would
smoke a joint and I would sit down and i would just go heraldo rivera with
his porn mustache strolling around these train killers in afghanistan wearing his goofy ass
fucking tie right i wonder how those dudes think and then i started thinking what are those dudes
think about strutting around puffing his chest out hanging around all these guys been blowing
people's brains out for the last six months protecting america while they're also simultaneously protecting heroin like what the
fuck kind of feeling is that when your boy gets shot protecting a fucking heroin field and it
doesn't even make it into the paper and then i'll just start going and going and going and going and
i might type out a few thousand words and then when i go back i might have two lines right or uh or a seed then i'll take that
seed on stage and then i'll try to see if i could water that bitch or if it's toxic right i don't
know you don't know how long will you give the toxic bit depends depends on the bit some bits
are just juicy right out of the box some bits you just start them up and you're like oh we got one
kids yeah yeah you know and what about the ones. But what about the ones that don't work but you know there's something there?
How long will you seed it?
How long will you water it?
Depends on how intense it is.
It depends on what's there for me.
Like I had this bit about Bruce Jenner, like what really happened with Bruce Jenner.
Okay.
And I had to try to figure out how do I make fun of this guy becoming a woman?
How do I do this?
How do I figure out how to do this?
And the way to do it for me was to make fun of myself living with all women.
Because I have a wife and I have three daughters and it's like all this feminine energy around me and that they diminish my manhood.
So that I had this like that I've never been happier but yeah i've never been more of a bitch in my life
and i had this whole long path and then it got to you know i've never been more of a bitch in my
life but i'm telling you this i'm not going out like bruce jenner boom and the whole thing was
someone's gotta fucking say it i go yeah everyone's like oh he's a woman trapped
in a man's body
I'm like maybe
maybe
or
maybe
if you live with crazy bitches
long enough
you fucking become one
okay
and then I
then I got into this whole bit
about the
the Kardashians
becoming like these gargoyles
and hovering over his bed
and talking to him
while he's sleeping
and he's
it's like but I had to figure out a way to do that bit right it took a long time yeah there's a uh
that's something i would love people i would love for people to know i mean i do this i do this show
called inside jokes where i just get comics to come and we we take our most divisive premises
that don't work and we work it out together yeah and Yeah And it'll be so cool to do it with you man
We'll do it I'll definitely do it
You know Chris Rock went through that
With his probably one of his most famous bit
Right
One of his most famous bits is
I love black people I hate n-words
So that bit is one of his
Most popular all time bits
He told me he bombed with that for a year
Yeah
A year Yeah But Chris is a fucking workhorse most popular all-time bits he told me he bombed with that for a year of yeah a year yeah said he
couldn't get it to work yeah but chris is a fucking workhorse some people don't know about
chris man like this is a great story that exposed everything about him he was filming his special at
the apollo in new york and um there was an after party for his own special that he left so that he
could go work on that set at the strip wow so that's work yeah right you gotta do man the guy didn't
become one of the biggest stand-ups of all time but it seemed like the shit kev works yeah he's
out there it makes you tired exhausting yeah yeah we get it you can jog yeah yeah it's like
with him it's like he's like our joke version of the rock you know you know what i'm saying like because you fucking
never never ends it's all private jets and hitting the gym and yeah and fucking concerts in front of
50 million people he's it's the same shit man like this isn't an accident and the ones who
would when it is an accident they get exposed the ones that are faking the funk boy that's the
reason why netflix took out the fucking thumbs up thumbs down the funk boy that's the reason why Netflix took out the fucking
thumbs up
thumbs down
you know
all that shit
remember when they
they like
because there was a few
of those specials
that look
there's specials
that have been on
comedy
on HBO
I don't know what
you're talking about
there's been ones on
YouTube
YouTube is interesting
because they still have
this thumbs up
thumbs down
you know which people do game but the still have this thumbs up, thumbs down, which people do game.
But the reality of that thumbs up, thumbs down is you get to see what the fuck people really think.
Absolutely.
To a certain extent.
I think it's 100% bullshit at this point.
Come on.
It was useful, but now back to your point that you have a whole bit about.
How many thumbs up and thumbs down have you ever clicked on zero right yeah so a certain subset of the population is thumbs up
and thumbs down it's like well it's like people leave comments yeah yeah or write reviews for
fucking food right i think madrigal has a you've heard of madrigal's bit about that no
i forget like i don't want to butcher it but it's something about like someone left like a like a three out of five review and it's like who the fuck are you like i get if you loved it
right or you hated it right but the that's good to write about well some people fancy themselves
to be like foodies and a journalist you know exploring the subtle nuances of cuisine if you're hungry it's good it is but when you see
a guy like andrew zimmerman traveling around the world and doing that or you see anthony
bourdain or a lot of these people you think i want to be like that for culture though yeah right it
was like it was more than just food it was like what does this food say about the people some of
the other guy like like i mean i don't know what is it the weird food guy yeah i mean first of all he looks like a salmon and it's just weird to like just fucking stare
at this guy do you know what i mean like it's just odd it's just the whole thing is when you
look at him right yeah it's just i don't know he's making his way up a fish ladder he's trying
to get he's trying to get up the stream jesus Christ. Bro, he's a salmon. I would say a tuna.
Okay, he's got a little tuna in him.
Hmm.
Handsome fella.
Gorgeous.
Could be on a bill.
Anyway.
Yeah, I don't know why the fuck they're leaving these things.
But it's, you know, some people want a voice.
They invested so much money in certain things that were getting downlikes.
And I was like, all right.
Yeah.
Yeah. Like, I guess they were doing it with stars, and I was like, all right, let's... Yeah, yeah.
I guess they were doing it with stars, right?
Was it stars with Netflix?
Yeah.
Yeah, they pulled the star system.
Too bad I had a lot of motherfucking stars, bitch.
Yeah, people are going to watch yours regardless.
I think you give them an added value.
There's certain people that give Netflix the added value, and there's certain people that want the value from Netflix. But it's also they're documenting some of the greatest standup specials in the history
of standup.
There's like the Chappelle specials, the two recent ones that he did.
They're putting that stuff out there and they're doing it in a way where no one else would
do it.
Like HBO, which was the gold standard for the longest time, they would never do two
Dave Chappelle specials at the same time.
Netflix is like, okay.
We'll do.
Dave's like, I got this new shit I want to do.
I'm going to do it in the belly room at the comedy store.
You know, and Dave was so ridiculous about it.
Dave and I were downstairs while he was doing this, while he was filming this.
We were downstairs in the smoking area of the comedy store, getting high as fuck.
And he was so casual about it. He's like, hey, man, you want to do a set? in the smoking area of the comedy store, getting high as fuck. Yeah.
And he was so casual about it.
He's like, hey, man, you want to do a set?
You did a set on the bird?
I said, no, no, I just want to watch.
I said, no, no, I did three sets tonight.
I'm just going to chill and hang out in the back of the room.
But he was so relaxed.
Like, during his special being taped,
he's offering me a guest set.
He's like, hey, man, you want to do a set?
You know, he still shows up. He'll fly to places and show up and just do guest sets yeah i was in denver i come
out the green room it's friday night and chapelle's in the green room and i go hey man he goes hey joe
i go what are you doing it's my man i just felt like coming to denver i go you want to do a set
he's like oh yeah fuck it so i bring him up on stage the
audience is leaving they're leaving and i said come back yeah and they're like what yeah everybody
comes back he does 40 minutes yeah it was amazing because it's but he just that's how he's doing it
he's like he's doing it for the art he's not doing it because he's making any money loves he did a
free 40 minute show for these people that came there to see me yeah he fucking loves it and it's loves it and it's it's like true with him man he's a perfect example of
it just being true he'll show up monday night at the comedy store in front of 13 people yeah and
he'll go on stage he'll do a half an hour in front of 13 people and he'll drink and he'll smoke
cigarettes and he'll talk shit and laugh at his own jokes and everybody has like one of the most
magical experiences
as a
as a
audience member
you could ever have
I was young comic
in New York
and there was a place
called the Comedy Village
which was the Boston
do you remember the Boston
sure
so it became Comedy Village
when did it become the Village
it's done now
but now it's like
a Japanese restaurant
Japs restaurant
no
cut it Jamie cut it
no but
there's a and this is I'm like barking, asking people to come in off
the street.
Right.
How old were you when you started?
23, 23, 23.
Yeah.
And Chappelle comes in and when he gets on stage, there's probably 13 people in the crowd.
Right.
And the fucking word gets out and you just see people start slowly, there's probably 13 people in the crowd, right? And the fucking word gets out.
And you just see people start slowly – it's like goldfish, you know what I mean?
When they can send some little – or ducks or something like that when they send some breads coming in the pond.
And the place was packed within like 20 minutes.
Wow.
People outside.
It was just everybody texting their friend.
Oh, my God.
Chappelle's here.
It was so crazy.
And he did six hours.
What?
Bro.
What? Unreal, dude. Unreal. There were girls like falling asleep or something. Maybe four hours. Six hours? friend oh my god chapelle's here it was so crazy and he did six hours what bro unreal dude unreal
there were there were girls like falling asleep or something maybe four hours maybe four hours
something like that it was one of these long ones land it it it's it was jazz right it wasn't like
it wasn't like i'm doing bits and i'm murdering the whole time he has this ability to make the audience comfortable intention so that it is not anxiety inducing
right what what he can do is talk to you for five minutes straight without a punch line
yeah as an audience member you're not going oh my god is this guy is this guy not funny
well that was when he was he was doing that for a while and where he wasn't doing scheduled shows. All he was doing was these pop-ins.
And not only that, but he brought a fucking speaker and set up a microphone in the park in Seattle.
Outdoor.
Outdoor.
You know he did that early on.
Yeah, I was there.
I watched it.
I watched him do it in Montreal.
In New York or in Montreal?
I saw him do it in Montreal.
We did a set together At Club Soda And after we got outside
We went outside
And Dave
Just said
Gather round people
Gather round
And he started doing stand up
To people in the street
And they were like
What in the fuck
And he was probably like
20
So do you know
William Stevenson
Yeah
Comic rest in peace
Sure
Yeah just died recently
And he was one of the
Original like comedy
In the park guys
Doing stand up
In the park
Charlie Barnett was the original.
And Barnett, yeah, Barnett.
And Dave would go with those dudes.
Yep, yep, yep.
And can you imagine a more hostile environment for stand-up?
Than New York City Park.
Than New York City Park!
You're competing with guys doing front flips over Swedish tourists.
And then there's a guy just with jokes hanging on his
you know
handling his own
it's like
then you put him on a stage
with lights
and fucking mic
and a seat
and some cigarettes
that's
yeah
it's strength training
it's like running with weights on
so how do
the question is
how do we do that
like how do you find that
the more successful you get
when you have people
that are coming to see you
no matter what,
where do we get our strength training?
Where do we get our—
Smoke weed and get paranoid.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
That's what I got to do, though.
Feel vulnerable.
That's what I got to do.
You got to get vulnerable.
Lose control.
You got to feel scared.
Yeah, feel nervous.
I like it.
I really do.
I do it all—
I joke around on stage about how I take edibles when I go to the airport because I like feeling.
I want to know what the fuck's really bothering me.
But it's really true.
I really do do that.
I take an edible when I fly just so I can freak out.
Because you're too comfortable with this weird thing.
Get something out of that.
Yeah, get something out of that freaking out.
I'll find out where the holes in my game are.
I'll find out where my mental game is lacking.
What's really bothering me?
And then things that freak me out that I don't like about myself, I work on them.
I fix them.
I visit the wizard.
You've got to visit the wizard.
I wonder if this comes from having a fighting background because the one thing about fighting is if you have a hole in your game
it's exposed in the most brutal way yeah right everything else in life you can ignore the holes
in your game yep you can just be like oh i'm not a bad storyteller they were just busy i concentrate
on my strengths yeah boxing or fight whatever it is it's just like i better keep my hand up yep you better patch up
those holes bitch maybe that's what it is with standard yeah i think that's what it is with me
um just that's my formula i mean i don't recommend it to everybody because everybody doesn't have the
same personality like you might not have those same deficiencies like it actually might be
psychologically damaging to some people to get as high as i get you know like it might fuck with your head too much where you don't
come back from i come back like a nicer person but i'm in the same throes of fucking agony that
a lot of people are when they get too high so you're purposely yeah fucking yourself in my system
yeah i purposely freak myself the fuck out yeah and you don't think you'd be able to create
without it oh i definitely could but not as good i don't know if i can as good but i know it works
i like doing it i like doing it because uh i always benefit from it i feel like i come back
from those little paranoid journeys like a little bit of a better person and i think it's been
responsible along with other psychedelics and becoming a father all those things maybe a better
person maybe a nicer person maybe more compassionate more understanding more friendly well yeah more
understanding is the big one more more just i get it i you know i don't want to be confident all the time i don't want to always be
successful like like you know i mean it's just like good people listening right now that like
that's all they want but they haven't experienced the other side of the coin yeah do you know what
i'm saying but when people get too confident and then they have an audience right if you have an
audience that's part of the problem is we've all seen this when comics become really successful
they they work to their own crowd and they don't do sets.
They don't do a set like I'll do at the store or you'll do where there's like 10 people
on the line.
Right, right, right.
And they might be there to see D'Elia.
They might be there to see fucking Eliza.
They might not be there to see me at all.
Right.
But I want to hit those motherfuckers.
Yes.
I want to hit them hard.
And they want to go, oh, look at this meat you know look at this fucking chimp looking dude what's
he gonna say like you can't be smart and funny you can't be interesting whatever their biases is i
gotta figure out a way to soothe that over and the best way to do that is you got to perform in
hostile environments occasionally yeah you know this is all so critical man yeah so critical
have good openers.
Yeah.
Killers.
Killers.
I bring murderers with me on the road.
Only way to do it.
I bring Joey Diaz on the road with me, man.
I brought Joey Diaz on the road for years.
I would tell people they would get white in the face.
They'd be like, what?
Who opened for you in Dallas?
Oh, Diaz did.
Joey Diaz?
They'd get nervous.
Like, you brought Joey Diaz In front of 6,000 people
Joey Diaz
Opened for you
Yeah
And you ain't seen
Murderer
You ain't seen
Real murder
You ain't seen
Joey Diaz
At the Chicago theater
In front of 3,700 people
Yeah
And the fucking
Lights are dimming
Yeah
Like the lights are
He's fucking crushing so hard
People are falling down
Yeah
They're in pain
Yeah
In pain
Yeah You've never seen him live
i've really wanted to when i was in la i'll set it up how long are you down for i gotta go tomorrow
you're leaving tomorrow yeah is he around tonight i'll find out i would love to he might be he might
be doing a set at the store tonight i'll ask him man there's he's the goat in my opinion really
yep whoa i never seen anybody funnier whoa he's he might not be the best
writer he might not have the most consistently crafted hours but in terms of the highest highs
that motherfucker breaks through the magnetosphere and he wiggles out into the outer atmosphere of
space like no one he hits these highs where like comics comics work are crying like holding your stomach
crying and he's screaming and yelling and it's like you ain't seen nothing like it man he was
on stage i wrote about i put it on my instagram the other day he crushed so hard and i can't
even say what he was talking about I don't want to butcher it He crushes so hard
And with such
Controversial material
Unapologetic
Push
At one point in time people were like
What the fuck
He goes what do you want from me I'm almost dead
You think I give a fuck
And people were dying
I mean dying
I don't think there's ever been a person
I've seen everybody. I've seen everybody, dude.
I've seen everybody from Rock to Chappelle to Louis CK.
I watched Sam Kinison when he was alive.
I saw Bill Hicks when he was alive.
I opened up.
I had a follow prior when he was dying for five weeks in a row.
But I saw prior live.
I've seen everybody live.
I saw Martin Lawrence when he was in his prime. People forget how funny Martin Lawrence was. weeks in a row but i saw prior live i've seen everybody live i saw martin lawrence and he's
in his prime people forget how funny martin lawrence was he was destroyed i saw him back
when he was wearing leather jumpsuits he would go on stage realize man v-neck leather jumpsuits
and smash smash i would have to go on after him but i never saw anybody like Joey. Joey's on another level. Who's your toughest follow?
Joey.
Without a doubt.
Yeah, man.
You got to ride that wave.
But that's what's good about it.
It's like if you're funny and you're working on your stuff and you enjoy comedy, you go on stage already laughing.
So you go on stage already in a good mood.
That's what's up. Part of a tough tough follow is two things one you're used to going on after
scrubs and there's a lot of guys that are good comics but they like to bring scrubs in the row
with them and then they get settled in in that easy sort of i'm gonna save the show exactly
there's a lot of guys that do that man they'll take guys on the road with them that really are barely professionals.
And these guys are filling theaters.
And they're bringing weak acts.
And they force this audience to sit through a half an hour of bullshit before they go on stage.
And then there's guys who don't do it like that.
Look, I don't know who was doing it that way before i was
doing it but my thought was i like if a guy makes me nervous when i go on after him that's gonna
make me ramp it up like i don't i don't walk on stage cold i'm backstage throwing punches and
doing jumping jacks i'm doing breathing exercises when I come on stage I'm fucking guns blazing
Yeah
That's
And if you go on
After Joey Diaz
When he hits that crescendo
You better be ready
Bro
When you came into the store
I remember I was about
To ask you something
And you were on the wall
And then you just
Folded in half
And touched your toes
And I was like
What the fuck is going
I can barely touch my ankles
Bro
I was like
Alright this is ritual I'm gonna let him do his thing Before he gets on Yeah I could barely touch my ankles. All right, this is ritual.
I'm going to let him do his thing before he gets off.
Yeah, I loosen up.
Yeah.
Yeah, I get loose.
And I figured out that over time, you can just walk on stage and everything will be fine.
Yeah.
Or you walk on stage with already, you got some intention.
Yeah.
Sometimes I got to remind myself of certain things to get up there.
The most important thing I learned is reminding myself that this crowd
wasn't at the last show.
Yeah.
Like sometimes you can take that energy from the early show and you're just
bodying it and you're like,
Oh,
I got this.
Let's go.
Let's just walk right in.
They weren't there.
They didn't see you kill.
Can't do that.
Can't do that.
Yeah.
You know,
you gotta,
you gotta always,
always appreciate the audience's attention span.
And that's something that I've really learned from Boston.
In Boston, it's cold as fuck.
The women aren't the prettiest in the world.
Yeah.
And people are angry.
Yeah.
And they got to work in the morning.
You got to be ready on a Tuesday night.
I did this thing and it never got picked up, but I put it out as part of this series.
Essentially, it's like I emulated Bourdain's thing.
I wanted to look at a city through the lens of comedy instead of food right and i the first
city i picked was boston because all my favorite comics are from boston and i'm like why the fuck
has this city produced so much funny what is it immigrant people is that it yeah so they landed
no matter what type of funny yeah patrice o'neill's my goat Right So it's like But Patrice He's one of the goats for sure
You can do one
Bill Burr is too
One liners
Bill Burr
Whatever
Steven
Steven Wright
Steven Wright
Do you know what I mean
Conan is from the area
We're talking about
All different types of comedy
Silverman's I think
From New Hampshire
Or something like that
Right
But like
There's something about the region
That no matter what style
You see You're funny Come from here Yeah Where you're from right? But like, there's something about the region that no matter what style you see,
you're funny.
Come from here.
Where you're from,
area,
what part is it?
Newton.
Newton.
Boston.
You're actually,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
I started in Boston.
I knew you started there,
but I didn't know if you were from the city
or one of the outskirts.
Well,
I was born in New Jersey,
but I lived all throughout my high school years
and everything.
I lived in Boston.
So it's like,
what the,
what the fuck is it about this city
It's cold
It's cold as fuck
It's cold in Minnesota
There's something there man
Minnesota's too cold
You need to be warming up to talk to people
You need to be warming up before you go outside
Also
It's a scene
It's like a scene has to be established
too because boston does not have the scene it used to have in the 80s right but la has a better scene
than ever yes and scenes are fluid they come and they go you know like denver has a scene and they
have a scene because of wendy who who owns the comedy works yeah but there's there's different
places that have scenes and barry crimmins and lenny clark and steve sweeney and
don gavin all those guys that were part of the ding ho in the 1980s and steve was on my podcast
those guys created a scene and through that scene and because they were all competing with each
other for spots on the tonight show and all these different little venues they they created a a
monster dynamic where all these young guys were coming up following
these killers and i was very fortunate to be one of those guys and that's why i wanted to talk to
steve and tell him that on the show it's like i saw that fucking guy i saw that guy murder murder
to the woman no and nobody was watching in terms of like national audience. It was just Boston.
But he would go on stage at Nick's Comedy Stop and level the crowd.
Leveled it like a fucking hydrogen bomb dropped in the middle of the room.
Just boom.
So you learn what killing is.
Yeah.
I feel like one of the toughest things about the alternative scenes,
and I'm not knocking necessarily the comedy, but the litmus test for murdering is different.
When I was coming up in New York and and i had to follow you know rest in peace mike uh di stefano you know
grier barnes guys that maybe are not household names but people don't know grier grier is a beast
grier and i did shows together we did colleges together bro back on the road way in the 90s
if if you want to know at least for me if you want to know what
chapelle is chapelle is tony woods and greer he is a tony was another beast but tony is unfathomable
but like he is the gremlin that popped off of both of their backs like if you could mold them
together like everything that is amazing about tony and amazing about greer well i mean that's
how it is with music that's how it is with everything we need each other you know that's why when i see a guy
like you coming up i'm like oh good thank you i'm happy you're around i like it i like comedy
if i stop doing comedy tomorrow i want more comedy to watch i love a lot i love laughing
yeah i like that's why i tell you I sit down and watch Joey Diaz
I fucking love comedy
But the thing about Joey is
Joey has new material all the fucking time
You go see Joey now
And you see him four months from now
You'll see a whole new set
Yeah I gotta see Joey while I'm out here
He's the best man
You watch him
I'm gonna try to see if he's
Where's he at?
You guys have a show I think
Maybe I'll run over What time? Let me know if he's doing a spot. You watch him. I'm going to try to see if he's. Where's he at? You guys have a show, I think.
Maybe I'll run over.
When is he at?
Comedy store.
What time?
8 o'clock show.
Oh, he's on the 8 o'clock show?
Yeah.
You're on the 8 o'clock show.
But maybe he'll pop over. He'll probably be on later.
I'll find out when he's up.
Yeah.
Whose show's tonight at the comedy store?
He's on the show a year before.
The 8 o'clock version of the Skylar Sister show.
Oh.
Am I on that tonight?
10 o'clock, I think.
I am? Well, that's what it said. Oh. Am I on that tonight? 10 o'clock I think. I am?
Well that's what it said.
Okay.
Oh yeah I guess I am.
Alright.
I forgot.
Well I know I have a set
at the store.
I guess I have two.
Yeah I just gotta see them.
Let's wrap this up.
Andrew.
Thank you.
Here we go.
Skylar Stone.
Oh look at that.
I'm on that.
Interesting. Alright. Beautiful. Cool. Alright motherfuckers. Andrew Thank you Here we go Skylar Stone Oh look at that I'm on that Gang Interesting
Alright
Beautiful
Cool
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