The Joe Rogan Experience - #13 - Eddie Bravo

Episode Date: March 31, 2010

Joe sits down with Eddie Bravo. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Start recording, son. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the broadcast. Are we on? Yeah, we're on right now. Bitch. Let me get it so you can see it. If they had Twitter for like hooking up, call it twatter. Re-twat.
Starting point is 00:00:20 That's a terrible way to start off this show. No one heard that shit. What are you talking about? People are online right now. Dude, there's like 100 people online, I'm sure. Let's see how many people we got. 94 people. Did anybody hear that?
Starting point is 00:00:30 They heard that. That's a terrible goddamn joke. Wow, this is blocky as fuck. Look how goofy it looks. Serious fucking delay, too. What's happening, Eddie and Joe? When are we coming back to Philly? We'll be back to Philly eventually.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I don't know when the UFC's going to be back in Philly, but people have been calling for young Eddie Bravo to be on the Joe Rogan podcast. He's here, ladies and gentlemen. There he is, Eddie Bravo. Man, there's like a five-second delay
Starting point is 00:01:00 in the video. I know, it's kind of weird, right? It's awkward. Hey, guys. We're here in Charlotte, North Carolina. Pretty fucking badass town, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:01:10 It's nice here. People are all friendly and shit. I like it. I like it. I rented a car for the first time coming to UFC City and you get to know the city a lot better
Starting point is 00:01:19 when you have to know where the hell you're going. You know, we're so used to just jumping in vans and just not paying attention, and we really don't even know anything about the city. Renting cars is the key. Yeah, drive around, get to know the place.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I like it here, man. It's real. It's all spread out. It's a, you know, it's like no congestion. People are all friendly. There's no tension here. It's a good-sized city. Charlotte's a good-sized city.
Starting point is 00:01:43 It's not too crazy. Yeah, they're super friendly. I drove into the weigh-ins, and they were charging for parking. And since I drove and didn't go into it with a UFC van, I pulled up to the girl, take the money, and go, listen, I actually work for the UFC. I just don't have my laminate, but I'll pay, whatever. She's like, no, just drive right in.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I just drove right in, parked, went up to... I needed to get backstage, and again, I didn't have my credentials. So there's, like, right in, parked, went up to, I needed to get backstage and again, I didn't have my credentials. So there's like security there, like North Carolina security. I'm like, I need to get my credentials.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Is there any way, I mean, can you direct me to a spot where I can speak to someone? She goes, just go backstage. I just walked backstage and went right in. Zero security.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Now you're telling stalkers how they can meet fighters. Yeah. Next time in North Carolina. You have some ammo Look at this guy. Okay. I can't read this shit's too far. These your eyes bad is my eyes be bad Well, we froze up you stream kind of sucks. You know, they all suck, these things. The internet's not quite ready for this shit yet. So we just answer questions and shit?
Starting point is 00:02:55 What stuff have we done in town? We haven't done shit in town, really. I went river rafting. Last night. Monday. Last night I had a show at a place called Amos' South End. A lot of fun great crowd good times
Starting point is 00:03:07 then afterwards there was a gentleman's club down the street where I had to bring some dudes came to my show they had two books
Starting point is 00:03:14 they wanted Eddie to sign it's actually kind of a funny story and they wanted Eddie to sign his books so we had to
Starting point is 00:03:23 get the books over to Eddie but and then we went to get the books over to Eddie. And then we went to the Waffle House and fucked up some waffles. Yeah, that was a good time. Good times, my friend. Good times. What do I think about synthetic cannabis that's legal?
Starting point is 00:03:39 That's kind of interesting shit. You know about that, man? Marinol? No, no. It's a synthetic cannabis. It's like, you know how they had that... When the whole Balco scandal came out, what it was was a steroid that they had made that was just slightly different from regular steroids and was undetectable in tests
Starting point is 00:03:56 because the regular steroids are what they were looking for in a test. They weren't looking for this stuff. Well, that's the same thing with this. There's a synthetic cannabis that you could smoke. It has the same effects and it doesn't show up in tests. What does it look like? It looks like weed. It actually looks like weed?
Starting point is 00:04:11 Yeah, it looks like weed. So it's a plant? Yeah, yeah. And they just, wow. They've just grown it and I mean it makes sense. I mean they figured out a way to... I didn't know about this. Botanists have figured out a way a long time ago to put THC into other things.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Like there was an article online where this guy was trying to put THC in tomatoes, get tomatoes to grow THC. Like they can fuck with plants and have them, you know, different plants produce more vitamin C and different plants do certain things. And, you know, they're trying to figure out how to make these, I guess they have figured out a way how to make weed that doesn't show up in drug tests. Pretty crazy. And it's legal.
Starting point is 00:04:51 So if you work for UPS or something like that and they drug test you and you can't smoke weed, you can smoke the fuck out of this stuff. How long has this been out? It's been out for a while, man. They're trying to make it illegal. It's a big deal now. They're trying to make it illegal? Holy shit. Those dirty bitches.
Starting point is 00:05:06 So you could sell it anywhere? Is this the stuff that they're selling in High Times magazines where they sell weed? No, that bullshit. That stuff's not real at all. Yeah, what's up with that shit? Anybody know what's up with that?
Starting point is 00:05:16 High Times magazine is whack. That is the weakest shit ever, that fake weed that they sell. That is so dumb. But they say that that's like a big part of their advertising revenue. I think that's just because they're fucking lazy.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You're telling me that everyone's so afraid of weed they can't advertise their products in your magazine? Come on. But yeah, you can sell fake weed. You're just ripping people off. That's all that is. That stuff doesn't get anyone high. But this other stuff does. This other stuff is real shit.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Where do you get it? Eddie is here. Talk about UFOs already. Michael Chiavello, the guy from K1 and Dream, the Australian dude that we hung out with in Australia. He's a big UFO guy. And he was down at the Roswell Museum. And he actually saw a UFO and took fucking photos of it and shit. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yeah. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, I mean, who the fuck knows, man? If you have any UFO questions, go ahead and shoot. Did I finish the entire plate of food you posted on Twitter? I finished most of it. I fuck up some food, folks. Especially after shows.
Starting point is 00:06:24 After shows, I can fuck up some food, folks. Especially after shows. After shows, I can fuck up some food. You know, after UFC, too. You burn off a lot of energy just talking. It doesn't seem like you would, but you do. Like a red band. Did he actually say something? Falafel Saturday? Falafel Saturday. The red bands? What does that mean? I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. Did I watch that train wreck Prison Wives on the Discovery Channel?
Starting point is 00:06:47 No, there's a show about chicks whose husbands are in prison. Oh, I might have to Tivo that one. Yeah. What channel? I'll Tivo that shit. Discovery Channel. That might be good. Oh, the History Channel documentary.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I know what I saw. Yeah, I saw that one too. That was kind of interesting. That was the best documentary I've ever seen on UFOs. Definitely, I know what I saw. Yeah, I saw that one too. That was kind of interesting. That was the best documentary I've ever seen on UFOs. Definitely. I know what I saw. It was one of those rare documentaries about UFOs that didn't have like that. The other side, they didn't have a guy going,
Starting point is 00:07:17 well, it's all just mythology and it's in their minds and they're all crazy and why are they landing in Idaho all the time? Why not in big cities? They didn't have any of those guys because it was so ridiculous because they had so many high-ranking military officers coming forward. That one case in England on a U.S. base where they had 80 witnesses and three of the guys went up to it and touched it
Starting point is 00:07:43 and wrote down notes on it. And they all came up and the Ministry of Defense told, they said, this is not a concern of national defense. That's their comment. So that is, that alone right there is pretty crazy. And those Arizona lights, I mean, people saying there's, I don't know how many witnesses, but... The Arizona lights are pretty crazy. I know a dude who lived in Arizona, saw that,
Starting point is 00:08:10 and he said he saw the fucking, the big pyramid thing flying through the air. And they're saying it's like bigger than an aircraft carrier. He said it was a football field. He said it was gigantic. He said it was a gigantic, big pyramid-shaped thing
Starting point is 00:08:24 flying through the sky. Who the fuck knows knows you know my my take on ufos is um if there really were aliens that could come here from another planet um do you think that they would be so silly that they would they wouldn't disguise themselves i think a lot of the shit we see all the time could be ufos i told you about that crazy dude that told me that he was showing me pictures of clouds. Yeah. There's a dude that I know who's a comedian. He's a very nice guy. And the other day, I'm talking to him at the improv, and Homeboy says, what do you think about UFOs?
Starting point is 00:08:56 And I said, well, you know, hey, man, I don't know. I haven't seen one, but I don't discount the idea. I mean, it's certainly possible. Obviously, we have spaceships, and for someone from other planets, if they're more intelligent than us, for sure they could have spaceships. So he starts pulling out his iPhone, and the dude has, like, dozens of pictures of clouds on his phone. And I'm like, what is that?
Starting point is 00:09:18 What do you think about this? Look at this right there. And I go, it's a cloud. And he goes, yeah, but it's an unusually shaped cloud. Look at it and i'm like oh no he's crazy i'm like he's fucking crazy this dude takes pictures of clouds all different clouds and he's convinced that these clouds are ufos yeah but on one point on one hand you got to think like if you really are so super intelligent that you can visit from other planets
Starting point is 00:09:43 why would you you know for sure we're working on cloaking devices right now there's already um this uh japanese jacket that's been invented that basically um takes an image of what's behind you and broadcasts it on the front of the jacket it's basically like predator type shit you remember from the movie the predator yeah and they really have this already i mean it's perfected, but we can't travel to other planets yet either. You know what I'm saying? So if someone from another planet is so much more highly intelligent than we are that they can actually travel here from other galaxies or other solar systems,
Starting point is 00:10:17 for sure they've figured something like this out. So when you're seeing the sky, I mean, it's very possible, you know, that what you're seeing is sky, I mean, it's very possible, you know, that what you're seeing is, if there are UFOs, you would see an image of the sky behind the behind the UFO being projected on the UFO. So you wouldn't see shit. You know, that said, you if you take into account how many UFOs are reported, I mean, it's like there's some ridiculous amount of UFOs reported. And if you take into account how many people see and don't report, they don't say anything because they don't want to look foolish.
Starting point is 00:10:49 You know, that's a lot of goddamn UFOs. I think a lot of what people are seeing is military jets that they don't understand. Like, when I was in, we did Fear Factor down near Edwards Air Force Base, and they had stealth bombers that flew up. Dude, you see a stealth bomber, you think that's a goddamn spaceship. Yeah, the French government did a test with some, there was a serious review of all the,
Starting point is 00:11:13 there's like 50,000 or something, like something 50,000 since a certain year. There's probably way more. But they came to the conclusion that 95% of reported cases can be explained away without military all this high-ranking military this top-secret military planes and different lights but they said 5% most likely are aircraft from other worlds well I don't know why they can say aircraft from
Starting point is 00:11:44 other worlds because I don't necessarily why they can say aircraft from other worlds because I don't necessarily think we have a perfect inventory of what exists in this world. No, but they're saying that that's probably what, that is more likely it's some extraterrestrial craft than, I mean, there's 5% of the evidence. Just because it's not from our government or the Russian government doesn't necessarily mean even it's from another planet.
Starting point is 00:12:07 We don't know what the fuck is in the ocean. Well, you know, that's true. It sounds ridiculous. No, no, no, totally. But a lot of UFOs get sighted coming out of the ocean. Yeah, there was a whole History Channel documentary about that. And people go, well, that's ridiculous. That's nonsense.
Starting point is 00:12:19 That's silly. It's silly that you could send a fucking picture, that you could take this fucking thing and send a video across the sky into somebody else's phone in Australia. That's way more silly than some people from another planet have visited here or that there's something living in the ocean. Especially when you have guys like ex-Pentagon high-ranking officials like Philip Corso, who before he died, he wrote a book and he explained his job in the government, in the Pentagon, was taking crashed UFO stuff, taking it to Hughes Aircraft and Lockheed and all these different aerospace companies to reverse engineer it. He's saying, he was like, there's many interviews on YouTube with Philip Corso. He's dead now. He was on Dateline and they they tried to ridicule him.
Starting point is 00:13:07 But, you know, how do you— J. Allen Hynek, too, is another excellent example of that. J. Allen Hynek was the guy who was in charge of Project Blue Book, and he was told by the government when they had this thing to explain away everything, swamp gas, mass hysteria, anything they could do to explain away UFO cases. But as he became more involved in Project Blue Book, and as he investigated more and more sightings, and, you know, and dealt with more and more evidence,
Starting point is 00:13:32 he became absolutely convinced that UFOs were real. So J. Allen Hynek, who is, you know, like a guy actually working to discredit UFOs, eventually came out and started supporting the whole UFO movement. So I think it's not ridiculous to think that we've been visited. I mean, we go to the Congo all the time and stare at chimpanzees. You know, I mean, if you were from another planet and you had the ability to travel here, why wouldn't you check out people? People are fucking completely ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:14:00 They're probably fascinating. I mean, what would be more? We study lower forms of animals. We always have. And we've been doing this since the beginning of time. I mean, people have always been interested in botany, and we've always been interested in studying different monkeys and different weird animals and other kinds.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I mean, that's the whole thing with Darwin. You know, he took an account of all these different animals that he came across. We've always done shit like that. And I think if we were a much higher intelligence than human beings, we would want to do that with people. We would want to check out and see what the fuck people are up to. See if people are evolving. See what the bottleneck is as far as like social and cultural evolution. And see what the bottleneck is as far as technological evolution.
Starting point is 00:14:45 cultural evolution and see what the bottleneck is as far as technological evolution and whether or not our technology is surpassing our our ability as a human being like to uh to make rational decisions and i think it probably is right now you know they just fired up the large hadron collider yesterday you know yesterday was like the first test nos pojatu is watching. What is that? Poha. I think that looks like... Nos Pohatu? I think that looks like... El Duderito?
Starting point is 00:15:11 I don't know. It looks like... Pohatu. What's his name? If you don't know, Poha is Portuguese. Brazilian guys say Poha all the time. It sort of means fuck or balls.
Starting point is 00:15:24 It means a bunch of different things. They say it all the time. Ball's like, it sort of means like fuck or balls. It means like a bunch of different things. They say it all the time. Balls? It says balls. It means balls. I think it means jizz. Oh, jizz? Yeah, yeah, not balls.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I heard a bunch of different translations. But to me, Nos Pohatu is the fighting vampire. You know what I mean? Draculino. Draculino is a famous Baja Gracie black belt. And Draculino, I guess he looks like Dracula or something So I call him Nos Pohato He's the Brazilian vampire
Starting point is 00:15:50 That's funny That's funny Am I not gonna commentate? Yeah, I'm gonna commentate That shit's in I'm gonna leave in half an hour We're chilling here in the hotel room Getting ready to go down there and commentate
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah, I'm going to commentate. What do I think about Scientology? I think it's awesome if you're gay and you want to cover it up. You did real good at that shit. It's all nonsense. All religions are nonsense. You know just as much as I know
Starting point is 00:16:19 as far as what happens when you die. No one knows. You know what? I think religion is awesome if you do it right. If you do it right, if you do the right thing and help your neighbors. My grandma was hardcore Catholic, and I wouldn't try to convince her if she was still allowed to get out of that. She was going to church every day praying, and that praying is like meditating.
Starting point is 00:16:42 She was meditating. So I think just like having a healthy heart, some people can do kettlebells. Some people could run on a treadmill. Some people run stairs. Some people do martial arts. That's for a healthy heart. It all works. And I think religion, whether you're doing the Jesus or the Allah or the Buddha or meditation or yoga, it doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:17:02 As long as you get your frequency at the right spot with the universe, it doesn't matter if you do the Jesus thing. You know, so I think that... I think you're right, yeah. I think whatever gets you in that right frequency, you could worship your iPhone. If you actually believe that and you can meditate to your iPhone, I think the universe don't give a fuck. They're like, how are you going to get to our frequency?
Starting point is 00:17:25 That's all that matters. The real problem is people. The real problem is the same. You know what it is? It's the same thing. When someone believes in something, even if they believe in something completely irrational, they want everyone else to believe in it too. People love everyone else to be on their team.
Starting point is 00:17:39 That's why, like, you ever talk to people that use Windows and they find out that you use Mac and they're like, what the fuck, man? You use Mac? Mac's for faggots. And they get crazy. Like, they want people that use Windows and they find out that you use Mac and they're like, what the fuck, man? You use Mac? Mac's for faggots. And they get crazy. Like they want you to use Windows. It's like people want you to be Muslim. They want you to be a Scientologist.
Starting point is 00:17:52 They want you to be a Catholic. That's the real problem is that people want you to subscribe to their ideology. But the idea behind it, being a better person and you know and treating everybody as if they're yourself and you know that all that's that's the way to go i mean it really is but the fucking handing out the basket and fucking kids and all that other shit that you know involved in fucking kids i have to admit i'm not into that i'm against that i saw that deliver us from evil that he recommended come on he recommended this documentary and you guys should check it out too. It's called Deliver Us From Evil.
Starting point is 00:18:28 If you want to find out how fucked up the Catholic Church really is, oh my God is this incredible. You see the whole thing? Yeah, well I couldn't watch the whole thing. I watched about an hour and ten minutes into it. Did you get to the point where it turns out that guy's done like hundreds of kids? Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't take it. I wanted to kill
Starting point is 00:18:44 him. I mean it's it. I wanted to kill him. It's really a really sick, sick documentary about this priest who is responsible for molesting hundreds of kids. And they covered it up. They kept moving them. They moved them all over the country. And really, it's incredible. And that's what's going on right now. That gigantic
Starting point is 00:19:01 scandal that's happening right now with the Pope. I mean, the Pope had knowledge of all this fucking shit that was going on. There's so many pedophiles in the Catholic Church. I bet they're all pedophiles. I bet they're all pedophiles. If they're not all, it's a giant percentage. Because if it was half of them or a quarter of them, they would be busting each other out. There would be people coming forward saying,
Starting point is 00:19:26 we gotta stop this shit. They're all covering each other's asses. I mean, think about it. They chose a job where they can't get any pussy. Well, the whole idea is... You know what I mean? That's gotta drive you insane. And anybody who accepts a job that where you can't get laid,
Starting point is 00:19:42 you gotta be fucked up already. And I think my theory is that when these guys grow up gay, they're grown up in a religious home, and then once they find out they're gay, they realize, oh shit, maybe Satan is inside of me. I got these gay feelings.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Oh my God, I gotta fight Satan. So they become ultra religious and ultra Catholic, and then they're trying to prove to God that they're gonna fight the gay. They're gonna devote their life to God. They become a priest, and then they're trying to prove to God that they're going to fight the gay. They're going to devote their life to God. They become a priest and then bam, they hold it together for the first few years and then they lose it. Have you ever seen that video God hates fags? No. The guy who's a gay guy who's singing about being Christian. You've never seen that? No. I'm going to find that shit. You know what? I got to get the fuck out of here. No,
Starting point is 00:20:21 no, no. I got to leave. Come on, man. We don't have to leave for 20 minutes. I gotta shower still. Yeah, but the fights don't even start for more than an hour. And I gotta get my hair did. Come on, man. Your hair looks groovy. You gotta check this out. People don't get to see you on YouTube that much. You know how long it takes to blow dry my hair? No.
Starting point is 00:20:36 How much? You don't have to wash your hair, man. 15 minutes, man. Hold on. I gotta find this video because it's so ridiculous it's a dude who's a gay dude who's fighting against it and he says Jesus is the only man for me oh my it's just genius hold on it's like those guys that Borat or I'd have what Bruno fucks with here's a god-hater bag song it's real this is a real song you have to see this because it's so goddamn genius
Starting point is 00:21:13 This is a real song It is mustache first of all his mustache alone, hold on let me put this up for you guys you have to watch this I just put up on Twitter. It's so genius. Help me fight these feelings. Come on. This is real. Are you sure? Yes, it's real. Look at his fucking mustache. And not that that's proof it's real. This is a real fucking song, man. This is a real Christian guy who's singing this.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And there's another video of him discussing the controversy. There's no backdoor! This is awesome. He's wearing a pink shirt. If you could drop a video so people could watch it too. Yeah. We can't do that, we have to figure it out. Like on italki?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Yeah. He's a fucking genius. Look at this. Come on, the world is way better than any comedy you could write. It's just not put together right. It's not edited. You gotta go find it. You gotta go put all the parts together.
Starting point is 00:23:10 But the world has way more comedy than anything you could ever make on your own. Look at this guy. Look at this. This fucking mustache is killing me. God hates men Yeah, yeah, God hates How horrible must it be to be a gay dude and be religious and to think that God hates you? You can always be a priest.
Starting point is 00:23:56 If you haven't seen that video, you gotta watch it, because it's completely ridiculous. And, by the way, totally real. You know, the fucking dude is a gay guy who converted to Christianity and he's like, you know, trying to tell people the right, totally real. The fucking dude is a gay guy who converted to Christianity, and he's trying to tell people the right way to go. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:15 It's pretty awesome. It's pretty awesome stuff. Where's your lighter? Yeah, put it up in the air, bro. Let's get lighter. Oh, yeah. Do we watch Tim and Eric? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Tim and Eric rocks. That's probably top three favorite shows. That and Celebrity Rehab. Mm. That fucking thing, Dance Floor Dale. If you haven't seen that, do a Google search for Dance Floor Dale. It's got to be one of the funniest fucking videos I've ever seen in my life. The weirdest, funniest things on the internet ever.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Dance floor Dale. You gotta see this. Gotta find it. Find it. It's online. It's on my website. You can find it on Joe Rogan.net. Season three of Tim and Eric.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Cause they keep having recurring sketches and they just get funnier and funnier. The more, the more developed. Here's a good question for you. What does Damien Maya and his jujitsu bring to the table that Leitas didn't versus Silva? Because Damian Maia is fighting Anderson Silva next month and Abu Dhabi
Starting point is 00:25:11 next week, dude. I think Damian Maia is a better guard puller than Talas Leitas. Talas would pull guard but he wouldn't clinch up first. Silva is not going to just fall in. You've got to really shoot deep with an underhook and you got to make the guy sprawl. And if he doesn't sprawl, you know, because you didn't take a deep shot, you're not going to pull him into your guard. And Damian
Starting point is 00:25:35 Maia likes to shoot deep and pull guard. I think that'll be the difference. There's no way he's going to stand with Anderson Silva, you know, just based on, not just based on Anderson Silva's career and what he's done, but based on his last fight where he tried to stand for a little bit with Nate Marquardt, and he's going to pull guard immediately, trust me. He's not going to fuck around anymore with that shit. I hope that's true, but I didn't think he was going to try to stand with Nate either. Well, he stood with him for one punch, and that was just one punch too long.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Do you think that he's training with Vanderlei, and Vanderlei is a known brawler. Do you think that that style of getting in there and just mixing it up and getting ugly, that's not a good style for a guy who's not very technically proficient at striking? He's just so good on the ground. Why give your opponent
Starting point is 00:26:21 any kind of chance standing? Especially Anderson Silva. Are you going to try to mix it up a little bit with him? That's a big fucking mistake. He's going to pull guard immediately, trust me. Or try to take him down because, you know, Anderson Silva isn't some NCAA national champion or anything. So I'm sure Damian Maia is really going to take a shot for real
Starting point is 00:26:40 and for real try to take him down. But if he has any trouble, he will pull guard, no pull guard no problem I guarantee that yeah we've definitely seen Anderson been taken down before you know I mean he got taken down many times by Travis Luter now Travis Luter probably had the most success but you got to think about that fight Travis Luter fought Anderson 11 weeks after Anderson had knee surgery on both knees so that probably wasn't the best representation of his wrestling. Then Dan Henderson took him down as well. And when Dan Henderson took him down, he wasn't able to do anything to him.
Starting point is 00:27:13 He just kind of held him down on the ground, punched him a few times, but really couldn't get anything going. So that's the big question. Is Anderson's jiu-jitsu good enough to stifle Damian Maia? Because Damian Maia had a hard time with Dan Miller in his last fight. Really couldn't get anything going with him. I mean, he ground and pounded him, and he beat him by decision, but never came close to finishing him with a submission.
Starting point is 00:27:34 No, no. And I think Dan Miller is a real good, real tough guy, but I think Anderson's jiu-jitsu is at least as good as Miller's. I mean, on paper at least, he's a black belt and Miller's a brown belt. But Miller wrestled his whole life. There's a big difference. That's a different kind of animal when you're grappling with a real legit wrestler. And Anderson Silva has long limbs.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I like going with guys that have long arms. Rubber guards are a lot easier with taller guys. It's harder for them to pull out of anything. They have long arms. Like the small 145, short 5'5", stocky wrestler types, it's hard to get any rubber guard on because they pop their arms out so easily. They're really small.
Starting point is 00:28:17 So I think David Maia is going to have more success with his jiu-jitsu with Anderson Silva if he gets him to the ground, then he did with Miller. Because Miller, again, he's only a brown belt, but damn, he wrestled his whole life. That's a different kind of animal right there. He's a chimpanzee. The other thing about Anderson is that Anderson has had elbow problems for years. He's had bone chunks floating around his elbow that made training really difficult. He would have to ice his elbows after training.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Sometimes he couldn't do any weightlifting, any strength and conditioning because his elbows hurt. He finally got all that shit fixed. He got the elbow chunks, the pieces of bone taken out. So we're going to see an Anderson Silva that's in a better condition than we've seen him in a long, long time. He's had a problem throwing his right hand because of it, which is really hard to believe when you see his fights. Big Country Nelson went tonight by fat mission. How dare you? Let me tell you something, man. Fat, a big guy like Roy Nelson, that weight centralized in his stomach, he knows how to hold you with that shit. That can keep you in a certain position. He's really good at keeping his weight on you. We have a dude that we train with, Brent.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Brent gets you in side control, man. That motherfucker is really hard to get off you, and he's built similar to Big Country, not as fat, but he's got a big gut. And he's talented as well. He's a good jiu-jitsu guy. And when he gets on top of you and, you know, he gets a good position on you, it's really hard to shake him off you. He plants that weight down on you and holds you in place.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Big country. If I had to guess what's going to happen tonight with Struve, I would say that big country, if he gets him down to the ground, Struve's going to be in a lot of trouble. Don't you think? Yeah, yeah. But Struve has a lot of potential. He might be the underdog in this fight.
Starting point is 00:30:02 He probably should be based on his experience. He's really young. Country's been grappling for a long time. He's really good on the ground. People haven't really seen that. He likes to stand and beg. Country Nelson's really good on the ground. He's really good. He beat Frank Mir, was it like 11 to nothing in a submission match?
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah, he's got a great half guard game too. We just haven't really seen it. But Struve in the long run has so much potential. I mean, that guy, he's like 26, 8 or something like that. He's super tall and he loves jujitsu.
Starting point is 00:30:35 You never see that. You never see tall guys like that who are athletic and coordinated, love jujitsu. I mean, we've seen Sammy Shield. He didn't like jujitsu. I don't know what other tall guy, you know random uh kendall grove that's another tall guy who likes jiu-jitsu but he it's true if he continues to evolve and and remains a student of the game and everything
Starting point is 00:30:57 of course striking and wrestling as well but in jiu-jitsu the way he's moving and you know we've talked several times about jiu-jitsu and strategy and philosophies and stuff. And he's on the right track. I don't know if he can beat country at this point in his career. Maybe, maybe not. But give that guy another five, six, seven years. If he continues to evolve, he can be a serious threat with that height. His guard could be insane.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Yeah, no kidding. If he decided to be a ninja off his back, fuck. He's only 22. That's the other thing about that kid. He's real young. He's got a massive, massive amount of time ahead of him. And a lot of potential. And he's got crazy heart. Remember in Germany when he got cut wide
Starting point is 00:31:42 open, was bleeding all over the place? Who did he fight in that fight? Fuck, I don't remember. I don't remember. He got in trouble. He got cut real bad, and he still pulled it out and wound up submitting the dude. So it was pretty badass. Do another Ustream tonight?
Starting point is 00:31:56 Maybe. Maybe we will if we get back to the hotel. It'll be late here, and I don't go to bed until late on the West Coast, so it'll be early for me. So, yeah, we could do that. We could come after the after party and do it non-sober. This is a sober version of the Ustream because I've got to go do the broadcasting right now. Gomi or Ken Flo? Who the fuck knows, son?
Starting point is 00:32:17 That's why they've got to do it. I think it's exciting having Gomi over here. I would have liked to see him over here years ago, but, you know, he's still young and he's got a lot to prove, you know, and I think he's training real hard. He looked in real good shape and he's saying all the right things, that he wants to really make another run and get another run at BJ Penn. And he's obviously got to get through Kenny to do that, so I think it's going to be real interesting.
Starting point is 00:32:40 He's a solid wrestler and he's a big power puncher. You know, he hits hard. So I think Kenny's going to try to use his legs. Kenny's got real good leg kicks, real good movement. He's going to try to use his footwork, work him with leg kicks, and then if it goes to the ground, he'll try to submit him and cut him up with elbows. The thing about Gomi is Gomi has not fought anybody ever with the elbow rules. You know, elbows are different, man. Especially the cage.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Cage and elbows, those are two totally different things that he's never experienced before. So it's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting. And Kenny, man, he gets better every time. I've got to get out of here, guys. I've got to get ready. I've got to jump in the shower. The show's going to start in an hour.
Starting point is 00:33:21 We've got to leave in ten minutes. Prelims. Thank you very much. I'll do this again. Come over to my house and we'll do a full version. Fuck yeah. Two hour version. Alright, you want to leave with us?
Starting point is 00:33:31 You know what? I'm going to just take my own car. Okay. I'm going to be running. You got the rental? Yeah, yeah. I'll be cool.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I'll see you there, man. See you in 10 minutes. First flight to 515 or something? Yeah, no. Yeah. 515. Yeah. It's only,
Starting point is 00:33:44 it's 4 or 5 right now. Ladies and gentlemen, yeah, 515. Yeah, it's 405 right now. Ladies and gentlemen, finally we're alone. So that's the story. I got to leave in 10 minutes, so I should get my shit going. Yeah, I wanted to do just a little show because I couldn't do one last week because I had a staph infection that I had to deal with, so I didn't fucking die. That's the problem with jiu-jitsu, man. You roll with dirty motherfuckers and you get
Starting point is 00:34:08 weird skin shit, weird diseases. I know a dude who got herpes on his head. What? Yeah, you can get herpes from jiu-jitsu. Not good. The deal with me getting a serious radio show. I'm going to do a weekly show. I think I'm going to do like a six-week run, a trial run. And it's all dependent on my scheduling because I just signed a deal to write a book. I've been writing it for a while, but we've been negotiating about a deal and we finally got the right deal. And I was in New York last week and I met with the publishers. They came out to see me when I performed at Gotham, so I got a nice deal and I'm getting ready.
Starting point is 00:34:50 And the deal is that I have to finish the book by August, so I'm going to be guns blazing trying to write this thing and finish it. Most of the stories, it's going to be mostly about the beginning days of doing stand-up because I have so many crazy stories about bad road gigs and just struggling on the road and what it's like to be really an amateur comedian trying to go out there and get people to laugh for money and how fucking crazy it is and how unsure it is and how you really have no idea if it's ever going to work out and you feel it's completely insecure you know you feel like there's no way this is ever going to
Starting point is 00:35:29 really turn out to be a career and and how nutty some of the fucking gigs i've done were why wasn't you at weigh-ins yesterday i don't even think i'm going to answer that just because it's so retardedly written uh but if somebody else asks it i'll answer it i wasn't at the weigh-ins because I didn't get in at the time. My flight didn't land until four o'clock. So they had Goldberg do the weigh-ins. And then I had my show last night, you know, because we were in New York and then I flew back from New York Sunday. I had Monday to stay home with my family. And then Tuesday flew out again.
Starting point is 00:36:08 So unless I'd stayed here in Charlotte, there was no way, really, I was going to be able to get to the weigh-ins. But, you know, I didn't really. It's too much traveling. I need to be home at least a couple days a week, otherwise I go nutty. When you have babies, man, you just can't wait to go home and see them. How's Hardy's arm? Hardy's fine. Hardy doesn't have any problems. There's nothing wrong with him. I can't wait to go home and see him, you know. How's Hardy's arm? Hardy's fine. Hardy doesn't have any problems.
Starting point is 00:36:27 There's nothing wrong with him. I can't believe it. You know, his shoulder, his arms, you know. I think George St. Pierre didn't quite have the arm bar right. But the Kimura, there was one point in time in the Kimura I thought it was just going to rip off. I mean, it looked pretty bad. I thought it was just going to rip off. I mean, it looked pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Bring back some chicks from the after party at least. No, I can't do that anymore. I made babies and I made a wife and all that shit. Am I doing a show with Aziz Ansari? I don't know him, but I think, yeah, I think he's on that show, the Kevin and Bean show that I'm doing this weekend, April Foolishness. I think it's either Friday or Saturday night, one of those. I'm not sure which. I'll tell you right now. I think it's Saturday. yeah Saturday it's at the Gibson Amphitheater and Universal and I'm pretty sure it's way sold out those guys always sell out their shows it's a really good lineup too a lot of a lot of funny
Starting point is 00:37:36 comedians I did it last year with uh Patton Oswalt did it Ray Romano Ray Romano Patton Oswalt Jeff Ross uh a bunch of good guys. I know Jeff's on it again this year. I think Jay Moore's on it again this year too. Is Ariane hot or what? She's hot if you're not gay. If you're gay, she's probably not hot. The Buffer 360 tonight?
Starting point is 00:37:59 I think he said he would never do that again. I think he said the Buffer 360 is going to retire. He's going to put that shit in the books. It's over, son. What do I think about said he would never do that again. I think he said the Buffer 360 is going to retire. He's going to put that shit in the books. It's over, son. What do I think about crop circles? I think they're incredible geometric patterns. Whether or not humans made them, who the fuck knows? You know, I mean, there's a lot of people that argue that it's impossible for people to make them,
Starting point is 00:38:19 that they're, you know, three times the size of a football field, and they appear overnight, and they're in perfect geometric patterns and circles and everything. I don't know. I think it's very intriguing. At the very least, some of them are fascinating because they're so fucking huge. If people
Starting point is 00:38:38 really are making these things and they're flattening them out and just leaving them there. It's like, wow, there's, it's such incredible geometric art. You would think that they would want to take credit for that. You know, if it's just a hoax, it's incredible that it's a hoax that they've kept up for this long. Like how sneaky are they? And what's the, what's the benefit of that? What's the, what's the reward? I don't know. I mean, I don't have an opinion one
Starting point is 00:39:02 way or another though. I, I think it's it's also possible that it could be some sort of an experiment that they do to impose geometric patterns in these fields. It might be something that they do, you know, from the sky or something like that. And who the fuck knows way they're made, that the nodes of these plants have been blown out like they've had energy pulse through them like microwaves, like expanded. I don't know, though. I really personally have not done enough research and really paid attention to both sides of the argument. I know one side of the argument is that it's bullshit, and the other side of the argument
Starting point is 00:39:42 is that it's aliens. Both of them seem pretty ridiculous. So I'm not exactly sure what I think about that shit. So what did I think about the Luke Stewart-Andre Galval fight? I thought that fight was really interesting. I was blown away by that Luke Stewart guy. That guy has incredible sweeps, man. He's relentless.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I thought he won the fight. I thought he beat him with stand-up, and I thought his ground game negated Galval's ground game, and he swept him a bunch of times, and I thought he edged him. You know, I thought it was a real close fight, but I thought Stewart edged him, but man, he blew me away. Luke Stewart is a bad motherfucker, and I'm really looking forward to his next fight. That was really, really impressive. UFC 115 in Cincinnati. They say that might be possible if the Vancouver thing falls through. I don't know if that's fallen through or not.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I haven't heard it directly from the horse's mouth, so when I hear it, I'll find out. Any more documentaries like the union coming out? Yeah, I did a documentary on DMT. It's called DMT, the spirit molecule, and it should be done in May and probably out for release sometime around the summer. I know they're taking it to film festivals and they're bringing it all over the place. But it's a documentary mostly about different people's experiences on DMT and I'm the narrator. So that's the deal.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Do I know who Bob Lazar is? Yeah, Bob Lazar is that guy who claims to have worked for Area 51. He's kind of been discredited with a lot of things, especially his education. I guess he kind of told some lies about where he went to school and what his degrees are in but very very intelligent guy and he obviously knew a lot about that area about area 51 whether or not he really did have any contact with UFOs or with alien spacecraft or any of that stuff I mean it could be total 100% horseshit or it could be true.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I mean, it's really hard to tell. But when a guy lies about his education, lies about, you know, certain aspects of his background, you got to assume that he's probably lied about other things as well. You know, I don't know. You know, again, I don't really have an opinion either way. Interesting to watch him talk, though. He's very confident. You know, he's very confident, which could mean either A, he's crazy, and that's why
Starting point is 00:42:08 he's confident, or B, he's telling the truth. Alright, I've got to get the fuck out of here because the car is picking me up in two minutes. I just wanted to bust out a nice quick one right here for you guys and say what's up. So, thank you everybody for tuning in and we'll do one probably this weekend. I'll have Eddie come over to my house, and we'll do like a full long-ass one, maybe Friday. And that's it, my friends.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Thank you very much. Enjoy the fights tonight. They're live on Spike TV tonight. I don't know what time it comes on, but it's right before the Ultimate Fighter. So it's fight night. Kenny Florian versus Gomi is the headliner. It's going to be a sick, sick fight.
Starting point is 00:42:47 And Ross Pearson's on the card too against Dennis Seaver. Looking forward to that too. All right, my friends. Thank you very much for tuning into this thing again. And I will be back next week with a real solid podcast. And maybe we'll even do one this weekend with Eddie Bravo at my house. So thank you very much. And I'll see you guys soon.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Thanks.

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