The Joe Rogan Experience - #1306 - Wiz Khalifa

Episode Date: May 30, 2019

Wiz Khalifa is a rapper, singer, songwriter and actor. His new documentary "Wiz Khalifa: Behind the Cam" is available now. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 and we're going live yes sir what are you social media people love you bro people love you too oh we're live we're doing it right now excited so we we've uh god oh what's the word gawked what's the word when you ogled over someone's body sure well dude you got jacked you went from being skinny to shredded. Yeah, yep. You're pretty serious about MMA training, man. It's really just about the lifestyle. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:00:31 You're a martial artist, so you know freaking the mind and the body and the soul go together. Yeah, for sure. All of these things, I'm learning about them. I'm able to put them all together. You can't be a complete person until everything is together. So spiritually, I've already ascended above my peers. I'm able to put them all together You can't be a complete person Until everything is together So you know Spiritually I've already ascended Above my peers
Starting point is 00:00:49 Now I'm taking my body up there How do you do it spiritually? Through that giant jug of weed You got on the table? Exactly Stay high Yeah for the folks only listening Wiz brought literally like a mason jar
Starting point is 00:01:01 Filled with weed Yeah yep yep yep And it's like halfway through You have specific strains that you like yeah i smoke the kk khalifa kush oh you got your own shit yeah yeah yeah absolutely because i i got tired of smoking all different types of weed um it's like a drink you know what i'm saying like alcohol people only drink dark liquor whiskey or yeah i only smoke kk only kk yeah if you mix it up though You'll get a big hit right
Starting point is 00:01:25 Like you switch it up To somebody else's stuff You're like Woo Like your body's not Ready for it My head will go crazy And like I'll really feel it
Starting point is 00:01:32 You'll see me like Over in a cornerstone Somewhere I only have to smoke KK That's it That's the weird thing About weed right Like you get used to
Starting point is 00:01:41 A certain strain Yeah Like I'll get physically Like ill If I don't smoke my strain. I'll get runny nose. Really? Coughing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I need KK. Wow. Yeah, yup. How much do you smoke a day? Probably an ounce. Like, a cool, yeah. Jesus. We burning a cool ounce.
Starting point is 00:02:00 How about you? I don't smoke that much. Me? No, like a joint. More like a joint a day. Really? Yeah. I like blunts.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I think that you were like just getting stoned all day. I get stoned all day when I don't have shit to do. Got you. But if I have too much shit to do and I get stoned all day, that shit doesn't get done. You said you like blunts? Yeah. Why do you like blunts? Because the little tobacco gives you like this little extra high.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Yep. I'm glad you admitted it. Yeah. Because a little tobacco gives you this little extra high. Yep, yep. I'm glad you admitted it. Yeah. People who smoke blunts, some of them, they don't know that they're tobacco-ing.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And they try to mask it and say, no, you know, it's a leaf. And it's like, no, bro, you like tobacco. It's tobacco with weed. Yep. It's like a combo high. It cuts it a little bit, too. I like it before I go on stage. It's my favorite before I go on stage. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:02:44 It gives me a little pick up, a little high, but a little like, boom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm happy how legal weed is these days because it's like, I would, my son had a spring concert yesterday and I would feel like shit back in the day walking in there smelling like bud because he goes to private school and it's like, you know what I mean? It's a reflection on him. Yeah. So it's like, you know, you got the weed head dad, blah, blah, mean It's a reflection on him Yeah So it's like
Starting point is 00:03:05 You know you got the weed head dad Blah blah blah It's another thing But it's like nowadays That shit is cool No one cares Nobody gives a fuck Yeah I've seen it happen
Starting point is 00:03:12 Because I have a 22 year old daughter But I also have an 11 And a 9 year old And with the 22 year old When she was growing up It was all weird It was weird It was like
Starting point is 00:03:20 If you were a loser If you were smoking weed Bro Play dates You know what I'm saying Yeah People coming over your house You got weed at the house Yeah bro Parents get weird It was weird. It was like if you were a loser if you were smoking weed. Bro, play dates. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. People coming over your house.
Starting point is 00:03:26 You got weed at the house. Yeah, bro. Parents get weird. I live right up the street from the school, so I'm getting real technical with it. Yeah. I'm in a school zone. You know what I'm saying? Legitimately, yeah. Bro, I could be not here right now.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Incarcerated. For real. Did you see that lady they locked up today in Dallas? Did you see that shit? Nah, no. An old lady, a grandmother. They locked her up because she had CBD on her. Really?
Starting point is 00:03:51 Oh, yeah. She was at Dallas airport. It's not even psychoactive. And I think she had the oil for her skin. Right. Oh, they just hate it. It's just ridiculous. And she's an old lady, too.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Old lady who needs it for arthritis. That's trash. My wife's mom uses it for arthritis. It's great for older folks. CBD is the shit. My husband called her my ex-baby's mom. She's still my baby's mom. But she has another baby on the way in her new relationship.
Starting point is 00:04:14 But she's able to take CBD during her pregnancy to help her nausea and all that stuff. So it's like, why would you hate on CBD, bro? No, it's amazing. It's the shit. My friend's son has some seizures. He has like some sort of epileptic seizure. Gives him CBD, it's gone. Gives it every day,
Starting point is 00:04:31 he doesn't have them anymore. That's amazing. I love that. It's incredible. That's so good. It's almost, you feel like you're lying. It does so many different things
Starting point is 00:04:38 that when you talk about weed, you feel like you're lying. Yeah. I mean, like these days and this day and age, I was just telling somebody the other day, smoking pot is going to be old school. You know what i mean we're still going to do it
Starting point is 00:04:49 but it's totally moving towards just ingesting it and rubbing it on and all that shit sprays yeah so people are less scared of it and it works like yeah like fuck like you know what i mean the thing about the edibles though it puts you in a weird place if you get too much. Yeah, yup. I've seen some people melt down. Yo, edibles are crazy. So, I got a homie who just took a THC pill yesterday, and he was talking about types of shit. Like, he was going to be awake. That shit knocked him out. He's probably still asleep.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Yeah, the edibles fuck you up. You do edibles? Yeah, I do. But I've had some bad experiences. Like, someone, not bad, but like but like completely lost touch with this dimension. Damn. You know what I'm saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I had a friend who made THC pills. Yep. And I was taking him out to party once. And it was a party for a jujitsu tournament. Okay. So it was a jujitsu tournament, and then there was this party afterwards. And by the time the pills would kick in, I have no idea how much it was in there. Because it was like some handmade shit that this guy put together himself with little capsules that you buy.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Right, right, right. It was as high as I've ever been in my life. Like to the point where I wasn't even seeing people. I was seeing like a two-dimensional cutout of the person. And then behind them, I was seeing like their true intention, their soul like peeking out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was really high. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And I was talking to this one dude. And he was just, he was a high-level jujitsu guy. He was really high fuck and i was talking to this one dude and he was just he's a he was a high level jujitsu guy who was he was really odd it was a very strange feeling i got talking to this cat and then um like a month later he was on the run for rape yeah he uh had raped some woman and then he escaped and then he was so addicted to jujitsu the story was that he started training again with a fake name but he was like this high level black belt and there's only that this especially back then when this happened this is like the early 2000s there's only a certain number of high level black belts that are running around right so he put on this fake brazilian name and started training in like the pacific northwest what the fuck but he's strangling
Starting point is 00:06:45 black belts and everybody's like what the fuck is who is this guy so people ask someone took a picture of him they go that guy's wanted for rape oh shit but i remember talking to him on these thc pills being like like some there's some wiring that's not correct here oh fuck yeah damn dog Yeah. Damn, dog. That's a, whoa. Yeah. THC pills, man. Yeah, they expose things. Yeah, they do, bro. I did mushrooms and it exposed a lot. Yeah, yep. Do you do shrooms?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah. Yeah, yep. I fuck with mushrooms because that's what happened with me when I was on mushrooms. I was able to see people's true intentions. Yeah. Because being a rapper and shit like that you know you'd be having to peel back the layers layers and layers and layers and i was trying to peel my own layers back just for my own sure personal everyone and i ended up yeah yep and i ended up being like backstage
Starting point is 00:07:36 somewhere and i was like fuck i'm like i'm around all these people and like i really see their true intentions and i was like i see what crowd they are. And it was like, I felt like I was separated. You know what I mean? It was like, I was on a boat all the way out here and they were all on an island partying. And I was like, damn. I could see what's going on over there. But it was cool.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I do mushrooms every now and then. I don't fuck with it all the time. I haven't done them In like three years Cause they Help you see shit Like that So it's like for me
Starting point is 00:08:10 I'll take that experience And I'll just live with it Yeah I don't need to keep Going through it Over and over Like you probably Seen that dude
Starting point is 00:08:17 And was like Oh shit Now I know People who are rapey As soon as I see them I knew he was dangerous Like he was dangerous. Like, he was a legitimately dangerous person.
Starting point is 00:08:29 That's insane, bro. Not just a trained killer, but he was dangerous, like the way he thought about things. Woo! That's wild. There's people like that out there. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you don't know until you experience it,
Starting point is 00:08:42 and that was a mild experience compared to most people's encounters. There's a lot of psychos out there. Those fucking crazy motherfuckers bro i know i know just probably in fighting too that's why i feel like more people need to like smoke weed and train i think so too because it balances the training is great man it alleviates all that shit with most people but there's gonna be some dudes just like that guy that are just they're just. Yeah, they're taking it to that level. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:08 When you think about the world of fighting and competition, I mean, you're dealing with people that are taking the biggest risks. They don't have to do that. Right. This is like a choice. Right. They could get a job. The choice is, I want to get a job trying to fuck up other people who have a job trying
Starting point is 00:09:22 to fuck up people. The killers killers the trained killers just going after each other right right and when you're around those dudes one of the things you one of the things you realize very early on you have you can have your preconceived notions about them being like like mean people or violent people right they're people of character yes sir you have to have extreme character to pull off what they do yeah yeah they're some of the best people i've ever met in my life are fighters. Yep, yep. They're a different breed of human being.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Yeah. They chose that path. They chose it. No one's forcing them or not in war. Right. They decide to go and do that. And like,
Starting point is 00:09:54 oof. That's why it's so exciting to watch, right? Right. Because you know that they're putting everything on the line. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I look at it like, like you said, they chose that. So to become an athlete, to choose to fight, you know what I mean? And a lot of them are really, like you said, smart and they're technical, especially how the sport is developing these days because people don't want the long-term damage, but they want to still, you know what I mean, go hard. So they're coming up with fucking all types of ways to do this shit.
Starting point is 00:10:24 know what i mean go hard so they're coming up with fucking all types of ways to do this shit and it's like at the end of the day you have to be creative or you have to have some type of something up here you know what i mean you're not just fighting to be fighting you know right so yeah i think they all go into for the same reason they're trying to find out if they can do it right in the beginning then they have a just a drive to prove that they're the best. Right. I was just talking to somebody the other day about that. It was like a crazy argument because they were saying how fight fans are just there for knockouts. And I was like, you definitely have your your knockout fans. I was like, those probably are the people who pay the most, you know what I mean? It's like, but I was like, you got to give credit to a lot of people who understand fighting and love it and are viewing it for that aspect.
Starting point is 00:11:10 It's like, you know, when you watch football, like a lot of people played football and, you know, wish they could have been that person on the field. They just haven't, you know what I mean? So I was trying to explain to them. I was like, there's a huge crowd of people who actually know about this shit
Starting point is 00:11:24 and who are knowledgeable and those people support it as well. I was like, there's a huge crowd of people who actually know about this shit and who are knowledgeable. And those people support it as well. It was weird. Yeah, I feel you. I know exactly what you're saying. There's some people that just want to see people get beat up. And some people that want to see Floyd Mayweather duck punches. You know, one of the best things about Floyd Mayweather and Canelo wasn't that Floyd beat Canelo up.
Starting point is 00:11:42 He outboxed him. Right. But he showed this level of defense. Right. If you're a boxing fan, you're like, Jesus Christ. Yep. Like, he knows everything that's coming. Yep.
Starting point is 00:11:51 He's always in the right angle. He's always one step ahead. Mm-hmm. And that's why he's so good. Yep. His defense is, I mean, Floyd's only been hit like a few times. Right. His whole career.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Right. Like, really hard. See? Like, Shane hit him a couple times. Was it Maidana? Yeah. Maidana hit like really hard see like shane hit him a couple times uh was it my donna yeah donna hit him really hard one and they fucking like save the clip and play it over and over it's like so he can be hit yeah really you think about other boxers how much they get hit and compared to flu i love watching that i love watching someone who can move like that right right like my favorite fighter to watch in the UFC was Mighty Mouse.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Not just because he was the best pound-for-pound fighter on the planet, but because he was not getting hit. Right. Occasionally, someone would tell you, like, John Mayorga tagged him on the straight left. Occasionally, some guys hit him. But most times, things are just grazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most times, things are getting blocked. Right, right, right. And even if he gets hit, he's moving.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Right, right. He's a puzzle. Right. If you're a fan of martial arts, you want to see the master of the things are getting blocked. Right, right, right. And even if he gets hit, he's moving. Right, right. He's a puzzle. Right. If you're a fan of martial arts, you want to see the master of the puzzle. Exactly. Yeah. Hell yeah. And I don't count them people out, and I wouldn't fucking sit in front of a dude and let him just be like, oh, yeah, everybody wants to see knockouts.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I'm like, nah, bro. It's not like that, fam. I think everybody likes both things, though. It's like when you get Arturo Gatti versus Mickey Ward. Did you ever see that fight? I would have to go back. It was a trilogy of fucking wars between these two guys that were not champions. They were one step below at the time of their career being championship level.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Right. So they weren't in threat of fighting for the title. No one thought Floyd was better than both of them by far right but what they were doing was showing that two guys that are similarly talented can put on like the most entertaining fight in the world it was incredible it's crazy to watch war back and forth and back for i like watching that too yeah yep you know yeah i want to see a good fight me personally i like watching both things i like watching someone just completely willie pep somebody just just like pernell whittaker used to do yeah yeah he's a great boxer he couldn't hit him nope he was so slick nope you know and you can only do that for so long like in in any sport you can only be at
Starting point is 00:13:59 the top for so long yeah you watch those performances when those guys are at the top that shows you what's possible hell yeah and it's good to see somebody like master their craft too yeah cause you see them come up like you watch them be I
Starting point is 00:14:12 and then it's like they become the shit and it's like oh yeah like you know what I mean I seen this dude like start from just being okay
Starting point is 00:14:18 and now he's just fucking shit up you see him learn you see him develop and all of that stuff it's fun like you grow with him that's a good combination of getting to the bottom of shit is weed and martial arts yeah that's a
Starting point is 00:14:30 good combination 100 it really is i do like a lot of my thinking is just from like after i train i just sit there and just think about nothing but you know what i mean yeah ideas come to me how to deal with situations you know what i mean because ideas come to me how to deal with situations you know what i mean because it's just i don't know it just happens like that just flows yeah yeah it flows and i think like the training helps you get all the bullshit off your back right hell yeah right yeah yep especially for me too because like i party a lot and I'm in the studio till like 5, 6 in the morning and I'm drinking and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:15:08 so to just be going down that path and doing that everyday bro I look crazy I feel crazy like I have to get that off of me
Starting point is 00:15:16 like out of me you know what I mean that's why your gym is crazy bro I need to do something like that for myself it's nice to have at some point
Starting point is 00:15:23 like that's how I look at you like the OG. So it's like, I'm not going to go do it tomorrow. Like, hey, everybody build me a gym. But, you know, eventually that's the goal. When I look back, I'll be like, I seen Joe's gym and that's what made me. Well, dude, you train hard. I've seen your videos.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah, I get to work. You work out at Unbreakable? Yeah, yeah. Is that your spot? Yeah, that's a great gym. Yeah, it's a really good gym. Jay Glazer. Yeah. He owns your spot? Yeah, that's a great gym. Yeah, it's a really good gym. Jay Glazer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:46 He owns that spot. Very, very impressive place. He put together an awesome place. Yeah, yeah. It's cool. The team there is good. Like I said, it's not all about just fighting and being the biggest, baddest, meanest motherfucker. They really taught me about my body.
Starting point is 00:16:03 That's what they do. They teach you there whatever your goals are they bring you you know up to that speed so it's like i weighed like 140 pounds ever since i got out of high school and i was like fuck i gotta gain some weight and they helped me out and doesn't snoop train there too yeah there's this video snoop sparring he's sparring daniel seraphia yep daniel's fucking crazy he's a beast yeah i know that guy i've called his fights before he's a tank he is crazy he like that guy's a tank nuts his thing is like yo i gotta get hit i'm like all right daniel you know he's got to get hit to wake
Starting point is 00:16:39 himself up yeah go ahead wow there's snoop sparring with him yeah snoop was going at it too he's trying to take him out dude snoop throws some good Danny. There's Snoop's barn with him. Yeah, Snoop was going at it, too. He was trying to take him out. Dude, Snoop throws some good shots, man. Oh, that's him right there. Yeah, Snoop's got skills. He really does. I'm glad Daniel ducked that one. Uh-uh. Yeah, I mean, look.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Get him, Snoop. Oh! I guarantee you Snoop would fuck up a lot of people in a regular fist fight. Hell yeah. He's tall as shit, too. Look at him. Coming at him like that. Look at those arms.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yeah. Bip. Uh. Look at that go ahead snoop so that was that's seraphian that guy's a tank yeah he fought in the ufc for a while he's still fighting still active yeah i think he's in brazil right now isn't he yeah yeah he was working at the gym for a minute and then he uh i guess he chilled out yeah it's it's anyway my point was the videos it's nice to see because you're training hard like i'm watching you do muay thai hit the pads i'm like dude you're really putting in work on this yes sir yeah yeah it's an everyday thing it's a journey like you know what i mean i'm just trying to learn ernie ernie reyes is my uh oh, shit. That's Senshi right there. That was fun.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Snoop. He was teaching me some stuff. Wow. That was early, though. I suck right there. Still, though, you are sparring right there with one of the greatest Muay Thai fighters, if not the greatest of all time. Yeah, that dude's super tight.
Starting point is 00:18:00 He's amazing. Yeah, he's really good. His videos, like the highlights. Yeah. You ever see that jumping left switch kick he knocked that dude out with really good his videos like the highlights yeah you ever see that jumping left switch kick yeah he knocked that dude out with
Starting point is 00:18:08 yeah yeah yeah he's outstanding he got some crazy kicks so how cool is that man you're sparring yeah with one of the greatest of all time
Starting point is 00:18:16 it's fun as fuck cause it's like those people like you know about fighters they're the majority like you said when you meet them
Starting point is 00:18:23 they're cool as hell. Yeah. So to meet him and him not want to whoop my ass or tell me, like, hey, you look goofy, sit down. He's, like, showing me shit that I could use later. So it was cool. Well, the Thais have a really interesting way of sparring. Some of them do. They play.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Right. They don't hit each other full blast. They, like, tap and they laugh around and joke around. They're just developing Their timing Because they fight so often Yep John Wayne Parr
Starting point is 00:18:49 Is a friend of mine From Australia Multiple time world champion And you know He would talk in depth About how they would play They just play They just hit each other
Starting point is 00:18:59 Just slap each other A little bit And you're like That way They understand The timing of it But they never worry about it They don't get hurt And they can do it all the time it's a really smart way to do it yep but you'll see guys like seraphian he's capable of doing that like he so he could spar with a guy
Starting point is 00:19:13 like snoop or a guy like sanchai could spar with a guy like you and just play with you right everybody just have a good time and it's fun at the end yep super fun yeah yep yep hell yeah definitely seen that a lot like on instagram and even with my trainers we'll do it like me and ernie we was just doing that yesterday where it's like developing the timing of the kicks where it's like you kick me i kick you i kick you you kick me i kick you twice you kick me three times i kick you once like you said just playing around yeah and like when you got a good sparring partner you take care of each each other. Exactly. You don't hurt each other. There's no ego involved.
Starting point is 00:19:47 And the Thais, they do knees. They'll knee the fuck out of each other. It looks kind of hard, but they're just making their bodies harder, like you said, for later. Because they're used to it. A lot of times they'll slap each other with the side of their leg, too. Rather than really drive the knee in. You just hear a smack. They're just slapping each other with the side of their leg too rather than really drive the knee in you just hear smack they're just slapping each other a little bit but it's it's obviously it's very effective like they figured something out you got some crazy kicks thank you yeah i seen uh what was
Starting point is 00:20:16 it a sidekick that you did probably turning sidekick yeah yeah you gotta teach me that i'll teach you that yeah i want to i just need the form because i'm learning just a regular sidekick like a slide you know you should go to like a taekwondo school they'd be the best at showing you got to teach me that. I'll teach you that. Yeah, I just need the form. Because I'm learning just a regular sidekick, like a slide. You know what I mean? You should go to like a Taekwondo school. They'd be the best at showing you how to do it. I'll definitely show you how. But if you need a place to train, find like a really good Taekwondo school. Because one thing, Taekwondo has some things that won't work in MMA if you're adding takedowns and punches to the face.
Starting point is 00:20:42 But because they don't punch to the face In tournaments You get used to Doing crazy kicks Crazy ass kicks So they have a lot of weird A lot of weird Leg dexterity stuff And if you get good At that stuff
Starting point is 00:20:52 I think that's Like if I had a kid That wanted to fight I would say Let's just do some Kyokushin Or some Taekwondo first Just do some karate
Starting point is 00:21:00 Something where you You develop in leg dexterity Yeah hell yeah Then As you get a little older Then move you into Muay Thai. Right. So you can do both things.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Because when guys are constantly chopping at the legs, they never really develop the kind of spinning kicks that the guys do where they don't kick the legs. Those are the guys that develop the best spinning kicks because it's so easy to chop the legs and effective to chop the legs out. So a lot of those techniques don't really get dialed in to the level that they get dialed in from a taekwondo guy because they can't kick each other in the legs right right right it's kind of a dumb way to fight because you should kick the legs but at the end of the day it it allowed them to develop some crazy shit a lot of weird spinning
Starting point is 00:21:40 stuff spinning you don't see fast shit. Some of those guys are so fast. Yeah, yeah. And the power's insane. Yeah, yeah, because it's all momentum and torque and crazy shit. But it's just,
Starting point is 00:21:52 it's hard to develop. Right. It's hard to develop those techniques for guys who kick legs. It's like a lot of posture and you gotta really, you gotta be balanced
Starting point is 00:21:59 and you gotta, that knee is everything, right? Yeah. You gotta, that's how you aim it. So it's like, when you're spinning or even if you're just standing there you have to have correct posture to be able to do a couple kicks
Starting point is 00:22:11 like you said it's like a lot you're going coming at somebody spinning blitzing doing all types of shit so it's different for sure it's really good for your balance too you do that as a young kid then learn some other shit later right you'll have balance yeah that's what i seen when you kick the fuck out of that shit was like yo it's like really balanced and straight like you know what i mean the the tech because a lot of people are you might be strong as fuck but you can see technique right right right you know what i mean and if you do this shit over and over and over and really perfect it, that's different than just being able to throw a strong cake. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Technique's everything, man. It's that way in jiu-jitsu. It's got to be that way in music. It's got to be that way in everything. Yeah, definitely, man. I'm in the studio all the time practicing. I could write a song before this interview is over, but that's because I practice. You know, it's not because, like, I'm the most lyrical person in the world.
Starting point is 00:23:11 It's like I just fucking rap every day. Like, you know what I mean? So it should come easy. When you write, do you write things out or do you do it out in your head? Like, I know Jay-Z supposedly doesn't write anything, right? He just keeps it all in his head, which is incredible. That's awesome. That he can do that.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Right. It's kind of insane. Yeah, yeah, yup. I have different processes. So like for me, I have melodies. Like I'll sing and I'll rap. So it's a lot easier for me to just have a melody in my head and make up the words as I go but if I'm writing lyrics like writing words down where I actually rap it that's when I'm going to
Starting point is 00:23:52 use the paper you know but there's different ways to do it because I honestly this is what my studio setup looks like it's like a chair the mic is right here I don't go in the booth or anything and my engineer's sitting right there so it's like we're we're coming up with it as as we go like i'll take a little break write something down and then i'll just jump jump straight back on it you know what i mean so there's different techniques though because a lot of times sometimes i won't write shit i'll just go and just make it up and just keep going keep keep flowing. Or there's times where I could just lay a melody and then write the words to it later. So it's just different ways to approach it.
Starting point is 00:24:31 So you just do it based on however you feel that day? Mm-hmm. Whatever the track really calls for. It's like if the song is something that I get instant inspiration, I'm like, oh, I'm going to knock it out right now. Or if it's something that I want to live with for a little bit, I'll just do as much as I'm happy with at that point and then move on to the next thing. Come back to it later and just make sure everything is fresh. I like to keep
Starting point is 00:24:54 everything fresh, keep it fun, keep it loose. And I don't really overthink anything. If it's not there, then I just go away from it and find something that's more fun. Hell yeah. It's a beautiful freedom to be able to do that. You obviously picked the right fucking job. I swear. It's work because I'm always looking for what's next, you know what I mean, for the fans, for the listeners, for the people who supported me all the way to this point.
Starting point is 00:25:27 I'm like, okay, I got to push myself. I got to do what's next. I got to – it's got to be crazy. You know what I mean? I got a son. He's six. So it's like I got to impress him. I can't have him just listening to a whole bunch of other rappers and not my music.
Starting point is 00:25:39 So it's like, yeah. Yeah. It's – you know, it is an interesting responsibility you have, right? Yeah. Yeah. And a guy like you becomes famous. It's interesting. Like, you have so many people that want you now.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And I think we need to call it a different thing other than work. Yeah. Because it's like, there's work. Like, fuck, I work for UPS. Right. Yeah, it's cool. They got good benefits. But that's work. Right. But what you're doing is, like, you love work. Like, fuck, I work for UPS. Right. Yeah, it's cool. They got good benefits. But that's work.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Right. But what you're doing is like, you love it. Yeah, hell yeah. You know, when you love something, it almost, we need a better word. Yeah, for sure. That it's the same word as working at McDonald's. Yeah. It's the same word, work.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Work. I don't know what the word would be. You need a better word for like a passion project. For like being able to do what you want to do. Exactly. Whatever that thing is. Yeah, yup. no i believe that that's that's a good point because it's not the same work it's not the same thing no it's not the same thing we need we've done our we put in the work yeah yeah that's why we're here if you had a shit job in your life you know what that is that's work yeah we put in the work we've done that but saying i'm going to work when you're going to do
Starting point is 00:26:43 something you love you're excited about. Yeah. We need a better word. Yeah. That's what I think. No, it's true. That's why people get pissed at me. You're not going to work.
Starting point is 00:26:53 There's a hundred girls there. Bro, I had a punch in just like you. bro i had a punch in just like you yeah in that sense the world's just not fair you know some people's jobs are not the same yeah i mean fuck do you stop and think about how fortunate you are yeah yep yeah i thank god every day bro beautiful all the time because it is it is a I'm literally like, last night I'm like writing a song, and the only problem that I had was like a girl's ass was right on me. And I was like, baby, like I'm enjoying this as much as you are, but I got to like physically write.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So it's like your ass is like moving my arm around. I'm like, you can do that, but just right there. You know what I mean? And I started thinking to myself, like, wow, these are my problems. Yeah. That's cool. Just need a little bit of discipline. I'm cool with that.
Starting point is 00:27:54 That's your own problem. You have no problems. That's amazing. Yeah, I'm cool with that. Yeah, for sure. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah. And the song got written.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Beautiful. Yeah, yeah. Job got done yeah that's it there's another word right that does not work you are not working you're working obviously you're working at it but it needs a better word a more a nobler word the fans will come up with the word for sure they're way more creative yeah way more time on their hands yeah i think they will they'll figure it out and we'll report back for sure we'll find it i did just make sense there's no way it's the same thing it can't be no hell no for sure nope yeah and that's why i always tell people when people always try to think down they always try to think down, they always try to think, man, that's easy for you to say, or not everybody can make it.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah, you're right. Not everybody can. Truth. But maybe you can. Right. What does that mean? Not everybody can. Not everybody can.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Not everybody's going to do everything. Not everybody's going to walk to the top of the hill. That's the thing. Some people are going to stop halfway and go, I can't do it. That's the thing. People limit themselves in a crazy way. They're like, oh, yeah, everybody can't do it. Like you said, it's like, no, everybody can't do it. It's like you said.
Starting point is 00:29:05 It's like, no, everybody can't do it. It takes a lot. You know what I mean? You got to fucking go through the shit to get it. But when you get there, it looks awesome, right? So, yeah. I mean, fuck. It's whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Yeah, yeah. Just try to figure it out and go do it. Hell, yeah. Yeah. Hell, yeah. Like you said, the top of the hill looks great but some people settle for the middle yeah and they get mad if people get to the top this motherfucker you know they get mad yeah at the top man there's no one who's like you doesn't work
Starting point is 00:29:41 hard right so that's the myth right that's the thing too it's like maintaining again the wrong word for it right passion hard whatever it is right right right i mean you know dedicated to your craft maintaining it is there's an art to that right because you work so freaking hard to get to where you're at and then you get there and it's like oh fuck what do i do like there's no rest there no rest. And everything that was acceptable before becomes unacceptable because now you're up here. You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, you have to pick your shots. You know what I'm saying? You can't really just go crazy like you did back in the day.
Starting point is 00:30:19 So there's an art to it. You know what I mean? And that's how you really maintain and stay in that spot and even level up. So do you consciously think, okay, balance out enjoyment with things that I have to do to stay disciplined? 100%. Yeah. 100%. That's a very smart way of looking at it.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah, yep. 100%. There has to be a balance of each because it's like, all right, now I'm at this new level. Like whether I want to behave like this or not, I put myself here. I worked hard. Now I'm with these elite motherfuckers. So this is how I have to act because I'm not down here anymore. I worked from here to get here.
Starting point is 00:31:01 So what happens? You balance. You put things into place. You do a little bit of this and a little bit of that instead of a lot of that you know what i mean and you just pick your shots and it's like you're gonna get everything in the end this is how it's just planned and how it's supposed to be but you just piece it together just a little bit differently. Like I just turned 31. Well, damn, I'm about to be 32. That's young to a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:31:30 That's old to some people as well. But for me, it's like there's a whole new mind state. You know what I mean? And I feel like through my 20s, I was actually like a fucking teenager. And like now I'm an adult. So now I look at things a little bit differently. It's like, yo, I was really a kid. This is how you behave as an adult for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And it still involves a whole bunch of partying and having fun, but the business gets handled and things get approached totally differently. That's a balanced way of looking at it, man. I love it. Enjoy it. balanced way of looking at it man i love it enjoy it this other thing too like people have to understand to to be someone like you to be a very successful rapper and to not expect you to live the way you talk about all the time right it's so ridiculous right right right right right like you don't think you he wants a party he's talking about partying all the time. Exactly. I think he wants to party. I think he likes partying. This is just an act.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah, yeah. No. It's weird, right? It's crazy as fuck because people, they want you to be you. They want me to be myself. Right. They want to party. They want to take shots.
Starting point is 00:32:40 They want to smoke weed. They want to stay up all night. Yeah. Why is that bad? It's not. So many people want to smoke weed they want to stay up all night yeah why is that bad it's not so many people want to do it but it gives this uh image in some people's minds of like frivolous life frivolous thinking partying what are you doing drinking and smoking what are you enjoying yourself you know and then they come around and do the same thing because they want it it's like i have like a weird place in life where I think I'm like the key to a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Because it's like if you want to enjoy yourself, I'm the guy. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, man, I'm just fucking going to live through this. When Wiz shows up, he's going to light the joint. It's going to be amazing. If you want to fucking be professional like especially in what i do because there's a whole lot of rappers who like aren't business you know what i mean they're not thinking like that so for those guys i'm their guy like they look at me like where's has his shit together like he
Starting point is 00:33:39 really handles his business he talks to people he shows up he does this he does that so to be the party guy and the business guy it's like amazing you know what i mean it's a it's a lane that i kind of carve for myself but it's me in real life so it's like that's the only thing i have to do is really just completely be myself just be 100 fucking show up do my business thing, tell people to do the right thing, and fucking light the joint. You know what I mean? That's it. That's a crazy business, sir. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I'm straight like that. That's amazing. Yeah, yep. People listening to this are probably like, wow. You could be yourself for a living. For sure, bro. It's a blessing. It's a blessing.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I had John Witherspoon on yesterday with his son, JD. Okay. You know, Pops Witherspoon? Yeah, yep. And that's basically what he is. He's one of the funniest fucking human beings that's ever lived. Right. And just keep a camera on him.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Just keep a camera on him. That's the whole show. I don't think I ever met family in real life. Oh, he's amazing. He's so funny. He's legit? My face was hurting. At the end of the day, the cheekbone muscles, they're like, ah.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Yeah, he probably got some crazy, they're like, ah. Yeah. He probably got some crazy ass stories. Oh, yeah. That motherfucker been in the game forever. Yeah. And that's who he is. He got paid to be who he is. He figured out how to just be who he is all the time.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yep. It's insane. Damn, bro. Yeah. Yeah. It's not limited to one or two of us, right? Yeah. There's a bunch of different paths.
Starting point is 00:35:03 That's the cold part. Yeah. Nope. Nope. Hell yeah. limited to uh one or two of us right yeah there's a bunch of different paths that's the cold part yeah no no hell yeah so how many years you've been training martial arts now uh this is my second year wow yeah only two years that's amazing i gained what 35 pounds i'll pull up a video of him hitting pads that's incredible is it a new video i don't know tell them tell them what what video is probably gonna be old but it's all good though you know how we are you can hit hard you have good technique you turn your you turn your hips and shoulders into things yeah yeah yep i'm learning you do it right so that's very impressive that it's only two years in yo i'm learning that's awesome man i love it i love it when people Take a chance to And they try something new
Starting point is 00:35:45 Yeah that's old But you know We'll get there So how many How months Had you been in here Like you say this is old This was probably
Starting point is 00:35:53 Like a year in Yeah this was a year ago Yeah yep Dude Seriously though Good technique For someone who's been Doing it a year
Starting point is 00:36:01 The way you're moving I mean there's no fat To your movements Right See what I'm saying Like everything you're doing it might not be the fastest in the world or the most devastating but you're doing it perfect thank you doing exactly how you're supposed to do it and then you just get better and better from there there you go but what we were talking about is the change in your physique right i mean you became fucking shredded right yeah it's impressive
Starting point is 00:36:20 yeah thank you that's only through hard work you can't do it any other way. Yeah, just working and eating. I was... Hello. Oh, I'm sorry. That's my doorbell. It's hard to cut that off. Sorry about that, guys. That's no worries, man.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Welcome to the wonderful world of convenience. There we go. Bam. Yeah, eating like a motherfucker, bro. I had to force myself to eat. To gain weight? To gain weight to gain weight yeah um fucking just moving around so much i already have a quick metabolism so then you add working out to that so it's like i'm burning so much so setting alarms to eat really yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:36:57 getting a little bit more rest too you know setting alarms to eat like how does that work yeah like you wake up and then you eat and then you go back to sleep? Wake up, eat, go back to sleep, go train, eat, go to sleep. What kind of farts are you brewing? Eat right before you go to sleep. Oh, my Jesus Christ. I do a lot of, like, ginger shots and, like, shit like that to help. Tumor egg? Yeah, tumor egg, all of that shit, too.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Because, like you said, that shit can fuck your stomach up. Who told you to get up in the middle of the night and eat, though? My trainer. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I would say that your sleep cycle is more important than anything. Oh, well, it's not like breaking my sleep.
Starting point is 00:37:36 It's like more like, yo, eat. Oh, you mean like you set an alarm while you're awake? Yeah. Oh, okay, okay. I see what you're saying. I've never heard anybody telling someone to wake up in the middle of the night and eat.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Nah. No, I did hear that. That's why it was weird. I heard that from, there was that movie with Clint Eastwood where he played a boxing trainer
Starting point is 00:37:53 and his daughter, that famous actress, played a boxer. Okay. Remember that? Billion Dollar Baby or something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When that actress, what is her name? Hilary Swank. Hilary Swank. Good job. When Hilary, thank you, look at yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When that actress, what is her name? Hilary Swank. Hilary Swank. Good job. When Hilary, thank you.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Look at Jamie. He's on the ball. Good job, man. When she was training for that, I think that's what I read, that they had alarms set where she would wake up in the middle of the night and have a protein shake. Oh, really? And then go back to sleep again. Nah, I'm not doing that.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Okay. Nah, no breaking the sleep. Just regular eating habits, just reminding myself. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because I was eating like twice a day on some just some rock star shit. Can't live like that, bro. That shit is whack.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Do you have a nutritionist or someone who like handles your meals? Meal preps. Yeah, you got that? Because I don't cook. Right. So it's like they just deliver my meals. That's nice. Yeah, yeah got that? Because I don't cook. Right. So it's like they just deliver my meals. That's nice. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:46 It's really nice, actually. Yeah. Yeah, because I'm single, so it's like I don't really got nobody in the house cooking or making all that shit happen for me. So it just comes to the door. So you can make sure everything's healthy, exactly what you want. It's all there. It's set up for you. It's fresh every couple days.
Starting point is 00:39:03 That's a good thing to not have to think about yeah yep the food the food is like a big part of it and working out is one thing people just want to get big like you said well like we were talking about it's like mind body and soul right so the food is for the soul keep that fucking meat alive yeah keep the body moving yep are you uh do you ever do yoga or anything like that? I would. You would? Yeah, yep.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah? I need a yoga instructor. Yeah. Who's the best yoga-ist? I don't know, man. You do yoga? Yeah, I love it. Yeah, yep.
Starting point is 00:39:36 How long? Oh, yeah, I see you do some hot yoga and shit. Yeah. Yeah, yep. That shit's intense, right? It's kind of intense, yeah. But it's great for you man It just stretches you out
Starting point is 00:39:47 Loosens you up That's what I need to do I need to stretch Yeah Yeah I do like Regular normal stretching But some yoga will be alright
Starting point is 00:39:56 Yeah it's good too Because Because of the heat in the room Everything gets real loose Yeah You can really kind of dig into Like certain things Stress your
Starting point is 00:40:04 Test your flexibility, to stretch things out a little bit more. It just keeps you pliable. When you're doing a lot of hard things like Muay Thai or weightlifting, everything's hard. There's not enough stretching things out and maintaining your range of motion, especially as you get older. How often do you do it?
Starting point is 00:40:23 I try to do it at least once a week, but I often fail. But two times a week on a good week. Okay. Yeah. But I mix it in. I can't do one thing every day. I get bored. So in order to stay active, I just have to do a bunch of different things.
Starting point is 00:40:38 That makes sense. So whether it's martial arts or running or lifting or whatever it is. I feel like through time you added those things in, right? Yeah. It was just like, all right, I'm going to do this. Yeah. The hill running is the most recent thing. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:40:53 So what's hill running? I take my dog running through these steep-ass fucking hills and then sprinting up these. It's the most ruthless workout. Have you ever run hills? Yes. Yeah. The worst is sand dunes. Have you ever run hills? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's the worst.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I don't like it. Yeah, I don't like it. Sand dunes are the worst. That probably sucks. It sucks. You never get up there. You keep pushing, and you're pushing sand and pushing sand. There's no hard.
Starting point is 00:41:17 You don't ever bounce off anything. Right. You're just pushing through soft shit. It's ruthless. And you're trying to find balance. Yeah. That's some real martial arts shit though yeah for sure that's some mental shit exactly yeah you're learning about yourself when you're
Starting point is 00:41:29 running up a fucking sand dune you're mastering a fucking moving thing things melting the whole time you're trying yeah yeah wow okay and you're forcing your body to do what your mind wants it to that's crazy listen bitch i know you don't want to do this yeah you're gonna do this that's like uh i heard the diaz brothers do some crazy shit like swimming oh yeah they do triathlons yeah fuck that nick diaz i think it's now five times that he swam back from alcatraz fuck that yeah alcatarks. Sharks. Fuck that. I'm with you. Fuck that. That's so crazy. Those guys are so crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:11 That's like you in the sand dunes, though. Well, I don't do sand dunes. If I had one near me, I would do it. I'd run hills, which is definitely easier than sand dunes. But it's still hard as fuck. Good, steep-ass hill. It's the best for training is it grass yeah dirt dirt rocks just anything yeah just just trails damn bro yeah i'm gonna get there someday
Starting point is 00:42:34 you see me you see me come on man you see me blazing up come with me i'll take you out one day we'll go running together i like to hike it's's a great workout, man. And the thing about it is it amps everything else out. Yeah. So, like, it makes your kicking stronger. It gives you more wind. It just accentuates your ability to explode because you're running hills. Right. So you're always going up.
Starting point is 00:42:56 It's like you're doing these crazy plyometrics and you just develop this way stronger power in your legs and your lower trunk. You know, you just yeah yeah more kicking power yep that makes sense yeah i feel like i will fuck with it dude you'd love it because i like to just tune shit out and just go yeah so like the pain from running up the hill would just i would be like yes yeah i'm not even gonna think about this i'm gonna think about something else yeah well and you get a goal right right? You set a goal, like a mile. Put yourself at one mile and then turn around and go back for the other mile. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And if you can do that on good, steep ass hills, when you're done, you feel like you fought a battle with your brain. It's like, no, you didn't want to do that, but you did it. Damn, dog. All right. That's nothing compared to what some people do yeah but nah that's that's that sounds like you know something that we could unlock later on in my life i think for everybody doing something that's super strenuous all the time
Starting point is 00:43:56 is important yeah for sure for sure that's that's part of the reason why I fuck with training so much, because it's not easy, and it breaks you. But you reach points where it's like, okay, now I'm just cruising, so I need another challenge. You're just sharpening the shit after a certain point. So it's like, all right, now I'm going to go run some sand dunes. Swim from Alcatraz. So yeah, I get it. There's dunes somewhere down near like Orange County
Starting point is 00:44:27 or they're pretty famous I was looking up Manhattan Beach Sand Dunes Park yeah that makes sense it's a park yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:44:33 there's a video of Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook training there I was about to pull up yeah pull that shit up I want to see somebody run on those dunes oh Westbrook be doing it
Starting point is 00:44:41 yep alright cut I know a lot of fighters do it in Australia I believe Robert Whitaker does it. Yeah, see? When you're doing shit like this on Sam, that is phenomenal for your body. That's so hard to do, man. They're dying.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Dying. That's so hard to do. And I wonder if they're running with just socks on. It looks like they are. No. Yeah. That's amazing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:05 That's difficult. Fuck, man. Because that makes your feet strong. Because you're using every muscle in your toes to push through that sand. That's difficult. Fuck. There's levels to this life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:19 With everything. That's literally who's going to go to the top or who's going to stop in the middle. Yep. Yeah. Fuck. Those little decisions you make every day. I just seen my whole life just running up some dudes just there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Yeah, it was cool. Yeah. Yeah, yep. That's awesome. It's like a mental martial art, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. You're testing the mind.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Hell yeah. Yeah. And getting stronger at the same time. Yeah. That's the cold part. Wow. You're testing the mind. Hell yeah. Yeah. And like getting stronger at the same time. Yeah. That's the cold part. Yeah. So it's like you could be up here the whole time and you're building all of this and becoming more explosive and more dangerous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:58 And lighter on your feet and just phew. When you started training and seeing these awesome benefits were you like god damn it why wasn't i doing this all the time um i'm actually happy that i that i waited for a little bit because i enjoy it it's not like old to me you know what i mean it's not something that i'm tired of or that's a chore i'm still figuring out new shit like all the time and getting better you know what i mean and like uh for me i feel like the physical was probably like the first thing to come to me uh as like a as reward as benefit like i see the the physical shit but now it's like the feeling that i get you know what i mean or like like we said like posture and balance and technique improving and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:46:46 So it's like learning that and feeling that and having that being a part of the process. I'm happy that now it's happening as opposed to it being old and played out to me. Right. Yeah, yeah. That's interesting. I think you'd love it either way. Yeah. I still love it.
Starting point is 00:47:01 I still love training. I've been doing it forever. Forever? Yeah. I'm 51. I started was really seriously when i was 15 oh shit yeah damn so i what the fuck was i doing yeah that's how i was feeling i was rapping will you rap it when you're 15 wow when did you first get into that's one thing i really admire about a lot of rappers guys are always working yeah rappers are always in the studio hopefully
Starting point is 00:47:25 that's like a big thing though it's like there's a discipline aspect to it that I don't think that gets appreciated yeah
Starting point is 00:47:32 you have to be you're always in the lab you're always working constantly it's like training you gotta be you gotta work at it it's competitive
Starting point is 00:47:39 yeah it's competitive you gotta be in the studio you gotta work with producers you gotta becoming fucking knowing who's next and who's, you know what I'm saying? Like, working with them and shit like that. So, like, at the end of the day, yeah, it's a craft.
Starting point is 00:47:55 I've been in the studio since I was, like, 14, 15. And there was times when my dad used to have to tell me, like, yo, get out of the studio. Like, go play with your friends. Be a kid. Be normal. Like, you know what know what i'm saying like there was times that shit happened and even now like i don't really do normal shit you know what i mean i might like go to the movies or like go to dave and buster's or something like that but like i don't do shit like i just go to the studio much rather just you know what i mean yeah create well that's amazing that you figured it out so young like how old were you when you knew you wanted to be a
Starting point is 00:48:30 rapper uh i think i was in third grade it's a real shit i think i was in third grade that's amazing i wanted i wanted to be a ninja turtle and i wanted to be a rapper. And I think a rapper was like a little bit more realistic. I'm working on being a Ninja Turtle now. That's amazing. Third grade. Yeah, third grade. How old are you in third grade again? You nine?
Starting point is 00:48:54 You nine? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's when I started writing my first raps and shit. Dude, that is hilarious. Yeah, I was like watching music videos and I remember seeing like Puffy and Biggie and Bone Thugs-N-Harmony. It was one of my favorite groups. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:08 So I was like, yo, if I could do that, I'd be all right. And then by the time I was 13, that's when the internet was really popular, so you could download instrumentals and shit like that. So you didn't have to have beats or anything. Then they started introducing, you know, uh, at home equipment. They have like little task cam for track little bullshit thing that you could,
Starting point is 00:49:34 you know what I mean? So I started fucking around on that, like doing my own little home studio. Then Fruity Loops came out, started making beats. Cool Edit Pro was like the, the program back then before pro tools and yeah that's how i got my start like just in the fucking in the in the crib just
Starting point is 00:49:53 putting it together then i turned like then by the time i was like 16 i got like an internship at a at a studio in pittsburgh where i was literally like answering the phones and running errands and going to pick up office supplies and shit like that. And in return, they would pay me with studio time. So I would just record off the clock. You know what I mean? I had like four or five songs and that turned into a record deal. Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Yep. Got my first deal at 16. That's an amazing story it's wild that's that's a movie story that's crazy you always knew yeah yep it was something that i worked at for sure because it was like being in in pittsburgh you ever been to pittsburgh yeah you know it's pretty crazy out there right crazy how like it's just a really wild city like the midwest so it's like there's either a couple things you can do and it's not a lot and working a job is like the last thing that anybody wants to do in pittsburgh so all my cousins and everybody that i know do different shit than what
Starting point is 00:51:00 i was willing to do i was like yo i'm not trying to be that guy like like that so i was like how am i gonna make a way for myself you know what i mean how the fuck am i gonna get still be fresh still you know i mean enjoy myself have a good time but be safe and like have fun it was music so it's amazing that you nailed it yeah and nailed it young yeah that's a beautiful thing to know what you want to do yeah and just be working towards it hell for many people that's the real problem the real problem is like finding a thing yeah you know finding a thing they really love so much they can put all their energy into yeah i mean i'm blessed to grow up in a time too where technology was like taking over and shit
Starting point is 00:51:40 and i think like if you're my age and you like make music or got a camera or you know what i mean anything around that you good like and now i think it's like if you have anything to do with weed like you know what i'm saying you know how to grow it if you could sell it if you could brand it if you could come up with light technology or whatever it is. That's going to be the future for this generation. It's like pot. There's going to be a lot of that for sure. It's going to open up to everybody. I think once they realize how much money there really is in pot and how safe it is in comparison to liquor and all these other established things that we've all.
Starting point is 00:52:21 No one has a problem with alcohol companies. Hell no. Nobody has a problem with alcohol companies. Hell no. Nobody has a problem with them. Nobody has a problem with you drinking at 12 in the fucking afternoon. I get on planes all the time. People be like, yo, let me get a little. It's like people getting fucked up, yo. On a plane.
Starting point is 00:52:37 It's totally fine. We just have to shift attitudes. Yeah, yeah. People just have the wrong attitude about it. They think it's something negative. It's something that could be negative to some people but that's like everything else that's like food sex gambling everything shopping everything yeah shopping for sure people go crazy people lose their mind shopping yeah they can't buy enough things yeah they're buying crazy shit
Starting point is 00:52:59 just cuz just cuz yeah that's that's as much of an addiction as anything. Yeah. But pot can definitely, for some people, derail them. I don't think it's for everybody. Nah. It's a medicine, so you got to have the right dosage. That's a good way of looking at it. I think some people react to it weird, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I mean, certain people's experiences aren't everybody else's experiences. Yeah. So it's like, if you got fucked up on weed, that's you. Right. So it's like, don't put that off't everybody else's experiences. So it's like if you got fucked up on weed, that's you. So it's like don't put that off on everybody else. And I think like anything, it takes time to, you know what I mean? I can't take Percocet because it's like that shit will fuck me up because I don't do painkillers. But I think over a certain amount of time, if I had an injury, my body would start to react differently to a certain amount of Percocet but like off rip
Starting point is 00:53:48 it's gonna fuck me up you know what I'm saying I'm gonna throw up I'm gonna do all types of shit but you know after a while you know what I mean there's people who just pop that shit and just walk around like you know what I mean normally that's same way with me smoking a joint it's like there's some people
Starting point is 00:54:03 who can hit this and be in that corner for the rest of the day. Me, I'm going to go do everything that I have to do. So it's a medicine. It's a dosage, and you have to train your body for it. I think that's true, but I also think some people might not react to it correctly in terms of like biologically. Yeah. I think they might have an allergy. Like it might be like broccoli or something.
Starting point is 00:54:24 There's people out there that are allergic to weird shit Right There's some people I think that just I've heard of that That experience is just not good for them They're like they're allergic to it I don't I mean you know
Starting point is 00:54:33 I'm just guessing I don't know It makes sense though I think it's opinion like If you believe it or not You know what I mean Like If you want to believe that
Starting point is 00:54:41 I feel like You're entitled to believe that And if you don't want to believe that Then it feel like you're entitled to believe that. And if you don't want to believe that, then it's like, okay, cool. You're that guy too. Okay. I don't know either. I agree with what you said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:54 I don't know. I don't know either, bro. Because it's like I'm on the fence because it's like, you know, on one hand, people, I mean, I don't know. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:04 It's medicine. It's fucking medicine. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. It's medicine. It's fucking medicine. Yeah. And I like it. And there's a lot of people that like it. It's not what everybody thinks it is. People have this wrong idea of it. Man, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:15 One of the things I found out real early on is how many jujitsu guys smoke weed and do jujitsu. Yeah. You've seen the High Rollers thing? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. High Rollers has these awesome events where they smoke weed and then they fight. jiu-jitsu yeah you've seen the high rollers thing yeah yeah yeah high rollers has uh all these
Starting point is 00:55:25 awesome events where they do they smoke weed and then they fight yeah in a jiu-jitsu match yep my partners uh are are a big part of that Lonnie and Breeze and they're the ones who actually got me like kind of you know into fitness so to see them like and I'm the one who got him in the weed so it's like to see it like cross over i never would have known like you know what i'm saying how many jujitsu dudes like smoke weed and like are about it like yeah it helps it helps you jujitsu it really does in some weird way it helps like slow it down for you right i don't even know if it's slow it down it's like it tunes out the rest of the world okay like, okay. It's like you become freer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:05 It's very weird. Like more creative? It's definitely better for rolling than it is for drilling. Gotcha. Because when someone's trying to teach you something, sometimes your brain's just not taking it in. Because you're just high. You're just high.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Your brain's not taking it in. But if you were sparring, it would be good. Gotcha. You flow better. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. That makes sense. I haven't done jiu-jitsu yet. You just, you flow better. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. That makes sense. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I haven't done jujitsu yet. I'm going to get there. Eventually. You would love it. You got long limbs, man. You'd be perfect for choking people. Yep. Arm bars, triangles and shit.
Starting point is 00:56:36 I'm going to get there. You could do it. Yep. You'd totally be built for it. I feel like I'm going to just fuck with stand up for like a couple years and then just gradually do other things. Like, you know what I'm going to just fuck with stand-up for a couple years and then just gradually do other things. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:47 I'll just probably do jujitsu for four or five years. Yeah, for sure. You should. Just learn some shit. Yeah, it'll be great for you, man. Hell yeah. Like I said, you're built for it. I'm all about it.
Starting point is 00:56:58 The perfect frame for fighters is long. It seems to be long. As long as you're strong, it's like the John Jones frame. That's the perfect frame Right You can't get You can't get close enough To him
Starting point is 00:57:09 He can hit you When he wants to And then when he grabs Ahold of you He's strong enough And he's better at wrestling He's gonna throw you around Like if you could
Starting point is 00:57:15 Like that's the perfect The perfect combination Is long and strong Hell yeah Perfect Yeah Sweet Dudes like Seraphian
Starting point is 00:57:24 They buck that trend Right Because they're just tanks But the best It seems to me like Just mechanically The best frame Is the long frame
Starting point is 00:57:32 So you have like The best frame for fighting Fuck yeah Congratulations Thank you I'm in there It doesn't guarantee success But it's a fucking
Starting point is 00:57:41 Awesome base There we go I'm working with something yeah because like short dudes like me can't put big guys in triangles i don't have enough leg room there's not enough like mechanically i'm sure you could figure it out not really no you just you got to give up on that one but long guys can get triangles from all kinds of places okay you'd love it super It's a thinking man's game, too Mm-hmm, you know, it's like you're playing a game. Yeah, you know
Starting point is 00:58:10 The thing that I like about it too is that you can go full blast Okay, whereas like if you're sparring you don't really want to go full blast I heard each other right you want to be tempered measured and just kind of touch each other But when you do sparring in jiu-jitsu because you you're not striking each other, you're just wrestling and grappling, you can go full blast. Okay. It's amazing. I'm with it, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Yeah. I'm super with it. Like, the little bit that I've done, I was like, all right, cool. I can see. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Yeah. I'm down. Definitely. Got to go there. I just love the fact that you're interested in doing different things Yeah for sure I'm a learner
Starting point is 00:58:47 Do you Do you Read books Do you Do you watch documentaries I watch documentaries Yeah I have read
Starting point is 00:58:55 Some books That I gravitate towards What kind of documentaries Do you gravitate towards Like music Really Always about Always about music Let me see What else towards what kind of documentaries you gravitate towards like music really always about always
Starting point is 00:59:05 about music um let me see what else yeah it's always about music like musicians searching for sugar man what was that one that was about this dude who was a guy who was making music but i want to say it was in the 70s and he had like a little bit of buzz on his album and then it died off for him and he went back to work as a construction worker mm-hmm but his music became insanely huge in South Africa he was a superstar and there was all these legends about him he was dead that he you know the just just crazy stories about who he was meanwhile this guy was working as a construction worker
Starting point is 00:59:51 damn so in south africa he's a fucking mega superstar like sells out arenas and spoiler alert it's a great documentary you should see it but he eventually goes to south africa and does this concert there you You'll cry. Yeah. You'll cry. Yeah. You're like, oh, my God. Can you imagine this guy was working as a laborer?
Starting point is 01:00:10 And the whole time he was a superstar and he didn't even know it. And then the people see him. They're singing along to his music. I mean, the guy's blown away. I would love that. It's a crazy documentary. I got to check that out. It's insane to watch.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Like, how could this be true? Yeah. Damn. It's a crazy documentary. I got to check that out. It's insane to watch. Like, how could this be true? Yeah. Yeah. Damn. It's amazing. I kind of feel like I heard the name, but I never, I never, never, no, I never seen that. It's sensational. I got to check that out, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Yeah, it made me cry. I got to check that out. At the end of it, you'd be like, wow. Oh, hell yeah. Imagine this guy's experience. Yeah, right? It's almost like being released from jail or something. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Damn. Yeah. It's incredible. Holy fuck. Yeah, I'm going to check that out. And seeing how comfortable he gets on stage, too. Wow. It was amazing.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Damn. Yeah. His music is good, too, man. Very, very interesting. Is he still alive? I believe he is alive. That's fire. He's alive, right?
Starting point is 01:01:05 I think so, yeah. Yeah. So he's able to see the proceeds from his movie and his movie. Yeah. Hell yeah. But someone said, I think he gave away all his money. Really? I read something, but that might be more of those rumors and legends about the guy.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Oh, legend, another myth. Damn, sugar man. Because he touched so many legends. Jamie, find out if that dude gave his money away. Because I felt like I read that. Come on, bro. But life to him is so surreal anyway. Truth.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Maybe he felt like he couldn't be a real bona fide artist unless he gave away his money or something crazy like that. Because the guy was living in this small apartment. That's why I don't want to do like ayahuasca or anything like that. I feel like that's what's going to happen to me. You want to give away your money? Yeah. Fuck this shit. Like, whoa, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:01:53 That's hilarious. Yeah, it's too tricky. Yeah. You could get so, you know, so charity driven. You just give away everything. Mm-hmm. And then you're working for charities Just walking the earth barefoot
Starting point is 01:02:08 He was on tour last year Touring theaters all over the country Good shit Sugarman He's back He's back He's smacking So there was a fake rumor That he gave away all his money
Starting point is 01:02:20 Yeah Dave Matthews covered one of his songs And they went on tour And he'll blow them up Oh hell yeah damn he was doing good so he didn't give away nothing beautiful he might have but i don't see anything maybe he got it back yeah it's the documentary is really amazing it's one of the best music documentaries i've ever seen perfect thank you yeah it's a good one tell me a good one my documentary oh yeah it's called Behind the Cam. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:45 It's on Apple Music. Oh, I'll get it. Hey, I just did that. I just did that. I just did that. Beautiful. Man, nah. I like to watch, like, I watch this Pink Floyd documentary about how they put together their
Starting point is 01:03:01 albums and shit like that. their albums, shit like that. There's another one about background singers who never became super popular, but they're part of songs that you hear and that you love. And it's just telling the story, how writers and me being in the studio, what it's like to live that life. It's really cool because I listen to harmonies a lot.
Starting point is 01:03:24 I don't know if when you hear music, I hear like all the textures of it. So it's like I get interested in like what goes on sometimes like in the background. And that was a cool story. Fucking, what was the last one that I actually watched? I just watched, I'm watching this show actually. You ever heard Chernobyl? I've heard I heard the show's amazing
Starting point is 01:03:46 That shit's kinda cool Yeah I heard it's great Man it's pretty awesome But that's not music though What is that on? Is that Netflix? It's on HBO HBO coming back
Starting point is 01:03:55 Game of Thrones Didn't kill him Chernobyl is it Really? Yeah That good huh? That show's lit It's all you need
Starting point is 01:04:02 All you need is a big show HBO's back Chernobyl Is it about the accident? Yeah Good, huh? That show's lit. It's all you need. All you need is a big show. HBO's back. Chernobyl. Is it about the accident? Yeah. How many episodes is it? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:04:15 They're streaming them now. Oh, it streams? Yeah, yep. It's on the fourth or fifth episode, I think. Yeah, all those networks that don't stream everything. Yeah. It must suck Yeah To have like a show That has to be on
Starting point is 01:04:26 Thursday night at 8 Losing out Just today's so weird Yeah People wanna watch things Whenever they want to Yeah Like right now
Starting point is 01:04:33 Yeah for sure It's a five part mini series The last episode is Coming up this weekend Oh okay So there you go How Do you think the movie theaters
Starting point is 01:04:39 Will always be here Mmm I Mmm shit Nah I think eventually They're gonna be gone What do you think?
Starting point is 01:04:48 I don't know It's just It's one I kind of I like that they're real You know That there's a place you go They've already kind of
Starting point is 01:04:55 Came and gone twice If you look around Old Hollywood There's old theaters That aren't theaters anymore But there's new theaters That have taken over them But those buildings
Starting point is 01:05:03 Are still there For whatever reason They're still using them. Well, people still like going to the movies. Yeah. It's a night out thing. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 01:05:11 I just feel like it costs so much to keep screens and actually put movies in there, and then you got the popcorn. But it's one of the few things that we do with strangers is be a part of an audience. It's one of the few things that we do with strangers is be a part of an audience. It's one of the few things we randomly do with giant groups of strangers. I feel like technology is removing that because people don't like that. I think people are uncomfortable with it because most of the time we spend on devices.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Yeah, for sure. Communicating through devices. And especially with virtual reality becoming more popular. People love access so it's like if you're making them feel like they're there like why would you want random dude walking across your lap when you can just be in the movie like yeah i feel like they would just spend spend that money on you know keeping you at at home where you want to be. This is just my opinion. I don't know. No, I think you're right, and I agree with you 100%.
Starting point is 01:06:10 But I also think as a community of human beings, it's nice to have things that we all do together. It fosters a kind of getting along better and friendship with people that you don't know. I think that's what's good about sports. I like concerts because of that. Concerts Yeah Yeah When you go to
Starting point is 01:06:27 Grow with a whole group of people Go to see something Like it's nice You're connected to those people Feels good Baseball games Cause I've had fun at games And not gave a fuck about
Starting point is 01:06:37 Like what was going on But it's the community Like what's going on For sure 100% That's what I mean I mean and everybody's Kind of drinking
Starting point is 01:06:44 Having fun That is an important part Of cities And of communities like what's going on for sure 100% that's what I mean I mean and everybody's kind of drinking having fun that is an important part of cities and of communities that's one thing that I think that like a movie theater does provide
Starting point is 01:06:53 yeah I mean for sure concert for sure and I'm not even mad that people don't really go to the movies like that now
Starting point is 01:07:00 because it's like when you actually do want to go you can go and it's not full and it's not you know what I mean like
Starting point is 01:07:07 it'll be people there but it's not overwhelming to the point where you have like it fucks up your movie experience so it's like
Starting point is 01:07:15 it's kind of you know it's doable it's enjoyable it's handleable yeah it's cool it's fun
Starting point is 01:07:21 I like where the movies is at right now I am worried that people are eventually going to all be living in some sort of a VR world. Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's designed to move that way. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:07:33 Like, you give people something and they're going to use it. Yeah. And they're going to get better. Yeah. They're going to make a new one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The new one's going to have extra features. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:44 So it's like all right like you know i get it like fuck have you fucked with any of that vr stuff yeah vr is awesome do you ever do that there's a thing outside of disneyland where you uh there's a vr game that you go through you go through like this little like they have a like a giant room right and the room's set up for the what was it called the voidid is that what it's called yeah holy shit The Void VR and there's a Star Wars one and there's a Wreck-It Ralph one okay
Starting point is 01:08:09 and they're hilarious I mean you're walking around you feel heat from fire they you pick up a plastic gun you're shooting at stormtroopers mm-hmm
Starting point is 01:08:18 and you shit's crazy it's crazy and while you're doing it you're like this is just step one exactly
Starting point is 01:08:23 this is gonna be insane in be insane yeah they're just giving us pieces like bits and pieces like they already have more you think that oh for sure really 100 i don't think that really yeah why not because i think that what they're showing you right now state-of-the-art they're selling it it's the best again it's in competition it's getting better and better all the time but that's a good way to look at it because they put it up myself my phone no no worries man yeah i just think these people are very competitive yeah the the the money is in getting the best shit out the quickest okay and they're all competing with each other so they're putting out like the bootleg version and letting somebody smarter uh test it work it and make the better version then they'll
Starting point is 01:09:06 come back and do that later well that definitely happens too i mean that's uh what china does better than anybody yeah i take some shit and just redo it i'd be feeling like this is just my theory is like vr right it might be so fucking dangerous that they don't know like how it'll let it out yeah exactly so it's like they give us like little bits and pieces of it to like let us you know they spoon feed it to us so they don't kill us and the world just go crazy and it's like you know what i mean like because they probably tested it on somebody and they died like before you know what i mean oh for sure yeah they was like oh shit we went too far it's like hold on let's like pull it back a little bit and just
Starting point is 01:09:50 give them this like you said give them this version of it you know what i mean but i feel like there's more well i think when they when you really don't know what the fuck is going on that's with military stuff i think military stuff like weapons and, you know, spaceships and aircrafts that they're developing, we don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Starting point is 01:10:11 They're doing some shit that we have no idea. Right. But I think with things like consumer electronics, like technology, I think what you see is what you get.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I think this is as good as they can do anything now. They're working on the newest, best shit. Right. You know, and that's coming around. They're always constantly in development. Right. They're working on the newest, best shit. And that's coming around. They're always constantly in development.
Starting point is 01:10:27 They're all competing against each other. There's no way they would hold anything back. Really? Yeah, I don't think so. Damn. I feel like there's a phone that charges in two seconds. No way. You'd have it out.
Starting point is 01:10:38 If you're in a war and your cellular device goes down, it's like you can't plug it in and charge it it has to like happen quick right right so like they have that in my opinion they just don't give it to us they but that all that stuff the i can see your argument because it's you're in a war they might have better batteries like that the military develops or some new kind of battery. That's possible. But there's so much money in batteries. Like there's so much money. If they had a better way of doing it,
Starting point is 01:11:11 like if Samsung came out with a phone that charged 100% in 30 seconds and Apple would have to, they would have to figure out how to compete with that. They would have that out. They wouldn't hold onto that. No one would hold onto that because that would just dominate the market.
Starting point is 01:11:28 It's too powerful, right? It would dominate the market. Yeah, yeah. It's too powerful. But that happens. That's what always happens. Yeah. That's how Blockbuster's out of business.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Right. You know? Right, right, right, right. That's why there's no more Tower Records. Mm-hmm. All that shit happened in our lifetime. Yeah, for sure. Like 100%.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Music isn't even physical. Right. And I make music and it's not it's not real right it's a sound yeah it's a sound and fuck you know i don't know that is a crazy way to look at music what is this the r17 pro which the company's latest is the fastest charging smartphone in the world. It advertises that 35 minutes is all it takes to entirely fill up a dead battery. That was seven months ago. So it's probably faster now. They got something like that for sure. 35 minutes.
Starting point is 01:12:14 So what do you think they can do for a full battery? I would say that there's probably 100 cell phones out there that can charge in five minutes. There's not a million because they can't source that much. Wait a minute. Charge more than this can? Yeah. I would say there's a military phone that they might have 100 of them passed around the military, but it's not mass produced.
Starting point is 01:12:31 And it can charge up in five minutes? Sure. Really? For sure. If this can do 35 minutes, seven times faster. It's easy. You guys are all conspiratorial on electronics. That's not that big.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Yeah. I mean, to me, that's normal. That's a big leap. To me, that shit is normal. This is energy that we're talking about, right? Right, right. Bro, like, cars still move off of gas. Like, that shit is like the Stone Age, bro. Like, shit's going electric.
Starting point is 01:13:00 You know what I'm saying? Like, that's on some spaceship shit. So they, I mean i mean like at the end of the day like they have this shit they just can't give it to you because they they're killing people testing it it's like it's like food you know what i mean like they have to approve this shit before it comes out but they have a car that goes it just crashed into the wall you know what i mean and somebody died it and they're like, whoa,
Starting point is 01:13:25 we can't put this on the streets yet. It's like all of that shit, energy. Yeah. Like, well, you think they have a car that's so fast
Starting point is 01:13:31 they can't put it on the street? They have. I just feel like transportation in general. You know what I mean? Communication, transportation, technology,
Starting point is 01:13:42 the way we hear music, the way that we view things and shit like that. Our whole experience, technology, whatever the fucking word is, we're being spoon fed. FaceTime, you know what I'm saying? It was like you used to have to have the service to FaceTime. Now everybody can FaceTime. You know what I mean? It's like people don't even call each other no more. They just FaceTime. Now everybody can FaceTime. You know what I mean? It's like people don't even call each other no more.
Starting point is 01:14:07 They just FaceTime. So we feel like, oh man, we came up. This was blah, blah, blah. We feel good about that. We feel excellent about it. But there's more. I feel like it's just me. I just feel like they're just sitting on it.
Starting point is 01:14:22 You know what I mean? They're waiting to give it to us. I don't think companies have any reason to do that yeah the only reason to do that would be to get rid of the stock of the stuff that they're already selling that'd be the only reason because sometimes when companies announce a new products coming people stop buying the old product like corvette is having a problem with that right now okay because the corvette excuse me they got this car the zr1 you seen that thing yep thing? Yep. It's a demon. It's ridiculous that you could go to a store and buy a car that has that much horsepower.
Starting point is 01:14:54 But a lot of people don't want to buy them because then there's a new Corvette coming out in like a year. Right. That's a mid-engine, total re-new design. You don't want to be stuck with the old one. Gotcha. People get weird. Yeah. That's true.
Starting point is 01:15:05 So in that sense, they might be holding out on what they're about to be able to do. But like we saw with that foldable phone that Samsung tried to come out with, and then they had to take it back because it was so defective. So many of them were breaking. It was a giant embarrassment, and they pulled the whole thing. Right. And now they're trying to rework it and figure out what to do with it. If a company has something like that happen, and that's the number two smartphone company in the world. They're number one, right? Samsung's number one that's the number two smartphone company in the world. Oh, they're number one, right?
Starting point is 01:15:25 Samsung's number one. Huawei's number two. Apple's number three. That's the number one cell phone manufacturer in the world, and they got that kind of a fuck up? There's no way. They're not holding back anything. I don't think so. I think they're trying to sell the best shit they have right now, and then they're in development with the next level shit right now.
Starting point is 01:15:45 But as far as what they can bring to market, what they have is what they bring to market. I think those on-screen fingerprint sensors, they didn't used to be able to do that. Now they can. You just touch the glass and it reads it. All that shit is like, they're just trying to get it dialed in to the point where they can sell it to enough people and it doesn't break.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Like that stupid folding. Did you see that folding screen? Yeah, it's like a fucking, it was a regular phone, but it folded though. yeah yeah and then it would fold up into like an ipad ipad yeah yeah yeah that shit's stupid but that thing kept breaking okay and you know when it came out everybody's like holy shit this is the future the glass bends i think there's like like you said there's like the the the people who just freak out about whatever's new right right and then there's like shit that really moves the you know i'm saying like like really changes shit you know what i mean sure and there's a huge difference between those
Starting point is 01:16:36 like you've got the people who just want the new shit and then you got motherfuckers who's actually like doing shit that changes things forever. Like streaming changed music forever. You know what I'm saying? So it's like mini discs and all of that other stupid shit that people were trying to do to change music. It didn't work. You know what I mean? And it didn't exist. So it's like the one thing that stands out and changes things forever.
Starting point is 01:17:01 That's what motherfuckers remember. I don't know if they're holding it or not it is what it is but like there's some smart motherfuckers who designed this shit for us you know what i'm saying yeah and at the end of the day like that do you got people who just consume it and they're just like oh man i'm here for for whatever whatever like you know what i mean and then i feel like there's a lot of people who understand it and know how to play off of you know what i mean those people's emotions and that's where you get like you know i mean what we have now and me personally i love everything like i'm not a person who like
Starting point is 01:17:38 is stuck with the old shit or has to have all of the new shit either like i'm just like obsessed with life in general like all of this shit fucks me up but it's crazy it's insane we live in insane times we live in insane time what's cool about today too is that we can go and still like appreciate and use some of the shit from the past like a record player yeah you know use a record listen to some old records right you know and then and realize like wow this is how people used to get their music you sit in front of the record player with headphones on i remember being a kid doing that right right people would listen to albums they open up the album looking at the art that was a big part of an album right what was the photo layout what was the the pictures it's crazy how everybody thinks
Starting point is 01:18:22 like the new shit ruins the older shit, too. Right. It's like people still enjoy everything, man. It's just stages of it. I love that that old shit exists. Yeah, hell yeah. Go back and listen to some of that old stuff. People don't watch tapes anymore, though. You can't get a VHS.
Starting point is 01:18:39 That's not the move. Yeah. I think those are dead and gone. VHS tapes. VHS. Remember when someone would give you a copy of a copy and it was all like every now and then i had little lines through it and shit you get like second third generation copies from friends yeah vhs's are done bro you remember i don't know if you remember this but you used to be able to buy movies right after they came out especially in
Starting point is 01:19:02 new york because dudes would sit in the back of the movie theater. Oh, like the little bootleg joints. Yeah, yeah. You could watch the movie from like, it was... Like a video camera. It'd be like in their video and the movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Yeah, that was crazy. That was a crazy time. Yeah, they weren't hiding shit back then. They were using all of their technology. That was everything they had. That was everything they fucking had. The crazy thing is that's not that long ago. In terms of the human race, that's not that long ago.
Starting point is 01:19:32 That's the 90s. That's so recent. So this is what, 2019? So that's 20 years. So you can go back 23, 24 years maybe. Imagine if you could see what the fuck 24 years from now is it's crazy i've related to like when i was younger in the 90s because i was like a baby in the 90s i wasn't even a teenager so 20 years from then was the 70s yeah and shit was totally like you know i'm saying so it's like
Starting point is 01:20:01 now from 20 years from to for that to be The same time frame Like that shit Is crazy to me You really want to know How crazy it is man Get yourself Into like a 1970 Plymouth And drive that thing
Starting point is 01:20:14 And realize That in 1970 That's how people drove They drive this thing That like It barely knows Where you're Telling it to go
Starting point is 01:20:23 Yeah hell yeah You could do this With the steering wheel They didn't even have Power steering In the 60s and shit Bro like where you're telling it to go. Yeah, hell yeah. You could do this with the steering wheel as you're driving on the street. They didn't even have power steering in the 60s and shit, bro. Yeah, you're right. You had to turn that thing like this. A lot of them didn't. Yeah, a lot of them didn't.
Starting point is 01:20:33 But those cars were terrible. Horrible. And that was just a few years ago. I mean, in terms of human history. Right. If you looked at a block of time in history, like if you looked at the difference between 1820 and 1840, our head it's like that's the same shit 1820 1840 what the fuck was different there was nothing different yep but if you look at our generation 40 years ago to now
Starting point is 01:20:56 it's insane it's true that's it's insane it doesn't even make sense it's nuts it We're barely the same thing. Bruh. It's crazy. It's crazy. Have you driven a Tesla? No, I haven't. Pretty good? They're preposterous. It's a preposterous car.
Starting point is 01:21:16 What's the deal with them? It's so fast, it doesn't make sense. Really? Every other car you drive afterwards will feel stupid. You could drive mine. You got a Tesla? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, You could drive mine. You got a Tesla? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you could drive it.
Starting point is 01:21:27 They're that legit? It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever driven in my life. Fuck. It doesn't make any noise. It doesn't make, it makes zero noise. This makes noise. Stop. Stop. Stop turning my doorbell.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Who the fuck is that? It's a fucking rap music video, entourage style. Girls in their underwear, dancing, bottle of champagne. There's a girl at my house. Someone should just follow you to the camera just to see who rings your doorbell. I do not know who that girl was. Welcome to the party. What were we just talking about?
Starting point is 01:22:03 Tesla's. Oh, yeah. It's a spaceship. It's next level. If you think that they're holding back anything in the automotive world, drive that thing. See, no, that's the thing. I feel like all cars are going to look alike, and they're going to look like Teslas. So you're going to have the super fast one for the elite motherfuckers, but then you're
Starting point is 01:22:21 going to have regular ones, and then we're all going to have the same car. We're all going to have the same phone. We're all going to have the same phone. We're all going to have the same watch. And we're all, because it controls everything. Like, they control your house. So it's like everything is integrated. The TV, the Xbox, it's like you all want it in one. So the only way to do that is for everything to be the same.
Starting point is 01:22:41 So, like, if the Tesla is that ill, I never drove a driven one. But if it's that ill, I don't see why people wouldn't be into it like it's just the pain in the ass is it takes a long time to charge okay is i mean even if you have a tesla supercharger thing like i have one a wall mounted charger that's it's like more amperage it's nice but it still takes a few hours to charge if it's almost dead okay whereas you can get gas in like five minutes. Exactly. Don't they have like portable chargers? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:23:09 They ain't do that yet? No, no, no. You need an insane amount of power to power that thing. But how long? It's got giant batteries in it. It just takes hours and hours to fill up. That doesn't sound like fun. Well, because it goes 317 miles.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Did you see this race they did with the tunnel? Who is it? Two Teslas at the same spot. I guess it's in Hawthorne where they have it. The one on the right is using the tunnel that they have completed, and the one on the left is going above ground. Now, is this tunnel like auto drive? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Oh, fuck that. I think it's got those tracks on the side so that it can stay in place. Bro, look how fast that's going. It goes up to 127 miles an hour. I am so not comfortable with that. And then it slows right down. The way that it moves is different. That's how robots are going to kill us. That's crazy. I'm so not comfortable with that. And then it slows right down. The way that it moves is different. That's how robots are going to kill us.
Starting point is 01:23:47 That's crazy. It's so fast. You can't believe how fast it is. That's insane. That guy's not moving at the top, and the guy's moving very fast. It takes him four and a half minutes to go the same time. It takes this guy a minute and a half to go. But that guy's battery's dead as fuck on the right.
Starting point is 01:24:00 I'll tell you that. If you stomp on that thing for that long, you better be prepared for that shit to drain quick. Especially when it's in ludicrous mode. That's what they call it? Ludicrous mode. Yeah, and now they have ludicrous plus. I don't even want to turn that shit on. I don't need that.
Starting point is 01:24:13 What kind of asshole is unhappy with ludicrous mode? I was going to ask before. Don't you think there's some car company trying to beat them? Yeah. Has to be, right? Tesla has a Roadster. Have you seen the Tesla Roadster? Oh, my God, Jamie.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Pull that up. It's a spaceship. It's this little sports car-looking spaceship that goes zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds. It's a spaceship. It's a spaceship. Look at it. That's the Tesla Roadster. I like that.
Starting point is 01:24:39 It's a dope-looking little car. The roof comes off, too. That's real, huh? Oh, my God. That thing's a demon. What? That thing is a demon. How much does that cost i think it's two hundred thousand dollars it's real yeah it's not out yet i'm working on it oh okay they're working on releasing it soon yeah 200 grand
Starting point is 01:24:56 but look at that 1.9 seconds zero to 60 yeah i don't need that they just seem the electric cars just seem like the future but again that one's going to be interesting because it has 600 miles it can go 660 miles i think without uh without charging which is long distance mine's like 317 okay the new ones the ones they have now are like 317 that's dope yeah that's amazing it's wild like my mind
Starting point is 01:25:28 is literally blown by this shit yeah mine too like for real like that shit blows my mind imagine if you're one of those people
Starting point is 01:25:35 that makes those things yeah like that's your job I feel like it's like really a process like scientific
Starting point is 01:25:42 like you know cause you don't want nobody to hurt themselves. Exactly. You know what I mean? So you have to get it just right. Sure.
Starting point is 01:25:50 So it's like, what's the process of that? Like, what the fuck are they doing, like, with technology and electricity in a car? Yeah. And they have all these safety features. They have auto drive. That's the thing. The driver itself. It's like, it's going to be so fast. It fast this guy have hella safety jesus christ girl i'm just gonna let you in i can't turn this
Starting point is 01:26:11 thing off oh there it is the same girl i don't know she's persistent i don't know who that was she's a go-getter i don't know she can either go get something else but yeah man i mean it's when you drive something like that you realize like oh okay just 30 40 years ago cars were these stinky weird things that barely steered right and now you have these things that it seemed like it seemed like they're from a futuristic movie and you can get them right now it's crazy yo like it's insane because people like okay where are we gonna be without transportation we got to go somewhere right we got to get there somehow what is this jamie i was looking up i thought i saw something today about a lamborghini electric car but this fell into this whole of the
Starting point is 01:26:55 terzo millennio some new it is an electric car by lamborghini that self heals it has some sort of carbon fiber technology that allows it to fix itself if it cracks while it's dry. I don't know. Oh, what? Yeah, sweet. It detects cracks and damages. There we go. It's a fucking transformer?
Starting point is 01:27:12 There we go. I don't know. It's a transformer. It's going to heal itself. I was hoping you had heard of it. No. Self-healing. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:27:19 There we go. It's going to fix itself. Sorry to distract from that. But it's Italian, right? Yeah. Listen to me. That's my people. It ain't going to work. we go it's gonna fix itself sorry to distract from that but yeah but it's italian right yeah listen to me that's my people it ain't gonna work those savages it looks insane though this they're thinking big if you'd want to go on a long trip in a lamborghini you're out of your fucking mind that thing will leave you in the middle of the desert they're thinking big that's
Starting point is 01:27:40 it yeah that is a it's got these weird, crazy... Unbelievably good looking car. Light tires. God damn, that looks like the future. That's fire. Look at that thing. It's a spaceship. But if you take one of those, you know that it's made by Italians. Right? You know it.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Look at that. This is my thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey! When you put the accent with the car, it makes sense. It's so flamboyant. Look at the wheels on that thing what the fuck is with those wheels wow that's crazy an italian spaceship yeah yeah cars are
Starting point is 01:28:12 getting closer and closer to spaceships yeah what if people start flying around you comfortable with that i'm not i don't want anybody landing on my house. Landing on the house. Air accidents. Yeah, man. Those don't seem too good. No. And the regulation of... What lane do you stay in? Yeah, because we work so hard to develop these roads. It's like, where are we going now?
Starting point is 01:28:35 Like, what's going on here? Can you imagine if we had like a floating bubble highway system, right? Like there's balloons held on by rope that go all the way to the ground and that marks the path where you're allowed to fly your flying car through but people don't look and they slam at each other and then man you're out there in the park with your kids regulation would suck on that yeah man sure how do you stop people from well they would have to be autonomous it would have to be like tesla auto drive so it just takes you up and it just brings you around it would have to be autonomous. It would have to be like Tesla auto drive. So it just takes you up and it just brings you around.
Starting point is 01:29:06 It would have to be something like that. That makes sense. Yeah, we couldn't leave it up to people. Not with flying. Hell no. Too many different personalities. Yeah. But then there's going to be lazy people that don't charge their fucking flying car.
Starting point is 01:29:17 And then it gets up there and it's like... Like, you didn't charge it? You shouldn't be able to take off if it's not at a certain... If it's capable of dying... I agree. Ground it. Then we're going to need more regulation, so we have more government. Air laws.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Right? You're going to have to. That's the only way. Yeah, yep. We need more government, more regulations, air cops. We need air cops. Oh, my gosh. The air police. Let's not cops. Oh, my gosh, the air police.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Let's not talk about those guys. Air police. They'll be even more on edge than the ground police. Yeah, than the ground police. Yeah, yeah, because they're in the air. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They're probably going to be super paranoid up there.
Starting point is 01:29:57 For sure, for sure. Well, if we ever do eventually get to space travel, if human beings ever do figure out how to go to other planets and set up a civilization on Mars or something like that, that's probably what the real next level future of humanity is going to be. For sure. Other than artificial life, if we can really figure out how to set up a base somewhere. Do you think you would ever go, if there was a base on Mars, it takes six months to go to Mars? If there was a base on mars it takes six months to go to mars if there was a threat on earth a threat yeah it was like yo earth is about to be fucked up like an asteroid yeah i would you know i would if if mars was all right i would try to go i would take my family and go yeah totally wow totally. Wow. To save my family.
Starting point is 01:30:45 That makes sense, to save your family. Yeah. What if Mars was awesome? What if they figured it out? If it was awesome? Yeah. I'd rather just die on Earth. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:55 I'm cool here. I'm good. I just wonder, once they actually do start going from Earth to other planets, how many people are going to be willing to do that? All the rich folks? You think so? I think rich folks want to go into orbit. I don't think they want to go to Mars.
Starting point is 01:31:12 I don't think there's a whole lot of them. You mean to live there? Maybe if you can come back. Let's say we're far in the future. Vacationing. Yeah, take a little vacation to Mars. It takes six months to get there. Everybody, you think?
Starting point is 01:31:23 If it takes six months to get there, hold on. That's another one. It's a long trip, man. I think a lot of people would do that. I think a lot of people would do it. I think you're right. If they knew they could come back, because then they'd be able to brag about it. People would love to brag about going to Mars.
Starting point is 01:31:36 It's like that time travel thing where it takes six Earth months to get there, but for you it's like two weeks. Ooh. I don't think it works that way, but yeah. I was wondering how does that work. You have to be at the speed of light for that to happen. Now we're getting deep. It might be interesting. You might be able to go save some time if you go do that.
Starting point is 01:31:54 You could lose some time, though. I know that's a fact. If you go into space at a particularly high rate of speed and then you figure out how to come back, your brother, your twin brother would be way older than you yeah damn yeah that makes sense i went to see this brian cox show do you know brian cox is the astrophysicist he had a show he did in la and in the back they have this gigantic screen and it's this real high resolution screen and it showed all of the galaxies in the universe
Starting point is 01:32:27 it showed all of them that you know just all jammed in together with like appropriate space in between them and you look at it and you just go what what the fuck is that like we're in that thing we're one dot in just trillions of dots of all these other galaxies. Damn. Through the known universe. I've never seen anybody show it that way. And one of the things he talked about was that the rate of time is not the same for each person, even on Earth. Like, depending on where you go and what you do and what speed you travel at. If you and I were born on the exact same day
Starting point is 01:33:05 and we both got a watch and that watch was perfectly calibrated and you put your watch on and I put my watch on and then we met when we were 80, if our watches are still working, the time would be different because we've lived through different time. And it might be only like a tiny increment,
Starting point is 01:33:20 like a second or a couple seconds, but enough so that in the the whole unit and it was high as fuck so while i'm there watching this thing the whole thing just blew me away i was like this is a crazy way to look at the universe this is it right here ah yeah if anybody gets a chance if you that's just one galaxy that they're showing that was it's a one galaxy colliding with another galaxy it It's fucking spectacular. Whoa! Yeah. Do you get into space documentaries?
Starting point is 01:33:53 About to. You got to. I just don't believe everything that everybody tells me. About what? About shit like that. So I would have to get it from a reliable source. You would have to tell it from a reliable sports source you would have to tell me like the good okay space shit any neil degrasse tyson ones um uh lawrence krauss has got some good stuff he's got good audiobooks too um that brian cox guy's as good as it goes he's a genius he used to be a
Starting point is 01:34:18 musician okay he's actually in like a pop band okay i think in the 80s or the 80s yeah like a pop band. Okay. I think in the 80s. Was it 80s? Yeah. Like a popular pop band. And he's a legit astrophysicist. And he just talks about space. Yeah. He gives these very entertaining, it was this guy Robin Ince, and they have this like stage show. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:34:37 he comes out and talks about things and explains things. But he explained that time thing to me, that if we lived the same life, that our watches would be different. Yeah, that's crazy. I love shit like that. I'm writing his name down.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Brian Cox, C-O-X, not like the dicks. Yeah. I wouldn't put that name in there. Of course. That could be a problem. Yeah, if you get a chance to see that show, man, it's a good thing to see, too, because it's so different than anything else you go to see. Like, for me, I'm always at comedy clubs. I'm always either in the audience or on stage.
Starting point is 01:35:11 So to be there at this place in the audience of this weird kind of show slash science seminar is amazing, man. That's tight. Yeah. That shit seems crazy as fuck to learn and laugh. Yeah, I got to get you on some science documentaries. Hell yeah. When you're smoking weed and watching science documentaries. It's going to help my music.
Starting point is 01:35:34 That's when the real thoughts come out, kids. Well, you realize there's no getting away. If you know that paranoid feeling that you get, sometimes you get too high. If you have that paranoid feeling combined with a science documentary on space, then you realize, like, yeah, we're all very insignificant. Exactly. And you seem extra high because you're high watching space. Yeah. It's like, yo, this dude is stoned.
Starting point is 01:36:01 Have you gotten high your whole life? I started when I was 16 When you were 16? Mm-hmm I started smoking every day Wow Yeah So right around the time where you were becoming successful as a rapper
Starting point is 01:36:14 Mm-hmm It was really like high school because I hated school And I was just so done with it And I was selling pot, and my mom found out. And she was low-key just super cool with it. It was like, yo, like, I smoke, you smoke, we smoke. You know what I mean? Wow.
Starting point is 01:36:37 It actually helped me get through school, like, to make it. It made it tolerable, like, you know what I mean? Sure. I was able to deal with, like, the shit that sure i was able to deal with like the shit that i didn't want to deal with because i'm an intelligent kid i just really didn't like school i didn't like the school that i went to was good i went to a nice school but it was just i grew up in a time where it was like you know what i'm saying it was weird so well every school for every kid is not what you want to do every day it's just not what you want to do every day. It was just not what you want to do every day. And like you got teachers who say certain things to you.
Starting point is 01:37:07 And it's like, all right, I understand what I'm really here for. You know what I mean? And I see who I am to you and you let it be known. It's kind of hard to like take those people serious and want to do the work and all that shit. Want to follow their lead. Yeah. And it's like for me, that was the bare minimum. It was like graduating high school.
Starting point is 01:37:29 It's like I could move on with the rest of my fucking life after that yeah weed helped me get through high school i don't say that for everybody i ain't gonna say that for everybody help me i believe you yeah it makes sense yeah there's a lot of shit that's not that fun but when you're high it becomes interesting a lot of shit yeah yeah that's why air travel air travel is always better when you're high way better way better and you could take thc pills you can eat edibles you do whatever you want you become like appreciative of the experience exactly yeah yeah yeah just be up there flying for real yeah there's something to me about music listening to music too in a plane while you're high it's just it has like extra impact like headphones on a plane surrounded by all these people no one's talking flying through
Starting point is 01:38:10 the sky going 500 miles an hour 30 000 feet above the rocks and that music kicks in yeah yeah something about old music too for me like like lately i've been getting into a lot of like really old rock and roll you know just just imagining what it would be like to like to be around those people you know see keith richards and mick jagger in the 70s or you know to see little richard to see j Brown live. Hell yeah. To see James Brown perform live. God. Yep.
Starting point is 01:38:49 It's hard for us to imagine there was nothing like that before them. There's levels of impact that those early musicians have that it's hard to really historically put into place because there wasn't anybody like them before that. Nope. No rock and roll stars. No rap stars stars think of how recent that is yeah that's super new stand-up comedy is only about maybe like 70 years old or some shit like that maybe maybe really maybe you could say 100 if you want to get crazy but rap is like 30 30 years old 40 maybe maybe 40 yeah yeah yeah and it keeps evolving it keeps evolving yeah like music in general um my favorite genre is like pop music like i love anything that could be considered pop because it changes with the times but you have these
Starting point is 01:39:47 mega stars you know what i mean who just transcend like like it's it's it's like so they're they're larger than life like michael jackson you know what i'm saying like he's bigger than just music you know what i mean like and you you become a legend as time goes on, but to be a living legend, living in those times and to be around those people and to really hear their music and experience them and shit like that, I feel like that shit is crazy. And it's a gift for the fans. It's a gift to be that person.
Starting point is 01:40:24 It's a responsibility as well. But just to be the one, like Beyonce. You know what I mean? That shit is crazy to me. To be the one. Yeah. Michael Jackson was the one when there was no one before. There was no real one like him.
Starting point is 01:40:42 I mean, there was Elvis, and that's about it. There was other ones that were big. were very popular very famous but michael jackson trans he transcended so hard i was listening to wbcn radio in boston it's a rock and roll station and they were like i know there's a rock and roll station but this song is so fucking good we're gonna play it anyway and they played michael jackson yep and we, wow. And he had been performing since a kid, so he worked his whole life to get to be, what was he, like 30 or something like that when he was at his peak? Yeah, probably when he was at his peak. Yeah, yep. There was no roadmap for him.
Starting point is 01:41:17 Nah. That shit is amazing. Amazing. And he did, you know, funk music, and he went through disco, and you know what I mean? And it just was like, wow. Yeah. Yeah, man. And I would have loved to have seen him live before the controversy.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Right. You know, just to just experience him as an artist. Yeah. Without having anything attached to it. Yeah. What he did or didn't do. I don't know what he did. Right.
Starting point is 01:41:40 You know, I have no idea. Right. Doesn't look good. Right. But I would have loved to have seen him Without the burden of that Feel me It must have been insane And only just to
Starting point is 01:41:49 Just to see like He was Like a Like we're saying It needs to be a different word For work You know Because sometimes it's not work
Starting point is 01:41:59 Right It's a passion It's way better than work He's a different He should have a different word For a star Yep Because he was like a supernova Yeah He was some rare thing Yeah yeah yeah It's way better than work. He should have a different word for a star. Yep.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Because he was like a supernova. Yeah. He was some rare thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That might happen once every hundred years. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean, even there's legends like Elton John and Rod Stewart and fucking, there's all kinds of legends.
Starting point is 01:42:19 But then there was Michael Jackson. Right. He was above all of them. Yep. It was a mania. Yeah. Kids would dress like him everybody wanted to wear those thriller jackets right right yep there's an art to it i feel like every
Starting point is 01:42:30 musician has a choice like if they want to go there with it right yeah i feel like elton like the elton johns and like even like prince and shit like that they stayed true to exactly who they were not that michael jackson didn't stay true to who he was, but he put himself out there for the world. He did everything. He had cartoons. He had sneakers. He did everything.
Starting point is 01:42:55 He bought the Beatles music. Yeah, he bought, yeah. You know what I mean? Fucking dude owned other people's music. Yeah. But like, yeah, hell yeah yeah he was doing hella shit yeah i just think um there was no roadmap for the poor guy right you know yep when you're living in that fantasy world that nobody else can understand right right and there's no one before you and then
Starting point is 01:43:20 everywhere you go people are screaming he never had a break. No. There was no breaks. He couldn't do anything. No, hell no. Hell no. Nothing normal. Nothing. That's crazy. That would suck.
Starting point is 01:43:31 I wonder what that would be like if Michael Jackson came around today and he didn't exist before. He would for sure be a huge star. But I wonder if it would be as crazy because there's so many more stars now than there were back then because of the internet because there's just more venues and outlets for musicians for for basically everyone for comedians for everyone right there's more outlets yeah so because there's more outlets there's more famous people right i wonder if he would be as crazy it would be as insane because back when he was that famous, there wasn't anyone that was parallel.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Not even close. Yeah, man. Do you listen to old stuff? Yeah. What do you listen to? I like... I do like 90s R&B now. But I like funk music.
Starting point is 01:44:24 I like Bootsy Collins. All right. I love Jimi Hendrix. He's one of my favorites. I like Curtis Mayfield, Marvin Gaye, freaking Kool and the Gang. Fucking, I listen to everything, bro. fucking uh i listen to everything bro i i like a lot of the older soul music like the spinners uh patty labelle you know what i'm saying but i was raised on everything my dad listened to bob marley he listened to uh freaking uh oh we used to listen to a lot of sting and the police
Starting point is 01:45:02 really i mean i love sting He's one of my favorites. Just all the jams, you know what I'm saying? Like the classic shit. You could put on any song, like for real, for real. And I fuck with it because I listen to a lot of different music. And yeah. Marvin Gaye, man. Yeah, he's one of my favorites.
Starting point is 01:45:21 He was phenomenal, man. Yeah, Marvin Gaye was really good. And his tragic story. That was crazy. crazy his dad shot him it's so crazy i i dated a girl once this girl was so nuts and uh i i we were talking about marvin gay no no we were talking about marvin gay and i was saying like it's like it's so insane that his dad shot him and she said imagine what a piece of shit he had to be for his dad to shoot him yeah right and i was like what i go no no no no no no no why would you assume he's the piece of shit when his dad fucking shot him if he's a piece of shit why doesn't his dad just get away from him no his dad's shooting him his dad's a piece of shit like but it was amazing she was
Starting point is 01:46:01 like instantly thinking he's a piece of shit yeah I'm like, I don't get your logic. It's crazy. That's someone with a good dad. Everything different. That's because she's someone who grew up with a good, she still loved her dad. She was close with her dad. Yeah, so I was like, oh, God, I don't even know my dad. To me, I'm like, that dad shot him because he was Marvin Gaye.
Starting point is 01:46:19 He's probably upset that his son had become Marvin Gaye. Truth. Imagine being Marvin Gaye. Truth. Imagine being Marvin Gaye, too, where all your songs are the best music to fuck to. And he didn't have... There was no slide into the DMs. They had to find him physically.
Starting point is 01:46:36 But he seemed kind of like a faithful guy. He seemed like he would find one chick and just fuck her and write an album about it. That would be a good narrative. I think it's hard for those dudes. If they're singing about fucking all the time, like one chick and just fuck her and write an album about it. That would be a good narrative. Mm-hmm. I think it's hard for those dudes. If they're singing
Starting point is 01:46:47 about fucking all the time, it's coming their way. It's a tsunami. But they usually, like, just want to fuck one girl like that. Right. Those love songs.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Yeah, exactly. When the music's dark, like, Eazy-E, you know what I mean? He's fucking mad, bitches. He wasn't talking about, like, just one. Right, right. You know what I mean? He wasn't on his Marvinvin gaye shit that was what i remember because he said sexual healing you know i mean when you get that feeling he
Starting point is 01:47:12 needs sexual healing like the shit made him feel better yeah when he was with her that's a big difference between the nwa's first album big difference in the message sexual healing there's some shit from like the early gangster rap days you listen to today you're like whoa yeah yeah like this is this is crazy stuff i remember it at the time when it was first coming out and no one knew what like no one could understand there was no music like this before and then all of a sudden you have iced tea yeah that was before they even had the freaking parental advisory on there. They made that because it was like, yo, parents, make sure y'all check this out before your kids get it. It was Al Gore's wife.
Starting point is 01:47:56 It was Tipper Gore. She was the one who was in charge. It was like she was leading the charge against, I think it was her. Make sure I'm right about that Is it? I'm not mad at that That made rap music better You think so?
Starting point is 01:48:08 Hell yeah It made it more dangerous Oh but put the extreme Yeah It's like a rated R movie They were trying to ban some stuff though They were trying to ban Certain kinds of music
Starting point is 01:48:18 Like Luke And like All gangsta rap Oh yeah Well that was Florida Florida's crazy Don't fuck around in Florida If they catch you in Florida
Starting point is 01:48:26 Yeah I'm good They arrest people for Anything You can get arrested for obscenity in Florida Yeah I'm straight I'm good I'm not going to Florida Florida was a
Starting point is 01:48:34 Well I'll go But I'm not going crazy in Florida Yeah Briar County Yeah Just don't get arrested for swearing Yeah You know what I mean
Starting point is 01:48:42 That's what they got Two live crew for Yeah Explicit lyrics. Yeah. Fuck. I'm good on all that. People forget about that, right?
Starting point is 01:48:49 Yeah. Those guys were like the Lenny Bruce of rap. Right. Lenny Bruce is a guy who got arrested a bunch of times for stand-up comedy because he wouldn't
Starting point is 01:48:57 change his words and his swearing on stage when he was brought in front of the court. That was two live crew in a lot of ways. Imagine going to jail for like...
Starting point is 01:49:04 For rap Yeah That's crazy It's crazy For saying something For saying something Somebody doesn't like it So they want to put you in a cage
Starting point is 01:49:11 Wow Because they don't like how you're saying Wow They don't like what you're saying They don't like how you're saying it Like could you arrest someone If they just said that somewhere What if they're in the comfort
Starting point is 01:49:20 Of their own house And they said the things That are in that Is that illegal? Yeah. Could you yell it out the window? Yeah. Could I drive down the road yelling it out the window?
Starting point is 01:49:30 Right. Should be able to. It should be able to. Who the fuck are you, man? Who the fuck are you to tell people they can't do that? But then Florida, they're like, nope, obscenity. For rap. Florida's like its own world, though.
Starting point is 01:49:42 That's why when shit goes down, it's like, all right, and then it's Florida. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so its own world that it's being overrun with invasive species. A lady got attacked by an alligator just yesterday. You hear about that, Jamie? I feel like that happens all the time down there.
Starting point is 01:50:01 Happens all the time. More often than not. Yep. More often rather than not. Nope, that's not even a good way to say it. More often now than before because there's a lot of them. Yeah. I could imagine being a gator, not having nowhere to go, just kicking it in Florida.
Starting point is 01:50:16 Want to eat some stupid lady. Yeah. Like, look at this slow bitch. And I've been around for a long ass fucking time. I'm hungry as fuck. Florida's fucking crazy. Let's eat. And you just look at that time. I'm hungry as fuck. Yeah. Florida's fucking crazy. Let's eat. And you just look at that lady like, she's so annoying.
Starting point is 01:50:29 Yeah. Maybe no one will even notice. I don't even eat ladies, but I'm going to do it today. Most of them eat dogs. They love to eat people's dogs. That's what's fucked up. See, it's a good snack. If you're an outlier.
Starting point is 01:50:40 I love dogs, though, so I don't know. But if I was a gator, a dog would be a good snack, for sure. It's a good meal. I would prefer a dog than a lady. Yeah, people have clothes on. Exactly. They're going to digest their sneakers and shit. Man.
Starting point is 01:50:53 That's annoying. Yeah, man. Shoes don't taste good. If you didn't live in California, what state would you live in? Hmm. If I didn't live in Cali, what state would I live in? if i didn't live in cali what state would i live in not georgia not florida not pennsylvania not new york not new york huh no too crazy maybe upstate new york ah yeah maybe upstate that's too too cold, though. You got to worry about ticks, too. Yeah, fuck ticks.
Starting point is 01:51:25 Fuck ticks. Yeah. Everybody gets Lyme disease out there. Yeah. Damn. I don't know. I never thought about that. When the shit hits the fan.
Starting point is 01:51:35 I love California so much. The tsunami rolls over us. Maybe I'll go to Australia. Every time I'm on the highway nowadays and it's jammed up bumper to bumper, I just say, imagine if something happened. This is just Thursday. It's a regular Thursday and it's jammed up Bumper to bumper I just say Imagine if something happened This is just Thursday It's a regular Thursday And it's bumper to bumper
Starting point is 01:51:49 Imagine if some shit Went down That'd be fucked up People wouldn't know What to do When it rains out here People don't know What to do
Starting point is 01:51:55 They panic They slam into each other They forget how to drive It's like dog It's just rain It's just water Coming out the sky Jesus Christ
Starting point is 01:52:03 It's a strange place To live right Because people aren't Tested out here By climate Yeah yeah On the east coast for coming out the sky. Jesus Christ. It's a strange place to live, right? Because people aren't tested out here by climate. Yeah, yeah. On the East Coast, they're tested by climate. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:11 That winter comes. That snowy wind comes. You got to get the fuck inside. You got to winterize your car. Yeah. Got to get snow tires. Yeah. That's real.
Starting point is 01:52:21 My fuckers out here don't know about that. They don't know. They don't know. They don't know. 350 tornadoes last week. Where? Yeah, I heard about that. In's real. My fuckers out here don't know about that. They don't know. They don't know. They don't know. 350 tornadoes last week. Where? Yeah, I heard about that.
Starting point is 01:52:29 In the Midwest, wherever Tornado Alley comes in. Shit. Yeah, they got fucked up, man. Damn. That was like Ohio and where else? Kentucky, I think? Yeah. They just handing out tornadoes.
Starting point is 01:52:40 Missouri got hit hard. Yeah, man. I mean, I don't know if that's really because of climate change that those are ramping up. But if they ramp up in unprecedented levels like that and it becomes impossible to live in Ohio or Kentucky or anywhere
Starting point is 01:52:55 where there's tornadoes, can you imagine how nuts that is? If we find out that the center of the country is just tornado, like a tornado bowling area. Wow. Just a bowl filled with tornadoes. In Florida, you're just dodging hurricanes most of the year. They just get lucky if it doesn't happen where you are. Yeah, you get lucky.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Yeah, you're a dick sticking out into the ocean, and it's right where all the tornadoes get formed or all the hurricanes get formed. They all get formed there. That's where they all go, right? Because it's like warmer waters, right? Here we go. We're going to get started right here.
Starting point is 01:53:27 Yeah, fuck hurricanes. I've been in a little baby hurricane before. And I was living in Boston, which is pretty far away from the ocean in terms of where my house was. And it's still, it was like, wow. And that was a little baby one. It was nothing. By the time it got to us, it was nothing. I lived in Japan for two years.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Did you really? And they used to have some crazy fucking earthquakes over there. Oh, really? While you were there? Yeah, they had earthquakes and typhoons. You saw both? Yeah. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:53:54 Yeah, hell yeah. What was the earthquake like? Bad. You never been in one here? Yeah, I've been a baby one. Oh, okay. I've been in like a 5.5. Bro, I'm talking about whole room just shaking like it's
Starting point is 01:54:06 like a ride at a universal like because you see shit moving it's like damn is this really happening and this shit happens bro like the earthquakes over there are insane wow yeah yep and they get some crazy rain like when the typhoons come that shit gets really violent too yeah yeah yeah the japanese are you know they they they hold it down what were you doing living over there my parents are military uh my mom was in there for a little bit but then she got out and then my dad was in there he got out but remarried so that's how i stayed uh in the military thing was my stepmom and uh i would move we would live on base you know i mean for like two years or whatever and then i would move back with my mom wow what was it like living in japan it was crazy
Starting point is 01:54:52 like it was fun i lived there in the late 90s so it was like when technology was first changing like music was just now going into mp3s and shit like that. So there was that. Pokemon was really popular over there. It was fun just being a kid, running around, fucking it up in Japan. It was cool, man. It was fun as hell. That's an interesting little extra level to your brain, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:21 You grew up those two years in a completely different kind of culture. Yeah, totally. So you have a different understanding of what's possible right 100 i think that's so big for kids man show them shit yeah yeah it helped out a lot for sure um yeah it was cool it has to right as far as your perspective uh-huh it's being around i've only been to tokyo for a few days only once and i was like this is one of the trippiest Places I've ever been in my life It's crazy It's so interesting
Starting point is 01:55:47 It was crazy Living there was wild Like No TV Like regular TV They don't got any Like American TV stations Oh wow
Starting point is 01:55:56 So for two years I was just like Disconnected Yeah Like I didn't have shit Yeah It was crazy So this is before Netflix
Starting point is 01:56:04 And everything too, right? Uh-huh. Or YouTube. Mm-hmm. Wow. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:10 That was probably really good for you. No, it sucked. I couldn't watch wrestling. But I bet it was really good for your brain. No. You don't think so? I need that. I need my entertainment, man.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Fuck that, yo. I need to be a part of the world. I couldn't buy all the CDs and shit that everybody was listening to. It was whack. Did you learn to speak Japanese? Just a little bit. Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Wow. Baby Japanese just to get around and shit. But I forgot it, though. You forgot it all? Not all of it. It'll come back if I, like, you know what I mean? You run me through it. But I can't sit here and say no Japanese words.
Starting point is 01:56:44 How hard was it to learn? It wasn't difficult No? Nah nah It's not difficult Reading it is difficult Oh Yeah
Starting point is 01:56:52 It's different Because they have symbols Or characters So it's like One character means Like three of our words Oh Mmhmm
Starting point is 01:57:00 Wow Yeah yup And then they have like Three different styles Of writing it too. So it's like we have print and cursive. Oh, no. They have three different ones. Oh, that sounds so annoying.
Starting point is 01:57:13 Yeah, it's weird. On one hand, you don't want it to go away because it's an ancient language. But on the other hand, you're like, can you just clean this up? Simplify this shit for me, please? I honestly think they got it down pat. You know what i'm saying they don't even want us to have a fucking know that shit you know what i'm saying like at the end of the day they're like we'll learn english if we want to but if you want to learn japanese it's
Starting point is 01:57:35 gonna be difficult bro i want to learn some asian language because i i'm fascinated by reading like twitter messages from you know how much i mean more characters they had yeah they can write books because I'm fascinated by reading Twitter messages. You know how many more characters they had? Yeah. They can write books. Yeah. 140 characters. How many words is that, though?
Starting point is 01:57:52 Yeah. That's a lot of fucking words. It's true. If it's 280. True. I mean, 280 of those Asian, whether it's Chinese or Japanese, those little symbols, that's a lot of talking, man. Yeah, man. It's hard to put the ingredients on shit.
Starting point is 01:58:06 Oh, yeah. I'd imagine. Do they have symbols for numbers or just use numbers? I forgot what the numbers look like. I think it's symbols. Really? Yeah, yeah. I don't imagine that it's like one, two, and three.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Oh, wow. Right. I never even thought of that. Yeah, yeah. What does, Let's go with Japanese Does Japanese Does the Japanese language have symbols
Starting point is 01:58:33 That represent numbers Like you would write the letters T-H-R-E-E for three Like that Like you would write three or you'd be the number three Do they have that in Japanese? Nah cause Japanese is like Ichi knee sun she oh uh there's different different whole different words for it so it's like one is ichi so it would however the symbol however you spell that in japanese i'm starting to kind of remember what it looks like now.
Starting point is 01:59:07 Do you think if you could move back there right now, you'd just get right back in the swing of things after a while? Sure. David Lee Roth moved there from Van Halen, the lead singer of Van Halen. He moved down there and took kendo lessons. He lived there for like more than a year. I would probably appreciate it More now as an adult You think so? Yeah, yep
Starting point is 01:59:27 Cause as a kid You kinda just wanna run wild And do everything That you see on TV Oh, so you must be annoyed That you were stuck there It was kinda weird You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:59:36 I was 13 Like Wanting to Like go crazy It was fun for a little while But Yeah You wanna go back home
Starting point is 01:59:43 And shit You know what I mean? Of course. But as an adult, I feel like I would benefit a lot more from it. Yeah, yeah. So at this stage of your career, when you're looking at what you're putting down, when you're making albums, when you're putting together your music, what excites you the most about it?
Starting point is 02:00:04 I'm a huge fan of music in general. So I get just inspired off of, like, production and shit like that, like the newest producers and shit. Because I like to go out. I like to enjoy myself. I like to have fun. So whatever is popping, like, at that time, whatever the sound is, whether it's West Coast inspired or if it's down south inspired,
Starting point is 02:00:24 that time, whatever the sound is, whether it's West Coast inspired or if it's down South inspired, I'm just interested in finding my own way of doing what's new and what, what my fans would love from me because, um, like as a music person, you want something new every time you don't want the old shit all the time. You could go buy that. So I just love creating and just coming up with what's new you know what i mean like i work with the newest producers i work with the newest artists i work with you know i mean i try to i try to make my shit sound different every time i always tell my engineer i'm like yo let's fuck with the shit sonically so it don't sound the same as the last album like right come up with new ad libs or just different shit to just kind of
Starting point is 02:01:06 keep it fresh still do what people know me for you know what i mean but it's like just coming up with new ways of doing that i get excited that's awesome to hear i love it when someone loves what they're doing and it comes out great yeah thank you it's beautiful to see it really is and that to me is one of the most inspiring things um that i get out of any artist it's like hearing them talk about their process i don't know why i get i always get jazzed up i love it it's crazy for me because like there's different ways to to do what what i do like i have so many ways like i could sit there and just come up with some shit like brand new, or I have like this, the Oreo commercial with my son where it's like,
Starting point is 02:01:49 there's a team of people who like come up with what could be the best for me. And I just do that shit. And then it just goes crazy. You know what I mean? It's like, see you again is one of my biggest songs. And that song had like eight different people on it. But I wrote two verses that the person who made the original song,
Starting point is 02:02:08 I wrote two verses for it that they loved more than anybody else's song. I mean, anybody else's. So they gave me the whole record, and it ended up being my whole, I mean, one of my biggest songs. You know what I mean? Wow. So it's like the process of just putting yourself in the situation and just being like, all right, cool, let's work.
Starting point is 02:02:24 That's beneficial as being, as beneficial as being you know i mean a creative just okay i'm gonna do what i do you know i mean sometimes you got to step outside of that and just use your talents it's like being an actor or you know what i mean like you just fill in that spot that people need you in and i'm kind of at that point in my career because I worked so hard and grinded and done so many things and come up with so many waves and ideas that didn't exist before. Now I could use other people's ideas and just be myself and still, and get,
Starting point is 02:02:57 you know, a really big effect and everybody is happy. Beautiful. Yep. Dude, you're living the life. You got it nailed Hell yeah
Starting point is 02:03:05 Congratulations Hell yeah I had a great time talking to you man Thank you bro I really appreciate it man I appreciate you too bro Very nice Thank you sir
Starting point is 02:03:12 Thank you Hell yeah That's it everybody Bye Yeah Awesome That was great man Thank you.

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