The Joe Rogan Experience - #1314 - Charlamagne tha God & Andrew Schulz

Episode Date: June 19, 2019

Charlamagne tha God is a radio presenter, television personality, and author. Andrew Schulz is a stand up comedian known for his work on Guy Code. Check out their podcast called "The Brilliant Idiots" available on Spotify.

videos boom and we're live uh ladies and gentlemen charlemagne the god my man andrew schultz yeah for being here thanks for setting this up thank you for having me sir thank you my pleasure i've been a fan of yours for a while you i think you're the last great radio host and you will be the last famous radio host because i think radio is a dying thing you're the last great one you're the you're the one who made it famous from radio who the the fuck else? Yeah. In this era? I mean, yeah, I think radio is like one of those rare lanes where it's really not a lot of people who prosper in it. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah. You think about it, especially in the black radio space. I mean, you've got the Tom Joyners, the Doug Banks, the Wendy Williams. Yeah. You know, so it's rare in that lane. But I think you've got people that have established good careers in radio. That's a great question. Who is the last one?

He's the last one. You're the last person to become famous from radio. Last samurai. 100%. I've got to give Bobby Bones. Bobby Bones. Well, that's nice. I don't know who that is.

Shots fired. Shots fired. I know who you are. Sorry, Bobby. No disrespect. No disrespect. I'm sure he's great. He's a nationally syndicated radio host, but he's on the country stage. shots fired shots fired I know who you are sorry Bobby no disrespect no disrespect I'm sure he's great he's a nationally syndicated radio host

but he's on the country stage he just won he won Dancing with the Stars oh okay yeah Joe's like

I don't give a shit I only know Bobby B as you talk about him really yeah yeah he's got two New York Times best selling books

he's a that's one of those things though it's like comedians like you know you talk about a comic that everybody loves and people are like,

I've never heard of him. Amongst comics, super respected. Bobby, he hosts on Idol now. Oh, okay. Yeah, and we're around the same age, so I would have to put him in that. Fine, you and Bobby.

You're a gracious man. In my opinion, you're the last samurai. It's true. It's a dead era. It's true. I see guys like you, I just want to snatch you up

And bring you over to podcasts Like get the fuck out of there Get out of that censored Boss man world You know what's interesting What's it called Keep going Keep going on this

You guys I know you guys have a podcast together The Brilliant Idiots But you know we do You know PodTrack right Yeah sure sure Like we just cracked PodTrack The Breakfast Club

He was number 20 on PodTrack Oh okay so you put that online as well Yeah we put it out as a podcast That's a good thing Cause I feel like with radio That's what it is Like people still listen to terrestrial radio PodTrack, The Breakfast Club. He was number 20 on PodTrack. Oh, okay. So you put that online as well. Yeah, we put it out as a podcast. Because I feel like with radio, that's what it is. People still listen to terrestrial radio, but you have to go where the people are. So you have to have the podcast. You have to have the YouTube following.

You can't wait for people just to come to radio every day. I wish you could swear, though. So that's the problem with radio. Well, they do. That's the thing. So they release all the interviews they do on Breakfast Club, and those things explode. Yeah, on YouTube. And they have all the curses and everything. club and those things explode on youtube and they have all the curses and everything found out about exactly i think that's where most people globally

yeah would watch and listen i mean yeah right yeah that's what separates this radio this era of radio from other eras of radio like howard stern didn't have youtube you know i'm saying if howard stern had youtube it wouldn't be no question he'd still be the motherfucking guy i mean even though he is the guy Right But he'd still be like Super super the guy in this era Right He's in that paywall Which is very strange

That serious paywall That's the strangest paywall Yeah Yeah he took the check But then you get Financial independence man Check It's a big check

Let's be realistic He was already financially independent So why'd he do it The numbers they're throwing at him Yeah that was a different level It was 300 million right Yeah Well I think that was just initially

Yeah that's the difference I think he makes like 100 million every year Or something crazy So 300 was flat And then another 100 And then he had so much stock Like that's the difference

Between like your kids being scraped And like your great great great Grandkids being scraped Right Yeah but stock in serious To me is like blockbuster stock Hang on to that Blockbuster stock Me Hang on to that.

Blockbuster stock meant something at some point until Netflix came the fuck along. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember when Netflix used to have those DVDs that you would get in front of the fucking

supermarket. Yeah, the Redbox shit. You have to send them back. People were like, who's fucking, I'm not sending this back. No, I was so funny. I was home this weekend.

I was in Monkcks Corner, South Carolina. And there was a Black Panther DVD from the library in my mom's house. I'm like, what the fuck? The library? Wait a minute. Black Panther is in the original Black Panthers? No, the movie that just came out. I was like, yo, she was true from back in the day.

Okay. That's an original Black Panther. I'm like, who got the Black Panther DVD That they checked out from the library And have not bought it back yet You didn't even bring it back to the library yet Nah you don't have to Like What are they really gonna do

Why would you bring the Black Panther from the library Cause you wanted it And it was there And you were at the library I'm still trying to understand Why you call it library What is it Library

I don't fucking know I didn't graduate college Library It's like Library Yeah It's one of those words you know

don't bail him out you know what I'm saying library like especially you ever talk to people in Texas they say especially or X but everyone

even like George Bush when he was president would say especially yeah that's a Texas thing yeah yeah I think a lot of it has to do with region

because I still say screed screed strong okay yeah wow that's the shock and lie Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do with region, because I still say Screat Screat Strong. Okay. Yeah. That's the shock and lie. That's how I pronounce it. Screat Screat Strong.

I get it. I get it. Scrumptious. Yeah. I say pacifically. Oh, pacifically. Pacifically instead of specifically. As long as everybody knows, then it's fun.

That's the point. If you understand what a person is saying, why correct them? Right. He's being a dick. Well, it's fun. That's the point. If you understand what a person is saying, why correct them? Right. He's being a dick. Well, it's like dialects. Like, my grandparents were from Sicily, and they would talk in dialects. And even people that knew Italian wouldn't know what the fuck they were saying. Yeah. Like, people that knew pure Italian.

It's some weird, like, pig Latin type shit. Yeah. You know? I mean, my mom's Scottish. Like, if you listen to real Scottish people talk, you don't understand what the fuck they're talking about. Oh, that accent. understand what the fuck they're talking about. Oh, that accent. The way they roll their words together.

Thick. And then they get them drunk. Oof. It's impossible. Oof. Where you from, Joe? I was born in New Jersey, and I grew up mostly in Boston, but really all over the country. Because you've got a lot of stubborn sensibilities.

Before we started the podcast, you was talking about all the hunting that you do. I didn't get into that until 2012. why because i was thinking about being a vegetarian i was like i i was watching these animal rights videos right pita videos and i was like i don't want to participate in this factory farming shit it just it's fucked up you watch these pigs slammed into these cages together and cows and chickens i was like this is inhumane right it's insane you decided to go out and start killing them yourself? I decided one of two things. Either I was going to try hunting, and either I was going to become a vegetarian, or I was

going to become a hunter. And so I became a hunter. I did it. I killed a deer. I ate it. I was like, this is perfect. I love this. Oh, I'm trying to figure out.

This makes sense. I'm trying to figure out the thought process. You watched videos where you saw that it was inhumane for these animals to be dying. No, no, no. And that made you want to kill them? Factory farming. Factory farming. Look, every animal dies.

They don't live forever and become angels. They live in the wild. When you hunt, you dip your feet into the wild. You go out there and you fair chase. You go find them. You track them. You stay downwind. You get in a good position.

You kill them. And then you eat them. Right. them. You stay downwind. You get in a good position. You kill them. And then you eat them. Right. And it's a different animal. When you're eating that, like if I eat an elk steak, I know that I killed that. It's delicious. Yeah. I know that.

I was there. Can I see a picture of this elk? I'm still trying to imagine what it is because I understand deer and I understand moose. It's a giant deer. Those antlers are from the elk. Those antlers are on like an 800-pound animal. How tall is it? It's huge.

They're big. Like six feet? Oh, taller. Yeah. Yeah. Elk and mushroom. It's big. Moose is crazy.

The first time I saw a moose, it was like that scene in Jurassic Park where Jeff Goldblum looks out the Jeep and sees the dinosaur. I was like, you can't believe how big a moose is. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a moose in person. I've seen an elk in person. They're double an elk They're double the size of an elk Yeah yeah we need to go hunting man

You want to go hunting I'm being dead serious about this I would love to take you hunting Camping and hunting Where it's one or the other Well you could do both Okay Or you could camp

Or you could hunt rather And then stay in a nice lodge That's the move Yeah but also I kind of want to do like the The full outdoor Yeah because sometimes I watch those shows On like Nat Geo

Or something like that And it's They're just living off the land And they gotta like make a hut Or make like a yurt You know They make it out of snow Yeah don't do that

Don't do that No But what for What if like two days Like a cool You want What you want is like a real tent With a real sleeping bag

Yeah So you stay warm And you're healthy And you're not worried about Fucking freezing to death or anything weird like that yeah and make sure you have water filters so you could drink out of a stream if you really want to do that yeah yeah i want to try you should try hunting in new york like nobody's ever done that like you can hunt rats i'm serious think about all them big ass

rats in new york like nobody's ever done that i'm not lie. You'll probably get a lot of attention for that shit. Bro, back in the day, you could go to 125th Street in Spanish Harlem, and you could buy pigeons. People were catching pigeons, and they were selling them and trying to front like they were exotic pigeons. Bullshit. I swear to God in my life. Well, you know, pigeons were brought over here for food. That's what squab is. What the fuck is squab?

Squab is like a bougie restaurant item, and it's actually young pigeons. Really? Yeah, that's what squab is like a like a bougie restaurant item and it's actually young pigeons really yeah that's what that's what squab is yeah i didn't know that all pigeons all the pigeons you see in the united states are all brought in from somewhere else for food and then they release to become feral they're like the wild hogs of the bird world what are young rats called that are used for food it's a good question who uses young rats for food i don't know but there's a there's a comic that rats documentary no this is well this is just the dogs that hunt rats in new york oh yeah i don't believe that shit what do you mean you don't believe it that they're really guys sending their dogs out to go get rats oh they are oh for what there's so many assholes yeah i guess i mean they're not gonna fix it there's no way to fix it but like jack

russell terriers they fuck rats up they're designed to fuck fix it. There's no way to fix it. But Jack Russell Terriers, they fuck rats up. They're designed to fuck rats up. But there's got to be people who live up north in New York who have the same desire to hunt. They just don't go down south. So why not go hunt the rats? They hunt deer. New York has a lot of deer. Jersey. Yeah, Jersey.

Jersey got a lot of deer. I live in Jersey, and that's one of the reasons I love Jersey, because I'm from South Carolina. So I'm used to seeing deers and possums and just different types of wildlife running through the streets. That's why I like living in Jersey. Yeah, Jersey's an unusual place. Jersey has more black bears per capita than any state in the United States. I don't know if that's a fact, but I believe you because I've seen them myself. Yeah, they're everywhere.

You've seen bears on your property? Not on my property, but when I used to stay with my aunt in the Poconos, the bears used to come in her backyard because there was a scream in the backyard and they would come in there and just grab fish out of the screen. They killed a kid. One bear killed a kid a couple years ago from one of the colleges.

What college was it? The one near New Brunswick? What was it? Rutgers. You never seen the video in Jersey of the walking bear? The bear that would walk on two feet through people's backyard?

Yeah. It had a bad front paw. That was so bad. No. Hell yeah. That shit happens There it is Look at it

Look at the video The bear walking around Oh yeah Look at that See that's a Bigfoot Yeah that's You know who believes in Bigfoot

Yeah You have a believer In the studio right now Who believes in Bigfoot Do you really Yeah absolutely Oh okay No no

100% believes in Bigfoot But you know why I believe in Bigfoot Because of shit like mooses. You know what I'm saying? I'm serious. If you see a fucking species like a moose, you're like, my God. Why would you not believe? Look at that shit.

At some point in life, somebody was trying to explain that to somebody else. And he was like, man, get the fuck out of here. Right now, when he's trying to explain it to me Look at the size of that goddamn thing Yeah that's insane And elegant Look at those legs Work

They'll fuck you up too Those are the rare deer species That will fucking stomp you to death Yeah they're used to dealing with wolves If they think you're a threat They just run up on you and stomp you to death Why don't you believe in Bigfoot? Well I actually did a television show

Where I went hunting for them You were going to do it on Finding Bigfoot? No no no I did a television show where i went hunting for them you were gonna do it on finding me no no no i did a show called joe rogan questions everything we spent a whole week in the pacific northwest talking to bigfoot hunters yeah we camped out there me and duncan trussell went and interviewed duncan scientists and interviewed all these different archaeologists all these different people that didn't believe and did believe it was a real animal at one point in time yes i don't think it exists now i think it existed it's just a primate in the fucking woods yeah oh okay you don't think it exists oh i thought you believed that it exists now i did up to a certain

point but i was like in this era with all the cameras and everything else somebody would have caught one okay good yeah i was a little worried no i was like no no yeah i don't believe in it now i believe it existed at some point but but I don't believe it exists anymore. Let me tell you something. Charlamagne has this amazing power to manifest shit. Okay? So I see how it could lend itself. When you believe something so much, it becomes real.

Right. Right? I can see how it manifests itself into things like Bigfoot. Like, you believe in things. I mean, Sasquatch, it's not a far-fetched idea It's literally just a primate in the woods I'm just saying When you were young

And you believed That you were Teen Wolf Yeah That was true No, no, no I did I did I was in third grade

I did But he believed That his ears actually changed shape No, they did I was sitting at the lunch table I was sitting at the lunch table And I was sitting at the lunch table and I was telling everybody I was going to turn into this werewolf at lunch time.

And I was saying this for like a week straight and we was all sitting at the table and I was just sitting there like, it's going to happen. It's happening. And my ears actually went from round to pointy for like two seconds. And when all the kids at the table saw it and jumped up

and ran so they fucked up my concentration so if I had kept that concentration going I probably would have turned full fledged werewolf in that moment

maybe levitated possible I've done that before really oh yeah I used to I grew up Jehovah Witness so I used to leave the kingdom hall

and I would walk outside of the kingdom hall and I would like jump in the air and be looking down at the kingdom hall and I'd stay up there for a while and then I would come down but here's the thing he's not he's not

doing bits right he really believes this shit i'm just telling you what happened in my life if you believe it you believe it if you don't you don't memories a strange thing ah you think it's one of those like you recreate the past well memories a strange thing like you you can believe something and know something to be true when it didn't actually happen you can absolutely do that i mean there's what what you have people have memories in their head that never happened you have memories that people positioned in your head they've proven that you can talk someone into a memory you can change someone's memory that's why it's particularly dangerous for kids when you know there's a whole case where they were talking kids into saying that their teachers molested them

Yeah, and all these people like lost their careers lost their lives turned out was all 100% made up But those kids believed it they believed when they were telling them that they were molested. They believed it. Yeah, that's why What is it called when you give that information to the police? What is it called when they like interrogate you? We say interrogation can be bullshit. They coerce you. Yeah, they coerce you. Well, there was a whole article I was reading the other day about why people make false confessions. Why?

They just get talked into believing that they actually did something. You're scared to death. If you're a kid, especially a young kid from the hood, and you're like 15, 16 years old, and the police are like, you're going to jail for 20 years if you don't tell us what we need to know. You don't fucking know no better. Not only that, they put you under duress. They put you in a room They sit you across

From a position of authority And this person questions you You start talking You start saying things That aren't true You've seen Beyond Scared Scrape They tell you You're going to get 20 years

And get butt fucked For 15 of them So the first five 15 They let you kind of Settle in for the first five Yeah You know the butt fucking coming

Let that butt Get nice and tight Let that butt get nice and tight. Let that butt dry age. Five-year birthday. Dry age. Like some elk. Listen, you might go in underage. These criminals got morals inside you.

They're going to rape you, but not until you're 18. Come on now. They're not monsters. Listen, when I was young, I used to have a red tractor trailer. It was a red plastic trailer with a farmer on top of it. It was like one of those hard plastic trailers. That farmer used to get off that trailer and fuck with me. And I took it in the yard one day, put kerosene on it, and set it on fire.

And in my mind, I remember hearing that farmer scream. My mom will even tell you the story of how I used to always talk about how this fucking farmer used to come off of this tractor and fuck me and she was she saw me set it on fire and i thought i was crazy until years later i met uh tiffany haddish and she said she had experiences where her teddy bears used to come to life and fuck with her so i'm just saying i'm just saying shit happens all this did it happen and i haven't heard this did it happen at night when did it happen? I don't remember I can't remember I don't remember like the details

Of when it was at night Or during the day That's one of those things They're trying to figure out With UFO abductions Okay You know almost All those UFO abductions

Happen while people are sleeping And they think what's happening Is your brain is releasing Endogenous psychedelic chemicals And it's forcing you To have these hallucinations And that you really do believe You're taking aboard these ufos and gone away but if someone is watching you with a camera nothing actually happens question people swear by it have you ever

had one of those dreams where it feels as if someone's holding you down to the bed that's the hag the hag's riding you i mean that's a term they really call it a sleep paralysis but growing up in south carolina they would say the hag was riding you Okay What the fuck is that? You would either put a Straw broom at your door Or you would take salt

And sprinkle salt at your door Because when the hag Enteres your room You got to pick up Every kernel of salt So by the time he picks up Every kernel of salt It's fucking daytime

What is a hag? A hag was like These little old women That they say would come Ride people in the middle Of the night Whoa I think I've seen them before But it really looks like Just a shadowy figure And it's the same feeling Like these little old women that they say would come ride people in the middle of the night. Whoa.

I think I've seen them before, but it really looks like just a shadowy figure. And it's the same feeling. You get that feeling like your body is frozen. You can't move. Your eyes are open. Yes. But you feel like you're talking, but nobody hears you. They say that's the hag ride.

What do they say that is? Like what the scientists say? Sleep paralysis. Yeah. The blood's not flowing in your body. It's like when you're sitting on the toilet too long and your fucking leg goes your legs go yeah yeah i think it's a psychological thing i think your your brain is just not sending signals to your body but you want to move and you just don't dude i gotta move but i can't yeah no that shit's frightening i had that before and i've had that before and i had uh when i woke up it was this you've seen the movie

signs yeah so it was this creature that looked like he was from the movie signs but it was purple and black and it was standing over me and i couldn't move and so i was making noises trying to get it to go away and as the sun came up it just faded away now that i don't know if it was a dream or an actual visit from uh extraterrestrials it could be the thing about extraterrestrials you believe believe in them? Well. You know I believe in them. Well, you believe in everything. The reality is. You believe in toys that can harass you as a child. There's no evidence but the numbers of humans. I mean, the numbers of planets, rather, that could support humans.

They're pretty, just what we've documented so far is pretty interesting. Just what they know about the thousands of planets they discovered. There's hundreds that could possibly support human life. and then there's hundreds of billions of galaxies so the idea that we're the only one not only that neil degrasse tyson explained this to me this is a mind fucking half that the universe is so big that not only is there another you out there that has done everything exactly as you've done to every pause like that pause every pause down to the second yeah an infinite number of times yeah yeah you're talking about is it called the uh infinite in an infinite universes there's this exact conversation happening people look exactly like that because infinity implies that there could be a million infinite

variations there's one where you get up right now and you have to take a piss. Right, right. And you run out of the room. Or Charlemagne's there, you're here, I'm there. There's one where you get up and you're mad

that we don't believe you that you saw Bigfoot or something. Yeah. That kind of shit. Yeah. The idea that when you think of infinity. Right.

We think about it as being really big. It's not. It's impossible to put in your head that infinite, infinite universes, like the size of the universe 14 billion light years apart infinite numbers of those not only that they think that inside every galaxy is a supermassive black hole and inside that black

hole may be another universe with hundreds of billions of galaxies with hundreds of billions of black holes inside each one of those hundreds of billions of galaxies hundreds of billions of black holes that it's fractal and that it's impossible for you to even conceive yeah i think it's very so you're saying just based on the numbers there has to be something it has to be now the question is you gotta be to think that we're the only life in this i don't think we're the only life in the universe i'm just saying like whether or not it's reached us it well yeah i don't think it's reached us and if it has reached us it's like they have to find a way to bend time right because time is the biggest issue no i'm gonna tell you what the problem like we're earthlings right yeah and

if you look at how diverse the earth is like there's different species of shit in the woods different species of shit in the water different species of shit in the jungle different species of shit in the sky why wouldn't the earth be i mean the universe be just as diverse yeah and we're assuming sure it is we're assuming we're the smartest life form in the universe no no no i'm not at all and sure it is all i'm saying is life has an end right what is the the oldest species on the earth right now what if turtles lived like 200 or some shit like that what who lives more than freeman is the oldest species on the goddamn planet. So let's say it's 200, 300 years, right? Let's say that's the max.

Now we have 300 years to travel millions of light years away to get to another galaxy to see other planets to see if they have some shit. And they have the same for us. So let's say there is another species that somehow found a way

to take the consciousness that they have and put it in a robot that can then last for thousands of years then they would have the opportunity to come here but we're limited by time right you will die before you get somewhere like we can go to mars we can't come back i think we're i think we're basing that off our intelligence there might be a species in this universe that can fly to Earth the way we fly to L.A. But that's what I'm saying.

They would have to bend time. Not necessarily. What they could do is fold time. Or fold it, whatever. You know what I mean. Create that wormhole effect where you're going, where instead of it's not linear,

it's whatever. It's in some movie. The idea is you take time. It was in Event Horizon. They talked about how they did that. Remember that movie? Yeah, and there was another one too with Matthew McConaughey.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Interstellar. Interstellar, yeah, where they get into, like, space time. Space time is really interesting, right? It's like the faster you go, the less you age, right? So if somebody is in a plane flying around. In comparison to someone here. On the earth, right?

So if someone is flying around the earth in a plane versus us sitting on earth, they will age fractionally less, right? So if you just increase their speed and decrease ours, or keep ours at the same, they will, let's say, not age at all compared to us aging like 30 years. Even crazier. Brian Cox, I went to see his Cosmos exhibit. Wait, that's the astronaut? He's a physicist. Okay.

From CERN, from the Large Hadron Collider. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has a bunch of different podcasts and shows. He said that if you were born and right next to you, like your mother and you, both put on a watch at the moment you were born, and then you check that watch 30 years later, if you have a perfect watch, it was never out of time,

your watch would have a different time than her watch because you have gone through time differently than she has. Fractionally. I don't understand fractionally because the amount of the how fast you travel it you you you experience time in a different way the path you take in life the the different terrain you travel over the earth all those factors play in to how much time has passed let's say you live on the top of a mountain and she lives at the bottom. You're actually traveling at a faster rate, right? Because it's no different than like, let's say there's a ball on a tether, right? And you're just swinging it around in a circle, right?

The ball at the end is actually going faster than your hand in the middle swinging around. Gotcha. Right? So since you're going fast, you're actually aging slower. And we're talking about fractions of seconds. Gotcha. Right? So since you're going fast, you're actually aging slower. And we're talking about fractions of seconds. Yeah. But over the course of time, it proves that everyone experiences time at a slightly different rate, which proves Einstein's theory that if you do travel very fast in a spaceship

and then come back, you would look at your brother who was your age and now he's 100 years old and you're only 30. So I think I figured it out how we can time travel. Or not time travel, but I think I figured it out how we can time travel. Or not time travel, but I think I figured it out. All right. So we're trying to create, okay, and again,

I don't know shit, but this is just me like, you know, pontificating. Brilliant idiot logic. This is brilliant idiot shit right here. Okay. So what we have to do

is go faster than the speed of light in order to time travel. I don't know how to do that just yet. But what I think we can do is we're trying to use like rockets to propel us at a certain mile per hour to get close to the speed of light. Fuck the rockets.

Why don't we use light as wind and create a sail that harnesses light? And that sail will naturally take us the same speed or as close as we possibly could get to the speed of light. They did that in a movie called Sunshine. I'm a fucking genius. You've seen this shit, bro? I'm a fucking genius, Jamie. You saw Sunshine and didn't tell anybody. Where the fuck is that?

Sunshine? How could you see that movie? I don't even know what an elk is. Science fiction. Come on. Come on, Joe. It's a science fiction movie. I'm talking to Bob Lazar tonight.

That was the guy I was telling you. I wanted to bring you to dinner. I'm going. You too as well if you want to come. He's a guy who worked at Area 51. I didn't even know if we could talk about this today. He's doing the podcast tomorrow. I believe in Area 51.

I wasn't going to bring it up. Oh, Area 51's real, but this guy literally worked on what he says are alien spacecrafts. Spacecraft that sail on sunshine could be the next big thing. Bro, you should work for NASA. Jamie. This is public school education. He can get you a job at Trump Space Force that's it

and I don't want to do any of the math I just want to throw the ideas out there and I think I got it 10 mil this is a legit Space Force shirt

from Trump's from Trump Tower Tim Dillon bought me this yo shout out to Tim I love Tim this is real this is with the real fucking Space Force

this is the logo that's hot dude I thought you got that from Target or something I didn't know. I did. I was like,

I missed that cartoon and that whole movie. I went to fucking Space Force. This is the real Space Force. This fucking goofy shit. You said you had a friend who works on alien spacecraft? Oh, I don't know him.

That's what I told you tonight. I'm meeting him tonight. He's on the podcast tomorrow. But he worked at Area 51. Is he allowed to talk about that shit without getting killed? He is because he's been

talking about it for decades. Really? Yeah, and they've tried to discredit him. He's very controversial. A lot of people think he's full of shit. There's a recent documentary by Jeremy Corbel, and the more you look at the documentary, he knows too many things. He knows too many things that prove that he absolutely worked at Area 51.

He got arrested for bringing people to a lookout peak to look over where the area where they would launch these spaceships. And he's got video of these things flying through the air

doing all these maneuvers that no conventional spacecraft could do in 1980, whatever the fuck it was where he got arrested. They must have some type of NDA with extraterrestrials.

Where they don't talk about it? Yeah, I feel like the U.S. government or just governments in general throughout the world have some type of NDA with these extraterrestrials. The NDA is we'll kill? Yeah, I feel like the U.S. government or just governments in general throughout the world have some type of NDA with these extraterrestrials. The NDA is we'll kill you.

I don't know. That's how it works. They probably use the same one Leonardo DiCaprio uses on his girlfriends. Dude, he's got the greatest NDA in the history of the game. For now. Holy shit.

NDAs mean shit anymore. Nobody gives a fuck about NDAs, bro. You can pay people and they don't care. They'll come out and talk about it later. We had Lisa Ann on a podcast, right? The porn star?

Yeah, called Flagrant 2, right? And Lisa Ann came on and she was talking about NDAs and how stupid women are for obeying them. And I was like, what are you talking about? And she's like, what do they have to lose? They don't have any money. Exactly. So she's like, you have a bunch of fucking heels in your apartment. You think that Leonardo DiCaprio is going to take your heels?

You could break any fucking NDA, but for whatever reason, they get scared. You pay a woman a half a million dollars, tell her to keep her mouth closed. She breaks the NDA. In the NDA, it says she has to pay you back. We want money. Exactly. You're going to be waiting on that money forever. We want money.

My favorite one is Bill O'Reilly. He had to pay a lady $32 million. There's no pussy worth that. I need to see what she looks like. Can we look at this woman? I need to see that. Bill is into some wild shit. There's no picture of this woman?

I need to see $32 million pussy. I would love to. I would love to see what she looks like. $32 million. He agreed to it. He must have did something have He must have did something He must have did something He didn't want nobody

To even remotely hear about Bill's getting pegged Bill's getting pegged 100% getting It's not even about What actually happened It's about what the person Said they did to you

That can ruin your reputation She's got pics Especially in 2019 She's got pics She's got pics She's got videos Something's going in Bill's ass guaranteed

DNA She's got his shit Under her pics She's got videos Something's going in Bill's ass Guaranteed DNA She's got his shit Under her thumbnail I guarantee And then a guy like Bill Has to keep a certain Like I guess You know

Standard about himself Right You have to look at him A certain way In order to listen To what he's saying Yes In order to take his

His information You know Correctly I guess Seriously Seriously Yeah yeah yeah So he could lose all that equity

in his audience if he's out there doing wild shit. He did. He actually did. He didn't help him. He's gone anyway. Is it over for Bill?

Well, he's not on Fox News anymore. He's podcasting now. He was the number one guy and they were like, not worth it. Yeah, man. That's why you got to

go. Take out Bill to fuck out of here. Y'all be talking about Cancel culture Bill really got canceled For real Game over

In a big way And I think he does do Some type of broadcasting now But nobody cares Well he Let out a book And the book was Number one New York Times

Bestseller After Fox Yeah he does His history books Yes You know I don't even think He writes them

I think he just Puts his name on it I wonder about a guy like Bill though Because think about it Like you started your own platform You know what I'm saying And people really care about your voice Did people ever really care about Bill's voice?

That's the thing right Old white people did Nah but check it right So it's like sometimes you become a mouthpiece For a network Or for an ideology they believe in And this is the difference This is how you find out if people really fuck with you

The second you leave that network It's like when people leave espn and you never hear about them again it's like oh you thought you were bigger than espn right you thought you were bigger than the sports right fuck out of here they just want you to say strike ball that's it yeah so i think we learned that bill really didn't have all that cachet that we thought we had that's why like the espPN is a good analogy. That's why you got to give people like Skip Bayless props. You got to give Jamel Hill props.

They can go other places and people still care about what they have to say. Even if it's just in tweets. Right. I don't even know what Bill O'Reilly's Twitter handle is.

I imagine something like Bill O'Reilly. I'm sure it is. But you don't ever see him. He's never known for like, oh, Bill O'Reilly said this on social media. When's the last time

you heard Bill O'Reilly say something? He might not even be on. That made some news. say something he might not even be on they made some news yeah he might not even be on it's tough bro yeah he's podcasting from his like apartment or something like that dude is there's no background nothing really yeah it's bad he's not even wearing like suits he's got like a nasa rugby shirt dude it's bill o'rogan bro bro we gotta look him up we gotta see the girl he fucked in him and see how they're living right Dude It's Bill O'Rogan bro Jesus Christ Dude Bro we gotta look him up We gotta see the girl

He fucked and him And see how they're living right now I think guys like that They say we'll just lay low For a couple years And then someone will Scoop you up again But there's only one Fox

And when Fox lets you go If you're one of those guys Those neocon guys Like you don't really have Any place else to go And he's too old To really understand The landscape of like How to navigate this new internet

space. Because you've got plenty of conservative voices who don't have those big platforms. The Candace Owens, the Tommy Lawrence. Ben Shapiro's not on TV. Look at him. Wow, no makeup. He really is. Look at the undershirt.

He's wearing a nurse's outfit underneath that button down. He's got no pants on for sure. He guaranteed. Yeah, that's dad all right. Yeah, his balls are sweaty. Yo, I think that is the Space Force shirt's got no pants on for sure. He guaranteed. Yeah, that's dad O'Reilly. Yo, I think that is a Space Force shirt for real under the button-up. It really is. Look at it.

Dude, what size is that button-up shirt? Did that chick take his wardrobe? He's got a fat gut now. He's been drinking. No, this is not good. That's weird. No spin news. Watch the full no spin news. Nobody gives a fuck.

Bill O'Reilly.com. No, we need to get Some new shirts Or they got 581,000 views On whatever video that is What is this It's on Twitter There are no charges

You are presumed innocent In this country This is not what The left wants What is this about What is he ranting about That's April 19th But maybe we trip

The Mueller report Scroll down How many people Are watching that How many people Have him on Twitter How many followers 3 million followers

He has And that video Had 581,000 views Can you look at him Right there in that video Right now go down Now scroll down Do you think he's doing

The orange thing To reflect Trump 100% He's bringing him in What Look at that That's 100% the orange thing He looks like turmeric

Yeah but he don't look Anything like he looks In real life That's like an Instagram hoe One of those weird filters. Like, look at him there. Look at him there. That's Fashion Nova Bill.

Look at him there. Now look at him there. Come on, bro. If you met him in a restaurant, you'd be like, wait a minute. You gotta update your picture, son.

That's why you had to pay that woman $32 million to talk to this guy. She's fucking disappointed. Yo, go down. It keeps getting more orange. Go down. Bro, that's hilarious.

Yo, maybe we trip's hilarious maybe people are watching they're definitely watching it he's got 500 000 views yeah they're definitely watching it but now he's in the vacuum but it's those crazy old white people that live in kansas yeah but they don't have twitter hey man a win is a win you know i'm saying if you got 580 000 people that can watch when you put up a video and you can still get paid for it i'm cool with that that's true you know i'm saying i think we put too much emphasis on like whatever main screen. There's no such thing as main screen

because there's not just one screen anymore. Right. Now it's over. That's why, and shout out to Brandon Shaw, that's why we wanted you guys to connect because I feel like you guys represent the most,

I think you are both the most influential people in media, right? And you represent- Don't put that kind of pressure on me. Well, I think- Don't put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby. I think you are both the most influential people in media, right? And you represent- Don't put that kind of pressure on me. Well, I think- Don't put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.

I think it's important. I think it's important. No, because I think you guys represent, and I think the illusion was, before I went on, before I went on here for the first time,

the illusion was that these things operated in separate spheres, right? That there were these different vacuums, like the Charlemagne world, right? And then the Rogan world. And then I went on,

and I found all these people that knew me from our podcast that also listened to yours, right? So it turned out in that moment, I was like, oh shit, it's not as fractured as people think. No. Everybody's aware. Yeah, people have always been hitting me for years,

like, yo, you gotta go on Joe Rogan, you gotta go on Joe Rogan, you gotta go on Joe Rogan. So it's clearly that the worlds collide. It's all interconnected. Especially this internet wave that we're on right now. The internet wave, people are craving this type of information. They're craving the type of interviews you guys are doing and talking to the people you guys are talking to, right?

And I don't know. For me, this is really cool just to see this. Well, people like the fact that everybody could do everybody's show. It's not like Jimmy Kimmel never does the Seth Meyers show. Thank God. But you know what I mean? It's like everything is not, that world is very disconnected. Whereas this world, the internet world is like,

like with the comics and podcasts, there's no competition. Everybody helps everybody. Everybody supports everybody. No, you help everybody. I mean, that's one thing I've always noticed about your platform. You've always brought on up-and-coming comedians who just needed that extra push for people to know who the fuck they are. You know what I'm saying? That's important.

I saw you had Miss Pat on yesterday. I love her. Shout out to Miss Pat. How can you not love Miss Pat? Shout out to Miss Pat, bro. Genuinely funny. Miss Pat is a force of nature. Force of nature.

And her story is insane. Like, you can only take a story that sad and that tragic and turn it into a sitcom she was talking yesterday she was talking yesterday about her ex-husband who shot her in the titty

in the titty shot her in the head shot her in the titty shot her in the back of the head shot her in the titty got her pregnant was fucking her when she was 12 got her pregnant when she was 14

with two kids by the time she was 16 she had an abortion when she was 16 with his third kid she called him up to try to get him to apologize to her he wouldn't apologize to her so she forgave him and she said it released like this huge weight off of her shoulder she was talking about it like you can't believe her story i'm not with that she's laughing about of course not yeah i'm not i

got yeah that whole forgiveness thing we talk about that all the time i'm not, yeah, that whole forgiveness thing. We talk about that all the time. I'm not with that whole, like, I forgive you and it makes me feel better. I'm fine not fucking with you. I'm fine saying, fuck this guy, fuck this person. Like, I don't care. Like, why do I have to forgive you? When I saw, you know, the Emmanuel movie just came out. You know, the shooting that happened in Charleston, South Carolina. And, like, all of the family members forgave Dylann Roof.

And I'm like, there's one dude in there that's like, fuck him, he killed my mama. I'm not forgiving him. I'm like, yes. Like that's a perfectly fine emotion. You go talk to your therapist about it. You allow yourself to feel like, yes, fuck him. Why do we feel like we got to forgive?

And a weight comes off our shoulders. I think for her, it was like she was carrying it around her whole life. I think for her, it just helped her. And she knew he was a piece of shit. When she was talking to him, she said to him, you were fucking me when I was 12 years old. And he literally said this to her, your mind, your body wasn't 12. That's what he said to her. And she was just like, so she decided after that, I'm not going to invest my energy in this.

I'm going to let it go. Let it go. So she just doesn't fuck with him, doesn't talk with him. to that like i'm not going to invest my energy in this i'm going to let it go yeah let it go so she just doesn't fuck with him doesn't talk with him but she doesn't she doesn't carry around the hate that was a it was poisoning her yeah i get it and i understand the power of forgiveness there's a reason why it exists right there's a reason why it's you know it's still here for thousands of years this idea of hey let's forgive so that we could feel better right i think i think i think usually things get weeded out If they don't work

Well it's hard to forgive Someone who doesn't feel bad About what they did It's one thing If you're like Man I fucked up I'm sorry Please forgive me

Yeah You're like I get it You're a person Human beings make mistakes I forgive you Yeah but But if someone is like

You weren't 12 With your mind Your body And he's talking about Fucking you When you were 12 years old Like I have an 11 year old daughter The idea of a grown man

Fucking her No we gotta go bow hunting Makes me violent Yeah yeah yeah Yeah you're not gonna forgive him No You might fuck him up And then after you fuck him up

You'll be like You know what it's all good You know what I'm saying After you put a fucking arrow In his fucking gut In his head that's it Oh yeah it's all good So maybe forgiveness

Is like misconstrued Maybe you're not actually Forgiving the person And letting them off For what they did But maybe you're just Removing them from your consciousness People forgive maybe you're not actually forgiving the person and letting them off for what they did but you maybe you're just removing them from your consciousness people forgive when they're not going to do yeah people forgive when they have realized i'm not going to slap the out it's like when someone huge punches you in the face you're like i forgive you

you know what you got it i'm attaching myself to jesus right because i can't carry this no more mike says it spits in your face. I forgive you, Mike. We don't know what we do. We don't know what we do sometimes. We make mistakes. We all make mistakes out here. In the street when somebody gets punched in the face,

you're like, yo, all right, you got it. That's forgiveness. That's forgiveness. Listen, it's forgiveness. I'm a Christian. I'm not going to be out here fighting you, Mike. You're not going to attach me to the worst parts of my nature. By the way, that's probably when I would get to that point of forgiveness when you want to do something

to somebody so bad but when you get the opportunity you don't and you realize it's not that important to you then at that moment I might be like you know what God bless him man I wish him the best when you guys have like surpassed people in your career that were pieces of shit to you as you were coming up did

did the anger that you had towards them totally leave your body? No, absolutely not. You hold on to that shit. I write books about it. You're like Jordan at the press conference. I'm more than allowed to forever. I need you.

And by the way, God bless you, but the facts are the facts. You did fire me. Right. You know, Boogie D from Philly. This guy is wild. You did fire me for no fucking reason. You did.

Boogie D. It happened. I know you're listening. Hey, Boogie, what you doing right now? Boogie, how you feeling? He does radio in St. Louis. He does? Yeah, yeah, because they told him that if he fired me

and whatever he bought in didn't work, they was going to send him back to St. Louis because he had moved from St. Louis to be the PD in Philly. And so he fired me. What he bought in didn't work. Right. And they kept their word. And they sent his ass back.

Back to St. Louis. It was probably the best thing for him, though. Yeah. But everything worked out for everybody. He's living a great life in St. Louis. I'm living a great life. Life. Have you seen that Jordan, what is it?

Yes. What did he get into? Yes. Not the author. What was it? It was Hall of Fame. Oh, yeah, the Hall of Fame speech. He wouldn't stop talking about journalists.

Bro. He remembered every single thing. And that was his, he's Bernard Hopkins. Remember? Remember Bernard Hopkins, the fighter? He needed to be the villain. He needed to be the heel for the motivation. Y'all don't use that?

Y'all don't have people that shitting on y'all and like, you know. When I surpass them, it goes away. When I surpass them, it goes away. It's weird. It's like bullying. I'm not saying it goes away, but I have to remind you. I have to remind you that you told me I wasn't going to make it. I have to tell you this. When I was starring

out as a comic and it was rough in New York and motherfuckers were just dickheads to you, I used to carry a list of people who were pieces of shit in my wallet. Of all the people I was going to say, fuck you too when I passed them. And as I would start to pass them, I felt zero, I felt zero anger. I almost started to feel bad. Yeah, I don't have anger. I was like, oh shit, you're still in the same place.

That's why you were a dick to me because I was all you had to be a dick to. Well, that's the type of person that were a dick to me Cause I was all you had To be a dick to Well that's the type of person That is a dick To someone who's coming up The person who's like That's famine mentality Yes You think there's not enough

Yes So you try to keep people away Get away Get away Whereas the people That don't have famine mentality Like come on Come on let's do it

Plenty for everybody Yeah Plenty for everybody I don't have anger Like I've been fired Four times from radio You know what I'm saying So I'm not angry At the people that fired me.

But the people who told me things like, there was a guy named DJ Kaz in Charleston, Cyclone who told me, my first time I got fired, he told me I would never work in radio again because I was an asshole. And then Boogie D told me, this is why you'll never make it in radio. So those two individuals just need to be reminded. People need to know that they made those calls. Wouldn't you like to know

the person that cut Michael Jordan from the basketball team in high school? Yes. Wouldn't you like to know the person that didn't hire Oprah as a newscaster

back in the day? Wouldn't you like to know these people? I just want to know these people. And by the way, I've had other executives in radio,

you know, like, salute to my guy, Doc Winters. Doc Winters told me that other executives in radio, you know, like, salute to my guy, Doc Winters. Doc Winters told me that one person in particular, he would never hire because they fired me and couldn't give him a reason why. When he asked him why, he was like, I just didn't like what he was doing. And he was like, I never hired that person. So that's why certain people need to be told and reminded about the dumb ass decisions they made. Oh, dude, like a psychopath.

He holds some strong grudges. Like a psychopath. I like it. That's great. But the difference is also that you get hired for these jobs, and you can get fired by these assholes. Yes. And there's always that weird power play between producers and executives. It happens with television shows and networks, and it happens with radio.

It's a power play. The thing about comedy is it's like you just know, you just work at a different club. There's no real, I mean, there's a little weird struggle between you and the other comedians, but there's no real struggle between you and the club owners. You go in there, you sell out, you kill, and you're friendly to everybody. They don't give a fuck. 100%. They're like, thank you.

Here's your money. Bro, they do not fucking care. And it doesn't matter how much of a diva you are. Everybody knows this story in comedy. Eddie Griffin, you know Eddie Griffin's writer? Eddie Griffin is the best writer in comedy I didn't know he has a writer When did he get a writer?

Oh he's had it forever Oh he had a writer? No writer mean like the thing that Oh writer You're talking about me pronouncing shit wrong I thought you were talking about You said writer I was like Eddie got a ghost

Eddie writes his shit Eddie can go man Eddie's great So but apparently his writer Which means like the shit that's in the green room Eddie writes his shit. Eddie can go, man. Eddie's great. So, but apparently his rider, which means like the shit that's in the green room. Yeah. And he needs a brand new pair of Air Force Ones for every show. A lot of people do that.

What? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people have like sneaker riders. Wait a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm fucking up because I haven't asked for anything but water. You would think sneakers are the most important thing in standup, right? Like you need a comfortable fucking shoe, right, when you're on that stage.

Hold on. There are more than just Eddie has. Yeah, some guys have it where they want a fresh pair, size 11s, whatever they wear, right there. So they get to the, they never want to wear them at all until right when they get on stage. That's it? Yeah. What's in your rider? stage that's it yeah what's in your rider i have like jack daniels wine meat um water simple sugar-free red bull what kind of meat you're not specific with the meat

no like like meat plates like roast beef and shit like that just something so i don't eat garbage right stuff like that nothing nuts macadamia nuts and pist pistachios. Normal shit. Red M&Ms. Yeah, only green ones. Pick out the green ones. I mean, what you're saying about stand-up is the beauty of independence, though, right? Yeah. That's why everybody who gets Me Too runs to the stand-up stage afterwards, because the comedy club still accepts it. Sean, they were saying, did you see that tweet?

I thought maybe it was Roy Wood or something like that. He was like, OJ will be doing stand up In three months Dude do you watch those videos? No And why do you? Why do we entertain that shit? You love it Fascinating

You love it too Fascinating Until he's Hello Twitter world There's a lot of BS out there Up until now It pisses me off That he does videos on Twitter

Take that shit to Instagram He doesn't know He thinks Twitter is that. That's what he thinks. He's holding his reading glasses in his hand. I mean, he's going blind. He's 71 years old. Did you see the DM he sent that dude?

Amazing. With all the knives. All the knife emojis. But yo, you understand that was strategic, right? He sent that on Monday. Monday was the 25th anniversary of the fucking Bronco chase. So you think that he didn't just want to be in the news like that was

that was a strategic move I don't think he's that smart I think what's going on is he's reacting to someone fucking with him and he doesn't he doesn't know

how to just let shit slide so somebody makes a parody video or he's doing his Twitter you know it's hello Twitter world

and then someone's got hell police in the background that's what they did so he gets mad and he DM's that person who made that video I'm gonna cut you You know, it's hello, Twitter world. And then someone's got, hell, police in the background. That's what they did. So he gets mad, and he DMs that person who made that video, I'm going to cut you. I don't think. He said, I'm going to cut you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think that was strategic, man. I think he knew it was the 25th anniversary of the Bronco chase. And OJ's only relevance is the fact that he got away with murder. So he has to remind us of that fact all the time in order for us to give a fuck. Did you ever see the videos he did when he was doing rap? When he was dressing up like a king? In Miami? Yeah. He dressed up like a rapper? He was doing rap. He had music.

No. Jamie? We can't play it, right? We'll get pulled off of YouTube. Real quick, that stuff was fake. That DM stuff. What stuff? That DM stuff was fake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, the guy lied? I listened to Jim and Sam yesterday. They actually like broke it down instantly. He made it in a fake account with like, it was TheRealOJ.

He just made the L, a capital I. Oh. And that was just shit. It tricked everybody. I gave him donkey of the day for no fucking reason. God damn. Look at your mask. No, I'm mad.

I'm glad, though. I'm glad he's not that stupid. Right. Because donkey of the day is a segment I do on The Breakfast Club where I give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. I'm like, I'm glad he's not that stupid Right Donkey today is the segment I do on The Breakfast Club Where I give somebody The credit they deserve For being stupid

I'm like yo You can't be that stupid And that thirsty For attention OJ So it's kind of A relief that he's not That thirsty This is OJ

When he was doing rap music Alright well no But we can't Now he is thirsty Yeah we can't play the music But he had girls out there Dancing around in their underwear And OJ was rapping

Didn't he have like A crown on or something There he is dressed up in like white face and all sorts of things there's naked girls in it oh god you don't think oj been riding the wave of killing these two people for too long well crazy bitches will still fuck him bro guarantee you insane i don't understand this this this part of women at all like the women that like meet people in jail and then they'll like get married to them in jail like what is this about it's thinking about that jail dick when they come home some of those guys never get to give them that jail dick they're in jail forever and they get no conjugal visits and they still want to marry them but why they're attracted to killers so they want killers they want killers and specifically they want killers that kill women what yeah

that's a thing with some women, with really fucked up women. They're attracted to men who kill women. God, what happened to the girl that's wanting to get choked? Why you got to go to that extreme? What's wrong with you? She was just spanking. That's all? She was just spanking and choking.

Do you think all the choking and spanking and like, you know how like some girls have like rape fantasies and shit like that? Do you think that's all because menanking and like, you know how like some girls have like rape fantasies and shit like that? Do you think that's all because men have just become such pussies? They want to see if they have the ability to even do it? No, I think some girls have this primal need to know that you can kill them. But don't they know that? This thing turns them on. Not kill them, protect them, right?

Isn't it protect them? It's not kill them a killer yeah for sure but they want to know you could kill them not that you're going to kill them or kill someone else trying to get them that's that hand on your neck yeah choking you they want to be like close to the door of you doing something violent to them while you're fucking them so it feels good why you got control over their life you really have, you're holding their neck. You've got control over their life. Yo, so why do we- Look at your face.

Dude. But like, you know all these dudes that like jerk off with like a belt on their neck and shit like that and we call them weirdos? That's just women. Yeah, but that's different. That's autoerotic asphyxiation. Well, but it's choking a bitch. That's what choking is too though.

It is, but I think the choking is you're doing it, a man is doing it to you. It's not just that you're running out of oxygen because someone's squeezing the blood out of your brain right but it's also that someone's doing it to you while you're while they're fucking do you guys go for the whole choke because what i do is i like put my hand there and then i kind of just tense my forearm but i don't really squeeze the fingers because i want you know because my wife doesn't play like that she won't let me do that she wants the whole choke no she doesn't like that Oh she doesn't like that Cause she knows you could do it

Well it's not just that She sees you choke people out regularly She knows you're capable But the kind of girl That wants you to choke her like that I think you should leave that one alone Dude My wife likes a little choking

But I mean As we've gotten older All of that stuff Has kind of like subsided But she used to like a lot of choking We've been together 22 years though Yeah you want to play it I mean I don't know if she liked it or not.

She's naked. But I do it. It's not for us. It's for you. It's happening to you. Some girls love it, man. They do. Some girls love it.

But I think it's really because they see men as pathetic now. They see men as babies and the more pathetic and like cucked up a guy is, they're like, okay, choke me, slap me around. Show me that you have Some testosterone Show me you have Some sort of strength Yeah but that don't mean You gotta go give OJ

Some pussy though My god That's true That's nice You think they're asking OJ to choke him Richard Ramirez Used to have girls

Visiting him Manson that was married When he died Yeah but Manson had charm He must have had something No He must have had something All of those guys had fame

Fame has always been An attraction to people But he wasn't famous In the beginning When he was getting people to do all that wild shit. He was pimpin'. Manson, right? Well, he wasn't famous, but he was a cult leader. So he was the leader of a small group.

So he was infamous amongst that group of people. But you got to at least turn a couple people to turn it into a cult. Like eventually it becomes part of it. But when you look at social media, you realize that ain't really shit, right? It ain't really shit to have a following. You know what I'm saying? 500 followers on social media is pathetic. Right.

But 500 in real life. Yo. You're the man. You're Jim Jones. He's like, wow. Especially in 67. Yeah, man. You get 10 people to kill themselves in 67?

Oh, my God. Man, some people can't get 10 people to a comedy show. That's what I'm saying. That's a different kind of captive audience. Yeah. And no, you got to fax them. There's no organization. Everything has to happen in real life.

Yeah, what was that speech like? What was the speech when he made everybody drink the Kool-Aid? Bro, let me tell you something. He had to have some balls, right? I don't think they knew. That must have been. Did they know they were drinking that? It wasn't even Kool-Aid.

Kool-Aid took a bad rap It was some like Cheap Costco brand Which Kool-Aid existed Even back then? I think Kool-Aid existed So they went with the generic To kill him

He didn't even use Kool-Aid It's like they didn't have Enough money for all Kool-Aid They just gave people Hey Whatever the fuck they drink They serving it in the Dominican Republic

At resorts right now Alright Whatever That's a cocktail in sandals What the fuck is happening In the Dominicanican what happened all these people are dying well they should try to get at big poppy no no no no people are dying at resorts that that was an assassination attempt hold on people are dying at these resorts they're they're listening all these americans that are being poisoned one lady got beaten to death and raped she didn't get beaten to death

but like beaten half to that she survived but but her whole head was just a big swollen mass of blood and injuries. Some guy worked at this resort. She saw him wearing, at least he was wearing an outfit, clubbed her over the head, and did all kinds of crazy shit to her and left her for dead. I read a story today. It was a group of high school kids who went to the DR of celebrating graduation or whatever. All of them ended up in the hospital. And nobody knows why this shit is happening.

Nine people have died at these resorts and nobody knows why. And a lot of them are dying from pulmonary edema and heart failure. What is that? It's like some blood issue. And they're drinking things from the minibar and fucking croaking. What? You didn't hear about that shit? No.

Oh, yeah. They're going to build a wall around DR in a minibar. What? You didn't hear about that shit? No. Oh, yeah. They're going to do it on DR in a minute. What is the number of people that have died over there now? Wait a minute. It's like seven. Nine.

Nine? Nine. Jesus Christ. And it's happening in the resorts, the safe spots? Yeah, it's happening in the resorts. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

DR's awful. We got to go to DR. What? What? We got to hunt. That's hunting right there there Let's get into it This is a Let's get to the bottom of it

You really wanna do some Nature shit Joe? You wanna go do some nature shit? Let's go hunt some rapists In the DR I wonder what's happening I don't think it's just rape That is right

It's people dying from drinking They said they're drinking At these mini bars And drinking at these bars And like They've been testing the alcohol And it's like fake alcohol or some shit like that. I don't know what the fuck is going on.

I just know nine people have died. Yeah, I'm not going. Nah. Yeah, I'm not going. Yeah, you can't tell. That's all it takes. All it takes is nine people going. It'll fuck up your whole tourist economy.

You would think. Yeah. But we live in this era where people are like, oh, shit. Let's go over there and see if we can survive the DR. It's become like a fucking game almost Yeah Well Yeah

Well that's when Anybody dies of a cocaine overdose Everybody wants the shit That they died from Right Where you want the good shit Yeah you want the shit They died from

You ever do coke? No Never Never done it You ever do coke? I fake sniff coke once I smoked it in a blunt With some weed

Okay Back in the day But I fake sniffed it Like It was like the lines Were on the table And I just wanted to Make the people I was around Feel comfortable Almost like on some Training day shit I fake sniffed it like the lines were on the table and I just wanted to make the people

I was around feel comfortable almost like on some training day shit I didn't want them to think I was like an undercover cop or anything

so I motherfucking you just do like this and you knock it off and just make sure you get a little on your face and you just go woo

and everybody's high so it's not like they really fucking notice wait do black dudes say woo after doing coke too I don't know I did

I just thought that's what you did after you fucking sniffed the line cause you watch white people movies It's not like they really fucking know it's a black dude say woo after doing coke too. I don't know I did Every movie I saw they let out a goddamn Ric Flair. Whoa, I've had a tea that matta de coco tea What is that a tea made out of coca leaves? Yeah, it goes. Yeah, apparently the leaves if you just chew them are actually good for you. They are phytonutrients It's like cup. It's like a cup of coffee. Okay, but it's healthy chew them Are actually good for you They have phytonutrients It's like a cup of coffee But it's healthy It's actually good for you Those high altitude herders They put a big wad of that shit in their mouth

They chew on it And it releases into their bloodstream And it's actually healthy It's not bad for you It's when they process it and turn it into cocaine That it's bad What I've had is coca leaves in a tea form so you just take the the leaves and it's like in a tea bag and you drink the tea it just makes you kind of like hyper and you talk too much i'm not gonna lie when i smoked that

cocaine with that weed by accident that was the best high i've ever had in my motherfucker really yes i used to always say i would do it again by accident if it was an opportunity. By accident on purpose? But I think I'm too old for that shit now. But back then, my God, I remember that high like it was yesterday. Why? What did it feel like? Like he said, you just feel like very alive. Like you feel aware. Like everything just seems bright even when it's dark out.

And it's just like you feel like you're actually on top of something. It's just like you just feel mad hyper, but when you crash, you crash. Game over. When you crash, it's over. You guys ever try Molly? Yeah. Well, I've tried MDMA. MDMA, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, same shit. Only once, though. You like it or no? I loved the feeling when I was on it. I did not like it. The next day, I couldn't read. I was trying to read a magazine, and I couldn't read.

Really? I was like, I just can't. I couldn't follow it. Yeah. My brain was so dried out. Just shut down. I was trying to read a magazine, and I couldn't read. Really? I was like, I just can't. I couldn't follow it. My brain was so dried out. Just shut down. It was just dead. And then I went on stage that night and ate shit. Yeah, because the synapses aren't firing.

Nothing. I was slow and sloppy. My delivery was off. Fucked up, because when you said ate shit, I thought literally. I was like, oh, I can't wait to hear this stuff. I was like, you started reaching in your fucking pants and pulling out shit. I lost my mind Dude

So uh I've been going to Burning Man The last few years right Really And uh yeah Last three years I've been going Gotta get that hippie pussy Bro

Dude It's not even really like For me at least I haven't even really been Fucking there No No dude You're not showering

You're all fucking Hopped up on drugs And shit like that I think like the fuck Communities exist But I don't want to sell it It's weird to like sell it but it's a really cool experience you would probably really love it but um and i tried molly and it was you know people say like when you try drugs it gives you um this heightened version of reality that you can't come to naturally

right and then you have a new perspective because of it some people say that about like acid or mushrooms and these types of things um it was weird because for the first time in my life i felt past emotionally fill full it was like excess does that make sense you know when you kill on stage and you walk off and you just want to like help people yeah because you filled up the void and then you have a little extra right yeah so molly put me there and i was like oh this is how people who feel no void operate like i was just calling my parents i was calling my best friends and telling them i love them and i'm gonna take care of your kids if anything happens like what the fuck bro yeah maybe it just gave you the courage to do things you want to do but for whatever reason you choose not to

right because what you know before i'm busy trying to fill the void right be, be it through laughs or through content, whatever we're doing. And here I had the excess. And it was an interesting experience to make me go, okay, I can probably hit this maybe without the drug. I can do things in my life, exercise or— Gratitude. Gratitude, 100%. Yeah. That's the ultimate—

100%? Dr. Wayne W. Dyer said that you won't find your true purpose. Your true purpose in life is service to others, right? So I think most people that are public servants and give their lives to other people, I think that's the ultimate high. But it's so crazy. It's like you don't get to notice that until you're there. It's so easy to tell people, hey, you should be grateful, and then you'll feel better. But if they're not able to feel the sensation of gratitude, you're explaining to them, you're explaining Chinese to someone who doesn't even know what the fuck the language is.

Yeah. Right? It's like we're all in this like unique situation where we've probably experienced that and we probably, you know, tried to find ways to give back, et cetera. And then we felt really good because of it. We're like, I should keep doing this. This is a really good feeling. It's the ultimate high. But imagine someone who's like barely surviving.

Yeah, but they still have something to give they just don't realize it like you you might have ten dollars in your bank account but guess what it's a homeless person on the street that has zero right you give him a dollar you might feel great and then he takes that dollar and he's so appreciative like thank you thank you like that'll make you immediately feel better yeah really just helping people without any you know you have no ulterior motive it's a great feeling word it's addictive i thought about that with karma right like we always look at karma and we think that karma is what you put out is what you're supposed to get back no karma is just an action and you're supposed to do those things just because it's the right thing to do yeah period like i think also karma involves you feeling the way you feel about yourself yes because when

you do shitty things you feel you have a bad self-image you live in your karma that's what people don't get it's not like here's a dollar for a homeless guy five minutes later i should get ten dollars it's not an investment karma right it's no i feel better when i'm acting right like that's it it's simple as that you can't run from yourself you cannot you go to sleep every night you look in the mirror like and when you jack off you know what you're thinking about you jack like you know yeah you and i think a lot of people don't understand that concept like once you like i can't do people dirty because i know i did somebody dirty i can't do something because you carry that because i know i did something foul right you know and even when somebody does something foul to me i have i gotta go through

my files in my mind like did i do something fucked up to this person did i do something to cause them to react this way no i didn't that's their problem and that's the competitive advantage of sociopaths is they don't carry the negative karma sure right they have the interaction we the three of us would walk around afterwards like man i shouldn't have fucking done that what the fuck was wrong with me i feel like a piece of shit they just go yeah all right that happened i don't believe that no that's why they're effective in business that's why they're effective in politics that's why you see these personality types succeed with the ability to just destroy thousands of lives i get what you're saying but i think eventually it catches up to all of them i don't think it does emotionally just suppressing shit so much but eventually i think

that just i think that shit just explodes in them and causes them to go crazy if they don't fucking get killed. There are people, though, that don't experience any emotions the way we experience them. No empathy. Yeah. They're broken. There's something wrong with the synapses. I was like that for a long time. Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I started going to therapy is when I started piecing things together. But I made myself cold just because of how- To protect yourself yeah and how i felt like the world and the business was treating me at a certain point yeah i mean i was purposely making myself cold and i thought that was the way that i had to be you fucking around to read books like the 48 laws of power when you're young and you know you study all of these people who got to a certain point they all had like this had like this coldness about them,

like this ruthlessness, like I'll step on anybody to get the way I need to be. But then you realize these motherfuckers are miserable. That's the thing. You know what I'm saying? Dude, so you were on the island, right? Lanai. Yeah.

Right? And were you hanging out with any of the island folks at all? Yeah. So there's this comic named Lil Duval. I really think he's one of the people who understands life better than anybody on this planet. My guy. Good brother. Yeah, he's a good buddy of ours.

He's fucking brilliant. The same dude for the Smile Bitch song? There you go. Okay. Smile, bitch. Joe, when I'm telling you. Stylebender comes out to that song. Yo, shouts to Izzy, man.

We were on this podcast last time we were talking about how Izzy was going to do it, man. Yeah. But he's one of these guys, I promise you, his understanding of life is unparalleled. Unparalleled to anybody I've ever seen. And you see a song like Smile Bitch, and we see it maybe on surface value. But everything he does has a purpose. And he's aware of the purpose, right? He's aware of the energy he puts out in the ecosystem and how it affects the ecosystem.

And he was telling me how he likes to go to the islands. I him in bahamas and he likes to be in the moms and i was like why why do you like to be here he goes because people understand uh what life is here i go what are you talking about he goes they don't get caught up in the bullshit that we caught get caught up in the states right and like in the states everybody here thinks they're going to be a millionaire everybody does we have a lottery a reality show some viral video and you go to the island and they understand that they're going to live and die there

and then they start to realize hey I gotta just maximize happiness in life try to get some chicken tenders on the island when we're in Bahamas it takes 50 minutes

an hour for fucking five chicken tenders I'm like why the fuck is it taking so long and he looks at me and he goes why should they hurry

what's the purpose it's real Buddhist like it's a lot of it he doesn't know that but his philosophy is real Buddhist-like. A lot of it is, he doesn't know that, but his philosophy is real Buddhist. He don't even know. You call him right now and say,

who's Buddhist? He'd be like, I didn't go to school to know Buddha. Who is Buddhist? He doesn't know anything apart than Buddha. But he knows instinctively. He is, bro, no formal education. Comes from nothing.

And the way that he's found a way to understand humanity, it's his competitive advantage in the industry he's in. He just truly understands humanity. It's fascinating. We've complicated this shit. Dude, we have. Like capitalism has complicated things. You know, the cultures that we strive to be a part of have complicated things.

The truth to the matter is life is about treating people good, being a public servant, and dying. Yo, the crazy thing he goes he goes i love i love and this is what's hard to understand because i love hanging out with old people i'm like why he goes because they understand life i go what do you mean he goes you eventually get to a certain point where you realize you're gonna die and all these things that you want to accomplish that you thought you had to accomplish and all this shit that you thought you had to get done in order to value yourself is meaningless. It was just distraction until we get there. Yeah, that's the concept. It's hard to swallow, dude,

because you have to let go of ego, right? You have to go, okay, I'm okay as I am, and I'm okay having a good conversation with somebody or a good interaction today or just fucking sitting on the beach and looking at the stars, right? These are cool things. That's just as valuable as having a YouTube clip hit a million or something like that.

These things aren't any different in the grand scope of things, right? Yeah, I believe in the law of attraction, right? Your thoughts become things. So that's why it's hard for me to grasp the concept of, okay, one day you're going to die. Because in my mind, I want to die when I'm 90, 100 years old. But, you know, you read certain things and they're like, no, you have to embrace it. You have to tell yourself every day you're going gonna die because then you'll live your life like every day is your last yeah i that's a hard concept do you know ct fletcher i've heard that name

ct fletcher the power lifter yeah he had a heart transplant last year and uh he came on the podcast a year after his heart transplant and you've never seen a guy more loving and open and friendly and thankful and tells everybody loves him he's hugging everybody and just genuinely grateful because he was at death's door like legitimately at death's door his heart was failing him his father's heart had failed him his brothers his his like he's got congenital heart disease in his family and he knew that his heart was going he had had heart attacks he'd had surgery and they transplanted his fucking heart and they put a woman's heart inside of him too wow also fucked with him that's why he's loving wow no but i mean it's just like just that's one the one that fit yeah you know there was like this is matches you and we're

ready to do it bam so now here here he is a year later but but that guy has this renewed lease on life, and he just glows like a religious figure. Because he got close. That would be a great concept for a movie. Somebody who was a male chauvinist all his life and shitting on women and then had to get a woman's heart and this whole concept of life change. It's like a Jim Carrey movie or something. Starts putting nail polish on.

Jealous for no reason. Wow. Yeah. That would be interesting. Crazy. But it is interesting. It's like, that's why, now we're getting to the fucked up thing, right? Like this idea there is no good and bad.

Things just are, et cetera, right? But like. But there's good and bad in how the energy that you put out, how it affects people. If you do a bad thing and it hurts a bunch of people's lives. Yes. You're changing how those people are going to interact with all the people they experience as well. Yeah, you fucked up the ecosystem.

And there's a ripple effect with the ecosystem, right? But let's say you look at, like earlier we were talking about bears, right? Or maybe I was watching a clip of your show, but you were talking, I think it was you and Duncan, and you're like, bears really just attack baby animals. That's what they eat. They eat baby deer.

Yeah, they eat whatever they can, but they eat most of the baby deer that die get eaten. They just eat, they're like animal pedophiles, right? They're just killing fucking kids, right? That's what they do, right? That's what they fucking do. Coca-Cola's sponsor is an animal pedophile just eating baby seals, right?

So that in our culture would be a piece of shit. What if there was a group of people That just killed kids Right Right We would call them pieces of shit That would be a bad thing Right

Right But that's just You've acknowledged Within the you know The ecosystem of that Of those animals It's necessary Yeah

Right The bears need to How do we know though How do we know That it's not fucking Groups of animal rights activists Animals in the woods Saying these fucking bears

Need to stop killing these kids I saw a video We don't know We don't know what these animals Are really talking about And really discussing You know the shark fin soup We don't

Yo Charlotte You know shark fin soup No So they cut They just cut the fins off the shark And then they let the shark Sink to the bottom of the ocean And die

And die It just sinks to the bottom It can't swim It just sinks to the bottom And there's somebody tweeting about how horrible it is, but I bet there's a bunch of fish that are pulling up on that shark like, oh, look what we got here. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Oh, you going to be okay, bro? Yeah. You killed my whole family, you piece of shit. Right? You see, you've been deer hunting. Yeah. Deers don't just stand there when they see you.

No. They get the fuck on. Right. They go and hit them fucking humans with them guns again. Yeah like i think animals are way smarter than we give them credit for well they have instincts i think they got a little more than instincts some some do some animals are smart you know what's interesting moose are some of the dumbest the dumbest fuck but dude because you know why why so big because who's gonna take them out yeah they're so big all they have to do is stomp stomp. That's all they have to do.

Wolves try to come after them, and then they just game on. Stomp them. If I was a moose, I'd be dumb, too, though. Because I'd be looking at y'all like, y'all dumb. Y'all really out here with us? Yeah. And this motherfucker, he don't got the nerve to try me. That's the thing.

And then you go shooting at the moose, and you're like, fuck, he shot me. It's like the mountain from Game of Thrones. What's that guy's name? Yeah. Thorne Borg. Okay. I don't know his IQ, but I can't imagine it's that guy's name? Yeah, Thornborn. Okay, I don't know his IQ, but I can't imagine it's incredible.

You think? Yeah, maybe. 6'9", 300 pounds? You don't got to figure shit out. You might not have to, but some dudes choose to. There's giant dudes that are smart as fuck. Small cocks.

That's what people would like to think. That's what I have to think. You have to think. Yeah, you'd make yourself feel better, right? You'd be 6'9", and have a hammer? People always say that about Shaq. Someone's saying that about, oh, he's got a little dick. Compared to who?

Well, no, I read, I read, I read. Compared to who? Compared to a bear. He's so big. I read Corinne Steffen's book. Corinne Steffen said she had sexual relations with Shaq. Superhead. Superhead.

She said it's not little. It's just regular. So it's like, his dick probably look big on me. But on Shaq Right It's just like Nine inches Ain't really big

For you Shaq You know what I'm saying It's that Chris Rock joke About the background He's like I don't have a big dick But I got a small background Or something like that

So it looks big He's so skinny That his dick looks big Oh got you Got you Got you Yeah that's all Shaq needs to come through

With a Time Warner remote Shaq need 15 inches. Shaq need that gun on his dick. Yeah. That should be Shaq. That boring company. What is that called, Joe? The boring company.

The flamethrower. Not a flamethrower. That's what Shaq need. Anything else to disappoint a woman. I guess what I'm saying is like with C.T. Fletcher, right? He needed to see death in order to have this amazing revelation about life. And maybe the fucked up things that happen in the world, maybe if there is some sort of design to all this,

maybe the fucked up things that happen in the world allow us to have a little bit of empathy and joy for being able to be here. But you got to give a fuck about life, first of all, because I can think about all the near-death experiences I had, whether it was somebody pulling a gun on me, whether it was me being drunk as shit and wrecking my mom's white Lumina Caravan, and literally the only reason I survived is because I didn't have a seatbelt on and

because I was so drunk that the impact didn't kill me. I didn't think about stuff like that until decades later. When it happened in the moment, it was just like, all right, whatever, I got into a wreck. Oh, I got a gun pulled on me. But when you're older and I got three daughters and I look at my wife and I look at people that love and care about me and I really appreciate and value life now i start thinking back on that shit like what the fuck was i thinking like right i didn't give a shit about life back then but i can get an anxiety attack thinking about those past moments because those past moments would have caused so

much not to happen yeah if i'd have died yeah it's you gotta care you gotta care and you have to have something to care for and that's one of the things that really changes when you have children. Oh, absolutely. Chappelle said the best thing to me. He said, not only did it change how much I love, he goes, it changed my capacity for love. It teaches you how to love. You might not even know what real love is until you have children and you realize, like, man, this is like my heart walking around outside my body. And you feel a different level of love, a different level of empathy.

Like, I remember my daughter had a track meet like two, three years ago. And she was learning the long jump. And, you know, it was like the first time she ever did the long jump. So it was literally, it wasn't even a meet. It was like practice, right? And so she goes to do the jump. And I just, I go, oh, my God, that was horrible. And she just burst out into tears.

And I'm like, what the fuck did I just do? What did I say was horrible and she just burst out in the tears and I'm like what the fuck did I just do what did I say my wife was like yo what's your problem and then other parents are coming like oh it'll be fine you did perfectly I said shut the fuck up she didn't do good but I didn't understand that my word meant everything to her like everything so I just took all her confidence out of her And just that one snap of a finger Like Thanos And that shit Even thinking about that shit now

Hurts my heart But I've never made that mistake again Now I'm the father that That overly tells her how great she is And I know how to explain to her If she does something that I necessarily don't think is great I know how to explain it to her in a way

Where she can do better And she's very receptive to that it changes who you are how many kids? three all daughters too oh you was a hoe

in a past life like me see there you go Rogan I'm telling you this is parallel universe this meeting right now I swear to God Rogan was out there

knocking them down doing girls dirty I know a hoe I know a former hoe when I see one. I have a joke about how much it changed the way I feel about life. When my daughter was little, there was two bananas. And one of them was brown and fucked up and old. And one of them was perfect.

And I looked at those two bananas, and I know my daughter loves bananas. So she'd probably want that nice banana. So I ate ate that up banana so while sitting there eating this mushy mashed potato textured banana i was thinking about there's not another person in this world i would do that for because i love my wife my wife is an amazing person but it was just me and my wife i'd be like I guess that bitch is getting a shitty banana. You would ask her three times. You sure? You sure?

Hey, babe, you sure? You sure? You sure? Hey, everything's good? Everything's good? Everything's good? Everything's good? You sure?

It's pretty good banana? It's perfect banana? That's cool. That's fair. You just ask the wife three times. Kids, they get it from the start. You would literally jump in front of a bus for her. It's a different thing.

So, like, people say I would die for you But they don't mean it most of the time Unless they're a soldier Who's willing to dive on a fucking grenade But if I could die And I knew that my kids would be happy and healthy But if I lived they would die I would die

I flew out here I left New York 5.30 this morning Simply because I was supposed to fly out last night, but my daughter had a track dinner, which I forgot about. And it was literally like a track dinner. It's in a fucking gym, and they're serving chicken tenders

and lasagna and pizza and listening to Old Town Road 10 different times. Everybody gets a participation trophy. 12th place goes to 11th place. I'm like, oh, fucking God. But I stayed just to be there. I changed my flight, everything just to fly out this morning

because I needed to be there for that track day. You don't do that for people that you don't absolutely love and adore. So here's a question. You both have these kids and you need to balance loving them so much and telling them they're the most amazing people in the entire world and not making them horrible human beings.

Well, more than that, not making them weak. And not making them weak. You have to give them adversity or they'll never know what to do with it. I think sports is the key to that. Make them do things that are difficult. Well, I know what you're saying about participation trophies, but get them involved in something competitive Where they have to struggle So they'll learn

What it's like to lose They'll learn What life is like In a kind of Controlled environment And then you can still Nurture them And love them

Yeah the difference Between people Who participate in sports And people who don't Is you learn What losing is And some people That never learn

What losing is And they just Are terrified of it But they're not teaching These kids how to lose No more It's true In school schools

But I mean like competitive things. Like get your kids involved in martial arts. Get your kids involved in these things that are just, it's very clear. It's binary, one or zero. Either you win or you lose. Those are important. You learn. You learn like what struggle is.

If you have a race, right? Track meets a perfect example. Someone fucking won. Yeah. Someone did not win. That's it. You know, like who, oh, you got across the line and i'm second fuck i gotta be first how the fuck can i be first i gotta figure out how to run faster that's it will you guys ever will you guys ever be openly

disappointed in them will you show them that they let you down the only time i'm that way with my kids when they're mean to each other i tell them them, I go, this is unnecessary. I know why you're feeling this way. I know why you're mad at each other. But you can't be shitty to your sister. You can't do that. It's a bad thing. You've got to learn how to take a deep breath and think about the consequence of what you're saying. And every time you do do something shitty, learn from it.

It's a learning experience. I think for me, I'm just like that when I think that they're being ungrateful. My oldest daughter is 10. My second oldest is 3. So she they're being ungrateful. My oldest daughter is 10. My second oldest is 3. So she doesn't really understand the concept. My other daughter is 9 months old. But my 10-year-old has lived a very privileged life. And sometimes you see that bougie shit come out of her.

You know what I'm saying? Like little things. Like I love this island called Anguilla. You know what I mean? And we vacation like two, three times a year. Like these long 10-day vacations. She's like, Anguillailla. You know what I mean? And we vacation like two, three times a year. Like, these long 10-day vacations. She's like, Anguilla again. You know what I'm saying?

We was on the island of, we was in Grenada. And her and my niece, because my niece comes with me all the time. And they're just talking like, the food is so much better in Anguilla than here. I'm like, yo. You know what the fuck I was doing when I was nine? I was taking his own. I was lighting toys on fire in my backyard I was on a dirt road

exactly I was on a dirt road in Moscow in South Carolina turning into Teen Wolf in a single wide fucking trail like that is the only thing

that like pisses me off just the lack of gratitude it's a perspective issue though right they're wealthy they're never gonna understand

what it's like to be poor. So how do you instill that in them? It's impossible. There's got to be ways, man. The problem is, man, all of my favorite people have fucked up childhood. Yes. But I don't want my kids to have a fucked up childhood. They're not supposed to.

My mom told me, we're here to make our children's lives better. My mom actually showed me my great-great-grandfather's taxes he had to pay one year, and that shit was like a quarter. You know what I'm saying? Like it was just something light. But back then, that was a lot of money. So she was just saying that to me, just telling me that every generation is supposed to be better. Because I got this thing sometimes where I feel guilty about doing so well.

Because I don't have no fucking skill set. Like I didn't go to college. You know what I'm saying? I don't feel special. Like why am I in the position that I'm in my mother was a school teacher for 30 plus years most she ever made was 30 000 a year in south carolina i get that for a fucking appearance so it's like that shit will make you feel bad sometimes like you'll feel a sense of guilt so she was just showing me that to say hey every generation is supposed to be better than next

generation so our kids are supposed to be way better than us yeah but don't you want to prepare them for that life like you look at any one of these movies or even stories about a king that took power and then the son that he has son he has always some spoiled little bitch who ruins the kingdom well that's the thing find me a great man is the son of a great man find me a man who's the son find me a great man who's the son of a great man because a great man always has these weak little Who's the son of a great man Because a great man Always has these weak little sons And it's like How do you

It's like maybe You do need to create Adversity for your kid Maybe you do need to be a dick A little bit And maybe it's selfish To be sweet to your kid All the time

Because you're not preparing them For the world When you're not there I think you prepare them For the world When you let them find Their own way Yes

Meaning like You gotta cut the cord Yeah I don't want my I don't want my daughters To get in the media You know I think you prepare them for the world when you let them find their own way. Yes. Meaning like- You got to cut the cord. Yeah. I don't want my daughter to get in the media if they choose too cool. My daughter likes to write now, so if she wants to be an author, fine. I'm not really an author. I wrote a couple books.

You know what I'm saying? Right. With a ghostwriter. Right. You know what I mean? So it's like I'm not really an author. So I want them to find I want them to find

Their own way I think when they find Their own way Then that gives them That integrity And that purpose And everything else That they're looking for

I think when you Hand them things That's when the ego And all that other shit That's the problem They have to work for What I see in the communities That I live in

Is always like The rich kids That have nannies that take them everywhere. And they don't see their parents very much because their parents work all the time. And their parents vacation without the kids. They like to go places without the kids all the time. You see a lot of that. Those kids are getting fucked up. And you see them as they get older.

They're more and more vacant, more and more weird, more and more detached. Yes. But the kids that are around the family all the time and they do things with the family, then they get a richer experience. It's neglect, and it's the parents that are super driven and they're never home. They're working 16 hours a day,

and that's why they live in this fucking giant mansion and drive around in a Bentley. Those kids get fucked up, and they wind up getting on drugs and feeling empty and looking for something to fill them up. Imagine your parents sent you to boarding school. I have a buddy of mine. Dude.

A buddy of mine is Brian Callen. His parents sent him to a fucking boarding school in the United States, and they didn't even live in the United States. They sent him to another country. Jesus Christ. Wait a minute. Where's Brian from? I love Brian. Brian is from all over the world.

His dad was a banker, an international banker, air quotes. Mm-hmm. Oh. And traveled everywhere and was involved in some weird foreign shit. Weapon deals? We could talk later. But he was involved in some weird- UFOs and weapon deals.

Weird shit. Yeah, yeah. And then sent his kid, he was fucking 13 years old, sent him to the United States to go to boarding school. And Brian, to this day day is still a little shell shocked because of it yeah dude imagine your parents

send you away you feel like an orphan when you're 13 it's your fucking orphan and imagine if you was at that boarding school and got fucking molested or something crazy

you would really hate life you'd hate your parents wait Brian got molested no I'm just saying I'm sure he did I should say he did listen who's funny that hasn't been

yeah you gotta get that funny diddled in something fucked up happened really yeah if you're fucked up if you're funny something fucked up you think yes yeah yeah i mean some some pain some struggle it's a defense mechanism no it's you have to learn it you have to learn it why would you need funny it's like it's that's why it's so rare to see and people always say this about women, but like, even attractive dudes. Like, have you ever seen like a male model that was funny? Right.

That's what I say about girls. Carrot topping for the ladders. Unless you're fat, your stories suck. Real talk. It's true. Dude, unless you have to earn pussy. Like, lesbians are hilarious. No, that's not true.

Because they gotta earn pussy, right? They gotta fucking earn it. Have you ever talked to Tiffany Haddish? Yes. Tragic as fuck. Yes. Story. Yes.

Like, she's not fat. No. No, she's not fat. No. No, she's not fat. No, but she had that tragedy, bro. She has a tragedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The tragedy is the fattest. Oh, so y'all say being fat is a tragedy.

Yes. Oh, for sure. Shit, that's why Miss Pat is hilarious, because she's got both. Holy shit. That's why Miss Pat is about to be a superstar. She got the trifecta. You would never want your kid to become Miss Pat, but you love Miss Pat. You love Miss Pat.

You love Miss Pat. Only because when you go through that kind of trauma, when you come out on the other side, you're really unstoppable. You know what I'm saying? Especially when you deal with what's going on in here, which is the toughest part, right? I think that's what comedy does. Comedy is therapy for a lot of people. It's a coping mechanism. Any kind of art is therapy for a lot of people oh it's a coping mechanism any kind of art

100% is therapy for a lot of people it gives you an escape well that's why she was able to accept what that guy did to her and forgive him because she just

she's past it yeah she's on the other side yeah she's gotten through on the other side and it forces you to deal with the reality of the world

like I think comics better than most people deal with the reality of the world and often it's because we went through some kind of real shit. Right? So we go,

oh yeah, these things happen so I can let my mind even operate in it. When you exist in like a really privileged life emotionally and even mentally,

when you exist in that space, you don't want to imagine that there are people starving. You don't want to imagine there are people hungry or that their parents are abusing their kids. You don't even want to go there

because you don't have to. When you grew up in it You're like yeah That's what life is Where's the fun My dad can hit me for shit My mom So when you travel You can appreciate

Where you're going Whereas your daughter's like Again Here we go again I went to South Africa In December It was like the 100th year Of Mandela

It had been his 100th birthday Or something like that And so I took my daughter My my 10-year-old daughter. So like a few months later, she had a project in school where she had to do a project about Nelson Mandela in South Africa. And so she had printed this picture of the Nelson Mandela statue from Mandela Square and had it as the cover. And I'm like, where's the picture of you next to the statue?

And she's like, I don't want to use that. I'm like, what's the picture of you next to the statue? And she's like, I don't want to use that. I'm like, what the fuck do you mean? You don't want to use the picture of you standing next to the actual statue in Nelson Mandela Square. That's the point of these experiences because you're able to do things like that. I had to explain that to her. You had to teach her how to flex? I had to teach her how to flex. She don't know how to stunt, bro.

Yo, your daughter can't stunt, bro. Come on now. I had to teach her how to flex. She don't know how to stunt, bro. Yo, your daughter can't stunt, bro. Come on now. I had to teach her how to flex. Get them likes. But think about how normal that moment seemed to her. And she was like, I don't even need to use this as a cover for my book report. Oh, I think she's embarrassed. You don't think she didn't want the other kids to be like.

All those kids is rich. These kids should go to a private school in Jersey. All these kids are doing well. Well, not the kids, but the parents. All the parents are doing well Oh not the kids But the parents Yeah yeah yeah The parents All the parents are doing well Like Yeah

Hey like Yo would you guys You guys got You guys got some money And you got kids Would you guys pay To get your kid Into a good school

Oh like that lady did Nah No fucking chance Definitely not You gotta earn that shit Yeah You gotta earn that shit You can't do that

Cause they're not gonna enjoy it And they're not gonna They're not gonna work hard Yeah Some of those people Paid half a million dollars Right Half a million dollars

To get a bachelor To get a shitty Shitty kid Into some school That they didn't deserve Yeah and the kid's not gonna Have no passion For what they're doing

You know what I'm saying They're just there Like they gotta fuck It's just like having A regular piece of paper Like I want I want my kids to do things That they really want to do That's how you change the world You want I want my kids to do things That they really want to do

That's how you change the world You change the world When you're doing things That you truly want to do Yeah What's funny I thought Is that those kids That went to the school

Like did fine at them So school Yeah so school's just A big fucking hustle It's like if they didn't Earn it based on grades They should fail Right the fuck out of the school

It's becoming a hustle Just because of the way The world is working Yeah I mean Jamie went to school For audio's becoming a hustle just because of the way the world is working. I mean, Jamie went to school for audio engineering. Not a goddamn thing he learned in school he could use today. Really? Yeah, I mean, for the most part, I got to touch some stuff I could never have touched before.

What, pussy? Not in audio engineering. Not at that school. Some dick, maybe. Not at that school. At that time, it was like 2005, maybe. YouTube didn't't exist and there wasn't the plethora of knowledge out there that 12 year olds are teaching you how to record audio right whereas i had to learn from the guy that was recording eminem and jay-z and all these guys dr jay right like they

can't really do much with that job either besides teach it now either so that's why like to go back to joel's point when you said i'm the last in radio the reason I'm probably the last in radio is because I'm the guy that's staring people away from radio when kids come up to me

and they're like y'all wanna get in the radio I'm like for what you can start a fucking podcast you know what I'm saying it's all types of different ways to be heard you can go on YouTube

and if you wanna be a VJ on TV you can start doing your own video countdowns on YouTube like why do you need TV or radio to do any of that shit?

Middleman gone. Yeah. We didn't have none of that growing up. I had to be on the radio. You had to be on radio. You had to be on TV. We didn't have that shit growing up. You know, I'm even experiencing that with commentary for the UFC.

Because I love doing commentary for the UFC. But you know what I love even better? I do these fight companions. Yes, when you watch it. We get in here. We get hammered. We start smoking weed and talking shit. And we watch the fights on the screen we have the best time it's way more fun than being there live do you think that's the future of all live events right so you could

watch the nba finals and instead of listening to the guys you know marv albert or whoever do it you could choose your guys that you watch the commentary with Oh yeah So Fight Companion 4 Basketball Football Dana White was doing that With Snoop Dogg He had He had

The Tuesday Night Contender series And Snoop Dogg And Uriah Faber Were doing commentary And Snoop would just Have a constant Blunt lit And he was drinking

Tangaree And getting hammered Hot And talking crazy shit Hot And that was an option For the commentary It should be option You should listen to Snoop option for the commentary. It should be an option.

You should listen to SnoopCast. It should be, right? It should be every single one. I think Snoop got tired of doing it though and just stopped doing it. Probably got tired of being around Dana White.

I think he just got tired of having to be there every Tuesday. Well, that's the beautiful thing. The NBA did this during the finals this year. They tried an alternative stream using the ESPN app.

Right. So the thing about this is you're doing it with ESPN guys, right? Yeah, correct, correct. So it's like what would be great is do it with the funniest commentary guys that you like in your life. Right. Hear them. Just the reason why people tune in to your thing. I guarantee they probably mute the TV, right?

The people who are watching. They listen to both. I think that's what people probably do. They never let the good commentators commentate anything. That's what I'm saying. Like Charles Barkley, Kenny Smith, or Shaq should be actually commentating during the NBA fight. And it would be incredible. During the game.

It would be incredible. Them talking shit to each other. Matter of fact, put them on a little screen in the bottom so we can actually look at them visually what they're doing. I don't know. Well, they do that with the UFC. They have the best guys doing it. Like Daniel Cormier does it now. Yeah, he's great. Dominic Cruz, Paul Felder. I don't know. Well, they do that with the UFC. They have the best guys doing it, like Daniel Cormier does it now.

Yeah, he's great. Dominic Cruz, Paul Felder. They have good fighters. Michael Bisping, that do commentary now. Cormier's the best, though. Yeah, he's great. He's hilarious.

Didn't he use to fight? Fuck yeah, he's the heavyweight champion of the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He commentates too? He's the light heavyweight champion, and then he vacated his title, and now he's the heavyweight champion.

Yeah, he does commentary. We do it all the time together wow you guys are good together because you guys get fucking we're also good friends okay so we're always talking shit and we're laughing about things like whether it's a judge who's a nice lady but a terrible judge yeah but just like when when rose namajunas won the title he starts screaming out thug rose yeah yeah yeah it's not like you guys turn into fans Yeah well we are I mean neither one of us

Are real professionals Right But we do it for a living And it's weird That's my worst nightmare Like to be out somewhere And fucking get into An argument with an MMA fighter

You don't realize You're an MMA fighter Remember that Osh Remember that Chappelle show When he got folded up When keeping it real goes wrong When the guy folded him up And peed on him

And then went The fuck his girl That's why yo I'm telling you You gotta check for the ears I forgive you bro Check for them ears man What are the other signs

Other than ears Ears is a good one But the thing is You can wear ear guards I don't have any cauliflower ear I have a little bit on this ear But I wear ear guards It changes the way you hear things

You don't want that cauliflower ear It's calcification My ears stick out already too much Oh they would stick out Dude it would be nuts I'd look a bat yeah you'd have a big old knots in your yeah i can't so there's no other signs of what a guy could be an mma no not really what about hands what about knuckles no i mean you could tell and not tell you know it's no you don't know see that's why it's got to be nice to people yeah be nice are you going to find yourself in one of those you got it bro how about andyiz, the new heavyweight champion?

Viva la king. Viva la raza, way. Viva la raza, way. You look at his body, you would think no fucking way. And you look at Anthony Joshua sculpted out of marble. Ben thought he was trash, bro. Yeah. Ben saying it.

Ben saying it. We've been saying Anthony Joshua was not that guy. Never, never. He never had it. Never. He is literally Ivan Drago. Literally. He's the UK Ivan Drago. He looks the part.

Ladies love him. He never had that skill in the ring. I told him that when he came on Breakfast Club. I don't think that's true. He got dropped by Klitschko and he came back to knock him out. Klitschko was 73 years old. Klitschko was an old ass man, dude. And he's Ukrainian.

He's got Chernobyl in him and shit. He was 73. No, dude. That's nuclear poisoning and shit. was 73 years old. Klitschko was an old-ass man, dude. And he's Ukrainian. He's got Chernobyl in him and shit. He's Klitschko. He was 73. No, dude. That's nuclear poisoning and shit. He was very old. He was trying to win an election for this crazy country. He's got a lot of things going on in his life.

The real fight is Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury, too. That's the real fight. How about this? Tyson Fury, closest thing we've had in the heavyweight division to Ali. I'm not going to say Ali. I said after that. I said a couple of fights. I think he is.

The head movement, the foot movement, at his size and weight. Ali was doing that at 212 pounds. His head movement last fight was very Ali-like. Amazing. Unreal, but at his size. But Ali did that with George Foreman. You see, there's a difference.

The guy that he was fighting, like that guy was... But he did it with Deontay. And Deontay is... Yeah, he did it, but he also got dropped and almost murdered. He did. I thought he died. Every time I look at- Dude, that 12th round when Deontay connected and then walked back and went like this.

Like that, game over. And the fact that he just rose up and then outboxed him for the rest of the round. What the fuck? That's all those years of therapy. That's all those years of therapy and meditation. When Deontay hit him and knocked him out, he was in that place of stillness. Boom. He knows how to come up from that place of stillness. He knows how to come up

from that place of stillness. Absolutely. That's what that was. KOs are weird, man. It's like sometimes a punch does not look like much and it drops you and puts you away

and sometimes you get fucking flatlined like right there and it looks like you're over. Watch this. I mean, I was amazed that the ref even gave him a count. I thought it was going to calm out.

I thought the ref was going to wave their hands. Meanwhile, this motherfucker rises up and doesn't even look wobbly. Unbelievable. By the way, Anthony Joshua can't beat Tyson Fury. He can't beat Deontay Wilder. He can't beat Luis Ortiz. Well, I don't...

Luis is old, too. Luis is a good 90 years old. The word is, and I get this from reliable sources inside the fight community, that Anthony Joshua got dropped in training camp right before the fight. Bad. By a guy from Philly, right? I don't know who did it. But bad.

To the point where he was KO'd, essentially. And that's why his dad went after the promoter after the fight. You see his dad screaming at the promoter in the ring. Apparently, he was not prepared to fight. And he was looking bad in the locker room. They were worried about him. I was told he had a panic attack. Yes, that's what I heard, too.

I was told he had a panic attack before the fight. And if you remember, it took him a while to come to the ring. They even played the ring music and everything, but he never came out. And I was told that if you noticed when he was walking out, they was rubbing his back and they were rubbing his head. I heard he had a panic attack. Well, if you've been KO'd within a week, it takes months to get your shit back together again.

The whole world is shaky to you. Your equilibrium's off. So he was in there, and then when he dropped him, he's like, Jesus Christ, can I go again? Oh, when Joshua dropped Ruiz, he's like, good. Let's get this motherfucker out of here. And then he went right at him, and then boom, he got clipped, and then it was over

There's a There was a The biggest What is it The biggest upset In heavyweight history Is Tyson Versus Douglas

Right Guess who got dropped In training camp Tyson did Did he Yeah Oh yeah That's right

I forget the guy's name Who dropped him But his sparring partner Dropped him in training camp There's video of it There's video of it He didn't KO him He took a knee

No But still You got dropped You got dropped Your body shut down For a second And it there's video of it he didn't KO him he took a knee but still you got dropped your body shut down for a second and it takes time to recover from that shit and not to mention

the night before he was fucking a bunch of Japanese women with Bobby Brown in a hotel room and doing drugs by the fives yeah I'm saying

five at a time that'll take a toll out of you yes it does that'll take a toll if you read Bobby's book Bobby said Mike told him I'll be right back

Bobby was like don't you got a fight tonight he was like yeah yeah I'll be right back I'm gonna knock Mike told him, I'll be right back. Bobby was like, don't you got a fight tonight? He was like, yeah, yeah, I'll be right back. I'm going to knock this guy out and I'll be right back. And he still got up and he still dropped Buster Douglas. That's even crazier. Did you ever watch the 30 for 30? No.

About Buster Douglas? No. They had the 30 for 30. I didn't realize how much he dominated Mike Tyson during that fight. Oh, yeah. It was incredible. It was like round for round, he was punishing Mike Tyson. I don't remember that when I was young.

Buster Douglas is like one of the most talented guys that just didn't have the kind of drive and discipline that you needed to be a champion. But when his mom died. Mom or dad? His mom. It was mom, yeah. That's what gave him all the drive.

He was hooking off the jab on Tyson. Pop, whap. Like in a beautiful way. His skill was incredible. And that fight, he was hooking off the jab on Tyson. Pop, whap. Yeah. Like in a beautiful way. Yeah. His skill was incredible. And wasn't afraid. He was a world beater. Yeah.

He was a world beater in that fight. He needed the motivation. No. Holyfield fucked him up after that and he was basically done. No, he was done. Yeah. But he's infamous. Infamous.

For sure. He beat Mike Tyson. When it meant something to beat Mike. I found out about it after the fact. I didn't watch the fight live. I had a gig that night. Oh, and I saw it in real time. And then I watched it later, and I still was waiting for Tyson to get up and beat him.

I didn't believe it. You didn't believe it. I didn't believe it. I remember watching that fight, and in my mind, I guess I wasn't really paying it attention. I was just like, this is longer than most Tyson fights. Why is this going on so long? You can have a dinner reservation on a Tyson night. I'm like, and then when he finally got knocked out, I'm like, oh, shit, Mike long You can have a dinner reservation On a Tyson night Yeah I'm like And then when he finally got knocked out

I'm like oh shit Mike just lost Doesn't mean Cause you gotta think Not only did we grow up Watching Mike fuck people up We grew up trying to beat him On Mike Tyson punch

That shit That shit was impossible Yeah So it's just like That was an unbelievable moment I didn't feel like that With Ruiz and Joshua though Well there's certain times

When people lose You can't believe they lost Like for me it was Roy Jones When Tarver knocked him out dude I was just like what unfucking Roy Jones they he stopped to this day man unreal if you watch in the second round it's a really interesting thing that happens they both they both throw hooks and Tarver just gets there yeah and well Tarver's actually a southpaw right so? So I think it's his, it's kind of like a looping left. But they exchange, and Tarver just hits first. Roy timed it.

And this is what happens, I think, when fighters get a little bit older, they lose a fraction of a second. And that fraction of a second earlier in Roy's career, he's checking them, and then he's moving out of the way. Well, I think the real, there it is right there. Watch, watch, do you see it? Yeah. Look at them exchange.

Ready? It's, and. Yeah, boom. Do you see it? Look at them exchange. Ready? It's and boom. At one point, it changes everything. Everything. Well, you know what Tarver's coach said? That Tarver beat him in basketball. Yes. And then when he saw that he beat him in basketball, he was a better athlete.

Who was his coach? McGirt? I think it was Buddy McGirt. Yeah, yeah. I think. I find out that's true. Dude, we had Roy on the Flare-In, too, and. I think, I find out that's true. Dude, we had Roy on the Flayering 2 and I asked him,

I was like, were you ever worried about getting knocked out and losing something, leaving something in the ring? And he takes a second and he goes, I'm going to be honest

with you, man, I didn't come in the ring with much sense to begin with, so I wasn't really worried about losing it. Just straight up, dude. Straight up.

Roy still got a crazy competitive nature, too. Roy, was it last year? Last year, Roy was hitting me because he really wanted to fight Michael B. Jordan. How about Michael B. Jordan say that he thinks he can do it? What a nut, dude. What a nut. We were talking about it on the podcast.

Like, no. Get out of there. Roy was like, no, I really want to fight him. Roy was like, I got the sponsors that can put the money up. I think it was like $30 million. And I made the call for him.. Roy was like, I got the sponsors that can put the money up. I think it was like $30 million. And I made the call for him. And Michael was like, nah.

He was like, nah, we good on that. Like, yo, Roy would fuck Michael B. Jordan. Don't let Creed fool you. Don't let fucking Killmonger and Black Panther fool you. You still run up

on one of them old boxes right now. Muscle memory will get you knocked the fuck out. It wouldn't even be close. It would be horrific. And isn't that what happens? It's like some guys start, they start fighting or they start doing MMA. They start doing a little Brazilian jiu-jitsu or some shit like that, right?

Yeah. And they put a couple chokes in in like a safe, controlled environment. And you get that like delusional confidence. And that's why sparring is so important. Do you remember the first time you guys sparred? Sure. I mean, not the first time. I can remember the last time.

Well, you were doing it since you were a kid, right? Yeah. Okay. I mean, the first time I sparred, before I went in the ring, I was like, oh, I got this. It's just combos, whatever. I was fucking frightened. Dude, frightened. When the punches were coming back, I was just a shell.

I just stopped. Yeah, I haven't sparred since the last time I sparred. I sparred with Sean Porter. Really? Yeah, dude. This was nuts. And he was actually throwing punches. Yeah, because I was mad.

But this shit don't mean nothing. He was dodging them. I was thinking one of them. I'm surprised he didn't knock your ass out, bro. And this is one of the... This guy's head movement is impeccable. I mean, people have tried to attack him on the street and they miss every single time. Joe. Joe. Joe, it's un-fucking-real, dude.

What is this? What do you got here? Here it is. Is this you guys' fart? Oh yeah that is a sparring Look at him going forward This is a PR move That's not a PR move I'm trying to get some I know you are I'm trying to get some sweating

I'm trying to get some sweating Look at you Nah you know why? Cause that shit is in Brooklyn And you gotta be focused Cause there's people yelling in there Yo Charlamagne got on makeup And they in there yelling Can I Charlamagne got on makeup.

And they in there yelling, can I get a drop from the audience? You left-handed? Nah, I'm right-handed. I was just trying to throw him off a little bit. Really?

Yeah. You did it on purpose? Man, he don't know what he's doing. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I'm all sluggish. I'm not even bouncing.

Where is mine? No feet movement. Do you train in boxing or were you just doing this for a goof? Nah, I just wanted to go in there and I was like, fuck it, that's Sean Porter. I'm a even bouncing Where is my arm No feet movement Do you train in boxing Or were you just doing this For a goof Nah I just wanted to go in And I was like fuck it It's Sean Porter

I'm a boxing fan I'm like what's the worst Can happen You get knocked the fuck out Yeah the worst can happen Is he's mean Yeah you're right That could be terrible

He's being super nice to you I'm just in there flat footed Yeah we're not even really And we went three rounds Wow And I was about to die At the end of those three rounds Did he touch you at all

That's a very bold thing Yes A few times That's why I haven't sparred since Wow And I was about to die At the end of those three rounds Did he touch you at all? Bold thing Yes A few times That's why I haven't sparred since Yeah It's like staying in my fucking lane You know what I mean I hit the punching bag

Callan spars all the time Does he? Bro what are you doing? Yeah Brian Callan No no no Brian Callan DJ Callan No There's one person

That's not doing any cardio It's DJ Callan Do you see the meme Of after Ruiz won Callan getting out of a car With his gut hanging out It's DJ Khaled. Did you see the meme of after Ruiz won, Khaled getting out of a car with his gut hanging out and it's like all the big guys the day after Andy Ruiz

wins the title. Khaled, Khaled, Khaled been working out on Snapchat for a whole year and didn't lose a motherfucking pound. And got a Weight Watchers deal.

God bless America. Did he really? Yes. Weight Watchers deal. I mean, we are just watching his weight. There's plus size models, right?

They're doing that now. Like Nike in their Nike store has like a big mannequin, like a fat mannequin. But they don't have plus size models for men. Joe, there is nothing that enrages me more than fat models. There is nothing that enrages me more than fat fucking models. Why? Okay, let me just say something. As a comic, we want attention.

We don't feel like we deserve it so we make you laugh so there's an even exchange i get my attention you get some joy okay an actor they want attention they're not willing to write the script but they'll memorize some lines so do a little bit of effort to get the attention a regular model at least she's willing to lose weight so that she can be looked at but these fat bitches are just like look at me you deserve to be looked at stop using the word bitches in 2019 look at that what the fuck that's that's uh that's the plus size model mannequin this is the only that doesn't enrage you guys the only thing i don't like about that doesn't enrage you that they're like just stare at me

i'm gonna eat bread all day no but you should stare at me. I'm going to eat bread all day. No. But you should stare at me. The only thing that bothers me about that is that's out of context. Because that's an oversized mannequin in workout clothes. Right. Is she going to lose the weight? She's trying to lose weight. You know what I'm saying? She's trying to better herself.

Okay. So I need it in some context. If this is workout gear for overweight women who want to go lose weight, cool. Right. Other than that, why are you wearing workout gear? Because she's trying to lose weight. That's the only reason you'd be wearing that. She'd be even bigger if she didn't work out.

Like Khaled. Imagine if Khaled didn't. DJ Khaled needs to eat a salad. Is that what they're saying? You've got to have a DJ Khaled level of annoyance to succeed in life, though. Do you? Yes, you do. Oh, my God. You do. Do you? Yes, you do.

Oh, my God. You do. You do. It's so much. It's so much. Button your fucking shirt. There's no way you didn't know you could button your shirt. He's the epitome of not being afraid to ask for things. He looks like French toast.

Jesus Christ. Every time I look at him It's French toast And he has no He's Look at this Oh Cali Where's the butter And the maple syrup

Says he lost 15 kilograms What is that 34 pounds Yeah Yeah There you go Lost 34 pounds Listen congratulations You can see his dick now

Congratulations to him He looks a little slimmer on the right He does look a little slimmer Oh okay Maybe it's a little better My only Whoa Jesus Christ Is that real I don't even know what that is Weight watchers I respect He looks a little slimmer on the right. He does look a little slimmer. Oh, okay. Maybe it's a little better. My only... Whoa.

Jesus Christ. Is that real? I don't even know what that is. Weight Watchers. I respect... Khaled came from radio. Oh, did he? Khaled came from radio.

Khaled used to do 12 midnight to 2 a.m. on weekends at WEDR in Miami, if I'm not mistaken. He used to do Friday and Saturday night. And that was like 15 years ago. So radio is a lot like comedy in a way, right? And there's like sort of a fellowship of radio people. You respect people who did it. Yeah, it's so few and far between that actually, I guess, make it, so to speak, that you know who those players are. You know what I'm saying?

So yeah, in a way. Yeah, and there's so few like national ones like who's like nationally known radio guys elvis duran there's maybe a dozen um you elvis bobby tom joiner tom's retiring this year what about steve is steve national steve's national see obviously those and i respect steve and i respect Seacrest But I don't really count those guys Because they didn't start in radio In radio They didn't grassroots

Ryan Seacrest didn't start in radio Wasn't he always a radio guy I don't think so I have no clue He was a radio guy I did his radio show in the 90s Okay so he might have been I didn't even know he did radio

He might have been No no he does He still does radio He does radio That guy has like five jobs right now The guy from American Idol Ryan Seacrest Does radio every day.

Does it in the morning. And he does that secretary radio. What is that? Like, hey, Dolores, you're the one who won. Come on in and get your thing. Like that kind of shit. By the way, Ryan is never off. No.

We work for the same company. We work for iHeart. I've seen Ryan walk out the bathroom. Like he's walking on stage to introduce the next guest on American Idol. Like he's walking on stage to introduce the next guest on American Idol like he's always on yo that was a perfect example where like your gay rumors trumped your me too rumors what happened remember when he caught the me too and then like a girl said that he me too or whatever and then girly worked with something like that and then everybody was like the gay guy okay sure he's he's

not okay what is, what is he? I think it's about. No, no. What is he? What do you call it? I don't know. I think it's about Ryan. Ryan is one of those people.

He's too handsome. He is a handsome. Those fucking teeth. But you don't think about sex with him. So what is he? What is the letter? It's what? Asexual?

Osexual? O. It's an O. It's an O. It's a letter. He's O positive. He's O positive. L-P-G-T-A-O plus

He's O He's like Oh you don't fuck dudes Or chicks Okay I see what it is He's always on I've

Can you imagine him Choking a girl No No Absolutely not I can imagine him While she's beating him to death The last

By the way Ground and pound And then into oblivion Ryan is one of those people That when you hear something about him You'd be like Nah not Ryan You know what I'm saying

Like he has that kind of personality Which actually works in a lot of people's favor Yeah well it's great for top 40 radio Yeah It's great for secretaries that call in Yes You're the seventh caller Congratulations

What'd you think about the finals of Game of Thrones Did it disappoint ya? What'd you think about the finals of Game of Thrones? Did it disappoint you? It's that kind of weird, homogenized shit That some people thrive in that frequency He is so good at being authentic in the most inauthentic situations Explain Like hosting a show is why like

american got talent all that kind of stuff when you gotta be like really excited about somebody like juggling dildos or some shit that's really inauthentic but he kind of comes across as believable like sincere yeah or does it matter meaning like does his reactions in those moments matter i just somebody wins I don't know And he's like Hey Does anybody care No one cares

Nobody cares It's those teeth man That's a pretty man Listen he's America's host He is Yeah He's America's host man He could host some dick

In that That's for sure But in that world Hey dick put him on Say what Dick put him on Dick who Clark

It's true It's a fact Doesn't he do the New Year's countdown now too He does God he's doing a lot of jobs Man listen Dick who? Clark. It's true. It's a fact. Doesn't he do the New Year's countdown now, too? He does. God, he took out a lot of jobs. Man, listen, they was propping Dick's corpse up for like 10 years before they finally said, Ryan, just do it yourself.

Right, when he had a stroke and he would still do it? No, I think Dick been dead, bro. Wait, he had a stroke? He had a stroke. And he was doing it out the side of his mouth, like two-faced? Well, he was struggling. He was definitely struggling to talk. That shit was so sad. They kept him doing it out the side of his mouth Like two-faced Well he was struggling He was definitely struggling to talk That shit was so Sad

Yeah And it went from He would do it But then it was just like They would pop in on him In like some studio And he'd be like Sitting there struggling

And talking like Why do they keep Will and Dick Clark out For New Year's Eve Like you're actually Depressing people Before the ball drops Yeah

And then they had Kathy Griffin And Anderson Cooper doing the floor. That was a great combination. She annoys me, man. No, man. Kathy is the shit.

It's a fucking lot. Shut up. I love Kathy Griffin. No, dude. She enrages me. Just like the fat models. You know why I like Kathy is Kathy don't give a shit.

I like Kathy for the same reason I used to like Joan Rivers. I mean, I say used to because she's dead. I love Joan, though. Joan's a legend. But they both didn't give a shit. They were cut from the

same cloth. I don't know if they're cut from the same cloth. I think so, man. I think so. I used to love Anderson and Kathy Griffin together. You've never heard anybody say that? Not anybody like you. It's always like someone's mom. That's your guilty pleasure is Anderson Cooper

and Kathy. Look at that chemistry. We had Cathy on Breakfast Club. After she cut Trump's head off? After she cut Trump's fucking head off. That was a strange thing. That was strange thing. What was strange about it is the fact that she didn't think she was going to suffer any consequences from that. I think people forget that Donald Trump, even though he is the ex-executive producer of Celebrity Apprentice and he was a reality star, he's the president of the United States of America.

It's rules about threatening heads of state. Yeah. You just can't do things like that. It's almost like if fucking Flavor Flav became president. It would be hard for you to look at him as anything other than Flavor Flav. But you better respect his position before those goddamn men in suits come knock on your fucking door. If Flavor becomes president. Well, Donald's the first guy who was famous, like, other than Ronald Reagan, I guess.

Ronald Reagan was famous as an actor, apparently. Was he famous? Famous? I don't know. I don't think he was famous famous. He was in movies. I didn't even know he was an actor. I had no clue.

He was in big movies. I knew he was an actor. And then he became the governor of California. You know? It's a weird one, right? I mean, just having a famous person in a popularity contest is strange. Yes. Because you've got a built-in advantage. Yes.

That's how all of them are going to be. And it is a popularity contest. You do realize that's how all of them are going to be moving forward. Well, some people might say Obama was the first celebrity president. He became a celebrity, though. Ah, you don't think he was one before going into it? No, absolutely not. I think there was something else.

Not Trump. Nah. Not Trump is on a different level. Yeah. Trump had Domino's commercials, bro. Yes. Trump had rap songs named after him. He had an airline.

He worked. Yeah, he had an airline. He had a fucking hotel. His name is on buildings all across the world. Giant, giant Trump letters. He was a brand. Trump was the first brand to run for president. Reagan might have been the first star.

Trump was the first brand. But he was definitely a bigger star than Reagan, I think. Easily. Reagan is before our time. It's hard to understand what he was like when he was a movie star. Let's call Betty White now. Is Betty still alive? She's still alive.

She's still kicking. Live and kicking. Do you have these people's numbers, Joe? No, I don't have her number. Okay. I haven't seen Betty in a while. It's not like you become famous, you get on Rolodex. Here's a list of all these famous people.

Here's Keanu Reeves. Here's Betty White. I do have some famous people where I text them and I call them. I'm just like, this is so strange. Who's the weirdest? I always feel like that. Steven Tyler's a weird one from aerosmith yeah yeah yeah text each other and like all right that's the most surreal feeling ever it's wild it's weird

i never get used to that no it's humbling though yeah and but that's why i always say i don't i i don't do like i know way i don't talk right i said i know people that have real talent right people that i actually looked up to growing up that inspired me. But I think that's what people like about you is that you recognize that in yourself. Yeah. You know? You're not oblivious to that. You're not delusional.

I mean, I kind of wanted the room to be like, well, no, you are talented. I'm just like, fuck me. You have something. You must have something. Yo, you know what? You are fucking normal. Now that I think about it You're a regular guy

I'll just double down on you Yeah, you know It's good that you recognize Charlamagne the dude You are fucking Let's change your name up a little bit But humanity like that In that regard

That's important for people listening They want to know that you know You can't play a musical instrument Sing or do something crazy Well, don't they want to know that you know you can't play a musical instrument sing or do something crazy well don't they want to feel like reflected like often

at times I think that your audience resonates to you like that it's like you're asking a lot of times the questions that they would love to ask these people yeah when I listen to you

I hear somebody who's still a fan and that's how I feel like I'm still a fan I'm curious I have a curiosity about things and I'm not afraid I don't know. I'm curious. I have a curiosity about things.

And I'm not afraid to, I don't know shit. I don't have, I just got some experiences. I'm not an expert at nothing. Everybody that I sit across from is way smarter than me. Yeah. And I'm fine with that. Let's have a conversation. I want to learn.

That's good. That's it. That's probably why you're successful. It's the way to think about it. People would be like, oh, I can't believe you would say you would ask elizabeth warren about her native american ancestors did you see that well you called the original rachel dolezal bro and rachel's by now too but did you see the interview with him and and uh elizabeth warren yes where he calls her out on the native american shit but you know here's the weird thing about her it's like i don't necessarily think she told the truth in that interview and i don't know how she'd get away with it when she said that the boston globe did an investigation they said that

she didn't she didn't in any way profit off of that or have an advantage she got hired she got hired for from harvard and she wrote native american on her resume like they hired her based on her ethnicity yeah yeah she's a liar yeah that's a lie yeah which is fine listen i don't have no problem with my politicians lying they do it all the time but i want you to acknowledge your lie and hold yourself accountable like none of this shit is disqualified it's not the 80s anymore it's not the 90s where shit like that ruins you just be honest like look i'm american i've cheated before i've taken shortcuts i fucking used to put the cheat code in mike tyson all the time just to get mike tyson and skip everybody else that's what we're based on yeah so if she did

that at some point in her life was it a horrible thing to do absolutely does it make it a terrible make her a terrible person forever no i buy what she was saying though that she was told that she was native american because many people were and then they find out when they get a dna test that it's not didn't that happen to you didn't happen? Well, it hasn't been disproven yet, but yeah. What are you, Native American? Yeah, I was like growing up around the time I was going to college. A guy that worked with my dad found out that he like filed the paperwork to his college 10 years after the fact and got a bunch of money back. And so my dad's like, well, we're Native American.

That's what we've been told our whole time. So we're trying to prove it. Right. Birth certificates and whatnot. And it's really hard to because they time. So we're trying to prove it. Right. With birth certificates and whatnot. And it's really hard to because they didn't keep a lot of information back then. Right. So I put it on an application, got into Ohio State that way. Got them.

And it was real weird when I was in the minority meeting. On the orientation day, they gave me a letter to say, show up at this separate meeting. You pulled a goddamn Elizabeth Warren. You got you pulled an Elizabeth Warren. That's exactly what I might have. say show up at this uh like you pulled god damn elizabeth you got you pulled a you took a position from a hard-working cherokee kid he did it in good faith i had no idea and it was the first time just like when i sent him application and it was like what's your race i was like i just found out i'm native american i guess so i'm gonna put that and no one checked no one asked that's hilarious that people don't just Yeah I didn't know I was doing anything wrong

The wild thing about that Is like That conversation It's like people ask me Why I said that I'm like I'm just too dumb To know that That wasn't a question

I wasn't supposed to ask You were supposed to ask that I thought so too I thought I was just Having a conversation The idea that you're not Is ridiculous That's a huge thing

We need to find out How she reacts To the fact that She told a lie And why Is her family Did that fuck up the whole lineage? Right. Did the whole family start tearing shit down off the wall?

Like, oh my God, we're not Native Americans. Dude, how many dream catchers were in the garbage that weekend? That's what I'm saying. Holy shit. Just feathers sticking out of hefty bags. That's what I'm saying. Once she learns that, then the whole family has to realize, damn, we're not Native American. They had to fuck up Some family reunions right

They had to Fuck up some tradition They had to Oh my lord There's a lot of people That were shaking their head After that one Joe

She actually got the DNA test Okay Can we talk about How fucked up Ticketmaster is Real quick Yeah you wanted to talk about I really wanted to talk I just figured

I just put my mind Together on this thing Yeah it was a text he sent me Oh my god Ticketmaster Fat models Ticketmaster We're gonna take them all down Okay so Ticketmaster You know the place Where you buy tickets I had no clue mind together on this thing yeah it was a taxi sent me oh my god ticket fat models ticket master we're gonna take them all down okay so ticket master you know the place where you buy tickets

i had no clue about this ticket master thing i'm just starting to do some theaters and shit on the tour so i'm starting to look at like what they charge to do like the processing and servicing right you buy it's like a 30 or 40 ticket i looked at yours 4040 tickets $16 in servicing for a service charge yeah is it per ticket per fucking ticket they got it they got a 40 percent don't they got to pay for shit in the venue like no they don't that's the venue cost that you also got to pay yeah it's just to process the ticket and if you want to pick it up a will call another three dollars it's unfathomable right so i'm starting to think i'm going okay so for the first time in my life i I'm like, okay, I'm selling some tickets and everything's good. And I'm just getting a piece of the door, so I'm happy, right?

And my boy, who's like this genius fucking kid, OJ, Nigerian, all these Nigerians are geniuses. And he comes up to me, he's like, okay, but what about the processing fee for Ticketmaster? How much are you getting off of that? I go, what? He's like, what percent are you getting off of that? I go, nothing. He goes, wait, but you're bringing all the ticket sales. Why aren't you getting a piece that's 40% of your ticket price? And I'm like, well, I don't know. And he goes, and what about the data from the tickets being sold? Are you getting that? I go, no. He goes, hold on. So they're fucking you and getting paid to fuck you? I go, what do you mean? He goes, the game is data now. Any business that's successful right now is all about data acquisition, right? Any business.

right now is all about data acquisition right any business and data is not how many followers we have on instagram because they could take your account away in a second how many subs that you get on youtube because they could throttle your search we could see that happen all the time it's direct connect to fan right and what ticketmaster has done is they're your ticketing site they get your email they get your data set they get all your fans they know exactly who your fans are and they email them and tell them when you're coming into town. Or when somebody else. Somebody that they might like that's like you. Exactly. And then they're getting paid an absorbent amount of money.

They're fucking over the fans on it. So I'm like, I'm talking to him and he's like, yo, we got to just create another one of these. We got to create another system that gives all that data to the comic. Why is the middleman even there? We could create a way cheaper ticketing service that gives every one of those emails to a comic. And it's like comics used to do back in the days by putting the comment cards on the tables and you collect them afterwards. You can have an email list for every time you go to Idaho, an email list for every time you go to New Jersey, an email list for all these different places. That's what most authors do.

And Kevin Hart, that's how Kevin Hart came up. Kevin Hart was going into all of these comedy clubs and he was getting everybody's motherfucking email. People wonder why whenever Kevin would launch on these social media sites, he'd get all of these comedy clubs and he was getting everybody's motherfucking email people wonder why whenever kevin would launch on these social media sites he'd get all of these crazy followers immediately it's because of that road work he put in in those comedy clubs before anybody i think louis ck did that as well and louis had this massive email and now you have direct connection with your fans and that's what your fans want your fans don't want ticket master telling them that led zeppelin's coming through they want to know when rogan's coming through but you know pearl jam tried to fight them back in the day what they have they have exclusive deals with certain venues

they are top to bottom yeah they own so they own live nation and live nation owns the venue so they're completely vertically integrated so if you want to play at the garden or wherever the fuck it is right yeah so you go we're going to process your tickets the only way you do is uh perform here is you do is uh perform here is you do it with our promotion company which is a live edition and um you're gonna have to use our ticket processing fee and and our venue they actually own the venues now but here's the thing there's a handful of you guys that get to play those venues now i think with podcasts now shows are 300 people there's going to be thousands of comics that have 300 fans.

And the venue where we perform is not imperative that it's this specific one. It could be a comedy club. It could be a hall. It could be some conference center. It could be anything. It could be Airbnb. But aren't you only doing Ticketmaster when you're doing these big-ass venues? Well, sometimes now that they're Live Nation, they own some certain clubs.

Well, I do. I work with Live Nation. So now Live Nation, all your shit is that. You still do stand-up? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Why not just do the podcast live every fucking way?

Different, man. It's not the same. Yeah, I like podcasts like this, where it's just people talking. You do it differently when you're playing for an audience. You perform for them, and it becomes this weird thing. Yeah, start dancing and shit. It just is not It's not the same

It's not a real conversation Like I think the intimacy of podcasts One of the things that people like about it Is they listen in their ear Right They got an ear plug It's like you're talking to them Yeah

Like you're right there When you're doing it live It becomes a different thing There's a reaction Not that it's a bad thing Yeah But it's a different thing But stand up is way better

Why It's just way more fun All I'm saying is What are we doing with this Right It's like You should have a direct connect To all your fans

I should have a direct connect To all my fans Right We should be able Even the venue Should have that as well Why do we Why are we giving away

All the data To a company That's really not I know my agent's Going to call me right after this And he's going to be like Why the fuck We have deals

With ticket messengers Shut the fuck up So you want their emails You want your audience's emails to be like, why the fuck? We have deals with ticket messers. What are you doing, dickhead? Shut the fuck up. So you want their emails. You want your audience's emails, basically. And that's what the audience wants. And I don't want my audience to get charged $16 every time they buy a ticket. Where does that money go? It costs $16 for you to process a ticket.

Why not just give out- 40% of the ticket price. Why not just create an email, and when you're at these venues, just put it up on the Jumbo trying to be like, yo, email me after the show. I mean, that's one more step. Or we could just create the ticket process and the charges and weigh less and already start aggregating the emails. And then if you want to get real crazy with it, you have a boy of yours that, like, let's say my buddy Akash, right, I do a podcast with. It's like, hey, Akash, you're about to go on tour?

Yo, why don't you just use my data set, man? They're going to know you from doing a podcast with me. Maybe they'll want to see you. It's like we get to empower each other through that shit. Am I making sense? No, it makes sense. The thing is specifically about data, about the email list, and about they get that if you show up in these different places.

They get the email address because that's how people get their tickets. But you get the option of saying because they'll ask you they'll say can ticket master reply to you or can ticket master send you the latest updates and news and events you can click no yeah like i and i click no all the time sure that's ticket master but you would click yes if it was us and it was somebody who you were invested in going to see you just don't want ticket master promoting random Depends what you're sending me. But even if you click no, Ticketmaster still gets your email address and might sell it. Absolutely.

Yeah. Even if you just click no, like do you want updates from Ticketmaster? You're not saying, is it okay if this company just starts selling my email address? Because that's what they do. That's what they do. Yeah.

Bro, they own us anyway. But they don't have to. I'm saying now, everybody that's coming out to your shows is coming out from this podcast they're not coming out because of ticket master and if you use a different email service or ticketing service they would come out with that one there was a sam harris podcast where he talked about this where they had on this expert and they were discussing how data is it's like a commodity that no one knew was a commodity and we signed off on it before we realized it and these people that don't provide any service are getting that data and it's worth billions and

billions of dollars which is essentially what facebook is it's facebook but it's also shaping the way we communicate with each other because the things that attract people are conflict right so the things that get you to engage are conflict so that's the stuff that shows up in your email feed yeah they've or your facebook feed they find out what's going to are conflicts. So that's the stuff that shows up in your email feed or your Facebook feed. They find out what's going to annoy you. Yep. And that's the shit that they show you. That's why OJ has 800,000 followers in two fucking days.

Boom. Overnight. Instantly. Instantly. On Twitter, which nobody grows on Twitter anymore. Yo, but at least Twitter. Twitter's dying. At least Twitter, at least Facebook, they're not charging.

Right. My issue with, if Tech Master was like, hey, here's a free service. We just want to get your data. I'd be like Alright boom Cool But Facebook is charging You're going to charge me

You're going to fuck me in my ass And make me pay you I think Facebook is charging They're just not charging For ads Yeah Yeah And also

Like think about it They've stolen a lot of data From people Yes In a lot of ways So that is a charge Because you signed up for something But you didn't know

You were signing up for that I didn't know I was giving you All of this Right What's weird to me man Is fucking When you're talking about something but you didn't know you were signing up for that I didn't know I was giving you all it is right what's weird to me man is fucking when you're talking about something and then those ads show up in your Google feed bro we were just talking about coolers bro and I looked at my Google News feed and there's ads for coolers Mike how does my phone know

I was talking about cool that's why I said they own us you know what else is crazy they when you get in your car and you look down at your phone and it says 32 minutes to wherever the fuck you're going like that shit happens to me all the time it knows where you're gonna go without you look at your phone it'll be like 32 minutes to to whatever gym i go to uh yeah all right now it used to tell me 40 minutes to work in the morning now it says 40 minutes to starbucks bro i'm like i says 40 minutes to Starbucks. Bro. I'm like, I drink Starbucks every morning. And there's a Starbucks by my job in the building. But that's what it tells me

I'm going every morning. I watched one video of Robbie Williams. You know that English singer? Yeah. Mm-hmm. It was a YouTube video with him and Tyson Fury.

I just clicked it. It was two minutes long. Every other ad on Instagram is Robbie Williams live. Oh. So it's not good. The targeting isn't perfect. I'm not going to buy those tickets. But my point is, it's scary.

One YouTube video and then a completely different platform? Yeah. And this is all within the last decade. They figured out how to do this. Yeah. Even if we unplug, we're still plugged in. If we were all to delete everything that we have on social media right now, they got us already, bro. That's why I don't like all that Snapchat shit with the face filters and all that.

Did you see what they did to him? What'd they do to you? What'd they do to me? Oh, the AI thing? Yeah. This was nuts. They made a complete deep fake. They basically took all the recordings of me talking and made me say words that I've never said before.

It talked about me sponsoring a hockey team made entirely of chimpanzees and a bunch of other crazy shit that I might actually say, but it said it. I've never said those things. So they use my voice with artificial intelligence. They've all the sounds that my mouth makes, and they use it with all the right inflections, and they create these sentences.

Jay Pharoah is out of a job. They just passed the legislation about that. About deepfaking. Yeah, the congresswoman from Brooklyn. I can't remember her name. She just passed the legislation about deepfakes. They also did video

of the Mona Lisa talking. Bro. They got the Mona Lisa. They took the painting of the Mona Lisa and now she's opening her mouth and saying things. They can do it with Abraham Lincoln. How can you believe anything you hear on social media anymore, yo?

It's going to be in a few years you're not going to be able to. Now. You don't know what's true and what's not true and nobody cares about the truth and the lies more in a day. Maybe that's better. Maybe now we could say fucked up shit and be like, bro, deep fake. What are you talking about? Definitely deep fake.

Well, you're already getting porn with actresses. Maybe now we can say fucked up shit And be like bro deep fake What are you talking about Definitely deep fake Well it's You're already getting porn With actresses They're taking actresses face And putting them on porn stars And you can't tell Oh wait a minute Yeah

Oh you can fuck everyone Yeah And now they're gonna be able to do that With virtual reality So you're gonna be VR porn Yeah They have that

Yeah VR porn And they put something on your dick So it feels like Yeah they can put a little One of them little things That jerks you off nah

nah no you're faithful now you don't need this bro nah nah it's not the same it's not the same I'm old school

you like your palm yo I just started fucking listening to audible books because really I'm old school I like flipping the pages

of the book I just started listening to audible only because of time purposes and it's like it's like listening to long form podcasts I'm like you to Audible only because of of time purposes and it's like it's like listening to long form podcasts

I'm like you know what fuck it I'm still getting the information and I feel like at this age I retain information more by hearing it so I'm not about to go start fucking virtual reality

pussy so here's the shit that's not porn but could be interesting have you seen the one about the basketball games what okay so they put a few cameras

so you can sit front row but in vr oh i don't think i will mind that that's the best you're looking around you're seeing all the people that are actually there and your front row at the game yo last month i went to um i gotta use the bathroom i went to disney i went to disney and i went to that fucking that avatar avatar oh yeah flights of passage oh my Amazing. I had to write it twice. Yeah, me too. That shit was incredible. And, you know, I got anxiety. Right. So I'm on it and I'm like, holy shit. Until you just remember, I'm not even moving. Right.

And then it's just like it settles everything for you and then you can just enjoy the actual experience. And that helped me. I was telling my therapist about it because that helps me when I'm dealing with my anxiety because it's like breathing exercises, things that get you back to center. Even though you're falling and you can feel the dragon breathing on you, it's just like when you realize you're really not moving, it just brings you right back to center. Then you're okay. Then you're fine. You can't do that on a roller coaster.

No. Because that's real. Yes, it's real. But if they have a roller coaster with virtual reality, like if you're okay. Then you're fine. You can't do that on a roller coaster. No. Because you're really in the... Yes, it's real. But if they have a roller coaster with virtual reality, like if you're wearing virtual reality goggles and they put you on a roller coaster. But I can enjoy the... What do you mean? They put these goggles on and then while you're on this roller coaster, you're experiencing

things that aren't really there. But you're experiencing... You're going through wormholes and you're traveling. Nah. You're seeing things happen in front of you. I'd have a heart attack. I'd have a panic attack. That's not something I want to experience.

I'm glad you talk about anxiety. I'm glad you talk about it the way you do because I think you've opened it up for a lot of people. I think you've made it a subject that's okay to talk about for someone like you. that's okay to talk about for someone like you, who are like a cool guy, who's a smart dude, who is successful and talks openly about anxiety and about how it's affected you. I think you're doing a very big service for that. I didn't even know what anxiety was until 2010 because growing up in the environment that I grew up in, I just thought all those feelings were normal. I thought all those feelings of paranoia or, you know, being anxious all the time.

Like, you know, and I used to smoke weed. So, you know, when you smoke weed and you have a panic attack, you just blame it on the weed. Yeah. I remember driving to Burger King one time with two of my homeboys. One of them is dead now. His name is Jarrell, rest in peace, and my man Zeke. And I was high as hell and my steering wheel needed like steering fluid. So it was shaking.

So it was shaking my legs. And I'm bugging out just driving the Burger King a two-mile ride. I'm like, yo, one of y'all got to drive or we're all going to die. You better take the wheel right now. Take the wheel right now. I'm going to crash this motherfucking car. I'm tripping the fuck out. And they looking at me like, yo, don't let this motherfucker smoke no more. But it had nothing to do with the weed.

The weed probably accentuated it though, no? Definitely did. Because when I found out what anxiety was in 2010, and I didn't start going to therapy until like two years ago. Because back in 2010, when I got diagnosed with my first panic attack that somebody, the doctor, was saying, hey, this is a panic attack. I had just gotten fired from radio for the fourth motherfucking time. And I was back at home living with my mom at like 31 years old with a two-year-old daughter and, you know, collecting unemployment checks. So when I'm having this panic attack and I go to the doctor and he's like, yo, your heart is fine. You got a perfectly fine heart and you're healthy.

You got an athlete's heart. He was like, yo, are you stressed about anything? I'm like, fuck yeah. You know, so in my mind, all I got to do is get me another job, get back in position and everything will be okay. Get back in position and everything will be okay. Yeah. But when you get back in position and you've made more money than you've ever made in your life and you've got books that are selling and TV shows and all of this other shit and you're still having those same panic attacks, you're like, well, what the fuck is going on with me?

Pressure. That's it. That's exactly what it is. Pressure. You think you're going to lose everything. It's also you experience pressure that most people will never experience because you experience pressure at this public scale. It's not just pressure.

It's pressure with people's eyes on you and expectations and criticisms and all these different things that the average person is not going to experience that from millions of people. And you do. And it's just like,

it's always on. And if you're one of those crazy fucks that reads comments, good luck. Lord have mercy. Good luck. He'd love that. That was my problem for years.

At first, I used to enjoy it. Because I was the guy who came up on YouTube looking at all these world star hip hop conspiracy theories about people. And you'd be like, oh my God, this motherfucker sacrificed his hamsters and that's how he got successful. You know what I'm saying? You think all that shit is cool. Until you get older and then you start seeing things about you and you laugh at it at first. Right.

Until you realize like, all right, now they really starting to say some wild shit. What was the craziest one that you heard about you? I mean, for me, you know what it is. When they tried to me too the fuck out of me last year. They tried to get him out of here. You know, that was the wildest one to me because I was always the person that say, live your truth so nobody can use your truth against you. Right.

So it's not like they bought up anything that I hadn't spoken about numerous times before i've written about in my books they just decided to attack oh my god targeted targeted planned attack oh man it can happen it can it so that for me that was like all right this is going too far but then it's like you really can't do anything about it that's the other thing like there's there's no to fight it. Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, there's no way to put the toothpaste back in the tube. So the only thing you could do is just either let it consume you and probably ruin you

just because you took it all in or you just keep it the fuck moving. You have to be confident enough to know what's the truth and what's not the truth. Yeah, and so now you don't read any comments anymore? I don't go on Twitter at all twitter is too toxic that shit is like yeah we're in verbally abusive relationships with our fucking smartphones yeah i agree yeah it's not it's definitely not healthy you know we were talking about it yesterday me and uh duncan trestle we were saying that it's

like your diet like your diet if you take in junk food all the time but eat a bunch of shitty things that are unhealthy it's not good for your body. Well, your mental diet is important too. Yeah. And if you're always taking in these toxic arguments. Yeah. I mean, half of Twitter is just people screaming at each other. Yeah.

And just yelling and insulting each other and trying to find ways in this person's being shitty or wrong or negative. And it's like, that's not real life. No. The real life that we experience and that we're designed to experience is like this. People interacting with each other. Reasonably. It's one of the reasons why I think people like podcasts so much,

especially good podcasts where people have real conversations, is because you go, oh, okay, this resonates with me. Yeah. Whereas Twitter does not resonate with you. Right. Twitter just gets you anxious. Yes. It gets you upset.

Yes. Conversations where people are actually being nice to each other In person I don't do podcasts over Skype I don't like it I want to see you I want you to be in the room with me I want everyone to know we're going to be okay When you have these conversations And people listen to them

Just one-on-one like this Or two-on-one This is kind of what we're doing now This makes sense to people That's one of the reasons when I'm out and about like just one-on-one like this or two-on-one this this kind of what we're doing now yeah this makes sense to people yeah that's one of the reasons when i when i'm out and about and you know like if i'm at the airport and somebody comes up to me and talks to me i speak to them yeah because i feel like that interaction was supposed to happen right yes you know what i mean normal twitter instagram i ain't supposed to be talking to you on this shit yeah you're not supposed to be human

beings are not wired to be that wired no everybody should not have that kind of access to you. No. So it's just like, we gotta take back some of that access. And you see the facade fall apart when you respond to one of their tweets. Like, someone would be like, fuck you, Charlamagne, you ain't shit.

And then you could be like, why? And they're like, I'm just playing, bro, I'm a fan, I didn't really know what to say. For real, there's always that. They're just trying to get a reaction. They just want a reaction. In my mind, if people,

if you like somebody, right, you see them, you're going to go up to them and speak to them. I just try to gauge things on how I would do it, right? For example, I was on a plane with Steve Nash this morning. Okay. I saw Steve Nash. I'm like, Wax is like, oh, shit, Wax, my boy. He's like, oh, shit, that's Steve Nash.

And I'm like, oh, shit, that's Steve. I didn't speak to Steve. Did you say hello? No. Nothing? No. Okay. I didn't feel to Steve did you say hello no nothing no I didn't feel it even though I respect him

right right know he's a great player better feel with John Stockton that's a little different that's a little different you know what I'm saying that's a little different Steve I didn't feel

that was Steve there's some people you have to say hi to Rachel Dolezal get the fuck out of here I said hi did you I met her

Seattle absolutely where was she I saw her? Seattle Absolutely Where was she? I saw her with I think she had at least one kid Maybe another one She was just at the airport We're online

She's bisexual No TSA pre-check She's bisexual She's bisexual now too She's bisexual Biracial Oh no she's not biracial Transracial

She is black Transracial She's not both Transracial I know but what I'm saying is She's bi So she's straight and gay With the thing Yeah But I said hello Said what's bi So she's straight and gay With the thing

Yeah But I said hello Said what's up Amazing forehead One of the best foreheads You'll ever see In a game I would have ignored her

What? I would have ignored her Rachel Dole's out there You wouldn't have got the selfie? No I saw Jussie Smollett I took a picture of him Oh my goodness

In Lafayette Bakery What do you think Is going to happen with him? Nothing Nothing Absolutely Nothing It's amazing Nothing legally I took a picture of him. Oh my goodness. In Lafayette Bakery. What do you think is going to happen with him? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Nothing.

It's amazing nothing legally. It's amazing legally. Oh, I think Chicago's coming after him, though. You think so? Nah. Yeah. Didn't they say that they were going to- They're trying to get him for the money.

For the money that they spent. But that's not that much. There's no such thing as cancel culture no more. Cancel culture is absolute bullshit, bro. Ooh. Real. OJ Simpson proved that. Ooh.

You know what I'm saying? Like, when Bill Cosby comes home he'll be on the road doing a motherfucking stand-up r kelly's still out here selling shows like charlie sheen is still out here flourishing like charlie sheen ducked it all dude what wait a minute not wait a minute not all he did get that AIDS. He's got AIDS, buddy. He got the AIDS. He got the good AIDS. Today with medication. Exactly.

What is AIDS? Man. What is HIV? You're worse off getting the flu. Come on, man. Man, what is HIV? Yeah, what is it? Some say the greatest endorsement deal Magic Johnson ever signed. I'm saying we're not going to act like his career didn't flourish.

And it looks great Take this aid You're gonna get some movie theater I was in my car The day they announced On the radio That Magic Johnson Had HIV

And I was shit in my pants I was like Oh my god This is like the beginning Of a zombie movie We're all gonna get it If Magic Johnson With all his money

And all his fame If he's got it I'm gonna get it We're all gonna get it I was terrified Did you stop brawling? I remember in my car Driving And then I hear it on the radio.

I'm like, holy shit. Holy shit, this is insane. 30 years later, he looks great. He looks amazing. He looks great. He's on TV telling us why he left the motherfucking Lakers. He's like, fuck the Lakers. Not once did somebody say, yo, you know Magic got HIV?

Oh, I said it. This is how you- Shut up. No, you didn't. That's all I was thinking about every time I see him. Knock it off. Because he looks incredible. He does look incredible.

He does look incredible. Yeah. He does look incredible. He's not even positive in tests anymore. Wait, what? Yeah. I heard that. Yeah.

If you give him a test for HIV, he comes up negative. Because apparently these protease inhibitors and all these different things that they take to the different medications, you don't even test positive for hiv anymore by the way then listen it was this it was this older white dude and i forgot what tv show i was on the set of but he was explaining to me the whole situation with magic and he was like the reason that they chose magic was because they wanted to erase a lot of these stigmas people thought that uh hiv and age was a gay disease and they needed like a alpha male i guess to to have it to kind of erase that stigma and to let people know that you can live with it like hiv like they gave it to him well this is what he told us this is not

by the way this is not a charlemagne all right i'm telling you what somebody told me what they said to me was magic had got caught up in some type of scandal. Oh, I heard this. Underage, right? Yeah. And before the scandal came out, because the person that he was with was like some- Allegedly. Some big wigs child or something like that.

And so they said, this is what you're going to do so we don't ruin you. I'm not saying it's true. Now, Joe, before you take this in're going to do so we don't ruin you i'm not saying it's true before you take this in he believes in sasquatch no i'm not saying he believes sasquatch was real that just started right now on this podcast if i asked him yesterday he'd be like 100 there's i'm not saying i believe that magic theory i'm just repeating what i was told that that is a common rumor that's out there i've heard that i've heard that rumor is right that he doesn't actually have it but that it was either that or. But we just got done saying how you read rumors about you that are ridiculous and you go,

what the fuck? And then you realize, oh, this is what happens. People just make shit up and then people repeat the shit that people make up. Because we can't fathom that he beat AIDS, bro. AIDS was bodying people back in the day. Freddie Mercury. Freddie, gone. Yeah. Who else? back in the day. Freddie Mercury. Freddie. Gone.

Yeah. Who else? Eazy-E. Eazy-E, my downstairs neighbor. Yeah. He was your downstairs neighbor? No, no. I had a downstairs neighbor who had AIDS.

You've got to put a comma on this shit, man. I'm just saying. Listen. You can't throw that in the cinema. He's the neighbor with AIDS don't know I paused there I learned about AIDS Real young My downstairs neighbor

I thought Andrew Was in his 30s I'm like Easy E was your Downstairs neighbor I was like What the Look at Charlie Sheen

Look at him yo Book Charlie Sheen For 350 bucks Book him where On Cameo Oh Oh on Cameo What the fuck is Cameo

Why does he have Sunglasses on Like what is happening here What is What is he doing yeah he's strange somebody i was just showing you what he's up to he aged very quickly it's like see he seemed to be fine when he was doing two and a half men when he stopped doing that show he aged like a hundred years joe he has hiv we don't know how it's affecting him too i forgot he has exactly i forgot everybody everybody's not Magic Johnson here, okay?

I forgot he has it. I'm saying. Magic. By the way, that is why I say Magic is like the greatest NBA player of all time. Why? Because of that. He played 13 seasons in the NBA, went to nine NBA finals, won five of them, won in college, came in, won his rookie year, and went one-on-one

with HIV and fucking won. Destroyed it. He destroyed the stigma of HIV. He definitely did. Anybody that catches HIV right now, the first thing you're going to say to yourself is, give me magic, doc. I can live through anything if magic made it. Real talk.

You know what I'm saying? 30 years later, he's okay. It's not a death sentence anymore. That's it. And by the way- What's worse, herpes all over your dick for life. Not that it comes back and forth, but it's always there. Open blisters.

Forever? Forever. Or having HIV. Definitely. Herpes. It's worse. Ah, yeah. Because HIV, they can basically cure it.

If you have just the herpes on your dick forever, meaning those blisters don't go away, you can't even fuck. It'll hurt. No, the blisters go away. No, but he's saying that you get it forever. Do they? Yeah. You have heartbreaks.

I'm saying this specific type of real hardcore herpes, they never go away. They're just always there. They have one that doesn't go away? Hypothetically. We're just having a hypothetical. I don't want no hypothetical herpes. Did you ever see the Damon Wayans bit about Magic

when Magic came back to the NBA? No, no. Nobody wanted to block him. Except Dennis Rodman. Dennis Rodman was like, fuck you, I'll spit in your mouth and accelerate your symptoms. Bro. Just two people don't give Damon Wayans enough credit. Damon's a goat, man.

He's one of the greatest of all time. Damon's a goat. Don't give him enough credit. He is. We had to actually delete a Damon Wayans joke from the Breakfast Club because it used to play like you know

you have stuff that plays as a loop we had to delete it once the Me Too Time's Up era came can you say it I mean I'll say it Damon Wayans

Damon Wayans was on the Breakfast Club and he was talking about the Bill Cosby situation and he just goes yo man have you seen the women that are the Bill Cosby situation and he just goes, yo man, have you seen the women that are accusing Bill Cosby?

They're all unrapable. Damon Wayans said that. I was like, you know what? Swinging for the fences. He always has. Always has. He doesn't give a fuck, man.

But we do. So that's why we took that shit out of rotation. I understand. I understand. Not taking the heat for somebody else's words. Dennis Rodman said,

I'll spit in your mouth And accelerate your symptoms Bro Think about when Karl Malone Think about Karl Malone Everybody Right now Karl Malone

Would get so much flack for this What'd he say? But in the 90s What he said made sense Oh Cause none of us really knew What HIV AIDS was Do you remember what he said?

What'd he say? Oh about Karl was like I'm not playing basketball with him Like what if I hit him And he starts bleeding And he gives me like But that was what A lot of people were thinking sure how could you

be mad at him for not knowing for being ignorant about mosquitoes remember that yes i do what about mosquitoes i mean yeah that's reasonable though right i think what works with ebola and other shit no they can give you birth or some shit or malaria why can't they give you some hiv bro we used to be we used to be somebody said you can't get it in your mouth. I thought this was propaganda, but like, you can't get it in your mouth. Well, if something comes in your mouth? Yeah, you can't get it. Did magic tell you that?

What? What? Free tickets to the movie theater for life? What? By the way... What are you talking to that show? What? That would be the line, right?

If you got HIV AIDS, like, look, you can't get it. You can't get it. There's no way to get it, though. It just comes in your mouth. It just comes in your mouth. It just comes in your mouth. Don't worry. That would be the line. That would be the line, bro.

Oh, my God. Did you just put it up? All the mosquitoes are carriers of yellow fever, dengue fever, Japanese encephalitis. Encephalitis. There's no evidence that mosquitoes can transmit HIV. Studies with HIV have shown clearly the virus disappears in the mosquito after about one to two days. Yeah, but what if that shit bites you and then bites you? Bro, look at that last line.

I've never heard it described like that. The time required for the mosquito to digest the blood meal? Ew. Jesus Christ. They don't even talk about vampires like that. The blood meal. So that means if they get someone who's got HIV and then they get to you within one to two days, doesn't that seem like it would get you?

Bro. That's all I'm saying. It's a reasonable thing to ask. These are reasonable things to ask. I don't have to worry about shit like that. I'm married. Well, the real fear is pandemic diseases. I'm out to game.

Yeah, but not for fucking. We're talking about you're on the beach In Anguilla Some dude with Charlie Sheen's next to you Spitting in you Spitting in your mouth Yeah Just some tiger blood Jesus Christ

Tiger blood You remember when people Used to use that Hashtag tiger blood Hashtag winning Yo Charlie had a moment He had a moment He had a moment

HIV killed his moment That was the thing That killed his moment That's the only thing We couldn't handle That's the only thing That's the only thing we couldn't handle. That's the only thing. Before that, he was his fucking name.

You're not winning anymore, bro. You got the him. Yeah, that winning shit don't sound too, I don't believe you, right? He's coughing. You know what I mean? You're not winning, bro.

Yeah, he was just a wild dude. You know why I don't, the difference between Magic and Charlie, I don't think Charlie was ever cool to anybody. Magic was cool to people. Yeah, like we wanted to be Magic at some point in our lives.

Everybody wanted to be Magic Johnson. This is his live show. What are you showing? His stand-up is that big. That was in 2011. This was when he was on that big thing after he went crazy. But that's the problem. These bombed.

Well, you know what fixed that, though? It was Russell Peters fixed that. What? How? Russell Peters fixed it because he went with him. So what happened was Charlie was trying to do it by himself and really didn't have anything to say. And people would get bored after a while and they would boo him and like he was like oh fuck you

i have your money and he's like a bunch of dumb shit because he tried to do this live tour but he didn't plan it out right so then what he did is he brought russell peters with him so russell who's the best at working the crowd right he could just make something out of nothing right so russell just got him to talk and and then Russell would start talking shit and making fun, and someone would say something, and Russell would incorporate that. Russell treated it like a comedy show and turned it into something that was actually good. I had no clue it was good.

So then a bunch of people would go see him live. He should have just did a fucking- So it was, well, Russell's there, so it's going to be good because Russell's there. Right. Russell's going to handle it and turn it into funny. Charlie should have just did a podcast. Yeah. That sure to do yeah when all the podcasts back then nobody cared about podcasts it was early have some stories though dude oh yeah all those cracked stories and the hookers if you're willing to tell them though oh he's telling he's already got aids

what's worse well you remember when he was on television he was talking about just smoking rocks yeah just all this and the people are like what yeah like what are you saying but did that excite people in 2019 like we've seen all the crackheads no back then it was the right window of time yeah it was like him coming through and just being unapologetic about doing drugs and and you don't pay hookers to fuck you you pay him to leave the kind of shit that he was saying everybody's like what it was unapologetic and that's why it resonated and that's also why no one could get him with a Me Too thing. It's like, of course, he'll tell you what he did. First of all, no woman is going to say they slept with Charlie Sheen.

Now, for sure. Yeah. Maybe he did that to protect himself. Shut the fuck up. Did he mean me? Did he mean me? Dog, if you're about to catch that Me too, you just go, I got AIDS. And those girls get quiet real quick.

Holy shit. That's genius. We just found a way around the system. Oh, my God. It might be a cheat code. What if that's what Leo says every time a girl leaves the house? Oh, by the way, positive. Oh, my God.

You're not supposed to say shit. Maybe he's just really nice to them. They like him. They don't want to fucking throw him under the bus. Some guys are like, Leo's like that. Drake. I don't know about Drake. Derek Jeter.

Oh, Derek Jeter. Derek Jeter was giving out gift bags, baby. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Can you imagine the gift bags? Remember when that came out? He was giving signed baseballs. Yeah.

Think about how many guys have gotten a signed baseball from their girlfriend as a gift. Oh, no. Think about what was going through their heads when they read the post that moment, and there's this signed Derek Jeter baseball on their fucking mantle. Dude. Yeah. Your girlfriend blew Derek Jeter.

No, other girls might have, but he was just nice to me. He's a gentleman. You got to earn that gift, man. No. You got to earn it. What Joe's saying is very true, though. That's why I always say,

when I see dudes still treating women like shit in 2019, like, yeah, fucking them and kicking them out the room and like, ah, I'm not answering the phone for an hour after I fuck. I'm like, you're wiling. You should be treating her with the utmost respect and being extremely nice to her because you just never know. Uber. Uber.

She's your friend. Uber. Yes. She should be. Yeah, she should be your friend. Like, I don't understand why guys like I don't know

I say this all the time why do y'all still call them women bitches some of them are bitches we have to acknowledge that there's some bitches out there some of them like it in a positive way

like check this bad bitch out yes that's okay but some of them are just old school bitches but there's some bitches where it's like you're saying it

in a derogatory way like you can say it in a positive way you're laughing about it or you can say it in a derogatory way. Like you could say it in a positive way, you're laughing about it, or you could say it in a derogatory way. Yeah. Sometimes I'll say it

in a derogatory way. As a man? Yeah. Because I mean it. As a man in 2019, no. What about twat? I've never used that ever. What about cunt?

Nah, I've never used cunt. He got in trouble for using the word cunt. I did? You got in trouble? Yeah. You're in trouble, but you got outraged.

He's fucking arrogant at you? Yeah. He's Nicki Minaj fans. I want to ask you this. First of all, I think what you're doing with YouTube is genius. It's brilliant.

You're the first comic to really capitalize on using YouTube. You know, Netflix didn't want to give you a special. Like, fuck, I don't need you.

Let me do this. It'll get more views. And it has. And it's been amazing. It's been beautiful to watch. But are you experiencing, because of the popularity increase are you experiencing some pushback on some of your material because you go hard bro the weirdest thing no it's like we've curated an expectation for it so the people that are going there are waiting for it it's not people who like got free

tickets from the funny bones website they know what you do they're there for it they're there to watch you talk about eating ass dude eat an ass we were just talking about this on on a pod on uh the other day but like you're just talking about how privileged you have to be to eat ass no seriously because think about all these third world countries where they can't even eat food but we're so full in america republic you can't have a fucking cocktail without almost dying you think they they're eating ass? In America, we're so full. We got so many choices that we choose to eat ass when we want to. For fun. Yeah.

But bro, I'm telling you, they're not. It's pretty amazing. They're all leaning into it. And I think that people have had enough with the PC shit. So they really like to see the fact that this is out there. And I mean, we're posting, you know, I'll tell you one thing. The Joe Rogan effect. We used to do a million views a week

On my YouTube channel And I came on here Two million now Wow Wow Doubled That's crazy Doubled

We'll see what happens now I mean we'll see It was nuts bro You get the Charlemagne effect in there too Dude Well we do a podcast I mean The channel exists because of the Charlemagne effect

My channel exists Because we're putting the Brilliant Idiots Idiots videos out every week on the channel like without him that channel doesn't exist i mean like you two guys i swear to god have the biggest influence on the market and it's like he gave me this opportunity to have all these people view and i was able to put the stuff out and luckily they liked it but the same thing happened here we just doubled up again i mean it's crazy that it's all dependent upon generosity and being a fan Cause that's what I do I mean when I'm talking

To a scientist Or talking to you I'm a fan I'm interested I'm curious And it's not like You're putting on some fuck shit Right

You know what I'm saying Like Andrew's funny He's been funny For years So now everybody else Is actually realizing What we all knew already Yeah

And the limitations Of like those platforms putting you on, like Netflix or HBO or something like that, that doesn't exist anymore. And it's not you. You're not playing your whole game. You go get in those systems and they teach you how just to shoot three-pointers.

You know what I'm saying? Instead of fucking cultivating your whole game. That's why, you know, brilliant idiots, I love brilliant idiots. I try not to promote Brilliant Idiots. I know this sounds crazy, right? No, but go.

This is interesting. Go. And the reason I do is because I love our audience. I love that group of people who come to listen to us every week. They know that we just out here saying some wild shit, not even on purpose, just because we're trying to get ideas out and we're just talking through things. It's when you bring those outsiders in who hear you, don't know any context to nothing, take that little piece out of context, give it to the rest of the world.

Now the rest of the world is outraged. We didn't ask y'all to come over here any fucking way. You know what I'm saying? We want to be wild. We want a place for that. Let's talk about that because where do you think that's going? Is outrage culture reached full outrage? It's coming back

we turned it around I agree you know what's made me think about that two situations in the past two weeks I can't remember the first one but the Whoopi Goldberg

one from yesterday with Bella Thorne I didn't hear it Bella Thorne she took some nude pictures somebody was gonna expose them so she just shared them herself first

I think somebody hacked her I don't know what it was somebody hacked her cloud somebody hacked her cloud they're trying to say hey we're gonna put this out unless you give us money or some shit she's like fucking i'm gonna put my own shit on twitter yeah so whoopi goldberg gets on a great set of juggernauts i didn't even see it lovely whoopi gets on the view and whoopi goes look it's 2019 when you take pictures they go up to the cloud hackers can hack you so don't take pictures

yeah she was like it's just common sense like it's not it's not worth it just don't take the pictures everybody's like oh you're victim shaming but i thought that i thought that was what the outrage was gonna be it wasn't they was like oh shit whoopi you're talking super common sense now bella came out and said she was being victim shamed but the general public on social media was like so y'all are mad at whoopi for talking common sense and i was like And I was like, oh, shit. You can't say it's victim shaming if she's correct. Because we are moving into an era where all information is going to be available to everybody.

I think that's going to be a thing that we're going to have to overcome. That privacy is going out the window. Done. It's not going to exist anymore. Our expectations of privacy are so much different than people that lived in our parents' age. Well, our kids, it's going to be even less. And then their kids, nonexistent. Joe, they didn't even know FDR was crippled.

That's right. FDR was crippled? Yeah. See? They didn't know. He would literally hold himself up at the podium. I think he got polio or some shit as a kid. Right?

So he was paraplegic. Yeah. Right? But the press respected his role as president and they respected his privacy. I mean, he had side bitches. He had all this shit going on. And he would just stand up at the podium holding himself up whenever you were talking. Everything else besides that, they kind of roll him around.

But the people didn't know because there wasn't this access. Oh, I want us to get back to lying to each other. Oh, talk to me. Because think about it. It used to be a time where you didn't know what somebody's religion was you didn't know what somebody's political views were like you didn't like nobody knew like you just went you presented and you went the fuck home i think we need to get back to that well i think it's too much motherfucking so every so-called truth get back in the closet not just with your gay shit just whatever get back the

bullshit in each other everybody should just get back the bullshit in each other. Everybody should just get back the bullshit in each other. Because guess what? Remember how they used to say, you don't want the truth because you can't handle the truth? That this era, the world cannot handle truth. That's why they want to tell us about UFOs. What? What do you think is happening with UFOs? They won't tell us that UFOs exist.

Because if they told us that UFOs exist, motherfuckers would probably go crazy. When the reality is, we really probably need to know UFOs exist because it would humble the fuck out of everyone. Well, that's the only time we get along. Right? Like in every movie, right? The only time Russia and China and America get on a conference call is when the aliens are coming. Fuck the movies. Ronald Reagan said that in a speech in the 80s.

Ronald Reagan told Mikhail Gorbachev, why the fuck are we beefing? Because one day we might have an extraterrestrial threat and then we got to come together. And everybody was like, why the fuck are we beefing? Because one day we might be, we might have an extraterrestrial threat, and then we got to come together. And everybody was like, what the fuck is Ronald Reagan talking about? How quickly we would put aside our differences. We were faced with a threat from an alien world. And everybody was like, what does he know?

We're going to find out tonight. Joe, we're going to find out tonight. By the way, I would respect your prejudice If aliens came And you still held on To whatever the fuck you held on to If you still hated black people

If you were still racist If you were still homophobic If you were still transphobic After the aliens came I'd be like shit No this is bigger than the alien life That's not a girl That's a fucking dude in a dress

Men can't get pregnant Hold on E.T. Men can't get pregnant Oh my god I E.T. Men can't get pregnant. Oh, my God. I would respect the fuck out of that. I'd be like, okay, all right. That's how you know it's true. That's how you know it's real.

That's what's up. Bro, as long as it's real, I really don't have no choice but to respect it. But I think you're right. Even if I don't agree with it. Joe, I think you're right. I think we're getting to the end of outrage culture. I think it's almost over. We put out a clip this last week Of there was this kid

In the front row In a wheelchair Heckling me I saw that Son That was hilarious And we went back and forth And initially I put it out

Like oh fuck What's gonna happen Am I gonna have these Like you know People rolling up to my shows And like fucking Posts and stuff No you handled it really well

He was also a special kid Yeah He had something You know how people have it You remember around people And they just have a fucking Yeah Like they have a

You know who has it Ari Ari Ari Shafir he has this fucking i don't know there's something i just when i'm around him i just like him yeah i just kind of want him to tell me his opinions on shit you just ask him how do you feel about yeah but he's just he's like how do you feel about carpets and he'll just fucking tell you like i'm done with him whatever so it's like he just had this thing and he had such positive energy and i'm making fun of the guy from fucking being in a wheelchair and he's making fun of me for having a shitty upper body. And like, literally, I go to him, I was like, I said, you know, your upper body's pretty good. And he goes, what's your excuse?

Like, quick, quick. And we have this moment and no backlash. Here's the thing. It was cool. No backlash should matter except for the guy in the wheelchair. Right. If everybody else is like, oh, why the fuck are you picking on him? If the guy in the wheelchair don't care and the guy in the wheelchair is going back and forth, why the fuck are you jumping in this?

There's never people that have it. Never. It's always parents of people that have things. Like when there was this person that had a seizure in one of my videos, everybody who had seizures was cool with it. It was always a parent of a kid who had a seizure who was like, my son suffers from how dare you put a clip up like that. So it's always offense on behalf of. Because I really think that people who suffer for things, they've went through way harder

things than a joke. Yeah. And they actually like that they're being spoken to as a regular person in the audience, not babied like every other part of their life. Can I get the door for you? Can I get? Yeah. Yeah.

It's like they, all right, for for the first time I'm in it I don't I don't I don't post I won't post or like make jokes or talk shit about something that I wouldn't want to happen to me or somebody I love though right you know I'm saying like yeah I can handle right you know I'm saying yeah like HIV AIDS I don't want it if i got it i wouldn't trip you know if i got it i wouldn't trip too hard you know what i mean it's not what we used to think it was so it's a different thing yeah do you know what bug catchers are yeah what's a bug go around fucking people who have those they try to get it yeah there's a bunch of guys in the gay community we're trying to get HIV. You know who heard that? Yeah. That should make my screen crawl.

Hold on. Self-loathing people that wanted to get HIV. And this was back in the day where it was a death sentence. There was a lot of guys that were doing that. Hold on. Their goal? Their goal. Yeah.

They would put out ads like Craigslist looking for HIV positive guys to give me the bug. This is why cults happen because people need to be part of something. It's like in them. Imagine one imagine some people are just broken exactly because i heard about that 20 years ago and i thought that was crazy but now that i'm thinking about it i'm like what was their life like yeah i need to know what their life was like if they had something to lose if they was actually successful would they be doing that yeah i didn't know what kind of people were out there trying to catch this bug. There's every step in the spectrum of crazy. You think about it and there's a whole fucking category

of people that are doing that. So bug catching was one of them. It was a big thing where guys were actively going out and trying and guys who had HIV were trying to go give it to people. That's why the thing with karma

I don't even necessarily believe in karma anymore because every day of our life we're trying to avoid crazy. Right? Yeah. But you can't. You know what I'm saying?

When a guy comes in with a gun and he shoots up a motherfucking school like what are we supposed to do? We didn't do anything to cause that

but he's got something going on with his life that caused him to snap and it affected us. Like if you're walking down the street and you know a guy's just angry about something he bumps into you and you're like oh excuse me he's like what the fuck you mean excuse me and he's ready to fight that don't got nothing to do with you right that's got everything to do with him so you really can't avoid this crazy yeah that exists i had a conversation with someone they were talking about like everything in your life you have manifested and created i go

okay explain babies who get shot and drive-bys. Shut the fuck up. There's random things that happen. Kids get leukemia. What, would they do something bad? Come on. Shit's bigger than you.

That's the thing that people hate to hear. We are a very small part of this big fucking ecosystem. We really think that everything in our life is that important that it could affect the world? Get the fuck out of here. Sometimes- There's too many random factors you know you think about the secret like

the law of attraction your thoughts become things i think the thing that we forget about that is not only do our it's not just our thoughts it's our actions you know what i'm saying it's not like you're just sitting around you didn't think you didn't sit around and think about doing this you actually put in some fucking work that's the difference between the secret and reality is that people think that you think things into existence But no When you're successful And people say

What did you do? Well I thought this into existence Show me how you did that Well I got up every morning at 6am And I fucking hustled to the gym And then I wrote jokes all day There you go Okay listen bitch

You did this You put in the work Yeah yeah You put in the work It's like literally if somebody says to you Hey one day you're going to win the lottery. So you just sit at home all day waiting to win the lottery. Get up and go to the fucking store and buy a Powerball ticket.

You know what I'm saying? I think Chappelle had that joke. He's like, you don't think there are starving kids in Africa thinking about food? Right. They thinking. That's the truth. They're thinking about a nice roast beef sandwich. It ain't coming.

Exactly. Now, don't get me wrong. There's plenty of things that I've thought about that I've manifested. But like you said, I took the steps to go put in the work. You focused. There's a process. Discipline. I got this theory called putting the weed in the bag.

You know what I'm saying? And it came from the movie Belly because Nas and DMX was sitting at this table with these two young kids and they were bagging up the weed. And all the kids were like, yo, I want to go out there and get money with y'all. I want to go out there and get money. And DMX was like, put the weed in the bag first. Then go out there and get money. You have to go through the process.

So it can start with a thought, but you still got to execute. Put some fucking work in. I remember I was talking to this girl. She was a friend of a friend of mine, and she was telling me how I found the secret, and my life is going to be amazing now, and I'm going to get married,

and I'm going to meet the right man. And everybody's like, OK. And then I ran into her like a year later. She came to one of my comedy shows. And I'm like, how's everything going? She's like, I don't get it. I've been using the secret. But my life is a mess.

My father's in jail. Everything is chaos. She was a sweetheart of a person. But she really believed that her life was going to transform. I'll never forget the juxtaposition of those two conversations. That's why the positions that we're in in media, you have to be very responsible with these positions. Malcolm X said that. Malcolm X said the person who controls the media controls the minds of the masses.

So you have to be very, very responsible. I remember when you used to get a lot of flack for putting on just different voices that people didn't agree with yeah and they'd be like why are you giving these people a platform a platform

I'm like yo everybody deserves to be heard yeah I guess not everybody but just I want to know how people think too

I want to even if I don't agree with them especially people you don't agree with a conversation isn't a cosign and I think that's what we we often mistake. Well, in this day and age, too, especially on the left, so many people are talking about deplatforming. They want to deplatform people.

I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like it either. I saw people getting mad at LaVar Ball this week. You know what I'm saying? Because of the comments he made to Molly on ESPN, which I didn't. She was like, hey, let's shift gears. And he was like, you can shift gears with me anytime. But he said it just like that. You can shift gears with me anytime. He didn't Which I didn't He just was like She was like Hey let's shift gears And he was like You can shift gears With me anytime

But he didn't He said it just like that You can shift gears With me anytime He didn't say He didn't whisper You can shift gears With me anytime

It was a placeholder If she had said Hey let's switch it up He would say Hey you can switch it up With me anytime That's all But people was like

Oh they need to stop Putting him on ESPN I'm like wait a minute Calm down Literally just last year Y'all was saying He was the drunk uncle At the picnic

and you love him or you hate him he's good entertainment but now because he said that you want to take him off and I'm like we got to stop doing that because guess what

every single one of us is going to say something that is going to offend somebody at some point in time that doesn't mean that we shouldn't have a platform

I'm not calling for nobody to get killed it also makes things fun when people say stupid shit sometimes you know when Stephenhen smith was going off about andrew louise winning the title and about it looks like butterbean this is a disgrace there was mad like the guy is speaking the way he would speak if you were around him yeah do you gotta appreciate that unless you want everybody to be ryan seacrest you should fucking appreciate not there's anything wrong with ryan seacrest but you should appreciate Someone who's just giving you

What they really think Yes And we do That's why he's so popular We pretend to hate it But the reality is We're gonna keep listening The second he gets a rant

But there's also attention A lot of people are like Oh alright That's America feeds off of that shit That's why Donald Trump Is president That's why the Kardashians

Are still viable That's why the Kardashians Are the first family Of fucking America There's drama every year Every year they find A new piece of drama Once shit gets calm and cool

The show ends So they need a new piece of drama Oh you got cheated on this year Who's gonna have a baby You gonna be the baby But whatever it is Every year Hey you gonna chop your dick off

But you know what I respect Her for with Kim She's getting people out of jail She's going for it Legitimately I can go back before that I respect the Kardashians Because if we really

Really pay attention To the Kardashians Over the past 10 years First of all You gotta put them up there With some of the greatest Dynasties of all time I'm talking about

This is Lakers This is Patriots This is fucking They've made billions Yes Billions with a B So many social conversations Have started

Because of the Kardashians You're talking about Interracial relationships You're talking about The transgender. You're talking about interracial relationships. You're talking about the transgender thing. You're talking about drug use. Mental health with Kanye. Ass jobs. Yeah.

Plastic surgery. They did change the shape of American women. They changed asses. Globally. They changed asses. They made that whole fat relocation thing popular. They suck it out of your waist, turn your waist into this little thing, and turn your ass into this ridiculous platform. Well, let's be for real kim kim learned that from black

women though because people forget but but that's a bio the when when the you would look at someone who really has it yeah it's different absolutely you see a woman who has a big ass naturally it looks like it belongs on her yes it's a different thing yeah yeah they have thick legs right they're they're they're fucking genetically superior they're built like a turkey they're built sexy yeah kim kim's inspiration you know people don't remember kim came up in the the black circuit right she did king magazine and smooth that's right that's right you know what i'm saying like she was on wendy williams radio show earlier that's what i met her I met her when I was doing radio with Wendy he knew her before

she was ever on anything when she was who's assistant someone's assistant she was Paris Hilton no she used to organize she used to organize closets for Paris Hilton

I got an old picture like me and Kim from like 2006 she looked so different wow but I will say she always had that vision

she used to always say I'm gonna do what Paris is doing times 100. Wow. She did it. She motherfucking did it. The secret. She used the secret.

Secret is black dick. That's the secret. Smoke a black cock. It's amazing that that kicked her off because it used to be the kiss of death. If a girl did porn, that was the end. Lisa Ann. Yeah. She was the one to break that down.

Well, was it her or Jenna Jameson? I think Jenna Jameson was the first one to become actually popular outside of porn. Oh, I thought you meant like the first person to break like the racial barrier in porn. Oh, yeah. On purpose. She was the first to break the racial barrier, but I mean doing porn, period. Oh, yeah. Where you could be a celeb outside of porn.

Yeah. You talk about radio. It's not too many people that came up off celebrity sex tapes. It's only few and far between that really popped off. Who made it off of sex tapes? Do you remember when girls were showing their pussy on purpose? Remember when they would get out of cars? And the camera just happened to be down where their pussy is?

How the fuck did you not know that camera was down near your pussy? They set that up. Yeah, that became a thing. That was a move. That's a lot of confidence to have a pussy. They were climbing out of their cars

showing their pussy. Not a lot of witch fingers, Joe. What is happening? Not a lot of witch fingers. That's all the more reason you gotta respect Kim K, bro. Yes. That girl that was

hopping out of cars and you could see her vagina and was doing the sex tapes is out here getting prisoners free. She is doing that. I don't give a fuck. Yes. I don't give a fuck if she's best friends with Donald Trump.

Yes. I don't care. See, that's my thing, right? If you care about prison reform, you care about criminal justice reform. Yes. You should be happy that these people are getting out. Yeah. If you're worried about, oh, she's doing it in the White House with Donald Trump, who

gives a shit? You think the guy who just did 15 years gives a fuck? For nothing. For nothing cares what president let him out? Exactly. And she doesn't have to do this. Right. She could just be buying cars and getting her nails done.

She's choosing to spend her time to get these people that are unjustly accused and convicted and get them released. And Trump, like him or not, he's listening to her and he's helping her. But you know why? Because he's a celebrity. He understands the PR angle, yeah. So you keep sending all these politicians to talk to a celebrity. That shit goes over his head.

You've got to send another celebrity to get in his ear because he understands that type of language. He just understands their power. He understands where their reach is. He knows that Kim K doing something is way more valuable than some random, you know, democratic Congress person. Well,

you're seeing that so much. Now you look at Capitol Hill the past few weeks, you see, you know, I was there, me, me, T.I.

and David Gross was there talking about opportunities on legislation. I was there with Taraji talking about bringing social, emotional learning in schools and therapy. You had a, a tiny, he see coach and Danny Glover was dead as we talking about HR 40. You had John Stewart. They're talking about the victims of 9-11

needing to be compensated. Bro, I didn't even, by the way, the 9-11 shit, I didn't even know that was going on. If Jon Stewart hadn't have done that,

I would have never even known that was going on and that is fucked up and it was a simple statement. The people you said you would never forget, you forgot. Woo!

That's not going over nobody's head. Anybody can get that. You can be with no teeth sitting in fucking South Carolina In a trailer park You understand You understand that language

And again Jon Stewart doesn't have to do that Doesn't have to do that Because he needs to It's in him Yeah It gives you a different Sense of purpose

Yeah Like that's what really Means something When you talk to me about Talking about anxiety And mental health Like the past couple years I feel like I've been

Walking in my purpose You know Because I truly feel like If we can get more people To deal with their Mental health issues, you'll reduce so much of the other bullshit

we're complaining about in America. The violence, the gun shootings, because when you got a bunch of people who have never dealt with their trauma,

never dealt with their pain and they hurt, hurt people, hurt people. And all we do is go around redistributing that pain to others. You think murderers and rapists do that shit

because it's for the thrill of it? No, they are broken, damaged people people so they go and break and damage other people yes so if you can get people to deal with their mental health issues man that's the foundation of it all to me that's the real secret getting to the root of that shit yeah there is a thing about about purpose that like what happens i think when when some people reach financial independence and i mean like Fuck you money Meaning like You don't have to work anymore

Your family Everything is good You have Some people go Well I'm gonna get even more money And I'm gonna become a billionaire And a trillionaire Whatever

And then some people go I'm gonna live life Instead of survive it If you're working every week So you can get a paycheck There's absolutely nothing wrong with that That's the majority of people But you are surviving

Yes That job is no different Than being out there in the forest trying to find some foods you can eat we have some shelter you get financial independence you have the opportunity to truly do whatever you want every single day of your life yes and some people go you know what i want to do i want to go to fucking dc and help out with these causes or I want to put on a whole comedy community you know what I mean and like you really put it on your back I want to help other people out I want to have these conversations and just talk shit about you know fucking magic having HIV whatever it is we're actually choosing to do the things that we enjoy because you realize what's important like

even when you're talking about something like opportunities on legislation I feel like that goes hand in hand with mental health because the environment is so important. So if you can, you know, get into these communities, these poor and disenfranchised areas and you can start putting things in these communities

that people actually need, like in the hood, you replace the liquor stores and the fucking chicken spots and the check cashing places with, you know, juice bars and mental health spas

and, you know, wellness centers, things that people actually need. Now you're creating an things that people actually need now you're creating an environment where people can thrive in instead of just trying to fucking survive in yeah you know what i'm saying you can't properly deal with your mental health if you're trying to survive every fucking day well i think what you're doing is very important is you're bringing up that conversation that conversation wasn't taking place before the mental health conversation about

anxiety amongst cool successful people it just wasn't happening everybody was pretending everybody was they're they're hiding from it you keep your secrets like you got you got the float tank in your fucking compound yeah you are you telling people about that oh yeah okay i'm one of the reasons why that thing became popular again i got one in 2002 wow yeah i just did it for the first time like two weeks ago yeah man if you go to some float places they'll ask you how you found out about it. It's like, did you find out from the internet, Yelp, and then they'll say Joe Rogan. Wow.

Because I talk about it so much. There's videos of me. I gave one away. I gave one away. I had bought a new one, and I said, I'm going to give one away. And I just got random emails, and I picked one of them. Had it sent to this guy's house. Had it set up.

Just because I wanted people to know about what these things are. I've never felt stillness like I felt inside a float table house, had it set up. I just, cause I wanted people to know about what these things are. I've never felt stillness. Like I felt inside a float tank. Yeah. It's amazing. And it's like, you know, at first you're like,

okay, they want you to get butt naked. You don't know if they're recording you. You don't know what the fuck's going on. You know what I'm saying? And then they're like, nah, it's completely dark.

You got a lot of confidence in your cock, bro. I wasn't even swinging that day. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a grower, not a shore. My shit is like,

I wasn't swinging that day. No, I wasn't. I actually was trying to make it a little chubby. It was a Thursday, broursday bro i can't be sweet i actually was trying to make it a little chubby just in case you can't trust these people i don't know my fucking might be recording me in this shit so the lights went off and it's like when you first get in it's allowing yourself to relax because at first you're fighting it a little bit you got your head up you're like i don't know if i'm gonna drown but when you finally just relax you don't you don't even know where the fucking

hour went right and i've never experienced a level of stillness like that it was point it was periods where i thought i was actually i'm like am i alive right now right because your eyes are open but it's totally dark it's totally dark so you don't know if you're really sleep and you don't feel the water you don't feel the water you don't know if you're in and out of consciousness it's it's it's wild everybody should do flow therapy yeah i agree guys what is the uh hardest part about having influence that's a nice pregnant pause that was dope right yeah and then the clock was going. You heard that clock. You heard that shit. That was hard.

That was me switching the cameras. Oh, the camera switching. Well-timed. Yeah, I don't know. What's the hardest? I don't think about it that way. I think it's very, there's very few people that have the opportunity to have the kind of influence that you or I have. Yeah.

Or you. It's very, very strange. I think you've got to realize what harm you can do. You've got to be careful in the kind of things you say or the kind of things you promote, the kind of things that you sign off on or agree to. And I think there's also a responsibility to tell people about cool shit, tell people about things that have benefited you, to help people about how you've overcome your own personal mistakes i think all those things are very important yeah i never i never even thought about having influence until like the past three four years because you know

right i'm just out here doing my thing just doing it but then when you real when you realize you are having influence and a lot of that influence could be negative yeah that's when you realize like oh shit let me make sure i'm doing the right things with these platforms you know i mean let me make sure i'm bringing on the right voices that people can learn from let me make sure i'm telling people about the things in my life that are making me a better person so for me it's like the best compliment i get nowadays and people say man you've really grown like you've you've really evolved like like it's visible people can see it Yeah

That right there Let's me know I'm putting out The right energy Into the ecosystem Yeah and it also People become inspired To seek that same

Kind of path When someone In the public eye Like yourself And they see you grow And expand And change your views On things

It also inspires Other people To open up themselves And change their own perspective and enhance their own way of looking at the world. Yeah, I can admit when I'm wrong. I've said a lot of fucked up wild shit. You know what I'm saying?

You're going live on the air. You're not reading a script. You're free balling. It's going to happen. Every day. And I think the worst thing that can happen, too, is for me, Breakfast Club has only been going on for nine years. So I never had experienced this level of attention.

And, you know, you start reading things about yourself in the media. Like you read real articles. You're like, oh, the hip hop Howard Stern. And I'm like, oh, so I got to be like Howard? So I got to give him more of that shit? So what Howard, though? Right. Because I'm giving him a little bit of 90s Howard.

That's what I'm fucking with. What Howard do y'all fuck with right right you know so it's just like you can get caught up in that yeah you know you could get caught up in what people's expectations of you are yes change you know a lot of people say that happens to uh certain comedians they become their character dice dice yeah i was gonna bring that up his name is andrew silverstein yeah the dice man Man was a character that he would do in his bit he would do he would do a routine where he would be John Travolta he would do a Sylvester Stallone and then he would do this character called the Dice Man and that part was so funny and so

good it took over his whole act yeah I went toe-to-toe with Dice one time toe-to-toe yeah on Wendy Williams show back in the day when I was Wendy's sidekick and you know Wendy VH1 Wendy had' show back in the day when I was Wendy's sidekick. And you know, Wendy, VH1, Wendy had a show on VH1 and Andrew Dice Clay had a show on VH1, so they bought him on to promote it. And like, we just ended up going, I don't know why the fuck we ended up going back and forth. Snapping on each other? Yes. And like, VH1

edited it to make it look like he like kind of fucked me up, but they kept a couple of mine in. He was really upset. Like, I called him, I said, you look like a fat Fonzie. And he fucking And he And he Fucking

Lost it He was like Who the fuck are you You fucking carry One of these bags For a fucking living And I'm like Oh shit

It's on I got you It's on I was like You look like a fucking You're supposed to be able To laugh at that I thought it was funny

I would have been able To laugh at that If I looked like a fat Fonzie I'd be like Oh shit Damn You'd have to go Damn to laugh at that If I looked like a fat Fonzie I'd be like Oh shit Damn You'd have to go Damn

I was on his ass He was like A discontinued Terminator model You remember the Terminator That shit was interesting His leather jacket A discontinued Terminator model But what you said is real

Because I never want to become A caricature of myself Right And I feel like It was a certain point in my life Where I was becoming A caricature Of myself And it's like That's not certain point in my life where i was becoming a caricature of myself and it's like that's not real like you can't claim claim to be a real person

and be out here pretending to be real you're either real or you're not yeah and what's real is yo being honest about going to a therapist what's real is being honest about your mental health issues what's real is talking about being a father like like real shit like you can't always be trying to be cool yeah that's not cool that's fake and that only existed when there was like some sort of a you're you're projecting something you're putting something out there in these small bits when you're doing what you do and you're talking for hours and hours on you gotta be you gotta be you at the end of the day it's gonna come out whether you like it or not there's no other options and the people with the longest careers i feel like are the people who evolve over time.

Boom. Boom. Yeah. You could see the guys who have real growth. Like Howard Stern in the beginning, when we really think about Howard, chicks were queefing on speakers. Oh, yeah. That was a normal thing in a Howard Stern radio show is come in, who has the loudest

queef on the speaker? They're lucky that Tiffany Haddish wasn't around back then. Oh. Because it would be over. She sticks that microphone in her pussy.

She makes a cannon sound. It doesn't even make sense. What? She's like launching midgets into the fucking atmosphere. Really? Yeah, she used to do that all the time.

She would queef on him. What? She's shameless. That lady doesn't give a fuck Is that the equivalent of a guy stool fucker? Like on comedy? Oh yeah No well there's not a lot of women that can do that

Shaw has kind of an elitist approach to comedy It's quite interesting He likes bars he says He likes jokes He doesn't like stool fucking Stool fucking if it's the right bit can be funny Really? But it has to be a real comic with a real reason to fuck that stool.

There has to be something to it. I'm trying to think if Eddie fucked that stool. I imagine. I don't remember Eddie fucking no stool, bro. See, I like Eddie. I like Richard. I like Chris Rock. Bless you.

I like Chappelle. You know what I'm saying? I like those guys that actually get on stage and say something. Yes. Like have something to say. Louis C.K. has something to say. Yeah. I like people that That actually get on stage And say something Yes Like have something And have something to say Louis C.K. Has something to say Yeah

Like I want I like people that have Something to say All that stool fucking Is like eh I want to get him on stage I think he could do it Oh you could definitely do it

I would never Disrespect a craft like that Well you wouldn't have To disrespect it You would just have to Want to do it And then try it Yeah I don't want to do it

I think we do it for fun I think we do it one time If you don't want to do it Don't do it But you could do it I tried one weekend And my first joke was like You know what I'm going to sit down Because I don't want to do it. I think we do it for fun. I think we do it one time. If you don't want to do it, don't do it, but you could do it. I tried one weekend, and my first joke was like, you know what? I'm going to sit down because I don't want anybody to ever say Charlemagne's up here trying to do stand-up.

Well, maybe don't try it, okay? Maybe don't try it. Listen, it's not for everybody, bro. You know what? Hey, my bad, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey. All the listeners, my bad.

Maybe I don't have an eye for talent. You know what I'm saying? We just did three hours. Wow. That's how we do it, bro. Let's bring it home. Wow. All the listeners My bad Maybe I don't have An eye for talent We just did three hours Wow That's how we do it bro Let's bring it home Wow Hey Andrew

Thank you for setting this up Thank you man And Brendan too Brendan Schaub Shout out to Schaub Thank you Schaub too man Shout out to Brendan Schaub

I really do appreciate What you do for comics though Thank you You know Because I've seen What you do for Andrew And Jesse May Peluso And Miss Pat

Donna O'Reilly These people I really fuck with. So thank you for that, man. My pleasure. For me, I'm honored that I have the platform to be able to help. All right. Bye, everybody. Peace.

Peace. Dude, so much fun. That's like three hours.