The Joe Rogan Experience - #1319 - Joey Diaz

Episode Date: July 1, 2019

Joey “CoCo” Diaz is a Cuban-American stand up comedian and actor. Joey also hosts his own podcast called “The Church of What’s Happening Now” available on Spotify. https://www.youtube.com/ch...annel/UCv695o3i-JmkUB7tPbtwXDA

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Joey motherfucking Diaz What's up brother? What's happening baby? I'm just on the drive up here I was thinking about all the busted assholes that are in the hospital today from the gay pride parade yesterday. Can you imagine how many guys went down there just to say hello and ended up getting fucked in the ass by mistake? They had a good time. Bro let me tell you something. That was one of the biggest turnouts.
Starting point is 00:00:24 My friend went and he said he had a fucking blast. One of my gorilla buddies said he had a blast. Blast. Gay people are great in fucking New York. All over. Everywhere. Everywhere. They're celebrating.
Starting point is 00:00:33 They can be free. They can be who they are. I loved it. Anybody who's got a problem with that is crazy. But on the dark side, let's talk about the facts here. A couple of confused little young white dudes went down there yesterday. Sure, I'll go have a drink. Yeah, some guys who just wanted to be an ally.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Ally to the gay folks. I just want, you know, I'm not gay, but I am your ally. Next thing you know, old Jed's a millionaire. What's up, brother? That's what guys have to remember. Gay dudes are dudes. All same rules apply. All same rules of scumbaggery that apply to men
Starting point is 00:01:05 apply to gay men yeah that's like three types of gay guys there's gay guys that aren't interested yeah there's gay guys that are semi-interested and they're gay guys that live to convert you it hurts my feelings as a 51 year old man that that's still a big deal that anyone cares at all it really does it does it hurts my feelings because I thought that by the time I was a fucking middle-aged 51 year old father, that we'd be done with that. People wouldn't care for the people were gay. Like of all the shit to worry about of all the shit in the world to worry about you worrying about guys who like guys, like, what do you give a fuck?
Starting point is 00:01:44 And they always go biblical they always go biblical like it's always uh if god wanted that be in the bible all that is that shit drives me crazy where i lived in my old house in north hollywood there was a gay couple across the street two dudes one was a pilot for a major airline and he was in the process and the other guy got fired from Target for being a transgender. This goes back to 2010, and they had cats. You know me, dog. I talk to the guys about cats. There was an old guy down the block that would come over and talk to me like you can't talk to him.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Old white dude, like you can't talk to him. You can't encourage that in that neighborhood. I don't want two more of those fucking assholes moving here. And I go, they're out here feeding fucking homeless cats. What's the, you know what I'm saying? Right. To this day, whenever I go to my old neighbor and I see him outside, I pull over, I talk to him, say hello.
Starting point is 00:02:40 They're just two sweet people trying to be fucking. Just being who they are. Trying to be who the fuck they are. And we make jokes. Hey, I make jokes for the whole thing. But at the end of the day, I learned the hard way. And I talked about it on stage the other night. You were there when I said that my daughter invited me to a party.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Yeah. That she went to school with a kid and his parents are transgender. And I felt kind of weird and I went. And on the way out, I looked at the kid. I seen 60 transgender people. They come from a community. Yeah. I went, and on the way out, I looked at the kid. I seen 60 transgender people. They come from a community. And I saw this little kid smiling.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I go, I'm adopted. That kid's adopted. Look what they're doing for that kid. They're making him a life. And I closed the door, and I went in. And like I said in the joke, I hugged the lead tranny. And now we're fucking tight. That's it.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I eat the food. Nice. Yeah, it doesn't matter it doesn't matter the only time it matters with me is with sports just stop with that just stop with that and we're gonna be fine but this i look there's some statistic see if this is true um that someone sent me that out of the 14 states that allow high school kids to compete as the gender that they identify with, rather than their biological gender, in those 14 states, transgender students are just dominating. Transgender male to female, they're just dominating. They're winning everything.
Starting point is 00:04:02 It's crazy. I know you have problems with the boxing. I have problems with all of the sports. All of it. When it comes to power sports. I'm not sure they've done the work here. I don't. This idea that every.
Starting point is 00:04:17 They use the excuse of outliers. And the outliers are there's some super athletes. You can get a regular girl who weighs 145 pounds or you can get you know a ronda rousey who weighs 145 pounds you know there's like there's extreme athletes that are there's people that are different right like serena williams is clearly a different level of athlete than a regular person right a regular girl who's like her weight she's just superior and i think that that is what you see with some of these transgender athletes that come over to become women they say well they're no different than uh like an ann wolf who was like a superior athlete female boxer you ever
Starting point is 00:04:59 seen wolf knock girls out no dude dude she haymakers this chick with a right hand it's like one of the most brutal one punch knockouts you've ever seen men or women perfect technique boom just way lays this girl timber she falls out cold and there's not a whole lot of women other than maybe amanda nunez but amanda nunez is doing it with them little gloves on i wonder if she would be able to do it like that with those big gloves i think she probably could because she hits that goddamn hard but you know you got to judge each sport by you know the like we see Pauly Malignaggi goes over to bare knuckle boxing he doesn't do that well in comparison to say like if somebody like you know like a really good high level striker with knockout power with the big gloves on.
Starting point is 00:05:48 If you put Deontay Wilder in little gloves, I don't imagine anybody being able to take that. He's fucking people up at a heavy weight with those big gloves. So it's a different thing. So who the fuck knows? But the idea is the outlier. The outlier the outlier like the the if you get one superior athlete and then you have them sort of commensurate with a transgender athlete like a
Starting point is 00:06:15 guy who was an athlete who became a woman that you know in his 30s and they just identify as goes through the surgery but how much benefit does he take of having testosterone flow through his body for 30 plus years? We really don't know. It doesn't mean you hate transgender people. It doesn't mean you don't love everyone. It doesn't mean you don't want everyone to live their life and be whoever they want to be with total freedom. I don't think we have males compete against males for a reason because we feel like it's more fair.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Even though it's not. It's not more fair if I'm playing basketball against Michael Jordan. That's not fair. He's better. He's a better athlete. There's people that have got to be way better than you no matter what you do. If I had trained all my life to be a better basketball player than Michael Jordan, it's not even physically possible.
Starting point is 00:07:02 So there's outliers in males. But when the outliers, when there's so many, when you see so many transgender athletes that are dominating in sports, and then when you add combat sports, which is how I got involved in this, when a woman was doing that, who was a transgender woman, just not telling anybody and saying it was a medical issue. Like, well, that's fucking crazy. We want to pretend that's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:28 We all, we know, we want to pretend that everyone's equal. You know, we want inclusiveness and we want peace. We want everyone to get along. We want equality. We want gender equality. Okay, I get it. I see where you're going. But we also have to look at reality.
Starting point is 00:07:46 The reality is there's fucking giant physical differences. These transgender athletes are dominating against women who are born a woman they have to be a woman their whole life they never have 30 years of testosterone through their throne flowing through their veins it's like doing steroids for 30 years and then stopping it's crazy that's what i think you're freaking me out you know i just smoked some reef me too man how did you get me on this subject i don't even know how the fuck oh transgender people but but as human beings i love them all i love everybody dude eddie izzard is one of my favorite guests of all time he's so interesting he's been transgender since 85 i believe he said um prefers women, likes women. He's not a gay fellow. Just likes dressing up as a woman. And extremely intelligent.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Very interesting. That special on HBO 15 years ago was mind-boggling. Say what you want to say. It was up there with the great specials. Because it had more of a one-man show tone to it, you didn't qualify it as a special but when you look at it as a whole it was a great fucking performance he's a special person and uh um he just happens to be transgender that's it kind of makes him even more interesting speaking about special people i gotta apologize to you for you for something. For me? Because I've always had this discrepancy.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Last night I went out for a little while. I got home. I had a couple numbers in me. I grabbed the fucking apple. I sat on the couch to unwind. And I put the TV on. And in front of me was the Blues Brothers. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:09:19 When was the last time I watched the Blues Brothers? I don't know. So the scene that opens up is them at the restaurant when he's trying to talk to Major D and to join the band. And there's a family next to him, a husband, a wife, and three daughters. And the guy's telling him, I'm not going to join the band. So he goes, really?
Starting point is 00:09:39 You're not going to join the band? He takes a bottle of champagne. He goes over to the table and he goes, sir, how much for the little girls? I wasn't ready for that. I just lost it, right? And he's like, Sir, how much for the little girls? And the guy's like, What?
Starting point is 00:09:56 And he goes, For the women. I want to pay you for the women. And the guy's like, Sir, Sir. He turns around. The guy comes over, breaks his balls again. He fucking turns over to the guy again. And he goes, sir, how much for the wife? How much for your wife?
Starting point is 00:10:14 Oh, I remember this scene. This is crazy. This is craziness. This would never happen today. Mouths full of food. And Dan Aykroyd continues eating in the background. Dog, and Dan, we got to talk about Dan Aykroyd, because he's been like a hemorrhoid. He's the silent.
Starting point is 00:10:31 He don't make a boo, and the guy is phenomenal. Yeah. He's still around. And if you don't believe me, watch a movie named My Girl, and then watch this, and then watch the fucking Liberace movie. He's outlasted everybody. You know, he's a serious believer in UFOs. Well, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:10:48 Everybody's got problems. Right here. Right here. When he threatens him, right here. How much for the wife? Okay? Look at the guy choking and shit. They give him champagne.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And then watch fucking Dan Aykroyd. Watch what he does. He goes, if you don't fucking, if you don't join the band, we will be in here every day for breakfast, lunch, and fucking dinner. And watch what Dan Aykroyd does at this fancy restaurant. But Joe, it doesn't
Starting point is 00:11:16 stop there. They get in the car, they drive off. Look at him. Look at him. That's craziness. This is the last of real comedic. If you're going to get into comedy or you want to be, this is comedy 101. They walk out. They get into a car, that black fucking car.
Starting point is 00:11:34 This is nonstop, Joe Rogan. Right. There's not like a hard, like there's no fluff. They get into a car. They get into traffic. The cop comes up to me and goes, there's Nazis. They're having a parade. And he goes, Bel He goes There's Nazis They're having a parade And he goes Belushi goes
Starting point is 00:11:46 Illinois Nazis I hate them more than anything He looks at Aykroyd They fucking pull over And they take the car And go right for the Nazis The Nazis have to jump off the bridge White people are clapping
Starting point is 00:11:59 And shit That they knocked them off Then they pull into a black neighborhood Who's playing the fucking guitar your boy john lee hooker down in the middle of the street don't go don't go don't go just playing the fucking guitar then after he's singing a song brothers fucking everywhere doing their business john lee hooker and belushi and akroyd are just staring them down. Then from there, they walk into a diner to get the fucking guitar player, and it's Aretha Franklin.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And Aretha Franklin can act the fucking, I'm sitting there, it's midnight, I got to go to bed. I got to get up at 6.15 with the baby. I don't give a fuck, I'm watching this. Aretha Franklin goes off. They do a dance. The black dude leaves with the white guitar player. Then where the fuck do they go?
Starting point is 00:12:46 A pawn shop with the fucking black piano player. Ray Charles. He's the pawn shop owner. He opens up the thing. He's blind. He owns a pawn shop. Look at him. He owns a pawn shop. This doesn't stop. Wow. I had to fucking
Starting point is 00:13:01 finally go to bed and then I felt bad about going to bed. They will never make a movie like this ever, ever again. Then they start dancing like it's Grease. They start dancing. Let it go, Jamie. They start dancing. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Like it's fucking Grease. Look at this. This will never happen again, Joe Rogan. Look at black people flipping in the air. On the concrete. This will never happen again, Joe Rogan. Look at black people flipping in the air. On the concrete. On the concrete. This will never happen again. These were these old shit. Who direct?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Isn't this part? Look at these two. You think Belushi gave a fuck? Wow. Look how free people were in movies. There was no superhero movie. Look at it. It cost millions to make movie. Look at this. It cost millions to make this.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Look at this movie. Look at this. Look at them dancing it out. That, you know, I forgot how goddamn fun this movie is. This movie's fun. And then the chick that died on the airplane. Wow. What's the chick that died on the airplane that was at Star Wars?
Starting point is 00:14:00 Chick that died on the airplane that was at Star Wars? The chick last year. That might be the best description of anybody ever. The reefer I had that killed her. What's that chick that died on the airplane that was at Star Wars. The chick last year. That might be the best description of anybody ever. The reefer I had that killed her. What's that chick that died on the plane? She had sleep apnea. She was doing pills on the plane. Who?
Starting point is 00:14:11 She played the actress in Star Wars. Carrie Fisher? Carrie Fisher is chasing him throughout the whole movie because he dumped her. Oh, that's right. So she's fucking throwing missiles at him and grenades. That's right. And then they go into the bar and they tell the fucking dude that they're the good old boys.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Oh my God. This is non-stop. Oh my God. Whoever wrote this, directed this, shot this, so this whole movie, they have the Nazis
Starting point is 00:14:35 are looking for them, John Candy's looking for them with the state police. Wow. That's old Chicago. This is wild, man. It's just what the folks who are just listening, just says the Blues Brothers 1980 shake a tail feather scene,
Starting point is 00:14:52 four of nine on movie clips. How does that work? Are they allowed to show these? Yeah, they've made a deal with them because this links also to the... If you want to watch it, you can pay right here to rent it and all that stuff. Look at this stuff. You know what I mean? I fully support buying this movie.
Starting point is 00:15:12 You're looking at me going, Joey, it's a comedy. Why are they dead? Look at the... It just adds to the brilliance. They look like they're having a good time. Oh, if they're not snorting blow, they're not doing anything, okay? Now, was it this movie where he would walk off the set and just knock on people's door? One of those movies, bro, just fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:15:32 When they would say, cut, you got, you know, A-team, go sit down. Belushi was so fucked up from the night before. He would just wander off into a neighborhood, just knock on somebody's door and go, you mind if I crash on your couch? No. Yeah, bro. They had to go looking for him in neighborhoods and shit. He would just find people and ask to sleep on their couch?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Joe Rogan, what door could you knock on? Look. The Blues Brothers mayhem. John Belushi fell asleep in a stranger's house. Dan Aykroyd proposed to Carrie's face. This is crazy. This was this. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Caddy Shack. You know, when they shot Caddy Shack, they shot it in Florida. I heard when Paramount went down there, they fucking went nuts. They were like, dog. They found everybody snorting coke. Rodney was throwing a party. They couldn't, you know, this is a different type of movie. These people are having fun.
Starting point is 00:16:19 That's the difference. They're having fun on that set. There's probably alcohol. The director's drinking. You know, he's keeping everybody alive. many extras were dancing fucking hundreds they were all in tune and it was like everybody loved that movie that's one of the rare movies with a musical scene that fucking everybody loved the blues brothers right now the blues brothers started on saturday night live like that was a sketch i i guess so yeah yeah. Dan Aykroyd wrote it.
Starting point is 00:16:47 John Landis directed it. They co-wrote it together. Aykroyd's crazy into UFOs. He's one of the main celebrities they pull up when people start talking about UFO real believers. He's done little clips where he narrates things, UFO shows and shit. He fucking believes. Well Well didn't they just release That there's even more belief now About UFOs
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah it's fun I don't know if it's real But it's fun That's how I feel Doug I did a podcast With Jim Florentine And I explained to Jim Florentine That what people don't know
Starting point is 00:17:23 Is that Hudson County, New Jersey Northern New Jersey, northern New Jersey is the number one place in the country where they have the most UFO sightings. Really? Northern New Jersey? Look it up, Jamie, if you get a minute, please, not to be rude. But isn't that like near a couple airports? No.
Starting point is 00:17:38 It's closer to like when you live in New York City and you look up the Hudson River, they say that people go on their balcony, they're drinking coffee, they talk on the phone, and they'll see a little flying saucer go by. Brilliant. And I know for a fact that in 1976- Little one? Whatever the fuck they are. I know for a fact that in 1975 and 1976, you could check me out on this, a UFO landed in Hudson County Park.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I was a kid, and the next day the feds locked off the park. They had yellow tape. They had samples. Go look it up, dog. There's a UFO. You see that? That's called, North Bergen is where I'm from. That's called, I forget what it's called,
Starting point is 00:18:18 but it's a circular building. So they did so much coke in there in the 80s, they called it the grinder. That's what they called it because it was shaped like the Stonehenge. I have a couple friends that lived there. People that lived in that building have seen UFOs for
Starting point is 00:18:33 fucking years. And if you go to YouTube, there's an actual North Hudson Park UFO. They dug up, they came out, there's a liquor store, and the liquor store guy says, you seen the lights. You heard like the organ music that they play. They landed.
Starting point is 00:18:50 A couple of Martians got out and took samples and got back in the thing and took off. There's a YouTube thing. There's a history channel special about it. And I still remember being a young kid. Did you find anything, Jamie? Not given. That was what's popping up, all that stuff about that building.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Is there anything that says a UFO landed? That's the story I'm reading right now is what he's saying, yeah. And witnesses, you know, it's not just one guy that says there's only no UFO. It's people who got knocked on the door
Starting point is 00:19:19 and said, did you see anything at 11, 10 at night? And they said, you know what? There were lights flashing outside. They contacted police departments to see if there was anything. They went full. Then the FBI came in, circled the park. It was by the Little League Field in Hudson County. But it is, you know, like you'd think it was Area 51.
Starting point is 00:19:39 You'd think it was close to northern Las Vegas. The number one place to see UFOs is northern New Jersey. They even made a reference to it in The Sopranos. When he said something, he goes, what are you talking about? Last week you said you seen a UFO in Hackensack. Because that's where they're at. Hackensack, Moonocky. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:59 All those. You ever go to Moonocky, New Jersey? A lot of ugly people. A lot of people with big heads. The only good thing in Moonocky, New Jersey is fucking Segovia, a Spanish restaurant. It's been there since 19-fucking-Slemenski. I don't know. But that's the only good thing about Munaki.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I think those people in Munaki have been abducted. There you go. And they put them back as big-headed motherfuckers. I did a gig there a couple times. Oh, yeah. There used to be like a bar. There's a bar that did something in Munaki. Was that a Bob Gonzo gig? Yes, outside of the Seacockers. I did a gig there a couple times. Oh, yeah. There used to be like a bar. There's a bar that did something. Was that a Bob Gonzo gig?
Starting point is 00:20:27 Yes, outside the Seacockers. Was it? Yeah, it's outside. No, no, no. I think Bob is more down to shore and stuff. Well, he had gigs all over the place. He had gigs all over, Bob. How I met Bob was he did a gig in Romano's Italian restaurant in my hometown.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And my buddy's like, hey, aren't you a comedian? Let's take you up there. And we went up there, and Bob's like, I don't know him. He said, I don't know him. And the next thing Bob came up to me, he's like, I got to put you up because my friend is threatening me. So Bob put me up and we've become friends ever since. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I think I follow him on Facebook. We have a chat from time to time on Facebook. But yeah, for you UFO motherfuckers, look into northern New Jersey. That's the fucking mother load of them that's interesting i had read that before but i kind of there you go 51 51 ufo sightings in 2018 i as a you get biased because the the story is always some person in the woods and they get abducted they see a ufo in some strange town the middle
Starting point is 00:21:25 of nowhere the aliens land abduct people you always think about it being a rural thing but if i was an alien of course i'd go to new york city of course i'd go to new jersey what what the fuck why wouldn't you you want to go see the craziest thing we have you got like seven million people stuffed together on a fucking tiny island in comparison to the rest of the planet. Stuff stacked on top of each other. Awesome, amazing buildings. All these lights at Times Square. Look at all these people mowing around, traveling over these bridges to get to this one hub, this one hive of humanity.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Of course, if I was an alien, I would check that out. Why would I look at a barn? You know what I mean? You used to have a joke that the United States is the Tijuana. Of outer space. Of outer space. They're like, what are we doing this weekend? We're going to fucking.
Starting point is 00:22:12 They come down when they're fucked up and they want to see a show. They want to see a show. That was the whole bit is that I think aliens come here when they're high. They just get fucked up. They're like, come on, let's go check out the monkeys. Let's go, dude. Come on, let's abduct a couple of them have a good time let's go see the monkey people i never saw a fucking ufo or i want to i never have though i want to see it land and i want to see one of those green dudes get out so i think i i thought i saw some shit when i was a kid but as i got older i thought that was like a fighter jet or something.
Starting point is 00:22:47 That's what that was. Like there was something. God, it's a real sketchy memory. It's one of those memories that's like barely active. But I remember thinking for like a day or two when I was a little kid, maybe I saw a UFO. But I think I was trying to convince myself of it. You know, I was bored. But I think it was a jet.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I think it was something something fast and unusual have you ever seen one of those stealth bombers that looks like a fucking ufo you ever seen one of those things in the sky no yes it looks like a star wars like when you go to like a blue angel fucking thing those players no those are like i think those are fa18s that's what i think it is. I think that's what that is. I flew in one of those. I had a bit about that, too.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yeah, you hold on to the hand. You hook. You either hold on to your handle if you're steering the plane, or you hold on to your straps if you're a passenger. I was in the passenger seat, so I grabbed ahold of my straps. And you have to go like this. Hoot, hoot, hoot, hoot. And you have to force blood into your brain to stay awake.
Starting point is 00:23:48 That's how much G-force you're going through. It's insane. Force blood into your brain to stay awake. See, that's one of those stealth bombers. I saw one of those in the air over, I guess it's Edwards Air Force Base. Is that what the one it is? Is Edwards the one that's out near Palmdale?
Starting point is 00:24:06 I think that's it. Because we used to film Fear Factor in Palmdale, and we saw that thing fly overhead like that. Look at that thing. Tell me that doesn't look like it's from another planet. When you're on the ground and you see that fly overhead, you're like, what the fuck is that? So I think that's responsible for a bunch of the things that people saw i think it's military
Starting point is 00:24:27 crafts can i ask you a question on that article you pulled up to 51 sightings what type of sightings do you look at this fucking thing what is considered what is considered a sighting well the thing is like you just see shit but how do you know if... What are you doing, Jim? These are the sightings. Okay, but go back to that video. Look at that thing. I mean, come on. If you're just sitting on the ground and you saw that, you're like, They're coming! The aliens are coming! That does not look like it's from this world.
Starting point is 00:24:56 That thing is madness. Especially with those two guys next to him. God, it's fucking beautiful, though. Like, what an amazing design. That thing flying through. It looks like something on a keyboard. You know, it looks like a symbol on a keyboard. And it's just flying perfectly through the air. That looks like the future.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I mean, that really does look like it's from another world. I would imagine, like, little blue dudes with black eyes talking to each other in that thing. Going through fucking wormholes and shit. I i mean that's what that thing looks like and what's the what's the thing that they're going to have a hundred years from now just imagine that yeah i just want to know what the what the logistics is for it to be considered a legitimate a legitimate sighting legitimate sighting. Legitimate sighting? Legitimate sighting. It just means that someone saw it. You know, you don't, like, if you're a lawyer, okay, and you see something, and then you convince yourself
Starting point is 00:25:51 that what you saw was something extraordinary, and you have the feeling that you're looking at something from another world. But if it's just some drone or some military vehicle, and then you look at it, and then you convince yourself, then it becomes a bigger and bigger deal in your head. That's a problem with people. It doesn't mean that everybody
Starting point is 00:26:08 that sees something is seeing that. People are kind of full of shit. Well, let's say you see, let's say there's a 1-800-CALL-MARTIAN. All right? I see a fucking thing. I call that thing.
Starting point is 00:26:18 1-800-CALL-MARTIAN. Yeah, call Martian. Okay, whatever the fuck. Okay. 1-800-MARTIAN. Right. The phone won't stop ringing. Okay? The phone won't stop ringing, okay? The phone won't stop ringing.
Starting point is 00:26:27 It will never stop ringing. It will never stop ringing. There'll be people talking to Martians. My concern is when do they consider it a credible? What does it take for it to be credible? For me, for it to be credible, I got to see the motherfucker land and get out. My take is usually military guys. When you have military fighter pilots, that's an extraordinary human.
Starting point is 00:26:50 If you can be one of those guys that flies one of those B-2s, for them to trust you with that billion-dollar fucking spaceship, dude, you've got to be an exceptional human. There's no room for someone who's full of shit. You're going to be a top flight fighter pilot you're gonna fly around with gunfights in the sky because that's what they do they have gunfights in the fucking sky those guys are exceptional human beings so when they see something that's when i listen for sure everybody else i'm not not that I wouldn't listen, but I don't know. You might be crazy. And you might be crazy even if you're in the military.
Starting point is 00:27:29 You might be crazy if you're a fighter pilot. It's 100% possible. So those fighter pilots and all those Air Force pilots that do test runs or whatever, they say that they see things? There's a bunch of sightings. Not only a bunch of sightings, there's a bunch of sightings from these really credible guys. What is this? Fleet of UFOs followed U.S. aircraft Navy pilot says. Yeah, this is what I'm talking about. a bunch of sightings is a bunch of sightings from these really credible guys what is this fleet of ufos followed u.s aircraft navy pilot says yeah this is what i'm talking about see these guys
Starting point is 00:27:50 that are talking about these things these aren't uh guys with uh histories of embellishing things there's i mean they have this whatever that is is that radar what are they looking at is that infrared like what is that screen that they're looking for? Does it say what kind of image it is? Because it's like a weird look. It's not like a photograph, right? It's like a weird computer image. Because it's detecting it, right? With some piece of equipment, right?
Starting point is 00:28:19 Isn't it? Like tracking it on radar or something like that? I know what you're saying because I feel like I've heard that description of it too but this this article just says it's video of two aerial encounters that's tremendous but that video doesn't look very clear why isn't it clear my phone does a better job than that shit they don't have very good cameras on those or i mean they have good kind of mean they don't have good ones but like in order to catch movement at that high speed up there yada yada all. Oh, so it would require some exceptional gear. I think.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And it could have also been at night. I don't know what time of day it was. So convenient. So convenient that they never have a clear picture. That drives me fucking crazy. It drives me fucking crazy. Because if it is real, I want it to be real, honestly. I really do.
Starting point is 00:29:05 But when I look at it, I go, God damn, so many people are so crazy and so many people are so full of shit. You personally believe, and so do I, that there's other galaxies out there. There has to be. Well, there are definitely other galaxies, other civilizations. Other civilizations. Yeah. Some form somewhere. Out of the nine planets, there's got to be something.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I don't know what i'm not gonna sit here and tell you what they're called or whatever but there has to be something at this point you have to believe that the the universe is too big it's just too big to discount to say nope i doubt it like that's so crazy to say it's because we haven't seen it yet it's so big there's the explanation okay of what he caught and what he said that though tracking equipment radar and infrared cameras on his aircraft detected ufos both times he was unable to capture them on his helmet camera okay so maybe he couldn't look at it get it and good vision or whatever maybe yeah you know or that's a good reason why i would imagine as fast as those goddamn things are going it must be really hard to get a camera to be able to constantly focus in and out.
Starting point is 00:30:10 That's interesting. He says that Lieutenant Ryan Grimes. Graves? Graves, whatever. A squadron of UFOs followed his Navy strike group up and down the eastern coast of the U.S. for months. That's, I'm telling you, that little fucking, I read something about the Hudson River, that all those people that live across the Hudson River, whether on the Weehawken Edgewater side or the west side of Manhattan,
Starting point is 00:30:36 those are where the people on their balconies see all that shit. Look at this shit. We did have issues with them when we went to the Middle East, Lieutenant Graves said. Imagine them following the war imagine if you were there were aliens and they came down to follow the war so they see the war going on in afghanistan come down and they're checking it out just to go on the cynical side of this they're not necessarily saying they are an alien ship they're saying it's a ufo so it's something they're not sure of what if it's some sort of awesome drone that some middle eastern company has and it can just follow shit or possible faster or something sure that would be
Starting point is 00:31:14 the more likely explanation right terrestrial would be more likely that someone has advanced shit we know they have advanced shit i mean we know they have incredible drones. I mean, the stuff that they can do. They got drones. That green beret is a seal. You put razor blades on them, and they slit your fucking throat when you're driving. Whoa. That's how good the technology is on those drones. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I wouldn't be shocked if they could do all kinds of things. You could be standing there, and they could take the drone to just come down. Yeah. Fuck, and they put razor blades on them or some shit. Well, you could totally see someone having a small drone, like a small thing, like the size of a cheeseburger, that has poison in it,
Starting point is 00:32:01 and you just slam it into somebody. I could see that. There's. But you're seeing. When you're seeing stuff that's flying around the sky. Most likely is made by a person. Because people make stuff. And people know how to make stuff that flies around the sky.
Starting point is 00:32:17 But then when you get to shit that like defies physics. Like some of the things these fighter pilots see. That's when you got to go. Wait a minute. You see these extraordinary feats of traversing distances like they can get from one place to another place so fast it looks like they disappear this is something they all talk about they all talk about the insane speed which these things can go they could just change angles they can just go and then take a hard right angle turn they can do stuff that nothing that we know how to make can do that's where it
Starting point is 00:32:52 gets to be like whoa like nothing it's not like it's like oh that's like a fighter jet but like really fast you know i'm saying it's like an alien car oh it's like a car but it's way faster like it you know it's an alien car but this is not like anything that we make these fucking things they fly this way they say flat like a like a plate hovering over the ground or but when they go to fly when they go to take off they flip up sideways and they have like the bottom of the spaceship is pointing towards where it wants to go and it does something to space and time make some sort of fucking magnetic gravity connection insert big spooky words whatever they
Starting point is 00:33:32 know they don't know how the fuck it does it right this thing can go like insane distances and insanely small amounts of time then when they all report the same kind of behavior of these so many of these reports are like that they're talking about this thing that goes insanely fast turns on its side it looks like a tic-tac it looks like a saucer it looks like they're trying to figure out what the fuck the shape is because it's moving so goddamn fast but it's doing stuff that nothing we know how to make and do i don't know if it's from another planet it might be from here but it's exciting it's exciting shit i want it to be from another planet that's what i want like unbiased like what i my honest what i what i would love it just be
Starting point is 00:34:11 completely honest i would love it if it was aliens but if it was people i'd be even more scared because like god damn people can do that people can do that and no one knew. If you can imagine a person who can make a spaceship that defies all of the rules that we know about travel, about air travel. If they can make something that defies all that shit and somehow or another keep the whole development and production of it a secret and then have this thing and take it off and no one knows how the fuck they did it that's almost more impressive than aliens because that's what these things are doing is so if these are these pilots are accurately reading what's happening and they're telling the truth the thing that's remarkable is their stories are very consistent there's a lot of very similar stories from different people that they make a living flying super fast warships.
Starting point is 00:35:12 They see things. They know what the fuck they're looking at. They see something they don't know. They're like, what in the fuck is that? When they see something like that, that freaks me out. That's when it gets me. Because when some fucking kid kids ride his bike to school and he looks up and he sees a ufo okay maybe it did happen maybe it did happen maybe
Starting point is 00:35:30 the kids being 100 honest or maybe he was bored maybe he was bored and decided to make up a crazy story and stuck with it and then after a while telling that maybe he believed in himself that happens too people see things they don't know what they're seeing they decide that it's a different thing i've said this before but it's a true story when i was in in alberta there's wolves there and i thought i saw a wolf for like a whole second it was a squirrel it's a fucking squirrel but i saw gray fur movement wolf squirrel like if you're dumb or if you're compromised or if you're maybe you're a little drunk maybe a little tired you know maybe you just saw something that looked really weird because of you know whatever weather conditions that are affecting some part of the world you live in there's things called ball lightning flies through the air you know it's uh it looks
Starting point is 00:36:23 like a ufo you ever see that shit it's like a real natural phenomenon somebody might see something like that and then add a bunch of other shit to it and that's where you get a lot of these stories you get like natural phenomenon and then people adding a bunch of shit to things but then on top of that you have credible stories and you can't throw out any of them like you you look at all these things, you can't decide, just because there's a bunch of crackpot stories about UFOs, that the ones by legitimate fighter pilots, that those aren't real. You can't look at it that way. It's crazy to look at it that way.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Because it's more likely there's something out there than there isn't something out there. It's way more likely. When I was a kid and that happened in Hudson County Park, I wrote it off. I didn't even pay attention. I remember riding my bike up there, seeing the fed tape and seeing people with those orange protective suits on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:16 And I was like, these people are fucking out of my mind. Then one night I got high, five or six years ago, and I saw it. Somebody had posted on Facebook or YouTube, and I read more and more into it. And I discounted it until I read the accounts of the 28 people. In that building, the liquor store, there was a guy who had just got dropped off a bus from New York. Buses drop you off there from New York. The bus driver said there was a flash. He couldn't, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:49 There were just so many people with stories that, you know, they didn't see a fucking guy get out. Only three people saw people get out. Everybody else discounted the lights and the noise and the other bullshit that went with it. I would have shit my fucking pants if I lived in that building and saw three little Martians get out. Or it could just be fucking, who knows? Who gives a fuck?
Starting point is 00:38:14 I just wanted to tell you that that's where. People can get freaked out. And they can think all kinds of things that didn't really happen. One night I was on acid. I thought it was a fucking. I thought the FBI was out there with dogs. The next day it was fucking a fire hydrant. I dumped an ounce of coke down the toilet.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Oh, my God. Because I hallucinated. Because when you're doing coke for more than fucking 10 hours, you start hallucinating. I started hallucinating. I thought it was fucking dogs and it was a fire hydrant. You know how stupid I felt the next day? Pretty fucking stupid. Pretty fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I sat there and I went over and petted the hydrant. You fuck. You fuck. This is the problem with any story, like all these fucking UFO stories. It's people's memory. Memory's not that good. It's just not that good it's not that good it's too hard to figure out what it actually looked like after you saw it like you see something crazy like a year ago and then you try to describe it it's too hard to describe like you barely remember it your
Starting point is 00:39:19 your version of it is a rehashed version that you keep repeating to yourself. If you saw something, like say if you were hiking and you saw a wolf, right? If you saw that wolf, when you try to describe that moment you saw that wolf years later, what are you actually seeing when you're going into your memory? How accurate is it? We're always lying about how accurate our memory is. It's not that good like if you if you did see a wolf which is an extraordinary moment right you're in the fucking forest you're like it's a fucking wolf that's a wolf and you see a real wolf looking down on you a wild motherfucker in the woods of canada just looking at you staring at you on a trail like that's an extraordinary moment but if you try to recount that in your mind 10 years later what do you actually see how much do you actually see
Starting point is 00:40:11 you see this blurry weird fucking misty version and you've got some words that fall into place that can describe it but how accurate is your fucking memory it's terrible how accurate is your fucking memory? It's terrible. How accurate is your memory? It's good with statistics. Okay. Like, I can tell you about fights. I can tell you what year someone fought. I can tell you how this guy won and how he beat this many guys with a triangle. And I remember things.
Starting point is 00:40:38 But if I actually have to remember what it actually looked like in my head, I can't really pull that up. I barely can pull it up. I see it, I'll recognize it again. You know? Like you show me Joe Schilling knocking out Melvin Manhoef in Bellator. I watched that KO so many times. A wild, crazy slugfest.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And if I see it, I'm watching it happen in a video, I remember it. Yep, this is how it goes. Here it goes. Boom! He KOs him. But if I had to just pull that out of my brain right now it's not good do you know what i'm saying like if i had to like if i have to like close my eyes and pretend i saw mike tyson knock out
Starting point is 00:41:17 michael spinks i kind of can see blue flashes i can kind of remember weird little parts of it. You know, I remember the final right hand. Boom! It just sends him flying through the ropes. It was chaos. It was just like, he's the best ever. But if I had to, like, play it back in my head, it wouldn't be nearly as good as a video of it. How is the memory in your life?
Starting point is 00:41:39 How are the memories of your life? Do you remember being three? No. Do you remember being five? Barely. Barely. I was fucking suffering. Like, not suffering, but I was trying to think of my dad. My dad died when I was three.
Starting point is 00:41:54 And I have two memories with him. I have two memories that I can look you in the eye. I don't remember what he was wearing or what shoes he was wearing, but I still remember driving from the Lincoln Tunnel from New York to Jersey and him put me on my lap, no seatbelt, and me holding on to the steering wheel. Wow.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And I still remember him and my mom having a discussion and him taking me with him. That's it. I don't remember nothing else. Wow. You know, you try to go back on your memory. Then you start to write a little bit, and your memory gets better. Yeah, but even when your memory gets better, the problem is, with my memory, I'm always wondering how much of this is accurate. You know, how much of it was I really paying attention during the moment?
Starting point is 00:42:45 of it was i really paying attention during the moment and really being uh like like if you have a biased perspective of something that's happening and then you have a memory of it how much does your memory of the bias perspective how much does your memory and the bias perspective shape what you think happened you could actually kind of twist the past in your head if you're not careful and you start thinking about things that didn't really necessarily happen the way they like if you get i get fucked over at work you know i had to come and my fucking pension and all this and then you you look at it from that way wow this guy worked for an evil company that fucked him over or you go to the employers and some of the other people he worked with he go no no that guy was a fucking asshole he made life at work hell nobody wanted him around he didn't get fucked over he was so negative nobody wanted to be with him in
Starting point is 00:43:30 the office we had to get rid of him like you have to look at it from their point too you don't know so the actual memory of it for that guy might be that he got fucked over by this evil company but the memory of the other people is a completely different experience the memory of the other people is this guy was annoying to work with oh and they're both you know it's both i mean who the fuck knows who's who's right but my memory is good at some places and completely bad in others like right now my memory of 30 years ago is spot on. I can tell you conversations we had. Don't ask me what we did a year ago. Like I'll sit here and go, what did I do last Fourth of July? I have no fucking idea.
Starting point is 00:44:13 But I went home. When I went home for three weeks, I went to dinner with a friend of mine. And then way back, I had him in tears telling him about the night his arm got broken. You know, he looked me, legit me in the face and he goes, Joey, I forgot I broke my arm. It's amazing. You remember. How the fuck do you remember? And I go, Doug, it was one of the best
Starting point is 00:44:33 nights of my life. I never laughed so hard. He drove his car at my friend. You know how people go, how can they drive at you? He didn't stop in time. And he tapped my friend. My friend went down, who's hilarious as it is. He got up. He went to take a swing at this guy, and the guy put his arm up.
Starting point is 00:44:52 And when he hit, he broke his arm with the punch by absorbing the punch. And he had to wear a cast, and we tortured him, and my friend kept threatening to sue him. And when I was telling him this, his face was red. He had to take his napkin down and he was banging the table. He goes, Cokes, I just remembered the broken fucking arm. You know, he's my age. He goes, I forgot all about my broken fucking arm. You know, before you came in, Jamie and I were talking about Achilles tendons. And I remember the time ripping, pulling a hamstring,
Starting point is 00:45:26 like having to go to the hospital when I was 15 and having the fucking doctor do something, and it was bruised. Blood was running from my ass to the top of my leg. It was fucking horrible. I just ripped a hamstring. We were talking about, you know, like just that, you know. And then there's
Starting point is 00:45:45 a theory that there's times like you go back to Newark. I don't know if there's a fight. Are you going to Newark? No, I'm not working that one. Let's pretend you went back to Newark and you went to see where your grandpa lived and you saw a corner store that was still there. This is interesting.
Starting point is 00:46:02 And you go into that corner store and maybe you get a bag of wise potato chips maybe you get a bun that you went there and got they say by tasting that bun and it takes you back it opens up all those fucking memories why eating something from the area something something it's like sometimes a song will trigger something right fucking songs really yeah for sure that's why it's important sometimes when you will trigger something. Right. Fucking songs really trigger you. Yeah, for sure. That's why it's important sometimes when you watch a movie or a TV show to have a soundtrack.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Because we have a soundtrack. We all have a soundtrack of our lives. A couple of years ago, I was on a podcast, and we were talking about something Bon Jovi, and you were like, oh, I remember giving some chick a stab and listening to Bon Jovi. Something like that. You know what I'm saying? You'll see. You'll even say it.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I fucked Mary Lou Smith in the ass listening to this song. Oh, Jesus. It just brings you back. It just brings you back. But they say that. It's funny. Your examples of bringing it back. Yeah, it was me and my best friends.
Starting point is 00:46:59 We were by the lake. No. Banging some Mary Lou in the ass. Most guys will hear a song. They'll Banging some. That's what you're. Listen. Most guys will hear a song. They'll be by themselves. They'll be by your wife and your kids. You'll hear Never Say Goodbye to Bon Jovi. And you'll think of the night that drunk midget chick sucked your dick behind the church.
Starting point is 00:47:17 And you never told nobody. It just comes back. It comes back to haunt you for a minute you know like shit like that always oh
Starting point is 00:47:28 that was a song I got sentenced in prison to like whatever I don't fucking know like when I got locked up
Starting point is 00:47:34 the big album was Appetite for Destruction the big when I got locked up the big album was for
Starting point is 00:47:41 regular people Appetite for Destruction for the brothers it was Don't Be Cruel by Bobby Brown. That album he made solo when he split from New Edition. So every time I hear Don't Be Cruel, the other one, every time I hear especially that fucking Mr. Brownstone,
Starting point is 00:47:58 every time I hear Mr. Brownstone, I want to crash the car because all the bikers would shoot heroin to that song. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's time for Mr. Brownstone. That's all they would talk about. So every time I hear those two albums, I fucking think about being locked up. And what's on there? Ever since Guns N' Roses went on tour, that's all you hear on the radio now.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Put the radio on for five minutes. Every day you hear November Rain, Welcome to the Jungle, because that's it. That's it. Right. Every time I hear those jams, I think about that stupidity. That's fun. Welcome to the jungle was mine. But there's a lot of people who will say to you, like, oh, you know, I make love.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I used to make love to my girlfriend listening to that album, you know, whatever. But there's some people who are animals and say, you know. Yeah, the truth. I used to get my dick sucked listening to that when I was 14. Yeah, music, more than anything, is like an imprint of the time of your life when you saw it.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Like, if you go back and think about, like, for me, it was Stripes with Bill Murray. I think I was, I had to be a teenager. What year did Stripes come out? What year was that? 81. 81.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Perfect. So I was 14 years old. That was... I was in ninth grade. I was a freshman in high school. So that... When I think about that movie, like that was the epic movie of our time when I was a kid. It was like that was... I think about that movie, that was the epic movie of our time when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I think about that time of the year or that time of my life. You think about who you were. It brings you back to a weird place. It helps. It enhances the memory. Fucking tremendous. That was a great movie, man. That was such a funny movie.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Think about the line when he asked the fat dude why he joined the service. And the guy goes, I want to lose a couple pounds. Look at him. Look at John Candy. John Candy was amazing. Amazing in this. It's a fucking great movie, man. It was just so good at the time.
Starting point is 00:50:00 You had a smile on your face through the whole movie. Even the moments of the movie that weren't hilarious when they're setting things up, it was so well done. You just smiled all the time. Are you guys looking at this cast? You got the guy from Beverly Hills Cop. You got Zito from Miami Vice. You got fucking Harold Ramis, who was a blessing in my life.
Starting point is 00:50:22 He legitimized me when I did his movie. The movie was terrible, but he was phenomenal comedy-wise. That's awesome. I don't know what this brother went on to do, but this is fucking great comedy. Look at Bill Murray. I know, man.
Starting point is 00:50:36 This is the height of Bill Murray. Now, you guys got to remember, we were just talking about another great movie a couple minutes ago. Didn't these both come out the same year? Did they? Yeah. 81, 80.
Starting point is 00:50:49 This is the shit we were going through. This is why we talk about movies and music. It's not that we're all men fucking being nostalgic. I'm telling you the truth. They were making great movies at this time. There was a few great movies yeah a few there was a few yeah i mean i mean quite a few i should say this planes trains and automobiles when did that come out 83 82 84 you know you got it the comedy lessons we were getting those years 87 well like
Starting point is 00:51:23 let's think of this like just cinematically what year did the Godfather come out 73 73 so to Exorcist 73 the mechanic 73 it was just too much hmm just those three movies right there the Godfather the mechanic and the Exorcist yeah And if you look at who was up for an Academy Award in 73, you'll fucking die. You'll die. You'll go, how the fuck can they pick a winner there? It's also,
Starting point is 00:51:53 imagine the stark contrast between that and 53. Like, in 1953, the movies were kind of corny. You know? Even if they were good, they were kind of corny. You know? And if you go any earlier than that, you ever try to watch King Kong? You ever watch?
Starting point is 00:52:08 I watched it with my kids, and wife wasn't home, and they were scared. They're like, I don't want to watch a scary movie. I go, we're going to laugh at a silly scary movie. And they're like, really? I go, you got to trust me. This movie was from so long ago that what they thought is scary, you're going to think is silly. And they're like, are you serious?
Starting point is 00:52:28 Because they go, okay, but if we get too scared, just shut it off, right? I go, I'll definitely shut it off. They were like, I think seven and five at the time. This fucking movie, it's so fake looking. When the gorilla comes out, they thought it was hilarious. And then because we talked about it being funny, then they were just laughing hysterically and cracking all these jokes about what that thing looked
Starting point is 00:52:48 like. That it looked like, my youngest daughter said it looked like someone was moving poop around. That it looked like it was made out of poop. Because it's all clay. It looks so dumb. But you know, back then that was as good as it got. Well, look at the new Godzilla.
Starting point is 00:53:04 The new Godzilla's got awful. People leave them with a fucking headache. Are they? Yeah. Look at the old Godzilla. It's a comedy. It is? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:53:13 You see those poor little Japanese people. Look at this, though. Yeah. Look at this. Look how fake this looks. It's crazy. But this must have been huge back then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Look at these guys. It's like, yeah, buddy, you're not in a plane. It's like so fake looking. You know Look at these guys like, yeah, buddy, you're not in a plane. It's like so fake looking. These guys flying around. And look how bad the gorilla looks. It's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:36 But at the time, this was unbelievable. This was amazing. So if you go from this to like Apocalypse Now, the jump in terms of like how impactful it is and how much they nailed it like this is it's a fun movie man don't get me wrong i have a king kong poster on my wall at my house i love the movie i love this movie i have a movie poster from the night and i'd much rather see the old godzillas godzilla versus mortara got villains versus the smog monster godzilla just to see
Starting point is 00:54:08 what japanese people were doing yeah they had the string on them they would do wide shots so they would show the chinese people running and then they would just have a single shot of godzilla moving through the air you see look at that at that. They're Japanese. Japanese. Look how dope he looks. Like, even when it's lit up, that is fucking fun, man. That's fun. Look, he's going through the fucking electric. Godzilla doesn't give a fuck. They're shooting him.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Fuck you. See, now, they can't show you a behind shot of the Japanese shooting Godzilla because there's really no God. They just shoot into a wall. It's completely separate. This is like a real clay model. If you look at it. He's really not 60 feet.
Starting point is 00:54:51 It's maybe fucking 8 inches or something. No, this is not a model. These are men in suits. This is the difference between King Kong and Godzilla. No shit. Yes. These are men in suits. And it was really complicated.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And these guys had to be really strong. Because they're carrying around this gigantic rubber suit. And it's heavy as fuck and hot as fuck. So the reason why it moves so fluid, what the Japanese did that was brilliant, was they had men and they put men in these monster suits. Look at the fucking smoke coming out of his mouth. Yeah, go and Google the men who wore the Godzilla suit. It's actually pretty fucking cool. It's not easy to do.
Starting point is 00:55:26 These guys had to walk around and have these fight scenes and shit in these big giant suits. That wasn't animation. That's a dude in there. Isn't that crazy? And that's what it really looked like in terms of height-wise.
Starting point is 00:55:40 It was like the size of a person. See that guy go back a bit? You see that guy getting out of it? Right there. That's what the dude looked like who was inside of it. It was like the size of a person. See, that guy go back a bit. You see that guy getting out of it? Right there. That's what the dude looked like who was inside of it. He was wearing their... I always thought it was like a clay model. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:55:52 King Kong is a clay model. King Kong was Claymation from Ray Harryhusen. That's how I got onto the subject with them. I was telling them about... They love that monsters inc show and harry hewson is one of the characters or something about harry hewson is in the movie i said huh i go do you guys know who that is and they go no i said that is the guy who of course they didn't know who it is what the fuck am i talking about but i said that's the guy who was
Starting point is 00:56:19 one of the original monster animators for movies like King Kong. He did all that claymation stuff. And back then, I mean, that was the state of the art. You got to think, 1930-something. I was like, King Kong was what, 33? 33. When was Godzilla? That was later.
Starting point is 00:56:38 That was post-World War II. Yeah. What is it? I'm sorry. 54. 54. Jesus. Post-World War II was Godzilla. Godzilla was after we, we, I shouldn't say we, somebody from the United States dropped
Starting point is 00:56:49 bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki when they used nuclear weapons. The idea was that and all the nuclear tests that they had done in the water, there was no real understanding of what the fuck was going to happen. And so the science fiction version of that would be that all that radiation would create some super monster. Fucking brilliant. Yeah, man, the Japanese were— Brilliant? No, I gotta give it to them.
Starting point is 00:57:08 They were dealing with radiation poisoning and death on an unbelievable scale. I mean, hundreds of thousands of people wiped out instantly from atomic bombs. I mean, and so just the sheer force of the power of those things, you couldn't even imagine that there could be anything that could do that just one thing that falls out of an airplane that can do that well what else can it do you know what happens if it gets in the water what is it how's this shit gonna affect fish how's it gonna affect you know who knows so the the science fiction version was always awesome like a god Godzilla would come.
Starting point is 00:57:46 That's what the new one's about too, right? The new one is the same kind of thing, like a dinosaur got zapped. I believe the new one was all the other dinosaurs came back and they had to reawaken Godzilla because he's the only thing that can fight him. Oh, God. Oh, God. So it's a superhero monster movie? He's a superhero? Godzilla's a superhero now?
Starting point is 00:58:04 Bring him back. He's a good guy in this one. Oh, no, he's not a good guy. At the end of the last one, everyone complained because there's this weird winky scene where Godzilla and the main guy looked at each other in the eye and were like, same team, bro. You know who the real Godzilla is, man? The real Godzilla is Cersei. Not Cersei.
Starting point is 00:58:19 What the fuck's her name? The dragon. Mother of Dragons dragon in the Game of Thrones that fucked up that city at the end. That's a real horrific idea of a fire-breathing lizard. But Godzilla was always adorable. Didn't really go after people. Even the early Supermans, the first six episodes, you could see the string. Really? Check it out. That's hilarious. the black and white the suspended pilot maybe the pilot in the first three episodes they figured
Starting point is 00:58:52 out how he could do it you could see his train it's a weird the godzilla story is a weird story right because it's not like godzilla goes on a killing spree he just goes through tokyo and just starts lighting every building on fire. He doesn't do that. He is almost like a good guy lizard. And in the new movie, it's more accentuated then. So he has to help us.
Starting point is 00:59:16 And Mothra was the fucking bird. Mothra was a moth. Mothra was a moth. And what was the smog monster? You got Rodan. That's right, Rodan. And what was the smog monster? You got Rodan. His ultimate analysis. That's right, Rodan. Rodan was his ultimate analysis.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Yes. What did Rodan look like? I'm trying to remember. Like wings and shit, right? Didn't Rodan have wings? You got to get high and watch all these. Yeah, yeah. It's like the-
Starting point is 00:59:40 Yeah, you got to get high and watch these guys. Let me see what Rodan looked like. This is crazy. This shit. Oh, that's right. Rodan can fly. Look at that one with the blue sky below him. That's the three.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Oh, there's a three-headed one? Yeah. But this is new monsters, right? Oh, these are the new ones? These are the new ones. Get the fuck out of here with this new shit. Give me the blue sky right there. Yeah, right there.
Starting point is 01:00:00 It's like a drawing. That's kind of TV show-ish. Was a smart monster Monster had laser beams coming out of his fucking eyes like Medusa? Yes, he did. Yes, he did. One of them had fucking laser beams. Did he really? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:00:18 The three-headed thing. What was that called again? It's right here. Hold on. I forgot about that three-headed thing. King Ghidorah. I don't know how three-headed thing. King Ghidorah. I don't know how to say that. Oh, Ghidorah.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Motrat Rodan. It was Ghidorah, right? Ghidorah. Yeah. Pull up a video of Godzilla versus Ghidorah. It was so silly. But, man, when we were little kids and this shit was on on Saturday night. You would lose your fucking mind.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Yeah. Lose your mind. I used to and this shit was on on Saturday night. Lose your fucking mind. Yeah. Lose your mind. I used to love this shit. It was the best. When you found out Godzilla was going to be on TV, you were so pumped. This is from the actual new movie. Oh, there's a new movie with Ghidorah? This movie's out right now.
Starting point is 01:00:56 It is? The Godzilla King of the Monsters. And Ghidorah's in this? All three of these are. Let me see these bitches. Whoa. Special effects today is a lot better. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:01:10 This is amazing. This is crazy. Oh, my God. Dude, the special effects they can do today are insane. So we're looking at, it says King G-H-I-D-O-R-A-H. King Ghidorah. Oh, my God. Dude. at it says king g-h-i-d-o-r-a-h king gator oh my god dude the fucking special effects are insane there's mothra wow is this supposed to be a good movie though the things with these movies is and i really hate to say this how come they can't do both how come they can't have an amazing special of 40 on rotten tomatoes how come they can't have
Starting point is 01:01:53 amazing special effects and a fucking killer story no why can't they do that that's one of the last of the great 2009 is 10 years ago yeah which one was that one? Avatar. Avatar was a great story with great special effects. At the end of it, people are like, oh, it's Pocahontas in space. Get over it. Okay? Yeah, it is. It's a classic story. Like James Campbell always talks about this classic structure of these heroes' journeys.
Starting point is 01:02:22 There's a lot of that in there. It's very similar to a lot of the stories. It's still great. Don't let that get in the way of the fact journeys there's a lot of that in there it's very similar to a lot of the stories it's still great don't let that get in the way of the fact that it's great that movie was fucking awesome that movie was awesome just the special effects and the the way it all went together and yeah the fucking the bad military guy was cartoonish yeah of course he was so what why you let that get in the way with your fun think of it as like when a movie like that i think of it as like it's like a lot of the hyper violent tarantino movies like you know what you're signing up for you know you know what it is
Starting point is 01:02:58 this is not supposed to be some detailed analysis of the human psyche, you know, where a guy takes a strange slow transformation over the course of two hours. No, it's a fucking bad guy. This is a bad guy. Here's a good guy. Good guy can't use his legs. Wouldn't it be awesome if he could be one of those blue things? Pa-pow.
Starting point is 01:03:18 I never saw the fucking thing. Fucking movie's great. I never saw it. I never wanted to see it. I thought that they put too much money into it. Too much. Anybody can make a movie if I give you $600 million. It's not Yeah. Any idiot can make
Starting point is 01:03:32 a movie if I give you $600 million. Joey, it's James Cameron. James Cameron is a monster. I love James Cameron. He's made so many amazing movies. He's made some great movies. He's the fucking killer. I think that time it's like building an ego. It was like fucking building a team to put a movie together, which I understand. But 600 million, you know, it's Oscar nominated, but I love them.
Starting point is 01:03:54 They shunned them. They shunned them? No. Who shunned them? At the Oscars. He walked in. He thought he was bad to the bone. He was sitting there with his little new girlfriend and his ex-wife
Starting point is 01:04:09 Directed her locker. Well, so they're both up for the same thing Oh, he's sitting there looking at Spielberg like winking at him and winking at all the other white people like what's happening? And all of a sudden they go to announce the winner of the best movie and they showed up with Barbara Streisand Oh, once you pay her fee, you know what her number is just to walk out of the house? What's her number? Big. Big? Big.
Starting point is 01:04:30 I imagine. She's Barbra Streisand. Look at when she does the theaters. Her tickets are more expensive than the fucking Laker tickets. When she did the Staples Center, cheapest ticket, three bills by the refrigerator. Thousand. Two to sit on the floor barbara streisand don't fuck around so when they call her it's because she's lighting somebody's asshole up
Starting point is 01:04:52 even james cameron knew when he saw he put his head down look at the tape he knew what he was done and she came out and gave it to he lost that to his wife hurt Hurt Locker, though, that was like a culturally significant movie at the time of a war. That was super well done. There was no bullshit in that movie. That is a good fucking movie. Hurt Locker is one of those movies at the end of it you go, Jesus. Speaking of Hurt Locker, did you see what happened in New Jersey yesterday? What happened?
Starting point is 01:05:22 Ice went to New Jersey to go into some Jewish place, and Jews got together and held hands, and 36 of them got arrested. I've always said those Jersey Jews don't fuck around, Doug. East Coast Jews. All of them. Jersey, New York, Brooklyn. They held hands and went up against ICE.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Good for them. Little young kids. They don't fuck around in those jerseys. I was telling Lee last night. I go, Lee, you know they sell more neck braces in Jersey than they do across the country. Because there's a lot of Jews in Jersey that just wear neck
Starting point is 01:05:51 braces. Did you know that? Why? Because they're under lawsuit. Oh. So they just get hurt all the time. Every time I go to the Meadowlands, there'd be eight guys with neck braces on at the Meadowlands. And I asked around around what goes on you don't know
Starting point is 01:06:05 what that is they're on the they have somebody on the paper like they have a court case going oh that's so funny so they gotta wear
Starting point is 01:06:13 fucking neck braces and they call them the Jewish gold chains in Jersey you didn't know that dog they call they call
Starting point is 01:06:21 neck braces a Jewish gold chain so racist like when you go get a fucking neck brace, you have to back order them in Jersey. Like, they fucking. But Jewish folks are interesting in that it's a religion and a race. It's a religion. It's like a both.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Right? Kind of. Because a lot, like, Jewish, Ari's Jewish, but Ari's not religious anymore at all. No, he went over and did the whole fucking thing. But he's Jewish. Yeah, he's Jewish. Yeah, it's a different animal. There's a lot of Jewish atheists.
Starting point is 01:06:46 You're like, how the fuck? How can you do that? How does that work? They just do it. They identify with that tribe. It's part of a tribe. It's like a tribe. Right?
Starting point is 01:06:58 Like a tribe and a religion and a race. It's like three things. Dog, when I was a kid, I knew a Jersey Jew. He was an attorney. His name was Cozy. This motherfucker didn't even smile wow people going to him because they called him guaranteed 30 like he would get you 30 000 for anything like people cut their thumb and just go down there 30 30 30 g's and then you take an advance from you get hurt and you take an advance from coast let me get 10 g. When we were in Brooklyn the last time, when we were going to Peter Luger's,
Starting point is 01:07:28 and so we drove through these Hasidic neighborhoods, and these, you know, one of the ones like Ari, there's Orthodox Jews. There's a big community of Orthodox Jews. But in New York, in Brooklyn particularly, and Ari was explaining how they don't leave this community. This is where they stay. These are all their people. They don't give a fuck about what's happening in the outside world.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I'm like, wow. You just see this interesting subculture. It's one of the more cool things about New York is you get to be in that kind of – that's like a genuine – even though they're isolated, they have their own neighborhood. It's a genuine melting pot in that regard. Like you can go to a Chinatown, like a real Chinatown. You go to Chinatown in New York City, that's a different animal, man. I mean, you might as well be in some part of Asia.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Fucking MoHop is a tremendous restaurant. What's the name of it? MoHop. Where's that? It's in Mont Street. It's open 24 hours a day. They got real 24-hour joints in New York. Just put the fucking menu up from Mohawk.
Starting point is 01:08:26 When I was in New York shooting that movie, the one night I was starving, I got stoned. And at 1.30, I go, I can't do it. I called Mohawk. I go, what time you open till? They go, we'll open. I hung up the phone. I went on Uber.
Starting point is 01:08:39 It was a $10 cab ride. And I go, I'm going to go to Mohawk. And I chickened out Joe Rogan. I got a heart attack. Who goes to Warhawk at 2 in the morning? You'll get a heart attack. All that sodium will fucking kill me at 2 in the morning. I'll be up for two days.
Starting point is 01:08:55 We often went to Chinatown after playing pool because it was like the best thing back in my early stand-up days when I didn't have obligations. We'd stay up playing pool until 2, 3 in the morning and then go and you have a real meal. Like a really good meal. I think I'd have a heart attack now. That big ass meal at night with egg rolls. Carbs and egg rolls. Steak on a stick and fucking. Just a pork fried rice alone will set you off.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Was there even Diet Coke back then? When did Diet Coke get invented? No, there's always been. We always had Fresca. Yeah, we always had Fresca. When we were kids, my mother had Fresca and Tab. I drank Tab. My mother had Tab.
Starting point is 01:09:33 People got super sad when Tab went away. I remember people would be all bummed out. I love Tab, but Tab was a girl's drink. Tab. That was a girl's drink. Yeah, Tab, Fresca. Fresca was more of a girl's drink. But Tab was a girl's drink. Tab. Oh, hold on. That was a girls' drink. Yeah, Tab, Fresca. Fresca was more of a girls' drink. But Tab was a girls' drink because it had a pink can.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Wasn't, didn't Tab have like a pink can? Yes, yes. That's 1982. That's when Tab went away? No, Diet Coke. Oh, wow. I thought it was older than that. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Me too. Yeah. I still remember in 85 when they changed the recipe. That was 85 and motherfuckers went nuts. They went crazy. Yeah, they really did. They went crazy. New Coke.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Like, what? You're on Coke. Why would you fuck with the taste of the best soda of all time? Coca-Cola is the best tasting soda of all time. And there's other stuff that's really good. Like root beer is really good. It's interesting. But there's a reason why that shit sold a billion fucking trillion gallons over the past so tab had saccharin in it and led to bladder cancer
Starting point is 01:10:30 and rats people found that out and then the popularity declined exactly when diet coke came out 1982 oh they got set up put on your pink or your uh yeah your pink tinfoil um let me see a picture of it what did the tab can look like? Yeah, you're right. Was it pink? I'm trying to remember. See, again, memories. Okay. Like I was talking about.
Starting point is 01:10:53 I know that that registers with me, okay? I know that that makes sense. Yeah, that's what tab looked like. That makes sense. But that looks like a... But it was a Coca-Cola company also. Yeah. So I think Coca-Cola discontinued tab, put more fucking cancer in it and sold in his diet coke what i was gonna say is i can't i could never draw that like if you asked me to draw
Starting point is 01:11:12 what a tab can looks like i know i wouldn't be able to i knew it was in that realm of that red but it wasn't coca-cola red that's what I'm talking about with memory. Memory is a weird thing. It's very weird because my memory with numbers is pretty good. I remember a lot of important dates and times and things and statistics. I can remember a lot of statistics. And I remember a lot of fights. I can pretty much tell you what the outcome was. But how much do I remember of seeing it?
Starting point is 01:11:46 How much can I pull up and watch again? How accurate is that? I don't know. I was more of a sporting guy when I was growing up. Yesterday I was on a plane and they had the DirecTV on there. They were showing the best 10. I was looking at the
Starting point is 01:12:01 iPad anyway. I was watching something on the iPad, but that screen was on, and they were showing the best 10 football plays. And they showed Joe Montana throw it to Dwight Clark in 81. And right away my memory was like, wait a second, I won 800 on that game. Because I had the over. I had San Francisco getting a point. Eh, fucking Dallas went into San Francisco giving a point in those days.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Not on my clock. Not when Snowy Joey was throwing heat. That's when Snowy Joey was up there snowing coke, throwing fucking touchdowns up there, Joe Montana. I have all, like, who fucked, look at that.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Jesus Christ. Oh, no, no. There was a catch that some giant made with one hand. I don't know what the fuck. Oh, my God. They showed the best 10 catches. There was a catch that some giant made with one hand. I don't know what the fuck. Oh, my God. They showed the best ten catches. I was sitting there and I was just looking at them, but I saw this one catch.
Starting point is 01:12:52 I don't know what the catch. I think this is the kid they traded. He just reaches up, and the defender, he fucking pulls it in. Oh, my. I don't know if it's Odell Beckham. I thought it was Odell Beckham. It's like his specialty is doing those catches. Did you see Francis Ngannou knock out Junior Dos Santos? Yeah, I didn't even think it's Odell Beckham. I thought it was Odell Beckham. It's like his specialty is doing those catches. Did you see Francis Ngannou knock out Junior Dos Santos?
Starting point is 01:13:07 Yeah, I didn't even think it was a real knockout. He just blushed him. Look at him. He hit him, and he went down and held his head. Let him fight it out. Listen, that fight was over. You got to listen to me. That fight was over.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Did he hit him that hard? Yeah, it doesn't matter. The scary thing is he just clipped him. He clipped him. He clipped him, rocked him, put him down, pounded on his head, and Junior just couldn't even move. He just laid there and take it, and they stopped it quick. That was 100% legitimate.
Starting point is 01:13:31 100% legitimate stoppage. I thought between you and I that this would go a little longer. I thought that he was a seasoned veteran. I thought that he would go at least take it into the third round and try to nullify his power. By the third round, you can't keep throwing those fucking aim makers. I thought he was going to wrestle him a little bit. It was not what I anticipated.
Starting point is 01:13:50 It was not the game plan I thought. I got off stage and it was starting. As I walked into the green room, they were going, and I was so fucking happy. I'm like, let me watch this. I go, I think Junior has a shot here, as i thought that he was already on the floor holding his fucking forehead junior had a good start where
Starting point is 01:14:11 he was kicking the leg especially the the lower part of the leg you could really fuck someone up with yeah right he knocked him off balance and that can really fuck you up man like really mess up your movement and uh if that was the case if we was able to mess up his movement. And if that was the case, if we was able to mess up his movement and get him to miss a little bit, get him so that he was having a hard time moving correctly and keep chewing on that leg, then maybe there would be openings for him to jump in with some punches. The problem is when they're both on the outside,
Starting point is 01:14:39 Francis is bigger and the consequences are way more grave. If Francis clips you, it's nighty-night. I don't care who you are. He's so confident in it, too. He moves forward, and he's going to throw everything full speed. The first round with him is extremely dangerous because he's just trying to take you the fuck out. It takes a guy like Stipe.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Stipe Miocic saw what he was doing, and what he did was just ride with it. Just moved away from it, kept his hands up. When Francis was coming after him, he used good defense, and he kept moving and kept picking away at him, picking away at him, picking away at him, taking his shots when they were there, and then started wearing Francis down, taking him down, beating him up, and then just dominated him. Clear cut, unanimous decision for five rounds. It takes a guy like that, a guy like Stipe that has the mental fortitude to stick to
Starting point is 01:15:32 a game plan, not panic in the firefight. Because that's what happens with Ngannou. You're like, Jesus Christ, I'm going to see lights any second now. I'm going to see a big flash and I'm going to be out cold. Any second now it's coming and you see the reaction they have to him it's they fight different they fight different with him than they do with anybody else because the the consequences are so great if you watch the way he knocked out Alistair over him the consequences are so grave so everyone's scared no matter it's
Starting point is 01:16:01 normal everyone's scared to fight you know there's at least there's gonna be some anxiety or fear or you're gonna your heart rate's gonna get jacked your adrenaline's gonna be pumping but it's even more so if the consequences are more grave right like if you're gonna fucking take a skateboard down a small hill you're not freaking out right but if you take an escape board down like four mile canyon what is that four mile in boulder what is that one of those crazy roads that goes sunshine Canyon, right? If you're going to take a skateboard down that going 50 miles an hour, you're going to shit your fucking pants. You're going to try to land this thing right. Try to figure out how not to die here because the consequences are so much graver.
Starting point is 01:16:37 You're going to be more jacked. And that's what happens to these guys when they fight Francis. The consequences are so grave. They make mistakes. And then with Junior, he reached for an overhand right. He just really, really extended himself. You can't do that with Francis.
Starting point is 01:16:51 The scary thing is, it's true what Krokos says. Everybody has a game plan and they get punched in the face. That's Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson said that. I think it was it's un gallo that once you get that first point to fight. I only saw two fights. The funniest one was the first one against a kid from Dallas.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Props to him. He went up against, like, a lieutenant in the KKK. The guy drew blue on his face at the weigh-in, and they almost got into a little scuffle in the weigh-in, and he had no fucking love in his face. He didn't smile one time. He was definitely a member of the KKK. And this little black dude from Dallas came in and he did a spinning back kick
Starting point is 01:17:29 and that dude, it was all over. I don't know who you're talking about. First fight on the main card. Which fight? Undefeated from the non-contender series. Oh, I didn't see that fight. First fight on the card. He's 8-0 now out of Dallas.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Strong little guy. Really good. He still has to, he's going to grow a little bit. He's 8-0 now out of Dallas. Strong little guy. Really good. He still has to he's going to grow a little bit. He's going to get knocked out once before he really makes that big jump. But once he gets it, the guy kept doing spinning back kicks on him.
Starting point is 01:17:55 The second one, he was right in his back. This guy just hates black people. Who? The guy on the right? No, that's Paul Craig. Yeah, yeah. That guy there? Paul Craig is great. No, he's probably great. It's a fucking joke, Joe Brogan. I know, but that's a real person. He went in with a tough face, you know, like fucking the guy from, he went in there like
Starting point is 01:18:13 fucking Braveheart. He's a tough guy. Paul Craig is a good guy, too. But wait till you see the fucking fight. I'll see it. No, it was great. He just, the guy waited for the second one, and when the foot landed, he was right behind him.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Not being no time. Click. Oof. Guy turned around, and he hit him with a fucking drop in right hand. You could see his feet just go like, you know when you come, how your feet just going? Same thing. It looked like he came. He just went.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Jamie's got it. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. It was. Bah. What? That's the first one? So right away, he timed it. Bah, bah, bah, bah. Bah, bah, bah, bah. Yeah, it was. Bah. That's the first one. So right away, he timed it.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Ba-da-da-da. Bah-ya. Ba-la-pinga. Bah. Bah. That's it. Oh, man. The last one he did while the guy was already out.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Look at that. Boom. Boom. There he goes. Boom. Boom. There he goes. He's probably right now reading fucking Malcolm X's biography.
Starting point is 01:19:05 That was ferocious. Yeah. That was ferocious. Yeah. That was ferocious. I wonder why people want to spin that much. You know, those like that. I hate all that shit. Spinning punches. Why are you giving your back to a killer?
Starting point is 01:19:19 I never understood it. Well, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if you're not that good at it. He doesn't have a really fast wheel. He didn't commit to it. Edson Barboza. Edson Barboza wheel kicks people and puts them on Pluto. His spinning back kicks you to the body. I mean, his kicks, his spinning kicks are fucking insane.
Starting point is 01:19:37 But these guys are not that good. What I'm saying is Paul Craig, that's not his specialty. He's more of a grappler. I mean, he can strike, obviously. He's a good striker. But I wouldn't think that he would want to throw spin kicks. He's not of a grappler. I mean, he can strike, obviously. He's a good striker. But I wouldn't think that he would want to throw spin kicks. He's not like a Taekwondo guy, I don't think. If you don't do Taekwondo for 10 years, why are you spinning kicking in the UFC against an athletic guy?
Starting point is 01:19:56 You know, all those things. I hate when they, even that reverse punch, when the guy keeps doing it and doing it. I'm like, you know what? Choke him. Bust him in the fucking ear. See, when you're talking about like Edson Barboza, though. No, those are tremendous. The spinning kick he landed on Dan Hangman.
Starting point is 01:20:08 He kept fucking kicking his body with those spinning back kicks. Just fucking insane. You got to commit to that spinning back kick. Speaking of my commitment, how about Max Holloway spinning the little fucking cap off the bottle? Isn't that cute? And then the guitar player did it? Yeah. What's his name?
Starting point is 01:20:22 John Mayer. John Mayer. Yeah, he did it too. So did Max Holloway invented it? I don't know how. I just saw it on Yeah. What's his name? John Mayer. John Mayer. Yeah, he did it too. So did Max Holloway invented it? I don't know how. I just saw it on. Is he the first one? He's the first one I saw.
Starting point is 01:20:30 That's amazing. Everybody's trying to do it now. That's amazing. Max Holloway, he's such a fucking cool guy. I love that guy. When plays the show, he's a champion. He'll come back. Who the fuck loses better than him?
Starting point is 01:20:44 Yeah. He's tremendous. The way he lost to Dustin Poirier, zero excuses, all love, all happiness. He's amazing. Jason Statham, what's he doing? What's going on? He did a play, too. No, let me see.
Starting point is 01:20:53 He's a real karate guy. Jason Statham has real striking skills. Like, you can tell even the way he's standing here. Like, the way he's moving. No, no, no. He's going to spin. But even the way he's doing it like this guy's got real skill look at that kapow he um he achieved a very high level of uh skill in
Starting point is 01:21:20 karate i don't know exactly what it was but but from people that I know that have done martial arts with him and trained with him, they said that guy's a bad motherfucker, like a legit badass. Like, really knows martial arts. I believe it. Right? You see him, you're like, I believe it. See him in, like, Snatch, one of those movies.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Like, yeah, he fucked people up. He did a mechanic, too. That's why I don't even look at his face. Yeah, I know. I know it bothers you, but hey, he. That's why I don't even want to look at his face. Yeah, I know. I know it bothers you, but hey, he's a gig. I don't want to look at his fucking face. You understand?
Starting point is 01:21:49 He's going to take a gig. It's hard, man. I'm ashamed of him. You really should just say to them, hey, let's not do that. Let's just write a movie that's similar and homage to it. I know. They didn't even do an homage. That's what really pissed me off.
Starting point is 01:22:02 There was no respect at any level for Charles Bronson. Not even a fucking ounce't even do an homage. That's what really pissed me off. There was no respect at any level for Charles Bronson. Not even a fucking ounce. Not even an ounce. Why? Why do you say that? What do you mean? If you watch The Mechanic and study The Mechanic, it just wasn't a white guy shooting people. He was very calculated. There was no... Very calculated.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Everything was made to look like it was an accident. Very much accident it's one of the best beginnings the only movie that starts better than The Mechanic is Scarface there's something that has a better opening I forget there's no fucking dialogue
Starting point is 01:22:35 for 11 minutes, 12 minutes it's him setting up a guy to make it look like the fucking heater blew up like those type of guys. I had a friend that he used to say the best way to kill somebody is break in the house, take the fucking pipe, the gas thing out of the stove,
Starting point is 01:22:55 point it down and light a candle in the refrigerator and then leave. Whoa. And give it 15, 20 minutes and it's night, night Irene. What is this, Jamie? This is the beginning of the mechanic. It's the this, Jamie? This is the beginning of the mechanic. It's the whole movie, actually. This is the beginning of the mechanic.
Starting point is 01:23:08 This is the beginning of the original one. The original one. Yeah. Wow. Okay. You know, Jan Michael Vincent's father, in the movie, Charles Bronson kills. He gets a contract to kill him. That's how Jan Michael drips to him.
Starting point is 01:23:21 When he killed him, it made him look like he had a heart attack. He went on his medical file, and he saw he had a weak heart, and he went to meet him, and then he shot at the road. And he goes, run, run. So as the guy was running, he had a heart attack. Jason straightened him, and whoever the
Starting point is 01:23:38 fuck made the move, he'd make it look like he was just shooting up Charlie. Now you're saying to me, Joey, why do you take so much offense? Because it's, you know, it's the fucking mechanic. Yeah. It was that good of a goddamn movie, you know.
Starting point is 01:23:50 They redid Death Wish. No, no, no. You know, you can't redo Death Wish. One of the most disturbing movies you'll ever see. Bruce Willis. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:59 He should be shot and hung and shot again. Okay? I mean, he did fucking... Listen, you know what Death Wish has that nobody remembers? What? And I saw it when I was 10.
Starting point is 01:24:09 This is why I don't play that shit. Has one of the most disturbing rape scenes you'll ever see. And Jeff Goldblum's in it. Remember, they knocked his daughter out, raped her, spray-painted her ass. I left that movie being 11, like, fearing for my mom now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Like, I left there and I became tired with my mom at the bar. I tried to get a stick and a knife. Like, that could happen to women? Like, that happens to women? Like, guys just rip their pants off? I didn't know. I didn't know what that shit was until I watched the, whatever the fuck it is, Death Wish. It's a different world for women. Yeah, I couldn't even believe it Until I watched the, whatever the fuck it is, Death Wish. It's a different world for women.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Yeah, I couldn't even believe it when I watched that. They never talk about how disturbing that scene is. That's a thing that most men never have to think about. Unless you're in jail, most men, most men don't have to think about that. Then he goes to Arizona. All women have to think about that. You know what happened, right? He goes to Arizona.
Starting point is 01:25:02 They send him to Arizona to build the building. And he becomes friends with a redneck. And the redneck's like, man, that can't happen to you. He goes, I'll put a little something in your bag for you to take back up to those big city folks. When Charles Bronson got back to his house, it was a fucking white cannon from Texas. Paul Kersey, he was an architect. He gave him a fucking cannon. So Charles Bronson said, let me go out and have some fun and see what happens.
Starting point is 01:25:32 First night, some guy's like, hey, old-timer, give me 20 bucks. And you could see the panic in his face. He was an old man. He stole it. He stole it. He didn't take it out and say, fuck you. No. He was panicked.
Starting point is 01:25:44 And then he shot the guy in the subway scene you could see he's scared you remember when that fucking look at him look at him oh this is great that's right right here look he's just an old man dog 53 years old fucking killing it in america giving men like you and me hope he was was giving all the men hope, this fucking guy, right? I think he was at least 50 years old when he was in. Watch. Oh, wow. Look, look how scared he is. Bah!
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Starting point is 01:26:23 Bah! Bah! Bah! Bah! Bah! Bah!! This is a brilliant film. They'll never do that again because they won't take these little fucking details. He was petrified. That's a great scene. In hard times, I think he was 50 years old by then.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Remember when he played that boxer? The mechanic, he was 51, I think, hard times. Yeah, bro. I think he was 51 in hard times. There was no TRT back then, son. That dude was doing push-ups, chin-ups, steak and eggs. He was going to Formosa. What's Formosa?
Starting point is 01:26:50 That Formosa Cafe, that little bar down there. That's where he would go? Like to eat or some shit. He lived down there? I don't know what the deal was. Where did he live? When he came to L.A., that's where he took the name Bronson from, was that street in Hollywood. Really?
Starting point is 01:27:05 What was his real name? He's a Polack. But when he came to L.A., that's where he took the name Bronson from, was that street in Hollywood. Really? Bronson. What was his real name? He's a Polack. Brudinsky. Something just that they told him, like, you can't. Pachinski. Yeah, you can't. Pachinski?
Starting point is 01:27:14 Yeah, you can't have that name. So he looked around Hollywood. Perfect. And said, Bronson, you fucking believe that? When you hear that shit, like, wait, wait, wait a second. So you were walking down the street And this It's like when you had
Starting point is 01:27:27 Jamie Foxx on here Yeah He made his name Jamie Foxx Because people would think He was a hot chick Exactly That is the most brilliant thing
Starting point is 01:27:35 I've ever heard in my life Jamie Foxx was a bad motherfucker A brilliant man He's a brilliant man Brilliant The fact that he figured that out Yeah And then of course
Starting point is 01:27:42 If I'm a hot chick They pick your name on the lineup They see that Jamie Foxx, you get a chance to get out there. So smart. You know, like, if a guy sees that Foxx, whatever, Jamie,
Starting point is 01:27:54 especially with an I, he spells it J-I-M-I. Does he? Yeah. Doesn't he, Jamie? Oh, he spells it with regular Jamie? That makes you think it's abroad, right off the fucking bat.
Starting point is 01:28:05 If it's Jamie, J-A-Y-M-I-E, I would say it's a girl. Yeah, usually the I before the M is a girl spelling. There's a lot of those weird words like Sean. There's a lot of hot Seans that are girls, right? What else? What other ones? It's a guarantee. They used to be like Stacy.
Starting point is 01:28:21 They used to name dudes Stacy, like Stacy Keech. They used to be like Stacy. They used to name dudes Stacy. Like Stacy Keech. You know, there's a lot of dudes. Like in their 60s, they used to name guys Stacy. There's a name that a friend of mine had that was a guy. I can't remember it now.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Wasn't there one of the weird guys in Airplane? Leslie. Leslie. Leslie. They used to name guys Leslie. That's a weird one what was his name leslie the hilarious leslie hilarious that guy was hilarious wasn't he in creep show too was he one of the people in creep show that got killed i feel like he was one of those people that got buried on the beach or some shit like that yeah yeah he's a husband yeah he he uh did something to some some rich guy i buried him up
Starting point is 01:29:08 to his head i forget those fucking scary horror movies like creep show fun hair horror movies they don't make enough of those anymore either those are my favorite movies well they forgot how to make them anything else scream wasn't bad right It wasn't bad at all. And what year was that? 87? 97. Sorry. 96, 97. I'm sorry. 96, 97. That was a fun-ass movie. I think that's the last one I watched. But the last movie to scare
Starting point is 01:29:36 the living fuck out of me was the first Nightmare on Elm Street with the tongue coming out of the phone. Before that, you know, people are like, you don't watch Walking Dead. You know why? Again, I'm loyal to fucking when I was a kid. Those Dawn of the Dead movies.
Starting point is 01:29:54 What was the guy that wrote those? George Romero. George Romero. I'm loyal to him. My loyalty is with him. I took acid and went to George Romero. That one, Dawn of the Dead, when the helicopter chops the black guy's head off. When he doesn't even know. The helicopter lands and he's a zombie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:08 And I think it chops his head off. I remember tripping on ass. I almost had a fucking heart attack. Walking Dead was awesome for the first few episodes. They just lost. You just can't keep something like that up forever. It just becomes too hard to keep a story going. The story got too weird but the
Starting point is 01:30:26 best horror movie zombie horror movie of all time is 28 days later that's the best one that's that british movie so uh it we didn't get into like way after it came out in this in the theater over there most people have seen it they've seen it they've seen it on cable or dvd right it was what was 28 days later even in the theaters out here yeah was it yeah the death the death the one after that was a big deal but it was a british movie right god damn that movie's good i remember i bought a version of it on vhs on the remember european vhs was a different format it was like a you have a different player or you had to have a player that was a universal player that could play both. I had one of those just so I could get some cool documentaries and shit that you would get from Europe.
Starting point is 01:31:11 Just as a reminder, I want to give props to American Airlines for returning my luggage after the whole weekend, and they missed that fucking half ounce of weed in my boxing glove. You know what I'm saying? So you're the delivery driver. You're a dumb fuck. That was your tip. They lost my Muay Thai bag. They did?
Starting point is 01:31:28 I was going to Columbus to go to a short Muay Thai, and I brought my little fucking shin pads and my gloves and some hand wraps. You've been doing that a lot lately, huh? Muay Thai. I love it. It's great, right? I go twice a week. Well, I've had-
Starting point is 01:31:41 I'm 56. The targets, the thing. And I take the class with everybody else. I do everything else. I dive. And I go to one boxing because Tuesday and Wednesday. Tuesday and Thursday is boxing. Now, when you do the class, do they have you spar?
Starting point is 01:31:55 I'm 56. I light. No head key or none of that shit. Right. So you just tap into each other. Just me and you tapping, popping out, working on combinations, shit like that. Saturday, Sundays I go in. There's an open mat. If I'm home Sundays I go in, there's an open mat.
Starting point is 01:32:05 If I'm home, I go in and there's a chick that's like an ice cop. An ice cop? Oh, no. You know, she's a tough chick. Yeah? Yeah, she trains with Brett and the whole thing. So I go down and just let her beat me up to death. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:32:19 As someone who was born in another country, how do you think that they should handle the immigrations that are here? Because this is the big question. A lot of people know people that are, I mean, probably a lot of people listening, know someone who they love that's illegal. Whether they're illegal from Canada, or they're illegal from Europe, or they're illegal from Mexico, wherever the fuck.
Starting point is 01:32:39 There's a lot of people that get over here and stay over here that aren't supposed to be. Some of them turn out to be amazing people. So how how do you decide how do you decide who gets to say and there's someone coming over here trying to make their life a better a better thing but just doing it illegally does that automatically discount them from staying here that seems crazy what if they're great there's a lot of people come over here because they were super unfortunate and where they were born they they grew up in where they were born. They grew up in a shitty place, and they wanted to make it better, but they didn't know how to do it,
Starting point is 01:33:10 so they came over to America by hook or by crook. They figured out how to get here. They got here, and now they're kicking ass. Why would you want to get rid of them? As long as they're not criminals, as long as they're not hurting anybody, why would you want to get rid of them? Well, for starters, let's do this. Is all of that hurting anybody? Why would you want to get rid of them?
Starting point is 01:33:24 Well, for starters, let's do this. What's going on right now just points the finger at a certain realm of... You're pointing the finger south of the border. Yeah, it's Canadians. A lot of Canadians. And I'm not saying nothing bad about anybody. This is the United States of America. People come here to fucking have a dream.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Yeah. And whatever happens, bro. Sometimes a dream goes kaput. You know, when I went to New York, I spent three weeks in New York and I Ubered. And I did a little thing in my mind. You know, I took 20 Ubers. In fact, I became Uber Platinum because I was doing, you know, all these rides. Not one white person picked me up.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Not one time. Not one time. And guess what? I asked questions. I asked everybody questions and the most inspiring person I met was one night I worked till I wrapped at 6.30 in the morning. There was no way I was getting in the van to go home
Starting point is 01:34:15 and I just called Uber. I was in Ridgewood, Brooklyn and this Indian girl picked me up. Very cute. You know, 6 in the fucking morning. It's still kind of dark out, you know, 5.30, whatever it was, and this little girl that weighed 90 pounds picked me up, got in the car, hello, we have a charger in the back
Starting point is 01:34:37 if you want to charge your car, and there's little caramels in the front, you know, and I said, where are you from? And she told me India, and I go, how long have you been a year and a half spoke perfect english wow i go why do you why did you become an uber driver she doesn't became uber driver because i was a waitress in an indian restaurant and the guy abused me and he would only pay me eight bucks and i wouldn't take my tips. So me and my cousins got together.
Starting point is 01:35:05 We put away money and we rent a car. We leased a car. She drives in the daytime and I drive it at night. Wow. And I go, why aren't you scared to go out at night? She's like, no. She's like, I love it because there's no traffic at night. I go, what do you walk with?
Starting point is 01:35:25 I just asked her creepy questions. I just asked her questions. I gave her an extra tip. Let me ask you this. Can you be illegal and do that? Can they check your citizenship? I don't know what the status was with her. I didn't ask her.
Starting point is 01:35:42 I didn't know she was a citizen. What do you think? Do you think that you could do that? Do you think, like, if you came from Guatemala illegally, you came over here, though, and became an Uber driver, could you do that?
Starting point is 01:35:52 Me? No, can anybody do that? Or do they check your citizenship? What do you think, Jamie? Yes, they can do that. So someone definitely can come over here and start working for Uber or a similar company. I'm not saying they're doing that necessarily like through the proper ways like you can like
Starting point is 01:36:09 if you have a legal friend you can use their license to be the like the uber thing and they don't know who's behind the car so it happens all the time when i'm ordering food you you definitely have to have a valid driver's license right so can you get a valid driver's license if you're illegal oh that's the part like that's what I'm saying. So like, no. You can't? But that doesn't stop someone from getting behind a car if you don't have a license any day. That's sort of where I'm going with it.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Well, is there someone getting in trouble right now? Aren't we on the shit list because we agreed and somebody else to give illegals licenses? Yeah, that's why I was asking. There was a thought that popped, a memory that popped in my head about some story like that. That they were going to give illegal aliens the right to drive. I'm sort of saying like it does happen, but not above the board basically. Yeah, but are you sure? Could you see if they're trying to give illegal aliens driver's licenses?
Starting point is 01:36:57 Because I remember a story like this as well. People were super upset about it. It's a weird thing, man. There's 13 states that allow it. There you go, baby. Where do you have to move? What are those states? And D.C.
Starting point is 01:37:15 California is the first one. As of 2013, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, everywhere there's weed. Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Nevada, New Mexico, New York. Yeah, everywhere there's weed. Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Nevada, New Mexico, New York. Yeah, everywhere there's weed. Hawaii doesn't necessarily have weed. Utah, Vermont. I think Hawaii just has medical. It's very close to that.
Starting point is 01:37:33 From a business standpoint, they work for cheaper and work harder. I mean, there's so many benefits as a business owner. I mean, when was the last time you saw a white laborer? You see them. You go in the kitchen at any restaurant, it's all, you know. So now you're questioning what rights you have as an American. You come here, you get a job, you're working hard, you stay out of trouble. You stay out of trouble. You mind your business.
Starting point is 01:38:05 You know. I mean, you and I grew up on the East Coast where you go to a Chinese restaurant and you'd see the husband and wife working and the kids would be doing homework at the back table. And if you came in the daytime, it was a different couple, which is telling me that two couples got together, they buy a home,
Starting point is 01:38:26 and they open a business together, and they work together. That's what those immigrant groups do. And then from there, they bring a cousin, and they open, they open, and next thing you know, they got three houses on the block. And now you just had a fucking immigrant family moving to your neighborhood. Not necessarily good or bad. You know what I'm saying? They're nice.
Starting point is 01:38:44 We all had them in our neighborhoods. Sure. And remember, 70 years ago, this was your grandparents. Not necessarily good or bad. You know what I'm saying? They're nice. We all had them in our neighborhoods. Sure. And remember, 70 years ago, this was your grandparents. Yeah. So you have to think about your grandparents. How would you want them treated? I'm sure your grandfather got a job laying brick way before he got his immigration papers. I don't know how they did it right.
Starting point is 01:39:00 I think they got it pretty quick. You get to Ellis Island and they push you through. I mean, the legal situation. it was a different world back then you could immigrate pretty easily like my grandparents didn't weren't rocket scientists when they came over here no you know they were kids their their parents weren't geniuses do you know what's going on farmers do you know what's going on in south america right, Nicaragua, Honduras, all those places? Pure hell. Pure hell, you know? I can't be mad at you for wanting to get the fuck out of there.
Starting point is 01:39:36 But there's other places on earth right now where there's pure fucking hell going on. Yeah. And they're trying to come over, too. Let's point everybody out. Let's lock all the fucking borders. Don't make it seem like it's just Mexico that's the fucking problem. You know, we're getting bombarded from everywhere. We're getting new people in here every day from everywhere.
Starting point is 01:39:55 I ain't mad at it. They're coming here to make better lives. But don't just keep pointing the fucking border there. You know who else is coming through that Mexican border that nobody's talked about? Jamie, when you get a minute if you'd love to check it just to verify me you know how many cubans are getting sent back to cube on a daily basis from mexico really getting back to get a shot but cubans they're not coming to miami no more why they're not coming through they've closed all that type of shit what so right now you can't come through Miami anymore? It's easier to come, go from Cuba to Mexico and just join the walk.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Whoa. And walk up. But once Cubans are in America we give them asylum, right? Right. The tag. Is that still going on? I think Obama removed it. Did he really? Yes. Trump made it so we can't go over there anymore. There you go. Africans, Cubans, PAC, Mexican
Starting point is 01:40:44 shelters. They're going through Mexico. People are going through there anymore. There you go. Africans, Cubans, Pac, Mexican shelters hoping for a shot of sound. They're going through Mexico. People are going through Mexico now. That's crazy. So I think the number a couple weeks ago, I think 900 Cubans are getting sent back weekly to get shot. Does you think that more people are making it towards the border since Trump was like, build that wall, build that wall? Do you think more people are headed towards the border now because it's a popular thing to do?
Starting point is 01:41:08 It's a part of our culture. A part of the conversation is the border wall, right? Do you want a border wall or do you not want a border wall? Build that wall, make it a fucking million feet high, bring it right to the top of the earth. Or are you one of those people that thinks anybody should be able to come over here and have a better life? Those two ideas are fucking clashing left and right.
Starting point is 01:41:28 Some people think that people should be able to try to do better, try to better themselves. They should have the opportunity. And then some people think, fuck them. You were born somewhere else. You don't ever get a chance to come over here. Go in through proper channels, which is almost impossible. Do something that's very valuable to us over here. See, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:41:40 is almost impossible. Do something that's very valuable to us over here. See, that's the thing. If you're a person who has some extraordinary skill, you could probably get American citizenship easier. You're unusual. If you're contributing to the physics department at Harvard or something like that, and you were born in Germany or wherever,
Starting point is 01:41:58 you probably could get citizenship a little bit quicker than you have just a guy who lives in Guatemala and wants to come to America because he thinks he can advance his life. He thinks he can get better, whereas where he lives, you can't go anywhere. You're stuck. The poverty is extreme. The crime is extreme.
Starting point is 01:42:17 And he wants none of that. He wants to do better. So he makes it over here. Listen, when you talk about immigration, you're going to get good and bad from every country. You know, Castro in 79 opened up his prisons in the Mariel. And you got 100,000 Cubans and 100,000 fucking spoiled, rotten savages from Cuban prisons where they wear no clothes. And they have to shit in a hole in the middle of the floor. They're savages.
Starting point is 01:42:42 They're animals. They got no problem taking your life for a piece of toilet paper. But the same runs true from other countries. We get the good and the bad from other countries. You know, let's not beat around the bush. Before Russians come here, they got a course. They go to a school and take a 12-week course on how to come here and get money right off the bat, how to go to Social Security.
Starting point is 01:43:06 Check that out, Jamie. That's a very weird one. They get taught how to come here and scam the system, whether you want to call a scam. I'm not putting nobody down. I have tons of Russian friends. I love them. I'm not saying nothing bad, but I've heard that's a fact.
Starting point is 01:43:21 I've heard them from them. I have a friend who's married, and she told me one day that before they come here, they take a course to prep them on how to get money as soon as they land. Three days after they land, they get cash in dollar. Paperwork, what to say, they coach you. That's hilarious. Is this like a service that they offer?
Starting point is 01:43:43 Yeah, some type of class. I don't know exactly how it works, but ask somebody to rush. They'll tell you how to do it. How many Armenians come over, get citizenship? Guess what they do? They get Social Security and they move back to Armenia and they get the check
Starting point is 01:43:59 sent back to Armenia. They have a system on how to do that. They got a thousand loopholes now brother and if you learn those loopholes you could cave the fucking system there's nothing wrong with having a group of people that all agree on certain rules right which is what the united states should be but the problem with having a group of people is you don't get to pick like who's in that group so you're just deciding instead of being admitted by your merit or how good a neighbor you are or how nice of a person you are no you just whether or
Starting point is 01:44:31 not you're born on the dirt like were you born on this dirt or that dirt because you're born on that dirt you can't stay but if you're born on this dirt even if you're a shit human being you get to hang out you get to ruin other people's lives while you're here. As long as you don't do enough that we need to put you in a cage. And then if we do, we keep you for a couple years and let you out and you do more. I mean, this is... We have no problem with that. I don't know what the... Fuck.
Starting point is 01:44:57 What the percentage is. What the fuck was I going to tell you? I don't know. I lost my... What the percentage of good people versus bad people that come across the border? The thing is, every time there's a bad one that comes across the border, it's highlighted as an example of why we've got to keep the border closed. And they have a point. They all have a point.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Absolutely. When you see someone who is talking about illegal gang members, they're sneaking across the border and murdering people, it absolutely has happened. It's 100% a real thing. It's not fiction. The question is, it absolutely has happened. It's 100% a real thing. It's not fiction. The question is how much has it happened? And how much better is it for those people's lives that make it across? Is there a way to screen better to make sure that the bad people don't come in?
Starting point is 01:45:36 All of these questions are legitimate. You don't want a bunch of fucking evil, vicious people from another country in your neighborhood. That's how everybody feels. You don't want your children, your family to be in danger because someone snuck across the border and they have a long history of working for the cartel, murdering people. That's a real thing.
Starting point is 01:45:52 That's a real possibility. So all the people that are vigilant and all the people that are scared, it's probably smart to be scared. Look at fucking human history. People are capable of doing some awful shit. I don't think there should be no wall at all, nothing stopping people from coming across. You definitely don't want pieces of shit coming over here.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Let me ask you this before I think. Did you ever notice that maybe we're full? Yeah, we're probably. Maybe we're full. Did you notice that when you go on, there's homeless people on Ventura fucking Boulevard, on Lancashire Boulevard, under bridges everywhere. Has it ever come to your mind that anywhere you go on, there's homeless people on Ventura fucking Boulevard, on Lancashire Boulevard, under bridges everywhere. Has it ever come to your mind that anywhere you go, there's cars everywhere?
Starting point is 01:46:31 And they're between Uber and Lyft and cabs. Now there's traffic in every major fucking city. There's deadlock or whatever. Did you ever notice that maybe it's not that I hate Cubans or Mexicans or Puerto Ricans or blacks or Germans or Irish? Maybe that we're fucking full. Have you ever come to that conclusion? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:48 That we're just full right now. Yeah. We have to take five years off. Like, I would accept that. I would accept that. I would accept special circumstances. Like, why? Like, you have family here or something.
Starting point is 01:46:59 But at this point right now, we're fucking full, bro. Yeah. Yeah. We're full. We don't have nowhere else to put anymore. We really don't. No, we don't. Look at your cities.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Unless we pack them all to Iowa and send them all into my— Where's the highest population of Mexicans in the country? I would probably say Southern California, right? Wrong. Really? Indiana, Chicago. Indiana and Chicago? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:24 They farm a ton of shit up in Chicago. Oh, that makes sense. Up in rural Illinois. Wow. You know, where's the highest population of Puerto Ricans? The Bronx? You're wrong. Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Cleveland. Because in the 50s, they shipped. All the dealers were taking Puerto Ricans and putting them to the Cleveland, Ohio area to work in the fucking Ford plants and all those type of plants. And after all those places sat down, all those people sitting there holding on to their dick. When you go to certain parts of Ohio, there's a suburb outside of Cleveland. It's all fucking Puerto Rican. Wow. You know?
Starting point is 01:48:00 Interesting. But I don't think of it as we hate Russians or Germans or anything. I look at it from a different perspective at times, and maybe we're full. You know, for me to send my daughter to day camp costs three bills a week. I'm not complaining. It's a great day. It's a science camp. They make potions.
Starting point is 01:48:19 They learn about light bulbs and electricity. My point is I did the same thing for free when I was a kid. All I had to do was walk to my park. There's no funds left. There's nothing left for these kids. I don't know if I walk into a Dodger game or an event, I go, I always think of the family of four in America today, that both parents have to work and Yeah. And everybody has to work.
Starting point is 01:48:45 If you go by my office for the podcast, in the middle is a 24-hour daycare. How many times I leave my office at midnight and I see parents picking up their kids, you know, carrying them out over their shoulders into that car. You know, it costs a lot to control the American family. Yeah. There's not a lot of jobs. Why do you think you see everybody's driving Uber? If you take Ubers, Ubers is interesting.
Starting point is 01:49:08 I'm thinking of doing a documentary on just going in Ubers and talking to these people and asking them why they're Ubering. Yes, they had an engineer. Engineer, lost his job, 58 years old, got to work, Asian fellow. Very nice. I tipped him extra. He offered me to plug the phone. I mean, you know, you have to look at that and go, wow, there's a lot of people in this
Starting point is 01:49:32 country without work. There's a lot of fucking homeless people. We're running out of money to take care of what we got here. It's true. Like, there's, LA has an epidemic Of homeless people right now Where there's so many Tents on the street Epifuckingdemic They're everywhere
Starting point is 01:49:48 I mean They're on fucking Lancashire They're on You know what They're in They're in Sherman Oaks Yeah
Starting point is 01:49:55 On the streets Hiding on the underpasses Underpasses They're stuffed with them now Sometimes You know I mean we have to What are you gonna do with them
Starting point is 01:50:02 You can't walk through Those underpasses What are you gonna do with them You know what the answer is You know what they usually Do with them What They give them are you going to do with them? You can't walk through those underpasses. What are you going to do with them? You know what the answer is? You know what they usually do with them? What? They give them 100 bucks and they give them a bus pass to Vegas. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:50:10 And now Vegas is stuck with them. We talked about that on the podcast. For two months. Every city's done that. Every city keeps doing it. You just keep moving them around like shit. It's time to get fucking some, a park and put a tent city and make them be resourceful. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:50:25 There are more than 110,000 empty rental units in Los Angeles. Filling those spaces won't solve the housing or the homeless. Yeah, but the problem is if these fucking things are for rent and you have these homeless people that are drug addicts and probably mentally insane and you let them stay in those rental apartments, they're going to destroy your rental place. Well, let's be honest. There's 110,000. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:50:46 It all depends on what kind of homeless person you're talking about. Are you talking about a person who's down on his luck, or are you talking about a mental illness person? Drug addiction. Violently. When I see 10,000 homeless people in L.A., I got to assume 4,000 of them are people who are down on their luck. They made a slip.
Starting point is 01:51:09 They got four flat tires and they just get, you know, there's times people go through shit for periods of time. It could be a year. Yeah. It could be, it's like these fucking hikers. Every fucking three days a hiker gets lost, okay? Yeah. These hikers gets lost. And they stroll off.
Starting point is 01:51:26 When they get saved, they're all happy. You see them on Eyewitness News, like all happy. Wait till they get the bill. Bzzz. Do they get hit with a bill? Oh, yeah. Every time? Most.
Starting point is 01:51:37 We think those helicopters cost. So they, but the taxpayers don't. There's volunteer groups. There's volunteer. If every fucking hiker got paid for, for a fucking taxpayer, we'd be broke. So like in Colorado, say if you're one of those hikers who goes and snaps her ankle and you're on a ridge somewhere, they come and get you. That costs somebody money.
Starting point is 01:51:56 You got to pay somebody. There's no fucking tax fund. How much does that cost? That's got to cost a lot of money. If you get hit, listen, if you, like lady who got stuck in Hawaiiaii for a week whatever the fuck she was a month ago those helicopters cost something she got stuck in hawaii oh the lady the yoga teacher the yoga teacher yeah yeah you know they found her right yeah they found her i assume i'm just saying the story just because what happens if something like that happens to you and you get hit? You ever get involved in a lawsuit?
Starting point is 01:52:28 Okay, in a lawsuit, I rear-end Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's neck and, God forbid, his neck and his back are hurt. He can't do what God's, right? You file a claim against me. While you're going to the doctor, right, all those months, what does the doctor usually rate you at? Everything's payable at 30 days. 30 is it. When you start getting those $1,100 bills from when they look in your knee and in your neck,
Starting point is 01:52:57 when you get 10 of those, how are you going to pay them? Because you can't pay it until you get the settlement from the fucking attorney. A lot of times people go broke. By the time they get the money, the ship is sailed. It takes seven years to get that money. You've been going to the doctor for three years. Wait, the insurance covers all this? What insurance?
Starting point is 01:53:13 Well, tell everybody with the neck collars. It's more complicated. What's that? Tell everybody with the neck collars. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's more complicated. Yeah. So all those bills add up. You get hit with a bunch of bills, Joe, you're homeless.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Yep. You're homeless. It can happen. a bunch of bills, Joe, you're homeless. Yep. You're homeless. It's you and your wife, whatever, it's homeless. Unless you have parents and, you know, you're homeless. So when I look at the homeless situation, when you hit me with a 50,000 number, which is a lie, if you go around L.A., it's a lie, land at the airport and hook that fucking thing onto the 405 North and look under there. There's a hundred people just under there. So whatever number they tell
Starting point is 01:53:50 you. What do you think they tell you as far as like homeless population in LA? I don't know. I know Garcetti's under fire. Like I know that they're fucking, yeah. People are pissed because they gave him two million dollars. They gave him two million dollars. They gave him money and he didn't do dick. Oh really? Yeah, they gave him some type of money.
Starting point is 01:54:06 You got to put up some shelters. I saw that up in North Hollywood Studios, there's a church that on Thursdays they go and take showers there. You know, there was a place in Maine that was offering, they were offering young couples. They wanted young people and young families to move up there because uh it's tough to get people to live in some of those parts of maine so they offered incentives for uh young people to move up there and a lot of african folks started moving up there you know they found out that that was a good place to be and so they like filled up a lot of their shelters up there there was a an article about that see if you could find that. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:54:45 It's like, hey, they're like, look, I know it's cold as fuck, but we'll take a chance. They're from a war-torn part of the world. If they could just be cold in Maine and be at peace, they'll take it. That's why Marcus Davis lived up there. I asked him. Remember UFC fighter Marcus Davis?
Starting point is 01:55:00 I asked him, like, why do you like it in Maine? He's like, there's no fucking crime. He goes, it's none. He's like, there's like there's none he goes everybody's nice it's cold as fuck but everybody's nice. Remember the comedy club up there? Where was the comedy club? It was on a wharf and it floated. No. Where's where's that kid from Maine or Vermont or Marley? Bob Marley's from Maine. It was in Maine. Bob Marley got into the club one time. More asylum seekers arrive in Portland, Maine from southern border as city debates
Starting point is 01:55:33 assistance. Portland's human resources director criticizes comments by Mayor Ethan Strimling welcoming the arrival of more immigrants. Did it say that they're all from Africa it didn't say specifically Africa but they're buying them bus tickets to go from
Starting point is 01:55:50 like San Antonio and other parts in Texas I think this is a different one this is a different thing yeah just google it from Africa did you did you main African shelter should have popped up.
Starting point is 01:56:07 This one, that's just one person. A new migrant surge from the war. This one from Central Africa. Wow. Interesting. But, you know, for other people in other parts of the world, they're like, I'll take it. I get it.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Maine is, it is cold as fuck for a good stretch of the winter. But, you know, they just stay indoors and keep the fucking heat on whoa la population la county homeless population jumps so from 2011 it was 39 414 and in 2019 it's 58 936 so it jumped up a fucking ton, almost 20,000. And that's just over a period of eight years. That's crazy. That's a lot of people. There's a couple dudes by my house I take care of.
Starting point is 01:56:53 There's a couple dudes that live in shopping carts. I always drop a little food. There's one dude that was like a, he's like a sojourn with PTSD. And he lives in the park. He's got to be 6'4", 280, big black. What do you want to do? Every time I see him, I pull over. I give him a 20.
Starting point is 01:57:11 I introduce him to my wife and my daughter. You see anything, you just attack. You just attack. You rip him apart. When my daughter started going to grammar school, I saw him one day walking by the grammar school. I pulled right up. I go, you see that grammar school right there?
Starting point is 01:57:26 My daughter goes to school. You see any suspicious white people? You just rip them apart. Let me deal with it later. He has a Rambo knife. Bigger than Rambo. Bigger than Rambo. I love him.
Starting point is 01:57:38 I love him to death. You could see with a PTSD and mental health, he won't take showers. Oh, no. But he's got a heart of gold. Whenever he sees me, he smiles. He gives me a thumbs up. I've been in that neighborhood 10 years. I see him in that park maybe six.
Starting point is 01:57:54 Never violent behavior. He doesn't drink alcohol, so I know he's not just a fucking drunk. He just can't get a job? It's just mental health. No, it's a mental health issue. Yeah. He's a veteran.
Starting point is 01:58:06 I asked him, how you doing? What's going on? And he told me his whole, like, little story as much as he could without being embarrassed. So I just duke him.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Every time I see him, I just put money in his pan. Good for you. And he's as happy as a pig and shit. But he's a fucking stone killer. There ain't gonna be no shootings at that kid's school because I got him checking it out three times
Starting point is 01:58:27 a day. You think I'm kidding you? You think I'm kidding you? I love him. I love him to death. My wife waves at him. We beep at him. Mercy waves at him. Everybody's happy with him. Just so there's no misunderstandings. I got a little peace of mind. Is there ever gonna be a time when there's no bad neighborhoods?
Starting point is 01:58:44 Is that possible? Is it possible to have a place where there's no bad neighborhoods is that possible is it possible to have a place where there's no crime at all what do you think is that ever really going to be possible i mean it's definitely better now than it ever has been before and you can think that if if things move in the same general direction there'll be less crime 100 years now than 100 years ago but do you ever think there's going to be a time where everywhere is safe you know the internet gives you a lot of education on what cities are having a hard time ago, but do you ever think there's going to be a time where everyone is safe? You know, the internet gives you a lot of education on what cities are having a hard time. They don't
Starting point is 01:59:10 tell you, but they don't really fill you in. You know, every weekend you see the murder camp in Chicago. It's crazy. Every weekend, the murder camp in Chicago. These fucking countries ain't no safer. Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico. A couple, I think about a year ago, they had as many shootings in Puerto Rico one weekend
Starting point is 01:59:26 as they do in fucking Chicago on the weekends. You know? Look at the shit that happens in LA. We don't hear everything. What's happening in the Dominican Republic? All these people are dying. Are dying. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:59:37 What is happening? It's a mini bar. It's this. It's that. What do you think, Jamie? What do you think, Jamie? Speculation. Speculation.
Starting point is 01:59:44 I heard that there's lots of deals that get made from like think jamming speculation i heard that uh there's lots of deals that get made from like friend like if you had a friend that was like maybe refilling mini bars your other friend would then refill the little bottles with not actual liquor or something like that and like they just kind of refill those i've seen videos online it's not actually happening in the dominican republic but we're all inclusive resorts so that's what the video said they're just refilling bottles of cavarier and Hennessy and all sorts. Just like with brown water, I don't know what the fuck they're even doing. It's like a whole system they have.
Starting point is 02:00:12 There's like 15 people, a little factory in the back of a shed on the beach, just filling up empty bottles of shit. So just ripping people off. I don't know if that's what's happening in the DR, but that's what I've read speculation online says, that there's just sort of something going on. Where are you reading this? Online.
Starting point is 02:00:26 Not any, it's again, it's speculation. It's nowhere. Right. Legit. I don't know. That seems to make sense, right? If someone had a scam and those little mini bar bottles are kind of expensive. Just like a bad batch.
Starting point is 02:00:38 And just like you get bad batches of drugs, they got to find out who spiked the fentanyl or whatever thing. Maybe they got some bullshit homemade booze that's poison. They got spread around. Who knows? Yeah, but the whole thing is suspicious. They're doing kinky shit at the hospital. Kinky shit? Yeah. What kind of kinky shit? No answering. No answering? No hablo. We don't know. You know what it is? They're probably overwhelmed. Can you imagine if we're sitting over here talking about it, how many people have been calling them? How many people are furious because they lost their loved one over there?
Starting point is 02:01:10 They don't know what the fuck is going on. And then someone said that it's not necessarily really an uptick. That there's not necessarily really an uptick of deaths. It's just that they're highlighting every time someone dies. And that the reality is people die all the time i don't know if that makes sense you know like i mean how many people if you were just looking at los angeles that come here and they visit wind up having a heart attack and dying it might be a lot you know we don't really know i mean how many people come over here
Starting point is 02:01:42 from another country every day and wind up dying while they're here? Is that a normal thing that people do? Because people do. I mean, if people are dying of heart attacks and strokes and all sorts of other shit, is that because someone's doing something to them? Or is it because 100,000 people a day come over here and one of them a day dies? I don't know what those numbers are. I don't know if it's legit. What are you showing me?
Starting point is 02:02:10 People that died it's number grand numbers i guess this looks like only maybe 12 to 15 people since march march that's a lot but is it i don't know i don't know if that's it or here in california all these people are older no no people are 50 or older yeah right which can happen at any point in time especially if you're on vacation Doing Viagra Drinking straight Jack Daniels Fucking up a storm You could have a heart attack bro But
Starting point is 02:02:33 All jokes aside No disrespect to the dead Can you Google How many people Is this an uptick Are Are really
Starting point is 02:02:43 Is it What's the best way to say this How many tourists die per year it what's the best way to say this? How many tourists die per year? Yeah. What's the annual tourist rate? Tourist death rate?
Starting point is 02:02:50 And is it any different from what we're experiencing now? Because it would be weird if we just found out that no this is just what happens. And they're just
Starting point is 02:02:57 making a big deal out of this for a story. With this that you know 55 year old drunk guys die every year in the Dominican Republic and in Cuba and in Puerto Rico.
Starting point is 02:03:06 And people get hammered on vacation, bro. You know what I heard about Dominican Republic, Punta Cana, that I have no reason to go there? Why? They sell cocaine on the beach. I do not like that idea. At all. When I heard that they sold cocaine on the beach at, what's the big Mexican resort where the people go for spring break? Oh.
Starting point is 02:03:30 Not Mazatlan, but. Oh, yeah. Tulum? No, not Tulum. Cancun? Cancun. Cancun. They sell coke on the beach.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Yeah. All those types. When you sell coke on the beach, I don't want to be on that beach. And I was a junkie. You know what I'm saying? I just have this weird feeling about that. They sell coke on the beach i don't want to be on that beach and i was a junkie you know what i'm saying i just have this weird feeling about that they sell coke on the beach they do that in um costa rica too i had somebody offer me some blow no yeah yeah yeah yeah bill hicks used to have a funny joke about that about walking down the street and someone's trying to say i see a coke coke you
Starting point is 02:04:02 got coke we got weed you got coke the guy would see me heroin and he go heroin and he goes the fuck why do you think i wanted heroin man i can afford coke pretty funny to one uh about 2.7 american uh americans visited dominican republic last year which publicly releases data on only about natural deaths such as car crashes and drownings it does not release information about deaths by natural deaths such as car crashes and drownings. It does not release information about deaths by natural causes such as heart attacks or strokes, even though it compiles reports on all Americans who die abroad. It's a matter of statistics that a certain number of travelers will suffer serious illnesses, accidents, and even death while traveling internationally.
Starting point is 02:04:43 The death rate in the Dominican Republic is not any higher than the death rate in the states officials said that's what i'm talking about you don't when people visit other countries don't expect them to stay alive because you don't expect them to stay alive here they die all the time but when you're talking about what did they say what was the hundreds of thousands how How many hundreds of thousands of people visit the Dominican Republic every year? 2.7 million visited last year. Americans visited last year. Oh, my God. Really?
Starting point is 02:05:10 2.7 million? Yeah. That's a lot of fucking people. 10 people died. 12 people have died, I guess. Why did I think it was hundreds of thousands? That's way more. Last year, 11 people died?
Starting point is 02:05:18 Last year? No. This year? In the last couple of months, 12 people died. That's a lot of fucking people going over there, man. People die. But meanwhile, everybody's scared to go to the Dominican Republic. So it's like probably killing their business.
Starting point is 02:05:31 And, oh, he was fine until he drank out of the mini bar. Come on, man. Are you sure? You know, some people, I'm sure, are getting fucked. The scary one was the lady who got attacked. There was a lady who got attacked. Right, right, right. They beat her half to death.
Starting point is 02:05:48 She has no idea what happened. She saw a guy with an outfit on from the resort, like an employee's outfit, and he fucking clubbed her and beat the shit out of her, and she doesn't remember anything. He left her for dead. And when they found her, they thought she was dead. You know, bro, I got to be honest with you. For the last 10,
Starting point is 02:06:06 20 years, there ain't nowhere I really want to go. Hawaii is awesome. I'm scared of all that shit. Go to Hawaii. It's the United States. We were thinking of going to Hawaii. Yeah, go to Maui or you know. My wife and I sat down and we're like, all the places you want to go, it's a
Starting point is 02:06:21 six-hour fucking flight. It's true. You know, and after a while, doing what we do, we got some of the best coastline in the world here. If you stop down by San Diego, mix it up a little bit. One of the beaches, go up north to Santa Barbara or go even up a little north, you know. So we're going to do that a little bit. I mean. Santa Barbara's beautiful. Santa Barbara's beautiful.
Starting point is 02:06:44 That's like being on a vacation, you know, and you're an hour away. We take too many fucking planes to be on six hours to go to fucking Miami or New York. I thought about taking it to the Jersey Shore. I thought about doing a lot of shit like that this summer. You know what you could do, too? You could take a couple day trip, like go to Santa Barbara for a day. Yeah, that's what I'm doing this week. And then leave to Santa Barbara, go up past San Luis Obispo.
Starting point is 02:07:04 That's real nice. Joe, I don't know if doing this week. And then you just Santa Barbara, go up past San Luis Obispo. That's real nice. Joe, I don't know if you know this. I fucking hate holidays. Do you? I hate holidays because it softens us. Guys like you and me, we work through everything. But there's motherfuckers that two weeks before Christmas, they shut down on my ass. They start singing jingle bells and shit.
Starting point is 02:07:21 A week before Mother's Day, a week before Memorial Day. It fucking kills me. Like, this Memorial Day killed me. You got to figure, I was in New York for three weeks, you know, walking around. All of a sudden, I come home in the first week. I come back to Memorial Day weekend. Nobody's having a party. Nobody's doing shit.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Finally, Monday night, I tell my wife, I go, fuck it. I got tickets for the Dodger game. Let's go to the Dodger game. What are you doing for the 4th? I'm going to the beach. Nice. I'm leaving fucking Wednesday morning. When did we have a barbecue over my house for the 4th when you brought your daughter?
Starting point is 02:07:54 When was the last time? That was like three years ago? Three or four years ago. Yeah, she was two or three. She was so cute. No, she's six. She's so cute, man. Going sick.
Starting point is 02:08:03 She pointed to me and went, yuck. Yuck. I asked her the other day. I go, me and went, yuck. Yuck. I asked her the other day. I go, you don't say yuck no more, do you? And she goes, nah, I grew that. I came close to her. You were holding her. I came closer to say hi.
Starting point is 02:08:14 I'm like, how are you? And she's like, yuck. And now she sees you and she goes, I know him. Yeah, that's hilarious. She still remembers you. That's adorable. The kids' memories are horrible. And I remember being a kid and going to my mom's bar. him yeah she still remembers you she's got you know that's adorable it's the the kids memories are horrible and i remember being a kid and going to my mom's bar and there were certain people that
Starting point is 02:08:31 would walk in and my mom would go before you say anything i want you to know that he remembers everything he doesn't react to you but he'll tell me at two in the morning i would tell my mom shit like that dude came and he had a gun he had something on his nose and my mom would go jesus christ so my mom would and that's what's crazy about kids you kids are little people they're in another room you're having a conversation with your wife three days later she'll tell me what that conversation was and i'll just look at her i don't smoke in the house no more she She's busted me once, but she never said nothing to nobody. So I could tell she's a dear as she keeps a mouth shut. I walked out and she was right there.
Starting point is 02:09:13 And as I was talking to her, smoke was coming out of my mouth. She didn't say one word to me. And she hates smokers. Like, she fucking hates smokers. Not because it's bad for their health, because they're ruining the environment. That's hilarious. Nothing about health. She health, because they're ruining the environment. That's hilarious. Nothing about health. She's like, they're no good people.
Starting point is 02:09:30 Smokers are no good because they're ruining the environment, daddy. So I'm like, okay, what are you going to do? No, I'm thinking about the Hawaiian thing. I want you to hook me up to Mane and Zee. Let me know. Okay. I know it's a certain four seasons. I'll tell you exactly where to go.
Starting point is 02:09:43 What plane, what time of the year. It's nice, Joey. Because I don't know what time of the year to know. Okay. I know it's a certain four seasons. I'll tell you exactly where to go. What plane, what time of the year. It's nice, Joey. Because I don't know what time of the year to go. Anytime. Oh, okay. That's all bullshit? Fuck yeah, for Hawaii. I'd go to Hawaii any day of the year.
Starting point is 02:09:54 So that you don't go from like December to February because it's volcano season and nothing like that? We went in June. Okay. And before that, we went, last time we had gone was in January or December. Yeah, it's beautiful. The people are so nice, man. But I shouldn't say this.
Starting point is 02:10:11 They're probably getting mad. You're going to make more people come over there. It's an amazing place to live, man. They live in paradise. They're on an island that's created by a volcano in the middle of the ocean. And it's fucking gorgeous it's just it's so pretty what was the craziest thing you saw in the water uh we saw a lot of um a lot of dolphins man a lot of spinner spinner dolphins i guess they call them i guess that's what kind
Starting point is 02:10:39 of dolphins they were i don't remember what kind of dolphins um but back in uh december we saw whales that was awesome that's amazing man you see fucking whales breach the surface of the water like whoa wild man just get out there in boats and you look for splashes in the distance and then we saw them big schools of dolphins they swim under your boat it's wild shit man you know because they're just these crazy sea mammals that are super intelligent live in the water right off right off the coast i mean that's a it's such a paradise because what hawaii has that no other place does is it's fully surrounded by the most beautiful pristine water there's no shit beaches beaches on Hawaii. It's all gorgeous water. Did you scuba-gee?
Starting point is 02:11:28 Yeah. No, we snorkeled. Okay, so when you went snorkeling, any sharks? No, that scares the fuck out of me, though. What? That scares the fuck out of me. Why?
Starting point is 02:11:35 That scares the fuck out of me. Guy just got killed. I love you to death. Thank you. I love you, too. I am fucking to a point where I am petrified. And I don't know about you. You should be.
Starting point is 02:11:44 I grew up in a... I still remember my mom taking me to Coney Island, dog. Being a little kid, getting an hot dog. I got, both times I went to Coney Island, I had drama. The first time I went to Coney Island, I got caught in a, what's the, when the. Undertow? Yeah. Yeah. Where you go out and out here in your waist yeah
Starting point is 02:12:07 me and you were playing yeah we look at our parents and they're two miles away it's very dangerous so the fucking lifeguards i had to be five maybe five maybe four i was my first experience in coney island second experience in coney island there with my cousins we're jumping up and down i'll never forget it had to be hot. Like those hot days. We ran in. Gino was swimming around. And all of a sudden we look up. And there was the biggest piece of shit.
Starting point is 02:12:31 It was 13, 14 inches. Spinning around on the beach. Just floating past us. I remember walking out and telling my mom, I'm never going back. That was the last time I went to Coney Island. And then I went to Jersey. And I went to the beach. I loved the last time I went to Coney Island. And then I went to Jersey, and I went to the beach. I loved it.
Starting point is 02:12:48 Everything was hunky-dory. And it started here about 2003. I went down to the beach, and when we got there, the lifeguard walks over. You know, after you smoke a fucking joint and you got the SPF on you. The guy comes over, and he goes, the beach isn't closed officially, but there's been a couple of shark sightings this morning out there. So if you go into the water, I just want you to know, let me know and wave over at me. This is when you come up here and you make the right turn down. Uh, you know, I don't know. Anyway, it's, it's the other way of going down to the beach. It's not the four or five way to sunset and you get off. It's the other way.
Starting point is 02:13:29 What canyon do you go down? Topanga? Topanga Canyon. You go down. That time we got right there. As soon as we landed, had to be 2003, 2002. The guys said, it's not closed, but they've been seeing a couple spots. I always try to go in the ocean I'm Cuban
Starting point is 02:13:46 my mother loved the beach we always went every time I go to the beach I go what the fuck is wrong with me and I buckle up I take four steps I dip in and then I walk out a little bit and once I start bouncing I go under
Starting point is 02:14:02 and I take a couple strokes Joe I feel great and as soon as couple strokes. Joe, I feel great. And as soon as one of those fucking things touch my foot, you never see a fat motherfucker run as quick as you see. I just run out straight, and that's it. I put my SPF on, and I don't go back in the water. I go in just to refresh myself. Did you see the fucking great white they saw off the coast of Jersey?
Starting point is 02:14:25 The one that bit the guy's fish when he was bringing it in? Did you see that? Unbelievable. That's not normal, brother. I grew up in Jersey. There's always been sharks, but not great whites like that. Great whites started. The first time I ever saw a shark was in Montauk.
Starting point is 02:14:44 Montauk is next to Amity where they really shot Jaws. Jaws is supposed to be Amity or one of those. If you look, I don't know what correctly it is. When they shot Jaws, it's supposed to be the coast of fucking Long Island. But if anybody knew, when I was a kid, I used to go to Montauk all the time. That beach was no bueno, dog. You'd be on the beach and a fucking crab would walk up to you. They walked backwards.
Starting point is 02:15:09 But this is unheard of, guys. Come on. That's George. It's biting their buoy? Is that what that is? Yeah. Or is that a sack of meat? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:16 I think there's meat. They're chumming it? Yeah. Oh, they're chumming? Why is it biting that thing then? Is that definitely what's going on? What is on that rope back there? Oh, so it ripped it apart
Starting point is 02:15:27 Oh yeah, look, they're salmon fillets 2,000 pounds Or fish fillets They think the shark was 2,000 pounds? Look at the size Stop doing this Because it's hard for me to tell what's going on Okay, they dangled
Starting point is 02:15:41 So what is it biting? What is that yellow thing? It's like a buoy or something. Yeah, it looks like it. But why would it bite a buoy? It's a fucking animal. But you see how they have that piece of fish? They were dangling in the water.
Starting point is 02:15:54 It seemed to me like they were trying to bring that. But with that fish, it was already filleted. So it's like the body, the head, and the tail. It seemed to me like they're putting that in the water to attract sharks i bet they know a spot where shark see see what i'm talking about see that's the part of the fish that you can't you know it's like he's got it opened up like a fillet and they're dragging it through the water i think to try to attract them maybe they saw it and they're like let's see if we can get it closer yeah maybe right yeah
Starting point is 02:16:24 fuck oh shit never mind get it away yeah and so then they throw it yeah they were like, let's see if we can get it closer. Yeah, maybe, right? Fuck. Oh, shit, never mind. Get it away. Yeah, see, they're throwing that in the water. They're definitely trying to bring him closer to the boat. I don't give a fuck if they put a leg in the water. Look at the size of that fucking thing off the coast of New Jersey. That's what makes you want to scratch your fucking head. Then a week later, a SEAL attacked
Starting point is 02:16:46 a girl on a California beach. A SEAL. I saw one where a SEAL grabbed a girl's leg and pulled her into the water off a dock. That was a different one. This is another one. And they're blaming it on a chemical in the ocean. Clonox or something like that that wants
Starting point is 02:17:01 the SEALs get that in. Look at this girl how she got dragged wants the seals. Get that in. Look at this girl, how she got dragged in, guys. Look at this. Look at this, my brother. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah, don't. Get the fuck out of my leg.
Starting point is 02:17:15 Something's going on. Holy shit. Holy shit. I can't understand anything else. Bro. I think the climate change is everywhere. It's all over. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:17:27 Oh, that thing fucked her leg up. Come on, guy. Wow, that's crazy that they got it on video, too. It just jumps up and bites her fucking leg. Maybe to pay back. Did you see that, too, this week? The dogs? Oh, look at this.
Starting point is 02:17:40 Trying to get a dog? Yeah. I don't know what's going on here. No, it's a big giant shark. Oh, Jesus Christ. And then the rest of the dogs come in to help its buddy. And it sort of stays for a second. I thought maybe it had one, and they're trying to get it to release it.
Starting point is 02:17:54 Did it? I don't believe so. No, look at it. Jesus Christ. It's a really crazy fucking video. But the dogs are huge also. They're not bitch-ass dogs. I guess.
Starting point is 02:18:04 I mean, who would show up to the beach with five savages like that? That's a fucking shark bro. No dog you gotta be very careful. You gotta be very careful now. Something's going on and you have to. Do you think the world's coming to an end? Not at all. What do you think I'm Eddie Bravo?
Starting point is 02:18:19 The world we got whistling and dick until something happens but what could make all these shark attacks, especially on the East Coast the last three weeks? Well, here's one thing. Especially on the East Coast. One thing could be lack of food, right? I mean, they overfish the fuck out of the ocean. People know for a fact that that's a real problem.
Starting point is 02:18:39 That's a real problem. Overfishing is a giant problem. They're worried that the ocean fish in some parts of the world will literally be extinct there'll be nothing left in 50 60 100 years who knows if they don't clean up their act but you see the way they do with commercial nets just just throw those fucking things in and just insane wide nets just scooping up everything and then they they get all these fish and they dump them in the hull of the boat. It's crazy how much fish they kill. It's crazy what a desire for fish we all have. But if sharks run out of shit to eat and then the seals run out of shit to eat,
Starting point is 02:19:14 the sharks start running out of seals and they start going after people. What do seals eat? That's a good question. I don't imagine they eat fish. seals eat? That's a good question. I don't imagine they eat fish. Years ago,
Starting point is 02:19:27 seals up in San Francisco were getting killed by sharks. Yeah, it was a bad one. At such a high level, at such a high level that a guy was
Starting point is 02:19:37 on a surfboard and they couldn't imagine why the shark bit him. And then they looked into it and they said from underneath the shark just sees a seal. Yeah. There's a crazy video of a shark taking a seal out on this one right here. Right in front of all these people on the marina.
Starting point is 02:19:56 Is that Alcatraz? Alcatraz. Okay, watch this. Back it up a little bit. Watch this splatter. The shark just jacks his fucking seal right in front of everybody. They're all looking out. Watch this watch this boom look at all that blood and everybody's like what the fuck it's an oil slick of blood the shark comes out of the water with the seal i mean look at that blood
Starting point is 02:20:18 that is madness bright red blotch and a fucking huge shark destroying a seal in front of everybody just let you know that's their world there's monsters right there it's just they can't get out of the water i mean imagine if that was like right next to the woods and you know that if you didn't go into the woods you'd be okay but if you did go into the woods there's a giant gray thing that moves 30 miles an hour that just bites the legs and arms off of everything it runs into is that what the village was they scared him from going into the woods because something's gonna kill him if they were out there they yeah they put on a costume the village was about a bunch of people that didn't know that it was like 2000 and i know that but i mean isn't that what they the idea is like they going to die by something?
Starting point is 02:21:05 Yeah, they scared them with some costume or some shit, right? Giant shark. But that's what it's like when you're sitting on the dock there looking out at that shark fucking up that seal in the water. It's right there. I mean, you could just jump in. I mean, it is sort of like being at the edge of the woods watching some mythical monster tear apart a creature in front of you we spoke when you went hawaii that's the first thing i said to you though look out for the fucking sharks dog i'm worried about we're fine nothing happened we're fine and they got hammerheads
Starting point is 02:21:35 down there well there's a lot of tiger sharks tiger sharks bite people bull sharks are apparently the most dangerous and they're the weird ones because they go through fresh water. They'll go like they found bull sharks way up near Illinois, like near Chicago on rivers. Bull sharks get in fresh water and swim all the way up the river. In fact, Jaws was actually inspired by bull sharks that bit people over like a successive couple of days in New Jersey, in a river in New Jersey. The actual original story that inspired Jaws came from shark attacks in, I want to say, maybe the 50s or some shit like that,
Starting point is 02:22:17 that were near a river in New Jersey. Freshwater River. Speaking of New Jersey, there's something I want to show you. See if you can find that story, Jamie. I know there's been sharks seen in the Mississippi River Yeah yeah yeah Same kind of story Yeah exactly
Starting point is 02:22:31 They can go way up They can survive in fresh water The bull sharks are They're a weird animal I think that monster guy That television show River Monsters That dude that cool guy I think that guy uh caught one somewhere
Starting point is 02:22:45 if i remember correctly that guy that used to hang out with wild boys steve-o and chris ponnius manny he got into that water in the bay at san francisco with like 200 bull sharks the footage of it is fucking crazy oh my god he's like he seems so insane they're also insane just with no cage or nothing nothing mom see though how about when steve-o was on that fucking tree and the lions jumped up in the tree to be with him? Like, what in the fuck, son? They took his hat from him, took his hat off his head. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 02:23:12 What? What? What? Like, he was inches from death. One of your fans sent me an article for you about six months ago. Really interesting. I got it somewhere in my phone. I think it's on Twitter.
Starting point is 02:23:27 So Rocky Balboa, Sylvester Stallone was a young guy and he went into a gym in Bayonne because he wanted Chuck Wepner's trainer to train him. But Chuck Wepner's trainer told him to fuck off
Starting point is 02:23:43 because Sylvester stallone had done porn so sylvester stallone on the way out stole chuck wepner's notebook that he wrote in and that's where he took the idea for rocky is that true did you ever hear this i never heard that maybe it's true despite the fact that stallone was sued by wepner in 2003 for using his story for rocky he ultimately settled for an undisclosed amount of money in 2006 according to forbes seems to be in a good spirit about wetner's tale being told on the big screen in an interview with deadline chuck producer mike tolan said stallone was supportive of everyone involved reading the script and even showing up on set.
Starting point is 02:24:26 He and Liv had positive dialogue during shooting. They made a movie about Chuck. They did a movie about Chuck. Hmm. That's weird that he used his story for Rocky. So the idea was that he used his story when Chuck Wepner fought Muhammad Ali. Is that what you heard? That it was based on.
Starting point is 02:24:46 No, but it kind of makes sense that that would be based on because carl weathers was kind of like a muhammad ali character and rocky balboa was kind of like chuck wepner but if i remember that fight correctly i mean i remember muhammad ali beating the shit out of chuck wepner i don't remember it being like a close fight like they made didn't they make that fight a draw wasn't rocky did he did muhammad knock him out chuck what no no he beat him up he beat him up he didn't knock him out but i think he went i think he went 12 rounds it might have been 15 rounds my thing back when they were doing 15 matter of fact i think it did i think if i remember correctly it went to distance.
Starting point is 02:25:25 But again, my boxing knowledge is not like my MMA knowledge. It's like B-level. What year was that? It says 1975. It was billed as the give the white guy a break. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. They should have done that in Rocky.
Starting point is 02:25:45 He was knocked out in the 15th round. Okay, 15th round. So that's what I'm saying. It wasn't like Rocky. The story of Rocky is this guy who actually was a good fighter, but just never focused himself, decides to focus himself for this preposterous opportunity to fight for the title and actually hurts him.
Starting point is 02:26:03 Actually hurts him, and it's a draw at the end of the fight. It's a crazy fucking war and turns out to be a draw. That was not Chuck Wepner's story. I mean, unless he's part of Chuck Wepner's life. Well, he paid him. Yeah. He obviously paid him. He might have.
Starting point is 02:26:17 Something. Might have. There may be some truth to that fucking story. Maybe. And Stallone has always been known to have sticky fingers. He stuck his finger in the expendables. That was Eddie's story. Maybe. And Stallone has always been known to have sticky fingers. He stuck his finger in the expendables. That was Eddie's student. Yep.
Starting point is 02:26:29 And Eddie's student had to take him back. It was in those days. That's what they did, right? For people, what people don't know is there's a couple people who do that. They meet with a guy, Jamie. How you doing, Jamie? He's like, I got an idea. But the guy moves back to Columbus.
Starting point is 02:26:42 Also, the year later, Jamie turns the TV on, and there's this story on TV. Jamie takes him to court and wins. He even has the notes, the appointment that his agent made for him to meet Stallone. All Stallone has to shell him now is for the amount of the script. He doesn't have to give him proceeds of what he made.
Starting point is 02:27:00 So it's a tremendous scam if you do it and get away with it. Listen, I'm not bad mountain stallion. Let me tell you something. Every time those Rockies come on, I watch those fucking things. Yeah. And I am more and more baffled that they kind of still hold up. And what's really baffling about the Rockies is they keep on coming.
Starting point is 02:27:23 I mean, you know, they're writing another one. Creed. Yeah, Creed. Now that they got Michael B. Jordan. Yeah, you know. Did you see the video of Michael B. Jordan going through that tactical course? It's fucking badass, man. I don't know what movie he's preparing for, but he's preparing for some fucking crazy shoot-em-up movie, I guess.
Starting point is 02:27:41 You know, I did this. Taron Tactical. I did this thing with our boy, and I didn't know. Our boy, John Bernthal, was telling me that after movies he does, you've got to go there six months before Joe Rogan. He's going through one of these courses, like John Wick-style courses. Yeah, you've got to go through six months of this. It says it's for Black Panther.
Starting point is 02:28:03 So this is when he was in that movie, Black Panther. So he's preparing for it. He used a bunch of guns in that movie, though, so I don't know. Makes sense. Yeah, he did shoot a lot of guns in that movie. Yeah, he was a mercenary. Don't you remember? Michael B. Jordan was a killer in that movie.
Starting point is 02:28:17 I just remember the hand-to-hand fights, though, I guess. Yeah, well, there was that, too. But I'm sure there was some gunfights. And just to be able to handle it and look like this. I don't know enough about shooting to know if this looks good. It looks good to me, though. You know what I'm saying? Well, if you watch Tom Cruise in Collateral, when he goes into the Japanese bar in Koreatown or whatever it is, he's using tactical shooting.
Starting point is 02:28:44 Like it's real tactical. Yeah. I always knew that Tom Cruise was an ultimate professional. You know, that's why he gets $20, $80 million a movie, the whole deal. But when I talked to our boy, he was telling me, now that all these movies now, you go over there five, six months before the movie starts, and it's, you know, eight hours of training.
Starting point is 02:29:04 I mean, you got to give it up for your boy john wick oh yeah he's 56 he's doing five hours a day jujitsu he's doing jujitsu and he there's a bunch of scenes of him doing that same course he did it with a henry rifle one of those henry old school western rifle what are those called you know those little load them up ones where you flip your wrist down to reload? Remember when we were kids, we had those. The more you pumped them, the stronger the thing was. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, BB guns.
Starting point is 02:29:30 When you shot your grandmother, you pumped her like 80 times. Shit. If you hated the motherfucker, you'd start pumping that bitch at like 6 in the morning. You'd get it all full. That was the ultimate dangerous weapon to give to a kid, a fucking BB gun. We had everything. We had one of the, remember the wrist rockets? Yeah, I had a wrist rocket.
Starting point is 02:29:47 Was that what it was called? Yeah, they had those tubes, surgical tubes. Oh, my God. Yeah. I had a friend that lived on the second floor, and he would just peg off kids as they were walking home from school. Richie Vanecek. Oh, my God. He was in school, too, so he would run home from school, go on his second, third floor
Starting point is 02:30:06 attic, lay on the floor like a mercenary, and just shoot kids. They couldn't invest. Oh, my God. How funny was he? He would put nails in tables like these at school. So when people put their books down, they get caught by the nail. He was just a fucking nut. Now he's somewhere installing elevators
Starting point is 02:30:25 in Pennsylvania somewhere. Who the fuck knows? Wrist rockets are so dangerous. We used to use marbles. We used to take wrist rockets, buy a bag of marbles and get a wrist rocket. Yeah, because marbles, they fly consistently. You can get used to where the trajectory is going to go.
Starting point is 02:30:41 If you have a rock, who the fuck knows how much that rock weighs? This rock's heavier than that rock. It's hard to figure out where the trajectory is going to go. If you have a rock, who the fuck knows how much that rock weighs? This rock's heavier than that rock. It's hard to figure out where the fuck things are going. But when you get good with a marble, you understand that right here, I kind of can judge the arc of that marble. You can start nailing things. You can start nailing things.
Starting point is 02:30:58 Remember when you got your first marksman repeater? You ever get a marksman repeater? I never had one of those. A marksman repeater is pellets, BBs, and darts. I had one of those when I was about eight. My mother caught me, gave me a beat, and I had the fucking 007 knife. That's a knife from the 70s. They either sold them in Newark or in Harlem.
Starting point is 02:31:20 I remember 007s had a wooden handle. Wooden handle, nice and big. I had one of those. I used to get the the paint the jeans do you know when i was like by the third grade you know i used to get shaken down on the way out and then the way in do you know that because they were worried about you oh in the second grade before my mother put me in Catholic school, it was called Shakedown. Take socks off.
Starting point is 02:31:49 Wow, socks off. Like how much money you went out with. Is this Keanu? No, that's a Marksman repeater. Look at it. It was BBs, pellets, and that's where you put the darts up on TAR. You had a lot of fun with those. How many kids got shot by the cops holding that thing? None.
Starting point is 02:32:03 What are you talking about? None. None. None? That's the 70s. Nah. They would talk to you first before they shot you in the head. When did they start to shoot you? And they'd shoot you in the fucking leg back then. They were normal people because they were neighborhood
Starting point is 02:32:15 kids. In those days, the cops in your neighborhood, 60% were from that neighborhood. So they understood the person. They understood the kid. They knew he had mental health. Now they'll get somebody from Culver City and put him in San Diego. They don't know the area.
Starting point is 02:32:32 When we were growing up, especially when you were staying with your grandpa in Newark, all those cops grew up in Newark. Ah, the Rogans, they're fucking crazy. Don't worry about them. So when you go out over to the Rogans, you take your gun out. You don't point it at them right joe put the gun down so i see what you're saying like the cops were members of the community so they knew so they knew they weren't going into everything cold they weren't going into everything cold i think the people that have to worry the most are cops that pull people over because you just fucking never know do you see what happened
Starting point is 02:33:00 yesterday the cop the black dude north carolina or he was, I don't know where he was. I'm sorry if it's North Carolina. He was smoking a blunt. The cop pulled him over. He fucking dragged the cop. Grabbed him by the elbow. Jamie, I know you saw it on the news, dragged him twice.
Starting point is 02:33:18 Not once, but twice. The cop was trying to pull the gun. Then the cop shot him in the leg. Oh, Jesus. And he still dumped the cop off, and he got away. Wow. So he's out there with a hole in his leg? Yeah, no, they finally caught him.
Starting point is 02:33:30 He went into an ambulance, you know, how long. Look at this. So he's just smoking the blunt. Look at him. Right in front of the cop. The cop said he smelled marijuana. So... Oh, he's driving off. Is he holding on to him? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:50 On the side. Whoa. So the guy tried to drive off and he hung on. It looks like he hung on to the car. Am I correct there? I don't know. I don't know why I can't get the audio. Am I correct there? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:34:07 I don't know why I can't get the audio. That's when you... See, he's reaching for his gun now. Now look at that. Are those bullets? Yeah. I mean... He's driving off with them in the car. Look at him.
Starting point is 02:34:20 He just dumped them there, Joe Rogan. Oh, shit. 40 yards. He just dumped them there. And that guy fell over on the dirt. He probably fucked himself up there. Joe Rogan. Oh, shit. 40 yards. He just dumps him there. And that guy fell over on the dirt. He probably fucked himself up there. Yeah, he fucked himself up, that poor guy. So was he holding on?
Starting point is 02:34:33 It's like when the car takes off. Like, what is he doing? It looks like he's holding on. Is that an Escalade, Joe Rogan? I can't tell. So it usually has that. It looks like it. Yeah, it's an Escalade.
Starting point is 02:34:41 So they usually have that panel along the side where you put your leg up. Oh, so he's standing on it? That's what I think is going on. But he's holding onto the window, too. It looks like he's trying to hold. It looks like he's got his arm in. Well, by this time, he's holding onto his seatbelt. See?
Starting point is 02:34:57 He's got one foot up there right there. He's holding onto his seatbelt, you think? Yeah. No, it is. Look at him. Look at his seatbelt. Oh, that is what he has in his hand? Oh, that is what he has. Oh, yeah. That's what he has. So he's holding the seatbelt. Man,? Yeah, no, it is. Look at him. Look at his seatbelt. Oh, that is what he has in his hand? Oh, that is what he has.
Starting point is 02:35:05 Oh, yeah, that's what he has. So he's holding the seatbelt. Man, he's got his fucking gun out. And he shoots the guy? Not yet. When he goes to grab for his gun, is that when he shoots him? Because the dude does look like he,
Starting point is 02:35:18 at one point in time. Man, leave me the fuck alone. Look at his grill. I'm just trying to smoke my motherfucking blunt. What is going on with his teeth? Is that like some kind of iced out grill? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:35:28 Now that's when he starts, boom, he shoots him. Wow. But at least he shot him in the leg and not in the head. Right. No, right, right, right. But the whole thing seems rather crazy. He's hanging on with just a gun. Body dash cam shows Florida man driving,
Starting point is 02:35:48 of course it's from Florida, driving off with a deputy, dragging from his car after a traffic stop. The man is now facing an attempted murder charge. Okay, was he dragging the car or was the guy hanging on? Was the guy hanging on while he was trying to drive off? Was that the same?
Starting point is 02:36:09 I guess, yeah, but I mean, I don't know if he, if the cop's telling you to stop, you can't go, so like, he can't just drive away. He can't just drive away.
Starting point is 02:36:16 He can't be okay with that. And once the car starts moving and he's hanging on to the door, you are dragging him. Yeah. So he's hanging on to the seatbelt and they're dragging him. What's the matter?
Starting point is 02:36:25 You got a hundred fucking stitches. Well, he fucking, you know what I'm saying? The guy's walking around with a bandage today. The dude who got pulled over, though, he's hilarious. Play that again. His reaction, he just keeps puffing on the blunt. Come on, man. I skipped a minute of it, too.
Starting point is 02:36:40 I smell. Put that back on. Look at him. He goes, I smell marijuana. Man, what are you talking about? What? Look at him. He's hilarious I smell marijuana. Man, what are you talking about? What? Look at him. He's hilarious.
Starting point is 02:36:47 He's right out of a movie. Like, his teeth are so sparkly. Does he have a grill on? Can you tell? It looks like he's got some kind of iced up grill. Am I imagining that? Again, tell Joe Rogan what his name is. Rocco Ragucci.
Starting point is 02:37:02 He's got a wild name, too. That is hilarious. The whole thing is so funny. I hope the cop's okay. Rocky Money. That's his name? His name is Rocky Money? I told you. Rocky Money Rudolph. Damn, the cops done lit up.
Starting point is 02:37:20 Rocky Money Rudolph. Junior, the boot. Oh, that's hilarious. The best name I've seen in 14 years on the job yeah that's about as good as a name ever gets rocky money rudolph that poor cop went to work yesterday with a positive attitude and he gets fucking dragged they say he's smoking a black and mild, and the cop's like, I smell weed. And he's like, I don't have weed. I don't have marijuana. So is it just a cigar?
Starting point is 02:37:50 That's what he says. He says it's just a black and mild. There's a very distinct smell between a black and mild and marijuana. Well, maybe if you're some goofy cop who doesn't know. I think it's marijuana. Pull him over. What do you think it smells? What does a black and mild smell like?
Starting point is 02:38:06 Is that what it's called, black and mild? What does it smell like? It's strong. I don't know if it's compared to something I don't know. But yeah, it's a very strong, distinct smell. You can tell it between any cigar and a black and mild. You can pick it out. See, but I don't know that.
Starting point is 02:38:18 What if I had become a cop and I smelled that? Would I have to know what a black and mild smells like? He might have thought it was drugs. It doesn't smell like weed. What does it smell like? Thick cigarettes, tobacco-y smoke. Yeah, it doesn't smell anything like weed. You know what smells great?
Starting point is 02:38:33 Pipes. Like a nice fucking... It's closer to that kind of pipe-y smell, yeah. Isn't it interesting that the smell of tobacco from cigarettes is kind of gross? The smell from a cigar, not that bad. Smell from a pipe, a lot of people like that smell. Like a lot of people, like kids like the smell of pipes. Smells like some tobacco burning in a pipe actually smells good.
Starting point is 02:38:58 Weird. I like the smell of weed. Fuck all that shit. That pipe with nutmeg in it. Yeah. Those older guys used to, it's not around that much. I don't know that pipe with nutmeg in it yeah those older guys used to that smoke it's not around that much i don't know if it was nutmeg nutmeg's a real but what i'm saying is that drug when i was younger when i was in my teens it felt like people were smoking more pipes
Starting point is 02:39:18 at all the schools uh there was a teacher in my grammar school who smoked a pipe I still remember a teacher from my high school Vividly smoking a pipe I haven't seen anybody smoking a pipe Steven Crowder gave me one It's right here I smoked it when he was on the show Yeah, but he gave it to you for refit? No, no
Starting point is 02:39:35 He brought tobacco and everything How was it? It's not bad It's kind of a pain in the ass You gotta keep it lit You know, it's not something that just stays lit Like a joint You know, you gotta kind of keep What did it's not something that just stays lit like a joint. You know, you got to kind of keep.
Starting point is 02:39:46 What did it make you feel like? It's like tobacco. You know, it gives you that little high. It's a nice little buzz. Like cigars, I think, are the best version of that. Because a cigar stays lit. And you're getting it from the leaf, too. Because like your tobacco, your saliva, rather, is breaking down the tobacco.
Starting point is 02:40:03 Obviously, I'm not a scientist. But your saliva is doing something to the tobacco Obviously I'm not a scientist But your saliva Is doing something To the tobacco The leaf And it may Look at these little kids Smoking cigarettes
Starting point is 02:40:10 He's got a pipe This little kid's got a pipe Is that a pipe? Yeah I was just looking for kids Does the one on the left Have a cigarette? Yeah he's got a cigarette
Starting point is 02:40:16 Yeah This one's probably fake But Hello He's got a pipe Here here He's in the 50s and 40s Look at that kid smoking cigarettes
Starting point is 02:40:24 In the lower right-hand corner. Yeah, kids are smoking. That's like an 11-year-old. They were eating shit. Yeah. Newsies. Wow, look at that. All the kids selling newspapers.
Starting point is 02:40:32 They were all fucking addicted to cigarettes. Wow. Hey, do me a favor. Send me that picture. I want to try to get that picture printed up for the studio. That's like Little Rascals and shit. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 02:40:44 Yeah, save that picture. There's a better version. See if we can buy a copy of that. There was a kid in my neighborhood growing up in North Bergen. His name was Olsen. There was a family Olsen there. There'd be like 10 of them. Like Jimmy Olsen?
Starting point is 02:40:56 Yeah, they lived next to a body shop. By 13, he had already been smoking like fucking eight years. And I swear to God, he had already been smoking like fucking 8 years and I swear to god he had cavities so he would just put the cigarette in the tooth gaps and just leave it there and talk to you with the cigarette in the cavity
Starting point is 02:41:15 his teeth are green he's on Facebook now I talk to him from time to time but that's how bad in the 70s and 60s and and I think the 50s, kids were fucking smoking. Look at that ad. Give your throat a vacation. Smoke a fresh cigarette.
Starting point is 02:41:33 Camels. Holy shit. That's a doctor. A doctor's telling you to give your throat a vacation. Chesterfield cigarettes are just as pure as the water you drink. Wow. People were evil back then. They just lied.
Starting point is 02:41:48 Look at that one. More doctors smoke camels, what did it say, than any other cigarette. Look at them. Of course I smoke camels. I like to relax as much as anyone. Your T-zone will tell you T for taste, T for throat. Wow, he's crazy. He's going to rot out from the inside.
Starting point is 02:42:04 How old were you the first time you smoked a cigarette? Probably 14 or 15. What happened to you? I thought it was disgusting. I thought I was about like nine. I thought it was fucking horrible. I got dizzy and then I didn't turn the cigarette out. I almost lit the bathroom on fire.
Starting point is 02:42:19 My mother found out. No good. The next time I smoked one again was many years later. Adam Ferrara used to smoke and he gave me some of his cigarettes. We were doing some sketch. I don't remember exactly what it was about, but I was supposed to be smoking a cigarette in the sketch. I was supposed to be like some annoying poet smoking a cigarette. So I kept smoking a cigarette while we were practicing this thing. And I blasted it out of my mind.
Starting point is 02:42:45 Three, four cigarettes in, we just smoke them back to back to back, and you don't smoke. Oh, my God, the nicotine. I was like, this is crazy. This is what you're doing all the time? I was like, you're getting high all the time like this? A fact. Science advances new data that may completely change your idea of cigarettes. The experiences of camel smokers confirmed.
Starting point is 02:43:05 Camels can literally relieve fatigue and irritability. And that does it naturally too, it says. It's all good. And it does it naturally. Yeah, man. People just got sick. So crazy. Millions and millions
Starting point is 02:43:20 of people got sick from smoking. Just taking in a big drag of chemicals mixed with tobacco. They probably didn't mix the chemicals with them back then. Back then, it was probably just actual tobacco. All of these ads are really good. Smoke after strenuous exercise.
Starting point is 02:43:39 Smoke after strenuous exercise. That's hilarious. Asthmatic cigarettes. Imagine you got asthma. Someone gives you a pack of Kool's. Here, this will help you. Hey, what you need is Camel. No filters.
Starting point is 02:43:52 How about a Lucky Strike? Hilarious. How crazy is this? How crazy would it be if you took one of these ads? Like if you knew your grandfather died of cancer, and you took one of these ads and fucking took it to the cigarette companies got some bad ass attorneys and said you know what man look at what you guys were putting out in the 50s
Starting point is 02:44:13 and 60s doctors favorite cigarette is camel cigarettes are? Like, think about the ad. Think about how outrageous what we know today that ad is. Outrageous. It's fucking outrageous. Outrageous. It's so evil. Like, doctor's favorite cigarette. Because they're telling you doctors. They're not saying, like.
Starting point is 02:44:37 No. They're not saying, like, my accountant's favorite cigarette. They're not saying my police officer's favorite cigarette. They're saying doctors to let you know it's going to be okay because they know it's not going to be okay. And you know it's not going to be okay. No, you don't know. You don't know. You really don't know. You really don't know. You went to the movies. You're 10 years old. Your father gave you a nickel. You went to the movies and Marlon Brando was smoking a cigarette in the wild one. And all of a sudden you go home and you're like and you tell your friend wow that looks so cool and your friend goes smoking is bad for you and you're
Starting point is 02:45:10 like no i just saw an article four out of five doctors surveyed smoked camel fucking cigarettes and they lived to the 80s actually it's not bad for you. It can literally remove irritability. Nose, throat, and accessory organs not adversely affected by smoking Chesterfields. They did a six-month study, and they said nothing was different. First such report ever published about any cigarette. Oh, so it's Chesterfields. You just get them, and you're okay. Imagine if there was one cigarette that just had it nailed. I used to date a girl that worked at a crazy house
Starting point is 02:45:45 like where people go when they're crazy and she used to bring you know I was a pro comic she used to bring me home cigarettes I would smoke those cigarettes and go off the reservation uh oh like they were like low end cigarettes you gotta see the shit they put in there
Starting point is 02:46:01 like I could tell a visible difference from when I smoked a Camel or a Marlboro Light. Did you ever smoke Sherm? What's Sherm? Sherm. You know what Sherm is? No. Sherm was something they were doing where certain cigarettes they would dip in formaldehyde.
Starting point is 02:46:19 I smoked weed with formaldehyde. What's that like? Tremendous. It's just fucking tremendous. But I was into that shit at that time. That sherm supposedly turns people into a zombie. You take a joint, you dip half of it in formaldehyde or coat it. My friend would coat it.
Starting point is 02:46:39 Let it dry. Let it get hard. So crazy. And you'd smoke that shit. And it'd be 10 hours. What's up, Tammy? This says that when people were doing it, they would say it was embalming fluid
Starting point is 02:46:53 because it would make you turn into a zombie, but it was really just PCP. Really? They would call it embalming fluid. That's what the Urban Dictionary and some things that I'm looking up now call what it actually was. But did you look up SHRM? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:06 And that's what it says? So it's a hoax? I don't know that it's a – I'm sure some idiots probably did find some formaldehyde or embalming fluid and dip it in. Well, after all the bad press that PCP got, I could imagine that people would eventually be like, all right, listen, we've got to stop smoking PCP.
Starting point is 02:47:22 So they had to sneak it in things. Nobody had a good PCP experience. Another thing says the opposite of what I just said. I had 50 good ones. Good PCP experiences? But guys, to be honest with you, I didn't know I was doing PCP. They called it THC crystal. THC crystal?
Starting point is 02:47:40 Crystal. That's what it was called. THC crystal. How do you know it was PCP? Because years later, I found out THC crystal didn't fucking exist. Well, THC crystals is like the crystals off of wheat. So what they tell you at that time, you'd ask the dealer, like, where'd you get this from? Word on the street was you took stems, you threw them in a pot with boiling water,
Starting point is 02:48:01 and when it comes to a head, the stuff that stays to the edge, you scrape that off. Yeah. And you put it into a powder form, and that's what you're snorting. That was the word on the street. But what it really was was PC fucking P. It was animal tranquilizer. Oh, so they were just saying that so they could sell it. So they could sell it.
Starting point is 02:48:21 And then when you go into New York City city in the 80s when you went to the weed spots yeah they sold two types of weed but they also called the thing sold the thing called trays trays trays that's a three dollar bag oh so when you paid they would sell you an uh a ten dollar bag a sense of me you got five joints or something then they would have like a special twenty dollars for buddha tie and you would get three joints two and a half joints tight joints and me, you got five joints or something. Then they would have like a special $20 for Buddha Thai, and you would get three joints, two and a half joints, tight joints. And then for the tray, you'd get a tight joint of this white powder that looked like a line of Coke when you put it on the table.
Starting point is 02:48:56 So what you did was you rolled your joint, and you took that white line, you sprinkled it in the joint, you smoked it, bye-bye Irene. Bye-bye Irene. And they always smoked it. Bye-bye, Irene. Bye-bye, Irene. And they always gave it a weird name, like Jim Jones. Oh, Jesus. At the time after he drunk, you know what I'm saying? After he killed all those people?
Starting point is 02:49:13 Yeah. So they would give it weird names. Jim Jones. How crazy was that? Suicide. They would give it all these weird names. Jim Jones named the town Jonestown. That's when the cops move in.
Starting point is 02:49:27 When you name a town after yourself, like, what are you doing? I'm just running Vernonville. And not just a town, but in Guyana. Yeah. And made people sell everything and move. That's just a horrific fucking... You know who's been to Guyana a bunch of times?
Starting point is 02:49:40 Steve Rinella. You know who he is? Yeah, yeah. He's been on my podcast from the show Meat Eater. Yeah, he's recorded a bunch of times, Steve Rinella, you know who he is? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been on my podcast from the show Meat Eater. Yeah, he's recorded a bunch of episodes in Guyana living with the people that live in the jungle. Fascinating shit. Fascinating. Watching how those people live and he's interacting with them and hanging out with them and bow fishing with them and shit.
Starting point is 02:49:58 Just wild, man. They found pictographs on a rock that's on a river. They have no idea who made them No idea how old they are Just sitting there Just probably a thousand years old They don't know what they mean Just some people from an ancient time ago In Guyana
Starting point is 02:50:12 Wrote this shit on a rock And you can still see it today I want to see what that fucking place Looks like that Jim Jones had now They just did a I wonder what they do with it Once everybody No it's just a jungle there
Starting point is 02:50:23 It just grew out Just grew over They went back And they re-dug up the old stage. He had a landing strip too, right? Yeah, that's where he shot the hot dog. I still remember being a little kid and them showing the guy getting shot. The federal agent? The camera falling.
Starting point is 02:50:39 No, the governor or the senator. They always showed the shot of the camera going down. The reporters were about to get on the plane, and then a truck pulled up, and guys just opened fire on them. And the guy fell with the camera rolling. Wow. The lady's still alive. The senator, the woman, the assistant.
Starting point is 02:50:59 She got shot? She got shot. Woman got shot. The congressman, whoever, the congressman, the senator, whoever got, he died, but her assistant lived and somebody else lived. And they just got interviewed. It was either the anniversary or some shit. I hate all that shit. I can't see the people he took down there.
Starting point is 02:51:19 He just, I don't know. Cults are dangerous. I don't know. Cults are dangerous. It's very dangerous when one person wants to be the only one to talk and tell you what to do and make the rules and be special. When you've got that one person that gathers a group of people and has all those people listen to him without question and tries to say that he has the answers. For whatever reason, that's appealing to people. It's very weird when people fall into that trap over and over and over again we have a strong confident man who is telling you what you know and then you see them
Starting point is 02:51:51 giving into the power and for whatever reason it makes it even more attractive to a certain segment of the population when you see someone reveling in the power of being a cult leader like uh i guarantee you when that guy inaco, what the fuck was his name? Koresh. Correct, David Koresh. I guarantee you, when he was on the news and talking about how they'll never give up, girls were probably beating down his door trying to get in that cult. The crazier and the nuttier and the more apocalyptic your message,
Starting point is 02:52:22 the more people that want to join. It's weird. And they just don't have the ability to discern. Oh, this is not a good idea. This guy really doesn't have his head on straight. This guy might be fucking completely crazy. And they've always realized those things are fuck fest anyway. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 02:52:36 Nine out of ten, that guy's slinging dick. He's got a third chance. Koresh did that? Yeah, Koresh. Koresh banged everybody's wife. Yeah, he had kids. Yep. I had a friend who grew up in a cult, and the stories were fucking horrific.
Starting point is 02:52:47 I know the friend. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, horrific. So you look at this shit, and you're like, I don't. Fucking dangerous. Anytime someone is running any kind of thing where they've got to separate you from everybody else, come to us. We're going to get you away from all those people. It never goes well. It fucking from all those people it never goes well
Starting point is 02:53:05 it fucking never goes well it never goes well they want control they want control and control of you and the best way to do that is get you away from all these other pesky people with all their questions they don't know but we know we know what's really going on we know what this is really all about. Next thing you know, you're in a cult. How many cults are going on right now that we don't know about? Is it like a gang of them that are just like bubbling under the surface? There was that one they found out about last year, right?
Starting point is 02:53:36 That was in New York. Nexum? Yeah, something like that. That's surreal. They're throwing motherfuckers in jail over that one. Yeah, the Nexum one is a weird one, right? Because it was legit actors in it. Actors and Nexum one is a weird one, right? Yeah, they're throwing motherfuckers. Because it was legit actors in it.
Starting point is 02:53:46 Actors and actresses. That was a sex cult, right? They're all sex cults. They should stop saying sex cults, right? Sex cults. Is there a no sex cult? No sex cults, it's like Buddhists. They go, okay, yeah, do whatever you got.
Starting point is 02:54:01 Just think about that. A guy who tells you he's God, blah, blah, blah, behind the lens. You let him fuck your wife. Crazy. Take her away in the middle of the night. And she comes back the next day smelling like cock and God knows what else. And you have to still respect the guy and call him God and whatever the fuck they do. It's such a sick, sick fucking mind.
Starting point is 02:54:22 It's sick. And you have to be in such a weak state as a human being to really buy into that. You can't call them, you know, you can't call it. They're just in a fucked up weird state. Maybe they had a void in their life somewhere, and this is the way by filling it in. I don't see it. I can never join a cult. Well, there's a bunch of different things that could go wrong with a leader.
Starting point is 02:54:46 And you've got to give them your money. You've got to sell your house. All those people that went to Jonestown had to sell their homes, whatever they had, and give their money to him. Did you see Wild Wild Country? Wild Wild Country, no. Oh, Joey. What is it? It's a Netflix documentary about the Pacific Northwest cult.
Starting point is 02:55:04 Oh, okay. joey what is it it's a netflix documentary about the pacific northwest cult oh okay rock niche guy the guy that eventually went on to um he found this this crazy cult and he went on to buy this town up there i heard about it it's fucking amazing i do listen we live around so much stupidity why watch it when sit there and watch it on tv it's really good though the documentary is incredible it's so well done and this sheila lady who's running things she's poisoning people and shit it's crazy they they poison people she did all kinds of crazy stuff it was uh it's wild they shipped homeless people in to vote so they could take over the town they just brought homeless people in from everywhere just picked them up come and the homeless people like yay vote so they could take over the town. They just brought homeless people in from everywhere. Just picked them up. And the homeless people were like, yay, we found a home.
Starting point is 02:55:48 And some of them were like really into it. And they're like, alright, we're done with you. Get the fuck out of here. They kicked him out after they took over the home. Everyone in the town that lived there before them fucking hated them. They had their own police force, armed guards. I mean, guys armed
Starting point is 02:56:03 to the dick, okay? just carrying machine guns and shit. Talk. How the fuck is it 2 o'clock? Because that's what always happens with us. How the fuck? I thought it was like 1 o'clock. No. Maybe 1230.
Starting point is 02:56:16 Joey, we have fun. This is crazy. I've known you for 23 years, man. Maybe more. 22. When did you get here? What year? 97.
Starting point is 02:56:29 Was it 97? Yeah. Yeah. 22 years. That's a long time. It's crazy to go to the store and see what we're walking around around and how long we've been there for. Every time I go down there, I get a fucking anxiety attack. Really?
Starting point is 02:56:44 Yeah. I get anxiety. I can't believe I'm still there, I get a fucking anxiety attack. Really? Yeah, I get anxiety. I can't believe I'm still there. It's still so fun. I got a home. Sometimes I just sit back by the ice cube machine and look and go, how lucky am I that I got a fucking home? But I got a boogie. I know you do. I got a boogie.
Starting point is 02:56:59 Let's wrap this bitch up. I got a boogie and a fucking pee. All right. I'm an old man. Both. I love you, brother. I love you, too. Happy Fourth of July All right. I'm an old man. Both. It's great to see you. Love you, too. Happy Fourth of July to everybody.
Starting point is 02:57:08 Charlotte, next week, you dirty bitches. I'm excited. Thank you to everybody that came to Atlantic City and Baltimore, too. We had a great time. We fucking Columbus. We didn't talk about Baltimore, the Borgata, or the food in Baltimore, and Borgata, or John Rallo. Yeah.
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