The Joe Rogan Experience - #1321 - Robert Oberst

Episode Date: July 8, 2019

Robert Oberst is a professional strongman who competes yearly in The World's Strongest Man competition. He's can also be seen on the History Channel's "The Strongest Man In History" premiering July 10 at 10pm ET.

And... Boom, and we're live. What's happening, baby? What's up, Joe? How are you, brother? I'm feeling great, man. Thanks for having me. You're looking great. Thanks, brother.

You're looking rather large. I threatened Joe before the show. I said, you need to start off and tell me how beautiful I am. Strong and pretty. Yeah. Is that your t-shirt company? Yeah, that's my clothing company. It's all through Bunker Branding, and basically that's where I'm at.

Try to keep this like a fist from your face. There we go. I'm just afraid everyone's going to hear me breathe like a fat guy. Do you do any cardio? I do, most certainly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you watched Strongman on ESPN? So when you pull a truck that's 70,000 pounds,

you pull it for 100 feet with a harness restraining your chest like like not expulsion but your chest expansion is that's that's the hardest cardio i've ever done i played football for a long time so i mean yeah i can only imagine but i was i was thinking that like you have to have some cardiovascular strength to do some of those routines some of the some of the different challenges that you guys have to do? For sure. And normally Worlds will start with what we call a load medley. So you'll have normally four implements. You'll have two kegs and two sandbags. And the kegs will both weigh 265 pounds and the sandbags will be 330.

That's what we did last year, which was fucking brutal. But you'll have to load each one of them onto a platform that's about 60 feet away. So if you get going, it's not just cardio. You have to have diaphragm strength too. Like if you've got a weak diaphragm, you're just going to fold. I've seen guys black out, and I've seen guys black out at World's Strongest Man. So how does one strengthen their diaphragm? What we do, the normal exercise we did, it doesn't really have a name.

It's just kind of something we made up. You'll lay on your back and you take like a sandbag and put it over your upper abdomen. And you'll expand, you'll push out really hard. And you try and hold it for like, say, like two minutes. And you learn to take tight little breaths while flexing your upper upper abdominal abdominals whoa i can spoke so you've got the weight on you right and you just and you stay flexed and it's it's like you know how you see fighters taking punches like just to keep tight yeah same similar thing and so like me i i i have a big barrel gut like a big chest and gut but like it's solid i

literally get like i'll brag a little bit i've got side abs in the morning sometimes you know actually i gotta say this i the best compliment i was ever given i put up a post and it was me drinking coffee in the morning just naked but like from like the hip up and somebody gave me a compliment that's actually comes from something you said they said damn robert's got a really good dick root i think i invented dick root dick roots when those dudes i don't understand why dudes do that they wear their shorts so low that you basically see the top of their cock you see the root they've got nothing else to show so that's a weird weird move if you google dick root

that's all it comes up is just me i think i invented it i appreciate it it was a very nice compliment congrats on the dick root bro it's just a weird thing that i mean when did guys start doing i get girls doing it i get it right i just don't get guys pulling their shorts all the way down low like that seems like you're just asking to get pantsed like i don't understand like sagging i guess it like it comes out of prison culture from what i heard i but i i hate it now but i feel like an old man because i used to do it as a kid you used to sag well i grew up in an area it was like it was a very uh low income like area i don't know how to say that politically correct. That's the way to say it.

There you go. Low-income. So everybody was sagging. Do you have boxer shorts underneath? Oh, for sure. That's what you have to have, right? Yeah, you learn. See, when you start off with tighty-whities and then everyone makes fun of you,

then you're like, oh, right, right. So you switch to boxers. What a weird style. Yeah. I ran out of that by the time I was like 12, though. I was like, this is ridiculous. Well, my problem is if somebody grabs your pants, you're done. You're going to have to reach for your pants, and then they're going to punch you in the face.

You're like asking. You're at a handicap. Yeah. You sound exactly like my father right now. It's like exactly what he would say you're gonna get your ass kicked yeah i have friends that tried it like even 10 15 years ago like guys my age i was like what in the fuck are you doing it's too late you don't the thing now is skinny jeans and sagging which is like a counterproductive in a way like it just doesn't

seem like it goes together right they're trying to combine styles they don't understand what they're doing. Right. Yeah. Well, I mean, if they've got a good enough dick root, then maybe that's what it is. They just got to show

the quad. Do you wear regular jeans or do you wear the stretchy type jeans? These are stretchy. Revtown jeans? Yeah. These are stretchy for sure.

I love those, man. You can move. You can't go back to regular jeans. Right. Once you wear like Revtowns or Barbells or any of those kind of things, you fuck all those regular jeans. You can't go back to regular jeans right once you wear like rev towns or you know barbells or any of those kind of like you fuck all those regular jeans you can't man no i mean i've

ripped so many jeans just getting sitting down you know i think with your size like it must be fucking so hard to just find clothes right and no and i'm built differently like my waist is a is like a 40 but my end seems like a 34 and so normally like if you find a 40 waist it's like a 28 or a 30 leg so it's like for a shorter like chubby guys yeah so yeah you can still say fat guys and no one gets mad if you say fat girls people like hey yeah don't be so insensitive but fat guys don't catch a break you can give a fuck about fat guys deal with the fat guys fucking deal with it fat guys are happy they're fat. You can take it. Nobody gives a fuck about fat guys. Deal with it, fat guys. Fucking deal with it. Fat guys are happy they're fat sometimes.

That's true. That's the difference. Fat girls will pretend they're happy they're fat, but they're really sad on the inside. So there you go. But fat guys, especially if they drink, they're like, ah. Like Burt Kreischer. Burt Kreischer does not seem to give a fuck that he's fat. No.

He does not have a problem with it. No. Takes his shirt off the moment he gets on stage. Doesn't care. He'll do it on daytime TV. Yes. If he doesn't, people get mad at him. No. He does not have a problem with it. No. Takes his shirt off the moment he gets on stage. Doesn't care. He'll do it on daytime TV. Yes. If he doesn't, people get mad at him.

Yeah. If he doesn't take his shirt off, people are like, hey, come on. You're the fat guy that gets naked. Get naked. Where's your shirt? Dance, monkey. Yeah. Take it off. That's part of your gig.

It's like, what's his name? Gallagher without a watermelon. Yeah. No sledgehammer? Get the fuck out of here. Speaking of him, what are you guys thinking for Sober October? Weagher without a watermelon. Yeah. No sledgehammer? Get the fuck out of here. Speaking of him, what are you guys thinking for Sober October? We really haven't decided yet.

Burt wanted us to do some dance contests so he could suck my dick because he wanted to do that so he could just win without working hard. I get it. Or just take his clothes off. I'm getting crazy. I'm going to win.

Ooh. Right. No chance. But listen, how about this? What if they found a way to like score a dance thing and like so there is no judgment and it was like points based on athletic types of movements or something like that i'm sure like the internet could come up with a way that it's like because i understand what you're saying and what you're saying makes total sense about how like you earn that shit you

want it to be regulated not someone's's opinion. Especially last year, because last year we literally were killing ourselves. We were working out seven hours a day, and I was just trying to grind those guys in the ground. I was like, I'm just going to take you to deep water and see. It was awesome, man. I loved it. I fucking loved it. I couldn't stop watching. Well, Burt was talking shit, and that's when I was like, oh, I cannot have this guy win.

This is not going to happen. That's where you fuck up. I knew Ari was going to be a problem because he's crazy. Ari tried really hard, but he doesn't have a lot of experience grinding like that. So he did his best. He hung in there. You're a vet with that shit. Yeah, Bert's trying to win this with fucking style points.

He can fuck off. No. No, I think if somebody can come up with a way that dancing is like regulated in a point system that does nothing to do with people's opinion to where like it's i don't know even how you would do that where it's like there's an athletic type of movement that's required for this so learning that takes this and gives you that it gives you points that's the only way it would even work where it wasn't based on someone's opinion. It's too much time, too. That's the part of the problem.

It's like learning how to dance. I did a movie once, Zookeeper, and I had to learn how to do this elaborate dance with Leslie Bibb. That shit took forever. It took weeks. And you were constantly training and drilling and going over the movements. And I don't even like that kind of dance. It's not like if I'm doing martial arts and i'm training i'm interested that's why i love that i want to i want to get better at it i didn't want to get better at dancing i just wanted to be over

i just wanted to film the scene so i could fucking relax yeah you know move on yeah so i don't know what we're gonna do we haven't decided well we're all waiting yeah i said we should have a hold your breath competition oh that'd be cool yeah underwater that takes practice i mean i think you guys have you have to add something in my favorite part of it was seeing you be like no fuck this like we'll all go to the gates of hell yeah that's me like if someone if someone i love talking trash right that's that's my thing and in strongman it's not very popular like when i got in oh no they don't it's very old school like you're supposed to do your work not act like you're supposed to get paid not act like you're

supposed to want any attention not draw any attention towards yourself really it's like it's like karate in like 1960 you know like it's old school you know be respectful of the way and i totally get that i i understand that and it i mean i don't think anyone can get to the top echelon without having that respect but it's it's ridiculous for for people who've never been at that on that uh on that level to tell other people how they're supposed to behave. Right. If I want to talk shit, I'm going to talk shit. I do. Like, I was talking shit to you when we first started coming out. That's just what we do.

Yeah, it's fun. Talking shit is fun. And also, it's like, I feel like that makes it more entertaining, and we want more eyes on the sport. Exactly. I mean, that's my argument about the UFC. I always like it when people talk some shit. Right.

And win or lose, sometimes you have to eat that. Like, what's that kid that- Ben Askren. Exactly. The flatline. That was brutal. But, I mean,

he also took that on the chin. He put up a post like right after that. Like, well, that sucked. Yeah. He takes it on the chin better than anybody. He's got a great personality.

And Masvidal said, it's not even over. Masvidal said, listen, he goes, I don't like that dude. He goes, if I see him at Whole Foods, he's getting smacked up. Oh, shit like can you imagine the guy flatlines you with the

fucking fastest ever ko in ufc history and he's promising you that if you're looking for brussels sprouts he's gonna smack you in the face yeah oh man he already gave him two extra shots to the face which by the way people are giving him shit for it it's that's his job yes it's go till the referee stops you well especially when there's a heated contest like that where you you talk so much shit and he insulted masvidal's manhood he talked about his ethnicity he said a lot of shit that really pissed masvidal off right and he's like why and he had a statement about it's like why is it okay to talk all this shit online about me before the fight but then after i knock him out i'm i'm not supposed to showboat i'm not supposed to celebrate get the

fuck out of here if you got a problem with it stop them winners get to do what they want he's ice cold man when he said and it's not over if i see he's getting smacked i was like oh my god that is so intense savage savage that move though was so brilliant because Askren always grabs your legs. And if you get that close to him, he's going to think almost like he has to grab you. Right. It's his instinct. And you saw him, like, I saw somebody put a video up of him practicing it. He rounded out to the outside and then acted as if it was going to be just a normal step.

And then it's two quick steps on the knee. Oh, and you see how stiff he was before he hit the – I'm sure you saw, but damn, he was stiff. Yeah, his head was up and one leg was up. I mean, he was stiff. Yeah, brutal. That was a – here he is practicing. Yeah.

Yeah. That was an absolutely ruthless KO. And it's the fastest ever UFC KO at five seconds, but really he was out cold at two Oh yeah yeah yeah It just took the ref a few seconds to get there Yeah whatever maybe three I guess maybe I mean whatever it took for him to run over there

It seems like two seconds It was like one one thousand two It's over Out Yeah Fuck Well at least he got a lot of face time before he got in the ring Yeah

You ever thought about fighting? as big as you are? No. I mean, I messed around with wrestling and stuff. I worked with Jon Jones with the supplement company for a while. Oh, really? Yeah. And I know a lot of fighters. I know a lot of old school wrestlers.

I've got a lot of friends in the industry, but I'm fucking. Old school wrestler wrestlers or pro wrestlers? Pro wrestlers. Sorry.lers pro wrestlers so yeah yeah they're totally different thing yeah just it's but still that would be a great avenue for you too right i did think about that for a while too it's just uh contractually it's just it's a shit show i'm sure like injuries and all that stuff too would take you out of competition but plus they want when i'm at now i started and worked my ass off just to get a little piece of that pie. And when you go to the WWE or something like that, you have to step back all the way to the ground level.

You have to earn your stripes. And I understand that, but I have a son. I have a family. I take care of people. I can't give up everything that I've earned, like basically breaking myself for five years just to crawl back up and hopefully end up where I am. But it's a cool thing. I was a big fan of wrestling when I was a kid back in the day, and I love watching it.

One of my buddies right now, a guy who was a strong man with me, his name's Braun Strowman, and he's in the WWE. He's a badass badass so i love watching him do it sometimes do you uh follow puginowski fighting in mma i haven't i haven't seen a lot of his mma stuff i know i know him and he's still active he's he's freaking crazy he's fucking people up too man he's he's really getting better like when he first started fighting he was just this giant dude who was just swinging arm punches, and if he hit you, he would fuck you up. But he got crazy, and he decided to fight Tim Sylvia,

who was a former UFC heavyweight champion, and Tim beat the shit out of him. It was horrible. Wow. I don't know why he thought he could beat Tim Sylvia. He thought that Tim was washed up or older. How old is Tim now? How long has he been out of the game?

He's definitely in his 40s. I don't know. How old is Tim now? How long has he been out of the game? He's definitely in his 40s. I don't know. How old is Tim? Tim's giant now. He's probably 400 pounds. 43. See, that's me. I'm 400 pounds.

I can't cut both my legs off to make 265. I think that's so weird that they have a 265 cutoff because heavyweight is supposed to be the biggest guy. Right. Like in boxing, you remember that dude Valuev who fought, who did he fight? Did he fight Holyfield? He was like seven feet tall, this giant ass Russian dude. He was fucking enormous, this boxer, but he was well over 300 pounds. Seven foot tall, he'd be skinny at 300.

Yeah, but he was big, man. He had gigantitis Or whatever it is When you have a pituitary gland tumor Yeah What is that See if you can find that guy Valuev

Oh yeah I think he fought Holyfield I think Holyfield beat him for the title Which is even crazier When you think that Holyfield Started his career at 190 He started his career as a cruiserweight Really

195 pounds I didn't know that Yeah Yeah that's it Here's the guy look at this evander holyfield and value of and this is in 2008 look at the size of that guy man i mean get the fuck out of here he's so big man but i think when guys are that big like with that giant titus or gigantitis they're always hurting like everything hurts your knees hurt your elbows it's like you can't really move that good yeah i knew a lot of guys andre the giant was my hero

growing up like he was like my first real hero and um i knew a lot of guys who had known him i actually met uh roddy roddy piper like three weeks before he passed and i was wearing an andre the giant shirt and we we got to sit in the VIP section at a baseball game. And he was badass, man. He was so fucking cool. I wanted to get that guy on the podcast. And Tony Hinchcliffe was actually trying to set it up. But then he died.

Yeah. He used to go to the comedy store a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He even went on stage a couple times there. Yeah. He would just tell stories, man.

He was awesome. He was like one of the first guys also to cross over in the movies obviously andre was first he did a few guest spots yeah yeah but uh he was a star of they live remember that which is a the john carpenter movie that's a great fucking movie huge yeah so he was in that too cool yeah he was a fun guy man yeah we're actually um're actually, what we're doing, basically the reason I was here to talk about a TV show, this next season, season two, we're going to do, so I'll start over. The whole TV show is based on us doing acts of strength

for strongmen throughout history. What is the name of the show called? History's Strongest Man. Strongest Man in History. And this is an ESPN show? It's on History. Oh, it's on History Channel? Oh, that's awesome.

So one of the episodes next season we're hoping to do is Andre the Giant, which we're going to talk about. But what we do is we travel to where a historical strongman lived or where he did this famous feat of strength. And we recreate those feats of strength and we kind of talk about who they are as people and stuff and bring to light like a lot of the the cool aspects that most people lose so like it'd be cool to you know take somebody like andre the giant and like meet with his daughter and figure out like little parts that people haven't really paid attention to and bring that to light and we did um one of my favorite episodes we did was this guy, Peter Francisco, who was – he was born in – I think it was Columbia. Am I mistaken? Peter Francisco.

There we go. The Virginia Giant in Portugal. There you go. So he was born to like a wealthy family and was kidnapped and sold as a slave. And he ended up in America and at 16 he signed he signed up to fight in the Revolutionary War. He was 6'7", 6'8", just this giant of a man, especially 1776. Wow. Yeah, there was nobody that big back then. Huge.

You know, a lot of people don't realize Jack Johnson, the former heavyweight champion who they called the Galveston Giant, I think he was only 6'3 See Or 6'2 Pull up Jack Johnson See how big he was Towered over everybody else

He fought Yeah Like Rocky Marciano Was 185 pounds 189 pounds Like somewhere around there See It says he was only

6 foot tall But What That's what Google Popped up from His like Wikipedia Hmm I think he was a little

Taller than that But he was a giant back then. Right. They called him the Galveston Giant. Well, everybody was so poor then. They didn't have any food. Right. You know, the turn of the century.

Yeah, everybody's struggling. Six foot tall. That's crazy. See? That's crazy. Joe Lewis was 6'2", Jack Dempsey 6'1". Wow. And Marciano, I think, was 5'10".

I think Marciano was 5 was 510 five times believe is five i think marciano is 510 185 pounds it's crazy because jack johnson towered over everybody and was fucking everybody up i mean it's a food thing man no one had any fucking food back then if you look at the size of the people that fought during the civil war they were tiny ass people right like really tiny like 125 pound men i didn't even go back further All the skeletons Like look at that picture of him Like they're making it out

Like he's giant Like look at the figure On the right Like look at his back Look at his back He is pretty jacked But yeah sure I mean he's definitely jacked

For I mean look He's big But I mean in comparison To a real heavyweight today No Like if you put him Next to Anthony Joshua

Right You know like Joshua Would be towering Or Deontay Wilder Who was 6 Was he 6'7 But, I mean, in comparison to a real heavyweight today, like if you put him next to Anthony Joshua, like Joshua would be towering over Deontay Wilder, who was 6'7". Yeah. Yeah. Or Francis Ngannou, you know, big giant dudes, real legit giant dudes, people that weren't that big back then. So that guy, the wrestler, the Portuguese guy, that must have been unbelievable to see someone that big back then.

Insane. Yeah. Well, as cool as like there's a unbelievable to see someone that big back then. Insane. Yeah. And what was cool is like, there's a lot of cool things that you find out. Like George Washington had a quote on his gravestone that was said that, uh, there were several battles that we would not have had go the same way. And we don't know if we would have even been able to win the war if it wasn't

for him. It was a one man army. And for George Washington to say that, that's huge. That's crazy. So it was cool to get to talk about him and all the things he had done and for george washington to say that that's huge that's crazy so it was cool to get to talk about him and all the things he had done and uh bring you know show a little love for a guy who i'd never even heard of you know and like there was the story he was on the battlefield and uh he was pulling people off of horses and like basically beating them to death because he

ran out of bullets and then as he goes marching up towards this guy who pulls his musket out to shoot at him and the musket misfires he takes the musket from him and beats him to death with his own musket oh my god stuff like that or when the when the battle was over they had a cannon stuck in the mud and this is one of the feats of strength we did they had a cannon stuck in the mud and he didn't want the british to end up with it so he just yanks the thing off of the wheels puts it on his shoulder and marches off with it how much did it weigh it depends depends on the story that you believe when when we went i don't want to get too much into it but when we went that's the biggest question was because anybody who's ever lifted a bunch of

weight and thrown things around it's like that sounds pretty crazy because cannons can go from anywhere of like like a normal field cannon will be like 300 pounds. But they've got field cannons from that era that are 1,000 pounds. And depending on who tells the story, that's what we try and figure out with it. How the fuck would you even get that on your shoulder if it's in the mud? Exactly. So you stay in the mud so you don't have a firm ground to push off against. Right.

So we're in the squashing around the mud and you got this giant cannon you're trying to throw on your shoulders no handles fucking a man and right after battle too the guy was the guy was a savage it was it was really cool and like afterwards he he ended up a wealthy man and was taken care of and you know and it was it was a really cool story so story. So I was actually pretty proud to get to tell that one. That's awesome. A lot of them were like that. How did you get involved with doing strongman competitions? I played football.

I played football for a long time. And then football was done with me. And basically, I didn't want to have a real job. Just to be totally honest. I'm not a 9-to-5 sit-in-an-office guy. I don't want to have a real job. Just to be totally honest. I'm not a 9 to 5 sitting in an office guy. I don't think anybody is. I don't think so either. I really don't.

No, it's a terrible way to live. And there's people listening right now. They're like, that's what I'm doing. Fuck this place. Get out. Get out while you can. Get out. I'm telling you.

I convinced one of my best friends to quit his job and come with me to China for a week. And then, of course, you have to struggle and find your way. But then after that, it was the best thing he's ever done. Definitely better off being a nomad. Yeah. Just find something. You'll feel better, you know? Exactly.

Like I was talking to a friend of mine today about Thailand. When I went to Thailand last year kind of like reshaped my idea of like what makes people happy because everybody over there is wearing flip-flops and fucking shorts everything is real cheap food's real cheap there's no extravagance and everybody's happy and like uh my friend John Wayne Parry says it's the land of smiles that's what he calls it and I was like okay he lived there and trained there for a long time but I'm like well I I didn't get it until I went there and like god damn it everybody's happy but you'll drive by you'll see like a fucking kid a baby sitting on the gas tank of a motorcycle while a guy's driving

and the lady's behind him and she's she's holding on to the guy's waist and he's like got one hand on the handlebars and one hand on a baby and i'm like what in the fuck am i saying they're wearing flip-flops yeah and they're just everyone's happy i haven't been to thailand but it's like that in parts of china like rural rural parts of china it's a lot like that i've seen like people tied to each other on a on a motorcycle just so that people wouldn't fall off oh jesus what a terrible idea so. Bill Burr sent me a fucking horrible video yesterday of this guy. These two guys are riding like assholes on a bridge with motorcycles, weaving in and out of traffic. And one guy loses control of the bike, and he hits the cement barrier on the edge of the bridge and then goes off the edge. Oh, my God.

Yeah, just watch it. Bang. Woo. And he flies off. It's like all I've been seeing The last week too We just did this Oh here it is Jamie got it already

Jamie's the fastest Guler in the west You're on it See these guys are Flying Look at this Boom Oh he touched too

You see him put his foot down And try and collect himself Watch Yeah and watch when you see When they pull over And you get to look At how far this motherfucker Dropped

Like he's done Oh shit That is That is That guy's got his hand and you get to look at how far this motherfucker dropped. He's done, Zwill. Shit. That is, that is. That guy's got his hands in his pockets. Of course it's Florida. Looks like it. Sure it's Florida, fucking assholes. It's gotta be Florida.

He probably landed right on an alligator. He would have been fine. Yeah. But now he's chewed up. I read a story in Florida about a. It was in Tampa It was Tampa, Florida

Of course Called it Of course man Florida's a fucking mess man I was there for two weeks I was scared shitless The whole time I've been everywhere

It's Florida I was like paying attention To everyone walking around People on bath salts Eating people's faces Exactly Everything fucked up Happens there

They just issued A shoot to kill On iguanas They're trying to get people To kill as many iguanas Apparently there's people's faces exactly everything fucked up happens there they uh they just issued a shoot to kill on iguanas they're trying to get people to kill as many iguanas apparently there's so many iguanas there that they're digging holes under bridges and roads and roads are collapsing yeah buildings are collapsing because they're digging they're digging trenches under the foundations that's so crazy and they're big like five feet long what do you got what's the smile on his face florida iguana hunter mistakes pool boy for iguana shoots him florida you gotta get your shit together guys come on not going to happen my sister lives in

florida she's probably listening to this laura get out of there run run for your lives it's a fucking goofy place to live man it really is it lives. It's a fucking goofy place to live, man. It really is. It's so crazy. It's a goofy place to live. But for people like chaos and partying, it's fun. Yeah. That's what it's all about.

Yeah. My friend Billy Corbin, he made Cocaine Cowboys 1 and 2. He fucking loves it down there. And he's a smart guy. And he lives in Miami and he just fucking loves it. He enjoys the chaos yeah i mean i guess if you can separate yourself enough that you don't feel crazy on the inside i don't know how you can i couldn't do that here in la like i mean la is not even a quarter of that

but like i lived in playa del rey and in sherman oaks for two and a half years and i was like i gotta get the fuck you know what the problem with this place is? There's so much instability because there's so many people that want to be something other than what they are. Right. That's a big part of this place. Yeah. Whereas you live in Texas now. Yeah.

Those are people. Yeah. Those are real people. I fucking love Texas. Yeah. They are people. They don't have any illusions of becoming famous from some fucking reality show. Or if they do, they're the anomaly.

They're not the norm. Out here, it seems like everybody, well, not everybody, but a giant percentage of the people that came here came here with some dream. They came here with some dream of being an actor. Some dream of being famous. Some dream of, you know, of making it. And then they got jobs. And so there's this, like like weird instability and this this need for acceptance and this need for recognition and you know you go to montana you don't get any of

that right you get regular people you go to colorado well colorado is now filled with stoners colorado's crazy now it's getting a little different yeah well now now that the shrooms are all legal there yeah i'm wondering what time. They're trying to bring in wolves. My friend Johnny Hamilton told me they're trying to stop mountain lion hunting and trying to bring in wolves. Really? Yes. What? Yeah.

Well, they brought in wolves in the 90s to Yellowstone. I remember. And that went really badly, right? Well, it depends on who you ask. Well, it depends on who you ask. The wildlife people think it went really well because it did a lot of great things in terms of, like, it preserved a lot of plant species that were getting decimated by elk and deer. The problem is, like, it happened so quickly that the elk and deer really didn't understand what was going on until they were decimated. Right.

And, you know, in some places they've lost more than 50% of their populations. But then other people say that they really should have never been that high in the first place. It's hard to understand who's – because, like, you try to be objective. But, you know, I hunt and I eat a lot of elk and deer. So, for me, I hear it from hunters that it's a terrible thing. But then you hear it from people that are concerned with balance and wildlife ecology and a balanced ecosystem. They think it's a good thing. And so it's a very – it's very controversial. or concerned with balance and wildlife ecology and a balanced ecosystem, they think it's a good thing. And so it's very controversial. They don't think there ever should have been these giant herds of elk,

you know, like a thousand elk in a field. They think that's unnatural. And that's akin to what apparently what they experienced when a lot of the Native Americans were wiped out by plague when the European soldiers arrived. When they talk about these great herds of buffalo, like millions of buffalo, they think that the reason why there were so many buffalo was because literally 90% of the Native Americans

were killed by European disease. Right. And so these buffalo, during that time period that happened, they just bred. My friend Dan Flores wrote a book on it. Really, really interesting shit because most people just assume that that's just how it was back then. The buffalo were everywhere. And then the white man came, shot all the buffalo. But apparently the buffalo were only all over the place because the white man came and gave diseases to the Native Americans.

Right. It's fucking nuts, man. That is. So the balance issue. So I don't know if it's fucking nuts man so the balance issue so i don't know if it's a good idea to bring wolves around people that are on mushrooms either that that too if it was me i'd try and pet it you know we're good buddy you know i'm reaching out to the forest i have a friend of mine she lives in uh a place uh in the mountains above boulder and uh there's mountain lions in my neighborhood like uh when i was. And there's mountain lions in my neighborhood. Like when I was living up there,

a mountain lion ate my fucking dog. And she was like, well, I just set my intention when I go into the forest and I let the forest know, I embrace it, I'm here for you. She was a yoga instructor. Yeah.

She might be a little crazy. Rest in peace. She's still alive, apparently. Still alive. Yeah. Satnam be a little crazy. Rest in peace. She's still alive, apparently. Still alive. Yeah. Sat Nam. Namaste, mountain lion. Yeah, yeah.

That worked out great for Siegfried and Roy, right? There's already, Colorado already has some wolves that have been in Colorado. They're entering in the fringes and from other areas where they're present, like Wyoming, you know,, Idaho. There's wolves that are neighboring Colorado that will eventually make their way into Colorado if they give it enough time. The reintroduction of wolves, the issue with that is it's abrupt and the animals might not know what's going on.

And they also make a lot of money off of their hunting, like the tags and all the economy that comes from people that hunt there. Colorado's a big hunting state. Last I heard, it was the big Arctic wolves they were bringing in to Montana, right? Yeah. The giant ones. They're bringing in from Canada into Montana. Right. Okay, so that's the same.

But they're just wolves. It's weird. Is it a gray wolf or it's a gray wolf. It's just a wolf. But they are bigger when they live in colder climates because it's a mammal thing. Like mammals, like deers. If you look at deer in Texas, south Texas, a deer, a big deer is like 100 plus pounds, 150 pounds. Whereas if you go to Saskatchewan, where it's cold as fuck, those deer are like 300 pounds when they're fully grown.

Like a big male is like a 300 pound deer, which is crazy. They're more than double the size,, it's cold as fuck. Those deer are like 300 pounds when they're fully grown. Right. Like a big male is like a 300-pound deer, which is crazy. Yeah. They're more than double the size, but it's because of the cold. Right. I never thought about it. That makes sense. I love Texas.

Yeah, it's nice. What part do you live in? I'm in New Braunfels, which is right outside of San Antonio. Oh, nice. I've never been to San Antonio. It's nice, man. San Antonio is a cool city. We're actually right between Austin and San Antonio.

Oh, that's great. It's perfect. There's like that Riverwalk area Antonio. Oh, that's great. It's perfect. There's like that river walk area. It's supposed to be dope. That's cool. I mean, that's like the tourist thing. You know, it's like what they do. It's like going to see the Hollywood sign.

But like, if you want to have a good time, just let me know when you come to Texas. And we'll go do some redneck shit. Well, my friend John Dudley was just there with the Black Rifle Coffee guys. Yeah. And they went to some ranch that's just outside of san antonio that the fucking astronauts used to go to he said there's these photos of neil armstrong with a fucking deer hell yeah yeah texas is a that is a uniquely american place like when other i think when other people think of america they really think of te. Most people. I mean, if they're thinking America, they'll say it'll be Texas.

But if it's like Hollywood, they'll say California, you know? Right. Those are the two. Some people, like every once in a while, think New York. But I think when people think about like crazy gun-toting, screaming at football, you know, like that's Texas. Yeah, guaranteed. Yeah. 100%. Driving trucks. Proud of it, too. Yeah, proud of it. That's Texas. Guaranteed. 100%. Proud of it. It's a fun place.

A lot of fun. A lot less regulations. A lot more self-accountability. They have fucking zebras and giraffes and shit everywhere. They're loose. Running around. I just became accredited zoo that works a lot with confiscated animals.

They've got hundreds of animals that basically some redneck was like, oh, I'm going to have a white lion. Can't take care of it, so they take it. These are folks who got high in this abandoned house. They were in the house in Texas. And they're wandering around this house smoking weed. And they walked into a room with a fucking tiger in a cage. Oh, my God. They called the police.

And they had the police come and rescue this fucking tiger. But this was in an abandoned house. Oh, shit. The house? Oh, my God. Yeah, there was just a... I mean, they weren't sure. Like, you find it there?

Oh, you got these God damn pop up ads They're getting craftier And craftier With these pop ups And then you don't know If like clicking exits Is going to download Something nowadays

Texas man Look at this Texas man enters Abandoned home to smoke weed Finds tiger instead That's fucked up man Yeah He thought he was

Hallucinating Oh man He said it was In a rakey dink cage it instead that's fucked up man yeah he thought he was hallucinating oh man he said it was in a rinky-dink cage in the home's garage but it's weird when you treat animals like property you know when you can just do whatever you want with them and that's how texas that's how texas views uh exotics anything that's not like if you're if you have white-tailed deer in texas they have pretty liberal tags like you can shoot a good number of them but you have to get tags right but if you have like a black buck which is a african animal or a neil guy or something like that you shoot as many as you want right yeah they just you do whatever you want you sell them to your friends

what does it say it was secured only with a screwdriver and a nylon strap jesus christ i hope this guy got some kind of fucking punishment the guy who owned the fucking house yeah that's a dick move man yeah that's a beautiful tiger yeah there's something really fucked up about seeing tigers locked up i i don't even like the fact that they feed them i mean i feel like you should just let something loose in there yeah that's what i was saying yeah that's what i was saying but from from what i was rolling yeah exactly what i was told was that that was just not uh pc like it wasn't acceptable i'm sure yeah do you uh do you ever see the footage of uh when the u.s soldiers overtook baghdad they had uh they had zoos in baghdad and what they would

do is that the lions knew it was happening so they would uh let these goats out and these goats would be wandering around and then they would open the door and the lions would sprint because they knew exactly what because it was feeding time so these goats had no idea they let the goats out and the goats were like oh just hanging out being a goat and then they would open up this fucking door and U.S. soldiers filmed it. Oh, wow. And these lions just make this fucking mad sprint to these goats and just maul them. And that's how they ate. Uh-huh.

People got pissed, I'm sure. People shouldn't be pissed. That's what it is. If you watch a fucking, you go and see a parrot eating seeds. Well, that's what it eats. You know, maybe really identify with seeds and you feel like that's brutal murder murder of seeds yeah but that lion wants to do that that's what makes them a lion it makes them happy and it's it's what they have to do you know it's like there's a lot

more um people getting publicity not publicity but there's a lot more people showing that side of things at least i was we were talking about right before we came on there's this uh instagram page called nature is metal yes i love that page badass he got taken down for a while he had a he got back up but he's he has one of the very best pages how can you take it down that's all he didn't he didn't he had nothing to do with any of those situations it's not like he like had some kind of ulterior motive and came in and put these animals in the situation. That's just reality. Dude, Instagram's cracking down hard lately. I don't understand it.

They take all kinds of stuff down for virtually no reason. It's weird. I think all it is is someone has to complain enough, and they'll take it down. Yeah. They need to get that fixed where it's instead of like a computer. I understand it's a lot, right? It's a lot of people. So having a computer regulate that just doesn't work no it's not just a computer regulate that if someone could target you like say maybe you could be doing something and they just decide

you're offensive and then just start like make a targeted campaign to complain about your content yeah yeah so one of those uh tattoo girls she, she got her poster removed just having her hand above her crotch, like covering her crotch, her legs spread and showing all her tattoos. And they took down her page. But she's covered up. Makes no sense. I mean, she doesn't have pants on, but you can't see anything. All right.

What the fuck are we doing? Isn't this America? Censoring legs. What kind of shit is this? Texas needs to open a new Instagram. What's that? That's different than what nature's metal is, though. He might have gotten in trouble for taking, like, photographers' copyright and works and reposting it.

It's not different because she's wildlife. She's being wild. Exactly. And that's her natural habitat. Yeah, she's being wild. God damn it, young Jamie. Jesus, Jamie. I was talking about this with a friend of mine yesterday.

What, are you a communist? No, like, this selective enforcement of those copyright laws. At what point, if like, you know, YouTube, some stuff is good, even on Instagram. Some stuff they let go and some stuff they don't. At what point are people supposed to understand what is okay and what is not okay? Yeah, it's hard. But you also have to think of it. How many people are on Instagram?

Let's just guess. I don't know. Let's guess. How many people do you think? I'm not either, but's hard. But you also have to think of it. How many people are on Instagram? Let's just guess. I don't know. Let's guess. How many people do you think? I'm not either, but... Fuck. Let's say, we think 100 million? 150. More than that.

More than that? It's probably close to a billion, maybe. Really? 500 million, like somewhere in that range, I would say. All right. I'm going to go with 300 million. 300 million and one, please. Jamie, you're going with a billion?

Yeah. How many people are on Instagram? One billion people use Instagram every month. Jesus Christ. But that's one billion yous. Yeah. But what about all the people that are on that don't even use it? So it could be like two.

Does that include the Russians? One billion. Yeah, that's a lot. Jesus Christ. That's crazy. Well, Twitter still lets porn happen You can still have porn on Twitter What do they say? It's just because it has an 18 plus warning or something like that?

It doesn't even My feed I'll be scrolling through my feed I gotta make sure my kids don't ever grab my phone Because if they're looking through my phone The age thing might be in there though Because when you sign your account you say how old you are and like it might be built into the system that makes sense a lot of those things are protections for people that are under 13 and i don't know why there's that internet rule but like there is

some government protections they need to be watching out for the minors that are online and that makes sense but does that is that the case with like you porn or places like that you just go there i don't know but come on you don't know i don't know where that why if the kid like a kid knows what porn is yeah i don't know that i don't know the line mystic you porn you speak of what is this porn what are you talking about how do you get there what use a browser do you know what a browser is? I can't stop Well when the virtual porn Fucking world opens up That's when things are gonna get very squirrely

Duncan said it's too real Duncan had a HTC vibe And he was watching porn With the helmet on Which I only want to be a fly on the wall Watch him standing there That's what I was gonna say Standing there beating off

Looking at a 17 foot tall vagina in front of him oh my god a haptic suit would be the next step and those are here so i don't know what that's like if they've synced it up yeah those that mean i've done that the place we talked about the void you ever uh do a virtual reality place i haven't it's pretty dope they have a new one that I just saw in Vegas. Some new one that looked like you're going to a warehouse and you're shooting at things. But you put on this helmet and you enter into this room. And there was two different ones that I went on. One was a Star Wars one and one was a Wreck-It Ralph one.

Nice. And it's crazy. I mean, you look around. I mean, the entire thing is animated. Like, above you, below you, you see the ground. You see stormtroopers. They shoot at you. You feel the laser beams hit your chest because you're wearing a vest that, like, vibrates when you get hit.

You walk into a room where there's fire and you feel the heat. It's getting really interesting. When you're in that, like, say this room was empty, would you walk around as if it was like the entirety of the room? Yeah, you could walk around. They have it set up so that they have rooms that you go into where you open doors or doors open for you. And you see the door open like in virtual reality, but a real door does open while that fake door that you're seeing opens. And then you go into it and then they have these plastic guns that you pick up you know so you actually pick up the gun but when you're

holding it it looks like a stormtrooper weapon yeah you know like a star wars weapon that's cool it's getting weird it's gonna it's gonna be weird but but i think what's interesting is like that kind of stuff is so much less satisfying to bring it back to like what you do than like something that you have to really work for and it's really difficult and it's a very visceral real feel like the feeling of accomplishment you get when you do something virtual will never be able to compare right with the the feeling that you do when you do a physical visceral thing when you feel it in your fucking bones yeah you feel it you live it i i uh when i was doing world's strongest man in botswana africa i tore my bicep and um i i just was getting beat up over and over again i was just

so wrecked my body wasn't accepting because i i went from football to strongman and in football we've never done deadlifts it was all hand cleans and power cleans which by the way just quick little tip that deadlifts if you're if you're deadlifting to be a better deadlifter fine if you're not doing that for deadlift sake then don't fucking do it the risk to reward ratio is a joke for deadlift for deadlifts and a lot of people aren't going to like that I'm saying that but if you go into any NFL gym in any division one college football gym in any athletics where people are actually getting paid and it matters what they're doing, they're not deadlifting. Really?

They're hand cleaning and power cleaning. Why is that? Because the risk to reward ratio. Like, it's so hard to be a great deadlifter and to not risk your low back and to be using your upper back properly. and to not risk your low back and to be using your upper back properly. And, you know, there's so many little chances for you to get hurt, you know. Hamstring, that was me, my first world's strongest man. I was the only rookie in the finals.

Bro. China. How much weight is that? That was 880 pounds, 400 kilos. Me and my pink chucks. I weigh less than that now. I'm less of a bowling ball though. Really?

Yeah. Wow. Well, they made those weights ridiculous looking too. Right. Well, that right there is something we overhead press too. So they'll take some of the weights out of it and it's so flimsy when you clean it. It's like basically like holding that earthquake bar that you have out there. Oh, really?

It's just like that, and it's fucking brutal. So they take weight out of that round thing? Yeah. What is in that round thing? Well, there's several different attachments to it, so maybe some of them way different. I've never been a part of that, but either that or it unscrews at the end, and they take weights out of it, and I'm not positive. So you leave the NFL, or you leave playing football. Were you in the NFL? No. I had a weights out of it. I'm not positive. So you leave the NFL or you leave playing football. Were you in the NFL?

No. I had a brief shot at it. Never actually got to do it, no. So what kind of transition? What is the transition to getting to Strongman? Went from that to I was a security guard. In Santa Cruz, there's this place called The Catalyst, which is where I worked for like six years.

It's a really cool bar slash concert venue. So I was like spoiled. I got to hang out with Rob Zombie and Willie Nelson and shit. Yeah, it was cool, man. I was spoiled. Rob Zombie, I geeked out really hard for. That's dope. It was fun.

Yeah, we're working on getting him here. Dude, he'd be awesome. He'd be awesome. Yeah, I'm sure he would be. Yeah. He was really cool. I'm sure he is. He's really into horror movies, man.

Dude, and he does the best ones. Yeah. I love his horror movies, man. They're wild. I'm sure he is. He's really into horror movies, man. Dude, and he does the best ones. Yeah. I love his horror movies, man. They're wild. I'm a huge fan. Huge fan. He's like the Quentin Tarantino of horror. Yeah.

It's awesome. But it's such a weird transition, you know? Yeah. You've got to go from being a rock star to a horror film director. He's just crazy in the head. And his brother is actually the lead singer of Power Man 5000. Really? Yeah.

Oh, wow. In the family. So I went to security, and I was working there. And a buddy of mine who I had played junior college ball with was just obsessed with Strongman. And I'd never heard of it. I never watched it. When I was growing up, we were poor. There was 10 of us in a three-bedroom house.

And from high school on, we didn't have electricity. So we didn't watch TV. We would play outside. We had a trampoline. You didn't have electricity in high school? On the watch tv we we would play outside we had a trampoline you didn't have electricity in high school on the weekends my dad worked for caterpillar cashman equipment so on the weekends he'd bring home a little generator and he'd plug that in and we'd have like three things we could use but that was it like the hot water heater would work for the weekend and then like maybe the tv on saturday night or something like tgif or something but i

mean it wasn't i mean as a kid it's not that big of a deal you know like you just go play with your brothers outside right so but like i never knew what strongman was because of that i mean i had no idea so he was obsessed with it and he kept trying to get me to do it and then uh went went home and googled it checked it out actually i don't know if it was google i'm not a YouTube dude. Back then, who knows what we had. But, you know, I was excited and went and tried it out. First day, the amateur world record at Log Press was like 320 pounds at the time. And I had no idea.

But the first day, I hit 330 pounds and just put it down. And I looked over at my buddy and I was like, you know, how'd that look? And he's like, get the fuck out of here. Like he's been trying his whole life to do this. I just came in and took it. And then eight months later, I mean six months later, I was competing in England and I had my pro card. Two months after that, I was in China at that photo right there, World's Strongest Man. I was the only rookie in the finals.

So is it the log thing is it the awkwardness of like holding on to a log and getting it under your hands and yeah and it's it's actually it's a lot healthier for your shoulders instead of being uh how would you call that with your hands right there instead of pronated or supinated yeah i forget which one is which we're the worst i like it when trainers use that though oh you know what you're talking about. This guy's got his shit together. This fat dude eating french fries. So,

yeah, I mean. So it's better for you. It's much better for your wrists and your shoulders. Makes sense. And also,

like, that's what my. There it goes. Jamie's showing us. Pronated grip, supinated grip. So, yeah.

Neutral grip is much better for your wrists and shoulders. Okay, like, so handles like this. They say that with bench press as well yeah like those uh benches they have new bars the football bars from rogue yeah yeah those are awesome awesome rogue makes good equipment yeah i use all their shit my house and here i know and then they don't pay me and it's not free i buy all of it same here i don't work with them either but they're the best yeah it's the best shit so um we went to worlds and then oh yeah i was i totally lost the whole getting so you won what first of all you beat the fucking world record log press the first time your world record amateur amateur ever yeah your first attempt that's hilarious yeah so it was good

much and then what's the pro record right now, the American record's been mine for four years, and that was 211 kilos. What is that? Fucking 468. Something like that. Is this you here? This is me. Yeah, this is in Australia in front of Arnold.

Jesus Christ. Arnold was there? Yeah, that's his show. That's his competition. This is my competition. So this is a log press right here? Yep. That's his show That's his competition This is my competition So this is a log press right here Yep That's a skinny log too

This was a hard log to use But this was A buddy of mine Had that record And he passed away And I wanted to be the one To take it from him After he had died

And that was this moment Jesus Christ That looks heavy You show me show off A little bit too I like to do this after I get it up. Wow, so that's the world record. American record.

Who's the world record? The world record, I like to hold it up there and talk shit. Every time you see a record broken, the guy gets it to here and then he just throws it down. That don't count. That doesn't count. The world record is 219 kilos, I i believe something like that something something right around there it might have been 220 how closely are you to that i can i can break it right now yeah yeah in january break that shit robert i'm going to london i'm gonna give london a little introduction

to texas uh uh what do you call texas pride and texas powerlifting for sure wow i'm excited so you go and you break the american amateur record right away right first first attempt out and is that when you felt like fuck i could do this shit yeah i went home and uh i told my my my fiancee at the time we were living in a studio and we were just broke and i was volunteer coaching and i was uh for high school which is my passion high school football and then i was working at that club at night so i didn't have a lot of time but i was like i can make this happen like with with my personality and this is a platform i can do this and everybody kept telling me there's no money in

strongman there isn't any and there really wasn't there wasn't like there was no money in strongman until i made money in strongman like really brought it into there were several other people but like what we did was we cultivated a whole new era of strongman was before like even like puginowski was a guy who got a lot of attention because he looked just shredded you know jacked but i mean if you mean, he's got like a Cribs episode that they did in Poland. And he's got this tiny little house with like little knickknacks and stuff he's so proud of. It's really weird.

It's crazy. But like even then, he's five-time World's Strongest Man winner. There's really no money in that. I would have thought he would have been balling out of control. You would think so. Because I know who he is. I feel like if I know who you are and you do something on TV, you must be rich.

Yeah, exactly. That's the must be rich. Yeah, exactly. That's the rapper's display. Yeah, exactly. I'm flying in first class and then you catch a little Bow Wow in the back. Well, I remember one of the weird things that I read about Pudzianowski is how much candy he eats. Huh. Yeah, and that he really likes candy in between workouts because he's blowing out so much sugar that he would eat chocolate bars. That makes sense.

Yeah. We do a lot of, like, I do peanut butter and honey, stuff like that. because he's blowing out so much sugar that he would eat chocolate bars. That makes sense. Yeah. We do a lot of, like, I do peanut butter and honey, stuff like that. During competition, peanut butter and honey are Snickers bars. Really? Yeah. And when you eat peanut butter and honey, do you eat it with a spoon? I usually make the sandwiches.

I see guys just pouring honey in their mouth, like the Russian guys. There's a Russian guy who was Russian Secret Service for a while. Uh-oh. Oh, yeah. Like, you look in his eyes you're like this motherfucker has done some bad things but he's the nicest dude in the world he's he's like the sweetest guy he comes like he always comes over and talks to me and my family and he's he doesn't speak good english but he's really nice about trying to get his point across and everything and but um yeah that that guy's done probably scary shit. Yeah, I'm sure.

There's a lot of that because we compete with people from all around the world. And we tend to forget that everywhere else there's a lot of – it's normal almost to be like that in some places. Right, to survive. And if you're a giant dude, it's probably the best way to make a living. Exactly. Yeah. And so they just squirt honey in their mouth? Yeah, they'll just pour like a whole little canister of honey and just take that you see guys do that right before they go lift and stuff i'm i the the way i grew up and the the way i did things like i was

always taught and it kind of worked with being broke but like a warrior goes to war hungry that's like in football i would never eat before a game ever and then um got in a strongman and i did that for a long time and i got up to 440 pounds and i would i would do an entire show like five six hours without eating but then during it i would snack a little bit but i would never eat a meal right but then the resources it eats up your resources right right and and see for me it felt like anything in my stomach just made me feel like slow yeah that's what i'm saying yeah that's the same with comedy too i learned that from kat williams watching an interview with them just don't eat before you go on stage i'm like that makes sense yeah you're better off being

hungry right hunters do that too the best hunters they hunt hungry yeah see and then but what happened to me was i lost 80 pounds that was 440 i lost 80 pounds and when i got hurt in botswana i lost all that weight and just because of the bicep tear no i chose to do that see i'm i graduated high school i was 370 pounds so i've always been a big dude but i got up to 440 and just walking around was laborious you know just i felt like fucking horrible how big were you when you did that log press that log press that was like like 425 ish 430 right around that so like i gained a little bit more after that i just everyone tells you in the sport the bigger you are the stronger you are and that kind of

holds true to static lifting like kind of it's not necessary all the time but it kind of holds true but we got to move man like we're talking about pulling a truck and doing load events and all that stuff when when you're 440 and your body's not agreeing with that 440 it just it holds you back you want to imagine the load on your joints, too. Yeah. Particularly lower back. Yeah. My low back was bad. Yeah. So that's what happened.

I got hurt, and I felt like I was done. Because my low back, it'd take me like 45 minutes to get out of bed in the morning. Really? Oh, yeah. I was messed up, man. Really bad. Did you get an MRI? I never got an MRI.

I didn't. I'm scared to. Suck it up. Exactly. Just fucking roll. How'd you fix it? When I lost weight, it got better, and it's core strength for me now. Core strength and

stretching. And also, I smoke weed. A lot of athletes are against it, and a lot of people think that there's some negative connotation with being someone who smokes weed, but I'm watching guys take Vicodin like it's Skittles. I'm watching.

I've seen guys throw away their lives, their families, their career over a bunch of pills because they didn't want to smoke. And it's crazy. It is crazy. And we actually officially got World's Strongest Man to take marijuana off of the drug testing. Wait, wait, wait, wait. There's drug testing in World's Strongest Man? Yeah, every year.

Are they making sure you're on steroids? Like, we have to test you. No. Make sure you're strong. They test us. What kind of bitch ass shit are you taking? Not enough drugs in the sky system. Do you know who Robert Frank is?

It sounds familiar. He's a hilarious Instagram guy. I can't recall, but it sounds really familiar, yeah. He's really funny, man. He's like's like he talks like this he's really fast yes yes he's got this fucking hilarious rant about uh someone getting the girl pregnant and taking responsibility and he goes he goes i have to ask you he goes if you're trying to get jacked and tan what kind of gear are you on i have to question your gear if you're getting your girl jacked and tan what kind of gear are you on i have to question your gear if you're getting your girl pregnant what kind of swears do you have

that guy's got so much energy i know exactly he's another one he gets censored off of instagram all the time they pull his posts and they he's got a million followers and they won't give him a fucking blue check mark that's ridiculous because People don't understand that's our livelihood. A lot of people, that's social media, is how we feed our fucking family. Well, also, he's fucking funny. Yeah. But he's funny with toxic masculinity.

Right, right. He's toxic. Because his opinion's different. We're not allowed to have it. He's jacked and tan. That's him right there. Yeah. He's not tan.

He's red. Play this. Play this. That motherfucker's red. He's funny, man. He's funny. He's red Play this Play this That motherfucker's red He's funny man Yeah He's funny Chest day

Chest day the sleeves of his medium deep v-neck tees and he's nailing hoes from different area codes like a boss problem is what if i call them up saying she's pregnant now he's blaming me for introducing to the game first of all who the told you to go wrong talking and if that's how you roll there's plenty of other techniques for when you get the freaks in the sheets like the sticky belly or sticky lower back perfect methods for when you get the hose on the sack whereas i've been told since i was four years old many days of old and nights were bold and kind of weren't invented they kind of suck around their and babies were prevented and to this day i still carry an extra sock in my back pocket because you never know what she's gonna want to rock it but when she Oh my god. You think he writes that all himself? I think so.

Oh my god. You think he writes that all himself? I think so. Oh, my God. Full as the goal. Size of the prize. It's Gage the Clock, motherfucker. Let's get him.

It's funny shit, man. Yeah. It's fucking funny shit. And he can't get approved. And they've gone through publicists. They've tried to get him, what is it, recognized? What is it called? Verified. Verified. Try to get get him verified try to get that blue check mark next to his name it's silly man i mean i don't know how that even works somebody's too big he did mine too much

muscle yeah i mean well you can do it because you're not making fun of things he's making fun of things talking about getting his cock pretty you are and strong god damn it strong and pretty it's perfect no it's it's silly that they do that though you know it almost i mean if you look historically back every time they've done that those people have got more power like all you're doing is feeding that guy so in 10 years when you look like the asshole that censored him he's going to be 10 times that well especially now that we're talking about him yeah yeah which is good yeah it's good that this exists yeah it's fucking good i think so a lot of people appreciate it well i think this is a weird time where you can't

you're having people dictate what you can and can't see or what isn't is val isn't isn't valid and it's just that seems like nonsense to me like we're moving backwards especially with something like that he's being funny like he's funny he makes me laugh we're allowed to make jokes yeah we are what the fuck man even bad jokes man even bad jokes by juice heads yes like it's funny he makes me laugh we're allowed to make jokes yeah we are what the fuck man even bad jokes man even bad jokes by juice heads yes like it's funny exactly he talks about being a juice head it's hilarious my first introduction to comedy i i loved growing up i was a huge fan of richard pryor and all that stuff i'm a huge fan of uh of carlin i just big fan i even liked uh what was his name jeff foxworthy i love fox

which was great and um my first time i ever got to see a show i came in i move into la and a buddy of mine brought me to see you and uncle joey and i was like holy fuck i couldn't first joe comes out there and you can't even breathe when joe's good don't get a second. It's like, God damn. He's an animal. He's got some shit right now. Like, if you get a chance while you're in town, he's got some new shit. We were falling on the ground crying the other night. Oh, yeah.

I'll come check him out. He's the best ever. He crushes. He crushes. No one's, like, funnier in bursts. You might get, you know, guys who are really good joke writers, guys who are really funny, guys who are valid in terms of our culture, but no one's funnier than Joey Diaz. No one. The whole room.

It was like we were uncomfortable. We couldn't stop laughing. He's so damn good. When you went up, it was like so – it's a whole different style, but it's like super like along the way that I think about how like you're introspective and comparative with different things and stuff and the way you make people like look at something at a different angle and then you poke fun of the way that you originally thought about it, you know? That's at least how that set was. But it was – I mean being in a live audience is so different than watching a special on TV. Oh, yeah. It's way better. Well, I met you in the belly room, which is one of the watching a special on TV. Oh, yeah. It's way better.

Well, I met you in the belly room, which is one of the best places to do stand-up. Right. Remember the last tiny room? Yeah, yeah. I did a set on the belly. Did you really? I've been on stage once. And I did, yeah, the belly room. Yeah.

I went up there and did, it was story time. And Tate Fletcher and, oh, man, I can't remember who else. A bunch of people just kept telling me, like, just go up there and tell a story. Just go tell a story. And I was like, all right, there's no cameras in here, right? Like, I can tell a real story or what kind of story are we talking about? But they got me up there, and I did six minutes. They gave me four, and I ran on for six.

I didn't know what the lights meant. I was just talking, you know? I didn't know. And I told a story about being in China and we thought we were going to go to jail in China and stuff. And it was fucking hilarious. What happened in China? That year you saw me in the picture.

We got done with World's Strongest Man and we do like a celebration. We all go to dinner and all that stuff. And I was fucking excited because I was the only rookie in the finals. I was super excited. So I'm only rookie in the finals. I was super excited. So I'm hammered drunk. You're in China and then little things start to click.

You see people all wearing like the communist uniform like that they have. They were celebrating. I don't know if it's called Communism Day or whatever, but they celebrate that. And like almost the entire city. We were in Sanya, which is a little island, which is like their kind of vacation island. And almost everybody was dressed in those uniforms.

And I'm drunk. And I'm looking around. I'm starting to feel uncomfortable. And we finally get up to go. And we all get on this bus. And the guy who runs World's Strongest Man is a very old man. He's got to be in his 90s, right? But he needs help moving around all that

kind of stuff we get on the bus and uh we're setting up and the camera crew left all their stuff on the front seat which is which is the the older guy's seat you know we make sure that he has that seat you know and um we get in and we're trying to finagle like the we're not finagle we're trying to be assertive but nice to the camera crew that they have to move back. And they didn't speak English at the moment. And they were acting like they just didn't understand. They were being really rude about it. And Nick Best, who's actually on the TV show with me, he came over and he picked up the camera.

And he was like, you're moving. And started walking back with the camera case. And then the guy got up and started yelling at us in english and he's totally knew exactly what we were saying the whole time and he's yelling at us and freaking out and nick puts the camera down like towards the middle of the bus and then sits back down the guy marches off the bus comes back on the bus with three cops, three police officers in Chinese uniforms. And I'm fucking scared shitless. I've heard horror stories about Chinese prison. It does not sound like the place to be.

And the guy and the cops are getting really worked up about the fact that he touched his equipment and that Nick called him an arrogant American, all this stuff, like freaking out. And the police officer literally exactly. Nobody ever believes this, but it was like in 300 is almost fucking exactly. He goes, this is China. And he's screaming at a bus full of the world's strongest men. He's, he's fucking scared all of us into thinking we were going to go to jail. This is China. And he's screaming at him.

And Nick best, like kind of sits back in his seat and puts his head down. And he realizes, like, you know, we better shut the fuck up. So we all, like, kind of tucked our tails in and sat there. And then the older guy got on the bus, took his seat. And then the camera guy kind of pretended like it didn't happen and went and sat back down. The police officers left. But in the entirety of that situation, like, I fucking i i could have swore i was going to prison like scared to death yeah you do not want to get locked up in an asian prison no especially

china no no no no not there and especially that spot because like it was it was their vacation island but it's fucking dirty like the the stories you hear about kids shitting in the streets and stuff it's not everywhere in China. But on that island, it was everywhere. Like, the kids just stop, pull open their little shorts, and take a shit. Ari told me he saw that in the mall. Inside? People just in the mall, walking.

They just stop, pull their pants down, and shit on the ground. Yeah. And I went, what? On the floor. Yeah. Yep. That's what they do, man. It's crazy.

It's so crazy. So who comes and cleans up the shit? I don't know. I don't think anybody when it's outside. There's just everywhere. Really? Yeah. You just see human shit everywhere.

All over the place and it smells like it. And we almost, I think there was 30 of us, like 26 of us all got stomach flu or stomach intestinal parasites. Oh, I bet everything has got shit on it. Yeah. If people are just shitting on the street, there's probably shit everywhere you touch. Yep. They were burning tires for their streetlights.

It was nasty, man. What? Yep. Yep. That island, it's gorgeous, too. I'm telling you, like, the photos, the pictures, Sonia Island is gorgeous. They were burning tires for streetlights. Yep.

And these motherfuckers want us to switch to electric cars yeah they're over there burning tires in china well at least in 2013 they were man that is crazy crazy where else have you had to travel for strongman um i did i've done africa uh dubai is is one of my favorites it's it's it's creepy creepy sometimes just realizing I don't like not feeling like I'm in control of what happens to me, my destiny. When I'm in Texas, I feel great. 90% of the people around you are armed. If some shit happens, they got it.

My girl actually, she rides horses and she manages a gun shop, so I'm straight. I don't have shit to worry about. But when you're in the Middle East or when you're in China or anything like that, manages the gun shop so like i'm straight you know i don't have shit to worry about but like when you're when you're in like the middle east or when you're in china or anything like that you just have this feeling inside you're like it could fucking go wrong right and but uh when we go to dubai we actually do world's ultimate strongman in dubai and we're gonna do another competition there october 25th which is it's the highest paid strongman show that exists

it's a really big show it's a lot of fun we go out there and they fucked up they gave me the keys to a Ferrari and I just fucking went crazy I went through downtown going like 120 there's also no cops too Dubai doesn't have any cops? No they might have

a few like in certain areas but it's basically they use cameras everywhere. So if you speed or if anything happens or you steal or anything like that, it's all on camera. There's literally cameras everywhere. And that's how their judicial system works. They don't use police. They just say, oh, well, let's look at the camera footage. Exactly.

Lock that motherfucker up forever yep yep and when we were there like it was craziness going on with the royal family and stuff like it was it was pretty tense i'm going back in october i don't know maybe we should probably shut the fuck up you could google it it's crazy when you look at that place like what it was like in 1970 versus what it is now. Right. Some of the before and after footage is insane. There's so much wealth there. Yeah. I mean, they have built the biggest building in the world. They're the tallest building in the world.

Burj Khalifa. I shit my pants at the top of that building. Not literally, but I hate heights. And I went up there and I couldn't walk. How many floors is it? Like 130. I don't know, man. We get in the bottom of the elevator and eddie hall

who's who's also in the in the show with me it's me eddie hall nick best and brian shaw first of all how the fuck is that elevator gonna carry all you assholes right exactly we get in they close the door to go up and eddie farts oh no i was like this motherfucker no 130 something floors smelling this guy's ass you know it was horrible and eddie's the worst he's english so he's eating like porridge and shit like that drinking tea and farting i will put tate fletcher's farts up against any man who's ever lived really oh my god the worst back in the day when he was fighting he used to i think he just over consumed protein but he was legendary. Legendary.

He would laugh. He would laugh, and you'd be like, oh, we got to run, because you knew the fog was coming. He would laugh first, and then it would come. Oh, no. Jesus. That's the worst, when they enjoy the fact that you're dying. That's Tate. God damn it.

He doesn't do it anymore, though. He must have cleaned his diet up. He's never got me, either. Never. He doesn't do it anymore, though. He must have cleaned his diet up. He's never got me, either. Never. I loved going out with Tate because normally when I go out, especially in L.A. or something,

I just draw way too many weird eyes. I feel like I just need to hide in the corner. But with Tate, it's like the Bash Brothers walked in. Tate's not as big as me, but he totally normalizes me. Right, right, right. It's so awesome. Going into the comedy store was my favorite, man. I used to go in there.

Actually, I saw a lot of the transition from when you started coming back, and I saw the culture change, man. You did a lot for that place. You fucking changed the entire culture of that back room. That's crazy. It was awesome, man. Well, that's my spot.

I wasn't there for seven years. Yeah, yeah. And I was there just before and then just after. And I used to go in there a lot. I used to go hang out a lot. And I'm telling you, just the way the comedians interact with each other is totally different. When I first went there, it was very like, oh, well, I have this and I can do this. And it was basically like Hollywood at the comedy store.

So if you're waiting to audition for a commercial and these people are all telling each other how cool they are, that's what it felt like. Then now, I mean, not now. I haven't been there for maybe a year or two. But then after that, it became more like what we do. We're talking shit to each other. And it's like it's a camaraderie thing.

It's not like I'm better than you. It's like we can all talk shit we're all on the same level you know that's very important to me that i think that that it probably comes from martial arts but it's also just my my own philosophy it's like i want everybody to do good i don't want to be the only one doing good right i don't understand that i've've never understood that. I want, like, when I go on the road, I try to bring the best people alive. I want everybody to have fun. I want the audience to have a great show. I want people to kill. And I try to help comedians.

I really want to support them. I try to get them all on my podcast. I try to tell everybody they're great. I try to tell everybody to go see them. Yeah. And, well, you see what that cultivates too yeah everybody got better yeah i mean joey probably exactly the same he's always been the same but part of when joey became a monster is because he got all this love you know and he realized he could just be himself up there yeah

like when he stopped taking coke and all that stuff yeah that helped but even when he was doing coke he was fucking amazing yeah i can't imagine him not being funny i can i can hear him tell the same story five different times and still crack up every fucking time he's an american original there's not a whole lot of people like that guy but that place uh yeah it's you know what it's just insecurity when when when people realize they're loved and that there's real camaraderie and a brotherhood and sisterhoods and that you really do care about each other yeah everybody like that place is all hugs man yeah go there everybody's hugging yeah and it wasn't that way i know i know every time i give you a compliment i see you kind of like wince a little bit when people like like like yourself or i'm the

same way like whenever i do something well and someone tells me i'm like nah i mean i should have done this this way or this i'm always that i should one-up myself guy yeah but you really changed the fucking culture there man and you've made a lot of people better the same with the podcast big ups man it was oh thanks brother thank you yeah well i feel very lucky you know i'm a very fortunate person so i like to spread it fucking from from where you started to where you are now the hustle man that's inspiring i always feel like i need to do more and i need to like extend myself in different areas and stuff i look at like so many people out there now we actually have access to and you can see like uh jaco like yeah this dude's up at 4 30 in the morning and i'm like complaining the fact

that i only got six hours with this guy. You know, like you really learn your level of hustle in reality versus where you put yourself in your head. You're like, oh, I'm killing it. I'm working so hard. There's nothing more I could be doing. And then this motherfucker's up four hours before you killing it. Well, those guys, they're fuel. You know, guys like Goggins, him, Jocko, Cameron Haynes.

Those guys are fuel. Yeah. Like, if you ever start thinking, maybe I'll slack off, maybe I'll take a day off, you'd look at Jocko's fucking hairy gorilla arm with that 430 on his Iron Man watch, and it just says, attack. That's right. I was showing some of that today. This lady at the clinic that I go to she was uh talking about how her boyfriend's into jocko he goes she'd go to his fucking instagram page every morning and you

see you see that 4 30 watch and it's like fuck gotta go i gotta get going what am i doing with my life yeah it just but it really is fuel like you feel charged up yeah when i when i listen to like goggins talk it's like a lot of soft motherfuckers want you to stay in bed. Fuck that shit. Fuck that shit. You got to get up and go attack. Stay hard. And you're like, I'm going to stay hard, David.

Get up and start running. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I love it, man. I love it. It's nice, man. It's cool that we actually have that nowadays. Yeah, man. This didn't exist before.

I mean, think about before the internet and podcasts and social media and stuff like that was you had to find that inspiration it was hard to find yeah and sometimes you'd think you'd have an inspiring person in your life but really in reality it was just some shitbag who was like just close enough that it looked like that right when you step back as an adult you're like oh okay yeah there's a lot of fake in it a lot of people fake like they work hard right actually somebody was trying to tell me the story. I've heard you talk about it on here about that guy who pretended to be an MMA guru or whatever and ended up murdering his girlfriend. Yeah. Well, no, he murdered his girlfriend's husband.

Okay. Yeah. He pretended to be a black belt. And Eddie rolled with him. When you roll with somebody there's no fake in it like with karate you can kind of fake it like there's guys that like are athletic and they can throw some kicks like just like learning on the streets just hanging out with their friends they know how to throw some kicks there's people that know how to throw a wheel

kick that have never taken a martial arts class in their life and if you see him throw a kick it's like wow that guy's legit right and but you don't know unless you see him actually fight. So the problem with that is in sparring, a lot of karate sparring, you're kind of polite and you're not trying to hurt each other. And you can kind of fake it a little bit. You can throw some shit in the air and fake it and touch each other. Yeah. But in jiu-jitsu, you have to roll.

The guy's grabbing your arm. He's arm dragging you. He's taking your back. You got to defend correctly. And Eddie was like, man, I don't know what the fuck is going on, but that dude is not a black belt.

And I'm like, really? I go like, like, what do you think he is? He's like, he's terrible. He's like,

he has nothing. Eddie said he was a CIA. It was before Eddie was deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, deep into conspiracies.

Back then it was like, he was barely, he was like in the UFOs and deep deep deep deep deep into conspiracies back then it was like he was barely he was like in the ufos and shit it was barely into conspiracies he's way off the deep end you got me in the ufos man that guy was god damn like well maybe it is true i'm uh i'm scheduled to have a phone call today this afternoon with george knapp he wants to brief me on all this shit george knapp is the guy that broke the Bob Lazar story in the 1990s. Yeah. And, you know, he shares my opinion. He's like, most of this is bullshit.

Most of these people are liars. Most of these people are crazy. Right. But there's some real shit out there, too. Like, a lot of these Air Force pilots, they have eyes on this fucking thing that's going 600 miles away in a second. Like, dropping down from 60,000 feet to 10 feet in a second. And they're like, I don't know. We don't know what the fuck this is.

We have no idea how these things are doing this. And that's not some hillbilly just talking about Sasquatch. Exactly. Yeah, it's Air Force pilots, people who they're trained to fly jets and have gunfights in the fucking sky. Right. These are exceptional human beings. Yeah.

When they see things like that, you got to go, they know what the fuck they're seeing. That's so crazy. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? The thing is, every day, you can go out there and look in the sky and you don't see shit. You go, there's nothing up there because you're not seeing it. But if you go to a fucking lake, you're never going to see a shark.

You know what I'm saying? Right. It doesn't mean sharks aren't real right it's like you're looking in the wrong spot or you want you aren't there when they show up but they're real so we have enough accumulated data to know that oh there are sharks you know they are real but they're not in lakes they're in the ocean here's where they are this is how you find them go to south africa oh look there's a shark let's go to san francisco yeah there's a bunch oh yeah or um fucking yeah. Or fucking Catalina. I've Catalina'd this. I've worked at a Boy Scout camp in Catalina and I was teaching snorkeling.

And that was like the whole time I was shitting myself. Oh, my God. It's the nicest water in the world, though. It's so warm and salty. Yeah. You just float, you know? We did Fear Factor out there a couple times. Really?

Yeah. We did a couple of stunts. Nice. A couple of water stunts. It's a cool spot. We stayed on the other side. There's the hotels on the one side and everything. We were on the other side of the campsites.

It was awesome. Awesome. I was like 13 and I got so roasted. My entire body became one blister. Oh, no. Stupid. I was stupid. No sunscreen?

None. None. Out there all day long. Yeah. No sunscreen? None. None. Out there all day long.

Yeah. So I don't know if UFOs are real, but it's certainly believable enough. It's not like the sky's empty. It's filled with stars. So do you think, after speaking with them, do you think we've had contact like that? It's hard to tell. Yeah, but you for your own opinion, not for the listeners, not for anybody else, just you when you're at home and you're chilling, do you think it? I don't know.

I really honestly don't know. I couldn't say yes or no. I'm more inclined now to think there's something going on than I was before I met Lazar and watched that documentary. Not that I was saying that aliens are not real. I think there's 100% life out there. For sure. Let's just say that. It's too big. Right right it just doesn't make any sense that there isn't it's the question of whether or not it ever has gotten here before is the weird question and it's also the problem is that you feel foolish talking about it because so many people who

believe in it are foolish and so many people who tell stories there's their stories are foolish so you feel foolish kind of going along with it right but i'm very careful about stuff like that because i'm like just because something makes you feel foolish doesn't mean it's true you know doesn't mean it isn't true yeah so i definitely think there's a very high likelihood that there's life out there and it's entirely possible that something's gotten here before but as to whether or not something really has made contact with people i don't know i'm in if i would say like where's my scale it's like probably 65 believe yeah 35 going especially after talking to that guy yeah but what he could have he could have experienced something that was an experimental aircraft that they didn't want to tell him.

Right. You never know, man. I mean, I just don't know what the tech. Look, I'm a moron. Like, I don't understand physics at all. I have no knowledge of propulsion systems or mathematics. And I don't know what the top of the field in propulsion experts are capable of today. I don't know.

There might be some shit that they're working on that they've never really perfected so they've never actually implemented in the battlefield or something like that but they have some sort of a drone that looks like it would be filled with three foot tall people like these aliens that they described i don't know and they're not going to fill you in on that if you think it's aliens then fine it's fucking aliens exactly i mean who knows what that was i mean they're taking this guy who was a physicist from los alamos labs who went to caltech and they they sent him to these uh classes at mit to learn fucking nuclear shit and then they try to see if he can figure out how to back engineer something they try to say that doesn't mean it comes from another world right it could have been

a russian thing it could have been something that the Germans figured out. I don't know. But I'm more inclined to believe him than not believe him. Yeah. He didn't seem like he was full of it. Exactly. And just looking at him, he also didn't seem like he even wanted to be here. He was just like, I'm done with this. He was getting migraines.

Just talking about it before we even got out here. He's like, I just got to tell you, I'm getting a migraine. Yeah. And like, you know, Jeremy was trying to talk him into doing it. we're gonna be fine george i mean uh bob this is important it's really good to do this and we're gonna be able to really get the story out but i think more more people told me that they got more out of the conversation because it's just him talking not no spooky music no edits right and you get to see like he's honest about what he knows and doesn't know and when he would say like what do you think about this he's honest about what he knows and doesn't know and when he

would say like what do you think about this he's like maybe i don't know right he wasn't a bullshitter he didn't seem rehearsed or full of shit nothing no what he was saying if if he didn't believe in that at least himself what he was saying i'd be fucking amazed and his story has not deviated in 30 plus years which you can't i've you try to have me tell a story of something that actually really did happen from 30 years ago and i probably told it a bunch of different times i don't know what we started the podcast exactly it's hard to remember especially when you my memory varies day to day like some days it's awesome and some days it's dog shit yeah it's crazy how that works huh yeah have you you've had

a few concussions right oh yeah sure same here yeah i i have horrible memory but from football it's like probably the worst thing ever for concussions because you're getting them even from body hits when dudes as big as you are clashing into each other your fucking brain's getting rattled around in there even if your head doesn't get hit right and i played rough like i didn't avoid anything i'm sure yeah well that's a strength of yours a guy as big as you i mean i would imagine you would impose that yeah exactly yeah paid for college you know what was the history major history oh that's cool you're on the history channel now yeah it is awesome man it's actually the only thing i ever liked about i ever liked in school like science and math didn't really click but history it was all special

to me do you listen to dan carlin oh yeah yeah yeah of course the best hardcore history i wish he would just do more that's the only thing so hard i know the research that's what you have to appreciate you know i'm embarrassed to call what i do a podcast in comparison to what he does yeah what he does is like a lecture what yours is a podcast though he needs to call his something else that's what it is it's way more in depth his his uh hardcore history on world war ii and uh world war one and the one on the mongols oh so good the greatest fucking shit i've ever heard the mongol one i've listened to like four or five times the wrath of the cons fuck it's good he's so good he's so entertaining too it's like if history was that entertaining we'd have a fucking world full of history scholars right and we wouldn't be censoring instagram right now because people would know how that works then they'd be jacked in town

put a sock on your cock yeah dan carlin is uh he's he's a fucking man he really is his podcast is incredible and the fact that he only charges a dollar for them you know i didn't even know he did that well he's they're free and then when you go deep into the archives he charges a dollar a podcast which is fucking nothing i mean they're an hour and a half long it takes a months and months to do and he's really just trying to make up for production costs he's not trying to get rich right like he's not able to recharge him much more and they're worth more man yeah i've learned more from that than i did from college you know yeah and you retain it because he's entertaining he's the man and he's a great guy too i really love that guy yeah and his story is interesting too he's an old time radio guy you know and he did radio and then

was always a history buff and he even says he's not a historian he's like very time radio guy you know and he did radio and then was always a history buff and he even says he's not a historian he's like very self-deprecating but god damn you're probably the most important historian of our time exactly exactly for guys like me you know i've learned more about history from that guy than probably from anybody yeah and so i mean probably at this moment now he technically is a historian you know i think he is we should at least give him that. I mean, he's got him. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what you have to be to be, I guess, a practicing scholar. It's like his.

I think if you say it on this show, it's official. He's absolutely a historian. Boom. Dan Carlin, you are a historian. Give that man a plaque. Give him a plaque. Give him a piece of paper for some bullshit group of dudes. That's one of my favorite things about the TV show is being able to like dive into the history of the stuff like we did a

an episode in england we were in london for most of it and um this guy thomas topham and he was a fucking psychopath person like just a crazy person like he uh he he owned a pub and his way of getting people in was doing these crazy feats of strength and he would he would uh go out there and one of the biggest feet of strength which we we challenged ourselves to do and we actually attempted a world record i can't say if we broke it or not but we took these giant barrels of whiskey out in front of this pub downtown london and we were picking them up on like a yoke. You know what a yoke is? Like a yoke walk?

Yes, yes. So like that. So the crossbar goes across your back and you pick up basically. We went, the world record we were attempting was, I think it was like 1,790 pounds, something like that. It was big. It was big. And in front of a crowd. That's that's a car that's a 1968 911 yeah exactly engine and everything yeah it was awesome man that's great and we get to tell his

story and talk about like that my favorite i'm my favorite thing we did for the whole season was probably his episode there's a an old tale that he got drunk one night and back in the day, um, London police officers had these little huts they would stand in so they could be out of the weather. And they were like on the side of the road, almost like, like on an outhouse, but a little bit smaller. And they'd stand in there and, and they'd basically keep watching on the street and being, so the rain didn't get on him. There was a story that he got drunk with his buddies just to fuck around with this cop.

He picked one of those up with him inside, carried it down the street, and threw him into an open grave at the graveyard. So we did that. It was awesome, man. We're running down these back cobblestone streets. We didn't use a real police officer, obviously. But with the whole setup, some of us tried to do it on our backs. Some of us tried to do it other ways. But we're running down, and all these people are cheering us on as we're celebrating this guy.

Basically dragged a cop down the street and threw him into a graveyard. It was hilarious. Now, when you do something like that, say a stunt like that, how much of a consideration is, when you look at it, you okay i think i can do this but fuck i might get hurt doing this right almost everything everything's like that like um we were with the daredevils last night and uh for the daredevils the evil evil live we did a premiere where um like it was a an homage to evil knievel the guys the guy was gonna jump a world record jump but he actually broke his ankles doing the testing for it.

So this woman came out, and she broke a world record driving through. They have these platforms set up with boards on fire. And she did 13 boards that were all on fire. She rode face first through them. What? She was a fucking savage. And she was the baddest. I'm so sorry.

I can't remember her name right now. But she came over and spoke to me. And I'm from Santa Cruz. You i can't remember her name right now but um she came over and spoke to me and like i'm from santa cruz like you hear the way i'm talking right now this is how i talk like i'm not like super official or anything like that and she came over and i was like so what are you what are you thinking she's like i don't know bro probably drive like 30 put my face to the motherfucker i don't know like that i was like this girl's fucking savage i love this you know it was so awesome. You find her, Jamie?

Yeah. What's her name? Vicky Golden. Vicky Golden. She looks like a regular girl. She's not even a giant. She's very pretty. She's normal.

She's putting her face through boards? Yeah. Jesus, Vicky. Crushed. It was so awesome. Oh, my God. Look at that. Fuck, man.

See, that's the boards there. That's the guy who had the record. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Oh, my God. So she's just accelerating through these flaming boards. Yep. Fucking A.

13 of them. And that's the kid that broke his ankle, Axel Hodges. He got hurt just like four days before the live show. Well, Evel Knievel, man, they put him back together again back when they didn't even know how to put people back together again. Yeah, yeah. He used glue and shit and screws and rubber bands. Crazy.

And he just kept coming back. You ever see like the x-rays of Evel Knievel's body? I saw, from this show, I saw a little bit of it. Or the videos of him like flopping as he's rolling. And you see his ankle go one way and his arm go the other way. And I'm just, that just creeps me out, man. That guy was an animal. He just didn't.

I wonder if he would take something before he would go. Coke. Before he would jump. Everybody was on Coke back then. You think so? Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense. Guaranteed.

Yeah. What year was that? I'm talking shit. Probably the 70s and the 80s, right? If it was before 95, was on coke i bet they were yeah it made sense oh yeah i mean that that would be the thing do a fucking giant pop if he wasn't he should have been yeah god damn it right like something some meth type substance yeah so that's what i was talking to them about Is basically the same way they look at a stunt Is the way we look at a lift

It's like This could possibly cripple me This could finish my career All that stuff What do you got Jamie? When he jumped the Caesars Fountains in 1967 He Crushed pelvis

And femur Fractures to his hip Wrist and both ankles Concussion that kept him In the hospital And rumors that he was In a coma for 29 days From jumping the fountain And kept jumping

Came back I think it was 6 months Right Like they talked about this I can't remember how long it was But he was right back out on it See if you can find a picture Of his x-ray

I did It's not They're super old So it's not clear What it was I looked for that first. And I was just kidding. He probably wasn't doing any drugs.

Just making a joke. I'll say it. He's doing coke. Probably drinking, doing coke, having a great time. Why not? Fuck it. Everybody else did. Yeah.

Yeah. It was for that specific lift that we did, I didn't really. That's him at Caesars, huh? Jesus Christ. Look how fucking far. This is actually his actually his son yeah that's looked too clear to be oh i met his son i met his son on the set of fear factor he made it right yeah his son made it yeah oh what the the front end that high yeah that's robbie wow fucking crazy oh don't show me how jesus christ he's going to die. He goes limp, man. That stuff creeps me out.

Yeah. Well, it's just weird that that was a thing. When we were kids, Evil Knievel was like the Daredevil guy. What do you think? You're Evil Knievel? Right. The toys and everything, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had that wind-up back end that would just shoot them forward.

man yeah yeah they had that wind up back end that would just shoot them forward so you have to look at a lift similar to the way they would look at a stunt like it's a there's a high possibility right and and everything from where you step those cobblestone streets that was the scariest part of that yeah because the thing itself was i think it was like like 400 something something like that it wasn't like crazy heavy it was around 400 something, something like that. It wasn't like crazy heavy. It was around 400 pounds. So for us, that's not that big of a deal unless you put your foot wrong with 400 pounds. Then all of a sudden, there goes your ankle. There goes your knee. There goes your Achilles.

And the other thing is once the whistle blows and it's on and we're racing or you're playing in a sport and the fight starts or the game starts, when the whistle blows, all that shit's gone. The fear's gone. The hesitation's gone. I'm going to fucking win. That's what I'm here for. So that's when you really have to worry about that. So beforehand, I'll always walk the course and just look like, okay, I want to hug this corner. Even if it's going to take me a little bit longer, to i want to hug this corner even if it's

going to take me a little bit longer i'll be loose on this corner because it's a little bit of a dip you know stuff like that but you know i mean it doesn't always turn out right first world strongest man franco colombo just destroyed his knee carrying a fridge did he really yeah which actually changed a lot of the structure of contracts that we sign now franco colombo was in the world's the first world's strongest man yeah i believe it was franco colombo yeah yeah it was there was lou ferrigno um franco colombo and i could franco was the shorter guy who's trying with arnold right yeah he was the guy who used to blow up hot water bottles with his lungs and make him explode right yeah yeah which is crazy fucking insane about a lung power yeah that's like longevity power too

that's the kind of stuff i really like i can't wait till like i'm done with the sport and i can actually do stuff that'll make me feel good like you know instead of like waking up broken every day i'll be like oh i can do a little bit of yoga i like to hike that kind of stuff yeah you're looking forward to a normal life yes exactly what what injuries have you had um i my the first uh the amateur show i was doing i actually i competed brian shaw who was on the tv show with us he's four-time world's strongest man winner out of colorado he was hosting an amateur show in colorado and i i was in santa cruz training ocean sea level. Went up to outside of Denver to compete at this show and fucking had a heart attack. It was so, so hard. But it was the deadlift.

It was like maybe two months after I started deadlifting, maybe three months. So I'd never really deadlifted. And we were deadlifting a car, the back end of a car. And they made it heavy so it was probably for amateurs heavy is about like 800 840 pounds something like that so um I'm winning the show and and I'm doing it in front of four-time world's strongest man winner who already I had my sights on him like I was coming for him you know like I that's like when I first started I was like okay this guy's the best this guy's the best i'm coming for that guy so i wanted i wanted to show out you know so i go out and i i pull the car up i do the first rep and i was like just basically it took 90 of everything i

had for that first rep but like a meathead i was like i'll pull the second one you know which it's four reps so i go pull the second one about halfway up my my lower back pops it's four reps so i go pull the second one about halfway up my lower back pops and i just let go my both my legs went stiff and then they went numb completely i fall forward into brian's arms actually as he's judging me and my legs were numb like maybe two months straight and then off and on for like two years they were just so bad for the for that first two months i actually ended up in i couldn't finish that show ended up in second place qualified for nationals which was my goal so i could get my pro card i went home started training for nationals with numb legs and had to sleep in my pickup truck because i wouldn't i couldn't lay down and we had we had a studio at

the time no chairs we just had a bed and so i would sleep in my pickup truck get up drive to the gym go train and looking back like yeah that was stupid it was really stupid but that's once i'd failed at football in my eyes i'd failed once once i kind of painted myself in this corner i was like i'm just i'm just not gonna lose and you never got an mri no i didn't have insurance fuck but even now you don't want to get a look see uh kind of do i mean it feels good now i mean i should take a peek i might i need it i'm gonna go get my achilles checked out because at this current this last world's strongest man i had a a decent pop in my achilles and so i going to get that checked out.

But I've been really careful about how I rehab stuff like that. But you're right. Yes, I should check out my back. That is crazy, though, that your legs were numb for two years. Yeah, off and on. They were straight numb for about two months. Straight numb, like someone could stab you in the leg? Like asleep.

Oh, okay. Like that. Yeah. And it was sciatic. I pinched my sciatic is basically what i was told and so you know i figured that out then um after that i i was in africa and i ripped my uh bicep off the tendon and um i i've been getting beaten up a lot at that point and like my first year world's strongest man it was so easy for me to get to

the finals i kind of just was like you know fucking you know it's whatever i don't have to work for this i am the strongest man without having to work for it and then got into africa after being beaten up a lot and kind of getting my head pushed down in the sand for two years in a row and ripped that off and i was just like i'm done like i in my And I was just like, I'm done. Like I, in my head, like I just, I thought I was done. I remember walking out by the river and sitting there and just feeling like broken,

just like, I didn't know what I was going to do with myself or anything like that. And I walked back to the tent and, uh, the referees were telling me like, you know, get your stuff. They don't,

they don't want you that once you get hurt, you have to fly you home right away. They don't let you stay and watch the finish or any of that shit. They make you leave. Yeah. Why? I think it's a liability thing. I don't want you there. Once you get hurt, they have to fly you home right away. They don't let you stay and watch the finish or any of that shit. They make you leave. Why? I think it's a liability thing. I don't know. Basically, they just got to get rid of you.

But the judge for the show was like, hey, we're doing what's called the Hercules hold, and you're up. Are you going to do it? And the Hercules hold means you reach out with both arms here like this, and you have a handle, basically like in the gym, you know the row handles? Like that, attached to a tower that's falling. And you hold it as long as you possibly can. And in my mind, I was like, this is the last time I'm ever going to be here, so I might

as well leave some fucking blood on the bar. So I walked out and did it. With a torn bicep off the bone. Yeah. The tendon. So I went over there and I was just like, fuck it. Let's at least leave a mark. I had to do something.

Did you tape it up or anything? What are you going to tape up? I mean, it's fully extended your arm. It's basically just taking weight, pulling you. And so it's not direct like curling hurting but it's it's yanking a tendon further in up into your bicep and i felt it creeping up into my shoulder as i was doing it and i i did great i actually uh i it was the best event i'd had that year you know i crushed it and i remember just closing my eyes and being gone and just if when

i let go it was almost like being baptized, man. I felt like all the pain and all the stress, everything I'd felt build up once I'd gotten hurt, I just dumped it all. It took me, I think it was two more years. I finally fought back. I thought I was done. And then last year, I made it back into the finals i i was i'm now again top 10 strongest man in the world so is it was it because of surgery and rehab surgery and then everything else was so beat up once i once i finally stepped back i was like like

there's no reason i should have to take an hour to to be able to walk in the morning. Yeah. You know, like there's no reason why my back should hurt from walking from the front door to the car, you know, like I was so wrecked. And so I just started working on different things, trying to take care of myself. And I got back to worlds, um, that next year, actually, I got back and I just didn't do well. I, cause I hadn't been able to do anything. And then, uh, came back the following year, which was just this last year. And basically, I'd been written off.

I was told it was my last time I was getting invited because at this point, you're done. It's time for you to find something else. And came out, and I've had the show of my life. I've been working so hard but you never know how strong you are until you line up you never know like what kind of athletes you are until you get tested right so i got i lined up and i got done i just crushed when i'm when i finished i loaded that the stone and i knew i was in the finals, like, dude, I get emotional just thinking about it right now.

Like, it just felt like somebody had just washed all that away. Wow. I remember ripping my shirt off. I am a fucking showman, I'll tell you that. I had my Strong and Pretty shirt underneath and I ripped my World's Strongest Man shirt and showed my Strong and Pretty shirt and I was just roaring. We were in Malaysia and, like, everybody just kind of like stepped back a little bit it was awesome so what kind of stuff did you do to try to rehab your body to try to get your

body back into condition tons of core work tons of stretching and uh like basically just digging out scar tissue is huge it's huge like a lot of people use like a theragun and stuff like that i went the cheap route i took a black and de Decker skill saw and I got the stuff attachments, put it all together. It cost me like 65 bucks, you know, but like stuff like that. I kind of figured it all out as I was going, you know, I just, I, there's people out there that were telling you stuff, but it wasn't as easily accessible when I was, when I was first going. And now, like literally now we have a website called starting strong, man. So like people who

want to train and figure out like, what's a safe way to start out. Or like, if I want to train like this, but I don't want to, don't want to buy all the equipment or, or if I just, or if I do want to be the strongest man in the world, or if I just to know what what kind of type of lifts to use to to like keep your back healthy to help you uh use your upper back instead of your lower back when you're pulling that kind of stuff i mean it's all there now like literally that did not exist and you just have to like listen to like the sock on the cock guy in the gym telling you what to do you know right that's what it was for me like it was a bunch of older lifters and i remember just you know warming up is for pussies and all that kind of shit oh yeah old school lifting man old school listen pussies yeah you ever see a lion

warm up before it chases a gazelle i've heard that nonsense before it's ridiculous hamilton was talking that crazy it's crazy yeah it's crazy i'm not a lion And I'm not going after a gazelle Yeah If you have to It's there But if you want to Take care of your body It's definitely better To warm up

Yes Exactly Yeah If you watch like a guy Like Manny Pacquiao train Like the entire I watched him Work out once

With Freddie Roach And he He warms up For a long time Yeah It's like 15 20 minutes Of warming up. They said that about Ali, that Ali would warm up for one hour.

Yeah. So an hour of his workout was him just warming up his body, just moving, moving along and getting, stretching and rolling his arms and his legs and rolling his hips. And then once that blood's flowing, then he starts shuffling. Right. Then he starts hitting the bag bag then he starts hitting the pads that's more the older i get the more i realize how important that is and like how important it is to teach the the next generation how to warm up even just rolling your hips i only started doing that in the last year and a half that's crazy it's crazy it's crazy like i put all that strain on my hips and low back my i'm telling you forever and didn't even move my hips in a circle like for your low back do you ever use a reverse hyper i do i use a reverse hyper um i like to do

a lot of stiff leg stuff i avoid deadlifts as much as possible but i i mean i still compete i can't right and what i did now was what a lot of guys do is they use a suit. I didn't know everyone was using deadlift suits and it was actually protecting their low back. A lot of what a deadlift suit does is transfer it to your upper back, which is like I went to Worlds this year, and it was the first time I didn't zero the deadlift at World's Strongest Man.

I pulled it up, and it was fucking easy. I was in my groups, and I was cruising. What does zero the deadlift at World's Strongest Man. I pulled it up, and it was fucking easy. I was in my groups, and I was cruising. What does zero the deadlift mean? Like a no rep. It was the first time I actually pulled the deadlift rep at World's Strongest Man. Every year, I've been fighting to get in the finals and doing my best with one arm tied behind my back because when this event comes, I get zero points. But I finally figured that out.

I was still thinking that I was close to retiring even though I was feeling better. But then I realized that I'm so much stronger now and I don't have all the pain. So I'm almost at peak age for strength too. So I've got to give it a couple more years. What's a peak age for strength? At least from what I've been told, they say it's like between 34 and 36 is for strong men. This is what I've always been told. But honestly, I think the longer we study this stuff, the more we're realizing is like if you treat your body right, you can keep getting stronger as long as you don't break things, mess things up.

That's the big issue, right? People break things and they have to work around those things and they break something else and they're compensating because one knee's fucked up and then the other knee blows out because it's compensating for the bad knee. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I always tell people, like I know a lot of people that have had ACL surgeries and they

try or ACL injuries and they try to not have surgery. They try to just rehab it. And I'm like, God damn it. Just get the fucking surgery. Yeah. You're going to be out for six months, but at least you'll have a fixed knee. Right. just rehab it and i'm like god damn it just get the fucking surgery right you yeah you're gonna be out for six months but at least you'll have a fixed knee right in a year you'll be happy yeah you'll be great like a year's gonna happen whether you like it or not right and this way that year

happens and while it's happening you know you'll realize like hey i gotta i gotta keep my fucking legs strong right i gotta keep all those stabilizer muscles strong right and then everything else doesn't fall yeah hamstring hamstring strength is big huge huge and butt strength a lot of guys don't like to do like butt exercises it's huge man it saves your low back it makes you feel better and also stretching out the front end of your hips and your abdominals stretching that stuff the the company you've spoke about him so right yeah they actually just they hit me up the other day and they were like we got we really want to send you one of these and i was like fuck yeah we have them here do you want one no well they're sending me one so we got one i'll give you right now nice yeah they gave us a box of them i give them to people

i fucking believe in them they're not expensive it's real simple super easy to use i put them down on the ground and lie on it it It just like gets in there and dig. And it's not just for the psoas muscle. It's for your whole back. Right. I use it on everything. I use it on my shoulders. I use it on my legs.

Yeah, I saw a video where this guy was doing the outside of his legs and everything with it. Fucking brutal. Yeah. But you know what my favorite is? That Tim Tam thing. That thing right there. You see that? That jackhammer motherfucker?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like an upgraded Theragun. Yeah. That's like even more powerful new ones yeah yeah that thing's amazing and they don't die as quick too a lot of the guys that world's use those those are good they're so good yeah a lot all that kind of recovery stuff is so important guys that think they could just work out and and not take that time and recover

right i was that guy though i was and you you. I mean, when I needed, when this ripped, it was the full tear finally. Like, my tendon exploded. It didn't rip, actually. It exploded. So there was still a little. Was that when you were doing the Hercules thing? No, no. That was after.

That was after. So when that happened, it didn't fully separate. But when I went home and I was training down the road, this was like a little while later. So you didn't even get surgery immediately? You couldn't. You can't. Why? Because first off, if it's muscle or if it's not completely separated, you can't get surgery.

But this, basically what I'm saying is exactly what you're saying, just a different time period. This exploded off the tendon when I was doing a world record attempt for an axle in training. And that, I was like, I knew it was tore right away. But we had the pilot for the TV show we were supposed to film in Nova Scotia, Canada the next day. And I knew what an opportunity it was. So I said, fuck it. I went and took a shower and got on a plane and I flew to Canada. And in Canada, with it completely torn, knowing that I needed surgery and it hurting like the worst pain ever, we had to flip a boat.

So like one of those little row boats, we had to flip it like a tire. Then we carried 300-pound water jugs up a hill. We did like all this stuff with that separated. And the entire time, it just felt like someone was stabbing me with a cattle prod but that one that was meathead but were you worried that you were doing more permanent damage though not on the bicep no once once the bicep goes the only thing worse you can really do is shove it up higher so they have to flay you deeper when they pull it down and lay is a hard word yeah i'm thinking of some fucking inquisition type torture device right but i had i had a great surgeon i was i was taking care of men and um it was it wasn't too bad how long is the rehab two minutes oh no no no three weeks in a cast and then like he gave me

this like uh an arm brace that would like, I'd adjusted every week or so to where it go more and more straight. And then that was maybe three months before I could use it. And at that point, it's not like I could go do what I was doing. It's at that point you start over. Wow. Yeah.

And it was, my arm was like tiny. I was, I was pretty pissed off. Well, even your arm tiny is probably a regular person. Yeah. Yeah. And my arm was like tiny. I was pretty pissed off. Well, even your arm tiny is probably a regular person. Yeah, yeah. But how weird is that? I'm walking around with one arm like this and the other arm looks like it works at some

IT company. Well, you know Boss Rootin? Do you know who he is? Yeah, yeah. I've met him a few times. Boss has what he calls baby arm. He has one arm that's small because of atrophy, because of pinched nerves. It's really kind of fucked up yeah like to this day he i don't think he can hold up a jug of milk

oh shit like he couldn't like hold a jug of milk in his arm and extend his arm yeah that's a guy that for some reason didn't get a lot of the love that he so deserves he was a pioneer savage yeah and one of the most uh like one of the original technical strikers. Right, taking on dudes way bigger than him and still handling them. Like, Hoist Gracie is amazing and savage, but he was doing the exact same thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was just years later. But if Hoist had to fight Bas Rutten, it would have been ugly.

But the thing is, like, in the early days, Bas didn't understand submissions either. So Hoist would have probably got him if it was like ufc one who knows you know it's um it's a crazy sport and the people that have been able to you know like pave the way like a guy like boss rudin yeah they were he's such a good dude too he's so nice he's such a savage he would just shoot cortisone into everything all of his joints are all fucked up because he would just take cortisone shots just shoot it into everything lidocaine shoot lidocaine into his shins oh my god so he could fucking blast people not feel anything he's such an animal he was such an animal he had amazing stories though we went to his gym we did uh i did moss rest moss wrestling is like an an old Russian style of wrestling where you have like a stick.

And you each hold the ends of the stick and try and take it from each other. And we actually, I did it twice, two tournaments. And I was the undefeated American champion for a year and a half after doing it twice. But we went to his gym to do the qualifiers to go to the world championship in Dubai. And he came out there and he was judging and stuff. And I remember like, I basically, I was way bigger than most people and I'm,

I'm like upper body heavy. So I just lean back and take it. And at the end of it, he walked over and he goes, uh, he's like, the force is strong with you, son.

I fucking love this guy. Yeah. He's got a great personality. He's a, he's a great commentator too. It great at that it's fun yeah he makes shit fun yeah he seems like cool dude what's the what's the average lifespan in terms of like how much time you can compete at the highest level for strongman because it seems like you're everything is just so fucking heavy it's everything's gonna almost blow out right like how many years can a guy expect to compete at the highest level it depends on the guy depending we're getting better at holding on

to that kind of stuff and if you make it to the top echelon so that you're saying at the top level um i'd say the average the average is low it's probably like a year two years but if you just took the last five years and kind of cut that out and did your own like like study with that five years i'd say guys now are gonna average more like like three to five years five maybe six if you're doing good but then you have these guys like like brian shaw's been doing it since before i even knew what it was you know brian shaw's four-time world's strongest man out of Colorado. He takes his rehab seriously.

He doesn't care about how much it costs or what it takes. Like, to him, he's an athlete first. So, like, he's got these really amazing, like, cold pools and hot pools right next to each other at his house and all the different type of equipment that he would need to rehab. And he's always making sure he gets body work done two, three times a week. And when we're on the road, like when we were on the road, for me, that was an education because I was with Nick Best, who's 55, and he's still doing this. Really?

Yeah, 55. How? He's just a savage, man. He's an old power lifter, and he's at the point where he needs help to get down to the ground to pick something up. But he's trying to figure that stuff out, and he's definitely going to pay for it for the years of savagery, for sure. But we have him, and then we have Eddie Hall. Eddie Hall is one World's Strongest Man 2017, and he's the strongest person to ever deadlift in the world. He pulled 500 kilos from the ground, which is 1,104 pounds, I believe.

500-kilo deadlift. Just straight stood up with it like it was nothing. Looked around the crowd, made sure they understood he had it like it was easy, and then put it back down. Damn. In a lot of people's opinion, that makes him the strongest man ever to live. Deadlift to a lot of people is king. Then we have Brian Shaw, four times world's strongest man. And he's like a mad scientist with this stuff.

If you go to talk to Brian Shaw about the trajectory of a sandbag or how you want to put your hand placement or where you want to do this or that or anything that has has to do with the science of lifting he can dissect it like basically bill nye the science guy that's what that's what i always call him is that a debo because he gets crazy he reminds me of debo from friday and he makes me look small brian brian's got me by like two inches and like 40 pounds wow and when he gets tired or hungry he starts to get that flex you know and he's like like goes like that like debo calm down but like i'm traveling the world with these guys and i'm i'm basically picking my little pieces out of what they've learned and what they've done because i'm i'm very young in this game i haven't been doing it for a long time i've i'm still i mean i'm getting to the point

now where i feel comfortable calling myself like not a rookie. I wouldn't say I'm a vet. I'm right about that. But I've got to learn like what Brian does for his rehab, how many times he gets massage therapy and what the difference is between massage therapy and a massage or someone who's a PT and someone who actually is fluent in like deep tissue or sports therapy, that kind of stuff. You learn all that stuff. And I never took the time or spent the money. tissue or sports sports therapy that kind of stuff you learn all that stuff and i i never took the time or spent the money honestly i just i never had i was never in a situation where i could spend that money and take care of myself that way it always kind of seemed like a luxury and it's not like for them it's it's maintenance it's like getting the oil changed in your car

do you roll out with a lacrosse ball yes do. Or do you use one of those WOD balls? I use a softball. Road balls? A softball? Yeah, I use a softball because it's big and it's not hard like a baseball. So, I mean, for a lot of people that's too much, but for me it's perfect.

And I actually do a lot of, I try and get a lot of people to do them on the front of their hips too because it's nice like pressure point stuff. Yeah. Really good. Or like an Atlas stone, the balls that we lift the concrete stones

you just roll your stomach over that and just relax and just let it sit there and it kind of just pushes everything back and moves it around you know so i like doing a lot of that stuff i've seen a lot of guys do that with kettlebells as well yeah you lie down on them and roll it over your back because it's unforgiving and it pulls all the tissue apart. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Now, what about food? Like, what kind of diet are you guys on? We all basically eat the exact same thing. We all just eat a ton of meat and rice, and we do a lot of peppers and stuff like that.

No one's vegan? No, no, no. Not any of us top of the world. Isn't there that one guy, that Patrick, what the fuck's his name? There's a vegan strongman I've heard of. I don't remember one guy, that Patrick, what the fuck's his name? There's a vegan strongman I've heard of. I don't remember his name, but he's never been the world's strongest man. Well, there's a documentary they're doing with James Cameron where they're trying to promote him. James Cameron is on this vegan kick.

His wife has a school, and they feed the kids all vegan food, and Arnold's a part of this too. Yeah, that guy. Yeah, I know who that is. He's not one of the strongest men in the world he's he's a strong man and he's strong and i've seen no disrespect i'm not i'm not i'm not saying anything bad about him he's just put that back up again jamie he's just uh he's i don't and from what i recall he's never even been invited to world's strongest man so it's bullshit yeah i mean you can say a lot of things like this guy say say he broke a record in in like uh some powerlifting competition that was in a guy's backyard right and they call that

a world record and then all of a sudden now he's a world record strength athlete because his buddy in his backyard said so a lot of that happens i don't know specifically about him i have no no clue where he's getting his credentials from. He eats one meal a day. See, this is ridiculous. One meal a day and vegan. Vegan professional powerlifter, 2013, set the deadlift world record for his weight class. Oh, so he's like 672 pounds.

For how much does he weigh, though? 672 isn't even big for guys that are like 115 well he's only 5'7 okay so he's smaller than me so they're talking about powerlifting too so once you get into powerlifting there's so many little federations and stuff like everybody and their mother has world records and just this and that so this documentary is touting because that's why i was confused like all the strongmen that I've seen are giants. Right, right. Like, how can a 5'7 guy compete?

I've never seen him anywhere on the circuit or anywhere at a big show. And there is a circuit, like a confirmed circuit with guys like you, Brian Shaw. Yeah, Eddie Hall and Nick Best. Huge giant humans. Yeah, we have Giants Live. Giants Live is the qualifying tour for World's Strongest Man. So to get to Giants Live, you either, there's like a bunch of little federations that you could possibly do well in and they'll invite you. Or, you know, like getting invited is kind of like the only tricky thing, getting in.

But once you get there, if you prove yourself, you get top three. Or if, like, say you go to my first Giants Live I went to, it was, like, stacked. Like, it was 10 of the strongest men on the planet. And normally Giants Live has, like, three of the top 10 and then a few of the other guys trying to get in. And so when I went, it was all the top 10 guys. And I got sixth place, I believe. But I still got invited to World's Strongest Man because it was top the all the top 10 guys and I got uh sixth place I believe but I still got invited to world's strongest man because it was the top 10 strongest men in the world there when I did that so normally you have to go to a Giants live prove yourself there and then you get invited to world's strongest man and sometimes uh like we've had years where world's strongest man got

pushed and was filmed early so they had to invite other guys but you can you can always tell who's strong like you you can see when a guy shows up and and he's ready to go or if he's just got show muscles or if he's just a big chubby dude you know and it's it's i mean you strap a guy to a truck and tell him to pull it 30 meters you're gonna figure that shit out real quick you know yeah i can only imagine it's a shit show for some people well they're because the james cameron thing they're pulling this guy out as if he's some world record power lifter strong man guy he probably has a world record he probably has some type of world record i i've seen him because i've posted videos talking about my, my meals and stuff before. And a lot of people give me that,

like this guy does this and he's vegan. But I've, I, I mean, if the biggest pull he's ever pulled a six 27, then that, that wouldn't even do like, that would get last place at an amateur heavyweight show in America.

And also the other thing is, is America. We have, we have the strongest men in the world too like everyone it's weird in america we have these uh people like um have these this love for other countries everyone wants to be like well i hear in iceland they're really strong or oh in poland they're this and it's like motherfucker we're strong here like we're fucking strong like if if you're an american getting into worlds is the hardest way

to get in if you go to another country it's much easier much easier because here we've got out of the top 10 we've probably got four or five guys four or five guys that are top 10 in the world at any given time and only like three or four maybe five guys get invited every year from america so if you're if you're getting, you've got to be a bad motherfucker or go move to Poland. Actually, Poland's got a bad dude right now. Go move to Lithuania or go somewhere else. It would be easier because you would represent a country with a smaller talent pool.

Yeah, much easier. We bang out here. I believe you. Yes, sir. What about the Mountain, the guy from the game with the Mountain? The Mountain from Iceland? He's legit, right? He's a savage. Yeah, yeah. He won last year. He's no joke, man. He's strong. What about the Mountain? The guy from the game with the Mountain? The Mountain from Iceland? Yeah. He's legit, right? He's a savage.

Yeah, yeah. He won last year. Yeah. He's no joke, man. He's strong. How do you say his name? Hafthor Julius Bjornsson. Just call him Thor.

Say it again? Hafthor Julius Bjornsson. Hafthor Julius Bronson. Bjornsson. Bjornsson. Yeah. He's a savage. He's strong and he's definitely legit. no joke you know he's he's good

he got third place this year he's uh you know isn't he fighting off bell's palsy or something he had he had bell's palsy a couple years ago and um he's i think he's almost all the way better like his is not to be rude but his face always had like a little bit of a like my i've got these huge fat chubby cheeks so i'm allowed to talk shit i guess but he had he had kind of like that look on his face a little bit already so but i i'm pretty sure he's he's probably like oh i'd say at least 99 done and what causes that shit a lot of times it's stress uh it can be an infection i i an infection. I'm not a doctor. I'm just pretending.

You're not a doctor? At the moment. I'm working on getting my license. Jamie. What the fuck is this guy here for? This fucking guy. So all of you basically you're saying eat the same thing. It's just meat and rice basically?

Meat and rice, potatoes. What kind of meat? A lot of times it's bison and um we do that sounds strong yeah i fucking love i love bison how long you in town for uh two more days you got somewhere you can cook yeah i got a lot of elk for you oh my god i love you i have my favorite commercial freezers in the back nice i shot two last year. Really? Yeah, I tried to give it out to as many people as I can. Nice.

Where'd you go? One of them in Utah and one of them in Central California. Nice. Yeah. Nice. Nice. I've always, in Oregon, they got a ton of elk hunting. I've always wanted to.

Those Roosevelt elk in Oregon, they're bigger bodied, too. It's a big animal. Yeah. It's the best meat. It is. In my opinion, the best meat it is by in my opinion the best meat there is is elk by far yeah it's my favorite so good for you too yeah it's it's tastes so damn good too i've never had elk that i didn't like even if the guy cooking it sucked it still came out good yeah it's a crazy taste right it's like people that think that uh that

venison is gamey like first of all just because someone hasn't prepared it correctly, and they didn't take care of it after they killed it. But two, it's like, not elk. No. No, man. That shit is always good. You could have an old bull, like a fucking 10-year-old bull who's been rutting and stabbing other elk with his head, and it still tastes delicious when you cook it. It's fucking amazing. It's the best.

It's the reason why wolves are chasing those motherfuckers. Exactly. It's delicious. They don't know what's going on. So how many times do you eat a day? So right now, it's usually about five. But right now, my five meals are smaller. Like when we're going into worlds, like the last two months, I'm eating those five meals

and then anything else, everything else. Just going crazy. Everything I possibly can. Yeah. And I try and keep it clean, everything else, just going crazy, everything I possibly can. Yeah. And, um, you know, I try and keep it clean,

but you just, you just want it all. You want it. Everything. When you're in a competition, um, how many days is a, like a world's strongest band competition?

World's strongest man is normally, uh, two or three weeks, two or three weeks. It's fucking savage. It's so brutal. So are you working out at all while that's going on? Are you just doing the events?

You're doing the event. And then you immediately try and find someplace cold because normally worlds is in some exotic location that we're selling tourism to so it's like malaysia africa we were in florida this year it's always some hot humid place so they're trying to get people to come to see it right a lot of it's a tourism ad. And it's always beautiful background, right? Beautiful background. Fucking hell on us. It's brutal. Yeah.

But I mean, it's part of what pays for everything. And none of us really, we all know to expect it's going to be hot and humid. We just, now, myself, this is the first time I've had people come with me. Every time I've been to Worlds before, it was just me and my gym bag, and I'm just ready to bang. But now, for some reason, I kept thinking of the sock on the cock thing when I said it. We're ready to bang. We're ready to bang.

I got a question for you. But now, this year and every year forward from now on, I had my crew. My girl was with me and uh two of the guys i train with and they basically so we'll be in our tent and like 400 yards away is them lifting and if i want to know who's doing what or what position they're in or like i'm competing in a group of five i need to know how many points this guy just scored what this guy has like i need to know all that before i would have to walk out there hot and humid find out that come back and be moving back and forth doing all that stuff if i wanted to get food anything it's just a ton of

extra stress this year like they literally wouldn't even let me bend over to tie my own shoes like like they put them on me and had me set and i I was fucking strong as shit, Joe. I'm telling you. Because of that? Everything. Like, the work, too. Like, I really thank Brian, Nick, and Ed for how strong I was this year. Like, just training with them. And then, you know, when you're with somebody, like, you compete.

It's just, if you and I were walking to the door, I'd try and get there faster, you know? It's just the way it is. Right, right right right so doing that for the entire year going in the worlds i showed up and i've i've been going chest to chest with the strong in my opinion brian shaw is the strongest man who ever lived and so i've been going chest to chest with this dude all year you 30 other dudes ain't shit like i'm here to take your money you know right right right so like i felt great and and having them help me and stuff it just it all added up to me feeling the best i've ever felt do you do a lot of ice baths yeah yeah yeah i i didn't before because i i was basically just pussing out and just didn't want

to but they they you have to if you're training with these guys you have to they're not gonna let you slide it's like that that coach that's just like yo you you don't want to okay well twice as long for you when do you do the the ice bath because i was reading something um i think it was andy galpin had a study that he put up about uh hypertrophy and how it um how it affect his it's affected by ice baths right that there's a certain amount of time after lifting you should wait before you get in an ice bath yeah we've all known that for a while yeah it's uh i didn't know that that was new information because a lot of people are just now finding out the way your body reacts after a workout like the pain the inflammation all that stuff you're supposed to allow that for how long for us it's like we'll train normally it It depends on filming because we work 13-hour days on top of that.

And you know filming is fucking exhausting. It's like you did that perfect. Do it three more times. That shit's so crazy. So normally if we train in the morning, we would wait to ice pass to the end of the day. But if we trained immediately after set, set like we got off set we went and trained so it'd be like six or seven at night we'd come back we'd eat and we'd like conversate take our time and then we would go just before bed so it's it's like i think minimum

we would do like like uh two hours or so and i don't maybe that's too long maybe maybe but um you know for us that's like usually just that's our routine we don't want to avoid that stuff because that's kind of your body learning how to deal with that yeah i think that what they were studying was the difference between someone who did it immediately after workout or someone who waited an hour and the waiting an hour was beneficial to muscle growth. Right. Yeah. And it's the same thing with you see people like popping ibuprofen after workouts and stuff. And it's like, bro, you're supposed to feel that. You're supposed to feel that shit. Yeah.

Yeah. It's part of the whole thing. Now, when you're eating these five meals a day, do you have like a meal prep person that sets it up so they have the right amount of calories and nutrients and you're doing it like that? I don't have to worry about that too much. When we're on set, we have caterers and stuff. So it's super easy. And do the caterers like give you bison and rice and shit like that? Oh, yeah.

Always. Everything you need? Everything we need. Nice. That's nice. So when it's that, it's that easy. But when I get home, you get used to that too. So you go home and you try and eat some shitty meat after like three straight weeks of clean food.

Your body is like, what are you doing, bro? Enjoy these farts. Exactly. Exactly. Run my girl out of the house. They'll get bad. And what about drink? What do you drink?

Do you drink just water? Straight water. I switch to those like when we're doing like humid shit, like we're in humid areas. Like a liquid IV. We did those. we did those we did those but and i got off a gatorade and switched to those body armors it's like i think body armors is like less sugar it's just it's way better more electrolytes so it's only i only do those when when we're actually training and it's humid like i i try the best i can to keep myself from like uh allowing that type of stuff unless it's competition so like when it's competition take the fucking ibuprofen drink

the body armor all that shit like this is what you this is the moment you worked for like you want it to be as smooth as possible now but when you're leading up into that it's it's it's water like when i'm when i'm really tired on my diet, like every once in a while, it'll be a Coke Zero, which I'm telling you. Getting crazy. It saves me. It's like I don't get to eat In-N-Out, but I'll have this Coke Zero. It'll be okay. Can In-N-Out fuck with you?

No. In-N-Out's amazing. It's God's gift to us. That can't be bad. Yeah, exactly. How can that be bad? This is for everyone in Texas. I'm so sorry, But In-N-Out

Is a million times Better than Whataburger They're in Dallas now No they're in Dallas They're in Austin They're in New Braunfels Yeah those Whataburger people They're drinking the Kool-Aid

It's wrong You're out of your fucking mind If you're comparing Whataburger You gotta compare it to like McDonald's To Burger King Oh it's better than that In-N-Out's a different show

Like this is A different ticket The only people that fuck With In-N-Out Is Five Guys Okay Five Guys But if you go to Austin And where Onnit is If you go out there There's this place called Like this is a different ticket The only people that fuck Within and out Is five guys Okay five guys But if you go to Austin And where on it is

If you go out there There's this place called P. Terry's There's only three or four of them And they're only in that area I'm telling you They crush everybody Really

P. Terry's P. Terry's P. Terry's P. Like Terry Crews Like T-E-R-R-Y Apostrophe S Really And I'm telling you Like this is not a sponsored ad.

They are the fucking shit. And their fries. In-N-Out's fries are okay. They're not the best. Five Guys have better fries. Way better. And they have Cajun fries. And they have better burger choices, too.

Five Guys. They have jalapenos. Weird jalapenos. Bacon. Exactly. They have shakes. Right. They don't have shakes.

Oh, they do have shakes. In-N-Out's got pretty good shakes too Yeah Five guys didn't have shakes For a while Now they have shakes At some places But they win

With the jalapenos Oh yeah Jalapenos and bacon Yeah The game's over More options Yeah You can't fuck with that

Better buns too Yeah Way better buns That's what I'm saying But when you go to Austin You gotta try Pete Terry's I'm fucking hungry now man What have you done

Pete and Terry's We left We left Evil Live 2 Last night in a limo And and I was like, we've been here for nine hours. We're stopping at In-N-Out. The guy was like, you've never had In-N-Out? I was like, no, I've had it. We're just stopping there. Look at that.

Damn. Pete Terry's. That's Pete Terry's, man. Bang for your burger. You can't fuck with us. That does look goddamn good. Yeah. That looks so good.

And they're only in that area too man really yep they need to branch the fuck out that looks fantastic yeah oh man next time you're there for sure yeah i'm in so um what about supplements like vitamins yeah minerals i actually i uh protein is something i definitely stick to and i do pre-workouts uh depending on like what mood i'm in what kind of protein powder you use i i'm spoiled i do the rtds like the ready to drinks like i'll get those cases at costco man costco's always got great deals but um i like to basically use whatever's easy on my stomach you know like way do you like pea protein hemp what do you like i've had i've had pp was okay it tasted kind of funny. Um, hemp,

hemp's nice. Yeah. Hemp's always nice. And if you can, for me, like, it's just nice to go back to that. Like,

have we ever sent you any of the on it stuff? No. On it. Shit. I wish I had some here. I'll give you some. No. Do we have any on it?

Hemp? Fuck. Maybe. We'll see. It's always nice. I'll get it sent to you, man. Whatever you need.

It's always nice to go back to the hemp. Yeah. For anything. Like if you're doing clothes or anything like that. It's just. It's so easy to digest, too. Right. Hemp protein just like goes.

No problem. Nice. Yeah. It's my favorite. Yeah. And then so I'll do. I do pre's and stuff like that. I actually work with a company called Nanoseutical Solutions that does do vitamins.

And it's basically i'm gonna fuck this all up concussions don't don't fucking don't email me telling me i fucked this up i'm telling you right now i fucked this up okay god email joe okay email joe that's why so nanoseutical solutions they take uh like basically your normal vitamins and they break them down into a smaller bit like normally the smallest way you can you can um it's called bio like the way your body ingested it's called bioavailability there you go thank you that was gonna bug me so the uh so for your body to actually accept it like the lowest we've gotten is to i think micrograms or something like that and the this guy out of san antonio he broke it down into nanograms and he would he's been

working with me i think i'm the only athlete he works with he's a small company and um we've been talking we were working together and i could just tell right away i used to do b12 shots you ever had b12 shot and you know how right afterwards you kind of taste that weird taste in your mouth and you get that energy? Well, with him, he has the sublingual vitamins. So between the B12 and the glutathione, dude, I'm telling you, the B12 was just like getting a B12 shot. What's the name of this company? Nanoseutical Solutions. Nanoseutical Solutions. Nanosutical Solutions.

There we go. James got it. Proprietary manufacturing process allows for the molecular dispersion without excessive heat or breaking of the chemical bonds. This allows the vitamins and supplements to remain unchanged and undamaged when they are absorbed in your body. Fucking I'm in. That's exactly what I said, right?

Didn't I say that? Yes, exactly. Exactly. Methyl B12 Melatonin Glutathione Glutathione's the shit The shit

Nobody knows about it Turmeric and curcumin I just found out that turmeric Has an R in it Yeah I learned it this year I learned that from you I was like

I thought it was turmeric God damn it We're so stupid We are reptiles For sure You and. For sure. You and I, for sure. So I do that. They've got small people out there making vitamins that are nanograms.

Yeah, exactly. So I just try and eat clean and that kind of stuff, you know. We can always tell when our body's acting a little weird or funny. And you can just backtrack a little bit and you're like, oh, I've been doing this a little different or i've had beer fucking six nights in a row like just chill out that kind of shit yeah so most of the time it's self-regulation now you said that they drug test you guys what are they testing for uh they test for everything when we get drug tested at world's strongest man it's for everything it'sest Man, it's for everything. It's steroids. For steroids. It's for.

Everybody has to be on steroids. No? I don't know. I mean, I don't know what to tell you when there's one test a year. Right. So you have to pass that test. You have to pass that test and they can test you randomly too. Randomly? The randomly thing, from my experience, the random thing only happens if you're acting

like you're on amphetamines. If you're acting like you're on amphetamines. If you're acting like you're on amphetamines, they're going to test you. And there's been guys who pop for amphetamines after they randomly tested them. If you're trying to put a sock on your cock. Exactly. If you're screaming at somebody

about cock and sock and all that, you're going to get drug tested. Oh, so that's what, I would imagine that they would worry about that when it comes to lifting, right? Most definitely. you don't want somebody to die on air right you know you can't have that and we're like pulling that truck i'm telling you they stopped using the heart meters because people were losing their fucking mind seeing that their hearts were so high it was like 240 a minute what something like maybe 230 didn't even know you could get that high. That's what everybody else said, so they pulled the fucking meters.

That's hilarious. Yeah. Oh, my God, dude. That's like a jackrabbit. Crazy, huh? Wow. Crazy. 240 a minute.

Fucking A. Has anybody pissed hot for steroids? I believe one person got busted. I would imagine. I don't want to say his name because I don't know if it was for steroids or for meth. What did I say? Amphetamines. Amphetamines.

Yeah, that makes sense. But, I mean, I feel like for steroids, I don't want to push it, but it seems like it'd have to be. I mean, it's a sport where it's built for bigger men, but there's a lot of guys who've gone through and been very adamant that they're not. We get tested. Literally, every year I have to explain to the guy, yes, there's going to be marijuana in my system, and that's in the rules that it says it's okay. I have that conversation every year. And it used to be illegal. It used to be illegal, and we got it switched, I believe, 14.

Did you help get it switched? I brought it up a lot. I don't know if that really changed anything. But I was like, look at these fucking gorillas. You want everyone here on Vicodin? Right. I literally, all I'm saying is we should be able to smoke weed. I'm not saying that you guys should be able to do meth or any of that other shit.

None of that. Well, I think we're finally recognizing, finally, as a culture, that weed is not what everybody thought it was when they were in the 50s and the 30s. Thank God. Thank God. Because, I mean, people were doing so much worse shit. Well, that's why that little Jeff Sessions cunt was driving me fucking crazy when he was the attorney general and he was saying, good people don't smoke marijuana. You're not hanging around with good people, first of all, because good people don't want to hang out with you. Exactly's good people don't smoke marijuana like right you're not hanging around with good people first of all because good people don't want to hang out with you exactly so you don't know what you're talking about and wasn't it

hillary that was saying it was she was gonna do her best to keep it illegal yeah she had some nonsense that she was saying too that was i don't know she'd be fucking who knows that's crazy if i was you and just being honest on this show would scare the living fuck out of me. Because so many people listen. I'd just be worried that sooner or later, like, you know, somebody's... I'm coming for you. Just show up. Hillary just shows up.

Just show up. They carry her. One of the kings they carry with the poles on the shoulders. Those big dudes. She just comes in. Hops out. Moves the veil and peeks and peaks yes that is the one did you see that uh video i put on my instagram with that that dude who made that yeah that was bad robot with the

hillary head inside the body that was so badass who is that guy let's give that guy some props because that fucking animation is amazing put put it up on uh on the big screen it's like one of those things we're like how does this guy even think of this? Where is he buying his weed? Because this is not something that a regular person thinks of. What's his name? BeepleCrap? B-E-E-P-L-E

underscore C-R-A-P and he's got this video of this Trump robot with glowing eyes and one artificial leg moving and the entire body of the trump robot is hillary's giant head floating around in a vat of liquid like a war torn united states i'm guessing soldiers marching with them yeah it's some apocalyptic post apocalyptic scenario but there's all these lights and it's fucking amazing.

It's so dope. And Trump's body is weird and his feet are like baby feet. Yeah, and his hands. They always get, they do their best to just fuck with that. I know.

Because it bothers him. He should have never acted like it bothered him. Did he act like it bothered him? I think he said something about my hand, these big hands after they'd said it.

I don't know. That's hilarious. That's the thing is every dude knows. Like if a guy flinches when you say some shit, you say some more of that shit. Exactly. That's what you do. Exactly. You're not supposed to flinch.

But they're the ones who say you don't body shame. Meanwhile, they're body shaming this poor guy for having little. He doesn't even have little hands. He's got normal hands. Rules don't exist anymore, man. The same artist made this thing too too which is like the opposite of it's like a gorilla yeah if i was trump i would hire a trainer and just get on the best juice dude if i had abs like that i'd never wear a shirt i go to funerals without a shirt on yeah

sorry bro you're dead but i'm jacked in town with you put a sock on your cock yeah i don't yeah i don't i don't think Trump has little hands. They're regular hands, but it is a constant theme. Yeah. But that thing, that Beeple crap guy, is that how you say his name? Beeple underscore crap. He's amazing. He's got some great shit on his page, too.

That's really cool. God damn. Look at that. A giant Kim Jong-un robot. Wasn't Trump just in North Korea right now? Partying with that dude. They probably killed somebody together. I wonder if it was like the interview where he let him drive the tank and they were listening to Miley Cyrus.

Was it Miley Cyrus? What was it? I don't remember. It wasn't Miley Cyrus. It was listening to. In the movie The Interview. Oh, yeah. They were driving around.

Fuck. I don't remember. Yeah. That seth rogan movie yeah hilarious movie by the way i never saw that movie oh you gotta see that shit it's fucking great no you gotta see that one that's good that movie like vanished like i forgot about it huh like until you just brought it up i was like oh yeah i think it's on netflix i'm sure it is yeah all those all those like from super bad brought it up i was like oh yeah i think it's on netflix i'm sure it is yeah all those all those like from super bad got me like i was in love super bad hilarious so you want to be good at sex when you go to college you don't be sucking dick and fucking pussy it's so good who wrote that shit tell me who wrote that so i can say thank you i don't know

man but the scene when he's just drawing dicks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's so ridiculous. It's so crazy. I love movies like that. Yeah. Just preposterous shit. Yeah.

Just like relaxed humor. Yeah, yeah. He didn't care if it bothered somebody. No. He wasn't trying to be a dick, but he was funny. Well, what's interesting is that was quite a few years ago. I wonder if they would even do that movie that way today that's interesting you know i mean that movie was like 2013 there's a movie coming out about three younger kids than the super bad movie and it's

rated r and it seems like it's right along that same vein of like yeah humor and comedy and thank god i forget what it's called but we need more of that yeah it's like the backlash is stronger now than ever before but also the appreciation of it is stronger now than ever before, but also the appreciation of it is stronger now than ever before, too, because people are so tired of people being so politically correct and so upset about everything. Yeah. No one's telling you to be an asshole, but people are jumping on things that aren't even bad.

Right. I'm actually a little nervous about telling athletes that they should smoke weed now like that's that's nerve-wracking because like your whole dependent you're dependent on your boss and the places you work and the things you do right so just saying something like that if two people find that offensive and they raise enough hell sure that's a big fucking deal but what we're just saying is like it's better than vicodin it's better than pills it's it's it's a very much healthier alternative um alternative well you know what it is man it's a tool it's like you can abuse tools but you could also use them correctly right i mean you don't

want to fucking hammer nails with a saw right but but if you use marijuana correctly and you have discipline and you know what you're doing the problem is that it's been illegal for so long people don't understand what the best way to use it for is and what are the side effects what is the you know what's the paranoia what's this heightened sense of awareness that kind of freaks people out like how do you how do you mitigate that how do you how do over it? What's the right dosage? All that stuff is dependent upon information. And when people are lying to you about it being terrible and making you fucking blind and losing your marbles.

Right, you're going to kill people and all that stuff. People are so confused about it that it also makes you more paranoid because as you're smoking, you're thinking, oh my God, I shouldn't be doing this. What am I doing? I'm ruining my life. I can't believe I'm doing that. And then also makes you more paranoid because as you're smoking you're thinking oh my god i shouldn't be doing this right what am i doing i'm ruining my life i can't believe i'm doing that and then you get even more paranoid and then you're like i'm never doing this again exactly yeah yeah now what about sponsors is it ever an issue with sponsors the the weed thing would be would be right now the only people i work with other than myself is that nanoseutical solution so uh he's actually working on doing a cbd thing and stuff i'm i don't

know if i'll be a part of that because i'm trying to there's it's so available now i just i'd rather just find whoever does it the very best and not not market it because it's uh so saturated i just take it for myself actually a lot of people i i worked in uh group homes when i was in college for for kids with autism and um for, for, for a long time. And there was actually this little girl who, uh, she had this, this, uh, it's not a disease. She had this, uh, I'll just call it a thing. She had this thing where she always felt like she was falling. So, so like she looked completely normal.

She was autistic and nonverbal, didn't speak, but imagine all day feeling like you're falling. she was autistic and non-verbal didn't speak but imagine all day feeling like you're falling so she learned as a child really little if she would hit herself that people would hold her so if you weren't holding her she would literally i just watched her break her own nose like she was she was 11 years old this just sweet little girl like just super nice and smiley but like if you didn't hold her she just whack right in her own face. And we found out that through, I don't remember exactly how it came about, but they gave her THC pills. They gave her THC pills and then stopped.

She would walk around the house normally. She was still nonverbal. It's not like it fixed her autism or any of that stuff. But with the whole symptoms of feeling like she was falling, i'm i don't even think had anything to do with autism again i'm not a doctor but um what again yeah yeah you gotta worry about that shit so uh they gave her thc pills and she was like just walking around the house smiling she would help us cook she would move around like she would help the other kids because there's four kids in the house. She would help the other kids tie their shoes, stuff like that.

Oh, that's awesome. Then her parents came back. Must have been four months later. And their friends had guilted them about giving their daughter weed. And they stopped giving it to her. And she went right back to it. Straight back to it. So stupid.

It's just ignorance. People just don't understand what it is. It's all it is. Yeah. Oh, that's so sad. I felt so bad. That was one of the things that just ripped me apart from working in that field. There's so much.

There's these little rules that you don't understand. We had a kid that would sit, right? And he would feel stressed out and he would sit. And the rule was when he did that, we weren't allowed to help him up or move him or anything like that because that was rewarding bad behavior. That's how they classified that. So he would just sit in the middle of the road and we weren't allowed to get him out of the middle of the road.

He would, he would, and then he learned that if he didn't want to do something, he basically would stay in his room all day. He would stay in his room all day because he didn't like it. The only worker he liked was me, and I think it was just because I was big and jolly and all that. But if he didn't like the person he was working with, he'd just sit in his room on the floor, and then they couldn't touch him. They couldn't do anything, and he'd just sit there. He'd go days without eating or going anywhere out of the room or anything like that and it was all because we'd put these rules and and put these chains on ourselves based off of other people's opinions or worrying what it would look like if we did this you know if if this girl's

taking this pill what does that look like or if we're picking this boy up off the ground what does that look like and it was it was it was it was like trying to help these children with your hands tied behind your back. And I don't know if it's like that anymore. It was, this was a long time ago, but it was just, it was heartbreaking. I remember everyone was terrified to work with this little boy. He was 10 or 11. He was just a sweet little dude. He just didn't, he got nervous, you know? And so I remember coming in and one day i was like you know what i'm i'm taking him to go to a football game so i took him to a college division one football game never had an issue never had any problems never sat down nothing

sat second row in the end zone and like would get all excited every time anybody came by like the the cannon went off for a touchdown it was was like the greatest moment of my whole college career was hanging out with this 11-year-old at a college football game. People were too terrified to even get out of his room. That's terrible. But that's so cool that you got him there, though. Yeah. I'd like to think that a lot of people worked more in that direction after I left. I'm hoping.

You could see in his eyes he was a sweet little boy you know you you there's i've never met a kid that was evil ever you just need to know how to how to work with him how to talk with him well that's cool that you have that kind of patience yeah do you have kids of your own i do i have a three-year-old boy oh nice yeah my little atlas bear first one three-year-old wow Yeah. Wow, that's a fun age, man. They start talking to you and they're running around. Telling all the stories and everything. At night now, he doesn't even, like, we have to read books before we go to bed. Because when we go to bed, he wants to tell me stories.

So he'll lay there and he'll be like, well, this one time? And he'll talk for like ten minutes about some shit, you know? It's so sweet and so cute. It's a wild thing having a little person that he made yeah people that don't experience it's it's very very hard to describe yeah it's like the sweetest most lovey most intense sweetness you've ever felt in your life yet the scariest fucking most horrifying thing at the exact same time right you just feel so vulnerable yeah vulnerable is a great word for it i also have so much more compassion for other

people now because i think of other people now as babies that grew up yeah where i used to think oh look at this asshole and i just think oh that asshole used to be a little baby like someone's little boy right someone's carrying him and holding him and he just got bad information and now he's all fucked up yeah yeah i saw some homeless guy today i was at a stoplight he was wearing a bathrobe guy had a bathrobe and socks on it's just dirty fucked up and i was looking at him like this that was someone's baby boy yeah and now here he is a guy in his 30s or 40s whatever he was just wandering around all fucked up and dirty with mental health problems wearing a bath robe and i'm like that used to be someone's boy yeah that's that's it's good for you to feel that

way but it's rough to live like that yeah well it's it's it's so hard when you look at all the problems in the world and all the people that are suffering from poverty and disease and strife and natural disasters and all these things there's just so many people to care about and think about. Yeah. It's almost like you can become paralyzed with compassion. Most definitely. Just looking at all the problems of the world. Yeah.

And then the other side of it, the one that gets me a lot is like when you see parents or you hear about parents. I haven't seen it a lot, but you hear about parents who just don't give a fuck. It's like this is a burden on, and they avoid it and ditch it. When you look at your daughter's eyes, have you ever once in your life imagined being able to walk away from that? No. Fuck. That would kill me. I heard a story about a lady who abandoned her kids the other day.

I just couldn't imagine that. She abandoned her kids and wanted to start fresh. Left the husband with the kids. Just left. Wow. And I was just sitting there going, what in the fuck? And then the fires came and their fucking house burned down. Wow. And so here they are, the dad and the kids, daughters, and the mom fucking jet.

And the guy's there, no house. Fuck. I'm like, oh, Jesus man yeah man it's uh it's rough because you got to wonder like what is wrong with that person like what kind of schizophrenia are they dealing with kind of mental health issues like what is right how could you do that like how do you not like you think about what you experience with your son and i think about what i experienced with my daughters and like how could you how could you not want to be there for them how could you not want to take care of them how could you not want to love them that's there's some kind of disconnect man yeah what happened well I mean you think about

that poor girl who kept punching herself in the face because she thought she was falling like there's obviously an issue there like what other issues are there psychologically what empathy issues detachments you, sociopathy. What's wrong with them that they can allow that in their life? There's almost too many people, man. It's almost too much to pay attention to. Yeah. Well, I mean, legitimately, it's hard to say, but it is too much. Yeah.

It's hard to say that and accept it, but it is. I mean, that's how a lot of people end up going crazy yeah paralyzed from fear or worry yeah that's where we comes in yes just you just worry about other shit think about aliens aliens if you had a guess i'll turn around on you what do you think about aliens do you think bob bizarre is telling the truth i know you didn't look him in the eye because you weren't in the room with him yeah but i i told you i was i'm i'm the one of the the creepers that watch the youtube video i'm that guy right there i sit at home i don't really watch much tv like i i'll sit at home and like stretch and watch or watch these videos so it's

i think it's a whole new thing to it like Like, it adds an element that I really like. Like, being able to see Miss Pat. Dude. Oh, yeah. Fucking hilarious. Like, the entire time I was, like, glued. Everybody. I mean, I've never. She's so funny when she talks about broke dudes are great at slinging a dick.

You know who I love is Ari. Ari's subtleness. Like, oh, man. He's fucking hilarious. Well, I would imagine that for like a guy who's doing such ruthless fucking explosive shit like you're doing all the time like comedy must be kind of important for sure it's a huge release plus i mean like i like it and a lot of my friends were that like i was friends with a lot of guys at the comedy store

so i was around it like i i even i thought about doing it for a while i just i know i'd have to dedicate so much To even be decent That I just couldn't do that But like It's It's one of those things I like to

Tate tried it for a little bit Yeah Yeah I was with him I was hanging out with him a lot When he was working on material And stuff I remember he came over And he gave me

This badass poncho One time He just randomly came over To give me a poncho Sounds like Tate Yeah And then he wanted to hang out. And we were sitting out on my deck and he was working.

We were just chilling. He was, he's like, it's so cool. What are the, what's that quote? It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war. Yes. That's Tate. Yeah. That's Tate.

Yeah. And that's similar to you. It's a lot of guys like that. You see a lot of these guys who are just, they're built ready to go. If some shit went down, I would happily stand next to you. I'd feel secure. But you don't have to worry about if you come in here, you're not going to have fake lat syndrome and flex up on somebody. Not being an asshole.

That's one of the things you do see with fighters too is that most of them in general they're really nice people yeah because they don't they're not always puffing their chest out for no reason and acting like an asshole for no reason they're nice folks yeah they get all that shit out they get it out in the gym and if if you're a bad motherfucker you don't have to act like a bad motherfucker you can just be you exactly you know that's why i wear pink chucks and strong and pretty shirts and shit you know like i don't have to act like i'm bad i just do it exactly well no one's disputing it exactly exactly online they sometimes do online of course who are they are they even real that's the people i'm

saying i'm not a doctor for oh for them yeah but for the aliens um what do you think if you had a bet if i if you had a hundred bucks your last hundred bucks it's it's hard i if if i had a hundred bucks and we were gonna find out i'd say i'm leaning more towards yes than no i'm leaning more towards yes too i wasn't leaning before that interview i wasn't though i wasn't before uh the documentary that jeremy corbell documentary uh bob lazar area 51 and flying saucers before that i was like mostly bullshit is that one is that one available netflix yeah it's great yeah i'll check that there's a lot of old bob lazar shit too from the george knapp interviews where he goes over the the details of the craft and he describes it

and explains it and that motherfucker knew about Element 115 in the 1990s. That's one of the big ones that gets me. That's one of the big ones that's like, that's a big red flag that this dude's real. There's a lot. Who knows, but there's a lot that makes me go, hmm. I know you talk about this all the time, but I so fucking wish Sasquatch was real.

I do, man. every time i'm in oregon or in washington i'm walking around i buy all the little like roadside trinkets and shit i love that shit i wish he was fucking real man it would be nice but i think we would have found a dead one you would have it's i mean that's that's one of the ones i'm like 90 sure you got to give you always got to give room you you always gotta give room for the the possibility the thing is when people really believe and then go looking for it they invest so much time in it they start going crazy yeah like survivor man less drought yes he's gone gone gone he's gone he's out there in the woods yeah he's got a pup tent waiting for bigfoot to knock

out the fucking zippers yeah it's weird man he's a hundred percent believer now and he does that survivor man bigfoot show he's like what i heard a branch snap cut the commercial that's definitely a squatch yeah those shows are weird man because those shows have been on tv like surviving bigfoot or finding bigfoot rather so finding bigfoot was on tv for like what eight fucking years they never found shit no like how the fuck do you keep renewing that show exactly i'm gonna breathe underwater the show's called breathing underwater can you breathe underwater not yet tune in next week next season though we're gonna try again to breathe underwater figure this shit out y'all just give us an off season we'll get this i'm talking to these

scientists they're saying no one can breathe underwater not yet they don't know shit trust me honestly we south louisiana we got a guy. He breathes underwater. If there was a Bigfoot, no one would be happier than me. Dude. I'd be right there, though. I'd be so fucking stoked. Man, just seeing it in a cage. Yeah.

Just fucking trying to get out, looking around at people. No, not cage, though. I want to see it in Pick of Destiny, like the mushrooms trip where he's walking and singing with him. Oh, right. In Jack Black's Pick of Destiny. Pick of Destiny. Like the mushrooms trip where he's like walking and singing with him. Oh, right. In Jack Black's Pick of Destiny. Pick of Destiny. I would want to be there. I wouldn't want to see it with my own eyes.

For sure. A video, I'd be like, man, I saw 80-foot tall Donald Trump with a Hillary Clinton head. Right. Exactly. Powering it. Walking through a post-apocalyptic Philadelphia. You can't prove to me that video is real i need to see it i would i would shit my pants i don't know what i would say though

if i was in the woods and i was camping and i saw a fucking nine foot tall gorilla i don't know what i would say you wouldn't i mean if you came back my mouth shut you probably have to yeah because you'd be so you feel so stupid yeah well plus i mean there's a lot i mean say there is one out there there's a lot of I mean, say there is one out there. There's a lot of bullshit artists out there telling you they saw some shit. A lot of people trying to get some camera time. There can't be one, though. If it's going to be a real thing, a living thing, there has to be a living population of them.

Yeah, because primates don't live that long. I don't think there's a primate that lives any older than humans. We're just way into the weeds. We know it doesn't exist most likely sucks yeah as they like get better and better like using drones and scanning the forest and stuff it's getting less and less likely yeah i used to do that as a kid though like walk out in the woods and like look and hope he was around you know yeah when i was living in oregon i was like hell's canyon is probably one of the least explored parts of Oregon. If he was anywhere, he'd be up there.

Well, there's some dense-ass thick forests in the Pacific Northwest, which is one of the reasons why I think it's so attractive. Because you think, man, anything could be in here. No one knows. You go outside of Philadelphia or Seattle, when you go into, what is it? What's the mountain out there? What's the? St. Helens. St. Helens.

St. Helens is the one that blew, but there's another one that, anyway. Those big-ass mountains filled with soup. The trees are so dense, it's like a box of Q-tips. Yeah. Just one after the other. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And the forest floor is all pine needles so that nothing would leave a footprint. And then you look you're

like what if you saw something 30 yards away it could disappear instantly left right you wouldn't know where the fuck it is you'd never find it and it could it could be out there so i think that also leads to this this delusional idea that it might be alive right but i think it definitely was a real thing you think back in the day yeah they have that gigantopithecus yeah that they've proven was a a real uh bipedal hominid that existed as recently as a hundred thousand years ago and in america no it was in asia they found it in an apothecary shop there was an anthropologist who was in an apothecary shop right right found teeth and he was like what the fuck is this?

And they said, we found these. And he's like, where did you find these? Because he recognized them as primate teeth. And then they started digging. They found jaw bones that were indicative of a bipedal hominid. Because of the shape of the jaw bone, they could tell the difference between the way a gorilla's bones are shaped and the way ours are. Yeah. And they think it was in the orangutan family that it

was enormous some enormous fucking eight to ten foot tall bipedal ape yeah so stories that build and build into something that's probably where the the lore and the legend comes from you never seen like a picture of what it looks like i i don't know i i remember you talking about it on here i don't remember um if i saw a picture yeah you could find it on google there's pictures of it standing next to like a standard you know like six foot tall man like when i'm a regular size man would be like standing next to this giant ass fucking gorilla that really did live it really did live and it lived alongside people while people were real people they know at least 100,000 years ago it was alive.

That's what it looked like. Oh, shit. Yeah. That's a depiction of him. There's a few different versions of that. We'll get that other one with the arm up in the air, Jamie, in the lower right-hand corner. No, no, no, no. Go up.

Up. I have this one. Go. See those pictures? I see that when you have those little pictures In the little windows below it See the one with his arm up in the air Yeah click that one

That's the one Jesus That's what it looked like That shit would fuck you up I bet you it was fast too Yeah Probably super fast But see how it's kind of like

Orangutan looking That's what they think They think it was kind of a member Of the orangutan family Looks like my dad But it was a real thing but it's just funny how like we want those things to be real yeah we want mysteries to be real yeah it's part of the reason why you have to really worry or wonder whether or not someone's telling the truth because the

desire for something to to be real so strong like ufos yep the same thing people want to believe god so hard to be objective what about with all that stuff hotep was saying on here because like a lot of it he sounds like way more intelligent than i was expecting when i first turned it on i didn't really know much about him but then about africans traveling the world in boats well about them being in america first or about them like giving that technology to rome like he said a lot of stuff that like i mean obviously again i'm a meathead and i'm not like the smartest man on the planet but he's made a lot of sense from what he was saying well for sure when people think about

africa they forget about egypt right and egypt is one of the most fascinating and absolutely spectacularly advanced civilizations of all time. We have no idea how they built those structures. There's all this speculation about the, especially like the Great Pyramid. This is a stunning technological and physical accomplishment that to this day baffles people. That's Africa. So those people had boats. And we don't even know how long.

So those people had boats, and we don't even know how long – I mean, Graham Hancock believes, and so does Robert Shock and John Anthony West when he was alive, believes that those people were building those things tens of thousands of years ago. That is like a spectacularly creative and innovative society that was most likely wiped out by some sort of global cataclysm around 12,000 years ago. And then everything after that was a rebuilding of past knowledge. Right. So it would make sense if they had traveled to South, South parts of America and then just basically everything got wiped out. And so they're, they're working from a fresh start in America. And then over on this side,

they don't have the information about that because they all got wiped out well it certainly makes sense when you look at the olmecs those those giant stone heads that look like african faces i mean they look exactly like africans and these are heads that came from thousands and thousands of years ago in a civilization the olmecs that they know very little about yeah so i felt like i felt like i was crazy for thinking he wasn't crazy for some of the shit he was saying well it's like the the history of humans is something that becomes more it unveils itself over time and the more they're starting to find new things like there was something of the there was some ancient castle that they just discovered that used to be underwater that's like 3 500 years old you know i'm talking about like the receding flood water yeah yeah there was some ancient castle that they just discovered that used to be underwater.

That's like 3,500 years old. You know what I'm talking about? Like the receding flood water. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They felt like, what the fuck is this? They like,

they don't even know what it is. So 3,500 years ago, long before Europeans ever came to America, these people had built this fucking castle that is now underwater. You're like the sea levels rise and fall. That's it. Yeah. Whereas I think it's in Iraq. Oh yeah. It is in Iraq. Yeah're like, the sea levels rise and fall. That's it. Yeah. Whereas I think it's in Iraq.

Oh, yeah, it is in Iraq. Yeah. So they found these ancient. Now, Iraq is also where Sumer was. That's the earliest known civilization in terms of the earliest known writing, the earliest known agriculture and mathematics. That's Sumer.

That's the Epic of Gilgamesh. All that shit came from that part of the world so there's all sorts of stuff that was probably lost in that you know thousands and thousands of years of history it's amazing it's so fascinating to be there just like i like this place that i was in in italy there's a church in ravello that's a thousand years old and below the church there's a glass floor of the church. There's pictures of it on my Instagram. It's a glass floor of the church, and below the glass floor is another church that's so old,

they don't even know when it was built. Oh, wow. So it's more, that's it. That's from my Instagram. That's so fucking cool. So they have it blocked off off and they put a glass floor over it so you could look down and see it because they don't want you know people to tread on it and fuck with it but the church itself the just the the church that you could walk around in

is a thousand years old right you know it's like what and we're working off information that's basically just been since we started writing things down. Yeah. We've got this little short time period where we started writing things down. I mean, acting almost as though that was the beginning of time. And you have to take people's word for it. Exactly. Exactly.

No pictures, no video. And the same thing with the aliens and the Sasquatch. There's some things that you want to believe. So you throw that in there. And history was written by the aliens and the Sasquatch. There's some things that you want to believe. So you throw that in there. Yeah. And history was written by the winners. Exactly. So a bunch of lying assholes that killed everybody.

We are the champions, my friends. My son loves that song. Between that one and We Will Rock You, we were in a limo yesterday. He was like, put on We Will Rock You. So I'm cranking we will rock you my three-year-olds in the back deal boom boom he's so excited that's awesome yeah that's a when you think about fucking classic songs man queen had a gang of classic songs that just worldwide to this day that are used at basketball games and football games

all over the world yeah yeah huge such an icon yeah john jones came out to we are the champions yeah this this last one yeah nice i i didn't get to see the fights how did i know john went to uh uh it was a split decision yeah how did that fight man fucking tiago santos is dangerous he hit john with some big shots fucked his legs up with kicks to the point where John had to be carried out. Yeah. When he walked out of the octagon, they were carrying him. Wow. He couldn't walk.

His legs were fucked up. That guy kicked the shit out of his legs. Yeah. And Tiago blew his knee out somewhere in the first, we believe. Oh, shit. He threw a kick and blew his ACL out, but never even winced. Dude. He hobbled around on that knee and just kept throwing kicks with it and everything.

That's fucking crazy. It was an awesome fight. You think he fought? Again, I'm not projecting anything. I didn't get to see the fight. Did he fight well enough to earn? Suffered extensive damage to left knee. He had surgery already.

Out for the rest of 2019. Oh, shit. Well, there goes the question. I was going to say, do you think he earned another shot? Well, he definitely did. He proved he was worthy. Yeah. He had a split decision. What? What's up? question i was gonna say do you think he earned another shot well he he definitely did he proved he was worthy yeah he had a split decision what what's up complete ligaments torn in his left knee oh yeah there you go yeah i kind of we we kind of saw it looking at it yeah shows left knee meniscus

and all his ligaments are completely torn wow The meniscus and all the ligaments. That's brutal. Jesus Christ. And he still stood in there for four fucking rounds. He needed surgery on his right knee earlier this year. Also suffered damage during the fight. As he compensated for his left knee. Oh, man.

So he doesn't even know if he might need tests on his right knee as well. But you know what? The good news is the ufc doctors are the top of the food chain they'll fill that motherfucker up with stem cells and do everything they can to rebuild some of that inner tissue good he deserves it if you're gonna stand in there and put it all on the line like that you know give that man his fucking stem cells if they fight again john jones fucking power doubles him takes him to the ground wrestle yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think. I was shocked that he didn't do it. I read, I don't know if it was on his page or on one of the, like MMA Junkie or something,

but he said that it was pride. He didn't want to do that. Yeah, that's crazy. That's John, though. But pride almost cost him the title. Yeah. Like, what if Tiago clipped him and dropped him in the third round, and then won that round on all the judges score cards and then he won a decision yeah he almost lost the title because crazy i mean i don't i don't agree necessarily with the guy who gave it to uh who

gave it to tiago i'd have to watch it and see how they thought it and because when you when you're calling a fight i'm trying to be entertaining i'm looking for patterns but i'm not really scoring it right to score it i think you have to do in silence right yeah so i'd have to see whether or not i agreed with them but it was definitely close it was definitely interesting and a lot more interesting a lot of people thought a lot of people thought john was going to blow him out of the water yeah that's what i was expecting you know i've messed around just like you know like bro like like uh pushing him around and stuff like that. And he's way stronger than I would expect.

Oh, he's strong as fuck, man. Strong as shit. He took Daniel Cormier down. He's a motherfucker, dude. And I think when he goes up to heavyweight, he's going to be even stronger. And I think that's probably what's going to happen next for John. Well, yeah, he fucking should.

Yeah. Winner steep in the Daniel fighting. That's out here in august august that is um yeah that's in august and that's at anaheim yeah oh man dc and steep a2 that should be very interesting too i don't even know who to root for because i fucking love steep a i love him but like i i've got a i i feel like i have to love daniel because everyone else for no fucking reason doesn't. They do now.

You think more and more he's getting more love? The tide's turned. Good. The tide's turned. Because he fucking deserves it. I mean, he's a bad motherfucker. Especially when he knocked out Stipe with one punch. That turned the tide.

Nice. Good. Good for him. When he beat Anthony Johnson, that turned the tide. People get it now. For a while, though, they were looking at him like he's illegitimate. Yeah, that's absurd. Welcome to the world of MMA.

Pettis versus Diaz is on that card, too. And Yoel Romero versus Polo Costa. I can't take it. All right, brother. Let's wrap this up. It's already 3 o'clock. We've been doing this for three hours. Holy shit.

Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Time flies. So tell people again When this show is on the History Channel We're on Wednesday nights It's Strongest Man in History With me, myself, and Eddie Hall

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