The Joe Rogan Experience - #1339 - Everlast

Episode Date: August 21, 2019

Everlast is a Grammy Award-winning American rapper, singer, and songwriter. His new project “Everlast presents Whitey Ford’s House of Pain” is available now on Spotify. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is that thing you say when you clink glasses? Sláinte is like the Irish, you know, salute or, you know, Nostrovia. It's just the Irish version, sláinte. Sláinte? Sláinte, yeah, like S-L-A-I-N-T-E, I believe is how I spell names. Sláinte. Ooh, I never knew that. You've said it before and I always just let it slide because I didn't want to seem like a dork.
Starting point is 00:00:25 I'm probably saying it real, I mean, like let it slide, because I didn't want to seem like a dork. You know? That's one of those things. I'm probably saying it real, I mean, like, you know, Gaelic is some real harsh, like, vowels. Gaelic's crazy. It's a crazy, like, I've seen Gaelic names that, like, were spelled insane, and it was, oh, that's pronounced Sean. I mean, like, some crazy shit like that. That's a wild, ancient language, right language right yeah for real though i love irish people man i just i'm fucking fascinated by the wildness of that culture well that's what god
Starting point is 00:00:54 made whiskey you know so the irish would so the irish would never rule the world when you see a guy like a guy like conor mcgregor that part of what is him is irish he's like a pure like brilliant irish you know i'm talking for sure all the way motherfucker knows how to take a loss knows how to take a loss takes a loss like a man and still talk shit you know come right back to my it's like that you know that that guy that you you fight but he loses but you know you're gonna have to fight him tomorrow yes or as soon as his
Starting point is 00:01:27 shit is healed up and the busted upness is gone he's got like a hundred million dollars in the bank and he still wants to fight people
Starting point is 00:01:35 still smacking people at bars yeah that's that's it's what is he doing it's hard what is he doing
Starting point is 00:01:42 don't do that don't do that nah not that who knows what be like, ah. Don't do that. No, not that. Who knows what the fuck the guy said to him. But it looked like the guy was old as fuck. Someone said he was only 50, that the guy was only 50. Dude didn't fold up, though. He just kind of sat at the bar.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Conor didn't really. Yeah, he smacked him. He gave him a smack in the back of the head. Gave him a couple of fingers. He touched him. He did what we call mushed him. He mushed him. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:06 It can kind of be interpreted as hitting, but it really ain't quite a hit. When you're a guy like that, you're basically walking around agreeing not to fuck people up because you have to kind of agree to not fuck people up. The money he's got, there should be like five guys around him that make sure that never happens. Yeah, but they can't listen to him. If you have a guy like him he's gonna do whatever he wants even if there's a bunch of people around him stopping him you're not gonna
Starting point is 00:02:30 stop him from doing checks when he threw that guy's phone down the ground stomped it in miami there was all the bodyguards there he just did it he just did it he's conor mcgregor he's fucking look he's living like you're supposed to live if you're Conor McGregor. The dance is don't go to jail, dude. Don't get locked up. And it's also the whole structure of the way things are now as far as like entertainment. It's like, it's all about eyeballs. Well, he fucking figured it out, man. He's pulling eyeballs.
Starting point is 00:03:00 He figured it out. He figured it out, man. Like in the most crazy way possible. He figured out how to just blow up the whole system. When you're a guy who has been fighting. I mean, I contacted him on Twitter in like 2013. Right? By 2018, he's worth $100 million.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yeah, so quick. And he called it all the way. And he called it all the way and he called it all the way that's the craziest part is he called it all the way like i'm gonna be you know a billionaire a multi-millionaire you know what dana white said to me once about him that's dead on he said he eats pressure he said that guy eats pressure he just eats it he goes he just he just goes in there and the more pressure experiences the better he can perform it's true it's like you look at the aldo fight it's picture perfect left hand knockout i mean it doesn't get any prettier the timing the setup the patience the movement the setting it up looking for him to leap in and bang catching him when he's coming
Starting point is 00:03:59 in pretty sure he said exactly those that's exactly what he said he was going to do right before the fight too oh that's me tweeting him in january of 2013 i saw his fight in i think it was cage warriors i think that's the promotion cage wars or cage warriors i think it's why am i fucking that up cage wars is there two different ones there probably is this is probably a bunch of cage stuff. But either way, he was fucking people up overseas. I was like, this kid's for real. He just sees something sometimes. He sees, like, I watch a video.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I see how a guy moves. I'm like, Jesus. Some guys just have something. And he had just ridiculous timing. So relaxed in there. Those were fun fights, man. His early days of MMA, it's like you can go back and watch him and you go, oh, this guy's going to be special. He's got like a weird sense of timing. You know, he's like, he's just very good at understanding where you're at and knowing how to put it on.
Starting point is 00:04:58 He just had me winning, you know, the whole Irish thing. That's it. Oh, for sure, man. We built a city. Dude. Dude. I love it. I's it. Oh, for sure, man. We built a city. Dude. I love it. I love it. Yeah, when he was like, we all fight together. When he's in the room,
Starting point is 00:05:12 if he wins a fight, and the crowd's filled with 7,000 Irish people, you feel it. You feel goosebumps. It's crazy. You do everything you can to stop just to keep yourself from crying. The beauty of it. This guy standing there in front of thousands of people that have flown overseas to see him fight.
Starting point is 00:05:30 It's insane how many people fly over. Dude, it's crazy. They take over the fucking Vegas hotels. Take over. Like, where you have seas of singing songs. Didn't they shut down like 7th Avenue in front of Madison Square Garden? There's not a fucking fan on earth like Irish fans. They're different.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I used to think Brazilian fans were crazy until I saw the Irish fans. They take over. The whole Mandalay Bay was taken over by people singing. It was all Irish people. And doing a fair amount of drinking. Oh, fair. More than fair. But just the fact that they could do that that they can gang get together and sing
Starting point is 00:06:07 the same song like thousands of them together singing the same song i remember the first time uh when we went to ireland it's house of pain and uh in between songs they broke into the whole you know all the soccer chant stuff and we were just like whoa this is crazy you know we never experienced anything like that. They don't do that at the sports events at home back then, not back then at all. So that was amazing. Culturally, it's that soccer shit is real. They have to have Conor fight in Ireland once.
Starting point is 00:06:40 He's got to fight in Dublin in a soccer stadium. Fuck yeah, right? Why not? Why not? Why not? If he's ever going to fight again, that's when they should do it. I think the idea was that it's like more money in pay-per-view if you fight in Vegas. And Vegas is worth a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Doesn't the time have a lot to do with it, too, when they do it on the European thing? They've got to do the whole weird time thing over there so they can accommodate the pay-per-view here. Yeah, it'd be real weird. They'd be fighting at like 4 in the morning or something. It's always real weird to me when I wake up and there's like a South American fight that happened at noon and I'm like, oh, God, I missed. Or Japan, like Rizin. If you're trying to watch Rizin, they have it in Japanese time. That's how Pride used to be.
Starting point is 00:07:23 We would have guys come over to my house and we would watch Pride at like 3 o'clock in Japanese time. That's how Pride used to be. We would get up at, like, we would have guys come over my house, and we would watch Pride at, like, 3 o'clock in the morning. Like, sometimes they would have them live for some reason. If I'm remembering it correctly, sometimes they would have them live, and sometimes they would have the fights, and you knew what happened, but you didn't get to see it for, like, a couple of weeks. They would delay it in North America for some strange reason. They didn't didn't didn't
Starting point is 00:07:45 totally do it live i was hip to that mma share thing a long time ago they always had the bootleg videos and don't tell anybody that's like voldemort don't say that did i did i just mess up i don't know people get mad i thought it was gone anyways that That was 10 years ago, dude. Illegal streams. Yeah. The funny thing is, dude, UFC is gangsters with that. It used to be you could watch those. And then over time, because in Europe before there was things like Fight Pass, things like that, you couldn't find a pay-per-view if you were stuck over there at four in the morning in the middle of somewhere. So you would lean on whatever you could as a fan.
Starting point is 00:08:24 But you started seeing them shutting them down. the middle of somewhere so you would lean on whatever you could as a fan and but they they start you started seeing them shutting them down like it doesn't they're they're gangsters the ufc are gangsters yeah it's a it's a big money business people fucking people up impressive is what it is it's impressive it's like there's like there's a army of motherfuckers somewhere going oh yeah oh yeah some of it must get through, right? The internet just has stuff that gets through. I don't know. I got the Fight Pass now, so everywhere I go, I got the Fight Pass,
Starting point is 00:08:52 and you have that little static IP address, so when you are out in the country, that's perfectly normal. You know what's weird? Why aren't they showing – I need to ask the UFC this. Why don't they show the knockouts on their Instagram page? They show when the knockout's over. Have you noticed that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I do not understand. I don't understand. Because once everybody knows, they know. Everybody knows, they know. It's not hurting anybody to watch it. Like it'll just hype up the fight. Is replay business a lot of business? I wonder what the replay buys are. Like the cats who just missed it and bought the replay.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Maybe that factors in. I'm sure. They probably make a nice second round of money on that replay. Right. So how long do you think they should hold off? For like a week? A day or two, maybe? Yeah, a week.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Tops. A week. A week and then put the highlights on. For sure. Do they do that? Do they ever show? I get this weird impression that they only show like right after the finish well like on the instagram now no they have they'll show entire fights on
Starting point is 00:09:50 instagram now but old fights like old fights yeah so i'm pretty sure they showed steep bay just pulling off of dc was that the case that was a great i got my whole phone got blown up because apparently i'm right in the background when that happens like oh no i don't know i haven't seen it but i got my phone blew up right there dude that was that fight was chaos that fight was chaos that was fun i had an amazing time that card i should say that card fight card was chaos yeah that was a wild one man in anaheim it was hard watching dc get hit with those fucking body shots yeah that was dude as soon as he started digging in, it was like, oh, wow, something's happening. Dude, Stipe's nasty. He wanted that belt back.
Starting point is 00:10:31 The shots he took. Incredible. You know, we were talking about Yoel. The shots Stipe took and just walked through him like. Wow, it was crazy because D.C. managed to put him away with one punch the first time. That he didn't see coming. Yeah. He didn't see it coming.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Everything he got hit with was hard as hell but he saw it all coming yep and he didn't let him get in that little right in his chest there because that's he got that short one on him that last time that's exactly what happens if you're not prepared if you don't think you're going to get punched and you relax for a minute and then you get punched by something you don't see coming you can get fucked up and when you're in a fight with a greco-roman wrestler of the caliber of dc who knows how to manipulate you and he just manipulated him perfectly into that right hand and it was a beautiful work of art but he was never able to hit him like that in the second fight like as cleanly and have that kind of an effect the shots he hit him with were
Starting point is 00:11:21 pretty good shots but stipe ate him and then, oh, Stipe could take a fucking shot. He just got clipped. He just got caught. He could take a fucking shot. And he was there in the fourth round, which is really impressive. Like in the fourth round, he was looking good. He recognized as soon as he touched that lever shot that it was a problem. Something happened there.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And it hit him. He dug in like four or five straight times, man. Dude, you cannot let a guy like that punch you in the liver that many times. I'm sure DC obviously didn't want him to do that, but that's how good Stipe is. Respect to DC, though. Yeah, respect to DC. I love that guy. That was a great fight.
Starting point is 00:11:55 He's one of my favorite people to do commentary with, man, for sure. He's the best. He's so fun. He's hilarious. Like when Rose Namajunas Knocked out Ioanni Njacek And he's like
Starting point is 00:12:08 Fuck Rose Fuck Rose I'll never forget that Like that is what I love Like he's Those are forever moments He's so free He's so free
Starting point is 00:12:16 That in the middle of Like this We're calling a world title fight He's just DC He could be himself And it's He's got a great personality man And he's a hell of a fighter And he was dominating In the first round What you think He's just DC. He could be himself. He's got a great personality, man.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And he's a hell of a fighter, and he was dominating in the first round. Do you think he's going to fight again? I think he's going to want to fight Stipe again, if I guess. If I really guess. I mean, if he wants to do it again, he's going to want to fight Stipe again. Because he's going to want to. I think the way he described it is right that wrong. That he just didn't fight well. He didn't listen to his corner. I think that's he described it is right that wrong that he did he just didn't fight well he didn't listen to his corner um I think that's what he thinks um it's like he fought really well in
Starting point is 00:12:51 the first round and then uh Bob Cook was yelling at him in the second round keep your damn hands up you know and he he was like walking him down like almost like disdainfully like walking him down and I don't know if that was part of strategy to psychologically put up a lot of pressure on stipe you know to try to establish that stipe's done that he's the champ now but it was almost like disdainful but stipe survived so and he just was there and he was in there in really good shape in rounds three and rounds four that was what was really impressive about it i was i was amazed especially after getting fucked up quite a bit in that first round. I mean, there was a couple times where I thought he was going to be – like, dude was going to get him. Yeah, DC was all over him in that first round.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And when he picked him up and dumped him, you're like, Jesus Christ, DC's good. Jesus Christ, he's good. He just didn't maintain it. That's exactly what it was. And then Stipe made the adjustment. And, you know, who the fuck knows? He might decide, you know what? My body doesn't want to do this anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I'm done. I know he made a ton of money. And I know he's really good as a commentator. And he'll do that forever. For sure. Or he might want to do it one more time. But then there's always Jon Jones lurking, man. I mean, I feel like everybody knows, like, that's the biggest rivalry in MMA.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Isn't it? Isn't it? Yeah, but I mean, the only thing you, like, if you're going to talk about accolades of Cormier's, he has everything, all those championships, but there's that little asterisk on the light heavyweight belt that he never really got it from John. But that's the weird part about it, right? It's like when you're a champion, but the champion who's the real champion didn't lose it and then they have an interim champ like what are we doing here what what does that is he got never come back and and and shown that he's he's still him like and hopefully god willing for him keeping all his stuff together and yeah it would have been different if he just kind of faded into the
Starting point is 00:14:43 distance then then it changes that narrative but he came back and and he his original thing was like you ain't that guy i'm that guy still yeah it was crazy i mean that's how crazy good john is really that's how crazy good john is i'd love to see that though and the way dc was able to beat rumble twice rumble to me was always that's my dude that's my dude that's my dude he's so ferocious his punching is so fucking explosive man he's just got so much power when he knocked out glover to share with one punch i was like god like when i first met him he was he was a much smaller dude when he's 2170 yeah yeah He used to work out with some friends of mine that used to work out in this little MMA gym that was off Melrose and La Brea.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I think it was called LA MMA at the time or something like that. Before he wound up in Colorado, I think. Dude. I've known that dude a while, man. He's a good dude, man. He's so ridiculously powerful. He's a really nice guy. Yeah, he's a good dude.
Starting point is 00:15:41 His fucking power is preposterous, though. And then when I seen him come back on the 205, that's what I was like. Yeah. Blew my mind. He's a really nice guy Yeah he's good too His fucking power Is preposterous though Like But it was And then when I seen him Come back in on the 205 That's what I was Yeah Blew my mind I was like
Starting point is 00:15:49 Flatline people at 205 But it was interesting man His His retirement Was like one of the most Honest And like It was like
Starting point is 00:15:59 He was like happy with it Cause he was like Man I'm not a fighter I'm an athlete I'm just good at this I was like wow That's not a fighter i'm an athlete i just i'm just good at this i was like wow that's really that's that's interesting interesting he grows weed now and raises dogs and like breeds french bulldogs and he's huge he just did a grappling competition against this guy
Starting point is 00:16:17 craig jones who's this uh brazilian jiu-jitsu guy from australia that's a murderer he's a leg lock specialist too and he caught him in a leg lock it's crazy to see how big he is rumbles like fucking i don't know he's got to be like 260 pounds like no bullshit he's huge man i've seen him we sat next to a fighter not the last fight i went to but whatever the one last night before that in vegas bro he looks like a fucking super heavyweight he's so big big, it's ridiculous. He's just not even thinking about losing weight for fighting anymore. I wonder what would happen if he decided to come back as a heavyweight. Like, no bullshit. As a heavyweight, if that guy, I mean, do you know how crazy it would be
Starting point is 00:16:57 if that guy wound up winning the heavyweight title? You think of the Rumble career. He wins the Ultimate Fighter as a 170. Gets all the way up to 185. Can't make 185. Misses weight, right? Misses it for the Vitor Belfort fight, I believe. A big fight.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Then he goes up to light heavyweight. Even goes up to heavyweight. Beat Andrei Arlovsky in, I think it was the PFL. And I think it really beat him badly, if I remember correctly. He broke his jaw. I'm not reckoning. That was at heavyweight in the PFL. It wasn't in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And then he comes back to the UFC. He comes back to the UFC as a light heavyweight and just flatlining people. Yeah, I remember. You would see him hit people. He'd just go, whoa! That guy. Scary.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Timing, too. Excellent timing. It wasn't just power. Rumble Johnson Johnson UFC return Could be on cards If the price is right Yeah that was when July
Starting point is 00:17:50 This is from recently Yeah after his Grappling match Oh really Yeah July Two months ago Dude he's So big right now
Starting point is 00:17:57 I would think He would fight heavyweight Heavyweight Him and Brock I mean I really think He's Him and Stipe He was torturing his body
Starting point is 00:18:04 For so long to make 170. I never saw anybody lose. Oh, my God, 278. That's 100 pounds over what he fought. It is a 100-pound gain. That is so crazy. A hundred pounds more than what he weighed in when he won the Ultimate Fighter. That's insane fighter that's insane
Starting point is 00:18:25 that's insane god bless oh my god 278 oh my god 170 oh my god he was 170 170 pound champion becomes a 278 pound heavyweight and it's like where did he how did you do that where is it And it's like, how did you do that? Where is it? It's crazy. That guy's power is fucking undeniably preposterous. What do you make of Brock trying to pick a fight with John Bones? Oh, that's so silly.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Let's just talk. What I was going to say about Rumble is that even though Rumble was that good and that scary, DC handled him, man. DC aided a hard shot, got him to the ground. That was Rumble when he was 170. He was very thin. Now he's enormous. But DC was the guy who managed to handle that.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Yeah, crazy. That's how badass DC is. Seemingly easily was the crazy part. He was the only one. He was the only one that could handle him. I didn't think that was going to go that way. Like I said, that was my dude, so I was rooting heavy for him. Well, DC's a special guy when it comes to wrestling. He's especially talented.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And I think wrestlers, they know where they stand in the wrestling food chain. And when you get gripped by a dude like DC, you're like, oh, Jesus. This is Olympic caliber wrestling. It's beast mode. He just starts smashing. And he was able to run his way through the heavyweight division you got to realize before he lost the steep a fight he had only lost one round ever at heavyweight really arguably and that was to josh barnett i think that was like one round that he lost on the cards and josh barnett is a you know a legend a fucking the
Starting point is 00:20:02 youngest ever ufc heavyweight champion the youngest ever uf UFC heavyweight champion. The youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion, Josh Barnett. Brilliant guy, too. Do you know Josh? Not personally, no. I'm a fan. Fucking brilliant guy. Brilliant guy. So that's the last round that DC had ever lost.
Starting point is 00:20:17 He lost like one round as a heavyweight. He was just dominating people. With his wrestling and his hand speed, he was just fucking people up. But that's how good Stipe is man people slept on stipe you know people thought that dc was going to run him over again like he ran him over the first time and uh you know i think dc prepared for a long and arduous fight but stipe's a big big man big giant heavyweight man he's a long tall dude a long frame and dc weighed more than him during the fight. I think he weighed like six pounds more than him, something like that.
Starting point is 00:20:48 But it's just built, it's just distributed very differently. Didn't Stipe come in like 20 or 30 pounds less than last time? He came in less, yeah. I don't know if it was 20 pounds, but I think it was, he was like 230 in this fight, and I think DC was 236. So DC came in light, too. He came in lighter than their first fight but i think uh you know steve came in after like a whole year of waiting for this rematch like
Starting point is 00:21:13 trying to figure out if it's ever going to happen is is dc going to fight brock lesnar and jesus you know it's like he was always waiting and then finally they gave him the chance to see him i hate to see dc lose i hate it it's hard to watch man he's such a nice guy it's it's hard as much as i like that guy to see him get hit it's hard but you take all that stuff out and just look at his two athletes and what steve did was just brilliant the whipping of that left hook to the body was just textbook, man. Textbook. DC was fighting an amazing fight up until he gassed a little bit, it looked like to me, and the liver shots started happening. It's also, you've got to appreciate the technique. The way Stipe threw that left hook was perfect.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I mean, it was just, these are brilliant shots. There's no wasted movement. The technique was pinpoint. I mean, he just just, these are brilliant shots. There's no wasted movement. The technique was pinpoint. I mean, he just, whap, he just rips him in there. And he caught DC standing there. And he just hit him with a hard left of the body. And then once he realized he could do that more, he just continued what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Then, whap, he would go to it again. And he got in again. And then now DC's in a little bit of trouble. And now he's going to, what's he going to try to do, take him down? Like he's in this spot where now dc's in a little bit of trouble and now he's gonna he was gonna try to do take him down like he's in this spot where he's kind of still standing with him and he's not down but he's hurt and so it's how much has he hurt i mean he got hit with hard body shots by a big heavyweight definitely letting it be known those are brutal and and then boom he starts hitting him up to the head and drops him.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Wow. That was super impressive. When you're calling a fight, how often are you looking here and how often are you like? Depends on what I can see. I mean, what you're saying is a monitor. Yeah. Depends on how often. I want to see it.
Starting point is 00:22:58 If I could just see it. Absolutely. That's why I'm just curious. I'm just saying a percentage wise, if you were to guess, what is what? About a third of the time you're looking at this and the rest of time you're probably up here yeah maybe less than a third on the monitors i try to stay off the monitors the monitors or i want to see you know i want to see what's happening but they're like if they're off to the side like pressed up against the cage then i kind of have to go to the monitors because
Starting point is 00:23:22 i need to see like i'm comparing it to like an experience as like ringside experience where i'm like how often i'm like about a third of the time i feel like i'm looking watching the screen at the screens yeah i mean just because i want to they're out there on the ground and i want to see what's going on with the with the arm that i can't see you know i mean that kind of thing yeah yeah it's a wild fucking sport man so why i was trying to figure it out the other day i think i've been to like maybe 60 ufcs man jesus christ i think so dude if i think back to the years when i met dana and chuck and like ever since that day it's like anyone i call up and you know i'm blessed and then you know i get to go i know you're when i was single dude i you know you we when i was when it was those days
Starting point is 00:24:03 it was a whole different game i'd be in almost almost every one because most of them were in Vegas. Yeah. So it would be easy to get there. Yeah. Those are fun experiences, man. Trying to figure out how to pull up on Abu Dhabi, man. Are you really? I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I'm trying to figure out how. Do I just buy a ticket and go or do I figure out how? Yo, any promoter out there that wants some jump around around action holler at me you know i mean i'm just trying to pull up on the abu dhabi fight and have that experience i'm gonna be watching that one from here we're gonna probably do a fight companion for that and one day i want to be invited to one of those dude you got to come to one of those those are ridiculous yeah no that's they're fun i've just try not to get into conspiracies no no i'm well aware try to keep any away from the illuminati right it's the only way it goes south but even then it's fun it's always fun it's like it's just the best thing in the world is like
Starting point is 00:24:58 watching fights with friends and and laughing no i've watched it a few times. Good combination of things. It's a fun thing. My most favorite way to watch fights. Turn the sound down at the house and put y'all up. Man, you can say things you just can't say. You could talk about things that you could never otherwise talk about. And you could describe things with language, like all the language. You could use all the language. Like when I'm doing the ufc
Starting point is 00:25:25 it's like little kids are listening to this which is kind of weird right like if you say fuck that's bad but if they watch someone get beat the fighter could say it though i mean you know i mean the fighter could say it yeah i think i think appropriately and intelligently placed it wouldn't be out of line but you couldn't overdo it or overuse it it would have to be like you'd have to like pick that perfect the problem is it it gets in the way of uh doing the commentary right you're just any decision that you would make to use that kind of language would get in the way of the commentary because it it would be like it would be less effective like they would go oh this guy like why do you have to use it there
Starting point is 00:26:13 true and there would be like judgment of like when to use and why use it and then they would like think less of what you have to say or be upset by what you have to say and that would be the number one thing if you're trying to do commentary the number one thing you're trying to do is take yourself out of it like i'm trying to do that i'm just trying to like use the best language possible to express my excitement for what we're about to see like this is what's important to me like i just want to i'm fuck this is how fucking pumped i am these guys are murderers this is going to be fascinating to see yoel romero paulo costa what the fuck? That's exactly how we were talking in the car on the way down.
Starting point is 00:26:49 I was watching that fight like this. This is me. It's like one of those fights where you're just waiting for the beatings they were giving each other. It was crazy, man. Fucking two chiseled granite-looking motherfuckers. Yoel and a Gucci model. It's going to be in a Gucci model ad next week for sure gucci doesn't pick him up they're crazy the guy's beautiful they're both giant beautiful men with incredible bodies it was a man the fight was fucking fantastic and was so highly skilled
Starting point is 00:27:19 that paulo costa guy is for real man he's for. If he can do that to Yoel, if he can stay on top of Yoel like that, Yoel explodes on everyone. Explodes on everyone. But that dude weathered the storm. He weathered the storm, and he landed some great shots. It was a very close fight, though, because Yoel hit him with some big shit, too, and Yoel took him down twice. You know?
Starting point is 00:27:42 We were, you know, it was my 50th slap sunday so we were out saturday oh sluncher sluncher yes sir sluncher so like you know we were going yo l the old guy rep you know i mean old for the rep for the old guys you know and so we were going hard for yo l bro he wins best body at 42 all over the world the guy's a monster. I mean, who has more athletic length of their elite career than Yoel? Because at 42, he still moves like he moved 10 years ago. Is he 42, too? No.
Starting point is 00:28:16 That's what I'm saying. He's got that Cuban birth certificate. He could be like 48. You know what? That's what they say about that Luis Ortiz guy, that elite heavyweight boxer from Cuba. I'm getting trouble from all my Cuban friends for that. I dare not be busting my balls.
Starting point is 00:28:32 All the Cypress guys. I had him on the podcast with Joey Diaz translating. It was amazing, man, to hear him tell his stories in Cuban. I just wish I spoke Spanish so I could understand it coming from his mouth. But having Joey translate it and talk about all the shit that he had to deal with coming up through
Starting point is 00:28:48 the Cuban amateur system of wrestling. This was one of your podcasts? Yeah. Look at that. I gotta watch it because that one got my eye. Look at that build.
Starting point is 00:28:54 That is preposterous. That is one of them sculpted things you buy at Toys R Us. Right? It's like the Prometheus thing. It's an action figure.
Starting point is 00:29:04 That's an action figure for sure. That does not look like a real live human he's it's a batman suit he's so freakishly athletic and so powerful and you know it's that cuban wrestler system and he just the way he described it's like they turn you into a machine you just become a fucking machine and that's what he is with competition he's just a machine man yeah he was clowning too in the second two rounds like that's why i was like kind of felt like you know he's trying to get that guy to be emotional and make a mistake you know for sure but it was like he again he finished he got i mean he got the best
Starting point is 00:29:40 of him in those two rounds in my book i thought he won close close not bad enough to be like bitching about it but like i would have flipped the 29 28 personally well the audience agreed with you when they uh that's right they were they were doing it yeah which is unfortunate because paulo costa just fought an amazing fight and he has to feel like shit during the the post fight that does suck i don't condone pulling any of that stuff because most of the people that would boo would never get in that ring boo would never get in that ring. I would never get in that ring. You ain't got enough money.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Again, I've made a lot of money. And Conor McGregor hasn't got enough money for me to get in that ring, dog. I'm sorry. Okay, you got $100 billion. I'm like, ah, man, I like my consciousness. I'm not getting in with Mike Tyson for any money. The problem is they're booing the decision. That's a lottery ticket on the wrong side of things.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah, for sure. The problem is they're booing the decision. It wasn't his decision. He just fought his heart out. And it wasn't that ridiculous is my point, too. It was like, yeah, I would have flipped it, but hey, okay, no. I can see how that could be seen. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And your guy has been live to 60 fucking UFCs. It's just. I don't know what the woo thing is that's happened in the last couple years. Woo. Like, it's just like, and the whole crowd starts. It's like. They just get excited. But that's new.
Starting point is 00:30:56 That's like, I wasn't around a long time ago. It's probably some soccer thing. They probably stole it from soccer. And then like, woo. It's like animals answering each other at some point. It's like, you got motherfuckers other at some point it's like you got you're communicating by with the woos
Starting point is 00:31:09 dude I never even thought of that that's so true the woo that's a new thing yeah I mean the last few years like over the last
Starting point is 00:31:15 five or six years yeah right what do you think was that a wrestling thing you know what when's the first time it popped up down south
Starting point is 00:31:21 like a Kentucky or a North Carolina that's when I feel like I heard it first. You know, that might be Ric Flair. That might be a Ric Flair. It might be a Ric Flair? Is that what that is?
Starting point is 00:31:30 Woo! Dude, that would make a lot. Now you fucking solved a mystery for me. That would make sense if we can get some confirmation on that somehow. Someone asked this question on Reddit. Someone says you've been talking about Ric Flair so much that they might have picked it up from you. Oh, jeez. I don't know if that's right what if this is some bizarro moment where it all connected like oh shit i started that listen guys like that are important to america the guy's such
Starting point is 00:31:56 he's such a character in his prime with his suits jet flying alligator wearing i was a WCW guy, man, and Ric Flair was the man. Dude, he's a character that made his way into, what, a thousand rap songs? How many rap songs have Ric Flair? Dude, there's a whole hip-hop subculture involved with wrestling. I was like these cats that I'm actually fans of, West Side Gun and Conway and this kid Benny. They got this record label called Griselda, but the West Side Gun kid is like a fucking wrestling fanatic.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I think he's involved with the WWE, doing merch and stuff like that. I see him putting shit together that's like definitely got to be licensed. But like, yo, there's this whole subculture of wrestling and hip hop going on right now. Wrestling has definitely made its way into stand-up too now. They have this podcast, The Store Horseman, where they all just talk about pro wrestling, a bunch of comics, Tony Hinchcliffe and these comics. Who's on that Store Horseman?
Starting point is 00:33:04 Jeremiah Watkins, right? Who else? No, he he's not i'm giving out fake news fake news that's fake news um but it's not fake news this is delicious by the way it's very good it's delicious buffalo trace i ain't mad at companies from 1773 son they started in 1773 did you know that they sold whiskey during prohibition for medicinal medicinal purposes i didn't know that oh i didn't but i i would i'm not shocked at all so this company kept making whiskey all through the uh prohibition legally legally yeah for medicine so people that you know i'm gonna need a little medicine. I just got a slew of new whiskeys for the birthday. It's Tony Hinchcliffe, Johnny Skirtis, Matt Edgar, Josh Martin.
Starting point is 00:33:52 That's right. I hope I said Skirtis' last name right. Is that right? Did I say it? It sounds like it. Yeah. Anyway. So comics are really into pro wrestling, too.
Starting point is 00:34:03 They even go live, these dorks they fly out to like wrestlemania and they go in the audience same live same same yeah same same yeah it's become like a not like a it's become a thing that people like to do like to go to these big wrestling events and groups of people whether it's musicians or rappers hip-hop or stand-ups they're going like for sure experiencing it together exactly it's musicians or rappers, hip-hop or stand-ups. They're going like experiencing it together. Exactly. It's like the concert experience. Why are rappers so obsessed with Ric Flair?
Starting point is 00:34:32 Because he's got like 40 Rolexes. You know, he's Ric Flair. That one famous rant that he went on, limousine riding, jet flying. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that kind of shit. And they were all eight when that happened and they saw that yes that's everything i want in in the universe it's interesting yeah you see him now i mean the the guy still gets love everywhere he goes you know like i did in my special where i said you know rick flair and then i put the microphone out to the audience the The audience goes, woo!
Starting point is 00:35:05 Dude, you started that shit then, dude. You started the woo. I don't think I did. I don't think I did. I think it was already going on. I think everybody appreciates this guy. It's like, as you get old, we can't play this, right? We'll get in trouble.
Starting point is 00:35:19 But this is the, as you, you know, you get older, and you see things like this, you appreciate them for what they're like. You can think they're cheesy when you're young, but then as you get older and you see things like this, you appreciate them for what they are like. You can think they're cheesy when you're young. But then as you get older, you go, no, that's fucking awesome. The fact that that guy is this tank. Those glasses are amazing. Beautiful golden mullet with those crazy sunglasses saying all this nutty shit. Big old pinky ring.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Dude, man, that's an artist. That guy's an artist. Look at this. That's the male soap opera forever since back when we were children, man. Yeah. You know what I mean? When I was a kid, it was Bob Backlund and Jimmy Superfly Snooker and Iron Sheik. I don't know if you could have really grown up in America as a little boy and not had a phase at some point
Starting point is 00:36:05 where you interacted with one of these wrestling organizations wcw or wwf when i was growing up and if you were like one of those kids is really into like alt music and indie groups you know you you would go for some like fucking killer kowalski shit you'd go undertaker you'd go you would try to find some people that were off the beaten path like do you know about this wrestling organization because there's a bunch of like weird little tiny dude when i was when the house of pain like was like early on like you know but you know we were already experiencing pretty good success like ecw had formed the crazy extreme championship wrestling i think that's what it's before out of philadelphia and they invited us to a bunch it was the first time i ever really and i know it
Starting point is 00:36:48 had happened before but their whole show was about cats cutting their faces open and bleeding during matches and shit it was insanity man and they had packed houses i mean i think dude bought it up like vince mcmahon bought it up and the guy who owned it or ran it became one of the characters within it. I believe. It's been a long time. I'm old now. I'm 50. Do you see what Ronda Rousey did to her finger?
Starting point is 00:37:12 Did you see that? I saw that yesterday. How about that, man? They glued that thing together, and she went back to work. How about if I read it right, she finished the take. She finished the take and ignored it until it was over and then it was over she realized how bad it was so she goes to the hospital they put it back together again and then she goes back and finishes gangster dude that's dedication not a lot of humans it's
Starting point is 00:37:38 also like i don't want to fight anymore i'm gonna go finish this movie fighting is like just you know nobody wants to cut the weight once they're done. I don't want to come back to that shit. Well, that's just the mindset of an elite combat sports athlete. She just had that
Starting point is 00:37:50 mindset. There's not a whole lot of humans that would have dealt with that that way. That's crazy. That lady's made out of bullets.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I'm going on my workman's comp from my SAG-AFTRA insurance. Yeah, you're shutting down production, son. We ain't finishing no scenes. Chopped off a superstar's insurance. Yeah, you're shutting down production, son. We ain't finishing no scenes.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Chopped off a superstar's finger. Yeah, Jesus Christ. What if she lost her finger? What if it was like... I mean, it wasn't... Bro, yeah, that's a fucking... Without the super expert surgeons, that's gone. Speaking of which, dude, last...
Starting point is 00:38:23 I think it happened. I don't know if we talked about it might have been after the last time it was on dude so i'm on a trip and i'm coming home literally about to get on the plane and i get this text from my wife like um i'm at the hospital i got a i chopped off my finger and i'm like in my head i'm like she didn't chop off her finger man she's got cut her she probably got her pretty ready with stitches. I was like, okay, it's pretty bad. I was like, all right, it was like about a three-hour flight home.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I said, all right, I'll be there as soon as I can. So I get there, and I pick her up from the hospital, and she's got the big thing on. And I get the story of she was getting in the shower, and we have a big glass-swinging shower door. And she was getting in and like you know holding on to the like edge real quick as the door slammed shut on it and just lopped off the fucking hole like to the knuckle basically they put that shit back on fixed it up a little bit it looks pretty fucking good now but that was crazy now you're just reminding me of it with the whole ronda rousey fingers are so it's amazing that they don't break more often.
Starting point is 00:39:28 They're so gentle. My shit would be over. If that part of my, this finger, this is the guitar on the fret hand. If I lost that part of that finger, it's going to take me four or five years to learn how to play with just these. At least. four or five years to learn how to play with just these, at least. My friend Paul was closing a window, and it had shattered, and cut his finger, and cut through the tendons,
Starting point is 00:39:53 and his finger was, like, permanently curled. And he had a bunch of operations to try to straighten it out, but then eventually he just gave up. They could never straighten it out. It never regained, like, full range of motion from a window. Like, it's so delicate. All this stuff is so delicate. You know? That's why it's so delicate everything all this stuff is so delicate you know that's why it's great that's why it's so ridiculous a glass door not sharp really i went home and looked at it like it's pretty beveled on the edges but the weight of it
Starting point is 00:40:18 just lopped off the fucking finger like crazy she was pretty gangster though i have to say she was pretty gangster what do you think of that scene where they put his hand in the fucking bowl? My wife actually posted, I don't think it's on her Instagram anymore. She posted the tip of her finger in the plastic bag as
Starting point is 00:40:38 she took it to the fucking hospital, dude. Did she have ice in the bag? Yeah. They couldn't reattach, but it was like they were able to extend it God, oh my God. A damn fucking hospital, dude. Did she have ice in the bag? Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, dude. They couldn't reattach, but it was like they were able to extend it somehow. Luckily, the dude out right there, there was a dude who was an expert at hand plastic surgery. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And hooked her shit up. It looks pretty normal. Something happens to your skin. Like if your finger gets chopped off at the end, there's a way to make it grow back. Right? Isn't there? Am I making this up? It seems like I remember there was, there's a way where if something happens to your tip of your finger. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:15 If you don't get the bone. They can, I think they said something like that, but they got her, make a piece of her bone. Just wow. That's why I'm saying it's so shocking how it just lopped it off clean. Like an angle. Like whip. Wow. You like that sound effect?
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah. Whip. I keep thinking that one day they're going to come up with artificial Luke Skywalker type hands. And that people are going to want them instead of regular hands. That's what I'm worried about. Wow. If they came up with an arm that works way better than your arm.
Starting point is 00:41:46 It would sound terrible, though. Like metal on metal. Unless you, if you had the skin like simulation, I could play guitar with that. TV. I'm talking about self. You could probably do some wild shit.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I'm talking about self-healing, bulletproof, spider silk, hybrid skin. Like that the government's working on. They're working on that right now they're working on some sort of i don't doubt it man i i i went out you want to hear a wild one all right i went on you know one night fucking smoking i went on a little youtube
Starting point is 00:42:15 uh wormhole situation and somehow i don't even know if it's a youtube video or someone else but i wound up on this video that was like world World's Smartest Kid Thinks That CERN Blew the World Up in 2008. All right? And I'm like, what the fuck? So I go on this video, right? And I'm watching this video, dude. And it's this young kid. He's like 12.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And the motherfucker's talking. You got to invest like 20 minutes into this kid talking about things that are super smart and it's kind of like to show you he's super smart you know what i mean this kid and his dad's doing the recording i believe or a relative somebody very close to him and he goes into this whole theory of how he thinks when they collided the the the electrons i believe in the in the in the super collider certain that they cause some crazy chain reaction that blew up the universe, but they also weighed that they created an atom that weighed too much.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And he, it's the first 20 minutes is also explaining infinite parallel universes. So what the kid winds up with is this theory of like one Adam weighing too much and way. And is that being just enough to shift our universe into a parallel universe? Yeah, this is it right here, dude.
Starting point is 00:43:31 So this guy had, this kid had me fucked up because after I watched this, everything I saw for months was talking about like, it would be news guy on the, on the news. Like, I don't know what universe I'm in anymore. Or,
Starting point is 00:43:42 uh, it's Spider-Man into the spider-verse like all these everything i saw for like four or five months after watching this video was like multiverse shit like shit about multiverses and it's got me fucked up joe i hear you i'm fucked up too now fucked up man read this kid look at what it says there he claims that cern destroyed the universe during recent experiments which has resulted in us living in a nearby parallel universe instead you're welcome eddie there's a lot of people online i think this is an explanation for all the mandela effect things yeah he goes into stuff about the mandela effect how like you know there's like apparently
Starting point is 00:44:22 a bunch of people who think Mandela died in prison. Right. And like, there's, you know, as far as I know, he was released, became president of South America. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:30 That's the universe I'm from, just personally. You know, but it's crazy, dude. Because it's not just this video. It's like,
Starting point is 00:44:38 you watch it and that YouTube algorithm starts sending you down a whole bunch of other, you know what I mean? You start hearing, and it's like, and then again,
Starting point is 00:44:46 everything that came out, there was all these shows I would see or movies or news things about the multiverse all of a sudden was everywhere around me. It was fucking nutty, dude. So I'm fucked up about that shit right now. Well, if there was something they could do, if there was something they could do that might open
Starting point is 00:45:02 up a door to a parallel universe, you don't think they would do it stranger things you mean yeah i'd say that's the stranger things i mean things are strange right it is stranger things bizarro world you know what's the weirdest one is the the like well the people that dismiss climate change that is the weirdest one to me because i'm like what is i'm trying to figure out what's the benefit of dismissing climate change other than if you work for like the oil industry or something well you work iceland just lost a glacier yeah like they just posted a whole thing of 10 or 80 like something in the 80s a glacier picture of it and just now and it's gone
Starting point is 00:45:40 but i'm not even saying like blaming anybody for it i'm saying dismissing it as an issue i'm like let's pretend that people have nothing to do with it let's just i wish people had nothing to do with it because then we can go holy fuck it's getting hot like how hot is it gonna get like we could just figure it out like if it was just a record at this point where it's two degrees the oceans are hotter than they've been and do you know how people do that where they try to say well this is a natural cycle. This is something that some people still say, right? Okay, even if it was just a natural cycle, I wish humans weren't in the equation at all so there was no argument.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I wish it would just be like, hey, guys, it's getting really hot. What the fuck do we do? As if we had no control over it whatsoever. Not saying that we shouldn't take steps to fix it. We definitely should but i'm saying that if it was impossible for people to have created it and it was happening around us maybe we would be forced to do something maybe we'd be forced to like go to higher ground get the fuck out of the really hot spots you know make your way towards canada like i mean maybe that would what's what we would do if there was no other way.
Starting point is 00:46:46 But we know that at least part of what the problem is, is people. At least part of what the problem is. But so many people want to start arguments about that and fight that. And to me, it's so strange. It's like, what's the benefit of arguing against that it's happening? I don't understand. It's happening. You see it getting
Starting point is 00:47:05 warmer you see the statistics you see everybody freaking out the amazon's on fire have you seen yes no it's fucking horrifying you see those photos from south hollow they're just and i believe it's purposeful i i have heard that that is the some people are it's being burnt away on purpose is what i'm if i've some if the things I've read are understood, I won't swear their truth because, again, that's one of the things what you're saying is. Yeah, that's a suspicion. Is you've got to question everything now.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Truth has been compromised, man. You know what I mean? No matter what side of whatever you are on, truth has been seriously compromised because there's a counter opinion to everything. And if you're not adept enough to really get involved and find factual information, you can literally counter any argument there is with something. Oh, well, I read this.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Well, I read this. Okay, well, that doesn't mean either one of those things are true. Let's go find the truth. That doesn't exist anymore because people just want to Google that that shit get on yeah and move on with their day you know and and it's laziness on our part a lot of people don't want them it's like fucking this thing that everybody's posting with the goddamn fucking instagram i don't give you permission yeah it's so silly use every i read a whole other thing that says the average american, I believe, signs one or two legal documents a day without reading them just by logging into shit on your phone, Amazon or Instagram or whatever. Every time you do that, you subscribe and adhere to their terms and conditions.
Starting point is 00:48:40 And you think a picture of a copy and pasted Instagram thing over something that was from Facebook fucking 12 years ago? It's bananas. It's bananas. People get roped into things. You know, one person. I see smart people posting and saying better safe than sorry. Yeah. I've seen that too.
Starting point is 00:48:58 What argument is that? Well, they don't know how to internet. They don't know how to internet. I'm just saying even if it's like you suspect it's wrong, but, oh, fuck it anyways. It's like, wait, wait. If you suspect it's wrong, take the extra time or just don't do it at all. Yeah. Like, what?
Starting point is 00:49:15 I'm just using that as an example of what the state of things are as they are. Yeah, it's a sneaky little loophole. It's a sneaky little thing that happens to you you have to everybody's posting something stupid did you send it to me oh well everlast sent it to me it must be legit you just post it you know i mean how many times have you done that i've done that all the time i posted something clowning it and then immediately after it dana came up it was him posting the exact thing with the whole like better safe than sorry thing. Oh Christ. You know what I mean? I was like oh man. Oh dude.
Starting point is 00:49:51 They got everybody though. They got that fucking Rick Perry guy. Everybody. Everybody. Isn't Rick Perry's job to like fucking protect the nukes or something? I saw a governor or something posted too. What is Rick Perry? They said Rick Perry but he has a specific job in the government it's like the energy the energy secretary he's like in control of the nukes right is that what it is energy secretary yeah you are
Starting point is 00:50:13 i don't know whatever the fuck he is he's got a big job and he fell for it it's oh it's bizarro world we're in bizarro world maybe that fucking kid is right I'm telling you dude you're yo you're gonna be calling me in a couple nights like fuck you dude why did you even
Starting point is 00:50:31 tell me about that I've really I've bounced the idea of multiple universes many times we all have but this kid watch it
Starting point is 00:50:39 just you're gonna invest give it 20 minutes or 15 18 minutes whatever it is and then you'll be like, oh, wow. It's not that it's, oh, fact, but it's like, wow, that's super possible.
Starting point is 00:50:51 It's super, super possible the way he breaks it down. What about this? What if every time you went to sleep and you woke up, you passed into a nearby and very similar universe, but not quite the same. And depending upon your choices and how you live your life, it's how you wake up and what new one you pop into on the other side. And everyone's just a little bit different. The whole world changes just a little bit each time you make a decision, one way or another.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Everything changes when you wake up. You think the world is static because it is when you're awake you have no fucking idea what's happening while you're asleep and when you wake up again you have this foggy recollection of the past and that's what you're going by you're going by every morning waking up with a foggy recollection of the past that's what you're doing and you're you're assuming that nothing's changed and everything's static and while you were asleep for eight hours nothing weird happened you know what the fuck you're talking about you have no idea you're dreaming you're having crazy fantasies and shit weird stuff is happening you're fucking mermaids you're flying through the air on a uh on a helicopter you know you don't weird things
Starting point is 00:52:03 happen when you're dreaming what What is all that about? We don't even know. We have no idea what that is. That soup of possibilities that's fucking swirling around in between your ears while you're snoring up a storm, and then boom, you wake up. Are you sure those memories are real? Are you sure that this isn't a whole completely new universe that you're living in today? Or a simulation.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Or a simulation. Or assimilation. I said simulation. I would call myself out on that one right there. There was some fucking, another genius super wizard kid who was talking about that. Something about simulations. I was high at the house
Starting point is 00:52:42 with the guy who runs my studio, Devon, and we were just Fucking laughing talking shit one day high like like what if like I? May have heard this could have been on your show I could have read this so I'm not claiming like ownership of the thought But it was like what if like we just come from a universe like that's so perfect and shit And it's boring as fuck and we just plug in to have all these fucked up like weird problems and that's why everything's getting
Starting point is 00:53:09 fucking weirder and crazier because like that's kind of why we're here that's part of the ride you know that could be it it could be the only way you appreciate love is to know hate they'll really appreciate it and it could be the only way we would appreciate all the good that we have is to balance it out with all the bad that we have and when they start to overwhelm each other one way or the other there's an imbalance that takes place and it leads to all of our fucking problems as a society and when you you think about how long you're going to be alive and what it is that you're doing here and why you're doing it. All those weird questions and answers that go on inside your head, it's all you're distributing energy, right?
Starting point is 00:53:51 You're trying to figure out, am I distributing my energy right? Am I living my life in a way that is the best I can do with what I've got right now? That's it. All these mind fucks. That's all you got to do though i mean honestly even no matter what we're saying if you woke up every day and that was your objective yeah you couldn't really go or do much wrong no no you can't and what if every day when you did that you woke up in a nearby universe that was just a little bit different because of what you thought and did dude that's like you know that's a movie what you thought and did. Dude, that's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:25 that's a movie. It's a magic type shit nevertheless. It's a movie. It's a magic type shit. Oh, you went, see, I was, okay, I was being, I just was like trying to be not such a glutton. There we go. Salute. Salute. DJ Melody over there. Cheers. How about cheers?
Starting point is 00:54:41 Let's go American, goddammit. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. DJ. Yeah. You got a DJ, bro. The only guy ever. See, here's the thing. I believe besides myself is Honey Honey Man. Honey Honey Band?
Starting point is 00:54:56 Yeah. I think they're the only other ones. The only other ones that have done music on the show, right? Not totally true. Is that true? You might be right. You were definitely the first. And then Gary Clark brought his guitar, but we just chilled.
Starting point is 00:55:09 I'm a huge fan of that. I think Sturgill brought his guitar the first time. He might not even brought his guitar the first time. Sturgill Simpson? Sturgill, yeah. I hung out with him once at a sneaker shop on Melrose. They have a new song that he just released. His new album is fucking incredible.
Starting point is 00:55:24 I got a chance to listen to it in advance before it's released, They have a new song that he just released. His new album is fucking incredible. I got a chance to listen to it in advance before it's released, and they just released something on YouTube. It's like this Japanese anime with, what is the name of the actual video so people could find it on YouTube? Sing Along. Sing Along. It's a fucking amazing song, but the video is cool as shit, man. It's all this japanese anime so he did
Starting point is 00:55:47 all of this uh the did like all these crazy animations it's like a film that takes place while the album plays oh yeah so it's all coordinated to the songs i mean he's been working on this shit forever he's been flying back and forth Japan and LA I mean this is a labor of love no I like to stop incredible I met him like I said it is my buddy owns a sneaker shop on Melrose and he was I guess a bit of a sneaker head himself so really we'd be politic 20 he's one of my favorite people yeah I like it I like to start that the music that the country kind of outlawish like but like big bandish yeah you know what i love about that guy he didn't even
Starting point is 00:56:29 try to go for it as a professional musician until he was like 36 his wife talked him into it his wife was like you know you don't suck that's like what she said that's that's that's great that's high praise she's like you're fucking good and he's and he went for it because somebody who wakes up with you and goes to bed with you so you don't suck i mean that's that's high praise you know but he had like crazy jobs like railroad worker shit like that like did a bunch of like regular jobs and just was writing music and singing music and then she convinced him to go for it yeah he's an unusual character man this stuff this all this new stuff is different i it's like he used to be you would think of him as
Starting point is 00:57:12 country like you can't even you don't even know what to say now this new stuff is not country it's wild though it's really good check it out yeah it's like it's this kind of hybrid rock thing he's doing but it's pretty fucking badass this is Waylon Waylon had sex with Queens of the Stone Age while the Black Keys watched first comment on the video who said that was named that guy top comment Shelby Riley Shelby Riley congrats congrats you won you won the internet for the day for the day that is exactly what it sounds like it's really good stuff man he's a sing-along you said that was called yeah i'm checking out now absolutely he's doing weird shit that's the only thing to do man it's you know and i don't you know weird shit in the sense
Starting point is 00:58:00 of like yo shit that excites you so this it's just like, you know, you know, don't, I'm not, I've never tried to make the same thing twice, you know, cause it's like, I want to be excited. I want to be scared to fail.
Starting point is 00:58:10 You know what I mean? Yeah. I want to, I want to be like, you know, Oh, that didn't work next time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Well, you, you, you've always switched shit up. That's one of the more interesting things about you. It's like when, when you were doing what it's like, and when you, you switched it's like and when you
Starting point is 00:58:25 you switched up to like whitey ford sings the blues everybody was like whoa like what is this is this is this is the jump around guy this is the house of pain guy but it it it was uh it felt so easy to digest for most people because this is before i knew you and i was like it's so because it's so authentic like it's very obvious that this was thank you the kind of music that you were writing was like music that like came from your feelings and your soul it was like wow this is real shit yeah it's 20 20 years dude what it's like was a classic that was a classic. That was a classic. That was one of those songs that was like, that's a heartfelt song. That's a soul-filled song. That's like a universal song.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah. I went to New York. I had left House of Pain and went to New York with a buddy of mine and was just kind of sleeping on his couch. And he had a guitar there. I started strumming it one night and singing these little words and he came bursting out of his room in the back like what the fuck is that and kind of was like we're recording that tomorrow we were making a rap record i was like there to like just kind of further you know the rap career and nobody really knew i played guitar and stuff like that a little bit so but it was his his encouragement that definitely came back like when he was like I think he was with it broad back
Starting point is 00:59:48 there and he just heard the song and jumped like wow what the fuck is that you know I mean and and so the next day they basically forced me to record it so I had to finish right I had wrote it like that night I had I think I had the first part the whole liquor store guy at the liquor store thing but I didn't really have anything else, but he heard that part and was like, yo, we, you need to finish that.
Starting point is 01:00:10 When you get those ideas, when they come to you, what does that feel like? Does it feel like, like a gift comes out of the universe? A lot of the times the really good ones. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:19 I mean, what blows my mind and I'm going to flip it on you real quick is is the the the comic art arc of you get to work this thing out for a whole long time and if you're really successful on your level type thing then you shoot a special and that joke kind of goes away you can't you don't really get to tell that anymore and that blows my mind because like my whole thing is like, work this thing out and build this thing that I can go out
Starting point is 01:00:48 and play every night for the rest of my life. So like, you're, you know what I mean? So all the kudos being thrown back and forth. When I look at you
Starting point is 01:00:57 or any amazing comedian that just turns it around and every year, two years is belting out these fucking funny ass specials and then like, you can't do that anymore like you know unless you're andrew dice clay with the little fucking hickory dickory
Starting point is 01:01:11 doc you know and you got the little you know he's the only guy ever that you want to hear the old stuff over and over and over again like or i don't know if you see a whole set of just rhymes or even like um like and now there's like are you familiar with this with little duval the comedian like you know and the whole singing like i mean he's like, are you familiar with Little Duval? Yes. The comedian? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole singing. I mean, he's like turning it into, he's flipping this whole script on what comedy and music and entertainment is right now. He's kind of doing some really fucking interesting shit. He's also got a bunch of crazy shit going on on his Instagram.
Starting point is 01:01:37 His Instagram's hilarious, too. He's got something I need him to explain to me. It's one of my favorite follows in the universe. Yeah, no, no. He starts cultural phenomena. Yes, yes. Period. Yes the universe. No, no. He starts cultural phenomena. Yes. Period. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:01:49 He sets shit off. I've watched him say some shit on his Instagram and will it into existence, and it becomes like a trend, or the songs he's written. It's just like, it's amazing. He's special. No, it's one of my favorite follows, honestly. Yeah, he's something special. Andrew Schultz really made me take a, I mean, I knew about that song, Smile Bitch.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I actually found out about that song because Stylebender would come out to fight with Smile Bitch. And he came out to fight with him. He talked about it. He goes, I love Lil Duval. I'm like, oh, let me check out Lil Duval. And I was like, god damn, this guy's good. And then Andrew Schultz says, yo, he's a comedian. And he goes, he's one of the most insightful and brilliant people I've ever met.
Starting point is 01:02:33 And just like almost like a naturally curious guy. You need to get him on. Yeah, we're working on it. Yeah. We're going to make it happen. That'd be amazing. It's going to be great. Schultz is a wizard.
Starting point is 01:02:43 If Schultz tells me that someone's good I'll buy it yeah and it's like and he was early internet like dude like he's been working these like internet angles
Starting point is 01:02:51 kinda like you got in really early saw something he liked and he's got his own thing going on with uh he's got his own
Starting point is 01:02:57 thing going on with that whole city boys country boys thing but it's that's all in relation to the song I know I know
Starting point is 01:03:03 I know but it's hilarious how people like it's like a daily point back and forth oh man anybody if you don't follow him go yeah yeah go he's one of the best follows little duval just shoot me some tickets to your next show in la i'm a huge fan that's that i mean you go however millions on this show follow little duval because he's hilarious and funny and yes And follow him to make sure that he's not really shadow banned anymore. That shit's crazy. I got a friend who's going through that right now. Like where like they just disappear off the like shit when you search for him.
Starting point is 01:03:33 He's up there now. They're ghosting you. I feel like it's an ad. Oh, it's there? You can find him? Okay, good. Yeah. There you are.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I'm telling you, man, you couldn't find him for a while. There you go, Andrew Schultz. It was tricky. It was very tricky. Very tricky back in the day. Yeah. Awesome. Lil Duval.
Starting point is 01:03:57 So what do you want to do today, man? You got a DJ? I brought Lil. We got a few things we could do for you. I brought Lil. I've come here with just a guitar, with a keyboard player. And I was like, I'm going to bring my man from the world famous Beat Junkies, DJ Melody, over here. I like to pretend.
Starting point is 01:04:12 They got their own university, Beat Junkies Institute of Technology. Sound. Sound. Beat Junkies Institute of Sound in Glendale, California. DJ Melody. Shout out to Babu, J-Rock, all the homies. Shout out to everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:30 You know how we do. But yeah, we got some things you want. You want us to get into something? Let's get into something. Let's do it. I'm going to move over here real quick. Ladies and gentlemen, I think it's only you and Honey Honey. I really do.
Starting point is 01:04:44 I think so, right? and honey honey I really do I think so right I actually yeah yeah I DJ melody in there Yeah Joe Rogan Experience Everlast Come on Brand new sneakers and a back old chain We do the good cocaine And we don't feel no pain
Starting point is 01:05:43 And no we don't complain Everywhere I go people know my name We got the money and fame And they don't treat me the same And no I don't come back I wear status labs and still manic I'm born to call static like radical fanatic Jump out the bins with my semi-automatic And rob all my friends like a fucking drug addict I'm revolutionary, I'm very necessary You couldn't bust a cherry, fuck your commentary I'm so legendary, born to get in rhyme-a Youngsters act scary when they round the old timer
Starting point is 01:06:20 Like yes sir, no sir, truly it's an honor Farmer of drama, harvestin' karma Kamikaze, die bomber, on suicide mission My mental condition bout to come to fruition I'm all natural, no preservative Child superlative, you don't deserve to live We never truly die, and God was never born Tell your vision lies, watch that murder porn Brand new sneakers and a fat gold chain.
Starting point is 01:06:48 We do the good cocaine, and we don't feel no pain. No, we don't complain, never where I go people know my name. We got the money and fame, and they don't treat me the same. No, I don't complain I smoke like Willie I party like Waylon I'm wilder than David Lee Roth and Van Halen I'm batshit crazier than Yee and Sarah Palin Here's the smooth sailing on all these rough waters
Starting point is 01:07:21 Mothers love their son Fathers love their daughters All the things they give us All the things they give us, all the things they bought us, the love that first made us, all the things they taught us. Like doing none to others, and loving all your brothers, and helping out your neighbors when they need a hand. But everyone went solo with my plug like Viola, when it's hard to tell a woman sometimes from a man So all the confusion And everybody's losing Living fake lives up on Instagram But everything's funny When you front for your money While the devil executes his fucking master plan Like Brand new sneakers and a back old chain
Starting point is 01:07:57 We do the good cocaine And we don't feel no pain And no we don't complain And pain And no, we don't complain And every well-gold people know my name We got the money and fame And they don't treat me the same And no, I don't complain You know I don't complain
Starting point is 01:08:23 You know I don't complain Brand new sneakers and a fat gold chain We do the good cocaine And we don't feel no pain No, we don't complain Yeah Woo! Woo! That was great. Thank you, sir. I like it. Blame about the fires and shit. We were both like kind of a little traumatized that's thing and um because what happened was I put this record out last what I think
Starting point is 01:09:10 October right hit the road and was you know maybe two weeks in and get a picture of my house on fire and had to fly home so yeah this records out but we're right now in the product we're right now I just shot a video for the for a and we're re-releasing because i own everything it's my label we're just going to re-release you know og everlast on all the whatever whatever's you know formats you could find me do you feel like when you get through something like a fire with your family that like for some inexplicable reason you feel like a little bit closer oh uh yeah because i mean my wife and children were in the house when it was caught fire you know so yeah um not literally here's how it went down let's tell the story right uh basically i like i said i was
Starting point is 01:10:00 in new york i get a call from the wife the fire is right across the hill like i live literally like simi valley within the mountains. Bang. I'm kind of the first line right there. Once you come over those mountains. Um, so I get a picture like from her, like the across the street from me,
Starting point is 01:10:15 the, how the hills just like, it looks like a hell landscape. You know what I mean? It's fucking just on fire. And, um, so they're packing up and they're getting ready to get out.
Starting point is 01:10:30 And there's a fire truck in the neighborhood thank goodness and as my wife's putting the final like stuff in the car like the kids are in there she's putting all the dogs and you know whatever other medicines and stuff we need for leila and uh she turns around and sees like on the corner of the garage like an orange kind of glow and the thing about this is like you know people think the fire comes and hits the street and then jumps and burns all these houses that's not what happens if you ever notice in the middle if you're watching the news shit it's like one random house in the neighborhood burn it's trees it's having a tree right on your house that's touching your house well i happen to have a tree right there that was touching the corner of my garage the tree went up that thing touching the corner of my garage. The tree went up. That thing caught.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Garage went. About a third of the house went. You know what I mean? You know, everybody was out already. My wife was able to. The only reason a third of the house and the whole. Like, my wife saved our whole block, honestly, because there's trees between every all of our houses. Like, for privacy. You know, because everybody has a pool and everybody wants, you know, nobody wants to be in two-story houses, all that shit.
Starting point is 01:11:23 So, everybody just has these big, huge, like, those just spiny-looking trees, you know what I mean, that go, that cover, turn into a wall, basically. Right. The whole block would have went up. Had she not been there and had the wherewithal to run down the block and get the firemen that had just drawn by and say, come back and fucking put this out. She actually ran down there? She ran down the block, dude, and got it done. She's a gangster. The fires that were out here were so, it's so hard for people to understand what it was like.
Starting point is 01:11:48 It was frightening. It was like a war. It was frightening. It was like we were at war with a natural force. It was very strange, man. Everybody was holed up together. Me and my family, we got a hotel in town with a bunch of our friends. We were texting.
Starting point is 01:12:01 We were texting back and forth. And Tommy and his wife, Thomas Segura and his wife, they came over too. And we were texting from the neighborhood we were texting back and forth and tommy and his wife thomas segura and his wife they came over too and we were all in the same place and it was like we were all like refugees for like a small tiny period of time it makes you realize how fortunate we really are to be here in this you know this place like where we're at right now where we can just we don't have to deal with most of the bullshit that people are dealing with all over the world man you know we just one day of fire one week of fire whatever it was it freaked everybody out and scared the shit and a lot of people lost their lives or houses rather a lot of people lost their lives in northern california right yeah no that was that's why it's like even worse than you
Starting point is 01:12:37 couldn't even it was yeah you couldn't even like really get a perspective like well for your own shit because the minute you wanted to like do that you saw an entire town flattened in like an hour. Yeah, they lost people on the highway. People were trying to get out on the highway and they get caught
Starting point is 01:12:52 in their cars and they caught fire. Man, it's horrible. And there's, you know, for the people that survived, like for us,
Starting point is 01:13:00 and it sounds ridiculous to call yourself a survivor. It's not like it was a war. But it's something that you really a war but it's it's something that you really understand when you get through that you're like wow like we are barely in control of our own environment barely and all it takes is one good strong wind one good fucking hot day on one good gust of fire and next thing you know everything's on fire i mean that was yeah it nuts the kids the kids are still dealing with it you know, trying to explain that thing to the kids of like that universal unsurety.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Like there's just not really. Honey, I'm going to keep you as safe as I can. But if you really want the absolute truth, I can only tell you that some shit happens. And, you know, it was actually another big fire somewhere. Oh, as oddly enough, when Notre Dame caught fire, it was all on the news. And my daughter, my oldest, was like, oh, that caught fire? You know, because she always, I proposed to my wife in Paris. So, like, we talk about Paris a lot.
Starting point is 01:13:59 So she, you know, looks forward to all that. She wanted to see. She was really interested in Notre Dame when the thing burnt. But something about that burning and when it did and she saw she was like oh it can happen anywhere and it kind of and it kind of dawned on her like okay it's not just there that place because for a long time I couldn't even drive by the house with her like to go check on it or something and if she was in the car my wife either because she just didn't want to be over there and then after that it kind of changed and she kind of realized like well it's i guess it's kind of can happen anywhere yeah if it can happen in notre
Starting point is 01:14:29 which was a crazy thing to witness happen in a human like person like come to that understanding of like wow shit's just not guaranteed like in a weird way you know but isn't there kind of a there's a magic of that yeah if you can you can get through, if you're one of the survivors, there's a magic in that that doesn't exist without the possibility of that. I have people asking me, what are you going to do? And I'm like, what do you mean? They're like, you're going to build a house in the same spot. I'm like, fucking goddamn right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:14:57 Absolutely. I don't live in some crazy, bizarro-like place. I'm going to build my house right where it was. I'll tell you what I'm going to do. Build a house on the top of a hill that's mid-at I'm going to do. Put the sprinklers on your house. People have the sprinklers. There was cats. That whole neighborhood was burnt down and then one house had the
Starting point is 01:15:12 sprinklers. That house was pristine. The problem with that is you do get survivor syndrome. You feel weird. You get survivor guilt. Of the first three houses in front of me. Right in front of my house you know what three houses gone that i could understand that if if if you were like the guy who
Starting point is 01:15:31 kind of futuristically predicted a fire and put that on and where but after now it's like yo if you didn't put shit on now everybody knows about that shit now so put that shit in your house or like you know if you're gonna live in one of these areas we're basically in California they're telling us now this might be a new norm you know I mean these kind of fires that's so crazy you know so
Starting point is 01:15:51 because there hadn't been one in that the area you know those areas like Agoura Hills and Simi Valley there hadn't been one
Starting point is 01:15:57 for many many many like a couple decades I believe climate change is not real no it's fake it's fake news it's something something It's fake news. It's something,
Starting point is 01:16:09 something's clearly happening, right? This is not normal, right? If you had to guess, not in my 36 years. So it seems like there's a bit of an adjustment. I've been the same Irish white motherfucker all my life. And I didn't burn like this when I was young.
Starting point is 01:16:22 When did you move to LA? Oh, I've been here most of my life. Like, I was born in New York and whatever and probably did kindergarten, part of first grade out there. And then, like, my dad was a construction dude, like, during the 70s boom of, like, Simi Valley and all that shit being built. He came out during that era. Nobody talked about crazy fires back then. Did they?
Starting point is 01:16:43 They didn't, right? No, not really. I got evacuated for the first time while we were filming fear factor and i remember i was driving home and uh it started there was a fire it seemed like it was a little bit out of control like wow it's crazy and i'm driving to work and then we filmed the day and then as we're driving home people are letting us know hey man this is bad this has gotten really bad and uh as we're driving home, people are letting us know, hey, man, this is bad. This has gotten really bad. And as we're driving home, a guy got hit by a car and he got killed. And I didn't see his body, but I saw his shoe.
Starting point is 01:17:14 And we're like passing by where like all these people were freaking out because a guy apparently just tried to run into the highway. And some guy hit him because he was panicking because there was a bunch of bunch of shit going on there was fire i don't know if he was panicking but something happened the guy got hit by a car so has this ominous feeling of whoa somebody just died and we're driving down this highway and the whole right side is on fire i mean the whole right side of the highway for an hour like a lord of the rings movie mordor dude like flakes of ash are falling from the sky like like a light snow it's fucking strange you're just waiting for demons to come riding on fucking horses over the top of the hills it's that bad and uh by the time i got back we had to evacuate from our community and we
Starting point is 01:18:05 just got the fuck out of dodge that was the first time that had ever happened ever for me uh living out here since 94 and that was in like 2002 three something like that and then it's happened twice since then it's a creepy feeling man it's creepy it's like you know that no one can do anything if everything goes wrong. If everything goes wrong, the wind gets too strong, and it gets too wide, and it goes left, and it goes right, and everything starts swirling around, and ashes fly through the air, and they land on other people's houses. It's like you've got to get the fuck out of there. Just get out of there. There's a storm of fire. All right, so I get a picture.
Starting point is 01:18:45 The last thing before I get on a plane is a picture of my garage engulfed in flames. So I get on this plane. I got to take like three planes because it's like last minute booking and it's all coach, I'm pissed. I'm just like tucked in corners on the walls, like everything.
Starting point is 01:19:02 I had to fly to Dallas and to Vegas just to get there the quickest and i was like three flights so i get there i think the whole way there i'm like my house is burned to the ground you know i mean that's i'm accepting i'm i'm dealing with those whatever five stages of grief and like i'm getting to acceptance and then i get home and i not even at home i my wife and kids are at my studio. And, like, you know, that's where we're laid up from trying to figure out what the fuck's going on. I can't get to the house because the whole 101 shut down that way.
Starting point is 01:19:35 I have to literally drive up to Panga, hit the 118, take that all the way out to, like, the 20, whatever it is, the 3, 23, or the 27. I don't know. It's one of the no it's the 23 it's like out there and you come back down to come around the other way and i was able to get to the house i got to the house i got in my house literally had 20 fucking cop cars roll in like because looting was fucking out of control dude in the like agora and calabasas areas oak park it was oak park yeah well that's that's i don't i think that is agora and the same thing um but yeah the whole over there was fucking
Starting point is 01:20:11 like off the chain with fucking looting so like i had motherfuckers pull up on me i literally knew like i brought my lease and my farm not my my mortgage and my electric bill and i brought my you know i had all my shit so they was in my house and they were bill. And I brought my, you know, I had all my shit. So they, this is my house and I, and they were cool. But it was like, I pulled up and like saw most of the house standing and like broke down. Cause I'm a, I'm a big art collector and all. Cause I was like,
Starting point is 01:20:36 I had already like just assumed it was all gone, you know? And you know, it was crazy. It was a crazy experience to like pull up and like see like two thirds of it it there and you're like oh wow like maybe there's salvage like in the salvage shit like it was like a crazy experience man i'm grateful that my my family is safe and all that and all the rest of it is replaceable stuff but i got extremely lucky yeah no the most i mean it's like such a cliche thing to say that your health and your happiness and your family is the most
Starting point is 01:21:10 important thing you know that everybody knows that we even a fucking psychopath knows that but to feel it to feel it like in the presence of a natural fury like fires like wildfires it's humbling and in the strangest of, it makes you love each other more. It makes you nicer to people. All my refugee friends, you know, when we're at the hotel that night, you know, the refugees from the fire, we're all, like, closer. We're, like, happy. For sure.
Starting point is 01:21:40 You know, in a weird way. You know, we're having drinks together. We're toasting. We're hugging. You know, we're in a hotel hiding from a weird way. We're having drinks together. We're toasting. We're hugging. We're in a hotel hiding from a natural fury. And you realize, oh, okay,
Starting point is 01:21:51 we get soft when we hit a soft spot. And that's not necessarily good for anybody. And occasionally, these horrific things that happen are good for us overall because they let us appreciate. Like, there's consequences.
Starting point is 01:22:08 There's consequences to living here. There's consequences to everything being so hot and dry and never fucking raining. And the fact that it may or may not be getting a little bit warmer. Maybe. No, maybe. Who gives a fuck if people have anything to do with it? Who cares? Let's pretend that's not even a factor.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Something's happening. Something's happening. We got firestorms. Like every few years, a goddamn firestorm. You know? Craziness, man. Well, we survived it, brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Cilantro. Cilantro. There's only so much shit to think about. Right? There's only so much shit to think about Right You You know You having gone through that man
Starting point is 01:22:51 Have you written shit That has The touch of that on it I'm like In like a very kind of creative State at the moment So I don't know what's there's there's i'm sure there's elements of it when what i'm like starting to play with right
Starting point is 01:23:11 now do you sit down and write like on a piece of paper or do you write while you're no music yeah for me writing is a visual process visual yes and i can't if i write it down it becomes two-dimensional and i've never i've written lyrics that i thought were genius and actually committed them to paper and saw them and they be and they it's like they dissolve from this three-dimensional beauty to like oh it's two-dimensional garbage it's fucking bizarre i know and it's not always like reasonable but it's my process at this point. How's it visual? If you really listen to my songs, they're like photograph. It's like flipping through a photographic album almost.
Starting point is 01:23:51 If you really listen to what I'm doing, it's very visual. I see the pictures. I equate it to like, did you ever watch the show Oz? Sure. Remember the poet guy who was illiterate, but he drew pictures, and that's how he recited his poems, from pictures. It's similar. But it's kind of reversed. It's in my brain.
Starting point is 01:24:11 It's there. So you're saying you're visual in terms of the stories you're painting, like the guy outside the liquor store. Or the imagery, yes. you know, a song like black Jesus, where it's like just kind of cultural, like fucking pop culture reference after reference, leading down a path of just like stream of consciousness, pop culture references. You know what I mean? I'll go on tangents, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:24:34 But it'll be all within an energy inside the brain. You know what I mean? Like once I commit them, I, even like after the fact, like when you turn in like music to like entities that shows or whatever, they want to know the lyrics so they can know if they should put it on air or this. It depends on whatever, if it's public network. But even when it comes to that, I have to recite it to somebody and have them type it.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I can't. It'll just kind of taint it to me. Wow, that's interesting. To see it written down like that. In my hand, you know what i mean and in another hand it doesn't bother me but like for me to come to do it it it it like it breaks a barrier of some sort that everything vaporizes so do you uh how do you capture the the various beats do you record it as you're coming up with it there's a there's a few different
Starting point is 01:25:25 ways it happens for me like you know if i'm doing like a hip-hop ish or hip pure hip-hop project i'll there'll be a beat involved always first you know i mean there'll be somebody have a track and we'll be like oh that's the track we're going to commit to this and we'll write lyrics to it it'll be just kind of like i said i'll i'll drive around a lot with rap stuff and just let it bump and see what words start popping up. I like wordplay and bouncing wordplay, but it can't just be wordplay for the sake of it. It has to tie into some sort of idea. When it comes to a song, it's usually I string together some simple chord progression.
Starting point is 01:26:01 And once I see something I really like, it'll just, like I said, pictures will start coming up and you kind of just try to describe the picture a little bit. And sometimes you come across poetry when you're describing the picture and you'll be like, that's good. You know what I mean? There's a lot of like, no, that's not good.
Starting point is 01:26:20 No, that's not good. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of that. It seems like a mirror process to stand-up comedy. Like mirror process except i get to hold on to mine even if they record it and make a special i still can play mine and that's that's what i was like man comedians are just that's a little bit it's a different commitment because like you're you're bringing you're like it's almost like a child you're raising that you have to watch the life of it finish. In a weird way.
Starting point is 01:26:46 You know what I mean? We both have children. That's extreme. I know what you're saying. But you're taking this idea from kind of garbagey idea that you know there's a premise there. And then over a fucking series of fucking shows or nights or fucking maybe months, you find it you know with different audiences and then you got it and you you get to rock it for maybe six months good in all these places and then you go and record it and make that special if you're lucky enough to be on that level you know it's
Starting point is 01:27:16 almost like i almost envy the comedy i wonder if you guys ever envy the comic who quite doesn't quite have that yet so he can like he has this you know bevy of material that he hasn't had to trash yet you know i mean is it talk to roy wood about that it was just on right before you he that's one of the things that he said that you shouldn't do tv for like 10 years like don't do it's like have a catalog man people come up with that idea like the first time you do anything that people get to see, be hardened, be a polished samurai of stand-up. I disagree. I say let them see everything. Let them see all the bullshit, all the stuff that sucks, all the terrible jokes.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Who cares? Just keep going. Especially if the progression's there. Then it's like, oh, you see what happened. Just keep going. And it's good for everybody. People don't want to think you're just like someone who just figured it out instantly. No, it's good to see that you sucked.
Starting point is 01:28:08 It's good for everybody. It might be bad for your ego, but it's good for you when your ego takes a hit. It's always good. It's always good. It puts everything in perspective. You know? Don't you think like as an artist too, like the thing that gets in your way more than anything is your ego, right?
Starting point is 01:28:23 The thing that gets in the way more than anything is the way right the thing that gets yeah in the way more than anything for sure the way you view yourself i wouldn't you want people to view you i wouldn't produce my own records until like maybe two albums ago because i felt like if i'd made it through an album without being like seriously challenged i didn't make the best record i could and then just being involved with a bunch of really seriously good producers, I learned to challenge myself. And even the records I've produced for myself, there's other guys involved producing with me that I know are going to be the ones, if that's something, hey, that sucked.
Starting point is 01:28:59 You know what I mean? You can eat that guy around. Or even a guy just to challenge even how committed you are to certain ideas. You know what I mean? How much time do you spend going over, like when you have a song and you're like, I think this song is solid. Do you, outside of singing the song, do you ever go over the song and ponder like what you're saying or how you're saying it? like what you're saying or how you're saying it like how do you because your stuff is so it's so interesting because you're you're you're telling these stories of your experiences in these songs and a lot of them and you're also having fun and you're also talking shit you're having
Starting point is 01:29:36 a good time with them as well but when you decide okay this one is going to be recorded like this how do you make that conclusion for me it's uh again if there's not like because i i can also even if i'm not doing necessarily a straight rap song there's times when i get a track from a producer that i just love the track and i'll build something around that other than that it'll again start with a guitar and i'll either um create a very uh rudimentary drum beat and lay down the guitar and maybe a vocal and i have a very unique voice you know it's not like so it's so there between the guitar and the voice tones start appearing that like resemble other instruments to me like it almost starts telling you what to do oh that's not this sounds i could hear a roads in there or i know the bass line should do that you know you can hear that and the guys i surround myself with are beasts that hear the same you know
Starting point is 01:30:35 they know oh yeah this i hear that let's do you know it's you can start a song will tell you what to do with it you know if you really listen to it i believe that because i i kind of uh you know one of the things santana told me you know that i always held on to is like you know because and i've experienced this once or twice where i've written very similar songs to friends of mine or people i know that was like whoa like maybe not sounding but like the idea oh wow i wrote something that was exactly and he said like you you know, we're all just antenna that are like catching energies and shit and likes bringing them in and we're you know, bringing take making some out of that energy and sometimes people catch that same energy and Similar things happen, you know, and so I always look at that
Starting point is 01:31:17 I look at my ideas like this, but also because I don't write them down I equate it to like my children like this. My ideas are like little animals that are wild. And I see them and I think they're amazing. So I'll play a song until I know it so well. It has to stick around. I train it to stay. And if it stays the next morning, this this kind of answers your question the next day if i write if i'm on to something and i write a song i'll sing it 200 times if i get it close to done
Starting point is 01:31:52 and then i'll go to bed and then if it's there in the morning in this in the same form i'll record it if it's gone i didn't it wasn't mine and that's happened a lot dude that's a brave move yeah i have the opposite cowards approach yeah if i get an idea i'll run away from everybody my my fingers in my ears and write it down now hear what i said i'll sing it 200 times you know what i mean so if i've done it 200 times and i don't wake up and know it it's fucking trash. I write everything down. It's not supposed to happen.
Starting point is 01:32:28 I have the total opposite approach in terms of writing comedy. How many specials have you made in your life? I never counted. Rough guess. It's like eight or nine. All right. That's how many albums I've done in almost 30 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:43 You know what I mean? So it's like I'm not turning them out like that. And I don't, again, because of that, there's not like this crazy archive of garbage that's going to be released when I'm dead. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen because even songs that I start to record,
Starting point is 01:33:00 if I get halfway through it and I'm not even satisfied with it, it gets erased. You know what I mean? There's a few things out there that that i probably wouldn't have released but they're not they're like from house of pain days yeah and they're not bad i'm just like they weren't for they didn't have a purpose i think it's good for people to see bad from great artists i do i think it's good it's good it's good for everybody i have no problem i mean i'm the guy that fuck i'll fuck up live and talk about it for five minutes at a show and be like yo at least you know it's not on fucking tape right i'll be like that's real shit you know now you know i'm with
Starting point is 01:33:35 that i'm just like it's my process it's like just the way i do like you know again also i think it has to do with i have some really hardcore producers like DJ Muggs and my man Dante Ross. These were dudes that would be like, that fucking was garbage. Do it again. It's for so long that the first time now is going to be decent. You know what I mean? So it's like I got to push myself for it to be better than decent. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:33:59 No, I get it. Otherwise, I just clip it. Yeah. Well, that's the only way you could be as productive as you are. You have a well-oiled approach. But I don't put out a lot of music. Yeah, but I know for a fact that when you put something out, you're happy about it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:19 I'm content. That's when you put it out. Content with it. You're in a great position, man, that you can kind of sort of decide what to do and when you put it out content that's a you're in a great position man that you can kind of sort of decide what to do and when to do it writing three of the biggest songs of the 90s with what it's like jump around and put your lights on well that was 2000 i think so but that little period i know and i wrote those songs jump around with mugs what it's like and put your lights on totally on my own that that provided me with something that i cherish like some people cherish private jet rides which is i can do whatever the fuck i want and still live pretty decent not super rich guy
Starting point is 01:35:01 or anything but like better than average no you got you got a good life. Take care of my family. But creatively, I could do whatever the fuck I want. And it's a beautiful thing, man. The older I get, like I'm on my whole new shit. My slogan is fuck it. I'm 50, man. That's my new shit, dog. I'm on like, you ain't going to rattle me, man.
Starting point is 01:35:21 I'm 50. I don't even care. How's that? If you're winning. There you go. I'm just trying to have fun, live my life, go home, hug my kids, and fucking know that nobody fucked with them at school and they had a great day and then my universe is complete. Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Yeah. Fucking I'm 50. Fuck it. I'm 50. Yeah. Beautiful. We need more people to think like that man I had a heart
Starting point is 01:35:48 valve replacement at 28 dude I didn't think I was going to make 35 you know what I mean so 50's put that microphone in the chest we haven't done that in a while so here this is a heartbeat it's not a watch
Starting point is 01:36:03 it's my heartbeat. It's like a goddamn metronome. Whoa. It's titanium, man. Wrap your head around that. You know, I got alien technology in my chest, my dude. Let's hope it stays together. Hope the doors don't fly off that thing click click click that's crazy yeah it's basically a very simple thing it's like a ring that goes in the valve and it's like a spring kind of activated flap that is totally self-propelled by the hearts pumping of the blood
Starting point is 01:36:42 it pumps the blood out of the flap. Then the flap kind of snaps back. And that's what you're hearing is the tick. It's just the spring of that. I mean, I could take my pulse without just sitting here, dude. You know what I mean? I could take my pulse without even thinking about it. Modern technology is so amazing. St. Jude's valve.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Shout out to the St. Jude's people. Whoever invented that shit. Leap Glorp from the motherfucking Vega and Star System whatever. They can figure out a way to make your heart work again with a fake valve. Click, click, click. It's wild.
Starting point is 01:37:19 And that's why you're here. That's why I'm still here, man. It's amazing. I often wondered afterwards, like, why? Why did it, why? What killed, John Ritter, what killed him was exactly kind of what happened to me. But I was able to get to the hospital faster. Did you ever meet that guy?
Starting point is 01:37:35 No. But I know that, like, when it happened, like, people pointed it out. Like, isn't that what happened to you? I was like, oh, yeah, that was. He was a special dude. He was on an episode of news radio. Everybody loved him man like so nice like wandering around the set like friendly to everybody like in a weird way like a
Starting point is 01:37:50 like just a he's just a genuinely really nice guy who just loved making sitcoms and um when he died i was like oh yeah it's one of them things it was so nice out of nowhere but when you find out that someone that's like you feel like nothing's gonna happen them things that's just out of nowhere. But when you find out that someone, you feel like, nothing's going to happen to him. He's so nice. And then one day, the clutch. The clutch of death. I was told by the people at the hospital when I went back to visit once that a while after they had brought me in. Because it took them a minute to figure out what was wrong with me.
Starting point is 01:38:24 A while after they had brought me in because it took them a minute to figure out what's wrong with me. The only reason they figured out what's wrong with me is because my actual doctor, who's this guy in Beverly Hills, I'm not going to say his name because I don't know if he wants that. But he was a member on the board of Cedars-Sinai. So when they brought me in the hospital, all his records are computer accessible to them. So they found out about my history of like being born with this heart defect. And because until then they heard rock dude he's a musician they were like all right how many how much cocaine did you do and all my friends were trying to let me doesn't do cocaine you know he's not and they're like going out if we give him the wrong drugs we could kill him like and then all of a sudden like the records came through and that's what saved my ass that along with the like uh the
Starting point is 01:39:02 head of surgery there like the guy who like did a double eight like nine hour surgery came off of one told the guys they couldn't do my surgery because it was too complex this guy dr william trento he's an amazing person he will not mind me shouting him out he like goes to south america and does all these free operations on kids hearts he's a fucking saint this guy's i'll tell you off fucking show some other shit he did that'll blow your fucking mind like wow that's who does that but he's he saved my life and you know i've just been like i said i didn't expect to be here 50 fuck it i'm 50 man i got two little girls i've got it's like a whole my whole thing right now is i want to take my girls like in the next like week or two over to see him just to be like yo dude these people wouldn't even exist right if it wasn't for you
Starting point is 01:39:50 dude like i think that blow his mind a little bit fuck yeah well shout out to all the people who fix hearts all those people fix anything fix all things you know fix all things if you fix shit yeah fucking salute right that's a positive thing yeah you fix i don't care if it's a sink or a heart or if you fix it good yeah or anything in between dude yeah yeah isn't that weird fixing shit is good fixing hearts though that's like particularly good like when that guy sees you on tv and shit, he's probably like, fix that guy. It's been a minute, but yeah, he probably,
Starting point is 01:40:26 fix that guy. Fix it up. Fix it up nice. Fix it up nice. He enjoys music. Thank you. They enjoy my work. Fuck it.
Starting point is 01:40:35 I'm going to tell the story. I'm going to tell it. Here's the story. Okay. A few years after my heart surgery, like when I had my heart surgery, I didn't have, I didn't have medical insurance.
Starting point is 01:40:43 I was young and dumb. Didn't, you know what I mean? Just didn't have it.'t have medical insurance i was young and dumb didn't you know i mean just didn't have it and uh so it was it fucking caused a real fucking it was like a half a million dollar fucking hit you know i mean but i you know i didn't declare bankruptcy i paid it all and i think this dude heard about that and they are i think guys like this must somehow invest in you when they know they saved your fucking life there's some there's a connection after that like that's one of my guys that's one of my guys right there so a few years later my mom when i was young had uh i believe hotchkiss disease is what it was and she had radiation treatment she beat it and all that but 20 years later that shit wears on your heart valves
Starting point is 01:41:20 and shit she had to have a triple bypass like it was kind of like oh shit like i was out on tour i had to come home. I was like, I want that guy to do the surgery just because he had already done mine. So he does my mom's surgery, and this guy fucking, I get all the bills. Now I'm doing all right, so it was cool. I get a bill from the fucking anesthesiologist. I get a bill from the fucking operating room. I get a bill from the hospital. I get a bill from the fucking anesthesiologist. I get a bill from the fucking operating room. I get a bill from the hospital.
Starting point is 01:41:46 I get a bill from this. I never got a bill from this man for my mom's surgery. Dude just was like, nah, that one's on me. Wow. Fucking crazy. Who gets a surgery done on them? Right? That's an amazing guy.
Starting point is 01:42:00 It was crazy, dude. That's amazing. No, this dude goes, and then I started looking into who he was, and this guy goes and does fucking tons and tons of surgeries on kids down in South America. He's just one of them dudes, man. Who saves your mom on the house? What?
Starting point is 01:42:17 What? That guy. Who saves your mom on the house? That guy. God bless him. God bless him. God bless him. Yeah, man. There's nice people out there. God bless him. God bless him. God bless him. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:42:26 There's nice people out there. There really are. We're fed this false narrative that everybody sucks because so many people do suck. But there's so many people. It's just a perspective issue. It's the same reason why people think the world is flat. They don't understand perspective. The perspective when you're talking about human beings and seven billion people,
Starting point is 01:42:46 we're just overflowing with people. There's so many of us. There's so many stories of people sucking. But it's all a perspective issue because there's so many goddamn people. And most of them are cool. And most of them want to be cool. And they would be more cool
Starting point is 01:43:00 if they knew you were going to be cool. We all agree to be cool. We can be cool we can have a better time here we're wasting time with nonsense and arguments at all and and and and conflict that all could have been disrupted from the very beginning by everybody being nice this is why we need the alien invasion alien because a lot of people are invested in a lot and a lot of shit that's meaningless. We won't even go into it.
Starting point is 01:43:27 We can all infer what those things are between us and the audience can do the same. But what I'm saying is there's just too much fucking bullshit about dumb shit that we need some kind of outside fucking focus. Yes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:43:42 100%. Something that will take us from outside ourselves and make us focus on something else or legalize mushrooms which might be um global warming but that's that's not real right no legalized mushrooms moved to greenland trump's on it he's already trying to buy greenland dude no he canceled his fucking trip to den Denmark because they said they're not going to sell him Greenland. He was talking shit. Now he knows what he's doing. Listen, Trump's going to get us Greenland.
Starting point is 01:44:15 When you and I are going to come bow hunting with Greenland. It's like fucking, oh man, it's a bizarro world. That's all. I think people go to greenland to bowhunt the bowhunt i think they bowhunt that that gigantic fucking furry thing what is that thing called the muskox uh google greenland muskox you ever see a muskox you want to know but i want to see one and i also want to know when i'm getting invited for an elk barbecue dude come on you know i mean i'm gonna i'm to put a kitchen in here, in this place.
Starting point is 01:44:47 I have plans. I'll tell you. I'll come play it. Hold, please. Hold, please. Let me show you a musk ox. 100% success rate on bow hunting in Greenland on a musk ox. Because you just walk right up to them.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Oh, you know what it is? Because they have an instinct to protect themselves against wolves, so they all huddle together when threatened. So you could just catch them all in a group? Yeah, but look what they look like, bro. They don't even look real. They look like something out of Star Wars. Those are kind of interesting, but look.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Go to the side, Jamie, some of those other images. When you see... Yeah, they're like that. Perfect. When you see that walking around, you'll be like, what the fuck is that, man? It looks like a tauntaun. That's insane
Starting point is 01:45:25 it looks like a lion fucked a elephant fucked a mammoth like what is that a buffalo what is that the fuck is that thing those crazy ass horns wild looks like a buffalo with a tina turner wig and dude it could be 150 million degrees below zero those things just chill they're just out there eating frozen grass horns come from like their cheekbones dude they're crazy looking barely looks like a real thing barely they're beautiful and apparently um tastes good apparently it's fucking fantastic yeah that's awesome my friend brendan burns shot one in um i think he said he got his either in antarctica you can go to like really really cold climates and get i think it's like is it north northern canada there's somewhere in northern canada where you hunt them where it's crazy like
Starting point is 01:46:17 you just get on uh you either get pulled by by snowmobiles or you get pulled by dogs. And you go like way, way, way the fuck out. Where if you break down, if your snowmobile breaks down or if your dogs all die, you are fucked. I mean you are so, so, so, so, so fucked. Because there's nothing, man. There's nothing. There's the occasional polar bear and these fucking musk ox. And they're up there.
Starting point is 01:46:46 And they don't even look like real things. And you're stumbling across. Imagine going through a whiteout snowstorm to stumble across this 2,000-pound, enormous, gigantic, hairy, prehistoric beast that you can just walk up to and shoot with a bow and arrow and eat. That's what's up there right now. they're like a remnant of the past like to the same i want to see what they like how what this if they fight with those things that'd be crazy use it to fuck up other males that's what most of those animals they're not fighting off predators with that shit it's definitely related to breeding and all that shit for sure. They think some of it is like in some animals, depending upon how much pressure they get from predators, like elk, keep their antlers very late. They keep their antlers like into March and April because a lot of them live around wolves. And the idea is that they need those antlers to protect themselves from wolves.
Starting point is 01:47:44 So they hold on to them longer than deer do biology it's real crazy yeah dude we're so lucky we're so lucky we're out here out the food chain oh my god not only out the food chain you and i can go right down the street and get a fat steak dinner, friend. Is that on the agenda? I cannot this evening, but I would like to do it soon. You know our spot? Yeah. I'm sparking this, man.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Oh, you're crazy. No, we're dead on the edge. You're living on the edge. Do you have the lighter? Oh, I won't do it. You don't use a lighter? Yeah, I'm saying. Oh, it's right here.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Oh, okay. I thought maybe you were one of those, I only use a mask. And it will play into the next tune we're going to do in a minute. They come off the top. Yeah, they come off the top. Sorry, I wasn't even thinking that. Oh, it's like a helmet-y kind of thing. I see.
Starting point is 01:48:36 I think they fuck things up with that bony part in the front above their eyebrows. They keep those for life, too. It's not like a deer. You know, a deer loses their antlers every year. These motherfuckers like a fucked up hairdo it does it does they're so beautiful though they're so beautiful like that one right there jamie click above like they mom did their hair for church right there like above above above right there right there right there click on that that's a beautiful creature i mean it's so amazing that nature can make fish. It can make an eagle.
Starting point is 01:49:10 It's a type of buffalo, yes. And it can make that. Like buffalo or... I don't know, man. What is it? Bison related. Ox. It's an ox.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Must ox. Aren't they all related? Bison and all that. I wish I knew. Go to kids facts. Kids facts? What does it say? It's cattle.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Often compared to cattle. It's a cow with a big coat. Yeah. That's a northern cow. It's a herbivore. Yeah, there you go. Wow. Furry highland cow.
Starting point is 01:49:39 Part of the Bovidae family. All the species in this family have two toed hooves, four chambered stomachs, and are herbivores. So it's like a kind of cow type thing. Fuck, it's amazing. You think aliens mutate them? Nope. That's what we're supposed to be right now. What we're supposed to be right now is some sort of stupid, fucking hairy dumbass that's running around getting eaten by shit.
Starting point is 01:50:03 But the aliens came down and said, listen, let's just plant some of our stuff in these monkeys and see what we can do. I'm in, dude. When are they coming back? That's what happened, man. That's what I'm saying. When are they coming back?
Starting point is 01:50:12 Probably pretty soon. Soon. It's got to be, dude. It's been brought up more and more in the narrative. And every time we go to sleep, we wake up in a new universe. And I think along those lines that they're coming. They're on the way right now.
Starting point is 01:50:24 Which is not quite ready yet everlast maybe you are but some people are not some people if the aliens were hovering over universal studios right now lose their minds moving down to 101 over the hollywood bowl amazing and those little fucking times whether it was the end or the beginning or whatever it would be amazing it would be very interesting if the whole thing would go down you know i mean if it was the end of all cool yeah let's i mean i'm not incur i'm not saying hey bring it on but i'm saying if that's what it is it is or if it's the next stage of like enlightenment and fucking you know all that goodness what do you think people do if them, like, hovered over every major city?
Starting point is 01:51:09 You know what I think? What we're talking about is what would the majorly religious do? Because I think that would affect religious thought the most. Right off top. You know what I mean? Besides the fear of, like, what are they here for? Right. The first thing was, like, whoa, a whole bunch of ideology goes out the fucking window right now.
Starting point is 01:51:31 You know what I mean? So that would cause a lot of panic and anxiety right there alone. You know, you tell them your whatever story or whatever religion. I'm not going to even go there. I like that thing. Let's blanket it. Yeah. It's going to upset a lot I like that thing. Let's blanket it. It's going to upset a lot of folk. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:51:49 Right away. Just like, oh my God, that's not what we thought existed. We are the center of everything. You know what I think would happen? I think people would just start fucking. Flat earthers go out the window right away. That's just over.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Maybe not. Maybe like the aliens travel here from another dimension they have a new explanation for it maybe the thing about like being a flat earther or the thing about any kind of like thing that you could decide was already proven is that it doesn't matter what the facts are anymore what matters is what people agree to that's what's interesting about it like you realize that there's like a certain number of people you need to have to start a community, and it doesn't have to make sense. You just have to have enough people that agree to it.
Starting point is 01:52:30 If enough people agree to it, you can push some pretty preposterous ideas through, and a bunch of people hop on board, and they're happy to be on your group. That's the problem with groups. The problem with groups is people will just join groups. Isn't that the big lie? The big lie thing, the whole with groups. The problem with groups is people will just join groups. Isn't that the big lie? The big lie theory. The big lie thing. The whole mind comp.
Starting point is 01:52:49 Yep. Big lie theory. I believe that's the original, like where I'm quoting that from. I mean, even if you think about a country, right? You think about a country and you think about America,
Starting point is 01:52:58 which we both love and live in. Yes, sir. It's, what is it? You know, it's an idea, right? It's an idea right it's an idea it's an idea that everybody who's in this thing is cool to each other everybody's in this thing is part of a team yeah that's really what it is bring us your broken mass and all that stuff from the from the from the
Starting point is 01:53:19 uh statue of liberty some more i've been thinking i i think about this thing or huddled masses is that that am i getting there it's been a while i know i'm 50 you know i mean right but i know what you're saying it's um like whatever we are like we we are what we agree we are we are what we agree we are like we don't this most of what we're uh in conflict about is fucking stupid and as a country like we're supposed to be uh we're supposed to agree that we're all in this together so what we're in conflict about is fucking stupid. And as a country, we're supposed to agree that we're all in this together. So if we're all in this together, it should be good for everybody. We could do that.
Starting point is 01:53:53 We could do that better than we think we can. Way better. Way better. But the problem is the conflict. Some of it's unnecessary, man. Woo! That's a good sound effect for that moment. Perfect. You know, some of it is just unnecessary in these these moments man it's moments when we have fun moments when we get together moments
Starting point is 01:54:14 when we hug moments when we have a drink together moments we'll listen to some music moments when we're all leaving a concert together or a movie together that we realize like we're all in this together we're all right it's just like we just got to navigate it better that's all it is we're crashing into each other honestly it goes moments we mourn together i mean i'm honestly i mean i hate to say this but you know i've seen a lot of my older friends more funerals lately than other events and but they turn into celebrations if you know i mean because we all understand like all right man yeah we're hey i'm glad i am seeing you right now let's fucking yeah yeah you know and whoever it was that we're celebrating definitely doesn't want that they want this yeah for sure i
Starting point is 01:54:57 don't when i go party the fuck up yes party fuck up and say like that guy did all right yeah he did all right he did he's a pretty good dad bro every uf made a few bucks played made a few bucks that's dana man dana just played that song no matter what i mean god love i gotta get my 25 cents man i gotta get my 25 cents every episode dog man come on you begrudging me my 25 cents i love it i love it i was walking out of the octagon. I forget who I was interviewing. My favorite is this. Every once in a while. There's a few people who choose that song. Like Cynthia Cavillo.
Starting point is 01:55:32 Well, let's shout out to the first, Marcus Davis. Yeah, Marcus Davis. He did the first thing, and then he went into the jump around. But some people, every once in a while, I don't know, maybe if they picked a bad song or something. Out of nowhere, one time, Lyota machida came out to jump around and i'm like i texted dana i was like who the fuck picked that he's like i did and he didn't even remember he didn't go any further and i was like oh he must have picked the song dana hated or something well some of these cats they'll choose music and dana was like nah and i think
Starting point is 01:56:03 the go-to jam if you fucking pick something he doesn't like, is jump around. Because I'll be like, that was random, man. I was like, how did that happen? It's funny. It's funny when there's a song that plays all the time that connects you to one of your friends. It's like as I'm walking out of the octagon, it's like. it's like as i'm walking out of the octagon it's like there was a period of about six years where anywhere dana was it could be i could be he could be on the other side of the world i'm sleeping so i'd get a phone call and it'd just
Starting point is 01:56:39 be a phone in the air at a club i'd be playing i'd be like dude come on you guys nailed that song so hard there's like moments in space time that get nailed just like you you you you just hit something that resonates with people i i i uh i uh i i i steal uh danny's quote danny boy's quote of uh it's the louis louis of the 90s it's it's louis louis it's the Louie Louie of the 90s. It's Louie Louie. It's just there. It's part of the... It's almost not mine anymore. It belongs to the universe. It's weird. Every
Starting point is 01:57:14 ball game I go to, any event I go to, it gets played. And it's not even like a big deal about... Some places it's a big deal. You get these football games, college shit like Wisconsin's and stuff where it's part part of a tradition but i'm saying any event angels game or dodgers game or yankees game or laker game or football game it's it pops up somewhere along the line dude you're right up there with queen it's crazy it's wild i mean
Starting point is 01:57:41 you're talking about like individual songs and their imprint on something it's it's bananas it's wild i mean as you're talking about like individual songs and their imprint on something it's it's bananas it's it's it's something to like i can't you can't almost invest your thought in it because it can get like whoa it's it's it's really kind of a part of of pop culture it's ingrained on a on an amer it's an american phenomenon and. I mean, like worldwide. I mean, where can you go where they probably never heard jump around? It's weird. I mean, to think about it on that level is crazy. Maybe like one of them places where Trump's trying to buy.
Starting point is 01:58:16 Maybe up in Greenland. No. They heard it. They heard it. Queen had We Are the Champions, and it also had We Will Rock You. Those are two of the greatest sports anthems of all time. Queen nailed two of them. Like, what are the fucking pandas?
Starting point is 01:58:34 Two of them. We Will Rock You and We Are the Champions. It's actually the same song, too. Is it the same song? Isn't it? Yeah, they blend into each other. Oh, but they're two different songs. They're technically connected.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Like if you had to buy them on iTunes, you'd have to buy two songs. I think, is it a slash in there? Is it a We Will Rock You, We Are The Champions? They come together? On the record, when the record came out, they went right back to back. Yeah, there's no space. Was it two and three, or was it recognized as one individual song? On the label, it was listed as two different titles.
Starting point is 01:59:03 Two different titles. You're not mic'd up. People can't hear so i'm trying to oh okay sorry yeah there you go here we go sorry dj man so yeah so that was actually one of the first albums i got when i was a kid but on the actual label which has like the titles of the songs they were listed as two different titles but on the actual vinyl the surface of the record it was one groove so the songs just went right into each other so so if you were in a diner and you put like those quarters in that thing and you played that right give you one song or would it give you no it usually gives you both questions it gives you both good question remember man diner music yeah i was listening to
Starting point is 01:59:41 uh i feel like my memory get that microphone I feel like my memory I'll share with you We share with you I feel like my memory I see like a We will rock you Slash we are the champions Thing like going on In that kind of sense
Starting point is 01:59:53 Like I feel like You would have got both songs Cause they don't stop I don't remember There is no stop There's not even a clean place To edit it really Right
Starting point is 02:00:00 If I'm right That's crazy That it's two songs Do you remember those Wheels of the diners In the east coast that would roll? Yeah, see? The slap down.
Starting point is 02:00:05 Yeah, yeah. It's kind of a slash. We're the champions. We will rock you. Oh, so it's two songs. It's two different songs. It's two songs, but it's one. So I was just driving a U-
Starting point is 02:00:15 But on the 45, it only has We Will Rock You on one side. That's interesting. Interesting. I was driving a U-Haul truck last weekend. I'm in the process of moving. So all we had was AM FM radio So I was listening to K Earth 101 And We Will Rock You came on
Starting point is 02:00:31 And right away it came We Are The Champions It played it as one song Well they go together You know Perfectly But it is clearly two different jams Right? It's great. It's similar themes, though.
Starting point is 02:00:47 He was a goddamn wizard. We will rock you. We are the champions. That band, they were really sorcerers. He was amazing. Freddie Mercury was wild. He was amazing. It was crazy.
Starting point is 02:00:58 He was so unusual. The vocal. He would strut on stage. I mean, it was just a masterpiece of Bohemian Rhapsody alone. It's just crazy. I know, right? Like, when you think of, like, rock albums, and you think of songs, and you think of that one, you're like, what is that? I write these little three-chord songs with a nice story over it and shit.
Starting point is 02:01:17 And this dude was doing, like, fucking 16-part harmonies of Bismillah. No, we will not let you go. Like, wrote, like, a rock opera, like, within four, five minutes. It was, it's fucking bananas how genius that shit is. And it's great to listen to. Like, it's super entertaining. It's captivating. He was a goddamn, goddamn hero.
Starting point is 02:01:42 For sure, right? Freddie. Yeah. I haven't seen the movie. I haven't seen the movie I haven't seen the movie though after they stopped having fucking Borat do it I'm like I'm out see cause I like to show that guy's on that Mr. Robot I'm sure I'd like him too
Starting point is 02:02:00 but it doesn't matter once you tease me with Ali G and then you pull him away i don't know i mean that's not why i didn't see i just haven't had the chance but i heard that borat wanted to do a lot of like uh crazy he was anyone yeah he probably wanted to do all he wanted to have dongs flapping around you know i mean he wanted all that he wanted to go the other he wanted to go the dark side of freddie he wanted to be wild. I'm sure the guy who did it did a great job. The problem is whenever someone gets attached to the idea of someone else doing it, and
Starting point is 02:02:29 then the new guy comes in, he's forever tainted. But if you haven't, and you ever go on TV little show binges, that guy's show, Mr. Robot, is pretty fucking good. It's pretty fucking good. I've heard it's really funny. It's fucking bizarre, futuristic hacker weirdness. It's fucking, it's pretty fucking good i've heard it's really funny i it's fucking like bizarre like futuristic hacker weirdness it's fucking it's pretty dope dude this is the best time ever if you want to just sit and watch tv like is there a better time it's ever existed no dude you smoke
Starting point is 02:02:55 weed it's legal you can just sit and watch 42 episodes of a show i don't encourage too much this behavior but occasionally i think it it's important and probably even therapeutical. But if you could just sit down and watch something on TV, there's more shit to watch today than the human race has ever seen, ever. That's a fact. They're making new TV shows every goddamn minute. They're having it right now. They're putting them out on Hulu. They're putting them out on Amazon.
Starting point is 02:03:19 They're putting them out on Netflix. They don't even stagger them. They drop an entire season. Boom! It's out. Watch it. Deal with it. Deal with it, bitch.
Starting point is 02:03:28 You watch Stranger Things? Yes. I'm on episode five. Don't tell me shit. Of what? The most recent season? Yeah, yeah. Hush.
Starting point is 02:03:35 Everybody hush. It's good. It's good. I enjoy it. I enjoy it. I can't tell you I enjoy it? Don't get blasphemous. No.
Starting point is 02:03:41 I ain't going to tell you anything else. It's a little bit better than good. I'll tell you a couple good ones I enjoy. A couple good ones I enjoy. You fuck with Ozark? Oh, dude, do I fuck with Ozark? Okay, there we go. There's Ozark. If I had to give up one, it wouldn't be Ozark. They canceled it, but the
Starting point is 02:03:55 seasons that exist are fucking hilarious. Have you watched this Santa Clarita Diet? No. It's with Drew Barrymore and the guy from Timothy Olyphant from Deadwood, that guy. Hmm. to diet no it's with drew barrymore and um the guy from timothy timothy oliphant from like uh deadwood that guy yo it's like it's i'm not even gonna say anything else but yo y'all could come thank me later go check that shit out it's like two seasons of it and they canceled it for some reason hopefully they'll bring it back if a lot of enough people like it but i'm telling you it's
Starting point is 02:04:21 fucking hilarious it's like if you like zombie kind of weirdness but I'm telling you, it's fucking hilarious. It's like, if you like zombie kind of weirdness, but it ain't really scary, it's fucking hilarious is what it is. It's craziness. Beautiful. Have you ever watched Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt? I have not.
Starting point is 02:04:33 Gotta watch that. I'll check it out. That is a goddamn hilarious show. That's a good show to sit down with your wife because you'll laugh your ass off. We're always looking for this. She'll love it.
Starting point is 02:04:41 Listen, it's hilarious. It's about a lady who was in a cult and she got locked up in a basement for like 13 years, and then she got out, and she doesn't know what the fuck anything is, but she's hilariously optimistic. It's really funny. My wife got me on this one.
Starting point is 02:04:54 It's not that, but it's like this lady, like chick comic, and I don't know her name, and I don't know the name of the show right now, but it's fucking hilarious, and she's like a Larry David-esque chick. Like, she's Larry David-esque, I should say. Like, the show is like, she's always like the fucking mom who's like fucking Larry David is chick like she's did Larry David esque I should say like the show is like she's always like the fucking mom was like fucking doing some crazy shit There's like an episode of like where there's a mom amongst the crew that's like done porno And so all the moms are talking about but like the fucking shows hilarious. I got it. Oh, man. I can't remember I gotta think of the show who's in it. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I watch shit with my wife sometimes, and I'm just going to get the name of it real quick
Starting point is 02:05:29 while we're here. Are you talking about The Handmaid's Tale? No. No, it's definitely not that. Is that what he's talking about? It's definitely not that. What are you saying? It's something like No Apologies or something about apologies.
Starting point is 02:05:41 Sorry Not Sorry. Sorry Not Sorry. Thank you. Oh, okay. Fucking shit is hilarious, dude. That lady is fucking hilarious. Who's that? I don't know her name. Sorry Not Sorry. Sorry Not Sorry. Thank you. Fucking shit is hilarious, dude. That lady is fucking hilarious. Who's that? I don't know her name.
Starting point is 02:05:49 I'm sorry. Andrea Savage. There you go. She sounds savage. She's fucking funny, dude. It is savage. The show's pretty savage. But it's like some Dirty Larry David kind of vibes.
Starting point is 02:05:58 What kind of a burden do you have with a name like Savage? You better produce. You can't run around and be lazy with a name like Savage. You can't. You gotta bring it. like Savage. Like, you better produce. You can't run around and be lazy with a name like Savage. You can't. You gotta bring it. Bob Savage. Bob Savage is sitting there smelling his own farts.
Starting point is 02:06:12 What? Jamie's in a panic. I googled that. I just googled that Sorry Not Sorry with Amanda Savage and nothing came up then. Oh, that's weird.
Starting point is 02:06:21 I had an article up that just said that. That's definitely it because I've known my way. That's why I was saying apologies or something. Sorry Not Sorry. That's just the article I had up. There she goes. That's weird I had an article up That's definitely it Cause I've known That's why I was saying Apologies or something Sorry not sorry That's her
Starting point is 02:06:28 Oh she's fucking hilarious Sorry not sorry On her unapologetic New comedy Good for her I'm sorry I'm sorry The show's called
Starting point is 02:06:34 I'm sorry I'm sorry The article is titled Sorry not sorry Yeah okay There you go I knew it was an apology Or something like that
Starting point is 02:06:40 God we're stupid It's fucking hilarious We're done I do the least research Of any show ever That has this kind of reach. Well, you guys are winging it kind of in a lot of ways, dude.
Starting point is 02:06:50 I mean, it's kind of beautiful. It's the beauty of the show, though, a little bit. This thing is 100% winged. You want some of this? I'm sitting on a little bit, but yeah. Don't be scared, homie.com.
Starting point is 02:07:03 Don't be scared, homie.com. Shout out to Nate Diaz, victorious. Shout out to Anthony Pettis, a gladiator. It was a good fight. It was a great fight. I totally agree with the outcome. Yes. Oh, definitely.
Starting point is 02:07:17 Definitely. Nate won that fight for sure. I was complimented when I walked into Dana's green room and was told I smelled like I just came from Nate Diaz's camp. Did you see the video of him in the open workout? Yes. It was amazing. I love that, man. Thank God for that guy.
Starting point is 02:07:33 The fuck's given is at an all-time low. All-time low. Thank God for that guy. He's so important. Just be you. Yeah. Love that guy. That's what he's doing.
Starting point is 02:07:42 I mean, he's fighting for the baddest motherfucker in the game. That was at 170, right? Yes. Yes. Yeah, fuck cutting weight. He doesn't need to cut weight. But I love when he's talking about fighting for the baddest motherfucker in the game belt. Who am I going to send this belt to?
Starting point is 02:07:55 So that's the belt he's referring to. Okay. Because I was like, this was for a belt? It was only three rounds. I was like, wait a minute. I'm so confused. I was thinking about explaining. I was a little high and drunk myself. No, I was thinking about trying to get him to explain that to people but i was
Starting point is 02:08:08 like i'm gonna just let him go i don't i don't even want to get in the way of this i'm glad i know now what belt he's talking about yeah he's talked about it multiple times that's a great fight he called out but he said that he said defend this belt and i was like okay he's talking about the baddest motherfucker in the game belt i thought he was gonna say it but i i probably should have asked him what belt it was. No, it's more beautiful like that there's like this. No, it's perfect.
Starting point is 02:08:29 It's like an Easter egg. What a great name. The baddest motherfucker in the game belt. We should be so happy that guy's a real thing. We should be so happy. And that fight,
Starting point is 02:08:43 it would be amazing. Yeah, man. That would be incredible. Masvidal's a real thing we should be so happy and that fight it would be amazing yeah man that would be incredible masvidal is a straight-up murderer he's a straight-up murderer so is nate that would be chaos that'd be chaos and then those two guys want to do it those are two i mean just wild dogs going at it those guys are both like to the core they're they're they're fighters to the core there's no quitting either one of those guys i mean that's a wild fight man especially right now like financially that's an amazing fight right now people would pay a lot of money to see that fight masvidal and nate diaz they're those are two guys that are like the most exciting and most talked about guys in the sport right now. If those guys decided to fucking smash horns,
Starting point is 02:09:28 woo! It looked like they were more than willing. Yeah. I hope they make that. That would be an amazing fight. I hope they make that happen. That would be goddamn bananas. And maybe one of them will come out to chomp around. If they pick something shitty enough.
Starting point is 02:09:46 No, at're level. I think they get to pick their own music. As long as they don't have like... Yeah, but we're talking about... Wait, wait. But Lyoto Machida. Yeah. I want to know the story behind that.
Starting point is 02:09:56 One day I'm on the corner, Dana, and we're like, you know, when he's not the fucking busiest dude on earth. Yeah. And be like, what the fuck? What happened there? What song did he pick you were mad which leota fight was i don't know man i'm sure somebody knows but i wonder if he won
Starting point is 02:10:10 because that would be interesting to see um i think fuck with his vibe i'm not sure i think he did because i keep track of shit like that because it's fucking i hate it almost when somebody, because one of my favorite guys, oh my God, the beard, super duper friends with Tate. Keith Jardine? Thank you. The Dean of Mean. Dean of Mean. Keith Jardine.
Starting point is 02:10:37 He came out to my version of fucking Folsom Prison, and I was so jacked about it, and he lost that fight, and I I felt like it made me feel horrible Like oh man, my son. Oh, this is Chris Weidman when he fought Leona cheat. Oh, that's what it was That's when the other see he put the kibosh on Leona. Oh, so he yeah, you let's see. Yeah, I took which look man I didn't ask for that Fucking ass for that, dude. I I didn't ask for that. I didn't fucking ask for that, dude.
Starting point is 02:11:06 I don't need that pressure. That wasn't going to save him. Don't pick my shit. A song wasn't going to save him. You know what I mean? That's one of those weird ones. It's like, how bad is a song that you won't let a person pick their own song? That's what I want to know. It's not that much time.
Starting point is 02:11:19 I mean, it's only like the walk to the Oxygen is not a full song. It's only like three minutes. But all those Brazilian guys always come out to the... You know what I mean? Like fucking... They come out to the fucking wildest music, some of those dudes. The axe murderer used to come out to some real questionable fucking Dutch disco house. He did.
Starting point is 02:11:42 He did. He did. He came out to like raw techno. crazy oh my god yeah that's right dutch disco Swedish house mafia oh my god you're so right crazy that's exactly what he's coming out to Like Like Overtly like over the top too The number one worst Number one worst walkout song I said the number one
Starting point is 02:12:14 Worst My favorite was when Randy Couture Came out to Ted Nugent's Stranglehold I was like if there is ever a song That's like design like that that seems like a fight that's a fight playing song you know like you're about to have a fight that's the song you want playing stranglehold michael chiesa uses that too a couple guys use triangle hold now that's a song like stranglehold and it's it's one of those songs. Anything by ACDC. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:46 Thunderstruck. Come out to a fight. Cool. Yeah. Just that Angus's tone on the guitar. It's over. You got anger. Yeah. Right? I'm on the highway to hell. Rich Franklin used to come out to Thunderstruck
Starting point is 02:13:02 when he was the middleweight champion. Thunderstruck When he was the middleweight champion Thunderstruck Does that how the song came out to? I know he definitely came out to an ACDC song I think it is It feels like right Questioning That was big like right then too
Starting point is 02:13:21 Yeah ACDC is like one of those bands where You hear like three or four chords you're like easy easy like instantly like for sure angus young again his guitar tone just the song was called for those about to rock oh he came out that's what those about to but didn't come out to uh thunderstruck too i think when he fought anderson silva he came out to thunderstruck c126 he did did for those about... Which fight was that?
Starting point is 02:13:47 Who was he fighting? I think for sure he came out to Thunderstruck. Google is your friend. But he was a... He was a... ACDC dude. Oh, when he fought Forrest Griffin.
Starting point is 02:13:55 He was an ACDC dude. You think about walkout music is big, man. You can't deny someone their walkout music. Was it Chuck Liddell he beat with a broken arm? Like Chuck kicked him in the arm and broke it? I feel like I was there, but I might not.
Starting point is 02:14:11 I might have just been seeing it on TV. Depends on where it was. I don't know. K.O.ed him. Chuck broke his arm in the first round. And then he clipped him with a punch with his other hand. He even punched him with his broken arm. That was crazy.
Starting point is 02:14:23 Yeah. Same song out of UFC 72. Oh, okay. Maybe that was his song. For those about to rock. Mm-hmm. Hmm. Great song either way.
Starting point is 02:14:30 Like, when everybody hit me, apparently when Stipe knocked out DC, like, there's an angle where I was like, you saw me. Mm-hmm. And then, like, recently I saw, did you ever see the meme with Khabib where he's, like, staring at Conor after knocking out fucking, I think it's Jose. And it's me. I'm talking to fucking Khabib, but he's just staring like this.
Starting point is 02:14:56 There's a meme that just focuses in on him. It's fucking crazy. So it's got me thinking. I wonder how, like I said, I've been to so many of these fucking fights that I don't even, you know, I was like trying to remember and it's like I can't even remember. Yeah, you've been coming to them for almost as long as I've been working for the UFC. Yeah. Or close to it.
Starting point is 02:15:14 Basically. Yeah. Close to it. Not as, but close. In the neighborhood. You know what I mean? A couple years behind. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:21 Yeah. But like, you know. You were the first guy I ever smoked pot indoors with in Vegas. I was like, we can just smoke pot here? I was like a little kid. I think what I said, what are they going to do? I go, where do you want to go? And he's like, go.
Starting point is 02:15:33 And he just sparked the joint. What are you going to do? We're in the middle of a club. And I was like, okay. All right. Yeah, right there, dude. But like somebody had made a meme that said something about Khabib and his concentration. And I started focusing in on him like this.
Starting point is 02:15:50 It was hilarious. Change your mind on that. Make that bigger. Does it make it bigger? Is it possible to make it bigger? Let me tell you something. Listen, look at Khabib's face. Is there a harder man that's ever lived?
Starting point is 02:16:02 Look at that face. Let me tell you, though. He came out like two fights before that fight and he was the nicest guy to everybody that came up to him oh he's nice he everybody came to me engaged with him talked to him soon as the connor fight was about to happen that was it for the whole he just was watching connor the whole time and and like and like we were talking like he like in the whole time like i said we talking the whole time. Like I said, we were engaging. What I'm saying to him right there is like, oh shit,
Starting point is 02:16:28 y'all probably fighting next kind of thing. Because he was like, I want to fucking fight that guy. And they got into it backstage at that shit. Wow. But it just made me laugh and it made me start thinking like I wonder how much shit I'm like in the background
Starting point is 02:16:44 of. You know what I mean? Oh, a ton of them. One of the best ones ever was Ari and Duncan kissing. Remember when they planned it? They planned it. And so these guys, the camera passed in front of them, and they grabbed each other and started making out just so they could be on camera.
Starting point is 02:16:59 Watch this. Look at it. Watch this. Right here, the camera pans to them. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. And Dana, Dana texts me afterwards. Did your friends fucking make out on paper here?
Starting point is 02:17:24 Oh, man. Oh, shit. What's up? What's up, Jimmy? I thought I was with them at that fight. Were you? They might have been on a substance, psychedelic. Oh, they probably were.
Starting point is 02:17:37 Yeah, they probably were. That was common practice. Common practice of the day. Want to bang one more up? Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do smoking and drinking. That seems appropriate.
Starting point is 02:17:50 Yes. Let me check. All right. DJ Melody. And let's one more give a little shout out. Him and the Beat Junkies have a school in Glendale, California. It's called Beat Junkies Institute of Sound. They teach kids,
Starting point is 02:18:06 youngsters, and grown-ups how to DJ like properly, like real DJs. Yeah. Beautiful. Beat Junkies.
Starting point is 02:18:14 That's real. By the way, this is real. He's got people just listening. These are actual turntables. This isn't some bullshit. This is like...
Starting point is 02:18:26 Can you back me up on this? This is real shit. This is Russell Peters approved, right? It's a real DJ. I'm on my bullshit bar stool Pimping on solid fried chicken On whiskey soaked August day And she told me last summer That she lost her only lover Cause he got himself locked away
Starting point is 02:19:04 He was cooking, them tripping She was on post tripping She told me last summer that she lost her only lover cause he got himself locked away He was cooking, meth tripping, she was on post tripping, just a malacanis apple pie Now she's looking for a lover cause she won't be a mother, trying to show me that she's trying to die She looks a little bit weathered but she down for whatever and she probably knows her trick or two Said she got a few friends If you got a couple in Boy, they probably let you fuck them too All of my bullshit Smoking and drinking
Starting point is 02:19:31 Just wasting my time No worrying, no thinking More women, more wine All of my bullshit Smoking and drinking Just wasting my time No worrying, no thanking, more women, more wine I'm on my bullshit, drinking with some troubles, just start to see double and put me in a city jail
Starting point is 02:20:04 Sometimes you make problems and always solve them And always walk around with bail Now I lost a few nights and I lost a couple fights Blacked out on whiskey, bitch I sold a whole lot of ticks, fucked a bunch of hot chicks In a couple that'll make you cringe I got to keep it 100, I said it but done it Don't give a fuck about how you feel All the cheaters and liars we achieve in the fire So fuck about how you keepin' it real
Starting point is 02:20:33 I'm on my bullshit, smokin' and drinkin' You're wastin' my time No worryin', no thinkin' More thinking, more wine than more wine. I want my bullshit smoking and drinking, no wasting my time. No worrying, no thinking, more wine than more wine. I want my bullshit, low temp dabbing, pistol grip grabbing, I'm a chrome plated man of steel Civilian rated, can't be unrated cause I like to tell it how I feel Pushed on a snug, got a whole lot of love for the people that been holding me down I made a whole lot of friends and I kept a few hands Whole time I've been fucking around I'm on my bullshit, smoking and drinking You're wasting my time No whippin', no thinkin'
Starting point is 02:21:36 More women, more wine I'm on my bullshit, smoking and drinking You're wasting my time No whippin', no thinkin' and drinkin' You're wastin' my time No workin', no thinkin' More women, more wine I'm on my bullshit Woo! Dude. Woo!
Starting point is 02:22:08 Dude. That's a great fucking song, man. Thank you, sir. Whitey Ford sings, Whitey Ford's House of Pain is the latest album. Let me do all the things my manager will slap me later for if I don't.
Starting point is 02:22:22 OG Everlast, you can find me on Instagram. That's the only one i really do but i'm on the facebook and all that with all the tours and all that but if you want to see what i talk about or what i do it's og everlast on instagram um i got joe started on instagram by the way that's 100 and and he's kicking my ass all over he's got like 18 million followers i got like 98 000 We'll get you more today. I always do.
Starting point is 02:22:47 No, always. That's another. Your people always come and are always beautiful folks. I listen to you. The reason why I'm on Instagram is 100% because of you. But the folks that always come after a podcast are always like fine folks and are enthusiastic. That's awesome to hear. I think we tapped into a river of cool
Starting point is 02:23:06 people i think they're out there i think you put it out there and people respond in turn and they realize that a lot of a lot of the shittiest behavior that we all exhibit is because we're around shitty behavior if we make an agreement to be nice to each other we can change everything i'm working on it we are i'm a dick all of us are you're a dick you're a man and you're irish i'm a dick yeah i'm a guy i'm looking for a quick excuse to be one if you want to be an ass yeah maybe but you know in all the years that i've known you you're a very in very introspective guy man you look at yourself you know when people make mistakes they look at themselves like you're you're a guy who looks at everything man you look at yourself you know when people make mistakes they look at themselves like you're you're a guy who looks at everything man you look at yourself you look at other people
Starting point is 02:23:48 it's nice to be afforded the time and luxuries to do such things too let's acknowledge that some people hey man motherfuckers like some people can barely look up from the grind man and it's a blessing to be able to like have that those moments of like hey whatever it is joe rogan in the fucking brush you know stalking an elk. That's where he gets his moment. Or whatever, me driving fucking Pacific Coast Highway, listening to a beat, trying to fucking come up with an idea. You know what I mean? That's a luxury.
Starting point is 02:24:16 Even though it's our work, you might be thinking of a joke out there while you're fucking. You know what I mean? No, we're super lucky, for sure. Well said. That's so important to acknowledge for everybody. And we didn't used to be and that's that's the grind you know and we're all okay we're all okay we just got to figure our way through our own individual maze the problem is in comparison right that's a big part of the problem i'm totally paraphrasing but there's like definitely a famous phrase where it's like comparison is the death of
Starting point is 02:24:43 joy and i think we've even talked about it. I'm having deja vu, so it might have been on here that we talked about that. I'm a repetitive fuck. And I say a lot of the same shit over and over again. That's a Thomas Jefferson quote, correct? Comparison is the thief of joy. Thief of joy. I think we have talked about it.
Starting point is 02:24:58 It's one of my favorites. Because my deja vu is in high gear right now. It's one of my favorite quotes because it just makes you realize this is something you can't even control. you're concentrating on also in control i feel like it's like there's this everybody's not entitled to the luxury that we're talking about so it's like it's you got to be thankful for it on an extra high level because it seems like we're in this twisted thought age where it's like everybody thinks they deserve that and i don't even feel like i deserve it i'm lucky i'm a fortunate fucking man you know i mean i i sing songs i always compare it to like this like you know when you talk you know when like people talk about
Starting point is 02:25:33 old music whatever whatever i'm like whatever happens if the lights go out and all the power goes out i can go from fucking little fucking prefecture to prefecture and play a little song for you and get a meal for me and my family that's how i equate it like it's it's a trade you know i mean and it and it's it's an imbalanced society that gives that has i mean i i've met teachers that i feel like should be making way more fucking money than me man like on real levels that i that i've seen do things for kids on like you know like my school has a mixture like you know kids that go there because they live there and then there's a lot of people trying to go to the school because it's very on like you know like my school has a mixture like you know kids that go there because they live there and then there's a lot of people trying to go to the school because it's very
Starting point is 02:26:08 nice school but you know so there's imbalances and these i've seen teachers like come out their own pockets and do things for you know people that was like wow man that's you know i mean i like to think i do nice things and i think i do but I'm saying it's like when I see it on a level where it's like grassroots, ground level, it's impactful to me. Yeah. When you think about teachers, that's the one. That's the heartstring puller. How much teachers make? You hear about it?
Starting point is 02:26:36 They should be rock stars. How do you? You're taking care of our babies. You're teaching our babies, and you hear about the bad ones. You hear about the mean teachers that fuck with a kid's head yeah they don't realize it they don't realize what they're doing to the kid like some people are just angry they're just angry and mean it comes out when they're teaching and if your teacher gets stuck or your kid rather if your kid gets stuck with one of those teachers like that can have a devastating impact on the kid's life.
Starting point is 02:27:06 It sucks. We're experiencing something like that, but not on a very minor level of the way the school, we just found out yesterday what teachers our kids have. There's the whole cultural parent circle of knowing which teachers you want and which ones you don't. You know what I mean? So it's like, I'm not going to go into whether we got what we wanted or not, but it's like the fucking drama behind it. It's hilarity to me.
Starting point is 02:27:34 It's like, it's such a, it's such a, like, whoa, like, you know, is there abuse going on or what? You know, when teachers are a little more strict than the others. In my day, my parents would have said, like, that's the teacher the teacher we want nowadays it's almost like the opposite yeah you know i mean now in old days my mom would be like that's the stricter teacher yeah put him in that class put him in that class because that's the one that's not going to take any shit and that's the one that's going to get you know to make sure he knows people aren't going to take shit from him and like you know what i mean and that's i i understand that mentality. Nowadays, it's almost the flip. Like, oh, that teacher's like, she's just so abrasive.
Starting point is 02:28:10 Too demanding. It's like, well, what does she do? Well, she raised her voice to the kid. What was the kid doing? He was fucking losing his mind in class. So the fucking teacher raised their voice or something. I'm just giving a general example here, but it's hilarious. Well, I was in Florida.
Starting point is 02:28:23 We got paddled. We got paddled at school. I got in a fight with a kid named Preston Banks. We duked it out. You got paddled. I was like, fuck. I lived there from 11 to 13, so somewhere in that range. They fucking whacked me in the ass with a paddle.
Starting point is 02:28:38 Where was this? Florida. Florida. Yeah. Yeah, Florida, they used to be allowed to paddle you. This dude had a paddle, like an actual wooden paddle. And me and this kid got... This is what I remember thinking, even though I was probably like 11 or 12 or whatever I was.
Starting point is 02:28:53 When I got in a fight with this kid, I realized this kid had been like badly burned when he was young. And we were in school together, and he was like missing part of his ear. And his neck was all fucked all up and i was thinking like wow this guy like he's not doing so well like this is it made me realize like we got into this little scrap over nothing because he just he wasn't doing so well and i didn't realize that until i was in the principal's office with them in the fight like we couldn't fight in front of the principal that was the authority figure we were both like subdued but i was realizing when i was around this guy i'm like this isn't a mean guy he's a sad guy like he's a guy that just didn't get any love and he feels like he got ripped off
Starting point is 02:29:33 by life because he got burned when he was a little kid for sure and it made me think like it changed the way i looked at people with the one little argument and fight with one kid and then getting paddled. Getting paddled just cemented it. Like, ow! Put the stamp on it. I don't agree with it. You know, and the guy didn't hurt me. He didn't try to hurt me.
Starting point is 02:29:55 He didn't try to hurt the other dude either. But he definitely paddled us. It used to be a legal thing. Put a sting on it, man. You know what I mean? That's what we grew up with. I got spanked. But is that good?
Starting point is 02:30:09 I think there's appropriate time and place. I really do. For girls? I don't know about that. That's different because I have two girls and I've never spanked my kids. I don't think I spanked my son. I've threatened to. I don't think I spanked my son. I've threatened to, but I've never had to actually commit and do it.
Starting point is 02:30:25 So I don't know. Yeah, no, it seems like it might not be the right. And even with a boy, I'm talking about that. Physical justice for me would be a rare thing. Let me give you an example of when, like a time in my life when I definitely deserve physical justice and got it. My father, you know know i was using guns when i was very young we'd go out and shoot and like not hunt necessarily but he'd take us out and shoot in the mountains out in the mangelis forest back in the day and like fucking i had
Starting point is 02:30:55 very good gun education and understanding of guns and one time when they were away i fucked around with his like pump shotgun and fucking accidentally fucking loaded it and fucking bang a shot into the wall all right this was an apartment too this wasn't a house this was in an apartment building now it wasn't a wall connecting to another apartment but but still but the possibilities that you know i mean when they came home uh uh a few hours later that apartment outside was surrounded by police, like with guns, like they didn't know what happened. The neighbors all called cops.
Starting point is 02:31:28 They heard a shotgun. So after they all settled it down, I got my ass fucking kicked that night by my father. You know what I mean? And, you know, some people nowadays would say, that's fucking rough. But no,
Starting point is 02:31:43 I fucking could have fucking killed a human being easily i just you need to sometimes know like okay this is because what you just did could have wound you up in fucking the penitentiary for the rest of your life so an ass kicking doesn't seem as extreme as you think when you put it in the balance of that. So when you're getting to a level of that, I think, especially for a boy, I don't know if a girl was going that wild, I would encourage the mom to throw the beating. I mean, a dad can't throw that beating.
Starting point is 02:32:16 It'd be a little rough. But I think there's a time and a place where like, hey, if you're going to stop, you got to let them know, this will be the rest of your life if you keep down this path. It's got to be that extreme to me for it to be a beating nowadays. When I was young, a beating could come from talking back. Right.
Starting point is 02:32:34 At least a smack in the face. Yeah. Well, that's a shoe. Just a little. If it was mom. After 13, mom stopped using hands because I you know, I had outgrown her. My mom was little. My mom was little.
Starting point is 02:32:48 My mom was a little woman, like 4'11", 5' tops. So she was throwing shit? Oh, yeah. So after a while, it was like, it went from the hands to, like, stirring spoons and shit. And then once those started breaking, it became shoes and, like, you know, whatever else. Broomstick. And then it became, like, wait until your fucking father gets home. Those started breaking. It became shoes and whatever else, a broomstick. And then it became like, wait till your fucking father gets home.
Starting point is 02:33:12 My mom might have gently smacked me upside the head. Gently. Never a real wound. No, my mom was a Brooklyn lady. She might have been like, what are you doing, stupid? But I never got clipped. I never got dropped. Mom's tried to fuck me. You never's wasn't playing. I never got clipped. I never got dropped. Mom's tried to fucking. You never dropped me, ma.
Starting point is 02:33:27 I remember being like nine or ten and mom's chasing me down the block. No. Catching me. No. And fucking tackling me, dude.
Starting point is 02:33:35 Like dead ass. You get beat up in front of your friends. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's the worst. Happens. It has to be the worst. It happened.
Starting point is 02:33:44 My mom was not chasing me. She'd be like, you're coming, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's the worst. It has to be the worst. It happened. My mom was not chasing me. She'd be like, you're coming home eventually, dummy. My mom wasn't. I mean, she wasn't having that. No, a word? Oh, yeah. My mom would have never chased me. She would be like, I'm not playing your games.
Starting point is 02:33:59 She was little, but she was fast. That's crazy that she caught you. Beat your ass in front of your friends. It's so rough. When you're a young boy and you're trying to be cool, it's like the most embarrassing. Like any day you could just trip on your own dick and fall face into a fence like a fucking asshole. You're just so goofy. I think it actually made some of my friends at the time understand me a little bit differently, dude.
Starting point is 02:34:21 Like, oh, wow, dude. All right. Yeah, for sure sure we get you now we understand kind of your whole thing like you're steve like you're yeah you guys are nuts yeah for sure but aren't you like when you think of yourself as like a musician and an artist like you're so fortunate it's gonna sound weird but you're so fortunate to come from a chaotic upbringing i feel like everyone who i know that comes from some sort of a chaotic upbringing has a different kind of horsepower to their shit. All my favorite people that I like to listen to and watch, they all had some real fucked up moments and struggles and chaos and madness.
Starting point is 02:35:03 You don't get what you put out without that that's like the root of it all that's the seed that causes it all to grow i mean it's similar to a joke a song you're trying to find it depends on what you know what angle you take from it i like to call it the highest common denominator like that i'm trying to find is like the the the highest level thing we can all connect on you know i mean not the basis most lowest level or common denominator i'm trying to find the what kind of elevated level can i speak to you on even if it's about fuckery can i raise the level of speaking about it and telling a tale about it without it you know being you know again the most base and and and easiest lowest hanging fruit yeah you know that's the same thing i think with the joke you're trying to find there's no real new like you're just finding
Starting point is 02:36:04 new angles on funny shit you know what i mean like the things are new is when things are newly invented or when they're new events like it has to be like a significant event or a new invention then then things open up new pathways other than that like you're talking about relationships you're doing a variation of exactly a take on it that everybody's had who's had a long life and been in relationships especially larry king holla at your boy going on number eight was that number seven they just left eighth eighth divorce seventh wife i think he remarried one of them damn like that you know larry king's still alive you didn't know oh roy wood yeah roy wood
Starting point is 02:36:48 roy and i were looking at pictures of uh larry king i really didn't know his wife i'm impressed that he's still alive divorce at 85 fucking more power to him get busy if you got the money to get divorced at 85 go for it they're shooting him up with steroids and cocaine and they're just gonna start viagra just having gals come over to the place he's over at arts delhi just holding court can you imagine if uh over the last like year of his life he just banks an unprecedented volume of internet porn and just releases it all in one blast larry king fucks he just called it dot called yes King sex tapes yeah King yeah just banging it out and just yeah that's how he's gonna get a lot of patreon you get so much money if you really just want money now's the time to act. That's wild.
Starting point is 02:37:46 Poor Larry. He doesn't seem like he has good posture. Like, that's not good. When you're an older fella and you like that good posture. Does he have the curve? Yeah, he's got that curve. The curve. He was a very nice guy.
Starting point is 02:38:01 I was on his show twice. I was on his show twice for Fear Factor. He's always very nice guy. I was on his show twice. I was on his show twice for Fear Factor. So he was very nice. Very friendly guy. You kind of got to be when you do that for a living. And every night you're talking to a person. You got to be good at that shit. You can't be like me.
Starting point is 02:38:15 I'd be like, fuck. Didn't he go to jail? Isn't there a Larry King? We need to get a Larry King mugshot. Yeah. Get that Larry King mugshot. Order that shit up. Go to take the phone. Find the phone of Larry King mugshot. get the larry king mugshot order that shit up go to take the
Starting point is 02:38:25 larry king mugshot how do we not have larry king we just decided to get pablo hey dude you need to get the mugshot of the dude who's still on cnn who got found out like in central park in new york like with meth and like a like makeshift noose around his dick his name was oh what the fuck what's his name how do we know the english dude with the glasses uh dude with the glasses uh uh cnn richard um richard richard come on dude you're helping come on help me come on he's ordering up a large richard print richard richard oh man you know as soon as you see his face you're like oh that guy richard quest Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Oh, man. You'd know his face. As soon as you see his face, you're going to be like, oh, that guy.
Starting point is 02:39:08 Richard Quest. Richard Quest. Who's Richard Quest? He's the guy I'm talking about. I don't know who he is. Oh, dude. If you see his face, you'll be like, oh, yeah. He's like the English guy on CNN.
Starting point is 02:39:19 Can I see him? He got caught in Central Park with meth and some sort of noose or something around his dick. As far as I remember reading, we were clowning it for a while. If you're a single gay guy, isn't that what you're supposed to do? I don't know. You're supposed to have meth around your dick. That's part of the thing. Is this not on the internet?
Starting point is 02:39:40 Am I making this up? I was looking for a mugshot. There's no mugshot, but here's an explanation from Huffington Post. Oh, there's an explanation? Okay, there's an explanation. I'm not making this up, right? This wasn't like a drug-induced hallucination or something, right? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:39:55 How hilarious is the way they put this? CNN personality Richard Quest was busted in Central Park early yesterday with some drugs in his pocket and a rope around his neck that was tied to his genitals. No big deal. And a sex toy in his pocket and a rope around his neck that was tied to his genitals. No big deal. And a sex toy in his boot. Law enforcement officials said, sources said, Quest was initially busted for loitering. It really wasn't about that. Aside from the oddly configured rope, the search also turned up a sex toy inside of his boot.
Starting point is 02:40:24 That means his asshole. And a small bag of methamphetamine in his left jacket pocket. It wasn't immediately clear what the rope was for. That's the mugshot you need. But show him a picture so he'll know who I'm talking about. Send me that. I'm going to talk about that on stage from now on. Send me that.
Starting point is 02:40:46 That guy, dude. You don't know that guy? He's all over the fucking CNN. I do not know that guy. Can you send me that article that we just sent into my... Oh, I hope it provides you something beautiful. There's something there. There's something there.
Starting point is 02:41:00 I hope it provides you something beautiful. This is the best part about the article. It was not clear. It was not immediately clear what the rope was for. And I'm like, let me help. This is the best part about the article. It was not clear. It was not immediately clear what the rope was for. And I'm like, let me help. Let me help you out.
Starting point is 02:41:11 Was it tied around his neck and his dick? Well, I don't know. I'm in Colombo. I knew there was a newsletter. But I see a connection. The pocket notice,
Starting point is 02:41:21 Mr. Quest, at 64th Street and West Drive at about three, oh, the police noticed Mr. Quest at 64th Street and West Drive at about 3. Oh, the police noticed Mr. Quest at 64th Street and West Drive at about 3.40 a.m., the official said. As he was being escorted out, he volunteered, in quotes, I have meth in my pocket. According to an official briefed on the case, the police searched him and recovered a small amount of methamphetamine in a Ziploc bag and a rope
Starting point is 02:41:47 around his dick and his neck. And his dick is between his boot. More importantly, there's a lot of dudes who do meth. And you know what they do? They keep it together! And they stay on the farm! I wonder what kind of boots he had on. There's a snake in my boot!
Starting point is 02:42:03 No, in his boot. No, in his boot. That means in his asshole. Is this an English paper? No, this is New York. It was Central Park. I think they mean in his asshole. I don't think they mean in his asshole. I think they mean in his boot. I think they mean in his asshole.
Starting point is 02:42:15 In his ass? Wow. That's a whole new dimension. That's your trunk, bro. They wouldn't call it his boot. Do you know what English? No, in England. But it's like, isn't this the New York Times?
Starting point is 02:42:23 Yes, they're using proper British English that's America it's New York Times it's called boots a boot in America let's go with the better angle on it
Starting point is 02:42:31 that day it was in his ass that's funny that's the better New York Post not the New York Times it was in his asshole that's why they said
Starting point is 02:42:37 his boot his boot his boot is it's proper British for like if you watch like that is factual that is factual
Starting point is 02:42:44 Jeremy Clarkson and fucking Richard Hammonds and James May. They're a truck is the best the boot. Yes, it's in his asshole. Wow, got a sex toy in his asshole. Hey, no judgment brought a whole new like fucking like dimension to that. No judgment.
Starting point is 02:43:01 Wow. It's okay. It's fine. It's fine. Yes, sir. Even if he didn't get caught with that in his asshole, he's still doing meth and talking to cops. With a rope around his dick and neck. Yeah, that part too. I was going to get to that.
Starting point is 02:43:22 As if it was so crazy If he had a fucking Rubber dick in his ass Like wait what I'm finding that shit Hold on I'll get you that mug shot I'm finding it I get meth
Starting point is 02:43:33 Who doesn't like a little meth Every now and then Roper had his dick in balls Whatever whatever You got dismissed All charges were dismissed Thank god for America White privilege. White privilege.
Starting point is 02:43:55 Oh, shit. Imagine a dude as black as Wesley Snipes with dreadlocks. They catch you with a rope around your dick and neck with a fat mess in your pocket bro You're gonna die in jail Okay yeah You're gonna die Yeah I think so 100% Dismissed
Starting point is 02:44:16 You had meth And a rope Connecting your neck And cock And probably a sex toy in your ass. At the very least, I was going to say
Starting point is 02:44:32 in his shoe, which is weird enough. It might even be weirder. But let's not jump to conclusions. That might just be a confusing interpretation of the American version of boot and them saying boot means butt. Maybe they think shoe means ass. It was with another man.
Starting point is 02:44:46 Oh. Maybe he has a boot. Nobody's got a fucking rubber dick in their boot. That's outrageous. That would make your boot all fucking uncomfortable.
Starting point is 02:44:55 Why wouldn't you just put it in your pocket? It's in his ass, bro. Let's just run with that. Because he had meth in his pocket. That's why. No more Google search.
Starting point is 02:45:03 Shut off all the computers. Spread misinformation Like I'm sure It was just an issue Whatever whatever And you don't ever Volunteer that you have drugs Let them find the drugs
Starting point is 02:45:14 Yeah let them find the drugs Unless you want to Fuck the cops I have a quick Good one on that level On that level Let's get this shit on First time I went to Japan
Starting point is 02:45:22 With House of Pain What happened? We were on You know it was one of pain what happened we were on you know it was one of them things where we were touring from tour to tour i would go home and literally take one set of clothes out of a bag throw it in another bag and leave so we got to japan and on this particular trip i brought my girlfriend at the time and i think danny did and lethal brought his own homie or whatever but all we brought a bunch of guests and everybody gets through customs and
Starting point is 02:45:45 as i'm getting through customs the guy reaches into this one jacket i have and he pulls his hand out and there's this little nugget of bud and he's like what is that and i was like well can you speak english because he said it in japanese so i said okay okay what is that i was like my brain just was like well fuck man just it looks like weed i said it looks like weed you know i just fucking owned it whatever they went and got this little tester put some shit in instead of it turns blue it's weed i was like it's weed let's just fucking save a little trouble as we meanwhile everybody else had gotten through they brought everybody else back in right fucking gave them the fucking finger like i have like my my
Starting point is 02:46:26 lady everything at the time everybody got the strip search they never strip searched me they searched everything i had all my bags everything right they tested one nugget weed whatever i end up after several hours the record label paid off whatever they had to pay off we got into the country and we're able to do our tour now the point of the story is everybody's fucking hating my guts the whole fucking bunch of them we get to the hotel i'm unpacking my bag trying to figure out how the whole fucking thing happened i'm looking at the jacket and i reach into the pocket that was there's nothing in there i was like fuck that's crazy i reach into the other pocket of the jacket i pulled out a fucking ounce of fucking weed they never looked in the other pocket of the jacket a fucking ounce of weed i shit you know what you were without even knowing
Starting point is 02:47:12 you were doing it you were like sending a small mule to get busted so that the big ones can sneak around the side i must have been rolling a joint somewhere at the last tour and like had a nug left over and just throwing it in the pocket not thinking about it on one side. The cartel does that. But if they would have found that other one first I'd be in jail
Starting point is 02:47:29 and motherfucking in Japan for a long time. Forever and ever. But I got in I called the whole I called everybody that smoked in the crew
Starting point is 02:47:37 down to the room after that and I was like yo check it out man I really didn't mean this to happen but I probably had more good ass fucking weed in Japan than anybody at the time.
Starting point is 02:47:48 You know what's incredible? Because all they had was hash and shit like that. Stop and think of that moment. That moment. If they didn't go in that one pocket and they went in the other pocket first and they found that giant bag of weed, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Nope. We probably wouldn't. Nope.
Starting point is 02:48:02 I don't think so. That's a lot of weed. Who knows, though? In Japan, it would have been. It would that's a lot of weed who knows though in japan it would have been it would took a lot of money to get me out of that regardless a lot instead of i think it cost them like a thousand bucks and they're like you know which was like ten thousand or something yen or a hundred thousand post put your lights on no this was in house paint this was like when the only story like it was like Paul McCartney is banned for life because he got caught with some weed. For life? I don't know if it still exists, but there was a point where he was banned for life because he got caught with weed over there.
Starting point is 02:48:38 Wow. Well, it used to be in Nevada you get sent to jail for life if you had weed, and now it's legal there. Yeah. There's a bunch of dudes looking out those barred windows. Yeah, something's got to be done about that. That ain't working. Yeah, that's the problem. That's the number one problem.
Starting point is 02:48:53 That's the number one problem with laws against things like weed. As long as you can buy some whiskey. It's part of the number one problem. A lot of it, too, is a lot of these prisons are privatized, and they don't want to let a lot of these guys go, man. A lot of these guys get money for the amount of fucking people in their prisons i got a solution those private prison dudes just start selling weed right that's a cleaner way to live your life man don't be a goddamn slave owner you know
Starting point is 02:49:20 there's this whole like urban legend that, I mean, is very believable about this letter that went around like a bunch of people in the hip hop music industry got not, I don't know, maybe it was within the last decade where they described like this guy claimed to be a member of the elite class of like executives of the music business in there in the mid 90s and whatnot and there was a time when the private prison industry kind of came and got involved and got a lot of these people to invest and then kind of help direct like things like rap music and then if you remember there used to be like public i don't know if you're how big of you a fan of music you were at the time ex-clans and public enemies there was all these proactive like you know counters to like the party drug dealer guys or whatever you know there was there was there was actually another side to it that existed and was successful and flourished you know amongst it you know and that disappeared but and like there this letter that went around was like kind of claiming this guy was part of
Starting point is 02:50:23 this thing and he left the meeting. When these guys. It was like a whole conspiracy thing. But it's like totally believable. That these guys would direct a music. And a fucking media. In a certain direction. To encourage fucking basically.
Starting point is 02:50:36 A cycle of fucking prison. Because if you look at rap music. If you look at rap music. And what happened from the 90s till now. There is no conscious music anymore there's none it's um it's again it's some people will tell you it's fucking god's honest truth somebody tell you it's the wildest speculation in the world but you can dig it up easily music kanye has some conscious music for sure but like what like jesus walks um that was
Starting point is 02:51:00 written by a guy named uh uh rhyme fest i think is his name i think is the guy from chicago one of his partners from chicago wrote that song you know i mean what you gotta remember these guys are like kanye's a producer and i'm not saying he doesn't write but what i'm saying is a lot of you know he's also like he will take a song and make the song because he's a producer conscious a lot of people do i'm not just saying kanye is like like a fraud or anything i'm just saying like as a producer like people drake doesn't write all his records like like there's a different era of rap and shit like that going on from when i was young when i was young it was pretty much 90 if you couldn't call yourself an mc or a rapper if you didn't write your own shit there were cats that didn't do it
Starting point is 02:51:38 it's always been there there's always been the ghost writing scene but if you wanted to walk in a room and hold down any kind of respect with people you they had to know you wrote your rhymes you know what i mean that's the same in comedy yeah so it's like you know and it's not saying like though you're not a fraud you're just a different kind of entertainer you know what i mean as far as i'm concerned i don't shit on it you know i mean there's a lot of drake records i like there's a lot of other shit i like you know what i mean that's i know those guys didn't write those records because i can look at the writer's credit and see 20 writers credits on it so but i come from the era of, like, you know, you got to write your shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:52:09 I think some people feel the value of collaboration, which is a legitimate thing. And if your ego is good enough where you can, like, work with, like, Paul Mooney worked with Pryor. You know, Pryor is the greatest of all time, in my opinion. And he worked with Mooney. Mooney helped him a lot you know and richard jenny worked with chris rock and you know and others as well you know like this it's not like some of the greatest of all time i've had people that work with them paul mooney is god that's he's he's the greatest he's like he's he's one of my most important uh important influencers
Starting point is 02:52:41 for sure when i when i was at the comedy store because he was like the first guy that I felt like was a real, I was scared of him, man. Because I knew he worked for Pryor. I knew he was like, he's connected to royalty. And he'd be around
Starting point is 02:52:52 the comedy store and I'd just be this fucking young dork. It's still sharp as a knife, man. Oh, yeah. It's still right there. This is when I was in my 20s. And he laughed one time.
Starting point is 02:53:02 I was on stage in front of like 10 people and I was doing my act. And I heard him in the back of the room, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And then he came up to me afterwards and he said that you're a funny motherfucker. He goes, you did that shit, like it was a sold out room.
Starting point is 02:53:17 He goes, you're a real comic. And I was like, wow. Like Paul Mooney said that to me because I remember he was connected. He's connected to the fucking, the man. He was connected to the fucking man. He was connected to Pryor. He was made. Like all those,
Starting point is 02:53:28 the contribution, I mean, I guess maybe it's different in hip hop. But in stand-up, it's similar. There's guys like Bill Burr who writes everything he says. Everything he says is coming from a Bill Burr place of mind. He's not contributing with anybody. He's not collaborating. is coming from a Bill Burr place of mind. He's not contributing with anybody. He's not collaborating.
Starting point is 02:53:47 He's just being Bill Burr. Joey Diaz, same thing. Everything that guy says is coming out of his head. There's something extra to that. It's not better or worse. It's just like you're going to it's like difference between you go into a restaurant and everything's homemade it might be the same as if everything wasn't homemade in terms of like the way it tastes but not the way it feels right it feels different like a guy like you writes your own shit like when
Starting point is 02:54:19 you write your own shit and you play your own songs it's like yeah i'm getting a piece of you i'm getting a little piece of you comes out of your art and that's that own songs, it's like I'm getting a piece of you. I'm getting a little piece of you that comes out of your art. That's the difference. It's not like there's anything wrong with collaboration. Collaboration is, look, if you look at Chris Rock's stuff,
Starting point is 02:54:34 it's arguably some of the greatest work of all time in terms of the finished product of stand-up comedy, Bigger and Blacker. It's one of the greatest comedy specials in the history of the world. Period.
Starting point is 02:54:44 End of discussion. Anybody that argues with you is an asshole. So that came out of collaborative efforts. There's nothing wrong with that. Obviously, it made something amazing. And many other bits. And many other things that a lot of great comics have done. But it is different, man.
Starting point is 02:55:00 It's different. You know? But we're all, like, in some way connected to each other and collaborating with each other whether we like it or not it's not like the the how many stages into the game are they going to collaborate with you are they going to be there for the final product or are they just going to be influences all along the way in your artistic journey yeah i mean a lot of words even the most even the thing that i would consider that i wrote completely by myself if you want if you get down to the next level it's like there's 25,000
Starting point is 02:55:35 things that have influenced why i think that way or feel that way for sure you know i mean so that's determinism that's why that's that the whole angle of like, there's really nothing new. It's all about the angle. And I liken it to like when I watched to I like watching the old Dogtown, like documentaries, Dogtown and the Z-Boys and shit. And it's like the whole approach to skating was like everybody can do that, but it's not the style you do it in. You know, I mean, that's what it really starts coming down to. There's not me again. If there's no brand new invention or brand new event. Right.
Starting point is 02:56:14 We're rehashing experiences that have been happening since the dawn of time. And you're just finding a new style and a new angle to dress it up in that makes people feel like it's new sure sorrow romance love anger all those things yeah you're breaking the boredom of the way it's been thought of before in a new way and and that's what becomes appealing to people but god damn when someone hits it and they do get through with something that's a new way of describing some shit we can all relate to, it makes you feel so good. Music makes you feel good in a way that comedy never can. Comedy makes you laugh and it makes you have a good time together.
Starting point is 02:56:54 We're all in a room laughing, hooting it up. But music, when you're by yourself, man, it's just you and that music. And you get goosebumps. You can lift more weights. You run faster. it fires you up man if i'm running hills and i'm listening to music i honestly feel like i'm cheating i feel like i'm cheating because i feel like i take this like burst of like artificial energy it's not dependent upon my discipline or drive it's not artificial though no it's not but i didn't make
Starting point is 02:57:22 it yeah no but again see i don't know if it's some grass is greener shit, and I don't even know if that's the proper phrase, but just when I look at it as an art form, that comparison when you're like, music is this, I'm like, comedy is so much more precious because you work it to that point. Even if you tell an amazing joke that lives in me and I fucking love it so much, I take it and tell it to him.
Starting point is 02:57:50 For me, the minute I tell it to him, it ends. It's like that's the end of that joke for me. You know what I mean? So it's like there's a preciousness to that. It's like a fucking, to me, there's a finite, you're creating an art that's like gonna it's like almost like a dude who really works creates art just to fucking watch it like yeah yep i did it like some japanese lantern that's gonna just go up in flames and fucking disappear it's like
Starting point is 02:58:17 there's a beauty in that that to me is far different and far more, again, precious because life is shorter. You have to watch it end. That's my point. You have to watch an idea of yours come to a finite end. Whereas when an idea of mine comes to a finite end and it's good and it connects, I can repeat it over and over and over and people accept that. repeated over and over and over and people accept that yeah you know so it's like it's just but to me it's just the preciousness of it if you understand what i'm getting at is like wow that was all that work for that for the it's like the olymp it's almost like the olympic athlete training his old life like that's how each joke almost is when you write it when i the way i and
Starting point is 02:59:02 i watched a lot of economy i'm fucking i'm all over all y'all motherfuckers shit on the ones they post specials bill all those dudes i'm tony i'm into all this shit so it's like i'm really a fan of comedy and it's just amazing to me like i said the finite this stuff it is is is precious that's an interesting way of putting it i never really thought about that way i thought about it in the way that like you have to write new stuff but i never thought about it in the way that like the first time that someone hears it that's the only time they really hear it every every time after that they know what's coming yeah they never see it the same way you know
Starting point is 02:59:38 it's like again like an olympic athlete you're working that joke you're working that joke out and you're where the joke's getting better and it's like okay it's like an Olympic athlete. You're working that joke. You're working that joke out. And the joke's getting better. And it's like, okay, it's a bronze medal joke right now. And it's a silver medal joke. If you ever get into that gold medal joke, and then you drop it where it's supposed to be, in that place and time of the special or the thing that everybody sees, then it's done. You know what's interesting now is there's a lot of comedy nerds. They want to watch the process.
Starting point is 03:00:03 So they watch you flip punchlines around, flip things around. And they go, hey, you did that thing different now. I go, yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to do it right. That would be amazing to me if I had the time to just sit and watch you guys work out. Go to the comedy club every night or whatever. These two ladies from Arizona, and they came down to the store. They travel around the world. They went to see Ari in Europe or Iceland or some shit.
Starting point is 03:00:24 But they're comedy nerds. And they come to watch. And they'll see you two months ago. And then they come see you again. I had conversations with them. And they're like, yeah, I like how you switched that up. You put that there. I'm like, yeah, I'm trying to figure out where to put it.
Starting point is 03:00:37 I don't know where that goes. Part of my point is there's a journey there. Until you get to that point where it's dropped dropped in that special or thing that's been seen across you know a broad spectrum it is a journey and they know that because they're fans of the comedy so they know this thing's that thing's gonna that thing's gonna build into something you know that's i would love again that's that sounds like a fucking amazing time to me well it's also like if you're a fan of music, it's hard to go watch people practice. It's different. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:06 Because you're practicing in front of motherfuckers and they're reacting. I'm practicing what we do. We call it shedding. Yeah. Because we're locked in a fucking room doing it by ourselves. We ain't going to do it in front of you until we got that shit right. Right. You know?
Starting point is 03:01:20 Yeah. We can't do that. We have to do it in front of people. But the weird thing about it is it's like they can come and see it. They can see do that. We have to do it in front of people. But the weird thing about it is they can come and see it. They can see you practice. People can't see you practice, really. It's not practice. You're just fucking performing.
Starting point is 03:01:35 It's performance art. Yeah, for sure. So it's like you're working it out. You have the concept, but it has to be worked out. It has to be walked to a destination so to speak you know i mean the other part of it is though there's so many more people doing music than there are doing comedy like the waters are like less populated what do you think like the numbers for sure right oh absolutely because way more great bands and there are great
Starting point is 03:02:01 comedians no there's not a lot of great bands. There's a lot of fucking artists. Like, there's not a lot of new great bands. Name a couple. New great bands. Oh, yeah, okay. I thought we were talking about, like, what's, you know, the newest. I mean, overall, like, people are active currently. Yeah. Dude, Rolling Stones are still on tour. What the fuck is happening? They're just waiting for someone to explode.
Starting point is 03:02:20 The funny thing was, I think I went to their farewell tour in, like, fucking 85 or something like that, dude. load the funny thing was i think i went to their farewell tour and like fucking 85 god bless him and everybody back then was saying isn't it amazing they're still touring amazing aerosmith too same deal they were probably in their 50s then you know now what they're like 70s 80s dude david lee roth looks healthy as as fuck. It was funny when you had him in your lyrics. Oh, yeah, yeah. Dude, he's healthy as fuck, man. That guy has no connection to the outside world.
Starting point is 03:02:53 He has a lady he uses. The lady has a phone. She tells David where he should go and when he should meet you. And David goes there. And David doesn't bring a phone. I don't even know if he had a wallet. I paid for dinner. I'm like, this guy, he's not connected at all to the outside world. He doesn't bring a phone i don't even know if he had a wallet i paid for dinner i'm like this guy's he's not connected at all to the other world he doesn't give a fuck smiles at
Starting point is 03:03:08 everybody couldn't be friendlier he just knows his vibration he figured it out and he sticks with it can't hate he's hilarious man he's a fascinating cat that david lee roth you know he lived in japan for like a year and learned kendo, which is the art of sword fighting. He trained under a Japanese master. He brought his dog, rented an apartment, got a fucking apartment in Tokyo, and just every day went to kendo practice. He got whacked with bamboo swords.
Starting point is 03:03:38 One of my drummers, the guy, he's in Fish. He's actually the band Fishbone. He's one of the namesakes. And he's into all that, heavy jujitsu but like martial arts but he's weapons trained like a lot of people are into it how many people move to japan to train with a japanese kendo master for a fucking year he didn't even speak japanese he brings his dog to the other side of the planet to learn sword fighting for a year. And he's David Lee Roth. Did he learn Japanese, though?
Starting point is 03:04:11 Oh, he learned a lot of shit, yeah. He can speak like a broken version, I'm sure, of Japanese. But I bet his kendo is pretty badass. I don't want to sword fight him. He really went for it, you know. He trained martial arts and karate and kickboxing under Benny Hercule. Benny the Jet Hercule. He was like a California legend, a world legend.
Starting point is 03:04:32 In a gym like in Van Nuys, right? Yeah, Van Nuys. When I first came to California, there was two things that I needed to do. I needed to go to the comedy store first and foremost. Number two is I needed to go to the Jet Center. The Jet Center was Benny the Jet's place in Van Nuys. I think I shot my first album cover there. Dude!
Starting point is 03:04:47 Did you really? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. That's crazy. What year? Like 1988. Oh, my God. I wasn't out here yet. That's crazy.
Starting point is 03:04:54 I was just starting comedy. This was the first ever last record with Ice-T. Ice-T had signed me. Wow. That's crazy. To his label. Yeah, I got here too late, man. I got here in 94, and the gym had been so badly damaged by the earthquake
Starting point is 03:05:09 that when it started raining, it was a year after the earthquake, when it started raining, the rain was leaking all throughout the ceiling. The ceiling was a wreck, and they had abandoned the building, and I don't think they ever. They started off another place in North Hollywood, but it wasn't quite the same thing. The Jet Center in Van Nuys was one of those places. No, I'm positive now.
Starting point is 03:05:27 That's where it is. It's like, because it's a boxing ring, and I remember the Jet Center. That's where we shot it. That's how I knew about bangs. That's how I learned about them. Tough dudes, man.
Starting point is 03:05:35 I went there, I was so nervous. Because I came here from New York, and I was still sparring back then. I hadn't decided to stop sparring yet. I just needed something to do, and I was out here doing TV work, and I was training with all these gangbangers man i remember this one dude he had something on his back i don't remember what he what the name of the gang was
Starting point is 03:05:53 let's like flatas or something like that and then it just said fuck the rest on his back and i remember thinking jesus and one of the guys like blinky rodriguez who was a world class world championship level kickboxer he knocked out johnny terrio he was like a like top of the food chain kickboxer he had a son that succumbed to gang violence and so he like worked really i'm sure pretty sure this is a story and he worked really hard to like help the the gang members in the community and bring them in the gym for free and teach them kickboxing and and and show them that they have value and that they get to work out their differences inside the ring like men and not get involved in gang violence and shit like this and
Starting point is 03:06:34 so it was a weird thing because we'd go there and it was like it was like you were taking kick but i'm a fucking kid from the suburbs of boston okay and i'm a comedian and i'm like fucking 26 years old and i'm hanging out with gangbangers in this like hardcore kickboxing gym of one of my uh martial arts idols benny urquidez and another one blinky rodriguez who was another one of my martial arts idols and you know no they didn't know who the fuck i was and i was just in there like training with them and then it went under and i was like if I got this brief glimpse into this place that was in my childhood, like martial arts childhood, that was one of the meccas that I needed to go to. I needed to go to the Jet Center.
Starting point is 03:07:17 But it all went away real quick, like within, I don't know, I don't know how many months after I joined there. The name of the album was Forever Everlasting. That's crazy. It's me in a corner. The name of the album was Forever Everlasting. That's crazy. It's me like in a corner of a, because they had the Everlasting, they had me in a boxing ring. Yeah, that was the Jet Center, we shot that. Benny the Jet was nasty, man. There you go. There it is.
Starting point is 03:07:36 There you go. Wow. That's actually my father. I bought that, bro. That's my father on the upper right there. Dude, I bought that. Guaranteed I bought that CD. 100%. 100% I bought that CD. Yeah, that was all
Starting point is 03:07:48 at the Jet Center, man. Wow. That guy was a legend, man. Benny Urquidez was a beast. He would go to Hawaii and fight in these crazy mixed tournaments where they do judo on you and boxing and all kinds of crazy shit. Those guys were the originators, man. They were the hardcore
Starting point is 03:08:04 second wave after Bruce Lee. God damn. Look at that, you handsome bastard. God damn. Dude, I got like a little Hitler stash or something going on there. I think I was trying to grow it. You look like a quarterback in a movie, like a high school movie. Like Friday Night Lights.
Starting point is 03:08:23 A big burly asshole. I was, I think, 16 right there, man. That shot is taken by a legendary photographer by the name of Glenn Friedman, man. He took many, many of the most iconic shots ever, dude. Shout out to Glenn. You would play a perfect guy in a movie about a quarterback who's an asshole to his girlfriend, but there's another guy in the school, and he's real sensitive, and he he writes poetry and the girl wants to be with him i like want to kick his ass yeah yeah that's you right there bullying yeah listen man it's late as fuck right 20 to
Starting point is 03:08:54 20 to 7 you want to play one more song and get out of here yeah shall we let's do that let's do uh tell everybody um dj mellow please uh give up your credentials and social media. DJ Melody. Is it just DJ Melody? Yeah, DJ Melody on Instagram. And like I said, Beat Junkies, Institute of Sound. Check it out. And all on Instagram, Twitter, all that jazz.
Starting point is 03:09:18 They can find it from there. Yes, sir. Whitey Ford's House of Pain is the album. All these songs are from that. And yeah. We got one more for songs are from that. And, yeah. Here, we got one more for you. One more. Play you out.
Starting point is 03:09:30 All right. You ready? Cold and lonely New York December Girl on everything I remember Every day I got Memphis on my mind I bring cars and I've been calling Girl as hard as I've been calling Girl, it's hard as I've been falling The hearts get broken almost every time And I'm bringing it home to you, baby
Starting point is 03:10:13 Come home I've been living this while around my heart for so long And I'm bringing it home to you, baby Come home Girl, you got the wrong beat around You can't help me break it down Help me break it down Old friends like these are scattered
Starting point is 03:10:43 Back where everything still mattered Sometimes things just never go your way Roost and broke but I'm surviving All these miles that I've been driving Got all my hopes in this old blue Chevrolet I'm bringing it home to you baby, come home I've been building this wall around my heart for so long I'm bringing it home to you, baby, come home Girl, you got the wall, be around
Starting point is 03:11:17 Can you hear me break it down? Break it down! Break it down! Break it down! Break it down! Break it down! Break it down! Break it down! Break it down! Break it down! Break it down!
Starting point is 03:11:34 Break it down! Break it down! Break it down! Break it down! Break it down! Break it down, break it down, break it down Kill me, bring it down Break it down, break it down, break it down Kill me, bring it down Kill me, bring it down
Starting point is 03:11:59 Break it down, break it down, break it down Kill me, bring it down Break it down, down, down! Yeah, I'm gonna bring it down Break it down! And I'm bringing it home to you, baby, come home I've been building this wall around my heart for so long And I'm bringing it home to you, baby, come home Girl, you got the wrong feel around You can't help but break it down To you, baby, come home
Starting point is 03:12:34 Doing this all around my heart for so long And I'm bringing it home to you, baby, come home Girl, you got the wrong feel around And I'm bringing it home to you, baby. Come home, yeah. Girl, you've got to all be around. Can't help but break it down. Down, down, down, down. Can't help but break it down. Down, down, down, down, down. Joe Rogan Experience
Starting point is 03:13:10 Beach Junkies DJ Melody Thank you guys That was awesome Thanks brother It was fun That was a good day It was fun
Starting point is 03:13:19 It was beautiful It was beautiful Good night everybody

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