The Joe Rogan Experience - #1394 - Matt Farah

Episode Date: December 6, 2019

Matt Farah is a car enthusiast and the host of “The Smoking Tire” seen on YouTube and also a podcast available on Spotify.

Three, two, one. I gotta get a picture of that. Matt Farrell, ladies and gentlemen. Joe Rogan. We're going live. Are we? Dude, the interior of your car is fucking disgusting, and I can't believe you like it. Why would you do that when you can get any interior?

You could make it any color. You decided to do, what is it? Bus? It's city bus fabric. City, legitimately? It's actual city bus fabric. Yeah, yeah. If we got it from the city bus supplier.

Is it just like puke resistant or something it's everything resistant uv dirt stain yeah yeah yeah i but does it feel good all right hi everybody hi it's matt farrow i have an old 911 it's called a safari build this guy named lee keen built it and i showed it to joe i brought it here there it is and it's people on the video we're looking at the smoking tire on Instagram. Thank you. And that's my everyday car in LA. You drive that everywhere?

Yeah. It's got big fog lights and bash bars and it's got a lift on it. It's manual too, right? Oh, yeah. In traffic. Yeah, but I don't... I also have a little scooter. So when I need to go fight traffic, I leave it on. Yeah.

You drive a scooter? Yeah. A little Yamaha 125. Oh, Jesus. Bro, you wear a fanny pack I can ride a scooter I mean for your own health No it's the best

I mean look riding motorcycles is dangerous But I think it's a calculated risk The other day My wife and I left the house at the same time We live in Venice and she left in a car And I left on the scooter And like exactly like 40 minutes later she i got off the bike and texted her that i was at my destination in koreatown and she was at her

destination in culver city wow so i was literally like double triple the distance that she had gone so but anyway the city bus fabric is amazing and i fully anticipated that 90 of the people would like it and 10 of the people would find it deeply offensive. I'm surprised that you fell into the offensive. It's disgusting. It's cool, man. It's gross. I mean, yes, it's gross.

It's fun. It's gross, but it's fun that you did that. I mean, I'm not offended. It is fun. And I, you know, here in L.A., a car is kind of like your outfit a little bit. You know, a little bit. Yeah, you your outfit a little bit. A little bit. Yeah, you're showing a little jazz. A little bit.

And I like to, if I'm going to put a message out there of myself in a car, I don't want to be some douchey shitbag in a Porsche. I want to be the guy who's in a pink Porsche with big tires on it and a bus interior. That to me, it says a little more about me than it does about porsche is a weird car right ferrari is 100 douchebag they take themselves very seriously really hard to not be a douchebag in a ferrari although i did see a really interesting one that this guy built in england where he took a dino oh yeah and he put a 400 plus horsepower and modern ferrari engine in it and put like a clear glass over the engine bay and and everything you could take off and bring the car back to stock it was almost the sort of singerization of a dino so the dino uh is one of

the prettiest ferraris ever right but if you car. But if you've ever driven one, they sound great, but they're just slow as dog shit. I mean, they're the V6s. It's the smallest engine Ferrari ever made. Do you know the website for the guy that did it or the YouTube channel? I think the guy, I think his name was David Lee and he built it. See if you can find. He claimed it was an F40 engine, which I don't think was entirely accurate. I think he exaggerated a little bit.

I think it's an engine from like a 360 that has been modified in certain ways. Because an F40 has more than 400 horsepower. Well, it also had turbos. And it's not like you just wouldn't use an F40 engine for that. It would be like using something that's very valuable and not really replaceable for purposes of modification. It doesn't make much sense. When other options are available that could deliver you the same result. Like a 360. What did a 360 have when it came with the Modena?

Like 400 horsepower. Yeah, like around 400. And the Dino's got to be like, what is it, over 2,500 pounds? Maybe. Maybe. They're tiny. They're tiny and they're made of nothing. I like- 2,500 pounds? Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. They're tiny. They're tiny and they're made of nothing. I mean, 2,500 is maybe a good number.

It looks so wild. Yeah. And I've heard that car. That car lives here. Really? Yeah, that car lives in Los Angeles. No way. The black one?

Yeah, yeah. It lives here. I've seen it at car shows. Yeah. That's got to be a half a million dollar car, right? It sounds the business. It's weird because you actually have to, yes, it probably is a half a million dollars would be a very low estimate for that car. It's like 700 You actually have to Yes it probably is A half a million dollars

Would be a very low estimate For that car It's like 700,000 Maybe A really good original Dino Is happening There it is So it's actually

That's not the car Because the car has a hard top Or is it a target It's a target It's a target Oh look how pretty it is It's better with the roof off Look at that picture

With the back end of it Right there Yeah Click on that So what's so interesting About the car is It's almost like a Corvette It's actually

hard to tell it apart from a regular dino if you don't know what you're looking for the things to look for obviously that badge on the left that says like evo something and then the clear engine cover with the big bubble in the middle of the of the engine bonnet has changed yeah by the way that badge can go fuck itself the badge doesn't need to be there yeah the exhaust is a doesn't need to be there. Get that off of there. The exhaust is a little bigger. I like the exhaust. I like the exhaust. That's fine. I wish they had some grip to the tires.

Those are some skinny-ass, bitch-ass tires. Well, look how narrow. I mean, you're talking about a car that, without widening the body, there's only so much you can do. I imagine a modern rubber compound. What they did was they reproduced the Dos i think they're campagnolo wheels which were probably like 15s on the dino and i think they're of 17s here so pretty that you want to talk expense yeah david lee the monza 3.6 evo dino so 3.6 that's what tells me it's a modem 360

engine yeah it was if it was a f40 engine be a 2.8 liter engine yeah with turbo with turbos yeah god that's a pretty car which by the way if it had an f40 engine it'd be a fucking death trap right you would sail that thing right off a cliff with 400 horsepower it's got to be crazy yeah but you know what it's it's gonna be linear right without the turbo spool yes you know you have that natural build of power and you really kind of can just use less throttle it won't just jump out at you yeah yeah but i mean you are a man of taste joe that's awesome it's a beautiful ride look at that thing they're selling them they're trying to yeah they're trying to build a run of them oh god i think they're like singer yeah yeah yeah but here's the problem with with with doing this with ferraris though ferrari people

even if you did something to the level of singer ferrari people aren't really like that ferrari people are originality over everything that's so weird yeah i don't understand they don't like they don't like modifying the cars they don't like a car that's previously been modified it's all about that numbers matching shit you know i don't get it the cars. They don't like a car that's previously been modified. It's all about that numbers matching shit. I don't get it. It's not for you. No. No, it's not really for me either.

I love driving the Ferraris, but I don't align with the Ferrari fan really values so much. But I'd like to own one soon. Maybe an 80s one. Some little silly. Like a Testarossa? Driven Testarossas are fun. Yeah. Dana White has a Testarossa. The maintenance is crazy. He are fun yeah dana white has a testarossa and he

had it completely redone he's like fuck you we put a new interior and a modern stereo everything it's probably nice they need a lot of maintenance though they have testarossas have timing belts see timing belts are something that italians were doing for a long time and the people they should should just never be done again. Sounds terrible. They wear out and they need to be changed. And in the case of the Testarossa, you're talking about a giant flat 12 engine. They're in the front. So they're up against the firewall behind the seats.

So you have to take off the whole back of the car and take the whole engine out of the car to do these timing belts. Oh God. Starting with the modern stuff, they use chains. They brought that into the 21st century, and they don't have to fucking fuck with belts anymore. Jesus Christ. But even Lamborghini at the time, like I have a Countach,

which is the best car ever made, and you don't have to do that bullshit because even Lamborghini used chains. So you don't need to do the engine out. Why did Ferrari go with belts? I think they thought it was smoother. Enzo Ferrari also had utter contempt for the people who bought his street cars and I wouldn't be surprised if he did

it just so the dealers would make more money on the services even if he knew it was worse. Why did he have so much contempt for the people who bought his cars? Enzo Ferrari just wanted to go racing. He was an egomaniac and all he ever wanted to do was see his cars enzo ferrari just wanted to go racing all he he was an egomaniac and all he ever wanted to do was see his cars win races and he came to a point where he couldn't make money doing that and he had to sell street cars to customers but throughout his entire life he

openly treated those people with disdain that's how you win that's the the story of lamborghini the story of lamborghini is ferruccio lamborghini had a ferrari it was not working for one reason or another he went to ferrari to complain about it enzo basically told him to go fuck himself and so he said i'll build a better car and that's the story of lamborghini and there what are they owned by now lamborghini is owned by volkswagen audi group yeah v a v a g Volkswagen Audi Group. Yeah, VAG. So they're more reliable now. Yes, but so are Ferraris. Around 2010-ish, when the 458 came out, Ferraris took a massive jump in reliability. How'd they do that? First off, the big one was the dual-clutch gearbox, which stick shifts were one thing, right?

The big one is the dual clutch gearbox, which stick shifts were one thing, right? And then these early single clutch paddle shift gearbox, they'd fry clutches like crazy. People didn't really know how to use them right. And they'd ride the clutches out and they would just go through clutches like crazy. The dual clutch cars have much more fail safe type stuff built into them and they actually work properly. But Ferrari used to have the gated shifter which is one of the coolest things ever yeah clinkety clink it's the best sliding into gears yeah there's nothing more rewarding than like banging a ferrari off the revler so why did they stop that people stopped the problem with with ferrari is that they're new

you know with the problem with all exotic, the first owners of exotic cars, is they want that new technology that's from racing. And also, it's improved the drivability. If you want to buy a Ferrari or a Lamborghini and drive it around in the city and use it as a car, you could buy a Ferrari right now, and it could just be your car. That wasn't a thing you could do, really, in the 70s or 80s or even 90s. You could literally use a modern, exotic car, be it Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLaren, Audi, whatever. That could be your only car now. And the gearbox technology is a lot of what's made that possible, and computer-controlled engine management systems. God, though. It's made that possible. And computer-controlled engine management systems. God, though.

It's a little disappointing. One thing I'm really happy that Porsche hasn't done that, but they have with the GT3 RS. GT3 RS. This last year and now the new ones. What do you mean, only automatics? All automatics. Well, the RS, though, the RS is, in Porsche speak,

is the fastest version of what they can build. They have the GT3 Touring with a stick. That's the one you want. I know. You want the Touring. Why do I want the Touring? Because it's a fucking stick. Because the four-liter engine with that six-speed gearbox is the best engine-transmission combination

available in cars today, period. Yeah, but the wide-body GT3 RS with the vented fenders and- You can modify. You can modify. You can modify later. You just complained about people who don't want to modify, and now you're complaining about modifying. But all that extra effort. Why don't they just fucking sell it to you with a stick shift?

I don't know, bro. I don't know. Talk to the Germans. I can't fucking win. Look, they make a GT3 with a stick. They do. They make the Cayman GT4 with a stick. They make the Boxer Spider with a stick. You can buy a 911, any level of3 with a stick. They do. I'm happy with that. They make the Cayman GT4 with a stick. They make the Boxer Spyder with a stick.

You can buy a 911, any level of 911 with a stick. Well, you can't buy the Turbo. Not the Turbo. They're the only ones you can count on, though. It seems like it's all going away. Even Corvette, the new Corvette's double clutch. Yep. They said the new GT500, they haven't ruled out the possibility of having a stick shift.

Well, so look, with the gt500 they just announced this thing it's it's like 750 horsepower yeah i've driven a lot of really powerful manual transmission cars for me once the car goes over about 500 i don't want to shift anymore really i don't when i'm driving it on like a racetrack as fast as it will go okay like when i went to test the the corvette zr1 the last front engine one when it went just completely fucking bananas right 750 horsepower i went to road atlanta to drive it and they had a manual and they had an automatic for me to drive and i drove the manual and it was so fucking fast that i did not feel comfortable taking my hand off the wheel to do the shifts that makes sense and and i was like at this level of performance

i really need to have both my hands on the wheel and i'm a pretty decent driver i'm not like shit i'm not the best but i'm not shit right and then when i drove the automatic car i went okay i feel way more comfortable at this pace with my hands on the wheel right but this eight speed automatic they have is the biggest hunk of flaming shit ever put into a sports car and so with the c8 with the new one they got rid of the manual and decided to substantially improve the auto with a new dual clutch eight speed which you know for you and for me is sad that there's no stick it's but i kind of get it because it's just sort of what progress looks i

get it if you're gonna take it to a racetrack yeah i do get it but how many people are taking their goddamn corvette to a race you know it's not even really about that it's sadder it's sadder than that it's really about how do we get the zero to 60 time under three seconds because when they had the z06 which was 650 horsepower and then they had the z06, which was 650 horsepower, and then they had the ZR1, which was 750 horsepower, they couldn't get it to 60 any faster. Detroit is still so suck in fucking zero to 60 that that is important for some reason. And adding 100 horsepower didn't change the zero to 60 because of the front engine rear drive. You're just traction limited at that point. Just burnouts.

Yeah. So by putting the engine in the back you change the weight distribution now you've got a dual clutch eight speed instead of a manual seven speed now you can get in that two second range to 60 which doesn't improve the experience but it does improve the number on that magazine cover the number but everybody know i mean how do you not know it's? It's a fucking fast car. You know it's fast. The GT500 is a real bummer, though, because that's such a muscle car.

You know, it's the same gearbox. That's a muscle car. It's the same version of the Tremec dual clutch from the Corvette. Really? It's in the Mustang. Oh, wow. It has a different number of gears, incidentally. It's a seven-speed in the Mustang and an eight-speed in the Corvette,

but it's the same family of brand-new Tremec dual-clutch gearboxes. What has a wider contact with the tires? I don't know what the Mustang's got. If I had to guess— It seems narrower, right? If I had to guess, the Mustang had wider. The C8 Corvette has 305 rears. That I know.

Really? That's it? Yeah. It's not—you know, with a mid-engine car, what is interesting about a mid-engine car is you find this a lot. I bet if you went out and looked at a Ferrari, like a 458 or something, you'd be shocked at how narrow the tires are. Really? Yeah, when you do a mid-engine car, you can give up a lot of that huge fat rear rubber because the weight distribution doesn't necessitate it. Tire sizes are typically chosen by the weight distribution of the car. So, like, your 911, your air-cooled car, your old one, right?

So you got big, fat rears and you've got relatively skinny fronts. That's because that engine is over the rears. So in a mid-engined, like I just looked this up for an unrelated thing, in the 458, the front tires are only 245s on that and the rear tires are 305s. So whereas a Corvette, your front tires are like 275 the old corvette front tires are 275 rears like 335 that that difference in weight distribution is how big of a difference you need in tires oh that makes sense the that's you know have you driven the gt500 no i didn't get to do it yet unfortunately it looks fun someone posted a video it ran a 10 six quarter mile out of the box it's crazy that's fucking it's a very very fast i cannot believe some of the cars that people can just buy well speaking of which that porsche that you sent me

the video yeah tycan ty i gotta say it right i can't tycon tycon yeah we're gonna fuck that one up for years that thing looks preposterous because look i know how preposterous my tesla is i tell everybody when they say oh you know you have really fast cars i'm like see that one right there yeah the one that looks like a dad car that's that one blows all of them yeah and you can drive like a complete piece of shit because it's silent too and no one notices you so quiet you just pass people like you just whiz by them yeah nothing happened yeah a tesla is the new bmw in terms of people who are driving like shitbags on the way to work. Because when it's silent, people don't call the cops or sneer.

You're just kind of gone. Dude, I was at a red light with some kid in a Model 3, and I was in my GT3 RS, and he blew by me. I wasn't even trying to race him because I know better because I have a Tesla, but it was the humiliation factor. He passed me and then got in front of me and then got on the highway like like it was nothing and an ev a fast ev if you live in los angeles is the correct tool for for this job you know if you have a home or in your case fucking sick warehouse to keep it charged um you know supercharger network's pretty good yeah but it's not i i wouldn't say you can use it exclusively. You need some kind of home base to charge or your office.

People that live in apartment complexes that have Teslas, I don't know how you do it. Yeah, if you don't live in a building where you can get them to install one. Or you work in a building where you have something there. EVs are amazing, and they're super, super fun. I totally get why people... I get your EV evangelism transformation. You having gone from the, you know, analog school of, you know,

manual gearboxes and fucking loud to experience that level of silent performance. And you must've felt like you're in a fucking spaceship. It still seems like a spaceship when I drive that thing. It's so quiet. It makes me feel good, though. Well, do you find the... It makes you feel quiet.

Yeah, you get a little more relaxed, right? Yeah, I like it when I take it to the airport, too, because I put it on auto. I go, doo-doo, and I get on the 405, and I just chill. In traffic, it's nice. Oh, it's the best. You know, it's nice. It is. I totally get it.

Be careful with that. Oh, I have my hand on the wheel. No, no. Be careful with saying it drives itself. It doesn't. Oh, it can't? It doesn't drive itself. What does it do?

Here the rabbit hole begins. It has an advanced driver's aid system. Okay, so it has follow. It follows the car in front of you, and it has a pretty good lane keep assist. Right. But now we go into the Joe Roggan rabbit hole of what does driving mean so driving involves decision making and driving involves a lot of mental processes that cars can't do and so that's when i when people talk about terms like self-driving cars or full

self-driving or whatever they're not usually using those terms correctly so a bunch of cars not just tesla uh right now although tesla's system is very good um have a very good lane keep assist and a very good radar cruise system and they have different methods of trying to ensure the driver's paying attention but i think the marketing is a little bit disingenuous and they really want people who don't know better to think and feel like this is a car that drives well they're kind of putting it on beta it's all just beta yeah that's fucking dangerous bro i'm riding my scooter i know i just had a model 3 for a week like a couple weeks ago and I liked it so much and I gave it back and I went god maybe I should lease one of these this is cool but the auto steering

feature I use it for about 20 minutes and it scared the piss out of me twice and I went have you seen that company called axis that takes um a model s and they put a carbon body uh wide body kit onto it no that sounds like fun though it's pretty dope uh the axis model s p 100 100 d is they replace the entire body with carbon they take the hood they take the fenders off they put wide body fenders on they they do a bunch of different shit to it you know most of the teslas aluminum i don't think so i wouldn't i wouldn't fuck with that yeah they fuck with the suspension they tighten up the suspension they change the wheels and they completely redo the interior they strip the interior that's where i would start yeah custom interior put put in whatever you want need for i i the the the you know teslas are they're they're

such cool cars and they're such you know um they're such like you said serene you know what i mean and all not i don't want to give that credit exclusively to tesla because other evs provide a similar experience too but um the one place they are lacking for the amount of money they charge their interiors are a little behind the times ask me if i'm getting one of those trucks bro good luck ask me if i'm getting one of the trucks you're getting a truck why are you asking of course i'm getting one of the trucks. You getting a truck, Joe? Why are you asking?

Of course I'm getting one of them trucks. Yeah. Look at that thing. You don't like it? No. You don't like it? No. I don't like it, and I... How dare you?

I'm not entirely sure it's real. I mean, I think... Interesting. I think... Come on. My initial reaction to that was, that's not a real thing. Me, George Jetson. And my second reaction is I'm pretty sure they couldn't build and sell that in America.

Why? Because I just don't think that that will pass the test that it needs to pass. And furthermore, like crash tests pedestrian safety stuff like that furthermore it's it's it's because how do i say this without it's really hard to talk about tesla because their fans are fucking crazy they get really mad and they don't leave me alone about it crazy in the beginning i thought that it's complete bullshit and fake and a fraud. I've talked to a few people since in the design space who design cars professionally for a living. And I have been convinced that it could be possible to build and sell a vehicle shaped sort of like that. Although not exactly like that.

shaped sort of like that although not exactly like that okay um having said that i think that the way that it has been marketed is not entirely honest also people companies show concept cars all the time right there's nothing wrong with showing a concept car there's nothing wrong with going here's a here's a prototype we built and this is going to show the direction of our industry right and if you build electric cars as your business it's pretty easy to build a concept car that runs and drives because you've got your skateboard and you can just you know put any body on it right so odds are there's like a Model X chassis underneath that prototype truck, right? But there's one. I don't think that accepting reservations is an honest thing to do when you don't know how you're going to build the truck. Don't know.

There's no way that truck's on the road next year. No way. Not a chance. I'm supposed to be on the road next year. He did. He said 20. He said next year. 2021.

2021. Did he say 2023? He did? He said next year. 2021. 2021. Didn't he say 2023? The full three motor 500 range badass one is like a three year down the line thing. Here's the problem.

Building cars and warrantying them, repairing them, selling them is like a logistics business. They're operating this company like a tech company where it runs on hype. Like, where's the Roadster? That's supposed to come out this year. When is that coming out? I don't fucking know. I haven't seen anything about it runs on hype. Like, where's the Roadster? That's supposed to come out this year. When is that coming out? I don't fucking know. I haven't seen anything about it since the prototype. Give me a guess.

I don't know. That's the point. I don't like, they've had these product launches and they build up the hype. It juices the stock. They take the reservations. But then it's like, you have to deliver the product, guys. You're actually a car company.

You're not exclusively driven on hype but they have made some cars of course no of course they made your there's one here yeah yes no i'm not saying they don't build and sell cars they build and sell cars but what i am saying is their business model is not like the regular car companies in that it is so dependent on this hype machine bringing in new investors bringing in new reservation cash when they go here's this crazy total recall space truck and all it's going to cost you people to buy into my space truck vision is a hundred dollars refundable and you're not going to find out if that $100 gets you a truck for like two and a half years. Are you going to go after your $100 if he's late?

But I'm not saying you shouldn't buy whatever he sells. Isn't the Roadster thing a different deal, though? Don't you have to pay all the money or something? There is a reservation process. All I'm saying is— I felt like the Roadster thing was different, though. That requires a substantial sum of money. Right, but we haven't seen any Roadsters either. Conservation process. All I'm saying is- I felt like the roadster thing was different, though. That requires a substantial sum of money.

Right, but we haven't seen any roadsters either. Not one, but we saw the prototype. Yeah, but it's easy to build a prototype when you're Tesla. Tesla can build a prototype very easily. They've got an electric skateboard. They can put any body on it. It'll look and feel like a mostly run-and-driving car. What's it say here? $45,000.

$5,000 credit card payment plus $45,000 wire transfer due in- it'll look and feel like a mostly run and driving car what's it say here 45 000 five thousand dollar credit card payment plus 45 000 wire transfer due in in 10 days yeah so you gotta put up fifty thousand dollars so you're giving him a zero interest loan of fifty thousand dollars until he delivers this product which is like a good income for a lot of people for a year yeah and you gotta give it up. Correct. And so I'm not saying that they don't build and sell real cars. I'm not saying you shouldn't buy one or lease one. I am saying, and this goes for, let's expand this.

This isn't to dig at Elon or Tesla specifically. Let's talk about all cars. Don't pay for something that isn't then handed to you. Good point. There's no, Elon's a billionaire. Why do you need to give him a zero interest loan of fifty thousand dollars for a roadster why do you need to give him a zero interest loan of a hundred dollars for a truck that he hasn't demonstrated he could build yet why do you think they made the roadster 50 grand and the down payment for the truck only 100 bucks because i will tell you why because why i believe i believe i'm

gonna i'm gonna put this and i believe okay okay i believe it's so they could go to a bank or a vc because if it's only a hundred dollars you get you get so many what the fuck right what the fuck 500 000 orders you go i've got 250 000 orders i need a billion dollars that's why you would do that yeah look at you clever boy because look here's the problem is if if it's legitimate okay if it's all on the up and up if everything is on the up and up there's a lot of individual pieces that don't really add up right and uh and a house that's not made of you know it's like imagine the the mortgage crisis in 08 you took all these bad mortgages and you put them together and all of a sudden it's considered a good investment, right? So

he smashed the fucking window on stage. He quoted a bunch of power and torque figures that are basically made up. He did that dumb video with tug of war the F-150 that was completely fake. Why is it fake? The F-150 was in two-wheel drive and he

was towing it uphill. That's not like... Isn't it easier for the car to drive downhill than uphill? No. Towing uphill, the weight transfer is... If you have a two-wheel drive pickup truck going downhill... My friend Jason Fenske at Engineering Explained did a whole video explaining debunking this. But if you have an all-wheel drive extremely heavy

vehicle because let's be honest if they build that truck that's a 6500 pound vehicle steel and batteries right all-wheel drive versus a pickup truck that's put into two-wheel drive with no weight in the bed right that's just so it's like all automakers make up silly games to show up their product, right? They tow the space shuttle or whatever bullshit they do, right? But they make up a game they know they can win. They don't make up a game and then cheat at it. Right. Like, why are you going to do a tug of war video if you then have to cheat at the video on video to do it?

Like, pick a different game you know you can win like what kind of a person makes up a game and then cheats at it like that's just well yeah ford wanted to get one of their own they're like well why don't you give us one of your teslas let's do it and then somebody up at up at the top said don't engage that idiot what are you doing i'm not doing this yeah so look again well they probably can't realistically it can't really compete with it i think a tug of war test is not it's not a test of anything it's a test of weight and tire grip that's it but when you a truck guy you gotta realize it's a thing they do truck guy bro let's bring that let's bring that cyber truck over to a gravel pit and dump two tons of gravel in the bed.

Did you see any of the renderings of people camping in the cyber truck? It looks absurd. Well, yeah. Dude, you want to buy one? Wait until he says, this is the one you can buy. I haven't put an order in. Yeah, I just, I don't think. But I would.

I don't think i would i don't think bucks congratulations you just bought into the scam that's that's that's you know what i mean i understand i i see like i don't think it's like a full-on fraud i just think he's figured out creative ways to to get the public to bankroll shit yeah that he already said was done. Bro, a million robo-taxis by 2020. Where's the robo-taxis, bro? Is that what he said? Yeah, this Cybertruck thing came out of seemingly nowhere, but right kind of at the same time that they figured out

that full self-driving is not right around the corner as they said it was. There's a lot of backtracking going on in the full self-driving. Level 5 is not coming anytime soon. You're not going to be able to send your Tesla out to do errands for you without a driver in it anytime soon. What was the parking? Tesla promises 1 million robo-taxis. Yeah.

That was from 2019? I mean, technically, they have a year and a month left, but they have delivered zero robo-taxis. That's a lot of robo-taxis. Yeah, a million? He did. He said that shit, man. Yeah. The problem with Tesla is Elon says some shit that then is impossible, and then they have

to figure out how to do it later, and sometimes it doesn't work. Do you know who Kyle Dunnigan is? No, who's that? One of the funniest guys alive. He's got the best Instagram on the planet, and he does face swaps. Uh-huh. Now that you know, you didn't know. Is it the deep fake guy? He does a lot. and he's guys alive but he's got the best Instagram on the planet and he does face swaps in his video you now that you know

you didn't know is it the deep fake guy now that you know he does a lot well Dr. Fakenstein did a lot of his stuff or the faking the faking

that's the one look at his newest one give me some volume on this give me some volume on this and go to full screen yeah oh my god how creepy

yeah look at fuck fucking shit oh great idea Lon Oh my god. How creepy. Yeah. Fuck. Fucking shit. Oh, great idea, Lon. Do it again. Same window, same ball. This should go differently.

Nope. Oh, fucking shit. You fool. Now I, Mark Zuckerberg, is officially cooler than you. No, I'm cooler. I make rockets. That's cool. Well, I connect the world. No, I'm cooler. I make rockets. That's cool. Well, I connect the world through Facebook.

I'm cooler. I'm double cooler. Double. I'm infinity cooler. Oh, my God. I'm infinity plus one. That's one more cooler. You can't add anything to infinity.

You fool. Only a nerd who's uncool would know that. Very uncool. Well, how about this? This is too close, dude. This is too real. I have all the data and I found this invention you unveiled in high school. So, it senses if you're getting a boner in class and then deploys this over you. So, letting everyone know you don't have a boner.

So, it's pretty cool. I know I could use this in Miss Tinsley's class. She's got great boobs. Great boobs, Miss Tinsley. Great boobs. Fucking weird. That smashing of the glass was one of the greatest moments in automotive history. So stupid. I was laying in bed

and my wife was next to me asleep. And I have nowhere. Ah! Ah! stupid i was laying in bed and my wife was next to me asleep and out of nowhere oh shit he did it again why did they think that they could do that i don't know i don't understand that there's i know that the idea was that when they hit the wall or hit the door with the hammer that it broke the glass or no first they he was gonna hit the door with a sledge hammer they did that but except he was using an orange hammer which is a dead blow hammer not a sledge hammer so that's a little disingenuous dead blow yeah it's designed to not dent things it's designed to hit things without rubber yes then but still he said the windows were a regular

tesla door probably because they're aluminum but not a thick stainless steel panel. Right. He wouldn't dent a stainless steel panel. And then he goes, the windows are bulletproof or whatever. And throws a fucking steel ball right through it. And then he puts up a video the next day that's like, oh, here was us testing it right before the reveal where it actually worked. They did show that it worked before.

Why did it work before? How do you know the video was made before and not after, after they fixed it? There's a shop vac on the floor and a towel over the door as if you had just cleaned up a bunch of broken glass. That's true. Yeah, go look at the video. There's a shop vac on the floor with a hose laid out like right underneath the door. Look at that.

Shop vac! Yeah, that's true. And that towel's over a door kind of maybe if you had just smashed a bunch of glass out of it that's true come on man that is a dope looking car i don't give a fuck what anybody thinks i don't care i'm glad you don't care anything and if they make that i will be and can i just bring up what is the word cyber cool now? Yes. Like cyber was exclusively uncool for like the last 15 years. It's cool again?

Very cool. Cool. Very cool. Only nerds, only a real nerd wouldn't know that cyber is cool. Cool plus one. Fucking hell. It's so silly. Well, you saw, I'm sure you've seen that Rezvani military bulletproof car that releases tacks, electrifies the door handle.

I had a really bad experience with Rezvani. I was at the gas station once pumping gas, and this fucking Rezvani pulls up. I'm like, who is driving that fucking thing? And Jamie Foxx jumps out. He goes, what's up, Joe Rogan? I was like, what's up, Jamie rogan i was like what's up jay is he a spokesman he's got to be a spokesman or something um i think he's friends with the guy who owns it and the guy gave it to him or something that's hysterical i don't think he's

a spokesman jay uh i met oscars making grammys he's got no time to be a spokesman for a tank that's hilarious i i drove this company's other car. They have a car called the Beast, the Rezvani Beast. Oh, let me see what that looks like. I drove it. It wasn't good. It wasn't good? Well, it's based on a Wrangler, right?

No. Well, the tank is. The Beast is based on an Ariel Atom. What? Do you know what that is? Yeah. The three-wheeled thing? Or the four-wheeled little thing?

No, it's four-wheeled. Yeah. That looks so good. That's not good. No. So, Jamie, the red one with no roof in the middle that's the one i drove oh my god so that's the one i drove it's not good it's not it looks good possible so what they've done there is they took an aerial atom which is a car that has no body

on it right it's like driving a fucking sled basically and they're crazy they're batshit yeah and they made body work that goes over it that's pretty much what they've done okay but in order to make it look kind of badass like a supercar they've made they put these really wide wheels and tires on the car yes which when you have an ariel atom that has no power steering and a very dialed in and even sort of twitchy steering rack. This thing had one of the sketchiest, I mean, the sketchiest handling of top five sketchiest handling cars I've ever driven. Look at the doors. Yeah, it's a real interesting kind of door design.

I've never seen one that had those doors. They slide forward? That looks CGI-ish a little bit. That seems super annoying. It's like the reverse minivan door go back to that black one yeah look at that look i admit it looks it does look pretty cool it's a it's a badass looking thing but it's it's um it just didn't drive good and the guy got kind of mad at me when i made a video saying that it didn't drive good mad at you he got a little mad

he was a little upset you were gonna only promote his thing for free? I think sometimes they expect that, yes. That's really silly. You got to do a better job of making a thing. I think now I do. Send him to the Taycan review. Yo. Go, hey, look at this. This is what happens when something's good.

We should talk about the Taycan. Because we talked about it for two seconds and got away from it. Dude, your video's insane. It looks like you're about to fly off the road and into space. It is. Might be a problem. So it actually is. I think we're at a point, really, where cars are actually too fast to sell to regular people.

Well, I think that all the time. And I made that argument about the ZR1 because it's so sketchy to drive with the rear wheel drive. I'm like, you're selling a 750 horsepower car to someone like me. Yeah. Who, at least I know how to drive a little bit. I'm probably in the top 20 percent of people in terms of driving a billion i can drive a little yeah but there's a lot of people that get those they don't know what happens when you stomp on the gas and go sideways like

that fucking poor guy and kevin hart you know when i saw that and i saw the fucking lines on the street yeah and then off i'm like this guy doesn't know how to drive one of those yeah that's a gnarly let someone do that you got a hellcat engine a rear-wheel drive car there's a cuda right like a 70 cuda 70 cuda yeah double the horsepower of stock i bought my 70 cuda i heard you did congratulations very much you're gonna make a handle sending it to roaster shop oh yeah perfect they'll do they'll do a good job yeah yeah but but with that with kevin's crash he was not driving right Someone else was driving No his friend was driving And his friend stomped on the gas

And the car went fucking sideways And he didn't know what to do Yeah You just can't do that With regular folks You got If you're gonna have a car like that Yeah

You gotta say Hey man Have you ever driven A real muscle car before Yeah How about one with 750 fucking horsepower Yeah

You can't do that man You gotta understand What you're doing. I think a Cuda is probably 500 or 600 pounds lighter than a Hellcat, too. Probably. I mean, really light and really gnarly. And with those custom builds like that, it's hard. I think someone's suing the shop that built it, which is really unfortunate. Yeah, it's like they're suing because of the waist belts

no roll cage all that shit i think that i hope i you know i hope they don't win because if they do it's a really bad scene for custom cars all over but even brand new cars you know i just had a mclaren 720 um which is my favorite uh supercar on the moment at the on the market right now and this thing is is 800 horsepower It's a demon of a car. Have you driven one? No, but I've seen them. It's fucking crazy, dude. I was at Auto Club Speedway, the NASCAR track,

180 miles an hour on the front straight. What? I mean, yeah. How much does it weigh? 3,100 pounds. 800 horsepower. Look, that's me. That's me about to get black flagged for drifting in a track day.

Really? Yeah. They give you a black flag? Yeah, they don't like when you're drifting in track days. What if you said it was a mistake? I didn't know how much horsepower it had. I got black flagged on like the 10th slide. If you do it once, you can be like, oh, I'm managing the throttle.

Trying to figure it out. When the smoke is wafting across on the street. But with that car, I mean, oh my my god it's so fucking good joe joe that car is in my opinion the pinnacle of gasoline powered street car performance really that's a strong statement i think i've never driven because you know why it's not just that it's batshit fast because a lot of their cars are batshit fast, too, although very few are this fast. It has this magic suspension technology. It doesn't have sway bars.

Do you know how sway bars work? So you can put a stiffer sway bar in your car, and it makes it roll less in corners. So typically, you have to trade off roll and compliance for stiffness and performance. Right. The 720 does not use sway bars instead it uses an electronically actuated independent valve system that allows you to mimic an infinite number of sway bar combinations in between you know full stiff and non-existent so when you put the car into comfort mode i shit you not it rides like a Rolls Royce. Like a Rolls Royce.

Not even like a 5 Series BMW or your Tesla. Like a Rolls Royce. And then you crank it to track and you go full Dorifto and it's just bonsai time. How much is one of those? That one is a Spyder, so it's $450,000. You can buy them used. The problem with McLarens And buying them new Is they depreciate

Like crazy Oh do they So you can buy Almost exactly the same car Like two years old For like $250,000 Really Yeah

That much Yeah Oh my god Didn't Stylebender Buy one of those He bought a McLaren But did he buy that model Do you know Stylebender

No who's that The name sounds familiar UFC middleweight champion Oh cool Bad motherfucker I I I tried to I've tried to listen to So much of your fighting shows I can't The name sounds familiar UFC middleweight champion Oh cool Bad motherfucker I I I

I tried to I've tried to listen to so much Of your fighting shows I can't I'm just not that into it I get it It's okay It's alright

It's okay You're into a lot of shit though Oh yeah He's got a 720 There it is That's the car Yep That's a 720

And if that's his garage He's got a 675LT In the background as well I think that's where he bought it Oh okay cool Yeah no He's got That's the right car for sure

It's a Spyder too so the roof comes up 11 seconds while you're driving 11 seconds up and down How fast can you go? I think it's up to 40 or something You can be going pretty good I put it up just while driving around And I drove through the rain

And I learned that if you go 74 miles an hour You stay dry Keep it over 74 with the hour, you stay dry. Keep it over 74 with the top down, you're staying dry. So it just whistles past you. Right over your head. Wow. But what if you stop at a red light?

Oh, no, you're done. It's got to happen on the highway. But you make the sickest rooster tails. This car makes the sickest rooster tails. If you hammer down in the rain, because it spools up the water out the the like the diffuser and it gets hit with the exhaust and it does like a top gun swirl no it's the fucking tits no is there video of this anywhere i don't know if i got video how did you not get video of the sickest thing you've ever seen sometimes it's a missed opportunity oh god that sounds so crazy it's so much money four hundred fifty thousand dollars so much money for a

car i know there's so many of these custom cars that people are making now like like seeing her with that 1.8 million dollar the dls yeah yeah you know about that yeah the dynamic and lightweighting study yeah chris harris was just on my show talking about it i have a real problem with you calling a car study like i didn't call it that. Anybody. Anybody doing that. Settle the fuck down. I'll tell you what. If Elon called that truck a study, I might be a little less angry about it.

It's a study. It's so cool. Super cool. That's very good. That's pretty good. South Africa. Yeah, that thing. That's the DLS.

That is a $1.8 million car that's not nearly as fast as that McLaren. No, but it's got one of the gnarliest engines that money could buy at any price. Yeah, the sound. That engine, specifically in that, is a four-liter co-developed by a guy named Hans Metzger, who developed the engine in your GT3 RS. He's a legend. The legendary Metzger engine, which people talk about at Porsche. Co-developed by Metzger and Williams, the Formula One team.

Jamie, pull up the video of that so we can hear the sound. So, the sound of this, I think it revs to like 10.5. What? Yeah. It revs, because this is the first ever air-cooled 911 engine that has a four-valve head. 9,000 RPM. Look at that. I thought it read above nine, but it's bananas.

Oh, this is Chris Harris driving up the hill at Goodwood, I believe. Wow. Look at the exhaust. Carbon fiber. Dude, this car is bananas. It's so pretty. I don't know who's driving it. You'd have to be so rich to even consider this.

Well, you know how they ended up doing this? They literally had a customer who came to them and said, you know, half a million for the normal car, that's great and all, but what if I gave you a full-on blank check? Full blank check. This is what they end up with. Give me some volume.

Turn this shit up. This is what they end up with. Give me some volume. Give me some volume. Yeah, turn this shit up. Bro. See, that's what you need in your life. Listen to this. Fly by.

It's great. But let me be honest with you. It's like a $400,000 engine. It's not as cool as a Shark Works 911 GT3 RS. It's not. Because the shark works is just as fast you could drive it anywhere you park it anywhere it handles probably better maybe i don't know sounds just as good bro there's no rhyme or reason or math that leads you to buy something like this air cool things a weird world's we're getting. That world's weird. Like, if you had a 500-horsepower engine anywhere else that cost you 400 grand, people would kill you.

Yeah. Air-cooled is like- What are you talking about? They'd beat you to death. You just charged me $400,000 for a fucking engine? I'll kill you. Yeah. Did we talk about this on the last show?

No, we talked about this in text. Okay. We were talking about- The value. Yeah. Explain that. Air-cooled horsepower yeah is like the worst value in motoring yeah so if you want like let's say you're starting with an engine that works

you buy a regular car like my carrera is an 87 it's my poor started you're starting with an 87 carrera okay and and you go in and you have an engine that works and you go to a performance shop and you say this engine makes about 200 horsepower as it is. I want it to make 300 horsepower. You have to give him your engine and probably $50,000 or $60,000. If you want that engine to make 350 horsepower, you probably have to give him $100,000. And if you want that engine to make 400 horsepower, you have to give him a quarter of a million dollars. That's what it costs to get that type of.

So when you see cars like a Singer where you go, okay, here's a Singer 911 and it's 600 grand. A quarter of a million dollars as that is the engine. A Singer's got 50 grand in leather in it. 50 grand in raw leather materials. Just the materials. Just the materials. Oh, God. Yeah.

This shit adds up like real fast. Well, the interiors of those things are special Crazy They're really special Really really special But I mean I guess Like that's what that Rob guy wanted to do Right

Like he's Cost no object Yeah Everything is important He's really into bespoke everything And their whole thing Everything is important And there's a market for it too

I mean John Ward with your Bronco over there Is maybe a half a bump down from that. Not quite as obsessed, but on that same level. Oh, yeah, yeah. Those aren't cheap. No, the Icon stuff is great, and they've got great taste. I think it's weird. He's got great style.

What I love about Jonathan Ward is his style, like what he's into. I love that he makes those derelicts. Yeah. And the way the guy talks about it. His taste is perfect. Oh, he's got amazing taste his ideas and design taste but i just had a thought earlier you were kind of lamenting how these modern supercars aren't analog and they don't do stick that right there is where companies like singer and icon come in they will deliver you that analog not just an analog product. They'll deliver you the, like in 1999, Porsche stopped making air-cooled engines.

They started making water-cooled engines. But like Singer and some other people are like, well, what if you continue developing the air-cooled engine from where Porsche left off? That is how you end up with half a million dollars because people that have this kind of money are willing to pay for that analog experience but without any sacrifice at all. Or the $1.8 million version. I think they made, I don't know how many, 20 or 30 of those. 20 or 30? Bro, these fucking Saudis and these Chinese guys. There's no either or. There's no either or anymore.

You know what I mean? With these million dollar plus cars, it's all the same 300 people. Really? Yes. The average Bugatti owner has like 50 cars. 50. Really? Not fucking five or 10.

Yeah. It's the same 300 people. Post Malone has one. Just hoovering up shit. So is Tracy Morgan. I know. Tracy Morgan crashed his on the first day first day tracy morgan i i love i love seeing tracy morgan in a bugatti that to me is just fucking spend that walmart money you motherfucker spend all of it how much did they give him from the crash i don't think anyone's ever said but it's i mean it was

tens of millions of dollars if not not hundreds of millions of dollars. It's a lot of money. It's whatever his lifetime earning potential was as Tracy fucking Morgan. That's barely. That's a Bugatti Grand Sport Vitesse. The roof comes off. Look at that fucking Honda Element. Not Element, a CR-V just crunched.

Just turned right into him. Bro, that CR-V's insurance is fucked. But that's the kind of car that's going to hit you. A minivan that doesn't give a fuck about life. I mean, that's, you know. You know, they're like, oh. You can worry about that kind of shit, or you can. Yesterday, you know, I was in my off-road 911 here

and there was a double right turn lane, right? And I was on the outside one and someone was on the inside one and they were on their phone not fucking paying attention. We both make the turn and they don't stay on theirs.

They just drift into mine. Of course. So I go into the dirt shoulder and fucking hammer down sideways out the dirt shoulder and pass them out of the dirt. That's why you want an off-road 911. Yeah, I guess.

For those rare moments when you get driven off by an asshole in a minivan. Yeah. Oh, we took a left, but Ty can. Ty can. It's like 700 horsepower. I think they're calling it 610 horsepower and 750 torque. But just like the Tesla, the torque is instantaneous. It's at zero.

It's at zero. So you saw in the video I sent you the fucking launch yeah it's you know we're really splitting hairs here with the tesla and the porsche what you know what does two four feel different from two five like i don't know but my eyes hurt yeah same shit right and the porsche has this really interesting thermal management system so tesla although they do a beautiful road car for the city you know they've never gone racing they don't they don't know about endurance racing or real real high performance driving i mean you've seen them kind of struggle with the nurburgring a little bit it's a little harder than it looks over there what did happen with the nurburgring

with the tesla i think they went over there with a prototype they took the interior out of it which means the wide body it's a wide body version with three engines, I believe. Yeah. They weren't talking about what it was, but I think it's a three motor car with a widened body and a different aero package and different tires. Are there pictures of it? There were some. And they went back with one with a giant GT3 wing on it, too.

That's hilarious. It seemed like the number they originally put out and you guys talked about on the show jamie looked it up was a con a compilation of best sector time so they released this sort of theoretical best time but they never actually ran that complete lap the big difference between a tesla and the and the Porsche right now is thermal management. Managing heat and cool sort of where it needs to go. Yeah, there's the prototype. And I believe that Tesla can build.

They're exactly the kind of company that can build a one-off prototype. They could go around the Nurburgring very fast. They're lean. They could do that. You could see how it's wider. It looks cool. It looks badass. It does look pretty badass.

Yeah, it looks awesome. But we didn't put out the Apex. Show me a photo of the Apex Tesla S. So the Taycan has this really interesting thermal management system that integrates the brakes, the battery, the motors, and the cabin heat, cabin climate control, all in one system. And so it's very common that one system will need heat while the other needs to be cooled and one will need so they if the brakes are hot but and they need to be cooled but the cabin is cold and needs to be hot they use the brake heat to they can send heat or cold anywhere in the car it needs to go no go stay up there go back that looks okay it's not that bad

oh it doesn't let you change it? It changes it. Oh, there it goes. That's not bad. It's okay. I've seen worse. They swap everything out with carbon fiber, but they put dope wheels on it. But the interior is where the magic happens. I would like to see the interior.

I don't really see a point to doing body kits on EVs. Oh, there you go. Quilted leather, little armrests, some carbon. I think the idea is that- There you go. Go back up. See on the left there with the body The wheels are nice

Yeah, they put larger wheels, wider tires What does that say on it? Does that say unplugged on the brakes? I think that's their company Oh, it's called unplugged performance? Yeah, Apex, unplugged Apex I mean It's not for me

I think they put Carbon fiber brakes on it Are those carbon ceramic brakes? Yeah I think Carbon ceramic brakes Oh wow They probably charge A lot of money for that I'm sure it's not cheap

I don't know Maybe the interior But I wouldn't Carbon ceramic brakes How about that? Yeah Maybe they could do it 19 piece

Carbon fiber body So your Tesla for instance If you want max performance Like the hardest launch You can do Right You gotta have like 80% battery or more And it'll only let you do a couple of them in a row

before it starts to get noticeably slower. You know what I mean? It'll let you launch, but you want that 2.5 or whatever it is, it's only going to be your first couple launches where you get it. The Taycan will give you full performance until the battery's dead. So I get a full bore launch control start with like 40 miles of range on the battery. Now, how many miles can it get from fully charged? In theory, 300.

In theory. Yeah, yeah. But that's you driving like an old lady. So I was able to drive around normally and I found that the range estimate was pretty accurate. I only got the car for one day. So it was pretty accurate. I only got the car for one day, so it was pretty accurate. And then I went to the Canyons, and in that video,

I burned off 40% of the battery just making that video. Really? Yeah. It would be the same in a Tesla. It's not. When you start driving real fast in EVs, bro, you're just smoking through battery. Do you think that with the demand,

technology will improve to the point where they can get real range out of these things? The theoretical range of the Tesla Roadster was like 600 miles, but again, that's never been done. I think, so I'm not an expert on EVs, and there's electrical engineers

that will be screaming fucking at their iPods right now. Well, it's normal on this podcast. I know, right? I believe that the 300-mile range, that's a good amount of range. The key that we will see that will really be a game changer is battery charge times. Can we get a charge in five minutes or ten minutes and not 30 minutes or an hour? Right. And the number of stations, the opportunity to charge.

And that's an issue with the Porsche over the Tesla is they don't have the supercharging network, right? Correct. Although they are using the Electrify America network, which is actually, it's another one of the networks that's meant for normal EVs. It's actually bigger. Really? But they don't have as many super high speed chargers.

So the Tesla and all EVs on the market right now except the Taycan, all the rest are 400-volt systems. And the Tesla is probably the best, most efficient use of 400-volt architecture. 800-volt architecture, if Porsche is to be believed, is more efficient. It's a lighter setup. It flows in and out faster than the 400 volt system there's a couple other advantages to it but it can charge really really fast um through the correct chargers there just aren't that many of the super fast ones around there's only three in la right now one is in burbank at the Best Buy in Burbank Is the closest one to here And I charged one from

Almost dead to almost full In about 18 minutes Wow At that one yeah But there just aren't very many So you can go Stop Grab a cup of coffee

Get a bite to eat real quick Go to Best Buy Yeah Stroll around You come out You got 80% of your juice Yeah it was pretty good It went fast enough

That I could watch it go Six Seven Really Yeah yeah it was pretty good it went fast enough that i could watch it go six seven really yeah yeah i yeah it was pretty good like bad yeah if they get the number of stations right i think the real problem with ev adoption especially in place like la is the infrastructure man i don't think this city generates enough electricity through its grid for all of us to be charging cars at home that's a good point right because it would if we got all the millions of cars that are now charging it would radically change everything yeah unless everybody switches over to solar even solar i

don't think is efficient enough that's the other problem is now it's a homeowner's thing and so like evs are awesome like if you like how an EV drives and you like the experience of owning one and it works for your life, like a thousand percent get an EV. But is a 90% EV adoption rate in LA something that's really realistic? Like not anytime soon. I just don't think so. I'm building a building right now. And so I know I'm learning about how much power the city will give me in my building and i don't have enough this i'm building a brand new building and the city won't give me

enough power to put more than two level two charges in my building i was like yo let me get a bank of five my building would be an ev charging spot and they're like no can do bro we won't no power so yeah and can you enhance the amount of power that you have not really i mean solar it like solar will reduce your bill but it doesn't add it doesn't give you more amps in the building unless you're completely off grid correct and then you'd have to have and then you'd have some yeah now we're you know now you're in the weeds yeah now you're doing the opposite you're like burning fucking dinosaur fuel to try to keep your shit going. And with a new building, I'm no expert, but all the people who are experts are telling

me that I should wait a year or two and see what my utilities are before I even attempt solar. Because I might, you put it in now, how do you know if you've saved any money? Right, right. I'm obligated by law to make my building solar ready. So I had to reinforce the roof. Yeah, yeah. There's a bunch of shit when you're building a building that you got to do to in 2019 yeah my building is the only collector

this is our west side collector car storage my new business and it's open for reservations currently yes we'll be open in january we're a little bit behind but construction's hard as it turns out um it's the it's the first time that we've ever put indoor quad stackers in Southern California. We have four high vehicle stackers. We have 18 of them. What are you doing about earthquakes? The built- Rubber everywhere?

2019 code, dude. Yeah? Dude, we have more concrete and rebar. I mean, we're up to it. We're good for a 12-0 earthquake. That's what we're rated at. That's the 2020 standard. I want a house like that.

It's- Bro, we poured- I want a 12 the 2020 standard. I want a house like that. It's... Bro, we poured... I want a turbo house. I poured 110 cement trucks. Wouldn't that be great if the world's on fire and you're sitting there sipping tea? Well, speaking of that, so the wall, the dividing wall in between

the car storage area and the members lounge, my office and my studio, is legally required to be a two-hour firewall so you can sit there and have a tea and watch a fire on the other side for two hours and then just walk out the front door really yeah that's a law for for cal for la for 2019 wow we had to have the fire code written for us it sucked that seems pretty cool though that they're doing that that they're making these standards extremely high i believe that it's good to have

high standards yeah and that you can get it you know you but you end up with a higher quality product and you can then charge more for it you know and that's sort of how it works but that's a big leap for you to just jump in and build some crazy car storage yeah i've never done shit like that before think about that like the amount of money that must cost is fucking extraordinary i'll tell you off mike but it's yeah it's it's you can probably guess but it's crazy it's crazy and it's scary and it started small yeah and then it and it was like well the the model doesn't work small what about medium the model doesn't work medium either what about big well it only works big if you build the building you know because you the the land is so expensive that you have to go vertical and you can't go vertical in an existing structure because it just doesn't meet earthquake codes so you have no choice but to

build and then there's a law in la that if you build for every thousand square feet of commercial real estate you have you need to have two street accessible parking spaces. So I had to dig a basement. So I dug a 7,000 square foot basement. So I have 30 underground parking spaces. That counts. So the half the cost of the building was digging the basement. Jesus Christ, dude. Yeah.

And where is this? It's in Playa Vista. It's across the street from Google and Yahoo and the Clippers building. Oh, all those dirty rich people. Dirty, dirty rich people. Dirty. Yes. Filthy rich. Yes. Wow. yes wow that's cool you gotta come see it man it's the coolest where's playa vista what is that near it's right off the 405 in jefferson um on the way between marina del rey and lax oh yeah yeah yeah all right perfect for people who live out of town hit me up westside collector

car stores.com that's the end of my plug i I'm done plugging. I'll come visit. But I'm learning so much about concrete and steel and all this crazy shit. Concrete's a weird, weird science, man. Oh, I'd imagine. It's crazy. I don't know either. The pressure testing and there's different mixtures and they shake all the rebar to get it to settle. It's fucking nuts.

Yeah, you got to wait for the perfect day to do your pour. How long have you been building this? Four years. Four years. four years that's right when we first started talking about it was at least two years ago we broke ground two years ago i broke ground in august of 17 dude you must be shit in your pants with all that money i'm so exhausted i don't know how to handle that i'm so exhausted friends that have built houses before i'm like fuck man we remodeled our kitchen once for eight months we were cooking on a hot plate in the living room and i was like this is ridiculous yeah it's it's like you know it's like a project car you know we're at the point where the car looks done right it basically looks done except there's just so

much left to do and dealing with the city is so so, so hard. This is why I'm a little less optimistic about others in terms of the adoption rates of EVs and stuff like that and solar and stuff like that. Because working with the city for this stuff is so hard. And it's taken me so long to do one stupid fucking building. We're looking at a whole city? I don't know how anything got built here. It's crazy. Do you think about moving man sunshine's free and weed's legal so nice good point i know that's corny as fuck but makes me want to spark up a joint let's do it it goes a long way yo what

about that kevin smith shit kevin smith was up in here talking about his snoochie boochies bro it's just weed i know it is kevin smith's a great guy i know it is but i but i had the thought when i was listening to your show and it was like you're telling me the fictional drug dealer from that movie i loved when i was 13 is now a real drug dealer but legally and as that movie character that is some crazy ass shit yeah that's basically what's going on what is this mike? Mike Tyson weed. This is Mike Tyson weed? Yeah. How about that? Do I go get a face tattoo afterwards?

Is that what happens? You don't have to. But if you smoke the whole thing, you probably want one. Wow. Does he sell this like this? Yeah. It's a full Godfather blunt? Yeah.

Fucking hell. It's a giant fat blunt that looks like a fucking cigar. That is crazy. That is awesome. Yeah. All right. It's pretty fucking good. Dude, what do we need to talk about with cars?

Is there anything else happening in the industry that you want to know about? Well, I mean, the Taycan, I don't think we've completely covered it. My question with all these cars is, what is next? Right? It's like, we're seeing these incredible zero to 60 under three second times. We're going to eventually see the range increase. But if you had asked me 10 years ago, are we going to see a 2.4 0 to 60 sedan that feels like it's violating physics when you stomp on the gas? I mean, that's what I drive.

It has a laptop for a screen. It's crazy. Yeah, we've gotten to about, I don't know, right maybe 10 years ago or so, the trajectory of increased performance got very steep. Yeah. Where the new version of every car has 100 more horsepower. It's crazy. And now we've got these high-performance EVs. And with a high-performance EV, you've built a dragster.

That's a fucking dragster. I mean, the Taycan does a quarter mile in the low 10s. I mean, so you can, you know, I don't want to be flippant and say all it takes is money, but all it takes is money. You walk into a dealer and you're buying a dragster that, you know, you're sitting in an NHRA license to run that fast. Now you can do it on the way to whole foods that's great you know and so with tycan the real difference for me between tycan and tesla is the steering and handling because teslas have very video gamey steering it's accurate and it's sharp but it's not you don't feel it. No. Taycan has the steering system from the Porsche 992, and so it feels like a Porsche.

And so when I drove it, I texted you. I go, Joe, this is for you. Well, Tesla figured out how to make it go fast, and they figured out how to make it handle pretty good. How to make it cool. They figured out how to make an EV cool, because EVs, remember the RAV4 EV? Fucking Ed Begley was driving in the 90s.

What is this, Jamie? This is their video they had. I was just going to put it on so you could see. One of the things that makes Porsche Taycan different is they have a two-speed transmission. Your Tesla is one gear. So your Tesla from zero to 120 is bananas, but it pretty much dies off because it runs out of gear. Because most people don't really need to go faster than that. But Porsche, with their Autobahn stuff stuff they need more at the top end so the taiken actually switches

into second gear and keeps pulling like crazy you know above 80 to 100 miles an hour and the biggest difference though dynamically is like you know how in your tesla you can drive with one foot like one pedal when you lift off the pedal it breaks the car in your Tesla you can drive with one foot? Like one pedal. When you lift off the pedal, it breaks the car. And so you can pretty much drive around with one foot. Taycan doesn't do that. So Porsche believes that the kinetic energy built up by motion is better used by allowing the car to just coast as far as possible than by hitting the regen and capturing it in the

form of braking the way that Tesla does. Now, you can turn that function off in the Tesla. Does that have an impact on, if it's doing that, does it have an impact on the way it feels? Well, it feels, I mean, yes, because you have to use the brakes more in everyday situations. Does it slow down the car quicker to use the brakes more? I mean, to have regenerative? No, it doesn't necessarily slow the car down faster.

So it doesn't make a slower 60 to 0 time? No. In fact, I believe that Porsche is ultimately better at that. The only real difference is that when you lift off the gas and a tesla it slows down as if someone is applying the brakes yeah in the porsche you just pure coast it's a pure coast and and it's a really it's it's an even more of a coast that feeling than a gasoline car it's like you're freed of all restraint like because after i'm fucking mobbed up the mountain making that video that i sent you yeah i was like oh shit dude i've only got like 40 miles of range

left i gotta get off this fucking hill yeah and so i i was at the high point in the hill and i go let's coast and so i just coasted and i was like let's see how far i can go without touching the brakes and i got this motherfucker coasting up to like 100 miles an hour, taking corners and not using the brakes because the handling and the grip were so good. I coasted like 12 miles down the hill. Dude, what about a deer? What about a boing, boing, boing right in front of you? Alertness.

Boom. It's about that alertness. Splatter. Dude, I've seen some crazy shit while I'm filming, and I've never been able to not stop the car No, believe me, I know you can drive I saw the guy pulling a log down the road Just free on a chain

There was a guy in a Ford Explorer Driving in a windy canyon like this Do you need to make a video of this? Yeah, I caught it on camera And with a log the size of a car engine Just free on a chain Swinging Taking out signs

Jesus Christ Craziness Sometimes I almost threw that video In the garbage too It's amazing how little Of that there really is Oh yeah here it is

These people are so God damn crazy I think it Right there Back it up 20 seconds Jamie 20 more Yeah so come around

This corner Look Log Just free dragging That shit That is so crazy That he thinks that's okay And if you back the video up

Like 30 more seconds, Jamie, you can actually see, not from the very beginning, a little forward, you can see the trail that the log has made on the road. It made like a line of kind of dirt on the road, and it goes back and forth across the road, and you go, well, what the hell was that? Dude, that's so crazy. You know what's really crazy about that?

That could start a fire. Oh, my God. Couldn't it? Probably, but it could also swing into an oncoming car. That's like a 500-pound log. Yeah, it definitely could swing into an oncoming car. That guy definitely doesn't have control of it. It's definitely a terrible, terrible idea.

But I managed to stop a supercharged Lamborghini doing that. By the way, that's not my YouTube video. Someone has stolen my YouTube video. These motherfuckers. Yeah. Motherfuckers. These motherfuckers. Hit that fraud protection, Jamie.

That's incredible. That's a crazy thing to see. Yeah, there's knuckleheads out there, man. There's a lot of them i go quick but i go up there at times that i i know almost almost for certain that the road is empty i that the the roads that i use are not commuter roads and i go there at times where there's it's highly unlikely to see people that's the same amount of time in the day where that guy drags logs. Excellent point, sir. Same spot on the dial.

Hey, when I drag my logs, no one's on that fucking mountain. God damn it. What are you doing up there? Speeding? Yeah, that's true. That's where he gets his logs, man. It's too heavy to pick up. I've seen other weird shit. I've seen people doing push-ups in the street. Oh, Jesus Christ. I've seen people on horseback

in the street. Dude, some guy just seen people on horseback in the street dude some guy just died who is a world-class climber did you hear that what i felt he fell a thousand feet oh not the not the uh not alex honnold no did you meet that did you interview him i've had him on twice he's fascinating that movie is crazy dude he's on another level. He's like a Zen master. Yeah. Because he has that smoke show of a girlfriend. He pretty much tells like, oh, you just do your thing. I'm going to be on this wall. Dude, he freaks me out.

I mean, freaks me out to the point where talking about him, my hands start sweating. I get super nervous. I got real sweaty watching that movie. Dude, I get freaked out thinking about him. What he does is like off the charts nuts, man. He's a thousand feet in the air, and he's just no hand. I mean, no ropes. It's holding on with one hand. Straight t-shirt.

Fuck, man. I can't even watch it. That thumb thing in that movie. What's the name of the fucking movie? Free Solo. Free Solo. Thank you. When he goes, you have to put your thumb, and it's like on this postage stamp side.

Yep, and that's how he's staying alive. Fuck this. That's crazy. I don't have that. You got to stay calm. I don't have that thing. I got none of that, too. I can't do that shit.

No, I'm not interested. I'm amazed that he can, and I'm fascinated to watch him. It's like I just don't want him to ever get hurt. He's a really nice guy. I mean, you feel like he just needs to be on that edge, right? Some of those people just need that. My hands are sweaty talking about this guy. I know, me too, me too.

Fuck. Or maybe that's Mike Tyson's weed. It's Mike Tyson's weed. Could be. Yeah, you combine Mike Tyson's weed and that dude climbing. Oh,'s weed and that picture what about the guy taking that picture put that down does that guy get it down jamie i'm fucking hell i'm too high to look at that tell me how you like your grand seiko watches they're very nice the last time i came on the show i talked to you about my grand seiko watch and your show is so good for business that

i got a handwritten letter from the ceo of grand sega wow that's very nice they make beautiful stuff they do i love uh mechanical shit yeah you know i love things where someone's making it and there's gears and there's innovation and i'm just i don't know what what part of our monkey brain is so fascinated by innovation and craftsmanship and shit like what's cool to me about watches is like they're these crazy math machines. And I had a watch called an IWC Perpetual Calendar. It was like a big fucking tank of a watch. And it would do time, the day, date, the month, the year, four digits, year,

the moon phase, and phase had a power. And it basically would, it knew all the leap years. It knew how many days, that's it, how many days there are in a month. And you, if you kept this fucking thing wound, and either wearing it or on a winder, you didn't have to adjust it for 400 years. Like, you don't have to adjust it until the year 2400 that's fucking crazy that's just springs and wheels dude isn't that nuts that really is nuts and when you

put it that way it's it's astonishing because it's it's an interesting combination of engineering and art yeah right because it looks really pretty. Yeah. But it also, it's phenomenal engineering. Like, who are the wizards behind that? There's a new, there's a watch called a Vacheron Constantine. It looks like a clock. It's like as big as this clock. It has the most complications of any watch ever made.

It has 57 complications. of any watch ever made has 57 complications so one mainspring drives 57 different spring and gear sets that do 57 different things and that will and it will continue like that that's some funky weird ass art piece i don't know what that is i don't know what that is that's some weird shit um but uh yeah that's bonkers i know but i know you mean that someone's what that is That's some weird shit Dude But uh Yeah That's bonkers I know But I know what you mean That someone's doing that

That that's what they're doing They're making And here's the really bonkers thing When you find out that They started making them In like the 40s And Like what?

Oh you mean a guy Who's worked on one watch For like a decade? No but like If you think about Like automatic watches Like uh Like Rolex

Or something like that When did they start making those? Well, mechanical watches, they've been making since like the 1700s. If you want to talk about strictly like the automatic winding rotor, just, Jamie, it's Vacheron Constantine 57 Complication is what you want. When was the first automatic winding watch? It was like in the early, like probably world war ii uh time yeah yeah the winding rotor maybe a little early maybe like the 20s it might have actually so that so what

you're looking at that's one side there's there's there's shit on both sides of that thing what isn't that crazy what is all that nonsense it's so much shit i don't even know i honestly don't even know i can't read that i don't know and there's a list there's a wikipedia page for that watch that has the list of all the complications but but something like that you're literally talking like it's probably six or seven million dollars to buy something like that some someone just paid 30 30 million dollars for a watch what yeah the most i think it was might have been the most expensive it's a weird thing right because it is the gentleman's jewelry right yeah it's the gentleman's jewelry where it's like literally like 90 for other guys like yeah look at that yeah and it's a specific look at that movement though yeah specific subset of other guys yeah and it's it's

um you know we don't get to like we don't we don't really get to wear diamonds and shit around you know but we got to have a trophy so it's okay check this out you'll like this my friend cameron weiss made this this is a weiss watch company watch designed and manufactured exclusively in los angeles every bit of that watch made in los angeles wow he got me that for uh uh when i first met him and um he makes them by hand every one of them but very pretty super merca i like that shit fuck you oh my god can i tell you yes that i just saw there is a fast and the furious musical parody that these dudes came up with and they're doing it in this little theater here the dynasty typewriter theater and it is like the team america of fast and furious and it's the

fucking funniest thing i've ever seen i went twice whoa and it's a call it's just called the fast and the furious musical parody but it's they have women play a bunch, like Tyrese and Ludacris are played by women. It's fucking great. It was written by these guys, Brad Silnutzer and Joey Orton. They came to my podcast. And this is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. And I don't know, you got me on a Team America tangent. Dude. I went there. What a great great idea it's fucking hilarious dude it's so great anyway are you still alive your

second show of the day yeah i'm fine the solution is either less drugs or more drugs um well marijuana takes everything to that weird hard left you know so it's like no matter what you were doing during your day before like no matter what you were doing during your day before you smoked weed now you're doing this. Once you smoke weed you're like whoa

what are we doing? Where are we going? Should we talk about like some conspiracy theory or something? Epstein didn't kill himself. I don't think he did. Nope.

I think he might not have. Maybe. What are the odds that he did? If you had a bet. If I was in Vegas. If I wanted to give you odds, like, hey. The odds he did.

Come on, Matt. 100 bucks? 10%. 10% is where I've got it. I don't want to say it's like zero, but I think it's like 10%. I think it's low. So would you plunk down 100 bucks on 10 to 1 odds that he did kill himself? No.

The opposite. I would do the opposite. Yeah, probably. Yeah. You'd want more than 10 to 1 that he did kill himself? No, no, no. I think there's only a 10% chance he killed himself. Right, okay.

I'm fucking with these numbers here. I'm making it confusing. I don't know how you're... However you're converting it to odds, it's falling apart. I get it. Sorry. I get it. It doesn't seem likely.

I'm going to go with no way, though. No. It doesn't seem likely. No. That to go with no way, though. It doesn't seem likely. No. That's just crazy that you could still do that. Did you see the Ford electric car? Epstein's suicide guards say they're scapegoats for a broken system. Well, that's a defense.

The defense is just we were incompetent, not we killed him. Dude, who knows? Can you imagine if there's weird shit going on in our country right now? What's going on behind the scenes, man? What's going on behind the scenes that somebody could sneak somebody in to kill somebody if that's what happened? What's going on?

That's an inside person. They don't just sneak somebody in. That person's already inside. The cameras are off, bro! That's crazy. The cameras were off. Whoops, sorry. The cameras, come on bro i have cameras at my house they're never fucking off come on when the cameras are off too i've heard repeated a few times but not more recently that there there was screaming being heard from his cell that someone heard screaming yeah that's not stop being repeated now so dude bro we live in a fucking crazy world

yeah that's dark um i don't know hi hey it's just that's probably the biggest public conspiracy theory that most people believe in do you think most people believe it was a it was a hit i would say most people i just read about one last night is there a poll is there a pew poll on that one they tried to overthrow fdr 1935 and this general was like the whistleblower for it because the people that were supposedly trying to do it were trying to get him to be like the face to talk people into doing it and so he went and talked to congress about it his name's's like Smedley Butler, I think. Smedley Butler.

What a great name. He was a double medal honor winner. And they called him out, and everyone said, oh, no, that's just a lie. It was a joke. There might have been some stuff being talked about in this meeting, but we were never going to do anything. And they said they had 500,000 soldiers that were going to march on D.C. to take over.

And they had some general they were going to put in place as a dictator. There's a book written about it a couple years ago. And this guy, Smedley Butler, wrote a book in 1935 called, like, War is a Racket. War is a Racket, yeah. Wow. Wow, so he knew about all that? Yeah, yeah, I just read about this last night.

Jeez, how do you know? What was the source? The book that's called, I'll pull it up. Like, The Time, The Conspir time to conspiracy to overthrow the government. And then it's all about him. It's a really long book that just came out about like overthrowing FDR. Wow. Interesting.

I guess none of this shit is like new. I feel like I haven't been, I'm like, I just turned 38 and I feel like I didn't really start paying attention to anything until, you know, I was in like my mid-20s or whatever. Yeah. And it's been, you know, yeah, Bush was a piece of shit. And then it kind of seemed on the surface like Obama was kind of normal. But like it and now obviously we live in crazy town. But but it I think it I think I feel like it's new and it's not new. And this kind of shit has just happened over and over and over again.

Well, it's the and it's not new and this kind of shit has just happened over and over and over again. Well, it's the remnants of an ancient society. I mean, we're dealing with this ancient system that was created long before we had anything resembling our way of communicating that we have now. It's all set up. You know, like when you have a government like ours, it's set up in this way. It's like, is this the ideal way to do it or is it just the way we've been doing it forever you know what i mean yeah i don't think i don't think our bureaucracy can move fast enough to keep up with the technology i think you're 100% right i don't think culture some real problems i don't think culture can keep up i think i don't think

i'm designed to handle the kind of communication that i feel like i have to handle in terms of like i have an instagram page with like 225 000 people and it's a lot less than you but i think you do a better job of like detaching from it than i do yeah maybe you just keep yourself busier than i do even busy is important it is but it But I just feel like I'm not designed to handle interpersonal communication with that volume of people who just feel that they can say what the fuck ever. And they're trying to push your buttons and fuck with you. Yeah. That's kind of frustrating. We're all learning to communicate with each other like this.

And we're all learning to interact in real time with this new technology that no one saw coming you know this new ability to communicate that just didn't exist before yeah it's weird for all of us it's weird for the dummies like me and it's weird for the really smart people that create all this technology because we're opening up this new realm of human communication i think by just by making every by you know by breaking it into tweets you know it's got to be these short little thoughts and all that's angry man yeah but just in terms of like if you watch um like uh look at our access to the news like our access to like these stories that are going on in hong kong you could like specifically focus on it and try to follow it and you could follow it pretty much all day long all these

protests and stuff like that it's like it doesn't matter if the networks are sanctioning it people are paying attention to things like that yeah when things like that happen they become these worldwide things that everybody is following along with that was never the case before man you had to wait for the news. You had to wait for them to tell you what's going on in Germany. That's true. Yeah, yeah. No, I think so.

It's weird now. So do you think that we actually live in what is probably generally a much better place? We just hear so much more bad shit that we think it's worse? Well, I think we're just aware of way more information than we're supposed to be yeah yeah just overloaded overload and i think that's one of the reasons why so many people are anxious i think just our sheer numbers are wearing on like the way we feel i actually have developed like real anxiety just about fucking life which i think it's directly related probably to like my internet consumption you know what i mean oh for sure um i think accuse like social media of doing that of accentuating your interests you know this is the reason why so many people get in fights on

facebook oh yeah because when you because it amplifies the angry the more you get upset at things the more you interact so because of that they send you things that make you upset but isn't it that that's what you gravitate towards so ari shafir actually did a test yeah he did with puppies or something right and he just got all puppies yeah he just started searching puppies and guess what how long did it take for him to get all puppies it wasn't that long it was pretty quick so it's not that it's malicious on its own. It's that we are cunts. Yeah. We're cunts.

Yeah. It just, it's like, it's like a mushroom trip, right? Where it just, if you feel good, it spirals up.

And if you feel bad, it spirals down. It just, it's the same kind of thing. And it's so it's, but we can manage it. I think we can manage it. I think we just have to be nicer to each other.

I really do. I think people can manage it. It's so easy to be nice in person but it's so hard to be nice to some fucking you know to someone who opens with what a piece of shit you are and is like you know it's a poor way of communicating it's terrible it's not you can get great stuff from it but it also opens up the door to great cuntiness like the greatest cuntiness because it's like free shots of people and it's just weird to do it's like weird to just someone you don't even know just insult right but but they can do that to you and they feel free to do that to you and they don't think of you as another person they think of you as some person who's

in some public position so it's it's a free shot to just shit on you and they think you should have thicker skin they think this they don't realize that you get into a job like this because you're insecure for sure but it's also listen nobody saw this coming like we should all be nice yeah about there are this new level of communication that we all have you know we can see things on your phone that are coming to you from the air and they're streaming in real time i can't imagine what it's like to be a child who can grow up with the amount of porn that oh my god like i don't want to go into this kind of a tangent too far but like jesus christ what is going like you know when i was a kid you had to work for it right you gotta there's always someone's stepdad who had a big collection or

i had to do floppies i mean i was i was on some i was on the the hard the hard floppy discs you know yeah that's that was that was the 90s kid 90s it was still a challenge now way too easy it's weird right yeah like there's there's definitely there's definitely a concern there's a there's a there's also there's not just a concern. It's not just a concern that you have access to porn. How about the fact that porn has completely shaped the way people do their pubic hair? Porn won. Do you think porn reflects society or society reflects porn? I don't know, but if there was a culture contest to see how you you trim your pubes

porn completely went out definitely right you can't be a girl and just be chaos anymore right can you do that is that a is that a move you can it's a specific fetish for that you have to use ari shafir is gonna have to use different keywords to get to that find ari they'll find them what's what really weirds me out about porn is they've really transitioned to an all step siblings kind of i don't know what happened fucking this is gross it's like when did everything get dirty everything is this the result of divorce culture it's something it's something all the divorce the kids of divorces have grown up to watch step brother porn and whatever step brother and step sister is giant right now that's fucking gross it's like 90 of titles it's so weird you're supposed to be my sister

i can't believe this like what the fuck are we watching oh is there a more depressing job than writing that dialogue but why do people here's a here's a question why do people want to be so naughty like what is it because that's naughty well that's not new people wanting to be naughty that's not not new no but why upon why do they always want to push it you know people keep pushing it they want people gagging and choking and that's that's that risk shit dude it's the risk becomes the thing yeah a friend of mine is like in the music business and like you know he's like a recovering you know super junkie and had a theory that a lot of the celebrities who have died of autoerotic asphyxiation were former heroin users.

And once they get sober, the only way to get close is by jacking off with a fucking belt around your neck. Hey! And that seems to be a common thread in that maybe those deaths weren't exactly suicides. So there's maybe a conspiracy theory there. Well, if you were going to kill somebody, that would be a good way to do it well i don't think they were murdered i think they were suicide they're labeled as suicides if we're talking about like chris cornell and anthony bourdain you know it's a theory i guess well i mean i don't think that was the case of bourdain but it seemed the the argument is that people who have had the high of heroin, the only way they can get close to that without drugs is by doing that.

That's a crazy suggestion. It is a crazy suggestion. I don't think that's the case, but maybe not. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think that's the case. Maybe Epstein was trying to jerk off. I don't know.

Oh, Jesus Christ. Jamie's like, oh, I'm letting it go. I'm not even jumping in. I'm not even jumping in open up a horn yeah yeah uh i don't know how we got down the porn tangent it's probably my fault but what else you got buddy ending your ride it's a weird weird idea you know deciding to end your ride yeah it's probably something where people like feel like they don't have control over their life and they want to take it, maybe. I don't know, man.

I think some people just feel bad. They're just sad all the time and just wanted to stop? It just makes sense that if some people are frail, in certain ways we just accept that. But if they're frail in their happiness, we don't. but if they're frail in their happiness we don't you know like if someone's born with some sort of a disease and this disease affects them we feel bad for them oh shit but if we're born is this a man like if you're born sad yeah does it make sense i mean that you could be born with like a shitty level of dopamine like your brain's not producing enough serotonin. Like something's, the wiring is not totally on.

Yeah. I've known my share of depressed and or bipolar and or borderline people. It's scary and sad. It is. But we have a weird aversion. It goes back to our like primate days. You know, we want to like like i want to get those people away from us i have a weird i had a weird thing for a long time where i wanted to fix them i was

a real fixer for a while and it's not a healthy place to be in that's a bad spot yeah yeah guy no you and it's that there's a if you want to be fix up guy that comes from a whole list of your own fucking issues trust me no no issues. Don't do that. No, no, no. Yeah, don't do that. No. I got married to the most amazing woman ever. I'm very lucky.

Hannah Rules. I saw you on your social media. It was my birthday the other day, like two nights ago. She got me Benihana lessons at Benihana. And then I went back later that day and I cooked at Benihana for like all my friends. It was like life goals achieved.

So they let you cook there? Yeah. They teach you how to cook and then they let you cook holy shit onion volcano the whole shit no dude it's a great volcano it's on my instagram it's a great gift how many how long are the lessons like an hour and a half it's not hard oh so you must be a cook already i'm already a cook yeah yeah and not only I a cook, I'm a huge hibachi enthusiast. Oh, okay. Oh, so you knew what the fuck to do. Fucking onion volcano, bro. So you've made one of them onion volcanoes before?

I practiced at my house because I was so excited. Oh, that is hilarious. You are hilarious. Look at this girl behind me because I popped a huge flame and she thought I was going to light my face on fire and she was right. I almost did. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah.

Fucking onion volcanoes, dude. That's a great boomerang right there. I know. That's one of the rare, truly great boomerangs. I think one of the top comments on that post is, this is the only good boomerang in the history of this. Look at this. The lighter fails, so I almost light my face on fire when I get it to work.

Yeah, no, look. Woo! Son. You almost lost some eyelashes i know fuck that but yo it's a really good birthday present my wife rules she got me axe throwing lessons one year she got me uh blacksmithing lessons one year she likes to get me fun lessons for things who's the expert out there throwing axes is there one dude fuck what's the guy's name jordan Jordan of axe throwing. Yes.

No, there is. Oh, shit. Oh, they're going to kill me for... He has a hilarious name in a DVD series and shit. Oh, really? Yeah. I want to say it's like Lester Diamond, but that's the guy from Casino. It's something like that.

If you Google knife throwing lessons LA, you might come up with it. That's hilarious. Now they have like... They've opened like knife and axe throwing bars now really this was two years ago but now you can like go like it's like a bowling alley but you throw axes oh my god ranked axe throwers in the world i don't want to be around a lot of dudes who want to throw axes you know you go into the axe throwing spot that's like some viking shit it's just darts right right? With axes, yeah.

Yo, there's a hilarious video from yesterday of Pete Buttigieg on the campaign trail trying to do an axe throw, but like outdoor. And he straight overthrows the axe, misses the target entirely, and hits the dude's drum in the marching band. Oh my God. He almost killed somebody. Imagine if he brained somebody like a Stephen King book. First.

Could you imagine? First presidential candidate to murder somebody with an axe on television. Oh my God. Can you imagine if he hit the dude in the head with an axe and the dude just stiffened? Yeah. If Trump did it, his supporters would probably like him more. He could really test that. Shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue Theory.

I've been on this. The video of the axe missing and hitting the guy's drum is crazy fucking funny i've been on this audio book native american kick uh-huh i i listened to two different ones and the one i'm listening to now is uh like history son of the morning star and uh my friend steve ranella recommended it to me holy shit dude just like i get nervous when i watch alex connell oh man look wait here's the it's not no oh i'm sorry i apologize i apologize mayor pete oh shit fox news goes pete esketh i apologize pete budaj my bad but a fox news host through a fucking axe and hit somebody Oh, shit. Fox News host Pete Hesketh. I apologize, Pete Buttigieg. My bad. A Fox News host threw a fucking ax and hit somebody. Oh, my God.

Yo, go with the... Oh, my God. Watch this shit. Oh, my God. You missed so bad. First of all, why the fuck is there a band playing behind the spot with a guy who throws an ax? Whose idea was that? Oh, dude. It's so crazy. Watch, watch. Look, it hit. Here's the other angle. Boom. It goes

in the drum. Dude, it could have killed him. It hit his arm. Oh, my God. It could have killed him. Oh, damn. I'm sorry, Pete Buttigieg. That was Pete Hesketh. Oh, sorry. The different Pete. But that's fucking horrible. You do some famous Pete.

I'm sorry. I watched on my phone this morning. So it's a Fox News guy. Imagine it was just a news guy who killed somebody accidentally with an axe. And not a presidential candidate. Just a news guy. Poor guy. He just sucks at throwing an axe.

Bro. Who set this up? Who put a band behind the fucking target? How trusting are you? How many practice shots do you think he took? None. Zero?

That's probably the first time he's thrown an axe. You're in New York too. Like how many people get to throw an axe in downtown New York? Fucking New York? You kill a guy

with an axe in New York. You think the DP was like, can you bring the band around? They're not in the shot. Let's get that band. Fuck, man. Jesus Christ. That's fucking bad. I'm sorry. I're not in the shot. Let's get that band. Fuck, man. Jesus Christ. That's fucking bad.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Mayor Pete. I thought it was you. The reason why I brought this up is this book is horrific. It's all these accounts of what happened between the settlers and the Native Americans. Oh, my God. It wasn't good. I listened to that podcast, The dollop uh which is like a history

podcast fucking the people in this that came to this country were so horrible to the people that were here it's so depressing yes yeah for sure it was horrible with disease it was horrible with just the amount of people that just came across the land they killed all the buffalo they they wiped literally every native american tribe out of power and they put them on reservations and violated the reservation was kansas right it just kept getting smaller and smaller and smaller dude there's a lot to it there's a lot to it it's amazing the stories like the stories of the different tribes are just amazing. Just the differences between the ones who lived in the East versus the Comanches who were mostly just traveling and living in teepees and following the buffalo. The ones in the East were more like permanently settled in kind of one place, right? Yeah, a lot of them were into agriculture.

They were growing. They didn't even really have use for horses. They weren't into horses. Didn't white people steal their farming techniques too? think probably for sure white people stole everything i'm reading a book called i think it's called history of the greater united states it's by i think that's correct but it's about all of like the u.s territories that are like outside of the continental united states and just like ways we fucked over native people and we you know they're part of america but they're not states so they don't have to they don't get to vote they don't

get to do anything just like we've used these islands and and countries and stuff strategically all over the world and uh it's a slog through it but it's it's kind of the kind of stuff you kind of gotta read right well you gotta you should probably know yeah Yeah. What are we doing? We're doing what? I feel like I went to very good schools. I went to a good college and a good high school, and I did not learn a lot of really important things. I learned a very winner-take-all version of history that I'm not pleased about. I missed out on everything. I wasn't paying attention to shit until I was like 28. Yeah, but now you pay attention to everything.

Yeah, but before then, I mean, all throughout high school, the time that I did spend going to college was only so that no one would think I was a loser. I was just... Was it that binary? If you're not in college, you're a loser, and if you're in college, you're not a loser? It was a huge insecurity with me because I knew I didn't want to do it. And I knew, like, whatever that led to like i don't i just i'm not interested i don't have the discipline yeah to sit in class and listen i was too spastic i wasn't interested so crazy that you can't sit in class and listen and yet you can do the double header three hour podcast that's not hard we're

talking about cool shit you're a cool guy you're fun to talk to it's not hard it We're talking about cool shit. You're a cool guy. You're fun to talk to. It's not hard. It's the way the material is delivered, huh? And the last one was, you know, what you'll see, but it's way more these two guys talking than me. I mostly moderated and mostly wound up agreeing with the guy who made the Game Changers documentary.

Mostly with what he was saying in terms of science, in terms of whether or not It's healthy to eat a 100% vegan diet According to everything he's showing me It is Yeah, according to everything he was showing me And he had as much science as you could You know, it's just a matter of doing it properly

After listening to Kevin Smith on your show I've considered trying to do like a vegan month Or a vegan week or something I haven't gone through with it yet, but I'm probably going to. I think it's different for different people too. I really do. I think some people have real issues with it. Some people have gotten off the vegan diet and they've quit.

I just feel like I should eat a little less meat. Really? Well, I mean, I think it's different for everybody too, man. I think some people can do it with no problems and I think other people struggle more. And I don't know why I'm not a nutritionist, but I know that a lot of people that wind up trying it out eventually give up. It's like 84%. I know a couple of ex-vegans.

Yeah. But I don't have like a moral judgment for it or anything. I just feel like maybe it's something worth trying because I eat a lot of meat. Yeah. And I'm trying to get, I have, you know, I wrote a business plan for my new place, as you do when you have a new business. And the first thing on the business plan is by my 40th birthday, I want to be the healthiest I've ever been. Well, I don't think cutting meat out is the move. See, this is what I think about all this. I think you could definitely be healthy and be a vegan,

according to everything this guy was showing me, everything James Wilkes was showing me. I don't really want to be a vegan. I like meat. I have no moral qualms with it, and I like how it tastes. I don't want to be a vegan, but I thought maybe if I did it a little bit, I could at least try. Health-wise. It makes a difference? No, I think the real thing to do is omnivorous diets.

No, I think the real thing to do is omnivorous diets. And I think this is one of the things that we proved today in this conversation between Chris Kresser and James Wilkes is that the omnivorous diet is like a natural healthy thing. You can do a vegan diet, though. You can do it right. According to everything he was showing me today, and I believe this, too, if you're just doing it correctly, if you monitor your nutrient levels, you take vitamin B12 supplement, which is something he advocates. I was like, that makes sense to me. But I don't believe that meat's bad for you. I think that sedentary lifestyle, shitty foods. People have been eating meat since the beginning of time.

This is how we became people and literally one of the primary um theories for why the human brain got so big so quick we started hunting we had more access to protein because we were cooking things with fire and we we learned how to hunt better because we our brains kept growing as we're just figuring out the throwing arm they think is a possible factor like somehow another the ability to throw something at something and kill it made us much more productive as hunters. We can kill from farther away. That's key.

Bro, we're so weak. Oh, compared to animals? Yeah, yeah, yeah. An animal would fuck us up. Any even small-ish animal would fuck us up so bad. A deer will kick your fucking ass, man. A deer just kicking at you? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, my God. Yeah. I get it. We need some need to we need some help we need some weapons i wonder what we were like though i mean imagine going back and seeing what a person was like when we started becoming people how fucking freaky would that be like see i feel like we'd be like scared of everything oh my god just real scared but like what would it be like to just hang out in a tribe of neanderthals and see what

they were like a different kind of person yeah i wonder if it would be i mean like mentally freeing you know what i mean you're singularly focused on food and shelter and not you know i don't know if you have the you're you know you don't have a lot of like the fucking worries that we have but it could be awful simple but at the same time the constant fear of starving and freezing to death that would be shit all of it's bad everything's bad we're gonna get don't worry we're gonna get there dude we're gonna end up in water world pretty fucking soon yo which all right what future movie from the last 30 years do you think our current reality is the closest to the matrix really the matrix because you were living in a simulation you think it's gotten so weird that it doesn't matter whether or not we're living in a

simulation because life itself and reality itself is almost all augmented with some new factors like technology like whatever the technology is that we're using to communicate with all these people yeah the fact that you can't stop checking your twitter i want to check yeah somebody say something cool what's new who's got a fucking new video i could watch to distract me for 15 seconds who burt and tom are in a dance off look at this and you're just constantly looking at the goddamn thing yeah i am trying to i'm not doing well at it but i gotta i gotta fucking get my phone out of my fucking hand that you know what's a good guilt shamer is that little status thing that's like oh you've been on your phone for five hours and change. You know what they're like?

Those are like the cigarette warnings to tell you you're going to get cancer. You're like, somebody else is going to get cancer. Not me. I'm not addicted to my phone. I know. I am. I feel like I am. And I justify it to myself sometimes by saying, well, I have a virtual job and I have to be doing this for work.

But I think that's not true a lot of the time. I think it's not true a lot of the time. I think it's good to definitely give yourself some distance and some time away from it but i also think it's fascinating because we i don't we don't know where this is going yeah we don't know what this is going to be like in x amount of years from now it's really dangerous that these companies have so much control over the information that you see and that your news feed and someone's news feed on the other side of the country or whatever could be just so much different. You're literally looking at different facts. It's fucking crazy.

It is crazy. It is very crazy. I don't even know how you reconcile that unless like people voluntarily take responsibility is it is it possible to decide that facebook and twitter and whatever are like public utilities well that's what people have proposed that we we treat it like anything that you know that everybody kind of should have access to and we protect it under the first amendment yeah that's the idea i think that what's the net neutrality status right now today i know it was like getting fought back and forth did it end did it end up anywhere i don't know do you remember when they used to have a terrorist um like a color yeah orange

yeah like code orange yeah we'd be all walking around like what are we are we in code orange or yellow did it get to yellow yeah somebody had a bit about that was it you i'm sure i did i think i remember bits of someone's bit about the code i don't think i ever put it on anything i don't know what i just had it when we had one i think there was a few comics that had a bit on that too that might have been part of the issue it was one of those things where everybody was like recognizing how ridiculous it was yeah it was we had codes we have the fire the fire code now here you know how the fuck can you give me a code of terrorist attack or no terrorist attack what are you supposed to do about it actually you're getting me closer to a possible terrorist

attack okay and you don't even have to tell me what's going on that's that's where it gets crazy when it when it goes from orange to red what do i do exactly what do you do they don't even have to tell me what's going on. That's where it gets crazy. When it goes from orange to red, what do I do exactly? What do you do? You can come to Westside Collector Car Storage. It's like a bunker. Oh, it's like a bunker. Designed to survive at 12. Yeah, that's a good place.

It's a good place to hide out in case it all goes down. For sure. I can see us bolting that store down and fucking fighting off zombies. Do you ever watch those zombie shows? I am familiar. i had to stop this is just violent porn right it was weird and then you start shopping for zombie apocalypse is that you ended up with that land cruiser out there yeah zombie apocalypse start thinking how would i fuck this zombie up what would i do if i was rick i you know what i live i live down by the beach and so for me me, I legit am like, what am I going to do when the tsunami comes?

Oh, that's a thought. I'm just waiting for the tsunami. Dude, get out of there. What are you doing? Don't you know better? Get the fuck off the water, man. Yeah, right? Come on.

You're a nice guy. I don't want to lose you. I'm actually waiting for waves to just come straight through my house. Beachfront Pasadena, son. Get that high rise. Buy some land up y not front row just wait just wait that's a what the fuck happens then if your address doesn't exist anymore right right like we all know that they find these ancient civilizations underneath the ocean i mean but we they do find i mean they don't find that you know they've never found atlantis but they do find, I mean, they don't find that, you know, they've never found Atlantis, but they've found some pretty cool shit

under the ocean. Yeah. Do you ever see those things they found, I think, in the Bahamas? It's like these stones that look like, it looks like a passageway, like cut stones. Cut into the ground.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. These gigantic stones looks like some sort of an underground passage or an underwater passageway. It seems like, I remember that. I think at one point there were probably entrances made of wood or something that have rotted away. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Underground stones, yeah. I don't know. Did they identify that those, did they think those were man-made? Did they think that they're man-made or are there scientists that think that that's a natural thing? There's a portion of that that is absolutely man-made, I think. It're man-made or are there scientists that think that that's a natural isn't there there's a portion of that that is absolutely that's it's called bimini road yeah bimini road yeah so is that for sure man-made i i could swear portions of it are that's cool as fuck though this i don't know i this is reminding me of something i just heard recently that i did never it's never come up on here from what i remember that there's like a

stonehenge type structure on the bottom of lake michigan that people found recently really what that's awesome what the fuck joe's conspiracy radar just went off the fucking kind of ones i like too i don't like conspiracies about epstein lake michigan stone look at that people are still alive that's pretty there's a lot of weird pictures i've seen of this trying to look up to think that there's like a mastodon carved. I don't think that's the actual one. Whoa. I think someone added to this.

That looks like it was done in spray paint in 2018. I think it's more like this. It doesn't look like a fucking cave drug. I think it's that. Oh, it's that? But I just stumbled across this online while we were on break last week, and I was like, what? I've never heard of this.

I need to start using some of your guys keywords to start searching for shit i feel like my keywords are are narrow when i'm doing my my internet this fucking time wasting and i'm i'm not getting the kind of results you guys are getting this book that i've been listening to is so intense man the indian one all makes me think about is like how all this shit must have been when it went down just the bloodiness of it oh my god it's horrific on both sides oh terrific horrific just terrifying stories of massacres who recorded the stories people that survived people that wrote letters to their loved ones that you know they they piece things together find out what happened. Crazy. They get their best story, the best story they can get about Custer's last stand and what he was like.

Woo, dude. That's 150, 160 years ago. That's nothing, man. That just happened. I know. It's real recent. Those fucking people were just like us, but we have iPhones. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Those crazy people. I might have, but we have iPhones. Exactly.

Yeah, yeah. So those crazy people. I think I might have told you this last time I was here. I don't remember that. I met Dick Van Dyke. Holy shit. Which was surreal and weird. I think he's 92.

Wow. But the most surreal and weird thing he told me was that his grandmother shook Abraham Lincoln's hand. Oh my God. So like that's, you know what I mean? The grandmother of somebody alive right now. I did tell you that. I think it's fucking amazing. I think,

cause I think it just happened when I was here. Dude, like possible. And I think there's a president, uh, like the eighth or 10th president or something right now that had like, has like a living grandchild. What the fuck?

Yeah. Like had kids at 75, had kids at 75 had kids at 75 it's it's it's fucking crazy that's not that long ago that's people just like us with none of the information that we have it's so recent yeah you know there he goes lion gardener tyler senior two of his own children still alive so president tyler has living grandchildren john tyler 175 years ago that's fucking nuts i had a bit on my special my last special where i was talking about that the united states is founded in 1776 and people lived to be 100. That's three people ago.

Yeah. Like, we don't want to think of that. Yeah. But that's really what it is. Yeah. Fuck all this generations talk. That's confusing. Yeah.

How many people ago? Like, birth to death. It's not a lot. They are the same as us. 300 years. No tech. Yeah. If you're going to gauge it like like a car what's your zero to 60

and it's 100 years from 100 years ago yeah it's like three people ago it's fucking crazy with a full that's like a full elon musk tank right because like if you burn it out you're not gonna live to be 100 yeah but some people do get to be 100 so you got 100 miles on that fucking charge there's cars around now they were built 100 years ago yes and they work you can drive them yeah a friend of mine has many they're kind of fun actually dude it's um it's that's a weird concept right yeah the going from the horse to where we're at now in no 100 years is bananas in no time yeah yeah which is why like you know i i believe like that like electric cars are awesome and they're cool and and i think that in places like really dense urban areas where

where you have a significant number of them you get cleaner air and all that kind of stuff um but i i just don't know if that's necessarily what our future requires, because I think that the big industries have sort of done this, well, if everybody does our little part and we all buy an electric car and recycle, we can solve this. When it's really sort of like maybe a few less cargo ships would be would be a big a big difference maybe like guaranteeing stuff gets from china to you in 12 hours is not really what we need at the expense of our environment and if that's the i don't think you need to like you know have everybody needs to go buy an electric car i don't think that's really necessary well there's a lot of shit that needs to be done right like we got it whatever the fuck is going on the ocean yeah we got to get people to feel about the whole ocean the way we feel about turtles and straws if we could if we could

just get that sentiment and apply it to all apply it to our neighbors apply it to everyone you meet it's weird i think americans have a really tough time taking care of communal shit yeah but i can't find a fucking plastic straw anymore i know it's amazing i know how quickly that happened the plastic turtle the dude with the pliers he's pulling out of the turtle's nose and eventually comes out with all this blood and everything like that. You need an ugly photograph of a cute animal to really make things happen. But I walked,

I literally walked to the gym this morning and from my house to the gym, I walk across the Venice canals and I saw two bird scooters just in the canals. Just, so it's like,

you know, people just can't take care of their shit. That's why you can't have like shared stuff. No. Like the idea of these like shared

kind of like pods i don't really think is going to happen i think people shared pods like you live yeah like like you know a lot of the zombies that are low on resources minority report you know where you commute to work in a pod oh you don't think that's gonna happen like flying through the air and shit the taiken makes the jetsons noise no when you drive Taycan makes the Jetsons noise. No, it doesn't. When you drive it, it makes the brrr. Really? Yeah, it does make Jetsons noise. Does it do it for you?

Like, as a joke? Or does it make real noise? No, it does it out of the speakers as a fun thing. Oh, so it's brrr? I feel like you can let it slide. You know why? Because it's not pretending to be an engine. No, no, no.

It's not. It makes an appropriate noise for the thing that it's doing. It's kind of offensive if it made an engine noise. You'd be like, hey, hey, stop. Although I think, did Elon ever come out with, did Tesla come out with something that would fake engine soundtracks while you're driving? Really? Maybe it does.

Somebody came up with something that you can put in your car and it will play different engine soundtracks i think while you're driving tiffany haddish made her fucking car dance in what way the the tesla has a feature oh where it opens the doors and shit and does lights and stuff the one with the yeah yeah she plays music in the back of the comic store and and and hits the the dance and steps out and she's dancing in front of her car we're all dancing we're dancing in front of tiffany addison's car you know dancing for us that's the the difference between porsche and tesla is like tesla's it's like a meme machine it's like a phone that you're driving you know it's it's it's it's fun and it's silly and

and especially the model x is a very optimistic representation of the future. What is that? Pedestrian noisemakers. Yeah. What is that? So that's a different thing, I think. The Taycan doesn't really make any noise on the outside. It makes the noises on the inside.

If we're going to have noise that it makes on the outside, we better regulate that immediately. Because some dudes are just going to have screams. We better regulate that immediately Because some dudes are just going to have screams They're just like If you can just decide What noise your silent thing makes How the fuck should you say

It has to sound like a Corvette I had a Chevy Volt that had two horns It had on the steering wheel the Angry horn and then at the end of the Blinker stalk it had this really Polite like trill For like pedestrian for that would go like like a like a cat purring almost it was very polite um it's just weird that we let people drive

it's weird that we just we trust each other like when you're on the highway and everybody's keeping it together it's weird that we just all know to keep it together there's a there's a really interesting fallacy that that gets passed around a lot, which is that humans are bad drivers. And that's combined with another fallacy that driving is easy. Both of those are untrue. Humans are actually very good drivers and driving is very hard. And the problem is that humans are so easily distracted. And we now have this device that is designed to distract us that's with us all the time. Dude, how often do you look up when you're driving and you see someone on their phone?

Oh, on my scooter. When I'm riding my motorcycle around town, that's all I do is I'm looking in mirrors and seeing who's not paying attention. Ed Norton still rides a motorcycle. I know. I was listening to him talk about that. He was talking about looking down, watching people. How crazy is that guy? The key to riding a motorcycle in L.A. is to understand that it is your job to be more prepared than everyone in a car.

I think mostly he rides in New York City, though. Yeah. He was a little more – he wasn't as kind to riding in L.A. as I am. I think riding in L.A. is not that scary. And I think that because you can lane split here, it makes a big difference. It's way safer to lane split here um it makes a big difference it's way safer to lane split yeah yeah way safer because most uh car on motorcycle collisions are actually rear endings at lights people can't tell the difference between the bike and the car and they crunch them

and so if you're lane splitting you move to the front of the line in traffic and so you don't get those rear endings the problem with lane splitting is it sometimes people look like they're gonna go and change lanes and they look behind them and then when they look the motorcycle is going so fast they're already there well you shouldn't be going that fast shouldn't be going that fast i've seen some guys that are doing some crazy shit on bikes splitting lanes it's like come on the law says 15 differential 15 between cars between your speed on the bike and cars. Oh, well, that's not real. I mean, that's just what the law says.

I don't know. Yeah. But you can't even catch them. Yeah. Yeah. I saw some dudes the other day on the 405 that made me so nervous. Yeah. Crazy sport bike people.

Come on, man. Yeah. Crazy sport bike people will be crazy sport bike people. But that thing, if you can manage that thing, one of those fucking things, your reality is so different than anybody else's. Yeah. Right? Have you ridden bikes ever?

No. Never. I mean, very little. Very, very, very little. I took some lessons. But two people I know crashed and got hurt pretty bad. Yeah. And one of them was a dude who was fighting for the UFC.

His name was Frank Muir. He was a UFC heavyweight champion. Dude who's got one of the best guards in the history of the sport. Arguably one of the best submission fighters of all time in the heavyweight division. You know, world champion. Still fighting or after the accident, though? He is, but he got hit by a car and got launched into the air, man. And he almost lost his leg.

It was a serious break, man. Yeah. Well, if his leg got crunched in between car and motorcycle engine yeah that's that's really bad dude he's a gorilla he's a giant dude no it's for him it's gnarly man i i i motorcycling is a very is risky it's it's for me it's a pretty calculated risk i'm riding a little scooter. When you ride a scooter versus a motorcycle, you don't get that leg crunch thing, actually. And, you know, it is what it is. You just got to have eyes up.

You got to be ready. And you got to be, you know, you can't, like, have a beer and ride home. You could feel it. You can't do it. I mean, you shouldn't. But even if you, you know, legally, you still shouldn't feel it. You can't do it. I mean, you shouldn't, but even if you legally, you still shouldn't do it. And also, I love, love that I can't pick up the fucking phone on that bike. That half hour on my little scooter, getting my way through traffic to wherever I'm going,

that's a nice break from the fucking phone. And being able to just be in motion in LA and you're just going, even if you're going slow, 10 miles an hour, everyone around you stopped and you're moving. That's the fucking luxury, man.

That's what I'm about. I'm about being moving when other people are stopped. That's for me. That's what's up. Might be time to move. Might be time to have to hire a crew. Take care of your machine with all the giant building with all the cars in it that's what's up. Might be time to move. Might be time to like have to hire a crew. I know.

Take care of your machine with all the giant building with all the cars in it and just get out of here before it blows up. It's hard. It's a hard dichotomy.

LA if you want to do the job I have LA is kind of where you need to be. It's the spot right? Bro I you know I can get a press car I can get an 800 horsepower

supercar press car in January if I wanted. You can't do that in back in New York. Who drives more cars than you? I've reviewed over 1,000 cars. That is so crazy. It's a lot. Well, that's why you developed all these oddball tastes.

That's why you have that wacky Porsche interior. I mean, that's where all that comes from. It could really make sense. I have the weirdest cars, dude. I only have strange stuff. I have my... A Fox body Mustang. I sold that. You did? I did. I got a lot of money for it. I gave half the I just got. A Fox body Mustang. I sold that.

You did? I did. I got a lot of money for it. I gave half the money to charity. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah. We paid an animal shelters rent for a year. Oh, that's cool.

Shout out to Peter Zippy Fund if you want a kitten in the South Bay. I just got, me and my wife just got a 1991 Mitsubishi Delica, which is a Japanese import van. Oh, shit. mitsubishi delica which is a japanese import van oh and it's a turbo diesel it's a four by four and it's a six passenger it has like swiveling captain's chairs and it's just the coolest thing ever there it is wow look at that look at that um and it is it's it's like a space van dude back in the day that was the shit yeah it's got's got 40,000 kilometers on it. It's like 22,000 miles. And I'm using it as the airport shuttle for my shop. That's very, like, that's what we thought of as a car from the future in the 80s.

Yes, space van. Like, if you were living in the 80s, remember when, I want to know what the fuck happened to custom vans. Like, in the 70s, it was the shit, right? Now custom vans are a new thing. so now custom vans have gone two directions on the one direction you've got your the private jet vans right the lexani like you see fucking tyrese rolling and rolling around in right where they make it kind of look like a private jet interior with the sprinters and then you've got your overland vans like your sports mobiles

and your camping type rigs your off-roading rigs so they split they don't do the cool shag carpet let's fuck anymore kind of van they don't have those there's a magazine called rolling heavy magazine that is a enthusiast magazine for that kind of van that's hilarious that's hilarious yeah vans are still uh they're cool with a certain subculture those volkswagen synchros the four by four volkswagen vans from the 80s yeah are worth a ton of money Vans are still They're cool with a certain subculture Those Volkswagen Syncros The 4x4 Volkswagen vans From the 80s Are worth a ton of money

Like 50 grand What? Yeah they're worth a lot of money Dude it's hilarious when They take those bugs Those What is the station wagon The VW bus

Yeah yeah And they put Porsche engines in them Oh you ever seen them guys racing? Juice them up Yeah They put They take the old vans From the 60s and 70s, the classic Volkswagen microbus, and then they basically graft on a Porsche floor plan to it with a Porsche engine, which will fit Porsche suspension, and they go fast as fuck, dude.

They race some things in Germany. Can you pull up anything of- There you go. I want to see one of those things. At Hockenheim. Look, this dude's just straight... Oh, my God. Look, this guy's following a Ferrari down the front straight.

Oh, my God. This guy's mobbing, and he chopped the roof, right? He's lowered it. If you can get some in-car video of one of these guys driving, it's like bananas. What a crazy little vehicle. Yeah, there's other ones that are even nuttier. And, oh oh there you go Close ups

They're just crazy Some of these Volkswagen guys Oh wow he's really using the whole course there Good for him So that's a 530 horsepower Porsche 993 Race taxi Oh how cool he's got

Gabriel Iglesias Is Fluffy a fucking van enthusiast jesus christ bro what are you doing fluffy whoa fluffy's garage is fucking sick dude the fluffy museum this is real fuck in long beach this is here how have we never heard of this bro this is a real thing this is a real thing look at this wow he must have really loved these things growing up that's hysterical that is crazy how many does he have a lot well that orange and red is fantastic that's really nice i had no idea fluffy was a vw bus enthusiast oh we've got to get him in one of these how strange is that people that are into those are really really into those seinfeld's got a few of them too how many he has three million dollar

bus collection well that is bananas yeah and you know they sell those like if you want like a the 21 window they call it or the 23 window that's where it's got the extra windows on the roof the total number of windows is the normally is like 17 or whatever, but the 21 windows and the 23 windows are like $100,000 to $150,000. What? Yeah. Wow. Just because they're rare and nostalgic.

Dude, look how beautiful he has these things restored. Yeah. You ever drive one? God, no. The worst. They drive like shit. They drive like fucking garbage. So do you think he has everything stocked, or do you think he has them juiced up?

I don't know. I mean, an enthusiast, I didn't realize he was so serious about those, but I'm sure he's got a nice variety of them. He's got Jay driving. Jay knows his shit, man. I had a real fun day hanging out with Jay doing his show. He knows his shit. He's a good dude. I did his show with my 1965 Corvette.

How is that thing working? I saw it outside. I like the wheels you've got on it. It's great. Yeah? Yeah. What are you driving the most these days? Just the Tesla?

Yeah. The Tesla does kind of eliminate a lot of other driving, doesn't it? A lot of the nonsense. Like, why am I fucking around here? I know. Because it's just so easy. I know am I fucking around here? I know. Because it's just, it's so easy. I know. It chills you out.

I know. It makes you, I mean, there's something exciting about the roar of an engine, right? There's something about engines. There's something really like something about it. But there's also something about this sort of zen travel thing that goes on when your car doesn't make any noise. Yeah. There's a zen thing. Yeah. And I think it calms you down a little bit. It does. It does. You get, you're a little more relaxed when you car doesn't make any noise. There's a zen thing.

I think it calms you down a little bit. It does. You're a little more relaxed when you get to where you're going. You're quiet inside. Also, part of that is, well, a lot of that is just you don't really realize how harsh the vibration of an engine is until

it's gone. Even a very smooth engine with a very smooth gearbox sends a lot of vibrations and jerkiness through the car and when it's gone especially with the tesla where you're driving with the one foot we're driving with one pedal so now it's like you go from wow i need to use three pedals and two feet and an arm to a finger and one foot you know you're you're physically doing a lot less but you used to say that you liked your portion to go to the comedy store because it like juiced you up you

still feel like that yeah i like i like something loud something that's just stupid yeah you gotta get in the zone yeah but it just gives you like a little bit of a just like a kickstart yeah you don't even have to drive fast it's not about that it's about what it can do it's like you're taking it out for this like it just moves better moves around corners better it's grips the road better it feels more more mechanical yeah my 911 is kind of like that but in it's actually got the the elements of like a baja truck also so you could just fucking smash speed bumps and like you know those weird transitions into driveways here that everybody hates in sports cars you're gonna take them on

an angle and all that yeah boom straight in on the power just kind of bounce it a little bit you could drive off of curbs and shit it is so fun it's all those things you love about your car but also the things you want in like a trophy truck jesus christ it rules wow so great you should be a salesman i am no i don't get kickbacks but but you should everybody should buy an off-road porsche it's fucking great hilarious yeah of all the recommendations there's a lot of people out there good consumer advice you stay in school and get your shit together jordan peterson says to clean your room dude you don't want to come for me for good consumer advice. Get a Safari Porsche.

I'll tell you to buy some stupid shit. I only have stupid cars. I love the fact that you dumped so much money into that Mustang. Because that's the... No disrespect to anybody. That's okay. It's true. What I feel is the second ugliest version.

It was kind of unique at the time. It wasn't ugly at the time. You and Rutledge spent mad time talking shit about my Mustang. It was. and ugliest version it's it was kind of unique at the time it wasn't ugly in the human rudledge spent mad time talking shit about my mustang it's just an odd choice because you you're a connoisseur of automobiles right like in my mind i'm like why wouldn't he get like a 68 mustang i don't have a connection to those cars you know yeah i was i was i was born in 81 so i so to me the mustangs of my youth were that was my car larry chen shot that photo that does look pretty dope um oh the car was beautiful man that that was a beautiful car and i did dump a lot of money into it but i turned i

got on the cover of car craft magazine i had a speech a feature in speed hunters and i and i got all my money back out of it Even after I gave half the money to charity So I got out of it pretty good It's fantastic And you deserve every penny of it It drove really nice too Look at the suspension

Like the way it sits rather The ride The fat wide tires Got the right stance Those are awesome wheels too What are those wheels? The wheels are HRE RS 105s Which is a really popular wheel for the Ford GT.

They use those. So that's probably the cheapest car they've ever been on. Can I get a side picture of that? The wheels retail for like 12K. They're really expensive. Yeah, yeah. That's so pretty. Yeah.

I mean, I'm sure if Joe Rogan wanted a deal, we could probably get something worked out with HRE. That's so pretty. That car was so cool. But after it was done, that picture you just saw is it done, basically. And once it was done, I was like, oh, fuck, man. This thing handles so good and it looks so cool. It could really use like 300 more horsepower.

It was like 300 horsepower, 350 horsepower. And it really needed to be like 600. It was like 300 horsepower, 350 horsepower, and it really needed to be like 600. And so I was at the point where I either was going to spend two more years and $20,000 more, and maybe I'd be happy with what I got at the end, or it was just time to move on. And about the same time, I drove Lee Keen is the name of the dude who built my Porsche, and he builds and sells those. Mine is number 14 of the dude who built my Porsche and he builds and sells those mine is number 14 of the cars he builds I drove his for a video and I just was so in love with it and I

just said oh this is exactly the thing that I need in my life right now and so when I sold the Mustang I gave the money to Lee Keen and got a lifted 911 that's a good consumer advice took that as your daily driver. Yeah. That's what I love. In combination with the scooter and the test cars I have. But that's hilarious. Yeah. Your number one squeeze is this Safari 911 from 1987.

I didn't spend all that money to look at it. There you go. Yeah, right? If I spent all that money, it has no collector value, right? It's just the value is what I get out of driving it. Isn't it shocking when you open one of those old Porsches, the heft to it, the surprising heft? The solidness of it. Yes.

Yes. I mean, those galvanized Porsche bodies from the 60s to the mid-90s are some of the finest built vehicles in terms of quality and engineering. Now, they're expensive to maintain. They can be annoying. But as far as pure quality of engineering, there's nothing better. It's probably the finest car in the world from a quality perspective through most of its life. The 964 is a really unusual one for me because that year was like they still kept the frog eyes. Yeah.

But the suspension became more lively, a little bit more controllable, but yet it still maintained a lot of the old feel. Yeah. At the time, those cars, if you go back to 92 when those cars came out, or 91, and you read sort of the contemporary reviews of the car, they were calling it old, slow, and heavy. They said it was a solid-feeling car, but the Corvette ZR1 was way faster and lighter, you know what I mean? And the Ferrari, let's see, well, the 348 was a piece of shit but um the fuck else 92 some of the japanese stuff the supra the 300zx twin turbo you know these were modern cars with with turbo chargers and you know all this new cool shit and here was this sort of well that's 911s really still sort of the same since the 60s you know and so that kind of dragged on. But to revisit those cars now, the fact that they were unchanged from the 60s to the mid-90s is a positive.

It's an endearing quality. It's such a – they developed that body and chassis so thoroughly over those 30 years that it's such a finely engineered thing that you can take it and build something like a singer out of it a singer 911 it is as like i remember their regular car right is as fast around laguna seca as a ferrari 458 with no traction control and manually shifting yeah yeah yeah i mean they've done wonders with those chassis and they've really lightened them with carbon bodies and and so it is possible to take that chassis further it just would have cost porsche porsche lost so much money in the 90s dude porsche was really hanging on by a thread and they were losing money like crazy until volkswagen and group came in and that's where you ended up with the water-cooled cars, the Boxster, and then the Cayenne.

Wow. But in the 90s, when they were doing the 993s, they were losing a crazy amount of money on those cars. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. It's a weird car, right?

It's like they stuck with that crazy design for so long. Yeah. It feels old. It feels like 25 years older than it really is. And yet it is so finely made. Yeah. So interesting. Right.

So a strange combination, right? As opposed to something like- That's a crazy one. That's a 993 GT Carrera RS. Ooh. Delightful. Yeah, it's very nice. That's a beautiful car.

So if you look at the passenger compartment, the roofline, the windshield, the side windows of those cars, you know, that's basically unchanged from the 70s to the late 90s. It's such a pretty shape. It's just like some shape that people just gravitate towards. And it's a shoe. Particularly the really old ones. There's something about an old one when you see them in person. Like if you see a really nicely done like 71 long nose. Yeah.

There's something about them. They're so light. They're kind of airy about them. I think of all the classic cars, they are the most usable to just run around the city and drive. You can drive a car from the 70s. Magnus fucking drives that car. He drives cars from the 70s like no

problem you could do that dude magnus had this car that he sold some rock and roll star in england he had this uh silver with blue stripes and it was like a 69 or something like that i think i remember that car yeah oh my god that car was a magic thing he's got he's got cool taste there's a video of him like it, going around this corner. He had that video that they made about him. It's like a little short documentary. The Urban Outlaw documentary. That's it.

That's it. And he comes around in this old school silver Porsche. And you look at it like, that's a whole different thing he's doing than everybody else. And he's not even driving fast. You don't even have to drive fast in that thing. It weighs, what does it weigh? I mean, 2,500 pounds maybe. It's so light.

Maybe. And it doesn't have a lot of power either. Well, one of the things I love about my car is with the lift on it and the tires, you've got less grip than a normal 911. So if nobody's around, I can slide entrance ramps. I can be a silly bastard in that car. And it's just extra fun. Look at this. Oh this oh yeah that is the

silver car with the blue yeah that's an excellent car cool yeah even when you hear the engine it doesn't sound like anything else yeah it's a weird little mechanical creature yeah because of their small displacement that's probably a two or a two oh or a two two you know it's not like this big bore three eight like you've got or you know i've got a three two which is a bit more of a bassy kind of tone yeah the older engines have a higher pitch small it's like really those ones are so 60s ones are little god damn but they're still pretty big inside like it's the same size inside as your car like you could get in it and drive it and it's like even those 356s the really old porges in the 50s, those are actually kind of roomy.

When you put that engine in the back, yeah, your feet can go pretty far forward. Germans are pretty big people, too. Yeah. One of the things with Porsche specifically is about tall people fitting. Yeah, they got barbarian DNA, man. Right? And the CEO of Porsche for a very long time was 6'4", and so he demanded... That's why Panamera looks like it does, so that a 6'4 person can fit in the back.

It's exactly that reason. Oh, wow. Yeah. What'd they do with the back seat of the 911s, though? Those are ridiculous. Well, those are for kids or whatever. Little kids, too, man. I think that's an insurance thing.

I think by being a four-seater, you might be able to... Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. That makes sense. I just don't have rear seats, though. I mean, you could have a friend get in the back of your 911 for a couple of blocks. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. That makes sense. I just don't have rear seats, though. I don't think you do. I mean, you could have a friend get in the back of your 911 for a couple of blocks. Yeah, yeah.

It's possible. But it's more like you just, you know, you throw your duffel bag back there or whatever. It's just too tight. It's too tight. But the ones you buy don't have rear seats. So what do you care? You buy the RSs. They don't have the rear seats.

If I drive like one of those cars especially the older ones like um you know like the 964 something i'd like the most stripped down ones that's what i like yeah yeah it makes sense the most like i don't want a radio i don't want i like a radio i don't want air conditioning nothing i use my car every day and so i have a radio and air conditioning but yeah i know what you mean but a car like that is like a little ride. Yeah. It's like you're taking a ride more than it is like you're driving. No, driving is the thing.

That's what you're doing. You're driving. Yeah. That's my Lamborghini I treat like that. I don't take that to do bullshit when I go out and drive that car. That is my activity. Yeah. So like a guy like Magnus, he you know what a normal person experiences when they're enjoying the pleasure of driving but he's getting a way more analog way more super light car yeah

it's all ancient fucking technology cars are real easy to drive though when you've got a little engine you can give a light clutch you can have a light shifter you don't need you know the more power you've got the heavier duty everything needs to be and so when you dial that stuff back and the car's 2 000 pounds and the engine's only 200 horsepower you can just fingertip the whole thing it's very easy yeah my friend todd said this to me it was a very wise thing he said it doesn't matter how fast you're going just matter how fast it feels totally he was talking about like old 9-11 thousand percent a thousand percent it's wise wise like it's a wise perspective because you go oh

yeah if you're just enjoying the car like you're supposed to get maximum enjoyment like it doesn't have to be attached to a number correct like if you didn't know how fast you're going you weren't looking at your car other than for the purposes of safety yeah yeah you weren't like it wasn't a dick contest there'd be a certain level you wouldn't want to drive at i believe i agree even knowing the speeds like for me personally yeah like my my cars have fairly low low power like they're not crazy huge power cars like and i think beyond a certain point i just can't use it anymore and so i think there's an argument for having something like a tesla for every day and then having a an engaging machine for the weekends one of my favorite videos that you ever did was that is it was it bbi that did yeah um oh joey

seely's car yeah you know that car's for sale is it really Yep You want it No That car's for That's a lovely car It's a beautiful car It is for sale It was called Project Nasty And I think he got it down to Maybe 2200 pounds It was

It's the lightest 964 I ever drove But it was so light It had no headliner Yeah No nothing All metal inside of it And everything

I remember watching it Going look at that thing Yeah But that's What you said Was really interesting Was that this is the kind of car you build when you you know you make cars for other people yeah yeah you want to build something for yourself you build something like the most focused kind of thing is that company's known for like these really high-end

like custom builds of porsches and they make crazy fast things. Dude, you can buy... You can write a check right now. You can just write a check, walk away, come back in two months and have a 1,500 horsepower 911. These guys race runways out here now. That's the thing now is runway racing.

They go out and they go side-by-side half mile and they're doing 220, 230 in the half mile. You ever see like 220, 230 in the half mile You ever see that video I'm sure you have Of the guy in the GTR in the Nürburgring And he just catches air Oh yeah

Dude Nürburgring contest sir That's fucking terrifying You should go drive a Nürburgring If you haven't you really should I just told you a guy fly Yeah but you wouldn't fly A guy would fly through the air

You wouldn't fly You would drive the Nürburgring in a Yeah, but you wouldn't fly. A guy would fly through the air. You wouldn't fly. You would drive the Nurburgring in a more normal car that doesn't fly. Yeah, I would drive something. And by the way, after that, they re-sculpted that section of track. Really? Yes. For a period of time, they imposed a speed limit, even during races, through that section to prevent that from happening again

they changed i believe the rules of the racing series to slow the cars down and then i believe um they re-sculpted the track there as well after that incident so they couldn't catch air like that or at least to make it substantially less likely yeah that fucking cars catching air is a you gooseneck then your next internet dive, Google race cars catching air. No! No! I'm going to attempt to look for that, but there's just tons. Yeah, you can't Google Nürburgring crash and not end up with...

People are going so fast, and people lose it all the time. Dude, it's such a fun, scary, crazy place. Every reputation, every bit of reputation it's earned it deserves and it's but you go to doing it is like one of the more unique experience of your life and you don't have to like you know like you said you don't have to go for time you can just go and drive it as a fast fun road which is what i've done as americans we should be ashamed that the germans have the Nurburgring. I mean, come on, people.

Hitler built it if we want to really be. Did he really? I mean, he didn't physically lay the asphalt, but it was a Hitler, it was a Fourth Reich superiority thing

right alongside the Autobahn. Best racetracks, best race cars, best highways is part of their deal. Wow. Well, that makes sense. There was so much engineering that came out of that group of fucking psychos.

Yeah. It's really amazing. Sad but true. Oh, speaking of which, I read a book you'd love called Blitzed, Drugs of the Third Reich. It was basically just about how much meth they were all on. And it is nuts. Of course. Yeah.

Of course. Yeah. Dude, they've been on speed forever. As soon as they figured out speed, people were on speed. And they're giving it to the pilots and the soldiers. Oh, yeah. And Hitler had a speed, he was doing speed balls like fucking John Belushi. I mean, it was crazy.

Yeah, and they always theorized that they had given the Japanese amphetamines to get them to crash into the planes. Yeah. Crash their planes into the boats, rather. Yeah. The kamikazes. Yeah. That was the thought.

Totally believable. They messed them up and fucking send them to war there's a story in this book about their they at the very end of the war where they invented these single person submarines imagine one basically just a floating coffin and they sent these people out with like 10 tablets of meth and nothing else and this little submarine that had a little gun and like none of them came back. I just can't. Not that I have sympathy for Nazis but messed up

soldiers in death submarines maybe a little bit. Is that what it was? That little thing? I don't think it worked. I think they tried a bunch of times and it didn't work.

Oh my God. It's the fucking sketchiest shit ever. Oh my God. Yeah. It doesn't get much Sketchier than that There is the one

With the little bubble On top Is it the German One man thing Yeah the little bubble On top That's it The picture I saw

Had the bubble Somewhere in Columbia There's a dude With a thousand pounds Of coke In one of those Right now He just got a great

Idea Making his way They had that video Where they had the Coast guard Knocked on the submarine That was crazy They had a cart where they had the Coast Guard knocked on the submarine. That was crazy. They had a cartel sub.

You ever saw that? They just knocked and said, open up. Was it the Coast Guard that got the guys? Yeah, they're like,

open the door. They're literally knocking on the top. Literally pulled up. Did they open up? Yeah. They jumped on top of a goddamn submarine

and made the guys open the sub. That's so crazy. Bro, it is bonkers. It's right out of a goddamn Steven Seagal movie.

It's crazy. That's fucking so nuts. It's right out of a goddamn Steven Seagal movie. It's crazy. That's fucking so nuts. They jump on top of the roof of this fucking submarine. Holy shit, look at this. Yeah. See, so they're chasing them. They're screaming. Oh my God.

Yo, this is the craziest shit ever, dude. Dude, how crazy is this? This is a drug sub. This thing's like, what, 25 foot long sub? Yeah. So these guys are following behind it and he jumps off look at this bad motherfucker so do you think do you think this sub is capable of full submerging or this is the closest to sub that it gets probably full it probably can't go down like 100 feet but maybe like holy fucking shit this dude straight up knocked on the door and they opened it that This is crazy. That's so crazy.

I need your search terms. You are finding way better things than me on the internet, bro. Who is taking subs and filling them up with coke and making their way to another country? How many dudes are doing that? They had that whole big ship in Philadelphia, that cargo ship that was supposedly owned by Chase, but had $ 200 or 400 million dollars worth of cocaine really there was one you know what the uh the dakar the paris to dakar rally is it's like a car race like cars like my safari are like built for that right and it's a there's these you know there's race cars and there's race motorcycles and quads and stuff

off-road vehicles that do very long off--road race. And then there's these support trucks, right? And they race the trucks too. So it's like these like Kamaz and like man trucks, big off-road tires, huge engines. And the trucks are in the race. And so these coke smugglers, the trucks, in the back of the truck is enough parts to like rebuild the whole car. And the truck has a racing driver and a five mechanics crew and they chase the car if the car breaks they fucking pull it over and set up a shop and rebuild the car right

but they're in the race too and so these coke smugglers bought one of these dakar race trucks did it up like the livery and just like a couple miles after the start, just like entered the race. They entered the race with this truck fucking full of blow. Oh, my God. It's a movie. And they got stopped, like, I don't know, somewhere in the race. They got arrested with this race truck full of coke. What is this, Jamie? It's El Chapo's Suburban.

That's El Chapo's? 13,000 pounds of cocaine. 13,000 pounds. I'm sorry. That's like 7.5 tons Wow Jesus Christ That is crazy

237 bales 237 bales of coke Oh my god Jesus 13,000 pounds Jesus This one was in Europe It had 100 million pounds worth

Oh my god These guys are just building this shit In their Tons and tons of them Yeah Reminds me of that What was that movie with Ray Liotta No Escape They built the sub Ray Liotta No Escape.

They built the sub. Ray Liotta and Kevin Dillon and that shit. No. Yeah what was that movie? No I think it was No Escape when they're on the prison island

and they build the sub to get out of there. Can they still make movies like that? I just saw I've seen some good movies. You see Ford vs. Ferrari? Ford vs. Ferrari is good.

I bet it's good. It's good. It's mostly factual. It's not entirely perfect but it's like more accurate than like bohemian rhapsody do you remember lamont steve mcqueen yes remember when he was driving in the beginning and that's old ass porsche yes that was exactly what we're talking about yeah i was a race car driver who's the car he drives around is that old 911 that car sold for a lot of money oh i bet from the movie it did that do you like lamont the movie um i don't remember it enough there's like no speaking for like the first nine or ten minutes yeah i think it's beautiful because it's like it really

puts you in the mood of what it's like to be these people without without saying too much they would do that in movies back then man you know yeah they they're really slow pacing kind of quiet sort of pensive thing you know you should go and watch if you haven't seen it before watch again the hustler never seen it jackie gleason and paul newman i've never seen it's amazing it's amazing for what reason it's just it's a fuck first of all it's uh it's in the 1960s like early 1960s and you're you're seeing like this part of america because this is filmed representing the time in which it took place it's not like they were doing a period movie so this is like 1960s like early 1960s cars and the way they talk

and the way they drink and it's about this guy who's a professional pool hustler who's been traveling from california to new york city to meet this guy the minnesota fats and play him because this guy's the best pool player in the world and so they play all through the night it's based on a i think was it robert rosen is that the said robert yeah you just said robert rosen yeah it's based on a a very you say paul newman is in this? Yes, that's Paul Newman, bro. Oh, fuck it is. Look at that. Dude. And Paul Newman plays Fast Eddie Felsen. He plays the baddest motherfucker in pool.

All right. Who wants to come and play Minnesota Fats. And Minnesota Fats is Jackie motherfucking Gleason. Yeah, it is. And he's amazing in this movie. He's so amazing, he's got two flowers on his jacket. Bro, that's a tie or a hanky rather i didn't realize that paul newman had multiple pool movies well this was the original and so what the color of money with

tom cruise was was fast eddie who was again paul newman getting back into the world of pool because the end of this movie spoiler alerts from the 1960s he retires any of this movie he retires so he comes back it's the same character okay all right yeah i've seen color of money yeah i've seen color of money but you know you're picking him up again now when he's 60 that's hilarious yeah so this young kid is talking shit and he doesn't understand that because he's a really hot pool player today but he doesn't understand that this guy in front of him is a legend. Yeah. Wait, I remember the name of his cue was the Balabushka. Is that right?

Exactly. Is that right? I can't believe I remember that. Balabushka was the type of cue that he had. And because of this movie, this movie in particular, because they didn't mention it in the first movie, but it was pretty clear they were playing with a Balabushka. This movie, that fucking cue is worth a shitload of money now. There's a lot of like great

pool cue manufacturers from that era like i know you like like crafts i do totally on the world of pool it's all about cues it's all about like the the the type of hit you want the type of wood waiting and the yeah and balabushka's have a very specific kind of hits. It's like there's an old school feel to it that a lot of the players that have been playing most of their life love. Are they still around? No. Oh. No, no, no.

If you're buying one now, it's going to be a shitload of money, man. At this point, it's an art piece. Would you play with it if you had one? Some people do. Some people do. It's like a badge of honor. You show up at a pool hall with a Balabushka. But it's not necessarily the best playing game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That a badge of honor. You know, you show up at a pool hall with a bow. But it's not necessarily the best playing gear.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like shotguns. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's cool. You get the art pieces and the vintage-y stuff. There's one right there for $22,000. 22 Gs! Fuck!

Yeah. Wow. Moving on that. Wow. Let me see what that looks like. Yeah, that looks like a bow. Is that a... Oh, it's got the string on it.

So that's the original Cortland wrap. And all that,lays that's mother of pearl yeah that was all done by ivory down in the bottom right no i don't think so i think that's this uh there's a type of uh that might be ivory actually if it's old enough that's probably it might be ivory it might be ivory you might be right 22g they would use a plastic down there because he wanted something to be durable. Yeah, bounce it on the ground or whatever. And they all used ivory that came from the pre-band days. Because back then when they were making these things, people could go over there and shoot elephants just for their tusks. What does that say? Ebony points?

What's it say? I don't know. Ebony sleeve. That's crazy. Gold bands, racetrack Mop what is that nameplate okay

Racetrack Mop nameplate that's blank between I don't know you lost me but that's pretty cool blank between the mop dots

and the diamonds original Cortland map mostly falling off two original George Balabushka shafts unusual feature that's a person's name that's interesting

oh yeah well they've had a bunch of those like that where people would buy them they would order them and he would engrave their name in it yeah yeah but it sounds like a very shotgun like thing shotguns are similar like that yeah yeah yeah like a lot of character and the wood you have to go you go over there and you choose your wood and the scroll work and the barrel work and all that crazy good friend of mine makes pool cubes. They're called Sugar Tree. His name's Eric Crisp and he makes them all by hand.

I'll show it to you afterwards. I'll let you play with it. I'm sure you've got like a dozen of them out here, right? It's his, the way he makes things is like super specific.

Like he's like a, he's an art connoisseur if wood was an art. So like when he looks at like a piece of wood, he doesn't think, it's like a combination of knowing it'll make

a good pool cue, but also wanting it to look a specific way. They have all these gnarly knots in them, weird kind of colors of the woods and just finds

interesting grain. It's like a, it's just like guns. Yeah, I'm sure. It's the same thing. What does it say here? That's cool. Bal Buschka pool cues

were reintroduced in the 1980s with their permission. Yeah, but that's not real. Yeah, once the movie came out, someone asked if they could license it. here? That's cool. Balabushka pool cues were reintroduced in the 1980s with their permission. Yeah, but that's not real. Yeah, once the movie came out, someone asked if they could license it. Yeah. Yeah, it's what happened was there was a company. It's a good, it's a decent cue, but it's not like a, you know, a real Balabushka.

It's like a Shelby Cobra, right? You can buy a replica Cobra, but the real one is the real one. You might even like the way that one plays better. I mean, there's people that like the way all kinds of different things play. It might play better, but it's not. You call it a Balabushka, Balabushka's got to make it. He's got to make it. He's not alive.

Same thing, Cobras. A brand new replica Shelby Cobra will probably drive a lot better than the ones they were racing at Le Mans in the 60s. But one is 50 grand and one is a million because one is real. And to be honest, that wouldn't mean I wouldn't buy one of those newer Balabushkas either if I wanted a cue to play with. No. They all play good.

As long as you know what you're getting, it's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing with cues is like with a lot of things, it's like if you see a pool cue, it doesn't even necessarily have to be anything fancy. It's just you see like if it's got nice wood and nice balance to it and you can kind of look at this like and you look at it you know somebody's made that by hand most likely some guy crafted that on a lathe and with watches too you know the difference between a five hundred dollar watch and a five

thousand dollar watch and a fifty thousand dollar watch and a $5,000 watch and a $50,000 watch and a $500,000 watch is just further and further into the details. That one watch that was good for 400 years, that's bananas. Yeah. And there's other ones like that. I have a hard time with that. Yeah. I'm having a hard time with that.

Crazy math machines. I love the crazy math machines. There's watches that play chimes. There's watches where you hit a button and a thing dances, like a cuckoo clock. There's all kinds of crazy shit people do. There's a whole genre of porno watches. Have you seen the porno watches? Jesus Christ.

Where it's literally you hit a button and people start banging. In front of you? Like on the watch dial. Like a hologram? No, no. Like a mechanical animatronic couple starts fucking on the dial oh well that's it's kind of hilarious but it's an entire genre of watches and they're very very expensive very hard to google that what's that one i saw this one guy had one that was like a dome and inside his own planet yeah yeah that's called a Jacob Astronomia and so anybody who wears that like you gotta be some they're a million dollars you gotta be some kind of pimp to have a planetarium on your forearm so do you remember

Jacob the jeweler that's him this is us this is the universe you can't wear one of those and have people look at you without you being a little crazy yeah so the astronomy it's it's like a fishbowl you put on your fucking wrist it's the weirdest thing ever and it's designed so that's the mechanism that rotates around the fishbowl and it's got something called the thing that's flipping about is called a torbion and that is the time regulating mechanism and the mainspring which keeps it wound and then as you can see the actual clock itself rotates and stays vertical and then you've got this earth thing and then you've got this this big diamond that spin around and it's it's a huge thing you wear in your wrist it's probably 48 or

49 millimeters and it's it's like putting a fishbowl on your wrist because it's a huge thing you wear on your wrist. It's probably 48 or 49 millimeters. And it's like putting a fishbowl on your wrist because it's got a big glass case over it. That is so crazy. So that's what one looks like in person. That is so crazy. Look at it. That's a million dollars. You get a million dollar fishbowl.

Oh, so this one he's showing is the roulette wheel one. No, it's got a roulette wheel in it. Oh, no, it doesn't. It actually works. Oh, my God, it does. You wind it up and it sends a ball and you actually can play roulette on the watch that's it's called the astronomy a casino yeah batshit right imagine you lose your house that look this one's an animated one it's an oil derrick that pumps oh so when they

spin it like i'm sure he'll show it but look yeah the oil derrick so did somebody design this because they owned an oil company i'm'm certain that that is what happened. And they had it made? Yeah. Oh my God, that's amazing. Yeah. How much do you think it cost to make that? It's probably a million dollars.

Of course it is. It's gross too. I wouldn't even want to touch it. No, it's not. You don't want to wear something like that. No, it's like- What are you talking about? Why are you getting it?

That's crazy. I don't know why I wouldn't get it, but if you... I don't know why you'd get it. You'd have to really appreciate the art of it. Look at what the fuck is going on there. Oh, it's a moon man floating. That does look gorgeous. The moon man is floating.

I mean, there's another company called MB&F, which is not as kind of dumb, for lack of a better word. It's just a little less flashy, and it looks like a fucking rocketeer, Trekkie space communicator, but it's all mechanical. It's called MB and ampersand F. And they come out. People are doing some real creative shit, Joe.

Oh, they really are. That's the kind of shit that made Dan Kaczynski move to the woods and become a Unabomber. He knew where all this was going. People can't leave anything alone. They have to innovate on everything, including watching. It's kind of okay, isn't it? Oh, it's really okay.

Look, it makes our life way more interesting. There's worse things than innovating in a mechanical timepiece, right? Oh, no. It's amazing. So this is MB&F. That's fucking gorgeous. This is where those two domes sort of spin around. They make a couple different crazy ones.

Oh, my God. That's beautiful. Yeah. So they have these sort of real spacey kind of alien device type watches. I mean, they're very expensive, but they're very. That is so gorgeous. That's 40 Gs. Let me see that again.

That is so pretty. The one with the four is really crazy G's let me see that again that is so pretty the one with the four is really crazy too what is that yeah so you can see on the left is the hour and the right is the minute

that's like a scale an old timey scale at grandpa's house that one this is my jam that's the space jam right there what is that

it's just crazy fucking watch making dude what is that yeah it's space machines how does that work back that up the one what is that

what the fuck so that one the you see the bottom left What is that? Yeah, it's space machines. How does that work? Back that up. The one- What is that? What the fuck? So that one, the- You see the bottom left- You better have a phone if you want to know the time. Yeah, this shit ain't for telling the time, bro. No, it's not. This is for telling everybody that you run shit. That is the craziest thing to have on your body.

Right? You got a house on your body. So in this one, the entire clock moves around the diamond. Of course it does. Yeah, why wouldn't it? Why wouldn't it? Of course it does. Spin, bitch.

I mean, you know, it's all real crazy. The round one is very cool. The concentric one, yeah. As the clock, look at that. It looks like a UFO. That one on the right-hand side that you just had, Jamie. What is that? This?

No, no, the blue one, sorry. The blue one that you just had? Yeah. So that's concentric rings. What is that? no no the one the blue one sorry blue one that you just had yeah so that's concentric rings um is that it's the rings are concentric so you see the line on the bottom so it's 552 is the time there or 452 excuse me what is in the center is that a squirrel in the center is the tourbillon that's the the mechanism that powers it there's other watches have you ever heard of an hyt watch no hyt watches are fucking nuts because they're liquid they're powered by bellows and liquid so they tell the

time yeah give me one where you can see some of the liquid so much i didn't study this shit wait no that's not a good picture jay one stop that. No, no, bottom left. I want to show the liquid specifically. So that one right there, that. Yeah, we did this one before, I think. Yeah, yeah. So the liquid fills up

and moves around the face as the time goes and these bellows move. So you see the bellows in the middle there? Oh, yeah. It's pumping the liquid around the fucking clock face.

I feel like you've shown this to me before. That one seemed familiar when I saw it. Yeah, yeah, the liquid ones. So those are like $40,000, $50,000, $60,000. It starts getting real crazy, the liquid shit. That's such crazy balling.

That skull one. 72 Gs. That skull one's pretty goddamn dope. If Axl Rose is sponsored by this company. Of course he is. If I was an angry rock and roll guy, not saying that Axl is, but you know, you've got angry style, that's a perfect thing, right?

Yep. It's a perfect Axl Rose watch. I mean, you wouldn't recommend it to James Taylor. In my mind. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know. Some people couldn't. Takes a certain type.

Yeah. But if you wanted to get into some really next level weirdness, that's a good way to do it. What is that? What's that box? It's a digital watch. I thought it was a digital watch. What the fuck fuck is that the ps2 wrist drive scuba pro that's a uh that's a dive computer oh it's a scuba diving computer oh yeah that that that one right there is the mb and f legacy

machine perpetual so this round one right on one to the right jamie that diving makes me feel the same as reverse alex honnold that's what diving makes me feel the same as reverse Alex Honnold. That's what diving makes me feel the same. I'm like, get up, get up. This one does the same shit as the first one I showed you. It counts the date and stuff for like 400 years, but it just does it in a prettier, crazier way. Oh my God, that's so beautiful. See, this is what I'm fascinated by. That somebody and some group of people, obviously it's not like one wizard and they're

doing it at multiple companies all around the world yeah and they're innovating and they're competing with each other to make cooler and weirder shit yeah and all this stuff is like i guess it's a watch but it's way more than just a watch like that thing up sorry jamie go back to that one that was uh that weird uh spaceship one that was the yeah the one in the middle yeah right there right there right there that one like space communicator watch that is so crazy look at that thing yeah that's not really a watch this one's cool it's mechanical but it's it's but you read it from the side like that it's very very space communicator yeah it's cool it's something different it's i mean what it's something different than a watch. It's like that Singer DLS, right?

They take the old way, and they evolve the old way as far as they can. So these watches have amazing materials, like really interesting alloys they make for stuff. A lot of these companies make their own alloys, which is really interesting. Look at this thing. It's so cool, man. What is that it's like a it looks like what we thought a spaceship was gonna look like in the 1950s yeah and it's a watch yeah doesn't that that kind of looks and it's power yeah it's like the movie the rocketeer

it reminds me of the rocketeer's rocket yes yes yes so it's totally like that yeah oh my god like you know how elon's only seen space balls, this dude's only seen the Rocketeer. God, that's so beautiful. Yeah. This shit's incredible, dude. And if you... Most people will think you're a weirdo for wearing it, but if you wore something like this to, like, a Watch Nerds gathering, they'll think you're the king of the universe.

You walk in something like this. I'm going to a Watch Nerd gathering after this. Are you really? There's a Grand Seiko party. They announced the new watch. Oh, the Godzilla watch nerd gathering after this. Are you really? There's a Grand Seiko party. They announced the new watch. Oh, the Godzilla watch? The Godzilla watch. Which I don't really like car watch co-brands.

I think the connection is obvious enough. You don't need to shove it in my face. But I'm still going to go to the party. It's a car watch co-brand? Godzilla is the Nissan GTR, not the movie monster. So it's a cross-branding with the Nissan GTR and the Grand Seiko. Oh, I got confused. I thought it was like an anniversary thing for Godzilla.

I think it's the Nissan GTR. Oh, so that Godzilla. That Godzilla. Oh. Well, it looks dope. It does look dope. Oh, wait, it might actually be the movie Godzilla. 65th anniversary.

Maybe it is this fucking 65th anniversary. They came out with a Nissan GTR watch like months ago. So maybe I just got confused. No, no, no. You did. I remember the GTR watch was like a chronograph. Yeah. It was like a bunch of different little, yeah.

That's what I get for not doing my homework. I guess it is the movie monster anniversary. My bad. It looks like it's like a dinosaur skin. Yeah. The leather skin. Yeah. See that one, GTR 50th. It looks like it's like a dinosaur skin. Yeah. The leather skin. Yeah. See that one,

GTR 50th, that was like a couple months ago. So pretty. Sorry. Their finish quality is amazing. Let me see that

Godzilla thing again. Did you do the thing I told you about the reflections on the back of the hands? No, I didn't look. So Grand Seiko, I believe it.

Their finishing on the back of the hands is as good as the finishing on the front of the hands. And if you reflect a light certain ways, you can get it to reflect on the dial. It's really cool. That thing looks wicked. Yeah.

They make a nice watch. Well, they have really pretty design. Whoever is designing their stuff, it's very – that's a weird thing about like watches or anything that someone makes. It's like what appeals to the eye? Like that TGT Studios clock. See that thing right beside you? That's awesome. Yeah. It's something that appeals to the eye? Like that TGT Studios clock. See that thing right in front of you? That's awesome. Yeah.

It's something that appeals to the eye. It's a piece of art that also tells you the time. But there's something about it, like the way it's shaped, the way it's formed. Yeah. It makes you want to look at it. It's interesting. Well, really, the very best watches, you just stare at them sometimes. Like your watch, I love.

Is yours a spring drive? Yeah. Yeah. So the spring drive with the super smooth hand sweep. You don't need to be diving to wear a dive watch. Diving, bro. I got to dive. You never know.

If shit hits the fan, I want a waterproof watch. No, you just get... You get your shit wet all the time probably, right? Between the tanks and the sweating and the washing your hands and whatever. It's definitely going to get wet occasionally. Yeah. I mean, a dive watch isn't for people who dive. It's for people who just get their hands wet Tell that to a diver

They want to piss in your mouth right now Fuck you bro I'm a diver I'm a scuba diving instructor Are you really? Yeah You teach people how to dive? I can I did in my early 20s

Now I do this You gave me a diver pass Yeah I'm good Just as I am I absolve you Dude I'm terrified of the ocean Why?

Getting in that water With all those fucking things That move better than you Yeah but most of them Don't care about you Most of them You're just looking at them That's the key word isn't it?

Yeah Most of them I went to the Galapagos Over this year And I saw hammerhead sharks While snorkeling It was rad Nothing cuter than a baby hammerhead

Like this big Really? Amazing Like a foot long It was the cutest thing ever. Wow. But like, yeah, I can see how the ocean is big and dark and scary. Dude, it's terrifying.

Yeah, I know. I still get a little nervous when I go in the ocean. You should be scared. Yeah, I know. I do. You can't move good. There's monsters in there. They're real.

I know. This is what I always say about sharks. If there was a werewolf and the werewolf came out every full moon yeah every full moon if you were outside your house you got murdered you just got ripped apart it happened to one person every full moon all across the land yeah people would be like fuck man i'm not going out on a full moon okay sharks are like werewolves but they're werewolves every day of the year. I don't think shark attacks are that common. Because they don't see you, and you're not supposed to be there.

So they're not accustomed to you. If they were accustomed to you, like if we lived in the water with sharks, do you think the moral duty that sharks have to be good neighbors, to keep them from eating us? If we were just everywhere in the water all the time and sharks figured it out we'd be like oh we could just eat them let's just eat them they just they're just dumb they don't know they're supposed to eat us they have a narrow thing in their eye of what they're supposed to be eating yeah they don't i don't think they like us i don't think they want to eat us they're just not accustomed

to it yeah their their focus is look don't when they bite people don't they spit them out a lot they rarely finish a human you see them they take a limb they don't finish a human i saw jaws dude in jaws they finish people and there was also like fucking license plates and shit remember oh yeah they eat trash yeah they'll eat anything yeah yeah they'll eat your asshole they eat everything yeah but they probably wouldn't eat two license plates In a row They might I don't think they think I think they're just Eating machines There's no

I don't Calculate a risk I don't know any better But I don't think There's any evidence That sharks are like wizards They're really smart And clever

Like dolphins are clever as fuck Orcas are clever We know Sharks are just these murderers Just With a Continual Row of teeth

Yeah Teeth fall out New one pops in, bang, like a rotor. But I don't go diving where there's fucking great lights.

Dude, they're everywhere! I mean, yeah, I guess. You don't go into a neighborhood. They can just decide to go to your neighborhood. It's like if you were camping and a giant campground

and out there in that campground wolves were tearing open fucking tents and pulling people out and eating them alive. Would you feel like, well, they never come up here. They're literally chumming that shark.

They're feeding that shark in that image. It's a real thing, dude. They brought in a werewolf. This is what I'm saying. It doesn't matter. If you had a fucking cage and it could put you in the middle of the woods and your friend ties a lamb to the outside of the cage so you could see the werewolf in real life and

it looks like American Werewolf in London. That's that. I know. That's the same thing. I don't go fucking shark diving. What do you want from me? Stay out of the ocean. Please.

Do me a favor. I like the ocean. Look at those teeth. I know. I'm so scared for you. I know. I go, what about, Joe, don't you go walk? What about mountain lions?

You go walking in the woods with your fucking dog and shit. Terrifying. I bring a knife. I'm such a pussy. I'm trying to pretend that I'd be able to your fucking dog and shit? I bring a knife. I'm such a pussy. I'm trying to pretend that I'd be able to stab some mountain lion and get it off of me. I dive with a knife. My dog would try to make friends with the mountain lion. He's so nice.

You know what he barks at? Hilarious. The only thing he barks at. Is what? He barks at when people have a Santa Claus in their driveway. He's like, what the fuck is that? He's never seen. You know, he doesn't know what the fuck they are right he doesn't see there's like a normal thing for him to see glowing so we're walking

we're walking and i take him to the trail and i open up the back to let him out he jumps out onto the sidewalk and looks at this guy's fucking this guy's fake snowman and starts barking. Oh my God. And then he just goes, oh my God, I'm an idiot. He realizes it's just some fucking thing. It's not really a person. And then he just runs up the hill. I got kittens a couple of months ago and one of them didn't just learned that he was fighting himself in the mirror, which was a really fun 20 minutes to watch him figure that out.

And they chase their own tail it's genuinely hilarious yeah there's something about watching a kitten just spin around their own tail they're dumb as fuck but they're so fun it's such a little drug it's so joy inducing to watch a kitten just spin around oh dude i don't watch tv i have four cats in my house and all i do is like what are the cats doing and just watch what other cats are doing it's constantly I do is like, what are the cats doing? And just watch what the cats are doing. It's constantly entertaining. Do you know the video with the cat and the two crows? Where the cat, these two cats, or excuse me, the crow and the two cats? Where this crow instigates a fight between these two cats. No, this sounds awesome.

The crow lands on the roof, like real close to a cat. And he's like, what? And the cat moves at him, and he flies away real quick, and he comes back. And then he flies over to the other roof goes to another oh this is a different one where they're doing it and he starts and he causes the two cats to fight each other that's amazing they fuck with the cats and they get them close to each other and watch them fight it's like the don king of birds yes they do it all the time they like doing it so they instigate fights so there's this one they literally pick on them and get them worked up so they'll fuck up the other cat. Bro, that's so funny.

But there was one where these cats were on the roof. There's probably a hundred of these videos. They're really clever. You've seen the videos of... I know what you're talking about. It's just not coming up. You've seen the videos of crows. Is it crows or ravens that can use tools?

They can use tools. Wait, can I ask a practical question? This is a really interesting topic, but what is the legal thing with playing a clip from YouTube on this podcast? We can't. Nobody's looking at that. They're seeing us. We can't use the clips. That's why we're not.

Oh, got it. Sorry. You can't use other people's shit. They'll take you down. I completely understand, but in my show, i sometimes show images in the feed and so i was wondering if you were doing that people will try to claim you can show images like i'll give websites credit i want to promote the website yeah but if you have like someone else's stuff on your feed crows using compound tools what is a compound tool? It explains that here.

It took two things and made it a better tool. Oh shit, really? Yeah, dude. Yo, we're fucked. They figured out at one point in time how to take one tool and use it to get a second tool that was bigger and use that second tool to get food. So they figured out using a tool to get a tool

to use a tool. But now they're figuring out how to make tools, bitch. They're connecting things together, son. That's bonkers. They're smart. We started that, too. Monkeys back in the day, we figured out a compound tool. As much as I love cats.

Cats are not that smart. They're not doing that. They're not that smart. That's okay. Those little fuckers are sneaky. They'll pick fights. I had a cat that could open doors. Ooh.

Which was interesting. Yeah. Were you ever getting in on when the cat jumped in? This is the one. This is the one. So they get it off the roof? Go right to the beginning, because in the beginning you see that, no, the beginning, the crow's on the roof with him fucking with him. See?

The very beginning of it. That's crazy. It's okay. No, that's okay. Just play it from there. So the crow's, see how the crow takes off? Yeah, yeah. So he was fucking with him. And then he flies over to the other one. Let's see. And he's like no that's like just played from there so the crows see how the crow takes off yeah so he was fucking with them and then he flies over to the other one let's see and he's like what's up bitch what are you gonna let this fucking pussy hang out over here on this uh this

roof right next to you and he starts like getting close to him and rile him up and flying away when the cat gets close and then he goes back again to the other cat and fucks with him he gets him riled up and then he flies away and he goes back to the other cat and he flies away and he keeps doing it until they just they're on edge because he's a little cunt yeah yeah yeah that's so smart and then the cats are looking at each other and so he starts fucking with the cats and now the cat's getting more and more angry like he's starting that's so between he's actually pushing the cat towards the other look. Look at that. Holy shit. That's crazy. He made that cat jump up and fuck up the other cat.

And this fucking bird is just over here like, yeah, yeah, get him. Yeah. Oh my God. They fall off the fucking roof. Fall off the roof. The bird follows him down. Hanging on each other in the snow. Bro, this bird is having a good time.

Dude, that bird is evil. That bird's so evil. That bird is having his own kitty cat fights to the death. Oh wow. Oh my God. Look at these guys going down the hole. Oh shit. Bro, you should just be commentating this shit this is a please this is a fucking crazy that is awesome my cat conrad my 15 year old boy chased the fucking stray out of our yard

yesterday like a boss cats are sneaky man they're smart little fuckers and they carry some creepy diseases maybe they're paying them back for killing all their friends could be right eight Cats are sneaky, man. They're smart little fuckers, and they carry some creepy diseases. Maybe they're paying them back for killing all their friends. Could be, right? Eight million birds a year or whatever it is. Yeah. Oh, billions. Oh, dude, my cats have fucked some birds up.

Yeah, well, they said that they didn't have any idea. I remember what the number was. Excuse me, I don't remember what the number was, but it's in the billions, and they were stunned. They had no idea. They ran some sort of a scientific study, and using the study, they examined all good dude all of the different really good at weed turns out i flashed this up you didn't i don't this was uh taken in north ridge a week ago what is that it's a mountain line on someone's roof fucking hell there's two of them north ridge two on the roof at the same time oh my god it's so hard your kids hide your wife Yeah Well they're looking For dogs and cats One of the things

They found out When they killed them In San Francisco In the Bay Area They have real problems Up there sometimes Especially some of those Homes that like

Sort of like We have Malibu The mountain lions Live real In close proximity With the people So they do these Stomach examinations

They find it's like Half dogs and cats Well the cat that I said That could open doors and shit, he wanted nothing more than to kill one of my other cats. He was a Russian Blue, had three legs, and he was really, really smart. We adopted him, and we tried for like six months to make it work.

We tried everything, everything you could think of to make it work. You brought a criminal into your home. Exactly, and I didn't know. And we rehomed him with my brother-in-law and his wife, and he got along with the dog and was having the best time and chill. But he thought he fucking ran shit. He thought he owned the neighborhood. And he ended up getting eaten by a mountain lion.

Three legs versus a mountain lion. Good luck, kid. R.I.P. Morgan. Smartest, fastest three-legged animal you've ever seen. But fucking, yeah, mountain lion won. Maybe he's a little cocky for his own good. A thousand percent. He thought he ran shit.

That's hilarious. A crippled cat. Imagine the moment when you realize that that's a giant you. You know, you think you're this bad motherfucker because you can jack most animals, and then you realize, oh my God, this is a 140-pound me. Yeah, yeah. Fuck this. He was never seen again. Bro, we're so weird that we let those things just wander around us.

We're so weird. I always think it's really strange that I live with another species in my house. I think about that very often. I mean mountain lions. Oh, yeah. As opposed to what? Like exterminating them? Fucking holocausting them?

Killing them. All of them. Genocide. I don't advocate that. I don't think the vegans would like that. I don't think we should kill them. All I'm saying is it's really interesting that we have this thing that we sort of agree rarely rarely kills people but it does

sometimes and we want to keep it around sounds an awful lot like the sharks bro and we also have to acknowledge that they're running out of shit to eat you know it's not like if we're gonna have are they yeah listen man when was the last time you saw a deer i mean fairly recently but but but not often not here it's pretty rare even if you live where deer are like i used to growing up in the suburbs of new york i used to see deer like daily do you think deer on the pill no what do you think's going on i've lived in a city and i haven't paid attention to the deer in the suburbs i'll tell you what's what's happened man cats oh they moved in and started jacking deer and coyotes moved in start jacking deer and the cats are fucking up deer big cats oh mountain lions bobcats bobcats are fucking up deer oh everybody's fucking up the fawns

everybody's fucking up the babies yeah yeah so when the babies are born they have zero chance these big fucking big wild dogs it's a coyote is that everywhere or just california just like outside of la mostly around us if you go to like iowa they they have too many deer like you'll be driving why are we so why are we hunting deer and not mountain lion well you can't hunt mountain lion in california they don't have is there a pretty predatory cat that you can't hunt mountain lion in California. They don't have a- Is there a predatory cat that you should hunt? I mean, I don't know. You can give- Well, see, the thing is, like, the people think that you need to control their population.

Right. And this is where the argument gets real interesting because it branches off between people that are very much animal advocates, animal rights first. They want animals to rule and to be able to have their own freedom on their land yeah and just whatever happens happens like mountain lions killing deer and all that kind of stuff and let it all take place and we shouldn't interfere with that and we shouldn't hunt there's people that really think like that and you know they have their arguments and they have their their reasons but the reality of animals is if you have large predators and the large predators runs out of things to eat, it's either going to go further and enter into new areas looking for food and it might get hit by cars or it's going to branch out and expand. It's going to expand its range and in expanding its range, it's going to find a farm or it's going to find a dog in the

backyard it's going to find something because it's just trying to get food and like how many of those are we willing to have around us yeah like i'm not saying that we should kill mountain lions i think it's wonderful are they endangered no not really so why can't we hunt them in other parts of the country oh okay well california doesn't yeah well the only time california kills them really is when they get what's called a depredation order. Like if someone has something happen, like if you run a farm and a mountain lion starts killing your livestock, which does happen. Yeah. A lady in Malibu a few years back had a, I think it was an alpaca farm.

And this fucking mountain lion killed like a ton of them. It was just killing them. They seem easy to kill, though. I think it killed a goat, too. I think it was just getting a kick out of killing things. It was just fun. But they said it wasn't even eating them, which was really nuts. That's strange.

I think he couldn't get it out. It's probably a really big animal. And he couldn't get it out. And he probably didn't feel comfortable enough to eat it while he's in there. So he's probably really confused. He killed them all at once? Oh, shit. Well, I think it was over a couple of of days but it was kind of a killing spring

see if pull up sociopathic sociopathic yeah it's kind of like that man because like he just killed for fun first of all when you think about mal would you really think about an alpaca farm no well no i think of that in topanga right right right and if you did think about one of them i just drove here by the way over topanga yes someone it seems is building a house that's like a dome that they're gonna put dirt over did you see this it's up at the top of the hill at topanga facing the beach and yeah like so picture a facade, a flat facade with a bunch of windows, brick. Right. And then it just kind of ends.

And then there's this concrete kind of three-quarter dome that comes out from behind it. And they're covering, when I drove by, they were covering the dome with this sort of tarpy waterproofing layer. And it looked like they were going to then move earth and and build a mountain over the dome so you'd have a your home would be sort of inside this man-made mountain it's a fucking hobbit it seemed kind of awesome actually what if somebody off-roads on your roof and it crushes your house you don't even know now that could be a problem that would suck instead and sues you you don't want to live underground what are you a rat i don't know it seemed weird but it was very interesting it seems like fire resistant if the whole live underground. What are you, a rat? I don't know. It seemed weird, but it was very interesting.

It seems like fire resistant if the whole neighborhood catches on fire. Are you a gopher, bro? Why are you living underground? If you had to live in the air, underground or underwater? Oh, underground for sure.

He's right. He's right. Is that it? No, so that's a geodesic dome. This is sort of, it's a flat facade. Whoever lives there believes in crystals. It's not built yet. It's like half built, but that's pretty fucking coolic dome. This is sort of, it's a flat facade. Whoever lives there believes in crystals.

It's not built yet. It's like half built, but that's pretty fucking cool. Go back to that picture. Whoever lives in there for sure believes in chanting. Yeah. Crystals. They call the corners regularly. Look how pretty it is.

I mean, but the idea of living in a fun shape like that is cool. Make your life more interesting. For sure. If only I lived in a dome, everybody would like me. But how long do you think you could live like that? I don't know. Some weirdo fucking art house before you're like, let me just have a house house. Like you don't need, you want to sit in a house house.

There's an art house right near me that's a very famous architect. I think it's Frank Gehry's art house. It's a very famous architect. I think it's Frank Gehry's art house. And it's a terrible use of space, but it literally has like a tree house, like a box on a post just floating above the house. And there's like a little stairs that go up there, and there's just a dining room table for two in the air on a post. That's bonkers. Get out of there. It doesn't seem particularly convenient to live in.

But sometimes you're into those. You know, you've got to have that designer house. Yeah. What if it got hit by an asteroid? Like that one little spot. Oh my God, a direct shot? The luck. The luck would be unbelievable.

God telling you, get the fuck out of here. You shouldn't have bought an art house. Get the fuck out of here with your art house, bro. I'm approaching my pee limit. Okay. Three and a half. Well, we're at 630. We could wrap this bad boy up and bring it home. I'm really proud pee limit. Okay. Three and a half. Well, we're at 630. We could wrap this bad boy up and bring it home.

I'm really proud of myself for not peeing during the show. It was a goal. You held it together. And I did three bottles of fucking water, too. I was worried. I had to pee before the show. I know. Twice.

Respect. Respect. Thank you for having me. Always a good time, man. Always a good time. I really appreciate it. I enjoy geeking out with you. It's been very fun.

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Always a pleasure. Thanks, Jamie. Bye, everybody. Woo! That was great, man. Thank you so much. That was a lot of fun.