The Joe Rogan Experience - #1412 - Jimmy Dore
Episode Date: January 16, 2020Jimmy Dore is a stand-up comedian, political commentator, host of “The Jimmy Dore Show” available on Spotify. ...
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Oh, here we go.
Good?
Hello, Jimmy.
Hi, Joe.
What's going on, buddy?
Good to see you.
Good to see you, too.
What's happening?
Well, we were just talking about the Air Force admitting that their pilots had seen UFOs,
and you were telling me you interviewed one of those pilots.
I interviewed Commander Fravor, and he was saying that this-
Chocolate has been my favorite.
Ah! Come on! It's with an R.vor fravor okay um he was i mean he was one of the guys that actually went to
what what is the word they do when they scramble and go to try to figure out what the fuck something
is but they they monitored this thing they saw it with their eyes they saw it with their equipment
it was actively jamming the radar whatever this thing was it was shaped like a tic-tac
and it moved so fast you couldn't track it with the human eye they said it went from i think they
said some some impossible number like 60 000 feet down to 200 feet in less than a second
like whatever you could track you know a radar does a blip blip blip blip they don't know how fast it actually went they just know it went this insane distance
in less than a second less than a radar jump like and it would it would data had observed them in
that area without his knowledge like other air force pilots had observed them and and then had brought it up to the top of the food chain.
But it wasn't something that got distributed to everybody until he saw it.
When he saw it, he was like, what in the fuck am I looking at here?
And they're like, yeah, we've been seeing these things.
And this thing with no active propulsion system that you could recognize.
There was nothing around, no fire coming out of it, nothing around.
And it would just disappear, just take off at an insane race to speed and actively jamming
their radar.
So when I covered this on my show, I said, now, I've heard reports that pilots see this
stuff all the time, but they never confirmed it.
And my question was, why now?
Why would the Air force be confirming that
they saw ufos now because again like they've been there have been reports that pilots have seen this
stuff forever i'm not saying it didn't happen i'm saying why are they admitting it happened now
and then of course you see in this last uh defense budget they put in money for a space force i think
the money for the space force though isn't that because china is able to that's what they say
whatever they can do to make sure we want is able to... That's what they say.
Whatever they can do to make sure we want to spend more money, that's what they'll do.
Hey, we saw a UFO.
Hey, China.
Hey, look over there.
We got to spend more money.
You think that's what it is?
That's why they're admitting it?
But Fravor, I guarantee you, isn't in that.
No, no, I guarantee you saw it. He isn't involved with that.
No, no.
They're just now...
But before, they would say, that's not true.
The Air Force would go, we don't acknowledge that.
Now they're going to acknowledge it.
Right.
You're probably right.
There's probably something to that, that it's just about budgets.
I don't want to be that cynical when it comes to something like that.
Really?
That's cynical?
I want to think that.
Come on.
That's not cynical.
That's two plus two.
It is.
You're right.
But it's also cynical.
The only reason why they're telling us is because of budgets.
It's both things.
Yeah.
Okay. It is two plus. I mean, look of budgets. It's both things. Yeah. Okay.
It is two-point. I mean, look, 100% is how they do it.
If they need some sort of justification for expanding their reach or expanding their budget, they come up with some threat.
Well, this is this, Joe. This is what I keep telling people and no one seems to think this is a big deal.
people and no one seems to think this is a big deal but uh you know the democrats and the mainstream news have spent the last three years telling everybody that trump is a manchurian
candidate he's a traitor to our country and working under the behest of vladimir putin
and while they're impeaching him they're voting to give him an extra 131 billion dollars to go
bomb anybody he wants and if he's bombing at the behest of vladimir putin why would you give him
an extra 131 billion dollars now let me tell you how much 131 billion dollars is joe please do uh
well 20 billion dollars would end homelessness and homelessness yeah is that real though that's
that's the that's the figure to that in a moment but that let's just let's just say it's 20 let's
just say it's 20 billion a year a year not just once but every year you'd have to spend 20 billion right okay
guess what they're spending an extra 131 billion since trump took office every year going forward
on bomb 131 billion you can go everybody go to college 110 billion we'd have no homeless people
yes if they took that money and put it towards it that's a lot so somebody told me the difference
between a million and a billion So I read this
So I don't know maybe you want to fact check
Make sure I'm not full of shit again
So like a million seconds
Would be like 11 days
But a billion seconds
Is like 33 years
Something like that
I'm not sure but it's close
So that's 131 billion dollars
Could do a lot of good things.
You know, we could half our military budget and still we'd still be spending more than any other country.
Now, why do you think that they would do that?
Why do you think while they're impeaching him, they would also approve this incredible budget increase for military?
Because they're owned right by the military industrial complex.
That's why.
Because they, you know Because the defense secretaries
just came right from Raytheon.
The guy before Secretary of State
came right from Exxon.
I mean, come on.
That's the beauty of Trump.
You don't have to figure it out.
It's right there.
They asked him the other day
about his criticisms of how he's handling.
He goes,
they said I didn't pull out of Syria,
and I did, but I left troops for the oil.
They're just there to guard the oil.
And he just says it.
So, which proves he's the funniest president we've ever had.
Oh, for sure.
Oh, no doubt.
No doubt.
No doubt.
I thought George Bush was funny.
This guy, he's intentionally and unintentionally the funniest president we've ever had.
Like the other day he was doing a signing.
So in 2019 was the 100th centennial, the 100 year anniversary, the centennial anniversary of women getting the right to vote, women's suffrage.
So he was signing a thing commemorating it, the 100 year, they're going to have a coin.
And as he signed it, he goes, you know, I heard they've been working on getting this done for a long time.
I wonder why it finally happened now.
Well, because it's centennials now, dummy.
You can't do it.
Why didn't 100 years happen faster?
And he's sitting around going, well, we get stuff done.
That's why it happened.
And they're all looking at him like, okay, Mr. President.
But he straight faces it.
It's hilarious.
Do you think he's on speed?
And somebody, oh, well, so when he did that one video
with the drawer with the drawer open it's actually a photo it was a photo when he was eating that
taco right that's it like i love hispanics remember that it was after he said some rude
shit about mexicans jesus so he does this taco bowl thing say that trump tower is the best taco
bowls i love hispanics yes and the drawer was, and you saw he had that stuff from England or whatever, right?
The Sudafed.
Super powerful pseudo-ephedrine, which is essentially a type of speed.
Well, I like him on speed better than the other guy.
I like the speedy Trump.
He's entertaining.
Well, sometimes it wears off, though, and you see him slurring his words, and it gets really weird.
He doesn't even try to finish words sometimes.
He tried, but he can't. You can see him have a hard time with words sometimes what was the one word him
and george bush both oh sovereignty they both sovereign well there's that one david packman
put a video up it showed all the different times that trump has struggled to talk but there's one
that's really disturbing because it's obvious he's under some sort of sedative
or he's coming down from some speed
and he's barely staying awake while he's talking.
It's like if you called me at 3 o'clock in the morning
and I just worked 24 hours in a row,
and you're like, hey, man, what are you doing?
Oh, fucking Jesus.
It's literally like that.
But yeah, you've never seen it?
No, I haven't seen it, no.
See if you can find it because it's really bonkers because when you hear him talk, you've never seen it? No, I haven't seen it, no. See if you can find it. Because it's really bonkers.
Because when you hear him talk, you're like,
oh my God.
There was no discussion of this. It's not like he came out
later and said, hey, guys, I had a bad
night last night. Somebody slipped me a Mickey.
It was a real issue.
Well, his whole thing is he's a teetotaler, right?
That's nonsense. Is it?
Yeah, the pseudoephedrine, all that stuff.
But then it turns out he's doing, you know, pharmaceuticals.
Yes.
Yeah.
He's doing what's legal.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
You know, if you, the doctor writes him a prescription, you know, there was this whole
thing with, what was that, there was that reporter that named the Duane Reade pharmacy
that he had gone to in New York to fill this prescription for a metabolic condition,
which he said is like a bullshit reason.
He took diet pills, and the diet pills were speed,
but it was prescribed by his doctor.
But look, if you're a guy who wants to fucking get shit done all the time,
you want to be on speed.
Speed's the way to go.
I know people who say they write songs on speed.
Like, you know, musicians.
Slayer?
I don't know Slayer, but...
That seems like the kind of music
you'd write on speed.
Like, rah!
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Oh, okay.
You know?
Yeah.
That's speed music.
I don't know what the kids listen to.
Sarah McLaughlin on speed.
Can you imagine?
She'd be like,
fuck those puppies.
Yeah.
You know, I went to one of those, what were they called?
The women's Lollapalooza.
What were they called?
Lilith Fair?
Lilith Fair.
I was dating a girl.
Oh, no.
And she took me.
Oh, Jimmy.
Oh, my God.
She's just trying to drain you.
Turns out I was going through a mentally imbalanced time.
I didn't know.
Turns out I was like, oh, that was when I was going through a nervous breakdown.
Yeah.
In the arms of it.
It's great music to listen to right before you go to bed.
It was.
No, but I do remember the um what's
that hard rocking woman who's really good middle there's one that's really good chrissy chrissy
hein yeah from the pretenders that's it yeah she's a beast that she was there that i'm like this is
good oh yeah i was like that's really good yeah no i always loved her yeah she's awesome i was
like why don't you just have her play more yeah Yeah, what the fuck is this? I can't even remember who else was there.
Anytime you have an all-woman's
anything, or an all-man's anything
for that matter, it's a mess.
Like if you say, this is a men's conference,
we're here for men's rights and men's issues
and blah.
That's not good.
You're going to find a bunch of bitch-ass men too.
You're not going to find any real men
at an all-men's getaway. Let's get together not gonna find any real men and an all men's getaway
let's get together and talk about our problems and they're all they all stem from bitches
yeah these girls won't fuck us it's a horrible situation yeah i don't know how i don't know how
women i just feel sorry for women that i have to fuck men i do don't you we're gross no kidding
no kidding and do you ever just
listen the way guys talk to women trying to get laid it's like oh my god especially dumb guys
that which is most guys most guys yeah most people yeah most men and women are dumb
yes the fact yeah i would i would i'm close i'm in the dumb uh yeah there's gaps in my knowledge that
i can't believe oh yeah and well neither of us neither of us are gonna figure anything out
right we're not we're not that guy that they're gonna call on if there's a real issue we need
jimmy door no but that's but that's see that's the thing joe about my whole show is that someone as
dumb as me can see through this stuff. I can put it together.
Oh, we're going to admit that we have UFOs,
and now we're going to have a space bar.
Okay, I can put that together.
That's the whole thing.
It's like if I can do this, I know they can do this.
They're just not doing it.
I think the UFO thing is, you know,
I know you're probably right in terms of like one of the reasons
why they released it, but i think there's also this when you get a bunch of like really credible people like that commander favor guy
when you get actual data like radar you actually can look at the video of the infrared infrared
camera of them tracking that thing there's enough of those now that people are like well what the
fuck is going on and if you guys have all this money and
all this equipment is this is this something that the chinese are doing or the russians are doing or
is this something that you can't explain and i think we're in this area where there's so much
information people can get a hold of so many videos and so much stuff that they kind of have
to start talking about it now okay i i you know i i see how they shut down conversations around the
most innocuous of inquiries so that's true too they can they shame pretty hard yeah they that
that's pretty that's true too but when you got a guy who's like a decorated pilot like fravor
and he's like look i don't have any other crazy stories in my past he's not a crazy guy he's
pretty rock solid general all- around American hero type guy.
And he's like, look, I'll tell you what I fucking saw.
And it's pretty crazy.
Those pilots though, they live a crazy life, don't they?
Well, they have to.
I mean, Sex at Dawn, right?
They go faster than the speed of sound.
Oh, Sex at Dawn with the book?
Yeah.
Look, Chris is a good friend of mine.
I think there's some of the things that Chris looks at.
Like, Chris is kind of a freak.
He wants things to be a little on the freaky side.
Okay.
But the idea about the pilots is that they all swap.
Wife swapping.
Because they think they could die at any moment.
They create this bond.
Yes.
Yeah.
They want someone to love their wife as much as they do.
Or maybe they want to fuck their buddy's wife and they're all doing coke.
Maybe that's it.
That could be it too.
Maybe they're all on fucking meth.
They're all on Donald Trump's diet pills and they want to bag each other's wives.
So you don't think that happened?
Probably sure happens.
Oh, okay.
Especially during wartime.
I mean, war, people shift.
War is crazy.
You know, the mind shifts when you see bodies, when you've killed people,
when you've made these rationalizations,
and also you're very aware that someone's trying to do to you
what you've done to people,
and your entire existence is, from dawn till dust,
is eliminate the enemy.
And it's a mindset that people slide right into.
My doctor, Dr. Sharp.
That fucking guy?
No, I'm just kidding.
Dr. Sharp.
Just kidding, Dr. Sharp.
So Dr. Charles Sharp, he's the greatest endocrinologist.
Dr. Charles Glendale?
That guy?
He's in Pasadena.
Oh, okay.
I almost said Pasadena.
Oh, if you would have said that, I'd have freaked out.
Fuck.
I went with Glendale because it's funnier.
Ah, I always go Glendale.
I always go Glendale.
And then I go Glendale and then Torrance.
Torrance is a good one, too.
Torrance is good.
It's like, why are you living there
What are you
What are you
What are you into
Pinto and Taurus
Anyway so
What was I talking about
Dr. Sharp
Oh
In Pasadena
So he said he smoked pot
When he was in Vietnam
Because I told him
I smoked pot
Right
Just to let him know
Everything that's happening
With me chemically
And he said that He said yeah I did it I said that, he said, yeah, I did it.
I said, you ever smoke?
He goes, yeah, I did it once in Vietnam.
He said they would have a helicopter circling the medical, he was a doctor, the medical.
And so you could always hear it constantly searching for whatever, people coming at us.
And then all of a sudden, I didn't hear it.
And it had crashed, right?
So I had to go help the guy.
And he said, I just smoked pot.
And as a doctor,
you have to be able to disassociate
from what you're doing.
And he said, I couldn't.
And he said, so when I came up on him
and I could tell this guy
was going to be crippled
and I couldn't,
it would mess me up.
He goes, so I never smoked pot again.
Wow.
And I could see,
could you imagine like you're new to pot?
You know how it makes you sense things extra, especially when you first start.
Yeah.
You know how you just extra sense, and then you walk up on a scene like that, like, oh, my God.
Oh.
I couldn't imagine that.
So that, yeah, I probably would stop smoking pot.
Yeah, I mean, that's, talk about bad trips.
Bad, bad trips.
That's as bad as it gets.
Yeah.
Walk up on someone who just crashed in a helicopter in the middle of a war,
and you're high as fuck, and you realize he's crippled.
So let me ask you a question.
When I would travel out of the country, I would always think that,
oh, I get like a little cold flu thing every time I travel out of the country.
Like I would get night sweats, and I would kind of get headaches,
and I would feel a little fluey you know and then uh i got this dental implant and so i didn't so i want you know they
say don't smoke whatever so i'm like gonna be extra good i didn't smoke for a whole week i felt
like i felt when i go to europe so you think you have a physical addiction yes i was like no way
did you i mean that's why I wanted to ask.
Does that ever happen to you when you travel outside the country?
No, no.
But some people do have that, apparently.
Yes.
Like night sweats.
It's the worst.
Night sweats.
You wake up and as soon as I take this cover off, it's going to be freezing.
Really?
Yeah.
So I got to get up and change my t-shirt.
I was sorting to sleep in a t-shirt and jeans.
I don't know.
I like to be ready.
And Timberlands. I don't know. I like to be ready. And Timberlands.
I want to go.
Now, do you smoke before you go to bed?
Is that your move?
Of course.
Okay.
So it helps you sleep.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
How about you?
No.
It doesn't help you sleep?
No.
No.
No, when I smoke pot, I'm awake.
I start thinking about shit.
I don't want to go to sleep.
Oh, it depends what I smoke, right?
So there's the thinky pot
And then there's the sleepy pot
Yeah
Even the sleepy pot makes me
Sometimes
It gives me a burst
But then
Like I smoke this stuff
Called GMO
Whoa
It is the best
Genetically modified organisms
Oh I wonder if that's
What it stands for
Yeah exactly
They're trying to fuck with you
They're like
This is some GMO shit son
They are fucking with me
It's working
Look they're
Genetically modifying the weed
For sure I was just Stuff we get today I was just So I get this at my place son they are fucking with me well it's working look they're genetically modifying the weed for
sure i was just definitely good today i was just important so i get this at my place over in eagle
rock so i was in portland last week and it's legal so i just walk into a pot store and i go hey i'm
looking for a indica high thc he goes how about gmo go you're kidding and it's my fucking barrette
it was great how high is it it's got like 29% THC. What was that shit
that Kevin Smith dropped off? Wasn't it 42%?
How do you get
something 42%? He's
going hard. He's an
all-day guy. He's one of them
all-day guys. He starts off in the morning
and just keeps going. Yeah. So that's
the problem with, like, I love
to take a little puff in the morning with my
coffee or what have you, but the problem is you're giving up your later night buzz because i can't get buzzed more than
once or twice a day that's it because of my tolerance and then if i try to smoke more i'll
just get a headache do you ever get headaches no i don't get headaches from potty you don't get any
of these problems i just get the the over stimulation the i mean you would call it paranoia
but i kind of welcome it sometimes because i think it's good to be hyper aware of all these different
things and it makes you appreciate when you're not you know i think that that that feeling that
you get when you get high when you're like oh my god like everything is fucking dangerous the world
is a dangerous place and i'm'm going to die someday for sure.
Everyone around me is going to die.
I hope they don't die today.
It's like, I'm going to be 60.
And the crazy thing is, like, these feelings, for some reason, aren't there, even though you know those things to be a fact.
I know.
Like, you know you're like a basically like oh
we are all water balloons they're like water balloons of blood with like sticks holding us
together we're so doughy and fleshy and weak and vulnerable and you know like that guy found when
he found that helicopter uh had crashed and that's that's what happens to your body your body's a
very vulnerable thing it's not very. Your body's a very vulnerable thing.
It's not very tough.
Even the toughest bodies are very vulnerable.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
I watch boxing.
Yeah.
See them go down.
Oh, yeah.
Toughest guys in the world.
But you know what?
I always wondered what...
I've been knocked out.
You've been knocked out?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
So it's not a big...
Like, when you get knocked out and you wake up,
you don't know... You're like, did I just get knocked out? It doesn't really hurt. I've never been knocked out. You've been knocked out? Yes. Oh, okay. So it's not a big, like when you get knocked out and you wake up, you don't know, you're
like, did I just get knocked out?
It doesn't really hurt.
I've been knocked completely unconscious, but I got TKO'd in a kickboxing bout.
I got dropped.
Oh.
And then I got hit with a bunch of other punches and the referee stopped it.
Oh, okay.
But that was more like my, that was a weird, that was the weirdest feeling I had ever had
up to that moment was like my legs just stopped working.
Like, brr, they just shut off.
Like this guy hit me with a left hook. I conscious but my legs just went whoop oh that's
when they stopped that's when they go his legs aren't there you always heard them say that but
like they go they literally go out they go whoo did you and you fell oh yeah oh they stopped
working it's very strange and it's like your your brain gets jostled around inside your head and
also when you get hit on the jaw, there's nerves behind your jaw.
And when your bone of your jaw slams into those nerves and your head gets rattled and the brain, all of it together.
It's like everything just goes, what's happening here?
You know, sometimes you get knocked unconscious.
I didn't get knocked unconscious, but my shit just shut off.
I'm always surprised when guys get knocked out,
they don't piss themselves.
Sometimes they do.
They do a lot of times when you choke them out.
Oh, really?
Yeah, when you choke guys out, they piss themselves all the time.
They shit themselves, too, if they have to shit.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They just lose control of their body.
But before you go fight,
do you try to make sure you don't have to take a shit?
Yeah, sometimes guys do have to take a shit, though.
I've had a guy one time, Michael Chiesa,
who's a top UFC fighter,
he was, right before he was fighting, he looked over at me,
like, as he got into the cage, he goes, dude, I'm going to shit myself.
He goes, I guarantee you I'm going to shit myself while this fight's going on.
I'm like, fuck!
Why wouldn't he just go to the bathroom?
Couldn't.
It was the way it worked out.
Like, you know, they're calling, okay, you're up. You feel feel it's coming But you can't go right now Yeah he's like oh no
And then he just makes
The rock up there
And then all of a sudden
Diarrhea
He's like oh my god
He wound up winning the fight
But did he shit
No he didn't shit himself
Oh
I talked him out
He's like I swore
I was gonna shit myself
I talked him out of it
He's a funny dude
No I didn't talk about it
I don't think I said it
I talked about it
I don't think I said
But I talked to him
I talked about it with him
After the fight He's like no I didn't shit myself That would be funny And we were laughing about it If you could talk think I said it, but I talked to him. I talked about it with him after the fight.
He's like, no, I didn't shit myself.
That would be funny.
And we were laughing about it.
If you could talk about it.
It's like, I'm going to have diarrhea.
Let me talk to you for a second.
If you heard this story.
Well, if you do, you know, if you have diarrhea, it's like, it's one of those things, man.
I've been on this carnivore diet.
Do you know what that is?
No.
I'm eating only meat for the entire month of January just to to see what it's like no vegetables none zero i had an olive and i had one piece of
chili mango i actually had two pieces of chili mango but uh and so is this good for you that's
where it gets weird it's a really good question i don't know um i don't even know how i feel about
it so what where did you get the idea
to do it everybody's doing it oh really all the kids all the crazy so i did the atkins thing i
did that like back in 2001 or something when i needed to lose whatever i did that and that that
worked like it does work it's very similar it's very similar in that you know you're just you're
eliminating carbs yeah you get your body to go into ketosis.
You're getting your body to burn fat.
Ketosis.
That's what.
The thing about the carnivore diet, though, is I actually checked my piss with a ketone strip.
And it showed that I'm not in ketosis.
So you pee on this strip.
How could you not be in ketosis?
I don't know.
I think it's because I'm eating so much meat that when you have too much protein, there's something called glucogenesis, I think it's because I'm eating so much meat that when you have too much protein,
there's something called glucogenesis, I think it's called,
where your body breaks the protein down and turns it into glucose.
And so that fucks with your ketone levels, and that keeps you from going into ketosis.
But it doesn't affect your energy level.
My energy levels have been amazing.
Like all day long, I'm flat i'm sound like
people always ask me why do you always have like that cough it's this goddamn coffee
it's layered superfood coffee it coats your throat it's delicious it is delicious i love it when you
said hey do you do you like tuberic and you want it in your coffee i'm like cut the what the fuck
in my head i was thinking these goddamn Kids today with the hair and the clothes.
The new math.
And the fucking turmeric and the coffee. Turmeric and the goddamn coffee.
Come on.
How good is it?
It is amazing.
It's amazing.
But I drink too much of it.
And I'm always like a little phlegmy because it's like in my throat.
I'm not a big on American coffee, but this is fantastic.
American coffee?
How much of it is grown in America?
Is there any coffee grown in America?
All I know is that when I go to Italy or if I go to Hawaii and I have coffee, it's always better.
Oh, Kona has the best coffee on earth.
My favorite coffee comes from Kona.
Yeah.
There's something about Hawaiian coffee.
It's the volcanic soil.
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
And that same thing in Italy.
There's volcanic soil, which is why their tomatoes taste better and their coffee tastes better.
And everything tastes better.
It's the volcanic soil.
I'm pretty sure.
I wonder what it does to pussy.
Jesus Christ.
Any questions?
I'm going to say it makes them juicier.
It makes everything better.
Right?
Just like a piece of fruit or a tomato is juicier.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's so funny you say that because out of nowhere I started talking about, on stage last night, how I hate the word vagina, but I like pussy.
The vagina word is a weird word, right?
Because who's saying that other than a doctor?
Right?
No, you're never in the middle of sex and a woman goes, take it in my vagina.
If she did, you'd go, wait, are you sure?
Oh.
What are you doing?
Are you experimenting with me?
Are you experimenting?
I don't think a woman wants to hear that.
I mean, maybe they have like cute little names for it, nicknames.
I had a joke where I would say,
I would go, I get it.
We were experimenting the other night, my wife,
and right in the middle of sex,
I took it out and I stuck it in her vagina.
Wow.
Totally different. F fits like a glove why are shock jokes fun they're fun they're fun shock jokes are fun
they're always been fun for me i don't like when people say they're cheap like no they're not cheap
they're different it's a different thing you know There's really clever Intellectual jokes And those are great too
Right
But I love
A good fucked up joke
Yeah
Especially because you think
It's going to be something clever
Yeah
And that it's just
No
Bam
Smash
Right in the face
Right in the face
Yeah
That's funny to me
It is funny
Yeah
I'm a fan of all kinds of jokes
I like all kinds of comedy
And there's a while Where like dirty comedy Was like was, like, looked down upon as if it was easier.
Well, it was Andrew Dice Clay.
So when Andrew Dice Clay happened, so a lot of people started to ape him, right, because he was very popular.
This is going back in the early 90s.
Yeah.
I don't know if you were born yet.
What?
And so comedy clubs started expanding, and they had more clubs and there were good comics.
So then they started to give free tickets away.
And so they started to book.
They wanted more generic acts that appealed to people who weren't necessarily comedy fans or whatever.
So this is my theory about what happened.
And so then they would keep it clean because we don't want to offend anybody.
It's like that's not what fucking that's not what people are.
And that's why they all closed.
You know what my opinion
on that is?
I think bad comedy sucks,
but bad dirty comedy
makes you angry.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
Well, you know what's funny
is I've noticed this.
If people watch a musician
go up and play,
like even an open mic or whatever,
and he plays a song or two
and you don't like him,
you'll still applaud
after he's done.
But if a comic goes up and he's not funny,
it's like, what the fuck does this guy think he's doing?
People get angry.
Yes, they get angry because you have to listen to the whole thing.
You can't even talk during it.
It's awful.
Yeah, so I always notice that.
You could suck as a musician, people will still applaud.
You suck as a comedian.
You know why? That's not funny! I always noticed that You could suck as a musician People will still applaud You suck as a comedian Like this fucking
You know why
Also because
That's not funny
If I go to see a musician
I at least appreciate the fact
This person can play
A musical instrument
Which I can't do
I have no musical talent at all
But I know how to talk
I can talk
Everybody can talk
And everybody
Pretty much
Everybody has said
At least one thing funny
At one point in time
So you know what it's like
Right
To say something And then it gets a laugh.
You know you can do it.
What they've done is just do it more and really put a lot of time into it and craft an act.
But when that act's terrible, you start thinking, I could fucking do that.
Why am I listening to this idiot?
Well, it was bad comics that made me think I could do comedy.
Oh, for sure.
Open mic night, right?
Oh, no.
I was watching it on TV.
Oh, interesting.
So I remember when I was in college, we got comedy, like a cable in our dorm room, right?
And so I remember I was watching the show.
I forget.
Maybe it was that one on A&E.
It doesn't matter.
You mean the improv?
No, it was that Rosie O'Donnell one.
Oh, yeah.
Remember she hosted that one?
And then Bobby Collins.
I forgot about that.
Yeah.
Fridays or something like that?
I forget what it was called, but Stand Up Spotlight, maybe.
Yeah, maybe.
I don't know.
Yeah, that was VH1, I think.
Oh, VH1 was Stand Up Spotlight.
Yeah.
So anyway, whatever.
So I'm watching, and I see this comic go up, and he does like two jokes.
I beat him to the punchline on both of them, right?
I'm like, he said what I thought he was going was gonna say and then the third one wasn't even funny he had inverted the punchline which i didn't
know that's what he did but i go he should have put that thing at the end and then afterwards i go
wait a minute that guy i'm funnier than that guy and he's on tv i think i could do this yeah right
like when i would go to clubs i would go to zany's in Chicago, and those guys would just be hilarious.
And I'm like, I could be funny for five minutes at a party, but I can't fucking do that.
But I didn't realize they were how it went.
You do an act, and you work, and you do the whole thing.
And so that's why I was like, I can't do that.
Those guys are special funny.
And then I saw guys on TV suck.
I'm like, well, I could do that.
I might not be able to go to Zadie's but I could go to T. Well there was a time during the 80's where there was so many spots
and so few comics
that some really
mediocre comics
got on television.
Yeah.
Really like mundane
nonsense bits.
Yes.
And they all had
that kind of comedy timing.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Well you're from Chicago too
which is a rough spot.
Like it's fucking cold there.
People don't take any bullshit.
It's a different kind of thing.
You know, like, those are the kind of places that make great comics.
Like, fucking cold.
Like, Boston.
Same shit.
New York.
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
That cold.
Need a little misery and a little edge.
And Hong Kong.
Fuck you.
You need a...
Yes.
There has to be a need for comedy.
Yes.
Like I was saying, it was just in Hawaii we did shows there.
I'm like, man, these people are laid back.
Yeah.
There's not a lot of great comics.
There's a few good comics that come from Hawaii, but not a lot.
Yeah.
Not a lot.
It's hard to be upset.
They have a lot of local humor.
Like the comics from Hawaii, I've seen some comics from Hawaii, and they talk about local
stuff.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
Yeah.
Just like a cruise ship.
Yeah, sort of.
Yeah, kind of like that.
Yeah, like the guys who live there, they do their whole act as local.
Yeah.
And a lot of times they're like a morning DJ guy, too, or something like that.
Think about it.
That's a pretty great life.
Pretty fucking great place to live.
Fucking great life.
You're a comic and a DJ in Hawaii?
Jesus, hey, you beat it. You did it. You really a comic and a DJ in Hawaii. Jesus, you beat it.
You did it.
You really did.
First time I went to Hawaii, I was in Maui.
I was working at some stand-up gig, booked through the Ice House.
And I get off stage and this guy comes up and we're talking.
And I said, where are you from?
He goes, I'm from Pittsburgh.
I go, really?
What did you do there?
He goes, I was a plumber.
I go, what do you do here now?
I go, he goes, I'm a plumber.
I go, how do you make it from a plumber in Pittsburgh to Maui?
He goes, well, one day I woke up and I realized I could be a plumber in Hawaii or I could
be a plumber in Pittsburgh.
It makes all the sense of the world.
It makes all the sense of the world.
Yeah.
If I was a plumber, I'd move there.
Yeah.
I know a guy who teaches jujitsu there who used to teach in, he actually gave me my first
lesson ever
in los angeles and he after a while he was like fuck this what am i doing and i can teach in maui
you know and the thing about like a place like maui there's enough people like you need everything
like it's not like like lanai we were talking about earlier that's a weird spot because there's
only 3 000 people on the whole island It's like a good theater show.
Yeah.
Like, you take a good theater show
and those people empty out
and that's the whole civilization.
Mm-hmm.
And then there's people that fly in
because it's a resort area.
But it's...
I was in Kauai one time, too,
and it's similar.
Like, after I got off stage,
I was like,
hey, where can I go
to get something to eat?
They're like,
there's no place to go.
You gotta go in the ocean and catch it.
That's where Laird lives.
Who does?
Laird.
Laird Hamilton.
He lives in Kauai.
I don't know Laird Hamilton.
That's the fucking coffee you're drinking, bro.
Oh, this guy.
We talked about him for about a half hour earlier.
I'm bad with names.
Does that work?
Is that a good enough excuse?
I'm bad with names.
Laird Hamilton is married to gabriella reese
oh that's a giant aquaman motherfucker great coffee yeah he makes killer coffee who thought
to put turmeric kawaii is uh a spot that i need to get to i've never been to that one i've never
been to that island i've only been to honolulu very briefly during a layover you know when i was
actually the first time i was going on lanai, we flew in Honolulu first,
and then you have to take like a puddle jumper to get to Lanai.
Oh, yeah.
But Lanai is like, there's nobody there, man.
And you go on the beach, there's like fucking eight other families on the beach, and everybody's just like, ah.
Everybody's just chill.
I never sleep better.
Oh my God.
I never, I mean, when I was-
Relaxing.
When I was in Hawaii, I would go to bed at midnight and wake up at 8 in the morning.
I'd sleep straight through.
You'd feel great.
This never happened.
And you'd feel great.
Ever.
Yeah.
I come back to LA, I'm immediately getting headaches.
Immediately.
I'm like, God damn it.
So I go get a drink, and I order a Mai Tai.
Believe it or not, Maui and Hawaii in general, I think they have some wonky weed laws.
I don't think weed's legal there.
No, no, it's not.
It's as medical as I think.
That's hilarious.
Yeah.
Medical.
Life is my condition.
I know.
And what do I need it for?
Life!
Yeah, but I have fans there, so they just give me some.
Uh-huh.
Do you still ever take pot from fans?
No.
Are you afraid?
Yes.
Yeah, me too.
Yes.
Just, you're asking for it.
You are, right?
Yeah. Oh, I thought I'd give you a little extra taste. I put some acid on there you're asking for it. You are, right? Yeah.
Oh, I thought I'd give you a little extra taste.
I put some acid on there for you.
I don't need that, right?
My good friend Ari Shaffir dosed Burt Kreischer when they were doing a podcast together.
So that's real?
That's real.
I thought that was a joke.
No.
He gave him Molly.
Dropped it in his drink.
So, was there hard feelings over that?
Oh yeah. There was a real problem.
I thought that was all a joke. No.
There's no jokes with us. We don't do jokes.
I mean I just saw it on Twitter.
Yeah that's real. All that shit's real.
No. Yeah. So they're not pals?
Oh they're back. Oh okay. The wife
hates him still though. Bert's wife
is still very upset.
I would have a hard time with that.
It's a real issue.
Doing something like that,
that's not right.
He knows. He knows it's not right.
What's really interesting is
we were all joking around about it.
This is the only business
where you can dose your friend.
We all joke around about it.
Laugh about it more.
Nothing happens.
And he actually got a bump in his career.
Like, he started selling out places faster.
And when he was going places, Ari would be doing shows,
and people would yell out, Dose me, Ari!
Dose me!
So now he's known for dosing people.
And before that, Ari used to do something, I should say allegedly,
because this thing, which may or may not have happened,
is very illegal, but he would do
in places where weed
was very illegal, he would play
a game called Find the Edible.
So he'd post it on Twitter,
he'd give people hints, and he would leave
some fucking nuclear
edible, like to some
North Dakota guy who's gonna find
it, who probably doesn't get any real weed
and he's gonna get one of those stars of death and uh he got in trouble i think in minnesota
oh really allegedly because i don't think they ever found any of the things he was talking about
so maybe it was all just a prank let's go with that those, man. My brother had something one time. He goes, Jimmy, be careful.
It's called the creeper.
That's what they call it.
I have a high tolerance. Don't worry.
I ate one. I'm like, nothing.
I did it. I ate another
one. About 45
minutes later, we're at a campground talking to
my parents and all of a sudden I can't remember
how to breathe.
I'm like,
how do I,
and I,
how do I,
and I'm so scared.
And I just go,
I have to go make a phone call.
I'm at a campground.
I gotta make a phone call.
So I just go to my car and I'm just laying down.
And the next thing I know, I hear my wife behind me go, are you okay?
I go, I'm not good.
I'm not good.
We have to go.
She goes, let's go say goodbye to your parents.
I can't say goodbye.
Let's just go.
Start driving.
Oh, no.
You just couldn't deal with saying goodbye.
Oh, my God.
So, yeah.
Turns out there is some danger to that drug.
Oh, well, there's danger with schizophrenia.
There's a real danger with people having schizophrenic breaks when they take high doses of edibles.
Really?
And even smoking it.
Yeah.
Well, like you were talking about, you get the withdrawals.
Yeah.
I don't get the withdrawals, but there's a small percentage of people that do.
There's a small percentage.
Yeah.
So that must be like, so people are like, oh, aren't you going to quit?
No.
Just stay high. If I dropped drinking coffee when I went overseas, I would get headaches too, right?
So there's a lot of things like that.
Yeah.
Coffee is one thing that's addictive that we all just admit.
It's just.
And we just accept it.
Yeah.
And we're addicted to it.
Because it doesn't really change your state that much where you're like freaking out.
Like you never drink a cup of coffee.
You're like, man, I can't get up.
You're never on the ground tweaking.
But I know a couple people who have had legitimate schizophrenic breaks.
No kidding.
Yeah.
You know a couple?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah, legitimate ones.
Legitimate ones.
Legitimate ones where like something happened
and then they were never the same again what is schizophrenia literally yeah well i've heard
about that with acid but i never heard about that with well it's not that much difference when you
take a high level dose it can get psychedelic of edibles yeah yeah i've had that it's a different
where you feel like you're trippingpping a little and you're experiencing the...
God save me from the comments, but people get mad at me when I talk about this.
But there's a thing that happens when you...
Because I've talked about it so many times and I know I'm a repetitive fuck.
But when you eat marijuana, your body produces something called 11-hydroxy metabolite.
It's four to five times more psychoactive than THC.
So as it's processed by the
liver you get something that's not psychoactive in the smoked form so when you smoke it you get
thc when you eat it you get 11 hydroxy metabolite it's much much stronger much stronger than thc
and it's a totally different sensation you know like people talk about the body high like yeah
you're like oh you feel it everywhere yeah you really tweak out too but
small doses of that are wonderful like a little like they have these uh jumbo has these sprays
i don't have one with me here i used to have one on the desk but um it's a thc spray just a couple
of pumps really yeah it's like a breath spray a couple of pumps and it's like god you feel great
you feel really yeah You feel wonderful.
Yeah, but if you take 12 pumps, I took 12 pumps once.
I did a podcast with Sam Harris.
In the middle of, I took the pumps like 20 minutes before he got here,
and then in the middle of the podcast, I'm like, holy shit.
I don't know if I can.
Thank God Sam is like a super articulate guy,
so I could just kind of like throw a question his way and he would just expand
while he's expanding and talking.
I was pretending to listen,
but really just trying to keep it together,
trying to keep it together and,
and,
and make sure that I try to sober myself up.
I was like trying to force myself into a state of sobriety.
I have a,
it was about a thousand milligrams.
Yeah.
I have a hard enough time
Paying attention to conversations
When I'm not
Yeah
When I'm just completely sober
I'll lose my train of thought
Me too
And I'm like
What are the
Or I'll be
Especially if I'm bored
Right
Yeah
Not even that
Even if I'm super interested
I'm interviewing someone
And all of a sudden
I'm like
Oh fuck I'm not listening
I'm thinking about that thing
And then
They stop talking And I'm like Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha thinking about that thing. And then they stop talking, and I'm like, ha!
Oh, you can't do that.
That's the cardinal sin.
That's one thing I don't think I do.
At least I don't, I can't remember.
I try to really lock in.
Me too, but then I just, my mind will just get, oh.
So I was interviewing Tulsi, and so we came to this important part of the conversation.
It was about how she had switched or something about some policy she had.
So I asked her about it, and I know people are waiting.
And there was a documentarian guy in there with her, and his phone went off at that moment.
I asked the question, but it didn't go off like a ring.
It went off like a scene from a movie.
So now I'm like, what is that? Who's talking? from a movie. So now I'm like, what is that?
Who's talking?
And then all of a sudden I'm like, what is going on?
And then after I realized that it's this guy's phone
and it's a scene from a movie.
But Tulsi's been talking this whole time.
Oh, no.
So then I come back and then she stops.
And I'm like, I don't know what the fuck she just said.
Well, that's why you don't want someone else in the room
while you're having conversations.
No, no doubt.
One time I was talking to a guy, and his girlfriend was sitting right there, and she just kept
spinning in her chair and playing with her phone, spinning in her chair and playing with
her phone.
And I'm trying to pay attention to him, but I'm just seeing this girl spinning in her
chair and playing with her phone.
And then afterwards, I was like, no more.
No more people in here.
Because sometimes people try to come in here, and then you'll see them hold a camera up
to take a picture while the podcast is over.
I'm like, hey, you're fucking this thing up, man.
This is a distraction.
Yeah.
I don't do live ones.
You do live ones.
Live what?
Live podcasts.
Yeah.
That's a different thing, though, because you know you're going to be live.
Yeah.
This isn't?
I mean live in front of a group of humans.
Oh, you mean with an audience.
Yeah, but this isn't live either.
Oh, so that's not live.
We stopped doing them live, too.
It's not live.
This isn't live?
No.
There's a reason for that.
Oh, that's good.
Oh.
Why?
Want to edit something out?
No, because often, the other day on my show, so like when we were in the green room, me,
Graham, and Ron Placoma were going to do a show, so we'll say things funny to each other that you can't say in public.
Like South Park.
Right, right.
And so we were saying it, and it's funny to us.
And then I was on the show with Ron, and we were talking about it.
I go, remember when, and I almost said it.
And I was like, oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
So you know that.
You know.
Yeah, I do know.
How come South Park gets away with that?
They're the best.
Because first of all, it's cartoons.
They don't even look remotely human.
And they've been around for so long, they're grandfathered in.
They go fucking hard.
They're so important.
You see the one with the Harley Davidson motorcycle riders where they called them all...
I don't even know if I can say it.
They could say it.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
They called them all the F word?
The N's and the T?
Yes. Yes. Yes. and many more things like that good it was they still play it on the on tv like
yes how come they can play it on tv i can't say it well do you remember a time there was a time
where they used to show those old roadrunner cartoons yes where they were hyper violent
yeah they were blowing things up and hitting each other in the head with frying pans and
shooting each other in the face.
And it was okay.
Pushing them off a mountain.
Because it was old.
And so the new cartoons were all sanitized and nerfed up, but the old ones were still
on.
But you would watch the old ones go, oh, yeah, yeah, this is what it used to be like.
Well, I watched some old Popeye the other day, and Bluto is basically a fucking rapist.
Yes, thank you.
Yes.
A straight up rapist, just grabbing olive oil.
Yeah.
Like big fat face with his crazy beard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's like, ah!
She's trying to fight him off, and Popeye's like, hey, let go of me, Goyle.
Yeah.
And he has to punch her! She's trying to fight him off. And Popeye's like, hey, let go of me, Goyle. And he has to punch her or punch him.
He fights with Bluto.
Bluto was a rapist.
He dragged her away.
That's what that was.
It's a fucking, it's like 100 years ago, right?
It's basically 100 years ago.
Popeye was like 1930.
It's like almost 100 years ago.
And humans were just living different back then.
I think rape was probably really prevalent,
so prevalent that you could joke around about it in a fucking cartoon.
Yeah, and so you don't go live now because?
Well, a bunch of channels started creating their own channels with my clips,
and so this is what can happen.
So if you have a channel and then someone says,
hey, I'm going to take all your clips
I'm going to take the interesting parts of your podcast
I'm going to make my own channel
And then they can get like hundreds of thousands of subscribers
With all of your content
And then they can have whatever they want
So then they can use it as a white power
Fucking YouTube channel
They have 500,000 subscribers
They can use it as a men's rights channel.
They can use it as, you know, they could just switch it over and say it's not about Jimmy
Dore anymore.
Now it's about Bill Burr.
And they just use your content, which is not legal.
And I was like, when they were doing it while we were doing the show.
So while we were doing the show, they were making clips and then uploading them as we
were live.
While you're still going.
Yeah.
So they're doing it in real time.
So.
Okay.
I got it.
Wow.
So we realized that those can be taken down, and then we started doing it ourselves, and
then we realized the only way to really stop them from doing it in real time is to do it,
like film it, have the podcast filmed, and then have the clips cut up and then release
it.
Okay. Oh, okay. then release it. Okay.
Oh, okay.
That's one.
Okay.
That's a big one.
The other one was copyright.
There's a real problem with copyright strikes.
If you get three strikes, they fucking pull your channel.
So do you ever get one?
We've gotten them.
We've gotten them before.
For shit that we show.
We've gotten them before for shit that we show in the corner of the screen.
The corner of the screen, like a photograph or a video or a little tiny thing in the corner of a screen we had one where we got one from a
fucking a guy took a film uh from his uh like it was like a cell phone of a satellite being launched
like the and we were watching it like watch the video we got a copyright strike from that
like just watching something that was on the internet you can't do it you can't people own these things the big one is nature videos those fucking nature videos when
you're seeing like a pack of hyenas try to take out a lion if you play that that's a copyright
strike they will get you for that so i had a copyright strike recently a first one only one
we've ever had right that's a strike not like hey we're going to demonetize
totally different i get that all the time yeah that's all the time but a strike is serious
because they can take your channel down if you get two more of them so and when they do that
they have to put they put a stamp you know time stamp of what is the copy written audio right
and someone had put a copyright strike on it at the end of every one of my videos it goes do do do do do and it's
just from itunes right it's not it's non-royalty thing it's just it's like a it's a chime it's not
even music right so it's from garage band or something yes from garage band right yeah and
so that's royalty free and so somebody put a copyright strike on that and i'm like that's
just someone messing with me that's just so a hater. And some guy from Canada who's now living in Thailand, I had a guy track him down.
And he's like, yeah, he has no obvious source of revenue.
Unless he's trolling you.
So he's saying, the guy who investigated said he thinks it's intelligence.
And so the reason why he took that claim on that was to show that he could take down every one of my videos
Because that chimes in every one of my videos
So for a while
So until that copyright strike got cleared up
I don't have a liaison
It took a while
So we took that chime out
Of all our videos
Jesus Christ
Yeah
Yeah so that's
So I don't
Yeah YouTube is weird
But they're dealing with managing an insane amount of content.
Yeah, I don't know.
Insane amount.
And they always err on the side of the copyright holder, and I get why they do that.
They do it automatically.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I mean, we've gotten copyright hits for a screenshot, you know, when you see the video,
and there's like two heads, and there's a small photograph in the screenshot.
Mm-hmm.
When you see the video and there's like two heads and there's a small photograph, a screenshot.
The screenshot was a photo that someone had took and they were claiming copyright on that photo that was just on the internet.
Just because we had it in our screen.
We had to change the photo.
Really?
Yeah, dude.
It's fucking.
I know.
And it's weird because like some people, like you have a podcast that's just audio, right?
So yeah, I have an audio and video And video
Some people don't
Some people only have the video
And then that video goes away
The
You count on that
YouTube monetization
Like there's a lot of people
That did that
They counted on that
YouTube money
And then YouTube
Demonetizes things
Just
Randomly
Like it doesn't make any
Like I've had a bunch of podcasts
With Tom Papa
That were
Demonetized
I'm like that is the
Fucking
Craziest thing
Yeah he is the like
The nicest
Right
He's not gonna offend
Yeah he's not offensive
He's hilarious
He's a sweetheart
Yeah
Like Tom Papa
Like how many did they
Demonetize a Tom Papa
It was like two or three right
To the point where Papa
Got like really paranoid
And he was thinking
Do you think someone
On YouTube doesn't like me
There's something going on.
So he wanted to contact some people at YouTube
and he went down this journey.
I remember he was hosting a pilot on,
I don't know, like TBS or something.
And I got called in to like,
do like a run through of it or whatever.
And I remember I walked up to him and I go,
hey, Tom, how do you get your own TV show?
I really want to get one.
And he goes, here's what you do.
You have to overextend yourself.
Why a house you can't afford.
So you get desperate.
That's a good move.
Good advice.
Yeah, and you got it.
You got to make this happen.
Could you imagine going back to regular TV now, though, with all the freedom that you have?
No, I can't.
No, I can't. I can't even imagine going to the radio. now, though, with all the freedom that you have? No. I can't. No.
I can't even imagine going to the radio.
Right.
I just got in trouble.
I just got in trouble, right?
So I have a show.
It's on KPFK.
They're all nice people.
But you can't.
Because they're a nonprofit, there's certain things you can't do.
Like you can't over-endorse.
Like I had a candidate on.
And you're not supposed to endorse.
And you can't go, hey, go to their website and donate.
You can't say any of that stuff.
So, yeah, it's just that.
I'm like, oh, my God. So how'd you get in trouble?
What'd you do?
So I did that.
With who?
So that guy, Cenk Uygur.
Oh.
He's running for that 25th.
Right.
Dude, what the New York Times did to him was dirty.
That was dirty.
I shouldn't say the New York Times.
I should say that writer.
Whoever that writer is.
It was the whole, but there was the LA Times.
It was an unbelievable smirk.
But the New York Times one was the one where they tried to say that his conversation with David Duke,
where he was like, oh, of course you're not racist.
It was as clear as day that he was joking.
As clear as day that he was being sarcastic.
Talking to David fucking Duke. The grand wizard of the KKK. And he's like, oh, you're not racist. it's clear as day that he was being sarcastic and so talking to david fucking duke yeah the grand
wizard of the kkk and he's like oh you're not racist of course you're not racist and then they
take that and put it in quotes he said to david duke of course you're not racist that's right so
that's that's like mr smith goes to washington shit dirty but i i couldn't believe that was the
new york times that hurt that one hurt. Because I was like, who the...
You think it's funny?
Yes.
I'm like, I can't even...
The New York Times is horrible.
Oh, don't say that.
They are horrible.
That's all I've got left.
Do you don't...
No, no.
That's all I've got left.
You've got me, Joe.
I've got you.
You've got me.
You've got Kyle Kalinsky.
Oh, I do.
I do have Kyle.
Right?
I love Kyle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I saw you.
I saw your interview with Kyle.
I love Kyle.
I heard the shit you said.
We were talking yesterday.
I heard the shit you said.
I said good things about you. Always. Oh, did you? I didn't get that far in. Always. I love Kyle. I heard the shit you said. We were talking yesterday. I heard the shit you said. I said good things about you.
Always.
Oh, did you?
I didn't get that far in.
Always.
I love you.
I quit after you told him
he was your favorite news show.
Oh, you're my number two.
Oh, thanks.
Is that better?
I'll take it.
I think he's the most reasonable
of all the political commentators,
but you're a comedian
and a political commentator.
Right.
I think you have a dual purpose.
So I have a special category.
Yeah, well, you're funnier
than him for sure.
Oh, that's sweet.
That's all I care about.
He texted me yesterday. New York have a special category. Yeah, well, you're funnier than him for sure. Oh, that's sweet. That's all I care about. He texted me yesterday.
New York City was 68 degrees.
Yes.
He was like, what in the fuck is going on?
But then he's like, I feel bad because I feel so happy.
Because, like, seasonal depression.
You know when it's sunny out and 68 degrees?
He's like, yeah, everything's great.
Meanwhile, the world's on fire.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, whatever.
It's warm.
It is warm.
Yeah. No, Oh, whatever. It's warm. It is warm. Yeah.
No, he's great.
That's the beautiful thing about having corrupt and dishonest media is that it opens a door
for honest media like you and independent guys like yourself, like Pac-Man, Kalinsky.
It's easy.
There's quite a few.
It's easy to outdo them.
And MSNBC or CNN or-
It really hurts hearing the freight from a guy I respect.
The New York Times is horrible.
That's always been what I trusted.
Me too.
I know.
It was tough.
It was tough when I realized that mainstream news media is just the mouthpiece for the establishment when it really matters.
They're for every war.
They're for every war.
They're repeaters.
How do we get into Iraq? They got
Judith Miller to uncritically
put whatever Dick Cheney told her on the
front page. That's why they have aluminum tubes.
Front page of the New York Times, and then
Dick Cheney tells Judith Miller
they have aluminum tubes. She prints
it on the front page of the New York Times.
Dick Cheney then goes on Meet the Press and says, look, even the
New York Times is reporting this.
Oh, God.
That's how they do it.
And then Judith Miller, she gets an on-air job on Fox News after that.
She got rewarded.
There's that, and then there's probably also access to candidates, access to top officials.
Access journalism.
If you don't give them what they want, they don't give you access, and this is sort of
the game that they've always played.
Right.
That's exactly right.
That they have access,, I've experienced it.
But what do you think, why do you think they want to smear Cenk?
I mean, like.
Because they see him as an enemy of the Democratic Party because he wants to get money out of politics.
Right.
So that's his big thing.
He has Wolfpack.
And his whole thing is I don't take corporate money.
And the Justice Democrats, they don't take corporate.
So that's his whole thing.
Right.
It's about getting money out of politics. and they want to keep money in politics.
Because if you get money out of politics, their whole grift is over.
Right.
Right.
The Neera Tanden's, the Debbie Washington.
Nancy Pelosi is not worth $100 million anymore.
That's right.
How does she get $100 million? How do you go from zero to $100 million as you're in Congress?
Well, you're a criminal.
That's what Truman said.
Yeah.
There's the only kind of people who get rich while in government a criminal. That's what Truman said. Yeah. There's the only kind of people who get
rich while in government are criminals. That's what Truman said.
But there's, like, isn't it some, like,
there's forms of insider trading that are
legal if you're in
Congress that wouldn't be legal
if you were a regular citizen?
I don't, I know that they don't have
the rules that they should. Right. I know that.
There's rules that, I
shouldn't say a regular citizen, but if you were, like, working for a corporation, there's rules that i shouldn't say a regular citizen but if you were like working for a corporation there's rules like they're allowed
to get information and influence in terms of like how they invest oh right that's not right
right that's that's extra information that i could get exactly yeah that's right extra and then
they're allowed to get that information and then they're allowed to use it for their own personal
profit like somehow or another that's not been stomped out yeah and that was someone there was a video and i don't
know if it's accurate where someone was explaining how nancy pelosi made all that money and i was
like if i watch this fucking thing i'm gonna stay up all night it was one of those like i can't watch
any more of this yeah well i do we have a hundred millionaire is the leader of the people's party
isn't that amazing not only that like what did, what did you do? Did you sell hats? Like, where'd you
make that money? What do you
do? Do you make cars? So, why do you think Nancy
Pelosi impeached Trump but didn't
impeach George Bush? I don't know.
I'll tell you. Tell me.
As Julian Assange revealed through
WikiLeaks, it was because
Nancy Pelosi was told in 2002
that our government was torturing
people.
And she was a person in a position of power.
And the reason why the Republicans and George Bush administration did that was so now they've got Democrats complicit in their crimes.
And so she didn't tell anybody about it.
She didn't launch an investigation.
She didn't blow the whistle on this.
So now she's complicit.
So when George Bush went to when the Republicans lose the House and she becomes leader and they go, you're going're going to impeach him she goes impeachment's off the table and nobody can figure it out
but nobody pushed her on it because we were just so glad
we had a check on George Bush
at that time well Julian Assange then reveals
there's the memo that shows
that she was briefed in 2002
on their torture program which makes her
complicit in torture because she didn't do a god damn thing about it
did you see the interview that I did
with Edward Snowden?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I saw the first half.
It was very interesting.
Yeah, he danced.
Nancy Pelosi came up.
Oh, yeah?
It came up that she was one of the people that cleared,
that made it so that these cell phone companies have access to your data
and can spy on you and use it the government can
use cell phones and all sorts of telecommunications and essentially video your your uh voicemail
emails all that shit all that all that shit can can get spied through and there was it was very
complicated like i don't i don't remember the exact thing that the the i don't remember the exact scam like but pelosi was involved in that there you go
i mean they're all corrupt that's the whole that's that that's kind of like the mission of my show is
to remind people how we got trump people want to pretend that uh uh corruption and lying started
in january 2017 the afghan Afghanistan papers just came out, Joe,
that revealed that three administrations in a row
lied completely, 100% about Afghanistan
from the day they took over to the day they left.
Stuff like Donald Rumsfeld saying,
we don't even know who the bad guys are.
We have no idea who they are.
Well, why are we there?
Well, maybe because of the couple trillion dollars
in rare earth minerals.
I don't know.
Do you really think that?
Maybe it's...
We would go to war for minerals?
Come on.
That's crazy.
We would try to steal somebody's natural resources.
Do we use upset at what a small story it was?
I'm upset.
That those papers came out and then no one really even talked about it.
And barely got nothing.
Nothing.
It justifies everything Tulsi Gabbard has been saying.
These wars are a lie and bullshit and we got to get out of them.
And that she's not the one lying about them.
The one that's been lying about them has been our government, including Barack Obama.
That's what the Afghanistan papers prove, that we've been lied to forever.
Tell people what the papers say.
So what happened was they did a study, just like the Pentagon Papers, right? They do their own
study that reveals that they're lying.
So they interviewed 400 people
that were like in the military, generals
and the military and contractors and all
these kind of people to find out
so they could know what would happen in Afghanistan.
So they revealed all this.
The people who they were interviewing revealed
all this that at the beginning of the war, they
didn't know who the bad, they still don't know who's the bad guys, who we're killing who they were interviewing revealed all this that at the beginning of the war they didn't know who the bad they still don't know who's the bad guys who were killing they were
lying about they would lie that it's going well and then their personal writings would be revealing
that they didn't know what the hell they were doing and so it was it's worse than you think
but we can still just keep sending four billion dollars a month there just keep sending it just
keep sending it for what no one knows we're not leaving trump didn't take us out it's gonna it's he's up for re-election in a couple more months
we're still in afghanistan he didn't do what he said he was gonna do nobody does that's the problem
and that's why we got trump in the first place because barack obama comes in as an anti-war guy
immediately gets rolled by the military industrial complex just like trump did i believe that i i did
believe that trump i did believe
that trump his druthers would get the hell out of the middle east right but he doesn't really have
any druthers he's like okay i'm done doing that because they've rolled me hard enough three years
of russia gate i'm gonna do what they want well you saw the conversation that he had with one
reporter we talked about the military industrial complex and about how they want to go to war yes
i mean trump like actively while in office this and this is like an Eisenhower thing, like
as he's leaving, while in office, is talking about the military, and it barely got mentioned.
I know.
And so I think that's why the establishment wants to get rid of Trump.
Even though he does their bidding, gives them their trillion dollar tax cuts, nobody asks
how we're going to pay for it.
He gives them, he tries to go into Venezuela.
He tried to do what, you know, he's doing Iran. He didn't come out. We didn't get out of Syria.
We're not out of Afghanistan. He's sending more people back to Iraq. It's amazing what's happened.
The exact opposite of what he ran on is happening. So why do I think this happens? It's because
just what Eisenhower said as he left.
He says the undue influence of the military-industrial complex.
And Joe, imagine, they just invented $131 billion more worth of work for Raytheon and Boeing and Halliburton.
How much money does the recording music business make a year?
$80 billion?
I mean, how much does it?
We've just invented a whole other economy.
Just since Trump got elected, 131 extra billion.
I mean, just think what you could do with that.
You could build 131 Yankee stadiums every year.
Non-cynically, do you think that a lot of this impeachment stuff and a lot of the scandal stuff
is really a distraction for a lot of these things they're pushing through?
Yes, it's 100% distraction.
And just like I told you, because if they really believe that he was doing all these things and he was,
why would they keep giving him extra money to go bomb people at his own behest?
They don't try to put handcuffs on him.
So that's how you know they're full of shit.
And the reason why they're coming at Trump in the way, there's ways to,
so now they're starting to oppose him because of this Iran thing.
So now you turn on CNN and Chris Cuomo goes, hey, why doesn't Congress do its job and take back the war powers that they gave to the president under this AUM?
So now, which is what I predicted would happen when Trump, the silver lining of a Trump presidency was all the shit that the Democrats and Republicans have been agreeing on, which is war, fracking, opening the Arctic to drilling, all that stuff, gassing immigrants at the border. Now we're all going to become aware
of it. Well, the Democrats spent three years doing frickin' Russiagate, so they didn't ever
oppose him on that stuff, and they let him keep doing it. And so now people are starting to become
aware of what's happening. And so now Chris Cuomo is going, hey, why doesn't Congress do their job? Why are you letting crazy President Trump?
Well, they just gave him 131.
They gave him his spying powers.
Again, through the Patriot Act.
This guy who's working for Putin, you're going to give him spying powers?
You fucking bullshitter.
They're all fucking bullshitters.
It's a weird scam.
Yeah, Joe, if you thought a guy was working for Putin,
would you give him an extra $131 billion to go bomb anybody at his own pace?
By the way, that's also intelligence.
Is that a rhetorical question?
Yes.
Yes.
So that's why people give me a hard time about supporting Tulsi.
I think it's really important to have an anti-war voice that speaks from experience.
She's actually in the military right now.
She actually volunteered to go serve in their illegal wars, and then they smear her for it.
It's kind of amazing.
Well, she's a weird one, right?
Because she has so many characteristics that you would think that everyone who's a progressive would want as a president she is a a veteran who twice served overseas
twice deployed she's been a veteran for a long time long time congresswoman um she's from hawaii
she's uh i mean i guess she's hawaiian you would say she's a woman of color they say she's a woman
of color what color she's like a like a beige she's tanner
than me is she well she lives in hawaii that's why yeah i don't know i don't know about these
things i'm white i don't know it is really i mean the hawaiian roots are essentially uh polynesian
and south pacific travelers who landed thousands of years ago on those islands so yeah i mean it
is essentially a person of color either way she, she's a very articulate, rock-solid woman,
and they've tried to find a bunch of dirt on her, and they can't.
And they don't know what to do.
And it's just funny to me that a lot of people who were supporting Elizabeth Warren
were shitting on Tulsi as hard as they can.
And of course, Elizabeth Warren shows her true colors.
She does a right-wing sexist smear on Bernie Sanders is what's happening.
That was weird.
This is such, what a crazy thing to do.
It was a fake smear.
Like, nobody's buying that.
So it was her, the media, and the DNC got together, and they're like, hey, let's do this.
Because it was coordinated.
This didn't come out of nowhere.
Right.
And CNN, did you see that story?
CNN wrote these two people who heard it from these other two people who we're not even going to name.
And that's on CNN.
That's CNN.
That's how they do it.
That's so crazy.
It's so crazy.
Yes.
They're digging their own grave, though.
What they're doing is they're making themselves less and less relevant, and they're making
guys like you and independent people more and more relevant and more and more trustworthy.
And that's why they keep going to the catnip of Russiagate or Trump's tweets or whatever,
impeachment and this phone call to the thing.
And look how the media phone call to the thing.
And, you know, look how the media runs interference for the establishment.
It's amazing, like, you know, to pretend that the Bidens aren't corrupt.
I know.
Hilarious.
And to have people come on and go, that's a lie.
That's no corruption.
It's been looked into.
There's no corruption that a guy has an $83,000 job on a board in a country his dad just helped overthrow.
What are you, fucking crazy?
That seems like it might be a little corrupt.
Well, the conversation where he tells the prosecutor that if he's not gone, you don't get the billion dollars. Right.
What do you know?
They fired the guy.
Right.
You saw that video.
So, yeah, I saw that video.
But their defense to that is they're saying, but that prosecutor was corrupt.
And the next guy was even more tougher of an investigator. But that guy was
investigating Burismo at the time.
And that guy did say later,
that guy who got fired said, I got fired because I was
investigating Burismo. He said that in a court document.
So,
believe me, they're all...
Why didn't they impeach Trump on
the emoluments clause? Why didn't they do that?
Why did they do it on this bullshit?
So that's him benefiting off his position in government. It's because
they all do it! Right.
Why do you think? Because it would
bring up everything! It would have
to, right? That's right. Hey, Hillary Clinton, I mean,
Chelsea Clinton just got a $9 million job for
She deserves it. Oh my god, she
did. She did. She's the best.
So, and people are saying
that. People are saying, what's wrong with a woman using
her degree? She has three degrees.
I wonder how she was able to afford those three degrees.
I wonder.
She overcame all those obstacles?
She did.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So they're all corrupt.
Then that's the story, and that's why we have Donald Trump.
And they're clinging to this system.
That's why we don't have a functioning medical system or a functioning banking system,
because Barack Obama was
paid off by the
health insurance companies and the Wall Street
banks. And that's not me saying that. That's Dylan
Radigan, award-winning Bloomberg reporter,
says that. How'd they pay him off?
Well,
he has a, I don't know if you noticed, he just
bought a house at Martha's Vineyard from
the guy who owns the Celtics. But he sells hats
or something. He has 49 acres.
He's got a lot of money.
That's more acres than Kevin Hart.
Wow.
That's a lot of acres.
That is a lot of acres.
Yeah.
That's the guy who's a community organizer.
I guess it was a gated community.
But how do they pay him off?
Fucking love comedy.
How does that work where it's legal?
How does the president get paid off?
When he left the presidency, he goes windsurfing with Branson for a while, right?
As we still don't have clean water in Flint.
And then when he comes back in the public life, the first thing he does, he goes to make speeches for equity firms.
He had a half a million to pop for a 20-minute speech.
What do you think that is?
What do you think all this is?
It's a bribe.
It's an after-the-fact bribe.
Yes.
Yeah.
But it's amazing that they still honor that, that they're so rock solid in their commitment
to this corrupt system that even after the guy can't even help him anymore, he's out
of office, they hook him up with these speaking jobs.
Right.
He gets a half a million bucks a pop and then whatever he wants to do yeah wasn't that a thing
about the clinton foundation where uh bill clinton would he would make sure that he got speaking gigs
along with the weapons deals that she was giving yes yeah this is correct yeah they're hundreds
everybody's again they're dirty we didn't get trump because the democratic party was doing their job weapons deals that she was giving. Yes. Yeah. This is correct. Yeah. There are hundreds. Everybody's, again.
They're dirty.
We didn't get Trump because the Democratic Party was doing their job.
Right.
The people got desperate and decided to take a chance on a political novice game show host
who they knew was a bullshitter.
Everybody knows Trump's a bullshitter.
They were like, good, go bullshit those people we hate.
Yeah.
And that's deceit.
And I've been imploring the bernie campaign which nobody
listens to me so it doesn't matter why don't they listen to you uh i i don't know maybe because i
communicate in a caustic way joe but i i i've been trying to bernie is uh should be wiping
the floor with these candidates he it shouldn't even be close, right?
And so I've been imploring them,
Bernie, take the gloves off.
Would you quit turning to Joe Biden
and saying, my best friend, Joe Biden,
you got to do what Trump did,
what Trump was running.
He ran against the Republican Party.
He ran against all those pukes
that the people are sick and tired of,
that the people have been let down by.
These are the people who took you to Iraq.
These are the people who took you to Libya. These are the people who took you to Iraq. These are the people who took you to Libya.
These are the people who are bankrupting you.
So that's what he did.
And Bernie gets up and he goes, Joe, my good friend, I just want to let you know you're corrupt.
It's like quit saying you're friends with these fucking guys who are corrupt.
Quit doing just – he could land it.
He should turn, and I've been begging – he came close in the last debate.
He kind of came –
Do it in his voice.
Tell – what should he say?
I'm not good at impressions.
Mike McCray is the best.
You got right there.
That was a pretty good one.
Joe Biden, the reason why you can't understand how Medicare for All works is because you're corrupt.
And you're paid not to understand.
And we're going to get rid of your brand of corruption when I'm president.
Because you're the problem.
Oh, my God. People would go crazy? The place would go fucking crazy. your brand of corruption when i'm president because you're the problem oh my god people
go crazy the place would go fucking crazy elizabeth warren would stand up for joe biden
that's right i'm a sexist piece of shit that's right and everybody would see what the game is
wasn't he like always in support of elizabeth biden yeah elizabeth biden elizabeth biden
elizabeth warren wasn't he always in support of her joe biden yeah no no no no bernie sanders
yeah there he was always in support of yes so elizabeth yeah no no no no bernie sanders yeah there was always in support
of yes so elizabeth warren was like hey bernie's policies are pretty popular i'll pretend like
they're mine yeah well she was a republican people forget that until she was 47 years old
yeah right forget that yeah well while bernie was running around telling people that a woman
could be president she was still a republican yes fyi yeah so it's amazing that you know it's like if anybody gonna
vote for elizabeth warren over bernie it's like vaping that's what i say it's like just smoke the
real thing there's a real thing right well there's a lot of people out there that still just want a
woman president that's right yeah and i understand i understand that but you you got you can't let
identity trump policy you gotta you you know, that's identity politics.
Well, we're going to have a woman who's not as good as a guy.
We'll have a woman who could be.
It's like, no, you're supposed to marry them together.
You know, you can't just because of her identity, that's not good.
Trump's going to torture her.
If she makes it, if she becomes the nominee, that Pocahontas shit.
She couldn't handle Meghan McCain the other day.
On The View, Did you see that?
How Meghan McCain
twisted into a pretzel
to get her to say
Soleimani was a terrorist?
It was unbelievable
the way she did.
Did she really?
Why don't you say
he's a terrorist though?
And then she does that.
Do it, but puff your cheeks out.
No?
What the fuck?
How do you get away with shit?
What do you mean?
What did I do?
I don't know.
I'm just saying.
I said puff your cheeks out Is that a problem?
I don't
Are we supposed to pretend
She's not fat?
Who?
Who?
Who are we talking about?
Who are we talking about?
Have you ever seen Tim Dillon
Do his version of
Meghan McCain?
No
Oh I'm gonna get you
Something beautiful right now
Oh really?
I'm gonna show you
Something amazing
So there's this tape
Somebody put together
Of Meghan McCain
Saying my father Have you seen that one Where she says it over And over and over Yes So I started I was in Ventura, California Oh, really? I'm going to show you something amazing. So there's this tape somebody put together of Meghan McCain saying,
My father.
Have you seen that one where she says it over and over and over?
Yes.
So I started.
I was in Ventura, California.
I was playing that clip.
Like, as a joke.
Like, we're all going to laugh.
There was almost a fucking riot at my show.
People made me stop playing it.
They didn't want to see it.
At first, I thought they were, like, cheering, because they cheer often at my show.
And then I'm like, oh, no, they're screaming.
Oh, Ventura's a sketchy spot.
Ventura's like, why?
You know, it's one of them torrents places.
What are you doing here?
Watch this.
Play it from the beginning and give me some volume.
Okay, watch this.
This is Tim Dillon.
Before my father died, I had a baby with him.
And it will be raised in captivity.
It will be raised privately captivity it will be raised
privately
to be the greatest
politician that has ever lived
my name is
Meghan McCain
and I'm on a news show
called The View
and Donald Trump
that fucking
riverboat casino captain
is talking shit
about my father again
my father was tortured
for a hundred years
for this fucking country
and he came back
and he started
seven wars
because he's a gentleman
fuck you trump i'm gonna wear my father's skin mask and i'm gonna primary trump from the right
come on the view bitch if you're that tough come on the view you want an alessandra
you want this shit you want to fuck these tits trump you want to fuck these tits, Trump. You want to fuck these tits? No, you don't. You want to suck cock.
But I won't fuck you because the only person I'll fuck is daddy.
I'll fuck his corpse.
I'll fuck daddy's corpse.
He's the best.
That impression.
I had a baby.
The reason it kept it.
The reason it kept it. Raised it and kept it.
He's an animal.
Wow, who is that?
Tim Dillon.
Oh, that's funny.
Hilarious comic.
He's a New York guy.
He's out here now.
Oh, that's funny.
Oh my God.
Don't you love being a comedian?
Oh, I love it.
I love guys like him.
That to me is, that's, there's not a fucking
filter to be found.
Not a filter to be found.
He's just,
he's got the hair.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's gay, too.
So he's got like,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's got like a free pass
to get wild.
When you're gay,
you can get away with more shit.
I know, don't you wish
I wish I was gay
You can say crazy shit about women
Lots of stuff
He went around as
Jeffrey Epstein's temple
He dressed up like
Jeffrey Epstein's temple
Which by the way
That temple is fucking
How strange is that
That it's the same colors
As the Israeli flag
Jesus Christ Oh yeah Yeah Oh yeah same colors as the Israeli flag?
Jesus Christ. Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It looks like the Israeli flag.
Okay.
Yeah.
Who's that, Chuck Schumer walking away from him?
Yeah.
He looks like Chuck Schumer.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
That was funny.
Thanks for playing that.
Oh, he's hilarious.
He does a lot of shit.
He works.
Like, he puts in a lot of time.
He does a lot of things.
A lot of content. Oh, yeah? He puts out a lot of shit. He does a lot of things. A lot of content.
Oh, yeah?
He puts out a lot of shit.
Yeah, and he's a really funny comic, too.
I got to do more comedy.
What's been going on?
You haven't been doing a lot?
I go out, but it's like I don't drive as far as I should.
Oh.
Do you go to the store at all?
You know what?
I've never worked at the store.
How dare you?
I did actually send an email.
I go, hey, I want to do my show down at the store in La Jolla.
Yeah?
Because I want to go to San Diego again in June.
I love La Jolla.
Do you?
Oh, that club is one of the greatest clubs in the world.
The store down there?
That store down there is perfect.
It's perfect.
It's like a perfect comedy club.
I sent an email.
I didn't get it in return.
Oh, no.
Well, they're probably booked.
They're so booked.
Everything's booked
Yeah I bet
You know the store
Has never been more popular
Right now it's sold out
Every night
Yeah I know
I should start going there
I just gotta get out
Of my ass
I just gotta get off
You know I go to
Flappers
Which is in Burbank
So it's real close
To my house
And I go up
I go up there a couple
Times a week
And it feels good
Then I go to the
Comedy Magic Club
On the weekend
It's a good club
That's a great club And I go to the comedy magic club on the weekend it's good club that's a great club and then and i go to the improv randomly yeah
and uh so that's that's pretty much my how often are you getting up a week just maybe you know two
or three times that's not too bad that's not too bad it's not good yeah i'm doing three sets tonight
see that's what i'm talking about yeah you gotta do a lot Comedy is reps It's all about reps It's all about reps
It's like Alan
My friend Alan Havy
Goes to New York
And now he works at that
The comedy cellar
And they have like
Three venues now
So he just has to make
One call
And he gets three sets a night
And I'm like
Oh
If I could just go out
And he didn't have to travel far
It's like all real close
That's
Yeah
There's nothing better
Than doing three sets a night right
Well stand up is like
I feel like it's like running
You want runner's endurance
You want to be in shape
You got to run
You have to run
In stand-up, you have to do stand-up
You do it, you get into it
You get the rhythm
You get the groove
You feel it
Once you start overthinking it
Yeah
And that happens
If you have too much of a break
For me, anyway
I start to overthink it
Of course
I start to get nervous
Yeah, of course
Do you get nervous?
Oh, yeah, if you take time off you feel uncomfortable that's the best way to describe
it's not necessarily nervous because i know jokes i know how to tell them right but i don't feel
comfortable right yeah it's a totally yes i was in um so just in portland this last weekend
do helium up there no i do the alberta Rose Theater. And I had to write a whole new show because we came back too soon, like six months ago.
We were in Portland, so I had to write a whole new fucking show.
And I was really sweating it.
I didn't realize how nervous I was.
And so when I got on stage about 30 minutes in, it was going good, right?
I got my appetite.
All of a sudden, I was hungry.
And so I got a calzone and I had eat it on stage yes what i couldn't i was starving i had another two hours to go my show
goes two and a half hours and sometimes eight while you're on some months i'm like i have to
get yeah so i just got a calzone how did the people handle it they all went and got calzones
they sold out so you had a break no we just as as I'm doing the show, I had three people up on stage with me.
Are you in the calzone business?
Are you the Nancy Pelosi of calzones?
Is that what's going on?
You know, I have some interests in calzones.
I don't know how you can do that.
I've often looked, I'd be on stage and I'd look down at the chicken wing and I'm like,
I could eat that fucking thing right now.
Really?
Yeah, so as soon as my nervousness goes away like i'll get hungry yeah that's so
weird yeah while you're on stage you get hungry if i'm yeah because my nervousness goes away
i don't know how many times i can say this no i understand so before that because of the
nervousness you can't eat yeah so you go on stage hungry yes but you probably should be but i don't
feel hungry when i go outside i just feel like a knot or whatever.
And then the nervousness goes away.
You're just doing well.
And then you're like, I got to fucking eat something.
You go on stage and you do two and a half hours?
Yeah.
Whoa.
That's a lot of time.
Well, it's not stand-up.
I have video.
That's right.
You're doing your show.
Video.
Doing a video show.
But we write jokes for the videos and everything.
It's not just guys doing a podcast. Right. That makes a little more sense that you want to eat in the middle of show. Video. Doing a video show. But we write jokes for the videos and everything. It's not just guys doing a podcast.
Right.
That makes a little more sense that you want to eat in the middle of it.
Yeah.
A little more sense.
Because if you're on stage doing your act.
Oh, yeah, you can.
If I'm doing my act, that's why I often do my act, I look like I'd like to have a piece
of that chicken.
You can't do that.
I could play a video that's going to be a minute and I've got...
Oh, so that's what you do?
Then you come back.
Yeah.
Do you worry about shit flying out of your mouth what you do come back yeah do you worry about shit
flying out of your mouth while you're talking i do not worry about that it should because the
people already like me oh okay that's a good way of looking at it yeah that it's you know it's
such a freeing such i don't have to convince anybody or and that's the weird thing with my
kind of comedy like i i like to go up in front of people who don't know me to surprise them
in a in a way like watch i'm gonna but I also have to get into it a little gentler.
Yes.
More gently.
Right.
Yeah, more gently.
Yeah.
So I have to get into...
I have to act like, hey, my brother said this.
Or, hey, I'm too dumb.
I don't get it.
Why is the government against worker strikes, but they're for military strikes?
As opposed to the way you would do it in front of your crowd.
Yeah.
Yeah. In front of my crowd, I'm much more
amped up
and angry or what have you.
That makes sense. Yeah, it's a weird thing, right?
There's a catch-22 to that, because
if you play to your people all the time,
you can get soft,
because they'll laugh at stuff just because
they like you. That's right. And then a regular audience
will be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
That's right. There's some regular audience will be like, what the fuck are you talking about? That's right.
There's some people that I've seen where they do well,
especially like some podcast folks, they have a crowd.
And then the people will come to see them when they do their shows
and like, oh, they're just happy to see you and you do well.
But then you go do a show, a rando show at the fucking improv
where there's like five other people, especially that lab.
That lab is hot death.
At the improv?
Yeah.
That little tiny room?
It can be.
It's set up all fucked up.
The door is right next to your stage.
You're on stage and you hear the door and see people walking in.
The bar is enormous.
It's way too big.
It's like if everyone in the room was a rabid alcoholic, maybe you could justify having
a bar that big in a room that small.
It doesn't make any sense.
I just like that room.
That's funny.
You know, now that you mention it,
I guess I noticed that stuff, but...
They should light that room on fire.
Really?
They should take sage through that room
and clear it of ghosts
and then light it on fire.
I enjoyed it because there's no waitresses.
Right?
Not that I don't like waitresses.
You go and get your own drinks?
If you want a drink, you go to the bar.
And so nobody walks around in front of you, so there's no distractions.
People just sit there.
Oh, you're anti-waitress.
You motherfucker.
You fucking asshole.
I get it, I get it, I get it.
Jimmy's got a problem with the women.
He likes a male bartender.
A rugged.
You know, we just got done making fun of
Kyle Kalinske got in trouble
for making fun of Elizabeth Warren's
dancing. He didn't get in trouble.
That Cory Booker guy went after him.
That is nonsense. You virtual
signaling dummy. That is so silly.
He made fun of everything. He made fun
of Cory Booker's jokes. Dad jokes. He made fun of the... But if he made fun of everything he made fun of cory booker's jokes dad jokes he
made fun of the that's but if he makes fun of elizabeth warren all of a sudden it's sexist
it's like hey his quote like you see what he said like it was so clunky like i'm sorry you had 18
year old autistic college student who just gets to talk for the first time yeah yeah it was so
clunky yeah how did you formulate this this sentence did
you really feel this then and who do you think's gonna believe this like the people who are gonna
believe this what you they already like you the most of the people are gonna see right through
this thing so it was just to me it's like uh you know it's a schizophrenic message from people like
that with Elizabeth Warren's defenders it's like well women message from people like that with elizabeth warren's defenders
it's like well women can women can do anything except take a joke i guess dance watch her dance
let's watch that video elizabeth warren dancing if you're not making fun of that you're out of
your fucking mind if there's a thing to make fun of why do white people think this is dancing by
the way you ever notice that george bush dance my number one move. Doesn't Ellen do that, too? I think Ellen
may do that.
I don't know.
Elon Musk did it, too. Did you see when Elon
Musk was in China? Took his jacket off, threw it
on the ground, was dancing.
He's having a good time. I guess that's okay.
Probably had a couple of pops. Yeah, he's not running for anything.
Exactly. And everybody made fun of it.
Nobody accused anybody of being sexist.
Really? Yeah Yeah Dancing was hilarious
We'll play that first
We'll play that second
Let's play the Elizabeth Warren one first
Because the Elizabeth Warren one is so fucking ridiculous
You're watching her dance and you're like
How dare you say I can't make fun of this
How dare you
How dare you
Obviously it's
By the way it's not like somebody put up a cell phone video of her dancing at a wedding.
No one's going to get... That's okay.
She's on stage
trying to get something from
people, and she thinks this will get it
for her. Here we go. Here she goes.
So here she goes. Here she's up there.
I don't know if you can play that music.
So she decided, yeah, we can't
play that music. So
it's...
Look at her dancing.
First of all, she looks like she needs...
No, this isn't it.
This isn't it?
No, it's one with Julian Castro is in the background.
This is a different one.
This is her...
Oh, there she goes, though.
Oh, no, she's doing it there, too.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
That would...
Oh, no.
She keeps doing this.
She looks like her back is welded
Like it's all one piece
Everything is moving like this
Yes you're right
She's a robot
She's barely real
It's about being white
That's weird because I thought she was Native American
Well that's what I said
So obviously Bernie's lying about saying women can't win,
or Elizabeth Warren is lying about him saying that.
And I'm not going to accuse a Native American of lying.
I'm just not going to go there.
Good for you.
She is one one-thousandth Native American.
So that's real.
That's a real number.
It might be 2,000.
She's 70.
Her moves shouldn't be very elastic, right?
That's a lot of 70-year-olds out there. Good point. 70. Her moves shouldn't be very elastic, right? That's a lot of 70-year-olds out there.
Good point.
70.
She actually looks pretty good for 70 because Bernie looks like shit.
Bernie's head is in the middle of his chest.
I've heard you say that before.
It's like falling off.
If I was his friend, I'd be like, bro, you've got to work on your posture.
We've got to get you some spinal decompression.
Get you to some yoga classes. Your head's going to fall off. When you meet him, he's taller like, bro, you got to work on your posture. We got to get you some spinal decompression. Get you to some yoga classes.
Your head's going to fall off.
When you meet him, he's taller than you think, right?
Yes, because his head's like this.
Yeah, you meet him, you're like, oh, I thought...
It's supposed to be up here.
I thought for sure I was going to be taller than him when I met him.
You ever have that happen?
I thought for sure I'm going to be...
And he was way taller than me.
Well, I'm 5'8".
I always assume I'm shorter than everybody before I meet them.
Okay.
Pretty much.
Unless they're like a tiny person.
I thought Chris Hedges was going to be 6'5 when I met him.
And he's the same height.
He's a normal guy?
Yeah, he's normal.
Not tall.
Have you met Chris Cuomo?
Fredo?
Did you call him Fredo?
No.
He'll wreck my shit if I do that.
Yeah, he'll wreck your shit and throw you downstairs.
That was so revealing.
That was so revealing.
I was like, who are you?
Are you 16?
But you know that Fredo is the N-word.
Oh, we've all said that.
We've all said that.
We've been saying that for years.
You get fed a cheaty L-N-word.
That is so fucking dumb to say that.
That's so stupid.
The idea that he thought that he could pass that off and he knew they were filming him,
right?
Yes, yes.
How do you not know?
It's like,
saying that to an Italian American
is like using the N word.
Like, oh.
Is it really?
Guess what?
Here's the thing about being Italian.
There's no word for us.
There's no word for us.
You can call me a guinea.
You can call me a greaseball.
It's like, okay.
It doesn't work.
Right.
There's no word
they don't work they worked for my grandfather's day i used to talk to my grandfather because you
know he was an immigrant and he came over from italy and he told me all the horrible shit kids
in school would say to him all the horrible shit people yeah yeah guineas back then were
they were they were talked to like trash immigrants like they Like they wanted them to go home.
They didn't want them there.
And there was a lot of dispute between the Irish and the Italians.
Italians were thought of the way a lot of racist people think of Mexicans.
Like they're coming over here to take our jobs.
They're infesting our neighborhood with their smells and their food.
And they want to talk their language.
Like my grandparents always spoke Italian in the house.
Did they smell?
They smelled great.
It depends on what you like.
I love Italian food, so it smelled great.
But they always talked Italian.
My grandmother and my grandfather always spoke Italian to each other.
Yeah.
They lived in an Italian neighborhood up until it changed.
They lived in Newark, New Jersey.
Okay.
Which was all Italian.
So it seems like every wave of immigrants becomes the new horrible person. Yes. neighborhood up until it changed they lived in uh newark new jersey okay which was all italian so
it seems like every wave of immigrants becomes the new horrible person right so i'm i grew up
because i was irish and they talk about how the no irish need apply all that stuff and that's why
yeah i mean that's what it's just there's waves of this right and now the wave is you know mexicans
are the scapegoats but you know there's that documentary they did a while back uh a day with no mexicans uh-huh but but it's true everything
would fucking shut down shut down especially los angeles no kidding but most of the country
most of the country and this is the dirty secret about the united states of america is that we
rely a lot of i shouldn't say we a lot of industry podcasts it doesn't really rely on illegal immigrants but a lot of industries rely on illegal immigrants and it's it's a
fucked up situation to be in for them because they really don't have a path to become legal
even if they've been proven right for decade after decade that they're a viable contributing part of
our culture because they got over here illegally even if they came over here as a child that we can't we can't let you stay you know um and that's another thing you know the immigration
uh had they've been scapegoated since as far as i can remember bill clinton so bill clinton if you
go back the c-span videos of him saying mexicans coming here taking our jobs and all that stuff he
was he did all that stuff and hillary cl, she bragged that she voted for a border wall.
A barrier.
It was a fence in some places.
She used to brag about it.
And so then Trump comes along
and turns it up another notch.
And they're like,
this guy's a fuck.
It's like, no, you guys.
So I make this point.
He just says it in a way that's...
Yeah, it's very offensive
and it's wrong, right?
Of course it is.
But what I'm saying is
he's building off of a bunch of shit that's offensive and wrong just like when they tweeted out those so you find out uh uh
this is what i say that oh he he banned all the muslims at the airport then you find out why are
they at the airport barack obama's been bombing them for eight fucking years straight he dropped
26 000 bombs they ran out of bombs then you find out he's putting immigrants in cages you find out
about barack obama built those cages then you you find out that Trump is gassing immigrants at the border.
And you find out Barack Obama also gassed immigrants at the border.
And they should be honored they were gassed by the lesser of two evils.
So there is the silver lining.
And it's finally starting to come out because the Democrats have run this Russiagate.
It's done.
They did the Mueller report.
It's over.
He concluded there is no collusion.
It's over.
So now they moved on to impeachment. But now he's done. They did the Mueller report. It's over. He concluded there is no collusion. It's over. So now they moved on to impeachment, but now he's bombing.
So they're finally starting to talk about the War Powers Act.
But nobody's talking about cutting the Pentagon budget.
Do you hear that?
I don't hear that.
Do you think the main thing about impeachment is supposedly that he tried to get Ukraine to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden.
Right.
That's the main thing.
That's what they say.
You take that out, and there's basically nothing.
Right.
And people aren't really that upset that he tried.
Half the country, for sure, aren't upset that he tried to investigate Joe Biden.
So many people are clinging to this as if this impeachment makes sense,
because they think that he's not presidential.
That's it.
Yeah.
impeachment makes sense because they think that he's not presidential that's it yeah that as as aaron matei says who's the only guy i know who won an award for his russiagate coverage
uh because he debunked it uh like a good reporter supposed to do it he he always makes the point
that trump is not uh a suitable steward of imperialism and they think he puts an ugly
face on the shit we've been this is what i this is the trump puts an ugly face on the shit we've been this is what i this is the trump puts
an ugly face on the stuff we've been doing all along and so now people are going to be more aware
of it and we would have been more aware of it if the democrats would have actually opposed him on
substance instead of russiagate he says things sometimes that you go you are just allowed to
write your own speech like when he when he was talking about Baghdadi, that he died like a dog.
And you're like, what?
You're allowed to say that he died like a dog?
Or how about the, this is the weird thing,
that he uses Twitter to threaten other countries.
Like when he was talking about Iran,
that if they respond, we will respond
in perhaps a disproportionate manner.
Like you're using Twitter to threaten threat like nobody ever thought that there was
going to be this sort of a a venue for a president to just just have mouth diarrhea and that's why
i mean i i really believe that's a big reason why a lot of the establishment wants to get rid of him
because he makes them look bad because they agree with his policies the democrats just gave him everything he wanted they paid for his fucking
border wall they gave him expanded spying powers they gave him extra 131 billion to go bomb people
they helped fast track his judges they fucking uh also helped him deregulate wall street what
the fuck aren't they doing for him and that's why we have donald trump and that's why it's important that bernie uh gets in that's why it's important that he overcomes their cheating and i just want you
talk about schizophrenic like bernie has a schizophrenic strategy like people are upset
that i critique his strategy i want bernie to be stronger i want him to win and i want him to so
like he'll come on give a speech where he says, I'm running against the Democrat as establishment.
And people go crazy, right, because we know that's the problem.
And then he'll do a video where he endorses the DNC.
Like, hey, give us money.
He just did a video with all the Democratic candidates talking about unity.
And every campaign had to pay $170,000 to the DNC to be included in that video.
Why?
Because the DNC is bankrupt.
Why? Because no one's donating to it.
And so they have to extort money out of their own candidates,
saying if you don't give us $170,000 each to do this Unity video,
we won't have any money to help you once you win the nomination.
So they all ponied up and they were all in it.
And Bernie's in a Unity video where he's supposed to be speaking against millionaires and billionaires.
There's two billionaires in the fucking video.
Tom Steyer and Bloomberg.
We've got to come together with billionaires to oppose.
No, they are the fucking problem.
Bloomberg is a problem.
He's the guy who instituted stop and frisk.
He's the guy who says New York needs more billionaires.
Those are the fucking guys who are the problem.
And if Bernie would just stop playing footsie with them in a sense and just bash them, I think it wouldn't even be close.
So he's got it like Barack Obama.
He's got to overwin because they're going to cheat him.
So he has to overwin.
And I tell you what, if he picked Tulsi Gabbard as his vice president, he would crush Donald Trump because there are a lot of right-wingers and there's a lot of independents.
There's a lot of anti-war people who are upset with the Republican Party.
A lot of independents, libertarians.
And they like her because she's A.
All the things that you like about her.
She's strong.
She doesn't fly off the hip.
And she's proven herself as a patriot.
All that stuff.
What do you think they're doing?
Who do you think they're leaning towards for the nominee?
Do you think they want Warren?
Oh, the establishment, yes do you think they want warren oh the establishment yes
yeah they want oh that's why the dnc the media and elizabeth warren's campaign coordinated on
this latest sexist hit on bernie sanders but it's not working i don't think so i think it's
backfiring it's it should backfire it's just it's amazing that the the pocahontas stuff that she's
gotten as far as she has with lying about being Native American
and using it to get a job.
And the way she lies about it.
I mean, she's such a bad,
again, she's also a bad liar.
Like when Meghan McCain
can twist you into pretzel,
that's not good.
You know,
she went on some podcast
with these black guys.
I don't know,
have you ever seen that video
where she's being interviewed
by three black guys?
In a podcast?
Yeah, they just tear her to shreds.
Oh, is that Charlemagne?
Is that on the Breakfast Club? I think maybe, I don't, is that Charlemagne? Is that on The Breakfast Club?
I think maybe.
I don't know.
I'm out of touch.
I don't know anything.
Charlemagne's sharp as fuck.
I think he went after her
for the whole Native American thing.
And she was just basically saying,
well, it's a family story
that we always told.
He nailed her.
It was easy.
It was like you talking to Barry Weiss.
It wasn't Barry Weiss.
All you had to do
was ask the normal questions.
Here it is.
What does Toadie mean?
Charlamagne the God calls Elizabeth Warren the original Rachel Dolezal.
That's right.
Yes, that's right.
That's what he did say.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a hilarious thing to say, the original Rachel Dolezal.
The original.
Well, she used it to get a job.
I mean, she really did, and she didn't give any of that money back. I mean, didn't she get a job. I mean, she really did.
And she didn't give any of that money back.
I mean, didn't she get a job at Harvard because of that?
She claimed she did it.
She claimed she did it.
But it was on her application.
She was Native American.
There's a reason why.
Yeah.
And she's just saying it's because our family.
But she was saying she's Native American.
Like, that's the whole thing?
You're 100% that?
I don't know what she was saying. Right?
I know it's really come back to bite her in the ass.
I know.
I bet she was.
Not enough.
Not enough.
She's still bouncing around.
Like, that's a liar.
Like, she's a person that makes up a past.
She's created a fake past, and she did it back when there was no DNA test available.
So you can get away with being Native American.
It makes you look like you're, first of all, you're kind of cool, right? Everybody, like, you ever see
that movie Vision Quest?
No.
Great movie. Matthew Modine. But his buddy's like a fake Indian. His buddy lied about being
Native American. He had a mohawk and everything. He was playing up the Native American thing.
Because people want to be Native American. It's a cool thing.
Yeah.
You know, they're thought to be more spiritual.
Yes.
More deep and interesting and certainly more oppressed.
So if you say, if she says she's Native American,
oh, look at this Native American woman who made it all the way to be president.
It's exotic.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, she's like one two thousandth Native American.
Is that what it was?
Some ridiculous, ridiculously small number.
Right.
And then when she got her DNA test,
Trump said that if she was Native American
that he would give a million dollars to charity,
give her a million dollars, something like that.
And so she was like, well, time to pay up.
Like, what?
Did you look at the numbers?
Yes, she did.
Yes, she did.
Find that.
I find everything you're saying right now sexist i hope
you know that fuck yeah everything you're saying is sexist must be right i'm talking about a woman
what do people you know what you know you talk about how you feel bad about the new york times
not being yes because i know i know that feeling you wanted somebody to be what what are the other
news people like at msnbc and say what do they think they think when they see Tucker Carlson kicking their ass doing war coverage?
Isn't that fucking amazing?
The Tucker Carlson thing was interesting, right?
Isn't that amazing?
He seems at least partially independent.
Why is he allowed to tell the truth about war at Fox News?
I don't fucking get that.
They're not allowed to tell the truth about war at CNN or MSNBC.
Well, Shepard Smith was allowed to tell the truth, too.
Certain truths, but he was, again. the truth too but he was like certain truths
but he was
again
after a while
he was like
I gotta get the fuck
out of here
yeah
again
there's lots of truths
he didn't tell also
so that's why
I still
did you see Bombshell
no what is this
that's the movie
with the
Roger Ailes movie
oh I started watching that
oh man that guy
who's the actor
from Australia
what's his name oh whoever that guy, who's the actor from Australia? What's his name?
Oh.
Whoever the guy is.
He's fantastic.
Isn't that John Lithgow in Bombshell, though?
I think you're thinking of the Dick Cheney movie.
I'm thinking of a series.
There's a series about Roger Ailes in Fox News.
Oh.
No, this is a movie.
Oh, I didn't see it. This is a new Charlize Theron movie.
Oh, really?
Yeah, where she plays Megyn movie. Oh, I didn't see it. This is a new Charlize Theron. Oh, really? Yeah, where she plays Megyn Kelly.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So she's playing someone less attractive.
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American ancestry. I remember,
and here's the verdict.
Warren tests...
Warren reveals tests confirming
ancestry. What? Yeah, but it's
such an insanely
small amount.
Oh, God. Look, I am
1.6% African. I am
200 times more African than she is Native American.
That's real.
Yeah.
L-O-L.
So.
Imagine.
I mean, I thought that when she said she got fired from teaching and then the video came out and said she quit, I thought that would be the end.
That should be the end, too.
I got called a sexist for talking about that.
Oh, you are sexist
i had a clinton advisor come at me a bill clinton advisor oh that's hilarious you've been funny
advisors should all shut the fuck up you would think you are so lucky you're not in jail i only
flew 26 times with jeffrey epstein it's not a lot of times he was a good guy he had a nice jet
we flew around we saw the sky we looked at things we had a couple drinks you do a good guy He had a nice jet We flew around We saw the sky We looked at things
We had a couple drinks
You do a good Clinton
It's alright
It's not that good
Jeffrey
Jeffrey actually does a good Clinton
But that's because
He's got hours and hours
And hours of tapes on me
I'm bad
Every time I try to do an impression
It sounds like a drunk Irish guy
No your Bernie's pretty damn good
But Bill is so obvious.
$27?
Yeah, there it is.
You know why $27?
Because that's my social security number.
27.
That's good.
Yeah, it's because he was the 27th person alive.
It's an old joke, Joe.
I get it.
I get it.
It was funny here in 2016.
I get it.
Okay.
But any Bill Clinton advisor calling you a sexist, that is goddamned hilarious.
That's rich.
Did you write the come off your dress before you called me a sexist?
That fucking guy.
When he dies, there will be stories.
Yeah.
Well, there's already stories.
We just haven't heard them.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean, it's just, it just amazing how much they can keep quiet.
Well, it's amazing that the Epstein thing just comes and goes and nobody gets thrown run out of office.
Nobody gets nothing.
Nothing.
Fucking nothing.
Well, how about the fact that they accidentally erased the first attempted suicide video?
Whoops.
We accidentally erased that, too.
How about they erased all the torture videos?
I mean, they did that.
The CIA did that.
They lied to Congress on camera.
Joe, we're living in a...
Shit happens.
Things go bad.
What does Jesse Ventura say?
He says, when you're telling the truth is...
I can forget that quote.
But when you're living in universal deceit,
telling the truth is a treasonous act or something.
I just said it earlier and I can't remember.
Oh, Jesse Ventura.
Yeah, he was going to run for president.
Wasn't he?
As an independent? I don't know.
I think he toyed with it. Is Bloomberg still running?
Yes, he is. I don't hear anything
about it. He's spending tons of money on
ads and stuff and so is
Steyer. Steyer, they say, was like
number two. He got himself up to
like number two
in South Carolina
or something
because of all the money
he's spending
and you talk to people
who live there
they go I went home
for Christmas
and every third commercial
was a Tom Steyer commercial
really
so it's a local thing
so he's trying to get
that market
yeah
so he's like okay
I might not win Iowa
but I can maybe
put all my money
into South Carolina
so do you think
the establishment
wants Elizabeth Warren?
Because of the fact, look, she's willing to play ball.
She wants to be president.
She was a Republican forever, and then she switched over, became a Democrat.
This thing about him, Bernie, being sexist is so obviously a political ploy.
It's so transparent and really gross.
Yeah.
So now when they call Trump a sexist, it doesn't land. Right, so transparent and really gross. Yeah. So now when someone acts,
so now when they call
Trump a sexist,
it doesn't land.
Right.
Exactly.
They cried wolf to me.
That's exactly what,
I mean,
they teach this to six-year-olds.
Don't cry wolf.
Yeah.
And here they are,
an entire organization,
the establishment,
has been crying wolf.
It's crazy.
These motherfuckers.
These motherfuckers.
What do you keep
looking at your shirt for?
I spilled some
of that turmeric coffee on it.
Oh.
And I washed it off during the show.
Oh, did you?
I didn't even notice.
Yeah, I didn't notice.
See how unnoticed, unobserving I am?
It's all right.
It's all right.
See, a little spot there.
It's no big deal.
So how many times do you go out a week?
How many times I do shows?
Yeah, stand up.
It depends on the week, but always at least four.
This week I'm only working Tuesday and Wednesday night
because I've got to go and do the UFC this weekend in Vegas.
Oh.
And I didn't schedule a gig.
But a regular weekend, boy, depending on if I'm on the road or here,
if I'm here, I mean, on a regular week I'll work Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
Friday, Saturday.
I do that all the time.
I'll do multiple sets a night.
I'll do the store.
I'll do the improv.
Sometimes I'll do the ice house.
Okay.
So, I'll change subjects real quick.
Do you watch boxing?
Yes.
Did you watch Ruiz?
Yes.
He got fat and he was partying.
Why did he do that?
He had a good time.
He fucked up.
He got rid of his trainer. He did a lot of things wrong. At first they were saying he lost
too much weight. Did you remember that?
But that was just because there was a photo that he was doing like the
Instagram angle. Oh, is that it? It's like him in the
bathroom looking down. Oh, okay.
If you like have a camera
and you pose in a certain way, you can make yourself
look slim. Okay.
Like I get, nothing gets you more
excited than a good boxing match. Well, that fight should have been a great fight, but Andy. Okay. Yeah. Like, nothing gets you more excited than a good boxing match.
Well, that fight should have been a great fight, but Andy fucked up.
Yeah.
He really fucked up.
And no plan.
Afterwards, he was asking for a rematch.
I'm pretty sure he trained himself, too, for that fight.
Yeah, I think he did.
Yeah.
Well, he was, I know for a fact.
Why would he do all that?
He was partying.
Because he became the heavyweight champion of the world In an incredible knockout And I bet
Everybody was kissing his ass
And he bought a Rolls Royce
He came to the podcast
Oh yeah
When he did the podcast
He came in a Rolls Royce
Oh
Yeah
Woo
Which doesn't necessarily mean
You're going off the rails
But it's a really good indication
Yeah I mean
If he showed up
In a fucking Caprice Classic
I'd be like
This guy's dialed in
Yeah
He's focused
Yeah he's gonna get this one That's right He's got be like, this guy's dialed in. Yeah. He's focused. Yeah, he's going to get this one.
That's right.
He's got an old cop car he's driving around in.
No hubcaps.
Shitty old bench seats and shit.
Let's go get the championship.
Yeah, he's Rocky Balboa.
But he had his chance, and they're not going to give him another one.
No?
Because he can beat a lot of guys.
Yeah.
But I don't know if he can sell a lot of pay-per-views, especially after that second performance.
The problem with the second performance is the second performance was so piss poor
that you're going to need multiple big wins in fights
before people take you seriously again.
Again.
And he needs a real nutritionist.
He really does.
Even though he won being fat, there was a lot of factors in that fight.
Even though he won being fat, there was a lot of factors in that fight.
One big factor that I have heard from people who are very knowledgeable and in the know, insiders,
was that Anthony Joshua was hurt in training, that he got rocked and maybe even got KO'd when he was training.
And not too distant from the fight, like two weeks out.
Oh, really?
Two weeks out from the fight, got KO'd. Yeah. Oh, really? Two weeks out from the fight got KO'd.
Oh, that's not good.
When you're heavyweight and you're slinging those fucking gigantic fists
at each other, all those guys
need to do is catch each other once.
Just once. Boom. Apparently it just
happens all the time. There was a
Russian heavyweight boxer who was just
criticized because he showed this video
of a sparring session where
he flatlines his trainer or his uh his sparring partner with one punch happens it happens all
the time for the knockouts you see in the ring there's probably you know dozens more you'll never
see with top fight top flight guys that are just you know they're bringing in guys like when Klitschko
was the champion he brought in guys like Anthony Joshua to spar with.
He brought in guys like Deontay Wilder.
He sparred with Deontay Wilder.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, these guys, they spar with killers.
I love watching Deontay.
It's exciting.
It's like, at any moment, exactly like you said, at any moment it can happen, the fight can turn around.
Deontay's a freak.
Yeah.
He's a freak.
Yeah.
Freak of nature.
Oh, so in what way?
There's no one I've ever seen who can knock everyone out.
Oh, and that's him.
He knocks everyone out.
Yeah.
There's never been a guy.
If you look at his record, it's insane.
It's not just the fact that he's won so many fights.
He only has one decision loss.
He has one draw with Tyson Fury.
With Tyson Fury.
And then the rest, he knocks people into orbit.
Yeah. Every other fight. He has 40 knockouts. Yeah. With Tyson Fury. And then the rest, he knocks people into orbit. Yeah.
Every other fight,
he has 40 knockouts
in 40 wins.
And that Cuban guy
he just laid out,
that guy was tough.
Oh my God.
And he hit him on the forehead.
Yes.
And he hit him like this.
Yes.
It was like a short punch.
He hits so hard,
it doesn't even make sense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ortiz went down.
Ortiz was tough.
And he was down like,
what in the fuck just happened?
Yes.
He hits people, and they have a look on their face like they can't even believe how hard
he hits them.
Yeah.
That Dominic Brazil, that KO, like right after the Tyson Fury fight.
Oh, okay.
Oh, my God.
He's a murderer.
Yeah.
He's one of the most murderous puncher I've ever seen in the heavyweight division.
So I think him and Fury are going to fight again.
Yes.
Yeah. In February. Next month. are going to fight again. Yes.
Yeah.
In February. That's exciting.
Next month.
That's exciting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There it is.
Oh, fantastic.
Tyson Fury's masturbating seven times a day to prep for a wilder rematch.
He needs testosterone up, he said.
That brings his testosterone up?
That's what he says.
That's what he said?
Wow.
I think it's just...
Jesus Christ.
I think he's reading into that.
Who was that fighter that used to drink his own urine?
Lyoto Machida? It was a boxer. Oh, really? Yeah's just... Jesus Christ. I think he's reading into that. Who was that fighter that used to drink his own urine? Lyoto Machida?
It was a boxer.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it was a boxer.
A lot of people were doing that for a while.
They thought urine therapy was supposed to...
That is not true, right, Joe?
I know you're not a doctor, but...
I am definitely a doctor, and it is true.
And I want you to do it now.
I drank my piss before.
I tried it.
Oh, come on!
Tyson Fury on ways he's preparing for a while. I'm masturbating seven times a day to keep up my piss before. I tried it. Oh, come on! Tyson Fury on ways he's preparing for Wilder.
I'm masturbating seven times a day to keep up my testosterone pumping.
Pump it.
Pump it.
Pump it.
Pump it.
Don't you know?
I got to keep active and testosterone flowing for the fight.
Don't want the levels to go down.
So I always thought having sex was bad for you before a fight.
It's supposed to be.
Yeah, your levels actually go up.
Not that it's bad, but some people think you before a fight. It's supposed to be. Yeah, your levels actually go up. Not that it's bad,
but some people think it's a distraction.
Like Mike Tyson's view was,
he said that he felt that sex was distracting.
So he would have sex just so he didn't have to think about it.
Because if he didn't have sex,
then he was just thinking about sex all the time.
But when Tyson was in his prime,
you got to also remember he's a really young guy.
Like he was in his early 20s.
Testosterone was through the fucking roof.
You know, and the level of girls that were bombing on him.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
I mean, Robin Givens was beautiful.
The most beautiful women in the world were trying to get some of that fucking gladiator dick.
Woo!
But I think for him, he really felt like sex was a distraction.
And if he could just have sex, then he wouldn't think about it.
I saw this play one time.
It was written by Steve Martin.
And it was a fictitious meeting between Picasso and Einstein in a bar in France.
It was called Picasso at the La Pile d'Ile.
And in it, Picasso's painting and he's talking.
And he says, an artist must stay well fucked otherwise his eye goes from the page to the windowsill down to the street across over to
the cafe where the girl's sitting with her skirt up and and it's like you got that's what that i
that always stuck with me yeah right if an artist doesn't stay well fucked, all he's going to do is think about getting laid.
Yeah.
Men will understand that,
but men will rarely say that in the presence of women.
And so because of that,
women either don't believe it or they dismiss it
or they think you're a pig for expressing it.
Right.
All those things.
But men alone, they'll go,
oh yeah, that makes sense. Like if you say that, you got to stay well fucked like oh yeah of course you have to
otherwise you get fucking distracted it is true women have no idea i heard a thing on npr one time
probably 15 years ago and they were doing a story about this uh woman who decided to transition to
be a man and so she documented it and did like an audio thing
and she talked about how when she was into it and started feeling her testosterone and she would
become attracted to women and she goes it didn't have to be a boob it could be an elbow it could
be her ankle it could be whatever and i and she goes i finally understood 13 year old boys yeah
yeah yeah pretty fucking distracting isn't it? Yeah.
And then you got to keep your shit together.
Well, it's not just that.
It's a biological imperative.
It's a reason why people breed.
Right.
It's like that's built into the DNA to make people attracted to females so they can spread
their DNA.
And that's what it is.
It's that simple.
It's it.
It's it.
To deny that is crazy. But you've got It's it. It's it. Billy deny that. It's crazy.
But you've got men denying it because they want women to like them.
And then you got women dismissing it because they think that the men who express it in
an honest way are pigs and sexist and they exhibit toxic masculinity, which is that's
a hilarious expression because you need to thank toxic masculinity for all the bridges, all the fucking, all the jets, all the rockets, all this toxic masculinity.
If you break down all the things that men have invented and all these toxic men have prevented you from being murdered in war and protected the country and all the different things that you could attribute to toxic masculinity. Most of it's positive.
Okay.
Now I forgot what that is.
I had this question.
It's sitting in my head since you started talking about toxic masculinity and I fucking
can't even get the word out.
I can't even say it.
I can't even fucking sovereignty.
Toxic masculinity is a ridiculous thing to say.
There's terrible men.
There's terrible human beings that happen to be men.
There's also terrible human beings that happen to be men. There's also terrible human beings that happen to be women.
There's not toxic femininity.
They just have any women who developed in a terrible way,
most likely with bad parents, most likely abuse,
physical and or sexual,
and then they become a monster at the end of all this process.
There's the same with men.
Bad men are just bad human beings that happen to be men and
when you see terrible things happen it's not because of toxic masculinity it's because it's
a bad person i believe in the individual there's individuals and some of them are bad and some of
them are good but you want to if you just want to generalize against all men like you're you're on
an uphill road there's too many obviously not me i've never invented anything but there's too many
things that men have done that are positive there's way too. There's too many, obviously not me, I've never invented anything, but there's too many things
that men have done
that are positive.
There's way too many.
There's too many things.
If you wanted to have
like a scoreboard
and you wanted to compete
men versus women,
what are you going to say
when you look at all
the different accomplishments
that men have made?
And obviously it's not me
and it's not you.
I'm not talking about us,
like that we're on a team,
but I'm saying like just this concept that men are bad.
And you hear this a lot today, especially white men.
I don't want to hear from white men.
Okay, well, that's crazy because there's a lot of nice white men.
This is dumb.
Phil Donahue.
Yeah, he's one of them.
But just this idea that you can generalize about one entire group,
whether it's by gender or whether it's by race,
by anything.
But you can do that with white men.
You can't really do that with brown women.
You can't say, here's a problem with black women.
All black women are this, that.
People would go, you're a racist piece of shit.
But if you say, here's a problem with white men.
Both are gross.
Both statements, generalizations are disgusting
whether they're a gender-based generalization or a sex-based general whatever it is so they
would say that that's okay to say that about white men because of the power dynamic yes
that white men have power so if we say that it doesn't it's not even racist right right that's
what that's no i don't know i'm not a you know dumb argument i'm not that's, I don't know. I'm not a, you know, I'm not a professor, so I don't know if that's true or not.
The white power, this is the thing. White men have more power, sure. But they also have more power than white men. It's a tiny percentage of white men who have the power that we're talking about CEOs and you're talking about judges, yes, white men are in those positions of power, but they're also in those positions of power over most white men. It's a very small amount of people that have an extraordinary amount of influence.
When you say white men suck, look at this.
No, that's the smallest percentage of people.
Who are these billionaires?
Who are these CEOs?
Who are these judges?
Who are these people that are in positions of power that happen to be white men?
So have you ever, now, again, I don't know.
I heard a guy refer to himself, like a regular guy, refer to himself as a cis male.
I'm going to do that from now on.
Has anyone ever done that?
It kind of blew me away.
I didn't even know what it was when I first heard it.
Yeah, it's nonsense.
You're a male.
If you're a trans woman and you want to be referred to only as a woman,
fine, no problem with that.
But I'm not going to call myself a cis male.
That's some new made-up shit.
It sounds like you're calling yourself a sissy.
Sissy, yeah.
When I first heard it, I thought that's what a guy
was doing. When I first heard
it, a guy said, I'm a cis male,
blah, blah, blah. I'm like, you're a sissy?
I didn't know what it meant. I read this
tweet once by this person who
was saying, basically, to shame
people into using that, ram it down their
throats, and eventually they'll accept it,
and it'll become normal.
Because if they want to refer to us as trans, we to refer to them as cis we have to force them to
refer to themselves as cis yes yes i don't even know that's where it came from it's to just to
make a clear distinction so instead of making it look like a trans woman is lesser you say you instead of that you have cisgender and transgender so they're they're
because you're you're adding to that name that prefix yeah because you're adding to both now
yeah now you've equalized the playing field you level the playing field but the problem with that
is trans is extremely rare it's the reason why you have that prefix in the first place because it's
really really unusual to meet a trans woman despite how the internet would have you feel.
I was always, I'm sure it's a tough life to be a transgendered person, like incredibly tough.
I was always a little jealous.
No, you're not.
Why don't you become a woman?
I was always like, God, it looks like fun.
Why don't you dress up like Meghanain and just start going on rants on
your show you'd be free you would have such a fucking free pass i mean look caitlin jenner
kill the lady nobody even talks about it says anything no just slammed her into traffic not
paying attention rear-ended her into oncoming traffic she's dead now and no one even brings
it up everyone's like she's so. Do you think she's intact?
I heard she cut it off.
Oh, my God.
Is it gone?
Yeah.
I don't.
But that was an accident, right?
It wasn't like.
It was a careless accident.
But still, she rear-ended somebody and slammed her into oncoming traffic.
Okay.
And whether or not she was on her phone, I don't know.
Do you ever worry you're going to say something?
I'm always worried.
I'm ignorant.
Like I said,
I have big gaps
in my knowledge of stuff.
And so I remember I was,
what was I talking about
the other day?
And I got it totally wrong.
Like I didn't know
somebody from Jamaica
that's also an African American.
I didn't know that.
Sure, because they came over
from Africa to Jamaica. That's what I'm talking about, how dumb. I didn't know that. Sure, because they came over from Africa to Jamaica.
That's what I'm talking about, how dumb.
I wouldn't say African-American.
I mean, I guess once they came to America and they're American citizens, yeah, they're African-Americans.
So I didn't, again, this is-
A lot of Jamaicans refer to themselves as Jamaicans, though.
The thing about Jamaicans is it's really unique how unique cultures are known for specific things that are very positive.
Jamaicans are known for incredible work ethic.
Yeah.
Jamaicans have multiple jobs.
It's always a standup joke.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In New York,
there was always jokes about Jamaicans about,
you know,
that they would get mad at you if you had less than five jobs.
Oh,
no kidding.
Yeah.
Jamaicans are known for being like very hustle oriented.
Well,
see,
that's a New York thing.
I mean,
the only thing I've ever heard about Jamaicans
is the stereotype of pot and all that stuff.
That too, that too, but they have a lot of jobs.
Pot smokers having five jobs goes to show you
it doesn't take away your ambition.
They don't.
It doesn't.
That's nonsense.
Look, I smoke a lot of pot.
I'm pretty ambitious.
I work a lot.
Do you ever, so I'll do a show, right,
where I'm criticizing someone or something, and then I'll do a show, right, where I'm like criticizing someone or something,
and then I'll smoke a joint afterwards to relax.
And then I start second guessing everything I said.
Yeah, of course.
Do you do that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Okay, I feel better.
We're talking shit.
Yeah, I know.
You know, I mean, I'm thinking about my poorly worded rant of male versus women.
And I'm thinking like, well, I probably should have said that better.
But that's just a part of how it works.
You know, what I was getting at from all of this, though, is that we have to look at each other as individuals.
And this identity politics bullshit that people play, whether it's male versus female, whether it's black versus white and Asian and this and that, they have to be humans, humans first.
They have to be humans, humans first.
And one of the weirder things that's going on in Hollywood now is they're leaning so hard on diversity that it gets distracting.
It's like it gets, like, I went to see, here's an example, I went to see Frozen, the musical.
Frozen is about a Nordic, there's Nordic people, one girl has magic.
Did you ever see it? You don't have kids.
No, I don't.
In the play, in the musical, the dad is black and the mom's chinese which is like okay maybe she's
asian i don't know maybe she's korean i don't know it's hard to tell i can't see that good i'm 52
okay pretty far away but she was obviously asian and then they have a kid and then the young version
of the kid is asian and then the old version of the kid later
in the musical is white i'm like you're distracting the fuck yeah that's distracting you distract the
fuck out of me but how does a black guy and an asian lady make two two blonde ladies like what's
happening here or one has red hair how'd that happen how did the black guy and the chinese lady
make a blonde? Are you,
I guess,
like,
don't you go continuity.
They're just,
it's,
it's distracting.
The guy,
they were,
he was great in his role.
She was great in her role.
They were excellent.
It worked.
I accepted it and I moved on,
but I know what you're doing.
You know,
if you had a white guy playing a black guy in a movie,
I'd be like,
what is happening here?
Why is this white guy pretending to be a black guy?
This is,
this is,
are we going to address this?
Like if there was a musical and there was a guy and we decided,
we'll just have a white guy play the,
uh,
the father of,
uh,
you know,
some,
some black guy.
And we're just not going to say why he had a kid that was black.
We just assume that you'll figure it out or just,
you just,
you know,
yeah,
that's,
that breaks the fourth wall. It breaks your you what is distracting i'm suspending my
disbelief and then you're doing things to make me disbelieve it's distracting it's distracting but i
i i understand you understand what they're doing i appreciate it yeah because i think ultimately
what it is is it's all all of it is moving in the right direction it's just doing it in a very
clunky way they're moving against discrimination they're moving against racism they're moving for
cultural diversity beautiful but it's just distracting the way they're doing it is so
odd but it's like hollywood is so gross they lick their finger they have no virtue they lick their
finger like which way the wind blowing?
This way?
We need Asians.
And then they'll just fucking just start hiring Asians for things
and trying to get Asian people jobs
and try to,
look, look, look, look,
we have Asians.
We're really,
and then if it becomes Jamaicans,
Jamaicans!
We need Jamaicans.
Get them in here.
Get them in here.
They don't give a fuck.
They're trying to make money.
They're trying to make money
and one of the best ways
to make money
is to ride cultural trends. And so, our cultural trend right now is a good one even though there's a lot of
people that are they're they're basically they're controversy pimps right so when these things come
up they use this controversy to gain money or notoriety or push their cause or to use it as
the wind behind their sail so they can talk
a lot of shit about other people and get a lot of attention it gives them a bit of immunity yes it
gives them a lot of immunity yeah and so like all these things we were talking about of course
yeah how have you experienced it i've had people accuse me of being sexist i've had that we already
established that you were sexist i well course I am Because I treat women equally
Yes that's the problem
You know I was sexist because I voted for Jill Stein
Well anybody that says you're sexist
For making fun of Elizabeth Warren dancing
Is a fucking buffoon and that's a perfect example
Of what I'm talking about
Like are you saying that a person running for
The commander in chief of the greatest army the world has ever known
And you can't make fun of the way they dance
Because they have a vagina
Fuck you I am woman hear me roar just don't make fun of the way they dance because they have a vagina.
Fuck you.
I am woman.
Hear me roar.
Just don't make fun of my dancing.
Or my roars.
My roar is like, rah!
Again, it's like the – I thought the answer to this was to treat everybody equally.
Yes.
That's how it should be.
Identity politics, the real problem with it, of course, always, is that you cannot ever say, this is a man, so he must be that.
This is a woman, so she must be that. This is a black person, so they must be this.
Those generalizations are bad for everybody. People are nuanced. And if we don't believe in the individual, then we don't really believe in equality. Everyone has to have their own way
to make it through this life and express themselves
in a unique way where they can contribute in a unique way and we can appreciate them for who
they are not appreciate them as a woman or appreciate them as a man or as a white man or
a black woman or what that's nonsense it's so dumb like you happen you might happen to be a
a black man or you might happen to be an asian man you might happen to be an Asian man.
You might happen to be all those things.
But you're a person.
You're a fucking individual.
And we should, especially when it comes to meritocracy things like positions of power in government, like get elected officials or even comedians or anything else.
You want to make sure that the person who's this is they're
good so they're just good there's yes so there's that yeah but then there's there's also this other
little part of it like so even someone who say doesn't have the pedigree like there's a white
guy from harvard right he has the straight a's the greatest whatever and then you might get a
a minus student who's a minority or a B-plus student,
and that would be more effective to have in a position because they have a different world experience.
So a meritocracy, in a sense, kind of leaves out some people who have different hurdles to get over
and have different life experiences that this person won't have.
You know, see what I'm saying?
Like, you become the people you're surrounded by. So you might be an African-American, but – or – so it's more important to have different economic represented.
Because you can be really smart, like Chelsea Clinton, but she doesn't know what it's like to have to have her medicine.
She doesn't know what it's like to have to drop a pharmacy to get medicine for her daughter.
You know what I mean?
It's like she might be super smart, but she doesn't have this information that we need,
which is like when FDR, when he was doing the banks and stuff, he got a banker from Texas.
He didn't go to Wall Street.
You know what I mean?
He got regular people to come in.
So there's something to that too, right?
So it's not just a straight meritocracy.
Well, it is a meritocracy in that there's merit in their life experiences.
Oh, okay.
We put it that way.
These individuals that live these difficult lives, look, I think that's one of the greatest
currencies that a person really carries with them in their life is their experience overcoming
adversity.
Their experience overcoming adversity shapes their character.
And when you meet someone, I mean, maybe you meet this woman and she has all Bs through college, but she's been through a lot of shit and she's uniquely clever in how she handles things.
And you talk to her and you look at her record and you go, you know what, I like you better than this guy who got all As because he seems kind of like spectrum-y and he's not going to fit in with my company.
But yeah, that makes sense but that again we're just you don't just look at meritocracy you don't just look at
grades you look at the human overall the individual and there's a lot of benefit to people that have
overcome difficult lives like those people come out interesting those people come out important
because they they've they've seen some shit that you haven't seen.
Yes, that is what, and they understand things that you don't understand.
Yes, yes.
And that's why like sort of like a guy like Barack Obama could have a diverse cabinet,
but they're all from the same class.
Right.
Right, but that's fake diversity, right?
That's fake diversity.
Right.
Yes.
So they're all, he still, he served, he served the establishment power like any white president did. And his cabinet did the same thing. By the way, his cabinet came from an email from Citigroup, which I know, you know. part of the problem with any of these conversations and also they're so loaded. When you talk about men or women or
black or white or anything, like everybody's on edge.
Like, don't say anything stupid.
How do you feel really?
Well, I'm white, so I don't
have those experiences, so I always try to limit
how I talk about it. Like I always say I shouldn't be
talking about this because I don't have...
You should be talking about anything you want
to talk about. This idea that you
should be silenced because you're not in some protected group, that's nonsense.
I'm always afraid I'm going to say something ridiculous and ignorant, which I do often say.
Yeah, me too.
I'm going to say ignorant, ridiculous shit.
You have to have the ability to say ignorant, ridiculous shit If you're going to have a free flowing conversation
Like you and I
We didn't even talk on the phone before this
We had no idea what we were going to talk about
We didn't do a pre-interview
Nothing
We did nothing
We come in and we start rattling
Can you imagine if we did a pre-interview
It would be hilarious
We just started talking about farts
Blowjobs
Cigars
It would be ridiculous
Fucking pre-interview
What do you want to talk about Jimmy?
I don't know
I fucking.
Yeah.
It would most certainly be ridiculous.
I would jack it off seven times a day to keep my testosterone up.
Let's talk about that.
Yeah.
Get it.
Get it.
Get it.
Pre-interviews.
They still do pre-interviews.
By the way, do you ever watch any of those shows ever?
No one does.
Very few people are watching those shows.
I mean, Conan O'Brien get less views than my show.
No, I know. It's sad. that's why they're all doing podcasts now
no one's watching that fucking show
there was a crazy article that Conan O'Brien is leading the way
oh my god
in new media
yes like what are you talking about
we've been doing this shit for 15 years bitches
and this
what the fuck
he doesn't even get good numbers on his podcast.
No?
No.
Like, the actual downloads, I mean, he does all right, but he doesn't do as good as, like,
Dax Shepard or me or any of the people that are at the top of the heap in comedy.
Well, you know, you use your platform, Joe, to actually have real conversations and say
things.
I haven't listened to Conan Bryan's podcast because, you know, I've got anything else
to do, but...
He's interviewing famous people.
Yeah.
It's fucking the same bullshit, and it's not...
I mean, hey, Marc Maron's got that covered, right?
He did that.
He's been doing it for 10 fucking years.
That's right.
People opened up to their heart.
So he has this thing, and then you do this other thing.
It's fucking covered.
You aren't breaking any new...
That was crazy.
That was a New York Times headline, wasn't it, Joe?
I think it was variety. Or was it variety? any new that was crazy. That was a New York Times headline, wasn't it, Joe? I think it was Variety. I think it was Variety.
And everybody in Hollywood was like,
what in the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah, yeah. And what was funny too,
yeah. I got tagged on it so many
times, I'm like, I'm not even going to comment, because
I can't. It's Conan O'Brien, he's revolutionizing.
Yeah, he's changing the game.
He's changing the game! Because they
had a photo shoot. Yeah. He's a white male. He's changing the game! Because he had a photo shoot.
Yeah, he's a white male.
For variety.
He's a problem.
He is a cis male.
He's another one of those white men at the top of podcasting.
It's bullshit.
Yeah, I don't know if he's at the top of podcasting.
I wouldn't say that.
All of it.
It's just gross.
Did you ever do his show?
No.
Yeah, I did his show before.
A couple times.
They all seem like nice people.
He's a nice guy.
He seems like...
They all seem like very nice people.
I feel bad when I go after them on Twitter.
I go after Andy Richter all the time.
Of course you do.
I go after Andy Richter all the time.
Why do you go after Andy Richter?
I can tell he's a nice guy.
I know he is.
Why do you go after him?
Well, because he's famous, right?
And he's a white male.
And he's a white male.
He's a real problem.
So it's very safe for me to go after him.
But there's this Hollywood mentality on the left.
Right.
And this Hollywood mentality on the left is that all bad things started in January 2017.
They have no idea how we got there.
So he's tweeting out this stuff about how Trump is has the cognition of an eight year old.
Right.
Because he wants to do war crimes.
And so what you know how great can you believe this guy?
I'm like, did they've been fucking doing war crimes since I
was born. Why are you acting like this just started?
We don't ever prosecute them,
and they're not going to prosecute him for war crimes.
Why are you fucking doing that? You know what war criminals
do? They go and dance with Ellen on
daytime television. That's the cognition of
Hollywood. Michelle Obama
says George Bush and her have the exact same values.
A war criminal! She has the
exact same, that's the cognition of a fucking first lady.
We're going to talk about cognition,
how we fucking got here,
and you're smarter than that, Andy Richter,
and that's why I hold his feet to the fire.
I know he's a nice guy.
But he gets locked into that team mentality.
It's all team.
It's all fucking vote blue no matter who.
It's all forget how we got here.
Let's forget that Barackack obama was unbelievably corrupt
which is why we don't have a functioning banking system which is why we don't have a functioning
health care system which we why he took us from two wars to seven which is why he had a peace
prize and a fucking kill list where's my kill list oh maybe it's underneath my peace prize i
use it as a paperweight kind of ironically anyway these are the things that i try
to focus on joe and by the way i was right about all of them yes and i was right about fucking
russia gate you were but the beautiful thing i come out here and do a victory lap yet you should
you should spin around your chair the thing about you though is like you are a left-wing guide that's
willing to criticize the left and for some people that seems to be a problem taboo thing like they
don't want to talk about the left oh you can't i'm first of all so i found out that uh people who want to make it in
the democratic party are not allowed to come to my shows no so i was doing a show and this woman
who i know who was involved in democratic politics i kind of want to say anything about who they are
because they'll get in trouble and so she came to my show and she goes you know this other person
who's climbing in the democratic party was supposed to come with me and at the last minute
She didn't and I called her I said why don't you come and she goes, you know
If I get seen at a Jimmy Dore show my career in the Democratic Party's over. Oh, it's Kamala Harris
I could tell by your accent you racist piece of shit. I could tell couldn't you tell Jamie I could tell and I'm like that
She has she ever been on your show? Kamala Harris?
Yes
Oh must be her
Oh we did some quick
Easy FBI work right there
So anyway
That made me feel good
That makes me feel good
I want to be an outsider
I don't want
I want people to be afraid of me
They're afraid of you now
Well
I don't know if they are
But they won't come on my show
So that's good
And by the way
My show was never about guests
My show was all about my opinion
Of course And calling out bullshit Yeah So it's not that's nobody doing the right thing
you're doing i'm doing the wrong thing because they all keep asking to be on my show oh okay
i've had requests from all of them really oh yeah biden warren how do you how do you resist that
shit because i'm gonna have my friends i'd rather talk to my friends yeah i know i would i get it
i like tulsi and I like Bernie.
That's it.
Oh, yeah?
Everybody else can eat shit.
Look at you, fucking progressive.
Yeah.
Well, I've always been.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
Everyone says you're a right winger.
They're out of their fucking mind.
I've never voted right wing in my life.
Really?
Never.
Never.
I voted Democrat except for Independent.
And I voted for Gary Johnson because he did my podcast.
People don't realize how powerful.
Yeah, I'm not right-wing at all.
Oh, okay.
That's wild.
No, there's nothing about me that's right-wing.
You kill your own food.
That's it.
Well, that's crazy.
95 plus percent of the population of the planet eats meat.
I just happen to kill my own.
Yeah, that's it.
It's not like 95% of the population is right-wing happen to kill my own yeah that's it so it's not like 95 of the
population is right wing because they kill their own food i i think there's a lot of right wing
like family values and things like that that i admire i think but when when you can't when it
gets to homophobia when it gets to women's rights that's where i break right i i'm a hundred percent
in favor of women's rights a hundred percent in favor of gay rights, gay marriage.
I'm a big proponent of there's got to be some new action taken to clean up a lot of these crime-ridden communities.
And the idea that we can spend all this money overseas, but we can't spend money on Flint, Michigan or Detroit or the south side of Chicago, that to me is insane.
That doesn't make any sense.
And this idea that we're all on the same starting page is so fucking stupid too.
That is a very non-right-wing way of looking at it because everybody's like,
you've got to pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
There's a lot of people that came out of bad neighborhoods,
but they didn't fucking cry, woe is me.
They just went out there and they kicked ass.
That's nonsense.
You have no idea what it's like to grow up in a crime-ridden,
poverty-infested, drug-addled neighborhood. You don't know what that's nonsense you have no idea what it's like to grow up in a crime-ridden poverty infested
drug addled neighborhood you don't know what that's like and we should make it so that no one
knows what that's like if we want america better the best way to start is to clean up all the spots
that suck and make people that are coming out of there have a real chance and making something out
of their life don't don't have it so that they're starting out from the time they're a child with a massive
deficit.
That, to me...
And what you mean by cleaning up the place?
I mean community programs, putting money into these communities.
Jobs.
Jobs.
Not just jobs, but community programs where kids have a safe place to go.
That's a big part of it.
Protect them from the gangs.
Put more cops in those neighborhoods and have them there all the time. Make them a part of it Protect them from the gangs Put more cops in those neighborhoods
And have them there all the time
Make them a part of the community
They've got to do something about the violence
And do something about the gangs
And this repetitive cycle
Of people growing up in these neighborhoods
And getting trapped in these same horrible conditions
That their parents did or their grandparents did
And it's an endless cycle
And we pretend like we don't have the resources to fix these.
FDR did.
FDR went and gave it.
You want a job?
I'll give you a job.
That means you're going to go work.
I'm not giving you anything.
You're earning it.
And guess what?
We have the money for it.
Wouldn't that be amazing if they did that?
There could be strategies that are implemented that might not all work.
But I don't feel like anything is doing it.
We're going to have enterprise zones yeah obviously that does and then and then they want the school to
fix all the problems of the community no what you need is jobs what people need is something to look
forward to they need to know that they if they do play by the rules they will get things you can
have a job right now those people work and they don't have any health care right and they get
broken their life goes upside down i mean you know how I have a job, but I got sick.
My life got turned upside down because of bills.
And this is not just black communities either.
We're talking about the coal mining communities in West Virginia.
West Virginia, exactly.
It's horrific, man.
You don't even, like, I have a good friend who's from there.
He's like, man, you don't know what poverty is like.
You don't even know what poverty is like until you see that.
These people have nothing.
I talked to a guy on my show his name is nick smith from virginia and he told me he was a waffle house cook
and he told me and i might even told you this before he said hey we all knew that donald trump
was a loudmouth yankee who should have had his ass kicked a long time ago but hillary clinton
wasn't offering us anything so he was at least offering us something right so they're desperate
these people need something.
She wouldn't even sign on to a $15 minimum wage when she was running.
What the fuck's wrong with you?
Yeah, well, she didn't even believe in gay marriage until 2013.
How about that?
2000 fucking 13 is when she came around with gay marriage.
Get the fuck out of here. You were ahead of her on that, weren't you, Joe?
Well, I actually lived in San Francisco around gay people when I was real little.
Really?
I was like 7 to 11.
My family lived right off of Lombard Street.
No kidding.
Yeah, we lived in San Francisco in the height of the, I mean, it was the Vietnam War.
There's all these hippies.
My stepdad's a hippie.
Oh, no kidding.
Yeah.
So it's like, I mean, I've been liberal my whole life.
I just look like a Republican.
You know?
Yeah, I think that's it. And you like beating the shit out of people.
Well, I like some violent things, and I have guns, and there's a lot of things that you could make an inference.
Like, oh, that guy seems like he would be.
But no, I...
My friend Graham Elwood is...
Do you know him?
Sure.
He was on his live stream the other day, and he's very anti-war like me.
And so these people were fucking with him to be pro-war.
And he's like, that's right, I'll knock you out.
That's right.
You ever been knocked out by a vegetarian?
Like, that should be a t-shirt.
That's hilarious.
You ever been knocked out by a vegetarian?
That's hilarious.
Well, that's another group that people like to play identity politics with.
What are you eating?
You know, how much of that is... So you with the meat. with the meat so my doctor dr sharp so now you have a special bone problem
dr sharp from pasadena that's right that's the holy shit yeah i should have said that i would
have been on it man so he tells me yes he always does this like this right he goes now jimmy you're
from chicago you eat meat right you eat deep dish pizza, right? That's what he says to me.
And I go, yeah, I'm trying not to.
And he goes, why?
I go, you know, global warming.
I saw cows jumping like dogs.
I feel bad.
That video of them bouncing around, yeah.
I can't eat pork anymore.
Just get it.
I just can't eat pork anymore.
Pork is shady. I can't eat pork anymore. Just get it. I just can't eat pork anymore. Pork is shady.
I can't do it.
But wild pigs must be stopped.
Oh, they can kill you, right?
Boars, wild boars?
They killed a lady in Texas and ate her.
They found her, an elderly lady, they found her in her driveway, torn apart by wild pigs.
She was on her way out to the car and she just ran into a pack of them and they took her out.
A pack?
Yeah.
Yeah, I've seen videos.
Those things are...
They have to kill them.
There's so many of them
and they breed so quickly.
They have four in a litter.
They'll have four litters in a year.
Really?
Yeah.
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
That's why there's millions and millions of wild pigs.
They started with just a few pigs
that were on like the Pinta or the Santa Maria or some shit.
And they spread across the entire country.
But once you find out that they have emotions.
Yes, that's a problem.
That's what I can't handle.
I can't do that.
They have emotions.
That's why you shoot them from a distance.
You don't want to get up close.
So your theory is they don't know it's coming.
No.
Well, that is a good way to do it.
But what if you kill their mother?
What if you have a pig and then you kill the pig's mother?
You don't do that if you're an ethical hunter.
You don't shoot a pig that has piglets.
Yeah.
You try to avoid that.
Unless-
What about a deer?
The only time they do-
They don't do that either.
That's illegal.
Oh.
The only time they do do that, though, in some places, it's illegal.
The only time they do do that with pigs is when they're trying to eradicate all of them.
There's some farmlands that experience just devastating losses because of wild pigs.
Especially in Texas.
Millions and millions of dollars a year, which cripples these companies.
They go under because of wild pigs.
Some farms can literally go bankrupt.
Oh my God.
You have no idea what it's like unless you've been around them.
But what about pig farming?
That's a different thing. Most pig farming is disgusting i can't it's horrible but then there's there's
ethical pig farms where they raise these pigs where they get let them roam around and the meat
looks different because they're eating acorns and natural food really yeah there's a guy named uh
joel salatin and he runs this uh farm called polyms, and he's all about regenerative farming.
And he discusses how the way animals live best is the way they live naturally.
And chickens are supposed to roam free.
So he has this portable chicken house, and they roll it into a new field.
And then the chickens go into the chicken house at night.
And then in the morning, they come out, and then they go roam around, and they move it to another spot.
So they eat all the bugs and all the grass and all the stuff in the area, and then they
move to a new spot.
And so they raise chickens, and the eggs are healthier, the pigs, the pork is healthier.
These pigs are wandering around in these open areas, and then they corral them, and then
they kill them quickly.
these open areas and then they corral them and then they then they kill them quickly i just once i found out you know they have real emotions like dogs i just think about my dog and yeah i just i
just fall apart i can't i hear you but but wild pigs are different yeah that's different because
they're an invasive species you know they actually morph they change shape when they become like a
wild pig and a domestic pig is the same animal
like when people talk about oh a russian wild boar this is all nonsense it's all su scroffa it's all
one genus it's the same animal really yeah when a wild when a pig a domestic pig goes wild i mean
there's different versions of them but they can all breed with each other when a domestic pig
goes wild like say if you had a domestic pig and you said go ahead
porky be free and you open up your gate within weeks within weeks they start to physically
change their snout starts to lengthen their hair gets thicker and bushier and their tusks grow
no kidding yes they literally become what you think of when you think of wild boars it just
takes a while but they they fit they're they're one of the weirder animals.
They're almost like gremlins when you feed them after midnight.
When you let them go, they start changing.
They morph.
So Dr. Sharp says to me from Pasadena,
he says, well, you should eat meat.
And I'm like, because of my condition, right?
And he tells this long story
about how we evolved he sits down and starts telling me and about how we were cavemen and
inside the glaciers and the thing and he's like so you should eat meat especially you because of
your condition and i go okay well how often and he goes every day and i was like jesus i can't do
that you know and so but this is medical advice from a guy who saved my life, right?
So it's like I eat meat a couple times a week.
Do you feel better or worse when you eat it?
I do have more energy.
Yeah, well, that's probably good, right?
Yeah, I know it.
Why don't you eat meat more often?
Just because of conscience.
You don't have to eat pork.
I know.
If you eat humanely raised meat. So there's grass fed
that kind of shit. Yeah, you can buy grass fed,
grass finished meat from farmers
that have a commitment to
humanely raised and humanely
euthanized animals. I won't say euthanized, killed
animals. And the way
they kill them when they harvest them, they just
lead them into a pen. They have no idea what's
coming. They put a bolt to their head and bang, they
take them out. It can be done in a way pen. They have no idea what's coming. They put a bolt to their head and bang, they take them out.
It can be done in a way where the animal has no idea what happens until it's over.
And it's not like they're going to live forever.
I mean, obviously, this is a slippery argument because you say that about people too, right?
This guy's an asshole.
Let's just kill him.
It's not like he's going to live forever.
You don't want to say that But the quality of the meat
Is far better
If the animal is living a natural life
You're talking about organic
No hormones
No antibiotics
No corn man
That shit's terrible for cows
They're not supposed to eat that
They're ruminants
They eat fucking grass
That's what they do
When they're at their best and healthiest
And healthiest for you
There's better fatty acids in it
It's just healthier for you
And so you think if you went vegetarian
It would be bad for your health?
I don't know
I don't think
I think it's definitely doable
I definitely think you can go vegetarian
And be healthy
But you have to be really careful about a lot
of your nutrient levels. You have to really
make sure you get enough vitamin D,
a lot of B12. You've got to
check your essential fatty
acid levels. There's a lot of
stuff that looks real good on paper
but then you find out it's not bioavailable.
I tried to go vegan for a while and I got
fat. Well, it's a lot of carbs.
Yeah, I didn't know what I was doing.
I wasn't doing it right, whatever.
I don't like soy.
Why don't you like soy?
I like tofu.
I don't fucking like that.
Just something about it.
Did you fuck with any of that vegan chicken stuff or any of those weird ones that make them look like real food?
There's a name for that.
Oh, no, no, but that fake meat they have now is fantastic.
It's really bad for you, though.
Do you know that?
It actually causes liver problems in rats.
What?
Yeah, pull up fake meat, liver problems, rats.
No.
Yeah, look, it's all oils.
So that stuff is all processed food oils.
It's processed vegetable oils.
And that's bad?
Yeah, just eat fucking vegetables, man.
If you want to be a
vegetarian eat vegetables look most there's a lot of people that would say a regular burger is not
good for you either but of course a regular burger is just meat with bread and all the bullshit the
bread and all the bullshit is what's bad for you it's not the burger itself as long as it's an
actual meat burger particularly if it's a grass-fed burger. So what is he pulling up?
He's pulling up this study about one of them. Beyond meat, the fake meat?
One of them.
Impossible burger, beyond meat, one of them.
But they were talking about how there's studies that are showing that this is not.
But again, they're not marketing it as a healthy alternative.
No.
They're marketing it as a meat-free burger.
Right.
And burger is kind of like a fun food anyway.
Here it is.
Rat feeding studies suggest the Impossible Burger may not be safe to eat.
L-O, fucking L.
Oh, wow.
But if you go to the ingredients, man, I've had scientists relay the ingredients to me.
I thought it was just coconut oil.
Oh, it's a bunch of fucked up stuff, because they've got to make it seem like it's a real burger.
Heme is that thing that makes it taste like it.
It's called heme. Heme iron.
Something like that. That's what gives it that flavor
that people are looking for. How are they getting that?
I don't know where they get that from. Soylent green.
Is that good? Is it people, Joe? It's people.
It's people.
That sucks.
That sucks. So you don't think you'll ever
stop eating meat? You think you'll always you're like animals are here for us to eat and that's... So you don't think you'll ever stop eating meat? You think you'll always...
You're like, animals are here for us to eat, and that's that.
I don't think that.
I think we definitely evolved.
The human animal evolved from eating meat.
And that's not under debate.
I mean, we evolved from eating meat.
And weirdo vegans will try to say crazy shit like, oh, why don't we have canines?
How come we can't eat meat raw?
Well, because, asshole, we figured out fire a long fucking time ago, and our bodies adapted because of that. shit like oh why don't we have canines how come we can't eat meat raw well because asshole we
figured out fire a long fucking time ago and our bodies adapted because of that our teeth adapted
because we figured out how to cut things with utensils and we figured out how to cook things
so they're more tender it's it's not as simple as like why do we have an appendix why is that i'll
tell you why because we used to eat differently and we still have a leftover organ some weird
fucking organ from for breaking down bark and shit you know we used to eat differently And we still have a leftover organ Some weird fucking organ
From breaking down
Bark and shit
You know
We don't need that anymore
We don't need bark anymore
Is that what
Yeah it's like roots and stuff
Like
Oh really
Yeah I think
That's what the appendix is for
I think it was initially
For breaking down
Like very hard
To digest
Fibrous things
So I have
My gallbladder out
Whoa
What did you do with it?
You gonna put it back in? Yeah I'm thinking about it I have my gallbladder out. Whoa. What did you do with it? You going to put it back in?
Yeah, I'm thinking about it.
I have it in my glove box.
What happened?
No, I was having gallbladder attacks.
I thought it was a heart attack.
Whoa.
Where's a gallbladder?
I don't even know where that is.
It was like right here.
Oh, Jesus.
And I always heard like your heart attack feels like it's in the center.
But this was a little lower.
I'm like, this is a heart attack.
I'm dying.
This is no doubt I'm dying. Oh, no. I thought for sure I was dying little lower i'm like this is a heart attack i'm dying this is no doubt i'm dying i thought for sure i was dying so i'm on the couch and i remember i'm just like
this is my wife calls the fireman and i'm just like this is it this is how it's going to happen
i i was kind of okay with it right but i wasn't because i was in a lot of pain i wanted it to end
i was like okay if i die i die but then they came and they shot me and i was like oh i feel
fantastic again so it wasn't
It was just my gallbladder
They took it out
What does it do?
The gallbladder secretes bile
Into your stomach to help digest things
So gallbladder would be like
For bile when your liver makes bile
It's like your reservoir
So now I don't have a reservoir anymore
So now it just is always kind of dripping
Does it fuck with you anymore?
You know it's fucked with me a lot
In lots of different ways
Yeah my appetite is
Gets weird when you get nervous?
It doesn't come
It doesn't come on slowly
It just bam
So that's why you had to eat when you were on stage like that
So that happened
Oh that makes sense
So that and then often
Often After I eat I have to go to the bathroom right away right away
yeah i don't know ever since i had my gallbladder i don't know if other people have that i haven't
googled it now was there any alternative to getting it removed did they say hey maybe you
could change your diet i was not given a alternative there was so there's you have like
calcium and deposits in your thing and they block the duct.
And then that's what causes all the pain.
And so eventually it'll dislodge itself, and the pain will go away.
But it could kill you if it stays and doesn't go away.
And so they have to take it out.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
And guess what?
So here's a great story about our medical system, right?
So I have Blue Cross insurance.
I have the best that you could buy or what have you.
And so I had my second gallbladder attack, and I was like, I got to get this goddamn thing out because I can't have this happen again.
It hurts too much, right?
So I called the doctor, and they're like, I can't even get a consultation for three weeks in network.
So I have to get a consultation.
Then I have to wait another three or four weeks to get a so i have to get a consultation then i have to wait wait
another three or four weeks to get the operation so this could maybe be two months before i get
the operation of these attacks and i'm gonna have another goddamn attack so i went out of network
and i got another doctor to come take care of me faster so i couldn't have to worry about this
so i had to pay out of pocket god damn yes had to pay out of pocket. Goddamn son of a bitch. So this whole thing, you're going to have to wait. You have to fucking wait right now.
Yeah.
It's ridiculous why you act like that.
No, it's true.
It is true.
It is true.
I have friends in Canada.
It's way worse up there, though.
About waiting?
Yeah.
I had a friend.
She needed a knee operation.
They waited a fucking year.
So for a whole year, she's walking around with a torn ACL.
Really?
A fucked up knee.
Yeah.
A whole year.
A year.
12 months.
365 days.
Just hobbling around. Do you know anybody
in Canada that would trade their healthcare
plan for a United States healthcare plan? No, they don't want to pay for it.
Once you don't have to pay for it, you don't want
to pay for it. You know, there's a
great video where this guy interviews
people in England and he asks them, how much do you
think it costs to be married? I saw it.
To have a baby. To have a baby. And they're like,
$100?
Try $10,000. He's like, what? What he's like what yeah i saw this yeah everybody freaks out everybody freaks out yeah well once you're used to things being free you don't want to pay for them i don't look i think
health care should be free i really do i think education should be free i think if we're going
to spend money as a community if we have a gigantic community of people and that's what a country
really is that's it it's a community what is the most important gigantic community of people, and that's what a country really is, right? That's it. It's a community.
What is the most important thing to take care of?
Well, we've got to take care of old people, sick people.
We've got to take care of poor people.
We've got to take, like,
the idea that somehow or another
that this is a foolish notion,
that you have to take care of people,
that education,
it wouldn't be better if more people were educated?
Yeah.
So why shouldn't that be free?
Well, we don't have the money, but have how much money how much 131 extra billion
they gave trump that'd be a lot of education yeah a lot of people learn shit that way yeah
that's almost that's double the money it would take to send everybody to college for free
that's hilarious 65 billion dollars a year to send everybody to college they just spent 131
billion to give give to him that's double right i'm not a math surgeon, but I'm pretty sure that's double.
Math surgeon.
I think if we figured out a way to, you know.
You know, Ari Shaffer says the same stuff.
Yeah.
I was just on his show and he was saying, we got to take care of homeless people.
I'm like, I thought you were a right winger.
Oh, he's not right wing at all.
I guess not.
Ari's very left wing.
Why'd you think everybody was right wing?
Because we talk shit?
I don't know.
I just hear shit, you know, on social media or whatever.
Oh, those idiots they just think because i've talked to alex jones or
because i've had you know right wing people on that you know oh you're platforming people joe
yeah i've been friends with alex jones since the 90s i've known that guy forever joe when i went
in uh that never tell you this story when you spit in his face so when so when the iced teas
accidentally i got uh so um so whatever first i didn't think
that would be that big of a deal wow that turned out to be a big deal right right so then whatever
so then the next day i talked to some people from his show and we were all friends right but not him
and so i went down like a couple months later to do uh austin so i go to this the steakhouse right
there i forget it's the name
it's the big place right
it's right across the street
from the West End
and so I'm there
my brother came down
for the weekend
my brother and his wife
and we're all sitting there
we're eating
and all of a sudden
my brother goes
Alex Jones just walked in
he's sitting right behind you
I go get the fuck out of here
he's gonna come
beat me up
I thought he was gonna come
and my brother
gets up this way
and he's like
I'm friends with Joe Rogan
but my brother's a big guy
right
so all my brothers
are bigger than me
and tough too
right
and so I was like
alright well if you see
him coming this way
you gotta
let me know
so he's back
and he goes
he just sat down
he shook hands
with this guy
three times
I go
oh it sounds like
they're up to something
I go and we were luckily we like they're up to something.
I go, and luckily we were finishing.
And I was like, okay, I'm going to finish and I'm going to walk the fuck out of here.
That's hilarious.
Just get out of here, slick.
He could crush me.
He wouldn't.
You would be able to talk to him.
He's a lot more reasonable than people think he is.
Especially now.
Now he's not drinking anymore. Oh, really? Yeah, he's been off booze for um shit i want to say many
many months now yeah it's been quite a while he has no drinking he's changed who he's he's
realized he was losing his fucking mind he's getting deplatformed he was drinking a like a
bottle bottle a half of vodka every night.
Yeah, he was going hard.
Stressful times.
I can understand why people do shit like that.
And when you do drink that much,
you do get psychotic.
Like you start- Dude, I love drinking and I can't,
I don't drink like I used to anymore because-
Well, you get older too.
Your body can't process it right anymore.
I wake up the next day, I'm depressed.
Yeah.
Yep.
I love drinking martinis during a live show.
I go back and...
And the next day, you're like, oh. Next day, I'm like, oh, everything's wrong.
Everything's bad. I'm this...
But you know what a lot of that is? A lot of it is not just
the alcohol. It's also the dehydration.
Oh, yeah? If you just hydrate
and take a lot of electrolytes...
You think? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can
mitigate a lot of that stuff. Also,
glutathione. Glutathione can help your body process alcohol quicker.
Glutathione?
Glutathione, yeah.
It's an antioxidant, super potent antioxidant.
Yeah, it actually, your body produces it and aids in the process of processing alcohol.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, it can help you a little bit.
Give you a little boost.
I did drink in Hawaii.
They have Mai Tais.
I bet you did.
Those fucking Mai Tais, bet you did Man I loved them
I couldn't stop drinking them
They taste so good
Yeah that's the problem
When things are delicious
But yet also get you fucked up
Alcohol
Yeah
But I wasn't driving anywhere
I didn't have to do anything
So it was alright
There used to be a place
In West Palm Beach
Improv
And downstairs
They had one of those
Alcoholic
Slurpee places Oh no You know those things Yes And they taste fucking delicious Yes And they had one of those alcoholic slurpee places.
Oh, no.
You know those things?
Yes.
And they taste fucking delicious.
And they had one of them called Call a Cab.
And you would drink it.
It was like, I drank one on stage once
and by the end of the show,
I was like, thank God the show ended the way it did
because I forgot how to talk.
Really?
Oh my God, I was so sloshed.
By the time the show was over,
I was one glass.
I mean,
one like,
it was like a big gulp sized
call a cab.
I don't know how many drinks
were in this one.
How many shots were there?
Like seven shots or something?
Fuckload.
But it's like a giant mix, right?
Yeah.
So it's just like 7-Eleven Slurpees.
Yeah.
It all comes out.
I got a lot of sugar in it.
Oh, all sugar.
But it tastes good.
It tastes good
and you get fucked up.
Yeah.
I've never been that fucked up on stage.
There was a time when I was going through a phase where I dropped my pants on stage.
Oh, you stopped doing that?
I did.
People start to complain.
Why?
I don't know.
I'm like, this is the oldest comic gig in the fucking thing.
This is the gag.
You drop your pants.
I'm Jerry Lewis.
It's funny.
Did you have underwear on? Yeah. Oh, no. underwear on yeah oh no yeah ari pulls his hog out not anymore i think he's scared now can you do that isn't that illegal
still kill you pull your hog out he pulled his hog out at uh skank fest in new york they had a
you know skank fest i'm again i'm not familiar you gotta get in the loop i know i'm out of it
i did a few weeks ago i killed you? I killed Tony, yeah.
You pulled this hog out again?
Yeah, right before he was here.
Right before maybe Tony was here one of the times.
Where was it?
Mainstage.
Oh, in the comic store?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, probably shouldn't say that.
That could probably be a problem. What was embarrassing?
It was illegal.
Well, I used to do it, Joe.
It's a fake rubber dick.
Don't worry about it, folks.
I used to do it.
You used to pull your dick out?
Yeah, and then nobody noticed that I was embarrassing.
I get it.
I get it. It's a joke. Yeahe just sometimes i do jokes all right i you know what am i here
my father no it's okay it's all fine it's all fine ari uh has always done ridiculous shit he
used to go on stage with his balls out of his pants and how to dress it so he'd go on stage
and do his act and what he would do is he would just unzip his pants,
pull his sack out,
and then just have only his sack
hanging out while he was on stage.
Who did it at the store
where there was like
someone on stage
putting the bombing
and he has Joey behind him?
There was a woman on stage.
She was terrible.
Like one of the worst comics
that's ever done comedy.
And this one night
she was killing.
I mean fucking killing.
And this is why.
When she would hit a punchline,
Joey was hiding behind the stage and he was naked.
And he'd go,
and then he would close the curtains.
And so she would get this giant fucking laugh.
And she was like, wow.
And you can see her kind of feeling her oats.
And then she's like,
and then I told him, fuck you.
And I'm like,
No.
Yes.
Balls ass naked. That seems like you could be in jail. No. Yes. Balls ass naked.
That seems like you could be in jail.
That seems criminal.
With Joey's balls look like grapefruit in an old lady's pantyhose.
And he's got a giant dick.
So Joey would, you know, he's got this huge belly.
So he opens up the curtains.
Oh, Jesus.
His pants are down by his ankles.
His balls and his dick are hanging out.
He's got this huge belly.
Yeah.
She never did comedy again.
Really?
No.
I'm making that up.
Oh, okay.
She should have.
There he is.
That's in Austin, actually.
That was where we were at the hotel, hanging out in the, there's Ari in the background.
Yeah.
Hanging out at the jacuzzi, getting ready for the show.
Wow.
Yeah.
Back in the day. I mean, like comedy ready for the show. Wow. Yeah. Back in the day.
I mean,
like comedy,
it's already dangerous enough.
Yeah.
I don't need to add nudity.
Well,
you get in trouble now
for things like that.
Like people can get
really angry at you
for showing your dick.
Well, that could...
It's not like the olden days.
It was kind of a...
It was a subtle gag.
It's a goof.
People could see it.
Yeah. I mean, nobody cared. It's a goof. People could see it. Yeah.
It's a goof.
Nobody cared.
It's got its cock out.
Yeah.
Joey used to do it all the time.
Yeah.
I remember when I was a kid, I had older sisters, and there was a flasher in our neighborhood.
And they would go, I'm like, oh, the guy flat.
I'm like, I don't understand this whole thing.
I don't understand why he's doing that.
I don't understand why it freaks you out so much.
It's like the whole thing, but now I understand why it freaks you out so much it's like i don't the whole thing but now i do now i understand why
it freaks them i get the freaking out i still don't get why they do it but i think it has
something to do with someone traumatizing you when you're young it's got yeah it's got to be
humiliation something you're addicted to that kind of there's lots of people like that yeah well how
about guys who are addicted to they hire women to gag them and shit on
them and kick them in the balls and sometimes like really powerful men.
And hurt them.
Yeah, yeah.
Like hurt them.
Stomp their nuts.
Like stomp on their nuts with a stiletto and then it starts bleeding.
How is that fun?
How is that, what is that?
I don't know.
That is such a-
Broken people.
That is broke.
So down a rabbit hole of humiliating.
I mean, I was hit a lot.
I went to Catholic.
I got all the guilt and hitting.
And somehow I managed to avoid that kind of shit.
I think that is...
Not that I don't have weird shit, but...
That's some mommy shit.
And it's like the whole pantyhose and beating you and kicking you in the balls.
It's like, there's obviously...
It's got to be your mom, right?
There's a spectrum of pathologies that people can develop in
their life.
And there's probably a lot of mental illness involved in there and violence and abuse.
But apparently there's a woman that I talked to who's a dominatrix.
And she was telling me and Jim Norton, you know, Jim Norton.
Yeah, I know Jim.
And a dominatrix.
He loves dominatrix.
And she was saying most of her clients are like these like wealthy CEOs and they run these companies and they're the fucking man
and when they walk in, oh, Mr. Wilson's here.
Hello, Mr. Wilson, can I get you a cup of coffee?
And everyone's kissing their ass and they want someone to shit on them,
like literally shit on them.
They want someone to tie them up and she would say that those are the guys.
Why is that though?
I guess it's just.
So every powerful guy wants to like feel a release of their power
well that's why when the John Wayne wanted to be shit on I don't get it maybe the steel dossier
right when they were talking about Trump getting peeing on and all that stuff or peeing on them
that's why it made sense it's like well of course of course what not that it's real not that it made
sense when it's real but that would be a story because you would kind of expect from a super
powerful guy who had a weird kink.
Right.
Super powerful guys with weird kinks, they usually want to get pegged, right?
They want to get pissed on.
Pegged.
Pegged is the best.
That's one of the best things.
Because you could say pegged on national TV right now.
Yes.
It's still, you can still say it.
They're pegged.
No one can stop you.
Right?
Pegged is not
like it's not in the dictionary i don't think right if you say butt fucked with a dildo people
go hey but you shouldn't even say that because it's too wordy economy of words pegged fits better
and it's it's it's got a p and a g pegged how do you just not start laughing when when she starts
pegging you i don't know how do you just not start laughing? You might be really into it.
Oh yes, I'm a bad
boy.
I don't get it. What do the
women get out of it? They get to
dominate you and fucking humiliate you.
Yeah, I knew a guy and this girl
said that she would fuck him if
he let her peg him.
And he wouldn't do it. Oh,
really? She wanted to do it. Yeah, well, And we were calling him gay. She wanted to do it.
Yeah.
Well, she said,
she goes,
I'll let you fuck me,
but I want to fuck you in the ass.
How pretty was she?
She was pretty hot.
And all my friends called him gay.
Well.
Bro, you're gay.
You should have just fucked her
and let her take you in the ass.
You won't let someone fuck you in the ass.
You're gay.
And my friend,
it was funny,
he was like,
it's not even a real dick, bro.
Ah!
Ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha! You're gay. My friend, it was funny. He was like, it's not even a real dick, bro. There's no win there for this guy.
Yeah, they're like, look, she's hot, man.
She probably doesn't want to fuck you, but she's willing to do it if you're willing to do something for her.
She probably always wanted to peg a guy.
You got to make some sacrifices.
Yes. her she probably always wanted to peg a guy you got to make some sacrifices yeah it's like your
joke about the the female version of uh who wants to give you a job in hollywood movie oh harvina
weinstein yeah yeah it's like that harvina weinstein came to my son with a solid contract
i'd be like dude you're gonna be batman that's true we were talking about that last night with
r kelly like the r kelly story
is horrific right he's having sexual 15 16 year old girls but imagine if j-lo had a bunch of 15
and 16 year old boys locked up in a house somewhere in miami she's making them all eat her ass
and videotaping them we would be laughing we'd be it's so funny it's so different it is a different
thing men and women are different yeah they're a different thing And this idea that we're not different
Is so stupid
We're not math
Right
We're very different
Right
Yeah
But we're in denial of that
Because we work in these environments
Where men and women are side by side
40 hours a week
And everybody's under
Human resources
Fucking tight grip of behavior
And so everybody
Guys act weird
And then men don't want
their women mad at them
so they have to pretend
that yeah,
these guys are assholes.
This guy's a total pig.
Yeah.
As a male feminist,
I find that atrocious.
You know who's not
a male feminist?
You know who you never find
that's a male feminist?
Gay guys.
Because they're not
trying to fuck you.
Okay,
so they don't have to play
some stupid game
that they care about women
more than they care
about anything.
And women's equality
is the most important thing. No, they're trying to suck dick and butt stupid game. They care about women more than they care about anything and women's equality is the most important thing
No, they're trying to suck dick and butt fuck dudes. They're having a good time
That's what they do
They're not they're having a fun time with other gay guys
They don't give a fuck they don't want you to be victimized, but they're not gonna go out of their way as a male ally
That's all guys trying to fuck you a hundred percent. It is 100%
Sneaky guys who can't figure out all guys trying to fuck you. 100%. It is 100% sneaky guys who can't figure out
any other way to fuck.
That they pretend to be female allies
or feminists? Yeah, male feminists.
You can just be a nice person who's got
good values and ethics and you want
equality for all.
But the idea that you're a male feminist,
you come out, I'm a male feminist.
Just saying those words out of your fucking mouth.
You're a sneaky fuck.
I know what you're doing.
You're sneaky.
You're a gender traitor.
So you're telling me that guys who say, I always thought feminism was just about treating women equally.
That's because you're talking to too many liberals.
What is it about?
Well, it is about treating people equally if you feel that it's about treating people equally.
But when you hear a man say that he's a male feminist, you're going so out on a limb.
You're not just saying, I'm all about treating people equally.
You're labeling yourself.
And you're labeling yourself in this
sort of submissive
sort of, you're giving
in to this cultural wave.
So let me just, can you, what is the definition
of feminism? Is that okay if I can ask?
Who the fuck knows? Right? I mean, he's going to look it up,
right? I can ask Suri. I bet you she knows.
Yeah, ask Suri. Okay, ready?
We've got to end this soon i know
hey siri what's the definition of feminism advocacy advocacy of women's rights on the
basis of equality of the sexes boy that's an open-ended statement right there equality of
the sexes how weightlifting making babies there's no advocacy of women's rights based on the equality
of sexes that is of the sexes.
Well, I think you're equal, but you can be equal but different.
Well, we're not math, right?
Right.
We certainly should have equal rights.
We certainly should have just equal, the way people treat each other, just equal morals and ethics.
Another definition of feminine, the theory of political, economic, social equality of the sexes,
organized activity on behalf
of women's rights and interests.
I mean, that sounds like shit
that you would agree with, Joe.
Well, organized activity on behalf,
this is going to take too long.
Okay.
Unfortunately, because it's 3 o'clock.
Okay.
But yeah, I agree with most of those things.
What I don't agree with
is someone labeling themselves that way
that's a man.
Because everyone that I've ever met
is a little weasel.
Well, I'm...
I always say,
show me a male feminist
that can pick up heavy things
and run fast.
They don't exist.
They don't exist.
You don't think George Clooney
calls himself a feminist?
Does he?
I don't know.
Does he have to?
Probably has to.
You think he gets pegged?
Yes.
But I think it's Brad Pitt.
I like how you look
Jesus Christ
Like I'm going in
Jimmy I love you
We ought to do this more often
Yes I would love to
Please can we do this more often
It's always great to talk with you
It's always great to talk to you too
Tell everybody how to get to your show
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Everything
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Always appreciate it, brother.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Bye, you fucks.