The Joe Rogan Experience - #1460 - Donnell Rawlings
Episode Date: April 17, 2020Donnell Rawlings is a stand up comedian, actor, and podcaster. His new podcast “The Donnell Rawlings Show” is available on Spotify. ...
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One. Donnell!
We're live.
So good to see you.
Okay, this is not the cough that people expect.
This is just a weed cough.
Donnell has not been tested.
He will be tested today.
At the end of the podcast.
I'm not worried.
But you ain't got to blow it up like that, man.
Give me a chance to explain. I'm not worried. Give you ain't got to blow it up like that, son. Give me a chance to
explain. I'm not worried. I'm not worried. Give me a chance.
And I understand.
I haven't, but I have
subscribed.
I have my measure. I have subscribed
to social distancing.
Social distancing, 100%. But the
new normal.
Should we move over a little bit? The new normal.
And the new normal. And this has nothing to do with you,
Joe. But just
I'm just saying this.
I'm protecting
possibly protecting myself
from me to
you. And I love you.
And I know that we have a certain amount of trust
factor. But this 19
shit is kind of dead
in how trustworthy you are to somebody what do you think
this is well first of all i think what's really important for everybody right now is to strengthen
your immune system first of all can i tell you something yo bro you look good you look like you
lost weight thank you maybe like five pounds yeah but i feel good thank you yeah should i we don't
take that fucking thing all right where i knew motherfers that eat elks don't give a fuck about no COVID.
Yo, once you eat elk, you don't give a fuck about no COVID.
Well, that's one thing is like eating well, eat healthy, take vitamins.
This is what you need to take for sure.
Vitamin C, large dose of vitamin C, vitamin D, and zinc.
Those are very important right now.
Right.
And just for-
Zinc gets you around.
Isn't zinc an aphrodisiac also?
Yes, it's good for loads.
So you can get your immune system up and get everything up.
Well, that's all connected to your body being healthy.
You know, the more vital your body is, the more vitality you have.
Right.
You know, the more your- everything's going to work better.
Your hormones, your immune system, everything.
So those are things that I recommend to everybody.
But nobody's thinking about that, Joe. Oh, you got to. That's everything. No, I'm saying you have everybody. But nobody's thinking about that, Joe.
Oh, you got to.
That's everything.
No, I'm saying you have to, but nobody is thinking about that.
Like everybody is like so afraid COVID to COVID to COVID.
But I personally think that you should be more afraid of catching a cold and the flu than getting COVID-19.
I think you should be afraid of COVID-19, but you should also be afraid of catching the flu.
Right.
You know, all of it's bad.
All of it's bad.
You know, it's not good to be sick.
But when you protect your immune system and keep your body healthy and strong, it definitely, it's like you have troops.
All right.
You got to think of the virus as like an invading army.
100%.
All these viruses.
And apparently that Lex Friedman quote, what was it?
How many different viruses are there?
Hundreds of thousands that are constantly competing?
He was describing it, this genius Russian scientist that I have on the podcast sometimes.
He was like, specifically the COVID virus?
Well, he's talking about all viruses in general.
He's saying it's like a world war out there, viruses.
But what I hear, and when it comes to it being a world war, I've heard that-
Here it is.
Look what this guy wrote.
There's 320,000 plus distinct viruses in mammals and 100 million invertebrates in plants.
There's an epic microscopic world war going on all around us and inside us.
Nature is beautiful and terrifying.
So why is this one getting headlines?
If that's the case, why is this getting headlines?
It's new. It's a novel coronavirus,
meaning no one has an immune system for it.
No one has developed immunity.
When you think about other diseases
like the common cold or
different flus,
we've had flus. People have
a certain amount of immunity to flu. You get flu
shots. You can get a flu shot. It gives you an immunity to a certain amount. Even when they get the flu shot wrong,
apparently, because sometimes they guess the wrong flu strain, it still has enough of what a flu is
to protect you somewhat, so to keep you from getting more sick. So corona is actually a strand
of, it's like the baby brother of the flu? Not really. It's a type of virus.
A coronavirus is a whole category of viruses that includes the common cold.
This is, they call it SARS-2 or COVID-19.
And this is a new one.
So the problem with this is no one knows how it gets spread.
Like even back as far as January, they were thinking it didn't spread through the air.
They were thinking it didn't spread person to person.
And I know this might be some ignorant questions,
but I know a lot of ignorant people.
No ignorance, man.
It's not ignorance.
Like none of us really know.
We're learning.
So is that what the, like you said,
I think what people are fearful of the most,
if it's airborne.
Yes.
I mean, I don't know if that
is the specific reason why they're enforcing wearing masks or whatever yes and i don't know
if we've got to that panic stage i know none of the people have announced it or anything
but it hasn't been classified as a virus that's airborne like it doesn't just fly around
motherfucking fly around shit all day.
Well, when a virus is airborne, what it means is, like, when you sneeze or you cough or you, you know, breathe on someone, there's moisture that's going through your mouth and into the air.
And it's spreading.
It's traveling a certain amount of distance.
That's how things are airborne.
It's not like they're just flying around.
It's they're coming out of people and they're getting in other people.
So the average space a motherfucker can
spit some shit is six feet before it can
affect you? There's a lot
of theories. Some people think it could be as much
as 13 feet. Really? Yeah, they
don't know. It's all guesswork. It's all
guesswork. They're learning
as they go along how far, but they
do know it travels through the air. They definitely
know that there was a really sad story about a choir that got together.
Black?
I don't know.
I don't know.
They didn't say it.
How many people died?
A choir?
A couple people died because they were all singing together.
And when you're singing together, you're raising your voice
and you're projecting.
So probably like filling the air with all this stuff.
and you're projecting, so probably like filling the air with all this stuff.
You know?
I just, it's just interesting, man, because you like, everybody, all you hear people say is like, I can't wait for it to get back to normal again.
I can't wait.
People, like people, and I think that people want to have enough confidence in the government
or Donald Trump for Donald, I think some people are just waiting for confidence in the government or Donald Trump for Donald.
I think some people are just waiting for him to say, okay, we're good.
It's over.
And that's not going to be the case.
No.
It'll never be like.
Charlamagne posted something on Instagram today.
I don't fuck with Charlamagne, son.
Was it a booty picture?
No, it wasn't a booty picture.
It wasn't a booty picture?
It wasn't a picture of him kissing Tunkins and Malik Yobas, son?
Could you go to Charlamagne's Instagram?
Yo, son, you know you can't bring that name up around me, son.
You guys love each other.
Oh, my God.
Booty, booty, booty.
Can you introduce this with some booty music at least, son?
You just started a fucking fight.
I didn't.
I didn't.
What he posted.
Oh, my God.
And his name is Lenard, Joe.
Okay.
Charlamagne is a great name.
Oh, yeah, but the guy part is the thing I would never connect with.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, he can get away with it somehow.
Lenard.
Lenard.
He even says that.
But if you go to his Instagram, there's something he posted about the Spanish flu.
Why you ain't go to the one I posted about here?
Oh, that's my...
Well, go ahead.
And Spanish flu.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
I don't know if you know which one it is.
No, it's a photograph.
I think...
God damn it my wrong I
was pretty sure what about that what a Charlemagne you want to show that one
what about that's the one you know I don't know that Charlemagne I know that
motherfucker with them yellow Richard Simmons booty shorts that's what I'm a
lose track what we're talking about and I promise I won't interrupt it I know
no I'm just saying Joe I know I, Joe. I'm trying my hardest. I know you guys.
I'm trying my hardest not to interrupt, man, but I can't stay in them booty shorts.
But go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead, man.
Maybe it wasn't his.
I swore I did not bring this up just to start this shit.
No, it seemed like you set me up, bro.
No, no, I did not.
I would never do that.
I would never do that.
I only did it because he—
So whoever—I thought it was him.
Someone posted—maybe he did it on Twitter.
I don't know.
did it because he so whoever i thought it was him someone posted maybe he did it on twitter i don't know someone posted something that was a picture of uh these people that got tired of social
distancing after the 1918 flu right and they were out in the streets celebrating the end of the war
and they said that that started a resurge in cases and the second wave wound up killing more people
than died in the war you know who those people were?
Young men.
A lot of them. No, they were motherfuckers that was in fucked up relationships.
Joe, if Corona don't test anything, yo, if Corona don't test anything, it's going to test the love that you have for the person that you're supposed to love.
Yes.
And I'm pretty sure, like, nobody wants to die.
Right?
Right.
Definitely nobody wants to die. Right definitely nobody wants to die right but sometimes
They just bitches that you know what?
Huh, you finding out I made a mistake
You made a mistake, but you start and I hope this is not the case with people you start weighing it
You like oh fuck man. I swear but women with men to man. Imagine living with a guy who's falling apart right now.
Falling apart, and the health-wise, they're just mentioning their life.
Just, like, if you're together, you're together in a house 24-7,
and, you know, you're falling apart as far as, like, the way you're handling this.
Like, some people can just accept, okay, this is a new normal.
People run around like that. So you're talking about the bits from up there?
Open the fucking government back up.
Right.
There's people that are freaking out right now.
Right.
And there's people that have points
and there's people that don't have points,
but men and women,
like, everybody's a mess right now.
But you know, you're absolutely right.
And this is where,
and I know you got it.
You're a fan of David.
You know what I'm saying?
Love him.
David and David Goggins. Oh, love him too. You know what I'm saying? Love him. David and David Goggins.
Oh, love him too.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I agree with you.
Like, you have different mindsets when something like this happens.
Yeah.
You have the mindset of like, oh, fuck, what am I going to do?
How am I going to get money?
Fuck.
Oh, my God.
I only can survive off of one week.
Somebody please help me.
You got that motherfucker, the bitch motherfucker.
Then you got a motherfucker that's calm and says, okay, there will be some challenges.
I'm not sure where the next money's going to come from.
But I can't just sit there and bitch about it.
I got to do something about it.
You got to do something about it.
Like you say, and one of the things that this is going to, what's going to happen with this,
it's going to increase awareness on so many fucking levels.
Because they do these COVID fucking briefs every day, right?
And there's three things they say
is going to really fuck you up if you do.
Drugs, alcohol, and it's another one.
Drugs.
Obesity.
Obesity, drugs, and alcohol.
They said obesity was the number one factor
in New York City.
And this is the thing.
This is what they don't report.
And I'm not shitting on anybody, you know.
God bless.
I mean, hopefully nobody I know gets it.
I don't want shit to happen anyway.
But this is what they don't mention when they say these numbers.
You know, and it's crazy.
I ain't trying to be an asshole.
500 people died today.
They don't break it down.
Is it 500 Joe Rogan niggas?
Is it 500 David Gogan niggas? Is it 500
David Goggins niggas? No, it's
probably, it's,
you know what it is. It is, but sometimes
it's not. That's what's scary about this shit.
I know sometimes it's not, but we do
know, Joe, that it contributes.
It has a major factor in it. It's a major
factor and people need to know that it's a major factor
and stop saving their feelings.
Just letting them know as a fact.
Yeah.
Some fat motherfuckers is dying of COVID.
Yes.
And sometimes like when you're just talking shit about someone being fat.
I saw a motherfucker on the internet, Joe.
This nigga was live with a ventilator.
Right?
He sounded like Biggie Smalls.
He was like, I'm letting y'all know this is serious.
Nigga, yes, it's serious.
You know what else is serious too?
Those 10 pieces of chicken.
That extra sweet tea, that motherfucking potato salad with mayonnaise and mayonnaise and mayonnaise and mayonnaise.
All of that shit is important.
All of it is relevant.
All of it's relevant.
All of it is fucking relevant.
It's delicious food, but you know what you're doing when you're eating it.
When I talk to you. When you drink something, it's like you know why you're drinking it.
If you drink it like a regular Coca-Cola, it's goddamn delicious. But you know you're going to pay for it. You know what you're something, that's like you know why you're drinking it. Like if you drink it like a regular Coca-Cola.
Right.
It's goddamn delicious.
But you know you're going to pay for it.
You know what you're doing, though.
It's like Fram oil filters.
You can pay me now or you can pay me later.
That's one of my shop teachers used to tell me that all the time.
He'd be like, I was a fuck up in school, right?
And he'd be like, Donnell.
I'd be fucked.
And he'd be like, Donnell, listen.
My lessons are like Fram oil filters.
You can pay me now or you can pay me later.
I was young and dumb.
When you're young and dumb, you don't know what wisdom is.
You're like, this old motherfucker needs to shut the fuck up.
I didn't know what he meant until those lessons he tried to teach me then.
As I got older, I was like, now I know what the fuck he's talking about.
You can pay me $2 for this air filter now or $3,000 for a whole new transmission.
You know what I'm saying?
And people don't understand that.
That's a way of looking at it for sure.
But the problem with people's bodies and, like, what they put into them is they get this connection in their head that this is rewarding them, that food is rewarding them.
That's sugar.
Yeah.
Right?
It's sugar.
It's a trap. It's sugar
and it's carbohydrates. Black people, we've been
trapped for so long, bro.
No, no, more than you. Black people, you go to
any black person's house, you're going to have
sugar in the cabinet and salt.
You go to a white person's house, you have
oregano.
You have thyme. You have rosemary
and shit. You'll be like, where the fuck is the sugars?
Where's the salts?
But you cook, right?
Yeah, I do.
Do you, like, are you big into spices?
Do you know your spices?
I'm not big.
I know my spices.
But one of the things that I'm trying to do, and not like Heather B., because Heather B. is a good friend of mine, right?
And she just, everything is fried, right?
What I want to do, and I get impressed, is trying to cook cleaner.
I want to do, and I get impressed, is trying to cook cleaner.
And for a black person, telling a black person to eat clean, it's like, ugh, that shit nasty.
Do you get your health work done?
Do you get, like, blood work done to see where your body's at? I don't know where my COVID shit is right now.
They're going to come here.
Why are you looking?
Goddamn.
You're like, who's going to administer the test?
Is it going to be Charlemagne?
As long as it's not Charlemagne.
You can't fly here from New York City.
They won't let you.
And I want to know, and that's another thing that's a drawback of this whole process.
Who has access to a test?
You know what I mean?
Who has access to a test? Yeah. You know what I mean? Who has access to a test?
There's a whole line outside.
If you go, there's like a bunch of these stations.
They've set up all around the valley where you can pull in and they'll give you a test.
But is that something that the government's paying for
as part of your insurance?
I don't know.
It's a good question.
Jamie, do you know?
The one that's held before
you need like a doctor's prescription.
But eventually they're going to have to be able to
eventually it's going to have to be
accessible to everybody. It should be free.
It should be, look, if we're going to spend money
on anything, we should spend money on that.
God damn. The idea that you're going to make
people pay for that. You can't.
Yeah, you can't. This is a thing that's happening
right now. It's almost like Yeah, you can't. This is a thing that's happening right now.
It's almost like there's a lot of dangerous shit that happens when things go into chaos because there's people that take advantage of those moments.
People get rich?
People get rich, but more importantly, laws get passed because people are scared.
And those laws can like be, they could sneak something in where they ban encryption or they sneak something
in where they stop digital currencies that aren't controlled by certain companies.
They can sneak weird shit in while people are freaking out.
24 hour surveillance because you want to make sure that people don't loot and riot.
Weird shit can happen that can erode your civil liberties when things get chaotic.
Different.
Change.
This is a weird time you know but this is
where we live this is life right now you just gotta accept do you think something like this
had to happen for people to put real family values and what's important in perspective
is do you believe like we talked about it off like and i'm like um I'm a religious person to the extent that I know that it is something that makes people feel good about.
Yeah.
You know, but, you know, but then you have those holy, holy, holy people that celebrate God on one level.
But then when something like this happened, they don't understand that if you believe that God can fix anything, it's going to take you to the promised land.
You got to believe that he had to be part of the narrative of this curse.
I think it's how much responsibility you put on yourself and how much responsibility, even if you believe in God, you put on that.
Like, you got to do some work yourself, too.
Like, even if you believe in God, don't get so fat that you're going to die.
You got to.
Yeah, don't do that.
Don't let yourself do that.
Start drinking water.
Just exercise.
Stop eating as much sugar.
You can do it. Don't let yourself do that. Start drinking water. Just exercise. Stop eating as much sugar. You can do it.
Joe, I tell motherfuckers all the fucking time, you got to fucking help God.
Help him.
You got to help him.
You can't just be like, oh, shit, God, I hope I don't get diabetes.
Let me get the cotton candy.
Let me get the extra sweet tea.
Let me get the funnel cake.
You can't do that.
Right.
You're right. You can't do that. Right. You're right.
You can't.
Shouldn't.
If you do, you're doing a disservice to the gift of life.
You know how many people out there in wheelchairs?
They're born with horrible, debilitating diseases.
They can't do shit.
People that have been in accidents, people that have been blown up in war, they can't even move around.
And here you are taking a perfectly good body and just dumping bullshit into it while it just
explodes and i understand that people get addicted to things you get addicted to that feeling of the
rush of eating but you got to get yourself off of it you know figure out a way to live your life
better it can be done other people have done it you can do it too the idea that you can't do it
is stupid you know uh you just gave me a thought and the reason why sometimes I interrupt
because I know I got ADD, right?
And if I don't get my thought out in that second,
I'll fucking forget about it. I get it.
You're just sensitive to
interrupting now after the original podcast.
No, I'm not sensitive. I'm sensitive to
your fucking fans because them niggas is
nasty to me, son.
No, not in a bad way.
People love you. you yeah they love me
but they gotta
get to know me
listen man
I knew you were
gonna be you
and I
I really enjoyed
meeting RZA
he's a fascinating dude
I have a lot of
respect for him
he's a genius
he's a really
interesting guy
but it was funny
to watch
no the funniest thing
I'm gonna tell you
the funniest thing
about it
and I haven't said this
I was like this
I'm gonna do Rogan people are like what you gonna talk about I was like nigga I'm just gonna tell you the funniest thing. I'm going to tell you the funny thing about it. And I haven't said this. I was like this. I'm going to do Rogan.
People are like, what are you going to talk about?
I was like, nigga, I'm just going to talk about.
I just felt like we had so much to talk about, right?
Yeah.
And I don't feel like I owe anybody an apology or anything.
But I would like to give an explanation.
Please don't.
You're great.
You're just being you.
They hated me though, Joe.
Don't, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Joe, that's easy for you to say.
They fucking hated me, Joe.
That's incorrect.
Joe, they fucking hated me, Joe.
Don't try to tone it down.
The people that commented that you read hate you.
You can't say they hated you.
There's so many people.
I don't give a fuck about the people that love me.
Nobody cares about that person.
Already got them in the bag, bro.
I don't give a fuck.
I love you.
Fuck you.
Who's an asshole?
You know, it was.
You can never get to a zero point.
You can never get to a no haters point.
It doesn't exist.
It doesn't exist.
I just need to break it down just a little bit.
Listen, because you said they weren't mad at you.
This is how.
Some of them were mad.
A lot of them were mad.
You're reading too many of the comments.
And you did when we left.
And this was before COVID-19, when we would embrace,
when I see you, I hug.
And the funny, the irony of that interview was at the end of it,
you and I were feeling good about it.
I loved it.
Yo, I loved it.
Listen, bro, I loved it like a motherfucker.
So I damn near tongue kissed you. Pause. No Charlamagne. No Charlamagne. Yo, you loved it. Listen, bro. I loved it like a motherfucker. So I damn near tongue kissed you.
Pause.
No Charlamagne.
No Charlamagne.
Yo, you embraced me because you said, I remember what you said.
You said at the end of it, because that's when RZA did the freestyle or whatever at the end.
And you said, and hearing you say this means a lot.
You said that might be one of the greatest outros in podcast history.
100%.
Coming from a motherfucker that's 1,200 plus.
You just seen it all, right?
And I was like, you right.
And we hugged.
And I do remember you telling me this, too.
Don't read the comments, right?
I'm hard-headed, son.
I'm hard-headed, son.
Ride or die.
And I'm looking at you like, what the fuck do you mean, Joe?
The streets love me.
Man, I had a good run. And I just read. Listen, let me tell you like, what the fuck do you mean, Joe? The streets love me. Man, I had a good run.
And I just read, listen, let me tell
you something, Joe. You said don't read the comments.
I know this might be excessive,
but I think I only read
2,782.
Oh my God. And it was nice, it was nice.
And then they started using words
that only the vocabulary
of a real podcaster, cringe.
Like what words? The word real podcaster, cringe.
Like what words? The word cringe.
Oh, cringe.
Just straight cringe.
Like I need a little bit more information.
What the fuck is your definition of cringe?
They was like cringe.
Motherfuckers said, and this is the real assholes,
they didn't want anybody to get to know me or anything.
They was telling people exactly where on the timeline
to find the disgust
they had. They'd be like, I almost
fucking killed myself at
1738. Okay,
can a motherfucker get 16 minutes
before we get there?
I'm telling you, you can't pay attention to that.
You just gotta be you.
You're great.
Joe, Joe, Joe.
That's easy for you to say, Joe.
Yo, how many years did it take you to just be you and comfortable like this?
And the reason why I'm saying that, when you first started, right, and the birth of my podcast was because of that.
When you first started, I know as calm as your demeanor is right now and as comfortable, and I may be wrong, as comfortable of saying, fuck them, don't worry about
them, I know that could not have been
your beginning.
You had to have had,
and I may be wrong, you had to
like, okay, why did that person say that?
What do they mean by that? Donnell, I think I have brain
damage. From what? From getting hit
in the head. And I don't think I worry about the
same things that people worry about.
Right. You're absolutely right. that's a real possibility right you know me that might be real right there
might be something going on there but it's also um i saw your whole career money and then i just
wanted to do stand up and i was free okay so you had see you had a'm not a... I don't buy a lot of shit. I don't go crazy.
I like cars.
That's my only addiction.
Right.
But I'm not...
When I did something like Fear Factor and making some money, it gave me this freedom
to now just not worry about ever doing that again.
But you always have been of that mindset.
Yeah, but it reinforced it.
Things like that reinforce it.
Like having savings in the bank is
nice but also doing what you want to do is nice too one of the things that i learned from fear
factor i don't want to do that anymore right i don't want to do that kind of stuff anymore
you know what i don't want to be premature of it but uh i can see you my podcast mentor, you know what I'm saying? But not being into it too early.
But you made me feel that type of confidence in terms of controlling your own destiny,
being in control of your own shit, and this is what you want to do.
Because I've talked to you about the podcast.
Every time I get an idea, I hear you.
I'm like, what do you think about this?
It's a TV show. And you told me, like, I was excited about you about the podcast. Every time I get an idea, I hear you. I'm like, what do you think about this? It's a TV show.
And you told me, like, I was excited about this idea.
And you were like, the podcast, bro.
You control it.
It's your show.
You're you, right?
Right.
Like, you're you at your best when you're just having fun being you.
And no one's going to allow you to do that.
These producers are going to get greasy.
They're going to get their greasy hands on you,
and they're going to try to do this or get you to wear that or These producers are going to get greasy. They're going to get their greasy hands on you and they're going to try to do this
or get you to wear that or don't talk
about this. Donnell, if you could just lay
back here and just let... There's a bunch of
people directing you. You're not going to get to who
you really are. You've got to do it by yourself.
And also... Where'd you find that? I don't mean to try
to interview you in your own show, but where did you...
When did you feel that? I just knew
that. Because I saw a Tom Green interview you
did. Yeah. And this was like... I don't know if this was considered the birth because this wasn't the technology, the whole thing.
And you were like breaking it.
It was weird for me to hear you breaking down the future of it to somebody that was actually doing it.
And you said, you said, you got to figure out, this is important, how do you make money off of it?
How do you make money off of it?
Yeah.
But you also got to keep it the way it is where no one was fucking with it.
When I went to Tom Green's house, he just had these wires.
Like, this is 2007, so it wasn't as sophisticated back then.
And when I realized that timeline, I'm like, what the fuck?
They going live?
How the fuck?
He was live.
That was dial-up.
Not only was it, no, people had cable and they had ISDN lines.
In 2007, it was like, a lot of people had cable.
It wasn't near the bandwidth that you got now
but he had all the servers
and everything in his house.
He had this dope house
in the hills and he had turned
this house into a TV studio. His living room
wasn't a living room anymore. It had a desk
it had monitors behind it
and all this was like these big fat fucking
cables. So that was the show after Canada?
The Canadian show?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He did this all on his own.
And I had actually met with the company.
I met them at the Denver Comedy Works and talked to them a little bit about doing something similar.
But I was like, my thought was like, as soon as you start doing it with a company, now you're doing the same thing again.
You don't want them to say, don't want you to say this.
You're just doing it online. You're just doing it online.
There's different kinds of people,
and it's not a value judgment,
but there's different kinds of people.
There's wild creative people,
and then there's studio executives.
Studio executives are the people that have to look
at these wild creative people and go,
how do I make sure that Donald doesn't go crazy?
I'm gonna put him on this show.
That's why I'm not on a regular TV show.
He says he gets too wild.
We got to bring him down.
He said son too much.
We got to keep him on.
The commercials have to come in seven minutes.
He has to be ready to make that break.
And they'll say, look, we've got numbers, Donnell, that shows when you start talking
about this, people get upset and they tune off.
But if you just talk about this, we're better.
So we've written you some talking points
and they'll bring you some shit. Look, we're not writing
for you. We're just giving you some stuff to play with.
And you're like, what the fuck is this? But I do need the money.
And then you have to have a meeting and Debbie's
going to pull you into the office and go, Donnell, I just don't think
you respect me. Okay, we have to work together.
I'm your executive producer.
I'm here to put this show together. You have to work
with me. And I don't want want to I would love to work with you
But I don't want to because you don't respect the fact that I that you don't respect what I'm doing so how the fuck do
You get to respect the wild creative people it doesn't always work out like sometimes
They don't it doesn't pan out a podcast doesn't panel or a TV
She doesn't pan out, but at least they have a chance.
Like you can't have a podcast like yours.
Yours is a perfect example.
You're just you.
Cause you just, a lot of it is just you ranting
into the camera about shit.
You can't, no one would ever let you do it that way
and let it build an organic audience.
And that's why and that's why when
you were trying to tell me the beauty of it I wasn't understanding another reason
I wanted and say I was like all right motherfucker window the money kicking you
know I'm saying like I understand that you was like yeah Donnell is gonna be
one I was like this all right what number do I hit when I start genuinely
they'd say it's like when you start getting i think it's like a hundred
thousand downloads right that's when uh advertisers become interested in you because that's legitimate
that's a hundred thousand people and as long as you pick your products carefully i definitely
i'm good man right now i'm coming dick pills mine was the fleshlight was the first one flashlight
fleshlight what's the fleshlight the fleshlight is a fake pussy that comes and looks like a fleshlight.
Are they still in business?
Oh, yeah, they're still in business.
Yo, the Don Air Roller Show.
And I want y'all to pay me for that one right now.
Let's do some fucking business.
They'll do some business with you, I bet.
If they still do podcasts.
Do they do anymore?
Well, that's how I met my friend Aubrey when we started on it together.
He was running this rubber pussy business.
Yo, you got to get it.
I'm going to tell you, the corona had you wanting to sell anything.
Because I'm going to tell you, and I agree with what you said, and I wasn't concerned.
I wasn't thinking about when am I going to make the money off the podcast.
First thing I was thinking about, can I do a good podcast?
You told me the most important thing is the consistency of it.
Yes.
You got to get the reps in. You know, motherfucker,
you've got a good podcast and don't come out
for another five weeks. You've got to make people look forward
to it. So if you do it every week, once a week,
twice a week, whatever you're doing, then people
are like, there's a bunch of podcasts that I subscribe to
that come out on Monday. I look forward to
Monday. I look forward to checking my phone. All right,
a new episode. I'm in it
as a fan as much as I'm in it as
someone who does it. Yeah, I mean, you pushed you push me on you talk shit to me you you didn't people
think you inspire me you was talking shit to me and I was trying to motivate
you I knew it I was like man if I see this good I like if I see this
motherfucker one time in a comedy store and he cracks this motherfucking neck
and look me in my face and say, what the fuck are you doing?
I was like, I was like this.
I had that shut up factor. But going
to it. But I knew I was right. I knew I was like
Donnell, what the fuck are you doing? I knew you was right, but I was
scared, son. I know, but look, it worked.
It worked. Yay. And I was scared.
It's moving.
But, you know, and I feel
Look at you. You even have your own mask.
That's my son's hair right there son
oh Jesus
that's my son
and just speaking of that
show us
show everybody your mask though
the mask is hilarious
oh yeah yeah yeah
this is the Donnell Rawlings show
COVID mask
oh we got merchandise
for y'all punk motherfuckers now
this is the
what does it say on it
hold on wait a minute
wait a minute
what does it say
it says
it says
hold on
it says the Donnell Rawlings show
on one side what is that what side right the other says the Donnell Rawlings show on one side.
What is that?
What side?
Right.
The other side.
Donnell Rawlings show.
And the other side says, not today, Corona.
Not today, Corona.
It won't happen today.
And if you see, yo, look, all right, I'm going to tell you a secret.
What did you say?
Yo, I'm going to tell you what happened.
This is a tough time for everybody.
Nobody wanted to take their hat off, right?
And, yo, I've been feeling it, right?
And I was like, well, never act in Hollywood again if I do this, right?
So I started going.
You'll see.
I ain't embarrassed.
I got the motherfucking sunroof.
Dude, I got a sunroof.
No, I got a sunroof.
Sunroof.
Look at this, man.
This is a sunroof.
Yo, but your sunroof would make you $50 million a year.
This is not the same roof. You know what I'm saying? This is a hooproof. Yo, but your sunroof would make you $50 million a year. This is not the same roof.
You know what I'm saying?
This is a hoopty roof right here.
So I cut my son's hair, right?
And I was like, oh, shit, what can I do, right?
He saw his hair.
He was like, oh.
So I said, I'm going to fuck around.
I'll take it to the show.
And I'm going to get a glue stick and put it on my head just for fun.
He thought it would be funny.
And I showed him this podcast the other day, and he got excited about it.
But the thing I like about me having that hair, it smells like him.
So it's like a little souvenir.
And right there, you know what?
Joe, I don't want to feel like I'm CVS or anything right now.
But I want to say, we all know when it comes to corona,
there's certain things that go before you know if you have corona
or you kind of feel it.
Your sense of smell and your sense of taste. That's why, joe you're not going to believe this right i came up i came up with a one
of a kind this is a specific to me it's the donna rawlings show okay now i don't know if you're
familiar with a smell called black ice black ice do you know what black ice is no you don't know
what black ice is i don't know i wouldn't lie to you no you don't really you know what black ice is? No. You don't know what black ice is? I don't know.
I wouldn't lie to you.
No, you don't really know what the black ice air freshener is.
I don't think so.
Do you know what it is?
You don't know.
Okay.
I bet you'll know this.
I mean, I've all done air freshener.
For a car?
All right.
You know this one. You know the Royal Pine air freshener, right?
Yeah, those little trees.
That's the white one.
You know the Royal Pine air freshener, right? Yeah, those little trees.
That's the white one.
You racist motherfuckers.
Yo, is there another color?
Let me just tell you right off the bat.
Oh, my God.
Listen, I'm a car freak.
I hate air fresheners.
Right, I get you.
I don't like them.
I want to smell car.
I want to smell gasoline and
leather and carpet. It's not about your car.
You've not been into
a Cadillac, a black-owned
Cadillac. You've never had a ride
with Snoop Dogg or any of the hip-hop dudes, right?
No. That's right.
In the black culture, black ice, it's just the smell.
You always have to have it in your car?
If you want to get some pussy back in the day, you know what I'm saying?
Your car had to smell right.
Yo, Joe, I'm not brushing.
There it is.
Oh, my God.
It's a tree, though.
Yeah, it's a tree.
It's the same thing.
It's the same shit?
It's the same thing as a white man's air freshener.
It's the same shape?
It's the black glass matter of air fresheners, Joe.
It is hilarious, though.
They pretend. Look, it's like a tree made of air fresheners, Joe. It is hilarious, though. They pretend. Look,
it's like a tree made out of chemicals.
But Joe. Oh, it's like the woods.
Joe, I don't want to distract, but getting
back to the candle.
This is the Donny Rolls candle, right?
You got a candle? Let me see that shit.
Check it out. And one of my
Whitney Cummings has one.
Angela Yee had one.
Check it out. Tell me what you think.
Oh, that smells good.
Jamie?
So you know what?
Now let me smell it.
See, that's another thing.
This candle helps you during corona.
Like you burn that candle, and the minute you don't smell it,
nigga, go get a test.
But more importantly, Joe, more importantly, Joe,
could you read the description?
Could you read the description and the ingredients in it?
This shit back here?
Yes, sir.
I've got to get my glasses.
Get your glasses, man.
I have it on the screen if you can get that better.
Oh, yeah, much better.
Here we go.
From Marcy Projects to Hollywood, Donnell captured six true smells oils going from ashy to classy.
oils going from ashy to classy breathe in the memories of cold air hitting your skin on a winter's day shades of your skin getting ashier and ashier as the
brisk wind hit your arms and ankles capture the energy of a good lotion
without having it black ash eliminates the smell of twerk and replaces it with
his exotic smells.
The ingredients, Joe.
I don't know the first one.
What is that?
Bergamot.
Bergamot.
What is that?
I don't know what that is.
Do you know what that is, Jamie?
Bergamot.
Sandalwood.
I've heard of that.
Musk.
Elon.
Lavender.
Jasmine.
And ambergris.
Ambergris?
Ambergris.
Ambergris. Do you know what that is? Okay, ambergris. Ambergris? Ambergris. Ambergris.
Do you know what that is?
Okay, ambergris.
This is where, because I have a really professional person that does these candles, right?
Ambergris.
And I was talking to somebody that's really a health nut into raw stuff.
Ambergris.
This is what I heard ambergris was at first.
It was sperm from a whale.
I knew you was going to get excited about this.
Even when I thought about it, this is what I heard first. It was sperm from a whale that they knew you was going to get excited about this. Even when I thought about it,
this is what I heard first.
It was sperm from a whale that they mined for, right?
But come to find out, it wasn't,
I thought it was, I was like, oh shit,
my candle got a whale nut, right?
But it's not that,
it's the byproduct of an actual sperm whale.
Do you know when you see red holes? But no cruelty, no cruelty.
No cruelty.
That's the most important.
How'd they get the load out of the whale
without being cruel? See, that's when the story started
to... That's when the story
got flaky, you know what I mean? I needed to
know more. I was like, who was jerking the whale?
60,000...
You fucking pop-up ads, you son
of a bitch.
What is it?
Oh, you have to give them an email?
Oh, shut up. I know you got somewhere else on it.
What I was going to say is that Red Bull, we found out that Red Bull's made with taurine
and the original source of taurine, they used to get it from bull testicles.
Really?
Bullnuts, yeah.
Like Hitler apparently was into taurine.
Bullnuts?
Yeah, it's like some form of testosterone or something or some form of stimulant.
Why anything that has something to do with sperm, it feels like it's supposed to give you super strength or something.
People are silly.
Amber Griss, how to tell if you've struck gold with the whale vomit or stumbled upon sewage.
Oh, so sometimes they find it, like, floating around.
Yeah.
Oh.
Is it loads or is it puke?
I thought it was sperm, so I i was like who the fuck is swimming
through oh my god look at that shit it it can be up to 71 000 for a 1.57 kilogram lump that's like
three three and a half pounds right something like that and it's saliva what is the whale what
what is it the whale it said whale vomit so it's like truffle. Yes, look, I knew it.
I knew it was compared to fucking
truffles.
My candle got truffle-ish
type fucking ambergris. It's a product
of the sperm whale. That's what it is.
Scroll back up a little bit there, Jamie. And it's
no cruelty. Nobody beat the shit out of the whale.
It's not whale sperm. It's a product of
the sperm whale.
Only a sperm whale makes the compound responsible for ambergris allure.
It's called ambrine.
And different organisms biosynthesize different compounds such as caffeine, maybe a cocoa, coffee, or tea plants.
Ambrine is made by sperm whales only to glue together squid beaks.
What the fuck?
So what you saying now, Joe, is my candle is baller as shit, man.
But listen to the rest of it.
Listen to the rest of it.
Squid is the main diet of sperm whales, but the beaks can't be digested.
They need to be passed out without causing injury,
and they do this by coating them with ambrine.
So the sperm whale creates this amazing shit just to dissolve beaks of squids.
Goddamn nature's amazing. Or to be in of squids. Goddamn nature's amazing.
Or to be in my fucking candle.
Goddamn nature's amazing.
And to be in my fucking candle and to say all that off my black ash.
But the thing is, it's some quality shit in there, Joe.
And the thing about it was, I was going to launch this before the corona shit hit.
But I had to ask myself,
this is what put things in perspective for me.
I'm a road rat, you know I'm a road dog.
When you're a road dog, you start feeling,
you look at your calendar, a comedian,
you look at your calendar and see your calendar,
you're like, I'm good.
And the rhythm of my calendar, before this shit popped,
I was rocking with Martin.
We had fucking dates coming on.
You know what I'm saying?
I had some good shit.
Yeah, I was looking forward to Nashville and New Orleans.
We were going to have fun.
Nashville, New Orleans.
I had one time where I was supposed to do you.
This was going to be my weekend.
It was you and Dave on a Friday and then Martin Lawrence the next day.
Jesus.
As they say in the streets, God was good as a motherfucker.
The last show I did before these mandates came in,
it was at the Milwaukee Theater.
Yeah, I've been there.
The Pabst Theater.
So you've been down in that green room downstairs, right?
Incredible.
That was the last time I was on stage.
Do you remember what weekend that was?
Is that the 14th?
Or was it the weekend before that?
It was like a couple of weekends
where people were still,
I remember Post Malone had a big show.
It was right when it was about to pop.
It was like,
you know,
the reason why,
because seeing the Days Road guy,
whatever,
every like,
when we were on the road,
every day was a different news report.
You know what I'm saying?
It was right when it was going down,
Joe.
it was like,
it was accelerating.
Yeah,
it was,
everybody was like, oh, fucking, this is what we was hearing.
The NBA, baseball.
And we was like this.
We good.
We telling jokes.
Bow, bow, bow.
And the next thing you know, the shit was shut down.
But I said, I was like, hold up, motherfucker.
You are really unemployed right now.
hold up, motherfucker, you are really unemployed right now.
And when I say that, my flow of income is road.
And I'm like, what do you do?
You got savings and shit, but you still,
nobody wants to just see money going out and no money coming in.
And then I was like, I was happy.
I always thank you, but I was happy because you got me out the gate,
so the momentum is there.
And I needed to put the focus in on it. I was forced to put the focus in it, but I put the focus on it.
And I said to myself, as all these comedians bitching what I'm going to do,
I'm like, you got three months to figure out what your rhythm is going to be and what you're going to do.
You can wait for this shit, whatever you consider to be over.
You can wait for it's over and then like start now or you can start now and the only reason I'm saying like did the candle
Think it was gonna be a novelty thing whatever but I was like this candle is gonna gonna train me on
What it takes to come up with an idea?
Market it get people excited about it provide a quality product and see what the feedback is
You know, so I know it may seem like so simple to people people excited about it, provide a quality product, and see what the feedback is.
I know it may seem so simple to people, but
I've always had an entrepreneur
spirit, but never was forced
to really engage it.
Yeah, well you only have so
much time, right? That's it. When you're doing stand-up
constantly and you're always on the road,
there's only so much time to do other things.
The worry is that if you do try to do other things, those things will take time
away from your stand up.
That's what every comic worries about.
But I was a road rat.
Yeah.
So, and I talked to you before it started, somebody said, every time I do an interview,
the first thing people are like, oh, it must be, because we're on the stage, you and I
are, we do this shit.
You know what I'm saying?
We don't just, okay, I got an arena tour coming up.
All right, I'm going to take two weeks.
You imagine how terrifying that would be?
Yo, I'm going to tape, look, I'm going to tape an hour special.
I got one week to prepare for it, and you see it.
It's reflective of the show.
We're not deaf people.
No.
We straight up, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, you know, you probably not so.
You do clubs anymore?
I do all the clubs.
Do you go out and hit like a comedy club?
Yeah, I still do.
I like to.
I like to do comedy works in Denver.
So you know what those reps, those reps are. That's what,
that,
and now you,
like,
for that person,
it's just like,
everything we express,
and we,
it's part of what we do,
because it's somewhat about therapy.
You know what I'm saying?
You're angry at something,
let me go fucking talk about it.
You're happy about something,
let me go fucking talk about it.
You know?
Like,
so,
people like that,
when it's time,
when it's time to put up,
you, you fucking ready to do it.
You know what I mean?
You're working out.
Yeah, you have to.
We've all tried stand-up different ways.
You know, there's been comedians since the beginning of stand-up trying it different ways.
And pretty much everybody agrees.
You got to do it constantly.
And I always lose my thought.
And this is where I start to interrupt. But the question that I had to bring my back, and I'm learning to be better at this, is
people always ask me on these interviews, they say, oh, and this was a follow up on
us, how we love performing.
They say, oh man, it's gotta be fucking killing you to not be able to get on stage. and if if I didn't have my son like the thing now is I'm replacing stage time
with dead time and it doesn't affect me as much you know I'm saying it doesn't
like oh I got to get out because the time I was like okay I got to do three
spots tonight I'm watching on world with my son I'm building a goddamn fucking a
fake candy machine out of cardboard.
So the transition for me hasn't been that tough
because I just put that energy somewhere else.
And it's been amazing.
My son's four years old, Joe.
This is the longest stretch of time I've spent with him since he was born.
And not because I'm a neglectful dad or anything,
because you got shows.
And it put things in perspective because at one point when I was like I can't miss this
show fuck that you gotta go get the money got to get the money now that I'm
getting this time my son going back out or whatever I'm like this you know what
maybe I just should start considering counseling that weekend you know could
do things around here, too.
That's what I'm doing.
I've been thinking a lot about that, about almost like doing like an L.A. residency.
Like find a place that's like a 500-seat theater or something like that. But this is the beauty of COVID.
If there's anything, it makes you think on a different level.
What makes you think that this is really temporary?
Just because it's always been there doesn't mean it will always be there.
What do you mean? The virus?
Anything. Whatever life is.
The way our society is structured,
this is new.
The cities themselves are new.
They've only been around here for a few hundred years.
All my friends think
the world started in the 60s.
Whatever it is, whatever the date is,
we all know
that the world used to be very different.
We just assume that the way it is now is the way it's going to stay.
That's not a good assumption because it's all volatile and changes constantly.
And there's natural disasters that are way scarier than this virus.
There's things like asteroid impacts that are inevitable.
There's things like super volcanoes, which are inevitable.
They're going to happen, whether they happen 100,000 years from now or 100 days from now, somewhere in the world,
a giant volcano is going to explode and it's going to turn the whole fucking planet into
nuclear winter.
And a lot of that shit is going to die.
It's going to cloud out the sun, it's going to cool the temperature of the planet, and
it's going to do it for years.
And a lot of fucking things are going to die.
That's happened a ton of times.
I mean, this, what we're having right now is- But people are conditioned to it because they went through it.
We never went through anything like this.
But this is why we're going through something that is the good, if there's anything that's
good about going through something is that you're forced to realize that something can
happen.
Something real can happen that shuts the world's economy down and no one saw it coming.
Something real, that's a real thing.
But we really haven't had, in America, we really haven't had that test.
No, but this is for the whole world though.
This is like a planetary test.
And the good thing about that is you get to see how different people try it, different
people have different strategies they have to deal with their public and their healthcare.
And it's very different results all over the planet.
And they're going to analyze all that shit
and try to find out why Germany did so well
and Italy did so bad and this and that.
And they're going to try to put all this stuff together.
It's a terrible time for the people that are affected
and the people that get sick.
It's not a good thing.
But people can get something good out of it.
You can get something good out of a bad thing.
And the good thing is to prepare yourself better.
I agree with you 100%.
But do you think this,
because when you talk about it,
you're the only motherfucker I would know
that would know more than 10 viruses.
Most motherfuckers I grew up with only know one virus.
You know all the viruses.
Do you think,
and when they start-
I don't know all the viruses.
You know more viruses than me.
I just know those numbers. I barely know what I'm talking about.
It sounds good because I'm repeating shit.
But you read off them 10-syllable words like you know all the motherfucking viruses, motherfucker.
You didn't even have to clap it out.
But this is what they say about the virus, too.
This is what they say about the virus, too, Joe.
They say it's a bitch-ass virus.
Yeah.
For some people.
For some people. Do you think, and I've heard that, well, you think it'll be flattening more when it starts getting really, really hot?
I don't know.
Because I heard it doesn't survive, like, 85 degree or 90 degree temperature.
This is what I read somewhere, that it doesn't, the likelihood of it living out of your body is a lot shorter.
I don't know if that's true.
But I do know that for whatever reason, there are seasons, right, where people get colds.
I mean, it kind of makes sense.
Things wouldn't be on surfaces as long.
That's why you hear somebody have a cold in the summer.
You're like, whoa.
You okay?
Because those viruses, them flu viruses and them coronavirus,
that's like some cold shit.
Yeah, I don't know enough to comment on that,
but I do know that they're worried there's going to be a second wave.
They're worried there's going to be a first wave
and then people are going to relax and then there's going to be a second wave.
It'll be a second wave
if people build too much
confidence. It's definitely going to be a second wave.
What's weird to me is how some people get it
and it's nothing. They don't even
they just go, oh, I had a cough for a
couple days. I can't believe I had that.
A person close to mine that works in my camp
I won't say his name or whatever, right?
A person goes, this motherfucker had Corona
light.
Yo, I know this. I try to be funny
but it's the truth. This motherfucker said
I talked to him. He said
he had Corona. I was like, oh, nigga, you got corona.
I was all fucked up, right?
I was like, oh, shit.
Like all this shit, right?
And then the motherfucker said he was home like three days later.
I'm like, what fucking type of corona you got?
So he's at the hospital for three days?
Yeah, he was in the hospital for three days.
Listen, if you're in the hospital for three days, it means you got it bad.
Michael, Michael motherfucking.
Michael Yo.
Michael Yo.
for three days it means you got it bad
Michael
Michael motherfucking
Michael Yo
Michael Yo
and the weird thing about
the Michael Yo
joint
cause like
I love Michael Yo
I love that dude
he's such a great dude
he's a great guy
yo Joe
he's such a great guy
so I was up
I'm up early every morning
4, 4, 30
I'm up early right
and certain people are up
like 5 o'clock hit
I posted something
and Yo
liked it
which is okay, normal of him
and then he commented, I was like oh motherfucker you up
right, I'm like you wanna comment
you up, you can like in your sleep
right, but to comment
you can just automatically
like oh pa, how many
I owe this motherfucker, like blah blah blah
comment is like okay, put the glasses on
right, so this is when I was of the notion
I was like, motherfuckers this shit that's so fucked up about this pandemic is that motherfuckers are afraid to die.
And then I said, and this was my mind, I was like, only time motherfuckers really think about living is when they think they're going to die.
That's when someone, when the doctor says, well, how long does he have to live?
Three years.
They're motherfucking going to do everything.
They want to see their parents more they want to fucking do
they bucket list shit you know I'm saying I was like that's is motherfuckers
they afraid to die and you got to know that it's inevitable that's gonna happen
everybody you know so I would just I just wanted to rap when yo so I told
him I said man and I told him this whole shit I said man motherfucker ain't
trying to live and to a motherfucker is um I said, man, and I told him this whole shit. I said, man, motherfucker ain't trying to live until a motherfucker is thinking about dying.
And Michael Yo said, nigga, I almost died, right?
And that moment meant so much to me for so many reasons, Joe, to hear Michael Yo say they were a nigga's son.
I got the same feeling as when Wayne Brady said, is Wayne Brady going to have to smack a bitch?
I was like, my nigga!
Finally!
I was so happy.
I was so happy because Michael, you was one of the most unscathed motherfuckers you know.
Unscathed?
See, like, Michael, your name should have been Preston or something like that, right?
And then he told me what his situation was or whatever.
And he's getting better.
He announced it or whatever. He got getting better. He announced it, whatever, but—
He got it bad.
He got it bad.
He got it real bad.
He was in the hospital, and he legitimately told me he thought he was dead.
To my point, as much as we want to consider it, that's all we hear, the death of it.
The death.
Yeah.
So-and-so died in 24 hours.
But the thing about Michael Yeo you have to really consider is that he's healthy.
He's young.
He's robust. Like. He's robust.
Like, he's a guy who works out a lot, does a lot of lifting weights.
100%.
When you hear that he got it and almost died, you're like, oh, well, this is a different thing.
I'm thinking we're talking so much about obesity.
I think he fried chicken, too.
Nah, yo, yo, don't let him twist you up.
That nigga ain't no health, health, health nut like that.
Nah, just what I'm saying.
Michael Yeo got it all 50-50, nigga.
You getting in touch with your black side or your Asian side?
Which side did Michael Yo have corona in?
Was it the black side of his family?
He's thin and he works out a lot.
He's not overweight at all and he lifts weights a lot.
We talked about on the podcast, he goes to this weightlifting gym.
What was that place he goes to?
It's just all weightlifting. Yeah, I know that. I know what you he goes to? It's like some, it's just all weightlifting.
Yeah,
I know that.
I know what you're talking about.
It's like they have classes.
And he's a healthy guy
and that's why when I say,
the point I'm making is like,
you know,
it's not like,
this may sound crazy,
like when you,
back in the day,
when you heard about AIDS,
you didn't hear,
when it first popped,
nobody survived that shit.
It's true.
Nobody.
It was like, you get AIDS, nigga, for months.
It's a wrap.
And everybody thought they had it.
And everybody thought they had it.
But the reason why, and it took some time.
It doesn't have a cure, but people are living with it.
When did you get tested?
When did you get tested?
About four years ago.
It's scary.
The first time you got tested for AIDS?
No, no, the first time.
The first time you got tested for AIDS? No, the first time was like...
I got tested for an insurance thing that I had to do for health insurance in like 92.
92-ish, and I was so terrified.
Just a slideshow of all the terrible decisions I've made.
The corona joint.
But the point I was making, when that first hit, motherfuckers was like, people didn't really take it as serious because they just thought it was associated with a certain lifestyle.
Well, originally we thought anybody could get it.
That's what they were really worried.
They were worried that, I mean, this was, remember, when did they even start calling it HIV?
Like in the beginning they were just calling it AIDS, right? Right. People were worried about, and you know, I think before that they even called calling it HIV? Like in the beginning, they were just calling it AIDS, right?
Right.
People worried about, and you know,
I think before that they'd even called it the gay cancer.
Like they were trying to figure out what it was.
It was killing people.
But when I took my first test in 92,
I remember all my friends were going through a similar situation.
Everybody was terrified to take the test.
Right.
Because we were all convinced that it had some incubation period.
Right. That you could have it in your body and you'd be fine for five years six years and boom and it would it would kick in but the point the point i'm making about that is that like um but like you
hearing you hear these stories of people like michael yoke you hear this story about the person
i was talking about earlier you hear people that when you heard they um uh got it whatever that they made it through people are surviving it
you know some people yeah some people yeah yeah but that's what's weird about it man it's killing
some people that are young and apparently there's something called that i never took any consideration
uh called viral load and this is a kind of sperm well there's nothing to do with it what is how exactly to
define viral load so it depends like someone who works as a nurse in an er who deals with a lot of
these patients is much more likely to get it than someone just gets in contact with one person who
has it that's the constant being around yeah the load i mean they're these these poor people that
are working in health care right now they're dealing with this constant environment of sickness.
And a lot of young nurses are dying.
Yeah, that's the young doctors.
That is so fucked up.
And it's so that's interesting because you like, you know, we have the shortage of these masks and everybody's doing masks and stuff.
And one of my friends was like, I need a mask.
I was like, you better get a scarf, do something right.
It was like, no, I need to M94, 3M, so-and-so.
I'm like, if you walk down the street with one of those fucking surgical doctor's masks to go to the fucking store,
you should feel ashamed of yourself because the doctors and nurses are the people that need that stash.
The people that are out there on the front line are the ones that need that stash.
That's true.
But in California, you have to wear those now.
In L.A., you have to wear those when you're out.
Yeah, you have to.
I'm talking about the level.
Like the one I'm talking about is the one that.
Oh, you mean the real filter one.
The real filter one.
And I know that they, like, at first it was all about everybody was like of the notion you got to have this certain mask.
But then they said, you know, you have to cover yourself.
You have to do it.
They won't even let you into certain spots because of it now.
Yeah, yeah.
No, there's a new law in Los Angeles.
In Los Angeles, when you're out, you have to have your face covered.
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Man, that is.
Is that just for going into businesses?
It's a weird precedent to set.
Because now people in the future, like when are you going to tell them they can't cover their face anymore?
This is where it gets weird.
Because before, it was weird.
They're never going to say that.
Hold on.
Before, it was weird if you saw someone with their face covered.
You would get nervous.
If they weren't Asian.
They were trying to rob you.
If they weren't Asian.
Imagine if you were a guy who works at a 24-hour convenience store and everybody's got a fucking face mask.
Do you know how much that guy's tension has sp spiked your anxiety is spiked everyone could potentially rob joe you're not
gonna believe this late night shift you're not gonna believe that's why i got a see-through mask
no
child of motherfuckers you want to get back to really racial profiling all right
but you're right that has to make people. Dude, if you work in a liquor store
and, you know,
like your liquor store
has been robbed
a couple times already.
First off,
if I were,
here's the deal,
liquor store,
anybody that's thinking
about robbing a liquor store,
keep in mind
that I'm almost certain
that every motherfucker
that owned a liquor store
got a shotgun
or a pistol back there. I don't give a fuck, got a shotgun or a pistol back there.
I don't give a fuck. They're going to have
something back there. So you can roll up in there
with your fucking Spiderman mask if you want to.
You're going to get your head split.
That's a crazy job to be in, man.
To put yourself in a situation where every day you go at work
you might have a gun stuck in your face and be
told to empty out the cash register.
Any day. You're living fear of that.
The people coming in might rob you.
I said, I was at, I have a routine.
I don't socialize, but I go out and get coffee, right?
There's a 7-Eleven I go to.
And I know the motherfucking Mexican motherfucker that work in there, right?
And I was outside a car, and there was a black guy in there.
And I could tell the Mexican guy was looking at the black guy.
Next thing you know, and I was about to do a radio interview
for DC, my man Joe Clair, shout out.
And these motherfuckers started rumbling, like fighting,
like going at it, like pop, pop, pop, fuck you, fuck you.
And my instinct was to try to go help or do something.
And for a second I was like, oh, this shit is fucked up, man.
Stop that.
Then I was like, Rona out there, motherfucker.
I'm not getting in.
And finally they stopped.
But it was just weird.
That kind of contact?
Yeah.
Unless you're stopping a man from doing that to a woman or unless you're stopping someone
from hurting someone as much as small as them.
But that guy, this motherfucker worked for 7-Eleven, Joe.
And he's defending whatever.
It might have been a can of spam or whatever the situation is.
Oh, that's what they're fighting over?
I don't know what it was.
I'm pretty sure he's accused the guy of shoplifting.
Oh.
But he put his, especially in his day and age, whatever, in a state where this motherfucker was fighting.
He was fighting for this shit.
Let it go.
Yeah, you got to let it go.
I'm like this motherfucker.
You can have.
Especially because you're just an employee.
Imagine having to fight for a can of Spam.
But that's an employee.
You're just getting paid $5 an hour anyway.
In Hawaii?
What's minimum wage?
What's minimum?
It's like $11.
No, no.
It's over $7.
I have zero idea.
They're trying to make it $15.
I don't even know anybody that's making minimum wage.
I know a few people, I bet.
It's like $11.
I think it's like $11 or $12.
Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, imagine fighting someone like $11 or $12. Yeah?
Yeah.
Yeah, imagine fighting someone
for $11 or $12 an hour.
They will.
Fighting to the death.
If they're Mexican, they will.
Yo.
You can start a new league, bro.
Yo, you can start a Home Depot MMA match.
That's hilarious.
Them dudes will fight mask free.
They don't give a fuck.
That's hilarious. Yeah, but I was just like They don't give a fuck. That's hilarious.
Yeah, but I was just like
this, god damn,
what are you loyal to?
This company?
Or are you loyal to the fact
that you're in there
protecting this 7-Eleven goods
because you're providing
money for your family?
But I would never say that.
He doesn't even have
a fucking security guard.
Like the guy behind
the counter's gotta go
back there and fight him?
And it was just one.
It was one dude.
One dude.
No, he couldn't jump.
They couldn't jump or anything. It was one fucking dude. Can. No, he couldn't jump.
They couldn't jump or anything.
It was one fucking dude.
Imagine being that dude that's in the sketchy area with the late night shift and just sitting there looking out the window, looking at all these people.
You're in there like a little target.
Man, I'm telling you, I would be more fearful of that dude that's in that situation every day than a motherfucker that's coming in here.
Yeah.
Because you know he's played that scenario on his head forever. Probably has
to. Oh, they're going to come in, I'm going to
hit the button and everything.
A lot of people, they catch people slipping
all the time. It's just those videos
that you watch on YouTube and you see someone
get shot or you see someone get robbed, like, man,
this is just a job.
Just a terrible job
and you're getting a gun put in your face.
Think about getting actually robbed.
I used to live in Brooklyn and I used to live in this area called Fort Greene Clinton Hills
and it was right in the beginning of being gentrified.
Spike Lee used to have a house right down the street and I used to do a comedy poetry
night, get a little money from the hat or whatever,
and one night I'm going to the weed spot, right?
I'm like, fuck it, I'm gonna go get some weed.
I go to the weed spot, two motherfuckers roll up on me,
and I knew I was in a gentrified neighborhood
because my hood sensors were down.
I should have never been looking down.
Two motherfuckers roll up on me,
give me your shit, motherfucker.
I'm like, oh shit.
They was like, this motherfucker said,
where the jewelry at? Because I'm not a flashy type of person. He's like, where the jewelry, where the phone at, motherfucker? I was like, oh shit. It was like, this motherfucker said, where the jewelry at? Because I'm not a flashy type
of person. He's like, where the jewelry, where the phone at, motherfucker?
I was like, I don't travel like that. I don't get down
like that. This motherfucker said, oh, you're a broke motherfucker.
You calling me
broke, and you fucking
robbing me.
I'm like, what the
fuck? Somebody didn't raise you right.
That makes no sense. And I was
still going to go to the weed spot because I still had a couple bucks in my pocket, right?
But I was like, it would be just my luck.
I go to the weed spot and the same motherfucker that robbed me is in the goddamn weed spot.
Yeah.
But that shit was like, people, and when it happened to me, I felt fucked up.
I felt so violated because I'm like, you a bitch.
I would respect you more if you mugged me. You're like,
beat me up for my money. But to pull
a gun out and have that advantage and think
you tough, that shit was so fucked up and I felt
so violated. On the inside,
I was thinking
like probably what most
white dudes think. You know what?
I'm going to jump for the gun
like you. I'm thinking probably what you think.
I'm going to disarm them because I know I'm thinking probably what you're thinking. I'm gonna disarm him.
Because I know you got to move if somebody put,
I know you know something.
If somebody put a gun onto you, you'll be like,
and then next thing you know, the gun will be in their face.
I was thinking that shit, but I was like, if I miss.
People have a distorted idea of what they can do,
especially if a guy's got a gun on you.
You have a real distorted idea of how quickly you can move through space.
Like all this person has to do is this.
That's it.
That's the great equalizer.
A little movement like that and a kid can kill you.
And that's the reason why I didn't go with how I felt on the inside.
You have to.
You've got to just give them the money.
It's just, yeah, you're right.
It's a bitch way to do things.
It is.
It's a part of society that most people never use.
Most people never pull a gun on people to get what they want.
But some people do.
It's a real thing.
And it's one of the weakest things someone can do.
It is.
But it also will protect you.
You feel powerless.
But it also can protect you.
On the other side.
On the other side, it can protect you.
You know, I watched a video today of these guys.
Yeah, but they don't doubt that the other side in places that we talk about. On the other side, it can protect you. I watched a video today of these guys that broke into an apartment.
The other side and places that we talk about this for, the other side were places where it's legal.
The only people that have guns for protection, and I'm speaking when I live in New York, was the police.
Legally.
Right, legally.
That's where it gets real crazy, right?
Then it's like California is the opposite california it's not that hard to
get a gun you know people would think that california would be way more liberal than new
york but new york it's very difficult to get a handgun you can get like a personal carry not
just for like if you i know if you're a business you carry a certain amount of money you can get
a gun in california you can get it just by having a clean record yeah you can get it for your home
yeah um nevada has really interesting well well, excuse me, Arizona has real interesting.
Man, I was a motherfucker, picked us up for a show one time.
His shit was out.
Yeah, Arizona, you could have it out.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's an open carry state.
That's an equalizer.
That shuts down road rage.
Arizona, yeah.
That's Arizona, right?
Yeah.
It's the Wild West down there.
I know for sure.
I've seen a guy that was, I had a gig out there.
He was not only our driver,
but he was,
he had his shit right here.
Like Joe Exotic, right?
He's in Oklahoma.
He's always walking around with that.
Yeah, that motherfucker.
They must have an open carry law there too.
That's the funniest shit ever.
But it's so funny.
People connected with different personalities.
And I'm watching this shit like,
like this motherfucker is really crazy.
I was like,
but he's,
he was probably the originator of trolling.
He was a marketing, if you think about it,
he was a marketing genius.
Every time you thought you had him,
he knew how to flip it, but then he got,
like what most trolls do, they go too hard.
He turned into Tekashi69.
It's like, bro, you got enough
followers, bro.
Look at you went too fucking hard.
And that's what it was.
And that lady went and got him.
I guess he was so
used to trying to win
that eventually
he lost by trying
to win so hard.
Carl fucking... And eventually he lost by trying to win so hard. Well, he was just great.
Carl fucking, yo, he was funny.
Carl fucking Baskin.
Yo, he was funny with that shit.
It was hilarious.
It was very, very entertaining.
He obviously had a sick obsession with her, though.
It's cute when you're watching a documentary that doesn't affect you personally. When you're watching seven episodes of this guy shooting a Carole Baskin dummy.
I don't think he had as much obsession with her as he had obsession with fame and people talking about him.
And he knew that she was the right person to keep talking about to give him the fame he wanted.
Maybe.
He knew his boys, everybody around him, that ain't about to give him the fame he wanted. Maybe. I believe he knew his boys, everybody around him,
that ain't going to give him the headlines.
But I think it was also she was going after his business,
saying that she apparently has a different philosophy on how you—
Yeah, what she does is different.
Saving them.
Yeah, and she's not into the cub petting.
Right.
There's a whole cub petting industry, apparently apparently and so that she was reporting them on that and you know his argument was like what the
fuck are you doing like you're doing the same shit yeah they're not they all in cages bitch
yeah they're all in cages right anytime you're putting a big cat in a cage like right doing the
same thing is you're treating it better in the cage so you have a holier-than-thou attitude
it's crazy you know these things should be wild they should be loose in the wild and there should be a
few of them maybe that are if there's a worry about extinction a few of them
that are isolated somewhere but to have it like that it's crazy they probably
had similar um they both had similar personality traits because they gave a
fuck and didn't give a fuck at the same time both of them shared some of that
but her shit came on the most more peaceful side.
His shit was of an aggressive nature.
Yeah, he was ridiculous.
Carol fucking, you want my fucking watch?
But that shit was funny.
I ain't going to lie.
I would like watching him blow shit up, bro.
But look at him walking around with the knee brace on, the guns out, and the fucking permanent
eyeliner.
I mean, he's just, he's right out of a movie, man.
No, when they showed a picture of him with his three husbands,
I was like, this is movie worthy.
And they're both saying they're straight.
Oh, I'm straight.
You know you can do that right now, right, Joe?
You know that right now, right?
Straight guys can have gay sex?
This is what I've heard on the streets.
I ain't going to say what streets.
This is what I'm saying.
I understand that. This is what I heard on some outlets, in certain I'm gonna say what streets that this is what I'm saying I understand that this is what I heard on some outlets right that you can suck a dick twice
No, no, no, it's no three then you would be gay. Okay, you can suck a dick twice
So first is a test second is come. Yeah, I don't know the second was like confirm your test
It's like a double-blind placebo-controlled dick sucking study
It is but it's only two like the same process in the
comedy club two drink minimum like this is what i heard in those streets i don't know those streets
but you could do it they got a new shit called fluid oh gender fluid you go back and forth
gender fluid means like it don't matter sexual orientation fluid or gender fluid would be you're
a boy or a girl you go back and forth from being a boy and a girl yeah and it's like any party you go to you win you know it's like never sausage party not to me chicks you always fucking win
it's all confusing well yeah it is all confusing i don't know do whatever you want do that's all
you can do whatever you want do whatever you want to do just be shouldn't be that big of a deal
it's it's the problem is it's big of a deal for other people like that's that's where it really becomes a
problem right if someone is anything whether they're uh very masculine very feminine very gay
very straight the problem is not what they're doing the problem is how other people think about
what they're doing and whether or not they give them a hard time for it if they think it's wrong
it's not it's not for you to judge if it's wrong or not.
Exactly.
That's where, when it comes to, like, religion, like, why do people focus?
That's a big one that I always get weirded out with about, particularly with Christians.
It's like, why do you care?
Because if you really want to focus on the Bible,
there's so much shit in there that you're not supposed to be doing.
You're not supposed to eat shellfish.
You're not supposed to eat certain types of animals.'re not supposed to wear different two different types of cloth like
if you want to follow the old school they don't nobody wants to follow it to the it's too crazy
you're you but why do they care about the gay part though why is that part like it's a freedom
issue it's very clear that those two guys whether they're gay or straight they wanted to suck joe
exotic's dick okay that's why they were there i don't know they wanted to you hanging around with
tigers they might have maybe they did it because they like tigers so they suck a dick so they can
hang out with tigers right but for whatever reason they decided that doing it was better than not
doing it particularly because both of them could have beat the fuck out of him anytime they wanted
to that one guy was gigantic gigantic. The one young kid.
Like the model-looking dude, right?
That kid was a gorilla.
He was fucking gigantic with huge-ass hands.
I know he's a...
He would have beat the shit out of that dude.
And the other guy would have beat...
The guy with three teeth,
he would have beat the shit out of him, too.
Yeah, all of them would have beat the shit out of him.
They all would have beat the...
So he had three teeth.
Joe's probably was like,
that's what I like,
get right in that gap.
Yo, you ever had a toothless blowjob from a tattooed motherfucker?
You haven't lived.
A tattooed motherfucker with your name tattooed above his dick.
Yeah.
Property of Joe Exotic, right?
Didn't it say something like that?
What did it say?
But all those tiger motherfuckers was freaky in some kind of way.
Everyone that was attached to him.
They were all freaky.
But I feel like it almost doesn't seem real.
The show's so crazy.
It's so crazy that a lot of people feel like it's played out.
Like people talk about it too much.
Yeah, because it was just great.
But the thing about it, when I say marketing or whatever,
he knew everything we do record that shit.
Is that the same guy or is that a different one?
No, they look like they're doing the tattoo.
See what the tattoo is?
That's like Halloween right there.
No, there's another one above his dick that he got covered up with a bull.
There it is right there.
Bingo.
Charlemagne and Goyer right there.
Absolutely.
What does it say?
Privately owned.
Joe Exotic. Privately owned. Yeah.
Joe Exotic.
Privately owned.
Ew.
And look what he turned it into.
Scribbles and a bull.
He can still see the actual.
He decided to not totally cover it.
That's like indicative of his whole life.
Did you see the follow up?
Did you see the follow up they did?
And he was like, he was upset.
He said, yeah, the tattoo artist was a little offended because they didn't give him his property say the tattoo was fucked up
yo the please not the fact that I was blowing his dude like yeah yeah we
didn't like the way that tattoo was tatted well didn't I that's why I got
confused I thought that they were all on meth right didn't at some point but
what didn't that guy say that he hasn't done anything in like four years I think
he said that wasn't from meth or something.
It was from something else.
Okay.
Hey, what it is, what it is.
Yeah, but they was all- Maybe he just got hit by an animal.
That's true, too.
Like a lot of hockey players have no fucking teeth.
But that's a badge of honor for hockey players.
They don't give a fuck.
They like fuck that shit.
They like to take them out and show you.
In Canada, you see a mouth like that, you think he's a millionaire.
In fucking Ohio, it's, that motherfucker's hitting that
meth. Have you ever seen the photograph of
that old school hockey player who has all
these scars all over his face? No, I don't know.
Do you know what I'm talking about, Jamie?
It was a recreation of every
scar this guy had ever had on
his face over his career.
It's a famous photograph.
And you could see these,
I mean, it looks like he's just been in a fucking
box cutter fight. His whole face
is just butchered. Yeah, because all they did was,
look at this guy's face. Yeah, that's
it. And what was it? He was a hockey player.
God damn. Yeah.
He was a goalie before they wore masks.
Bro. That looked like one of them
cosmetic surgery
facilities in fucking LA. Dude, he was a goal cosmetic surgery facilities in fucking L.A.
Dude, he was a goalie before they used fucking masks.
Look at his face.
Damn!
He was just straight-faced?
They would just take it in the mug, son.
Can you imagine a guy slap-sticking one of those fucking hard-ass pucks?
How fast can they make those things go?
Now they can make them go well over 100, 120, 140.
Jesus Christ. What? Oh, my God. Really? I'll check fastest slap shot. Yeah, I think it's even- Can they make those things go now they can make them go well over 120 40?
Oh my god, really I'll check fastest lap shot. Yeah, I think it's even probably faster
Have you seen that video of that dude who does that long drive with the golf club? Do you know I'm talking about?
This is Jack. There's this really jack dude who hits his got He's got this crazy step through Happy Madison or Happy Gilmore type stroke to it.
And he makes the ball fly.
It's like one of those outdoor ranges.
It flies over the back net.
It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my life.
You probably saw a clip of somebody hitting it out at the Top Shot Golf thing.
Yeah, I've seen those before.
But you've seen that one guy who steps sideways.
He steps to it like Happy Gilmore.
He's about to kill it?
It's bonkers how far that thing flies.
I want to find out what that dude's name is. I don't even know anybody.
He was a baseball player, wasn't he?
He holds the, maybe.
He looks like a baseball, he's a big dude.
He looks like a pro baseball player, but he holds thedistance world record for a golf ball drive.
Like, drove it the furthest.
So he holds the record.
Dude, it's the craziest shit I've ever seen in my life.
But I don't follow hockey like that.
I've been to one hockey match.
I was in New York.
I think it was the Rangers played somebody.
I've been to a couple.
They're fun.
It's wild in person.
You know, on TV, there's a lot of things like that.
Stand-up is a good example. There's a lot of things like that. Stand-up is a good example.
There's a lot of things like that.
We see it on TV.
It's like, yeah, it looks good.
But if you're there, you're like, oh, shit.
You watch people skate by and fight by.
Yeah, that's what the interest for me.
And then, you know, I'm black.
You go to a hockey match.
You're like, you just want to see a fight.
You're like, this one is shit.
You don't even know who's playing or who.
You're like, oh, shit, he just fucked him up.
Dudes know how to fight now.
There's some hockey fights where you watch guys throw, like, crisp punches, like, with technique. And you're like, oh, shit, he just fucked him up. Dudes know how to fight now. There's some hockey fights where you watch guys throw crisp punches with technique.
You're like, oh, Jesus.
You think they train for that?
Oh, 100%.
100%.
Yeah, you can fight.
It's the only sport where you can fight.
Look, do you practice hitting the puck?
Yeah, okay, we'll practice beating the fuck out of people.
Can you do that too?
That's protection.
That's part of the game.
Part of the game is beating the fuck out of each other.
That's the highlight of the game. It's the craziest game ever the fuck out of each other. That's the highlight of the game.
It's the craziest game ever.
There's no other sport.
Just stop and think about that.
I know.
No other sport where you could fight bare knuckle in the middle of an ice skating rink at a drop of a hat.
Fuck you.
And continue to be friends at the end of that shit.
And the referees all let you do it.
They step back.
Yeah, they never keep talking to, they never like, fuck you, I'm going to see you tomorrow.
It's like, pop, pop, I got it. It's like, bop, bop, I got it.
There's some videos of dudes getting flatlined, though.
It's different than it was back in the day.
Because back in the day, there were tough guys who knew how to skate and could maybe fight a little bit.
And so they'd grab each other's fucking jackets or grab their clothes and they'd be punching each other and slamming, moving all over.
Now dudes are hitting guys with hip
throws and slamming them onto the ice
and knocking them unconscious. I've seen a dude
hit a guy with a perfect
counter right hand. A dude swung
at him, he backed up like this to right there,
let it pass, just hit him.
I'm like, oh, that guy can fight.
That's a guy with real
skills. That's a smart motherfucker.
Yeah, he just stood right in front of the guy.
Let the guy throw a punch, and then boom, countered him.
I couldn't even imagine having that.
You know you might have to fight to balance yourself on skates.
I wonder how you compare that to athleticism.
This guy.
He jacks it.
He didn't even really run up to it.
He's called the swing man.
That's how I go.
What I'm saying, he doesn't run up to it, but he picks his leg up. It's a weird watch his move see that
You go to bunch of videos of him 106 miles an hour for the fastest slap shot that's insane
That's so fast with that puck 106 miles an hour that puck hits you in the face
Somebody can pitch that fast too, right? I don't know what the world record of pitch is. What's the world record pitch?
I'll just chat.
I'm going to guess.
I'm going to guess 111.
Is that ridiculous?
105, yeah.
I'll just chat, man.
Damn.
That's funny.
How do you hit that?
This motherfucker's going to be connected with that shit.
You do not hit it.
You don't hit that, right?
How many times can they throw that fast?
That's the thing.
He can do it a couple times in a row.
I think he burns his arm out pretty fast.
I would imagine.
How could you not burn your arm out?
Think of how much explosion is involved in this.
God damn, that was a blink of an eye.
It's interesting, like the mechanics of when you watch a real amazing pitcher.
There's this crazy body torque going on.
Look at this whip.
There's so much in that, man.
There's, like, there's so much mechanical movement and leverage in your legs and your back.
Is that recent?
I didn't coordinate.
Was that recent?
It was, like, within the last 10 years.
It was about nine years ago.
Did you ever see the video of the bird that's flying by right when the pitch comes at it?
And they caught it in slow motion.
The bird explodes.
That's fucking crazy.
Was it Randy?
Randy Johnson, yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
Oh, yeah, Randy Johnson, the rocket.
He used to tear shit up.
He was exciting.
I don't know.
During his era, people were excited because all on the news.
Watch this.
Watch this.
Damn.
He hit the bird right in mid-flight, and the bird exploded.
Imagine the end for that bird.
You'd be like, how the fuck?
Look at the world has a plan.
Here's your plan, birdie.
Booyah, got shot.
Yeah.
Curled fucking basket.
That bird got leveled, man.
That's fucking crazy.
I mean, that bird got leveled.
No ceremony, no nothing.
No, that bird's dead as fuck.
Can you imagine?
I mean, that dude's throwing 100 miles an hour, right?
Or 90s.
That's the ultimate something-toe-me-not-to-turn right there.
What's that?
Oh, another one?
Oh, no, it just went right by it, I guess.
Oh, wow. Bird got lucky.
I didn't know that happened again.
No, that's the Randy Johnson one. This is a guess. Oh wow, Bird got lucky. I didn't know it happened again.
No, that's the Randy Johnson one.
This is a one minute video of Bird getting hit.
Look at his mechanics. Go back to that video again, the part where Randy Johnson.
Look at the mechanics of how he throws his body into that pitch.
Look at this.
You step off, there's so much. It's like a little coordinated movement.
It didn't matter what city you were in. All that torque and leverage.
He was 6'11".
He was that big?
Yeah, he was big.
Just think about all that leverage, man.
Plus he can reach almost a foot closer, if not more than that, than any other pitcher.
So he's literally releasing it at a closer distance than anybody else.
So less time. That's true. That's a good way to look at it that leverage is leverage is interesting
man you know because it's such a it has such a huge factor in some sports you ever throw a pitch
out no way i embarrass myself i don't want to hurt my shoulder it's just like your ego because they
had one shot of 50 cent throwing the pitch out, and he
looked so gay doing it. It was
funny as shit. I think he probably had that deleted from
the internet. I just saw this yesterday. I don't know why
it was coming around, but it was Bo Jackson throwing
somebody out flat-footed from the outfield.
Sorry, it's not this one, but it's his next one.
Dude, Bo Jackson was
one of the freakiest athletes
of all time. His arm was so crazy.
Everything was crazy.
If he didn't get hurt in that football game, look at this, jumps off the wall so he avoids all the impact.
Literally just ran up the wall.
Yeah, Bo knew everything.
He's a very interesting guy, man.
What was it, baseball, football?
That was just two sports, right?
Played two sports, but world class at both sports.
It wasn't until the football injury that he had to get a hip replacement.
You know, growing up, he was the first person you picked.
Like, I got this motherfucker.
On what sport?
Anything.
Anything and everything.
There's certain dudes that just have the perfect build, the perfect genetics, and then work ethic.
Another one is Herschel Walker.
Like, Herschel Walker
His knees are destroyed now.
How could they not be?
He can barely walk now.
He'll still fuck you up. Herschel Walker
he was fucking people up in
Strikeforce when he was in his late
40s. I was thinking Earl Campbell.
That's the one that's really, really bad.
I don't think Herschel Walker has bad knees.
He was fighting almost until he was 50.
He was fighting in Strikeforce.
A lot of people don't know that.
Yeah, Hershel Walker at 48, 49, whatever he was when he was fighting,
looked like a 30-year-old perfect specimen of an athlete.
He didn't look like an older athlete that's doing something different,
like he's trying to fight.
an older athlete that's doing something different, like trying
to fight. It looks like he's fucking
world class, ripped,
full six pack, super jacked,
still has the same discipline.
What is his age there? What does it say?
I said 48. 48. Look
at the build. Yes!
Dude, look at the build
on this fucking guy. And he destroyed
this dude in Strikeforce. He beat a few
guys. He was undefeated in MMA.
And the way he would beat these guys was just, first of all, he had a long martial arts background.
Like he'd done martial arts before.
I never knew any of this.
But he's got such a crazy disciplined work ethic that like his body is still in pristine
shape in his late 40s.
Now, I don't know if he's taking hormones or anything here.
Either way, the way this guy looked in his 40s and the way he was competing,
it didn't make sense.
Yes, everything about him.
Yeah, that's crazy.
That guy would do push-ups and sit-ups and bodyweight squats and shit over weightlifting.
That was like his big thing was that he did mostly calisthenics
i had no idea that he ever did that dude herschel walker was a that's crazy that's when i say you
know everything that but dude his that's the thing when when he started fighting people were
like oh you know he's like a guy who still wants to compete who used to be world class or something
he probably won't be good at fighting right he's fucking people i mean look at that and when me just looked at it didn't look like it was just
like a show like no no no he looks like a professional mixed martial arts fighter i
wouldn't say he looked like the best in the world right but he was professional and he even went to
one of the best gyms in the world he went to aka aka is in san jose it's one of the best
mixed martial arts cain velasquez dan Daniel Cormier, John Fitch,
Josh Koscheck. We can go
down the list. A lot of great fighters
came out of there. Yeah, it's a
great gym.
And they have been
training world-class fighters forever.
So he went to the Lions Den.
Khamid Nurmagomedov
trained there. Mike Swick trained
there. I mean, it's the Lions's den. He went to the comedy store.
He went to the comedy store. He went to the comedy store.
He went right in there. And he trained there.
Look at that! Look at that build!
Come on, man. Who the fuck looks
like that in their late 40s and does
professional cage fighting
after a long career in the
NFL? I mean, Rishawaka's
something special, man. He was something
special. I had no idea. Oh, my God.
Dude, and I'm telling you, every fight was like this.
Every fight was like a man versus boys.
You watched them all?
You watched the fights?
I watched them all.
Of course you did.
I watch everything.
Yeah, that's a dumb question.
I watch a lot of shit.
I know, like a lot of shit.
Yeah.
You read a lot of audio books, too.
I do.
You read a lot of audio books.
I read a lot of audio books.
That's all I want to say. You read a lot of audiobooks. I read a lot of audiobooks. That's all I want to say.
You read a lot of audiobooks, bro.
I mostly read articles, but I get my books.
I consume my books in audio form because I can do other shit.
Like I can go on a walk.
I can walk my dog and listen to a book.
When I was talking to the person that helped me with the candle,
and I got the fact about the whale shit, I was like,
this motherfucker is going to be all over that shit.
Ambergris, I knew it.
I was like, this is right up his sperm whales.
Isn't it crazy that it's just to dissolve beaks?
That's what, I mean, like pearls, right?
That's just like a coating that an oyster puts over a rock
or something that's inside its mouth.
Isn't that what it is?
It gets irritated and it creates this coating
and puts it over and it becomes
super value to us. How long, but that's
over, well it can't be
a long time because
oysters don't live
for so long. What's the time period
to be able to develop
a fucking pearl?
Let's just guess. This is a total guess.
How long do you think an oyster
stays alive? If you had to guess?
Like, how old does an oyster get?
I'll say 15 years.
Wow.
I was going to say three.
I would love to know the answer to this.
I wonder if they know.
If they're about to be pearled up?
I think they don't know how old sharks get.
Well, it takes two to four years for it to form the pearl.
But they live anywhere from two to 41 years.
41 years for an oyster?
I was the closest, Joe.
Or mollusk.
Joe.
No, I was closest.
No, you said two.
I said two.
It's two.
I'm right.
I said 17.
I said three.
I'm one away.
It says an oyster is 20 years in captivity.
Joe, no, man.
Fuck that.
I won.
I just closer to
life expectancy I'm definitely proud about that I thought it was like like
octopus because octopus is real quick right right? Octopus are real smart, but
I think they have a very short lifespan.
I think octopus is less than 10 years.
I heard they have the brain of a human.
They're fucking clever.
They're clever and they're mean as shit.
And they're smart. Yeah, they're like an evil
alien. That's what they are.
They're in the same family. Mollusks?
Yeah, so that's why it's similar.
Is a crustacean the same as a mollusk?
They're related, so
they're not like the same, same. Is a shellfish
a crustacean? Because a crab is a crustacean,
right? I just like saying big
words. They are all mollusks. I like crustacean.
I say that. I know, I'm like, you just
threw that one. What's that restaurant?
Crab crustacean? That's the only time I use
that word. Oysters are bivalve
in the octop... Whatever, octopus. Is it like a gastropod or a cephalopod? Yeah, I was goingacean. That's the only time I use that word. Oyster's a bivalve in the octopus.
Whatever.
Octopus is like a gastropod or a cephalopod.
Yeah, I was going to say merastro.
A cephalopod.
That's right.
I was going to say cephalopod.
What is the life expectancy of an octopus?
What's a cephalopod?
That's like two to four years, depending on.
Yeah.
We've looked that up before.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah, we have.
Two to four years is nothing for something that's smart.
That's what's so weird.
Imagine you're born.
They're not that smart.
They can't live longer than that.
Motherfucker duck. They don't have any tools. There's no doctors under there. Yeah. That's what's so weird. Imagine you're born. And that's smart. They can't live longer than that. Motherfucker duck.
There's no doctors under there.
They do grow their limbs back. And when
males and females breed, sometimes
the female just decides to kill the male
and eat it. Females are larger.
Habit's quarantine.
That's coming out of quarantine, motherfucker.
If we make this all your limbs, we're
going to eat that shit. A male's octopus, his
dick is also his limbs.
What does it say?
The largest bivalve is the giant clam, which reaches a length of four feet and weighs 500 pounds.
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
Did you know that?
A four-foot clam that weighs 500 pounds?
That's crazy.
That's like the little mermaid lives in there.
Is it part of a menu?
I mean, do people eat it?
We should eat the fuck out of that thing
at least 500 years old it's also the oldest known animal can live to 500 years old two to 500 years
i guess yeah i was the closest again no i didn't even take a guess on that one that's crazy crazy
but um octopus's dick is also its tentacles And sometimes it has to give up it's dick
It'll like let an arm separate
So that the female doesn't eat it
Cause females would just jack them
Eat the dick?
Well they eat the arm, they'll take his dick which is also his arm
They'll take one of his tentacles and they'll eat that
And like it's almost like he's like
Here eat my arm
And it grows back
Dude it's the craziest shit ever.
There's a lot of videos of it.
Female octopuses just jack male octopuses and kill them and eat them.
From the dick or the arm?
You don't know.
Their whole body is the same thing.
That's fucking crazy.
And they stuff them.
They stuff them into holes in the reef and just peck away at them for days.
Yo, why do you sound as much as that weird?
You got more excited about more and more and more.
I'm fascinated by that shit.
You're fascinated about every goddamn thing.
But this is something to be fascinated by, because this is a living thing that we can
look.
If we found this on another planet, we'd be freaking the fuck out.
If they sent one of those probes, those like Mars probes, to another planet,
and they found this just laying in an ocean somewhere,
and they studied this.
This is the life form on this planet that's dominant.
And sometimes the females, which are super intelligent,
sometimes they just kill the males and eat them.
That's what this guy's doing.
This girl, rather, is killing this guy.
She's killing him right now.
She's strangling him and biting him and slowly eating him.
The fact that you can do a play-by-play, that might have been one of the most impressive
things I've seen.
They're mean.
Of octopus getting eaten up by its wife.
They're smart and mean.
They don't live very long.
They taste good, too.
They taste real good.
But they're smart.
Calamari all day.
That's squid. I don't think they're as smart. Oh, yeah. I tastes real good. But they're smart. Calamari all day. That's squid.
I don't think they're as smart.
No?
Oh, yeah.
I don't think squid are that smart.
Are they smart?
Who's smarter?
Octopus.
I love real.
I sure love real squid.
Yeah, they change color and stuff.
Oh, that's true.
What is the other one that does?
Cuttlefish.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cuttlefish does crazy shit.
That's the little fat ones that blow up?
No, that's a puffer.
Yeah.
Cuttlefish is like this weird thing that's like it's not quite a squid.
It's not quite an octopus, but it looks a lot like them.
It's a similar thing, and it can change colors.
You've seen them in restaurants?
That's what it looks like.
That thing's freaky.
But get a video.
See if there's a video that we can see.
See, I'm not into this weird.
Dude, these things just do cuttlefish camouflage.
Dude, they look exactly like their surrounding, and they just jack things like that.
So they blend in perfectly with the environment, even the texture.
They can look like coral.
Look at that.
Damn.
They can look like the rocks on the bottom.
They look like all kinds of different things, and they can change really quickly to blend in with whatever the background is.
They're freaky, man.
That's crazy.
They're really freaky.
What do they taste like?
Fuck, at the end of anything, what the fuck do they taste like?
I think they taste—people eat them.
I know that.
People eat anything.
They eat cuttlefish.
I think it's like a luxury fish.
It's like, you know, very—I think it's highly sought after in some ethnic
cookings right like Asian style cookings I know I've had it I know I've had it
yeah cuttlefish cooking tips mmm yeah I don't know yeah well you do elk so
cuttlefish is not you can't be part of us you've had squid that much difference
I know you could sell me on it because I try different things.
But certain places you go, you're a distant chick with a sloppy mouth.
You know, the one that's like.
Yeah, people love that.
That's kettle fish she's chowing down on?
Dude, that looks good as fuck.
That looks real good.
But it looks weird.
That looks like an alien thing.
Yeah, I could do that.
Tastes just like squid, she says.
If you saw that on another planet, if they found an animal underwater another planet
they could change color and blend in with its environment they don't even know how the fuck
it does that they don't know how they do that they watch them do that and they try to figure
out how the fuck this thing instantly mimics the texture of coral and blends right in but that's
years evolution oh for sure but i mean it's it's beyond what anything else
on this planet can do like you look at like what we can do we can't do shit and the thing that we
did well we can exactly like we reproduce yes and that the act of that is the simplest thing you
could do in your life the act of reproduction oh my like, oh. The next thing you know, nine months later, you're responsible for something.
True.
Yeah.
And it's your body's program to want that more than anything.
To reproduce or to sexual?
To get the sex.
Oh, yeah.
But then I don't think.
Your body's program for that.
And to reproduce, though, ultimately.
That's what's crazy about.
So that's what somebody could say.
Somebody cheat.
They was like, I was just feeding my need to reproduce. You can't say i was just being unfaithful i don't think that's gonna fly
okay but it's amazing that it was so much of our society is based on the on sexual desire right it
really is just a call to reproduce like a girl's ass and a girl with big tits and small waist like
you see that it's like a program that runs in the brain
that gets the body saying, oh you, you need to get,
you need to make a baby.
You need to make a baby.
It used to until COVID-19, that shit's slow.
Yeah, but it is something.
And then that becomes, get to a mental part too.
And that happens with women and guys.
You know what I'm saying?
Do people should meet up for dates and get tested?
Once they get testing everywhere,
people should meet up for dates, get tested,
and then go out.
It'd be kind of a fun little thing to do.
Yeah, it would be.
It would be.
I'm telling you,
it's going to go back to that second wave.
Yeah.
Somebody's going to slip through.
Somebody's like, you know,
it's like...
I wish I knew if that's the case.
I don't know.
I don't know.
This situation, man,
this situation,
it's going to change for so much shit, bro.
The way people think about so much things. And it's going to, this situation, it's going to change for so much shit, bro. The way people think about so much things.
And it's going to, you know, ultimately it'll make us better people or a better place.
It'll change a lot.
But we're still very fortunate.
And we should just use this time to make a better situation for ourselves.
We can do that.
I say that to people.
I was like, it's easy to get down. It's easy to have an excuse why you don't want to do that. I say that to people. I was like, it's easy to get down.
It's easy to have an excuse why you don't want to do something.
But, you know, or you could challenge it.
And that's what it is.
The real problem is people with families that lost their job.
That's the real problem, being able to put food on the table,
people being able to, you know, they want to get their business back up.
How can they possibly make a living again?
It's not like anything else where people lost their business.
They didn't make any bad mistakes.
You know, if a person makes a bunch of bad mistakes and they lose their business, they kind of at least know what happened.
But when all of a sudden, if you've been working hard your whole life and you have a successful business and then boom, the floor falls out in a month. Yeah, but then I will say Trump, I mean, what I get from Trump and him, that they
have been, or
trying to be as aggressive
with keeping
small businesses alive more than anything.
Yeah, and that's a good move. It's very important.
Restaurants, small businesses, but
you know, there was a thing today
in, I think it was the Washington Post,
where they were talking about how they're already
out of that money that they deemed for small business loans.
They already ran out.
They already spent it all.
This was recent because I know where they went back for more money.
I hope they do.
It was today.
I was reading something today.
I don't know what paper it was, but they were, was it Washington Post?
All of them.
All of them.
And it's basically saying that they need to figure out how to keep doing
this if they're gonna if we're gonna social distance protect particularly in california
like we the idea is may 19th now or may 15th is that what it is may 15th i think 15,000 now yeah
i mean and how are they going to start it back up and what are they going to do start it back up and
what what are people going to be like like how long is it going to take before everybody settles
back in again you know they don, they don't really know.
But it feels like if they ease it up, that's going to be more for, like you say, people that work.
Right?
Yeah.
That's where the issue would come in is like how people are going to feel comfortable going to work.
Right.
We were talking about guys who work at grocery stores, right?
Right.
You used to work at a grocery store.
It was just a job. Now it's a job that could kill you like what like it doesn't even pay that
Well imagine a job that doesn't pay that well that could kill you
Yeah
So imagine being there right now and deal with these people coughing and walking back and forth everywhere
You look all these new people all you're being constantly exposed to these people's air and it used to just be a regular job
Now all sudden it's a regular job that might get you so sick you could die.
Like, fuck.
That's why they're going to go try to, you got to fucking raise that minimum wage now.
Watch, that's going to probably happen.
I guarantee that'll probably happen.
This is what we're realizing in all of this, is that if you do have a crisis, this is the good thing.
do have a crisis this is the good thing the vast majority of people comply with what's needed to you know stay home just go to the supermarket do essential things come back just stay home let's
just let this shit die off let the people that have it right now let them get to a point where
they're not transmitting it to anybody else anymore everybody stay away from each other
let's just nip this shit in the bud and the way you look at it in terms of like different philosophies at different places
that have done it, some places have not been so aggressive and they've experienced a lot
of cases. And you could say, well, yeah, but those people, they're going to, it's going
to go through their immune system quicker and they'll be able to go back to work quicker.
I'm like, Hmm, I don't know. I don't know. But I do know that California has a very low
number of deaths in particular in a low number of,'s it's a low number of people that have gotten gravely ill in comparison to the size of the state.
Like if you compare it to New York, which is a very high.
You can't New York the population of five like five point five million in Brooklyn alone.
And everyone's on top.
And everybody's like, why are you so shocked?
It is an epic epicenter.
It's because everybody's there and everybody live up in the sky.
It's all about like when do you jump?
Like when do you make a move?
And California made a move a little bit quicker.
You know, and that's really what it is.
Like who acts the quickest?
And you got to do, and I do understand like the tough mandates because you have to lay it down because people will be easy and lax with it.
They are, but there's also people that are getting too much of a kick out of telling people what to do.
They're kicking people out of parks when it's like a family of three and there's no one else in the park.
Come on.
Relax.
There's no one here.
If you're there and there's no one else there leave the fucking
people alone let them enjoy the park now if other people come and they get too close to each other
then step in and stop them but i mean we're so if they do it like that then it's always gonna be
somebody's gonna try to push it so i can kind of understand too i get it too like fucking nobody
yeah i mean like i took my son for a walk the other day, and, like, he doesn't really know what's going on, but he knows what's going on.
And he was on his little scooter, right?
And I'm like, he was just happy to be out, right?
Just, you know, and he had his mask on.
I was like, is that the future?
You know, that little mask?
I'm like.
We're going to get so weird with each other I mean if you wanted a formula right if you were
if you wanted to be a real
conspiracy theorist and you wanted a formula
to get people
to more
more easily
be separated
and more easily give in
to the future of machines
taking over the world this is what you do
you give them a fucking disease where they can't even be human anymore.
They can't hug each other.
They can't kiss.
They can't even get close because they're worried they're going to get a disease that's going to kill them.
So what do you make them do on top of that?
You make them wear a mask.
So now they can't even see each other's facial expressions.
You can't even look a person in the eye.
You just see the eyes only.
Yeah, but something is going to make, I understand what you're saying,
but something is going to make those people feel more comfortable.
Quicker testing with quicker results.
A vaccine, I don't know how long it's going to take to get there,
but something is going to give people a vote of confidence.
Imagine the people that are-
And that's going to be with those numbers of like,
people want to be excited about like, what is it called?
Flattened out.
They're like, oh shit.
Flatten the curve.
Yeah, flatten the curve.
It's going to be something to give people more confidence.
And then when people have more confidence, some people are going to push it.
Right?
And some people are going to be like we say, it's going to be the new normal.
They're going to be taking extra precautions.
I don't know the next time I'll do a meet and greet.
Right.
A meet and greet?
cautions. I don't know the next time I'll do a meet and greet.
A meet and greet? That part of
pretty much that part of our
business is going to be gone for some
time. For sure. Do you remember that
spring break footage of those kids?
They caught down in Mexico going crazy.
Or was it Florida? It was Florida.
Might as well be Mexico. Florida's not
America.
They're down there going crazy.
All the crazy shit happens in Florida. That is not America. So they're down there going crazy. That's true. All the crazy shit happens in Florida.
That is not America.
So they go down there.
I mean,
if you're from Florida,
relax.
I'm joking.
They're not going to relax.
Relax.
They're going to be okay.
459.
My sister lives in Florida.
459.
This is when Don Hill said,
they'll blame it on me.
459,
Don Hill said he hated Florida.
Get him.
Those kids,
watching those kids
on the beach,
because there was no laws.
There was no law yet.
So these kids were just stacked.
And they moved slow.
And they were like the last state.
Right?
They were the last state.
Well, they're...
Florida just said that professional wrestling is an essential business.
Really?
McMahon, who has...
That is hilarious.
That's true, right?
Yeah, yeah.
What is the exact statement?
Because it sounds so ridiculous
I don't want to fuck this up
they rushed to judgment I think
they might have just re-evaluated things
oh did they re-evaluate it now
no no originally
oh
they're going to be taping this weekend
but if a show
that gives people jobs
and is produced
is creating jobs for other people.
Couldn't that be considered an essential job to the people that work there?
Yes.
So every job is essential then.
That's what I was trying to say.
Yeah.
The WWE is now considered essential service in Florida.
It's a service.
Officials in the state permitted employees of professional sports and media production with a national audience to hold an event if it is closed to the public.
Yeah, I think you should be able to.
If you test everybody and everybody's negative.
And, like, again, test takes 15 minutes.
And apparently they're working on ones that work a lot quicker.
And I say that, Joe.
I say that's when it's going to shift.
Like I say, people are getting somewhat a little bit of voter confidence when you know that you could get results rapid.
Yeah, I want to know if they made it in a lab or if it came out of a lab.
Somebody's making it in there.
They've got to get everything.
It's got to get approved.
No, I mean the virus itself.
The big theory is not just that they –
Not even that they made it in a lab.
That's not what they think.
What they do think is it escaped from a lab and that this was something that they were
working on in this lab with the very same type of bats they were working on in this lab.
This was reported by none other than Fox News.
I believe.
They have a lab there.
They're working on bats.
Are they working on viruses?
And it came from the very area?
It's not.
It's not impossible to pretend it's impossible.
Seems a little crazy for me.
That bet I heard.
It might be. My bat story was a, somebody, my story was bat and a snake was involved with it some kind of way.
There's a pangolin.
People thought that it was, that bats, like, this was someone told me that bats transferred over to pangolins,
which is this weird fucking armadillo looking creature.
I know what you're talking about.
The little funny looking.
Weird thing.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Like a dinosaur lookinglooking. Weird thing. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Like a dinosaur-looking thing.
Yeah.
And that somehow or another that got to people.
But then they thought it was a lady who was patient zero
who worked next to a stand that was selling bats.
But this article claims that the wet market,
the whole reason why that story got out,
it was a cover story for the fact that it escaped from their lab.
But, of course, that sounds so much like a plot in a movie.
You read it and you go, wow, it's almost too attractive.
Every other news reporting, like CNN, NBC,
it says that the U.S. officials are now looking into that unverified theory
pushed yesterday.
It doesn't say Fox News.
It says conservatives, including President Trump.
You said it's like a plot in a movie.
This whole thing feels like a fucking movie.
100%. Like a movie. Like whole thing feels like a fucking movie. 100%.
Like a movie.
Like to see Times Square with nobody?
Nobody.
Yeah.
Nobody?
My friend John Joseph took a run across the Brooklyn Bridge today and took a picture of him standing on top of the Brooklyn Bridge on his Instagram.
And behind him, it's just empty.
Like I am legend shit.
Yeah, it's crazy.
There's like a couple people in the background.
You can see them way far in the background.
But a normal day on the Brooklyn Bridge where people walk.
You get hit trying to.
Yeah.
But I believe that it's going to, in my belief, may not mean too much to anybody.
It has to start back up again.
When is the big question and what is it going to be like?
You know know I hope
people just have a continuation of I think it's a big continuation of what's
going on down now going on right now with the social distancing and stuff but
it's just like businesses aren't opening because this but this is gonna be this
is gonna be six foot it's gonna be six feet mask and everything for a while you can believe that
shit for a while yeah imagine the people that were already germ freaks right neil brennan i was like
i said neil brennan's a germ freak neil brennan and white people knew neil brennan and white
podcasters knew that this was going to happen they knew they knew it was going to be a point where
we're not going to go on a roll we'll be good
and Neil Britton
is a germ folk
and I laughed at him
I even called him gay
for um
fist bumping everybody
he knew
he did it way
way ago
I never thought this was happening
you knew it could happen
though
somewhere in your imagination
I know
there was a scenario
or a story
you
if anybody would have been like, what if?
I think you've seen this movie in your brain.
I've seen a bunch of movies in my brain.
That's what bothers me.
What bothers me is complacency.
I think it's real easy for people to just keep on keeping on.
And I think if you look at a lot of the problems that we have in our culture are from poor decision making and where people choose comfort over doing a smarter thing that's harder to do that's going to help your life more.
The easy route.
Yeah, it's real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real common with people.
It's part of you.
It's part of me.
I have it in my – we all have it.
We all fight it, right?
This is making you realize what's really important you 100 this is
what this is when you can realize like oh me losing weight is not about me
looking good it's about me staying alive like it might be the difference you me
dying from this shit or skating through it it makes you and then it makes you
think about it when we weren't thinking about it at all.
Exactly.
We weren't thinking about it.
Think about it.
You see, you, the day, I've seen motherfuckers.
You go to a motherfucking airport, motherfuckers, you know, quick piss in and out or whatever.
You got motherfuckers just like, come right out the joint.
Don't wash your hands or anything.
Clearly.
I didn't even think, I was, I was, I know about washing hands or whatever, but I didn't know that hand sanitizer was that gangster.
Yo, I thought people have hand sanitizer, hand sanitizer was gay.
Like, all right, oh, you old Mr. Old Germo folk.
But then you realize those precautions moving forward, those are going to help us.
Yeah, you got to be, you got to understand that every surface that you touch that's been touched by a bunch of other people, it has the potential to have something on it.
And that's just how it is.
It doesn't mean you shouldn't touch things anymore.
Just be real careful what you do with your face afterwards.
It's like a conscious.
Don't touch your face.
You take for granted.
Yeah.
You take for granted.
It's like it's easy.
It's easy just to be like, hey, what's up?
I know that. But the other thing is the stuff that you get in contact
with, your immune system
gets stronger when you're in contact with more
things. Like kids, particularly when
they're young, they say, you know, they used to have, what were
they called? Chickenpox parties? Yeah, we had
chickenpox parties. I was telling somebody about it.
I didn't know white people did that too. Apparently.
I read about it. Yeah, it's just like
I think it's just a common thing that Americans did
back before they gave kids vaccines for it.
Once you got chicken pops, it was about to be a sleepover.
And everybody get it one time.
Get it out of the way.
I was just talking to somebody about it the other day.
Apparently, it's real bad when you get it when you're an adult.
Yeah?
Not good.
Yeah, same with the measles.
Measles, well, measles kills kids, too.
But you're funny.
If you say, if you hear adult with chicken pops, you're like, where the fuck did you go, motherfucker?
Where have you been?
Chicken pox, motherfucker.
And by the way,
how do you not get vaccinated for that by this time?
There's a chicken pox vaccine, right?
I had it when I was a kid.
You can tell that old motherfucker's
got this shit right there.
That little, like.
Yeah, but that's also,
is that chicken pox, that one?
Or is that?
Measles.
I think that's smallpox too.
I think it's measles.
There's a bunch of vaccinations.
Chickenpox.
Our vaccinations scarred us up when we were kids, right?
I had one in my arm my whole life.
I had this weird scar on the top of my shoulder.
That's the old school scar.
The chicken would look at you like, oh, you got one of those?
Stab you in the old school.
Yeah. It was 1995, the vaccine in Varicella.
Before that, there were 4 million cases a year.
That's crazy.
Mostly in children.
That's crazy.
Who's going to be?
There's going to be a comedy club that says, fuck it.
Let's get opening.
Someone's going to do it.
Somebody's going to do it.
You just got to make people sign waivers.
Say the club's not responsible if you get sick.
Is that irresponsible to do?
Is that irresponsible to do?
I don't know.
Look, tell people to get tested.
Tell them to get tested when it's available.
When testing's readily available and treatment's readily available,
I think only then are we going to relax. Yeah, I said it. Yep, it's available, when testing is readily available and treatment is readily available, I think only then are we going to relax.
Yeah.
I said it.
Yep.
It's the truth.
Then the question is, like, how do you tell people that you don't have it?
Like, if you go to a bar, are you going to submit to having an app?
I've heard that there may be some type.
I heard in Wuhan or whatever, they have some type of system where it is an app where I guess you register and you can scan and see.
I know that has to be in development.
Dude.
I was just talking to somebody about it.
I don't know exactly what it is, but I think that that technology exists.
Do you follow Willie D from the Ghetto Boys?
Yeah.
Go to his Instagram, and he's got a post where there's a company that's sticking a microchip in these people's arms.
They hired a fucking professional tattooist and piercer, a professional piercer guy.
What has to come in for you to get it in?
What the fuck?
Imagine if your company tells you, I know you don't want to bring keys.
You know, why are you bringing keys everywhere?
I'm just going to give you a little microchip.
I'm going to make sure you're showing up to work on time.
You don't have to punch in anymore. You're all set.
They're literally
going for it. They're going for it in this
video. Everybody's laughing and joking around
about it. That is real, right?
We didn't get hoaxed. Did we get hoaxed?
It's a news story.
If it's not real, I can believe it.
I don't know about it on his page, but I know
exactly what you're talking about.
I watched it and I was like, what in the fuck are they thinking?
It's on MIT's website.
There it is.
This company embeds microchips in its employees and they love it.
Look at the title of that.
50 employees at Times Square Market got RFID chips in their hands.
Look at that.
50 employees at Times Square Market got RFID chips in their hands.
Those are probably people that know that anything, they probably know that anything that the government wants to find out about you, they can find it out whenever they want.
Look at this.
When Patrick McMullen wants to diet Dr. Pepper while he's at work, he pays for it with a wave of his hand.
Oh, well, definitely don't carry credit cards anymore.
That's too hard to do.
Just let him put a microchip in you.
Pay it with a wave of your hand.
I think LaGuardia, one of the airports in New York,
has got the experimental thing going where they have,
in one of the terminals, a place where you can go shop.
You just swipe your credit card when you walk in,
and you just leave with whatever you got,
and they charge you.
Oh, wow. Like those Amazon stores.
It's the same technology.
I guess Amazon's licensing it out.
Well, that makes sense.
It's still a credit card, though.
Like, it's not a chip.
The Amazon store, you don't waive your card.
I think you just have your phone with you, kind of, and it just knows that you have that.
As long as you can leave it at home.
This, you can't leave it at home.
This is what's so crazy about this.
How hard is it, you lazy bitch?
You can't pull your fucking credit card out?
You're willing to let them put a microchip in there so you can get a Diet Dr. Pepper with a hand move?
You can loan somebody money with a DAP.
At his office, he's one of dozens of employees who've been doing likewise for a year now.
That's very funny.
Imagine, that's how you give each other money?
Yeah, like that.
Dap, slap, cash, dap, slap, dap.
You can't touch now because of Corona.
What are you going to do?
No, but I mean, oh yeah.
That's why, oh, I couldn't pay you, bro.
Social distancing.
Mick Mullen is the president of Three Square Market,
a technology company that provides self-service mini markets
to hospitals, hotels, and company break rooms.
Last August, he became one of roughly 50 employees at its headquarters in River Falls, Wisconsin,
who had volunteered to have a chip injected into their hand.
Fucking yikes.
What I saw was a dude was getting it in his forearm.
It must be a different company.
So this is what's scary.
Is this going to be the new norm?
Like, what if you get fired by these people and you get hired by Amazon?
Do you have to put in one of their chips?
Do you have to take out your old chip?
Do they sell the chip to the company?
My guess would be when you leave, give me my chip back.
Oh, my God.
They cut you open.
But that doesn't – that does not surprise me in the least.
It doesn't surprise me, but it alarms me.
It alarms me that people are so interested in having someone put a chip in their body.
But we-
But a company that tells you you have to do it, if their company tells you you have to do that, fuck that company.
But I know it, but those are people that need to feel the need of being a part of new technology.
I want it.
If that's the hot shit, motherfucker's going to have it.
This was 2014,
says microchips will be implanted
into healthy people
sooner than you think.
It's going to happen.
Yeah, it's going to happen.
I mean, they called it.
It's going to happen for 2014.
It's going to happen for people like,
I say, look, think about it, Joe,
somebody with Alzheimer's.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
They're going to find a smart reason.
If somebody is abducted, you know what I'm saying?
It's weird to think about it, but then if you really think about it, it's going to be weird, but there's going to be plenty of reasons why it's going to make sense.
And then people are going to say, tell me where your chip is.
And people don't want to tell, so they cut your hand off.
This article, I don't like it.
It talks about this guy getting a computer virus implant in his chip.
A year later, Gasson infected his own implant with a computer virus,
one that could pass on to other computer systems
if the building's networks were programmed to read his chip.
As Gasson breezed around the workplace,
spreading the virus and corrupting computer systems,
certain areas of the building
became inaccessible to his colleagues.
Jesus Christ.
That's how wars
are going to be fought, Joe.
Yo, motherfucker don't give a fuck if you
can fight in wars like this. Who
can hack this shit?
That's where the wars, it's not
going to be the physical shit. It's going to be like
you got one motherfucker in the room that could crash some shit like that.
Do you know what that fucking do to everybody?
Dude, I was watching this video of this couple that was infected,
and they were being dragged out of this building by these security guards in hazmat suits in China.
It was either police or someone.
Was that an exercise or was it real?
It was real.
Yeah, because I saw something.
It was, I want to say it was a man and his wife that both tested positive.
I don't remember, though, but they were being dragged out.
They were being, like, picking them up like they're criminals.
I saw some videos.
I don't know if it was just, it might've just been associated with Corona
or some other footage,
but I've seen some stuff where motherfuckers like,
they was pulling this one lady out
and they fucking cracked her neck.
Next thing you know, she's on ice.
Really?
Yeah, I can't remember.
And you know, people are crazy on it.
And that might be somebody like,
a story not related to that,
but they changed the headlines,
get a different clickbait.
Well, when something catastrophic starts happening and people start dying, people justify a lot of crazy shit, man.
And one of the things that I bet people will justify is they'll justify manhandling people that they think are not complying with the rules or people that have the virus.
And then shit could get real crazy if that becomes normal.
It is going to become normal because you think about it. Like right now when you have cases of people getting frustrated, somebody is, yo, you inside my body zone, my social distance.
And this is when everybody's not even out of here, Joe.
Is this in New York?
Yeah, this was just last week.
Why is this person getting dragged off?
What happened?
He's probably wearing a mask.
Oh, he won't wear a mask, so they're just dragging him off because he's not complying?
Yeah.
Yeah, fucking crazy, man. Making it all worse because they're all closer. Yeah, this won't wear a mask, so they're just dragging him off because he's not complying? Yeah. Yeah, fucking crazy, man. It can get even worse because
they're all closer. Yeah, this is crazy.
This is crazy. But it also is crazy that
this guy doesn't think he should wear a mask when he's on
a fucking bus, crowded, filled with people
while there's a pandemic disease
going on. He should have a fucking mask on.
So where's the happy middle?
The happy middle is not these cops
grabbing this guy and physically yanking
him off the bus and causing this, you know, very violent moment.
I mean, I think the thing we need to figure out more importantly with that is, like, put your mask on, son.
Yeah, he didn't have a mask.
Maybe he just didn't have it.
Yeah.
We need to make masks available to people, too, right?
You don't want to lose your life.
Yeah, but to those people on the bus, they're probably very happy that the cops came and pulled that guy off.
To lose your mask.
Everybody's got a mask and this guy doesn't?
To lose your life for a fucking mask.
Mask rules everything around me.
There's a terrible video of a bus driver in Chicago.
And he makes this video talking about people were on his bus just coughing
and constantly coughing with their mouth open.
He's like, please.
He's like, we're out here risking our health to do this service,
and you people are being completely disrespectful and not caring.
And four days later, he got it, and now he's dead.
So this guy, he's in this video, and then a short time afterwards, he's dead for this guy he's in this video and then a short time afterwards he's dead
for what he was talking about i've heard so many cases of that dude imagine all of a sudden you're
but you're a bus driver and instead of just driving a bus now you're also worried you're
gonna die from a pandemic disease and you have to keep going to work and being surrounded by
these people because
someone has to drive people around.
They're not getting on buses no more, bro.
No. Muppets not getting on bus.
They're not getting on bus.
When does this start back up and what
is it going to be like, Donnell?
What is it going to be like when the gears get going
again? That they start clink, clink, clink.
It's going to look like
the international terminal again. They start clinking. It's going to look like the
international
terminal
for
Fly Korea in Japan. That's what
it's going to look like. Motherfuckers are going to be on
masks for a while.
They're going to be masked up for a while.
How long do you think? A year?
Yeah, I mean
you got to being able to test vaccine how do you get rid of it
you know they're going to teach us how not to catch it okay i got it how i get rid of it and i
was watching one of those shows on cnn with this black doctor and she was talking about how they
are close to a vaccine or something because they're just extending, I guess, certain tests.
They were doing something else that had similar traits.
I'm not a doctor.
I don't know exactly the story.
But it was a story of the study and the research of it had already started.
Oh, so they had already been making the vaccine for the other stuff?
Yeah.
Was it SARS?
Is that what it was?
It wasn't SARS.
It was one of the new viruses I'd never heard of,
but it was an interesting story
because she was, I don't know if it was goop
or whatever the motherfucker's what it was,
but it was a great conversation.
Like, what if, okay, we had,
they not we had, but had realized that something like this is
about to happen because of this strand of something this is going to be the next herculean
shit how do we get ahead of it and there may be some people out there that um had already been
thinking that they're going to find something to cure this shit well they've definitely been
thinking that this could happen because they're not i know it may sound crazy certain shit is like i don't know what has
got the world so involved not it wasn't specific to a race or anything just like like like they
say in the streets anybody could catch it anybody could catch it you know yeah that's that's the
panic and that's what that's where they're the panic is in every community.
The whole world.
Look at the whole world.
The whole world covered with humans.
Everybody's got it.
It's on every continent except Antarctica, I think.
Antarctica is the only place that doesn't have cases.
That's what's wild about human contact.
When you think about how a disease can so quickly spread from China just all over the whole world and shut everything down.
They said that if China was honest about it, I don't know if this is true, but this is what I was reading in more than one different story, that China could have stopped 95 percent of the spread.
They were just honest about the beginning.
And I know. And they say if Donald Trump was honest about it, they could have set in mandates for social distancing and everything a little earlier.
I think a lot of people were real skeptical, unfortunately.
A lot of people were real skeptical and no one anticipated it happening like this.
They were giving him a hard time when he was saying that they should stop travel from China.
People were calling him racist.
Now everybody stopped travel from everywhere.
Yeah, but a lot of people want to call him racist for fucking goddamn anything.
If he just drank coffee with no sugar, whoa.
See, this is the reason why I don't want to fuck with this motherfucker.
Well, the things get cloudy, right?
Because, like, what is the thing?
The thing is he wants to stop travel from this place because of diseases in this place.
And then the reaction is, well, that's racist to say and we should be more
sensitive and this is yeah but people don't understand that donald trump don't move off of
emotions the things that he say is not you got to understand that certain people build like this
certain people don't make decisions off of emotions and that's what so many people get
connected and disconnected with a cannon whatever it's It's like, yeah! I fucking rooted for him.
They get connected with the emotions.
And then certain people like him
and people of that like mind
which are mostly business people,
they don't fuck with emotions.
They only fuck with results. It's like,
oh, I feel sorry. Did you think about
I don't care about none of that.
That's not how I work.
But my point was that if you gotta give the guy a hard time about not reacting quick enough to certain things,
you've also got to give him props for shutting down traffic to places early.
But nobody wants to do that because it's a weird one.
Because the people that don't want to do that, Joe, is the ones that are caught up in the emotion.
The ideology.
Some people do not deal with reality.
Right. Their reality. And not on the Trump. I'm not Some people do not deal with reality.
And not on the Trump. I'm not trying to harp on the Trump shit. But Isaiah
Washington. You know Isaiah Washington?
Grey's Anatomy. We have a good friend of mine
I've known him for years in Brooklyn.
He's like
a loyal
Trump supporter.
He
supports Trump. But I've heard him say I don't vote's a he's a he's a he supports Trump but
I've heard him say he said I don't vote for a person I vote for policies I vote
for policies and I'll give you an example well this is a weird one Donnell
because no one had ever experienced this before no one's doing the right thing
haven't experienced pandemics that shut down the whole world so when he when
anyone's doing anything right now,
everyone's gonna be criticized.
100%.
But you gotta do, like, what people don't, like,
I listen, I watch both outlets, Fox and CNN.
That's confusing, isn't it?
It's confusing, but CNN just where, yeah,
CNN is like a nagging girlfriend.
It's like, oh, bitch, shut the fuck up.
It's the same shit, bitch.
Yo, Joe, you like CNN or have you like, bitch, oh, you don't got nothing else to argue about?
Five years ago, you haven't found another argument.
CNN's be like, uh-uh, you remember that time?
You remember that time?
Fox be like, bitch, listen.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you listen to, if you listen to too much CNN, br bro, you don't even know what the fuck is going on with nothing other than how much you hate this motherfucker.
It didn't used to be that way.
I know.
CNN used to be pretty straight journalism.
Yeah, but now.
It's like their relationship with Trump is so toxic for both of them.
It's so.
For both of them.
It's so, I want to get you back.
It's so like, girl, let me get you back.
Girl.
It's so true. It's so Popeye's chicken.
Girl, you go with lemon airs and spices.
Girl!
It's so, and like, the point I'm making is like, but when I listen,
I listen to both because you want to hear both perspectives if you really care.
You listen to both.
But then when I go to Fox and listen to it, I at least hear, okay, this is what our plans are.
This is what we want to do.
This is what the plans are.
This is what the president says he's going to do.
This is what the government wants to do.
You go on the other side, all you hear is like 1,000 people, more people die, die, die, die.
That's all you hear is the numbers and numbers.
You don't have no solution.
And then the problem is, Joe, people get fucked up on how they want your solution
conveyed to them. It's like, can you give
it to me slow, Joe?
Can you have Vaseline with it?
Or are you going to be rough with me?
And they can't take
a motherfuckers that... Motherfuckers can't
handle rough. I'm going to get...
I'll put it like this, right?
I'm going to get a Democrat, right?
And I love being a democrat until tax season
you know how close i was to putting the make america great again when it was time to file
my taxes son yo but the point i'm making and i i i'm probably an example for a lot of people
i'm a small business you know I'm a vet
I'm a veteran
I served the United States Air Force
I did my times
I don't know if they're going to say how good of an airman I was
but I committed four years of my life
to this country
you know what I'm saying
it is not about let's take away the shit about
but the way he made me feel
and then he said that he's such a so and so
let's take away that in my situation oh, but the way he made me feel. And then he said that he's such a son. So let's take away that.
In my situation, there's a lot of people that are.
I'm a small business animal vet.
And the things that he do for those type of people, it's easy for me to say I could justify it if all I'm thinking about is money and paper.
I could justify, yeah, I fuck with him because of that.
paper. I could justify, yeah, fuck them because of that.
But it's people,
the disconnection right now with this election I feel is that
everybody has,
they're using, everybody's stakes
is on emotions.
It's all on how I feel.
Oh, I like this guy, like that guy,
like this guy, whatever.
You know, this is like, this motherfucker
was going to come into this election and just beat the
shit out of anybody.
The economy was doing well, you know what I'm saying?
And my whole thing was with anybody getting upset, Joe, what are you going to fight this motherfucker with this time?
You don't have no more fighting styles.
Yeah, well.
But being pissed.
It's not good for anybody.
It's definitely not good for him. It's not good for anybody. It's definitely not good for him.
It's not good for them.
But that's what sells.
Like this battle sells.
The battle sells.
This is a, you know, when all this dust settles,
we're going to reevaluate so many different things about our culture
because we're going to realize how temporary this civilization we put together really is,
especially if we hit a Great Depression after this.
We don't bounce back.
Things can get real ugly for a lot of people.
They're going to feel very misled and mismanaged and mishandled and misprotected.
I don't think that's going to be the case.
Dealing with this, again, not a doctor, professor, anything like that,
but it's more technology involved these days.
There's more of a possibility of making profit off of this.
And you know how when you can make money off of something,
how people feel about that.
Just like you was telling me about the testing situation.
Like, you know, it's like, have you had a test?
Like some motherfuckers don't even know where to begin.
And the reason why I don't know where to begin, because like this, okay, because what they tell you, Joe, what do they tell you?
They say, don't come up in this motherfucking hospital or whatever unless you feel a little fucked up.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, everybody doesn't have the benefits that you have.
You know what I mean?
And this is no disrespect to anything.
So what happens?
How do I?
So what they're trying to say is, I got to be sick before I go see.
That's some people's reality.
You know, some people like this.
Oh, don't go check.
You know what I'm saying?
But what this shit is going to switch over.
We're going to switch over, but we're going to start having a level
of confidence and that's going to be because
we're going to handle this shit quick.
This is what I think.
We're going to handle it quick.
We need a certain amount of health
coverage for everybody.
And this is a perfect example
of that. Because the more people
get sick from this, the more everyone else is going to get
sick too. The more people get sick from this, the more everyone else is going to get sick too.
The more people get sick off of anything, Joe.
Yes.
Anything.
I keep saying it.
I keep saying it.
The thing that's going to
enlighten everybody
and understand about this
is like,
I know you don't want
to get the COVID,
but while you're trying
not to get COVID,
you're stopping a lot of shit.
Yes.
You're stopping a lot of shit.
Goes back to what you were
talking about,
diet and everything.
Yeah. And that's why they're like, in the black back to what you were talking about, diet and everything. Yeah.
And that's why,
like,
they're like,
in the black community,
like,
oh,
it's hitting hard.
Motherfuckers.
Come on,
man.
Like,
we talked about this before.
Nobody wants to deal with fucking reality.
And the reality be right in your fucking face.
The reality is always in our face,
yo.
I think the large number of people that live like that, Donnell, is just a symptom of this crazy society.
Now that this has been shook up, I think a lot of people are going to reevaluate.
They're going to think about the things that are putting them in jeopardy.
I believe this.
The weak people are going to get weaker and the strong people.
I think it's something like this.
Weak people get weaker.
Yeah. And strong people get stronger.
It could happen.
Or weak people can figure out that what they're doing could really end their life
and that they've been fucking up and they need to step up.
And then they'll step up now because they realize that this is all temporary.
But you can be weak and smart at the same time.
Sure.
There's a lot of people like that that are really intelligent,
but they don't have control of their emotions or they don't have control of their discipline. There's a lot of people like that that are really intelligent, but they don't have control
of their emotions
or they don't have control
of their discipline.
It's real common.
Discipline is the number one.
It's a big one.
It's a big one.
It's what gets things done.
It's the thing that gets things done
more consistently than anything
is discipline.
And nobody's going to ever,
nobody's,
not too often you hear somebody
say this,
Joe,
why didn't that happen?
They're going to be like,
oh yeah,
I was young.
Not too many people are going to say it.
And it comes down to I wasn't disciplined enough.
That's what's so fucked up about this crisis is that there's people that were doing the right thing.
They were disciplined, and still they get their livelihood taken away from them,
and then they get their health taken away from them.
They did the right thing.
That's what's so crazy.
Yeah.
That's what's never happened to us before.
thing that's what's so crazy yeah like that's that's what's never happened to us before and that's what it's so it's not funny but um that's what when it comes to uh even death you know like
when somebody you hear about somebody dying and you were close to them or you know a story of them
or something now when people die you hear this right here. Oh, shit. We lost a good one today.
Like the other days, we lost those guys.
They weren't good ones.
You know, it's like out of all these deaths, like this one today, oh, we lost a good one.
Well, sometimes when someone dies that you're like a fan of, like Prince or David Bowie or Bill Withers, when Bill Withers died real recently, it was like, oh, that guy died.
Live at Carnegie Hall?
I know.
That guy was, that song used me.
I mean, come on, man.
He had so many great songs.
That song, You Are My Friend?
Yeah.
One of us has to say he's sorry, or we could never be friends again.
I said some things that cost you sorrow.
I just want you as my friend.
We're here today and gone tomorrow.
Wow.
None of us knows where life will end.
That song, man.
Live at Carnegie Hall.
And I'm going to tell you the thing I dug about Bill Withers the most.
Me being a comedian and loving music.
You know, I don't know everything about music,
but, like, if you heard his Live at Carnegie album,
the transitions from one song to the next,
you would appreciate, if you haven't heard it, Joe,
the comedic timing of it, listening to the crowd,
you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know what I mean. Like, the storytelling of it is like his little husk.
And the things he would say was all on point.
He took a craft of suspense to build up the joke.
And then going back to, I love that.
When he introduced Grandma's hand, he said, Grandma used to go to church.
And it wasn't one of them churches where you go and you say,
if you're loving Jesus, it's all right.
He said, no, no, no.
He said, Grandma went to one of them churches where the beat start getting to you
and you get them to that stove, you say, ow.
That was Grandma Church.
Then he said, I love that old lady.
I love that old lady. I love that old lady.
Grandma's hands.
Oh!
Oh.
Oh!
If you haven't heard that album in a while, and you know it's classic,
and the thing about Bill Withers, people don't know, the youngins, the millenniums,
they don't know half the songs, half the remakes, whatever,
half the shit they get connected with came from him.
I wonder how much
I wonder if he was on the
Lionel Richie
level of royalties or
whatever, but this fucking
album right here. How about Lean On Me?
Boom, boom, boom. Lean
Song.
You know what I'm gonna tell you? i use that song as the background theme for my roasting
of charlamagne the god yo i just want to say i have theme song for this motherfucker joe
yo yo i have theme songs some times in our life i i pray for him. Because I slaughter him, son.
Why do you guys go at it so hard?
I don't understand.
You brought it up.
I didn't bring it up.
Joe, I'll explain it. I brought it up earlier, but I brought it up about.
I'll explain it.
I'll explain it, Joe.
Joe.
Joe, this was a day of frustration right here.
Okay?
I've known this crew for some years, Joe.
Angela Yee go back 20 years.
DJ Envy go back 15.
We used to do Hot 97 together.
Charlamagne, we worked at MTV's Guy Co. together, right?
It's all love.
We know each other, right?
And then I used to go up there.
I'm up there so much because I work at Caroline's on Broadway.
You know, that's where you promote it. So I go up there. They started this there so much because I work at Caroline's on Broadway. You know, that's where you're promoted.
So I go up there.
They started this thing where they want to play pranks on me, right?
Like, oh, we got him.
You know, one prank was when he comes in, no one laughs at his jokes, all right?
Right?
This went, look, it's like this.
One of them is like this, Joe.
When he comes in, don't laugh at his jokes, right?
So I go in, and I ain't trying to be funny.
I'm just funny.
And nobody laughing or anything.
And I'm like, Joe, I'm thinking like this.
I'm like, I know the fix is on, Joe.
You do?
You were suspicious.
Joe.
Something was wrong.
Joe, have you ever seen me in a room and nobody's laughing?
I can't say that, no.
Okay, that's pretty much everywhere I go.
I'm just being honest.
You know you're funny.
I know I'm funny.
But not only that, but my energy, even if I'm not funny, my energy is good.
I came in, they trying to play it.
And I'm like, oh, I'm about to tear everybody up in this room.
I'm like, I don't hit women, but ye, I'm going to hit you with something, right?
And they're like, ah, we told them not to laugh.
And I'm like, okay, little corny joke.
Three or four other times I go there, they keep doing these jokes.
And I'm like, stop doing the motherfucking jokes.
Like, I know we're friends or whatever, but at the same time, I do have a resume.
I have done stuff
I'll continue to do stuff
as much as they want to play this is the reality
of it. Do you feel like it's disrespectful?
No it's a disrespectful way like
anything you try to call me
not funny you see me stand up
6500 people at Radio City Music Hall
Charlamagne you said
out of your voice
that Donnell
I went to see Radio City Music Hall Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle hall. Charlamagne, you said out of your voice that Donnell,
I went to see Radio City Music Hall,
Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, and Donnell performed that night. He said, I love all of them
and I ain't taking away nothing. He said, but
Donnell, that night was on.
You saw that, nigga.
You saw all this shit. So you
trying to say you corny,
which is an allergic word to a
black comedian, you corny, like, no. You trying to give the impression that I'm corny and is allergic word to a black comedian you corny like no you're trying
to give the impression that i'm corny and not funny it's just a waste of time and it don't
make sense so now that we get little joke stuff off now give me a real interview you know i mean
that's the only thing i say give me a real interview okay did you does he know you feel
like this you ever talked to him off the air? Yeah, we talked about it.
But what I'm saying is, but this is how petty he is.
Okay.
This is the reason why I won't stop.
Because he won't stop, right?
He'll say, I've expressed myself to him like this.
He said, that's why I don't like playing with you, nigga.
You're too sensitive, right?
So we go back.
Okay, fuck it. Let's go back. I was like, okay, fuck it.
Let's go back.
And like we've had the conversation.
But what I realized, Joe, is that it doesn't matter what I say.
He's never going to give it.
You know, he's never going to do it.
So what I have to do is continue to destroy him on the level that I need to destroy him in.
The memes, I'm ruthless.
I've seen them.
And people are like.
I thought it was an inside fun joke, though.
I didn't know it was so serious.
No, it's serious and it's funny.
Okay.
Joe.
Everything is always underlining.
Everything is always something underlining.
It's like, no, we're cool, but ugh.
So you never feel comfortable?
Can't just hang?
No, I like him.
Oh, I like him.
We'll have fun together.
I have said to him, you know why?
I said, I know why you think you're a sex symbol and you look good.
I said, because I was in South Carolina this weekend, right?
And I said, you are the best looking person in South Carolina.
You should feel like a king
we fuck with each other
like that but also know
his radio background I'll never take this away from
him this is where we differ
his radio background is coming from South Carolina
you know how it is getting radio
going from a market like South Carolina
to New York, New York is the number one radio market
period
you go from that from a PA
or intern whatever entry level position You go from that, from a PA or intern,
whatever entry-level position you had,
you go from that and you build and you grind
and you're a country motherfucker?
You're a country motherfucker?
And now you're Charlemagne and God?
He works hard.
And he does that podcast with Andrew Schultz, too.
Yeah, they do it.
What is that, Brilliant Idiots?
That's a very good podcast.
I'm a person of this.
Two of them together.
They are. They're great. I'm a person of this. Two of them together. They are.
They're great.
I'm a person like this, Joe.
If you're doing it, I can't hate on that.
You're doing it.
You do a really good job at it.
You're doing late night and all that type of shit.
I respect that.
But stop with the same.
You can't clown me.
You can't clown me.
I'm not a. You can't clown me you can't clown me i'm not a you you can't clown me you're giving people asses for
christmas presents giving people asses you didn't know this joe no like charlamagne
joe you didn't know this i didn't know this what the fuck are you doing man
just busy doing other stuff oh yeah we went through this again right
i forgot we went through this with Spittin' 16 too,
I'm sorry, I didn't mean.
Yeah, but this is different, like giving away fake asses.
No, no, no, a fake ass, now you, okay,
can I play into this scenario?
Yeah.
Before you see this video.
Okay.
Right, and I'm not trying to say anybody's gay,
but sometimes people are real comfortable.
Comfortable.
Real comfortable.
Okay.
If Jamie were to come in here like this,
and be like, oh Joe, good to see you, man.
I haven't seen you since Holly.
I got a gift for you.
You'd be like, thanks, Jamie.
That's nice.
You open the box.
And you open that box.
And you open it.
And then Jamie gave you this as a gift.
Okay.
Here we go.
Let's open it.
Let's see.
What is this?
Yo, this is Friends.
Is that a rubber ass?
What is that?
Look, Joe.
Oh, he made a mold of his ass.
Right.
Oh, okay.
That's funny.
It's kind of funny.
By how long?
For a little bit.
For how long?
Like just as a ridiculous thing to buy someone.
But then Embiid goes and put his finger in the booty hole.
Well, you know, you do what you got to do.
You want to get a laugh.
What the fuck are you talking about, man?
I don't care.
Really?
No.
Okay, all right, all right.
You're comfortable.
You would be comfortable.
Black ass, black ass.
Well, oh, look at the balls.
I didn't know about the balls.
What the fuck?
Maybe this is the wrong show.
So is that an exact mold, or did you just give him a picture and say, do your best?
That's important.
See, see, Joe?
Like porn stars do that.
Here it is.
Do you know that that's what they do?
And guess what, Joe?
And this is what I try to say.
You really appreciate that.
That's white boy humor right there.
You love that, Joe.
It's not my favorite thing.
It's not your favorite thing.
I'm not going to lie to you.
It's not my favorite thing.
It's not your favorite thing, but that's a humor you can respect.
I can't respect that.
That's what you're telling me.
Like, dude, I T-bagged.
Dude, it's my whole life.
No, I have never done that.
But what they're doing is, okay, that's unnecessary.
Exactly.
Unnecessary and rude.
Okay.
And no one likes it like that anyway.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
This is the setup.
that anyway oh my god oh my god this is the setup that's the thing that with porn stars man they they get paid to get like molds of their body and then dudes so you're trying to say charlamagne
is a porn star that's how they make those i don't know why there's a hole okay joe i don't know how
the fuck they made that one but don't bring it to my interview and don't keep putting it in my
fucking face is that fair don't know just think about this why don't keep putting it in my fucking face. Is that fair? Donnell, just think about this.
Why is there a hole?
If it's a mold of your ass,
the only reason why there's a hole
is they put it there. They put
a place where you can stick something in.
That is the same thing as the poor star.
And the point I'm making, Joe, is that that's not
what you gift your mans.
I understand. I understand your position.
I know you're going to know how to break it down the whole ass
and the anal cavity and all that type of shit.
That's not what I'm saying.
And then would you be sketchy of a guy?
What are they going to do, fill it up with cream?
What is that?
They're polishing it?
Polishing it.
Look, that's DJ Envy.
He's got a family, Joe.
He's got a family, Joe.
No, he's got a family and a dope son.
Envy's a great father. He's got a family. When. No, he's got a family and a dope son. Envy's a great father.
He's got a family.
When you're there, go for it.
Once you already got the party rolling, you're fingering a rubber butt.
Oh, come on, man.
Why not cover it with cocoa butter?
I'm not mad.
I'm not mad.
So you don't think.
You don't.
Okay, now, okay.
I wouldn't want that.
So I wouldn't.
Here's the thing.
You wouldn't want to what?
I wouldn't want to give me that.
I wouldn't want to be there.
I wouldn't want to have to deal with it when I got to me.
You don't want to be around the type of motherfuckers that think they're 20. I don't want to be give me that. I wouldn't want to be there. I wouldn't want to have to deal with it when I got to me. You don't want to be around the type of motherfuckers that think that's funny.
I don't want to be fingering it.
No.
I don't.
No.
Now you're going to understand my point.
I understand.
The point I'm making is that I know that's your thing, the booty stuff.
You guys have fun.
You know, like, y'all have fun doing it.
I am not of that place or space.
You're not into fingering rubber butts in front of people on camera. Not at all.
And then they went back and forth. Son,
they went back and forth like they keep doing
the corny jokes. And the last time I went up there,
I already knew what they was gonna do.
They was gonna try to do a joke. You know
those horns they take to soccer matches?
Baa! Yeah.
I went to the breakfast club
with a bag full
of them motherfuckers.
And every time he said something, I did like this.
Jesus.
I shut him down.
He couldn't talk, right?
Then I'm shaking it.
I'm like this.
I got the motherfucker like this.
The Freon is freezing my hand, right?
I'm shaking it.
I'm like, uh-uh.
And then my shit went dead.
Then he said, yeah, motherfucker, you ain't got no more spray.
I went right in my bag, Joe, and I got another clip.
I knew you would like that part more than anything.
I clipped up on his ass.
I was using windage.
You know what windage is on the gun, right?
I was using it, and I tore his ass up.
And I'm smoking him, and they still want to do the jokes.
They still want to do the jokes.
They ain't like this.
Joe, they won't stop, Joe.
These niggas won't stop, Joe. They still won't stop, right? These motherfuckers won't stop.
I'm telling you, Joe. So now they're like, oh, yeah,
your interview is over. We're gonna
leave, guys. They get up.
And leave you there.
And leave me there. That's a joke?
What'd you do? Take over the
radio show?
That's what I would imagine you would do.
Joe, it was about to go down. They said, we're leaving.
I was like, the fuck out of here.
Angela Yee, that's my girl,
Yee stayed. Angela Yee
said, they said, you going? Angela Yee's like,
no, I'm going to stay. They left the room.
Me and Angela Yee in there. Now, the interview
I kind of wanted them to give me, the series
interview or whatever, me and
Angela Yee clicked right into
the series interview.
Them motherfuckers bust back in.
Hey, what are you doing?
I'm like, no, nigga, y'all gone.
Go.
And they keep on fucking with me, Joe.
You know I'm sensitive, Joe.
You know I'm sensitive, Joe.
You know I'm sensitive, Joe.
You know I'm fucking.
The look on your face.
They keep on fucking with me, Joe.
They keep, Joe.
And they keep on.
Is this going to be like Tiger King?
I ain't going to jail fucking with them motherfuckers.
I can tell you that shit.
It's not going to be.
But now it's like, it's fun.
Every time I got an opportunity, it's so much fun.
Let me show you.
I got to just show you.
I have an arsenal.
I have an arsenal of this shit, son.
Hold on.
Bearded Humor be making these joints.
Look, hold on, hold on. Bearded Humor? Yeah, that's my guy. Look at these headlines. Bearded Humor be making these joints. Look, hold on, hold on.
Bearded Humor?
Yeah, that's my guy.
Look at these headlines.
Bearded Humor, he's so dope.
Look at that.
Did you know this story?
Jussie Smollett allegedly had sex
with his attacker at Chicago Bathhouse.
And then it's him.
And it's who?
Jussie and who else?
That looks like you photoshopped Charlemagne's face.
I didn't photoshop Charlemagne's shit.
That was him, son.
Not the same.
It's a terrible photoshop.
Look at that, Jamie.
That's not a terrible photoshop.
And he's got a MAGA hat on.
You got the message.
You got the message.
That's the type of venom I'll continue to spin on.
He's probably thinking that's funny.
He does.
That's hilarious.
How could you not?
How could you not? How could you not?
Cause I tore his ass up
I don't want to
Yeah but I will say
People ask
And the thing about
Everywhere I go
People like
Yo the breakfast club
They be fucking with you son
They be fucking with you son
So I just wanted to
Do you think there's a way
To do a show
Like within the next month
Where
Are you gonna produce it?
You test everybody
Are you gonna produce it?
No no no I mean like a comedy show Cause the last time You said you going to produce it? You test everybody. Are you going to produce it? No, no, no.
I mean like a comedy show.
Because the last time you said you was going to, and I'm not, the last time you said.
You mean podcast.
Yeah, last time you said.
You did it.
No, that's not what you said, Joe.
No, no.
What you tried to force me into doing was.
I didn't try to force you anything.
I feel like you did.
Jamie, did I force him into anything, Jamie?
What?
No, I'm not saying, I'm not trying. it's your spot, I can't blow your spot up.
But you said, I didn't force you, you said you was producing the first episode.
I said I would do it.
I said I would produce it.
And Jamie was not excited about it at all.
He wouldn't even take the shit off my phone.
But Jamie was doing something with you, right?
No, he didn't, it wasn't, he didn't do it on purpose.
What was the issue?
I was trying to, I was trying to Bluetooth, I was trying to airdrop the episode that I did in the car.
So Jamie was producing it.
He said it, but he started not taking my calls also.
Is that what happened?
Yo.
What happened, Jamie?
I didn't hit you on the DM.
I felt like something definitely we did help you get off the ground.
Oh, 100%.
That's why I can't take this one so far.
What did you do?
You put it up for him?
You uploaded it for him? No!
He sent me the video, and then
we got the video, and then a whole
bunch of stuff happened that day, including
the podcast with Reza. We were supposed to get a song from
Reza, which you got, I think, right?
Yeah, yeah, the beat. I got the beat. He never sent it to me.
The beat? How was I supposed to put it on that
video? I didn't know you was...
Well...
See, we felt like this was going to be more work than we
anticipated i knew it i knew it i knew it's jamie didn't want to do it as soon as the show was over
that i mean that kind of stuff where he's got to like figure out how to put the bead on the
you know if i don't know why you guys didn't communicate properly we did he wasn't fucking
with me joe joe he wasn't fucking with me joe i I'm blaming the both of you. Joe, he wasn't fucking with me, Joe. I don't believe that. When I walked to the side, he's very...
He always responds.
What happened, Jamie?
I don't want to say it on air.
Oh.
That's all.
I'll remind you guys off air.
Joe, I went over there...
He doesn't want to call you out.
Yo, no.
When I went over there, Jamie started breathing hard.
When I went over, he was like...
This is what you said, Jamie.
I'm telling you, you said... you looked at that little scroll line.
You did like this.
Your eyes blinked, bro.
You did like this.
You said, it's going to take too long.
All right.
Here's what happened.
Now I'm remembering it again.
Okay.
In the middle of, we'd finished your podcast,
and we started the next one with RZA.
I have to do stuff in the middle of doing two podcasts.
That's what I didn't know, Jamie.
During that, you came up to me and started not making me,
but asking me to help you.
Right.
I had to get the next podcast ready.
And I had no idea.
And at the same time, I was trying to communicate with you
how to use AirDrop.
And you weren't on the Wi-Fi, weren't on the Bluetooth.
And that's the best way to get the video to me.
We were trying to figure out if you could do that or a Dropbox.
So, Jamie, you didn't hear me say this? You didn't hear me say that or a Dropbox. So, Jamie, you didn't hear me say this?
You didn't hear me say this, Jamie?
This part of the story, you didn't hear me say this, Jamie?
Jamie, I don't want to upset you.
What do I need to do to make this situation easier for you?
I never said that.
We got that part figured out, though.
Yeah, but that was the first thing.
But, see, I didn't know the urgency of it.
Here goes my narcissistic attitude. I was thinking about me,, I didn't know the urgency of, I was, here goes my narcissistic attitude.
I was thinking about me,
and I didn't think about you had another show,
so you were 100% right.
I fucked up.
Well, I contacted Jamie,
and Jamie told me that you got somebody else to do it then.
Like, who else did you get to do it?
And that's what I got.
David's helping you now, right?
Yeah, I did it because somebody wouldn't answer
my fucking phone call.
It wasn't me.
Okay, all right.
It got done.
But here's the thing.
Listen, I'm happy you're
up and running. That's what I'm saying.
I could never be mad at that situation
because that was the kick in the
ass for me to do it. You know what I'm saying?
The fact that
that day, it was
the birth of it. You know what I'm saying? That day
was so special to
me. You know what I mean? I didn't want to be at the RZA
podcast. I told you. I was like, I just got off a flight,
haven't seen my son in a while.
Right.
I said, I was like, fuck.
You was like, RZA.
I was like, yeah, nigga.
I said, yeah, nigga.
I called you nigga.
I said, yeah, nigga.
But my son, I ain't seen my son.
I got a red eye, right?
And remember that.
And I was like, right before, before I was going to leave,
you asked me, you said, you sure?
I was like, nigga, I gotta see my son, right?
I love Wu-Tang, but I gotta see
my son. And I walk out the door, I'm about to leave,
I'm dipping in the car, fucking
RZA pull up. And the
first thing he said was, what's up
Ashley Larry, you funny motherfucker?
Hey Joe, I said, man,
fuck my son, nigga, that's the RZA,
Wu-Tang forever. My son
don't even look like me, nigga. I'm good, nigga, I'm about to interrupt the shit out of son, nigga. That's the RZA, Wu-Tang forever. My son don't even look like me, nigga.
I'm good, nigga.
I'm about to interrupt the shit out of this, son.
That's what happened.
So if I was out of pocket, I'm going to tell you,
because I would have never been of the notion like,
you better do this.
I was, nigga, anybody in America,
to kill y'all understand, Joe Rogan and Jamie said
they're going to produce my first podcast.
RZA come through the fucking door saying, I gonna give you a track that's a lot of things
to happen in a day that's a lifetime motherfucker Joe Rogan just endorsed my shit Jamie said that
RZA came in bong bong trying to be a comedian and he said he's gonna give me a beat I was like man
when we went to that podcast I was was on fucking cloud nine, bro.
When you do your podcast, what are you doing?
Twice a week?
How many days a week are you doing it?
I do it, it all depends.
Like, twice.
Twice.
I do one.
One.
Sometimes I do two.
Sometimes I do one.
It all depends on how I feel.
But I think I can gut two.
Whatever you feel like doing.
Yeah.
Isn't that nice?
Yeah, I love it.
I'm telling you.
Whenever you feel it. Man, Joe. Isn't that nice? Yeah, I love it. I'm telling you. Whenever you feel it.
Man, Joe, I'm going to tell you something.
From that day, I will be forever grateful for that conversation, you know,
because it put me on a path of, like, everybody,
everybody that starts this business, they want to be you.
They want to be you.
When they start, they don't look at the steps when they start they don't look at the steps joe
they don't look at the steps the only thing they see is you now you got some loyal fans but when
it comes to being somebody being introduced to the game or whatever you're the grail you're like
i want a nigga you can't just do that motherfucker you gotta fight for that shit you gotta go through
a whole bunch of shit you can't do. But what you could say is like,
I wanna have the work ethics that that motherfucker have.
You know?
That's everything.
That's everything.
Just keep doing it.
And if you keep doing it, you get better at it.
That's it too.
When I first started, when I was stressed,
you said I was sensitive?
Because I didn't know that,
I'm not in control of the podcast world.
I'm in control of a stage.
If I go on a stage, nigga, you come at me,
I'm gonna tear your ass up.
You come at me with the trolly shit or whatever,
I don't know, I don't know how to act,
it's some new shit.
And then as I, when I first started doing it,
I never promised anything, anybody crazy.
I was like, it's gonna evolve.
And even the people that I'm working with,
I said, listen, man, it's a learning process.
I said, but every week, we gotta grow.
Every week gotta be something different.
If our sound was kinda shaky the week before next week, we can't have that sound issue.
Of course we're going to make mistakes, but we can't repeat the same mistakes.
That's when it gets to be a nuisance.
Let's grow.
Let's grow in terms of the mic, the posters, everything.
Yeah, it's like everything else, man.
The more you think about it, the more you can improve it.
The more you think about what you did that maybe you could have done better.
It's not ever done.
Like I'll have a bad podcast to this day.
Sometimes it just doesn't click or I'm off or my brain's not firing that good.
It's going to happen.
No way around it.
But if they dig you, they'll tune in and find out.
Well, they kind of can tell.
If someone listens to you for so many hours, they kind of get it.
It's just like there's some days, like any other human being,
there's some days like physically you don't feel as good as you feel other days.
You run down.
Your brain doesn't work that way or rather that way either.
When you run down, your brain doesn't work well.
Sometimes I'm just not as sharp or sloppy
or maybe I'm not as enthusiastic as I should be.
Maybe I'm not tuned in as much.
It's all about being tuned in, man.
And I've had some – and it's so funny you say it because every time I've done an episode, right, I'm like this.
You know, when I get off stage, I know when I ripped.
You know, you're like, oh.
I'll do a podcast and I'm like, did anybody see the scorecard?
I'm like this, Joe.
I'm like, yeah. You know how they muffle like this. And you like this. And still like, did anybody see the scorecard? I'm like, Joe, I'm like, yeah,
you know how they muffle like this,
and you like this, and still, oh yeah.
But for some reason, those moments I'm like,
oh I don't know, because it's hard,
I can't be critical of myself when I'm talking.
It's hard, man.
You know, I can't think, but the times
that I thought it was gonna be like whatever,
was some of the best, it felt good, man.
It felt really good.
And this shit feel good from nobody.
Everybody talk about you on the RZA podcast.
That motherfucker gave me four beats, bro.
And I didn't cut this beat up into all type of shit.
So I got commercials.
I got ass ass.
I got the remix.
This one fucking beat is so dope.
Do you see the thing with him and DJ Premier?
Yeah, I was in and out of it.
How interesting is that?
It's interesting.
It's a great way to make something out of all this shit.
But you know what, Joe?
I'm glad you brought that up, right?
Because that's the new thing.
Everything is the versus thing now, Joe.
Right.
The battle.
And then people like, even with that, people were like this.
They said, who won?
And in a battle like that.
Everybody won.
Everybody won.
Everybody won.
Hip hop won.
You also, people won because you're watching it while it's happening.
And these guys are having a good time knowing that all these people are getting into it online.
And it's all going down on your phone.
So it's all, everything is this completely new thing from top to bottom.
The quarantine is completely new thing from top to bottom. The quarantine's
completely new.
The fact that RZA
and DJ Premier,
dude,
I'm a huge Gangstar fan.
I've loved Gangstar
from a long time ago, man.
That's like real rap
and that's what was
so dope about this.
And this is the point
that I was trying to make
on the RZA joint.
I was talking about
like one of the things that I'm impressed about RZA,
and I know people's like this,
you didn't let RZA talk, really, RZA talk, whatever.
But I felt like motherfuckers say the same shit,
same, same shit.
I know it's his voice to say it,
but I'm like, anything else that we,
do we know about RZA?
And I'm more impressed on being able
to create a group as iconic as wu-tang is that's it and to be able to say you know what not saying
it was the strife or anything it's like i'm a bad motherfucker i can flip genres i can do whatever
i'm gonna show another white writing style so that's one of the things that I personally respected about him
and his journey.
They built one of the most
iconic bands in all of music.
It's the Black Grateful Dead.
Or what did you tell me? Fish
or some shit? No. Fish is a
copy of the Grateful Dead.
When I say that, a band that can tour
forever. Yeah, forever.
But there's something about them.
It's like what they stand for is strong.
You know, there's that expression that the sum is greater than its parts.
So, like, you counted up all of them together.
Hold on, son.
You all right?
Hold on.
Together they just work perfectly.
Hold on, son.
Hold on.
I'll be right back.
All right.
All right.
Who took that motherfucking joint, son? All right.. Hold on, son. Hold on, I'll be right back. All right. All right, who took that motherfucking joint, son?
All right, I'm good, son.
They were all so original, too.
And ODB, when ODB went big,
that was part of their master plan, though, right?
What, ODB?
Yeah, when he was doing that Baby, I Got Your Money song.
Come on, man.
It's still to this day.
When you hear that song,
that's one of my all-time favorite songs.
That's a happy song.
Baby, I got your money.
And he was like, you know,
ODB was ODB.
The only thing
that I liked about what your fans said,
the nickname they gave me, because they was giving me
Wu-Tang names after that shit, right?
They called me the Old Dirty Interrupter.
Right? And I was like this. I had to give a thumbs up on that one, son. They called me the old dirty interrupter. Right? And I was like this.
I had to give a thumbs up on that one, son.
They called me the old dirty
interrupter.
And the thing about it was
that shit, the dirty interrupter,
it blew up so much.
RZA
hit us up.
They were doing a 25-year
loud record anniversary at Radio City Music Hall. hit us up but they were doing a 25 year loud and a very loud loud 25 year loud
record anniversary at Radio City Music Hall Wu Tang whole bunch of groups right
and uh Riz reached out to us and he wanted us to do a video to introduce to
Wu Tang on stage me and Dave was um we were me and Dave where Dave were touring, we were somewhere, and we did a video and they played at Radio
City Music Hall and the video was like, yo, Dave was like, yo, what's up Radio City Music
Hall?
Did you see me coming in?
Let me say something, let me say, did you ever see it?
No.
Oh man, it was a great ass moment, man.
And as much as people want to shit on me about he ruined the podcast,
and I know most of it was the energy Dave had,
but that little connection came through.
I was like, you motherfuckers didn't woke up a beast.
You know, you ever be so mad, Joe, it make you go do something?
Wait a minute, I have seen this video.
I have seen it.
Yeah, it's like a selfie camera.
Yeah, it's a selfie camera.
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's right. selfie camera. Yeah, it's a selfie camera. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.
And they played that while the concert was going on.
And then it was like, man, it was fire.
You know, that probably didn't even make page six or whatever.
But it was like, to know that that is a part of my life, you know what I'm saying?
Those relationships, it's just fucking dope, man.
Like, RZA gave me a beat, nigga.
Come on, man.
That's pretty impressive.
Yo, RZA gave me a beat.
Shout out to my whole crew, Julius.
And that's what you use for the podcast opener, right?
Yeah.
But it's like the
intros I did like co-opens but and I don't want to be like overly producing anything but I've
established something with the intros where they I think people kind of look forward to like how
this will play not knowing what you know yeah for sure it's just that you're just able to express yourself so easily there.
When you do something like that where no one has any input,
it's just you to them.
It's like you're basically doing a lot of what you do
when you do radio shows anyway.
You just do it to the whole world.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's just you rant for the whole world.
And you don't know, the hardest part is like,
you don't know they're listening yet.
You got to wait. Yeah, that's true. You got to wait for the response on part is like, you don't know they're listening yet. You gotta wait.
Yeah, that's true.
You gotta wait
for the responsible stage.
You knew that shit
was whack or not.
Yeah.
It's just a different thing.
It's just a different thing
to focus on.
It's been fun.
It's been so dope.
And now it's like
with the COVID-19
and everything,
it's like,
I really have time
to put into it.
And I'm having,
I'm really,
I'm really having fun doing it.
It's fun.
That's beautiful, man.
It's, it is all about finding something to occupy your time that you enjoy.
That's a big part of what life's all about.
But I'm hoping this does too for people once the dust settles and the economy starts to
bounce back.
I'm hoping people, when they go forward, they're going to make choices based on what they want
to do, what they really want to, what they really are excited by, what they're going to enjoy.
Not on what they think is the safest option.
Not on what they think is best for the long term.
They have to now because they're feeling what's important now.
Yeah, they're feeling it.
They have to.
They're feeling it.
So it's like, what do we do?
What do we do?
What do we do?
What do we do?
Why is that me?
What do we do? When you do an impression of me, why do you say, what do we do what do we do what do we do what do we do why is that me what do we do why
did you when you do an impression of me why do you say what do you what do we do because everything
is not all the time but i know i don't what do we do but it's not just what do we do it's like a
movement what do we do what do we do what do we do what do we do and why you what are we doing
you're telling us what what we need to do but but you still say what do we what do we do because i'm never sure but you don't you sound like and that's you sound like you write about
everything you don't know too many motherfuckers that sound like that i definitely don't sound
like i'm right about everything i'm wrong about a lot of shit but i'm right about what you don't
sound like it i'm right about what i think and then i know this is how i think i'm pure in my
intention i'm not always correct what do we do what do? What do we do? What do we do?
What do we do with intentions? Yeah, what do we do with attention?
What do we do we ignore it? Do we ignore it? What do we do? Don't get sucked in your phone, baby
Don't get some comments. Don't do it. It's just time you can never get back
That's important. It's time. You can never get back
You're too creative. You're doing too much good shit.
You're doing too much funny shit.
That bit that you posted up on Instagram the other day,
I love that bit about how women love text messages
because there's no way you would ever let them say that many words to your face.
No, son.
You would not do it.
That first paragraph, it's like, not today, bitch.
Not today.
You're going to save this for somebody else
yeah when they're giving you
this fucking
one
two
three
four
five
six pages in a row
Jesus
shut the fuck up
how many text messages
are coming in
are we reading to each other here
and then
sorry Jamie
but they're all stocked up
and then you hit K
and they'll fucking lose themselves
K is hilarious
K is a motherfucker.
K, whatever it is, that's so passive aggressive.
You don't even write okay, just K.
Just K. It's like I don't want to hear
anything. It's like a
please.
You can kind of get away with K.
You can kind of get away with okay. But if you write
like, you know, some people write a bunch of K's.
Like if you do that, that's like
you're like dismissing them, right? Like okay, okay, okay, okay. But you can never stop at three Ks. If you do that, you're dismissing them. Okay, okay, okay.
But you can never stop at three Ks.
No.
Three Ks is like...
You gotta go to four.
If you just like that message now instead of hitting K,
even if you just liked it to that girl back.
That's weird, man.
Girls get upset at that.
I feel like girls want you to write it back.
Okay, sounds good.
Thank you, bye. They want you to say it back. Okay, sounds good. Thank you.
Bye.
They want you to say it back, Jamie.
Nah, man.
You can't just fucking like their thing.
Because what if they have Android?
It says it.
It's a text message to them that says you like this message.
How weird is that?
It's fucking confusing.
And I didn't like it.
I just thumbed up because I don't have no middle options.
That's how they keep us divided.
Yeah.
Edwards is right.
Android and Apple.
That's how they keep us divided. The separation is right. Android and Apple. That's how they keep us divided.
The separation is real.
That's so real, man. You can't even
airdrop me? I got that weed. What was that weed?
Good weed, right?
That shit was a... I never
had that from you. Speedweed.
Speedweed's blunts. They're called loaded.
Shout out
to my man Gino.
Gino's always got that belt
I think he's always got the belt
He has literally a bandolier
Like Clint Eastwood in an old western
With these cartridges of blunts
All around him
Yeah
It's hilarious
You gonna keep that on?
Nah I just like it son
In less than a half an hour
We're gonna find out whether or not you got the COVID.
Got that Rona.
I wish we'd done it before.
I don't know, son.
We'll let everybody know.
How do you feel?
You feel good?
I feel great.
That's the thing.
That's the thing that's going to freak motherfuckers out.
A motherfucker could feel great and not be great.
You don't know.
Yes.
That's what's scary about this disease is more than any other one how many people test positive
but don't experience any symptoms and then other people just die it's like it is confusing for
folks because i think they said there's some the number was between 50 and 70 percent right
they they test positive they've come in contact with the
virus they have no symptoms at all when do you think we're going to get back to normal
i don't think again joe is never going to be another normal i think this is it now
yeah this is it i just think that um uh people are going to build a different uh
imagine if you graduate in high school and this is what happens is the world you're looking forward
to motherfucker right when i get out or another thing you can think of like i was talking with
my buddies and um i've been having a really good time with um my son making stuff he said man i
know this may sound crazy but this corona shit he said you and your son will look back one day
you're gonna be like hey dad
remember when we made that um slingshot during when the corona was out yeah you know i'm saying
it's like and it's like you know the memory is going to be there all type of ways yeah you're
building memories that you wouldn't have ordinarily built yep as long as you're alive and as long as
you're healthy it's just it's I think the positive side of this,
you can always look at the negative side,
but the positive side is look how many people are complying.
Look how many people are doing the right thing.
Right.
A lot of people.
A lot of people.
And they're doing the right thing because they care about their loved ones.
And hopefully they care about your loved ones.
And people aren't complaining as much.
People are not there like, fuck it, that's what fucking that's what i mean some people are hurting financially a lot
of people losing their businesses they're hurting but the amount of strife the amount that you see
in the streets as far as like riots and protests it's non-existent people are understanding we're
all fucked this is like we didn't see it coming we all all got a deal. I just hope this makes people realize that all that pull them up by their bootstrap stuff,
like people love to think that that's how people should be.
You should just pull yourself up by your bootstraps, go out there and fucking make something for yourself.
That's all true.
You definitely should go out there and try to accomplish some goals.
But there's going to be times in our lives as a community where some
shit goes down and it's not anybody's fault, but they need help. And that's when we have to
evaluate what our taxes go to. Because if our taxes don't go to some form of excellent,
very accessible healthcare and making that more widespread, then you're basically
saying you don't really care about people's health and their survival as much as you care
about money.
Now, if we're going to commit to that kind of a culture after something like this, well,
we're insane.
We're not learning anything.
We should learn something from this.
What we can learn from this is health-wise, we're not not prepared whether it's through hospital beds icus ventilators
uh social distancing protocols whatever the fuck it was we weren't prepared for something like this
but now that we are we should all go hey yeah you know what man no one should not have the money to
pay for treatment for this so what do we do what do we do joe what do we do what do we do? What do we do, Joe? What do we do? Change the way we look at our services.
It sounds like you said
we've got to
change thinking, period.
Change thinking, but also change what
our money should go to.
Our money's got to go to that.
It's got to go to that. That's very important
for everybody. When people get sick, it
spreads to all of us now.
We don't want ever to know
anyone that you love that's going to die because
they can't get healthcare that's available for people
that have money. We've got to stop
that, just like we stopped with the fire
department. The fire department goes to people's houses
when the fire's on fire.
Hold on a second. The fire department goes
to a house when it's on fire because not just to that
house. They don't want it to spread through the whole city.
They go. That's the same thing with healthcare. If someone's really sick that house they don't want to spread through the whole city right go well that's the same thing with
healthcare if someone's really sick if they don't help you and you got
coronavirus you spread it to everybody else right you don't get the health care
so it and you you're contagious it's almost like a fire in a lot of ways like
a viral fire but aren't we living in a system where everybody is qualified to
have health care we should be we. So what is covered California?
What the fuck is that all about then?
I don't know, man.
I mean, if you think about how much money gets spent on things, right,
whether it's computers, whether it's cars, whether it's houses,
whether it's the things that people buy,
how much of a percentage of that,
if you could escalate it just a little bit
and all that money goes into just health care not just
taxes where no one's accountable you don't know where the fuck it's going to go what if everybody's
dollar cost a dollar five just an added five cents for most things you buy up to a certain point all
that money goes straight to health care wouldn't you be willing to pay instead of a dollar a dollar
five for something if you knew that five05 is going to go towards health care?
You know what?
As a business person, that $0.05 may mean a lot to me as a business person.
You're right.
It might.
That's what I'm saying.
That might be for – I can't know.
I look at that $1 and $1.05.
That's only $0.05.
Now, if you talk about that being billions and millions, then a person don't –
That's why I said up to a certain point, up to a certain amount
of money. I mean, after
a while, it seems like
it would be better for everybody.
And it would be better for us
to not worry about what
happens if you get sick, because you don't know if you're going to
be able to pay for it. Sometimes people get hit
with crazy medical bills after
an unexpected injury,
or an unexpected disease, time in the hospital.
They got a huge bill that they can't fucking pay.
It's real common that people go bankrupt because of that kind of shit.
And if you're entitled to it, you got to go get it.
I don't know, just, man, this whole COVID shit is so just,
I don't even know if that's a word.
It's just like, ugh.
You go back and forth with it,
but I think that if nothing we can do is like,
we must agree there's no going back to normal.
Well, not until they come up with the vaccine,
and then even normal then,
it's going to be normal that we realize that this happened.
And when I say vaccine, I'm not a pro.
It's not that I'm saying we've got to take the first vaccine
that comes down the road.
Don't worry about the microchip.
Let's not get crazy.
I'm saying a treatment, medicine,
something that cures this fucking disease,
just like they've cured every other disease.
Just like they've come up with treatments for polio
or smallpox or all the other fucking disease.
Leave it to the medical scientists.
Leave it to these people that study this shit.
They're going to try
to figure something out.
Once they do,
whatever it is,
if they can
and once they do,
then I hope we ease back
into what life used to be like,
but with an added knowing
that this shit can go down.
Right, but until then?
Until then, the mask.
Not today, Rona.
Are you nervous? No. Are you nervous?
No.
Are you nervous about the future?
Uh-uh.
Good.
Beautiful.
The only thing I can do is be the best of me.
You're definitely not the best of you with a mask on, so take that off.
I know.
I got to get ready for dinner, too, man.
Yo.
20 minutes.
In 20 minutes, you're going to get tested.
All right.
Excited?
I'm super excited.
I'm telling you, just like this, when you think about it, it's like you don't even know a motherfucker that know a motherfucker that got a test.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
And I know that that's definitely the direction we're going in because on the news, I've been seeing them like testing stations, testing stations.
But I don't know if
everybody knows what's the system
and then for what I hear on the news
whatever, don't go to the hospital
don't go, but I guess going to the hospital and testing
is different, don't do this
unless you
feeling symptoms or feeling bad, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I read this one article
where this doctor was
telling people, there's so many people that come that don't have it, but then they go to the hospital in the waiting room and then they get it in there.
Right.
Because there's people that have the flu and they don't have coronavirus, but then they go and then they get the coronavirus at the hospital while they're waiting around to find out if they got coronavirus.
Looks like they have a broken leg.
They ain't trying to go to the hospital right now.
I know.
My friend said it.
He goes, I'm not going to the hospital for a year.
I was like, really?
This dude, one of my friends was in the hospital.
I told him he was in the hospital.
He was like, man, fuck that.
My leg would be broke. Fuck that.
Yep, god damn it.
We're going to get there, Joe.
I think we're going to get there.
I think we're going to figure this out.
It's going to be a tragedy for a lot of us. It's going to be bad for business. It's going to be bad for restaurants and comedy clubs and everything else. But at the end, I think we're going to emerge with a better understanding of the temporary nature of life, of our society. And hopefully we'll be just cooler to each other. That's what I'm hoping.
society and hopefully we'll be just cooler to each other that's that's what i'm hoping like when when i said i was into bernie sanders what i'm into is someone that wants to look out for people
that aren't doing as well and that that this is something that we should all think of biden though
though you don't fuck with biden that's what the streets say they say you don't fuck with biden
it's only somebody said ask him about biden son i didn't know if he was fucking with biden or not
i think he's in a some sort of a state of cognitive decline.
And it's not my opinion.
It's a very common opinion.
It's not just my opinion.
You watch videos of him.
He's stammering.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
And they're trying to ignore it.
And they would never ignore it if it was anybody else that they didn't agree with or they didn't enjoy.
didn't agree with or they didn't enjoy.
And you watch the fact that they're not concerned that these people that are on these left-wing media shows aren't talking about this and about how important this is.
And the only people that are talking about it are people that are on these internet politics
shows.
Yeah, but everybody-
They're talking about it and bringing it up because they're not beholden.
But motherfuckers just want to win.
Just want to win.
They just want to win.
But they're worried about some important things.
They're worried about the Supreme Court.
They're worried about environmental laws.
He's laxed a lot of environmental laws that they feel they should never be relaxed.
And then going into the second term, is he going to do even more crazy shit?
There was something that just came out today, Jamie.
See if you can find that.
It was for certain toxins that get released into the environment
and mercury, lowering the standards.
So it was some huge issue with, see if you could find it.
It was something about lowering the standards for mercury
and other toxins to get released, I think, from factories,
which is like, whoa, what are we, you know, if that's what we're
doing, are we really going to
separate? That was Biden's platform?
What was it?
This is Trump. This is Trump. This is the
Trump administration. The current administration did this.
And what does it say?
It's behind the Washington Post paywall, but it says the EPA
is going to change the rule for rule-cutting
mercury pollution. This is February
17th. It wasn't like today. Oh, no, this is february 17th it wasn't like oh no this
was a a new article that was out just yesterday that i was reading that was talking about lowering
the standards it was talking about in the middle of this coronavirus lockdown they're lowering the
standards for mercury and some other toxins that's i think i didn't know no standards up i didn't know
three hours ago three hours ago epa gutting rule credited with coal plant toxic air cleanup.
Yeah, see?
Fuck that.
What did that black dude do, man?
He catfished somebody.
The man catfished a female.
Catfished a female on Snapchat to meet and rob victims.
Oh, shit.
Motherfucker's going to get robbed live.
Look at this EPA shit.
Go back to that.
Hold on.
It's thrown down.
Okay, sorry.
No, no, no.
Just let me read the title title they gutted the rule
credited with coal plant toxic air cleaner cleanup how the fuck do they even sell that to anybody
hey i got an idea you know that shit that we did that would cause the earth to be healthier
yeah fuck that right let's go back let's go back to burning mercury
okay uh obama era rule The Trump administration is gutting
an Obama-era rule that compelled
coal plants to cut back emissions
of mercury and other human health
hazards, limiting future regulation
of air pollutants by petroleum
and coal plants.
That's just crazy.
That anybody would say yes to that.
That's one thing that we get to see
is our impact on the environment right now.
Because if you look around at the pictures of Los Angeles
from just two months ago versus now in terms of how much smog is there,
that's a wake-up call.
I want to know what the black guy did, man.
He catfished someone and robbed them.
I mean, how did he get away with it, Joe?
He didn't. That's why his picture's in the newspaper.
All right, I didn't mean to interrupt, but I kept saying the black dude.
I knew you were doing EPA.
I was like, what the fuck did he do, stupid?
Florida.
He did it in Florida?
Goddamn Florida.
Word.
Done out.
So it looks like we're supposed to do those dates in September now.
Really?
Yeah, supposedly.
Yeah, it's supposed to be September 4th and 5th.
I saw that.
But you know what?
Right now, this hasn't hit.
Because the dates that I had in my book, I'm just, right now, I've been lucky enough right
now to keep them on my calendar and just move them.
Move them, yeah.
So it looks like.
We're hoping we move them, right?
Yeah, we hope we move them.
But the next time you really feel comfortable thinking it's okay is probably like fall.
Right.
Hey, was that thing that I said about the Spanish flu, was that true?
Because we couldn't find the meme.
It wasn't on Charlemagne's page.
It was on someone else's.
Yeah, all that other shit was on Charlemagne's page.
The one about the Spanish.
Yeah, I just wanted to know if that was true.
So the idea was that they were tired.
I just wanted to know if that was true.
So the idea was that they were tired.
They were celebrating the war, and they broke the public distancing.
Who did?
This was in 1918.
And then it started the second phase.
And what the meme that I read said, that it killed the second phase of the flu,
killed more people than the war did worldwide.
I'm flu-storied out, man.
I am too.
You know once we go back, oh my God, it's going to be nothing but corona jokes.
Corona jokes are going to be... Quarantine?
You just got to do a flip.
You got to do something different.
It's going to be so hard.
If you go on stage after three dudes, they're all going to talk about the coronavirus.
Don't talk about the coronavirus.
But then how can you not talk about the coronavirus?
I can.
It ain't the way I want to fight, but you know what I'm saying?
Michael Yeo gets first crack because he almost died.
Yeah.
We should probably have a moratorium.
And I got the next crack because we don't know.
I got the next crack.
We're going to find out in 12 minutes.
I got to go to the bathroom, bro.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Let's wrap it up.
Let's wrap it up.
Would you, Clancy?
I don't know if it was exactly the way it was explained in the meme. I'll just leave it at that. Okay. Go ahead. Let's wrap it up. Let's wrap it up. What did you say? I don't know if it was exactly the way it was explained in the meme.
I'll just leave it at that.
Okay.
Close enough.
And drank four bottles of water.
This bitch.
I understand.
Bladders.
Donnell, thank you, sir.
Always a pleasure, my friend.
Man, what are we going to do?
What are we going to do?
I love you, man.
I love you too, brother.
I love you.
Thank you.
I love you too, Jamie.
I love you fuckers out there too.
Tell them to listen to my podcast. Listen the donna wrong show yay yes bye everybody all right oh man we did it
where the corona bitch at oh she's here any second now she's not here already