The Joe Rogan Experience - #1472 - Michael Yo

Episode Date: May 12, 2020

Michael Yo is a stand up comedian. Look for his podcast "Michael Yo Show" on Spotify. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Michael Yeo. Yes. Back from the brink. It's crazy. You are the first guy that I've, well, my friend Sturgill got it and I talked to him, but he didn't get it real bad. Like how bad is not real bad? Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:16 He was like a little fatigued. Yeah. Yeah. So give me the full rundown. For people who don't know what we're talking about, you got coronavirus. You were one of the first to get it that I know. You got it right after you were on this podcast. You were on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:31 You flew to New York. Did Gotham for four shows. Little rundown. Yeah, little rundown. As soon as I landed, I did Wendy Williams on Monday. And then I flew back and went to Vegas for a day as soon as I got back. And then I had three auditions. So I was rundown. And that weekend. Were you feeling sick already? No, no, just tired,
Starting point is 00:00:51 tired. But I mean, we're always tired, right? The road, the road gets you. Yeah. And, and I was, I was moving all the time and very stressful. You know, you're, you're trying to perform, you're trying to learn lines for an audition. So I was very stressed out. I was traveling a lot. And that was like my third weekend in a row. You didn't sleep? Much sleep? Yeah, I get great sleep.
Starting point is 00:01:13 But with two kids, they're both at the age where you have to have both eyes on them. Do you ever wear a sleep monitoring device or anything? I have. Like a whoop strap? No, I've never worn that. But I get eight to nine hours of sleep every night. Like, I'm a great sleeper. Like, I sleep through anything. So it wasn't a sleep thing. I was just tired,
Starting point is 00:01:37 overworked maybe. But that Saturday, I didn't feel right. My temperature went up to like 101. This is... You flew to New York what day? It was, I performed, I was there Wednesday, which would have been, I'm guessing it dates May 4th. I mean, yeah, March 4th, March 4th. I performed the 6th and 7th, stayed the 8th, did Wendy Williams on the 9th, flew back that Monday, went to Vegas Tuesday morning, came back that same day.
Starting point is 00:02:11 What did you do in Vegas besides heroin? We were visiting her parents, my wife's parents, with the kids. So no partying? No partying. It was drive in and drive out. But that's exhausting. That's exhausting. That's 10 hours on the road. Yeah. And then dealing with two kids in a car and then the three auditions. And then that Saturday, I didn't feel right. And this is, you got to remember when I performed
Starting point is 00:02:34 in New York, there's only 11 deaths and it was like 3000 cases. That's how much this thing has changed. But Saturday, I didn't feel right. 101, it went. I said, I should isolate myself. Because in New York, that's all you heard about. So I was like, let me just be safe and isolate myself. So let's break this down. So you leave Wednesday. You go to New York.
Starting point is 00:02:56 You do a couple of different TV things. Then you do the weekend at Gotham. And then you fly home. And then you go to Vegas on Tuesday. And then you fly home. And then you go to Vegas on Tuesday. And then you drive home on Wednesday. Drive back Tuesday night. Oh, Jesus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:12 So in and out in one day. In and out in one day. And then Wednesday, Thursday, Friday audition. Then Saturday, I was like, okay, this is my rest day. And then I woke up and something just didn't feel right. So I was going, okay, it's probably the road. You know, I'm stressed, road. So it's about during the day I hang out, I isolate myself, but I'm between 100 and 101.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Second day, I'm like 101, 102. But I'm still like, look, I'm going to beat this thing. They say stay at home because at that time they said, if you have symptoms, stay at home because they're taking the more serious cases. Right. So the Sunday, Sunday came around. I kind of went down a little. I was taking aspirin, a lot of aspirin because one doctor at the time said, take it every
Starting point is 00:03:57 four hours. And I was also taking aspirin and something else to bring your temperature down. I forgot what it was, but Oh taking aspirin and something else to bring your temperature down. I forgot what it was. But, oh, aspirin and- Well, you said when you started taking ibuprofen, that's when it fucked you up. That's when I felt it did. So Sunday, I started getting this massive headache. So that's when I really started popping the aspirin. Three every three hours.
Starting point is 00:04:24 But aspirin or ibuprofen? It was ibuprofen. There's a big difference between aspirin and ibuprofen. Ibuprofen is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory. Okay, I was thinking Advil. Whatever Advil. Yes, that is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory. This is what I keep hearing, and I don't know if this has been substantiated, that you shouldn't
Starting point is 00:04:41 take ibuprofen while you have this. Okay. Well, whatever reason, I don't know what that is. I don't know. I don't know if that's been discredited or is that, is that real? I don't know either. So I was taking a lot of Advil. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:55 A lot of Advil and Tylenol to bring the fever down. So I got it down on Sunday, but then I had a massive headache. So then they said, well, your temperature's going down. This was our doctor friend. Your temperature is going down. Just hit the Advil. So I hit the Advil Monday at noon. I couldn't breathe. Like gasping for air. And my wife had to call 911 to the house to come get me. So I'm gasping for air. 911 shows up. They bring me outside. They throw me on this huge, this oxygen machine right away. What kind of an oxygen?
Starting point is 00:05:29 A ventilator? Not a ventilator. No, just a normal oxygen machine. But they say, we got to get oxygen in you. Okay. And it's almost like a movie. The neighbors are all out. Ambulance is overlooking me.
Starting point is 00:05:42 You know, the ambulance is there. All the neighbors are looking. I can't breathe. My son is in the window. This is the worst. My son is overlooking me. You know, the ambulance is there. All the neighbors are looking. I can't breathe. My son is in the window. This is the worst. My son is in the window. He doesn't know what's going on, but he knows it's not good. And he's only three, and he's crying.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And I'm watching him cry, and I can't do anything. I can't breathe. And literally when they picked me up to carry me to the ambulance because they need to get me to the hospital right away, it was the whole window thing. He put his hand up. Oh, Jesus. It really hurt me really bad. So I get into the ambulance and they take me. As soon as I get to the hospital, the doctor goes, you got Corona.
Starting point is 00:06:18 So they take. But did they do a test or did you just know? Yes. The first thing they do is they do a chest x-ray. And they go, you got double pneumonia and corona. What's double pneumonia? When it's in both lungs. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:34 So double pneumonia and you have corona, we believe. But we got to test you. So they swab me and stuff. But they took all the precautions like I had corona. I was the first corona patient at this hospital. This is how early it was, you know? So, um, they took me to ICU, uh, and the doctor came in and I go, Hey, this is escalating real. And I'm still can't breathe. I go, am I going to make it? And he goes, we'll know in two days, it's going
Starting point is 00:06:59 to go really good or really bad. And we'll know in two days and every nurse or doctor that came in when they can't tell you if you're going to make it or not, you know, they try to comfort you, but they can't really say you're going to make it. And it, and I was in the worst pain I've ever felt in my life too. Where? Head. I mean, just think about the worst migraine you've ever had times 100. My body was hot and cold. It would get so hot. My temperature got up to 103.8. And they had to bring it down.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And then it would go up to 103.8 again. I couldn't move. My body was aching. Literally, the second night I was there. And I know this is the wrong thing to think, but if they had a jack button on life, I may have hit it. I was in that much pain like that. I couldn't even think clearly. I can't put into words how bad it was for me.
Starting point is 00:08:02 So your head, your body, everything. Everything. Where you just want it to be over. It's either you're going to make it. And it was so bad where you want to think about your family. But I was in so much pain. You know, I thought about them, but it was I can't make it. This is this is the end. And I can't see my family because they already told me that no one can come into the hospital.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And I'm texting my wife lying to her saying, hey, babe, I'm gonna make it through. I'm gonna make it through where I'm talking to my parents going, this may not go well. You know, and my parents, the first thing I texted my parents is I'm scared. I've never texted them something like that. And they knew how serious it was. And I said, look, Claire's my wife, Claire is at home with the two kids. I can't let her worry about this. You know, she was already stressed out enough. She saw enough, you know, so I'm in there and the doctor says that no one can come see you. So I'm going, if these are the last two days of my life, I'm going to die alone in this hospital.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And it just broke me up so bad that, you know, I've taken care of myself. I've done everything I can, you know, to take care of myself. And why am I lying in this bed right now? You know, and it was a thing where when I did think about my wife, it was, I will never see my wife and two kids again. You know, that's all that went through my mind. Did they put you on a ventilator? No. My doctor saved my life.
Starting point is 00:09:37 My doctor said, if we put you on a ventilator, he said, because the nurse brought her up, should we put him on a ventilator? And he goes, no way. If we put him on a ventilator, he's going to die because his body is going to say, okay, this machine is breathing for us. We don't need to work anymore. And your body shuts down. If you heard in New York, 80% of people put on ventilators die. And that's why you think? I think that's why I survived. I've heard that.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I've heard that being speculated by other doctors as well. And it's very controversial because so many doctors put people on ventilators. And the last thing they want to hear is another doctor saying, you've put someone on a ventilator, they'll die. Well, my doctor said that straight up in the room in front of me to the nurses. Like if we put him on it, he's going to die. Because his thing was, it just makes sense why he would. Because now this machine is going to breathe for him so his body's not gonna it's like working out you don't work out a muscle it gets
Starting point is 00:10:30 weak right this machine is doing all your lifting so why would we want to put them on that unless it's it's just we have to put them on it you know but you've heard doctors were putting on people so fast because their oxygen levels were so low. Right. They're like, this is not normal. So we need to do something to get their oxygen level up. I think doctors are like everything else, right? There's really good ones.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Then there's ones that aren't as good. No. It's true. With everything else. With everything. Carpenters. Plumbers. Everything.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Everything. And it's really, I look back, I'm still, now I've become very close to them. And the dude saved my life. Because if I went on a ventilator, bro, I may not be here. Because I was still- If you go on a ventilator, they kind of-
Starting point is 00:11:16 Knock you out. Knock you out. Yeah, you're unconscious. Literally, that machine is doing all your breathing. So what did they give you? What kind of medication did they give you while you were out? I'm healthy. Don't drink.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Don't do drugs. I was the perfect test subject. Maybe that's a problem. Your body's not used to fighting all that bullshit. Maybe if you got a party all the time, your body's like, well, we know how to recover. This motherfucker went on a bender. Listen to this. I gave it to my mom.
Starting point is 00:11:48 So she gets home. She didn't tell me while I was in the hospital. She beat it in one day and she talks shit to me now. Oh, see, I beat it in one day. I have one fever. You take eight days in ICU. And then she tells me, oh, it's because you're too healthy. You need carbs.
Starting point is 00:12:04 You need carbs? That's hilarious. Now she's me, oh, it's because you're too healthy. You need carbs. You need carbs? That's hilarious. Now she's a doctor. Now she's a doctor. But I gave it to my mom. She beat him one day. But. Well, she probably wasn't run down.
Starting point is 00:12:13 No. Dude, run down is the thing, man. You know, look, I'm a guy. I take a lot of vitamins. I work out a lot. I get in the sauna every day. But I just flew back from Florida. I saw you.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Flew to Florida and came back. Yesterday, I felt like dog shit. And just from the flight, man. Just from the, and it's one day. So I scheduled an IV vitamin drip. I had the vitamin drip people come to my house, hit me with glutathione, zinc, vitamin C, everything. And I felt better almost immediately. Yeah, you got to take care of yourself.
Starting point is 00:12:44 You got to take care of yourself and got to yeah how I don't want to get off me but like how how was that spacing at this venue for you during the fight because because it sounded like y'all were next to each other and then I heard like in a story y'all were separated we were about as far as uh Jamie is about as far as John Anik was and then DC was like a little further than that because there was a separation there's a uh like the octagon post. And so for him to get a better angle, he couldn't be sitting right in front of the post.
Starting point is 00:13:09 So they moved his table like another. He was probably 15, 20 feet from me, somewhere around that range. Were people, do you feel that, I feel like fighters, you know, fighters are tough. And I feel like the audience is tough too and the people associated with it is tough. Did they move around freely or was it really like oh I need to stay away from you or
Starting point is 00:13:29 here's the deal everyone was tested everyone in fact one guy tested positive he was asymptomatic who was on the card yep and uh he had an inkling that he might test positive because he had a family member that had it. And he was super healthy, ready to fight, but had it in his system. And so they removed him from the card and he had been wearing a mask and gloves the entire time he was there. And everyone else had wristbands on. The wristbands showed that you'd been tested. They had temperature monitors. They had all these different things, but everybody had been tested thoroughly, tested for antibodies, tested for the swab. I got the swab up the nose.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I got everything done. And then when I got home, I immediately got swabbed again. I got a swab yesterday, and then I got the vitamin drip and everything like that. Oh, wow. But I didn't get much sleep Saturday night because I was flying back 8 o'clock in the morning. Fights were done. I was back at my o'clock in the morning fights were done I was back in my hotel around 2 30 so I crashed woke up early got to the airport took off landed and then just kind of took it easy yesterday but until I got
Starting point is 00:14:36 the vitamin drip I was dragging I was feeling but and that's what happens when you fly and you had flown a couple of times in a short period of time and then that drive to Vegas. All that stuff, you have to think of your immune system like troops. You know, you really do. If there's a battle to be fought, look, if your body was like your mom's, where you had a good night's sleep every night, no traveling, you can fight off a lot more shit.
Starting point is 00:15:01 But when you do those trips, especially this is one thing that I'm getting out of this quarantine is, man, I feel so much better when I don't travel. Oh yeah. So much better. When I wasn't dying. I feel great. I feel great now. I feel great now. Yeah. Rest is a big thing. It's everything. It's everything. And you know, I'm going to change my travel schedule in the future. Because even this trip, this trip I wanted to just get in and get the fuck out of Florida and get back home. And, you know, but then after I did it, I was like, it would have been wiser if I left at like 6 p.m. or something like that. Just kind of chill out. Give myself plenty of time to sleep.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Sleep so I'm fully recovered. And then, you know, have some breakfast. Then go to the airport, you know, take a 3 p.m. flight or some shit. How was it with nobody in there? Did you enjoy the experience? Well, I wanted to do it because I've never done that before, and I watched the one card from Brazil. They had Kevin Lee versus Charles Oliveira fought in Brazil,
Starting point is 00:16:00 and I watched it on TV, and I was like, God, that's so strange. Because Gilbert Burns, he knocked out Damian Maia, and then he yells out, poha, you know, something Brazilian said. And he yells out, poha! And you hear it like echo in this empty arena. And while I was watching, I'm like, that's so strange. He's screaming, and there's no one there. There's no audience reaction.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I'm like, wow. So I decided, like, I got to do one. So when Dana White asked me if I wanted to audience reaction. I'm like, wow. So I decided I got to do one. So when Dana White asked me if I wanted to do it, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to do one. I definitely want to do one. Do you feel like the fighters were listening to y'all? They 100% were. They made adjustments because of things that DC said.
Starting point is 00:16:38 So Cormier, we're all right next to each other. So y'all were that close? Oh, yeah. We're at the octagon. OK. We're still at the octagon. We're right in front of the octagon. Okay. We're still at the octagon. We're right in front of the octagon. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I could reach up and touch the octagon. So when, well, it's actually a little bit further than we usually are, but still. Close enough. Empty arena. Like where that wall is. Oh, okay. That's where the octagon is. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Pretty close. And, you know, DC's giving them points. He's like, pointers. He's saying, you's saying he's gotta check those leg kicks and the guys making adjustments like he was talking
Starting point is 00:17:10 about Carlos Barza and Carlos Barza backstage gave DC credit for like what the advice that he was saying
Starting point is 00:17:18 in the commentary was the adjustments that she'd made that's great yeah it was weird I loved watching like I watched the prelims but I loved it because you could hear everything. Because normally it's so loud.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Yeah. But when somebody hits somebody, it's in the face, you could hear it. But especially to the body. Yeah. Oh, my. It was like a thump. Yeah. And then you hear the other person.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Yeah. It changed the game for me on UFC where I think a lot of people appreciated more with not having a crowd yell, where you really get to feel the pain. Because when it's loud, you don't, you see somebody fall, but you don't really, okay. But when you hear it. Yeah. There's different things going on, right? It's like, there's the energy of the crowd. That's a factor.
Starting point is 00:18:07 That's a real thing. Like there's something magical about a wild finish in front of a packed house at the T-Mobile Arena. Oh, yeah. Everybody's screaming and cheering like, wow. Or like when Conor McGregor walks to the octagon and everybody's going crazy. There's something to that. It's valuable. But there's also something to just the spectacle of Tony
Starting point is 00:18:27 Ferguson and Justin Gaethje just going at it. I mean, like wild five round slugfest with no audience. Do you think that fight would have been different if a crowd was there? No. No. No. I don't think so. Maybe. But I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:18:44 It's possible. I think Justin had a game plan, and he executed it brilliantly. And I think Ferguson, he's always going to be Tony Ferguson. He's one of the toughest men that's ever walked the face of the earth. But I think he was preparing for a grappler. He's preparing for Khabib Nurmagomedov, and that fight didn't take place. It was supposed to take place in April. So he had been preparing for Khabib Nurmagomedov, and that fight didn't take place. It was supposed to take place in April. So he had been training for Khabib.
Starting point is 00:19:08 By the way, this is the fifth time that fight was canceled. The fifth time the fight with Tony and Khabib was canceled. So Tony's been training for Khabib for fucking years, right? So he's ready for this elite grappler who takes everybody down and smashes them. He's thinking of cutting them from the bottom. He's thinking of submitting them and scrambling and getting leg locks and all these different things that he's thinking of. And then he's fighting an all-American wrestler who does not want to go to the ground, who has nasty striking. So it's a totally different game plan. And he has to make an
Starting point is 00:19:34 adjustment over a period of just a few weeks. And so Justin's fight is, I mean, Justin always fights the same way. So Justin's adjustments weren't nearly as big as Tony's. Tony had to make some big adjustments. But Justin just fought a masterpiece. The way he fought was just magnificent. And he listened to his coaches so well. There was a point during the fight where Trevor Whitman is telling him, you're hitting him too hard.
Starting point is 00:19:57 You're swinging for the bleachers. Just take about 10% off your punches. Hit him with good, clean shots. And he immediately made that adjustment. And then his cardio leveled out because he was getting tired towards the end of the second. And because he was just throwing just bombs. Every shot he was trying to take Tony Ferguson's head off. But you can't knock Tony out with one shot. He's inhumanly tough. Inhumanly tough. So Justin backs it off a little bit and just is throwing clean shots and then winds up just dominating him, and then they stop it in the fifth round. What's the one thing you learned?
Starting point is 00:20:29 Like, was there something you took away from this experience that you didn't take away from any other fight? It was interesting. It was interesting. I felt very, very fortunate to be there. I'm like, out of all the people that could be here to watch one of the greatest fights of all time, I felt super fortunate that I was one of those people that got to be there.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I felt real fortunate for that. Everything about it, I was taken in the moment and just really cherishing it. I'm like, wow, this is amazing. Not a lot of people get to do this. Not a lot of people get to experience this. Not a lot of people get to do commentary for the UFC, period, but to do commentary for championship fights in this arena where there's no one there.
Starting point is 00:21:07 So we're in a 15,000-seat arena, and there's maybe 10 people in the audience. So why did they need an arena that big? We were talking about that. We're like, why can't we do this? We could have done this in the hotel. We could have got a conference room and set up an octagon in there, like literally. Yeah, I was wondering why they did that. But is it a spectacle
Starting point is 00:21:25 of having a big arena just to say you did it i think there's something to that to letting everybody know hey these these are strange strange times you know we're in the middle of this uh health crisis and so this is the response to this health crisis we're going to do this shit in this arena but would you do it again because you said you wanted to do one, but it seemed like you didn't mind it. I enjoy it. Well, I mean, I love calling fights. And I think as long as I take the right precautions, I'm tested a lot, and I'm keeping my immune system in check and making sure that I don't do anything that wears me out. And I did kind of fuck that up by flying home with just a few hours sleep on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:22:05 But I took care of myself on Sunday and just hung around with the family and we you know didn't do much just went on a hike and hung out and enjoyed the the summer and enjoyed the the weather rather it's beautiful weather out here right now it's not quite summer yet but spring but uh I think as long as you do that I think you can be okay. I think when you put yourself in a position like yourself, when you warn yourself out, or if you have a compromised immune system. This is my thought, and this is from talking to numerous doctors, including my own personal doctor, who's very critical. My personal doctor is very critical about the way we're handling this crisis. What's he say my sense the most important thing is education on how to keep your immune system healthy it's like this is something that you're not hearing
Starting point is 00:22:54 everything is social distancing everything is cover your mouth everything is use hand sanitizer he goes that's wonderful because that's all good stuff but we need education on how to keep your immune system strong we need education on to i have dr ronda patrick coming in later this week to try to uh school people on what the actual clinical tests the actual uh real knowledge of what we really understand about the immune system and supplementation and heat shock proteins, cold shock proteins, all the different various methods that we know are actually legitimately provably effective. I think it's interesting how all these different facts are coming out.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Because when I was at the beginning of it, but I've heard from so many, after I went through this, and big shout out to your fan base, because they reached out to me and showed me so much love when I was in the hospital and I just got out. And that means so much to me when they reached out. It was really all love.
Starting point is 00:23:53 But so many doctors reached out to me too and said there's so much misinformation out there. And I texted you about one that people should know about. When people get out of the hospital with Corona, like there's no magical time. They're saying 14 days. Literally, when I got out the hospital, I was in the hospital for eight days. The last three days, I didn't have a fever, so they let
Starting point is 00:24:15 me go. They said seven days, six days after that, I would be fine. But another doctor told me, look, after you're cleared, after 14 days, people still have Corona. They're taking the chance that it's not contagious. And that's why hospitals don't test people. And he said that this is why hospitals don't test people before they let them go is because they know they still got Corona. But hopefully it's not contagious. So that's why they never test, because if they did, that means people got to stay there two to three weeks longer. And that's the real reason.
Starting point is 00:24:49 He says we would never. Can you imagine when New York was going through that like really bad? I mean, they're still going through it. But when it was at its peak, if they tested everybody that left, most of those people would still have Corona. So that would back up the system even more. And then insurance has to pay for an extra three weeks. So I learned that. I learned that my other doctor said this whole pre-existing conditions is bullshit.
Starting point is 00:25:15 He goes, you came in. He says, this is how much bullshit it is. You came in. If I would have died in a hospital, they would have said my pre-existing condition was migraines. They would have gone down. Right, but there are some pre-existing conditions that weaken your immune system, like obesity, diabetes. There's a bunch of them that they're saying in New York are the primary factors of the people that wind up having a really hard time with this. Well, he's saying, though, they're using that pre-existing conditions, and I say it in quotes, to let healthy or other people almost like, oh, well, if you don't have this pre-existing
Starting point is 00:25:53 condition, you're going to be fine. But it's not true. He's like, they're using it to calm people down. He goes, it's not true at all. He says, I see people that are fine, just like you, Mike. I see people that do have pre-existing conditions. I see the whole gamut. It's not just people with pre-existing conditions, but they're finding those people and highlighting those. And he's even at, they're even adding deaths to that pre-existing conditions total because they need some-
Starting point is 00:26:19 What do you mean deaths to the pre-existing? For instance, like mine. If my pre-existing condition, he said, if I were to die in that hospital, he says, oh, well, he had migraines in his past. So they would have put that down as a pre-existing condition. Well, how often do you get migraines? I mean, ever since I was a kid, but... Really? Well, I play college
Starting point is 00:26:40 football for the University of Arkansas. I got so many concussions, I couldn't play anymore. So, and this was before the whole concussion thing. So my mom made me quit. She was like, you're not playing anymore. So it was a thing where, but it wasn't a condition. I have them once every, I have one every five, six months, maybe.
Starting point is 00:27:00 But he says, what you come in with, since I had migraines, and they didn't know my history of migraines. But he goes, we would have had to say that was a preexisting condition. I haven't heard that preexisting condition being migraines, but I have heard diabetes is a giant factor. Obesity is a giant factor. Emphysema. People smoke cigarettes. But then there was an article recently, something I got super suspicious and I didn't even read the article. It was an article that said that nicotine may help people with coronavirus. And I was like, that's the fucking cigarette industry. Did you ever see the documentary Merchants of Doubt? No. It's a great documentary. What's it about? It's about
Starting point is 00:27:38 people that are hired to go on shows and put doubt into people's minds about certain things That would benefit an industry so these guys They originally started out the same and the documentary shows the same people would go on these talk shows talk about cigarettes Marble cigarettes are not addictive. This is this is not the Marble man These are people that are they're posing like experts and they're on these stupid fucking talk shows on CNN and stuff where you have three windows. And then there's Anderson Cooper and there's a person to his left and a person to his right. And the guy on the right is like, cigarettes are not addictive. It's been proven.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And he's just rattling it off. And then you see that same guy later in the documentary, many years later, talking about climate change. It's the same thing. Talking about climate change is a myth. It's just a natural cycle of the earth. Human beings have nothing to do with it. And it's literally the same human being doing the same thing. But we see that in politics.
Starting point is 00:28:37 It's all spin. Right. But this is what I'm saying when I read something about nicotine being good for people that have the coronavirus. I'm like, come on, cigarette industry. Are you motherfuckers involved in this? It's like, who's running tests on, let's try morphine. Let's see how heroin works on these people. What about coke?
Starting point is 00:28:59 Give them cocaine. You know what's crazy about morphine is my migraine was so bad in the hospital, they came in and go, we're going to give you morphine and we'll knock it right out. While you had Corona? Yes. Oh, Jesus. Like I said, they gave me everything, dude. They gave you morphine while you had Corona? So they gave it to me to get rid of it because my head was so bad.
Starting point is 00:29:17 It really felt like I was going to- It accentuated your migraines. So the coronavirus accentuated those migraines. It was so bad, Joe. I can't even put it into words. So when you're talking about the pain that you had, you had body pain and then your migraines on top of that. Yes. So you're just an agate.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And hot, cold, everything. So they gave me morphine. They go, this knocks out any headache. It worked for five seconds. Five seconds. Five seconds. And they looked at me and they go, how you feel now? I was like, terrible.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It feels the same. Five seconds. Five seconds. And they looked at me and they go, how you feel now? I was like, terrible. It feels the same. Then about two hours later, they came back and gave me more because I think they only can do it every two hours. And then you see elves.
Starting point is 00:29:53 You see any elves? No, but I got really hot. I got really hot. I was like, I can't do this anymore. So they had to stop giving it to me. This is how I was a test subject. And I don't mind because I'm living. But hydroxychloroquine, that was big at the time.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I'm watching this on the news. Literally, the president says, try hydroxychloroquine. All the doctors are, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no. They come in with it. You're in bed. I'm in bed. This is my first day. They come in with it.'m watching news and they're
Starting point is 00:30:26 talking about it they come in as like what are you giving me oh hydroxychloroquine so they give it to me then two hours later they come in i go what are you giving me oh the hiv drug so now they put two drugs in me and then they're pumping all kinds of shit at me i don't even know what they're giving so they're trying things they're trying things on me because they don't know they don't know that's what's so crazy right this is not like pneumonia where people have had it for a hundred years or a thousand years. They don't know. This is a new thing. So a day and a half goes by. I'm in probably worse pain. They take me off of hydroxychloroquine and I go, this is after, um, like weeks after I got out of hospital, go, why'd you take me off? He goes, where your body was at that time, it couldn't handle it.
Starting point is 00:31:09 It was not a good fit. So we had to take you off. So I must've got worse overnight and I'm just guessing here, but they must've saw something get worse. My lungs were still filling up with fluid. So they kept me on the HIV drug and whatever else they were giving to me. But it was, it's like, I still have fluid in my lungs. They said it would take 12 weeks.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Yeah. Yeah. How many weeks have you been out now? Eight. Wow. And I'm so weak. Literally, I just, they just approved, I am like, they just approved me to start working out last week so i did my first lift society class online and i could like usually i could do like 10 to 15 pull-ups each set i could do two two pull-ups
Starting point is 00:31:52 and i'm just weak like i still get winded like when i talk a lot i'll get winded and i'll just have to catch my breath wow like an old an old man. I'm telling you. Wow. Like for me, people win it real bad. It's just not, oh, you're over it and you can move on. You got to build back into it. It's like rebuilding your body and your mind. You know? Did they recommend anything as far as supplements or anything along those lines?
Starting point is 00:32:20 No. Nothing. He says it's just rest. Well, he's basically done his job right it's like motherfucker you're alive figure this shit out on your own right we'll get strong and literally i was the first person there and then by the time i left eight days later that place was filled with people that's how fast it happened wow that's how fast it happened and i saw people like tap it out you know i didn't see it but i saw saw, you know, the bodies past the line.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And I'm like, wow. How many people died while you were there? I saw one. And that's when it really hit me that. And I got close to a nurse. I go, did they get to see it? He goes, no. They died in there alone.
Starting point is 00:32:59 They tried to FaceTime. Can you imagine? Yeah. And then you see the stories, walkie-talkies. They're talking about walkie-talkies. They're talking about phone. They're talking,
Starting point is 00:33:19 trying to FaceTime. I don't care if I like you or if I like you. That's no way to die by yourself. No. Not today. And it's a thing where I just want people to know, look, they're opening up the country.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And I get it. I get the other side, too. That's why I get that people got to work. People got to get their lives back. But you need to be safe. You need to be safe because it's a thing like if President Trump comes out and goes, hey, we're going to do herd immunity, you know, you're prepared for that. But right now we don't know what to expect. We've gone from 60,000 deaths.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Now they're saying it's going to be 137,000. Like what's going on? You know, we only know what they tell us you know but i'm finding out there's so much more stuff we don't know because they don't know right now you're finding out that kids like a very small amount of kids are getting it you know and i don't understand the whole thing about just not being careful or safe because it's not about you. It's about other people like these, like the whole thing about, well,
Starting point is 00:34:27 you know, a lot of blacks and Hispanics are getting it, you know? Yeah. Because they're working at all these essential jobs. They're at your grocery stores. They're, they're,
Starting point is 00:34:35 they're doing the jobs that a lot of people don't do. Well, anybody that's in poverty as well, you're working those essential jobs, but on top of that, you're probably not eating well. Exactly. Yeah. That's a, that's a real problem. It goes hand in hand. Oh yeah. You're working those essential jobs, but on top of that, you're probably not eating well. Exactly. That's a real problem. It goes hand in hand.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Oh, yeah. Their whole thing, if you can get a whole meal, two burgers and two fries and two Cokes for $3.99, it's a problem with that food. Right. Good point. It's making you sick. But that's all you can afford. Right. You know?
Starting point is 00:35:05 Yeah, it is crazy that the cheapest food is the worst for you and the most fattening. But that's the one that you go to because you can't afford anything else. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and then you're getting, you know, I'm getting stories about, you know, like I have a bunch of Asian friends and they're getting bullied. Like it's, it's so terrible.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Like there was a story in Texas, a dude stabbed a guy and his two kids, two and six. Yes. It happened a couple months ago. He stabbed a two year old? Two year old, six year old in the, in the guy because he thought they were Chinese. Wait, so this was in Texas? In Texas at a Sam's wholesale club. What?
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yes. It's people are going nuts over this thing. You know, like we're all in this together, but you don't need to take it just because even if he was Chinese, like he's an American, probably, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:00 he didn't bring it over here. Even if he was Chinese from China, he's not the person who made the fucking disease. That's me two-year-old and a six-year-old yeah a two-year-old and six-year-old like I just feel like this whole time right now is giving people and it's a very small group of people yeah you know and that's why I hate when certain people go white people like, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:36:26 no. It's a very small number of white people doing it. I hate when people generalize a group, like even the whole Michigan thing. So open carry state, they showed up at this lady's office, you know, the governor's,
Starting point is 00:36:39 the governor's office. They were carrying the rifles. They were protesting, which they had every right to. And people go, I'll hear people or you see it at social media well these white people don't no no no no there's 356 million people in the united states is it that many now isn't it i believe so jesus christ i believe so there's only 700 people there yeah you know and probably a third of them just
Starting point is 00:37:03 wanted to protest to get their jobs back just to go back to work. Yeah. So you can't generalize people and you can't hate on people because of where they're from. Well, you can hate on people that are so fucking dumb. They bring guns to the governor's house. Like what? That is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Like, what are you doing? I agree. Are you trying to take over the governor? Like, what are you doing? Like, why are you bringing guns? Are you expecting a war? Are you going hunting? Like, what are you doing like why are you bringing guns are you expecting a war are you going hunting like what are you doing why are you bringing fucking guns that's that's some weird shit when people do that when they they protest with like fucking kalishnikovs and shit
Starting point is 00:37:35 like what are you doing like why do you have a rifle there was a guy it was a clip i saw a guy was like a white guy to a white guy was like hey hey, I want my job back too, but why the gun? And the guy was like, it just walked away. It doesn't make, if you're protesting. Well, that's the thing about the Second Amendment. And I'm a pro Second Amendment man. I believe in it. I think it's important.
Starting point is 00:37:58 But there's a lot of dumb motherfuckers out there. There's a lot of dumb, dumb motherfuckers out there. And they get to have guns too. I mean, I support that in a lot of dumb, dumb motherfuckers out there, and they get to have guns too. I mean, I support that in a lot of ways. I have to support that if I support the Second Amendment. But at a certain point in time, you gotta go, why the fuck are you bringing a gun
Starting point is 00:38:15 to Sam's Club? Why do you have a fucking AK around your waist when you're walking through the aisles looking for toilet paper? Like, what are you doing? It's amazing how... but let's be honest, they're giving a pass. You got a USA pass right now to act like that. Sort of. Well, no, I mean, you do.
Starting point is 00:38:38 What do you mean? Well, because the president's like, those are fine people. Is that what he's saying though? Yeah. When is he saying that? He said that the other day. He goes, those are good people that Is that what he's saying though? Yeah. When is he saying that? He said that the other day. He goes, those are good people that were protesting. With the guns?
Starting point is 00:38:48 With the guns. Those are good people. It's just, it's a stupid thing to protest with guns. Like, one of the nice things about this country is that we can protest. Absolutely. That's a nice thing. It's beautiful. It's important.
Starting point is 00:39:03 This is one of the things that's been infringed upon by this whole lockdown thing where people, you know, they're being told they're not allowed to assemble. It's a gigantic part of who we are, the ability to assemble, the ability to protest. that's just what they're doing. When you're showing up with guns, you're letting them know that you're ready to take over. You're ready to do something. You might shoot somebody. You know, you might, if you're threatened, you might use these guns.
Starting point is 00:39:36 It's like, okay, if we're in that, you're escalating way past where we're at. You know, if you're in a situation where someone's saying, hey, your family has to starve to death. Hey, you have to stay home. Hey, I don't give a fuck about you. Okay, then I understand why you want to show that you have guns. And you get a bunch of people together and go, hey, we need to stay alive here.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And we are, our rights are being infringed upon. But that's not what's going on. But if you go back to the backstory, you find out, I don't know all the facts, but i know these people that showed up to this rally they didn't put on that rally it was by another organization through through facebook or through some social media outlet that put it together and they told you people to bring their guns and no they just told people to protest to show up so see we're all there we're all pawns in this at some point to this political game. So how can you make, this is what's amazing to me. How, we're in a place where they can put wearing a mask and make that political.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Yeah. Like that's where we are today. 80,000 deaths and now it's political if you wear a mask. I don't understand. What do you mean it's political if you wear a mask? Well, I mean, most of the people that don't wear masks are these, oh, I'm a Trumper. Like, this is what we're seeing on TV. What I'm saying is what we're being shown on TV.
Starting point is 00:40:54 And that's where most of the people get their information. You know, like from the news or, oh, so these people are not wearing their mask. Oh, they got to be Republican, not wearing a mask. Oh, we need more testing. If you hear we need more testing, oh, they must be liberal. They want to test. Like we've made a disease that's killing thousands, thousands, 80,000, and could be up way over 120,000 political.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Instead of it being, hey, let's all get through this. Now it's political. Well, we do that with everything. We do. Yeah. And that's a problem. Well, we like to, I mean, that's one of the problems with having just two parties in this country and having liberal and conservative, which is crazy because there's a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:41:39 myself included, that float in between both of those. I do too. I'm very liberal, but I'm also very pro-gun. But why can't you be liberal and pro-gun? You can be, and I am. But I don't understand why, if a Democrat says something nice about a Republican, oh, he's not a Democrat.
Starting point is 00:41:57 If a Republican says something nice about a Democrat, oh, I agree with what they said. Oh, no, you can't be a Republican. Well, if you go on Fox News and you're a liberal, people will shame you and get angry at you for using that platform. And I've seen it even with presidential candidates like Tulsi Gabbard and even Bernie Sanders. I think that we're in a weird place in this country where it's easy to adopt a predetermined pattern of behavior, a conglomeration of ideas, whether those ideas be conservative or liberal. And the real problem is these people that adopt these ideas, oftentimes they sink into
Starting point is 00:42:32 these ideas because they're comfortable. It's easy to get, say if you decide people in your neighborhood are conservative, I'm going to be conservative too because that's going to make them like me more. And I'm going to say the things they want to hear. And, you know, well, I trust in God. I trust in God too. And they say these things so that people will like you more and then you'll fit in your community better. And it just, it's a signal to the people around you that you're complying with the group ideology. And that is more of, underlying with the group ideology. And that's more of the case than people simply rationally and objectively going over these ideas. There's certain people that decide they don't want gay folks to be married simply because people around them have decided
Starting point is 00:43:19 that they don't want gay folks to be married. And marriage is supposed to be between a man and a woman, and you can't tell me any different and the Bible says and this and that and like and I agree. And if you agree with that community will accept you. But if you are a person who goes, hey, Bob, why do you give a fuck? You know, if two men are in love with each other, like they clearly they're not pretending like I don't care if obviously I have tattoos everywhere, right? I don't care if you want to get tattooed.
Starting point is 00:43:44 If you want to get tattooed, get tattooed. If you want to be like fucking Takeshi69, that dipshit, and cover your face with flowers, I don't care. You do what you want to do. And let's be honest, 20 years ago, tattoos, that was like, oh, you're a bad boy, or you're some kind of bad person. Right, you're like some crazy sailor or something. Yeah. person right you're like some crazy sailor or something yeah but some some people will look at
Starting point is 00:44:07 other people's choices that don't affect them at all and decide that somehow or another it's an affront to their values like if two men are in love with each other and they decide to get married somehow or another that affects you i don't understand how it affects you any more than i understand someone wearing shorts versus pants affects you or someone driving a red car versus a black car. It's nonsense. It's not your life. If somehow or another people being in love, a man being in love with a man and marrying a man or being with a man and living and you know having a relationship, if somehow or another that like killed all the trees you know i'm saying and
Starting point is 00:44:45 like caused gas prices to spike and then you have a case yeah and fucking all of a sudden there was something wrong but that's not the case no so what the fuck do you care so as a person who believes in liberty um i feel like you hear all these republicans that talk about liberally and you know i believe in liberty and i believe that well that's liberty motherfucker yeah motherfucker letting someone do what they want to do that's liberty it's not like gay is uh it's this idea that somehow or another it's not a real thing two things on god and religion i think religion is looking really bad right now. You know, if you believe that's great, but it's looking really bad because you're contradicting
Starting point is 00:45:29 yourself all over the place. Let me stop you right there. This is the same as you saying white people. When you say religion is looking really bad, that's the same as saying white people look really bad. It's a giant generalization. You're true. Very true. And I take that back. Some religious people are looking very bad right now. But do you know why? Because You're true. Very true. And I take that back. Some religious people are looking very bad right now. But do you know why? Because they're scared. But how can you look? How are they looking bad?
Starting point is 00:45:52 In what way? Well, I'm saying, for instance, God, I hate to make this political because I'm not that dude. I stay away from him. Too late. Too late. But Trump, for instance. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Let's look at his past. Let's look at, there's proof of him lying pretty much every day. So for religious groups to support this man, you're contradicting your whole. Yeah, I think that falls into what we were talking about earlier. This political ideology that like he is with us. You know, he is against us. He is against abortion. He is against certain things. He's actually pro-gay.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Donald Trump is... One of the weird things about Trump is before he ran for president, he was universally liked. Oh, rappers used to talk about him in their songs all the time? Well, he was always on talk shows and he would go on Letterman and shit
Starting point is 00:46:44 and he would even go on those talk shows and talk shit about Rosie O'Donnell and people thought it was funny. And now it's horrendous. It's like the same things that he has always done. Now, when you're in a position of being the president, you're supposed to be a different person. But you don't feel there's a contradiction with churches right now? Oh, well, certainly with people that are, look, there's a lot. Some churches, excuse me. Let me rephrase that. Some people at some churches. There's a lot of people that will support values that are contrary to what they're supposedly believe in if that aids them politically, if it helps them. Look, there's a lot of churches
Starting point is 00:47:19 that make a lot of money and then they don't pay taxes. That, to me, is one of the most offensive things about religion. The idea that Joel Osteen should have a giant arena and fly around in private jets and live in a castle, live in the mansions, or that, what's that other guy? The fucking, the, the, COVID be gone! What's that guy's name again? Kenneth Copeland. That motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:47:44 That guy has got, you know, he bought Tyler Perry's private jet and shit. He's a baller, right? He's a baller for God. The idea that that guy doesn't pay taxes is offensive. And the idea that he really acts for God, like there should be not just an investigation, but there should be, we should have a trial. We should have a trial. but there should be, we should have a trial. We should have a trial.
Starting point is 00:48:03 We should figure out, okay, is this a violation of the whole idea behind, I don't agree with it at all, period. I don't think that churches should be able to be exempt from taxes. If they get services like we do, if they make exorbitant amounts of money, and we know they do, they should have to pay taxes for sure. I agree with you 100%. But there's real clear evidence that they don't even act in accordance to their own
Starting point is 00:48:31 belief system. There's real clear evidence that they don't even, they're not even people that are really acting like a Christian. So they're not even acting in their own religious ideology, and yet they still don't have to pay taxes. I agree with you 100% and now I was watching TV and they can get a loan or get this tax exempt where
Starting point is 00:48:51 they can get money from the government. Because people aren't coming to the church so they're not getting all that free money. But even though they're not paying taxes anyway. Like my wife was like we were watching TV and she goes that's so horrible a lot of churches are going out of business because my wife is very religious and I go why don't they use all the money they didn't pay on taxes to stay afloat? Because they bought mansions and private jets. They don't have any money left
Starting point is 00:49:10 over, bro. Bro? Leave them alone. They're working for Jesus. They're out there hustling for Jesus. Here's what's interesting to me is my wife, when I made it, everybody reached out and they go, oh, God had your back. And the first thing I thought was, so you're saying God didn't have everybody, all 80,000 people's back? Like that's messed up. That is messed up. That's messed up. Look, I'm a religious person, but I'm a religious person that asks questions. So why are you a religious person? If you're asking questions, how far do you take it? You should be able to ask questions.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Okay. How far do you take it? You're Christian? I believe in God. I don't know a Christian. Like I go to a non-denomination church it's just oh when them hippie churches no it's not hippie oh i get it no no no no it's in burbank it's called south hills what's up oh burbank of course it's hippie it's in burbank but i go to a church where look they they don't believe in hate and all that but it's a thing where I certain people say certain things and when I got all these messages God had your back, God had your back and I'm thinking about the dude I saw rolled out
Starting point is 00:50:12 why didn't God have their back? He jerked off too much. Did he really? That's what I heard. I heard he jerked off thinking about guys too. God's like fuck you You're so wrong. I have no comment on that one. But it's true. It's like, why would God, I mean, why does God let babies die?
Starting point is 00:50:28 Why did God let that little kid get stabbed? The little Asian baby, a two-year-old kid get stabbed. Here's the question that nobody can answer for me. Is that if God gets all the applause for something great happening, should he get all the blame for something bad happening? Because obviously, from what I'm told, look, I'm not a scholar on the Bible, but if something great happens, we all praise him. But we never tend to not praise him or say, we never tend to criticize him when a whole
Starting point is 00:50:58 plane blows up. Or, you know, and that's the only problem with the religion I have. When you say you believe in God, what does that mean to you when you're saying that? Do you say that because it makes you feel better? I feel, this is what I feel, is I feel every type of tribe before us, the ones that had religion or some type of thing they believed in, they survived. The ones that didn't,
Starting point is 00:51:29 they cannibalized each other. I think what religion does is it keeps people afloat and makes them feel like something better is on the other side. And I think it kind of, it's the rule of law. It kind of keeps people on the right track.
Starting point is 00:51:43 If nobody had religion, I feel we would cannibalize each other just from the past we learned from the past it's the same thing like tribes that didn't have anything to believe in they they ate each other up well i feel like we live in a completely different world because the interconnectedness that we experience today didn't exist before. So today we have access to information and to the vast body of work that people have written about philosophy and ethics and morals. And I think we can understand why it's good to be a good person without having to invoke a higher power or some sort of divine spiritual entity that's watching over everything. Before, that wasn't the case. Before, when we were establishing civilization and we were moving from primitive groups that live in tribes, which we all came from. Look, the one thing that we have to take into consideration is that we are here because some people did some really violent shit and they made it through because some other people
Starting point is 00:52:52 were trying to do some violent shit to them. That is why we made it here. We made it here to this day in 2020 because our ancestors were better at violence than the others. That's really the truth. I mean, there's no getting around it. We are a warlike race of beings that have consistently throughout history conquered each other and done awful, terrible things to each other and took over land and took over resources and took over cities and took over women. I mean, this is what people did that got them to this point.
Starting point is 00:53:29 And whatever we needed to get people to act in a more moral or ethical way, whether it's a higher power or whatever it is, to get people from just stomping, just raping and pillaging their way across the world without any repercussions whatsoever, whatever that is, I'm all for it. And it was religion. And you could argue, and I think many people probably successfully have, I'm not really aware of it, but I would imagine, I'm not the first person to bring this up, that religion is in many ways sort of a natural creation of the human mind and the human psyche to try to move us past our primitive tribal monkey tendencies and move us towards some more cooperative way of existing. Yeah, I think what religion gives order, some type of order.
Starting point is 00:54:26 And a lot of people don't want to believe it's over when it's over. Well, you know what order exists when you don't have religion, you have the order of might and that's what you have in China. Okay. In China, you have a religion and the religion is the state. I mean,
Starting point is 00:54:40 that's, I mean, China, people have religion over there, but the reality is what's, what's running China is a dictatorship. It's a military dictatorship. And the king is the ruler. This is what they look towards.
Starting point is 00:54:54 And the state is the ruler and the law of the state. I mean, they do horrible shit to their people over there. And they do this horrible shit openly in front of everyone. And they still run a billion people. there and they do this horrible shit openly in front of everyone and they still run a billion people yeah it's I mean that's just my take on religion but I also know the other side because anytime I support something also look at both sides I'm not just blindly I know religion has caused more wars than anything as well I think people have caused more wars but they're used
Starting point is 00:55:23 religion religion is a nice excuse. You're right. People cause wars, but they're using religion to cause those wars. Well, they're using religion to get, they have in the past used religion to get people to do horrible things. And, you know, this is the argument against fundamentalism, you know, that it exists. I mean, it existed in Christianity in the past, you know, the Inquisition, you can go throughout the history of some horrific things that were done in the name of Christianity, some of the most horrific things ever. But really, it's people doing these things. And if they decide that their religion is enforcing this behavior, then they can justify these things.
Starting point is 00:56:06 And you see this, I mean, it's what you get with cults when, okay, forget about religion. I mean, we can all, whether or not a religion is a cult is, you know, I had a bit about it where, you know, a cult is created by one guy and that guy knows it's bullshit and a religion, that guy's dead. It's like, that's the difference. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:30 So like remember the people, the Heaven's Gate cult? They all wore purple Nikes and they cut their balls off and they killed themselves when the asteroid was coming, whatever the comet was coming. whatever the comment was coming, that was a way where someone used something, this crazy ideology, and got people to do ridiculous shit. And you could say Jonestown was another example of that. That was another cult, and it was where this guy figured out a way to talk these people into poisoning their brothers and sisters and then gunning down federal agents and killing people. And they did it all because he had them convinced that this belief system that he was espousing was accurate and correct. What I don't understand, because like I said, I'm religious, but I ask a lot of questions and I don't believe the bullshit,
Starting point is 00:57:28 a lot of the bullshit. What makes you religious then? I think I just want to believe there's something better and hopefully there's something guiding all of us to a better place after. I want to believe that. I want to believe that. I want to believe that. I want to believe that, you know, if I were to die in that hospital bed, there's something or something, I mean, something or someone looking over my family.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Yeah, I just want to believe in good. Look, I'm all about positivity. I'm all about love. So it's the thing where why not believe in it? It's not going to hurt me believing in it. And if it does happen at the end, great. If you go to a different place, great. Now, I will ask questions along the way.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I will not blindly follow a church or religion. You know, I do investigations. I really look at the people that's involved with that church. What I don't understand is the people that blindly fall into these cults or churches that you just talked about. Like, I don't understand how your mind gets to a place where it's like, no matter what they say, I'm down for it. Well, other people would say, people that are more skeptical than yourself or not interested in religion at all would say, well, we take it one step further. Why would you believe that? Why would you believe that there's some sort of a superpower that you've never seen any evidence of? Some sort of a mythical, mystical power that's looking out for everybody.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Why would you think that when there's no evidence of that? The evidence that we do have is evidence that people in community and, and, and friendship and love, that there's a great benefit to that. And that we feel it, we experience it. Like when, like I saw you today, I gave you a big hug. Yeah. Like there's love, friendship. Absolutely. That's, that's important for us. It means that's real. That means something, but it also means something because I want you to know that if you need But it also means something because I want you to know that if you need me, I'm there. I want you to know this is what friendship is. That's real, but the reality is, is there a God watching? A doctor got killed by wild dogs yesterday in
Starting point is 00:59:40 Georgia. Did you hear about that story? No. Yeah. There's packs of wild dogs. Running through Georgia right now? It's always been an issue. When people let dogs loose and dogs become feral and they don't have food, they stop being pets and they revert towards more wolf-like behavior. I think it was Georgia.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I read it this morning. Can you find that? I'll send it to you if you want. I certainly have it. The only problem I'm seeing is that the doctor was a doctor in Connecticut, I guess. Was it? Well, it says middle Georgia doctor found dead. And then former CT doctor.
Starting point is 01:00:14 I'm sorry. So it's not Connecticut. Yeah. Sorry. Middle Georgia. Yeah. Georgia doctor killed by a pack of wild dogs. I saw CT and thought it was.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Okay. It was in. Yeah. Yeah. So this lady thought it was a lady. What? Yeah. Yeah. So this lady, it was a lady. It's not the first time. I was confusing this. There was a man who was killed by wild dogs in Georgia a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Dr. Nancy Shaw, who was a doctor in Connecticut. And 3 a.m. Thursday, they found her body. Holy shit. Yeah. She was on the wrong side of the road. And fuck. The engine was running. The door was open.
Starting point is 01:00:57 They got out of the patrol car to investigate, found a female that was deceased in the ditch. The autopsy confirmed that she died after being attacked by animals. Police confirmed to the station, which gave the further details. Police are trying to find the roaming beasts. Interesting that they phrased it that way, but that's the New York Post. So roaming beasts? Dogs.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Well, packs of dogs. You know, that is, when you just let dogs loose and they got to. Have you ever had a feral animal? I had a feral cat once. And a friend of mine and her boyfriend were living in this apartment complex. And there was like this thing where these cats got underneath the building and they had kittens. And so she rescued the kittens. She goes, do you want one of these kittens?
Starting point is 01:01:47 Because she knew I had cats. I was like, oh my God, let me, let me see. So I went to her house. These little hissing little fucking balls of fur. I'm like, okay. I'm just laughing at the idea of you having a lot of cats. Yeah. That's funny to me.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I have three cats. I have two now, but I had three at one point in time. So I, um, I take this cat in and it was crazy, man. It was a little baby cat, but I had three at one point in time, so I I take this cat in and it was crazy It was a little baby cat, but it was like Like wild I mean fucking wild like it thought I was definitely gonna kill it need it And then I would pick the cat up and it would start purring like immediately like loud Like so happy and then I put it down Hissing me again This poor thing was wild.
Starting point is 01:02:26 And that cat was wild to the day it died. I was the only one who could touch it. You kept the cat? Yeah, I kept him for years. Wow. My dog killed him. Yeah, he talked some shit to my pit bull. My dog was like, oh really?
Starting point is 01:02:38 Excuse me? Check this out. Yeah, because he would hiss at the dog. And I guess he fucked with the dog one time. The dog's like, why is this goddamn thing in the house? And he kept pissing in the house. So he would piss in the house, especially if he was mad at the dog. He would piss near where the dog slept.
Starting point is 01:02:54 One day, I wasn't home. The dog just took it into his own hands. Where did you find the cat? Oh, no, no, no. I was home, and he killed two cats, that dog. Oh, my God. They were both cunty cats. Oh, my God. They were both cunty cats that got shitty with him.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Pitbulls. This was in my 20s. I was a different man. But this cat, when I had him, I was the only one that could pet him. I was the only one that could touch him. I could go up to him. I'd go, what's up, bro? And I could give him a little pet and then I could pick him up and he would purr. But I was the only one. could touch him. I could go up to him. I'd go, what's up, bro? And I'd give him a little pet, and then I could pick him up, and he would purr.
Starting point is 01:03:27 But I was the only one. But nobody else, huh? Anyone else he saw, he was like, this motherfucker's going to eat me. And he just ran away from him. Yeah. It was weird. Man. But anyway, my point is, I had this other cat that's a ragdoll.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Like, I have two ragdolls now. They're like fluff balls, man. Like, you pick them up, they just go limp. They limp they're domesticated cats like i have a domesticated dog i have a golden retriever you haven't met him yet no sometimes i see i see the walks he's the best he's the sweetest i love him to death like i wake up in the morning i made a video of it because it's so ridiculous like how my morning starts like he waits for me outside the door of my room i open the door and i go bro i go what's up and he just like he runs around in circles he always grabs a toy i was to bring a toy over to me and then i'm petting him he's always like he's moaning in ecstasy wagging his tail runs around in circles he's domesticated
Starting point is 01:04:22 he's just a love bug and he's like this with everybody. If you come over to my house, that's what he's going to do to you. He's going to go, oh, hello! He runs around in circles around you. He wants you to touch him. He'll drop to his belly. He'll drop to his back. He wants you to rub his belly. But that's because of you, too, though. You domesticated him like that.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Yes, for sure. But he's also a golden retriever. Yeah, they're super nice. They're the nicest dogs ever. But he's also a golden retriever. Yeah, they're super nice. They're the nicest dogs ever. But he's domesticated, okay? Wild cats are so different than domesticated cats. It's like a different thing, man. They're so different. He would hiss at anybody that come near him.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Anybody. You come near him. I had to bring him to the veterinarian to get him fixed when he got he got to a certain point he was spraying in the house i'm like this motherfucker because that's what happens yeah so the way i got him i had to lock me and him in the bathroom together and then i had to throw i forget it was like a towel or a blanket or a bathrobe i forget what i threw on him but i threw because this is like a kidnap a blanket or a bathrobe. I forget what I threw on him. It's like a kidnap for real.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, this is 96, somewhere around there. So I throw this fucking blanket on this cat, and then I have to grab him and rest him. And then I stuff him in a hamper, and then I take him with a fucking duct-taped hamper to Dr. Craig, my veterinarian. Okay, why didn't you just get rid of the cat? I loved him, and I felt like he was like me in a lot of ways, that he just didn't have anybody that looked out for him.
Starting point is 01:06:02 He was abandoned. I felt like, in a lot of ways, like, look, I don't know my dad. And because of that, I have this weird thing about taking care of things, taking care of people. I felt like I was a bad, I haven't spoken to my dad since I was seven years old and I knew him before that. So like all my life, I've sort of had this thing like hey that can happen. Well, you could be abandoned and it's one of the reasons why
Starting point is 01:06:30 I've always had this very Liberal and charitable outlook on things even though like a lot of people conserve they'll confuse me with being conservative I'm not very conservative with people because I know that things can go wrong with people. I also know that some people are lazy fucks and they need to go to work. They need to get their ass in gear and stop making fucking excuses. But these are like little mental traps that people have fallen into. And oftentimes they just don't have the right tools. They don't have the right information to sort of make these corrections and adjustments.
Starting point is 01:07:04 So I'm a hard ass in some ways like that. Like some people need to just get their fucking shit together. But I also am charitable in a way like I don't think they understand how to get their shit together. When you see someone who's obese and smoking cigarettes, a lot of that is education and information and just the way their body has, the way their life has gone. And just the way their body has, the way their life has gone, the things that have happened to them outside of their control before they even became a fully formed adult. Just like this poor cat. Yeah. This poor cat didn't ask to be shit out under a fucking apartment building and then have this wild life where it's got to eat rats and shit and try to take care of itself. Well, I also think that even people like me, I'll hear inspiring people and it kind of
Starting point is 01:07:47 kickstarts you. It kicks you in the ass and say, hey, you need to get it going. Like I told you about David Goggins last time I was here. I read his book and posted shit on my mirror and trying to make strides too. But I think we all need that. It's not just lazy people, even people that are out there hustling. Oh, yeah. Sometimes you need that. Oh, I need it. I need it all need that. It's not just lazy people. Even people that are out there hustling. Oh, yes. Sometimes you need that.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Oh, I need it. I need it all the time. Yeah. I'm very fortunate to know people like David or my friend Jocko, Jocko Willink, who's very similar as well. He's got a video that he put up today. Go to Jocko's Instagram, and he puts these up all the time. He gets up at 4.30 in the morning every day.
Starting point is 01:08:25 It seems that's the time. He takes a picture of his watch. For him, up all the time. He gets up at 4.30 in the morning every day. It seems that's the time. He takes a picture of his watch. For him, it's the time. David Goggins, too. 4.30. Does he get up at 4.30, too? 4.30 every morning. Stretches for two hours, and then he hits his run.
Starting point is 01:08:35 He's an animal. But play this. This is Jocko. It's so easy. So easy to put things off. Dripping with sweat. So easy to say, you're going to do it tomorrow. Well, I want you to reprogram your brain
Starting point is 01:08:52 and tell yourself that tomorrow is not a viable option. Tomorrow doesn't work. You do it today. You get it done today. That's what you do. Have a good Monday, y'all. Go get some. Out. That's what you do. Have a good Monday, y'all. Go get some. Out.
Starting point is 01:09:07 That's all you need. You need people like that in the world. I'm going to follow this dude. You should follow that dude. Well, who is he? That's Jocko Willink. He's a former Navy SEAL. Wow.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Who is one of the most inspirational people that I've ever met in my life. And now he writes books on leadership and Brazilian jiu-jitsu, black belt. And every morning, he gets up at 4.30 in the morning, trains, takes a photo of his watch, takes an aftermath photo of puddles of sweat on the ground and the tools he used, and then takes pictures of the sunrise and the sunset, the beach that he earned. He earned his right to go look at that. Wow. I wake up at 4.32 every morning.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Do you? Yeah, I do. But mine would have been like, check out me drinking this matcha latte. Get it, y'all. Well, it takes every kind of people. It does. Yeah, there's a song about that.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Yeah, there's all kinds of people in this world. And it's okay. It's okay to be a soft person. It's okay to be a soft person. It's okay to be a gentle person. You don't have to be this fucking savage like Chaco. But it's something about that Navy SEAL. They're just wired. But it's not for everybody.
Starting point is 01:10:18 No. Most people are going to ring that bell. Most people are not going to do it. Could you have made it? I don't know. I would tell you right now if you ask me, yes. course i would say that yeah i don't know unless you've done it you don't know like in my early 20s i would have loved now if i could go back i would have loved to try to be a navy seal but i guess if you don't have it like if you didn't have that
Starting point is 01:10:41 desire but i just think like whether or not Well, it's whether or not- It's challenging yourself. Yeah. Whether or not you can push yourself past the place that most people quit. That's a big part of what it is. You know? The big part of anything is being able to push, right? When you get discomfort, people just want to back off. They want to stop. It's a thing that we have.
Starting point is 01:11:02 There's a natural inclination to seek comfort. You have to have the mind to push past that. I don't know mentally, you know, if I like I was working so hard because those two days in the hospital when I said if there was that eject button and then your mind just like, no, keep pushing, keep pushing, keep pushing. button and then your mind just like no keep pushing keep pushing keep pushing and after three and a half days finally everything started my lungs and the fluid in my lungs started to settle but it's it's amazing what you learn when you come out of a of a situation like that it's it's what you value like i've totally i'm a changed person now. Like, from that. In what way? And I hate to be cliche, but you appreciate the little things.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Like, I never, I've always been a good guy, a hustler. But just opening my eyes in the morning, it's a different game now. Right. You have a gift. I have a gift. I have a gift. And a lot of your your fans was like hey it wasn't your time you got great things to to accomplish and i really
Starting point is 01:12:11 believe that because i see the death total going up and i go oh i'm not i'm here for a reason and i think when we go through life you'll hit a down point you know, but you need something to get you back on track and say, yo, you're lucky you're still here. You need, like, I've always valued my family. I'm a family guy, but now it's like, oh, you want to go for a swim? Let's go for a swim. You told my son, you want to do this? Let's do this. And I think it kind of lit a fire under my ass where I was, I wasn't coasting. I was, I was doing well,
Starting point is 01:12:46 but I just appreciate everything. And I appreciate people more, you know, because man, when I was laid up in the hospital, I saw comics and different people drop off shit to my house through the ring cam. And you,
Starting point is 01:13:00 I can't tell you how much that meant to me. You know what I mean? Like, like just people going out of their way to way to make sure your family is okay. And even the text, even the DMs, those little things, like when nothing tragic has happened in your life, I don't think you really appreciate it. You're like, okay, that's great. You know, but then when something happens to you and these people don't know you but they're reaching out giving you positive vibes and then people you know really well giving those vibes it means a lot it you don't understand how
Starting point is 01:13:31 much it meant when i was laying in that hospital bed fighting for my life after i got over that hump to read all these positive message from your fans from comedians, from close friends. I mean, it really pushes you to live. You know? The power of word is so much to me now. It expresses something. Yeah. It expresses something that you understand how close you came to losing everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Yeah. I think, look, comfort is is wonderful and civilization is wonderful and love and friendship is all wonderful but i think to really appreciate it you almost have to at least almost have everything taken away or know it can be taken away or know how fortunate you are know how lucky you are i mean we're look man all throughout human history was impossible to take a fucking shower you know I mean to take a hot shower will fuck did that like when did that first start with a hundred years ago when when was it yeah so people been around for what hundreds of thousands of years in this relatively similar form and then like a hundred years ago
Starting point is 01:14:40 someone figured out how to turn that thing. Hot shower. And now this is just the way it's supposed to be. Yeah, dude. I went camping with me and Brian Callen. We went camping in Montana. We did this hunting show back in 2012. And it was freezing out. Fucking cold as shit.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Nine degrees at night. And you're in a sleeping bag and huddled. And then finally after like six or seven days whatever it was we got to billings and uh it was the end of the trip we had a successful trip and then we got to um a uh hotel i took a shower a hot shower and it was like oh it was a bullshit hotel too like wood panel walls just a skanky fucking weirdo hotel ordinarily if i was a comic like working in that town i was like oh look at this shithole i'm staying at yep i'd be like well i guess i'm roughing it here we go but for me it was like heaven i was in that shower like oh
Starting point is 01:15:35 it was so warm the water was so good and to feel that the soap and to get the stink off me because i hadn't washed myself in seven days it's's like, ah, you really appreciate it. You don't appreciate it until you lose it, until it's gone. And I think that struggle is something that too many people are missing. And I like to give myself my own struggle. It's one of the reasons why I work out so hard. Because when I work out hard, not just because it calms me down and it makes it, it, it does whatever vanquishes, whatever demons are inside me through exercise, but also I appreciate
Starting point is 01:16:14 peace because when I push myself, I push myself in a ferocious, horrific way where I'm, I'm fucking exhausted. Like when I'm running hills or I'm hitting the bag or whatever I'm doing, I'm doing it hard, man. So that when it's over, I mean, I'm hands on my knees heaving. And then the rest of the day is beautiful because I made my own bullshit instead of like dealing with like fucking hordes of barbarians coming over the hills or, you know, starving to death or all the real problems that people have dealt with throughout history that have kind of balanced out their perspective.
Starting point is 01:16:52 I create it myself. I think, I think today's society is taking away challenges. Yes. You know, it's not pushing people because it's fine being fine today. Right. You know, there's no, like one thing interesting you said to me last podcast we did, you go, you know, yo, you really never, and you exactly said it, you never been through any struggle because I was telling you, my life has been pretty good.
Starting point is 01:17:14 And you go, what makes you is you would never take away your struggle when you were younger because it made you who you are today. And after going through something like what I went through, it's changed me so much that I know that struggle is going to change the rest of my life. It's even the mentality of myself has already changed. It's like I'm going to take risk. I'm going to – because you never know how long you're going to be here. I know that's cliche, but you really never know. The key is to keep that mentality.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Yes. The problem is for a lot of people, they slip right back into comfort again. They slip right back into the regular life because this close call you had with death, it slips away in your memory. It becomes the thing of the past. It was four years ago or five years ago. And you're like, oh, I'm having a hard time getting motivated. I'm having a hard time getting to the gym.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Oh, I mean, I really like to get my career in order, but God, I mean, sometimes I'm depressed. Sometimes I just feel so blue. I sit around the house. Boo. You're not supposed to make it. And no one wants to say that to those people. But that mentality literally is like if life is this wild rush to the finish line. I'm not sure it is.
Starting point is 01:18:29 But if it was, those people are not supposed to make it. They're not supposed to cross the tape. They're supposed to sit back at mile three and take a nap. And it's also supposed to be a lesson to you, the person who keeps going, to see these lazy bitches that they ruin their life and wind up falling apart and they keep exhibiting this self-destructive behavior. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:18:53 You don't have to do that. You see them do it? Learn from them. Learn from the people that cry for no reason. Learn from the people that fall apart. Learn from the people that don't know how to pick themselves up and keep going. But you can't say that out loud today. You get attacked.
Starting point is 01:19:05 I can. Well, you can. You can too. More people need to say it. But you're so right. Like the people. Who's attacking? Who's attacking?
Starting point is 01:19:13 Those people. The people on the sidelines. The people that sit down. The woo-hoo. Yeah, it's true. Who are you, Michael? You don't even know, Michael Yo. I get depressed.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Look. I think some people have real problems mentally. They have real issues, some people. Some people. But some people- Are lazy fucks. Fucks, and use it as an excuse. A lot of people.
Starting point is 01:19:33 I think there's way more of those. Because there's a natural inclination to do that. And to deny that natural inclination to do that is to exhibit a ridiculous lack of understanding about human nature because that's what people do. We know that. This is, you'd be, it's either willful ignorance or you're purposely lying so that you fit in the group. The same way we were talking about earlier about ideologies that people slip into because
Starting point is 01:20:03 it gives you comfort. earlier about ideologies that people slip into because it gives you comfort this is like when people like there was a there was a video recently where a were a article recently rather where Adele lost a lot of weight and all these why do people celebrate that I was so pissed off about that it's the people that celebrate it or yeah no people that celebrated her weight loss it's like these are the same people are like you look good no matter what size you are I'm like so like interesting perspective that that are like, you look good no matter what size you are. I'm like, so.
Starting point is 01:20:27 That's an interesting perspective. That's not what I was saying though. No, but what I'm saying is to me, the celebrity audience that celebrated her losing the weight was saying people that say you should feel great no matter what size you are. I think it sent out the wrong message. Well, I think it's great to lose weight because when you lose weight, you get healthy. But there was a lot of people that were saying that we shouldn't do that because one thing that I read that was hilarious was saying that it's actually fat phobic to celebrate her weight loss because we don't know what she's going through. She might actually be going through a hard time right now because she just got divorced. And maybe that's why she's losing weight because she's not doing well and she's ill.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Or she works out and doesn't eat cake. Like my whole thing is if you're going to – I just hate people. And this is a lot of celebrities and this is a lot of – it's like no matter what size you are, we love you. Right? And then a girl lose weight and then you really see who they are. Oh, you look great now. we love you. Right? And then a girl lose weight. And then you really see who they are. Oh, you look great now. We love you. But hold on.
Starting point is 01:21:28 I understand. No matter what size you are, I do love you. Like, I have friends that are fat. Yeah. And I love them. You know? And I've talked to some of them and tried to get them to lose weight, but they don't want to lose weight. But if they did lose weight, I'd be like, dude, you look great.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Congratulations. It's healthier. Yes. But I just. But I still love them no matter what size they are. I understand that. I'm not going to hate someone because they're fat. But to me, it's a wrong message. If you're going to say you love me no matter what size you are, and I'm talking, this is
Starting point is 01:21:55 more celebrity driven. You got to stop listening to celebrities, bro. No, it's just- No, this is more celebrity- This is a Katy Perry how to live your life. You got to run around in circles like a fucking dog chasing a tail. No, I'm not that dude. I'm not that dude.
Starting point is 01:22:09 I know you're not. What I'm saying is, don't put out this message that body image doesn't really matter, and then when a girl loses weight, you're like, oh, it really does matter. You're just contradicting yourself. Yes. Like me, I don't care if Adele's big or small. I do. Okay, good for for you I want her to look hot she looks good now
Starting point is 01:22:30 I like it as long as she can sing that's all I care about well I do care about that but I care when anybody loses weight because it gives people inspiration the same way that Jocko video you know that gives people inspiration the same way Goggins that gives people inspiration those people are important.
Starting point is 01:22:46 And Adele's important. Doing that, man, how many women that were overweight looked at her and were like, I'm going to fucking get my shit together now. What's that other girl, Rebel? Rebel Wilson, when she did that movie? She lost a ton of weight. Oh, yeah. That girl looks really good now.
Starting point is 01:22:59 She's lost a ton of weight. And then same thing. The lazy fatsoes that want to stay lazy fatsoes, they get mad. Like, you're just defining beauty standards. And she was amazing before. And it's not good to be skinny. And there's a bunch of people out there that will come up with any fucking reason why they can just eat cake. And it's not real.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Look, my thing is, as long as you're healthy. Some people are healthier, but my thing is, if you go to a doctor and you're too big, and they say, hey, you're not healthy right now, you need to change that, that's terrible for you. But if you're a little
Starting point is 01:23:37 bigger, and you're healthy, because I know some big people that are healthy. I bet you don't. I do. I bet you don't. I bet you know big people that would be healthy if they lost weight, but they're not healthy if they're fat. Obesity is one of the worst things you could do. I'm not talking about obese. I mean, they're just big people.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Okay. Like football players. Yes. Okay. Well, that's different. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Well, they may look a little better if they had six-pack. You know, that's what I meant. I don't mean obese. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:24:07 I thought you were talking about like – No, I'm talking about bigger people. Like Rebel before she lost all the weight. She was obese. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying it's a thing where – Ralphie May. Ralphie May.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Yeah. I mean, I was – I know so many people went to Ralphie May and was like, dude, you got to lose weight. Oh, I was one of them. You have to, man. Yeah. But he had an issue. There was whatever, the wiring of his mind, it wasn't going to work.
Starting point is 01:24:35 He was going to eat and he was going to keep eating and whatever it was. I don't know what the demon was, but whatever his demon was, and maybe he could have shifted and changed and people have but it didn't happen while he was alive i tell you one of the nicest men ever he was a great guy he's a great guy i i went to nashville with sarah tiana and he took us and of course we were like oh let's just hang out he goes no we're gonna go to his breakfast place so he takes us to the best biscuit place in in nashville you know in tennessee but it was just him like hearing about me and coming out and hanging out just as a comic he was a sweetheart yeah he was a sweetheart of a guy it's uh it was a a sad loss that no one was surprised by yes that's the problem you know
Starting point is 01:25:23 it's like if you have a friend and that friend is an alcoholic and they die of liver cancer you gotta go you know i love them he's great guy but no one's shocked that that was the result and that's the same thing with obesity it's like no one's shocked when you you do that to your body and then you wind up dying it's not it's not shocking no sad it comes with i just think i know what you're saying about the celebrity thing is but i really think that it's it's along the lines what we're talking about before with religion and and political ideologies people that are celebrities feel like they're putting out this thing that helps their image. And the thing is, you can't say anything even remotely controversial.
Starting point is 01:26:09 If they do, people come down on you. And if you're going to say something controversial, it should be controversial that leans towards the side of being liberal and being open-minded and being compassionate. and being compassionate. And I don't think that being dishonest about the real negative health consequences of being fat is positive. I think it's negative.
Starting point is 01:26:33 I think ultimately if you can, like fat shaming is a real thing, right? People get mad when people fat shame. But let me tell you something. When someone fat shames you and you feel bad, you lose weight. If you want to act on that, a lot of people do. It's a bad feeling. That bad feeling makes you feel like shit and you go out and you do something about it. The reason why they make you feel like shit is because it works.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Or you got to take the other side of the coin on that. Some people feel worse and then do awful things to themselves. Well, those people need to get their shit together. But look, when people make you feel bad and then you make a correction. Look, if someone said to me right now, hey, you're fat, I'd be like, okay. That doesn't work. Yeah. You can say whatever you want. It's not going to get in there. But if I was a little fat and I have been in the past, I've had a little bit of a gut
Starting point is 01:27:18 before. Then someone says you're fat. I'm like, ooh, okay, I got to lose weight. Yeah. But it only pushes. If I kept going for years, then I would be obese. And that's what it is. You get on a path. says you're fat like oh okay i gotta lose weight yeah but it pushes but it only pushes years if i kept going for years then i would be obese but that's what it is you get on a path but it only pushes people that want to be pushed you see what i mean like sort of it's not gonna work on people
Starting point is 01:27:35 that it goes back to the lazy thing yeah it doesn't work on lazy people well there's a lot of them look now that neither there's. Neither does anything. I mean, lazy people. The inclination towards laziness, it's a part of the spectrum of human behavior. And it's a bad thing. It doesn't do anybody any good. It's so unattractive. Have you ever had a girlfriend that was lazy? Yes. Bro, bro see look how you said that yes look how you said it oh my god it's so unattractive it is attractive to girls it's unattractive to guys having a significant other that's lazy is offensive i tell you what if twitter and instagram people going after people if there was work involved with doing that if you actually
Starting point is 01:28:23 actually had to go through steps and work to do that, you would have no comments. Right. Like if people actually had to work to put a comment up, oh, it would decrease by 90%. A lot of what comments are is lazy. It's people on their couch being lazy going, oh, let me comment about this person.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Or fuck her. But people in your life that are lazy it's it's very unattractive and it's it makes you angry if you're not lazy and someone's lazy and they're dragging you down like if you're in business with someone and that person's lazy it's horrendous get away it's offensive yeah and if you are ultimately if you have a business together and you know this is your partner and your partner is fucking off and not doing the stuff they're supposed to do when you tell them hey we got to take care of x y and z and like i don't want to do that like oh my god i'm in business with this fucking lazy fuck that that's a terrible feeling but if you're
Starting point is 01:29:19 in business with someone and they're like i'm on it let's get this let's do that hey maybe we can do that too fuck yeah let's push each other all right on it. Let's get this. Let's do that. Hey, maybe we can do that too. Fuck yeah, let's push each other. All right, let's go. Let's get it together. High five. Woo. And then you like your feet off each other.
Starting point is 01:29:30 People don't want that though. A lot of people don't want that. They don't want to be- Lazy people don't want it. Lazy people don't want it. What's amazing to me, when my wife was pregnant, we were a second time with our girl that's five months now. But I was reading stories about mothers being shamed
Starting point is 01:29:47 for losing weight so fast i've heard that like other fat those get mad if you're not big now you're shaming people for being skinny yeah like literally people will get in shape after two months three months after working out you know and they're like well you're not spending any time with your kids since you're in shape now. You've been working out, showing all these videos. It's like, that's an hour a day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Your kid sleeps 18 hours a day when they're first born. Yeah. You know, you're taking an hour for yourself and you're getting, women get shamed for losing. I'm like, now this is really, we're just shaming people for no reason. Well, it's just a bunch of people talking. And the problem is it used to be, you had to be around those people to hear it. Yeah. Now those dumb fucks, they put it on Facebook and the whole world can read it.
Starting point is 01:30:32 And then other fat fucks chime in too. Yeah, I agree. There's nothing wrong with it. And if their husband's complaining, she should get rid of him. Just stuffing their fat face with cake while they're writing it. While they're typing it. I don't understand. It's fun to be mean towards lazy people, too, when you say things like that.
Starting point is 01:30:55 It's fun. I enjoyed that. Yeah. Lazy people know they're lazy, too. Yeah. And that's what's great about it. They're coming up with excuses for why you're wrong. Guess what? This whole segment right now about the lazy, people are really mad that are lazy. about it like when you're coming up with excuses for why they're why you're wrong guess what this whole segment right now about the lazy yes people are really mad that are lazy only lazy people only
Starting point is 01:31:10 lazy people jaco approves this oh david goggins is like that's what i'm talking about approves all those people approve look i have my friend cam haines that dude works a full-time job he works for the department of water and power in oregon he gets up every morning. He doesn't have a day where he doesn't run 16 miles. Every day he's running 10 miles. Oftentimes we'll run a marathon a day. He runs ultra marathons. He runs these fucking 240 mile races that take
Starting point is 01:31:36 three days. Works a full-time job. Also one of the best bow hunters in the world. And every day, you go to his Instagram, every day it's him lifting weights. It's him running. It's him talking him talking it's him saying have a great day everybody he's got a different approach to jocko he's not screaming you know failure is not an option he's got a different approach but that motherfucker gets after it every single day so if you ever feel like like oh you know i think i do too much go to cam haynes go to his instagram page cameron haynes cameron r haynes
Starting point is 01:32:04 on instagram and you'll go oh i don't fucking do anything no i don't do shit this guy's got a full-time job and a family you realize when you think you do a lot yeah you'll find people that do way more than you and you're like oh i'm fucking lazy compared to that person if you think you do a lot david goggins is running right now right now screaming while running. Screaming. Stay hard, motherfucker. Screaming while running into a phone. Yeah. Yeah, man. I mean, but those kind of people, they'll let you know that there's more on the table.
Starting point is 01:32:32 You get more out of your life. You can squeeze out more. And it's not for everybody. Like, that is not for everybody. But for everybody, doing your best is something that you should strive for, for everybody, whatever that best is. I mean, man, if you want to just do yoga three or four days a week or something like that, that's all you like to do physically. That's great too. You don't have to be that guy who runs a hundred miles. No, you don't have to be that guy that
Starting point is 01:32:57 said like Jocko four o'clock in the morning, throwing kettlebells around like a savage. You don't have to, you don't have to. But you should do something to push yourself. And there's a great value in that. There's a great reward in that. And there's no reward in talking shit on moms who lose weight too quickly because they're dedicated and healthy and they work out. And also, first of all, there's a reality to that too with moms. It's not fair.
Starting point is 01:33:22 I know moms who are like fitness enthusiasts that gained a lot of weight during their pregnancy and they have a really hard time losing it their body just doesn't bounce back like other people's bodies some women are just savages like two weeks later they got a flat stomach what look at this but it's genetics as well it's genetics so you can't blame a person because they got good genetics and they've been working out. Right. And you also can't blame someone who has bad genetics either. And not lose it. But here's and I feel bad for women because if they're a little bit too big
Starting point is 01:33:52 they get criticized. If they lose weight now you're too skinny. Yeah, but you're only getting the skinny thing. You're only getting it from dumb, fat, lazy bitches. Were they getting mad at you? Oh, I can't see it coming from dudes. I can't see a dude going, hey, she got too hot too quick. Fucking whore.
Starting point is 01:34:11 No, that's not real. No dudes are doing that. The anger is going to come from people that are unlucky genetically. But you can't point to them and be mad at them. No. There was this one lady, though, that she took a whole lot of shit because she had a kid and she posted her being pregnant. And then she posted what she looked like a couple months later working out. And she was saying, don't be lazy.
Starting point is 01:34:38 I remember that. And people got mad. They lost their shit. And all she was like, this is her thing. Yeah. Like, you're going to her to look at her page. But that's a different thing because she's clearly got a great genetic roll of the dice. And she's shitting on those women that don't have that.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Don't be lazy. Well, listen, some women are not lazy. Some women, they get pregnant and it takes months and months for them to lose weight. Oh, 100%. And it's hard, and it's a struggle. And other girls, they just bounce back like a rubber band. It's crazy. It's not fair.
Starting point is 01:35:15 But life's not fair. Some dudes are seven feet tall with giant dicks. There's not a goddamn thing you can do about that. Can you imagine being seven feet tall with no dick? It'd be amazing. Oh, that'd be horrible. It'd be amazing. That'd be horrible. The disappointment in a woman.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Like, oh, I'm gonna get it tonight. It's like terrible. Or even a regular dick. Yeah. It's just a regular dick. It would look weird. Oh my God. I haven't thought about it that much, but that would be weird. Yeah, like if Shaq had a regular dick. What in the hell is that doing on you?
Starting point is 01:35:44 Everything else is enormous. A size 40 shoe, a hand as big as his table, and a regular dick. Like, what? Like, what just happened, man? That's outrageous. Yeah. But life's not fair genetically. It's not fair intellectually.
Starting point is 01:35:59 It's not fair genetically. It's not fair with the parents. You don't get, you know, there's some people that get extremely fortunate with their parents. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean my parents are great. Yeah. Like still married. Yeah. And like they love me and I love them and we talk all the time, but I know a lot of friends
Starting point is 01:36:16 that parents are divorced or had only one parent growing up and that's a struggle they had to deal with and my struggle was different. Yeah. You know? You're right.
Starting point is 01:36:28 Life is not fair. Life is not fair. No, it's not fair. Some people are born into rich families. People should be nice and people should be fair. But circumstances are not fair. There's really good people that get hit by cars every day. 100%.
Starting point is 01:36:39 There's wonderful people that get leukemia. And this idea that somehow or another that it's not supposed to it's not supposed to happen that way like there's something wrong someone fucked up there's a no it's just that the randomness of life is not fair and also the fact that look you don't live that long now you're talking to a fifty-two-year-old man I'm 52 years old even saying that I'm like that can't be real like you ever seem real you ever like, I got another 25, 30 years. No. I get up and I just do it.
Starting point is 01:37:11 I just get up and do it every day. That's what I do. I live in the moment, get up and do it every day. I live in the moment as much as I can. I think my thing is to push me, because I always have goals every day too, is to push me as like, yo, I'm halfway done. I got to get it. You know, like that's just my motivation.
Starting point is 01:37:27 There's a difference between being 50 today and being 50 in the past. There's a great picture of one of the golden girls that said, it says like 50 in 1985. And then it has a picture of J-Lo swinging on a pole. It's like 50 in 2020. It's fucking different, different man there's people exercise today people take care of their bodies today and they never didn't right if as long as you never went through this period we slacked off and ate cake and slept all day if you never went through that period of alcoholism and drug abuse where you wrecked your body, man, you know, you could hold on
Starting point is 01:38:05 a lot longer than anybody ever thought you could. What's crazy to me is when I was growing up, dads look like dads. Yeah, they had dad bods. Yeah, dad bods. But just, yeah, the body, but just physically, they look like a dad where today you go out, you couldn't tell who's a dad, who's single, like everybody's taking care of themselves. It's a different world. Yeah. But it's taking care of themselves. It's a different world. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:25 But it's education. It is. People understand that now. They understand like, hey, you really do need to do something. It's not an option whether or not you exercise. If you want to be a healthy person, it's a mandatory thing that you need to do. When you, speaking about healthy, when you were in Floridaida i want to take it back when you were in florida speaking healthy yeah well yeah right florida the most unhealthiest place in the world
Starting point is 01:38:54 when you were going back and forth did you like kind of stay away from people in airports or or no i didn't stay away from people so i mean i took pictures with some people i was a little weirded out by it like maybe i probably shouldn't be doing this but my my take on it was you know wash your hands don't do anything stupid um don't let anybody cough on you or anything like that like everybody i was around for the most part other than the people in the hotel everyone was tested all the people at the ufc were tested all the, other than the people in the hotel. Everyone was tested. All the people at the UFC were tested. All the fighters were tested.
Starting point is 01:39:28 All the staff was tested. The workers in the hotel, okay. Everyone was tested. And, you know, in the hotel, everybody had masks on. All the people, like I ate at a Morton's Steakhouse. It was very nice. Sit down, me and my friend. They had masks on too? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Me and my buddy, Eddie Bravo, were sitting there eating a meal like a grown-up. It was amazing. It's like the real world again. Was there anybody in the restaurant? There was a couple other people. Yeah, there was one older couple, no mask, and some young people at the bar, no mask. I tell you, when I first got out, when they first cleared me in my neighborhood, because everybody knew, like literally I would walk outside and go for a walk.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Scatter. Like they would run inside their house. If their kids were outside playing, they would call them in to go inside. Like, I was like, this guy. I went to my, I'm not going to say the name of the coffee place, but I went to my local coffee place. And since I didn't post, I was cleared. They, the manager of the store, sent me a nasty, on my Instagram, sent me a nasty message. How could you endanger all our workers by coming in and you have Corona?
Starting point is 01:40:31 This is after three weeks I've been cleared. And it's almost like you're being- So you'd been tested and everything? I've been tested and everything. I've been cleared. And it's a thing. I got tested. The manager said that?
Starting point is 01:40:43 The manager reached out to me personally on my Instagram did you respond to them? yeah I called their district manager and goes this is prejudice like I've been cleared for three weeks and I have a manager just because I didn't post that I was cleared on Instagram
Starting point is 01:40:58 it's also shitty it's very shitty shitty way to approach someone who almost died yeah and I was so angry and they were scared I was so angry. And they were scared I was going to sue. And I just said- Did they send you free coffee? I didn't ask for shit.
Starting point is 01:41:11 But they're scared you're going to sue. Yeah. They were scared. It was really bad. And I was angry. But then I saw it on my street. I was a plague. People literally would run inside.
Starting point is 01:41:22 Was that alleviated? Or was that subsided? Oh, no. Now it's fine. Now it's fine. Now me, I'm trying to stay away from people. Because you don't want to catch it again. No, I feel good because I took that immunity test and they said I had the long immunity.
Starting point is 01:41:38 What does that mean? So I don't know the term, but there's a long immunity and a short immunity. It's IG and it, it's some. And this is the antibodies. There's an antibody test you can take at this place called Next Health where it's not FDA approved, but it shows you like your strand. Is it long immunity? Is it short immunity?
Starting point is 01:41:59 And they said I had long immunity because it was so bad. Usually. Sounds like you went to a fortune teller. Look at your hand. The gypsies looking at your hand. But, but it said like, usually the people that get it,
Starting point is 01:42:14 the worst. This is your lifeline. It's long. It's long. You will live. The people that get it, the worst of long immunity, longer immunity,
Starting point is 01:42:22 but it works just like the flu. Like all the mismatch, wear a mask, don't wear a mask. To me, it was all bullshit at the beginning. It's like, why wouldn't you tell everybody to wear a mask? I posted something on my Instagram today that was from 60 Minutes. I guess it was like last month. I think it was last month. Dr. Fauci from March somewhere.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Yeah. He was saying you don't have to wear a mask unless you have something. Yes. Which makes no sense. It is not necessarily going to protect you there's a a cool mask that i saw that's advertised though that um they they set this mask up this mask like seals to your face they set this mask up in this tube and they blew cigarette smoke into the tube and then on the other side of the mask it was clear it It was pretty interesting. But the whole mask thing is like, if you know, they knew people were asymptomatic back then. So you're saying only the people with problems need to wear a mask? But you know people are asymptomatic?
Starting point is 01:43:18 Well, they didn't know how many people were asymptomatic. Now they realize as many as 78% of people who catch this are asymptomatic, which is really crazy. But even if you know, 3% is asymptomatic. But they didn't know it back then. Yes, they did. They didn't really, when he was doing this? Oh, yeah. They knew people were asymptomatic.
Starting point is 01:43:35 When did they know this? Oh, man. I mean, who knows? This was March, I think, that Fauci was on 60 Minutes, wasn't it? But they had reports that people in like in February, were asymptomatic. This is what I'm hearing. They knew in February that people were asymptomatic. There's so much conflicting information, which is part of the problem.
Starting point is 01:43:52 But regardless, if you know, okay, they did know this. They knew people could get it by droplets in March. They did know that. So if people can get it in droplets, why would you have the only people that are having symptoms wear a mask? If you can get it in droplets, that means if I'm healthy, I can get it from your droplets. You see what I mean? Everybody can get it. So why wouldn't you just say everybody wear a mask?
Starting point is 01:44:16 There's so much confusion. You know, the World Health Organization in January tweeted that according to China, it cannot be transmitted from person to person. That was in January. It's changing so much. But the World Health Organization has been in bed with China from the beginning. And it's really a big part of the problem with this is that the disinformation that the Chinese government had put out to try to alleviate some of the blame. I mean, that's their game.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Their game is alleviate blame and take control of the narrative. So the World Health Organization was in bed with them. I mean, that's why Trump, although it's widely criticized that he stopped funding to the World Health Organization, this is his rationalization for that. Like, they have done terrible things. Well, it also fits his narrative, though, too. But it's true, regardless of whether or not it fits his narrative. It is true. And it fits his narrative.
Starting point is 01:45:08 If it didn't fit his narrative, he wouldn't have took the money away. The narrative of the World Health Organization? Yes. It's their fault. That's the World Health Organization's fault. It's their fault that we're in this, even though we knew about it before it got here. We did know about it before it got there, but the World Health Organization did say that in January.
Starting point is 01:45:27 100%. Yeah. Have you seen the tweet? Because it's pretty crazy when you read it today. It's like, wow. Like, this is just a few months ago. Yeah. And this is four and a half months ago that they said this.
Starting point is 01:45:37 And then you're looking at it, you're like, holy Christ. I mean, my thing is just going back to March 6th, 11 deaths in just a short amount of time, over 80,000. Montana only has one. We need to go to Montana. I know. That's what I'm saying. I'm all up in Montana. They just opened up the restaurants again.
Starting point is 01:45:55 Do you, if you had to guess, when, I mean, you do like arenas, but for normal comedians like me that do clubs, do you think... I do clubs too. I'm hoping we can do clubs soon. I'm really hoping we can get things going in California again, but Bill Maher had a great rant about it. It was really good stuff.
Starting point is 01:46:19 If you go to Eddie Bravo's Instagram, well, we can't play it anyway, but Bill Maher had a really good rant that the key to this is not going to be stay at home forever. No. It's not. It's not how the immune system works. The key is having a healthy body. And this idea that your body doesn't know what to do with this.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Your immune system has never experienced that. Your immune system, if it's functioning correctly, it will fight this off. Your situation shows that. Your immune system, if it's functioning correctly, it will fight this off. Your, your situation shows that your immune system was dragged down. I mean, but my doctor said my immune system, I was opposite. My immune system was so strong. It caused problem. It overreacted. Well, this was the reason why they think hydroxychloroquine works, right? Because it stops that cytokine storm that happens from your immune system overreacting. That's what they said at the time. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Like, I don't know. But my doctor was like. But you were run down, right? I was run down. So that's your immune system running down. Yeah. But from what my doctor said is my immune system was in overdrive. But like I said, I don't really know.
Starting point is 01:47:25 That's the problem. There's no clear answer. Like I go like every four hours, I go, oh, this is bullshit. Everyone's going to be fine. And then four hours later, we're all going to die. It's like, that's what it was like in March. In March, there was so much conflicting information.
Starting point is 01:47:42 I didn't know whether or not we're going to be okay or not. The doctor I talked to said he had a patient There was so much conflicting information. I didn't know whether or not we were going to be okay or not. The doctor I talked to said he had a patient that was rolling at about 60% oxygen level. And you're supposed to be between like 94 and 100. And the guy didn't even know his oxygen level. He was just acting normal. And they said that's the thing that's confusing doctors right now. It could be like you're climbing a mountain, but you're not breathing hard.
Starting point is 01:48:07 You're just normal. So that's what I believe. Climbing a mountain? So you could be exercising while that was happening? No. Well, no, no, no. What I'm saying is the same oxygen levels you would get from climbing a high mountain, like 60. I think the problem is so many people do so little with their body that even when, although we're saying asymptomatic, for a lot of these people, it's like they don't ever push themselves. So they don't even know their body is operating so weakly.
Starting point is 01:48:34 No, what they're saying is, on this part, is the oxygen level in a person that would come in with corona was at 60%. But they were functioning like it was at 94 96 where they're supposed to be passed out right but they're not exercising no but you do you hear what i'm saying then what i'm saying is they don't push themselves to the point where they find out that their body is at 60 if you're a person who exercises all the time and you're you're used to you're in tune with your body and then you're working out you're like god i exercises all the time and you're used to, you're in tune with your body. And then you're working out. You're like, God, I'm fucking dragging ass.
Starting point is 01:49:08 That happened to my friend's son. And he had it. And the way they found out, his mom had it. But he had it. And the way he found out, he was dragging ass when he was working out. Oh, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. Because when you push yourself, that's when you find out.
Starting point is 01:49:22 If you're just kind of strolling through life, you don't really need 100% of your oxygen, right? Because you never get to that point. But when you do push yourself and you're like, wow, there's something wrong here. I feel really fatigued and really shitty. Well, I mean, they must have felt it because they were in the hospital. So, I mean, they were at 60% oxygen in the hospital. So how are you saying they're asymptomatic if they were in the hospital? I never said they were asymptomatic.
Starting point is 01:49:47 I said these people were in the hospital knowing something's wrong. I'm confused. Okay. Because you're saying it like these people were running around like there was nothing wrong. No, no, no, no. I'm saying the doctors are confused right now because the normal oxygen level is between 94 and 100. Okay. normal oxygen level is between 94 and 100 okay there are people checking in with corona that don't feel well but they're at 60 oxygen level which you shouldn't be able to function why not
Starting point is 01:50:12 i don't know the technical but this is what the doctor's saying where you could look it up but you shouldn't be able to function but they're texting they're acting like nothing's wrong but they're they're sick i think there's so many people that are so used to feeling like shit. I don't know. Like something comes along and makes them feel extra shitty. But that level is so low. Like they said they should be not even moving. Yeah, I was reading something about that as well.
Starting point is 01:50:34 That these people should be gasping. But I'm not a doctor, so I don't know how to explain it right. But that's what's confusing to them right now. And then you hear the kid thing now. The kids are getting a certain form of it. Like 85 kids in New York. It's crazy. 85 kids?
Starting point is 01:50:48 85 kids. I mean, it's a small number, but. What are they getting? It's attached to coronavirus. It's inflammation inside. And it's not, like I said, I'm not a doctor, but I just read about it today. I like how you have to keep saying I'm not a doctor. I do.
Starting point is 01:51:03 Because people will take your shit so seriously. Like, well, he went through Corona. He must know everything about it. No, I know nothing. I like how you gave it a Southern accent right there. I know, I did. I do that too. Why is that?
Starting point is 01:51:16 A lot of them are really dumb. Do you know what that came from? Do you know what that's from, honestly? Hookworm. Hookworm. Yeah, it's really crazy the the stereotype of the lazy mouth breathing southerner came from massive amounts of people that were infected with parasites and these parasites were extremely common particularly when people walk around barefoot and they would get these worms. And these worms would get into their system.
Starting point is 01:51:48 And one of the side effects of these worms was a decreased brain function. So that's a real stereotype that came from a real thing. Wow. Yeah. Pull up a hookworm in the south and then stereotypes. Because, yeah, I forget who told me this then i wound up going on a deep dive one night and just reading article upon article about this where they didn't even find out that this was a thing so i think it was like the 1960s they found out
Starting point is 01:52:19 about uh this hookworm parasite and this uh parasite that was extremely prevalent in the South. These things, many of them, like how hookworm gave the South a bad name. Hookworms once sapped the American South of its health, yet few realized they continue to affect millions. So this worm would infect people. Make that a little larger, please. For more than three centuries, a plague of unshakable lethargy blanketed the American South. It began with ground itch in quotes, a prickly tingling in the tender webs between the toes, which was soon followed by a dry cough.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Weeks later, victims succumbed to an insatiable exhaustion and an impenetrable haziness of the mind that some called stupidity. Adults neglected their fields and children grew pale and listless. Victims developed grossly distended bellies and angel wings, a maciated shoulder blaze accentuated by the hunching. All gazed out dully from sunken sockets with a telltale fish-eye stare. The culprit behind the germ of laziness, as the South Affliction was sometimes called, was Nectar Americanus, the American murderer, better known today as the hookworm. Millions of these blood-sucking parasites lived, fed, multiplied, and died within the guts of up to 40% of the population stretching from southeastern Texas to West Virginia.
Starting point is 01:53:51 Hookworm stymied development throughout the region and bred stereotypes about lazy, moronic Southerners. Well, there it is. There it is. That's why you do it. That's why we all do it. We do it because it was a real thing. And it was a real thing because these poor people were sick with parasites. Wow.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Wow. Wow. Wow. I learned some shit today, Joe. Isn't that a nutty one? That's a nutty one. And I'm from Texas. That's when you go, oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:54:20 Well, shit, that makes sense. I always used to think it was just hot there and it's hard to think. Like, you know? Well, now when people say, you don't sound like you're from Texas, I'm like, thank you. You do a little bit. I can hear a little bit. Really? Yeah, there's a touch.
Starting point is 01:54:33 I say y'all still. There's a touch. It's a touch, you know? No, you didn't know that. There's no touch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? Yeah, you have a touch of Southern, some Texan in there.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Just a touch. Yeah. But you're definitely not from New York. No. Yeah, I mean,. Really? Yeah, you have a touch of Southern, some Texan in there. Just a touch. Yeah. But you're definitely not from New York. No. Yeah, I mean, you're not from Boston. It's like you have something, something going on there. Boston Corona's really bad right now. Oh, it's real bad.
Starting point is 01:54:54 Yeah. Yeah. They believe that there's a different strain on the East Coast than on the West Coast. I agree with that 100%. You got that East Coast strain. I know I did. Yeah, you got that hot strain from New York. Obviously you did.
Starting point is 01:55:06 I think my friend sent me a picture because I didn't do any meet and greets, but I had friends come. So he sent me a picture two weeks after they know I survived or like three weeks ago. You're fine. You're feeling good.
Starting point is 01:55:20 You're all good. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he sends me a picture. It's me and four of his friends he goes we all got it we must have gave it to you whoa
Starting point is 01:55:29 so you were hanging around with the fucking patient zeros in New York mhm what were you guys doing oh you know how they come to the green room
Starting point is 01:55:37 and just say what's up great show and literally hug in and it was one picture and they all got it and everybody in that picture had it.
Starting point is 01:55:45 So the comedian, I know. Who'd you work with in Gotham? It was Tone Bell and. Did they get it? Joe Larkin. No. No. Nobody I worked with in New York and flew back with got it.
Starting point is 01:56:00 So it was only the people that you were hanging out with in the green room. Because no comics were in the green room. They came back, but then there was like five people. So it was only the people that you were hanging out with in the green room? Because no comics were in the green room. They came back, but then there was like five people, so they kind of- So they're all coughing and digging into your fucking craft service. Literally, I tell you, it was like two minutes. But it was a bunch of hugs, kisses. That's all it took. That's all it took, man.
Starting point is 01:56:22 And he sent me the picture. He says, now that we know you well. And how did those people do it? They survive it? No problem? All of them survived. One person, one girl got sick for like two weeks, but it wasn't bad. Not like you.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Not like you. You got it worse than anybody. I haven't heard of any comics like that I know have gotten it. No, I haven't either. I really think it had to do with you being so run down. Yeah. I mean, it's the only thing that makes sense because I know, man, me personally, I am a different human being when I travel too much. I just get wrecked.
Starting point is 01:56:51 Yeah. You just get wrecked. Like my brain's foggy. Like my kids ask me questions. I don't have the answers. I don't have the will to do things. Like I'm a different person when I travel too much. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Well, it's a thing where after I beat this thing, it's that road to recovery. Like, you know, now it's trying to get stronger, trying to, like, I have my energy still, but it's just, you know, when your body's just not right. Yeah. It's just like, oh, it's trying to catch up, you know? And I just feel like I'm that dude just trying to catch up. Are you a regular taker of vitamins?
Starting point is 01:57:23 Yes. Were you before this? catch up. Are you a regular taker of vitamins? Yes. Were you before this? Um, I wouldn't say like I'm a great vitamin taker even today because I just, I hear so much about I don't know if somebody said, this is what you need to take, then I would take it. But I hear different things. Oh, take Catalin, take zinc, take this, take that. What's Catalin? Catalin, take zinc, take this, take that. What's Catalin? It's some, it's some vitamin that, uh, my wife's father gave me.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Catalin? I've never even heard of it. Catalin. It's from, uh, I forgot the name of the, the, it's these pills that are supposed to be all organic. And I forgot. Oh, it's a company. No, no, no. Catalin is a pill from this company.
Starting point is 01:58:02 I don't know what it does. He just said it's healthy. Just take it. My wife's been taking it all her life. And so I started taking it. But I'm not sure. It's supposed to be healthy. I take every day.
Starting point is 01:58:14 I take 4,000 milligrams of vitamin C. I take 5,000 IUs of vitamin D. I take a bunch of other shit. Fish oil. I take glutathione. I don't fuck of other shit. Fish oil. I take glutathione. I don't fuck around, man. Yeah. Especially when this started happening, I bore down.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Seriously. I feel like if somebody gave me, this is what you need to take in a day, I would take it. But right now, I just don't have that person to say, hey, here's the list. Well, Dr. Rhonda Patrick will be on this week. And when she's on this week, I'm going to put something out. Oh, please. She talks about it. I'll put it on my Instagram.
Starting point is 01:58:48 No, I would love that. Let people know what you should do to strengthen your immune system. Do you have a sauna in your house? No. You should get a sauna. Yeah, I used to go to a sauna place. But obviously, they're closed. But those are great.
Starting point is 01:59:01 If you go to one of them public ones, what kind of funk is going on? I know a guy who actually thinks he got it in a sauna. He went in a sauna, and he's like, that seems to me where I got it. I think there was a guy who was coughing in a sauna. Ugh. Well, no, these were – no, but the place I went to, it's your own booth, but they clean it really good. Your own booth? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:21 It's these little hot boxes. Is that an infrared one, though? Yeah, infrared. Yeah. I don't little hot boxes. Is that an infrared one though? Yeah, infrared. Yeah. I don't know if that's really the way to go. Laird Hamilton seems to think that it isn't. And I listen to him a lot when it comes to these sort of things because he does a lot of sauna work and breath work and things like that.
Starting point is 01:59:37 And he said he developed some real skin issues from infrared saunas. The studies that were done, is itway that did those studies on sauna use they did studies that showed a 40 decrease of all cause mortality for people who regularly use the sauna using the sauna four to five days a week they sewed a 40 it was so four to five days a week i think it was 160 degree temperature um 20 minutes. And they showed a 40% decrease of all-cause mortality, cancer, stroke, heart attack, everything, all the different things, because of the body's production of heat shock proteins from regular sauna use. So I have not skipped a day, not one day of a sauna since this happened. I'm very lucky that I have one in my house and I have one here at the studio. So I've been doing
Starting point is 02:00:26 it every fucking day. And I've talked some friends into getting ones where they didn't have room for it in their house. Costco sells them. You can get a fucking outdoor sauna, barrel sauna, like a thousand bucks. I'm like, think of all the shit you spend money on. And if you can afford this, please get one.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Because I think it's massively contributed to my health. And also alleviation of aches and pains. I just feel good. I get it every fucking day. Every day. When I was on my routine, I loved it. Loved it. But then everything shut down and I'm like, okay, maybe that's an investment.
Starting point is 02:00:58 Do you have room in your yard? Oh yeah. Get me some barrel saunas, bro. Definitely going to do that. I get in the sauna. I do 25 minutes at 180 degrees, and then I jump in the pool, and I do laps. That's how I end it. That's how I cool off. Speaking about health, after this is over, I was talking to my doctor.
Starting point is 02:01:17 I want to go back in, because we're saying it could be my immune, but this has really opened my eyes. Maybe I do have something underlying. You know, it makes me want to see, okay, what could have caused it besides my immune? If there is something, like this is the first time I really want to get checked out. But have you been a guy who gets colds on a regular basis? No, no.
Starting point is 02:01:39 How often do you get sick? This is my first time in a hospital, besides the concussion. Really? Yeah. So, no. I get one cold a year in December, about December 14th, every single year. That's just the time it comes.
Starting point is 02:01:52 So, do you start thinking around December 10th? Oh, fuck. Here it comes. Yeah, 100%. I know it's coming. Maybe mindfuck yourself. Maybe so. But my wife knows it's coming.
Starting point is 02:02:00 She's like, oh, it's about your time. And I get it. Jesus, that's like a period. Every yearly period. That's weird your time. And I get it. Jesus, that's like a period. Every yearly period. That's weird. Yeah. So it's a thing where I just feel like, you know, I get that one cold. But when I went to the doctor, now I'm like, okay, let me investigate and get a full checkup
Starting point is 02:02:16 from the dude that saved my life. Like everything to see if there's any underlying. Let me know. I'm very curious. I have to think it's the travel. I mean, especially listening to that schedule. underlying let me know that's the i'm very curious i i have to think it's the travel i mean especially listening that schedule flying to new york doing all those shows flying back and of course every time you fly you're tired yeah you know always you have to get up in the morning get to flight
Starting point is 02:02:35 and fly back and the time zone's all fucked up and the fact that you went immediately to vegas and drove for and back in the same day yeah oh And then this was at the time where people didn't even wear masks in the plane. Of course. I wore one because my wife made me, but it didn't help. Well, it sounds like we know exactly where you got it. Yeah. It was New York. I got it.
Starting point is 02:02:59 And those guys that you were with. Yeah. So a mask. I didn't have a mask when I met my friends. Or maybe you gave it to them. I don't think so. Oh, you're going to blame them. Yeah. So a mask. I didn't have a mask when I met my friends. Or maybe you gave it to them. I don't think so. Oh, you're going to blame them. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:08 100%. I know I didn't have it. This is why I know I didn't have it is because the two comics didn't get it and they were with me there and then one flew back with me and the only time they weren't around me and this was the last show of the whole weekend. So I didn't see those comics the day after. So I know I got it from them because the other comics didn't get it.
Starting point is 02:03:32 Well, my friend Sturgill got it when he was traveling in Europe, and when he came home, he was with his wife and kids, and no one got it, just him. See, I bet you if he tested his wife for antibody. They did. They all tested.
Starting point is 02:03:43 They didn't have it. Hmm. At the same time they tested? Everyone tested. Huh. Because my wife thinks she got it. We got the antibody test, so we're waiting to see. Oh, she thinks she has the antibodies. Wait a minute. Why didn't the antibody test, why didn't it, it's supposed to take like 15 minutes. Oh, we're not Joe Rogan. We got the one where you got to go in and it takes two days. The swab, the nose swab or the finger prick? No, they draw your blood. Oh, okay. It's the FDA one, I guess.
Starting point is 02:04:09 Okay. So now that's available like at some place down the street from our house. So she went to go get it. It's just, she couldn't, we couldn't find time because the kids, you know, love her around. So when is it? We get the results tomorrow. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:04:24 But I took the i've taken two corona tests i took one before i came here like three days your wife just brushed it off you're never gonna hear the end of it i think she did she said oh yeah i had a fever for a day and the kids had one for half a day i'm like but i think i got that i know i got that strand from new york and it hit me hard, man. Dude, I think it's travel. I really do. I'm talking to all my comedian friends. Everybody that I've had here that hasn't been traveling, like, dude, I never felt better
Starting point is 02:04:53 in my life. I feel great because we're not traveling every weekend. Yeah. I think that shit's terrible. I think it's like drinking every weekend. I really think it's similar. I think it's like, it's like you're beating yourself up. And I really think it's similar.
Starting point is 02:05:02 I think it's like, it's like you're beating yourself up. And also I'm the guy that will, will do the show, leave the club at one and they get on the 6am and fly. And that's what I did too. Well, I did Wendy Williams. So I flew out that night,
Starting point is 02:05:17 but usually the two weeks before that, I do the late show fly out first flight out. Cause I want to be with my family. I did the exact same thing. That's what I did in Florida. And then literally you're laying around all day going, what the fuck did I do to myself? Right. And you feel horrible the whole day.
Starting point is 02:05:33 Exactly. You can't even function. Exactly. Where I think I'm on that new pattern when comedy picks up again. It's like, yeah, I'm going to take the three or four o'clock out. I'm going to take my time leaving because I'm worn out. And you don't recover till Monday or Tuesday sometimes when you do like four shows or whatever when you travel. Yeah, I mean, if you can get that IV vitamin drip too, man, that's a big one.
Starting point is 02:05:56 I learned that trick from Chappelle. Oh, yeah. When I did gigs with him, we would be out late. And then the next day, he's got a nurse that comes to the hotel, and we're all sitting around talking shit with IVs. Like, there was a tree. Like, the bag was like branches of the tree. It was like Don L's on one branch, I'm on another branch,
Starting point is 02:06:16 and we're all getting IV vitamin drips in the hotel room. Like, this is so weird. But it's so effective. After you get it, you're like, fuck, I feel amazing. Is that what got you into them yes oh wow yeah and then a few of my friends get into it they uh they do vitamin drips i've heard about it before i never did it yeah i'm all for it you know jamie and i do it every week we we do every wednesday we have a nurse comes in here and they give us an nad drip and uh an iv
Starting point is 02:06:44 vitamin drip. Wait, is the NAD is what we talked about last time? Mm-hmm. NAD is that shit that lengthens your telomeres? Yeah. Does that make you feel any different? I feel great. I'm 100% in belief that it's made a big difference.
Starting point is 02:06:57 You feel the same? Yeah. It works. It does something. Yeah. Dr. David Sinclair had been here from Harvard, and he explained it to us what NAD does and NMN, which is a precursor to NAD. You could take that and pill form as well. Now, is the NAD a slow drip?
Starting point is 02:07:16 Does it take longer? Well, you could do it slow or you could do it fast, but if you do it fast, it's really painful. You do it fast, don't you? I do it as fast as – I do it slow or you could do it fast, but if you do it fast, it's really painful. You do it fast, don't you? I do it as fast as – I do it wide open. It takes 13 minutes. It's usually supposed to take two hours. What kind of pain are you going through? It's not good.
Starting point is 02:07:36 Jamie, do you go wide open? Well, not wide, but I've been doing it like 35, 40 minutes. It's uncomfortable. What does it feel like like your guts your guts are on fire it feels like you swallowed hot sauce or something like you're in agony yeah it's not doesn't feel good if you do it over a long period you barely feel it at all the first time we did it she goes do you want to do it fast or slow i go let's do it pretty fast and so she did it at one
Starting point is 02:08:05 hour and i'm like oh it's kind of uncomfortable but it's not that big a deal it's like everything else man when people tell me about the swab like oh my god the swab is so awful it's so awful it's not it's like it's just you get it in there it's like ah it's weird for a second. Not that big a deal. Not that big a deal. But the IV NAD, it, when you do it, what I do is I have them open it wide up. So the, the bag drains in 13 minutes and beast.
Starting point is 02:08:36 You just, but it's 13 minutes versus an, whether you, an hour of feeling like shit or 13 minutes or really feeling like shit i'll take the 13 okay after the 13 minutes though is it done like the pain just goes away as soon as the drip is done exactly exactly it lasts like an extra couple of minutes and then i do the iv vitamin bag after that and that's nothing that's nothing that literally feels like nothing dude that's beast my friend was telling me about that.
Starting point is 02:09:06 Yeah. Yeah. You should try it. It feels real weird. Like the people that told me about it, like it feels like your guts are on fire. I'm like, how is that possible? But it's an IV? Like what is it?
Starting point is 02:09:17 But it's just like you feel it in your chest. It just feels really uncomfortable. Like, ugh. This is what it feels like. If I could show you. Right here. Ready? Ready?
Starting point is 02:09:33 And just deal with it. 13 minutes just yeah suck it up open it wide up i tried like tried it first i go open that wide up let me feel that's like and i was like i think i could take this and is it is it instant like you As soon as they open it up, you felt that. Oh, yeah. Right away. Because the drip's going like this. It's just flowing into your veins. Yeah. Uh-uh. No. I would be the hour, hour and a half, dude.
Starting point is 02:09:57 I can't. I'm not. No. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. When stuff goes in me, I'm scared. I hear David Goggins going, stay hard, motherfucker. Don't be a pussy.
Starting point is 02:10:12 Don't be a pussy. Open it up. Open it up. I would rather go to 13. I always mock Jamie. But Jamie goes pretty fast. Okay. So my explanation of it is it's like a little exponentially it goes up
Starting point is 02:10:26 that 25 30 minute range sucks but any faster than that it sucks hard like i started feeling at my fingers it's a big suck it was like it sucked so when you open that bitch wide and you do the 13 minute jammy 13 minutes is as fast as I can do it. I told them. And then I also put the tree, the fucking pole where the ivy's hanging, I put it on a table. So it's more gravity. Oh, great. So it'd go even faster. Is 13 minutes as fast as it can go? As fast as it can go.
Starting point is 02:10:57 Yeah. You're crazy. But it's just... It's just pain. I want to feel it, too. I want to know what it feels like. but it's just it's just pain i want to feel it too i want to know what it feels like like um it's a mind i play a little mind game myself it's ridiculous it's not though it's not i mean it's your thing i want to um i want to have
Starting point is 02:11:19 control over uh what what i assign to sensations. So does the pain lessen every time you do it, or is it the same? No. No? No. You don't build up a tolerance to the pain. No, I get nervous every week. Every week right before I do it, I'm like, fuck, here we go.
Starting point is 02:11:39 And I just get myself in the mindset. And then once it's happening, it's just happening. Okay. I watched Jerry Seinfeld this time. That distracted the shit out of me. Tiger King distracted the shit out of me. Did you like Tiger King? Yes, I loved it.
Starting point is 02:11:54 I loved Tiger King. Loved it, yeah. It's amazing to me how some people just live. Yeah. Like, that's so disconnected. Yeah. just live yeah like that's so disconnected yeah there's a certain special type of of person that is like really into those goddamn big cats too like that was one thing that i got out of that like there's a special type of person that's into like having big cats in their backyard and shit
Starting point is 02:12:21 have you ever messed with a cat no oh yeah Oh, yeah. The little cat that I had. It's a little fucking baby cat. I was scared as fuck of that thing. I told you how I corralled that thing. Threw a blanket over it or whatever it was. Yeah, I just find when you give certain people lots of land, they'll do crazy shit to it. Yeah, because you have ATV tracks and shit. Gun range.
Starting point is 02:12:45 Yeah. My friend has this ranch in Austin, Texas, in the middle of nowhere. And he always asks me to go. But they got guns. They blow up cars. They use dynamite. That sounds very Texas. It's so Texas.
Starting point is 02:12:59 They ride horses. And I'm like, no. Because I can see myself, and I'm a worry rat, I can see myself going there and getting shot on accident. They drink, they shoot guns. They drink and then shoot guns? They're blowing up cars when they're drunk. That's them.
Starting point is 02:13:13 He has a lot of money. Yeah, he's going to die. He just gets used cars. No one's going to feel bad if he dies that way. Hey, he's a good friend. Oh, man. He parties hard. If you drink and shoot guns and something goes wrong, people are like, well, what did you think was going to happen?
Starting point is 02:13:30 Yeah. He has a helicopter. Helicopter? What does this guy do for a living? I don't want to say. You don't want to say. Well, now he's in the oil business. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 02:13:42 Texas. So I just see them in a copter drinking. He sends me the video. And then shooting a car and it blows up. From a helicopter. Oh my God. Oh my God. Texas is a special place.
Starting point is 02:13:57 It is. That's real freedom. They don't give a fuck down there. No, they don't. Austin, Texas, where my friend adam lives adam curry he's already eating at restaurants he sent me this is like before i went to florida he sent me a message said he went to a restaurant they didn't wear a mask everybody's eating normal like isn't it crazy how quickly that went away oh yeah well i think i think people now are just accepting people are going to die
Starting point is 02:14:21 like if the president just came out and say look a lot of people are going to die. Like if the president just came out and said, look, a lot of people are going to die, but to us to get back, we need to go out. So it's almost like herd immunity. Yeah, but if you say something like that, people are going to go crazy. Like how callous are you to say it? You can't say it that way. They won't go crazy. You know why?
Starting point is 02:14:38 Because right now in America, it's so divided where no matter what Trump says, liberals are going to go nuts. His base, fine with it. So it's going to be the same. We would think people would go nuts. Yeah, you say that. But if someone in your family does something and then goes out and dies because Donald Trump said- That's happening now.
Starting point is 02:15:00 What do you mean? People are going out with no mask and they're catching stuff and then 80,000 people are dead. So that's somebody's families. Those people are in. Right. I want to know how those people that are dying, what are the extenuating circumstances? How many of them are old?
Starting point is 02:15:16 So I read something. I need to know if this is true. Someone said that the, Google this, the average age of people who've died from the coronavirus is older than the average age that people who've died from the coronavirus is older than the average age that people die hmm i haven't heard that yeah but i read that i've heard 60 and up i was on the way out the door i was like god i gotta remember to look at that i heard i've read stuff and like i said there's so many different stories out there but i've heard that Corona are killing people a decade before they're supposed to die. But yeah, when you say that though, that's when you're that old,
Starting point is 02:15:51 anything can kill you. Absolutely. Right. When you're 75 years old and you get the flu, you have a very high likelihood you're going to die. It's much higher than if you're 35 years old and you get the flu. That's like with everything, you know? So what are we going to do when the flu comes around? Are we going to change our behavior? Are we going to isolate and social distance each other when the flu is around? But the difference with the flu, you have a vaccine. You sometimes have a vaccine.
Starting point is 02:16:16 Yeah, but at least there's comfort. Yes, there's something to the flu shot. Exactly. But with corona, you don't have that yet. And the problem is, it just started. So you have no answers. And literally, a new strain could come out. They don't even know if it mutates yet.
Starting point is 02:16:34 They're saying it doesn't. Well, they think it does, actually. It does. They think that in India, they have a completely different strain that will, if they come up with a vaccine for the coronavirus that we have here, it won't be effective on the coronavirus that they have in India. See? I mean, so, like, there's so many things that's, it's just not known.
Starting point is 02:16:53 And that's what makes it scary to people. And that's why so misinformation. So what does it say here? This is the table from the CDC's updated as of, I guess, this is last week. Okay, but this is not what I'm looking for. This is going to be too broad. No one's written that article, though. I don't know how to find it, though.
Starting point is 02:17:11 Yeah. No one wrote that article. What do you mean? I can't find that specific question. Did you ask it that way? The average age of people dying from coronavirus is older than the average age that people die? I'm going to type that in. This is the article that comes up.
Starting point is 02:17:22 is older than the average age that people die? I'm going to type that in. This is the article that comes up. So it says 85 years, 13,000, 75 to 84, 12,000, 65 to 74, 9,000. Yeah. The COVID deaths are in this column. So the average age people die is somewhere in the range of 75. It says 78.54, and I typed it in. So 78.54 is when people die.
Starting point is 02:17:43 So 75 to 84 years old would be the average age people die, and that's 12,000 people. Over 85 is 13,000 people. So that's the vast majority of people. The larger number of people is the 75 to 84 to 85-plus-year-old. So that does make sense. That is correct then. Wow. I keep staring at that 45 to 54 number. I said it could have been two, two, six, three. Yeah. It's, it's relatively small
Starting point is 02:18:14 for the younger people. And then when you get to 15 to 24, there's only been 48 deaths, five to 14, four deaths, one to four, two deaths under four, under one, four deaths. So, yeah. So, I mean, it's not good when anybody dies in any disease, but this is, it is interesting and it points to the immune system. It points to, uh, whether or not your immune system can fight it off. Yeah. I, let me tell you, I'm staying, like I'm doing the drips. I'm going to get a drip later this week. I had one a couple weeks ago because I've always been into drips. How do you eat?
Starting point is 02:18:53 Do you eat well? Do you eat healthy? Oatmeal in the morning? Yeah. What do you eat? Well, I wake up, eat oatmeal in the morning. Not really that good for you. Avocado.
Starting point is 02:19:01 Avocado's pretty good for you. Yeah. Oatmeal's just carbs. Okay. And then i'm just telling you what i eat and then uh for lunch uh i eat the same thing every day i have a turkey bowl it's just turkey rice and beans and then um for dinner i'll have a salad flavor yeah i'm not in i'm not a foodie really at all like i don't like yeah i can i'm like a robotie. Really? At all. Like, I don't, like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:25 I'm like a robot. I could eat the same thing. Really? Every single day. I do eat the same thing every single day. Really? Yeah. Maybe that's your problem.
Starting point is 02:19:32 Eating the same thing? Boring ass bullshit food. And then I eat a salad at night with like fish or chicken or something like that. Boring. I am boring. I am boring. My wife is like, you want to order a pizza tonight? Like, yeah, I'll switch it up when she wants to eat.
Starting point is 02:19:47 But as far as me, but like in college, I did that. You know, like you wake up in the morning. When you play college football, you eat this. Afternoon, you eat this. Like I was on creatine. Like we were a testicle for creatine. So they gave us that six times a day, but you had to stay on this certain diet. I gained like almost 60 pounds in like a year.
Starting point is 02:20:07 Creatine put some weight on you. Made my face fat. Yeah. Oh, Samoan. Yeah. I turned Samoan. Well, you retain so much water. That's the interesting thing about when I did the carnivore diet.
Starting point is 02:20:18 I did the carnivore diet. I wound up losing, I think somewhere around 13 pounds in a month. And I got ripped. I got really shredded, but also your muscles get smaller. Like everything got smaller. My face got smaller. Everything got smaller because your body's retaining less water because you don't have glucose in your system. You don't have as much glycogen. It's different. You're not eating carbohydrate. I wasn't eating any carbohydrates. Okay. So since I'm starting with oatmeal, what should I be starting with? I mean, there's
Starting point is 02:20:45 nothing wrong with oatmeal. I mean, oatmeal's fine. You just shit on my oatmeal. There's not a lot of nutrients in it. It's okay. It's good carbohydrates. Yeah. Oatmeals with blueberries is a good way to get started. When do you like to work out? Do you work out in the morning? As soon as I wake up. As soon as you wake up. I drink. Do you eat first and then work out?
Starting point is 02:21:01 No, I drink three cups of water, work out. I mean, three cups of water, then I have a little shake with that layered stuff, the superfood. So I have that, and then I work out. Well, that's good. Yeah. That's not bad. I mean, it's a little something, something.
Starting point is 02:21:21 I've done both. I do fasted exercise, so I'll not eat for 16 hours. And then I get up in the morning and I'll either run or I'll do yoga or on a crazy day, I'll do both. I'll run with the dog for an hour and then I'll go and do a yoga class for an hour and a half. None, no food, but I'm pretty wrecked by the time the yoga class is over. Yeah. I, I sometimes do the fast thing too and I'll run and then I'll go work out and I feel great. But if you get through it,
Starting point is 02:21:49 you feel so good. Like, and you feel like you did something. Yeah. You did something that you really did. You struggled. The struggle is real. What I like is a fruit.
Starting point is 02:21:58 Um, before I work out, it seems like that's the, like today I had some bananas and then I did some kickboxing. I feel like there's something about fruit where it's not heavy. It's not going to fuck with my diet. If I'm working out really hard and I'm digesting food, it feels like shit. It feels terrible.
Starting point is 02:22:15 But for me, oranges, apples, fruit, some blueberries, that's nice. It gives me just a little bit of sugar, a little bit just to get me going. I'll drink some coffee and then i can get a good workout in and it's just enough fuel to power me through a workout i've tried both ways i definitely could work out harder when i have some fuel i uh was watching tv this happened a couple weeks ago and i started laughing because all that popped into my head was you when they released the footage of those UFOs. Joe Rogan is going to talk about this the next day. I'm so happy. I'm so happy.
Starting point is 02:22:52 I love it. But wasn't that released like a year ago? Well, it was leaked. It was leaked. And the Pentagon finally, look, in the middle of the pandemic, what a great time to just admit there's UFOs. great time to just admit there's UFOs. Because one of the things that I said on my Instagram, I was like, in any other time in history, if the government came out and said, there are flying saucers that defy our understanding of propulsion and physics, the world would go crazy. But in 2020, people are like, eh, like nothing.
Starting point is 02:23:19 Has anybody seen those pilots? Well, I've had one of them on here. Oh, so he's a believer. Yeah, Dr. Commander David Fravor. I had him on the podcast, and he was explaining the whole thing to me, like his experience off the coast of San Diego running into one of these things. I mean, there's people that are debunkers. They need to understand this is not just visual.
Starting point is 02:23:41 They had very specific, like actual real data, including radar. They track these things. They use sophisticated military tracking. These are real objects. There's a lot of dummies out there that want to debunk everything. And they're just as much of a religious person as someone who's a true believer. They're a true believer that everything can be explained. Well, not everything can be explained. And these things can't be explained. When they're explaining how these things traveled, they went from like six feet off the ground to 60,000 feet in a matter of a couple of seconds.
Starting point is 02:24:21 They fly in some way that these military aircraft pilots can't explain. They don't understand it. And they don't know what they are. Now, whether they're from another planet, that's never been proven. They might be interdimensional. They might be something from here. They might be some super sophisticated top of the food chain, top secret stuff that they're
Starting point is 02:24:43 exposing these people to just so they freak out and like, let's see if they can get an explanation for this. Let's launch these things and have them fly past people at these preposterous rates of speed and see what the reaction is. Do you think those type of secrets, if there are, are higher than the president? Do you think there's an organization that's above presidents? 100%. 100%. Here's why. Presidents come and go. They come every four years. We're going to trust some dipshit who wins a popularity contest. Trump's a perfect example of that. Here's a guy who's not even a politician. Lifelong businessman who wins a popularity contest, gets to be in the most powerful office, most powerful position really
Starting point is 02:25:26 the world's ever known, president of the United States, commander in chief of the greatest army this entire planet has ever seen, you're going to tell him? You're going to tell Trump? I mean, think of the great... He believes Obama's from Kenya. He believes... A lot of people believe that. But look, you see those birth certificates. It's like well is this real and by the way obama's um uh when he was in college his publicist for um his whatever book
Starting point is 02:25:57 he was publishing or whatever i forget what it was but wrote down as in his bio born in kenya so it wasn't just a couple of people. It was literally somebody who was working with Obama wrote down that he was born in Kenya. Does that mean he was born in Kenya? No, it doesn't. It might mean that the publicists thought it would be cool to say he was born in Kenya because it would make, wow, this guy's gone so far. And look at him.
Starting point is 02:26:22 Now he's at Harvard and he was born in Kenya. It makes for a better story. It makes for a better story. It makes for a better story. So you have to take all the possibilities into consideration. But anyway, Trump, that was his thing. He was a birther, right? So he believes a lot of wacky shit. And if you gave him access to that, he would have definitely told us stuff by now.
Starting point is 02:26:43 Of course he would. Of course there's UFOs there. I mean, he sent out the footage. Well, Jimmy Carter said that he would. He said that he had actually seen a UFO and that if he got into the office, he would tell everybody. And he got into office and didn't say shit. Didn't say shit. I really think when people go in there, man, like if you're a president, they say, this is what we can keep you alive on.
Starting point is 02:27:03 If you talk about this, we can't protect you. I honestly think they have that conversation. Well, if you look at what Obama said before he got into office versus what he did when he got into office, there's two possible scenarios. One, he got into office and then he got compromised and he became corrupt and he became a part of the system. Two, his understanding when he was running for president of how the world really works is vastly different than how the world actually works. And then once you get in there, you realize that the huge spectrum of threats to the United States and to people that are coming from all around the world all the time and what needs to be done to mitigate these threats. I more inclined to believe the latter i think it's more like that
Starting point is 02:27:49 i think i think you have these idealistic perspectives that once you get into office they get sort of dashed and you go holy shit you're like oh everybody wants that's why they all look old too i think the pressure that they're like, what the fuck? I think the whole world's barely keeping it together every day, every day of the year, barely keeping it together. You got like this fucking Libya is a failed state. They're having slave auctions on YouTube. And you've got ISIS is plotting these fucking these attacks here. And this group in Boko haram is doing this and fucking al-qaeda is doing that and the taliban and all day china's doing this and north korea's
Starting point is 02:28:35 got that and i think every fucking president deals with a new series of potential terrorist attacks a new series of uh religious fanatics that want to blow things up and kill people and you've got white nationalists that are going to christ church in new zealand and shooting people in a mosque it's like all day long you've got madness and if you're the one person that won the popularity contest and all of a sudden you're sitting in the fucking control room and they're explaining everything to you like the Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer come on man breaking news every time they come on breaking news breaking news I think it's madness it's madness that's what I think I think all day long it's
Starting point is 02:29:20 madness yeah it's it's scary man it's scary I think they keep Trump in the dark they feed him Adderall and let him watch keeping up with the Kardashians and this Just tweets about people he's mad at how I'm even lemon you piece of shit he gets mad at people I mean how crazy is this that our president just tweets all the tweet I think over the weekend 126 times or retweets. Bro, I don't even have time to tweet. You know, it's so rare that I tweet something. Most of my tweets come from Instagram. I'll post a picture on Instagram and that gets tweeted.
Starting point is 02:29:54 That's most of the time. If I tweet once in a day, it's a lot. That's a crazy day. I wonder if somebody runs. Do you think somebody runs his account? No. You think it's actually him? Yes, I do.
Starting point is 02:30:04 Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. I don't see how you have that. Because I'm not positive, but I really believe that. Because I think that if you look at his pattern before he was ever president, that's how he did things. He always just talked shit. It's the way he gets the word out. And it's real controversial, man.
Starting point is 02:30:22 I mean, because some of the things that he says, like he's threatening people. Like he's threatened North Korea with missiles and shit. Did you think that Dictator was dead when that came out? I was hoping he was dead because I wanted to see what happens if his sister takes over. I thought that would be fun. She has my name, Yo. That was pretty cool. Because I am Korean.
Starting point is 02:30:44 So I was like, Yo! We got a Yo in the house. Got a Yo in the house. Yeah. I was thinking, but apparently Jamie said that the story is that he faked his own death so that he could find out who the traitors were. Good plan. Makes sense.
Starting point is 02:31:01 Makes sense to me. Yeah. And if you look at him, like he says heart attack, like, okay, look at him. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 02:31:08 it looks like he's ready for a heart attack. Well then that must also mean he's threatened in some way too, where there's some, there's some, listen, when you're a fucking dictator every day, it's like, think of the horrible shit he's done.
Starting point is 02:31:20 He killed his own uncle, right? He had his own uncle killed. And his brother. Yeah. And his brother. And the uncle's brother, right? Or his his own uncle killed. And his brother. Yeah. And his brother. The uncle's brother, right? Or his brother. No, his, I believe he got, that's the airport one, where he killed his brother in an airport.
Starting point is 02:31:32 He had him, they gave him some poison or something. Allegedly, I guess. Really? Yeah. I don't know about that. But didn't he, he killed someone with a missile. Oh, yeah. He blew him up. Yeah. I think it was his uncle. Yeah, he shot his uncle with a missile. Anyone that was. T yeah i think it was his uncle yeah he shot his uncle with a missile anyone that was due to a pole and then fucking hid behind a rock that's
Starting point is 02:31:49 fucking crazy like like anyone i guess that could take power or in the realm of taking power he got rid of them yeah they said that i can't i don't know numbers, but let's say 13 people were like his father's crew. Like only two of them survived. The rest, the other 11 through like disappeared. Well, you got to think once he assumes power and people realize like this guy's just born into power. And there's probably a lot of people plotting against him, a lot of military people plotting against him. And that's a dark country where they all plot against each other and they all rat on each other.
Starting point is 02:32:26 It's built into the system, you know, that they're all supposed to tattletale on each other. I just feel like, you know, this dude came in like a football coach. He's like, I'm firing everybody. I'm going to have my own team. Instead of firing people, he just killed them. I think that's what they do over there. Man, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:32:43 But my mom, she's from South Korea. I always ask, oh, is North Korea ever going to do something to South Korea? She's like, nah. People from there, SEMA's no threat. That's what's crazy. It's a sad country. Yeah. It's sad.
Starting point is 02:32:56 And a lot of the reason why it's the way it is is the United States' interference. I mean, if you look at the history oforea like how it got started and why they became this horrific military military dictatorship you can kind of trace a good chunk of it to american policy and what we did in korea during the korean war it's fucking crazy shit man yeah it's it's this world i mean it's just nuts. Like, I don't know if you saw the video of that kid that was jogging, Ahmad. Yes. I mean, what is going on? Like, I'm not surprised. I can say I'm not surprised.
Starting point is 02:33:33 It's horrific. It's horrific. You see the guy in the back of the pickup truck with a shotgun. The other guy jumps out, and he's trying to grab the shotgun from him, and they shoot him. Like, what? He's trying to grab the shotgun from them. They shoot him. Like, what?
Starting point is 02:33:51 My thing is, how do we have laws that say that you could chase somebody with guns? And here's the thing. If you notice in the video, the truck is in front of them. So they chased him, got in front of him. The guy that's running behind him, it's almost like Ahmad was trapped. A guy chasing you with a camera. The truck was already pulled up. It was certainly trapped.
Starting point is 02:34:08 I mean, they chased him down and it's vigilantism. Even if he did something. I mean, I don't even know if he did anything. No, he didn't. They said he was just running. But no, there's actually photographs. There's videos of him walking into a house being built. Like, it's just wood inside. Right.
Starting point is 02:34:22 He looked at it. What I told my wife. I would do that shit when I was a kid. Me too. I was telling my wife, we just did that the other day. They're building a house and we just, oh, let's see where this is. And then he jogs on. Didn't steal anything. Didn't have anything. Just jogging. Now, how do we come to a point in our country where two men can chase him down with guns and then get in a fight with him and then say it was self-defense well I think Georgia has some crazy laws in citizens citizens arrest and also they have ties to law enforcement yes the
Starting point is 02:34:56 father was with the DEA and then the prosecutor the local prosecutor wrote this letter that said basically he burglarized the kid Ahmad burglarized something, which he didn't. And they had every right to pull him over. And when he didn't stop, they got in a fight. And so they had every right to kill him. So now the the government came in like the big dogs came in and then they arrested people in two days. And it was just like, ah, we don't think so. And here's the thing.
Starting point is 02:35:28 It took social media out. It did. It did. It took the outrage of people finding out about the case. But when I found out that it happened months ago. Oh, 2-23. February 20. I mean, January, February 23.
Starting point is 02:35:40 For months, these guys were out and they knew that they had shot him. And then here's what's really crazy. They had the video. Here's what's really crazy. The video was released by their own lawyer. You know why? He thought it showed that the guy tried to take the gun away. Look, this is going to free you.
Starting point is 02:35:58 I'm doing the southern accent. Hey, I got an idea. We're going to release the video, and then everyone's going to know. That dude released a video, and this is what I heard. He released it. Thinking that it helped his clients. Helped them, because the guy didn't stop when they tried to pull him over. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:36:14 Imagine being a 25-year-old black man and two white guys in the back of a pickup truck with shotguns pull over, and there's no one else around. Holy fuck. What was the kid supposed to do? Just stop and talk to two men with guns? Exactly. It's, it's, and then, and then I was listening to reports like before this video even came out.
Starting point is 02:36:33 Here's what's crazy is the police had the video at the beginning and they still dismissed it. They had this at the beginning. They didn't release it. The lawyer released it, like you said. So they had it at the beginning. That's so crazy that the lawyer thought that that was going to help his clients. You know what I think?
Starting point is 02:36:49 And I don't know much about the person that shot it. But if I'm guessing, everybody's throwing out, I think he shot the video, whoever this guy was. It's almost like a hero video. Look at this. We caught a guy that burglarized. They felt like, oh, this is- And then the guns start going off. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:04 Holy fuck. Yeah. Maybe. caught a guy that burglarized like they felt like oh this and then the guns start going off yeah holy fuck yeah maybe and then the vigilantism is scary man because people just decide that they're right and they decide that this is the this is the person and no due process no trial none you're pulling up with shotguns drawn like cops don't even do that man they turn the lights on first they pull you over they start talking to They don't pull the gun out right away when you're just jogging. Well, some cops do. I mean, it's happened before. There's a lot of video of that, too.
Starting point is 02:37:32 Video of that, too. But I do think, I mean, it's deep south. Hookworm territory. Hookworm. It's racism. I think racism led it, too. Well, it's very likely. Yeah, it's very. At the very led it too. Well, it's very likely. At the very least, it has
Starting point is 02:37:48 to be considered as one of the main components of this sort of interaction. Absolutely. I just feel that anytime you bring up race, you'll have the audience that goes, oh, you gotta bring up race. But this was a black guy that got shot by two white guys
Starting point is 02:38:04 with shotguns. Let's take away race. Let's say the two guys shot a black guy that got shot by two white guys with shotguns. Let's take away race. Let's say the two guys shot a white guy that was jogging. It's still wrong. It's still wrong. Even if you take the potential racism out. Take it out. You got a 25 year old just kid who's out jogging. These guys pull up with shotguns
Starting point is 02:38:20 and tell them to, you know, hey, we want to talk to you. Like, fuck. Well, you've heard this. Some people don't even think racism is real. They're like, hey, we want to talk to you. Like, fuck. Well, you've heard this. Some people don't even think racism is real. They're like, oh, there's no racism in America. Well, who says that? I mean, I've heard racist people. But anybody who doesn't believe it, it's like saying sexism isn't real.
Starting point is 02:38:39 But they don't think it's big as it is. You know, like you said something at the comedy store, and it may have been in one of your specials, where you were talking about something and you said, that's only four people ago. Yeah. The United States, 1776. Yeah. That's only four people ago. Three people ago.
Starting point is 02:38:54 Three people ago. So if you think about that, right? Three people ago, people owned people. Owned people. So you were racist and then your kids were racist. My dad is that third level being black, had to go through racism. So we're still in it. It can't go away that fast.
Starting point is 02:39:11 It takes a long time to go away when you've got the roots of it that's still deeply embedded in these cities, right? Like places like Baltimore, Georgia, red lines where you weren't even allowed to sell a home to someone who was black in certain districts. Yeah. It was illegal. Man, my dad has a PhD in nuclear physics and went to a college where he couldn't even eat at restaurants on campus. Where was that? He went to Oklahoma State. He couldn't even eat at restaurants?
Starting point is 02:39:39 At certain restaurants on campus. What year is this? Well, he's 75. So, 60s? So, during the civil rights, all the riots. Yeah. He led, my dad was in marches to try to get the
Starting point is 02:39:55 local restaurant to let him in. So, it's a thing where when people go, ah, racism isn't that bad. My dad is only 75. Right, right. And he went through it. During his lifetime. During his lifetime. He's alive right now. So, and this is when my dad was telling me
Starting point is 02:40:12 when he was growing up, this is how crazy. My dad said he didn't even know he was poor growing up because they never left the area. They couldn't go anywhere. Wow. He never knew they were poor. He never saw white people because they weren't allowed to go anywhere anyway. So he never knew they were poor. He never saw white people because they weren't allowed to go anywhere anyway. So he never knew they were in poverty.
Starting point is 02:40:31 You know, I was reading this horrible story about even after slavery was abolished, one of the things that they would do was they would capture black men for loitering and force them into going into labor camps. So they would literally enforce slavery, but do slavery by having them in prison and forcing them to do labor. Now, the reason why I bring this up, right now, there was a garbage strike, garbage workers strike. And so they brought in prisoners. They kicked...
Starting point is 02:41:03 Find out where this is. They... This is... and so they brought in prisoners. Find out where this is. I don't remember where it was, but I was reading it. I was like, what in the fuck? So these guys, the garbage men, made $10 an hour. They fired all the striking garbage men and brought in prisoners to do this. Here it is. Prison labor replaces striking garbage workers in New Orleans. Stop and think about that.
Starting point is 02:41:26 They said, you know what? You want more than $10 an hour? I got a better idea. We'll get people to do it for free. So they're essentially reigniting slavery in New Orleans when it comes to taking care of garbage. Yeah. I mean, it's still around. But the fact that they think that's okay, that this is like, well, I got a solution.
Starting point is 02:41:45 Yeah. And the fact that you don't think someone should get more than $10 an hour to fucking take care of people's garbage. It's insane. It's insane. And bringing in literally slaves. Yeah. Well, they shouldn't have done that.
Starting point is 02:42:00 They would be paid only 13% of what garbage makers. So the garbage workers who are only making $10.25 an hour. So they're going to get 13% of that, which is, what is that? It's not a dollar. Is that, I got a buck 50? It's lower than that. It's like 75 cents, right? It's about a dollar probably.
Starting point is 02:42:19 Dollar? Fuck. Maybe $1.30. Fuck. I mean, that's just modern day slavery. It is slavery. Yeah. I mean, giving them a dollar.
Starting point is 02:42:31 That's insane. But some people would say, you know, they're inmates. They did wrong. That's right. Hold on. Scroll back up there. Listen to this. Metro Services Group has long been an advocate of helping persons who have been incarcerated return to society in a meaningful and productive way, said the city sanitation services in a statement.
Starting point is 02:42:52 Metro makes no apologies for this policy as a core element of our commitment to being good corporate citizens. Under state rules, prison inmates employed by Metro services would be paid only 13% of what garbage workers make. Fuck. What's a corporate citizen? What does that mean? I have no idea. That is so crazy.
Starting point is 02:43:15 It's weird because there's no end of the quotation marks. I mean, did this actually, did it go through? How long did that? This is happening. Oh, fuck. This is happening. Despite the use of inmates, garbage workers say they will continue to strike in New Orleans. They have built widespread community spreads from unions and community groups, but still...
Starting point is 02:43:37 That doesn't make any sense. They have built widespread community spreads... From unions and community groups, but still... What a weird sentence. From unions and community groups, but still the city has refused to meet them and discuss their safety concerns. So they have a lot of support from unions in the community, but they won't meet with them still. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 02:43:58 They've built widespread community. I think they want to say have built widespread community support. Support, yeah. From unions and community groups. Yeah. They wrote spreads instead of support, I think. And said they aren't trying to hear us, says Woods. They don't care about us.
Starting point is 02:44:17 They would let anything happen. Ugh, this is awful. See, I mean. If they were sick, we don't care. They don't care if we spread the disease. They just don't care. Yeah, I mean, just a human being making $10 an hour to do a full-time job is fucking insane. It's insane.
Starting point is 02:44:33 And a grown man in a union that can't get more than $10 an hour. How fucking crazy is that? This is what we're living in. And I often wonder, you know, I always think about your three people ago and I go, how long is it going to take? How many people from us is it going to take? You know, I'm like maybe
Starting point is 02:44:54 five, maybe six if the world is still around. Because there will always be racism. Some racism. Not necessarily always because we could get to a point where we're indistinguishable, right? Yes, I get you. But they'll find another thing.
Starting point is 02:45:09 They'll find something else. It'll be classism. Classism, or it'll be a financial thing, or an intelligence thing. You know, unless they get to genetic engineering, unless genetic engineering reaches a point where literally there is no disparity in human beings in terms of intelligence looks all those things but what is that gonna be like yeah there's always gonna be competition there's always gonna be weirdness right there's always you know there's always gonna be those women that can bounce back from pregnancy quicker there's always gonna be men like you know super geniuses we're knuckleheads like us are scratching our head.
Starting point is 02:45:45 How the fuck did they even think of that? I always think that every time I talk to Elon, every time I have that dude in here, I'm like, life isn't fair. How's it fair? I'm so much dumber than him. And I sit down and talk to him. It's like him talking to a chimp. Like, you know, it's like he's talking to a toddler. But you can lift more weights.
Starting point is 02:46:01 I'll fuck him up. If we had to fight to death i'm the one who's gonna walk out of the room like there you go sorry i had to kill him but he's he's so much smarter than me like it's not even close he's a large man too he's bigger than me too he's um the world's not fair right and unless we figure out a way to make it fair, which is almost impossible, there's going to be prejudice. There's going to be disparity. There's going to be some people. Look, one thing that I talked to him about, Elon, I thought was really interesting. He's got this new thing that he's working on called Neuralink.
Starting point is 02:46:38 And this Neuralink is going to rapidly increase our ability to access information. And he literally said, we're going to be able to communicate without talking. And I had talked about this on the podcast before, that we're going to be able to read each other's minds. And I've said this- But do we want that? Stoned as a joke. It's not a matter of what we want.
Starting point is 02:46:59 Do you think the chimps were like, one day we're going to have cars that pollute the earth. The chimps are like, do we want're going to have cars that pollute the earth. The chimps are like, do we want that? They didn't sit around and think that. Do I get a gun? Fuck yeah. I'm going to go to the fucking Michigan capital with my gun. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:15 I mean, this is just what happens. Whether or not we want that, this is what happens. And what he's saying is essentially that one day with this Neuralink, you're going to have incredibly boosted powers of cognition. You're going to be a different thing than you are now. So my take on it was, OK, well, what would be the difference? He goes, well, you'd have so much more access to resources. You would be able to get so much more done. You'd have so much more access to resources you would be able to get so much more done you'd be so much more product productive so but what i was saying is but what about the people who can't afford this the people that can afford it would get so far ahead that the people you know like before cell phones were around you remember do you remember the movie um wall street yeah of course right do you remember michael douglas walking around with that stupid brick he was walking around with that big old brick.
Starting point is 02:48:05 And we're like, God, this guy's a baller. He's on the beach and he's still talking. Now everybody can do that. But there was a long period of time, years, where only wealthy people had cell phones all the time. Now everyone does. Now everyone does. But if Neuralink happens and some wealthy people have this insane access to resources and this insane bandwidth and this ability to communicate without words long before people like you or I get it, if those billionaires get it first, they're going to be able to be so far ahead of us. And who says they have to share it?
Starting point is 02:48:43 Right. And then forget about us. What about really poor people? They're going to be fucked. They're going to be like these goddamn garbage workers. They're scratching, trying to get more than $10 an hour. And people are like,
Starting point is 02:48:53 fuck you, we'll use slaves. Literal slaves. Well, then that goes to your racism thing. It becomes a classism thing. Yes, it becomes a classism thing. So there's always going to be something. Yep.
Starting point is 02:49:04 You know what I mean? But to me, when hate is involved with it, you know, I think that's where we should draw the line, but that's, that's more of where I'm going is like how many people from us, like where it's just, you don't just kill random people jogging down the street, you know? It's hard. It's, it's hard to imagine that that still goes on today right but then when you hear about your dad and that your dad went to college in a place where he couldn't eat the same places as white people you're like what on campus on campus yeah campus in his lifetime it's changing it's getting better right that that doesn't exist today and this is what i don't like
Starting point is 02:49:43 and i some black people i don't like and i some black people i don't want to say just black people but some black people when they go ah you know my dad hears this and he always gets mad about it he goes when they when some black people go it's no better than it was way back in the day but i goes excuse me uh you're 25 years old saying that i went through the shit right it is a lot better it I'm in my house. I can go to any restaurant I want. An interracial relationship doesn't mean anything anymore. No, it doesn't. To most people.
Starting point is 02:50:12 Most people don't care at all. That's the whole thing is that my dad is like, some black people discredit the whole journey because they try to just say, ah, it's just like it was before. No. Have you ever read any of Steven Pinker's work? Mm-mm.
Starting point is 02:50:27 Steven Pinker is a really, really brilliant guy. And one of the things that he gets criticized for is showing how much less violent the world is today, how much less crime there is, how much less rape, how much less murder. This is essentially the safest place, the safest time ever in human history. much less murder. And this is essentially the safest place, the safest time ever in human history. And people like, you're discrediting all of the horrors that happen. He's like, no, I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm not dismissing all the terrible things that happen in the world. But we're saying, even though those things do exist, they exist at a far less frequent time, far less frequently than did 100 years ago, 200 years ago, anytime throughout human history.
Starting point is 02:51:07 There's a trend, and that trend is that society is getting safer, and people are getting nicer, and people are getting better. We're growing and learning. Well, I also think now, like I'm from my family, my dad's side, I'm the first person that dealt with, like I would say I deal with racism, but not on the scale my dad's side, I'm the first person that dealt with, like, I would say I deal with racism, but not on the scale my dad dealt with it. And my dad didn't deal with it on the scale his father, my grandfather dealt with it. So it's kind of like, and I'm teaching my kids not to be that way.
Starting point is 02:51:35 So I feel like these kids that are young growing up, they're going to be so much more sensitive towards other people than we were. For sure. Because we were still, I wouldn't say like in it, in it people than we were. For sure. Because we were still, I wouldn't say like in it, in it, but we were in it, like in my household. You know what I mean? Like my dad, you know, would tell me stories of what happened to him. And I was like, wow, you went through that.
Starting point is 02:51:57 But I went to a school in Houston, Texas, where I stood out. My parents were the only mixed couple. I was the only mixed kid at our school, I believe, because it wasn't even a thing. You know, like people go, you look different. They're like, kids would come up to me and go, what are you? And I was like, mom, what am I?
Starting point is 02:52:17 My dad was like, tell me you're black and Asian. You know, so it's what I was, but nobody on my block were interracial. It was either black couples or white couples and my parents were like like
Starting point is 02:52:29 before the trend you know and it's a thing where I saw what happened to my mom didn't teach me to be my mom didn't teach me anything about my Korean heritage
Starting point is 02:52:40 because people made fun of her accent so she didn't want me to go through that so she tried to Americanize me as fast as possible. You know, my dad, he's that, I don't give a shit guy. You know, he's like, there's ignorant people. I don't care.
Starting point is 02:52:53 They can say what they want. You know, his favorite word is the N word. You know what I mean? So he loves to watch movies. My dad is so crazy. He loves to watch movies with the N word in in it. Because he says, that's real. That's how it really was. I think that Leonardo DiCaprio movie with Samuel L. Jackson, The Band of Eight or something like that it was called.
Starting point is 02:53:12 Hateful Eight. Hateful Eight. Favorite movie. He goes, because that's how you use the N-word. They said it that normally. He loves the realness of that. He's just crazy. He's 75.
Starting point is 02:53:24 He's gone through some shit. Yeah. It's a different world. Different world that he went through. This is one thing that when people complain about social justice warriors and the ridiculous calling out of everything being racist and everything being sexist. I agree. being sexist and i i agree but the fact that that is the trend that a lot of these young people are going in there's it's too far in a lot of ways but it'll all balance out like you gotta have that sort of overwhelming left-leaning ideology and then this overwhelming right-leaning ideology
Starting point is 02:54:03 for people to say what well, what is rational? Yeah. What's rational? But the trend seems to be in a positive way. It seems to all be going in a positive way. It seems to be like racism is way less tolerated amongst most of the people that are in the middle, most of the people that aren't crazy and aren't overly sensitive. It seems like things are balancing out.
Starting point is 02:54:26 Yeah. The problem is the older people. We've got to kill them all. Yeah. That's where coronavirus comes in. Corona's doing it. But not because your mom just shook it off. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:54:34 Like nothing. And talking shit. Like literally, mom. Talking. You don't understand that conversation, Jeff. I wish I was there. Oh, my God. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 02:54:42 Oh, man. She's talking mad. And your dad didn't get it. No. He didn't get it. And did he get there. Oh my God. Oh man. She's talking about dad. Didn't get it. No, you didn't get it. And did you get an antibody test? Nah, my dad, my dad only been to the doctor once. My dad went to the doctor three years ago. I was having my son, me and my wife were having our son. And I said, dad, I want you around for my son. You need to go to the doctor and get a checkup. He goes, every time I go to the doctor, all my friends go there. If you go to a doctor, you die. Like he feels if you see a doctor, you're going to die.
Starting point is 02:55:07 Jesus Christ. You know? So he's like, I'm 72 at that time. I'm fine. I'm not going to. But he decides to go because I beg him to. My mom's beat breast cancer twice, throat cancer, all types of cancers. My mom goes, calls me after his checkup, after a doctor.
Starting point is 02:55:22 She goes, nothing's wrong with him. Like she was mad about it. She was mad about it. That's hilarious. She was so mad. She was upset. She was so mad. How did your mom get throat cancer?
Starting point is 02:55:33 Well, she had breast cancer. And they, you know, they do the scan. And they found, like the second time, I remember we having this big thing. Because she beat it once. I was younger. And I didn't really understand it. You know, I was like nine this big thing because she beat it once. I was younger and I didn't really understand it. You know, I was like nine. So you don't grasp it.
Starting point is 02:55:48 But at 31, it really hurt me. And she's really into Jesus. And I go, well, that's messed up. A lot of Koreans. Very, very Christian. I mean, she's super religious. So I said, Mom, how at that time I was a different person. I was like, your God, you know, gave you breast cancer again.
Starting point is 02:56:04 How's that good? And she goes, well, if I wouldn't have got breast cancer, I wouldn't have person I was like your God you know gave you breast cancer again how's that good and she goes well if I wouldn't got breast cancer I wouldn't have known I had throat cancer you know so she found the positive of it yeah so that's the only reason she knew she had throat cancer but you're like but wait a minute God gave you that too what the fuck
Starting point is 02:56:19 she was in a hospital I don't want to argue with her I get it I get it but it's a thing where my mom calling me was so funny because she was in a hospital. I don't want to argue with a joke. I get it. I get it. But it's a thing where my mom calling me was so funny because she was so mad that my dad didn't have something. That's so funny. She was so angry. And he's only been to that in, in like I'm 45 now in my 45 years.
Starting point is 02:56:41 That's the first time he's gone to the doctor. And is your dad active? Does he, he walks two, two hours every day. Oh, that's great first time he's gone to the doctor. And is your dad active? Does he exercise? He walks two hours every day. Oh, that's great. On his treadmill, and he watches all these Netflix shows. Oh, that's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:51 That's a great way to do it, too. Yeah. Because when you're on a treadmill, you don't even notice what's going on. You know? Like, if you're watching something, if you're watching something entertaining, like I was saying, I was watching Tiger King while I was getting an NAD drip. You don't even know. in Tiger King while I was getting an NAD drip.
Starting point is 02:57:04 You don't even know. As long as you're watching something. I learned that when Ari and Tom and Bert and I did that Sober October thing. Yeah. Like you could get so much more cardio done while you're watching a movie. Absolutely. You don't even notice. So my dad walks at two, you know, the speed two, and he walks for two hours and watches shows.
Starting point is 02:57:21 So about six months ago, my mom calls me, your dad flew off the treadmill. So he walks in his underwear. I'm finding all this out. He walks in his underwear and he accidentally wasn't paying attention and he hit the one before the two. It went 12. Oh no, that's so fast. Oh, no. That's so fast. So he's on here, and he flew off. Oh, my God. And my dad's whole leg was just shredded, like scars and everything.
Starting point is 02:57:53 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. So I said, you know me. I started sending him emojis of people flying off. But he's back on it. I was like, Dad, you need to get a stepper or something. He's like, no, I'm going to walk. So he's back on it. I was like, dad, you need to get a stepper or something.
Starting point is 02:58:06 He's like, no, I'm a walk. So he's back on it. Wow. He's, he's crazy. Like my dad is a no shit type of guy.
Starting point is 02:58:14 It is what it is. And he's that dude. Like when I die, I die, you know, I don't care where you put me. You should get your dad on a podcast. Oh,
Starting point is 02:58:20 I'm gonna get my parents on mine. Yeah. Has your dad been on before? Not yet, but they talk so much shit to each other like it's amazing like like on my instagram there's videos of them like they're in an argument my dad is telling my mom that's korean that asian people don't know how to drive and they're just arguing about it on the instagram oh yeah i don't know up there it's somewhere on there it's probably deeper tell people to find it? It's somewhere on there. It's probably deeper. Tell people to find it. Yeah, it's on there.
Starting point is 02:58:45 But my mom is like, yeah, Asian people can't drive, but Korean people can drive. He's like, that's the same damn thing. So that's, ever since I was growing up, that's the relationship. That's hilarious. It's so fun. So they've always been talking shit. One-uppers. They're one-uppers, man.
Starting point is 02:58:58 That's so funny. It's so funny that she was mad that he didn't have anything wrong with him. Oh, angry. The way she said it, Joe, the way she said it, she goes, hey, so we got results. Your dad not sick at all. He have nothing wrong with him. I'm like, mom, you should be happy about this. They're crazy.
Starting point is 02:59:22 That's hilarious. They're crazy. They're crazy. That's hilarious. They're crazy. They're crazy. But the world's crazy right now, but I just hope it gets better. I just hope we can get – I don't want to sound like Rodney King. It's going to take some time. It's going to take longer than everybody thinks. I think everybody thinks it's going to all clean up real quick, and I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:59:40 I think we're in this for a couple years. The corona? Yeah, that's what I think. Yeah, 100%. I think we're in this for a couple of years. The Corona. Yeah. That's what I think. Yeah. A hundred percent. But, but my thing about opening up the country is it's, it's not about you opening up the country. I just don't feel in a lot of places people are comfortable even going out. Like I wouldn't go to a restaurant in LA right now.
Starting point is 02:59:57 I would. Yeah. Yeah. I think people are going to get used to it. I think people need to, uh, for sure need to take care of their immune system. Yeah. Very important. Get used to it. I think people need to, for sure, need to take care of their immune system. Very important. And people need to educate themselves and need to understand the value of your health.
Starting point is 03:00:18 Because for the longest time, when we didn't have something like this, there's a lot of people that are barely hanging on health-wise. And any little thing can set them off. But when I say go to a restaurant, I got to go with a five-month-old and a three-year-old month old and a 3 year old son that's what I'm talking about I'm not talking about me I'm talking about the whole family no way would I take a 5 month old I think your real concern for sure is people that
Starting point is 03:00:38 have issues that's the real concern and the real concern is coming home your mom shook it off but some moms moms not, you know, some, some older folks are not going to, you know, we got to do our best to shield them. And hopefully that REMS Desivir, how do you say that shit? Yeah. They're testing that right now.
Starting point is 03:00:56 Yeah. Apparently they're there. That is really helping. And it's, uh, people are recovering 31% faster, But it's not stopping you from dying. If you're going to recover, it recovers you. I don't know if that's true. No, it's true. What do you mean it's not stopping you from dying?
Starting point is 03:01:12 It's basically helping people that would recover anyway. Like if you took 14 days of recovery, it changes it to 11. But what if they get it to you early before the virus has a chance to expand? They're saying it's not stopping death. it's just helping the people that would recover recover faster which is great because they can get back out that's the last I heard but like I said things change all the time
Starting point is 03:01:35 what you said about what is this Jay? oh my god we'll end with this because we're three hours in I'm glad you're okay brother thank you I'm glad to be alive. It was very nice to see you, and I'm glad we got a chance to do this podcast and let people know. And now we're going to show people how crazy your parents are. You don't have to play the whole thing.
Starting point is 03:01:52 They drive like maniacs out there. I've been there. I was in a cab. That's fearful. They are driving. I've been in a cab. Oh, stop telling me. I don't even know.
Starting point is 03:02:03 I didn't know. How can you though i was there i was there too i was in a taxi i was in a taxi in korea we was driving down in town this taxi hit this other guy in the other car and they kept going they didn't even stop oh don't tell me boy that's all he needs to say. That's such a generalization. One taxi driver hit someone who didn't stop. Stop.
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