The Joe Rogan Experience - #1475 - Bridget Phetasy

Episode Date: May 16, 2020

Bridget Phetasy is a writer and comedian. Check out her show “Dumpster Fire” & her podcast called “Walk-Ins Welcome".

Bridgette Heyo You're here I came to make a citizen's arrest Oh, congrats It's touchy these days We're less than six feet apart, I believe I think we're okay

Do we need to wear masks? No, we don't Well, you don't You got tested And I've been tested too I got one of the Joe Rogan tests I feel special You are special

Did you see that the LA is They have a number now where you can turn in businesses that aren't complying? Like what is going on? Why? What is this? Who's doing that? But this is bad government. Listen, there's zero effort talking about giving people information on how to strengthen

your immune system. Zero. Yeah. Zero effort. Zero effort. Talking to people about lowering stress levels through meditation and exercise. Zero. Zero. The importance of keeping your body healthy.

Zero. Zero talk about this. Zero concentrating on the new data that's coming in about vitamins and all the different vitamin deficiencies. Yes. Dr. Rhonda Patrick knocked it all out of the park on the podcast yesterday. Fuck, man. It's crazy.

These people are just like, stay home, locked up. Locked up, stay inside. But aside from the government, snitches get stitches. This is basic childhood etiquette. Well, they were first given snitches for people who are violating social distancing, but now they're moving on to businesses that are noncompliant. But how are you supposed to make money But how are you supposed to make money? How are you supposed to make money?

I don't understand this. Like, what is the thought behind it? Here's the crazy thing. Garcetti said, we're going to keep LA on at least partial lockdown until there's a cure. Okay. There's not going to be a cure, you fucking dummy. It's a virus. And isn't it a cold virus?

Yes. You don't cure viruses. Yeah. Unless you find a way to eradicate it from the actual gene pool. But did he actually say that? Yes, he said until there's a cure. You can't say that. No. First of all, I'm sure what he meant is like a viable treatment

that, you know, a vaccine, but they're saying that even a vaccine, there's never been a coronavirus vaccine. Mayor, LA will never be completely reopened until we have a cure. That's his quote. That just seems, I mean, we don't have a cure for the flu. That poor lady who is the health lady, someone needs to give her a steak and let her lie

outside in the sun. Oh my God. Jesus Christ, you're the health lady. I heard you're moving. She looks tired. That's been on the wires. Listen, we're all talking about it. All of us talk about it.

How? All of who? All my friends. Oh. Callan, Schaub, Joey Diaz, everyone. You can just go start like a Davidian ranch. We're going to call it a cult. We're just going to be up front about it. All these people hide the fact they have a cult. Ten years fromian ranch. We're going to call it a cult. We're just going to be up front about it.

All these people hide the fact they have a cult. We're just going to call it a cult. Ten years from now, it's just Waco and Joe. Yeah, no name. We're just going to call it the cult. We'll have the band play the cult. Sanctuary. That's a great band.

I would join if you started. Super underrated band. It is. The cult? Oh, yeah. Love removal machine? Holy fuck, that's a good jam to work out to. I would probably join your started. Super underrated band. The cult? Oh, yeah. Love removal machine? Holy fuck, that's a good jam to work out to. I would probably join your cult.

Thank you. I would have you. I would have you in my cult. Oh, thank you. Yeah. I basically have everybody. If you're nice, just be nice and tell the truth. And if you fuck up, tell the truth about that.

We'll love you. This is the idea of the cult. We'll just call it the cult. And we just get a gigantic chunk of land somewhere and start building. What do I have to pay? What are the dues? No dues. No dues. That's the key. That's where everything goes wrong. There's two ways things go wrong. The cult leader,

that's a problem. You should never have a cult leader. So you're not the leader. No, there's no leader. It's just an amorphous cult. Yeah, I think everybody should be informed and get to vote. That's how it should be. Okay. But you have to be informed. You can't just vote.

You got to be informed and get to vote. You're starting your own state. Something like that. The state of Rogan. But a few thousand acres. That's all we need. A few thousand acres in like Colorado or Montana. Yeah.

I know. I'm out of this shit. I got some plans. I've been looking at Idaho. Idaho's good. I know. Wyoming's good. Idaho.

By the way, Boise is, I don't even want to talk about it right now on the podcast, but I want to blow it up for Boise. They get mad at me when I talk about going to Idaho. They're like, don't give away our secret. Let everyone go to Texas. I did a show in Boise a little over a year ago, and I was like, I feel like I should not tell people about this. This is a goddamn secret. You guys have this really cool town. You guys have this really cool town.

Boise is this really cool town. It's a little red. But hey, I get along with people that are red, by the way, more a lot of times than I get along with people that are like ideologically left. Like without thinking about it. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like there's people that are left because they're compassionate. Right. You know, I'm saying like there's there's people that are left because they're compassionate. Right. And, you know, they want people to have freedom and the choice to do whatever they want to do with their body. And were you raised Democrat? No. Yeah. Yes. Democrat. OK. Well, I was raised hippie. My parents were hit. My stepfather had long hair down to his ass. My parents went from New Jersey, like really Italian neighborhood to San Francisco.

Oh, okay. And then became a hippie. But my stepdad was a hippie when my mom met him. And then we moved across the country when I was seven. Okay. We lived in San Francisco in the middle of where Lombard Street is. So you were like- It was all just flower children and gay people and fuck this war. I was in San Francisco when the Vietnam War broke.

Oh, okay. When I was a little kid, when it ended, when the war ended rather. And I remember thinking like, wow, they're never going to have war again. They figured it out. Thank God.

And I really thought that. I was like, because I was worried because, you know, there's people that were around me that were, you know, if there was younger folks that were worried about being drafted.

And so you were pretty indoctrinated with all that. Oh, yeah. Okay. But I don't think that's what's going on here with with the left today there's a lot of weird cult shit it really is like cult shit it's like religious shit it's like instead of thinking rationally and looking at the faults of both sides the faults of one side are completely ignored or exonerated or you know you find a way to forgive it or to find out for you do mental gymnastics until you can let let them get away with all sorts of heinous shit privacy invading invading shit but going after whistleblowers

drone attacks like fucking across the board yeah everything right but i would say this is true about the maggots too oh yeah yeah you know there's there's a certain amount of i mean speaking of cults it's a little bit like dear leader they fell into something they fell into something you know they fell into uh the the spell of a powerful figure that's right they feel like they don't have a word in they feel like they don't they're not represented first of all it's really hard for assholes to find a king. All kings are noble. Most of the people that were running for president, most people that were president, they were at least outwardly noble. They weren't the type of people that talk shit on someone, call someone horse face on Twitter.

There's a certain amount of dignity. They were dignified to a certain extent. And Trump is Trump. Love him or hate him. He's Trump. And assholes have a king now. They never had a king before. And there's a lot of assholes.

It's a it's a large market. Well, what's interesting, I think, on the left and what you're saying is it's more of a religion and it's it's a free floating ideology that everybody's a bit enamored by, but they don't have that one personality that they rally around and that they focus on. And they feel like they don't have a voice either. So it's very similar feelings, I think, that drive that. And it's similar also in that the really far left people are the ones that people point to when they mock the left, whereas the vast majority of them don't fall into that.

Right. And I've been hard on the left, hard on them. And rightfully so, I think, to a certain extent, because I do see a lot of this stuff like the language policing and the erosion of freedom of speech to a certain extent as deeply terrifying. of freedom of speech to a certain extent as deeply terrifying. But I've kind of been saying I see fascism, you know, on all sides kind of encroaching. There's elements of it, the creepy worship of the cult of personality, the, you know, just abiding by this mob mentality. And I've just been I've been feeling pretty nihilistic. But isn't it also because you've been locked up?

No, no, that's normal for me. So what's making you feel more nihilistic? I've never felt less optimistic about people's ability to govern themselves. So this American experiment is supposed to be one in which it's smaller government and we can, you know, we're adults, we're grownups. And now I feel like everybody's ratting on everybody else. Everyone's looking to somebody to save them or tell them what to do. There's this lack, and it comes to the culture is just so um lack of resilience you know just psychological resilience and so i don't know i i've been feeling you don't know who to believe where do you get where do you get your news from where where do you get your trusted news from it's a good question

i don't i've been not getting news like i I just skim through things these days. It's so frustrating. First of all, there's too many series to follow. There's the Obamagate series. You've got to follow that. That's nutcase. Nutcase. Nutcase.

The sitting president, exiting president, literally hires or gets the FBI to investigate Trump. I don't know anything about Obamagate, but I did see a takedown of Obamagate that was pretty harsh where the guy was like, it basically relies on you having to believe a series of conspiracy theories in order for it to even hold up. And I am going to sit here right now before everyone's all like, I know nothing about Obamagate. And I actually don't give a shit. That might have been an older video. That might have been an older video. No, it was from

last night. Listen to Jimmy Dore's video on it. Jimmy Dore's video is excellent. Okay. He breaks down exactly what the administration did. Yeah. And that it's illegal. And that you're essentially using the FBI to spy on Trump. And that it's illegal and that you're you're you're essentially using the FBI to spy on Trump.

And then when it turned out that all that Russia stuff that they were claiming was going to happen didn't take place and that they knew it wasn't really happening to begin with. That what they were saying was all exaggerating and hyperbole and they were trying to turn it into something that it wasn't. I don't know. I haven't been following it. It's not good. It's not good. It's all not good. It's not good because it's- What's the other story that we need to follow? The other series.

There's so many series. There's so many going on right now, right? Is Joe Biden losing his fucking mind? Oh. Like, do they have him locked in a basement somewhere and they're pumping up steroids and coke right before he does an interview? They're going to do like a whole Fortnite thing where he was going to be a, you know, what are they called?

A hologram in Fortnite or something. And I'm like, this is going to be our first hologram president. Oh, a hologram debate, right? Do you put anything beyond the realm of possibility at the point that we're at, though, in the world? Doesn't it feel like we live in a fucking simulation? It does. Kevin Rose, you know, Kevin Rose from Dig, he put something up on his page a couple of days ago. I retweeted it. It's the new Unreal Engine. Unreal 5.

Oh, I saw that. In-game action. Now, there's a scene where the character that you're playing, it's a third-person game, and you're moving this girl around, and she runs up this hill. And as she runs up the hill, you see rocks falling, and you see the shadows. It's spectacular. And Kevin said, he tweeted it to me, and he said, look at this and imagine, I believe he said, 25, 50, 100 years from now, of course we're in a simulation. Because this is going to be just as realistic in 25, 50, 100 years from now as the world that you're experiencing right now. But isn't there the question that we don't know that this isn't?

Yeah, that is the question. I mean, there's a guy that I had on, Nick Bostrom, that explained it to me that my feeble brain was having a hard time calculating it. But he's basically saying that according to probability theory, we are in a simulation. It's more probable that we are than that we're not. My friend was saying that they would start doing things like this, leading you to believe you're in a simulation. If people in the simulation started becoming self-aware, they'd start making you think you're in a simulation so that you could doubt it. Of course.

Little built-in fail-safes. Yeah. Of course. But that makes sense, right? So I'm going to ask you, Jimmy Dore, you get news from him? I do. I get news from Kyle Kalinsky, Jimmy Dore. My political news is all from The Hill, Jimmy Dore, and Kyle Kalinske.

The Hill is Crystal and Sagar. I always say his name wrong. They have a really good political show. Kyle Kalinske is very well-versed in exactly what's going on, and he's critical of both sides, as is Jimmy Dore. Neither one of those is partisan. Both those guys, even though they're left, they're both progressive guys, they're very open-minded. Right. And they're very honest about what's going wrong and what's wrong about it.

Jimmy Dore, especially, he has some fucking epic rants. An epic rant recently about when people tried to whitewash the negative things that happened during the Obama administration. He's like, you guys are gaslighting people. Like, look, this is what happens when you have your, your standard, you know,

this is, this is the relationship, right? A guy goes into office, he promises a bunch of stuff, can't really do them, but people like the way he talks, does some things that maybe aren't so good.

You find out later. And then he gets out and he makes shit loads of money doing speeches. And Jimmy Dore highlights that, that he's making, he's even openly talking about it, that press correspondence dinner, you know, that joke he did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He talked about how he was going to try those lines out at Goldman Sachs after he did them there.

Yeah, yeah. And then he said he was going to make him some serious tubmen. They're taking over all the streaming. I saw a whole thing about how the Obamas, I think, And then he said he was going to make him some serious tub. They're taking over all the streaming. I saw a whole thing about how the Obamas, I think, are they're getting into the streaming game. And I read somewhere that the Clintons are. That could be wrong. Well, the Obamas apparently have some sort of a deal with Netflix to produce shows, documentaries.

And then they have a deal where they're doing podcasts. Did you like Obama? I'd like him as a spokesperson and as like as a figurehead of who the president is i mean he's a handsome guy he's incredibly articulate really well spoken the way he speaks is like a statesman you know i mean he's always calm and collected there's a lot about him i really like there's a lot about him I really like. There's a lot about him. But politics is a crazy, messy, impossible to do right business that no one has nailed, especially at the highest levels. No one's nailed it. I don't know why he didn't do what he said he was going to do before he got into office. I don't know what they revealed to him. I don't know. But when you listen, if

someone does an accurate job of breaking down what went wrong, particularly what's going on with this Flynn case where they're trying to drop all the charges and then some new judges coming in saying, no, we're not dropping shit. I just feel so ill equipped to process this stuff because I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a politician. I'm an idiot on YouTube. Thank you. And I'm an idiot on YouTube. Thank you. And I'm an idiot right here. And I don't know anything. And I often hear, even in my comments on the dumpster fire, they're like, oh, I get all my news from you and Joe Rogan. I'm like, no.

No. Don't do it. Don't do that. Don't do that. Yeah. Don't do that. No, don't get it from me or you. No.

No. I am not a trusted news source. But then I'm like, but I don't know who is. Yeah, I don't know who is either. I'm here to talk shit, okay? And if I'm wrong, which is often, I will let you know. I'm not here to lie, but I'm here to talk shit. That's what I'm here to do.

Yeah. I mean, I don't, the show, we just basically make fun of how bonkers everything is. And I, but I don't have any answers. I don't know what the freaking pathway forward out of this ship show is. And I but I don't have any answers. I don't know what the freaking pathway forward out of this ship show is. It seems like it's going to get worse before it gets better, which is my fear. It certainly is going to get worse. It has to get worse unless the world starts back up and there's some sort of a shift in treatment, some sort of a shift in how much more survivable the disease is. It's pretty survivable.

The disease. Are we back to COVID? Okay. I mean, that's what's wrong with everything right now. Right. I mean, it's all in anyone's hands. Until that gets solved, the politics is just amplified. What that is, it's like gasoline to the fire of partisanship.

Yeah. Because everybody's in a panic and everyone's fearful. And so many people are going to be unemployed. And when people were unemployed, that's when Hitler kicked in, by the way. Right. Because people were actually true in Germany. I know. I know.

I know. You're not making any arguments against the Trump is literally Hitler. I don't think he's Hitler. I don't think he's Hitler. I think he's Trump. I think he's always been the same guy. It's just that now they've expected so much more of him. No, I think people to be a statesman yeah and i think people are desperate and that's what scares me is that you know even

in the city there's just more crime in my neighborhood there's more now everyone's wearing a fucking mask it's easy to do crime yeah yeah that's what you do you're either superhero you commit crimes and i definitely see um it's weird like where i live in la is a bit of a crossroads area and it's a little bit like crossroads are the big freeways and some of the big arteries of the road the roads and it's at night because everybody's locked down it's all the like drifters and homeless people and it feels fucking weird when you go out in la at night it's all just it's like zombies yeah because nothing's open yeah so it's nothing's open and no one's on the road but there there's just like this kind of drifter population in la and they're and they're the only ones that

you see so it's so highlighted right now is anybody doing a tally on how many more homeless people there are what What I wonder is... 40% increase I just saw last night. They're expected over the next 12 months, I think. 40% increase. So go from 70,000 to like, what is that? 85,000, 87,000, something like that? Yeah.

What in the fuck? What the fuck? what the fuck i mean it's hitting la hard because most of the people were like freelancers you know everybody's everybody's in the gig economy here everyone i fucking knew drew drove uber who is trying to make it as a comic or trying to make it as any creative is doing us has a side hustle so you take away like the make, think about it. The makeup artists, all the people who are working on in music, all the people that are no longer in work because there are no live music

shows, all the people lighting. It's, it's so bottomless in this town. I'm, I'm worried about LA. It should, you should be worried because we have a guy who's running it.

The things that the solution is keep everybody home. That's not the solution. And now they're saying crazy things. Like, I'll read you a quote because this quote is fucking nuts. Someone sent it to me and I read it and I was like, is that real? Did he really say that? And he was talking about the mandatory wearing of

masks. And so this is the quote he said. Bring your mask with you whenever you leave your home garcetti said that will help us get more freedoms what that will help us get more freedoms i'm fine with wearing a mask and establishments banks or wherever but walking like on a walk with my dog with no one around, I'm not giving anyone the fucking coronavirus. You're stopping our freedoms. Yeah.

You're fucking it up for everybody, Bridget. Go on, get our freedoms, earn our freedoms, drive around with your mask on. See, and I, again, I think here's my suggestion. Please get two constitutional lawyers on your show and have them debate the constitutionality of this, because I would like I know there's precedent. There were two states that voted that the lockdowns were even now they voted in favor of them. And so I think Michigan was one and I can't remember the other one, maybe Pennsylvania or somewhere. So there's precedent and there are people who are saying this isn't violating our rights. But I would really love to hear two people who aren't idiots like me have a discussion about whether or not this is the case. Well, Wisconsin overturned it and then they had all these bars and all these people were just getting hammered in the bars.

People are really pissed off because the bars are packed with people i think people are getting pissed off because it looks like fun that's what i think i think they're using the excuse like oh you're going to transmit the disease and i think what's really going on is they don't want anybody having any fun and they're depressed now and when people are depressed misery loves company they want everybody to be depressed they don't want anybody fucking listening to garth brooks singing i got friends in low places throwing back jack daniels and high-fiving each Misery loves company. They want everybody to be depressed. They don't want anybody fucking listening to Garth Brooks singing, I got friends in low places, throwing back Jack Daniels and high-fiving each other. I grew up with that.

That was my upbringing in Minnesota. I've been there. You just described my high school years. I got friends. That's a great song when you're hammered. If you're hammered at a country western bar and that comes on, you're like, woo! Right? Good times.

Jack Daniels, too. You just described my exact high school. Any kind of whiskey. Bring in the Buffalo Trace. Give me some of that Dan Aykroyd Skull Vodka. What's that stuff called? Crystal Skull Vodka. Yeah, I think that most people can balance the two worries.

You know, the concern about their family, their economics. A lot of people are worried about their own safety and sickness. It's not just... If you look online, you would think there's just two groups. The, like, people who are shut-ins and the people who are,

you know, like grandma killers or whatever. Right, because you're insensitive and you want to go outside but i think most people live in the gray they live in the area of saying okay we understand that this is new and we don't know really shit about it and i understood it as we were supposed to stay home so we could flatten the curve which i thought we did we for sure flattened it and help our our places, like the hospitals, catch up. Which we did.

And now they're going out of business. Because there's no one there. Yeah. Yeah. And they said we need more ventilators. Well, now it turns out that the people that go on the ventilators don't do well. I saw that. How crazy is that?

I'm like, how funny is it going to be when it comes out that ventilators are killing people? Well, that's what Michael Yeo's doctor said. I mean, not funny. It's not funny. But it is funny. But it's ironic. As long as you. I mean, not funny. It's not funny, but it is funny. But it's ironic. As long as you're really far away from it. It's funny.

I know people who are worried, and I have a family member in the hospital right now. I'm concerned, but it's also— With COVID? They don't know. I'm not sure that they've tested him yet. But that was the other thing. It's weird when they test you and they don't.

And so I don't mean to laugh at it's a serious thing. Any loss of life. But that happens a lot. Well, that's the problem is that we're only thinking of COVID. And meanwhile, the flu is still here.

People are still dying from the flu. Tuberculosis is still killing people left and right. The heart disease is ruthless. Yeah. Cancer is not stopping. All these things are happening to people right now while we're worried about COVID. It just highlights how fragile we are. We are.

It's that old saying that's been around forever that soft times make soft people. Yeah. This is just what we're seeing right now. We've had some soft fucking times. And now all of a sudden a huge dose of adversity in a point where there's nothing you can do about it. It used to be when people, when their business failed, you could probably point to one thing. Like, oh, he got sick. Or, oh, they lost a loan.

Or, oh, he started drinking or oh whatever you could point to a reason why the business went under now it's you can't work right won't let you work you can't even make the decision yourself to work right it's crazy and there again i believe there was precedent for lockdowns like in the 1918 flu pandemic. I think this isn't because, you know, you talk about adversity. And when this first started happening and people were asked to do this there, I understand taking away someone's livelihood and not giving them any right to work is obviously something that's bullshit. But also no one's had to make any sacrifice either so we're talking about a generation that hasn't experienced much much adversity and hasn't experienced having to sacrifice because my grandfather went off to war

you know when he was 18 years old you got drafted he didn't get drafted he just went because it was World War two but he sacrificed they there was a attitude of sacrifice that you made for your country. And so people, I think the reason people got so on board behind this was they felt like it was they were doing the right thing, their civic duty. I mean, I think a lot of it was fear for their own health. But I also think that it was a sense of civic pride and duty. It was a sense of civic pride and duty. And I actually don't think that's a bad thing that people rallied to help save our most vulnerable people. That's good.

But at what point are we now hurting more people than we're saving? Yeah, I totally agree with you. My thoughts on the lockdown in the beginning were this is great because this shows that people can act together to protect people when they're not worried about it themselves. I wasn't worried about it myself. I know a lot of people that weren't worried about it. They're like, well, if I get sick, I'm healthy and I take care of my body. And it seems like, according to the actual statistics, I'm going to probably be okay. But some people aren't.

So let's lock down. Let's lock down. Let's not go anywhere. Let's just let this ride out. Let's chill and see what's going on. Yeah, let it ride out. Let these super smart people what's going on. Yeah, let it ride out. Let these super smart people figure this out. And the images coming out of Italy were terrifying.

And my friend was in Italy. They were locked down in Rome for months. And they were all singing from balconies. And she was saying watching America from Italy is funny because you guys are so partisan about everything. You cannot just, she's like, we've been through so many wars in Italy that it just, there's a sense that the community can suck it up and rally together for a little bit for the good of the community. Yeah.

But. We don't have that. There's also like 10,000 people over there. Who the fuck's over there? They don't have very many people in Italy. So little. And I think what we're experiencing now is what happens when people who are in power don't understand the responsibility that they have. And they also don't understand that this is a multifaceted problem.

You can't just look at hospitals and PPE and old people that are dying. You have to look at the fucking economy. You have to look at all the human beings that are sacrificing. people that are dying you have to look at the fucking economy you have to look at all the human beings that are sacrificing people that are losing their jobs right people that are losing their livelihoods for no reason that makes sense to them they're so they're being forced to not work and they don't get it it doesn't make sense yeah there's and they're going to be angry and there's so many and rightfully there's so many groups too that you know i worry about small businesses like they're never going to recover and this is really unfortunately the kind of march of Amazon and all these places that have now suddenly you

have any little small business mom and pop so I started doing like free advertisements for small businesses on my not huge podcast that I have but but just to help people out. But can they work? You're doing advertisements. Can these people? Well, they can. Well, this one particular, it's a hundred year old company and they sell clothes up in Portland

and it was a dad and like his son who were running it and they were about to celebrate their hundred years and they can sell the clothes online, but because they had so many huge brand had so many huge stores cancel their orders. What's their company's name? I have to look. Jesus, woman, you should be prepared.

I'm sorry. I didn't know I was going to bring their grade. Bring them up. Let's try to pump them up. And the other thing that I was thinking about a lot. Let's get their name before we forget, though. Because otherwise people will keep talking. Keep talking.

Keep talking. You keep talking. Okay. So tell me about it. I love the fact that you're doing that though that's really cool what what have you been um hearing from your audience like people who people are scared um they're worried but the people that are prone to fear are really scared because they're concentrating on the worst acts uh worst aspects the disease out of all my friends, Ari's the biggest pussy. He's scared more than anybody. Everybody else is basically not worried about it and doesn't want to get it.

But now I know nine people that have gotten it, and everyone's been fine except for Michael Yeo. And I also found out yesterday that Michael Yeo told me that not only did he do all those things like fly to New York, do all their radio, do different shows, do the shows at night, fly back on very little sleep and then drive to Vegas and drive home. But he's also vitamin D deficient. Instagram that showed how there's a massive difference between the number of people that are in critical condition in the ICU that are vitamin D deficient versus vitamin D sufficient. And the vitamin D sufficient was really low, like 4%, whereas the vitamin D deficient was

a huge percentage of the people that were in the ICU. Huge. And this was in Indonesia. There was a study in New Orleans and a study in somewhere else. But all of them came to a very similar conclusion. I mean, it doesn't mean that vitamin D is going to absolutely protect you from this,

but Rhonda Patrick, if you go to my Instagram post, she actually breaks down why this is significant. When someone else was a little bit critical about it, she stepped in and broke down why it was so important. 70% also of the U.S. population is vitamin D insufficient and 28.9% are deficient in vitamin D. Deficient in vitamin D is very bad. That's 28.9% of our entire population So more than a quarter of our population Is deficient in a really important hormone

Because it's a hormone It's not just a vitamin She was breaking it down in a brilliant way on the podcast I like her a lot She's a wizard And now we can't go outside You can go outside I mean I can go outside

But we can go They open the trails, right? Well, some places, some places not. Okay, I got the name. What's crazy is some of the beaches, they had closed, and they had the beaches closed in all the Republican areas. What's the name of the Portland place? I always mess up how to say it. It's Dehen.

It's D-E-H-E-N 1920, which is when they've been in business. And they have cool clothes. So they opened right after the Spanish flu pandemic and right before the Great Depression. Yeah. And they wrote it out all the way to 2020. And they wrote it out. And they were about to send, you know, brick and mortar businesses were already in trouble. And now this is just the nail in the coffin.

So what's the website called? It's D-E-H-E-N.com. 1920.com. D-E-H-E-N 1920.com. Go support them. Go support them. That's awesome. Thanks.

I'm glad that you're doing that. That's very cool. So we've been talking to just, you know, I reached out to my audience and a lot of people are okay and so they're willing to make the sacrifice. A lot of people have their own health worries that they're worried about. People who are overweight or diabetic are obviously more concerned. And that's a problem in our country. One of the things that I've been thinking a lot about is just the school. And my uncle and I were talking about this that year, you know, especially the vulnerable kids, kids who are at home in homes that are abusive or

kids who already are at a disadvantage. Maybe they, they live in, um, they're just like in the vulnerable communities and they're really education is one of the only ways kind of out of their circumstances. And now there's already something, I believe it's called the summer gap and they, they fall very far behind because they don't have like summer camps and they don't have all the access that some other kids do. And now they're missing almost a year or half of a year, six months. And this is time and that these kids are never going to get back. So I'm worried about those kids. You know, there are so many, all of this stuff, it hurts the poorest.

You know, really, it's a disease that hurts. It's not even. It's a divider. Yeah, but it's a monetary thing, really. It really comes down to if you're poor, you're going to, this is going to hurt you a lot. But this is also a disease where wealthy people can lose everything. People that have had like a really good run and had a great business and built it

up for years and years and years and worked hard all of a sudden, boom, it could be gone and you could have nothing. Right. So have you heard... That's real possible. Have you heard anecdotally just stories of that from people? Yes. My friends who own gyms, they're going under. Yeah, that's one of the things that kills

me too. All these like jujitsu places and the places where kids go, little camps. There's a place by me that's one of the gymnastics places that I used to take the autistic kids to go to. And I don't know how they're going to make it. I don't understand how they're justifying keeping kids out of school. It's not a disease that is killing kids. The amount of kids that die from this disease are very small, much smaller than the flu, much smaller. So if you look at how many kids die from the flu and you look at how many kids die from COVID, we should be terrified of the flu. But yet we'll let our kids go to school with teachers and we're not checking

these teachers to make sure these teachers don't have the flu. Yeah. And they often go teach with the flu. Yeah. The real question is, do the teachers have something and can they give it to the kids and the kids go home and touch grandma and give it to her and give it to people that are vulnerable? Yeah, that's a real question, but that's not insurmountable. That's something you need to test people for. What's insurmountable is keeping schools closed. What's insurmountable is keeping businesses closed. It's not insurmountable to test everybody. That's not that hard. That's way easier than asking the entire economy to pause

for half a fucking year because you don't have any better answers. Right. I mean, that's what's so upsetting is the failure to have planned at all for anything like this. Like, you're going to shut the whole fucking economy off with no plan. And then they're basically like, here's $1,200. Peace. Good luck to you. Good luck, guys. One-time payment. And good luck getting it. And fuck they're basically like, here's $1,200. Peace. Good luck to you.

Good luck, guys. One-time payment. And good luck getting it. And fuck you. I want a Kellcliffe. It's got CBD in it. Don't be scared. Tim Dillon was. Tim Dillon wouldn't even drink it. Really? He was scared. Yeah. You get blasted. Because he's so clean and sober and doing so well. So am I. I know. That's why I said

are you scared? No, I'm not scared. Good. It's not psychoactive. No, no. It's just CBD. I know. That's why I said, are you scared? No, I'm not scared. Good. It's not psychoactive. No, no. It's just CBD. Yeah. I am worried about it. I always check on the people. I'm like, how's everyone doing?

Because the other thing that bothers me and worries me is mental health. Like, I have a lot of single female friends, and they haven't hugged anyone in, like, two months. You know, they're just the lack that this is what we do to people when we put them in prison. And we put we put people in isolation because it's really one of the worst things you can do to a human. Yes. anxiety or whatever, you know, mental like illness or problems I have now are alone and isolated. And I don't, I'm worried. I'm worried about people.

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You should be. Yeah. It's not good. It's not good for single men, single women, single anybody. No. Especially folks.

I mean, have you ever been moved to a place where you didn't have any friends? Yeah. I moved every year and a half growing up. Me too. I moved a lot growing up. Same thing. I'm very, very familiar with sitting alone. I cannot watch people sit alone and eat, like especially in a lunchroom because it's trigger alert.

Oh, wow. It's too much like, oh, I was the girl sitting alone for so long. I remember when I first moved to L.A. in 94. I came out here to do a TV show and I didn't know anybody. So I basically went to the set and then I went to the comedy store and I went to the gym and that's basically it.

I didn't have any friends for a long time. And I remember I was on the set and this girl gave me a hug. And I remember thinking, God, that feels so good. Like not just a hug. You weren't dating or anything? No, no, no like what's up give me no no I mean you went in this time when you're like Jim on your little hamster wheel you weren't no no I wasn't dating anybody no I was uh just

doing this stupid tv show and um I had a girlfriend back in New York but we're kind of on the outs and then I was just sort of settling in to whether or not I was going to stay out there. I'd be good with vodka. It's delicious, right? For the record. Kill Clips. This is a great one. But anyway, this girl hugged me on the set.

And I don't think I'd ever gone that long without a hug. Right, right. And it was like a couple weeks. And I was like, oh. Like when you're thirsty and you get a drink of water. Not just every hug feels good. It's like nice. But this was different.

This was like I needed it. Yeah. Because people do need to. People need each other. We need each other. Yeah. Part of the reason I read a really interesting article. Part of the reason that Italy, the death toll was so high is there's a lot more intergenerational contact.

the death toll was so high is there's a lot more intergenerational contact. So the younger people are hanging out with their grandparents more than we do here in America. Also they smoke a lot. I mean those fucking people are all smokers over there. It's crazy. It's like the 90s

over there. It's crazy. So do you guys not read? They don't care. You don't care about cancer? You guys are out of your fucking mind. And then it kind of goes through and ravages nursing homes here. And it's crazy once it gets into nursing homes. But so many of the people who work at nursing homes work at multiple nursing homes. We should be making sure that they're not spreading it.

I was reading this thing that they were criticizing Andrew Cuomo for making old people go back to nursing homes. Oh, I know. Because they tested positive and then they sent them back. That is so crazy. Yeah. This article was, I was like, how has no one brought this up? That's what. In any of these discussions on the mistakes that have been made.

Yeah. When you ask me why I feel nihilistic, it's like our leaders have failed us. I don't think they knew. I don't think they knew. I don't think they understood. And also, I think they were in a situation where they had a clear room in the hospitals because these new patients were coming in and they were running out of space. You know, the New York City situation is a different situation. They got it way worse than anybody else. They've had more than, I think, last time I checked, it was like 25,000 deaths, whereas the entire state of California is only at like 1,800 or something.

Yeah, it's low here. It's very low here. And I think a lot of it is because the governor acted quickly. But I think you've got to let go of the reins, man. I do think it's part of that. I also think we don't use public transportation as much and that we're not as on top of each other. And we live, even though we might all interact, we're pretty isolated in L.A. Jack Kerouac called it the loneliest city in the world.

It's definitely a city where everyone's still even driving. We're all in our little pods alone. Hunter S. Thompson had the best description of L.A. He said it's like a graveyard from the future. Oh, wow. Well, now it's an actual we're in the graveyard. Well, guess what, Hunter? We've caught graveyard from the future. Oh, wow. Well, now it's an actual, we're in the graveyard. Well, guess what, Hunter? We've caught up to the future.

Yeah. Yeah. So I think there's something to be said. Yeah. Something to be said for just how isolated we are already. And just the actual physical distance. You know, we have more land. We're not all in apartments going up and down the same fucking elevator.

You know, there's just so much. Some people are. Some people are. Some, but not as many as New York. No, not as many as New York. But still, I bet that's an issue where people do live in apartments. I bet it's more of an issue touching the same elevator buttons and all that stuff. It's very complicated.

You're making a lot of sense about New York, though. But I think also the sun is a factor, too. The fact that people are not getting any sun. You know no one's outside. You're not getting any vitamin D and if you're not supplementing you're not getting that and I think that also they're getting a different strain of the virus because they're getting a strain that comes from Europe.

Yeah we're getting the strain from China. We got the OG. Yeah we got the OG. The OG's milder. Are they naming weed strains after this yet? Sure. Some of them must have a fucking COVID-19 killer. Yeah. Is there like a Wuhan? If you went back in the 1970s and smoked some hippie weed like in San Francisco, you'd be

like, bitch, what are you guys smoking? You smoke a whole joint to get high off this garbage. Right? Yeah. And I think that's how it is with the virus too. I think the Chinese version of the virus is not nearly as rugged as the virus that went all the way through Europe. Because it morphed. Yeah, but again, I'm a moron.

So what the fuck are you listening to me for? We're like, actually, suddenly. I don't even understand what a gene is. I know how to spell it. And I could point you to some papers that I've read. So how have you been handling it? Initially, I was scared. No bullshit.

Like, we stocked up on food, and I was worried about a bunch of things. First of all, I was worried about the guns. There's so many people that were buying guns. I was like, whoa, this ain't good. Like, people that don't know how to use a gun never shot a gun. They're all lining up to buy guns. And then there was a lot of my friends who are super liberal who never wanted guns, who were asking me how to get guns, how do you shoot a gun, where do you go to practice.

That was hilarious watching liberals learn about their gun laws. I'm like, you guys voted for the, that my friends would be like, do you know you have to wait 10 days? Like, yeah, no shit, idiot. Like, what do you think you've been voting for here? But that's a good thing, though. We should, you know, that's a good thing. The bad thing is you waited

until a pandemic to get a gun. Yeah. That's the bad thing. But I'm also just shocked at people who are so anti-gun don't act. If you're going to be anti-gun, know your laws. I have a great story. My friend,

I will not name him, but he's always had guns when he was younger and he's married and they have a kid and his wife was like, no fucking guns. You're never going to have a gun

in this house. We're never going to have a gun. He's like, okay, fine. Pandemic goes down. Lockdown. We need to get a gun. Get a gun. Go out and get a gun. He's like, but what you said? She's down. Lockdown. We need to get a gun. Get a gun. Go out and get a gun.

He's like, but what you said? She's like, fuck what I said. Get a fucking gun. Like immediately. Like yelling at him. We need a gun. We need a gun. So he went out and bought two guns.

Yeah, it's not going to take much before shit goes sideways in this town. We have to be careful, all you fucking liberals here in California, because you will turn this state Republican. You will do it with all this craziness. You keep things locked down. If Texas starts thriving and all these other states start thriving and they're doing well,

Utah's starting to open up, all these states are opening up. If they start thriving and the cases go down, we understand better treatment methods and people take better care of their bodies and use smart nutrition, California is going to be fucked. And someone's going to come along and exploit that and say, this is what I would have done

and this is what I'll do now. And they're like, fuck yeah. Newport Beach will come out in droves. Huntington Beach. Well, 100% voted. 100% voted. Even dead people voted in Huntington Beach. They'll all vote Republican.

It wouldn't hurt for our state to go purple. I would like to see some balance. Some libertarian type shit. Well, I just think there's no balance at all in California. It's so one-sided. We need balance. It's one-sided ideologically. But it's one-sided ideologically, meaning that it's one-sided.

But it's one-sided actually, too. Yeah, but I mean it's one-sided subscribing to an ideology. Do you think? I would disagree with that. Liberal ideology. I think there's a strong liberal ideology, yes. I also think there is a strong libertarian bent that just isn't vocal. Yeah.

Because they can't be. And I think more and more. Yeah. But we're one side. And Hollywood is one sided ideology. Yeah. This area, like if you're in the movie business or the television business, any place where you have to get hired, the difference between podcasts, stand up, and then having to get

hired is massive. And you see these people that have been infected. Right. You see these stand-up comics that have been infected by their connection to Hollywood. So they'll spout up some liberal horse shit, and then you question them on it. And they don't have a great rational response, but they know the virtuous thing to say, especially public when you're on a podcast publicly, they know the thing they have to say to be ingratiated with all these people that are going to hire them for projects.

It's really fucked up because it's like a form of self-censorship by limiting your employment options. Well, this is how I ended up in this space is I was, I got picked up by a manager for a script and we were going to either try and sell a show or get into a writer's room. And then on Twitter, I was like, why am I self-censoring? And I was doing comedy a lot. And I kept feeling like I couldn't say I was self-censoring around my comedian peers. And I was like, this is fucking weird. Com comedians are supposed to be like the people saying all the shit you can't say yes all the time all the time and so I started just be I

became aware of that I'm like what would happen if I said the things I wasn't saying on Twitter and it was like a it was people were like. And B, I lost a lot of friends. I lost people who, and people, because then there's that whole guilt by association. Yes. And then my life took on a whole other path, but I never heard from those managers again. That guilt by association thing is real, where people think that you shouldn't talk to people that have different ideas or talk to people that have somehow or another embraced these different ideas. It's very interesting to watch.

It's weird because I grew up, so my dad is one of ten. And one brother went off and became like a commie in Germany. Whoa, a commie? I mean, it was the 80s. He was following, I don't know, he went off on a journey. And I had enough, everybody, there was a 80s. He was following. I don't know. He went off on a journey. And I had enough. Everybody. There was a Republican uncle and there, you know, one of my uncles was gay.

And it was a whole mishmash of. And my grandparents were like, you do not fight about politics. Everyone's allowed to have their opinion. But you don't you don't like lose family members. their opinion, but you don't lose family members. That's why this whole thing of you need to go to Thanksgiving and confront your Fox watching

parents. Who said that? There are always articles around Thanksgiving where you need to go home and confront Everyone who writes those articles is mentally ill. They're all mentally ill, anxiety ridden with a rotting foundation.

Do you really think that it's a good idea to confront your Fox News watching relatives and yell at them over Thanksgiving? You fucking idiot. No, that's not what it's for. You're not going to fix them and change them. No, no. It's not going to happen. What you're going to do is make an awful thing, an awful holiday experience for the family.

Yeah, yeah. You're going to ruin it. And again, you know, blood is thicker than water. It's just, we were really raised to be tolerant. Like, ideologically tolerant. That's good. Well, that's one of the first things cults do. They separate you from your parents. Yeah, yeah. The first thing.

If someone says, you need to get away from your parents. You're like, oh, look, someone's starting a cult. Yeah. Well, that's how I feel on Dumpster Fire. We're always like, our update on our cult, because we always say Meghan Markle took Harry and now he's in a cult. Like her cult. What is her cult?

I don't know, but she separated from his family. She moved him to another country. There are a lot of red flags. He has no friends. He's completely isolated in L.A. Well, he's probably never got that kind of pussy before. He's Prince Harry. Of course he has.

No, no, no, no, no. Very reserved. Got to be careful. No. He was the partier. He was the partier. Yeah, but I'm sure. You saw what happened to the one dude who flew over to Epstein Island?

That guy's fucked. That was the older one, though. What's that guy's name? Andrew? Andrew? He's fucked. He's fucked. They got him out of the castle.

He's gone. He's got to get a job now. They kicked him out. He should be kicked out. He doesn't even get the money anymore. What was he doing in that weird place? He doesn't get any of that free royal money. What was he doing?

He was fucking the girls that Epstein brought to him. Yeah, I'm aware of what he was doing. It's a horrific story. No, that shit is as dark as it gets. Horrific. It is as, Tim Dillon and I always talk about this, it is as dark as it gets. As it gets ever. Ever.

And then the fact that they killed him and got away with it in front of everybody. You're like, holy shit. Holy shit. A lot's happened since I was here last. A lot. A lot. Yeah. they fucking whacked him in front of everybody wow and then when you find out how many different large tech organizations and people and you know influential people that he was involved oh yeah yeah it's crazy yeah yeah

it's crazy it is straight out of of something that you couldn't even believe. I wonder if it's that so many of those guys, like, want to do something freaky, but they can't. Like, they want to get hookers and do some coke. So they just go to the fucking temple? If you go to that island, the guy says, what were they doing in that temple? Were they sacrificing virgins? No, they probably saw mirrors in that temple and incense and shit. It's so gross.

So speaking of cults, I was just thinking about this because I ended up on a cult kind of like accidentally. I didn't have a place to stay. Recently? No. I was talking to Sam Harris yesterday and we were talking about all of his time. I didn't know that he spent like 10 years as like a wandering hippie. I had no idea. Yeah.

In India. And so I was like, you know, how 10 years as like a wandering hippie. I had no idea. In India. And so I was like, you know, a lot of people don't get out. And when I was traveling for two years around the world, I ended up on a lot of ashrams. And one of them was an Osho ashram, which was that. Whoa. Yeah. Really? So I came into my room.

I wrote a whole piece about it from Mel magazine. The energy is leaking out of your body it's so i walked into my here i walked into my roommate samantha shahi who's amazing was watching the documentary and there's this like exercise where they dance and you go who who who who and it's a meditation that they made up and i'm like oh i've done that and they're naked and she's like of course you've done this and Bridget. And I sat down. I'm like, oh, my God. It wasn't Osho, because he's obviously dead, but it was his lineage.

And it was wild. I was there for like three weeks. Wow. That documentary starts out great. What was your new name? Premsarita. Premsarita is beautiful. It means river of love.

Oh. Yeah. But he called me a scumbag. Did he? Why? Because they break you down in front of people. And you know me, I couldn't stop laughing. And so he was like, you are a scumbag.

Wait a minute. Who is this guy? The guru. What does he look like? You got to explain to me. He looks like a guru. Like how? Like got a beard?

Like long hair. He was tan. He said that he was 80, but it came out that he was actually 60 so it's like look how good i look and he's like look at the shape i'm in from being here and eating because they want you to stay and he was trying to like break me down psychologically but i think my brain is like too dirty to be washed i just don't. That's a great way of putting it. I don't think that it is capable. And so he was like, you are a scumbag out there.

You don't have work. And I was like, actually, you're pretty right. And he's like, say it. Say you are a scumbag. And I had to yell, I am a scumbag in front of this whole group of strangers. That's so funny. That's so funny. It was wild. So this guy who was breaking it down, was he socially inept like it

was an awkward breakdown no no because you didn't you didn't buy into it you just sort of went around with it for fun i mean i'm very curious right so i like i think the writer in me and we talked about this last time just that the when i was like the the third in the open marriage so i remember vividly sitting just on their couch and being like, ah, should I do this? It's so weird. But then I'm like, ah, but it's such a great story. And same, this whole thing happened because I was with the Sydney Trust Fund baby and he needed somebody to drive up to Byron Bay with him. And he's like, oh, it's no problem. You'll find a place to stay. And there was nowhere to stay. And he was off on boys week in Byron Bay during like Christmas.

I knew no, speaking of knowing nobody, I went to Australia on a one way ticket and knew nobody. And so I was like, I'm fucked. One way ticket. God, that's such a crazy move. How old were you? 28? No, I was 30, 33.

I called it 33. Yeah. And so, yeah, I just went. I had been in L.A. kind of grinding, and I was like, if I don't travel now, I'm getting- One-way ticket is a wild move. I do it a lot. Really? A lot, yeah, a lot. I'm kind of known for that.

So you have to figure out how to get back. But imagine if COVID broke out right when you landed in Australia. I know, I'd be stuck. I was stuck in India with $7. I had to have somebody buy me a ticket out that time, an ex-boyfriend. Thank you, Casey. Oh, wow. Shout out to Casey.

Shout out to Casey. Well, that's nice that he did that. Getting me out of India. What did they do before, like in the old days? India is basically like the old days when you travel there. No, but I mean, it's like you needed a ticket in the 70s. Oh, I don't know. What the fuck would you do?

My dad traveled around the world when he was in his 20s. And I was like, how did you do it? You know, he's like, oh, you know, I went and talked to my parents. They have no idea where you are. Right. I mean, you have to just do everything by paper. You look for bus schedules when you get there you know you go find a hotel when you arrive in the city yeah it's crazy how about hitchhikers like hitchhikers

are the craziest assholes ever like let's just randomly hope this person who's just gonna randomly pick me up isn't gonna kill me yeah yeah and then you would read stories you'd read stories about this guy kidnapped this girl and cut her hands off. Like, what? God, no. What the fuck? That's my biggest. I'm so afraid of that.

Yeah. Like, that's always been in my most recent podcast. Every once in a while, I do story hours where my cousin Maggie interviews me. And I was telling her all about my traveling. And she was asking me. And it turns out I have, like, four four near abduction stories that I completely forgot about but I I have this I have that fear but it's also been reinforced by so when you join this cult yeah and they they break you down they say you're a scumbag what's his accent like what was it like it was a weird accent because he was

from Italy originally oh and then how much of that cult was about banging? A lot. But I didn't, I only had one cult boyfriend, but he encouraged polyamory. And I think my cult boyfriend saved me, my cult boyfriend. I mean, um, why did he save you? Well, because he was, uh, he had just come there to kind of recharge. He was in getting his degree in philosophy and he had occasionally come and he was a musician. And then he left and went to Melbourne. And then I went back into the city to drop him off. And we weren't allowed to drink or anything.

And this is when I was still partying like a legend. And I got three bottles of wine and I drank an entire bottle of wine in the park. And then my friend came and took me back to the ashram and I was hammered and I was crying and making a scene. And he was like, what are you drinking? And he said, do you have enough for the rest of everyone? So then everyone then he let everyone drink. It was weird. Yeah.

Then it became like a it was a weird thing. I started partying. But then I was texting my, I call him Sidney Trust one boy. I was like, get me the fuck out of here. I want a steak. It was during the playoffs and I think the Patriots were in. And so I was breaking into bars up and down like Byron Bay to try and see the playoffs. It was wild.

What did they eat? Oh, so we had to wake up at 5 and we didn't have, we had a, it was a wood grill. We had a grill, but we put wood in it. And that was how we cooked everything. Cooked everything over wood. So we had to get a fucking fire started. It was all vegan with some, like if we got cheese was like a treat and um we would have to get the fire going to even like make coffee or porridge or anything and then we'd make lunch right after breakfast was done and then there was no dinner it's just like whatever

was left over from lunch really so i didn't eat very well and we had to do four hours of work leftover from lunch. Really? So I didn't eat very well. And we had to do four hours of work to stay on the ashram. Like hard manual labor. Four hours a day? Just for your room and board. In the bush! In the Australian bush. What kind of stuff? Well, there was

this Malaysian way of raking that was really interesting where we would mow but then you'd rake it all into a line and you'd have to put it in a tarp and take it all away out of these fields and it was like a really interesting way of taking away all the scraps we had cold showers there were all kinds of bugs and shit trying to kill me all the time um it was wild it was a wild it was a wild experience and there was so much drama because

everybody was swapping partners like so much drama it's supposed to be this place where you go and meditate and get in touch and it was like as the tp turned it was just like non-stop non-stop drama with like all that and he encouraged it and loved it and that's what's weird about these places is they use that to manipulate you into staying. Oh, my God. Have you ever talked to Adam Eget about his cult experience? No. Yeah.

You know Adam from the Comedy Store? He's the creative director of the Comedy Store. He's coming on the podcast soon. Oh, I love Adam. I love Adam, too. Yeah. He's the best. He is.

He's got a crazy cult background. No way. My friend Todd, who's a great guy not a cult member at all super normal guy he watched the first episode of Wild Wild Country and he was like this looks great

they're having so much fun I go I know I know but stay with it because in the beginning you're like oh yeah like regular life is bullshit oh yeah yeah like our society is bullshit wouldn't it be great if we just all loved each other we all embraced our fears and understood our our position in the universe and we're kind to each other and and and let go let go of all this fear and all this bullshit and what what better way to do it than to get a bunch of like-minded people and move to a spot in Oregon? Well, in the piece I wrote about it, I said I had a lot of conflicting feelings because it's amazing how quickly my biorhythms adjusted to waking up at 5 or 6, you know, living just the lack of waste.

We had the compostable toilets so that the poo became manure, you know, like man-ure. This was the same on the weed farms too and it's nice to just not feel like you you're creating all that waste because i know that every time i get like a package from amazon i'm like this is not sustainable right it's all waste it could be sustainable with hemp paper that's what's really crazy i mean all this stuff could be fixed all this chopping down of trees you could make it's some crazy number of like if you take 100 acres of hemp how much more paper you could get out of 100 acres of hemp and 100 acres of trees because you could regrow it every year whereas if you're regrowing trees you're not making paper out of those trees for years no for years they're gonna grow and then you gotta kill them in their prime hemp is like the buffalo

of plants it's nuts it's nuts you can use every part of it my friend todd mccormick said it's alien yeah and he's he's like a real marijuana wizard like he really understands the history of it yeah but if you look at the compounds of it, he goes, there's nothing like it on this planet. And then if you pick up the stock, like he had a, you remember Jack Harrow? Jack Harrow was a guy who wrote The Emperor Wears No Clothes. It was a book about his transition from being a Goldwater Republican to being like a pot evangelist. Oh, okay. And I was very fortunate to meet him and know him.

Oh, okay. And I was very fortunate to meet him and know him. But he had this fucking, it was either Todd or him, had this stalk of hemp. And it's like, it feels like balsa wood. It's so weird. But it's hard. Like this oak. But it's the strangest plant.

Yeah, it is weird. It doesn't make any sense. Like, there's nothing like this. Yeah. Everything that's hard, like if you have a piece of mahogany, like it's heavy it's hard as fuck like oak is heavy but it's hard as fuck hemp is hard as fuck and it's light yeah it's weird it's really weird it makes the best paper you're fucked with hemp paper you can't even rip it it's weird it's i'm not kidding it has so much um fibers are so strong it's just a different kind of thing. Oh, I know. Well, we used to have to like break all the stalks at the end when we tear the whole garden down at the end of the season.

And it was fun, but it was a lot of work. And those plants, definitely. I loved working on the farms because they just, as far as not to sound all hippie, but it radiates love. There's something in them, right? Those gardens just radiate love. And I would love going in the morning when there was dew on the plants and there'd be sun coming up and it was just so, you could feel so much. There's something special about them for sure.

There's something going on you feel when you're next to them, especially if you go to a grow-up and there's a bunch of them in the room. There's a tangible difference you feel when you're in the room almost like you're around these little angels i know like you just love from like yeah you guys real yeah it feels so nice yeah it's it's good it's a shame sometimes the culture around it gets a little aggro like especially up in humboldt it can be our humble is really weird because it's like it's it's built on crime essentially yeah it was an illegal business aggro it's like there's a kind of aggressive weed bro type that i think that's because the fact that was a crime so you get like yeah toting guns yeah and like

their rvs and their dread and humboldt's i mean it's gorgeous up there but it's definitely um compared to some of the more family operated places that I was on, there was a whole different vibe and Humboldt. And in that area, it was like, whoa, the like the guns and the guards and the dogs and the. Well, these people have been illegally operating out there forever. But same with a lot of the other people that were kind of great. I mean, the people I was working for, they were like third generation. So they were like, oh, gee. And it was still very loving and family oriented.

And the whole vibe was very gentle. It wasn't as like aggressive. Did you ever watch the documentary The Union? No. The Union is by my friend uh scott court scourgy and adam scourgy sorry um adam scourgy has this uh i haven't seen him since like 2010 or something he um had this documentary that he did about vancouver and about how vancouver had this underlying economy that was all weed based.

It's like the thing that was keeping, like, you look at the economy. If you look at the economy, like, where's all the money coming from? Oh, well, there's industry. We manufacture cars. We do this. We do that. There was this whole section. It was just weed.

Weed and weed money. And it wasn't legal. You know? He also did the documentary The Culture High, which is another great movie on marijuana. But The Union is all about this one particular area where you see how intertwined pot growing is and how it's kind of accepted but still kind of illegal. Yeah, yeah. That was the weird thing about it in kind of 2000 of 2000 you know 2006 when it was shifting it was just that vibe of like it was it had been illegal and then it was in this weird gray area and it was

still illegal even when i was working there but everyone's like is that illegal i'm like it's kind of a gray area yeah it's um legal to grow a certain amount medicinally. And then by the time it became legal, here's the real problem. The real problem, have you ever heard of what's going on with the cartels? Cartels growing weed in public land out here? Oh, yeah, I've heard about this, like in the forests and stuff. There's a guy named John Norris. He's been on the podcast before.

He was a game warden that when he signed up to be a game warden, it's because he's a guy who enjoys the outdoors. Thought it'd be great. You know, just going around, making sure everybody's following the regulations, check your fishing license, that kind of stuff. That's what he thought it was going to be. Turned out he had to run a fucking tactical unit to stop the cartels from these grow-ups and getting gunfights.

And they're using dogs, sick dogs, sick among fucking cartel members. It's crazy. And it shows how it all starts for him, that they found this one diverted stream, and it was a very important stream for Steelhead. And these fish were kind of fucked because the water had somehow or another been diverted and dried up. So they thought, well, let's just follow the stream,

get to the source of it, and it's probably some sort of an issue that we can solve. Well, they get to the source of it, and it turns out there's a giant Mexican cartel illegal grow up. Oh, my God. And they've diverted all this water, and then on top of that, they're using super toxic pesticides. Yeah, yeah, they don't use the- And poison to keep the animals from eating the leaves. poison to keep the animals from eating the leaves and then you get this poison that's in the fucking plant when you're selling it and He's like 90% of the places that are where the where marijuana is illegal and they're getting they're getting it from the cartels Toxic spewed on weed and they're distributed and they're growing it in California in all the state parks

Growing it in the National Forest. They're growing it in this public land. They go out into the mountains. I have a friend who found a camp like this at Tahoe Ranch. I would run. They didn't know what to do. They're like, these are ranchers. They stumble upon all this piping and all this stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah.

And they're like, what in the fuck is this? And then they found all these marijuana plants. And they called, I don't know, they called the sheriff's office or whatever. And they came down and torched it. It's weird. I wonder how the illegal market's doing now that it's legal. They're still doing well because it's not legal everywhere. That's the point of his book.

And there's so much regulation. Well, it should be legal everywhere because all you're doing is propping up the Mexican cartels. Did you see the shit that was happening in Sinaloa yesterday? No. There are gunfights in the streets. Oh, God. The cartels are having gunfights.

Go to Ed's manifesto, his Instagram page. He's got this video where these people are hiding behind a wall and you're just watching. Machine guns in the streets. Yeah. And this is all because of the cartels. This is all, and the cartels are pumped up because of what? Illegal drugs.

It's all, that's their source of revenue. Big marijuana is, you always laugh when I say that, but there is big weed and it's taking out a lot of the independent, you know, mom and pop growers. It's like the Amazon of weed. Yeah, well, i'm sure that's gonna happen with everything that's worth money right yeah but i there i have i don't know i have mixed feelings about that too because in places where there's this beautiful soil they're paving

over the soil and putting up like huge domes where there's no ambient light and now you have light pollution in places because they're growing everything indoor because you can control it obviously so and you can keep the lights on all yeah it's like it's like a fucking ufo just landed and all day and he's like beautiful woods with some of the best soil in america and i i definitely um the hippie in me is like no we're going too far but in their defense that's how you make weed grow quicker. Yeah, but. You're doing it right. I'm probably smoking some of that weed right now.

Probably. Probably. Probably. But you're also destroying an economy of local mom and pop growers. Ah, sloppy hippies. You should have planned for the future. You should have wrapped up your business years ago and hired guns armed guns so have you been baking bread no tom papa has though i know i was gonna i start i got i got hooked i ate with my family we all ate the whole loaf in like two

days i was gonna bring you some but i saw that i thought you were like gluten-free or some shit i'm mostly gluten gluten-free yeah um but. I'm mostly gluten-free. Yeah. But when I can get some sourdough bread, I will eat the fuck out of it. Oh, okay. That's good to know. It doesn't seem to bother me. There's something about sourdough. I don't know if you know this, but also that there's less gluten in it. Yeah.

Like way less. I didn't know this. Yeah. See if you can pull up why that is. Why is there less gluten in sourdough? It's been explained. Do you know what it is? Do you know the answer?

I wasn't going to guess. It's because he's using the heirloom flour and he's only got three ingredients in there. There's just less stuff in sourdough? It's been explained. Do you know what it is? Do you know the answer? I wasn't going to guess. It's because he's using the heirloom flour, and he's only got three ingredients in there. There's just less stuff in it. Yeah, I mean, maybe because of the heirloom flour. But I also think there's a reason because of sourdough. There's something about the process of sourdough. Was Tom already baking? He's been baking for years, for sure.

I definitely, I was sick the first couple weeks of the lockdown. Oh, no. Were you worried? I was worried. And I thought I had it until your little, I'm not sure how accurate, but it's. What kind of cold symptoms did you have? I was sick. I had a fever and it would spike at night.

And I did have like some chest shortness of breath and a cough that came, but I kicked it. But it was like it was hanging on. So in that time, I couldn't work out and I was going crazy. And it's got to be some kind of DNA thing. What is the bread thing? It's just delicious. No, but why? You can't get flour anywhere.

It's like. But what do you mean some kind of DNA thing? What is it that everyone went on lockdown and it activated? We must bake bread. I've never experienced that. That's what happened. There's a run on flour. To you and Tom Papa.

And you think it's the whole. Oh, no, there's a run. You can't get flour. There's flour shortages. Well, that's because it's a staple. Like rice was. There was a rice shortage. I think it's like a DNA thing.

Well, toilet paper. Is that DNA thing too? Because that was the big. No, but that just might be heard, you know, like sheepleness. Well, Tom Green had a great analogy, a great theory on that. He said, if you look at how big, how much space toilet paper takes up on the shelf, he goes, it's a lot of space for like one roll of toilet paper or one package of toilet paper.

And so they only can keep so much. I was like, oh, that makes sense. And then when people see it empty, then they panic. When they see toilet paper, they buy it and hoard it i was like uh because they've limited they've started limiting it now but yeah i think my friend um was just on the podcast he works at a nautical themed grocery store and he was saying that he thinks that it's just um like i was asking him about the psychology behind this and he was saying he thinks that one person would take three, and then the person standing next to them sees that and is like, oh, shit, I need to take three. And then that person sees there's empty toilet paper shelves and people are stocking up, and then it just becomes this spiraling.

And then you start seeing it online, and it became like a spiraling freak out. There was a lot of logic. There was a lot of freaking out. It was weird. I freaked out in the beginning. I was a little worried in the beginning because I was worried that it was going to be as bad as they were saying. And then as the numbers came in, especially the numbers of people that weren't experiencing any symptoms and the numbers of people that went through it and didn't even know they had ever had it

and they tested positive because someone in their family had had it and they had the antibodies and it's like, wow, what is this fucking thing? It's weird. It's like you're talking about a multitude of different diseases. Yeah.

It really is. It's very different. Have you been going crazy not being able to do stand-up? Where's all that energy going? Well, I... I've been worried about you. I just accept things.

I'm good at accepting things. Huh. Yeah. I've learned how to do that in my life, you know? This is just how it is. Are you enjoying, are you spending more time with the kids? Yes. I'm enjoying that.

I'm enjoying that. It's weird for them, though, because they have to do school online, and it kind of sucks. They're just not good at it. It's not, it doesn't feel, like, I sat in to watch one of them. I'm like, this is so uninspiring. Yeah. If I was a kid, first of all, I was a fuck up in school. Yeah.

So if they ever did this to me while I was in high school, I would have just quit school. Yeah. I would 100% quit school at 16 if this was what was going on. I'd be like, well, the world's ending. Why the fuck am I going to sit in front of a computer all day and listen to this

mopey dork tell me what to do? This fuck. So I've been, I've been, you know, weirded out, but also enjoying the time together.

But then also very fortunate that I have this place. I can come here. I work out here. I can, I can do a lot of stuff here. I get to do podcasts still. So I get to hang out with people like you. Get to hang out with my friends.

Have a good time. But for sure, I miss stand-up. And I don't like the idea that these bureaucrats get to tell us what to do and what not to do. I don't like it. What's that going to look like? What are they planning on doing when they open up? Is it going to be limited seating? I mean, how are you going to go on your tours?

I'm at the Forum November 1st. It's almost sold out. And it's like, that's... It's just going to be like me and a mannequin on either side of me. I'm like, what am I going to do? That's a real show that I have in LA. That's a real show that I have in LA. That's the biggest show that I have in LA, right? It's like 9,000 people.

Is that possible? I don't even know yet. I don't know. I think you should let people make a choice for themselves. Make them get tested. And there should be a place, like, you know how you sign up to vote? You should be able to sign up to get tested. I don't want something that tracks you where you carry it on your phone.

No, no. I don't want that. But I want it like a ticket. Yeah. You know how you have, like, if you get an electronic ticket, you get that ticket and you can bring it to them, scan your ticket, and then you can get on board a plane, right? Yeah. Why don't they do that with testing?

They can do that with testing. And so if you want to go somewhere, like you want to go to a concert, scan it. Is it valid? It's two days ago. Oh, okay. And have you left your house. Is it valid? It's two days ago. Okay. And have you left your house? Have you been doing heroin in two days? No, but at least it would help.

The number one thing that we need to concentrate on is the number one thing that you don't hear a goddamn peep about, and that's nutrition and health. Yeah. Those are the things. Stress. Managing your stress. This is how to meditate.

You fucks. Take some of those taxpayer money and set up, take some of that tax money and set up some sort of an online resource that can show people how they can improve their immune system. Show them, have little meditation courses, you fucks. Do you think that people are becoming more succumbing to bad habits or improving themselves? I would think it's both. I mean, you can't generalize because people handle things. Some people have been amazing through this.

Right. And some people I've become bigger fans of because of the way they've handled this. And then there's some people that I can't talk to. I'm like, you fucking pussy. You're falling apart. Like, I know people that are scared to go outside. Yeah. Like, they don't want to do anything. Yeah. They don't want to go in. you fucking pussy. You're falling apart. Yeah. Like I know people that are scared to go outside. Yeah. Like they don't want to do anything.

Yeah. They don't want to go in. I hear it's worse than they say. I hear it's worse than they're telling us. Where are they getting that information? It's more attractive to them than the opposite. But can they afford for it to be attractive? Some of them.

Yes. I'm talking about some of them are wealthy people. Because I know people who have both fears. They might be not healthy, but they're also poor. And they're more afraid of being poor. You know, they're trying to balance these things like, I need

to still go to work because I can't. They're balancing the risk. Here's a fake narrative that it's either money or lives. That's a fake narrative. And this is why it's a fake narrative. If the economy collapses, the deeper it collapses, the more lives it's going to cost. And that's a fact. This is a real statistic. You can actually measure this. The way the economy goes, correspondingly, you will see a loss of life. If the economy goes down, if there's more depression, if there's economy goes down, if there's more depression,

if there's more drug addiction, if there's more suicide, you will see a loss of life that's directly attributable to the way people respond to the economy collapsing. Is that factual? Yes. I mean, I definitely... Bloomberg had a report on it. And there's an equation. Like in how the economy dips,

you'll see a corresponding loss of life due to suicide, corresponding loss of life due to drug addiction and overdose. There's a look, depression is for sure. It's, it takes in a lot of factors. Some people have it just genetically. Some people have it because of the circumstance. Well, as your circumstance erodes, it's much more likely that you're going to be depressed. Oh, I agree. I just, I remember much more likely that you're going to be depressed. Oh, I agree. I just I remember reading an article that kind of pushed back on this. There were all these statistics and studies done after the Great Depression. And actually, it weirdly kicked in people's resilience. But listen, what you said after the Great Depression.

Right. So everything falls apart and it kicks in people's resilience. And the people that survive are the ones that you can look at the actual studies, because I'm not sure when it started counting the lives that were lost. My grandparents went through the Depression and I used to talk to them about it. And when my grandmother died, one of the things they found little coffee cans filled with money all over the house. Yeah. Dollars and change store them in all different places. They were terrified. They were terrified. They were terrified of things going south.

Yeah. I mean, I've been poor for so long in terms of being freelance writer and always I do a weird thing where I don't invoice and all of my editors are like, we owe you money. But it's that psychological like, oh, I have money there and I store it all over my house i have money everywhere just like loose change and dollars and because i have that scarcity fear always i take things way farther my fear is that money won't be worth anything right that's my fear yeah you know when someone says oh you should be fine you have money bricks at home no i have guns and i know how to hunt yeah that's what i'm worried about. Like legitimately worried about not having

food. I have water purification tablets. I have pumps. I can pump creek water and get it to the point where my kids can drink it. That's what I'm worried about. Right. Like legitimately. Well, then you're probably. That's a real fear that people should have. I have that fear. Many people are starting to understand it's people like you and me and everybody else are responsible for the food chain. This food supply chain. This food supply is

not permanent. It's not just going to stay there. And all these ranchers that have been struggling to pay their bills. Struggling. Now they're fucked. We treat our farmers like such shit. I feel like it's. Well, we're not aware because we're not near them.

Right. And that's what it is. I think that even my friend who I interviewed, he was saying people are thanking him for his service and he hates it at the nautical grocery store. And he was. But I think that it's people who have never even had to consider the food supply chain are considering it. And they're suddenly like, oh my God, thank you. Remember how they were really pumped about firemen? Yeah, after 9-11.

Yeah. People who generally don't get, who provide a service and just kind of go fly under the radar. Yeah. But yeah, I don't think people consider much where their food comes from or how it even gets on the shelves. They're definitely doing it more so now. And there's also a lot of people are inquiring about hunting. They're looking into it. There's an uptick in searches.

And gardening. And I get a lot of questions about gardening, hunting, and prepping. You know? I used to think those people were out of their fucking minds. No. Because I used to consider like, oh, well, if there's a natural disaster, like if Yellowstone blows, you really want to be right next to it. Like, fuck this. Yeah, we're close.

You don't want to be surviving nuclear winter when everything becomes this fucking horrible gray sky wasteland and everyone's freezing and choking it's not good and that's that's what's happened to human beings before when there was a point in time where um we've done this so many times whatever the volcano was there was a super volcano that blew somewhere around 60 70 000 years ago um i forget where it was was it indonesia. And it killed most of the people on the planet. Oh, wow. Most of the people. We got down to a few thousand people. That was like 70,000 years ago.

Wow. It's really nuts. Yeah, that's crazy. This has happened many times. It's just these things happen. They just don't happen enough where they happen during our lifetime where we say, oh, that's a thing we have to worry about. So now we've experienced a real global pandemic during our lifetime where we say, oh, that's a thing we have to worry about. So now we've experienced a real global pandemic during our lifetime.

So now we're like, now this is something we know we have to worry about. Yeah. I mean, it's a little bit light. Like it's pandemic light. It's certainly not like the 1918. Not even close. But look how we're reacting. Right.

We're reacting like it is. Which I think was precautionary. But it's still going on. That doesn't make any sense. I know. Now they're asking people to rat people out if you're fucking opening up your business. This is Gestapo shit. Yeah, it's what's always worried is are we the frog in the boiling water

where at a certain point you say, hey, everybody self-lockdown and don't work. And everyone's like, yeah, I'm not stoked about it, but okay, I'll do that for my fellow man. And then a couple of months go by and the numbers come in and you're not seeing the outbreak in Florida from the spring breakers. You're not seeing the... Well, they've been open now. Yeah.

I was just there. I flew to florida last week for the ufc yeah saturday night i flew in and so they're just i went to a restaurant bridget sat down had a steak had a glass of wine my friend eddie bravo we sat down and ate together like gentlemen like doesn't it look weird when you see it and and it was strange at the restaurant because it was like us and then then this other older couple walked in. There was maybe one other couple towards the front and a couple young people at the bar. Fairly sparse.

All the waiters had face masks on. Yeah. But we ate. We ate dinner. But now the conspiracy theorist in me is like, now they're going to see how far they can fucking push it. Well, I don't think that's a conspiracy theory. I think that is just like your cult friend that was calling you a scumbag and trying to break you down. Yeah.

When you're in a position of power, there's an archetype of a person in a position of power and then all the potential things that can go wrong when a person's in a position of power. All the abuses of that power. I mean, they're documented, right, throughout history. But this is one of them. Control. I'm telling you what to do. You want more rights? You want to get your rights back?

Well, daddy says you got to put your mask on, even though it doesn't make any sense. So we're all grounded. You got to put your mask on. It's like we're all grounded. But here's the thing. It's not like things are getting worse, but their grip is getting tighter. Right. Yeah. It's not like things are getting worse, but their grip is getting tighter. Right. Yeah, that's what is deeply—rights are generally not given back once they're taken.

Exactly. And that's what the problem is. And this is what the problem—when people want to talk about Marxism and all the positive benefits of socialism, it'd be great if everybody helped all the people that weren't doing so well and chipped on in. It would be great. But the problem with the big state, the big government, is what you're seeing now. Regular people making shit decisions. Regular people.

Gavin Newsom is a person. He's not a genius. He's not a wizard. He's not from another planet. He's a human being who grew up in the United States of America, and he has this incredible amount of power, over 40 million people in the state. And he's deciding, we're going to go step one, and you're going to be allowed to go

outside and look at the sunset. You can do yoga. Don't go near anybody. You can golf. No cart. And he's got a... Masks. Yeah, and they put this fucking list of shit that you can do and you can't do, and then they get to tell people. They get to tell people, not yet! Not yet! We're going to open up a little bit

on May 15th. Okay, a little bit. A little bit. What can we do? You can go to the beach now, but don't sit down. Yeah, you can't freaking sit down. You can't tell people what to do like that. You can't. It doesn't make sense. This is what you tell people. Please be cautious. Please use social distancing. Let's be smart.

Let's take care of our vulnerable people. Vulnerable people? And let's take care of be smart. Let's take care of our vulnerable people. And let's take care of our health. Let's take care of our bodies. To eat correct. This is a good opportunity for you to cut all the bullshit out of your diet. Stop eating so much sugar. Stop drinking so much. Stop smoking cigarettes. This is a good time

to work on your health. Because what you're seeing across the board is vulnerable people that are getting really sick from this. Whether they're vulnerable because they have underlying health conditions or they were stressed out or they're hospital workers, they're vulnerable because they're getting this massive viral load from all these people. Viral load sounds so dirty.

It's a great word. No, it just sounds so dirty. Every time I hear it, I'm like... You get it in sperm. COVID is in sperm, so that's a real I hear it, I'm like. Well, you find out that it's coming. You get it in sperm. Like, COVID is in sperm. So that's a real viral load. That is viral load. Every time I hear it, I'm like, that's the dirtiest term, but I love it.

Have you seen the prisoners giving each other COVID? Oh, I saw that video. Isn't that crazy? I never know what's real, though. I always have to, like, fact check and go find and see if the video is real and go. Right. Which everyone should be doing, by the way. Most people aren't.

I don't either. I fuck up all the time. I'll see it and I'm like, yeah. And then I'm like, easy, Bridget. Settle down. I know. Let's look at this one carefully. This one confirms a lot of your biases.

You might want to double check. When you find out that prisoners are getting released that are even like sex offenders, like violent sex offenders are getting released. And they're putting like a hairdresser in jail. But it's so crazy. Like, oh, you might get a cough. We're going to have to let you go. Don't rape any kids while you're out there.

You little knucklehead. You're supposed to be in jail. You're supposed to be in jail for 30 years. But we're going to let you out because we don't want you to get a cough. Yeah. I don't. All of it. Again, I come back to trying to stay optimistic in the face of conditions that feel like they're rapidly deteriorating.

No, it is. But you don't even get high. That's the problem. You have to stay sober. It's not for you. It is for me. I picked the worst fucking decade to get sober ever. I mean, what an idiot.

I got sober in 2013, which means I got sober right before Trump started running and now through a fucking pandemic. But honestly, I have been able to. I'm actually grateful because. Do you know how much the alcohol consumption is up? If any indication of how much bread I've been eating is how much weed and beer and alcohol I'd be consuming, I would be in the hospital with cirrhosis of the liver yeah you're you're becoming you're just using that the bread not really i mean i i like it because it's a challenge because it's really fucking hard to make challenge making sourdough bread making it okay it's a fucking challenge no what is it hey look up how many people are...

Alcoholics. How much alcohol consumption is up. Where, though? Just overall, United States alcohol consumption. Down in restaurants and bars, though. Yeah, I know. That's the problem. It's actually up, even though...

Everyone's drinking alone. Listen, just Google it, you fuck. I know, but I'm trying... I gotta figure out what to Google. How about Google alcohol consumption up during pandemic? Because someone was telling me this, and it can't be true. At houses? Within houses?

Or from grocery stores? Just overall alcohol consumption. Just Google alcohol consumption up during pandemic. Because what he was telling me is, he goes, listen to this. Bars are closed, right? Because alcohol consumption is way up. He goes, think about that. Yeah. I don't know how he knows this but he's a person that would know that have you seen the like zoom happy hours oh the people get hammered on

zoom those things i would i would rather die than get hammered with a bunch of people on zoom i i'm like drink alone like a fucking real man. Don't do this happy hour. I don't know. I get it. Drink alone like a fucking real man. But seriously. Is there anything, Jamie? The first Forbes opinion article says there's a survey that was taken of 2,000 adults.

It says 16% were drinking more, 19% drinking less. Yeah. I mean, I don't know where they're getting the number from. Yeah. It's a lot to. His statistic was much higher than that. It was like in the high 30s. 30% increase in alcohol consumption during the pandemic. Yeah, because everybody's day drinking.

That's what I'm saying. There was that meme that was going around that was hilarious. Like, pray for the teachers next year who are going to have kids coming in who have been taught by their moms who have been, or their parents who have been day drinking? Like their parents who have been... I have been day drinking, but I've been drinking wine. I drink wine every night. I'll have a glass of wine. You are a pretty moderate drinker anyway, though.

Yes. Yeah. I'll go off the rails a couple times a year, especially on Fight Companions when we do these Fight Companion podcasts. That's probably the hardest I drink ever. We get hammered. Here's the best statistic I found, but that doesn't mean much. Off-premises alcohol sales.

Off-premises alcohol sales were up 55% in the third week of March this year. Okay, well, that makes sense because people are drinking at home. But I wonder if overall, while most people in the United States remain stuck at home during COVID-19 pandemic, many are increasing their alcohol purchases and likely their consumption. No, they're just stockpiling it and using it for hand sanitizer. According to the data reported by Nielsen, an international measurement of the data analytics company. So up 55 percent. Off-premise alcohol sales were up 55 percent.

alcohol sales were up 55%. So I wonder what that means in terms of overall, like what percentage of alcohol sales were done in bars and restaurants and what percentage was, I guess that's what off-premises means. Yeah, you would have to really know what, that would be hard. Yeah, you'd have to know how much alcohol was sold to the restaurants. And then all that's hard to find because it's usually through, it's not like a retail. You're getting it.

Right. 55% is a big number though. Yeah. That's big. But I think a lot of, I mean, I don't know. If I was drinking,

I'd be drinking a lot. I can tell you that. The reason why I brought it up is the friends that I have were like, they would maybe have a glass of wine at night. Now they're going through a bottle or two every night. That was my normal.

I've seen their faces fill out. Yeah, yeah. Everybody's getting thick. Yeah. I was, I definitely, the first, you know, like I was saying, the first three weeks I was kind of sick. So I started baking bread because I needed a challenge because I couldn't work out. And man, that like quarantine, the COVID-19 is real. But now I have another, now I have another challenge.

The bread baking? No, now I can, now I have to lose the COVID-19 is real. But now I have another challenge. The bread baking? No, now I have to lose the COVID-19 that I gained. Oh, the COVID-19 pounds. Yeah, bread will put it on you. Well, so like not doing anything and not moving. I think there was like three weeks where I was like, you took seven steps today. So sick.

Just staying at home. Do you have exercise equipment at home? I do. Yeah. And so my sisters and I have been doing, this has been fun. We've been doing, we call it something is better than nothing. Because all of us, the first couple weeks, we're just off the rails with the sweets. My other sister was baking.

And she's like, I need to dial it back. So we started doing workout videos to but we to hold each other accountable we zoom and so then we share the screen and it's so fun i mean i wish i could record my sisters are hilarious why is that okay but it's not okay to drink on zoom it's fine to drink on zoom i just don't i can't imagine so here's my issue it's hard enough for me to work out because you can see yourself on Zoom. So that's already, I'm fine with that. I'm used to going to a gym and seeing myself in a mirror and working out in a class.

I'm not used to seeing myself drinking while I drink. And so the idea of being on a Zoom with people and being able to see my little square head getting wasted. But you're not supposed to look at you. You're supposed to look at them. No, I know. But you're still able to see my little square head getting wasted. But you're not supposed to look at you. You're supposed to look at them. No, I know, but you're still able to see yourself. I'm just going to put a little, I don't know. Do you know, like amongst your friends, are people ramping up their alcohol consumption,

the people that you know that drink? Yes and no. But I was on a family, I'm on a family, like it's funny, in the beginning everyone's like, we're going to have these like group texts, we're going to keep each other sane. And after three weeks, it's just nobody here. You never hear from anyone.

No one keeps it together after a month. A month is where everybody starts going off the rails. Well, and it's funny because everybody just started. Everyone adjusted, and they were back in their own lives. But it was mostly just us sharing memes of the guy with the big dick and all the funny memes that were going around. But it was family members, cousins. Like I said, I have a huge family. So cousins.

We're all around the same age. And it was all of them sharing their booze supplies because they were afraid that the stores were going to be shut indefinitely. That's how a lot of my friends were talking about it, too. They were worried that they wouldn't be able to get booze. They would have to go through this sober. Yeah, and I think— Do you find that, Jamie? Your friends?

Are friends your age getting hammered? No. No? Same age, I don't think so. No more. I'm probably smoking a little more weed, but I don't know. So do you think it's like an older suburban thing? No, they're always drinking.

Like the wine moms are just still more, they're just maybe more wine moms. But I think they're going, but I'm trying to think it was a generational thing. Like how are kids in their 20s handling that? They're not getting drunk every day. I don't know. They're probably more pliable too. They have less to lose. So all this shit's going down like, what am I going to do?

Dude, if I was, so my nephew, it was his first year of college, and now he's back at home. And he's great. He's like super active. But if I was like a 20-year-old who wasn't in college and was back in my parents' basement, I was partying when I was like 17 at home. I would be really worried about the future, though. Wouldn't you be worried about the future if you're 20 and you saw this? I don't know.

It's funny because either my nephew's just like a badass or super resilient, but he just, he's like, ah, it's fine. He might be a moron. He's not sure. Are you testing him? He's not sure if he's going to go back to college because he doesn't want to pay for, you know. Yeah, well, that's the kid with my kid's school, too.

My kid's going to private school. He's not going to pay for all the money to have a lazy teacher socially distance teach you? No way. He's like, I'm not taking on this debt. Here's the thing. The death rate between kids is so fucking low. It's crazy. It's so low.

You're talking about all the way up into college. The death rate is so small that it doesn't make any sense to keep them out of school. It doesn't make any sense to keep them out of school. It doesn't make any sense. I think a lot of the, you know, I think Alabama and all those colleges were talking about how they were going back. What do they really teach down there, though? It's football. They've got to get the college football going. Yeah, that is a thing, right?

What are they going to do with these stadiums that are going to be filled with people? I don't think they're going to allow that. I don't know. Do you know, Jim? Fox says there's been speculation for the NFL that they're going to be filled with people. When are they going to allow that? Do you know, Jim? There's been speculation for the NFL that they're going to pump in, I think probably just for the people watching, but crowd noise and fake fans.

No, no, no, you can't. It's talking about, but this is still four months ahead. I'm going to go to a Joe Rogan show and it's going to be canned laughter pumped into the stadium. Canned laughter and a few heckles. Who's saying this? Fox, I think.

That is so dumb. That would be so offensive. That's just preparing us for this new world. What's the new world, Joe? The new world is social distancing. We're all in the Matrix. There's no reality. Are they just trying to get us to be in our house and order shit?

I was joking that this is like a plot by Amazon and Netflix to just get us all inside. I was joking this is a plot from AI to get us to the symbiotic relationship that's inevitable, where human beings are going to merge with some form of technology. Right. It's already happened with things you carry around, like your phone or your glasses or something that someone's made that you can't live without that makes your life better. Yeah. It's eventually going to be a part of you.

It's going to get inside of you. Yeah, yeah. And once that gets inside of you, you're going to want it to get, you're going to be more and more and more immersed in that world and some people like man I don't want that I want to live in the real world I want to be able to go to the lake I don't be able to hug people and touch people well what better way to stop that shit from taking place you can't go anywhere you got to stay inside so all your world is virtual you can't come near anybody because they

might kill you with their fucking spit do you think that people will put up with that though yeah I mean are putting up with this. Is this how America breaks up? Does it become the pro-open and pro-closed states and then we just divorce? Well, this is what's happening. It's right-wing, left-wing. Left-wing

people want the government to take care of everything. They want everybody to get checks and they want everybody to stay home forever until there's a cure. It's not going to be a cure. This is something that's going to be around. And we might have herd immunity and might be able to wipe it out that way. But this is not something that they can just spray away or inject away. Right. So this is something we'll hopefully one day they'll have some sort of a real treatment, whether it's a vaccine or whatever it is. We're probably going to have to take a vaccine every couple of years or every year or something like that.

None of this is good. I mean, you get the flu shot if you get it, and it's not going to keep you from getting the flu. There's still other strains that are out there. But it helps you even if you do get those strains that aren't the strain. Exactly. Then there's herd immunity, right, where more more than 60 of the people get it the virus sort of dies off that's that's a that's a positive possibility in the future but the p there's people that are want to want to get back to work and there's people that don't want anyone to go

anywhere and those and it's become this sort of again this ideological battleground where the people that want to go back to work, you're putting dollars over money. You know, like when someone said, you're going to be the richest man in the cemetery to Elon Musk because he wants to open up his factory. Like, what are you talking about? Like, are we going to be just stay home forever? We're going to be scared of everything.

Why would you drive when you know how many people die in driving accidents? Stay home. Don't do anything. And I think this is put, you know, the we make these calculations all the time about how many people is it acceptable to die. It's just not so in our face, for instance, with opioids or the opiate. If you're using these to help people manage pain, but, you know, a certain amount of people might become addicted or die. There's all kinds of trade-offs that we're making driving another good example. So we're constantly making these cost benefit analysis in our society. It's just not usually you have to make it, you know, now it's like you have to be part of the person who's saying, am I going to be? But it's also there's so much false information or confusing information. And I don't again, I come back to what we started talking about. I don't know that a lot of people know who to believe. And if you just believe your tribe, it's much easier. I think if I was just like gobbling up all the CNN or gobbling up all the Fox,

I would be happy little fricking no nihilism Bridget. Or you'd be angry wanting to overthrow the government and not wanting to, you know, get things back to the way things used to be. Or I'd be terrified and not leaving my house

because I was worried that I was going to get... There's all those things. But if you just look at the raw numbers and this doesn't discount any of the deaths, doesn't discount the tragedy. I know people are, but my grandma, but my friend. I knew a guy. I knew a guy. He was young.

Everybody knows a guy. You're right. But if you just look at the overall numbers, this is not what we thought it was going to be. It's really simple. And this is why you want to move. Yeah. I don't like that they're telling me that you have to stay home. Yeah.

I don't like that they're telling me you have to wear a mask when you go outside. No, if I'm around people and you want me to wear a mask in a business or something like that, okay. Yeah. I'm fine with that. Until everything settles down and we figure this out, okay. But you can't tell me I leave the house, I have to put a mask on. What about if I walk around in my backyard? Do I have to have a mask on?

What does that mean? If I'm running on a trail, I have to run on a trail with a mask on? The fuck out of here. This is stupid. In your ideal way to transition back, what would it look like? Let people take risks. Let people do what they want to do. But educate

them. Educate them in terms of their immune system. educate them in terms of like here's where it could go bad This is why you need to wash your hands Like one of the things I said is that women were getting it less than men people like why I'm like cuz we're gross We don't wash we're fucking disgusting So guys are picking their nose after they're touching a faucet and other people touched it. Is that why they're getting it more? It could be a bunch of factors. But I would guarantee that one of them is that men are gross. Yes, men are gross.

Yeah, I guarantee you that has to play some sort of a part in it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's been somebody, I think a writer, I forget her name, Megan, someone, she had a tweet. She said it's a black, it's a black light. No, it's a, yeah, it's a black light on like the sperm filledground is up to 11 now. And I find that most people are wrestling and don't know really what to do. But I think most people are grown up enough to want to be able to take that risk for themselves. I walk around, I see all these businesses.

I'm like, how are these businesses going to come back? They're not going to. We're going to lose like 40 percent of them. I think you've got to let people make their own decisions. And the decision you've already made has already cost something. It's cost businesses. It's cost a lot. It's cost a lot of people's livelihoods. So it's not like there's no loss here. There's a loss here. And if you don't think there's a loss of life, talk to that are that are dealing with suicide talk to my I know a guy who talked to this sheriff and he was saying that they do everyone does everyone they were saying that he used to deal with one suicide a week now he's dealing with

five a day Wow really yes holy shit yeah that seems like it should be a bigger story but it is a big story but it's just not being talked about because the narrative is always stay here safer, stay at home, this and that. And this is crazy. We went down. There's a real loss that comes with your business going away. Oh, yeah. It's not just loss of life. It's loss of business, loss of livelihood.

And that could lead to loss of life. Yeah. And it's going gonna last for years. It was creepy. I was texting me the pictures of the phosphorescence. It's beautiful. It's amazing. And what are you gonna tell people? They can't go look at nature? And so I think it was

Cinco de Mayo we went down and everybody was out. Like so many people. There were no cops. I couldn't believe it. I was like, yeah. What are the cops gonna do? Yeah, so. You're gonna tell people to get off the beach? Yeah, so. So that night, everyone's wearing masks. Everyone's responsible.

Socially distancing. It was fine. It was really cool. It was chill. You could tell everyone was going crazy, stir crazy. People were partying because it was Cinco de Mayo. It was awesome. I'm like, yeah, good job, California.

I went down the next day and it appears the word had got out. good job, California. I went down the next day and it appears the word had got out. And they had turned the Ferris wheel down at the pier into like a weird, creepy dystopian message. It was just like, hey, support our health care workers. And then there was a red cross in the Ferris wheel and the police were there and they were like, everyone off the beach. The beaches are closed. We will cite you. And no, to the people's credit, no one gave a fuck and didn't move. But they were driving up and down, telling everybody. But it was a creepy vibe with the Ferris wheel and the messaging that had totally changed overnight. I mean, well, go to the hospitals out here.

They're empty. Yeah. It's a real problem. Hospitals are going bankrupt out here. I know. I know. I know. And I read a thing about how a college might go bankrupt, too.

So I don't know how the schools are going to stay afloat. A lot of private schools that are charging exorbitant rates and expect people to do that shit in front of a computer, they're going to go under. Yeah. They're going to go under. But, I mean, again, you at least have a platform you can talk about this and an audience that you hear from. And what's the general feeling? People are furious. Yeah. and an audience that you hear from? And what's the general feeling? People are furious. There's a certain percentage of people that are cowards.

And they just want to trust in the government and let the government make these decisions. They're doing this with sound science. No, but they're not. But they're not. If they were, I'd be like, okay, I get it. Because I was like, okay, I get it in the beginning. I didn't protest it in the beginning.

I canceled gigs. I backed off. I said, I think they're trying to save us. But then when you get the science in, when you get the actual numbers in, you're like, no, this is way different than they thought. They thought it was going to be hundreds of thousands dead in California alone. No, it's a thousand people, 1800 people, whatever it is. Do you think it'll be worse than that? Do you know the average age that people die of this is older than the average age?

Yeah, it's like 85 plus. The average age people die of this is older than the average age people die. Yeah. Like what? I'm worried about Joe Biden. He's got no chance. This is my other question for you while I'm here. What do you think about that?

You were Bernie, bro, right? I like what Bernie stood for. I like the ideas that he stood for. But he was a socialist. This is what I like. I like the ideas of helping the people that are downtrodden, helping communities that are hurt, making it so that college is free for people. You don't have to be financially in debt hundreds of thousands of dollars when you graduate from college. We can take our tax money and put it in good things.

That's what I like about what Bernie stood for. What I like about him is this health care issue that we're dealing with right now. I mean, wouldn't it be great if people didn't have to worry about going bankrupt if they get sick? This is what I like about Bernie Sanders. All those things. And that's what he stood for that made sense to me. I was like, let's try this.

It seems like this is a move towards compassion. I just wonder how feasible those plans were. A lot of people say they're not feasible at all. I was like, let's see. Let's see. Let's see. I don't know that. You know, the idea is like socialism has never worked. But the way he describes it is democratic socialism. He doesn't describe it as a socialism where you're thinking about some sort of military dictatorship like North Korea or something like that or China. It's not the same thing. And when

you equate those two, that's when people get weird. But the problem is whenever people get in the kind of position of power, where they have this big government machine and they control over people, they abuse it. Yeah, I mean, that's the problem. I don't know. Our health care system sucks. But I don't know that I trust the government to make it better because there's nothing that they do that they do very well.

No, there's not one thing. Well, they're really good at the post office. The post office is awesome. Yeah. Post office is one of the best. And, you know, some things are social. I like the national parks. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm all for the national parks. Yeah. But other than that there's i don't know that i would want i i think that the health care thing drives me crazy because i don't i'm again i just feel hopelessly dumb and it's such a huge massive problem and it causes me and so many people i know you know debt and problems and it's not fair to, you shouldn't, I don't understand why it's tied up with your job.

Like that seems like a really silly idea that makes no sense to me. Right. And if you do have a nationalized healthcare system, what do you do about people that abuse their body? What do you do? What do you do about them? It's just so many. Yeah.

They'll let them cost way more money than everybody else. But we're paying for that anyway. Yeah. Even in a private system. Right. But what do you do? What do you do if people just want to keep eating until they explode? What do you do?

I don't know. Do you say, well, all our tax money is going to go to you. No. Because we have to keep you alive. But that's why I understand from a heart perspective. You know, I think when I was reading this stuff that I wrote when I was like 24 and I was a waitress, and I was like, holy shit, I was AOC. Like I sound like AOC. I was fucking outraged. And when you're a bartender, you're always seeing like the downtrodden and you don't, and as a waitress, you generally,

you're not unionized. You don't have really very much protection. If I was still a waitress right now, I'd be fucked. Um, and you don't have anybody really speaking for you you're totally dispensable and I was reading all this stuff and I hated like the whole system I was like burn it all down I didn't have health care because they don't give you health care if you're a waitress it's and so I was reading that I'm like yeah I was her but now that I'm you know 40 I'm like how does this I don't I still don't know how to make this work I still, you know, 40, I'm like, how does this, I don't, I still don't know how to make this work. I still don't know how to change that. I understand from the heart perspective, wanting to help all of the people who are vulnerable and downtrodden. I just don't know

that their solutions are the best solutions, but I don't really know what are. Yeah. It's a human problem and human problems never have an answer. They're always messy. Who do you think Biden's going to choose? Probably Kamala Harris. Really? Yeah. Makes sense. She's the sting of Tulsi Gabbard serving her during the debates has sort of worn off a little bit. And as long as you can keep Tulsi quiet and she doesn't have any opponents now, she's not running against anybody. What if he picked Hillary? What would you do? It would be hilarious. Hillary would just shove her hand deep up his ass and start working his mouth from below like a puppet. She'll turn him into a literal puppet. It's going to be Weekend at Bernie's.

It will be Weekend at Bernie's. It will also be Dick Cheney and George W., right? Because Dick Cheney was really running the show. And George W. is out there fucking sawing wood in Texas and I mean we have a Joe we have a fucking election coming up on the heels of all this shit and now they're talking in California about digital elections and Hillary's behind it so as soon as Hillary says everyone should be safe to vote and voting at home oh this bitch is running a game something's going going on. Everyone's losing it, though. Everyone's losing their minds. I mean, I see all this stuff, too, about Fauci and Gates and the conspiracy theories.

It's so hard because so many conspiracy theories have ended up being true. Listen, Fauci is a virus expert. That's what he's always been. Right. There's no conspiracy. He's a guy. He's a doctor. No, but there are conspiracies around him.

That he's in cahoots with Bill Gates and they did a whole thing. Stop, stop, stop. Yeah. He's a guy who's a virus expert. He's been a virus expert his whole life. If he fucking waited until he's 70 years old to cash in his Illuminati chips and this is it. We've been running this scam for years.

I've been pretending to work on AIDS and all these different diseases and all horseshit. I'm just evil looking to get paid and finally it's coming my way. No, he would have already cashed in his chips. He's not a bad guy. He runs three miles a day. He looks like he does. He's healthy. He looks vibrant. He used to be seven. Now it's three.

Oh, really? Yeah, because he's busy. Oh, is that what he said? Yeah. Good for him. Because he's working on he's busy. Oh, is that what he said? Yeah. Good for him. Because he's working on all the stuff. Look, the only conspiracy that gives me pause is when you see people like Bill Gates saying, we need some sort of a vaccination. We need to vaccinate. Everyone's going to be vaccinated.

Like, okay. we need to vaccinate, everyone's going to be vaccinated. Like, okay. But have there ever been a virus that's ever been, there's a real vaccine that would work for a coronavirus? I don't think there has. I don't think they've had, I don't think they had a virus. They were working on a vaccine rather,

they're working on a vaccine for SARS, but it never happened. And I don't think they've ever had any sort of a vaccine for a coronavirus. Is that what he's saying? He's saying they need a vaccine and they're going to come up with a vaccine and that's the solution. Everybody has to be vaccinated. But I don't know if that's even – you know, the idea is it will take 18 months for a vaccine. Maybe, or maybe they won't come up with one. Right.

It's possible that they won't have a vaccine in 18 months. So what do you want to do, Bill? And if they do have a vaccine, where's the money go for making the vaccine? Who's getting paid? How many dollars is it? Where's that money going? Is it a business now? So if you have a vaccine, that vaccine turns out that we got to vaccinate the whole population. Okay. So you're going to vaccinate 8 billion people? And then where's that money? Who gets the money from the manufacturer

of the vaccine? Are you going to do it completely egalitarian? Is it free? Is it free? New coronavirus vaccine czar says finding one by January is a credible goal. Okay.

Okay. Pharmaceutical executive. He sounds like a character in a movie. Monsef Slaoui, former pharmaceutical executive at the White House, chose to lead a crash development program, acknowledged that the 12- to 18-month timeline cited by Dr. Anthony Fauci was already very aggressive. But one by January is possible.

A credible goal. So maybe it is. But here's the thing. Until they have one, you can't say we've got to vaccinate everybody. We've got to say, let's look at all the possibilities. What's the matter? You had a crowd waving their hands there. January 2021 is what you're saying.

But I was like, that's the next January. Oh yeah. I just like jumped ahead. I was like oh shit that's 16 months old. Well that's what some people are saying that things are going to be

I'm just so happy I got pot. You have pot? I have pot. I'm so happy. I'm Don't you miss it? Yeah I do.

When people smoke it around you do you get uncomfortable? No feel free to smoke. But do you get uncomfortable? No. Not at all? Uh-uh. People, I mean, being around comedians and...

But you worked at a weed farm while you were sober. I know. That didn't freak you out at all? No. Uh-uh. No? Nothing? No.

I'll make you this promise, Joe. If I ever smoke weed, it will be with you for the the first time I don't want to be the person who fucks up your life I have friends that used to be all sober like full sober and now they smoke pot yeah only only pot I did that when I didn't drink when I was trying not to drink I smoked weed and um I definitely just made me want to drink that's a problem I get it but yeah of course I miss it

because it puts like I said it's like that fuzzy distance it puts that nice warm fuzzy distance between me and kind of the harsh reality of the world and now I'm very just present with it. But I've just been tripping out on Sam Harris's freaking meditation app, which is like a drug.

Because his is so crazy. I've done a lot of meditation in my life. A lot. I'm a yogi. I've probably done many, many years. But his is so science-based. And then it's like focus on your consciousness. And then it's like, focus on your consciousness. And now suddenly you have to focus

on the thought, and it's like, what happens to the thought when you focus on it? And it fucking disappears. Jimmy, want some of that? We share joints. Oh my God. Arrest these men! He's been tested. Bring them in and arrest them!

Multiple times! Sam has had quite a bit of experience with not just meditation but all sorts of altered states of consciousness and those silent retreats he goes to those silent retreats with it yeah no one says anything yeah yeah that's hard yeah so yeah when i was in sri lanka I was the last time I used LSD and I was determined to use it intentionally and because I couldn't hold joy. I come from a pretty chaotic upbringing. And every time I would be in a place where I was like experiencing joy and having fun, I would panic. I couldn't experience it. And I'm like, I'm going to take this acid and rewire my brain. And I'm going to be able to just sit and enjoy myself and not feel like the rug is going to get pulled out from underneath me. And it worked.

You got lucky. I got real lucky because I've had bad – my worst trip ever, I was kicking heroin. And I decided to do mushrooms because it was the only drug I had left. And it was, it was a nightmare. Hunter S. Thompson apparently stole some sign from the Farrelly Brothers Theater. Do you know the Farrelly Brothers Theater? No. And Farrelly Brothers?

What is it? The ones in San Francisco, they're the ones who produced Behind the Green Door with Marilyn Chambers. And there was a theater that they had in San Francisco that was like, they would do like sex acts. And he stole the sign from the theater and gave it to this couple. I think the Jackalope had it on his Instagram and gave the sign to the couple for when they got married as a wedding gift along with a bunch of acid. Oh, God. And the wife did the acid and lost her mind.

Oh, no. And got checked into a mental institution. Oh, no. This is a horrible story. And stayed there. Stayed there forever. This is so sad. Yeah.

Yeah. Although it would be cool if you're like, yeah, I had a wife. There it is. There it is. The Jackalope. Jacka underscore lope is a guy I've chatted with multiple times online he's a Hunter S. Thompson nut

so it's this is the O'Farrell theater that's what it is okay I'm thinking the Farrelly brothers the guys who make the funny movies yeah Hunter stole this sign from the O'Farrell theater in San Francisco signed it and gave it to a friend

along with 20 hits of acid as a wedding gift the bride took the acid was committed to a mental institution, and never came back. True story. On the one hand, that's tragic. It is. On the other hand, how dope would it be to be like, yeah, my bride, Hunter S. Thompson gave us acid and my bride went insane.

Depends if you love your bride. The sign says, warning if observing any type of sexual activity offends you, please do not enter. This is a private theater club, and we wish to preserve the privacy of members and avoid offense to any person. Admission is limited to adults who will not be offended should they observe any type of sexual activity. That's a pretty freaky sign. And he signed it. So he signed it at the bottom. Wow.

Well, at least he saw the sign even though he doesn't have his wife do you know whoa yeah i mean he obviously kept it i think yeah someone got it someone sold it sold it to someone yeah there's a lot of stories of that people doing acid just losing it switch switch flips and that's it. I was afraid when I was a Bernie man. I'm like, I went sober. Did you really? I did. And I was, I don't know why anyone needs drugs there.

I can see why they'd want to take them. But I would be the girl that lost my mind on the playa. And left it there. And never, I wouldn't come back. My brain would be, I can see how you could break your brain. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, I've definitely had those weird experiences where you've, have you had this where you kind of float out of your body and you're like,

maybe I won't go back. That sounds like people at Burning Man have that every day. That's a typical Burning Man. No. Why? It's dirty. It's not dirty. Oh, everybody's got a mask on because it's dusty.

They were the original social distancing. No, they were well prepared for this. I was saying, you know who's having the last laugh right now is the Burners. Because you have like all the masks. Right, right, right. And they're going to go back and no one's going to stop them. No, they canceled it. I think they can't.

Didn't they cancel it? No. No. Don't let them. You guys Man canceled? I think they can't. Didn't they cancel it? No! Don't let them. You guys are all gonna... They're like, damn the man! And they're like, oh, well, you can't come. They're like, okay. This is postponed. To when? That's hilarious. The Burners are like,

damn the man! And the man is like, you can't have Burning Man. And they're like, okay. When is Burning Man supposed to be? It's usually at the end of August. Yeah, the last weekend of August. Wow, these pussies are already backing off? Come on, kids.

Come on, Burners. What if they come up with really effective tests? They're not even kids. The Burners are old. The people I went with, they'd been going forever that's even weirder 55 year old burners like hey man we're out here doing it i think everyone needs to go once it is like nothing i've ever and of course the minute i get there someone opens a

suitcase full of drugs i'm like god damn it like no. Like, no, I can't. I was so close. Because it was during my experimental year of sobriety. And I was determined to make it. I just gotta prove to myself that I'm not an alcoholic and an addict. So you just wanted one full year under your belt? Yeah, which I did. And then you just kept going.

Well, no. Then I traveled around the world and I was like, fuck this. So that was the Australia days. Yeah. I got drunk right before I left for Australia because I'm like the world and I was like, fuck this. Oh, so that was the Australia days. Yeah. I got drunk right before I left for Australia because I'm like, why would I go to Australia and not drink? Well, that's good because that shows that you could both quit and then get back on and then quit again. Yeah, but the second time I quit, I was like, I want to kill myself. Oh, that's not good.

I don't know that I have another time in me maybe but well don't you think that now things are different because now you've developed like this audience and you have a successful podcast and people enjoy your tweets like you have a lot of people love you fucking gavin mcganis if i was tweeting while i was drinking i'd be banned from everything there's no way i'd be i'd be somebody, like one of the band. He's the first one that comes to mind. Yeah. Alex Jones.

Alex Jones, I would be, if I was drinking and tweeting, no way. I'd be canceled. When do those people get to come back? Like, what are we doing? Like, do you put people in jail for life? I don't know. That's a weird... But hold on a second.

These aren't crimes, right? No. So nothing either one of these guys has done is a crime. And, you know, maybe... I mean, wait. But Alex did have some kind of legal problems. Legal problems. Yeah.

Civil suit versus the families of... So there was some kind of crime there. Well, there's some kind of... There's something for a lawsuit, there's there's press there's something for a lawsuit right there's grounds for a lawsuit and he's been battling this lawsuit for quite a long time so let's assume that gets settled when when if ever do you let people like try again like but here's the thing it's's like it's not – if a company owns something – there's two arguments. And like there's the David Pakman audience, which is – argument rather.

David's argument is that – I hope I'm not misquoting him. He'll be on soon. Is that the company should have the ability to set their own guidelines and remove people from the platform if they say things that they feel are objectionable or things that don't align with the way the company views things. The problem with that is if it gets so big that the company's got trillions of dollars and it's seen by billions of people every day, and then who gets to make the decision that what they're saying is objectionable? Right, I know.

And is this an ideologically based decision? Or is this like, okay, don't show murder. Okay, good. Good call. Let's not show murder. You know, don't say whatever about the government. Well, that's when it gets weird. Don't say this about the pandemic. Because video is getting removed left and right. I know, that's when it gets weird. Don't say this about the pandemic, because videos

are getting removed left and right. I know, that's weird. I did a joke about this on Dumpster Fire on my show on YouTube, and I was like, does YouTube know what their content is? It's like half of it is people putting yonis up their vaginas, or like the little jade eggs up their yonis.

There's a lot of those videos? There's a lot of wacky science being presented on youtube there's definitely a lot of that but they're trying i think their idea is they're trying to stop disinformation and they're trying to put the kibosh on conspiracy theories but some of the things these people are saying is correct well and like schermer would argue that the only, you know, more speech is the only way to correct incorrect speech. Yes, that's what everybody would say

that's thinking about it logically because the problem with silencing these people, particularly like the 5G folks, right? This is a big one. 5G. Every time you try to put a 5G conspiracy video up, they take it down. Do you know that?

I mean, I've heard a lot about the 5G. But here's the thing. They'll leave up the flat earth ones because they're like, this is so fucking stupid. Go ahead. Stay up. But 5G is like a little. 5G is like, God damn it. People really believe in this.

We got to step in. You got to step in to stop morons from believing something that makes no sense. Lil Duvall had one Instagram thing on his page that cured it all up. And he goes, all you 5G people, it was basically that 5G is only in five countries. Coronavirus is in over 100 countries. Obviously, it's not 5G that's causing this shit. I know. I'm with you because I'm pretty much a free speech absolutist, I think.

And then even when I was thinking, I think. And then, you know, even when I was thinking, I was reading Sam's book and he mentioned something, it has nothing to do with free speech and I don't really know where he stands on all this. But I was just thinking when you're talking about how he was mentioning just how that ideology led to someone flying a plane into the trade centers. You know, so bad ideology is something we have to eradicate with more speech, obviously, but it's also... Potentially dangerous. These companies don't want to be responsible for someone doing something. This is where I get confused because I'm all about free markets too.

And if it's my company, like, fuck you. If you say something, get out of my house. But they don't apply their terms evenly. So if you have terms of service and you're like, you can't say this and people don't say this, but they will say what you're saying is inciting violence to one person and then they'll say to another person, oh, you said punch a Nazi in the face. Here's a blue check. Exactly. And so there is an unfair application of the terms of service. And

I think that's where most people get upset. And like you're saying, some of that, you know, I don't I don't really know anything about Milo, but I do know that he's been pretty much like depersoned. I don't even know if the guy can get like a bank. You know, I think once they have trouble getting like bank accounts and stuff or they can't get maybe it's not bank accounts, but like Venmo, you know, they get banned off of the PayPal. So how are you? I guess it's just the early warning signs of people interfering with being able to make a living.

But how are they supposed to make – What's tech deciding that they don't want you on their platform? And if they're in a position like Venmo or PayPal and that's what you're using for donation, they can say your ideology doesn't match up with the values of our company. We're going to kick you off. But you've got to show what that ideology is. Like what specifically is it? Like have a conversation about it. Like what are off. But you've got to show what that ideology is. What specifically is it? Have a conversation about it. What are you talking about?

It depends on what you're saying. Because if it's someone just saying something that's opposed to your views politically, you've got to let people talk this shit through. I mean, there's racist stuff on YouTube. You can find things that are sexist on YouTube. You could find things that are sexist on YouTube. You can find things that are homophobic on YouTube. You can find a lot of stuff. We can't decide that the disagreeable boundary is left and right.

You can't do that because there's crazy religious stuff that you keep on YouTube. Yeah. There is. I mean, you want to talk about conspiracy theories. I watch The Beheading. Yeah. You know, I've seen. Well, they take those down.

They take them down, but they still, I've seen them on YouTube. But there's plenty of religious ones. The point is, there's plenty of people saying absolutely outrageous shit that can't be real. And you don't do anything about that. So when you're talking about conspiracy theories and you're talking about, you know, ideological rifts between people, they're not even with it. Something can even distribute. But how do you think they should address that?

You know, when do you think these people get to talk again or whatever, which is an insane thing that we're even saying. The fact that we're even saying, like, when do we let these people talk again is fucking insane. This is what I think. I think that at a certain point in time, we have to look at whether it's the ability to tweet something or post a video or, you know, make, you know, an Instagram post. You have to think that this is this is a way to express yourself that we should all enjoy along with the same way we enjoy the idea of free speech, free speech and the ability to assemble, like the ability to assemble and talk about things. Like this is very similar to what these tweets are.

But they're private companies. But one of two things has to happen, I think. Either they have to change their perspective and they have to allow opposing ideas on their platforms. Even as heinous as they might be. Or we have to find a better alternative. And we have to find

a company that recognizes the flaws in the current model or the old model. And they say, look, we can't do this. You're making the divide stronger. When people find out that, you know, like the Veritas stuff, you know, that guy, Project Veritas, James O'Keefe, when he was exposing that these Twitter executives were saying how they were talking about the strategies they use to silence MAGA users, to silence Trump supporters. And you just find certain algorithms and things they say, and then you make it so it's difficult to find their page.

Like, that's creepy shit. Right. Like, you've got to let people choose. Yeah. You've got to let people choose what they like and what they don't like, because there's a line, and you can keep moving that line, right? You can say, we don't want anyone who says anything bad of uh you know about x y or z and who gets to be the arbiter of that decision and then it can get to a point where what happened

to zoobie where he got banned off of twitter for saying okay dude for someone right right someone said i i bet i can have sex with more women than you can and he goes okay dude and they're like violation you're done turns out it must have been a trans person he still doesn't even know uh-huh and then they reviewed it and still kept it upon review but he's still on twitter they suspended him right okay put him in twitter jail right they're basically letting you know hey you better censor yourself right right better better fucking get on the idea that you can't say okay dude to somebody. Yeah. Because I use dude with my girlfriends all the time.

Yeah, yeah, I use it all the time. If I'm talking to a female friend, I'll be like, dude. It's a normal thing that men and women say to each other. Even if they're just friends, it has nothing to do with someone who's trying to insult somebody. Right, right. Or pretend that you're a guy or misgender you. That's not what it is. What bothers me is that he said that.

And it might have been like, okay, dude, but we're ascribing intent. So they're saying you meant this in one way, even if he might have been like, whatever. But here's the thing. Why is it okay if that person calls you a cunt or a fucking idiot or a moron, but it's not okay if you call them a dude? Yeah. Is that the worst insult? I missed that whole thing.

I was offline. Dead naming. Do you know dead naming? That's a bannable offense on Twitter. Okay. So if you used to be a girl and then you decided to transition to be a guy and I insist on calling you Bridget on Twitter, I'm banned for life. Oh. Dead naming. Okay. Is that in the terms of service? guy and i insist on calling you bridget on twitter i'm banned for life oh dead okay okay

is that in the terms of service it's a new thing oh okay it's a thing that they've adopted over the last couple of years so this is where his okay dude falls in line somehow another misgendering misgendering is another reason you can get banned for life okay i mean i'm all for whatever respecting what people want to be called, but then it moves into like when you are enforcing it. Now it's, it said line kind of Jordan Peterson drew in some respects where it's like, I'll be polite. I will polite. I'm a, I'm not a monster. I will respect whatever people want me to call them. If you said, Bridget, I want you to call me Josephina. I to call me Josephina,

I would call you Josephina because I'm not an asshole. Yeah, you can change your name. But if suddenly Twitter was like, you called him Joe, I'm going to ban you, that gets into another territory. Here's a good example, too. If you decide that you want to be called Debbie, and I go, okay, when I speak to you, the noise that comes out of my mouth will be Debbie.

If you don't call me Debbie, you're going to kick the fuck off Twitter. But if you then go, and my pronouns are Zier and Zar, I'd be like, nope, nope, nope. I'm not playing Dungeons and Dragons with you. I'm not. You're either a he or a she,

or you can even be a they. That's who you prefer. You can't make up one. I'm not you you're either a he or a she or you can even be a they that's who you prefer you can't make up one I I'm again like they doesn't even work it's funny because the younger generation's much more relaxed about this they're like whatever I'll call them whatever they want like the kids these days are like I don't care I don't they just in the same way that I grew up and my my older folks might have been like, ah, gay marriage. And they'd be all outraged. And we were all like, ah, whatever. Here's a controversial question. There's way more kids that are trans today.

Yeah. Way more. Oh, God. Right? Isn't there? It's a trap. Is this because they feel comfortable enough to be trans and they've always been trans? Or is it possible that it's a cultural thing?

And then it seems like it's more acceptable to be trans, so they just take a chance, or they... Maybe it's just the experimental cool thing to do. Well, there's a lot of people that experiment with all sorts of things, and this is not denying trans people in any way. No, no, no, no, no, no. But we've got to be really clear, because I don't want anybody to be upset. But there are impressionable people that...

Look, somebody talked those fucking Heaven's Gate guys into cutting their balls off and waiting for the comment that was going to take them away to some other planet. You could talk someone into being gay. Tiger King did it. Joe Exotic talked those guys into being gay. I know, and then he, that story with Travis is really sad. It is sad.

But this is what I'm saying. It was like, could someone talk you into being trans? Or is that the one thing you can't talk a person into being? Because you could talk a person into being a whole lot of things. Well, I wonder, too, if it's culturally just one of these things that they're trying on, like a loose garment. Because they've done a lot of studies. And you're not talking about everybody. No, no, no, no, no.

Small percentage. But I'm just saying that maybe they've done a lot of studies that many times when kids experience gender dysphoria when they're younger, a lot of the time they'll grow out of it. A lot of time they become gay men. Or that. I don't know about. There's been studies on this. Okay. Allegedly.

Allegedly. I'd ask Jamie. We're morons. I wouldn't know about. There's been studies on this. Okay. Allegedly. Allegedly. I'd ask Jamie. We're morons. I wouldn't know how to phrase that. And so. Plus you get put on a list. I just, what worries me is co-signing on that and giving young kids who might grow out of something like hormones and stuff like that.

That's where I feel like, okay, maybe it's in the culture. It's like the kind of cool thing. Maybe you're, maybe it's, there's more because it's more acceptable or maybe it's just something that you're kind of like, I, there was a part of my life where I was like, am I a lesbian? Maybe I am. I don't know. I'm not. But maybe it might be something that's a curiosity when you're younger and it might be something that is like the cool thing. So, yeah, I think that we have to accept that that's not always going to be the case for everyone. For some people, that will absolutely be the truth. But with children, here's what I'm hesitant about.

What freaks me out is not people that are like you or me that are like, ooh, is this a good thing to do? It's people that know it's the best thing for the child. That's what freaks me out. What freaks me out is people that are pro-transitioning at a really young age 100% of the time, and they think it's amazing. Do you know who I'm talking about? Yeah. They get this thing where they're like—

I mean, there are doctors co-signing on this shit. He's three and he's trans. He's a boy. Okay. Are you sure? I mean, I'll get in trouble. I'll probably get in trouble for saying it, but I just don't— it but I just don't I and maybe when you're a young I don't know when you're an adolescent up to like 13 14 I would maybe even argue I don't know I don't know how you can co-sign on that and

be like yes this child who should be listening you know this child knows what's best for them I wanted to do a lot of fucking things when I was a kid that that I couldn't do you know, if I had wanted to become, if I was a talented musician and wanted to go join a band and I was some kind of phenom at 14, my parents would have been like, oh, too bad. You have to wait. They would have made me, they would have said, you're too young to go do that. Yeah, you're not going to London with these fucking perverts, Bridget. And I'm not calling I know this is all gonna get

canceled after this. No, you're not. It's an ideological battleground. Here's the thing. It's like the people that say that it's not something that you should be hesitant about. It's not something that should concern you. Those are the people that have a problem with it because what is your justification? Like you

must have some massive generalization or there must be a switch that you know of that i don't that someone is definitely trans or not trans when they're young and they're confused yeah because it's the one thing that they know about if you asked a three-year-old what are you going to be forever and you can't change it what's going to be your your occupation some might say turtles yeah you know i don't know that you can. Well, someone had a great line. I forget who it was. Some comic had it on Twitter. It said, you don't let a six-year-old pick out their outfit.

Why would you let them pick out their gender? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that's another. And again, I'm not a parent. So you are. You have a little bit more ground to stand on. And I will get into this argument with people and immediately it's like well you're not a parent so kids very wildly that's why the idea of being blanket for kids transitioning with hormone blockers and all this crazy shit like i had a conversation with adam

conover about it and it was like a big viral moment for this discussion and people called me a transphobe like nothing could be further from the case i'm not at anything phobe i love everybody equally if you're if you've got your shit together i want you to have your shit together i really do even if you don't have your shit together yeah but i mean if you're a person who can talk and i'm not i'm not prejudging anybody on anything yeah but when you start talking about children and their future, and I know that it's synced up to a virtue. It's synced up to some sort of an ideological virtue signaling thing that you can do to say that you're pro-trans. Well, that's what worries me.

You're pro-children transitioning. And then when I ask you why you're so certain and you don't have good answers, I'm like, okay, this is a cult thing. You're in that cult and you know there's things that you have to say in order to be accepted by that cult. Yeah, that's what worries me is that it's more like take away from the children. I allow for kids to explore and whatever. I think it's great that society is more open because phobias of any, like transphobia homophobia these are not helpful for our our society in general i i do worry that parents eager to be progressive you know warriors for their team and in these progressive enclaves where they're trying to kind of outwoke each other will use their children as means to, they're like little advertisements.

And it sounds horrible, but it's true. What you just said sounds horrible, but it's true. You see it on a very small scale. I used to work at a, I taught theater to kids at a very, like in Temescal at a camp. They used to be there. And this one kid came in and this kid must have been five or six years old. And he had a t-shirt on that said, I'd never live east of the 405.

And I was like, wow, you are using your child as an advertisement for your wealth. Like it was just a little walking billboard that said my parents are rich, basically. And you see this all the time with, you know, I was watching. That doesn't necessarily mean rich. It could be Venice.

No, I know. Huntington Beach? No, east of the 405. I would never live east of the 405. Yeah. Huntington Beach is west of the 405. That's the beach. Yeah, it's west.

I would never live east of the 405. It's like I wouldn't live in Inland Empire. I wouldn't live in the valley. I wouldn't live in Enc I would never live east of the 405. It's like I wouldn't live in Inland Empire. I wouldn't live in the Valley. I wouldn't live in Encino. That's east of the 405. No, actually, that's west. Encino's west. No, the kid was saying I would never live east of the 405, which Huntington Beach and all

that is west of the 405. Right. All the beach communities are west. Right, but that's not a rich community. Huntington Beach is not rich. They're pretty. I mean- Venice is not rich.

Anyone living on the beach in LA, Venice is pretty rich. Long Beach is rich? Venice is like tech rich now. That's Beach is not rich. They're pretty. I mean, anyone living on the beach in LA, Venice is pretty rich. Long Beach is rich? Venice is like tech rich now. That's where Snoop comes from. Long Beach is changing. It's not cheap. It's $800,000 to get a little house in Long Beach. But isn't it also like people

on the west side are like extremely liberal? Yeah, in general. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But but anyway my point is that people often use their kids as billboards for whatever signaling i was watching some it was a bunch of people protesting the lockdown and this little kid was chanting something at the dude about fake news and i was like this this is what we do to kids with you know sports it's easy to indoctrinate children very easy did you see that one guy that was walking around i think sam tripley had it up This is what we do to kids with sports. It's easy to indoctrinate children. Very easy.

Did you see that one guy that was walking around? I think Sam Tripoli had it up on his Instagram page. The guy was walking around at the protest in Newport. Newport might have been Huntington Beach. And this guy's walking around with a megaphone. Everybody's saying, we open back up California. Bill Gates is the devil. The Bill Gates stuff is so funny to me.

It's so weird. It's just funny. He became a villain out of nowhere. What's that quote? You either die a hero, you live long enough to become a villain. He's lived long enough to become a villain. Right. The Gates Foundation literally gives millions of dollars away to charity.

When I was in Rome and all over the world, when you go to any of these places, what he's done in Africa. Did you see the whole documentary? He built freaking toilets for all of Africa. He literally figured out how to fucking help them with one of the biggest problems in Africa. And everyone's like fuck bill gates in rome everything's crumbling in greece because they don't there's they don't have the money to maintain all their antiquities and so the gates foundation is everywhere keeping all of the our history basically from like crumbling but he fucked up instead of talking about vaccines and people like you want to get rich off the backs of all these people you're going to inject your microchips into.

I did a radio hit. And it was like a right-wing guy. And I didn't really know much. But he was asking me out of the blue. He's like, and then did you see Melinda Gates today? I was like, oh, shit. When I do these hits, I'm like, oh, no. Oh, my God. of the blue he's like and then did you see melinda gates today i was like oh shit when you do when i do these hits i'm like oh no oh my god i'm like i'm not gonna get into this whole anti-gates thing

but he's done so much good yeah but to be fair she was out there saying that talking about when we should open up and vaccines and i'm like yeah maybe just i keep saying this if i was rich you would never fucking hear from me right now. I would be on a beach. There's so much. It's a class war. Listen to me. It's a class war.

If you had money, you would still be spouting out, stop your bullshit. If somebody gave you $100 million, you would wait about a month and you'd go right back on Twitter. Fuck yeah, you know I'm right. You know I'm right. You love doing it. It's fun for you. And you're great at it. No know I'm right. You love doing it. It's fun for you. And you're great at it. No, you're right.

You're one of the best tweeters alive. No, you're probably right. I'm right about that. You're one of the best tweeters alive. This thing that they're doing where they're telling people they're going to have to get vaccinated, this is what is a part of the problem. Because there's a lot of people that have kicked this disease. We've got to figure out why they kicked it.

Whether it's nutrition, whether it's genetics. We've got to figure that out. And this thing that you're saying, everybody's got to get vaccinated. No, they don't. No, they don't. It's weird. You don't even know. First of all, you don't even know if they're going to be able to nail this vaccine.

I hope they do. I hope they do. Yeah, it's weird to see the convergence of the anti-vaxxers and all of this talk because I wrote a piece about, it was like a satirical piece. I was saying why stop getting mad at anti-vaxxers for bringing disease into the herd. And it was all about it because it was during like the measles outbreaks, which we've almost eradicated and now it's making a comeback. And there's so much overlap in those communities now with this. But you can't really conflate the two because we know how to get rid of the measles. We know we can get rid of the measles.

We have something that works. Right, but it's a liberty thing. See, the problem is whenever you start telling people what they have to do, even if it's good for them, they get mad. Well, and even with the vaccine thing, I don't like to be so black or white about even that because there is a conversation to be had there. Is it good to have vaccines that protect the herd immunity from diseases we've pretty much eradicated? Yes, because you're putting a lot of other people at risk and pregnant moms when they go to the waiting room. And there's so many side effects if somebody has measles.

Now, should they have 67 vaccines in order to attend school, including HPV? Like, why? That's not herd immunity. Right. Why do they need to get the California? Why do they need that when they're babies? Have you seen the list? It's a crazy list.

Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. So that's where I'm like, eh. Well, the problem with anti-vaxxers is they do cause people to get cavalier about this shit, and then measles makes a comeback. That's real. Polio makes a comeback. The only reason we're having this conversation is because we got rid of that shit.

Yeah, exactly. It's just hubris. But when someone says we have to get a vaccine and everyone's going to have to take the vaccine, people automatically get cautious. And then when that person's a billionaire that might be connected to the Illuminati, you're like, hey, this fucking guy's going to make money off this vaccine.

Everyone's brains are broken. I think Trump broke everyone's brains. Everyone's so worried because everything becomes this partisan thing and then it's like yeah i'll get measles to own the libs you know there's so much like i'm gonna do this thing that like cut off my nose to spite my face or whatever that yeah i'll be a martyr yeah it's a lot it's a lot it's a lot so but wait i still want to know when do you think the people should be

able to like talk again the person yeah that's a good that's a good question um well alex jones at least has infowars.com he could do his own thing and people go to that and gavin's got a show still does he yeah is he still on youtube or did they kick him off youtube i don't know if he's still on youtube because they they kicked him off a lot of things a little while ago. And it didn't seem like there was a clear reason. It's like they just decided they were going to get rid of him. Interesting. You know what I'm saying?

Like he had been on. He had some scandals, but he had stayed on YouTube. Right. And basically followed the rules. Right. So what happened? Oh, is he still on there? He's definitely still on. Oh, okay. Okay, so he's the rules. Right. So what happened? Oh, is he still on there? He's definitely still on.

Oh, okay. Okay, so he's still on. Okay. So that's interesting too, right? Because I think he just- They have their own thing. And if you go on Telegraph, they're all there. They're all hanging out.

Telegraph. It's like the, where, it's like a micro-blogging service. And I think Milo's there and Gavin's there and it's a little bit like Twitter but it's kind of like for the band and for people who

for the miscad yeah I saw he was he was on one of those things Gab or something like that talking about Milo was complaining about the actual numbers

he reaches now how unsustainable it is obviously there's a lot of people that like him and there's look he's a funny guy he says funny shit he really does and i don't i don't think he's been accurately portrayed i don't i mean i think he definitely said some stupid shit but that's part of the fun of what he was doing he's a provocateur you know and he was definitely doing some stuff that there's like there's a question of whether or not there's multiple accounts that they were using that he was using

to yeah you know anonymous accounts that's that was an accusation but twitter didn't want to substantiate that when i talked to them about it because i think their word about the legal ramifications we address that yeah it's It's problematic because you end up, you know, as someone who's kind of all for free speech, I often get told that I'm bad because I have to defend people whose language I don't agree with. That is what free speech is. It's not defending everyone who says things that I love. It doesn't make any sense because that means you're right all the time. Like if you're only defending the things that you believe in, you write all the time about everything.

But I have to defend the people who say things that are even atrocious and that I would never get on board with because that's what free speech is. Otherwise, and like you said, it is that slippery slope of who gets to be the arbiter of what is said right and what are your what are your guidelines and when i'm saying this about letting people do it like or arguing against ideas that you don't agree with like you should be able to or not to you should be able to express yourself and respond to the criticisms that you receive or choose not to. But the idea that only my ideas should get broadcast because your ideas are contrary to my ideas. I'm going to cut off the pipeline for you to express those and work those out.

And look, there's a lot of people that had some terrible ideas early in their life and then they changed. Yeah, yeah. There's that guy, what's his name, Christian Picciolini, who was in the KKK, or was in some sort of white supremacist organization when he was young, and now he talks about the dangers of these organizations. It's like me being AOC when I was young.

Exactly. Well, people change. No, you do. And you have to be able to, if there's no path to redemption, what is the point? Right, so what is the path to redemption? You is the point? Right. So what is the path to redemption? You leave people with nothing.

And hopelessness is the worst. So if you're taking everything away from somebody and then you're saying you're in the bad place now forever, what is their incentive to even open their mind and have a different, why not just double down? Let's give a recent example. Here's a recent example, a good one. London Real. London Real had an interview with David Icke.

I don't know who any of these people are. Okay, London Real is a popular YouTube show. Okay. And they had an interview with David Icke. David Icke is a conspiracy theorist who thinks that the elites turn into lizards. He says he's seen their eyes shift. Okay.

This is, he talked about it on this podcast. Seen their eyes shift. Yes says he's seen their eyes shift. Okay. This is, he talked about it on this podcast. Seen their eyes shift. Yes, I've seen their eyes shift. Okay, right there you should be like, okay, this is fun. This is fun time. This guy thinks that the fucking the queen's a lizard lady. Right. But you want to look out for people that are so fucking dumb that they're like, oh, did

you hear about the lizard people? Yeah, they're real, man. But there's a lot of those people. Hey, hey, hey. So what? Right. So what? I agree.

This is evolution here. We're stopping the flow of evolution. Because if, look, this is how I feel about televangelists, right? If you're so dumb, you want to give Joel Osteen all your money even though you're poor because you think that somehow or another this is going to save you and God's grace is going to be upon you because you tithe all your money to Joel Osteen all your money even though you're poor because you think that somehow or another this is going to save you and God's grace is going to be upon you because you tithe all your money to Joel Osteen and he drives around to Bentley and you're happy for him?

Yeah. Okay, that's legal. Yeah. And it's dumb as fuck, but it doesn't work on you. It works on only the dumbest of dumb people. And so they're like, oh, I guess it's okay. This is the same thing. Yeah.

This is the same thing. If you're so fucking dumb, you really believe that David Icke's seeing people's eyeballs shift over and that there's lizards that are secretly transforming into politicians and then going back to lizards when no one's looking. Come on.

Yeah. Come on. So if you take that guy off, you just make him bigger. Yeah. So there's a giant story that this David Ike podcast was removed from youtube and it keeps getting removed people keep uploading it it's like that plandemic

documentary that everybody keeps sending me oh yeah yeah it gets removed and then people upload it everywhere we're gonna upload it everywhere they're trying to hide the truth just leave it alone it makes it seem real it makes it seem way more real yeah it makes it seem real nobody would give a fuck about that david ike interview i mean it would because it's on london real and it's a popular program so some people would have watched it but nobody would have really thought that the fucking lizard people are there nobody would and the people that do think that they're gonna think anything you could talk them into cutting their balls off and riding the fucking comet and joining your hellbob people and joining my cult but But the thing is, you've got to let that exist.

You've got to let these... But they will with some shit. They will with the Flat Earth people. Yeah, it's weird. The Flat Earth shit is still up. Oh, I know. I know. But they get to the 5G and they're like, nope, too much.

Too real. So David Icke was talking about 5G. From what I said, I don't even... What I read, rather, I don't even... Because I didn't watch the whole thing. But I don't even think he was saying that 5G. From what I said, I don't even, what I read rather, I don't even, because I didn't watch the whole thing, but I don't even think he was saying that 5G causes it. But he was doing some,

he was doing some wacky, very articulate conspiracy shit. Yeah. We live in just weird, weird, it's only getting weirder. But here's what's interesting. Okay.

This is what we need to accept about people like David Icke and a lot of these people. There is clearly a lot of these people. There is clearly a lot of entertainment value in someone saying preposterous shit that any intelligent person knows is not true.

There's some weird entertainment value in someone that really does believe that aliens live amongst us and that they're shapeshifters and that if you look back, all of our leaders have all been related together in their

one gene pool that the ancient Sumerians brought together. They came here from planet Nibiru. There's something really entertaining about that. Scientology. Not just Scientology. There's a lot of those. A lot of it right so people watch

my YouTube show right that's funny no I know but I mean you know what I'm saying like there's this is an

it's kind of an art form this is what I'm thinking it's performance art it is a kind of performance art along with like a little bit of horse shit and some people who is that crazy

stand-up guy um andy kaufman yes it's like everyone's become andy kaufman right alex jones is funny than andy kaufman's ever been alex jones is fucking hilarious often did you see the whole bill that he's bill hicks yeah conspiracy that's not real i went down that rabbit hole that's the silliest shit i know but there are videos. But he had one thing we're talking about, like if it's between his family starving or eating his neighbor. Oh, I know. He's like, I'll eat your ass. I thought.

And so it became this giant. Come on. Do you don't think there's entertainment value in him saying he's going to eat his neighbor? Stop my dumpster fire. Right. But there's something to that, like to stop that and ban that. Right. But there's something to that, like to to stop that and ban that you're you're not you're not stopping anyone from you're not stopping anybody from anything bad by not having Alex do this entertaining thing about eating his neighbor. You're not saving anybody. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Like you got it. You got it. Like, what are you doing? Like, what is he doing that's so awful? I don't know how to fix any of it. It's entertaining. Like, why is it only acceptable if you have some kind of entertainment? Because there's so many rap videos that you could watch that I enjoy, but they're talking about

shooting people and robbing people and it's everywhere on YouTube. It's so prevalent. Yeah. And somehow or another, that's okay. Like, it's fucking weird what's allowed and what's not allowed. Yeah.

I guess I underestimated the culture wars. I kind of stumbled half-ass into them. It's complicated. It's so complicated. And it's not just a, or, you know, it's not like one tribe or another has, I, I'm very skeptical of anyone who's all in on like 100%. This is the way. 100%. COVID's going to kill us all.

We should stay in. 100%. We should open everything fucking back up. Let it ride. There's somewhere in the middle. You know what's the Rosetta Stone of the culture war? No. Takeshi69.

What's that? That fucking rapper dude with the stupid tattoos all over his face and the rainbow hair who was a rat. He ratted out all these gang members. Oh, I miss that. And he was in the Witness Protection Program. And now he's at... Well, it wasn't in the Protection Program, but he...

Why is he the Roselle Stone? He got a much lighter sentence because he ratted on people. Because the rap culture has always been no rats. Snitches get stitches. That's always been the culture. He is now the most popular rapper on earth he has a video that he just released a few days ago that is what is it now 150 million views on the video wow what is it okay it's probably more than that i said 150 but that was probably yesterday. 159 right now. 159 million views.

And it's terrible. Why does that make him the Rose out of Stone, though? Because there's no logic. There's no logic to anything people are doing. If you're trying to look for logic in what's popular or human behavior or what people are really excited about, like what's scaring them, what's good and what's bad, this is the guy. That's Takeshi69. I thought you meant he was

like the key to translating it. This is the key to translating it. Oh, okay. It's all nonsense. He's nonsense. It's nonsense. The world is filled with nonsense and people are paying attention to this nonsense and frantic about this nonsense. It's even creepier with the sound off.

Oh, it's terrible. You should hear it with the sound on. I's even creepier with the sound off. Oh, it's terrible. You should hear it with the sound on. I've never heard it with the sound on. Well, it's standard rap, braggadocious type shit. It's nonsense. But people love it. Look, it's kind of entertaining. I mean, that's what I...

It's got a good beat to it. I'd listen to it. But does it have $150 million worth of beat? I don't think so. I mean, that's what everyone to it. But does it have 150 million worth of beat? I don't think so. I mean, that's what everyone calls it, clown world. Isn't that what everyone says? It's clown world? The world? Yeah, like we live in a clown world. We do kind of live in clown world. It's

idiocracy. It's something What happened? We had so much. We had it all. And we were just pissing it away. We'll bounce back. Do you think just pissing it away. We'll bounce back. Do you think? Yep. So you're ultimately, after our long-winded, slightly terrifying conversation about the culture,

ultimately, who do you think, do you think Biden's going to make it to the election? Well, it's going to be a joke if he does. The idea that people are all in on Biden. I don't think if they let the two of them talk in the same room and have some sort of a debate, I think Donald Trump's going to eviscerate him. I don't even think it's going to be close. He still has his wits. He's still sharp. He's still mean.

He's still well prepared with the digs and how he talks. He calls him Sleepy Joe. I know. Do you see how dismissive he was? He's a troll. But do you see how dismissive he was when he was talking about something that Biden said? The Vice President Joe Biden said he was, first of all, Biden didn't say that. He goes, a Democratic operative said that.

He goes, Biden probably doesn't even know this is happening. It's funny. He has these ads on Facebook, Trump, that are all like anti. They're like, oh, he's too old. I'm like, you guys are four years apart. Well, that's all he anti. They're like, oh, he's too old. I'm like, you guys are four years apart. Well, that's all he needs. The coach. Have you seen Trump's 404 pages on his website yet?

Oh, my God. There. I'll show you. This is fucking hilarious. This also made it to Dumpster Fire. He's trolling everyone. He trolls everyone. Like when you can't find something, it's like the error page.

I think that's. They have them stocked. I think this made it into one of our earliest episodes of Dumpster Fire. Because we have a whole segment on the show called Troll in Chief. And it's basically like every week, what the fuck is he doing? Who's he trolling now? Do you want to see the most adorable Trump thing? Yeah.

There's a lady who put together this. Hold on, sorry. It's okay. Let me say it again. Oh, my God. It appears you are as lost as me. That's his 404. It would choke Biden with his mouth open. It's not the only one. it again. Oh, my God. It appears you are as lost as me. That's his 404. It would choke Biden with his mouth open.

It's not the only one. He's got like a Hillary one. He has a, didn't he have a Warren one too? Aren't you looking for something that doesn't exist? Try this. I mean, how do you? Come on, that's hilarious. This guy understands the culture.

I want you to look up hashtag Toddler Trump on Instagram. Oh, I saw this. This lady made this face swap video that's worthy of Kyle Dunnigan. It's Trump's face on a baby and she starts talking to the baby.

Accusing the baby of doing things to the baby. No, no, no. Have you seen it? Right, but the lady, let's give the lady credit who made it. She's got a bunch of funny shit on her. Jimmy Kimmel credits Dr. Fakenstein. Oh, is it? Yeah.

Oh, okay, perfect. So, again. I don't think this lady attributed Dr. Fakenstein. Back to being the arbiter of what's online, with the deep fakes and shit, it's going to get so wild. Give me some volume on this. Go from the beginning. Jimmy Kimmel's talking.

This is the Jimmy Kimmel one? No, no, no. Don't do that one. Hashtag on Instagram go to toddler hashtag toddler Trump. You said it's adorable, but it's honestly also terrifying.

Deep fakes are terrifying. They are. Yeah, this one is particularly cute, though. Yeah. Here, I'll send you the video. No, no, no, no, no. I found it. Here it is.

No, no, no. There's a... Here it is. That's it. You did. You also said the virus could go away by April. No, no, no, sir. Here it is. That's it. No, I'm not going to go to the pool. Look at this.

It's so cute. I'm not going to go to the pool. Come on. How cute is that? No, I'm not going to go to the pool. That's the best thing. Come on. How cute is that? You said chloroquine would treat it. No. No. I'm going to get a test report. That's the best thing.

No. I'm going to get a test report. You said anyone who needs a test can get one. I'm going to get a test report. You praised China for being transparent. I'm going to get a test report. You got rid of the pandemic response team. No. I'm going of the pandemic response team.

You ignored every warning throughout January and February. Oh, come on. If you see it, it's this. I love it. First of all, that lady's abusing her baby. Because she's accusing the baby of something. That baby clearly doesn't know what the fuck she's saying. I feel like it was just a video of the baby that they overdubbed. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.

It was 100% what happened. You don't know shit. They're abusing that kid. I feel like you're the kind of person who would believe any conspiracy theory that you read. Imagine if your kid actually had Trump's little face.

No. What do we do? Imagine if your kid was born Trump's little face and you'd be like what do we do imagine if your kid was born and that was actually a real baby if it wasn't even a face swap their kid got a fucking shit roll of the dice kid's got a 70 year old man's face what the fuck do we do

and you're like in a liberal place your kid looks like Trump and you're taking him to the supermarket he was born this way we voted for Pence I mean This kid looks like Trump. Are you taking him to the supermarket? He was born this way. We voted for Pence. I mean. That's the internet at its best is when it's doing stuff like that. Do you think Pence can be president?

Like if Trump, what if he dies? What if Trump gets COVID and dies? That would be, that's not happening. What if Trump gets COVID and dies? That would be, that's not happening. What if Pence won? Do you think this country would handle President Pence? Yeah, I mean. Be super religious. Well, yeah, but it doesn't matter because now the culture wars, it's just red and blue.

Yeah, we are deep and we're deep. People are always talking about how the Civil War is coming. I'm like, that's ridiculous. I don't know how the Civil War is coming. I'm like, that's ridiculous. I don't know if the Civil War is coming, but something's happening. There's a violent split between two sides here. I think we're using it as it's sort of a focus of our frustration and our attention that's not necessarily rational. Well, everything's become political. Yeah. Everything.

rational well everything more than it is everything's become political yeah everything but it's the focus of our attention instead of like the the distraught feelings that we're having because our life's been turned upside down by a virus then it's become trump's fault trump's fault no it's first of all it's that lab in wuhan or the wet market that's that's what happened yeah okay that's that's whose fault it was was it their fault that they didn't stop sooner? Yeah, but a lot of people didn't know what the fuck was going on. Was there bad mistakes made? Yeah, but it's a lot of it's touch and go. Did China do a wrong thing?

Yeah, they fucked up hard and you can't listen to them and you can't trust them. Did the World Health Organization carry their water and have their back? Yes, they do. You can't trust them. Who can you trust? Who can you trust? Yeah. No one knew what the fuck this was.

That's the problem, though. We live in a world and society where people don't know who to trust. So it's easier to just get on board somewhere ideologically for your own brain. You know what we need? We need like a news Snopes, but a good one. Like something that breaks down the news and says, okay, is this true? Here's why it isn't. And here's what we know.

Here's what we don't know. And here's where it gets confusing. It's so much entertainment. I was watching that interaction that Trump had with the reporter the other day. Which one? The Chinese lady? Yeah. Excuse me.

Chinese American. The woman. Yeah. And the interaction, his interactions with the press are my least favorite. And I was saying this before we started. If this was like a movie I was watching, I'd be rooting for the meteor. There's no likable. You know, the press thinks they're David and Goliath, but it's really like Goliath and Goliath.

thinks they're David and Goliath, but it's really like Goliath and Goliath. And all the people just desperately looking for truth are the little Davids out there trying to make sense of it. But it's not, there's no, everybody's so narcissistic. There was that freaking thing last night on Anderson Cooper had, you know, they had Greta on. And then they talked to Greta. And then he manages to take precious time during the pandemic to talk about the fact that people on Twitter were giving him shit because they put Greta Thunberg on there as an expert. I'm like, how do you guys manage to always fucking make the news about you? There's so much

shit going on in the world and you're worried that people called you out because, yeah, nothing says this isn't an overblown hoax. Like there are people who think this is a hoax. And there are people who think that it's a doomsday call, the pandemic. And then the way that they're going to calm people down is by putting bread on. Well, did you see CNN had this thing where Rand Paul was talking to Dr. Fauci. CNN had this thing where Rand Paul was talking to Dr. Fauci. And then this is the title of the argument or the title of the article was something along the lines of Rand Paul says to Dr. Fauci, you're not the end all. Hear his response.

You know what it really said? What he really said, he went over this. First of all, Rand Paul is a real doctor he's a doctor yeah second of all he's had covid he survived he looks like it he needs some vitamin d he survived it and he also survived it with a fucked up lung that he got when his neighbor attacked him and broke his ribs right they had to remove a piece of his lung So this guy was in rough shape before he got COVID and then was describing to Dr. Fauci his reservations about the advice that Fauci has given. And then the direction that the current government is, the way they're handling this in terms of locking people down and making people stay at home. And he had some reservations about that.

It wasn't simply like he said some awful thing to Dr. Fauci, like you're not the end all. He said basically, with all due respect, as much as I appreciate you or as much as I respect you, I don't think you're the end all for this. And then Dr. Fauci's response was, I am not the end all for this. And what I am is a biological virus scientist or whatever the fuck he is. I explained what he did.

I mean, he handled it well too, but you look at the, the title of the video was so misleading. The title from the video could have been Rand Paul and Dr. Fauci in an exchange. But you can't trust anybody who doesn't give you that. Cause that's what the thing really was. So anybody who doesn't give you that because that's what the thing really was.

So anybody who doesn't give you that is fucking with you. They're pulling your strings. Nobody's. But again, when the news became a business, it became a problem. It was it was now it's incentivized. All there are all the it's perverse incentives. I know. But don't you think that there was a place where you knew that didn't take place, there would be value in that?

Like in this crazy battleground of ideas. I do, but there's no institutional support for it. I don't know about that. I think if someone did something like that didn't get passed? Because these fucking, the Patriot Act came up yesterday. Parts of the Patriot Act came up for renewal, and there was a, basically yesterday wasn't a bill passed that- There's some amendments that were getting- It was an amendment, and they were supposed to pass an amendment that was against the...

I think it's like internet searches without a warrant. Yeah, so now they can search because Bernie and a bunch of other people didn't show up to vote. Now they can search our searches without a warrant. Yeah, Matt Taibbi tweeted about that. Like all the people that are pro-Bernie. Like, look what he did. Yeah, I... Obviously, that's not good. I'm not happy with that. Like all the people that are pro-Bernie. Like look what he did. Yeah. I obviously that's not good.

But again you're not hearing that stuff gets lost. That's the shit that makes me want to like burn everything down because our freedoms those are the ones the freedoms that are actually getting passed through and I think only like 14 Democrats voted

against it. I don't... How is that not a huge part of the news today? Because people actually get fucking pissed off about stupid petty shit because I think they can get their minds around it. And when it comes down to like, oh, they can now search your internet searches without a warrant. Everyone's like, I can't deal with it. Yeah, but Bill Maher told Rose McGowan in the 90s that he has a huge cock.

Why aren't we marching in the streets? Why? I know there's so much data coming in. There's so many things to think of. Oh, I know why. Because we can't march in the streets. You can't even go outside. Because we're on lockdown.

Yeah, that's the thing. I'm wondering what's going to happen in California. I have a friend of mine that I respect very much, and he sent me these messages today. He goes, they're going to fucking riot. He goes, people are not going to tolerate California being locked down until August. There's people that are not going to just stand by

while their families go hungry, and there's no money coming in. These bureaucrats and politicians don't understand what they're saying, what they're asking. And he said they're going to riot. I just feel like they're not in touch with people, the politicians. I mean, they think that, you know, I hear online, they're like, oh, it's all these like rich people who are mad that and this doesn't affect them. Like, who do you think I go to the beach with?

It's not it's the people who are living inland. It's not like rich people have pools. They're not mixing with us plebes down at the beach. I think it's plebs. Plebs, I mean. It is plebs, but I always say plebes. Yeah, it's, they work with politicians. They're, you know, like when you're around comics and you think you can say things because

you're used to saying crazy shit around comics. Like you ever do that? Like the craziest. When you're around people and you just drop a word that you probably shouldn't say and people are like, oh, did she just say cunt? You called her a dumb cunt? And people just like really fall apart. Like, oh, I'm sorry. I say things that are purposely wrong for fun.

Like that's part of, okay, I won't do that around you. No, you can't. Not you. I'm saying, you know, when you're around people that aren't comics and you slip up. No, I do it all the time. Well, that's how politicians are. Yeah. They're around politicians all the time.

Yeah. So they're saying stupid shit that doesn't really resonate with people that are actually losing their livelihood. That was like that one chick who she's like responsible for the AB5 bill, and she said to like fuck Elon Musk on Twitter. Exactly. She's destroyed like livelihoods long before the pandemic came along. She was fucking people up.

How was she fucking people up? Because AB5 makes it impossible to be a freelance contractor, basically. You either have to, it was why freelance writers were trying to get her to make revisions and now she has two more bills that are revising like when your bill is so bad that you need other bills to try and fix it because she didn't think of all the consequences of this bill what is the bill ab5 it's a bill that makes it essentially, it was supposed to make it so these gig workers

had to become employees. And theoretically, it's, I mean, everyone says that it's because she's basically in the union's pocket. So you either need to join a union or become an employee. But most people in LA, myself included, are freelance. So it made it so you can't do more than 32 freelance pieces per month, for example. And so people in California were losing their writing contracts because companies in DC and places in New York were like, we don't want to deal with this because we basically have to make you an employee. Otherwise, we'll get a fine. So you have to either make some it.

It basically kills your ability to be a freelance worker. Whoa. Yeah, it's nuts. If you haven't. I'm not an expert on this. My friend Kira Davis, she's down. She is like deep down the rabbit hole. And she's been, you know, fighting for because it hurts like manicurists.

It hurts anyone who's basically freelance. Anyone who gets anyone who gets a. Why am I blanking on it? What is it where you get like a freelance? If you hired a designer, you know, up to a certain amount of money, you have to basically make them employee. It's messed up. What's my gym oh was it like a 1099 1099 yeah if so and it's it's just like completely messed up so people were have been yelling at gavin through this whole thing about during the pandemic they're like you have to overturn ab5 because now you're hurting people you're this bill is hurting people who can make money at a time where they can't even make money at all.

Jesus Christ. Yeah, I can't believe you. There's too many things to know about. I know, but AB5 is in California, and it's fucked a lot of people up in particular, freelance, anything, photographers, writers, makeup artists, anyone who basically gets paid not by salary so do you think we're not by the unions talk them into passing it this way it's something to do with the uber driver at the the rideshare drivers because their her argument is that it's to protect workers like Uber and Lyft drivers who the company can say you are you're working a gig and we don't need to protect you at all or give you any kind of benefits or give you sick time or anything or insurance or anything. And so it forces you to either join a union, basically. So her argument is that it's protecting vulnerable people from being exploited by these big corporations, which there has to be a way to do that without forcing everybody either to become an employee because you cannot work, you can't write more than 32 freelance pieces per

month, or you will have to join, you'll have to be employed by whoever you might be writing. Now, if you're a freelance writer, some of my friends are cranking like 100 of these things out. It's how they make their living. So I don't know. There are people who are much more educated on this than I am. I know very little about it. Because basically the way you protect yourself, if you're someone like me, who I get $10.99 by everyone, I get $10.99 by Patreon. You have to incorporate. So I have to become a corporation.

But that costs $800 in California just to incorporate. So not everybody has the money to become a corporation, but that costs $800 in California just to incorporate. So not everybody has the money to become a corporation. And that's the way that you could protect yourself from getting a fine. Because if I made a certain amount of money, or if I wrote a certain number of pieces, I would be fined for not having either the person that works for me would be fine. Again, I'm not exactly sure how it works because I had to just take measures and incorporate. But not everybody can do that. That's a bummer. That sounds like there was good intentions, but it just got fucked up.

I wish that I could believe that, but just seeing the way she behaves, even when anyone calls her out. I mean, there's a whole website devoted to people who are telling stories of how I had three friends who were writers who had to leave California. So people were leaving California before any of the pandemic because they couldn't make their living here anymore. And this was her. And it was because of her bill. She totally fucked over all these people, single moms, like people who are supposed to be the people that in theory she was protecting. And there's a whole website with story after story after story. Lorena, what's her last name?

Gonzalez. Gonzalez. Just the fact that you're- But she's the one who went after Elon. Just tweeting, fuck Elon Musk. Yeah. Come on. Yeah.

That's it? That's your whole thing? But this is Just tweeting, fuck Elon Musk. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. That's it? That's your whole thing? But this is the politics. Such a virtue signaling move. But I mean, again, I can't. We have a president who's tweeting. You know, there's like no civility in politics anymore. He provides jobs.

That's true. That's one thing that Trump did that really eroded it was his lack of civility, encouraged lack of civility among these young politicians that are coming up. And that's when you get to see things like, fuck Elon Musk. Imagine if you saw a politician say that 10 years ago. Oh my God, I can't believe it. Every time I hear it, I still flinch. It would be insane.

You wouldn't believe it was real. How is that real? Yeah, it's something that I wish got more attention. And it's definitely something that was turning people red before all of the pandemic and the lockdown when tulsi gabbard was on she said fuck a couple of times and i was like she's running for president she said fuck we're gonna get in trouble no she yeah the it's a uh a lot of people were already kind of leaving because of this and there's a i'll send when

we're done i'll find you the whole website california's got real problems right now and especially again if these other states open up and they control everything and they do all right and they don't have massive deaths. I mean, one thing that I have read is that Sweden did have a larger number of deaths than countries of a similar size. Because there's just been this narrative that Sweden— Oh, yeah, that they did it right. They did it right. But it's not true, though. I think once you actually dig down into it, there's more, again, more nuance to that.

Exactly. Yeah, that's what I read today, that it wasn't necessarily. But also, what Sweden did, they did because they thought it was the right thing for them. That's a whole different way to live. They live in little villages. There's not that many of them. It's not a giant-ass fucking country like America. The idea that you should have

the same law for Idaho in Boise or in the fucking mountains as you have for New York City is bonkers. That's crazy. You can't have that. It is kind of interesting that the states get to choose how they handle this. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's the way it should work.

It's supposed to work that way. I'm actually glad to see that. That's the other weirdest part of this whole fucking clusterfuck that we've been talking about is watching the Trump is literally Hitler crowd. For a while, they were all calling for him to institute martial law. Yeah.

I'm like, you guys are crazy. The governor said that. The governor said that today. He was talking about martial law. Why? Well, no, but they wanted Trump to institute federal martial law. I'm like, you want the guy that you're saying is literally Hitler to take over the whole country and not let every state do what they're supposed to do.

Do you even hear yourselves? Right, because they don't want people deciding in this state that they should be able to open up early. What's up, Jamie? I'm trying to understand it, so I didn't want to bring it up too fast, but a federal judge just passed something that said Los Angeles has like a week to move all homeless people away from the vicinity of a freeway or underpass. What? Oh, good.

It's unreasonably dangerous to allow people to live in areas that may be contaminated with lead and other toxins or that carry increased risk of being injured or killed in a car crash or earthquake. Wait a minute. No, no, no. That's why they're moving them? No, they should move them because they're not supposed to be there. What about the fact that they're like, it's unreasonable to let them get typhoid.

He said he was compelled to intervene because neither the city or county appeared to be addressing this problem with any urgency. No, they're not doing shit. Look, Gavin Newsom, our governor, was the mayor of San Francisco. Have you been to Venice since this? No. Because they made all the market, you know how you go down to Venice and there would be all the booths?

Well, you can't do that and nobody's allowed out. And it's like a tent city. Oh, my God. They're everywhere. Well, you know, they did an on And it's like a tent city. Oh my God. They're everywhere. Well, you know, they did a on purpose tent city in Brentwood. Oh,

okay. Oh yeah. The big one by the veterans. It's crazy. They have American flags on their tents. I'm like, did that come with the tent they gave you? They're never going to move.

They're never going to move. So if you're a person that's thinking about buying, they're nice tents. With American flags. They're not going to move. So if they're looking at that and then they're, you know, if you're going to buy a house in Brentwood, like you invested all your money, you've saved, you finally, we're going to

put our first money down on a home, honey. On a $2.3 million, 1,200 square foot overpriced. We've got good news and bad news. Yeah. The good news is we found a spot in Brentwood. The bad news is it's three feet from the homeless shelter. So you're going to hear people do meth and fucking shoot heroin in the middle of the night. I drove by that the other day.

I was shocked. It's like around the whole park and in it. Well, around the park are the people that don't want to follow the rules. So inside the park, you have to social distance. You have to keep your tent X amount of feet apart. But outside, they're like, fuck you, man. I'm over here. I'm a rebel.

So there's people on the outside with their own tents. So you've got the inside tent people that are the rule-following homeless people. And then you've got the outside tent people that don't give a fuck. Just outside the park. Yeah, just outside the park. How about in San Francisco? They put them in hotels and give them weed and booze i was like i say let's i was joking that that seems like a good way to solve their housing crisis

just incentivize homelessness if you left where would you go it's funny because i've been thinking about leaving before everybody was thinking about leaving and now that everybody is i'm like this is like when everyone's reading Harry Potter. I'm like, no. Well, it sounds like that bill was the first alarm, right? There have been a couple alarms. I mean, for me, I can't. I'm not wealthy and I can't get ahead.

I want a house. You know, I was I was looking at Arizona, actually. Arizona's great. Yeah. And I was looking around there and it's close enough to... I like Tucson. It's hot as fuck, but Prescott is

interesting. It's much cooler there, but it's like a retirement community from what I can tell. What about Sedona? A lot of hippies there. You could pray on them and start your own cult. I'm going to start a cult. Sedona's a spot for you. Maybe. Just start talking about channeling and energy. I was thinking about Texas, like everybody.

That's the problem. Everybody's thinking about Texas. Because they're wild and free. For now, until everybody moves there and votes like a lib. Exactly. That's what they did in Nevada, you know? Nevada's governor is a Democrat. So you're thinking about Texas?

I thought about Texas. Are you really going to go? You're going to leave a comedy store? I don't know if the comedy store is going to exist. Why? Because it's been shut down for months and it might continue to be shut down. We don't know when they're going to be able to have a live show again. Yeah.

We don't know. Yeah. What if it's 2021? What if it's somewhere around like April of next year? Yeah. I mean, if it's not making money, that spot would be very hard if you owned it, not to just be like, all right, it's going to be a high rise. Listen, this whole world right now, I'm saying listen like I know, but the whole world in

a year from now is going to be unrecognizable. The whole world. This kind of a disruption of the economy is unprecedented. We've never had it worldwide. No one's ever had it had it yeah it's not like things are just going to start back up again people that would work forever are starting from scratch this is what's so frustrating to people because politicians for the most part are not people that are successful business people they're politicians well yeah especially the lifetimers and they're getting to dictate how professional businesses operate and run and what they need to stay open and what they need to stay

alive and their solution to everything is we'll get them we'll send them money and but in the funds do you see the pelosi's fund this uh what they what they put in a bunch of like like provisions for women who own cannabis businesses and shit. It's like a social justice warrior's dream. I feel like again, I hate to be the both sides girl, but I think everybody's, that's a bit of a

grab bag for everybody. And that's how it always is. With politicians, right? Yeah, with the bailouts. I'm so like, no bailouts. Like, fuck all these people. Especially the cruise ships. Fuck you. They're not even American.

I know. They're not even supposed to be here. I know. It's outrageous. That's where we put the homeless people. Put them on the cruise ships. Tim Dillon and I were talking about that because the amount of money that it costs a week, it's like $100 a week.

Yeah. You could be on a cruise ship. Like, that's like less than $25 a day. But that's where they all get it, I think. Of course, but they'll be fine. They'll be like prisoners. They get it, but everybody's asymptomatic. Every time the cruise ship stuff comes up,

I think about Bill Burr's routine. Oh, he has a routine on cruise ships? Yeah, he does a whole thing about it. That's how he's going to thin out the population if he's a dictator. Which special is this on? It's on Walk Your Way Out, I think.

No, not the most recent one. It's the one in between. The national one? Yeah, yeah. I'll have to watch that one. That's the one I haven't seen. It is so... I saw the black and white one

and I saw the paper tiger one. It's excellent. It's really good. The most recent one The black and white one's my favorite. That's probably... That's my favorite. I don't know.. It's really good. The most recent one The black and white one is my favorite. That's probably That's my favorite. I don't know.

Paper Tiger is really good too. The new Paper Tiger one is very good. I was listening to it. I was watching it. I don't know if I saw the whole thing and then one day

I was in my room and my roommate was watching it and all I heard was screaming for like 25 minutes and I was like what are you watching?

She's like Bill Burr. I was like oh wow he got angry this special. I was like, oh, wow. He got angry this special. I don't remember him being so mad. I thought she was watching just something. But yeah. Was she screaming laughing?

No, he was screaming. Oh, he was screaming. All I heard was screaming from the television. I'm like, what are you watching? Oh, I thought it was her. She was screaming at him. Yeah, it was funny. It was really. That's a good idea, though.

But homeless people on the cruise ships would really solve the problem. Because it costs... Jamie and I were talking about it with Tim Dillon. It costs like $105 for a week. Like, you can't eat for $105 for a week. Yeah. Right? If you only got $100 a week for food, you'd be kind of fucked.

Like, God damn it. You know, if you want to for food, you'd be kind of fucked. God damn it. If you want to eat healthy, you'd have to go to McDonald's. $10 a day is $70 for the week. Imagine living on $10 a day for food. You'd have to eat fast food. Or really good food. But even if you ate steak and fish,

that's more than $10 a day. If you're eating healthy. Carnival coups. Look at this. Look at this. $105. I loved yeah. That's more than $10 a day. Yeah. You know, if you're eating healthy. Carnival cruise. Look at this. Look at this. $105. I loved him. Four nights. Okay, that's not bad. That's different. Were we looking at a carnival one before? Maybe we should do

a stand-up show on a cruise. The amount of food that you can eat. Will they allow us on there? Are they up and running? They are up and running. No, this is for September, it says so. But in September they are. What if we take all of stand-up comedy to the cruise lines?

Why do that when you can go to Texas? Texas Comedy Club's already open. The Comedy Club's are open. Houston Comedy Club, Houston Improv's open. Brian Cowan's there next weekend. Okay. Okay. He's there, yeah. Like, what is today's date? I think Cowan's there next weekend. Okay. Okay. He's there.

Yeah. Like, what is today's date? I think Cowan's there the two weeks. All of that. He's there two weeks? All of that angsty energy for me has been going. I've just been pouring it into, like, my, it's basically me yelling in my garage. My neighbors must think I'm insane. Good.

And dumpster fire, but it's not the same. You know, I have two, my roommate, Samantha, and my cousin. That's my audience. And I just am like, ah! Well, and then people sold out. Of course it sold out. Bam! I mean, this is the difference.

This is the thing that could make me move. What, stand up? Being able to go do things. Yes. My friend in Austin, Adam Curry, he texted me. He goes, I went to a restaurant. It was like, wow. He was telling me about it. But he did it weeks ago.

Texas, it was like two weekends ago. He went to a restaurant. Texas is, yeah. There was a great book that I was reading. It was all about the genius of the Texas Constitution. And why, no matter how many people from, and I'm not exactly sure why, so don't even ask me to explain it, but I should find the book. It's basically like their constitution is so good, it couldn't become California even if everybody in California moved there. Really?

I have to find this book. It's really interesting. I'm just not that smart. Well, they were a republic, right? They were a unit that could actually secede from the Union. They weren't the same as a state. They fucking might at this rate. It might be worth it for them.

Who knows? This fucking thing is so weird. Like the world is a different place than it was in January. January rolled around. You had one idea of the world and here we are in May and it's a different world.

That's never happened before without some sort of a monstrous I mean it has I think. Terrestrial event or war. Yeah. Other than that what's ever happened like this, where everybody got shut down financially? Yeah, that's what's... The positive side of things, I think, is that businesses will start again. Hopefully people will get through this. They'll be resilient. I think people are.

And I think also people will understand that it can go away. Right. it. I think people are. And I think also people understand that it can go away. Right. And so we'll be much more hesitant to give up the reins like we did this time. I was on Mother's Day and it was basically in Brentwood and it was like everyone was out. There's traffic again. Yeah. People were driving around. Yeah. They're not following the rules. No, no, no. But we'll be much more hesitant to give up the reins to this irresponsible government. They didn't know what they were doing and they pretended they did. And once they had an idea and they were implementing that idea, they refused to be flexible.

And they changed the goalposts. Is Elon actually leaving? He's thinking about leaving. He doesn't know what to do. Well, he opened up his plan. He's like, fuck you, arrest me. And they're like, oh, just kind of open up. They're not doing shit about it.

That was like the cops on the beach. They were like, please leave the beach. And everyone's like, fuck you. Elon Musk has a goddamn bullhorn, though. And also, he's right. He's talking about the statistical numbers. This is not what you said it was going to be. This is why everything shut down, because you were worried it was going to be far more fatal than it is. It's not. It's not that bad, regardless of treatments. I mean, it's terrible for people who get it when their body goes bad, but it's not as big of a pandemic as we were all worried about.

As horrible as that sounds for anybody who lost anybody. No, I mean, that's the thing, too. I have friends who are nurses and on the front lines, and it's a very, you know, because we're not exposed to it, it's a very different experience. It's almost like you live in two different worlds and people who are on the front lines they're in a war yeah and they leave and we're all like why can't we open up yeah you're right and they're like fuck you you're right you're right good point and then there's people that are also uh in hospitals where they're being furloughed because they can't work because there's no one there.

And the hospitals are going bankrupt. I know. It's very, it's a clusterfuck. It's a clusterfuck. We have no solutions. But we did talk shit for four hours. Woo! It was like three hours and 20 minutes, right?

Dude. Marathon. We just flow. We do. That was fun, though. It was fun. Thank you. I'm glad.

I'm glad we got you in here and we need to do this more often. Well, since I'm one of the only guests that can come now. Yeah. Well, there's people in California still. I think we're going to be able to. We're going to be all right. We're going to be okay, Bridget. Dumpster fire.

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