The Joe Rogan Experience - #148 - Kevin Pereira

Episode Date: October 19, 2011

Joe sits down with Kevin Pereira.

What you got on your toes? Brian, what have you done? Yeah. Brian, it's... Ear-shattering motherfucker. Is there a volume slider on these bad boys? Yes. When I'm an old man on a mountain somewhere and my ears are ringing, I'm gonna be like,

Fucking Brian. Got in there. He got me, the fuck. He wore it all out. Beat my eardrums in. There's a few guys that come over the house and we have to just keep saying don't talk don't talk okay nobody talk nobody talk because you know once kevin gets over here the moment he arrived i i met him in my driveway and immediately we start talking about

how siri is fucking skynet and i mean it's like right out of the gate i'm like shit man we haven't even uh got into it yet we haven't even started talking well i offered you i gave you the opportunity to wipe your workout stink all over myself. And Joe actually went for it. It was pretty fucking gross. Was he sweating? He put me in a scissor lock in his driveway and was like, dude, absorb my essence. I'm used to jujitsu, man.

I'm used to dudes sweating on me. But I came out all sweaty because I was hitting the bag. And I was like, I'll give you a hug. But he goes, nah, come on, man. I go, all right. And then he panicked. Oh, I ran. I ran hitting the bag. I was like, I'll give you a hug. He goes, come on, man. I go, all right. He panicked. I ran for the hills. The first time I moved out here, the first time I went over to Joe's house,

he was working out with his friend, Eddie. He answered the door. This is when he was insane. You're probably more now, but you were insanely ripped. Eddie and you both came to the door sweaty as hell and did the same thing. Gave the man a hug. Those were totally different weightlifting days. I had more

bodybuilding muscle back then, but I wasn't as strong. It's weird. Your description sounded like a little bit of slash fiction there for a second. Slash fiction? Yeah, like he writes the story Oh yeah, Joe came out of the garage and the sun was glistening off his hips. His nipples were protruding out of his ass. That made no sense. That've dipped into slag.

That's called slash fiction? Yeah, it's a whole subset of fiction. People who write sexual fiction about celebrities. Star Trek really kicked it off. Really? Yeah. What? How do I not know about this?

So what you're saying is that there's a whole genre of fiction pornography about famous people. Yeah, or it's fantasy porn. Yeah, there's probably Care Bears slash fiction out there. Oh, or like it's fantasy porn. Yeah, there's probably Care Bears slash fiction out there. Oh, I'm sure there is. I probably wrote some of it. How fucking weird are people, man, that they have like sexuality intertwined into their hobbies and their fetishes and their weird TV shows that they're into?

This podcast brought to you by Fleshlight. How weird is it to have sexuality intertwined into everything? Yeah, but that's just something to jerk off into. I mean, everybody jerks off and all the Fleshlight is is a technological improvement on jerking off. So what if I need slash fiction about, like, what if I need a good story about the brawny towel guy

fucking the Jolly Green Giant? What if I need that to get off? But there's people that are into that kind of shit, right? That's like, now that you brought this up. It could be pretty hot. I remember somebody else having a conversation with me about this and they were talking about how there's a website where people are into different cartoon characters. First porn I ever bought was a Playboy Jessica Rabbit issue.

Wait a minute. Now that I'm realizing, now I'm thinking back again, now it was like, there was like all this porn that used to be online where it was like the flintstones fucking yeah that was like really hardcore hardcore and it was weird because it was kind of like hot you know like you know fred was fucking uh banging barney roll's wife what was her name was it betty betty rubble betty rubble fred was banging betty rubble see max and ruby Joe. It's awesome on there. Max and Ruby? They have everything.

They have Dari or whatever that... Dora the Explorer? Yeah. Do they really? I saw a Simpsons takeover ad once that popped up, and it was like Maggie had a penis. The baby had a penis. The female baby. And was like fucking Marge's mouth with it. Whoa.

And I was like, hold on. There are hot singles in my area that want to chat with me. I got to attend to them first. Does anything ever shock you anymore? Like anything at all? No. Like any videos or nothing? I'm pretty desensitized, man.

Didn't you just say before we started, though, there was one? There is one. There is one. Like, you got to understand, I've seen like soldiers get heads cut off. And I've seen some sick shit at like eight or nine years old when I was on bulletin boards. You were on Style Project back in the day. What? As I was.

Back in the day. This was before Style. I used to go to that. Style was like the first. Style is how I This was before Style. I used to go to that. Style was like the first. Style is how I know you. Yeah, I talked to that guy online still.

He sent me a Facebook message and I sent him back one. Yeah, supposedly. It might not be the real Style. Who knows? I talked to him on the phone once.

Style's more of a movement. He's not a person. He's anonymous now, I thought. I talked to him on the phone once. We were on a radio show. I was on the phone

and he was on the radio show at the same time. What was he like? It was like an internet radio show. He's a good guy. Yeah? Yeah, he's just a kid, you know? I don't know him well. I don't know his thing.

But boy, did he have a crazy fucked up sight. You should get him on a show or you should get him on a show. Oh, totally get him on a show. That's something that's never been done on, like no one's ever really seen style. Yeah, I would have to know if it was the real style though. How the hell would you know? By his kiss. A guy who has a blog like that, have to know if it was the real Style, though. How the hell would you know? By his kiss. A guy who has a blog like that, you probably know pretty quick.

I don't think so. There's a lot of guys that would be fake Styles that I think would look just as good. Just have them log in the Style Project. So chat with a guy who's trolling as Style. Why not? He's one of the guys that really, the first guy to promote my website, though, on the internet. Yeah. He made a blog post about my comedy being really funny and my website being really cool.

And then also these people started coming over to my message board, and then it started taking off. That's one of the reasons why at the beginning my website was so sick, too, I'm sure. My message board has always been so twisted. It was styling. The style infection from the beginning. Have you been to Rotten.com recently? Yeah. They need to hire a web designer.

It's the exact same website as it was since the beginning of the internet. I don't think they need to. You want the web 2.0 version of dudes shitting in people's mouths? Yes. Like that's what you want? That car accident. Does rotten really need its own app? Right.

What exactly is web 2.0? It's got to have rounded corners and glossy buttons and reflections. What is it? It was a concept for a set of standards for how the web should work at the time. So it was like, you know,

web 2.0, you know, things should be, you know, cloud-based, stored in the server. There should be endless scrolls on pages.

There's all these things that happen with iterations of the web, you know. I just saw it on, the first time I saw it was years ago on some guy's website

who makes websites. His websites were kind of whack. And, you know, I had this thing about Web 2.0. Like, he was, like, using all the right terms and everything, but his work was whack. Right. And I was like, oh. Well, synergize the web with the content management system from the future.

Yeah, it's a weird thing, right? When anything becomes popular, you know, there's people who are, like, real, for real geeks. And then there's people who see geekdom as an opportunity to sort of make some money and they pretend to be geeks you know i've never experienced that in my life you've never experienced fake geeks not once really what are you smiling like that for i'm just i'm just saying it's a pleasure to not experience i see it every day oh of course you do every fucking day yeah you're kidding right every day you see fake geeks yeah is it annoying to you being a real geek you know someone someone out there Every day you see fake geeks. Yeah. Is it annoying to you being a real geek?

You know, someone out there thinks I'm as fake as they come as well. By the way, I'm a geek as well. And when I say this, I'm not saying, like, you know, I'm a mean person calling someone a geek. You know, and I'm an undereducated geek. I wouldn't say I'm a fake geek. I just don't know how anything works. I'm into it all, but I don't know how it works.

You put.net instead of.tv, by the way, on your link, so everyone's freaking out on Twitter. Did I really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sorry, folks. Here, I'll retweet that shit.

Are we live? Is this? Yeah. This is super live. Is there, what was the video? Did you ever say what the video was that you?

Do we want to get into that? Is this too gross? I mean, it's dark. It was fucking dark. I mean, I don't know. For whatever reason, it rocked me. There was a Reddit post on people that are making knockoff ug boots in china and they

said that there's these entire factories where they're just cutting up dogs while they're alive just skinning dogs alive and taking that fur and processing it up and serving it out there as an ug boot and i'm like dude you know what i don't i used to click on this stuff and i used to i can't do that i used to pride myself on separating these I used to, I can't do that. I used to pride myself on separating, these are just pixels on a screen. These are ones and zeros, this isn't real, there's no emotion here, there's no, eh.

I was so desensitized from those early days and I was like, oh fuck it, let's see this video, let's see what this world really is. And it just shattered me, it ruined my whole fucking day. It's ruined my week, it's still like in my head, which, you know what, like good, because at least now I'm talking about it. It was a graphic terrible thing, but I didn't know they did that. fucking day it's ruined my week it's still like in my head which you know what like good because at least now i'm talking about it it was a graphic terrible thing but i didn't know they do that i

know they skin fucking dogs alive yeah to make knockoff ugg boots i've seen that video it's very hard to watch it's hard right it's very hard to watch any of those skinning videos those are horrific because you know they show the bodies they're still alive they don't even bother killing them no they just they you know they can't they don't kill them first they skin them while they're still breathing and they feel everything and it's they're so insensitive They don't even bother killing them. They don't kill them first. They skin them while they're still breathing, and they feel everything. And they're so insensitive. It doesn't bother them even the slightest. There's levels of humanity people dip down to that's very disturbing. I'm sure you've seen the dolphin decks in Japan where they have dolphins laid on a deck,

50, 60 dolphins, and they just slice their throats. They pull them out of the water right and they slice their Throats and it is horrific how else but I'm sorry I have to play devil's advocate. How else are they supposed to do their? scientific research It's fucking terrible it's just a bullet man You can't shoot him in the head if you're gonna kill him you can't shoot him in the head You got to do it that way and I'm not saying you should kill him You know I'm not first for killing them But how horrific is it that they did the You've got to do it that way. And I'm not saying you should kill them. I'm not for killing them.

But how horrific is it that the way they choose to do it is to bleed them out? But you're asking for like an ounce of humanity and some of the most inhumane acts of life. And that's like – that's okay to ask for. It's okay to ask for. It's really disturbing, right? But what is it that allows some folks to go to a place? Is it necessity I mean what the fuck is it that allows people to not give even one shit about a dolphin or a dog that they

make boots out of or anybody because they don't see the dolphin or the dog they see their survival and their family survival yeah that's all they see it's a necessity thing it's a gotta be a necessity right like I mean if you had a choice of doing a podcast every day or slitting dolphins throats you would do a podcast every day this person doesn't throats you would do a podcast every day this person doesn't have that choice or at least they don't feel that like they have that choice i would imagine if they had that if some dudes out there was like oh dude sweet i get to i get to skin a fucking greyhound today can't wait i'm gonna punch some rabbits in the face before i get

home if someone's really thinking that i don't i can't i don't want to wrap my head around of course they are i mean there's people there people there's dark people no doubt about it I know that there are people that do that but I mean systematically for hundreds of thousands of workers to do that

I don't want to believe that that's their attitude I've watched videos of people beating cows when they work with in the slaughterhouse and they're hitting cows with hammers and shit

well that just makes them tastier that's pure that's pre-tenderization I went to the city pound today and have you ever been to a city Pound?

I've had dogs taken from Pounds. My dog Squeaky. Remember Squeaky? I don't understand how any of these dogs ever get taken. All the dogs there today all look fucking dirty. Beat up. Just nasty. All of them were barking. It was the most saddest, depressing

thing ever. I watched somebody give up their dog this this this girl about 24 came in with a pit and she goes i need to surrender this dog and they're like it's 25 and she goes all right and she gives him 25 and then she gives the uh the leash to the woman and the dog didn't want to leave the girl's side and so the woman had to like pull and like drag the dog through and then the woman just seemed unfazed by it, though. And I'm just like, holy. Which woman?

The woman that was giving up the dog. And I'm just like, how do you? If I have a dog that I need to get rid of, even for whatever reason, it's never going to be that, I don't think. It's going to be find a friend first, find something first. The dog was probably nuts. Or hopefully it's that issue it's not that she didn't have the space for it or the time for it right because when people do that and they bring a dog to a pound i mean you're just asking someone else to kill the thing you're just

asking you're just like take it out out take it out of my hand take it out of my head i don't want it in my head anymore here you put it in your head now now you deal with it well it's crazy some people are like that and i think some people are just really irresponsible and inconsiderate, and they don't, you know, it's like, well, I'll get this thing for two minutes, and then okay, I'm done with this play thing. I got my love. I was really surprised, though, that they didn't clean up the dogs, because my friend works at the shelter, and the place

they did, they take dogs that are about to die, like, to be put to sleep, and they rescue those dogs. Then they clean them up and repackage them, you know, and then, like, you know, refurbish them, or whatever, and then these dogs amazing looking you walk in you want every single dog and these are all dogs about to die it's like you would think this like city pound yeah a little city pound would hire four kids you know in high school to clean up these dogs there's no money yeah there's no money for anything those poor people yeah anybody i mean that's a that's a dark

road when when you especially today when you deal with all the fucking economic hardships that are hitting people and then you ask people to care about dogs right good luck they had roosters there though snakes they had bunnies they had tons of bunnies and chickens and like fucking like it was crazy that's like the new thing that's like the new thing to have, I think, is a rooster. Yeah. No joke. Well, also, there's a lot of people. I mean, that was like a hipster thing for a minute there. Are you serious? Yeah, dead serious.

Can you turn my microphone down? Yeah. My headset down? Same here, please. Yeah, it's really loud, man. I went to my old gardener who used to fight roosters. Actually cockfight them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like strap razor blades on their feet yeah the whole deal a little louder little

louder that's good good yeah he he used to raise him and fight him you know and he took me to like where his friend has like this whole setup where they have hundreds of these different roosters in these cages and shit what's the set it was just like underground? No. In an alley kind of thing? He had a lot of space. It's really weird, man, because it's not that far from here. I mean, you drive maybe 20 minutes, and you're in Mexico, bro.

I mean, you're really in Mexico. Oh, I thought you saw this here. No, no, no. I mean, it is here. Okay. It's close. I'm saying it's in Mexico because everything's in Spanish. Right.

It is here. Okay. It's close. I'm saying it's in Mexico because everything's in Spanish. Right. The entire neighborhood is, they've just completely turned this one neighborhood, I don't want to say where it is, into essentially like a branch of Mexico. It's nuts. Everything is in Spanish.

Every sign at every store was in Spanish. Really? Yeah, it was amazing. I was like, this is kind of cool that they've been able to do this. It's kind of weird. I'm like, come on, man. You're in America. Just learn the fucking language. It's not that hard. I was like, this is kind of cool that they've been able to do this. It's kind of weird. I'm like, come on, man. You're in America. Just learn the fucking language.

It's not that hard. I know it. All right? And I know a lot of idiots that know English. You could do it. Just get a goddamn rose out of stone. Figure your shit out. But to them, I guess they want to be around their people.

And there's nothing wrong with that, man. This guy was cool as fuck, this Gardner. Did he show you? Did you actually go watch one? No, I didn't watch the actual fight itself. But I went and watched them fuck around. I went and watched them train with each other. They train them.

They have them go at each other with no spurs on them. They decide when to pull them off. They do a bunch of shit to them. They feed them certain food to make sure that they're strong, high protein. Yeah, they have championship lines of roosters. You want to buy roosters and breed them with championship bloodlines because you want a really aggressive, badass rooster that really knows how to get after you.

Is there a fantasy league for cockfighting? That's funny. Because that needs to be built. That needs to be put together. Gambling. A lot of gambling. That's what I mean. Farmville, too.

You know, bring it in. Bring it into Vegas. You've got to be there live. Legitimize it. Well, I think it's legit in a couple of states. I think it's legal in a couple of states. I think it's legal in a couple of states. Is it? I thought that was illegal everywhere.

Really? I would imagine something like that. To me, it's like dog fighting. How would that even... No, no. No, no, no. It's not dog fighting. Dogs are awesome.

Chickens can suck my dick. All right? I never care about chickens. There's some dude at home, though, right in the middle of his roost that feels the same way about his about dogs they're cold-hearted dinosaurs okay cockfighting is now illegal in all 50 states and in washington dc hey we the last state to make yeah yeah it's interesting wow i think it was uh it was legal pretty recently, though. It's not illegal in West Hollywood. Shut up, Brian.

Trying to be gay and funny, you silly goose. He is apparently... What was the gay Jim Carrey thing that you were watching? Oh, that movie. Yeah, he's talked about that. Did you ever watch that? No, I didn't. No, but he said the reason he watched it was that, well, it was on, but the remote was so far away that I was just like, ah.

I'm like, that's your excuse for watching gay porn like you just wanted to watch two dudes fuck well it doesn't start off like that i'm sorry here's the information louisiana was the last date and it was 2007 so that's pretty goddamn recently yeah ban took effect in 2008 someone's still fighting to repeal that there you know it yeah yeah it's fascinating like rappers yeah well well i know that um uh roy jones jr is a huge proponent of the cockfighting you know he used to fly in private jets with roosters he was flying like he was the fucking middleweight champion of the world you know flying around a goddamn private jet he would bring like 10 roosters with him in cages wow yeah he was nuts man and he would fight them himself oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah wow there's no backlash for that for him or no well it's not the same man you know like the

backlash from michael vick look there's a big difference you you tell someone someone fights dogs and you go whoa man that's kind of fucked up you know like and and then you heard the other shit that vick did where he would we'd electrocute the dogs or drown them or shoot him in the head like he murdered him he murdered a bunch of dogs And that takes a certain personality that we don't like. Yeah, that's the personality we were just talking about. Exactly. Even worse because this is a multi-millionaire. This isn't a guy who's in any state of necessity. This isn't cruelty because he's in a bad position and he needs to do this because he's got to put food on the table. No, this is a guy who's getting off on killing animals for sure.

And we just kind of accepted him back into the fold because he's got to put food on the table. No, this is a guy who's getting off on killing animals for sure. And we just kind of accepted him back into the fold because he's really good at football. And I know people say, well, he did his time. Yeah, I guess he did do his time. But there's a certain amount of what he did that's so horrific that it just makes you really hesitant to ever forgive someone for that kind of behavior. You know, I forgive someone for fucking up.

I forgive someone for saying things. I forgive someone for that kind of behavior. You know, I forgive someone for fucking up. I forgive someone for saying things. I forgive someone for racism. I forgive someone for poor mental choices. But when you kill 100 dogs, man, and you electrocute them and shoot them and stab them and do all that shit that he supposedly did, I don't like you. I don't think I'll ever like you.

I don't think I can like you. I think you're capable of doing some shit that I would never imagine. And how far back have you bounced from that 180 degrees are you a perfect person now right are you just less creepy because you know the cameras are on you and you don't want to go back to jail for killing dogs fuck you man do you think there's an expectation though that people have an expectation like well okay he did his time so you should forget i guess you should yeah because i don't have that expectation i I would like to believe.

I would like to believe that people can fully learn from, but man, I like dogs, and that drove me crazy, and I like pit bulls. And you know what? Pit bulls like to fight, man. That is a fact. They like it. I've had to break my dogs up many times when I have pit bulls, and it's scary, especially they don't want to let go,

and they're wagging their tails. They're both wagging their tails, and they're locked onto each other's faces. You know uh it's scary especially they don't want to let go and they're wagging their tails they're both wagging their tails and they're locked onto each other's faces you know it's crazy it's crazy but that's what they do man it's it's they're thousands of years of genetic breeding and you know what it's this coming from a person who's deeply involved in human fighting so for me like dog fighting is what is it less brutal than what I fucking watch every weekend is it less brutal than you know than Alistair Overeem kicking you in the

fucking head with his shin I think a dog biting you might be a little less brutal than that you know it might be less brutal

than having Cain Velasquez punch a fucking hole through your face like he did to Brock Lesnar you know I mean shit

yeah but those guys are in there because they want to be there they're making the conscious decision to be there guess what

the dogs want to do it too they want to bite through the fucking fence some do yeah but they be there. Guess what? The dogs want to do it too. They want to bite through the fucking fence. Some do, yeah, but they're also killing each other and there's no referee. The really scary thing is they want to stop it. Well, yes, they are. That's not true. They stop until you die.

No, no, no, that's not true. That's not true. The dogs, they break the dogs and then they bring them back together again. If the dog shies away, they stop it. That's incorrect. But where is the electrocution and the drowning that you brought up? That's all dogs that are not game. The electrocution and the drowning that you brought up.

That's all dogs that are not game. The idea is you never breed a dog that is human aggressive. You never breed a dog that quits. You never breed a dog that is scared of another dog, a dog that backs away. The thing that they've done with pit bulls is they've taken this animal and they've engineered it into a super fighter. And there's no other dog that comes close to a pit bull when it comes to dog fighting. There's no other dog. And this isn't, you know, I'm not bragging about this.

This isn't like fanboy talk. This is just what they've done. They've taken this animal. They've made it something very unusual. What they've done is they've made an animal that's absolutely unafraid to die, absolutely unafraid of pain, absolutely unafraid of conflict and impact, they go right after other dogs. There's no hesitation. A lot of dogs, they growl. They try to figure out who's going to be the boss. They'll piss on a fence. They might even be able

to avoid a fight altogether. There's no avoiding a fight with Pitbull. None. Zero. If there's a wild, if it's a Pitbull and he's out of his cage and he's a male and he has his balls and there's another dog that's a male and has his balls and that dog does anything even remotely resembling something that challenges the pit bull's dominance, there's a fight. He's been bred for that. Yeah, unless you're just a bad motherfucker, Cesar Millan

guy and you've done a really good job of breeding your dog or you've got a particular docile version of the breed where many many many generations of breeders have bred the gameness out of pits when i'm talking about game pit bulls most people what you see when you see a pit bull you see this like 90 pound muscular big headed that's not a game pit bull a game pit bull is about 35 pounds they're very small and they look like like almost like a beagle, man.

I mean, I don't want to, not really, but they don't look like the dogs that we are used to seeing. They look like these little sinewy, little like springy athletic dogs. The idea was you had to get a small dog because you had to be able

to physically separate them when they're going at it. If you got two 90 pound pit bulls going at first of all they don't last they gas out really quick just like heavyweight fighters and they gas out really quick and they um you can't separate them they're too fucking strong it's too dangerous too two 35 pounders you just get right in there and pick them up 25 pounder 28 pounder so they have weight classes and they put dogs on treadmills so i guess i get that they treat it like a sport i get that they treat it like you know like anybody else would treat something professional but does that make it okay to be breeding the dogs for that

no it certainly doesn't i mean i don't support it in any way no no and i wasn't implying that you do but i mean like that's what you see i i'm a hypocrite though because like i said you just said it's less violent than ufc no it's not really. I mean, the dogs get fucking bit by pit bulls. I'm kind of kidding, and I'm kind of exaggerating, but I did say it. But what I meant was, I mean, I am around voluntary human violence amongst the most intelligent species on the planet on a regular basis. And for sure, I know those guys enjoy it. And I think the dogs enjoy it, too. I don't think they should do it.

I hated watching dogs fight. When I'd come home and dogs would get angry and, you know, sometimes it would be a fight over attention. You know, you come home and they decide like one person wants to pet you, wants to get pet, and then the other dog wants to get pet and they'll fucking growl at each other. And it's really annoying, you know. And it's one of the things that happens when you have a bunch of dogs but my my point about pit bulls was not that you know that it's there's anything good about what they do no you're just saying this is what they do this is what they do right and what i mean i think a dog could be bred to love being pet just as much as it loves aggression

no matter how aggressive the dog is so i mean of course over many generations well my dog now is what's called a Regency Mastiff. And what a Regency Mastiff is is a Neapolitan Mastiff that's bred with a pit bull. Fucking one percenter. What it essentially is is this big, strong, athletic pit bull-mastiff combination. But there's no dog aggression at all. And no people aggression. But it's because I know the guy who breeds it.

And he breeds for the exact opposite. He breeds, if the dogs show any aggression to anybody, done. No breeding. Right. Make an undo. He has them fixed. He has them fixed. But he doesn't kill them.

He's not shooting them in the head. You know, he's a breeder who loves animals. Sure. He'll come over his house when his dogs are playing with his two-year-old daughter. You know what I mean? It's like, you can do amazing things with animals through breeding and what they've done with the pit bull is an amazing thing i love the dogs they're amazing dogs the guy had one at the gym the other day i couldn't stop petting it

they're fascinating animals be brought to the gym yeah yeah guys bring it jujitsu come on my friend i bring the fish boot to the gym um the um The thing about them is because they've been bred that way, we're only the strongest, most aggressive, the ones with the most impenetrable will. Those are the only ones that are allowed to breed in the dogfighting community. The other ones are culled. They're either killed or they're neutered

or they're given to people as pets. But when you have that, what you get is this incredibly energetic, intelligent animal. You get this survivor. You get this cream-of-the-crop genetic specimen of a dog. They're just fucking amazing dogs.

I feel the same way about Yorkie Poos. Fucking, you get the adorableness of the Yorkshire, you get the intelligence of the poodle. There you go. I mean, who doesn't want that on a calendar or in their living room? Yeah, we'll have a pit bull.

Once you have a pit bull, it's very hard to take other dogs seriously. Really? Yeah, German Shepherds are pretty easy to take seriously. They're pretty good. My buddy's cousin trains German Shepherds. Very smart dog. And he taught, like, he trains them for, like, celebrities. And I guess he taught Jay-Z's dog, Diamonds.

Really? Yeah, if he tells a German Shepherd, Diamonds. Oh, that's hilarious. I hope it isn't Al Jay-Z you tell the German Shepherd, Diamonds. Oh, that's hilarious. I hope it isn't Al Jay-Z, but I think that's so awesome. Oh, that's hilarious. Isn't that the coolest thing ever? Yeah, German Shepherds are super, super smart. You can't just leave a German Shepherd in the yard.

They'll find a way out, man. They don't like it. If they have to, they'll stay in the yard, but they get bored really quick. They're task-oriented animals. They're SWAT team members. They are treated like SWAT team members yeah like they you know they are treated like melamois the smaller versions that look just like german shepherds but

they're smaller same thing you know those dogs are super smart both german shepherds at the pound today both just standing at attention not making barking or anything and that i have accepted my fate too they're great dogs german shepherds are great dogs i i had a german shepherd my grandfather had one when I was growing up. What a great dog it was. It was literally a dog would go check on things, watch over the kids. Kids would be playing, my cousins would be playing, and the dog would just stand there and watch over them and make sure everybody's okay. Right. The ultimate host.

Make sure nobody came around. You guys cool? You need anything? If people would walk by the front, if he was by the babies and the little kids and the little kids were playing and people would walk by the front gate, the dog would take two steps towards the fence just in case he needed to go jack somebody. Just take two steps and then he would look back at the little kids, look back at the little kids. And I'm like this, I was like six and I realized this. I'm like, this motherfucker's guarding these dogs, these babies.

That's awesome. The dog is guarding them. You don't see that from very many dogs. Most dogs don't give a fuck about somebody's baby so fuck this baby lick my balls let me eat some food bacon strip later

yeah this is a totally different animal it's weird hey you mentioned Michael Vick did his time and I don't want to tangentialize too much

but I mean I think it's crazy that this Occupy stuff is going on and I haven't had a chance to talk to you about it I don't know where you fall or what you've seen

but it's crazy that those guys haven't done any time yet. Well, there's no leader. That's the thing. They're trying to find someone to put away where they can stop the movement. The scariest thing about Occupy Wall Street for them is that there's no one person with a megaphone. Right. That's the only reason they're lasting so long. I mean it could be.

It's getting bigger too. It's bigger and bigger every day. This is the beginning of something huge. Right. This is not just what it looked like. What it looked like was like one of them fucking glenn beck rallies that just got got real long lasted a while everybody's pissed yeah i get it you're pissed i'm pissed too but then after a couple weeks it's like this is not the same this is a different feeling this has a this has an overthrow the government feel to it yeah i mean i saw people

out there for the first time with giant signs that said audit the Fed. Yeah. And I was like, I didn't see you guys out here for any other rally. And maybe that's just because my eyes weren't open enough. But I went, okay, if this is how it's going to go down, let's get it going. Well, I've had some discussions about this on my message board. And there's some real good points that a lot of these guys brought up that I agree with. And one of them is that there's not a lot of cohesive message to to this thing right it's like there's so many different people with

so many different that's gonna happen with any movement sure absolutely especially a movement with no leader right you know that they go there and they're like stop the drone killings you know and there's pita people there and there's there's fucking solar people there and hemp people there and there's legalized marijuana people there and everyone's got their own signs and it's not just occupy wall street it's everything that sucks and i don't think i had a sign that said shit's fucked up and it's bullshit and i was like abso-fucking-lutely dude shit's fucked up so that's reason enough to get out there and right now the major concern is watching special interest groups agent provocateurs yeah watch them try to roll into the fray

and do their YouTube videos to fight back and their CNN coverage to picture the protest in a certain direction. It's so fascinating to watch the way the steps were outlined for it. Here's what happened to the Tea Party. Here's how every other movement has been marginalized. Excuse me, coffee bad.

Marginalized every other movement for years. And to watch those steps playing out right now with Occupy Wall Street and seeing if it's going to thrive or if it's going to crumble in on itself. Do you think that someone marginalized the Tea Party or do you think they just did it to themselves? The people who truly,

and this is from Reddit articles and from what I can cobble together on Wikipedia, but the people who were at the true heart of the original Tea Party were anti-Federal Reserve. They were anti-Big Banks. They were anti-corporations. And a lot of people said, well, they're Ron Paul supporters.

So they got lumped in as, hey, you're Ron Paul, so you're Republican. And they're like, wait, but we're not necessarily Republican. I mean, we do believe in some of Ron Paul's ideas. Nope, you're Republican. Now we're going to get some crazies out there with some hats that have tea bags dangling from them and send out flyers. Well, you really think that someone sent those people out there? You don't think that there was a lot of people that just joined in?

No, there certainly were. So you think that it was orchestrated? I think aspects of it were orchestrated. Really? I think there's documented proof of people doing that. I mean, they already have agent provocateurs. Of course. That Citibank thing where those guys got arrested,

the 40 people that were in a Citibank trying to close their bank accounts. Now, they were being assholes. were they were being dicks they had their cardboard signs inside a city bank they were disruptive and they're shouting they were being disruptive yeah they weren't just just canceling their bank account the guy who was the loudest there one of the guys who was the loudest from videos that i've seen was an undercover cop so he was he was right in there yeah it's out there so one of the one of the ladies who went in there she did protest she did say her speech then she politely, after they told her to quiet down. And this is, again, I can only cobble together so many stories, but this is what I've observed over a few articles.

She quietly calmed down. She closed her bank account. She was outside. They locked everybody in because the police said, well, if they're a disrupting business, hold them there. Which I don't, even for being an asshole, I don't think you can legally detain somebody like that without the cops being there. Dude came outside. She said, I'm a customer, showing him the Citibank bank receipts and stuff. She said, I'm supposed to be in there.

I'm trying to cancel my account. He's like, you were one of the protesters. Grabs her, bear hold style, and drags her back inside the Citibank to be processed. Wow. Well, Citibank, this is hilarious. The Citibank protesters are saying that the undercover cops set them up. You know. Thought it was a setup.

So the one thing this movement has going for it, which has me remaining so hopeful, is that they are so fucking connected. Like, that's what makes it great because the second bullshit happens, it's like, listen, yeah, that's one story. But here's 40 other angles of that event, start to finish. You look at what happened. And they showed a commercial right now. There's an attack commercial against the movement that has some crazy guy who's known for being a crazy YouTube guy spouting anti-Semitic remarks at people left and right. And there's one guy and there's another dude that has a sign that was anti-Semitic. And they cut back and forth between this guy for like three minutes.

You know, this guy with the sign, the guy with that, and there's video of people at that protest shaming them, telling them to get the fuck out of here. This doesn't belong here. So you see one message, and you go,

crazy anti-Semitism, there you go. I get why people believe that. That's the message they see. But this movement is so connected that there's a chance that you could see 40 other perspectives on an event and truly Make it up for you. Well, I can truly decide this Citibank arrest now that we're talking about this

And now that I'm going that you told me this and I'm going online and we'll tweet this stuff, too People are getting a chance to do you want one of those men is cold ones in there? Yeah open open the top Then the bottom their bottom shelf there. There you go, fella. Get one for everybody. Yeah, sure. Thanks. This is why they're saying that they know that the guy was an undercover cop. It's because he fucking arrested one of them once they got outside.

Oh my god. The fucking guy he wasn't just an undercover cop. He was mocking them and laughing about it. He arrested one of the protesters outside, slammed her into a wall, and pushed her back into the bank. There's video of that. He was at the precinct while they were all getting arrested and he was laughing with fellow white shirt cops telling them about what we'd been saying basically. It was a bit startling how inside their information was, how they were being paid

to go to these protests and put us in situations where we'd be arrested and not able to leave not be able to leave that's amazing it's not it's not the only incident by a long shot that's crazy but who is in charge of this if this guy's an undercover cop right and where is this Citibank branch what part of the country was this I don't recall oh that sucks I would like to know is Is it not there on the article? Oh, New York. It's New York. Well, there you go.

So you know who's behind it. Washington Square Park police. Wow. They set this woman up. This is disgusting. It's not the only incident whatsoever. This is disgusting that this should be fraud. We should be able to sue them for fraud.

Yeah, I hope they can. should be fraud we should be able to sue them for fraud yeah i hope they can misrepresenting our our tax dollars and misrepresenting your position to protect us you are leading someone into an illegal event and and then you're the one who's screaming shit out and citing them did you know about kettling the process the procedure of kettling what's that it's what the cops they have a term for it it's for cutting off large sections of a crowd for arrest during a protest. So that Brooklyn Bridge arrest, there's a lot of views that depending upon how you want to interpret the video that you're watching, those guys were kettled. So it means like they create a pot. In this case, it was the Brooklyn Bridge, right? They cut off one end of the Brooklyn Bridge. Then they told protesters,

hey, you know, no foot traffic allowed on the bridge into a megaphone, which if you've ever been to a rally, the first three people can hear that megaphone. No one else fucking can. No one else can. So they have one officer in the very front. You guys can't be here. Guys can't be here. Guys can't be here.

No foot traffic. Puts it away. All right, everybody. He turns around, and many of the protesters felt that there was a line of police officers walking down the street, leading them onto the Brooklyn Bridge, like across it. And protesters thought they had a minor victory. They were like, fuck yeah, Brooklyn Bridge, we got this shit. The cops get about halfway in.

They cut them off. They put the lid on the kettle. And they cut off this large group of protesters on the bridge and arrested them all. Wow. It's like leading the marching band. They arrested like 700 people. Yeah, that got a lot. Yeah.

It's cowboys. Yeah. It really is. They were just hurting protesters. Yeah, hurting protesters. lot. It's cowboys. It really is. They were just hurting protesters. Yeah, hurting protesters. Well, you know what, man? But it sucks. This movement isn't anti-cop whatsoever.

And it sucks that it's unfortunately only the bad and salacious stuff gets the news coverage. Well, that's important, though, because people need to know what can happen. Of course. We need to know about this. This Citibank thing is fucking disgusting. This is really gross. If somebody just feels like Citibank's a shit organization, they just want to go in there and cancel their thing and maybe say,

Citibank, I disagree with everything you're doing and I want my money back. Good, fine, leave. So search the one that happened today with Bank of America. Because a woman goes into a Bank of America, she had a sign, and there's a video of this whole thing. Again, I think don't preach, don't make a ruckus, don't try to be the YouTube splash. But then again, here we are talking about it.

So I guess it worked. Is this today you're saying? I think it was today. There's something from October 11th where a bunch of women were arrested inside a Bank of America for returning trash from foreclosed homes. No, no, no, no. I think it was from today. It was two women. One has a sign.

She says, I'm against you guys. I'm closing my account. She immediately goes in and like a branch manager comes over to her and says, you can't be here. You need to leave. She's like, what are you talking about? You need to get out of here. I'm calling the cops. She's like, listen, I'm not, I'm just here to close my account. You can't, you're a protester. I'm calling the cops. Why? What? I haven't done anything. And she's like, I'll put the sign away. I'll put the sign away. No calling the cops. And it gets to the point where she actually delivers a line you cannot be a protester and a customer at the same time whoa kick them out lock the doors oh they just kicked them out yeah well i mean the the cops wouldn't do anything i mean come on man like yeah but you can't be a protester i know but you didn't they didn't arrest them i don't know i mean what

do you want to do you want to be able to go to a place where you work and have a bunch of people stand around yelling that what you're doing is bad or protesting inside your job? No, but again, you have to watch the video because they – What were they doing? She sat down with her sign and was waiting to close the account. Again, I still think it's dickish to go and make noise and shout at some poor district manager that she's the 1% because she's not. She's just doing her job too. Well, I think banks are like airplanes though. You really have to watch what you do inside of a bank, especially if you have a sign.

You don't know if that person has a bomb connected underneath their coat. You know what I mean? It's a little different. I feel weird wearing an open shirt in a bank. Somebody had a good point about Occupy Wall Street and they said all we need is one or two bounce checks and the cops are with us. Yeah or two bounce checks, and the cops are with us. Yeah. And that's so true, because cops are with us.

The cops are not fucking bankers. But did you see the nice time release? The idea that you can get the cops to act as protectors for these cocksuckers is really dark. It's really dark when you think about it, that it could even be steered in that direction don't you think it's already happening though in what way i mean they were this one city bank thing yes i do but i mean they're like the the police actions in new york from checking ids to make sure you're allowed to walk on certain streets you had to have a wall street id and of an id that matched one of the addresses that you work there well don't you think that probably has something to do with terror attacks as well i mean they didn't do it before these protests right but i mean don't you think that probably has something to do with terror attacks as well? They didn't do it

before these protests. Right, but I mean, don't you think they're worried possibly that someone's going to sneak through? I mean, if there's so much fucking people

and so much attention in a certain area, I don't think it just... That's a slippery slope, though, dude. It is a slippery slope, First of all, this protest hasn't been violent. Security.

This protest hasn't been violent. There have been outbursts, you know, but they haven't... I mean, like the officer Tony Bologna that pepper sprayed those women that were in the net i don't know if you saw that video yeah i did like that guy lost 10 vacation days that's it that was his punishment really that's it yeah it happened yesterday he lost 10 vacation days for pepper

spraying and he's still a cop three women oh still a cop doesn't get demoted nothing you know he had also uh some sort of uh into some sort of situation in 2004 where he abused somebody. He punched somebody, I think. But real quick, to finish that point, though, you've got guys like that out there. You want those guys checking your ID to make sure you work at a building, and it's like, well, you go, yeah, it's for safety. But we've given up so many freedoms in the name of safety. And this is just further erosion of that. I agree with you.

But just plain devil's advocate, what if you don't work for uh anybody who's doing anything evil and you work on fucking wall street and you can't get anywhere near your job because there's a million hippies out there beating drums banging for the banks to close and you don't even support the fucking banks be like i hear you but i gotta get over there because that's where i work and they're like you fucking one percenter you fucking piece of shit's pressing the people and you know meanwhile it's the person who works there i don who works there. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Are there legit businesses? I hope that's not the attitude of the protesters.

I hope that they, and that's why I was troubled to see that woman called the branch manager, like, oh, you're the 1%. I'm like, again, this is just a motherfucker trying to do their job. Yeah. I marched in the LA rally that they had. I was like, let's see this thing. If I'm going to put my weight behind this at all, or I try not to get too political at times.

And I was like, if I'm going to be outspoken about this shit I need to go down there I need to see what it's like and I'm shocked at how many people have framed complex opinions about it and yet haven't gone down yeah to actually see one and when I was there the cross-section of society that I ran into I feared didn't exist anymore truly amazing people there's incredible people that for every avatar dressed up head to toe blue hippie that's banging a bongo drum

there were three people there of all ages all races that like understood that shit is fucked up in this country and was trying to be

positive about it you know and trying to elicit change and so it was a really nice feeling but I feel like there were clear demands

and there was a you know a good purpose to it then now it's been a little co-opted how long ago was this? that I went out there were clear demands and there was a good purpose to it then. Now it's being a little co-opted. How long ago was this? That I went out there? Yeah. Probably a week or two ago.

So you think it's being co-opted by nefarious forces that are working undercover to try to sabotage things? Yeah, I think so. Like the Citibank thing? I think so, yeah. Really? And what are they doing? They do that to every movement. I mean, from the attack ads to marginalizing the message to entrapment.

It's costing them a lot of money. I mean, I think it was New York or something like that. Like, they were going to go bankrupt from this, you know. So Bloomberg, cough up the cash. This is where it got billions. Right. You want to keep that mayor job, fuckface? While this was going on, I believe it was JPMorgan Chase announced their huge grant to NYPD of like $4.6 million or something like that.

It might have been billion dollars. I'm not even joking. It's probably a million. You should Google it. But it's literally like as this is going on and the cops are there protecting Wall Street and pepper spraying civilians who are protesting it, JPMorgan is making multi-million dollar donations to the NYPD.

No way. Who are they going to serve and protect, man? Right. So yeah, they might be one or two pensions away, but guess what? They're not going to lose NYPD. No way. Who are they going to serve and protect, man? Right. So yeah, they might be one or two pensions away, but guess what? They're not going to lose their pension. Politicians don't fuck with the cops because they know they need them there

to protect them and protect the bankers. That is dark. That's why it was inspiring to watch that Marine. There was a fucking Marine colonel that was on the street. And you want to talk about pit bulls, Joe? Yeah, I saw that guy. That motherfucker was inspiring.

And people were like, he only said three words. I'm like, it took him three words. It was like, there's no honor in this, which is several more words than that. But it took only that from that dude wearing that uniform with that intensity to shut those cops down.

Those cops couldn't say shit. They couldn't say shit. They kept pointing to his medals and shit. What do you guys do when you're on horses trampling fucking innocent protesters. Yeah, you're supposed to protect these people. Yeah, this isn't a war zone. These people don't have guns.

Yeah, why are you hurting these people? There's no honor in this. There's no honor in this. That's all it took from that fucking guy. JPMorgan Chase donates $4.6 million to NYPD during the protests. During the protests. That's so beautiful. That's amazing.

It's amazing. It's fucking That's amazing. It's amazing. It's fucking transparent as sin. It's gross. This is something that would have happened a long time ago and we would have never heard about it. But look at the site that that announcement is on. That's on their official website. It's not like they tried to hide this.

It's not like somebody had to go digging up some file to find some back alley deal. They were like, hey world, we just donated 4.6 million to the nypd that's how good we are as people wow yeah how gross and then the cops are acting as if that 4.6 million is worth more than whatever these fucking regular people pay out of their paychecks every goddamn week and a percentage of that for sure has to go to public service. The people that are in your community, man.

The people that are fed up and you are just going to bend over and take it up the coulee for 4.6 from some fucking bankers. That's amazing.

For an Adam Sandler movie. How much does a movie cost? Adam Sandler movies a lot more than 4.6 million. Well, that's what they gross but they're... Yeah, that's what I meant. Adam Sandler movies a lot more than 4.6 million well that's what they gross but they're yeah that's what I meant Adam Sandler makes

a lot of fucking money you might not like his movies but no I love Adam Sandler movies that was a total joke I love Adam Sandler if that guy made

4.6 million dollars for a movie he would cry that would be a terrible weekend so oh fuck what was

talking about J.P. Morgan how to announce this right in the middle of it this is terrifying. So yeah, so here's one thing I'm going to attempt to do. I'm going to try to raise some money to do an app to help facilitate protesters right now. Really?

And how's that work? I got a couple ideas. I mean, I think right now, I'd love to see geolocation mixed media chat rooms that you can join. Password protected, anonymous, whatever. You'll log into the room. Maybe I'll create Occupy LA and people go in there.

Now we have a mixed media shared space with like IRC style moderation, meaning whoever creates that room can anoint. If I create a room, I can give you permission and you permission to post directly to it. Everybody else chats in a separate area of the app, but allow people to push button quick voice message chat so you can quickly communicate in a crowd. Like, hey, the cops are coming. Everybody fucking sit down. Send them off good idea man hey they're they're

kettling us in pull up the google maps drop a pin on it send that out to the group so they can be like all right here's our new rally point and get there all in names of keeping it peaceful and organized if anybody takes a photo or tries to live stream from within the app it would be geotagged and hashtagged automatically because you're in that group so when it goes up to the web now like right now i'm trying to follow the protests and they go cops are beating a dude in a wheelchair in uh sacramento they weren't they were just arresting a kid in a wheelchair so it's okay um and he was just there after curfew i had to track down four twitter accounts to find where that was happening click on the protest go to the live stream one live stream went down i'm like it's it's inefficient if everybody organized through one channel all their media you could pull up a map in real time of all the shit

that's going down the world click on a bubble and view it back like a timeline wow and see when the room started what people were saying what keywords were popping what media was happening where the videos were you could piece up angles based off time stamps and the idea is you could really you would have the most honest slice of an event and history that's going on it'd be i think it'd be amazing it would help people on the ground really organize and be safe you know safer that's a great idea they're there on kickstarter quick so i want to do it on kickstarter if someone hasn't stolen the idea already i want to do it i've already started out i'm pricing what do you call it we gather how about fuck the police yeah coming down from the underground no because it'll never get it'll never get funding as, I think I had it like iRiot.

Fudge the police. iRiot? Ooh, I like that. iRiot. I had a bunch of like angry, aggressive names, but the way to really sell it is to say, well, not only can this be used to help facilitate marches, but if a group of 10 is going to Disneyland, they can all create a group amongst their friends and share their media that way. Yeah, that's how you should market it entirely.

So what are you going to call it? iGather? Yeah, WeGather. WeGather. You know, like it's a social app. I like it. Someone just took the.com and the logo and everything else so good luck how dare you i just wanted to get i want the idea out there i was gonna sell the i was not gonna

sell yeah don't steal it no i mean i hope if someone can help me make that please why don't you register tonight i could yeah do it i got it spec'd up i know how much it's gonna cost so i think i'm just gonna go out there and do it it sounds brilliant thanks sounds like a brilliant idea i agree i think it'd be cool and it really wouldn't be great for disneyland too it would and if you're at like a fucking coachella let me join the coachella room with my friends and then we can keep our room private but promote media up so we can go to the public room say you go to the kentucky derby and you get lost you were a group of friends right or you're just at a cockfight you want to know where your friends are you want

to know who's who's roosters on top that's's it. We gather. Yeah, that's a great idea, dude. I like that a lot. You're like a revolutionary. Look at you. Well, dude, how revolutionary would that image be? Because right now the crowds, half of the violence and the confusion comes from panic. The panic is coming from a lack of communication. When you see those people chanting back what people are saying in a park, people think

they're crazy and it's like a cult. It's like, actually, no, they don't allow amplification devices. Right. So people were just like, we'll loudly repeat everything else that's happening right but you get enough people running a we gather style app pop in one earbud you can still hear what's going on around you you'll know exactly who's connected and who's in that room by the side of the earbud and by glancing down at your phone and just fucking push to talk man jamie kilstein made a tweet and this tweet will forever in my mind embody what is going on here he he made this

tweet he was down at occupy wall street he was talking about how fucking crazy it is he wrote they just arrested a guy because they thought he was the leader period there are no leaders occupy wall street you know the hashtag and like, wow, like what a crazy movement that must be for people where there's not one guy on a podium with a microphone. It's true. Truly democratic movement

right now. And growing. Truly democratic. And growing. And how the fuck do you silence that? But then you got, because then you got guys

like MoveOn, there's a petition on MoveOn site to have them to stop supporting Occupy Wall Street. They're seen as a radical leftist group and very political

and they have their own ties to corporations, et cetera, et cetera, depending upon who you ask. So right now, you can't have anybody from a group like that, Republican, Democrat, I don't give a shit. You cannot have groups with strong political ties funding your movement

and gathering interest for your movement. You can't do that because that will be used as fodder to shut it down immediately. Well, this is the beautiful thing about this all. There is no political party here. There's no political party involved in any of this. There's Republicans out there and Libertarians out there.

But I think a lot of Republicans don't think there are Republicans out there. That's a message that I run into a lot. A lot of Republicans are so goddamn brainwashed, they don't even know what a Republican is. A lot of Republicans would tell people that I would register to be a Republican if I really thought that Ron Paul had a chance, or that Gary Johnson had a chance. What a real Republican is supposed to be about is supposed to be about small business and saying the fuck out of people's personal lives. That's Ron Paul. Yeah.

A real Republican, by the way, wouldn't give a shit if you got married if you were gay. A real Republican wouldn't give a shit about what religion you want to practice. Right. Your business, as long as the government doesn't tell me if it's okay, your business. A constitutional Republican would never be wanting to intersect

religion in with politics. What's gone on in this country is people, like always, lump themselves into fucking teams. Whether it's Windows versus Mac. Which is why we can't, you know, which is why they can't allow a certain group that represents a certain team or a certain color or fucking animal glom onto their message, and they're going to have to communicate better to do that.

This is the big question about this Occupy Wall Street thing, is that it's already gotten way past a boiling point, and it's gotten to a point where if the economy doesn't improve and these people don't have to go back to work, well, what the fuck is going to stop them from escalating? What the fuck is going to stop this from getting bigger and bigger? I love when people go,

get a job, you hippie. Get a fucking job. It's like, create one for me. What are you talking about? Create one for me and I'll take it. That's why I'm out here, asshole. Everybody that says

get a job today is an asshole. Yeah. What? Get a job today. It's going to be interesting to see what happens come winter it's 10 unemployment and that's just for people who are fucking registering for unemployment the people that aren't you know that's why those numbers are screwy man when they say the country's

nine percent or ten percent or what it is that's just people that are like registering for unemployment right how many people are not eligible for unemployment and they're still unemployed how many people have used up their unemployment and they're still unemployed? How many people have used up their unemployment and they're still unemployed? Well, it's because they're playing World of Warcraft. It's because they have no drive. It's because they're alcoholics. It's because they're, let's paint whatever negative picture we can on the fact that some people get down on their luck sometimes. That's what Herman Cain thinks, right?

Yeah. Herman Cain is, it's your bad. It's your ass bleeding. It's not because I raped you. It's because you didn't resist it hard enough. He's wrong, but isn't he right too? He's absolutely wrong. And there's certainly people in certain situations.

For sure, people get a shit roll of the dice, man. I've seen it. We've all seen it. And some people are just fucking lazy and want to suck off the teat. And a lot of individual greed led to the situations that we have right now. It's so multifaceted. He's right and he's wrong off the teat. And a lot of individual greed led to the situations that we have right now. It's so multifaceted. He's right and he's wrong. Right, exactly.

What I was going to say is that his point is it's very simple and generalized. But the reality is many a person has gone from intense poverty to immense wealth. And they've done it

by bulldog determination. Yeah, but they did it when the game wasn't rigged. I don't know about that. I think people are doing that right now. Even while the game is rigged. It's so much harder, though. Oh, it by bulldog determination. Yeah, but they did it when the game wasn't rigged. I don't know about that. I think people are doing that right now. Even while the game is rigged. It's so much harder, though. Oh, it is, most certainly.

It's so much harder. What do you think has changed as far as the game being rigged? Interest rates are much higher for credit cards and it's harder to get a loan for businesses or to buy a house. And the jobs that you can get. But how else is it rigged? I think the jobs that you can get right now, I mean, the dollar is being so manipulated, I think.

Okay, first of all, to get something big going, you want to get Bill Gates money, you want to get that kind of money, you want to be a baller, you got to make your own shit. You got to make your own shit. You got to be your own boss, for sure. You got to create your own thing, your own business, your own boss. So do whatever the fuck you got to do. But it's got to be your own thing. That's the only way you make monumental kind of money and so you know what

here broadband sucks in this country and cellular sucks so i'm going to start my own my own carrier throughout i'm going to make it awesome but the game is rigged against me i can't do it throughout history people have figured out a way people have figured out a way in the darkest times to make shit piles of money so he's wrong in in generalizing right there but he's also right it is possible it's just most people aren't willing to do the work to create the possible. You have to become like a madman to become super-uper successful in the middle of a fucking down economy. But you can do it. But there is no middle class anymore.

Yes, I think it does take that drive. I think you said like Steve Jobs ran himself at 11,000 RPM every day and just burnt himself out. It does take that to be at his level. But these aren't people in Times Square. I'm getting back to the movement. I don't think these are people that want to be Steve Jobs necessarily. They just want jobs.

They'll take a job. They want a modest house in a modest neighborhood. You used to be able to get that for working hard. You don't think that's possible anymore? For some people, I don't think it is. Like if you're born in... Impossible. Is that a real...

Is that possible that something could be impossible? I don't think anything's impossible. if you're born in – Impossible. Is that a real – is that possible that something could be impossible? I don't think anything is impossible. Absolutely not. But should we hang our hats on the one person? No, but if it's 85% – let's say the unemployment – the legit unemployment number is 15%. It's probably worse than that. But let's say it's 15% nationwide. That still means 85% of the people are working.

And if 85% of the people are working, why can't you work? Is there a way to get through? You know what I'm saying? I mean I'm not saying? You can't really say there is no middle class. For sure, the situation is fucked up. For sure, we're in a terrible financial situation where we've realized that we've been scammed all these years and essentially defrauded and lied to. And we have a Congress that's bought and paid for. It's pretty obvious. No one's prosecuting any of these fucks, yet they're going after pot dispensaries. I mean, what's going on is shameful. In 2011, with the internet, with the access to information that we have, that the government conducts its business this way is absolutely, completely shameful.

Right. But some people are still doing okay. Some people are still getting through. I'm one of those people. I'm doing all right. I made some opportunities myself. I've been working my ass off since I was 12 years old. I mean, I think it's possible.

But again, I'm not saying there isn't a middle class. There clearly still is. But it is shrinking exponentially. B of A just offloaded a bunch of fucking bad assets to a branch of their arm that's FDIC-insured here in the States that were European assets. They did this thing that's not supposed to be legal, swiped over a bunch of their arm that's FDIC insured here in the states that were European assets. They did this thing that's not supposed to be legal, swiped over a bunch of stuff, so if the euro fails, if there's a financial crisis there,

the American taxpayers could end up bailing out the European banks by transferring their assets. I mean, it's, so again, I'm doing alright right now. Fuck Bank of America too. But, like, who's that one guy that just donated a shitload of money to Bank of America? Like but like who's that that one guy that just donated a shitload of money to bank of america like some uh singer or something like that just donated a shitload of money to bank of america or to bank of america not a singer there's some celebrity guy here i'll find

out yeah find out i've never heard of anybody donating money to a bank that's crazy with all the connectivity that we have in this day and age just as you're saying it's crazy that the government has run the way it is right right? When I go to pay taxes... That's what this protest is all about. Yeah, I think so. People are awake. But so, you know, this is a pipe dream.

But why not, you know, I pay my taxes online. I pay a lot of taxes online. Right. And they trust it enough to be verified and it's my social security number and blah, blah, blah. And there's the amount that I'm paying

and the government takes it, state and federal. Right. If I can pay my taxes online, we can do a system that does that, why can't I pay my taxes and then apportion those taxes directly to the funds and the projects

and the things that I want? Let me vote truly democratically with my dollars. Now, if we have to set minimum levels, you know, for defense spending or, you know... Well, you're talking crazy now. Why? Because, first of all, this isn't a democracy. But why not? Dream big.

It's a representative republic, right? Yeah. That's what we are. Right. We're represented by a handful of people that the corporations own. You don't even get to know where your money goes. They don't even have to give you a receipt. So how great would that be if I could decide where it's going to go?

How gross is that, by the way, that you pay, like, you're probably in like a 38% tax bracket or something, right? You're doing really well. One year when I wasn't incorporated, like now like i work for myself as a corporation right but the last year that i wasn't i paid 43 or 47 percent of my income to taxes nutty is that think let's just round that bitch off to half you're paying half of your money half of it you don't even get a statement that says, you helped fix a road. You helped pay for cops. You helped support firefighters. You don't even get a fucking receipt.

They don't have to tell you shit. Nope. Warren Buffett. Oh, Warren Buffett donated to Bank of America? To help Bank of America, I think he bought a bunch of stocks. He bought $357 million?

Is that what it says? In stocks? No, invests $5 billion in Bank of America. Oh, well, that's not donating, a bunch of stocks up you bought 357 million in stock no invest is 5 billion in Bank of America oh well that's not donating buddy no no but he did it to to help them that's what his reason was I'm sure was purely altruistic please he's also old as fuck and doesn't give a shit yeah he's a weird cat that guy lives in like a regular house you know he's a super super super rich guy he lives in like middle America lives in a regular house. He's a super, super, super rich guy. He lives in middle America. Lives in a regular house.

Really? Yeah, yeah. Does not live extravagantly by any means. And he has apparently donated a substantial portion of his riches to charities when he dies. Good for him. Yeah, good for him. Yeah, he's an interesting cat, that Warren Buffett. I like that.

I've heard him vilified several times, so it's nice to hear that side of it. Well, he probably feels bad for all the creepy shit that he did to get $100 fucking billion or whatever he's got stashed under his mattress. He just worked hard, Joe. Anybody can do it. It's not impossible. You were talking about videos that disturbed you in that video of the dogs getting killed earlier. There's something that disturbed me way more, and I couldn't even watch it. I just heard about it. It was a baby getting run over in China. The baby got run over back and forth like a bunch of times.

People stepped over the body of the baby. There's a video of them stepping over it and nobody did a god damn thing about it. It was a two year old baby just wandering around. Run over by a truck. The truck sees it, it ran over it, doesn't do anything about it, gets back in the car, runs over it again with its back wheels. Oh, with the back wheels? Yeah. And then another person runs over it. I's we as human beings man you know we have to look at what are we like at our worst what do we like at the at the most callous and unloving that's got to be an example that right up there with war you know that's you got to at least leave

a note like sorry i hit your baby here's my license plate i'm insured you got to at least do that because that's fucked up well i don't know whose fucking baby was just wandering around the streets first of all you know where there was no one that did anything about it they didn't even You got to at least do that because that's fucked up. Well, I don't know whose fucking baby was just wandering around the streets. First of all, there was no one that did anything about it. They didn't even know the baby was run over. There was no screaming. There was no, oh my God, where's my baby? Just when population density gets to a certain number and the value of life diminishes because

it's just too many goddamn humans and literally not enough food for people. So instead of someone being valuable, you're actually a hindrance. Everybody's a hindrance. Right. You're a resource drain. I'm sorry, but that's what you are at times. And thankfully, Siri is going to figure out how to turn us all into batteries. And the Matrix is going to fucking happen, guys.

Siri is going to figure that shit out. Well, if it's not that, it may be aliens. One of the things I've always said about aliens, people think I have several friends that are obsessed with aliens. Eddie Bravo being the biggest one. He fucking loves UFOs. Loves the idea that they're out there, man. It's so exciting for him.

It's so sexy for him. Me, I'm not so convinced. I look around at all the goddamn video footage that people have on their cell phones, and then I see the video footage of UFOs, and I'm like, this is horseshit. These are fake. They just smell to me. They all stink. Nothing seems real. have on their cell phones and then I see the video footage of UFOs and I'm like, this is horseshit. These are fake. They just smell to me. They all stink.

Nothing seems real. There's not a single fucking video of anyone spotting a little gray man running around their backyard. And that doesn't mean it's not real. It doesn't mean that if they were here they couldn't avoid detection, but I don't believe it. And my other take on it is that if they did exist, we probably wouldn't want them here. Because guess what?

They're not going to just let us run things as usual and give us more information so we can blow each other up quicker. No, they're going to treat us the same way we treat dolphins and whales. We don't give a fuck about them. We kill whales every day. Not we, not you and I, obviously, but people in this world kill whales every day. We take dolphins, we Americans do, and I, obviously, but people in this world kill whales every day. We take dolphins. We Americans do.

And we lock them in fish tanks. We take these amazing animals and we put them in a fucking swimming pool. And we don't give a shit about them. We really don't. When they say an animal escaped from a zoo, it's like that's because you put it in a prison. It escaped. It went home, you asshole. It got free of your fucking jail.

It didn't escape. You locked this guy up for nothing. But why would we think that anything more intelligent than us would treat us any differently than we treat the most intelligent things that we're aware of? Chimpanzees and dolphins and orcas are the most intelligent things that we're aware of. We just lock them up.

We don't give a fuck, man. We experiment on them. We put them in cages. We teach them how to do tricks for our amusement you know why the fuck would we think that aliens would do anything different if we steal their babies man chimpanzees dolphins orcas we steal their fucking babies what if we are a zoo for the aliens we very well could be man you know very well what if they are just walking around right now invisible can you believe they're doing that shit right Right. Oh, my God. Well, let's make this guy do that and see what happens.

Oh, my God. Well, if you think about, you know, what we're capable of right now, you ever go to the wild animal park in San Diego? Yeah. It's fucking amazing, right? Huge, huge place. You drive around there. I mean, these animals have habitat, dude.

Did you ever feed the giraffes? I actually never went there, but that's where Cliffy B is getting married. Oh, is he really? Yeah. Powerful. Like, on a giraffe or he somehow got set up yeah he's gonna get he's a crafty dude that sounds like something to do it's um it's an amazing setup they have a lot of room these animals are it's not ideal but they have a lot of room so just extrapolate that take that to uh 100 million years of evolution or whatever the fuck you know who knows how long life can exist on certain planets. And they could be so fucking sophisticated.

They could have not just created a planet, but engineered our whole environment. Right. Well, let's see what happens here. It's truly Sim Earth. The same way we do it with ants in video games are now people in The Sims. What if they just,

let's see how this one turns out. Can you imagine if the whole idea of asteroidal impacts and you know a mass extinction events was actually a programmed cycle that we're just not aware of it we we we just are still assuming that there's sort of a random nature to all these uh rocks out there colliding but really they just happen every certain amount of millions of years just some sort of a global reset that just keeps going on. Getting defragged. Yeah, until your civilization becomes so intelligent that it can spot it and prevent it.

That's the mad race. That's like the test. Yeah, the mad race is to get off the planet in some sort of an artificial environment that you control, be it a large spaceship or a giant artificial planet, and to avoid all the cosmic impacts, solar flares,

all the really big shit that happens, supernovas. When hypernovas happen, everything anywhere near it in the galaxy just gets cooked instantly. And that shit can happen to us. That's why I hate that I wasn't fucking alive for the space race. I'm serious really yeah

i mean the notion of it and it might be uh like a nostalgia that i've absorbed not as much it's more about who can fire lasers from satellites now it's not about like let's explore and i know that was the bill of goods that we were sold i'm sure it had a lot to do with defense testing and everything else but you know if all the money that we did and i know this is this is just me wishing we could vote with our tax dollars again but but if a fraction of the money we've spent blowing shit up in some other fucking country was spent to just solving something, like a problem for humanity here. Oh, no doubt. We could be leaders again. We could be positively revered, and we could fucking help the world.

Yeah, well, not even just that. I'm going to sing that in'm gonna sing that curiosity of people the curiosity of expression of you know just traveling the fucking universe and finding out what what it is like on mars you know have you have humans set up some sort of a a civilization on mars where they you know they what is that called where they you take a total recall no way you take a an environment and you uh you sort of engineer it to a geo Geoforming? Yeah, geoforming. Yeah, when you recreate it. We need more ozone, all right?

Let's do that. We need some water here. Let's ship that in. Let's terraform on this level. You create an environment. They said that you could do this, that you could take machines, and you could build them on Mars,

massive, massive machines, like literally the size of cities. It would be like a Manhattan-sized machine, and that machine would just be pumping oxygen into the environment and that somehow or another would... It's called the reactor

and Quaid starts it with his alien hand. Oh. Did you not see Total Recall? I did see that. Is that what it was in Total Recall? Yeah,

start the reactor. He pushes the reactor and the rods go in and the fucking oxygen on the planet. Oh, that's right. And it stops Arnold's head

from freaking out when he's on the side of the mountain. His eyes are bugging out. That's some Oh, that's right. And it stops Arnold's head from freaking out when he's on the side of the mountain. His eyes are bugging out. That's some stupid movie is actually based on real scientific ideas. The three boob thing.

I would definitely... The three boob thing. You know, there's a lot of three boob on the line. You can get an implant in the third one. No one's ever done it.

You know, when girls have three nipples. I've never heard of a girl really having three nipples. Oh, you've never seen one? Yeah, I know a couple people. I know guys and girls that have three nipples. Really? Yeah. Are they like next to each I know a couple people. I know guys and girls that have three nipples.

Really? Yeah. Are they like next to each other? It's creepy because it's just like the nipple part. It's not the areola. Oh, wow. So it's just like this weird nipple. I guess out of all freak show genetic mishaps you can have, that ain't that bad.

To have an extra nipple? I got an extra nipple. Who's going to complain? Extra testicle wouldn't be that bad either. Yeah. Maybe. What if your loads are just overwhelming? Some guys want that.

Yeah, maybe it was too much. I saw a product at GNC called Max Load next to the checkout counter. GNC. GNC on the counter. I took a photo of it. It made me laugh so hard. I tweeted it, and it said, come harder, come longer, come better. It was like three hits, and it was like fucking Max Load.

GNC. On the counter. At the checkout counter, where a take a penny, leave a penny should be. It was like, hits and it was like you know fucking max low or whatever yeah on the on the counter but the checkout counter like where a take a penny leave a penny should be it was like dudes come harder that's that was on the counter at the gnc that's amazing what a crazy world and it fucking did not work that is internet work didn't work at all i fucking came pixie dust for like a week that's a little girl it was just glitter and wishes it tastes different no no citrusy do you think that's the internet that's got people so desensitized you could have cum pills there's fetish porn now

where they're using fake dicks and pumping gallons of fake semen out of them I've seen that to splash all over people so stupid and they're doing like drive-by cum shots

and like splattering girls that are just walking down the sidewalk that's actually pretty funny that'd be hilarious if that's how the gang settled their warfare with drive-by cum shots

that's actually pretty funny it'd be brilliant well what are they gonna do when CGI gets to a point where everybody can afford it including you know porn companies right it'll be real time have like you know japanese uh what is that called that that hentai yeah where the tentacles look real they'll have real they'll have that but in realistic human form they're so close dude they're so close oh yeah women will just get i think it's going to be procedurally generated, dude.

You're going to be able to go to a website and through series and knobs, select exactly the kind of woman you want, fucking slide her her tits, choose her height, the hair color, select the scenes and positions, and hit play. And that shit is going to auto-generate, and it's going to destroy humanity. What will happen first, holograms or virtual reality that's super realistic? Well, it depends on your definition of super realistic. For me, virtual reality isn't true virtual reality unless the shit is being into my brain,

unless it's being beamed into it or electrified into it. I don't care if it's through a helmet or a glove. But until my brain is being tricked to imagine ones and zeros, I'm not going to call VR VR. Do you think it's impossible to do that without some sort of an electronic aid? Or do you think that they'll be able to figure out? I at one point in time i don't know about the science behind this because this is all just out of my imagination but that there may be a frequency that they can

tune into that the human mind can tune into for whatever reason right and they may be able to find a frequency that you could tune into where when you put yourself in a relaxed state it can generate thoughts you know what i think i just had a bizarre thought about that. I was like, no, what they'll do is they'll engineer it. Because the transhumanism thing, they'll create a chip first that allows you to perceive that, but you'll still need power to generate it. But then we'll get so good with fucking manipulating molecules in DNA,

we'll create the cell that will be put into something virus-style that gives people perception to that. So imagine like a chip for Bluetooth or Wi-Fi. We're going to engineer that on a biochemical level so that you can now perceive this thing so you and i can communicate telepathically this device can beam the images into me wow why not right why not right yeah like but but like yeah but a viral fucking you know or yeah bluetooth chip but bluetooth kind of sucks if they're talking bluetooth 7.0 if they're talking about genetic engineering and they're always talking about the possibility of nanobots

to go in and cure cancer, what about the idea of artificial cells? What was it that they just discovered recently? They created something that reproduced itself in a lab for the first time. Yeah. I saw something like that. I forget what it was. Some structure, some small structure, an atom or whatever it was that reproduced itself what if they can create

artificial cells they inject this artificial cell into you and slowly but surely over the course of you know however long long it takes to regenerate inside all of your tissue you become like a superhuman i absolutely see that happening and i think outside the realm of possibility no no and what concerns me is the potential we think we're having class war now class warfare now imagine the have and have-nots in that day and age oh my god when it's like it's pure gattaca shit of like well hey i was born with it because i got upgraded right and you know i can perceive this shit that you can't and manipulate and manipulate you with my mind so sorry you're just a thing.

We're going to enslave ourselves before the aliens do. I don't see any escape from the technological singularity. Do you? Do you see any? I mean, I don't see any escape from artificial intelligence. I worry that stunted minds will not allow us to evolve to that point, to get to that point. I don't think those stunted minds have a fucking chance. I think it'll be on them before they even know what hit them.

I think no one is stopping the onset of artificial intelligence. No one is putting the brakes to it. Everybody's worrying about weapons. Everybody's worrying about these threats from terrorists and all these different things. What about a sentient, super intelligent computer that can do things? I think we're so on the path to that. So on the path to that. We're absolutely on the path to it but we don't know you know it may look at us and just go you're molecules um exactly i could use you more efficiently thanks exactly we don't know if it's going to be that

way we don't know if whoever gets it first whether it's the u.s or the chinese they're going to put a hook in it that allows them to use it for whatever they want i think you know we don't really know like the ai might become the next nuclear weapon before it becomes sentient enough to stop ourselves from blowing the shit out of each that is possible but i don't think that's going to happen i think once something becomes sentient we're done i don't think we have any more saying anything and i think the idea of controlling it once it has the ability to rationalize and realize how silly we are no i agree with that species i agree that if we get to that it's going to to happen. But there is a sliding scale of fully sentient AI and where we're at now. And I'm worried that right here, when we're almost there, right here, it's going to be just powerful enough.

And someone's going to have it and use it to take the rest of the world all the way back. That is the Mad Max scenario, right? Yeah. That's the story that they tell after the apocalypse. That's it. After it's all over. You know? Of how close we were. And the scientists sit around and discuss how close we they tell after the apocalypse. That's it. After it's all over. You know? Of how close we were.

And the scientists sit around and discuss how close we were to changing the world. And now they realize that they're old men and there's no medicine around anymore. You barely can find gasoline. We could have had it all. And a few greedy men who still live on with that AI still have it. And then 10,000 years from now. The 1%. People find all these different ruins in America.

When America's covered with ice and then the ice withdraws again you know just like it's happened before right absolutely fuck and maybe they'll find a thumb drive frozen in ice and maybe one day figure out how to you know unencrypted but i doubt it i doubt it but they do find things they do find some old fucking shit they can't they can't account for you know the idea of idea of glaciers, though. The real problem with glaciers. We had Graham Hancock in here. I don't know if you listened to that one. He's a fascinating dude who...

Are you talking about chicks that look skinny from the waist up? Oh, those are icebergs. Sorry. Glaciers. Chicks that look skinny from the waist up are icebergs? Call them icebergs because above the surface they look all right, but down below it's... Oh, that's hilarious. So, I'm sorry.

Glaciers. Glaciers.iers glaciers move on land and essentially grind everything underneath them down to nothing yeah because they move you know several feet a year whatever they do but they're essentially a mile high sheet of ice that's slowly moving its way across the ground and out of my way bro there any buildings anything done giant boulders moved miles it's a slow-mo tsunami yeah it's like a slow-mo frozen tsunami just like later yeah how powerful is that have you ever been to the great lakes no that's how powerful the industry is you have to go the great lakes are something to really wrap your head around i mean the the oceans really uh made me think obviously you know everybody looks at the ocean

and goes wow it's so big that's amazing but until you see a freshwater ocean and you go that used to be ice and it melted it used to be a giant sheet of ice and that's why it's here i mean the great lakes are magnificent they're amazing man they're so fucking i was big just near them too for a wedding i'm kind of pissed i didn't get out there oh you got but i had to see a cracker barrel so we went out of the way to see that shit. I'm like, they frame their racists. It's amazing. In the Cracker Barrel. When you go inside, it's just photos

of old slave owners just framed around watching you eat breakfast. I like the gift shop. It's like all licorice whips and like old school promish games. Did you see that shit speaking of the Midwest, all the animals. Have you seen all the photos and videos? Yeah, yeah.

I put that on my Twitter. What we were talking about is there was a guy in Ohio who was running a wild animal preserve, shot himself, and released all the animals. I didn't know that was the catalyst. He committed suicide. He let all the animals go, and then he committed suicide, which is kind of interesting. I wonder why the dude didn't let one of the animals go. Did he leave a note, like, I can't imprison these guys anymore?

I don't know. I wonder why he didn't just let one of the tigers jack them. If you're going to kill yourself, why not just kill yourself by tiger? That would be wild. Well, when you have the option. Hey, you're around these wild animals every day. You know it would be quick. It wouldn't take long at all.

Just jump in there naked and go, what, bitch? What? Yeah. There's something weird about the whole story, though, because the sheriff knew him very well. I guess he had to go up there all the time. There was shit going on all the time with this guy. And if you look at his house on Google Maps, it's actually listed as a Harley motorcycle shop.

So he had a farm. Was it like an illegal preserve he was running out the back? I don't think it was illegal. No, I don't think it was no i don't think it was illegal uh but so it's weird like i want to know the whole story like what this guy was going on with this guy and now uh jack hannah the columbus zoo is overlooking this whole thing but i was surprised that they they couldn't uh you know i i know they had to shoot a lot of them but this seems like there's some of them they could have tried you know to tranquilize or something like that. The police force didn't have a chance, man.

What was going on? Yeah, but the zoo, honestly, is like 30 miles away from where this happened. Yeah, but do you understand what I'm saying? Do they have the resources to get out there? The animals were out, and there's people living there, and there's 40 fucking 50 animals

and tigers and bears and shit. This isn't Mountain Lion Poaches Poodle on Runyon Canyon. If you go to my Twitter today, while we're recording this, a lot of people get this online, but today is October 19th. So if you go to my Twitter

on October 19th, I retweeted somebody about this. The guy's name is Kenny Royer3. He looks like a winner too. He might be. Have you seen his face? Here's his face right there on Ustream

It's okay Anyway I went to What did he write? Did he write a story about it? No he just He tweeted it to me And I retweeted it

But there's a photo If you go to Clevescene.com I guess that's a Cleveland website Clevescene.com It's very graphic There's an image of All of these animals

Just laid out Murdered tigers and bears a bunch of them lions Panthers where they all like in a group yeah they're all in a pile here they they've they hunted them down the cops hunted them down yeah come on over the cops hunted them down and just shot them all you know you got to think what the cops are dealing with the cops are dealing with 50 fucking killers 50 wild killers that are aggressive, and they're wandering the streets.

I mean, they've got to do what they've got to do. It sucks that these animals had to die, but you know what? It sucks these animals were in a fucking cage in some asshole's backyard. How is one guy able to release all those animals? Was there nobody else on this preserve? I think it was his gig.

He just unlocked them all. I talked to my sister, who lives very close to this, nobody else on this preserve it was his gig it was his he just unlocked him on it i guess guy and i talked to my sister who lives very close to this uh and i said you know what are they saying to you guys they're like well they're saying that they're shooting all the animals because they all have herpes and stuff is what they're they're saying on the news is that the animals are all infected with the last thing you have to worry about is the tiger you don't know the way i think dude i'm like i have a chance to fuck a lion. Later, bro. I'm fucking YouTubing this. Get some lion herpes. Your dick looks like

a cactus. Your dick just grows these cactus things off the side of it. Yeah, but I guess something about herpes is what they're saying. No, I think your sister's crazy. No. No. Well, they might have been saying that to people so they didn't feel like, oh, you're killing the tigers. I know they treat people like

they're idiots in Ohio, but they don't treat them like they're that stupid. Yeah, it says, Musqueam County Sheriff says monkey with herpes virus still missing. Oh, that's the one they haven't got yet?

Oh, you know what? They probably don't want anybody keeping that monkey as a pet. Hell yeah. Maybe that monkey knows things. Maybe you get that monkey and that monkey's one of those

fucking Planet of the Apes monkeys and starts talking to you. Did you see that remake? They know that there's an alien remake? They know that there's an alien coming. They know that there's an asteroid. You can't stop it.

The alien's going to land right before the asteroid. There's a little monkey talking to you. Did you watch the Planet of the Apes remake? Did you guys see that? Yeah, we talked about it

a couple times. I liked it. I liked the special effects. It was badass. It's fascinating. When you talk about manipulating genetics, it's not outside

the realm of possibility that they've already done something like that they've already created some sort of a chimpanzee human being hybrid well dude when they tell you the shit that they tell you they have done already you know that there's a clone baby being monitored right now somewhere out there and they're seeing exactly how that worked and genetically eared genetically engineered kids out there yeah they're running tests on them right now like that's absolutely happening. I've always said that by the time they tell you that they're capable of making a clone, the guy telling you is probably a clone. Right.

It's been that long. There are clones. I'm the proof. Here you go. I wonder how far ahead they really are. I would really love to know. Every now and then I hear whispers of things, of technology, of military technology

that's so far and above you know the the realm of what we currently think is possible when we always hear like they have the satellites that can zoom in on a hot dog on your grill and they had those in 1983 man right I don't I'm they probably do I don't know I've never seen any images from space that I that were like really clear like that like they could read a license, but I've never seen that. Well, there was a point in time where they had Google imagery quality map, and you weren't able to see that. And now we can see that, and then we can see 3D versions of it

and street views and all that other shit. If we have access to that data, you know they've got better access than that. They have to. They've got to have real-time video something. Yeah, there must be some cool shit. And I don't have – look, I have a tinfoil hat that says, I bet they have it, but that's about it. Well, when I was hanging out with my friend Mike Swick, my friend Mike Swick's a UFC fighter who used to live in Russia.

And he was doing defense contractor work over there. And they had an American building and they would find bugs that the Russians had installed in their buildings. And he said they were so sophisticated. It was so far above anything they'd ever seen before they had monitoring devices that were powered by the movement

of the building by the subtle vibrations it's like no no no you know how buildings sway there's a subtle swaying back and forth

that was powering these listening devices they were that sophisticated that's like those shake to charge iPod holders but they have it on that level that they can get

the sway of a building and a device low-powerful enough and mesh-networked enough to spread those ideas. And that's how they were listening in on shit. China was just involved in a huge scandal for that.

Was it China or Korea? That's bad that I don't know the difference for this article. Oh, dare you. No, I know the difference of the places. I don't know the source of the article.

Prepare for a shit storm online. But they had a, yeah, bring it. They already kicked my ass in StarCraft. Oh, wait, which ones are those? Those are Koreans. Thank you. They had little bugs in cars, and they thought, they were like, listen, this is just tracking how often you drive for discounts

or for carpool riders and to help you get through the, it's like a fast pass lane kind of thing, right? This will just help you get through the toll booth. It had audio recording, and some said video recording built into the tiniest little bug that was sitting on their dash so that they could monitor everybody. Dude, eventually someone's going to hack Apple and they're going to get into your fucking webcam. Your cloud. They're going to get in your cloud.

A million people beating off videos of people sitting in front of their computers. Your computer has a monitor on it. Your computer has a camera on it. Your computer has a camera on it, and you're connected to the internet. You're just assuming that nobody's watching. You beat off like a lab rat. Right, right. The Xbox, no, all the Xbox cameras

and all the laptop lenses. But the thing I'm worried about is the photo streaming. Like you said earlier off camera, you turned off your photo streaming, which is a new thing on the new iPhones and stuff like that. It's the cloud. So every time you take a photo, it sends it to your home computer.

It sends it to your iPad. It sends it to whatever. And you can't delete the photos, which is really annoying. What? You can't delete them from your phone? You can't delete them from the photo stream? Yeah, you can't. I didn't know that.

Yeah, it's like once it's in the photo stream, you can't delete it. I don't know if there's a way to do it, but you try it on your phone or anything there's no way to delete what about your home computer i'm sure on your main computer maybe on your main computer but think about that time you you you do snap a photo out at a party or something like that right and it's oh shit it's already on my photo stream i can't get to my laptop mrs perera opens up your laptop and says god damn it kevin or bobby who's in his car sniping your Wi-Fi or whatever, now has all your photos. Isn't that easy?

Someone snipes your Wi-Fi. They can't get your photos. They have to get into your computer. There are applications. I've run one at the airport in Vegas. And you run it up on your Mac. And you connect to the public Wi-Fi. And as people browse Facebook and as GIFs and JPEGs pop in,

it automatically reassembles them on the monitor for you. So you can sit in the lobby of a small airport and just look around and see what everybody's looking at. Oh, my God. Mac or PC? This was a Mac program. I think it wasn't Kismet. I'll give you the app.

So does everyone else have to be on a Mac, or can they be on anything? No, if they're just connected to Wi-Fi and browsing certain services and certain packets are coming in, you can do that. So PC or Mac, no matter what it is. Yeah. So that's not secure.

It's the Wi-Fi. So that's incredible. So what you're telling me is you're a criminal. You were committing a crime. No, because these photos are in the shared folder, right? Is that what you're saying? Because these photos were being downloaded and uploaded potentially on a public unsecured. Well, you had to log in, but a public secured Wi-Fi spot.

Right. But people were sending them. It could be some dirty hooker who's got one of them facebook pages that you have to give your friend to look at yeah it absolutely could have been showing some titty it absolutely could have got that titty for free i have i'm saying i have this video called a kitty fart cup and anytime i'm on the road with joe uh we're sitting at the airport i look at you know people with shared folders and stuff and i'll just drag this video into i've done it like a million times i do that every comic-con every comic-con i seed into public folders at the hotel because if you're

connected never connect to hotel systems never connect to a hotel network that's like laying on the on the mattress naked and you do not do that you're asking for people to fuck with your computer yeah and the crazy thing is you could actually sit there and fuck people over by like putting child porn on people's computers and then if that person gets arrested, oh, you have child porn on your computers. They caught a guy doing that. They caught a next-door neighbor who had been terrifying these people for fucking years doing exactly that.

He turned them in and this guy was their next-door neighbor. He was terrorizing the whole fucking family. Do you know that there's a child pornography checksum database? Checksums are what you use, like it's like a file's ID. It's thumbprint.

So if you download a file and you want to make sure you got it exactly as it should be, it's a way of verifying the file to make sure no bits were altered or harmed

in the transmission. They have a database of every child pornography and illegal pornography video sorted by title with checksum so that way if the police are scanning Wi-Fi or get somebody's files from the internet they can match the checksum of the file on their hard drive to one

that's already in the database and see if it's in there so they don't have to watch the video whoa but they've got that database already so it's impossible for another video the same have the same amount of bytes like what if it's the exact same amount of seconds in the same resolution? Well, it's also based off the content of the file as well. So it's not just a length thing. So it's not just a size. It's an actual frequency? There's a thousand attributes that go into it, yeah.

Whoa, how are they reading that? Just they're analyzing each and every individual file? I think this is pure conjecture, actually. So I shouldn't be saying it. But I would imagine if you're doing a checksum, it could just know that every 100 bytes, here's a character string here. So there's a check for it there.

Every x bytes, this is the character. This is the hex. Put it there. I think it's way more elegant than that because I can already poke holes in that. Well, think about how crazy Shazam is. Think about that thing, that program where you go to a club and there's a song playing

and you like the song. So you press Shazam. It sends a signal. And 10 seconds later, it tells you what that fucking song is. Think about that thing, that program where you go to a club and there's a song playing and you like the song, so you press Shazam, it sends a signal, and ten seconds later it tells you what that fucking song is. Analyze the file, here it is. And I'm not exaggerating. If you've never used Shazam, it's fucking incredible. It's ten seconds later. Think of that. It's basically the same thing. But they have that now for TV as well. They have that for video.

They're going to have that for all that shit, like the image and app recognition image engine. What a weird world we live in right now. Have you guys talked about Siri becoming Skynet? No, we haven't. I talked about it. Someone sent me. Do you want to hop into that?

Yes, please, because someone actually sent me something we had talked about on the show. Real quick, dude. Please go ahead. Just so I don't get raped on Twitter. I believe you analyze the file locally, and it spits out a checksum. So it is checking every bit of the file, and then you check that against the public checksum oh just so i don't get i don't want to deal with those tweets tonight right i can't do my soul it's not in my soul anymore man i'm just trying to help you know so with that said i'm sorry well okay so someone um wrote that uh i said that siri was

based on wolfram alpha but it's not exactly true it's integrated incorporates wolfram alpha it's integrated but this is where it gets crazy it's based on true. It's integrated. It incorporates Wolfram Alpha. It's integrated. But this is where it gets crazy. It's based on Calo, the cognitive assistant that learns and organizes from a company called SRI International. And it was artificial intelligence augmentation software developed for DARPA. The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. That's like, those are the motherfuckers that really are Skynet. So if this is the version

we have now, what's stopping them from tapping a phone line, grabbing a voice chat, taking the audio from this podcast and analyzing it in real time

just like Shazam and pulling out those keywords and those context cues? This is fascinating. Because we have the dumbed down version right now.

They've got the hot dog on the grill satellite version of it. iPhone 5 version. Yeah, why is it so crazy to think that? Yeah and this is this guy also wrote something about how facebook was funded by uh tia total information awareness facebook is starting their own super pack to lobby the government on privacy and information controls and what we should have rights to because they

want to own the rights to your usage data, your social graph, your preferences. They want to own that data. They essentially want to own your imprint online. They want to own your browsing habits, where you shop. They want to know what music you like. They want to know what friends you connect with, where you go, who you share things with. I'm already MySpace-ing Facebook lately.

But I'm saying that you're kind of alone in that right now. It's growing, right? It's growing more and more. They're integrating more and more. Do you think Twitter has kind of overtaken Facebook for the most part? I know a lot of people. When I talk to, I just tweet now. Yeah, I know a lot of people that don't do Facebook anymore.

But they can still call that together from your tweets. It's more real time. You're responding to people back and forth. It's in a very similar way to text messaging. It's essentially for a lot way to text messaging. It's essentially for a lot of what I use it for. I throw things out there, interesting links.

I retweet things, things I observe, photos I take. But I also go back and forth with people. I'll shoot the shit with people. And it's people I would ordinarily never really get

a chance to run into or meet. Like my ex-girlfriend. Oh, yeah. Well, she tweeted something ridiculous. Yeah, it is facilitating a real-time conversation. Are you upset that I said something to her? No. Oh, you would prefer no one to communicate with her?

No. Whatever. Here's my question. You brought this up, so I have to say this. This is what I said. She, by the way, is Pen penthouse pet of the year. Is that the one that you met? No, you met the good one.

She's talking to another porno star. And the other porno star says, I feel a bad cold coming on. Who wants to make out? And she says, I'll make out with your butt. So I, on Twitter, say, wow. Just wow. That's the extent of my communication with her. She says, what are you

wowing? I ignore it. I just have to say wow. If you run around tweeting to the whole world that you want to make out with a cold carrying porn star's butt, I gotta wow you. Here's my question for Siri. I'm trying to fuck her, Joe. Do you think that there is somebody

at Siri that is continually continuing to add to the database? Do you think they're looking at the top 10 things that people are asking and going? Why does Siri need to connect to the cloud for anything that I do, even if it's a local operation, right? Read my text messages. Those are already on my device. If I say play Joe Rogan's podcast, it has to send it to the cloud first. And they'll say it's for voice recognition you know it's faster in the cloud than it does on your phone but it's the

program itself the database has to be huge for siri but for local things it could store that it could totally do that and maybe they will in the future but i think the reason they're making everything go to the net is for the usage data yeah because then they can see what keywords are happening what searches people are doing absolutely they can make it better. But with great power comes great responsibility. And what's crazy is that I had a friend that got mad at another friend for cursing at his Siri to be like, fuck you, Siri, you're a bitch. And he took the phone away and he's like, dude, don't do that. I don't want that in my profile.

And he was concerned about acting a certain way to a pretty dumb artificial intelligence. The murder thing? I've thought about the murder thing. Right. Well, now it's on file, dude. The president thing. Now it's on file. Did you do the president thing yet? What are you talking about? Nothing.

When you ask Siri a question, that's being stored somewhere. That request is indefinitely stored in some log right now. So if you ever are presumed you've murdered somebody or someone suspects you have a murder, they can now try it out on the stand. You asked your cell phone where to hide a body. I wonder if they have that. I want to know, does Apple say anywhere in those terms and agreement that they're holding onto the data of what we're saying in Siri? Is that one of the things? I'm sure. I'm sure it says that it's for usage data.

Which, what does that mean? I wonder. That is kind of crazy that they have to send it out to the cloud. Yeah. Now, there's infrastructure reasons to do that. There's also terrible usability reasons to not do that, being that if you have AT&T, half the time Siri doesn't work because you don't have a strong enough signal to get out to her.

What? Because we're faster. What? What's that? We're faster when it's available. So I'm on AT&T, but it's still a shitty network. There's no bones about that. Yeah.

I couldn't do AT&T. He told me that I got a new iPhone, and he told me that AT&T, but it's still a shitty network. There's no bones about that. I couldn't do AT&T. He told me that I got a new iPhone, and he told me that AT&T changed their system so that they can get double the speed of downloads. It's not double. It's pretty fucking good. It could be. It's 3.5G. Whatever it is, it's excellent.

It's faster, yes. Yeah, whatever it is, it's excellent. But LTE is going to blow that away. The next iPhone with LTE on Verizon is going to be amazing. I don't have that in my current one, but I do have Verizon. And I just was unable to pass on Verizon. Verizon is just too good. Why I said double is I actually had my girlfriend's new phone, 4S, both on AT&T.

We did both at the same time. The 4S was double, the speed where I was at. That's great. Which was my house. That's in a really good area. I mean, I don't get those speeds anywhere myself. I still get job calls in the canyons. Yeah.

But I think you look at how, like, think about Siri as that API opens up. Because right now I could say, show me a good steak restaurant. And it'll do that. It'll pop that up. You know, then I can say, call that steak restaurant. But once OpenTable supports it, I can say, hey, Siri, put me a reservation for four at six at that restaurant. And it's just going to connect to the database, do it.

There we go. Invite my friends. Invite Joe. The texting alone, I think, is the best when you're just driving. You push a button. It was pretty accurate. But Google has had that for a while. It doesn't work this good, though.

This works pretty damn good, though. This works almost perfect. Really? I probably fuck up more just doing it by hand. I've tried the Google one. Although it's weird speaking into it because you still got to kind of talk to it like a robot you can't be totally fluent with it and for like grammatical things like i'm still a stickler with grammar even in text so i'll be

like hey joe comma i'm gonna be a little late period hope that's okay period does it write period and comma it actually drops the period in there yeah have you ever tried writing like that with like uh you know i know they have uh the what is it the software like a dragon speak naturally speaking yeah yeah i've tried that before but i write in a different at a different pace with a different cadence than cadence than i speak so for me it was really disjointed like i would say something and then be wanting to change that i edit as i write yeah it's really really a terrible way to write but doing that verbally was even harder no my brain was already past the sentence, and I was like, oh, shit. I agree with you.

As a matter of fact, I like the idea of it, and what I had thought about doing was writing at the same time as running the program in the background. So the program would pick up some of the words and some of the things that I would say. So just in case, I couldn't remember what the fuck I had said while I was writing things. But I agree with you.

There's an intention to actually physically typing out each individual letter. The way I describe it is if you write the word occupy, it takes longer to write the word occupy than to know it. Than to just say occupy. Or to know what you're saying, to know what you're thinking. So it forces you to think about things just a little bit longer and it creatively it to me at least it opens up different avenues for possibilities for potentials like the way i always get my biggest like uh is when i'm writing because like i mean i get them in ad-libbing on stage and stuff sure but in actually sitting down

and writing about something that's's when paths just appear. Roads just show themselves. I don't think you'd... See, I get crippling anxiety. I love to do it, and it's so releasing. But when I do it, I see those roads as highways that have sheer cliffs at the end of them. I'm on the highway to hell.

And I'm just, fuck, got to commit one. You got to commit to one. That's not good writing music. What do you listen to music when you write? I try to listen to language That I don't understand I like Brazilian music Or Puerto Rican music

I like Spanish music I can't do music with lyrics Even if I don't understand them I can do it in the background A little bit As long as I don't understand it Or Sometimes

If I'm really high Especially on edibles I'll pick one song And just throw that bitch on reboot And I'll listen to the same song A hundred times in a row Really? Oh yeah

So I wrote some of my best shit On a plane blasted listening to the same song over and over and over again have you heard uh the song pumped up kicks i know you probably have yeah yeah have you you know what that song's about we talked about this last podcast i didn't know we talked yeah we talked about i think we might have talked about it off i think yeah i think we talked in the green room or something like okay but yeah oh that's exactly what it was uh the lyrics are all about columbine and it's like that was one, okay. Oh, that's exactly what it was. It was how the lyrics are all about Columbine. And that was one song I maybe listened to like 10 times, loved the song. And then Johnny Rotten told me, like, hey, that's all about Columbine.

And now it's even more crazy. And I love that lyrics. I mean, it's scary. It's freaky. Yeah, absolutely. And it's also crazy that people are just dancing around to it like it's pop music, too, without thinking about what the lyrics are. Nam Pham came into the octagon with that. Oh, really? That's what without thinking about the lyrics came into the octagon with that oh really that's what he's playing when he came into the octagon yeah yeah interesting choice run baby run out run my there's i'll listen to

there's like a spectrum of there's like a frequency spectrum that's supposed to induce that kind of zoning out and i started writing with that lately it's pretty crazy what do you do it all the time if you search it's like there's meditation videos and it's like 900 and something hertz sine waves that kind of loop that people have done made them like pretty sounding

not just an annoying thing it's just filter sweeps through a certain band pass that triggers that sort of white noise effect so what is it it lulls you into like meditative noise

if you have headphones on it's like binaural it really it's kind of cool so it's supposed to enhance creativity no it's just well if

I think you like songs with properties sometimes that you just zone out on right it's on a loop you let it go or sometimes i like to be inspired too though man i like you know well yeah that's why it's not for every writing moment but sometimes it's great to put on something that that that does kind of zone you out so you're only in that process that helps me because audible distractions knock me out like crazy sometimes yes sometimes no it really depends

on where i'm at with writing, what I'm writing about. Sometimes I need to be completely quiet, completely by myself. I mean, obviously, I'm a huge proponent of the isolation tank, and I come up with some of my best ideas. I still haven't done that. I did it sober for an hour, and that wasn't enough.

Dude, that's crazy. I can't believe I'm talking to you. That's one of the weird things that people talk about online all the time that listen to this podcast is how many of my friends are all fucking psychedelic freaks. They're trippers, and they've never tried the tank. Dude, the tank is... And I live right by one. You, you're crazy.

You need to get in there, dude. You're just scared. I'm not scared. I just don't have money to spend on... I'll set it up. I'll set it up. I promise you. I'll set it up. We'll set it up this week. I'll hook it up. I'll do it with you. If spend on I'll set it up I'll set it up I promise you I'll set it up we'll set it up this week

I'll hook it up I'll do it with you if you're gonna do it I'll do it we'll share one double day bro we'll stack it we're gonna do it

you need to get in there man anybody who's analyzing any part of their mind their thoughts it's the most amazing tool ever I started to feel it probably

I mean what I imagined was 45 55 minutes into it, even while sober. I really was like, okay, just let that shit go. Lose track and control of where your fingertips end and the water begins. Just shut all that shit out. And I started to get there. And I swear, the moment I was getting there, hatch open.

Your session's done. I was like, oh, fuck. I caught the bug. But I got to get back in there. It's just like, you know, we were talking to him in the kitchen before the show. I caught the bug, but I got to get back in there. It's just like, you know, we were talking to him in the kitchen before the show. He was asking me about dreaming and, you know, what different nootropics that create or enhance the possibility of lucid dreaming.

Right. And the thing about the lucid dream is that it's really slippery because once you realize you're dreaming, you kind of wake up real quick. And that's the thing about the tank. It's like these states that you can achieve. I've achieved some really bizarre states. The most bizarre one, I've talked about this before, but it's so fascinating. I have to bring it up, and I never do it justice.

I was in a jungle, and I was with this indigenous population. I don't know what their language was, but I understood it. They were making a bunch of strange noises and sounds, and I was thinking in their language. Could you see yourself? Were you physically manifest in it? I was moving. I couldn't see myself. I wasn't a third person shooter. It was very first person. I was walking around. I remember feeling the dirt under my feet, feeling the leaves and these people were talking and I was talking with them. No, I wasn't talking with them. I was understanding what they were saying. As I was understanding what they were

saying, I was realizing, what the fuck? I understand this, but I was saying that to myself in English. And then I was like, what is this? And then I was like, oh, this is a dream. Boom. And then it was over. But the moment while it was happening, it was so amazing because it only lasted a couple minutes.

It was really brief. But in that couple minutes, it was so crazy. The idea you're, whatever it is, whether it's imagination, whether it's genetic memory. I mean, who the fuck knows what is stored in cells as they transfer from generation to generation to generation. There may very well be some wacky fucking file deep in your hard drive and you just get in that isolation tank on a pot brownie and it just pops open this one little cartridge that you weren't supposed to access let's unencrypt that portion of your mental hard drive and just

beam that experience and you're some little monkey person from 500 000 years ago walking through a rainforest speaking in some dead language before the cosmic reset like that was one of those those lives that was one of those checkpoints dude here you go it was it was one of the weirdest things and the other the other weirder one is i'm like the other weirder one i've had hundreds of thousands of these i died dicks all like it was it a weird like you're just surrounded by dicks alien they all like they have a dick inside of them the dick comes out like the inception of penises yeah um the the number one thing is that you can never quite get deep enough like you get you get there's a bunch of videos of me talking about this online but there's one of them that some guy made on youtube thank you everybody whoever does those

fucking videos and all you people do there's a bunch of people do them take little clips out of the podcast dude your community does a phenomenal job of representing your you and and everything you say and they do a really great job they're amazing it's it's i'm super fortunate you know when i always say that too when i go to comedy clubs too you know the people at comedy clubs always say the same thing like you have the nicest fans they're the nicest the most generous and i don't know how that happened thank you very much i don't know i don't know what it is i don't you know i guess you put it out there and you know you hope that people see it the way you see it but

or I think they respect if you don't see it the way they see it and I think they see that in you as well like you're very respectful even if someone disagrees with you

like you're able to have that conversation when a large cross session of society isn't well I certainly try to be that's why it's inspiring to see that your fans carry that with them

in common like I always have a good time chatting with your fans always really that's awesome always yeah I mean there's going to chatting with your fans. Always. Really? That's awesome. Always, yeah. I mean, there's going to be always cunts no matter what you do. There's always going to be a certain amount of people.

You know, I wrote about this yesterday. I was responding to a bunch of people who were being insulting. I was like, man, you know, you've got to learn how to communicate with someone as if they were right there, you know? And so many people don't do that. And the built-in anonymity that the internet has, people have added it to their rights. It's almost like you're allowed to be a cunt because you're anonymous. There's a certain amount of disrespect that people are allowed to shine on people.

It's like, man, this is not necessary. There was a conversation that Duncan and I were having and that some people loved and some people just did not love. And there was some of the discussion about it was like, it was so bizarre how some people just have no problem just being completely fucking rude when they know that you're going to read it, you know, and they're talking about it in a way that's just not even remotely considering how a person's going to receive it. I it's, it's, It's the whole age thing too. I bet a lot of these people are like 13 and 14.

You're right. Yeah. But there's no way we can stop that. Yeah. I mean, unless we figure out some way to register. I mean, we know that Wick was posting on my message board when he was 13 years old. That's ridiculous. You know?

Yeah. Is he one of the good ones? Yeah, he's great. He's great. Yeah. He's actually going to be our science advisor. When he graduates from school, I think I'm going to hook him up with a a job and he'll be our science i was i was so many times that we talk about shit we don't know what the fuck we're talking about and he's pulling his hair out in

houston yeah so we're gonna have to hire him nice i was i was shocked at at the anger and vitriol that even my fans had initially when i started talking about like occupy and started talking about other things really and i was a little i was i was a little shattered and it made me question should i even be talking about this should i be taking a stance and then i was like no absolutely i should be because i want to be and immediately when i started engaging in the conversations with the guys that were all caps hatred no matter what it was like pretty much 99 of them either turned around and saw at least recognize there was another point of view or toned down the rhetoric rhetoric and was like hey look you know i disagree but i appreciate that

you're doing what you're doing some people just want to get your fucking attention well clearly and it and it clearly clearly but but this is the kind of thing though where you know you never know so you have to engage you have to engage if people are like well this is wrong and this is factually correct it's like well no here's the story read it have you seen it you have to engage because for every troll there is one person who doesn't look up the information

who doesn't have access to be upset about shit even if that shit has nothing to do with it like I can't tell you how many fucking people were upset at this alpha brain shit

that I'm selling these nootropics these vitamins why do that just going crazy on Twitter about it's a placebo you're ripping people off

it's not and this is what I said I said very clearly and I repeat this at every fucking step of the way But just going crazy on Twitter about it's a placebo, you're ripping people off. It's not. And this is what I said. I said very clearly, and I repeat this at every fucking step of the way. The proprietary blend that we have in that alpha brain is available online. If you're interested and you are on a budget, please go to a vitamin store or order the individual components online. You can get sacks of whatever those things are and do it, right? Exactly. You can get it at a discounted rate.

You could probably save like 50% or something. I don't know how much you could save. If you buy it cheap. See, the big thing is Aubrey's using all the good shit. So in the pills, it's the good shit. It is the best stuff that we can sell. It is the best stuff that's available. One thing I've noticed lately is- Let me make a point, though.

I really, my number one concern when I talk about anything that I like, anything that's benefited my life, and know this, this is a true statement. There's no exaggeration in this, no hyperbole whatsoever. If I'm telling you about it, I want you to do it because I think it'll benefit you. That's it. I'm not trying to sell shit.

I'm not trying to sell... I have a fucking t-shirt line that I never bring up. It's called higherprimate.clothing. Higher-primate.com. I fucking never bring it sell. I have a fucking t-shirt line that I never bring up. It's called hireprimate.clothing. Hire-primate.com. I fucking never bring it up. I wear the t-shirts every now and then. I want people to buy them if you like them. I see people with them at shows.

I think it's cool as fuck. I'm not trying to make a ton of money on it. I just, if you like them, I like them. I thought it'd be cool to have some funky t-shirts of monkeys and psychedelics. Nobody had them, so I decided to make my own company. It's that simple. I make plenty of money doing stand-up and from the UFC.

I would never get behind anything that I didn't believe in. It surprises me, though, that you have to explain that to your viewers. Not just have to explain it. Get in fucking furious arguments with people about the efficacy of these things

where you can't give them enough scientific information. They go, well, this was for Alzheimer's patients. You're telling me that something that benefits Alzheimer's patients can't possibly benefit people? So it has an effect on their mind, but it won't have an effect on a healthy mind.

It's a fucking placebo. Some guy said, you know what's better than that? Sleep and exercise. Yeah, but guess what, fuckface? You can have sleep and exercise and vitamins. Don't tell me that vitamins don't work, because they do work. Vitamins are excellent. I have vitiligo.

It's a skin condition where I lose pigment. You can see it in my knuckles. Yeah, but I only have it in a little couple spots and it stopped. You know where it stopped? Vitamins.

I got heavily into vitamins. When I first came to California, I was under a tremendous amount of stress. I had never been on TV before and I noticed I get these white spots on my skin. I was like, what the fuck is this?

And they started spreading, man. I started going to doctors. I was going to different vitiligo specialists. And I would have to take these things called sorolins. And they were pills that made me super sensitive to light. And then I'd have to get in like, it's almost like a tanning booth. But you only go in there for three minutes. Were they trying to tan the pigment?

No, no, no. It shocks the system where the parts that are losing pigment, it can bring them back to life. And it works in a certain way. I re-pigmented. So you shock your melatonin and you're like, come on. Sort of. I don't know the exact science behind it. But I had areas that lost pigment and it brought them back.

But you know what stopped all of it? Completely stopped in its tracks. Vitamins. Right. 100%. 100%. Because you believed in those vitamins. That's placebo.

People are assholes. Listen, man. Vitamins fucking work. A healthy diet works. Vitamins work too. But all of it works. And people go. People are assholes. Listen, man. Vitamins fucking work. A healthy diet works. Vitamins work too. All of it works. And people go,

what about science? Show me the science. Where do you think they got the vitamins? Witchcraft, you fuck? Did you talk about that? They're extracting vitamins from food and the way they're doing it

is a scientific method. They've done this. They've applied scientific principles to extracting vitamins and they sell these fucking vitamins. If you don't believe

in alpha-brano, you don't believe in alpha-brano, you don't believe in vitamins, that's good for you. But if you're fucking fighting people tooth and nail on something that they absolutely believe in, you're just trying to fight, man. And I guarantee you most likely

what it is with a lot of these people is they're not happy with their own life and they're probably smart but they're fucked up. And what they're doing is they're focusing something, whether it's online, whether it's an argument,

whether it's trying to win a flame war or whatever and that becomes their distraction from their miserable existence their garbage pile up in their fucking kitchen

their bills their phone ringing off the hook it sounds like the kind of person who could use a little faith in a placebo rather than being against it just if it works go with it

but here's the sad part about it the really sad part about it some of these people are very fucking smart they're very interesting the the the the points that they make even though they're nonsense points they're very eloquently stated they're argued very well there's a there's a very professional tone to the way they're writing things i'm like this is like a guy who you know obviously there's something wrong with this person they're really going after this as if he's just as passionate as the facts that he's collected to support his opinion. No, not these people that I'm talking about. There was no facts.

They had no personal experience whatsoever on these things. I'm not speaking for those people. I'm just saying that I've ran across this where there is like, you know, data is the easiest fucking thing in this world to manipulate. Any study can be skewed. You can prove that global warming doesn't exist. You can prove pretty much whatever you want with numbers, the way you skew them and everything. Sure. My point, though, was that there's

obviously, they're powerful. This is a good version of a human. This isn't a dope. This isn't some fucking ditch digging shithead. You wish that they were donating their processes to a more positive cause as opposed to being so negative. It's fascinating that that would be a subject that would drive you nuts whether or not vitamins work. You know, whether or not brain vitamins work. Like, what a weird thing to get all hyped about.

He might be idolizing you, though, and this is something that he believes, though, and so this one issue with you has now shattered that and he has to prove you wrong on it. It could be that. You know, he could be just a hyper fan or he could own 40 cats.

Or they could be a contrarian. There's some people that are just fucking contrarians. Or 14. Or 14. I don't think they're 14. I think there's a lot of older folks. I don't know. It doesn't matter.

The point is the way the internet is set up now, the anonymity that's built in, it's so easy for someone to be a twat. It's so easy. There's like virtually no repercussions. But slowly, that's built in It's so easy for someone to be a twat It's so easy There's like virtually no repercussions But slowly that's going to change And you better brace for it Because the shit's going to come down On all you fuckheads Because you're not going to be anonymous very much longer

You know Suckboy69 on fucking Reddit Or whatever the hell message board You act like a shithead on You go on the underground forum on MixedMartialArts.com or on my own message board. You're not going to be anonymous that much longer. It's really inevitable. There's a clear trend, and that trend is connectivity.

That trend is an interlacing of information, and you're not going to be able to avoid all the aspects of your life. That's why I wrote an Wired article aimed at anonymousonymous, which I know was opening up the floodgates for me to just be attacked, but my message to them was, hey guys, listen, I know it's fun to deface websites, and I know it's fun to hack Twitter accounts, but maybe you're younger, maybe you just don't give a fuck, maybe you really are doing it for the lols,

but you need to not get busted for the simple, trivial shit right now, trolling people online and putting out their data, because we need you for the fight, the real fight you know yeah lol sec just got turned in by an anonymous website uh proxy they were like oh wait a sec yes we uh definitely do this but in our thing it says don't do anything illegal and here we're giving the cops the information so they all got arrested there's people that hacked what was a playstation. Well, the real issue is just like Occupy Wall Street. Who's in Anonymous?

Who's in LulzSec? There's just, it's an open door. Right. Any crazy, who's on my message board? It's an open door. Any crazy asshole can join up. Certainly. Someone could deface a website in the name of Anonymous and you never know.

And that's absolutely happening now. Yeah. There was a fake Anonymous video posted to have like a hack Wall Street day. And it was like on a Monday. It was on a holiday. And everybody said this is clearly a plant because anonymous would never be so stupid as to attack the markets on a holiday when the markets aren't that volatile. And they would never post it in these ways. And people are already – it's agent provocateurs.

Just like the guy in the Citibank. They're doing that out at the fucking rallies. They're doing that as hacking. What does this madness here? Those motherfuckers. Does anybody want an energy drink? That'd be awesome. This is my friend Tom Atencio, the guy who was one of the original creators of Affliction.

He left Affliction. He doesn't work for Affliction anymore. Sweet logo. I stopped wearing their shit because he's my friend. Sweet logo, though. I like that. And now he created Limelight fusion energy drinks they're pretty fucking delicious they're healthy too i don't yeah i just started drinking he just sent me a

box but there's a ginkgo biloba in them and ginseng and 250 percent of the vitamin b6 100 percent of the niacin and 800 percent of your vitamin b12 for the day so there. So there's a lot of good stuff in it. It tastes good too. Mix that with some vodka. So if I drink this rocket fuel right now, am I going to be up until 8 a.m.? No, no, it's not that bad. It's not like a Red Bull.

But by the way, I should state that I have a high tolerance to caffeine. In fact, I quit caffeine for a day. I took yesterday off and I had a headache. Really? It's very upsetting. This is my first cup of coffee of the day. This is my first cup and I'm okay today. But that's usually how it is for me.

I've done this before, especially when I'm writing a lot. I drink a lot of coffee. And then the next day, I have a headache. I need a cup of coffee. But if I take a full day and go through the full day and drink a lot of water, the next day, it's pretty much gone. It's like one day. That's pretty good that you can cycle back down that quickly.

That's my only addiction. I have a physical addiction to caffeine. But it's not a physical addiction where it's painful or it's like a terrible itch. It's just like, oh, I don't feel so good. But you know what cures that? Fucking serious, ruthless workout. Just get a maniac, caveman, savage, adrenal adrenal pumping testosterone bleeding workout just where you fucking go

full grape ape on something and then it just resets your system then water's fine I've tried to do that hungover before and it's just shattered my body for like three or four weeks when you work out yeah I've been like oh I'm a little hungover I'm a lot hungover I'm gonna go to the gym and sweat it out get those toxins out but I push it way too far

and it shatters my immune system for like three weeks it's terrible best formula i've ever found for hangovers is this fucking alpha brain shit and coconut juice i love coconut juice and a lot of people don't and i'll tell you what this brand i'm not gonna mention the name not so tasty yeah it's not that good it's not that good but i think c2o is the best or Amy and Brian's pretty good also. Amy and Brian's is pretty good, but C2O is probably the best. C2O is the best and they send it to us. So you're saying take one of the placebos, one of those alpha brains and then chug it with some coconut juice. This C2O is fucking delicious. And I know a lot of people say, I've tried coconut juice, like dirty dishwater.

I hear you. Some brands actually do. This brand is fucking delicious. I hear you some brands actually do this plant brand is fucking delicious And the reason I got hooked on this brand we were at jiu-jitsu and this one one of our buddies Brought a whole case of it and apparently in Brazil they drink a lot of coconut water and we were having a gi day You know 10th plan jiu-jitsu we roll without a gi the gi is like the traditional uniform of jiu-jitsu but we the idea that Eddie had was that you know, first of all in No gi competitions a lot of the techniques of gi jiu-jitsu don't work.

And in mixed martial arts, you obviously don't have a gi. So you should learn. With the gi, you grab people easier. There's more traction. It's easier to hold on to people. And it's easier to get them to grab you, which is half the battle, right? Exactly. That's Hoist Gracie's strategy.

He would fight with a gi on, and strikers would grab him. They couldn't help it. So anyway, they drank a lot of coconut juice. So we had a guillon day and he brought a bunch of coconut juice out of respect for Brazilians because they love to drink coconut juice. And he goes, you want to try one? And I'm like, okay, just be nice. I'm like, coconut juice tastes like shit, right? But I drank this stuff. I was like, fuck, this is delicious. It's like the perfect flavor. Does it have like the coconut pulp in it?

No, no, no. Because I had one like that and I'm like that's not I'm on a ride with that yeah this one is so much better than this one

they're totally I don't know what the fuck they're doing C2O email me tell me what the fuck you're doing

why is your coconut juice do you put sugar in here bitch unicorn semen what's the calories unicorn semen he snuck that in there and he wasn't even going to comment

what's the calorie difference on that oh I don't know, man. I don't read that shit. They sell it on Amazon. C2O. C2O? You could have it signed up so they send you a whole case every week.

That's what I do. God damn. I got Amazon OneClick on my phone. That shit is so addictive. I'll have a thong in my head. Socks. Yeah? Anything.

I don't know. I impulse buy everything, man. Rolling papers. I buy my rolling papers. On Amazon? I got something you got to do there. Although, I'm going to stop being a medical marijuana patient. Why?

I'm going to stop smoking marijuana because you can't have a gun anymore. You can't have a gun or bullets. The federal government is saying that you cannot have a gun or bullets because the federal law dictates that marijuana is a Schedule I substance. So when you apply to the alcohol, tobacco, and firearms for a gun, to get a permit to buy a gun, you have to say that you are a user of marijuana. Wow. So they'll turn away your permit for that?

So I don't have to quit weed. Did they check the medical database, though? I'm going to go to whiskey, buddy. No, but did they check? Medical database, dude. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. Listen, the ATF does not fuck around. Right. If you lie on your form that you don't smoke weed and they come to your house and there's weed in the gun, then it's going to end well. That's how they got Al Capone. They got him for tax evasion. They didn't get him for running whiskey and shooting people in the head.

Is that retroactive? I don't know. Because I own several firearms. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Thankfully, I don't smoke pot. But if I did, I'd be really concerned right now. Exactly.

I stopped smoking pot. You squares. I'm here with a bunch of squares. It, exactly. Thankfully I don't smoke pot, but if I did I'd be really concerned right now. Exactly. I stopped smoking pot. You squares. I'm here with a bunch of squares. It's disgusting. I pay my taxes. I'm a fucking constitutional believing American. Constitutional believing?

That doesn't even make sense. It did to the people you were firing up. This is what I'm saying, goddammit. You should be able to have fucking guns and enjoy a little weed. And who do I want with a gun? Do I want a guy on pain pills? On fucking Ambien? Do I want a guy who's drinking whiskey?

Or do I want a guy who's high and paranoid and is not going to shoot anybody? That's the guy I want. Leave out the paranoid part. Leave out the paranoid part. Paranoid people are going to hide. They're not going to go shooting people. You're not going to rush into violence if you're paranoid. You're like, let me get the fuck out of here, man.

What if they shoot back? I don't think that marijuana inhibits your judgment to the point where having a gun makes it prohibitive or makes it dangerous. I think if anything, it's going to make you a scaredy cat. It's going to make you nervous. It's going to make you more sensitive

to the possibilities of hurting somebody or hurting yourself. Yeah, but they're going to point to the one dude who has a bad trip and thinks he's seeing shit off of an edible and starts shooting somebody. That's going to happen. That's bad science because what about the million people that don't pull their guns out because they are high?

Right. And then just say, let's just let this go. But any number can be manipulated. I mean, it's clearly no worse than being able to drink at a bar and have a shotgun rack on your truck when you're driving home. No shit. No different than places that allow that. That's fucking crazy. That's fucking crazy.

It's fucking crazy. It's fucking un-American, man. It's un-American to step in and say that if you want to have something that the states have voted on and you have a goddamn right, and there are states' rights, you're supposed to supersede federal rights, you're supposed to be able to decide what you can and can't use, and the state comes along and says, you know what, we've looked at all the information and guess what? There's a lot of people with glaucomas, a lot of people with cancers, a lot of people

with anxieties, a lot of people with all sorts of different fucking ailments. Marijuana helps them. There's a lot of people who know why it's illegal and think it's fucked up and want to get high. I shouldn't need glaucoma. I don't want to smoke weed. Yeah. The bottom line about marijuana, this is the bottom line.

This is one way to look at it. My friend Todd McCormick brought this up. He said it's a commodity. It's no different than corn or apples or pork bellies and it should be considered as a commodity. And if it is considered as a commodity, then you have to look, well, why is this commodity being kept from the marketplace?

Who's benefiting? And follow the fucking money. Follow the money trail because guess what? There's not a god damn thing in the world that's useless that makes no money that people are beating down the doors trying to make illegal. Right. There's not a single one.

There's not a single one. It has to be worth something to somebody to keep that shit illegal. That's the only way they spend money on it. Well, clearly it is. It's the prison industrial complex. The cops who enforce this shit that don't want to lose their jobs, even though many of them now are for it in the special in California. Of course.

Most cops are. In this day and age, when you get a fucking person on television who represents the united states government and they start talking about going after real estate owners for renting out property to these cannabis shops they're going to steal their fucking property the government's going to come in from hard-working americans who put their fucking businesses for rent they have this they buy a place they say well now i'll rent this place out i'll make myself a nice little profit. What do you do? Oh, you sell medical

marijuana legally under state guidelines. Okay. Well, there is Proposition 215. It was passed in 1994. That's been a long time. It's been legal in the state. So go ahead and do your business. And then the federal government comes in and says, no, we're going to steal your fucking house because you rented out to someone who sells pot. Fuck, man. And people

will say, why do you tweak out about this stuff? Why do you let it bother you? Because it is the ultimate fuck. It's the ultimate ridiculous thing. You have a plant that's literally one of the most beneficial plants on earth. And I'm not even talking about the psychoactive portions of it. I'm talking about the use of it. First of all, it contains all the amino acids.

You can eat it. It's high in protein. Hemp protein is like some of the best protein you can get you can make oil out of this shit you can make fucking biodiesel out of this shit you make superior paper out of this shit you make clothes out of this shit that's way stronger than cotton it sounds fake when you start listing all the different cool shit that you can make with it it literally sounds like you're lying it sounds like you're bullshit wait this has completely better properties than anything else on the market?

Yeah, it absolutely does. But wait, it grows in any weather condition for the most part? In any soil? Think about all the trees that get chopped down to make paper. How much fucking paper we use every day? You can make four times as much paper in the same acreage of marijuana, and it grows back in six months. Yeah, it grows back right there.

Right away. Instead of 20 fucking years or whatever the hell it takes to grow back your paper for trees it's amazing it's one of the prime fucks and it's one of the things that has to be addressed

and even if you disagree I'm sorry but even if you disagree with what it can do or why it can do it or the propaganda out there and even if you feel reaped for madness

and drugs drugs drugs the sheer violation of rights when the federal government comes in and as you said boots you out of your fucking business that you put your neck on the line for and try to do legally according to state law

that should have everybody enraged regardless of what the subject is and not only that how about prioritizing our fucking problems when we're living in a day and age where there's rampant crime all over the place people are getting carjacked and shot and you look at the fucking murder rate in Los Angeles.

20 million fucking people stuffed into one small area and traffic and nonsense and car theft and home invasions. You look at all that and you're telling me that you need civil servants to go after a plant that makes people silly? You're going to waste our fucking tax dollars

arresting people for selling silly plants. for selling plants that make food taste better make sex taste better make movies more awesome really you fuckheads it's it's the ultimate fuck you it's the ultimate power move it's the ultimate this is not a free country move it really is and yet it's happening and yet it's happening so now what well now what is occupy wall street is now what now what is the bubble has burst? Now what? It's boiling.

So when Occupy starts having signs that say, give us back our weed, then they're going to try to roll on the movement and say that it's just another hippie movement. All these kids want are their fucking drugs. They're not going to be able to do that. I don't know, man. I think it's too late for that. I think it's too late for that. I think it's already gotten too big.

Oh, I don't think it has. I don't think it's gotten big enough with the people who need to believe it's for them. Well, it's got to get bigger. Right, but is it going to get bigger because they're going to put their ad dollars behind portraying the movement as a pro-weed, this is what they care about movement? Like, isn't this an excellent move? It's going to marginalize people at this point in time. 50% of Americans in the most recent Gallup poll said that they want marijuana legal. That's higher than it's ever been before.

It's the first time ever that it's passed the people that want it illegal. But there might still be half the country, though, that is like, fuck you, that shit needs to be illegal, that's what you hippies are about? Forget it. And it divides us up into teams again. That's what I'm saying. I don't think so. I don't think that's going to be the boiling point, or rather a leverage point. No, no, no, but just like they don't have a leader,

there's not going to be one thing. They're going to attack this thing for every fucking reason they can. What I'm saying is, I don't think it's a good point. The marijuana point is not a good point because most people think it should be legal. Half of the people think it should. Half of the people believe it should be illegal.

So you just lose half of the country right there by making this about that one moral issue. Then you pick out another issue. Then you pick out another issue. That's a good point. And another issue.

That's what I'm saying. That's a good point. It marginalizes the whole thing. That's a good point, but I think there's enough people that do believe at this point that other people are going to have to start listening because there's enough people like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, intelligent Republicans that are really pragmatic, thoughtful people that can tell you why it should be legal. But does he stand a snowball's chance in hell of being elected and affecting any change?

No, no, no. Well, affecting change for sure. Ron Paul is probably doing more impact socially on any other candidate besides the people that win. I agree. I absolutely agree on that. He got a partial audit of the Fed. But can you believe that they put in- How about what they found out? Trillions of dollars-

Trillions. That were not accounted for. More than our debt over the history of this country, they lent out without any debates, without any notification, they lent out more money than the history of the debt of our country to bankers to bail them out. They gave us one amount and then said, okay, here you go, here you go. Bail out the countries worldwide. Just go. Just go.

Most people don't even understand. And that was on a partial audit. Yeah, partial audit. Most people don't even understand when you hear about the Federal Reserve system. It's not federal. Yeah, it's a private company i mean the line is it's as federal as federal express it's a private company run for profit it's so hard to that our money is all being privately handled by foreign banks i mean that is a that what a

mind fuck that is every dollar that you work your ass off to earn has debt already tacked onto it to somebody and you don't even know it but how is that possible that they can call it the federal bank when i mean what what that is crazy that's like calling a company that breaks into your house movers right you know what i mean it's like how are you calling it that how is that legal you know how is it legal to call that the federal bank, the federal reserve? Because I think they were the reserve for the federation, right? I mean, that was what they were. They're like, well, when this country is in dire straits or there's a market spike or the next depression is going to happen, we're going to be there to make it all right by printing

money. We're going to be the bank that lends money to the country. What's amazing is when someone's running for president and they meet with the build a bird group just out in the open they just go and meet with them and you know they they have these fucking meetings and it's all i want to chat with you for a few minutes bill clinton running for president met with the bill vote on that guy meanwhile they probably all meet with them you know but clearly figure out who's the best puppet clearly has that ever been and that's that's so frustrating with obama right now because the and i hope i'm just gonna ask you that has it ever been more evident so clear and i was duped i was fucking duped i was sold on the hope and change and the reason i was duped was not because uh i just i wanted to believe in in the posters but because i looked at

where the money came from and it came from guys like me i don't know if it came from you or you but it came from individuals it wasn't so much't know if it came from you or you, but it came from individuals. It wasn't so much from the corporations. I wonder if it even did. There was some there. I wonder if it even did. I mean, who the fuck is auditing where the money comes from? There's a couple sites that look at donations and whatnot,

but that's never fully... Do they have it all down? No, I mean, there's always back channels. And so for all I know, yes, the corporations could have totally put them in there. But I know that I donated, and I know a lot of other people donated, and so the sentiment amongst guys like myself

who feel like sheeps now, the sentiment was, hey, the people are putting him here. So he's got the chance for the hope and change. He's going to fuck those banks over. He's going to get us out of those wars, like he said. He's going to do this, that, the other. And I thought because,

well, my money went to put that there and so did millions of others of Americans. He's going to feel beholden to us. He just escalated everything. Escalated everything. Continued the same policies right away. More people are being spied on than ever. More.

More civil liberties. More rendition is happening. Guantanamo's not fucking closed down. Not at all. We're still in wars. Remember that? We're going to close down Guantanamo Bay. Oh, listen.

It's a logistics thing. We've got an Excel spreadsheet. It's going to take us like a year to figure it out, guys. Yeah. No, you're not closing that motherfucker down. Yeah, meanwhile. You're clearly not. And then taking the guys who are responsible for defrauding the nation these

guys from jp morgan from city bank from goldman sachs from bank of america and putting them in positions of power in positions where they can control the money you put those guys in power the ones that literally fuck this country by selling faulty mortgages and betting against their own customers that's the crazy shit. Like betting against them, selling you shit in a box, putting a triple A rating on it and saying,

dude, this is so secure, you're going to love this shit. Oh yeah, we bet against it and now it's going to fail. And then you're going to give me the money to bail me out? He put those motherfuckers in his cabinet.

I'm happy Don't Ask, Don't Tell got repealed, but you got some fucking work to do if you want to get my vote. That's a crumb. That's what I mean. Don't Ask, Don't Tell, that's a goddamn crumb. a sign you're allowed to be our hired killer even if you're gay congratulations the world's perfect now right yeah we really we need those numbers up we don't need gay people killing people we don't need any new people killing people i was out at the rally

with a sign that said wall street wants to gay marry your illegal abortions and people were like are you trolling this event what are you doing and i'm like no no no I'm saying that like someone might see this and get outraged. And the statement that I'm trying to make, which was woefully missed, I get it now. But the statement I was trying to make was that the same anger you have for moral issues, you need to apply to the issues that are the fundamental problems right now, in my opinion. It's not those little moral issues that are on the sign that you're being offended by right now. It's these bankers that took the fucking money. It's the government that's bought by the bankers. It's the police force that's being offended by right now, it's these bankers that took the fucking money. It's the government that's bought by the bankers. It's the police force that's being paid by them

to stifle your rights to protest. It's all that shit. Like, if that foundation crumbles, we won't be able to have the conversations about the moral shit that you want to have a conversation on. That just won't exist anymore. I had to read Matt Taibbi's articles about every single aspect of it.

I want him to lead this movement, even though they can't have a leader. I had to read them ten fucking times just to even understand all the bullshit that exists behind the scenes. Derivatives and shorting. It's so hard to believe that there's an economy

based on gambling that things are going to fail and that that is 100 times larger than the actual economy. Right. It's all based on speculation. Wrap your fucking head around that. It's like I get to bet on a horse in the race. i get to bet that that horse isn't going to finish the race and i

get to put the horse in that race i know he's not going to finish and i'm going to tell you this is going to be the number one horse you're going to be super secure give that money with me there we go and horse dies on the fucking first lap and and nobody there's not been since the savings savings and loan scandal which is a fraction the savings and loan scandal. No one's been arrested. Which is a fraction. The savings and loan scandal was a fraction of this fraud movement. Enron was a fraction of it in terms of detriment to the country and homes and our budgets. Fraction.

And not one person has been investigated or put away. How gross is that? Yeah. What a weird, weird world we live in we are literally being sucked dry by financial vampires it's like there's a vampire colony that's preying on our people but the way they're doing it instead of sucking blood out they're sucking money out and they live in these opulent castles that you can go nowhere near this armed guards and fucking fences and they're sleeping in their coffins

and they're just socking money out of it. And they're doing it and they're doing it legally somehow or another. They're donating money to the cops. 4.6 million dollars

to the cops so they can fucking keep them away from them while the protests are going on. Fuck, man. It's insane. Have you ever seen

The American Dream, the animated cartoon? No. It explains the Fed in a very simple beautiful way Inside Job was a great one for that

now people are starting to get aware of that Inside Job's amazing Inside Job's phenomenal but again I had to watch it 40 times yeah exactly

but how amazing is it when that guy's questioning all these different professors that now these guys they become professors and then they get jobs working for the government

so when they're professors they say shit that turns out to not be fucking true at all they say shit that enables businesses to get away with creepy things because well we went to this financial expert and his this is what his opinion is he's like hey everything's going to be cool and they're like hey he said everything's going to be cool he's got a phd and then it turns out this cocksucker goes and starts working for the federal government afterwards or starts working for some big corporation afterwards and gets some cushy ass fucking job and is making X millions of dollars per year because of his decisions that he made that support these fucking vampire

criminals. It's the same revolving door with the SEC right now. Like the guys are supposed to be regulating Wall Street and putting cases up to the government so they can actually enforce them. They know that if they don't prosecute, if they don't do anything, there's going to be a revolving door. When they're done with their two or three years, they can hop right on over and work for the guys that they were supposed to be investigating.

There's no laws against that. What's going to happen? So this is what we all see. We all see Occupy Wall Street. We all see people freaking out. We all see how many people are like us all across the country. I mean, what is this? This is just a conversation between friends.

How many friends are sitting around smoking a joint, drinking a couple of beers, having the same fucking conversation, spitting at each other in a bar somewhere, going, these motherfuckers. What's going to happen? Where's this go? It's a great question. Because it's more than ever before. It's more than at any time in my life.

This is like, we are right now at Vietnam protest levels. We're at the state where you see that girl get maced in New York and you hear that that guy only got fucking 10 days of vacation time removed. You're like, how is that guy allowed to be a fucking cop?

You went around and maced some chicks? You should have to fucking fight Chris Cyborg. That's what they should do. You want to mace chicks? How about you get in the rain in your underwear?

Fight that Marine that says there's no honor in pepper spraying three women in a family. That Marine that Marine that says there's no honor in pepper spraying three women in a family. That Marine might gas out. It's better to let Cyborg Not against Officer Tony Bologna. No, no, no.

He'll get the job done. You never know. Tony Bologna might have a good guard. He might get a little to get that guy off. His guard smells like Old Spice. His guard ain't gonna be that strong against that Marine.

You see that one cop threw a sucker punch at one of the protesters and it was like the worst punch ever. You're like, you should never be confident enough to punch a man with that whack ass technique you have you don't know how to fight at all right yeah you have the balls to throw a punch in a crowd against an unarmed protester you fuckhead which shows just how fucking peaceful despite the agent provocateurs it shows just how peaceful this movement truly is, because I know that's the only way.

Well, it's also that you see these cops that are older cops, the white shirt cops, you know, those are the guys that are older cops that have been in the force a long time and they get jaded. Oh, they've seen the worst of humanity. They get entitled to, you know, and they get cocky and they think that they can get away with some shit.

That's what enabled him to pull the trigger and punch him in the face like that. But they've also dealt with scum day in and day out like you said so they see somebody in their face screaming at them which that should not be happening but they see that exactly and they go okay i'm now identifying you as scum right now you know we got to win the police over if this thing's gonna work at all and that that that concerns me that's an uphill battle oh i don't think so i like like i said before i think the cops are gonna figure it out eventually that it's all all a pile of horse shit once things start sliding. I hope so.

Well, I hope – you talked about people that are willing to commit atrocities, right, because they've been desensitized. Like they've got enough non-lethal arsenal right now to fuck up a lot of people and still feel like they're not being lethal. They're just being okay. They're just following orders. They're just worried about their paycheck as well, and that will be said. But pepper spray is one thing. They've got got the sonic weapons they've got fucking rubber bullets like you look at at revolts and revolution throughout history they never had the weaponry that they have right now to use against their own people right that's what scares the shit out of me well that

they could flip on a ray gun and it will microwave your intestines you are so freaky man google it get this guy together with Alex Jones. There's video footage from a news reporter taking a microwave beam weapon from like 10 years ago. Google it right now. And he stands in front of it, and there's a click, click, click, click, click. And the guy goes, oh, God, instantly steps off the pad. This was from years ago. So it's basically like putting a rabbit in a microwave.

Yes, except it's directional. It's pinpointed. They could point it at you, or they could arc it out in a beam and say here's the switch it just cooks people you instantly feel like your intestines are on fire is the way this news reporter who stood in front of it years ago described it to wearing chain mail you know like we're gonna have like armor suits well yeah but you can't because like if you put a can of soda in the microwave it'll fucking explode? But you can't wear masks. You can't wear gas masks. You can't have sticks anymore for your sign because that's a weapon.

You can't have anything anymore. So they're going to quell that shit right away. You should really watch that video. Nope, that's a weapon. Oh, my God. You know, there's a thing that I watched on TV the other day where they were talking about sonic weapons and what they're able to do now with sound. They can cause permanent deafness.

They can cause permanent blindness. They can blind you with sound. Can you imagine that? There's a video of that in use. I think it's in Detroit. It's either Detroit or Pittsburgh where they roll out. There was a small union protest. It's online, and it literally announces, and I'm going to say Detroit.

I might be wrong on this, but I'm just going to fucking say it. The truck rolls out and goes, Attention, city of Detroit, from these giant booming speakers on a big black monolithic looking car with riot police in front of it bashing their shields with batons to create sound. And the thing is like, attention, we are going to employ sonic weapons. I think you're talking about the sonic weapons they used in Vancouver at the Olympics. That's what it was.

I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I remember that. I just looked it up. But they were threatening to use things like that. I believe it was at one of the union protests. No, they used in vancouver at the olympics now that's what it was i'm sorry yeah yeah because i remembered that i just looked it up but they were threatening to use things like that i believe it was at one of the union protests no they used it yeah well no they used that at the olympics for sure so and that was again years ago and this was this was for a non-violent protest they're calling it an acoustical device yeah right bitch that ain't a harmonica it's a fucking sound weapon this is a high fidelity dispersal unit what we're gonna

make you deaf if you don't get the fuck out of this area they blasted some somali pirates with it on this uh this thing that i was watching the uh the u.s government used it to keep off somali pirates they were coming near this boat and they just turned this thing on right i just did and they just fucking blows their brains out and they have to swim away. They should have new shit where it's like, in the next 10 minutes we're going to have this thing that's going to break your iPhone. I personally like it the way the fucking Russians handle it. The Russians go after Somali pilots.

They fucking pump missiles into their boats and they peel them up and they shoot them in the fucking head. That's the way to do it. You know, these sonic weapons, man. This is some lame shit. But it's going to be turned on. You need to send a message. That's the way to do it. You know, these sonic weapons, man, this is some lame shit. But it's going to be turned on regular folks. You need to send a message.

Yeah, maybe. That's what concerns me. Yeah, well, that's a real concern. You know, when technology, as far as, you know,

weapons and shit and riot stuff, when it becomes viable, you know, when it becomes something that people can make money developing, you know,

and these weapons companies, they're going to start turning it on people. Well, why else would you build them and buy them? I mean, that's the last institute here's what's gonna happen right the military industrial complex we you guys think that if there's money in making war there's also money in keeping peace there's also money and battling against insurgents right here in America I mean that's what people are gonna be called right true version of insurgency I mean you know that the people that are rallying up

against the you know the the oppressive are rallying up against the you know the the oppressive force right and what they're going to see is uh what worries about me worries me about this is that the imagery like when they shoot people in protests right in the arab spring and you see people just getting fucking shot you go holy shit man that's fucked up we you know got intervened you get world support you get other people but if they use sonic weapons and people are angry and protesting finally which it may have to get to, I sure fucking hope it doesn't, but even if they have an agent provocateur, spark a crowd, they're going to say, listen, these guys got out of hand, this protest is violent and angry, and look, we didn't even kill them, we just microwaved their insides for a little bit. They won't say that. They'll say we used a sonic weapon.

And so people at home will be like, well, they're being very humane to those violent people, so this isn't nearly as jarring. If they were shooting them, then I get up. I heard only ten people went deaf. It was only 10, and they wouldn't listen. Right. I had this argument with my parents, and they're like, well, if the police told you to get out, you're not supposed to be there. They told you to leave. I couldn't explain the concept of protesting to my parents.

It gets to a certain point. It gets to a boiling point where what happens because it's growing right now they're saying that every day at occupy wall street in new york it's a bigger and bigger crowd every day people are coming from all over the world to participate in it my friend jamie kilstein he's doing they're in fucking melbourne australia they're doing occupy melbourne you know There's like 10 people, fucking hippies. But they're out there. 10 hippies in Australia, mate.

But they're out there. Fucking bankers, mate. Yeah, they're out there. But I mean, it's gigantic. It's beyond gigantic. So what does it do? When you look at it, do you extrapolate? Well, constantly. There's a million ways this thing can go, which is why I'm so fascinated by it. Me too. I mean, we are living in a chapter of a future history book, or we're living at the end of our society. Maybe both.

You don't know. Maybe both. Maybe both, yeah. Maybe this is New World Order shit. Maybe this is when the crowd gets completely beat down, and that's it. There's nothing you can do. We just be slaves to the system. Did you see Ron Paul at the Republican debate?

Yeah. beat down and that's it there's nothing you can do we just be slaves to the system did you see Ron Paul at the Republican debate yeah Ron Paul had this one brilliant thing that he said that everybody says that really pays attention to human history he said this is exactly how every single Empire has fallen they try to spread themselves out too thin and eventually it all comes crumbling down it's it's amazing we have a blueprint we've seen this we have the knowledge to connect all the dots as to what's happening right have a blueprint we've seen this we have the knowledge to connect all the dots as to what's happening right now and yet we're just

repeating history but with slightly different tools and in slightly different volumes you know it's been ratcheted up and we've survived

a lot of that history but who knows what atrocities could lie around the corner but I've even been looking at like I'm doing alright I got a good job

I got great friends like I'm doing great and I see I'm really concerned for the direction of this country which is why I'm doing all right. I got a good job. I got great friends. Like I'm doing great. And I see, I'm really concerned for the director of this country, which is why I'm trying to educate myself and be a little more outspoken about it. But I'm really concerned to the point where I've had the discussion of, all right, well, where the fuck, where's our exit strategy? What is it right now? If the shit really hits the fan tomorrow and they declare martial law on the streets, lockdown, you know, the riot police are coming in or the Marines going to come in and fight. Am I going to wake up tomorrow morning my dollar's worth nothing and there's a

war zone outside my window i mean we're we're potentially two to three years away from that maybe more who knows what's going to escalate maybe less it could happen tomorrow and and that the notion that it could happen not that i think it will but the notion that it could i never thought i would feel that in my lifetime in this country and i feel it right now and i've been researching do I go to Finland Switzerland I mean Japan

was my exit strategy for a little while there love Japan but that country's hit some fucking hard times right now and it you wouldn't go to Canada

I would go right to Vancouver Vancouver's the shit I've never been to Vancouver Vancouver's awesome is it you ever done shows yeah yeah

dude Vancouver first of all great comedy scene great weed super nice people and really a really diverse community

of all sorts of different kinds of people why aren't they there now why should you gotta be there now dude I almost moved there in 1984 when Bush won again

not in 84 rather 2004 when Bush won again in 2004 I just sat back and especially because I was paying attention to the whole Diebold voting thing.

I was like, this is ridiculous. I watched the Hacking Democracy documentary, and I'm like, these guys, they stole it. This is not real anymore. You've got a programmer testifying under oath that he wrote code that allowed him to rig an election. And he showed how it can be done and then did it and showed how there's a

third party option in the software that allows a third party, other than the voter, other than the person reading the vote, a second person, another person, comes in and inserts data and changes the data. And they showed how it can be done. They had been massive contributors to the Republican Party. The idea that some

company can contribute to the Republican Party and then make a machine that decides whether Republicans or Democrats win elections is madness. Absolute fucking madness. It's called hedging your bets. I got furious, man. There was a period of time over a couple of weeks. I'm a big fan of Canada. I love going up there, and I don't like the cold, though.

And I was like, man, Montreal would be the shit, but the winters are brutal. Fuck. Where else could I live? Right. So you had that thought. Oh, yeah, man. I still do. I still go back and forth. My friend Bobby lives up in Vancouver. So what's going to be the pin drop? I don't know.

Can you imagine? What's the catalyst? It might be just as I get older. It might just be as I get older, I just decide enough is enough of this nonsense. You don't have to live in this country. We are eventually becoming a global society. The connectivity that we all enjoy right now

because of the internet lets people realize that communities, like my message board, I have a massive message board. This community is a message board of really cool people from everywhere, man. I have people from fucking Saudi Arabia. I have people from foreign countries. I have Asian countries. I have people from Canada, a lot of fucking people from Canada, people from Switzerland and Sweden, all over the fucking world. It leads me to believe that this idea that a fucking line in the dirt can dictate where you're from.

No, no, no, no. It should be like-minded people. It should be cool people, like-minded people. Find them. And if you find a spot, oh, it's across the dirt line. It's no good anymore. Yeah, but it's awesome. Whether it's fucking Costa Rica or where the fuck it is.

it's awesome whether it's fucking costa rica or where where the fuck it is if you find a place that you think that you could live a safer healthier friendlier life than what you're here in the in the center of the shit storm you know look i would i love the idea of america i love the idea of it all i love the idea that you know we save the world from the russians and we save the world from the nazis and that we're you know the the the noblest and the most creative i love the idea but i don't see it in practice and it scares me i've never been to an ascar game it's not a game it's it scares me to think that i'm a that i'm a rube you know that i'm locked into this stupid fucking system and if if it gets any worse man i don't know what to do that's what i'm saying like what is the falls apart around what is the catalyst you know and that's what i've been

thinking because you you know, people had chances to get out of countries that became locked down and war started and then it was like, yeah, you ain't going anywhere. They had signs. They had news reports coming out. They had all that shit. They didn't have the internet, though. They didn't have the internet.

It was a different world. The world that we're living in is a very strange world. And I don't know what happens when it all falls apart. I don't know, is someone going to try to reclaim power? I mean, is there going to be an actual physical war? Are there going to be tanks in the streets? And who are those soldiers? Those soldiers are going to actually go after their brothers and sisters and cousins and neighbors? Are they going to do that? Right. Yeah. Hopefully not.

How can they? How can they? Is that possible? Well, I mean, they could be sold a message that it's not their brothers and sisters and neighbors, that it's insurgents, that they're terrorists. And that would be the agent provocateur. So we need a certain population of sociopaths to make this whole fucking plan work for the man. We're going to become Mexicans. We're going to be going north to Canada. You're saying that the agent provocateurs are sociopaths?

Yeah, we will be the Canadian Mexicans. Exactly. Mexican versions of Canada. Yeah, I'd rather live in a cold climate i might even live in alaska i might even live in alaska better than this so have you seen this fish with the transparent head have you ever seen this uh photo oh yeah yeah it's like a real deep underwater fish yeah it's it's a fish and they have it on youtube or there's photos it's on from national geographic but it's actual fish that you can just see right

into its brain and and like you can see its organs. Yeah, do you know the name of it? I think they call it a large Pacific... B-A-R-R-E-L-E-Y-E. Barrow eye? This is a video from a few years ago? This was like 2009. I just saw it the other day.

It looks like the fish from Sega Seaman for the Dreamcast. Yes, exactly. I like that fish. It's a fucking alien world, that ocean, man. I always see the real deep water shit,

like the Planet Earth deep water edition. Anything on deep water, I see the life that exists on this planet and it makes me realize how uncreative human beings are at conceiving

what alien life forms could be. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, this fish glows in the dark. Yeah, you probably didn't think, you know, an alien could do that. This fish only exists in the infrared spectrum. How the fuck did an angler fish develop?

How the fuck did that fish develop that has a fishing rod? It has a fishing rod and a lure. It dangles a little lure, and as the thing comes close, their fucking giant maw opens up and sucks the fish in. It's amazing. Because it was created by some alien point and clicks. You know what I mean? We are just their simulator.

And he's like, let's try this, a fish with a fucking lure on his head and see where that goes. There's this guy who's a chess master and he's a brilliant guy who plays blindfolded chess against multiple opponents, this Australian guy. And he's also a creationist. It's really a fascinating thing to see

because he's obviously a super, super brilliant guy. And somebody posted this interview with this guy where he was talking about how there's what science doesn't account for, what evolution doesn't account for, how does a carbon molecule become a person. Right. And their idea, it's like this idea of the soul and all these different, the complexity is too hard for them to grasp so it must be magic right it gets to some weird in due time science will help us perceive what we have to label as magic right now and maybe maybe maybe not i mean maybe

that's the question we're not supposed to ever answer maybe we'll get to a certain point where we realize oh no there is some sort of an inner code that's inescapable that that permeates the entire universe you know whatever it's string theory or whatever the fuck it is they they find some frequency at the center of all that you know accepts love and rejects negativity like the hitler video and that contact signal yes no no no it'd be different than that yeah they heard the signal and they're like and then the blind dude was like dude i hear video and then they put it up to a monitor and it was hitler and then it's like there's more this is interlaced information and then they heard the signal and they're like and then the blind dude was like dude I hear video and then they put it up to a monitor and it was Hitler

and then it was like there's more this is interlaced there's information in there and then they had the blueprints on how to build the travel thing it's exactly like that that was a fascinating movie

wasn't it the book was way better was it I never read the book the book was way better Carl Sagan was a bad motherfucker by the way massive pothead

for those of you who hate weed Carl Sagan huge pothead Carl Sagan smoked weed every fucking day weed is just a placebo. You see Dr. Drew was talking about you on the Conan O'Brien

show, which is cool by the way that not only has the California Association backed up medical marijuana, but Dr. Drew was on Conan being asked, do you back up medical marijuana? What did he say? He says, well I get a lot of slack from Joe Rogan about this.

Well, the reason why is because he started talking on his crazy CNN show about how marijuana is much stronger than it was back in the day and how there's dangerous withdrawal symptoms. And I'm like, come on, man. Did he clarify that it might be purely psychological? This is what I've always said. i don't know how your body works but i'm pretty sure that if weed got you it's because we'd got there first well and if it wasn't weed that you got addicted to it could have been cheese burgers or scratch tickets or internet porn whatever plugs that void for you yeah and maybe for some people people, there's people that have extreme physical issues with all

sorts of altered states of consciousness. There's people that literally must drink coffee all day long. They must smoke cigarettes all day long. They are constantly trying to change whatever state. And it could be an imbalance. It could be some sort of an issue that they have. I have witnessed it many times with alcohol. I know certain people with drugs you know i was listening to ron bennington i was listening to ron and fez and ron is a guy who's in the program and he apparently he had a appendix and they wanted to give him pain pills and he was terrified and he's pretty sure he's got his addictions under control but he didn't want to take the chance and uh one of the reasons why is because he had a friend, and this friend, I believe he said, had been sober for 10 fucking years, had been working as a counselor in a place helping people stay sober, stayed up in the Poconos so that he didn't have to go back around the same neighborhood and be around the same people.

He was working it as hard as you could. He's there for 10 years, gets in some sort of an accident, has a back problem, whatever. They put him on some pills. Boom, he's a junkie again. There's some people, man. Absolutely. there's no doubt about it and i would never discount that i would never discount that possibility but what they discount this is my issue with all these dr drew types is that they always have this sort of uh and i love dr true by the way he's a really good guy yeah he's a great guy he's a great guy i really love him as

a person he's a there's nothing wrong with that guy he gets silly sometimes but they discount the positive benefits of it and they make it as if it's a goof they make it as if they go like well listen I'm not going to stop you from smoking pot if you want to smoke pot forget about all the medical uses

because the medical uses are many and they're very varied and they're very real the actual benefits of it for the human race are substantial. They're huge. And they're not something you should just dismiss and diminish because popular opinion is laced with the propaganda from 1930s.

And it has just entwined itself into our culture to the point where people believe all sorts of bullshit and nonsense about what is really an amazing beneficial plant. And maybe you can't handle it. Maybe you don't like it. But to tell me that this thing, this turbocharger for the imagination, this thing that makes you more sensitive, makes you more loving, it makes you more friendly, it makes food taste better, makes sex taste better. It doesn't harm you in any way. You wake up in the morning, you fucking feel great. You don't feel hungover. You telling me that this thing that I take in that does this is bad? I'm telling you it could fix the fucking world i'm telling you it changes consciousness i'm telling you it's a fucking tool man it's a tool like a hammer or a fucking jackhammer or or or a laser beam it's

anything else do you think he fundamentally disagrees with you he needs what the world needs is a shaman they need shaman They need people who have experienced altered states of consciousness and not only know how to navigate them, can talk other people through them and do it on a professional level. What they've done for thousands and thousands of years in the rainforest, we need to apply not just with marijuana, but all the different tools of consciousness, including alcohol. They should have places where they teach you how to drink alcohol.

I enjoy alcohol. I enjoy alcohol. I like it. I like having a shot or two with my friends. It makes me loose. It makes me silly. I start enjoying things a little bit more.

I want to dance. I don't think it's bad, but I think there would be benefit so many fucking people if when you were 19 or 20, they took you to a fucking class where some smart, interesting person

taught you about drinking and gave you some fucking things to think about. Here's what you need to think about. Why don't you write down, how about this? You're a new drinker? Write down on your iPhone every time you have a drink. Is that hard? Send yourself a text message. Send a friend a text message every time you have a drink.

And he has to send you a text message every time he has a drink. So that you get like six, seven drinks in from this guy, you can call him up and go hey bro you should stop drinking you texted me 45 minutes ago and you've had nine drinks what the fuck are you doing who's watching you who's a who's looking out for you who's driving you home you know that's not a bad idea you're teaching social responsibility with what's available teach it's it's social responsibility but it's also shamanism the i got it but do you think dr drew disagrees no no no he doesn't we actually had a podcast yesterday that we went through all the entire stuff that dr drew has said about marijuana all in a row and we ended up with what he said on conan and he he's actually

saying that that one of the biggest things right now is that there's people that get addicted to marijuana marijuana is addictive to people and that. And then if you look at- Well, it's not physically, though, dude. It's addictive like jerking off is addictive. Right, but one of the biggest things right now that's filling a hospital room or hospitals and stuff like that is people freaking out on marijuana and stuff like that. What?

Not one of the biggest things. Filling hospital rooms. People having panic attacks going to hospitals is big. Agreed. Brian's just saying that because that happened to him. He got so high, he had to pull over to the side of the road and call an ambulance. Well, that's not true. That's 100% not true.

Actually, it wasn't high at all when it happened. But here's the thing. Drew has to say this could happen. He has to, as a physician, say that could happen. Well, he's saying that's one of his biggest things that he treats is is medical addict marijuana addiction so what he was saying is that it is addictive to because people do get addictive because he has to deal with it all the time now he's saying he's for medical marijuana he says that that especially now that after this thing but that but to joe's point there it is

addictive to your point though if there was a shaman, whether it's yourself or Dr. Drew or the fucking internet, that said, hey, this can be addictive. Here's what happens. It's either going to be reefer madness or it's the greatest thing ever. I mean, you need a balanced approach. You need to educate people. I think we all know somebody that spends over $40 a day on marijuana. Probably, yeah.

I know a few people that fucking just go to the store and just fucking spend a shitload of money every single day and smokes that money. This is the current study. This current study, they believe that 10% of recreational users will develop problems severe enough to impair their work and relationships. Very simple. Take the money that they would make from taxes from marijuana if it was legal. I've always said if you want to have marijuana legal, just how this you want to give people an incentive make it tax it higher than everything else give it a tax like you did to cigarettes or alcohol right give it a tax and then take a portion of that and use it for treatment centers for these 10 that have wacky fucking genes or

whatever it is right it's not but for most of us, it's not physically addictive. But a lot of people like to escape, man. And they like to escape with video games. And if they don't escape with video games, they like to escape with weed. I've been addicted to things before that aren't addictive, like video games. I've been addicted to playing pool. I've been addicted to working out. I've been addicted to several things in my life that were impulses.

Masturbation. I've had moments in my life, especially when I was a young man, where you'd masturbate. Have you ever done that? Masturbate. You're not even horny. Meanwhile, you're beating off for the third or fourth time in the day. You're like, what the fuck is wrong with me? There's a difference, I think, between when you have a fucked up life and you don't have

discipline and you don't have the ability to be objective about your body like the ability to be objective about your body you'd be ability to be objective about your mind how much organization have you done do you do meditation do you do any self reflecting time where you sit down and look at your whole life as a right well if you don't then sometimes you get washed up in some crazy wave of momentum and then you become obsessive with things at least me i i find myself my most vulnerable when the rest of my life is out of order and chaotic when the rest of my life is like a bunch of shit that i'm not dealing with and right fucking bills i'm not

paying and all that that's when i'll find myself beaten off three times a day that's when i'll find myself can't walk away from the computer because i want to fucking play video games online all do you smoke more during those periods though or no? I don't do any of that anymore. And all this was back before I even smoked weed. And you don't even smoke weed anymore. Yeah, I stopped. Right. Stopped so I can have guns.

Keep those guns. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I want to keep my guns. I made a decision. Cunt. Cunt fucking government, you cunt. Yeah, when I actually got pulled over. You bitches.

I love the good ones. Don't get me wrong. I love the good cots. Joe, when I got- I love the good cops. When I pulled over, that wasn ones. Don't get me wrong. I love the good cops. I love the good cops. When I pulled over, that wasn't actually weed. That was caffeine. That was from energy drinks. That was the gay climbing out of every pore in your body.

Like the center was a nuclear reactor and it was melting down. And the gay was just blasting out of all your skin pores. And you were twitching and shaking. And you had to call the cops. How many energy drinks did you have? I had one of those big Mountain Dew.

I don't even think they make them anymore. It's humongous Mountain Dew super energy drinks. You had a bucket of energy drink with a straw in it.

And I hadn't eaten all day and my heart started double jumping. We had a girl at our E3 booth. We had these booth models we were sponsored by. First of all,

fuck yeah, continue. And they were all smoking hot. This is not even a mildly attractive girl there. No. E3 is ridiculous. And there are some really hot nerd chicks there that really are into that shit that looks smoking hot.

What is hotter than a hot chick with a hot body and glasses? I don't know what it is, man. That's that Sarah Palin thing. You got her glasses, girl? I love her. She's great. She's got some vision impairment. No, she was a GameStop manager.

Like that level of nerdery. Nerds is nerds hot yeah and plays professor layton and cosplays yeah yeah my girlfriend she works crushing this girl yeah there you go gotta get him to work out this is very important some girls are great when they're like 21 22 23 and then 24 it starts like becoming gelatinous and gives out and that's so sad you can keep i it going. That's why 19 is the cut-off point. We need to find out what the fuck Halle Berry's doing because that bitch is 45 and she's hot as shit. Do you think there's a lot of lasers and surgery and scissors?

I think it's a lot of health and exercise. But she's also crazy. I haven't seen her in person. Have you seen Demi Moore lately? No. They showed a picture of her yesterday where she looks like a skeleton.

What? And she just looks like whatever magic she was using for the last 20 years and just wore off. It finally caught up. Yeah.

She's like, this is going to take more mana, but fuck it, I'm going to cast this sexy spell. Run, run, run to the castle.

Her arms look like Charlie Sheen's penis now if you look at her. You can't blame Ashton Kutcher. Ashton ran. You can't blame Ashton for going out and getting some on the castle. Her arms look like Charlie Sheen's penis now, if you look at them. You can't blame Ashton Kutcher. Ashton ran. You can't blame Ashton for going out and getting someone on the side. You can't.

I heard that they had an open relationship, though. It could have. That was totally loud, but he just picked women that were being vocal about it. He was like, I can't do this anymore now. Well, let me see how I can phrase this. I have a friend, and this friend may or may not have worked on the movie G.I. Jane

And you know that movie This friend who may or may not have worked on this May or may not have had Demi Moore Grab his cock one night Ted Danson? No, but good try So if that was possible If that was real

Yes, I think that might very well It was a two way street Were they together in G.I. Jane no that was Bruce Willis Bruce Willis that's probably how she was there's a lot of people

that roll that way they just roll that way especially in the acting community you know people think that oh they're no different than us many of them know

but many of them they've grown up in these weird fucking showbiz super self indulgent circles and you know many of them just you know they're kind of they do drugs and they embrace different lifestyles and you know

i have you ever done the open relationship thing or the swinger thing or anything so you tried it no i've never tried it here's i mean obviously i've been in situations where i didn't want to be settled down i mean right you know and i said look i don't want to be settled down. And I said, look, I don't want to be in a relationship. But I've never been in like... Ari Shaffir. Yeah. We have a buddy, Ari Shaffir, who was in an open marriage. And his wife would go on dates

and then come home and talk about how guys fucked her and stuff. He should really do material on that. Why doesn't he do material on that? Yeah, he's weird about that, right? Yeah, I don't think... Maybe he doesn't want the world to know. Oops! Well, there's that. Oopsies!

We were talking about Ted Danson. Yeah, not Ari Shaffir. That guy who looks like Ari Shaffir. Was he getting off to it? No, no. No, it eventually didn't work. I don't know, man. You'd have to ask him about that.

I don't want to say. I already said too much, as it is. I think he's said it before. Yeah, he has said it before. I wouldn't have said it if he hadn't said it. But he's crazy. Ari's crazy. Ari's a wild motherfucker, though. Ari will... What makes you say it's too hard, though, just out of curiosity?

Well, I think... Compartmentalizing certain emotions? For men, I think it's... Look, legitimately, some people believe that that's how human beings existed a long time ago. That that's the mushroom orgies. The idea of these orgiastic groups of free sex monkeys that existed millions of years ago. McKenna had that whole thing that he believed that, and it really, the idea behind it is that at one point in time, mushrooms were a huge part of human diets

and they were part of all these rituals and people would get together and eat them and they would have these orgies and have all these parties and have a good time. And that slowly but surely, the climate changed, the mushrooms became more and more rare and they were hoarded by the elites and then they were also kept from other people.

And then there's sort of this orgiastic communal society that we had, this matriarchal society, by the way, that worshipped the mother and worshipped the mother earth, which mushrooms sort of tend to put you in tune with that frequency. Absolutely, yeah. That all dissolved as climate changed. And he actually documents it down to them taking mushrooms and putting them in honey and that the honey became psychoactive as well because honey, when it ferments, becomes mead. And then you have a completely polar opposite society. You have an alcohol-based society. Wow. Which inflates the ego. Right.

And it diminishes objectivity and self-awareness. Sure. And diminishes the feelings of connectivity. What was that, dude? Oh, that was the 10-minute warning for that. The shot clock? Was it? Yeah.

You have a 10-minute warning? Yeah. All right. Well, let's fucking wrap this bitch up. Let's bring this motherfucker home. We've covered just about everything. Kevin Pereira. So good to see you again, man.

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We're doing a show at the Ice House. It's a tiny-ass room. I got a tweet from some dude who's flying in from 1,500 miles away. yeah yeah we have two shows eight and ten too yeah it's a it's a great room it's a it's a tiny 85 seat room and the fucking show is outstanding it's me brendan walsh little esther al madrigal uh fucking josh mcdermott josh mcdermott who's hilarious it's a great great show and it's we're gonna do a lot of these and we hilarious it's a great great show and we're going to do a lot of these and we're going to

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Doug.com. Not dig, but Doug. D-U-G-G-E-D. What that does is open this up, Amazon. And if you ever want to buy anything from Amazon, anything you buy from there. I thought they made that illegal in California. They just brought it back. Amazon just brought it back for me. Really? What do you mean?

So they overturned the law? They did something, yes. Amazon had this associates account, and they pretty much got rid of it. When did it come back? It just came back two weeks ago. Really? I didn't hear about this. I didn't hear.

That made me angry. Just like I get angry about internet gambling. That's another. I don't want to get angry. This is the end of the fucking show. I'm positive. Positive, ladies and gentlemen. Doug.com.

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