The Joe Rogan Experience - #1495 - Kyle Dunnigan

Episode Date: June 19, 2020

Kyle Dunnigan is a writer, actor and comedian. Check out his hilarious Instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/kyledunnigan1/ ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Kyle Dunnigan smoking marijuana. This is dangerous. You're gonna go crazy. You think? Yes. Don't you watch those movies? I forgot about that. Yeah, pot drugs will make you crazy. They'll make you nuts. Are you talking about those old videos, the old-timey black and white where they literally have- Reefer Madness. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know where those are funded by? Who? William Randolph Hearst. Is that right? Yeah, that piece of shit. He was a piece of shit, right? Rosebud. Yeah. And his daughter brought a gun into a bank.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Wow. Why? Maybe she wanted to protect her money. She's rich as fuck. It's not like she's robbing the place. Do I have the wrong person? Patty Hearst. Patty Hearst.
Starting point is 00:00:36 That's right. Yeah, must be related, right? What is she, the granddaughter? I think she's the granddaughter because she's too young to be the daughter. I like that we have no information. We have none. Let's go with it. but let's broadcast it to millions Write this down kids
Starting point is 00:00:49 Yeah, well Patty Hearst. Yeah, that's right. Well William Randolph Hearst is also the reason why there's wild pigs in California How's that because that asshole brought them to his ranch? He wanted to have a menagerie. I think that's the correct term. Menagerie of animals. He's a nutty person. You could visit Hearst Castle. It's this crazy place. Yeah. Yeah. I want to go there. So Northern California has kind of an infestation of wild pigs and it's because
Starting point is 00:01:15 directly because of William Randolph Hearst. Really? The pigs that left his compound just started fucking and running through the woods like, there it is. That's the place. I feel like you could solve that. The bow and arrow. No, it's very hard to solve. Wild pigs are the hardest animal to solve in terms of, like, invasive species.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Because they fuck like crazy. And they breed, like, three times a year. So one pig can have, like, three litters in a year. So pigs love to fuck. They love it. I've always said that. They're dirty pigs. There's something in Hawaii year. Pigs love to fuck. They love it. I've always said that. They're dirty pigs. There's something in Hawaii where they had some infestation and they brought in this other animal to get it, but they brought the wrong animal.
Starting point is 00:01:52 And then that became the infestation. Again, something I don't have enough information about. Yeah, I think you're incorrect about that. Because for something that could kill pigs, it would have to be a big predator, like a cat. Oh, no, this wasn't pigs. This was like a different infestation. okay it was slowly slightly related to your story well i know they did that in australia australia fucked themselves up hardcore they brought in animals to kill animals and those
Starting point is 00:02:17 animals wound up running amok and killing everything that's what always seems to happen yeah they brought in cats like house cats they have an infestation of wild house cats in australia that's kind of cute though i mean it's better than but it's sick because bow hunters are like paid to hunt cats like people are paid bounties for house cats so in australian hunting magazines you'll see guys holding up a house cat what do you get per cat i don't think you get a lot i can't think you can't live off like your cat i think it's like yeah i don't think it's not like beaver pelts or anything like that where it's really valuable how high is this gonna make i gotta stop we're already gone we're already gone really i hit it four times man i'm already not starting off with a lot of iq points i can't come down further points
Starting point is 00:02:59 we're spitting facts son yeah yeah about wild Yeah. About wild animals. Fucking wild cats. You're the one who told me about the mustard weed. And once you said that, I can't not see mustard weed. Isn't that crazy? I think it came from Russia. That crazy, beautiful, yellow weed
Starting point is 00:03:14 that covers the hills in California. It's really pretty. It looks awesome. I thought it was pretty until you told me it was a weed. Now I think it looks gross.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Isn't that weird? You call one plant one thing, another plant. It's a fucking plant. We're really racist really racist with plants we are we're planists you know we're planists so if you see like a beautiful green grass but it's got some weird like daisies popping up people get mad at those daisies they're nice fucking daisies ruining my grass they'll go pluck them rip them out of their life fuck you you're not what i want yeah they're very i have a bunch
Starting point is 00:03:45 what's that they want uniform just all the grass all right right isn't that a weird thing that we do a lawn is a weird thing how so we're controlling nature on a large scale in our own community our own little yard we have a little spot and we lock it down we want that grass nice yeah want that grass nice and cut and clean. It's a thing. People sit back. What is happening with grass? When you see grass, why does it make you feel so good? I don't play golf, but I feel good when I see a golf course.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I see all that green. I'm like, oh, that's nice. I guess it is. It's uniform. You can walk on it. There's no danger. It's nice for your feet. But it's also you controlled that shit. Men took that grass and bend it to their will.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah, that feels good. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you. Yeah, fuck you. Only grass. Fuck you, trees. You ever go weeding?
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah, fuck trees. People chop trees down. Fuck off, tree. Yeah. I don't want you there. That's a manless job, the lumberjack. Oh, for sure. How many chick lumberjacks are there?
Starting point is 00:04:48 Three. Those got to be the toughest women on the planet. Lumberjack chicks? It's like female MMA fighters, like Amanda Nunes and then lumberjack chicks. After the chainsaw, though, it's a little bit like... It's still, it's dangerous as fuck. Yeah. You got to do it right.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Things go wrong all the time. People get hit with with trees we've talked about everything i don't know anything about me too i don't know what i'm talking about maybe people never get hit by trees i'm pretty sure they do though i think it's actually pretty safe it turns out lumberjacks never die they live older than everybody no i think they think they die all the time i think well i just they're if you see a fucking tree, like a big ass oak tree, my God, that's a lot of weight. Yeah. That thing could crush you so easy.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Oh, yeah. If you fuck up and it takes a bounce and it hits somebody, or, I mean, I don't know how you chop trees down, but you're just dealing with so much weight. Yeah, yeah. I could imagine, like, if someone fucked, like, if you don't know what you're doing, you're an asshole and you just bought a plot of land, I'm going to be a farmer, and you start fucking chopping down trees by yourself. Yeah could kill yourself easy you gotta do the wedge i know what i'm talking about all right i don't know what i'm talking about either but they do
Starting point is 00:05:53 have a method to it but but i wonder how many women that would be a crazy reality show they probably have already done it female lumberjacks yeah they had that lumber They do that weird thing where they climb a pole real quick They do lumberjack Contests Yeah I remember those You run on a log Yeah yeah in the water That comes up a lot when you're crossing the stream
Starting point is 00:06:15 It's a lumberjill Is that what they call them? Oh okay I don't need to be disrespectful I just talk a lot of shit Not a lot of guys wanting the lumberjill Calendar you know right right Oh there they are some big-ass women Big strong women that'll fuck you up. You like a strong woman Joe. Yeah, a big can't carry things
Starting point is 00:06:42 Oh, yeah, she said that are throwing axes and shit. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's a tough stock. If you wanted to make like a warrior child, you'd find one of them women. Yeah, they can get through a winter. Hell, yeah. Yeah, they can walk to the road. Did you find a Lumberjill TV show?
Starting point is 00:07:01 I think he did. See, we just took a guess and there's a fucking show about it. There's a show about everything. There's a fun game you can play where try to name and come up with an app that doesn't exist. And it's actually really hard. Oh, my God. I would imagine there's a bunch of wizards, really smart kids, sitting around trying to do that right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I didn't take the picture with the sword. Is that at the end? You can take a picture with a sword. Awesome. And don't you have this whiskey you give everybody? Do you want some whiskey? Is this too much?
Starting point is 00:07:30 No. Sure. No. Come on, Kyle. A little bit. I haven't seen you in forever, man. I know.
Starting point is 00:07:34 With the Comedy Store embargo, it's just beautiful to be in the room with you. I know. It actually is really nice to be with humans. Oh, it's so nice to be with comics.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yeah. Like, Doug Stanhope said this best, and I quote him all the time, but it really is a great quote. He said, I could quit comedy, but I couldn't quit comics. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Yeah. When I'm around normies.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Normies. Normies. Normies. Like I started dating. This was my big year to date. I'm like, because I've been focusing on my career stuff, whatever. And I'm like, I'm going to date in 2020. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:05 This is my big year. And then the COVID. Yeah. But I got an app and I met a couple of girls I was chatting with. Bored out of my, I mean, sweet, nice people. But just when you don't know someone, it's not even having to do with it being a comic. It's like, if you've never met them, you're not, you know, hooking up and having dinners, whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Just to talk to a stranger on the phone about their cat. It's, I had to end all that. Some people don't know what it sounds like when they talk. Yeah. They just drone on and they don't seem to know. Yeah. And you're like, oh my God, you're killing me. You're not even paying attention to that.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I'm not, I can't take what you're saying. Yeah. Read the room. You just blah, blah, blah, blah. Some people just have some shit in their head and they're going to get it out. They're going to vomit it out onto your ears. It's abuse. Does it feel like abuse?
Starting point is 00:08:51 It doesn't matter how long it takes. Yeah. It's all coming out. And they're going to repeat themselves and they're going to like make a big deal out of shit that's not a big deal. And you're going to want to run through a fucking wall. Yeah. But you got to listen to all that nonsense.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Why is it so maddening? It feels like your life is passing you by and you're dying. It is maddening, but the good thing is what it really does, I'm a bright side of the... What's that expression? The bright side of the coin, I believe it is.
Starting point is 00:09:16 That's not a real expression. I mixed up my expressions. The glasses came down. I'm a glass half full person. A glass half full of coins. I don't know. This glasses came down. I'm a glass half full person. A glass half full of coins. I don't know. This is the good stuff, right? This is good stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Buffalo trace. Someone's got to put a little cap on me. Dude, I'm so hot. I forgot what we were talking about. No, I feel bad for any listener. We want to make a public apology. Yeah, already we fucked this thing up. We're both having trouble thinking.
Starting point is 00:09:43 To 2020. To 2021. The greatest year of all. What do they call it? A mulligan? Those dudes who play golf? Oh, do you get another one? What's a mulligan mean? You get a do-over. Hey, let's just scratch this whole year. That'd be great. I like to toast to things people don't agree with.
Starting point is 00:10:00 At the last minute, they've already committed, and you're just like, to 9-11! And they've already clinked. How rude. I know. I think there's going to be a11. And then you've already clinked. How rude. I know. I think there's going to be a lot of good that comes out of this year. I really do. I like talking about positive stuff. What are you thinking?
Starting point is 00:10:19 Well, I think people are realizing that society and civilization hangs on by a thread in some cases. And when a series of events can happen, it can derail our life radically. And I don't think people were really aware that that was possible before. I think there's a lot of things going on. There's a lot of competing mindsets and competing ideologies. And there's a lot of anger going on in the world right now. And then there's this fucking fear that comes with a pandemic. Pandemics ramp up everything. This is how you have to think about it. We're thinking about it as with a pandemic everything like pandemics ramp up everything like this is how you have to think about it we're thinking about it as just a pandemic but it's also a there's a mind
Starting point is 00:10:50 disease like a fear disease that's sweeping through the land too right and i feel like it's like like your your your resources are being used up in so many different directions that it's like you're a little overrun it's one of the reasons why people are reacting so violently to things lately there's everything is just ramped up and i feel like there's there's like a certain level of other things that you can tolerate in your life when you have so many things compounding and piling on top of each other it's like the reason why they say that people get road rage is because it's not just you're in a car and someone does something stupid. But your senses are heightened because you know you're going 60 miles an hour. So you're very aware.
Starting point is 00:11:35 It's a very different feeling. I didn't even consider that when I first heard about it. I thought road rage is just people being a pussy. Like you're being mean while you're locked in this little box because you know you can't nobody can say anything to you yeah but it's not just that it's fear like because you're fucking driving fast and it's like if everybody fucks up if someone's texting you're going into your lane yeah you could die so because of that because we have this in our head it causes us to be like extra ramped up and i think that's how we are right now with everything because of COVID,
Starting point is 00:12:05 even if you don't have COVID, even if you're not worried about COVID, what it's done is it's made everybody ramp up. So everybody's almost got road rage. So everybody is like a little bit more stressed out than they've ever been before, a little bit more ramped up and everything gets exaggerated and everything gets blown out.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And there's so many more instances of scary things that you're being seen in the news. And so few instances of of scary things that you're being seen in the news. And so few instances of really nice things. Yeah. And it's like, fuck, what a weird combination of things to, to try to manage.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. I, I've never raged before in my life, like screamed and raged. And then when this thing happened, I, it was, it took me where I had a few times where I raged.
Starting point is 00:12:43 It's understandable. It's totally understandable. Yeah, but it's totally understandable. I mean, we're all expected to manage our energy and our anxiety. And we're expected to do it perfectly. We're expected to be exactly who we were four or five months ago before all this shit happened. I think that's crazy. I think people are under like mad fucking weird stress that we've never experienced before. The economic stress, the stress of the
Starting point is 00:13:10 virus. I think we just need to fucking make a collective global effort, a collected effort to just be nicer to each other. I think it's possible. I think we can realize that, yeah, look what can happen. Look how sideways everything can get. We just get lost and go in the woods. Or let's work together. What do you want? Don't you want nice neighbors? I want nice neighbors.
Starting point is 00:13:33 So if I want nice neighbors, don't I want a whole nice city? Don't I want a whole nice community? Don't I want a whole nice country? Why is that impossible? It feels like people aren't communicating well recently. I think some people are trying. Some people are trying. It's just that it's hard to do.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Like, there's too much of our time is spent communicating on, like, social media stuff. It's too much time. Yeah. It's like it's too one-dimensional, and it's too frequent. So it's too many interactions where you're not getting, like, real human feedback. You're not getting real love. You're not getting real human feedback. You're not getting real love. You're not getting real friendship.
Starting point is 00:14:09 You're talking just to the ether. You're typing things into glass, and you know on the other end someone's going to interpret it. Yeah. But it's just the worst way to communicate, and that's most of what people are doing today. So the most ineffective, unemotional, unconnecting way to communicate is the most common. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And that's why we're acting like fucking nuts. That's part of it. Do you think we can back off that? Yes. How do you back off that? You've got to get a flip phone. That's been the problem the whole time. We've got to get flip phones.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Flip phones just have to get better text recognition software or voice-to-text recognition software so you can just talk your messages into a flip phone. So all anybody can do is text you and call you. Just leave me off of everything else. Oh, God. Just come on. Yeah, group text. People are just too worked up.
Starting point is 00:14:58 They're too worked up about everything. Some things they should be worked up about, but the problem is there's no balance because it's almost all the stuff that they're angry about, because that's what they want to text and tweet and Facebook about, and very little of the stuff. What's the ratio of really cool stories that make you feel good
Starting point is 00:15:15 to another horror in the news? What's the ratio? 90-something to one. 90-something to one. There's a new one. There's a cloud of dust that's coming from Africa across the fucking ocean. It's going to wipe us out. Really? This year is like the devil scripted this entire year.
Starting point is 00:15:32 What does this do? African dust. I don't know, man. I didn't know dust could fly that far, all the way across the ocean. Isn't that crazy? Where is it right now? Now this is something I've got to... We're at DEFCON 5 or some shit.
Starting point is 00:15:44 What happens? I don't know. I don't know. I just read it. I was like, oh my God. And they said Yellowstone's ready to blow. That scares me the most. The most.
Starting point is 00:15:54 The most. We're pretending. We're over here pretending that this is all permanent. It happens a few times a year. Does it really? It's fairly common. But what does it do? Is this blown out of proportion for the news?
Starting point is 00:16:06 I think just the headline sounds crazy. The headline sounds terrible. The one I found says it's a silver lining, so it's actually maybe a good thing. It signifies a very dry layer in the atmosphere. And hurricanes don't like dry air. So why protect against hurricanes? Oh, well that's good.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Oh, see? We jumped the gun. That sounds like a great Okay. Oh, see? We jumped the gun. That was a great story. How about that? How about hurricanes? How about the fact that every fucking year the sky becomes a monster and eats people? Fucking throws cars through the air and shit. Every year it happens. And it's getting worse, right?
Starting point is 00:16:41 And the fire's getting worse, right? See, they say that, and it makes sense that it's getting worse, right? And the fire's getting worse, right? See, they say that, and it makes sense that it's getting worse. And this is not an excuse for the carbon emissions. This makes it sound way worse. Oh, my God. An enormous cloud of dust from Africa's Sahara appears to be heading for Texas, Louisiana, and Florida. It's like it's a missile. And then they show a dust storm, like taking over a city.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Oh, my God. Is that really what it was like? I don't think so. I mean, that's not what the other article I just read. Show that video though. What does it say? Massive dust storm turns the sky red in Sundanese capital. Somewhere way far.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Oh my God, man. Look at that. That was in Mission Impossible 4, I think. Was it? Yeah. He was on that sky rise. He got caught in the dust storm? And that was coming, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Dude, imagine living there and seeing that coming. You're like, oh my God, I'm'm gonna be breathing dirt for the next hour like how long does it last? How long is a dust storm last do you imagine living there man? You gotta go to the grocery store, and you're literally walking through a dust storm So you dressed like one of them dudes from the lord of the rings right right you just fucking scarfed across your face like no the guys in star wars what are they called the the ones who lived like in the dirt and then yeah the um the sand people sand people yeah i don't i think that was the name there's also the little one you have the little ones yeah there was a
Starting point is 00:18:00 bunch of them those were the ah damn it but people. No, Ewoks were the fluffy ones. But who were the sand people? The Tusken Raiders. Yeah, maybe that's it. Yeah. The Tusken Raiders. I think that's it. They're called Jawas.
Starting point is 00:18:13 They're called Jawas. Are they? Yes. That sounds right. I believe you. I'm going to go with Jawa. I believe you. I think we should do a whole podcast of things we kind of know about.
Starting point is 00:18:24 So far, we're killing it. We're already doing it. We're already doing it. I don't think, man. I mean, look, there's no way that the weather just stays the same. It doesn't stay the same. It's never stayed the same. It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:18:35 But we have to listen to climatologists. A hundred percent. Yeah, a hundred percent. I don't know why it drives me nuts, but I just. But this is my point of view, legitimately. We have a bigger concern one of the bigger concerns is we're not prepared if anything goes sideways and that's what we're finding from this covet thing we're not really prepared if things go sideways yeah and uh we
Starting point is 00:18:55 definitely should be protecting against the human impact on the climate change it It's real. We really have fucked up the earth. However, even if we didn't fuck it up, this place is so unstable. Even if it wasn't us, the asteroids, the hurricanes that just exist and have always existed, earthquakes. We just don't live long enough to see enough of these to be scared of them. Because. Because our lives are so fucking short. Yeah. And the life of the earth is so long that all these tectonic plates, like when we go to a mountain, like, wow, that's really pretty. Look what happened. It's alive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:33 That thing's moving right now. There's lava under it. If you saw like 10,000 years a second, you would just see the whole earth. Just boom, boom, and oceans come in and out. And it's constantly doing that. It's always done that. We definitely should stop fucking up the world that we're living in, the world that we exist in.
Starting point is 00:19:52 But even if we didn't, this is so dangerous. This whole place is covered with predators. We are just super lucky we killed most of them off and boxed ourselves away. Except for those pigs. And some people forgot. Except for those pigs. We've got to figure out that asteroid. We're not looking at enough of the sky.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I think we're looking at 3%. Dude, and you get different answers from different folks when you ask them how long it would take before they could deflect something. I'll forget. I think Neil deGrasse Tyson, what did he say? 10 years? Do you remember? You've got to figure out how you're going to do it. Jesus Louises, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:24 If it's too big, there's nothing you can do. If it's too Jesus, Louie, this is bro. Jesus, Louie. If it's too big, there's nothing you can do. If it's too big, there's nothing you can do. But I don't know. We could get just you have one week to live. Just could come on the news today. We just saw this asteroid. They said the Mayan calendar is supposed to technically end next week.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Oh, Jesus Christ. That thing always comes up, though, and it's never anything. You know what shocks me is when you have the leader of a cult, and they have Doomsday, and they have the date and the time, and they all go outside, and they sing, and it doesn't happen. And then that guy convinces them to stay, and he goes, no, it's a different day. Yes. And they all just...
Starting point is 00:20:57 There was a guy who was taking out billboards. There was a billboard in Woodland Hills on Ventura Boulevard, and it had this fucking billboard, and he had a bunch of them all over the place. But he had this billboard that showed the very day the Earth was going to end. It was like it had a date on it. Do you remember it? I don't. I want to say it was like somewhere around April or May. Scientist says reading Mayan calendar predicts end of the world this week.
Starting point is 00:21:24 The 21st is what they said. Oh, okay. Whatever. That's horseshit. That's the New York Post, bro. I'm listening a little bit. They're trolling you. The Post is trolling you, son.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I like that we listen to people who just put leeches on people to cure their own things. Yeah, it was according to the sun, actually. It's even better. You know what, man? Oh, the sun. They did have a weird culture. The Mayans had a weird culture. I don't know much about it.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I know the temple. Didn't they kill virgins? I don't think they killed – well, who knows? This is great. I don't know about this topic. I don't know if they really know what exact people they killed. They killed a lot of people. But what's really interesting is how beautiful their structures were, like these amazing structures.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I thought one of – their pyramid, like those big steps. I thought one of their pyramid, like those big steps. I thought one of them was for murder for their crops. They've speculated that there were certain platforms that they would do sacrifices on. The Aztecs did, I think, the most sacrifices in one day. Or it was like a couple of days. They killed somewhere around, I want to say, I want to say more than 80,000 people. They sacrificed.
Starting point is 00:22:32 What? Yeah. When they completed this, one of the temples. How do you kill that many people? Did they bury them or something? They just killed them one after another. That takes a long time. Yeah, the victims of human sacrifice by Mexico's ancient Mayans who threw children into water-filled caverns were likely boys and young men, not virgin girls as previously believed.
Starting point is 00:22:55 So, wow. They would human sacrifice by throwing children into water-filled caverns. I could see how that could help though. They drown kids. Can you imagine that? You believe in superstition so much you want to drown a kid so that the crops come back.
Starting point is 00:23:11 That's a sign people feeling out of control. They don't know the answers to something. They can't figure out. But how crazy is it that people in almost all religions, especially the ancient ones, they lean towards these really ridiculous things like
Starting point is 00:23:28 that. Whose sacrifice brings that up? What if we do this? Kill our kids. Make a sacrifice, like Cain and Abel, right? And if your God wanted that, your God wanted you to kill your children, that's a
Starting point is 00:23:43 horrible God that you're... Or how about your God tells you to kill somebody children that's a horrible god that you're or how about your god tells you to kill somebody when you're about to he says no stop i was just testing yeah that's a fucked up story i mean that is people don't people act like that's a normal story that's the god that makes the universe told you to murder somebody and since you said yes you did the right thing by saying yes because you have to trust god Even if God tells you something that you can't imagine is real. Right. Even if you know in your gut it's wrong to murder your kid. You have to murder your kid because God's telling you to.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And you were about to. And you're like, okay, good. I was just checking, bro. Hot, hot, hot, hot, hot. I like you now. I was just checking, bro. That's the biggest bully asshole. Metzger is actually a religious genius.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah. He knows a lot about religion. He's really smart. He gave me a much better understanding of the story. I think his name is Elisha. These kids were yelling at him, and they called him Bald Head. He was a bald guy. And so he asked God to sic a she-bear on the kids, and it killed like 40 kids.
Starting point is 00:24:47 A she-bear. I wish I could remember exactly what Metzger, how he explained it to me. But the insult was much worse than just calling him bald head. You just have to put it into perspective with the time. Like the way he was saying it to him was much worse than we would imagine The term would be we're looking at it in terms of modern language But I'm like still the guy said God sicked a bear on these fucking kids I think mister was saying that it might might have meant that they actually were trying to kill the man
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah from there Elisha went to Bethel as he was walking along the road, some boys came out of town and jeered at him. Get out here, Baldy. They said, get out of here, Baldy. He turned around and looked at the, okay, the curse. I think that's a real weird translation. I don't think that's the best translation. The way I've heard it before is not written exactly that way.
Starting point is 00:25:42 They have more than one translation? Yeah, tons of translations. He turned around, looked at them, and called down a curse on them. In the name of the Lord, the two bears came out of the woods and mauled 42 of the boys. I got a bear story.
Starting point is 00:25:56 It seemed, when I heard it before, God, maybe I'm wrong, but it felt like it was in the ancient way of saying it, and that was what Metzger explained to me. See if there's another way of putting the words together that Metzger was saying. No, they were going to kill him. This is a version that has tons of translations of it.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Holy shit. So there's lots of versions. Unless they were trying to kill the guy. Maybe we're looking at it wrong and they were actually trying to kill the guy. And I think that's one of the things that Metzger was trying to say. Like they were threatening to kill the guy. Maybe we're looking at it wrong and they were actually trying to kill the guy. And I think that's one of the things that Metzger was trying to say. Like they were threatening violence to the guy. Sent a bear. I think two bears.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Does it say two bears? Yeah. It says two female bears, two she bears. Dude. Imagine. Call a dude a baldy and he's six bears on you. Don't fuck with him again. That's rude.
Starting point is 00:26:44 I was in a tent in the woods. Yosemite. And I fuck with him again. That's rude. I was in a tent in the woods. I was at Yosemite. And I was with this girl. I was dating. And before we packed up, the ranger guy was like, hey, don't have any food anywhere tied up in a tree. There's bears. They're coming out of their hibernation. And they're hungry.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Don't even have gum in your pocket. You know what really scared us? We were the little group. And we were kind of laughing that night. We were like, bear. And just try to scare little group and we're kind of laughing that night. Like, whatever. Like, bear. And just try to scare everybody. And then.
Starting point is 00:27:08 It's a horror movie. It is. Yeah. Feel about to get murdered. We're always giggling about something. So we're in the tent and about an hour into sleep. I had brought a knife in my, you know, tent. This fist size snout pushes into the tent, puffs her head.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Like her head went. Then it comes over to the tent, puffs her head. Like her head went poof. Then it comes over to my head, puffs my head. Oh, my God. And I had the thought, oh, this is what terror feels like. Because I'd never felt the emotion before. I'd never actually been terrified to that moment. And we just held each other's hands like really hard.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And just you did everything not to breathe for two hours, just making the smallest amount of air come in your body i have a theory about that i think bears are figuring out that there's meat in those bags i think they figured out that there's like just like just like they find like when bears go to garbage cans yeah you can't you can't scare them off they're always going to keep coming back to that garbage can. Once they go to the garbage can, they become a problem. They have to kidnap them and move them to some sanctuary somewhere. Otherwise, they'd have to euthanize them.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Because once they know where something is, they keep going back. Yeah, they're not scared. Well, bears that have killed people in tents? They keep coming back? They keep coming back to tents. Yeah. We've got to kill those tent bears. I've heard of more than one different story about a predatory black bear attacking people in a tent. And I think is there's less deer in the place.
Starting point is 00:28:33 If there's been a bad climate, there's not enough food. Why don't they attack us more? Do you mean like. Because we have guns. That's the only reason why. And in places where people don't hunt bears, they have way less fear of people. I mean, I think they would want to get us for food immediately. Like, oh, there's some food.
Starting point is 00:28:50 They don't know exactly what we are. We're not a part of their natural world. We only occur every now and then. If you run into a grizzly bear in Alaska, you might be the first person that grizzly bear has ever seen. They might not have any idea what you are. So it's been alive for nine years. It's never seen a person. That's totally possible. You saw a grizzly bear's ever seen. They might not have any idea what you are. So it's been alive for nine years. It's never seen a person. That's totally possible.
Starting point is 00:29:08 You saw Grizzly Man, right? Yes, I did. It's one of the best comedies that wasn't supposed to be a comedy ever. It is so funny. It's wall-to-wall laughs. That scene where he's at the lake and the bears walk up to him and he's going,
Starting point is 00:29:20 no, bad. Someone told me, I don't know if this is true, but the bears could sense there was something wrong with him. That's why they didn't eat him earlier. They thought he was like, he had some sort of mental disease. I don't think those bears up there are that aggressive because there's so much fish. And I think when the fish runs dry, that's when they get real dangerous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And he went and he was there long after they were supposed to be in hibernation. So the one bear that killed him was really hungry it hadn't eaten enough food yeah so it looked at anything and like he was just going to eat everything that was in front of it so it found him and killed him so they were saying you should never be around when those bears are in hibernation if you find one that should be in hibernation and it's not that's a desperate bear oh okay dude fuck that that whole movie is just fuck that like why are you doing that why are you camping where you know the bears walk and he's not saving any bear like he didn't even save these bears he was so crazy yeah sons of bitches where are you where are you tiger king i'm down here he was he was. Very similar type.
Starting point is 00:30:25 If he got together with Tiger King. That'd be a great show. Well, you know what's similar about it? There's something about weird guys that get really connected to murderous animals. There's some sexual. Yeah, some weird shit. Whether it's a tiger or a grizzly bear. I'm here protecting them.
Starting point is 00:30:41 This dude is in Alaska in a paper house, right? He's got a house made out of cloth. And he's laying on top of the ground every night protecting these fucking 1,200-pound wild dog things. Yeah. And he almost got the role of Woody in The Still There I Remember, which is not true. It's not true. No, he's a crazy person. Which is not true.
Starting point is 00:31:02 It's not true. No, he's a crazy person. But he's also a crazy person that found a venue for his crazy. That he did some good, too. And here's one thing that he did that's good, and I'm not being facetious. That movie's brilliant. It's an amazing piece of entertainment. Through that movie, millions of people have been entertained.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I don't think he would have been able to do that without that movie. Absolutely not. It was funnier than Cheers. It was fucking great. In that guy's dying that way, it's a tragic story. It's a lesson to be learned, and it's also hilarious.
Starting point is 00:31:38 He did it on purpose. Werner Herzog's a really smart guy. He made that thing funny on purpose. You think so? When that sheriff looks at the camera and goes, I thought he was retarded. Tell me that wasn't like a scene in a fucking, you know, a Coen Brothers movie. He has that tape. Remember he dangled that tape in front of the poor guy's mother?
Starting point is 00:32:01 He was like, oh, you don't want to listen to this. He kept telling her that. Yeah. Yeah, that was crazy uh when they played the there's an audio apparently of the death it's not available online because werner herzog told him to destroy it and i think he's probably right but it's long man the bear is eating them just they eat them alive that's maybe the worst way to go uh maybe fire i don't the problem with a bear eating your lives i think it takes a long time yeah because they're not gonna kill you
Starting point is 00:32:31 like a tiger would just kill you quick yeah they grab your neck right bears start eating you from your feet down you know they don't give a fuck they just start tearing your tearing your fucking crotch apart while you're alive. Yeah, that and... Dude, do you understand what that would be like to watch a bear eat you dick first? Dick first, do you think? Dick first, a bear just right at your crotch. A big fucking giant bear head
Starting point is 00:33:00 clamped down on your dick and your asshole. And you're going, no! And that's how you die. A lot of people have died that way, man. I guarantee you, how many people got attacked dick first by giant grizzly bears over the course of the last 20,000 years? I bet it would be a staggering number. It would be a shocking number.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It would surprise you. Yeah. You'd be like, why are we keeping these things around? That's one thing California did that's really wise. They exterminated all the grizzly bears. Is that right? I didn't know that. It's on the flag.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Grizzly bears on the flag. There's no grizzly bears here. I didn't know that. They're like, fuck you. You keep eating us. Hey, are you a big camper? Do you go camping? No, I have.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I like rooftop camps, like where you could camp on the rooftop. They have rooftop tents. I have a roof rack on my Land Cruiser. Oh, on top of your car. Yep. Climb up the ladder. I want to get that. That way you're camping, but things aren't just going to fucking crawl up on you.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yeah. You know? I want to get that Cybertruck because that is a great camping situation. Plus, you look like you're in the future. Yeah. Fucking camping in that thing. I fucking. That's some Blade Runner shit.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I love my car in a way that I've never liked something I've bought before. It feels like it's another thing, right? Like it's way better than a car. It is. And it's learning and getting better. And it feels like a child growing up and helping. Yeah, you keep getting these new updates. Yeah, it's like Christmas.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And it drives itself. You can go doo-doo. It just drives itself. It's amazing. Because I bought mine in 2018. And how it's gotten so much better. I mean, they're solving vision, which I think should be bigger news than what it is. And the way they're doing it is brilliant.
Starting point is 00:34:42 People paid the money for them to send out all these fleets and they get all the data, which is what they need, tons and tons of data. And they see stoplights and stop signs now. I kind of watched a video on how they did this. And they send out to the fleet like, hey, send us all your stop signs. And they all come back to this one place and it learns. And I got a stop sign near my house and just a little piece is showing it's covered by bushes and the but the car recognizes it dude just and that's his side job that that's his side job he is the coolest person ever ever on paper on paper i mean in person you know he's uh yeah i think nikola tesla is probably
Starting point is 00:35:29 the most important inventor of all time but nikola tesla i don't think you would think he's cool you know he was just a genius and he was like he was in love with a pigeon like he was really crazy he got really crazy he's a really crazy guy. But brilliant. But had ideas. Elon is like, cool, you can hang out with him. It's super cool. Yeah. He was here smoking one of these. He got in trouble for about 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And then they made money. They bounced back. They lost 6%. Their stock lost 6%. Is that right? Yeah, but it came back 9% the next day. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, people are crazy. He's the greatest CEO.
Starting point is 00:36:06 He's always in the news. But the fact that the Tesla thing is like his side gig is what's most ridiculous. He is the coolest person ever in the history. Also, very important. He's doing very important things. Fuck yeah, man. We would be so far behind if it wasn't for one guy. What would the electric car market look like today if it wasn't for one guy?
Starting point is 00:36:25 Right. And they tried to kill – I mean you just – Yes. I mean it still happens. You get the worst news. Every car crash, Tesla crash on the news. And when there was fires, which there aren't anymore, and there was only like a few, everyone was front page and people thought, don't those cars blow up? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:40 It's like you know how many gasoline cars, fires there were that year? Yeah. it's like you know how many gasoline cars fires there were that year when you saw two anyway I just get the fact that they made such an amazing car and got past all the bullshit that was
Starting point is 00:36:54 coming at him to destroy it he just doesn't listen he's like I'm smarter than you so he just keeps going people ship it he knows what he's doing and he's been right so far we're fucking lucky that guy's around, man. I don't like people giving him shit. I mean, they should be promoting and hiding the fires.
Starting point is 00:37:12 The guy ahead of the board that looks into crashes. I sound like an idiot. What's the name of that board? Anyway, you would think you'd go, oh, I've got this car that's 15 times safer than all my other cars. Let's help this company out. But every, I think they investigate 500 crashes a year, this department. Every Tesla
Starting point is 00:37:34 crash they investigate. He's just on him. And I understand you have to in a way with the self-driving. You have to. But they've not been reckless about that. Well, there's some's some accidents though that are very troubling one of them was a guy slams right into the side of a truck oh i saw that yeah that one didn't even make any sense that one was like how does it not know there's a truck in the road but or does it not know what
Starting point is 00:37:58 to do when a truck is in the road like what happens like a truck tips over what do we do yeah you don't know what to do why are you driving right like that's crazy yeah like it's not ready for you to drive yet if it doesn't know where but they but you are supposed to pay attention yes you are it isn't self-driving yet i think people text and fucking email and shit i've dosed it's not good long drive i went to phoenix it's so bad i had a seven drive, and I was like – but I pulled over. But that car, it's easy to – It's easy to doze. You got to pay attention.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Well, it's just a different kind of thing. It's like you think of what a car is. You think of an engine, and it pumps gas, and you're driving around in it. That thing is like an electronic vehicle. It's not a car. It doesn't make any noise. It's amazing. It looks just like a car, but where's your engine? It's like, where's the rumble?
Starting point is 00:38:49 Where's the stinky gas? It doesn't have any of those things, so it's silent. That's what I noticed. You look back at horses and we're like, how do people stand the stink of shit in New York City? But then when you get an electric car, you go, oh, those other ones, that was poison. I would just get used to it.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And I was like, oh, that's what they have. Yeah, when people just rode horses, this must have smelled terrible. Everywhere, just horse shit everywhere. It'd be like, yeah, I mean, really, right? They'd shit all over the place. If everybody was on a horse. Yeah. But they got to get, we got to get with the new technology because, I mean, them trying to save coal jobs, I get it, and that's a really tough thing, but we got to – we better have training.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I mean, it's like them trying to save the horseshoe guys' business. Like, we're not going that way. Do you know the whole learn to code fiasco online? Well, someone was talking about coal miners and, like, what they could do, you know, if they stopped mining coal. And someone had said, learn to code. Yeah. And then learn to code somehow, I'm probably fucking this up, but became like a bad thing that you couldn't say on Twitter, like an insulting thing that would get you banned from Twitter.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Why? Because learn to code was some sort of an insult. It became some sort of an insult or mocking this idea that these people. So you can't. I mean, it seems like the most innocuous of sentences. Learn to code. Is there anything wrong with learning? No.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Is there anything wrong with learning code? No, there's not. So how come I can't say learn to code? I can't say it because at one point in time it was used to describe this one thing. Now it can kind of become funny. Learn to code. Yeah. I don't say learn to code. I can't say it because at one point in time it was used to describe this one thing. Now it can kind of become funny. Learn to code. Yeah. I don't understand why that's bad.
Starting point is 00:40:31 It seems like good advice. It seems like good advice always, but maybe it's mean to say to these coal miners they should learn to code. I get that. But you could also use that in a lot of different ways. Once someone said learn to code and it sounds good, it's not limited to that one meaning. You could say it as a friend, as a joke. Learn to code. You're not being
Starting point is 00:40:51 an asshole. Your friend is like, my fucking job is so annoying. You're like, learn to code. You should get kicked off Twitter. Yeah, they took the whole phrase by one person saying it. Now that phrase is locked up. I mean, it's an unusual phrase and i know i use it a lot learn to code why can't you say it i don't know but i love teslas there's just
Starting point is 00:41:13 too many breaks being put on what people can and can't say like um i don't know how much of this is legit because i know that google what what is exactly the reason why the Federalist and there was another thing that was, explain how that worked, Jamie, how they were pulled down. They had an issue, it says, with their AdSense. So that's what Google controls is AdSense. Right. The money that you make off of your website clicks, right? with it says zero hedge and federalists both had comment pages I guess that had Adsense on it and there is threats of having it taken away from them and this article says that the federalist bends the knee to big tech and deletes it's
Starting point is 00:41:59 awful comment section so I was trying to read through it to see goes back to what we're talking about earlier it's the worst way to talk to people, just through text. Oh, yeah. It's a perfect example. Comment section on a website or an example of why typing something out in print is the absolute worst way to communicate with people. Yeah. How many times do you think that you could have had like a disagreement with someone through text messages, but in person you could have like come to an agreement pretty easily. All the time. I've run into that problem. I now know not to text if it's
Starting point is 00:42:32 anything that could be taking us on a call. FaceTime is even better just to like see their face. FaceTime is good. A lot of the kids are doing the FaceTime these days. They just FaceTime you out of the blue. Like that's what a lot of people do now. I'm like, okay. I feel very aggressive when someone FaceTimes me. It is, but some guys like it. Yeah. Now with this COVID, I'm getting way more used to it because of all the zooming I'm doing. That's the worry though. The worry is that this separates people even more from the emotional contact that we get.
Starting point is 00:43:01 The emotional interaction we get from an actual human being. We get more and more douchey. What is, what do you get extra? Because I don't know the answer to this. I'm Zooming with you or I'm here now with you. What am I getting extra besides the whiskey and. Being in person with a person, it's a different feeling. Like I know you're right there.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, high five. There you are. We're right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, high five. There you are. We're right there. That's different. I don't think you can get COVID from contact anymore, contacting services. That's a spit in your face. I lost my caring about
Starting point is 00:43:36 any of this, of COVID. In the beginning, I really did care, and I was really scared, and I bought into it, and then I just hit a thing where You called it care fatigue. Care fatigue I got. Is there a word for that? There should be. I think what you just invented it.
Starting point is 00:43:49 That'd be cool if I invented a saying. I think it's care fatigue. Is that a thing? It's probably already. Look, we found the female lumberjack was already a thing. This is probably already a thing too. I'm going to make care fatigue t-shirts. There's an article called compassion fatigue
Starting point is 00:44:02 and there's a compassion fatigue awareness project. That's different. That's different. That's different. My thing's different. But compassion fatigue makes sense, too, because most people, you know, they only have so much to give to other folks. They're busy. Like Kristen Bell, people who was in the video.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah. It's like they really are putting themselves out there and getting really crushed. And if I were them, I mean, after the first text I did that I got blowback, I would be out. Yeah. I think that world, the world of actors and actresses, I think it's very difficult for them to gauge how other people view someone who's really famous who does something like that. Like, you have to understand, I don't think they thought about the skepticism. I don't think they thought about people looking at it very cynically.
Starting point is 00:44:57 I don't think they considered that. I think they only thought, like, they probably talked to their friends, like, we're going to make a difference. We're going to make a difference with this video yeah their friends like you're amazing you're so powerful if anyone can make a difference it's you girl you have the platform use it boom next thing you know they're making this video and they're calling their friends just like the one with gal gadot same thing you call your friends we got this we got this we're gonna cure this people are fucking dropping like flies in italy just falling off balconies and shit.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Imagine there's no heaven. That one. I also feel bad in a way because if someone, your friend asks you to do something, it's hard to say no sometimes. You gotta say no. You gotta tell them, this is how I would make fun of you.
Starting point is 00:45:39 You gotta realize what you're doing is crazy. I understand that the sentiment behind it is great. Yes. They all mean well yes they all mean well they all mean well and for white people when it comes to stuff like that look all white people feel guilty for something they just do yeah because black people used to be slaves so just that just that alone if you did not come from that there's some sort of guilt that you're connected to the ancestors that enslaved those people.
Starting point is 00:46:07 There's something in the back of your head. Yeah. Especially if you're from old family. Like if your family's been in this country for fucking since the 1500s or some shit. Like for sure your family had something to do with slavery. Right. For sure. The white guilt is real.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Real. And it's getting pumped up right now i mean there's videos of uh there's a video guy and he just was joking around this black guy he goes kneel before me and praise like by and she's like kneeling and it's uh yeah there's a bunch of those videos just videos of uh these people kissing this black dude's feet i don't i don't think this is good for black people you know what i mean like Like, what is this? It's fine. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:46:48 If it's just kissing feet and kneeling, we're fine. I'm not the smartest person. Is it good? I think it's great that white people are marching with them, and that seems good. This is what it is, man. Society and people, we're getting better, but we get better like this oh yeah the pendulum we get better in waves like it goes this way and it comes back and right now we're in a crazy period but ultimately i think what's going to come out of it is way less racism we're hitting a new stage of no racism people are always going to judge
Starting point is 00:47:19 people they're going to judge people on everything they're going to judge people based on the language you speak where are you from whether you're short or tall or fat or skinny people just judge people they're always going to judge people but it will become more and more taboo and more and more disgusting to people if you judge people on race now it's like a new blip in the consciousness. It's a more disgusting crime to actually judge people and limit who you think their potential as a human being because they're from Southeast Asia
Starting point is 00:47:54 or they're from Mexico. That's going to become a disgusting trait. Something good can come out of this. Something good will come out of this. It's always been a disgusting trait, but it's it's gonna reach a new level of it yeah not tolerated yeah you're always gonna have some racists you're always gonna have some murderers you're always gonna have some bank thieves yeah they're always gonna exist it's like how but how
Starting point is 00:48:17 do you make it better for everybody you gotta defund the police job that's like yeah that's the best thing but this is it's happening right now. People are getting – I really believe this. The positive side of me says I really feel like we're going to come out of this on the other end friendlier to each other. And we can do that. It's 100% possible. Good. This can be a good thing. The horrors of all this can make us appreciate that things can go sideways.
Starting point is 00:48:43 So the folks who have fortunately survived, we can do better. We just gotta survive that pendulum swing. Yes. Like the Al Franken, the Me Too Al Franken. That was a weird one. Went a little too far on that swing, in my opinion. Oh, that was a weird one. I mean, the worst thing he was accused of is
Starting point is 00:49:00 the way he held a woman while he was taking a photo with her, and then there was the girl who was on the... The girl who was on the plane with him, though. Leanne Tweeden. That's her name, right? Yeah. Yes. Let's go with Leanne Tweeden.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I'm so high. I can't believe I fucked up. I'm not high at all. I have no excuse. She's got the best case. What is her case? Hers is different. There's a photo of him.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Look at that photo. His hands over her breasts while she's sleeping. Like, come on, man. If that was your girlfriend. Yeah, no, that is... But that's when he was a comic. He did something stupid. They were on a comedy tour.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yes, they were on a comedy tour. He did something stupid. And I'm not defending but she's wearing a flack jacket yes he's not touching her but he's pretending he is maybe he thought it was funny maybe she didn't I get it it's I don't know good luck but it's not it's not good I don't he's an evil person no I just think that's a fire he resigned under pressure but I just – I think he's just a smart guy. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Well, that's – he got caught up in that wave. And I think that can happen to folks. I think Sheevan was like I didn't want him to resign. I might – I should stop talking. I'm saying things. You didn't want who to resign? Did you say Sheeva? Yeah, she didn't want Sheeva to resign.
Starting point is 00:50:24 She didn't want him to lose his job over shiva yeah she didn't want shiva to resign she didn't want him to lose his job over that she i think she came out and said yeah i don't think she did either again no information yeah it's you know there's way worse people out there yeah that's what's fucked up when you find like like you know when you hear about a guy like Harvey Weinstein, right? And you realize, like, wow, just the sheer numbers of people he fucked with. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:50:54 Like, there are really people like that out there. Yeah, Cosby. Cosby's one of the greatest comedians. Ever. And even better rapist. In terms of all time. Like, think of the years. See, anybody who says that there's nothing ever funny about rape didn't hear that. Yeah. in terms of all time like think about the years see anybody says
Starting point is 00:51:05 that there's nothing ever funny about rape didn't hear that oh yeah because that was funny and you're not trying to be mean
Starting point is 00:51:12 no I probably will get in trouble though yeah you probably will yeah but it was funny and most people are reasonable and they're gonna understand what
Starting point is 00:51:18 we're doing here I can't get cancelled but and that's not true you can retro get cancelled if you get like a job on a yes show then they come back they come back and read your 2004 tweets remember we said rape was great on Joe Rogan's but that's not true you can retro get cancelled if you get like a job on a yes show then they come back
Starting point is 00:51:26 they come back and read your 2004 tweets remember when you said rape was great on Joe Rogan's mind that's exactly it and I have to say I'm sorry and the goalposts
Starting point is 00:51:35 keep getting moved like things that you could say like readily one of the things I've been doing is I've been watching a lot of Adam Sandler movies yeah
Starting point is 00:51:41 it's funny oh my god man some of them are so funny. Like, Zohan is one of the funniest fucking movies ever. But like, wildly inappropriate. And just even then, like, the things that you can get away with saying then, you can't do now. No.
Starting point is 00:51:56 You know? And Rob Schneider in Adam Sandler's movies, he would play a bunch of different races. All kinds of, he played Asian guys. Yeah. He played all kinds of weird dudes. You barely can do that today. Do you think ever again, will it swing back where people go, yeah, you can do other. Blackface is fine.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Blackface will never be fine. Never be fine. But he apparently was. It was not, I remember the 80s, 90s. It was like not. Not that big a deal. You didn't think like, oh my God, you're- Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Well, obviously black people say that's example or evidence of white people being insensitive. Right. That you don't realize how offensive it is to put on paint to pretend to be like us. I didn't know. I had no idea black people, when they saw someone dressed up as Bill Cosby,
Starting point is 00:52:43 like a white guy we're mad about. I really didn't know. Right. It's well, what's confusing is if you don't have a good sense of history. Yeah. You think of it and you go, well, if I saw a black guy dressed like a white guy, like, well, I give a fuck. Yeah. But then you have to go to like those Al Jolson movies.
Starting point is 00:53:00 That black face was weird. Different. I feel like. Dude, it was cartoonish and strange. And black people couldn't act in movies, so they had white people dress up and put paint on their face so that they look like a black person. To me, it's like, I understand that people think that's offensive. I understand that it's offensive to you. I get it.
Starting point is 00:53:21 But when I watched that, to me, it is fucking fascinating. is fucking fascinating fascinating like almost in a scientific sense like you're looking at a different version of human beings right you're looking at these people that are just really interested in people dancing and running around and doing so with this weird paint on their face that's him dehumanizinghumanizing. So weird, man. So weird. And it was like, they praised him. He went backstage. They're like, great job.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Yeah, man. Let me hear some of this shit. Can I hear some of it? No, I can't. No, nothing? We got in trouble. I'll tell you what. God damn it, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:53:56 It should be in public domain, but it's not, so. Okay, sorry. My heart goes out to you. When you look at him, like it's so strange looking. Give me a little. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Imagine he's like, I like the way black people look, but their music's too good. So what I'm going to do is do a white guy... And just pretend I'm a black guy. I mean, I'm going to do like whack white music. Yeah, that is fucked. I mean, how many blues singers were alive back then that just had... What year was this? 1927, I believe. What year was Robert Johnson alive?
Starting point is 00:54:40 97, I believe. What year was Robert Johnson alive? Find out Robert Johnson. That's the legendary blues man, the big legend of whether or not he sold his soul to the devil because he was so much better than everybody else. Same time. So here you go, folks. This is how whack white people are. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Al Jolson's pretending to be a black guy while Robert Johnson is alive and making music. And Robert Johnson, that's the root, I think it's Route 66 story. What's that? I forget. There's supposedly where he met the devil on the highway. Oh, and that gave him powers. And he sold his soul to the devil to be the greatest blues man ever. He sold his soul to the devil to be the greatest blues man ever.
Starting point is 00:55:30 It's hard for us to see in the 2020 context when there's so much music, man. There's so much brilliant music. There's the Beatles and fucking Sturgill Simpson and Kiss and Rolling Stones. There's so much fucking music that you could just get on your phone at any time. But back then, this one dude, dude Robert Johnson was so intoxicating that people thought that he had sold his soul to get that good ah that was this that's a real legend man people know about it and he was just traveling around singing the blues and you can listen to it today it's but it's hard to put it into perspective is his stuff public domain uh deaf yes that's the thing is like it i'll pay for it because of the give us a little give us a
Starting point is 00:56:12 little taste but robert johnson it's it's hard it's like when you listen to lenny bruce comedy it's hard for it to translate to today because the times are just so different yeah and this is the same thing with robert johnson but you got to think in his day just recorded music was like 20 years old yeah yeah you know like nobody even knew they were recording like beethoven and on these big stupid discs yeah when this is this is a guy that was way ahead of the curve i want to hear this now come on jamie give me some music what could it be 40 grand it's really not a big deal. Just give me a touch of Robert Johnson. How much can you pay before you have to pay for it? Prior to this, it's the best phone.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Robert Johnson. Robert Johnson. I went to the crossroads Fell down on my knees I went to the crossroads Fell down on my knees Imagine listening to this in a bar with sawdust on the ground, and he's on the stage. What year is this?
Starting point is 00:57:29 And you got a whiskey. 19, what was it, 30? It said he died in 38, so he's at 27, so he wasn't even that old. He died at 27 years old. They all died at 27. So imagine there's this, and then there's whack-ass Al Jolson singing terrible songs and pretending to be a black guy at the exact same time that Robert Johnson was alive.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Must have felt real good. Well, and then you've got to think that Robert Johnson, you're talking about a guy who was alive 60 years after slavery ended? Right? He was born in
Starting point is 00:58:02 19... Does it say how he died? He was born in 19... What did it say? Does it say how he died? 11. He was born in 1911. That's crazy. So was that 56? 50-ish years.
Starting point is 00:58:14 50-ish years. That's when he's born, after slavery ended, right? So it's basically the divide between people that used to be slaves and regular folks is still so fucked up man yeah one thing i was reading about that i didn't know about was i reading or somebody told me this that for the longest time after slavery one of the big things was they would just arrest black men for anything for loitering yeah and then they would make them work for like pennies a day like they'd make them to break rocks and so they give them these crazy sentences so they basically kept them slaves yeah
Starting point is 00:58:49 they just arrested them a lot for shit yeah and then imagine being a guy whose entire life you've been a slave now you're 25 years old and they just let you free and you got to figure out how to get a job and nobody wants to hire you and everybody's scared of you and everybody's prejudice against you and yeah there's no opportunities and then just start arresting you and making you break rocks you're like fuck it yeah i thought you guys were gonna fix this like this isn't any better this is worse so a whole generation had to go through that yeah before it still got to the civil rights movement in the 60s it's real crazy when you think about it it It's not that long. Not that long, man. I am 52 years old, and I believe Michael Yeo had on his page that a year, like to the very year that I was born, maybe I was alive for one year where it was illegal for a black man and a white woman to get married
Starting point is 00:59:46 Illegal so like the late 60s. Yeah, I Didn't know that did you know that no, I don't know anything dude. That's my lifetime Yeah, I think I think I was a year old when they made it legal Wow Can you find out that's accurate? Jamie what are you eating? It looks delicious. Come on, Jamie. What do you got there? Oh, the NeuroGum. What does that do?
Starting point is 01:00:11 Makes you smarter. I need one so bad. You do too. Jamie? You do too. I do as well. I know. I'll smoke a joint and drink and then try to make good points. Dude, we're making great points. Here we go. 1967.
Starting point is 01:00:26 So the year I was born. Interracial marriage in the United States has been fully legal in all U.S. states since 1967. There you go. So it's like, that's not that long ago, man. That's not that long ago. Interesting history. Yeah. And we're still getting over it.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Yeah. American Indians. Don't even start with that. I'm obsessed. You see that giant painting that I had out there, that Greg Overton painting? No. That big white Indian face when you walk in? Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Yes. I got obsessed with Native American history. Obsessed. I don't know much about it. Can you enlighten me a little bit? There's a book that you got to start with. This is the one that'll get you. It's called Empire of the Summer Moon by this guy, S.G.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Gwen. It's fucking crazy. It's all about the Comanches and all about how the Mexicans tricked people into settling into Texas because they knew the Comanches lived there and the Comanches were going to kill them. They wanted a buffer between people and the Comanches. So they gave them all this land. They're like, senor, this is a good place for you.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Send these poor bastards out to be slaughtered. Wow. Oh my God, dude. It's the best book. I think like in terms of like a perception shifting book, the best book I've ever read. I actually listened to it on tape I Never thought I was gonna read I don't read anything. I read mostly magazines I really I just mostly listen to books on tape, but this this one is so well written. It's so fascinating and
Starting point is 01:01:58 the the people that figured out how to Conquer the Comanches. Yeah, basically with the guys that figured out how to conquer the Comanches. Basically, the guys that figured out how to use pistols. They had to change the way they did battle, and they had to go against them on horseback. The Comanches were so good at fighting on horseback, and these dumb Americans, the early Americans- Why aren't you in a line? They would get off the- they'd have to shoot their long rifle off their horse. So they'd have to dismount from their horse, pull out their musket, boom.
Starting point is 01:02:24 And then they got to repack it.! And then they gotta repack it. It takes a minute to repack it. And these Indians were just fucking them up. So they couldn't get past a certain point in the United States. And that was Texas. That's why Texas is so fucking fierce today. Because the Texas Rangers were the first people to figure out how to fuck up the Comanches.
Starting point is 01:02:40 They lived like Comanches. They made cold camps. They didn't light fires. They ate just bullshit. They survived. They dressed like Comanches. They made cold camps. They didn't light fires. They ate just bullshit. They survived they dressed like like You know like regular people they did whatever the fuck they wanted and they figured out how to fight on horseback And then they figured out how to use a Colt revolver And it was the only they were the only people using the revolver nobody nobody saw a use for something that could fire Five times before ran out of bullets So this guy invented this revolver when he was like,
Starting point is 01:03:06 I think he was like 16 years old or something crazy. And the patent kind of floated around for a while and he made them, but nobody really wanted them. But then these Rangers kept fighting these Comanches and they only had two muskets in their hand and one long one. So they had three shots and they had to get the fuck out of there.
Starting point is 01:03:19 We can't beat these guys. They have like 20 arrows. This is fucked up. And so this one guy got a hold of a Colt revolver. And then he goes, hey, I think we just changed the game. They started fucking up these Indians on horseback. Yeah. And they started conquering big chunks of land that they couldn't, you know, that the Comanches were dominating before.
Starting point is 01:03:39 It's a crazy story, man. That's the best one to start with because they were so ruthless to each other. I will listen to it. Yeah, listen to it. I read so slow. I get panic attacks when there's subtitles in a movie. I was in a school. My parents kept trying to make me read faster.
Starting point is 01:03:58 This was back before they saw if you had a reading problem. You just were dumb. You were an idiot. Right. Period. And so they took me to this nun. There were these nuns that had this reading machine that we heard about. So we drive like an hour and a half
Starting point is 01:04:09 to go to this reading machine. What did you think it was before you got there? Magic. I didn't know what it was going to be. How old were you at the time? 14, maybe. You go into a reading machine. Yeah, and so it's a nun, very sweet, and it projects on the wall
Starting point is 01:04:24 like one sentence at a time and it goes by at, very sweet. And it projects on the wall, like one sentence at a time. And it goes by at a certain speed. It's like one through 10 speeds. And so she tests me where I am the first day and I'm level one. I can only read the absolute slowest. And she saw I was upset and she goes, don't worry by the end of the summer, you'll be on level 10. And I was like, really? So worked all summer. End of the summer test. Guess what level I was on? I worked really hard.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yes, I was on one. And her faith in God drops off her face. I couldn't read. And I still get angry when I read. And I can't get it. Still to this day? I read like this. I had to go back.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And then I go this way. I guess words. Like I know how long believe is. but sometimes it's a different, anyway. The problem is nobody recognized that you were actually a comedian that was trying to be a regular person. Yeah. I thought I was a normal person. That was the problem.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Like, what is he going to do? I wish I was there. Well, my, my, uh, I actually was very upset when I was like 12 years old. I was voted class clown, but I wanted to be at that age, you want to be cool and liked by girls, you know? Yes, for sure. You don't want to be a clown. Clown to me was bad. I realized that's how they saw me.
Starting point is 01:05:33 I was like tiny. They changed it to best personality because they heard that I was upset about it. And then my mother proceeded to fill my room with clowns. Oh, my God. My room was filled, and I didn't really have a voice back then. I didn't really, for whatever reason, I just let my mother fill my room with clowns. There was one painting of a clown reading the Wall Street Journal,
Starting point is 01:05:56 and he was crying. He had stock. Some clown had stocks. Oh, my God. Very upset about what was happening in the stock market. I was so high, I couldn't remember Leanne Tweeden's name. But how high was I? I was thinking, was it Luanne?
Starting point is 01:06:13 But I know her. She's nice. She's a nice person. The account of Robert Johnson's death is pretty crazy. Let's hear it. I just lost it. I was looking at the Devil Legend 2, which is pretty interesting. But he went down.
Starting point is 01:06:31 So those recordings he did were almost near the end of his life because there wasn't obviously lots of recording back then. It says he traveled to a plantation to perform at a dance party, and he was poisoned by someone. He was having an affair with the guy's wife. Oh, my God. And the guy didn't know he had an ulcer. So it said he wasn't trying to kill him.
Starting point is 01:06:56 He was trying to make him sick. The ulcer made him really sick. He bled. Oh. Then the back of his death certificate, I'll let you read this part because it adds to it a little bit. It says it was written on the back of it, this part right here. What part right here?
Starting point is 01:07:10 This paragraph in the middle. I can't see that well. Okay. It says, I talked with the white man whose place this Negro died, and I also talked with the Negro woman on the place. The plantation owner said the Negro man, seemingly about 26 years old, came from Tunica two or three weeks before he died to play banjo at a Negro dance given there on the plantation. Jamie's saying Negro. He stayed in the house with some of the Negroes.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Jesus Christ. Saying he wanted to pick cotton. The white man did not have a doctor for this Negro, and he had not worked for him. He was buried in a homemade coffin furnished by the county. The plantation owner said that was his option, or that it was his opinion that he died of syphilis. His sister then came, got him out of that coffin,
Starting point is 01:07:53 tried to have his death looked into, and no one really looked into it, and that's about the end of that. So somebody might have poisoned him. This wasn't found out until 30 years later. They thought he just disappeared. What? Yeah. What? Death wasn't found out until 30 years later. They thought he just disappeared. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:06 What? Death wasn't reported publicly. He disappeared from the historical record and wasn't until like 30 years later. Some people found his music and they found, dug into his life, found his death certificate, found out all this information way after the fact. Wow. So like this guy who everyone reveres as like one of the best musicians of all time. Wow.
Starting point is 01:08:27 No formal autopsy was done. It's the same time that's happening. All that real shit. Al Jolson's got white gloves on. Right. Making all that sweet cheese. He's doing movies and people are clapping. Yay.
Starting point is 01:08:41 So talented. Do you imagine what white guilt was like back then? It must have been suffocating. I don't think there was any. None? No. The ones who were aware would be like, oh my God, my race sucks.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Were they? What did we do? That's an interesting thing. For the record, that was on Wikipedia. That could have been organized in maybe the not most truthful way, but that's how it was put in place. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:02 There's an album. I didn't know any of that, man. That's interesting. I didn't know he was that young, an album. I didn't know any of that, man. That's interesting. I didn't know he was that young, too. Yeah. But it's kind of funny, man. It's just weird that just a few years ago, Jimmy Kimmel, didn't he do like Karl Malone?
Starting point is 01:09:16 Didn't he do like an impression of Karl Malone? Yeah, that is interesting. What do you think about going back and canceling? Well, it's hard. It's because the context of the time is different. When Jimmy Fallon was playing Chris Rock, I know you think it's offensive, but it wasn't universally considered offensive to pretend to be
Starting point is 01:09:34 someone of a different race. It wasn't automatically thought of as you're trying to be racist if you pretend you're doing... You're pretending you're Chris Rock. If you can do a Chris Rock impression and you put makeup on your face that makes you look like an african-american it wasn't it wasn't necessarily racist because you were pretending to be an actual human being right it used to be different like we thought of it differently now it's like universally thought
Starting point is 01:09:58 across the board if you're a white person you can't put black makeup on everyone's agreed to that this is the new elevated standard and And we all agree to it, right? And if you did it now, that would be... That's different. Right. If you did it now, it's different. If you decided now, you're like, fuck you, your rules, man.
Starting point is 01:10:11 I'm fucking crazy. Yeah. You know, that's really what's going on. And back then, it wasn't a problem. People thought it was funny. Like, oh my God, that's Jimmy Fallon pretending to be Chris Rock. Ugh.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Yeah. Like, you could do it. You could pretend to be Mr. T when I was in high school. Like T when I was in high school. Like when I was in high school, you could put makeup on your face, have gold chains around your neck and you could pretend. Did you ever do a black face in the eighties?
Starting point is 01:10:34 I happen to not either. I got lucky. Yeah. But you're right. Like it wasn't thought of as you didn't think, I'm doing something bad. No, you didn't.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I don't think they thought that. And it's like, where does that, where does that end? hmm like what what can what can you not pretend to be like as long as you like isn't intent what's really important i totally i absolutely think it is important i mean i i think intent is what's important. It should be. When things become taboo and superpowered, they become very dangerous. It's just weird because then people are so scared of saying it that they want to say it more. And then the races have a more powerful weapon, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:16 And we don't have to let go new ones. We've already lost certain words that we can never say again, even in jest in, in jest because they're so offensive that even uttering them is like an incantation for an ass kicking. Yeah. You're getting to call people to beat your ass. Yeah. Right. I mean,
Starting point is 01:11:33 that's really what it's good to have that option. But the real problem is intent. Intent is like words are supposed to just be noises. You make that, let other people know what you're thinking. That's all it's supposed to just be noises you make that let other people know what you're thinking that's all it's supposed to be and when a word becomes like a super powerful word or a deed becomes a super powerful deed like a thing like that that doesn't really hurt anybody like blackface like with that when you decide if you decided to be mike tyson for halloween and you're an italian guy and you
Starting point is 01:12:01 know and you had a fucking fake tattoo put on my fucking face or fucking you know like people would only think it's funny you know if that's your intent especially if you're an actual Mike Tyson fan it's just weird that it's and it's because of their origins it's because of Al Jolson Al Jolson
Starting point is 01:12:19 and his shitty movies the whole reason I mean how many blackface people were there back then? Was it that big of a deal? I know there's an album cover with Judy Garland in blackface. She was in blackface? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:12:31 No. On an album cover. Oh my God. See, but like, if there was none of that, if it was just, Right.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Right? If it never existed, if just black people did their music and they were just recognized as being musicians, and there was never like a white guy who tried to pretend he's black and do it and steal their thunder. If that never existed at all.
Starting point is 01:12:51 You think it wouldn't be a problem? I don't think it would be a problem. I'm not sure. For the record, it didn't start with Al Jolson. That was just the first time it was captured on film. So that's the first record. That's like the only thing we have to look at. Oh, so how long had it been going on?
Starting point is 01:13:04 Since the 1830s. Oh my God. So dude, while slavery was still legal, white people were pretending to be black people on stage and singing shitty songs. It's just like, they're not even trying to look like black people though, which is weird. They came up with a caricature cartoon.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Yeah, look at that that's that oh my god wmh west's big minstrel jubilee now me as a person just as a human being i understand the context of what would be offensive about this and where where we are today in 2020 and the progress we're making and all that stuff. I just got to tell you, for me as a person, that is fascinating. I am fascinated by this as just the evolution of an animal, of a human being, of a culture where we're seeing the people from that day. What year is this? That picture was from 1900, I think. Okay, so 1900. That picture was from 1900, I think.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Okay, so 1900. So 120 years ago, the evolution of that version of a human being to our version of a human being. We're very different from people that lived 120 years ago. And this is a great example of how different we are. When you see stuff from that time, it's like, I understand how it's offensive to people. I get it. I understand. It should be offensive. It should be offensive that people were treated that way.
Starting point is 01:14:26 It should be. However, just as someone who's like watching, like if you were watching a bird and it exhibited really weird behavior a long time ago, then it stopped doing it, he'd be freaked out. Like, wow, what happened? Why'd they stop doing this? Like, how did they evolve? How are they different from the way they were back then? evolve how are they different from the way they were back then if you got to if you could fucking have a time machine and go back and watch a minstrel show a live minstrel show you and me
Starting point is 01:14:51 we get high as fuck we time travel time machine could you imagine sitting there watching that crazy nonsense like a white guy with like black paint all over his face big exaggerated lips and he's got white gloves singing these terrible songs yeah it um it's weird that those uh those things happen but it's that would actually be a fascinating oculus rift game wait a minute what yeah yeah if you could put a game on like one of those oculus rift things if you could put a helmet on and it would just transport you back in time not just to this place but like to egypt how about that how about you're in ancient egypt in like 2000 bc with cleopatra yeah actually she lived in like the ad's 10 000 ad she lived in the ad's Cleopatra. Yeah. Actually, she lived in like the ADs. 10,000 AD? She lived in the ADs. Cleopatra is not a good example.
Starting point is 01:15:51 I went to one of those festivals. What do you call those? Renaissance festivals? Oh, yeah. Those are great. And they were having this big, like, here ye show. And the guy's on stage and there's people, you know, all dressed up watching. And I wanted so bad to go up in my now clothes from backstage. I could have got backstage
Starting point is 01:16:05 and be like, hey everybody, I'm from the future. And they'd have to continue to pretend they're from the olden times and be like, in the future,
Starting point is 01:16:13 people make fun of you and they do these festivals and they're a bunch of nerds who act like you. And they would have to continue to be like, oh, you're from the future, sir. They couldn't break character.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Anyway, I was too scared to do it. Do you think they'll ever have a millennial festival? Like they have a renaissance festival? That is so funny. A millennial festival. Everyone's just on their phone being a dick. I'm an
Starting point is 01:16:34 activist. Look at all the hashtags I use. You know what? I think some version of that will happen. I'm kind of having 80s parties now. Well, that's what I think about what's happening with us. This is a good way to look at it.
Starting point is 01:16:50 We're talking about these ripples and waves and ups and downs and we're experiencing a big crazy shift. All that though, I think on the other end comes out better. I think it comes out better for everybody. I really do. I think all this horrible shit that's happening to us right now as a culture needs to happen so we can be nicer to each other.
Starting point is 01:17:13 It's totally possible. That would be great. It's totally possible. It can 100% be the outcome, and I think it is going to be the outcome. Because if you look at all these people that are peacefully marching versus the people that are looting and all the crazy shit, the numbers are overwhelming. Most people are peacefully marching. I want people to – my brother's a cop. So I have like a – I really feel defensive of him because he's just such a good cop and a good guy.
Starting point is 01:17:37 And I just feel like, God, the news is just making things – they're going a little overboard with – Bro, they canceled Paw Patrol. Do you understand this? That's how serious they are. Is that puppies being policed? That's how seriously... Well, one of them is also a fire person. They have different jobs.
Starting point is 01:17:56 They canceled Paw Patrol because of the cop part. Bro, they canceled cops. They canceled the show Cops. The most reality of all reality shows. That's a good Bro, they canceled cops. They canceled the show Cops. The most reality of all reality shows. That's a good way to show you what most cops are doing. And most criminals. We got to know about, look, the best confirmation that we ever got about Florida man came from cops.
Starting point is 01:18:20 All those accounts, the Twitter accounts and Instagram accounts that show all the crazy shit that Florida guys do all that most of it came from that yeah yeah I want to it's also hard to even or sort of bring interest in the conversation cops and what they're dealing with because it's like you're you're not on the right side
Starting point is 01:18:40 like I am for you know Black Lives Matter but I also just want to introduce there's so much coming at cops right now i mean they're they go up to these cars terrified like how you go through a haunted house you know a lot of it is is bad train they're not getting enough training and they're not you know they're really scared and they have a gun and so when you start wrestling with someone who's got a gun, suddenly who knows who has the gun. And from that point on, it's a –
Starting point is 01:19:07 And they don't have a whole lot of physical requirements on how much they learn martial arts or gun retention or any of that stuff. Not enough. And also now you can't – you know, to control the head, you control the body. Yeah. And now you can't – Can't choke on it anymore. And look, and the guy who died, Eric Gardner. That's the one in New York, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:28 He actually, he didn't die from the chokehold, but I think a lot of people think he did. They were sitting, they were like leaning on him. He couldn't breathe. Yeah. But he was also being choked. But no, but not while. No, no, that was, listen, that thing around the arm, around the head. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:41 No one stays there. They don't stay there. You have to hold them. You have to hold them. You have to squeeze them. When you squeeze them, you're choking them. If I hold you like that, I'm not putting you to sleep, but I'm slowly choking you. If a guy has a guy the way that cop had Eric Gardner down,
Starting point is 01:19:57 if I basically remember correctly, he was using like a gable grip and rad. It wasn't a full rear naked choke where he's choking him to sleep, but he was holding this across the neck. And I would say anybody who doesn't think that that's a choke let me put it on you. Let me put it on you. Lie on the ground and I'll grab your neck like that. I'm telling you it's a choke. I could
Starting point is 01:20:15 be wrong but I remember the video that he did the choke and once he got on the ground he let the, the guy actually didn't die from, do we have that video? I think that one you're correct i think eric gardner died from a heart attack but they were like they were leaning or sitting on them but it was all so crazy because it was for loose cigarettes but my point is like if someone is holding your head like that it's it's a choke it just is you know it might it
Starting point is 01:20:42 not it's not a full choke where you're going to sleep, but if someone has you in a position where they're on top of you, you're on your stomach. So all their weight is on you, which makes it very hard to breathe already. Yeah, that guy's wrapping his arm right around that dude's neck. No, I'm saying he's on the ground. His left arm in that one is not totally under the neck. So that one is. See how that is?
Starting point is 01:21:08 See, that is a choke. Yeah. Look at his hands. See how his hands are gripped together? Let me show you what I'm doing right here. Look at this. See this? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:16 This is 100% a choke. Yeah. 100%. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. That's a fucking choke. And anybody who doesn't think that, let me put it on you. That's a choke. That's under the neck. That's worse than I thought it was. That's a fucking choke. And anybody who doesn't think that, let me put it on you. That's a choke. That's under the neck. That's worse than I thought it was. That is a 100% choke.
Starting point is 01:21:30 I could be wrong, but if you go forward in the video, I don't think the choke that he's doing on him and... I understand what you're saying. He didn't do it for very long. But if... He shouldn't have done it at all, man. That's the thing. If that is what caused him to die, and we don't know if that was or if it was the people on top of him or was the stress of the event or it was a combination of all those things.
Starting point is 01:21:52 But that had to play a factor. That choking that dude. And why? Over loose cigarettes. That's the most important part of that story. Look, I'm not in defense of this situation. I was just making the point that sometimes if you take away from a cop the ability to – Also, they're not even going to – if you've got a gun and someone is going after you, you have to assume they might kill you.
Starting point is 01:22:21 And you do anything you can in that situation. Now, that situation is not a good example I was just making the point that the he actually didn't die from that that he died from there And they were like leaning on him and sitting on him, but we don't know that though Here's the thing man the way he's on that guy's neck that guy's big Look at the guy who's doing that go back to that real quick for a second The guy who's doing that choke has some big-ass fucking arms, dude. He's got some big fucking strong—look at that guy's arm.
Starting point is 01:22:50 That's a strong motherfucker, man. All those muscles around where his elbows—that guy will choke the shit out of you. Look at his shoulders. Look at his triceps. I am telling you, if that guy is trained in something, and it seems like he is, I guarantee you he's strong as fuck. That is a rough thing to go through, my friend. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:23:10 I don't deny it. You can't say, if you're seeing that, you're definitely seeing that. You're looking right at it. You can't say that's not what killed him. Because if that guy's holding on, I don't know how long he's holding on for. I think he's alive after this. Maybe he had a heart attack because of that. That's possible.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Because this dude is on him like a pit bull. And for what? Loose cigarettes. It's fucking crazy. It's the craziest story. I want to make it clear I'm not pro this story. My point is that. No, I know you're not.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Yeah, this. But we forget what things really looked like. I do it all the time. I need to look at it again. I go, oh, I didn't know it was like that. Yeah. I have a- I just like-
Starting point is 01:23:52 I just know if you're in a situation where- What's up, Jamie? The Paw Patrol thing I was going to say. Did they bring it back? It's a troll. Oh, those motherfuckers got me. No. What happened?
Starting point is 01:24:03 They got me. Paw Patrol was a troll. They weren't really canceling Paw Patrol. They got me. You got me, you fucks. But here's the thing, man. The cops was. Cops is real.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Cancels. But in my eyes, there's something about cops that was always mocking these poor fucks that are getting arrested. Yeah. Even the theme song. Bad boys, bad boys. What you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you? They made it funny.
Starting point is 01:24:28 They made it funny to watch these cops pull over these bumbling rednecks with those fucking red plastic cups and they're beating each other up. Yeah, it's a great show. It was a crazy show. 31 years. It's probably the longest running show next to The Simpsons. Right? This is not a troll
Starting point is 01:24:44 though. This is breaking news. California governor orders all citizens to wear face masks. It's in all public places and stuff. How did we go backwards? I don't know. I'll tell you how. Protests. No one's saying it. Protests. Don't spread it.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Don't worry. Whatever you do, don't try to get your job back, you piece of shit. Are you guys demonstrating you're killing grandma? But protests, it's back, you piece of shit. Are you guys demonstrating? You're killing grandma. But protest, it's like, yay. This is so weird. They're making a difference. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:10 And it was also like cops were these heroes, you know, in the parades, frontline workers. And a week later, like, you're an asshole. Well, it all takes is one or two bad cops. And there's two in a row now. That guy in Atlanta. Jamie was telling me the story that the guy knew that the taser that the gentleman stole from him and ran away from him and pointed the taser at him when they shot him.
Starting point is 01:25:32 He knew the taser didn't work. Oh, really? He knew it had already been fired. Apparently there's video, which I didn't see. They've only shown photos. After they shot him, they didn't do anything for like two minutes. Or one of them tried to help, but the other one's like they stood on him or someone kicked him. I heard they kicked him. They didn't do anything for like two minutes or one of them tried to help
Starting point is 01:25:45 but the other ones like they stood on him or someone kicked him. I heard they kicked him. I heard someone kicked him. Dude, it's the best example for why we should have
Starting point is 01:25:53 something other than the cops for drunk people. Like someone who's like a nice guy who's a counselor comes in and talks to you. Is it only one guy?
Starting point is 01:26:01 Yeah, he fell asleep in his car at the drive-thru. Okay, we're going to send Mike. Mike's going to be like, hey, man, you all right? You all right? But eventually Mike's probably going to have to call the cops.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Maybe not. Maybe Mike says, listen, man, I'm going to give you a ride home. We're going to park your car right here. We're all good. That's a good point, yeah. I'll give you your keys. Come back in the morning when you're sober. Here's my number.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Call me. I'll grab you. I'll pick you up. I'll bring you to the car. Also, homeless, maybe take that away from cops, too. Homeless? Dealing with homeless people. You're right.
Starting point is 01:26:27 You're right, right? That's a real different sort of crime. That's like a systemic poverty crime thing. Like, there's something weird going on. If that many people are homeless, like, what kind of a – how fucked up is the balance of your little community when 70,000 people are homeless? Yeah. Like LA has Boulder, but homeless inside of it. Really?
Starting point is 01:26:52 Close. Boulder's like 100,000 people. LA's got more than 70,000 and growing homeless people. So the entire population of Boulder, no house, shove them into LA. And they have tents under the freeways and stuff. They make little tent cities. I don't want those people to have to live like that but I don't want them to live there either.
Starting point is 01:27:11 It's a two-prong thing. It's like how do you fix that? I don't know how you fix it once it gets started. It's very difficult to give someone back their dignity and to do it, you'd almost need one-on-one individual attention with someone who's like a a counselor a babysitter someone's gonna straighten the person out and clean them up and get them to think better and get them to eat better
Starting point is 01:27:35 and get them to drink water and stop shooting heroin into the dick and get a job and there's a should never shooting your dick that's what happened to to Harvey Weinstein. That's what I heard. That's why he got a mushroom penis. He was just shooting things in his penis. Well, I unfortunately Googled that disease. And, oh, you don't want to do it. I don't even want to say what it's called, but it's a type of gangrene that diabetic men get. And if they get an infection, they're cuck. They're cuck.
Starting point is 01:28:02 They're cuck. When they get an infection, they get this horrible gangrene and there are some images on there's some things that google will censor okay but not but not green rotten dicks rotten dicks it's open season top of the search what about is it called what's the uh the um the type of gangrene called. Everyone should know about it, but no one should go look it up. I looked it up. Don't listen to me.
Starting point is 01:28:29 Do whatever you want to do. You just need to know it's a real thing. And then someone texted me, might have been Metzger, someone texted me that they heard it was because Harvey was shooting coke into his dick. Yeah, that's what I heard. So it was probably Metzger,
Starting point is 01:28:43 and he probably heard it from you. It's like a circle of lies. Fournier's or Fournier's, it's a last name, I think, so it's capitalized. So Fournier's gangrene. And it's gangrene of the dick, and you have been warned. And it didn't slow him down. You want to see a photo?
Starting point is 01:29:00 Absolutely. I kept one on my phone because I was so confused. Well, you need to be pretty close to getting something injected by his assistants to... To get his heart up. Yeah. Aren't you surprised that that didn't slow him down from his sexual assaults? Holler at your boy. No.
Starting point is 01:29:16 I don't even know what I'm looking... I'm not even offended because I don't know what I'm looking at. Meatballs and sausage. That's what you're looking at. Oh, those are his balls. What's that tongue thing coming out of? Exactly. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Dude, that's a you're looking at what's that tongue thing coming exactly oh no dude that's a fully rotten asshole like that guy rotted out from the top of his dick to his asshole oh god yeah i had a i had a std scare i don't have an std but this is what happened i woke up and the area right above my most precious area was a little puffy. So I called the doctor. The lady goes, what do you want to see the doctor for? I didn't know what to say, but this is what came out of me. I go, I have a puffy pubic area. And she goes, ugh.
Starting point is 01:29:57 Like at receptions at a doctor's office, their job is to make you feel like, oh, that's fine. Puffy pubic area. We get those all the time. That's so funny. Peter Power picked up puffy pubic area. We get those all the time. That's so funny. Peter Piper picked up puffy pubic areas. Come on in. So I'm like, oh, this is something she's never heard of. Now I'm getting more of it.
Starting point is 01:30:11 So I go in there and it's a little waiting room and I go up to the desk and I go, Kyle Dunnigan, hopefully she'll see the chart and go, okay, sit down, I got you. And she goes, what are you here to see the doctor for? Again, and I'm like, and I go, I have a puffy, I have a puffy pubic area and she goes oh you talked to her yeah we're talking like they were laughing and talking about it
Starting point is 01:30:32 oh you talked to her oh we know that story yeah we were laughing all morning about that story about your puffy pubic area and everybody is hot which made it worse and this nurse came out and she's like kyle dunnigan and then she's walking me down the hallway and she goes what are you here to see the doctor for? I was like does anybody fucking communicate? This sounds like a great porno all the girls are hot You got a puffy pubic area and she just tells you this is gonna sound crazy But it's because when was the last time you came? I'm trying to not cum. I mean, I've been in this challenge
Starting point is 01:31:05 for 30 days. Yeah, I want to respect women. Oh my God, that's what it is. Your cum is backed up. Yeah. Let's get Diane in here. So your cum starts to work its way into your lower gut.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Michelle's got to work your balls to get out of there. You have like a leaky cum container. Like your dispenser, it's like it's just, you got too much in there. You know? It's overflowing
Starting point is 01:31:25 that is a great porno and I don't wanna I don't wanna dismiss that as a great porno so the end of this story the doctor comes in and I'm in that paper robe he opens up
Starting point is 01:31:36 looks down looks up at me and he goes oh you just got a little fat and he left the room like I got a little fat I didn't even notice
Starting point is 01:31:43 that's all it is and I just wasted my day and humiliated myself. That's all it is a puffy pubic area You were worried you were gonna die. Yeah, well the reaction Well, that was the thing about Robert Johnson too, right they said they think oh, I think he had syphilis Yeah, somebody murdered that guy What are the symptoms of I like to be a This one we've discussed this one too many times on the pot. All right, sorry Okay, I'm gonna do it. Anyway, do you know what the term big wig?
Starting point is 01:32:14 You know, I like it sounds good know what comes from because people they lost their hair to her wigs from syphilis And it came from these two French dudes. I think what are the cousins or some shit I forget Jean-Theron that's an accent you can still do but they were yeah you can do that you know no one gonna hate me if I'm doing this nobody cares you can do Italian too hey this fucking guy over here we're the last to go we're the last we're the last of the Mohicans nobody cares I don't think you'll ever not be able to pick on an Italian so what is it Louis XIV and his cousin. So they had syphilis. Their fucking hair's falling out in giant clumps.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Their teeth are falling out of their head. Like when people had syphilis, they just rotted apart. And when their hair was falling out, they just got a crazy wig. And the more money you had, the bigger the wig you can get. Big wigs. So all these other people got syphilis too, and then wigs became like a thing of fashion anyway. I bet back then people just fucked everybody.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Everybody just fucked everybody. What else were you going to do? Well, pedophilia was rampant, right? There's all these stories of like hundreds and hundreds of years ago where pedophilia and man-boy love, like it was normal. Guys had like little boyfriends, like famous philosophers had like a little boy. Cute little boy, cute little children.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Yeah, like just imagine that shift in culture. Yeah. You know? That was a good thing to get rid of, I think. For sure, but the Catholic Church disagrees. Yeah. That's a whole thing we could talk about
Starting point is 01:33:46 attacks on the powder they used on the hair to like cover up the smell is what stopped it like the fat of
Starting point is 01:33:54 the attacks on the powder so the powder became too expensive the smelly powder stopped the smell imagine everybody smelled like perfumey
Starting point is 01:34:02 stinky pussy like their hair was like a foot. And they just had perfume all over the foot. A stinky, rotten, fucking marathoner's foot. You're better off being a very poor person. I don't know if this is a direct show. But I would rather be someone who's just got a studio apartment,
Starting point is 01:34:23 who makes 40 grand, whatever, than be a king back then. You would be a king. Imagine if you could just tell these people, if you were in ancient Europe, and you were like, I'm going to show you how I live. Oh, you'd be. You got in the shower. You turned it on. Like, oh, my God. Now I'm going to watch TV.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Oh, look. They're pumping his fucking wig with powder. The guy's really leaning into it. So these dudes would all lose not just their hair, but their teeth would fall out. They would get holes in their face. And there's all these pictures. Oh, there's Lindsay Fitzsarris. Yeah, well that's our clip we talked about before.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Yeah, we can show our own clip. See that image of that dude's head? That guy's head was falling apart like that because of syphilis. He was literally, his skin was rotting apart oh that's how apparently that's how al capone died as well oh really yep but then wigs became fashionable right because yes everyone in a wig wigs became fashionable god damn it that lady lost her nose that's so crazy looking that is so crazy looking just a big hole where your nose used to be. But people
Starting point is 01:35:25 have holes in their cheeks and shit. Yeah, like eat your skin. Yeah, and then they would die. It's terrible, man. I wish someone would eat my nose. Shut it off, Jamie. Shut it off. That's my skull. Yeah, I mean, it would rot right through you. It's really spooky stuff. We got rid of that, though.
Starting point is 01:35:41 So anybody who doesn't like vaccines, like, hey, settle down! Settle down. Leave Bill Gates alone. Yeah, man. I've had this gentleman, Dr. Peter Hotez. He's a vaccine advocate. He's a doctor.
Starting point is 01:35:56 He's an expert in tropical diseases. He was on the podcast talking about COVID and stuff like that. And he gets very angry when people spout mistruths about vaccines. You have to look at the good and the bad. You have to be real honest about what happens with any kind of medication. But with vaccines, my God, we've fixed so many fucking problems. Your kids don't have to worry about polio anymore. You don't have to worry about smallpox anymore.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Smallpox killed everybody yeah there was so much shit that was just killing people until they figured out vaccines it's just people who aren't aware of that history or they don't really uh they don't really sink in no they're fucking they they're rightfully distrustful of a corrupt government that's why so they hear about vaccines like it's fucking bill Gates trying to put a microchip in me. What is that idea about Bill Gates? I mean, to me, I can't even figure out. He's spent so much of his money helping people. Something happened.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Bill Gates became a bad guy. He spent so much of his money. Not enough, Bill. You fuck. I mean, would you do that? You got 60 billion. You give him away 50 billion. I think it's good. Even if he gives his kids money, it's good he's telling, he's not telling them that? You got $60 billion. Are you giving away $50 billion? I think it's good.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Even if he gives his kids money, it's good that he's not telling them that he's giving them any money. Dude, the moment I hit $50 billion, I'm going to live like I'm in a Jay-Z video. I'm just going to get a giant yacht, and I'm going to have gold underwear. I'm going to have a bottle of Dom in each hand. Like that song, Big Pimpin'. You're waiting for $50 billion? Yeah, that's the number. I think a billion are good.
Starting point is 01:37:24 No, because you have to have goods, land. You have to have a lot of things planned out. These fucking crooks out there are not playing. Is that the number, 50 billion, when you can relax? I don't know what a number is when you can relax. But at that number, I'd say yes. I think so. But even then, those fucking dudes always feel like they need more.
Starting point is 01:37:42 There you are. There you are. When all those other dudes. There you are. There you are. When all those other dudes. There you are. Got yachts. Jay-Z got a fucking cruise ship. I forgot that there was someone walking around with a Dom P. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:37:53 This is what I'm talking about. That would be me. Dude, dude, dude. Just dancing all day. But here's the thing, man. The real thing. This is appealing because you can't have it. And the only time that feels good is when you do other shit that's hard.
Starting point is 01:38:08 If you're just doing that every day, I swear to God, you won't be happy. It sounds fucked up, but you got to trust me. Human beings need puzzles. We need to solve things. We need games to win. We need things to do. We need books to write. We need things to accomplish.
Starting point is 01:38:21 We need goals that we set. We got to achieve them. If you don't do that, you're not going to to be happy and it's a big problem with people today and if every day was like pig pimping you would get bored big pimpings for the weekends when you bust your ass monday through friday and you fucking put the pedal to the metal right and then you know i mean you you look rich kids that are disasters it's really not not... It's terrible. I even... I think you'd be really sad just given a huge house. You just would be sitting in this big
Starting point is 01:38:50 house by yourself. Yeah, you don't want a huge house, man. Not if you're one dude in particular. If you're Batman and you're living in one giant castle by yourself, that's just... Well, if you're Batman... Come on, man. You can't be... You're so moody. You got Robin? I wonder why you're so moody. Yeah, but I think he hangs out with Robin. I think he... I think Robin are cool. They call. I don't be. You're so moody. You got Robin. I wonder why you're so moody. Yeah, but I don't even think he hangs out with Robin.
Starting point is 01:39:06 I think he, you know. He and Robin are cool. They call. I don't know about that. They Zoom. He's like, I might have to keep rescuing this fucking guy. Oh, yeah, he does have to sort of carry the weight there. Oh, he's going to save him.
Starting point is 01:39:15 He never pulls his own fucking weight, this Robin. Do you remember the Batman movie with Alicia Silverstone? That was maybe the worst movie ever. Batman and Robin it was called. I auditioned for that movie. Oh, that's the gentleman who's on that LL Cool J cop show. I don't know that. Right?
Starting point is 01:39:33 Schwarzenegger was in it. Yeah. I Will Freeze You guy. Right, right, right. But that guy was Robin. He was Robin. What's his name? Chris O'Donnell. And he's on that cop show with LL Cool J. Oh, I missed that one It's his day going back to Cali is in my fucking playlist. Hey, I'm working out. I like that song bikini small heels
Starting point is 01:39:57 Tall she said she likes the ocean It's a great song man. It's a great workout song. I put on Rocky music. Oh, you're hardcore. Yeah. Too much trumpet for me. It's a lot of trumpets. Too needy.
Starting point is 01:40:14 I get really pumped up when I hear a trumpet, though. Yeah. Well, if you were running and Rocky came on, yeah, I would see it, though. But in the regular world, you don't want to listen to it. What are we talking about? I forgot. I think we were talking about something forgot like i like i think we're talking about something and then we got onto our workout music and i'm fucking ready to get into something important yeah it's not really possible i am on the weekend i'm so glad to do this podcast
Starting point is 01:40:35 with you i've been having all these serious podcasts thank you for having me i don't i can't yesterday was my friend brett weinstein he's a an evolutionary biologist and one of the smartest fucking people i've ever met so it goes from him to this goofy conversation it's awesome well that's what i feel like bad people listening here's so many smart people and uh yeah but they want funny people not that i'm an idiot but i'm definitely misinformed and uh and also we've been smoking, which is, I don't approve of this. People like fun. Yeah. We have fun.
Starting point is 01:41:09 We're Americans. God damn it. God damn it. That's right. And I bought a surfboard that came today and I'm going surfing. Oh shit. You're going surfing? Can I surf?
Starting point is 01:41:15 No. You should get a lesson. Don't die. I like you. You can't die. I really want you to survive. You can't die surfing. You definitely can die surfing.
Starting point is 01:41:21 No, no, no, no, no. You definitely can die. You've never surfed, sir. You're right. You're right. But I do know people who have told me they almost die surfing. You definitely can die surfing. No, no, no, no, no. You definitely can die. You've never surfed, sir. You're right. You're right. But I do know people who have told me they almost died surfing. How did they die surfing? They got hit with the fucking wave and brought under, and they didn't think they were going
Starting point is 01:41:34 to get back up. Dude. Come on, man. Wow. You think I'd knock out from a surfboard? Come on. You know what the scariest thing I ever heard anybody talk about with the ocean was not just that this guy died in San Diego. They were all training for like a triathlon and he got bit in half by a shark in front of everybody.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Full on half? Full on great white just takes him and fucking rips him in half in front of everybody. And you're awake. And you're in the water and you are hundreds of yards from the shore. And the guy next to you just exploded with a sea monster, just jumped out and
Starting point is 01:42:14 ripped him in half. And you know blood fuels shark frenzies. And you go real slow. You can't really even swim fast. At your fastest, you're fucked. And you're trying to maintain a certain pace because you don't want to run out of gas. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:42:26 You don't want to be exhausted. And you don't want to splash around either like a wounded seal. Oh, my God. Well, my friend Peter Atiyah, he swam those waters shortly afterwards because he's preparing for some crazy Hawaiian swim where he swam from like Maui to the Big Island. What was the distance he swam from like Maui to the big Island. What was, what was the distance he swam? Something really insane. He swam from Maui to the big Island.
Starting point is 01:42:49 And I think he might've swam to Lanai as well. Like all, he tried to do it all in one day. So he's in these shark infested waters, tiger sharks all around Hawaii. And they're real aggressive. He says that's where he's going to go swim after he's training for swimming right where the guy got bit in half by a shark like a week ago. Like why would he's that's where he's gonna go swim after he's training for swimming right where the guy got bit in half by a shark like a week ago like why would he do that i don't know man i don't
Starting point is 01:43:12 know people are different anyway people are different you should come surfing with me dude i'm scared are you scared of sharks 100 yeah because you are potential prey when you get in the water yeah i'm a pussy I'm not I'm not into getting eaten by a shark I just don't think you have many options
Starting point is 01:43:30 for survival if one tries to get you and I know it's a very small I think you underestimate my speed I know I know you're fast
Starting point is 01:43:36 I'm very quick especially underwater I think a seal's gonna sell you out push you towards a shark that's what I'm worried about you should probably surf with a seal just tie to you so it would get the seal the shark. That's what I'm worried about. You should probably surf with a seal.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Just tie to you so it would get the seal. Just fucking throw him in the water. We'll just get the seal first. Yeah, it'll be like, oh, he loves seals. Like, this is Kyle and this is his buddy, the seal. Really, the seal's just there. It's a fucking shark. Boom.
Starting point is 01:43:56 And they catch you. TMZ catches you kicking the seal into the water. TMZ. And the shark snatches it up. Did the TMZ get you? Did they get me? You know, paparazzi and do they ever? I've talked to the TMZ. And the shark snatches it up. Did the TMZ get you? Did they get me? You know, paparazzi and do they ever? I've talked to the TMZ.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Most of the TMZ guys, a lot of them were comics. So you'd run into them at the airport. Yeah. And they were usually pretty cool. Yeah. Good guys. They're just doing a job, you know? It's just a weird, look, it's weird to not be famous and to see famous people and go,
Starting point is 01:44:21 why can't I film them? It's right there. Yeah, they have a great life. It's right there. Yeah, they have a great life. It's right there. I want to film them. It seems like, but the TMZ people, honestly, they've always been pretty respectful. If you tell them, you know, I'm too exhausted. I can't answer this complicated question after I just flew all night.
Starting point is 01:44:38 Yeah. Yeah. Because that's what a lot of it is, right? If you're fucking coming out of an airport and you're high on edibles, which I usually am. That's how I'm flying. And I have a Starbucks in my hand and I'm listening to Jimi Hendrix and some dude asked me, you know, what do you think about Black Lives Matter?
Starting point is 01:44:53 I'm like, whoa, this is a loaded question right here. Yeah. You know, or anything, any important issue where you could be like, you know, what do you think about Biden or Trump? What kind of answer am I going to give you? High as fuck, holding on to a Starbucks, listening to music. It is the worst time to be sort of drilled. Especially if you don't – when you're flying, you've got to just accept the fact that you're flying, right?
Starting point is 01:45:15 You just sit there and you just sit there. You listen to music or you look at a movie on your laptop. You're basically just sitting there chilling. You accept where you are. And then you get off. You get your coffee. You start walking. walking and there's a question about life like I'm not thinking about life. I'm just chilling I'm trying to not think like this is my not think time. This is not like I'm gonna do a podcast Let me wake up and get ready to do a pot or I'm about to stand up
Starting point is 01:45:41 Let me ramp my brain up. No, this is like getting off of a plane. I mean the worst answers ever I don't know what the fuck I'm about to stand up. Let me ramp my brain up. No, this is like getting off of a plane. I'm going to give you the worst answers ever. I don't know what the fuck I'm saying. And I think people go to you a little bit because of your podcast. They go to you for answers. They'll ask Kendall Jenner something different than they're going to ask you, probably. I'm not a guy for answers. Trust me. I'm a guy that can point you to people that might have answers.
Starting point is 01:46:02 But I'm not the answer. You've got a wide range of knowledge, though. Yeah, but it doesn't glue together right. It's scattered. It's basically inoperable. It's great for bringing things up on a podcast. It's not great for real-world applications. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:19 I just have weird facts about the Comanches stored in my head. I know science things, which is completely useless, but it's not. That's the whole reason why we're here. I don't know why people are as fascinated with science as I am. It should be. It is.
Starting point is 01:46:33 It's a, it's amazing that we make actual discoveries that I think are even more magical than religion. Some of the religion stories and people don't, uh, they're almost like scientists are elite nerds or something. They're not cool to people. And I think without science,
Starting point is 01:46:50 you would just be in the woods pooping in a hole and you die in a week. Well, I think we've got two things going on simultaneously. We have the biological needs. Okay. And biological needs mean that like men are still in some way rewarded for uh being like big strong physical specimens like a big football player or you know some elite athlete it's like biologically a woman's body will tell her like that is a man to breed with i'm going to make strong offspring there's
Starting point is 01:47:23 no ifs ands or buts about it. It is what it is. I know you're right. Yeah. Yeah. So because of that, these guys have the resources and the bandwidth to create all the things they create. Dumb guys who get a lot of pussy ain't inventing shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:39 They don't have any time. I'll tell you. They're not thinking that way. There's an app that makes me handsome. And I'll be Zooming. We'll be recording stuff with Kurt. And I'll be Zooming. We're recording stuff with Kurt. And I'll tell you, I relax. I get confident.
Starting point is 01:47:51 And just because my jaw is slightly bigger. I get a whole new personality. I realize I developed this personality because of the face I just was given. But on the other hand, one of the reasons why you're so funny is the perspective of life that you have coming from someone who's not totally happy
Starting point is 01:48:10 with your appearance. No, I was just very tiny and it did not go well for me. And my sister wanted a sister. So when I was born, I was constantly dressed up in makeup as a girl and she'd call me Kyleena
Starting point is 01:48:22 and I had to live as like a girl. My whole life, I've had women just like like on on me just telling me what to do and i ended up like my i took tap and jazz with my mother i didn't want to do that oh my god tap i went to get the tap shoes and the guy was like one day we'll see you on broadway i remember thinking like i don't want to i think my they kind of raised me to be a, like a woman. This sounds like the beginning of a biography of a serial killer.
Starting point is 01:48:51 Yes. This is what it sounds like. I didn't, I still haven't. Just tortured by your mom. You really, you wanted to play baseball, go fishing. And she's like, put on this dress. I'm going to raise a gay man if it's the last of me. I remember my parents found a like nude,
Starting point is 01:49:05 they weren't even nude, they were women in underwear under my bed. My dad was like, like a little relieved. Not that he was ever against me being gay, but he was like, I thought you were gay. But he didn't want me to have a life probably. Right. I mean, look, I'm built like, not a tough man. I'm not built like,
Starting point is 01:49:27 I'm proud to be one of your softest friends. But didn't you tell me that you're doing a prison workout? Yeah. Now I'm going to be huge by the end of COVID. I'll be huge. What are you doing? Trying to keep up with your friends? You said you were gluing rocks together and shit? I got bricks, wrapped them in duct tape, gorilla duct tape.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Really? And you're lifting weights with bricks? Yeah. I'm getting, I'll be huge by the end of this. You really could do that. It's actually it's getting all the muscles, you know. I read a story once where there was a guy was talking about how
Starting point is 01:49:54 to become a power lifter. He was explaining to people what to do to become a power lifter. And one of the pieces of advice he was giving is get a manual labor job. Yeah. He was literally saying, like, if you want he was literally saying like you want to get really strong you want to lift at night after work but you want to work all day like picking up bricks and shit yeah it's like this guy was like his strategy for being a stronger power lifter was
Starting point is 01:50:15 get a job carrying rocks all day yeah i dug i bought all these ficus plants for my front yard like 13 of them and they're like you want us to help you dig a hole? I'm like, I got it. I swear the dirt was so hard. It took me about three hours per hole. And I just did it because I was like, this is a great exercise. Great exercise. And holy crap. My doctor, Dr. Mark Gordon, he does it.
Starting point is 01:50:38 He's been on this podcast before. He actually does that for exercise. He'll go out in his backyard, just dig a hole. Yeah. Digging a hole gets pretty much everything. And I go, what are you doing with the hole? He goes, nothing. Fill it in. Just digging a hole. I'm doing it for exercise. He'll go out in his backyard and just dig a hole. Yeah, digging a hole gets pretty much everything. And I go, what are you doing with the hole? He goes, nothing. Fill it in. Just digging a hole and doing it for exercise. No, that man's insane. No, he's not. He should get a project, though, at least.
Starting point is 01:50:52 No, he's a bright man. He realizes that first of all, when you think about digging a hole, like, honestly, as someone, I mean, I'm not a kinesiologist, but I understand a little bit about exercise. It's a smart word for a guy who knows exercise. When you hold on to a pole and you fucking shove it into the ground with your leg and then you wrench it with your arms.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Yeah, that's what I did. That's a workout, man. That's a real workout. And it's a workout that works everything. It works your whole body. As long as you keep switching legs and switch the way you pull the thing, you're going to use both sides of your back. You don't want to do it this way. You'll hit yourself in the face.
Starting point is 01:51:25 But you can do this shit and this shit, and depending upon, obviously, the size of the handle of the shovel. But you can get a real workout shoveling, man. Just fucking shoveling things to the ground, stomping on it. Digging a hole is. And then chucking it. I mean, it's all shoulders and neck and back. I want this guy to feel some satisfaction.
Starting point is 01:51:45 I put in some ficus trees. I got some nice curb appeal. He's out there digging holes. I understand. Maybe he could do charity work where people need holes. You know what I mean? I don't want to tell this guy to do it. Well, it's his yard, man. He wants to have a nice green lawn
Starting point is 01:52:02 so he can stare at it. He'll look at you, nature. Look what I've done. I've conquered you. I've conquered you. You will bend to the will of my visual pleasure. I'll tell you what I did. I got some quotes on turf, fake grass. Oh, that stuff's terrible.
Starting point is 01:52:16 How do you feel about that? I hate that stuff. It looks good now. I looked at a house once that had that. The whole side yard was all turf. It was a beautiful house. But was it the good turf? Oh, it was a really good turf. You could tell you could tell though well you only could tell because they told you
Starting point is 01:52:28 i mean once you got on it you could tell but it's still beautiful but i don't like it because i want i mean i'd rather have like a bunch of patches of dirt and some grass and i want the fucking earth there i don't want a plastic toupee that pretends to be plants. Okay, I could see that. Get the fuck out of here, plastic toupee that pretends to be plants. I want grass or dirt. If you saw my lawn, my lawn is all weeds. Fuck your lawn, bro. No, dude, don't talk about my lawn like that. I'll fucking cut you.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Yeah, there's a, I mean, would you want to do your lawn in the fake grass? I'm getting a quote. If it's a good price, I'm going to do it. Because I try to do grass, and it's been a nightmare. I can't get these weeds to get out of my face. Don't be a pussy. One dude in my neighborhood has fake grass. And I swear to God, when I take my dog,
Starting point is 01:53:17 he's a nice fellow, I'm sure. No harm against him. He's got a house of fake grass in the front. My dog pisses on it every time. He's like, what is this? He just pisses on it as he walks. He steps in it and like you can see, he looks down at his feet and goes,
Starting point is 01:53:29 what the fuck is this? This isn't even grass. He pisses on it every time he walks by it. That thing must smell terrible. I have a dog. Actually, how do I get the dog crap out of it? You can't get the dog crap. It stays forever and then it becomes a new thing.
Starting point is 01:53:40 Oh, forget it. I hate my life. It becomes a new bacteria. It leaps hosts. I'll be patient zero for the next COVID. COVID-20. I mean, I'm sure they make it where you can't tell, but nothing's growing through that, man.
Starting point is 01:53:53 You're covering over the earth. I wish I had a picture of my lawn, and I think you'd feel different. No, I wouldn't. It's a disaster. I don't give a fuck. I don't think you care at all. I think you care about my lawn. No, I'd be like, put some time into it or don't.
Starting point is 01:54:06 Don't cover it with some plastic. I put so much time. I'm just done. I just want it to be, I may put just, I don't know what to do. Who cares? Anyway, listen. Isn't it strange though that like a garden is so much more pleasant than just plants that you see on your own?
Starting point is 01:54:19 Like a garden is like, I put this into the ground and gave it life. Look at my tomato plants. You can eat your... That's cool. Have you ever had a salad from your own yard? No. It's weirdly satisfying, man. Weirdly satisfying. I had an orange from a tree.
Starting point is 01:54:37 That's great, too. Yeah, an orange from your own tree. That's awesome. It's nothing to be neighbors. But it's something about if you can grow the lettuce, grow the tomatoes, grow some bell peppers and some onions, grow all that stuff, mix together a little balsamic vinaigrette, grow the carrots, chop them up, put them in the salad, and then you're eating that salad. You're like, holy shit, I grew this thing. This is crazy.
Starting point is 01:54:58 I just think baby carrots were baby carrots. What are they? They're carrots. They're just made small. They're just really little? No, they just got actual carrots and they shaved them small. Oh. There's no baby carrots?
Starting point is 01:55:11 I might be wrong. I may be trolled. That's the thing with people that are assholes. They're telling you it's a baby carrot. It's an old grandpa carrot. I'm wondering. They shaved down grandpa carrot. Oh, man. It's hard for me to put on weight. I go all gut.
Starting point is 01:55:27 This way, my whole family is these giant barrels and then twig legs. And then they come waltzing up. It looks disgusting. So I'm constantly fighting it. And you know my neck? Here's a quick story. Okay. I woke up one day.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Here's a dream I was having. I was turning. Come out of bed. I'm turning the top of a's a dream I was having. I was turning. Got out of bed. Got my coat. I'm turning the top of a Coke can, the top off. Wrench, can't get it off. Six foot can. I wake up with my-
Starting point is 01:55:53 Six foot can of Coke? Bottle of Coke. It's a dream I'm having. Oh, okay. I wake- They're so expensive. Really bad for you. A lot of calories.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Sorry. So I wake up with my hands wrapped around my head. I was twisting my own head. That's so crazy. So I go to the doctor feeling like an idiot. Oh, my God. That's so crazy. They x-rayed my neck, you know, and they put it on the wall.
Starting point is 01:56:17 And this doctor was rubbing his chin, looking at my neck. You don't want a doctor confused looking at your skeletal bone. Yeah, you want him super confident. Right. Everything looks normal. Right. And he goes, Jonathan! Calls another guy in.
Starting point is 01:56:32 And now they're both just like looking at my neck and I'm thinking I'm dying. Imagine if you were a doctor and some guy comes in and he's a patient. And you say, well, I just gotta give you
Starting point is 01:56:42 a little x-ray and check to see what's going on. And you x-ray him. And he's got all these weird bones he's not supposed to have. Yeah. And his entire spinal structure is totally different. Everything's different. The whole thing's different.
Starting point is 01:56:57 And the doctor looks at him and goes, what's going on here? And he goes, shut the fuck up. This is another good porn. Cause he's from another planet. Yeah. It's infiltrating. And then the nurses come in and blow him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:10 They all suck his dick. And there's peace in the galaxy again. I love it. He, so he looks at the lumberjack women showed up. Oh yeah. The lumberjills. This has just been a podcast of great porn.
Starting point is 01:57:24 Someone's scribbling. Some porn writers doing a podcast of great porn. Someone's scribbling. Some porn writer's doing a lot of scribbling. I hope so. It was funny. I texted Tom Segura. Did I text him or did I put it online? I think I might have tweeted it. Has anybody made COVID porn yet?
Starting point is 01:57:36 Tom Segura immediately, immediately text me a photo of this lady with a fucking COVID mask on and some guys grabbing her ass. I'm like, this is crazy. So then he sends me a link and I go to it. It is a COVID porn, like two days after lockdown. They've already got something produced. How many views? I'm just curious. Billions of views now.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Billions. Everyone's jerked off to it. Yeah. I'll have to get on that. Imagine. That's the thrill. Yeah. I might have to get on that. Imagine. That's the thrill. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:09 You might get a virus. Fucking during a pandemic. It is kind of hot. Women covering up. Anything they covered up. Even they usually cover up their ankles. And we're like, man, I got to see those ankles. Right. It was risky to show your ankles, you dirty whore.
Starting point is 01:58:21 Now they're covering their mouths. Yeah. They have a lot of power. But again, it's a lot of power. But again, it's the change of culture, like we were talking about. Just imagine living in a time just a few hundred years ago where women had to cover their ankles. Like you have a blouse that goes all the way down to the floor.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Crazy. But people were so animalistic. I bet men were so out of control and disgusting that you kind of had to obscure the shape of your body or they would just try to rape you oh man i bet hundreds of years ago like most guys raped that's what i think yeah i bet if you go back like four thousand years ago i get i think rape is like insanely. Insanely common. Yeah. Like when they talk about Genghis Khan and his DNA is in something like 5% of all Asian people. The perv men rape DNA gets spread. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Exactly. And it's in all of us. But the balance is the scientists don't get pussy so they don't get distracted. And so they figure things out They're those big gigantic football player dudes that are just fucking Storm style just like wow like a fucking sandstorm just throwing dick all over the place those guys don't invent anything No, it's like you almost Need to have no distractions and the best way to have no distractions is no one wants to fuck you We'll be right back. I mean nobody wants to say this right, but when you think of like weird sort of
Starting point is 01:59:52 Antisocial behavior people people getting locked into an online world People getting disconnected from human beings, you know all all of this is that's not a good trend that's happening more than ever and then with covid it gets ramped up even more because you have to do it that way yeah i feel like i went full circle on the being stuck alone and now i i was lonely for a little while and i'm i'm fine i don't know if maybe I'm turning into a psychopath. Yeah, you're about there. You're right about that door. I'm a psychopathic guy.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Yeah. Surfing. That's insane. It's an insane thing to do. I'm zooming. Surfing looks like it's so fun. Even being terrible at it is so fun. You just wipe out and it's so fun. Oh, I didn't finish my neck story.
Starting point is 02:00:43 Oh, your neck. Yeah, we're super high. We're super high. Sorry, folks. Sorry, folks. Feel free to. I went off on an alien autopsy. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:00:50 It's not a great story. It's just if someone's listening, they might be like, what happened to your neck? Right. The doctor turns to me and he goes, because I was like, what is it? Am I dying? And he goes, you have the neck of a seven-foot man. Whoa. That's the end of that story. So you have a very long neck. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Why I brought this up, I'll never know. I think I was talking about my weird body. Now you're looking at my neck. It's normal. I'm hunching. I gotta hunch it. Yeah, you could like a wrestler. Like a pro wrestler. I want to come back, because the Handsome app also makes my shoulders big and stuff.
Starting point is 02:01:26 It's cool. CRISPR was just used to successfully treat some disease. What? I bought CRISPR. I don't have many stocks, but I got CRISPR and Tesla. Oh, good moves. What was it, Jamie? He said he bought it.
Starting point is 02:01:40 I was like, okay. Oh, stock, bro. I get it. Where's CRISPR? Yeah, that's a lot of money how much do you have jesus you bought crisper and tesla you found out holy fuck bro but um here it is three people with inherited diseases successfully treated with crisper so this is um what the real uh fascinating thing about crisper is is that they're going to be able to cure a bunch of diseases through it. And here it is.
Starting point is 02:02:10 Two people with, boy, say that word, beta thalassemia. And one with sickle cell disease. disease no longer require blood transfusions which are normally used to retreat to treat severe forms of these inherited diseases after their bone marrow stem cells were gene edited with crisper so they dude they fucking edited their bone marrow stem cells that's where we're going holy shit the preliminary results demonstrate essence, a functional cure for patients with beta thalassemia and sickle cell anemia. A functional cure. So they figured out a fucking cure for sickle cell, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:55 I think this is where. That's crazy. That is crazy. I think you're going to go to your doctor with your genes soon. Yes. your genes yes i think what we're looking at now is the tip of the you know the tip of the iceberg the beginning steps of this kind of technology they're going to be able to edit people they're going to be able to make you the rock you're going to look like the rock can they shrink my neck they're going to shrink you know they're going to give you a body to match your neck they're
Starting point is 02:03:20 wrong seven feet tall yeah yeah you have to be the rock i saw yeah. Yeah, you have to be The Rock. I saw The Rock years ago. He was at my gym at Gold's. We were going like 2001, like early young Rock before he was. Guy got a stack of hamburgers, probably 12 hamburgers usually. He's enormous. You don't realize how enormous it is until you see him in real life. You're like, oh, criminy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:39 But in the future, like that's an anomaly to be that big, like as big as he is and handsome and so charismatic. But all those things are an anomaly for them all to be together. But what if you could just edit someone's genes and turn them into a specimen like The Rock? It would be real weird, man. Oh, you think they could edit how you come out? I think they're going to be able to edit how you are. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Jesus, son. That's America. Got a fucking flag in the background. Built like a brick shithouse. Determined. Covered with real sweat that he earned. You fucks. That's an American. You pansy-ass fucks. That's the greatest American that's ever lived.
Starting point is 02:04:18 I mean, I think it might be tough to edit your jawline or something. No, they're going to just inject you with some fucking super architectural. Oh, the whole thing they have mapped out. You pick what you want to look like. Map out your frame, and then you just shake. Do you remember that movie with, god damn it, I'm going to remember what it is.
Starting point is 02:04:39 It was a Vietnam movie, a real trippy movie with the guy that was in Shawshank Redemption. What was his name? Oh. Oh, crap. The white guy. Tim Robbins. Tim Robbins. Okay. Tim Robbins was in a Vietnam movie where they gave the
Starting point is 02:04:59 Jacob's Ladder. That's right. The idea was that the whole movie, I don't want to spoil it, but it was kind of like LSD or some psychedelic-induced dream that the government gave him, a psychedelic and gave him this crazy,
Starting point is 02:05:13 induced, fucked-up dream. But that's how you'd go. So they would put you in some fucking cocoon and you'd shake like this lsd people in jacob's ladder like and then boom you'd come out the rock that's what's going to happen there's going to be no exceptional people there's going to be no people that are any different everyone is going to be perfect but then it's going to be like living in that jay-z video every day everyone's going to get bored i don't believe that's going to be perfect. But then it's going to be like living in that Jay-Z video every day. Everyone's going to get bored. I don't believe that's going to happen. It's going to happen. We're going to fuck it up.
Starting point is 02:05:49 We're going to fuck it up like we fucked up the environment and the ocean and birth control. We fucked up everything. We fucked up everything we've ever done. We're going to fuck it up because we fuck up everything. We fuck up everything and then we figure out what we fucked up and then we try to unfuck it. Right. Well, I'll tell you this is what's next. There it is. Jacob'sacob's ladder 1990 and this we will for sure fuck up
Starting point is 02:06:08 because with the tesla car and they're they're solving vision now they're going to be able to put this in robots they'll be able to walk around your house and like make your sandwich and when you get a a robot girlfriend or boyfriend uh that can make you laugh, has all this information, does do all this. She's nice. What is gonna, and then when you wanna be alone, she goes into the closet
Starting point is 02:06:31 and turns off. What is this gonna do with relationships? Well, it depends if you're a bitch or not. It's basically the same thing as the other things we're talking about.
Starting point is 02:06:40 You can't live in a Jay-Z movie forever. You can't have the fucking hot maid that just sucks your dick anytime you want. You have to have a relationship hot maid that just sucks your dick anytime you want. You have to have a relationship with an actual human being. Now, wait a minute.
Starting point is 02:06:48 I'm talking about... That's more fun than the robot fuck doll lady cleaner of your house. But, Joe, you could program robot fuck lady to be kind of a bitch sometime. You can program it to the point where you don't notice a difference. It wouldn't be real. It wouldn't be her decision. You want a human. You're always going to be annoyed with something that's not a human. It's going't be her decision. You want a human. You're always going to be annoyed with
Starting point is 02:07:05 something that's not a human. It's going to be too easy. It's like playing a game of Quake with God mode on, where you can't be killed and you're just running over everything. You get bored. Part of the fun is you can get shot in the head. But it's like a chess app. You go to the higher level. It's not real, though. You know it's not
Starting point is 02:07:21 real. Until you don't. And then when you don't, it becomes effective again. But while you know it's not real, you're never going to accept it. Well, you know this robot lady will just suck your dick. You're like, suck my dick, robot lady. You can't even get hard. She's blowing you. No, you asshole. Suck your own cock.
Starting point is 02:07:35 You know, she gets a little spicy with you. You don't want that, man. It seems like you want that because you can't have, you know, what that is. You can't have a beautiful woman who's like wearing lingerie, who just does whatever you want and it's like... But you're still thinking she's going to do what you want. You can program her to be exactly like your last...
Starting point is 02:07:54 But then why am I paying for her to just be a regular person? This is bullshit. I can just get a regular person. She could be from the South one week with blonde hair. Look, you're in a good relationship, but imagine guys who can't get laid. That is where I think we need to remove part of their brain so they believe that robot's real.
Starting point is 02:08:09 I'm not against that, actually. And the robot's programmed to make them a better person. The robot is programmed to be almost like a great woman in your life is. Inspires you to be a better version of who you are. I think this is what's going to happen. Yes, we could do that,
Starting point is 02:08:21 but they have to be morons. They have to be morons or the robots have to be way better than they are right now. They have to be like the simulation has to be better than actual reality so that you initially submit to it. I disagree. Yeah, it's like a Republican tax plan they talk you into. Like, listen, eventually this is going to work out in your benefit. But right now you've got to submit to leaving all of your consciousness in this alternative, recreated dimension.
Starting point is 02:08:47 Don't worry. Your physical body will be safe and fine. We're going to offer you a five-minute trial, but here's the pros. You never have to worry about your bills again. Everything is paid for, and you live like a rock star for the rest of your life. And you stay alive the same amount of time. So what are you doing? Do you really want to just fucking? struggle and get beat up by the cops and and fucking lose your job because of Corporate and there's they're downsizing. They don't give a fuck how much money you put in this fucking company
Starting point is 02:09:14 Would you like would you want to do it the hard way or would you want to stay alive the same amount of time? but we just connect you to a machine and the Memories and life that we give you is far more exciting. It's amazing. You're a superhero. You're the king of the world. You're on top of everything. You live like you're Dr. Manhattan. But it's not binary like that.
Starting point is 02:09:35 You can have something a little in between. Maybe not. Maybe once they hit the switch they say, listen, just try it. They give you a free weekend. They 100% give you a free weekend. They give you a free weekend. They 100% give you a free weekend. And everybody gets it. Everybody. You get the first hit free.
Starting point is 02:09:49 But I thought Mike liked working at the sawmill. He doesn't anymore. He wants to be Dr. Manhattan. He wants to be one of the watchmen. He wants to be on Mars just jerking off. That's what he wants to do. I wonder how popular that one would be. Oh, yeah, I picked the Mars jerk-off package.
Starting point is 02:10:05 Do you think we're in a simulation? Are you someone who buys an iPad? I'm way too stupid to know. But smart people do. Elon does. Again, go back to Elon. He thinks we're in a simulation. Okay, so he's smarter than both of us.
Starting point is 02:10:18 I should say this. I don't want to put words in his mouth. I think he's very open to entertaining the idea that we're in a simulation and that it's very possible that we're in a mouth. I think he's very open to entertaining the idea that we're in a simulation and that it's very possible that we're in a simulation. Yes. But I think it's a factor of what actual life is. That's what I think.
Starting point is 02:10:31 What do you mean? I think what we're thinking of us being in a simulation, I think maybe we need to look at it even bigger. Like maybe that's a factor of what life is. That life always has this weird fucked up theatrical quality it always feels fake and it's influenced a certain amount by the way we think not just it's not just a physical thing just like when people are mad at you it feels terrible like if you said something at work to a guy and you regret it and you
Starting point is 02:11:00 got to go there the next day and see him you got to run into him feel bad we feel bad I feel bad like people feel bad when they have bad interactions with each other. We're not just like we're not just We're definitely not Individuals that are disconnected from everyone around them if people around you have bad feelings you feel bad There's no getting around that so there's some shit going on with people It's way deeper than just just like words and looking at each other there's like energy that's being transferred back and forth between people it just hasn't been defined yet well i'm definitely a little high because i was really hard for me to follow but also they found recently, we are pixels. Do you know that?
Starting point is 02:11:49 The smallest, the plank length, I think it's called, we're like a triangle. So you literally could make this. You actually, you don't touch anything. You know that too. You never actually touch anything. Atoms don't touch. I mean, that's another, there's some things that are disturbing.
Starting point is 02:12:06 But if someone touches you, they touch you. By that, you could say, no one ever rapes anybody. It's just like, no one ever touches. Well, I guess you have to define the word touch. You never actually. No one ever beats anybody up. You can't touch each other. No assault is real.
Starting point is 02:12:20 Well, now, look. No car accidents are real because no one ever touches anybody. I'm still offended you don't care about my lawn. But listen. I do. I you don't care about my lawn. But listen. I do. I just don't want it to be plastic. The point is they're going to make robots, robot girlfriends. And I don't know which sex. This is a good question for you to answer.
Starting point is 02:12:35 Which sex will be more mad? The females got these guys who have these sex, these robots that are, they're not dating anymore because they love this. Or women, or will men be mad because women are totally satisfied with this guy that's like, what happened at work? What? Oh, Teresa's a bitch. All the, what if all the robots that the women chose were seven foot Jamaican dudes with dreadlocks?
Starting point is 02:12:56 That's what they wanted. That was like the most popular robot fuck dolls for ladies. They're called opposite Kyles. Just giant super athlete, big dong fellas with dreadlocks. Probably. Yeah. Those would sell well. I mean.
Starting point is 02:13:11 White guys would be so mad. Everybody would be mad. I mean. A lot of dudes would be upset. You think about how many old people are sad and lonely. Their wife died. Their husband died. And then you can give them this.
Starting point is 02:13:22 Viking dick. This Viking dick. Giant dude. Just a huge blonde man. Bang your grandma. And then you can give them this- Viking dick. This Viking dick. Giant dude. Just a huge blonde man- Bang your grandma. With scars on his face. Yeah. His shoulders have dried blood splattered on them.
Starting point is 02:13:32 And he just gorilla fucks your grandmother. He listens good to her, too. He gets so hard looking at her, too. And he wants to know about her stories. Oh, he gets so hard. When she crochets, he gets hard as a rock. Can you imagine? You got your grandmother a fucking Viking robot fuck doll.
Starting point is 02:13:49 Oh, what a gift. He shows up with wolf skins around his shoulders and shit. Your grandma here? Yes. Yes, Thor. She's right this way. Just dragging a fucking axe with him as he walks in the house. I think we're 20 years away from this.
Starting point is 02:14:05 I'm not, I don't think that's ridiculous. It's not ridiculous because here's the thing, man. If you think about what makes someone attracted to someone, right? If you say, okay, well, a guy would be attracted to a woman who has a great personality and she's fun to be around. She's got a pretty face and a nice body. But that's some evolutionary code. The same reason why a woman is attracted to a big, giant, strong man. Like, that's good genes.
Starting point is 02:14:31 Like, there's some evolutionary code. What if they got in there with the crisper and just fucking monkey wrenched that shit and you only sexually attracted to dying people? Like, that's it. Like, they could send you to, like, a cancer ward and you just go on a fuck fest yeah because that's your thing and syphilis run these dudes that live in this cancer ward they're like dying you know but if some hot robot lady that they program or that some person they just program the person thing attracted to that the person thing though you'd ruin that person's life but But a robot. Yeah, a robot.
Starting point is 02:15:05 Victimless. But what if the robot's so good that it's really indistinguishable from a person? Then when does the robot have rights? We've got to get on this robot right thing. Look, man, we can't make that mistake. As human beings, we've already decided that other humans that aren't like us are not equal to us? What if we eventually invent a fucking robot that has all the characteristics of us, including it feels pain
Starting point is 02:15:32 and has emotions, and we decide that it's not? Oh my god, have we not learned from all of the years of horrors that we've inflicted upon our fellow man? We're gonna now do this to these sentient robots? But we gotta try to make them. We're not gonna stop. I to these sentient robots. But we've got to try to make them. We're not going to stop.
Starting point is 02:15:49 I always go to that scene in Ex Machina when that lady just leaves. When she hops in that helicopter, she just leaves. And he's, open the door. He knows he's going to suffocate in there. He's pounded on that big, thick plexiglass. You know he's never getting out. And she just, no emotion, walks towards the helicopter. What if this is a simulation? hour this has happened over and over our job is to create the machines that then
Starting point is 02:16:10 like our purpose we find out is to create the machines that makes a lot of sense and this just happens over and over these these little beings that get a little smart and then they make us again and then we make another universe i had a joke that I did a long time ago about the Big Bang Theory. That like what if the Big Bang Theory is just like what people figure out. Like they get to a point where someone
Starting point is 02:16:35 and it takes like 14 billion years. They get to a point where something can invent a button. You press that button. It resets time. And then they're all sitting around staring at it and one dude with like auto he's got like autism and he's on red bull yeah and no one's ever touched his dick and he's like fucking i'll press it boom right and he presses that button and bang the whole universe explode and then contracts and then starts all over again
Starting point is 02:17:01 yeah and it's a big bang and every 14 plus billion years we figure out And it's a big bang. And every 14 plus billion years, we figure out how to make a big bang. Yeah, I mean, maybe we've... If you think about what we're doing and what we used to be able to do, think about when I was talking to you about the Comanches and that pistol, that was a big deal in 1840,
Starting point is 02:17:19 that someone figured out how to make a revolver, right? That ain't shit now. You keep going, way, way, way, way, way, way, way into the future. Why is a big bang button preposterous? I don't think it is. No, and we're clearly missing so much information. Like the big bang.
Starting point is 02:17:35 Right. I need way more information. Dude, it used to be how small? Right. The whole universe was smaller than the head of a pin? In the gut, and our guts aren't right a lot, but it just doesn't seem, it seems like there's a huge piece. Bro, I put that story right up there with Elisha and the two bears. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 02:17:53 Same story. Yeah. Who the fuck knows what happened? But we know. Elisha and the she bears killed the 42 boys. We got some data, at least. The she bears got zero. You got zero you know we have yeah we have this sound it's coming from 14 billion years ago whatever it is 13.9 billion years ago the weird
Starting point is 02:18:12 thing is we're missing gravity is weird where does that go well not just that like what about dark matter like explain that to me dark matter and dark energy explain it they don't really know they know what it does they know the impact it has. Yeah, that's why they call it dark matter, because they're dark on it. It's crazy. I had fun interviewing my dad on tonight's episode of Triggered. We covered many topics, but there was only one thing I really wanted to know. Are aliens real?
Starting point is 02:18:39 Fair question. Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to scroll down. There's aliens, because this is the only thing I really want to know. I want to know what's Hold on. Hold on. Scroll down. This is the only thing I really want to know. I want to know what's going on. Would you ever open up Roswell and let us know what's really going on? He's terrified of his dad.
Starting point is 02:18:54 Doesn't say so. Doesn't say? It's a teaser. It's coming out tonight. Oh, my God. Son of a bitch. They got us. They got us.
Starting point is 02:19:01 They got us. Aliens? No, these fucking people who got us to tune into this event. I do want to see that. They got us. They got us. They got us. Aliens? No, these fucking, these people who got us to tune into this event. I do want to see that. They got us. They cut it off right at the very, can't you just, if it's so important, can't you tell us? What's with the suspense? You're supposed to be the president.
Starting point is 02:19:15 This isn't about ratings. Are you an alien? Do you think aliens are here? Yes. What are you basing that on? Just my imagination and hopes and dreams. I say no way. And I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 02:19:28 First of all, people understood how far away other stars are. Oh my God, you're so right. If people understood the idea of sending a video from a phone to another phone in a matter of seconds, do you know how crazy that is? That sounds impossible. It can't be done. First of all, what's a video? How is it made?
Starting point is 02:19:46 And how does it go through the air and land perfectly on Kyle's phone? Airdrop? What the fuck is an airdrop? All those things do not disclaim what I'm saying. Don't. You wish you were smarter. You're just so. Every day.
Starting point is 02:20:04 I just was a little bit. No, but. Discredit. Right. The speed of light. You physically can't go faster because your mass would be infinite. So we got our closest stars four light years away. It takes a second for light to go to the moon.
Starting point is 02:20:17 That took us almost a week to get there going 18,000 miles an hour. Yes. Going for four years. I just. And also, if you've got to to go that far aren't you going to say hello and you're not just going to be in the sky and just i don't know well you everything you said is very good very important i don't think that all we know about propulsion and the ability to travel through space and time is the same right that's a civilization that's been around for thousands of years longer than us is the same as a civilization that's been around for thousands of years longer than us.
Starting point is 02:20:47 So if there is a civilization out there, and I'm not saying there is, but if scientists believe that there should be, I mean, there was a recent thing they were talking about. They're doing some sort of an equation about our own galaxy that said there might be as many as 36 intelligent life forms in terms of planets occupied by intelligent life forms in in our galaxy so they don't really know they're just kind of guessing but you gotta assume that if it happened once in the right set of circumstances it could happen again if given enough time and the planet doesn't get blown up now if what we know about people in 2020 i mean we have like we're talking about
Starting point is 02:21:25 sending videos through the air and fucking SpaceX is shooting people into space again, docking at the space station, and there's a lot of crazy shit we're doing that didn't exist at all 100 years ago. So if we went 1,000 years from now, how fucking bonkers would be the inventions?
Starting point is 02:21:41 You've got to assume that each invention exponentially encourages more inventions to branch off of it. But it doesn't always. would be the inventions well you gotta assume that each invention exponentially encourages more inventions to branch off of it but it doesn't always mean when you look at we started off with planes you know the wright brothers and then we very quickly get into propellers and jet engines and then we were rocketing you know to the moon and like this and then so we were like oh in 85 we'll have flying cars because that was the trajectory and it just went well they do have flying cars they just don't use them and they just went. Well, they do have flying cars.
Starting point is 02:22:06 They just don't use them. And they're not very good. But they do exist. You can do it. But the ones that we were imagining would be in the 80s. Yeah, totally. And probably, I mean, that flattened off. But there's also problems of everybody having a helicopter.
Starting point is 02:22:21 You know, helicopters were supposed to be the next form of transportation. When a helicopter was invented, it was invented to, people thought that it was going to replace the car. You're going to be able to just fucking fly around in a helicopter. In your neighborhood. Which is so badass. In your neighborhood.
Starting point is 02:22:31 It'd be so loud. It'd be this fucking twat. Always lands a fucking helicopter when I'm trying to take a nap. But that's, I think, it's still, it doesn't mean we can't do it.
Starting point is 02:22:43 You could, everybody could have a helicopter. It's just not practical. People can't afford it. Everybody could have a helicopter. It's just not practical. People can't afford it. You can't land them. The sky can't be full of helicopters the way the goddamn road is filled with cars. We'd be dying. We'd be slamming into each other left and right.
Starting point is 02:22:55 How would you make clear lanes and paths? Maybe it could be done. Maybe it could be done in the future. Maybe it'll be more efficient or more energy efficient or won't, you know, they'll be electric. So it won't fuck up the environment or something. I don't know. Yeah. But they can do it.
Starting point is 02:23:10 I mean, on the alien thing, I a hundred percent think there's life on other planets. I mean, just, they found every star that they've looked at, you know, they've got telescopes have planets around it. They didn't know that until recently. So then you have to multiply how many more um chances there are of life and it's uh well not only that it would be bizarre if it wasn't the pictures they have of these planets are dog shit they're nothing yeah they're nothing you probably like you can see pictures of the moon and they're awesome pictures but pictures of planets in other galaxies you get like a speck
Starting point is 02:23:41 you get like a speck or they just they recognize by the way the sun wobbles sometimes. They find, yeah, they find what the star is and they recognize that there's like a certain kind of a wobble to the image that's coming. So they talk. Pretty cool. Yeah, pretty cool. Yeah, pretty cool. So they figure out that a planet circling it, but there's no like real good photos.
Starting point is 02:24:00 Like we have photos of Venus. It's insane, right? Like you see the, like Saturn or Jupiter. Jupiter's photos are amazing, man. Pull up a photo of Jupiter. I have a telescope. Look at Saturn, man. See, that's a photo that we have.
Starting point is 02:24:16 Just imagine if you were floating around near that thing and you could look at it and realize here's this lifeless massive object that shares shares a solar system with us I have a telescope on in my lawn I can see Saturn's really really I can see Jupiter's moon oh dude you're one of those guys it's 845 million miles Wow but keep pull up a Jupiter photo I remember there was a an event that happened. I don't remember what year it was, but a giant asteroid slammed into Jupiter. Oh, yeah. And they realized, like, oh, wait a minute. They are way bigger than we thought.
Starting point is 02:24:56 Like, when that happens, an asteroid slammed into Jupiter, and the explosion was larger than the size of the Earth. Yeah. They have pictures of that. I think that's true. Yeah, they do. I might have made that up. No, you're right, I think.
Starting point is 02:25:09 Look at that, man. Like, that's the impact. We need that big planet. Look how it changed the color of the stripe. I heard that we're... That's so crazy. We wouldn't be here without Jupiter because it scoops up a lot of the asteroids.
Starting point is 02:25:23 Yeah, apparently it's so massive that it sucks things into it. It said each SL9 nucleus hurled material into space, which left a large scar when it fell onto Jupiter. God, it's so amazing to think that there's these enormous Miami-sized rocks just flying through space. And they could just slam into us. And then everything's off. Everything's off. The electricity, the power, the lights, the sun. You can't breathe.
Starting point is 02:25:54 You know, if you're anywhere near the impact, you're dead instantly. Anywhere near with hundreds of miles, thousands of miles. Even in the atmosphere, I hear you burn up just from the heat of it. Dude, you're so fucked. You're so triple-double fucked. That volcano that you were talking about earlier? Mm-hmm. When's that supposed to blow up?
Starting point is 02:26:13 Because that'll kill everybody, right? It's a caldera. Super volcano. It's a volcano that they didn't realize was a volcano until they started using satellites, I believe. They just thought that it was seismically active. Hot springs. Yeah, beautiful. So pretty.
Starting point is 02:26:27 Danke viel. And then one day, is that the actual impact? Oh, my God. You can see the impact. Look at that. Watch how it hits. And it breaks up. Back it up. Watch this.
Starting point is 02:26:38 Look at this. Here's how it hits. The gravity breaks it up, I think, before it hits. And so there's like a bunch of little pock marks. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Look at that. So that explosion apparently was
Starting point is 02:26:50 the size of the Earth. What if that wasn't what it was? Find out if that's true. I could maybe use aliens, bro. Find out if that's true. Was that explosion the size of the Earth?
Starting point is 02:26:59 I think we shouldn't check any of what we were saying, just in case. Let's just not check. I don't know if I'm right, but I think it's somewhere in that range. But if that hit us, man, that's a wraparound. I think the red dot's about our size, the red storm. And the thing is, man, there's fucking holes all over this planet where it hit.
Starting point is 02:27:17 Oh, yeah. Things hit here all the time. There's no rhyme or reason to it either. It's not like they wouldn't hit us, man. We're really close to 5G nationwide. They don't give a fuck. Those rocks are flying out of nowhere. And by the way, if you really want to see an end to racism,
Starting point is 02:27:35 it'll be when a giant rock is coming from the sky to kill us all. Then you realize how stupid it was to care. That's what's going to happen. What were we all trying to feel different? Racism, sexism, any kind of discrimination, homophobia, all of it's going to seem so stupid when you see a rock flying out of the sky they're like my god i've been so distracted yeah i don't know if they can even knock those things out that was a little exaggeration it says one group of astronomers estimate the object to be 16 and a half 65 feet across. Oh, same size.
Starting point is 02:28:05 Roughly. But the explosion, didn't they say the explosion was some massive amount? I thought I remember that too, but that's not what I'm seeing. What are they saying about the size of the explosion, though? Because that was the thing that they were stunned by. They were stunned by the actual size of the impact area, even though it is a gas giant.
Starting point is 02:28:21 So I don't know how the fuck it even... What is happening? Maybe there's a hard core or uh the bottom probably right i don't even know how stupid am i it's a gas giant it's just a gas it's just a you know i would say that real confidently if i knew someone was gonna question me i'd be like well you know jupiter's a gas giant yeah oh. I'm very confident when my work can't be checked. Venus, hottest planet in the solar system, and it's not the closest, and it's because of greenhouse gases. Is that true? Which we're pumping into our atmosphere.
Starting point is 02:28:53 Wow. We are. You can melt metal on the surface of Venus. Yeah. Things. I do notice more fires. Mm-hmm. Well, the climate's certainly shifting.
Starting point is 02:29:01 I do notice more fires. Mm-hmm. Well, the climate's certainly shifting. But this is my point. Not that there's anything wrong with recognizing that we're doing irreparable harm to the atmosphere. We definitely are. But we also should be aware that even if we weren't, this motherfucker is not stable. No.
Starting point is 02:29:19 It's not. Even if people had a zero impact on the environment, absolute zero. We don't take out. We don't put back. It's perfect. It's a perfect balance and harmony. We're still zero. We don't take out. We don't put back. It's perfect. It's a perfect balance and harmony. We're still fucked. We're going to die before that.
Starting point is 02:29:31 We're still fucked. We need to wrap your head around that. I suppose that could be worded that way, that it was an Earth-sized explosion. It does say that. I mean, when you compare a picture of Earth. I told you, son. Look at that. I told you, son. It would be close to the size.
Starting point is 02:29:42 I told you, son. I told you, son. Isn would be close to the size. I told you, son. I told you, son. Isn't the air nice in LA now? I mean, I used to have to clean soot off my porch all the time, but now it's like- Well, they burnt all those buildings down and just cleaned everything out. Which ones?
Starting point is 02:29:55 All the ones they burnt down. Oh, from the riots? Yeah. Yeah, but the no working is great for the air. Terrible for the economy, but super good for the air. If you are buying a $30,000 car, you have to buy a Tesla. We're doing a Tesla ad. A long one, too, right?
Starting point is 02:30:12 I just feel like... Has it been long? How much are they paying us? A lot. Good. They're paying us with... He keeps making cool shit. It's amazing, though.
Starting point is 02:30:18 That's all you need. Yeah. I just want him to keep making cool stuff and succeed. That Roadster is fucking vaporware though, son. What do you mean? There's nothing coming out. You don't hear a goddamn word. I want the Roadster, Elon. I love the truck, but where's the goddamn
Starting point is 02:30:34 Roadster? Well, everything got bumped. What? Coming? This is three days old. What is this? That's a Taycan, bro. That's a Porsche. See, new Tesla Roadster next to Porsche Taycan. That's the Roadster? It could be a CGI version, which it does look like it is. Looks super CGI. Doesn't look real. Is that
Starting point is 02:30:49 really the Roadster? Oh, it has the roof on it. It's not real. Oh, I see. God damn, it's beautiful, though. It's gonna have rockets in the back. That is what it looks like, though. Even though that's CGI, since my eyes suck anyway, for me, i could be tricked
Starting point is 02:31:05 you know what i can't be tricked by though model cars what do you mean when i see a photo of a model car even if it's perfect it's so weird you're i don't know what that is there's a thing going on it's a microscopic like the shadow isn't right something you you're not conscious of whatever it is i'm'm like, bullshit. I call fake car. But you know what I mean? Like, how do you know that a model car is fake? But you do.
Starting point is 02:31:32 I haven't honestly tried. Jamie, do me a favor. Jamie, can you put some model cars? Google. What do you got here, buddy? I'll tell you. The flying Tesla. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 02:31:41 It lifts off the ground. That's not happening. Zero to 60 in 1.1 seconds? What in the fuck is that? Oh, that's right. It lifts off the ground. 1.1 seconds. That's not happening. Zero to 60 in 1.1 seconds? What in the fuck is that? Oh, that's not the base model. With the thrusters. With the thrusters. What kind of nonsense was I just talking about?
Starting point is 02:31:53 What was I just saying? I mean, it's just been two hours of nonsense. Jamie, anything? It's hard to hear and read at the same time. Oh, model cars. You can tell the difference. Please pull up a video or a picture, rather, of a model car. Pull up a
Starting point is 02:32:07 1969 Corvette model car. Let's see that. That sounds pretty reasonable. Also, because it's a plastic car, the Corvette is actually a plastic vehicle. Maybe that would be better to look at. But, Jimmy, also, or pull up a real one. Let's see if you can tell.
Starting point is 02:32:24 I'm trying to see if I can find a photographer that does magic and see if there's a good photo. Magic. I don't want to look too hard. But just give me a regular one first. Just give me a regular one first to base it off of. Because there's some instantly you'll know. And I don't know
Starting point is 02:32:40 how you would ever describe this to other people. Let me see if I know. That's a real car, bro. I know know that car that's actually a real car okay you son of a bitch that's a what that is is a first of all make that bigger again because i'm a dick as hard as a rock that is a goddamn beautiful that is um generation three that's a generation three corvette maybe like uh i think between 67 and like in the early 70s that one's got the side pipes and they got an extra wide body kit on it and i got a boner that's america yeah don't go away from that car go back to that car son go back to that car no no go back
Starting point is 02:33:21 go back here's the thing it's not because that one's got a bold white stripe right down the fucking nose. That's ebony and ivory. They live together in perfect harmony on this 1969 Corvette. I love the message of that. Yes, with side pipes and flared fucking tires. That's what you don't get from an electric car is feeling an engine and pulling on a shifting gear. You don't get that. You don't get the wildness.
Starting point is 02:33:44 You don't get any Leonard Skinner going on the back of your head. Yeah, you know. You just get a... But it's still, it's better. It's like if I had to choose like one car to drive
Starting point is 02:33:54 for the rest of my life, would it be a hot rod every day or a Tesla? I'd be like, I'm going to take the Tesla. I remember the hot rod. It's going to be always awesome. You have the fastest Tesla.
Starting point is 02:34:03 It's amazing. That's real. Also, just never going to the gas station. That's such fastest Tesla. It's amazing. That's real. Also, just never going to the gas station. That's such a pleasure. God, it's so pretty. Just pull up a model car. Okay, that's a model car. I don't...
Starting point is 02:34:16 Is that a model car? It's hard to tell. It's a shitty photo. Yeah, the steering wheel is... It looks a little fake, but it's a shitty photo. It's hard to tell. The resolution's not very good. Go to model car photos. That's what I have. That's literally what I. It's not the resolution. It's not very good. Go to model car photos. That's what I have. That's literally what I typed in. And that's not what's coming up.
Starting point is 02:34:29 Oh, these cunts. They're trying to trick you. There's one. It's not a good picture. All right. Let's try model car 65 Mustang. Let's try one of those. Because the problem with these is like it's probably not as many model.
Starting point is 02:34:43 I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of... I would assume there's got to be an Instagram account. Someone's got to have one. Oh, yeah. Someone must. Like, click on that. I know what I will have.
Starting point is 02:34:52 A model car. Click on that green one with the box. That's a fake one? Yeah. Okay. There you can tell that's a fake. It's really small. I can't see it.
Starting point is 02:34:59 That's fake, too, though. Yeah, it's hard to tell. It's all blurry. That looks fake as fuck. No, but make it larger. That's a perfect example, actually. Look. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:07 Like, something about you is like, nah, player. Right? You look at that. Yeah, what is it, though? I don't know, Jamie. Look at it. What is it? Something about that.
Starting point is 02:35:17 I mean, where it is, it's like in the middle of a white. I don't know, man. I know it's little. I wonder if you put some people around that and some tire marks. No, no, no, no. I think even if you CGI'd people onto that picture that were normal-sized people relative to that car, just keep it still
Starting point is 02:35:34 for a second. Even if you CGI'd people on that, you would still be like, I don't buy it. There's something about the perspective. Here's one of the things. It's because it's a photograph, right? It's not a digital photograph because you look at how it blurs in the background am i right Jamie a little bit that's just added in oh it's added in yeah okay could be with the camera but I think that's also you recognize
Starting point is 02:35:58 perspective and you're like just by the way the light is playing off that thing it seems off yeah it does have a force tilt shift perspective, which wouldn't normally happen, which gives things a miniature look. Yeah. Right out of the gate, it makes things look fake. Right. That might be a real car that they made look fake. Right.
Starting point is 02:36:16 It's amazing what happens in your subconscious. We're not even sure what's wrong. That has no blur on it. That has no blur. See, that's a shitty picture, though. Yeah, I know. You really kind of want to look. I'll look at my Instagram account.
Starting point is 02:36:26 Yeah, I bet there's a lot of dudes who are seriously into those fucking things. Miniature cars. They have like... Cool dudes. They have little displays of them around their house. Would you like to see my... Anything you collect, I think it's women aren't into. There's nothing where women are like, oh, that's cool, you collect X.
Starting point is 02:36:44 Do you think when no one's around they make the vroom vroom sound? Oh my God, I had a roommate once. Do you remember when Star Wars came out with the two-sided lightsaber? Oh yeah, that's right. Darth Maul. I had a roommate in New York
Starting point is 02:36:56 who was starting to just stand up and everything. I come home, he's on his bed going wow, wow, wow. A grown man. I bet it made him feel happy. but then I he felt he came to him in the middle of the night they said listen you don't have to live this life anymore you live the same exact amount of years but you're gonna live as Darth Maul is there a time where you would have changed your life I assume no look at dark time like you know i'm gonna switch this up no i enjoy life i'm having fun
Starting point is 02:37:26 yeah but i think uh i enjoy there's there's like weird challenges to life that's part of what's fun about it like the part of what's fun is overcoming the things that are not fun just like figuring your way through problems and getting better at things and learning things and criticizing yourself and all that shit yeah we're having if you go into the matrix man. Oh, that's over or the thing I there the thing I don't think is right about is I think you can program the matrix to be annoying and hard 100% if you're gonna program it to be life just fuck it up and make it life life is now and then like that's the Natural course progression. That's the only way to keep entropy. It's the only way to keep things moving. It's like you have to have good and bad.
Starting point is 02:38:09 You have to have all the things together. It's the only way things get done. You have to have struggles. Otherwise no improvement gets made. You have to have trauma. Otherwise love is not appreciated. You have to have all those things. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:19 Yeah. Absolutely. That's like, like, like a rich, you know, like what's the thing that people load the most? It might be a rich son. Absolutely. That's like a rich, you know, like what's the thing that people loathe the most? It might be a rich son. Absolutely. A son who's arrogant, who didn't have to work for it. He's a piece of shit and he's mean to people. And he's miserable.
Starting point is 02:38:34 And he didn't do anything to get it. That's a miserable fuck. I'm the happiest when I'm working really hard on something. And when it's done, like when you make one of those videos and then you get a bunch of positive feedback from it, that's gotta be amazingly satisfying. Yeah. I mean, I do it for free.
Starting point is 02:38:47 And also like Kurt Metzger helped with that last one. Well, Kurt's, Kurt's hilarious. He's great. And we're doing, we're working on making a show and it's like, we're working so hard and no one is even asking for it,
Starting point is 02:38:58 but it's, it's really satisfying. And I feel like you just keep doing those goddamn Instagram videos. If you can just keep doing them goddamn Instagram videos if you can just keep doing them like it's undeniable it's so good some of those are so good they're so mean yes when I look back oh yeah well Bill Maher asked for I mean he I didn't want to make a video Bill Maher getting gang banged but he came on this program and he said my impression sucked. He was asking why.
Starting point is 02:39:28 What am I supposed to do? Sit there? Listen, I'm on your side with that one. And by the way, it's very funny. He should be laughing at that. That shit was hilarious. Even if you hate someone's impression, you have to pretend you like it. There's no saying.
Starting point is 02:39:42 You can't lie. You can't say it's not good. It's really good. Don't lie. When you said, oh, let's play it, he was like, I'm leaving. He threatened to leave if you played it. And by the way,
Starting point is 02:39:54 I'm really not mad at Bill Maher. I like having a nemesis. It kind of feels good. I like Bill Maher a lot. I agree with a lot of what he says. The rants that he's been doing during COVID have been the very best. You know, the rants that he does at the beginning of his show. I haven't seen them.
Starting point is 02:40:11 They're great, man. They're great. He's doing them with no audience, but they've been really funny and really good points. It's like he's actually ramped it up during this pandemic. Some of those beginning of the show rants are excellent. He's a great writer still. They got great writers, man. It's a treasure.
Starting point is 02:40:29 That show's a national treasure. But he did get gangbanged in my video. In your video, he got gangbanged. Both those things exist together. Exactly. But also, he acted like, all right, anyway. Yes, he got a little bitter because he pretended he didn't exist. I went to Hawaii with him in his private plane.
Starting point is 02:40:46 Yes. I was like, I don't know him. Now, in his defense, I'm sure I was invisible to him and he forgot me. But like, yeah, we went to the beach, we went to dinners. And then he kind of got, because he did know about the videos. And he told you he didn't. And then he kind of, anyway, listen. Listen.
Starting point is 02:41:00 He's fine. I get it. But I think with all due respect, I think he's just looking at it the wrong way. I think it's funny, and I think it doesn't make him any less brilliant. It doesn't make his show any less great, and the show is great. I think we both admit it. The rants are brilliant. They're brilliant.
Starting point is 02:41:17 I love his rants. I've tweeted a few of them out and said, like, bravo. I tweeted them out. It pained me to make a video where he was getting gangbanged did it really hurt hurt me I didn't want to do it it should it's so funny man it's so funny and this is coming from a guy who's a fan of Bill Maher I was laughing hard that I love that you showed your wife and she was like what's wrong with you there is a comedy is, you know, it's different tastes, different strokes.
Starting point is 02:41:46 Yeah, it is. But it's also like, come on, man. If you lighten up, it's almost all funny. I mean, there's some fart videos. I think fart videos can, or there's a place for them. I don't think. There's a place for them. But some people don't like them and I hear about it.
Starting point is 02:42:01 There's a place for them. Yeah. Yeah. A good fart. One of the funniest, that movie Norbit with Eddie Murphy. Never about it. There's a place for them. Yeah. Yeah, A Good Fart. It's one of the funniest. That movie Norbit with Eddie Murphy. Never saw it. I saw it two nights ago.
Starting point is 02:42:10 It was amazing. He plays three people in the movie. Like, I didn't see it. I think it came out in 2007. I didn't see it. Dude, there are some... Wait, Norbit? Norbit, yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:19 Eddie Murphy plays like a nerd character. He plays the nerd's wife. And then he plays this guy who owns this orphanage. He plays a Chinese guy. Dude, it is amazing. It's so funny. The funny parts, the moment where he hits the big laughs, you're like, holy shit, that's him and him.
Starting point is 02:42:37 Yeah, I mean. So that's Eddie playing the wife, this enormous woman who rescues him from a sandbox, spoiler alert, when he's a little kid and basically kidnaps him, makes him become her husband. And she has, one of her brothers is Terry Crews and the other brothers are two dudes who are built just like Terry Crews, just big fucking giant dudes, just super jacked. And they're all trying to run some scam on this lady and Norbit has to fucking step in and save the day. Dude, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 02:43:05 Can we get the- It's so silly. It's so fun. Like, I laughed so hard at this movie. So hard. These are the kind of movies that I want to watch now that are just ridiculous. So silly. To take me away from.
Starting point is 02:43:15 Can we get the Rotten Tomatoes on that? It's probably like 3%. Dude, they can suck my dick. That's a great movie. It's a funny movie. What does Rotten Tomatoes say? 9%. 9? Wait a minute. They're wrong. Joe, I believed you until I saw it. Dick, that's a great movie. It's a funny movie. What does Rotten Tomatoes say? Nine percent.
Starting point is 02:43:26 Wait a minute. Joe, I believed you until I saw nine. You got to trust me. They're wrong. They're wrong. Sacrifice the sacred plant to the fire gods and watch Norman. How did they get a nine, though? They're assholes. A bunch of assholes in the world.
Starting point is 02:43:39 They hate life. It's fucking great, man. I want to see it. Listen, I know it's funny. I laughed hard at that movie. I laughed hard They just were looking for it to be something else. I mean the movie was basically like absurdist like it was really funny man and and Eddie Eddie Murphy played this racist Chinese guy who would say
Starting point is 02:43:59 Racist shit to oh, that's him right there, but it's him saying it It's not a Chinese guy. And it's in 2007, so it flies. Because he probably couldn't even, Eddie probably couldn't even get away with doing that today. Like, people would get so upset if they didn't realize it was Eddie saying that to Eddie. Do you think we'll ever
Starting point is 02:44:18 get back to a point where I think we already brought this up, but like, you can do some other culture. I know you can do up but like you can like we can do some other culture I know you can do Italians and you can do
Starting point is 02:44:29 but you can make fun of Italians Irish people English people you just can't like make fun of anybody that we decide is disenfranchised
Starting point is 02:44:38 or recent immigrants let's say it's flips okay and then like Asians are like running America. Right. Can there be comedy where a white guy does an Asian? There can be that right now.
Starting point is 02:44:51 Nobody cares. I think they do. I think you can't do that. Listen, man. A black guy can do white face with zero problems. Yeah. And it's because there was never an Al Jolson for white people. Right?
Starting point is 02:45:03 Isn't that what it is? Probably part of it. Fucking dancing with the white gloves on. What is that? It's bad. On top of everything else, what's... I would pay a thousand dollars for an Oculus game that puts you and me
Starting point is 02:45:18 in the front row. We both put the headphones on. Just to be uncomfortable. We sit down in Apple boxes and we watch a minstrel show that's in a tent in the middle of Kansas in the early 1900 1900s when you're like oh my god should i just kill myself like if you know how this thing turns out that's one of the last places if i could go through time or put one of those oculus things on would be i would it seems like it would just be really uncomfortable dude dorothy was happy she got picked up by a goddamn tornado she was happy yeah brought to the land of Oz.
Starting point is 02:45:45 Oh, yeah, yeah. She got to see all kinds of, she got ruby slippers. Oh, her poor life. Hear about like the munchkins were molesting her, and she was getting like. The real munchkins? I don't know. Yeah, there she is. That's her, Judy Garland with blackface? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:46:00 That's crazy. It was a normal thing. She went blackface with buckwheat hair. She doubled it up. God, it just. That's crazy. Normal thing. She went blackface with buckwheat hair. She doubled it up. God, it just. That's crazy. Wow. But that was a normal thing.
Starting point is 02:46:13 It's like they decided that, I guess they decided that they wanted to put black people in films without putting actual black people in films and making them famous. So they said, we got to work around here. We should make white people black people. films and making them famous? So they said, well, you got to work around here to make white people black people. And everyone's going to know. Like, did they know what Al Jolson looked like in real life? I don't know. Or was it like Kiss in the 70s?
Starting point is 02:46:36 I have a problem with Kiss because I had a roommate in college who loved Kiss. And he had a girlfriend in our little tiny dorm room. Oh, no. So it's like a college where it's zero degrees out. You have the windows open. I have to get up because I'd be breathing frost. And he would bang this girl.
Starting point is 02:46:54 And he just loved Kiss. And he'd take triple disc acid, go out and stare at the sun and come back. And then one day he rearranged our furniture. So I come home and the door won't open. And he put the refrigerator in front of the door. And he's like, I rearranged our furniture. So I come home and the door won't open. And he put the refrigerator in front of the door. And he's like, I rearranged the apartment. I'm like, you can't put the, we can't open the door. He was just so high.
Starting point is 02:47:13 Anyway, I associate Kiss with him. And so I'll never like Kiss. Boy, that guy can sell, though. Gene? Oh, he sells. He sells. Paul Stanley can sing his ass off too there's some great fucking songs kiss had some great songs come on and love me you ever hear
Starting point is 02:47:32 that song how's that go wish i could play it for you i get pulled off the youtube i know beth what can i do that's a great song it's a good song I want to rock and roll all night. I don't party every day. I don't like that song. That's not bad, I guess. I have too much kiss trauma. Oh, you got to let it go, man. It's a great band. I had the total opposite. My uncle was an artist for the very talent company, or the advertising company
Starting point is 02:48:06 that did their album covers. Oh, those are great. Yeah, my uncle worked in the place. God, I'm trying to remember the name of the album. This is Paul Stanley right here. Gene Simmons, son. Old school. Branding was so good.
Starting point is 02:48:19 This is like Kiss Alive Two Days. I know what the fuck this is, son. You know what the fuck's going on. This is a great, this is a great fucking music, man. For me, it just locks me into that time. So you can't show it because then they'll charge you a royalty? Oh, man, life. Dude, we had Gary Clark Jr. did a cover of Midnight Rider.
Starting point is 02:48:41 Cover of it. And we played the cover through Instagram. What did they charge you for that? They took the fucking... They just take your money. Give me that fucking money. That's ours. I cannot make money.
Starting point is 02:48:50 They own the song. Yeah. Even the cover. Which, by the way, he needs to release that. He needs to release that. If I do anything before I die, I need to talk Honey Honey and Gary Clark Jr. into doing another version of Midnight Ride.
Starting point is 02:49:07 That's got to be here before you die. Have you ever heard it? No. Can I play it for you? Yeah. Play it for them. How much does this cost? Take the money.
Starting point is 02:49:14 These fucks. These fucking thieves. You fucking thieves. The one that they did on the Instagram. Yeah. It's just it's so distinctive so good but they
Starting point is 02:49:27 they fucking they have like YouTube copyright claims on all kinds of stuff like you can't show parts of films if it was up to me I would start off
Starting point is 02:49:36 every podcast with Clint Eastwood talking to the Comanches these are my words of life and also my words of death these are my words of life ever see that in the Outlaw Josie Wales?
Starting point is 02:49:46 No. So this is them. This is a small club in downtown. And there's probably like... Sorry, who is this? That's my friend Suzanne Santo and Ben Jaffe. They're a band called Honey Honey. And that motherfucker behind the guitar is one of the baddest to ever do it.
Starting point is 02:50:03 That's Gary Clark Jr. motherfucker behind the guitar is one of the baddest ever do it that's Gary Clark jr. it's I just thought about being how long it's been since I've been in a club of any kind I know right I'm doing Houston next weekend oh yeah do they give you any I don't know restriction amount of people don't spit in people's mouths that was your big closer that's how I was gonna end no man just go have some fun they don't have like restriction on the number of people in the room or anything? 75% capacity. Okay.
Starting point is 02:50:30 They trimmed it down only 25%. Just take care of yourself, folks. Get your vitamins in. Get in the sauna. That's the thing. Take your vitamin D. Wear a fucking mask. Do what you got to do.
Starting point is 02:50:41 Is that true that D is the important one? It's huge. It's huge. It's huge for a lot of things. It's for muscle development it's huge for brain function it's it's a hormone apparently as well according to dr ronda patrick she's a lady's been on my podcast before she was explaining that all these people that were in the intensive care unit with covid a giant percentage of them like more than 80 of them in one study, had insufficient levels of vitamin D.
Starting point is 02:51:10 And only 4% had sufficient levels. And so then she told me that 70% of the United States is deficient in vitamin D. 70%. Because we're not in the sun as much? Exactly. And only 29% have sufficient vitamin D, which is just like bonkers. Only 29%—oh, no, no, no, excuse me. 29%—what was it? I want to say had insufficient.
Starting point is 02:51:36 No, 20—I'm fucking the numbers up. But there was a very small number of people. there was a very small number of people like if it was uh 70 or deficient there was a certain number of people that had insufficient levels to the point where they were vulnerable their immune system was vulnerable and they could get more diseases it was a large number i'm fucking up the number though i'm always low on d every time you don't go outside man if you don't go outside and you don't take it you're not going to get it. Yeah. I do take it. But what they're discovering is there's like a whole – there's a lot of things that have to interact together in your body to keep you healthy. You know, you have to have electrolytes. You have to have amino acids.
Starting point is 02:52:18 You have to have vitamins. You have to have all these things. And when one of them is missing and one of them is severely missing and a really important one like vitamin D, the whole thing gets thrown into whack and you get vulnerable. And that's part of what we're showing here. There's a metabolic vulnerability that a lot of people have. And it's not just that the virus is scary, but it's also that people have really fucked up immune systems because they're not healthy, because they're not getting enough vitamins. When you find all these athletes that catch this disease and shake it off like it's nothing you gotta go okay we're talking yesterday about these nba players that got
Starting point is 02:52:53 it no symptoms they just got it yeah and then they're fine all right i know a bunch of people that have got it like that like man i don't know i think this this is showing vulnerability in people's immune systems more than anything. We should be really concerned about that. On top of being concerned about spreading the disease, God damn, we've got to spread information on how to strengthen your immune system. Well, yeah. I mean, that vitamin D is probably a good tip. It's a good tip, but it's only the tip of the iceberg.
Starting point is 02:53:17 The water is important. Drink a lot of water. Stay hydrated. Have a lot of electrolytes. Have vitamins. All the vitamins. Whiskey, pot. Make sure you get high at least once a day so you can sleep good and be scared all the time.
Starting point is 02:53:29 There's a lot of shit going on, man, but we're only here on one side. Yeah, I've been in the doctor in a while. Knock on wood, I feel pretty healthy. I was diagnosed with celiac disease. You're going to be in the doctor after Bill Maher finds you. Should I be scared of him? I should be shivering. He might get aggressive with you.
Starting point is 02:53:49 What would Bill Maher do? Swing right for your dick. Don't shoot my dick with cocaine, Bill Maher. Okay, people. Here comes cocaine into your cock. Okay. You fuck. That's so good.
Starting point is 02:54:05 That's such a good impression. Anyone says it's not a good impression? Come on, man. I mean, I do a lot of impressions. They're not all good. Some are like pretty, I think my Elon's pretty weak, but my Bill's pretty good.
Starting point is 02:54:17 Your Bill's pretty good. It's very good. You have to shit on me. Your Caitlyn Jenner is her voice now. Yeah, baby. That's her voice now. I don't see her speaking any other way.
Starting point is 02:54:27 Why do you have those noises? Well, she does that because she's, I think she's alone a lot. She answers herself. You know, she'll be like, hey, I went to get some shoes. And she's going, yeah. I bought some Jimmy shoes. Yeah. How weird.
Starting point is 02:54:44 Where's Kim? Anybody that thinks that that's a superficial aspect of our culture today you're out of your mind that Bruce Jenner is now Caitlyn Jenner it's no big deal the weirdness of it not saying that she shouldn't be able to do that she absolutely should but the weirdness of that
Starting point is 02:55:01 sort of defines how crazy life is today it's almost like you're seeing these little hints when you're getting close to the end of the game the narrative's falling apart the fucking plot gets weirder and weirder you're like oh my god when is the big reveal he's at olympic and then at the end of it aliens yeah yeah well you watch that new now there's a new footage or simulation of the car crash. Because originally I thought the lady stopped in front of him,
Starting point is 02:55:28 but her, it was him, it was Bruce at the time. But it looks like now she just plowed right through these two people. Oh my God. And pushed them right into traffic, right?
Starting point is 02:55:38 And died. Yeah, one of them died. Yeah. I don't know if this simulation's right, but the one I saw in the new theory is that like- She was on her phone? Not that, they didn't know what she was simulations right but the one I saw in the new theory is that like she was on her phone Not that they know what she was doing, but the lady in front of her didn't slam on her brakes It was like they were coming to us. They were slowing down for her life, but we tell you how progressive I feel saying she yeah
Starting point is 02:55:56 I keep saying she she she's you are you're a hero. I think she was Bruce back then. Yeah, she was Bruce So what do you say about that? Yeah, Bruce did it. God, that Bruce can't drive, huh? Anyway, woman of the year, baby. That's what happened. Woman of the year after that. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:15 Right. Pretty soon after. Pretty weird. Kind of weird. How does the family feel that their mom died and then they're like, oh, the speech of the woman of the year. Yeah. My mom.
Starting point is 02:56:24 Pretty upset about that. Yeah. I mean, I don't want, I don't know what the accident was exactly, but it, it looks like a pretty bad. What's weird. How rarely it's discussed. That's what's weird. Well, it came at such a time where you, you were transphobic if you said anything about
Starting point is 02:56:41 her. So it was like the perfect timing for a murder. It wasn't murder. For someone getting away with it. Yeah. Yeah, everybody was so enthralled with the idea that she was beautiful. Like there was things you had to say.
Starting point is 02:57:00 Yeah, beautiful, hero, brave. And I'm like, hey, hey, hey. And also that was Bruce. And it was like you couldn't even say really comfortably Bruce anymore. And so Caitlin didn't do it. Caitlin didn't do it. Literally like she dodged the bullet. Perfect timing.
Starting point is 02:57:16 If you're going to screen someone into a Hummer across traffic, that's a good time. I wonder if that was what pushed her to come out. You know what? Can you imagine? Let's assume. Let's stop researching time. I wonder if that was what pushed her to come out. You know what? Can you imagine? Let's assume. Let's stop researching. Was she out before that? She definitely was having long hair.
Starting point is 02:57:31 Again, we're making up. We're just making stuff up. We don't know. You must be homophobic or transphobic. But that may have hurried things up. It might have been the catalyst. I would have. I'll tell you, if I did that and I was transitioning anyway, I'd bump up that appointment.
Starting point is 02:57:48 Imagine if there was like a PR guy and he's like, I got a plan. Well, I mean, anybody. You already have the long hair. Hey, everyone in your family with a vagina is making a lot of money. You're doing terrible. I mean, come on. Who's going to fuck you now anyway? Rob's next.
Starting point is 02:58:01 Let's get this party started. All right. Let's keep that action. Hush, hush. Look at my garden. You know what's funny about these celebrities? Do you know if she has seen it? Seen what?
Starting point is 02:58:12 Oh, I know Chloe made a video where she was like, we're mad at you. She kept doing that. That character? But didn't say my- That's hilarious. I have a video where they just all stay like- That's hilarious. So I think she saw that one.
Starting point is 02:58:23 Look, they must have a good sense of humor They've been taking abuse for More than a decade now Yeah I think mine's so cartoonish Yeah I know When you make the noises
Starting point is 02:58:34 Oh Ding ding yum yum Oh My two girls Bro I saw somebody Actually quote I saw somebody on Twitter that actually said, stop calling people Karens. It's misogynistic. And it's just a convenient way of you saying bitch.
Starting point is 02:58:56 Really? Yeah, this is so funny. People just can't stop. They can't stop correcting people. No. They can't stop telling people what to do. They can't stop. They can't stop correcting people. No. They can't stop telling people what to do. They can't stop. Their life is a fucking mess.
Starting point is 02:59:10 And they can't stop correcting other people. It's got to feel good. You got to get some charge out of it. Imagine you can't call people a Karen. I know a lot of Karens and they're really nice people. So fuck off. Yeah, Karens are great. The haircut I love.
Starting point is 02:59:22 A little angled haircut. But there's like women. Their name is Karen. There's nothing wrong with that. Oh, yeah. Act, Karens are great. The haircut I love, the little angled haircut. But there's like women, their name is Karen. There's nothing wrong with that. Oh, yeah. Actual Karens. But if you complain. You're a Karen. It's just going to stick around.
Starting point is 02:59:34 Someone's saying don't call women a Karen. Is a Karen. Oh, that's so dumb. You're so silly. Like, you should be laughing at all this. If your name is Karen, well, I could get why you're upset. For all these years, you skated by. And then for fucking
Starting point is 02:59:49 whatever reason, Karen became the complaining white lady. Do you know how? Was it first a Karen? Was patient zero a Karen? I have no idea. Maybe. It's a great name for it. It's a perfect name. Maybe that's why. It just seems perfect. Who else would it be? Karen's calling the manager. Helen? Maybe a Helen? Helen's too old name. Maybe that's why it just seems perfect. Yeah, who else would it be? Oh Karen's calling maybe a Helen Helen's too old right Helen's mean
Starting point is 03:00:09 Caitlin's to or Catherine Caitlin's owned by a gentleman forever. No kids calling their daughter Caitlyn now It's like just too risky. Yeah, Caitlin Caitlyn is on it's like you can't call your kid Madonna Right, right. You can't call your kid Caitlyn either. Madonna's parents shouldn't have called her Madonna. I don't think they did. Oh, she made that up. I think she, yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:30 Her last name was Cuccioni or something. Cuccioni. Something like that. I think she had a real name at one point in time in her life. She's fallen. She's, I don't know. Trying to be nice? No, I'm just like, I don't have enough information with anything I've said today,
Starting point is 03:00:43 and I guess I'm stopping myself. I hear rumors, and I let people know what I hear. Yeah, that's a good move. Just spread the word. Let the information seep. It's not stopping anybody else. No, it's not. It doesn't matter, even with all this information that's available.
Starting point is 03:00:57 Why should I look something up? Yeah, why should you? These fucks. They want you to do what they don't even do? They're bidding. There is a lot of conversations i don't know if you've noticed where where they you think you're having a conversation with somebody but really they're just checking if you agree with every single thing they're saying and then
Starting point is 03:01:13 you get this venom if you diverge from it's really weird but i've had a few bumpings with uh so that if you diverge from their ideology at all, they get venom? Yeah. I mean, the rage that comes up surprised me a couple of times. Like a cult feeling of you're saying the wrong, I don't know. What were the subjects? I mean, Black Lives Matter. I mean, you know, my brother's a cop, and so it's like
Starting point is 03:01:38 I have a little... Well, you are in a position, like, you agree, I think, with a lot of reasonable people that what that guy did was horrific. 100%. Murder, awful, and good, put him in jail forever. And there's definitely racism, and it's something definitely that we should. Well, there's also a personal issue with that guy and the cop, apparently.
Starting point is 03:01:59 You know about that? They apparently worked together, and then they had words. Oh, they did. Yeah. Because the cop was apparently very aggressive towards customers. Yeah. that they apparently worked together and then they had words they they had a comp yeah because the cop was apparently very aggressive towards customers yeah and they they got angry at each other over it so this is this is a personal thing in a lot of ways yeah but that said defunding the police is crazy that's a very dumb idea i mean they're underfunded yeah it's also the job i just know it's just so hard you imagine going to where people are being assholes every day, all day for decades.
Starting point is 03:02:27 And you've just it's just a they would never do this. But I think part of reform should be meditation. I mean, they would never do this. But if you wake up in the morning, you put a bulletproof vest on, you go to work, you say about your family. It's like it's really mentally anguishing. And this is not to say there's a race that's not something to deal with. I think it's great what's happening. But it's just I don't – I personally get when the pendulum is falling too hard the other way against police when the vast majority –
Starting point is 03:02:58 and my brother is just like a really nice, emotionally intelligent guy who's just suddenly getting spit on and stuff. It's just like it doesn't feel good. But I think people are being very short sighted. What is with that? You need the police. You need the police. You just need a better trained police. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:03:13 If, I mean, if the other side didn't have guns, I'd be like, okay, I take away their guns. But even then, man, you're going to have bigger, stronger people taking your shit because you don't have guns. Yeah. And it's not, none of it is good. You need a police. You just need, the police need to be better funded.
Starting point is 03:03:26 They need to be better trained. And they, like all of us, need to get better. I think the police of today are probably way better than the police of 50 years ago. But still, when you see what some of them have done to peaceful protesters while letting looters get away with it,
Starting point is 03:03:42 this system is broken. There's no way it's not broken. It's a huge mess. And hopefully, like you said, it'll get ironed out and stuff. Well, Minneapolis is going to be an interesting case study because if they do defund their police, I don't know what they're going to replace it with or how they're going to redo it.
Starting point is 03:03:57 I hope they redo it with more money, but it doesn't seem like they're going to. They should pay people more money because it's a fucking horrifically dangerous job, and they should train people much better, and they should train people more money because it's a fucking horrifically dangerous job and they should train people much better and they should train people more often that is it i mean yeah because if you don't get into a situation and often i mean you know from jujitsu probably you need to keep training to be calm yeah a lot of these cops and all that mistakes happening
Starting point is 03:04:20 because they're freaked out and their adrenaline's running yeah bad decision and they don't they don't have any confidence in handling themselves and all of a sudden they're freaked out and their adrenaline is running. It's a bad decision. And they don't have any confidence in handling themselves. And all of a sudden, they're in a physical confrontation with some guy who's been thinking about punching them for the last three minutes. The guy's thinking, when should I punch this cop? When should I punch this cop? No, sir. No, sir. I didn't think I was going as fast.
Starting point is 03:04:37 He's thinking, I'm going to punch this motherfucker. I'm just waiting for my time. And then, boom, all of a sudden, you're in a physical confrontation. You don't know what to do. If you get hit first, you're in trouble. And there's a gun in it's not like the cop has a gun yeah once you're wrestling it's a cops never know when to pull their gun and then there's also sociopaths all right you got guys who are cops they're sociopaths they can't wait to kill people they can't wait to shoot people yeah they want to thrill they don't feel anything in regular life
Starting point is 03:05:02 they want to be able to kill somebody and blame it on, you know, this person's a criminal or whatever. There are real people that want to shoot people. I mean, that's a part of life, too. And we've seen videos, man. We've seen videos of people shooting people and cops shooting people for no fucking reason. It's horrific. And I think it's just a symptom of the job, man. Because it's happening all over the place.
Starting point is 03:05:26 man because it's it's uh it's happening all over the place it's happening whenever it seems like whenever cops get ramped up and they have you know a lot of power and they're holding a gun there's a person in front of them and there's some sort of a dispute and they're yelling get on the fucking ground like that guy might get shot yeah that guy might get shot whether that guy's asian or european or black he's gonna get shot by the right guy in the right situation. And that's what the statistics show. Statistics show that although there are these horrific cases like that George Floyd case, when you get to watch it, there's less of those than there were in like 2015. There's less.
Starting point is 03:06:00 It doesn't mean it's good, but there's less black men are killed by cops now than there was before but one is too many you know and when you when you see that part of what you're seeing it's not just racism you're also seeing just the abuse that comes when someone has that kind of power over people and they're a simple-minded fuckhead and you've given them the kind of power that a cop has yeah some there's some bad bad fucking people man there's fun there's bad people that do every job man there's bad people that are construction workers there's bad people that are cops it's just yeah then the problem is when they fuck up it's so public and it's such a big deal because they have so much more power right their position is so crazy the
Starting point is 03:06:39 guy who has a gun who's literally telling you get on the fucking ground you have to listen to him yeah i mean no other time in life do you have to listen to a man tell you to get on the ground? This guy is actually working for you. He's working with your tax dollars you pay for the police Yeah, like this is crazy. This guy's about to shoot me and I pay him Yeah, you know and it's weird You know because if it was a regular guy telling you get on the ground He's like why you know cuz I smell weed like fuck you like you're just a regular guy But because he's a cop even though he's still a regular guy, he has all this power to tell
Starting point is 03:07:08 you what to do. It's fucking very strange. Like, just being a cop psychologically is very strange. In a lot of ways. You need strong people to do that job. That's what you need. You need to pay them well. It's just like, who now is going to be like, I want to be a cop when I grow up.
Starting point is 03:07:22 Somebody needs to come forth and say that. Some governor needs to say that in an eloquent way. Like, you guys are looking at this wrong. We need better people. We need to put more money into the community, more money into the police force, more money into training these fucking people. We need to make everybody safer. The way to make people safer is not have less cops and less funding. It's to have better cops, better paid cops, maybe even more cops and more funding and
Starting point is 03:07:46 make sure that they never fucking do that ever. And any abuse at all, you instantly get rid of them. Any abuse at all. Everyone's wearing a body camera. No exceptions. Every altercation gets reviewed. Any abuse gets reported and you can't do that, man. And if you don't know how to handle someone without getting abusive then you're you're doing an effective an ineffective version of that job and you're you're probably dangerous to other
Starting point is 03:08:09 cops because you're going to leave it in that person's head that cops are assholes cops treat you like shit cops hit you whenever a cop does that for no reason he doesn't just fuck over that person he fucks over all the people who watch that video, all the people who get mad at cops. And that's what you're seeing today. You're seeing this probably even though it's less things are happening to folks because of bad cops. More people are seeing it than ever before. Yeah. So our idea of what a cop is is just way out of whack right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:08:41 And that town in Seattle, what happened there there was no police and they just took over it's a festival i don't understand having fun i don't understand how they were like hey get scram the cops were like i can't go in there they don't want me in there yeah man i don't know how that's gonna play out i'm sure good i'm sure that will end well it's called the chas is that right yeah Yeah. Yeah. Autonomous zone. Capitol Hill, autonomous zone. They call it Chaz.
Starting point is 03:09:13 How did they get, say, leave cops and the cops left? What was that moment? Well, if I had to guess, it's because there's not enough cops. They're not well-funded. Weren't prepared for this. Bad government. A bunch of people that are anarchists all organized, got together, did something chaotic. Business owners fled. People panicked. They gave up power to these folks.
Starting point is 03:09:36 They were espousing an ideology that on paper at least seems sort of admirable, giving power to the people, getting rid of corruption, getting rid of some of the bad aspects of capitalism. There's all sorts of parts of it that sold people on the idea, but it's not good. They don't own any of those buildings. They didn't build them. They can't just take them. Because that's piracy. If someone just comes into your neighborhood and takes your fucking house,
Starting point is 03:09:54 that's piracy. Pirate. You can't just let these people take over this blog. It's the people's man. We don't allow money. Okay, well, you don't have to allow money, but you can't stop other people from using money you fuck. Just like we don't stop you from trading with tomatoes if you want to fucking try i'll
Starting point is 03:10:07 give you three tomatoes if you give me that camera if i'm like okay good deal well you're allowed to do that yeah okay but you're not allowed to tell people they can't use money so they have like a whole zone where there's no money like come on man this is step one to fascism you guys gonna make your own fascism and then there was a video i saw of this one guy was filming something so these other guys came over and beat the shit out of him. I'm like, oh, great. So then you treat one of your own the same way cops treat you. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:10:31 That's what will happen. Congratulations. They're eventually going to make up police. They won't call it that. Of course. There's going to be people that patrol. Do you remember the Guardian Angels? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:10:42 New York City. I was in traffic once. And there was this Guardian Angel. And this dude was like doughy, like little baby arms and a little gut. I'm like, this is crazy that this guy's protecting anybody from anything. And I'm looking at him with my friend. I'm like, hey, look at this motherfucker. And he looks at me and goes, double fingers.
Starting point is 03:10:59 Double fingers. Just stared in the windshield. We didn't even say anything. We didn't say like, hey, man, what the fuck are you guarding, bro? We didn't say anything like that. We just looked at him. I was like, look at this motherfucker. Look at this guy right here.
Starting point is 03:11:12 That's the guardian angel. He's out there protecting people. And he gave you the double bird. He gave me the double bird with an angry face. And I was like, oh, you shouldn't have that job. You shouldn't be standing in the middle of cars patrolling. Like what are you patrolling? Where was this in New York,
Starting point is 03:11:28 New York city. Yeah. And then the main guy was on a radio show and there was some sort of a scandal where like he, he said he stopped some sort of a crime that he, that didn't really exist. Oh, I think I remember that.
Starting point is 03:11:42 Yeah. When we were there, I saw him on TV. He's like still on the local news there. He still is? Mm-hmm. But wasn't there some... That's him.
Starting point is 03:11:50 I think so, right? Yeah. I think so. Yeah, that's him. Yeah. So it was real weird. They had the T-shirt on and the berets. They'd walk down the street,
Starting point is 03:11:59 and dudes had like... Look at that one dude. He has like... Look at the chain mail. He's got Kiss. Brings you right back to Kiss. Ah, damn it. He's got Gene Simmons wrist straps.
Starting point is 03:12:11 That's a cool idea. It's preposterous, son. No? What about like just their presence making people think twice about crime? If you see a guardian angel. Oh, yeah, bro. I hear you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:12:23 They had all the superheroes in Seattle walking around a couple years ago. Right. But that's different. Those guys actually knew how to fight. We talked about that. Well, not all of them, I would say. I don't know how many of them were actually trying to stop crime. These guys were actually trying to stop crime.
Starting point is 03:12:37 It was very strange. It was like organized vigilantes, unarmed, organized vigilantes. They had no power to do anything, right? Well, they could beat your ass. That sucks. When that guy gave me the double fingers, I was like, hmm, I just think you might be a little bit jumping the gun here. Imagine if a cop did that.
Starting point is 03:12:54 If you saw a cop in traffic and you're like, look at this fucking guy with his stupid blue outfit. He's like, eee, fuck you. You'd be like, oh my god, that guy shouldn't be a cop. Right. So why should this guy be a guardian angel? I Think we should vet if that existed we should vet them
Starting point is 03:13:12 But they disbanded Yeah, luckily Yeah, they fell apart, but that's probably what's gonna happen in a lot of these that police free zones You're gonna have weirdos who want to be fake cops wearing berets, wandering around, giving people the finger. That's in their code of what to do. There's a lot of people out there that don't understand the importance of the police.
Starting point is 03:13:35 You're fucking up, man. You're fucking it up for everybody else, too. Who are you going to call when someone breaks into your house? If there's no one to call, there's going to be more people breaking into your house. Oh, yeah. If they take away the guns from cops, I mean... Oh, my God. Bank robberies will be successful 100% of the time.
Starting point is 03:13:52 100% will get away. If there's no cops to call, what's going to stop you from robbing jewelry stores every day? AK-47s. Bro, it's so dumb. It's so dumb. This should be something where it gets argued, where there's a meeting where you show all the interactions that the police have had with with the community, all the interactions, every single one of them. It gets detailed and documented.
Starting point is 03:14:14 And then you say, well, how many of these were negative? And you look at it. If there was like three or four, like really strongly negative ones. What about all the positive ones? What about all the people that were protected? What about all the robberies that were stopped? What about all the robberies that were stopped? What about all the crimes that were prevented? What about all the people that were arrested that were murderers and rapists and all that?
Starting point is 03:14:31 Are you going to do that now? Or are we just going to pretend that that shit doesn't exist? Because there's all these interactions that the cops have, and there's some of them that are negative. You're right. No one's saying that's not true. But to throw it all out, if you were arguing that like from data from a data perspective if you're in a meeting and they're like look we have these these are the bad interactions and these all these papers are the good interactions
Starting point is 03:14:54 yeah like okay well rationally we need to stop that from happening how do we do that how do we how do we eliminate or at least radically reduce the number of bad interactions you'd work on that you wouldn't say defund the police. That's like a fucking virtue gesture. Like, look at me. We're going to defund. We're going to just plant flowers. Yay.
Starting point is 03:15:12 I might be ignorant, but I feel like it's called that to cause controversy so it gets attention. I mean, they said reform the police. Maybe I'm ignorant and they really mean to defund it. It just seems like. Minneapolis said defund specifically. Maybe they really mean to defund it. It just seems like... Minneapolis said defund, specifically. Maybe they're going to... If they give cops, like you were saying before, other jobs, then... They're going to have dudes with clubs with nails hanging out of them.
Starting point is 03:15:34 It's going to be dudes with baseball bats wrapped in chain mail like that Deegan dude. Deegan? Yeah, from Walking Dead. What's his name? Oh, yeah. Negan? Negan. That's his name, right? The mean guy who kills people with a baseball bat? Yeah, from Walking Dead. What's his name? Oh, yeah. Negan? Negan. That's his name, right?
Starting point is 03:15:46 The mean guy who kills people with a baseball bat? Yeah. Fuck that guy, right? That guy's going to be everywhere. Fuck that guy. He's going to be controlling Van Nuys. Yeah. There's got to be people like that everywhere you look.
Starting point is 03:15:57 I'd get a gun. That's another thing. If you take away guns from cops, then everyone has to buy a gun. Exactly. Dude, it's terrible. You can't do this. This is such a dumb idea. And also, you can't do it in a city where that thing didn't happen either.
Starting point is 03:16:12 It's not even the same people. One guy was a horrible person. And then another guy was a horrible person in Atlanta. But there's a million cops. Like, you can't. I don't know how many there are. There's probably close to a million. There's one million.
Starting point is 03:16:24 Probably close. A lot of fucking cops man yeah there's hundreds of thousands of interactions of that are not good that are happening all the time especially with the protests and stuff there's a lot of interaction and look I think everybody got the message
Starting point is 03:16:42 I think through this George Floyd thing everybody got the message and the people through this George Floyd thing, everybody got the message. And the people that are going to flare up that are still behaving the same way, like that guy who shot that guy in Atlanta, they get charged with murder, man, right away. Right away. Right away. Felony murder. He'd get the death penalty, that guy.
Starting point is 03:16:58 And he probably should. He probably should, the way he shot that guy. If he really knew that that guy had a taser that didn't even work. Yeah, it's murder. What's crazy is if you watch the video, the guy's compliant. I know, and for 20 minutes, like, can you just pull over? They don't want to do the paperwork. They're like, can you just?
Starting point is 03:17:15 Yeah. He's compliant, and he just wants them to get an Uber, right? Isn't that what he said? Didn't he say something along those lines? Apparently. They should have done that. There should be a way that you could ticket someone maybe even take their license away but like get them home don't fucking put them in a cage like they did something stupid and they shouldn't be allowed to drive they should definitely pay a fine they should definitely get in trouble for driving intoxicated for sure but
Starting point is 03:17:45 do you really need to be violent with them and lock them in a cage i don't know if that's the case and not in that guy's case the way that guy was interacting with a cop it seems like he just was fucked up and just wanted to go home suddenly it just went yeah because that's what we're talking about before like when a cop has to worry when he's talking to a guy the guy could be like super kind and just thinking about punching him in the face like if i was in a situation like in a movie like a born identity movie and there was a cop that was interrogating me and he was saying something to me and he kept closing in on me i was like oh my god i'm gonna have to knock this cop out okay i don't want him to know i'm gonna hit him so i'm just gonna be really compliant that's what i would do
Starting point is 03:18:21 yeah i would go well sir um i definitely didn't know that that was happening. No, sir. Well, and then bang! Out of nowhere. You got to be able to do it where they don't know you're going to do it. I saw a video exactly like that last night. This guy was just being really cool. And the cop was like, can I just check, you know, search a little bit?
Starting point is 03:18:40 He's like, yeah, man. And he's dead. They don't show the actual last moments but yeah that's how it goes down man it can easily go down like that where someone can pretend they'll pretend they're being nice to you and then they shoot you and the cops watch these they make them watch them say like this could happen but you know what's fucked up dude i was reading about the the comanches doing that the settlers too the people have always done that yeah everything's fine everything's fine then they fuck them up that's like an old trick yeah like i was reading this horrible story about or listening
Starting point is 03:19:09 to this horrible story about these commandos that came into this people's houses and uh they came in they just wanted their food they said let me have food look and then people fed them and then after they ate they said uh go now no hurt go vamos no hurt they're like they forced the people out of their own house. Yeah. And the people just didn't know what to do. They just like, let's run. They just started running across the field. They got about a half a mile.
Starting point is 03:19:31 The Comanches found them. And one lady who was pregnant, they cut the top of her head off. And they scalped her from the ears up. So they literally cut all, while she was alive, cut all the skin from her ears all the way to, they removed the top skin of her skull they cut it off and took it with them and they they shot her full of arrows and she survived for a couple days and gave birth to a stillborn baby no bro this is this is what people were capable of in 1840 right so just that's we're the same thing as those people we're the same thing and when shit
Starting point is 03:20:05 goes fucking completely sideways i was watching this thing in new mexico where this one kid hit this guy with a skateboard and then pulled a knife out on the guy and the guy reaches out of his fucking pants and pulls a gun and shoots the dude down and i'm like oh my god like this is that one of those like take down a statue rallies yeah it's like, fuck, people are losing their mind. I mean, it's not that kind of horrific violence is not that far removed from that shit that was going on with the settlers and the Plains Indians. It's not that far removed, man. It's like you're only a couple incidents away. Nobody thought we'd be seeing that on a regular basis.
Starting point is 03:20:41 People having gunfights on the street. A dude getting attacked by Antifa and he fucking lights him up with a 9mm and drops him while everyone's screaming. Who the fuck? When did you ever see that? That's pretty rare. Now there's like a new video every couple of days of something crazy happening.
Starting point is 03:20:58 Well now that we've cheered everyone up. I think I've been hilarious the past hour. You were very good the entire three hours. We've been here for three hours. Have we been here three hours? It's 3.20. Oh my God. It's 3.20 right now. What? Yeah. Anyway, sorry Jamie. Come on, bro. It's like, let me go home.
Starting point is 03:21:14 It's awesome. This was really fun. It's always awesome. Thank you. And I want to take this home. You take that home. You can have another one. You want another one? Yeah, I do. We actually have weed giveaway bags. Because here in California this one good thing, marijuana is legal. It's one of Yeah, I do. Give me a freshie. We actually have weed giveaway bags. Because here in California, this one good thing, marijuana is legal. It's one of the only good things.
Starting point is 03:21:30 Yeah. It's worked out. Yes. Oh, yeah. It's fucking really good. Have they looked at the crime rates since? That shows you how fucked up our government is. They can't balance the economy even with all that weed money. Is it helping at all?
Starting point is 03:21:42 Yeah, it's helping them get rich. Yeah. All that weed money. Think about how much more money is pumped into the economy, and these fucking twats can't manage it. Yeah. Let's go to that town. Which one?
Starting point is 03:21:52 Seattle. Oh, Chaz? Let's go to Chaz. Hang out. Yeah, sure. Let's dress like communists. Start our lives there. Well, I got to go.
Starting point is 03:22:04 I got so many important things to do. I'd love to chat with you guys. Kyle Dunnigan, ladies and gentlemen. Joe Rogan, everybody. Always fun. Thank you, brother. Always fun. Thank you, sir.
Starting point is 03:22:12 Yes, it was. Bye, everybody. Bye-bye. That was fun. We got into some serious stuff, too. We got super silly.

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