The Joe Rogan Experience - #1505 - Hannibal Buress

Episode Date: July 9, 2020

Hannibal Buress is a stand-up comedian, actor, television writer and host. Look for his new special "Miami Nights" available now on YouTube. https://youtu.be/kVc4-05Agf0 ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 hello hannibal what's happening man good to see you my friend good to see you too it's been a while last time i saw you was in thailand it was in thailand yeah that was two years two years 2018 yeah yeah that was random that was very random that's so crazy though yeah we had dinner hung out in thailand i was like this is wild yeah yeah at the uh it was in chiang mai yeah yeah I was doing Muay Thai. Yeah, that's crazy. So you just decided, just up and decided, I'm going to go there by myself for several months. Just a month.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Oh, you went for a month. Yeah. And trained Muay Thai. Yeah, I needed to reset after doing tag. I wanted to kind of just reset my brain after doing so much press because it was a lot of press and a lot of just you know repetition and so I need to go do something extreme to get into a totally different zone what was that do you ever train more time before No. I maybe took some classes.
Starting point is 00:01:08 The first day, so I went in Bangkok first. I went to like a small class. I just went to one, and my camp was in Phuket. Oh. And so all the gyms are outside. So the warm-up, I was drenched in sweat in like a 10-minute warm-up. I went, oh, this is good but it was it was dope man it was just it was it was nice to I stayed on the camp for a little bit so it was it was nice to just have that focus and live there and be there and and just uh work out and and lean into it it was cool how into it did you get did you ever were you ever
Starting point is 00:01:46 like hitting the pads going i think i should take a fight no i didn't know take a fight i uh but it was it was some times where uh my my kicks i'm bowlegged so my kicks are weird so like doing a roundhouse i wouldn't be able to so So my elbows were decent in my knees. And so some of the trainers, they started, that was my nickname. It was Elbow. Elbow, come on, Elbow. But my kicks would be so weak. They would be so weak.
Starting point is 00:02:17 It just hit the pad and it would just have a pitiful sound. It's not a thing that comes easily, especially when you're in your 30s and you're just starting to train. Muay Thai is... To move your legs like that and that kind of dexterity, it takes a while. It's a slow, gradual build-up. Yes,
Starting point is 00:02:37 the hips have to be looser. But I'm also bow-legged, so certain yoga things that I can't do or even sitting Indian style. But you seem normal when you're walking around. How are you bowlegged? Because I know some dudes that are really bowlegged. My walk is a little bit, it has a little bit to it.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And when I run, it gets really crazy. I don't look how I think I look in my head while I'm walking. I think the music in my head is, but my walk is kind of, my walk is way weird. I look at on camera, who is that guy? And what causes bow-leggedness? Is it an anatomy thing? I think it's an anatomy thing. Yeah, it's just like.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Let me see, stand up. So yeah, so that my knees don't touch. So it's a, yeah. But you seem normal. I'm not seeing anything weird. It's not crazy, but it's just, it affects my roundhouse game, you know? I could help you with that. I guarantee you.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I bet some stretches and some learning how to do it slowly. The thing about roundhouse kicks and any kicks in general is people try to do them fast. You really want to learn them slow. You got to resist the urge to try to hit things. What you really want to do is just go through the motion. Just go through the motion. Just slow. And do that for a long period of time, like many, many, many weeks.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Okay. These guys try to like, and then you wind up kicking up and you put all the strain on your ligaments and your supporting leg because you're not pivoting. They fuck themselves. And then it's hard to unlearn that. See, when you learn something, if you learn it wrong,
Starting point is 00:04:18 like when I used to teach, the worst students were students that learned something wrong. You would think like, oh, I already have five years of karate and this and that. And I'm like, oh, great. This should be good. It was never good. It was the opposite.
Starting point is 00:04:31 You're better off taking a young kid with no experience at all. They can get way better way faster because they don't have any bad habits. Because as soon as you get nervous or as soon as you get tired, you go right back to your bad habits. You go back to your – so you have to relearn everything. Yeah. It was seeing the kids. I went to some of the fights out there, and it's wild seeing the kids in the undercard where you're seeing seven-year-olds fighting. It's crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:04:58 This is wrong, but I got to see the main event too, so I can't leave. It's their culture. It feels wrong, but it's their culture, and it's also how a lot of the families make money. I mean, they literally send their kid off to the camp. But I was trying to figure out, and so it's part of the culture. It's national sport, but it doesn't seem, you know, you have people
Starting point is 00:05:25 it's some fighters that are legends there that's the equivalent to Mike Tyson or something and you could probably get a private with them for 400 bucks so what's going on with the model over there where
Starting point is 00:05:41 it's been a national sport for a while but it seems like the money isn't there? Is it corruption or what happened? Well, first of all, it's very inexpensive to go to the fights. You know that. Everything's inexpensive in Thailand. I mean, everybody's wearing flip-flops, right?
Starting point is 00:05:56 It's an interesting place. Like my friend John Wayne Parr went there when he was a boy. He was a young teenager and lived there lived as a monk you know he's a australian multiple time world muay thai champion and he he spent like a good deal of his time growing up there and really embraced the culture and he's like they're just first of all it's the land of smiles like everyone's everyone's friendly like one of the things i noticed there like people are genuinely very friendly there's very little materialism there. People are generally happy with wearing a pair of shorts.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It's never cold out, so you could wear shorts and flip-flops, and that's how everybody's walking around. And I don't think there's a lot of money in the business. I think there's enough- The king takes it. The king takes it. The king takes a lot. Remember, we took a picture in front of the king. We did.
Starting point is 00:06:45 We had a picture in front. I was like, I don't know if we should post this. Like, you and me smiling in front of a picture of the king. Like, you might get in trouble for that. There's weird rules over there for the king. The king, I actually had a bit about him. I cut it, not because I was scared, but just because it didn't fit. I cut it not because I was scared, but just because it didn't fit.
Starting point is 00:07:10 But it's about how you have to stand up during the national anthem. And they play it at certain times during the day. And they play it before the movies. So I went to the movies out there to see Ant-Man 2. And after the previews, the King of Thailand's hype video comes on, and everybody has to stand up. In the movie theater. In the movie theater. But it was the worst produced.
Starting point is 00:07:33 It was a terrible video. I seen Instagram fitness models with better videos than the King of Thailand. It's like, you're the king. Get some king-like production value. You ain't got no top-notch editors. I don't think Thailand's known for its films.
Starting point is 00:07:49 He needs to get on Fiverr or something. I don't work for Fiverr, by the way. Maybe, what's that new one that lost all the money? Quibi?
Starting point is 00:07:58 What is it called? What is it called? Is that it? Quibi? Yeah. Maybe get on that. I don't know. He needs something
Starting point is 00:08:04 because you're the king. Yeah. And you're putting your stuff in a Marvel movie? Do you see that shit with his mistress? He had an official mistress, but she fucked up and she got demoted. And so she had to like bow down in front of him, in front of everybody. Like she was talking shit. Like the mistress probably wanted to be the queen.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Like look at her there. She's like begging for forgiveness oh the king makes mistress lie at his feet and make her as what does it say as he makes her his what does it say there from the son but his official that was when she was the official concubine uh attended by his wife they were a wife in all capitals. But then he demoted her. This is when she became the official concubine. And by the way, I think that was the first time anybody had an official concubine, like 100 years. This is the flashiest version of,
Starting point is 00:08:58 I don't love that hoe. I don't love that hoe. I love you. Look. I'll shame that bitch in front of everybody. Look. She had to lie down at his feet. Look.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Fuck you. It's weird. It's like the king's the only baller. You see us? You see? That's bonkers. He's the only baller. The only baller. Like, everyone else is just kind of normal there.
Starting point is 00:09:21 It's the monarchy. He's marrying his wife here. She's the same thing. Oh, the wife had to do the same shit Wow And she's pouring tea on her head What is that I don't know
Starting point is 00:09:29 And all the people laying down Are they cleaning It's very odd He Good for him They seem to love him over there She used to be the She was a former
Starting point is 00:09:43 She was a soldier Bodyguard Former bodyguard Okay You take that weird hat off And come live with me That's a microphone cover Take that
Starting point is 00:09:56 That's this That's this thing Take that hat off Stop chatting that stuff Let's go have some tea I did enjoy Thailand though I enjoyed it a lot it's a good time yeah I went back last year did you the same thing who's that just for a little bit not the going on there
Starting point is 00:10:21 crop top what is this the monarch even threatened to sue Facebook over the startling shots taken in 2016 by a passerby who recognized the king. Oh, that's the king? Yoga class. Wait a minute. Soul cycle. Well, she has to wear the crazy hat and he's got to wear a sports bra? He's in Munich. Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:42 He kicking it. Okay. Yeah, the laws's over there. So people, I saw something about someone got put in jail for liking a post, making fun of the King's dog. Oh, yeah. I saw that too. Just is.
Starting point is 00:10:58 That's the next picture I saw. So that's just how he likes to rock it. He likes tank tops that show his belly button. That's cool. It's cultural. The king. Yeah. I'm the king.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yeah, he's the king. If I was the king of Thailand, I'd dress like that too. What the fuck are you going to do, bitch? Yeah, you can get in a lot of trouble for making fun of him over there. Yeah. Well, guess we're not going back. Well, we probably shouldn't for a couple years. Cambodia it is.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Myanmar. I want to go see, have you ever seen Letwe? Do you know what that is? No. That's like, if you think Thai boxing is extreme, they take it another level. Letwe, they use headbutts, and they kick you when you're down. They do all kinds of crazy shit yeah nah yeah i don't know kicked kicked wild down it's just it's it looks it's too intense
Starting point is 00:11:51 it's intense we had uh david leduc who's the uh the king of letway he came on the podcast he's a wild man he's a wild man yeah i i think about, they're bare knuckle too. Yeah. There it is. I just want some cardio. This is Let's Weigh. Look at this. This is how they fight.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Bare knuckles. It's basically like Muay Thai, but way more hardcore. See that? You can knee a dude when he's on his way down. It's way more hardcore. It's like one more level of hardcore. Andbutts a lot of headbutts yeah but they basically use all the techniques of muay thai but they just take it to a totally different level this the second time i went when i went to Koh Samui last year, and this girl I was seeing, we go to a couple classes, and I didn't know she had done Muay Thai before. So we had a private, and she was lighting the bag up with the kicks.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Oh, no. Bow, bow, bow. And I was like, oh. And then I get up there with my bow- with the kicks. Oh, no. Bow, bow, bow. And I was like, oh. And then I get up there with my bow-legged kicks. Pip. Pip. Oh, no. Then the trainer's like, come on, you can do better.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Look at her. Oh, no. She light it. Bow, bow. I'm like, let's not do kicks. Knees. Elbow, elbow. Had she fought before? I don't think she fought, but she had trained. Knees. Elbow, elbow. Had she fought before?
Starting point is 00:13:25 I don't think she fought, but she had trained a good amount. It was, yeah. She lit it up. But she was one of those people that, I mean, you can't tell people, but I had known her a little bit, but didn't know that. She kept it under wraps. Yeah. Was it uncomfortable after that?
Starting point is 00:13:42 No, it wasn't uncomfortable. It wasn't uncomfortable, but it was just like, whoa, unexpected. I didn't know. Yeah, there's something about women that can fight. Like, ooh, that's an extra element of danger. Yeah, see? A woman who can fuck you up. Like a hot chick who can fuck you up is like, ooh, that's nerve wracking.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah, man. you up is like oh that's that's nerve-wracking yeah man like if you're a woman like a holly home or like a you know world champion kickboxer woman like how what kind of man do you date like you got to date another savage yeah date a fighter you have to they can't they can't respect regular people they'll fuck you up. Unless they separate. Nah, they probably just have to. Unless they dominate you. They like to hold you down, make you eat their pussy, and just grab you by the back of the head. Sit.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Come on, motherfucker. Come on, motherfucker. Shut up. Yeah. I just jogged for 10 miles. That kind of shit. Drip, drip, drip. There's probably a lot of guys who are into that, though.
Starting point is 00:14:43 You know? Dudes are into getting kicked in the balls. They're into all kinds of weird shit. You can find somebody out there that's into everything. The getting kicked, that one, that seems extreme. Because it's like, what? Have you seen the videos of guys that are into getting kicked in the balls by women? No.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Oh, my God. I don't want to show it to you. No? Did you even say no don't want to show it to you. No? Did Jamie say no? I want to look it up. They're into getting kicked in the balls and getting their ball stomped on by stilettos. That's like a whole category of pain and torture. All those BDSM folks, you know?
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the stomping out seems, that's a, I don't know what would really lead you to that zone of extremes. Look, I love Jim Norton to death, but he likes chicks pissing on him and all kinds of crazy shit. People are into weird stuff, man. People living out there, man. They're living out there. People out there living, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Speaking of living. Yeah. I've been hearing some crazy shit about you. What have you heard? And I've been hearing that you are making a move. Like a very, very unusual move to a very strange place. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:56 It's very unusual for a man from Chicago to just up and take off. Yeah. I do want to get into that. That just reminded me that I bought some of those flamethrowers when they were selling them. into that that just reminded me that I bought Some of those flamethrowers when they when they were selling it Oh the Elon Musk one I bought them with the intent of reselling them in that and then my parents basement so I bought four that's a good investment. They're worth a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah, I got a yeah I gotta go check on them. Okay
Starting point is 00:16:25 So with this whole... You doing something crazy? I might. So COVID and just kind of being cooped up, it really made me think about how, you know, the places that I've lived and what was keeping me from living elsewhere and moving internationally is because oh you need to be here for work as some you have to
Starting point is 00:16:52 be right you know within a couple hours of these places to you the tour or film but now touring super weird are you doing any touring at all? No, what was last time you did stand-up Beginning of March me too until I did March in Denver two weeks ago. I did Houston. How's that weird? Yeah, we're first show was weird second show was normal so I can show was a show First show was like I can't believe I'm going to do stand-up again. Do you know Moses, Brian Moses?
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah. Roast Battle. Me, Moses, and Tony Hinchcliffe. We went to the Houston Improv. It was awesome. We had a good time. It was really fun, man. It was like the old days, but I got weirded out.
Starting point is 00:17:39 And I was like, man, I don't want to catch this shit. Like, is this worth it? Like, what am I doing? And then Houston, while we were there, they got this thing that they're moving back to stage one so they're going back so they're shutting all the bars down restaurants are down to 50% capacity
Starting point is 00:17:51 and I was like look you know we're not in the crowd the stage you've been to Houston Improv has it moved
Starting point is 00:18:00 in years I haven't been it's my first time ever okay it's nice it's a nice place and it's got a high stage so you're above everybody it's not like Has it moved in years? I haven't been in a second. It's my first time ever. Okay. It's nice. It's a nice place. And it's got a high stage.
Starting point is 00:18:09 So you're above everybody. It's not like they're spitting in your face. You're above them. Everyone was wearing masks. So I was like, this is probably safe. But afterwards, you know, it's just odd. It was just odd. And I was like, I don't want to get sick.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And most importantly, I don't want to get anyone sick. Right. So I so i was like you know my wife's mom lives down the street from us and i don't you know what i mean it's like what if i got a guest sick i had a uh i had a small jam session on my roof on sunday whereas initially it was supposed to be the band, handful of people. And then it didn't get crazy like everybody was packed. Everybody still kept their space. It was a reasonable setup. But with these times, it made it intense. And I had some mushroom drink that my friend Babylon had made.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And so I had a good time. I got on the mic a little bit. And it was cool and you know people were vibing everybody was excited to be there bands playing different people and then at one point I started looking around yo did I am I creating some type of super spreader situation like outdoors is maybe 15 18 people but I just started being like, oh, fuck, I'm about to be in the goddamn news for this party. Is somebody going to die from being in it? And it was just, I had the worst trip ever because of it.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Because I hadn't had any, you know, this is a new spot for me. So I hadn't had, it was just a lot of sensory overload and just thoughts spiraling. And my friend, one of my friends, she said, you all right? And I was just like, I was really, I was gone, dog. I had to take a walk around the block and it just, it was terrible because did I just create some type of situation where somebody could die from a fucking jam session just because I kind of got antsy about, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:16 wanting to do something, you know? And yeah, it was rough. I had, that was Sunday, I had some, a couple appearances or calls to do Monday. Canceled those. It was like no on camera today. I'm still pulling it back together. It was bonkers, man. Yeah, I got back.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I immediately got tested. And when I was clean, I was like, that's it. Yeah. I'm canceling everything for a while. Until they come up with some sort of a treatment or until herd immunity is kicked into the point where, you know, the virus has dropped down to a very low level of viral load and people aren't getting real sick. It's just, if everybody was healthy, I would have no worry. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:04 But I don't want unhealthy people to die or old people to die. Yeah. It's so complicated, man. You know, I have a few friends. I have like nine friends that have got it. Yeah. And everyone's fine. But what if they weren't?
Starting point is 00:21:16 You know? I mean, there's a lot of people that aren't. It's scary. It's weird. And we were just... Jamie and I were just reading this story about... Is it from the UK? I think it was the Mirror.
Starting point is 00:21:31 All these people that they're finding that have very minimal symptoms, but then they have this brain disease. Damn. Yeah, like some inflammation of the brain. And some of them had to be on anti-psychosis medicine one lady what did she saw lions in her fucking house yeah a new study that potentially warrant uh that warned that potentially deadly brain disorders may be a symptom of covet 19 even in people with otherwise mild disease the research published today by the journal brain looked at 40 adult
Starting point is 00:22:02 patients with covet 1919 in the UK, finding that they showed symptoms of a wide range of serious brain diseases. Many of the patients had only mild, typical COVID-19 symptoms, such as fever or respiratory issues. And for some, their neurological symptoms were the only sign that they were sick. One 55-year-old woman with no known current or historical mental illness was admitted to a hospital with recognized COVID-19 symptoms, including fever, cough, and muscle aches. She was discharged after two weeks, having been treated with oxygen. But four days later, her husband reported she was confused and behaving strangely. She then experienced hallucinations, reporting that lions and monkeys. She was seeing lions and monkeys in her house and became delusional and aggressive with
Starting point is 00:22:45 her family and hospital staff. She was treated with antipsychotic medication and her symptoms improved over the course of three weeks, although the study does not confirm whether she made a full recovery. What? Yeah, that's pretty bonkers right there. This fucking disease is bonkers. Because for some people, it ain't shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:07 I know some people that were asymptomatic. They went through the whole thing with nothing. They tested positive. They didn't feel it. They chilled. They just quarantined for two weeks. They got retested. They don't have it anymore.
Starting point is 00:23:20 They never felt anything. And then I know other people that months later, they can't go up flights of stairs. They're exhausted all the time. They got no motivation. Just everything feels, just the world's like they got a weight vest on everywhere they go. Oh, man. Yeah. Fuck this disease.
Starting point is 00:23:42 It's flipped everything upside down, man. That's why, so I've been thinking about. Where are you going? Thinking about going to Ghana for a couple months. You're not going to put it on? I'm setting you up. Show me the outfit. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I actually got this in. I got this in. I don't get to go nowhere so you you know it's you put on something fly every now and then actually and don't don't show this part don't show that part make sure you don't catch that in the camera uh but this is a this is from uh singapore a random jacket I got over the holiday. I've been thinking about going to Ghana just because I took an African ancestry test. Apparently, I'm Ghanaian on my father's side. And I think America is going to be, it's very annoying now, and it's going to be pretty annoying in November. So if I can get out of here October, at least for two, three months, just as an exploratory trip,
Starting point is 00:24:57 and get a different perspective to live from, write from, work from, and just a whole different zone for a bit and really dive in out there I think now is the is the time to fuck you I love the idea I love it especially now right you just released a special it's available free on YouTube right now yeah so like what better way to come up with new material than live in ghana for a few months right before the world explodes because it's gonna fucking explode no matter who wins man i'm nervous to be here no matter who wins it's because it's not a biden is not a it's gonna be weird because it's not something to really cheer for even if the
Starting point is 00:25:42 plan is for him to pass it off yeah and step down that's still weird yeah if that's not something to really cheer for, even if the plan is for him to pass it off and step down. That's still weird. Yeah. If that's not going to be – that's not smooth to step – hey, I'm old. I won. I'm stepping down. That's going to create a whole zone.
Starting point is 00:25:58 The only way that would ever work is if whoever his running weight was was preferable to him and everybody was excited about it like someone who you would have voted for anyway and we don't even know who the running mate is right now as of today july 8th we don't know who that is but if the running mate is preferable to him and we're like good he's gonna be a woman good give it to her let her run it if it's like that maybe we'll be okay but he's not even around he's hiding somewhere he's in a basement i i just am skeptical of him just because he he was vice president as an old guy for eight years that means he was just jealous just jealous look at old by. One day, one day.
Starting point is 00:26:46 That's too weird of a weight. It is weird. To make that move at this age, it should be a cap 60 for president. And I'm only saying 60 to be nice. It should really be like 50, 55. Well, when Reagan was president,
Starting point is 00:27:07 he was the oldest president before Trump. And then dementia. Yeah. He wound up getting Alzheimer's, right? Was it Alzheimer's? Uh, I think dementia.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I'll just never forget when I was a open mic-er. It was like 1988. There's a guy named Jimmy Tingle. It was a Boston comedy legend. He had this joke about Reagan on trial because Reagan was on trial. And they asked him if he ever sold arms to Iran. And he said he couldn't remember. And Jimmy Tingle was like, Mr. President, if you ever sell arms to people who hate us, jot it down.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Make a note. Put it on your refrigerator. Yeah, you should have some type of reminder. He went out, and we thought he was bullshitting. We were like, he's just pretending he doesn't remember. But then in the end, he didn't remember anything.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Who knows if he remembered that? Yeah, it's... The age thing is, there needs to be a sort of cap. Because why you shouldn't be, first of all, any ambitions you have in your 70s should be private things. Like carpentry or music production. It should be private. You shouldn't have anything at 70 that has to do with the larger populace. No.
Starting point is 00:28:37 You go knit. You go read and pursue something you wish you did when you were 32. That's not involving millions of people i say that but then i was i was willing to vote for bernie sanders i was a bernie sanders supporter before he lost you know in the primaries i i felt i felt like his policies were interesting like it'd be an interesting way to shake up the country let's put focus on on human beings and people and communities instead of just money and foreign interventionist wars i think bernie has some interesting policies and he should just
Starting point is 00:29:13 you know pass them off yeah put them shits on a pdf is he the only one i need if they can't be that good if he's the only one that could do it. No, he's not the only one. Pass him off and be the advisor on the side, you know? Yeah. Have a, you know, have, you know, just give advice, you know, guidance, be the wise sage. The wise sage. Sage. The wise sage.
Starting point is 00:29:50 But at that age, you know, the travel is tough on a young, healthy person. It's tough on us. Exactly. Yeah, when I got back from Houston, I had not done stand-up in a long time, and I was exhausted on Sunday. I was like, fuck, man, I forgot how tiring this shit is. Multiple flights, getting up in the morning, all that shit. Flights, getting up in the morning, all that shit. I am very curious now that this Jelaine Maxwell guy or lady got arrested. You know, the Jeffrey Epstein's confidant.
Starting point is 00:30:14 What? First of all, how quick before they kill her? Second of all, if they don't kill her, what is she going to say? And who's going down? Because there's a lot of people going down. It's pretty bonkers. That could affect the election. You think it could affect the election?
Starting point is 00:30:30 100%. 100%. Yeah, 100%. Well, first of all, Trump used to hang out with that guy. His picture with Melania and Trump and Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine and Fox News cut out Trump. They edited the picture so that Trump wasn't in the picture. And they're like, well, you made a mistake. Like, bitch, you didn't make a mistake.
Starting point is 00:30:52 There's the picture. They were posing, partying together. They hung out. I know at the end of the doc on Netflix, they said that he had all of those tapes and all of those rooms were being taped. So I wonder if she has access to that or that they burned that. That's a good question. What's up? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:22 You know, he had a picture of Bill Clinton in a dress in the foyer of his house. Damn. It's a crazy picture like you are my bitch Because he had killed Clinton flew with him like 26 times Look at that. That's a picture. That's a real picture. That was in the foyer of his house How crazy is that that's a real picture man, my friend Eric Weinstein has seen that picture in real life That's a real painting a. My friend Eric Weinstein has seen that picture in real life That's a real painting a painting. Yeah, not a photo
Starting point is 00:31:51 painting, I'm sorry But he also he made it Taunted he made him made it to let him know bitch. I own you I Mean that's what I'm a man. Look we're friends and then you came over to my house and I got a painting hey Hannibal I want to show you something it's you in a dress if you and I have been partying together and I flew you to some island and we fucked kids together and then you came over to my house and there's a painting of you in a dress
Starting point is 00:32:16 you'd be like what have I done yeah I just said it's all on fire laughing laughing just come in with a vest strapped up with dynamite. Boom! You know what? I don't deserve to live anymore anyway
Starting point is 00:32:31 for my actions. It's so crazy because it's one of those things where you would hear about that from like the craziest conspiracy theorists. Like, bro, there's an island. They take all these elites and they have these underage girls on this island You like get the fuck out of here with this crazy talk that is so that's crazy talk, and then you find out wait
Starting point is 00:32:50 It's true, and they had scientists there and lawyers there and politicians there like What there really was an island like they had the prince? What's his name Prince Andrew Prince Andrew was an island? Like they had the prince? What's his name? Prince Andrew? Prince Andrew was there? His part was funny because they said, no, it's this picture of you. Yeah, that is a picture of me, but I don't remember. Yeah, he was like, I don't hug. I'm a royal. Royals don't hug. He just kept it. Yeah, that but I don't I don't know what you yeah he's just blank face lie like that and just keep it no just keep it news or
Starting point is 00:33:33 what it is what it is well why did you see that interview that he did the full interview I just saw it in in the doc well there's an interview with him I forget who the woman was it was interviewing him, but when you're watching the interview You're like holy shit. Why did you do this? Like you know that you're guilty and you agreed to do this interview like this isn't even the cops This is like a reporter and you're talking to this reporter and you're clearly full of shit and really nervous This is great. The whole thing's crazy. Yeah, it's old money white guy confidence. But it's also, it's royal confidence, right?
Starting point is 00:34:10 They have real, well, they also have crazy libel laws in the UK. Like, they can get away with a lot over there because, like, they could sue you for all kinds of shit. And the royal family, I'm sure, is extremely litigious. This is the whole story. Here it is. Jelaine maxwell is allegedly secret video footage of prince andrew oh jesus porn hub here we come it just seems like we're in a movie man it's like the the movie just keeps getting crazier
Starting point is 00:34:39 and crazier yeah you know what i've been doing just to turn my brain off? Putting on that show The Floor is Lava on, and just look at something that is not intense at all. Just low stakes, chill, entertainment. Just escape a little bit. Watch people try not to fall in the lava. Yeah, my friend Rutledge, he's the host of that. He's a car guy. Shout out to Rutledge. Yeah, my kids love that. He's a car guy. Shout out to Rutledge. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:25 my kids love that show. Yeah. Sound off. It's a good sound off show. It's just red water. It's just red. You get it. You don't need to hear
Starting point is 00:35:33 anything they say. I don't care about your backstory. Oh, you're all doctors. Okay, I get it. Don't want to,
Starting point is 00:35:41 I don't know what nobody sound like. Play some tunes and watch Floyd's live. Just zone watch let it be yeah meditation is great yeah there's like those are the kind of things that are very they're very popular at times like this like we want cartoons almost we want things that are silly no stakes because you can it's so much it's so much news and every area has so much news right now so if you want it you can get it right now because every state has its own individual corona situation so
Starting point is 00:36:14 you can kind of get lost in the i'm getting you know lost in the california and illinois because that's where i am, where my family is. But then it's everywhere else. And then you kind of forget, oh, yeah, Atlanta's been open for a while. They're shooting stuff in Atlanta. They've been shooting and filming for a month. Oh, what's going on here? What the fuck going on there?
Starting point is 00:36:35 So it's just if you – I was able to do it earlier and kind of, oh, shut off and get off of socials at one point. And then things got more intense, the George Floyd thing. And then I got back in the news again, like really looking at stuff. And, yeah, I need a cleanse. I don't think people are supposed to take in the news of the whole world. I think it's very bad for you. I think because most of the news you're going to get is the news of things that are dangerous.
Starting point is 00:37:11 So you're getting things that are dangerous all over the world. So it gives you a distorted perception of the current danger around you. And it's, yeah. You think it's everywhere. And it's not, and most of it isn't actionable where it's news you can take. Okay, well, I'm going to do this. Right. Nope.
Starting point is 00:37:27 It's just you just take it. That's happening. Just get scared. So, yeah, man, you got to figure out how to keep it mellow, man. I watched Marble Races, the Marble Olympics. They race marbles? They race marbles, but the guy who sells it is the announcer.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Because he just he just, he's locked in the entire time. So he's created, they created this world where it's these marbles, and there's different teams the same way NASCAR, different teams. And so he talks about it in such a way. He doesn't break at all.
Starting point is 00:38:07 You know, NBA announcers, they veer off this weekend. No, the marble guy, he holds the concept together by just, yeah, you know, the marble races, da-da-da-da, the 12. And, you know, last week, he's talking about other races. Last week, they beat them by 0.3 seconds. How do they race marbles? They just drop them off. They just roll them?
Starting point is 00:38:30 They just roll them. This is it right here. And they just take the suit. So is there cheating? Like, what if someone oils the marbles? Do they get arrested? There's no humans on camera at all. It's just one guy or a couple people off camera.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Marbles in the stands. Look at that last week tonight with John Oliver. That's new. They've gotten big. They've got sponsors now. That's happened over the past few months. What? This video has a million views of marbles? Oh yeah. Get out of here to commentary. The commentary is what...
Starting point is 00:38:59 Desperately trying to better their last outing. You don't have to... It's like it's real Olympics. They do qualifiers and trials and finals. But there's no people at all. And look at the stands. There's marbles in the stands. We're losing our fucking marbles.
Starting point is 00:39:16 We're losing our fucking minds. But that's been going since 2016. That's oddly compelling. There's longer ones too it just shows the importance of execution over ideas are important but execution is really important because that's top-notch execution of what could be a terrible idea in the wrong hands marble race you give. You give me marble races, and it's not going to be that. Yeah, some people are designed to be a commentator for marble races. Look at this one.
Starting point is 00:39:53 It's got a little elevator, escalator, takes you to the top, conveyor belt. What's that, Jim? 1.3 million views on that. That's so crazy. That is so crazy. A bunch of people watching marbles while the world burns what's on got a zone out man yeah i get it i get it so ghana have you been before no i've been to nigeria and and kenya do you know anyone over there i I know a couple folks. Actually, what really, I told my brother I was thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:40:28 And he says, oh, one of my old friends from work is from Ghana. Let's all have a call. And so we get on the call. And then I'm thinking he's going to say, oh, restaurant recommendations. It's just some type of fluff kind of helpful but but the he took the trip so serious where okay we're gonna have you meet these people if you want to work on this we're gonna have you do this and you know and so it made me take it so serious where it went from being kind of an idea to i guess i'm doing this because i know it's gonna be kind of um laid out in a real structured way well
Starting point is 00:41:06 sometimes it when I've traveled I don't I haven't planned thoroughly like that so I think it's uh it's gonna be exciting man just to get in the whole a whole different zone I'm still youngish to live in another country look you're not married you don't have kids this is the time to do it fuck it yeah why not you know and you've been very smart with your money i know you you invest in real estate so you've got a bunch of shit going on it's making you money why not fuck it go it's a good move i like it i like the idea just of doing something like that where you completely take yourself out of the normal life because for a creative person i think you can run dry like in terms of inspiration and
Starting point is 00:41:49 experiences I mean obviously there's a lot of chaos around us right now so there's a lot of things to draw from but something like going to Ghana all of my I've been making I've been making some music and so is is this uh show i've been doing called smoking at church this guy uh james earl and uh jamil bruner and it was my first time um being around a group of people in a while that i didn't know when i got invited to the studio it was five or six people this is pre my mushroom uh rooftop party freak out. But I get to the studio. It was real nerve wracking.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Like, man, it's five people in here. Oh, am I gone? Huh? And it was like re-socializing again. I was like, hey, how y'all doing? And hello.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And eventually calmed down. I actually took a shot for the first time and hadn't drank since beginning of 2018. But I took a shot for the first time. I hadn't drank since beginning of 2018, but I took a shot just to commemorate being around a group of people again. I hadn't drank since then. I started making music with them.
Starting point is 00:42:59 That's been my one place I've been going to besides working at my spot. I've been hanging out and then just going there. I had three total places that I've been going to besides working at my spot. I've been, you know, hanging out and then just going there. I had three total places that I've been. Is anybody getting tested? No. I think we're just going on the you don't seem like you're dying act. It's not real. It's been, you know, I think mostly we keep it in.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Do you want to get tested? Yeah. You want to get tested today? I can get you tested. Sure. All right. I'm going to make a test right now. I'm going to make, while we're sitting here. You want to get tested? Yeah. Do you want to get tested today? I can get you tested. Sure. All right. I'm going to make a test right now. I'm going to make, while we're sitting here.
Starting point is 00:43:28 You want to make, okay. I'm going to schedule it right now. So my songs that I started coming up with, they were only about vapes because that's what was happening in the studio. I would bring a vape, somebody stole a vape from the studio or I was smoking on nicotine vape and then it was a bad vape so it gave me the itches. And so I got about four or five songs that are just about vaping because my experiences have been really limited right now
Starting point is 00:44:02 and I haven't been digging in the past. Maybe I need to do songs about Muay Thai yeah Muay Thai tracks why not yeah yeah Muay Thai I'm out here they call me elbow you know I'm getting it you think you gonna beat me hell no my roundhouse is whack but I'm about to kick you back yeah I'm lighting up the pads catch me up in chiang mai i can't kick my leg high but the elbow hits you right in your temple and then you won't be nimble you'll be all limping it requires a little work but there's something there yeah it's just you got to get it out and then you rewrite it now when you go to ghana do you have like a plan of what you're planning on doing? Or like, do you want to just go there and write?
Starting point is 00:44:49 Do you want to go there and just experience life? I think I would want to go there and, yeah, work, produce, maybe even start directing out there. Are there regular flights there? Because a lot of places are quarantined. I know some people that try to go to Italy, and they found out even though they're letting people back in Italy, they won't let Americans. I think by September, I feel like, but who knows?
Starting point is 00:45:19 This world is crazy. But there's been initiatives in Ghana that they're trying to get black Americans to come live there. So I think they would, the Ghanaian government would smooth out the trip. But, I mean, would it be hard to catch a flight? Like how many flights are going to Ghana right now? Out of New York, I mean, I'm hoping that things change in September. I was looking at a site because
Starting point is 00:45:45 there's now this site's like what's going where can you go right so I was just looking cabin fever web searching where can I where can I go and so it has each country like this world of nomad or something like that we're like this is what's going on you can't go there they only accept in private flights certain countries that you can fly private there this place you get there quarantine for 14 days so so it's such a such a weird zone i thought about going to newfoundland before the the u.s and uh canada border was closed because i started getting panicky and I was looking at places that had low amounts of cases and I saw Newfoundland you know what maybe I go to Newfoundland and then Trudeau and and Trump they started talking about closing the border the Canadian u.s. where not says shit do I I got it it's
Starting point is 00:46:38 now or never am I gonna really go to Newfoundland of course I didn't go but it was Newfoundland is interesting they're really into curling up there i did a show up there and i made fun of curling and people started going hey they were mad hey they were mad you know i think of newfoundland i think of pull up this photo of johnny cash moose hunting in newfoundland here's another photo that we need to get turned into one of the big metal prints this is a johnny cash wearing like regular clothes. Like an old school rifle. Like 1965 or some shit like that. Moose hunting.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And there he is. Johnny Cash. In Newfoundland. There he is. Look at that. That's the photo. That's the one. That's the one we need. That's the walkie talkie. He called. Hey I see a. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Look at the antenna on that fucking thing. I see a moose on the horizon. I see the moose. I'm going to shoot it in its eyes. Johnny motherfucking Cash. Don't try it. I'm in Newfoundland. Shout out to.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Man, I would have loved to meet that guy. Is that a guitar gun? No. That's just a gun gun. That's a moose head right there, son. A lot of moose in Newfoundland. Look at that walkie-talkie thing. He was a baller with that thing back then. Is...
Starting point is 00:47:56 That's like a refrigerator with an antenna. And said a walkie. It's Johnny. Look at him holding on to it. That's crazy. They probably used them to locate game. Call them in. Call them in.
Starting point is 00:48:13 You got to pretend that you're a female moose that wants some dick. That's how you call them in. You got to go. That's the moose call? Yeah, that's what it sounds like. And they start. Do they slow walk or do they run up? They slow walk.
Starting point is 00:48:28 They don't trust you. Yeah. They come slowly and they make their way around. Usually they circle. You could call a moose in and it could take hours before it comes to you. Like you could call a moose in and then it gets dark and you're in your tent and you hear something stomping around the tent. It's a moose looking for pussy.
Starting point is 00:48:48 And then you got to kill it. Well, well you really can't you can't see it no in the dark in the woods it's fucking dark like you can't really take an ethical shot unless the moon's out and most places have laws against that okay you know I'll just shoot at night hands up hands up fair they sound like that's how bad they want dick what's the ethical shot versus a unethical shot you want to have a shot that you know for certain you're going to hit the animal in the vitals and it's going to die if you just take a shot at an animal that's really far away you can barely see it that's an unethical shot okay you might hit it but you might not what you really want is an animal that's like standing still broadside so you want it standing because if it's the animal standing straight at you you have to hit it right
Starting point is 00:49:36 here you have a very small like maybe a softball size or no like a cantaloupe like a cantaloupe size area that you can hit where the heart is. But if, unless you have a rifle. If you have a rifle, it opens up a realm of possibilities. I'll take a frontal shot with a rifle. But if an animal's standing broadside, then you have a very large area that you can hit.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I thought an ethical shot is when the animal makes eye contact and say, do it. Please. I fucking contact and say, do it. Please. I fucking hate this life. Do it. These bitches are moaning by the time I get there.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Another moose is always there. I'm depressed. I hate my job. And when they walk in, they make noises like. That's what the moose does. male moose the bull you gotta make a moose sounds mixtape soundboard it's one of the few animals that like anybody can make the noise like you can't make an elk noise elk noises are hard really yeah yeah yeah when you is it i'm good at noise like specific noises i can sometimes sometimes i i'll get them have you ever heard i know michael winslow but every now and then there's a noise and
Starting point is 00:50:52 i i got it he's the only guy that's made a career out of noises like if you say like a noise guy like michael winslow as comedians he's the known noise guy pablo a little bit okay a little bit yeah but either way he's not doing an elk sound you ever heard an elk scream? no pull up a video of an elk scream it sounds like some Lord of the Rings shit it doesn't even sound like a real animal when you hear them in real life
Starting point is 00:51:18 it like gives you goosebumps it's like holy fuck like if you didn't know what was making this sound you would think there were demons in the woods. Okay. Have you heard them scream like this? When they scream, it's the bulls. They're screaming to let the cows know what's up and to let the other bulls know to step the fuck back. So I'll back off of the mic for my...
Starting point is 00:51:50 Okay. Nope. It's a tough one. Yeah, you ain't gonna do that one. You need a tube. You need like a Phelps alcohol. Yeah, Phelps. That's a hand sanitizer. Drink a hand sanitizer?
Starting point is 00:52:06 You'll get drunk drunk you'll be like kitty dukakis you don't want that shit this video says they're actually making two sounds at once which is already hard enough for us to do
Starting point is 00:52:13 but it's a whistle with a roar oh okay oh good luck and then the females have a different sound
Starting point is 00:52:21 they're like meow meow like a like come come get some pussy bark meow And then the females have a different sound. They're like... They have like a... Like, come get some pussy. I can't do the noise of the female either. Female's like a mew.
Starting point is 00:52:34 It's like a... It's a weird sort of noise. Point is, they make crazy noises. I don't even know how the fuck we got on with this. Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash hunting Newfoundland. Newfoundland. That's right.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Johnny Cash, Moose, the noises, soundboard, and then you said making the app. You said you're going to get the app going with the Joe Rogan Moose soundboard, and you're going to get it. Apps are expensive. I don't think there's a lot of value in a soundboard And you're gonna get it Apps are expensive I don't think there's a lot of value In a soundboard With animal noises Sometimes you just gotta do it for the love of the game
Starting point is 00:53:12 It ain't about It ain't about turning a profit every time You take some L's for fun I wish it was easier to make an app I've looked into having apps made It's fucking complicated You ever made an app? to make an app. I've looked into having apps made. It's fucking complicated. You ever made an app? Or had an app made?
Starting point is 00:53:29 No, I haven't. I haven't had one made. It's complicated. Yeah, you gotta, I mean, I guess you gotta get some people. I'm thinking about having a game made. Really? Yeah. What kind?
Starting point is 00:53:43 Just on Roblox. Ohx oh no my kids are addicted to that fucking game just a game made based on the comedy special loosely oh like all the subjects that you talk about in the comedy special i'm not sure about all but maybe finding one angle of it and then stretching that out like the arrest story the arrest story maybe yeah something like that uh and then having it be in a game that could work uh jamie told me that uh it was grand theft auto they have like places you can go like you watch a comedy show right wasn't that yeah for sure yeah uh i don't i haven't played it since they've expanded it in the last like two years that game came like 10 years ago now yeah pretty crazy no the one in New York they had the that laugh factory that was in Times
Starting point is 00:54:29 Square was on the game and Cat Williams was on there and I think Patrice and you could just go in the comedy stand-up or Patrice was on the radio but Patrice was definitely on there yeah you just go go in there and watch them perform. I think J.B. Smoove was on the radio, too. Grand Theft Auto. Yeah, that's him. Look at this. Yeah, it's Cat.
Starting point is 00:54:55 That is crazy. That is crazy. Look at this. That's him. That's his real intro. Wow. Well, and that's 10-year-old graphics, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Like, if they did this today. That's hilarious. Like, they even mimic the way he walks. He probably did mocha. Yeah, they probably just captured him. But look, it's a socially distanced crowd. They didn't, you know, it's probably complicated in terms of animation to fill the crowd up. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Yeah, this is a shitty animation, though. Yeah, I think they had a TV or something you could just sit and let go. And this might have been like a show on it or something like that. How strange. Split Sides Comedy Club. Yeah, but the animation they have now, there's a new video that's out now that's got the new Unreal Engine,
Starting point is 00:55:51 and we played it on here. It doesn't even look like a video game. When people walk, little specks of dust kick up from their feet, touching the dirt. What game? It's a... It was basically like a... It was just a concept, but they kind of showed like a Tomb Raider-ish type...
Starting point is 00:56:07 Watch this. Look at this. You can look at this screen, too, if you want to face forward. Look at it right here. Look at this. This shows you what all the pixels are, but this is what it looks like. I mean, what the fuck, man? Oh, and the five...
Starting point is 00:56:17 Yeah. How crazy is that? How crazy is that? That looks so amazing. Unreal Engine 3, is that what it is, Jamie? Five. Five now now look at that yeah this is fucking crazy so if they did that and did like you doing stand-up they could literally get it to the point where it looks like you doing stand-up now like look like her movement's a little
Starting point is 00:56:40 odd right it's good they call that the uncanny valley the difference between reality and like obvious bullshit it's like it gets real close to reality to it makes you feel weird watching it because your brain is going am i watching bullshit or is this a real person god damn that's amazing like look at the graphics it's insane hey i dove heavy into the gaming when quarantine started. Did you? It was. I played a lot of NBA 2K. And I played more than I've played in a long time because it was just,
Starting point is 00:57:15 now I had no sleep schedule. I was playing for 12 hours straight sometimes and just locked in like a crazy person because it was escapism. I have a real problem with video games. We have a whole video game room back there, like a land room. I don't even go in there anymore. I just stay away from it
Starting point is 00:57:37 like I'm an alcoholic and it's a bar. I can't go in there. Tell him, Jamie. We were playing hours every day to the point Jamie was telling me I had a problem. He would leave. He'd be like, I'm not playing anymore. I'm like, where are you going?
Starting point is 00:57:49 Get back here, bitch. He would take off. Go forever. It was bad, right? It was bad. Like hours and hours every day. We would get done with the podcast. I couldn't wait to go play.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I'd be like, good night, everybody. Run right over there. Boot it up. Get online. Start talking shit. We were talking crazy shit to each other come on bitch and just like killing each other like hours and hours and hours but when I would leave we'd play
Starting point is 00:58:13 Quake Champions my hands would be sweaty I would feel like like I'm nervous I'd leave I'd be driving home and like I don't feel good I feel bad like I physically was feeling bad and then I started like sleeping bad and like, I don't feel good. I feel bad. Like I physically was feeling bad. And then I started like sleeping bad. I was thinking I'm putting my body through all this crazy stress.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Like when you're playing and you're locked onto that screen and it's like this heavy, intense combat and your hands are sweating. And like you're so adrenaline jacked that when you get out of there, it's almost like you're drunk or you just got off a drug or you drug or you drank too much coffee or something you feel terrible yeah the shooters can put you in a i don't play call of duty or anything i play a little gta but that's a different energy 2k was just really i was locked in and i was doing a lot of research i started researching how to you know upgrade your character there's the badge system where you know if you're a point guard you get certain badges like oh you know the dimer and that makes you able to pass better and so all these other specific attributes you can you can upgrade how do you upgrade do you have to pay you can you can pay you can or you can play and get
Starting point is 00:59:24 the experience and then you as you keep on getting points you get better you can or you could play and get the experience and then you keep on getting points You get better you actually get better, but then it takes a while if you're not great at the game so I found out that there is a service where people just will play the game and and You can they'll just upgrade your character. I've heard about that for those role-playing games, those gigantic multiplayer games where you'll hire people, and they have, like, sweatshops where people just play your game constantly and just upgrade your character. Yeah, because I was trying to upgrade the character,
Starting point is 00:59:58 and it was taking too long, and I just knew there was a better way. And then somebody told me, you know, you don't have to do that. You can just pay somebody 80 bucks and they'll do it over a week and I paid somebody and I'm like oh yeah this is much better
Starting point is 01:00:10 and so you pay this guy and then you came back with refreshed skills character was on point yeah character was on point because the thing is there's the park
Starting point is 01:00:19 on NBA 2K and so that's kind of open world other people have their characters and so so the park is like you're playing against other folks you're playing against other folks they got their own outfits and so you can see what everybody's rated it's real you know it's a real social thing going
Starting point is 01:00:37 on with it okay everybody's here at 95 97 you can't can you hear them talk i don't want to hear anybody i could but i don't really like talking to folks like that because it's too direct. What is this guy doing here, Jamie? I wasn't trying to show you the guy talking. I was trying to show the video of the park so you could just see the visuals of it. But it's in the middle of this guy's video. Oh, wow. So, yeah, that's the park.
Starting point is 01:01:02 There's different three-on-three games, two-on-two. Do you have to wait in line and then you get into a game? Yeah, so those little circles are the waiting spots. So you can either play randomly or you could come through. I meet up. That's why I meet up with people during quarantine, me and my cousin. Hey, you going to the park? Yeah, let's go to the park at 7.
Starting point is 01:01:22 And we team up and then we play against people. Graphics are amazing. I think amazing i think this is actually live someone playing so they have a 2k league oh yeah now like all most of the real teams have their own team like this so they have standings and whatnot for a real and this is what they're showing on espn now wow there's no real sports but this is close Yeah, sometimes you'll end up playing against one of those people in a random game. You're like, oh, they're processing this way differently than I am. Do I even have the same system as them? Because how are they doing it? No, it's all consoles, right?
Starting point is 01:01:59 It's not on the computer there is uh the most most players on ps4 and uh xbox but there is on pc and pc is where there's hackers i don't play on pc but i watch videos of some pc youtubers and so sometimes they'll just have a a player that is 40 feet tall and you'll see it's this one guy Trey I think his name and it's just his videos is him watching
Starting point is 01:02:31 hacker videos and it'll be somebody that's their arms are going across the whole park a hacker can just kind of change the dynamic
Starting point is 01:02:39 of the entire park because I guess yeah you know it's not as secure as the Xbox server yeah I guess, yeah, you know, it's not as secure as the Xbox server. Yeah. That was it.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hilarious. He's like a spider. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's so funny. That is so funny. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Of course PC people do that. Of course. That's the same with Quake. That was always a problem. Guys would have aiming bots, and they could just shoot you. Every time you showed up anywhere, you would get hit. Like, they never missed. So you just couldn't beat them.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Yeah, it's a different... It's fucking kids. You know what game? You hear it, Overcooked? No. Overcooked is a co-op game Where it's You work in a kitchen And it's just you putting together
Starting point is 01:03:28 Different meals You and the person are going against two people And you all have to put together The most burgers and serve them This is it right here Oh I do know this game My fucking wife and my kids play this stupid game They make pizza
Starting point is 01:03:44 They get real hyped up doing it? They get real hyped up. I'm like, what are you doing? It's stressful. You're playing pizza making. It's so stupid. It's something about it that it hits a different part of the brain where you get hyped and it really shows who people are under pressure. And it's intense.
Starting point is 01:04:02 They start yelling at each other, get the tomatoes! I was talking to my cousin, I was talking to my cousin Percy, I was like, why does this game get me more hype than being in a war game and shooting people and getting shot at because violence has kind of been, you know, we desensitize to it,
Starting point is 01:04:20 video game violence at least. But, you know, being in a kitchen is kind of almost close to real life. And so messing up in the kitchen, it does something to you. I don't know. I played it once. I was like, this is stupid as fuck.
Starting point is 01:04:33 I don't care what happens with this pizza. Was your team, who was on your team? I don't remember. One of my daughters. See, see, so leadership is important in this game. I got you a COVID test today at six. Oh, thanks, man. So we're good to go.
Starting point is 01:04:44 All right. We'll find out what's up. And also, I got you a COVID test today. It's six. Oh, thanks, man. So we're good to go. All right. We'll find out what's up. Also, I've got two tests for you. The current test to find out if it's in your system and also an antibody test. Okay. To see if it used to be. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:55 You might have kicked it. A lot of people kicked it and they didn't even know. It's really weird. We'll see. We'll see. What direction will my day take? Do you take vitamins? Sometimes, yeah. we'll see what direction will my day take sometimes I started taking a good amount of
Starting point is 01:05:08 I take vitamin I take some zinc that's good some vitamin B B's good and Adderall that's a vitamin right no I don't think so
Starting point is 01:05:22 it feels like maybe the best vitamin no Adderall. That's a vitamin, right? No, I don't think so. It feels like maybe the best vitamin. No, D is very important. D is real important. Yeah. Especially. Whoa. Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Sneaky. Hey, dog. You look like a magician. You got jackets, cat. I had no idea. I'd just be in my house with stuff i'm like you know i gotta bring some of this stuff how are you feeling without doing stand-up is it weirding you out um no i you know dropping a special made it kind of weird just because there's a lot of movement that's usually associated with a release you know going to do tv usually you in new york and l.a you probably pop up at the comedy club a couple
Starting point is 01:06:14 times that week and so that was that was kind of a very weird foreign feeling to have a big drop um and then and then that happened and i think that's what kind of led to me throwing a little jam on my roof was like i need it i was like it's feel too weird i gotta have some type of little gathering you know what i mean um but yeah i've been i've been getting my outlet has been music as far as just being able to hang out and you know crack jokes and be creative and I've been seeing it
Starting point is 01:06:50 there's drive-thru shows happening I'm thinking about doing some drive-thru some drive-in screenings Bert Kreischer's been doing a lot of that yeah
Starting point is 01:06:57 yeah he did one with Miss Pat and Jesus Trejo it looked like fun man they're on stage and they had 700 cars that's how they put it instead. They're on stage, and they had 700 cars. That's how they put it. Instead of 700 people in the audience, they had 700 cars.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Bert's got a video of it. It's pretty badass. When the people are applauding at the end, they're honking their horn and flashing their lights. He said it was like UFOs landing. It's wild. It's all these headlights, 700 cars. Are they all on stage at once no
Starting point is 01:07:26 no I mean they did sets I mean they did it like a comedy show okay yeah cause that's the thing that I wonder about
Starting point is 01:07:33 as a performer look at the grilling and trying to ride the wave you know what I mean right but look at that Miss Pat
Starting point is 01:07:41 oh so people outside the car is kicking it look man this is wild that looks like a lot of fun he said it was great he loved it he said the fans were going nuts But look at that, Ms. Pat. Oh, so people outside, the car is kicking it. Look, man, this is wild. That looks like a lot of fun. He said it was great. He loved it. And he said the fans were going nuts.
Starting point is 01:07:51 But he did some shows. He did one show in Oklahoma. And it was supposed to socially distant. It was supposed to be 120 people in the audience. There was 347 people. They stuffed him into the place. And he was like, I don't feel safe in here. Like, what the fuck are they doing? Like, what did they do? No one had masks on. Like, 10 people had masks on. And this is them into the place. And he was like, I don't feel safe in here. Like, what the fuck are they doing? Like, what did they do?
Starting point is 01:08:05 No one had masks on. Like, 10 people had masks on. And this is them at the end. See, this is like real social distancing, right? Now, as long as they're all tested. And look at that. Look at all the crowds. Like, all the cars.
Starting point is 01:08:17 They had fireworks. And this was Bert's idea. All his idea. Drive-in movie theaters are making a comeback now there's a movie that's out now this is a fucking horror movie that's supposed to be real good it's like a one word name
Starting point is 01:08:33 about a haunted house or some shit it looks fun but they're releasing it July 3rd in drive-in movie theaters and then July 10th on demand so they're doing everything now like basically movies have to come out on your apple tv or amazon or whatever which i love i don't want to go to the movies but i want the movies to stay open yeah i want to yeah maybe
Starting point is 01:08:58 i'll do yeah just yeah putting a special out and and it's kind of reignited. I want to get in front of a crowd again and just talk some shit, man. You think you're going to do stand-up in Ghana? Yeah. They speak a lot of English there? Yeah, they speak a lot of English. Wow. It's going to be a great trip.
Starting point is 01:09:23 It's going to be a great trip. It was, you know, my first traveling, I went to—the whole situation kind of had me feeling stuck, even though I could have been making moves or doing, you know, in March and April, where I could have been doing stuff, but I kind of, because of media and just everything, I just kind of felt trapped in the crib, even though there was still options. And so towards the end of May, my sister lives in Phoenix. I'm going to go visit them and stay in Phoenix. And just getting prepped for the trip was so, because I hadn't used my book bag in months,
Starting point is 01:10:03 and just all the little stuff that came with traveling. When I found my book bag, it felt like, you know, a warrior picking up his sword. It was like, oh! I genuinely, I teared up, like, getting my bag again because I hadn't, it was like, oh, yeah, I used to go to shit and do shit, and picking my bag up made me emotional.
Starting point is 01:10:25 And then being there at their place, you know, I live alone. So it's a family of four, two teenagers. So it was nice to be in a house with structure. You know, they work from home now, but, you know, the kids got school. So it was nice cuz I would go to bed sometimes at 8 in the morning just because I had nothing I was just you know going to bed at 8 waking up at weird to waking up at midnight sometimes hey it was a life of a comedian I had a crazy schedule man so it was just nice
Starting point is 01:11:00 to be in a sense like oh whoa this whoa, this is a functioning. Oh, this is what, you know, structured normalcy is. And it was really helpful for me. I needed it then, just being around him after that time and hanging with my nephew and niece. And it was really necessary. It makes you appreciate, like, one of the things about the lockdown, it makes me appreciate, like, meals, meals like sitting down having meals with my family like we didn't we didn't go to any restaurants at all for like three months and then you know it makes you appreciate like
Starting point is 01:11:33 like it made me appreciate having food because in the beginning i was thinking like what if we run out of food like what do we do like i have a gun and i have bullets and i know how to hunt and i i know where some deer are in my neighborhood i've been keeping an eye on them like no bullshit just in case just in case shit gets weird just you ain't you ain't got no vegetables in the garden you straight to the deer well if i it's between vegetables and deer you can't live that long on a small garden yeah you can live for months on a deer. I can shoot one deer and I'll eat that fucker for three or four months. Wow.
Starting point is 01:12:10 But if you have like four tomato plants and like some kale, you got some celery, good luck. You got like three salads out of that shit. I know a few people that bought guns when shit was first starting to go down, they just— A lot of people bought guns. Yeah. A lot of people came to me and asked, like, how do you get one? Like, what do I have to do? Like, they were asking.
Starting point is 01:12:33 People that, like, were negative about guns before. Like, I have a buddy of mine. His wife is like, you're never getting a gun. We're never having a gun in this house. He's like, okay, fine. The lockdown happened. She goes, you got to get a gun immediately, right away. And he called me up laughing. He's like, she told me I have to get a gun. He's like, okay, fine. The lockdown happened. She goes, you got to get a gun immediately, right away. And he called me up laughing.
Starting point is 01:12:46 He's like, she told me I have to get a gun. I'm like, ah. Hey, people change their minds. They change their minds in front of real danger. It's real danger, you know, when shit was getting real weird. And this was before the riots and looting. This was just during the lockdown. People started getting nervous about food.
Starting point is 01:13:05 They started seeing people have fistfights over toilet paper like whoa people are losing their shit the toilet paper situation was really uh shocking to see because i just had i had lots of wipes anyways just in general i just had lots of wipes on deck yeah and you're gonna be okay if you have a washcloth and some water. You can wipe your ass. It's not that big a deal. You need food. That's what you need.
Starting point is 01:13:31 I mean, you could clean a washcloth. As long as you have water. Do you have water and soap? Well, you're good. You don't really need toilet paper. You're going to be okay. You need food. Yeah, you don't want to put that shit on the washcloths, really though unless it gets dicey you do what you gotta do you do what you gotta do
Starting point is 01:13:49 when it's time to go number two and the apocalypse come for you 2020 2020 without a doubt the the weirdest year ever, right? In my adulthood, yeah. My whole life. There's no time ever weirder. Yeah, the global pandemic. You know, I was a—my girlfriend lives in Hong Kong, and we met out there over the holiday. And so she was over here. Hong Kong is going through some shit right now.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Hong Kong is going through some shit. But she had the early window on COVID. So she was heading back there at the beginning of February. And she was looking for masks while we were in New York. And shit. And it was February 2nd, 3rd. She was looking
Starting point is 01:14:57 for masks. And I'm like, y'all need some masks to go back. I was like, why you gonna go back there? It's fucking crazy. And so I remember, you know, I FaceTimed her. She'd be at work with a mask on, just like, you know, February 15th, 16th, that zone. And I would look at her like, that's crazy. Look at.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Look at y'all. Nobody's at work.'s insane what you just you just sitting there with a mask on all the time wow what is that like little did i know i would find out little did you know that's normal life now i was really oblivious thinking oh that's gonna that's over there i got an early look at the shit it was just like oh damn that sucks you should i was really telling her like you should escape there and come here and hong kong's safer now you should wait it out over here it's so bonkers to look back at i was no come to america we don't get that shit over like it's in hong kong man it's insane now i done thrown crazy covid jam session who knows and then being worried about it being where and ending had a full-on meltdown really mmm walked up to the just try to house party but I shut down a jam session is like welcome
Starting point is 01:16:36 to the keyboard it's like yeah looking at the drummer like keep everybody alive what we need is a test that you can just like a real quick saliva test census style yeah but just everybody walks in lick that thing okay you're good okay you're good okay you're good oh you're not good like know who's clean let everybody in yeah i mean if we did that, it would change everything. If they had some sort of a test, like a real easy saliva test, just lick it and you know. We could wipe this shit out in a week. The test now is all, right? What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:17:17 Oh, no, it's easy now. Yeah. Yeah. It used to be like that. They used to go deep in your nostrils, like way up into your sinus cavity. But now it's just the inside of your nose. It's nothing. No discomfort at all. It's like a little Q-tip. It just goes inside the nose. They swab it around a little bit for like 10 seconds. They dip it into some
Starting point is 01:17:33 sort of a solution. They send it off and you'll know tomorrow. And then the antibody test that you'll do, this is the FDA approved antibody test. You just squeeze your finger like that. They put a little prick on the tip of your finger a little blood comes out they put it in a thing and you know in ten minutes okay it's easy I'm sure you're fine I'm looking at you right now I'm good at this trust me let me see you're good I think you're good if you've been right do you write right do I'm good. Have you been writing? Do you write, do you like sit down and write your stand-up,
Starting point is 01:18:12 or do you just like have ideas and work them out on stage? A little bit of both. Yeah, I'll write some and then just have some ideas. Here's my COVID game show idea. You get four people, line them up, put masks on them, and it's a game show called Who Said That?
Starting point is 01:18:35 Everybody got a mask on. Who said that? And then my other one is a bad joke. You got to get these out your system before you hit it. Now, you know, everybody's wearing masks. The bank robber's got to write robber on his mask. You've been spending a lot of time alone.
Starting point is 01:19:00 This is strange. You know, folks, COVID is crazy. What is this obsession with becoming a game show host that you have in your special? It's not an obsession. Trust me. I've done it. Don't do it. It's not an obsession.
Starting point is 01:19:18 It's just kind of, you know, that's the career path that happens. And I have been offered a lot of game shows. And I say not yet. They come with a large cheddar. Yeah. They haven't made it undeniable for me on the game show side yet. If I was in the same position I was when I took Fear Factor, I'd take it again. Because it changed my life.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Changed my life. Gave me freedom. Like real freedom. But it's a job. There's a big difference between doing that and doing stand-up when you do stand-up you're having fun when you're doing fear factor sometimes you're having fun but it's a job you're working it was a great job don't get me wrong yeah that's why i think on the game show side i really just gotta put my energy into who said that? The COVID game show. What if Steve Harvey retires from Family Feud?
Starting point is 01:20:09 That's an easy one. I would do Family Feud. I wouldn't do Family Feud. It's an easy one. No. It's an easy one. Survey says! I remember back when Richard Dawkins hosted it. Then you in the airport and just people asking you random shit. Good point.
Starting point is 01:20:25 And then they just, you know. What about Drew Carey's got prices right? You in the airport and just people asking you random shit. Good point. Ding. Good point. And then they just, you know. What about Drew Carey's got prices right? That's an easy one. It looks easy. I don't think it's just, I don't think it's for me. I enjoy some of them, but just me and what I think as a regular gig, I got to be the one creating it. The thing about the Drew Carey thing though.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Who said that? Drew Carey thing though, Drew Carey seems like he's just stacking money. He's stacking money like no one even knows about it. Well, Pat Sajak. Wheel of Fortune's been on for my entire life. Right, but Pat Sajak's not a comic. What did he do before Wheel of Fortune? He didn't do anything.
Starting point is 01:21:02 He was born on the set. He grew up there. He's been doing that forever he's not comic though maybe maybe he was at one point in time maybe I don't think so though he's not a comic I've you ever heard of Pat Sajak is a former weatherman and talk show host yeah that makes sense yeah so he hit the jackpot but who else what are the comics have done game shows Howie Mandel Howie he's done a gang of them right he had that one deal or no deal hit more than one right and he did uh I was dealing oh that was dealing oh they I was thinking
Starting point is 01:21:36 of something else deal or no deal was a winner like why did they ever stop that show I think they might well not live now, but I think they were touring it, I think. It moved to CNBC instead of primetime TV. It's still being produced all the time. Who wants to be a millionaire still on TV? See, I don't think I've quite
Starting point is 01:21:58 sold you on who said that. So let's really dive into the concept. Four people wearing masks. Four people wearing masks. Yeah. Somebody says something. I would like it if one of them was COVID positive. One of them COVID positive.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Yeah. Why? Just for the fuck of it. Just for the fuck of it. That's a mistake. That's season three. When people get bored. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Season three. Season three aren't COVID. But, and then once somebody says something, but it's not much movement. Right. You got to guess. You got to just guess. Yeah, you got to guess. Who said that?
Starting point is 01:22:30 30 second episodes. You shoot 500 of them in a day. It's on YouTube. It's not a bad idea. Who said that? Was it him? Who said that? Was it him? Who said that? Was it Tim?
Starting point is 01:22:51 Was it Jim? Jesus Christ. How high did you get before you came here? No, this is me, man. CBD. It's the Kill Cliff CBD. These are good, right? Very addictive.
Starting point is 01:23:01 These are smooth. Good for you. Yeah. I'm addicted to these. That actually is not a bad idea for a show. As long as they didn't, like you could guess. And especially if it's like they said things that were like closely related to what they did. Like maybe you can ask them what they did.
Starting point is 01:23:21 And then figure out who would say what. ask them what they did, and then figure out who would say what. I think keeping it simple and quick for these short attention spans. And then maybe that's somebody that becomes a legend on the show. And they just kind of, it's somebody, and maybe it's scripted, maybe it's real, but it's somebody saying, who said that? Boom. And they say, whoa, that was fast. They just know. This episode's over.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Intro's longer than the episode. Intro's 15 seconds. Episode, four seconds. Now, you move on. Let me know how this sells. I'm going to, yeah. Take it out. I'm going to take it out onto the video conferencing circuit.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Just different. Do some meetings. I think they're filming things now because Felipe had a thing on his Instagram where he said he's on a new show. Or it might be a movie. And they're going to the set on Monday. And he's all excited. He was talking about the protocols and all the different shit they have to do for COVID. But they're fucking filming.
Starting point is 01:24:25 But what I was saying is, like, if you're filming, you have to go home at the end of the day. What if you go home and you go out and you catch it and then you come back to the set? Like, how often are they testing you? I don't know. And if someone gets it, like if you're the star and you get it, what do they do? They lock the show down for two weeks and then come back? If the star gets it, I think it's over. I heard they say it goes by number on the call sheet.
Starting point is 01:24:53 So if the star gets it, then they cough in everybody else's mouth and then herd immunity, and then the show goes on because, you know. What did you say? I think when this was happening or starting, Tyler Perry's production team was saying that they were going to lock the whole team down in quarantine together in one hotel, and then they all go to the set. So nobody leaves.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Right, yeah. Everybody gets tested. Tyler Perry can do that, though, because he's got his own studio. He's his own boss. He's got it locked up. He doesn't have to deal with any bullshit. He's all his own studio. He's his own boss. He's got it locked up. He doesn't have to deal with any bullshit. He's all non-union. He's got a complete system.
Starting point is 01:25:32 I think I heard they do it quicker than normal, too. They do it in a couple weeks as opposed to a month or two. He's got an island. Tyler Perry's got a fucking island. That's next level. You going to get an island? No. No? No. I'm not interested in an island. Tyler Perry's got a fucking island. Yeah. That's next level. You going to get an island? No. No?
Starting point is 01:25:47 No. I'm not interested in an island. Really? No. You sure, though? Because you... I want a ranch. I don't want an island.
Starting point is 01:25:55 You might want to... Because remember, I think last time I was on here, or the time before that, I was talking about getting a Tesla, and you said, don't get a Tesla. Now you got a Tesla. Yeah, but that was That's true. But I got that because Elon talked me into it. He was willing to do my show. I said, alright man, I'll
Starting point is 01:26:13 buy a Tesla because he did my show. But then once I got it, I was like, he's right. It's dope. You have one? Dude. They're the craziest cars out. Every other car seems dumb. It's so fast. It's so fast, it doesn't even make sense.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Like, it defies physics. It just goes. It takes off. And then you've got this giant screen for the navigation, and then it drives itself. The driving itself part. It's amazing. Everything's amazing about it. You can play video games on it.
Starting point is 01:26:46 It got that fart thing too. It's got the fart thing. If you hit the blinkers, if you like to do that. The fart. It's a solid car. What kind of car you drive? I got an Infiniti. It's not mine.
Starting point is 01:26:58 I started renting. I was renting from this guy and I was starting to shop for a car. And then the pandemic happened. So then I just held on to the Renault because I didn't know if I was just gonna have to escape I probably drove it once or twice the entire month of April but you have a lot of money like why wouldn't you just get a car I was shopping for cars but then pandemic okay yeah I started I was like shopping in so you're renting early March to see if you like it no I was shopping in early March. So you were renting this to see if you like it? No, I was just renting it because I would rent through this app, Turo. It's like Airbnb for cars.
Starting point is 01:27:29 And then I started just renting directly from this guy because less fees for him. You know what I mean? And we just texted and he'd bring a car. It was smooth. And I was starting to look for a car because it wasn't making sense to keep renting from him. And then, you know, COVID. And COVID, I was shopping for a car because it wasn't making sense to keep renting from him and then you know kovit and kovit i was chopping for a car and then the virus came and said stop the only thing i saw the carvana you saw carvana commercials they put on who what's carvana carvan is like we'll bring the car to you
Starting point is 01:27:59 and then we'll socially they deliver socially distanced car delivery. But they're breathing in the car. How are they doing that? Buy a car and I don't know. They're driving. So they have to touch it. Maybe they wear a hazmat suit. I don't know how they do it. There it is.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Oh, they drop it off on the back of a truck. Yeah. Oh. Carvana. I should have. Wow. They have 11,850 vehicles and they just drop it off on a flatbed and they don't even touch it. The new way to buy a car.
Starting point is 01:28:32 Wow. Have it or pick it up at a vending machine. You seem like a dude who would like a fun car. You need something fun in your life. Dodge Dart. Dodge Dart on 22s. They're still doing that in Miami. I was in Miami, and they had these, like a Caprice Classic on giant.
Starting point is 01:28:57 I saw a BMW 7 Series on these giant fucking wheels. They look like they're 27-inch wheels. It's like a wagon. Like you're driving around in a old covered wagon my yeah you gotta have solid parking skills for that or you're gonna scuff the rims on it too you gotta be parking good you gotta be careful with your my parallel parking game is i've just given up and gone around the block again sometimes on certain situations where I thought about just going to some type of school, just a specialized, just a parallel parking intensive course. Get a car that does it for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Like a Lexus. There's a certain Lexus, the sedan, that you just press a button and it'll power all the park. I know that there's some that'll do it, but you want to be able to. Because it's not like I can't. It's sometimes, I nail it, and then other times it's just. Just practice. Think about when you first started doing stand-up. Probably weren't as good as you are now.
Starting point is 01:30:02 You got to practice. Yeah. Just go somewhere with those cars. Start parking. Just keep parking. Just park a lot. Balance. Just take a day.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Just take a day. Yeah, Saturday's park day. Parking. Parking all day with a full tank of gas. Boom. Try it on busy streets. That's the real thing is the pressure parking when the people behind you, they're giving you room, but then you got to kind of block out that noise yep yeah speaking of noise how have the fighters liked being in like in the situation now
Starting point is 01:30:34 i have some some love it some love it yeah i think some miss the crowd but some love it because it's first of all it's real quiet, no distractions. You don't have the energy of people screaming at you. You can just focus on the fight. And it's a lot like just being in a gym. Yeah. It's a lot like sparring. So you could look at it that way.
Starting point is 01:30:57 I like it as a commentator. I was just talking to Louis C.K. about this. I was like, I don't know if it's better. I kind of like it. just talking to Louie about, Louie CK about this. I was like, I don't know if it's better. Like, I kind of like it. I don't, I miss the crowd in some ways, but I kind of like no crowd.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Because you can focus? Yeah, it's, they're different. They're very, they're different things. Like, one of them is insane. Like,
Starting point is 01:31:21 if you go to a Conor McGregor fight, and it's in a packed T-Mobile arena and Sinead O'Connor's screaming singing and the fucking green mist is on the air and everything. It's wild. It's a spectacle but there's something about the Apex Center where it's just me and Daniel Cormier and John Anik and Fucking Bruce Buffer screaming to nobody. There's nobody in the arena. And then the fighters walk out. It's weird. And then when they're hitting each other, man, you hear fucking everything.
Starting point is 01:31:51 You hear every shot to the ribs. You hear breathing heavy. You hear wincing. You hear all that shit. You hear them talk shit to each other. It's very different. It's very different. It's very different. There's something stunning about someone getting really fucked up where there's no crowd noise.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Like Francis Ngannou, who's the scariest person on the planet Earth, he knocked out Jarsino Rosenstreich in like 20 seconds. And Rosenstreich is also a big scary dude. You know who Francis is? I know who Francis is. Fuck, he's terrifying. And all he has to do is connect on people, right? So he boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 01:32:31 And Rosenstreich is out cold and there's no sound. It's just him walking off. Rosenstreich's out cold and we're sitting there going, holy shit. This is wild. It's like there's no one there. There's no scream of the crowd. It's just the violence of it all the explosion is so stunning it's all it's stunning it's weird
Starting point is 01:32:52 i wonder what's if you're gonna take a l i wonder what is better for the psyche tonight it's probably to not have that cheer right it's just because then it's like a regular street fight. It is like sparring where you don't get to hear 20,000 people cheering your potential concussion. As long as you stay offline for a couple weeks. Yeah, you just get off Twitter. The fact that people go on people's social media that are fighters to taunt them after they lose a fight, are you going to go square up? You got knocked out. Yeah they lose a fight. Are you going to go square up? You got knocked out. Yeah, by a pro.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Why are you? It feels like a weird move to dig in. Oh, it's a bitch move. It's a bitch move for sure, but it's a real common bitch move. It's 100% guaranteed it's going to happen. If you get flatlined, someone's going to come along and go, and they're going to have that thing from Friday with Chris Tucker. You got knocked the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:33:48 They're going to have that. That's going to come up. Chris Tucker, Nice Cube. You're going to have people taunt you. Some guys are fine with it. Like Ben Askren, who got knocked out by Jorge Masvidal, fastest knockout in history. It was just a one-year anniversary of it a couple of days ago.
Starting point is 01:34:04 And he was like oh great like he was he was saying imagine your most embarrassing moment and they celebrate it with a one-year anniversary you know slow-mo yeah but that wasn't to it was a packed audience and everybody went wow and it lasted a long time the screams and the cheers and he was out for a long time too i don't know if that would be better if there was no one there it would be stunning if there was i think i like it better with no one there man i don't know i love both of them but i might like it a hair better with no crowd is it i wonder if it's too small of a sample size to decide, but have you seen any change in fighting styles at all? Or is it something different in the performance?
Starting point is 01:34:54 Nah, I don't think so. Maybe they've been a little wilder. But I just think it's also like fighters didn't get to fight for months. Right. So everybody was kind of chomping at the bit. And also there's a lot of eyes on them. So everybody realized that this is the only game in town. There's no other sport.
Starting point is 01:35:13 There's no other sports right now that are running except for the UFC. And the marble races. And the marble races. And the marble races. And the floor is lava. The floor is lava. Shout out floor is lava. Shout out to Rutledge Wood. And the Marble Races. And the Floor is Lava. Floor is Lava. Shout out Floor is Lava.
Starting point is 01:35:29 Shout out to Rutledge Wood. I don't know if any other sports are coming back anytime soon. Are they? NBA is soon. You know what I heard they're working on? They're working on a thing where there's going to be an app on your phone, and you'll be able to make noise, and that noise will be piped into the arena so like each individual person like you'll have a seat yeah and your seat will be making noise oh now how you feel about the moose soundboard i did
Starting point is 01:35:59 now you see it coming together now we have a launch pad for it perfect nba bubble season boom that is a profitable app i have to feel that people are going to organize shit where they're like chant and say things you know and have fun and like you know like people will there'll be things where people get together and try to figure out, like, maybe sing a song. Like, you have everybody together, all singing a song at the exact same time. Yeah. You can do, you know, we don't want the virus. We wish we could be there, but this is all right.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Better than nothing. Basketball's back. NBA playoff game. Imagine there's no heaven. Amazing. Never know. Well, listen, one of the things that's come out of this is like a lot of people have gotten real creative with shit you know they've found ways to make things interesting they found ways to have
Starting point is 01:37:11 fun they found ways to i like when people are confronted with real adversity and challenges because you get to see how the human imagination works see creativity yeah it just you know for me it helped me kind of i it helped me think about the other people in my life and who i work with and just how to highlight and produce for them better since i was able to sit oh i was thinking about my uncle kelvin he uh he used to deal at casinos in Chicago area from mid to late 90s, early to probably 10 years or so. And so, he's a character. And so, oh, we should do a—and I had a gambling problem for a little bit. Did you?
Starting point is 01:37:58 Yeah. What kind? Sports and casino. A lot of sports. When you say gambling problem, what made it a problem? What made it a problem is that it was really taking up a lot of time. I'd never gotten into real trouble just because I was constantly working. I had great weeks.
Starting point is 01:38:18 I had bad weeks. But if you're betting on stuff every other day or whatever, then that means you're kind of on tilt and not able to function most of the time. And this is when you were drinking a lot, too. This is when I was drinking a lot, too. So drinking and gambling together. I was drinking and gambling. Woo!
Starting point is 01:38:35 And then getting up at midnight. No, that's quarantine sleep schedule. My regular sleep schedule was drunk stuff, 4 or 5 a.m. How'd you kick it? Kick the? Gambling habit. The gambling, I had to just really take a look at what I was doing and then how it was serving me and look at the other stuff that I was doing,
Starting point is 01:39:00 and that's also gambling, investing. So realizing I had that outlet outlet it just wasn't in sports or you know throwing some dice but you can gamble why you know invested in a company early you can gamble by getting a building you can gamble by you know trying to produce your own show out of pocket all of these other things that's again more yeah sorta right again more of an investo it's an invest but if it you know investments go bust companies you know people didn't put you know millions of dollars billions into companies that quibi that and so that was an investment and people they were really hyped about
Starting point is 01:39:39 it and wrote big checks and yeah so it was really realizing that and just realizing that, you know, when I was, you know, looking at a game, it would take up time because I would get really into it and research the history with teams and look at all these other matchups. And so I could spend that time and mental energy on something else that's more productive. Well, that's a wise way of looking at it but a lot of people don't when they get sucked into something it's very hard to get like we were just talking about video games about my addiction to video games i just had to go cold turkey i just had to step away and go i can't fucking do this
Starting point is 01:40:20 anymore and just i figured it out and i. But that's not easy to do sometimes. Like sometimes whatever it is about gambling, like whatever switches that pops off in your brain that gives you that dopamine charge. Yeah. I mean, there's certain bets that are just super pleasurable. If you bet the total in an NBA game, if you bet over and you're there live, the total is what the two teams will score, 200 points. You're rooting for every score.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Everybody. Everybody. You're just, yeah, yeah, free throws. You're like, yeah, free throws. Everybody, you're just, yeah, yeah, free throws. You're like, yeah, free throws. So to have, you know, a couple grand on a game and you're rooting for both teams live. I didn't know you could do that. What's wrong with this guy?
Starting point is 01:41:13 Yeah, any total score, yeah, hockey, whatever, soccer, if the goals are over three, then you're rooting for both teams. You don't care if it's you know two to two or four to nothing or 54 like that's exciting yeah the over bet is super high jammy you gamble a little right yeah yep you gamble on fights too right yeah sure i would gamble on the over it's more fun to gamble on the over under on rounds and shit too you're like don't don't hang on hang on right right right right yeah who did i i'm trying to think of some memorable fights i had some money i think uh i had uh i had rumble johnson against texera oh that was a brutal knockout i had uh yeah i had rumble over
Starting point is 01:42:04 everybody except cormier. For whatever reason, Cormier's got his number. But Rumble hits anybody, they go night-night. He's coming back. He's bored, so he's coming back. Might come back as a heavyweight. Oh, wow. He's huge now.
Starting point is 01:42:18 I mean, fucking huge. Like 250, gigantic. I'll tell you the my craziest gambling story I talked I've told it on stage but this is the most this is where it was like it was really bonkers so I started I was I was bedding with a bookie but I'll use a site you know but it was you know know, if I won, the guy would send money, send a bunch of money in, $500 money orders, or, you know, I would just send PayPal or whatever, and it was like that.
Starting point is 01:42:56 But the thing was that since you could just do it like that, it made it, it's like sending a text, you're just doing it on a site, and so it doesn't, it's not the same as holding the cash and betting. What you really have to think about is you just typed it real quick. And so you're doing, you know, these large bets. So after a while, my tolerance was, I needed more. And I was on a hot streak. And so I asked my friend for another bookie with a higher limit.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Because the limit on my one was like two grand. And so he found this. He knew this guy that do 5,000 a game. That gets intense. But then it's 5,000 on the honors. So you're not putting up five each time. Because if I was putting up five with my physical each time, I probably would but because it was like five and five here and i had a hot streak i was betting on a lot of hockey at this time and i was getting i had a hot streak on hockey so much
Starting point is 01:43:56 and my gambling buddies bozeman and cj they started calling me hockey hannibal because i just was betting on vegas gold knights were really well. That was their first season, and Blackhawks were hitting some stuff. So I was doing parlay. So if you parlay a $5,000 bet with the total of something, then that five is 12, 15 wins. So I had a good run, and after a was up a hundred thousand cash and uh i love a hundred and so and it but i'd never put in any money so it was just i got this a hundred thousand from type and so i meet up with the guy in chicago and uh and i mean i pull up next to his car and he
Starting point is 01:44:42 and he had me a hundred grand cash in a brown paper bag. Whoa. Did you do like the Demi Moore thing where you throw the money on the bed and roll around naked? No. I put it on the table and kind of just really looked at it. I kept it free. Considering, I kept it kind of cool. I just put it on the table.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Like, what the? All hundreds? Yeah, all hundreds. How big is $100,000 in all hundreds? It's not great. It's a lot, but it's not, you know, it's not massive. It's a couple. It's a few stacks.
Starting point is 01:45:17 Yeah. And it was wild. So because there was no real effort to get that money, I didn't value it like that. And so in my head, the gambler's mind is not happy. It's like, it won't, it's all like, you know what? Let's get him for a hundred more. And the next week proceeded to go down, go down like 90 grand out of that hundred. And so he starts hitting me up.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Hey, can I get that 90? Um, and so I was too prideful at the time. I didn't want to give him the cash. I just want, he, we had an agreement to do PayPal on,
Starting point is 01:46:01 on some stuff, but he, of course it wasn't for, he didn't want to do PayPal for no 90 he didn't do PayPal for you know it was two
Starting point is 01:46:08 three but I was in a zone I don't want to I can't deal with giving his cash back and so and so he's asking
Starting point is 01:46:20 I'm PayPal and I PayPal him the 90 grand and then he sends that shit back. So now we playing hot potato. He wants the cash. Playing internet hot potato with $90,000. And yeah, so it was just really, it was intense.
Starting point is 01:46:43 And then he hit me up. And yeah, so it was just really, it was intense because I was like, yo, is this? And then he hit me up. Hey, we see you're going to be in Brooklyn. Oh, no. And so I try to, I puff up and just kind of say, hey, you don't want to show up to Brooklyn, dog. I got to make sure. I tried to talk some shit to get, hey, man, you don't come to Brooklyn. You're going to get touched.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Don't come to my show. You said that? Yeah, I texted him that thing. Don't come through Brooklyn. Brooklyn, you're going to get touched. Don't come to my show. You said that? Yeah, I texted him that thing. Don't come through Brooklyn. You said you're going to get touched? I texted. I was out of my mind. I was on tilt, man.
Starting point is 01:47:17 I was being ridiculous. Because I didn't want to welch, but I just didn't want to pay like that. And so eventually... You tried to pay. We sent it back. And eventually he just took it. But, yeah, that was. Eventually he took what?
Starting point is 01:47:31 The PayPal? The 90 via PayPal. Even though that probably was a heat, you know. Yeah, that's bad for the taxes. That's bad for taxes or whatever. And so I actually called him this week. I was like, yo, sorry, man. I was bugging back then. week, I was like, yo,
Starting point is 01:47:44 sorry, man. I was bugging back then. Says, yo, that was poor form on my part. My bad. I don't gamble no more. Sorry to put you through that and bring heat on you. And it wasn't but it was, that was the wildest
Starting point is 01:48:02 one, man. It just had me in a real irrational zone. Delete all that. My friend Dana White, the president of the UFC, he lost a million in a day. Yeah? A million. Playing blackjack. Yeah, playing blackjack.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Million. Million dollars. He won seven million in a day seven so he's doing crazy shit wow yeah that's and he's very wealthy so like the only way he's getting a charge is if he does some crazy shit yeah that's that's madness that's some it's it's intense that's hand sweaty i get hand sweaty talking about that like oh god Cuz I don't ever want to be that guy But I could be that guy like if I got into gambling
Starting point is 01:48:52 I I was gambling for a while on the UFC before I decided it probably wasn't a good look. This is like the early Early 2000s, but the early 2000s It was stealing money Right because there was a bunch of guys coming in like Anderson Silva And I would look at the odds with Anderson Silva over Chris Lieb and I'm like are you out of your fucking mind? This is a hundred percent fight like bet the house on the Brazilian Jesus Christ There was a few of those and I did it for a while and then I stopped but my business partner and on it He's gambled all the time, so I would just sit down with him before the fights
Starting point is 01:49:23 And so I was like this way my conscience is clear, but we were like 85%, 87%. Like it was stealing money because I know all these fighters. I know the fights. Like there's fights where a guy would be like slightly favored. I'm like, slightly? I'm like, this is a 100% fight. Or there's a guy that was the underdog.
Starting point is 01:49:42 I'm like, this is totally lopsided. And still to this day, sometimes they get it wrong still to this day I'll look at someone like I'm like how is that guy the underdog doesn't make any sense and then the fight will be like a domination by the guy was the underdog I'm like okay I should have bet that yeah but I don't bet on them but my business partner at on it man we made all he made you know I made it for him but we called a lot. I mean, literally high 80%.
Starting point is 01:50:08 It was just stealing money. Damn. Yeah. But that's barely gambling. That's kind of gambling, but that's like, I mean, it's gambling. Fights are crazy. Anything can happen, but some shit you know. Right.
Starting point is 01:50:21 When you know, yeah. I remember hitting you up for tips sometimes before i was like hey who you like on did i ever fuck you over did any of them ever turn bad i think most of them was solid most of them was solid when i when i hit you up uh so my uncle so it hit me oh we should me and my uncle should do a gambling podcast since i had he's sort of have some focus. He has it from the dealer perspective, and he gambles too. But he's seen—it's a fascinating perspective just to watch from that side
Starting point is 01:50:53 where you're facilitating people losing lots of money, and you get paid $10, $15 an hour, and you're just kind of the messenger. You're helping. And so his stories are wild, man. And so sitting in quarantine, oh, yeah, we should do that gambling podcast idea. And that's easy to do and we can do it remotely for now. And then we tried one out and it was a good feeling. Oh, yeah, this is a good, this is a dope show.
Starting point is 01:51:23 It's fun to do and we can, you know, get other gamblers on and just really talk about it and just, of course, not encourage people. I think I got to have something up top. This is not an endorsement to gamble. I'm just telling a story. We do not, gambler, you might lose your shit. Don't spend your college money.
Starting point is 01:51:40 Don't spend your Zoom college money. Don't spend your kids teleconference lecture fun but uh uh yeah it's really what was the craziest one he said like what's the nuttiest gambles that he saw he's just seeing people lose you know a few hundred thousand in a in a in a quick sitting you know just and yeah or it he's just seeing people really fall apart and and people really i was fortunate but some people really lose their whole lives just on some on chance on some cards on on some and they go crazy too they go crazy losing they can't believe it they just want to jump out of a fucking building. That's why when you go to Vegas all the windows and the casinos They don't open wide up right they don't let you just jump off because there would be people jumping off every couple of days
Starting point is 01:52:35 Yeah You think all the hundred when when Vegas was wide open all the hundreds of thousands millions of people coming in there And how many of them are just blowing insane chunks of cash. They don't pay for those places on the buffet. You know, that's not what pays for those big buildings.
Starting point is 01:52:51 It's people gambling. People losing. Losing. I watched this documentary on Amazon that something on the edge, gambling on the edge or something
Starting point is 01:53:03 where he's a card counting guy. And it's just, you know, it's just mostly just him getting kicked out of casinos, hitting camera footage, because they just come up to him, hey, we don't want your action anymore. How weird is that? You can't count cards. You can't be good at what you're doing. No, I mean, that's not in their business.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Hey, they say you can play any game here except for blackjack. They kick people out. People get beat up. They kicked Dana out of the Palms for winning. And, you know, so he pulled the UFC from the Palms. I was like, fuck you. Oh, because they didn't know it was him? They knew it was him.
Starting point is 01:53:40 They knew it was him and they kicked him out for what? Yeah. They used to have the fights there. And then they kicked him out of there. They said, you can't gamble here anymore. He's like, what? Like, you were fine if I lost. But as soon as you win, they'll just put the kibosh on you.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Yeah. That is strange. I mean, the casino business, they were one of the first companies to start asking for like four days into the lockdown. They started asking. four days into the lockdown they started at. Y'all been whooping motherfuckers for years and years and the world shut down for a few days and you get your hand out? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:13 There's a lot of businesses needed money constantly coming in. They can't just exist. Like the way they're set up, they need that. And no one ever thought there was going to be something that shut everything down where no money was coming in for months and months. That's never happened. You can't make a business model based on something that's never happened before. So everybody thought the money was going to keep flowing in.
Starting point is 01:54:38 Yeah, man. This was actually the first year that I kind of planned out the entire year. Before I had a full on, okay, January, I was supposed to do the Porn Awards, but I ended up not doing it. Did you get to do the AVN Awards? I think so. Yeah, but then I like last minute, I was like, I probably shouldn't do the Porn Awards. Last minute, I was like, I probably shouldn't do the 400 West. Then February, All-Star weekend.
Starting point is 01:55:09 March was South by Southwest. April was a 420 thing. May was something. June was I was going to go to the Olympics. And then I wanted to have one major event each month. That was the first time I planned out the year before. Just have experiences. Yeah, experiences and then kind of build the tour
Starting point is 01:55:28 around them. You know, go to the Olympics, also do some shows in Korea and around Japan a little bit. And then it was like, nope. When did you film Miami Nights? Miami Nights we filmed August of last year.
Starting point is 01:55:44 Oh, wow. Yeah. Why were you holding on to it so long it was just uh just getting stuff right and and yeah i we filmed it twice actually i filmed it in february of last year and then didn't like how it came out. And then I did it again, both out of pocket shoots. Oh wow. Yeah. Oof. But it was the right decision to do it again. How many shows did you film?
Starting point is 01:56:15 Two shows each time. You do four, right? I do four now, yeah. I did two before and I did it in Denver. The first show, some lady heckled. I'm like, oh my God, that bit's dead. Now I'm fucked. Now I have to get it right on the second show.
Starting point is 01:56:27 It was a lot of pressure. With the, I mean, with one bit though, if you riff it. It's a big bit. Yeah, it was a big bit. It's a big bit. It was a bit that led up to another bit too. There was a lot to it.
Starting point is 01:56:37 They piled on together. Yeah. And the way she did it, it was like, oh, come on, prove it. I was like, it wasn't even a good heckle. Yeah. It was like, I'm like, just give like it wasn't even a good heckle yeah it was like give me some time dummy i know what i'm doing here yeah but uh then i did four and when i did four i did four for triggered and i did it out of pocket like netflix had a certain amount budgeted
Starting point is 01:57:00 out but i said i want to do four and the idea was that if i did four when i went on stage for the first one it was like it was a regular show like i had no nerves i didn't feel like oh my god i gotta get this right if i get this right my second show will be loose i didn't feel that at all i just went out what's up hey it was just totally normal which one did you use most of the footage from out of four i don't remember on triggered i think it was probably the second night but on strange times my last one a lot of it was the first show because i was just so pumped up right out of the gate i was so excited yeah and i was ready like i i i've done specials before where i didn't plan enough but now now when I do a special, I treat it like I'm training.
Starting point is 01:57:48 I want to be like I'm running a marathon. I put those miles in. So when I get onto that stage the night of the show, everything's oiled up. Everything's just greased and smooth and every word's in place. And the experience of doing stand-up is so deeply ingrained in me. It's just a nightly thing. Every night, two, three shows. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
Starting point is 01:58:12 And so when I'm done, like, I want Saturday night, last show, like, I am fucking done with this material. I don't even want to hear these jokes anymore. I did it. I'm done. Nice break. Yeah. So, yeah, we filmed in August. I did a screening in November, the beginning of November,
Starting point is 01:58:33 because I didn't want to send it to folks first to shop. I had an event for it. I wanted to kind of create an experience around it versus somebody kind of watching it all dry in that office so I threw a party you know had some weed mint company we drinks you know food truck we made a mixtape just for the food truck and had I wanted to have his whole thing. And so then got some offers, but it just didn't feel great about them. And just once, you know, I had an offer in the beginning of March, and then I was sitting on it for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:59:21 And then in May, I mean, I agreed to agreed to and then i decided i'd rather drop it on my own because the world is crumbling and so i need to mix it up so i'd rather you know give it a shot because if i put it up there um the benefit would have been, oh, I'm touring. I'm going to tour in the fall, and it'll fill up. The tour will go crazy because it's up there. But then that went away, and it was like, well, now it doesn't look as great. And so I'd rather gamble on my own and just see what's up. So I decided to put it on YouTube and see what's up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:02 I think it's a good move to put things on YouTube. I mean, it worked out real great for Andrew Sch on YouTube. I mean, it worked out real great for Andrew Schultz. Mark Norman, it worked out real great for him. He loves it. Yeah. He's got like more than
Starting point is 02:00:11 two million views in like a couple of weeks. Yeah. It's been a month and some change for him because I was tracking his just to see how it went. One thing too is
Starting point is 02:00:20 I could take that shit down. Right. I could re-edit actually some bits that i might put that tylen bit back in there about the king so just the freedom to be able to you know what this is the other edition boom and that people oh i can take this down here it is with only the french redub and i have some french voiceover person do the bits, and that's going to be up for this week. And so it just lets me be creative and try more stuff, and it can still go to one of the places afterwards.
Starting point is 02:00:54 It's just right now I'm doing what I want with it, and then we'll see. And you can do it all yourself. Yeah. You can edit it all yourself. You don't need anybody. Yeah. I think that's going to be—a lot of comics are going to look to that in terms of accessibility. Right now, Netflix has the market cornered, but Amazon is sneaking in.
Starting point is 02:01:12 Gaffigan had a real good experience at Amazon, and he said that they got real excited about it. They had a lot of views. They were very excited. It was the most viewed hour they had in a long period of time. So he said they're going to do more. But the thing about doing something on YouTube is everyone can see it. The whole world. And you see it on your phone.
Starting point is 02:01:32 Instant. Like that. Anytime you want. You're on a bus. You're on a train. You're driving in your car. You can listen to it instantly. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:38 People share the link more so than they would share the other links. Yeah. And they share a link and you never have to worry about if you have the app. Everybody has fucking YouTube. And even if you don't have it, your browser opens up and you get it. Yeah. Yeah, so we worked hard on it, man.
Starting point is 02:01:55 It's one, just because of the situation with the false arrest, it's really, it's super personal because I kind of had to keep living that story every time I told it and then live it in the edit. It's just a funny situation, too. You're drunk, and this guy is arresting you for going back into a bar. So it wasn't that bar. I hadn't been in that bar yet.
Starting point is 02:02:23 You went to a different bar. I went to the bar after we spoke. I went to the bar, but he was still, he was upset about what I said. So he follows me into the bar. But then, you know, they, they made, they cut it on their body cam footage. They cut it to make me look crazy. He really left his post and followed me to be on bullshit. So, yeah, we probably.
Starting point is 02:02:44 Did he wind up getting fired uh i don't know i don't think i think he's still on the force for now that's abusive yeah that's the it's a lot of it's a lot of emotion and emotion a lot of ego-based policing on the on the super petty side you know where there's obviously the you know the policing on the super petty side, you know? Where there's obviously the issues on the extreme with the killings, those are terrible, but then there's a lot of motherfuckers that are ruining lives with petty arrests because somebody got to go, they got to miss work or something.
Starting point is 02:03:20 Motherfuckers get mad because they got looked at the wrong way. And then people got to go to. So it's a lot. You, a cop should be able to handle somebody talking a little shit to them. Drunk. You'll copy Miami. You should be used to my fucking talking a little drunk shit to you without you putting the cuffs on.
Starting point is 02:03:37 And if you can't, you shouldn't be a cop. You shouldn't. You're supposed to be better than us. Yes. Because it's less of you. You should be better than us. Yes. Because it's less of you. You should be better than us. You should have the mental fortitude to not freak out because somebody said some shit that you don't like.
Starting point is 02:03:51 And you have extreme responsibility. You have a gun on your hip in front of everybody. It's not like whether or not I don't know you have a gun or you might have a gun. No, you definitely have a gun. It's right there. And you're allowed to shoot people. You're allowed to. It's part of your job. You shoot people you're allowed to it's part of your job you're trained to shoot people it's part of your job you have to be elevated you have to be above normal discourse you have to be able to handle all kinds of shit and the reality is that's not the case with most people that are police
Starting point is 02:04:19 officers yeah man even that cop i was i was walking away from him, but I was just talking hella shit because he just followed me into a bar. And so I'm walking away. And so that shit was really, you know, I say is absolutely instigated that situation, but it wasn't an arrestable thing. instigated that situation but it wasn't an arrestable thing and the cost i had to pay for that is is pretty high as far as just you know my public shit on there just for a drunk night just for talking some shit and i'm on tmz i lost some corporate gig because of that because they just saw it and they oh you got arrested huh they just wiped the gig it was a decent paying you know it was a uh it was a Hockey Hannibal type of gig. In that range. So it was a rough little time, man, after that. So to finally kind of get the piece out, get the special out,
Starting point is 02:05:24 even just putting it out Friday was like a huge weight, like none of the other specials because it was, the other special was kind of done on a two-year clock too, and this one, filmed it twice, out of pocket. It had so many other elements that made it really heavy. And you had to close with that too. Yeah, had to close with it too yeah had to close with and that's why i threw a covet party i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry about the party i just i just
Starting point is 02:05:52 needed to to blow off some steam those mushrooms will let you know if you fucked up too oh man they will let you know they'll drag you they would drag you to the darkest part of your imagination. Yeah, man. It was like, oh, set and setting is super important. That's why they say silent darkness is the way to go. Set and setting is, man. At a COVID party, high on mushrooms, thinking you killed everybody, thinking you're going to go to some funerals. You're looking at people vibing out here like, what did I do? This is all me. You're like, this is some funerals. You're looking at people vibing out here like, what did I do? This is all me.
Starting point is 02:06:26 You're like, this is me. I did this. Man, I don't envy cops. I would not want that job. It is a very hard job. But I'm an optimistic person generally, but I don't know what's going to come out on the other end of all this shit. Get into those kill clips, huh? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:06:47 It's legit. I don't know what's going to come out on the other end of this. Bring Sam Harris now! Oh, the Sam Harris, that's right! I forgot about that. For people who don't know, Hannibal and I did a podcast where we got hammered. And then I had a podcast afterwards with Sam Harris and I think it was Josh Zeps. Yeah. Who's an Australian TV presenter now.
Starting point is 02:07:14 And you guys got into it about, he was pulling up stats on police brutality or violence with cops. And I was like faded. Like, shut up. I was not in a... I should have left after that podcast, after we... But I just stuck around. Oh, you were drunk.
Starting point is 02:07:36 I was drunk. I did call him a human PowerPoint presentation. There was something. I think it was just being so faded and in that tone. He was like... that was something I think it was just being so faded and in that tone he was in yeah well it's the touchiest subject in all of history cops killing people that's the touchiest subject you get killed by the people that are supposed to protect you especially unjustly you I mean, nothing else would have made that these protests the way they went down like that George Floyd video to see it so obvious where there's no ifs, ands or buts.
Starting point is 02:08:18 That is what it is. It is a cop who's supposed to protect someone. He's killing somebody in front of everybody. And it's being filmed by a 17-year-old girl. It's heavy, man. It doesn't get any heavier, and that's why the reaction was the way it is. It was like a powder keg.
Starting point is 02:08:33 It's like everything was building up. There had always been that. There had always been this insane tension, and then you see that, and it's just like, and we're still dealing with it. Still dealing with it still dealing with months later it's uh it's super it's super wild you know i was when i was driving to arizona uh i i stopped at a gas station to do somebody's, a Zoom interview thing. I just kind of, I set up the tripod and my phone
Starting point is 02:09:11 on the hood of the car. And then I was hyped, just, it was, I was like hyped to not be sitting at my computer. And I was just, you know, like, look at me, I'm outside. But because I had been off of social media, I didn't even know the Joyce Floyd thing had happened until I got until I was driving later. And my friend told me she was like, Joyce Floyd in Minneapolis. And so this had been I think it had been 48 hours or something at this point. But I was on some interview like hey what's going on I'm out
Starting point is 02:09:46 I'm outside oh my god just completely oblivious and just happy to be traveling and shit and not knowing what I was like maybe 45 minutes away from knowing what was happening in the world so they told you they didn't me, but they probably were wondering why I was acting so loosey goosey. Did you have that jacket on? I did not have this, what did I have on? I don't know, I had some shade song. It was a real, I was genuinely joyful
Starting point is 02:10:20 at just being on the road and having that feeling again. And then I found out an hour later, and it was like, oh, I probably look kind of crazy right there. A little jaded. Yeah, man. Yeah, but it's, I mean, how often are you off social media like that? Is that a normal thing for you? It was, well, it was the beginning of covid i
Starting point is 02:10:46 had to kind of that's when i i just got into that zone and well like turn this off like just send the if you want to get some stuff up just send it to your folks have them post it up and then it's better when i get in that zone anyway because it's more like operating like a quarterback than it is just being in it you know hey let's do this this day this day this day this day and then i'm able to just do whatever i want you know right just finish writing up the treatment for who said that and versus like looking at tweets you know you're serious about it said that the longest running joke ever callbacks man yeah it's all about callbacks this is a three hour podcast you gotta keep it weaving it in i get it i get it so you did the the interview
Starting point is 02:11:40 and then you found out afterwards found out after did you want to call them back and go hey no i didn't i didn't yeah it was and then i get to my sister's house and it's on the tv and and it was it's it's heavy man it's it's super heavy um but it's it's really just the training and it just needs to be a high level of training. I talked to Jocko Willink. He's a former Navy SEAL and a commander, and he said that they should be training 20% of their time. He said that they train for a very short amount of time in the beginning of their career, and then they don't train anymore. He said they should be training 20% of their time on the force. While they're there, they should be going over how to diffuse situations.
Starting point is 02:12:27 They should be going over how to keep people safe. What's your objective? What are you trying to do? When you come up to a drive, if you're emotional, if your partner's emotional, you got to see that and step in. You diffuse that situation and you step in and go, hey, Mike, let me talk to this guy. And then you come in and you be a nice guy. Figure out a way. If you see someone abusing someone, you got to to this guy. And then you come in and you be a nice guy. Figure out a way.
Starting point is 02:12:45 If you see someone abusing someone, you got to step in, step in, relieve him, and you take over and figure out a way to do it where the guy doesn't have to lose face, but you can keep everybody safe and figure out a way where they can train these people where shit like this doesn't happen. And we're in this time where these fucking people, they go to work every day wondering if they're going to die.
Starting point is 02:13:08 They go to work every day pulling people over. They're all freaked out. You never know what day is going to be your last. If you're a cop, you're seeing people get shot every fucking day. I mean, I can't imagine. To look at it from their perspective, to look at it with the rosiest of rose-colored glasses, I can't imagine that you're walking up on suicide victims, murder victims. You're walking up on robbery victims. You're constantly around violence and death and crime.
Starting point is 02:13:41 They're all PTSD'd out. That's what I think. I think most cops have extreme PTSD. And some of them can handle it. Some of them can just handle it. And there's a lot of them that are good people. And then there's a lot of them that should have never been fucking cops in the first place. There should have been a more stringent process.
Starting point is 02:13:56 That guy in the George Floyd case, you know they got into it when they worked together. As bounces, right? Yeah, because the cop was abusive. He was abusive to customers. And George Floyd and him got into it because of that. So there was a personal element to it. I don't want that job. You don't want that job.
Starting point is 02:14:13 I mean, fuck that job. But the people that get that job, we've got to figure out a way to make it safer for them, better for them, better training, and safer for everybody else. And I don't know what the fucking solution is No one does that's why we're all in chaos and the people running around defund the police like whoo Okay, do you know what's what that's like? That's like, New York City right now where people getting shot left and right
Starting point is 02:14:36 Did you see like the stats in New York City? It's crazy really it's fucking crazy. It was on the cover of the cover of the New York Post. See if you can find that about the amount of shootings. 41 people shot over the weekend, nine killed. Something crazy like that. When they said they've never had it like this. This is like since the 80s is the worst gun violence weekend they've had in the history of the police force. Damn.
Starting point is 02:15:05 Because they all but the police. Because they all hate the mayor. The mayor wants the cops to stand down. Cops are quitting left and right. The cops don't feel like they're supported by the mayor. The mayor is like this super progressive, you know, really liberal guy who is just, has no respect. The police officers have no respect for him. And they're quitting.
Starting point is 02:15:25 They don't want to do this. And then you've got people that don't think that they're in a place that's being policed. And so they're just going wild. They don't think the cops are coming. They don't think anybody's going to stop them. So that, and then,
Starting point is 02:15:35 you know, obviously with the COVID and the lockdown, how many people are out of work? How many people are broke? How many people are just on tilt, just starving and not knowing where their fucking money's coming from and super tense?
Starting point is 02:15:51 Damn, man. So you can't defund the police. We don't want to live in Mad Max. We don't want to live in Mad Max. We want more funding for the police, better education for the police. And we all got to come to some sort of a fucking agreement. Cops are us. Mandatory meditation for the police and we all got to come to some sort of a fucking agreement cops are us mandatory meditation for the police the mushrooms
Starting point is 02:16:10 mushroom mushrooms for all cops they have to yeah yeah they had the cops got to go to Joshua Tree mandatory mushroom training yeah I feel like that I feel like the mandatory mushrooms could help. Everybody, including politicians. Mandatory mushrooms for politicians. I want to be in the room with like Governor Newsom of California. I want to be in the room when that guy eats five grams. I want to see how he freaks out. How do you handle it?
Starting point is 02:16:39 We should all be able to watch you eat five grams. I want to know who you are. When the devil comes knocking at your door. The floor is lava. Did you find the cover? It said tripled over the week compared to the year before. That's all it was comparing it to. Well, just the numbers though.
Starting point is 02:17:01 What is that? It was 101 compared to 26. 101 people shot. Yeah. Okay, I was What is that? It was 101 compared to 26. 101 people shot. Yeah. Okay, I was wrong. I thought it was 40. Damn. 101 people shot over the weekend.
Starting point is 02:17:12 That's crazy. That's crazy. That is fucking crazy. I mean, for New York, though. New York City's going to skyrocket as court closures let pistol perps walk free. Woo! New York City is going to skyrocket as court closures let pistol perps walk free. Woo!
Starting point is 02:17:34 There's like 1,800 people, I think, that have some sort of charge that haven't been fully charged because the courts are in lockdown chaos because of the COVID. Chaos. Whoa. 1,000 people have been indicted with a gun possession charge where the cases are open and they are walking around the streets of New York City today. Wow. There's 800 more that have been charged and not formally indicted yet. Fuck. And that's just in New York City.
Starting point is 02:17:54 Oh, my God, that's madness. 2,000 shooters running around New York. Just think of that. You can't defund the police, folks. All that crazy, progressive, Marxist nonsense of defunding the police. Stop. You want to be safe. You want everybody to be safe.
Starting point is 02:18:14 You just want the police to be way better at what they're doing. Way better. And they're going to need funding for that. Seems counterintuitive, right? Like if cops are abusive, they shouldn't get money. But that's not going to the cops. It needs to go to education, and they need to figure out how to do it better. What am I, a cop educator?
Starting point is 02:18:32 The fuck am I talking about? You coming to me for cop advice? You fucked up. I'm a pothead and a cage-fighting commentator. Are you coming to me for cop advice? Yeah, man. It's going to be the fall. That's why I'm advice yeah man it's gonna be the fall that's why I'm trying to get about out of here oh get out of here by November no matter who wins in November it's gonna be madness yeah I want to just I
Starting point is 02:18:54 want to I don't want to hear about no more you know versions of this. We're not calling it urban music anymore. Aunt Jemima. I'm like, oh. Pancakes are racist. Let me just, I mean, it's just the changes. I don't know. Just the grandstanding part of it.
Starting point is 02:19:23 I think it, and it's tough to gauge. I mean, most of it is just, you know, they want their company to do well. So they look at, oh, let's do it. And so. And then the politicians are playing off it both ways. You have some politicians that are playing off it. They're supporting that.
Starting point is 02:19:47 And then some politicians like Trump, he's upset that the Washington Redskins and the Cleveland Indians are going to change their name now. What are the Redskins finally? They finally broke? It looks like they're breaking. They're talking about breaking. But what are they going to call themselves? Like, what's offensive? I mean, the Trump faces.
Starting point is 02:20:03 Washington Trump faces. Yeah. We're the Washington have Trump faces? Yeah. We're the Washington spray tans. Yeah. We're not the Redskins. What are they going to call themselves? Do we know? They haven't done any.
Starting point is 02:20:18 There's a bunch of names, but like a lot of the professional soccer teams or football and Premier League and whatnot, they could just be like the Washington FC, like football club, literally, and just be the city team. Do you know how valuable those Redskins jerseys are going to be? They'll make new ones with just the new, without Redskins on it now. I know, but the old Redskins jerseys are going to be so valuable. Yeah, well, they're not selling them anywhere now. They're not?
Starting point is 02:20:39 Amazon took them all off. Nike took it all off. Wow. Really? Yeah, I mean. Within the last couple of weeks? Within the last couple of days. Somebody's about to start making some on Etsy.
Starting point is 02:20:48 What I thought was crazy was NASCAR just removed the Confederate flag. They just did it. Just recently. Last week? Yeah, it was the Bubba Wallace thing. Just recently removed the- I didn't think it was the Bubba Wallace thing. Just recently removed the kid. I didn't think it was still there. That is the last.
Starting point is 02:21:09 Hey, while everybody's looking, let us do this real quick. Let's get this up out of here. That's the last ground. Yeah. It's interesting, man. It's weird where this is all going to end. Because there's going to be an adjustment, right? There's an overcorrection, and then there's an adjustment,
Starting point is 02:21:27 and things come forward and back. And, you know, we want to get to a place where people are just cool with each other. And we're not there. And I'll be on my farm in Ghana, you know, directing films. And just living off my, who said that? Doing my gambling podcast. Do they have stand-up in Ghana? Have you checked on that?
Starting point is 02:21:53 They do. Yeah, they do. And then in Nigeria, I did some stand-up in Nigeria. Did you really? It was Comedian Basket Mouth that hosted us over there and did some shows with him. Yeah, a lot of people perform in pidgin English. Oh.
Starting point is 02:22:13 So I wanted a show that I went to. I didn't know what the fuck was being said, but this guy's a solid performer. His delivery sounds airtight, but I'm getting nothing. And so you went and did your stand-up, but did they not understand you? No, they understand English, but people, the performing pigeon. Oh, so they preferred you to perform in pigeon, and when you were just doing it in regular English, it didn't work with them? No, it worked.
Starting point is 02:22:43 It's just if I performed in Pigeon, that would have went well. But I did a set. It's just one of those things, too, where they want to, well, I don't know what they wanted, but when you talk about outsider perspective on stuff, then they, you know, oh, okay. He's talking about, oh, yeah, he dealt with our traffic. He dealt with this.
Starting point is 02:23:03 He saw this. Just hearing an American come in and speak on Lagos, which was bonkers. It took four hours to get from the airport to the hotel. The traffic in Lagos is insane. Is it like one of those places where people don't pay attention to lights? insane and is it like one of those places where people don't pay attention to lights lights i don't i mean the the traffic is so crazy on the highway that people sell stuff on the highway like on a on a fucking six-laner it's people like walking selling snacks i think i bought what i bought like banana chips or something just to snack on and oh shit yeah that's real legos traffic is oh
Starting point is 02:23:49 it's like if new york only had the bqe and that's it that's kind of what cars are parked sideways on the highway yeah they just gave up they up. They have tents. Look at that. They have umbrellas. It's an existential level of traffic where you're like, well, I guess this is it. I'm here now. Four hours.
Starting point is 02:24:13 Four hours from airport to hotel. And how far are you going? Probably no traffic. It's 30, 40 minutes. Wow. It was, yeah. That is fucking insane, these images. Jamie, what are you Googling so people can Google along with you?
Starting point is 02:24:36 Legos Nigeria traffic. Folks, this is insane. There's people standing in the middle of the highway with umbrellas. And not a few people. A lot of people. Yeah, it's... Oh, my God, this is crazy. Oh, my God, it's everywhere.
Starting point is 02:24:57 Yeah, and you know, some stuff you take for granted over here. Emission standards. You just accept them it's kind of but I remember we were behind this semi truck and it let off some shit
Starting point is 02:25:15 into the sky that was so like smoky look at this shit this is crazy my friend Babylon said he said Captain Planet would have a fit with this shit just cuz the smoke was so crazy this video is what is this video title that's a slum it's a 4k drone video and this is all water so these houses are in water just barely above the water on sticks. This is fucking crazy.
Starting point is 02:25:47 And everything's on fire. Look at that. Oh, my God. This is madness. But it's amazing that so many people live there. And then, you know, this is just what they accept. People just get used to a certain way of living and for them I mean it's probably normal life for you or for us
Starting point is 02:26:10 we go there like what the fuck but the once you're in the mix the shit is dope I had a great time and you know going to different spots what's the food like there food is great it's a lot of spice on stuff uh but i haven't been to ghana yet so i'm excited about ghana um yeah lagos is is is a intense spot that's intense china has been invested in and buying up a lot of uh they've been investing all over Africa, kind of building infrastructure everywhere. Yeah, they're doing a lot in the Congo as well. There's a lot of mineral rights and stuff they're taking there, a lot of precious elements and stuff,
Starting point is 02:26:56 things that they use for cell phones and all kinds of stuff like that. Yeah. I've never been to any place like that, but I've been to mexico city and i was stunned by the air quality there too mexico city is madness man i took photos of it and i put it up on my instagram it looks like i'm flying into a fire and see if we could find that like i took like as i was flying and i was like this is this does not even look real it looks like you could barely see the buildings because it's just fought
Starting point is 02:27:25 that's it look at that that's not a fire that's my phone out the window crazy wait are you saying the smoke oh yeah all that smoke in the background yeah that's all just emissions that's not a fire like you can see like a mile or two out and that's it. Everything else is just clouds. But it's just exhausts. Yeah. A lot of the big cities, a lot of the cities in India have the same issue. Bangkok. Bangkok. I remember I had an option to maybe take a seven or eight minute Uber or do a 15, 20 minute walk from somewhere from my hotel in Bangkok and I
Starting point is 02:28:08 did the walk but when I got back to the hotel I felt filthy I felt the pollution on my skin it was my worst walk decision ever. at that image from bangkok yeah god damn that's crazy that is that that's like you're in the middle of a raging forest fire like you can't yeah i remember just getting there man oh man i took i had to take a shower just from that walk it was because he's sweating in his it was it was next level when I was in Mexico City I got a headache I was like I'm getting a headache just from the air and plus it's that altitude Mexico is pretty high up there and there was for the UFC fights which was really crazy because
Starting point is 02:28:58 they're like 8,000 feet above sea level so there's thin air and then bad air it's a combination of both things yeah so they train it in yeah they well some of them uh like fabrizio verdum that was when he beat cain velasquez he went up into the mountains and he trained actually higher than 8 000 feet above sea level and he went up there way in advance so he can acclimate and he was in superb shape because of that and then kane who's usually known for his cardio actually gassed out the cane cane didn't know that he was training like that kane couldn't go there early he came out like two weeks out and that's not enough if they say you're actually better off going there the day of than going there two weeks of be two weeks before because two weeks before you're actually you're not going to acclimate
Starting point is 02:29:44 you're actually just going to be tired you know because your body's still trying to figure out what the fuck is going on why is there no air we're lucky man oh we're lucky and there's a china is even worse in some cities man there was one city that i saw in china where the there was so much pollution in this video that it looked like the sky, like it was nighttime, and it was during the day, and it was just coal, just burning coal in the air, just particulates. The air was like a dark gray. It was crazy.
Starting point is 02:30:15 See, we find that, it's like, it's weird to look at, because you imagine like if that was your mom living there, or your daughter, or your family, if this is where you have to survive and you have to look up into that sky every day it's like a like a judge dread movie you know it's doom yeah man i couldn't yeah i struggled just in denver when i was out of shape and i had a gig in denver and i was drinking a little bit. At one point I started forgetting jokes and I hadn't smoked
Starting point is 02:30:47 a drink before the show. But I was blanking out and then another show my breath shortened up. I had to step off stage to go get my inhaler. I told Tony Trina, DJ, I said, hey man, play something real quick. He started
Starting point is 02:31:03 scrambling and shit. You have asthma? Yeah, I have asthma. Oh, wow. Yeah. That would fucking suck. Asthma at high altitude? Yeah, asthma at high altitude and in bad shape is a terrible combination. Have you found any of that shit from China?
Starting point is 02:31:24 In the middle of looking, I had to pee and I was about to go run and pee. So I got distracted. We can wrap this up. We're almost at 6 o'clock and that's when we find out That's when we find out if I got the COVID.
Starting point is 02:31:40 Do I got the COVID? Do I have it? I don't think so. Who said that? Put it in your bed. Send it to my Venmo. Miami Nights. Miami Nights. Available right now. Miami Nights available on YouTube.
Starting point is 02:31:55 Next time when you're coming back from Ghana, I need to know. I need to know what that was like. We need to talk. Yeah, man. Come back and- I'm going to write a book. Ooh. Have you ever thought about writing a book before this
Starting point is 02:32:06 I have I had a book deal in 2013 what happened I realized that I would have to write a book and then I was like I don't want to do that it's a lot of work
Starting point is 02:32:25 I have a lot of respect for people who have done it because that's a thing if you're an author you've really done it you really wrote a book that's a big deal it's just you know I think it's once you lock in on what you want it to be and then just force yourself to
Starting point is 02:32:42 to focus my friends who've done it though like Tom Poppo or Norton or Whitney, they say it's fucking brutally hard. It's a lot of work. It's an extreme amount of effort. That they work with. I wonder, I guess it's just finding a good editor, too, and just what the angle is.
Starting point is 02:33:02 Just write down everything. Just kind of let it fly and then cut it down. I had a book deal once. The editors, it was so annoying talking to them. They essentially wanted me to take my stand up at one point in time, just transcribe it.
Starting point is 02:33:18 I was like, I'm not doing that. And their idea of what it wanted to be or what they wanted it to be versus my idea, I just gave them the money back. I'm like, I'm not doing it. Damn. That was like
Starting point is 02:33:27 more than 10 years ago. Yeah, that was before the podcast even. Damn. Yeah, so probably, I'm gonna do it. Actually,
Starting point is 02:33:37 we supposed to, we were supposed to do a, people still hit me up about, we talked about doing a gig. Was it Newfoundland or was it somewhere else? Something crazy like that. It might have been New a gig. Was it Newfoundland or was it somewhere else? Something crazy like that. It might have been Newfoundland.
Starting point is 02:33:47 Was it Newfoundland or was it, it wasn't Nova Scotia. Somewhere weird. Somewhere weird, somewhere Canadian. I'm still down for that. All right. Let's do it. When things get normal. 2021, when I'm back.
Starting point is 02:34:01 Back from Ghana. Back next fall. The King of Ghana tour. All right. Come see. Back from Ghana. Back next fall. The King of Ghana tour. All right. Come see the King of Ghana in Nova Sculpture. Well, thank you, sir. Always a pleasure, brother.
Starting point is 02:34:13 Thank you, man. And your YouTube special is available right now. Right now. You can check it out. And the King of Ghana will be released in December of 2021.
Starting point is 02:34:25 Good night, everybody. Stay tuned for Who Said That? Who Said That? Episode 200.

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