The Joe Rogan Experience - #1535 - Tim Kennedy

Episode Date: September 11, 2020

Special Forces operator and retired UFC fighter Tim Kennedy is the founder of Sheepdog Response, a training program aimed at giving law enforcement, military, and others the tools they need to quickly and effectively respond to violent threats.

the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day well i of course come bearing gifts to two new texans so that's that's a separate thing um but i i did i was at the range working and I was wearing a Hawaiian shirt. It wasn't even a Hawaiian shirt. I bought it in Czech Republic. And, but it looked like Hawaiian shirt. And in the comment section, I was in body armor. I had my gun.

I was literally working. Everybody was like, oh my gosh, you're wearing a Hawaiian shirt. Or you're part of this super extremist, like white supremacist group. And I was like, what? I'm wearing a Hawaiian shirt. And they start like freaking out, like cancel culture. and i was like what i'm wearing a hawaiian shirt and they start like freaking out like cancer culture and i was like i bought that it doesn't matter where i bought it but now because you're telling me i'm not supposed to wear it because i guess hawaiian shirts are for a uniform for white supremacists oh god please google this this is a new thing

yeah what yep hawaiian shirts are white supremacists do Yeah, you can't do it. So, of course, the first thing I did was like, buy every Hawaiian shirt I can possibly find just because I'm not supposed to. Who the fuck is saying this? I need to see this. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How can a Hawaiian shirt be white supremacist? I don't think there's any logic ever attached

to any of these things. No. But I think the Boogaloo bros... Yeah, so that's what the Wall Street Journal says. But I think the Boogaloo bros... Yeah, so that's what the Wall Street Journal says. Why the extremist Boogaloo boys wear Hawaiian shirts. Please put that up on the screen.

I need to see this fucking nonsense. What? Oh my God, this is real. Why the extremist Boogaloo boys wear Hawaiian... I'm not joking. Oh my God. Aloha shirts have become

a disconcerting signature for members of a gun-toting anti-government... What does it say? You made it a little too big. I work for the government. So... Faction.

Does that cancel this? Oh my god. In the past couple weeks following the killing of George Floyd, curiously dressed counter-protesters have attended scattered demonstrations across the U.S. armed and disconcertingly garbed in Magnum P.I PI style floral Hawaiian shirts. Magnum PI is pretty fucking American. Yeah, it's pretty epic. Three things here.

They're really comfortable. Floral's a great pattern. And they're very breathable. And on the range, I like to do the top button thing and pop a collar so you don't get hot brass down your neck because we're shooting a ton. So it's like a, don't get burned. Don't want to be redneck. You know?

Yeah. Like, I hate white supremacists, but. What's like a don't get burned don't want to be a redneck you know like i hate white supremacists but what's wrong with hawaiian shirts we can't let them take away hawaiian no that's the exact point that i'm trying to i was like you tell me the things that i'm not supposed to do and i'm going to do those things because i'm not going to let you take those things from me there they are far right boogaloo movement is using hawaiian church that's a chubby shirt tensions the dude right there on the far right. I have that shirt. Oh, they're wearing the shirts to hide their intentions. What?

No, they wear them because they're comfortable and they're breathable. And this one's stretchy. They're taking away everything fun. You can't even do okay anymore. Remember? Okay is now. I still do that. I do too.

It's been around way too long. You can't steal. Scuba diving, skydiving military like you like i can't i don't know what the other symbol is for not okay there's some things that it's like gay people took over the rainbow okay you can have the rainbow i don't know i like my son really likes the rainbow i like rainbows he's five i don't i'll still wear a rainbow i don't give a fuck oh for sure but i do recognize that it's rainbow i don't give a fuck oh for sure but i do recognize that it's i mean at least they have partial ownership of it yeah but like the okay sign um you know you can use the emojis to text people yeah and i cannot help but use the okay sign it's still on the emojis yeah it is for any positive response controversial it's not what about thumbs up when's that gonna be bad yeah pretty soon

it has to be so fucking stupid it is in some other country correct thumbs up is yeah when i was young they always taught us like your middle finger means something america but in like some other country it doesn't but like thumbs up in some countries real bad sort of like cunt in english like the italians like do the the chin thing yeah there's like symbols in different countries mean different things oh Oh, okay. I don't know how bad it really means, if they're really going to get pissed, but I've heard always.

Find out where the thumbs up is bad. I'm never going there. Get the thumbs up. I want to find out where saying okay is bad. And then, oh, dang it, we're already here. Most of those started off with 4chan just fucking around 4chan was just pretending in iran greece russia sardinia and parts of west africa the thumbs up is as rude as the middle finger is in the uk so no posing in front of the parthenon

making the thumbs up gesture like a nerdy tourist oh god i God. I'm doing it. If I go there, I'm going to do that for sure. I'm in West Africa a bunch, and this is okay. Okay. Yeah. And there's only black people there. Yeah. So nobody's getting mad

at my okay symbol. They probably do it too. I've got a picture of Beyonce doing it. I saved a bunch of pictures of black folks doing the okay symbol, and I was sending it to my friends. People were saying that there's something wrong with the OK. I'm like,

you can't take away something that's been around forever that just means OK. And the whole, the thing about there were some people that were doing it like upside down. So that's a military thing. Oh, okay. Explain that. It's an asshole. This is an asshole.

So the game is, at any moment, we're talking over here, you're like, oh man, I hurt my leg down here. And if you look at it, I gotcha. And I get to flick you in the dick. Really? Yeah. So like, pop. Wait a minute.

But you can cancel it if you can get your finger in there. What? Yeah. So it's a game that has existed in every single basic training. You have to remember that the audience that we're talking about here, like these are guys that are volunteering to go to war, so they're not right. Right.

But I mean, as long as I've been in the military for 16 years, this is an asshole. And the game has always been like, gotcha. And it's a gotcha moment if they look down at it. So if you do that that that thing and then someone sees it they have to stick their finger in it or you hit them in the dick yep okay yeah that's the game to the game i was trying to tell you like two years ago i still would play this with my friends but it became this whole thing but i'd never heard of this doing it could also

be internet 4chan meme shit where they're taking it to another level and giving all kinds of media to it. But do you remember when those cops, they all got in trouble because they were taking the picture and everyone's saying these cops are doing the white power thing. But you're saying that's not what that is at all. So West Point, at one of the recent graduations, I think Trump spoke there, a bunch of the West Point graduates were doing that symbol. Because it's a W and a P. Yeah. the west point graduates were doing that symbol because it's a wnp yeah well that's what the the article was like oh no a bunch of white supremacists are graduating from west point and so there's a huge military investigation i mean pentagon sending people out to research this and they're like oh

shoot it's them playing an asshole game this is this is actually not better because now our West Point, the most prestigious military academy, our graduates are playing their senior year at a Trump graduation, the asshole game. And the asshole game has consequences and those are dick slaps. Yep, that's right.

Unless you get your finger in there and then you're safe. That's so fucking ridiculous. We have to like Amuse ourselves Well the problem is with someone being able to write an article like that And say this is a white power symbol And then all of a sudden these people get labeled As white supremacists

And then there's no repercussion Because once the article's out there Even if you have a retraction The original article's still out And the damage is done And those guys are labeled as white supremacists When they're really just dorks. Have you ever read a retraction?

Not one. No. No. I don't believe I have. No. Maybe someone showed me one a couple times. But when someone gets accused of something like that, that's a pretty heinous thing. Like, a retraction's not going to reach the same amount of people. No. I would be enraged

if somebody was like, hey, you're a white supremacist because you did this thing. And I was like, I'm not a white supremacist, and that thing is an asshole. Like, how are we going to equal this out here? Because that's not forgivable. They should be sued. It's like you're doing some irreparable damage to someone. It's just so weird today. Everyone, it's just like i can't

imagine a time where people are more outraged about more things yeah i i really think it's just you say more people but i really just think it's a small percentage of people that are always outraged yeah on both sides all the time and they have an opportunity to talk about it more now yeah because we're all connected and they can piss other people off. I just want to go both sides and give people big hairy ogre troll hugs and be like, it's all going to be okay. We love you. It's fine.

Yeah. Please stop tweeting. Like Trump, just give me your phone. You're not allowed to tweet anymore. At least he's funny sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes he's fucking funny, man. He makes me laugh like

one out of ten times i will laugh out loud at his tweets yeah you know yeah first of all sometimes i laugh out loud because i can't believe he's the fucking president i can't believe that guy's the president and then he'll say some ridiculous shit and i'll just go oh my god when he called the girl that he fucked that uh that porn star when he called her horse face on Twitter, I was like, this is amazing. This is so crazy. I'm amazed that that man's president. Right now.

President, acting president, calling a woman he fucked horse face. Yeah. Oh my God. It's just the weirdest time. 2020, what a time. Oh, it's amazing. But I mean, you know,

there's some i wish i could be doing stand-up right now you know if i could do stand-up it would be more fun because it'd be stuff i mean so much material here but yeah but actual material that you could work out about today holy shit there's never been a bigger gold mine that we hit everybody's like get the pans out of the river i don't think you're allowed to talk about it though oh yeah you are i mean yeah i know you think that comedians should be allowed as as i do i think comedy is um the best way to address socially sensitive issues yeah like if you can't one of the things about the military is there's a lot of dark humor and people kind of look at us as these scarred um damaged people because of that humor but the truth is like we're able to talk about those things through this humor.

And whether it's like a release for post-traumatic stress or just how we're able to get to the next day, how we're able to go and do some of the things that we do, it's because we're allowed to joke and laugh and burn that stuff off these sensitive times. And I think that's what comedy does to these socially charged issues. Yes. to these socially charged issues. Yes. And J.P. Sears, long-haired kind of hippie YouTuber, he has been recently kind of attacking

how comedians can't make jokes right now and how everything has been charged and there's not a way, like you can't make racist, sexist, um, jokes or political jokes whatsoever, uh,

without being canceled. And I was like, that's the best time to do it. Yeah. Ari Shaffir had the best quote about that. He said, this is a great time for comedy because comedy is actually dangerous again. Ah,

it's cool. It's actually dangerous. Whereas like five years ago you would say something and people didn't like it. They didn't come see you. Yeah. Now they'll attack. Yeah. And you have consequences.

But I think you just have to structure your bits better. You have to treat them like Doug Stanhope has a great quote that he was talking to me about. He said, I go over my bits like I'm a defense attorney. He said, I go over my bits like I'm a defense attorney. Like I'm going over my bits like I'm being prosecuted with, you know, someone's using the bit against me. And so I have to figure it out like a defense attorney. I'm like, that's a great way of looking at it. Yeah, but what a horrible approach in the process to.

It is and it isn't because he writes the joke first and then he figures out how to make it bulletproof. You know, I, I have, my method is usually I shit on myself so hard that by the time that I get to shitting on someone else, like I've, I've already figured out like most of my bits that are controversial, they start out with me belittling myself, like in the most vicious way I can, like explaining what a fucking idiot I am. And then all the dumb shit that i've

done that's related to this thing and they're like when i wanted to make a joke about caitlin jenner what i talked about was the first thing i talked about is how living with all women i have three daughters and my wife like and then the way i described it was it's like if my manhood was a mountain of marbles every day they take two like you have so many marbles god is every day to snatch a marble snatch a marble and my whole bit was getting to i was one i wanted to get to people are saying he was born a woman he's always been a woman i was like maybe or maybe if you live with crazy bitches long enough all the time they fucking turn you into one yeah maybe you go crazy maybe that too especially those ones especially those ones and so i had to figure out a way to do and so i came up with this thing where they're demons and they whisper in his ear

in the middle of the night and they talk him into being a woman but it took forever to figure out a way but i had but it worked like it worked and people didn't even get mad at me for it i just had to figure out a way to do it where i first of all, I belittle myself and then I explain it in a way where it's not dehumanizing trans people. It's just saying, are we sure? Yeah. Are we sure? We lost a fucking Olympic gold medalist, goddammit.

We lost one of our greatest athletes ever. You look in the record book. What does it say now under Bruce Jenner? What does it say? I don't know. Are you even allowed to say that anymore? I don't think you can. Wikipedia is going to put up whatever they want,

which won't be factual, but how would the record books portray that? I don't know how they handle it. If you say that on Twitter, you'll get banned for life. If you call him Bruce Jenner on Twitter, it's dead naming. They'll ban you for life. Good to know. It's hilarious. that vexes me in a different way yeah yeah the fact that you have to think about a joke and it's political or cancel culture ramifications to

make sure it's politically correct enough for it to be bulletproof whether you're like your defense attorney that sucks to me it doesn't it and it doesn't because it's an opportunity to make your jokes better. You can just make them, and again, if you can get away with it, it's more sweet, it's more juicy.

Yeah. Man, I really like that First Amendment thing, you know? Yeah, I like it too. And I really like

people being able to say things that make my blood boil and I don't want them to say things that are, like, I don't want to drink this coffee when it's lukewarm. Right. And I think that's what conversation is when you're,

when you're everything politically correct is just this disgusting, gross version. If I'm gonna have champagne, I want to be freaking cold. Yeah. You know, perfect 30, 36 degrees.

Yeah. Um, I don't want lukewarm coffee. I don't look warm champagne. I want perfect and that's what communication is and when you start neutering how someone can talk

that's not being able to express an idea you're limiting the counter to that though is that when you do get away with it it makes it even more powerful a joke yeah I'm telling you man the jokes that

i've said on stage that are against political correctness that are good like the way i've figured out a way to weave some of them when they hit man they hit like a bomb like the whole room was like like they know i go you know i'm right you know what i'm saying like i'm not a bad person you know what i'm saying no like i have this this whole chunk that I do on banning words. And the whole chunk, it's like it took forever to figure out how to manipulate it and get it to this place where you could sneak it in on people. And sneak it in on people that would ordinarily say those words in polite company. And people would, or assholes would tense up. But you can get it in.

And when you get it in, whoo, it's yeah but i'm with you man you know i want whiskey to get me drunk i don't want fake whiskey no yeah i'm not interested i think there should be consequences i think i think the best way to combat things that you disagree with is to say how you feel not not to say that person shouldn't be able to say that that's ridiculous that's dumb i was watching this video yesterday and these guys are just saying dumb shit we're talking about people getting cloned in china and this lady goes de-platform that shit seriously she's like like what no i want dumb people to say dumb things yes especially our politicians like the i think the art of listening has been lost. Um, one of the best things about, I think this podcast is that

you're a good listener, right? It takes, it takes a decently smart human that has a self-confidence and developed interpersonal skills to listen. That's lost in current culture where, um, I, I'm going to get so viscerally, viscerally outraged at something that somebody's saying, I can't even hear their point of view. Even if that point of view is wrong, you want that person to say that. And the dumber it is, the more I want them to say it because the dumber they sound. And the more we collective logical, reasonable person, people are like, like well that person's really dumb and his ideas are not going to work so let's not follow him anymore and then we're able to to process or have a counter this is what's wrong with what that person's saying but the idea you're supposed to de-platform them

it's so bad it's so stupid because then what if someone thinks that they should de-platform you and i think you probably should be de-platformed for telling people they should be de-platformed. How about that? Yeah. If you're the person that, if that's more dangerous than some dummy thinking that they're cloning people in China. And by the way, they might be cloning people in China. I just don't know.

I mean, who the fuck? Look, they can clone people. We know that. If anybody's going to do it. Yeah, they're going to do it. They're probably doing it. China would be doing it. They're probably doing it.

Look, I mean, it's probably the least of our concerns. do it yeah they're gonna do it they're probably doing it they're probably doing it look i mean it's probably the least of our concerns you know i mean as far as overpopulation goes i mean china's trying not to have as many people they mean they had a whole one child policy forever yeah it turned out to be disastrous and tilted everything extraordinarily male i mean i would not be want to be a man in china trying to find a woman. No. Right? I mean, I don't know if I balanced that out yet, but that was a real issue for a long time. I wouldn't want to be in China at all. No.

Because I'm a big fan of... Freedom. Yeah. Yeah, freedom's nice. It's pretty powerful. It's goddamn important. And when you say deplatforming people, you don't think you're taking away freedom, but you are. You're taking away a little bit of freedom. You don't think you're taking away freedom, but you are.

You're taking away a little bit of freedom. I think it's extra important right now where people have been isolated for this whatever six, five months now from COVID where they're creating echo chambers. When they curate their own information access, we're like, I'm not going to listen to this guy or I want this guy to be platformed, or any of the social medias obviously, are limiting what kind of voices are being heard. While you're sitting there at home for the past four months, and you're just in this echo chamber of your own ideas and people that agree with you, it magnifies and radicalizes what you believe. And there's no logical sound soundboard there's no bounce off there's no pressure check there's no refiners fire to those ideas because it's an echo chamber yeah and like you're reading the exact same things on twitter you're seeing the same things on facebook you're looking at the same things on instagram then you turn on the tv and of course

they're saying all the same things that you already agree with and they're just these ideas continue and gain momentum and they're not real because they've never been tested against anything that disagrees with them or that, that contradicts them. And all, I think all ideas have to go through that process for them to be real. Is that, that, that refiner's fire of, is this really going to work? Well, let's apply pressure and find out. Yeah.

There's, there's this defund the police thing that's going around right now. My friend Matt had this funny thing that happened. He has a son. His son's about 25, I think he said. And his son was talking about defunding the police, and he's arguing with him. His son's real liberal and the whole deal. Then his son was staying at, they have a beach house, and it's an old house. And the house was making some crazy noises. He ran outside and called his dad. And he said's something going on the house I'm gonna call the police he goes I thought you wanted to defund the police he goes now you're the fucking house is haunted and you're calling the police what you went from

defund the police to the house is making noise let me call the cops yeah that's that's a pretty fast jump I mean that's not only idiotic it's dangerous it's dangerous and stupid and it's everything it's everything wrong with these ideas that just get propagated online with that no one really thinks through but then they get they become a thing that you if you're cool you say it if you're in the right group you say it and that's what defund the police is and and even fighting against those ideas for some reason you like if I I believe defunding the police is the dumbest thing you could possibly do. Do I think there might be problems within law enforcement that should be addressed?

For sure. For sure. Like, how do you fix those? You need funding. You need funding, right? Like, I have a school that's underperforming. Kids are not graduating from high school. Do you know what we should do?

We should take money from the school and we should give them fewer teachers. Now, let's see if that's going to help. No, that's not going to help. You have to give them more teachers. And let's see if that's going to help. No, that's not going to help, right? You have to give them more teachers. You have to give them more funding. You have to give them more access to information. And then maybe that school starts performing a little better.

A police department is no, they're just humans, right? They're imperfect. They need training. They need funding. They need support right now. They need morale and they need people.

And they need to get rid of the people that suck yeah they need those things too and one of the best ways to do that is through training you weed people out you find out who can't cut it that's what that's what it's supposed to be for yeah the the one of the best things about special operations is that there's so much training and process the refiner's fire the chaffaff in the wind. Like you throw that stuff up and the crap blows away and the good stuff comes back down. Then you take that stuff and you go and carry it into a fire and then you heat it and then you pull it out and you pound it. Then you heat it again, you pound it, then you heat it, you pound it. And what you're left with at the end is

this pretty cool thing. If any of that is with law enforcement, all of those things can only occur through training. And, and like, if you want to test somebody, if you want to check, if you want to find racism, like having them show up to work for eight hours and letting them hop in a car

and run, run out, you're never going to know what's inside of there. The only time that you get access, that you get peaks of that is at these stressful, emotionally drained moments. Yes. And the only time that you can create those is through training.

I've been arguing that we should have that for all of our leaders. Like when we were talking about the mayor of California or the mayor of Los Angeles and the governor of California and the people that are deciding you can't trick or treat this year. This is the new thing. The one fucking holiday where you have to wear a mask. You're supposed to wear a mask. And for whatever reason, they've decided they're going to save people

by stopping little kids, the ones who have the least problem with this disease, from trick-or-treating. It's fucking asinine. It's so dumb. And I think part of it is because the people that are in that position, the people that are in the position of control, they don't have to be tested. They don't have to show their character.

They just have to win a popularity contest that no one wants to enter. No one wants to be the fucking mayor of LA. Who's entering? No one wants to be the governor of California. How many people? Self-serving people are entering. Mayor Adler here in Austin. Yeah, same shit.

Yeah, just get out of here. Is there a public servant that wants to step up? I want Eminem to sing that song. Will the real public servant step up? There's nobody. They get so scrutinized, and it's such a ruthless business that the only people that you get left are these wishy-washy, milky people. I do wish that political parties were afraid of the people again.

Yeah. That created a really healthy balance where they understand that they represent their constituents and their job is to do what their people want. Once they get into this certain level of political power, they kind of just do whatever they want.

And they forget that they're supposed to be representing the people. I've never seen California so charged right now against California. Like people are mad. You know, the protests in Long Beach, in San Diego, in Mar-a-Lago. Like it's crazy the number of people

that are coming out and being like, I'm not okay with what's happening right now. And they shouldn't be. It's insane. Well, they've given dorks the ability to tell people they can't work. That's what it is. And that's Governor Newsom and Mayor Garcetti. Those guys are dorks.

And they're in control of whether or not people can take risks and work. How can somebody tell you not to work? It's not scientific. It's not politically correct. Even if it were scientific, how can you tell me not to work. It's not scientific. It's not politically correct. Even if it were scientific. Yeah. How can you tell me not to work? Right. But you can't. Well, the idea is that you're putting other people at risk by working.

Because if you get infected, other people are going to get infected too. This is the idea behind it. But it's a super flawed idea. I'll volunteer to inject my neck with a hypodermic needle full of COVID compared to my children starving to death because I don't work. And some like the salon owners are like, if I don't open up, I'm already four months behind on my mortgage or my rent. To include this building, I'm going to be homeless as are my kids. And you're going to be dealing with that next month if I don't open

right now. So people are just leaving the state. They're like, well, I'm going to be dealing with that next month if I don't open right now. So people are just leaving the state. They're like, well, I'm going to go somewhere where I have freedom. And that's why so many people are coming here to Texas. Yeah, well, they better remember why they left. Exactly. That's important. I wanted to talk to you about that. I want to have Texas politicians on too.

Try to explain what the checks and balances are in this state that have kept it from being fucked up and given it the freedom that it enjoys right now. And one of the reasons why people are coming here in the first place. In droves. Yeah, in droves. I mean, from New York and California, I argue if you walk downtown Austin,

if you walked even up north, like Lamar, Palmer, and you're just like, hey, where are you from? Four out of five people are going to be from California and New York. And you're not from Texas? To to include myself and you you know and you like all of you from originally california central california how did you get out here um after

9-11 happened i enlisted and you know georg, Fort Bragg deployments, Georgia, Fort Bragg deployments, that cycle. Um, when I was fighting, I, uh, I like Texas and I could kind of live anywhere if I was going to go to New Mexico and do my training camps. Um, my wife is from the South. So she wanted to live in the South. She's from Louisiana. She was a government contractor, so she took a government contracting job here. And we knew we were going to be in Texas. We didn't know where, and Austin felt like California. So that's really how we ended up here. They have a huge, outside of Fort Bragg, North Carolina,

this has the largest group of special operations in the entire country. Really? Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. How'd that happen? Um, I, Texas has the ideals that we kind of stand for. I actually have a present for you from the Texas special operations community. They're like, wait a second. So, um, they, uh, when I say they come here in droves, we, we have hundreds of green berets in the state of Texas in from their border patrol workers that are still serving as green berets, their police officers, firefighters, uh, work for FBI, but they live in Texas. So they can be Texans that are Green Berets that then have their other shenanigan awesome jobs.

It's huge. Wow. Yeah, you're surrounded by them. I didn't know. Well, they figured out it's awesome here. It is awesome. It's very unusual. I almost feel uncomfortable talking about how great it is here.

Yeah, I'm going to make you uncomfortable in a little bit when I give you a present. Okay, give it to me now. All right, so we can do this in Texas oh it's a gun well these are cigars I know they're important it just says from the special operations forces

deoppress the liber and range to lead the way it's our motto liberators of the oppressed damn that smells good alright one of these is yours and one of these is yours. Oh, Jamie. I have to see which ones. All right. So this one's yours. There's a pocket constitution. So anytime you're like, man, what are we supposed to do in this instance? You can just... Pocket constitution. I love it. Yeah. You just reference real fast. Damn, this smells great. You know,

we're talking about the first amendment. Congress shall make no law respecting any establishment or religion prohibiting the free exercise thereof of bridging the freedom of speech, the press, the right of people to peacefully assemble. Petition of the government for redress of grievances. So this has all of them in here. So this gun I took, it has been shot

so I zeroed it for you. Beautiful. Got you a holster too. Welcome to Texas. They bring for you. Beautiful. Got you a holster too. Welcome to Texas. They bring you guns. Yeah. How about that? It's got a Leupold Delta Point red dot on there. I love Leupold.

So this is like ready to... Ready to go. Ready to go. It's zeroed. It's FN 509 compact. Holla. Holla. Jamie, you got a gun now excited

so that is no longer my gun that is your gun thank you very much Jamie have you ever shot a gun I've shot your gun Jamie can you come over here I haven't shot it you've shot rifles right that cannon I didn't know

what kind of shooter you were so this adjusts to I can put this on anything in like your bag or a fanny pack. If not, I'll get you a concealed carry holster like that. I love this holster. Thanks. It's pretty. Handmade. So this is an FN 503, single stack, 9mm.

So this is like what you could carry here around Austin. But this is... Very nice compact gun. A lot of people right now uncomfortable. They've got guns! Are you uncomfortable? Nope. This is your first gun?

Come here. Give me a hug. Give him a hug. Come here. There we go. Listen. Boom! Welcome to Texas. I got my first gun from You can say I got my first gun From Tim motherfucking Kennedy

Yeah How about that And you never forget That that was because You came to Texas We're gonna go to the range With Tim and Alex Jones How about that

Ooh There's a Texas only I think it's a Halloween thing You can shoot zombies You can get in a group And shoot zombies Not with real guns obviously

But like some zombie Kill it Like real People probably dressed up Like zombies that'll take paintball hits really yeah and somebody said it to be like let's go we have like um responsive targets that are built like zombies so you shoot them and like blood comes out and you can and we have um they call them heavy metal zombie competitions so it's like a three gun competition. So you have to shoot 45, 308 and 12 gauge. Um, and you only had shots count. So as you,

it's a zombie Safari. So that's like fun, right? Yeah. I wish I came here years ago. Zombie Safari Dallas is open every Friday and Saturday in October. Well, we're going. Yeah. We'll have to go to that. Weather's cooling off, so we're going to do a lot more helicopter pig hunts.

2,400 rounds kill zombies. Now, when you do the helicopter pig hunts, how do you guys gather up to meet? Do you have someone that drives after the helicopter? It depends on where we're going and what we're doing. Some branches, we are exterminating. So you don't even gather up the meat? No. Oh, wow.

And some of them are disgusting. Yeah, but the meat's still good. No, it's not. Even if they're gross. Really? No. Why? They're like, you get an old male, like maggoty, rancid, gross, tough meat.

I don't want that. You get like a young sow. Yeah. There you go. Those old ones though, seriously, if you put them on a smoker and you do it right and you brine them, they still taste good. Okay.

Why when you have 5 billion pigs in Texas, why would you cook a nasty one or just go get a nice sweet one over there? And there's so many of them. Like if we go next week, I would you cook a nasty one or just go get a nice sweet one over there? And there's so many of them. Like if we go next week, I take you, you would shoot 50 pigs. From a helicopter. From a helicopter. Why would you pick a gross one?

I see what you're saying, but it just seems like you don't want to waste the meat though. I mean, there are people that would like that. We'll talk about, no no um food wise if we're going to compare food meat to so on a on a farm 25 of your crop is destroyed by feral pigs yes every year it's a real problem here if you're if you're if you had a million dollars you're automatically off the top 250000 if your crop is gone to feral pigs. So you as a rancher, you're like seeing a heavy handed hairy ogre like me. They're like, wait, you'll come and kill pigs on my property and I don't have to do anything? They'll welcome you. How many times have you done this?

I don't know. A thousand? I don't know. I have no idea. A thousand? I don't know. I have no idea. A thousand times from helicopters. Yeah. Oh, what a great place to be. Yeah.

It's different shooting, though, because instead of a pot. So if something's moving fast, like a vehicle, if I was going to be engaging something moving, let's say, from the right to the left. You lead it. Yeah, you have to lead it. Well, when you're in a helicopter, you actually to give a what a negative lead so you're going to shoot behind it you're going too fast yeah so whatever speed if you're going let's say 80 knots you're going to have to be behind it about about the tail and the speed of that helicopter is going to make up the difference to give you a middle impact oh interesting how fast is the helicopter

going when you're shooting um depends on the pilot. And sometimes that's you as a shooter. You're just kind of having to judge how fast you're going. And Shane, who we'll fly with, he's a great pilot. And so he'll camp the helicopter at like a 45-degree angle and open up the shooter door towards. So we're only probably going like 30 knots. What's a knot in miles an hour? Like one and a half.

Why do they use knots? I don't know. It's naval and aviation use it. Just to confuse people. Yeah. Yeah. But at that speed, you can aim, point to aim, point to impact and just rack them up. Yeah.

Wow. Have you shot an FN 509 before? No. They're really good. Yeah? Yeah. Strike or fire. You shoot G up. Yeah. Wow. Have you shot an FN 509 before? No. They're really good. Yeah? Yeah. Strike or fire. You shoot Glock?

Yeah. It's a real similar trigger, a little bit more combat-feely. That's the compact, so you can, I don't know, do you carry yet? I don't have a concealed carry. We're going to fix that. Okay. Like, super fast. All right, excellent.

Good to hear. Yeah. You can't be here. I gave you concealed holes. It's an open carry state right open carry stone please don't do that yeah it's like very uh antagonistic almost yeah uh but like that's um while i believe you have the right to do that it's also one of those things that's like it's also dumb to do it from a tactical perspective right why would you be sitting

here with the thing that you want right to protect you exposed to the whole entire world and telegraphing like if i walk into a room that's like the first guy i'm like one you're probably useless two is um i'm concerned about you not as an asset but rather as a threat right like there's um i don't there's not if you went out to any any of the guys out here or any of my friends and you're like, do you open carry?

They're like, no, that's dumb. I'm not going to do that. Well, that's that thing that, like I was getting into about the protests when people were showing up at these Black Lives Matter protests with AKs around their neck.

Yeah. What are you doing? Do you know how many times they have accidentally discharged their weapon into the crowd? Oh, I'm sure. It's happened like a dozen times. I'm sure.

It's heartbreaking because I respect that they're trying to, I fully believe in protesting, love peaceful protests. I even like that kind of bravado of open carry in that sense where they're like really, I think a freedom not exercised is a freedom that's going to atrophy and die one of the reasons why i love comedy is because um you are pushing the limit of what people are comfortable with especially with the first amendment so you're kind of torn on open carry in that sense i think it's super dumb but i like people exercising their freedoms interesting yeah i see what you're saying though. The right person, like I, one, I would never be at a protest of,

while I support it, I would, it's dangerous to be there right now. So I wouldn't, the cost versus gain of what happens at those peaceful protests. And then the thought of even open carrying is is idiotic i agree with that i feel like showing up at one of those protests with a gun like unless they're coming to you and trying to take your house or break down your door

why do you have why are you walking around with a gun just no you're supposed if it's supposed to be a peaceful protest and the idea is like what if someone comes to try to disrupt that peaceful protest? You're inviting them almost with that gun. Yeah. I mean, we had a poor kid killed here in Austin. He had an AK, and a poor Uber driver got in the middle of a protest, and he's like, holy crap. When he dropped, he had a drop- drop off and he went to go do another pickup and Uber like automatically routes the way to go. So he's following his little Uber route

and he turns and he's like, Oh man, I'm in the middle of a protest. He's a soldier from Fort Hood right here. And, uh, he's concealed carrying in, in, in his Uber vehicle. And, um, he gets stuck in the protest and the protesters just swarm his car. And this kid that died, he's actually a really neat kid because his girlfriend was black. He's there to support her. She had a bunch of physical impairments. She was in a wheelchair. Yeah. So he's like a neat kid.

You're like, not smart. He's open carrying at a protest you know and he was saying kind of some inflammatory things beforehand but like i think his point and his purpose was really good and pure and like trying to do the right thing right um but then he runs up to the side of a car and points a gun at an uber driver that is scared and confused and he gets shot yeah like that's the recipe for disaster i saw so many different versions of that story too where people had twisted the facts people had said he was unarmed people the guy who got shot people were saying that the guy who did it was a white supremacist who drove into the protest on

purpose there was so many the video was edited where it looked like the guy was making a right hand turn and he like sped up because he was trying to get around a person and they cut right there because it looks like the guy's speeding up to go into the crowd but super when you watch the whole video it's really obvious what that poor kid was trying to do with the driver um i saw a fascinating um this phd on communication broke down from the initial release of the information of the story how immediately started being- Distorted. Yeah, for two different sides.

Like I'm gonna leave out this detail, I'm gonna include this detail. And by the time you got the game telephone, we were like, hey, here's this catchphrase. And by the time it gets all the way around the room, it doesn't sound like any semblance of what it did when it started. When you got to the final version,

I'm super enraged at one version and i'm super enraged at another version but neither of them are true and like that that's what every single issue is happening from defunding the police to black lives matter to antifa it's like can we just be reasonable and talk about what's really happening? And we have some real good examples of what the worst case scenarios are in this country right now. And one of them is Portland. Yeah. Like Portland is one of the best case scenarios of completely unreasonable, ridiculous shit that's going on every single day. 101 days of protest. That fucking mayor up there is the most progressive mayor in the country. And they're like, fuck you, resign. Defund the police.

We're going to burn your house down. He had to move out because they're going to burn his place down. Well, they tried to burn down his lobby. They were throwing fiery things into his lobby. They were lighting fires in front of the street in front of his house, having dance parties in front of his apartment building. So I was just coming back from Africa on an SFA mission,FA security forces assistance. And I'm over there doing a counterinsurgency mission and I'm coming back and I'm seeing the same types of organization structure and it's an insurgency is a charged idea that, you know, an insurgency as the DOD defines it is an organized group trying to delegitimize or overthrow a constitutional government like that's how the dod defines it and i think if you went to almost anyone in portland like what are you trying to do

right now like that's what they're trying to do yeah right like that's what they believe they're open about it yeah which is all right and that creates a really hard um how do you combat that because you have to combat the grievances and the ideas. You have to, and as dangerous as it is, those ideas are like a cancer because when the truth and information is being adjusted, just like we talked about with the shooting here in Austin, where you have two different versions and some people are in the echo chamber of only hearing one side of it, it just keeps radicalizing more and more and catching more momentum and then the reason that they're there is is so convoluted with you know if you're are you there for black

lives matter are you there um you know to to fight systemic racism are you here to like what are you protesting about like i think you'd get a lot of different answers. Yeah. That's dangerous. Like, now you're just there to do damage.

Like, you're not really trying to do anything that's good. What's also exciting, this is the other thing about it, when you're allowed to throw fire into the lobby

of the apartment building where the mayor lives, and no one stops you and you're out in front and people are playing music and dancing and everyone's going black lives matter there's excitement to that right something's happening and then when you're talking about people that are out of work the economy's fucked no one knows what to do everyone's scared covid's killing a certain percentage of people you're you can't do anything about it. There's no vaccines.

There's all this tension in the air. And then you have this movement. And then this is the most exciting thing that's happening. And then for people that don't have jobs and can't go anywhere, what the fuck do you want them to do? They're going to get sucked up into that, especially if it aligns with their political ideologies, if they're a left-leaning

person and they're like look we have a real chance for a real revolution here and this is but what what they don't understand what i was talking about seattle you're doing the same thing that you would hate for people to do you're taking over businesses with force you're you're occupying land that you don't deserve you're stealing buildings you're literally occupying buildings that other people built and then once you get there you're establishing boundaries you're putting up barriers you have a police force that will attack and brutally beat people up for just filming what they perceive as injustices or what they're going to put on the internet and then people get shot and you're calling the fucking cops.

You call the police and ambulances when people get shot there. Do you know how goddamn crazy this is? It's so poorly thought out across the board. And if you do that, if you take over an area, what's to stop people from doing that to you? You've already set a precedent. You've already said we could do this with force. We're going to move in with no law behind us,

with no court ruling, with no reasonable discourse. We're going to move in with force and we're going to take over an area with numbers and threats. And then what's going to stop someone from doing that to you? Nothing, you fuck.

You've already set a precedent. You've already said this is how it's done. And then it's just chaos and anarchy. It just gets worse. Exactly. And the more violent and larger group will win so from a the the the mission of counterinsurgency like how do you fight those ideas is stability and security right if we want um to see positive change and and you know kind of destitute poverty stricken areas of the country

um urban areas where like really you want to talk about systemic racism you start looking at like detroit and baltimore and chicago um how do you fix that it's not fewer police officers it's more police officers the way that you fix it is providing providing stability and security in an area so that then businesses can flourish capitalism arrives more job opportunities opportunities, more wealth, more education, more, like immediately in 10 years, you'll see the transformation of a block when a good business comes in and good things start happening. That business can't go there if it's dangerous, if it's writing and it's looting. So if you look at every one of the cities that had serious riots in, you know, from like Rodney King, how bad those areas still are, it takes like 5060 years if they ever bounce back to come back from that.

rioting you are absolutely condemning yourself to more poverty and then you go and defund the police and you remove the one thing that's going to provide stability and security out in that area that will bring in commerce that will bring in business and jobs like you're screwing yourself it's just so hard for people to see that because it's a long game yeah and in the short term they want justice and they're like no justice no And they just want to light shit on fire. And I understand that they're angry and I understand that sentiment. But no one's explaining that this is how this plays out. You're literally going to fuck that area. Yeah.

For a long time. Yeah. Yeah, it takes a long and a lot of money is going to have to be spent in order to bring it back. So the money is a hard thing. Insurgencies are really cheap you know if um if i wanted to ruin something you know it doesn't take a lot of effort for me to destroy it for me to build and protect something that takes a lot of manpower and manpower and hours um insurgencies are also way more successful than a conventional type war. Even if it's just war of ideas, not that we're in a civil war, thank God we don't have like geographic lines that

these radical groups could align themselves with, because then we'd be in a different problem. It takes not just manpower funding. You know, if, like if you're going to flood say Baltimore with police officers, that's a lot of money and it would take a long time for a business to feel like it's safe and secure for them to go in there and start affecting positive change, opening more stores, more jobs, more jobs, more wealth, more wealth, more education, more education, better schools. more jobs, more wealth, more wealth, more education, more education, better schools. And then boom, we have a flourishing community where people can prosper. But it takes, you know, one idiot with a Molotov cocktail to bring that all crumbling down again.

Yeah. And you start from scratch or below scratch. Yeah. Yeah. And that's where we are. Yep. I mean, this is a trying time for us in the weirdest of ways, because I don't think anybody anticipated everything going this far south so quickly. It's not done. Oh, this is yours. Oh, my constitution. Back up, fuckers. Yeah. I got the papers.

Just how it is. Not for interpretation. It's just as it is. Just read the words. Just amazing that these guys saw human nature and how it could be fucked up and how they could ruin everything so far in advance. Do you smoke cigars? I don't.

You don't at all? No, I'm a pretty straight edge-ish person. Don't drink at all? I'll have like a glass of wine every other night. It's good for your blood. It's good for your heart. Allegedly. That's what they say. Yeah. It's good for your blood. It's good for your heart. Allegedly. That's what they say.

Yeah. That's the extent of it. Yeah, but you know those are like epidemiology studies. Yeah. It's like how many people have a glass of wine

every other night and how are they doing and look at them. It's not like they've proven a glass of wine does X or Y. It also tastes really good

with elk. It tastes good. Yeah. I like it with steak. Yeah. I'm a big fan of red meat and red wine. Yeah. It's a good combination. Yeah. I'm a big fan of red meat and red wine. Yeah.

It's a good combination. But that's the... I have a big, pretty liquor cabinet of nothing that I ever drink that people just give me. So when people come over, I'm like, yeah, you can... No mushrooms, no psychedelics. No, I've never done anything ever. What? Nope.

That might be part of your problem. I have lots of problems. There's no doubt that that is on the long dignified list. Have you thought about it? Thought about diving into any of those? Man, I have teenage daughters. One's a freshman in college. One's a senior in high school.

And if I ever thought about it, and then I have an 11-month-old and a five-year-old. Dude, you do a lot of fucking. Yeah. All of them will be through school before I ever thought about it i get it my dad was a narcotics officer oh that's what it is and uh which was funny because i had like intentionally just to make him mad i had friends that were drug dealers but i would never i would never use but i would be around it all the time. That's interesting. How'd you avoid it?

Being an athlete, being a martial artist, being a fighter, I was more into being able to beat somebody up than not. What was your first martial art that you got into? Karate. What kind? Shotokan. Oh. And then I went to Japanese jiu-jitsu after that

and taikara yakiya jiu-jitsu and i did that for a while and then i ended up at the pit hawaiian kempo with john hackleman and chuck and then louisa bispo yep yeah aurora grandia and san luis bispo yeah and then uh that's that uh my it was actually jake shields that brought me to the pit. Really? Yeah. He showed up. So I was like the big guy at the gym and grappling, right?

I wrestled. And so I could go in and kind of smash a lot of the people. And then this kind of awkward, weird white kid comes in and just like map, like mops the floor with my soul. And I was like, who are you? Where where did you come from and what did you do like what what is this he's like well it's it's like catch wrestling you know which is kind of like jujitsu and and wrestling kind of put together you know and and um but you know then we fight and i think i was 16 at this 15 15 16 at this time he's like and we in san luispo, there's these other guys that do it, this Gan McGee and Scott Adams and Chuck Liddell

and Antonio Banuelis, Cruz Gomez. And I was like, cool, I want to go there. So I went there and got my brains bashed in for forever. Yeah, Hapelman's an interesting character himself. He is. He's quite a character. Yeah, he's a great coach though um especially back then um he invested a lot and he was old school and i and guys like chuck and myself and we needed old school uh like now that coaches can't

do or say the things that john would say back then um and uh and i i love john now but you know he was not a kind coach well he's still training glover right yeah he's got glow and then alex perera is with them now as well which i thought was very interesting yeah court mcgee is still in and out oh is he yeah courts had some injuries right yeah yeah yeah i think his whole career has kind of been like that yeah that was a guy that was always on my radar like I thought I might fight

because when I went to Jackson's you know his clear break separation and then he's and he's in the pit in Utah right yeah

yeah but yeah he's that guy's gotta stay healthy he's a he's one of those guys that almost died

and came back because of drugs and there's a few of those guys that are almost unbreakable. They almost die and come back, and then they become these insanely disciplined people. And he's one of those. Is that good, though, to almost die from drugs? No, I don't think it's good. I think whatever led him to drugs, he probably could have squashed those demons with training.

But the problem with... There's many obsessions and addictions that come from almost the same energy that could be applied to something that makes you incredibly successful. It's these, where your brain is fixated, whether it's on gambling or whatever it is whatever these addictions are they could ruin your life or you could decide you're going to be the baddest motherfucker that ever lived and it's the same kind of addictions you know i've talked to tyson about this i've talked to a bunch of fighters about this that have these addictive tendencies but those tendencies are also obsessive tendencies, which can be applied to something that is ultimately positive,

like training. That's what I do. Yeah. I have a huge, I've never had any addiction, um, to negative stuff. But I think if you looked at my life from how I train,

how I shoot, how I work, how I run my companies, you're like this, this guy's a psychopath with the, the, the disciplined regiment of, of literal pain and suffering that I intentionally put my body through. Um, and that's to stay productive. And so it's all constructive. Yeah. Um, like I always joke that if I didn't do martial arts and fight and go to the military where all of those things were encouraged, like, yeah, we want you to fight.

We want you to kind of be a violent badass. I would be in prison for sure. There's a lot of people like that out there. Yeah. A lot of people. A lot of people that are in prison that I, to this day, feel like we could have got them when they were young and said hey listen listen this is the path you're on yeah but this is this is a way better path you can get on it's fucking exciting yeah and it's gonna feel good yeah yeah i mean it's painful it's hard so rewarding that so rewarding trying to talk convince somebody like to to buy into this way of life. Um, you know, and, and I, I think like, you know,

hard work, uh, the, all the things that you want on the far side of hard work and, and getting somebody to believe that where they have to make all these kinds of small decisions where am I waking up early? Am I not going to be drinking? Am I not going to be doing drugs? Am I going to be training? Am I going to all of these tiny little decisions start adding up and like the Titanic, slowly turning the boat, you know, but had they started turning the boat earlier, they wouldn't have struck an iceberg, and they all wouldn't have died, right? But so you have to start making all these incremental adjustments. And like, imagine what the Titanic would have been had it not struck the iceberg, like a connection between two worlds, you know, the poverty being able to move to a new world and the rich elite

being commingling. And like, who knows what the world would have been like had that boat not sunk. And it would have only taken these small early adjustments to see the whole entire change of its course. But the belief, right, you're at the helm and you're telling me to to start moving to moving the the boat and i'm like i don't i don't want to like i don't need to all the excuses are there but it is so rewarding to be on the far side of all that it's just people need to they need to know about these procrastination demons that haunt your mind and they will rob you of all possible success of everything they'll steal everything from you yeah and like when people come to our our courses um the the biggest thing that we're trying to

impart that like i'm not going to in in two and a half days i'm not going to turn somebody into a great fighter i'm not going to turn somebody into a great shooter in two and a half days but what they're going to turn somebody into a great fighter. I'm not going to turn somebody into a great shooter in two and a half days. But what they're going to learn is they're going to learn their assets and their liabilities. And they're going to learn about themselves about what do they need to do that we're going to put them on a course, a direction, a path, all the things they need to do to positively change their life. And it becomes this, change their life. And it becomes this, this, I'll use addictive, like this all consuming passion to want to know that your family safe to not live in fear to know that you're healthy. Like I have less body fat. I'm feeling kind of like a badass. I like want to flirt with my wife a little bit more. Now I'm having more sex. Now my energy's going up. Now I'm sleeping better.

And the next day is even better. So I can train a little bit more. I can work a little bit more. I can shoot a little bit more. And then like the next day I'm even better. And they're like just 1% incremental changes. Now two months removed. You're like, who is this person? You just lost 20 pounds of fat. Like you've got calluses on your hands. You don't have that fat baby chub on your face anymore. And more importantly, I see life in your eyes where you showed up two months ago and there's like this ghost skeleton of a human. Now I see a person. It's rad. And I get to see this transformation of people. It's one of my favorite things about what I do. Yeah. It's so hard for people that don't do it to understand that if you do push your body, it gets stronger and you grow and then you literally feel better. I tried to explain it

to a friend of mine. I said, imagine if you have a race car and the race car is 400 horsepower and a certain width tire and a certain kind of suspension, but literally you can make it have more horsepower and handle better. And all you have to do is work. You just have to push it and the tires will widen and the suspension will toughen and it'll be more more pliable around corners the the engine will get stronger the exhaust will sound better it'll be more rewarding to drive you can do this yeah you can do with your body like your body literally is like a race car yes and your mind your mind goes along with it which is another thing that bums me out we're really smart people don't want to work out because they think it's like, they think it's for meatheads or they think it's a stupid egotistical pursuit.

I'm like, no, you literally are all connected. Your brain and your body are one. Total human condition. Yes. Just because you, look, if you're an awesome pianist, right, and you're really good at playing the piano, you have to understand that that's not just your fingers, right? That's your mind. Your mind is also making you play the piano. You have to understand that that's not just your fingers, right? That's your mind. Your mind is also making you play the piano.

Well, guess what? If you were in better cardiovascular shape, you probably could do that even better because then the whole system would work better. Everything would work better. And this is the same with everything you do. CNS is firing. Yes, everything. Everything is going quicker.

And guys like Rachmaninoff, big, huge, powerful hands that could play these big, huge chords. Like his body conditioned to be able to do those things. It wasn't like immediately he had this one and a half octave reach, right? He learned and his hands literally grew to be able to play chords that if you and I go and play them right now, we have Carpal's Tunnel in six months. You know, like his body adapted, evolved to be able to play like just dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun

like that's so freaking cool I love humans I love humans too my friend Cam Hainsey does a bunch of ultra marathons no stop it I hate that guy

I love that guy he's an awesome dude and he started out like it's funny when I talked to him like when I started running I was like I better run a mile

and that's so someone was saying like how the fuck does someone run 240 miles i go well you start by running a mile yeah how do you start eating an elephant yeah you start and you just you keep and then next thing you know you can run three miles and you can do it at a comfortable pace and then six months later you can run six miles at a comfortable pace and then six months after that you can run a marathon at a comfortable pace and then six months after that you can run an ultra marathon you've got a you said six months though like people want immediate early gratification right like how can I just hit a button or I just watch an app or pull up a YouTube video and teach me how to do that because it takes work

yeah that's the thing yeah it's a. So how do you convince somebody to do it? Because this idea, this constitutional republic that we're in, it was possible because the individuals were strong, self-sufficient, and they believed in individual responsibility, right? And they had fucking balls to come to another continent. Yeah, big, huge, powerful. I mean, I'm'm gonna fight a bear like start a republic start a whole new thing yeah that's not possible no without that individual

being a freaking stud yeah right and not this fat flagell, gelatin human sitting on the couch playing video games. And none of these ideas are possible if we continue down the soft trajectory of wanting instant gratification and believing that we're entitled to anything. We have to believe that you got to be a badass for this to work. There's so many people that are conditioned to instant gratification. And there's so many people that just want to take a pill. That's another problem with today. You feel bad?

Do you feel bad? Well, you need to take a pill. Or go run four miles and do what your brain does. The same freaking thing that your pill just made you do, but it happened naturally. And you'll be healthier. And you're going to produce more of it tomorrow. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, like, I don't know a lot of really depressed, frustrated, sad, healthy, smart people. Who exercise a lot. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's not. I mean, I'm sure there's some, I'm sure there are absolutely some mental imbalances, just like some people have liver disease, right? And they don't even drink. Some people, they get cancer and they didn't do anything wrong because the body fucks up sometimes. That also happens with your brain. It happens with hormones. It happens with your brain's ability to produce dopamine and serotonin. Sometimes it just doesn't work right.

And that is a real thing. But more often than not, that's not what's going on. Nope, just go do the work. Just go do the work. Yeah, it feels so good. And everything, like, how much do you love eating your elk? I love it. Not only does it taste fantastic, right?

Not only do you look at it and remember. Every time I'm cooking, whether, like, I had lasagna the other night. I took some, and the elk made Italian sausage, a little bit of pork fat, a bunch of Italian oregano and thyme that were mixed into the meat. fat a bunch of italian um you know oregano and thyme that were mixed into the meat uh so i made a lasagna with ground backstrap and italian sausage two nights ago but the like as i'm cooking and i'm remembering walking up this mountain and seeing it two ridges away and be like okay where's the wind coming from how am i am i gonna button hook around this thing so that I can stay upwind of it and catch it in this next ravine, you know? And like every single moment,

the smells and it's all coming back to you. And then I sit down at the table, I got my family with me and we're going to eat this together. It's amazing. It's like magical. It's hard for people to understand that I've never done it before,

but it is eating something that you have hunted and killed yourself is a different thing. It's a different thing. It really is. though in texas boy what a good place to do it you can fucking do it anywhere here there's so many ranches here it's so much like there's not a public land so it's gonna be a little bit different only two percent yeah which is the whole state which is kind of bonkers yeah but i mean is the government really supposed to be owning our land? Whoa, you just got all Texas on me. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not opposed to owning property. And you can pay to hunt all these places. And most of these places are, a lot of them, I should say, are commercial hunting ranches. And they're not unreasonable. And you can go and for a small amount of money, when you think about the amount of animal that you get, I mean, if you... Hundreds of pounds. Yeah, and especially pigs.

Like you get some wild... First of all, wild pigs, you've eaten wild pigs. Yeah. I fucking love them. I think they're goddamn delicious. I love them. You got to get the right one. You got to cut the right way.

Well, I've got lucky. And the ones that I've hunted have been at Tohon Ranch in California and they eat a lot of acorns. Oh, wow. And they were real thick with fat. Oh, my God. They're so good. I shot one with John Dudley, and we brined it and slow cooked it on the Traeger.

It was incredible. I love the Traeger. Oh, love it. So easy to cook. So easy. That's the thing. Yeah. I had this walk-in.

I mean, it's half the size of the studio, this walk-in i mean just half the size of the studio this walk-in smoker and it had the eating heating element and um the smoke element and had it kind of like insulated it was um like i could hang an entire rack of elk ribs in there but i had to sit there 24 7 for however long i was gonna sit there and smoke this. And I just adjusting smoke levels and heat levels. And then it's like, oh, now I can just put this thing in my, and walk inside with my phone. It's going to text me, hey, add, add some more stuff in here. Yeah.

I need more smoke. And you're like, oh my God, this is too easy. Even better. I love when you do a recipe through the app, the app actually navigates the cooking cycle and changes temperature for you. But then at the end of the day, it's really just fire and wood. That's the beautiful thing. There's no chemicals.

There's no gas. It's just fire and wood. So it tastes like you cooked it over an open fire. So good. It's fucking awesome. And wild game that way is the best. It's the best. I mean, there's a reason why so many hunters buy Traeger's. Pellet grills any pellet grill if you don't have a trager pellet grills are the shit

they're so good like i love how easy it makes life you know like my uh my outdoor kitchens next to the pool so i go throw that stuff in there and i'm like in the pool with the kids yep mine too and it's just yeah i'm not sitting over there wasting my whole entire day, and my kids are pissed. I'm like, you better appreciate this brisket because I spent 14 hours on it. That never happens. I put it in there, and I forgot about it. I appreciate old school.

Like when I watch the videos of Franklin's, Franklin's Barbecue in Austin, that dude, he uses old school offset smokers with wood and throws the wood in with the logs, and obviously the result is fucking insanely delicious. I appreciate it, but I don't have time for that, bro. That's his full-time job.

Aaron Franklin, I got it. That's amazing. You keep doing that thing. I'll drive in and buy it when I need it, but I don't have the time to do that. And I love looking at my app. Oh, the meat's at 120 degrees. Get ready to pull it.

It's getting close. It sends you a little notification. Yeah, no, I love it. I love it. And I can't get enough wild game. I need to bring more out here. I didn't bring enough out here. I have it in commercial freezers,

some of it back home. So I literally might take a trip back home just to fill up some coolers and bring meat back. That's crazy. Shipping it with dry ice. Well, all you have to do is put it in a yeti yeah if it's frozen it'll you could send it regular ground mail for five days it'll get there fucking frozen that's it's crazy how well those things keep temperature i i put on um either end a little cardboard vertical separator from the meat, and then I pack dry ice in there.

And I just leave like an inch along the top if I'm shipping stuff. And then it just keeps it super frozen. For how long? How long will it last? The dry ice evaporates at the same weather regardless of temperature. So inside there, that'll last four, five days. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

It could be done. You could ship it. What are you guys doing tomorrow, 9-11? Well, the reason why I had you on here today is because this podcast is going to be released on 9-11. I think there's no more appropriate person to have on 9-11 than you. We have a podcast tomorrow that we're doing, a Skype one, with a fellow from the UK.

There are way more appropriate people than me um like any firefighter that was there ground zero have you been to ground zero no man you gotta go every american i think new york city is off my list for life now that's that's a good point um but being there and seeing kidding by the way if you live in new york relax i'm coming back um oh they do a ton of comedy there yeah they're still the way if you live in new york relax i'm coming back um they do a ton of comedy there yeah they're still doing comedy there you have to do it outside though in a fucking tent yeah but don't people come by with microphones and scream at you yeah that's comedy too man i'd uh john hackleman and i talked this week um he called me he's like

what would you do if you're at a restaurant and you know you're essentially ambushed by people screaming at you trying you know telling you to raise your to raise your fist um and like you know why not not be there because i'd before i go places i'm making sure that it's safer to go there you know i'm not going to be sitting at a restaurant where a protest is going to be walking through. And I know they're targeting ones specifically to try to catch people and get the, I got you moment. Two is like, you know, situational awareness.

It's not, I'm sitting here and I see some people congregating across the street. I'm going to wait and see what happens. Now there's a lot of people. I see cameras, I see megaphones. I'm going to still sit here and wait and see what happens. I got to see like five, six people wearing black hoodies masks you know with little red fists painted on their shoulders i'm like dinner's done we're out of here and we pack up and go

um yes new york crazy crazy place but that that memorial is i don't know what it is about that place like you can feel i don't souls like you can feel the pain there i think that's real i think you can my dad went to gettysburg and uh my stepfather and he was there and he said i've never believed that there's a place where you could feel sadness he goes but you just feel the people that died there yeah feel it i mean palatable describable heaviness yeah and this is not like i'm not like i'm not a guy that you know like there's crystals no yeah but like you can feel it and you know never forget right how quickly we forgot um well they were trying to cancel the fucking, putting up the lights. Yeah. Yeah, like, why? Why would you do that?

Have you seen the Falling Man documentary? No. So, there's a photograph called The Falling Man. That it is, you can just Google Falling Man, and you see this guy, and this, anytime I need to know the reason why I'm going all over these places

doing, that's it. Oh, fuck. I can't look at it. Cause it like, I mean, it gets me. Cause like, let's talk about this dude for a second. Um, he's sitting, standing, um, kneeling lane on the floor of a shattered window. And he's looking back inside and he's making the decision whether he's going to burn alive or he's going to jump to his death, him and hundreds others. They're sitting there, Americans looking inside of a building being like, okay, do I burn alive or do I jump to my death? And that, that, that video and that picture is so unnerving because he consciously is making the choice to die the whole entire way down. You can see he's staying in, like, I'm going to face plant into the asphalt and all the way into the ground. He's making that choice

because he didn't want to burn alive. So like every time I'm sucking or suffering or frustrated if i have to go you know do another mission that i'm of course i want to do all these sexy things all over the planet and but sometimes like i don't get to get usually that's the way the military works don't get to pick and um i think about that guy and i think about the 3 000 americans that were standing there and be faced with that choice of am I going to burn alive or am I going to jump to my death? Because insurgents wanting to, you know, radical fundamentals wanted to destroy the idea that we stood for capitalism, American freedom, uh, you know, with $500,000 and box cutters,

these untrained assholes were able to bring down the largest superpower on the planet like that's what asymmetrical warfare is like asymmetrical is is something that's not aligned with everything else and warfare in these um under asymmetrical warfare is kind of the haves not fighting the haves and doing it in ways that nobody's ever done it before it was it was genius and horrible that this small group of untrained guys with box cutters did what's how many trillions of dollars have we spent in this war 17 billion dollars in damage just in that one day 3 000 american lives more lives since pearl harbor you know like we went to war with the Japanese and dropped two atomic bombs for that.

We're so short with what we remember. This current society, this generation, this fast influx of information. I want to never forget that man's face. Do we know who he was? Yeah. They think. forget that man's face and do we know who he was yeah yeah um yeah they think they're like 90 percent um there was another couple that did it as well no there there there was like a few dozen yeah i got the black girl on the right well or maybe she's white and covered in soot but she's literally looking down trying to

get a breath a fresh breath of air before she either suffocates or burns alive and then she jumps like never again we say never forget you again, like, how do we stop that? And that is the constant, unrelenting fight against these fanatic ideas. And it's not just there are countless types of, of revolutionaries and insurgents, like ones that do it for religious reasons, ones to push out foreign powers. Um, ones because of the, the, the, um, who, who to enthuse, like that's just ethnic. Um, but they're all the same kind of formula of, we're not happy about something. So we're going to do something horrific to try and change asymmetrical warfare, to try to change the shape of something. And, uh, that fight

against this, these extreme outliers has to be one that we're committed to all the time. Otherwise that will happen again, right? It might be a train. It might be a bus, you know, it might be a dirty bomb. You know, thank God, Boston, probably the next worst thing that's happened since then, which was a couple of idiots with pressure cookers because we have been so aggressive, not just here, but also abroad, ensuring that this doesn't happen. It's weird right now, you know,

I think the last time I was here, I was telling you how bad it is in special operations and special forces specifically in recruiting. Like we are hurting for people and the right people. And all the people that have been coming in, they came in to fight this war. But now we have kids in basic training that weren't alive when 9-11 happened. I volunteered on 9-11 because of this, but now we have, I don't even know how many, I'm calling them kids. They're heroes. They're selflessly serving their country.

But we're leaving Iraq. We're leaving Afghanistan. I had a deployment next year that looks like it's going to get kanked because Trump is pulling back our forces from these places for us to do other things. And those other things are counterinsurgency. It's foreign internal defense. It's security forces assistance. It's joint combined exercises for training. And like while I want to go put on my body armor and have a beard and go look sexy and go do all these things, those are the important jobs that we have to do in the coming years presence trying to help the Afghani government have a constitutional republic or a government in a way, would have this happened? Maybe not. I don't know, but probably not. Africa, same reason why we still have presence in NATO. It's the same reason that we're present in the Philippines. It's trying to fight these radical ideas so that security and stability provides an area for people to live freely, however they want to. We're not telling anybody how to live, right? Philippines, Africa, Nigeria, Mauritania, Burkina Faso, you guys do your things. Whatever that thing is, we're here to help you do it,

but it's going to be done safely to provide stability and security. So I never want to see that again. Like, do you want to see it in America? I mean, like I'm not going to see my kids, but I want to burn alive. So I'm going to jump.

Fuck you and your extremist ideas. I'm going to find you and we're going to fight you until the day we die. But we have to be vigilant about it. When you hear people talk about defunding the military, when you hear people talk about pulling troops out of other countries

and a non-interventionalist foreign policy, but you know what you know and you know why this stuff has to be done, how do you react to that? It's ignorance. I mean, first it's pity. It's like I feel bad for them. I'll go to a country in West Africa and I'll go back two years later

and I will see the school that I helped build or was providing training for the people that are going to be protecting it. And that school is still functioning. And they've had two years of people graduating from that school. And now I go to what was like this podunk village and people are sitting there reading a book. I'm like, you can read like, yeah, I learned how to read last year. What? This is so cool. You know, like you have fresh water. How did you have fresh water? Like, ah, well, we learned, um, how to read. And then we started reading these books and like, we actually do natural filtration through the soil. And we're also doing this tiered irrigation,

like check out our crops. Holy crap. You have crops here. You didn't have crops here two years ago. Like in, in two years, in two years, I'm seeing this transformation of people. So every single radical group from ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, FARC to Antifa, they go and target the poor and the uneducated. That's who they recruit from. And they, they take these ideas, they plant seeds and they plant seeds through, um, like you're super poor. Your daughter's going to get married. I'm going to come in as the bad guy, as the ISIS member, and I'm going to pay for your daughter's wedding and, um, and the endowment. I'm going to do it all. And now like you're indebted to me and your

wife and her new husband are kind of like appreciative to me, but now I have a hook in you and I can, and it doesn't take a lot of money to pay for a wedding in Somalia. So the, there's the population, there's the poverty, and there's the opportunity for them to plant these seeds of fanatic ridiculousness. And that's what they do. wars iraq and afghanistan we we have created stability there and i don't know well we can never govern afghanistan like they can't be that's just the way that the people are and it's kind of cool and it's kind of uh also frightening because they're so nomadic yeah i mean it's been tribal forever i mean you go back to gang is con you know and like they've been insurgents from Khan to, to the British, to the Russians, to then the British again, to the French, to then the Russians again, then to us. Um, like they've just been doing this thing for as long as they've been in existence.

So, uh, just leave them be right. We can still be there with the government, like hand in hand, just leave them be right. We can still be there with the government, like hand in hand, advise and assist and accompany like how to do things, but we don't physically need to be there fighting wars all the time. Um, and that's kind of what we're doing, right? We're phasing back our physical direct action presence, but it's somebody saying that we need to pull everybody in. We only need to protect our own borders and let's just be present here. It's super naive and it's super ignorant because this is the result of us not being outside of our own borders. The idea of policing the world doesn't sit well with people, though. We don't have to police the idea, the world.

That's not what we're doing. So security forces assistance or joint combined exercise for training or for internal defense, that is, I am not walking around being like, hey, you insurgent, you get back in that building. I'm with, like by, with, and through working with the local government, by their side, with them, with their mission and their intent, through their own purpose and ideas. I understand that. But how do you get that message to people that do think that it's policing the world, that do think that we should mind our own business and take that Ron Paul approach and pull the troops back and take care of our own and not worry about other countries? I mean, I wish I could take people with me to show them.

Have you ever listened to Ron Paul paul talk about these yeah yeah for sure uh i think the the easy answer and i never like easy answers is that this hasn't happened 9-11 hasn't happened again even though they have we know that they have tried 10 20 30 000 times they've tried to do this again in every single way. And whether it's a terrorist training camp where we got them, whether it's the new ISIS leader, whether it's the new Al-Qaeda leader, whether it's the next Iranian secret service

that's funding groups and terrorist organizations all over the planet, we got him. We have been constant and vigilant in finding them and stopping them. And we have to. Otherwise, how has this not happened again? Are there fewer extremists? No.

We have stopped them through our actions. If we did not do anything, this would happen again. How much of an effect does it have in who's president? Oh man, a lot. Like what was the difference between Obama and Trump? I'll just use ammo as an example. Again, not an easy, I'm just trying to draw parallels

that people can wrap their heads around. If I'm going to forecast how much ammo I need for training, I'm going to find out what my mission is. I'm going to set up kind of like the training calendar of all the events that we're going to do. Flat ranges, CQB, long distance sniper stuff, mounted training. And then that forecasts how much ammo I need. And then I go and I ask for that ammo. And I would get like, I'd be allowed to ask for about a third then during Obama of what I was allowed to ask for with Bush or now Trump.

A third. A third. Wow. Yeah. Was there a rationalization for that? It's just like a funding. Like us being able to buy cool drones or new guns or different optics. Like the funding is there or military machine may not be the most efficient thing when it goes down to the individual, like it comes down to me being like, I can have this gun or I can't, I can have this optic or I can't.

I have to use this old rifle that's been shot by 20 soldiers before me or I get a new one. And, and it's, it's, it's black and white. It's like dollars and cents. Like I have $9 under this guy or I have $3 under this guy. So when you left fighting and went back into the military, was one of the reasons you did that because Trump was in office and then there was more funding? Yes. Um, I don't like losing at anything, uh, and going into a fight that you are not prepared to win is a pretty bad idea. Um, and knowing, you know, like I'll use Kelvin, Kelvin Geslam as, as an example, I was supposed to fight Rashad Evans at New Year's Eve, or at Madison Square Gardens in November, and fight fell through, medical things. And I mean, by the time I get

to the Kelvin Gasolom, I've cut weight two different times now, my ballooned up to 220, back down to 185, 220. Now I'm cutting weight back to 185 again. And now a five month fight camp. I'm like walking out to the octagon tired. Like I just warmed up in the back with Brandon and Greg. And I'm like, that's a really trained. Yeah. But it's a bad feeling to walk into a fight,

not in a position to fight. And we're when, when Trump was elected, we were 100% still at war. ISIS was thriving, right? All the places I went and fought in Afghanistan, were now controlled by ISIS. Like do you know bad that sucks to look at all the places where I remember friends getting hurt or you know, like Jocko, the places that he went, but those were occupied by ISIS physically occupied, and he lost countless friends, Fallujah, Ramadi City all of those places all in the Syrian border controlled

by ISIS land that we controlled and fought and then lost and then thinking about like I have to go back in here and do this again but I have the third a third amount of the resources to do it that sucks or knowing that okay now I'm to have a guy that is going to back me with a pocketbook to go and win. That was the choice for me was, I just want to win. I don't want 9-11 to happen again. And that's hard to stop when you're giving, when you're creating vacuums for evil to fill. And how much of an impact has it had having Trump as president and making those decisions to fund the military better in terms of success overseas?

I mean, we smashed ISIS in a year. One year. year one year they rose for three and and started gaining ground the isis caliphate into all of the middle east like they were popping up we had ice people swearing allegiance to isis in africa you know like the boko haram was like yeah we're isis now like what are you kidding me and that cancerous plague spreading all over the world because we weren't aggressively with vigilance fighting those ideas. Then, you know, November roll around 2016. And it was by at February of 2017. It was like, go.

And it was off. You know, we're literally smashing them at every single opportunity dropping the biggest bomb you know in taliban the jdm or the was it the moab yeah but that's pretty cool i just dropped the you know the bomb next to the size of the nuclear weapon that's that's awesome and this is all because of trump getting into office and funding the military. Yeah. So the president comes out with this national strategic plan, and that goes to a bunch of different things from Department of Defense to Department of State. And every single one of these look to that idea, that document as to how they're going to operate.

that idea, that document as to how they're going to operate. And then you have the appointees to those positions, like Mattis, for example, where then he interprets what the intent is from like the executive plan. And then for department of defense, how are we going to fulfill that? And then that goes to all of the regional commanders and to all the special operations units. And then missions are built off of fulfilling these ideas. And those ideas were smash ISIS, remove radical terrorists off the planet, and provide security and stability with all of our partners, and then grow who our partners are. So like in Africa, if you went back five, six years, you would have three or four, five countries that were part of this, like this group of regional Africans wanting to be free, right? Like they don't want Boko Haram or Al Qaeda or ISIS coming in and telling them what to do. They want a free constitutional government. So we started helping. Now there's like a

dozen of those countries that are part of this group. And they're all doing they're all doing the work. And it's amazing. It's amazing to see what happens in just a couple of years in any one of these countries when they start doing the work. It's no different than a person, right? But it's a group of people, and they're all believing in these ideas of freedom, of education, of prosperity, and we're just creating an opportunity for those to be realized. This is not a message that gets out enough. message that gets out enough. What you're saying right now about the importance of funding the military, about all the positive aspects of these operations, and about how squashing these

fundamentalist terrorist groups can lead to democracy in all these places and can lead to flourishing schools and growth of these individual areas. Yeah. This is not a message that gets out enough. No, I mean, that's by design a little bit. I think, you know, half the country doesn't want the other half to look good. And we definitely know that all of our enemies, foreign enemies, are 100% participating right now as we move towards November in delegitimizing what this country stands for in the process of our elections and what we're allowed to do successfully overseas. So like, you know, from Russia to China, like they are in the business of hurting America. And they're not only here, like making our election seem unfair or broken, but also abroad where they're

trying to, like every place that we are, they are as well. And they're trying to do the opposite of what we, like they want radicals, they want broken, they want, because every little bit that they do is more that we have to fight against. When I said that an insurgency is cheap and a counterinsurgency is expensive, but we're fighting counterinsurgency over the planet. with Portland firing off, Seattle firing off, I think it would be very naive for us not to think that China and Russia are negatively participating. If you look at 2016 with Hillary and Trump, were the Russians involved? Yeah, yeah, for sure. They're stoking the fires of hate on both sides.

And it didn't matter who won. Like they didn't want Trump to win. They didn't need Hillary to win. They just need the process to look broken. They just have to make us look bad. It doesn't matter to them who wins and coming to Biden and Trump. It doesn't matter who wins. It matters that they delegitimize the process of a fair election in a constitutional republic? It's really easy to do. I'm going to use, all right, you have a birthday coming up. You are going to turn 60. Happy birthday.

You look great for being 60, Joe. And you're going to have a party to celebrate this. And you're going to have all your friends over. You got some gay guys. You got some black guys. You got some Mexicans. party to celebrate this. And, um, you're going to have all your friends over, you know, you got some gay guys, you got some black guys, you got some Mexicans, you got, you're a pretty balanced person with lots of different friends from lots of different cultures, not, but they're all going to be in the same room, right? Got this big, huge melting pot of your party. Cool. It's going to be a rad party. You got a bar. Um, you kind of rented this cool place as a, you know, some few bathrooms

has this nice, nice balcony, uh, this beautiful statue. Um, and there's like this ice sculpture, um, that's, that's some great drinks on it. And the punches underneath it. I don't want you to have a good party. I'm, I'm your insurgent. I don't like you. I don't like your ideas. I don't like this idea of everybody being able to co-mingle. So I'm going to go and I'm going to ruin your party. I had a friend of a friend that kind of got me in. So how hard is it for me to ruin your party? Super easy, right? I could go piss in the punch. I could go find that gay guy, use some homophobic slurs. I could find that Muslim over in the corner. And, you know,

tell them that like the PLO is the dumbest group on the planet, you know, that Israel should own everything and that, you know, Muslims are ignorant, multi wife assholes. All of it's untrue. It doesn't matter if I believe it. I'm just there to piss people off. I'm gonna go to those two bathrooms. I'm gonna go give you an upper decker. I'm gonna go poop in the top of two of those toilets. Well, that's disgusting, right? Stinks. Maybe I'm gonna to go to those two bathrooms. I'm going to go give you an upper decker. I'm going to go poop in the top of two of those toilets. Well, that's disgusting, right? It stinks. Maybe I'm going to go chip away at that little beautiful sculpture. So when somebody goes to scoop their first punch, the whole thing topples over.

So easy and so cheap for me to ruin everything about your day. That's what they're trying to do in an election, right? They're just trying to erode the process and ruin it. And it costs them nothing to go and piss off every single group, the far right, the far left, they just want people angry. And the process is so simple now with Twitter and Instagram and Facebook, right? These set up these, these massive bots that can go and like things and create, and they play this long game where they just start planting seeds of distrust and, and they're spending money to make Antifa mad. They're spending money to make the Boogaloo bros look mad. And they want everybody to be mad at everybody moving into November. So then the process, the election is jacked,

but your party. So you do have an option. This is the catch 22 of how difficult it is as a leader to stop it. Like I could hire security guards. I could put a guard at the front. I could put a guard by the punch. I could put a guard in every bathroom. I could check all the IDs of everybody coming in. I could have like an exact list of people that are allowed to attend. But now I just ruined you just ruined your own party, because you're trying to provide security and stability. And you put all of that in there. And but now your party sucks, right? Like I can't get a drink, I'm only allowed one drink. And nobody's allowed to talk to each other. and nobody's allowed to hang out. Everybody has to be segregated and separate. So you ruined your own party. So in either case, you give me freedom of movement, the American way, and I'm going to

ruin it. Or you try to come in too heavy handed and then you look like a dictator. You know, you'll, you'll look like Hitler himself. So how do you, how, how do you have a good party? Like Hitler himself. So how do you have a good party? It's hard. That's where we're at right now. They're literally doing that with every way they can. It's frightening.

So this idea that Russia just wants Trump to win, it's horseshit. Yeah, they don't care. They just need the process to look bad. So we have a constitutional republic, right? What do they have? Dictatorship, basically. Yeah, absolutely. So they don't need a friend.

They just need the process, the idea of America to look broken. That's success to them. I can say this with such absolute conviction because this is what we do. This is what we do. This is what we go overseas and do. We have specific groups that are doing this exact thing to make them look bad, but they're doing it to us. And because America is so free, it's so much easier to do here like how hard is it for me to go to russia and or land in china

and go and start planting seeds of discontent it's pretty freaking hard right like here it's not so hard to fight this so because of the fact that we have freedom because of the fact that we have these democratic elections because of the fact that we have these democratic elections, because of the fact that we have the ability to express ourselves and communicate freely online, which they don't really have in either one of those countries. I mean, there's severe repercussions for criticizing the government in China. Severe. And same thing about Russia. So because we have this freedom over here, they participate.

And the way they participate is through the Internet Research Agency. I had a woman on named Renee Darestas who extensively researched this and was talking about how spectacular this operation was and what they would do. They literally organized a pro-Texas meetup across the street

from a pro-Muslim meetup. And they set it up. They set it up that way. Yeah. Yeah. A friend who's very well-versed online found this Antifa rage, this thing against white rage online. And they traced the IP back to Russia.

Yeah. And they're like, this is wild. This is wild shit. It's not wild though. It isn't. Because we did. Yeah.

America, wake up your eyes because, wake up and open your eyes to this is happening where how naive is it for us not to think that our enemies are trying to negatively affect what is happening here right because this is the place where you can negatively affect it in the way that they can do it here which is different than the way you could affect anything in russia or china because of the fact that we have this freedom of expression.

Yeah. They don't need somebody to win. They just have to make us look bad. This is where our media has failed us because our media takes this horrible partisan position, whether you're on the left or the right. They only want to look at the things that show that the left or the right, depending on who your enemy is, is fucking up and china or russia whoever whoever you deem the player that's the key player is influencing our elections because they want this person to win so if you love america you

will vote against trump because the russians want trump to win this is this is the fucking narrative that keeps getting spit out at us and it. And it doesn't sit well with me. And I'm glad you're explaining it the way you're explaining it. Because partisanship and this inability to look at things objectively is really fucking us up. It's really bad. And these motherfuckers that are running the media, there's a reason why people aren't paying attention anymore. There's a reason. There's a reason why those sources are not trusted.

Divided is perfectly divided like if if i if i were in china or in moscow i was like exactly what kind of environment do i want so i could negatively affect an election you're looking at it right yeah i'm gonna stoke the fires of the one percent on? I'm going to stoke the fires of the 1% on the right. I'm going to stoke the fires of the 1% on the left. And I'm just going to, I want them so angry. I've created all these different accounts that have thousands of followers. They're fake. The followers are bots. And the people that are saying that those are real people that speak perfect English. And they are in there in those groups, just planting hate. So people just get madder and madder and madder. You know, we look at like Black Lives Matter.

I don't think there's a single American that's going to be like, no, black lives don't matter. Well, there might be one, but screw that racist, right? So few and so irrelevant. It's such a minor position. Yeah. Like, is there solidarity? For sure. Like, are the the solutions the things being

talked about not really not really why is that like i'm spending probably half of my waking hours right now developing a way to be able to train police officers and get something into every single police department so they can like, you know, unconscious bias, um, training about how to deescalate understanding different cultures, right? If I'm walking down the street and I see a key seek and I'm like, Oh, is this a Muslim? I've got to go here and fight this guy. The guy comes in a little bit close because that's part of their culture. And it's also part of their culture that they have a knife. And, um, but I don't know any of this and I just misunderstood who this person is and his religion and his ethnicity. And now i have this super bad interaction because this guy stepped into my space and all

that could have been trained out i could have taught somebody those things and with everybody being so stoked on getting angry and finding out the problems nobody's talking about solutions like how do we how do we if there's a problem in law enforcement and there is, like, how do we fix that? Can we talk about that instead of trying to find the next poor Uber driver that gets lost and immediately calling him a racist or finding the next Antifa guy

that is really just poor, lost his job, has been living in his mom's basement, and just needs something to do. Let's give them something to do, and let's make a positive impact. That is a real part of what's going on, too. Yeah. It's a real part of what's going on

is people don't feel like they belong. And when there's a movement going on, if you jump on that, you see that guy who shot the pro-Trump supporter in Portland? Yeah. And you see the interview with him afterwards? Yeah. The interview is classic.

You listen to him interview. He's a lost guy. A lost, weird, social outcast who found a home and then is soaking up all this attention that he got for shooting a Trump supporter that he's claiming was out there trying to kill a friend of his of color. Yeah. That's his description of it. And then the police show up. Yeah. And he tries to shoot them. Yeah. He's just a out there trying to kill a friend of his of color. Yeah. Like, this is his description of it. And then the police show up.

Yeah. And he tries to shoot them. Yeah. He's just a lost person. Yeah. A violent lost person. Yeah. I mean, somebody with no purpose.

Right. Is a dangerous thing. Especially one who doesn't understand the consequences of their actions. Yeah. And my brother's a sheriff, Nick, in California. And the things that he has to do in a day, you know, the number of people and interactions that he has to have that he has had in his career. And every single time, is it going to be this Antifa guy that just shot somebody? Is it going to be this Antifa guy that just shot somebody in Monterey?

There was actually some Antifa guys that had thrown some pipe bombs in Oakland and then drove into northern Monterey County and set off some more pipe bombs, shot a couple more cops. And this kind of got buried in the news. But my brother was one of the guys that showed up there. And they have to deal with that that like a radical domestic terrorist. And they also have to show up when a husband and wife are having a dispute. They have to walk up to every single car as if that person is going to kill them. That person might be a DUI.

That person may not want to, if they have broken the law, not want to get out of the car. Are you going to make me out of the car? Like it is the hardest job in the world. They're under trained. They're underfunded. And, but they are the necessary security for us to prosper and be successful. And my brother is the most selfless,

incredible person is as most of the guys. And I train with a ton of law enforcement and nobody, they're not perfect. Nobody is no human is, but you can, you can't train perfection, but you can train bad out of people. And that's one of the many reasons why I think training so paramount. And, you know, to the election, and people are always focusing on the bad, like, you gotta find

solutions. If you're if you're mad, and you believe in Black Lives Matter, what is your solution? Right? If you're if you think that cops have a problem, like, I'm trying to find like, I found a solution, right? We're creating this, this virtual reality headset, that we're going to be able to put into every single police department, where they'll be able to listen to and interact with different ethnicities that that are consistent with the populations that they work in, be able to identify unconscious bias. I'm pretty aware of the biases that I have because I

look through the lens of my life through pretty jaded glasses, right? The things that I've gone and done and seen. But there's no way that I'm aware of all of them, but there are ways that you can train that out of people and that you can show them and explore. Uh, we have like some of the best brightest minds, PhDs, um, law enforcement trainers that are designing these things that we can like put, um, specular theories, my partner in this, like we can take these things and send to every single law enforcement department and train people about how to interact. And when you're a hammer and everything looks like a nail and you're going to all of these different interactions with like, is this guy going to shoot me? It's hard because he might, but he also might just be having a bad

day and you need to know how to deescalate that. And, um, but you also have to be able to enforce the law and that's the one of the hardest things right now. And I know the Chinese and the Russians are loving the fact that the, we are questioning, do laws really matter? Can we just let things go? Can we just tear down statues? Can you just walk out into the middle of an interstate and stop traffic because you believe you have the right to do that no you you can't do that like the rule of law is there not just for you but it's for us if you believe in the collective then you have to believe that those laws are there for our good. And we have to make sure we elect good guys that put in good laws. But like, if you just don't believe that it matters and you can go and you can riot and you can loot and it's just property, like you can burn that building down.

It's just property. Lives are more important than property, but there are people's lives that are attached to that property. It might be how they make their money. It might be where they live. Like watching Antifa throw those Molotov cocktails while there were kids sleeping upstairs in the apartment building.

Like, shame on you. You're being played right now. Not only that, but what you said earlier, if you do destroy that property, understand the lives that are going to be affected because that community is going to be entrenched in poverty. For generations.

Yeah. You're not doing good. You're harming. Stop harming, you know, start doing good. Find, find, like as we're on 9-11, the time, maybe the last time that we were united as a country where we're like, no, never again. Like we can do that now. We really can. I believe in the American spirit, but like they, this petty, immature hate that people have against other people. They're not other people. They're other Americans that believe in the same thing as you

and that want the same thing as you. They might have a different way of going about it and getting there and perspective, but we all bleed red. We all believe in the same thing. We all want the same thing and just finding out how to get there. I wonder what can be done to decouple us from the influence of social media in terms of, like, there's no way you could stop as of right now.

There's no way you could stop trolls. There's no way you could stop things like the Internet Research Agency in Russia or all these different online groups that are just completely created just to fuck with people. There's no way we could stop that now. Nope. If we could, we'd be better for it. Yes, we'd be better for it. We would figure out what is actually happening. If we could clearly identify the source of all these different things and let people

know. But people wouldn't even believe it right now. People are so jaded right now. If you said, hey, this is a Russian troll, people are like, no, it it's not you just work for trump yeah i know what's going on here you're not going to trick me my my buddy shane and i were talking about gaslighting this morning and um he flew he and his buddies flew um their helicopters over the trump parade that um just happened here in austin like thousands of boats went out there and um like a few boats sunk and they're like one guy rented a boat and he forgot to put a plug in there and

um one of them was like a really crappy fishing boat that shouldn't even been on the water and then one guy bought a brand new boat didn't even know how to operate it and poor guy sunk his boat but shane's like flying around and he sees everything, you know, and they're in their Robinsons 44. They're like doing these cool V flights. And, um, you know, gaslighting is telling somebody something that's not true. They're seeing it with their eyes, but they're hearing that it's not real, right? The original play gaslight was this guy making his wife be crazy. He would, he would adjust the, he crazy. He would adjust the, he would be able to adjust the wick on his gaslight

so it would get darker in there. And she'd be like, is it darker in here? He's like, no, it's this, what's wrong with you? Are you crazy? So we're in a time where people are telling us what we're supposed to be seeing, but that's not what we're seeing. So I have this conflict.

Am I supposed to believe what we're seeing so i have this conflict am i supposed to believe what what i'm seeing right here but we're being gaslit by the wrong information that's being curated in our hands in our phones and on our tvs so the lake travis thing in reality there's hundreds of boats thousands thousands of boats that are supporting trump three sunk but the narrative you're hearing in the media it was like this catastrophe catastrophe i wasn't there i was working but like my best friend is flying around in helicopters and he sees the whole time he has videos of everybody um people are crazy on boats sometimes but um you know he literally sees the whole entire lake from a bird's eye view and he has photos of the the boats the boats the few that got were being towed in

and he's like man those were the crappiest you know like i don't even know how those things are on the water but there's just people that want to participate and um but what is this huge half the boat sunk there's 20 underwater you know there's this this disaster of an event shane's like i saw thousands of boats with you know titties being shown and people dancing and trump flags and am i being gaslit you know he's asking this like that this is the definition of it is what you see. It is amazing that the narrative was the three failures. But if we take that as the micro and blow that up to the macro of that happens in absolutely everything. The shooting here in Austin, right?

We have what happened and then we have what we're told. Right. On both sides. I don't think you could take the final version of these two stories and be like, this is the same situation? There's no possible way that these two stories that went to the right and went to the left that I'm now trying to corroborate could have happened in the same situation. That's how far the lies or the partial truths go so i don't know how do you fix that i think the only way to fix that is some kind of technology that allows you to accurately read exactly what's going on that doesn't exist right now there would there there might be something on the horizon that they're like some neural link type deal where they're working on

the ability to bypass this. Right now, the connection between human beings and information is you read it or you see it. But you don't really know what it is. You're reading it, you're seeing it, you get confirmation. You're not reading it and seeing it. It's going from the person that is getting it to a thing

and then that thing is controlling what the next group sees. That's a huge problem yes like i don't want my information curated i just want information right and let me as a rational rational reasonable person be able to figure out that is the problem right the problem is you can't trust whoever there's not there's not an unbiased source there's not an unbiased and every source is also a corporation they're all connected to the machine in some really deep and crazy way the tentacles run deep whether it's cnn or fox news or oan or whatever the fuck it is yeah whatever news source msnbc

cbs abc nbc they're all giant corporations. They all have huge political investments, and they're going to give you some super distorted version of what's actually... There's not one person who will sit down... There's no Walter Cronkite on television. There's a few that are online. You can get a bunch online, and that's one of the reasons why online news journalism is flourishing, and so many people are turning to these people that are online. Yeah. But they're also flawed because they're human,

and they have their own biases. Yeah, for sure. Andy Ngo, I follow him on Twitter. He's been on the podcast. He has? yeah pretty passionate guy now

I guess he was assaulted by Antifa yeah hit him with like some cement milkshake or something yeah and maybe the worst

mistake they made because they ignited what was just kind of an independent journalist now he's like nope I'm mad at Antifa you guys like beat me up

you damaged my brain. And, um, you know, but his journalism on Antifa, albeit trying to be as accurate as possible. We know he has bias cause he doesn't like them because they hit him in the head, you know, and they beat him and they, they threw cement milkshakes at him. So like even, even somebody that has, um, trying to do the right thing, it's imperfect because with that person comes bias. Like how do we just get information? Yeah. Um, again, I really think that we're so limited because of the distribution methods that we have right now for getting out information, allow for biases you know and i don't i don't know what the future has in store but i think that we're going to come to a time in the not so distant

future where you're going to be able to know exactly what's real and what's not real yeah i hope so that's so cool yeah i think there's going to be a lot of resistance against it too we're going to find out a lot of people are full of shit. Yeah. How cool would that be if, you know, like we have the fact checker, which is like the biggest bullshit ever as a politician's talking. It's like fact check. And the person fact checking is the most bias, furthest thing from objective fact check that you could possibly get. And it was like, but you're checking the facts.

What if as that person was talking real time, like, this is true. Here's, like, the truth's not Wikipedia statistics, not like Google, also curated statistics, not like information driven from whatever news corporation, but just, like, the

real data was next to that person as they're doing the next debate if a debate happens that'd be cool i don't think it's gonna happen you don't think it's gonna happen no how can you have a debate biden's not gonna do it i don't think he can i don't think he can stand there for that long and last i don't even know what his ideas are yeah but that's the point of the debate right is is for me to learn about somebody's platform well you know at this point he's doing well by not talking that's not doing well it hurts him no i just i don't i don't imagine i would never allow him if i was in the dnc i'd be like there's

no way you're debating trump's going to destroy him but that doesn't matter because the ideas are the thing that we're voting on but it doesn't matter because the ideas are the thing that we're voting on. But it doesn't matter because people want to see who can hang in a debate and they don't want to vote for a loser. So if the guy gets up there and falls apart in the debate and starts stumbling his words and starts flubbing and forgetting what he was talking about

like Biden's done on multiple occasions, a lot of people are not going to vote for him. I swear I thought they have a scheduled debate in a couple of weeks. It's not going to happen. Don't thought they have a scheduled debate in a couple of weeks it's not gonna happen don't tell me that i bet you a hundred bucks that that's usually where i learn about somebody oh yeah yeah yeah they're not trying to learn they're trying to win i don't know about especially like i love it when local politicians do debates because those are like no hold barred truth attacks you know like well i know you took money from this auto park place you know and like this guy's like well i know you're getting money from

you know beto o'rourke and you're like this is awesome you know like i'm learning so much right now that there's no way i would have learned and they do and uh so i mean we kind of have an idea about trump's policies but how do we learn about Biden's policies? Yeah, I don't know. I think Biden at this point just wants to win. I think the best way they think to win is to keep him from talking too much, if I really had to guess.

Kamala Harris is doing a lot of different interviews and talking. What are you laughing at? I'm trying to look up to see what the new information about debates is, and this is the story I found. Trump spurns traditional debate prep with first face-off less than three weeks away. What is he saying? There's supposed to be one in about three weeks,

but he's not held a single mock debate, and he says he doesn't need to. President Trump has not held a single mock debate session, has no plans to stage a formal practice round as he readies for his first face-off with Joe Biden in less than three weeks, according to multiple people familiar with the discussions. The president has dismissed the typical debate preparations

he participated in four years ago, joking to aides and allies that he's been preparing for debates since he was born. This is what happens to fighters when they get their ass kicked. His ability to fight back an opponent in real time, he's argued, isn't something you have to practice. That's, yeah, maybe yeah maybe instead trump has so

far chosen to prepare through informal discussions with key allies and with briefings from top officials in his administration on various topics that will likely come up like that are likely to come up these people said can you would you do a debate would i yeah if if like another problem i have with if i had to do a debate no no not not you debating somebody oh i'd prepare like a mother i know you would you'd be fun to watch but um you be the control mechanism to the candidates like a biden trump debate with joe rogan hosting your questions i would want that first of all i'd want no one else in the room just the three of us cameras so we we can record the truth yeah just the three of us and you would have to stream it live so no one can edit it

and i would want them in there for hours and ideas we get to hear what they actually believe in what they're going to do who they're going to appoint yeah what judges are going to be coming in what policies from gun control to yes all of it yes why can't we have that we should have that this is 2020 i mean we have the ability to have that we're not talking about 1979 we're talking about 2020 if they wanted to do that they both wanted to come here in aust, sit down, and have a debate, I would 100% do it. I would 100% do it. It would be the best way to find

out, but I don't think that Biden can handle it. I think Biden is like, I think he's, I mean, people get mad at me for saying this. I think there's something wrong, and I don't think there's something wrong because I'm guessing, or because I'm pro-Trump. I've seen him fall apart. I've seen him fall apart. I've seen him-

Just talking. He's had multiple brain surgeries. This is him saying, I sent you that thing yesterday, right? Look at this. This is something, I mean, I'm not trying to be biased in any way, shape, or form. I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter. I just want a commander-in-chief that will let me be, do a commander-in-chief.

I like Tulsi. Yeah, I love Tulsi. Give me a Tulsi Jocko. 100%. That'd be fun. Jocko, run for president. Just the beginning of it. Just the beginning of it.

He starts talking about his brain surgery. The only uncharted person, totally uncharted portion of the universe is the brain. You know, I had, as we used to say in the Senate, excuse the point of personal privilege here. I had two cranial aneurysms. And they literally had to take the top of my head off. and they literally had to take the top of my head off. I mean, they take a saw and they cut your head off and go in to find the artery that is,

one was leaking, the other that hadn't before it burst. Those of you who are docs know there's a, every profession has their sick jokes. The joke among docs is, how do you know someone's had a cranial aneurysm? On the autopsy table. Only 20% of the people have it even get to the table. Well, one of the fascinating things is, the second operation, after the first one,

which there was a bleed and they gave me a relatively low chance of surviving, I remember going down to the doc, asking the and, you know, you're counting the ceiling tiles and you're heading into the operating room. A lot of you have been there. And I said, Doc, what are my chances? I had two great neurosurgeons. And I'll never forget, I will not mention his name, he's one of the leading neurosurgeons in the world.

He said, Senator, for mortality or morbidity and I'm thinking I swear to God now this is not a knock on this guy I'm happy he's alive but that this is what we're talking about

we're talking about someone who these are legit issues this is not he's going to be sitting in a briefing room when a Bunch of people from the Pentagon walk in and say we have found the number one terrorist on the planet what do you want us to do and That guy has to make a choice. This is by the way when he was vice president. This is this is quite a while ago Yes, this film so like

Okay, whoo the This is quite a while ago, this film. So like... Okay. Oof. The... Keeping something... The only thing that comes from isolation is a Unabomber. Like, there's nothing good that you can take a candidate and stick him in a basement and hide him there

when he is going to have to be in front of 7 billion people and be their representative, and both foreign and domestic, about how we're going to be in front of 7 billion people and be their representative and both foreign and domestic about how we're going to be operating and if that that's that scares me it's weird it's i know there's other people that could run for president i just don't understand why they chose him and why they work so hard to make sure that he's the guy yeah it's uh it's weird that the democrats chose that do you think we're going to have regardless of of chose that do you think we're going to have regardless of who wins do you think we're going to have a fair election i hope so i don't know i'm not

informed enough to make a you know a state do you think here we are in september we have september october and then we have the election yeah it's it's pretty quick. Super quick. November 3rd is around the corner. I argue that right now people are trying to negatively affect our election. For sure. And we kind of have to be aware of that. So the next time that you pick up your phone and you're like, I'm going to fry this guy. At white privilege Twitter handle, I'm going to fry this guy. You know, at white privilege Twitter handle, I'm going to get you. That person just wants you to do exactly what you're doing,

which is be mad. There's a high probability that there's a lot of that going on and that it's just feeding the flames of hate. Yeah, and it's even worse because we've had this stupid pandemic that has locked people into the echo chamber of their own ideas. And you could also say it's worse by the way Trump behaves and the way he communicates. This polarizing way that got him famous, you know, you're fired and fuck you and get out of here. And all this way that he's become famous, it doesn't suit someone to be the commander in chief.

So all these people that say that he's not presidential, he doesn't act like a statesman, they're right. They are right. This is not what you would want from a person who's the leader. You'd want someone who's exemplary. You'd want someone who's speaking in a way that would make you proud. That is an American president. And the speaking part, that is what we got from Barack Obama. What we got from him is- You're so presidential. Amazingly presidential. as presidential as anybody who's ever been. I would argue more so than anybody ever, even than Clinton. Clinton, when he was at his best, I think he was really good. I think Obama was better.

Well-spoken, articulate, patient. Yes. Measured. You know, it made you feel good that a guy smarter than you was the president you don't feel like that with trump you're like jesus christ don't say that ah what the fuck are you doing get out of here it's like i'm not a like i'm not a supporter of trump when i'm seeing what i'm seeing though is that if you're not if you don't ignore all the things that are going on with biden somehow or another you're a bad person yeah and that are going on with Biden, somehow or another,

you're a bad person. And that, that to me as a person who's a comedian, as a person who hates fundamentalism, as a person who hates rabid ideology, that's driving me crazy because this shit is all right in front of you. You're watching them stumble through his words, constantly left and right.

We're ignoring the fact that he's 77 years old. We're ignoring all these signs that show i'm not saying that you should vote for trump what i'm saying is how the fuck are the democrats running with this how is this in 2020 this is what we're doing yeah this is this is what we're doing and even the choice of tulsi gabbard like i mean of of locking tulsi gabbard out rather the choice of Tulsi Gabbard like I mean of locking Tulsi Gabbard out rather the choice of eliminating her the whole thing sat with me it's so it's so gross the way they did it the way they pushed her out the way they wouldn't even let her speak at the DNC it's wrong and you know and it was almost like she got canceled by her own party yeah yeah it's exactly what it's like and

that's that's evil right like we have a smart veteran two two terms or six terms rather as six years as a congresswoman uh two two overseas tours two been a congresswoman for six fucking years exemplary record really reasonable really intelligent displays all of the things you would all the qualities of leadership that you would want from someone running for president. But let's dox her. Yeah. Let's do that. Yeah.

The whole thing was crazy. The whole thing was crazy. And then his choice to choose, like he literally said, I'm going to choose a woman as a running man. Yeah. Well, how about choose the best person? Yeah. If that best person happens to be a woman, that's great.

But if you tell me you're going to specifically eliminate males, well, you're thinking in terms of identity politics. Is this the same Joe Biden that's been in politics for 50 fucking years? All of a sudden, you're an ideologue who is going with identity politics over the best person for the job? Absolutely. Clearly. Clearly. This is crazy talk. Kamala.

So the parties defund the police right like that's a a left progressive idea she is literally the police she's a cop yeah and and not like if we're gonna solidarity to black lives matter and believe that we can positively affect change what she was doing as a cop she's the worst of the cops she was targeting in the most racist vicious way trying to attack black communities and and black you know not not even criminals like drug drug users and just hammered them with everything she possibly could and but now she's our vice president president not only that she withheld evidence that would show that people were innocent withheld it from defense attorneys she kept people incarcerated to use them as cheap labor

to fight fire when they were supposed to be released yeah What do we have to do to get a Tulsi Jaco? You like The Rock, right? I love The Rock. He would be like a Tulsi Rock or like a Tulsi Jaco? That would be amazing. They could literally win. They could literally win, and I would be 100% in support of that. It's just we're dealing with this machine, man,

and this machine wants to stay in control. And who is going to be a good player for the machine? Who's going to do the right thing? Who's going to be a good player for the machine who's gonna who's gonna do the right thing who's gonna do the bidding i mean this is how they got bernie sanders out both times they weaseled them out and he's still he bends the knee to them every time what i don't know why he's a good guy i don't know doesn't want conflict i don't know yeah he's a very reasonable guy when i had a ton of respect for for him while I disagree with a lot of his positions in politics. I disagree with a bunch of Tulsi's on foreign policy about how to do that,

but that would be a conversation she and I can... Yes, well, I would love to have you have that conversation because the way you explain it and from your own personal experience serving, this is not just some fucking airy-fairy ideas. I go everywhere with these things. I journal, kind of. I take little weird notes.

You could go, and they're all dated, from trips to Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Niger, to Nigeria, to Burkina Faso, to Mauritania, to Morocco, to South Africa. Every freaking crazy place that i have to go and you could look and then like go forward two years three years and and look again and be like

what look at this change like it's just black and white written in front of you and my impressions of physically being there at the same place removed by 24 months and that has happened time and time again well that's why i wanted to have you want to talk about this because this is a narrative that doesn't get discussed because it's either you're pro-trump or you're pro-biden and if you're for trump you're a racist and if you're for biden you're a fool like this it's like these narratives are so goddamn stupid and they're so damaging to us and i think a lot of them have been reinforced and stoked the flames have been stoked by people in other countries that are acting

as trolls. I think that's a lot of what's going on. There's a fucking great video. See if you can find it. The cat. What? You got something else? Yeah, yeah. As you guys were talking, I found something I didn't want to interrupt with, but to support what we were talking about. As our veins were popping. Look at this. Joe and I were like...

Russian, Chinese, and Iranian hackers all targeting 2020 election, Microsoft says. So they put out a blog today, and they detail what's been going on with these companies. But does this surprise anyone? No. Okay, so if they're doing this, what else are they doing in real time? So they're not just online. If you don't think that there are, we call them Jedbergs.

We call them Jedbergs. If you don't think that there are foreign operatives that are working here, both at universities and in cities, part of the political process or part of the Antifa strategic organization, they are doing this in real time in person, not just online. This is crazy. We've observed. Yeah. Strontium, operating from Russia, has attacked more than 200 organizations, including political campaigns, advocacy groups, parties, and political consultants. Zirconium, operating in China, has attacked high-profile individuals associated with the election, including people associated with the Joe Biden for President campaign and the prominent leaders in the international affairs community. in the international affairs community. Phosphorus operating from Iran has continued to attack the personal accounts

of people associated with Donald J. Trump for president campaign. Yeah, they're fucking with us. But look, is it one side or the other? No, they're all over the place. Trump, Biden, the parties, the consultants, the point is they have to delegitimize the process. And the best way to do it is just to make it look bad and to make us fight and to make

us argue and like the fact that there's people walking down the street being like i hate cops you guys are evil like do you know any or did you just read right what you've just been reading what has been echoed like my friend matt's son who called the cops when the fucking the house was making noise yeah that's that's that's who these people are hey the vid there's a video of a crow fucking with these two cats it's one of my favorite videos there's a crow and there's these two cats that are looking at each other from opposing rooftops and like look at each other and the crow gets over and gets near the cat and starts fucking with him the cat's like get out of here watch this so here's the cat and there's a crow and the crow gets over and gets near the cat and starts fucking with him the cat's like get out of here watch this so here's the cat and there's a crow and the crow flies over and starts fucking with these cats and gets these cats to duke it out he's he literally instigates this

fight look he flies over like a fucking bird is coming near a cat why would he do that he's doing it because he wants to fuck with him so So he gets him a little agitated, and then he flies back and gets him a little agitated, just fucks with him just a little bit. And then he flies over to the other cat, and he goes back and forth and fucks with, look at it, he goes behind him and fucks with him. He's irritating him. Crows are fucking smart, man.

And this little cunt just starts pestering these cats and gets these cats. Look at him. He's pecking at his ass. He's literally, look. And the cat's like, fuck you. I'm going to fight. Everybody fight.

The cat reacts by jumping over and fucking attacking the other cat. They go off the edge. And they fall off a roof. Boom. And the crow follows him. This fucking crow is a monster. That crow is all the online trolls. Yeah.

These are Biden and Trump supporters engaged in mortal combat here. Look at the crow. Look, they go down the fucking hole where the basement is, and the crow's like, ah, ah, fucking losers. Fight. Fight. You're black. You're white.

Fight. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. That video's amazing. That's it right there. I fucking love that video. That video is exactly what's going on right now. They were just looking at each other.

Yeah. The cats were just looking at each other. They probably would have gone the rest of the day without fighting. Yeah, just lapping some milk, chasing a mouse, you know, but no. That cunt of a crow started all that shit. Got him fired up. And that crow is Russia and China and Iran and every other country that hates us. And then those two nice, peaceful cats fell off a roof fighting.

But that's what we're doing. We were literally pushing each other off cliffs. Here's another one. Crows do it constantly. Look at them. Look at them just walking up to that cat and fucking with him. They like watching fights. Look at him.

He's like, yeah, get after it, boys. Get after it. Get top. Get top. Come on. How funny is that that crows like to do that? So awesome. They do it on purpose, those little twats.

It's kind of amazing. It is kind of amazing. It is kind of amazing. I mean, props to the crow for figuring that out. But I guess crows are just like people. We all like watching fights.

Yeah. And looking at Americans, it's pretty easy to know how to piss us off now. Yes. Like every single one of these little hot button topics

pop up. There's somebody over there like, oh, I'm going to push that button. Then a new button pops up like, oh, I'm going'm gonna push that button how many buttons can we have right now because we're getting so pissed off at everything yeah we're all button we're all button yeah we're full of buttons go outside go exercise go do something go do you know go have sex yeah please

you know if you want to make a change like don't throw a molotov cocktail go find a police officer and talk to him for a little bit or go find uh go to baltimore and talk to the black community there and figure out how you can help you like has anyone gone and figured out how they can help one of these communities no because they don't care no that's that's not that doesn't get you uh instagram likes the other thing that's going on too that i I the timing of the fucking pandemic is so crazily perfect. I'm not a conspiracy theorist in the sense like I don't I don't believe in nonsense. There's just too much nonsense going on. But God, if I was, I would be looking at this.

I'm like, this is this is so perfectly organized. And then the response, like keep people from working, keep people from working. So what? So they're broke and scared and angry and then they're even more subject to this shit and now as we're what five months removed we're having that same conversation about schools well schools is a necessary component for people to work like if your kids aren't in school you can't go to work because that's a form of child care for a lot of households yes and we're like ah it's not sure it's safe man you i was joking about injecting myself with covet in my neck like you

could take my breastfed babies that eat elk and free-range chickens and have lived in safety and security their entire lives and you could like cover the whole entire room with covet and my 10 month old is going to poop that stuff out in like an hour, you know, cause they're healthy, balanced, powerful individuals. My teenage daughters, like we have not lived a day in this whole entire pandemic, really recognizing what we're supposed to be doing. We have maintained health outside activities, exercise, We have maintained health outside activities, exercise, hunting, real food, and like so, so better situated and prepared now for what looks like a scary six months in the future. I'm scared because this entire country, six billion people have been locked up moving into an election that is going to be a frightening, dangerous election.

Yeah. So there's no winners in this election. But whoever wins, whoever wins is going to be chaos. So you think when you say I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but here we are with a pandemic that shut down our economy for five months on an election year. That looks like it was the origin is in China. What are your theories? I just think that, first of all, the, I talking to Brett Weinstein about it, who's a biologist and he went into great. If you, you're listening to this podcast, please go back and listen to the most recent podcast I did with Bretttt which is like what four months ago jamie three months ago maybe

something along those lines yeah maybe maybe even two months ago he detailed the the scientific reasons why he believes this came from a lab and there is a and and it's and he said i do not know for certain but with with reasonable speculation you could look at this and say this makes a lot of sense that was come from that because of these particular reasons yeah that lab was cited in 2018 for safety violations this is i mean china because because it's a communist country right because they're a dictatorship there's not a lot of incentive to behave the way you would hope that an organization would behave yeah like you're you're under the knife of in the boot of the government all the time that people don't do the best work when they're scared like that no and that lab

and there's no incentive no incentive yeah yeah you no matter how much you work fear is your only incentive yeah you don't get anything more for working harder or better right you just don't get killed so 2018 they were cited for safety violations. This is exactly the same area where they're doing this work on coronaviruses from bats, and this is exactly where the origin of the disease was. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it came from there. They don't think that it came on purpose, though. They think it was just a sloppy leak from the lab. Sometimes things happen where they're just perfectly aligned,

and then people take advantage of those opportunities they take advantage of these situations like there's a lot of people that believe that 9-11 was an inside job what i think is when they found when 9-11 happened i think there was many people that took advantage of the chaos and there was things that were passed like the patriot act they're getting fired up on that. Let's reference that Constitution again. Yeah. It's sweeping. I talked to Snowden recently.

These sweeping, just overall surveillance of law-abiding citizens that are doing nothing wrong. And they lied about it. They lied about it. They all lied about it. They lied about it to Congress. They lied about it to our face. Obama lied about it. Everybody lied about it.

They knew what the fuck they were doing. They took advantage of the fact that people were scared, and they started just going into everybody's shit. Single most intrusive moment in American history in our freedoms. Not being encroached on, not like a little trickle of death by a thousand cuts. Like 9-11 happened.

or death by a thousand cuts, like nine 11 happened, we lost and gave up so much of our perceived, um, rights, right? Like, no, you can't look at my emails. Like I thought my emails were protected. Like my mail, you can't open my mail without a warrant. There's a due process to that. That's gone, right? Like I think every single 20 year old right now expects that every text message that they send and every Facebook message, DM, Instagram, Twitch, um, every one of those things can be read by somebody else that they don't own that stuff. That's not how I grew up. I grew up like that was my ideas. Those are my words.

Those that's my property. If somebody wants it, they have to have a warrant to look at it. Now go from nine11 to Corona. Now the second most serious time that we lost more of our freedoms, 9-11 and this. Winston Churchill said, never waste a good crisis. Yes. And you want to know when a government is going to overreach. It's in crisis.

Yes. And if you are not a strong, healthy individual that is able to be self-sufficient and be able to rationally look at things without getting spun up by the echo chamber that you're living in Twitter, you're going to allow that to happen because you're just being pitted against each other by this dribble that's being pushed into your face by people that are just trying to profiteer off of what you see and what you hear and what you think that's exactly what i think is happening right now that's exactly what i think is happening i think there's people that are taking advantage of this

crisis so i think the way to fight that is as a society to unify, to reasonably collectively be like, no, you said they can't, you know, they canceled Halloween. Yeah. They can't cancel Halloween. It's fucking crazy.

No, they can't. The only way that they can is you allowing it to happen. Yeah. Right. They can't shut down your salon. They can't tell you, you can't go door to door and trick or treat.

Right. They can't, they cannot, they can't do that. They can try. And the only way that they can't do it is if you go and do it but the fact is there's no uniformity because they're allowing people to protest so you're allowing people to protest about some things about some things because black lives matter that's it yep allowed yeah you can't counter covid protest right you can't do that evidently we'll get covid

los angeles backtracks on coronavirus trick-or-treat ban. This will all mean good, you fucks. They should drown you all. There you go. The fact that you even considered it. Dunk you all in toilets. Look at that. We did it in an hour.

We changed California. Well, everybody freaked out. I bet 30,000 people moved out of California the day they read that. My wife got a text from one of her friends. She's like, fuck this. I'm out of here. And she sent her the news on California banning trick or treat. That was her thing.

Now, pedophilia alone would be another reason to leave. I'd be out of California pretty fast. Is there a lot of pedophilia in California? Yeah. Well, here's another thing. There's legislation that's kind of being passed to... Oh, what is that? You put that on your Instagram. Is that real real like is that 100 legit that's real so that

is that really mean that a 20 year old can have sex with a 10 year old 10 year because it's a 10 year difference so but isn't statutory rape anybody who's under 18 yeah so it no it's lessening the the penalty for it. So let's say a, and the, the trans community, um, LGBTQ community was in big support of this bill because it's not fair for male to female. Um, so if let's say a 17 year old has sex with a 15 year old and she gets, or I'm sorry, a 19 yearyear-old has sex with a 15-year-old and she gets pregnant. There is a law in place where he is not going to go on the sex registry because he as a father to that child would have a difficult time being able to, if he's on a sex registry, get a job, pay for child support. So they have kind of protections in place where if he— That's only in California?

Yeah. But if he had orally or anally had sex with her, then the law would be, the penalty would be more severe. He would be on the sex offender list. Because he's not trying to procreate so the the community like the lgbtq community was like this is an unfair law because um you know it's a a gay relationship they have a harsher penalty than a um male and female. So they should be the same if, while I recognize that

and I acknowledge that that's the case and I want it to be fair, but I also don't want a 19-year-old or 24-year-old having sex with a 15-year-old. Yeah. No, I don't care where it is. No, that's crazy. There's a reason.

18 is 18. I mean, it's a good number. It's not. It should be later. How old do you think it should be? Well, I mean't care where it is. No, that's crazy. There's a reason. 18 is 18. I mean, it's a good number. It's not. It should be later. How old do you think you should be? Well, I mean, to have sex, I guess 18. But like, I was a disaster at 18. Well, I was too.

I can vote at 18. But if I was 18 and a 23-year-old woman wanted to fuck me, I don't think she should go to jail. No. I was ready. Yeah, I mean. 18-year-olds are ready. Like, the problem is our perceptions of of sex i mean i'm talking about someone who's a grown adult yeah i feel like 18 is at least pretty

close to a grown adult yeah maybe you know voting we should extend to 21 where drinking is yeah it might not be the worst idea in the world but as far as like being responsible for your actions 18 is a good number yeah 18 is, and that was the point of my post is that that person can have consent. Yes. Like the, the way there's Linton written was somebody willfully having anal or oral sex. Right. Um, I'm saying anybody under 18, if you can't, you're not willful, you're not allowed be willful right because you don't have the right to have consent yet right you're too young too young you're not an adult no yeah that's a fucked up law and then we only get the crazy sex trafficking of well i saw the picture of the

guy who made the bill to dress with a like a fucking dog collar on yeah he's a weirdo i don't make any laws especially around sex yeah it's but i just don't understand how it passed it didn't i mean it has to be signed how the fuck is that it just has to be signed by newson it's so yeah past legislation hasn't been yeah it's it's it's passed yeah that's what i was like it's you just need a wet ink signature jesus christ that seems so insane that a 20 year old can fuck a 10 year old yeah like a 20 year old can have a 10 year old boyfriend and decide that it's consent a 20 year old man can have a 10 year old boyfriend and uh as long as it's within the 10 year boundary

so like again i realize unconscious bias i have a pretty jaded view of things. And when it comes to like children, um, you know, heavily involved in counter sex trafficking, um, you know, moving from deliver fund to guardian group, um, to now with Victor Marks, uh, you know, fighting worldwide and, and, and nationally, like the, this disgusting thing that is pedophilia, like that is not a sexual orientation and people in power like finding children to victimize and they are worth money. But there's a thing now where people are trying to portray it as a sexual inclination, as a sexual proclivity. Like there's a TEDx talk about, have you seen that? Where this woman is talking about how we have to have compassion

for pedophilia the same way we have compassion for homosexuals or trans people and it's like what are you talking about well i mean i have compassion for the person but i'm not going to have compassion for any of their actions and if they need help um we can get them help like put them in an institution and they can realign whatever their problems are. But like being attracted to a child is period, wrong, end of story. I don't care what you think. Agreed. A hundred percent.

But here's the thing. How does that woman know? Like this is the thing about pedophilia. Like someone who's not a pedophile to say that this person is a pedophile can't help themselves. How do you know? Like, what do you, what are you basing this on?

Are you basing, you're not basing it on your own personal feelings. Like I know I am attracted to women. That's, I know it because it's, it's, and I know there's a lot of people like me. Right.

And so if I talk to another guy and he goes, uh, that girl's hot. Yeah, she is hot. I get it. I see what you see. But if,

if you're talking about someone who's attracted to children that's so fucking alien to me so if you're telling me that someone can't help themselves because this is a natural sexual inclination like how do you know that i don't i don't know that that's true and i don't know what the fuck you do to save them or to fix them i don't know but i think the primary concern is protecting children. Protecting a child. Primary. Yeah. More than like having compassion for pedophiles. You know, protection, we have to put action to that word.

What does protection look like? That is law. That is legislation. That is people that are being able to stand, not allow evil to happen. Right. Right? For evil to conquer, it just takes good men doing nothing. Standing back and being like, yeah, I yeah man I guess they could recognize and align themselves

with being attracted no no no not a chance if you do something and you touch a child let me tell you

that's gonna end yeah not good nope yeah and it shouldn't and that's how everybody feels everybody who has children and specifically

fuck just the fact that that actually can get all the way through to the governor's office is bonkers. Who knows what he's going to do? He's going to lick his finger and find out which way the wind's blowing. How progressive am I going to be here? You know, I'm all about getting reelected.

And his chances of reelecting now are fucking slim to none. Thank God. They hate him now. Oh, my my god he was the darling of california beautiful man slick back hair looking great speaks well they fucking hate him there now my brother says most of my sister lives in in paso and her husband who i call my brother um because we've been best best friends for kids since kids uh he works for a nuclear power plant chad and um so he's he's pretty like military go-getter hard worker you know my sister's a homeschooler she's homeschooled all their kids and they're brilliant like play multiple instruments um like you know grades ahead of everybody else and while the whole entire world is like what are

we going to do about education my sister's like individual responsibility you could have been doing it yourself not everybody has that opportunity i understand my my parents were being landowners my brother being a police officer like we have been in california for you know that's where i grew up and we have been fighting for rational reasonable politics in that in that and we we feel like we're in a foreign land yeah you know you ask how i came to texas is like i was a coward i just couldn't i said i wanted to be in a fight that i that i chance of winning yeah like maybe now for the first time california has a has a hope a chance of like changing the course of where they've been the trajectory damage has been done though you can do it you can

undo it i love dan crenshaw's man if he said that if every law that's written we have to unwrite another law you know um it's a hard thing to do to take legislation that's already been approved and passed and then remove it that's a harder thing than getting a new law. Right. So now we have this crazy amount of laws, both local, state, federal, and they just keep stacking on top of each other. And none of them are good, or most of them aren't. I'd love Dan Crenshaw. That's another guy I should run for president.

Yeah. We just... I just think California... I mean, there was an article that was written about me being a coward from leaving like yeah yeah totally you should stay and fight like fuck you fuck you and fuck you for a bunch of reasons we could start with you not letting people go back to work i think that's unconstitutional and insane and i think that's so short-sighted and people are furious and then when you see nancy pelosi go to a fucking hair salon without a mask you're like oh i see how you people really are you can also never listen to

anyone that is telling you to lose a gun when they're protected by private security a hundred percent you saw that with the mayor of chicago she's all for protest until they came to her block and then she's like get the protests off my block i have a right to protect myself what the fuck are you talking about? That's what everybody's saying. Yes, you hypocrite. It's just, and this is what happens when people get into power. This is my problem.

They're in protected, entitled positions. Exactly. Surrounded by people with guns. Exactly. And they're telling other people, us, you can't go to salons. You can't get your hair done. You can't go and have a gun, but I'm going to sit here in my high tower because I know what's best for you.

I just, I don't know what the solution is. I've thought this- Yeah, vote him out. Yeah, vote him out. But even then, I think there's a problem with one person running things. I mean, I really think there's a problem with a mayor or a governor. I think there should be a committee. I think there should be a group of people. There is, right? You have your city council. So here in Austin, we have a dumb mayor

and that mayor has a bunch of city council people that are also dumb and do dumb things. Like defund the police. Yeah. By $300 million. Yeah, well $150. $150? Yeah. The governor stepped in and said, okay, well if you do that you don't get any property taxes.

That's so genius. He's brilliant. It's a brilliant move by the governor. And if safety becomes such a concern here, he will roll in state police to make up the difference. Good. Thank you. Texas DPS, you're going to learn a little bit about them. They're amazing.

Department of Public Safety for Texas. It's our state police force. They're incredible. They have this super military academy. I think people, when they hear military, like as I was talking about that virtual reality training that we're going to get to law enforcement, they're like, wait, why is a special forces guy

training law enforcement? Like they don't need, a police officer doesn't need to be special forces. No, you don't need a tank or an AT-4 or, you know, a 50 Cal unless you're fighting the cartels. But what you do need is the process of the refiner's fire and being able to train imperfections out of people. Like, could you imagine if a city council member had to ride along with the police for a month? That's a great idea. They had to go on the calls with them.

Domestic disputes, pullovers for DUIs. Not sit in the car. They got to get out and walk up to that car. They got to put their hand on the back of the car. Put their fingerprint on there. Because if they die, they want a little bit of evidence. Police officers do that every time they walk up to a car if you watch them they go and they'll like put their thumb or their hand on the back of the car so their print is on the car so if they

get killed there later you can find out who did it that crazy how sad that is it is but as that police officer is walking up there hello sir you know you're going 85 and a 65. I smell alcohol. I have to ask you to get out of the car. We're going to do a sobriety check here on the side of the road, which is dangerous. Um, and, uh, over here is the city council member that was just recently elected and, um, they're going to be observing this. Like how cool is that? It would be a good idea. It would eliminate a lot of people from that fucking job. Yeah. Yeah. They'd also not, they'd understand. Like you said,

how do we get this information out? Like if you could do anything to, you know, like Tulsi Gabbard and I are going to debate about foreign policy. I first have to explain and let them understand what I've seen. And that's a hard thing to do unless somebody sees it. And then it changes, you know,

their view yeah fun times man what do you think happens in november do you think first of all do you think that this whole voting by mail thing which is uh being hotly contested it's so odd i get very nervous when one side's really into it and one side's really not into it. Yeah, I don't like that. That makes me real nervous because I don't know

what the fuck is going on. Man, everything that, like if you pull my wallet out, I have a license from the FAA. Like I had to send them a whole bunch of stuff for me to be able

to get into a helicopter, right? I have my driver's license. I have my concealed carry permit of my security consulting license. I have my DOD ID. Like that's five different IDs that are like, I can't go do anything in any one of those fields without it. A little picture of my face. And, and I really like that because like, I can't access a government computer without that card. I can't go in and sign my annual review, my NCOER, without my card. And it's like proof of who I am and what I'm doing. And the thought that they're going to mail out tens of thousands, if not millions of ballots to dead people, to they don't even know who they're just sending them to addresses did you see what kate what's her name kaylee mcgenna knee how do you say her name

the woman is the white house press secretary she see if you can find this she said that 117 percent of the people that are uh registered to vote in california there's there's a Just find the quote because it's kind of crazy. But she was talking about, here's the problem. She was arguing against voting online or, excuse me, voting by mail. She's like, this is why. Like, what is happening here where there's 17% more people than are registered to vote that have the opportunity to vote in California? They were in 2016. I know I butchered

that. I know, but I mean, I had other stuff ready to go for this. I've been paying attention to this. There's like no proof of voter fraud by mail that I've looked up and found that anybody else has been looking up and finding. They're just saying that it's going to be a problem without providing evidence.

Nobody's done it, though. Yeah, no one's done it at this scale. I mean, no one's done it at this scale. I mean, no one's done it like they're going to do it. What they're saying is they're trying to do all the voting by mail or a giant percentage of it by mail. That's never happened before. The same with the post office problem. They're like, no, we're not going to negatively affect the election. We're going to try to do everything that we can.

But the post office is like, I don't know if we can do this right now yeah when someone's saying there's no evidence for voter fraud in the past yeah right but what percentage of people voted by mail in the past it's been reasonably small find out that mick genny uh quote because it's it's a kind of crazy thing 117 percent california registered she she was explaining how there's multiple issues with this. These people that are sending in these mail-in ballots, how many of these are legit? How do you find out?

How much research has to be done? How much investigation has to be done to make sure that these are legit ballots? Do you see some of the districts in Illinois during the 2016 election? There was like 104% came in for Obama yeah

that's not right it's impossible that doesn't make sense it's like I'm 100% committed I'm 110% committed you can't be you can't be 110% I know you want a bigger number but that's an American thing to want.

When I'm trying to look this up for her, all I'm finding are reports saying that she's voted by mail a lot of times. Yeah, but that's not what we're asking. I know, and I'm looking for the article you're asking for. That's so hard to find. I'm trying to find the specific thing. Have you ever started to type in a Twitter search? Just write 117% voter by mail. I have.

Okay. When you type in, like on Twitter, for example, if you put Trump in a hashtag, the things that populate underneath that. Oh, my God. It's a C. Yeah, it's a C of Trump lied, Trump's evil, Trump the white supremacist,

but those are the ones that automatically populate. Yeah. Now are they, um, project Veritas did a funny thing. Um, they were showing where they knew things were trending throughout the world and here in the United States at a crazy hundreds of thousands of retweets through this hashtag, but none of it were, were, were going to automatically populate in a search under that same thing. Well, there's a real problem with that for sure.

The, the bias on social media is unstoppable. It's not just social media. It's information searches. When you're trying, like my, my voice, I love my daughter,

Julia. Um, and she was preparing, I think she was 16 or 15. She was preparing for like a debate and she was getting information and she's just like Googling the stuff. And I was preparing, I think she was 16 or 15. She was preparing for like a debate and she was getting information and she was just like Googling the stuff. And I was like, so when, you know, in college, I was, we weren't allowed to do that. And citing our sources, like they had to be like very specific and how that process works. And, um, you know, when you do real research, she's

like, well, Google was just giving me the information. I was like, no, no, Google's just giving you the information that Google wants you to have. She's like, but, Google's just giving me the information. I was like, no, no, Google's just giving you the information that Google wants you to have. She's like, but I'm just Google. Like, she could not compute that the information that she was being given from a search, that it wasn't just a search. Right. And how do you explain to somebody that the information that they're reading isn't all of the real information. It's only a portion. It has to take, it takes a long time before you really digest that.

YouTube's another weird one where kind of hot topic issues from an opposing idea, those get buried. Well, how about all these doctors that were against this idea of the pandemic and the lockdown? They were saying we need herd immunity, like real doctors. And I don't agree with them. I'm not saying that they're right. But I'm saying that they were all banned. Like some doctors are saying we use hydroxychloroquine and Z-packs and I've had amazing success treating patients.

Banned. Video banned. The dangerous information. My own doctor, my own doctor said hydroxychloroquine is fantastic if you catch it early. He goes, it really stops the propagation of the disease if you catch it early. But the- A lot of doctors think that, but it becomes political.

Brendan Schaub, when he got COVID, you know what the doctor said to him? He said, I don't know what your political leanings are, but I really believe in hydroxychloroquine. He's like, what the fuck are you saying? My political leanings. How does it have anything to do with my health? Exactly was give me the shit that works i don't want to get sick he's like i got covid and so he got on the hydroxychloroquine he was good in three days like you got the the red pill and the blue pill yeah and they're both crazy pills can i just have what's in the middle you know that that rational reasonable yeah give me a purple pill yeah it's

this is a weird fucking time for everything you don't have to find that jamie if you give up i mean i found actually an article from two years ago explaining what how that number was put out there and i know this video she's talking about it i found it in the transcripts but i'm trying to say that like how they found out that there's 112 percent of the people that are registered to vote there's an explanation for it oh okay people move and they don't fix like right okay their address so her um description of it is she's making it seem like it's fraud it's not fraud it's just people that are like it doesn't make sense does it no that doesn't make sense and then she just moves on so it's like it's not that's fraud so she's playing a

little game yeah that's what she does So she's playing a little game. Yeah. That's what she does, yeah. She's pretty good at it. There's a whole thing going on today that Trump was being interviewed by Bob Woodward for his book. Yes. And back in February, he's downplaying. Downplaying is the word that's going all over the internet.

He's downplaying the thing. Yeah. She then said, he's not downplaying it. When he's on tape saying he's not downplaying it when he's on tape saying i'm downplaying it and now he's coming out saying those words i used on tape are not the words i said it's like what didn't she she said there was a also a thing where she was confronted by a press person about that and she said read the rest of his quote the rest of his quote it The rest of his quote. It wasn't just a yes, I'm down, but because I don't want people to be in a panic about this, but I am concerned.

Like there was an additional quote. I heard the quote. I wasn't even going to read it. I heard the video. Like you can hear it. Oh, let's play it. You got it? It's not ours to play.

Oh. Oh, it's Bob Woodward's? Like whoever's putting it out, CNN, Bob Woodward. But isn't it Trump's words? It's not Mark Tate. This is where we could get into CNN. Like, whoever's putting it out. CNN, Bob Woodward. But isn't it Trump's words? It's not Mark Tate. This is where we could get into, like... Oh, okay. I get it.

I get it. They're selling a book right now. Right. Oh, they're selling a book. Bob Woodward. I'm just saying, like, it's all... How's that guy still alive? It's all confusing.

It's a Watergate guy? Yeah. Must be taking his vitamins. How long has he got left? Get that vitamin D. How old is that dude? Must be old as fuck, right? He was probably in his 40s back in...

Back then. 77. There you go. So he's Biden. No, that's the same age. I think he's 78. Crazy. It is a different time, though.

People are living longer. I know some 77-year-olds that you're like, look, Shane, my buddy, his dad, uh, is like has a six pack. He's pushing 70. Really? Like jacked. He's out there, um, barefooting on the lake at like 40 miles an hour.

You know, he skis every single morning and, um, all of his, all of his professional bull rider friends, you know, like, yeah, they, they got gnarled hands from strapping into the bulls for so long, but they're still, like, chunky shoulders, strained necks. You're like, dude, this, how old are you? Just look amazing. You know, like, I'm 41. I'm looking at these guys like,

oh, I'm going to look like this when I get this age. Yeah, you can do that now. In the old days. Mike Tyson, man. Yeah, dude. Listen, man. I had him on the podcast, like, 10 months ago, and then I had him on the podcast last week. And that's two totally different human beings.

Yeah, that's a science project right there. Really? There's a lot going on. But you can do that now. Oh, yeah, you can do that now. I'm telling you. Dude, he looks fucking terrifying. I mean, so like-

Ready to go. How old are you? 53. Okay, so I'm 41, 53. Do you know anybody that looked at Hewitt when you grew up that was 53? Terrifying. Well, I mean, so like. Ready to go. How old are you? 53. Okay, so I'm 41, 53. Do you know anybody that looked at Hewitt when you grew up that was 53? No, they were all dead. Right?

They weren't jacked. Yeah, so like I remember 40, my dad's 40th birthday and all of his 40 year old friends were there and I'll have to talk disparagingly about my dad's friends, but you know, there were beer bellies, you know, and guys kind of hanging out

talking war stories of, you know, were beer bellies you know and guys kind of hanging out talking war stories of um you know their glory days and college athletics um now you look like my friends they're all 40s and you're like pretty fit jacked yeah muscular healthy yeah fast you know like the kids want to go play ball and they're like yeah try to keep up boy well people know the benefit of exercise for overall health when you get older now they didn't nobody fucking worked out in the 50s and 60s they barely worked they worked out if they're doing a sport and once they were doing the sport they didn't do shit i'm gonna be a freak till i die yes yeah yes all the way to the grave you're like fuck yeah what is wrong with this guy's energy why is he training so much exactly i'm

still gonna have people come to Sheepdog Response. This 70-year-old just outshot me. Exactly. When people talk to me about, what supplements are you taking? I'm like, all of them, whatever works. What's working? Tell me what works. I'll get people on and tell me what's working.

I'll take that. What works? I'm just trying to stay jacked. I want to keep moving. I want high libido. I want high libido. I want high energy. I want a ton of fun. And I want people to be like, how do I keep up?

Rage. Rage against the dying of the light. I'm not going softly. Fuck you. Once more time into the fray, we'll go. Yeah. I don't think you people know what it's like to be both. Either people know what it's like to be tired and weak,

or they know what it's like to be tired and weak, or they know what it's like to be strong. But when you've been both, when you really know where it can slide into, and the only way you know that is if you've been strong. And most people never really get there. But when you get strong, and then maybe you get a little bit sick, or maybe you get injured,

and you go, fuck, once this ACL heals up, I'm getting back after it. I can't wait. It feels so good. Yes. Yes. I wasn't joking. It feels so good. Yes. Yes. The, the,

I wasn't joking about the transformation. I, I, Jamie, you need to come to one of these courses. Jamie's going to be shooting people. He's going to be busy. Can you believe you have a gun?

You have, you got one right there. Well, I don't know about the shooting people. He's ready. Yeah. He's ready. But like,

you get this this contagious itch yeah you know and like you scratch the surface and then you see what's on the other side and you're like oh and then you scratch a little bit more and you see like how fun and like food tastes better sex is more fun you like work is easier yeah everything just gets better and then you're in yeah Now you're hooked. But that process is like a calloused hand, chunky ears.

But man. It's worth it. It's all worth it. So good. Fucking preach it. Preach it. Preach it from the rooftops. But hate. Get that hate out. Yeah. Get the hate out. Yeah, that does not help. Doesn't help anything. doesn't help you either. Solution oriented.

It's the only poison that kills the vessel that's containing it. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, it's fucking terrible for you. And it erodes everything, physically, mentally. I posted a picture on Instagram and it was off of Andy Ngo. He just took all the mug shots of everybody that had been arrested. They all look like shit. It's so bad.

I mean, bad skin, sunken eyes, weird hairlines, like multiple colors, you know, like bad tattoos. Every bad thing that you could see visually about a person was, and a lot of people are like, it looks like they have some mental health issues and i don't know how you see mental health issues in in people but there is like a you don't let yourself look like that unless there's a problem do you see the video the woman who was saying i don't give a fuck that a fascist died tonight did you ever see that video from portland after the

guy got shot and killed oh no she's built like a Big, fat, sloppy lady with fucking sweatpants on. And I'm like, of course you don't care. You don't even care about your own body. You don't care about yourself. You don't care about your life. You found a microphone.

You got a microphone now and you're yelling it out because you've got a whole bunch of other losers who'd gathered together and you could say nonsense and they all cheer. But I want all of those people

on this side. Yes. You know, like, I feel sorry for her. I pity her. I want to go take her by the hand. I want to walk a couple of blocks with her. I want all of those people on this side. Yes. I feel sorry for her. I pity her. I want to go take her by the hand. I want to walk a couple of blocks with her. I want to pick a couple of meals for her.

And then I want to get up the next day and walk four blocks with her and then pick a few more meals with her. And then everything starts getting better. The problem is she'd have to let go and realize that she's wrong. She'd have to let go of her hate. Let go of her hate. Let go of what she's done. Let go of the path. Let go of what you've done with your body,

what you've done with your brain. Let go of the path that you've been on and recognize you're a human being and you can change and learn and grow. But you got to recognize this is cheering for someone who got murdered in the street. You should be like,

this is not what we're about. This is all wrong. Saying, I don't give a fuck if a fascist died tonight. No, that guy who you think is a fascist is a human being he might have a child he might have a wife he might he definitely has a mom and a dad like this is not right no this is not how we're supposed to be we're supposed to be a community America's supposed to be a community and if we disagree or we agree we're supposed to

work it out we're not supposed to be shooting at each other in the streets over fucking nonsense and you're not supposed to be cheering about it with a bunch of other losers. That's not what this is supposed to be about. And no one is doing a goddamn thing about it in Portland. They're just letting it go. That fucking mayor is an idiot. Jesus Christ, is he bad. I loved Portland.

It's amazing. Ten years ago. I loved visiting there. I was there before the pandemic. Really? I did the motor center there we do um great there i love great food fuck yeah they got great everything they got food trucks the people are cool we run a course there uh a few times a year and we always loved like guys

the instructors always like i want to do the portland one because like the the b and b's are cool you got all the water everything's's gorgeous. All the food's fantastic. And Oregon, really the whole Northwest, Washington, Northern California, and Oregon, they're cool people. They're kind of hippie, but also kind of about health and about freedom. But they're also maybe a little progressive in some of their social ideas but they want to be left alone so it's just a cool people yeah and it's

a ton of fun but now we're like can we run a course in Portland can we it's a small amount of people man it's a small percentage of the millions of people

that live up there yeah it's a small loud angry fucked up group of people where the majority needs to

step up and they're kind of trying they're trying you know there's a lot a lot of people where the majority needs to step up and they're kind of trying they're trying you know there's a lot a lot of people that are very upset about what's going on and trying to figure out some way to get the mayor to act or get the state police to act or get someone to act it's more than 100 days of protest i love the lawsuits that are starting to pop up by business owners yeah um what was that that, the district in Seattle where they're like? Oh, yeah, Chaz. Oh, yeah, the Chaz.

Yeah, that's the one. A bunch of people are suing the city and the state for not providing the services that they had by taxes and legislation they're supposed to have. So their businesses were burnt all because they're saying that the local government was complicit in letting these things happen by not protecting, by not having police come and say,

nope, you can't do this. There's a law that prohibits you from this because a guy has a cell phone and you don't know who that guy is. You don't get to go beat him, right? Like I don't have control of this business. So I'm going to go smash the windows and burn it down

all those things are happening worth and within that chas um we're like well there's laws against that right that's arson and that's assaults and but you guys weren't enforcing any of these so the lawsuit is that these people are complicit and it's like it's going to be uh one of them was a father of a murdered kid is suing the i I think the city of Seattle for allowing that to happen. Whoa. Heavy stuff. That's heavy. Yeah.

There's rule of law for a reason. Security, stability. There is. It's like, you know, this is a funny thing that Trump does where he tweets law and order all the time. Like every few days, law and order, all caps. But he's right. You need that.

That's how you have safety. that's how you have peace what's that uh the movie where you get like a knight to go crazy and like the purge oh yeah yeah um that tell me that didn't inspire a lot of these fucks it did for sure yeah yeah and i mean you actually see like tactics that were used in that movie being used. And sometimes Hollywood is more real than fiction. And that's what happened. They took what they were watching. They're like, oh, we can go and do this. No, you can't. And don't try it in Texas.

No. That's a terrible idea. It's a bad idea. Especially what you were saying about all the special ops guys that are here. So many. Yeah, I enjoy the cigars. They had another. Dude, it was.

Yeah. Everybody loves you. It's funny. Thanks, man. I love them, too. Yeah. Listen, dude, we're already more than three hours in here. Holy crap.

Believe that? How fast did time fly? I don't know. I was looking at that skull and being like, that was pretty. Yeah. It was a white-tailed deer

I shot in Idaho, or Iowa, rather. My friend John Dudley's property. Delicious. If that guy ever comes around, can I just watch him shoot a bow? I'll have him talk to you.

I'll have him teach you. Cameron Haynes, too. He'd be happy to. Yeah, both those guys. They'll be here. Cam will be here next week if you want to hang out with him. We're shooting.

You're invited. We're shooting Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Well, when Dudley's here and he will be here, I will set it up. Have you shot a bow before? Yeah, I hunt with a bow.

Okay, you hunt with a bow. That's right. Okay, cool. Yeah, I'll have him help you, give you some and shit he's he'll fucking tighten groups up like that yeah he's awesome that's so cool i appreciate you brother thank you very much for being here yeah i'm glad you're here i'm couldn't be happier you just gotta start saying yes to some of those invites okay i will but weather's dropping helicopters gonna be flying i was just overwhelmed i would we well we had to put this fucking place together i had to move in Okay, I will. Weather's dropping. I will. Helicopter's going to be flying. I was just overwhelmed.

Aren't you getting settled? Well, we had to put this fucking place together. I had to move in. There was a lot going on. I mean, I literally decided to move and was moved in in a month. That's insane. Yeah. So cool.

Yeah. Bought a house in less than a month. I was like, let's do it. Let's go. As soon as my wife and kids were in, I was like, let's fucking go. Yeah. And it all coincided with the podcast moving to in, I was like, let's fucking go. We're out. Yeah. And it all coincided with the podcast moving to Spotify, which was crazy. They thought it was crazy.

Like, what are you doing? And I'm like, let's fucking party. Let's have some fun, man. Let's make it rad. I'm going to Texas. All right. Thank you, Tim Kennedy. My pleasure.

Appreciate you, brother. God bless. Goodbye, everybody. you