The Joe Rogan Experience - #1544 - Tim Dillon

Episode Date: October 1, 2020

Tim Dillon is a comedian, tour guide, and host. His podcast “The Tim Dillon Show” is available on Spotify. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day i'm here with the covid kid covid kid baby you're free i'm free you're covid free antibodies are negative are you worried you're traveling in some risky circumstances yeah Yeah, well, a lot of these clubs that you work are, they're pretty full. They're pretty full. I've been looking at those lines outside your club. I'm like, how big is this place? Were you going to socially distance all these people?
Starting point is 00:00:34 It doesn't seem that socially distanced. At all. I don't know, but we also don't know nobody, you know, is it airborne? Can you get it? Yes. It is airborne. 100%.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Well, that's not great. No, you definitely can get it from the air. it yes it is airborne 100 well that's not great no you definitely can get it from the air okay but here's the thing man it's this is so politicized it's been so politicized if you look at the numbers of deaths the numbers of deaths are way down they're talking about the numbers of like cases are up right but the deaths are way down yeah they're much better at treating it yeah way better but, it's like people are better at taking care of themselves. They're going to go out and do things, too. They understand. Most people are aware of vitamin D now.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I take it every day, 5,000 I use. There you go. A lot of people are aware of zinc. A lot of people are aware of vitamin C. And a lot of people are also that are high risk. They're not going. Yeah. I mean, sometimes you look at people in the clubs.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Like, I'll look at some members of my audience. I'm like, you shouldn't be here. Right. You're taking way too big of a risk. For a few ha-has. Yeah, but I'm happy you bought the ticket, and thanks for coming. But I'm like, just looking at them going, I wouldn't be in that chair if I were you. But you've got to make your own decision.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Maybe you have to. I think if I was locked up for six months, and I couldn't go out and then one of my favorite comics was in town i'm like fuck let's go out let's go out let's go do it well you get to the point you're coming yeah well you got to be obviously you want to avoid getting it but there's a level of fatalism where you have to say listen yeah you know there's no guarantee you could walk out of your house and encounter any number of things that could kill you well florida just said fuck it they just said fuck it we're opening up full capacity everything concerts everything we're gonna you could do like arenas they won't even close down for that long not that they closed down for a few weeks long enough yeah they were like that's
Starting point is 00:02:18 enough everyone sobered up that was just a hangover everybody got sober in florida they sobered up and went let's get back at it disney world's been open forever disneyland and la is still closed they're about to go bankrupt yeah disney world they're like come on in wear a mask i don't give a fuck yeah who cares they don't care just come in be careful don't get eaten by an alligator yeah you might get eaten by an alligator or you might get a cough right or you might get a cold yeah Right. Or you might get a cold. Yeah. It seems like we're trending in the direction of things opening up. Listen, you got to give people freedom. The government was never supposed to have the ability to tell you what you can and can't do in terms of what's risky.
Starting point is 00:02:59 The argument against that is that you're putting other people in danger. At this point in time, we're six months into this fucking thing. You got to peel the Band-Aid off. You got to do something. You can't just allow people to go bankrupt and never be able to work. Well, it's also like Thomas Sowell, the economist, said. He's like, one of my favorite quotes, he goes, there's no solutions. There's only trade-offs.
Starting point is 00:03:22 So it's a trade-off, right? So if you tell everyone, yes, you might keep some people healthy but at at what level of damage to the economy to people's livelihoods suicide is up child abuse is up uh there's all kinds of problems that come from a lockdown yeah it's way up suicide's way up that's crazy yeah suicide child abuse and that shocked me that child abuse was up because i was like who i thought child abuse was like a fixed thing meaning if you hit your kids you just hit your kids no i think people react to like heavy stress right i mean how many people are just broke and don't know what to do and their kids won't shut the fuck up and they just gotta smack yeah it's terrible it's very sad it's the saddest fucking time ever because people are losing their jobs and they're losing their
Starting point is 00:04:04 livelihoods and they didn't do anything wrong. Right. It's the only time. Nobody's addressing that. Right. Like nobody's addressing that. And then there's a lot of people, you know, celebrities and people that have a lot of money that are shaming people who want to go back to work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And they're saying that these people just want to go out and party and have fun. It's like, no, they need to earn money. Yeah. Well, that's shaming people that want to do shows. I've seen that. It's like, no, they need to earn money. Yeah, well, that's shaming people that want to do shows. I've seen that. Right, yeah. It's crazy. They're fools.
Starting point is 00:04:28 They're people with money. And listen, people can do almost anything that puts them at risk and freely, right? You can BMX bike. You can fucking bungee jump. You could go sail. You could eat anything you want yeah you could sail the ocean you could fucking you could uh hand glide you could do all these different things that are like super dangerous you could eat anything you want you go get drunk all the time kill your liver
Starting point is 00:04:55 right the idea that this shouldn't be something that you should be able to try or do because you're going to put other people at risk. Boy, that gets real sketchy. That gets real sketchy because the people that are at risk, they know they're at risk. It's not like you're sneaking up on them. It's one thing if you have a kid. This is where it gets dangerous. If you have a 21-year-old kid who parties all the time,
Starting point is 00:05:16 and then you're 60, and your kid comes home, and he gives it to you, and you die. That's real. That's real. If you live with your fucking parents or you live with your grandparents, yeah, don't do anything high risk, you fucking asshole.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah. But if you're like a regular person who lives by themselves or lives with some friends and you want to be able to go out and you're willing to take the risk, you should be able to. You should be able to.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Yeah. People need to make money. Well, the government's not supposed to be able to have that kind of power over you. Right. And once they have it, it's very difficult for them to let it go. Yeah. Well, we saw it after 9-11, right?
Starting point is 00:05:49 After 9-11, the government took a lot of power, supposedly for very good, virtuous reasons of keeping America safe and protecting everybody. And a lot of those powers, they never let them go. Are we going to go right into conspiracies? They never gave them back. No, I just thought it was a nice segue. Do you have your Q t-shirt? I just thought it was a nice segue.
Starting point is 00:06:04 That's all. I just thought we could bring nice segue. Do you have your Q t-shirt? I just thought it was a nice segue. That's all. I just thought we could bring up 9-11 really quick. Just a nice route to the underground military bases. But I mean, it's true. They have a lot of power, and they don't give it back. None of the powers they get, they don't give them back. They don't go, oh, the disease is over. Now we're going to start contact tracing.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It sounds great, right? Oh, it doesn't even sound great. But the idea of it is like if you're going to you know contact tracing it sounds great right is somebody oh it doesn't even sound great but the idea of it is like if you're in contact with people they trace who you were in contact with because of covid yeah they're going to do that for other reasons and you're not going to like it they're going to use that technology to trace people exactly that are considered anti-social personality disorder or whatever it is they don't like what you posted on facebook they don't like i mean that's coming coming. But what if you get injured? What if you hurt your back and they know that they put you on pills?
Starting point is 00:06:48 Right. And then they say, hey, you driving, Tim? What's going on? Tim, you driving? Right. Your back's hurt and you're on the pills. Are you driving on pills? Yeah. Or whatever the fuck it is. If there's someone... Look, Snowden talked about how people could just read your emails, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Well, what's to stop someone from tracing you? Like, say you have some political disagreement with some guy who's in office, but you also cheat on your wife. Right. And they go, look, Tim's going over to this fucking lady's house and slipping out of the old fucking schlazu. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's a huge problem. It's a problem. That nobody, like, we've all resigned ourselves to the fact that it's happening, we just go huh right you just shrug well we're busy yeah that's how we feel about a lot of things true there's too much to think about like that's how it is with the nsa you know the the mass surveillance i mean people just sort of go well what are you gonna do what are you gonna do yeah most people are like you know my favorite and i've said it too it's like they're like if you want to surveil me doing nothing you know that's everybody's like yeah hey surveil me i get it i've said i've made jokes like that but it's it's um i think it's when you look at tech
Starting point is 00:07:54 and how much power the tech has acquired over the last five years for example have you watched the social dilemma i did holy fuck i did yeah i mean i thought a lot of that was pretty well known before it though right it's well known to you okay but i think for people who don't like really pay attention to it see here's the difference between you and i and the regular folks right people have a real job say if you work for microsoft your fucking job all day is thinking about microsoft right you have real important shit you have bottom lines you have to bump up you have you have goals to meet you have meetings you have to get together right they have things to think of they can't we're just fucking off all
Starting point is 00:08:35 day yeah yeah yeah no that is a good point we don't we don't well and part of our job is to kind of fuck off yes right part of our job is to figure out what's funny out there. Right. And you can't do that by really focusing on one thing. You have to just go all over the place. Right. But I think the social dilemma, when I watched it, I was like, yeah, it's the thing with social media is it's not designed to work well.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Like, it's designed to work how it's working. Right? I mean, that was maybe the biggest thing about social dilemma. It's like, this is designed to work this way. You should be fighting. The negativity spreads very quickly. People are going to go at each other's throats. You're fighting with family.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I watch family members fight each other that don't even talk in real life. Like they wouldn't even know each other existed. They find each other and fight and they would never see each other. They would maybe do it once at a reunion every three years. But what's the answer? Is the answer to just log off? That seems to be the only answer. Logging off is not the worst idea. Right. I think, you know, I was in the woods recently. I was in Utah hunting and no service for three days and it was great. Do you feel a high? People say like you feel a high the day, like a day of no phone. They say you feel like you get up the next day, you're noticing birds, you notice things.
Starting point is 00:09:50 You feel better. Yeah. If you can't check your phone all the time because it doesn't work, you don't check your phone. Yeah. What, are you going to look at your pictures over and over again? You're not. Right. You want interaction.
Starting point is 00:10:00 That's what you want to check, likes or comments. Dopamine hit. Yeah. I don't read comments and I don't check likes and I don't check, I have a very strict policy and it's made me very happy. Right. But even that, even that,
Starting point is 00:10:11 I watch, I look at other people's shit. Right. So I would go to look at your page. Right. I would laugh at your stuff. Okay. And I'd go read your comments
Starting point is 00:10:17 about who this guy's a piece of shit. And I would read, read assholes being mean. Yeah. Even though it's not about me, it has nothing to do with me, I would still occasionally run to things that bothered me or run into behavior that annoyed me. And I'm like, why am I focusing on some person that doesn't even have a real name? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Their name is like, you know, fucking A plus Y. I stopped the comments when one of them said that we think Whitney Cummings is Tim Dillon's CIA handler. I said, I'm going to check out now. Jesus. Yeah, they were like, he's not talking about Obamagate on his show. It's because Whitney Cummings is telling him not to. I'm like, Whitney Cummings, I love her to death. I don't think she knows what Obamagate is, and I have mentioned it a few times.
Starting point is 00:10:59 It was just so funny. I started laughing, but I'm like, because it's people's mental illness. You're just living in people's very dysfunctional minds. Well, there's people I know that I know, not good friends, but I know pretty casually that will tell me that they think the CIA talks to me about who I can have on the show. Right. Yeah. Because I've had Mike Baker on, the guy who used to be in the CIA.
Starting point is 00:11:23 He's still in. Most likely. He's still in. Most likely. I even joked with him about it. But my interaction with him is about what we talk about on the podcast. And then afterwards, we talk about fishing and his kids. Right, right. That's our conversation. He doesn't bring you into a room and threaten you.
Starting point is 00:11:37 There's none of that. The CIA doesn't have a podcasting division. Right. They're not like, who's on Marin this week? That's not what they're... They're not booking podcasts. I bet they do now. That's interesting. They might. like, who's on Marin this week? They're not booking podcasts. I bet they do now. That's interesting. They might. I bet they do now.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I bet they didn't before we came around. But now they might? I would imagine. They understand. They're big in movies. They're big in movies. That's huge. Especially movies that are made about Zero Dark Thirty, things like that, about the torture of Catherine Bigelow. They try to justify their policies through popular culture all the time oh yeah it's propaganda yeah but i just think
Starting point is 00:12:08 it's hilarious the idea that they have to now check who's on a podcast yeah i don't know if it's the cia i mean i don't know who's doing that but it's someone in government most certainly has relationships with hollywood and also like the people in hollywood if the cia calls you up and you're doing a movie like zero dark 30 right and they go, we'd like to talk to you about this. Like, fuck yeah. We're going to talk to the CIA. We're going to talk to the SEALs. We're going to talk to the NSA.
Starting point is 00:12:32 You want to know. Yeah, you want to know. But then they can also feed you whatever information they want. For sure, there's that. For sure, that's happened. For sure, there's been propaganda that's been spilled through Hollywood. There's no doubt about it. I just think they missed the boat on this podcast thing.
Starting point is 00:12:45 They didn't know it was coming. They should have gotten involved. They should have gotten involved. They need to have a few undercover CIA agents doing a podcast out of their Brooklyn apartment. The thing is, it wouldn't be good. And making millions. You have to have mental illness to be good at podcasting. You have to be a little sick.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Yeah. I mean, when I think of how many hours I've talked for, how many hours you've talked for, there's something wrong. Something wrong. Something very wrong. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when I think of how many hours I've talked to her, how many hours you've talked to her, there's something wrong. Something wrong. Something very wrong. For sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:07 And people need to realize that. Like, if you take my opinion seriously, like, listen to me. I don't even take my opinion seriously. What are you listening to me for? Right. Half the time, I'm just thinking out loud. Right. I have no, like, literally maybe 40% of the things that I say on this podcast, I don't
Starting point is 00:13:21 know what I'm saying when I'm saying it. Right. I'm just thinking out loud. Right. And that's the whole art form of doing this because you can't, you have to explore every possibility. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And sometimes I have a thought that's very well thought out sometimes where it's like, no, I've thought about this for a while and this is why I believe this. Yeah. And there's a difference. Like you'll hear me.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Right. You hear things that I say that are like really clear. I know what I'm saying. Right. I know what I'm saying. I know what I'm talking. And then you hear like rambling nonsense too. And you gotta, that's just how it goes.
Starting point is 00:13:50 If you think out loud, you're going to have both of those things. Why do you think people get so angry at the idea of that? Like people get very angry at the idea of like being, just being open to the idea of being wrong. Like people get angry and they're like, every word out of your mouth has to be absolutely the, what you want it
Starting point is 00:14:05 to be and it's weird to me because we're in a gotcha soundbite culture right so one of the ways they'll digest your show or my show is someone will put a clip up look what this piece of shit tim dylan said and it'll have something that you said completely out of context in a two and a half hour rant right where you're just like talking nonsense about jfk still being alive right or whatever it is yeah i mean i end my live show every uh every every show i've been doing right now by saying thanks for having me everybody ruth bader ginsburg is burning in hell and that's and it's that's fun because to me i'm like you know all i've seen is praise lavished upon her and deservedly so right but the funny angle to me, I'm like, all I've seen is praise lavished upon her, and deservedly so, right?
Starting point is 00:14:45 But the funny angle to me is that she's actually burning in hell. And good night. And that's fun. But if you take that, and you don't understand that that's a funny thing to say, and that there is no hell, probably, and I don't know who's there, but that's the funny angle to say. Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah. Well, that's the funny angle to say. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's, you know. One of the things Louis C.K. said when he was talking about comedy material and, you know, getting in trouble for material, he's like, comedy is often saying things that you're not supposed to say. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Like, that's why you say it. Right. Because everyone knows you're not supposed to say it. That's right. And then you go and say it and like, oh my God. And that's what's funny. Yes. The idea that you're holding people to those thoughts oh my God. And that's what's funny. Yes. The idea that you're holding people to those thoughts as if this is like an affidavit.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Right. And they've signed this, they've worked it out with lawyers and this is my position. Yeah. And this is where I stand. No, you're literally talking off the cuff, saying something preposterous like Ruth Bader Ginsburg is burning in hell right now. And you're doing that just so everybody else goes, ah. It gets a big, everyone goes, ah, because it's crazy. It's entertaining.
Starting point is 00:15:48 It's crazy. And maybe true. But what is crazy about it is that it's the unexpected. It's the crazy, just out there, say the most insane thing you can. Well, the thing about it today, though, is everyone is looking to catch people saying things you shouldn't say and getting mad at you, and then they want to silence you. They want to stop you
Starting point is 00:16:11 from saying the things that you shouldn't be saying. What happened to curiosity? To me, it's like a lot of this is the death of curiosity. Because I grew up and I listened to all these different radio shows. I would listen to AM Talk Radio, guys like Bob Grant and Rush limbaugh oh yeah i remember yeah bob grant he used to go get off my phone you fake phony fraud and he would
Starting point is 00:16:29 just hang up on people he would fight with people guys would call him was always like the same guy was like bob this is tony from seaside heights and he would go and he'd go you know i think you you know the clintons uh i think you'd be a little lighter and bob would go will you shut up and they would just fight all day and i didn't know if the guy was right or if he was wrong. I just knew what was happening was hilarious and interesting. And I was curious about what other people in the world, I was a young kid being driven around by my parents, but I'm like, I was curious about what other people in the world thought, what they were saying. Because when you listen to those talk radio shows, you're in a car, you're driving around and you hear some psychopath that that's calling bob grant like they used to say to bob grant
Starting point is 00:17:07 they'll be like you know you really disappointed me and bob grant would go do you know me do you have any knowledge of who i am like i disappointed you and then you would try to look at the cars and be like i wonder what psychopath went home and called the guy you know so i was just curious now it seems like there's this death of curiosity where no one is curious about what anyone else is thinking unless it happens to be what they're thinking it has to coincide exactly with how you view the world so uninteresting it's it's part of it is social media and part of it is trump right trump has he his brand of being president, his way of doing it, has polarized people so hard that they will do anything and everything they can to keep him from being president again. From being president of second term. And they're forcing compliance.
Starting point is 00:17:56 You have to comply with our view of what's going on in the world. And I think I find it fascinating just going through my instagram feed and looking at people who are trump supporters and trump haters and looking at their perspectives right and looking at this this fucking giant grand canyon like divide and my favorite thing is vote tell everyone to vote that's what everyone does now it's telling me i did a whole podcast episode this week i go i'm not telling you to vote it's not my job vote or don't vote it's like i don't tell you to eat your vegetables right i don't tell you to jog right i'll tell you to do anything i'm telling you have to meditate hey raise your kids you spend time with your kids
Starting point is 00:18:32 are you spending time with your son he's in college you and him don't talk like yeah what in god's name like you walk into a nightclub to see me i say ruth burt against brings burning in hell then i turn around and go everyone make sure to have a voting plan. Well, what's happened is there's a lot of these fucking idiots that aren't getting any attention.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And we've found out why they're in show business. They're not just in show business to create. They're not just in show business to hone their craft and to be good as an actor or be good as a comic.
Starting point is 00:19:00 They want attention. Right. And when there's no attention to be had on stage, they seek it out on Twitter. had on stage they seek it out on twitter and they seek it out by being correct about yeah some people are using twitter and they're just hilarious right just saying ridiculous shit very funny same thing with instagram like lil duval is my favorite yeah he's great never gets political never gets serious right everything's
Starting point is 00:19:19 just having a good time yeah occasionally talking about pussy right that's mostly what he does yeah but some people they they lack that self-awareness and all they want is likes right so they try to figure out what can i say to get people thinking that i'm really progressive and really open-minded and you know what can i say yeah that really like hits the tone and gets a lot of juicy likes yeah i'd like to hit about 2 000000 likes on this one. It's so weird because to me, social media is so fun because the people that are really the best at it are 15. They're the winners. The TikTok kids are the winners.
Starting point is 00:19:54 The D'Amelio girls have like 80 million. They're making money. They're making real money. Like millions of dollars, more than their parents. And they're doing this. Yeah. My fucking 12-year-old walks around the house all day. Yeah, so what are we all even trying to do like your take is not half of them going like this right so what are we doing like your
Starting point is 00:20:11 numbers are not like those so i look at it it's like it's a joke like social media should be a joke because it is a joke because the people that are really monetizing it like a lot of those people they're 16 year olds and they're dancing around and it's like – and it's unserious. It's a silly thing. The accumulation of time during the day, right? If you look at people's phones, I'd love to grab Alyssa Milano's phone and go, eight hours? Right. Eight hours you're on your phone? Eight hours?
Starting point is 00:20:35 How many of these people are interacting with other human beings for eight hours a day? Not – yeah, very few. Very few. And certainly not having meaningful conversations and long – what they're doing is they're seeking approval through others online in this very fake, hollow, shallow way. And that's what Twitter is. It's arguing with people. But some people use it well.
Starting point is 00:20:56 There's journalists that use it well. There's people that find interesting things to discuss. And some people pull it off. But it's not many. Yeah. I'm wondering if the answer is just abstinence because i don't think people can handle this right that's what ari found out yeah i think that you you might have to just disconnect and i wonder if subsequent generations
Starting point is 00:21:16 will like they'll just go we saw what happened in 2020 and this stuff almost led to a civil war and craziness we don't want any part of it. Too many people like it. Too many people like it for everybody to jump off. But I think enough people are going to understand because of documentaries like The Social Dilemma and conversations that they have with each other about it where they're going to check out. And what is that? The light phone? Is that what it's called?
Starting point is 00:21:37 The one that it's like it's a black and white phone. All you can do is text and make phone calls off of it. It's like a small little. So it doesn't give you the vivid imagery of an iPhone. Right. Can't watch YouTube videos on it. Just call 911. But if you want to text me, you can text me.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Right. And if you want to call me, you can call me, and that's all it does. So no data. Is that what it's called? The light phone? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Look at this thing.
Starting point is 00:21:58 See, this is for people that realize they're junkies, and they're like, oh, I'm a junkie. What an... It's kind of... It's a little embarrassing, though, that you go, I can't control myself. I need a light phone. It is, and they're like, oh, I'm a junkie. It's kind of embarrassing. It's a little embarrassing, though, that you go, I can't control myself. I need a light phone. It is and it isn't, though, man, because there's something to be said for this. There's something really good to be said for this. Yeah, it's a phone, an alarm. Oh, you can play music on it.
Starting point is 00:22:17 You can get a taxi. Taxi? Where do you live? You live in Bangladesh? Soon, light phone's going to sneak in a messaging feed. Like, Light Phone's going to... No. It's going to start to creep in.
Starting point is 00:22:27 No, no, no, no. I'm amazed that it has music on it, though. I am shocked by that. The Light Phone can call, text, or set alarms out of the box. What's up, Jeremy? You might be right. Some parent will buy this for their kid and be like, you can have a phone, but all you can have is a Light Phone,
Starting point is 00:22:40 and then kids will hack it. Oh, man. It's coming. No, it's coming. There should be... By the way, they should have, like, a fight phone where the only thing on it. Oh, man. It's coming. No, it's coming. By the way, they should have like a fight phone where the only thing on it is Twitter. You can't call anyone.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You can't text. Just have a fight phone. It's just Twitter and Facebook and you can't call 911 if you get hit by a car. Optional tech available includes calculator, a simple music player,
Starting point is 00:23:00 and a podcast tool. While you fucked up there with the podcast. Big problem. Big problem. Here's an animation of some of the interfaces or future tools that are still in development. Not all these tools are yet available. You know, I know friends who
Starting point is 00:23:14 have taken Twitter and Instagram and Sam Harris deleted Instagram off his phone a long time ago. He told me, he goes, I'm infinitely happier without it on my phone. Because he would get in arguments with people. instagram on excuse me twitter twitter twitter and i would text him i'd be like what the fuck are you doing man you're a neuroscientist you're brilliant why are you fighting with people why you fight with these idiots but it's it's like you get wrapped
Starting point is 00:23:38 up and people like saying disparaging things about you yeah you're being defamed and you're like i should read it i should read it you don't have to read it. You don't have to read it. Keep moving. You're big with that. Like, you don't get into the fray when people say nonsense about you. I don't. There's too many people saying nonsense about me. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:23:54 What am I going to do, spend my whole day doing that? Right, because it would take hours and hours. Yeah, and that's how you wind up not being productive. Right. You want to be successful? You want to get things done? Yeah. You can't be arguing with people about who
Starting point is 00:24:05 you are right you won't you do you know who you are if you know who you are you can't argue with people about who you are right you know makes sense people want to bring up mistakes you've made 10 years ago or five years ago like okay great good luck with that try to diminish me it's a silly way to treat people right i wouldn't do it to other people i don't want them to do it to me but i don't want to argue with you either. If you want to talk in person and people want to talk in person
Starting point is 00:24:29 that's how people work things out and most of the time when you do that you wind up hugging or laughing. Yeah, it's fine. Most people are cool.
Starting point is 00:24:35 It's a shit way to communicate. It's bad. I know people, I'll see people that are fighting on Facebook and I'm like, I know you have
Starting point is 00:24:40 each other's numbers. Right, and also fuck the number. If you saw each other in person, I guarantee you'd just talk. Right. Nine times out of ten. Right. You would just talk.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Right. You would just be like, well, I think he's this and that. Well, maybe. I mean, I don't know. Right. Like, you'd work it out. Right. It's not that wall there that's between you on social media.
Starting point is 00:25:00 It's also like when someone's writing something and you can't, you're not there in front of them. They're just writing it and then you have to read it and then you write something back. It's like, it's, we have an amazing way to communicate. Right. It involves looking at each other. It involves being near each other. It involves registering when you say something mean and it bothers a person.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Right. Like all that stuff's out the window when you're just texting. Yeah. Or when you're tweeting. Tweeting's even worse, right? Yeah. Because then the whole world's seeing it and you know that someone's saying something mean about you and other people are reading it.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Right. This must be real. Other people can read it. Yeah. It's a terrible way to communicate. It's the worst. It's probably the worst way in history we've ever had
Starting point is 00:25:40 to have a productive conversation. And there are so many people that are mentally ill because of it. Yeah. Mentally ill. Do you think it exacerbated something? A hundred percent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:51 A hundred percent. Yeah. And a lot of them are these fucking actors and actresses. Yeah. That are just, they're not getting any attention. It's narcissism run wild and there's no puncturing it
Starting point is 00:26:02 with any type of objective reality or facts. They're creating their own world to live in. Does this get worse, though? I think it kind of gets worse. I think it heads to a kind of dystopian place where everybody lives in their own reality. We're seeing that right now. And it just seems to be inevitable to a degree. The real fear is that it's going to get more immersive.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Right. The real fear is that the solution will be even worse than this. And it's going to be like in your head, shit in the head. Yeah, some Neuralink type shit that the next level of this interaction, the next level of technology is going to be way more immersive. That's what I'm worried about.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I'm worried it's not going to be something you escape from. You can just leave your phone there. Yeah, but if that phone goes into your body exactly you're not escaping yeah you just hit the switch tim just hit the switch don't turn it on when you pee and you're in don't check your messages while you're peeing right just let me see how people feel about but click everyone's mad everyone hates me making me cane routine i gotta be honest with you it sounds so convenient the chip already because I lose my phone a lot
Starting point is 00:27:05 so I'm like already like I could just get a chip and then just kinda click it on and I will just stick a chip what are you worried about
Starting point is 00:27:12 you're a strong man yeah you can handle it what are you worried sticks and stones can hurt your bones I know maybe we should all embrace it maybe we should just go that route
Starting point is 00:27:19 like maybe there is no fight anymore maybe we should just maybe we're not spending enough time on Twitter right just be a cunt 24 hours a day. Just lay in a spot and tweet. Go to war. Just go to war.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Just fire off tweets all day, every day. Fight with people you don't know. Just, just quote people and go bad take. Nope. I love that. You just quote tweet and go,
Starting point is 00:27:40 nope, fuck off. Bad take. Be better. Be better is my favorite. Be better. Just keep going. Just all the passive aggressive shit that you could say possibly.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You almost wonder, do you just jump in hard? And then you have Facebook, which is to me the funniest one because it is truly a graveyard. It's elderly people screaming out into the void, into nothingness. Writing long, multiple paragraph posts. It's purgatory. a graveyard it's it's elderly people screaming out into the void into nothingness right it's purgatory yeah multiple paragraph posts it's purgatory for people that are like on their deathbed they're in the latter years of their life their dog just died they've got a picture of their dead dog on facebook they're saying max took his last nap and then they're writing three paragraphs about kamala harris it's like this is
Starting point is 00:28:25 crazy and then other people are fighting with them and it's really sick but i like it i enjoy it i do a thread sometimes instead of a netflix movie sometimes i'll just do a 300 comment thread and just just yeah just read it i'll just read it i'll just i'll just go wow interesting you know some people are surprisingly smart. Some people are so out there. Some people that used to sell me cocaine are now big into family values. Really? So I love that.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah, a lot of my ex-coke dealers are now Q people. So they're like, save the children. I'm like, you didn't raise your children. You sold me cocaine. I was a child. I was doing it when i was in my teens and now you're like we need to save the children in the tunnels i'm like what so it's fun to track the progression of uh people through those sites yeah there's enough real child
Starting point is 00:29:18 trafficking where those people get like positive reinforcement of their ideas of course like we were talking about recently jam, those 35 people that were saved in Georgia. I heard some were also saved in Ohio. No. It's real. As wrong as they are, they're also right. That's the thing about the cube people. As wrong as they are, they're also right
Starting point is 00:29:38 in certain instances. Human trafficking is a massive problem. There have been massive cover-ups with our government and many other governments. Do you know that right now- And we're in the midst of one right now. Today, there's more slavery today than when we had slavery in the United States. 25 missing and endangered kids rescued in Ohio over two weeks.
Starting point is 00:29:56 U.S. Marshals located dozens of missing children between the ages of 13 and 18 in a mission called Operation Safety Net. The children found in Cleveland, East Cleveland, Akron, Mansfield, what is that? Euclid. Euclid. Euclid, Willoughby, and even Miami, Florida. Wow. So right there, it's an operation. That's a trafficking operation.
Starting point is 00:30:16 It's real. Yeah, it's absolutely real. And it's particularly real when you can get kids that are orphans. Fall through the cracks. Foster kids. Yeah, and the government, I mean, this is what nobody really wants to admit, that the United States government
Starting point is 00:30:30 at all levels has in many ways like been either a kind of, I won't say a sponsor of this on the whole, but there's elements of the CIA that have allowed things like this to happen in order to get information on people this is this is well that was the idea about the epstein thing absolutely it was that they let him do that correct they would have something over these people and that is sick beyond human comprehension and most people don't want to really admit that's
Starting point is 00:31:01 happening right and when i think like a lot of the Q people found that stuff out, then their brains melted and they were like, oh, but David Spade's eating kids. It's like, that's not it. That's not where it goes. What it is, is that you have a lot of people
Starting point is 00:31:16 that are getting educated overnight and their minds cannot handle the amount of information, much of it very disturbing. Remember last week when you asked that that was the first time that that happened, the Epstein-style story? And I mentioned that. Which Epstein-style story? Just like that.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I think you said something like this has never happened before with senators. Oh, that's right. And then you found that other story. He's the one I learned about it from. Uh-huh. Yeah, well, no, this happened before. It happened in Omaha, Nebraska. It was called the Franklin Scandal.
Starting point is 00:31:48 A lot of people know about it. A guy named Nick Bryant wrote a book about it. And there was an interstate pedophile network that was trafficking kids to wealthy and powerful people, many of them in the government. I mean, there's a market. There's money here. This was the one. That's separate from North Fox Island. North Fox Island also.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I mean, there's many, many. He knows a lot about it. There's many. I had some guys on the podcast it blew my mind i had no and i was a conspiracy guy and i had no idea that this was going on but a lot of it is blackmail yeah and a lot of it is people allowing the worst things imaginable to happen to children in order to gain leverage on other people that's what was happening with epstein that's what was happening with with franklin but it's also people that have that hunger. They have this appetite for sick shit.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Of course. They're sick, sadistic pedophiles. And then some group of people call it an intelligence agency or whoever. Whoever wants leverage, whoever wants power is using this as a means to obtain it. So even though the Q people are saying, well, everyone in Hollywood has been executed and now they're clones. I mean, it's kind of funny. It's kind of funny a little bit. You know, JFK Jr.'s alive.
Starting point is 00:32:50 There's some real wild stuff. But the core premise, which is that human trafficking is a horrible, insidious thing that is connected to many high-powered people, isn't necessarily wrong. Right. No, it's not. It's not wrong. And there's a lot of evidence throughout history that's why you know that pizzagate shit turned out to be nonsense but but they're creepy and that art is creepy the what's not just that the art is creepy yeah it's that the the do you remember
Starting point is 00:33:18 when breitbart wrote a tweet about john podesta yeah Yeah. And he said something to the degree of, when will it come out that John Podesta is, like, protecting, you know, sexual predators or something like that? I forget the tweet. Jamie could find it. It was along the lines of that. It was almost like that he was helping them. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Enabling. Correct. Enabling. Yes. And I forget. Yeah. I mean, there have been people like that in high levels of government and in leadership there it is how prog guru john predesta is in household name is world-class
Starting point is 00:33:54 underage sex slave op cover-upper defending unspeakable dregs escapes me now 2011 february 4th he died shortly after that yeah he didn't die long after that. Not long. But he also was unhealthy and crazy. He was kind of crazy too, right? I don't know much about him, but I'm sure he was a little wild. I mean, to get into that business,
Starting point is 00:34:12 you have to be, right? I would imagine... I mean, he was a guy that did a lot of stunts. He was very, like, you know, he was like one of the incendiary, like he, you know, made a name for himself and made a name for his company. That's the problem with those guys is yeah like whenever someone goes way out of their
Starting point is 00:34:29 way to do stunts and to do things it's like huh yeah and then something else if you're involved in something and then it's legitimate now i have to go right what is it that um the guy uh what the fuck is his name that guy that's always uh doing the undercover shit james yeah james o'keefe he's got a new one now about ilhan omar ballots in the car the ballots in the car and he's got these guys saying look at all these ballots look at all these ballots but you gotta go with that guy you gotta go okay but didn't he didn't he there was some shit with Roy Moore where they were trying to get girls to say that he knocked them up.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And there was a lot of stingy shit. It's like anybody that you know, he's coming to this with an agenda, like a strong agenda. But then he also catches shit that's real. Yes. Like he caught those people on Twitter, the Twitter executives,
Starting point is 00:35:23 talking about how they shadow ban people, talking about how they ban conservatives or how they block conservatives. That's all real. Right. That's all real. Absolutely. So it's like whenever someone can't be straight with you and they have little tricks and they have stunts, whenever that you go- I think the argument that those guys make is that to get any attention in the climate that we're in, it's almost impossible to do it with like a sober, reasoned, rational approach.
Starting point is 00:35:53 You have to because it's the circus. They're competing with Trump. They're competing with anybody. They're competing for oxygen with some of the most entertaining president in history. By far. By far, right? most the most entertaining president in history uh by far by far right so anything you do now has to be on that level of of of spectacle to get any type of attention you look at the intellectuals that were whether they were left wing or right wing from 30 or 40 years ago they're
Starting point is 00:36:17 appalled at the people now who are carrying their message but the people now who are carrying their message are like we're we're we're existing in the climate that we're in now what is the general consensus like how is the media treating this ilhan omar thing am i saying her name right ilhan i mean i mean look at me do you think i know how to pronounce you know better than me ilhan omar's name when i looked today because i saw it yesterday the initial response i saw was uh it's probably more from like liberal sides for being like this is just just to fog the conversation because of all the tax stuff that just came out. And not like,
Starting point is 00:36:51 take this with a grain of salt because of his history. Yeah, but it takes time. It takes time to gather up that kind of information. I don't buy that it's just when the tax stuff came out because that seems like something that's been working out for a while. He's got absentee ballots in the car.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Yeah. Yeah. Just filling them out. People fill them out. He's got absentee ballots in the car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just filling them out. People fill them out. Is that how it works? Here's the thing. If that's not real and this turns out to be bullshit, there should be a punishment for that.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Absolutely. Because you are absolutely manipulating people. Well, you know who was fun? Remember the kid, Jacob Wool, who got banned on Twitter? This guy would just set up these blatantly fake things like they tried to get, I forget, maybe Robert Mueller or somebody. They tried to get somebody accused of sexual assault. He would do these stunts all the time. This kid, Jacob Wall.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And he would just, he's a fun young guy from Orange County. He's a fun guy. And he would just go on Twitter and try to, he would do fake press conference, Joe. They would call the whole media and they would go, we're about to reveal something spectacular and crazy. And none of it was ever true. And I mean, he would just do this over and over again. So that was just his thing.
Starting point is 00:37:55 It was just, he was just having fun. He's a kid having fun. But what I was going to say is, but if it turns out to be true, there should be punishment as well. And like when something like that gets revealed and the more of those that turn out to be true, there should be punishment as well. Right. When something like that gets revealed, and the more of those that turn out to not be true, there should be a number of those you could pull off before we go, all right, we can't listen to you anymore. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Is he there? Yeah, I don't know. He is. That kid is. That kid is. But the James O'Keefe guy isn't. No, he's got some- Because I have intelligent friends yeah that sent me the
Starting point is 00:38:25 Omar thing and they're like this is very disturbing well I think a lot of it is I mean like we were talking true they said it's true true yeah true yeah caveats very true those two words are yeah yeah in there I mean if I'm in any of the James O'Keefe videos you know they're a lie if James O'Keefe has me with a bunch of ballots in my car, we know it's... Yeah, and you're driving a cab all of a sudden. Yeah, I'm driving a cab, you know, and I got all these ballots, and I'm speaking a Jamaican accent. Yes. Then yes, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I don't know if it's true. I mean, it was funny because he was tweeting out that she said something about how vote fraud voter fraud is uh like there's like the numbers of voter fraud are so minuscule it's like 0.0006 percent yeah and then he tweets out this stuff about her and voter fraud right and i'm wondering how big i i don't know how big voter fraud is i'm i that's something i have no idea i i've never met a person in my life that's like you know what i'm gonna do today i'm gonna go fucking vote seven times I've never met a person in my life that's like, you know what I'm going to do today? I'm going to go fucking vote seven times. I've never met that person.
Starting point is 00:39:31 The one thing, I mean, watching the video, just watching it, it's obviously highly edited. So, like, you can't say it's not an edited video. That doesn't take a lot of things away because you have to edit the video. You kind of have to edit, right, because it's got to be small. You don't know who the people are that are being covered up i think when i was so i was reading through people that are like i think newsweek that was digging into each piece of it today and like i don't know that they could verify everything because they weren't saying that this was necessarily false but they asked if that guy worked for who they said he worked for and i don't think they got
Starting point is 00:40:00 a response that said yes he verifiably works for this couple like these people or something so that's where it kind of gets butably works for these people or something. That's where it kind of gets... But why would, if someone was doing something that illegal, why would they be like, who are you, strange man with camera? Come look, I break law. I break law everywhere. What is James O'Keefe's deal? He just goes, I'm just going to figure out a fun conspiracy that's happening. He goes, how does he get into these things?
Starting point is 00:40:24 He gets a tip. I don't know. And then he goes, let's just get some cameras in there i don't know it's like a youtube prank show fused with like political exposes the problem is the twitter stuff the problem is the stuff where he actually did uncover executives or excuse me catch employees that were talking about how they make it so that conservative voices don't get heard. Yeah, which I believe 100%. It's 100%. 100%. It's real.
Starting point is 00:40:49 It's real. And whether or not it is top-down or whether or not the tools are available to employees and they act as activists, that's possible too. Right. The other thing too, I was reading about this. I think it's about ballot harvesting. And according to this article, it says that it's actually not illegal in minnesota but there have been propositions currently i think tulsi gabbard put something up to like have it be made illegal i think nationwide so like ballot harvesting is
Starting point is 00:41:13 not something i understand what the hell is ballot harvest explain ballot harvest i wish i could but as from what i read quickly about it certain workers who are not supposed to be paid by anyone which is part of like you're not supposed to be paid for this is where it gets muddy you're allowed to go collect ballots from people to then turn them in right but only three i think it can't be more than three right that's where it gets really yeah that's what i read and this guy had like a whole bag of them look at all the stuff i do on camera you for me with me. I'll show you my face. Stupid as that guy. I'll show you the ballot.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Something feels off about it, right? Something feels strange. It feels a little fake. He wants to go to jail. But it might be rigged. He might be the kind of guy that you hire to do something like this because he's a crazy guy who works for a cab company. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Interesting. And he doesn't give a fuck and he doesn't know there's a camera on him. He doesn't care. Maybe he doesn't know there's a camera he doesn't care maybe he doesn't know there's a camera on him and maybe what's edited it is this guy going you know what fuck trump i hope i'll fucking if i could wrote 30 times i'd vote to 30 times that we need to get him out of office right he's fucking racist and he's sexy he's a piece of shit you know he didn't pay any fucking taxes that fucking guy's always going off about socialism he's a fucking socialist look i got the 30 ballot i don't fucking cheat i'm a cheater and a liar i get paid i throw these away i watched that i was like what is this like what i mean people should watch it because it's interesting and so what is this? What is this? What is this? Yeah. I mean, this election is going to have problems.
Starting point is 00:42:48 It's going to be chaos. Chaos. That's why I'm in Texas. Yeah. You should move here before November 3rd. I'm locking myself in my studio. I'm doing an event where I go, I'm not leaving the studio until there's a president. Oh, will you be there for years?
Starting point is 00:42:59 Well, I hope not. But I'm doing, I'm going to lock myself in. I'm thinking it's going to be Pelosi. 48 hours. You think it's going to get that bad? Yeah, and she's going to do all of her press conferences from that very beauty salon where she didn't wear a mask. I think if the president doesn't accept the results, whatever, and there is a time period where it's not decided, she does become the default. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:19 She's the third person in charge. She's the Speaker of the House. That's how it works. That's real. Well, we need a landslide. We need whoever wins. We need someone to take Florida and Ohio early in the night. I don't know if it counts without the ballots.
Starting point is 00:43:33 If they're encouraging mail-in ballots. Here's what disturbs me. When one party wants mail-in ballots and the other party doesn't. I'm like, why do they want it? I don't know the answer to this. I'm just speculating. Why do the Democrats want it? And why does Trump not want it? Democrats are saying COVID answer to this right i'm just speculating why do the democrats want it and why does trump not want it democrats are saying covid's gonna keep people from voting
Starting point is 00:43:48 is it i don't believe it is i think that's wrong come on is it keeping people from buying groceries is it keeping people from going to jack-in-the-box yeah and i know people that these people hate trump so much it's like well then have that be your last act have that be your last earthly act dude how how beautiful would that be? Because all you've done, right, there you go. All you've done is say, this guy's ruining your life every day. Go and die and get rid of him. I wish there was someone to root for.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I know, there's no one to root for. I wish there was someone who just stood out as being this fucking perfect person that I really love. No, we don't have any of that. I wish it was Tulsi Gabbard. I'd fucking vote for her naked. I'd be out there coughing my mouth. I'm voting for her. Well, there were people that were interesting. Sanders was interesting because he didn't seem like he was in the system
Starting point is 00:44:36 like everybody else was. But it also seemed like maybe a lot of what he wanted to do never would have gotten done. I was interested to see if he could pull it off. When people were talking about what he wanted to do versus what he was talking about what he wanted to do i was like oh they're distorting your your voice they're distorting your narrative and when i had him on the podcast we talked for a while i'm like you're not crazy right you're just a good guy right who wants to do well for the working, and your idea is to take a small fraction,
Starting point is 00:45:06 less than a penny, of these speculation trades. Right. And then take the money off of that and dedicate it to social causes. Like, I'm in. Yeah. I mean, if that was what it was, I think a lot of people would have been in. But he's just one of those small group of politicians that doesn't get the airtime. Like, you gave him airtime.
Starting point is 00:45:24 But you rightly said he had to explain that in 30 seconds. Yes, under normal circumstances. But then I gave this tepid endorsement of him, and they used that with all the old jokes and shit that I said. He's homophobic, transphobic, racist, this, that, fucking everything. And they took him out. They took him out, and him out with their and then the fucking dnc all aligned together to get mayor pete and amy klobuchar and elizabeth warren
Starting point is 00:45:51 that's who they want all dive out they quit yeah and so that they handed biden would get the yeah it's the whole thing was dirty dnc is rigged this now like twice against him pretty much twice they did it but donna braile's book talks openly about it. Right. They did it twice. Dude, it's a dirty organization. They're both dirty. But Sanders was a little too nice.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yes. Trump just lit the Republican Party on fire. I mean, he went in there. He said, McCain's not a hero. I like people who didn't get captured. He went right at Jeb Bush. I mean, they were the political dynasty in the Republican Party. He just laid waste to them.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Low energy Jeb. Low energy Jeb just went in there. And Sanders was like, oh, these are my colleagues and I respect them. I'm like, that's not the way to do this. The reason why he did that is because that's who he really is. I know. He's not a bullshitter. He's not full of shit.
Starting point is 00:46:42 And that's why I liked him. I enjoyed talking to him, man. Yeah. I really did. But now he'll get to sit in Vermont. He'll write a bullshitter He's not full of shit And that's why I liked him I enjoyed talking to him I really did But now he'll get to sit in Vermont He'll write a book No one's gonna buy that book No one's gonna buy it But he can write it He can have a little ice cream
Starting point is 00:46:54 But if you want in the big game You gotta go on thing You gotta look at Klobuchar And go shut up you centrist bitch You don't even know who the president of mexico is then he has to go and just lay waste to everybody every time kamala talked he should have went cop that's what he should have did cop that's what trump would have done he needed to be the left trump like biden talks sanders goes this guy's dead he's he's in bed with credit card companies in Delaware he had the worst criminal
Starting point is 00:47:26 justice bill ever that guy's a corpse like that's what Sanders should have nicknamed everyone like Trump did corpse cop what's crazy is when there's corruption but they'll ignore it because it'll interfere with what they want like this Hunter Biden shit
Starting point is 00:47:41 bro this was Donald Trump Jr. And is Hunter the one that passed away or no? No, he's the one that's still alive. He's the one that took millions of dollars. Did he marry the wife of the brother? I hope so. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Something went wild there, right? Didn't something go wild, Jamie? Something went weird with the brother that died's wife and Hunter. I think. I could be wrong. Don't quote me on this. But the scandal is that he took a shit ton of money from Russian billionaires. Right?
Starting point is 00:48:13 Isn't that the scandal? Jamie's double Googling right now. Hold. Let's start with the brother, the wife of the brother. I could be wrong about this. Hunter Biden, father child with the woman. While dating brother's widow. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I mean, this is a wild family. Can I see a picture of this girl? Good point. She might have been hot as fuck. Well, Joe Biden is the one on the right. Okay. Hunter and Haley Biden. They broke up after nearly two years of dating.
Starting point is 00:48:44 She filed a paternity suit. Same month, Hunter Biden, 49, married Melissa Cohen after just six days of dating. Yeah, well, okay. Maybe he found the perfect girl after he knocked up this other chick. And this other chick he fucking hated, but he vowed to take care of the baby. But essentially, he's dating the brother's widow. People are messy. Sure.
Starting point is 00:49:04 People are messy. Sure. Listen, the brother's dead. Maybe he's in the brother's widow. That's interesting. People are messy. Sure. People are messy. Sure. Listen, the brother's dead. Maybe he's in love with the widow. Maybe it's a perfect relationship. Sounds good. I don't have a problem with that. I mean, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:49:13 It is strange. It's certainly salacious. It's odd that Biden is holding up children and sniffing them. That's odd. That is odd. He's a sniffer. The other thing that bothers me is how much did he get from some billionaire
Starting point is 00:49:27 he got money from a Russian billionaire I think it was like some very large amount of money he was involved in this energy company
Starting point is 00:49:33 they're all involved in this energy company they all find these little scams that nobody knows about and then eventually they come out like once every four years
Starting point is 00:49:39 election year but I think a lot of them were working for like this same energy company in the Ukraineraine that's involved with all of these problems yeah well i mean hillary clinton was involved with the russians
Starting point is 00:49:50 you know what's hilarious there's one meme it's a really good meme yeah here it is hunter biden received 3.5 million wire transfer from russian billionaire yeah okay he was briefed about sons and biden was briefed about sons involvement according Biden was briefed about sons involved according to Hunter Biden's barisma. Hunter Biden barisma? What does that mean? Oh, okay. Oh, the company's barisma. Joe Biden's son Hunter made money from Russia, China.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Okay. All right. I don't know. Maybe he earned the money. Right. I don't know. Maybe he earned the money. Right. As far as I know. But I just know that it's weird that the media is kind of ignoring it. Well, the media is 100% in the tank.
Starting point is 00:50:34 They don't want Trump winning. 90% of the media. 90% of the media. Except for Fox News and Candace Owens. Meanwhile. Those are the two media figures. Is she media now? You have.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Oh, Candace Owens is bigger than anyone. She is. She's on Facebook. She's got like 300 million views. I mean, two media figures. Is she media now? You have. Oh, Candace Owens is bigger than anyone. She is. She's on Facebook. She's got like 300 million views. I mean, she's crazy. Giant. I mean, she's and I gotta be honest with you. You can't not watch her. Whether you like her or not, she is very smart. She's very articulate.
Starting point is 00:50:56 She really knows how to talk. She knows how to talk. But every now and then she'll do something wild. She'll like, she'll do a GoFundMe for like Timothy McVeigh. But she still is. Just tossed his suit over Trump affair story after Fox News argues no responsible viewer takes Tucker Carlson seriously. Their defense was that
Starting point is 00:51:12 it's basically like parody almost. And that's why it's not news. Tucker Carlson is parody? Yeah. No. Yeah. His lawyer's defense of what they were saying was that. But this is a smart legal defense.
Starting point is 00:51:24 This is what they all do. This is what they all do. This is what they all do. That's a sneaky move. It's fun. It's the second public time I've heard in a lawsuit that Fox News has admitted they're not news, they're entertainment. Yeah, I think they kind of have to do that like wrestling does.
Starting point is 00:51:37 They have to say they're not really wrestling. I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. But they choose to. It's a smart move. Yeah. It's a little workaround. Did you see the thing where Tucker Carlson was playing all these videos of Chris Cuomo
Starting point is 00:51:49 talking to Michael Cohen, coaching him on what to say when he interviews him? Did not see that. Oh my God. Fox News, CNN just ignored the fuck out of it. They ignored it and pretended it didn't even happen. Right. And they didn't address it at all. And Fox News played it multiple times
Starting point is 00:52:07 over multiple nights. It is clearly Chris Cuomo talking to Michael Cohen and he is coaching him on what to say when he talks to him about the hush payments. It's crazy. But it's just like, I don't know why he would even do it. I don't know why they did that.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I don't like the idea that one of them is a governor and the other one's in the news. I think maybe he was friends with Michael Cohen and he was just trying to help him out as a friend. Let's just be honest. I'm going to be honest with you folks. If Tim Dillon was involved in some fucked up shit and I had an interview on my podcast,
Starting point is 00:52:42 what do I say? It was just you and me alone. I would coach you 100%. Yeah, absolutely. I would say, this is what you should say. Right. Yeah. Especially if I was trying to help you.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Right. Yeah. I understand that, but- If he's friends with that guy, I get it. I understand. The problem is, he's a broadcaster on CNN, which is the cable news network. What is it now? It's nothing. I mean, it's nothing. I mean,able News Network. Was. What is it now? It's nothing.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I mean, it's nothing. I mean, it's absurd. Yeah. Chris Cuomo is on there talking about he's got corona. I mean, they're doing like home videos. I'm like, what is not news? Here's another scandal. Here's another scandal.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Yeah. He pretended to have corona? He is. There's a little bit of the pretending to leave his basement. I'm pretty sure he had corona. Well, he said he cured it by chest exercise. I don't buy that. but here's another one there's a picture of him sitting at his desk holding a hundred pound dumbbell up in the air and bodybuilders are calling bullshit oh interesting
Starting point is 00:53:36 i didn't see that also because of the angle that he's holding now yeah chris cuomo is i'm italian i could say this he's a guinea. A lot of those guineas are stupid strong. They're monkey strong. I bet he is. A lot of them. And also very smart. There was a guy that used to run a sandwich shop near our house who could curl his own body weight
Starting point is 00:53:57 ten times. And nobody believed him, and this guy barely lifted weights. And he did it before a wrestling meet. He was like a big time wrestler in Newton South. and he wound up losing the wrestling meet it was like legend in the town because his arms were blown out because he made like 100 bucks on a bet showing people that he curls body weight 10 times i don't know if he's trying frank subs this is no he's fucking serious bro I'm serious, bro. Okay. This is where we get our news in America. No, there's a photo and he's wearing a t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:54:31 This is different. That's real. That's a real weight. Whether or not that weighs 100 pounds, it might weigh 100 pounds. I don't believe that he has a fake 100 pound weight. He's a big person. I think that guy's pretty large. He's a strong dude. I'm sure he's not i'm sure
Starting point is 00:54:46 the weight isn't fake that's the picture here's the thing i i saw these people that are complaining and saying it's not real and all this shit i listen you can do that that can be done people who think you can't do that are crazy. He's bigger than me. He's bigger than me, and there's a video of me on Instagram with a 92-pound kettlebell, and I'm cleaning it and pressing it 10 times over my head. Right. That guy's a lot bigger than me. Right. He could hold 100 pounds over his head and do it like that.
Starting point is 00:55:20 If I have a 100-pound dumbbell in my arm right now i could press it he's bigger than me he could do it some people are fucking strong yeah i don't have any problem with doing that it's when he does look at this challenge to chris cuomo prove you're not a liar prove you can actually lift that weight you're showing with see this guy just wants attention because you should know that there's people that are freak strong that could lift that i like frank's country store i'll throw in a thousand dollars the guy's name frank's country Because you should know that there's people that are freak strong that could lift that. Frank's Country Store. I'll throw in $1,000. That was the guy's name.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Frank's Country Store, Newton. It was in Newton. It wasn't Newton Upper Falls. Somewhere in Newton, Massachusetts. Newton Center. That's such a great Boston story where it's like the guy loses the team, loses the wrestling match. We always talk about him. We'd go buy subs there because we'd walk there from school.
Starting point is 00:56:04 We'd buy subs from Frank. Like, that's the guy. He could curl his own body weight 10 times. He was a tank. We always talk about him. We'd go buy subs there because we'd walk there from school. We'd buy subs from Frank. Like, that's the guy who could curl his own body weight 10 times. He was a tank. He's just a legend. He was just a fucking stacked little guinea. Right. Like this 5'7 guy who's like 5'7 wide. I don't mind people not liking Trump.
Starting point is 00:56:17 It's weird when they're angry. Like, I see Chris Cuomo. He's angry. They're angry. But isn't that his job? It shouldn't be. But it's entertainment. Like Tucker Carlson's entertainment, he's entertainment Cuomo a lot. He's angry. They're angry. But isn't that his job? It shouldn't be. But it's entertainment. Like Tucker Carlson's entertainment, he's entertainment on the other side.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yeah. But anyway, Tucker Carlson's been ruthless. Say what you like about Tucker Carlson. That guy is very good at shitting on people and being smug about it and being hilarious. So if you look at a lot of where he stands politically, he's not like a a corporate right-wing guy i mean i listen he's wealthy he's from a rich family blah blah blah but he actually seems to like find a lot of merit in some of the more socialist type programs like he talks about he balances his statements out very well balanced them out and like you'll you'll watch him and you'll go this guy doesn't seem like some radical lunatic but he's in that category where he's everyone's like oh he's a white
Starting point is 00:57:09 supremacist oh he's a racist right you don't even give him a chance nobody wants chance but this is this is how partisan we are how politically divided we are right when nobody wants to listen to anything that anybody says that even doesn't even agree with them at all. Right. There's a great fucking documentary from a few years back about the 1960s. And it is, I think it's called Bitter Enemies. I've talked about it before. It's Gore Vidal versus William F. Buckley. Yeah, Best of Enemies. Best of Enemies.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Best of Enemies, yeah. It's amazing. It's unbelievable. It's so good. Yeah. And you have this conservative and william f buckley who really seems like a cunt and you got gore vidal who's like my version of what a liberal should be that's what i like right an intelligent open-minded very well read very
Starting point is 00:58:00 articulate person right i love that debate because and then when gore vidal gets under william f buckley's skin and he says crazy shit to him and he says like yeah he says i'll sock you and yes some of the real fairy or something he calls him a fit but it's very dated like you'll stay plastered or something i'll sock you in your time yeah yeah yeah political cartoon yeah fight yeah but he was like obviously he lost his cool and he lost the debate because of that. Now we couldn't have a debate. We'd have to hide the location because there would
Starting point is 00:58:32 be riots outside. Everybody would hit fire alarms and shut down the thing. They'd be shooting fireworks into the debate stage. You can't even have a remotely controversial non-orthodox opinion anymore. And I hate to say this because i am a left-wing person yeah it is from the left right the left are the people that are
Starting point is 00:58:52 doing this for the most part the right might they might mock people on the left but they're not trying to shut down speech the right is now well the right used to do it they did it a lot in the 90s they did it a lot with art they did it a lot with people that were anti- do it. They did it a lot in the 90s. They did it a lot with art. They did it a lot with people that were anti-religion. They did it a lot like the Family Values. All those coalitions used to do it a lot. They used to do it a lot when a cartoon did something they didn't like.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Well, the left did that too, though, dude. Tipper Gore was the one who was trying to stop the rap music. Absolutely, but she was kind of an anomaly at that point. It was a lot of it was coming from the Christian right, but now all of that has been transferred to the left. Yeah, that's why it's so confusing. Primarily, it's transferred to the left. The left was supposed to be about like-
Starting point is 00:59:35 Yeah, tolerance. Yeah, open-minded views. I remember there was a, I forget the artist's name, but he had a piece called Piss Christ, and it was- Do you remember that? During Giuliani. Yes. Yes, I remember it. I forget the artist's name, but he had a piece called Piss Christ. Yes. Do you remember that? During Giuliani.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Yes. Yes, I remember it. It came to Boston because I remember- It was a crucifix submerged in urine. There is this Andres Serrano. It's a small plastic crucifix submerged in a glass tank filled with piss, with his own piss. And people were losing their fucking minds that this guy dunked a plastic statue in a bucket of piss. It was like pawning it off.
Starting point is 01:00:17 And it was like there was like civil war about this. It was like a fucking, it was a real big issue. And I want to say, I don't know, look at the date here, but I want to say this is like 87. 85, I think. 85, I don't look at the date here, but I want to say this is like 87. 85, I think. 85, 85. He was probably just like a bad artist. Yeah, this was post high school for me, and I was still trying to figure out what made sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:38 I was like- This was your first. I was just getting out. So 87 means I was 20, which means I was just getting out of the house. I was just getting out of the house when I was 20, and I was living with my friends. And I was kind of a loser who was also a winner. Like I was a martial arts winner, but I was a loser as far as like if you looked at me on paper, like what are you doing with your life, kid?
Starting point is 01:00:59 Like, oh, I don't know. It's a problem. Yeah, it was a problem. And I was trying to figure out what made sense, and I heard about this, and I went to see it. And I also went to see a Yoko Ono art exhibit. One of the Yoko Ono art pieces. Yoko Ono, she had a block of wood with nails in it, and there was a box of nails and a hammer. And she encouraged people to participate in the art.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Like she wanted you to pick up a nail and knock it into the wood. Wow. And that was, that was her art. She's like, I want to encourage participation. And I had a bit about it back then. I was like,
Starting point is 01:01:36 if you want to encourage participation, take the nail, put it in your forehead. I know there'll be a fucking line around the block. There'll be a line of people to get it. Yeah. This is when I was an open miker. That was one of that's so funny you look at that and it's so bad but you certain comedy specials will be remembered like that oh yeah certain things yeah certain comedy specials
Starting point is 01:01:53 they'll be like oh that was our nail moment yeah don't try that we've already figured out the art form you don't need to reinvent it with no audience redo it yeah there's no need the um yeah i mean it's crazy do you know everybody's, and this is probably overinflated, all that Spotify stuff. Is this just complete fodder? They have literally said nothing to me about it. Zero. It's never come up. Now, is there someone at Spotify that's complaining about the Abigail Schreier episode?
Starting point is 01:02:18 I'm sure. Right. I'm sure there's someone that's complaining about it. Is it a transphobic episode? It's not. They're wrong. They're not. It has nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 01:02:26 It has to do with the fact that human beings are actually malleable. We all know that. That's why cults exist. Right. There's a thought process now that if you're talking at all about trans people, you have to be 100% supportive. You can never question whether or not children should be allowed to transition, babies, hormone blockers for prepubescent children. All this is madness. Here's the question.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Are there some people who are horribly sad that they transitioned and regret it terribly? The answer is yes. Are there some people that are very happy they transitioned and regret it terribly? The answer is yes. Right. Are there some people that are very happy they transitioned and they're much more happy in the gender of their choice, how they feel, than the gender of their birth? The answer is also yes. Right. Because people, they vary wildly.
Starting point is 01:03:19 What she's talking, what Abigail's talking about in her book, Irreversible Damage, is large clusters of kids who are mostly kids that are socially awkward. Many of them are autistic. Many of them have never had any praise at all in their life. And they transition and they get all this praise from people. Right. Because it is, right now, it's in vogue. It's a social contagion amongst that subset of people.
Starting point is 01:03:41 And they're at high risk for, they're easily influenced. Yes. That was the problem. The word contagion was one of the things they had an issue with. They called it deeply transphobic. It's not transphobic. Because contagion is also used to talk about diseases.
Starting point is 01:03:56 But that's not, right. It's language. Yeah, it is language. And this is the problem, is that they look at this and they say, this is openly transphobic it is not transphobic it's not transphobic no it's not i think there's got to be space for conversation and i think that a lot of this you know rigid um you know allegiance to i mean listen we all know
Starting point is 01:04:20 that trans people are are in many cases are much happier when they transition and they have better, productive, fulfilling lives. Everybody, I don't think anybody, like there are people that don't want that, but they're probably a minority. But here's the thing. Probably a small minority of people. The spectrum of human beings and their happiness is so fucking broad. Yeah. That to say that all heterosexual people are happy or all homosexual people are happy or all trans people are happy is nonsense. Not true.
Starting point is 01:04:44 It's crazy. Right. So when you talk about a particular issue where the uptick of girls transitioning, it's called rapid onset gender dysphoria. Right. This is psychological. Psychologists are talking about this like it's a real issue because there's an uptick of several thousand percent over the last decade.
Starting point is 01:05:00 They're looking at this and they're trying to figure out what the fuck is going on. Right. So when that does happen yeah if you can't discuss it you you you we've found ourselves in this terrible place where there's no longer nuance there's no longer informed discussion and you have decided that a subject is off bounds or out of boundaries now if people think that i should have trans people on and talk to them about it, I'm happy to do that. Right. But that's not what they're saying.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Right. Now, I don't know what the actual conversation has been from Spotify talking to these employees. But if these employees are listening, I would tell you emphatically, I am not in any way anti-trans. Not in any way. In any way. I am 100% for people being able to do whatever they want, as long as it doesn't harm other people. If you choose to do anything, whatever you want, whatever your personal choice is, I am happy if you're happy. I don't care. I'm 100% open-minded.
Starting point is 01:06:06 But if you say that I can't talk about something when a woman wrote a whole book and researched it deeply and is talking about not not just these children themselves that have grown up and then gotten out of school and then realize they've made a horrible mistake and it's irreversible that's the name of the book irreversible damage right we can't discuss this look i had a friend who reached out to me and was saying thank you because my daughter has friends and four of them just decided they're trans together and they're all awkward and I've been trying to tell her that this is probably statistically not even possible, that they would all be trans like this, that this is, there might be something else. And then they read this book or they hear about this conversation and without even looking into it, they just decided that it's transphobic.
Starting point is 01:06:42 It's not transphobic to say that some people will regret transitioning it's just a part of being a person right people look people are so malleable they're so easily influenced and for us to deny that doesn't do anybody any any good anybody any server so this is the main issue they had with that you know this is the apparently this is the main problem they had was this one particular episode and i'm sure they've had issues with other episodes as well but like i said before like we're i'm talking off the top of my head and a lot of times i'm saying shit that i don't even mean because i'm saying it because this is a fucking podcast and if you
Starting point is 01:07:19 have a problem with people saying terrible shit and you work for spotify maybe you should listen to some of the lyrics right okay because some of the lyrics and some of the terrible shit and you work for Spotify, maybe you should listen to some of the lyrics. Right. Okay? Because some of the lyrics and some of the fucking music that you guys play over and over and over again makes my shit pale in comparison. Pale. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:34 If you're listening to some rap music right now, and I'm not anti-rap, I love rap music. I'm fucking saying it all. Do whatever. Go back and listen to NWA. Right. Go back and listen to someWA Right Go back and listen to like Some of the early shit
Starting point is 01:07:47 Right Go back and listen to Ice-T Cop Killer When the body count days Right Yeah it's wild Woo A lot of rap is not female forward
Starting point is 01:07:54 Woo Listen I'm a fan man I fucking love rap music I'm a big fan Look I met Willie D From the Ghetto Boys Recently when I did gigs in Houston I was like a little kid
Starting point is 01:08:03 In a candy store Right I'm a huge Ghetto Boys fan Of, I was like a little kid in a candy store. Right. I'm a huge ghetto boys fan. I love rap music, but it's, it's a standard. If we're going to apply a standard, it is a,
Starting point is 01:08:11 it's a type of art and talking shit is also a type of art. You might not like that type of art because it seems too much like a real statement. Right. Sometimes it is a real statement and sometimes it's just talking shit. Yeah. But just fun is in deciphering, which is which.
Starting point is 01:08:25 And right. I mean, half the fucking time that you and I are talking, if you took what we say out of quote, which is one of the things they did with the Bernie Sanders thing, they took things and put them in quotes. And some of them were so ridiculous. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:35 But that, that is what people do when they're trying to discredit someone. And it's what they're doing is they're, they're, they're not being honest. This is not, it's not an honest take it's not a it's not a real honest take on who a human being is this denial of nuance it's a denial of all the complexities that make a human being it's like
Starting point is 01:08:57 deciding like you said this and you said megan mccain you know right so you know uh fuck these tits right you're a bad person you're a bad person i did not mean she had a baby with her dad it's certainly possible but i didn't mean it but that this is i get it if you're a 23 year old woke kid yeah and you know you're working for this company you think you're gonna put your foot down well isn't it just in the beginning of tech everybody that got into tech it was like nerds it was woke people that are like right but here's listen me on the outside reading these fucking articles yeah like oh my god spotify censoring rogan spotify is doing this but it's not happening spotify has said nothing listen to me nothing they haven't said
Starting point is 01:09:36 anything to my manager they haven't said anything to me they've said nothing right they've apparently had meetings but they have a lot of meetings right they have meetings about all sorts of shows right they have meetings about the music they have they have meetings about they have people that have problems especially in this day and age look it's a great company they're open-minded they treat their employees very well they let them have discussions about things and i don't know what these discussions are like i don't know what happens i really don't but in terms of like them silencing me zero right there's been nothing right there's been nothing yeah and then well the new thing i was roe v wade right with the new supreme court justice this is a big deal what it was always
Starting point is 01:10:14 interested me about that lady has like 80 kids she's got a lot of children and make she just wants she's a catholic woman who likes being on her back and god love her and she's a smart judge and spread that seed she loves she loves christ and her husband and babies and babies and she's adopted some of them are adopted yeah she brought them in she flew them in listen yeah you know god bless her yeah abortion is a fucking it's a weird conversation weird one you know why because it's a it's a particularly human subject right where it's like a messy one where like i am 100 in favor for a woman having a right to choose let's just get that out of the way right away i'm 100 pro-choice right but when it's like nine months old like what what age like six months i'm i'm five months
Starting point is 01:10:57 i'm in favor of abortion four months up until 18 years old up until up until they start attending meetings at Spotify and complaining. That's when I think you should be able to abort your kids. But anybody who says you are anti-abortion. Yeah. Okay. Like, okay. What if it's two cells? Right.
Starting point is 01:11:15 What if the process is the same people that are against stem cell research? They're against any type of, you know, contraception in many cases. Maybe not, but let's generalize. Yeah. No, but they are. Sometimes, sure. A lot of people that are hardcore anti-abortion are like, we shouldn't be doing anything.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Right. Condoms are no good. Birth control is no good. Those people are crazy. They're crazy. Those people are crazy. They're wild, but again- But also the late-term abortion people are crazy, too.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Those are crazy people, too. That's a baby. That is a baby. That baby's alive. Yeah. If you took it out of the body, it would be alive. That's crazy. That's a weird one, man. That baby is alive. Yeah. And if you took it out of the body, it would be alive. That's crazy. That's a weird one, man.
Starting point is 01:11:46 It's very strange. But people will take a hardline ideology party stance. They're like, I am left wing. I believe in abortion rights no matter what. No matter what. And if you say up till eight months, what do you think about eight months? Yeah. What do you think about nine months?
Starting point is 01:12:00 Can't do that. Can't do that. It's weird. But some people believe in that. Yeah. And it's such a human issue because there's so many things going on there. Roe v. Wade, if it's overturned, goes to the states. Is that really possible?
Starting point is 01:12:17 I guess it's- Is that really possible? I mean, it could be, theoretically. You're going to make women carry rape babies? I don't know, but here's what would happen. I think it would go back to the states, right? So it wouldn't be a ban on abortion. It would just make it a states' rights decision.
Starting point is 01:12:29 So there would be abortion in still most American states, which, again, I don't agree with. I think it should be available in all 50 states. I think those people want to cut off federal funding, any type of federal funding for it. Is it available in every state right now? I believe so, yeah. Federally, it has to be available, right?
Starting point is 01:12:41 I believe so, yes, yeah. That is what Roe v. Wade stands for. Yes, so what happens is if they get rid of that, then states would vote on it and states would decide what the appropriate, they would have to make their laws. See, the problem is what if there's an 18-year-old girl and she, abortion in the United States is legal, 73 case, abortion is legal in all states, every state has at least one abortion clinic, there you go. Right. But here's the thing. Like, if you make it the state's rights and a girl just turns 18 and the law comes into place and all abortion gets shut down, she doesn't have any money.
Starting point is 01:13:14 She's fucked. And she's fucked. She's pregnant. Fucked up. She doesn't know what to do. And also if she's too poor to afford to go to the state where you can get an abortion. Right. Which she might never be able to go to it in her state if it's far away.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Exactly. It's very tough. It's tough. I mean, it's one of those issues where I think that we're never going to have everyone on the same page. We just have to realize that. There's issues in America. We're never going to come together 100% on that. Yeah. america we're not we're never going to come together we're never going to come together 100 on that yeah as long as you still have people with a very kind of religious view of when life
Starting point is 01:13:51 begins yeah because you can't argue with somebody who says if life begins the minute that you have conception then stem cell research which is very beneficial uh to people the good news is that stem cell research is advanced to the point where they don't have to do that anymore. Well, the good news is two people, I think, are getting smarter and realizing that they can't legislate things based on a book that was written 2,000 years ago
Starting point is 01:14:12 or whatever. I mean, you hope that that's the case. But now, you know, now they're legislating from, you know, they're writing the books as we speak. They're writing the new religions as we speak. So this lady that Trump wants to nominatey connie barrett what is her deal catholic uh judge only been uh judged for three years like a yeah but it's i think she's only on the district court for three years or something she's uh
Starting point is 01:14:35 he want he likes her she's a traditionalist catholic uh the anti-abortion people dig her i mean although in ann coulter doesn't think she's conservative enough. So it's like it's a weird mix out there of like she's a woman. So it's very tough for people to – well, they are slamming her now. They're slamming her because she has two black kids, which is pretty disgusting, that she adopted from Africa, which is pretty heinous. That they're writing all these things about, oh, she's still a racist or let me tell you. And it's like you're going at her family. It's so grotesque that they're doing that. Yeah, that's very heinous that they're doing that.
Starting point is 01:15:06 It's grotesque. She's obviously, if she's got that many kids, she's obviously a person who cares about children. She cares about children. This is what I don't understand. I don't understand why you're trying to make this woman into a monster. But their argument on it. I can't help it because they want someone.
Starting point is 01:15:22 First of all, they want Biden to win. And they want someone to come in that's going to be nominated by a Democrat. Well, my opener has a great joke about that. This guy, Dan Carney, he basically says that like... What happened? He basically said, he's like, Biden's getting lowered into the ground
Starting point is 01:15:36 a day after the inauguration. He's got three weeks. It's President Kamala. You're voting for Kamala. You really are. So he made a good point there. So it's like Biden's like, Biden's going to spend a few months in the oval office a couple photo ops and then
Starting point is 01:15:48 kamala's getting in and you're going to jail yeah he just wants to get it on the books yeah i won yeah i really did it and then face plant done yeah balance off the hardwood floors kamala's coming in and then everybody yeah, tur, tur, tur. And then she's going to Yas Queen her way all over and lock everyone up. And you know what? So what? Maybe we need that. Maybe we all need to go to jail.
Starting point is 01:16:12 I'm open. Maybe that's the only way we turn this country around. Maybe I'm open to it. We have to go so far crazy people on the left that we come back to the middle. Maybe everyone's so angry at Trump, it'd be a good time to take the crazy train on the left-hand side. She might put more people in jail than Trump. Oh, she would. Yeah. Who she has. Yeah. Correct. Who she has. Yeah. Maybe like everyone's so angry at Trump, it'd be a good time to take the crazy train on the left-hand side. She might put more people in jail than Trump. Oh, she would.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Yeah. Who she has. Yeah. Correct. Who she has. Yeah. Yeah. Not only that, withholds evidence.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Oh, yeah. Shady prosecutor. Oh, kept people in jail after they were supposed to be released to use them as cheap labor for the state, fight wildfires. I've heard one good thing recently is that she's into decriminalizing marijuana. Woo! I'm voting for you, baby. There we go.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Let's do it. Come on, Kamala. Come on. She's coming around. And as far as vice presidents, she'll be the hottest. She'll be into criminalizing tweets. She's the hottest vice president. She'll be into criminalizing Facebook statuses.
Starting point is 01:17:00 You think so? No. Who knows? I get really worried about what could happen with big tech if they just, you know, are allowed to run amok. Run amok. Well, Trump hasn't done anything to stop him. Nothing. What has he done?
Starting point is 01:17:15 Not much. I don't know what he can do. I mean, I think he did a very anemic week thing where he was like, you can now try to institute some appeals process if you get deplatformed, but it doesn't have any teeth. These are private companies. They can do what they want. So the real debate is like are they public utilities? Are they private companies?
Starting point is 01:17:31 I don't know the answer to that. I'm not smart enough to figure out the pros and cons of either. But I just know that when you have such a small three or four companies, these motherfuckers have more power than Carnegie, Rockefeller, all of the people. I mean these people have access to your thoughts. Look at this. Judge blocks Trump's administration's ban on new TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores. They tried to do that. Overstepped authority with TikTok ban.
Starting point is 01:17:53 But the TikTok thing is slightly different because we're not talking about TikTok banning anybody. TikTok will take anybody. They're not banning anybody. Right. What TikTok is doing is they are taking information from you at an astonishing rate yes like they had an engineer back engineer the software and he said this is the worst violation of privacy features i've ever seen ever in any application right like it's maddening it's crazy it's following you but let me ask you a question if they looked at u.s companies aren't they doing – and I'm not saying that China should have our information, but aren't Google and Facebook – aren't they doing the same thing?
Starting point is 01:18:29 This is one step up for Apple, and I'm very happy that Apple did this. Yeah. Apple just stepped up recently, and now Apple is going to make it so that you have to – pull this up because I don't want to butcher this because this is actually pretty important. Facebook is furious about this because it'll limit the amount of ads. You have to sign off on whether or not they can sell your data. Okay. Whereas Facebook is saying this is going to cut our money in half. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:01 If you give people the option, you say, do you want Facebook to be able to sell your data? And you're like, fuck yeah, sell it! No one's going to say that. Most people are going to, if you have to click yes or no, they're going to say no. But do we believe them that that's the only way they're getting our data? Look at this. App ad tracking. iOS 14 will give users the option to decline app ad
Starting point is 01:19:19 tracking. But no, it's not the only way, but this is a big deal. It's a big step. So scroll up, please. So a new version of iOS wouldn't be the same without a bunch of security and privacy updates. Apple on Monday announced a ton of new features that bake into iOS 14. Expected out later this year with the release of new iPhones and iPads that it will use. It will allow users to share your approximate location with apps instead of your precise location. It'll allow apps to take a rough location if you're identifying precisely where you are. Another option users will have is when they give over their location.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Okay, but, but, but, but, but. I want the, oh, wait a minute. Camera and mic recording. Here is it. It will also get a camera and microphone recording indicator on the status bar. Oh, my God. Is that what that light is? Then someone's been recording me all day long. Shit. This is what I mean. If you have the AirPods on, it pops on the status bar. Oh my God, is that what that light is? Then someone's been recording me all day long.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Shit. This is what I mean. If you have the AirPods on, it pops on usually too. Dude, they're just recording me. This is what I mean. All day long. Could be. Motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:20:13 I'm talking shit about people too. Here's like, would you pops up, I guess. Pal about would like permission to track you across the apps and websites owned by other companies wow i just think that yeah obviously opt out but i just think it's like data has become what it's they say more valuable than oil i mean they're gonna find a way to harvest that data from you whether you're consenting or not i don't know if that's the case they have up until now but if if apple can figure out a way because it doesn't benefit them if these apps harvest the data.
Starting point is 01:20:47 What it benefits them is if the apps give them a piece of the pie when you sign up. And there's some apps that now are requiring subscription on their website. They'll probably just start giving people a better deal on certain things if they share their data. I mean, that will enable people to go,
Starting point is 01:21:04 hey, I want to save a few bucks. I don't care if you, you know. 100%. That's probably the direction they're going. Well, there's a great- They're not going to give up these billions and billions of dollars of selling. But it's not whether or not they give up. Right.
Starting point is 01:21:14 If Apple cuts them out of it, and then everybody has a choice. You can get a Google phone, get an Android phone, and then you just give away all your information for free. get an Android phone, and then you just give away all your information for free. Or Apple institutes these new privacy laws or privacy features, and you get to decide who tracks you. You get to decide whether or not they can use your information and sell it. You get to decide whether or not you get ads sent to you.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Right, right. If Apple does that, I'll commit to them forever. Right. Your data is a commodity that you never really signed off on, and you didn't even realize. Look, there's benefits to it, right? Like if your phone knows how many minutes it takes for you to get home, you just look at your phone and it says, Tim, you'll be home in 22 minutes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:57 It's like, oh, okay, great. Right. But how does it know that? Right. Because it's tracking you. Right. Right? If your phone knows what you like and where you're going or
Starting point is 01:22:05 what's on your calendar where there's certain conveniences to it tracking you right and then the trade-off for that is that you lose all you know privacy yeah yeah but the trade-off that's positive is like say if you go to a website and it recommends you an ad and the ad is like some things you're into right you know maybe you've been looking for a nice yeti tumblr and it recommends it you're like oh i think all of you know, maybe you've been looking for a nice Yeti Tumblr and it recommends it. And you're like, oh. I think all of it ends up being okay if you always trusted the government, if you always trusted the federal government.
Starting point is 01:22:31 But it's not the government. Well, but. This is companies. Yeah, but there's government people that are using that information, 100%. But that is not the real problem. The real problem is government, is companies rather, like Facebook, are literally making hundreds of billions of dollars off of your data. Right.
Starting point is 01:22:49 And you're like, well, what are you providing? You're providing a way that I get addicted? Right. A way that I'm just arguing with my grandma about Trump? They want to keep you on the needle. That's what they want. But there's an argument to be made that this is a commodity that no one knew was a commodity until it was too late. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Yeah. And the cat was already out of the bag. Yeah. It's too big. It's a big thing. It's a big thing. Yeah. It's a gigantic thing.
Starting point is 01:23:17 And if a company comes along like Apple and says, you know what? You shouldn't be allowed to do this. If you want to give away your privacy right you should have a little box you check on every little app that you saw and then if that comes along i will be a fucking loyal apple right customer for life i just think whether it's the government or whether it's private corporations the whole fear here is that malevolent forces or bad actors get a hold of this data right they do they do and so that is the major problem,
Starting point is 01:23:46 whether it's intelligence agencies, whether they're keeping tabs on you for a reason. Snowden uses Signal. Right. Do you know what that is? I don't know what it is. Listen, iOS is far more secure than SMS, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:24:00 But iOS, whether it's iMessage, iMessage is more secure than SMS. If you have a Google phone, unless you're using WhatsApp, you're sending it a regular text message. What is this? Speak freely. Signal. This is what Snowden recommends. And the thing about it is it's encrypted, you to me, and it doesn't go to a third party. So iOS, if you have an iMessage it goes to the Apple server Signal does not so Signal, if you and I are sending messages to each other on Signal and you can set it so that your message
Starting point is 01:24:32 self-destructs in two minutes there's different things you can do but it's not going somewhere else where someone else can intercept it it's all encrypted SMS, if you have an Android phone I have an Android phone and I have an Apple phone. I just have an iPhone.
Starting point is 01:24:46 My iPhone is iMessage, but occasionally like the green text message. Those green text messages, anybody can pick up. Right. And they're also disgusting on the phone. They look horrible. It's vomit colored. They don't look that bad when you have the night mode on. No, they do.
Starting point is 01:24:59 I don't mind them. Why do you have an Android? Is it to fill what the poor people feel like? I like to have both operating systems. Interesting. Because't look that bad look at that green tim pool has an android he sends me android i would say i look at that green and i i'm reminded of sewage i'm reminding of golfing yeah maybe a nice pool table green green cloth yeah perhaps i ios is more secure it's more secure in that regard like i iOS is more secure. It's more secure in that regard.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Like iMessage is more secure. The thing about iMessage that's superior, there's a couple things. One, the big one is pictures. If you send me a picture in iMessage, it's a big, high-resolution picture. If you send me a video, it's a nice, high-resolution video. And you can send it to me through AirDrop, and it's in perfect quality. Right. If you send me a fucking video through a Google phone, it comes out looking like a flip phone from the late 90s right it's so bad yeah i i've sent it to people i'm like oh my god i have a one of them uh notes a galaxy
Starting point is 01:25:56 note it's a beautiful phone it's like beautiful screen high resolution the camera the video is amazing yeah but if i text it to somebody- It's bad. It looks fucking dog shit. Galaxy cameras, like a lot of the Android cameras, are better than iPhone cameras. They're not better. Okay. They're just great. They're very good. They're really good.
Starting point is 01:26:13 But so is this. Everything's great now. They're all great. Sony makes ridiculously good cameras on their phones. They have an Xperia. I think it's an Xperia 2 two one or one two i think it's called i forget what it is but uh they have like amazing video stabilization and all these different like their cameras are off the charts and if you're a photographer the sony ones allow you to get in
Starting point is 01:26:36 there and tweak shit and so the samsung ones you can do a lot of tweaking and fucking with the settings and samsung has incredible zoom like Like they have this Galaxy S20 Ultra and it has this crazy zoom on it, man. Yeah, you can shoot movies on a lot of those and the iPhone. Amazing. And the Galaxy also has a 5,000 milliamp battery. So it's like the battery will last you forever.
Starting point is 01:26:59 But you're still sending text messages. They haven't figured out an encrypted version of a messenger. So unless you have friends, you've got to talk them into getting WhatsApp or you've got to talk them into using Signal. It's like, why can't they get that shit together? And they don't even have an ability to transfer data. Like you can't send me a picture through Bluetooth. Like if you have an Android phone and I have an iPhone, you can't send me a picture through Bluetooth. Like if you have an Android phone and I have an iPhone,
Starting point is 01:27:29 you can't send me a picture, not native at least. I mean, there might be applications that are after the fact now. Yeah. They're just not quite there yet. They're not there yet. But I still feel like it's just a system of control that is going to be more and more omnipresent. Here's the other thing I should say. When I have my Samsung phone, my texts are not green. I can make my text any color I want. and more omnipresent here's the other thing i should say when i have an if my samsung phone
Starting point is 01:27:45 um my texts are not green i can make my text any color i want okay it's totally customizable oh interesting on my phone you're texting me yeah i've only ever seen the green ones you've only seen them come to you correct that's because i i message they with the they make you look like shit if you send a green text they know people people hate it. They know comics like you have bits about how poor you look. I mean, it's disgusting. Yeah. It's weird that Google hasn't figured that out, that Android hasn't figured out a way to make a version of iMessage that works on iMessage.
Starting point is 01:28:18 It's like, I guess Apple has it locked down. They want it locked down. Yeah. That seems to be what they want. They want you in that walled garden. That seems to be the issue now is that you can't do anything without being in business with some of these companies,
Starting point is 01:28:32 whether it's Facebook, YouTube, Google, Amazon. You have those five companies that run tech. You've got to be in business with them if you want anything. You've got to be on the grid. You don't really have too much of an option. Now they're instituting this thing saying, oh, well, you can opt out of the data. But I guarantee they find a workaround with that.
Starting point is 01:28:48 They find a workaround. And that's the real issue. And then you start thinking about like what kind of – now they want to get rid of cars. They want everybody to be in fleets of self-driving cars. This is something that people want. I mean Gavin Newsom has said let's phase out cars by 2035. Well, he said phase out gasoline cars.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Well, of course. New gasoline cars. But he's a fucking idiot. Yeah. The fact that they're doing this in the middle of like... Pandemic. Their education system is falling apart.
Starting point is 01:29:12 These poor kids were getting a terrible education before. Right. Their top priority should be fixing their education system. And rebuilding. How much time are they wasting putting together this thing,
Starting point is 01:29:23 this virtue signaling thing where you're trying to make, ban cars that, new cars that are gasoline cars by 2035? Yeah, their whole argument is now that the fires are here and people realize that it's a problem, blah, blah, blah. That's true. There's a political will. But listen, you got to fix what you haven't fixed first. Agreed. You know, I mean.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Well, the other thing is, you know, they pass a carbon tax in New York City and Uber started costing a lot more money. A lot of people in New York City used Uber pools to get to work because the subway in New York, which is an old legacy system, doesn't always run efficiently. So people that were going to work in Ubers and especially the Uber pool feature, it was very cheap. They instituted a carbon tax and a congestion tax. All of a sudden, the Uber rates went up. And now people were unable – couldn't afford to get to work. So it's like, yes, you're helping the environment, but you're damning people in that respect. Here's my favorite thing they just passed. They're allowing transgender inmates to go to the prison of the gender they choose. So violent male sex offenders who decided they're trans
Starting point is 01:30:23 can go to women's prisons. That's going to work out well. There's no way that's going to be bad. No. No one will abuse that. Bridget Phetasy sent me a thread on Twitter where this journalist goes over all of the issues that they've had with people turning trans in Canada and doing this and all the horrible people that have gotten into female prisons. Abusing it.
Starting point is 01:30:48 And the difference between female prisons and male prisons is about how much more violent male prisons are and how horrific. Aren't female prisons violent? Barely. Well, that is disappointing. Yeah. I see some of the women going in there, and I'd like to believe that they're violent.
Starting point is 01:31:03 I think some of them are not violent. Damn it. I just want equality, Joe. I just want women. I just want equality of violence. It's not going to happen. I want women out there beating the shit out of each other. Throwing each other.
Starting point is 01:31:18 It's mostly pillow fights. Is it really? Are they just talking shit about each other? Just waiting for guys to come and fuck them. Yeah, that's girls' prison. It's just pillow fights and cattiness. It's all OnlyFans cats. What percentage has OnlyFans grown during the pandemic?
Starting point is 01:31:38 Massively. Well, everyone's become a whore. I mean, everyone, people that were one or two steps I didn't know how many people were one step away from legitimate prostitution I have told several of my friends that are better looking than me be a whore like do it because there's no jobs
Starting point is 01:31:55 Christina Paziski was explaining this to me her and Tom are moving out here by the way and they were out here the other day we went to dinner and she was telling me that Aaron Carter is that his name the singer with the tattoos on his face. He has a little meth thing. He's got an OnlyFans account, and he jerks off in front of people. Well, listen.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Makes a lot of money, apparently. Good for him. His career has been not great. She said it in front of my kids, though. She's like, J and his D. That's what she said in front of my kids. Yeah. So he's J and his D.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Yeah, on OnlyFans. And I'm like, well, no one knows what that means. Well, I mean, it's one of the only jobs left. My 12-year-old's eyes are lighten up. It's, listen, it's, you're either a cam girl or you're instigating a race war.
Starting point is 01:32:36 Those are the jobs. Those are your two jobs in America. There it is. Oh, Aaron Carter's now doing porn. Former child pop star recently joined Cam Soda. Oh, same shit is now doing porn. Former child pop star recently joined Cam Soda. Oh, same shit. So he was a former child pop star.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Well, they're real new. Yeah, Aaron Carter. I mean, these face tattoos. I mean, you see everybody in L.A. with them. A lot of these young kids have them. Yeah, a lot. Well, not everyone, but a lot of these kids in L.A. have them, and they just. Okay, so you had an OnlyFans.
Starting point is 01:33:04 His brother was in the Backstreet Boys. Can you not do porn on OnlyFans? You can do whatever you want, really, but most people use it for... $27 a month. Look at him holding his pecker. People get on OnlyFans because they want to reason discourse. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What is this?
Starting point is 01:33:17 $72? Oh, for three months. What is the most a gal can charge? You can get a lot. I've seen people then explaining how this whole system works for them. It's not pyramid scheme, but if I got you guys to both sign up for a certain amount
Starting point is 01:33:32 of time, I'd get shares of your money too. What? It's like incentives for growing. Really? It's a pyramid scheme. So if he got a bunch of his other buddies to J their D's in front of people. That's what pimps used to say to hookers. They'd be like, find a few of your friends. this is jizz lane maxwell there's no difference he's got 120 except this is yeah if you feel like wow how many fans does he have it doesn't tell you that part i guess
Starting point is 01:33:53 oh he's private and details and keeps it private not safe for work content 1200 1200 that's it i mean this is uh i don't know if this is better than doing cameo okay well let well, let's think... Some people are doing that, too. It's not Cameo. So he's basically making somewhere in their neighborhood a 30 grand a month. Jay and his D. Sure. $1,200? $2.27?
Starting point is 01:34:14 Not bad. It's not that bad. It's not bad. It's better than working. Listen, if he had to work a job, but he had that thing on his face, and people are like, you're the guy who Jay's his D for $27 a month.
Starting point is 01:34:26 They get mad. Go back to doing that. Hey, shut up. I'm just trying to work. But it's amazing how that during the pandemic, because everyone's home. Nobody's doing anything. I guess everybody's just jerking off.
Starting point is 01:34:35 He also sings and plays guitar in the nude. He does Q&As. Dancing, fan Q&As, other sultry activities that you'd expect. I love that he's playing guitar in the nude. He's still trying to hold on to it. You know what I mean? He's like, I got a new song. And everyone's like, buddy.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Let me see your asshole. Yeah. That's not what this is. Spread your cheeks. He's like, I wrote this about. Yeah, no one cares. Can you fit the neck in your asshole, please? I paid money.
Starting point is 01:34:58 I paid American money for this. Yeah, it'd be very disappointing to pay for his OnlyFans. And then he's strumming a guitar. Maybe the music's really good. It's not. How do you know? I'm guessing it's not, Joe. He throws a fit in court after ordered to forfeit guns. 500 of them
Starting point is 01:35:14 he was forced to. Oh my god! A result of his sister, what does it say? Scroll back up. Sister winning a restraining order case. Oh, well that's not good. He's threatening his fucking sister. A lot of these people that get famous very young, it's a very it's a rough road it is unmanageable yeah i don't know anybody's managed it yeah miley cyrus was on the podcast a couple weeks ago and i told her i said you you've done it about as good as you could do it right she's a she's got a lot of barriers up though you tell you can tell
Starting point is 01:35:42 she's been through it you can't get that famous that young. She's 12 years old playing arenas. How the fuck? It's crazy. Yeah, man. I mean, I just, who, and it was funny, her talking about on the show that, was it her mom or her grandma was saying, well, it's better than her being in LA doing drugs. Like, what?
Starting point is 01:36:03 Right. Yeah. Why is that the choice? Like, what are you talking, or better than being back LA doing drugs. Like, what? Right. Why is that the choice? Like, what are you talking? Or better than being back home doing drugs. Well, I guess they felt like this is her ticket out of the life. But it was never going to be her life.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Her dad was a famous country music star. Her voice is so harsh. She's got a great, she's a phenomenal talent. Oh, my God. She's amazing. I mean, her talking voice is so harsh. Yeah. It sounds like mine a little. It's rougher. Wow. Oh, yeah. No. Yes. Yeah. It sounds like mine a little. It's rougher.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Wow. Oh, yeah. No. Yes. Then mine? You want to play it? Let's play some of it. Play some of her voice.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Play some of it. Listen, and by the way, I should say this. I'm not knocking her. I'm a fan. She's great. And people are like, oh, Spotify made you put Miley Cyrus on. No, I fucking love Miley Cyrus. Right.
Starting point is 01:36:40 I really do. I'm a giant. I think that's exactly what it stands for. Oh, my Jesus Christ. I don't remember this. That's it. She's a 45-year-old waitress in Florida. It's kind of like an x-ray, and it kind of shows you almost like in those thermal type
Starting point is 01:36:49 colors of the activity of your brain. There we go. Wow. Single photon emission computer. She had operation on her throat. Can she still sing? Was it polyps? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Like an angel. She can still kill, right? Like an angel. Yeah, great. Well, that's good. Dude, I listened to her music before. I told her this. I showed her an image of me before I filmed my Netflix special.
Starting point is 01:37:08 I was listening to her song Malibu and dancing around backstage. Wow. Gets my mind off of comedy. Yeah, what are you going to do? Yeah, absolutely. I'm just trying to lose myself in it. Yeah. And I've been a big fan of hers for a long time.
Starting point is 01:37:18 I think she's fucking super talented, man. Her voice is beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, good for her. You ever heard her cover of jolene it's amazing fuck i've heard it's great it's so good man it's so let's hope she's not on only fans in two years vocal cord surgery will require weeks of silence to recover and this was in 2019 yeah
Starting point is 01:37:38 all we need trump to do is like uh i was gonna say have vocal cord surgery but it's his biggest thing is twitter so it doesn't matter. You can't. I mean, that's what's great about Donald Trump. He could lose his voice, and it wouldn't matter. He could still inflame people with just his fingers. Yeah. He'd have to cut his hands off.
Starting point is 01:37:57 It would maybe even be better if he had one of those. Yeah, right. Joe Biden. The debate is tomorrow night. That's so ridiculous. It's crazy. Are you going to be here? You're doing a show. I'm doing a show in San Antonio tomorrow night. That's so ridiculous. It's crazy. Are you going to be here? You're doing a show. I'm doing a show in San Antonio tomorrow night.
Starting point is 01:38:07 There's a few tickets left, but I just added it because I said I just want to do a show while I'm here and everything in Austin is RIP Cap City. Great club. It's not open. I'm hoping we can bring it back. Wow. I'm going to open up a club here. I hope you do.
Starting point is 01:38:21 I'm excited. I'm in the middle of a lot of things. I'm in the middle of a lot of things. I'm working on a lot of stuff. I've got a lot of things happening. But that will be one of the things that I'm just in the middle of a lot of things. I'm in the middle of a lot of things. I'm working on a lot of stuff. I got a lot of things happening. Yeah. But that will be one of the things that I'm going to work on. That would be great.
Starting point is 01:38:30 I mean, none of us know when the store is opening. Nobody knows anything about anything in LA. My concern is I don't want to, there's a bunch of things. I don't want anybody getting sick. Of course. I want to be able to do it where, you know, the people who work there, wait staff and folks can be safe and can make a living. the people who work there, wait staff, and folks can be safe and can make a living.
Starting point is 01:38:51 There have been talks about promising vaccines that are showing promise. There's four in trial. Moderna, AstraZeneca. Johnson & Johnson, is that one of them? I believe that's one of them. And then Pfizer. There's a few that are in. And I spoke to a doctor who said they all seem to their safety ratings are good, but their effectiveness is that's what's going to be debatable but he did say it's better to have
Starting point is 01:39:07 safe vaccines it may not work as well because you could always get other ones instead of ones that have all these other problems oh jesus jamie well vaccine trial stopped after neurological listen i'm glad he's telling us the truth you go back to iron carter's dick we're trying to be positive jesus drug maker says it halted a coronavirus vaccine study because a woman who received the experimental shot developed severe neurological jesus all right no vaccines sorry here's the thing if it's a trial i don't want the vaccine i'd let everyone else get it there's only one person that gets that out of a hundred people that are on the trial you gotta do it when you ramp that shit up to millions though you got
Starting point is 01:39:44 thousands and thousands of people that are fucked the way i feel about it is uh i would like everyone else to get it the vaccine and i because no when everyone says we need a vaccine no one's thinking about getting it themselves my manager her dad uh got the um lyme disease vaccine back in the disney and it gave him lyme disease. Jeez. Yeah, they stopped doing it. They stopped doing the Lyme. I think they deny that it gave people Lyme disease, but he got fucked up from this vaccine. Yeah, interesting.
Starting point is 01:40:13 No, it's actually a coincidence. You actually got Lyme disease right before we gave you the vaccine. I tipped you in the doctors. Sorry. We didn't mean it. Really sorry. Vaccines are creepy. I've never gotten a flu vaccine.
Starting point is 01:40:24 I've never gotten the flu vaccine I've never gotten the flu I wanted to ask you this I'm glad we brought this up Robert Kennedy Jr. yeah crazy? legit? anti-vaxxer?
Starting point is 01:40:34 pro-vaxxer? I would take what he says and literally think about it I've heard him speak I mean he has that disease with his voice what's his voice sound like? I don't know
Starting point is 01:40:43 but he has like there's some very rare disease he has I believe with his voice he just doesn't like vaccines I mean, he has that disease with his voice. What's his voice sound like? I don't know, but he has like, there's some very rare disease he has, I believe, with his voice. He just doesn't like vaccines. I mean, listen, there's a lot of credible people that not saying all vaccines are bad, but saying that there are real problems with certain vaccines and the amount of vaccines
Starting point is 01:41:02 that the kids are getting. They're getting a lot of vaccines in a very short period of time. So he was on Mike Tyson recently. Yeah. Let's listen to him. You know, my grandfather and grandmother were, Joseph Kennedy and Rose Kennedy were major figures in my life. Imagine you're on Mike Tyson's hot box and you're high as fuck
Starting point is 01:41:20 and you're talking to this guy like this. So that's how he talks? Is that Chris D'Elia to the right? Right. Chris D'Elia's found a job. Isn't it interesting that he's doing Mike Tyson's show? I watched this, though. At the end of it
Starting point is 01:41:36 he says he's not an anti-vaxxer. I don't think he is. I think people are doing clarification on it. I read that and thought it too. The thing about vaccines is the thing about all medication and basically everything so there's a certain number of people if you make things mandatory like if you make everyone have to take a vaccine think about there's 300 whatever million people and most of them have been vaccinated you're gonna have a lot of people that have problems right that's just a sheer numbers issue yeah it's just gonna be a big issue
Starting point is 01:42:03 and if you look at the vaccine court like how how many settlement, and by the way, I should say right away, I'm pro-vaccine. I've been vaccinated. My kid's been vaccinated. Right. But I know people who have had problems, and I know people whose children have been vaccinated who said that immediately, Ron Funches was talking about it. And he's like, I don't know if that's what caused it, but right away, my kid shut down. And we noticed it. It was instant.
Starting point is 01:42:28 And we thought he would come back, and he never came back. He was different before. And he's not the only one that I've talked to that's had this experience. So there's a lot of concerns about things like that happening. But they don't know if this was something that was inevitably going to happen or if the vaccines were a catalyst. But vaccine courts have paid out money to a large number of people does that mean vaccines are bad no vaccines are the reason why most people are living yeah there's a reason why we haven't died from fucking smallpox and syphilis
Starting point is 01:42:57 and yeah all the other disease syphilis oh they have a vaccine for syphilis i don't know if that is syphilis i think that 4.2 billion dollars has been awarded as of october 2019 wow it's just one of those things i think that's from vaccines vaccine court people know so little about it and people are very uncomfortable because a lot of the scroll up let me see what that means no you're right well it's scary i was breaking it down by year that was just so i could get you the biggest overall. This is just the Wikipedia for vaccine compensation. National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.
Starting point is 01:43:32 That's what he was talking about, which is what he got into. He's still a lawyer, and he's fighting this fight. This is the thing. It's not that we shouldn't vaccinate, because if we didn't vaccinate all these fucking kids that are getting the mumps now and measles and all these different serious diseases that can really fuck people up coming back they're coming back because people don't want to vaccinate their kids right it's fucking complicated man like most things that involve people they're very complicated
Starting point is 01:44:02 yeah but i think that a lot of people are, you know, because with coronavirus, they are just skeptical because the whole thing has been just handled poorly and nobody knows what's going on and the information is so bad and nobody trusts anybody anymore. The idea that you're just going to show up to CVS
Starting point is 01:44:16 and somebody's going to just shoot you in the arm with this synthetic coronavirus, people don't, people are kind of, that's scary. It's not even a synthetic coronavirus. Whatever the hell it is. Do you know what it is? I don't know what it is they're called mrna viruses and what that is is it's vaccines rather mrna vaccines it's a vaccine that stimulates the production of certain proteins that will
Starting point is 01:44:37 fight off the coronavirus okay so it's not like you're getting an inert version of the virus like every other vaccine so right so okay well now we got a whole new fucking thing now it's not like you're getting an inert version of the virus like every other vaccine so okay well now we got a whole new fucking thing now it's a whole other problem it's a whole new one people just are uncomfortable with any all information being disseminated right now
Starting point is 01:44:58 is just up for debate you have people that are screaming at each other going this is their thing I read an article the other day that said vaccines are on their way. The next article said there'll never be a vaccine. I don't know what to think. I'm reasonably intelligent and I don't know what to think. A lot of this country is not reasonably intelligent.
Starting point is 01:45:14 So they don't necessarily, like, I don't blame them for being skeptical and being a little scared and going, you know what? I'll take my chances out there. Instead of getting a shot in the arm in a walgreens they vaccinate you in like a shitty pharmacy you're buying like eggs and you get a shot and they say good luck and who's doing it somebody making minimum wage who has no idea what they're doing like yeah yeah it's it's terrifying. Yeah. I'll take my chances. Take my chances with coronavirus. The next part, which I've heard, not to get conspiracy on this part, but I've heard the word nano getting added to RNA and vaccine stuff. Oh, the nano chips.
Starting point is 01:45:58 That's a problem. Bill Gates. Yeah, right. Bill Gates. He got a nano robot. It's inaccurate, but I don't know what's accurate or what's not accurate. Boy, nobody took a bigger hit during this coronavirus lockdown than Bill Gates He got a nano robot I don't know what's accurate or what's not accurate Boy nobody took a bigger hit during this Coronavirus lockdown than Bill Gates
Starting point is 01:46:09 He became a villain I don't think he's a villain but I also think that Listen we're living in a time now Of Batman era Villain like where like these guys have Billions and billions and trillions of dollars I don't think he's a villain I don't think he's a villain at all
Starting point is 01:46:24 But here's what's fucked. Bill Gates has done more for humanity than most rich people would ever imagine doing. That guy's built schools and wells and helped people get educated. Look, him and his wife, the Gates Foundation, they've done a tremendous amount of positive work. But what I'm saying is i have but he's
Starting point is 01:46:45 wading into the controversial waters of the vexation listen but what i'm saying is yeah that during this pandemic yeah he's become a villain for the first time ever oh yeah it's like 70 because he wants to deliver people the mark of the beast that's all that's the only reason people are upset with him is because he wants to deliver people the mark of the beast and damn them forever toxin in you but listen goes, listen, you got to expect a certain amount of, a certain amount of, you know, discussion when you're making, when you are the guy inserting yourself into this very kind of volatile debate about public health and you're telling people they need to be vaccinated to travel
Starting point is 01:47:25 and and these are the standards that you want people to adapt listen man he could have just been a billionaire that swam in his fucking pool why do you think he talked about that like telling people that they need to be vaccinated he i guess he if you give him the benefit of the doubt he wants to help people i guess let's not give him the benefit of the doubt okay if we don't give him the benefit of the doubt we'll say that we don't give him the benefit of the doubt, we'll say that he wants the world to look like he thinks there's necessary and unnecessary things. He thinks that he should be in charge
Starting point is 01:47:51 of people's health, public health. Or that he thinks that a group of scientists or him and his foundation should be in charge of public health. His foundation? Really? No, I mean, listen, there's also billions and trillions of dollars to be made off some of these vaccines does he is he making money off vaccines i don't know what
Starting point is 01:48:09 he's doing but i'm telling so much money why does he need more money why does anyone need more money i don't think he's doing it for money i'm not saying he's an evil guy i'm saying that we cannot write a blank check i feel like he's an evil guy we cannot write a blank check to anybody we can't write a blank check, Joe, to anyone. Look at him. The next hour. That's in 2015. That's when he planned it.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Listen, I don't trust anybody who wears an outfit. This fucking sweater with the t-shirt underneath it. Can I just say this? I'm being totally serious. The button shirt underneath it. Him and Dr. Fauci created AIDS. That's all I'll say. That's all I'm going to say.
Starting point is 01:48:45 But why? You know, people fuck around. Just for fun? And they created AIDS. So that's the only reason I'm a little skeptical. No, but in all seriousness, our society shouldn't be structured where one guy stands up. Because by the way, in order to travel and go places and open your businesses, here's what you need to do.
Starting point is 01:49:02 And we talked about that in the beginning of the show, the government doing it why is it better for private billionaires doing it but here's the thing like why are we listening to him talk about public health issues like yeah he's the guy who founded microsoft phenomenal question yeah i mean that's a great question is it just because he's rich he has an interest in what if i stepped up and started telling everyone it's time to get vaccinated everyone Everyone's got to get vaccinated. Yeah. People would be like, hey, hey, hey. Relax.
Starting point is 01:49:27 You're a fucking comedian and a cage fighting commentator. Why are you telling everybody to get vaccinated? That's why I don't tell people to vote. Why is he doing it? Well, that's why people are a little suspicious. He's stepping out of his lane. Plus that sweater with the shirt on. The sweater, the creating of AIDS and Mark of the Beast.
Starting point is 01:49:42 All of it's a prop. There was a great, somebody made a great meme. He wanted to shoot, and I've said this before, he wanted to shoot a missile at Dustin's son to help climate change. I heard about that. When you have the capability, when you have the capability to do that type of shit,
Starting point is 01:49:54 someone's got to check. No one's checking him. You know why I don't trust him? No one checks Bill Gates. You know why I don't trust him? Why? Because he talks shit about Tesla. Oh, did he?
Starting point is 01:50:02 Yeah. Interesting. And him and Warren Buffett, that other fraud. Warren Buffett's like, oh, I live in my little house I've always lived in. And I drink Cokes. He does. He's a trillionaire. He's a cold-blooded trillionaire.
Starting point is 01:50:13 God love him. But stop with the act. He lives in a little house. Stop with that's an act. He has a military base under the house. Stop with this fucking act. I eat Dairy Queen and all this horse shit. He does.
Starting point is 01:50:24 You've got $80 billion. Can you stop with the horse shit? He lives in a small house. He drinks Coca-Cola. I'm sure. It's not that small. It's small for a guy who's worth $80 billion. Yeah, but you don't fucking...
Starting point is 01:50:36 But those are the guys you got to watch. I want my billionaires in palaces like Donny T. It's a nice little house. It's a modest house. I want my billionaires living like Trump in a gold apartment. Well, listen, he's a cheap fuck. He likes to keep the same house. What about that?
Starting point is 01:50:49 Go there. A sneak peek. Go down, Jamie. To the left. It's a beautiful little house. A sneak peek. What is that? A sneak peek into Warren Buffett's what?
Starting point is 01:50:54 His other house. He's got other houses, this motherfucker. Whatever. How many houses you got, Warren? But him and Gates are such good friends because they're both doing this thing where they're like, we're just little old men. And I'm just saying, everybody's got to get watched. I understand.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Everybody's got to be watched by me. I think you should think that people are watching when you open your trap and tell everybody they got to get vaccinated. People are not predisposed to trusting billionaires, delivering them edicts. I don't want an edict from anybody from the government from a billionaire i don't want anyone to go here's what you have to do explain to me why tell me why it's beneficial and then by the way even still give me the freedom to do it or not so here's what he said about elon and tesla he was saying that this tesla truck
Starting point is 01:51:40 thing that building semis is not likely because of the fact that the batteries are very heavy. And Elon's like, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. We're already doing it. Like, they're already deep. They have 500 mile semi trucks. Right. Like, they're already operational.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Right. They're a year away from implementing them nationwide. Right. Like, they have them. Right. Have you seen a Tesla semi? Yes. Yeah, they exist.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Right. So he's talking about it's not likely. Planes and... SpaceX, Tesla... What is Tesla semi? Yes. Yeah, they exist. Right. So he's talking about it's not likely planes. SpaceX, Tesla. What is he saying? This is actually an old video. Well, all these billionaires have egos. They all fight each other.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Okay. Good day. What's your opinion about Bill Gates' decorations referred to electric trucks? Regards. He has no clue. Yeah. He doesn't have a clue. Look, Elon is balls deep into that world.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Yeah. And then Elon's also mad because Bill Gates bought a Porsche, Taycan, the electric Porsche. And he said, like after he bought that, Bill Gates said, or Elon said, I've been underwhelmed when I talked to him. Oh, that's funny. Well, you know, the whole thing is that these guys have egos and everybody wants to, just give me a little info before you put
Starting point is 01:52:46 a chip in my arm please there's a company that yeah we were watching the video they put chips in people's arms so they could use a vending machine yeah see i don't think that's good and a lot of americans will they'll go for that what if they fire you they turn your chip off well they're gonna do that i mean they're gonna do that i mean this is this is gonna happen i mean cut it out yeah they well, they can deactivate you. Hold you down and cut your chip out. You have two choices, Tim. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Keep that chip in your arm for the rest of your life, and it's just inert. Right. But we'll still track you. We have to track you. Right. Or cut it out. Well, Spotify chipped me on the way in, which I thought was true. They told me they weren't going to do that anymore.
Starting point is 01:53:19 They just did a chip in my neck when I walked in. They told me they weren't going to do that anymore. I was like, okay. Well, they knew that you talk shit on trannies. They do. They said he's only, I like the Republican ones. I love Caitlyn Jenner. I love, if you're a transgender person, you're against gay marriage, I'm already a fan.
Starting point is 01:53:35 I think I fucked up by saying tranny. You can't even say that anymore. You can't say it. Even though trannies call each other trannies. They do. And gay people call gay people faggots, but you can't say that. Don't say it. Don't say it. You can say it because you're gay. Yes, yes but if you get a pass i but i look i look too racist to
Starting point is 01:53:50 say it the my wife still doesn't believe you're gay she says you're just doing that just for the jokes we had a meeting at wme and they said we've got to figure something out and i said i said what can we try and they said gay guy who's kind of like uncomfortable and says like the wrong things. And I said, let's try it out. And I told my wife who lives in Jersey with our three kids who I send money home to every week. She's a lovely woman, slightly larger, but working on it. And, you know, we're just making the money, you know. But, well, it's just the gay in the media is like, gays become annoying now.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Everybody's annoyed because gay people are like, Yertz be and it's like shut up nobody wants supposed to be fun they miss the will and grace gay they become they've become moralists right it takes all the fun out of it you're not supposed to take balls out of your mouth and tell people how to live that's really the reality that's the reality they miss the queer eye for the straight guy type of yeah well they that's a fun gay. Yeah, because now the gays are bookish and angry and they're in Antifa. And they're angry. And it's just like
Starting point is 01:54:51 it's not fun. It's supposed to be a little fun, a little dirty and naughty and wrong. That's the whole fun thing about everything. Naughty. It's not supposed to be Norman Rockwell. I'm sure that you listen. You can do it. You can have the family. the family could do anything you want but part of what is fun about be gay is that it's not like a fucking you're not sitting there like when they have the transgender the drag queen
Starting point is 01:55:15 reading to the kids i'm like great i don't care about that but it's also like why are you doing that it's horrible and not fun yeah nobody wants to read to kids in a library nobody what do you think is happening do you think it's because on twitter and social media people can say things and get likes so that they make these statements and they feel like they did a good job and making that statement a lot of people had resonated with them people are just getting to do people are very invested in being a victim so when gay people started to mainstream and you got marriage and you got this and that there was you you weren't really a victim anymore uh so then what happened is people started saying queer and this and that and we're very different and now there's we don't uh and so now like a lot
Starting point is 01:55:54 of these non-binary people with all due respect it's not a fact uh is that a lot of these people are white women in upper middle class colleges like wesleyan and oberlin and places like that who don't want to be a victim i mean they don't want to be a an oppressor because but they're rich white chicks so by saying i'm non-binary you're automatically now you're not in the hierarchy of oppression anymore you've been victimized by a gender patriarchy that has enforced these things on you and that might non-binary, it might stick. Great. I have no problem.
Starting point is 01:56:26 I don't care. But it also might be like bell bottoms. Like 20 years from now, a guy might be like, yeah, your mother had no gender in college. She was a nut. She used to burn down the federal courthouses in Seattle. What did Douglas Murray say about, call them the really neat attention people?
Starting point is 01:56:49 He's funny because he makes so many people mad. He always just sitting there he's the best he's just a very large and he just says you know joe let me say a few things and we'll be in the news in four minutes you know like he's brilliant yeah his book uh the madness of crowds is fucking fantastic because he he nails it all yeah all the the the craziness is going on but it's like a lot of it's this weird generational because like older gay people are don't understand this a lot of them oh no they don't get it yeah they don't get that's like palm springs those gay guys those gay guys no one took covid less seriously than gay people that had money like they were all buff these buff guys walking around no masks they took it less seriously than people that watch info wars like they were like this is fake they survived hiv they're like we all beat aids by lifting weights no one cares
Starting point is 01:57:30 we're not fucking taking covid seriously so this whole idea they don't understand they'll be very honest they go i don't understand they go what do you mean gender is not real the whole point of my life is that gender is real it wasn't attracted to that gender yeah that's the whole point yeah so at the end of the day, like, what do you mean that's not real? So I've just been an idiot forever? I just wanted to get beat up at school and then have to join a gym and get buff. Like, what are we doing?
Starting point is 01:57:54 That gender's not real thing is so dumb. It's like space is fake, the thing you bring up. It's the same idea. It is the same thing. It's sick. We're in trouble. Who cares? No one cares. This is the other thing. I think people are so invested's sick we're in trouble who cares no one cares this is the other thing i think people are so invested that people hate them and people care no one cares no one cares about your life no one cares if you want to be a man or a woman nobody gives a shit
Starting point is 01:58:12 about anything nobody cares about anything truly they care about if there's a line of chick-fil-a if their water bill's paid they don't give a shit about your life but this idea that people are oppressing you and they're constantly invested and they're hunting and they're behind the trees and they're coming for you no one gives a shit yes there are small motivated groups of people that want to restrict your rights but by and large most people they might be like oh that's weird or look that's a little odd but they're not fuming with hatred at you no no they're not and it makes people feel powerful or worthy yes yes i want to be hated for the right reasons you are yes and i believe i am i think you are i you know when i used to say i was gay
Starting point is 01:58:54 on stage people would be shocked now sometimes people start clapping oh you don't want that i don't say it anymore you know what i stay and said? What? I say Ruth Bader Ginsburg's burning in hell. Because I want that reaction. I'd rather that reaction. I've chosen another way to say it. You know? It's a fun time to be bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:22 It's a fun time to say ridiculous shit. Because even though there's a lot of blowback, there's also a lot of people that get really happy That you're doing it Because there's not enough people that are pushing back A lot of people aren't And the people that come out to these shows They've been having so much fun because they want this This is what they want Everybody wants somebody
Starting point is 01:59:38 To push back and do it in a funny way That everyone can enjoy And that's what I think we need to do and i want people that are free to express themselves because they're not and most people are not yeah most people are not and also let hollywood go in this crazy direction they're going into who gives a fuck we have all the tools to just create our own thing you've showed everyone that and it's just like people are over it people are over what are you gonna sit in a writer's room and write write uh for for some show? Did you see that Emmy's shit?
Starting point is 02:00:06 Horrific. Where Jimmy Kimmel and Anthony Anderson? I don't know. Who was it that he was with? I am checking. I think that's what I heard. It was so weird. It's weird.
Starting point is 02:00:19 That he said, yeah, this sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. You're supposed to clap here, Jimmy. Say Black Lives Matter. He says, Black Lives Matter. Say it this sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. You're supposed to clap here, Jimmy. Say Black Lives Matter. He says, Black Lives Matter. Say it louder, Jimmy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Black Lives... And he's clapping. I'm like, what are you doing? Is it a parody? I didn't know. It's a hard thing. When you look at it, you're like, are they making fun of it?
Starting point is 02:00:36 What is it? It's weird. They're trying to make it funny. Yeah. It's just there's no audience, and they didn't try it out in front of an audience. Yeah. That needed work. That needed work.
Starting point is 02:00:45 It needed work. Like I see what you were trying to do. There's probably... And you got some really good writers to do that, but you got to take some chances. There you go. Anthony Anderson. Jimmy Kimmel looks a little uncomfortable. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 02:00:56 Yeah. It's... Well, I think that's part of the sketch though, is that he's supposed to kind of look uncomfortable. Right. That's like part of the fun about it. But it's just not good. Nobody needs this. You needed someone to write something really funny.
Starting point is 02:01:12 Yeah. And take a risk. Well, comedy's supposed to live in those gray areas, and there's no gray areas anymore. So that's a real big problem. That's a big problem. That's a big problem. Especially for anything corporate.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Louis made a good point. He said that when you criticize both sides, you end up illustrating a big problem. That's a big problem. Especially for anything corporate. Louis made a good point. He said that when you criticize both sides, you end up illustrating a deeper truth, which is about humanity, which is what comedy is supposed to do. Yeah. So if you look at two sides and go this and this, and you kind of try to make fun of them,
Starting point is 02:01:37 and you have no sacred cows or whatever, you end up illustrating something deeper about humanity, which people can learn more from, and then reorient themselves in a productive way about any issue yeah that does make sense yeah and that is you have to be able to look at both sides and in this day and age that's not possible yeah it's like you if you're on i should say it's not possible if you're on a corporate television show if you're on television if you're doing a late night talk show, you got no shot, man. There's too many cooks in the kitchen.
Starting point is 02:02:08 And they're the worst. I mean, they're just not funny. They're very strange. They don't look happy. Jimmy Fallon does not look happy doing his show. He looks like he's chained to that desk. It's very strange. He's talking to Muppets.
Starting point is 02:02:19 He's talking to Miss Piggy. There's Muppets singing on the show. It's dystopian. It disturbs people. They're running at high altitude. Yeah. There's not enough air singing on the show. It's dystopian. It disturbs people. They all look like they're running at high altitude. There's not enough air in the room. Get that kind of money and you say to yourself, I just want to
Starting point is 02:02:31 stay. I always wonder why those guys don't just jump ship and go make a movie. Go do something else. They can't make movies because none of those guys, like Jimmy Fallon, they're not going to make movies of Jimmy Fallon. Maybe they can make a movie. Go make an indie. Go do something else else the guys who make the movies are already making the movies right right Seth Meyers or uh Seth Rogen rather he's making the movies you know
Starting point is 02:02:52 these these famous guys that are you know Adam Sandler they're making movies right like for you to say I've never made any movies before but I've been a talk show host I want to make a movie like that might work but you got a gig that pays you fucking 10 million a year Why stick with this gig? What are you stupid? Why risk it? Why risk it? Yeah, and well, maybe I'll just do a podcast Well, what are you gonna say wild shit on your podcast and then they're gonna cancel you from your show Then you're in trouble. Your podcast doesn't make enough money yet. You can't do it Because only but nobody what's amazing me is nobody leaves like Alan's back. Nobody walks away. Nobody retired like she's got hundreds of millions She's got so much money, but she's back. She doesn't care ellen's back nobody walks away nobody retired like she's got hundreds of millions she's got so much money but she's back she doesn't care she's back well i think she wants
Starting point is 02:03:29 to redeem herself that's probably true like during the covid nobody got she got taken down harder than bill gates she did it's like bill gates was like here she got taken down but i think they'll forgive her by the way if you were having a problem if if you you were in a car accident everything like that and you're just sitting there and you want somebody to help you, and you see Ellen and Bill Gates, does that make anyone feel comfortable? No, I think they don't give a fuck about that. Let's be very honest. If two of them were walking towards me and I had a tire out, I would fake my own death. I just, I don't, something on a gutter level, I go, ugh.
Starting point is 02:04:02 She dresses like an executive on Westworld. She's waiting for you to die yeah watching you on the screen hmm she's tough man is the Indian gonna shoot him hmm
Starting point is 02:04:11 did you see Vin Diesel's song and they had the crowd dancing to the Kelly Clarkson show don't tell me Vin Diesel's singing don't you do it this is this is very don't you do it
Starting point is 02:04:20 it's very bad the Emmys who's that for right now like who's your target audience nobody if you're sitting at home and you're an Emmys, who's that for right now? Who's your target audience? Nobody. If you're sitting at home and you're an Emmys writer, who are we doing this for? Not the 27 million people that are about to be evicted.
Starting point is 02:04:32 That's true. That's not who it's for. That is what's real too, right? Yeah, that's what's real. I mean, they should have not had it. It's for young kids in high school that want to one day be on 30 Rock or a show like that, create a show like that. Vin Diesel, this is on Kellyarkson's show yes she's got a show people like they have screens flipped up vertically for the audience so she can see them and there's people at home
Starting point is 02:04:55 like they're doing for the nba games okay i guess vin has a new song and uh is he singing right now no you think he's talking to her and then they play it here for the audience. Where is this? Yeah, right here. So they're showing, which is the weird part where they must have told these people they all have to dance. Okay, let me see what this is. Give me a little bit of it. Stop. Stop.
Starting point is 02:05:15 I heard enough. Horrible. No, not as bad as Drew Barrymore's talk show. How bad was it? Everyone said it was horrible. It doesn't even make sense. What's wrong? Is she on drugs?
Starting point is 02:05:23 What is it? All of it. Yeah. Just, i don't know like the writing the overacting it's just uh it's confusing man it's like have you seen it jamie there was some clip i saw that i think it might have been tom and christina put up because it was like not it's so bad it's like how did you let that slide through like someone needs to tell her like i've heard her on talk shows though. It's like, how did you let that slide through? Like, someone needs to tell her. I've heard her on talk shows, though. I would let that.
Starting point is 02:05:49 She's nice. She seems smart and funny and interesting on talk shows. And then doing her own, she's like over the top and like really like acty outy. Yeah, it's bad. You want to hear a little bit of it? Here we go. Pay your offer normally. I just thought since you are closing soon anyway,
Starting point is 02:06:06 and I just think your bosses should actually know what an amazing person you are, that you will simply not break the rules. But then I was curious, has anyone else ever tried to find a clever way in when, like, the signs say no entry, so to speak? I love receiving a no after I've tried everything. Stop. That's enough.
Starting point is 02:06:27 Yeah, I mean, this is i mean this is writers are dead they're all dead and this is gonna die and they should i mean at the end of the day it's just that's why you should just like it's just like podcast drew and if she podcasted and just be herself yeah i think it would be better be much better be better than she's doing stand-up there well she's trying to be very big and animated But she hasn't done stand up before It's crazy She's doing stand up but you haven't done stand up She's another one who's been famous and she's two or something Oh that's right
Starting point is 02:06:52 What was the ET Was she on ET is that what she was on Oh my god She's been in the business forever That's so long ago That's so long ago I mean that's where it ends. That's 82?
Starting point is 02:07:06 This is a lesson for everybody in a theater arts class right now. You could be Drew Barrymore doing that show or Aaron Carter jerking off. Those are the two options. Just wait until you're older. You got to develop a personality and go through some struggle and pay your own bills. I just don't think it's right. It's like, this is one of the things that I was talking about. I was a child actor as a kid and I your own bills. I just don't think it's right. It's like, this is one of the things that I was talking about. I was a child actor as a kid and I failed.
Starting point is 02:07:29 I was on Sesame Street three times. Were you really? Twice. I was on Sesame Street. I did the polka with Snuffleupagus. Did you? Legitimately. I was a child actor and I failed because I had the same voice I do now and it was disturbing to the casting director. I'm glad it didn't work out. I was a cute little kid but i would say i would be like hello and they'd be like when did
Starting point is 02:07:47 you give up i gave i was from six first play was six six to twelve and then twelve that was yeah yeah god you gave up before your puberty kicked in yeah and then but i got out but i i was you know i was in that game and i was trying that you know i would audition against people like jonathan taylor thomas like real deal dudes who made it whose idea was trying that you know I would audition against people like Jonathan Taylor Thomas like real deal dudes who made it whose idea was it for you to do that I really liked doing it
Starting point is 02:08:09 and I was really like into it I wanted to be you know I wanted attention I wanted everything and so my mother and father they're you know boomers
Starting point is 02:08:16 they're like fine you know make a little money pay our mortgage you know what I mean they're with Long Island scum love them both but you know
Starting point is 02:08:24 so I have a friend who got famous when he was young and his parents ripped him off. Really? Yeah, I found out later in life. They would have done that to me, too. They would have absolutely taken everything, those two. Yeah, they would have mismanaged it. Didn't audit.
Starting point is 02:08:36 Yeah. They would have screwed it all up, both of them. So I'm glad that it didn't work out for that sake because they would have taken all the money and blown it. It wouldn't have been funny. I'm glad it worked out because you you gotta go through some shit gotta live you gotta live you gotta live it's just it's hard enough to be a person just a grown person it's hard everybody knows that it's hard it's hard to be a grown-up it's really hard to be famous right it's hard it's hard to manage, and it's way harder if you grow up famous. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:06 Because you never had a reality. Like, you don't have a, like, oh, people know who I am now. No, they always know who you are? Right. Well, you're fucked, because it's like cement, but you're mixing it wrong. Right. You've got too much water, and it's never going to harden. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:19 You can't, like, take the water out. Yeah. Like, you're already fucked. Yeah. That's what it's like. It's a difficult thing. At your level, it's very difficult. Somebody that's really well-known, it can be very difficult.
Starting point is 02:09:28 I got a slow drip. My level, it's kind of fun because I get a few people in a restaurant go, hey, man, that's fun. Megan McCain. Yeah. We're fans. We like your podcast. That's fun.
Starting point is 02:09:39 But then at your level, it gets a little invasive. It gets weird. It gets invasive. But I had a slow drip. I got it over a long time. It gets weird. It gets invasive. But I had a slow drip. I got it over a long time. Right. I've had a slow fame drip since 94. Right.
Starting point is 02:09:51 Yeah. And then now it's just this is a- Yeah. You can't go to an airport without people. It's a whole thing. It's a thing. Yeah. It's a thing now.
Starting point is 02:10:00 People come up to you. I've been at the comedy store. People come up to you and they're like, dude, let me just show you this video. Well, they want me to do things with them. Yeah. That's what thing now. And people come up to you. I've been at the comedy store. They run up to you and they're like, dude, let me just show you this video. Well, they want me to do things with them. Yeah. That's what's weird. Like, I need you to help me with this project. Let me help you.
Starting point is 02:10:12 With this project. Oh, dude, you'd be amazed. The fucking number of people during a day that email me or get a hold of friends. Like, hey, man, I don't want to get you this, but this guy wants to talk to you about this. Yeah. I mean, it's hundreds to talk to you about this. Yeah. I mean, it's hundreds. Yeah. It's constant.
Starting point is 02:10:29 Yeah. Because they think that they know, hey, you know that guy? Hey. Right. I got this thing. I've been trying to make this new kind of pickle. Right. Like, if I could.
Starting point is 02:10:38 Can you invest? If I could just get a hold of him. Yeah. I've had no bullshit. A thousand people ask me to invest in things what's the weirdest way someone's tried to get on the show has there been like weird ways oh sure i don't know somebody fedexed himself to the studio the beautiful thing about me not reading comments or anything like that is i don't have to read any of that right um and i have good people that
Starting point is 02:10:59 filter out all that shit right um you know they've done like like twitter campaigns i tried it like tweet at him tweet at him here he is here he is this is me see look at that look at that i should have made it we just had to walk around snuffle up how did you know it was tim is that you yeah it's me and come on dancing with that small hispanic woman are you sure that's you? That's absolutely me How do you know that's you? It was MKUltra Mind Control Therapists have done mental regression I want to see your little face I looked at it for now, Jones It's all from the fucking bird's eye view
Starting point is 02:11:37 Let me see I don't see shit I'm not buying it Wait a minute You can tell I was starting to get fat I was starting to get Wait a minute. You can tell. I was starting to get fat. Oh my God, it's Tim Dillon. I was starting to get chubby. That is you.
Starting point is 02:11:48 You can tell. I was starting to get chubby. That is you. That's so weird. What were you thinking right there? Like, I'm really on TV. I was thinking that this is really not what I thought it was going to be. Did you meet Snuffleupagus outside of the outfit or did they keep that a secret from you?
Starting point is 02:11:59 No, but Big Bird used to smoke cigarettes outside. He was this really kind of guy named Carol something and he looked very like, you know, like- Creeping? Well, no, just meth-y. Dangerous? Just smoking cigs and kind of like- Big Bird smoked cigs in front of the kids? Yeah, I mean, he would sit outside in Astoria,
Starting point is 02:12:14 Kaufman Astoria Studios. What year is this? 19, I was, you know, nine, so 1994. Wow, you could still smoke cigarettes in front of kids back then? Yeah, oh, back then it then, kids would just shut up. We would take my friend's mother would drive us around. She would smoke butts.
Starting point is 02:12:29 My friend's father would smoke butts and roll the windows up. Oh, that's the dirtiest. That's the dirtiest. He would smoke Marlboros. We're not getting cold because of you kids. Yeah. The windows go right up. So that was when you could treat kids like garbage.
Starting point is 02:12:41 Smoking sections in restaurants seemed like such a thing of the past, but it wasn't that fucking long ago. What year was that? I worked in them, so it must have been like 2003, 4, 5, somewhere. I think New York was earliest. Then New York was first. Well, LA, it was a big deal
Starting point is 02:12:58 because they stopped it in bars. And I remember Drew Carey was complaining. I don't think Drew carrey even smoked but he's just complaining for the business for barney's beanery because they blocked it at barney and everybody's like what barney's beanery we even have a smoking section was a little ridiculous because just smoke goes everywhere everywhere yeah how could you have a sex i guess the world just smelled like smoke when you when you were growing up like all the time yeah but casinos you could still smoke yes Yes. That's what's
Starting point is 02:13:26 fucked. Barely can, you know. Really? Really? It's frowned upon. Half the area you can't if you're at a table, you can have a cigarette. But walking around most of the places, no smoking. But please, no smoking. I think they probably don't want you dropping ashes on the floor and burning the carpet.
Starting point is 02:13:43 There's a lot of assholes who walk around with cigars, too. I'm a winner. It might be the casino dependent. Well, the ceilings are so high, and they filter the oxygen, so, I mean... Do they really pump oxygen in there to keep you awake? That's what they've said. Not awake, but it's probably because it's
Starting point is 02:13:58 such an enclosed space, you have to get some fresh air in there. Yeah. I don't know about keep you awake. Have you been since the COVID? No. I've only been to Vegas for the fights, and the fights are at the ufc apex center have you stayed or do you just fly no i fly in and out in a day and it's weird being there man it's like everybody's wearing a mask and they have very strict laws in nevada so like everybody's masked up and yeah i just think that that town's gonna have a tough time back they're gonna have a real tough time bouncing back but if they are back they will make money yes of course people love vegas they
Starting point is 02:14:31 love being there it's just whether or not the town itself though my buddy randy was telling me it's hurting he lives there it's hurting hurting bad he's like it's hurting bad like most people burnt through their savings within the first month or two and do you think la is gonna come back dude i don't know uh jamie you were just there you said it was horrible yeah it was weird i was i was in three airports la well four technically i guess la columbus austin all pretty empty for like you would think the pandemic is happening o'hare airport last night packed slammed slammed people were running around everywhere people full flights every every plane everyone was saying was full there every flight i got on there like this is a full flight that would make me uncomfortable a full flight with strangers wearing a mask
Starting point is 02:15:13 i haven't done i haven't done a full flight but i've done i've done flights and i gotta be honest with you you don't feel that in the in the plane because they're the oxygens keep they circulate they refilter the air they said that the transmission rates are probably lower there than if you were in like an elevator or an enclosed small room or something like that. It's weird how contagious this disease is. Well, you say that, but I know a guy who just tested positive and his girlfriend is not positive and they've been living together. It's so weird.
Starting point is 02:15:38 It's like very strange. It's weird. She's probably healthy. Yeah. So, I mean, but he's healthy too. They're both like fitness people. Is she taking the old Schlauzel? She might be doing that. She's probably healthy. Yeah. But he's healthy too. They're both fitness people. Is she taking the old Schlauzer? She might be doing that.
Starting point is 02:15:49 I don't know. Is that the antidote? Is that the vaccine? Maybe it's in the loads. It might be. But listen to this. Bill Gates comes out and says we need semen. I see some breast milk today.
Starting point is 02:16:01 Someone was saying. The antibodies? I just take the vitamins. I take the vitamin D, and I think that's what you can do. Yeah, vitamin D is huge. And be healthy and not eat. Zinc, vitamin C, vitamin D. Don't eat white sugar and inflammatory ice cream and bullshit.
Starting point is 02:16:17 Don't try to sleep. That's hard. Well, that's the thing about breast milk too, though. Breast milk is phenomenal for a kid's immune system there you go makes sense it makes sense but you know it's not nearly as big of an issue with children anyway the one of the things the florida governor did is he put up a chart that showed the fatality rate for people that are you know under this age over that age and he went through all the thing which is accurate but you're just talking about fatality the long-term effects
Starting point is 02:16:51 are creepy yeah that's about that's an issue there's some people that have like devastating long-term effects and uh they don't know how long that's going to last because obviously this has only been around for six months but uh there's people that got it four or five months ago that are still suffering from fatigue and they they're but they're also saying that like that's a lot like a lot of diseases that aren't reported like you know people just have some weird neurological reaction to it and it just flares up like some type of whether it's chronic fatigue or yep epstein-barrism i mean dude it's just a bad situation where you hope that we get out of it but there doesn't seem to be like there's no great option here the great option is take care of your health yeah
Starting point is 02:17:31 you know making just that's that's the option make sure you make your immune system as durable as possible and there's this is what's driving me the most crazy about our government you don't hear a peep about that you don't hear a peep about that which is why you know i was talking on my podcast i said as a joke i said tell people to eat their vegetables it's like you're gonna tell people to vote there's so much better advice or equally as good advice you know yeah tell them other things and nobody tells anyone anything so yet they've said not a word about immune health and they've said not a word about preventative measures you can take other than sitting in your house and going broke yeah the crazy thing in la they're talking about schools and when a school is going to open
Starting point is 02:18:06 up. They said after the election. Could you at least try to pretend that you're not being political? This isn't totally political. After the election. Do you have science? School's open. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:14 Kamala Harris will open the school. She'll cut the ribbon to open the school when it's, yeah. Do you have science? She's going to smother Biden with a pillow. I mean, Fauci. The day she gets in there. Fauci's got to go. They're going to celebrate. They're going to celebrate in the hotel room. And she's going to get on Biden with a pillow. I mean, Fauci's got to go. They're going to celebrate.
Starting point is 02:18:25 They're going to celebrate in the hotel room. And she's going to get on top of him, film out. Yeah, yeah. I saw this in the last week. This guy's got to go. This is a big mistake. Yeah, he's been saying about taking vitamin D. He says if you're deficient, the problem with that is everyone's deficient.
Starting point is 02:18:41 Yeah. You know, people don't think they're deficient. 79% of America is deficient in vitamin D. 79%. The other thing about, but Fauci just seems to me, like I've always believed Italians shouldn't be doctors. Or governors. Yeah, or governors.
Starting point is 02:18:54 Correct. They shouldn't make cars either. 100%. But we should have a Jew or an Asian giving us advice. I like that. Nobody wants a short, hey, I'm Fauci. Nobody wants a pizza fucking delivery guy giving people advice. I like that. Nobody wants a short, hey, I'm Fauci. Nobody wants a pizza fucking delivery guy
Starting point is 02:19:07 giving people advice on coronavirus. Give us an Asian. Give us a Jew. Nobody wants an Irish guy either. Nobody wants a guy that looks like me whose name is Maliki.
Starting point is 02:19:17 What about Kennedy? Nobody wants that. What about Kennedy? Get an Asian or a Jew, please. What about Kennedy? Nobody wants, you want a doctor or an Indian guy, like a Pakistani guy, something?
Starting point is 02:19:27 Indians. Listen to him. Go listen to an Italian guy. I like what you're saying. I'm just... It's what it is. I think that's fair. I like when people are racist against white people.
Starting point is 02:19:38 It's like clearing. It's clean. You can get away with it. It's all we have left. Yeah. You can get away with it. You get away with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:43 Shit all over them. All you have left. And Italians are barely white. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You get away with it. You get away with it. Yeah. Shit all over them. All you have left. And Italians are barely white. That's what I'm saying. Truly. That's my people. So we're Irish. We're barely white.
Starting point is 02:19:50 Well, we were slaves. We were slaves. And we were, I mean, the potato famine was a tragedy. People tend not to remember that. Oh, they gloss over it. These foxes. They eat potatoes right in front of you. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 02:20:01 They don't even think about you. This was a hard time. Hard time for your ancestors. I mean yeah right they don't even think about you this was a hard time hard time for your ancestors i mean but i don't know this debate tomorrow is going to be like it might be the funnest thing ever i hope and the scariest i hope it falls apart i hope biden forgets what he's talking about and just falls asleep i hope trump goes crazy and starts making shit up yeah and i hope the united states the next day puts a timeout. And stop. Yeah. Let's start over.
Starting point is 02:20:27 Wouldn't that be amazing? It's an hour and a half commercial free. It's an hour and a half commercial free. Yeah. Wow. Who's the moderator? Chris Wallace? I don't.
Starting point is 02:20:36 Let me see. I know they've announced all three. I think it's Chris Wallace. It's a TikToker. Let me tell you something about that Chris Wallace guy. He is very reasonable. He's not bad. He's very reasonable. He's not bad. He's very reasonable. He's a good choice.
Starting point is 02:20:47 He will hold your fucking nuts to the fire if you say stupid shit. Yeah, he's good. Yeah. He's good. And he's a Fox News guy, but he's- He's good. And even liberals are looking at him. They're like, okay.
Starting point is 02:20:58 It's going to be a really crazy debate. I'm doing the show, but I'll watch it, and I'm sure it'll be- Well, you can always watch it afterwards. I'll watch it afterwards. It's going to be a really crazy debate. I'm kind of, I mean, I'm doing this show instead of, but I'll see, I'll watch it. And I'm sure it'll be. Well, you can always watch it afterwards. I'll watch it afterwards. It's going to be around. The election is what's scary to me. We should do, last year, or last, in 2016, you weren't in LA yet, but we did an End of the World podcast.
Starting point is 02:21:19 Yeah. We should do something like that on November 3rd. That would be hilarious. We should get some people in here. Jamie. Sure. Who do we have on, do we have anybody booked? Hold on. That would be hilarious. We should get some people in here. Jamie, who do we have on? Do we have anybody booked? Hold on. Don't say anything.
Starting point is 02:21:29 Don't say anything. Nothing. There's nothing. Don't say anything, Jamie. There might be. That I don't know of. Okay, just as election damage. Yeah, you have different knowledge than me.
Starting point is 02:21:40 Don't let the fucking Spotify people know. I got to keep the guests quiet so I can sneak them in. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I'm sneaking some people in. Yeah. Oh, there's going to be some nuclear bombs we're going to drop. Yeah. But, yeah, let's do that.
Starting point is 02:21:53 Let's get together a few guys, like maybe Normand. Yeah. Maybe Shafir. Yeah, why not? Some crazy people. Yeah. Yeah. Do it all in here and do it live.
Starting point is 02:22:02 Why not? Why not? May or may not. Skype options might be available to if someone can't make it. We might not be in this room anymore by then. I got ideas, motherfucker. You're moving on. I'm doing shit.
Starting point is 02:22:11 I'll take this studio when you're done. I'll take this. You're going to move here, right? I might. Yeah. I mean, it's getting a little crazy over there. Listen, if you move here, I might have this available for you. Getting a little crazy over there.
Starting point is 02:22:22 You got good internet. You know? If you're into red and black, this is your spot. Yeah, this is the spot. I like it. This is like a Boston Chinese restaurant. I had to put this thing together. I mean, I didn't put it together, but Matt Alvarez did.
Starting point is 02:22:34 Yeah, we can make it more red. Yeah. We had to put this thing together. Yeah. I literally decided from... I like that. Leave it like that. Leave it like that.
Starting point is 02:22:41 That's great. That's tight. This is nice. Yeah, it's tight. From deciding we were going to leave la to living here right six weeks quick six weeks quick we were from deciding we're going to leave la to shipping everybody moving the whole crew yeah like everybody security people everybody jamie yeah my my family um fucking we had to move all the equipment we had to set everything up we had uh you know they had to put together this fucking room and people like
Starting point is 02:23:11 it's a spot where i talk yeah yeah what do you give a fuck what's behind me yeah yeah but i got plans yeah i got plans for stage two. I liked the way you addressed it the other day. You said, folks, relax. Yeah. Just settle down. Settle down. It's not the most important thing. It'll all be okay.
Starting point is 02:23:32 It's like there's a thing. These are sound panels. Yeah. I just thought they looked cool. Well, I appreciate that. And thanks for letting me use your backyard for my pop-up show. Whenever you want. Just tell everybody where I live.
Starting point is 02:23:42 I was like, is there any clubs open? He's like, I don't think so. I'm like, I'll just bring everyone to the backyard. Just get 100 people in the backyard for you. Yeah, just clear it off real quick. Yeah. I think there's going to be, I mean, there's a Velveeta room here. Do they still do stand-up?
Starting point is 02:23:55 Yeah, it's a great spot. Are they still doing stand-up? I don't know what's going on. I think a lot of stuff's Austin is closed. The whole 6th Street was sketched the other day. I drove down 6th Street during the day, and I was like, whoa, this looks sketchy. Nothing looks good right now. Everything's closed up and weird.
Starting point is 02:24:08 At night it opens up. Does it? I hear music at night downtown. Well, I heard music for sure, but I also saw a lot of very homeless-y looking folk wandering around. Well, that's going to get worse and worse unless people figure out a way to get people back to work and get people mental health care and get people all kinds of shit.get fantasy sent me a video that she took from venice yeah it's it's bananas what's going on a mile straight i mean a mile straight of tents yeah like the fucking video just keeps going and going and going and, no. No, that can't be.
Starting point is 02:24:45 Hold on. It's like, why are there no tents in Beverly Hills, though? You know? Because there's people with a lot of money there. Right. That's exactly what it is. Yeah. But then they tweet on Twitter about, you know, right.
Starting point is 02:24:54 I mean, it's like, let's put the tents in Bel Air. They have this, like, stupid idea of, like, what's okay. Right. Most people think it's fine. It's fine. Look at this. Watch this. Can you see that, ladies and gentlemen? Yeah, this is crazy.
Starting point is 02:25:06 This is crazy. Look at how long this goes. I'll send this to you, Jamie. I'll airdrop it to you. Because people need to see this. Because a lot of people think, like, oh, you're exaggerating. It's not that big a deal. No, it's bad. It's not that big a deal. Here, young Jamie. It's on the way to you.
Starting point is 02:25:23 It's not good. It's a fairly long video. It's on the way to you. It's not good. It's a fairly long video. It's sent already? Yeah. Oh. This is the thing that Android's missing. AirDrop. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:36 They can eat shit as long as there's AirDrop. And as long as Apple's better with privacy, they can eat shit. You can't put it up there? Check this out. Watch this. Let's watch how long this is. This is like a minute long video. And watch. Here we go. Ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten ten I'm not exaggerating. Ten ten ten ten 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, long fucking video it's more than a minute long and it's just all tense it's crazy and that's just some of it that's just some of it yeah there's there's there's real bad problems and there's no good ways to solve them right now you fix that nobody knows how to fit well they're doing this
Starting point is 02:26:35 dumb shit like putting boulders under the things and they're you can't do that you're just gonna make them move and then they're gonna be right somewhere else with a tent i guess you fix your mental health care the problem is they keep trying to build this low-cost housing, but I think it's like $740,000 per unit of low-cost housing. I was like, why is it costing that much? There's so much regulation and red tape. And they won't let them do drugs there, so they leave. Right.
Starting point is 02:26:56 And if you don't make it illegal for them to just have tents on fucking sidewalks where you can't walk around, you've got to walk on the highway because there's fucking tents everywhere. What about mental health care? But that's still a long play. That's not going to fix anything overnight. What did you say? Shoot them?
Starting point is 02:27:12 Kill them? Is that what you just said? Well, a mental health care clinic that they would walk into thinking it's a clinic and then you would vaporize them. I don't know what's going to fix it. But I think it's- I don't know either. I think it's one of those things where it got too far.
Starting point is 02:27:23 It went too far. It went. It's too far gone. They didn't have a few tents, and they said, hey, folks, what's wrong? Can we help? Let's put together a program to help these people. And then COVID came along, and everything magnified by 10. It's nuts.
Starting point is 02:27:37 Yeah, the system seems to be buckling in certain places, and that's one of the places it seems to be buckling the most noticeably is in Los Angeles. And the people with money are just like, fuck this. People with money are out of it. They're just completely, you know, I was in the Hamptons. I spoke to some guy in the Hamptons. He had no idea what was going on. He said to me, he's like, aren't all these problems on Twitter?
Starting point is 02:27:55 Are these real problems? I'm like, no, they're real problems. But they're out to lunch. You know, people that are just insulated by their own social circle or wherever they are. But I mean, you know, these problems, whether it's the fires, the economy, the homeless people, they're all – it's a perfect storm. And Los Angeles is just in deep, deep trouble and they're not opening up anytime soon. It's so poorly managed. Very poorly managed. I didn't realize how important it is to have a good mayor until i saw this shit happen and a good governor well if you want to feel better about los angeles go right over to new york city and bill de blasio
Starting point is 02:28:29 has destroyed 15 years of progress in five months it really has yeah absolutely that city right now at night does not feel fun to walk around yeah tell me what it was like well it was weird we had an airbnb me and the dude who opens for me we were we had an airbnb we we a beautiful apartment on like but but it was in hell's kitchen right by time square but we're in one of those high rises i said you know we're all the way up you know um and then the uber we got in an uber that was a hazmat it was it was wrapped in uh you know literally ducked the guy was in a hazmat suit in the uber the uber was like cellophane wrapped like you, you know, the partition. It was from 12 Monkeys.
Starting point is 02:29:07 Remember that movie? That's exactly what it was from. And then he dropped us off two blocks from the Uber. And, you know, he had a camera. We're filming stuff. And the walk from the Uber to the apartment was I never felt that way in New York. I mean, it was pretty wild. Like you were looking at stuff and you were going like, this is teetering on a real big problem. Like there's just people out in the streets now you know if you were a tourist you would not be yeah that's
Starting point is 02:29:31 our uber driver if you were a tourist or if you were somebody visiting the city it would not be a place you would feel comfortable or safe they defunded the police by like 100 million dollars they're taking money away and they're gonna have less cops and then instead of trying to figure out and solve some of these problems they're just trying to like again they want to win on twitter they want to win the war on twitter right it's like that's what hillary clinton she tried to win the election on twitter that was a big thing like the thing is even the progressives are attacking de blasio well they hate him too i mean everybody hates he's he's he's across the board incompetent incompetent eats pizza with a fork yes and nobody trusts nobody trusts him. And he's just an empty-headed goon.
Starting point is 02:30:06 Yeah. That's a good way to describe him. Yeah. Yeah. There's no de Blasio fans now. It's a dark time for New York City. And I don't know how it bounces back. I don't know who's right, James Altucher or Jerry Seinfeld.
Starting point is 02:30:17 But that was amusing. They're both wrong because neither one of them are living in New York City. So Jerry Seinfeld has a trillion-dollar home in Hampton. And James Altucher is in Florida selling God only knows survivalist kits out of his basement living in New York City. So Jerry Seinfeld has a trillion dollar home in Hampton and James Altucher's in Florida selling God only knows survivalist kits out of his basement. And I like him, but you know, I think it just ebbs and flows.
Starting point is 02:30:33 I think it's a cycle. I think you're in for some years of darkness. Ari likes it. Good, the artists are gonna move in. Yeah, right. Who are the artists, Ari? New York City needs to be gritty. Yeah, who are the artists?
Starting point is 02:30:43 The TikToker? TikTokers are moving in. They're gonna take over. Yeah, that's what we need City needs to be gritty. Yeah, who are the artists? The TikToker? TikTokers are moving in. They're going to take over. Yeah, that's what we need. We need punk rockers. Yeah. I think that's possible that it happens in a few years. Things get bad.
Starting point is 02:30:52 Lower the rents. Right, lower the rents. The artists come in. And then maybe, listen, then you see architects start taking big chances again because the rents are cheaper. They start building cool buildings, reinventing public spaces.
Starting point is 02:31:04 There's some type of renaissance. I mean, look after world war ii we had a real big boom in the 50s they're gonna need a giuliani well they're gonna need somebody they're gonna need somebody so is la la is gonna need some guy who comes in and puts his fucking foot down and it'll have to get really bad before that you know when giuliani got elected i think it was in in the in 1990 there was like 29 or 3 000 homicides in in manhattan. That's a big difference, 29 or 3,000. No, it was 2,900 or 3,000. No, it was literally, it was almost 3,000 homicides. And then we got it down to like 400 or 500 a year.
Starting point is 02:31:35 That's a massive difference in the amount of people getting killed. Forget maimed and shot and all these other crimes. Well, the feeling of Times Square, I remember it from back in those days. It was weird. Yeah. You'd be like, this place is sketchy. Well, the feeling of Times Square, I remember it from back in those days. It was weird. You'd be like, this place is sketchy. Let's get out of here. Now, it was like a mall. And Giuliani, he did a great job, but because he's
Starting point is 02:31:53 kind of a little bit of a cretin and a lot of people forgot how bad it was, they don't give him any of the credit for that. They say all of the credits to go to somebody else, but the reality was it was a lot of the new initiatives that he kind of brought forward. Well, here's the thing. As much as you like to think progressively
Starting point is 02:32:08 and be a person who's open-minded, that's who I am. Yeah, not me. You need law and order. You do. You need a civilization. You fucking need it. You need a society.
Starting point is 02:32:18 We need a society. And you need punishment for people who break those rules. We need to have a society. Otherwise, we have nothing else. That's why the amount of people that glorify or excuse random acts of violence against people and private property in the pursuit of a political aim,
Starting point is 02:32:32 to me, that is the single craziest development in my life, I'm 35, that I've seen, that the media and even political figures excuse random violence and chaos against innocent people and their property in service of an overall political point that is crazy cnn yeah since when does a protest have to be peaceful that's crazy see that is a crazy thing to say do you think that's what a disgusting scripts that for him someone says i don't know how't know. How does that work? I don't know, but I don't think it's scripted.
Starting point is 02:33:06 I think he has a mind virus. I think he's sick. I think they're all sick and something's eating their brains. Maybe drop one of those hundred pounds. And I think they all think that when the revolution or whatever happens, they want to be this. I want to be the good white guy who said, go out there and burn it all down. I'm your friend. Right.
Starting point is 02:33:24 Remember me? Right. Even though I'm a rich white guy and you don't like them, I told there and burn it all down i'm your friend right remember me even though i'm a rich white guy and you don't like them i told you to burn it down we're good right we're not they're gonna get you too you're their enemy too dummy you know what they are you remember that video where there's these kids in the in the house and they're watching these people march by and they give them the thumbs up people start throwing rocks to the window but we agree with you hey i'm on your side that's exactly when you unleash chaos you you're inviting chaos yes there's no way to contain it and i think the cuomas of the world and all of those people are trying to marshal
Starting point is 02:33:54 the forces that they're they're opening up a comedian friend of mine janice papa said it because they're opening up the gates of hell they're opening up the gates of hell and then they're trying to like instruct everybody where to go and and how bad the fires are going to get and it's like dude when you open up those gates you have no idea what's going to happen november 3rd we'll talk let's go let's make it happen let's go tim dillon ladies and gentlemen thank you follow him on twitter and the instagram what is it tim j dillon on instagram d-i-l-l-o-n on instagram and twitter where i think we should all be spending more time. Woo! Thanks, brother.
Starting point is 02:34:26 Appreciate you. Bye, everybody.

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