The Joe Rogan Experience - #1555 - Alex Jones & Tim Dillon

Episode Date: October 27, 2020

Tim Dillon is a standup comedian, actor, and host of the Tim Dillon Show. Alex Jones is a filmmaker, writer, and host of the Alex Jones Show. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day young jamie back in the fucking saddle how you feeling very well thank you covid free four days in a row now kicked it yeah kicked it. Yeah. Now, you still can't taste anything? Can't taste anything. Well, it's starting to come back today, but yeah, like 5% taste. It's got to be pickle juice. It doesn't even taste like anything. Really?
Starting point is 00:00:32 It just tastes like water? Mm-hmm. Whoa. Very weird. But you don't have any residual symptoms? Nothing wrong? All good. I can breathe everything.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Good to see you back, buddy. Oh, too. Good. We're a little worried about you. Thanks. A little worried about you. Not worried about you. Alex Jones. This is the most anticipated thing I ever did
Starting point is 00:00:49 I've probably had, no exaggeration 2 or 3 thousand people in the last year and a half Asked me, when are you going back on Joe Rogan And I'm always saying, I don't know, I don't know And then I learned, you were moving here like 3 or 4 months ago And now we're here, this is exciting I don't get butterflies anymore But I actually have them here
Starting point is 00:01:04 And this is great, it's good to have butterflies After about 20 years Didn't get butterflies anymore, but I actually have them here. And this is great. It's good to have butterflies after about 20 years. Didn't get the last two times I was on. Didn't get it when I interviewed Trump. Didn't get in a lot of things, but I've got butterflies here today. And Tim, motherfucking Tim. Yeah, I'm just a kid in a candy store. Me too.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Thank you for making this dream come true. This is what I've always wanted to do, and we've made it happen. This is my make a wish. I can die happy. Well, I'm happy you're here. Yeah, I got my free Ghislaine shirt because I believe all women. Is that how you say it? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I thought it was Ghislaine. I thought it was Ghislaine. It might be Ghislaine. It's Ghislaine. Do you know? Look at me. Ghislaine? It's Ghislaine.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Ghislaine? That's a ridiculous name. Yeah. Her father was a famous MI6 massage spy that reportedly used sex operatives to control people. He died being thrown off a yacht in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. And, of course, she got caught in that farmhouse on the East Coast. And she was really the pimp over Epstein and a giant sex network ring over scientists that they were compromising so they could control not just government but industry and science and so that was the master blackmail operation they were running and her sisters are big in tech like isabel maxwell she has sisters that are in u.s tech
Starting point is 00:02:15 companies i think two of her sisters uh were part of the creation of magellan which was that big search engine like really so yeah they are a very powerful family and they have all kinds of different operations her dad was the biggest publisher in england and also the biggest owner of private tv stations in england and when he died it turned out he was a front basically for intelligence networks now let me right off the bat say you were telling me about Epstein and this island years ago. You were telling me long before anybody. I think you told me about him before his first arrest. A long time ago.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I talked about how they have these islands. They fly. They compromise children. But I learned all this from Ted Gunderson 20 plus years ago. He was in line to be the FBI director. He was the head of the FBI in Los Angeles. He was a very famous fbi agent he even ran co and tell pro it's a civil rights movement he apologized for that before he died uh in the 2011 but he came out and he was the one that explained to me about how they use these these blackmail rings elements the cia uh and foreign
Starting point is 00:03:22 intelligence groups and and how they would basically make people have sex with children to be part of these clubs and these cults they were setting up. So I knew about all this from Ted Gunderson. Were they young girls that, did they tell them these girls were underage, or did they look like they were older? Like this, the Borat movie, where they supposedly got... Try to set Giuliani up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:44 If you haven't seen it, it's very disappointing. They set him up. I saw it, yeah. They did set him up, but nothing happened. They made it look like Giuliani was jerking off in front of this girl. He was taking his mic off. He would have to be the biggest savage on earth to jerk off in that situation. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And they also said that he inappropriately touched her back. When he touched her back, I am not exaggerating, it was like this. Right. said that he inappropriately touched her back when he touched her back i am not exaggerating it was like this right it was a couple of light taps on the back while she was close to him taking off his mic thing he goes oh thank you very much dear and he goes just i just need your name and your phone number and then she takes off his mic and then he leans back and he's tucking his shirt back because he just pulled the mic out right but he's lying on the bed to do it now if you're an old man and i'm sure he's probably got a bad back like that's probably how you would do it but any of us that have had to put the mics on our side and then you put it in your pants up
Starting point is 00:04:33 your shirt and then you've got he gets to be you've got to get it out that's what you do but but it's worse than that remember when he was playing the who was the gay character he played like 10 years ago bruno bruno yeah remember congressman ron paul at the time was had run for president and he's in the hotel he goes oh the light broke please step into this room so there's no chair ron paul sits down and he's reading a newspaper and bruno comes in and pulls his pants down and says i want to have sex with you now that would be sexual assault if that was a man to a woman right ron paul pushes him out of the way he goes out of the room and so this is what he does he's done this to other people it's his specialty is to say you're
Starting point is 00:05:08 being interviewed listen let me just before we go any further i fucking love he's very funny i think he's brilliant i think he's amazing but his interpretation of what happened in the room with rudy giuliani it's it's not accurate in my opinion well listen i mean and who is america he's he's tapping her while she's touching him and removing his mic he does this little tap on her waist but it's not creepy it's like an old man like a little tap tap tap right Like, if you want to take it out of context, like, I don't know if there's more to it than what we're seeing. But let's go further. Let's go further.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Right after this happens, Barat, Sachs-Berr Cohen, runs in in panties and a bra saying, have sex with me. He's 15 G2 old. Yes. So this is, and Giuliani's like, what the, I'd have a heart attack. Like, what is this? Listen, my fucking 12-year-old sense of humor loved it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:05 But the thing about it is they're making it seem like Giuliani was jerking off in front of her. Yeah. And that's not, like, he lies back and he's tucking his pants. Like, can we show the whole thing so we can look at it? We don't have to. They put it on as promotional material. What's that, Jamie?
Starting point is 00:06:21 We can watch it in here, but I don't be. Well, let's just. I mean, I think Jamie's right. If you're a big show, they'll try to tag you. But they put this out as promotional material to What's that, Jamie? We can watch it in here, but I don't be. Well, let's just. I mean, I think Jamie's right. If you're a big show, they'll try to tag you. Yeah, they put this out as promotional material to be promoted.
Starting point is 00:06:30 They put it out on Twitter. The clip is on Miss Pat's. Give a shout out to Miss Pat. I mean, Jamie's technically right, though, on Instagram. It's on her Instagram. If you want to. But let me drop a bombshell
Starting point is 00:06:39 on you, Joe. OK, but a bombshell. No, no. I've been a big fan of Sasha Barrett Cohen until I learned he spoke at the ADL last year and called for my arrest for
Starting point is 00:06:50 free speech. And he called for Jeff Zuckerberg's arrest. Or Mark Zuckerberg's arrest. So he called for my arrest and for Mark Zuckerberg's arrest for free speech. Hey, he wants to work in Hollywood. Right. You gotta do what you gotta do. No, but let's go further. I don't agree with it.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I mean, he said arrest people for their free speech, and he supports internet censorship. So how does he make his money being this avant-garde, cutting-edge, really over-the-edge comic that does things that can technically be seen as illegal? I support his free speech, and then he says, I don't deserve it. It's really dangerous. Well, he's flawed, like many great artists. Yeah. says i don't deserve it well it's really dangerous he's flawed like many great artists yeah you know i mean i i'm until they come for him he's not going to understand this slippery slope of censorship
Starting point is 00:07:30 and you know this is another thing that you know people have uh people have criticized me for being friends with you and for talking to you and they also criticized me for not supporting a lot of these people that got uh banned and deplatformed my take on it has always been the best way to counter wrong speech is correct speech when someone says something that's wrong or someone says a conspiracy theory that's not accurate the best way to counter that is is to do better speech, to have people say the accurate information and to let the truth rise to the top. When you start censoring people, the problem is it's a fucking slippery slope. And there's a reason why we've been so steadfast in supporting the First Amendment in this country. And people think it doesn't apply to tech because these tech institutes are private businesses and they should be able to do whatever they want with their private business the problem is that fucking slippery slope has gone from
Starting point is 00:08:29 censoring you from banning alex jones off twitter a year and a half ago to getting the white house press secretary banned off twitter because she posts something from the new york post which is crazy it's crazy it's that's a 200 and whatever year old newspaper and they and what she said the the post what the what they put printed and put out there is accurate well let's go further let's go further they're denying that that it's a real story but they don't ever say the emails are fake they just say it's a smear no it's a real laptop the videos have been released it's confirmed and but just think about this it is, it is a smear in that they're putting it out there. They're timing it.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Sure, but they're not denying it's real. No, it's real. It's real. How did this laptop become this big story? That's where it gets tricky. Yeah, I'm curious. Because supposedly he dropped it off at a laptop repair shop in Delaware. What an idiot.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I mean, who's doing that? Well, Crackhead. Right, right. Good point. The guy's smoking crack. I keep forgetting he smokes crack. Well, he did at the time. Apparently he's kicked it.
Starting point is 00:09:33 So congratulations to him. But the guy had some problems. This is self-admitted. And they have the receipts. And here's the thing. He calls him dozens of times. Everybody knows when you bring a laptop or anything and they say if you don't pay for this we're going to wipe it and
Starting point is 00:09:48 sell it and so three months goes by six months goes by nobody ever comes and gets it the guy goes to look at it at the repair shop the owner and there's all these 25,000 files what looks like underage girls and all the rest of this crazy stuff and him smoking crack or god knows what he gives to the FBIbi ray does nothing the director hides it from trump and so people let's just say inside that had copies of that they leak it to rudolph giuliani who then now has started to put it out so instead of instead of facing up to it they just say anyone promoting this whether it's the house or senate committees that we're linking to it or the new york post or the president's press secretary you're now banned which again shows it's it's election meddling it's it's gatekeeping
Starting point is 00:10:29 to cover this up but i'll tell you what else has come out now his daughter biden's daughters uh purportedly reportedly and they've not denied it now this broke three days ago left her diary in a house that she had rented. And the diary talks about all the same stuff and everything. That is so convenient. What the fuck is wrong with this family? Will you jump in? Hold on a second. When I was looking into this, the thing I keep seeing people say is that he lived in California.
Starting point is 00:10:55 He lived in California at the time. That is true? But they fly back and forth to Delaware. These are jet setters. They fly to Ukraine. That also might make sense that that's why he didn't go back to Delaware to pick up the laptop. Because when you're cracked out in California, it's really hard to make the flight. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Right? I don't know. I guess so. Tim is the only one here who's probably smoked crack. Guys, the FBI confirms they have the laptop now. I will confirm it's not an easy flight coming down off cocaine or crack. Yeah. Have you smoked crack or just coke?
Starting point is 00:11:22 I've free-based cocaine, which is- Well, that's basically the same. Yeah, it's close. How close is it? Not as close as where i ever went and made shady deals in the ukraine well that's never done that by the way that's in the emails that's in the emails finally where it's like yeah i mean 30 million part of it goes the big guy they're like okay we want to meet with your dad there's photos of them meeting and playing golf so let me tell you this is real the f FBI has the files. They admit it's real.
Starting point is 00:11:46 It's a big deal. But it's a real problem to ban this stuff from Twitter. Putin rejects Donald Trump's criticism of Biden family business. Well, because it's Russia's bribing Hunter Biden. 3.5 million through Putin, through the Moscow mayor, who he's friends with, to Hunter Biden again. Well, if I was Putin, I would deny it too listen putin has got to love this if i was putin sitting back right watching these fucking people eat themselves alive and destroy the first amendment destroy
Starting point is 00:12:16 democracy yeah it's great i'm sure they have a hand in it i'm sure china has a hand in it i'm sure iran has a hand yeah this is what the intelligence communities have been telling us for a long time now, is that it's not just one foreign company or foreign country that's trying to fuck with our democracy. Yeah, the idea that the Russians have a monopoly on this. I mean, if the Russians were an NFL football team, they'd be like the lower third. The U.S. and China are the top teams. And we should say the lower third. The U.S. and China are the top teams. And we should say the United States does it too.
Starting point is 00:12:48 It's 100% confirmed. The idea that Russians got Trump in is asinine because here's what happens. Notice they tried to impeach Trump just nine months ago for stuff in Ukraine because whatever they are worried about, they project. Okay? So Trump doesn't
Starting point is 00:13:04 have Russia connections. Trump doesn't have Russia connections. Trump doesn't have those connections. Trump doesn't have those outside connections. You can't buy him. He doesn't have lobbyists. The problem is he then has family and people around him that basically become lobbyists for themselves. And Trump isn't really even aware of it. And then that's going on.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I mean, even junior aides now you'll find out have people giving them millions of dollars you just to say something to the president is this standard shit is this just stand how politics have always been done it's just now we're seeing it well it was standard let's say 200 years ago that you'd go out for the wife or the brother or or somebody that works at the white house it got organized the last 100 years with lobbyists trump literally cut the lobbyist off but all it did was now make everyone around him a lobbyist, even though they're not officially a lobbyist. How did he cut the lobbyists off? He just stopped meeting with them and stopped and just said, I want briefings on what's going on. I'll decide. So that's why he pissed official
Starting point is 00:13:55 Washington off. Not that he's even perfect, but that he actually became the president for making decisions himself instead of having consortiums and lobbyists pay him for policy. That's why he says Biden's raised more money than me. Of course, I can call up all these companies. They'll give me any money I want, but I've got to do what they say. But it would put him in a compromised position. Yes, but I'm being honest about it. The vacuum and the blind spot is that then everyone around him in his cabinet
Starting point is 00:14:19 and everyone that works there, even down to mid-level people, are now getting multimillionmillion dollar contracts for companies like AT&T and stuff just to just to just to even mention something to the president hold up before you go any further you said AT&T does it have been proven that it's AT&T or are you just saying AT&T like companies like let's just say I'm not saying AT&T is bad I think AT&T is overall good company but is AT&T doing something bad no I just I was mentioning that as a fortune 500 company okay but it's not AT&T no it's not AT&T so we shouldn't say that see this is why you need someone that's like a fact checker right no no go slow down the media will say I'm wrong right
Starting point is 00:14:56 about that but okay okay but no no hold on his personal lawyer his personal lawyer the one that ended up going to jail actually Michaelael cohen michael cohen was getting money from at&t go ahead and pull it up i mean i was just trying to give you a gestalt quick analysis but i just want to i've told you before what you really need on your show is like a a legit journalist who's right next to you with a laptop going alex hold on hold on just slow down but i think you're right about that because you get so much right but when you get something wrong that's what we understand is at&t confirms it paid trump lawyer michael cohen's company yeah no i remember that see joe yeah they're always saying that i'm making stuff up they're lying right right now every once
Starting point is 00:15:35 in a while my memory used to be photographic but from everything i've done it's not as good as it used to be it moves really quick okay so when i'm saying stuff it's just data knowledge okay and then i can like okay yeah did i say that yeah it's real check it out but i'm not trying to make stuff up 99 of the time here it is at&t confirmed tuesday evening that paid president trump's personal lawyer michael cohen in 2017 for in quotes insights into understanding the new administration insights i love that um so how much they pay $200,000 and four separate payments of $50 in late 2017, early 2018. Interesting. Yeah, but he got paid, I think the number was $10 million total from a handful of companies.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And by the way, AT&T is- He did it shady. Look, Avenatti alleged that Essential Consultants, a shell company set up by Cohen before the election to pay Stormy Daniels, was paid by several corporations, including AT&T. At the time, AT&T was seeking government approval for its acquisition of Time Warner, CNN's parent company. It's a merger. It's a dirty world.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Yeah, but I'm telling you, AT&T is a sweetheart compared to Google and Facebook and Twitter and all these people. So I wasn't attacking them. I was giving the example of how everyone in his entourage becomes a lobbyist because he thinks I'll just cut lobbyists off. He's not taking any money. But then everyone around him becomes a lobbyist. That's what I'm saying. Do you worry about the influence of people like Jared Kushner have? Because I know a lot of biggest, his supporters, like Ann Coulter, who's Trump's biggest supporter, goes, I don't love the idea that he hired his children and that they have a lot of connections i can tell you this i can tell you this people were really pissed who were patriots
Starting point is 00:17:09 the intelligence community and other areas but also enemies of trump that kushner had so much influence but now kushner's gotten a lot of respect because he's actually gotten a lot of huge peace deals done that nobody else could do for 50 years and now interesting how little press those peace deals yeah they're getting none. No press. Yeah, it's really concerning. So now, I mean, they were pissed, like, who's this kid? And now everything he touches turns to gold?
Starting point is 00:17:31 But he looks like the omen. We've covered this multiple times. He looks like a little devilish. He looks like Damien. And he paid twice what it was worth for, like, 666 Park Avenue. Oh, Jesus Christ. That's not good. That's not great.
Starting point is 00:17:42 That's not great. Why would he want that? I think it was more than twice. Look up 666. Is it Park Avenue? Listen, maybe he just thinks it's funny. Maybe he's a Satanist. He's getting good deals done in the Middle East.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Yeah, I mean, he's getting good deals. They say the Antichrist gets good deals in the Middle East. If you're going to be a Luciferian, at least make peace in the Mideast. How about that? Maybe Satan's the only one that can do that. AT&T's a really good cell phone company. Yeah, right? Hey, hey. It's the way it that can do that. AT&T's a really good cell phone company. Yeah. Right? Hey.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Hey. It's the way it works. I mean, you want to... When I mentioned AT&T, it's an example that popped in my head of unofficial lobbying. Well, I was happy that we called you on it because then we found out it's correct. Yeah. Yeah. Look, you've been correct about a lot of shit. This is my point from jump.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I found out about agent provocateurs from you, from your 9-11 road to tyranny video where they used them at the world trade organization protests in Seattle in the late 90s like I had no idea that it was a common practice to send in masked people to start smashing things during peaceful protests so then they could go by the way I can give you the straight dope on Antifa if you want to do that. Go ahead. Okay. Yeah. Hold on a second. 666 Park Avenue project had been a black hole of cash for years until a sovereign wealth fund made a substantial investment for the property after Kushner was already serving
Starting point is 00:18:57 as Trump's top advisor in the White House. Wow. Okay. Might be a nice building. What does it say? The Kushner Company? Is that what his company's called? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:07 His dad went to prison. The Kushner Company's 666 Park Avenue project. That's hilarious. I think that's beautiful. His dad went to prison for, I believe, setting up his brother with a prostitute or something. Yeah. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:20 They're a fun family, the Kushners. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. The dad set up the brother? With a prostitute, a cold girl, and taped him to try to get trapped. Step by step, we're going to fact check every one of these. No, no. This is well known.
Starting point is 00:19:32 This is well known. I understand, but we need to have this for the public. People like me and Alex don't just spout off. We have the facts. I know. You have the facts, but I want to make sure. Here. Chris Christie, Jared Kushner's father, committed one of the most loathsome, disgusting crimes
Starting point is 00:19:44 I prosecuted. Wow. Wow. Listen, we fact check all of this. That is crazy. Make that bigger for my old eyes. Look at this. What does it say?
Starting point is 00:19:54 According to the excerpts in the book, Republished by Axios and The Guardian, Christie claims the younger Kushner was behind his departure from Trump's inner circle after a 2016 election, writing that he was still apparently seething over the events that had occurred a decade ago. What is the events of a decade ago? They over-prosecuted his dad. He should have gotten probation for trying to set up his brother with a hooker.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Said he got a bunch of time. Imagine your dad setting you up with a hooker. It's crazy. Trying to set the other family member up. Here's what... If my father is guilty, I would. Mr. Kutcher pled guilty. He admitted the crimes, Christy said.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And so what am I supposed to do as a prosecutor? I mean, if a guy hires a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law... Oh, it's his brother-in-law. That's what he said. His brother-in-law. His brother-in-law. Okay. I got confused.
Starting point is 00:20:39 And then videotapes it and then sends the videotape to his sister to attempt to intimidate her from testifying before a grand jury do i really need any more justification than that holy but it wasn't to intimidate that's his interpretation that stuff goes on divorces all the time people go videotape the other person cheating so that's why it was wrong he went to prison because he wasn't doing it he was doing that to show that the person testifying was wrong of course you're trying to influence testimony with the truth. It's this idea that, yes, they're cheating. I told you they were.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Here's the proof. How does that become fraud? Okay, I'm confused. So he set up his brother-in-law with a prostitute. To show that this was been going on before, which he'd already alleged. Okay, as part of the plot, Kushner hired a prostitute to lure Shoulder
Starting point is 00:21:22 into having sex in a Bridgewater, New Jersey motel room. First of all, if you having sex In a Bridgewater, New Jersey motel room First of all, if you find yourself in a Bridgewater, New Jersey motel room You're fucked Run As the hidden camera rolls A tape of the encounter was then sent to Kushner's sister And Shoulder's wife I know the whole story
Starting point is 00:21:39 Just trust us I just made a comment that You start thinking about who's running these stories and Hunter Biden's running around with underage people on a laptop. You start going, why does everyone work for a Ukrainian gas company? Who are these people running the country? Yeah, the West controlled Ukraine, so they just use that as the money laundering op. It's not the Ukrainians running us.
Starting point is 00:22:00 They use it as that. But let's expand on this, Joe. What I'm getting at here is I didn't bring up AT&T they're a good company overall they're not the ones censoring and stuff okay it's the big tech the reason i raised that was just the one that pops in my head the first one it's massive what's going on i'm just being honest that trump's tried a couple hundred grand like i mean as much as that sounds like a lot of money but the bigger ones like he's talking about communist china amazon communist china is even bigger. It's bigger than big tech. It literally spends hundreds of billions of dollars buying us off. It owns Hollywood. It owns a lot of the big telecoms.
Starting point is 00:22:32 It owns the majority of our debt. And I've got articles in the LA Times and New York Times I brought for you where they say Xi Jinping must destroy Trump to save America. He was our leader. And then at the Davos group, he said three years ago, I will destroy Trump. I will work with Hollywood. I've got all his quotes right here. And Xi Jinping said, I want to overthrow American democracy. I want to repudiate it.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I want to discredit it. And Xi Jinping admits he admires Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin. Okay, but isn't he doing that? That's crazy. That seems crazy. You can pull it up. I understand.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I'll show you. Step by step here. Isn't he doing that because of Trump's trade deals? Like the trade deals that Trump wants to do with China are not nearly. Well, they're not one sided for him. Here's what happened. Special interests in the U.S. went in and opened up China in the 70s when most of them didn't have running water or electricity. They're hardworking, smart folks.
Starting point is 00:23:23 But by one sided trade deals where we have higher tariffs on them than they on us and all the rest of it or vice versa, through those deals, they use the slave labor of China to then take over manufacturing worldwide. And so China is a client state of the globalists. And so now the Washington Post, the L.A. Times, the New York Times, I brought you the articles here, Dreams of Red Emperor, The Relentless Rise of Xi Jinping, and it says in these articles, he must destroy American Western Christian values. We love him, and we accept China as our master. I have the goddamn articles. Right, but who's saying that? This is treason.
Starting point is 00:23:56 The freaking, dude, right here, Washington Post. But who's saying that quote? Who's that quote? Here, I'll give them to you. This is the Washington Post, and there's a huge article, LA Times. I understand, but the quote that you just said about he must destroy Trump. Just like I said AT&T gave money unofficially lobbying, and you pulled it up. I read the article.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I'm not giving you the exact. I understand what you're saying. But what I'm asking you is who you quoted someone, but who did you quote when you said that? I'm quoting from when I read these again this morning before I came here. What I remember, David Dry durley oh that guy and and uh this this chinese lady that i think he's talking about the prevailing sentiment of what they feel they must understand but when you quote somebody it's best no no no i mean i just said in these articles right well look at the headline g's choice destroy trump or save him from weakened
Starting point is 00:24:45 america i mean right g needs to destroy trump the chinese dictator needs to destroy our president so do you think that they're doing that because trump wants to change the trade deals you know what trump said trump didn't start a trade war he ended our surrender we have been surrendered for 40 years with china where they don't take our goods, but we take all of theirs. And they manipulate their currency, but we haven't manipulated ours. Where we have carbon taxes that Obama put in to shut down over half our coal plants that are clean. And our electricity prices went up where you could not run a factory here competitively
Starting point is 00:25:16 against China. So when Joe Biden says, we're going to cut off all the fossil fuels, not just fracking. If you did that, we wouldn't just go bankrupt. We'd starve to death. 75% of our power comes from fossil fuels i understand let's step by step again are coal plants really clean 100 clean how is that possible i'll tell you please okay there's two different types of major power they say when he says clean coal i roll my eyes every time when trump's like clean coal clean well that's because the engine is so damn good. Is it? I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Please. They had old-fashioned coal plants. China doesn't have one scrubber or filter on their coal power plants. And China doesn't have clean burning coal. There's one place in the United States that has major deposits of coal that is such pure carbon. You don't even need scrubbers. Nothing comes out but carbon dioxide and water. Well, they know we
Starting point is 00:26:05 know water's not bad, so they list carbon dioxide. People think it's monoxide. It's like in studies, if you say the scientific name of water, most people in Penn and Teller skits on the street will say banned dihydrogen monoxide. If you go out on the street, Joe Rogan, and ask 100 Austinites, dihydrogen monoxide is everywhere. If you get too much of it, you can die, drown. And most people will say, I want to ban the hydrogen monoxide. That's the scientific name of water. Same thing if you do the scientific name of salt. Sounds scary. Well, so, so hydrogen monoxide is the bad one. Hydrogen dioxide is a good one. That's the life cycle. On earth, there's, there's light, there's water, there's oxygen, light there's water there's oxygen and there's carbon dioxide those are the four things you've got to have for for life and so they've gotten people convinced to
Starting point is 00:26:50 say coal is dirty it puts out carbon dioxide and water vapor and so until about the 70s we were still burning dirty coal full of mercury all of it they found huge deposits of clean burning coal out west enough in utah around the whole world for over 1,000 years. Well, what's the difference between the coal? Well, let me tell you. One coal is so damn pure, and it's only in the United States in major deposits, that basically you don't even need to put scrubbers on it. But our scientists in the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s,
Starting point is 00:27:18 because they realized that dirty coal has mercury in it, has all these horrible toxins, they put scrubbers on it. That's why when you drive by a coal plant, it's this big buildings and wires and and and hoses and big huge steel looks like an alien spaceship that's because it's called distillates they know how to burn it and then take off all the chemicals all the toxins and make plastics and make chemicals and make pesticides and make everything else that comes out of that and then out of the stack comes nothing but what they have sensors on it nothing but water and carbon dioxide totally clean totally pure so so that's what's going on so carbon monoxide is what everybody's
Starting point is 00:27:51 worried about carbon dioxide increasing in the environment has no negative effects let's talk about it they've done they've done ice core samples okay all over the antarctic and the arctic they've done mud core samples uh in in all over the world but mainly in siberia and wales for some reason jamie i hope you're googling i haven't got some decent stuff to pull up but he's go ahead yeah better right now so so so what happens is they they can go back 20 000 100 000 200 000 years at least in the ice and they know that they've also done spectrometers into stone they can scan it till it was there carbon dioxide was over 500 times stronger uh in the time of the
Starting point is 00:28:32 t-rex okay in the jurassic age that's why plants grew so fast things were so big there was a higher oxygen level just like mars lost its atmosphere used to have an ocean they've now gone and proven it lost its atmosphere as a smaller planet couldn't hold it truth is the earth's losing its atmosphere so what's crazy is we come right along at this time pump up all of this juice and all this carbon that was produced on the surface with plants and animals that ran down and cracks into the earth we're now pumping out all that carbon saved for millions years ago and actually terraforming the planet putting more carbon dioxide in that we actually need right this time like aliens figure this out but hold please but hold please isn't carbon dioxide responsible for an increase in the temperature of the earth
Starting point is 00:29:14 but they said that we would have a seven increase they said that by 2013 all that la would be flooded to new york people flooded all that's lies okay but let's forget about what they said in the past what they're saying now is that carbon dioxide increase is responsible for an increase in the temperature of the earth which which which we hope it does because we hope it increases the temperature the last ice age hold up but hold on the increase of the temperature but the increase in the temperature of the earth is responsible for the increase in hurricanes, the frequency and the power of the hurricanes. If you look up the spectrum in the last hundred years, hurricanes have gotten weaker. That's all media hype.
Starting point is 00:29:51 But let me just tell you. Oh, Jesus. Joe, Joe, Joe, I swear to God, I swear to God I can prove all this to you. This is so huge for your audience. Are you a carbon dioxide salesman? Listen, well, they always say I'm getting money from oil companies. I'm not. But can I please tell you what's going on?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Yes, please do. You are a carbon-based life form. Let me show you what I came here with in my notes. I have right here in my notes the carbon conspiracy, and that is specifically what I wanted to get into here with you in my notes because this is everything. Are you a climate change denier? Well, see, imagine how that's how they use that term. Right everything are you a climate change denier well see see imagine imagine how that's how they use that term right are you a climate change denier it's like a 9-11 denier right no the towers got blown up our government had prior warning and
Starting point is 00:30:34 have been funding al-qaeda and all that came out later in senate reports and the 28 pages let's not go there just now because we're going to go down that that's true but let's go to carbon i that i agree with you there okay what are What is Joe Rogan made up out of? Carbon. Okay. Carbon-based life form. We are literally stardust. It's a song, right?
Starting point is 00:30:51 Exactly. What are trees made out of? Tree stuff? Carbon. Carbon. Yeah, carbon-based life forms. The whole planet. And so this is the carbon cycle.
Starting point is 00:31:02 This is in the mainline textbooks. I understand. So just like they come out in Assault Reality now and say, planet and so this is the carbon cycle this is in the mainline textbooks i understand so so just like they they come out in assault reality now and say a little boy is biologically a girl i don't care if he grows up once be a say he's a girl rabbit hole let's not go down but i'm saying it's not science they go the science is settled there's not two genders okay b fucking s okay hold on let's not go down that road well you want to go to that road in the future we will right now i'll do it let me tell you i want you to talk about carbon i know i don't want to go to that road in the future? We will. But right now, I want you to talk about carbon.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I don't want to get off track here because isn't there a delicate balance with the temperature on Earth and the rising sea levels and the melting of the ice caps? This has all been established by a lot of very concerned environmentalists have said that an increase in the temperature of the earth could be disastrous for human civilization. It's a power grab. Are you sure it's a power grab? I am absolutely freaking literally sure. But how do you know that it's not all...
Starting point is 00:31:50 How do you know that... Because they're arrogant, and they've all written white papers on it that I've read, and I can give you. White papers? Yeah, it's not what you see in the news. They're called white papers. And, Joe, just like...
Starting point is 00:32:01 This is why people get banned from the internet. These kind of conversations. We better ban it right now. Let's not ban it. I'm just, I'll throw that out. Let's just not. Let's certainly not ban the Dan Allen YouTube page. Let me tell you the story.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Fantastic, by the way. What? Your YouTube page. Thank you. Let me tell you this right now. It'll be up for another 24 hours. They have called in the European Union for the arrest of scientists that question the cause of anthropogenic warming or Ibbots man-made. Okay, but there is a contributing factor.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Scientifically, it's been proven that increased carbon dioxide has an effect on the temperature of the Earth. Do you agree with that? It depends on the models they use. Sometimes, actually actually more carbon dioxide could cause a cooling effect but generally could cause a heating effect it depends on potash the atmosphere volcanic ejections at the time and also solar maximum and many minimums if you have sunspot activity is the main generator of planetary climate but the wide if you had a a giant swath of scientists that are examining carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
Starting point is 00:33:06 would you agree that the majority of them believe that it's a contributing factor to the warming of the earth it's a mantra where they say the majority of scientists agree that climate change has caused by humans i agree with climate change the only thing that's constant is change of course the climate's changing what i'm telling you is carbon dioxide was 50 to 500 times depending on the time period higher millions of years ago yeah it is now right but that's but you also realize that that was what do you think this might be interesting to hear what do you think the motivation is for them to present the evidence in this way like you said this is a fraud and everything what because i've heard you talk about
Starting point is 00:33:45 this before um what do you think their goal is by linking all of this climate change to man-made activity what's the goal the goal is a centralized world government that can then monitor all carbon and control it as a toxic bad thing your carbon it makes you bad that didn't work so now it's oh you have a cold you're dirty with covid we've got to track you and tax you and control you so the new thing is covid to cut the carbon footprint and they admit that before we go down the covid rabbit hole they're the environmentalists are not in bed with the industrialists the environmentalists are they're not in bed with all these people that think that they can control the the world's, BP and ExxonMobil and others are the biggest funders of the climate change movement.
Starting point is 00:34:28 They're the biggest funders of it? Contrary to what you hear. How so? All right, Joe, here's the thing. I understand this, and you're a smart guy, and I understand you want to go over each piece of this. Let's go through. Well, we have to.
Starting point is 00:34:38 We have to. I agree. Let's go through each piece. But understand, you understand that the way you talk, and I enjoy the way you talk. It's fast. But the way you talk is fast, and you go on these long tangents, and then you go to frogs being gay. And a lot of things happen.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Because I'm putting a record out. Yes, but I want to do it step by step. All right, let's do this. Let's do this. But most people, the vast majority, here we got here, BP commits $100 million to fund new emissions reductions projects. Well, let me just go back for a second. I appreciate you backing me up. Let me break down.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Are frogs gay? You want to get to the frog stuff now? Connect it all. Why do I feel like I'm stoned and I haven't smoked my pot? If he's not going to smoke it, I'm going to smoke it. God, it's sober October. Break the goddamn rule
Starting point is 00:35:26 and then go an extra day. I cannot. I cannot. I'm like George Washington. Well, hey, on election night, we're going to get hammered, right? Mm-hmm. Election night, I'm getting hammered.
Starting point is 00:35:34 But I'm going to pop in. You can pop in. But we've told everybody now that we're doing a live election night show. No, no, no, we're not. Kyle Kalinsky, Tim Dillon, me, Alex Jones is going to pop in live. It's going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:35:47 It's live. So while you're watching the world burn, live. All right, Joe, here's the thing. It's just like, let me explain it to you because I love you. Dude, it's just like when you said, what's the AT&T deal? And I went, oh, look it up. But listen, we did look it up and we found some information. This is bigger.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Okay. Let me get my brain focused here for a minute let me just try to explain i've literally interviewed probably let's not exaggerate 200 top scientists from petroleum geologists to astrophysicists to astronauts to quantum mechanics to petroleum buckle up because i have two i know moron i know okay you're a moron yeah no you're not yeah trust me joe you're a smart guy and i'm that's his cover he is smart oh yeah right yeah yeah right i'm a smart moron yeah right okay let me tell you what's going on i'm going to say it again you can go to any major study just type in carbon dioxide levels were hundreds of times
Starting point is 00:36:43 higher in earth's early past well i understand that but also i understand that you can look at the ocean models then yes you can look at the ocean models right and it's true the oceans did cover more than a house jones human beings weren't alive 65 million years ago and the environment wasn't compatible for us we put out a fraction we hadn't developed yet right well we were were moles. We hadn't, yeah. Shrews. Shrews, yeah. But my point is, you're right. Yeah. Is that last time CO2
Starting point is 00:37:12 was this high, humans didn't exist. The last time there was as much carbon dioxide, CO2 in the Earth, CO2 levels are far higher now than they have been for any time during the past. And oil, a single CO2 molecule can remain in the atmosphere. What'd you do?
Starting point is 00:37:27 That was just creating parts of it. Oh, I see. I understand. Oh, okay, okay. So let's just go to what this says. And what is this paper that's, is this climatecentral.org? Okay. The last time there was this much carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere,
Starting point is 00:37:41 modern humans didn't exist. Mega 2 sharks prowled the oceans. Blah, blah, blah. As we near the record for the highest CO2 concentrations in human history, 400 parts per million, climate scientists worry about where we
Starting point is 00:37:58 were then and where we're rapidly headed now. According to the data gathered by Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii, dope spot, the 400 ppm mark may briefly be exceeded this month when CO2 typically hits a seasonal peak. Sure, and I've had top scientists on, I've had climatologists on about the Keeling curve.
Starting point is 00:38:19 I can tell you all this. The threshold, according to Ralph Keeling, the researcher, carbon dioxide is the most important long-lived global warming gas. And once it's emitted by burning fossil fuels such as coal and oil, a single CO2 molecule can remain in the atmosphere for hundreds of years. Global CO2 emissions reached a record high of 35.6 billion tons in 2012, up 2.6% from 2011. Carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases warm the planet by absorbing the sun's energy
Starting point is 00:38:55 and preventing heat from escaping back into space, which means it enhances the atmosphere, right? But the sea levels didn't go up like they said. Well, aren't they melting? But it's a process. Al Gore said by 2013 Al Gore okay Joe but listen this is one guy's take I know but Al Gore's out there flying around I know I know you found a guy admitting that used to be higher than it is now I'm telling you it used to be way higher than it is now this is right but then the asteroid hit the Yucatan killed all the dinosaurs and of the planet. I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:39:26 With a dark winter. Yeah, it was very bad for everything. Caused by atmospheric dust. For a long fucking time. One major volcano, like Mount St. Helens they estimated, put out more dust than decades of human dust. Yes. And human dust is what helps cause nuclei to form to cause storms. So we are affecting our environment but most of the astrophysicists and most of the physicists i've talked to most of the climatologists i've talked to they have broken down that the sun by magnitude is 98 of the driver of what happens
Starting point is 00:39:56 that's why when the sun spots take place that's an a eronal ejection from the sun and one of those shoots radiation in our direction it'll be clear blue sky but but they know when we get hit by that it hits our magnetic field and causes an ionization of the atmosphere and electrification of it and so that causes the giant storms so the main driver of climate is the sun and i think everybody doesn't be a scientist to know what's the main thing that earth's living off of the sun the sun and so and so they're telling us that carbon dioxide does this what happens is as carbon dioxide goes up they said can be in the atmosphere for hundreds of years it's normally absorbed by plants
Starting point is 00:40:34 immediately who they've got studies they have found giant crocodile skeletons from just 10,000 years ago in the central sahara when hundreds of square miles is nothing but dunes 10,000 years ago in the central Sahara, when hundreds of square miles is nothing but dunes. 10,000 years ago, it was lush jungles and beautiful, but they had goats, and they ate all of the plants and killed the roots. So the Younger Dryas theory of asteroid impacts, they ended the ice age. 12,000 years ago. Yeah, well, two impacts.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I believe there's 12 and then somewhere but the answer is we don't know and and so they've now looked at all these big models saying that it's all carbon dioxide and it's not it's the sun it's asteroids it's tectonic it's electromagnetic i understand all this but isn't co2 emissions the one thing that we can control so human created global warming gas is like co2 emissions if we can control. So human-created global warming gas is like CO2 emissions. If we can put a cap on that, wouldn't you agree? Let me ask you a question. But if we continue
Starting point is 00:41:31 to put that stuff in the atmosphere, and it continues to get higher and higher and higher levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, wouldn't that... The studies show it's going to make deserts become green again, and plants are going to absorb the carbon. What studies are these?
Starting point is 00:41:47 You can look them up. Okay, let's find out. And that's why the left even says— But if you're going to say something like that, and I'm not arguing with you, but if you are going to say something like that, that's a very bold thing to say. You should probably not just say, look them up. There should be something that you're pointing to. Let's type it in.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Let's type it in. There's hundreds of them. I actually brought over 50 articles right here. Do you have something that you've read that makes you so confident that you can say this uh i actually know what what what the plant studies show where in greenhouses they grow plants with hybrid higher carbon dioxide and plants can grow up to three times faster they live longer plants let's expand carbon dioxide what do they put out more oxygen well this one thing that has been proven is there's more plants now than there have been at a long time there's a global
Starting point is 00:42:29 greening happening yes countering us losing our atmosphere up until this point the earth has less atmosphere than it did a million years ago and it's like god did this or something where we discovered all this oil or it's just blind luck that we are terraforming the planet back to an earlier healthier state by taking ancient carbon that was under the ground and putting it back into the atmosphere but isn't the problem that along the way we're also increasing the temperature of the planet and we are not aligned with a higher temperature you could here's the truth we don't know we don't know but in 1963 the club of rome came up with a limits to growth plan and they had models and
Starting point is 00:43:05 actuaries and i have copies of this in my film endgame seminal film it's free online endgame blueprint for global enslavement predicts a virus release to lock things down everything's not happening because it's their own documents and in the 1963 limits to growth club of rome plan they said we believe there'll be a global ice age by 2020, because the last ice age ended about 12,000 years ago, and we're set for that. We're going to tell the public that actually carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is bouncing solar radiation off the earth, because we've seen volcanoes cause this darkening effect in freezing. So we believe, our scientists believe, that carbon dioxide is going to make the earth freeze by 2020.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And so we've got to have a global regime to take control of all the factories and all the energy and put a tax in for global government in the name of stopping the ice age. Then by about 1987, they went, actually, we think it's going to heat up instead. So they flipped the propaganda. Ask anybody you know. Okay, but don't you understand that science back then didn't have as much data as they have now. So their models and what they had predicted in 1963 is faulty compared to the information they have in 2020. Yeah, just like Fauci said 2.5 million would be dead from COVID, it was 207,000. But worldwide, what is it?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Worldwide, tuberculosis killed 20 million million people 1.4 million here last year but nobody cares killed yeah well covid killed a lot of time it killed a million worldwide what not even a million worldwide no is that true yep come on yep well how do we know oh we use un models again they're they're our boss since when did the who say the lockdown has to go on now they go oh we're against the lockdown your nation states that it's their fault because they know millions are starving to death from the lockdown. That is true and very underreported. The WHO has now come out against lockdown saying that the reaction can't be a worse effect than the actual disease itself. So let me back Alex up with the climate change.
Starting point is 00:45:01 It's like there's certainly, you know, we're contributing to man-made global warming. But also, what are you going to do? What are we going to do? I don't know. I mean, that's the other question. What are we going to do? Why does his mic sound weird? Is it he's hot?
Starting point is 00:45:14 Is he on it? Or is it how I'm hearing it? I'm hearing like a breakup of his mic. Sounds good to me. Sounds fine to me, yeah. That's weird. Okay. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:23 It must be me. Jamie's really low. You sound great. He sounds good. Yeah. I'm sorry. It must be me. Jamie's really low. You sound great. He sounds good. Yeah. Okay. What is the climate control? Because that's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:45:29 The idea of using climate because, as you said with COVID, and we talked about this, we give up a lot of rights, right, in the name of coronavirus. Exactly. Look, there's real issues. We don't really know what's going on. They want to be able to track all carbon and tax it with an AI surveillance grid with a social credit score over it. And they admit all of that. Joe, they tell us what they're going to do.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Okay, I understand that. But do you understand that the environmentalists who are concerned are not – there's a giant amount of them that are legitimately concerned that we're ruining the earth. Yes, I understand the greenhouse effect. The ruining the earth i understand the greenhouse effect fossil fuel i understand the greenhouse effect but these people the reason why they're acting the reason why they're trying to get people on electric cars and trying to get people off the fossil fuels hold up please they're they're legitimately concerned like i don't believe that these actual environmentalists sure i agree with you but i mean here's the deal the new hammer looks the new hammer looks badass here's the deal here's the deal. The new Hummer looks badass. Here's the deal. But I'm not getting one because I don't want to contribute to global warming.
Starting point is 00:46:30 You don't want to contribute to global warming? Listen, be serious. Did you know that on average more carbon is spent for electricity into a car than 93 octane gasoline? Well, I would believe that because I would think it takes a lot to make a fucking electric car. But once the car is made. No, no, no. No, no, no. Transmission lines. You lose up to half of transmission and most of it's coal powered, brother.
Starting point is 00:46:57 So most of the electricity. Per megawatt, it's more. So when I'm plugging my Tesla in and I think, because that's how I like to think, I'm a good guy. I'm plugging my Tesla in. I'm helping save the world. I'm not, because I'm contributing to power. No, you're contributing to putting carbon dioxide back in and oxygen and re-terraforming the planet. You're doing a badass job.
Starting point is 00:47:20 The biggest energy guzzlers, electric cars, are badass. They are putting out more carbon than anybody. Yeah. They don't come out the tailpipe. They come out the power plant top. Woo. I love electric cars. Carbon.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Yeah. Team carbon. Carbon. Carbon. Okay. How do you feel about nuclear power? I absolutely hate it. Why do you hate it?
Starting point is 00:47:41 Isn't it clean? Oh, 94. Joe, I'm not trying to tear you up don't tear me up i don't know anything i told you i'm a moron no no no no i used to be for nuclear power oh what happened i actually did research what research did you do um they're always saying it's totally clean no problem but then you can look at the un zone numbers which i believe international atomic energy agency look this up cbs news% of nuclear plants are leaking at dangerous levels. Look this up.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Pause. Jamie, 94% of nuclear power plants are leaking at dangerous levels. Isn't the problem that we're using old tech like Fukushima? Now you see you're smart. You always know everything, Joe. The average power plant age is 36 years. Almost all these power plants, life is 20 to 35 years.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Fukushima was already a decade older than it was supposed to be, a general electric model using plutonium. Radioactive leaks found at 75% of U.S. nuke sites. Yeah, it's worse than that. It's 94%. Okay, well, that's not good. I don't know why 94 doesn't pop up.
Starting point is 00:48:44 That's in the U.S. report. But wouldn't it be possible with innovation that they currently have access to? Yes, yes. You talk about corrupt companies. Listen, if people actually ran these right, and the executives, here's an example, BP. I think oil is great. It has toxic problems. We should clean it up.
Starting point is 00:49:01 We should find alternatives. There's all sorts of clean energy we should go to that isn't know, isn't solar's great, whatever they've got fission, fusion, a bunch of stuff coming down. Take one of the best films out there because it's so accurate because I had lawyers on from the, I read the transcript of the trial, the event horizon with, with BP. They literally have all these degreed engineers out there and BP calls them up from England toston and says you're spending 25 million dollars a day on the super deep experimental whale we've decided to not pour concrete they call it mud in on top this the executives say we'll save 25 million dollars
Starting point is 00:49:38 a day if you dump water and all the engineers went we have mathematical equations just like water boils at a certain amount okay or we have a certain number of chromosomes. This is fact. Yeah. And they, on record, go, you're fired if you don't order them to dump water into it. So they follow the order, dump water in for five days, and it blows up. Because water didn't have enough pressure to hold what was going to be coming out when they finally hit that giant oil and gas deposit down there at 20,000 feet under the ground or whatever it was. Super deep well.
Starting point is 00:50:06 It was deeper than that. So you watch that movie with Kurt Russell and the rest of it and Marky Mark. Wasn't Event Horizon the one where they find? I'm sorry. Event Horizon is where they go. Event Horizon is a spaceship. Yeah, that's right. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I'm trying to remember oil in Event Horizon. I'm like, wait a minute. Lawrence Fishburne, right? Yeah, I think. They go to hell. Here's my brain. Deepwater Horizon oil in Event Horizon. I'm like, wait a minute. Lawrence Fishburne, right? Yeah, I think. They go to hell. Here's my brain. Deepwater Horizon. Deepwater Horizon.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Pull up Event Horizon because that's a great fucking movie. I love that movie. It's like they go into hell. Yeah, it's a good one. They go into a new dimension. It's a good one. Also about BP. But see how my brain got that wrong?
Starting point is 00:50:38 It was not on purpose. No, it's okay. That's the shit. He pulls his eyeballs out. He tells everybody. Yeah, remember that? Yeah. That's a great fucking movie. Pure evil. Listen, I'm not trying to rant here. What I his eyeballs out. He tells everybody. Yeah, remember that? Yeah. That's a great fucking movie.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Pure evil. Listen, I'm not trying to rant here. What I'm telling you, Joe, is it's the same thing with nuclear power plants. Why would the executives at BP order their engineers to do something that was going to blow up? They just said, you engineers are full of crap. We're going to make money. Do you think they might just be arrogant engineers on Adderall and they made a big mistake?
Starting point is 00:51:02 No, no. Yeah, that's what happened. Could be. Could be. That's what happened. Could be. Could be. That's what happened. That is what happened? Well, those guys are probably tweaked out, right? Those executives.
Starting point is 00:51:13 What I'm saying, it wasn't engineers. It was the executives. Yeah, but executives. That's what I'm saying. Why do you think they were like, keep pouring water in it, keep pouring water in it? Because they were insane. Right. I mean, that's what I'm saying about these nuclear-
Starting point is 00:51:24 Okay, so the engineers are at the mercy of these executives who don't have the degrees the engineers have and they made a crucial error and they forced the engineers to do something that was ultimately and so i was agreeing with you about we should listen to scientists and engineers i was just going back to your point that yeah we don't know about the warming we don't know what it's doing the models they all use on warming factor out the sun. Right. And you can't factor out the sun in an equation. I've had other scientists that factor the sun in,
Starting point is 00:51:50 and they think, despite all we're doing, that within the next 200 years, we're going to a very serious deep ice age. I think Alex's point is that in all of these things, there are legitimate things. You know, COVID has, there are real things, people getting sick, global warming, you know, to an extent an extent i'm sure is is happening of course it's happening but then there are also nefarious characters that want to use that to take away your freedom there are people
Starting point is 00:52:13 that don't want you owning a car they there's all these legacy systems whitney webb is a journalist who came on my show said a lot of people didn't want to reopen the economy until they remade the economy and got rid of all these legacy systems. And this is a doc with Eric Schmidt, who was the head of Google, and you can look it up. And they were saying, you know, they were considering these legacy systems like cash, private ownership of cars, you know, things like that. Like getting rid of all of these things that are distinctly American ways of life and just saying that, like, we don't want you to own a car. This is the most important thing that's been said here today. It's in my notes.
Starting point is 00:52:47 One step at a time though. Why would they want to get rid of private ownership of cars? Because they want control of people. And if you allow them to drive their own cars and use cash and run their own businesses and live in their own homes. Okay, but let's start with cars. Vertical integration. Let's start with cars.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Don't you think that maybe the concern is they're looking at the future of autonomous vehicles, which would drastically lower the mortality rate on highways, and they're saying this is probably— Are the people that run this country, Joe, concerned with the mortality rate? I mean, they're bombing other countries to doing this, to doing that. Okay, but stop, stop, stop. They want centralized control. Hold, please. We're complaining.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Steve Wozniak, the founder of Apple, says the best AI is not as good as an ant's brain. Hold this thought. Yeah. But hold this thought. The mortality rate on highways. Listen, you can't think that the people- These people are in the woods with hoods up. But the people at Google that are working on autonomous vehicles, they're not the same
Starting point is 00:53:36 people that are trying to control governments all outside the world. But it's controlled by those guys. All of those people at Google want to usher in a brave new world. They want to remake the world in the way that they want to. But you're saying all these people, some of them are just writing software to make a better pixel. Some of them are. But there's a lot of them that are not, Joe. I feel like I'm the fucking voice of reason.
Starting point is 00:53:56 How is this possible? They're the tech utopians. I'm not high. I should be high. I'd be right along with you. Yeah, you're very combative. Joe? These are utopians.
Starting point is 00:54:04 They want to create a paradise on Earth. Joe, I brought you. Through control. along with you. Yeah, you're very combative. Joe? These are utopians. They want to create a paradise on Earth. Joe, I brought you. Through control. I brought you the documents, Joe. I'm sucking on this cigar. Joe, we have the documents. I'm sucking on this cigar like it's a jelly donut. I'm hoping I can get to the weed on the inside.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I'm like, I'm licking the outside. What do you got there? A piece of paper? Take it. What does it say? What does it say? What does it say? I think it's confirming what I just said. Looking forward to the end of humanity. What does it say? What does it say? What does it say? I think it's confirming what I just said.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Looking forward to the end of humanity. What is this? See? Okay, but it's a person who wrote this. It's Adam Kersh. He's probably got a pistol in his mouth right now. No, that's the Wall Street Journal cover story. I don't really mean that, Adam.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I apologize. That's the Wall Street Journal cover story. May I please tell you what I came here for? You came here for a reason? Yes. Hold on. Here it is. Please tell you what I came here for.
Starting point is 00:54:42 You came here for a reason? Yes. Hold on. Here it is. COVID-19 has spotlighted the promise and peril of transhumanism, the idea of using technology to overcome sickness, aging, and death. Okay, but what is he saying? I used to fall asleep every night listening to Alex talk about this, so I want to let Alex talk about this.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Until they took him off YouTube. Okay, but make this clear. He was the way I fell asleep every night. Not only did they do that, but do you know they fucking took a Young Turks podcast yesterday off of Facebook? Let's talk about that in a minute. Can we get some weed in here? Progressive!
Starting point is 00:55:13 Yeah, we can get some. We got some on the outside. No, you need it. No, I can't. I blow it at you like you got a cat high? Does that not cheat it if I blow it in your face? I can't do it. I'll blow it in your face. I can't do it. Listen, I'm getting kind of hot from this cigar. There you go.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Listen, I need to talk to you. I'm a little lightheaded. All right, I'm going to go get some apple juice and I'm going to pray to Jesus. We've got some in here,
Starting point is 00:55:34 I believe. Listen, I need to talk to you. Just go grab some bottles and some ice. Get him some apple juice for the transhumanism discussion, please.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Listen, you want to know why I'm so crazy? No. Because I discovered this stuff right out of mainline documents and I've known it for 26 years, 27 years. Well, here's another thing.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Let me tell you something. I, like, we all know that you've fucked some things up, right? And your biggest fuck up is Sandy Hook. But you've gotten so many things right. And this is why I keep talking to you about these things and why I defend you
Starting point is 00:56:04 and why I think that it's fucking dangerous to censor you and to say oh this guy we need to get him de-platformed to get all these things you're revealing some things that have been proven on this show so far to be true that make people very uncomfortable well the first thing i was gonna do was thank you for having me on and have the courage but i was gonna say the fucking bohemian grove thing the bohemian grove thing that was amazing that was the first thing I was going to do was thank you for having me on and having the courage. But I was going to say the fucking Bohemian Grove thing. The Bohemian Grove thing. That was the first time I really got into what he was doing. And that was like amazing.
Starting point is 00:56:32 I mean, when you watch that movie, watch that, you know, it's paradigm shifting. I've had people try to minimize that. I've had people try. Yes, they all do. I go, listen to me. I'm not a billionaire. Well, I'll give you the real take on it because I've been there and i think it's just a gateway to things but let's get into bohemian grove in a moment i really want to give you i want to give you the big enchilada
Starting point is 00:56:52 the big enchilada okay yeah just like a mole sauce yes sir just like i'm i love mole sauce i do too just like i'm saying the engineers and meanwhile a lot of them have good points i'm not saying they're wrong about all this stuff i'm simply telling you I've read what the globalists have to say in their own establishment communication. Okay. And I have it right here in my notes to talk to you about the post-human era and the system that they are setting up, where in all of their main publications they say humans are flawed, humans are bad. But they are. But they are flawed, right?
Starting point is 00:57:24 But then these corporations are saying they're going to take us out of our bodies and make a silicon and that's what elon musk talks about beware of those that worship ai gods well he's actually talking about neural link which is something where they're going to be able to interface with your brain and increase the bandwidth in which you access information but go ahead well that's it and so it seems inevitable doesn't it no it's not inevitable already driverless cars don't know a wreck up ahead or what to do they have more accidents steve wozniak as i was saying earlier the founder of co-founder of apple says the best ai isn't a million percent you know close to how good an ant's brain is stop stop stop stop stop when they first developed cars they said
Starting point is 00:58:03 well how are you going to take them? There's no roads. Sure. AI powered. They built roads. Here's the deal. Do you understand that the AI that's powering these cars now is not as good? Do you understand the people running the AI are predatory anti-humans that say they want to get rid of us? Elon Musk is not a predatory anti-human. No, I didn't say he was.
Starting point is 00:58:17 But I understand. He's working on autonomous vehicles. He said, beware those that speak of AI gods. Yes. Okay. A lot of people are worried. Look, Elon is more concerned. Don't give me one of those.
Starting point is 00:58:29 You keep that shit away from me, motherfucker. No, no, no. He doesn't drink. I'm good, thank you. He's sober. Hey, Rogan. Look at all this extra. I'm sitting next to Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:58:36 I'm as high as I can be. Election night. Okay, but listen. Listen, election night, we're going to get lit. But these guys who are making this stuff. It's like in Hollywood. This is fake. This is are making this like in hollywood this is fake this is only uh corn syrup coloring do you think this is a good idea though this idea that we should be expanding our minds in this way and putting chips i don't think it's good or bad i
Starting point is 00:58:56 think it is the nature of human innovation i think we take things hey joe we improve upon them we we do that with everything but at what what point do you cross a line? Joe, you're talking about... Can I please tell you? No, one at a time. One at a time. It is weed. There was...
Starting point is 00:59:10 They had Morse code, right? Yes. They went from Morse code to you being able to send me a FaceTime video. Understood. These things happen. Hey, Joe, we're not against technology. This is just part of being humans. We're not against technology.
Starting point is 00:59:20 May I please say something? I understand that you're not against technology, but what I'm saying is if you follow technological innovation, it becomes better and better and more and more invasive. We need to design it where it doesn't make us obsolete.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Humans take control of their environment. We build our environment. The globalists have decided to have a post-human future where humans are no longer relevant. This is where you lose me.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I can show you their damn quotes. He's getting me because I think I just gave you an article where they said it. He's losing you, he's getting me. I just gave you an article where they said it. I think he's right. I think the only reason we're still around is because they haven't figured out
Starting point is 00:59:52 how to get robots good enough to get rid of all of it. If they had the right robots, there would be no Walmarts to get rid of everybody. You don't think that? If they were the right robots to get rid of everybody. They're making us obsolete. They're making us obsolete.'re making us trying to get rid of the danger danger danger cooler i like to go to walmart is that okay not but once you have a
Starting point is 01:00:12 robot you won't want to go to walmart why because it's it's it's dirty it's filthy everyone's got covid i listen to that's why they're doing the covid is the post-human you're not essential under covid they listen they're not essential they want to train you okay listen look how calculators were great no one knows how to do math now look how phones are great no one knows their numbers anymore all the statistics show that the science and technology is making us dumb and that's why they wrote the big article the co owner of sun microsystems in 2000 bill joy wrote why the future doesn't need us and he explains he went to a top billionaire tech conference, and they made the decision to not let humans sit around and play video games in the future,
Starting point is 01:00:49 that they were just going to slowly phase us out and kill everybody. Stop. They're not trying to kill everybody. Okay, pull up Why the Future Doesn't Need Us. But listen, why do you think they're trying to kill everybody? But why wouldn't they? Can we reverse engineer the question? Because we're called useless eaters.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I don't think they're trying to kill people. I think they're trying to improve what a person is. What I think we're doing... Oh, by chopping our son's balls off? Okay, you're going to go down another rabbit hole, you son of a bitch. By increasing our ability to access information and by becoming sort of a symbiotic creature aligned with technology... And once we're aligned with AI, it can censor everything we do.
Starting point is 01:01:23 You think the minute big tech got control, they began censoring. And it's the groups behind that are very predatory, Joe. I do agree with you there. There's no firewalls. Here's the problem. The First Amendment currently
Starting point is 01:01:35 does not apply to big tech. Right. I believe it should. They're violating cartel laws. They're organized. I believe that what's happening now with whether it's Twitter or Facebook or YouTube, these platforms
Starting point is 01:01:48 are so big, I think the argument can be made that they are utilities and that they should be regulated like utilities. I agree, Joe. It should be a human right. I agree. We did not have access to these things. We did not talk about what we're going to cover pre to this. We're going to talk about a lot of things. I'm going to read this.
Starting point is 01:02:04 This is what I wrote last night. The Silicon Cult. I want some weed for you. I want you to take it down a notch. The Silicon Cult. Okay, go ahead. It's another article? No, I wrote this.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Oh, you wrote it. These are talking points. The Silicon Cult, defying the enemy, the war on carbon, announce up front that I am not really a liberal or conservative. I want a pro-human future.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Please listen to me and hear me out. Let's stop right there, because you get called a neoconservative. You get called an alt-right. You get called a far-right person. When I first met you, you were protesting against George W. Bush, and you were saying that what he was doing and what he was trying to usher in was essentially going to be the downfall of Western civilization. Even before he was doing and what he was trying to usher in was essentially going to be the downfall of Western civilization. Even before he was elected? Yes, I remember that. So when
Starting point is 01:02:51 people say Alex Jones is far right guy, I'm like, he's complicated. He's really against corruption more than he's against any particular party. You just found that the right was less apt to censor you and more apt to listen to your ideas exactly and i know we're all not stoned today and so we're being a little aggressive but but here's the old election night if i'm gracious enough to be here or you're gracious enough i'll be here we'll we'll get hammered but listen let's get into bohemian grove let's get into the technocracy let's get into who runs things let's get into the mindset whatever points you want and i'll try to show up and go through it. This is Tim Dillon's will.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Because you're saying they want mortality on the roads. Look at this thin, young, handsome, boyish, baby-faced Alex Jones. That's 2004, but I knew you in like... 98. I met you in 98, but then I got to know you in 99. This was when you were...
Starting point is 01:03:44 98 was when you were protesting. And this is my clip. You guys are welcome to play this. It's really good. Yeah. I'll sign a form. You can use it. What is going on in this clip?
Starting point is 01:03:51 He's interviewing a lizard. Let's play this. It's been in a lot of different newspapers, and that's the Bohemian Grove. You want to start it over. It's David Gergen. Let me set it up. Let me set it up.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Let me set it up. Okay, right where he goes. David Gergen. I'm outside. What's the main thing in New York where everybody plays? By the way, this is when Bill Hicks was alive, so I can confirm that you are not Bill Hicks. Madison Square Garden. Madison Square Garden, and here comes David Gergen,
Starting point is 01:04:16 the Karl Rove of like four or five administrations, and I knew that he was part of the actual ritual at Bohemian Grove, so I bring it up to him, and he blows up at me. Here it is. He's like eight feet tall. Just a few questions about the convention. Is there a camera? Yeah, right there.
Starting point is 01:04:30 I just want to get your permission first. Here. Okay, okay. It's local. No, I understand. Just one minute or two. Okay, great. We're talking to David Gergen,
Starting point is 01:04:40 and he has advised several presidents and, of course, has written quite a few books and is a, I would call you a political pundit or researcher? Commentary at Over the Hill, whatever. One last question. I read a Washington Times article many years ago where you had a comment about the organization and then now it's been in the Wall Street Journal, it's been in a lot of different newspapers and that's the Bohemian Grove. And back in what was it, 1996 when you joined
Starting point is 01:05:06 as a Clinton advisor, the Republicans were criticizing you, oh what about Bohemian Grove? And then you countered them by saying, hey I don't run around in the woods naked. What did that mean? Here is the before mentioned Washington Times article where he said, I didn't run around naked like they do. I don't know what quote you're referring to. I'm not aware of any quote like that. Listen, I am a happy member of the Bohemian Grove. I like the folks who come there, and it's really inappropriate for me to talk about the group beyond that.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Thank you. Have you been there for the ceremony with the cremation of care? Frankly, I don't think that's something I need to talk to you about. Now, what we're watching, for people that are just listening, is a bunch of people wearing robes that are burning an effigy in front of a giant statue of Moloch the Owl God. And it's the effigy of a child. Well, I don't know if that is what it is. It is. I think it's the effigy of a child. Well, I don't know if that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:06:05 It is. I think it's the effigy of a child. It looks like a grown woman to me. He's real mad right here. Yeah, watch this. Back it up five seconds. We missed it. I said you take part in the ritual. Back it up five seconds. I'm Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:06:19 That's something I need to talk to you about. Really? That's right. Well, I'm Alex Jones and I snuck in there in 2000. I'm the guy that blew it wide open and got the video. It's been on national TV. Well, I disrespect you for that. You do? I do. But it's a lot of big public officials going in there. Don't we deserve to know? You took an... I don't know anything about you and I don't know anything about your film, but if you go in there with an understanding, you violated that understanding by releasing that film and I don't know anything about you, and I don't know anything about your film, but if you go in there with an understanding, you violated that understanding by releasing that film, and I don't respect you for that. Really? You, I'm sorry, you took an understanding when you went in there that you would not do that film, and did you have an understanding when you went in there?
Starting point is 01:06:54 No. Did you crash it? Yes. Yeah, and it has no trespassing signs there, too, doesn't it? No, they put them up after. Oh, I'm sorry. I just walked in. I'm sorry, sir.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I've been there before. I know what the circumstances are, and I'm sorry you violated the understandings That was not that was not a gentlemanly thing today. What about the ritual is the ritual? That's all the people these fucking heads of state and billionaires the other thing they run the world What's called ambush journalism and I disrespect you for that as well. So thank you and goodbye. Have you ever been in a ritual?
Starting point is 01:07:28 That's none of your damn business. Oh. Listen. Oh, he's getting cocky. You go around and make understandings with people and violate them.
Starting point is 01:07:39 You ambush people on the streets and that's inappropriate form of journalism. If you wish to practice that, that's fine. But don't ask others to respect you for it. You can do it. You're a free American, like anything you want. If you want to be uncivil and rude and ungentlemanly, that's up to you.
Starting point is 01:07:54 But don't expect the rest of us to say, oh, well, you're one. You're setting policy in there, Mr. Gergen. I'm sorry. Nobody sets policy in there. We try to be gentlemen, and obviously you don't belong there. Weaving spiders coming out here? Yeah. That is a three-pointer anyways that's a three-pointer listen you could ignore that if it was like a bunch of poor people in the woods doing that these guys even then i'd be worried even then it would be weird these guys are the are the top of like every industry in america it's at least curious who goes in there well people i like i mean clint. It's at least curious. Who goes in there?
Starting point is 01:08:26 Well, people I like. I mean, Clint Eastwood's gone. He's not really a member. Look, look. Is it fun? Look, it's 2,700 acres. It was set up by Mark Twain, and it was a liberal deal for like hookers and gay dudes and just everything else, just a big, huge.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Would you say gateds? What? Gay dudes. Oh, gay dudes. No, I'm saying if you go back to like the 1870s when Mark Twain set up, it was classically liberal. It was partying. It was their own 27 acres.
Starting point is 01:08:51 It was saloons. They brought in female hookers. There was gay guys in there, everything. It was just, it was Bohemian Groves, what they called it then. Because people did whatever they wanted. It was open. And they had like poetry and they had plays
Starting point is 01:09:02 and all the rest of it. Then by the time Howard Taft became president, the Republicans basically bought it. So the reason it's important is the Republicans go there to like, they ship in all these private hookers, all these jets land nearby. But they also have a lot of gay sex, which they use then to basically compromise people into the cult. And so there's a lot of gay sex. How do you know this? It came out in news articles. No one ever got footage of it.
Starting point is 01:09:26 I was in there for one day. I snuck in. I looked good back then. They hit on me a lot. I had people I recognized from TV walking around, hey, let's go right now. I mean, it's a big gay hookup deal for Republicans. I'm just telling you what it is.
Starting point is 01:09:38 And then they've got this ritual that's only the feeder group. So I'm sitting there during the ritual, and I'm like, hey, this is pretty cool. But the dude goes, shut up or I'll kill you. And they're all taking it very seriously. And I'm not saying it's a gay thing. I'm saying that some of that goes on there. So you were saying it was cool
Starting point is 01:09:51 and people were getting angry that you were saying it's gay? No, I mean, I was just quietly going, oh, this is really interesting. They're like, shut up. This is a very important ritual. And they were taking it very serious. This hearse comes in with the body of a child. It is an effigy.
Starting point is 01:10:02 They're not killing it. Well, it's just a bundle of sticks, right? Yeah, well, it looks like a kid. No, later, others infiltrated later that worked there and got us photos of it. It's an image of a kid. It's a little kid. Because Moloch in biblical is who they sacrifice to Canaanite. It's a bull, but they do it as an owl.
Starting point is 01:10:16 They do it as an owl, yeah. But that's from the Bible is you would sacrifice a child to Moloch. Give not your children to the fires of Moloch. Right, right. And so I've given it to experts in religious history it's not even you know from christian perspective it's a faustian deal mixed with babylonian and religious stuff from tire yeah it's quirky look at that look at that owl god and look at the fire underneath the owl god and there's ronald reagan i mean if you saw that if you were in the woods and you just saw that, you would be terrified.
Starting point is 01:10:45 And Richard Nixon said, Richard Nixon on the Richard Nixon tape says, it's a gay orgy. Richard Nixon said that? You can pull up, Richard Nixon talks about. Yeah, Richard Nixon said something about it where he. It's the most goddamn faggy thing you've ever seen. I think it's just allowing. Well, nothing against, that's what it's saying.
Starting point is 01:11:02 I think it's just allowing... Well, that's what it's saying. I think it's guys that aren't gay that engage in gay acts in the woods, and then they have something on each other, similar to Epstein's Island, where it's like, that's what it is. It's like a fraternity doing that. You've got to screw it up.
Starting point is 01:11:19 So is that part... Hold on a second. What is this here? They don't allow women. It says founded in 1872 by a group of male... That's the context that YouTube adds. Bohemian Club? This is the title of the video.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Richard Nixon, Bohemian Grove, most faggy goddamn thing he could ever imagine. Yes, play it. 100% play it. I want to hear this. It's the Nixon tapes. Let me hear this. Let's look at
Starting point is 01:11:46 Northern California. Northern California. You know what's happening in San Francisco. It's clear over the side of that, but it isn't. It isn't just down in the townhouse, but the upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bolivian Grove that I attend
Starting point is 01:12:01 from time to time. The Easters and the others that come there. But it is the most faggot goddamn thing you'll ever imagine in San Francisco crowd goes in there. It's just terrible. Okay. It's weird. The owl and the, it's interesting. And I don't know how seriously they take it. I mean, that's a real question, right?
Starting point is 01:12:21 I mean, the whole gay thing's a side issue. Right. The point is, is that I've talked to people that i mean according to ted gunnarsson first time i ever heard about this was from this former high-level fbi agent who's gonna be the fbi director but he wouldn't go along with corruption so he wasn't it's on record gunnarsson almost became the fbi director and he blew up like the things like the franklin scandal and he's been and the finders and the finders club which was huge yeah which where the cia was caught trafficking you know the finders is a cult that was caught trafficking children and the Finders Club. Which was huge. Which was where the CIA was caught trafficking.
Starting point is 01:12:45 You know, the Finders is a cult that was caught trafficking children. And the CIA squashed the Florida. And then Gunderson got it raided in D.C. and found a whole CIA facility with the snuff films, everything. Telex machine. And so he told me about all this, and I thought he was crazy. Yeah. Even though he was Ted Gunderson.
Starting point is 01:13:01 You told us about it, and we actually pulled up one of those stories. And I was correct. Yes, you're correct. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. So Ted Gunnarsson is the reason I know about this. And he said that they get people interested with that ritual.
Starting point is 01:13:14 There's like 2,000 members. They bring about 1,000 guests. Not everybody can even bring a guest. Only the head of each camp can bring a guest. Most of them are nice. Clint Eastwood goes there. Danny Glover goes there. But it's an all-male deal.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Who's the other one? Danny Glover. Oh, Danny Glover? I'm just mentioning who's on there. Lethal Weapon Danny Glover Clint Eastwood goes there. Danny Glover goes there. But it's an all-male deal. Who's the other one? Danny Glover. Oh, Danny Glover? I'm just mentioning who's on there. Lethal Weapon Danny Glover? I saw him there. How the fuck is he in there? They probably like him from the movie.
Starting point is 01:13:31 He's just a fun guy. He's a great guy. I saw him when I was there. I saw Danny Glover. Interesting. I'm starting to believe this is not... I'm starting to believe we can get in. I'm starting to believe it's not that exclusive.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Oh, Joe Rogan. They'd have him in immediately. Immediately. Not now. Do a podcast in front of the owl. But I just want to say that overall it started out as a as a truly artsy liberal thing that i think's good i think guys deserve to go off the woods like we've done since humans were humans and party and do whatever right and so and so it's but the thing is then the weird skull here's what happened about 1900 skull and
Starting point is 01:14:04 bones that was at uh yale in new, Connecticut, that was a German death cult. It took over Bohemian Grove. And that's when they set up that as the central deal. So it's this big, inviting, fun party. What happens to Skull and Bones? Because that's one of the other rumors about Skull and Bones. They compromise you. I know.
Starting point is 01:14:21 They compromise you so that you're always a part of this organization. Well, before he died, I did multiple interviews with Anthony Sutton, the top congressional advisor to Senator Frank Church. And we only know about Sutton because Charlotte Iserby, whose father was high-level Skull and Bones, gave him all of their internal manuals. And she's been a frequent guest. She's retired now. America's secret establishment,
Starting point is 01:14:46 an introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones. Yes. Okay. And so this is a Russell Trust, true Illuminati. Illuminati set up 1776 to counter our revolution by Adam Weishaupt. It funds the Jacobins.
Starting point is 01:14:59 It funds the French Revolution. It's the opposite of a true egalitarian open liberal revolution. It's the leftist. Always say they're the the liberal liberal and leftist are two different deals leftist is left-hand past satanism liberalism is egalitarian open society true liberalism and so the left-hand path uh set this up and then they wanted they sent all this opium money they had over in 1831 to yale to set up a german secret society of the illuminati which then has become one of the dominant secret societies and in there they do actual satanic
Starting point is 01:15:32 rituals they get in coffins uh they they do simulated human sacrifices they have gay sex as part of the ritual they they bathe in huge facilities of feces uh this was this was a made by robert de niro made a movie skull and bones are they're doing that stuff now absolutely i know somebody broke into it but wow who's the how can this be proven well matt damon made a movie called the good shepherd i think yes and and in that it's robert de niro directed it okay and that's super accurate where it's got the sword and the devil and they're in they're in these big vats of calminer they did leak a facebook of photo album of a bunch of skull and bones kids hanging on a deer island it kind of looked like losers i know they're not i know they're not but they kind of look like lose i mean it was kind of
Starting point is 01:16:17 like a lot of billionaires look like losers yeah they look like emaciated you were like these are the these are the illuminati it was kind of like that. No, I totally agree with you. Yeah. Remember ABC News, because they wanted to get Bush in trouble right before the 2004 election. Another frat was able to, because they're all doing this crap, shoot video down into it where they're going, devil equals death, Satan. And they had girls they finally brought into the membership. It was all boys before. Yeah. Sacrificing.
Starting point is 01:16:41 So, of course, it's idiotic. It's training wheels for what they do but inside they go grave rob they've got geronimo skull yeah the george hw bush stole supposedly stole geronimo skull yeah you got to do things like i don't know if that but that's that's a legend rumor thing yeah it's well it's probably true it's been broken into yeah one time the police went in there but the point is is that skull and bones order 322 is the illuminati germanic death cult that now set up chapters all over the u.s and it took over bohemian grove around 1900 and so that's why bohemian grove is still this artisan you know deal of elitist artist
Starting point is 01:17:16 but then it got co-opted by the republican party and skull and bones and helmet schmidt german chancellor wrote men in power as a political retrospective. Woody retired in the late 80s saying, I love our Illuminati rituals that we have in Germany in our own sacred groves, but I think they've taken it to a new level with Skull and Bones at Bohemian Grove, and I really enjoy the time we have there.
Starting point is 01:17:38 So these are just these elite institutions where, and Skull and Bones, I think they seek to create close friends amongst people that may not know each other, create loyalty amongst this group of people. That's why they got to tell them all the things they've done. Yeah, you got to tell them all the sexual history, all that stuff. They want these people to be loyal to each other. So when they, they're not loyal to the laws of America, they're loyal to this oath that they take with each other. And exactly.
Starting point is 01:18:02 And it's like a Team America. Look at this. Descendants sue skull and bones over Geronimo's bones. Documents show George H. Bush and George W. Bush's grandfather robbed Geronimo's grave members. Members of the secret society allegedly
Starting point is 01:18:15 steal valuable things and put them in tomb. Great grandson says Geronimo should be buried in accordance with tradition. federal law protects native americans rights to their family members remains and let's expand on that what he just said because this guy's done his studying it's like thank you it's like a team america when the head guy goes the only person who's ever said i've said no no no nobody says he goes suck my cock gary it's
Starting point is 01:18:40 not about sex in skull and bones and bohemianian Grove, what he said is most of these guys are not gay. It's an act of dominance. Like, oh, you're a senator? You want to be president? Bend over. And like a former president screws you in the ass. And that's what they do. I mean, the ritual is I'm in charge, bend over.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Well, isn't that a thing with fraternities anyway? Like hazing? Yeah. The jizz on a cracker. Exactly. So it's the next deal. Yeah, but most people in fraternity, I mean, these are the top kids.
Starting point is 01:19:06 These are kids that they think are going to occupy leadership positions in the world. And often do. And often do. Let me give you an example. Even John Ronson saw the photo of me when we snuck into Bohemian Grove. Yeah. And they had it hanging, and people said, why don't you get a video? I have a camera hidden right here.
Starting point is 01:19:21 It's Henry Kissinger bent over in a woman's dress, sticking his fingers in his ass. Bill Clinton in a blue dress in Jeffrey Epstein's house. Yeah, but that's just an artist's rendition. Do you know that that was just an artist made that? Maybe this was an artist's rendition. We're in a clubhouse. Ronson wrote about this. Oh, so it's a photo or a painting?
Starting point is 01:19:39 It looked like a photo, but let's just say it's a painting. I don't know. It's ancient memory 20 years ago. Okay. 20 plus, you know. But I mean, Ronson's like, look at that. I'm like, is that Kissinger?'s just say it's a painting. I don't know. I mean, it's ancient memory 20 years ago. Okay. 20 plus, you know. But I mean, Ronson's like, look at that. I'm like, is that Kissinger? Yeah, and it's Kissinger.
Starting point is 01:19:50 It's all about being improper. Right. And then they all go get caught to compromise each other to be in the club. Right. It's a hazing thing. So that they can trust each other because they're all doing shady shit. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Even if it's an artist rendition, why is Jeffrey Epstein having in his townhouse a picture of the president in a blue dress? Well, because the president flew in his fucking well that's what i mean that's what i mean he was basically by the way israel maxwell is now come out in court it's getting no attention confirming okay clinton did fly to that island that broke four days ago it's gotten zero attention yeah no they're not paying they're not paying attention we haven't heard anything other than those court documents listen i told you listen guys It's not like I'm even that special. My mom's brother was a famous helicopter pilot in Vietnam running black ops into Laos and Cambodia and stuff.
Starting point is 01:20:33 I shouldn't tell these stories, but no one's ever heard this stuff. But I remember growing up him telling me this stuff, and it was true. Like, I'm not going to do it. Please, please. What's the problem? I just can't do it what's the danger you said so much uh well i mean let's just say he took the fall for something that was going on he didn't get in trouble for it he got promoted and he was involved in iran contra and that's how people get promoted they fail upward by taking a lot of times to blame for something or this is that's like yeah so i grew up i mean i grew up not just him but other family you know that was it was like something special that you
Starting point is 01:21:09 know but those navy seal guys got a security done a bunch of crazy stuff that's what our military does it's not what you hear on the news right and and and it's just completely out of control stuff right and i mean my uncle told me he said he said yeah i know i got out of working for these groups and everything uh as you know an army officer that was sheep dipped. He wasn't wearing an army uniform. Yeah, right. We were talking high level. We were talking running the real stuff.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Right, special ops. He was in charge. He had like the command base in Guatemala City. Right. Because he was like a top Morse code guy. Yeah. Of course, they had satellites there, but nobody could read this Morse code coded. So he was sending stuff to the White House Morse code.
Starting point is 01:21:44 He was like, when he was a kid, he was a champion morse coder so he wasn't just in command he was like running all the stuff and uh he just said i had to do it because he said it was kids being smuggled out of orphanages by the cia for sex ops in dc jesus christ he told me that he told me that when he was dying of pneumonia jesus fuck yeah now what is it with kids why is the way to compromise people it's the it's the energy too yeah i mean if somebody will hurt kids and he would if somebody will hurt kids what else they'll do anything but that's what everyone's so terrified of today right that there are some sex trafficking and sex cult and there's 10 times over 10 times people but that's like and they are though but that's. Right, but if you want to get like...
Starting point is 01:22:25 The QAnon shit gets wild, and it's sloppy and messy. And you've talked about that, too. It gets sloppy and messy, and they're not right about everything. But the idea, there are human trafficking. The entire reason... QAnon is just people on the internet... They're like playing games. LARPing, acting like they're taking credit for something.
Starting point is 01:22:40 And a lot of them are good people. It's just that you can give them bonafide, like, look, they just busted a giant child trafficking ring associated press they don't want that they want no there's underground bases and there's dinosaurs they don't want the real shit they don't want so is it that they're just into things that are just huge more ridiculous than reality like what is yeah because it's escapism and hillary's in prison secretly oh right i think they just learned about the world over the last year and it melted their mind like you've been looking at when you were on with joe a few months ago you crystallize it perfectly yeah they've been
Starting point is 01:23:12 asleep now they've woken up and now they think everything's a cartoon version we'll say like you said yeah well it was just like again it's like if you didn't know anything about the franklin scandal you didn't know about epstein or you hadn't read these books you didn't know the stories your uncle told you and then eventually you just found out there was an island where all these politicians were going to and having sex with kids and they were getting compromised your mind would melt and then you would get paranoid and then you would start thinking that everybody's a pedophile and that there's tunnels underground when the reality is it is bad but sometimes you have to take a step back and take a breath and realize that like there are good people and not everybody is bad but sometimes you have to take a step back and take a breath and realize that like there are good people and not everybody is evil but there is a lot of evil out there but you got
Starting point is 01:23:50 to take a step back and try to realize like what is what well there's one picture of clinton getting massaged by this woman and they were using it as uh sort of evidence but the woman's clearly a woman she's in her 20s and they were saying she'd been working for him since she was like 15 let's never use clinton as the example of the q anon people being wrong not even what i'm saying like never there it is that's a grown woman she's a grown-up yeah so listen let's be clear the media did a limited hangout they went with these whistleblowers instead of all the other people and and the fact that the the witnesses reported at epstein island in the caribbean little saint george and he on the other island too that boats would pull up the middle of the night to these shacks with with little brown kids and
Starting point is 01:24:36 those are the ones that get disappeared but who who reported this it's in it's in the uh it's in major documentaries it's in netflix documentaries it's in all the witnesses we talk to. And they said, my witnesses, my people I talked to over 10 years ago said, remember me telling you about it, they've got an island in the Caribbean, they've got an island in the Mediterranean, they've got ranches in the Southwest, and that they... Well, he had a ranch in New Mexico, right? Yeah, but that came out later. I wasn't told exactly where.
Starting point is 01:25:02 I mean, the idea that these kids would disappear potentially isn't crazy. mean it's not crazy it's not crazy at all here's an example i was told by a high-level source that major hollywood producers by name ran a cult where they branded women next to their vagina the nixxiom thing but i but i put it out two years before it broke so i was told this by a high-level source i remember you talking to me about it and and then they had a they even had articles going uh in having a post jones claims harvey weinstein's connected to groups that you know do all this and i was just going off what people told me and i said i didn't even say weinstein that's what's crazy is they were already trying to cover it in case i said that they're like oh weinstein's not involved the branding women well it never even came out he
Starting point is 01:25:42 was it was the other guy right so it's just But what you said did turn out to be true. As fantastic as it sounded, as outrageous, as ridiculous, it turned out to be true. And now it's in the news. First time I ever heard of Ted Gunderson. Let me pull him up. Ted Gunderson. It's on Wikipedia. Up to be FBI director.
Starting point is 01:26:00 He was the head of LA. Imagine what he learned there. And he used to tell me, he goes, man, I've been in the FBI 20 years. I got to be the head of LA. He goes, there's devil worship he used to tell me, he goes, man, I've been in the FBI 20 years. I got to be the head of LA. He goes, like, there's devil worshiping everywhere. Blew me away.
Starting point is 01:26:08 You know, pedophilia, you name it. He knew about the Manson thing really being a satanic ritual. And there was a senator from Nebraska named John DeCamp,
Starting point is 01:26:15 who I know. Who he was friends with. Who he was friends with. And John DeCamp was a guy who, he blew the whole thing wide open. He was CIA. He blew the whole thing wide open.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Did you? Was DeCamp CIA, you think? But he was one of the good ones. Oh, he told me. I was friends with him. He was one of the good ones. He was involved in Operation Phoenix open. Was DeCamp CIA, you think? No, he told me. I was friends with him. He was one of the good ones.
Starting point is 01:26:26 He was involved in Operation Phoenix. And then they killed, well, that was his mentor. So DeCamp's mentor was a guy who was a high-level CIA guy. Jamie can pull that up. He was in a Phoenix operation, and he was killed. In the canoe. In the canoe. And the dinner was still on the table
Starting point is 01:26:45 he was killed in a canoe yeah this was a high-level CIA guy John DeCamp was a Nebraska senator who broke open this human trafficking operation this by the way I'm having hold on hold on yeah no it was a pedophile cult it was trafficking kids across America and it was a senator out of the Omaha federal uh Omaha federal credit union was being run by a guy named Larry King who was this rising star in the Republican Party. He's probably still alive. He has pictures of Maureen Reagan, all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:27:08 These kids were being trafficked to D.C., to L.A., to New York, wherever. DeCamp stumbled upon this, stumbled upon the occult, weird ritual shit going on, too, in addition to the pedophilia and all that. And then he went to this guy, his mentor who we knew from from vietnam from the military who was a cia guy whose name is escaping me william colby william colby went to william colby and william colby basically said to the camp listen you're going up force you're going up against forces that are way too powerful you don't even know what you're you're knocking on here and then william colby i think changed his mind and said fuck it you know what we should
Starting point is 01:27:42 stop doing like let's if we're going to fight this, let's fight it. And then a little while later, William Colby, who was in great health, great shape, has an accident and his canoe is found dead in a river right by his house with his dinner still on the table. So it's like nobody gets up in the middle of the dinner to go
Starting point is 01:27:59 canoeing. So this has been a common theme forever, whereas if you go against these people, you find you're dead. He was 76 when he drowned, though. Yeah this has been a common theme forever, whereas if you go against these people, you find you're dead. He was 76 when he drowned, though. Yeah, but in a canoe while his dinner was still on the table. Sometimes people have heart attacks when they're 76. I understand that. I understand that.
Starting point is 01:28:15 We're connecting dots here that maybe we don't need to disclose. Okay. William Colby, Director of Central Intelligence, chose to disclose some of the nation's darkest secrets to save the spy service he loved, drowned on April 27th in a tributary of a potential criminal. They killed him. They killed him. He was 76.
Starting point is 01:28:31 How about this guy, Gary Caradori, who was a private investigator, hired to get to the bottom of the Franklin scandal. It's like Barry Seale, man. They're getting rid of the people. They just get rid of them. All right. So listen, we've done Bohemian Grove. We've done Bohemian Grove. Let me tell you.
Starting point is 01:28:42 All right, so listen, we've done Bohemian Grove. We've done Bohemian Grove. Let me tell you. Senator DeCamp was on record running major-level Operation Phoenix, which was a high-level CIA torture operation and execution operation. So Apocalypse Now is kind of based on some of the things they did. But he's on record highly decorated at that. I don't want to go too far away from the Epstein thing because I still have a whole lot more questions.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Let's go back to Epstein. Okay, the island itself like first of all epstein had this crazy place in new york seven story palace that the guy who owned victoria's secrets he gave it to him yeah because of probably blackmail right and then there was other billionaires who it turned out had and this is like had been glossed over including bill gates bill gates stays there and tried to deny it but bill gates denies uh staying with uh epstein but confirmed he stayed there and in his paris home okay and uh this was also he met with him post his first arrest correct yes because he was arrested yeah a lot of people did chelsea handler
Starting point is 01:29:43 at dinner with him i believe after the arrest too i, a lot of people did. Chelsea Handler had dinner with him, I believe, after the arrest, too. I mean, a lot of people looked past that, apparently. Yeah, that British royal. Okay, Bill Gates met with Jeffrey Epstein many times despite his past. I've got to say, Jamie's really fast. He's the best. He's the best. So, let's go back to this. He's married to Dylan.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Epstein had a huge interest in tech. He loved tech. Yes. Yes. And he wanted to. He brought scientists and big tech people over his house in New York City. Here's the deal. They were doing.
Starting point is 01:30:14 I said this over 10 years ago that they were involved in secret breeding programs for cloning. Okay. Before we get to that. Scientists. How were they getting these scientists? Where are they getting all the money, first of all? Where's he getting the money to get to that scientists how were they getting these signs where are they getting all the money first of all where's he getting the money get the silent where's he getting the money to to buy this giant or get he was we now know that he was a nexus point from the dirty sides of the cia mi6 and massad at least yeah and so they were compromising people and
Starting point is 01:30:41 then as he would compromise people most of them knew they were being compromised. They wanted to be compromised, to be let in to then run operations and be given even more money. He was also the money manager for a guy named Les Wexner, who's a billionaire who owns Victoria's Secret, The Limited, among other things.
Starting point is 01:30:55 And that's the guy who... He was gifting Epstein a property. He gave him a $70 million. Well, that's where he got some of the first money. Well, Eric Weinstein, who was a legit financial guy, looked at him and said this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about he said he's playing a role and
Starting point is 01:31:09 then scientists were like that too when they went to his house to go oh epstein's is is like playing a role yes he has no you know so whatever he's doing he's working for somebody well let me tell you they want to corrupt the scientific elite to go along with their agenda on climate change to go along with their agenda on viruses to go along with their agenda on climate change, to go along with their agenda on viruses, to go along with their agenda because they know scientists are respected. So you want to have them compromise so they go along with whatever it is you want. So whatever it is you want. So if you want to do something and manipulate reality to make your agenda go through, you compromise the scientists and then these elite experts who you have on film having sex with 16 year olds then you yeah so maybe man-made global maybe man-made global
Starting point is 01:31:52 warming is real and really bad doesn't matter the solution they have is a global tax you pay them so it's a scam but as big as epstein was he was small compared to these other finders groups and other organizations they even came out in the news at the time in the late 80s early 90s and then the communist chinese they're running the blackmail rings with hunter biden and the democratic party and diane feinstein and all these people at levels way way way above anything anybody else has seen jesus christ i always i always got a bad feeling from diane feinstein I never had any feelings. Turned out her main assistant was a Chinese actual agent. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Ghislaine Maxwell Powell pleads for release, says jailed heiress, starving and humiliating clothes. And that's unfair for her. And I think, I mean, this humiliating clothes release. What an elitist statement. You should give her, oh, oh, she, I mean, on record, this woman was involved in all these horrible things, and now, oh my God, she's in humiliating clothes. Why do you think Trump said, like when they asked her about it,
Starting point is 01:32:52 well, I wish her well? He's always smart-ass, because Epstein was killed in prison. So he's like, I wish her well, because they want to get data. He's also like a rich guy. He knew her, right? Well, he later clarified it. I gave you... I told you what he said.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Do you think Trump's cleaning everything in this... i mean oh you want to get the mo on trump well i would like to because i know that you're i'll give you no no here we go my only superpower is that i really try to give you the accurate thing doesn't mean i'm always right about 95% of the time that's why earlier went on that rabbit troll what i'm saying listen trump doesn't like lobbyists he fired them all he's trying to make the best decisions for everybody in a pragmatic free market to not have one-sided trade deals. But his blind side was by him not letting lobbyists in, everyone around him became unofficial lobbyists. That became a 20-minute rabbit hole, which I'm not bitching about. But let me tell you about Trump.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Trump's dad was a super right-wing pro-America dude who was actually a huge funder of the John Birch Society. He introduced him to the head of the House Un-American Activities Group that worked for Nixon and Eisenhower that actually ran the Red Scare. Some of it was good, some of it was bad. Roy Cohen. And so his personal lawyer for 25 years was Roy Cohen, who was like the— Joe McCarthy's best friend, right? Joe McCarthy's chief of staff. Chief of staff, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:08 I mean, he ran it. He ran it, yeah. He ran House and Senate. He was the big enchilada. And so Trump was actually heavily influenced by his father that was anti-communist, acted nice and liberal in New York, but knew all this. John Birch Society, we're talking a whole nine yards. But wasn't Roy Cohen also involved in some blackmail stuff? Oh, he was huge. Okay. Absolutely. And it was the whole gay mafia stuff. Right, right, right, you know, we're talking a whole nine yards. But wasn't Roy Cohn also involved in some blackmail stuff? Oh, he was huge.
Starting point is 01:34:25 Okay. Absolutely. And it was the whole gay mafia stuff. Right, right, right, right. Jesus Christ, you guys are deep. You're deep in this, Tim. I know this. Yeah, I know this.
Starting point is 01:34:33 I fell asleep listening to every night. I would fall asleep. I'd listen to about a half hour, and then I would trail off. And I would fall asleep. And now I can't do that anymore. Thank you, YouTube. You can, Infowars.com. I know. Oh, you know, we're halfway into this, I should say. People ask, can't do that anymore. Thank you, YouTube. You can, Infowars.com. I know.
Starting point is 01:34:45 We're halfway into this, I should say. People ask, people come to the street and say, I used to love you. I'm sorry you're off air now. We have record traffic at Infowars.com and banned.video. Banned.video.
Starting point is 01:34:56 We have videos. I've had videos this week with three million views, two million views, a million views. Yeah. It's all there. My producer, Ben Avery,
Starting point is 01:35:02 watches Infowars.com like during holidays. His family would be having Christmas and he'd be in a room watching Infowars.com like during holidays his family be having christmas i'm in a room watching info so speaking of censorship youtube and facebook have now banned all the q anon stuff right which is crazy well this is what's crazy like what's next you're gonna ban jfk conspiracy well if i make a joke about q anon am i gonna get banned that's the other problem for comedians like you said the the young Young Turks show. Let's just first talk about the Young Turks. What is the show? The Jacobins. Because Tim Dillon had put the show. I'm going to send it to you, Jamie, so you can see what it is.
Starting point is 01:35:36 I'm going to send you the video that Tim Dillon, or excuse me, Tim Poole had sent me. I'm going to send it to you right now, Jamie. So let me explain this. Tim Pool. It's not me. I'm going to send it to you right now, Jamie. So let me explain this. The Young Turds are anti-free speech for everybody, including me.
Starting point is 01:35:52 And then she goes, but I'm not anti-free speech. I just want Alex Jones banned. But then they have this new show called The Jacobins. Well, let's talk about evil. The Young Turks were the group that ran the Armenian genocide. They ran the Armenian genocide on record, killed over a million and a half Christians. They named themselves the Young Turks. They go, oh, we don't know what that means.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Now they're called the Jacobins. The Jacobins ran the French Revolution and were the Illuminati. I told you about them earlier. So it's like every name they've got is like the Hitler Youth, basically. I mean, you know, the Young Turks. That is a very unfortunate name, the Young Turks. Well, they also, people run around with, you know, the people that watch a lot of those shows walk around with either the Che Guevara shirts or they're unironically calling themselves Maoists.
Starting point is 01:36:31 These are like suburban white kids walking around going, I'm a Maoist. I mean, it's kind of $800 smartphones. Right. Yeah. But that is a problem too. It's absurd. I think they're trying to do good and I think they think they are doing good. I really do.
Starting point is 01:36:43 I think when they thought that, hey, I'm not anti-free speech, but ban Alex Jones, they just don't understand what that means. There's a reason why you can't just go around censoring people. And again, the answer to bad speech is better speech. That has always been the answer. But here's the big problem. Once they silence you, they can then make up whatever they want because people all the time here's what's worse alex and this is you personally but the problem is when they silence someone what they censor someone and then that person's not the the that's that's not the target anymore they look for
Starting point is 01:37:18 another target and they invariably go left they invari Exactly. They get on a power trip. But hold on a second. Left is not left enough. So if you're a centrist, they'll call you alt-right. Yeah. Because you need to be compliant completely with the ideology. If you're not compliant,
Starting point is 01:37:37 they keep moving what's acceptable and what constitutes racism, sexism, classism, homophobia, transphobia. It's a power grab. But they keep changing it. They move the line all the time. Orwell talked about this in 1984. He was like, if you ban all the words, you will literally change thoughts
Starting point is 01:37:59 because you can't have all the – I forget Orwell's words on hate speech. Reducing language. He said they want to reduce the language where no one's even able to communicate, and that's the goal. So we think of it as a leftist thing that's out of control. No, this is a science... I paraphrased it, and I fucked it up. But the point is, what they didn't see...
Starting point is 01:38:19 They didn't use hindsight. They didn't... It's called Ingsoc. It's so hard to talk with you. What they didn't do is they didn't it's called ink sock well that what they did it's so hard to talk with you what they didn't do is they didn't look Joe you know I do they didn't look to where this goes they didn't understand they didn't extrapolate they didn't say or maybe some of them did and some of them but you can't to go start if you start censoring there's a real problem people are saying no you should censor
Starting point is 01:38:44 people that see terrible things because they influence our children and you you can't but joe it's a power grab they get off once they've got one scalp they're going to scalp everybody including themselves that's the motivation of the people that are doing it that's not what i'm concerned with what i'm concerned with is the problem itself because you keep finding a new target. You keep finding a new person who's doing something that's incorrect. That's what I'm saying. They don't want to give up. They want more, more, more. But it's not that they're trying to grab power. It's just you're always trying. Look, you've started a game. You started a game. They're losers and want to control reality because they're projecting their own hatred of themselves on us. You don't think part of it is
Starting point is 01:39:23 that they want power to control the discussion? There's most certainly a part of that. Yeah. That's a part, that's human nature. But Joe, you just said I'm hard to deal with. Well, because you talk over people. When they're talking, you don't let them get the full... You've been talking a lot. You don't let people get a full thought out.
Starting point is 01:39:38 And Tim does it, like, when he's having his thoughts... How the censors are good. What I was saying is he's talking and you jump in. And the problem is I know you have some things to say, but then you fuck with the thing that's coming out of the other person's mouth. Okay, explain to me how the censors are loving people. That's what you're trying to do. I'm not saying they love people.
Starting point is 01:39:54 I'm saying they're not looking at it correctly. Because the way they're looking at it, they think they're doing a good thing and they're going to usher forth some utopian world of communication where people are only saying the things they agree with. The problem with that is you don't find out who's right unless you get everybody talking. But I agree. It's the only way you do it. But Joe, it's worse than that.
Starting point is 01:40:14 You can't have an echo chamber. It's dangerous. Echo chambers are dangerous. And what tech has done is created these left-wing ideological echo chambers. I totally agree. And they're also forcing people into self-censorship because if you don't comply with the rules that they've set forth then you get banned so you comply and you you you find you find people it is a cult
Starting point is 01:40:37 ideologically like this listen it is a cult joe i think there's a lot of these calls what i'm trying to say to you is you've never been not smoking weed with me on air You need me I know, it's a bummer We should have had you come in a week You're angry, you're upset I'll be here during the election I want you to be on before the election
Starting point is 01:40:56 I agree with you, Joe Who do you think is going to win, by the way? Donald Trump is going to win You think so? But then the Democrats are going to contest it And we're going to have the 79 days of hell. But why are all the polls showing that Joe Biden is in the lead? Do you think it's all bullshit? Just like last time
Starting point is 01:41:10 they said Hillary was going to win. Yeah, but these are the post-election polls. Joe, what I want to do is talk to you right now. Why are you talking like that? He's a conspiracy phone sex operator. I want to talk about what a sexy man you are right now. He's the only one here drunk.
Starting point is 01:41:25 This is a real problem. I am channeling Tim Dillon. He's Tim Dillon's team. That's not how Tim Dillon talks. Tim Dillon's looking at you right now. Do you really think that Trump is going to win? Because it's close. No, he's going to win big.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Interesting. Really? But they're going to think that. But they're going to... Listen, I was not trying to interrupt you earlier. Well, this is how you talk. It's okay. You're supposed to talk. You've got to let it in. It's okay. You're an explosive guy.
Starting point is 01:41:45 He's got passion. You've talked twice as much in our last four-hour podcast. I love it. This is the sober Joe Rogan. Let's get back to this. Trump. What were we arguing about about political correctness? I don't know, but you were saying we weren't arguing. He was saying that the censors I was agreeing with you. Some of the censors
Starting point is 01:42:02 are trying to do the right things and that you were saying listen it's deeper than that and then that's where we left off it's all been scientifically set up where they always say oh we're for outliers now and dog whistles it's all about normalizing centralized control big technos it's psychological algorithms it's totally destructive china that has people in muslims in death camps, Christians in death camps, Buddhists in death camps, is trying to totally normalize censorship here domestically when the whole left is involved with communist China through big tech. It doesn't say a word about
Starting point is 01:42:36 them. They have no moral high ground to stand on, Joe. Well, we have a real problem in this society when it comes to tech, first of all, because all the people that are on the moral high ground who are buying iPhones, you know where those things are being made. We all know. Everybody knows. And I admit it. I admit it. I admit it as well. There's no iPhones that are being made in Ohio with highly skilled workers that are paid an excellent wage and they have great health care benefits.
Starting point is 01:43:02 That's not what's happening. I don't know why, but that's not what's happening. They've decided that it's better to make them cheaper or better to have a higher profit margin and make them in other countries, or at least they decided that initially, and now they're stuck. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Who do you think is going to win? I will be very subdued now since I'm back. Joe Jorgensen. Yeah, I think Joe Jorgensen has a great shot. She's a shoo-in. And then Kanye West. I think Joe Jorgensen, Kanye West. I think it's a nail-biter.
Starting point is 01:43:32 It's neck and neck. You know what drives me crazy? I think it's neck and neck, right? Jennifer Aniston, she made a tweet that said... What drives me crazy is you're hating me right now because you're not drinking. Hold on a second. There was a fucking hilarious response by Kanye West.
Starting point is 01:43:49 She said, Jennifer Aniston put on Twitter, hey, it's not funny to vote in for Kanye. Don't do it. And he goes, Friends wasn't funny either. Hilarious. He's right. He's right. That's great. Friends was not funny.
Starting point is 01:44:01 But you see, the two of them together, Friends was a funny show. Joe, you were great on Friends. I wasn't on Friends. That's great Friends was not funny But it's You see the two of them together Friends was a funny show Joe you were great on Friends I wasn't on Friends That's a joke Who do you think You think Trump I don't know If you were a Friends character
Starting point is 01:44:12 Who would you be I'd probably be Matt LeBlanc Right Then you'd be Jennifer Aniston I don't think so Who's Matt LeBlanc His name is Joey Jennifer's the most successful
Starting point is 01:44:24 I identify as Jennifer Aniston. He was dumb. I'm dumb. Perfect. Wouldn't you like to have a dentist like Jennifer Aniston in Horrible Bosses? She was a dentist? What did she do? Molest her patients while they're under?
Starting point is 01:44:37 Okay. Well, you could be molested by worse people. Well, they're not kids. But I just think it's funny that someone who's an actor would say that. This thing that they feel like they have this influence that they're going to change the way people vote. This 80 days of hell you speak of, what does that entail? Just so I can mentally
Starting point is 01:44:54 prepare myself. 79 days of hell. 79 days of hell. 79 days without Joe Rogan. What's going to happen? 79 days of us locked up in here with cases of whiskey and huge piles of marijuana he's lit no no no
Starting point is 01:45:08 you're a little lit buddy I could see that bottle and it was a fresh bottle that's fake that's Hollywood that's not Hollywood we're in Texas I gave up Hollywood years ago I haven't worked in Hollywood in a long time let's talk about this what were you just asking
Starting point is 01:45:22 79 days of hell see this is not fair I haven't worked in Hollywood in a long time. Let's talk about this. What were you just asking? I don't know. 79 days of hell. If the Democrats contest the election. Problem. See, this is not fair. 79 days of hell. That's how many days there are after November 3rd to the inauguration. And John Podesta in the New York Times, they had a big war game. The New York Times sat in on a Democrat high-level war game with Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and all of them.
Starting point is 01:45:45 And they said, we're going to contest. We think we're going to win. But if we lose, we're still going to contest. And we're going to contest. And we're going to call for the UN to come in and occupy the U.S. The UN is going to occupy the U.S.? And then the New York Times came out and said, we need the UN to intervene in the U.S. election. And now the Four Horsemen just called for that yesterday.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Jesus. And so they are planning to have... Who's the Four Horsemen? AOC and the rest of the crew. Oh, Jesus Christ. And so... I thought that's the tribe. Anyways, and so they're...
Starting point is 01:46:18 It's the Four Horsemen! And they're planning to have Western states secede. And they're saying they're going to hold the election up. You already saw this. They already denied the last election. They can take Portland. Yeah, take it all. Take a lot of the West.
Starting point is 01:46:30 This is the 79 days of hell. Let me ask you this. Who cares? When did you decide to try to escape California? Well, I told you, the looting. When the looting hit, I had zero faith in their ability to maintain law and order. Because if you're going to pay all that money in taxes, I feel like you should at least feel like they're protecting things. And when they were just letting them smash windows and cops were told to stand down, particularly in Santa Monica, there was direct orders and the sheriff was being widely criticized for this.
Starting point is 01:47:02 They were told to stand down while these people were smashing and looting things. When they were doing that, I was like, well, you can't live in a place where that's being tolerated. Because this goes from stores to, they'll move to nightclubs, they'll move to restaurants, they'll decide what they're going to smash. It had nothing to do with George Floyd. No. It had nothing to do with him. I agree. Those restaurants, those It had nothing to do with George Floyd. No. It had nothing to do with him.
Starting point is 01:47:25 I agree. Those restaurants, those stores had nothing to do with George Floyd. And now, like in Minnesota, Minneapolis, the crime rate's like triple. The police won't even show up. They're like, people are like, why are you even paying you? Yeah. So what do you think, both of you, Mr. Dillon, what is the end game of this? I'm going to finish my answer because I'm not done yet.
Starting point is 01:47:43 It was also that there was restrictions that were put in place that didn't make any sense to me there's restrictions for restaurants restrictions for comedy clubs restriction restrictions for gyms like why can't you just wear a mask why are churches closed yes but all but walmart's open well why are churches closed but why is it okay to protest it's not why is everybody okay why is everybody letting people protest right why why aren't they saying listen, listen, I understand your desire to protest, but understand that you're most likely contributing to the spread of this virus? Because that's a fact. Right.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Even if you support the protests. I agree. Yeah, the end game seems to be if you let society get bad enough, people will then accept all these more draconian security measures and and censorship across the board do you think that's what's going on with california like why do you think they've kept california locked down this much they want to kill the u.s economy china's been open for six months they admit it's leaked out that they're doing this to kill the u.s economy remember it's leaked out how oh let's come out how? Oh, it's come out Democratic Party reports. It's been stated.
Starting point is 01:48:48 You heard Democrats all over the news say we wanted depression to make Trump look bad. Who said this? Bill Maher. Yeah, but Bill Maher is not a part of the Democratic Party. He's a comic. I know, but I used a public. Bill Maher, but he jokes around about that. Like, look, if we can crash the economy.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Okay, well, regardless, when Jews try to, or Baptists in New York, try to have an event, the police show up and arrest them. But then when Antifa or BLM was around, burn stuff down, the mayor says it's great. And the mayor said, de Blasio said, this is legitimate. Antifa's legitimate. Your church isn't. Your synagogue isn't.
Starting point is 01:49:19 So it's power. It's selective enforcement. It's martial law. I have articles right here. Because everything I brought today, I have the proof. ABC News is reporting in blue cities in Texas that they're going to come to your house and demand a COVID test. And if you don't, they're going to arrest you. Well, the federal and state courts have ruled they can't do that. Where's that being said?
Starting point is 01:49:39 El Paso, Texas and other areas. But I want to bring you back to what you're saying about crash the economy. You use Bill Maher as an example, and I just don't think that's a credible example because he's a comic. Well, he said that. Yeah, but he's a comic and he's not a politician. Comics have bigger coverage than news people now. That's what Colbert and all them Poe's is news people. Alex, you can't use him as an example of someone who's a politician who is calling for the economy to crash.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Strategically, if I was a Democrat, I wouldn't want things to open up again until Trump was out, right? Agreed. I mean, that's strategic. If you didn't want the economy to return. China wants us shut down. China admits they're using the virus to keep us shut down. Do you think he's a bioweapon?
Starting point is 01:50:19 I could give you an hour-long treatise on COVID-19. Okay, we'll get to that momentarily. I don't want to anger you, though. No, I love being here. I'll sit here and tell fart jokes if you want. I'd rather get drunk and just have a good time. Before we get to that. I'm going to sit in Tim's lap.
Starting point is 01:50:33 But you said something that I want you to back up. You said that the Democrats are trying. I'm not denying the possibility that this is the case. But this seems like, if that was the case, it would be a grand conspiracy that would at least have you'd have to have some evidence of this to make that statement that they're trying or they want to crash the economy because they they want to to maintain power and to change censorship and to change the way there are laws okay well we've had governor newsom we've had governor um cuomo whitmer cuomo
Starting point is 01:51:07 exactly all say the economy isn't gonna be open because trump's done a bad job we're not gonna open until he's gone and then whitmer's even come out but it's true wait a minute newsom has openly said that you sure yeah type it in i mean i'm but what do you think he said i've never i've listen i'm a critic i've i'm a critic of newsom because of his uh this he's become an autocrat he's because wineries open but there's a lot of issues right there's a there's a lot of issues so that they they close so many things joe joe joe globalism was about selling america off and bankrupting us under cloward and pivots strategies fine fine, but don't change the subject.
Starting point is 01:51:45 I'm not. Specifically what Newsom has said. They can pull it up just like I told you about the AT&T deal. But what did he say that you think, and again, I'm not a fan of him. I'm a critic. Listen, I think you've got to give people, grown adults, the choice. Look, we don't have overrun hospitals. We don't have people dying in record numbers.
Starting point is 01:52:07 We don't have 5% death rates. We don't have 1%. They keep saying the cases and the deaths are increasing. That is true. But as long as there's a disease, they're going to increase. The question is, at what rate? And the people that are dying, how many of them have comorbidity factors? It's never about the death rate.
Starting point is 01:52:24 It's always about increased infection because the death rate's way down now as soon as the winter hits they're going to say it's flu and it's the cold they're going to count as that you get me again when when you say the deaths increase that is going to happen the question is by what rate and how many right you take the normal flu and and pneumonia and morbidity like they did this year and you add that to the number they've already run the same scam and so whatever they don't count flu as a death or pneumonia anymore they only like they all kind of cover because they get money on the chart they get 50 plus thousand dollars when they call it a covid death plus when they say that they get 13 000 to say it's a covid patient and they get
Starting point is 01:53:06 29 000 or whatever extra when they intubate somebody and so now since when is like congress saying how to do medicine well isn't the idea that they're doing this to give money to these hospitals to help them in the middle of a pandemic yeah so the But then the hospitals code everything as COVID to get the money. That's come out. They killed most people that died, died in nursing homes or died from intubation when it's an autoimmune event and you don't want intubation. It's intubation that's killing people. But they initially thought you did have to have it because it was respiratory disease. And thank God the numbers went down because they stopped intubating.
Starting point is 01:53:40 Yes. So now it's all about everyone's being. Before there's this high death rate because they were intubating and they were killing old people. As soon as they stopped shipping folks to old homes that weren't getting vitamin D because there's no sun, it went like this. So infections like this, you can pull up the graphs. Yes. You're like, what's your science? Pull it up.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Infections like this, deaths like this. Right. Well, you're going up and down, right? Deaths down. You know, infections like this, deaths like this. Right, where you're going up and down, right? Deaths down. Now, what did Gavin Newsom say, though,
Starting point is 01:54:10 when you said that he said it's not going to get better until Trump's out of office? Well, it's Whitmer that said that specifically, and he said Cuomo, because I remember that, too. But he was just basically like, well, I want to be friends with Trump. There's been a bad response. We've got to keep the lockdown going. And, you know, until Trump does this wrong,
Starting point is 01:54:24 until we have a change, it's going to continue on. And then it's always about the power grab. Like, oh, it's two years we have to do it. Now it's, first it's 15 days to keep the hospitals empty. And then it's, then it's, oh, six months. And now it's two years. And then Gates said like a week ago, it's 10 years. And now they've got the people, Fauci and others saying, no, it never ends. You never shake hands. And under the UN rules, they say, don't look at someone and turn your head. So in Europe, you can type this in, citizens of the UK told, do not look at other people and turn your head.
Starting point is 01:54:57 It's cult programming, man. I think it's a pretty common talking point. And some people agree with it. Like a lot of Democrats would say, yeah, it's not going to get better until trump is out because trump has made a mess of it i don't think trump's done the best that's what he said but that's that's a common what could he have done better well i've done better he shut down flights from china in february when when pelosi's running around in chinatown saying yeah but i think it's a pretty common belief that they're saying listen we so i don't think it's a conspiracy i don't think like you have to find a source I think it's a pretty common belief that they're saying, listen, so I don't think it's a conspiracy.
Starting point is 01:55:26 I don't think you have to find a source. I think it's like they believe that it won't get better until he's gone. So I don't think they actively are trying to make it better until he's gone. Exactly. You see what I mean? They want to keep the crisis going. I do see what you're saying. I just want to know if there's evidence. I want to know if there's an actual statement where he said when Trump
Starting point is 01:55:46 leaves, then we'll open back up. That's actually what Whitmer said specifically, but he said some more things. I'm going from memory here. I understand, but that's why I'm challenging you on this. I'm challenging you on this because people online
Starting point is 01:56:01 are going to want to challenge you on this. That's what they loved about our last interview over a year and a half ago, which they loved, was that people could go People online are going to want to challenge you on this. Right. So I want to find... Well, that's what they loved about our last interview over a year and a half ago, which they loved, was that people could go and actually check the stuff I was saying. No matter how crazy they found it. Yes, and a lot of it is true. So I want to find that quote now. See if Whitmer said that it won't get better until Trump's out of office
Starting point is 01:56:18 in terms of the lockdown, restrictions. Whitmer, lockdown won't end until Trump's out. Didn't she lose some court case recently? Yes. Her Supreme Court, but also federal courts have ruled across the country that you can't order churches to wear masks. You can't order social distancing. It's all just getting us to comply. Don't you think it's a good idea to encourage people to wear masks if they're going into large gatherings indoors?
Starting point is 01:56:44 A lot of studies show that it doesn't even protect you. Listen, listen. Trump told the truth a few days ago when he came out and he said, we're never going to control this. We have to learn herd immunity or if you're really scared of it, take a vaccine. And the head epidemiologist of Rockefeller Hospital
Starting point is 01:56:59 came out and said that and got banned on YouTube. I mean, listen, Italy did social distancing. Italy did masks. Italy did everything you were supposed to do. And they're getting clobbered again. So that makes me think that maybe it's not a bad idea to do these things, but they don't seem to prevent a second wave. Sweden didn't do any of it, and it's the lowest death rate in Europe.
Starting point is 01:57:20 Right, but it's also a country of small villages. They have a whole different way of life over there. Italy is a bunch of three generations living in one house. They're the oldest people in Europe. That's the problem. They need sunlight. They smoke. They eat good food. Try finding a gym over there.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Jesus Christ. Every time I fucking go there, it's hard to find a gym. Listen, exactly. Joe, Joe, Joe. I came out eight months ago's hard to find a gym. Listen, exactly. Go to a restaurant. Enjoy your life. Have a restaurant. Joe, I came out eight months ago, and I was selling this stuff. I said, get it at the store. Vitamin D, vitamin C.
Starting point is 01:57:52 Zinc. And zinc. If you have that on the NIH website, it can't, according to the NIH website, cannot replicate inside the mitochondria where the virus plugs into the cell and makes it replicate. Okay. And so I just, I mean, like Jones claims he's got a cure. No, it's not a cure. If you've got sunlight and zinc and vitamin C and all these things you need,
Starting point is 01:58:14 it's very hard to get these things. That's why it's old people in nursing homes that haven't been outside in years that are dying so easily. Now Fauci finally two months ago came out and said, you need vitamin D, you need vitamin C, you need zinc. Well, that is true. And young Jamie takes vitamin D and he kicked it in a day. Yes. And vitamin C and zinc. Young Jamie was feeling bad for a day.
Starting point is 01:58:35 But I don't want to argue, Joe. I want to just say I love Bill Gates. Okay. I use Windows. I'm looking for the quote. I can't find a specific quote that says that. There's lots of quotes about them going back and forth, obviously, because they've had the public battle.
Starting point is 01:58:51 I just think anybody like that, whether it's Bill Gates or Bezos or anybody who's a billionaire, if they say, here's the suggested course of action, they have to expect that they're going to be criticized. And a lot of these guys don't like taking any criticism when they're issuing edicts. These are billionaires that are saying, this is how we're going to live. Yeah, that's the next big question.
Starting point is 01:59:09 This amount of vaccinations. Isn't it strange, though, that Bill Gates, who is not a health expert, is all of a sudden one of the leading voices? Yes, it's strange. It's curious. But that's my next question. Why is Bill Gates, who's not a doctor, suddenly on TV telling me how my life's going to go and what I'm going to do. This is the most important part.
Starting point is 01:59:27 Why is this a big project for him? Well, he's also a guy that wanted to shoot a missile of dust into the atmosphere to help climate change. I mean, very few people in history have had the resources to even think of doing something like that. That's right. He wants to have jets spraying chemicals to block the sun. Right.
Starting point is 01:59:42 And the scientists went, no good no good they went not a good idea so and then if you call him on that if you call him on that he goes the conspirator lies and the conspiracy theories it's like no we're just asking you why you want to shoot missiles into space he went on cbs news and they go 80 of those taking your vaccine trial getting very sick some are dying he's like well that's just how it is you can pull this clip up what yeah he said that's just how it is yeah he said well the fda is gonna approve it i like this he's beat right look at you you're blending in with the walls but yeah it's a problem that's hilarious that's a problem it's a problem you know i'm kind of retarded this is listen this is remember for two years they said trump worked for i've heard of political
Starting point is 02:00:30 mudslinging my whole life for two years they said trump was an agent of russia he was an asset of russia the president then they did a whole report and then it came out that he wasn't there was no proof of it with the cia the nsa everybody and then they went like that he wasn't. There was no proof of it. The CIA, the NSA, everybody. And then they went like this. They went, well, we might have been wrong about that. I mean, it's mind-blowing. One of the most disturbing things to me was when Ted Cruz was cross-examining Comey when he was asking him questions
Starting point is 02:00:54 about what they did with evidence and how they doctored evidence. What do you got, Jamie? Oh. I just can't believe that Brian Redband is here. He saved us. Brian flew in when Jamie tested positive for cooties And we had to have Direct protocol
Starting point is 02:01:10 So we had to have the protocol Was you have to be 10 days And you have to test negative 3 days in a row Should Brian move here? Brian's gonna move here You are too I might I might
Starting point is 02:01:24 I gotta save LA first He's looking at houses right now. You are, too. Tim's going to move here. I might. You're moving here, bitch. I might. Come on, son. I don't know. I got to save LA first for the sake. Listen, it's not coming back. I know. Hey, let's talk about that. The clubs are not coming back. Please, a little bit of stuff. I don't want to fight you.
Starting point is 02:01:35 We're not fighting. And I'm not. This much apple juice, I'm having trouble thinking. It's okay. It's okay. I love you. No, you did this. Just have some.
Starting point is 02:01:43 No, I can't. I can't. I made a promise. But on election night, I can pop in. We're going to have one right here. That's November 3rd. That's okay. It's okay. I love you. No, you did this. Just have some. No, I can't. I can't. I made a promise. But on election night, I can pop in. We're going to have one right here. That's November 3rd. That's November. But I will be able to pop in.
Starting point is 02:01:50 I have six more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're very excited. Put that down. I have six more days of sobriety. That's going to be a fun night. But I got to be honest. I'm a little high from this cigar.
Starting point is 02:01:58 Hey, you couldn't have a bigger promo for your election night. I'm glad you actually announced it here. Well, Kyle Kalinske's been asking when he can announce it, so now you know, Kyle. There you go. It's official. There you go, Kyle.
Starting point is 02:02:09 I'm excited to get everybody in the room and watch the demise of Western civilization in real time. Can I show you some stuff? Yeah, what do you got? Do we ever find a quote for Whitmer? I can't find anything. There's lots of quotes,
Starting point is 02:02:21 but I can't find anything. Do you want me to find it? Can you? Just Google it on your phone. Tim and I will talk amongst ourselves. And then we'll pull up whatever that is. Okay. Gretchen Whitmer, they almost kidnapped her, by the way. No, I don't have it. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 02:02:34 Whitmer, when Trump leaves office, quote. She was almost on that. There was a kidnapping plot against her. No, it's Whitmer. Lockdowns won't end until Trump gone. Come on. Right. Lockdowns won't end until Trump gone. Come on. Right. Lockdowns won't end until Trump gone. Try that.
Starting point is 02:02:48 Whatever. I know it's true. Try that. Whitmer, lockdowns won't end until Trump gone. He'll find it. Yeah, the plot to assassinate her. What the fuck was that all about? It was a plot to kidnap her.
Starting point is 02:02:58 That was weird. And I predicted up front that it was going to be FBI provocateurs, and it turned out the two leaders were FBI informants. What? What's even crazier is 52% of the citizens of Michigan agreed with the plot. That's a joke. That's a good one.
Starting point is 02:03:14 They're going to edit that part where you say that's a joke. Joe Rogan's guest calls for kidnapping. This is outrageous. D-platform. This is central control. When I went on Alex's show, Alex goes, Snopes always goes and finds jokes he makes, and they go, correction, Hillary Clinton is not an Oompa Loompa.
Starting point is 02:03:32 Did you guys see that Brett Weinstein's Unity 2020 account was also banned from Twitter? My producer just told me that, yeah. His Unity 2020 account, which was calling for a third party, was calling for unity between people on the right and the left to get together and have conversations and perhaps even have an alternative candidate. That's outrageous. Well, he's a fucking scholar. And he's a guy who became famous because he was a professor at Evergreen University and
Starting point is 02:03:58 the leftists took over the college. When they said, we're going to shut it down and whites can't come one day a month. They had. And then they banned him. Yes. Well, they didn't just ban him. They went looking for him in the parking lot with a baseball bat. It was terrifying shit.
Starting point is 02:04:12 So let me ask this. And then the principal was going along with everything. Literally, they yelled at the principal, don't gesture with your hands because you're threatening us. But he was talking like this. Put your hands out. And they started laughing at him. British universities hands out. No, no, no. British universities like Oxford, I think is the one. Look it up.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Oxford or Cambridge, one of the big ones. You can't clap. It's a microaggression, Joe. Oh, that's so crazy. But this is what we were talking about for years. And people were saying, why are you concerned with what happens in the universities? It's the same thing we were saying about censorship. Because it fucking keeps going. It doesn't stop yeah when you when you allow that kind of nonsense in universities those kids graduate and they want to carry these goofy fucking practices into all of these
Starting point is 02:04:54 corporations let me ask you about this question now this is now it's one of the things i wrote down i wanted to ask you joe and tim dylan what what happens how where do they stop because they're going to keep running until they hit opposition, which is starting to happen. How far does it go? I was hoping there was going to be some sort of a federal regulation. I was hoping that Trump was going to step in and they were going to amend the First Amendment to include social media.
Starting point is 02:05:17 Because I think what you're seeing now, the argument that these are just private corporations, I don't think that argument is valid anymore because the impact that these are just just private corporations i don't think that argument is valid anymore because the impact that they have the significance of being able to speak or not being able to speak to speak has massive implications on our election we see this with the new york post election meddling we see it with the new york post being censored with this hunter biden story whether you agree with the story being leaked or not the fact that the new york fucking post which is a legitimate newspaper as being leaked or not, the fact that the New York fucking Post, which is a legitimate newspaper, as outrageous as they are,
Starting point is 02:05:48 and the fact that the fucking White House press secretary gets banned from Twitter for tweeting that link. That's very dangerous. This is crazy. I mean, I think it leads to sadly, it leads to violence, because if you take everybody's ability to communicate away, there's nothing left to do but commit acts of violence. And by the way, that's a Kennedy
Starting point is 02:06:03 quote. Those that make peaceful revolution. Jamie found something. This is as close as I could get to what he's asking to be found. Okay. The Trump virus response is the worst in the globe, she said. If you're tired of lockdowns or you're tired of wearing masks or you wish you were in church this morning or watching college football or your kids were getting in-person instruction, it's time for a change in this country, and that's why we've got to elect Joe Biden.
Starting point is 02:06:32 I mean, that's pretty. That's right. I mean, you can make that. You can make it say whatever you want almost. Yeah. But that's the common sentiment, right? Right. The problem is if you just take it
Starting point is 02:06:45 from if you're tired of lockdowns and then you would get one you would get one interpretation of it but if you back it up to the trump virus response is the worst in the globe she said if you're tired of lockdowns so what she's saying i think we're splitting here i mean you're not necessarily because what she's saying is okay well i saw not necessarily because what she's saying because that's the problem with taking something out of context what she's saying is we got a wonderful person trump's no i'm not saying that what she's saying is that trump has done such a shitty job that's the reason why we're locked down you can't go i get it i get it the headline i don't know if that's true though i think when you got a contagious disease you got people flying in from Europe and China
Starting point is 02:07:25 and all these other countries that are expressing. You're going to have spread. This is a fucking insanely contagious disease. Listen, Joe, one of my favorite parts of your show is when you ask Jamie for something and the light turns on when you're looking at it. Let me ask you this. You're into numerology.
Starting point is 02:07:39 How hammered are you right now on scale one to ten? Not at all. We're into numerology. This is when it gets good. You better. Okay're into numerology. This is when it gets good. You better. Okay. Let's talk. Just be nice to me, Joe.
Starting point is 02:07:52 I am being nice to you. You got me here. I know you are. Let's get serious. Everybody wants to hear what I actually have to say. Okay. Numerology? What was the question?
Starting point is 02:07:59 You had me on 9-11. Yes. 12-5-5. Now 1-5-5-5. Yeah. Don't connect the dots. I'm in town. It's random. Well, you told me you'd pick 9-11, 12-5-5, now 1-5-5-5. Yeah, don't connect the dots. Just, I'm in town. It's random. Well, you told me you'd pick 9-11 on purpose.
Starting point is 02:08:10 Yeah, that was on purpose. Yeah, it was just fun. Nothing bad. But this is, do you understand how this quote, you could interpret that in a different way? Like, I think what she's saying is that... The entire Democratic Party strategy is to say trump is to blame for covid which and to say the economy shut down till you get them elected i don't think that's what she's saying they're all they're all saying i understand joe biden's like we're gonna end this
Starting point is 02:08:33 covid by endless lockdowns once trump's out if you want to go back to normal do this and their own listen this is a end of civilization event the rockefellers and others put out operation lockstep they're never going to stop this they're going to have covid tracking they're going to have checkpoints they're going to have apps on your phone how do we stop this what trump came out and did and said we cannot defeat this with vaccines and with covid tracking with shutdowns it's going to have to be with uh herd immunity which is what the scientist actually brought articles why can't we beat it with what he beat it with he's 74 and he eats french fries every day this motherfucker kicked it in four days that's what i'm supposed to be a death
Starting point is 02:09:15 sentence if you've got vitamin d vitamin c and zinc it's very hard to get okay but clearly he's got more than vitamin d vitamin c and zinc He's got a bunch of medical treatments. He was given Regeneron. He was given things that are expensive and probably not widely available. But wait a minute. Jamie tested positive. He's right over there. Jamie's young and viral.
Starting point is 02:09:38 I'm saying since when does something come along? Civilization is over. Civilization is over because of this thing that came out of China. You're not even supposed to come. You want to ask where COVID came from? You want to ask where it is? Jamie, do you feel better about the Z's now that you kicked it so quickly? How old are you? Not at first.
Starting point is 02:09:56 How old are you? 37. At first, I was a little worried for the first day. I was like, oh, here we go. Are we going down like a two-week, three-week, four-week? Ventilator time? Months. Right.
Starting point is 02:10:05 Because you've talked to people on the show that have been fucked up by it. Sure. How lucky am I going to be today is also what I was thinking. But still statistically. But you were also taking all the vitamins. I mean, yeah, I got all that. We had NAD and all that stuff, too, in my system. So maybe that helped.
Starting point is 02:10:19 I'm sure. Hopefully it helped. Sure did. Of course. Statistically, they said 5% of us would be dead. It's not even 0.1%. This is what they thought. But they're the all-powerful gods.
Starting point is 02:10:29 It's like the UN says, you will not question us. Big Tech says, you will not question anything the UN says. Meanwhile, the UN's like, oh, we shouldn't do a lockdown. It's killing millions of people's starvation. But still, it's like, we're keeping the lockdown going, the United Nations said. Well, what do you think should be done? But still, it's like, we're keeping the lockdown going, the United Nations said. Well, what do you think should be done?
Starting point is 02:10:49 I mean, I think we should look at something that isn't much worse than the flu and say we all need natural vitamins and nutraceuticals and sunlight and health and people should just know they've got to deal with it the way it is because we always get diseases. We always get viruses. We always live with it. The idea we've got to lock society down and go into our houses and this is a post-industrial move that they're using to roll out these systems to keep us locked down in our homes right and if you want to be cynical this is where you step in and say the reason why they want us to be upset and they want the economy to be fucked is because they hate the
Starting point is 02:11:19 president and they want him out of office and they want to regain power they want the democrats to remake the american economy in the image of what they want. They want to remake a lot of these systems that they feel are, for whatever reason, Injust. Injust or unjust or whatever, and they want to use this opportunity to kind of redraw the lines. Exactly. They do that after 9-11. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:11:41 This is the new 9-11. The UN and the Davos group all say, this is the post-industrial world, the great reset. I got a copy of it for it right here. And they say in these documents, we are going to reorganize society. COVID is good to shut down the carbon. Carbon is bad. We're going to end success. We're going to end prosperity. We're going to track everybody. We're going to control their lives all under the name of COVID. They said all that? They, we're going to end prosperity, we're going to track everybody, we're going to control their lives, all under the name of COVID. They said all that? They said we're going to end success, we're going to end prosperity.
Starting point is 02:12:10 Yeah, in the lockstep Rockefeller document 2010, they say we'll have a viral release or a simulated one that creates total fear, we'll bring a police state, martial law. Is this available for someone to read? Absolutely. Alex, wasn't there something called Agenda 21 or something where they were saying we want people living in cities,
Starting point is 02:12:25 we don't want home ownership. Compact cities, yeah. And you were saying it earlier. They go, oh, it's for the greater good that we don't have cars anymore. It's for the greater good we don't have single... No, that's not what I was saying. What I was doing was playing devil's advocate. No, you were quoting them.
Starting point is 02:12:38 What I was saying... I'm not saying you said that, Joe. You believe in that. I was saying that autonomous... I do believe in cars too. Autonomous vehicles are, in the future at least, likely to be safer than people just driving and texting. Well, it's not safe giving control over these corporations and robots
Starting point is 02:12:53 and making ourselves obsolete. We need to build a pro-human future. Well, I'm pro-human. No, I know you are. I'm not saying you're not, Joe. Rockefeller thing from 2010. Sounds a weird segue. I'm pro-human.
Starting point is 02:13:04 I started... I was already looking this up, as you mentioned it, because I was going down my own little rabbit hole. It says, when I first started to find it, my first search just says, there's a large conspiracy that's been built out of this small grain of truth from this document from 2010. Okay.
Starting point is 02:13:18 That's what it starts to say. Oh, is that Snopes? Small grain of truth. Yeah. So Snopes is like God. Is it Snopes that you Googled? Let's focus on the grain of truth. No, no, no. Who says it's Small grain of truth. Yeah. So Snopes is like God. Is it Snopes that you Google? Let's focus on the grain of truth. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:13:27 Who says it's a grain of truth? Hold on. I got a lot of stuff here. No, no. It's Operation Lockstep, and it says a global police state will be brought in from a pandemic, and there'll be worldwide martial law. It actually says it in the document. Okay.
Starting point is 02:13:40 It's like they always go like, oh, there's no Hunter emails. They admit the emails are real. Right. I love that clock. It is weird that they go like, oh, there's no Hunter emails. The emails are real. Right. I love that clock. It is weird that they're saying TGT Studios. It is weird. Here's a document. Okay.
Starting point is 02:13:51 The Rockefeller Foundation Annual Report 2010. I'll control F. What would you like me to look up? Look up police state. Yeah, just look up police state. Don't forget the exact words. I mean, just go read it for yourself. Control F, police state. Nothing came up. Yeah, just look up police state. Don't forget the exact words. I mean, just go read it for yourself. Control F police state.
Starting point is 02:14:07 Nothing came up. This is just one paper? That's it? I mean, that's the whole PDF. It's really, really long. So when you Control F police state, nothing? Okay, what else? I mean, I've read it before.
Starting point is 02:14:19 It says that. So anybody can go read it right now. So you think they edited it? No. No. I mean, i can't remember the exact word okay well let's lick up pandemic look up pandemic pandemic just means widely distributed epidemic means you're actually sick
Starting point is 02:14:36 four mentions of the word pandemic okay all right with no network to transfer critical infectious disease information without open lines of communications. Thousands more fall sick. The new, in quotes, disease becomes an unchecked pandemic. By the time the right expertise is brought to bear on the problem, it's too late. The disease has spread around the globe. In a world of global trade and travel, what's traded faster and travels furthest are the microbes in every handshake. Southeast Asia are they what is this in reference to okay it says a few miles east young boy has been hold on don't please go back to that yeah just it's just it's just a scenario
Starting point is 02:15:18 that they're painting so make that a little larger no no go back to it just go back to where it was all right the potential pandemic the fast few decades have severely tested the world's ability So make that a little larger. No, no, no. Go back to it. Just go back to where it was. All right. The potential pandemic in the past few decades have severely tested the world's ability to work across human borders. Detection remains weak in many parts of the world. The public health response has frequently been slow and fragmented. The looming threat of infectious disease
Starting point is 02:15:37 presents humanity with a new challenge to communicate and collaborate swifter and with greater efficiency than ever before. That doesn't sound like they're trying to end the world. Okay, well, you're just reading one of these documents. I can pull up the articles. I can show it to you. I understand, but this is...
Starting point is 02:15:50 It's world government controlled. They talk about a worldwide police state. You search the term pandemic. I'm telling you what's in these things. Okay, emerging pandemics, the new century, SARS, avian flu, and swine flu. If we don't move quickly... Investigated systems to bring in global government. It seems like they're trying to prevent pandemics the new century SARS avian flu and swine flu if we don't move investigated systems to bring in global government seems like they're trying to prevent pandemics if we don't move
Starting point is 02:16:10 quickly viruses will by continuing our drive to invest in systems that coordinate efforts and share information the Rockefeller Foundation is working to ensure the global government to meet the health challenges of an interconnected world. Isn't the perfect analogy terrorism? Because it's like terrorism exists. People want to prevent terrorism, but it's like, how many rights do you give up in order to do that? And then all these proactive measures that we take to prevent terrorism, a lot of them create more terrorists. So I think it's like balance of like remaining a free society and dealing with a lot of these problems. Man, listen, I sit here
Starting point is 02:16:47 you know, we sit here and we talk about something and whether Jamie can find it or not becomes the arbiter whether it's real. So they found something about an AT&T lobbying and they didn't find a thing about this. I've got the Operation Lockstep documents where they say we're going to bring in this global authoritarian
Starting point is 02:17:03 police state. Okay, but you have to show us those well i mean i i'm sitting here in studio talking to you about this but i understand i understand what you're saying but we we wanted to try to but you know everybody else watching this is going to look it up well i hope they do they're gonna go crazy i hope we oh that's good i wish we could have found it right then if it's real no no i know you want to show it but it might be an interpretation of what they're saying like the whitmer now it says specifically the whitmer quote is just a criticism of trump she's blaming all this lockdown whitmer was found by the by the supreme court of michigan and by a federal court to have seized all three branches of governments and basically set up martial law they even use those terms and she was overturned saying that
Starting point is 02:17:44 quote i i want to when you say if you are sick of lockdowns and you're sick of not being able to go to church joe biden should be elected agree that is not a huge jump from what he said no it's not a huge jump yeah but the problem is the way it's being said she was talking about how bad trump handled the the rate of infection first of course and that's let's- All right, well, let's expand on that. I remember interviewing Lou Dobbs like 15 years ago, back when he was still on CNN, and we were looking at documents where it said, we're going to bring in global government, the North American Union, using the threat of viruses, migration flows, and economic collapse.
Starting point is 02:18:20 And they said like a deadly flu or a deadly SARS. Yeah. I'm sitting here watching this power grab watching the UN and and and and big tech saying well you can't say that that the UN's wrong because the UN's in charge since when is the news WHO and all these doctors all these medical doctors that come out and say other things other than like how steroids cured it or you know how hydroxychloroquine helped it how are they being banned? Even if they were wrong, they should have their license removed.
Starting point is 02:18:49 That's what that's about. It's not Google decides that if something isn't the UN, it's taken down. That's all I'm saying. Well, it is a problem that they're deciding which doctors to listen to and which doctors not to. When there is some real controversy as to how to handle the virus virus with treatment right what treatment is effective when it isn't effective now it turns out there's a lot of doctors that think that hydroxychloroquine isn't effective there's a lot of there's some doctors that thought it was and they think that a combination of zinc and hydro but the question
Starting point is 02:19:21 the problem is the people that are deciding what gets taken down or not getting taken down. That's a huge problem. And the problem is that the doctors who go, well, we think – it's like we've minimized the voices of the people that are saying one thing. Right. And we've elevated the voices of the people that are saying another thing. And it's like that becomes the real issue. Whether people like Trump, there's stuff to criticize about trump we all know that and in there but in their defense they're doing it because they think
Starting point is 02:19:49 that people are going to do something foolish and they're going to go out and spread the virus further because it's not the media's job though too this is the problem i think the media has taken on this really activist role where they are now they're worse it's not the media social media social media companies not not even necessarily the media where you have legitimate journalists that are taking on this role. Do you think he would do something in his second term about social media? I think he certainly is going to do something. Why hasn't he done something already? Because it's so complex.
Starting point is 02:20:16 Because they'll claim it's election meddling even though they're doing that at the same time. What we have is multinational corporations acting in tandem that are already making the nation-state obsolete they're creating a information warfare monopoly and they're censoring people and using that power they have and we just sit here denying it's going on until it's too late i mean it's it's a really serious situation and it is great it is a crazy situation where all of these tech companies all lean left all All of them. Yeah, they do. They lean left and they support.
Starting point is 02:20:48 There's no tech companies that are out there supporting Donald Trump. There's no tech companies that are out there supporting him. What's very interesting is tech companies are very wealthy people, right? They're insanely wealthy. But David Pakman had a really good point about that. That when it comes to their financial dealings, they're very conservative. They're very libertarian and conservative. Oh, they don't pay taxes. Right mean google pays almost taxes what i'm telling you does apple
Starting point is 02:21:08 complain about chinese slave factories in china no it's just what i'm telling you is it's all bs and when you study what they're doing i can sit on my phone and pull it up they talk about in lockstep bringing in a global authoritarian system they talk talk about riots. They talk about war. If you can find that article, send it to Jamie. Jamie got something? I found something, but I'm trying to understand what it's saying because it's speaking about years in the future as though they've already happened.
Starting point is 02:21:36 Well, we're not too far away from... Let's see it. Because they're painting another scenario just like they painted with that infection scenario. Archive.org, I found. I went to the second page of this link, but this is like scenario narratives. It says lockstep. It talks about pandemics from 2012 and the SARS and all sorts of H1N1.
Starting point is 02:21:55 So I skipped into the next page just while you guys were talking. And this is the part that's a little strange, which is getting into what I think he is now talking about. Where is that? Can you highlight it? It started here because it says something about Kenya in 2025 and people being weary of top-down authoritarianism. Okay. By 2025, people seem to be growing weary of so much top-down control
Starting point is 02:22:14 and letting leaders and authorities make choices for them. Wherever national interest clashed with individual interest, there was conflict. Sporadic pushback becomes increasingly organized and coordinated, as disaffected youth and people who have seen their status and opportunities slip away, largely in developing countries, incited civil unrest. By 2026, protesters in Nigeria brought down the government, fed up with the entrenched cronyism and corruption, even those who liked the greater stability and
Starting point is 02:22:47 predictability of this world began to grow uncomfortable and constrained by so many tight rules and by the strictness of national boundaries. The feeling lingered that sooner or later something would inevitably upset the neat order that the world's governments had
Starting point is 02:23:04 worked so hard to establish. Okay, I never read that, but that's the other stuff. It's in there. It's thousands of pages, man. Okay. It talks about global police state and worldwide riots. I mean, we're not that far away. It's weird that the way they're writing that.
Starting point is 02:23:16 They're writing it almost like this. I have never seen that part. I'm just saying it says stuff like that. Listen, look at these ideas like the EU, right? It's a supranational financial architecture. People are saying that borders are racist. People are saying that the idea of America is racist, the country is, you know,
Starting point is 02:23:35 the idea of a country or a nation state is racist. There is this growing idea or ideology that global governance is a good thing or that nation states are, you know, exclusionary and racist. Well, it comes down to this. good thing or that nation states are you know exclusionary it comes down to this it's not that nation states are perfect multinational corporations are bigger and operate in many cases more powerfully than governments correct yeah and so they want control and they say they want control and they're going to use racial differences between two countries to play them off against each other and they're going to use global crises to
Starting point is 02:24:04 centralize global control and that's what they say in these white papers is the corporations are using this for global control and there will be rebellions against it that's what i read and then people have more loyalty to multinational corporations and more loyalty they have more in common with people that live in london or davos or switzerland than they do to their american citizens and that that becomes the problem you've got google and facebook executives on jumbo jets and mansions telling us we've got to lower our carbon footprint and be poor they're hypocrites it doesn't hold water yeah how do we get out there it is authoritarian capitalism i mean i i remember i i don't have it in front of
Starting point is 02:24:42 me but i was reading the lockstep rostep Rockefeller documents and they predicted worldwide police state, authoritarianism, civil war. They're predicting in 2018. It says, will Africa's embrace of authoritarian capitalism a la China continue? And then Vietnam to require a solar panel in every home in 2022. And then in 2025... That's not the same documents I saw, but that's the question is... It's weird the way they're writing this. They're writing this as if they're predicting...
Starting point is 02:25:14 Already happened. Yeah. Well, they're talking about it like they're seeing the future and almost like it's fiction. But Joe, here's Trump saying, we're not going to control the pandemic. You don't. You get used to it. You you get over it you fight it with nutraceuticals you fight it with you know with with therapeutics it's the idea that bill gates came out two weeks ago and he goes we'll be shut down for 10 years is that what he said he said yeah he said this goes on for 10
Starting point is 02:25:39 years until there's not one corona case well they picked they picked the perfect problem. They can never defeat. But isn't that crazy? You see a guy like Jamie who literally kicked it in a day, and they're saying we're going to close down the world for 10 days. So the war on terror is still going on. Yeah, exactly. They want a problem that never goes away. Yeah, it's never going to.
Starting point is 02:25:58 I mean, the Cold War went on forever. I mean, this is just, they like these things. But we've entered into three hours in here, two and a half hours in here. We've entered into this weird spot. We're like, okay, what could be done? We're going to drink whiskey. I've already been invited to election night.
Starting point is 02:26:13 I'm here. What could be done? What can be done? Man, all I know is I try to tell the truth. I make mistakes. But I'm sitting here with these notes I've written where I read what globalists say. I gave you that Wall Street Journal article where they go, we're impure that we can get sick. It's time to get rid of all humans and merge with machines.
Starting point is 02:26:33 It's so beautiful. I think, well, that's just one kook. And then it's almost all these people. And really they're just trying to convince the public to all roll over and die but wait a minute that isn't that a provocative article by a journalist who's trying to paint a rosy picture of our symbiotic relationship with technology i mean when someone's saying like i mean literally saying looking forward to the end of humanity that's it's a provocative article it's like but that's the nihilistic attitude these people actually pick up i mean yes it is but it's also sort of this inevitable if you extrapolate from
Starting point is 02:27:05 where we are now with technology to where we're going to be in 20 30 years and when you look at things like neural link and you look at a lot of this uh technology that they're they're coming up but we're talking about big tech censoring us i don't want to plugged into my goddamn brain yeah it's probably a bad idea it seems like a bad idea to have them invade your body well when you're talking about centralized power like that it is a bad it's not a good idea it's a bad idea. It seems like a bad idea to have them invade your body. Well, when you're talking about centralized power like that, it is a bad idea. It's not a good idea. It's a bad idea to give them power over speech. All I'm saying is, Joe, and I'm glad you're here.
Starting point is 02:27:31 I'm glad you're here. I'm very excited to be here tonight, and I really appreciate you. We have to get people to debate the fact that there's people, engineers and technocrats, choosing their course and that the public is not involved in deciding that course. Well, I hope people are starting to understand when you see the White House press secretary get banned from Twitter, when you see the New York Post links get banned from Twitter, I hope people are starting to understand that giving people power, giving large groups power over whether it's national discourse, whether it's policy, any of these things.
Starting point is 02:28:06 It's bad. It's a bad idea. It's a bad idea. Exactly. You don't want to give Alex Jones power. The founding fathers, although they didn't predict technology, they didn't predict the internet,
Starting point is 02:28:17 they did predict what happens when you give human beings ultimate power. Right. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts, absolutely. Yeah. So, Joe, you just said it, so let me ask this question. See, you got a huge audience. We can really change the world right now.
Starting point is 02:28:30 I think we've done a good. No one's listening. No, they're listening. There's no one listening. If you want to change the world, you go on a Melissa Milano show. That's the show. Dude. No, no.
Starting point is 02:28:38 I only get three times as many listeners as her. People that are zombies don't matter. I'm sorry about what you mean. I'm sure she won't take zombie offensive. Let me tell you. I don't think zombies look like the nicest things you can say about us. Listen, you can look at Tony Podesta or John Podesta and laugh at them. They run the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 02:28:56 It came out two months ago in the New York Times bragging that they were in the meeting when they were wargaming on thousands of people listening on a telephone call. the meeting when they were wargaming on thousands of people listening on a telephone call they go we're not gonna concede and we're gonna have the country break up and we're gonna have secession and we're gonna call for the u.n to invade america how fucked up would it be if you all this stuff actually comes true the way this happens this will be fucking insane i have to use it can i use a bathroom good but when people are talking about be careful with that that camera don't bump that camera but i'm not saying it's gonna happen i'm saying they're saying it because if it doesn't happen i'll be glad but they're like oh you know jones is saying this is happening no i know you will be glad glad literally saying this does
Starting point is 02:29:38 happen this like this podcast can be heavily criticized right we are all aware of this but when we knew that coming in but when this goes, if this goes down the way you're describing it, how eerie would this be? Well, I don't, it would be very eerie. Eerie. It would be very scary because, let me tell you, like, this is what they're saying they're going to do. Now, I hope they don't do it. But they are saying that they're going to contest the election when they lose. They are saying that they're going to contest the election when they lose.
Starting point is 02:30:15 And if Trump tries to declare it, big tech is going to implement this AI system that's going to block hundreds of millions of Americans from being able to say Trump won election night. So that's why election night is so spectacular. And some people can say, well, there's never been voter fraud before. Voter fraud has been so minuscule in the past. That is true. But however, the ability to vote by mail in advance never really existed like it exists exactly 80 million ballots put out there 80 million ballots put out there's a total wild card so who is counting all these ballots it's the locales it's whoever grabs them it's whoever puts in the false names there's been a
Starting point is 02:30:41 bunch of people arrested right but if you're say if you're in a democratically controlled state, so who is controlling and counting those ballots? Brian Redman. He's a good guy. He'll tell us the truth. Brian, get over here real quick. He's going to be here for two minutes. Okay.
Starting point is 02:31:02 We need Brian. No, I mean, seriously, I don't know what's gonna happen joe i know the democrat chief strategist says we're gonna contest the election we're gonna break the country up like civil war 1862 and we're gonna do all this and we're gonna say that go ahead they found water on the moon. Awesome. They did find water on the moon. You know, six months before they said that, Buzz Aldrin called me up. And he said there's water on the moon.
Starting point is 02:31:36 And he goes, they're going to crash an Indian probe in there. It's like 2007 or something. They're going to crash an Indian probe on the moon. I want you to know we already crashed one. They're going to find the water. I was like, thank you, Buzz Aldrin. So he called you up yep does buzz call you often no he's called me like three times are you ever shocked are you like he's like it's alex's buzz actually got like 20 million views before they took it off youtube he was on the show one time and he goes my secretary really likes you oh he goes is she a hottie? You're lucky I'm doing this.
Starting point is 02:32:06 I'm like, well, yes, sir. And he goes, there is the moon of Mars that is where the real obelisk is, 2001. And the aliens created the pyramids. And I just wanted to tell you, Alex, you've got to go. He said the aliens created the pyramids? Yeah, and there was an obelisk on Mars. I heard that part. That's not as shocking. Buzz Aldrin said the aliens created the pyramids? I there was an obelisk on mars i heard that part that's not as shocking the the
Starting point is 02:32:25 buzz buzz aldrin said the aliens created the pyramids i'm telling you i was contacted by buzz aldrin's secretary and i'm not picking this up it's just real i don't believe you are and and it's just like whenever this was like 12 years ago whatever 10 years ago whatever it was like hey buzz aldrin wants to come on so he checked Buzz Aldrin. He wants to talk about his new book. And once he gets on, he goes, it is the sole moon, Choron, or whatever it's called. Look up the moon of, I want to have memory. I get this stuff wrong sometimes, of Mars.
Starting point is 02:32:57 He goes, that is where the true obelisk is, and that will give us the data tapes to go to the next level. And I just wanted you to know that because you're a good person, that the pyramids were created by aliens and we're doing important work. There he is. Buzz Aldrin admits aliens built the pyramids and Phobos monument. Oh, the, the, uh, he said it after he talked to me on C-SPAN. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:17 And so he said, he really said aliens built the pyramids. I swear to God, this guy really went off the reservoir. Like you think NASA is like doing a better vetting process now? Because this guy really... Well, he's had tough times. Well, he just endorsed Trump.
Starting point is 02:33:31 Oh, did he? Why did he endorse Trump? All the military endorsed Trump. All the police units endorsed Trump. But listen, I'm not bragging. I don't know why. I thought he had something about a book he wrote. He starts telling me about aliens, the pyramids, and the freaking...
Starting point is 02:33:44 Let me ask you this. What did you about the pentagon saying recently that they've recovered crafts that are not of this world i think it's probably true i think it's probably true as well i think we're like the ditch like a movie theater but i talked to uh stuff of the ditch like yeah when i talked to commander fravor um who is the guy who saw that uh the tic-tac ufo off the coast of San Diego, the way he describes it and the video footage that they got of this thing. And his take on it is fucking chilling. That thing went from 60,000 feet above Tic Tac.
Starting point is 02:34:16 Okay. Yeah, it looks like a Tic Tac. That's Joe's new code name is Tic Tac. I thought it was a Tic Tac UFO. No, no, no. What? It's a huge problem. No, it's just a little TikTok thing there.
Starting point is 02:34:25 I fucking 12-year-old TikTok-ing in the house. And what did he say about it? He said that this thing went from 60,000 feet above sea level to one inside of a second. Wow. He said it defied propulsion by any understanding that we have of physics. The way it moved was insane. It was actively blocking tracking systems, which is an act of war. That's not what I do.
Starting point is 02:34:46 They block all the radars. You could listen to him on my podcast, but I would actually recommend you listen to him on Lex Friedman's podcast. It's available on YouTube. And Lex does an amazing job of talking to him and breaking down the technical aspects. Let's do that. Joe, what do you think the universe is? What do you think?
Starting point is 02:35:01 Let's talk real. What's the secret of the universe? Totally legit report says Buzz Aldrin saw aliens when he was up in space? Let's talk real. What's the secret of the universe? Totally legit report says Buzz Aldrin saw aliens when he was up in space. That's sarcasm. Oh. Well, that's not totally legit.
Starting point is 02:35:10 Joe, is that you in the photo? They said that he... I don't look like that. How dare you? Someone reached out to his people and they said that it's bogus and we don't know where it came from. It's bogus,
Starting point is 02:35:18 we don't know where it came from. Well, he came on my show and said that... The pyramid thing? The pyramid quote? He said it's bogus? The UFO. Well, maybe they pulled them aside.
Starting point is 02:35:25 But Joe, let's have fun here. Everybody's watching. This is an epic podcast. It's part three. Joe Rogan. I want to know. So what do you think runs the universe? What do you think the secret is?
Starting point is 02:35:35 Who are the DMT elves? When's the last time you took DMT? It's been a couple years. I don't think that there is any doubt that there's other life out there. It's a matter of if it contacts us regularly, whether or not it's contacted us, or why it comes and why it visits. Or Jacques Vallée, I believe, I think his perception is not that they're from another planet, but that that would be probably the least spectacular answer,
Starting point is 02:36:06 and that they could be interdimensional travelers. Some people believe that they're time traveling. Jack Vallee is the guy who, Steven Spielberg, he modeled that French scientist in Close Encounters of the Third Kind after him. He's a really, really interesting guy. Well, that's what I personally believe is interdimensional. It could be that. It could be that our understanding of reality itself is very limited. It's like if you wave your hand above certain insects, they have no idea you're even there, right? They lack the ability to detect it. We have senses that we assume are the only senses that are available.
Starting point is 02:36:42 And it is entirely likely that there are many dimensions that we don't have access to right and this is the quantum physicists and all those guys that write the shit on yellow legal paths you don't understand they they all believe there's many many dimensions there's no doubt so that's what i agree with you i agree with you. I agree with you. I think the universe is insanely huge, and they're finding life-compatible planets on a daily basis. There's hundreds of them now. So I agree with you. Let me ask this question then. What do we do about this corrupt political elite trying to make us look at them and follow them?
Starting point is 02:37:18 How do we break free of them? Well, that's a different thing of the universe. But my question is, like, why are they telling us now that they've acquired these ships or that they they they have access to these things or that they know these things are real you know um bob lazar has basically been describing exactly that and exactly the same way since 1989 when uh when he was uh first hiding uh when he was first hiding, when he was on George Knapp's television show in Vegas, and they had him only as a silhouette. And then he eventually came out and said that he was a propulsion expert that was brought to Area S4,
Starting point is 02:37:54 and they've tried to discredit him, and they've tried to talk, but one of the things that he said was he talked about Element 115, and that this was something that they used to propel these crafts, and it was something that it can change gravity, can bend gravity and propel itself in a way that is not like any propulsion system that we use now, which essentially you have to push something out the back to make it go forward, whether it's flames or a rocket or anything else, like even an airplane, right? It propels things forward. And what he was saying is that what this element 115 is allowing them to do is to somehow or another bend space and time, somehow or another bend gravity. Fold space. But they don't know how it works.
Starting point is 02:38:36 They don't know what it's doing. But let's talk about this. But they know it operates on this element. Let's talk about this. Hold on. They know it operates on this element that was only theoretical until I think it was 2013 or 2015. They used a particle collider and they detected it in an actual element 115 that it was actually real. And that's what the superconducting supercolliders are for.
Starting point is 02:38:58 Well, I mean, they're for detecting many things. Cyclotrons. Well, these particle colliders are for detecting many different things that are theoretical. And they find these things to be true and then it becomes, you know, scientific record. What I think is that we are apes. We are these
Starting point is 02:39:15 weird talking apes that are in an adolescent stage of technological evolution. And what we might be looking at when we see these tic-tac UFOs and other things, we might be looking at when we see these these uh tic-tac ufos and other things we might be looking at something from the future we might be looking at time travelers we might might be looking at something that comes back and you know i think
Starting point is 02:39:34 that's i think that's a good approximation but we're a little bit beyond just apes clearly we're from outside the planet and there's something bigger going on like this this life form's happened before this is a major test and so we can sit there and just say oh we're just apes no i don't mean that what i mean by we're just apes is that in comparison to what we could be eventually through evolution you're saying we're in a metamorphosis yeah we're we're we're on a look we're a lot smarter than apes right than regular apes that are in most of us in in the zoo yeah or in some of the public's dumber than that yeah right i was about to say some of them are dumber paint with a broad brush
Starting point is 02:40:08 but we are nowhere near where our potential lies right our potential lies far far far in advance of what we are currently and i think some of this has to do with some of these uh symbiotic technologies that we're talking about like neural link and a lot of these things that are are being proposed that are eventually going to find their way into the human body and accelerate our ability. Are they going to censor our ability? See, because we're already growing, and all I see from big tech is censorship, so is the Neuralink going to censor what I do? A little plug in and make me feel great and hit my pleasure centers.
Starting point is 02:40:42 Well, when you're talking about human emotions and greed and power and all these different things, these are all biological issues that we have that the idea is will be transcended if you could somehow eliminate a lot of these. If you believe the big tech lords aren't like us. They're us, though. So they're in charge of the same thing that we already are. So to say, oh, big tech lords are going to take us away from our human problems. Right, but do you understand?
Starting point is 02:41:07 Transcend sin. They're going to make it worse. Okay, but do you understand that they didn't understand what technology was going to create when it created the internet? No, I totally agree. The establishment doesn't know what they're doing. The ability to distribute information that existed pre-1990, whatever, when the internet became mainstream it was very very very different than it is today and it's very hard to get away with the things you get away with in the early 1980s what they what they can do now in terms of a regular person and their ability to transmit
Starting point is 02:41:36 information to access information it's all i'm saying is the controllers giant leaps i get it the technology's there i'm not against the technology. It's those that introduce it to us and they control how it's deployed. I understand. That's the big issue. Everything is about that. What I was trying to get to is the way information has gotten out of their hands. And you can distribute it in a way that they never anticipated.
Starting point is 02:41:59 If they did anticipate it, I guarantee you they would have never let the internet be free. No, I agree. I used to complain. I think that same thing is going to happen with all other technologies. And if that's the case, technology may be our only hope. Technology may be the only thing that saves us from all these human emotions, the need for power and greed and control. The one thing that might save us from that is the symbiotic relationship with technology
Starting point is 02:42:23 where we connect to things that will alleviate a lot of the problems of evolution if that technology i don't i'm not saying this is good or bad i'm not saying you're wrong can i say something yeah you're doing really good this is great rants best show rogan i've ever seen i'm not being patronizing it's good stuff it's okay you're drunk no no i'm saying this is powerful. Be nice. Be nice. What I'm saying is there's outside groups trying to program that. So you can't project your own goodness onto this. I'm not saying even goodness.
Starting point is 02:42:55 I'm saying. No, what I'm saying is, you've been ranting for five minutes, and I'm just going to say, I get what you're saying. It's just that you're sitting there saying this will free us from our problems but it's still humans that program the nexus points of it so it could actually amplify the problems i'm saying we should be wary of all of it oh it certainly could look it could go sideways it could all go bad but it also could go to a point where people don't feel the need to do that anymore and that we
Starting point is 02:43:26 recognize that a lot of what we have is we are escaping the shackles of our monkey bodies our monkey bodies yeah so if we're silicon and have don't need resources anymore we can just be spiritual and then we'll be able to free ourselves and not hurt the earth anymore hop in that tic-tac and fly to alpha centauri in the blink of an eye. We need to... No, I already see the transmission. If you could have a spaceship that would allow you to go anywhere in the galaxy,
Starting point is 02:43:53 would you be willing to give up any of your emotions for that? No, I know the digital deal. Give up your body for the Silicon Gods and become a god. This is all fun and games, but like in California we're not even allowed to go to Applebee's, so let's stop with the
Starting point is 02:44:09 spaceship. Let's just try to get, I'm not allowed to leave my fucking house. I want to go to the comedy store. Yeah, I mean we'll get a spaceship eventually. Let's get a few rights back first. I'm coming to election night. You're drinking with me. Election night. Top ratings. 25 billion viewers. Stop. Listen, you invited yourself to this. I think you here election night. You're drinking with me. Election night. Election night, baby.
Starting point is 02:44:25 Top ratings. 25 billion viewers. Listen, you invited yourself to this. I think you should settle down. Aliens. You told me I'm coming. No, you invited yourself. We already had you.
Starting point is 02:44:34 It's not coming. No, I said you could come in for a little bit, but you're making it the Alex Jones show. No, I'm not. It's a bit of an issue. Alex Jones election special. It's a bit of an issue. Apple juice. It's a bit of an issue.
Starting point is 02:44:43 Settle down. It's a bit of an issue? It's going to be a fun experience. It'll be a lot of fun. No, quit being so mean. You literally... Am I being mean? No, not at all.
Starting point is 02:44:52 I think Joe wants to beat my ass right now. No, I don't. Listen, Alex, I love you. But what I'm saying, and I'm not even disagreeing with you, I'm saying that I think when we're talking about aliens and we're talking about life forms from out of space and space travel and shit. The big issues of the election. You see those fucking things. Like the iconic aliens.
Starting point is 02:45:11 They all have big heads. Yeah, the greys. The greys. Tiny, muscle-less bodies. Shaved heads. Shaved heads. Yeah. They're keto.
Starting point is 02:45:17 Like you. They've escaped all of the things that make us. You're actually an alien. They look like what we're going to be. Yeah, but who wants to be that? I don't want to be that right now. I mean, that's what I'm saying. No, I'm with you.
Starting point is 02:45:28 I like being a person. Right. I think we should be humans for as long as we can. What do you think aliens are? There are all sorts of interdimensional forces in the universe and multidimensions. So there's like bad aliens that are trying to manipulate our development.
Starting point is 02:45:44 Gretchen Whitmer. because a high level exactly a high level would not try to manipulate our development right okay so so joe is like imprinting on these demons because he loves them he's a bad person i'm joking no no seriously so all i'm saying is is we need to build towards the next level and do amazing things what do you you think of the... And I did invite myself on the election show. I got on my news in front of Joe. I'll do it again right now. Stop making it about you.
Starting point is 02:46:13 No, it is about me. I'm in front of Ganesh. I want to come on. We're going to ban you from alcohol. You're going to smoke weed with me. What do you think about... I'll be here two minutes. What do you think about the theory that human beings are the product of accelerated evolution? That they came down here and they genetically manipulated lower hominids and they created human beings?
Starting point is 02:46:35 Listen, I already have a genetic memory. I already told you all this. I mean, I already... You have a genetic memory? Yes. That's epigenetics. Yeah. Okay. So I have a genetic... You have a genetic memory? Yes, that's epigenetics. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:46:46 So I have a genetic, you have a genetic memory. Right. I have a genetic memory, and I have a genetic memory that we're, you know, I have a bunch of memories. It's like you go watch Star Wars. Like, I've done this before. This looks totally normal. We're in the universe. We're in the planets.
Starting point is 02:46:59 We're here. Our life's forms have been all over the place, like little seeds that jump from planet to planet, like blowing through the space winds. So, yeah, we've already been here before. Because this is one of the things that Lazar brought up that they discussed with him at Area S4. They said that they believe that human beings are the product of accelerated evolution. And he wasn't sure if they were fucking with him. Like, when he was reading all that stuff, he's like, is this, like, disinformation? No, they weren't fucking with him.
Starting point is 02:47:23 Yeah. I mean, look, God doesn't know where God came from. Whoa. And we said that last time. That's heavy. And we don't know where we came from. Right. But we have the archetypal memories that go so far.
Starting point is 02:47:38 And then our big fear is have an evolutionary death of the species. It's like a line of, or plants or whatever we are. And it's a whole genetic experience. We're conscious individuals, but then we have a genetic experience that goes on forever as long as the line of the genetic experience doesn't die. So we're always looking for eternal life. As long as we keep having kids, they have kids, we live forever.
Starting point is 02:48:03 That's us. We just get better. Well, as long as the Earth doesn't experience a massive extinction event. But that's what I'm saying. Well, if we go interplanetary. So the main mission is that. November 3rd. 79 days.
Starting point is 02:48:15 79 days of chaos. I am endorsing Joe Biden right now. I'm voting for Kanye. By the way, that might be a good strategy if you endorse Joe Biden right now. I'm going to go with my history of voting for people that have been on the podcast, so I'm going to vote for Kanye. By the way, that might be a good strategy if you endorse Joe Biden right now. I'm going to go with my history of voting for people that have been on the podcast, so I'm going to vote for Kanye. I'm going with Joe Jorgensen because I like to back a winner. Am I sitting in the same seat as Kanye?
Starting point is 02:48:32 Yes, you are. All right, I'm fulfilled. It's the best. All right, but before this goes any further off the rails, I think we're good. We've done it. Oh, you want to end this transmission? Do you? I never got to all my notes.
Starting point is 02:48:43 You got more shit? What else would you like to talk about? I got more shit than you can fucking imagine here. You got to come back November 3rd. You got to have guys wheeling documents. Just wheeling documents. Joe said it. He's like, you're the one inviting yourself November 3rd.
Starting point is 02:48:56 Oh, you're coming. You certainly did. I waited like 19 months or something. Alex, if I showed you the list of people that are trying to get on this fucking show, it would make your head spin. I know, but I live down the street. I understand. I don't care.
Starting point is 02:49:09 You don't want me 30 minutes on election night? We're going to be fine. We're going to be fine. But I'm just saying. I don't know. I don't want to survive without it. I'm fine. It's very difficult for me to manage a fucking small fraction of the number of people that
Starting point is 02:49:20 are trying to get on. Well, this is an epic podcast. We've got to go another hour. It is. It's like last time. I would be podcast. We've got to go another hour. It is. It's like last time. I would be dead. I'm okay with going another hour. This is going to be bigger than the Elon Musk.
Starting point is 02:49:31 It doesn't have to be, man. Stop thinking like that. I'm the second biggest podcast. You can't be competitive. Every listener has to spread this link right now or I'm going to die. Well, YouTube. No, I wrote notes for you. Let me read these notes to you.
Starting point is 02:49:44 Yes, please do. Please do. Okay. Okay. What's important? Major goals to accomplish. How the president could invoke martial law. You handed this to me.
Starting point is 02:49:54 I don't even know what he did. It's like a magic trick. Yeah. All of a sudden, this is in front of my hands. I don't even remember it getting here. I don't remember me having it. Well, these are big, important topics. Highlighted.
Starting point is 02:50:04 Do you drive around with this just in the car? No, he's actually done research to prepare for this show. No, these are big, important topics. Highlighted. Do you drive around with this just in the car? No, he's actually done research to prepare for this show. No, I know. Don't research shame him. And then I was like, I'm not gonna drink. I'm gonna be good. We're already here. We're talking about heavy shit. I just wish this was six days from now so I could be drunk. How many hours are we into this? We're three.
Starting point is 02:50:19 We're three in. If we don't break the last record, we're going down. What's the last record? No, we don't have to break records. No, Tim Dillon, you rant while I get ready. Give us your latest comedy. I love Joe. It's true. I was like, literally, I'm going to use a joke. Can I please come under the election?
Starting point is 02:50:37 Listen, we're going to be fine. Let's not talk about that. He slapped me. We're good. He punched me in the nose. He goes, boom. I didn't do that. And I groveled around.
Starting point is 02:50:43 None of that happened. But tell me, go over your notes, and Tim and I will talk. Is this everything that you hoped it would be? This is my version of a Make-A-Wish kid going to Disney World. This is the greatest thing I've ever done is to sit here. I've watched Alex since I'm 13 years old. Pre-9-11 when he was ranting about the WTO. And I followed him through 9-11, through Bohemian Grove, all the big events of my childhood.
Starting point is 02:51:07 And it's just as big to be here. Can I say I'm very impressed with your knowledge? You know a lot of this stuff. Well, I didn't go to college, so you have a lot of time. You have a lot of time if you don't go to college. I'm self-educated. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of information that you have at your disposal.
Starting point is 02:51:23 Yeah. You got some notes? I like how your new studio is like a colon. Listen, this new studio came together in just a few weeks. We really didn't know what to do. I'm not putting it down. I had this room. We banged it out real quick.
Starting point is 02:51:36 But this is going to be known as the colon. The red pill. Some people call it the red pill. That's Radio Rahim. Oh, my God. This is the red pill. He called it the red pill. So this is a very rare studio. You're getting a new one ready, I know. Yeah. That's Radio Rahim. Oh my God, this is the red pill. He called it the red pill. So this is a very rare studio.
Starting point is 02:51:45 You're getting a new one ready, I know. Yeah, we're having problems finding a good location, but yeah, we'll have to move on. How about my house?
Starting point is 02:51:56 I got a huge area. We're going to find a good spot. It's amazing. We're looking right now. We're in the process. All right. It's amazing. We're looking right now. We're in the process. All right, let's get serious. Okay. Oh, I covered a lot of this.
Starting point is 02:52:12 Alex, we're good, man. We're good. No, we have another two hours. But we're going to see you again in a week. So I am on the nightly news. Relax. Be here. I have to beg.
Starting point is 02:52:24 I'm going to have to beg a little bit. Don't act. Come. Be here. I have to beg. I'll just beg a little bit. You don't have to. Come on, man. I'm not below blinging. Is there anything else you really want to discuss? No. I mean, I'm glad that Jamie is better than I am at Search the Internet. I'm not kissing his ass, but I'm really good at it.
Starting point is 02:52:37 He's better than I am, which almost no one is. He does it with one hand. The problem is I remember all this stuff. Now, most of the time it's accurate. Sometimes it's not. But, I mean, if I'm saying something, I believe I saw it or I didn't. One thing that was in there, I didn't want to correct earlier, but the year you were talking about something, you kept saying 1963,
Starting point is 02:52:55 and then they went to, like, 82 or whatever. That happened in 73. That group wasn't even around yet, the something of Rome. Club of Rome. Yeah, that wasn't even created until 68. So just for clarification purposes. Okay, cool. I think they had a subgroup earlier than that.
Starting point is 02:53:12 I'm not saying you're wrong. Yeah. Well, who knows? I mean, he has George Soros COVID. This is a compromised individual. Google might have compromised the records. Oh, that's another thing I want to say. Can I say this?
Starting point is 02:53:24 Yeah. This is the most another thing I want to say. Can I say something? Yeah. This is the most important thing we said tonight. We said a lot of important things. Both of you are not drinking. Yes. So you don't know. Right. But this is it right now.
Starting point is 02:53:37 Okay. mRNA vaccines. Yeah. So when you think about a regular vaccine, goes in, it's a broken bacteria, a broken virus, it's defeated, your body learns how to kick its ass. It's like a dummy. It's like having an attack dog training on a dummy.
Starting point is 02:53:54 The T lymphocyte, white blood cell, it's like a big badass Mike Tyson, it learns how to defeat it. mRNA vaccines go into your cells as a virus. They're viruses. So it's a virus they inject you with that reprograms your cell to then have a certain response to things and release proteins, which is what cancer does.
Starting point is 02:54:16 And so they admit on the news that 100% of people that take these are getting sick. 20% are going to the hospital. And so they also have vaccines that are called behavior modification vaccines you can type it in okay but let me pause right there mrna vaccines you said 100 of them get sick and 20 of them go to the hospital they had two studies in one study 100 got sick 20 with the hospital another study 80 got sick, 20% were in the hospital. In another study, 80% got sick, and of those, 20% were in the hospital. That's CBS News. Jamie's going to find that right now.
Starting point is 02:54:50 You type in Bill Gates grilled over vaccine dangers. You'll have CBS News reporting it. But the point is they admit a bunch of vaccine deaths have happened now from the test. But what was that getting to before that? You were just talking about mRNA vaccines. Behavioral modification. Oh, behavioral modification. Yeah, so type in vaccine to cure heroin addiction.
Starting point is 02:55:09 We're going to get to that, but before we get to that, we've got to Google the stats on mRNA vaccines because this is going to be highly contested, so we have to find out. Well, no, you can type. I'm not going to share the clip. Bill Gates. But we just Googled the stats on mRNA patients in trial.
Starting point is 02:55:28 I think they don't even have the stats on that. So how do you know it? Bill Gates was on CBS News. And he said 80% of the people get sick? Yeah. And 20% of them go to the hospital? No, it was two vaccines. They said one vaccine 100% got sick and a certain percent went to the hospital.
Starting point is 02:55:46 The other 80% got sick and 20% of those went to the hospital. And sometimes that does happen even with a flu vaccine, right? Like sometimes people get a little sick. You type in Bill Gates grilled by CBS, they'll bring it up. Right. Certain vaccines do get people a little bit sick. Well, we had that conversation about the whole thing in India. You know, he introduced a lot of vaccines in India.
Starting point is 02:56:05 There were some negative reactions to them. I mean, that's what happens. It's just a lot of people... Joe, I sent you the article. At mRNA vaccines. I sent you the article about AP, about the majority of new
Starting point is 02:56:21 polio cases are the Bill Gates vaccine. You win. We'll get to that, too. Let me see if Jamie can find this mRNA thing. I don't know how to find it, really. You know, you don't have a Morton's next door here. mRNA test.
Starting point is 02:56:37 I'm trying to look it up, but I'm like... Are we going to get a steak or are we going to go barbecue? I'm just finding lots of barbecues. No steaks? Yeah, I'll get a steak. It's hammered. I want a steak'll get a steak. It's hammered. I want a steak. I'm going to get a hammer.
Starting point is 02:56:47 He was making a point about vaccines and now we're at steak. I am not hammered at all. I've been drinking orange juice. You polished off a half a bottle of orange juice. Joe, I'm just telling you to have fun. I'm happy you're here. Legitimately. So if you can't find that
Starting point is 02:57:06 The behavioral modification vaccine What is it you want to find? Bill Gates polio vaccine Causes of polio AP AP.com The headline, the exact headline is Why does everybody hate Bill Gates?
Starting point is 02:57:22 What is going on? Because he's so sexy I don't think people hate him. No, it was like, AP, Bill Gates did not say 700,000 people have negative side effects. He did say that.
Starting point is 02:57:40 My God, he said it on NBC News. Bill Gates did not say 700 000 people have negative side effects from a coronavirus vaccine i have the video that okay but pull up ap bill gates polio vaccine but that's a coronavirus uh he said polio vaccine all right okay now i'm pissed i'm gonna tell you the headline it was uh we'll see if there's a polio hold on what was the headline article it was uh un un vaccine causes polio un vaccine causes polio okay un vaccine causes polio google you know this sober october google is compromised can you just ask please un says new polio outbreak in in Sudan was caused by oral vaccine. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:29 Whoa. It's not good. New polio outbreak in Sudan is caused by oral vaccine. Look at that kid's face. Oh, my God. Is that a terrifying image? The image of them distributing that. Look at that poor kid's face.
Starting point is 02:58:44 Imagine that kid getting polio from that vaccine. He looks so terrified. Oh my god. Yeah, I mean, that's tragic. Then a bunch of them died, but it's just me. It's just Alex Jones. Hold on, hold on. Back up. Back up, back up, back up.
Starting point is 02:59:00 What does it say up there? World Health Organization says a new polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to an ongoing vaccine-sparked epidemic in Chad. A week after the UN... Vaccine-sparked epidemic! ...health agency declared the African continent free of the wild polio vaccine. World Health Organization said it found 11 additional vaccine-derived polio cases in Sudan and that the virus had been identified in environmental samples. There are typically many more unreported cases
Starting point is 02:59:30 for every confirmed polio patient. That's why I wash you. The highly infectious disease can spread quickly in contaminated water and most often strikes children under five. Fuck. Jesus Christ. In rare instances, the live polio virus in the oral vaccine can mutate in a form capable of sparking new outbreaks so let me tell you a story my grandmother died three years ago
Starting point is 02:59:54 at 92 incredible woman that's fucking terrifying she was told by her doctor in 1954 when she got the second polio shot they said said, sorry, it was live. It paralyzed her. She was on crutches the rest of her life. They told her it did to her. Jesus Christ. So, see, I just told you that. Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 03:00:14 And that's a whitewash what AP's doing. I would imagine. So, I'm telling you, I make mistakes because I can't remember all this stuff. I understand. You remember a lot. But I'm not trying to lie. The last thing I want to remember all this stuff. I understand. You remember a lot. But I'm not trying to lie. The last thing I want to say is this. I'd like to retire the next year.
Starting point is 03:00:31 I'd like to finish up my work, clean up mistakes I made, talk about other stuff because I'm going to die of a heart attack or going crazy. I'd do this 18 hours a day. I'd like to get you in shape. I'm totally stressed out, Joe.
Starting point is 03:00:42 I'm dying. I know you are. I'm dying. I literally do this stuff constantly. I read thousands of articles a day. I i know you do if i text you at three o'clock in the morning you respond right back you're wide awake i'm not i'm not a victim i'm telling you i'm dying i understand so i can't do this much longer and i want everybody to know i love my crew but i told them i can't keep running this operation i just want to tell the truth and i want to get out in the next year doesn't mean i won't go on your show once a year and write a book or something, but I'm done.
Starting point is 03:01:05 I want you to get healthy. I need to get healthy. I try to get healthy. Why don't you hire a trainer and hire a dietician? I try. Because I know you got off the booze for quite a while, and we were talking, and you said you felt great. I did feel great. I lost like 40 pounds.
Starting point is 03:01:19 How long did you get off the booze for? Four months of no alcohol, about eight months, and barely any in the last three or four hours right back. But you were talking to me about Adderall, too. You know the problem. I want you to talk about that because that's a good thing for people to hear, the problems that you had with Adderall. Because that shit scares the fuck out of me. Well, I'm not going to get into any of that type of stuff. The point is that the things that doctors push, the things that go on, the whole country is drugged up on a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 03:01:44 Yeah. And it's it's it's not good but i'm not i do caffeine and alcohol that's it and and it's all very very destructive and you know it gets to the point where like you're exhausted unless you drink and it's not a good thing that's why i'm glad you sober in october last october i was sober yeah um do you think you could just kick it totally? I mean, you kicked it for four months?
Starting point is 03:02:09 If I wasn't doing a show every day and having to read, I mean, I'm not exaggerating. I read 50 articles. I'd probably scan 500. I mean, I look at so much stuff that it's enslaving me. I just want to
Starting point is 03:02:24 I don't want to be around it anymore. It's not like I'm scared of it. I'm just, I want to be something else. It's negative. It has negative consequences on your health. Yeah, so for me, I just want to get away from all of it. What do you want to do? I'd love to go hunting and fishing and hiking and oil painting and doing sculpture.
Starting point is 03:02:45 I love metal sculpture. That's a beautiful chimpanzee skull right there. I mean, I've done this 26, 27 years. And when you've done it that long, you want to stay in the fight, but at the same time, you want to not do it anymore. And that's the thing about people, the Democrats suing me and attacking me. Before Trump even got elected, I was already telling people, hey, I'm going to shut shut this company down I can't fund all of you I can't do this anymore them attacking me made me keep fighting did you think that if if you were healthier if you maybe just did less you you could be all right with it I didn't do that as a stunt.
Starting point is 03:03:25 I'm being quite honest with you. I'm a smart. I'm a smart. I think I'm going to die of a heart attack at like 50-something. I'm 47 now. And I just have to like, there's no way to do this full-time.
Starting point is 03:03:37 Either you do it or you turn loose. And I'd like to just for a few years just disappear. So you think that the amount of shit that's out there, and this is a problem with conspiracies, right? Because you keep finding more and more and more that are provable, and you start going crazy because you start really...
Starting point is 03:03:55 Exactly. You can't sleep. And then you lose who you... Exactly. I don't like the globalists. I'm not giving in to them. I'm giving in to my own body. I understand.
Starting point is 03:04:03 It's not their... Their attacks keep me fighting them. They keep thinking, oh, let's mess with him more. He'll give up. That makes me attack more. I'm trying to get him to top attacking me. It's not some Machiavellian thing I'm saying.
Starting point is 03:04:15 I just want to... I don't want to be... I don't want to look at the news. Maybe if you just took some time off and just got healthy. Maybe that's what you need. Maybe you just need an extended vacation. I mean, you're your own boss, right?
Starting point is 03:04:28 You could do that. Do you ever think you maybe shrink the operation down a little bit and then you could kind of do what you want, how you want, you know, instead of just being a 24-hour day operation, you could just take it down? Well, here's my problem. I'm going to get personal. I mean, I had perfect teeth till like two
Starting point is 03:04:45 years ago i have to wear a mouth brace because i literally crushed my teeth when i was asleep like i broke one just the other day i got implants going in right here and i'm just like literally in my sleep clenching my teeth so hard that i've got like giant muscles like i'm not a real schwarzenegger but my jaws are right like they're like like a chipmunk and it's because that psychologically I'm trying to defeat all this and it's just like it's like a certain point I can't do it all right so I don't feel sorry for myself you've earned it you've earned some time off yeah why don't you just take take some months off just like mark an extended hiatus you know whenever you feel like you could get away and just decide you're going to take three months off put the fucking cell phone down eat healthy exercise you mean you could hire
Starting point is 03:05:30 a trainer you know not a bad idea there's nothing i want to do more than that because you know what i'm doing this sober october thing and when i've done it in the past one of the things that we've done is these fitness challenges you don't even realize what you can do until you're forced to do something. If you force yourself, like say, hey, for the month of January, I'm not going to drink and I'm going to exercise every day and I'm going to put it up on my website and let everybody know what I'm doing and just force yourself to try to get healthy. Only eat healthy food and maybe get a yourself to to try to get healthy only eat healthy food
Starting point is 03:06:05 and maybe get a dietician maybe get a trainer not even maybe get a dietician get a trainer get someone who makes you uh like meal preps for you gives you healthy food to eat and this is all you're gonna eat is this no no process bullshit just healthy food wouldn't be a bad idea just take a whole month and do nothing but that just leave the fucking news alone let this crazy world sort itself out no i agree because now i look at news and it's just like you still like oh i got them right here i was like now i'm almost like oh my god yeah because you're probably overrun you know it's you're probably taxed out your body's probably like barely hanging in there i mean if you're boozing
Starting point is 03:06:45 a lot and you're not getting sleep and you're grinding your teeth none of these are good signs now i've been honest about with the listeners but you know at the end of the day like this is fundamental this is an anti-human movement it's a globalist movement and i get people that are doing it or sociopaths that have created a cosmology to explain why they're doing all these evil things. I just feel like it's such an important mission that it should be exposed. Joe, I'm just glad you moved to Austin. I'm glad that Tim's here.
Starting point is 03:07:14 I'm glad that all this stuff. Tim's moving. He just told me. I've got to save L.A. first, and then I want to go work with Bill and Melinda Gates for a while, and then I will come to Austin. You can't save L.A. I know.
Starting point is 03:07:25 I know. I know. We'll see. November 3rd. So, Joe, what is your prediction? Who wins? Who wins in six days? I'm not smart enough to make the prediction, but I do think...
Starting point is 03:07:34 Trump's going to win. I think it's going to be chaos either way. It's going to be chaos. I think if Trump... I've never, ever in my life felt this country more divided. It feels more divided now than i've ever felt before where the the possibility of a civil war doesn't seem outside the realm of of
Starting point is 03:07:52 possibilities it doesn't seem like something ridiculous it doesn't like people used to say if they said it in the past someone said all this country is on the brink of a civil war 10 years ago i'd be like listen to this crazy fuck right you it now, and I go, I could see it. Yeah, Tim, why are you not moving to Texas? Well, I might eventually. I might eventually. I don't know. We're going to see.
Starting point is 03:08:13 I got to open a comedy club here. Joe convinced me that Joe told me to move to LA a year ago. And then I moved, and it just destroyed. Well, the pandemic. He told me to move here. I might move here. No, no, no. No problem.
Starting point is 03:08:22 We're going to start a comedy club out here. Yeah. We're going to set this place up right. Well, thank you for having me again. My pleasure. I appreciate it. I appreciate to move here. I might move here and it'll be a problem. We're going to start a comedy club out here. Yeah. We're going to set this place up right. Well, thank you for having me again. My pleasure. I appreciate it. I appreciate you being here. It was everything I hoped you would be.
Starting point is 03:08:30 Good. This was a great one, Alex. This is really good. I got to see a side of you that they maybe even didn't see in the other two podcasts. I think you did a great account of yourself. Really? You think so? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:08:43 Yeah. A lot of the shit that you brought up today was, I i mean you were pulling shit off the top of your head and a lot of it was accurate a good solid percentage i'm not trying to bullshit no you're not trying to bullshit no i know you're not and this is what i've always told people about you and and again i think that we're at a critical time where we've got to rethink all these people that are calling for people to be censored and calling for people to be deplatformed and i think you got to rethink this i think everybody has to rethink this because you you might be looking back on this 10 years from now and going oh my god what the fuck did i support but i agree with you but we should you're
Starting point is 03:09:19 being nice to to the censors they're tyrants i think we should hear everybody's views i think there's a lot of people in this in this machine and a lot of these people they they're tyrants i think you hear everybody's views i think there's a lot of people in this in this machine and a lot of these people they're not tyrants they think they're doing good they really do i think there's a lot of people that are out there calling for people to be deplatformed calling for people to be censored because maybe they have children they see their children being indoctrinated into q anon and all this kind of ridiculous thinking. And maybe they think that the way to fight some of this shit is to just take that stuff offline so the kids have no access. That only makes their children want it more.
Starting point is 03:09:54 Well, not only that, it makes the people that believe that there's a conspiracy to silence the truth, it makes them even more fervent in their beliefs. They start believing it even more rabidly. And not only that, it creates echo chambers. And let's end this positive. You are happy you moved to Texas. I fucking love it here.
Starting point is 03:10:13 I love the people. I love the town. I love everything about it. I do. But that's the good news. And Tim Dillon, you come here, lower taxes, good people. We want all the people from other parts of the country. Great food to come.
Starting point is 03:10:27 Good food. Food here is amazing. Yeah, there's a lot of great stuff here. And the kids here are into QAnon, which I think that's good. All of them. The children should be into QAnon. Well, they get tattooed when they're in the fifth grade. Listen, I love you, Alex Jones.
Starting point is 03:10:38 Thanks for being here. I love you, Tim Dillon. Thank you for having me. Thanks for being here. Thank you, guys. We did it. We did it. We did it.
Starting point is 03:10:44 All right. We did three and a for being here. Thank you, guys. We did it. We did it. We did it. Alright, what did we do? Three and a half hours? Something like that. Yes. Infowars.com. To infinity and beyond. Band.video. Don't visit it. Band.video. Bye, everybody. Thank you.

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