The Joe Rogan Experience - #1567 - Donnell Rawlings & Dave Chappelle

Episode Date: November 19, 2020

Donnell Rawlings is a stand up comedian, actor, and podcaster. His podcast, The Donnell Rawlings Show, is available on YouTube and most podcast platforms. Dave Chappelle is a stand up comedian and actor. Look for Chappelle's Show now streaming on Netflix.

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. John L. What's going on, bro? Good to see you, my friend. Take me to the river, I want to go. I'll go.

Take me to your river I wanna go I don't even know who sings that. You don't know who sings that song? No. Leon Bridges. Leon Bridges. Yeah, he's like a folk country singer, black dude.

I think he's Louisiana's where he's from. But about five years ago, he had a very popular song. That was like a song that really charted well. It was called The River. That was that? That was that song. There he is. And then what he does is-

You wear, Jamie? You know what I do? I've seen them before, yeah. I don't know that I know the song. But this song is like, he's had other songs, but for some reason, this song resonated with a lot of people in the country, man. It was like him reminiscing with going to a place that made him feel good in the river. I hope when we go over to Spotify, we can play it.

I go, take me to your river. I want to go. I'll go. That's pretty much it. That's the one part everybody knows. It's acceptable now for people to wear neck scarves. Are you being insulting? Neck kerchiefs.

No. Not at all. It's normal. If you'd wore that on any other time, I'd be like, what is on your neck? And I would explain it to be a gator. Right. A gator. I know what it is.

I know what a gator is. I hunt. This is what it is. It's my gator. You wear them when you're sneaking up on animals. Or people. Or people. Well, that color's not, you can't sneak up on anybody.

Or people. Gay pride. Well, there's a lot of colors in that. Yeah, I guess that's a rainbow. Yeah, this is. Not a traditional rainbow. This is a liberal, liberal gator. Liberal gator.

Yep, it's accepted by anything. Gay people, black people, Hispanic people. I'm sorry. No worries. My baby mother asking me about weed. Jesus. Because you don't like me. Because you don't like me. Why you keep blowing me up about weed?

You said you don't like me. She likes your weed. I mean, they like something, man. What happened to your thumb? I got shot. Who shot you? That's a question I haven't found the answer to really it was this shit happened so quick joe i didn't really get a good look at a person the person that shot me um not too many people around to witness it but i have the wound to show that i got shot what was the situation i I was, my dog,

I got a new dog. She's adorable. Listen. That's as adorable as a dog gets, ladies and gentlemen. Look at that little cutie. Can you see her on camera? Yo, this is my emotional support dog. That's Maggie? Yeah, that's Maggie. Maggie, come here, sweetie. Come here, Maggie.

Come here, honey. She's adorable. She doesn't know what coffee is. She don't know what weed is, but she doesn't know what coffee is she's like she don't know she know what weed is but she don't know what coffee is but i was protecting her some people were joe you want to hear the story about how i got shot or what yeah i was protecting her honor right i was protecting her from a hell of bullets it was a gang it was a lot of people i don't remember all of that but i got shot in my motherfucking thumb where were you in the streets oh just regular yeah i was i was in the streets no not just the streets no no town no just the streets and that happens sometimes joe you put yourself hanging in the streets you put yourself in some unforgiving situations. And that's what happened to me.

And that's how I got my motherfucking thumb shot the fuck off. And that's the story I'm talking. That's the story that I'm sticking to. So you got caught in the crossfire. A hell of bullets. Jesus Christ. 45 shots rang out. Really?

Mm-hmm. Legitimately? Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. Wow. And this is the only injury I sustained. I'm very happy that that's the only injury you sustained. You're not happy about it, Joe, because when I... I love you.

Come on. I know you love me, but when I told you I got shot, you continued to question me about... Well, Donnell, that's because you're Donnell. Right, but you continued to... I didn't question you like I didn't believe you. You did, 100%. But you said it so casually. That's what you... I said, do you want a drink? You said like i didn't believe you you did 100 but you said it so casually that's what i said do you want to drink he said i can't i'm on antibiotics i said

what happened i got shot that's usually any of any of my other friends who've been shot if i said hey man what happened and they said i got shot it wouldn and just end right there they would say it's a crazy story ever man yeah but you know I'm away to the car and I had my little dog right I was protecting her and that's the story that I told but the thing that you didn't believe me if someone said he got shot you can't say I didn't believe you that's not true it didn't look the look of your face is like it's unusual the way you were describing it I got shot and then you wouldn't say anything more just like which is black people don't know what happened how'd you get shot well remember i had a disagreement with so-and-so well we finally had an opportunity our

paths crossed we found in a situation where those energies came together we was like how are we going to settle this right it wasn't like that i understand it wasn't like that it was a okay so you don't want to get specific about details. No, I don't want to get specific. I just want you to respect the fact that I got shot. I believe that you got shot. I do respect it. I'm sad that you got shot, but I'm glad you're okay.

I'm better. I'm good. So how is your thumb doing? Is it going to be all right? Yep. It's going to be good. You know, we got all the bullet fragments out of it. You know, we avoided the surgery, so I'm going to'm gonna be good just got to get the range of motion back oh that's real good they

didn't have to do any surgery and tendons or anything like that nope i got lucky i have a friend who cut his finger on a window man and he never got his fingers back again his fingers are like this curled i know everybody knows a motherfucker like that and we've all made fun of that motherfucker we've made fun of the person that you know that don't have a thumb. But I'm telling you, doing this, after me surviving this gunshot shit, just butting in my pants become a task that I took for granted. Right. The point I'm making is that you're lucky to have all of your limbs, all of your shit on your body. Yep.

It's true. And you don't appreciate it until one of them motherfuckers gone. Well, I think that's the case with everything, right? Like, we didn't appreciate how good we had it before the lockdown, before COVID came around. Nobody appreciated how good we really had it. We was living in the moment. We were also spoiled. We were spoiled by how good everything was.

But we didn't think it was spoiled because that was what was going on. Right. Until shit shifted. And then same thing, like you lose your thumb. You're like, oh, shit. You know, I really do appreciate doing those three spots that night. You know what I mean? I appreciate the fact that I could just walk with my family anywhere and I wouldn't be judged.

I wouldn't be discriminated against or whatever. It'd just be like, there goes Joe and his family. Not just like, do you have a mask or not? Right. You know? But I do believe that it took a pandemic for people to really realize what the most important things in life are. I think so for sure. I think at the beginning people were nicer because they were scared and they were like, it was almost like post 9-11 feeling.

Right. Like we're all in this together. that didn't last very long it it was unrealistic to think that everybody's gonna be that way people don't get frustrated he wants also resources started getting low and people started realizing they're not gonna be able to work for a long fucking time did you see the governor got busted did you see the photos which governor governor california he got busted for what got busted going to a restaurant with 12 people, no social distancing, no masks. All the shit that he's been preaching for, he didn't do. They were saying that he was in outdoors.

His people said it was outdoors. But now they have photos of it, 100% indoors. They're all indoors, talking, sitting. The unrealistic part about that, you know people got to push their platform. This mask shit has been crazy. But me, I know it shouldn't be like this. And I know it's like, but what does it represent? You got your girls up in you.

But what does it represent? She's so adorable. When I see motherfuckers like that in a situation like no mask, not social distancing, I just assume that they've all been tested and they've all been in a bubble situation. Well, that's because you've been in a bunch of bubble situations. Like when Dave did his shows down in Yellow Springs. Like you, you've been in a bunch of bubble situations. Like when Dave did his shows down in Yellow Springs. You bubbled me first.

You're the first person. You didn't rape my nose. You raped my finger. I didn't do it. You hired a nurse. You made somebody do it. You can call her whatever the fuck you want to do, but she worked for you. And you forced that she had to do it

well i just suggested it probably a good idea for everybody yeah but they but it was good for everybody and you knew that so we know like that's above the world yeah but it's not surprising that you see the governor in a situation like that because i'm pretty sure it doesn't send out the right message but i'm pretty sure that the motherfuckers was tested well that's what he should have said they can't say that because they're a politician and everybody would go wait a minute if i just test people can i go to work like what dave's doing with all his shows yeah test people in the audience you can have a full audience you can you know you have a bunch of people that are healthy you know you you you're taking the measures to create that safety yes it's a bubble here's the thing that a lot of people

understand is that like you could literally create your own bubble. Yes. I know people that want certain states. You have to meet a certain requirement to be tested. You can't be tested unless you start showing symptoms. But you can create your bubble. There's testing almost everywhere. There's an opportunity for people to get tested.

It's a little harder than that for most people because but most people mean state for state most people in terms of like just people's of just your access to it it's not that common where you can go to a place and get a quick test yet okay so then what's the difference and i may be wrong that this may be my ignorance like california like i know the situation like a dod know what I'm saying? Like, for the most part, anybody with, I guess, a California idea, whatever, they can get tested. You know, but hold on. You know that takes hours. You know, those people have to wait in line for hours. There was a line.

To get it done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when does that matter? It takes fucking, if you have a job, man. If you have a job and you're supposed to be at work at 9 a.m. And you get to the COVID thing at 7.30 and they tell you it's a two and a half hour line. That's what it is. That's the reality.

And most of those aren't giving you the results immediately. Not immediately, but enough where you could, if you got those results, let's say you get those results in 18 hours. Say you were going to plan a family function or something. Yeah, you don't do shit for 18 hours. What I'm saying is like, when the bubble,

the idea of the bubble first started, started with the NBA, you kind of contributed to that. Dave did it. Well, UFC did it first. Yeah NBA. You kind of contributed to that. Dave did it. Well, UFC did it first. Yeah, they did it. Well, we did it and UFC did it first. But they always thought like, oh, my God,

you don't have to be a millionaire to create a safe bubble for you and your family, your friends, right? No, you can do it now easier than ever before. But the problem with the governor saying it is other people will let us make a bubble and go to work because Because that's what they should do. What they could do is what we're doing here. We're just lucky that podcasting is an essential business. I think she's trying to jump down.

She's not trying to kill herself jumping. No, I mean, she's just looking over the edge. No, she's my emotional dog. I understand. All right. If anybody's going to jump, it's going to be me. I'm in tune with her. Okay.

She's the most adorable little dog I've ever seen. I've never seen a little dog as a puppy. Maggie Rivers, she's five months old. She knows her biological dad, and I'm her new dad. It was important for me for her to know her biological dad, because I didn't want her to come from a place with mental issues and shit. I understand. She's in tune with her mother.

She knows her two brothers and sisters. They have play dates. She's a little cutie. She's my little with her mother. She knows her two brothers and sisters. They have play dates. She's a little cutie. But she knows she's my little bitch right now. What kind of dog is she? A Chihuahua Pitbull. No. She's a Spar Pitbull?

That dog don't look like a Spar Pitbull. What kind of Pitbull fucked a Chihuahua? A Toy Pitbull. Oh, really? Yeah, she's Toy. One of them little ones. She's Toy Chihuahua. Those Toy Pitbulls are cute little dogs.

Yeah, she's ferocious. Don't let that fucking sad's a toy chihuahua. Those toy pit bulls are cute little dogs. Yeah, she's ferocious. Don't let that fucking sad eyes fool you. Have you ever seen a toy pit bull, Jamie? I don't think so. They're really tiny. You know, real pit bulls, like the fighting pit bulls, they were like 30 pounds. They weren't big dogs. The ones that they bred for fighting.

The smaller ones are the little demons. I don't even know if I can remember ever seeing a small pit bull. Yeah. Brian Callen used to have a small pit bull. It was a tiny one, and it was ferocious. That's where he gets his personality from. It's not him. No, he bought it.

We went to a guy who raised them for fighting. Oh, shit. Yeah. We were, like, in our 20s. They were mostly puppies, but. Oh, my God. Look how tiny. Damn, that little motherfucker looked tough as shit.

The black one. Look at his face. The Black Lives Matter one, son. matter one side oh my god that's ridiculous that dog's ridiculous see that's the thing that they do they they take these dogs and they but they break their legs and shit like that right well no they just breed them they they do what's called uh like they they select right so like a dog with shorter legs they'll breed with another dog with shorter legs and they'll try to select for certain traits like i used to have a dog that was from hawaii and they used him for hog hunting that's what they use his family for so he had long ears it was a dog specific to hawaii yes yeah yeah they they breed a lot of pit bulls in hawaii and one of their jobs because most dogs have do lot of pit bulls in Hawaii for hog hunting. And what are their jobs?

Because most dogs, do they go get birds? What the fuck does it do? Hog hunting. Okay. See, what they do is, in the real thick brush, you can't really get to the hogs. Like, it's hard to shoot them even with a gun. Like, you're shooting through hundreds of yards of brush. But the dogs can go in there and get them, and they'll hold them.

They'll hold the pig. So there's a style of pig hunting. That makes the hunting easy though right it does except for the dog it's not like the same kind of hunting because you're relying 100% on the dogs usually there's two groups of dogs depending on what animal you like if they they hunt mountain lions these they'll use a certain kind of dog that'll obey the dog right obey the mountain lion and but if they hunt pigs a lot of times they'll use an animal that lets you know where the pig is and then they release other animals that hold the pig so those are the those are the pit bulls and then you shoot them well they usually stab them

hand like up yeah it's kind of fucked oh so that experience is all about the dog it's the dog is the one who did it and you just finished the job damn it's crazy too there's excuse me there's there's videos of it of the way they do it and it's like woof and i've been asked to go on one of those hunts i'm like i am not interested in doing that i get it what happens when the dog gets old do they like get new dogs but this is a this is a thing that people are doing for two reasons one for food right because this is the best way that they can get food like you can trap this animal and then that's how you're going to get the animal if you just rely on just hunting with like a rifle or a bow and arrow and real thick shit with wild pigs

you're probably going to go hungry so so there's that and then the other thing is these are invasive animals like they were brought over to hawaii and they're wild and they have no predators so they have to kill them they have to control so did they bring them over to kill us a species or something like i know that no no they brought them over for food oh okay like captain cook and those dudes used to do that they used to release goats i don't know captain cook i only ca i know captain crunch i know captain crunch as well yeah that's the cat i don't know delicious stuff yeah um captain hook was an old pirate right wasn't he cook cook don't say hook hook was a pirate too yeah

captain cook uh he used to go to islands and they would drop off animals so that the next time they came around they'd have something to eat that's smart yeah so they'd leave goats on an island i think that's how the goats got on galapagos i think that's how they got on a lot of islands the these pirates or sailors would drop these animals off but meanwhile these animals destroy ecosystems yeah but you had some fresh goat when you have some fresh goat yeah fuck the rivers they had a lot of turtles too they they killed off a lot of sea turtles because they would take sea turtles and they would flip them over and put them on their back and they'd be good for weeks and they didn't yep they would eat them because you don't you don't need any they don't need anything like they can survive just on their

back for weeks and weeks and weeks and you don't have to worry about refrigeration or them yeah but you can't tell somebody you're hunting turtles you're not trying to do it for sport. They slow as a motherfucker. Be like, I fucking stalked this fucking turtle for three days. I think they probably get them on the beach, but if you got them in the water, they'd be quick. See turtles? When I was growing up, we'd catch a motherfucking turtle on the road. And it was always one country motherfucker. Like, he usually was a mechanic in the neighborhood. And he had, had like oil up under

his hand he always helped people's baby mothers with fucking changing their brake pads and shit just one of those grimy dirty motherfuckers that eat any type of roadkill and whenever we saw fucking a dead turtle or something we knew that nigga was gonna be yelling out turtle soup yeah people like turtle soup yeah i'm not a big fan of it but i've never had it yeah it seems like it would probably be an alligator meaty meaty type of family alligator tastes good it is yeah everything tastes good when it tastes like chicken that's the reference for anything it tastes like chicken yeah i have frog legs recently they were good you it's i've had frog legs before but trying to convince a black person to eat frog legs is a tough sale. To order?

Yeah. To get a black person to order frog legs off of a menu is like getting them to say, I want my steak rare. It's always got to be well done. You eat well done? No, that's what I'm saying. I don't. But how do you eat your steak? Medium.

Medium? Yep. Not medium rare? There's a lot of black people that watch this show. They gonna be like, I'm gonna tell you when he changed. When they start talking about blood.

Medium rare. Yeah, when they was like, when they started talking about blood, that's when he lost the streets. I could do medium, medium rare. I can't do it. I understand. I've had it like that, but my preference would be medium. Yeah. But the average circle that I grew up around.

My jujitsu instructor eats it well done. And when he orders it, I cringe like, John Jock Machado, well done. I go, whoa. Do you know what that feeling is? Imagine a chef that gets the order and says, two well-done steaks at table 49. They're calling them every fucking racial thing that they can think of. That's the quickest way to fucking make somebody order a fucking well-done steak. Chefs do not enjoy it.

Not at all. They don't like cooking it like that. That's a weird thing, like a preference thing. If you ask people's preference, it's not like you just cook it. If you order chicken, they just cook your chicken. They don't ask you what temperature you'd like your chicken breast. But they know. Yeah, well, they just cook it.

Right. But even pork chops, same thing, right? They don't ask you. But with steak, they'll give you options why the fuck are you giving me an option if i can't have all done you should just have it your way but it's just insulting it is but it's insulting like give the opportunity to insult because they do have that as an option have you ever been uh a certain way like judge somebody by the way they order their steak? Yeah, I do.

Honestly. But again, John Jock Machado, like I said, I have nothing but respect for him. It makes me sad that he likes well-done meat. I know this is going to be bad. People will be like, what type of brother am I? But I took my sister out to eat once. She ordered a steak, and she ordered it well done.

I said, I think you should order something else. I said, I'm not paying for a leather belt. Wow. And I didn't even have to eat the shit. I wasn't going to do it. I just felt fucked up. You felt judgy. I didn't feel it.

I was judgy. A little judgy. Yep. I was like, let that fucking hood shit go. But isn't that the only food that we have that with? Like, cheeseburgers, nobody gives a fuck. If somebody says, how do you want your cheeseburger? Well, in the black community? done in the black community when you say

cheeseburger for the most part that's going to be well done yeah black people want to see the pink in it that's right they want they'll tell you all the pink out well you really should with ground beef see the thing with ground beef is you don't know what the surface area is when you're eating ground beef right they take a cows, and they grind it up. The stuff in the middle, like, that could have been on the outside, right? So you don't know, like, when you get a steak, you sear the outside, you cook the outside. There's no room for bacteria. Anything that could have grown on the outside is dead.

And the inside, you don't have to worry about it unless it's rotten. That's why black people get their fucking hamburgers well done well that's that's wise i'm saying we didn't know it but that's just what it was for a hamburger right you don't want to get food poisoning right yeah hamburgers unless you are right there when they grind it or you go to a top shelf restaurant where they literally they'll take a piece of chuck roast and they'll grow or even filet mignon like some of them do it with like a if you get a burger that's ground out of filet mignon you're in the right neighborhood you're in the right neighborhood they usually add fat to it believe it or not to make it juicier yeah to make it juicier what is it with white people with blood though i don't know i mean like

like i know this is a white people get a kick out of like the rarest they can order a steak like the blood part of it. Like, yeah. What? Rare is weird. When somebody orders rare. Well, you know what blue is? But you proud of the blood, Joe. No.

Every time you post an elk picture, it's like you can't just show the meat. You want motherfuckers to see the knife. And you do your picture, Joe. And it's like you waited for the blood to sweat at a certain temperature. You know when it looks the bloodiest and that's the shot you always get. That's not what I'm trying to do.

What I'm trying to do is show that it's cooked perfectly, that it's medium rare with respect for the meat. When I do it, I use a thermometer. I mean, I do it nice and slow and I know you know how to cook. Don't get crazy. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Don't get crazy.

Wait a minute, Joe. Just trying to explain something. Wait a minute, Joe. What? You're a man of wilderness.'t get crazy. Wait a minute. Don't get crazy. Wait a minute, Joe. Just trying to explain something. Wait a minute, Joe. What? You're a man of wilderness. Yes. Right? And all that.

You well respect it, right? Look at that, though. Yeah, look at that, Joe. Look at that. It's perfect. Look at that. That's perfect. It doesn't get better than that.

But you're proud of the color of it. Because it's perfect. It's perfectly cooked. But it looks, it's like, what is it? That's elk. That's elk. That's super athlete. I argued with someone because I told them that you like elk and I can make elk.

And they were like, this is what you can make. I'm sure you can make it. But they were like this. Papa makes it. The last time I spoke to you about me cooking, you were very condescending. That's not true. Yes, you were. You were making fun of me. No, I said it the same me cooking, you were very condescending. That's not true. Yes, you were. You were making fun of me.

No, I said it the same way I said you got shot. No. Okay. I said, you can cook? Yeah. And you're right. That's not condescending. It is.

But the way you looked at me, you looked me up and down. You judged me. And then you said it. That's the difference, Joe. That's the difference. When I said I could cook elk, you looked at me like, get the fuck out of here. Let me just hear what I've heard. Let me tell you what I've heard let me tell you

what I've heard I heard you cook really well I heard you have amazing barbecue skills that could be borderline racist quite a few people

that could be borderline racist that could be borderline isn't that your shit what is your shit you said barbecue listen barbecue

is one of the most complex forms of cooking you gotta be real careful you're doing it slow too much you fuck it up too little you don't do it right and then it slow too much you fuck it up too little you don't do it right and then it's hard to put it back on because it hasn't been sitting at the

same temperature the entire time that's the art of barbecuing but when i hear barbecue i think about the barbecue i understand like the black barbecue i understand like the frankie beverly and the whole thing it's a whole production not just one piece of barbecue that's what i'm barbecue in texas it's mostly white people And I, yo, as far as my own personal experiences. I will say this, white people can fucking smoke some meat.

They know how to do it here, I'll tell you that. When I first got, I think it's a place called Black's, I don't know if you found a favorite. Terry Black's,

phenomenal. Didn't that franchise, didn't they break up? Yes. They broke up. They used to be with the family, then the sons started on their own.

They started beefing with each other, literally. Yeah, they had some issues. I don't want to air their dirty laundry on the podcast. Right. But the sons opened up a spot. Somebody stole the barbecue secret sauce. Something happened. Something happened.

Somebody gave up the secret sauce. Terry Black's in town has only been open since 2014, I believe. It feels like a place that's been around 100 years. I mean, they got it dialed in. That barbecue's off the hook. It's so good. Think about it. They have to have it dialed in

if they came up generations and generations. Yeah. They're just putting whatever the recipe is, whatever the love is. No, they make their own smokers. They use giant propane tanks,

and they make their own smokers. Maybe that's what i enjoy next level yeah white people level of barbecuing when they start doing the machines and i should say they hire someone to make their smokers but they get this dude to make these smokers out of propane tanks they're not buying like a big commercial smoker they're having this commercial smoker made we they gave us a game bro they did an amazing job they wanted it to their specifications and those those uh propane tanks are thick as fuck it's heavy man where's the wood well you cook with wood okay wood is an offset you know how those smokers work right so you have an offset a firebox the firebox is over on the side and they're constantly checking the temperature

and opening the flues make sure it's at a perfect temperature and then you got the smoker which is off to the side and they're moving meat around because it's hotter where the air comes right out but they're really well it's oh my god they got it dialed in their brisket is ridiculous it's so good that's the what i'm talking about that shit milks your mouth and it's and it don't come off bloody like that it's a different kind of animal that's that's that's elk i mean you could have elk and you could do it that way. They cook the neck meat that way. My friend John Dudley. Elk neck meat?

Yeah, neck meat. Because the neck meat is very strong and dense. Because elk has giant antlers, right? So elk's carrot, it's like it's doing weights with its neck. But elk doesn't have no fatty. It's no fatty fat. No fat. No fat.

There's a little bit of fat on the outside of them, but there's no fat in the meat at all. It's a totally different thing. So you've got to cook it slow. So if it's anything other than that, like medium rare like that, it's going to be dried out. Right. You want it just cooked slowly and seared on the outside. So I take a totally different approach if I'm cooking a ribeye from a cow versus an elk steak. Completely different way of cooking.

I know that because you never post regular steak pictures. I eat regular steak. No, you don't. Once you did your fucking first elk, your regular steak pictures was just dead, man. Well, they're not as interesting to me. Regular steak is great. I'll cook it. I'll eat it.

But the elk is like i have an intimate relationship with that everyone knows that of course they do i mean even when i tell people i'm gonna do your show they're like take a bite of the elk for me i'm serious man it's like yo you done some cool shit they seen you do a lot of cool shit, but they never seen you. And you told me, do I really want elk? And I was like, yeah, but I was in the hospital recovering from an injury, so I couldn't get here the way I wanted to. That's a lucky injury in a sense, right? Like all the things that could have gone wrong with your thumb,

not even need surgery, able to get the bullet fragments out. I mean, that's how I run my life, man. I try to make it easy as possible. Anybody else could have fucking made this injury and been fucked up. If the pandemic can't stop me, neither can this fucking thumb, man. Yeah.

How does it feel? I know it's a crazy question. You get it all the time. From being from a place, like you were saying, like what we took advantage of. Yeah. And one of the things,

we never took advantage of stage time because we always did it, but not having it accessible to you all the time. How does it feel here with not being able to be like you know what i'm gonna go do like fucking three spots and hammer some shit out real quick well i haven't done that since march you know since uh the store closed down there was no comedy at all in la so it was right it was a whole life shift um the only time i did it on the road was july and in july i did four shows of the houston improv i had a great fucking time i just left there man great place it was did you feel i know this sounds crazy i know we're gonna get to some mad shit mask shit story whatever but it's a club that

had a certain capacity now they got to trim it down to meet whatever the mandated rules are but people were in there temperature check they were in there yeah i know this sounds crazy some people were masked some people didn't have masks and i'm thinking when i'm mistaken they sell the tickets as a group right i don't know if they're doing that now but they're doing that a lot of they're doing that in a lot of places. And it's like, you feel good about it. Yeah. You know, but then it's like people take away from that feeling because it's always somebody like, where's the mask? Where's the mask?

Right. There are people that are rightly upset at people taking risks because those people that do take risks could then get sick. And if they're irresponsible enough to take a risk and get sick they might be irresponsible enough to go out and mingle with people when they know they're sick some people are like that some people are selfish you know that right I know that and then they could even give it out

when they don't know they have it it could be asymptomatic but then at some point don't you have to be selective about the people that you engage with don't you have to be selective about the people that you engage with? Don't you have to be selective on the chances? This is my frustration.

I'm not a mask or a non-masker. Like, people make the argument, but what if I go to the grocery store and I have my mask on and there's this old lady that doesn't have her mask on? Then I don't think you should go places where it could be people that don't have their mask on. Shouldn't you order online or something? Just don't get in that lady's face, and you're going to be fine. Man. I don't think you should tell some old lady that she has to put a mask on.

I ran into an old lady at the grocery store. She didn't have a mask on. I was like, all right. What are you going to do? She's old, man. I mean, this lady, she probably feels terrible breathing through the mask. Anyway. She probably feels like she doesn't have much time.

She's about to have an asthma attack. She had one on, but she was doing this shit. The chin shit. I got into an argument. Yo. That chin shit that people were doing? I get yelled at. I went to a grocery store.

I'm getting a couple of items. And I had my motherfucking mask. And, Joe, when I tell you, the tip of my nose was showing. The tip right here. People got mad. And this, when I tell you, the tip of my nose was showing. The tip right here. People got mad. And this lady was behind plexiglass. She had sanitizer. She was squirting the register down every minute.

She had a mask, everything. And my shit went right to the tip of my nose. She was like, sir, sir, sir, sir. You got to put your mask on. You got to put your mask on. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Now I got to pay.

I do Apple Pay. But to get into my phone. You got to open up the phone. With my face. Yeah. So I put it down. Sir oh i'm sorry okay now i gotta pay i do apple pay but to get into my phone you gotta open up the phone with my face yeah so i put it down sir i'm sorry i'm like i'm trying to pay i gotta log on my face she was like well you can't do that in here right you can't use apple pay i can't show my face to open my phone you gotta use samsung pay that you let use your fingerprint time to switch to android i don't an Android. I don't have a that's very evil for you to another. I have an Android.

I know but I wouldn't talk about your fucking phone Joe. Why is it evil? Because it was the wrong time. It was the fucking wrong time. And the thing I was making so I had to. How'd you guys Sorry. This is what I had to was making so i had to how'd you guys you're digging this is a sorry this is what i had to do joe i had to actually stand leave the register go to where i could

outside yeah show my face over my phone and i went to pay and then when that happened i could have been pissed but i couldn't be like you know what i'm just never gonna go to that store again well it's just a lady working though just put the mask over your nose i'm not gonna put myself in a situation where i can get frustrated i did it it was just for is there any apple pay but you were already arguing with her right is that part of the problem i never said i was arguing so she was already telling you put your mask over your nose so she was in a heightened state of awareness frustration yeah but she also i don't know if it was me you know what it was me i didn't see that energy around anybody else perfect time to use the black card i'm not gonna do it it's the nose card she saw your nose and

she's some people are just like real sticklers for shit. You know Bridget Phetasy? No, who's that? Comic from LA. Writer. She told me she was walking on one side of the street and there was a guy across the street on the sidewalk on the other side.

Yelled at her. Put a mask on! Let me tell you something. This argument, I know it's for safety and everything. I know it's for safety and what the lies we share and all that. But for some people, it's a perfect opportunity to be an asshole. Exactly.

It's like, and that's the fine line. It's like, do you really care about this mask or you get to either, it's discrimination against masked people and no masked people. It's just people have an opportunity to tell people what to do. They get mad. They do. Yeah, they love it. And then you want to adhere to it.

Then they get mad because you're not listening to the rules. Fuck it. Right. Well, that's why people are particularly upset at this Gavin Newsom shit. Because he's been the one telling us you can't have large gatherings for Thanksgiving. Stay home. Social distance. Wear a mask.

In between bites of food. Right. This guy's been saying all this shit. And then he's doing something different. And now you go see him eating at a restaurant. So does that mean that we believe everything's what you got so that's a perfect example of you know a lot of things are uh motivated through politics and looks you know i'm saying everything that you see not what it's not really what you think it is so how much uh how much are you going

to put into a person like what their thoughts? A politician? Yeah. Not much. What kind of person wants to do that? That's the problem. What kind of person wants to be a governor? They're not normal. And you didn't care until the pandemic. When the pandemic rolled around, you realized, oh, the mayor matters. It really matters who your mayor is.

You know what? I think a lot of them have dreams of a certain amount of fame and want to be superstars. Yeah. Because even though you say you do it for the people, you have to be likable or have some type of personality to connect with those people. And you're cultivating your act. They have an act, too. One hundred percent. They have an act that's different than our act.

Our act is to make people laugh. Their act is to get people to think that they're the person who's got the solution. There's our leader. So their act is to lie. to think that they're the person who's got the solution. There's our leader. So their act is to lie. Yes. 100%. You know what, Joe? We're going through all of this shit.

And even with this last election, whoever you decide you like, appreciate, whatever. It was just a weird thing going on. It was a weird thing going on. And I was watching one of David Goggins' posts. And I have to say, David Goggins post and I have to say David Goggins I've never seen nobody have worse feet than my feet oh his feet are broken down but but is it he just got done running 240 miles I know he's gonna defend and I was gonna say the same thing Joe I know you're gonna say but

what has he done with his feet and what have you done with so I know you were gonna be like you know how many mountains those are fucking rock blisters yeah legitimate I knew he was going to say that and that's the point I was going to make it that's the point

I was going to make he said everybody there they are yeah Jesus Christ look at those big toes yeah those look like

like they've been through it that is hilarious those that thing on the left he showed me that if you cut out like ouch

the right foot's big toe damn that right foot's big toe if you showed me that if you cut out like ouch the right foot's big toe damn that right foot's big toe if you showed me a photo of that and didn't show me the rest of his foot I'd be like that's like a snail or something people would say

if you did that people would say that was my foot that's a Mars a Mars rock but like you said give me just zoom in on just the toe

don't show me anything but his right toe that's a rock from Mars. That's not real. But that's fucking a lot of miles, Joe. That's a brain of steel. That man has a brain of steel. That's a lot.

He knows how to force himself to do shit that hurts. This is what he was saying. And then whatever it is, one thing about him, he always has to remind you that he was a fat piece of shit. Yep. It doesn't like, that's got to be fat. Must be the number one motivating thing for him. Look at that toe.

God damn, son. So if you didn't see the rest of it, you'd be like, what is that? Oh, that's a rock somewhere. That's on another planet. It's a satellite photo. Oh, nigga, don't go there. Come on, son. That's a satellite photo. See, white people, y'all gross as shit, son. it's a satellite photo that's a satellite photo white people y'all gross

and shit that's a satellite you want to see blood and pus come out of that motherfucker i know your thing like jamie go closer but the point he made son he said he said everybody i i used to be a fat piece of shit yeah he was 300 pounds yeah i was 300 when i was a piece of shit everybody's looking for i need to answer with this person i need to answer that person but fuck it why don't you be the answer for yourself yeah that's that's i know people like well that's easy to say but why not find the answers you need in life through yourself right and through what you do your hard work and a type of person and type of human and type of father you are.

That's why people like him are so important because he'll tell you. People like him are so important because he'll tell you. He used to have no discipline. Right. So, like, look at him now. This is not something he was born with. Really quick, I got to interrupt. It's so funny you said discipline because I was having coffee with Dave today, and then he said that about you.

Because I was talking about I can't drink no shit with my antibiotics when I got shot and everything. And in some kind of way, we talked about you, and that's what he said. He said, I fucking love and respect his discipline. I do have some of that. Yeah, you got it. But I'm lazy too, man.

I force myself in all the stuff that I do. Yeah, but you get challenged by something, though. Something kicks you in the ass. Yeah, well, I don't like falling i don't like not doing what i'm supposed to do so i force myself to do what i'm supposed to do but it's never easy it's not easy you know it's like i always would think of disciplined people as being like uh there was no wavering they just got up and did it but you know that's the other thing Goggins tells you. He goes, sometimes I'll stare at my shoes for 30 motherfucking minutes

before I put them bitches on. Yeah, because you want to get rid of them ugly-ass feet, son. God damn, son. God damn. That's not what he's talking about, though. He's talking about discipline. I know this is the worst time, Joe. I did a pivot.

I opened up my own store, right? And after I just saw David Goggins' feet gotta help me get that look at that I know we sold candles no son you don't know about that right now yes yo son that is Joe put a little on your hand please put it on your hand it smells good that shit is vegan it's all natural is fire son hmm that's me can you watch what I say son watch what I say Nice Watch how long that shit lasts, yo Okay Feels good

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Yo, you laughing, son? You're laughing, but that shit is fire, son. It's good. I'm just laughing at the way you're- Erykah Badu put that shit on, right? I love it. Erykah Badu put that shit- Nah, that's you, son. Oh, thank you. Listen, Erykah badu put that shit on right i love it erica badu put that shirt no that's you son oh thank you listen every erica badu put that on son and she started rubbing

herself real real slow she hadn't been on the pandemic in a while and she was like she was like is it edible wow how high was she she really high are you disrespecting my product or you know but if i was thinking about taking cream and eating it up i'd probably have to be pretty high um certain people react to things differently joe it does smell like food though it smells like a delicious but wait to it but wait to it's like it's like food it is it's like food for your your body your body is eating right now joe and 100 100 milligrams of cbd yep look at that mongogo oil there it is right there CBD and hemp seed oil cocoa butter we got all the nuts look at this when did you start this

business how long ago I started I've been working on the formula for two years scroll down look at that I know that's why does it say too classy because that's the feeling ashy to classy that's the feeling that's the feeling you have look at that i like the sparkle the thing about it joe i've been ashy my whole life right you know that and for years people like you should do lotion you should do lotion i'm like man it's it's kind of corny i mean it could be a novelty could be funny yo ashy larry got his own lotion and i was like fuck that shit then i met with this young lady and she's like a chemist when it comes to this lotion and we started working on it and then when i when i finally tried what was the end product i was like this really work like it really works and it's good

it sounds like it's good for your muscles too if it's good it's good for everything your hands are going to thank me later i believe it what is the name of the website down there rollins that's where you get it okay stores I like it look at you entrepreneurial I did I'd never this is one thing that came out of this and not just for me Joe for a lot of people think about this a person that makes their money on the road a road a road comic. This happened to me. 95% of the money that I make is on the road. 95% of the shows I had are done.

So the only thing I have from what I usually make is that 5%, and that ain't enough for shit. And even though you can have some money stacked up or whatever, you still got to ask yourself, what the fuck is going to be the pivot? I don't think the pivot's going to come for a long time either in terms of us being able to get back to work. No, no, no. We're about to go out to work next summer.

Next summer, you think? Joe! Donnell. I'm not trying to say I don't believe in corona right now, but we are on the track of not just deadening shit, but being able to have it under control. We're about to get to the point where people are going to have more sense of security.

You know what I'm saying? Just think about the progress we've made in a year from when this shit first happened. You take a corona test, you had to wait like seven days. Think about it when we first hit. We had to like, oh my god, it was so scary, so scary. And then all these ventilators, ventilators,

ventilators. But if you know now, since when the pandemic started, yeah, we still losing people, but you don't hear that ventilator talk too much no more. Well,

ventilators are actually a bad idea now they realize. My point. You know what I'm saying? They figured out a lot of things. I did a whole podcast yesterday on COVID with Nicholas Christakis

from Yale. He a COVID nigga? He believes that COVID is a real problem. Yeah, for sure. You don't? I believe it, but I think it's controlled. A controllable.

It is controllable. I think it's a multifaceted problem, and I think we're only handling one aspect of it, which is keep people from working, keep people home, keep people away from people. No, you can't do that. You're treating people like they're children. This is what you got to do, Joe. You got to let them go outside. This is what you got to do. We're them go outside this is what you got to do we're gonna have more creative ways to

make money like yeah think about the comedy scene when we thought like the only place that tells jokes was on a stage and i was i had some resentment toward some of those outdoor events the parking lot shit first time i saw one of those parking lot shows with horns i was like never give a heckler an instrument to fuck your show up. I'm like, there's no way I'm going to. These motherfuckers don't like me. There's no way I'm going to be. Yeah, but people are happy to be out, man.

It's a different experience. That's the point I was making. It's like you could suppress people. You can call them down for a certain period of time, but after a while you're going to have to figure something out. My point I was going to make is they're only looking at one side of it. They're not looking at telling people how to be healthy. There's no talk about that.

Nigga! Yes. Nigga! That's what's up, right? Son, you a strong motherfucker. All your niggas are strong. Jamie might be the least strong out of everybody. Excuse me?

Stop with the dings. Shut your phone's ding off, man. Jamie, I'm not saying you're not strong, son. That's what you just said, though. But I didn't mean it like you're not strong. Or Red Band. Oh, yeah, I didn't forget about it. He's got a deadly three-pointer.

He's got a deadly three-pointer, and he runs. Jamie's in shape. That's black shape. That's black people shape. He does pull-ups. That's in shape. That's black shape. He does pull-ups. That's black people shape. He does pull-ups. That's black people shape. Run, play basketball, and pull-ups. And push-ups.

You do the jail workouts, sir. Jamie's actually in good shape. I know. I believe it. I'm sorry, Jamie. I didn't mean to offend you. I get it. He's back there.

He doesn't talk a lot. God damn. I know. Then when he finally talks, it's like, yo. When he finally talks. Jamie, show him that video of you dunking, shooting three-pointers. I never said he couldn't play basketball, son. Dude, it's impressive.

Like, Rain Man shit. No, no. No, he can't dunk. We're working on that. He's hitting three-pointer after three-pointer like Rain Man. There's something weird about him. Like, he might have a wire crossed in his brain. I didn't know he was nice.

What I'm saying is, to go back to your point joe is everybody's talking about the end of corona like don lemon man don lemon man don lemon son four years for four years straight he complained he was mad at don trump for four fucking years. Yeah. Four years. And I was like, man, if Donald Trump wins this election, Don Lemon is going to jump off the CNN building. Do you remember all their faces when he won last time? When he won in 2016? They were all so depressed. Yeah. They were all so depressed.

Jake Tapper and all those people on TV just like, motherfucker, I can't believe this. Yeah. But here's the thing, Joe. I'm like. I don't think you're supposed to do that if you're doing the news. Joe. If you're doing commentary, you can do that. I think if you're doing the news, you're supposed to say the news.

Joe. Let us figure it out. Joe. Don Al. Joe. That's why I do subscribe to the notion that fake news... Like, to be honest, it's all fake. It's...

All of them are fake. It's a lot of fake. this is what i did what i keep on telling people is like how i know you're upset but when you're like you you're it's all personal like everything hits you to the heart like well that's where it gets weird those two guys chris cuomo and don lemon both of them they do this editorializing and this like it's it's weird those two guys chris cuomo and don lemon both of them they do this editorializing and this like it's it's almost like they're doing a podcast and their opinion is all in it and their opinions in it but it's also it's on the other side too but it's scripted yeah and they're doing it on a news channel there's a lot going on there but that's why if you don't there

is another thing about the media if you didn't understand, whatever party you agree with, whatever, if you don't understand how easy it is to manipulate the media, Joe, it is so, so simple. To manipulate the media? To manipulate the media and the people that listen to it. That's what is successful. Manipulate people? What do you mean by manipulate the media? Like, you can create stories. You can create stories. You can make people. What do you mean by manipulate the media? You can create stories. You can create stories.

You can make things happen. I got shot, nigga. I see. I got shot in my motherfucking thumb. That's what I heard. And a lot of people don't believe me. Well, I believe you. I don't believe that you believe me, Joe.

That's what I believe, motherfucker. That's not convincing. But the point I'm making is like when i got when i first got shot joe i posted on instagram i didn't want to post it because i know that i didn't want to get no war in the streets going on people like going out looking for the person that shot me my thumb so i kept it to myself it didn't really bring it to me people's attention i posted one picture of me being in the hospital everybody's's like, you okay? You okay? They don't know what I got shot for, but they instantly got connected to that story.

Did you ever think of not posting it? I did. What made you decide to post it? The world needs to know. The world needs to know. Some of the gigs I had to postpone when I was locked, shot up, not locked up.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, I wasn't ready to share to the world then. I didn't know how my friends was going to take it. Okay. Then I wanted to be transparent

and be honest and let them know I got shot. That's what I did. You know? I see. You feel like, you still don't believe me. I do believe you.

I think you're just looking for a very specific reaction from me. I gave that up a long time ago believe me. I do believe you. I think you're just looking for a very specific reaction from me. I gave that up a long time ago, bro. I gave it up. I was like, whatever. That's what made me nervous the first time I came up. I'm like, what the fuck do I say? Say what you say, nigga.

Don't try to. All right, I'm here. You are here. But are you thinking about bailing out of LA yet? I think so. Yeah, a lot of people are. The reason that we've started feeling when we don't, well, you don't really need Hollywood like that. I don't think anybody needs it anymore.

Some people thought they did. You're right. Some people thought they did. They thought it was like you had to be here every night. I thought I needed to be there for a long time and then once what happened this situation then you realize oh what can i do you're like wait a minute i really can make my own community yes i can make my own community not only that you get connected to all the other communities like and all the other podcasts. We all help each other. We're all together.

I will say one thing white people do when it comes to podcasts, they support each other. Yeah, we support each other. But you know what, man? That's a new thing because in radio, it was the opposite. When they had radio,

they'd attack each other. Like I remember Opie and Anthony was always at war with Howard Stern and Jay Leno was always at war with all the other late night chalk show hosts. But did you think that made people engage? Do you think that made people engage with their platforms more? No, no, no.

They were just scared. Because they only had a... Like, back in the day when you were on television or the radio, you had a very specific time slot. You had 6 a.m. to 10 a.m., right? Day parts. And other people are also on at 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. And no one's recording anything. So you have to listen to it live.

I was a part of that. That's the same with television. I was a part of that. I don't know if you... I was a part of when Hot 97 was the biggest and Urban Radio in New York was the biggest. And then I was doing radio when Power 105 came and became a competitor.

They had no competition at first. It was just them. Then it got challenged and that would that's what made for interesting interesting shit between both of them is like yeah we talk shit about 97.1 97.5 then 105 then you start listening to both of them to see what shit they're talking you could do that if you're them or you could listen and if you like it tell people it's good that's what podcasters do like if i'm listening to your show i'll tell people donald rollins show is hilarious or listen

to this guy or listen to her or listen to what i'll tell people people i don't even fucking know man i tell people about podcasts that i listen to from npr or uh fucking radio lab what i always tell people because i'm interested in cool. I want to know about cool shit. And if I find cool shit, I want to tell other people about cool shit. I'm not worried. People don't think that's cool enough. Well, they're worried about if they talk about something else, it's going to take opinions. It's going to take attention away from them.

That's what's called famine thinking. You can never think that. Famine. Famine. Famine. Feast or famine. I'm a feast thinker. I always think there's enough for everybody.

Everybody come aboard. I want everybody to be be happy i want everybody to make money i want everybody to be famous i want everybody to be happy i want them to be fulfilled i don't want to be the man that that idea of being the man is to me is ridiculous that's your idea but on the outside when you do stuff like that for some people in their perception of you that's what makes you the man that's what makes you if you in their perception of you, that's what makes you the man. That's what makes you, if you're able to inspire and motivate, that's what makes you the man that you say you're not. I'm happy if that's the case, that people think that way. They know it.

I'm in a position to be generous, so I'm generous. They know it. They hold it against you, too. It feels good to be generous. They hold it against me. Who holds it against me? People that don't like me. They hold it against you that I have you on? No, people that don't like me, they'll say something. They hold it against me? Who holds it against me? People that don't like me? They hold it against you that I have you on?

No, people that don't like me, they'll say something. They hold it against me because you. Yeah, they like you. Oh, because like the RZA podcast? Jamie? Jamie? What are you talking about? No.

What are you talking about? People who don't like you don't know you. Yeah, but like some people, they told me they wasn't going to like you anymore because you liked me. Good luck. If that's how crazy you are. They said they wasn't going to like you because you didn't. But that's ridiculous. Anybody who thinks like that is out of their fucking mind.

They was saying shit like this, and I don't read the comments, Joe. They was saying shit like this. They was saying shit like, well, Joe was right up to this point. They said shit like this. They said shit like, well, Joe was right up to this point. Yo, they like, you had a track record. Like, yeah, I believe everything's said until he got loud mouth up there. Here's the thing.

I don't think anybody will ever understand the camaraderie that we all have. Right. That comics have. It's a different world. But the podcast world is totally different. Y'all motherfuckers. Yo, y'all motherfuckers.'s just like but man the podcast world is so dope and the podcast world was ready for the pandemic yeah the podcast people was like

this what pandemic i get to spend more time with my kids i get to spend more time with my kids and you get to spend more time doing podcasts because everybody's free even if you have to do a stupid zoom podcast you're still spending more time doing podcasts. Yeah, but it's like you figured out. They knew it was going to happen before it fucking happened. I came in right at the right time. I don't think they knew it was going to happen before it happened, but I think they got lucky. They got lucky. Look, man, back when I was just dependent upon Hollywood and gigs, I'd be fucked right now.

I'd have no income coming in. But saw the future too son you i said this to you before like when you hear like joe roger you hear about this spotify deal and you hear about all this type of blah blah and then you what you don't understand like i said joe everybody wants to be you right now but nobody wants to be you when people were saying no and equipment was breaking down and we didn't know if we was going to do it. You know? The thing is, I didn't think about it that way.

I didn't think like, I know this is going to blow up. I thought, I like doing this. I'm going to keep doing this. So you just continue to have fun with it. I just do what I like. Right. All the shit that I do, if you think about it, I just do what I like. Whether it's stand-up comedy or whether it's UFC commentary or whether it's doing a podcast, I do what I like.

I do what I like. I don't think, oh, if I do this, it's going to be huge. I just do what I like. That's the most empowering thing that is so hard. That's the most empowering thing that is so hard for people to feel comfortable enough to do it. It's hard, yeah. Because to turn it into, this motherfucker says,

fuck bitches all the time. You know what I'm saying? They haven't figured out a way to get a W-9 or anything for it. People get, they get nervous about the future too. You gotta have enough confidence in yourself to take chances.

Do you think that there are a lot of pussies out here? There's a lot of pussies out here. Is our country pussy? Our country has a lot of pussies out here? There's a lot of pussies out here. Is our country pussy? Our country has a lot of pussy in it because it's too easy to get by and it's human nature to become soft when things are easy.

And when you're in any sign of any kind of struggle whatsoever, that's when the real pussies emerge because they can't handle any pressure. Or they go. Or they leave. You see them. You see how bad they are because they can't handle any pressure. Or they go. Or they leave. You see how bad they are because they fall apart. Any adversity at all.

This is beyond that now. It's not beyond that now, Joe. The reason why it's beyond that, this is a personality trait or just as a side of, not to say that I'm a fan of Donald Trump or anything, but it was certain things that I could understand where the thought comes from. But how you articulate to people is all fucked up. The way you articulate to people is terrible at it.

Certain people need filters. Certain people need like Kanye West needs interpreter. You know what he needed? He needed a coach because someone coached him for that second Biden debate. If you watch that second Biden debate, he was calm and cool, let Biden work himself up and stammer and lie about shit. And he had still attacked him, but he attacked him in a different way.

The first time he did it, he was obnoxious. He kept talking over him. He didn't let him talk. He was ridiculous. Everybody wanted to shut his mic off. But then someone must have coached him for this, or he realized himself to take a different approach. I'm going to tell you something different. approach i'm gonna tell you something different i'm gonna tell you something different

whatever numbers you say the loser of this election still won breaking the record i know isn't that crazy second place still was second place would be first place any any other time in history it would have shitted on everything that's nuts it shows everybody realize it's important to find when you when you realize that a guy like Donald Trump can become president, you realize, oh my God, it's actually important to vote.

Yo, bruh, you know, it has to, until you see those numbers, yo, it was like, it was crazy.

It was like, in certain places, separated by 5,000 votes. I know. 10,000 votes. Yeah, it was tight. And you could say, you could make, here's the thing, you could make an argument, it could have went I know. 10,000 votes. Yeah, it was tight. And you could say,

you could make an argument. It could have went either way. Here's the situation. Man, Donald Trump let it be known that he didn't give a fuck about anybody but his base. Yeah, pretty much.

That's it. And I'm not saying, if it's a numbers game, understand that. There's a certain amount of people that will help you get elected. There's a certain amount of people. That's why you have strategists and shit. They'll be like, if we do this, we get these RoboCars here and everything. You know, it's the science of that. There's certain people that can help you get there.

Well, if he... But he never made no... If he softened his approach up, I think the base would not have appreciated it. That's the numbers. It's like love him or hate him. It's very polarizing. To hate him works for a situation.

Whereas Biden, I don't think people love Biden. Something has to be... I don't think they dislike him. But they hate Trump. The people that voted for Biden hate Trump. Most of them. Or just feel like we just can't do this anymore. The people that voted for Biden hate Trump.

But they're not excited about him the way they're excited about Obama or excited about Clinton or excited about a million other presidents in the past. Not a million. Yeah, but for the most part, every time it switches over, it's because somebody goes totally opposite of what was going on. Yeah, there's a little bit of that. But it's usually bullshit. It's bullshit, man. You got these old stories.

These old stories that they're repeating over and over again. Biden is filling up his cabinet with all these billionaire hedge fund people's, like, not hedge fund people, but like environment, like the guy that is involved in environmental, he just hired some guy that people are upset about. I don't know what color he is. I was reading about the environmental advisor.

That's important to me. Because he worked for a fucking oil company. The black part is important to me. An environmental advisor was taking money from fossil fuel companies. And they're like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. This guy has ties to fossil fuels. And you're doing something with him that involves the environment. There could be a conflict of interest.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. If he's a black guy. Okay. Yeah, if he's a black guy. We'll find out right now. I bet they probably. Listen, this is. I think they're probably going to hire a lot of Republicans

That's what they did they already started They're going to hire a lot of people That want to In their defense They probably think some radical Things need to be done to kick start The economy right now I agree but I don't know how

They're going to be able to work together I think they're all dirty, bro. They all work together. Here it goes. Biden just appointed his climate movement liaison. Black man! Black man! Yes!

Told you, son! It's a fossil fuel industry ally. Black! Yeah. There he is. Black! Look at black as shit. That's all I need, Joe.

There you go. He raked in big money from fossil fuel industry while waiting to help oil and gas companies. Or voting, rather, to help oil and gas companies. Look how he's greeting him. It's different. Look, he's giving him knuckles. Hey, fella. My motherfucker.

There's a video of Lindsey Graham and Kamala Harris fist bumping each other. It's adorable. Kamala Harris. Reaching across the aisle. That was a good move. He's walking by, fist bumps her. Well, she's the only good move. She's strong.

You know, she was a district attorney. She got some questionable arrests on her. There's some shit that she did imprisoning people and keeping them in prison to use them to fight wildfires and shit. In my community, I've heard people talk about her and everything. You have trust in her. You believe in her. shit but i uh in my community i've heard people talk about her and everything like what no she uh you you you have trust in her you believe in her what i did believe in was when she got elected to be the first female vice president first black black president within a couple of days the commercials i've seen on different urban platforms or just period it's been you see a little black

girl right looking up to something you know we see that shadow with her standing there and the little black girls in the shadow black girls in shadow but the little girls are just showing it's like this you could be that they feel yeah they feel black girl joy they see something that's she also you know she didn't and I know she put she she put just but she didn't do just bad things she did a lot of good things she prosecuted a lot of child sex predators a lot of pieces of shit a lot of bad people she wasn't just i thought the situations where people should have been let out of jail and weren't but there's also like this is the thing that we have to realize when it comes to district attorneys and just attorneys and prosecutors and defense attorneys in general

they're trying to win a game and it gets dirty when i tell you what they're trying to prosecute people you haven't yet but you i'm sure you will sorry but when someone you're trying to prosecute people or defend people the people defend people they know are fucking guilty and they'll keep shit from the prosecution even though they know they're defending a guilty person they do it all the time so people prosecute people that they're not sure are guilty. And they'll pretend they're sure that that person's guilty because they want to win. And they'll withhold information that could potentially exonerate that person because they're playing a game.

When you let people play a game, anytime you let people play a game, and someone's trying to win, they cheat. They try to figure out a way to do better than you with with influence by withholding things by holding things back they know this judge they're tight with this lawyer right they try to win a game you've made it a game so you got a prosecutor and you got a defense attorney so you got two competing forces you're always gonna have lies 100 because people play games so that was the business she's in her saying that's her business that's her business and they are a business of words like you're saying there's no business of laws she

particularly laws but laws are the word how do i win with these words right here right no matter what you think how do i win with this come on kamala you know that's not right we're not talking about right we're talking about what we could you know that's not right we're not talking about right we're talking about what we could prove and that's what law is all about right well that is if you are a defense attorney that's your job is to protect somebody um and try to get them off even if they might be guilty and if you're a prosecutor your job is to prosecute somebody you're not your job is not to go hey we might be wrong your job is not to go hey let's hold but the shady shit is when you don't play by the rules and you withhold information or uh or withhold evidence

and people have done that in the past and that's when things get real squirrely because like okay now you're not playing the game you're using your unfair advantage but nothing surprises you no no it doesn't surprise me but what i'm saying is it doesn't make a person all bad right like she's not all bad. She's done a lot of very good things. I read an article about all the different things she did, including the different things that she did that a lot of people thought were bad, like threatening moms.

Threatening moms with they would go to jail if their son was truant. But it turns out no one ever went to jail. It was a threat, and obviously it's terrifying to be a single mom and think you might get put in jail because your son is just running around and doesn't show up at school because you work two jobs try to put food on the table but nobody ever actually did get arrested and got went to jail yeah because it's gonna be too hard to prove that shit man and some people and in some cases some people are and i don't know if this was because some people are too lazy in certain situations too well i'm saying saying it's not a good idea to threaten a mother

because she's a single mom trying to get by and her son is not going to school. It's not good to threaten her with jail time. But sometimes people make decisions. Yeah, sometimes people make decisions, like drastic decisions like that. And maybe at the time they had a perspective that's different than the perspective that they have now.

It's called evolution. I want everybody to have, look, I want them to have a clean slate biden and harris are in there now i think clean slate forget about but let's see what can happen what they can do the best thing the people they put into office all the cabinet let's give them a chance we want them to do well this is what was so fucked up about trump being in office i don't think people wanted him to be well exactly so many people hated him. They really would rather the country do bad under him. Because if the country was

killing it under him, he's like, look, it's killing it. I'm the best. I told you. Then everybody's like, fuck! At least maybe, please, even Trump supporters, go into this one with a different attitude. Let's all together say we want the best for Americaica what's it what's

done is done the election's over maybe you were a tulsi gabbard fan like myself maybe you like bernie sanders like myself but maybe you like fucking jim bush yang gang i love yang gang i love andrew yang he's a he's an awesome guy i love a lot of his ideas but for now we know where it is it's biden and harris let's let's make it man joe the trump trump trumper you got different level trumpers well there's a lot of people that think there's some mad as a that don't want to hear son part of the problem is he's telling them that it's a rigged election he's telling them that's what's so up but part of the problem is all elections have some corruption they just fucking do they've been

around for not enough for you to say nigga when you leave it nigga i don't think there's any keeping secrets and shit joe well mike baker who used to be in the cia was on mike baker or your baker mike his name is mike baker he was in the cia and he came on the podcast recently he was in the CIA and he came on the podcast recently he was telling me that even if they did overturn it even if they did rather like find corruption the amount of votes you're talking about in most these states it's not enough not nearly enough it would have to be crazy corrupt yeah like he's talking these muffins about five or six people bro yeah that's the petty no no it's not five or six people they've got a there's the petty shit. No, no, it's not five or six people. Man, every time they use six... I think they uncovered...

They uncovered two different things today in, I want to say it's Michigan, where they found a memory card that had more votes for Trump than Biden, but it still was close. It was like 1,000 for Biden and 1,000, a few hundred

for Trump, like four or five hundred for Trump, like $400 or $500 for Trump. Where'd he get the memory card from, son? I do not know. Come on, Joe. I think there's a lot of unorganization. That nigga could have brought up any memory card. So a motherfucker just gave you a memory card? Well, someone who's counting votes got the memory card from the machines.

Who told you that story? This is in the news. Which news outlet? It was in three or four different ones that I saw. And they all said the same thing? Well, they all said that there was a memory card that was discovered, and they showed the counts in the memory card. But they've also found other ballots that didn't get counted yet. There's just a lot of disarray. You're dealing with human beings that are counting millions of votes.

Millions in the percentage. Millions, and they're counting a lot of them just paper. They're getting mail, and they're opening it up, and they have to find out. This is what up and they have to find out what i didn't understand this is what i understand joe this was so funny it kind of like backfired right that the mail-in votes is what killed trump that's what they're saying yes for the most part and the funny thing about it trump has the type of following that he literally could tell him to do anything they're going to do it he told motherfuckers not to mail in. Yeah. Well, he wanted to make a point, come in in person.

Well, this is the point. How do you make a joke? Answer this question. How do you make that point? Understand making that point when you're not in the middle of a fucking pandemic. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, that would have been a great argument in 16. Especially for old folks, right?

For anybody that wants to participate, but the only thing that would stop them is if they're gonna go outside and risk their lives right so you're not thinking to give that person opportunity to be a part of it yeah and that's the part that kind of fucked it up well I don't know if he definitely wanted people to vote in person but did he ever encourage people to vote by mail as well or was no he was always saying that mail was gonna get a fraud son right oh shit was crowds. I'm like, nigga, somebody's Secret Service. Break the secret.

Tell this motherfucker that the corona is out here. He caught it. He knows it was out there. This nigga caught it and gave all the Secret Service it. Secret Service can't say nothing because they're Secret Service. They got to keep it a secret. I'm sure they're young and healthy too.

They probably shook it off pretty easy. They probably got the same medicine he got, you know? The medicine is probably, a lot of that medicine is called your immune system

being up to par. As much as like, everybody's talking about this shit, it's the lazy route. No one wants to say. There's a little bit of that, but they also gave him

a bunch of experimental shit. They gave him this antibody blood transfusion medication they gave him uh what was it called regeneron is that what it's called jamie they gave him uh some other uh i don't know if it's experimental or if it's like recent recently been released they gave him that that medication they gave him a steroid they gave him a bunch of different things all at once so he got a cocktail shit that made him feel great not only that's how much is that cocktail that's not no easy cocktail it's not cheap and he wants that to be able to be given to everybody but I

don't know if that's feasible at the moment like they got to make the money doses well it's not just to make the money, just to make the doses. Say if they have all that medication and all that blood antibody medication and all this different stuff they're going to give him, the steroids, to make that for 300 million people, that's so many people. So if everybody gets sick, you have a dose. We have one dose for every human being in this country. Even if you have one dose for half the people.

You could get a ton of your money, right? You would need 300 million vials of this shit. That's so much. You're not going to need all of those. And probably more than that because you're probably in multiple vials per person. They wouldn't even make that number for everybody to get one. They would make that number. That number is going to be broken down by, okay, what's the criteria to get this?

You know what I'm saying? Well, also, it would be how many people do we really want to get it to? Because how many people are going to be sick at any one given time? It's probably never going to be more than 25% of the population, even if it's high. But even if it comes out, Joe, motherfuckers, I'm telling you, certain motherfuckers are not taking that vaccine for whatever reason. Yeah, I think you're right. The black community is fucked. Niggas ain't fucked with no vaccine until it's like an iPhone, son.

You need the third one. No black person is going to take it. I think there's a lot of people that are not going to take it, but I think what they think is herd immunity. Once we get to 50% of the people that took it, the virus will probably die off. I think it's going to be in that neighborhood of 50% of the people that took it the virus will probably die off i think it's going to be in that neighborhood of 50 of the people that had it if they if if either 50 of the people either have had covid or have the vaccine for covid they think we can hit herd immunity and mostly die off but it could always kick back in again that's what they're worried about that it's going to be like the common cold or the flu every year would you take a vaccine yeah for sure if it works yeah if it's

been proven that it works and and I talk to doctors, and they explain what the science is and how it works, and then I talk to people that have taken it, and they say, you know, what the side effects are, because with the COVID vaccine, I think the side effects are you feel like shit for a couple days. Who can't deal with feeling like shit for a couple days? How happy are you when you can't lose two days?

Yeah. Yeah, I would definitely do it if I thought it was safe. I don't know enough about it right now to say that I think, I mean, that was one of the things Nicholas Christakis was talking about yesterday. He was talking about the potential dangers for the vaccine. And I appreciate that he brought that up because it's such a sensitive area for people. They think that if you think there's a danger in any kind of vaccine, you're some sort of anti-vaxxer. No, there's a potential for danger of any medication when you're dealing with mass numbers of human beings if you have 300 million people and you give them aspirin one you know i don't know what percentage but some people are

going to die from aspirin or they're going to get really sick from aspirin it's the same with everything substances you put in people's bodies everybody reacts differently people die from fucking brazil nuts you know there's something yeah but them motherfuckers want to waste time Everything. Substances you put in people's bodies. Everybody reacts differently. People die from fucking Brazil nuts. You know, there's something to do. Yeah, but them motherfuckers want to waste time with these home remedies and shit. Man, them home remedies, I mean, they're cool for some people. But eventually, man, you're going to have to talk to somebody. Yeah, for sure.

If you got a real disease. You know, the people that want to cure, like, cancer by not going to a doctor. They're like, whoa. They can fix it now. now like there's a lot of cancers not all of them of course but there's a lot of can't you're way better off having cancer now with modern medicine than you were having it 15 20 years ago that said all that remedy all that like the best remedy for all this besides the medicine if you actually get sick so fucking take care of yourself right that's what I'm hoping people get out of this more people take care of themselves yeah I don't understand it's convenient during this time I don't

understand how you could ignore that because it's convenient as long as you're not sick you don't think you're gonna get sick right you stay home if you don't have to go anywhere you just stay home and a lot of people just they just stop exercising and they stop eating well they stop drinking water and they fuck their body up and then if something does you don't realize like how much of a difference it makes and being healthy and not being healthy when something hits you a virus hits your cold hits you you see like when when i got shot son there you go i had to get the iv i had to get the fucking The IV antibiotics

Well you guys get IVs all the time You're always doing Vitamin IVs on tour VitaFlow VitaFlow It's a company That's such a good move It is

You did it too When we did that That was the first time I'd ever done that Well really Vitamin IV yeah I mean maybe I'd done one Once before

You was on it hard Oh I'm on it hard now Yo you had everything open You was like Give me one right here Half your, I'm on it hard now. Yo, you had everything open. You was like, give me one right here. You had half your ass out. I'm like, what you got? She gave me a B12 shot in my ass.

And I saw your ass. I was sitting right there. I'm like, I was like, nigga, take that shit across the street. He had his fucking stomach out and his ass out. I was like. I'm not scared. I know you're not. It was like, wah, wah, wah.

Yeah, well, the glutathione was amazing. That stuff is great. The vitamin drip was amazing. We started getting them every week. We slacked off, though, once we got here to Texas. We haven't been doing it in Texas. Man, that motherfucker. I'm telling you, when I did Yellow Springs this summer,

that was probably one of the things that um made that uh experience so amazing is that we were living in our own bubble and playing by our own rules and everybody was having a good time and it was all productive yeah you know it worked it worked you guys put on a lot of shows adult summer camps yeah it was like the were one thing. But the thing that was great for me was just the whole sense of community. You know what I'm saying? Like, we would have potlucks and shit, and then I would have all the housewives of Yellow Springs, like, ascend. Yo, them motherfuckers out there, them motherfucking Yellow Springs chicks, wives, they won't get upset with anything but a casserole dish, son. Yellow Spring chicks, wives, they won't get upset with anything but a casserole dish, son.

Like, they was looking for a Rachel Ray casserole dish I had for like a week. They was stalking where I was living and everything. But the sense of community, man, it's like, it's one coffee shop, Dino's, everybody go there. It's one grocery store. It's just one of everything. That's nice. And it was so simple. Well, that's better, really. that's nice and it was so simple well that's better really then this this there's real good things about cities but the thing that's missing is that

camaraderie that sense of community nature yeah city slickers they were calling me a city slicker i saw the videos of you in the river you guys yo joe it was the whitest, greatest adventure of the summer. I became the River Nigga, right? That's the original name. I'm telling you the truth, son. Look at you. You look so peaceful. I am at peace, son.

Listen, Joe. What does it say on the quote there? Forever mood. River bitches love the River Ninja. They do, son. Bitches love me out there, son. All them earthy bitches that got quartz and rocks

and shit, son. Yo, I'm talking about bitches, farmers, market bitches out there like me. I understand what you're saying. They love me. Like, women with rescue dogs. That's a great picture, man.

Jamie, get that. Look how peaceful I was, son. I was a River Ninja. I had to change the name, Joe. Get that picture framed. I need that picture. Letie get look how peaceful i was son i was a river nigga i had to change the name get that picture framed i need that picture let's uh let's get that picture printed on on steel yo who took the photograph um federico federico did i tag him yeah where's various get a hold of federico we need that picture in the studio he's such a talented fucking producer and everything. Beautiful. But that would be a great picture to frame in here.

Yo, I fell in love. Joe. People think it's a joke. The river. It's nature. Are you going to let me describe me? Yeah, I'm going to let you. First name I came up with, Joe, it was River Nigger, right? And I like that for the streets, right?

But people's like, I don't know if we can put that on T-shirts. They're looking at it from a market brand point, right? And I like that for the streets, right? But people's like, I don't know if we can put that on t-shirts. They're looking at it from a Marky Brandity point, right? And I was like, okay, Ninja. You know what I mean? But he's inspired by the River Nigger. But Ninja's for TV. There's many layers to the story. Many layers to it. Do you fish? I fish.

Did you go fishing at all when you guys were down there? I didn't get a chance to go fishing there, but this was me at a river in Georgia, son. Changes your mind, right? It's everything, son. Changes your mind. When you're by a waterfall, you're like, oh. There's something about these natural things like mountains or oceans.

Nature, nigga. Nature, nigga. Nature. Nature free as shit, son. Yep. It's good for you. Look at me, son. Let me tell you.

I know exactly. They say, when did I turn into a river nigga? Right? They said, when did I turn? When do I remember to change? Right? It was when. Look at that waterfall, man.

That's crazy. Yo, let me tell you the story, son. So when we were out there, Chappelle's wife used to make these events. Hey, it's family walk day. I'm like, man, fuck that. I'm from the streets. I'm not doing all that stupid shit. She had all these days, like, every day had a goddamn adventure or a start.

What's today? You got to look at a little brochure and shit. And then one day she did one and was kayaking. Right? And I went on this kayak. It was me and my man Patrick. He's a Yellow Spring native. And we were going down the river. Mad river. I had a kayak. He had a kayak. It was me and my man Patrick. He's a Yellow Spring native. We were going down the river, mad river.

I had a kayak. He had a kayak. We were smoking a joint. We just hear nature. Just straight nature. Then he said, you know what this reminds me of? This reminds me of when I was younger building ramps, jumping ramps

on my bike and me fishing for crawdads with my dad when I was younger building ramps, jumping ramps on my bike, and me fishing for crawdads with my dad. And I was like, nigga, this reminds me of looking for my dad. His stories, the two stories were totally opposite. It represented one thing for him, memories he had with his dad. For me, it represented the memories I didn't have with my dad and the memories I wanted to create with my son. You know what I'm saying? When I was out there, Joe, all I think was like,

I got to bring this little motherfucker to the river. He's got to be out here. He's got friends out there. And my son came out there, and the summer was beautiful. But one thing was missing, no matter how you're celebrating in life, right? If you're not sharing it with your family, it feels weird. Yeah, for sure. You know, it feels like oh man i

don't even know if it's fair for me to have this much fun and although how great the summer was going when he came out he was hanging with me on the river and shit man it was like the best shit ever son we were skipping jamie you're not a skip rocks of course do you not a skip yeah it's in the wrist right i was I was in the Boy Scouts. Yo, don't say you're in the Boy Scouts today, son. Why? They might have played with your booty holes, son. Yo, there's a lot of them, man.

Don't tell me. Don't be proud of the Boy Scouts. Pick another division, son, not the Boy Scouts. Nothing ever happened to my booty hole. I had a great time. I hung out with a bunch of criminals. That's what you do in the Boy Scouts were skipping rocks like yeah yeah i didn't know it was that much precision it depends on the rock like you really want a nice flat rock nice you get a flat rock

you could do some wild shit when we were going out every day tal Talib Kweli, right? He thinks he's a river nigga, right? He told us one day, I could skip any rock. You know what type of... He said no matter how big it is, I could skip any rock. That doesn't seem likely. That's the fucking Brooklyn cockiness he had, right? Yeah. It was just like...

It was like... The next time we went, he wants to challenge me in rock skipping again this time this motherfucker was pulling rocks out of his shorts he had rocks with him already he prepared joe he came massive rocks he came with all perfect flat river rocks oh that's crazy he didn't bend over is there a world championship of uh rock skipping it seems like people would take it super seriously. I think it would. I think it's something to think. I'm pretty sure it's done somewhere. I never thought about it to this moment,

but I'm sure there's got to be a competition. A rock skipping competition. And they got groupie bitches? Like the girls who, it's off-season for bowling, so they go after rock skippers. Yeah, we heard you had a tin skipper last week. A tin skipper could get you a blowjob

sir that's gonna get you some wop if you're looking for wop do a tin skipper sir you know what wop is right i do who educated you to it because i don't think no disrespect to your hip-hop or whatever i don't someone introduced you to wop um i don't know it might have been jamie was it you? Could be. Yeah, because of the Ben Shapiro video. Oh, that's right. That's right.

That's right. Yeah. Which was it? Because Ben Shapiro was like, you know when some people self-own, they don't realize they're self-owning? Right. When the song's about wet-ass pussies, like, well, that sounds like a gynecological condition i would and and people are like what but that's not the point i know the point is but i understand that that's like that's an that's i understand this point that's an abnormal amount of moisture yes to be able to come up with a whole song about it it's like

it's a level what do you think would happen if you came out with a song called Hard Ass Dick? I want to do it. It would not be received that well. With as minimal controversy as Wet Ass Pussy. Certain songs got to be answers. Right. Like answers to a song. To Wet Ass Pussy's Hard Ass Dick.

K. Michelle had a song, You Can't Change a Man, right? And I flipped it and did a song called you can't raise a you can't save a that was the name of the song can't save a do you remember when they used to have songs and then they would have answer songs and then like there's been a bunch of those right where they would someone would have a song and then someone like someone would have a response song to that like. Like Scrubs. Yes. Scrubs was, then they had another one.

It was, I can't remember, but I know you said it. Wasn't I Saw You Standing in the Rain? Wasn't there one of those? Orange Juice Jones. Wasn't there an answer song to that? If I know any answer to that, I just immediately told how old I am. To know Orange Juice Jones and how cool he was Orange Juice Jones was the shit

that song was the best at the time that was an original kind of song there never been a song that told the whole story of getting done wrong like that especially it didn't tell in the rain right like everybody knows that story but you followed this couple

in the rain and then at the end when he chopped up yeah that's like go bitch get out of here he had this credit cards and everything yeah that was a song that made people happy joe i came over here i'm not selling but you got more stuff yeah look you look. You remember this, right? Remember my black ash, right? Yes. All right, here.

That's for re-up. Thank you. Re-up. We kept the other one in California because we weren't sure if we were going to be going back and forth. Yeah, you got that one. Look at this one right here. There's some hoes in this house candle. That's for a holiday, Joe.

It's a ho, ho, ho. Hoes. Not like H-O-E. There's some hoes in this house candle. That's a funny name for a candle joe because i fell in love with yellow spring that's one of my top sellers oh yellow spring candle from the streets to the creeks from the hood to the woods from horse to oars from adidas to tivas son i got a whole store boom and this for the white chicks out there because i got a lot of white bitches out there now. Okay, Karen Candle. Imagine if your name was Karen and you were fine for like 30 years.

Joe, there's more. Look at this, son. That's a handbag, son. I feel like all of a sudden we turn into the Home Shopping Network. That's what I wanted to avoid, Joe. But at the same time, I opened up an online store, son, and it's doing well. Okay. Do you have a website that we could just put up on screen instead of bringing all these objects out one after another?

Joe. You call it... No, listen. Oh, you have like a little thing. You can scan with the phone. You call them objects. I don't call it objects. Products? Man, give me my candle back, man. What is it if it's not a product? No, just if you don't want

them, Joe, give them back. I do. You gonna use them? I'll give them back. I do. You going to use them? I'll definitely use them. All right. I like candles. Those are good, too. And they're soy, too. They're soy?

Yeah, and they're hand-poured in the USA. You can have them back. I don't do anything with soy. It's a candle, man. Don't disrespect that. People want that. People get mad at soy. Soy is like a political fruit or a vegetable

is it yeah yeah yeah people call you a soy boy if you're a republican people call uh weak men soy boys that's like a it's an insult i never knew that soy is one of the rare foods that's actually attached to being a bitch that's a pussy food yeah like if you're if you're a guy who's really into soy and this is not my perspective this is just i just think it's a fucking it's a pussy food yeah like if you're if you're a guy who's really into soy and this is not my perspective this is just i just think it's a fucking it's a plant it doesn't matter to me right it's uh isn't that edamame isn't that soy like when you have edamame at a japanese restaurant isn't it soy yes yeah isn't that is that the case jamie the first time i ever tried edamame i was so ghetto you eat the whole thing?

Yeah. And I was like, my throat was killing me, son. The best part is the outside. I didn't know anything about it. They put all the delicious salt and everything on the outside. The sea salt. Yeah, some sea salt. If you had a bowl of just edamame.

It takes away from it. You wouldn't even want it. It's the whole process. It's the whole process of ripping a sleeve. Edamame beans are whole, immature soybeans, sometimes referred to as vegetable-type soybeans. They're green and different color from regular soybeans, which are typically light brown, tan, or beige.

Yeah, so it's the soy. I like edamame. I don't mind soy, but a lot of people think of soy as being like bitch food. I never knew that. I thought it was a healthy. I mean, I knew it was not the most masculine food food but i thought it was like you stepped your game up when you enter the edamame lane it's like oh shit this motherfucker eat edamame now i think there's a reason i think soy lowers your testosterone i think there's like oh yeah yeah soy isoflavones

can produce estrogen-like activity in the body, mimicking the effects of natural estrogen. Yeah. But I think you have to- You can grow titties off of soy? Not quite, but it might feminize you. It might feminize you. Fuck soy, man. Plants affect your hormone production.

Do you know they actually develop testosterone, like synthetic testosterone, from wild yams. Like plants, yeah. From wild yams? plants yeah from wild wild yams yeah that's how they that's how uh they develop some um artificial testosterone or exogenous testosterone i would think that that would be part of the whole sightless um cialis and blue pill era that's a different thing though that's just blood flow that's nitrous oxide So why is nobody promoting wild yams? Not nitrous oxide. Nitrous, what is it? Nitric. Nitric oxide.

That's like NO Explode, all those pump things you do when you want to get jacked when you're lifting weights. A lot of those supplements, they mimic the same sort of effect, just not to the same degree as like finasteride, like Viagra and cialis and shit like that but they don't they don't make you have more testosterone with these like soybeans and i think i think really for it to affect your hormones i think it's just like it can it's a fat it's a possibility like chemically but in order to actually do it i think you'd have to eat some fucking preposterous number of soybeans i don't think it's like something people really have to worry about it no i don't think it's anything anybody really has to worry about but i think it's just a stereotype i didn't even know that the thing for me i didn't even know the stereotype yeah they call people soy boys i didn't know that i thought

it was like uh like you you're evolving as a foodie you know like the first time i had i was like oh shit y'all niggas don't know about the edamame because I was introducing somebody else to it but I didn't know that it symbolized being a pussy it doesn't it's silly it's people are silly yeah yeah I don't I may taste good if they do it right put a little chili powder and salt on the outside I like it with just sea salt I like it sea salt too I'm working at a stadium Joe Are you really? What are you doing? RFK Stadium Where's that? In Washington D.C.

When are you doing that? Thanksgiving weekend Oh shit It's not the stadium It's the parking lot right? You're doing like an outdoor show I'm doing an outdoor show Just like the ones that Bert's been doing

Yeah but it's not at that level Yeah I talked to Bert about that Shout out to Bert And shout out to the camera Bert is the guy who started it all off. People aren't giving him enough credit. He's the OG of drive-thru shows. Yeah.

Burt was the guy. It fit right into his whole shit. He never stopped touring. Burt toured through the entire pandemic doing drive-thrus. And I was saying to myself, is this like a throwback Thursday or whatever? He was like this. And then the name of, what was the summer, what was the name of the tour? Hot Summer Nights? Hot Summer Tour?

Hot Summer Nights. I'm like, this motherfucker. But he created a bubble, and he fucking did it. Created a bubble, stayed drunk the entire summer. And enjoyed it. Had a good time. I'm doing RFK Stadium. It's the original stadium for the Washington Redskins.

The Washington Redskins used to do that. Beautiful. But for nine years, that was my traditional show at the DC Improv. I would do Thanksgiving weekend. It was a good time for me because I got to see my family. I got to work. That's a great club, too. It's a great club.

That DC Improv is one of the 10 greatest clubs in the country. And it's been probably the most consistent for 25 years. So good. It's just the perfect size. Perfect. Everything about it's perfect. And they get every year solid. there for 25 years so good it's just the perfect size perfect everything about it's perfect and they get every year solid it's i don't even know that a comic can do bad in terms of ticket sales

there everybody seems to do well at least the line that they have they book good lineups like when the clubs got that much prestige they've been around that there's certain clubs like comedy works where people just trust them you know uh there's a bunch of helium in philly people just trust them. This is gonna be a good show. They're not gonna book any scrubs. And that's how the DC improv has felt. They have developed a community.

And I, for nine years, I saw my son from, the first time I took him up, it was just him in my arms. And then the next time he was kind of like crawling. Then next time he was walking. Then he walked to the stage. I had like four years of pictures of his growth there and then because of the pandemic i thought the weekend was gone i'm like damn that blows the tradition yeah and then they piv they made a pivot from the dc improv to partnering up with um dc pull up or whatever it is and they're doing the

fucking outside that's beautiful i like that people are adapting that's one of the things you were saying like you started this business and burt started doing things outside and tom segura is doing like these pay-per-view shows tom segura and burt kreischer are doing these and and sometimes christina they switch up back and forth right they're doing these crazy live shows i saw they the shit that he sent me i mean I'll show it to you What do you mean? After the show The things that they can See during these live shows It's 100% uncensored Right

Because it's pay per view So they don't have to worry about YouTube They don't have to worry about It's whatever They are showing The most fucked up videos I have ever seen in my life In my life

Really? In my life Like he He sent me three things yesterday that changed my idea of what's possible oh my god yeah you're gonna do it do one of his shows yeah um i would certainly do it if we were in town together and he's you know tom's talking about moving here if he moves here everybody niggas moving out here yeah well we got the whole squad coming back here we're gonna open up a club here i'm down son come on down it's better here. We're going to open up a club here. I'm down, son.

Come on down. It's better here. You don't have to pay taxes for the state. People are nicer. The barbecue's off the hook. On the streets, they said,

Joe ain't stupid, son. The streets said, that nigga said, I'm getting the fuck up out of here, son. Well, I saw the writing on the wall. I'm like,

they're not going to open up the clubs. If you don't have a comedy club open, I can't stay. If the comedy store was open, there would be no reason for me on the wall. I'm like, they're not going to open up the clubs. If you don't have a comedy club open, I can't stay. If the comedy store was open, there would be no reason for me to leave LA. I know. But then on the flip of that, just because it's not open, there's no reason for you to be in LA.

Be that. You can create it. Well, the only time I could create it, though, is in an absence of the club. Because I wouldn't ask people, hey, leave L.A., the comedy store is hopping and killing, come to Austin. But when you can't open, they can't. They're not allowing them to open. And it could be years.

Who the fuck knows now? Right? Here we are now, eight months in. No one ever. We thought it was two weeks. Remember when you thought it was two weeks? We thought it was two weeks. But then again, even moving forward, Joe,

you got to remove the possibility of something taking, you got to remove yourself from the possibility of somebody taking something away from you. Like that, yeah. Like that.

The way you're thinking and the way Dave has thought throughout this summer was like, yo, we really can make this shit. Well, also, what we were saying before, that we were all connected to Hollywood because we thought we needed Hollywood in order to get us on television, in order to pay our bills. We needed to get hired.

And then once podcasting came along, I think people realized, no, you don't. You just need your friends. And you have a bunch of funny friends. And everybody's tight. And everybody tells people, hey, go see Theo Vaughn's at this place go see this guy go see that guy and we all get along together we don't need anybody else yo but joe the toughest part what did i notice in this podcast world which is predominantly white that's the truth of it you know i'm saying it's like there's a lot more white cars podcasters when it comes to that, when you say the friendship part and making money,

they really, about that life, they really do it. They really do it. They don't talk about it. Every one of the guys that I've done from D'Elia, from Bobby, from the whole crew, it's never no, oh, man. It's like, let's do it. Everybody helps everybody. Everybody's friendly. And there's only a few people in the podcast world that don't have friends. They weirdos i don't know they're out in the fringes they're out in

the fringes all right those poor people they they a lot of people go into things with like a legacy attitude and the legacy attitude that you know from radio is you're competing against the other people that are doing the same thing right but the podcast world is not like that but some people are like that like some people will complain if a guest is on this podcast and then on their podcast they'll complain like you were just on that podcast now it's going to take away from people listening to me i got more shit to talk about you ain't got no life well not yo i never understood that son they like oh i'm like nigga every podcast i go on it's talking about something else not only that but if you go on, it's talking about something else. Not only that, but if you go on a podcast and they like you,

if you go on a podcast and they like you, and then I hear now you're going to go on Bobby's podcast, I'm going to watch you on that podcast too. Right. Because it's not like I do one podcast and now I'm out of time. Not only that, but I'm not. I have more time. You're going to have another week is going to go by

where you want something to listen to. And then more people are going to listen to you on Bobby's if they heard you on somebody else's. And here's the thing, Joe. If you're interested enough, motherfuckers want to listen to you. Yes. That's it.

If you could do it. The toughest part, this week, literally, is I think the anniversary of the first time I've ever was on this show. Really? I think it's this week. Jamie's chugging. I heard those fingers, son.

My producers don't do that. Them bitches be looking me right in my face. I'll be trying to tell you. It is, right? Yeah, I guess. Was that? You were on before that, right? February 19th.

No, you were on before that one. Before that one? No, this was the first one we February 19th, now you were on before that one. That, before that one? No, this was the first one we talked about the RZA shit. That was that one. That was a year ago this week. Yeah, that's when. November 12th. Yeah, but you've been on longer.

Yeah, but I'm just saying. From the last one. Yeah. Oh, yes. So, I know you guys want to break down the story. It's not that sentimental, but I was just saying, I remember the dates. Yeah. No, I get it.

It was that. And it's been like it's been i've been doing it for a year and it's been um it's been interesting it happens right it gets it picks up steam it picks up momentum i see on your instagram stories you're putting on your instagram rather you're putting clips up a little assets get people excited yeah yeah but yo you like everything you said it was like once i got out of the mode, I'm like, ah, this has to be the greatest episode. I'm like, wait a minute.

And I started looking at the numbers of the most successful people in the podcast world. This is like episode 1,582. That's a lot. Yo, son, I'm struggling for like, yeah, this is the 30 episode anniversary. Well, you know how Goggins tells everybody he used to be fat? I tell everybody, go to episode one. It's fucking terrible. It's terrible.

We didn't even think it was a podcast. That's how terrible it was. But you did it. We were doing it with just answering questions off of Twitter and being stupid while we were high. No one thought it was ever going to be something that millions of people listened to. So when we started it out, there't you know there was no expectations now people have expectations now you realize like how much money is in it you see all these people that get big deals you see all these people that are you know number one on itunes and number two on

fucking spotify and you go fuck like there's there's a lot going on this is a whole network that you don't need a lot to get into. Man, the number one thing you have to do, and I kept tricking myself when we were talking about it, was talking. Can you talk? That's ridiculous that you don't think that you could talk. It's one of the most funny things I've ever heard. Son, I mean, with no response, just like me talking to myself. That's easy.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, I got a better chance of making a thousand people laugh than one person. True. You know? Yeah. But it's been a great ride, man. My dude, dearie over there, Julius. You know who's the best at just talking?

Bill Burr. That motherfucker. I know. Just, he never has a dead moment. He will start on a subject, and then you know what they want to fucking do? And then an hour later. He was one of the guys that had it. I was like, what would your style be more like? I'm just like, I don't want to fucking talk to nobody.

I just want to say what I want to fucking say, and fuck you. And then it was like the Monday rant or something he had. Yeah, Monday morning podcast. Monday morning podcast. And it was just like, I was like, this motherfucker can talk shit for whatever. It's like a dude that wins all the bar fight conversations. And it's the perfect platform for that. Oh, for Bill, it's the perfect platform.

One of the things he used to do is he used to use his cell phone and this is when god the early days of the monday morning podcast i don't know when it started i bet you it had to be around 2006 seven eight somewhere around there it could be i don't remember but what i do remember is that he he did a bunch of them where he like lefticemails. So he would call himself or call a service and leave a voicemail. Really? So he'd be sitting there at the airport talking shit about some dude's haircut. Oh, yeah, I remember those. Yeah, and then he had some way.

It was just him really ranting, just fucking with people. Yeah, the audio quality was fucking terrible because he was literally talking into an old phone at the airport and then leaving a message somewhere and that message became the podcast and you know what and it was hilarious it didn't even matter the quality of sound the idea was funny just like when i told you that time when jamie was supposed to help me produce and then he fucking reneged on me right right he got real mad at me whatever i remember it's like it was yesterday i understand

i don't know how those two are connected but but bill burr when he when he first started out like that was literally the perfect platform for him in podcasting like he's good at interviewing people i've been on a show before other people have been on a show before he'll sit and talk to people he's fine at it but as far as like ranting he's the best yeah he's the best come from an angry place yeah but he's also been doing it the longest you gotta think how many fucking years he's been doing that podcast where he just that muscle is flexed that muscle is tight he doesn't need like you can form an opinion but he doesn't need the response most people right need the response and the feedback. How else do you know if you're doing good or not?

Yeah, he doesn't think about that. He's like, and another thing. I was watching Seth Meyers the other night, and he was doing this monologue or whatever, and it was going okay. And then some people in the background were laughing, and you could just see the posture and everything changed. Once he got a couple of people laughing, it was like, that's important.

I heard his Netflix special's good. Really? Yeah. I saw a clip on it, and it did not look bad. It did not look bad. Is this recent? Because I know he had one. I want to say his Netflix special was at least a year ago,

because it was pre-pandemic for sure. I didn't see the entire thing. And I saw some clips and I was like, this is good delivery. It's good writing. And I don't know that Seth Meyers really had a long background in stand-up, did he? No. He had a background doing that show, doing the monologue for the show. But I think his stand-up was very good.

Whoa. I thought it was solid Did you ever see it Jamie? It's solid You alright? Jesus It's not a good time to be coughing It was very good What I saw, the clips

I didn't watch the whole thing Most of the guys when they do SNL But you know there's some people that have done talk shows But most of the guys when they do SNL, mm-mm-mm. Rob Markman Well, you know there's some people that have done talk shows and then tried to do a standup special and they don't really have the chops for it. But that didn't seem like that with him. He seemed very relaxed and confident.

Rob Markman He probably was in the beast for a while. Rob Markman Well, he probably did the right thing too. He probably hired a bunch of writers. I didn't see all of it. Maybe the part that I saw was the only funny thing. I really have no idea a lot of those guys i guess when they like when i guess to be buried into that show like that yeah it's hard to have time to go out and work out and no it's hard and work that but if you could do it like jimmy kimmel could do stand

up for sure 100 jimmy kimmel wanted to stand up 100 he could do it what do you think about jim carrey on snl as biden I didn't watch it None of it Nope Not one piece of it Not a piece God damn son I got shit to do If I'm gonna watch something

I generally when I get home I like to watch like things that have nothing to do with what's going on right now By the end of the day

I don't Oh you like documentaries and shit like that New Netflix special lets you skip the Trump jokes Oh there's a lets you skip the Trump jokes. Oh, there's a button? You can skip Trump jokes?

Yeah, you can skip the intro on Netflix. You can skip the chunk of stuff. But this is him talking to people, so he's interviewing people. This is just an interview about it. Oh, interview about it. Oh, okay. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, well, that's a good move because people are tired of Trump jokes.

That's one of those subjects where people are like, enough already. Man, I've been tired of him. And now I'm like. They're coming back around? To be frustrated. To be frustrated when a dude is on his way out. You know, it doesn't make no sense. It's like he is still getting to you.

You know? It's just a matter of time. If you want to say the voice of the peoples was heard. It was a close situation. But it is what it is, and he's gone. Why are you still mad? People have some legitimate gripes, and I understand where they're coming from. But my perspective is it's not changing anything, and it's not doing you any good to still be holding on. If you are anti-Trump, Biden's seat, I mean, I don't think it's 99% official, right?

I mean, they just haven't said it yet. And when they say it, then he will become president. And then Kamala Harris will be the new vice president. So concentrate on good things now. It's over. Right. But people are so obsessed. I heard them fucking the other day.

I might have said this earlier. Look at Mike Pence and him having a meeting with no mask. Man, okay. Why you still keep getting mad because this motherfucker don't have a mask on? There's got to be something else to talk about, son. But they want to talk about negative things. That's the thing. Some people get addicted to talking about negative things, and they can't regroup even after a victory and now focus on positive things they want to continue to focus on negative things and i can see their perspective

too especially with all these crazy tweets like i won that election you know it's all fraud it's all this it's all that like man if you've got some real claims and i don't know what the claims are i haven't really honestly investigated them but if you've got some real claims you got to present the evidence and then once you present the evidence you say all the stuff like i got robbed i really want it if you want to be in a position where you're respected right if you're the president of the united states this isn't a regular guy it's not like if you were involved in some ridiculous like small neighborhood election and you were joking around on twitter i won that fucking election that's that's that's to be expected but when someone's in a position where

they're in charge of the nuclear football they literally are the commander in chief of the greatest army the world's ever known and you're saying shit like that and firing people that don't agree with it fire fire motherfuck motherfuckers. I know these other places. Like, boy, this would be a great time for a fucking terrorist attack right now. One of the guys he fired, what the guy said was he didn't believe there was widespread voter fraud. He's like, you're fired. If you don't believe that, you're fired. This is like a madman. The interesting part for me is like you trying to switch the thoughts of a person that is a huge Trump fan is a waste of time.

Waste of time. The only thing you're going to be is frustrated. See, here's the thing, though. I don't know, and this is where it's really important. I don't know, and this is where it's really important. I don't know exactly how the election went down in terms of like, was there like 0.01% fraud? Was there 0.5% fraud? How much fraud was there?

We got to assume that when there's people counting stuff, there's some fuckery going on. Yeah, but the fuckery that's been reported, it's been like still no more than like 40 people bro and then the only other problem is that it's all done through these machines right and then there's been all these conspiracy theories about machines that were supposed to have been giving the votes to trump gave those votes to biden now i could repeat those things but i don't know if they're true. But what I do know is. You know what I'm saying? I do know it's the, but I know Georgia. I know them motherfuckers pulled all them envelopes up to the building.

And they cut them open and they took them hand by hand. They did them hand by hand. Yo, those ones that were recounts or whatever, those, you can't, there's no machine there machine that is hand by hand right it's fucking problem and how does that work do they does someone watch while they do it like do they have a supervisor because i would imagine you would want to have like almost like two people watch while one person does it which is so ridiculous but it seems like you kind of if you don't trust people i know you don't trust people you kind of have to have someone watching

it that's part of the argument that Trump's administration was saying, too, was that there were certain counts that they weren't allowed to observe. They had to be really far away, and they couldn't actually see. That sounds like people that like soybeans, son. That's a very soy boy attitude. But what if they're telling the truth? Here's the thing. I don't know, and you don't know either.

So if they were telling the truth and people were counting votes incorrectly or— They find no evidence of that. I don't think they have either. Every time that they came out with all these lawsuits and they're dropping them, dropping them because there's no evidence of it. He's probably made—he's had to have made every argument he could make no listen i agree with you i agree with you there's no evidence that they can present that's going to show people right now that there was so much voter fraud right that they got to return everything and start all over or they got to give it to trump like i agree with you i think this is what all these experts are saying they're all saying that even if there was voter fraud it wasn't enough to tilt

the election one way or another but i don't know how these machines work so if i'm even commenting on it if i'm saying they couldn't have done it that's ridiculous i'm saying they must have done it that's just as ridiculous i really don't know that's like when you're talking about voting, you're talking about how many millions of people are voting and all this information is coming in and they got to sort it out. You're going to have some mistakes. There's no way around it. But the question is, does it overall balance out or are the mistakes all for one side? If you find out the mistakes are all for Biden, then you're going to go, huh, really? Well, who owns the company that makes the machines?

And then how are they financed? And who programmed that? And how are they programmed? Is it possible to fuck with the data? It is possible. Can you show me how to do it? You can do it. So saying anything about the vote, everybody wants to know exactly what happened.

I think there's very few people that know exactly what happened. I know the machines and all that type of shit, but when they take the machines away and they say, okay, we're counting these hand by hand, the results of that have to be official. Yeah, well, they definitely should be. I'm not saying like the machines, but they was like, these-in motherfuckers was they they had to fucking count every vote yeah it's a matter of how they're recording it right you would want to make sure that everybody recorded it accurately i don't know how they do it but i would imagine that when i when i was talking to a guy like mike baker and who's saying that even if there was fraud there there's not enough fraud to overturn it. I would imagine he knows some things.

Yeah. I don't. I'm a moron. So me talking about he won. We all do that. We talk about he won, she won, and there's no way there was fraud or it was definitely fraud

or I think Trump won by a landslide. People get real connected. They get real connected to who's winning or losing this election, and I get it. Man, I'm going to miss Donald Trump, son. He's not going anywhere, man. TV? Man, I'm going to miss him on TV.

This motherfucker's TV persona is fucking... You know what sucks? What sucks that it's even... His TV persona is like, he's a TV motherfucker. It sucks that it's even possible that someone could monkey with an election to the point where you change the outcome it sucks that that's even a thought that we could get into our head that's what's one of the crazy things about people we're so nuts but that was if we believe in a side like people that are good people will do some shady shit to have their candidate win.

Yeah. For sure. That's politics. We're so crazy. That's politics. Anything goes. Anything goes. Yeah. So what bothers me, and I do think that Biden won the election, and I do think that, I mean,

I think there's probably some shenanigans, but I think the result is most likely correct. But it bothers me that there's even a question. It bothers me that anyone would ever think that anyone could— but I think that there's Republicans that think Democrats could do it, and I think there's Democrats that think Republicans can do it. And I think it's going to be real hard to 100% trust the election. That's one of the things that's kind of dangerous about someone going after it. This election is rigged.

This election is rigged. When Trump is doing that, he's encouraging people. And maybe that's a good thing if they are rigged because maybe they're going to be able to figure out how to stop that from happening in the future. Or maybe it's going to erode people's confidence in the elections. And the more he does it, the more it erodes. And the more it gets dangerous. there's a real argument for that too

but listen again i'm i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about man it's just i know it's nuts it's nuts that you would anybody would ever think there'd be any voter fraud on either side but we know that people have done it like that's apparently how they got jfk in wasn't there like some crazy conspiracy about the mob rigged votes for jfk and that's how he became but wasn't that a thing jamie yeah i've heard has that ever been proven i've heard talks about recently they were in such odds with each other that they would never have helped him i think he was really at odds with them afterwards because he didn't they like there was the the thought was that was one of the reasons why he was assassinated that he kind of doubled back on his agreement with the mob the explanation

i heard they were just helping uh local politicians oh he didn't play the streets to the president well his family were drug runners the kennedys were moonshiners they made their money selling bootleg liquor during during the time where it was illegal they were basically drug dealers and then they became this gigantic political dynasty they were trump no not the trump family but they motherfuckers they were more gangster than the trump family really because their their literal background was in drug running like bootleg liquor like moonshhot is drugs that's drug running you just don't think of it now because alcohol is legal deal they were drug runners yeah and who had

this shit connected to the mob and they were connected to the mob like you don't think they fucked with some numbers you don't you don't think there was some corruption who has the fucking money i think there's an assumption too that both sides are going to try to do it. I mean, that was Watergate, right? The results of this election, man, it's going to be interesting to see, can Biden work with two parties, both parties? I hope so. I hope they prove the polarization of people that are opposed to Trump being in office and now they're not Republicans and Democrats. I hope they

work together. Yeah, man. That's what I hope. I hope they work together. Do it fast. Biden's got a lot of time. You got to get used to President Kamala. That's what you got to get used to. I said it, man. She's going to be the first. I said it. That's the position.

I don't see how he can do eight years so what if the economy's going strong and four i think four he's gonna keep it moving man who knows it's a setup i said it on stage i said get ready for your first female black president because this is the setup for her she certainly could win they're grooming it she could she certainly could take over too if he dies or if he if he can't medically continue anymore but here's another thing you got to think of they're doing shit to people that they're doing some wild shit in terms of medicine and regenerative medicine and stem cells and they just hook him up to stem cells every day really shoot him up with nad and vitamin feeds and steroids and growth hormone you never know they might keep that motherfucker

around for a long time. How Joseph Kennedy made his fortune. Hint, it was bootlegging. No, this says wasn't bootlegging. Oh, it wasn't. Oh, I can't see the end because of the white shirt. According to this biographer, that is a rumor that started in the 60s and 70s when they were trying to figure out who killed JFK,

and maybe it was the mafia because they were in that business. That sounds like the Kennedy family is trying to cover up their dirty tracks. It could be. It's a rumor. Get the fuck out of here. Is it a rumor about you bootlegging ever? I was looking because I've heard that too, but it right away says he was in the stock market.

Well, maybe. Maybe bootlegging too. Let's try another source. Let's see. Joseph Kennedy was a bootlegger. Type that in. Well, that story is going to come here. The Daily Beast.

The myth of Joe Kennedy's bootlegging. Oh, so it is a myth. I don't know where I would find the correct story to, you know. I know, right? Like how do you know who's telling the truth and whether or not it's a big old historical cover up? Like if you were bootlegging, how much information would there be about you being a bootlegger? Unless you got arrested for it.

For me? I think cops were probably in on bootlegging back then, don't you think? Everybody that could make money was involved with it. Sure. Everybody, where's my piece? Why wouldn't you? They probably were angry that the bars were closed too. And then they wanted a couple bottles. Give me a couple bottles, a couple hundred dollars, so you can do whatever you want to do.

Do you imagine if that's how we live right now, if booze was illegal? Imagine as much as people drink, if you had to do it all secret. You had to have a big dude by the door. You had to have a password to get in. You're always worried about getting raided by the cops. Just so you could have a drink. But people would do it. They did it.

They did it for years. They made organized crime. That's where Al Capone made all of his money. Yeah, that's the argument that's going on right now with the Mexican cartels. The reason why they're able to make so much money is because all that stuff's illegal, and they're consuming it in the United States. So you're playing a stupid game. You're pretending people aren't taking it when they are.

You're making it illegal because you said they shouldn't do it. But you want to control it at the end of the day. Meanwhile, you're just empowering organized crime. And that's what they did with organized crime in Chicago. That's what they did with organized crime in a lot of areas in this country where they had bootleggers. And that's why they probably want to position people that they had influence over to be politicians.

For sure. They had so much money. And back then there was no internet. Nobody knew what was in your bank account or where it came from. Bro, shut that ding off. Jesus Christ. No, I was checking. I didn't know.

Hold on a second. Sorry, man. Dude, put that shit on airplane mode. What are you doing? Okay. Do you know how to shut off the ding, though? Come on, man. Stop disrespecting me, man.

But you've done it a few times. I don't understand why it keeps dinging. It won't ding again, man. All right. I'm sorry, man. Stop disrespecting me, man. But you've done it a few times. I don't understand why it keeps dinging. It won't ding again, man. All right. I'm sorry, man. Oh, Don L. Don L. See, you can't say shit now.

You don't even know how to non-ding your phone. I don't turn this bitch off, son. Just shut the fucking ringer off, man. I did. It was still dinging. No, you got to flip it up towards you. You're keeping it down which is off man okay it's gonna ding again i'm sorry man it's gonna ding from beyond the grave

she's adorable man um man what were we just talking about i don't know do you remember jamie oh kennedy's being a bootlegger. Oh, yeah. Maybe not. I might be full of shit. We didn't know. For sure. We kind of validated the story, but it was like there was just a rumor. I don't know how it started. Right.

For sure there's a lot of organized crime money in fucking bootlegging. That's a fact. I'm on antibiotics because I got shot. Yeah, you can't drink for how long? Like three more days, son. Refreshing, though. Give your body a little bit of a break. It is, but I'm...

You miss it. You're looking forward to three days from now. No, I'm not missing it. You know what I'm saying? Like after a show, a little shot. Right. You know, I just got this for all the people that's been in the streets and got shot. Gotta get better.

Are you nervous for the country right now? Are you nervous about the future? No. Not at all? No. I believe that we're always going to find solutions to stuff. Like the first thing, like you mentioned about people that need to work or whatever, the first thing that's going to happen

is there's going to be some type of stimulus package approved. Motherfuckers are going to feel somewhat security or a little better if they have some money to be able to do something. But this is just something that we're going to get past. It's just a matter of time. And with the vaccine being on board,

with them having more ways to test somebody in a faster manner that don't cost as much, I think it's going to change people's attitude, the way they feel about certain things, and things will start turning around. I hope you're right. My concern really is about how hard it's going to be to turn around the economy with that many people out of work. That's what my worry is.

So many people are going to be broke, and so many people are going to lose their houses, and so many people are going to get evicted. I just don't know how they stopped that and turned that around when all these jobs are gone because all these businesses went under. That's what scares me. It's like this wasn't anticipated. I think there would have been another way to do it. They certainly didn't lock down as much out here, not nearly as much.

And then that's a good point because whatever I mean, like, whatever you worked for, whatever just could be pulled from under you just like that. That's the thing about, like, you can't say that the people that are upset today are soy boys. They can't say that they're all pussies because there's a lot of people that are upset through no fault of their own. They lost everything, right? You could be the most disciplined guy in the world. You get up early every day. You work hard all day.

You build a business. And then all of a sudden COVID comes around and you find out your margins are a lot smaller than you thought. Nobody expected it to go eight, nine months, right? So you're not making any money for eight, nine months and you can't reopen? There's a lot of businesses like that. There's a lot of bars. There's a lot of bailouts. There's a lot of bailouts.

There's not enough bailouts. There's so many businesses. There's not enough. And they're not going to give you all you lost. You're going to lose a tremendous amount no matter what. Boy, there was a lot of people getting that money that was bullshit. Boy, it was so much goddamn fucking scandal with them. PBA loans and shit, man.

Everybody was grabbing them bitches. They'll find money, then you got to pay it back. I hope we figure out a way to make this uh make this economy bounce back and but i say we when i say we i mean people way smarter than me i hope i hope somebody figures it out i hope my son had the best life he can have yeah well i hope so too you know what i'm saying like i think that it's gonna get you're gonna just start going to be concerned about people that are close to them and their family and how that situation is going. Yeah. I mean, everybody hopes that the next person that gets in office is going to nail it.

Everybody hopes the next person that gets in office is going to fix all our problems. We got to change the way we communicate with each other. That's a big one everybody's locked in this trap of uh us versus them of red versus blue of like what whatever the the trap is like whatever your particular trap is there's men versus women traps there's people get crazy with being tribal and being on a fucking team. We're supposed to be one team. We're supposed to be the United States of America. If we differ on small things like immigration or things like financial issues

or how to use taxes, the most important thing is that we all want what's best for the country. We all want the country to do well. You want to thank people. That's how you want people to feel. That's what drove me the most crazy about Trump being president. I felt like it was the first time I could ever remember where people wanted things to be bad so that he would be a bad president.

I guess they probably did with Obama, too. They wanted things to go bad so they could blame it on him like they would rather have something to blame on him than to have everything go well like if you asked a hardcore trump hater would you rather this would be a good question would you rather the economy become the greatest economy the world has ever known and you'd be totally wrong and trump even though he's a pussy grabber and he's full of shit and he brags about himself became literally the best person to make the decisions that were the best for the country or would you rather the

economy fall to the toilet and trump goes to jail like trump goes to jail. You're like, Trump goes to jail. Yeah. Yeah, there's no bargain. Yeah, I know. He would immediately. There would be no hesitation. Put him in jail. Fuck him. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. That sounds like a relationship.

Whatever makes you happy, you're like, fuck that. I don't want him to be happy. Well, they definitely didn't want him to do well, which is weird. They wanted him to get arrested and then the economy to bounce back. That's what they wanted him to get arrested then the economy to bounce back that's what they wanted but another thing they wanted to joe they wanted um to feel like uh you cared about them they wanted to feel like you cared about something or somebody else other than your fan base that was a big part of it man people didn't i don't think people were just looking for reasons to hate on him and i I know some people that liked him. Some people love to know nonsense.

Fuck it. People love a guy who came along and said, fuck you, to politically correct shit, too. There's a lot that people liked about him. People liked the idea that he got fucked over in this election, too. They liked the idea that the deep state was involved and that people were rigging voting machines and miscounting votes and people love those stories I do not know if those stories are true I don't give a fuck about those stories they're they're a bummer though it's a bummer that there's those stories this would be the ideal scenario whoever won one if it's Biden and Kamala they win

and then that's it they transfer transfer power, shake of hands. People do what they've always done with Obama did with Trump. They don't want to do that, son! They don't want to do that. That's so corny. You don't want to shake a motherfucking hand. You don't want to give up the secrets. You don't give up the keys. You don't want to give up the cars. But he's got to do it, especially if he wants to run again.

See, if Trump wants to do it again, he can run one more time in 2024. But the only way he's going to be able to do that, he's got to be able to sit down and shake Biden's hand and say, I'll see you in four years, bitch. You can't just keep saying that the voting is 100% rigged and I won this election by a lot. And all that's fucking dangerous because it's just dangerous for our confidence. It's dangerous. You got people talking about rise up. It gonna it's gonna be something something's dude don't say that here's the thing i you gotta show the evidence first you gotta show the evidence

first there's just to be like you have to compile all that evidence if there really is that evidence you gotta compile it all and present it in a very solid way shut down yeah it's um it's not i mean it's above our pay grade do you even understand national politics on that scale but i think that uh as a country i think you and i both know that this country's this is like it's never been a position where you don't know what the hell's gonna to happen. You never know. Like, you never know. There's so much turmoil and weirdness. And you never know. Is there going to be another wave of this pandemic? Are they going to shut everything down again?

What happens then? Whatever happens then, we go with what has become our new norm. We go back to that. You know what I'm saying? Like, things are about to shift. By the spring or the summer, things are going to be in a totally different place in regard to how people feel about being in public. Again, they're going to come up with some super rapid testing situation.

I hope so. That's going to make the fucking essential workers, people in the medical field feel more comfortable. They're going to make other people feel comfortable. And eventually, people are going to make decisions. feel more comfortable they're gonna make other people feel comfortable and eventually like people are gonna make decisions am i gonna fuck this i hope so what am i gonna do to to live i hope the vaccine and you know that the election gets resolved quickly james jamie if you had a guess if you had no i know but i mean let them let trump say it's resolved. If you had to guess, what percentage of election fraud do you think there was?

Take a guess. It's not zero, right? Probably not zero, but it's like 1-2%, like the normal poll plus or minus. I mean, there's 150 million votes. I don't think it's one. I guess that's a lot.

I think there's some less less than zero number or some more than zero number rather that is uh voter fraud i think that any reasonable person point one of those points yeah it's not and who knows which way it goes because i bet there's voter fraud the other way too we're not hearing about that because biden won but But if Biden was like Trump and he lost that race, who knows? They might try to figure out a way that the Republicans cheated. I don't know, man. Yo, I'm going to tell you, this shit has turned into comedy, son. What's turned into comedy?

This whole just not quitting. It's kind of crazy. Every day he's tweeting about it. No, it's not even crazy. It's entertaining. It's entertaining. I know it's unfortunate of crazy. No, it's... Every day he's tweeting about it. No, it's not even crazy. It's entertaining. It's entertaining. I know it's unfortunate for my entertainment, but it's entertaining. I get that it's entertaining, but it makes me nervous.

It makes me nervous when you start thinking that there's people out there that think that there's been a coup, right? Or that Trump is attempting a coup. There's like two different schools of thought. One school of thought is the deep state took over the election and they they they rigged it and the other school of thought is this guy is trying to win even though he lost and he's trying to figure out a way to sue his way back into the white house and this is crazy so this yeah so there's uh that's the problem is that it's not a smooth transition. He's going to win on one end because he's got the power of the people. Like, again, him losing, the support that he has,

he knows that there's a community. They're going to be fucking still on his dick right now because he can shake some shit up. Yeah. Fuck them. Fuck all of them. Am I ever going to get some elk? Do you have any help today? I have it at my house. Yeah You can't cook it though, right? I can cook it. We have to figure out how much time we have between now and the show

Yo, you can bring some elk to the show son. Not enough for everybody. No, just a sample. Yeah, why don't you just come over my house? I'll cook for you. What time do we have? I don't know. We'll figure it out when we get out of here. Let's figure it out off the air, though. But my two lesbian friends are supposed to meet me, sir. They're not like no menage a trois lesbians. They're just like regular lesbians. They're my friends. Okay, that's cool.

Yeah. Who do they think won? Biden. What? Hell, man, what? I said my two lesbian friends. Imagine lesbians for Trump. With their adopted Mexican son, Eli, who I fucking love.

You don't think there's lesbians for Trump? I bet there's a whole website. You know what? I never thought about that. I don't think there's too many lesbians for Trump. I bet there's a few. I bet they get together and like, yeah. I don't know.

I don't think that. That's the stuff what i said i never thought about you know lesbians for trump some people are really into anime there's a t-shirt there it goes lesbian for trump oh no it's funny but you would assume that if someone's a lesbian that's what i was kind of getting at that you would instantly know who they're voting for, right? I mean, I know that's kind of profiling, but I was definitely like, short haircut, you know, short haircut, fucking man cutout suit with the tie.

Right, like how many girls with blue hair or pink hair voted for Trump? Is it less than zero? That's a good stat. Yeah. Trump pride gay Republicans on why they're backing the president.

Because they get to dress up again. They're having a good time. It's a cool outfit. It's such a weird time, man. Such a weird time. I'm ready to just get on the river, bro. I get it. I'm ready to just get into some nature.

Do you think you're going to move there? Would you move there? I think so. It's a good place to be. I think the community, I mean, it's just like, there's such a community, man, this summer. And it was just so simple. Would you get rid of your place in L.A. and just settle down there? Yeah, I could do that.

I could do it. Better for travel, really. If you wanted to go left or right, you're more closer to the middle. It's better for everything, man. Right you wanted to go left or right, you're more closer to the middle. The nature is just better for everything, man. Right. I just want to be around some trees. I think that's one good thing about people that can escape from L.A. There's a lot of people that are escaping from New York as well,

and they're moving to the suburbs, and they're liking it better. They're more relaxed. They get some space. People are like, instead of being in the chaos yeah i can drive to the chaos yeah you know it's like fucking people from we're not even drive now a lot of people are working from home you don't think it's going to change i think there's going to be a lot of companies that realize like hey i don't need this gigantic space to handle all these people i can let people work from home they're more productive because a lot of times people in offices they get together they talk they have fun you know there's a lot of work

the green oh man i used to fucking be in the fucking break room i never was doing work always in the break room i've seen dudes in cubicles doing this shit whether the cubicles here and they're both on the outside they're just having a conversation they're nowhere near their computer people do that all the time if no one watching, people do that all the time in some jobs. Don't get personal. Scooting back from the cubicle, that's hilarious. There's a lot of dudes that are working all over the place that would be more productive if they just had a certain amount of work to do and they could just get it done at home.

But sometimes they want to patrol. I think it's a good idea. There's a lot of people that have jobs you have to be there right auto mechanic a lot of people fill in the blank carpenter a lot of people have jobs got to be there but there's certain jobs like why why do you need yeah why do you need to sit through an hour and 15 minutes of traffic when you could just do it through zoom and you sit here in a pair of shorts and a t-shirt and get all your fucking work done like what why do you why do you need to go somewhere? You don't.

With computers today, you don't have to go anywhere. You don't have to go anywhere. They just want to control the movements of it. They just want to... It makes sense, and I think it's going to go to that. Everybody's like, I'm working from home, I'm working from home, and they're getting the job done. Yeah. Everything is different.

A lot of people are going to be able to stay home and so i think that's just going to change the nature of cities in general less people are going to have to commute to them but that's one probably good thing about this is that people are going to not have to commute as much so maybe the roads won't be as jammed up if that that saves people so much fucking stress if you're a dude who works in orange county and you live in la and you got to make that drive every morning you ever see that fucking drive that drive is insane i've come from that job i've been going the other way of that drive when you go orange county to la at 7 a.m you want to just fucking end it you just you just like i

can't do this every day but you can do it for a minute because that's the route that I, because my accountant is out in Orange County, and I did that trip a couple times, and I kind of enjoyed being up in the morning with it. Because I didn't have to do it all the time. Because you don't have to do it every day. If you had a job, and you had to be at your job at 830 in the morning every day, and you live in Orange County, and you've got to go to L.A.,

you've got to leave your house before 7. Yeah. yeah you're gonna accept the fact that every morning there's a likelihood a high likelihood it's gonna take you an hour and a half or you get lost zoom or you can go on zoom i want to zoom yeah and you can wake up instead of waking up at six you wake up at eight you wake up at eight have a cup of coffee sit down turn on your fucking computer i get a really little bit of toast. I got Maggie. I understand. Maggie is outside.

Yeah, I got to get up early. I'm not like the old Donnell is gone, Joe. I get it. Like she's down there curled up. I'm just happy that there's alternatives for some people where they at least can work. If they can't be in an office, at least they can do some stuff on Zoom. But for other people, man, that's what I'm worried about.

What I'm worried about is everything restarting. How long does that take? Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. I know you're worried about it and you have concerns and everybody worried about it and have concerns. But if it's just like this, yo, what the fuck are you going to do? You got to figure it out. People are going to have to figure it out. Yeah, man. it's like this, yo, what the fuck are you going to do? You got to figure it out.

People are going to have to figure it out. Yeah, man. It's like, I understand. You keep saying, yeah, man, then I feel sorry for them. Sorry. Eventually, you're going to have to figure it the fuck out. Eventually, nobody's going to be able to help you.

Nobody's going to be able to vouch for you. And you got to do it your fucking self. David Goggins said it, man. It goes back to that same point, man. They're looking for answers. You are the answer. You got two excuses, a good one and a bad one. At the end of the day, it's the same fucking excuse.

I've said it before. And I know people are like, well, it's easy for you to say. It's not easy for anybody to say. Whatever's going to happen moving forward, it's not easy for anybody to say. Everybody's going to have their opinion of it. Everybody's going to be on the opinion of, well, give him a chance. Maybe he can bring the world back together. It's going to be a lot of Trump motherfuckers like, yo, fuck you, asshole.

There's been no supporter that's been angrier than a Trump supporter to the extent that there's sore winners and sore losers you got to pick a sore you can't just take both sores you see the thing is they think they got robbed that's why his treat tweets are danger even if you do Joe yeah even if you do have you feel this the part that's fucked up is this mine this is the part that's fucked up sitting here for a while probably not hot anymore what was i saying son this is the part that's fucked up about being sore winners and sore losers you got to pick a sore you got to pick a sore and everything is not going to always go

your way but you don't have to be upset about it. See, the thing is, though, what he's saying to them is it was a robbery. So he thinks it's a robbery. Starting shit, man. It's definitely starting shit. You got it. That's it right there. Yo, why all your shit got to be extra strong, man? This is too big for a fucking teapot.

It's coffee. Coffee pot. Damn, son. It just keeps the coffee warm after you're done. I feel like I'm on a yard. Everything is like a workout What's that? Does he want to come in?

Who out there Dave's out there tell that nigga to come here, son Yeah, tell me come on in come on. Do we have a camera for him? But he gets tested every day, doesn't he? Maggie just jumped up. Have you ever seen a baby dog, a little tiny little dog? I've never seen a tiny little dog. I had one. I used to have one.

It wasn't quite that small, but it was pretty small. I've seen little dogs. I've just never seen one in the baby form. David! What's happening, bro? What's up? How are you? What's happening?

Oh, no! What's up? You want to sit right here, son? Oh, no! Get in here! What's up? What's up on the party? What's she smoking on?

Oh, shit. Michelle Wolf? Come on in here. The whole circus is in town. I don't know how many microphones we have, unfortunately. Do you have a joint? Do you have a joint? Yeah, it smells really good.

I was smoking this. Marijuana is semi-legal here. How is this? I'm a semi-criminal. Let me get some. My guy. I'm a semi-criminal. Let me get some. My guy. Is there any coffee? Yeah, this is coffee.

What's up, man? What are you doing? Oh, bro. Living the dream. Good to see you. How's Austin been treating you? Great. We did two nights at Stubb's. St Stubbs Barbecue, the guy from the barbecue sauce. So he has a stage? It's an outdoor- You never been there? It's an outdoor event. Joe, you will love this place. I thought they said you was there. No, they said you was somewhere else.

I went to the Vulcan Gas Company. That's the only place I've been in town. Michelle is doing that. Oh, that's great. That's the only place I've been in town. Michelle is doing that. Oh, it's great. That's the gig she's got coming up. Yeah, because Cap City's gone, so people are doing shows anywhere they can. Are you going to buy a club here? Yes. You got to.

Yes. I'll be the first gig. All right. You heard it here, folks. Who's going to be? I felt like I have to. As soon as Cap City went under, I was like, oh, shit. Oh, now I have to. But I don't City went under, I was like, oh, shit. Oh, now I have to.

But I don't know what's going to happen after Biden gets into office, whether there's going to be another lockdown, like a national lockdown for a while. So I'll wait until after that blows over. Yeah. Just keep moving forward. That's all. You know what I mean? Like everything that I've seen you do, moving here to Austin, it's gangsters.

Correct. Thanks, man. We find a way. Yeah, we find a way. We were just talking about that, people find a way. I was saying, like, what are people going to do, you know, with restarting the economy and, you know, trying to get a job when all these businesses went under?

Like, how does everything go boom? And Don, I was just saying, we do what we have to do. We figure it out. That's true. I'm far from an economist, but I will say that planning for your future is a good thing it's a necessary thing even even though it's uncertain you have to remember the sun does rise every morning yeah so just keep moving and people that are in this shit right now never thought that it was going to happen now that they know that this is a possibility now we have to plan for the future for the future yeah i've never seen this

before never you know you've never seen something as large as the american economy stop and then start back up but it's a global phenomenon it's like it's not like it's just happening to us we're just handling it terribly i like how you handle it though i like doing those shows that you did in yellow springs It's a great idea. It was wonderful. Doing it in that chapel, that whole area outside. It's amazing. Yeah, it's a pavilion, all outdoors. I talked to my doctor, my family practitioner, and he told me,

you should play outdoors. If you're playing indoors, use UV air filters. There's specs of a building that might be safer. Many buildings now today are not outfitted this way. And you hope for the best. You take every necessary precaution, reasonable precaution, but it's a pandemic. There's no guarantees.

Are you getting any people giving you shit about doing shows? No. No? Nothing? I mean, even if I did, you know what I mean? Who cares? And that's it. There's nothing you can do about it.

No matter what, you know, I read about Jesus. Seemed to be a really good guy. They killed him. That's just the nature of people. Donnell, this dog is hilarious. Man, this dog is an angel. This dog makes everybody feel

good. She's so cute. I've never seen a little dog as a baby. I've only seen them as full grown little dogs. This is going to be her size right here. That's how she's going to stay? Yeah, she's going to stay like this with a little bit more bark and more ow, ow, ow. Now how is it traveling with her?

Is it more or the company? I mean, it's dope. Like, I'm like when I got her, I was like this. Oh, she's an emotional dog. Right. But now that I got it, I'm like this. Yeah, I'm an emotional human. Oh, and like, like, yo, let me tell you something.

Sometimes I'll be up at 530 and she'll be up her ears and be up looking like, what we doing, nigga? And I'm like, at least somebody understands me, right? It increases the amount of love you have, right? Because you have this dog. And she follows me everywhere. Yeah. When I was at the show the other night, I was on stage, and they said she was shaking, barking when she heard my voice. Yeah, it's crazy.

She was. She was like, where you at, motherfucker? Oh, she loves you. Yeah, it's a different world, man. You got a little dog that counts on you like that. Those are different kinds of dogs, too. They're so little, they have to be held. You have to carry them most of the time.

Is she scared or cold? Like, why is she shaking? She might be a little combination of both, son. Maybe she needs a drink. Maybe she has to piss. She's five months old. How is she keeping it together? Don't talk about her like that.

She good, son. She probably just needs a little warmth. Do you have dogs? Yeah. I have one dog. You probably have a huge wolf kind of dog. No, I have a golden retriever. I have the sweetest dog in the world.

He's the nicest dog that dog looks perfect he's so nice that dog looks like he has a great life he's just a love sponge like that dog is just all about love it's all he wants to do is like kiss you and let you pet him and who spends the most time with your dog me probably yeah yeah i can see i spend a lot of time with him we have a morning ritual what's the ritual i just get up in the morning as soon as i see him good morning sir good morning sir and he starts freaking out oh oh can you go for a wax his tail well yeah he does that but he loves chasing balls more than anything he's a great guy he likes swimming tracy hi i didn't thank you there you go no he's a sweet dog you got a dog uh uh three of them what kind australian shepherd

and uh one kind of like this what they call it a joey i think they call it it's half chihuahua half one of those hot dogs that's the one baba remember the one in my special baba that's him and then uh my my uh daughter has my daughter has a little dog like this. Not a chihuahua. I can't remember what kind of dog she is. My daughter has a chihuahua mix. It's like a chihuahua with like, I think he's got some whippet or something in him. So it's a chihuahua with long legs.

He's adorable. You know, I always wanted, I wanted my kids to train animals when they were little. Really? That's one of these things I should have followed through on. But the reason I did it is because I wanted to learn how to be patient with people. And I figured if they trained a dog or something, it takes patience. Look, this dog is adorable, but she don't know nothing yet. Yeah, she don't know shit, son.

She don't have snacks. The real problem is when you get dogs that need a lot of training. Like if you want to have a German Shepherd or a working dog, like a Belgian Malinois. A lot of people get those dogs. You don't realize, like, you basically got like a little genius with teeth that lives with you that wants to figure out problems. You know those, like, have you heard of those celebrity,

like the German Shepherds, the guard dogs, the real ones, but they know 200 commands. Yeah yeah schutzen training yeah yeah yeah i've seen guys do that some comedian got one of those dogs spent like 200 grand on it and it died in like a week those are crazy if you can have a dog like that that's a commitment man like those dogs need work that's what i'm saying you gotta bark german and shit those dogs are so smart they're from a long history of working dogs those are task oriented dogs this dog's a long history of isn't she adorable come on man she is come here

she doesn't want to be held back, bro. Have you ever taken your dog hunting? No. You can't do that, right? No, not my dog. It's too dangerous for a dog. Well, you wouldn't want him to be in the woods, first of all, because he'd probably scare off the animals. But second of all, he has the instincts to chase squirrels and shit.

He chases squirrels. But he's a lover. There's no aggression in him. With other dogs like he's always the beta he's always uh he's he tries to be the alpha but they they bark at him he's like sorry sorry the the australian shepherd's like that she's well she's like she's like the dog you described that needs work like you can tell she's a herder she corrals kids she corrals me and uh not interesting yeah they have it in their dna they've seen that they really do it's uh and the dog is really smart i'd never trained this dog but you you would think i had i just talked to it and you could see

her face trying to figure out what i'm talking about. It's really cool. Where'd Don Ago go? I think he's doing something with the dog. He's put out there. He went out there to beat his dog. They do figure out words. Like, it's not just commands. Like, my dog knows, you hungry, man? You want to eat? Like, he knows.

Oh, wow. He knows when I say, you hungry? What do you want to do, dude? You want to throw the ball? He's like, let's throw the fucking ball. He'll go over by where the ball is. You got to go outside? And he'll just start walking towards the door.

He knows a few phrases. Because I definitely trained him, like sit and all that shit. But some dogs are just smarter than other dogs. He's a really smart dog. Yeah, man. Does he like Austin? Do you like Austin? I love it.

I love it here. What do you do? Have you like- Oh, Donnell! Down with the count. Oh, man you did a great job you actually put it back perfect that's perfect i was dead in frame don't worry about it man damn that's the best recovery i've ever seen from one of these stupid things these aren't ideal these cameras mounted on the wall i like the setup a lot man thank you it feels homey you actually just tricked me into doing I've ever seen from one of these stupid things. These aren't ideal, these cameras mounted on the wall.

I like the setup a lot, man. Thank you. It feels homey. You actually just tricked me into doing the podcast. Sorry. No, I'm going to come and do it like for real, for real. For real, for real. Okay.

Yeah. As a matter of fact, I should come after the inauguration. Okay. Let's do it. I'll come after the inauguration. That sounds great. Nobody believe I got shot son Why can't you crunch on the air well you're crunching in the microphone you're eating

I would totally do that is it is it good yes have you had a gentleman bought up yeah it's good so what do you do you make jerky you barbecue it i just put it on a grill i usually uh i put it on a you know what a traeger grill is no it's a pellet grill so it just has like little wood pellets they make with sawdust i've seen the sawdust and these pellets poured into the machine so it's basically just fire and wood so it's like keep it at a low temperature control it like 265 until it hits 120 degrees internal temperature then i pull it and then i sear the outside one or two ways either i do it in a cast iron frying pan with beef tallow which is rendered beef fat oh wow or i. Or I do it, I have a grill, I could do it outside on another kind of grill.

Usually I like to do it in the cast iron frying pan. You heard it here first, Joe Rogan doesn't just like killing animals, he likes cooking them too. Yo, Dave, he always has a perfect, he got this perfect little chopping block he put him on. And he always throw the jalapenos on his side, right? And it's just,

you see this perfectly seared meat. And then the knife is like a Japanese, some extra shit. Then you see a little blood. And then the little jalapenos. And he's showing off, son. Do you cook at all, Dave? Not anything like you guys. Donnell can cook.

All I hear. I couldn't believe it. He challenged me. I thought he was joking. He's like, I'm going to cook for all these people. I literally thought he was joking. I said, he can't cook. He's like, what? Like he was offended. So he makes me take him to a grocery store. This is in Ohio.

And I was laughing the whole time until he started shopping. He goes to the lady, do you have clam juice? I said, clam juice. Started asking for all these fucking ingredients. Killed it. Cooked for like 20 of my friends in Ohio. And then went and did a show. It was amazing.

And then I made him apologize to me. He was like, you did a good job. I was like, no, motherfucker. You got to do it on stage. You said you was going to promise me on stage. Fuck that shit. I'm saying it on the podcast you were it was amazing no i made him say it i was like he was like yeah donnie i was like nah what the did you say how did you learn to cook just watching my mother cook just watching cooking

shows but i do remember when i was younger my mother was a part of publishers clan house and i think they had like one promotion where you get a betty crocker's recipe book and they had all these recipe cards and they're sending to you and it's like like meats and then you see all these recipes and i used to look at the recipe i was like man we ain't got shit to make none of this with we had the recipe we didn't have the ingredients so i just started reading those recipe cards when i got older. I was like, I should start just fucking with this shit I couldn't cook.

And then I just started fucking around and just started having fun with cooking. Do you go off recipes now or do you have it in your head? I go off of it 100%. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know with cooking, it's like a technique, an art of cooking. Like, an art of cooking. If you know how to cook,

you can cook whatever. It all depends on what spices or whatever. But if you know how to cook If you know how to cook, you can cook whatever. It all depends on what spices or whatever. But if you know how to cook, you know how to cook. What's a specialty? I don't really have a specialty. Really? I don't have a specialty. I'll follow a recipe.

Somebody will do something. I'll get inspired by something. But I do know I make these garlic noodles, right? It's not a specialty, but it's a whopper. It's like a wet-ass pussy dish. It's a wet-, but it's a whopper. It's like a wet ass pussy dish. It's a wet ass pussy dish, son. There's no way around it. They love the garlic noodles.

And I make a dope ass garlic. You can put whatever protein you want on it, but the garlic noodles are fucking crazy. In fact, you made those at night. I did? Yeah, you did. I was impressed. I love this thing he said the metaphor we had the recipes just not the ingredients that's a good metaphor for like

a lot of things in life we had the recipes but none of the ingredients we didn't have it that's a boy that's a bar you should write that down yeah i'll will i remember it but this is the truth someone will tell you it's true just watch the podcast tomorrow yeah everyone wants equal access to the ingredient that's right I had the recipe real equality right but none of the ingredients

the difference that really is the difference that's a great way to that's a great metaphor it is yeah for life that's what I was telling y'all niggas man yo he been not listen to my story the whole show I listened he doesn't believe you any time I mentioned I got shot I believed him the first. I believed him the first time. I believed him the second time. I believed him every time. You know Pierre Edwards? Yes.

Great comedian. I saw a video today. It was on some guy's Instagram. He's a comedian. It was me introducing him at a comedy club when I was like 17. Wow. Someone just sent it to me. I have to believe this.

Pierre from D.C.? Which one? Yeah, Pierre from D.C. Yeah? He used to do the funniest joke about getting shot.'m not gonna do another guy's joke but you know he got shot in dc like one night oh yeah i remember yeah it was funny he's funny too i got shot nobody fucking believe me man we believe you yo are you gonna bring some? I told you I'll cook some. I'm ready. I'm ready, man.

I want to see what they say in the streets. What's all this fuss is about? I want some elk, son. Yo, everywhere I go, motherfuckers say, did you try the elk? That's all I know how to cook. Is it gamey? No, it's not gamey. There's a weird taste that people associate with venison, a gamey no it's not gamey it's not like there's a weird taste that people associate with like venison a gamey taste and for the most part it's either hasn't been prepared correctly or it wasn't

taken care of correctly after the animal died like that's for the most part what the gamey it's a different flavor but i think what people associate with with not tasting good like i think a lot of that a lot of it not all of it but a lot of it isn't just personal taste it's bad preparation you get a steak from a grocery store you're assuming that professional butchers like people to grow the cows professional butchers all down the line they get the steak if you got a guy's deer meat who knows how this guy took care of that fucking deer you know he could have had that shit hanging in a tree. You don't see no marbleization in that bitch nowhere. No marbleization in there nowhere.

Sometimes people, you know, sometimes people shoot them and, you know, they don't get them into the morning. Look what the fuck I'm talking about, Dave. That's good. No, wait a minute. That's a show on board. Exactly. Dave, this is go-to picture. You're not going to shame me.

You're not going to shame me, John. This is a good elk day right here this is yo this is a good elk day right here son it is a good elk day wait let's what does the captain say watch he mentioned something about a jalapeno somewhere this is the final product oh shit it's pretty right but what's that a dry rub what rub is that that's a saskatchewan blackened saskatchewan it's a traeger rub it's like uh like a cajun style almost but it's got, it's like a blackened, but not like, it's got a lot of salt to it. It's delicious. It's the perfect rub.

I love that rub for elk. So when you cook it, you cut it up yourself? You know how to cut steaks out of elk? Yes, that's the whole purpose. I do, but that part is easy because that part is what's called the back strap. That's the big, thick piece of meat that's on each side of the spine. Look at the knife, though. Is that a Japanese?

No, that's an American knife. Who made that knife? Does it say in the caption? There's no tag or nothing? No. The dude who made it was shit. Dave, you wouldn't eat that. See if you can find that.

You wouldn't eat that. It's in there somewhere, same knife, real close to it. So if you're killing elk, how long are you eating that elk? You can eat it for a whole year. Literally a year. Yeah, they're huge. Yeah, I see a knife here. I got it.

There it is. The guy gave me the knife. There it is. Let's see. Neanderthal. Oh, Chumney Knives. C-H-U-M-N-E-Y Knives. Chumney Knives.

That knife looks right. It's a dope knife. Yeah, you'd eat it for all year. It's hundreds of pounds of meat. It's like 400 pounds of meat. They're huge. Okay, say you're shooting elk. You're bow hunting, I imagine.

Yeah. What happens? It runs off? You got to follow it for like a day or two? If you hit them right, they die pretty quick. Ow! Okay. Damn!

He do it with a bow though, son. Yeah. But you have to practice a lot, man. damn he do it with a bow though son yeah but you have to practice a lot man this nigga do it with a bow it's not easy but the point is i know exactly where that meat's coming from like that i know the whole chain of command i know everything that's happened from the time that animal got hit until the time i'm cooking it that's interesting you know because yeah this is mind-blowing. I get all my meats from strangers. Yeah, most people do. Yeah, you don't think about it.

I was in Alaska once, and a lady told me that she hadn't eaten something she hadn't killed herself in years. Wow. And this woman looked like a Betty Crocker model, like a house mom. She was working in an ammunition store. And, you know, I had never been to a gun store before. It was ridiculous. This is in Fairbanks, Alaska.

There was so many. Think of a kind of gun. The guy goes, this is a sniper rifle. You can shoot a bear with this from two miles away. Couldn't imagine why I would shoot a bear that was two miles away. That was the weirdest sales pitch. He literally said that to me. Yeah, that's like 1,000 yards, right?

Isn't that two miles? Two miles, way more. How many thousand miles is a mile? Oh, 5,000 feet is a mile. Right, it's not yards. Yeah, it's crazy. So they can shoot things at 5,000 feet is a mile. Right. It's not yards. Plus the 2,000 yards. Yeah, it's crazy. So they can shoot things at 1,000 yards.

Like snipers have hit shots at 1,000 yards. So just think of that number. It was a crazy thing to just be able to sell to somebody. I'm not going to get into all that gun stuff. A mile is 5,000 feet. And then 1,000 yards a bullet. That's crazy. That's so far.

That's really far. That's a long squint. Yeah. 10,000 feet for them is nothing. That's the scope, though. That has to be a scope. Again, this was Alaska, so you got to think. Things like guns there Are more utilitarian

Than like You know New York or something People do need You don't want a Thule out there I think Yeah Of course

Everybody has guns up there Well they also have bears And fucking moose and shit Yeah It's crazy up there It looks It looks unfinished It's beautiful

It's a wild place It's one of the last real The people that live up there Are a different kind of human. They're more... They're more durable. They're not soybean eaters. They have all these Alaska-isms.

That's it. They call leaving Alaska going outside... Really? Yeah, it's like a cult. They say the lower 48th, we all heard that before. Right, yeah.

They'll call the rest of the continental US lower 48. Tons of them. But it was fun up there, man. I had a good time. They're nice people. I've only done shows up there once.

I did shows in Anchorage with Ari. We had a good fucking time. They were good people. But they're sturdy. They're like, you can tell, they survive winter. They deal with shit that people don't have to deal with.

You make better people. The male to female ratio. Guys outnumber women in Alaska, I think 10 to 1. 10 to 1. There's not many women. Oh, some motherfuckers are sexy as shit out there, bitch. 10 to 1. Well, yeah, that's what you would think.

You think, oh, if you're a woman, oh, this is great. 10 guys. You got 10 dusty, dirt on the fingernail choices. These guys are rugged. Right. Right.

These guys are rugged. You know what I mean? Yeah, like, just think of the jobs you have. I was the only dude in the nail shop in Fairbanks, Alaska. Everybody else's nails,'s hands look like shit. Yo, you was killing it, sir.

I've been mining all day. I met a guy who's a gold miner. Weird jobs like that. That's how it was when I was in the Air Force, when I was stationed in Kunsan, Korea. It was like 10 guys to every girl. And whoever she was, she was America's next top model. She had the attitude,

like she was like, every one of them chicks was like, motherfucker, you gotta compete. That's why niggas was going downtown. It's definitely an unhealthy balance. You know Donnell speaks Korean. Not fluently, but just casual. But no, I didn't know that.

We were in New York when we were shooting Chappelle's show. We walk into a deli. Yeah. And, you know, two Korean guys sitting talking to each other. Donnell turns up. You know how he talks. He starts going, but, you know, starts doing the thing.

And I thought he was fucking with him. I'm like, oh, come on, man. Don't do that. I'm like, I'm so sorry, sir. And the guy guy because the guy looked shocked and then the guy started talking back

and they talked to each other for a couple seconds and I'm like I was floored staring at him I couldn't believe it and he goes oh they thought

he said they thought we were stealing son and I told him that we wasn't stealing I think he called him like a dog eating motherfucker in his own language and he was he loved it but he said it told him that we wasn't stealing. I think he called him like a dog-eating motherfucker in his own language.

And he loved it. But he said it. You promised me you'd call him a dog-eating motherfucker. Yeah, K-Sickie, I went hard, son. Don't muck it up. Don't muck it up. Because he was saying something about you while you were standing there, and he didn't know that you could speak Korean. Yeah, but we were engaged in the conversation.

Me and the guy was engaged in the conversation. Dave thought I was mocking him. Dave thought I was mocking him. Dave thought I was mocking him, but I was really having a conversation with him. So Dave didn't know. He thought I was fucking with him. Like, yo, you can't talk like that. And then I was rocking with him. It was like, oh, shit.

Those guys were floored. I was floored. They're like, when they see a black guy going to one of those stores that speak any level of Korean, they fucking lose it. Like, how often does that happen? Well, clearly this means, one could surmise that when you were in the Air Force, you spent a lot of time off base. I did. You would just be in town and just hanging out

talking to people. I would just go, when we had days off, I would go to these little small cities or wherever they lived. They never experienced Americans, let alone the black guy. And I would catch boats and shit over there, just hang out with them. And that's how they got accustomed to me and I got accustomed to them. Can you read it?

No, I couldn't read it. But back in the day, I could spell my name. But I was with trustworthy people. We all worked together. And it was just like, what can I do, man? Let's go see what your culture is about. That's cool that you learned that. That's a rare thing.

That's probably a difficult language to pick up to. The sounds are so different. Well, to me, I think it's a testament that you're a people person, which goes back to the original point we all made. You find a way. If you want to hang out and talk to people and nobody speaks your language, I don't speak that language, yeah, you find a way. Yeah, you will. So did you learn from books? Did you take classes? Did you learn from talking to people? We speaks your language i don't speak that language yeah you'll find the way yeah you will so did you learn from books did you take classes it was just share with the

main gate we worked at main gate you would have 12 hours 16 hour days so you it's a one american on one side and there's two koreans on the other side you could just stare at each other all day or you could just start doing word association you know i mean it's poignant stuff oh wow what did you just say yo airman on main gate airman rollins man doing word association you know i mean it's pointing at stuff oh wow was it what did you just say yo airman i'm main gate airman rollins man help you that was the greeting i would say when it comes some that's what they would say come something down but i would switch it to me come something down chalum eminem rollins they used to be like oh and they were yo i'm telling you son they used to get when I get a joint

right they be like oh lolis why why they was like lolis don't answer the phone because I sound like them

and then they would say something else I didn't know I was like yeah yeah come on touch him up

they be like oh cause your accent was perfect yeah I would do the same like when I started learning Spanish I went to Ecuador once for like six weeks.

I just started picking up Spanish. I had a driver that I just met the guy. I hired him. He would drive the car. He spoke like a little bit of English. I spoke less Spanish, but we did the same thing. By the end of it, by the end of six weeks, my man, I could speak Spanish. I would mimic the accent of whoever

taught me the word if i learned the word from an argentinian that say like an argentinian says it if i that's why when i when i do korean or whatever when i do it even when i do it in my act when it's broken korean people know that's the odyssey he got the tone of an older person a respected person it's the odyssey oh yeah like Yeah, like, a real Korean could tell who I was around to give me my accent or however I did it. So I have a friend named Japanese Naki. I know

Japanese Naki. Yeah, she is from Tokyo and for some reason when she was in high school, moved to Alabama. She learned English from Alabama people. Whoa. And which created one of the more hilarious accents I've ever heard in my life. Oh, my God.

Hell, yeah. She got a – I just like, where she got a country? She got a country accent. Wow. Yeah, she's the best. And she likes lemon pepper chicken wings it's that kind of stuff yeah in other languages there's all these weird tones that change the meaning of words like in korean in particular right in korean in particular because you can tell the way people

use their voice when you talk to people older people always talk down to people no matter what you did it don't matter what it is for you to celebrate. It's always like, ah, it wasn't enough. Do you know that those problems in communication is why Korean Air only teaches pilots in English? They only learn and communicate in English. They're not allowed to communicate in Korean. How do you know that? Well, because they started, they recognized that there was an issue with the superior and dealing with a superior. Like if you were my captain and i was your i couldn't say

certain things to you if the fucking plane's gonna crash oh i can't simply say you you're doing it the wrong way this is what you can't say it but in english you can't so they taught them to communicate in english because it's it changes the way or they only use english because it changes the way you communicate with people you don don't have that cultural classification of a superior, of an older person who demands respect. I get it. And that's the one thing people don't understand about, especially Korean culture, is the level of respect that they have.

People think it's like, oh, you don't fuck with me because I'm black. No, the level of respect they have, they give a fuck about being older. That's money. That's prestige. That's everything. you being older in Korean culture was money you know I was around Korea I like this yeah I like this cultural nuance of Korea is a fascinating yeah they don't have hard workers but they don't have