The Joe Rogan Experience - #1603 - Brendan Schaub

Episode Date: January 29, 2021

Brendan Schaub is a comedian, actor, and retired mixed martial artist. He is the host of the The Fighter and the Kid and Below the Belt podcasts. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day that's nice are we up oh just tell me about that watch what is that this is a hoyer from 1950 so before yeah so before tog bought hoyer is it tag or is it tog it depends my dad always told me tog okay might be tag though well it's spelled tag it could be tog yeah tag tog but before they collabed with them or went into business with them there was just hoyer so this is a 1950 hoyer wow that's pretty cool old fucking watch super old man that's carefully haunted yeah right yeah there's something cool about that right having something that's a pretty cool fucking watch super old man that's definitely haunted yeah right yeah there's something cool about that right having something that's that old oh that and no one else
Starting point is 00:00:50 you know you're not gonna see a lot of it that's what i like shit no way in us yeah kind of like cars you know the same with cars do you have to wind it every morning yes it's annoying but it's worth it what do you got there is that omega no it's a grand Seiko This is a winder too You have to wind this thing too It's got a spring drive It shows you on here like when it's winding up Yeah, I appreciate it Yeah, you know Matt Farah from the Smoking Tire? Yeah
Starting point is 00:01:13 He turned me on to Grand Seikos They're great Yeah, dude It's such a beautiful design Their whole company Like the way they design watches It's all They call it Zoratsu
Starting point is 00:01:23 This is like hand polished finish. They do. They take it to like the ultimate detail level. If you get too into watches, it's going to get expensive. Yeah. Well, did you give your boy Lex Friedman a watch?
Starting point is 00:01:35 Yes, I did. I gave him, I would give you this one, but my wife gave me this from 1950. I just can't do that, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Don't give me that. Just buy the company. Just buy the company. Well, Lex had this bullshit watch that watch. Just buy the company. Just buy the company. Just buy the company. Well, Lex had this bullshit watch that he bought from Amazon.com for like 20 bucks. Dude, what are you doing? It's giant, like a Frisbee. It looked goofy. And his nice suit and everything, he dressed so nice.
Starting point is 00:01:56 And I was like, you need a real watch. And I was a little drunk. I was like, I'm going to give him my watch. Yeah. It's my favorite watch, too. Because it has a moon on it. Was it Omega? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:04 It's an Omega Speedmaster Moonphase watch. I love Omegas. I watch, too, because it has a moon on it. Was it Omega? Yeah, it's an Omega Speedmaster Moonphase watch. I love Omegas. I do, too. And the Moonphase watch has a high-resolution, a tiny, high-resolution image of the moon, and it shows you the exact position of the moon in the sky. So when the moon is at half moon, it shows it on the watch. When it's at full moon, it shows it on the watch.
Starting point is 00:02:24 But when you see it, see if you can get an image of that does he know watches was he stoked or was he like i don't know how much he knows about watches i went home and looked but it's it was legitimately my favorite watch but just because of the moon phase aspect of it plus it's just omega is a it's a classic company it's not it's not too showy like Rolex is very showy like if you have a Rolex it's like you want to let everybody know but they're great watches nothing wrong with them say the best but it's like it's become too almost pop culture like yeah my mind I have a sub-mariner from 1991 that's that's the the black band version of it but it's very similar the one that I
Starting point is 00:02:59 have a steel band so see that image of the moon yeah it's like a perfect image like high-resolution image of the moon, just very tiny. What color band was yours? Metal? Steel. It's all steel. Yeah. So it's basically the same watch, just with a steel.
Starting point is 00:03:12 That was the watch. That's it right there. Didn't Russell Peters give you a watch? He did. A Breitling, right? Yeah, a Breitling. And I wear that watch every time I do a special. Oh, that's cool, man.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah. So you paint it forward. I wear that watch every time I do a special. Oh, that's cool, man. Yeah. So you're paying it forward. From 2014, I did my 2014, 2016, and 2018 specials. I'm all wearing the Russell Peters watch. That's so cool, man.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yeah. Have you been getting up much around here? Yeah. I've been doing, well, obviously I was doing those shows with Dave until he got the cooties. And what was that? It was shows here? Stubbs Amphitheater. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Stubbs has a 400 seat amphitheater and uh so we tested the entire crowd and then um someone in dave's circle not related to the show got covid and was hanging around with dave got dave sick got three or four other people sick radio rahim got sick. Radio Raheem got sick. The photographer's son got sick. I don't know if the photographer got sick. A lot of guys got sick. Did you and Elon get it? No.
Starting point is 00:04:11 No, Elon already had it. Okay, he has the antibody. Elon had it in the past, and a lot of people were saying that his girlfriend Grimes gave it to Dave. That's not true. No. It was another guy that gave it to Dave. His girlfriend Grimes had gotten over it already long before, like several days before she got to the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I don't know. Maybe you have the blood type or you're just built different where you're not the guy who's going to get COVID. I don't know, man. But I was at a show. You would have got it by now. We'll see. I was at a show with several people that wound up getting COVID. Because I went to this show and uh i didn't expect
Starting point is 00:04:47 that it was going to be like so covid everybody was just you can feel it out here bro people don't give a fuck they just go out but the thing is like florida yeah oh i know dude i did a show for new year's eve i walked out and there's it was just everyone's together and i come i'm like do you guys not get the news like listen i'm pretty loosey-goosey but this is ridiculous and i see a guy making out with two chicks in the front i go hey hold on stop do you know each other they're like no i'm like the fuck you doing man they're not worried about it they're not worried about it no they don't care man do you know about uh quercetin and zinc and all those different nutrients.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah. For people that didn't listen to the Mark Gordon podcast, I'd recommend you listen to it because there's actual peer-reviewed studies on quercetin, which is something called an ionophore, which gets ions into the cells. And then you take that with zinc as a much higher absorption rate of zinc. And according to Dr. Gordon, it essentially like stops viruses dead in its tracks when you take this on a regular basis. Even COVID. Yeah. And I'm just on, I have not wavered even a little on my vitamins.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Me neither. I stay, unless I got COVID, right? I was like the canary in the coal mine for comics. Well, you were there early. I was the first one. Yeah. It seems to me like kind of everybody's going to get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:04 At this point in time. Be cool, man. Yeah. Be cool. Yeah. Everybody everybody's gonna get it Yeah At this point in time Be cool man Yeah Be cool Yeah Everybody's gonna get it Be cool Well the people is like
Starting point is 00:06:08 When you get it They're like They want to yell at you For being irresponsible And for killing my grandma Kevin Hart's so much Smarter than me Cause he got it
Starting point is 00:06:15 And then announced Six months later Like hey I did have it A few months ago And was like alright Not a big deal Yeah you were like
Starting point is 00:06:21 While you had it You announced it The day I got it Hey got COVID And Joey Diaz Let me up Who got it Hey you got COVID I have a friend who got it And doesn't Joey lit you up? Well Joey was lighting me up
Starting point is 00:06:31 For going and doing that show in Houston Joe Rogan why are you going to Houston? What the fuck are you doing? You want to catch that shit? Want to catch that shit? Give it to your fucking friends Joey come on Be cool
Starting point is 00:06:40 Well he's worried about getting it And he should be With his health and his stature He should be You know because And his stature he should be You know because I have a family friend My mother-in-law's best friend Their son got it he's 22 You know out of shape but he passed away from it
Starting point is 00:06:54 Whoa He's 22 So there's like those outliers How out of shape is he Not like obese probably 5'10 280 290. That's not obese?
Starting point is 00:07:06 I mean, that's obese. But I'm saying he's not on TLC 600 pound life or nothing. That's morbidly obese, though. He's 100 pounds overweight. Yeah, he's heavy. Yeah. Fuck, though. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Yeah, shit happens. 22. 22. 22, heartbreaking. That's what's such a bummer man It's like We have such a problem With obesity in this country
Starting point is 00:07:28 And poor diet And that is the number one Comorbidity factor apparently For COVID deaths Is being overweight Should be a wake up call Like get in shape Jesus Christ it should be
Starting point is 00:07:37 But you know I've had overweight people On the podcast I'm like You doing anything about it I can't wait for the vaccine Like what about now What about now
Starting point is 00:07:44 I went to Tim Dillon's house To pick him up because he was co-hosting King and Sting with me. I go to pick him up because he lives pretty close to me. He's coming to check out the new pad, man. We go into this room and there's workout equipment. He goes, so here's my elliptical that I stare at every morning. There's my treadmill that I like to take pictures of. I'm like, you don't use them? He's like, nah, I just, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I got them here, though. He needs a trainer. that's what he needs you know he can i come to my train me after ralphie may died and after uh someone else died someone else died i forget who it was like a bigger person another comic died and he was like you know what i gotta do something i gotta do something he was scared about like he did king of sting it was like how many people are in the room i was like we have chapelle cat chin and nick and theo he's a guy and was like you gotta get rid of these people like but they've had it dude they have antibodies like i don't care i don't want all those people in there why don't you guys just test you don't test people yeah we do yeah yeah we test all the time and you know with showtime i shows at Showtime They test like a month I get tested
Starting point is 00:08:45 Right All the fucking time So why don't you just Test before the shows And then he doesn't Have to worry about it Well he doesn't have to Worry about it
Starting point is 00:08:50 Because all those people Already had it Right Everyone in there Has had it And he's still Yeah but whatever Made him feel comfortable
Starting point is 00:08:56 You know I get it I get it I get it Yeah Well I'd hate for Tim To get sick and die Oh yeah protect him At all costs
Starting point is 00:09:02 At all costs I love This fucking The new video of him as the new health secretary, the transgender lady from Pennsylvania. He's so funny. And his whole dispute with Airbnb.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Yes. He's banned from the app. I told him like, dude, I don't know if I'd make like threats to the many of those. Stuff happens, Brendan. He doesn't give a fuck. Because people die all the time
Starting point is 00:09:25 stuff happens he does not give a fuck play that please play that my name is rachel levine i'm the biden administration's new secretary of covet and many young people aren't wearing their masks because they don't think it's lit but i'm telling you right now you can turn up and have a great party even with your masks on. And I'm no stranger to partying. I love jellies and buttons and black beauties, Abyssinian tea, candy, tranks, circles, erasers, wolfies, jellies, moggies,
Starting point is 00:09:56 valleys, eggs, school bus, I love a little Aunt Nora, French fries, liquid X, blind squid, cat volume, cream jazz, special K, super acid, African salad, herbal speedball, electric Kool-Aid, sugar cube, purple haze, yellow sunshine, big cheese, cat, seaweeds, Alice Boomers, cat, cow patties, fungus, tweezies, yellow fever, velvet, Skittles, triple C, magic mint, and bath salts. So listen, kids, your new health secretary isn't an old fuddy-duddy. I like robo-tripping as good as the next person okay the safest thing you could do is wear your mask get vaccinated and then let's fucking get this party started right also after a short battle with covet 19 the president of the united states joe biden has passed away he's so stupid he's so stupid i love such a ridiculous person he's a gem he is a rare person
Starting point is 00:10:47 right and he's so prolific like he works so hard like anytime something is happening like he's got a video out like he's on really quickly here's a setup out of his house it's a good studio he gets it man and his ability to just rant like his podcast is essentially like him and his producer and he's just ranting about ranting while his producer laughs yeah he's got like a one-person audience tim's one of the guys on king of the sting you know it's me and theo like busting balls and making fun of the video submissions with tim it was like just bring up something and then me and theo just backed up let him go i had him on with alex jones it was glorious it was glorious because first of all tim is a fucking conspiracy nut not that he believes in these things but he's like
Starting point is 00:11:29 read a bunch of yeah he likes it he's he's curious about what what so he knew a lot of shit and him and alex jones going back and forth together it was hilarious characters man yeah dude this is the first whiskey that i've had in a long time i took all of january off anyone defending institutional wall Street right now got an envelope with photos of themselves at Jeffrey Epstein's birthday. So what Jamie's just pulled up with that and what Tim was talking about is this insane situation that's happening. It started out with GameStop with these intelligent vipers from Reddit
Starting point is 00:12:02 decided they were going to figure out... Well, here's the thing. Wall Street speculation and these people that have been... These hedge fund guys, they've been manipulating the stock market in a very similar way forever. Yeah. But these guys on Reddit decided to get together collectively.
Starting point is 00:12:21 And what is it called, the subreddit? It's called WallStreetBets. So WallStreetBets decided that these hedge funds were shorting GameStop, right? So they decided, we're going to buy GameStop. We're going to fuck their whole system up. Just to boost GameStop's stock. Yeah, well, just to see if they could.
Starting point is 00:12:42 It's fun. It's fun. So a bunch of people bought GameStop stock. GameStop stock rose higher than it's ever risen in the entire history of the company. I think it was up 11,000%. Is that the case? The actual percentage, yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I might have made that number up. It sounded good, though, didn't it? Yeah. I mean, impressive. It had never been higher than $50, $60, and it shot up to $300 to $400 at some point yesterday. Which is crazy. Even today, a little bit, but just more, though.
Starting point is 00:13:14 That's a crazy jump for no reason, and it was all because of these guys. So this is where it gets complicated, because now regulars... Do me a favor and go to Sager, his Instagram page, because he gave me permission to play this today because he talks about how this is really exposing the actual corruption in the stock market and real market manipulation because they're trying to do something about the fact that these Wall Street guys are getting fucked over and like hedge funds have lost billions of dollars because it's so but the thing is that now that these guys yeah let's play it let's play it real quick this is the one you sent me yesterday right no yes the one from today let me I i'll send it regulate and reform uh perhaps let's see all right sager what's on
Starting point is 00:14:10 your radar well i have a confession to make this is the first story that's excited me in a long time covering the pandemic and trump and stop the steel and capital riots and the biden presidency it's been a real bummer and i have not felt a pep in my step like this in many months. And it is now thanks to a bunch of Redditors going after the people I despise the most in our society, speculators on Wall Street. By now, I'm sure that you're all familiar with the story. Hedge funds and billionaires took out a massive short position on the company called GameStock. A band of Redditors on a subreddit called WallStreetBets called their bluff, drove the stock up to the tune of thousands of percentile more to force those hedge funds to liquidate
Starting point is 00:14:53 billions of dollars in losses while the merry band of Redditors gets rich. It's the ultimate David and Goliath story. Underemployed and unemployed sitting at home in their pajamas using the power of the internet and new trading platforms like Robinhood to destroy the kings of American finance. We are never going to go back to the old ways of doing business. And Wall Street knows this. So what's their solution? It's one that we, my friends, must resist absolutely at all costs. Now they know that they do not have a monopoly on manipulating the market. They are going to do everything in their power to go after you and people like me who are not
Starting point is 00:15:32 on the side of the billionaire elite. As I laid out yesterday, they are already going into overdrive on CNBC, who started off yesterday by inviting the literal CEO of the NASDAQ on to call for more regulation. Let's take a listen to that again. One of the things that we're talking about is maybe misinformation and pump and dumps, and it's occurring on social media again. I'm wondering whether it's part of the same problem, the type of regulation that we finally need to consider. And like I said, we should always have a light touch with regulation, but you're seeing the way things can get started again. This is different.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Maybe it's Reddit. Maybe it's not Facebook, but you're seeing the same situation. He's flustered. At this point, it's not about an election. It's not about an insurrection. Pause for a second. He's also calling for regulation. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:24 They never call for regulation. Never. They never call for regulation. He's super flustered. Assholes like him, the last thing that guy wants in terms of being able to manipulate the market and make as much money as possible is fucking regulation. So him calling for regulation is kind of hilarious. And him saying that they're manipulating it with social media, this is literally what they do. Yep. It's what they do. it with social media. Like, this is literally what they do. It's what they do.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Keep going. There are interesting things happening that seem to be spawned to some extent, or at least blown out of proportion by social media again. Adina. Well, I do think, though, that as we look at these new technologies
Starting point is 00:17:02 that are there available to everyone, including investors, I think it's also important for regulators though that as we look at these new technologies that are there available to everyone, including investors, I think it's also important for regulators to understand that, you know, manipulation is manipulation, whether it's happening through a new technology medium or it's happening through traditional mail. I think it's just a matter of making sure that we understand what the behavior is, what's underpinning the behavior and working appropriately with the regulators to manage the situation. She looks like a female version of the blind scientist from contact with Jodie Foster tell me she doesn't pull up an
Starting point is 00:17:33 image of that guy he's a famous actor on this clip have issues he has Richard Ramirez teeth it's a nightmare. Contact with Jodie Foster. Go to images. The guy in the far right, yeah. Oh, a little bit. Come on, give me that picture. Yeah, I'll give you that. Come on, right there?
Starting point is 00:17:57 Now go back to her. No, they look pretty fucking similar. Yeah, get called up. Good reference. Almost identical. It's so crazy. It's the cheekbones and the mouth. Are you sure that's not him or her?
Starting point is 00:18:12 I don't mean to deadname or misgender. Okay, keep playing it. Working appropriately with the regulators to manage the situation. Yeah, you heard that correctly. The guy from CNBC who hates regulation is now calling for more regulation. And the CEO of the head of one of the largest trading exchanges in the world is agreeing with him. Notice, when hedge funds manipulate markets, when they screw over regular people in different companies, when Wall Street requires billions of dollars in bailouts and floats from the Federal Reserve, there isn't any call for more regulation.
Starting point is 00:18:43 But a couple of average Joes on the internet make money at the expense of a billionaire hedge fund. Well, that just can't stand. And I'm not exaggerating here, just showing you one clip. The idea across the American elite right now is that what has happened with GameStop is unacceptable. Don't believe me? Check this out.
Starting point is 00:19:01 As GameStop and other stocks soared, Arthur Levitt Jr., he decided to weigh in. And if you don't know who that is, it's the former SEC chairman who literally presided over the dot-com bubble and was appointed by Bill Clinton, who perhaps more than any president, is responsible for much of the financialization of our economy beginning in his administration. Levitt wrote an op-ed in Bloomberg calling for a full agency investigation into online stock trading platforms and said that social media is taking advantage of users behavioral psychology and pushing them into dangerous territory. Okay, maybe. I don't even really disagree with that. But doesn't it just tell you everything? That this is what they want to
Starting point is 00:19:43 investigate now? That this is what they want the government to do something about now? Don't underestimate how mainstream this view is. Yesterday, the White House press secretary said Janet Yellen is, quote, monitoring the situation. Elizabeth Warren tweeted out that we needed more regulation. The state securities regulator for the state of Massachusetts said GameStop trading should be halted for 30 days. for the state of Massachusetts said GameStop trading should be halted for 30 days and the SEC now says they're working with regulators to assess the situation review the activities and other participants like I said hey maybe that's justified but you people are silent on the crimes of the actually
Starting point is 00:20:20 influential people who rig our economy on a daily basis. You want a near perfect corollary? Billionaire investor Bill Ackman, he went on CNBC in March 2020 to give an emotional interview to say hell is coming and that hotel stocks would go to zero. His interview sparked a panic sell on Wall Street. It is seen in retrospect as one of the precipitating events of that drop. Guess what? At the exact same time,
Starting point is 00:20:49 right after that interview, Ackman was buying billions of dollars in the stock as it hit rock bottom. In fact, he pocketed $2 billion in bets against the market as it was crashing. Okay, let's pause. Billionaires get a billionaire, man. This fucking...
Starting point is 00:21:05 Can I have some water? Yeah. What the mark... First of all, this is the great roach crisis of 2021 now, because another one's missing. Who's cleaning this place? The door was locked. I don't know. Someone took your roach? There's no roach. Never trust a man
Starting point is 00:21:21 with a ponytail. He's got an unlimited supply of weed. They keep vanishing here. What is this? Buffalo Trace. Buffalo Trace is doing a promotion with Fight for the Forgotten to raise money. And they're making me a whole barrel of whiskey. And so I got to pick out the various.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I don't drink all your shit. Oh, we got a lot of them. We got five bottles of it. Say less. Yeah. Grab a couple got a lot of them. Okay. We got five bottles of it. Say less. Yeah. Grab a couple more of those little bottles. Fantastic. But we got.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Dude, he was like, tell me which one you like. And we drank all of them. And I'm like, I don't. All of them? I don't notice the difference. I'm not. I don't know. You'd have to drink some fucking mouth cleaner in between to be able to tell the difference.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's tough. I went through the same process. I got my own whiskey dropping in march oh shameless plug yeah but yeah you get you get all these samples and like which one do you like and i was saying i'm like they're all good they're all good you know who's got a fucking dope whiskey josh barnett i've heard it's really good is it good it's really good it's uh i think it's called war bringer is the name of the company. Warmaster is the... See if you can find it. But it's a smoky whiskey. I really like it.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I'm not a big smoky guy, but I heard it's good. I wish I had a bottle here. I heard from you. He sent me a bottle to my house. It's excellent. Great label, Josh. Mesquite smoked Southwest bourbon whiskey. Label's half the battle now.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Yeah. Well, that's a different label than I got. That one's fucking dope, Josh. Mine was like a reddish label good for him it's very good though that's what i got i got that one right there oh that's even better yeah that's sick look at that he's got two roosters edition yes how's he doing he's doing great that guy is so fucking smart uh john he's so he has to be one of the smartest fighters ever enter the 100 he's so smart so well read you know just an interesting take on this dude's own podcast i know we're always pushing people to do their own podcast but that guy should fucking just rant in a microphone for a hot hour
Starting point is 00:23:14 for sure i think he was master hour planning on it right get on it josh do you know jamie you still beat up small asians in wrestling? He does some pro wrestling. Oh, you know who I saw at the airport? Boss Rootin'. Yeah, you told me he was jacked. Jacked. But is his arm okay now? Because he had that one arm that was all fucked up for his neck injury. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:32 He was just sitting down, and I was like, what are you doing? His neck was like fucking jacked. Really? And he was looking at, he's moving out of LA. He was coming here, Idaho, and I think he was looking at Nashville. Everybody's moving out of LA. Except for your boy, Idaho, and I think he was looking at Nashville. Everybody's moving out of LA. Except for your boy. You're staying?
Starting point is 00:23:48 Well, I'm giving it a year. A whole year? Well. How many guns you got? A bunch. You're going to need them. Yeah. AR-15, son.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I got them gnarly guns. You get it before Biden comes to take it away. Oh, you need your double barrel shotgun. I told my wife, Jill. You go out. If someone's outside, you shoot one off into therel shotgun. I told my wife, Jill. You go out. If someone's outside, you shoot one off into the air. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:24:10 No, I'll call Tim Kennedy. He'll save me. In a helicopter. In a fucking helicopter. Yeah, when I asked Tim Kennedy how far, he was telling me about this ranch. He's like, well, it's 55 minutes driving or 20 minutes by helicopter. Well, I don't have a helicopter, dude. He's got a helicopter. He takes a helicopter everywhere. Yeah, he's asked me to go shooting hogs with him out of the helicopter. Yeah, I don't have a helicopter, dude. He's got a helicopter. He takes a helicopter everywhere.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah, he always asks me to go shooting hogs with him out of the helicopter. Yeah, he asks me that, too. They don't keep the hogs, though. The thing is, it's like an eradication thing. Like, first of all, those pigs, people think they're not good to eat because they eat horrible things. They're great to eat. Are they?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yes, they're great to eat. You just have to cook them the same way you would cook any animal that eats other animals. When you cook any animal that eats other animals. When you eat an animal that eats other animals, whether it's a pig or mountain lion or bear, you just have to cook it to more than 100, I think it's 160 degrees to stop trichinosis. Like you're not eating meat and rare. No. Well done.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Nope, nope, nope. You gotta roast with it, huh? Yeah, roasts. You gotta just slow, low and slow. You can sous vide it. can cook it um there's one thing you could do you can cook it at like a lower temperature for a longer period of time and like sous vide um because it'll kill the parasites if it gets to a certain temperature for a prolonged period of time i think they've proven that like you can sous vide like wild pig and and eat it in a medium
Starting point is 00:25:26 rare but you have to get it to like 135 and cook it for like many hours yeah tim don't give a fuck about that he's trying to body count son well they just body count the thing is they get hired uh by ranches or they get uh told by ranchers like this is a place where you can take people to shoot them because texas is infested with wild and they're fucking up property like i get it billions of dollars in damage every year it's a crazy thing yeah it is but i i have a a position that i have to take in terms of like see the thing is if i knew that the meat was going to go to something i'd be i'd be cool with it but the other animals eat it other pigs will eat it there you go that's what's gross yeah it's disgusting yeah they'll cannibalize each other bears cannibalize each
Starting point is 00:26:15 other disgusting yeah i would do it though but yeah i'm staying point is i'm staying in la for now until how do we get off that track so far that we're talking about cannibals i don't yeah tim ken oh tim kenny's saving me and killing animals uh i'm gonna i'm gonna give it a year i'm like i'm i'm not gonna just rush into anything i'm gonna give it a year see what happens okay hopefully newsome doesn't fuck up oh he's gonna fuck it up i think they're gonna get rid of them oh they are i think. I think that Google guy. Yeah, I can't wait. That billionaire tech guy who wants to run. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah, I boosted his tweet. Fuck yeah. He said he recalled Gavin Newsom. I'm running for governor of California. How do you pronounce his name, Jamie? Chamath. Say it. Chamath.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Chamath or Chamath. What is his full name? I'll take anybody at this point. Yeah, it's a complicated name, but he knows business. And that's what this goddamn country, this state in particular, California in particular, needs. Okay. How do you say that?
Starting point is 00:27:11 Sir Lankan. Paldi Hapitia. Executive at Facebook. That's trouble. Chamath. Yeah, well, he knows his shit. Board of Men with Golden State Warriors. Dig that.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah. Big trouble for Newsom. Big trouble. Good. That piece of shit. Big trouble for Newsom. Big trouble. Good. That piece of shit. Big trouble for Newsom. And then Newsom is releasing, they've changed their policy in California in terms of they're allowing the restaurants to open,
Starting point is 00:27:38 but yet they're not showing the COVID data anymore. Because the reason why they're allowing the restaurants to open is i gotta think it has something to do with pressure and i gotta think it has something to do with the fact that they're being that he's being recalled 100 he's gotten quiet like you're not in la but every morning you should be on there talking shit and we're locking down this and this why we're doing this since the recall you barely hear from him and the one time you heard from him he was like well billionaires are doing good did you see that yeah it's the one time you heard from him he was like well billionaires are doing good did you see that yeah it's like they let you talk and you fucked up dude yeah
Starting point is 00:28:10 well the the other thing is that he did a q a and some guy asked him uh you know is this because of the pressure like opening reopening restaurants because the pressure because the recall it's a hundred percent not true it's not just categorically piece of shit like the way he said it though was like stammering and it's yeah it was like the guy on there like you can tell like the turkey neck he fucked up but you but new york's open in chicago open i mean come on listen when they shut those restaurants down to make it look like they were doing something it's all optics it's all optics all optics. It's all optics. So you'd be like, hey, we tried our best. No evidence that COVID is being spread
Starting point is 00:28:50 through these outdoor dining establishments. It's just not. It's not true. It's strange because you're getting rid of the middleman, but then these big, big companies are left open. So you're forced to go there. The problem is, it's real clear. The problem is they don't get penalized.
Starting point is 00:29:02 So they keep getting their checks every week. And wasn't Newsom, at one point in time, wasn't he supposed to take a giant pay cut? And never did it. Never did it. Never did it. He got gifted a home and then took a mortgage out on it. He got gifted a $3 million house and then took out a big mortgage on it. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:18 It's like there's so much garbage in politics. And when you see these people that make decisions that crush small businesses and crush restaurants and 75% of all restaurants in LA are gone and they're probably never coming back. What's interesting to me is people still put up with it. It's like, you're going to listen to this guy after all this? What can they do? You're still doing it? What can they do?
Starting point is 00:29:37 If they have a home there? Revolt and open up. But they can't because then they'll lose their license and they'll never be able to open up once it's open. Yes and no. Because also the cops aren't on board with Newsom. They're not enforcing the rules. Right, but the cops are not the regulators.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Yeah, they're going to pull your licenses and they'll never let you get it back. It's tricky, man. Yeah, well. But I talked to Emily at the economy store and she was saying they were having a conversation, I think today or Friday, that the Comedy Store in La Jolla is going to open up next month, hopefully. Well, you know, that makes sense. I want to pull something that someone sent me. About California? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:13 The Comedy Store in La Jolla should have been opened up a long fucking time ago. They wanted to do shows in the back pocket. Dude, I was booked there like two months ago, and they yanked it. Yeah, it's not good, dude. They're going to open up. I told Emily I'll do it for free. Give the staff the money. When the Comedy Store in L.A. opens, I'll do it, whatever they want to do.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Good for you, dude. I had Craig from Craig's and John Terzarian. From L.A.? Craig's? Oh, great restaurant. Yes. How do you say John's last name? Terzian?
Starting point is 00:30:45 Terzian. Terzian. Not Terzian. And John was telling me that when he was speaking out against the regulators and the regulations they were putting down in Los Angeles, they were visiting his place every fucking day. Oh, yeah. Every day. And he was like, you have thousands of restaurants.
Starting point is 00:31:03 He was like, well, it's not my fault. We're told to come here every day. They were fucking with him that that's garcetti mafia yeah that's they're they're doing shady shit because they don't like this pressure they don't like criticism so they're abusing their power because they don't like criticism they're gonna lose their jobs hopefully please name a. Gosh, Shetty, name a bigger pussy. Name a dude. Unreal. Yeah. And you listen to that guy. There's another guy that's running for governor in California.
Starting point is 00:31:33 The San Diego guy? Major Williams. That guy, too. But Major Williams is a guy who's a veteran, and he's been on the campaign trail for a while. Republican guy. The San Diego, I think it was the governor of San Diego. You've never seen a human being blink more in your life.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Really? He has to have a condition or he's a lizard. You've never, ever seen a human being- Do lizards blink a lot? I think so, yeah. They keep doing this. Dude, I'm saying it's a condition. Really?
Starting point is 00:31:57 It's insane. But I hope he wins. See if you can find Major Williams' Instagram page. Yeah, so he's on a run for the governor. Let's get this brother in there, man. Yeah, he's got a lot of support behind him, too. I'm in. Veteran.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Fuck yeah. And look at his positions. He's anti-mandatory vaccinations, anti-human trafficking, anti-voterulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, anti-manipulations, pro-school choice, pro-legal immigration, pro-forest management. All these things are good. Pro-armed forces, pro-first responders, pro-firefighters, pro-law enforcement officers, pro-life, pro-freedom, pro-family, pro-God. Who's not pro-God? Pro-second amendment.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Who's like, I'm cool with everything but God. God can eat shit. What did you make? What did you do, God? What did you do? What kind of a mess? Look what you've done to us. Look what you've done.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Look what you've done. Look what you've done with the ocean. You've got sharks out there fucking all these fish up. It's not their fault. I'll take it, man. I don't know if he needs all that, but I'll, whoever. Well, he's a positive force. He's got some real good ideas.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And then this other gentleman from Google has some very good ideas. This is the good thing about someone who's a poor manager, and not just poor manager, but corrupt. Like when you saw Gavin Newsom at that restaurant eating indoors indoors with no mask on that's all you needed to know that's all you needed you got to look more into him because there's that and you're like oh that's ridiculous well do you know he left his vineyard open and closed the other ones yeah do you know that his kids are in school yeah like read the it's there man you just gotta look into it yeah there's a real piece of shit it's's not good. It's classic politics.
Starting point is 00:33:46 And he's probably been able to do this for his whole career while he was running San Francisco. I'm sure this is the way they've operated forever. This is the way Nancy Pelosi operated, who's his aunt, by the way. Correct. Nancy Pelosi, who got busted at a beauty salon with no fucking mask on while the beauty salons were closed. They caught her and she's like in and she they asked her do you want to apologize they should apologize to me because it was a setup it was a setup it was a setup you know the fucking laws lady you know those things
Starting point is 00:34:15 aren't open i don't have hair and i know beauty salons are closed how the fuck do you not know it's it's crazy like the fact that that is tolerated these these people who make these the rules are for you and not for me different rules for you than for me and that's what that's what you saw with gavin newsom when he's eating at that restaurant with no fucking mask and then lying about the fact that was outdoors well his approval ratings in the tank so he'll get his how does does he have any approval ratings? That's my thing. How does anybody fuck with him? How does anyone look at that and go, hey, he's doing a good job? Well, people are coming at him from both sides now.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Because now people are coming at him on the left for reopening up restaurants. When I saw an article today saying that there's widespread support for keeping the economy locked down. How insane is that? With who? With who? How insane is that? But it's a lie widespread support among who your friends who are rich yep like people that have no money and are fucked right now want to be able to take a chance wear a goddamn mask take your vitamins and go to work that's what people want to decide they want to keep their businesses open look at cuomo he's like man we gotta open up because
Starting point is 00:35:24 we're not gonna have anything to open back up to if we if we keep shutting down like yeah bitch we've been saying this since day one dude dude when i talk to politicians who will talk to me both on the record and off the record there was decisions that were made that were trying to fuck trump over yeah oh yeah real clear oh they didn't want the economy to rebound they made political decisions and they thought they could get away with it. We have to get rid of those people. We have to. All those people that made those kind of decisions, we have to get rid of them. It's heartbreaking.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I talked to Governor Abbott, the governor of Texas, and he was real clear. He's like, we have to allow businesses to stay open. He goes, if we don't have businesses staying open, we're doomed. This is just how an economy works. And Elon Musk talked about it on my podcast early on in the pandemic. Yep, from day one. staying open we're doomed this is just this is how an economy works you know and elon musk talked about on my podcast early on the pandemic yeah you know he said these that these fools don't understand that if you don't make things there are no things yep people need to make things people people buy things they need things this is how the economy works if you don't make things
Starting point is 00:36:22 there are no things like these fucking politicians they live in this world where they get a paycheck no matter what. It's dark, dude. You look at the crime rate. Oh, dude, it's so dark. It's so dark. But what you don't want to have happen in California, and this would make me leave California, is you look at what Washington and Minneapolis did with the taxes. Have you seen what they've done?
Starting point is 00:36:41 Oh, yeah. They've hacked them up. They've hacked them way the fuck up. It's hilarious. That's why everybody's moving here yeah not just because it's cool not just because people are friendly as fuck those are look i would have moved here if the taxes are the same just because the way they're handling covid yeah it's just they're they're just it's just a better system here and it's also the other thing is like it's an easier system to manage because there's less people the reality of
Starting point is 00:37:03 california and the reality of la is it's there's too many people a lot manage because there's less people. The reality of California and the reality of LA, there's too many people. There's a lot of people. There's too many people to manage. Yeah, it's scary for sure. Hey, you like cigars? No. No? No.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Interesting. I like the smell of them. Oh, good. But I don't like stay on them. Okay. Just whiskey for me, sir. Just smell the cigar. I took all of January off from drinking.
Starting point is 00:37:21 All of it? Because I was drinking every single night. Why were you doing that? Just to kind of cope? Just to wind down just to get by 2020 was tough it was a weird year man so i decided to drink every night it's a weird year but um i think the for the people that survived the one benefit if you're going to look for the silver lining in the cloud the one benefit is that i think people are going to appreciate freedom and health and just the way things were and family yeah oh that's that for sure yeah there's a lot of people that really really appreciate their family and really appreciate the people that survived and you know when you have lost one loved loved ones that get
Starting point is 00:38:02 lost or they die in the pandemic or in any way and it makes you appreciate the people that are around you it makes you appreciate the usc too you know dana took a big risk when he went out there and was like listen we're going to carry on yeah we're going to carry on and everyone gave him so much they did so many people gave him and that is a did elon musk make that Or what No That's intense It's a Calibri It's a regular
Starting point is 00:38:28 Cigar lighter Is it Jesus I'm not a smoker I don't know That was pretty badass Yeah it was good right Yeah you look pretty
Starting point is 00:38:34 Gangster Yeah you're full blown Texas Yeah man you look happy Since I moved here I got 8 guns given to me Oh yeah People have given me 8 guns
Starting point is 00:38:44 Like Black Rifle And Tim Kennedy Yeah Tim Kennedy G gave me a gun when he came on the podcast standard uh and then eight other people gave me guns hell yeah yeah gun companies wow it's just like they're they don't give a fuck it's like in a fruit basket in la you get guns in texas well it's just a different place man it's different but here's the thing like there's there's pros and cons to all this craziness no matter where you live the pros here in my opinion outweigh the cons people are really nice they're really friendly the food's great and it's just like a more relaxed environment man i just i feel you can build a comedy scene which i believe in you and that you'll do i got plans yeah i know you do then there then there's a huge pro here because that's kind of the one con right now yeah because la i can do six spots in a night still
Starting point is 00:39:30 well no not well no not right now yeah that's what i'm saying when it opens up yeah well when it opens up here by the time things open up we got plans bro don't worry popping we're shifting we're shifting all the there's no here the thing, the reason why we were in LA is because we were hoping to be a part of the Hollywood system. The Hollywood system has more holes in it than the restaurant industry. That system has been falling apart for a long time in terms of providing comedians jobs. You get a few jobs, but the real jobs are on the internet. That's the real jobs.
Starting point is 00:40:02 The real jobs are the jobs you create yourself. Guys like Tim Dillon, guys guys like you guys like me like what we've done through podcasts and youtube and now spotify is you you don't need to be in a central location no you just need the support of other comics and guests and and you need to do your best and put on a good show and it goes to the whole world it doesn't have to be centrally located in los angeles no just doesn't have to be anymore no yeah my my thing is again i'm sure it's going to get better here especially if you open up a club and do that stuff but once la does open up and those those clubs are hopefully still around and i can do six to seven spots a night you know like you know you've been in la for how long joe 30 years
Starting point is 00:40:44 close you had that little stint in denver and came back but it's like you've been there forever man yeah like you're like you're older you're set dude you know i'm saying like you're you're a monster so you can come out here and do that i gotta hustle dude oh i get it i gotta fucking hustle no i get la there's just the energy there for me and i'm hope that's why i'm giving a year i'm hoping that those things open back up so that hustle is available now that you take that away yeah i'm fine there's no reason for me to be there yeah no listen i love la and i hope especially i love the la comedy scene i hope the la i hope the improv reopens i hope the store reopens i hope everything comes back to life and survives i really do and i hope it's a great place for the comics in that area to thrive and to keep going.
Starting point is 00:41:25 But we don't need just one great place. I agree. And I think that what kept me and a lot of people in Los Angeles was the showbiz industry. But I don't think the showbiz industry applies to us the same way it applies to people that are trying to get on sitcoms. I don't know why you're trying to get on sitcoms you know i got no i don't know why you're trying to get on there like at this time uh well i was making fun of chris di stefano because he was like i'm trying to figure out i'm coming out there because i have this show on true tv i'm like what the are you doing dude you say that but like look what happened with those impractical jokers guys those guys are selling out arenas i don't want to be those wasn't that true tv sure i don't want to be those
Starting point is 00:42:00 guys yeah but they want to be those guys yeah maybe killing it i don't okay you don't yeah i see what you're saying but listen chris di stefano is not selling out arenas yeah the practical joke and he's a funny guy chris di stefano is a very talented very talented guy really just a matter of time for him yes for sure but he's not selling out arenas those guys are those impractical jokers guys are fucking killing it dude chris is funnier than them all but they're not really stand-ups right no they're they're more improvisational they do a whole show it's a very funny show uh ari told me it's great he's been there he's done it with them he said it's fantastic i'm sure yeah they're good at that they had that tour that burt went on yeah they crush it absolutely crush it they had um i'm not a tour it's cruise right they had that cruise yeah but the point is like it worked out for them
Starting point is 00:42:44 but the reason i think it worked out for them but the reason i think it worked out for impractical jokers is because it's a great show if you have a great show you put it anywhere you're gonna make it no matter what yeah it just needs a it needs a platform and you can create your own platform i mean youtube now like was special and stuff look at mark norman yes if you if you put a special on you know i don't know how it would have done on netflix getting lost in the algorithm maybe if it gets in you know, you know, I don't know how it would have done on Netflix, getting lost in the algorithm. Maybe if he gets in, you know, behind you and Burr and Tom,
Starting point is 00:43:07 maybe it blows up like Nate Bargatsky, but him putting on YouTube, that thing, you know, he's had over 5 million views. Yeah. And that's all Mark. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:15 He deserves them all. And it's all word of mouth. People's, and now Mark is killing it. You know, he's out there on the road and he's, he's killing it. That's,
Starting point is 00:43:21 that's beautiful. That's, that's the beautiful thing about comedy. You know, it's like, if you're undeniable, people find you out. He does a lot of podcasts. Mark is always a guest on podcasts. He's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Everyone loves him. Everyone knows how talented he is. And he's dedicated to the game. He loves comedy. He's a true comic. He loves it. Yes. Loves it. And a great guy. Just a great guy. The best. Just a great guy. Yeah, I'm happy when guys do the andrew schultz route like what andrew did schultz he's he's so fucking smart he put all his shit on youtube he put a uh an improvisational special on youtube special on youtube yep all
Starting point is 00:43:59 improvisational all fucking around with the crowd and then he does his netflix series based on shit that he was doing on instagram during covid yeah so during covid he gets together a bunch of writers he puts together a studio he spends a shitload of money and puts together these video clips that are just goddamn brilliant just joke after joke punchline it's not even his material so he still has to do a special with netflix yes yes or wherever he wants to go i don't know if it's fucking for sure it could well not only is it not his material in because it's a whole new thing that he wrote with those guys but it's also a totally different style yes than he does and he talked about it on my podcast he's like his style is like he has pauses in stand-up because he recognizes stand-up as a different art form. But in that, he is, in my opinion, he's the master of COVID, of the lockdown.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Him and Tim. Yes. But he figured out how to condense it into this undeniable form that you could put on Instagram. I would send those clips to people and they'd be like, holy shit. I put them up on my Instagram. they would get millions of views because they were that good monster yeah monster yeah there's a few comics or podcasters or you know comedians who figured out in covid how to adjust and capitalize on it they are a lot of them just disappeared yeah but that's the guys that don't hustle Those are the same guys that don't write a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:25 That's what Mark Norman said. I had him on the podcast. He goes, you know, in hindsight, COVID's kind of good because you're going to find out who can hack it and who can't. Who can deal with it and adapt and be a real comedian. And who's got balls. Yes. Who takes chances. Yep.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Yeah. And there's a lot of people that just like, they're like, woe is me. When is everything going to open? When can I call in and get work? Yep. guys just said hey we have these platforms we have youtube we have instagram we have twitter we have all these different platforms you could just put up videos power through it yeah just just do it and just gather up a big following again it goes back to you know in major sports with the ufc when everyone was scared and shut down they went nah we're gonna do it in this island and fucking abu dhabi everyone gave so much shit but they did it nobody got hurt i mean
Starting point is 00:46:10 some fighters got punched in the face but i'm saying no one got hurt from covid everything's all good isn't it funny they were worried about getting hurt from covid meanwhile they're getting shins bounced off their fucking temples but you but they're like what about the fires you're talking about the most elite athletes on the planet who are in crazy shape you think that any of them like every one of them that got covid like i kind of think i had a headache yeah i'm sorry i've had worse allergy attacks well like and not only that like what what was calvin cater's next day after the max holloway fight probably worse than anything anyone's ever experienced other than dying from yes yes no doubt i mean uh john they should have thrown in the towel on that well my thing is though like you can blame i think listen you know i love you herb you could
Starting point is 00:46:56 blame herb there because like dude you know that kid come on but then if you expect a corner of four boston dudes to throw in a towel during a fucking cage fight never happening it's never happening never happened never if he was throwing hammer fists off his back keep going calvin you got him on the ropes yeah they're savages boston's filled with savages savages so it's like that was never gonna happen man so like like no know your know the audience so for herb it's like dude you know they're from boston i guess those fucking in herb's defense calvin cater was still swinging he was still fighting it's like can't you gotta live to fight another day man i understand you know when you're getting beat up like that and i love calvin man i hate to see it love calvin and i love max too but it's like that
Starting point is 00:47:37 was a royal ass whooping and you're also talking about a guy in max hallway who's ready never been sat down ever not been knocked down once. Dude, never. So just know the analytics, Mike. This ain't happening. He went toe-to-toe with Dustin Poirier. That's what I'm saying. For five fucking rounds.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Didn't get sat down, dude. No. And got rocked multiple occasions. Yes. That just shows you what a cracker Dustin Poirier is. The fact that Max Holloway, who beats the shit out of Calvin Cater and says, I'm the best boxer in the UFC. And Dustin's like, hold on, son.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Dustin says, hold my hot sauce. Do you not remember what the fuck just went down just a few months ago? Dude, just hold on here. Dustin Poirier, he's a bad motherfucker. He's a bad motherfucker. He really is. He texted me after the fight because me and Theo, you know, Theo's a big Dustin Poirier fan because we're both from Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Oh, yeah. And obviously, I'm a Connor Dick rider. And I love Dustin. I'm way closer with Dustin. But just for the show it's fun to bet. And so I bet Theo $1,000 cash. So as soon as Dustin, I don't know why he thought this, as soon as he got backstage
Starting point is 00:48:36 he almost got to his phone, text me pay Theo his money. Like yeah, congrats dude. That must have been on his head. I was like, you know it's head right after you know it's all love you know it's all love man can't wait to tweet yeah you can't say that with a fighter you bet against a fighter you can't say it yeah he knows his dad though yeah they get mad take it personal they do well they're very emotionally invested that's how they should be yeah what do you what do you do with dustin next Well, there's two options. Have you talked about this?
Starting point is 00:49:06 No, I have not. But there's the purest option. Which? The purest option is Charles Oliveira. If you're a purist, you want that fight. And I think I want that fight. That should be the right thing to do. If you want to make a shitload of money before Conor fights someone else, you have the rematch.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Oh, no, you can't do that. Well, here's the thing. If Conor fights chandler next which is a possibility if dustin fights um charles olivera and then connor fights michael chandler what are the odds that connor beats michael chandler i think michael chandler is a favorite in that fight 100 yeah and which is very dangerous for your money if you want to make a lot of money, what you do is you allow Conor to have some time off. You figure out a way to market this in a way that you explain a way that Conor can figure out a way to beat Dustin. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Good luck. He did beat him in the first fight, and he did rock him in the second fight. And Conor actually, or excuse me, Dustin actually admitted there was one point in the first round where he was hurt. And he was like, if Connor followed up, I might have been in trouble. But that might be Dustin also saying, I would like that rematch. Yeah, he knows what's up. And he also might want that rematch. I think, yeah, look at it.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And this pains me to say this. I think you've got to take Connor out of the equation. He's out. Let me throw one more variable. Go ahead. The COVID restrictions get lifted. Dublin, Ireland. Soccer stadium.
Starting point is 00:50:34 No, hear me out here, dude. And it pains me to say this. I love where your head's at. You've got to take Conor out of the equation for the race for the title. What you're going to have is Charles Oliveira, Dustin Pore michael chandler justin gaethje yes and then connor they're over here they're out of the tournament you're you're gonna have connor versus nate diaz trilogy in dublin go ahead and do that but they're not in the race for the time well connor versus nate diaz is an excellent option it's an excellent option because that doesn't offend anyone like myself. They both have time off.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Yeah, give them some time off. It doesn't offend anyone. And Nate is not the kind of kicker that Dustin is. He's much more of a boxer. It falls into Conor's wheelhouse more. And Nate is also insanely durable. And Nate also has a finish over Conor. Conor does not have a finish over nate and at
Starting point is 00:51:26 55 is where this thing should be settled yes and you do that in dublin but they're out of the conversation of title titles charles olivera justin gaethje michael chandler yes that's what a lot of people are very offended that charles that excuse me that uh michael chandler gets an immediate jump right into almost title contention with one knockout over Dan Hooker. But then you don't know the history of Michael Chandler. That's true, but then— You're talking about a former multi-time world champion, Bellator, fighting the who's who over there, had a finish over Ben Henderson.
Starting point is 00:51:55 But Patricio Pitbull knocked him out how long ago? Yeah, and who's a smaller guy, but he also has a win over him too. Well, no, he has a win over his brother. No, that's right. Patricio win over his brother no that's right patricky yeah that's right he KO'd his brother and then patricio uh uh got revenge but he's a two division champion in bellator yeah that guy that guy is legit oh yeah he's he's legit he's like one of those guys who could make it over in the ufc come over the ufc easily yeah the other one is lima. Lima are the two guys. Him and Lima are the two.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And, of course, Mousasi. You know, Mousasi is 100% legit. Mousasi might be the best 185-pounder in the world that's not in the UFC. I mean, he's the Bellator champion. I mean, I don't see anybody in any other organization that could fuck with Mousasi. I think he's so goddamn skillful.
Starting point is 00:52:43 And you see the way he beat Lima. He beat Lima in a fight where Lima had his leg in real fucking trouble. For sure. Real trouble. But he outpointed Lima. I'm a big Musashi nut rider. I love Musashi. And I'm a big Lima nut rider, too.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yes. Stylebender would knock Musashi out in two rounds. Really? 110%. And I love Musashi. How great would that Really? 110%. And I love Musashi. How great would that fight be? I guess I'm into it. I'm into Stylebender versus Jan.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Have you seen that card? Jan Bohovic. That makes my day card. Jan Bohovic is a monster at 205. You want to talk about a guy who is depleting himself to make weight? That Polish power? His power is preposterous. It's preposterous. you think he hit stylebender
Starting point is 00:53:26 listen now you know i'm a connor nut rider i i'm fucking bukkake stylebender guy like if aliens came like hey so who's the best i'm showing them stylebender well i think when you look at his fight with paulo costa there is no doubt he's i've said this before i'll say it again the most sophisticated striker in the sport ever. The best we've ever seen. Ever. Hands down. Ever.
Starting point is 00:53:49 The most complex. Wonderboy close second. Well, Wonderboy had a totally different kind of style, right? Because it was weird. Karate style, sideways stance, the best front leg stylist ever. His movement, his hands down. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Stylebender and Wonderboy as far as pure strikers. But Styleb versus jan you know i think stylebender is a favorite and then he should be yeah he should be but i don't think he's gonna defend like the belt there i don't see that happening he might he says he wants to go all the way up to heavyweight and fuck john jones up i know he keeps saying they came on food truck and he's like dude you keep saying i'm too small he's like i'm pretty big i was like you're pretty fucking big. He was taller than me. Yeah. By an inch. 6'4". 6'4".
Starting point is 00:54:27 6'4"-ish, 6'4 1⁄2". Yeah. And he doesn't want to put any weight on, which is interesting. He wants that speed. Yeah. Well, he also says- Have you seen John lately, though? He looks so big.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Oh, he's so juicy. He looks so big. He's jacked. He looks so big. Yeah. All he's doing is powerlifting. And he's getting the winner of Francis for steep A. Yes. That's a dangerous fight. Francis is the favorite in that. He's so big. Yeah, all he's doing is powerlifting. And he's getting the winner of Francis for Stipe. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:46 That's a dangerous fight. Francis is the favorite in that. He's so dangerous right now. You know that? Francis is the favorite. Francis is the favorite of almost any human being if he catches you on the chin. Is he the favorite over John if they fight, you think? Here's the thing with Francis. Here's where Francis becomes the favorite, if they do it at the Apex Center.
Starting point is 00:55:03 You're saying with no crowd? No, that fucking small ring. The small octagon is a big difference, man. becomes a favorite if they do it at the Apex Center. You're saying with no crowd? No, that fucking small ring. The small octagon's a big difference, man. See, I feel like that's more advantage for Johnny. He's going to take him down. Stipe. Oh, you're saying Stipe.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Oh, word. This is why it's dangerous. You can't get away from him. It's harder to move away. What Stipe has to do in that fight is he has to be mobile, and he has to figure out a way to get out of the big shots, get out of the way of the big shots, and then implement his takedown game. You know, I know I had Justin Wren on the podcast the other day, and Justin was talking about how Stipe wanted to bring him into his camp.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I told Justin, like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, Justin's got fucked up knees. He's got a fucked up neck. He's got fucked up shoulders, and he just got stem cells shot in Justin's like always got a girl the time shit and like always He had cerebral malaria He had malaria in his brain quick on Africa did he had parasites in his body that fucked him up for how many years Jamie? We talked about this
Starting point is 00:56:01 Quick on that do it from the do from on wordsward Years and years and years Of his body being destroyed By parasites He's had like a real problem Over there And still thick Malaria three times Yeah Still thick
Starting point is 00:56:12 Yeah still thick But the point is I've told him like You're always creating These new problems In your life Don't Don't
Starting point is 00:56:19 While you're in the middle Of healing Go do a fucking Training camp With a heavyweight Champion of the world Has he been training No
Starting point is 00:56:24 He gets fucked up dude Yes And Stipe listen i've been in training camp with you but he's a motherfucker he's a motherfucker he's gonna ragdoll you around justin well also he stipe is what 38 now yeah and he's got to know this is his last run you know big time yeah and and francis and if he can beat francis for a second time and prove the odds makers wrong, because I believe he was the underdog in the first fight as well. So if he can give a big fuck you to all these people making the odds, and then he goes down in history as the greatest of all time. I think he already goes down in history as at least the most accomplished heavyweight in the UFC of all time.
Starting point is 00:57:05 That's a good way to put it. The most accomplished. Because if gun to the head, if it's a prime Cain Velasquez. Gun to the head, I like prime Cain over everybody that's ever lived. Ever. Ever. Ever. I don't know why he doesn't get more respect.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Well, people forget. It's like Roy Jones' song, Y'all Must Have Forgot. Y'all Must Have Forgot. Yeah. Cain was a motherfucker. His cardio was, it doesn't make sense. It didn't make sense. He had cardio like a flyweight, and Kane was a motherfucker. His cardio, it doesn't make sense. It didn't make sense. He had cardio like a flyweight, and he was 240 pounds.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And when he fucked up Brock Lesnar, when he fucked up Ben Rothwell. How about JDS in the rematch? Oh, yeah, dude. He's like, oh, yeah, you clipped me behind the ear. Watch this. And took years off JDS. JDS was never the same. For sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I mean, he's... And then the other rematch. Dude. Yeah, he batter I mean, he's... And then the other rematch. Dude. Yeah, he battered him. It's horrific. What Kane used to do to people was hit them with a pace that no other human being that's a heavyweight other than Kane Velasquez could maintain.
Starting point is 00:57:56 And I don't think we'll ever see that type of cardio ever again. Special individual. I think he's just uniquely talented. Yep, me too. And also, his mind was so fucking strong and the mind being so fucking strong is one of the reasons why his body started blowing apart agree because like his shoulders his neck his back his knees like everything started going eventually and that's when he stopped being cain velasquez when you talk to dc about it you've
Starting point is 00:58:21 had dc in here but you just talk you know You work with DC, you son of a bitch. We've tried to make it happen for him to come in here, but we never figured it out. I love DC. But you talked to DC, who was his main training partner. When Stipe and DC fought that rematch to go down as the greatest heavyweight of all time, ask DC who's the best fighter. Ask how the rounds went with him and Kane. You hear those stories, and you're like, what? Yeah, he said it publicly.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Yeah, so that's where I'm at with it. He's like, I don't think I can beat that dude. It'd be tough. Yeah. The other guy's Fedor. I'm not as high on Fedor. Oh, man. Fedor when he fought Crow Cop.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Fedor when he fought Noguera. Fedor when he was the fucking man. He was unstoppable. And he was a unique combination of a guy who could finish you off his back with arm bars as well as smash you on his feet. Yep. He was so goddamn good. See, I think that GOAT, and they do it in basketball all the time with LeBron and Jordan,
Starting point is 00:59:18 and they do it in football with Tom Brady and these other guys. It's tough to say greatest of all time. It's the greatest of that time period. That's more fair. Yes. Because when Fedor is fighting, listen, it's tough to say greatest of all time it's it's the greatest of that time period that's more fair yes because when fedor is fighting listen it's the wild west yes has fedor had some weird russian shit in his ass from needles i don't know i don't know yes after watching the documentary um icarus from brian fogel where they talked about how there was a state-sponsored doping program where all of the Olympic athletes, I mean, Brian Fogle was just on the podcast recently,
Starting point is 00:59:49 he talked about the only people they didn't dope was the figure skaters. So would Fader maybe? Well, the figure skaters, it doesn't help. It didn't help. This is small movements. Like, we didn't need to help them. But to Fader's defense, the guys he was fighting were all on the same ship, too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:04 So that's a time period man It's like when Lance Armstrong Was competing in Tour de France They're all doing it Everybody was doing it They're all still on bikes Bill Burr has a fantastic bit About him
Starting point is 01:00:13 So does Tony Does Tony Yeah About Lance Armstrong Yeah bike riding No about transgender Oh that's right Yeah but
Starting point is 01:00:21 Cycling yeah that's right Yes yes That's that Rachel McKinnon I love it Yeah it's a great bit and and this is also true like what are we doing i know yeah there's there's a thing about these sports where everybody knows they're dirty like that's like if let's say like you want to talk about the greatest bodybuilders of all time you got your ronnie coleman's your lee haney's you know know, you got your... Arnold. Arnold, you know, there's... Jay Cutler, Phil Heath. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Dorian Yates. Dutcher Jackson. Dorian Yates was the king of... I mean, all those guys. You look at Yates and Schwarzenegger and Coleman and, like, who's the greatest of all time? I don't know. What if one of them tested positive for steroids? Like, well, you got to take him out of the mix.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Oh, come on. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck, come on. That's what it's like with cycling. Yeah. It's like you can't do that. If you say, well, Lance tested positive. We're going to take away his title.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Fuck you. Well, it's the same with Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa in baseball. You don't think the pitchers were on shit, you idiots? They were all on shit. They were all on something. Everybody was on something. So it goes by time period. Yeah, it's a weird thing, right?
Starting point is 01:01:22 It's like you can't really have a greatest of all time. goes by time period yeah it's a weird thing right it's like you can't really have a greatest of all time also in fighting the other problem is you you don't have much time you know you have a few years at the the very that the peak rpms a we could really handle the that the fucking the hard camps and the drop off three four fights a year. Your sport is about destroying bodies. There's only so much the body can take. It's a tough fucking gig, man. What did you think about Holloway not sparring for Calvin Cain? I love it.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I love it, too. It's smart. But all the big boy sports that have been around forever, they don't really beat up their bodies in training. They're so smart about it. Now. Like Ohio State, they don't do that. Michigan, you know, the NFL teams, they save it for when it counts yeah and then you look at the ufc and guys are just blast each other in the face it's just such a meathead thing to do
Starting point is 01:02:13 so i think with max holly having such good performance it's kind of like when gsp came out and we found out about his uh kind of camp and how he's doing all this stuff and taking care of his body and you know doing gymnastics and then this wave of people started to take it more professionally. I think that's what Max Holloway's doing saying, I didn't spar. Can you look that fucking good? I know I'm tough. I know I can take hits.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Just about timing, stuff like that. Well, the ties. I talked to John Wayne Parr about his time training in Thailand. He's like, one of the things that's really interesting is the way the Thai spar, they just play tag. Yep. They're not cracking each other. It doesn't make sense, man.
Starting point is 01:02:50 It doesn't make sense. And they play. They're just trying to get their timing down. They're just trying to, ah, gotcha. You know, they're just trying to find openings. And they're doing it with the elite fighters in the gym where either guy could destroy the other guy's legs and head and body. And you're kicking each other and kneeing each other and elbowing each other.
Starting point is 01:03:09 It doesn't make sense to just go to war all the time. I think once you get to enough experience, you can do that. If you're an up-and-comer, you've got to pay your dues. But I think once you get a certain level, you can do that. You most certainly have to get accustomed to getting hit. Correct. You know if it's for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:21 And see, that's where I'm at. I'd love to get your opinion on this with the Jake Paul and Ben Askren. Okay. I know if it's for you. Yeah. And see, that's where I'm at. I'd love to get your opinion on this with like the Jake Paul and Ben Askren. Okay. This is my- Because I take some offense to it because all my friends, when that got announced, went, oh, Ben's getting it knocked out. And I was like, what? Like, that's weird to say because let me just, let's say you don't know who Jake Paul or
Starting point is 01:03:42 Ben Askren is and I give you their resumes. Okay. Let me go through the resumes. Okay, let's go through. So let's go through this kid, Fighter A. He was an Olympian wrestler. He was a two-time national champion wrestler. He won the Heisman in college Division I wrestling.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Hold on, are they wrestling? They're not wrestling. I'm glad you asked that. So that Fighter A that has all those wrestling accolades he's a hall of famer so he fought in a steel cage in one championship big organization he was world champion there was he a striker he wasn't but he still won oh did good question striking at all no good question he didn't really stand up much right not a lot but i'm glad you asked that because then he went over to bellator right second biggest organization in the world he fought the guy he loved douglas lima yes five rounds didn't get knocked out yes but he just wrestled him yeah but still didn't get knocked out of course cough another killer a killer right ragdolled him
Starting point is 01:04:33 killer but they didn't strike he didn't strike with him at all but didn't get knocked out right and they're in foreign clubs so yeah so uh two-time world champion different divisions and then he goes to ufc well he went to to one FC before that. Yeah, but I'm just saying he was champ in both those. Right, but he went to champ in one FC as well, where they allowed him to take guys down and knee them in the face when they were on the ground. For sure. Didn't get knocked out there. Undefeated. Also took guys down and didn't stand
Starting point is 01:04:56 up with anybody. These are great points. So then he goes over to the UFC. He goes over to the UFC, fights a guy in Robbie Lawler. Yes. Tough character. Beat him. Didn't get knocked out. Controversial beating. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. I feel like
Starting point is 01:05:12 Robbie got fucked there. But then he fought Jorge Mazzone and got starched. But there's this narrative on Fighter A, aka Ben Askren, where awful striking and he did get knocked out by Jorge. I get all that. You're talking about an Olympian, a bona fide hall of famer mixed martial artist yeah that mentality and now all right that meant so there's fighter a let me be fighter b that we don't know about
Starting point is 01:05:35 fighter b youtube star youtube star did some wrestling in high school says he ran a 4 4 40 i'm not calling jake paul a liar but i am saying his gym coach who timed that is a liar. Okay? That never happened. I've been around the game a long time. A 4-4 is very highly unlikely. His gym coach lied to him. But also, he's 2-0,
Starting point is 01:05:57 and you say, well, who did he beat up? Well, he beat up another YouTuber, and they beat up a basketball player that won a slam dunk contest who has never fought before. Who would you pick in that? Well, one thing that I don't believe is that Ben Askren would knock out Nate Robinson the way that Jake Paul did. He would beat him. He might beat him.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Guarantee you beat him. He might beat him. Ben is not an explosive guy. Not at all. He's very good at utilizing his superior wrestling knowledge, positions, and technique. Wearing out, annoying, heavy, strong as fuck. Terrible body. He knows how to grab a hold of guys and drag you to the ground and implement his style.
Starting point is 01:06:42 He won't be able to do that. So his main thing will be out. His main thing will be completely removed. Wrestling. Yes. But the tie-ups and that Olympian mentality that made him a two-time world champion to the biggest organization in the world is still there. There's no doubt. And he has a new hip.
Starting point is 01:07:00 But he's got a month. And he has a new hip. Yeah, but that takes a long time to heal from. Yeah. And he has a month. Mm-hmm. He's got a month and he has a new hip yeah but that takes a long time to heal from yeah and he has a month he's got a month to train it's not listen now i'm not saying ben's gonna win but all i'm saying is it's well ben it's crazy it's crazy to me we're just all like oh ben's gonna get knocked down like he's in a fucking olympian right this guy's a youtuber now granted, Jake does have some skills that we know of from Nate Robinson and this other YouTuber.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Well, not just that. You can watch him hit the bag, watch him hit pads. You can watch him spar. He's got good timing. He's got very good hand speed. His technique is excellent. He's got very good striking technique. And for me, this fight gets interesting.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Let's say it goes past the third round. What's Jake look like when there's a little bit of adversity you know when he can't knock out ben then what do we get yeah yeah or that's where i'm at on it yeah i mean but just to say that jake's gonna start him is insane to me um i'm gonna watch i'll take my fucking money i'm gonna watch it's the perfect opponent for jake too yeah what do you think about logan his brother logan box and floyd mayweather that's have you heard about that yes he got delayed because they're because they did like this weird paper i think there's two reasons why it didn't sell well and that's why he got pushed because it didn't sell well so they did this weird pay-per-view thing where if you bought it early it was like 14.99
Starting point is 01:08:22 if you bought a month later it's 29.99 if you wait till the night of the fight it's 69.99 americans and the world's not used to that pay-per-view platform i don't know what the fuck i'm i don't know when it is but i don't know what i'm doing on that february night i'm gonna wait till that night so they they they based it off the sales pre-sales and they pushed it because the sales weren't there the interest isn't there right now but that's just because people don't pay for things in advance i know figure it out now if it was like 50 people that bought it all right there's probably not a lot of interest but i don't know how many people bought it but you know i'm i'm curious i'm more curious with jake and ben well if i was logan i would love the fact that they pushed it because that would give him more time to train because it's just a
Starting point is 01:09:01 time thing and he's still fucked right yeah it doesn't matter literally fighting it doesn't matter the best boxer ever right or one of he's certainly in the argument is the best boxer ever you know it's like the guy could use a couple of years of real training just to be competitive they're not gonna push it years he's way bigger though that's the thing he's way bigger than floyd way bigger than floyd isn't it weird we're breaking this down 2021 it's funny it's funny and people are mad like look the guy's got balls he's willing to fight he's willing to fight literally the best boxer of all time yeah it's a freak show but guess what fucking fedor fought hong man choy okay you know we've seen this before shows forever people forget kimbo was this early on. Kimbo was kind of this. He was a big YouTube star.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Sure. Then we came to the UFC. He still had haters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a little difference there, but Kimbo's a lot older. Yep, yep. Good point. They threw him to the dogs.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Good points. Well, they wanted to make it hard for him. That's for sure. That's a shame. They did him wrong. They did him wrong. Do you think that he would have been better off if he fought? Well, he did fight in Elite XC. And was winning. They were giving him think that he would have been better off if he fought Well he did fight in Elite XE
Starting point is 01:10:05 And was winning Well until Seth Petruzzelli came around I remember that fight Remember how that went down though Supposed to fight Ken Shamrock And Ken Shamrock wasn't getting enough money He cut himself in the back And then he came to Kimbo
Starting point is 01:10:19 Like here's Seth Now if you know fighting like Seth is a bit of a beast especially in training We know he's a motherfucker If he gets his head right he's a a dangerous dude. Kimbo's team doesn't know. They're like, all right, yeah, give us that fuck with the purple Mohawk. He gets starched. Dude, I was in Georgia and I was backstage and I just got off stage. I was working at the punch line in Atlanta and I just got off stage and I got off stage and I was ready to see Ken Shamrock fight Kimbo.
Starting point is 01:10:47 And I looked up. There's a video of it. There's a video of me calling the fight. Saying Seth's going to knock him out? I said Seth's going to fuck him up. I never say this. I'm like Seth's going to fuck him up. You never say that.
Starting point is 01:10:57 And he knocked him out in like 20 seconds or whatever it was. But I'm like, I told you. And I'm like, Kimbo's a bad motherfucker. Rest rest in peace he was a great guy too but it was just it was a bad matchup but seth petruzzelli nightmare dude nightmare and in that time during that time period seth petruzzelli was in his prime yeah yeah but also even kimbo like when he was an ultimate fighter like it was all predicted like it was all already arranged that he was going to lose in the first round like they they set him and roy up yeah like dana took rashad and rampage in the back and they came out like he's fighting roy i'm like that makes no sense yeah all right
Starting point is 01:11:35 they just want him to lose and roy gets him in that crucifix and you get him you get down kimbo's face is like oh fuck yeah it's like yeah dude you became an ultimate fighter. They control this, man. That has got to be one of the most frustrating positions to try to get out of in an MMA fight. That crucifix with Roy? Oh, my God. Nightmare. Especially because he's so heavy. 250 pounds on your face, maybe even more.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Even more, yeah. And tying you up and tying your legs up, and your face is just wide open. And now imagine Kimbo, you're a white belt. Yeah. And you're lost, dude. You're lost you're lost lost yeah yeah it was a shame they shouldn't have done that to him what do you think they should have done though um if i'm kimbo i mean you know it's good for me because now i got my career that he was the biggest ultimate fighter ever he should have came to the ufc as almost a regular guy or just done his thing and controlled the matchup so he got more experience and then came to the UFC.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Because when you're in the UFC and they're trying to prove a point against you, which doesn't make sense to me. It's the same thing with Conor. I don't know how you feel about this, but it's obviously easier to say in hindsight now, but Conor fighting Dustin Poirier after basically only fighting, what, five rounds in four years? Doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:12:43 You know how the game works. I know a lot of guys are like, oh, ring rust isn't real i beg to differ dude and for connor to take all that time off and he has all these other businesses going on he beat serrani so we're like oh he's ready to go serrani's a little older and then fights dust and poison the number two lightweight in the world like that that's not the move man his team should have been smart about it what do you think they should have done fought nate diaz the trilogy get that win hope you know his chances of winning that fight are way better than beating dustin poirier this fucking dog who's been in the game and lives eats and sleeps fucking in the lightweight division should have fought another guy who's had time off you know and they figure out together in there i don't know if he
Starting point is 01:13:23 wins that that's a tough fight for him too but what you what you're doing is in hindsight you you fucked up the business plan man because now connor sort of you have to well you got to take a chance right the chance we don't need to take the wins if he beats dustin he's in line for for a shot at the title but he could say md on crown champ yeah yeah but there's better ways to go about it because we can still get there but we can do this over here to get make sure he's he's at his peak when he by the time he gets there but isn't this monday morning quarterbacking because what i said in hindsight if he knocks out dustin poirier he's the fucking man and he knocked out dustin before many years ago obviously but if he he felt like he could do it again, yeah, you've got to give him a chance.
Starting point is 01:14:05 He also needs a challenge. I think a guy like Conor. Nate Diaz isn't a challenge, though? He is a challenge. Big time. But Nate Diaz is not even necessarily willing to fight him. Oh, yeah, he is. Nate hasn't fought in forever.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Because Nate's waiting for that Conor fight. Well, last time Nate fought, he fought Madison Square Garden against Masvidal for the BMF. That was a tough one. But again, you're talking about a Nate who's had time off fighting a motherfucker. What's happening here? That's Jake training with Masvidal. No way. Apparently, Nate wants to fight him. Nate has two fights left in his
Starting point is 01:14:39 UFC contract. He wants to fight Masvidal? Who wants to fight him? No, no, no. Nate wants to fight Jake Paul. That's hilarious. See, Jake hasake has to be careful though because he's stepping into the real world of yes of fighters with ben askren who's a hall of famer you beat him where do you go from there no celebrity no nba guy's gonna fight you because you just beat a real guy yeah now you're fighting guys like nate diaz that can't be good no yeah well you, well, you know, I feel like that kid could fight. Which one? Jake Paul.
Starting point is 01:15:10 And if he wanted to fight and just be a regular boxer, I think he'd have a real chance at having a career in boxing. Now, would he get the kind of attention he's getting right now after a knockout of an NBA player? No. It would be a slow build. But I'm looking at his skills. If he wasn't a big YouTube, like famous, he went to Trish.
Starting point is 01:15:27 You're looking at, what, 10 years? You're looking at some time. I mean, I don't know how much time he spent boxing before he had those two fights. How much time did he spend striking? Two years. That's it? Two or three years, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:40 But he was no training before that? Nothing? Did some wrestling. When did his brother have his first fight with KSI? When was that? That was the first fight he had, right? Yeah. They had a draw, and then he lost the decision, right?
Starting point is 01:15:51 Mm-hmm. And that was, when did that start? Was that two years ago? Two years ago? Yeah. Three years ago? But I got to think he was training before that. They're athletic kids, man.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Yeah, they are. So if they put their mind to something, they're going to go pretty far. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, you know, if you looked at him as just a boxing contender, it would be like, I'll keep an eye on that kid. We'll see where he goes. But that's not where he's at, unfortunately. No, exactly.
Starting point is 01:16:14 That's my point. It's a double-edged sword. It's the Kimbo Slice thing where you're going to run into somebody, and it happened to me, too. I was more athletic than a lot of these guys, and you get so far, and then you meet a vet who's like you're athletic yeah cool man you have a heavy right hand all right cool i've seen this before dude you know you're gonna run into a real vet and that's gonna happen eventually undeniably it's gonna happen to these guys oh for sure greg hardy yeah so but you're talking about an all pro nfl player dude yeah fucking freak but it doesn't matter man
Starting point is 01:16:46 there's not enough time in the day to get the skills that's going to take for you to be to ovarine to be to francis to be to curtis blades no matter how much it doesn't matter who's your coach it doesn't matter how many times you train today you're never going to get there ever you're just not i feel like with greg hardy he almost would be better off in just striking. It almost seems like with a guy like that, like, you know, he got taken down. And who just took him down and mauled him? The Polish cat. Yes.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Tybura? Yes. Marcin Tybura. There was nothing on the ground. Nothing. Like, no proper framing, shrimping. Like, day one shit. I had no idea what to do.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Yes. I feel like a guy like that, it's like he's got so much to learn, it's almost not even possible. It's not. But you can fuck a lot of people up standing. And that's good. So you're always going to be around that, you know, 10 to 20 range. You're never going to crack those top guys, ever. It seems like at 30...
Starting point is 01:17:41 And I know it sounds like I'm being negative, but it's just not. We're just looking at... It's almost like you're looking at mathematics right you're looking at the amount of time that it takes to develop a skill there's not enough hours in the day there was uh one of um without naming them there's a guy that i knew that was a black belt in jujitsu who was going to take on an mma fight and i know he was doing no striking at all and uh he was just starting to do some striking to prepare for an MMA fight that was a couple months away and I was like you gotta not do this you gotta not do this and he's like why I go
Starting point is 01:18:14 because what you can do to people on the ground someone can do to you standing up you have to understand this like I know you think you're really good because you're really good at jiu-jitsu yes so you have this idea that I'm a guy who fucks people up i go but there are things that happen when you're doing stand-up there's there's places that people can put you in that are real similar to places you could put people on the ground where they just have no chance they have no chance and the fight starts on the feet and those guys that can put you in those positions on the feet can negate what you want to do on the ground. Yeah, because a lot of those guys.
Starting point is 01:18:46 You're never going to get them there, dude. Yeah, and they know how to stop takedowns. Yeah. And you're not a wrestler. It's not like an elite wrestler. Again, your ceiling's here. No matter how much you do it, you can box with everyone, Jason Perillo, Mark Henry, doesn't matter. Your ceiling's here, dude.
Starting point is 01:19:01 So you can do it, but there's a ceiling. it matter your ceiling's here dude strike so you can do it yeah but there's a ceiling and striking such a weird thing too because like if you were a guy like here's one of the reasons why i'm skeptical about ben askren because he's not he's not explosive he's not fast it's not a fast guy there's some guys that get into striking even as wrestlers with, with no striking history, but they pick it up really quickly. They just have speed. They just have speed and power. They know how to do it. And there's other guys you look at and you're like, this is never going to work.
Starting point is 01:19:33 You don't have enough time. There's not enough time in your life. You literally needed to learn when your body was growing, and you didn't. And now you're doomed. It's not going to happen. And to be negative like that, people are like, well, how can you say that? I know. But you can say that.
Starting point is 01:19:49 They can learn. I'm like, you got to realize the guys ahead of them are so far ahead, unless they have a time machine, it's just, that's the analytics man. You learn certain things while your body's maturing. If you look at a guy like Floyd Mayweather who learned boxing when he was a child, if you look at there's a lot of kickboxers that learn striking, whether they start out in kilkishin
Starting point is 01:20:11 or Muay Thai or whatever it is, they start out so young, their body develops with that ability and you're not going to learn that. You're not going to be able to do what they do. And if you're fighting in a limited sport a sport with limited rules like whether it's kickboxing or whether it's boxing where you only can do this one thing like you like you're gonna fight a guy like if you're
Starting point is 01:20:35 gonna fight a guy like uh like a conor mcgregor or a guy who's a like a legitimate striker who's really good at this one thing like and it's, it's going to take you forever to get that good. Yeah. Yeah, again, it sounds like we're being negative. But also, as you mentioned earlier, your career is pretty finite. No one's doing this for 10, 15 years unless you're a complete fucking freak. The majority, I think the average career is like, I don't know what it is now. It used to be a year and a half.
Starting point is 01:20:59 How crazy is Diego Sanchez? The fact that he's still doing it. He's still doing it. And he said he wants to have one more fight but he said it's the is you know his time is now to heal it's not to fight i'm like if you say that shouldn't just stop but i think he just wants to go out on a good performance or something like that yeah hopefully the ufc does him a favor gives him a good opponent you know again it's all in hindsight we're monday morning uh armchair quarterback here.
Starting point is 01:21:25 But, you know, that's why Conor, he knew that the timing in the ring rest was going to be an issue. So he begged Dana and the UFC for fights. And he leaked those tweets out saying he wanted to fight Diego. And everyone's making fun of him. He's like, I don't give a fuck who it is. Diego said he was down. I'm just trying to get in there before I have to face the number two guy in the world. Well, if Conor fought Diego, that would actually be a good fight for Conor to get in there before I have to face an M2 guy in the world. Well, if Conor fought Diego,
Starting point is 01:21:45 that would actually be a good fight for Conor to get tuned up, right? That's what I'm saying. You don't get that in MMA. And that's Conor's thinking. Everyone made fun of him. But I think fighters, like, yeah, that makes sense. He's trying to get used to the lights, you know, flying, the bust of the stadium, like getting used to all those nerves.
Starting point is 01:22:04 That's what he was doing there. And we all made fun fun of him but i think you notice most fighters didn't make fun of him fighters like yeah that makes sense well it's just smart because that's what they've been doing in boxing forever you know boxing doing football they in every major sport we do this yeah that's what they do man yeah but in in boxing you have to fight you know the mandatory contenders and sometimes those mandatory contenders they don't really belong in there, and everybody's like, but we should be fighting Joshua. It should be Fury versus Joshua. We've got to make this fight happen, and then Fury's like,
Starting point is 01:22:35 let me get some rounds in. Let me tune this guy up, get under the lights, feel the pressure, and then I'll go there. Yeah, let me get some rounds in. They know what they're doing. They do know what they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing. Everyone made fun of Conor for it.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Well, UFC's never going to allow that. If you're a superstar, you're fighting top-level fighters because that's where the money is. And it's a shame, man, because you're cutting your own tail there. Because you could have really melt Conor out, dude. Diego, Nate Diaz, and then he fights for a title. All right, let's imagine that Dana White dies in a fiery plane crash, and they call you up like, look, Dana, you make,
Starting point is 01:23:11 Dana was a great promoter, but Brandon Schaub, you make a lot of sense. And we'd like to reformat the way we do things, and I think you should be the new head of the UFC. My life's too good to take on that job. Be a beast. But I would definitely do things different as far as that stuff. Do you think that would be possible to keep the same revenue models? Because they're making a lot of money right now.
Starting point is 01:23:37 We're going to make more money, dude. You think so? Yeah, we're going to drain Conor for everything that we can out of him. He's fighting Diego. He's fighting Nate Diaz. Then he's fighting this guy. Do you know what kind of resistance they would have if Conor McGregor fought Diego Sanchez? All the fucking athletic commissions would be like, no.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Oh, get out of here. I fought Roy Nelson. I had two fights. He had 30. That's true. But that was a long time ago. Yeah. You think now?
Starting point is 01:24:01 Oh, you think Abu Dhabi gives a flying fuck? Abu Dhabi? Abu Dhabi gives a flying fuck? No. Abu Dhabi does not give a flying fuck. It's the Wild West, baby. Do they even have like- Have you ever heard of a commission out there? Yeah. I mean-
Starting point is 01:24:14 What do they have over there? I don't know. We're going to do it on a boat if we want. Yeah, they could do it on a boat. They're talking about it. Really? They're talking about Joshua Fury on a boat. Like an aircraft carrier?
Starting point is 01:24:24 Yeah, big ass boat. And then only having having the lead of the lead pay for tickets, and tickets are like $25,000 apiece. But what if the water gets rocky? Real Lionheart shit. What if the water gets rocky, and you're moving around, and it just leaves you this way? You're making too much sense here. You want to see the fight or not, dude? I do want to see the fight.
Starting point is 01:24:40 How fun would it be if they're all rocking back and forth? That shit would be sick. It would be so crazy just for historic purposes. Just for the historic. Well, we got to look at the weather, the calm waters. We got to talk to some real fucking seed guys, you know? Yeah, but you have to have the people out there too. You have to have an audience.
Starting point is 01:24:57 So if you're going to have to have an audience, like they got to know where to go. Like you can't just tell me you're going to tell me where to go when you know where the fucking sea is going to be calm, bitch. Listen, man. You want the fight or fucking not, Joe? You're making too much sense here, dude. It happened in Gangs of New York. I was just watching it.
Starting point is 01:25:10 They had Leonardo DiCaprio's character figured out, like, move offshore. You'll be fine. Just fight there. What did they do in Gangs of New York offshore? They were doing all sorts of fighting. Yeah, they were fighting, yeah. Really? Yeah, it's a very part you's a part you don't like learn about
Starting point is 01:25:25 i don't remember that it's early i haven't seen that movie in so long the butcher i loved it when i saw it have you ever seen a photo of the real uh bill the butcher oh there's a real guy bill the butcher there's a real bill the butcher have you ever seen jamie did daniel day-lilis win a oscar for that god it's fucking he certainly should mean, I don't know if he did. It was a drawing, I guess, right? No, no, no. It was a photograph. No way. It was a photograph of...
Starting point is 01:25:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The real Bill, did he... I got it, I guess, but that's... You got it? This doesn't make sense. Let me see if you got it. Yep, that's him. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:25:59 That's the real Bill the Butcher. Yeah. That is the real guy. I mean, look at his fucking top hat and shit. And that was from the Bowery Boys in New York City. Dude, New York City was literally like a Wild West town at one point in time where they really did have wars where they fought each other with axes and fucking giant knives and shit.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Insane. Yeah. Like, all that shit was real. Well, that's going to be my next tattoo. Isn't that crazy? Bill Cutting. That was his name. Wow. Yeah. Look at the photo of him in the lower right-hand corner right there, Jamie, with the hat right my next tattoo. Isn't that crazy? Bill Cutting. That was his name. Wow.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Yeah, look at the photo of him in the lower right-hand corner right there, Jamie, with the hat. Yeah, look at that. Look at that face, man. That's some style to him, too. He wore that hat all the time. You got to figure their hats were stinky. They always wore hats all the time, right?
Starting point is 01:26:36 They take it off, they're all sweaty. If you were a baller, you wore a hat back then. Yeah, man. Like, if you were a gentleman. Like, think. He's got a butcher's robe on. Show the full picture again Below that Jamie They wear a lot of suits too
Starting point is 01:26:46 Yeah So look at this He's got this butcher's robe With a meat saw And a cleaver And a knife That's strapped to his waist And he's got a top hat on
Starting point is 01:26:58 Like he's out At a formal gathering Like how strange He's slanging dick William Poole A.K.A. Bill the Butcher In 1850 In New York City
Starting point is 01:27:09 Wow Wild shit man I had no idea that was a real guy It's a real guy Yeah that That movie Was at least loosely based On reality
Starting point is 01:27:20 You know what I saw Another movie that's loosely based on reality I watched the other day While I was working out Is The Revenant. How good that movie is. Leonardo DiCaprio wins a fucking Oscar for not speaking.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Oh my God. Really? You're getting the award for that? All the movies? Yeah, but you believed in not speaking. God, it was good. When that bear eats some ass first. Yeah. All the battles with the Indians.
Starting point is 01:27:48 How did Tom Hardy not win an award? God, he was fucking good in that. He's good in everything. Everything. He's good in Venom, which is a goofy movie. You know, he only did Venom because his kids. Really? Yeah, he's like, my kids don't watch my movies.
Starting point is 01:28:00 They're too serious. So when I got a Marvel thing, they were like, Dad, Venom's awesome. He's like, really? He didn't even know what it was. were like, Dad, Venom's awesome. He's like, really? He didn't even know what it was. And they're like, you should do it. He's like, all right, I'll do it. That's hilarious. Just to make his kids happy.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Really? Oh, that's cool. I like that. Yeah, it's badass. I like that. I like that. He's fantastic. He really is.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Yeah. You ever see the videos of him training for Warrior? Warrior? Yeah. No, I heard he was on a bunch of Juicy Juice. Oh, he had to be. Yeah. The funny thing is
Starting point is 01:28:25 Do you ever look at the YouTube channel More Plates More Dates More Plates More Dates is an interesting channel He's a meathead chemist A brilliant guy who's also a meathead And he breaks down A lot of Stuff with guys using
Starting point is 01:28:42 Tests He's real honest about stuff He's honest about his own use, steroid use, cycles stuff with guys using tests. Oh, sick. Yeah, I mean, he's real honest about stuff. He's honest about his own use, steroid use, cycles, and stuff like that. He was breaking down these video clips of Tom. That's him. Great hair. Yeah, and that's Tom Hardy. That's what he used to look like.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Yeah. Holy fuck. Remember when he did the Bronson? Look at that. He was juicy for Bronson. Yes. Well, he goes the Bronson? Look at that. He was juicy for Bronson. Yes. Well, he goes through it. This guy, Derek from More Plates, More Dates. Oh, he goes through his.
Starting point is 01:29:11 Goes through his whole career, like how he started getting thicker. And then all of a sudden, right before Bronson, and then here he is in Bronson, he got pretty thick. But then in Warrior, literally looked like. Holy fuck. See, he starts Warrior on the left, but now go deeper into it when you see him in Warrior. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was that one photo of him. Holy fuck, dude.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Like, look at the size of those fucking traps. Like, look at him there. Like, come on, dude. I mean, he's... I don't think he's denying it, though. No. Why would he deny it? If Hollywood called me and was like,
Starting point is 01:29:41 hey, Brendan, why don't you be Batman? Yeah. But you got to put on 40 pounds of muscle. Yeah, dude, send your guy over. Yeah. Every Monday, inject me in the ass. They don't deny it. They just don't talk about it.
Starting point is 01:29:51 That's all it is. It's kind of like Mr. Olympia. We all know what's going on. Yeah. Here's a perfect example. When Christian Bale went from the machinist, when he was literally starving himself to death, he was dying.
Starting point is 01:30:03 I mean, it's like an awful movie, but a crazy physical transformation. The only one that's close to it, and he's actually the greatest physical transformation, I think, ever for a film. And the other second one is Matthew McConaughey. Actually, Dallas Buyers Club. Dallas Buyers Club.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Fuck yeah. Very close. It's a little. No. He's getting, he's getting, no, what you need to do. He's getting body shamed. What you need to do with him is,
Starting point is 01:30:27 Kamil, you need to see what he used to look like. It's insane. Like, he's probably the biggest transformation in the history of... My favorite is social media. That photo right there. Like, right there with the striped shirt. Upper middle.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Like, look. Nuts. Yeah, look what he used to look like. It looks like that. They did that. That's why he said that the Marvel team the marvel team like paid for everything of course of course of course they did without it of course they did that's what we're doing hold on no no he could have done it without the marvel team he would just have to pay for it he's got money yeah but they couldn't have done it without steroids it's not possible he's in his 40s he's in his
Starting point is 01:31:03 first of all if you are in your 40s it is very difficult for you to gain mass like that and i think it's funny that on social media they're like oh this is white privilege at its finest you guys respect thor and you respect uh the white man who plays batman but as soon as the indian guy does it you guys accuse him of steroids like no no we know they're on steroids we're saying he's on steroids too this isn't a race thing well this is what people do here's the issue the issue was nerds were mad that he used to be a nerd and now he's jacked he's a dying piece and then also he fucked up because he made a tweet that toxic masculinity is like he made a tweet about
Starting point is 01:31:43 the disease of toxic masculinity. And then someone put that tweet right next to a picture of him looking all juicy juicy. I love it. But what is toxic masculinity? It's being an asshole. There's no toxic femininity either. It's being an asshole. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:00 You're being an asshole if you're a woman. You're being an asshole if you're asexual. Trans, whatever it is. You're just being an asshole. Yeah, like like you can be jacked and be a nice guy There's a lot of really nice guys that are jacked. It's like it's a silly thing. It's not toxic masculinity. It's shitty human behavior That's what it is. Yeah with him. It's not a race thing. We we called out Chris Hemsworth the rock Everyone gets all juicy. Yeah. The Rock is so juicy. And why not? And he's one of my favorite people ever.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Love him. Love him. He's a fucking animal. The best. He's on steroids. Of course he's on steroids. But if you're The Rock, why wouldn't you be on steroids? Listen, man.
Starting point is 01:32:38 I am so open about my hormone use. I'm so open about testosterone replacement, human growth hormone. And because I am, I have filled nothing. Like, it doesn't bother me at all. What are you going to say? my hormone use i'm so open about testosterone replacement human growth hormone and because i am i have filled nothing like it doesn't bother me at all what are you gonna say i have no feeling like i'm not like hiding in shame like i'm like no i celebrate it i'm 53 look at that son i bet your wife loves it yeah you jack dude i lift weights every day i'm always working out how's that dick working my body works great everything works You have small balls though, huh? No, they're okay. Look at that. Small balls?
Starting point is 01:33:08 Look at the size of them. Yeah, I mean, but why not? Why not? Dude, wait till I get on that same shit you're on. Wait till I fucking- But you did it for a little bit. Why'd you stop? TRT?
Starting point is 01:33:17 Yeah. My face, I got moon face. Well, that's just food. Yeah, but my body didn't react well to it at all. Interesting. Yeah. I got like really big, but not like cool big. I just get like my clothes didn't fit.
Starting point is 01:33:32 My neck was all fat and I was sweating all the time. That's interesting. I was like snapping on people. Was your body, maybe you've been taking too much, man. I think so. Who was giving you this shit? Doctor. What did the doctor say?
Starting point is 01:33:43 All you want. Yeah, just take a full syringe doctor say all you want yeah just take a do whatever you want man i'll send what you need yeah call in i don't need it though right now i'm good right now okay i'm on a diet my energy's good my dick works oh my dick didn't work either what dick was was it didn't matter if you put wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute dick did not work wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute while you were on testosterone yeah and that makes no sense it does though it does though because because your your body the way it reacts your testicles shut down so also your my sperm count there's a few guys that trt and testosterone synthetic testosterone destroys your sperm count
Starting point is 01:34:20 so my wife was trying to get pregnant and i was on trt so i had to go jack off in a cup so embarrassing jacked off in the cup they're like if you over here and here's the vhs with the porn i was like bitch it's 2020 dude i got a phone yeah i was like hey let's get out of here so uh jacked off like a porn collection oh dude a whole catalog off place yeah just old bushes and fucking nightmare so i used my phone anyway jacked off into the into the cup and uh yeah they're like yeah you have no sperm are you on and the doctor goes you're on trt i was like you fucking tell me doc he's like yeah whatever dude your sperm's not working so did you get on clomiphene or something like that to do all that stuff right to just reboost your testosterone production.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Yeah. What about like, what is that stuff called? HCG? HCG, yeah. I used some of that, injected some of that. And that, it just jacks up your testosterone production, right? Yeah, I used all that to get back. And then I feel good, man.
Starting point is 01:35:18 I'm just trying to get lean. I don't want to get bigger. You're doing a lot of biking, right? Tons of biking. Yeah. You really like that, huh? Love it. Obsessed with it.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Better for your knees than running. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Healthy diet. A lot of biking, right? Tons of biking. Yeah. You really like that, huh? Love it. Obsessed with it. Better for your knees than running. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Healthy diet. A lot of biking. I just get, like, my trainer came over the day and we're hitting mitts. I'm just, I did it for so long for, like, for real.
Starting point is 01:35:35 So I'm just like, why am I doing this? Yeah. I'm like, what is this? You know? So biking's just new. I can listen to podcasts or, like, books on tape. I just fucking go, man. It's an interesting thing that happens with a lot of fighters where after
Starting point is 01:35:47 they're done fighting, like the idea of training for like fight style training, it just seems so like, like that's a job. Like I don't want to, I need a mission. I need a mission. You got to get,
Starting point is 01:36:01 I need a mission. I need some, a reason why I'm doing it. You should fuck with yoga I did yoga for a long time I like yoga But just biking You can't do yoga at a studio in LA anymore
Starting point is 01:36:12 Because of communism Yeah you're right Thanks North Korea LA is Russia with a beach right now What do you think they're going to do about LA I don't think it's going to bounce back You're crazy i think it's gonna be like five i'm right no let's put a bet well let's bounce back listen all i'm a home
Starting point is 01:36:33 body i don't get listen i hope all the everyone opens up and all the businesses are saved as long as you open the economy store the improv the laugh factor nice house and i can go there at night the rest of the stuff do what you want man That's true But there's no traffic right now But all the restaurants are gone Postmates What are they gonna get it from Their house Cook you up some pancakes
Starting point is 01:36:52 And put it in a fucking styrofoam cup It's a bummer It'll bounce back dude I think it's gonna be a long time son There's not enough money The people that all had These small businesses That all had these restaurants
Starting point is 01:37:02 Like where are they gonna get The money to start back up again It's gonna be dicey That's why our taxes are high And that's why we need They're gonna jack them up The brother that you showed All had these small businesses that all had these restaurants. Like, where are they going to get the money to start back up again? It's going to be dicey. That's why our taxes are high. And that's why we need the brother that you showed and the Indian dude. Get on it. Team up together.
Starting point is 01:37:12 I think he's from Sri Lanka. What'd I say? Isn't he from Sri Lanka? Yeah, you're right. What'd I say? Indian? Yeah. Sri Lanka.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Yeah, I think California's got a long fucking road. But I think it's good for the other country To get some Californians And spice it up Just as long as they don't Fuck up their politics Bingo Bingo Because Texas is a purple state brother Yeah
Starting point is 01:37:32 Like you go around Austin Like it's you know This is blue Here watch your words here It's blue as fuck here Is it blue now? Yeah This is pretty blue
Starting point is 01:37:40 Austin's always been blue Which is weird to move And then vote the same way From where you moved from Yeah They think they know better Learn from your fucking mistakes fucking mistakes people and your fucking freedom you don't know any better we need regulation here it's nuts it's nuts it is weird it's weird but that's what people do you know people think they know better dude i went to mar-a-lago when i was doing palm
Starting point is 01:38:00 beach i just wanted to see really i just wanted to see where trump was at so i drove down there and i didn't know it was like i didn't know it was a club i thought anybody could go in i didn't know that so me and my brother we went to lamborghini figures lamborghini would get us in yeah we go to pull in and the guy's like there's security everywhere like high level security jr wonder war and he goes name and i go brendan chobb he goes okay fighter and the kid you know like you have come on dude below the belt on showtime king saying diaries what are we doing here man million things million things ridiculous what do you want rogan what do you got nothing dude and he's like are you a member i'm like no and he goes oh yeah
Starting point is 01:38:35 this is membership only and i go okay um well how much is a member i figured can i get a day pass yes 250 000 200 grand oh that was close 200 grand 200 grand and i went home sad because i couldn't get in went back to my shitty airbnb my brother booked it not my fault you have the shitty airbnb and i looked it up you get every fucking it's worth every penny that place looks fantastic what do you get you have to live there you don't want to be a member and live in la no do. Do the Palm Beach Improv once every year and go down to Tomorrow Logger. No, you don't want to do that. It's pretty dope, though.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Do you golf? No. Too slow. What are you fucking doing? I just want to hang out. I just want to see what all the fuss is about, dude. There's no fuss without Trump. Like the President of the United States.
Starting point is 01:39:18 No, the former President. The President of the United States is Joseph Biden. You're right. Joseph. Joseph's are balling these days. Someone has to tell him he's the president. Yeah, he's like, wait, what? Really?
Starting point is 01:39:27 I won? Dude, we keep telling you, man. I'm a senator? No, man. So, yeah, but think about our taxpaying dollars kept flying Trump from the White House to there for a reason. So if he's the president of the United States, he can live anywhere. He's living there.
Starting point is 01:39:42 So I had to check it out. So I looked up homes around Mar-a-Lago. Jesus Christ, dude. Crazy, right? Dude, nuts. Yeah. Nuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:50 I wouldn't want to live there. There's no energy. Well, that's West Palm Beach. Is that what that area is? Yeah. That's a very wealthy area. What does that say? What does the title say?
Starting point is 01:39:58 Pictures from inside the club. No, but what does the title say? Let me scroll up there. No. There it goes. Donald Trump returned to Mar-a-lago take a look inside his exclusive resort the public never sees yeah you can't get in so he's back there partying at mar-a-lago what do you think he does now watches cnn and just talk shit
Starting point is 01:40:16 give me some pictures so he bought it i think for um he bought it, I think, for He bought it for $8 million in 1985 It's worth $300 million now Wow Smart business adventure Well, he could pay that off All of his debts he's going to have when they come for him Yeah, what a waste of time They're coming for him
Starting point is 01:40:37 What a waste of time Hey, let's move on Let's not waste our tax and all that Yeah, they're coming for him They're coming for him There's a bunch of people that want to make their name on prosecuting him.
Starting point is 01:40:50 If they can get out of here. Because you didn't let Joe Exotic out? You could have let that guy out. Do you let Kodak Black out? Do you let my boy Joe Exotic out? It's kind of weird, right? Come on. Why didn't he pardon Snowden?
Starting point is 01:41:02 Why didn't he pardon Julian Assange? Yeah, it's very strange. That's the big boy moves. That would have been cool. But there was apparently a lot of resistance to him pardoning Snowden. A lot of resistance. I bet. I think pardoning Snowden would be the ultimate.
Starting point is 01:41:18 And Assange, too. Both of them. That's the ultimate. If he really hates the system, you really hate the intelligence community, you really hate. That's what you would do. I mean, the widespread spying on the American people. Yeah, I wonder why he did it.
Starting point is 01:41:34 He was probably worried about the repercussions. Like, he probably was hedging his bets in terms of, like, what they're going to prosecute him for. Well, I think the raiding of the Capitol really scared the fuck out of him. Like, you're on the hook for this, Bubba. And he's like, oh, shit, I was going to pardon Snowden. Like, well, you can't now. prosecute him well i i think the rating of the capital really scared the fuck out of him like you're on the hook for this bubba and he's like oh shit i was gonna pardon snowden like well he can't now yeah he fucked up with that that is one of the classic last days in office fuck ups that will go down in history but it kind of defines who he is in terms of like how the kind of power that
Starting point is 01:42:03 he tries to wield with his followers yeah try to tell people you got to show them strength you know you know what the problem is though is in listen i'm not super pro right or pro left but the problem is is like that gets those people represent the right now like those those crazies like that's not all Trump followers. It's a problem. That's a big problem. It's a problem. It's a real problem because they can use it to diffuse real, honest criticism of left-wing ideas. You can lump someone in with those people that tried to storm the Capitol. It's insane. There's some legitimate conservatives, never-Trumpers, guys who know David Fromm.
Starting point is 01:42:46 There's a bunch of these guys who are really interesting, conservative intellectuals who had no desire whatsoever to be attached to any of Trump's ideas. And they're like, he does not represent conservatism. But now they look at people like that. Anyone who's on the right. You're the enemy. You're the enemy. They're silencing. You're wearing a fucking Viking helmet on and you're shirtless and living with your mom.
Starting point is 01:43:04 What was the agenda there, man? What did you guys, they're like, we got in. Being a loser. Yeah, dude, how about the one, that fucking chick, man, the one that got shot in the neck. Crazy. Imagine you're their parent. You're like, wait, why did she get shot in the neck? Well.
Starting point is 01:43:19 Right in the White House. Do you know that? Have you ever seen that lady's rants? Yeah. It's tough. Unhinged rants. Nuts. That didn't make any fucking sense about all kinds of things.
Starting point is 01:43:28 She was a mother. Was she a mother? Yeah. That's the biggest disappointment. People get wrapped up in these online communities, man. These QAnon communities and these online right-wing communities. And they really think that they're patriots. They really think that they're the fucking,
Starting point is 01:43:45 they're the new Tea Party. They're the people that are going to fix this country. They also think social media is real. Like that social media is the end-all be-all for them. It's the world so much bigger than just that. They say one in 10 people are on social media when you walk down the street. That's it?
Starting point is 01:43:59 One in 10. It's only one in 10? One in 10. Really? Yep. How do the other people find out about your shows? I don't know. Confirm that, Jamie.
Starting point is 01:44:12 As time goes on, I think we're going to find more and more that it's really unhealthy to be on social media. It's really unhealthy. I got a new phone and it doesn't have any apps on it. I have no apps on my phone. I'm the same. Yeah. I used to have them in a folder called Addict addict but then i would just go to that folder yeah well yeah because you're an addict i just go i don't care i just want to go stare at things and scroll mindlessly
Starting point is 01:44:37 through people's feeds yeah i was on i was on social media too much and then i was on my phone watching youtube or something like that and then my son's like dad get off your phone and he's four i'm like oh shit this is not this isn't good you're four and you realize i have a problem so i got off yeah and my heroes growing up and whatever guy you look up to in comedy when you got into it didn't have social media man you know they didn't have those influences well they would have if they had it but i'm just saying back then they didn't you know and it's probably a good thing chapelle doesn't have those influences. Well, they would have if they had it. But I'm just saying back then they didn't, and it's probably a good thing. Chappelle doesn't have shit. He doesn't use anything.
Starting point is 01:45:08 He has an Instagram account that they set up for when he released that video showing how he was being taken advantage of by Chappelle's show, being on all these streaming networks, and then they wound up pulling those streaming. I mean, it really worked. It was one of the most gangster moves ever. I mean, it was an incredibly effective move, right? He puts up this heartfelt 20-plus minute video of him being funny,
Starting point is 01:45:32 but being honest and breaking down what happened and how they kind of took advantage of him. And then the streaming sites all took his video down. That's the power of Dave Chappelle. He's the GOAT man to me. Yeah. Again, it's the greatest alive. I mean, if you want to talk about the impact of a comic, because he's not just impactful
Starting point is 01:45:51 as a great stand-up comedian, and clearly he goes down, you know, historically as one of the greatest of all time as a stand-up comedian, but also he had the best sketch comedy show ever. Yeah. he had the best sketch comedy show ever. That show only lasted two seasons. And pound for pound, laugh for laugh, it's the greatest sketch comedy show of all time.
Starting point is 01:46:15 Speaking of power, think of Kevin Hart, who's probably the most well-known comedian on the planet. As far as ticket sales go, he's the most successful of all time. Most successful tour of all time. Yeah, he does like 40,000 seat arenas, football stadiums and shit. Yeah, for God's sake it's crazy nuts he filmed his thing in Philadelphia he did 40,000 people came to see him to film a special he's in Jumanji for fuck's sakes yeah so you know he launched a new show and this isn't Kevin Hart he has a team he launched launched a new show called inside jokes and he posts on social media like, hey, come into, I forget what network, Inside Jokes.
Starting point is 01:46:49 And Schultz, who's been doing a show for, I think, four years called Inside Jokes on YouTube, millions of views. Same concept. Tweets to him, goes, hey, Kevin, did you not look into it? I've been doing this show for however many years. It has millions of views. It's already taken. Guess you got sick of sitting in the ice bath. Because he has that ice bath show.
Starting point is 01:47:08 And Kevin responded back. He was like, dude, I know in your world this seems like I did it on purpose. I didn't. My team's looking into it. I apologize. We're going to change everything. Pretty dope. Well, Kevin is a great guy.
Starting point is 01:47:20 He would never do something like that on purpose. Somebody probably came up with it. That's a problem. That's a problem. That's a problem. I remember when there was a real issue at the comedy store because late night talk show writers would come in and they would watch people do stand up and then steal their jokes. Take their ideas. And then guys would wind up doing those bits in their sets. And I know that that's happened to, there's more than one,
Starting point is 01:47:52 I don't want to even name any names of hosts, but more than one host, whether they knew it or not, was doing stolen material. They probably didn't know. They might have known. They might not have known. I don't know. I don't know them, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:04 I'd assume a team, though. It was a giant issue. I'm sure it was. It was a giant issue with certain sketch shows that they were stealing people's acts and then making sketches out of those shows. Speaking of stealing, did you see Carlos Mencia on Bobby Lee's show? I did not. It is riveting.
Starting point is 01:48:23 I called Bobby when I got done with it because you know i wasn't around the comedy store any comedy when that was going down when you guys had i saw that he was on it and i watched like a few seconds of it but i was like it's it's it's pretty fucking entertaining because and bobby you know he he he goes at him man he's like you definitely stole some stuff man and like you need to apologize for it he's like well i don't know if i did he's like no no you definitely stole some stuff dude yeah and you see carlos side from it again i only know one perspective right and just hearing carlos side again i was in there i have no fucking clue what happened i believe you you know carlos is like the problem is like i'm not on i'm not on
Starting point is 01:48:57 the internet i'm not on social media really so well he's saying like he doesn't really have a voice on there so an instagram page yeah but not you know he's not doing it you know he's he's saying he doesn't really have a voice on there. It's an Instagram page. Yeah, but he's not doing it. He's older. He's on it all the time. Is he? Yeah, it's not true. Well, he's saying from like this. Again, yeah, you're probably right.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Well, he's just not popular. Yeah, he just hasn't adapted with the times. He's been stuck at a certain number of Instagram followers for years. I don't even know how many followers he has. But he's saying he wasn't able to get his narrative out and apologize to the people. That's not true. No, I mean, he's come up with a bunch of different versions of why he is not at fault. And Joe, I'm not defending you at all.
Starting point is 01:49:35 I'm just saying it was super interesting because I only know your version, Ari's version, Bobby Lee tells me all these stories. I've heard all these stories. I've never had any interaction with him. He's got a few different versions. One of his versions is, I've recorded all my shows since 1993, and if I ever stole a joke, I would go back and say, listen, I can show you that I did it before you, or if I did, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:49:58 He's trying to find a way to excuse what everybody knows he did. What he was doing was copying other people's material copying premises and he was doing it openly it was i mean there was a there's a video from a show there was like this uh documentary they did where he admitted it he actually said yeah i i copy it it's like what a rapper remixes it yeah i think patricia o'neill posted that when he was a live detox show was like he admits it hereixes it yeah i think patricia o'neill posted that when he was a live detox show was like he admits it here he goes yeah i stole those jokes yeah i've seen that now he says that you know now he said he didn't now he says you know he comes up with a difference
Starting point is 01:50:34 look the guy has been tortured you know that's the sad thing it's like how much does the man deserve how much punishment does he deserve for what he did? He's probably still not stealing. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. I know he does like two and a half hours on stage. But here's the thing that does happen to comics, and this is where it's really weird.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Comics that steal, they have a really good beginning of their career, and then they get called out for stealing, and then they try to not steal. And the contrast between their early material when they were stealing and the new material when they're not stealing is clear as day yeah stark yep it's staggering and there's many we can name them right now if we wanted to be mean yep and some of them have done specials recently do you want me to do it you don't have
Starting point is 01:51:19 to okay but they're it's brutal the difference is fucking brutal and that difference is because they were plagiarizing. They were taking other people's premises. They were doing it on purpose and some of them, they've been real calculated about it like threatening the comedians they stole from, sending DMs to them.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Or texts. Or text messages, making them real uncomfortable. Putting pressure on them. Putting themselves in these protected categories or saying they're part of certain movements that you know like i know i have not i've not known to you for you to be helping this movement like you know you're talking about this movement on stage and then stealing their premises and stealing their bits like there's there's some dark shit that goes on
Starting point is 01:51:59 and it's good it catches up with them to your point like their specials are dog shit specials are dog shit and that's where you that's where you know like there's a thing with comedy that happened there's a there's a bunch of things that can happen once you become successful and then you continue to to make specials one of them is you kind of run out of stuff to talk about or you you know you you you spend 10 years developing your first set, and then you have to do another set afterwards. It's just not as good. Or you can't relate to the people.
Starting point is 01:52:33 You're so famous that your material is not relatable. Those are both big factors. Kevin Hart's pretty good at that. Well, he's smart. He's also very ambitious, and he hires a lot of writers, and he's also a very honest person. You're good at it too? Yeah. I work hard.
Starting point is 01:52:44 I work hard. I work too yeah i work hard i work hard yeah you know i work hard i work hard and i and i'm fucking ruthless on myself i'm a very self-critical person i think a lot a lot of those people that we won't mention a lot of them they're really actors they're acting like comics there you go what they really are is they're attention whores they really want attention in any way they can get it and they've chosen stand up for for their vehicle or their venue. And they make it in other avenues, and they come back to comedy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:53:09 Yes. Yeah. But the difference is so obvious, and that's one of the – if you know – look, people, they – you know, it's hard for bands to maintain top performance. Like, a lot of bands, they start out, and they have a bunch of good albums, and their albums start to suck. it's hard for bands to maintain top performance. Like a lot of bands, they start out and they have a bunch of good albums and their albums start to suck. It happens with comedians.
Starting point is 01:53:30 They get real famous. They get soft. And then the other problem is their audience loves them. So they can kind of do anything and they go out there and the audience loves them. The material suffers. That's why Steve Martin quit. Have you ever read that book, Born Standing Up? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:42 He said he went out there and he had this ukulele thing and and it come down and one night it came up but it fucked up and so the bit there's no bit he had to have it but the audience was laughing right away and he's like oh oh fuck i'm done he's like it's not even the the material anymore they're laughing at whatever the fuck i do now yeah it's so he stopped doing it stand-up comedy in in some ways is uh in some ways it's there's there's there's a parallel that you can make to martial arts how so in that if you don't put the real work in when that when the time comes to perform it shows there's a ceiling yeah again There's a ceiling. Yeah. Again, there's a ceiling. Yeah. Because to your point, if you don't put the work in,
Starting point is 01:54:29 you're going to get to a certain level, right, where you're playing to your crowd. You're playing to your crowd, and they think everything's funny. You're like, man, I'm fucking killing it. Right. And then you're going to go to the comedy store where it's not your crowd or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:39 You got to do real jokes, not references of your famous buddies or to this where people don't know you gotta do real jokes right you fucked me you gotta do jokes for people that aren't your fans correct and that's the difference between maybe sparring with people that are in your camp that maybe know how good you are to fighting someone who doesn't give a fuck and they're trying to kill you yep and then you you see how much work you've really put in might not be the best comparison that's a pretty good comparison, though, especially from the world we come from.
Starting point is 01:55:07 Yeah, the comparisons are all like you can't not work. You have to put in the work, and the work is uncomfortable. Well, here, too, I don't mean to interrupt you. No, it's fine. But to your point, though, it's like if you're a wrestler and you got to a certain point where the takedown's working every time, every single time, and then you get to a guy where that takedown is not going to work. And if you didn't work on those skills, where if the wrestling doesn't work, where you got to find other ways to beat them, you're not going to have a career, man.
Starting point is 01:55:33 You lose three and you're out of the fucking UFC working at Starbucks. So you got to put in the time for that other stuff. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good analogy. And I bet that exists in almost every endeavor. Correct. That there's certain things you don't like to do. They're uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:55:47 How many guys do we know that are really good strikers, they don't want to go to the ground because they don't want to get tapped, so they don't train on their ground game, and then they wind up getting in a situation where they're on the ground and they get tapped? Didn't you tell me that Justin Gaethje never trains jiu-jitsu? Not a lot. When we were training,
Starting point is 01:56:06 you know, I don't want to out him or nothing, but now when we train, he just, he was just like, you know, his, I think his mindset was,
Starting point is 01:56:15 because I'm such a good wrestler, I can, I'm not going to learn the leg locks and the arm bar, I'm just going to learn how to defend what they're going to do and get back to my feet. That was his process.
Starting point is 01:56:24 As savage as that guy is, one of good he would be if he fully embraced submissions. Well, to your point, look what happened when he got to Khabib. Exactly. Where it's like, oh, you don't know? You're going to get lost if we go down there? Two times. I'm going to take you down there, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:40 Well, it also seemed like Khabib kind of maybe wanted to do that and get it done in that way. Dude, inverted triangle? Amazing. An inverted? From mounted. A stubby Khabib did inverted triangle? That's insane. From a mount.
Starting point is 01:56:54 Nuts. Yes. Nuts. Crazy. At that level? Yeah, well, Khabib is just such a monster. I don't think we really even know how good he is. I don't think he's been pushed.
Starting point is 01:57:03 I think we... I mean... And that's why he quit. I think he quit because of his mom, right? I think he quit, A, because of his mom, but he did want to get to 30-0. He promised his dad 30-0. But I also think he's just like, I'm not getting up. What are you going to toss me? What do you got for me?
Starting point is 01:57:18 I want to see Justin versus Dustin Poirier again. Gaethje and Poirier again. Yeah, me too. I'd love to see that. But I want to see them each get a win and then do it. Yeah. And that's where my tournament comes into play. Charles Oliveira might be the motherfucker, dude.
Starting point is 01:57:32 He might be the motherfucker. You know what's weird, too? Yeah, Charles Oliveira's a motherfucker. He might be the motherfucker. I would say he's the most dangerous out of everybody. He's so talented. In all aspects, he's so talented. His ground game is off the charts.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Experience, ground game, striking, his reach now, his distance, his footwork, his mentality. Bad motherfucker. Going back to Conor, he said something. He said, this loss doesn't feel like it usually does. He can't walk. Well, he said that. And he got knocked out. I'm sure physically that hurts.
Starting point is 01:58:00 But also, he's like, I'm not as obsessed as I should be. When I hear that, I'm like, ooh as i should be oh where i hear that i'm like oh that's not that's not good what does that mean what did he mean by that you think maybe he put in his all and he just lost and he doesn't feel like he's fine anything on the table that's fine so maybe he says okay we're gonna dust ourselves off and make the adjustments yep in that case maybe it's a good thing that doesn't hurt him agree, the guy is wealthy beyond imagination, right? Most successful fighter of all time. Yeah, not just from fighting, but also proper 12.
Starting point is 01:58:32 I mean, that whiskey company is fucking killing. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars. Crush that whiskey company. Is it better than Tiger Thick? I doubt it. Carry on. I've never had proper 12. You had it?
Starting point is 01:58:43 Yeah, someone brought it over my uh brother-in-law brought it over for the fight I said bring whiskey brought them like all right dude what'd you spend 30 dollars is it bad no it's not bad you get what you pay for like if you're a real whiskey drinker it's not bad don't get me wrong it's not bad whiskey at all it's a it's a you know it's a it's a it's a clean whiskey it's not josh barnett's warbringer war master I've never had that I've heard it's fantastic good but just based off josh's label yeah whiskey. It's not Josh Barnett's Warbringer Warmaster. I've never had that. I've heard it's fantastic. Fucking good. But just based off Josh's label, yeah, probably Josh's better.
Starting point is 01:59:08 It's fucking good. It's interesting because he's got no financial motivation at all. You know? No, none to fight. He's fighting for enjoyment, for legacy, to push himself, to test himself. Obviously looked in tremendous shape. I saw some of the training footage i talked to people that saw him train and they're saying he is in fucking tip-top magoo for this fight yeah i know but uh listen those low calf kicks are a game changer but here's my problem
Starting point is 01:59:35 with that that's nothing new it's not new but it's new in connor's career if you go to early connor's career in 2014 when he fought dust, no one was throwing those low calf kicks. In 2014, but this day and age... Except Benson Henderson. Yeah, Benson. I think Benson was the... Actually, we gotta give him credit. He's probably the first to do it. Yeah. And we kind of make fun of him. Remember he was jabbing the quad? Throwing those low kicks. You're like, what the fuck's he doing?
Starting point is 01:59:58 But his low kicks didn't have the same kind of effect for some reason. Different animal. Yeah, I mean, the way... Like, Justin's the best at it justin gaethje in my mind for my money is one of the best leg kickers that's ever fought in the sport he destroys people's legs michael johnson's leg he destroyed khabib's leg khabib's leg was in all kinds of trouble in that fight yeah it's just khabib's fucking force of a champion that mind he just like pushed through it the fact that khhabib fought that fight with a broken toe, too.
Starting point is 02:00:26 Nuts. I mean, he's just such an unusual monster of a man. But Justin Gaethje, he chops everybody's legs apart. Everybody. He's so good. And he's so good at being tight in the clinch. And getting away with it. And then chopping leg kicks down from from a clinch
Starting point is 02:00:45 so he's tying you up he's got like an overhook and he'll leg kick you and he learned that kicking from a boxing coach and trevor whitman you know so it's like what the fuck is going on yeah that's how talented he is world series of fighting fights oh dude he fucked dudes up dude destroyed people's legs but to you know again to me it's it's Conor not being active. Like, those kicks, dude. Again, it's nothing like we're like, oh, we've never seen that. But yes, but no. Because Conor fights in that wide stance.
Starting point is 02:01:14 He puts a lot of weight on his front leg, and he's looking to tee off on you with a big left hand. He keeps his right leg out, and the problem with that is Dustin's a fucking southpaw. So it's right there. It's right there for him. Because of the south's a fucking southpaw so it's right there it's right there for him because of the southpaw to southpaw and they're both in south yeah there you go but but also if you're if you're connor you've been doing so much boxing those leg kicks
Starting point is 02:01:34 that that you it's not going to be a thing you know right yeah it's just not you know you're not that conscious of it you're not really working on the muscle memory confidence in that fucking he did rock him he did rock him he's got so much confidence in that left hand but here's the thing i don't i don't know what his motivation is right let's assume he has the same motivation for another fight as he had for this fight he's not going to fall for the same trick twice no he's a smart guy so it's going to be interesting to see can he compete with the top echelon of the sport is he going to be motivated to get himself, can he compete with the top echelon of the sport? Is he going to be motivated to get himself in shape to compete with the top echelon of the sport? He can get his body in the best shape possible. To me, it's all here for Conor. We know he has
Starting point is 02:02:15 the skills to beat anybody in the world. It's here, man. Firas Ahabi thinks he quit. Firas Ahabi thinks that when the going gets tough connor finds a way to fold and he said you know once his leg was hurt he just sort of folded against the side of the cage and it's hard to argue with for us i i don't know if connor has quit in them but listen if if i have that much money in the bank and there's a yacht waiting for me outside it's probably like all right let's get out of here imagine if he won though pulls up in a yacht and then starches everybody fantastic i mean and that's what i was hoping for when he's sitting there meditating on the yacht i mean get the fuck out of here you see that fucking yacht it's nuts how much does a yacht like that cost they had to lend
Starting point is 02:02:55 him that oh i don't believe so there's no no no listen he didn't go broke if he bought that he has two yachts according to dana dana dana and I were on the phone yesterday, and he told me Conor just bought a Lamborghini yacht. That's not smart. Here it goes. Conor McGregor splashes out $12 million on a super yacht and pays cash. Wow. Since the bout ended. Oh, after he got fucked up.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Oh, Floyd Mayweather. Okay. This is after he lost To Floyd Mayweather Since the bout ended The 29 year old Has been living it up On the party isle Of Ibiza
Starting point is 02:03:31 With his family Enjoying good food Renting a lavish villa Lounging in the Mediterranean sunshine Oh And splashing out On a 12 million dollar
Starting point is 02:03:42 Super yacht Yeah but Look at that other yacht Estimated between 360 and and $400 million. That's how you go back. This is an eye-opening level of opulence to witness firsthand, he posted, referring to sailing yacht A, a vessel valued at $360 to $450. I bet you he doesn't own that.
Starting point is 02:04:00 When I was in Italy, I was there And Steve Jobs Yacht was there If you're Steve Jobs Get a yacht Steve Jobs is dead At the time Oh okay He's already dead So somebody else had it
Starting point is 02:04:10 Maybe his family Steve Jobs yacht Is basically an Apple store What the fuck is that It's so weird looking That's Steve Jobs No this is the one That has 350 million
Starting point is 02:04:19 That's Connors Oh that's the $350 Sailing yacht Yeah that is That's a four seasons That's preposterous Oh that's a sailing boat. Look, it's got sails.
Starting point is 02:04:27 Holy shit. That is sails. Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense. And then you got to pay for the staff. That is so dumb. Seems like a bad idea to spend your money. I hate to brag about my rich friends, but I have a rich friend that has... Look at that thing.
Starting point is 02:04:40 That'd be fun as fuck. That's the sailboat? It'd be fantastic. Pretty cool. Joe podcast on there. Joe buys the yacht. Bro. Dude be fantastic Pretty cool Joe buys a yacht Bro Dude buys a yacht
Starting point is 02:04:47 Podcasts on a yacht Sounds like a lot of fun That's like fights on a yacht? I have a friend who actually bought a yacht So odd This is the weird world that I live in now You have a different group of friends And this friend that bought a yacht
Starting point is 02:04:58 I was going Well how do you What do you Who drives it? He goes There's a full time staff They live on the yacht All year round They're there all the time Do you have to pay their salary? How do you, what do you, who drives it? He goes, there's a full-time staff. They live on the yacht all year round.
Starting point is 02:05:08 They're there all the time. Do you have to pay their salary? I go, what? He goes, they have all year round. Yeah, they live there. They're on his yacht right now. I go, so it's their yacht. I go, it's like if you have a house.
Starting point is 02:05:20 It's a timeshare. And there's a bunch of people partying at your house, and they clean it up right before you come in. Yeah, that's what's going on. And you smell other people's farts and your sheets and like like you don't think bringing girls back that you know all the fucking time banging chicks on your bed yeah yeah come on dude it's so weird are you counting all the liquor you got in there because i bet a lot's gone yeah so he's just so he pays full time for the staff yeah i was like what are you talking about like you have a full time level i better go couldn't you just rent a yacht like when you wanted to like you have money and then they take care of all that shit isn't there a service that'd be smart right it seems like a
Starting point is 02:05:53 better way to go you don't have to think about it he has so much money he's like listen i don't know dude why he's a very wealthy businessman my friend and he just said well it's like i didn't think about it before i bought the yacht does the name rhyme with no ilan does no he doesn't have a yacht okay ilan doesn't even have a house he doesn't want to own houses he's selling all his houses he rents house succumb to fucking social media pressure i don't think so yeah he was talking about he's like oh you guys want to talk shit about me my three houses i'm gonna sell them it's like all right dude still rich as fuck still gonna talk shit about your money yeah it houses I'm going to sell them it's like alright dude still rich as fuck still going to talk shit
Starting point is 02:06:25 about your money yeah it's like dude just get a house he is now the second richest man in the world I don't know how he's going to deal with it I don't know what
Starting point is 02:06:33 he's going to do Jeff Bezos has surpassed him how Jeff Bezos pulled off oh was it the GameStop CEO nuts dude sailing yacht A is the largest sailing yacht in the world
Starting point is 02:06:46 By a lot A sailboat right But there's other yachts that are big Can you just show me a picture of Conor McGregor's yacht Because his yacht And Dana said he owns them He owns two He bought that one and then he bought a new one that's a Lamborghini yacht
Starting point is 02:07:00 We know boats are a bad investment Bubba But he's like dude you know how much whiskey I'm fucking selling? Yeah, there you go. Different level, man. So that's his $14 million yacht. It's the Lamborghini one, it says. That's the Lamborghini one? 300-foot Lamborghini.
Starting point is 02:07:18 300-foot Lamborghini Supra Yacht. He's painting it yellow. Wow, look at that thing. Did you see what Floyd said about Connor? No. He's saying how it's racism at its finest because we celebrate Connor spending money and acting all extravagant,
Starting point is 02:07:32 but then he gets hated on for acting the same way. And then he said, this is my favorite part. He goes, and the worst part is the hate's from my own people. Well, then it's not racist. How do you not have someone proofread your shit, dude? Well, that's not going to work, Bubba. Well, listen, Floyd is a brilliant marketer, and he's probably saying this to get a lot of attention, and it probably gets him a lot of attention.
Starting point is 02:08:00 But ultimately, Floyd's whole persona was about being a baller. Floyd Money Mayweather. Yeah. Listen, if you go back to Floyd's early days, Floyd was Pretty Boy Floyd, and Floyd was a much more aggressive, trying to stop people. Look, there's no disrespect to Floyd Mayweather. He's one of the greatest of all time. But one of the smart, if not the, but one of the smart things that he did was later in
Starting point is 02:08:25 his career he fought much more defensively but everyone wanted him to lose so he realized like hey i can take less damage box defensively beat all these motherfuckers have everybody paying to see me lose yeah and then i make all the money it was brilliant he's brilliant he's the most brilliant boxer ever because he's the guy that when you look at his career over 50 fights, undefeated, and was only hit hard three or four times. His whole career. His whole career. Easily.
Starting point is 02:08:59 Never dropped. Never really fucked. Was he dropped? No. He wobbled. Yeah. Never dropped. Never dropped. No. And dropped? No. He wobbled. Yeah. Never dropped. Never dropped.
Starting point is 02:09:05 No. And, you know, beat the best of the best. Beat everybody. But shut Canelo Alvarez down. Canelo's 20. You know? Yeah. Still.
Starting point is 02:09:13 Young Canelo. Smart business decision. He was just amazing. Canelo runs the game now. He does run the game now. He's pound for pound number one on my list. How about him knocking out Kovalev? How crazy was that?
Starting point is 02:09:25 Filthy. Jesus Christ. Kovalev is a legit 175 pound champion. Seeing Canelo knock him out. Dude, boxing's kind of popping right now. It's kind of popping. Especially in the lightweight division. How about the heavyweight division? There's so much craziness going on.
Starting point is 02:09:43 How so? You're trying to figure out the Fury-Joshua fight. And Eddie Hearn said that's going to happen. He said it a million times. And White is going to fight Deontay Wilder, but Wilder still wants to fight Fury in a third fight. And that's not happening. That's just the Wilder stuff made me so sad.
Starting point is 02:10:02 It bums me out, man. His excuses, it's like, oh, man, I've never seen someone deal with a loss worse than Deontay Wilder. I love Deontay Wilder stuff made me so sad. It bums me out, man. His excuses. It's like, oh, man. I've never seen someone deal with a loss worse than Deontay Wilder. I want. I wish. And I love Deontay Wilder. I do, too. I've worked with him several times.
Starting point is 02:10:11 Fantastic human being. He's a great human being. Great dude. And a really fun guy to be around. Like, I wanted to. I wish I was close to him. Like, while it was going on. Yeah, I would text him.
Starting point is 02:10:21 What are you going to say? Yeah. Don't say that. Don't say that. Listen to me. This is what people are going to think. Even even if you believe that you can't believe he had egg weights in his hands you can't believe that no dude there's no way first of all guy punches that fast with egg weights in his hand and then the other bummer is uh he fired his team yeah
Starting point is 02:10:37 that's not good he fired breland right bummer that is a bummer what is he doing now who is he training with i don't know i don't know it's a bummer hopefully when a guy loses like that after just starching everybody it's got to be like a world changer to our point that we talked about earlier and this is you know could be dicey you remember he started boxing late 24 there. There's a ceiling, man. And his ceiling was high, but there's a ceiling. Then you run into a guy like fucking Fury who can do it all. Footwork, can move, can punch. He can be a defensive fighter, a pressure fighter. So when Wilder had that right hand from God,
Starting point is 02:11:19 which is one of the greatest right hands of all time, if not the greatest right hand of all time, when a guy can negate that and has seen that in his career, you run into a guy like Fury, this is what happens happens i think the blueprint was established in the 12th round when tyson fury got up when tyson fury got up weathered deontay wilder's onslaught but then started winning nuts and won the the rest of the round and even had deontay in trouble at one point in time crazy and then in the rematch goes oh you can't fight going backwards oh well i've been doing that my entire career against eastern europeans and the amateurs so if i put you on your back foot you can't fight watch this and fucked him up dude
Starting point is 02:11:57 fucked him up now if you don't have those skill set if your only skill set's going forward throwing the right hand again to your point the ceiling's here, man. Now, his ceiling was here, but you're going to run into somebody who would negate that. Even the way Deontay reacted to the first knockdown, like he was complaining that he got hit behind the head. He was like upset. Like, what happened? It's almost like you can't believe he's losing. I know.
Starting point is 02:12:22 You know, have you ever seen a person who does that, whether it's a video game or playing pool or ping pong? Some people can't believe they're losing. Yeah. Like, you fucking did something. Yeah, I know. You did something wrong because I lost. This can't be me. I know. This is a thing that people do when they're not used to losing.
Starting point is 02:12:34 Especially that guy. That guy. Who was like, I'm going to try out box at 24. Took the world over. Got a bronze medal in the Olympics. A year and a half in a training. Fucking nuts, dude. Nuts.
Starting point is 02:12:44 Never happens. And then starches everybody. Everybody. Leaving up to it. Even Ortiz. met on the olympics a year and a half in a training fucking nuts nuts never happens and then starches everybody everybody even ortiz louise ortiz twice the greatest i would say up until that fight with fury the second fight with fury the greatest knockout artist in the history of the sport agree he's uh all knockouts all knockouts stuverne was the only guy who made it to the distance and then he starches him in the rematch. And what he did to Stavurn, he should have been arrested for. That was- Dude, I was ringside when he fought Brazil. Showtime flew me and my brother out.
Starting point is 02:13:13 Oh my God, that knockout. But they sat me next to Brazil's family. And it was like, when he was walking out, you're like, oh, dead man walking. And his whole family was like, he's going to do it. And they have shirts on. I'm like, oh, these poor people have no idea what's going to happen. That was after the Tyson Fury fight, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:26 It was in between. Dude, it sounded like a shotgun went off at the fucking Barclay Center. Whack! Isn't it funny how those long, thin guys can generate so much power at the end of the punch? Like Tommy Hearns when he was in his prime. So many guys. There he is. Listen, I'm still a giant Deontay Wilder fan.
Starting point is 02:13:43 I love Deontay Wilder. I hope he gets it back together again. I hope he proves everybody wrong and starts fucking people up again. Bomb squad! That always scares me when he does that. Dude. When he was on top, he was a motherfucker. No one can stay on top forever.
Starting point is 02:13:59 But let me tell you something. When history goes and looks at the career of Deont deontay wilder it's a oh it's a great extraordinary extraordinary career even if you retire today even if you say we're done he's hall of famer an extraordinary career like you and a great human being has so much more living to do and the fact that he became a boxer because he needed to generate money because his daughter was sick fantastic story it's amazing how can you not root for him how could you not root for the joshua verse fury eddie hearn take my fucking money do you hate money can i do it on the ship can i fly in a covid bubble all the way over to london watch that can you sign me up in a balloon whatever what do i have to do i mean i'll go there and not wear a
Starting point is 02:14:40 mask i'll let everybody spit in my mouth j Joshua vs. Fury site fee will be biggest money in heavyweight history. Yeah, that's fair. So are they trying to do it in a full arena? Where are they doing it? I don't think they've announced yet. Depends on COVID, but there's been talk that they're going to do it on a boat. Go to Miami. That's an option, apparently. Miami's an option? Florida? Of course it is.
Starting point is 02:14:59 No, do it at the Wembley, man. Florida. They're both English. They don't give a fuck. Both Brits. Yeah, but the Brits don't care. They'll fly over to Florida. Now you know the Brits. Florida Airlines. Florida Airlines is like, we don't give a fuck. Cough.
Starting point is 02:15:11 Cough. Take a shit in the aisle. We don't give a fuck. Bring an alligator. Bring an alligator. Come on, I'm bored. What's interesting about that is with Fury and Joshua, the Brits are going to side with Fury.
Starting point is 02:15:25 You think so? Yeah, he's going to have more support than ever. But Joshua's a huge star over there. He is. Fury's the biggest star now. Is he? Yeah. Because of the Deontay Wilder knockout?
Starting point is 02:15:33 The Deontay Wilder knockout, him not piping down about his mental illness. The people rallied behind him. Really? Yeah. And then Joshua, because he lost to ruiz and the media has kind of turned on him he's like dude i don't want to claim england anymore i want to fight out of africa i'm african really yep when did that happen i don't know he did he had was he born in africa no his his both his parents born africa and then they got a divorce moved while his mom was
Starting point is 02:16:01 pregnant moved to england he was born raised in england when he's like six or eight he did like some schooling he went back to africa for like a year did schooling and then we came back to england born raised in england but he wants to claim africa he doesn't like the way the english media treats him after the ruiz fight yeah he said everyone kind of hated him jumped off board yeah you can't read those social media that's That's sports, bubba. That's how it goes. That's sports. But it's also that sets up the stage for your retribution, your rise back to the top of the heap. Fury's my favorite fighter of all time. MMA, boxing, I fucking love Fury.
Starting point is 02:16:38 He's amazing. Tell you what, man, very few people would have made that kind of adjustment in their style to fight a completely different style in a rematch against a power puncher like Deontay Wilder. Insane. Just come right at him. And it was also interesting that he started training with Sugar Hill from the Kronk Champ and developed that sort of like Kronk style.
Starting point is 02:16:56 Yep. Like super aggressive, you know, knockout focused style. Insane, dude. Amazing. That's fun, man. It's fun, man. It's fun. The big fight for me right now, too, though, is Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford.
Starting point is 02:17:12 I don't know if you're going to see it, dude. I've got to see that fight. I don't understand why that fight's not happening. Boxing 101. Yeah. It's a fucking nightmare. Yeah, they're talking about Ryan Garcia fighting Manny Pacquiao. You seen that?
Starting point is 02:17:24 Yeah. I'm not into it. I don't think Ryan's ready. No. Thank God you agree with me. No, no. After he got dropped, I was like, oh my goodness. By Luke Campbell? Yeah, oh my goodness.
Starting point is 02:17:35 He's not ready for Manny Pacquiao. And then he wanted Tank Davis. Oh. And I did a food truck with Tyson, and it was the same day they had Ryan Garcia on. And Mike's like, oh, I just had Brian on and we had Tank Davis zoom in or FaceTime in and they're talking shit to each other. I went, well, Mike, that's not a good fight for him.
Starting point is 02:17:51 He's like, if he believes he can do it, you know, Muhammad Ali, what are you talking about? Yeah, I guess that's an example of Muhammad Ali. Ryan Garcia ain't being Tank Davis, dude. He's not ready. Gervonta is a ruthless puncher. He's ruthless.
Starting point is 02:18:07 He's ruthless. And he'll find your fucking chin. He will find your chin. That guy's good. I had that Teofomo Lopez on, who's the champ, who beat Lomachenko. He's the motherfucker of the division. Notice nobody's calling him out. No!
Starting point is 02:18:21 That's what he said on my show. That comes out in two weeks. And his dad was with him. I love his dad. His dad just took over the interview. But his dad was like, no one's calling my son out. Name one person who's called him out. Go, Brendan.
Starting point is 02:18:35 Tell me one. I'm like, no one. He goes, why do you think that is? He was calling all each other out, but not my son. Did you see what Gervonta posted on Twitter after Oscar De La Hoya was saying they're going to set up a fight with Ryan Garcia? And he goes, is Oscar on coke again? How about Oscar trying to fight Triple G? You know how insane that beating would be?
Starting point is 02:18:54 And then your boy Bernard Hopkins goes, I think Oscar would beat him. Hey, Bernard, I know he's your business partner. Do your fucking coke friend a solid here and let him know this isn't smart? Maybe he knows it'll never take place. maybe he knows that you know in the world we're living dude yeah it might maybe not maybe oscar fucking snorted all that money god i don't know i mean i see him training they lost canelo canelo's not with golden boy is that real yeah that's real when did that happen or like probably three or four months ago he's out how did he lose canelo alvarez canelo just didn't want to fuck with him anymore that's why hopefully canelo comes to showtime you think
Starting point is 02:19:31 canelo like was just tired of the bullshit i think so and and da zone because da zone was a fucking mess still is because of the lack of funds coming in from ticket sales and they promised him all this money and they weren't paying him he's's like, I'm out of here, dude. And who do you want me to fight? And Canelo wants to fight Earl Spence. He wants to fight everybody. And then we're not offering those fights. Those guys are smaller than him. Yeah, but he's down to cut.
Starting point is 02:19:53 He's down for whatever. He wants to fight the who's who. He wants to go down as the best. And Dazon's like, well, we can't get those guys. So he's out. So where's he going to go? He's a free agent right now. Wow.
Starting point is 02:20:04 Hopefully, I know Showtime's in negotiations with him. When is the best boxer in the world ever a free agent? I mean, when you sign with DAZN. Oh, and by the way, how fucking good and how juicy did Triple G look in his last fight? I know. He looked a little juicy. A little juiced up. Looked a little juicy.
Starting point is 02:20:21 And I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that, too. Yeah, do it, Doug. Look, and he's fucking 37, 38 years old. How old is he now? Why not? How old is Gennady Golovkin? 39?
Starting point is 02:20:30 He's 39, April. Jesus, you've got to be juicy. Juice it up, Doug. Because he looks shredded. I mean, he looks physically as good as he's ever looked. Canelo's not into the rematch. I'm sorry, the trilogy. Really?
Starting point is 02:20:41 I wonder why. It's a tough fight, man. Tough fight. It's a tough fight. He definitely lost one of those fights. Yeah, he lost the first one. He lost the first one. I felt like he lost the first one.
Starting point is 02:20:50 Do you see Triple G? Is that what he looked like? That's a weird photo. What does it say? It says, Rips Canelo Alvarez. This third fight will eventually happen. Yeah, but he's fucking 40. See if you can go with a video of his last fight.
Starting point is 02:21:04 Who the fuck was his opponent again? Who was his opponent again in his last fight? See if you can find the record. Yeah. How do you say that name? Make that larger again so I can read it. Camille
Starting point is 02:21:23 Suramita. Suramita Suramita? Beat the brakes off this dude See if you can find that online Because when you look at his body online It doesn't look like a 38 year old boxer Who's had more than a decade into the career Yeah highlight look at this
Starting point is 02:21:38 Like physically Okay he's 38 And he's fighting a dude who's 31 I mean he just put it to this fucking dude And looked as good, he's 38 and he's fighting a dude who's 31. I mean, he just put it to this fucking dude. And looked as good as he's ever looked. Had incredible endurance. He looked great physically. His muscle tone, like everything.
Starting point is 02:21:54 He looked on fire. I mean, he was picking that dude apart and eventually stopped him. And this was vintage Gennady Golovkin. And I think he probably tried to stay natty for a long time. Yeah, but then age is just like father times the K, bro. Yeah, if you find like a really shredded guy who's pushing 40, who like all of a sudden bounces back. This is an argument that Firas Zahabi had used for someone who... In UFC?
Starting point is 02:22:24 Fitch. in Bellator. He was saying, like, you look at the guy, like, all of a sudden he's making this resurgence and his body looks better and he's in his 30s. There's a lot of people that think you should be able to do it. There's a lot of people that think that... To a certain level. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:39 Bring your levels up to a certain level so you're not, you know, just royally fucked. But you would just allow fighters to continue their career this way and then there's other people that think no because it leaves too much room for cheating and what is cheating are you allowed to do ice baths are you allowed to do saunas are you allowed to do hyperbaric chambers are you allowed to do yeah you know what are you allowed to do what are you allowed to take supplements okay how many and what what what how effective are these supplements what do they do do you see usada's not gonna test for marijuana anymore yes yeah they sent it to me directly me too i got an email like hey can you please talk about this i'm like who gives a fuck dude
Starting point is 02:23:19 also the commissions don't you know obey by those same protocols. They don't? No. So California and Nevada, if you smoke and weed and they test you and you test positive, they're going to ban you. Oh, are they really? Yeah. They don't go by.
Starting point is 02:23:34 It's not an overall. That's just USADA and the UFC's agreement. Oh, that's interesting. So if you go to Florida, Nevada, California and you test positive for marijuana, to them it's still illegal. Huh. Yeah. So essentially USADA's not testing for it when they catch you. If they do like a six in the morning raid on Nick Diaz's house.
Starting point is 02:23:51 Yeah, you're fine. Yeah. So Nick Diaz is supposed to be fighting in 2021 as well, right? I guess. Isn't he supposed to come back? That's what they say. But then Dana was like, it doesn't make sense. Why doesn't it make sense?
Starting point is 02:24:01 Dana was like, he's been out for so long, it makes no sense for him to come back he's like i don't think we're gonna offer him a fight that's what i thought dana said well he might be saying that because of negotiations yeah trying to get him out dude i'm about to piss my pants go piss your pants all right cool go piss your pants thanks dude we're right here it takes a while to develop that kind of bladder endurance son you can't just jump right back into the game. You're right. You don't know about these three-hour podcasts.
Starting point is 02:24:28 So he said, I don't think anybody should want to see a Nick Diaz fight. I don't think anybody should want to see a Nick Diaz fight, but people should want to see a CM Punk fight? That doesn't make any sense. Listen, Nick Diaz is a legend. If Nick Diaz wants a fight, I want to give him my money. I want to pay to see that. I don't know if that's true.
Starting point is 02:24:49 Because everything that I've seen from Nick Diaz doesn't look like Nick Diaz wants to do. Oh, stop. Go back. Scroll down to where I was reading. Everything I've seen from Nick Diaz seems like Nick Diaz doesn't look like Nick Diaz wants to or is ready to compete in this sport. White said of the Diaz comeback reports, this sport, even for John Jones, as good as John Jones is,
Starting point is 02:25:14 you have to be 100% mentally, physically, and emotionally ready to train, be ready for this, and fight. And I just don't think, I don't know. Well, John Jones is the worst example that you could say, even as good as John Jones is, because John Jones beat Alexander Gustafson for the title in a five-round war where he literally didn't train. That's like the worst example that you could use.
Starting point is 02:25:37 What'd you do? I was trying to look up his Instagram to see. I mean, he said he was training on Instagram, and that's why people are talking about it. Getting his gloves laced up. What does it say in that one next to that? What does it say there? Nothing.
Starting point is 02:25:49 Just tag people. Just him. Look, I'm sure he's training. I am absolutely sure he's training. But that's him putting gloves on his brother. Holding pads for him. Yeah. I'm 100% sure he's training.
Starting point is 02:26:03 And it looks like he's training with his brother so he's getting his brother ready you know it's a thing it's like if he fights people want to see it he is Nick Diaz he's a legend I mean the guy's been in the sport
Starting point is 02:26:17 I called Nick Diaz versus Robbie Lawler in 2002 I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure that's when that fight was it might have been 2003 if I remember correctly so at the very least it was 18 years ago he knocked out Robbie Lawler which is crazy that they're both competing still.
Starting point is 02:26:46 Was that 2003? Nick Diaz versus Robbie Lawler? I think, no, I didn't go far enough back. Robbie Lawler, 2004. 2004. So, 17. That was his, like, 10th fight. Fucking crazy.
Starting point is 02:27:03 I mean, before that, he had a series of fights outside the UFC. He's been fighting since before September 11th happened. Yeah. Two weeks before that, he had a fight his first time. So he's got a more than 20-year career in combat sports. We're talking about Nick Diaz. What about him?
Starting point is 02:27:20 He wants to fight again, allegedly, but Dana White says nobody should want to see uh a nick diaz fight and he used john jones's example he's like even as good as john jones is you have to be mentally physically prepared i'm like that's the worst example you could ever use because john jones fought gustafson and beat him in a five-round war with no training at all yeah he trained for like two weeks and beat the shit out of him and then didn't train for ryan bader and beaming around he didn't train for Ryan Bader and beaming around. He didn't train for Ryan Bader? I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:27:48 No? Those were during the wild days. Seems to be chilling out now. Yeah. John seems to be into like guns. He's like really into tactical shit and like going through like these scenarios, these drills. Dude, good luck being that guy at heavyweight.
Starting point is 02:28:04 He's a monster. Monster. Monster. Yeah. And he's used to so many faster guys. But meanwhile. You can't get hit, though. Like, Francis hits you, it's game over. For everybody.
Starting point is 02:28:14 Anybody and everybody. Everybody and anybody. But Stipe took it. But I'd still maintain. That was a long time ago. Yes. And I still maintain that one of the reasons why DC knocked out Stipe with one punch was not just that there was a punch that nobody saw coming, that he didn't see coming.
Starting point is 02:28:29 It was because it was a beautiful technique. The pummeling and then the landing of the right hand, it was beautiful. Caught him clean. But also, I think Stipe was damaged from that first Ngannou fight. Agree 100%. He ate the biggest shots we've ever seen from Francis and kept on keeping on. Which is crazy. And then fought DC.
Starting point is 02:28:49 It was a good punch, but we've seen him take worse. We've seen him take worse, but it was a punch that he didn't see coming. It was the way DC brilliantly utilized the clinch and then landed that overhand right. It was perfect. But his limp arm, how did he get out of it? Out of the exchange. It was like in the middle arm How did he get out of it? Out of the exchange In the middle of the clinch And boom
Starting point is 02:29:09 I mean it was amazing It was so perfect And we were so stunned I'm a little worried for Stipe I don't know why we always count Stipe out But I'm a little worried about him Just his health and his eye and his back And everything going into this Francis fight
Starting point is 02:29:22 Because Francis is foaming at the mouth. You got to be worried about everybody who fights Francis. Everybody. He's just such a monster. He's so big. God, you got to fight the fucking guy, man. Yeah. Like, make him active.
Starting point is 02:29:38 Yeah. What's happening here? Stipe woke up with that immigrant mentality. He listens to Joey Diaz. That's a to Joey Diaz That's a Joey Diaz That's a Joey Diaz Got that fucking ox blood running through my veins today Let's fucking go He has the support from Mario Lopez
Starting point is 02:29:56 Let's go champ Let's go champ Speaking of let's go champ See Shannon Cannon Briggs uh training for a comeback stop he's pushing hard to try to get a fight with mike tyson oh god yeah he was overweight and getting to gym and looking slow and but he's like slowly building his way back up and he's documenting all of it on his instagram yeah tyson when i was with him he was saying he was like yeah you know i'm gonna fight a few times and i was like oh, oh, Holyfield? What else are you going to do?
Starting point is 02:30:25 He's like, no, there will be some other guys, so maybe Shannon Briggs is one of them. Maybe. I mean, it's the right age limit. I mean, Shannon, I think, is 49. Were you a fan of the Tyson-Roy stuff? It seemed like a gentleman's agreement to me. A little bit. Right?
Starting point is 02:30:39 A little bit don't hit me in the head. Yeah. Yeah, a little bit, right? Yeah, for sure. Maybe. I'm not that into it well i gotta i gotta admit that i was my anticipation level was very high oh really i had roy on the podcast i had mike on the podcast you really sold that thing
Starting point is 02:30:56 and i texted i was like dude you gotta calm down you gotta calm down because things's things a gentleman spent. Listen, I love both of them. I love both of them, too, and I'm willing to sell. I'm a hype man. Yeah, me too, man. I'm a fuckboy hype beast. But I was looking forward to seeing it, man.
Starting point is 02:31:17 I was watching it in my office like this. Couldn't wait. Couldn't wait. See, I think Jake Paul stoleul stole the show oh he did yeah by far well i mean he starched nate robinson poor nate robinson starched i think a lot of nba players are like oh yeah i want to do it too and they saw nate robinson he's a meme for the next but apparently he's saying nate took it real well and nate jumped in and was laughing at all the jokes and like uh you know the text threads with other NBA players.
Starting point is 02:31:46 Oh, good on him, man. Yeah, everybody said that he took it real well. Took it real well. Yeah, the hype off Jake Paul off that knockout is insane. Listen, man. Because the boxing community wants to see him lose. The MMA community wants to see him lose. And now the MMA community has never backed Ben Askren.
Starting point is 02:32:04 Now they're backing him because they want to see him beat fucking jake it's brilliant for him too you want to fight a guy with a big name who really isn't a striker at all no not at all you know any facet but if i see i've been had more time because ben hasn't really been training you know and then ben had a hip replacement and then ben was never really a boxer to begin with. Far from it. It's like I really wish he had more time to prepare. I agree with you. He's a completely different level of athlete.
Starting point is 02:32:34 From Nate Robinson. And also from Jake Paul. In terms of accomplishments. Not even close. Not even close. There's no quitting Ben. No quitting. You're going to have to put his lights out. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:44 And the guy's got incredible mental toughness, but does he have the physical capabilities to box well? I've got to see what that hip's like. I don't even... I've got to see what the new hip's like. I can't say I've ever seen him hit pads. Look at this. Yeah, he can move, but is there any videos of him...
Starting point is 02:33:02 I know it burns when Jake Paul takes a pee. It's so stupid. That's the thing about ben too he's the perfect opponent because he talks shit but he says a goofy talk shit too um is there any videos of him hitting the pads go to ben askren hits pads you know what's cool is you know you know ben still has a fights with the ufc and he had to call the ufc to get confirmation to take this fight. Yeah, they let him. Let's see this. Okay, let's see what we got here.
Starting point is 02:33:31 Let's see his boxing. Give me some volume. My man. Ew, ew, gross music. My man, Duke Rufus. This is, what is happening here? I don't know. Someone may have made a training video from some old shit and just re-uploaded it.
Starting point is 02:33:46 Can I just see? What do we got here? Oh, he's just looking to take people down. This is all very old video footage, I believe. Just got re-uploaded. Is there another video anywhere of him hitting pads? I just want to see his hand combinations. Can you go to YouTube?
Starting point is 02:34:05 Just click at the videos link. Just click the videos link. Dude, if you just watch Ben versus fucking Damian Maia. Here he goes. Give me volume. That's terrible. Mike spent some of my work for a while on team air with the sport, so we'll be working out two extra mid-sessions a week to get my hands moving.
Starting point is 02:34:25 And this is preparing for this fight? Is this recent? No, this is last 2019, it says. Okay. It's all old footage. Probably before his hip got fixed. Yeah, he had a really fucked up hip, even when he wrestled Jordan Burroughs. Well, you got to realize, when he got to the UFC, he was pretty compromised with that hip.
Starting point is 02:34:42 He was also older, man. Yeah. You weren't getting a young Ben Askren in the UFC. No no no no he had gone through the ringer yeah yeah and you know just years and years of wrestling and the punishment on your joints and just there's no no one gets out alive from wrestling man that that sport man everything gets just eventually just all the bolts start falling off and the fucking all the all wrestlers are pretty fucked up pretty fucked up shane carwin's neck back you know michael bisping just went in for a fake disc in his neck and he wasn't even a wrestler wasn't even a wrestler
Starting point is 02:35:15 but you know obviously did a lot of wrestling um he uh he just uh posted a photograph from his instagram of him without the eye prosthesis, too, because you can see what the eye looks like, what his actual eye looks like. He was trying to get a fight with these guys. He was trying to get a fight with Logan Paul or Jake Paul. Everyone was, dude, come on. But, I mean, Mike can't even see out of one eye. Now it turns out he had to get his disc replaced in his neck,
Starting point is 02:35:41 and he's still calling out a fight. What a game pit bull he is. Mike? Yeah, dude. One of the best. So game. Dude, but also, like, my kid wants to be a fighter. I'll show him fucking Michael Biswin with his eye out.
Starting point is 02:35:53 You know, heavy lies the crown, man. How did Nick Lentz do in his last fight? Because Nick Lentz had a real touch-and-go situation with his eye as well. And they cut him. All right, I think you're retired. You're retired? Did you see Hooker?
Starting point is 02:36:04 He lost 40% of the vision in his eye he couldn't see uh like couldn't target the moving target like and did you see that about this fight in particular did so did it did he lose the the 40 of the vision and he had that way in training but it was that way in training because I know he had surgery. And he took, like, here it is. My UFC, abruptly, I lost about 40% of my vision in his eye. Fuck. And he got really beat up in that fight, too. They say don't make rash decisions after loss, but this one is not rash or even quick, for that matter.
Starting point is 02:36:46 The injury I suffered to my eyes Last year was a career ender I lost a total 40% of my vision, but I wanted to see what one more hard-fought battle was like with the new eyes It was clear to me last night. It's impossible for me to compete at this level anymore I just can't lock on to a moving target like I should and with 40% of my vision practically gone Wow. gave me those gave those treasures and i only ask for a little vision as payment a trade that i would make 100 of the time wow thank you to my fans my coaches my family and everyone who has been a part of this process who knows what comes next for the carny but i can tell you what it's not what a stud he's an animal man tough tough fucking dude man and really you know really learned and grew in the sport fucking i hate seeing that man with guys losing vision it scares the shit out of me game though man you look at that spencer fisher post heartbreaking yeah dude this is only the
Starting point is 02:37:57 start bubba this only start because now yes there's gonna be a whole crop of new guys coming out with injuries yes brain trauma and vision problems. Well, I'm going to have on the guys from the John Hopkins psychedelic study that are working with the UFC with psychedelic therapy for CTE. The micro dosing. The thing about psilocybin, there's something about psilocybin that's one of the rare. I don't want to repeat this without it being accurate. Psilocybin regrows neurons in the brain i'm pretty sure that studies have shown that psilocybin can actually regrow neurons and it's a very rare thing
Starting point is 02:38:33 in that regard because i don't think there's anything else that's been clinically proven to do that so what that can mean is that through if it if it really works it it might be something that can actually restore brain function. Yeah, they're finding a lot more things. That's how I got started on nicotine packets. Is that what you do in there? I do nicotine. They say nicotine for your brain,
Starting point is 02:38:56 especially if you had CT, is supposed to be really good. Because one thing they found in smokers, almost all of them didn't have dementia. They were trying to figure it out. It's because of the nicotine. All right. You dropped all of them. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 02:39:07 All right. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, touch it. Now, these are little packets. What do you do with this packet? Put it in your lip, man. That's only six milligrams. Yeah, it's tasty, too.
Starting point is 02:39:15 Shout out to Rogue. Sponsor your boy. This is good? You like this taste? I love it, dude. I can't get enough of it. You can't swallow it. Well, you could swallow that, but that would be a lot harder to swallow than that uh dip you did yeah you can swallow this you don't spit in this cowboy gave me
Starting point is 02:39:28 a water dip oh don't do that put it in my mouth while i'm swallowing oh god no this one gets swallowed it's nice get a little buzz i do this right before i hit the stage you know what i do cigarette that stuff's nasty Bro it's like somebody tried to It's like someone You know when you swallow the shit Swallow it's way better It's like someone tried to put bubble gum And mix it in with tobacco
Starting point is 02:39:57 That's what it tastes like I go through a pack a day Try it Jamie Give one to Jamie I need to know I need to know. I need to know. I need to know if I'm wrong here.
Starting point is 02:40:10 They're fantastic. Bro, I'm just twitching. I can't get enough of it. This is a guy that just smoked a cigar. Yeah, there you go. And I'm like, look. Not for you. But do you fuck with Nicorette or anything? No.
Starting point is 02:40:20 But I've smoked a bunch of Chappelle cigarettes before I go on stage. I do like that before I go on stage. That jolt of nicotine. You take four of these, like 30 minutes before I go on stage, I'm fucking deep. First time I ever did it, I took one from Hinchcliffe. He's like, don't get addicted. I'm not going to get addicted. Dude, you know my whiskey problem started with you.
Starting point is 02:40:41 We're back at the bar. Whiskey problem? You mean this awesome practice of enjoying whiskey? My life is better back in the bar uh it's a problem you mean this awesome practice yeah enjoying my life is better on whiskey i think it's fine doesn't taste bad isn't it nice oh that's that rogue mango pouch everybody's got different taste buds yeah it's weird but back to my taste buds my whiskey issue started with you at the comedy store because like hey do a shot with me like i don't drink before sets man i gotta be on point like just do a fuck god come on i do it all the time like i fuck give me a shot i think it was jameson or jack did a shot best out of my life i'm like well you know i'm a guy who believes in
Starting point is 02:41:14 gets you loose yeah yeah it's not you don't want to be drunk when you go on stage no god but a little shot before you go on stage it's like yeah just gets the edge off yeah firing up i love it i love it yeah i enjoy it i enjoy it and i drink a lot yeah how much i was drinking probably two doubles a night before i took a break so why do you think it's the trt that was making your face fat how much were you drinking during that time your dick wasn't working hey i think i might have found another fucking culprit here i think you're hammering every night you're drinking a fucking ton of whiskey my face got half a bottle i think it was testosterone half a bottle half a bottle i just love it man i love whiskey i like catching I love whiskey. I like catching a buzz. Me too. I like catching a buzz at night.
Starting point is 02:42:06 You know how it is. You're doing shows all day, and I get home. I'm with my kid. It's nonstop. And I put them to bed, and then me and my girl, and she doesn't drink. I'm like, I'm just going to have some drinks, man. And we put on our show, fucking Love Island UK season three. I got my buzz on.
Starting point is 02:42:23 I got my dip in. You know what I've been watching? Karate Kid. Cobraai oh you're the second person i've heard it's good people love it it's so it's so cheesy it's so 1980s yeah it's so 1980s it's but it's good dude people love chapelle just told me he's like he likes to he doesn't like like he doesn't know fighting we should clarify chapelle lacy chapelle lacy yeah oh yeah not d not Dave Chappelle. You know when he started doing comedy, they're like, you need to switch your name. He's like, but my name's Chappelle. I'm like, I know, but there's already a Dave Chappelle.
Starting point is 02:42:51 He's like, what the fuck are you talking about? My name's Chappelle Lacey. He's got two names. It's Chappelle Lacey. It's not Dave Chappelle. He's the nicest guy, man. He's great. And by the way, what a freak athlete that dude is.
Starting point is 02:43:00 We've played videos of him doing gymnastics and doing cheer multiple times on this podcast. Dude, he'll fucking. He's incredible. Well, now at the shows, because he's done it so many times, at the shows they yell at him, his clothes are doing backflip. And I got to follow him. Like, what are you doing backflips up there for?
Starting point is 02:43:14 What are you doing? The fuck are you doing, dude? He doesn't look like a guy who should be able to do a backflip. He's like 240 jacked. It doesn't make any sense. I told him, I go, dude, the body control that you have You would be insane at Jiu Jitsu Yeah I know he got into it a little bit
Starting point is 02:43:28 Is he still doing it? Well in LA You can't really do Jiu Jitsu Yes you can You just gotta know the right people And I know the right people But he's not that dedicated to do it You know
Starting point is 02:43:37 Isn't that gross You can't even train Oh god How about our boy Eddie man That's his livelihood I know Look at him Look at his spell i mean come the
Starting point is 02:43:46 fuck on what a freak athlete and you want to talk about one of the nicest people in the world and talented and funny funny as shit man just a perfect person dude i was gonna shut finally get down look at that and i asked chappelle to do the show that's amazing it's just it's so unusual this is the crazy thing when he throws that girl up and catches her like you know what kind of power you have to have to be able to do that dude he's wider than me he does cheerleading he listens to fucking alternative music he skateboards it's like dude okay man um tell everybody where you guys are playing we're at the Mark in San Marcos Friday and Saturday It's between here and San Antonio
Starting point is 02:44:29 It's 20 miles from here There's a lot of spots out here man There's a lot of spots A lot of places to do comedy I'm coming man San Marcos for this Friday Saturday I don't know If anyone's going to get me to do it it's going to be you
Starting point is 02:44:43 What is that? That's their website. That's what I used to look like one day. I bet it will be like that. That's probably what's going to be. San Antonio is COVID-y as fuck. That's where you caught it. That's where I got it.
Starting point is 02:44:51 Yeah. I knew I was going to get it too, man. You know, you wouldn't go in a room and be like, it's pretty COVID-y back here, man. That's what I felt like when I went to that show where everybody got it but me. Yeah. Everybody got it but me. Everybody I was with. It's dicey. And I was like, man, I. Everybody I was with. It's dicey.
Starting point is 02:45:05 And I was like, man, I'm in this green room. It's packed with people. How you haven't got it yet, I don't know. Just get it. Quit being a pussy.
Starting point is 02:45:13 Your boy Dave got it. Yeah, he got it. And how's he doing? Everybody thought I, no symptoms at all. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 02:45:19 Same with Raheem. Radio Raheem. What about Eli? No symptoms. He had a little bit of a cold. That's it. Yeah. He said it was a mild cold.
Starting point is 02:45:25 There you go. But I do have one friend that feels like total dog shit. He was throwing up, felt terrible, but then the next day he was fine. Is it Michael Yeo again? No. Oh, okay. No, Michael Yeo almost fucking died. Michael Yeo almost...
Starting point is 02:45:39 How dare you? What does that mean? I'm just saying. They get it weird. It started there. Wuhan's lit as fuck. They say that, but I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it either.
Starting point is 02:45:51 They won't let you fly over there. Yeah, I think it's propaganda. Holograms. Yeah, I'm not buying it either. They're like, oh, we're partying out here. We figured it out. Yeah, no, you're not. You know all those bodies in the streets and sirens.
Starting point is 02:46:01 Wah, wah. Yeah, who knows? You step outside your house, they machine gun you. Yeah, who knows what's going on there? Yeah, they have welded people inside their buildings, man. They're spraying fucking disinfectant through the air
Starting point is 02:46:11 as they drove down the streets. Yeah, but get COVID. You don't lick a toilet or some shit for me. Just join the club, Jamie. I've been around a lot of people. Look, Jamie got a cruise here out. I've been a lot of people
Starting point is 02:46:20 that got COVID. I've been around a lot of people and I never got it. Tony got it the same night I was out. I was out with him. He got it that night. Yeah, you're a superhero. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 02:46:29 It's your blood type. I have that O positive, that old school blood type. That helps. But I think it's the vitamins. And also sauna. I'm in the sauna every day. I was in the sauna for a half hour today at 185 degrees, meditating. Tim Dilling goes. He goes he goes yeah i apparently because he
Starting point is 02:46:48 showed me around his house he's like i'm trying to figure out where to put my fucking sauna i'm gonna get one rogan says it it kills kofi i go i don't know if that's true timmy goes yeah brogan said it dude i don't seriously i don't know if that's true, man. Deep breathing. See, if COVID lives in your nostrils, good luck, you fucking shitbag virus. Shitbag. Fucking make it into my nostrils. My nostrils, man, when I get that 185 degrees and I get that steam going, I'm like this. Dude, you and I have been in a steam room together, and I had to get the fuck out, man. We were trying to see who broke first.
Starting point is 02:47:22 I was out. Yeah, but that Laird Hamilton guy beat us all That motherfucker is in there with oven mitts on On an airdyed bike at 210 degrees He's an unusual human being man Like all my friends that went And trained with him at his house in Malibu They're like this fucking guy
Starting point is 02:47:39 Cranks it up to the height He's in the 200s 200 plus degrees In the sauna And then does the cold plunge The height. He's in the 200s. No, not for me. 200 plus degrees. Not for me, Papa. In the sauna. And then does the cold plunge. No. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 02:47:49 I do a hot tub. What I've been doing is, because it gets cold here at night, I do the sauna and then I jump in my pool. My pool's not heated. Oh, so it's cold? Oh my God, it's cold as fuck. And I did six minutes in the pool one night and I almost didn't make it out of the pool. You're that cold? I was real worried because no one was out there with me.
Starting point is 02:48:01 and make it out of the pool. You're that cold? I was real worried because no one was out there with me. And I was, I mean, I made it out, but as I was walking out of the pool, I'm like, oh, Jesus,
Starting point is 02:48:11 I could barely walk. I'm like, full on shivering. Do you swim in your undies? Yeah, yeah, I got it. Yeah, I mean, do I swim in my undies? I don't. Usually, I mean,
Starting point is 02:48:18 I just swim in a swimsuit. Oh, I don't. Not at night. Me and my son go in every night. We just go in our undies. What's the difference? Who gives a fuck? If girls are like, yeah, you're in your underwear.
Starting point is 02:48:26 What the fuck is your bikini? Yeah, same shit. You don't have shorts on. That's my thong, bitch. Yeah, what is that? Come on. Girls have the most ridiculous outfits. I mean, just the fact that they can wear like anal floss and a fucking tortilla chip over
Starting point is 02:48:41 your pussy and you can just go hang around with strangers. It's insane. And it with strangers. It's insane. And it's fine. It's fine. It's just a thong. And the heels. You could literally see your whole ass. Everything but your asshole. Thank God. Thank God. Imagine if we had
Starting point is 02:48:57 skirts and you could just lift it up and your hog was right there. I was hearing some story about in the 1900s, early 1900s, the pools they used to have back then. This place I was hearing about, you had to rent the suit from them. You showed up and rented your suit there. That sounds so fucking disgusting.
Starting point is 02:49:17 What? I don't know. I don't know how much disease was getting spread around then. Like someone else's swimsuit? Yeah, it's probably where that's blockbuster for swimsuits. It's probably where the Spanish flu came flu came from yeah probably came from them suits well they had weird suits back then they were wrestling singlets right yeah didn't they by weird you mean awesome but they didn't wear shorts no they wore those weird things yeah the same
Starting point is 02:49:38 place that was showing pictures of that those kids like with saggy eight like little seven-year-olds the shit was falling off of them they were saying they had a baby elephant that the kids could play with that was just walking around the grounds of this like it sounds fantastic i know and the place got closed down and i don't know what happened but it sounds like a whole lot of fun life was cheap but also crazy yeah little kid would get stomped by an elephant they would just bury both of them and where's your kid i don't know what happened to kid man where are, what are we doing? There's no kids. All right, let's wrap this motherfucker up. Let everybody know, is your show sold out? I think they just released my comps because I don't have any friends.
Starting point is 02:50:13 I don't know anybody. So how many tickets is that? Probably 10. 10 tickets, so that's it. 10 to show. And that- F-A-T-K-Z.com for tickets at the mark. It's between San Antonio and Austin.
Starting point is 02:50:24 Chappelle's there. Chappelle, AC Antonio and Austin. Chappelle's there. Chappelle, AC, Malik. The crew's there. Beautiful, beautiful. That should be a fun show. And then I'm in Tampa end of February. What are you doing in Tampa? Tampa Improv.
Starting point is 02:50:33 That's the only time I've ever been approached by swingers. Oh. Tampa has a big swinger community. That's Florida. No, there's twice I've been approached by swingers. Once was in Nashville. Really? Yeah, it was the driver.
Starting point is 02:50:44 And were they hot, though? I think it was Segura. No. Yeah, they was the driver. And were they hot, though? I think it was Segura. No. Yeah, they never are. No, no. They never are. It was atrocious. Yeah, that's how it goes.
Starting point is 02:50:49 Yeah, they look like bowlers. Yeah. They were like, you want to come to a swingers club with me? I'm like, I do not. No, does everyone look like you? I'm like, I have a pool cue with me. I'm going to a pool hall. Yeah, I'm not here to watch you guys fuck.
Starting point is 02:51:04 No, hard pass, dude. All right. I love you, brother fuck all right i love you brother very good to see you man i hope you move

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