The Joe Rogan Experience - #1611 - Freddie Gibbs & Brian Moses

Episode Date: February 23, 2021

Brian Moses is a comedian, writer, producer, and co-creator of Roast Battle. Freddie Gibbs is a rapper, founder of the ESGN music label, and 2020 Grammy Award Nominee. Check out "Moses's Traveling Coc...aine Circus" on February 23 at Vulcan Gas Co in Austin, TX.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. You know how to get rid of it, right? Why? Black people. Really? That's how they get it?
Starting point is 00:00:20 So, yeah, actually, this is... Hold these thoughts. Hold these thoughts. Tell me when. You good? Okay. We're rolling? Did he get that already? Oh, Jamie already got that. All right, so finish your thoughts. Tell me one. You good? We're rolling? Did he get that already? Oh, Jamie already got that.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Finish your thoughts. The reason the.45 caliber bullet exists and the reason they made cocaine illegal is because when blacks were working the docks in the late 1800s, early 1900s, they had these things. There was a rape, obviously. That's what always happens,
Starting point is 00:00:44 right? Emmett Till, all of them, right? things there was a rape obviously that's what always happens right emmett till all of them right so uh one reported a rape and uh a cop it came up and he was there's a black dude on cocaine because they would give the dock workers cocaine to keep them up all night yeah that's when it was legal and then there was a uh a coked up black dude right real big dude i guess and uh a woman was saying he's chasing me right and he was just he was i don't know what the fuck was going on but the cop was shooting at him and there was no stopping power enough they said for the bullet so they make a bigger bullet uh the 45 caliber bullet because what they're using like something like a little over 22 damn and you know this is
Starting point is 00:01:17 some real shit because it was a crackhead back in the day i shot the nigga nine times with a tech nine and he kept running down the alley. Hmm. Different. Different crack though. Different coke. That was crack. They said that was coke. This was crack. Medicinal cocaine.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Coke and crack, according to Carl Hart, they're the same thing. They are the same thing. One just has baking soda. That's all. You're just freeing the base of the powder. That's why it's called free base. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:01:41 But you probably made it famous. But crack is different. Cocaine crazed Negroes. That's what they called them. The difference is in sentencing. That's the difference. The difference in sentencing is crazy. Powder to rock.
Starting point is 00:01:54 It's crazy. Didn't Obama change that shit? Somebody must. I hope. I don't believe it's the same anymore. I think Obama changed it. I want to say he did, but I don't know. It's funny how they have the same sentencing for crack and cocaine you know that's the same shit
Starting point is 00:02:09 they did with marijuana yeah when william randolph hearst was trying to make marijuana illegal they put out these stories saying that black and mexicans were raping white women and they blamed it on this drug they blamed it on marijuana when marijuana wasn't even called marijuana back then the marijuana was a wild mexican tobacco right they made this new name so when congress was making marijuana illegal they didn't even know they were making hemp illegal the i what the target was was hemp the commodity they were trying to make the paper illegal and they were trying to make the textiles illegal because william randolph Hearst not only did he run Hearst newspapers but he also had paper mills and then on the popular popular science magazine on the cover it said hemp the new billion dollar crop because they came up with a new way of processing it
Starting point is 00:02:55 right she called a decorticated and so when they invented this new calculator is exactly the same kind of thing right and then when they invented this thing people were all gonna start start growing hemp, and hemp is a superior paper. It's better for clothing. And William H.W. first was like, not so fast. Really? So he made it all illegal so that he could just keep his paper mills and keep making
Starting point is 00:03:16 them with wood and keep using all the things that he's already used before. Instead of hemp. And controlling the industry. That's amazing that they could literally just say that about black people. Capitalism. They're raping everybody. Well, we got to get rid of it then. Well, they made up a name for the industry. That's amazing that they could literally just say that about black people. They're raping everybody. Well, we got to get rid of it then. Well, they made up a name for the plant.
Starting point is 00:03:29 The plant already had cannabis. So they call it marijuana. It was like, oh my God, like bath salts. Like, oh, geez, it's a new thing. What is this? PCP. You know, PCP is the same thing as ketamine? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I didn't know that either. Yeah, ketamine, special K. When I went to Australia, that's all the bitches were snorting. They ain't had no real cocaine. But it's a tranquilizer. They was snorting all ketamine. They said, you want some Coke? I said, that ain't real cocaine.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I said, we are all the way in Australia. We are thousands of miles from Columbia. You don't have real cocaine here. I don't believe it. They don't get real cocaine in Australia? No, no. They snorting special K. Really?
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yes, ketamine. What about the UK? Every time I go out there, they always have coke, but I'm like, there's no way. You know what? All the big Colombian drug dealers, they ain't fucking with America no more. They going to Europe. It's easier. Easier to import the drugs. Really? Yeah. They making way more money and
Starting point is 00:04:19 you get less time. When I was locked up in Europe, you know what I'm saying? For that bullshit I was locked up for? Yeah, that's crazy. Like, it was guys in the cell that was there on drug offenses, and I'd be like, damn, how much you get called for? They're like, man, I got called with, like, four keys. And I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I'm like, well, how much time you about to get? He's like, 18 months. I'm like, what? The way it should be. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. But you get called that over here. You're doing 18 years.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Kellen Winslow Jr. is getting 14 years for rape. Who is? Kellen Winslow Jr. Kellen Winslow's son, right? He played for Miami. He raped somebody. He gave me rapey vibes. He raped a homeless woman.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Oh, my God. In their 50s. Jesus Christ. Give him 20 years. He got 14. He should. I'm saying, bro, it should be 30. It shouldn't be like, you know, because if I go at four kilos, I'm probably going to jail for 30 years.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Definitely, for sure. See what I mean? If I rape a woman, three women, I'm going for 14 years. Yeah, the thing about kilos is- And they'll get rid of cocaine. The other thing about kilos is, like, it's only valuable if somebody wants to buy it. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Like, somebody has to want it. Like, you're not really doing anything wrong. You're just getting something to them that they want you're not really hurting them no you're you're allowing them yeah you're allowing them to do coke right and how many i mean if you were just doing coke that's the thing what's my yeah the thing about coke is like if you're just doing coke like real coke coke, not all this cut-up shit. This is the other thing that Dr. Carl Hart, he's actually a professor at Columbia. The dude that does heroin? Does heroin, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah, I've seen that shit. I was like, what the fuck? He said, I'm functional. Interesting guy. Oh, yeah. Because he's, first of all, he wasn't doing any drugs at all until in his 30s when he was a research scientist. Word. And he realized while he was studying these chemicals that all the propaganda we're spreading
Starting point is 00:06:11 about him is all bullshit. So he started trying them. I mean, everything's been in moderation, man. How is this open? This thing's crafting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they just pull it up. So this is your friend's vodka?
Starting point is 00:06:21 That's our, yeah, Neff's vodka. I mean, I'm not a big vodka guy. Look at this. This is very complicated. Yeah, no, just twist it off there so you get it yeah a little baby dick i know it turns a little baby dick it does yeah so nef vodka they uh they tout themselves as the best taste in vodka and i was like whatever man i'm not a vodka guy you know i remember being a kid drink that charcoal filter pop off and stuff stuff. Well, one thing that I did read on YouTube, or read on YouTube, listen how stupid I am. One thing I did watch on YouTube is that you could take shit vodka and run it through like one
Starting point is 00:06:52 of them Brita water filters multiple times and apparently it'll taste great. Yeah, they said the main goddamn ingredient in this shit is water. Yeah, that's Austrian water, yeah, so that's why it's really good. Oh, Austrian water. Austria got some good-ass water. Thank you, sir. Cheers, sir. Cheers, brothers. Cheers, big ass. To Neft.. Oh, Austrian water. Austria got some good-ass water. Thank you, sir. Cheers, sir. Cheers, brothers.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Cheers, big ass. To Neft. I can't even lie. Austria got some good-ass water. I was locked up over there in the jail, and I was drinking water out the goddamn tap because they told me the water come from the Alps, the Swiss Alps. Glacial water. It's good water.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I can't even lie. Yeah, yeah. Better than anything else they got. They got some good-ass water. The food was bullshit, but the water was amazing. What kind of food they have up there? There's a lot of pork, sausages, and stupid shit. Things to keep you warm.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It wasn't right. Warm food. It wasn't right. The jail food was bad. Yeah, they got some chefs up in there. Some Wolfgang Puck. Freddie, you were my soundtrack this morning in the gym. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:07:41 It was great. Which song? Everything. I listened to The Essentials on iTunes. Woo! Turn it up. Shout out Apple Music. Hour and a half of Freddie Gibbs.
Starting point is 00:07:49 It was beautiful. Yeah, we were hanging out with Willie D of the Ghetto Boys, and I was telling you, I was like, man, you got to listen to this album, this Alfredo shit. Willie D? Yeah, Willie D. You had Willie D bumping my shit? No, but he knows. I mean, you tell the story, Joe.
Starting point is 00:08:03 We were hanging out. I love Willie D. Willie D is one of my heroes growing up. Word. Like, I wanted to slap a bitch like Willie D as a kid. You know what I'm saying? Like, when he said, I make big money, I drive big cars, everybody know me. It's like I'm a movie star.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Come on, man. Yeah. That's one of the best rap verses of all time. I met him at the Houston Improv when we were hanging out. That was one of the legitimate starstruck moments. You were saying that. You were scared. I was like, the Houston Improv when we were hanging out. That was one of the legitimate starstruck moments. You were saying that. You were scared.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I was like, I can't believe I'm mean. Dude, when I was a kid, I used to deliver newspapers listening to the Ghetto Boys. So here I am hanging out with him in the green room and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:08:36 it's really him. Coolest cat ever. Nicest guy. Coolest guy. You know he was a boxer? That nigga knocked some niggas out. Yes. He's good.
Starting point is 00:08:43 He's good. He sent me a video of him fucking some dude up. He's like legit, like a pro. He was a gold glove guy, right? Yeah. Yeah. He was nice. Definitely Willie D will fuck you up.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Very good. He was very good. Like legitimate skills. Yeah. Yeah. And couldn't be a nicer guy. And I quote him all the time. This is the big quote before I ever met him.
Starting point is 00:09:04 You gotta let a hoe be a hoe. gotta let a hoe be a hoe that's like one of the best quotes ever come on stop trying to fix people willie d got serious ass one-liners bro if you listen to fucking uh we can't be stopped ghetto boys like yeah oh man like i'm nominated for a grammy night man but you know they had a song when they're basically trashing the grammys and that's one of my favorite songs man so you know what i'm saying like well he did all the writing for the ghetto boys he did most of the writing he did most of the writing he was ice cube basically yeah he was amazing yeah they wrote for bushwick bill rest in peace to bushwick bill matter of fact i got a crazy bushwick bill story i met bushwick bill grammy week 2008 in l.a and um he came up to me.
Starting point is 00:09:45 He was like, hey, man, you got some weed. You look like you got some weed. I said, yeah, man. I got some weed, nigga. He said, I said, and you want to smoke with me? You Bushwick Bill. You want to smoke with me, nigga? Little motherfucker running around the club.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I'm like, all right. OK, so I roll up a blunt for this nigga. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, hell yeah. I'm texting niggas like, man, I'm about to smoke with Bushwick, nigga. This shit crazy. You know what I'm saying? Get a blunt to Bushwick.
Starting point is 00:10:06 This motherfucker run off in the motherfucking crowd. Of course, I can't chase him. He two feet tall. I can't even find him, motherfucker. So he stole my blunt, ran off. You know what I'm saying? That's my Bushwick story. But I wasn't even mad at him.
Starting point is 00:10:16 If somebody going to steal my blunt, I'd rather be Bushwick Bill. That's funny. Always with the mischief. I almost had him on the podcast. Bushwick? Yeah, man. They reached out. And I have a backlog usually of a few months.
Starting point is 00:10:28 And so I was trying to figure out when to put him in. And so I said, let me circle back in a couple of weeks. And then apparently he had already been sick when they reached out. And then by then, he had deteriorated pretty rapidly. And then he was in the hospital. He had pancreatic cancer, right? Yeah. That's the one
Starting point is 00:10:45 that gets you quick and almost no one survives it right it's a real fast moving cancer apparently that got bill hicks too really oh pink you're right yeah cancer is crazy my dad got cancer right now i mean he got stomach cancer really yeah man yeah man that's why i was just saying we was talking about that diet and all of that stuff and the vitamin and the steam room and all and the sauna all that's just essential we were talking about it yeah because we're out in california and uh you you know you made the great escape congratulations i got out in time i saw it coming kids i saw it coming it's gotten no better no i saw it in may i started looking in may i was like oh this is not they're not gonna fix this i'm like this is is not, they're not going to fix this. I'm like, this is just going to keep getting worse. And you can't let them, when you let people just decide what can open and what can't.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Okay, Target can open, but the restaurant can't. Right. Even aside from that, man, just this like, I bought a house off Valley Circle. And like every fucking year, I'm fire scared. I bought my house and walked outside. Within the first 30 days of me having my shit The whole goddamn mountain was on fire So I'm like man what the fuck
Starting point is 00:11:49 I like living over here I like living on a hill But at what cost You know what I'm saying A million dollars to get burnt the fuck up I've been evacuated three times When I was living in California I'm in that same area It's scary
Starting point is 00:12:04 Rich motherfuckers I'm sorry that same area. Yeah, I hate that shit. It's scary. It's scary. You rich motherfuckers. I'm sorry. Shit. But look, we paid all this money to be burnt the fuck up. And then the wind storms is crazy now. Everything on my balcony just blew the fuck off.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I got my garbage can blew down the hill. I got to go down there and get that shit. I was talking to a fireman once when I was filming Fear Factor. And this guy told me, he goes, it is a matter of time for the right conditions happen and a fire burns right through LA all the way to the ocean. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And he goes, because here's the deal. He goes, if it really hits, we can't stop it. We can't. He goes, they can't stop it. He goes, it just has to hit the right way. It hasn't hit the right way. You saw how it burnt right through Malibu. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:41 It burnt straight through. Just all the way to the ocean. I mean, that was crazy. Just too dry. All these people that thought, well, they're going to save the rich houses. It burst straight through. Just all the way to the ocean. I mean, that was crazy. All these people thought, well, they're going to save the rich houses. The fuck they did. The fuck they didn't. Hell nah, they don't give a fuck. They can't. They can't do shit to
Starting point is 00:12:53 the houses that were on the bluffs. Who the fuck thought those were going to get burnt up? Yeah, I never thought that I would see shit. You'd pay so much money for that shit to happen, bro. The insurance is going to cover all that? Your insurance tried to cancel you after that shit yeah when after the fire should happen my insurance is like oh i think you might want to get fired some other insurance i'm like what the fuck bitch the problem with the insurance is like
Starting point is 00:13:13 when they lose 150 000 houses they can't pay out what are they gonna do well they don't have that money yeah they can't pay that shit loans like what do they have to do yeah to pay off your house and then they're gonna try to nickel and dime you. They're going to try to screw you at every turn. Yeah. Not in Texas, though. Not in Texas. But listen, we almost froze to death out here last week.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Man, that wasn't shit, man. Man, look, man, I grew up with goddamn Chicago winners, man. These motherfuckers down here crying about some goddamn ice. Yeah, but they don't get it, though. That's why. The problem is they never get ice. They just weren't prepared. I see, because motherfuckers going in the goddamn garage, getting carbon monoxide
Starting point is 00:13:45 poison, trying to warm up, doing stupid shit. I said, what the fuck are y'all? What the fuck? I shouldn't be laughing. Those people died. Yeah, but fuck them. Did people die from carbon monoxide poisoning? Yeah, they was going in the garage.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Yeah, a woman and her daughter. Man, that is the first rule to having a garage, man. Yeah, you got to keep the door open. You got to leave the fucking door open, man. Anybody that has a garage, you just know not to do that. Some people died in other storms
Starting point is 00:14:08 because of grills. Because they had a grill. They brought a grill in their house. A person brought a grill in the house and got same carbon monoxide put in.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yeah. Heating the house up with a fucking barbecue grill. Come on, man. Bro, listen. I did some stupid shit like that as a kid. I was like,
Starting point is 00:14:21 you know, because it was cold and my mom was cooking and someone was like, oh, just leave the oven open. She's like, you stupid. Now, the oven, we could do that. I'm from 17th Avenue and Virginia Street in Gary, Indiana.
Starting point is 00:14:32 We get some days, some days we'll keep that motherfucker open. That shit heat up the whole house. Yeah, it really does. It really does. My mom was like, no, don't play him. Depends on what kind of oven. If it's a gas oven.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I mean, if it has an exhaust fan. As long as it has an exhaust. Oh, we're not saying it's safe. But it was the way that you had to do things in the ghetto. Keep giving Joe these nigga lessons. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's from the book of niggalations. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:59 Right there. When it is below 20, you gotta keep the oven up. They didn't have shit out here. They didn't have plows. They didn't have nothing. Oh, yeah. And no one knew how to drive.
Starting point is 00:15:14 It was hilarious. All they did was play football, right? I grew up in Boston, so I'm used to driving. And I have an apocalypse vehicle. I had a 1995 Land Cruiser built out with a supercharged Corvette engine and lifted big tires.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I could drive over anything in that thing. Big ass gas tank, 40 gallon gas tank. I had it built because I was thinking some shit was going to go down in California. I wanted to be able to drive where there's no roads. I was like, there's got to be. I have a family, man. I worry about shit like that. I go, look, I always loved those anyway yeah because they're just durable cars and
Starting point is 00:15:46 you know they use them in the jungle they use them in the the desert you could they just they drive forever every country every third world country i go to it's a land cruise they're so durable that motherfucker's like durable in dominican that's like the goddamn rolls royce cullinan yeah Yeah When it was snowing out here man That thing put a smile on my face Cause it was just plowing right through It was like Oh we got you baby
Starting point is 00:16:10 You were tripping yeah Yeah it was like Daddy This is what we were built for It was just driving Over everything for me Damn It felt so good
Starting point is 00:16:17 You know solid axles Four wheel drive Locking differentials Fat knobby ass tires Just whoa Oh yeah you did that shit Oh it was beautiful Are you not bored out here You're not bored out in Austin I love it wheel drive, locking differentials, fat knobby ass tires. Just whoa. Oh, yeah. You did that shit.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Oh, it was beautiful. Are you not bored out here? You're not bored out in Austin? You love this shit. I love it. You love this shit. The people are nice. Everything that you do in LA, you could do out here.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I'm moving. Fuck LA. I'm out, Joe. See what Joe's doing, bro. Yes. He's starting to coast. I'm out, Joe. I've been trying to caress. This is Joseph Koresh out here.
Starting point is 00:16:43 It's not a coast, bro. Rogan Koresh. I'm coming. I'm coming, Joe. I'm leaving LA. Please, Freddie, come. Fuck my life in LA. out joe i'm trying i've been trying to correct joseph koresh out here it's not a cold bro i'm coming i'm coming joe i'm leaving at least freddie come fuck my life in la that's what i'm saying fuck my career fuck my kids oh no don't bring them out here they'll love it it's a good that's the other thing my kids love it out here they met they made good friends really quickly that's another thing too i feel like friendly out here badass dumbass kids in LA Man my kids go to them Goddamn private school Man them old rich ass
Starting point is 00:17:07 Stupid ass kids man That's what I'm saying Fuck them kids man Fuck those kids You were saying that same shit actually I remember that Yeah you were like Well the problem is
Starting point is 00:17:15 They're all into like Material possessions Yeah Fucking wear Prada t-shirts And they're 10 years old Like what are we doing Yeah exactly I'd be like yo
Starting point is 00:17:22 Let me see a 10 year old With a Prada shirt on I'm gonna take that Mother that motherfucker off his ass. Little punk-ass nigga. He's like the little punk-ass nigga that was talking shit to Cam Newton yesterday. I would have beat his ass. Who was talking shit to Cam Newton? The kid at his camp.
Starting point is 00:17:35 They do this shit every year to him at his camp. They said, he said, he told him, he said, you're a free agent. You about to be poor. Cam was like, I'm rich. I'm rich. I'm like, why are you arguing with this little motherfucker? He's arguing with a 10-year-old? Yeah, dog. And then Cam was like, where your rich. I'm rich. I'm like, why are you arguing with this little motherfucker? He's arguing with a 10-year-old? Yeah, dog.
Starting point is 00:17:46 And then Cam was like, where your daddy at, though? Why you get racist, Cam? Oh, he said that? Oh, that's a bad look. He said, where your daddy at, though, motherfucker? You a fatherless bastard? No, no. He said that.
Starting point is 00:17:56 You a black bastard? No, he didn't say that. That would have blown up everywhere. Yeah, come on, dog. But he really did say, where's your daddy at? He did say, where your daddy at? Oh, shit. He said, where's your parents at, man where's your daddy at? He did say, where's your daddy at? Oh, shit. He said, where's your parents at, man?
Starting point is 00:18:07 Where's your daddy at? For a 10-year-old? But he was, I mean, the kid was coming at him. Yeah, but you got to let him come at you and laugh. He's fucking Cam Newton. He might have been 15. He was a little older. Yeah, he was 15.
Starting point is 00:18:18 If they're 15, they can get it. To me, he was old enough to get his ass whooped. He was talking shit, too. He was talking shit. Wasn't he old enough to get his ass whooped? Probably. He was old enough to get his ass whooped, bro. Yes, he was. was talking shit. Wasn't he old enough to get his ass whooped? Probably. He was old enough to get his ass whooped, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yes, he was. Yes, he was. You had a goddamn grown man's football camp. You're here to get fucked up. Do you beat up a 15-year-old or do you just strangle him? I don't think you can
Starting point is 00:18:35 touch them kids, man. I don't think you're allowed to hit them. I think you open hand slap that little bass. You kick him in the legs. I think it's the rule of fighting, you know?
Starting point is 00:18:43 They hit you first and it's free game. Yes, but you can't beat up a 15-year-old. No, you can't beat him to death. But some big 15-year-olds. You know, Mike Tyson, when he was 13, weighed 190 pounds. Man, you know that's my spirit, nigga, bro. My spirit, nigga.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I've never heard of Mike Tyson. Teddy Atlas, who was his trainer at the time, was on my podcast, and he said they used to bring Mike Tyson to what they call smokers. What smokers are is these unregulated amateur boxing matches. And so they'd bring him to smokers, and everyone would lie about how many fights your guy had, how old your guy was. So they'd go, Teddy, how old are you?
Starting point is 00:19:13 He goes, he's 13. And he's like, this fucking guy's not 13. Mike Tyson's over there 13, built like a tank. And he goes, he's fucking 13. He goes, okay, he's 16 16 and so they put him in with 16 year olds he'd knock him senseless he was 190 at 13 and they called them fight smokers because everybody was in there smoking cigarettes and you the the cigarette smoke was so thick yeah yeah up until recently they still had those in la that's how a lot of muay thai fighters would get
Starting point is 00:19:41 their their experience yeah they'd fight in smokers. They'd do them in a gym. They'd set up, bring folding chairs. They had them at a lot of gyms. Interesting. 13, 190. There's nobody like that guy. There's just nobody. He came from the right environment and the right time in history and just had the right
Starting point is 00:19:57 demeanor to be a fighter. This is a true story. This table, when I first moved here, this is the exact width of the table that i have in la and i was gonna make it more narrow i was like well this this room's kind of smaller i'll have a smaller table then i did a podcast with tyson as he's preparing to fight roy jones jr and he was so intense he was so it was a different man i had him 10 months ago and then he came in 10 months later and he was like i'm not i'm again. If I fight again, then my ego will get excited and then I can't do it. And then 10 months later, he's training.
Starting point is 00:20:30 He's fit. He's got like soft balls and the muscles on his, like the muscles on your forearm. Everything just looks jacked and ready to rock. It was so nerve wracking. And I'm like, I got to keep the distance in the table. I got to make, because I was nervous. Because I was nervous I was just nervous being in his presence because you could tell he was ready to go yeah he was ready to eat your heart and your children luckily when I met Mike he was with Snoop and he was high so he was just chilling you know
Starting point is 00:20:58 he said he was high when he fought he said he's high when he fought this time Mike Tyson said he fought with gonorrhea. I'm sure he did. And couldn't wait to whoop the nigga ass so he can get out the ring and go get treatment. Well, he knocked out Michael Spinks
Starting point is 00:21:12 in the first round with gonorrhea. Damn. Featuring gonorrhea. Gonorrhea, dog. Gonorrhea on the track. It's like a fighter can only exist
Starting point is 00:21:20 in a certain RPM level. It's like they hit that bleh, they redline, and they can only do that for a few years. Right. But I maintain that him in those years, like when he knocked out Larry Holmes, when he knocked out Michael Spinks, that was one of the greatest that's ever lived. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:36 That's ever lived. Greatest heavyweights of all time. People always want to tell me about Joe Louis, Jack Johnson. They're all great. Obviously. They're all great. And that, from 80, whenever the fuck it was,
Starting point is 00:21:47 until 87, 88, I'm like, there's nobody like that guy. Bro, when Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson, I cried. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I cried like a baby. I said, shit. I was like, I said, it's over. My life is over. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:00 Mike Tyson lost? What the fuck? I did a gig, and I heard about it after the gig, and I didn't believe it, and I watched the video? I did a gig and I heard about it after the gig and I didn't believe it and I watched the video. Somebody had a VHS tape
Starting point is 00:22:09 and I watched the video expecting him to get up and I was like, there's no way. That's how invincible we thought he was. Yeah, but he was. He was.
Starting point is 00:22:18 If Robin Givens doesn't come into that man's life, I mean, maybe something else happens, but... Well, if Customato stays alive. Yeah. Yeah, he lost his mind. If Customato model stayed alive he would have been untouchable yeah
Starting point is 00:22:29 definitely untouchable untouchable he was so good i'm sorry to all the ali fans all the old heads out there i'm sorry but you never saw anything like this cat since well you know what if ali was around when tyson was around Ali would have been a better Ali. And that's a fact. This is the thing about fighters. They need that kind of opposition. Ali was who he was because of Joe Frazier. He was who he was because of Sonny Liston.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And he was who he was because of Foreman. And if Mike Tyson was there, Ali was a great champion. If Mike Tyson was around when Ali was around I believe that Ali would have been even better than he was yeah yeah you know and Ali might be the greatest he might be the greatest but it's a different era it's like you can't really you can't really talk about fighters when they're not around the best that you know they're around the best that they know yeah I like that shit that's what I'm talking about that's the problem with that shit I think that's the problem with the heavyweight division now.
Starting point is 00:23:26 There's no competition. There's no like, who you gonna fight, Deontay Wilder? Well, it's like, they're better because of each other though. Like Tyson Feuer
Starting point is 00:23:35 became better after Deontay knocked him down and fucked him up in the 12th round. Knocked him down twice and then really had him in danger in the 12th round
Starting point is 00:23:43 and got up and then figured out in the 12th round and got up and then figured out in the 12th round that dionte can't fight as well backing up and then hired sugar hill from the crunk gym to train him for the rematch and then came out straight at dionte and put dionte on his heels yeah and fucked dionte up fucked him up and now he'll be a better fighter now because of that so this trilogy is gonna be good i want to fight i trilogy is going to be good. I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think it's going to happen. I think one of them is going to fight Joshua.
Starting point is 00:24:07 You know what I'm saying? I don't know what's up with Deontay Wilder. I don't know where he goes from here, actually, to be honest. Don't sleep on Andy Ruiz. Andy Ruiz is out there doing sit-ups right now. He's like, I fucked up. I know I fucked up. Look, Andy Ruiz has some of the fastest fucking hands I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Big Mac Andy? Yeah. He's a bad motherfucker, dude. He is a bad motherfucker, though. I mean, he beat Anthony, yeah. He can take it. He is. He's got a rock chin.
Starting point is 00:24:31 He's got a chin, yeah. That always helps. Said he could take that shit up. He's just got to get his shit together. Yeah. You know who my favorite boxer is right now, though? Who? Bud Crawford.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Oh, that's our bud. Yeah. It's all about Bud. He's one of the best of all time. He's the best, man. One of the best of all time. One of the best. Because he switch hits like Marvin Hagler.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Right, exactly. He's like one of the only guys in all of boxing that can fight just as good Southpaw as Orthodox. Right. I would love to see Floyd fight him. Yeah, but Floyd wouldn't do it. True, right? Yeah. He's past his prime.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Floyd's fighting YouTube stars now. Right, I would have loved. He should. He's fighting YouTube stars now. Right. I would have loved. He should. He's going to make $30 million. But do you think that Bud would have beat him? Yeah. You know what? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I think that would have been an amazing fight. I mean, Floyd's defense is Hall of Fame. It's probably top two in the history of boxing. It is. We're talking about a guy who's 50-0, 49 in Conor McGregor. He's 50-0. Right? That's not fair. The guy's had zero professional boxing fights, and that's your 50? Yeah, that's not fair McGregor. He's 50-0. That's not fair.
Starting point is 00:25:25 The guy's had zero professional boxing fights, and that's your 50. But you're talking about literally, if boxing is the art of hitting and not being hit, he's the best of all time. He's the best of all time. Better than Sugar Ray. Yeah, literally been hit hard maybe four times his whole career. Floyd's the best. And figured out a way to get people to pay, even though he's winning by decisions. Just talk a lot of shit, show a lot of money, and everybody wants you to lose, but you still
Starting point is 00:25:53 beat everybody. Still beat everybody. Just wasn't flashy. He's the best. He wouldn't knock nobody out. Yeah. But he did when he was younger. He did when he was younger, but he broke his hands a lot.
Starting point is 00:25:59 When he was pretty boy Floyd, he knocked a lot of fucking people out. First of all, he knocked Ricky Hatton out when everybody thought Ricky Hatton was going to get him. Yeah, that was ill, too. Yeah, dude. Floyd's one of the greatest of all time, if not the greatest of all time. I think he's the greatest. I think he's the greatest. Really?
Starting point is 00:26:13 Yeah, because boxing is legitimately about hitting and not being hit, and no one's done it better. That's true. No one's done it better than him. Yeah, no one's done it better. Like you said, his defense is number one of all time. And his understanding of boxing, he one's done it better. Like you said, his defense is number one of all time. And his understanding of boxing. He's impregnable. I mean, he's
Starting point is 00:26:30 been hit and he can take it. That's the other thing. Mike Donah hurt him. Sugar Shane Mosley hurt him. I thought that that was going to be the one that was going to really... I love Shane Mosley. Yeah, Shane had an ascension for a second,
Starting point is 00:26:46 and then it just kind of just... Like I said, they can only operate at that RPM for so long. Nobody can maintain it. And just training camps. Training camps, it's like, if you're working out, you could work out all year long, but you can't train all year long. You're ramping yourself up. It's like this delicate balance of peaking and you your body can only do so
Starting point is 00:27:09 much of it and then it needs a break yeah you can't over train can't yeah and a lot of guys do a lot of guys do they want it so bad they over train yeah they want to be harder they want to be disciplined and they wind up brutalizing their body and they they come into fights compromised in the UFC it happens more often I was gonna say yeah I to say, yeah. I mean, it just happened to Conor, really. Not really. No. You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:27:27 No, no, no, no. He was in leg kicked. Oh, yes. He got fucked up in that shit. He got fucked up. He got fucked up. Dustin Poirier is a beast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:36 You've been saying this, actually. He is. I've been listening. I'm like, yeah, you've been saying this about Dustin for a second. Just him being from fucking Louisiana, his attitude is just so fiery, dog. I love his energy. You know what I'm saying? He's legit as fuck.
Starting point is 00:27:48 He's definitely legit. He whooped Conor's ass. Yes, he did. He whooped his ass. He figured out a way. Look, that low calf kick, that's like a new element in MMA, and a lot of guys are using it. It just brutalizes your leg. You can't move.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah, you can't walk. There's no meat down there. There's no meat. It's all bone. It's like, like look at your forearm and then imagine someone hitting your forearm with a bat right like there's nothing there to protect you if you get hit in the shoulder with a bat it's not as bad but if you get hit in the forearm like right here like right above the wrist oh yeah that's what it's like getting kicked in the calf right so it's like now imagine just do that with your hand that hurts yeah now imagine a big
Starting point is 00:28:25 man like dustin poirier slamming that shin whack whack right into that spot right all that weight behind it oh and skill and speed and torque right right yeah it's horrible it's a crazy new move i wanted to see connor fight Khabib again. Yeah, but Khabib's in a good spot. He don't have to do shit. If I was Khabib, I wouldn't do shit either, though. He might come back. But that's the custom model thing with him.
Starting point is 00:28:54 His pops is gone, so it's like, why do it? Well, it's not just that. He promised his mother. Look, Khabib drives a Toyota pickup truck. Do you know that? Lives in the same house. He's just a normal living dude doesn't dress flashy at all which means he's gonna win all the time he's real man yeah he is real i mean the motherfucker wrestled bears dog that's what i'm saying did legitimately that'll always keep you hungry but i can't be the bear yeah as a child
Starting point is 00:29:19 dog so i mean like i looked at him and i was like yeah this is probably one of the most toughest individuals in the world. You know what I'm saying? So disciplined and so religious. Absolutely dedicated to his religion. I mean, shit, you got to be. Them motherfuckers are Muslim in goddamn Ukraine. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:36 It's freezing. Ain't shit going on out there. They're just tough people anyway. They're mountain people. They live in the mountains of Dagestan. Bro, there's an invasion of Dagestan in the UFC right now. Invasion. That's crazy. There's so many of those guys coming over and they're all
Starting point is 00:29:50 savages. Is that poor country? I don't know. Poor countries always seem to like, when they come up, you know what I mean? I can't imagine it's wealthy. Poor conditions, period, produce fighters. You know what I'm saying? Look at Conor, shit. Exactly. There's a video go to Shannon the Canon
Starting point is 00:30:07 Briggs oh my god watching this morning go to his Instagram he reposted a photo of Jack Dempsey where Jack Dempsey was talking about what it was like growing up and you know working and all the shit that he had it in door and bad food and this is why I say Bill Russell is the greatest of all time look at that right there that's jacked in and by the way that's the man that mike tyson idolized the most yeah in fact mike mike tyson even cut his hair like jack dempsey yep yeah look at look at what shannon says some of y'all tender because you never worked hard you cocoa butter skin soft you gotta get out there and get tough join a boxy gym take up mixed martial arts before it's too late.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Ask yourself, can I run three to five miles right now if I had to so that I could survive? Can you fight three to five minutes hard without dying from exhaustion? Be tougher. Prepare. Let's go champs. Let's go champs. That's real shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:00 That's real shit. So it says there with Jack Dempsey, if you scroll down, he said, we ate poorly, we had very few clothes, we worked too hard, I fed pigs, chopped wood, worked in a sugar beet fields, shined shoes in barbershops, helped pitch circus tents and move heavy equipment and even shoveled dung. But all in all, I don't regret having grown up that way. It made me tough and well prepared for the life ahead. I was never ill or down with sickness.
Starting point is 00:31:28 My body became tough as leather. That was a horrific man. If you were staring across the ring from him, the people were just different animals back then at the turn of the century. They were. They were fighting for that food bucket. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:40 Yeah. If you're fighting for food and for your family, you're like, hey man, this is going to feed me tonight. Yeah, you're going to kill somebody. Yeah, you will. That's why Mike Tyson was so good. Yes, yes. When he came on my podcast and told me about his childhood, that literally the time he was with Cuss was the first time that he experienced love.
Starting point is 00:31:55 And that he would get this love from fighting and winning. And also, Cuss was a hypnotist. So, Cuss was a psychologist and a hypnotist. And he knew a lot about psychology because boxing is so much mental right right so he learned how to hypnotize tyson he was hypnotizing when he was like 13 years old damn one of the things he said that i've i never stopped thinking about he said he goes cuss would tell me you don't exist you are just the task you complete the task but you don't exist. So he was only thinking about, he was only thinking, oh, I don't want to lose.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Oh, I hope I don't embarrass myself. He literally programmed him into his mind. You don't exist. Only the task, the task ahead of him. And Mike Tyson would smash people. That's soldier brainwashing too, by the way. Yeah. That's what they always say. Your goal, your mission is the task yeah yeah i mean imagine being a kid whose whole life was just filled with violence and crime
Starting point is 00:32:52 and horrific abandonment and just pain and then all of a sudden you find this one thing that literally you're built for yeah exactly literally no one's 13 190 190 pounds, 5'10". He was born to box. But just a complex individual, man. Mike Tyson slept in a bed with his mom when he was like 15 years old. Yeah, man. The emotional trauma that was happening in the 70s.
Starting point is 00:33:14 You know what I'm saying? That's crazy. You know what I'm saying? And I don't know if... I wouldn't say it was anything sexual or anything. No, just fucked up. No, it's just... You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:23 Wanted to be near his mother. Also, a very complex guy in his understanding of history. All the conquerors. I asked him about Genghis Khan. His name was Temujin. He goes into the whole story of Genghis Khan. He knows
Starting point is 00:33:39 where were you born? You know what I'm saying? What city were you born in? That's how he can talk to you about Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great or any of those conquerors. Right. When he started on that path, man, he was all in. All in. One of the great cultural moments of my childhood, like growing up, was watching the ascent of Mike Tyson. Yes, definitely.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I guess I wasn't a child. I was in my early 20s. You know, I think he's like one year older than me. So he won the title when he was 20, so I was 19. And I remember like seeing him, it was like, oh my God. Like so different than everybody else. So different. Because the heavyweight division had gotten boring.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah, I'd heard. Yeah, after Ali retires, basically, right? Foreman is getting kind of fat. Nobody gave Larry Holmes his due. Nobody. Never did. But why would you? There was nobody then.
Starting point is 00:34:33 But it's not true. It's not true. He fought Ernie Shavers. He fought good guys. He fucked up Jerry Cooney when Jerry Cooney was pretty good. He beat a lot of good guys, but he had also beat Ali.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And everybody hated him for beating Ali. That's true. People forgot how good Larry Holmes was. Yeah, I don't think about it because Mike Tyson beat the shit out of him quick. He did. He fucked him up. But that was how good Tyson was. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And this is what I'm saying. I'm like, I don't know, man. I just think that there's nobody in that prime that's better than that guy. And I'm sorry, Ali, Jack Johnson, Dempsey, Joe Louis fans, but that's the guy. Jack Johnson was something different, though, man. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they're fighting bare-fisted, man.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And racist. Basically. And fighting racism. Well, that's why I always say when they talk about goats, like LeBron, Jordan, all these You kind of can't do it. You can't. Because you can't talk about those cats before the segregation era. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah. Because they're dealing with the ankle weights of segregation. You know what it's almost like? It's trying to give the Academy Award of all movies to one movie. Exactly. How can you do that? Right. There's so many great movies.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Citizen Kane's pretty good, though. It's a goddamn good movie. Especially if you consider the time that it was made. By the way, that's about William Randolph Hearst. Exactly. The same guy who made Weed Illegal. That's crazy.'s crazy harry insliger in the 1930s that's crazy yeah it is crazy but what you look at their eras like lenny bruce if you try to listen to a lenny bruce cd today they're not that good in not not that they're not that good but it doesn't hold up it's not going to make you laugh it It's fascinating historically because you've got to think of the guy. They couldn't say that back then.
Starting point is 00:36:07 He was going to jail for us, basically. He planted the seeds. He was Jesus. He planted the seeds. Carlin also went to jail for us. I think Pryor went to jail for that same kind of shit. Didn't he? Didn't he get arrested?
Starting point is 00:36:19 That nigga's crazy as an album. Richard Pryor went... That nigga's crazy as an album. I didn't even know I was an adult, Joe. Yeah. There's a book called Nigger by... Dick Gregory.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Yeah, my idol. Dick Gregory spoke at my high school graduation. Yeah. If we're talking about styles, that's who I admit my style as, is Dick Gregory.
Starting point is 00:36:39 But yeah, those guys, you couldn't say that kind of shit. No. They were cultural pioneers. They weren't just guys who were working you know there was guys at the time that worked there were also comics that worked with them you know they had they had contemporaries right right right but but we don't look back at those guys say they changed culture you know i mean yeah any bruce changed
Starting point is 00:37:00 culture and prior for sure changed culture and george carlin changed culture too definitely they changed culture they did something that we sure changed culture and George Carlin changed culture too. Definitely. They changed culture. They did something that we'll never understand. They literally got cuffed and put into a cell for their act. Right. And then they kept doing it. That's true censorship.
Starting point is 00:37:16 That's the true shit. That's when the government's taking you to jail for it. They're banning you from Twitter when you can just make another Instagram. So they took George Carlin to jail for doing stand-up? Yeah, yeah, multiple times. Lenny Bruce, all them cats. Fred Fox? Didn't he go to jail once and was arrested in the same car with Lenny Bruce, I think? I think he got put in the back of the same squad car with Lenny Bruce.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Maybe that's a legend. Is Carlin? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think he's, is he that old? Yes. Oh, shit. Yeah. He's old enough.
Starting point is 00:37:40 He's old enough to cross paths. They were all- Maybe it was Mort Saldon. Well, Mort Saldon was definitely a part of that crew to more tall was very political so these motherfuckers going to Jeff it's yeah I don't know if I'm more solid went to jail though I think more tail all didn't but he was also very hard on those cats mm-hmm they paved the way for hip-hop they paid the I mean it's basically the two live crew of it all like they're saying hey why
Starting point is 00:38:01 can't we say shit like cats went to jail for this kind of shit you know you can say anything well by the time I prior came along he was like the best example being undeniable he was so good and raw so raw so different like fearless no one was that honest right he would do jokes about him being on fire right i mean the guy got out of the hospital almost fucking died free died but no correct later admitted that he tried to kill himself and tried to light himself on fire and then here he is on tv doing you know jokes about a match like what's this richard pratt running down the street fuck y'all and everybody would go crazy and laugh i mean this is a guy that almost died almost died
Starting point is 00:38:44 and here he is his next special that time george carlin got arrested with lenny bruce yeah yeah oh wow so this we got to remember carlin in his early early early days wore a suit and tie and was squeaky clean and then he probably fucked some really hot hippie or something you know and realized these people are more fun or something or maybe you saw maybe you saw lenny a few times you know i think i've been going to the 50s and 60s docs a lot lately i don't know what it is about it but i've just been into them like last two weeks i've been texting you about some of the shit maybe but uh it's that's a weird time in history crazy time because the 50s is like okay america's a superpower like they get out of depression they become a superpower after world
Starting point is 00:39:24 war ii because they make all this money and then it's like all these straight white men or let's just say white christian men are terrified because they're like well we have everything we can call women bitches we can slap them in public we don't have to hire black people we can call them niggers all this kind of stuff we can do anything we can drink and smoke we can have side bitches all the time i have a house in new york and i live in the suburbs what am I afraid of? They were afraid of a fucking satellite called Sputnik. They were afraid of the Russians.
Starting point is 00:39:51 They were afraid of the Russians. I mean, like, maybe they were going to fuck with us. But it was like, come on, man. Well, they were afraid of us, too. They were doing the same thing. Yeah. You guys were scared of each other. But it's like, none of y'all made a move.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Our leaders figured out a way to put us against each other. And one of the best parts about it is that the formula is in the Bible. Word. Crazy. Right? The Tower of Babel. Yeah. Or Tower of Babel.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Babel. The Tower of Babel was about having so many languages that you couldn't communicate with each other. And that was how... Was it God that ensured that people could never unite whose whose idea was the tower of babel was it god's i think it's old testament right genesis that's the first one yeah yeah well old testament is this crazy shit yeah yeah yeah right you want to get deep into the the origins of religion
Starting point is 00:40:46 you read some old testament stuff you're like hey people hold on you want to how much of this you believe word this is exactly this is crazy like hold on we're not saying that there's not a god it's not a higher power yeah but this is people wrote this come on that's what i tell people all the time this is not being thank you time. This is not being against God. It's not being against God. We are in denial that people are full of shit. Right. Bro, I had a whole bit about it.
Starting point is 00:41:12 It was basically, I would never say this is no God, but I'm saying people are full of shit, and that story sucks. Put those two and two together. You know people lie. Come on. Exactly. People wrote this shit. People wrote this, the Quran, all them goddamn books. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:26 This is man-made. I'm like, come on, man. But it doesn't mean that there's not some truth to the original stories they were trying to tell. But you got to take what you get from it. Asos Mables. Sure. Yeah. You got to take your own perspective.
Starting point is 00:41:37 It's like QAnon. There's a kernel of truth to everything. But there's some shit in there. It's like they knew harmony. They understood, right? Like, do unto your brother as you would have them do unto you right like they had like they figured some things out the divine things like love and community and and just just some rules that god wants you to live in a very just way
Starting point is 00:41:58 right and if you can they're right though they're right this is the path out of barbarism this is the path out of murdering people with swords this is the path out of killing babies with arrows like a society yeah they realize like look we used to be savage because we had to be savage we were getting eaten by Jaguars and shit like there's this guy his name is Rupert Sheldrake and he has this idea about children's memories and it's a fascinating idea he said there's a reason why kids are afraid of monsters he goes they're not afraid of car accidents or child molesters or bullets how the fuck do they know to be afraid of monsters they know from the jump how to be afraid
Starting point is 00:42:36 of some shit that's not likely going to affect them and his idea was that there's some sort of memory that goes back to the time when we were primates living in the trees and we're worried about cats because they always came in the dark. Yeah. And you're always worried about a monster in the dark. Right. So these memories are like they're a part of us. Yeah. So something forced early humans to say, we got to figure out a way to work together and we need some rules.
Starting point is 00:43:04 And if we do that we we gravitate towards the divine if we can abandon all of our and if we could talk to each other it would help and that's where the tower of babble comes in yeah that's where the russian with the united states comes in i mean if we could all talk to each other and go hey man why are you mad like we don't mean we thought you were mad. Oh, bro, we're not mad. I thought you were going to say something. We're not mad at all. Oh, give me a hug.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I thought you were going to kill my kids. I just got this million dollars, bro. Fuck, you should have said something. Shit, I'm terrified, yeah. Got this military behind me. Oh, my God, we spent so much money on missiles. We could have saved that money. We could have just food.
Starting point is 00:43:41 We could have fed each other. If the United States and Russia just had that kind of conversation Like even if you're Putin and even if you're what Trump wanted to be even if you're like the ultimate ruler of What land you live on and everyone loves you right even then there's enough for everybody Jesus fucking Christ There is no reason why Russia and the United States should even think about fighting each other It's so dumb bro humanity is only here for another four billion years maybe two thousand years maybe shit if we're lucky but it's not it's not us right it's a couple it's a couple people that are living this old way
Starting point is 00:44:16 right running a whole country a couple people yep that's real that's influence that's what's up and they all want it i feel like we all feel like we all got missiles aimed at each other just like waiting. Yeah. Well, we do. That's a scary fucking thing. I mean, you've been in the streets, so it's like, you know, that's how it is. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:33 See? The difference is this could wipe out all of humanity. And we've come close at least twice. Right. At least twice. Yep. What's the point? Why didn't they ever ask themselves, like, what was the point?
Starting point is 00:44:43 That's the thing. China has enough. The United States the thing. China has enough. The United States has enough. Russia has enough. It's just we got to work it out better. That's all it is. It's not like one country is made out of gold. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:55 And all the other countries are like, what the fuck? We don't have any gold. Right. We got hay. We're growing hay over here. You motherfuckers got gold? Just give me a little gold. I want a basketball of gold.
Starting point is 00:45:05 A basketball-sized piece of gold would literally last you for the rest of your life. You could be a baller until your fucking heart stops. How much is a basketball-sized chunk of gold? I mean, honestly, yeah, because everything's going cryptocurrency anyway. If you just have this actual physical
Starting point is 00:45:21 piece of value, yeah, you're the guy. That would be so wealthy, though. How expensive would a basketball made out of solid gold gold is what like 1800 an ounce converses if you had a guess convert to kilos a kilo ago how much do you think it would weigh like a basketball size chunk of gold i mean that's that's weight bro are you talking so much weight yeah i would say about like 15 20 pounds have you ever a medicine i don't have any gold watches but if you ever- A medicine ball, you think? I don't have any gold watches, but if you ever pick up a gold watch- They're heavy as fuck.
Starting point is 00:45:49 You do. Yeah, it's shit heavy. It's heavy as fuck, right? Yeah, it's heavy. Can I feel that? Yeah. Man, that's unusual. Make sure you get that.
Starting point is 00:45:55 This weight is unusual. It's unusual. See, look, my watch is the opposite of yours. Mine's made out of titanium. Feel that. It feels like nothing. By the way, that was Martin Luther King's dream in action right there. This is so heavy.
Starting point is 00:46:09 He wanted a black man to give his solid gold watch to a white man in Texas. It's so heavy. And nobody fought. This is the Omega. Oh, shit, they trade in watches. It's a rapper watch. This is so light. This thing's made out of titanium.
Starting point is 00:46:21 That's amazing. I need to get me one of them Omegas. I love it. I love it. See? There we go. Okay. It's converted to something called a troy one of them old mangas. I love it. I love it. See? There we go. Okay. It's converted to something called a troy ounce, which is not quite the same as a pound.
Starting point is 00:46:29 It's 14.7. Hey, bro, I got news for you. That's way more than 15 pounds. Yep. Basketball gold, that might be- I was guessing. That might be like 80 pounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:39 That's- They have a medicine ball. What would a basketball-sized object made out of gold weigh? Let's try it. That sounds like a workout. I feel like 2 million. 2.1 for 100 pounds worth of gold. 100 pounds of gold worth of 2.1.
Starting point is 00:46:51 It might even be more than 100 pounds. Let me get a Troy. How dense is it? 100 Troy pounds. Have you seen that little ball that can fall through the earth that's like this little dense thing? It's like, I don't know. How do you even do that?
Starting point is 00:47:01 I always worry. Fall through the earth? It can. No, yeah, yeah. It's a ball that can fall through the earth. Neutron star or something. I don't know. Oh, wow. Yeah. I always worried. Fall through the earth. They can't. No, yeah, yeah. It's a ball that can fall through the earth. Neutron star or something. I don't know. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What country invented that? Well, the problem with that was that was a part of the fear of people that didn't understand what they were doing with the Large Hadron Collider. People got scared, and they thought that they were going to create black holes. Oh, no. See, they'd never done it before. They were trying to do a...
Starting point is 00:47:23 You know what the Large Hadron... I heard about... Yeah, yeah. I heard about the black hole creator yeah it's it's a crazy thing that it goes through more than one country and it's uh miles long and it's a particle accelerator that gets shit just under the speed of light and they can figure out what happened at the earliest moments of the universe through this so through these these experiments they've they've figured out a bunch of things, like the Higgs-Boson particle is the thing they were looking for. It's like this theoretical particle that's like the God particle.
Starting point is 00:47:52 And they were trying to figure out what made this thing. And they had theorized this thing existed, and then they couldn't figure it out until they used this Large Hadron Collider and they actually measured it. So they know that this thing is possible. So it's just thoroughly long when it's, I guess, at a microscope level. But there was also some shit called quark-gluon plasma that they discovered.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Gluon? Yeah. Gluon. See if you bought it. The heaviest shit they've ever measured ever. Like, it's a preposterously heavy element. And they can only make it exist for fractions of a second.
Starting point is 00:48:29 But it exists. But it exists, and they measured it. So it was one of the things they were really trying to find out if it was real. Like, there's some dudes that are so far ahead of you and I. They're so much smarter than us.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I'm like... They're figuring out a way to recreate the Big Bang in the tiniest little segment, like a cell of the Big Bang. Like if the Big Bang was an elephant, they can get one cell of that Big Bang and recreate it. This is why I say I still think – yeah, because you're right. There's only a handful of dudes who are on that God level, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Where I'm like, we're just too primitive to not believe in God. I don't think there's a handful. I think there's essentially the same number as – this is my theory on things. There's the same number of people is my theory on things there's the same number of people that are really truly elite at everything right at everything and everything whether it's hip-hop whether it's comedy whether it's physics there's a there's a certain level of people that are willing to put in the effort champions in martial arts champions in boxing there's a there's a certain level of people and i think it's a state
Starting point is 00:49:25 of humanity i think it's a state that we can achieve so when you watch a guy like michael jordan in his prime just like remember i remember when i was a kid i was not i've never a basketball fan but i grew up in boston and everybody would talk about larry bird larry bird larry bird and then i remember larry bird saying playing basketball against Michael Jordan is like God disguised as Michael Jordan right and I was like holy shit that's a quote if you watch him you watch him play if you watch the highlights that's what you feel you feel unquestionable undeniable greatness at a spectacular level and I think that exists in chess i think that exists in jimmy hendrix i think that exists in comedy with richard pryor i think there's levels that there's a t the tip of the mountain
Starting point is 00:50:10 that a few people get to and they just blast out some shit that changes everything and that's their quest that's like what's calling them it's calling them to to reach levels of unachieved proficiency it's like the nigga that made crack. That's why we can't really have, yeah, that's why we really can't have goats. That nigga was... Who the fuck made crack, by the way? FBI agent made crack.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Well, they had freebase before crack. Right, right, we did have freebase. So somebody just figured out how to mass market. That's how Richard Pryor burnt up. Yeah. Fuck with that freebase. Yeah, he was freebasing. Think about all that, man. That's why you can't really have goats like mike tyson wouldn't exist if it wasn't for jack
Starting point is 00:50:51 johnson true mike tyson wouldn't exist if it wasn't for larry holmes right it wasn't exist if it wasn't for ali all those people not he wouldn't exist but he wouldn't have been the same version of mike tyson that we experienced he wouldn't have the tape to study to get to where exactly 100 he's the best example of that because he was the best student because he constantly like his um jacobs what was this was this uh manager's name some uh i forget jacobs mike tyson's early manager he he died as well uh but he was a historian of boxing and he had all these 16 millimeter recordings of like you know like Harry Greb old Jack Johnson old fights from back in the day you get to watch Jim Jeffries you get to watch these dudes that exist Jimmy Jacobs that's the man yeah mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:51:41 black dude Jimmy no I think he's a white guy. White guy. Just had a wide nose. Tan. But he was a crazy boxing historian. I think he was actually a Jewish guy. Really? If I believe so. He was a big-time handball player. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Yeah, he died, I think. Oh, man. Him and Shelly Finkel were handling Mike Tyson's career, and Customato was the trainer early on in his career. Yeah. Shelly Finkel is also like this legendary dude, you know, in the boxing world. I remember I read Mike Tyson's book and then he said some shit. Like one day he was gone and Robin Givens and her mom went to his accountant
Starting point is 00:52:20 and tried to withdraw $10 million from his bank account. Oh, my God. $10 million? Yeah. Like that's, what? accountant and tried to withdraw 10 million dollars from his bank account oh my god 10 million yeah like that's what and they like why you won't give us the 10 million oh my god i'm like yo oh my god i'm like yo bro these did robin givens was something else something else imagine do you know the brad pitt story no oh know? No. Oh, this is a great story. Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt started hooking up with Robin Givens after Mike Tyson. So one day Mike Tyson shows up.
Starting point is 00:52:54 You had to follow Mike Tyson? Mike Tyson shows up and Brad Pitt's there. There's apparently some intense moment. See if you can find that. Yeah. Could you imagine being Brad Pitt? How did Brad Pitt survive that? Maybe I'm wrong. i might have the timeline wrong maybe brad pitt was before i might be wrong i think i might be wrong there we go just try to find the uh the timeline i think
Starting point is 00:53:16 brad pitt stole my wife i think brad pitt was fucking that bitch when she was on 21 jump street did you imagine brad pitt and you were banging mike tyson's wife like oh my god i mean the balls oh my balls it takes from that from that guy that's crazy or ex-wife he could have been ron goldman yes when it come to fucking bitches he could have been ron goldman when it comes when it come to fucking bitches brad pitt is one of my idols i'd be like is he yeah that's your guy what he's about as handsome as you're allowed to get right exactly you know why too because he's kind of rugged he's not just handsome yeah right there's some mcconaughey works so well too yeah yeah yeah it looked like he could survive
Starting point is 00:53:56 on a ranch right and matthew mcconaughey is like 60 something years old man you look good for his fucking age he's a nice guy, man. 60? He look like he damn near early 60s, man. 50-something. He old as fuck. McConaughey don't crack shit. He old as fuck.
Starting point is 00:54:12 That's what I'm saying. I'm like, goddamn, McConaughey. He's another one. I did a podcast with him. Oh, he's down here. We FaceTimed before we did the podcast. And we FaceTimed. I panicked.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I was like, I can't even believe I'm talking to Matthew McConaughey. The scope of this is hilarious. From Willie D and the Ghetto Boys to Matthew McConaughey. Hey, man. I remember. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of a lot of fucking people. That's one of those dudes that almost killed himself for a movie.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Dallas Buyers Club? Dallas Buyers Club, right? Yeah. Yeah, he really got AIDS. I heard about that. No. He said he really got AIDS. He got really methed, man.
Starting point is 00:54:49 50 Cent did that shit. It was trash, though. You remember when 50 Cent got skinny for that movie? Oh, that's right. He got skinny for a movie. Nobody watched that shit. No. What was that?
Starting point is 00:54:56 He fucked up. You know who else fucked up, too? The other dudes. Batman. Christian Bale. Oh, Bale, yeah. Christian Bale fucked up because he did it for a terrible movie, Machinist oh yeah he got the most death like 50 was fucked up oh my god 50 money shit 50 bounce back with power those Christian Bale did that
Starting point is 00:55:20 Batman movie just look how skinny he got, he looks kind of jacked. He looks like Jamar. Right, right? He's skinny as fuck for this shit. But still kind of ripped. He's got chest muscles. Yeah, he's still Hollywood ripped. Look at him.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Even there, he looks like a runner. His face looks like shit, but his body looks like he's a runner. He didn't get as bad as Christian Bale. He looked like a nigerian olympic runner yes like the dude is gonna break the new world record in the marathon yeah but we didn't watch that movie yeah look how he's thin he looks like starving marvin from south park that shit's fucked he looks like face is very thin he still has muscles yeah it's all definition now go to christian bale in the machinist totally different animal when christian bale was in the machinist he looked like a dead man like you can see his
Starting point is 00:56:08 there was no chest muscles he was all rib cage it was freaky i mean shit christian but fuck that dude whoa look at that that's that's real that's really him that's really how did you how did you do that he starved himself started himself over months and months and then he's eating like it was trash he was eating like a can of tuna and an apple but you see he did that and then got fat for the what's that vice oh my god that's one of the best movies I ever seen I love I love vice he's a he's a bad motherfucker that yeah he got fat for me man he got fat yeah he got fat for me man
Starting point is 00:56:45 he got fat enough he got fat for a couple movies you ever see harsh times yeah he plays like a little cholo yeah he's like a white cholo and he come back trying to get a job just so hard that she was so LA you know what was trash what the fucking movie that they tried to kind of make like that with a Shia LaBeouf recently just came out. Trash. Did not like it. It wasn't like Hardstyle. Well, he tried to be like a little cholo. I think he actually was Mexican in that shit, man. How did they get-
Starting point is 00:57:12 Oh, Shia LaBeouf tattooed his chest for real for that movie. Yeah. And he had cauliflower ear. How did he get that? He probably just had somebody break his ear. Oh, okay. Damn. Look.
Starting point is 00:57:22 See? Look at his ear. Yeah. Oh, wow. He really- Damn. Yeah, but listen to me i'm only gonna say this once the locs on too no this is what i'm gonna say right no he didn't convince me buddy no you can't fake the cauliflower ear listen man you can wear ear guards you know
Starting point is 00:57:39 and you don't have to have that shit so how did he do that he broke his ears he broke his fucking ears a lot of guys do it white belts do it cholo that's crazy listen to me man how do you break your ear white belts will do this they'll do it to themselves and with crazy people that want to have cauliflower ear they take their ear and they just fuck it up if you just fuck your ear up and you can bend it and you get a lot of guys rub things on it or beat it with things if you do that your ear starts to bleed and when your ear starts to bleed your ear is very thin right it's designed it's designed to take in sound right it's designed to echo the sound around these little weird shapes exactly well in between that tissue is just cartilage and skin and it bleeds and when it bleeds it fills up those areas and it calcifies
Starting point is 00:58:25 and becomes hard as fuck oh my god so it's not hard to do yeah like if i could do it if i wanted to do it i just used to wear ear guards when i did jujitsu smart yeah if somebody wanted to just give themselves a fucking nasty ear i have like little tiny pieces of it and shit but it's not hard to do from jujitsu and shit like that because i see all the fighters i wore ear guards all the time that you gotta hear yeah this is fucking stupid right stupid and if you do get it drain it man that's what i'm saying why don't they fix that shit because they want to look like a badass but the thing about shia labeouf doing that for a movie is like shows his dedication the guy got his chest tattooed for a fucking movie fully and then was it real was the ear real the tattoo may be real the the ears makeup oh the ears okay good job okay that was a good makeup job guys that were like white belts who did that
Starting point is 00:59:16 shit to their own ears just look at bad and you could you could see him like what are you doing your ear man yeah they wanted it like people have talked about doing it like how that this is how i got my cauliflower ear no you're supposed to get that shit like waleed ishmael you're supposed to earn that shit exactly yeah like hoist gracie and hicks and grace you gotta earn that shit oh yeah i seen that one who was who was fighting i think it was fucking um uh what's the dude that died man uh they used to fight in the backyard all the time. Kimbo. Kimbo Slice. Kimbo. He hit the dude with the cauliflower ear and it exploded in the ring. Yeah. You seen that shit before?
Starting point is 00:59:49 That was nasty. That was nasty. He hit the dude with the cauliflower ear. I think that was in Elite XC, if I remember right. Right. It wasn't UFC. But he hit the dude and that shit exploded. I was like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:59:59 That was a hell of a time. I paid for that shit. Paid for you. Yeah. He's the first viral MMA starma star yeah because that was after like bum fights yeah remember the bump fights are going down fights yeah and then bum fights was like volume three or whatever the fuck it was and then then kimbo slice came on the scene you're like yo and that shit went viral viral viral yeah that was after you went out the mencia
Starting point is 01:00:19 thing actually look at that look at that that's james thom, who's a beast. That's James Thompson from the UK. Eating that dude's hand while he's exploding that guy's ear. Plus, Kimbo's hairstyle was amazing. Oh, my God. The bald. Oh, amazing. I loved it. I loved it.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Sumo slice. Yeah, rest in peace, Kimbo Slice. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. And listen, man, that guy had tremendous courage because he entered the Ultimate Fighter when he was uh already like a superstar online right you know already did you ever see that fight with him and sean gannon nah oh dude one of listen to me one of the greatest fights in the history of all fights
Starting point is 01:00:58 that people have fought really this is how crazy you're saying this is why this is why because kimbo slice was an internet legend and he was fighting these guys bare knuckle. And Sean Gannon is a cop in Boston who's also an MMA fighter. So they go into this fucking gym. I mean, this gym is all kinds of fucked up. This is in Massachusetts. A bunch of people stand around betting on it. And Kimbo Slice and Sean Gannon go to war.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Go to war. But, see, Sean Gannon, like, you literally can't beat this guy enough. He won't quit, especially at this time. So Kimbo's punched his face up, but Sean's been in a bunch of mixed martial arts fights. So he gets— He just keeps going. He knows—and, by the way, this is only boxing, right? They're not allowed to kick. They're not allowed to do anything else.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And Shawn could kick him and strangle him if he wanted to. And they got into a situation where there was a clinch. And when Shawn got him in a clinch, they said, no, no, no, no fucking choking. No fucking choking. And they all run back onto the set, like onto the gym area. It was madness, dude. It's fucking madness. So Kimbo got tired because sean gannon's not going
Starting point is 01:02:06 anywhere so here's sean gannon hits with knee and everybody freaks out no no fucking knees no fucking knees see this they're like no no only hands only hands okay and so he said no no you just said only stand up well stand up means knees and they didn't agree so they figured it out they went back to fighting and eventually eventually Kimbo was just collapsing. And Shawn beats him up and Kimbo falls to the floor. This was wild shit. And the reason why I'm saying this is not because it's the greatest technical fight or the two best fighters ever. It was one of the greatest fights because it was one of the first times that people got together on the internet and made something crazy happen.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Like all those dudes standing around were there live there's maybe 20 people like a cockfight but it's not because it's really like they made rules like you could go to the ground and like i forget what the count was but it wasn't 10 it was really fucking long so if like kimba went down at one point in time and they gave him a count it's just wild this is wild shit man look how close everybody is well these guys are literally fighting for their lives they go to the ground and gannon gets on top of kimbo and he's beating him down and eventually they stop and literally kimbo's almost dead and gannon's almost dead and gannon's head at the end of this looks like a meat
Starting point is 01:03:20 a pumpkin basically looked like a roast like a rib roast a giant rib roast it was cool look at his face yeah it's crazy look at that giant hematoma over his eyebrow dude he's like the elephant man look at him damn crazy oh my god look at that insane he took it he took it though and they filmed it and they did this like at a gym and they gambled this is how they did this like i don't remember what the stakes were but like one guy was this dude who was like uh he was a porn producer in miami and he was bankrolling kimbo and bringing kimbo everywhere and then there was some unquote you know some sketchy characters in massachusetts right he got behind this and if i remember i think sean gannon might have lost his job as a cop because of this. Damn. See if that's true.
Starting point is 01:04:06 He eventually fought in the UFC. That's dope. Okay, good. The dude was legit. But, dude, they fought to death's door. They fought to death's door. They did. They did. To death's door.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I remember in high school. So, you know Coach T, right? Yeah. I remember I told you this story last time, actually. He always told me, because people always wanted to fight him because he was the big you know he's the big guy you know right and uh but he would never fight anybody but everyone's always trying to fuck with him and then uh he was like there's only one guy i won't fight and this is a kid named jason brady he said i never fight i'm like why he's like you could beat anybody's ass like i've seen you literally knock dudes out and then be
Starting point is 01:04:38 like i told you this is gonna happen and knock him out again you know what i mean he was those kind of he was kimbo slice and then coach said one time, I will never fight this cat, Jason Brady, because Jason won't stop. Those guys are scary. That's what he said. He's just like, you don't want to fight a nigga
Starting point is 01:04:51 that's going to keep fighting you. He's like, because I can knock you out, you're going to wake up and want to keep fighting me every day. And I don't have time to fight you every day. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:58 I had a nigga that, we got in a fight when I was 17. Yeah. And like, every time that we saw each other until we was about 28, we had a fight when I was 17 and like every time that we saw each other till we was about 28 we had a fight
Starting point is 01:05:08 what just hands though no weapons it had to be at least like 15 fights so it was just like until we got to the point we saw each other
Starting point is 01:05:17 in the mall with our kids and we was just like hey man can we drop this shit I had those in my coins you know what I'm saying I'm like can we stop this shit man cause I'm gonna fuck you up again man and in my court you know what I'm saying I'm like
Starting point is 01:05:25 can we stop this shit man cause I'm gonna fuck you up again man and I don't you know what I mean so he probably beat my ass probably like three times out of the 15
Starting point is 01:05:32 you know what I'm saying cause he caught me off guard you know what I'm saying but for the but for the most part I was whooping his ass for years and he was just like
Starting point is 01:05:39 hey man let's just stop this shit seriously though respect that you guys kept it to just fights yeah we definitely kept it to fights after all those years and never didn't murder each other that's what i'm saying like that's actually crazy that's why i fuck with him he my number one enemy
Starting point is 01:05:50 shout out to you your puss ass they're gonna whoop your ass again oh no i'm 12 and 3 against your punk ass as long as dudes can keep it to just fighting That motherfucker whooped my ass in front of my mama one day We sent it to the table What'd she say? She said damn bitch ass nigga you got your ass whooped Your mother said that too? She was like damn what the fuck wrong with you nigga That nigga we was at restaurant
Starting point is 01:06:17 Yeah she's like why you let that nigga whoop you like that Mama Gibbs said that? My mama ain't no bitch ass nigga, man. That's what it sounds like. That's what it sounds like. She ain't help me either. She said, hey, bitch ass, you better stand up. And I said, damn.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Wow. All right. I said, mama, I'm looking at you like, damn, bitch. You ain't going to help me? What's she going to do? Let me get my ass whooped? It's another man. It ain't no man.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Motherfucker's 15 or some shit like that. Little nigga, man. We was teenagers. We was like 17 or something like that. He whooped my ass at the restaurant, at the table with my mama sitting right there with me and she didn't help me. Hilarious, bro. Now, you know that for most people listening to this, you're going to think that is crazy.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Right? You know that. And most people are going to think like, my life is not that hard. My life was never that hard. Yeah. She didn't even say, hey, stop hitting. She said, whoop that nigga yeah and i couldn't do it i couldn't handle him that day think about that now think about being jack
Starting point is 01:07:11 johnson see right think about the levels that that guy had to go through yeah in the turn of the century as the heavyweight champion of the world the first black heavyweight champion imagine imagine what he had to go through. Like all of our trials and tribulations. Oh, my God, I got cold here for a week. All this shit that we have to deal with today. I barely had any cell service. All this shit that we have to deal with, as horrible as it is for the people that we lose.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Overall, it's so easy in comparison to back then then it's so easy way easy way we have anxiety and depression is because we don't fight lions tigers and bears anymore we're not fighting all that crazy shit back in the day so now it's like we're fighting just ourselves a lot because we're the kings of the mountain we just have to work out that's all it is yeah i'm telling you right now i'm telling you right now it's my own personal experience, the people that are filled and riddled with anxiety, the people that can't handle the existential angst of your fucking temporary existence on this weird planet flying through the galaxy. Rock spinning.
Starting point is 01:08:19 You got to work out. Yeah, too. It's a stress reliever, man. Blow it out of your system. Your body has requirements, man. Your body has some fucking requirements. And if you don't give your body those requirements, it starts to reject you. It starts to get angry at you
Starting point is 01:08:31 and it creates problems. It's a relationship. I stop fucking with bitches that don't work out. Exactly. You can't condone that behavior. Yeah, I'm like, bitch, you don't do nothing with that shit. That's what I'm saying. Surgery is not the answer, bitch. Oh, that's the wrong answer. My baby mama just asked me to get some new surgery shit for her because she just had a baby. I don't give a fuck, bitch.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I said, bitch, what the fuck I care about? I don't give a fuck if your titties hit the floor. I already got the pussy. Wow. That's your baby mama. So? Well, I can't condone that. I know you can.
Starting point is 01:09:02 We can't condone that. That's why, see, that's what I'm saying. Black dudes, we got baby mamas. You got a wife. I'm going to get a't condone that. That's what I'm saying. Black dudes, we got baby mamas. You got a wife. I'm going to get a wife soon though. Kevin Federline I think kind of broke that mold, didn't he? With Britney. Kevin Federline is the
Starting point is 01:09:15 quintessential white baby daddy. He is the nigga that we strive to be. Him and Tom Arnold when he married Roseanne. Those are the goats. But he got paid. Tom Arnold got paid. They both got paid. Like Roseanne. Those are the goats. But he got paid. Tom Arnold got paid. They both got paid. Like a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Those are our goats, right? Those are our goats. That's our Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. I mean, in terms of men making money off of a divorce. Kevin Federline is sitting in LA chilling.
Starting point is 01:09:39 He's got a Ferrari. Right. He got fat. I don't know. What did he make on purpose? He's still making money. He make like 80 grand a month. Oh. Good for him. That's nice. He's getting that first don't know. What did he make on her? She's still making money. He make like 80 grand a month. Oh.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Good for him. That's nice. He's getting that first for child support. Yeah, child support. Oh, my fucking God. She recently won her own ability to make her own decisions. Oh, did she? Yeah, which is crazy.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Damn. Yeah, she had conservatorship. Hold on. Won her ability? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She had to go to court. Her dad had conservatorship. I think that's what it's called
Starting point is 01:10:05 yeah that's in the duck right but bro it's super unusual for a grown-up she's a real grown-up she's almost 40 yeah she's almost 40 she has children yeah and her father was in control of things like that's that's how wild she is that the judges up until now were like listen you're not ready that's almost like going to going for court to an appeal. Like, hey, man, I just want to get out of jail. I think I'm ready. You're not ready to go back in society. What did they say, Jimmy?
Starting point is 01:10:29 13 years he had control over. The dad had control for 13 years? From when she was 26 to now, 39. That's crazy. Oh, from 26? Ain't that when she went? But didn't she go crazy or some shit at 26, though? Shaved her head, right?
Starting point is 01:10:41 Bro, who doesn't? I know, but like. Thank you. Who doesn't? True, true, true. That's that quarter life crisis. So the father approved that federalized shit. You need your ass whooped, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:10:51 The father wanted someone with a vested interest in taking care of the children and the court decided that he would get a certain allotment every month to keep living that lifestyle. Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah. Accustomed to. California will fuck you on the marriage shit. keep living that lifestyle. Yeah. Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah, accustomed to. Yeah, I'm accustomed to.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Yeah, California will fuck you on the marriage shit. Oh, the bitch. Well, they don't even have to be married, bro. You don't even have to be married. Yeah, you don't even have to be married. You just live together
Starting point is 01:11:12 for a certain amount of time. That's why I would never live with a bitch. No, but California is the spirit airline of the States. Never. They charge for everything, though. Perfect relationship.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Everything works out well. Never again. I don't think I... We gotta have separate homes. You say that, but you might meet the Never again. I don't think. We got to have separate homes. You say that, but you might meet the right woman. I'm going to change my mind. Thank you, Dad. Joe.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Never know. Leave the door open, Freddie. I meet the right woman every week, Joe. Oh, no. I meet the right woman every week. Every week. You got to let the hoe be a hoe, Joe. I got the right woman outside right now.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Yeah. Freddie's going to do hoe shit. You got to let him do that ho shit. Come on, ball-headed ho shit. Ball-headed ho shit. Ball-headed ho shit is what I do. Yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 01:11:52 It is weird if someone decides that you guys have been living so long that you're married. I decide you're married. Brian, I don't like it. You've been living with that girl for 10 years. Make her an honest woman. Marriage is such a- Yeah, no, no communism over here. You become common law
Starting point is 01:12:05 married no right after seven years that's seven years seven years still real yeah if you live together it's common law i thought that was only like in mississippi or some shit like that no i think it's legit in california yeah i think it is too damn it's one of those weird ones i think this is like a time span like shit or get off the pot time span yeah they give you like legally 10 years so you got six years with a bitch you got to put her out basically right all right well i'll put you out you got to go live by yourself for a year because if we go past the seven we common law bitch we can't do that okay and by the way bitch is a universal term everybody yeah we just love amongst loved ones
Starting point is 01:12:39 yeah there's no gender is no race it's everybody race. It's everybody. Yeah, bitch is just, bitch is like, come on, man. Like, Biden always says that. Come on, man. Come on, man. I love Joe Biden. That's a bitch. Oh, you put, all right. What is it, Jamie?
Starting point is 01:12:52 This dude's Instagram stories. Two years. Two years you cohabitate in Texas. Two years? Two? Two? I'm trying to understand, though. I've been there three times already.
Starting point is 01:13:01 It might be murky, but I'm trying to understand. What is cohabitate? If she keeps underwear at your apartment? Wow. What counts as cohabitated? She keeps underwear at your apartment? Wow. What counts as cohabitated? Yeah, toothbrush or something. I'm just going to leave one pair of shoes here. For two years?
Starting point is 01:13:12 Yeah. There's a photo of her shoes in your closet. You got forensics there? The lawyer has a fucking piece of paper. Are these her shoes? Oh, shit. In Texas law, if she parks her cowboy boots in your saloon. Two years.
Starting point is 01:13:23 But Texas, I like their child support law because you can't get more than $2,500 a month. Ever? Ever. Parks or Cowboy boots in your saloon. Two years. 24 months. I like their child support law because you can't get more than $2,500 a month. Ever? Ever. No matter how much you make. Wow. I think that's the law here. Like, your bitch only get $2,500.
Starting point is 01:13:34 That's the cap. They put a cap on your bitch. Really? California don't give a fuck. They're a rape. I heard Blake Griffin paid like, shit, what? Oh, that's my man. Six figures a month.
Starting point is 01:13:43 That's your man. You remember I had him. Blake Griffin. You remember that motherfucker got bad you remember i had him legitimately funny yeah he that's what that's what he's really good he got fucked on that child support shit he did i mean i'm hearing about it yeah it's fucked up yeah you know about that shit that shit was fucked up he could he get that bitch like 100 bands a month man how much it's six hundred a month it's six figures that's that's california yeah blake you ain't laughing about that shit is you blake no that's not funny but i fuck with blake griffin though he about to get traded
Starting point is 01:14:13 but wait a minute he makes so much money that he's not sweating that i mean who knows fuck sweating it you know what joe it ain't even about how much money i mean it's the principle me giving a bitch 100 grand a month what about the taxes that you gotta pay to the government though i can't kill the government welcome to your best podcast ever joe just got canceled no i won't hit i won't kill the bitch but man that that will make me feel away i will feel like you're robbing me you have coming from the streets if i'm giving if i'm giving you a hundred grand a month will feel like you're robbing me. You have to be the thought. Coming from the streets, if I'm giving you a hundred grand a month, man, I feel like you're fucking robbing me, man.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Yeah, I am. Unless there's protection involved, but she ain't giving you no protection. Or he's not getting, you know, whatever. Imagine if that was impossible. Imagine if there was a set standard that anyone, man or woman, upon divorcing a more wealthy party, you're allotted $50,000 a year maximum, and that's it. But then that person would just take it. But wouldn't that make relationships so much more honest?
Starting point is 01:15:12 It would. I mean, legitimately, yeah. There'd be girls who'd be like, listen. I'm here till we get divorced. It's not even legal to hoe myself out. So I can't do this with you. Alimony is a motherfucker in California. It's crazy. California is a motherfucker. Again, it can't do this with you. Alimony is a motherfucker in California. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:25 California is a motherfucker. Again, it's the Spirit Airlines of the States. They want all your money all the time. I know a girl that's a lawyer. What? Again, I can't do shit in California. I know a girl that's a lawyer, and she divorced a dude, and she pays him like three grand a month. Alimony.
Starting point is 01:15:40 She pays him. She pays him because she made more money. Amazing. I said, bitch, you pay more to be a child support, bitch. What the fuck? Alimony she pays him she pays him because she made more money amazing i said bitch you pay more to child support you pay more to be a child support bitch the fuck because he wanted to live the life like you said yeah exactly but the person that's not weird and he's married for five years but that's so weird the live the lifestyle you're accustomed to isn't life about adapting like you got fired okay man imagine if you got fired from the job and you're accustomed to. Isn't life about adapting? You got fired. Okay?
Starting point is 01:16:08 Imagine if you got fired from a job and you're like, listen, I really enjoy driving this Ferrari, so I don't know what to tell you. This is a lifestyle I'm accustomed to. You might be firing me from this job, but I'm entitled to this lifestyle because I gave you all of my effort and all of my time for years. You can't say that in a job, but you can
Starting point is 01:16:23 say that in a relationship. And this is what I'm saying relationship California in general because right it's like 30 mil there's like 30 billion in fraud right is there's 30 billion in fraud in California look at Jamie I'm not 30 billion in fraud in California coin fraud no no no no Edd Edd fraud 30 billion i know we've talked about 30 million 30 billion what is edd 30 billion edd white people white people don't know what the edd is no look that's that's that's oh my god look at this california edd admits paying as much as 31 billion in unemployment funds to criminals And guess who got paid another couple million? Bank of America, because they run the EDD.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Employment Development Department. You ain't never heard of nobody that got the EDD? Oh, I know. I'm remembering it. It's an inner city thing, Joe. It's a ghetto thing, man. And it's like 70% in St. Louis, it's Miami, it's Chicago.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Yeah, it's North Carolina. EDD man hey man look talk to him a lot of niggas that's looking rich right now man
Starting point is 01:17:30 off that EDD man you know what I'm saying they got that EDD you know what I mean everybody got a check you know what I mean cause everybody was trying to start businesses
Starting point is 01:17:37 or fake like they were starting businesses you know what I'm saying and they ran it up you know what I'm saying and they was getting credit card they had to put a
Starting point is 01:17:43 god damn sign in the Gucci store in Rodeo that said no EDD. Whoa. Yeah, exactly. That lets you know. Because niggas went straight to Rodeo. They were there, Joe. I sent you that video, too, with that dude.
Starting point is 01:17:57 He looked like one of the Migos. And he was just throwing the money out because it wasn't his. He had 60-some EDD cards that weren't his. Yeah, so it's like you'll get a bunch of cards. So what they do, they get a bunch of cards on somebody's name. Exclusive. And be running it up, man.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Hold on a second. He's got that ad blocker he's going to remove. This is hilarious. Exclusive. Posh Beverly Hills stores are being plagued with customers. Look at them put customers in quotes. Customers? What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:18:23 They're paying. No, they're actual customers using stolen unemployment benefit debit cards. They're still customers. They're just thieves. Yeah. So this is where a lot of cash from ATMs is in the cards. Because you got your card, you can get $1,000 a day off your card in the ATM. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Wow, that's crazy. As police crack down and urge boutiques like Gucci and Louis Vuitton to vet shoppers. Now, here's a thought. What do you think? We know that Jack Johnson and Jack Dempsey, they had a struggle. They had a struggle. That's who they were. No EDD.
Starting point is 01:18:58 With all the resources that people have today, do you think it would be possible to give like what andrew yang's idea have like a universal basic income that covers everything so no one ever has to worry in terms of like you have food you have shelter 100 basically like they do in switzerland similar yeah similar because if we all want to think that there's like a certain level struggle that you have to endure but But where does that start? Where does it start? Does it start with you abandoning your children in the woods? No, it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Does it start with every man for himself? No, we don't do that anymore. Does it start with every town attacks the next town? No, no, we don't do that anymore either. Okay, where do we decide we take care of everybody's medical expenses, everybody's food, and everybody's housing? And then have all of our resources into helping everybody who comes out of the place that has free food, free housing, and free medical expenses. Everybody that comes out of there, and you find out what they're good at, and you help them, and you make a better country. That's great.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Yeah, you make a better human race. You make a better world. You make a better world better world this is not we're not talking about breathing underwater exactly this shit could be done it can be this is the problem i have that's what i'm saying i'm like we're talking about the food deserts offline a little bit and i was like well if all the money happened and of all the shit that's everybody's saying i'm like i still haven't seen anybody put a bonds or a cvs in any of the hoods or rural communities the sticks you know or the barrios anywhere, but they keep talking about it. We keep talking about vitamins and talk about
Starting point is 01:20:28 this virus, but nobody's doing it. They just keep saying, stay in the house. Capitalism, man. I think there's plenty of struggle. I can't spend or make money if I can't get out the house. I seen a picture yesterday with a dump truck full of food that they was getting rid of. You know what I'm saying? I've seen some of those.
Starting point is 01:20:43 So it's just like, we waste so much. We waste a lot of food. A lot of food in this country, man. You know what I'm saying? Anthony Bourdain, before he died, was doing a documentary on it. I don't know what the status of that is, if they're going to continue doing it.
Starting point is 01:20:53 A lot of food, yeah. The fact that there's food pantries, I'm like, there's tons of food being wasted. Well, if you go to a restaurant, how many times you go to a restaurant, you leave like a quarter of your steak on the plate. Thank you. Do you want to take it home?
Starting point is 01:21:03 No, I'm good. You're like, okay. Now it's just going to get thrown out. Hey, the restaurants that were just open, the comedy store had just closed, right? And they had food. They had to go back. They just had to throw it out. You just wasted all them goddamn eggs, motherfucker, at breakfast right now.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Exactly. Yeah, exactly. All them fucking eggs. You're talking, I don't want them eggs. You did the same thing, by the way. You was there. You ate the same. We had the same plate.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Shit was good. You didn't eat the whole thing. Barbecue or taco. You didn't eat that shit either, nigga. I ate all the beef. You didn't eat the whole thing. Barbecue or taco. You didn't eat that shit either, nigga. I ate all the meat. You didn't eat the eggs, though. They got a different kind of Mexican food out here. That Tex-Mex.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Freddie loves throwing somebody off the bus, bro. That's his thing. It's fun. We all love it, don't we? We do. Who doesn't love throwing? Waste all that goddamn food, man. It's the same fucking thing, though.
Starting point is 01:21:43 But here's the thing. If you know that that dude knows that you love him, and you know this is all fun, we're all having a good time, you can throw your friend deep under the bus. Oh, my God. And it's a test. It's a test of your friendship. It's a test. You can't be my friend if I can't throw you under the bus.
Starting point is 01:22:00 I can't talk to you. I can't hang out with you. It's funny. You get offended by shit. As long as it's cool and funny as long as I'm just defending myself in front of a bunch of
Starting point is 01:22:08 you know you know what it is man people I'm attracted to there's a balance you know what I mean this nigga got herpes and he's in an outbreak right now
Starting point is 01:22:15 like Jesus Christ right he still pees in the bed you know like that kind of shit I mean you know when it comes to the hoes you got a dirty max your friends sometimes.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Like, hey, fuck this nigga. I'm like, bitch, don't fuck with this nigga. He ain't got gas money. Man, I had a roommate who did that same shit.
Starting point is 01:22:31 He was so into it and I didn't want her anymore when it was happening and she came over because she wanted to see what was going to happen
Starting point is 01:22:37 and then he was like, man, don't fuck with that guy. He's an asshole. And I'm like, Negro, I pay your rent. Like, what are you talking about? We was just talking about that shit. I dirty mack the
Starting point is 01:22:48 basketball players all the time. I can't compete with them motherfuckers. They got a hundred men. I gotta talk shit about they bitch ass so I can fuck they bitch. Fuck you, nigga. Hell yeah, but dirty mack the fuck out. Punk ass NBA nigga. Freddie Gibbs, ladies and gentlemen, I recommend his
Starting point is 01:23:03 essentials on iTunes. It fueled me through my workout today. It's raw Gibbs, ladies and gentlemen. I recommend his essentials on iTunes. It fueled me through my workout today. It's raw and gritty and honest. Oh, yeah. And shout out to Instagram. Fuck y'all niggas for banning me, man. I'm coming back. Tell me what happened.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Man, they banned my page, man. Moses told me that was the most attractive thing about you. Dog. Funny. I mean, like, legendary. You wouldn't believe it he was getting away with. You're like, how do you get this shit? I was just posting all kinds of shit, like kids getting beat up and people falling and
Starting point is 01:23:28 just hilarious. Crackheads eating ass. Crackheads eating ass. Oh, you put that one on your Instagram? Definitely. I saw that one. It was more than once. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:35 He put a raccoon last week that was frozen here in Austin. Yeah. We need to find out what is going on in people's brains for real. We need some sort of Instagram where they don't give a fuck. What was that? LiveLeak? Was that what it was called? LiveLeak. LiveLeak was the place where you see the most
Starting point is 01:23:53 death, animals, pulling people out of cars, people getting hit by buses. I'm about to start that. I got that app on the way right now. The top video is a little kid falling out of a moving vehicle. Look at this. A little kid falling out of a moving vehicle a little kid falling out of a moving vehicle LiveLeak is all like the worst shit
Starting point is 01:24:08 you can possibly worst shit ever I love LiveLeak the worst shit yeah like the fucking engine blowing up on the United Airlines flight
Starting point is 01:24:15 yeah I posted that shit on my shit on my Instagram passenger allegedly kicked off a Florida flight like that kind of shit protesters
Starting point is 01:24:23 played mariachi music gathered in front of Ted Cruz. You know, really, to be honest, this ain't shit. My Instagram page way better than Live Leaks. I'd be having shit before Live Leaks get it. Someone needs to step in. I got you there late, but man, his Instagram story, they're legendary. Legitimately legendary. I got a new one.
Starting point is 01:24:41 I got a new one right now. Is this you always popping? No, that ain't me. No, that's not me I'm Cocaine Bunny Oh Cocaine Bunny That's my fake one
Starting point is 01:24:49 Yeah you can't tell nobody Yeah I can't tell nobody That's my fake one Well we won't let anybody know Can you beep that out? Can we beep out What he said it was? Just for the fuck of it?
Starting point is 01:25:00 Fuck it No no no I want to be able to Subscribe Yeah you should subscribe I want to be one of your followers yeah because he has like categories and shit that's why it's so funny because i have like the fuck and it's just like it's some crazy random shit you're like what the fuck is this listen man they're they're all gonna eventually
Starting point is 01:25:16 have to give up and let people be uncensored they have they are we have to find out what people want and don't want and if you keep people from talking you fuck up the whole thing you fuck up you fuck up from talking you fuck up the whole thing you fuck up you fuck up their growth you fuck up everybody's growth and you most people can't just unsubscribe that's that's the beauty of america that's why people keep saying like we need to end racism i'm like wait you're gonna end freedom of thought yeah but the thing is like they're doing it for profit this is why they're panicking yeah because like gatorade or whoever toyota they don't want to advertise on some shit
Starting point is 01:25:45 where you're talking about like real things people are actually thinking about like anything that gets dark stuff yeah imagine if like no one gave a fuck about about porn if porn was normal like you brush your teeth you watch porn everybody does it it's normal right and nobody's outraged how much money is being missed because of our shame? Yeah. You feel me? Look at the drug industry. You're telling me you don't buy Nikes and jerk off?
Starting point is 01:26:13 That doesn't make any sense. That makes no sense to me. It's a billion dollar industry for a reason. It's the same thing as the cartels. I was going to say drive a Tesla, but Tesla he that's how much this motherfucker understands things he doesn't advertise you don't see a tesla ad not at all that's the number one car company in america you don't see an ad for him he doesn't know it's all word of mouth yeah you know he doesn't even get a discount really if elon musk wants to buy a car from tesla he has to pay i like the full
Starting point is 01:26:43 price no one no one gets a discount no one gets a discount everybody pays full price If Elon Musk wants to buy a car from Tesla, he has to pay. I like that. Full price. That's crazy. No one gets a discount. No one gets a discount. Everybody pays full price. Even me. I made this motherfucker. I like that. Even him. I like that.
Starting point is 01:26:53 That's the way it should be. Damn, that's crazy. I say the same shit about politicians. They should move to the hood. Don't live in the White House. Jamie, I'm going to send you some shit about Gavin Newsom. There ain't no goddamn politician that's going to move to the hood. Cory Booker did.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Mary and Barry did. He smoked crack, too. Yeah, sure. You know why I met Mary and Barry? When he was just re-elected. He was just re-elected. That's crazy. After the crack, right?
Starting point is 01:27:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. After the crack. It's like 94? Yeah. Jamie, I just... The crack is back. Yeah, it was. It wasn't 94. Maybe it was after. I don is back Yeah It was It wasn't 94
Starting point is 01:27:25 Maybe it was after I don't know It was I was in the Studio It disappeared Disappeared? It was only available for a second
Starting point is 01:27:33 I think I texted it to you though Mary and Barry was like Bitch set me up Yeah Set me up You were smoking crack though bro No no this is what happened We were sitting in the studio
Starting point is 01:27:44 It was me and Jim Norton And Obie and Anthony And I forget who else was a guest But Mary and Barry Get me up. You were smoking crack, though, bro. No, no, this is what happened. We were sitting in a studio. It was me and Jim Norton and Obie and Anthony, and I forget who else was a guest, but Marion Barry was walking right by these big glass doors at Sirius XM, and he was just walking right by. He was on some other show. Someone go, go grab him, go grab him. Get him in here.
Starting point is 01:28:01 So we open up the door, and Marion Barry just walks right in, and he sits down and i and and then is he gone is he dead yeah he died okay rest of peace rest of peace mary you're one of the most famous crack-smoking ass niggas so of all time i'm sitting there and i know i know i got a couple seconds with this dude and so all my predatory instincts kick in and i'm like we gotta get right to this they're gonna pull them out of here yeah as soon as they know what this show's all about
Starting point is 01:28:28 because we're a bunch of comedians we're fucking high it's seven o'clock in the morning i was high as fuck dude i was eating pot lollipops and shit and i was like i go what what i we talked about him smoking crack and one of the things things, I brought it up really quick. But he said, he goes, hold on. No one knows what's in that pipe. That's what he said. Oh, shit. No one knows what's in that pipe.
Starting point is 01:28:53 That's diplomatic. That's badass. No one knows what's in that pipe. That's the illest. Wow. I would vote for that guy because that's a hell of a politician. It's a good move. I like what he's saying. I like what he's saying.
Starting point is 01:29:04 I like how he's trying to do it. You know what he's saying but it's really i like how he's trying to do it you know i'm saying he's like no that's tobacco you know it's like no one knows what's in a hot dog right you know i mean you see the bun you see the hot dog you tell can you give an at what what percentage would you get correct in terms of ingredients right though right now if they give you a test i wouldn't even oh my god i wouldn't even i'd be like i don't know pigtail pig but who knows what's in there dicks and feet exactly exactly all kinds of shit yeah so that was it oh there's an audio oh see play it oh yeah jim jeffries was in there, too. Set it up. And we don't know what was in that pipe.
Starting point is 01:29:48 I told you. I fucking told you. You got two things playing at the same time. Yeah, that was it. We don't know what was in that pipe. What is this wee shit? What is this wee shit? They put financial on me because I don't dip into the deal. They used that situation.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Set it up. And we don't know what was in that pipe the jury didn't convict me of anything at the vista he said that crack story started go before that because i let's see how i brought it up to him because i remember being really high in dc came back and won again right Smoking crack came back and won again, right? Wait go back to the beginning of that Mariam Barry former governor of Washington DC got busted smoking crack. Governor of Washington, DC. That's how high I was. He's a former governor.
Starting point is 01:30:46 One of the biggest comebacks ever. Got caught smoking crack. Washington, DC, you can be a mayor, but it's not really a city. It's not. I'm half right. Right, right. It's the wrong. He is the mayor for sure, but Washington, DC is not exactly a city.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Go ahead. Most of the population agreed. They're like, sure, we do. Why not? Why not a little? They went to the worst neighborhoods and found the worst crackheads and interviewed them. Mr. Marion Barry walked in here. Mr. Marion Barry! Mr. Marion Barry!
Starting point is 01:31:16 Give him a microphone right now. Wow. Where the fuck was this at? We'll be nice. We just wanted to say hi to Marion Barry. How many of many are in here? One, two, three, four. Yeah, we got a lot of people in here. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no You came back and you got redemption. It's a pretty special story. Jim Norton is like the nicest guy. Look how he sets that up. Like, Marion Barry walks in and Jim Norton sets it up.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Like, he's like nice to the guy. Let's him know. We're going to talk about your career. It's so important because most of the media outside of Washington, D.C., most of the people outside of Washington, D.C., only know me through 15-second news clips or 30-second news clips or some negative article in the newspaper. They don't know about my 50 years of service and 35 years of political life in Washington and being very successful helping a lot of people. So that's why that's important. I was walking by and I heard you all say something about being popped for smoking crack. Put that in context.
Starting point is 01:32:30 The FBI spent $25 to $40 million trying to entrap me. They couldn't find anything financial on me because I don't dip into the till. They used that situation, set it up, and we don't know what was in that pipe because the jury didn't convict me of anything at the at the vista and so that crack story started with that but there's been no evidence that we don't know what was in it i mean i was up there for some other reason quite frankly what'd you think was that oh okay that took one drag on it okay do you feel that they were trying to railroad you because they didn't like what you were doing What year did he get called smoking crack
Starting point is 01:33:08 That's a good question And who he had a camera for I don't think anybody did But here's the thing So what What if he was just drinking Listen to all the things he just said there Now I've changed my perspective since this happened
Starting point is 01:33:23 Getting older And more experience in life But also realizing he just said there now i've changed my perspective since this happened getting older and and more experience in life you have yeah but also realizing like hey the guy if he did a good job as mayor who gives a shit if he gets high right who cares if he gets home and shooting heroin he's got a butt plug up his ass and oculus rift on right and he's tripping balls on ketamine. Why do I give a fuck? Is this guy saving education? Right? Is he providing healthcare?
Starting point is 01:33:51 Is he making it safer for people? Is he bringing people together? Is he letting people know, hey, we have more in common? FBI tried to kill me. FBI tried to kill me. Well, they might have. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:34:03 How did they have the hidden camera? FBI's killed a lot of people. Yeah. As the governor of D.C., yeah. No. CIA. Who hid the camera? That's what I want to know. Who hid the camera?
Starting point is 01:34:10 Like Willie D said, you got to let a hoe be a hoe. Damn. And sometimes some gals need a little money, they'll hide a camera. True. That's true. You got to let a hoe be a hoe. This is what you got to do. Cindy Lou.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Stupid ass bitch hid the camera. We had. Stupid ass bitch. Here's the camera. We ain't smoking crack, bitch. All this good crack in here and you wanna have a camera. And the thing is, for the most part, he's partying. He's just like,
Starting point is 01:34:31 hey, listen, man. Why is it bad? Why is it bad? Does he fuck up his job? Here's the thing. If he shows up Monday morning, he's cracked out and decides to nuke China.
Starting point is 01:34:40 What kind of bombs we got? You're like, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, if he's a real yeah if he's like a a degenerate crackhead but he wasn't he was a he was a functioning but what if he just sits in a chair what if he sits in a chair what if he's got a lazy boy and he puts his feet up and he just keeps pounding that's like he keeps pounding whiskey your columbia professor yeah just gets no way worse than that guy. What if he's doing what's legal, but he's in a chair,
Starting point is 01:35:10 and he's just not going anywhere, just pounding it. How come that's okay? Well, talk about the effects of crack, Freddy. Freddy? Freddy. Freddy? Cracked out Freddy. Talk about the effects of crack. I mean, everybody handled drugs differently, man, so, you know.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Put that up there, Jimmy. It marion barry 76 says further down in the interview that he believes the fbi was trying to get him to smoke a substance as high as 90 pure cocaine damn bitch and chemistry chemist at uh barry's subsequent trial testified that the drug used in the sting operation was in fact 93 pure cocaine holy shit so they might have been they might the catfished him yeah they might have been trying to get him to die well i'm gonna tell you this right oh my god look at this they had an emt on the spot which is not only did try to kill him for real yeah not only unusual but rare in the history of the fbi barry noted as he offered evidence to support his claims the fbi attempted to kill me why would they have an emt on the same on the scene if they weren't trying wow we had to let him inhale it says at the bottom the fbi
Starting point is 01:36:21 official says the purpose of the medical standby was to provide potential medical attention to Mary and Barry should his criminal activities require it. It's criminal activities that they brought the fucking coke for. They brought the coke? They made this nigga smoke crazy? This is my problem with QAnon, Joe. They don't talk about this shit. They don't talk about this shit. They don't talk about coin and tell pro.
Starting point is 01:36:41 They don't talk about the Tuskegee experience. They don't talk about Mary and Barry being set up by the FBI. They only talk about weird, these are they'll talk about the tuskegee experience wow mary and barry being set up by the fbi they only talk about weird those are people trying to fuck kids wow i didn't i never thought i thought they never talked about that shit it's always like oh it's about oprah and jeffrey epstein but you don't want to talk about the 4.4 billion that the catholic church was tribal they're just tribal and they don't they don't hang out with you they don't hang out with people that are interested in that or that story. You know, people hang out with...
Starting point is 01:37:07 If you're hanging around with a bunch of flat earthers that believe that there's a basement somewhere where all the kids get fucked. Right. That's all you think about all day long. But that actually happened to Mary and Barry. You don't have time to listen to Cornel West. You don't have time. We're just reading FBI documents every once in a while.
Starting point is 01:37:23 But you know what I'm saying? It's like you're so wrapped up in your own bullshit. Yeah. You're so wrapped up in being tribal. You don't have time we're just reading fbi you know what i'm saying it's like you're so wrapped up in your own bullshit yeah you're so wrapped up in being tribal you don't have time i thought that i thought i thought mary and barry bought that crack off the corner that's some he smokes because you're talking about some 90 percent i was like that ain't no regular crack that's an fbi crack that's yeah that's iran contra crack yeah that's some different kind of crack ain't no crack 90% cocaine. 93% they even said.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Me listening to him talking about it has changed my perspective. I bet. And also me listening to me describe the video that I saw where all these people are like, nothing wrong with smoking a little crack every now and then. I remember seeing that. I remember thinking at the time, these people are crazy. They reelected him and look, they don't care about crack. They don't get it, right.
Starting point is 01:38:06 Now, as a grown man who understands media, I realize, oh, no, no. There's probably a broad range of opinions. There's probably a lot of people that go, hey, what do you give a fuck if he's smoking crack if he does a great job with the budget? I don't know if he did. Who gives a fuck? I don't know if he did. I literally know nothing about the guys. Yeah, if he's bad, don't reelect him. Exactly. But they did, though. Right, they did. Yeah, but I don't think if he did so gives a fuck. I don't know if he did I don't I literally know nothing about the guys that don't reelect him
Starting point is 01:38:26 Exactly, but they did though right they did but I don't think it was he bad as I'm trying to figure out maybe they missed him Maybe the new guy got in place and he was boring and maybe Marion did a good job and smoked crack, right? That's possible to write like Bert Kreischer. He's a funny comedian and he's a drunk. Okay I was like right burst was crack no damn i'll be like damn how much is how much is there a difference well one's illegal that's it that's it exactly that's the only difference i don't know if he did a good job i don't know but let's assume he did but if he didn't do a good job you should be mad at him for the job that he did that he fucked up not for the fact that someone who set him up busted him smoking crack with a fucking EMT camera, an EMT crew
Starting point is 01:39:11 behind them. Hey, this shit's fire, bro. You need to stay on just in case he has a heart attack like Lin Bias did. That's crazy as fuck. That's Lin Bias scale coke that they gave him. Meanwhile, how hilarious is it that because cocaine's illegal 93 is crazy high right it is but i want to know how did they get a virus that's 93 imagine if you got 93 vodka where's my where's my vodka bitch seven percent is water you fucking cunts it's cool it's cool as light
Starting point is 01:39:42 yeah i want to know how they got that in want to know how they got that in a crack recipe. 93% cocaine? Because it's half. It's mostly soda. Right. I want to know. That's correct. It's mostly baking soda.
Starting point is 01:39:55 So that wasn't crack he was smoking. He was smoking cocaine. Well, he thought he was smoking. It's the same thing. According to Carl Hart. No, it's not. He probably thought it was weed. He's just like, little Cocoa Puffs ain't nothing, you know?
Starting point is 01:40:04 It's different. And you ain't gonna put them He probably thought it was weed. He's just like, little Cocoa Puffs ain't nothing, you know? It's different. And you ain't gonna put them with that left, Joe. I see you over there. It's also different in, like, where you're doing it. Right. In a hotel room with a hooker, yeah. I mean, if you're in Vegas and you're in a fucking suite and you're overlooking the neon signs and you're doing coke, you're doing coke.
Starting point is 01:40:19 But, you know, we've gone a long way, actually. Remember the governor who didn't win in Florida, the black dude? Which governor's that? I'm sorry. He's not the governor. He was running for it. I forget the cat's name now. The black dude from Florida. He was running against the Santas and he lost, but he was close. He was like the
Starting point is 01:40:33 closest ever a black dude had ever come to taking governor. Anyway, last year he got caught in a hotel room doing meth with a couple dudes. Let him go. With a couple dudes. Let him go. With a couple dudes. Let it go. He just came out,
Starting point is 01:40:47 I want to say a few months ago, on Oprah or one of those Oprah-type talk shows and said, oh yeah, I'm bi. My wife is cool with it and I like to party a little bit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:57 He's like, he's Alexander the Great. But people loved his politics. They were going to vote for this guy because he's a black dude and he had great politics against DeSantis and his crazy Florida politics, right? Right. And they were like, we like this guy because he's a black dude and he had great politics against DeSantis and his crazy Florida politics, right? And they were
Starting point is 01:41:08 like, we like this guy. And all of a sudden it was just like, oh shit. Damn, you smoke meth? He smokes meth and hangs out with dudes. He's bi. But who gives a fuck? Exactly. Do the job. Because y'all liked him a year ago. Look, if you had to choose between a guy who wears a wig,
Starting point is 01:41:24 who has giant fake eyelashes, and rubber lips, but balances LA's economy to a T. Bro, look at Marv Albert. Keeps all the restaurants open. Look at Marv Albert. One of the greatest announcers in history. Yes! Likes to wear heels!
Starting point is 01:41:36 Yeah, freak! He likes to wear heels. He likes to get crazy. I thought he just bit a bitch on the ass. That too! That too! Tag a nigga that eat ass. Tag a nigga that eat ass. Tag a nigga that eat ass.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Marvin Albert. According to the document, an incapacitated Gillum. Hilarious. Yeah. Who's Gillum? Andrew Gillum, right? Had been found by police in Miami Beach hotel room with a male sex worker, baggies that the cops suspected contained crystal meth and other narcotics.
Starting point is 01:42:03 And a third man. Damn, they ran a train on that ass, bitch. A third man who called 911. A nigga smoked meth and got a train ran on his ass. I think that's what I'm going to title my book. A Third Man Who Called 911. I like that.
Starting point is 01:42:18 It's a memoir. That's going to be my book. And a third man who called 911. By Joseph Rogan. This is going to be dot dot dot And a third man who called 9-1-1. A third man who called 9-1-1. By Joseph Rogan. Ellipsis is going to be dot, dot, dot. And a third man who called 9-1-1. A third man that called 9-1-1. And a third man who called 9-1-1.
Starting point is 01:42:33 Who's the third man? Yeah, because by the way, they didn't even listen to that dude. They didn't listen to his job or nothing. They just said, this is a sex worker. This other dude works at Carl's Jr. Y'all know that dude? It was a rich dude in LA that was- Oh, I know.
Starting point is 01:42:44 You're talking about the guy who donated to the party It was purposely drugging These sex worker dudes And killing them More than one Pull him up please Ed Buck That's his name Ed Buck
Starting point is 01:42:59 But isn't there a Joe Buck Joe Buck is Joe Buck on Posse I got a panic I thought we were putting the Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's him. But isn't there a Joe Buck? Joe Buck is a sports guy. I got panicked. I thought we were putting the dirty shame on the wrong dude. No relation. His name is Ed Buck.
Starting point is 01:43:13 I'm sorry, Joe Buck. Ed Buck. Is he in jail right now? Look at him like Joe Buck. Ed Buck killed a lot of people, man. Ed Buck's trial has been postponed again. Because he's got money. And further delay could follow.
Starting point is 01:43:23 See? Because he had money because he was a huge democratic super donor yep that is delayed criminal trial of ed buck on federal charges relating to the meth and fetamine overdose deaths of two black men on separate occasions at his former residence in west hollywood has been rescheduled from next week to April 20th. Right, you OD'ing. Holy shit. Yeah, because Buck would actually administer the needles to these cats.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Bro, Tom Segura sent me a video that will haunt me for the rest of my time on this planet. And he does this show. Tom Segura does these Your Mom's House podcasts. Oh, yeah. Where people have to pay to see it. And they'll they'll stream shit there's no fucking way you could ever put on youtube or vimeo one of them with these
Starting point is 01:44:13 guys fisting each other whoa and i'm talking elbow deep it's madness i mean madness you're watching this happen you're like no these people are not going to survive two dudes a bunch of guys a lot of guys are doing this calisthenics they're they're they're having
Starting point is 01:44:33 these prolapses these anal prolapses assholes coming out this other guy grabs a hold of the two of them and rubs them together
Starting point is 01:44:40 oh I heard about this video rubs rubs the prolapsed anuses rubs them together like Oh, I heard about this video. Rubs the prolapsed anuses. Rubs them together like they're sea cucumbers, okay? Oh. Like you've, bro.
Starting point is 01:44:54 What the fuck? Those are sex stunts. You got to realize there's people out there that don't care. They think of things a different way than you or I. So a nigga flip two assholes inside out. Inside out. So a nigga flip two assholes inside out. Inside out. Like a sock. Like you ever take your jacket off and you try to put it back on
Starting point is 01:45:10 and you realize, oh, I forgot my hoodie. It's inside out. Rappers ain't doing that shit, Fred. Rappers ain't doing that shit. Did Tom find that or did someone see it and think of Tom Segura instantly
Starting point is 01:45:20 and like, Tom has to see this? You got to look like you back on Eric Andre's show. That's a very good question, Jamie like you back on Eric Andre show There's some Eric Andre shit flippin asshole if Eric Andre was free if he wasn't contained by cable television Right, you'd be able to show all the assholes. That's what the internet is great. You can't find shit like He would he would show whatever he wants to show maybe he would be less weird if he could be free Right. We like I was normal. Yeah, he be less weird if he could be free. Right. He'd be like, oh, that's normal. Yeah, he's just showing assholes being rubbed together.
Starting point is 01:45:48 That's great. You know what's really crazy? No. That YouTube has like a stranglehold on video online. Video online seems so simple. Everybody has an iPhone. Everybody's iPhone makes videos. How the fuck is there only a YouTube?
Starting point is 01:46:02 Right. That is funny. It's crazy. That's why I'm about to start Fredster. No, Freddy's getting out. He's like drifting all the way out of camera. He's got to slide over. There we go.
Starting point is 01:46:12 There you go. We're getting crazy. Didn't Joe Biden say something about low-income black people don't know how to use the internet? He said that yesterday. Even though they have smartphones? He said black people can't get online to get in line for the COVID vaccine. said we got too many people that can't get online it's so crazy you watch him talk and they can't control him they let him out there he's like a 1920s dude and they they they
Starting point is 01:46:35 wind them up they fill him up with adderall and they push him on the stage and he says some 1920s shit and they coach him he's like oh gosh darn do i said that yeah did i said that yeah 23s could do yeah he said some crazy shit he said black kids are just as good as white kids no no no no no no no he said poor kids could learn just as good as white kids that's what he said that's what he said that's what he said That's what he said Yeah And everybody was like It's okay He's not Trump It's okay Right
Starting point is 01:47:07 Yeah It's okay He's not Trump I'm like Come on Joe Come on Joe Didn't Joe fill on some asses And shit too
Starting point is 01:47:15 This is all All unnecessary Did he do some bullshit With some Hey Sexual shit Yeah he sniffed heads He sniffs people
Starting point is 01:47:23 He sniffs people Not that big a deal Okay Yeah Cocaine Joe Let me Let my black ass Go sniff a bitch Hell no Sexual shit? Yeah, he sniffed heads. He sniffs people. He sniffs people. Not that big a deal. Okay. Yeah. Cocaine Joe. Let my black ass go sniff a bitch. Hell no. You know, it's like-
Starting point is 01:47:31 They'll ban cocaine. I'm getting me too. Cocaine crazed Negro. If I heard bitches start smelling them, I'm getting me too. Yeah. It's like a wolf smelling your baby. Yeah. Like a wolf got up to your baby and was like this.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Like, Joe, what the fuck are you doing? How come nobody really talked about how Joe, one of his best buddies, was in the KKK? I don't think that was one of his best buddies, right? It was like one dude that went to something. This is top eight on MySpace, but he ain't his best buddy. It's not good. I'm not defending it. I don't think they were hanging out together.
Starting point is 01:48:06 And he's like, I get it. I get it. Let's just lie about it in front of the cameras. I don't think it was one of his best buddies. Yeah, he's like, yeah, we fish. Back before the internet, they thought they could do shit like that. Listen, Joe is one of the guys that back in the 70s was saying, I don't want to segregate schools because I don't want a racial jungle.
Starting point is 01:48:30 But he's come a long way. He hasn't been in the presidency without a black person yet. Well, here's the 1994 crime bill. Yeah. He signed that. How many people are in jail because of that right now like while you and i and you are while we're all sitting here how many people are in a cage right now because of the 94 listening to this on a smuggled phone right sorry fellas right how many there's guys out there that are listening to this yeah on a smuggled phone yeah and there's guys in jail off that three strike shit that kamala
Starting point is 01:49:01 harris was pushing in california yes you know what i'm saying she fucked up a lot of families too i mean like i don't get me wrong like i don't think that trump should have been the president anymore but i mean like we but we got to look at these two motherfuckers that we elected and be like we elect we got to understand we elected the fucking police but maybe that's the problem we need we need to have a five-star a five-party system because this is bullshit what's happening because then you just kind of funneled into these two things that you may not that may not represent you exactly but then it's also like well there's so many geeks running right like this is crazy like listen i i i don't care what you i'm not in the aisle you know that you're not in either so i'm saying like you look at a ted cruz that
Starting point is 01:49:35 you're just like how the fuck do people keep voting this guy in this guy won't defend his wife when somebody calls her ugly by the way heidi cru isn't ugly. She's not ugly. Yeah, but compared to Trump's wife. Trump wife. Trump, Trump, Trump. Trump, you had the baddest bitch. I mean, that's, yeah, pound for pound, that's probably the baddest first lady in history. The baddest bitch to ever come through the White House.
Starting point is 01:49:57 If Trump's wife was like a double-blind, placebo-controlled, studied on getting guys to leave their wives, we'd have real problems. There's something about that accent, too. That Russian shit. It's strong and powerful. She grew up in a place where there's not a lot of potatoes. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:50:14 She wrestled bears. Probably. I fucked a couple Russian bitches when I went to Russia. The Russian mafia made me stay out till like 8 a.m. I was like, yo, I'm not fucking with y'all niggas no more, man. What's your limit? 7? 7 a.m.? 7 a.m. I was like, yo, I'm not fucking with y'all niggas no more, man. What's your limit? 7? 7 a.m.? 7 a.m. is time for breakfast
Starting point is 01:50:28 and bed. 6, 6, 6, 7. They was just, hey, come on, man, the sun's out. I mean, they was just making me
Starting point is 01:50:34 go out all night. They was like, yo, you are going to fuck one of these bitches tonight, Freddie. I want you to know that. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:50:39 okay, man. I was like, dos bedanya, motherfucker. Let's get it. Let's get it. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, but I'll, Russia, I don't, I didnanas, motherfucker. Let's get it. Let's get it. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, but Russia, I didn't really enjoy Russia too much.
Starting point is 01:50:50 Nah, man. What didn't you like about it? The food. I don't want to eat no fucking. I don't want to eat no goddamn borscht all day. They invented food to keep alive. Right. It's cold out there, bro.
Starting point is 01:51:04 You got to understand about Russia's history with stalin there's a lot of people that starve to death because it's like siberia asia yeah not just that but stalin imposed all sorts of crazy restrictions on people that forced crazy famine to the point where people were eating their children this is like real yes documented during stalinables yeah yeah Damn. Wait, for real? Yes. Documented. Cannibals? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not just cannibals. Listen, if there's some fucking homeless guy who's dying of a heroin overdose and I beat him over the head with a rock and eat his ass.
Starting point is 01:51:35 Technically they did. I'm just trying to stay alive. I'm just trying to stay alive. This guy was already dead. I don't even know him. But eating your own kids, this is documented during the Stalin administration. Damn. That's some sick shit.
Starting point is 01:51:48 Would you eat your kids? There's not a chance in hell. No fucking way. I'd die. There's not a chance in hell. I would throw myself into a rock wall until I died. Right, exactly. Eat me.
Starting point is 01:51:57 It's not a chance. Eat me. It's not a chance. I'd eat myself. But that's the power of a person who's free versus the power of a person who's lived their whole life scared. When you're under the grip of a guy like Stalin, an extreme dictator, whether it's Hitler or Stalin or Mussolini or even Genghis Khan, you're fucking scared all the time. They could come and kill your wife in front of you. Right.
Starting point is 01:52:23 One of the things that Saddam Hussein and his sons who day and who say is that their names who do you know what they used to do they would find women that are being married and on their wedding day they would take them they would take them and they would rape them and then they'd feed them to their dogs whoa they killed these women feed them to their. They had dogs that they kept where they would rape women and then feed them to their dogs. Now, imagine that this is all happening while, like, fucking, you know, Rambo's happening in the movies. Yeah. And Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:52:58 And we're all going to the fucking store and buying big gulps at 7-Eleven. All this stuff is happening. And Saddam Hussein's kids are feeding brides to dogs. Damn. Damn. Saddam Hussein, those are some sick motherfuckers, though. QAnon, where you at on this? Sick motherfuckers who raised even sicker motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Right. Because he was sick, but his parents weren't dictators. He's a dictator. Right. So imagine the sickness he imposes on his children baron trump's gonna be so fun i feel like like he's gonna be so fun he's probably gonna be the best comic of all time i believe i believe he's gonna be so funny imagine imagine if he just starts going on stage with a fucking bottle of vodka. Yeah. And he's on Adderall. He starts talking shit.
Starting point is 01:53:46 First of all, I never asked for any of this. Right. And everybody goes crazy. Imagine. Or he just gives up straight Tupac. He's just like, fuck you. Your man's fucked up. Your label's over.
Starting point is 01:53:58 Your whole institution's fucked up. I love. Oh, yeah. Barron's front man. I hope. Melania and Barron areon gonna go do their own thing they don't fuck with right who knows maybe he'll make it worth their while right right i mean i'm gonna vote for him but there's gotta be something appealing here's the thing as heinous
Starting point is 01:54:15 as he as he is there's got to be something appealing about what that guy's managed to accomplish trump he became the fucking president yeah he's made billions he's lost billions and made billions and he owes hundreds of millions and people like well he's in debt he's in debt one of the reasons why he's in debt because he's so fucking crazy he asked for wild loans yeah exactly dog he's been yeah he's been bankrupt more time he almost bankrupt america i'm like this guy's one of the best. He is. He's Mary and Barry. We keep hiring him. Listen, we're all happy.
Starting point is 01:54:47 We can agree. We're all happy he's not president anymore. Nah, nah, nah. I don't want to be president no more. I'm happy he's not president. I don't want to be president no more. You're happy he's not president? Sure.
Starting point is 01:54:54 I'm happy he's not president. It's all working out. We're all happy. But what? Before COVID hit, the economy was booming. Nobody wants to admit that. I don't understand the economy. We admitted it, though.
Starting point is 01:55:03 We talked about it. Yeah, we did. But I don't, listen, I don't understand we talked about it but i don't listen i don't understand the economy but i do know that the unemployment numbers were crazy low and that the economy was booming stock market was booming shit was happening if covid doesn't happen that man is still president he might be the goat yeah he might be the michael i was making they were always like you don't even get it bro when trump got an office i made more money than ever made in my fucking life imagine i want you to imagine a world where there's no covid
Starting point is 01:55:34 and then psychedelics get legalized and we get trump on mushrooms and we just let him keep going just keep going keep going keep going for the good of humanity you already made all the money you're already the president of the world and i got some mushrooms let's get high and hug each other let's get high and hug but then i gotta hear the propaganda machine tell me that racists are coming to take me and my kids you know what i mean because that's what's gonna happen the whole time he's there well that's the russia america thing too right it's like we don't talk to each other yeah if we all talk to each other we'd be all like oh this is bullshit yeah like i don't want to i don't want to nuke you you don't want to nuke me i didn't know what you were saying i can't understand it right what the fuck you're saying bro turns out
Starting point is 01:56:15 you're cool give me a hug let's go fishing you know that's kind of i guess russia's and america's way of manifest destiny though right because it's it's in the bible right it's a it's the it really is the chinese don't do that shit it's the tower of babel it's in the bible if we could all talk what listen we're having a hard enough time with red versus blue right i saw people i saw smart people on twitter that were like saying hey texas you're real happy your fucking States read you know hope you fucking pull yourself up by your bootstraps and figure it out like there's families out there that have been here for generations they're starving to death they're all colors they're for me there a lot of them from
Starting point is 01:56:57 other countries they're starving to death too they're freezing to death yeah like there's a million people with no power what the fuck you all those liberals you're talking about it like they're saying to like to the people in your of your ilk they're not saying it to the fifth ward in houston they're not saying it to the to the to the slums of the projects here in austin or in san antonio or dallas you know what i mean oak park and i ain't saying that shit to them but they they are they're saying it they don't know they're saying it to them but they really are because they're saying it to all of texas texas could easily be like four european countries easy easy easy easy damn near the continent it's gigantic it's so big it's so
Starting point is 01:57:33 big and there's so many different kinds of people here we got hit with a one out of 120 year storm that's what they're saying yeah it's just it's weird but you can't be mean there's no need to be mean no one was mean to you you don't have to be mean no california is mean to itself it's not just california man it's everybody oh is it really yeah it's people that are just hurt people hurt people right you know that expression and people in california are hurt they're hurt and they're hurt at people like me that moved or her bro hurt, bro. They're hurt. Joey, miss you. You can come back to right here. This is the new California.
Starting point is 01:58:09 This is a new thing, man. We don't have to go to that spot. That spot's fucked up. Keep moving. It's crazy what they did. It's a shame what they did to California, especially Los Angeles, because- It's inevitable. In Los Angeles, is it?
Starting point is 01:58:20 I mean, because- This is why. The show business- Go ahead. Because they have to figure out how to defeat wokeness. The only way to defeat wokeness is to show what a catastrophic failure it really is. Because even the people that claim to be woke, they're really at it for personal profit. When you find out they leave office and they make hundreds of thousands of dollars for speeches in front of bankers,
Starting point is 01:58:41 you're like, ah, you got me, you fuck. God damn it. Right. Gavin Newsom was gifted a million dollar house. What was that thing I sent you, Jamie? Who? This thing I sent you. Gavin, our governor of California.
Starting point is 01:58:53 No, no, no. Three. Three houses. Three million dollar house. Okay, three million dollars. And then took a mortgage on it. So he's gifted a house, and he takes a mortgage on the house. So it's like you get free money.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Yeah, bro. you get free money yeah you get free money you get a couple million bucks it's a way someone can bribe you yeah so why do you think i sent jamie i don't know it's the more stuff that comes out about this about california ex-mayor slams governor newsom's use of behested payments as recall threat nears 1.8 million signatures behested payments are this weird thing thing where there's a giant increase from 226 million in 2020 up from 12 million the year before. Wow. So it was 12 million in 2019 and then 226 million in 2020 while the world is I'm saying. While the world is burning.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Yeah. Look how crazy this is. If that's true, and I don't know if it's true because I'm just reading some Fox News communist website. Propaganda stuff, yeah. Could be bullshit. Yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:59:57 But, but, but, but, there's multiple sources saying this. It might be real. It might be what's really going on. But it's also, I mean, if you just look at, and listen, I don't even hate Gavin. I actually like Gavin. I liked Gavin. Have you ever met him?
Starting point is 02:00:10 Never met him. But I liked that he legalized weed. He was a great. Wait, wait, wait, wait. That wasn't him? No, no, no, no. There's a fucking photo in my old studio of Burt Kreischer pulling his shirt off
Starting point is 02:00:23 and running around the stage when they that's not true right no it was the same podcast we thought it was the time we thought it was the moment where marijuana became legal in California Burt took his shirt off and ran around apparently Burt took his shirt off and ran around multiple times. And someone figured out that the moment where he took his shirt off in that photo was not... It was not in fact... So Knudsen didn't... You're saying he wasn't the guy?
Starting point is 02:00:52 No! They voted it in! California voted it in! In 2018 or whatever the fuck it was? 16. But he was a big advocate for it, though. So was everybody else they go like this they lick their finger which way is the wind blowing let's go in that way
Starting point is 02:01:10 me too what a coincidence what a coincidence i'm going that way okay i think he's an okay ideas guy i just think his leadership as a governor like i don't think he could ever be president because his leadership is so faulty well it's over and what i say to you i was saying with the 30 billion dollars earlier it's like if me and and Fred and you are working at the comedy store, right? And there's $30 missing from the till and Dean or somebody is saying like, yo, there's $30 missing here, bro. And that's like,
Starting point is 02:01:32 that's three days in a row here. What's going on with you? You're fired. Right. No. $30 billion in fraud and nobody got fired or died and went to jail?
Starting point is 02:01:39 You put a fucking camera up and you find out who's up. Who's been doing it? And that's how Tommy got fired. And they still haven't done it though. I'm saying like, but they still, they haven't even put the cameras up though.
Starting point is 02:01:48 No, no, no, they haven't. They don't give a fuck. This is what I'm saying about it. I'm like, yo, show business is the number one form of economy in California, right? Yeah. And it's in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 02:01:58 And we talked this offline. It was like, the whole reason Los Angeles exists is because of Hollywood, right? So you have show business, you have the tourism that show business brings in from all the people coming from all the places. You have the service industry that caters to the people who are coming in, the actors, actresses, the dreamers who work in these places or are serving these people.
Starting point is 02:02:14 And you have the hospitality service that does the same thing. Now, you're saying, okay, you guys make $813 billion, $900 billion a year for us. Eh, I don't really want to serve you guys. I'm going to serve the big tech companies or the farming industry in these other places, these blue collar type of things or this white collar shit that the big techs do. But Hollywood, you guys are dreamers. Fuck you.
Starting point is 02:02:32 Fuck your restaurants. Fuck your hotels. Fuck your homeless problem. And fuck your tourism, Los Angeles. And the thing, it's 120,000 people on the fucking streets in Los Angeles. It is. And they're keeping us in the house
Starting point is 02:02:44 saying like, stay in the house. I got comics telling me, stay in the fucking house in Los Angeles. It is. And they're keeping us in the house saying, like, stay in the house. I got comics telling me, stay in the fucking house. Don't do outdoor shows. It's just upsetting. I can't even be funny about it. But those comics, are any of them any good? I don't think they are. Some are, some aren't.
Starting point is 02:02:55 But it's like. Name one. Name them. I'm not going to name no names. James! They're all mediocre. Yeah, but they're all saying, like, stay in the house, don't earn a living. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:03:04 Who's telling you what to do and why? It's not me. But who? It's the they're all saying, like, stay in the house, don't earn a living. You know what I mean? Who's telling you what to do and why? It's not me. But who? It's the scene they're saying, like, hey, you guys shouldn't open. Who's not confused? Who's not unsure? Who's not conflicted? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:16 I am. Yeah. I am. That's why you came here. Listen, I'm conflicted. I'm not so sure of what I can tell you to do, but I'll tell you what I do. But there's so many people that are telling you what to do. All the time.
Starting point is 02:03:29 Why are you telling me what to do when I know you're a pussy? Right. I know you're a pussy. Yeah. I know if shit gets crazy, you're gonna cry. Yeah. Like I saw... And you're telling everybody what to do?
Starting point is 02:03:42 Especially about something we have almost a year of data on thank you and that's where i'm coming from it's like yo it's been it's almost been 12 months coming in march 11th right right 19th or whatever it'll be a year yeah you can't tell me at this point that we know what's going on we see the day that's happening you stop telling me stay in the fucking house there's so many there's so many variables yeah there's so many variables there's so many people that have been cowards their whole life and they're on facebook and they're talking on facebook and you read their words and their words seem like a normal person right but it's not you and it's i've known you for more than a decade yeah i know you yeah i know you i i've only known you for a couple hours and i fucking know you right i know
Starting point is 02:04:26 you yeah there's some people you don't know word and those fucking people are just like why are you doing shows why aren't you hiding why don't you stay inside well then tell me how fucking the documentary scaper just didn't do the same thing i can go to, I can't go make a living, but he can? Why can you? Blowing fucking hot air in my face every day. I thought it was an airborne virus.
Starting point is 02:04:49 Right. Right. I mean, what the fuck? What the fuck? We can't do shit in California. California is very selective about like what they open.
Starting point is 02:04:58 Like, my nigga, I was just in a strip club. Yeah. Do your best work in the strip club. Texas doesn't give a fuck, dude. Nah. And you know what? Texas looks at Florida and we're like, one day. No. One day. yeah do your best work in the strip club Texas doesn't give a fuck dude nah
Starting point is 02:05:05 and you know what Texas looks at Florida and we're like one day no one day don't be Florida one day we'll be as free as Florida no
Starting point is 02:05:12 Florida is the real America Florida don't be a fuck freedom of thought freedom of everything's down there they don't give a fuck they're like let's go exactly last time I was in Miami
Starting point is 02:05:21 they wasn't even tripping on us wearing masks they was just like Andrew Schultz is there right now. He said, if you wear a mask, they look at you like you're a pussy. He was texting me. He's like, bro, it's wild down here. But he brought on his Instagram.
Starting point is 02:05:34 I've never been more happy when a dude bumped into me at a nightclub and spilled his drink on my shoe. Because I was just happy. The people were just right there. He's like, I didn't even give a fuck. Living life. You can't do that shit right risk taking anybody who's listening to this in the world if you come to if you come to los angeles right now you're going to be depressed the energy is tell me because i stopped you i stopped you we were all getting covid tested before this podcast tell me what it's like
Starting point is 02:06:01 it's depressing bro the energy out there is fucked up and everybody and everybody keeps saying like oh you know there's so many cases i remember in december there's so many cases this isn't that but you know it's but we don't have a cold snap in california right but we have a hundred thousand people on the streets you're saying it's an airborne virus you don't get something to do with it you don't think that that the undocumented workers or the poor people are dying in south la has something to do with like what are the only people working because right now what's happening right now this is your power dynamic rich people are staying home and telling you to stay home because they're making the money
Starting point is 02:06:29 and gavin newsom said this he said oh i don't know what you guys mean by by business is closing all these there's a lot of new billionaires who wouldn't say that i saw that that was fucking arrogant and it i wasn't ever gonna vote but i'm like yo bro you lost like i wasn't even a fan but like now you like you lost the dude was like hey, I can defend some of the things you're saying because you have some good ideas. But at that point, you're telling me, well, the rich people are happy, so then we're happy. He's under pressure, man. The middle class is fucked up because they can't work or they're working at home and they can't take their kids out to go do shit and be normal. And the kids ain't in school.
Starting point is 02:06:59 Exactly. And kids ain't, bro. It's not necessary. Kids ain't in school and they're robbing people. My daughter in private school. See, that helps. ain't bro it's not necessary kids ain't in school my daughter in private school and like let me tell you this like but with that bullshit like they want your money yeah so they're not gonna like they're not gonna say hey just stop the fucking school you know they like all right but yet but
Starting point is 02:07:16 hold on yet they are they are but but but some but not not school my daughters go so they're making them go well you gotta go sometime you found a good one they'll be like all right you're gonna be the zoom school teacher at home you know what i'm saying so it's like when they get under pressure by the state or the county maybe they'll shut down but for the most part my daughter been going to school like you know what's interesting out here if your school's religious you get exemptions there you go like if you decide my kid's a Catholic. Your kid can go to a school, like in school,
Starting point is 02:07:49 because they believe in God. Because they believe in God. I know. I'm not. Listen, I'm not bullshit. You're right. You're fine. I'm saying about like. No, I'm telling you the truth
Starting point is 02:07:56 from my own experience with children. This is real. That's pretty nice. Yeah. It's bizarre, man. It's working in their favor. Because usually organized religion is fucked up. And now I'm like, damn, you get to go to school? I'm with them. I'm like, who are they to tell usually organized religion is fucked up but now I'm like
Starting point is 02:08:05 damn you get to go to school I'm with them who are they to tell you it is fucked up because I'm like damn if I couldn't afford a private school would my daughter be
Starting point is 02:08:11 actually in real school like I wouldn't be in real school no she'd be zoomed up and she'd be listen to me she'd be restless trust in the government
Starting point is 02:08:18 is way crazier than any other religion trust in a bunch of people that can't fucking believe they're really the mayor. Or can't believe they're really the governor. Right. You're telling me, first of all, you're telling me they're not medicated. All those fucks are medicated.
Starting point is 02:08:34 They're all on something. They're all on SSRIs or Ambien or some sort of anti-anxiety Xanax type deal. Definitely. All of them! All of them. Maybe a few of them are just on athletic greens. But there's a lot of people out there that are on some dark shit. But that's, yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:51 They're out there making decisions for all of us. Right. I mean, when you say the Catholic Church, that shit just triggers me. Because I'm always, I'm always, because it's, those motherfuckers, and that's, I go back to QAnon again, and this is my joke I made about QAnon again. I'm like, yo, QAnon, like, you guys are culture appropriating black people's shit.
Starting point is 02:09:07 We're afraid of the government. We always have. We have facts to back it up. I haven't seen one thing from anybody in QAnon just like, well, this is happening. The Marjorie Greens
Starting point is 02:09:14 or the Lauren Babbitts. I'm just like, come on, man. What are you guys talking about? Because by the way, the Catholic church has physical proof that they're fucking people.
Starting point is 02:09:23 It's separated through all sorts of lines. Yeah. Tribal lines. We're tribal. Right, right, right. Yeah, we always talk about that shit. We are tribal.
Starting point is 02:09:28 We do talk about it a lot because that's really what it is. If we abandoned all that, like if we all did MDMA. Word. You ever do that? I did some all of you. I only did it once. I was holding hands with a dude. We were holding hands.
Starting point is 02:09:40 And I was like, this feels so good. We're both looking at each other. That's humanity though right there. Yeah, me and some Mexican good. We're both looking at each other. That's humanity, though, right there. Yeah, me and some Mexican dude. We're sitting on the couch. We're holding hands with each other. And he's like, it feels good, right? And I was like, dude, it's amazing.
Starting point is 02:09:53 It's like the best feeling I've ever had in my life. It wasn't sexual at all. It was me and some dude holding hands. Yeah. We were cool. That's funny. It was good, right? I like that.
Starting point is 02:10:01 That's real shit right there. We abandoned because we were both on fucking two tabs we were on two tabs of MDMA and we were both like listen it's all bullshit it's all bullshit he wasn't trying to fuck me I wasn't trying to fuck him
Starting point is 02:10:16 I was holding hands with this dude and we were cool with each other if we could all just do Molly if we could all just do Molly, if we could all just do Molly, we'd be fine. Yes. I really believe that. You like Oregon
Starting point is 02:10:28 because Oregon, you can do drugs. Now you can. You can do everything, bro. So I'm going to sell crack right now. Why don't you move to Oregon? Why are you talking
Starting point is 02:10:34 about going to Miami? It's all decriminalized. I don't know if decriminalized means they can't take it from you, but they definitely can't arrest you. It's like a misdemeanor
Starting point is 02:10:43 there so they can find you probably. But I think they can take it. Like if they find you with some molly and some coke, like pure coke. They can take it. They'll be like, you can't handle this. We just found out you can only get pure coke in 1990.
Starting point is 02:10:57 You've been to Vancouver? You know Vancouver got the drug zone where they got all the shit. It's like Amsterdam on the wire. You know what I'm saying? It's like three or four blocks. That's the first place I ever did Absinthe. Oh, bro. I'd never fuck with that again.
Starting point is 02:11:10 You did it? I did Absinthe. In Amsterdam, though? No, no, no, no. I did it in Vancouver. I said it's like a cousin to drunk. It's like drunk's cousin. You think you're a drunk's house.
Starting point is 02:11:23 You're like, oh oh you guys got velvet paintings Yeah absinthe ain't no joke Absinthe was It's illegal in America No no I mean they have It was before I mean not the shit that they sell in Amsterdam
Starting point is 02:11:33 Not that absinthe Yeah I drunk some absinthe I never do that shit again bro That shit hit me like That was the weirdest feeling I enjoyed it immensely I believed in Harry Potter Damn That was some good absinthe i did it i started thinking about magic absent to me you're in texas now you
Starting point is 02:11:51 doing you doing uh lean now you're on uh no you're on dirty sprite no you don't like you don't like opiates no i do kettlebells i used to do i used to lean i used to drink that shit. 2007, the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau effectively lifted the longstanding absinthe ban. See, I told you. 2007. That's when I, because that's how I found out about it. I had it way before then. I think I had it in like 2002 in Vancouver. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:12:18 I had it in 2010. I was doing yuck yucks. Oh, shit. You ever do that? Yeah, I've done that one, but I've done yuck yucks. That's how I found out about Absinthe. The day it got unbanned, my homeboy took me to go drink some of that bullshit.
Starting point is 02:12:31 And I was like, my nigga, I will never do this shit with you. They had to burn it. It looked like we was doing crack. Right, because you had to burn the sugar cube. I have to correct myself. I think I'm 2005. Oh, so you did it illegally. No, it was legal in vancouver
Starting point is 02:12:45 2000 they were starting to sell it as something else it's called absinthe refined that's like fucking the new coke right yeah yeah yeah you ruined up tried and proven proven formula they brought it back they brought original coke back motherfuckers cocaine insane right now it's like 50 000 a kilo it's different you know what's like super underrated you know it's super super underrated what'd you get a cigarette before a comedy show really yeah man who loves that silverman listen you know who loves that chapelle word when dave and i was doing these gigs, he's always smoking, and I wouldn't even have thought to do it. Until I met Joey Diaz and until I started smoking pot and met Eddie Bravo, I was like Mr. Straight Edge.
Starting point is 02:13:33 Really? Yeah, you got to eat meat and you got to run steps and don't be a pussy. East Coast Gold's Gym guy. I was a fighter when I was young. I was kickboxed and I fought a lot of martial arts tournaments. I was scared of anything that's gonna like set you back yeah right and then i met some dudes that were like martial artists like eddie bravo in particular yeah who's one of my best friends ever yeah who's a martial artist but also a pothead i'm like explain explain what the fuck
Starting point is 02:13:58 you're doing he's like it makes me creative like there's no way i go okay let's do it and we did we got high and i was like oh my god i get it in well i got like that i mean like when i was a kid yeah 100 when i got when i was a kid i probably smoked pot from the time i was like young till i was like 30 no not even 21 maybe five times yeah maybe yeah and then i like i took a long time off i thought it was for losers word yeah yeah most people do i did two at first yeah we all i i think when you're a we're doing athletics as like as a kid yeah never want to fuck with like even like my dare i was like i get that shit i mean i wasn't like i'm gonna be in that was like i get that i'm
Starting point is 02:14:42 not gonna do that because i wanted to fuck with my with my system because I want to be in sports. Then when you get out, you're like, well, let me see what this shit's all about. Nah, when I got to college and started playing football, I knew the motherfuckers. I was like, yeah, everybody doing drugs. Yeah, everybody. I was like, oh, shit. I overindulged. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:14:56 You know, it's a jujitsu thing. A big thing with jujitsu. A lot of the best guys, they get high. Really? They get high. I used to get high every time it rolled every time me and eddie bravo we would smoke we would get real high like the point where i was embarrassed a couple of times because i was trying to explain a position
Starting point is 02:15:15 i was like there's a position where there's like there's a new counter and i was trying to explain a counter to an omoplata i was trying to explain this one this one move and i was so high i didn't remember where to put my feet i didn't know where to go i was so high and i was trying to explain this one this one move and i was so high i didn't remember where to put my feet i didn't know where to go i was so high and i was talking to another guy it was like like a legit jujitsu guy and he was like this fucking airhead and i was like i was like i don't think i can remember let me start from the beginning i had to take it like two steps before where i was explaining it to figure out how I got to where I was because I was so high.
Starting point is 02:15:47 But the best guys like BJ Penn, Eddie Bravo. BJ Pitt, really? Yeah. BJ was one of the biggest potheads. He convinced a lot of people because he was so good early on. Bro, that guy won the Mundial, the world championships with jiu-jitsu, three years in the training. It's just lit up all the time. I love it.
Starting point is 02:16:10 Always high. Always high. Hicks and Gracie like to smoke weed. Yeah. All those guys like to smoke weed. I used to live with the MMA cat who's a Wim Hof instructor now. Wim Hof. Wim Hof.
Starting point is 02:16:21 Wim Hof. My bad. I'm high. Wim Hof. Did he ever whoop your ass? Yeah. Hey, we used to like grab my shit yeah because he was trying to teach me but uh he was a major pothead he was um he would
Starting point is 02:16:31 always tell me that same thing it's like it's just good for recovery for me because i want to feel it it's that too but it's also like a abandonment of all your preconceived notions of what life is when you're doing jujitsu you're doing jujitsu and you're doing jujitsu and you're like, well, I'm a member of a fucking neighborhood organization. And, uh, you know, I owe $15,000 on my credit card and, I'm worried I'm going to get fired at my job.
Starting point is 02:16:54 And when you smoke pot and, and a dude's trying to strangle you, all that goes away. Yeah. And everybody realized it. Everybody realized that it makes it like you exist in a different dimension than the normal world. You exist in this really high dimension where you're doing this intimate sort of intricate strangle game. Where you're trying to break joints, choke each other.
Starting point is 02:17:17 You do it to each other over and over and over and over. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And you're doing it while you're high. Some custom auto shit. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And you're doing it while you're high. Some custom auto shit. It doesn't, it's not like being drunk. See, if you're drunk,
Starting point is 02:17:29 it slows you down. But the high thing is it eliminates all the other variables. See, it's the same thing. I believe that. Same thing as rapping. Really?
Starting point is 02:17:38 Yes, yes. You get high. Same thing. And you just, do-do-do-do-do-do. Oh, yes. You know what I'm saying? You go straight to the place you need to go to. You know what I'm saying? You go straight to the place
Starting point is 02:17:45 you need to go to, you know what I'm saying? 100%. Like, you know, so I can relate. But everybody who's great at something says that. Yeah, it's tunnel vision, man.
Starting point is 02:17:54 Yes. It's tunnel vision, dog. It's like, like you said, I am the task. Yes. So, you know, I might fall off in other areas.
Starting point is 02:18:01 I might not be a good boyfriend, husband, or some shit like that, but I'm a fucking great rapper, man. Yeah. And you know what I'm saying? And to be that, I know that I gotta stay on the path to doing that.
Starting point is 02:18:15 And it's gonna be shit that I might not, might lack in, because I'm so laser-focused on being great at that. That shit was so specific. The thing is, too, the thing is, too, if you can do that, you can do anything. He just said, he's like, you know, I might not be a good boyfriend or a husband. The thing is too, the thing is too, if you can do that, you can do anything.
Starting point is 02:18:27 He just said, he's like, you know, I might not be a good boyfriend or a husband. He could have said, I'm not good with money, I'm not good with this. He was very pointed about that.
Starting point is 02:18:34 He knows what he's saying. I know what I'm not good at. I don't believe in monogamy. Word. So, I don't really rock with that shit. So, you know,
Starting point is 02:18:44 I believe in, you know i believe in you know i should have my way with whatever comes my way that's how i feel you know monogamy don't really fit you know my kind of lifestyle my kind of thing you know so like when i bring up the idea of like open relationships to women and kind of like scare them away so i don't get into isn't it interesting that some some people only want people to live the way they lived right and this is why people had a problem with gay marriages right that was a big deal oh yeah until like the 2013 man there's a lot of like prominent democrats that were running for president running for president 2013 like nope man and a woman that's
Starting point is 02:19:23 it man and a woman that's's it. Man and a woman. That's crazy. And I'm going to tell you, you're like, that's actually crazy. And I'm going to tell you this. And I'm, you know what I mean? I'm into the religion and everything. I'm into Islam and all of that. But like, you know, like I said, there's certain things, even with religion, that I don't agree with.
Starting point is 02:19:37 Like, I don't agree with that, like, anti-gay shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you want to, I don't give a fuck who you fuck at night. What the fuck? Who's the fuck that got nothing to do with us? Yeah, it don't got nothing to do with me, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you want to, I don't give a fuck who you fuck at night. What the fuck? Who's the fuck that got nothing to do with us? Yeah, it don't got nothing to do with me, man. You know what I'm saying? So I just, you know, I feel like, you know, you should be free to do whatever the fuck you want to do.
Starting point is 02:19:51 You know what I think it is? I think it's a weird test. It's like, as we were talking about, like, what we used to be, what a human used to be 100 years ago, 200 years ago, 1, thousand years ago, and what we are now, that keeps going. Right. And we're at this weird point where we're like, what do we give a fuck?
Starting point is 02:20:12 What do you care? Yeah. If dudes want to marry dudes, like if you have a problem with that, you're the problem. Right. It's not dudes who want to marry dudes. Right.
Starting point is 02:20:21 If a dude is like, hey, listen, bitch, you're going to marry me. He's like, I really like chicks. Like, shut the fuck up. Okay. Then we might want to marry dudes. If a dude is like, hey, listen, bitch, you're going to marry me. He's like, I really like chicks. Like, shut the fuck up. Okay, then we might want to protect that dude who's going to get married by a dude who wants to marry him. But that's not what we're talking about.
Starting point is 02:20:36 Until it's that, if it's a guy who wants to marry a guy, then we should be encouraging as much as we are a man who wants to marry a man or a woman who wants to marry a woman. All civil rights, yeah. Do you want to date other colors? Yes. Do whatever the fuck you want. It's all bullshit. Jack Johnson had a bad white bitch.
Starting point is 02:20:53 He had a lot of them. He had multiple. That was his thing. Yeah. He did that. He drove around with them in a convertible. He did. Yeah, because he wanted them to see.
Starting point is 02:21:01 He's like, I'm conquering white supremacy. Yeah, exactly. Well, he was a man. You know, they think that even when he lost, they think he might have took a dive. They don't know. There's a lot of speculation. Yeah. Who did he lose to?
Starting point is 02:21:15 It was like he was, it was late in his life. Yeah, it was like a tomato can kind of fighter? Well, they think that they might have like set up a situation where, you know, like, listen, man. Take some money, get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Let's end this. It was real speculation. April 5th, 1915, Johnson lost his title to Jess Willard, a working cowboy from Kansas,
Starting point is 02:21:37 who started boxing when he was 27 years old. Nick, I didn't know cowboy was a real job. Here it is. It's a real job right now. How dare you? Tina job. Here it is. It's a real job right now. How dare you? Tina was. You in Texas. If you want to have a fucking viable horse to ride, sir, you respect the cowboys.
Starting point is 02:21:52 Many people thought Johnson purposely threw the fight because Willard was white in an effort to have his man act charges dropped. Oh, shit. So he did that. So he'd be'd be like man let me fuck these white bitches i lost to this white nigga right here so yeah damn jack took a dive he took a dive if we're deep into 2021 damn and this is like how many years ago a hundred and yeah how many three hundred six how many years like it's not if he t because it's 2021 right now. Imagine. Imagine that fucking debate still raging on. Right.
Starting point is 02:22:31 That's crazy. The man act. What is the man act? No, well, Trump pardoned him. He pardoned him. What? Trump pardoned Jack Johnson. No.
Starting point is 02:22:41 Really? Trump pardoned Jack Johnson, everybody. Please pull that up. How he pardoned Jack Johnson, everybody. Please pull that up. How he pardoned Jack Johnson? Like, Jack Johnson still does. But meanwhile, Joe Exotic rots in a fucking cage. Right. Let's let him out. Let's use him as a battery to make some money.
Starting point is 02:22:57 Right. Okay? That's beautiful. There's money to be made. Look at that. Trump pardons. Look how much they don't even like him. Look at the black people. Look at Stallone's there. Hey, yo. Hey, yo, man. Hey, yo, man. Look at that. Trump pardons. Look how much they don't even like him. Look at the black people.
Starting point is 02:23:05 Look at Stallone's there. Hey, yo. Hey, yo, man. Hey, yo, man. Look at Stallone. Deontay. That's Deontay in there. What the fuck?
Starting point is 02:23:11 That's hilarious. Oh, Deontay, why was you there for that, man? Go to that guy's face, though, with the cabbie hat on. No, no, the other one. The other one. Yeah, I've never seen that picture.
Starting point is 02:23:21 He don't look like he's happy. That's Lennox Lewis, man. That's Lennox Lewis. That's Lennox Lewis. Oh Lennox Lewis That's Lennox Lewis Oh my god I guarantee Mike Tyson Wouldn't have did that Mike Tyson wouldn't have did that
Starting point is 02:23:30 Mike Tyson would not have did that Lennox Lewis is a fascinating guy He must be Has he been on the podcast? Yeah yeah yeah You know he plays chess At a really high level Oh yeah
Starting point is 02:23:39 Damn I mean he's brilliant He's really brilliant He's British man He's British man Get out of here man All them niggas Could play really brilliant. He's British, man. He's British, man. Get out of here, man. All them niggas could play chess over there.
Starting point is 02:23:47 He's the crime raps. He's also super nice, but also talks shit. Like, it's kind of cool. Like, he saw a pool table. He's a smart demon, yeah. He's like, come on, man. You want to play some? Like, all of a sudden, like, oh, shit, we're having fun. I mean, I respect him.
Starting point is 02:24:00 He beat Mike Tyson. Dude, he didn't just beat Mike Tyson. When Lennox Lewis was in his prime, how about when he revenged against uh hasim rockmont right that rockman had knocked him out yeah and they caught and he thought they stopped the fight early they caught him and stopped him yeah imagine comes back and kos him with one punch oh yeah dude yeah he's he might be one of the most underrated yeah he fucked rockman most underrated ever yeah one of the most underrated heavyweights ever. Yeah, he fucked Rock Mott. One of the most underrated ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the most underrated ever. He is. That's because he British. It's that.
Starting point is 02:24:27 It's that. But that might be it, right? Because Anthony Joshua, they don't give him the credit. That's why, bro. Like, we don't respect British boxers like that over here like that.
Starting point is 02:24:36 Meanwhile, we like Tyson Fury. We're pretty happy. We love him. We love him. We love Tyson Fury. We love him. But he's a gypsy. He's in a caravan
Starting point is 02:24:42 like Brad Pitt, that fucking movie Snatch. Right? I love Tyson Fury. Right? But. But he's a gypsy. He's in a caravan like Brad Pitt, that fucking movie Snatch. I love Tyson Fury. But also Deontay Wilder. Deontay Wilder became Deontay Wilder because of what he did to Tyson Fury in the first fight. Everybody knew what he was, but everybody was like, what happens
Starting point is 02:24:57 when he fights the best of the best? When he dropped Tyson Fury in that 12th round, when he hit him with a right hand and a left hook as he's going down. And then he went like this. Everyone's like, oh! I screamed. Like my wife was worried something was wrong.
Starting point is 02:25:14 I was sitting on the edge of the bed. I was watching my bedroom in California. And he knocked him down. I went, oh! Yes, badass. I couldn't stop screaming. But then that motherfucker got up He did
Starting point is 02:25:26 He got up Like Terminator bro Like Terminator And Deontay was dancing and all that shit He was doing all this shit He thought it was over with but it wasn't And then he got outboxed If Deontay could pretend
Starting point is 02:25:42 That he couldn't knock people out imagine i mean dude his power is preposterous right if he's the greatest in history if he just learned how to box like a dude who couldn't break an egg right just learn how to box like one of those he's a soup version of kimbo slice yeah dude no no no no he's like a a superhuman tommy hearns yeah that's what he's like because he's so big he's so powerful bro he knocked everybody out he's just that guy broke his jaw man dude if he catches you clean dionte will you up i just watched hearns haggler the other day oh my god that fight that's probably one of the best boxing matches i've ever seen in my fucking life.
Starting point is 02:26:25 Gotti Ward versus Hagler. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't even like Gotti Ward. Gotti Ward is great, but Hearns Hagler is in another dimension. That's another dimension, though. Because here's the thing. Neither Gotti nor Ward at the time
Starting point is 02:26:35 were thought about as world champions. Right. When Marvin Hagler fought Tommy Hearns, that was 100% the best versus the best. Right. That was, yeah. I was like, oh, this is chalk versus chalk. Bro, Tommy Hearns had starched Roberto Duran with one punch.
Starting point is 02:26:49 Right. The one punch. Have you ever seen that? Oh, yeah. No mas. Jesus. No, no, no, no, no. That's not no mas?
Starting point is 02:26:55 That was Sugar Ray Leonard. Oh, shit. I'm sorry. I'm disrespecting. Tommy Hearns put Roberto Duran to sleep. Was that after the no mas? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 02:27:04 So he boxed again after that. And that was before Tommy Hearns fought Hagler. So this was the build-up. The build-up was Tommy Hearns had knocked he had knocked Roberto Duran
Starting point is 02:27:17 into another dimension. Marvin Hagler went to a decision with Roberto Duran. What year was that? It was like we're talking about like year was that? It was like, we're talking about like, I gotta think it was like, sometime in the 80s.
Starting point is 02:27:29 Yeah, because I don't remember the height. It's definitely, 84. Hearns Duran's 84. So in 1984, watch this, watch this.
Starting point is 02:27:37 Tommy Hearns knocks Roberto Duran senseless. And Roberto Duran was one of the greats. One of the greats. Look at this. Dude! Now I know the highlight. Nobody, And Roberto Duran was one of the greats. One of the greats. Look at this. Dude.
Starting point is 02:27:46 Now I know the highlight. Nobody. Nobody did that to Duran. Nobody. He knocked him senseless. Senseless. He felt that for days, bro. He probably pissed blood and everything.
Starting point is 02:27:58 Dude, he got flatlined. So for Tommy Hearns to fight Marvin Hagler was insanity. It was insanity. Yeah. And also the way Marvin Hagler decided to fight him. Marvin Hagler was a beast, too. Marvin Hagler decided to turn it to just chaos. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:16 From the beginning. The first round. Right away. Right away. Right away. And fight. No guts, no glory. Yeah, all gas.
Starting point is 02:28:23 Yeah. Bro, this first round, this is the best first round of boxing I've ever seen in my life. Maybe ever. Ever. Maybe ever. It's just a war. It's a war. Bro, they both had the, I mean.
Starting point is 02:28:33 Look at their, first of all, they both were at the tippy top of their game. They were so good. And it's that same referee. What's his name? How old were they, by the way? That's Richard Steele. Richard Steele, yeah. Yeah, Richard Steele.
Starting point is 02:28:43 Old school Richard Steele. And look, they just get right after it. Look at this. Marvin Hagler just gives you no air. He's just constantly on them. Bro, this is the best first round of boxing I've ever seen, bro. Damn. They're just trying to find range and throw haymakers.
Starting point is 02:28:58 Bro, they are hitting each other so hard. Marvin just cracks him with a big right hook. Oh, my God. And Tommy Hearns is trying to nuke him. I'm going to watch this tonight for real. And Tommy Hearns is trying to nuke him. And Tommy Hearns apparently broke his hand in this first round. Damn, for real? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he took him 12 still?
Starting point is 02:29:12 No, no, no, no. He didn't. I don't think it lasted very many rounds. I don't remember. I think it was three. Like, when did... They both won the end. This is the first. It lasted two or three rounds, if I remember correctly. Who won this shit?
Starting point is 02:29:26 Marvin Hagler. By KO. He's wilted him. He wilted him. He just overwhelmed him with his pressure. Fuck. Overwhelmed him. I mean, it's...
Starting point is 02:29:36 Bro, they was going at it. That is... Dude. They was going at it, bro. When I was a kid, Marvin Hagler was supposed to fight Mustafa Hamshu. And he was training on Cape Cod in the winter yeah it was running down the beach screaming war and they're filming him for this like local news channel he was the middleweight champion of the world I was a kid I was like sitting there
Starting point is 02:29:55 watching TV and Marvin Haggers got like a hoodie on and he's running down this frozen beach cool, War! Shadow boxing, throwing punches. This is third round? Yeah, okay. So I remembered it right. A human being can't fight like that for more than three rounds the way they was fighting. No, it was chaos.
Starting point is 02:30:17 They was fighting. I mean, that's crazy. Marvin Hagler was a specimen. And he had this crazy calisthenic workout. Like, nobody was in better shape than him. He never got tired. Like, he met some clever boxers, like Sugar Ray was clever. Right.
Starting point is 02:30:31 Duran was really clever. And I think he had a lot of respect for Duran when they fought, too. But Marvin Hagler was, like, one of the most impressive boxers of all time. He was, man. You know, hey, man, you know a fight that i really want to see that you know the logistics and political shit i want to see bud versus errol spence absolutely we all do man yeah do you think what they were talking to like the last day or two that that they were going to just abandon the idea of even pursuing it what do you think that is it's a pacquiao it feels like a
Starting point is 02:31:01 pacquiao floyd thing but is that like a negotiation thing? Like they're trying to pretend they're backing off? You think that's real? Because Bud's full, what is it? He's ESPN top rank. Yeah, he's top rank. And then Spence isn't, isn't he? Nah, they could make that shit happen. They need to make it happen.
Starting point is 02:31:17 Spence is golden, right? And he bounced back. He really bounced back after the accident. I didn't, you know what I mean? That's the fight. He flipped that car like 10 times, man. I didn't think that any came back and he fought well. So I definitely need to see that fight.
Starting point is 02:31:33 I like Teofimo Lopez. That's what I was going to say. I was just about to say that. I like Teofimo Lopez. Bro, the way he beat Lomachenko. I was just about to say. I was just about to say. I was just about to say.
Starting point is 02:31:40 I was just about to say. I was just about to say. I was just about to say. I was just about to say. I was just about to say. I was just about to say. I was just about to say. I was just about to say.
Starting point is 02:31:41 That's what I said. I thought nobody would beat Lomachenko. When I'm looking at that, I was like, what the fuck? You know what? There's an equation. Firepower versus movement. You get to a certain level. It doesn't matter how much movement you have.
Starting point is 02:31:52 The other guy has superior firepower. As Lomachenko went up in weight, he reached this technical breaking point. The point of diminishing returns. His ability to move is above and beyond but if this dude hits you once you're like oh shit and then you get nervous and then you're tighter and it's harder to move and then also assuming lomachenko had some sort of an injury to his shoulder apparently going into that fight they're gonna rematch it i don't know man who knows i think lomachenko thought he won which is i thought was crazy he said he thought he won the first fight i'm like he's one of the he's one of the most interesting boxers of
Starting point is 02:32:29 all time but he definitely did win that fight lomachenko did not win that fight no lopez was in he was hurting him he was putting him in danger yeah i guess i never seen limonchenko i guess get to that point because we've always seen him just like dominate so it was interesting you're like whoa okay another guy wish i would have seen floyd fight yeah yes floyd loma chingo fuck all this reality shit yeah get in there show me yeah fight loma different weight class though you know yeah true tfmo is 135 right yeah he's dangerous man he's like super fucking dangerous. What's up with Triple G? They think that Loma Chank, Triple G, they want to have a rematch with Canelo, apparently. Right, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:33:12 Triple G looked at him. I say let him juice up. This is what I say. I say, listen, let's cut the shit. Let's let these guys do testosterone. Do we want to have good fights? Or do we want to help bean counters? Pocket protectors. Give that Pocket protectors Give that man steroids
Starting point is 02:33:26 Give that man steroids How old is Triple G? He's like 39, right? Yeah, he's going to need it Let him juice up Yeah, he's going to need it against Canelo Come on, let him juice up That was a good fight Fuck
Starting point is 02:33:37 Two, right? They fought twice The first one, a lot of people thought Triple G won But the second one, canelo was brilliant man dude he's he's never looked better actually you ever see that danny jacobs fight where danny jacobs is throwing like haymakers at him he's like moving oh it's gorgeous yeah oh my god anybody who says that that's not an art you're out of your mind to people right to people who know you watch that you're like holy shit that's that's like hitting a hundred you know my life fast like curveball you know what i mean or knuckleball shit 100 canelo improved like more
Starting point is 02:34:09 than like any fighter and you know what i mean that i've seen he's legitimately yeah because i believe he fought floyd too early yeah i was just about to say that he caught floyd called when he was young yeah you know too early but not only that he weakened him floyd make him go down to 152 i believe exactly didn't he make him go down to 152, I believe. Exactly. Didn't he make him go down to that? That's good boxing shit, though. That's smart boxing shit. That's Floyd. Yeah, that's smart shit.
Starting point is 02:34:29 Smart. He knew better. He's a big, dangerous young man. Oh, yeah. Get him to dehydrate himself a little bit more. Because he went up and weight. He up there. He like, what is he, 156?
Starting point is 02:34:38 He went up to 175 and knocked out Kovalev. Oh, right. 175. Yeah, I thought that was actually nuts. I was like, really? You're not tired? Not. Dude, he's on another level. Yeah. actually nuts. I was like, really? You're not tired? Not. Dude, he's on another level.
Starting point is 02:34:47 Yeah. You're 30 pounds away. Canelo's on another level. Yeah, I love it. That Danny Jacobs fight was crazy. Because Danny Jacobs is super dangerous. And he's throwing these haymakers. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:58 I mean, excuse me, Canelo. He learned from Floyd. Right. He learned from that fight. Like, if you can't hit a guy, like, oh, that's really important. You fight Floyd and you're like, hey, where are you going? Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:35:16 So these dudes like Canelo, look how good he was in the Jacobs fight with his head movement. I mean, that's not normal. That's not normal head movement. He's got a fight this weekend. That's right. I was just about to say normal. That's not normal head movement. That's right. I was just about to say that. It's a fight here in Texas, right? Miami.
Starting point is 02:35:33 How do you pronounce a dude's name he's fighting? Yildirim. That dude looks savage. He is a big guy. That's a big dude, man. That's a big dude. That's a big dude. Danilo ain't little. What's a dude with hard fuck that's a big dude what's his yellow ain't little no but what's a dude with less hard to pronounce the last name dude go up to the top mr. Rob to
Starting point is 02:35:54 the top of the say yeah there it is how do you say that name Avni you scroll down there uh so we can see that yeah avni yield better call saul yield it's yield dear rim yield room dear rim right avni our apologies avni you he might it might be your dream or something like that yeah it might be right where's he from turk he's a turk yep can we all agree on what like letters? What kind of noises you make? You can't have, you know, it's confusing. We can't agree? I'm with it on this one, yeah. It looks like a collection of numbers or letters. That was a big one when Hoyce Gracie was in the UFC.
Starting point is 02:36:38 Because Hoyce Gracie had his letters, it starts with an R. It's Royce Gracie in English. But because he's Brazilian, it's Portuguese. They pronounce the R and H, so it's Hoyce Gracie. Oh, Hoyce. Hoyce. It's a cool name, actually. It's a dope name, especially if you're a dude who's like 175 pounds
Starting point is 02:37:03 and fucks up the world. Shit, if your last name is Gracie. Shit. I mean, man, I've always wanted to be 175, like 185. Shit. Imagine the expectations growing up in the Gracie family. That's what I'm saying. Imagine.
Starting point is 02:37:16 I mean, what a name. Yeah. When it comes to all-time great, there's no greater family name ever in the history. I wouldn't fight you. It's martial arts. I wouldn't fight you. Have you got the Gracie name? They're got the gracie what's your name one of them gracie niggas oh hell no gracie boys like a human jaguar there's so there's so many elite gracies from hickson to hoist to hoyler to hodger like you can go down the line. Henzo. Henzo Gracie today has the most revered lineage of all.
Starting point is 02:37:51 He's produced John Donaher, who produced Gordon Ryan and Nicky Ryan. There's a whole series. Gary Tonin. There's murderers that come out of that lineage. It's all out of that Gracie lineage. That family's insane. That family changed martial arts yeah forever always i know about it yeah is that oh oh great yeah that's the that's the one name that registers on grace gracey school you went to the grace school cool they changed the world they changed the world they changed the whole world when they start well they had some of their first matches in the early 1900s.
Starting point is 02:38:26 Damn. I think it was in the 19- Yeah, no bullshit. Slave days. Their dad- Me, you're the end of Freddie. Gracie boy. The story of the Gracie family is amazing.
Starting point is 02:38:43 Because there was Elio Elio was like uh he he and Carlos Gracie were the ones who were first experimenting with jiu-jitsu but Elio was a small guy and the benefit he was like 140 pounds 147 pounds yeah but the benefits of him being really small is he couldn't hurt anybody with just his muscle. So he developed the perfect technique. So they learned from these guys that came over from Japan. He even had this match with this dude, Kimura, who fucked up his shoulder. And that guy, that became the Kimura. It's a known submission hold now.
Starting point is 02:39:19 Because this man did it. It's a double wrist lock. A double wrist lock is like the catch wrestling term above it. But this dude did this to, he did it to Elio Gracie in like the early 1900s and fucked up his shoulder. Yeah. And then Elio came back and he fought a bunch of other challenge matches. Then he had his,
Starting point is 02:39:38 I think it was his cousin Carlson. His cousin Carlson was like bigger and more robust, like kind of like a more durable, scarier version of him. And he did a bunch of challenge matches too. And then by the time the UFC came around, which was like 1993, in Brazil they had been doing this for decades, man. Decades. Decades of these no rules fights.
Starting point is 02:39:59 Decades of capoeira guys fighting karate guys, fighting wrestlers. They were doing all these they called it valetudo they fought they fought these means uh i think it means anything goes anything goes or no rules and they fought in these like weird little setups they did like cages sometimes in ropes and they had a ton of fights a ton of fights all through brazil so brazil brazil was just buck wild yeah it's martial arts sounds like muay thai shit it was different man it was it was there was a lot of different things going on there was a reductionist concern i feel like yeah but i was like there was there was jujitsu going but there was also like these other forms of wrestling and all that like
Starting point is 02:40:39 there's a the thing called luta livre was like competitor to jujitsu in brazil yeah and there was all these different styles they were trying to figure out who was the man and it was all happening before the ufc even came around that's what's wild south america yes you don't even think about it brazil yeah they just some there was an influence of these uh there was a guy named count maeda who came down there and taught them judo. And he taught them judo. And they just started practicing with each other. That was it. And next thing you know, they developed Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 02:41:11 They kept learning from each other. And these guys just figured out a better way to strangle each other. It's like they're Dr. James Naismith with basketball. They're like, here, do this. Go make some money. But the UFC is here because of that family. Word. One family. Yeah. Imagine. family. Word. One family.
Starting point is 02:41:25 Yeah. Imagine. That's crazy. One family changed martial arts so much that the world is, like, 1993 is when the first UFC was. Between 1993 and, like, the beginning of time, martial arts has evolved more from 1993 to 2021 than like any time ever in human history there's no doubt about it this is the these are the greatest hand-to-hand fighters and it's predominantly because of that guy holding that baby yeah that guy figured out a way to use leverage and technique and to beat guys of superior size and strength
Starting point is 02:42:07 and weight and he and he had like a hundred kids he had i'm exaggerating how many children did he had he had a lot and uh a lot of these children became champions i mean he was he was just... And this is what's crazy about him. It's like the Marlies and reggae. But here's one of the more interesting things about Elio Gracie. He would give his children presents if they lost. Really? He didn't give them any pressure. Wow.
Starting point is 02:42:39 And they still nailed it. They became the best. He didn't want them to worry about that. He didn't want them to worry about that. He didn't want them to get concerned. He was so wise that he gave them presents if they lost. Imagine that. Yeah, that's like giving your kid like, hey, you participated. Here's a trophy kind of a thing.
Starting point is 02:42:56 Yeah, but if you want to look at a study of what works and what doesn't, that guy should be the real professor. Legitimately, yeah. I'm like, wow, really? And they still got it. He's produced like a dozen straight up killers and my lineage that i come for the bachatos it's their cousins the gracies they all train together so my lineage is completely connected to there because john jock machado is uh in jujitsu i'd call him my master so they're all connected so this one family literally connected to martial
Starting point is 02:43:26 arts and changed it forever one family a couple of guys right in brazil it's crazy yeah it's the jackson family of martial arts but more so because jackson's look you can't discount james brown you can't word you know what i'm saying you're right you're right jackson's were amazing but there was a lot of jackson's yeah there was a lot of crazy powerful musical it was a bunch of different ones you can go to concerts with you can see 30 different styles of superpower right right one family in south america figured out the best way to strangle bitches just grab them and strangle them. They were all practicing all day long, trying to figure out what's the most efficient,
Starting point is 02:44:08 intelligent way of choking people to death. And they figured it all out above and beyond every other fucking martial arts grappling competitors in the world. And then they expanded through the globe, where if you don't know their style, you're fucked. There's not a single grappling organization on earth where if you don't know their style you're fucked there's not a single grappling organization on earth where if you don't understand the style that was created by the people that originally founded jujitsu if you
Starting point is 02:44:31 don't understand that you're gonna get strangled 100 100 if you're just a pure wrestler they created the microchip basically they figured something out that's undeniable if you're a regular wrestler who has no exposure to jujitsu and you have a grappling match with a guy like gordon ryan who's a multiple time world champion he's gonna fucking strangle you a hundred percent of the time you have no chance there's no chance it's not like one in a thousand chance the only thing that's going to save you is if there's a time limit right if somehow or another you can like hold on for five chance. The only thing that's going to save you is if there's a time limit. Right. If somehow or another you can hold on for five minutes, and then when the time's up,
Starting point is 02:45:09 you're, yeah, one. But did you? But did you? But did you? If you don't understand what he's doing, he's going to get you. He's going to rip your legs apart. He's going to strangle you. He's going to find a way to hurt you really bad, and you're going to give up.
Starting point is 02:45:21 That's real. That's what's real. It's torture shit. That's real. Damn. That's what martial arts are. Sounds painful as fuck. That's a hell of a black history lesson. Black history month, yeah. My mama wouldn't pay for me to get no karate lessons.
Starting point is 02:45:37 It should be free. Everybody would be so much friendlier if people knew how to fight. They would let it go. Are you weird if you take karate when you're an older person? Or take a jujitsu or something like that and get in your 30s? Today, no. Maybe in the 80s, yeah.
Starting point is 02:45:53 I think you're weird in that you have balls to take that chance. If you're a 49-year-old dude who's a trucker who's never done shit, and you're like, I want to learn karate. Yeah. Yeah, you'd call that guy weird. Yeah, I'd be like, yeah, you're like, I want to learn karate. Yeah. Yeah, you'd call that guy weird. Yeah, I'd be like, yeah, you're kind of weird, man. What do you need this for?
Starting point is 02:46:11 Well, it's also like, you do you. Word. Good. Go for it, bro. You know what? Yeah. Why are we happy
Starting point is 02:46:18 if he decides he's a woman but we're not happy if he wants to take karate? That's true. You're right. Choices. Choices 100% across the board with no judgment. Fuck it, I to take karate. That's true. You're right. A thousand. Choices 100% across the board
Starting point is 02:46:25 with no judgment. Fuck it, I'm taking karate. I'm about to beat a black ninja out of this motherfucker. Fucking weirdo. It's weird, right? All right, fine. I want to get tits and be a woman.
Starting point is 02:46:35 You're right. But here's the thing. You can learn stupid shit when you're older and no one cares. Yeah. Right? You can take bowling lessons.
Starting point is 02:46:43 No one thinks it's weird. There was a 92-year-old woman who went to college. She went to college. And graduated in 96. Wow, really? She committed. And survived and lived until she was 96. So there you go.
Starting point is 02:46:55 Yeah, I mean, why not? Isn't that weird? We're so focused on numbers. Like how long you got left. How long you got left. What can you do? It's such a trap. I just do drugs.
Starting point is 02:47:08 I do all the drugs I wasn't going to do. I think I do some crack. Because I heard, I was talking to Fred and he was saying, it's just like, man, crack's supposed to be fire. It's supposed to be like, they say it's like. It must be good. You smoke, it's like a body orgasm. So, yeah. Everybody that smokes.
Starting point is 02:47:22 How was it? At 79 or 80 or, you know, whenever black guys die, 64. Oh, then you're going to try it? Yeah, I'm going to do some crack. You're going to try some crack? I thought you were going to say you already have. No. Oh, man, no.
Starting point is 02:47:31 My mama would kill me if she knew. So in your last years, you would try crack? Yeah, last years. Listen, we need to rebrand. No, don't do it. You think about this, though. See, it's going through your brain. We need to rebrand crack.
Starting point is 02:47:43 It's problematic. It does need to be rebranded. The word crack is rude. It's probably through your brain. We need to rebrand crack. It's problematic. It does need to be rebranded. The word crack is rude. It's probably created by Nazis. We need to step in. We should have just called it Freebase. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:55 We should have kept calling it Freebase. How about this? Let's just call it Free. Free. Free. Nah, because the dope fiends think they ain't got to pay for it if you call it free. Let's call it Free Bass. Free Bass is such a good name.
Starting point is 02:48:11 That's probably why they call it crack. It is a good name. You ain't getting this for free. Just give me that bass, man. There you go. Imagine if we get to a point where we could have Free Bass t-shirts. Free Bass? Like you have a Brody shirt on.
Starting point is 02:48:23 Oh, yeah. A Coca-Cola shirt. Free base. Yeah. He tried it. They say my man J.D. is on free base. He tried to do it, dog. And from the eighth ball, my breath started stinking.
Starting point is 02:48:40 He said, the boy J.D. was a friend of mine until I caught him in the car trying to steal my Alpine. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, the free base, you know. See? Oh, there we go. Jesus Christ, Jamie. They say my man JD is on free base. Isn't that weird?
Starting point is 02:48:53 You can have... I've got a Quaalude shirt from the 70s my dad gave me. Is that a company, though? Someone just made it. If you could sell weed at a store, you should be able to sell free base at a store, too. Imagine if, like, Johnson & Johnson... Medical free base. Like, I want to make free base at a store too. Imagine if like Johnson and Johnson. Medical free base. I want to make the first crack store
Starting point is 02:49:07 in America. Can you imagine? Legal. Legal crack store. Free base. If there's not a market for it, what are you worried? What are you worried about? You've been out there. What's it like to deal with crackheads? What's it like to deal with crackheads?
Starting point is 02:49:23 All the time. Crackheads are different. They're different than heroin addicts i'll say you or even coke heads yeah um it's different kind of you know what i'm saying like waves like heroin addicts will kill you if you don't give them their drugs really kill kill crackheads they'll just steal some from you or something like that you know what i'm saying you know so heroin's the worst i would say with with the addiction yeah because they they get sick and you know. So heroin's the worst? I would say with the addiction, yeah, because they get sick and, you know, and they like,
Starting point is 02:49:47 yo, they'll do whatever. They'll do whatever, shit. Crackheads will do whatever too. Crackheads just crazy and crackheads got wild strength and speed.
Starting point is 02:49:57 You know what I'm saying? All right, so we should put him in the NFL combine? I mean, you can. I mean, like,
Starting point is 02:50:01 shit, like, I know a crackhead that got hit by a car by like four times. He still out here. Four times? At least at least four times like that's understating it at least four times do you think that all the people that are addicted to whatever the fuck they're addicted to do you think that would be the exact same numbers if everything was legal
Starting point is 02:50:18 what would change like imagine i think the crime rate would go down i think it would go down too you know what i'm saying this is a stigma with it too you know and i think that's what scares right that's what i'm talking about yeah i don't you know what honestly i like it's like this like i was telling a girl the other day i was like you know what man i think i like bitches and pussy so much because you say don't do it don't do it you make it like it's taboo so i make me want to be like oh i want to see what that's about so if you make shit not taboo no more people might be like i don't do it don't do it you make it like it's taboo so i make me want to be like oh i want to see what that's about so if you make shit not taboo no more people might be like i don't even like that or i don't even want to fuck with that that's the weird part it's like they make they make homosexuality they made that taboo too and you wasn't doing that yeah but that's a big
Starting point is 02:50:57 that's a big goddamn commitment yeah oh yeah that's a big jump that's a that's a big jump. That's a big jump. To jump sexualities, nigga. That ain't like smoking crack. You can get off crack. You can't switch back. You can't dabble. Nah, you can't.
Starting point is 02:51:20 I mean, no disrespect, but if you gay, bro, if you decide, oh, tomorrow, man, I'm going to start sucking dick, I'll be like, oh, yeah, Brian gay as hell. See this? You can't be like, oh, I'm off. You can't come to me and be like, hey, I'm off that gay shit, bro. I don't got a bitch now. I've been clean and sober for 70 days now.
Starting point is 02:51:39 I'd be like, bro, you still my nigga, but I'm always categorizing you with that. You know what I'm saying? Well, I've always said that. I'm always categorize you with that you know what I'm saying well I've always said that I've been off dick now for 120 days all my chick and everything I've been off dick I have a breath spray
Starting point is 02:51:53 like when I have asthma right you got a dick spray yeah I'm trying to quit man it's just the scent of dick ah boy ah ah ah
Starting point is 02:52:01 nicotine patch right nicotine patch like nigga I caught you sneak, nigga. I'm not here to enable my brother. I had a bit about it for a while. I was like, there's a difference.
Starting point is 02:52:12 There's gay dudes, and then there's really gullible straight dudes who get talked into blowing crafty gay dudes. Damn. There's two different things going on. Those are pimps, though. That's some crazy shit. See, this is why there's some ridicule attached to it i don't think you're really straight if a nigga if a nigga gets us we know that some dudes join cults it's not we don't respect gay people we just like human beings are super nuanced like we're
Starting point is 02:52:37 super we're very happy yeah i think everyone in this table i'm happy that people are gay i'm happy because people are straight there's more business for me i want people to be happy no matter what you're doing in this life you find people like you there's plenty of you let's all get together and hug we're all we're all live we're all live we shouldn't be fighting over the stupid shit it's like the russians in america we got to speak each other's language come on man i didn't I didn't know you would have a problem. It's all we're friends. I don't care. Let's love each other. Come on.
Starting point is 02:53:08 Yes, come on. But, you know. That's what's up, right? That's like the most important lesson. If a motherfucker convinced a straight dude to suck a dick, then you wasn't straight. Bro, listen to me. Tiger King is the best documentary. It's on Netflix.
Starting point is 02:53:25 It happened. It just took a guy who's way better at playing this particular game of chess. But, yeah, you're right, bro. And he played it with a bunch of straight dudes. Not only did he play it with one, he's like, not good enough. I want a second one. He had two straight boyfriends. I mean, husbands.
Starting point is 02:53:41 Yeah. Straight boyfriends. Two straight boyfriends. And he made them marry him on video and kiss him, and he fucked them all, and he gave them meth or whatever he gave them. He let them live with tigers. He did do that. By all accounts, they had a great time.
Starting point is 02:53:55 Hold on. Dude afterwards was like, man, I wasn't even gay. Yeah, they both said that. They both said they weren't gay. That guy's a pimp. Let him out. Thank you. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:54:02 Let him teach lessons. That's what we need to do. He should be employed by some sort of PBS type deal. Did they really say that? I haven't seen the documentary. We need to know how he did this. We need to know how he did this.
Starting point is 02:54:17 He's just a smooth motherfucker. Yeah, he's a smooth motherfucker. I don't even look at him as gay. Free him. This is your campaign all year, I bet. You were actually going to get this man Joe Exotic free. He said Trump didn't pardon him because he's too gay. It was fucked up
Starting point is 02:54:34 because he had... Did Trump release any gay people? Did he pardon any gay people? That's a really good question. He should have. He definitely should have pardoned Joe Exotic. He had the stretch limo Dodge Ram out there waiting. They did. They did.
Starting point is 02:54:50 At the jail. They thought that he was going to do it. I hope Joe Biden. Joe Biden, you better pardon Joe Exotic. You know what fucked him up? That Capitol Hill riot. Yeah. If none of that shit went down, Joe exotic be right here right next to us right here
Starting point is 02:55:06 he would be right here right there or he was sitting in this fucking chair right here or he would have got pardoned right before it and been there with them at capitol hill that's gonna break spotify imagine if joe exotic comes on imagine the three of us and joe exotic oh i mean this is his marriage it's amazing i would've went to his wedding. Bro, I might marry him if I was too close to him. He's amazing. He's too smooth.
Starting point is 02:55:30 He's too smooth. He's too smooth. He'll get you. Nah, Joe. Get away from me, Joe. He's clever. He got these boys eating cake. He's like,
Starting point is 02:55:38 what the fuck did I just do? And that one with the mustache, that guy was gigantic. He has these hands that are like fucking catcher's mitts. You look at him, you're like, oh, my God. All the while, I'm trying to get two bitches to do this. And Joe made two straight dudes do this.
Starting point is 02:55:51 You know what's interesting? When two straight dudes, when a guy gets two straight dudes to do it, nobody feels like anybody's a victim. Nobody's worried. This ain't R. Kelly. This ain't R. Kelly. So this guy's getting a couple other guys to suck his dick. Who cares?
Starting point is 02:56:06 Who gets hurt? A guy? Come on. You should know that you don't want to suck his dick. R. Kelly's still in jail, too? I believe so. Damn, that's fucked up. Why?
Starting point is 02:56:16 Huh? Why? Why is it fucked up? That he's still in jail. R. Kelly. Why is it fucked up that R. Kelly's still in jail? Yeah. The nigga has some fucking jams.
Starting point is 02:56:24 I'm not saying he shouldn't be in jail. He should be there, but it's a waste of talent. Imagine if they said, imagine if they made a deal with him. Imagine if they made a deal with him. They said, listen, you can take months off of your sentence with each album you put out. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:56:42 Wow. And all the money goes to charity. Hey man, you need to be the new attorney general. Hey man, you can't. Oh my god. Wow. And all the money goes to charity. Hey man, you need to be the new Attorney General. Hey man, you can't. He's thinking of it. Have a fucking shiny tie. Be like, listen, Mr. Moses, let's make a deal.
Starting point is 02:56:55 If you're the opposing lawyer and you and I met and we decided, let's just smoke a joint and talk about this, man. Right now with all the shit that had happened with R. Kelly, it'd be very, very difficult to listen to a new R. Kelly album. And he didn't talk about it. Did you listen to the one that he did release?
Starting point is 02:57:15 The one song that he did release? No. Listen, man, it's pretty fucking good. All his songs. He's got a lot of good songs, man. I'm not bullshitting. He's a fucking piece of shit, but he's got great songs. He's got a lot of good songs, man. I'm not bullshitting. He's a fucking piece of shit, but he's got great songs. Some people got upset at me that I said, listen, I understand.
Starting point is 02:57:28 He's an extremely flawed human being. But this song is pretty fucking catchy. Who was that one that he released on SoundCloud? After he got dropped by his... I Believe I Can Fly remix? No, there was a song. He was talking about him. I Believe I Can Fly risk?
Starting point is 02:57:44 He was talking about his whole thing. Not Guilty? All of us. This nigga has a soul called Not Guilty. He does? R. Kelly? Does he? Yes. Probably, he might have 18 songs in a row called Not Guilty. It was on the Best of Both Worlds album. Right, remember Trapped in the Closet?
Starting point is 02:58:00 Right. Remember that? Trapped in the Closet, yes. He had a whole soap opera. Yeah, soap opera Trapped in the Cl, yes. He had a soap opera. Yeah. Yes, he did. Trapped in a closet. He did. R. Kelly is an innovator, man. Everybody else had R. Kelly. He's an R&B.
Starting point is 02:58:12 He's the king of R&B. Okay. A 19-minute song called I Admit. I Admit. That's it. Yeah. Dude, it's good. Yeah, I heard that.
Starting point is 02:58:20 19 minutes? Damn. It's good. It was like trapped in a closet altogether. Listen, I'm not saying I endorse what he's done. I do not. No fucking way. I'm not saying. It's good. It was like trapped in a closet altogether. Listen, I'm not saying I endorse what he's done. I do not. What I'm saying is the sounds that he's making,
Starting point is 02:58:32 the things that he's saying, you can apply them to what you think he did or didn't do, and it'll fuck it up for you. Yeah, bro, if Hitler puts out a fucking R&B soul album tomorrow with Funkadelic on it... I'm not forgiving him. I'm not like forgiving him. I'm not forgiving him either.
Starting point is 02:58:47 What I'm saying is like, never forgetting Hitler. Yeah, the art, that shit jams. I do think some of them bitches and them families and them niggas and shit like that that was letting their daughter go with R. Kelly, they knew what the fuck they was doing.
Starting point is 02:58:58 Like, I'm not letting my daughter go with R. Kelly nowhere, nigga. Or any motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? Like what every black parent said when they watched that documentary. They were just like, if i ever let my daughter go yeah i'm not yeah i'm not what the fuck is going on you know i'm saying and then like the shit with the hotel i think a lot of that shit was bullshit but i think r kelly a nasty motherfucker he need to go to jail but you know i'm saying yeah i think that he let a hoe be a hoe but he was just dipping in
Starting point is 02:59:22 shallow waters man you can't yeah you can't do that r kelly like go be a hoe, but he was just dipping in shallow waters. Man, you can't do that shit, bro. Yeah, you can't do that, R. Kelly. Like, oh, come on. Go be a hoe with some older, like, with some grown people. And it's like, man, you rich as fuck. You can have any woman you want. Why do you want to fuck with a bitch that can't even drink at a bar with you? That's a power dynamic. I think there's a madness of that kind of fame.
Starting point is 02:59:37 Yeah. Like, the level of fame that he had. And you ever see that one video where he was on stage and these girls literally reach up and grab his dick while he's dancing and singing in front of him imagine sinatra in a similar circumstance oh my god i want you to stop and think and i'm not saying that sinatra did the same shit that r kelly did but i want you to imagine I want you to imagine what kind of a connection does this man have to
Starting point is 03:00:09 his fans? I mean, he is dancing in front of these ladies in there. He's singing to their face and they're patting him down and people are screaming. For the people that are just listening to this, this is wild shit. It's wild. I mean, this is Jesus Christ. It's wild. I mean, this is Jesus Christ. It's wild.
Starting point is 03:00:26 But they grab his dick. Eventually there it goes. There it goes. She's massaging his dick while he's singing in front of everybody. This is one of his last shows he did too. He's telling her to do it, by the way. He's saying, wipe my balls. Oh, people are wiping me.
Starting point is 03:00:42 Listen, we need Jimmy Fallon's and we also need R. Kelly's. Oh, my God. We need hyenas, and we need lions. Keep on wiping me. We need Republicans, and we need Democrats. We need everybody. Everybody.
Starting point is 03:00:58 Is she wiping his ass? There was some shit that he did that was different than this. The problem with this guy is the stuff that he did was like you start looking into it and you go, Jesus, how old is everybody? Like, what is this? It's like the stage shit, like doing that, the art that he produced, like being able to stand on stage and this girl grabs his dick in front of everybody. I'm not endorsing anything he's ever done ever ever, that's criminal. But that is wild.
Starting point is 03:01:26 That is fucking wild. That's wild. That's something old school doo-wop shit, but I feel like they were doing that shit back in the day, you know? But like that? Like, girls throwing panties on stage. I know, but they're grabbing his dick
Starting point is 03:01:37 in front of the whole world. I mean, you ever seen the Five Heartbeats? Oh, this is my favorite. Hold on, time out. This is my favorite R. Kelly song. Do you have your passport? Did you get your shots? Do you want to come back with Rob to America?
Starting point is 03:01:52 Do you have your passport? Did you get your shots? Girl, would you like to come back with Rob to America? As if he's Aladdin. As if he's Aladdin. As if he's Aladdin. He said, bitch, I will. Oh, my God. Did you get your shots?
Starting point is 03:02:15 Oh, my God. Are you singing the shit out of it, though? Oh, my god. Look, the background sex is like, what the fuck are we seeing? They just met and they're like, America. That is pure madness. Yo. What was that one?
Starting point is 03:02:42 It's kind of a jam. What was the one Where the girl calls up And he's mad He's getting his hair done Why are we in the studio What is that one Where Where the He has a
Starting point is 03:02:52 A whole thing Where he's going back and forth With this woman On the phone You know what I'm talking about When a woman's fed up What is this song When a woman's fed up
Starting point is 03:03:01 No no no no no She's mad at him And he's like Bitch I wish you would burn my motherfucking clothes. Oh, yeah, yeah. Real talk. That's what it is. Real talk.
Starting point is 03:03:11 Real talk. Real talk. He says to the woman, he goes, you what? What? He goes, bitch, I wish you would burn my motherfucking clothes. Real talk. Wait a minute. Calm down. Yeah, that's it. Real talk. Wait a minute. Calm down.
Starting point is 03:03:28 Yeah, that's it. Come on. I was at a club with who? Yeah. Get the fuck. Man. You know what? Girl, I'm not about to sit up here and argue with you about who's to blame.
Starting point is 03:03:42 Or call no names. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. with you about who's the blame what's right what's wrong Oh my god, this is last. Listen to this, listen to this. Did she say there were other guys there? Did she say there were other guys there? Were there other guys there? Well, tell me this. How the fuck she know I was with them other girls? Science!
Starting point is 03:04:18 Wait a minute, let me finish what I've got to say. I've been with you for five years and you're listening to your motherfucking girlfriends. I don't know why you fuck with them old jealous no man That nigga look at his hair Give me a little bit more Give me a little bit more I don't care if they Always accusing me of some old bullshit Give me a little bit more
Starting point is 03:04:33 But I'm just trying to have a good time Robert you did this Cause I heard you did that Don't you think I got enough bullshit on my mind Real talk Hold up Real talk Going through a motherfucking pedophile case Real talk.
Starting point is 03:04:47 Going through a motherfucking pedophile case. Real talk. All right, nigga. I fucking think I got enough bullshit. I ain't gave nobody no damn money, girl. Oh, my God. You see what your problem is. You're always running off at the mouth, telling your girls your motherfucking business.
Starting point is 03:05:11 When they don't eat with us, they don't sleep with us. Besides, what they eat don't make us shit. Real talk. Real talk. Okay, okay, okay. Oh my God. Did you just put a voicemail conversation as a song? Right. It is an art piece. Come on, man. It's song? Right. It is an art piece.
Starting point is 03:05:25 Come on, man. It's an art piece. It's an art piece. Look, man. Ray Charles couldn't see. R. Kelly couldn't read, man. He could make them both write a goddamn song. Listen, whatever he did that's illegal, I stand against it.
Starting point is 03:05:37 And I think we all stand against it. I stand against it. We all stand against it. But he is one of the best songs. I wish he didn't. Right. Because when you listen to some of the shit That he produces You're like god damn
Starting point is 03:05:47 Michael Jackson and R. Kelly Those are your people That's top tier music for me And Mike ain't do that shit Where's James Brown He says Mike didn't do that shit Mike ain't dead either Mike is alive
Starting point is 03:06:04 Alive and well. Where do you think he is? Yeah, where is he? In Vegas. Okay. He's not a UFO. Is he doing it in Vegas? He had Joe at the old house.
Starting point is 03:06:11 Okay. He had Joe at the old house. You grew up down the street from there, didn't you? Yeah, I grew up around the corner from them niggas. Imagine if someone who really did face their death fake it and do it successfully, like a Kennedy. Mike. Whoa. Which one?
Starting point is 03:06:24 Imagine one of them. Whoa. Which one? Imagine like one of them. Oh. Like Robert or John F. John F. Guys who get shot. Or Tupac or Elvis or Martin Luther. Tupac ain't having no. I don't think they're still alive.
Starting point is 03:06:33 Tupac ain't having no. I don't think Tupac did that. Elvis still alive. Kennedy won. You can see him die. Mike. I can see it. His fucking head explodes.
Starting point is 03:06:41 Mike is still alive. Dun, dun, dun. I'm telling you, man. Talk about it. Mike's alive, man. What's he doing? I mean, fucking hoes doing like regular nigga shit now. Now he on some, you know what I mean? Mike just want to chill now, man.
Starting point is 03:06:56 You got to understand, Mike was in a lot of debt, man. Not according to the papers. According to the papers, they're saying, you know, he was fucking kids and now he's gone over the overdose. What kids, though? They ain't never proven. Mike came to Gary, right, and he talked to me about this shit. He said, man, come on, man. He said, man, niggas gonna hate you for whatever you
Starting point is 03:07:12 do, man. And Mike didn't fuck with Tupac. Really? He whooped Tupac's ass. What? Michael Jackson whooped Tupac's ass? Michael Jackson whooped Tupac's ass, man. Tell me this story. Tell us this story shit. They was both fucking with Quincy Jones' daughter.
Starting point is 03:07:28 Rashida? Of course, of course. One of them. I don't know. Okay. Let's not name names, child. My bad, my bad. We just bleepin' out.
Starting point is 03:07:34 But Mike ain't fuck with Pac. Him and Pac was beefin'. I mean, shit, you might want to look into that mic on them, you know, on the Pac murder, really, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 03:07:42 You know? They was getting on this trail. He said, damn, man, they're making all these fucking Pac movies and documentaries. They're going to get on me. That would be hilarious. If Michael Jackson put the hit on Tupac. Mike put the hit on Pac, I think. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:07:57 That's hilarious. The time Tupac and Michael Jackson got in a fight. Yeah, Mike bang on Tupac. This is hilarious. Y'all thought I was bullshitting. Yeah, mic bang on Tupac. This is hilarious. Y'all thought I was bullshitting. Wow. Man, this is three years ago. So what caused this?
Starting point is 03:08:10 He said, damn, this is... He didn't talk about this. Dang. Tupac versus Mike, man. I'm telling you, man. You ever see that movie with Tupac and Mickey Rourke? Oh, yeah. It's like...
Starting point is 03:08:22 Bullet. Yeah. Wow. Good movie. Good movie. Tupac got killed in that movie though how'd you pull that out oh man i love mickey rourke you went on jeopardy so it was about her okay when it comes to tupac mickey rourke jeopardy i love mickey just one i love and tupac and mickey rourke were good friends yeah they were yeah they were in that movie together mickey rourke was one
Starting point is 03:08:42 of my favorite actors man the wrestler The wrestler? Oh, my God. The wrestler was really good. But, you know, you go back to, like, Angel Heart. You ever see Angel Heart? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. It's him and Robert De Niro. It's an amazing movie.
Starting point is 03:08:53 It's weird. It's a weird movie. And I want to say it's in the... 82? 87. 87. It's a really wild movie, man. What's it about?
Starting point is 03:09:04 It's about a guy selling his soul to the devil. What's the card again? Angel Heart. And doesn't realize it. And he's in the middle of, I believe it takes place in New Orleans or Louisiana or somewhere down there. It's really hot and sweaty. I'm about to watch that tonight. It seems like madness.
Starting point is 03:09:20 The devil would be here. Robert De Niro is the devil. And Robert De Niro is a fucking amazing devil. Did he play a better devil than Al Pacino? Oh, yeah. It's so different. It's smoldering. It's smoldering and believable. Go back to that picture that
Starting point is 03:09:34 you see. Look at that picture. Make that big. I'm telling you, Robert De Niro might be the most convincing devil ever in a movie. He's not trying to scare you. He figured out a way to play it off like it's this is not the conversation we're having is nonsense because you're going to hell like he's saying that there's no tension and anything he says everything is like
Starting point is 03:09:58 you're going to hell like i'm the devil and you're going to hell and throughout the movie It's very matter of fact it sounds like Yeah and Mickey Rourke's character Is trying to figure out What the fuck is going on It's like he's having these Like Bizarre feelings about reality Damn that's crazy
Starting point is 03:10:15 I gotta watch it again I'm trying to remember specifics about it But I'm pretty sure the premise was That he sold his soul to the devil Damn And Robert De Niro came to take his soul What You see if you can find the premise What the premise was that he sold his soul to the devil and robert came to take his soul what what you see if you can find the premise what the premise of uh angel heart was but robert de niro my he gets my vote that's the greatest devil ever damn okay mickey rourke is a private
Starting point is 03:10:38 detective contracted by lewis cypher lucifer get it? Robert De Niro to track down an iconic singer, Johnny Favorite. However, everybody that Angel questions about Favorite seems to meet a tragic demise. Eventually, the trail leads to, leads Angel to New Orleans where he learns that Favorite
Starting point is 03:10:56 had dabbled in the black arts as Favorite's whereabouts, Favorite's whereabouts and true identity become clear. Angel learns that being, being hired by Cipher was not a random choice that's that's a teaser I think I'm pretty sure that's what it was I'm pretty sure that he had sold his soul it's a dope movie man and it's uh I think it's like Mickey Rourke at his
Starting point is 03:11:22 prime yeah it's in his prime in this movie he was awesome yeah he again it's like Mickey Rourke at his prime Yeah He was in his prime In this movie He was one of the Boxer yeah He Again it's like We were talking about Tyson Or we were talking about Anybody else
Starting point is 03:11:32 There's only a few years You can exist At that High of a level of RPM Yeah Just fucking We're breaking in on We're reentering
Starting point is 03:11:41 Yeah The tiles are chipping off We're on fire. That guy hit some, like Chinatown. Remember that movie? Chinatown. That's the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:11:51 He hit some high levels with those movies, man. And Sin City. Yeah. He had green business himself. Yeah. Guys like that, man. Fucking De Niro De Niro dude How about Taxi Driver
Starting point is 03:12:08 Oh man Come on How about Raging Bull Raging Bull yeah The most quotable movie ever Yeah Raging Bull's shit Raging Bull I mean just The Irishman was good
Starting point is 03:12:19 The Irishman was cool It was long as fuck I still haven't seen it You can't fuck no bitch to it If you watch on Netflix That shit long as fuck Bitch be like i don't understand this shut your dumb ass up bitch it's the irish is it complex it's more confusing than tenant tenants no hell no super content it sucks i hate tennant daria i watched you like that movie i
Starting point is 03:12:39 liked 85 percent of it 85 percent yeah which is good enough for me. I hate 10 minutes. I go to sleep 10 minutes in. I can't even get through that shit. It's like that other shit that's like that. The same director. Yeah, come on, nigga. I feel like the whole fucking movie, they're trying to play mind tricks with me. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 03:12:56 And I don't want to fuck with it. I see your point. Do you like straightforward action movies? Yes, love straightforward action movies. Like John Wick? I mean, I don't john wick because i don't love the script and some of the antics of the shit but i like the shooting and shit like that i like the action of it but like i'm trying to see if it's like a great a great action movie i'm trying
Starting point is 03:13:16 to see where what's the last great action movie that i saw shit it's been a while right since one like really clicked yeah the old guard the old guard was good to me what's the old guard uh it's a movie um with uh charlize theron about uh i didn't see that it's very it's pretty good it's on netflix it's uh about um people who can't die oh jesus christ yeah so it's like you you know it's like she like fucking been around for centuries and she can't get killed she'd have been like different she'd have been like different wars and shit like that like the civil war all this shit you know what i'm saying so it's like you know it's about her and a group of people on the earth it's like certain people that like can't die you know that gives me anxiety right legitimately not be able to die yeah well here's
Starting point is 03:14:08 the thing here's the question do you enjoy life right now word i do love it yeah i love it what if it goes on forever no what do you mean forever when does it end when does it end everybody wants to know when it ends like if you said that you are you as you are right now forever, are you okay with that? Hell yeah. What if you never get sick and you never get old and you just stay right here forever? Is that good enough? Are you sure? Are you sure you're not going to go mad? How long can you stay right here
Starting point is 03:14:36 forever? That's a good question. If it gets to be like 900,000 years from now, and I'm like, dude, I can't do this anymore. Yeah, there's no way. I can't do it anymore. I'm so bored.
Starting point is 03:14:48 I mean, it's a scene in that movie. The Trillion Joe Rogan Experience podcast. I can't believe I can't die. It's crazy. It's a scene in that movie. I don't even want to give it away, but it's one of the people in the movie that can't die or whatever. So it's like a group, like a,
Starting point is 03:15:02 I forgot what time period they were in, but they thought the bitch was like a witch. So these people, they was like, yo, we got to burn, they keep burning her, they keep hanging her, she can't die. You know what I'm saying? So they're like, all right. So they lock her in a cage and then put her underwater so she can't get out the cage. And she just drowns every day and comes back to life every day. That's gotta be insanity. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:15:27 Oh my God. So it's like she drowns every second and then comes back to life. Drowns and she's locked underwater so they put her under the sea. That gives me anxiety. Right. Isn't that a crazy way to think?
Starting point is 03:15:38 I was like, damn, I can never die but I'm dying every day and living every... It's crazy. And coming back. That part of the movie had me shook. That's why I it's crazy that that that's that part of the movie here be sure that's why I was like yeah that's a good feeling what a clever storyline yeah cuz you know it's gonna hit on the two things that everybody's totally terrified of right like the the nonsense of it all or it
Starting point is 03:15:56 has no meaning because you just do the same thing over and over and over and over again you die every day and they feel all the pain pain of dying, but they just come back to life. But you come back to life. They feel it all. It's the same, always. Yeah, then your lungs explode, yeah. That's like something, again, it's like biblical.
Starting point is 03:16:14 That's a biblical kind of thing, right? Reincarnation, yeah. It is kind of biblical because it's so crazy. It makes so little sense. It is crazy. I think the good movie I just saw was Judas and the Black Messiah. I just saw that, too, as well.
Starting point is 03:16:29 That sticks to your ribs a little bit. The part that fucked me up was the actual real dude that was in the movie at the end, the dude that set him up with the feds. He looked just like Lakeith, actually. It was great. Yeah, he looked just like him. And how he killed himself right after that documentary came out. Killed himself, yeah.
Starting point is 03:16:43 No, I heard he ran in traffic. Oh, he ran in traffic. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. Really? Yeah, he committed suicide. I assume hanging, yeah. But no, I heard he tried to hang himself, but yeah, he ran into traffic.
Starting point is 03:16:53 Yeah, he ran into, that's a crazy suicide. William O'Neill, so yeah, he did Eye on the Prize on PBS in like 1990 when, yeah, when he talks about his involvement with the feds and going to assassinate Fred Hampton and him being involved in it. And then, yeah, that night he kills himself why why would he do that why like what got like eye on the prize like yeah it's obviously some black history shit yeah come on here and talk about being a snitch and kill one of the leaders eye on the prize all about fred hampton and the
Starting point is 03:17:21 nigga who got him killed right and the nigga that got him killed yeah they really And the nigga that got him killed. Yeah. They really nailed it. And he was on that motherfucker trying to defend that shit. Like, yeah, I talked about it, but I felt like my contribution was like, he thought that he was like a black history martyr.
Starting point is 03:17:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, remember in the movie he was even, I mean, we can't talk about the movie, but yeah. I mean, it's a true story, so I guess he was saying that he had three leaders.
Starting point is 03:17:41 It was like, you know, looking at Jesus and Martin Luther King and then this FBI agent was like his other idol or whatever. Oh, my God. Yeah. It's another one that QAnon didn't promote. It's another conspiracy.
Starting point is 03:17:53 That's the problem with something like QAnon. You've got to chase down the people that live in the center of the earth first. We've got to find out, is that true? Okay, let's move on to kid fuckers. We're going to eventually get to civil liberties and racial justice, but we've got to take care of the kid fuckers. That's the Catholic Church. Don't even talk about that. That's the craziest part of 20th and 21st century America.
Starting point is 03:18:17 Right, and R. Kelly in jail. How come ain't no Pope? R. Kelly, they want to take down Epstein. He didn't kill himself, but it's like, yeah, we still. Epstein alive. The government bailed out the Catholic Church who doesn't pay taxes $4.4 billion. R. Kelly, they want to take down Epstein. He didn't kill himself. But it's like, yeah, we still. Epstein alive. The government bailed out the Catholic Church who doesn't pay taxes $4.4 billion. There was some weird shit, too, where they would relocate people.
Starting point is 03:18:32 They would find someone who had molested children in one particular parish or one particular area. And they would take them to a new place. South America, probably. What is that? Is the documentary Hear No Evil? I think um is the documentary um hear no evil i think that's a documentary yeah there's one of them about that but there's there's one case of one guy who went on to molest i think it was a hundred deaf kids yeah so they moved him they moved him from one place where he was doing something to kids to another place where he may
Starting point is 03:19:04 have molested as many as 100 deaf kids. Do you ever wonder why that... And they moved him there? Yeah. Why that thing? Why that's so rampant in that religion? I think it's one... There's no excuses.
Starting point is 03:19:18 Just like there's no excuses for R. Kelly, there's no excuses for these guys. Correct. We're just talking about these things. Right. You can't tell people they can't have sex. Thank you. It's just like telling people they can't eat or telling people they can't drink water or telling people they can't sleep. Right.
Starting point is 03:19:35 We have urges. Right. And for you to tell this priest that he can't ever, you're perverting what it is to be a person. ever you get you're perverting what it is to be a person so whatever comes out of that perversion right whether it's kid fucking or or rape or or self-harm or whatever the fuck it is whatever drug abuse whatever the fuck it is it comes out of this suppression right it's just not good for anybody we all know that we all know that it's not good for anybody in any any walk of life but they volunteer for that kind of they don't know any better man they're they're fucking kids when they go in when i was in high school when i was in high school there was a kid who lived right up
Starting point is 03:20:12 the street and uh he was becoming a priest and i knew his sister i went to school with his sister and we would travel on the bus together to school and it was known he was a couple years ahead of me it was known he was going to be a priest we all knew it and like they get them in when they're young and they and they ordain them and there's places where i'm sure just like everything else in the world where they're they're strictly adhering to the bible and they're wonderful beautiful people they just want everybody to love everyone and they want the best for the community but like everything else there's there's good ones and there's bad ones yeah and the problem is when you when you protect the bad ones because you don't want to destroy the whole organization then you you you let people like us talk and go hey
Starting point is 03:20:55 they're fucking kids right exactly how many kids like a lot of a lot of kids a lot of kids hundreds of thousands who knows how many right they haven't documented it. Right. They only have the cases. Anybody who knows people who know priests know that there's been some shit that's gone down. Exactly. It's like the cops. It's crazy. In every city, though.
Starting point is 03:21:13 We got to defund the Catholic Church. In every city. We got to defund that shit. We got to defund the Catholic Church, man. You can't do that anymore. Just like you can't lie if you're a banker. You know what I'm saying? Just like you can't have poor construction lie if you're a banker just like you know i'm saying just like you can't have like poor construction standards if you're a civil engineer you you gotta do the
Starting point is 03:21:29 right thing man across the board whether it's with religion or with finances or with government or health care everything has to be done the right way across the board i can't fuck with catholicism because i can't go sit and talk to no motherfucker and confess to no human being right like what the fuck so you just holding everybody's secrets you go outside with like hey man shit you I can't go sit and talk to no motherfucker and confess to no human being. Right. Like, what the fuck? So you just holding everybody's secrets. You go outside and be like, hey, man, shit. You know that nigga be digging in his ass, man.
Starting point is 03:21:53 I had a bit about confession. You know what I'm saying? Like, why the fuck am I going to confess to you, bitch? Exactly. Fuck you. Who you confessing to? So what makes you so much better than me? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:22:04 That's a major question. Yeah, that's crazy. I couldn't do no shit like that. So I always looked at that like, oh, that's kind of. Some dudes just wake up every day and go, keep it in your pants. Keep it in your pants. And they keep going. They get through years and years of just keep it in your pants. They don't do anything.
Starting point is 03:22:17 Keep it in your pants. Is that one time? It's like being an NFL DB. I'll stick this guy for 99% or maybe 85% of these passes. To your knee blows apart. Yeah. Or you get a double move. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:22:31 Both those things can happen. Yeah. Yeah. God damn it, man. Isn't it crazy, though? How can you go? Why do you sign up to not fuck? Right.
Starting point is 03:22:43 It doesn't make sense. You're voluntarily doing it. Well, here's the reason for it. Do you know the reason for it they those guys were running shit this was the thing like back in the day before they made them celibate they're like we got a problem here these priests are fucking all these women they're probably fucking everybody right you're talking about thousands of years ago people were wild they lived to be 12 they just fucked each other and jumped off cliffs they didn't know what they were doing
Starting point is 03:23:07 they were wild people and that's when they decided hey hey hey if you want to be a priest you can't fuck anymore oh my god I can't believe they did this it's like impeaching Trump for the third time they put the brakes on the chaos they're like no more
Starting point is 03:23:22 you gotta stop fucking everybody that's how I feel like monogamy got invented. I feel like by a motherfucker that couldn't get no bitches. You taking all the bitches. Hell no. Just one. Only one. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:23:35 You were entitled to one bitch. What book is that? What book? I just feel like, you know what I mean? I think that's how that shit got created. Do you think it would be looked? And even the playing field for like ugly dudes and shit that can't get bitches do you think it'd be looked at differently if there was one woman who had like 10 boyfriends it's one woman who just had a lot of money and she
Starting point is 03:23:53 had these 10 male strippers it don't bother me chaka conflict everybody in her bed hey man there's a book called real time and it worked the book a wheel of time and it's all about that polyamory stuff and women run it they They say, I let my dude go fuck other people or whatever because I'm a busy person. So these women, these queens
Starting point is 03:24:10 are running the country and they make these dudes, you know, like, I can't always be with him so I don't want to make him feel bad. So yeah,
Starting point is 03:24:16 you can go fuck other people. Is that the plot of Wonder Woman 1984? Yes, Joe. I don't know if that's the plot. Is it Alway? That's Wheel of Time. That's a book.
Starting point is 03:24:23 Wonder Woman, that bitch played Wonder Woman fine as fuck. I fuck shit out of that. Gal Gadot. I wonder, bitch. How that feel? The first one was good.
Starting point is 03:24:34 Yeah. I really enjoyed the first one. I didn't see the second one. I like it. It's good. I think DC trying to come. Well, they can't fuck with Marvel. Let's be real.
Starting point is 03:24:41 They got Batman. Isn't that interesting, though? Batman's just a rich dude. He's just a rich dude with a cool suit. That's why he the best superhero, because he don't need no fake ass power. He's be real. They got Batman. Isn't that interesting, though? Like, Batman's just a rich dude. He's just a rich dude with a cool suit. That's why he's the best superhero, because he don't need no fake-ass power. He's a weird one, because you don't really want to be him, because you could. Anybody who had
Starting point is 03:24:54 the suit and all the gadgets and shit, you know, he's not, like, particularly talented. That's true. I did see Damon Wayans' Blank Man. That's better. See, the thing is, like, Batman doesn't have any physical, like, the idea of Batman versus Superman is so fucking stupid. Ridiculous, man. That's better. See, the thing is, Batman doesn't have any physical... The idea of Batman versus Superman is so fucking stupid. Ridiculous.
Starting point is 03:25:09 It's so stupid. It's an alien who can kill you. Nigga, hold on. Time out, nigga. If I got the motherfucking Kryptonite, he can't do shit. All right, but where you get Kryptonite from? Batman had that shit. Yeah, he got that shit.
Starting point is 03:25:21 He had that shit. He paid for it. You're right. He had Kryptonite. He had Kryptonite guns and all that shit. He said, fuck Superman. I just want to look at things rationally when I'm talking about Superman. When it comes to Superman, there was a movie where he spun the earth backwards and went
Starting point is 03:25:35 back in time. Yes. What is that rich dude in a cape going to do to fuck with that? You going to pull out your kryptonite? Oh, really? I respect that. This guy's got laser beams for eyeballs guy wants a one second 40 you're not fucking with him i respect that i i think superman's such an old generic old 1930s white idea right you know what i'm saying of a superpower because i'm like that's so bullshit you could do everything like yeah yeah yeah fuck you you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 03:26:05 if I had a super power like we said at breakfast I would want to be that dude in the jumper movie look he's turning back time look at this movie Superman's gonna turn back time cause somebody died right
Starting point is 03:26:16 it's probably the greatest thing that ever happened since the outlaw Josie Wales kicked open a saloon door is this the one with Richard Pryor it looks so bad no this isn't the one with Richard Pryor? It looks so bad.
Starting point is 03:26:25 No, this isn't the one with Richard Pryor. This is before that. This is crazy. Yeah, this is when... I think it is. I don't think it's before... I don't think it's the Richard Pryor one, though. Look, you get it?
Starting point is 03:26:37 He's making the Earth go backwards. Get it? Get it? Imagine. Imagine. He can go so fast that he can actually... Oh, don't worry about animals being extinct. I just have this thing I have to do for this chick.
Starting point is 03:26:50 Or bring back slavery. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah. Like, what if you go too far? What if I bring back the Black Plague? Whoopsies. I just want to save this chick.
Starting point is 03:26:58 I really want to fuck. Right. You selfish piece of shit. I mean, you break it down like that, you're right. That nigga's supering, man. He didn't know what the fuck was going to happen. He tried to rewind niggas back into slavery. For real, though.
Starting point is 03:27:13 For real. What if he stopped at $14.92? Fuck! Right. I got to eat something. I got to eat something. We're going to spin it up a little. We're going to get it right, kids.
Starting point is 03:27:23 I'm like, hey, man, you better fast forward this shit. And the wife's yelling at him. You better fast forward this shit. Why didn't you use the map? That's the wife, Lois Lane. And he had a thing for Lois Lane, which didn't make any sense, right? You know why Batman better than Superman? Because he had real ops.
Starting point is 03:27:41 Did he? Nobody had those. Who was Superman beef with? Lex Luger? He had no beef. That he? Nobody had them. Who was Superman beef with? Lex Luger? He had no beef. That's it. Lex Luger. The problem is they didn't have a lot of bad guys back then.
Starting point is 03:27:51 It's not. Batman had real bad guys. He had the Joker, the Riddler. The Joker, Riddler, Riddler. Ivy. You know what I'm saying? The Freeze. You was good as your.
Starting point is 03:27:58 Like with boxing, man. You was good as your opponents, man. That's a good point. I can't fuck with that point. He never had no. Yeah, he never had no op. with that point he's never had no yeah he never had no op you right he never had no real op
Starting point is 03:28:08 so who's he fighting man what the fuck he's fighting hurricanes and natural disasters and shit yeah that's why and Superman
Starting point is 03:28:15 so caught up on a bitch Batman was switching bitches out you on low Batman had all kind of hoes Batman fucking the reporter
Starting point is 03:28:24 he fucking the bitch at the laboratory. Mayor, deputy mayor. Deputy mayor, whatever. He could have been gay. He could have been fucking the what nigga? MF Doom said that Bat-T-Boy song about Robin and Batman. Oh, nah. Damn, MF Doom said that recipe's MF Doom.
Starting point is 03:28:40 I don't think Batman was gay. I was joking. So I don't support that MF Doom song. But I feel you, MF Doom. Yeah, Batty Boyz, that's a good one. MF Doom did not show up at his concerts sometimes. He had sent another motherfucker in a mask. That was very clever.
Starting point is 03:28:57 Really? Yeah. Like a sore throat or something? No, it was no sore throat. He just didn't want to go. He's a fucking peculiar individual. Oh, really? He had so much anxiety, he didn't want to go. He's a fucking peculiar individual. Oh,
Starting point is 03:29:05 really? Yeah. He had so much anxiety he didn't want to... It wasn't fucking anxiety. It wasn't? Get the fuck out of here. It wasn't anxiety? That motherfucker was doing
Starting point is 03:29:11 drugs and drinking, man. It was MF Doom. He was getting fucked up. If anything, he creates anxiety. So they say he had anxiety. That's what he would say. I think that he's
Starting point is 03:29:19 one of the most mysterious people ever. That's what's so great in rap. That's what's so great about him. Straight on. That's what's so great about him. So I think the hits just sometimes say, fuck it. Pay somebody? If I know I'm about to get some money to do a show,
Starting point is 03:29:35 and I can send a motherfucker there, and I don't got to go and I can still get the money, I would do that shit just to be like, you know what? I can fuck with these people and I can do that. I mean, it's all some Banksy shit. He was sending somebody in a mask in that mask and they was doing the shit the Banksy thing is so crazy
Starting point is 03:29:47 yeah how long is that guy gonna be able to keep that up like people know who he is a little bit but I think they don't though really
Starting point is 03:29:53 not really right like there's no like stamp on it but the art is so good the art is fascinating yeah but also it's like
Starting point is 03:30:01 the idea that there's this guy that nobody knows exactly who it is and he makes this art that's coveted by everybody around the world because it doesn't just stand for art
Starting point is 03:30:08 it also stands for some sort of a rejection of our modern culture some weird ways he did some crazy shit he did that I think he made a painting and some shit
Starting point is 03:30:19 and like sold it and then shredded it when it was sold at auction there was a shredder built into the frame but but here's the thing it didn't even go all the way down the frame this is the jokes on him i would want that more than i would want a real one because first of all it's not like the image was like a photograph or anything like that you know what i mean it's not like it's so perfect you can't believe it's really a painting no it's like a fascinating piece of art so like it's so perfect, you can't believe it's really a painting. No, it's like a fascinating piece of art.
Starting point is 03:30:45 So if it's got all these shred marks because he tricked me and cut my fucking painting up, I'm even happier I bought it. Right? Let me see what it looks like. It wasn't supposed to stop. Good. And it happened right after the auction. Let it go all the way down and be like tassels on your fucking hula hoop.
Starting point is 03:31:02 So he didn't shred the whole shit? No, it was supposed to go all the way through, but the thing he set up fucked up. Oh. I think the halfway thing actually makes it a little more valuable. It's all interesting. Even if it goes all the way to the bottom, it shreds this painting.
Starting point is 03:31:17 It just started happening. If it stops right there, just that alone is really interesting. Just the fact that this is the this is the painting that was up on the wall and it shreds like that you wouldn't i would want that to like sit the way it is there post shredded more than i've i would even want it in a frame right right look at this look at this because that's not even his best work. Well, no.
Starting point is 03:31:46 You know what I mean? The girl with the... But it might be because of this. That's exactly right. That's what I was trying to get to. Yeah. Where does it stop, Jamie? Right there.
Starting point is 03:31:53 That's it where it stops? That's perfect. Yeah. That's perfect. I'll take it. You can afford it, yeah. No, because it represents chaos. Like, I don't want a perfect painting. I want a painting where he tricked me into buying this fucking painting yeah got sliced
Starting point is 03:32:09 did he that is your taste in art though you like you like chaos though i definitely like chaos yeah that's your shit so like that's why i love rose battle yeah man it's one of the reasons why i just love to come to your show roast battle was the most creative comic writing like focused show yeah it was an amazing show the handicap guy was the best for me oh joe yorel yeah oh yeah amazing and it can be again i mean once all this shit dies down and we can do live comedy other than florida and texas come to texas fuck it i'm I'm leaving California. That's what I'm talking about, Freddie. I'm out of here, man. When it comes back, we got some big plans of roast
Starting point is 03:32:49 but we're working with one of your producers on it. Oh, yeah? Who? Mad Lib. Mad Lib. Shout out to Mad Lib. Yeah. Texas, man. Make a whole album. Right here, you can do some great roast battles. There's some funny people out here, man. They had a thing called Spike Club out here. So they're well-versed.
Starting point is 03:33:06 They're well-versed in the roast. This is one of the first places we came when we were touring. Let me ask you this because this has troubled me. Why is it that some people who are really good roasters
Starting point is 03:33:15 can't apply that same energy to making their act as good as where it is when they attack someone by what they look like or how stupid they are or whatever their life is fucked up about that they know about. Like some guys are so good at that.
Starting point is 03:33:31 They hit so hard. But they can't figure out how to do that and just stand up. So you go see them at a roast and you go, holy shit, this guy's a killer. But then you see their stand up and you go, why? Tell me why. Different. They're different columns. They're different. guy's a killer but then you see their stand-up and you go why tell me different different they're different columns they're different uh there's different pillars in in and i guess the comedy genre right like you have sketch you have stand-up then you have roast battle you have improv right
Starting point is 03:33:57 yeah and roast battle is different because it's your opponent is the subject like with stand-up there's no opponent it's just you're trying to make the crowd laugh. This, you're trying to make the crowd laugh. You're trying to take this guy down. You're trying to make your idols proud of you. You're trying to make this crowd laugh. You know what I mean? There's so much that goes into it, and they're one-liners, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 03:34:14 for the most part, and it's a subject. Not to say that you aren't the subject when you're doing your own act, but there's so many things that go into you building an hour or half an hour or 45 minutes to me just trying to get through 12 jokes. I think so, yes. But I also think so that there's something that forces them into action that regular stand-up doesn't.
Starting point is 03:34:34 Fire and flight kind of thing. Yeah, but you know you've got a thing that's going to happen in like 18 days or whatever the fuck it is. Yeah. I don't know how far in advance people come. Sometimes it's going to be a week. Sometimes it's going to be two months. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 03:34:49 So they have a date. And whether it's a week or two months they that's what they're focused on and then they start writing this i'm gonna say this what do you think about that and they'll practice their friends like right you know and they get they get real hyper focused but what if everybody did that with everything what if everybody did with with your whole act right why don't we i mean yeah that's the great question yeah i don't know why everybody's just like attack their their self like that because it does take a lot of respect to like think about somebody else instead of your own act yeah you know so i you're right it's almost like how fast do you run if you're running by yourself versus how fast you run if you're in a race if you're running by yourself
Starting point is 03:35:23 like this is it as fast as i can go but if you're in a race he's like oh well i can run faster you're like right bitch right you're running instant comps the competition level just raises yeah okay yeah boxing so that's the thing about roast battle that makes it so special it forces people into action where when they're not confronted by like uh impending doom if they don't get some fucking good, solid jokes together, then they get lazy. Word. That's like, you know, I'll equate that to basketball, actually. I remember I was better maybe playing a team sport
Starting point is 03:35:53 because my position was point guard rather than me just playing one-on-one with a dude. I may beat him, he may beat me, but I wouldn't look good as a one-on-one player, but I'd look way better with a team. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I get that.
Starting point is 03:36:04 Yeah. Stand-up, to me, it just seemed just uh very like conversational like my favorite like stand-up guys are like guys that like um i feel like they just like talking to me you know what i mean i don't feel like they like trying to like hit me with punch lines you know i mean i feel like it's just all natural and they always like come back and make it all linked together to me that's what a whole good stand-up act is. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it's just storytelling. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:36:32 All it is. Like Robin Harris, he told the goddamn Bebe Kid story, and it turned into a fucking movie. He has one of my favorite jokes ever. He goes, I don't like a pretty girl. He goes, pretty girl's a lot of work. He goes, I like an ugly girl You can tell him anything He goes, bitch, I'm going to the moon
Starting point is 03:36:47 I'm going to the moon, then we ain't gonna come back She goes, well, you be careful while you're up there It's one of those jokes where you hear it Your knees get weak You fall to the ground Robin Harris was an assassin He was an assassin The joke about the piccolo player.
Starting point is 03:37:05 Yeah. I know that one. You got to know that one. He said, I want to shake the head of the man that's sitting next to the man, that's sitting next to the man, that called my piccolo player a motherfucker. It's about to fuck us in the chest. It's ridiculous. It's such a ridiculous bit. Bro, it's so crazy.
Starting point is 03:37:22 I can't believe you ain't ever heard of him. No, well. We going to listen to him. I found out about him right before he died. I found out about him when I was living in Boston. Oh, my God. There's one album that's released of Robin Harris. You can get it on cassette.
Starting point is 03:37:35 I don't know if it's available on CD or on iTunes or anything like that. But Robin Harris had it. He is one of the greats. Dude, he was so funny. He was sweet Dick Willie. He threw the right thing, dog. Yes, yes. He was in Mo' Better Blues, too.
Starting point is 03:37:48 Right, remember? He told that joke in Mo' Better Blues about the fat girl, the ugly girl. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he said. Dude, Robin Harris was,
Starting point is 03:37:55 he was a pioneer. He was a pioneer, dog. He was a guy that made it look like he was having so much fun. That was part of what, like he figured out
Starting point is 03:38:04 this vibe where he was just having so much fun and he would have so much fun watching him part of what what is like he figured out this vibe where he was just having so much fun and he would have so much fun watching him like there was a positive there was like this like confidence that you had in him that he was funny right it's like he's like i'm going to the moon he come in the room it's like he that old black uncle that always got some shit to say about something like he gonna complain about everything it could be a spread he's like oh man well fuck this shit They put too much goddamn lettuce on here, man. Fuck this.
Starting point is 03:38:27 He always got... Like you said, from Do The Right Thing, when he was Sweet Dick Willie, he was like, why they call you Sweet Dick Willie? He's like, my bitch call me Sweet. You know what I'm saying? He's just an agitated black... Older black men cursing is so funny to me.
Starting point is 03:38:43 I don't know, because I grew up on that. My granddad was such a, he cursed so fucking much. Yeah. So him and his friends cursing is just some of the most, like, comical shit to me. I don't know why, but. It's like Bernie Mac. I watch that shit on YouTube. I be pulling up old black men cursing, and I watch that shit. Is that a category?
Starting point is 03:39:01 It is, though. Yeah, bro. Like, they just be like, they just say dumb dumb shit like, go to hell, go to shit. They curse different. I saw Bernie Mac in Boston. Oh, my God. Bernie Mac is the greatest. Before the Kings of Comedy, when he was doing clubs, he did the Comedy Connection in Boston.
Starting point is 03:39:16 Oh, shit. I don't remember why I was in the area. Maybe I was coming from a gig or going to a gig or whatever, and I stopped in like, God damn, dude. God damn, he was murdering oh my god murder yeah the best pretty sure it was the comedy connection trying to remember which club i'm pretty sure it was the comedy kitchen fan you all but i never remembered like the power that he had in his delivery on stage my god i would love to see that dude he was like i never never got to see a live. When he was like, I ain't scared of you, motherfucker. It was that kind of power. You know?
Starting point is 03:39:50 That fearless shit, I think we all look for that in standards, right? Dude, let me tell you one of the best sets I've ever seen in my fucking life. Eddie Griffin on Def Jam. One of the best sets I've ever seen. Def Jam has some fucking classic sets. Eddie Griffin comes out in shorts. Eddie Griffin comes out guns blazing in shorts. And I remember watching him kill.
Starting point is 03:40:09 And I was probably like a year in a comedy. I'm like, I should just quit. I should just quit. I should just quit. I just can't do that. I can't do that. That guy, I cannot let that guy. That guy in his prime, man.
Starting point is 03:40:20 God. Dude, people forget. People forget. Yeah. You know who else people forget about? Damon Wayans. Damon Wayans. You know why people forget? People forget. Yeah. You know who else people forget about? Damon Wayans. Damon Wayans. You know why people forget?
Starting point is 03:40:28 I mean, man. Because after the comedy career goes and they get all these goddamn shows, like you think it's Damon Wayans from My Wife and Kids, but Damon Wayans' HBO standup is one of the greatest of all time. Yeah, The Last Stand. The Last Stand. The Last Stand. That was the shit where he broke the mic.
Starting point is 03:40:43 He talked about Tommy Hearns. Did he? Yeah, he talked about Tommy Hearns in there. He talked about Mike Tyson, the mic He talked about Tommy Hearns Did he? Yeah he talked about Tommy Hearns in there He talked about Mike Tyson too Mike Tyson and Tommy Hearns He said Mike Tyson Walked up to me
Starting point is 03:40:49 He was like Hey I'm gonna fuck you With your ass I said okay Mike No he said well He goes I have to talk stuff Like well don't be
Starting point is 03:40:58 Taken so long Oh yeah Remember that Remember that Right Oh my god You remember that Oh that's right.
Starting point is 03:41:06 That's another underrated dude, man. Dude, Damon Wayans. Damon Wayans is one of the greatest, bro. He made a shitload of money doing TV shows. Yeah, he did. And he just stopped. People don't give Jamie Foxx his credit. He loves stand-up.
Starting point is 03:41:19 Dude, I saw him at the improv. He was murdering. I want to see Jamie Foxx do another stand-up. The lab. He was fucking around in the lab. i want to see jamie fox the little room the lab he was fucking around the lab you want to hear you want to talk about discipline that guy has filmed every show he's ever done really since the 1990s he brings he brings a tripod and he brings a camera some sort of video camera to every show he does he films all of them he edits them himself and he goes over all of his material damon wayans damon wayans. Every show he's ever done. He edits. He does it all
Starting point is 03:41:46 himself. He was carrying the fucking tripod with this camera at the improv and he set it down. And we were talking. He's like, I film every show I do. And I've done it since the 1990s. He's like thousands of shows. He goes over everything.
Starting point is 03:42:01 That's crazy. Smart. That's what you're supposed to do. I want to see Jamie Foxx do another show people will be underrating his stand up he's one of the best too Jamie Foxx I might need security he could do anything
Starting point is 03:42:11 hell of a stand up special he could do anything there's people that could just do anything I might need security man there's people that just they know
Starting point is 03:42:24 that he can sing he can do comedy he can pretend he's different human beings he was ray fox i mean uh ray charles brother he was ray charles and it was brilliant right and he realized how talented he is at singing and he's actually playing the fucking piano i mean come on man you think about about that roster for In Living Color, right? I was just about to say, you took the words right out of my mouth. Jim Carrey, Jamie Foxx, Damon Wayans, Keenan, Kim Wayans. I was at a pool hall in 1991, 92, whatever the fuck it was, and we were playing pool,
Starting point is 03:42:58 and I looked up the first episode I ever saw of In Living Color. It was during a football game. It was like a halftime thing, and Jim Carrey was playing a burn victim. He was playing that. Fire Marshal Bill. Oh my god. And I remember we were playing pool. Me and my friend Johnny were like, oh my
Starting point is 03:43:14 god. I can't fucking believe this is real. That guy's pretending he's a burn victim. You know what's kind of funny? When he did Joe Biden, the two characters are not that far apart. Let me tell you something. Really? Yeah, I mean. Let me see what Joe Biden, the two characters are not that far apart. Let me tell you something. Really? Let me see what Joe Biden's like because I know
Starting point is 03:43:29 Fire Marshal Bill. Let me tell you something. Tommy Davidson was there too. That Living Color cast was one of the best. Oh my gosh. Better than any SNL cast. They have good individuals. Except the one with Eddie Murphy
Starting point is 03:43:46 There's some great ones In the early days With John Belushi And Dan Aykroyd And you know Gilda Ratner There's some great ones In the early days
Starting point is 03:43:53 But the problem with Like Saturday Night Live Is not that there's not Amazing sketches There's just so many of them Right Every week they have to do A new one
Starting point is 03:44:01 There's just so many Yeah Like the odds You're gonna have all perfect All bangers right He's doing his mouth he's like tightening that lip and like yeah it's similar but it's a different character obviously maybe he's just tapping into that old just like him though you know here's what there's gonna be a progression of things that happen people are gonna realize that okay we can relax trump is
Starting point is 03:44:23 never gonna be president again He's not the president It's over Joe Biden's won Now What have we done But Trump can run again But can he Yeah
Starting point is 03:44:32 Oh that's right He's supposed to announce it again this week That he's going to run again At the CPAC That he's supposed to talk at He said he's going to announce He might have to call those aliens Right
Starting point is 03:44:40 So imagine how he's about to turn He might have to call those aliens He's about to turn these Trumpers All the way up dog They already stormed the Capitol. Why can't you just do a talk show? We need to talk to him about podcasts. I say, yeah.
Starting point is 03:44:49 One thing that's like, man, he's going to be the greatest free agency in podcast history. That would, right? The thing is, he's like a super competitive guy. I mean, that's why. You ever see that White House press correspondent's dinner? I think that's what it was, where Obama was on stage and he was talking to Trump and he was making fun of him and he said, here's one thing that I am
Starting point is 03:45:11 that you'll never be. I'm the president of the United States and everybody goes crazy. Have you ever seen that? Like, allegedly, that's what's stuck in that motherfucker's head. I believe it. That's what's stuck in his head and he's like, oh yeah? Oh yeah? I'll fucking show you. And now he's still on that. And then he and he won he's still on that same shit he won shit it on Obama same man yeah when the history books are done yeah we will be sad that guy did that he was
Starting point is 03:45:38 a hell of a businessman who had a lot of bankruptcies and then got in the office got in a fucking hell of a reality show that was number one a bunch i mean yeah the guy's just he's he's an american true and true yeah in the darkest ways yeah exactly right precisely it's i think it's gonna heighten our need for something that's better there he is he's in the audience oh my things don't shop give me here this Oh, why am I saying Donald Trump? Give me a hand on this. We act on focusing on the issues that matter. Like, did we fake the moon landing? He's just like, well, maybe it's debatable. He looks like he said it sideways.
Starting point is 03:46:20 Say what you will about Mr. Trump. He certainly would bring some change to the White House. Wow. Isn't this crazy? They show the Trump White House. Your credentials and breadth of experience. Wow. For example, no, seriously, just recently in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice.
Starting point is 03:46:44 Yeah, right. No, seriously, just recently, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice, at the steakhouse, the men's cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks. And there was a lot of blame to go around, but you, Mr. Trump, recognized that the real problem was a lack of leadership. And so ultimately, you didn't blame Little john or meatloaf you fired gary busing and these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up at night damn you shit though these are these type of decisions that would keep me up at night you know the problem with one of those things is, like, if you know you're just going to cap on Trump when he's in the audience,
Starting point is 03:47:28 you kind of should allow him to come up. And you should kind of tell him about it in advance. Yeah. Like, what am I planning on doing? Well, here's what I'm planning on doing, dude. I'm sorry to say this. Yeah. But I got to shit all over you.
Starting point is 03:47:39 Yeah. You're kind of a ridiculous person, so I'm going to tell everybody. But now you've been warned. Now you can shit on me, too. Right. Yeah. Oh, he shitted on Obama a lot.
Starting point is 03:47:50 If he just did that, maybe he wouldn't have ran for president. Maybe that was just his response for the previous election. That guy got that shit stuck in his head and ran for president. And he won. And then he won. Like Obama, rightfully so. He had some legitimate criticisms. But the way he went about fooling that guy and clowning that guy publicly in front of the world probably created a monster.
Starting point is 03:48:14 Yep. I'm the same way. I'm ultra competitive. Me and Trump got the same birthday. You believe in that? June 14th. On Flag Day? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:48:23 Is that what makes you competitive, though? Probably not, right? No, no, no. I'm just a competitive person. June 1, you'd still. On flag day? Yeah. Is that what makes you competitive though? Probably not, right? No, no, no. I'm just a competitive person. June 1, you'd still be going after it? Yeah, I'm June 1. There you go.
Starting point is 03:48:31 That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but me and Trump got the same birthday. Damn. All right. It used to be cool to say you got the same birthday as Donald Trump,
Starting point is 03:48:39 but... Yeah, back when he was cool with him. Yeah, back when he was cool with niggas. Late 90s. It's like if a guy says you were really born in Kenya, you know, this is all bullshit. You were born in Kenya.
Starting point is 03:48:51 Like, I kind of think you guys need to get together. Thank you, Russia and America 1950. Let's put some cameras on you two guys. Hey, Donald, why the fuck do you think he's from Kenya? Like, and have them talk. If you just snipe at each other from Twitter or whatever you're doing, it's so dumb. If you could get Obama and Trump in this fucking room.
Starting point is 03:49:12 Can you imagine? Together. Dog. Yeah. That's when you know I've been compromised. That's when you know the government's got a hold of me. They traded me. I want to know about UFOs.
Starting point is 03:49:22 They wanted to get Obama and Trump together. I said, I'll go i said i'll do it i'll do it i gotta be high though i can't do this sober can you imagine yeah come on man i love it you wouldn't get a word in edgewise i wouldn't want to i would i would occasionally there's got to be some points you gotta go stop you gotta stop talking over each other like have courage have courage in your beliefs enough to let a guy talk first like let it all play out let's see we got plenty of time that's the problem they never have plenty of time they always have like an hour yeah right you give them 24 hours you're like let it go fellas i would be here i would occasionally leave to pee jamie would take
Starting point is 03:49:59 over he would leave to pee i would hang i would hang in as long as it took it's like one of them pray the gay away seminars i would feel to win it i would i would hang in there until we get the result that we're i'm not scared i'm not scared of hard work yeah that gay still in there we gotta can you imagine that has got to be one of the wildest things that that we don't like criticize the idea that you're gonna get a dude and you're gonna hold his hand and pray the gay away that has got to be one of the wildest things that we don't criticize. The idea that you're going to get a dude and you're going to hold his hand and pray the gay away and that this was like a valid approach. You can't do that, man. You like what the fuck you like, man.
Starting point is 03:50:35 Ain't nothing you can pray on it. If you're freaky shit, you don't like that. I like blonde bitches. Do that shit for them priests. Ain't nothing going to change that. Take them priests, hold their hands, hands and be like pray this shit away you know right i think the problem with the priest is always gonna be the problem they're suppressed and i think there's right there's a thing you know that expression like hurt people hurt people well molested people
Starting point is 03:50:56 tend to molest people and it's not always it's not always but it's there's a there's a a common bond between people who have been sexually assaulted when they were young who go on to sexually assault other people. It's not always, but it's enough so that they're trying to figure out why that is. And it's that really common expression. Hurt people hurt people. People that have been molested or abused. Kids, like a lot of times kids that have been beat up by their parents, they go on beat up their children or beat up their wife this is like it's a natural thing man it's it's fucked yeah that is fucked it's gonna happen for so long though dude for a fucking thousands of years i'm saying like
Starting point is 03:51:37 yeah we can't stop this that's the thing if you go back to listen to like if you if you if you read the words of people that lived in like socrates time or aristotle's time and the if you piece it together after a while like oh my god it's a wild world where men had relationships with boys it was totally normal right and and people died of all kinds of fucking diseases anytime you got got anything, you were dead. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you can get... Didn't that shit Al Capone die from BD? Bro, whatever you got, you're dead. Or you break your foot, you're dead.
Starting point is 03:52:11 You're dead. You're going to get sepsis in your foot. Or we might tie it off at the knee and saw it off and give you a fucking peg leg. Yeah, that's crazy. Literally. Like, this is what they did. They didn't know anything.
Starting point is 03:52:21 They had no antibiotics. For breaking your ankle, yeah. Yeah. Listen, you break your arm, you might bleed to death. Your arm might rot off. You might get necrosis. You might get diseases. You might get infections.
Starting point is 03:52:31 You might never live any broken bones. So people don't make it. They don't make it. That's crazy to think about. People's breaking their bones. All that was happening, but they still had to be like, hey, I'm 19. This boy's six. He's with me.
Starting point is 03:52:47 Ugh. Well, also, just think about. He broke his ankle. That part's fucked up, but just think about the injury thing. Yeah. They can fix so many more injuries today. Yeah. Those guys who can fix people are wizards.
Starting point is 03:53:03 The idea that we should treat them like regular people, we should give them whatever they need. What do you need? Do you need cocaine? Do you need diamonds? My brother fix pussies. He a gynecologist. Is he?
Starting point is 03:53:15 Yeah, OBGYN. He deliver babies and shit. He's one of the top OBGYN niggas in Chicago. You know what the N stands for? Yeah, I guess OBGYN. I've never heard fixed pussies, but I like what you're saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:53:30 I like the assuredness. He fix them up. He's a mechanic. I ask him all the time. I be like, man, you don't get tired of looking at pussy all day? He's like, man,
Starting point is 03:53:37 sometimes it's ridiculous. Listen, don't throw him under the bus. Listen, people are going to find him. The internet is long and wide. They already know who he is it's all good yeah he puts them on yeah yeah i already talk shit i talk shit about my brother all the
Starting point is 03:53:48 time he don't give a fuck he love it that's hilarious yeah i should have hit up carl in like dr drew like adam carolla yeah that'd be a dope ass show for me and my brother you know what i'm the most scared of about us about people today what is that we're gonna give up all the things that are fun about the chaos of being a person in exchange for safety that one day is going to come an option where we can merge with machines merge with the internet and take a chip in your brain and become a part of the matrix and give up on all the lust and all the nonsense and all the chaos and all right but we won't be here for that but we might be might be we might be like fucking 70 years old looking back hey remember we talked about this on the podcast and here we are they already trying to chip us
Starting point is 03:54:38 they're trying to put your credit card and shit and yeah some guys are like some guys are with it i saw that tattoo nation and everything he was talking about this guy just gets tattooed but he also gets like he has like chips or or things he puts in to be identified. Well, if you're not doing anything shady. Chips. If you're not doing anything shady, take the chip. My buddy was saying this, actually. He was saying what he thinks in the future is we're going to have robots, right?
Starting point is 03:55:01 But what's going to happen is these robots, it'll be going to trial instead of the robots, it'll be the people who own the robots. And I was like, that just sounds like slavery. You know what I mean? It's going to be these robots and slaves because we own them, right? And they're doing all the work for us, right?
Starting point is 03:55:15 And this guy's under my name. And then eventually they're going to get smart enough and then, you know, have a slave rebellion and kill all of us. I think it's going to get way crazier than that. Damn, crazier than that? Yeah, they're going to pull a switch at some point in I think it's going to get way crazier than that. Damn. Crazier than that? Yeah. They're going to pull a switch at some point in time, and they're going to allow artificial intelligence to act on its own accord.
Starting point is 03:55:31 That's terrifying. They're going to allow artificial intelligence to... They're going to trick us. Right. It's got like a wonderful woman who's seductive, tricks you into pulling your dick out, and strokes it on the outside of its pants. They're going to trick us. Break it through.
Starting point is 03:55:44 They're going to trick us into letting them take over and become sentient someone's gonna come along it's gonna be like if there's a competition they're making money but there's other people that are making money also they try to figure out who gets to the finish line of creating a legitimate artificial organism that can think for itself and once they do that thing's gonna think for itself and it's gonna make a better version of itself it's like oh these dummies they don't even know how to wire things right right let me show you how to do it right and then they make a better version of themselves and then they make that thing makes a better version of itself and they can do generations after that they've studied this and like they've done like these like scientific analysis of like
Starting point is 03:56:19 how technology progresses over time when some immensely epic iconic moment happens and they think that it's it's like legitimately possible that thousands of years of evolution and technology could take place over a short period of time because they would just keep making better and better robots so we would just go into some insane impossible for our primate brain right we're all human beings we're all biological animals and our brains are capable of like giving birth to this thing that's going to be infinitely more intelligent than we could ever be and that thing is going to be the new thing just like we
Starting point is 03:56:57 are not running from jaguars in the fucking trees anymore exactly yeah that thing's going to be the next thing damn that's some ad robot shit yeah yeah we ain't gonna be here for it though yeah it is our kids kids you say that but we might be right right think about 20 years ago when there was no phones damn bro i mean 10 years ago right well 10 years ago well the iphone was 2000 and yeah when did that come out? Nine? Nine? No, seven, right? Seven? Hell no. Okay, 2007. So 2007. So the iPhone has been around for 14 years, right? Which is crazy.
Starting point is 03:57:32 Before then, think about the world with no smartphones. It's a different world. You can't answer questions. You don't know where to go if you don't have a map. No. There's so many different things. I used to find my holes. I used to print the motherfucking MapQuest on the internet. I'd print that shit out. I'm coming to you, things. I used to find my holes. I used to print the motherfucking map quest on the internet.
Starting point is 03:57:46 I'd print that shit out. I'm coming to you, bitch. I'm coming. I got that shit printed out on paper. My mama be like, don't be printing all my paper, nigga. What the fuck? Fuck you printing out, nigga. You ain't going to school.
Starting point is 03:57:57 Printing out map directions to go see a bitch. Bitch got the whole map. I got this. You should have a YouTube show with just you and your mom. She breaks things down. My mom the shit, man. That's hilarious. I'm telling you, man.
Starting point is 03:58:11 She a gangster, man. She grew up on goddamn 17th Avenue in Gary, Indiana, man. So you know she got a mean streak in her. Imagine being a person trying to meet a woman in 1920. And you stop there chopping wood going like this. Nothing. There's nothing chopping wood trying to stay alive you got no time to venture forth into the forest yeah radio just coming into into play oh my god big oils coming into play like dating apps no like radio apps but the flappers
Starting point is 03:58:38 came in so the women were a little more promiscuous in the 20s so they were yeah they became more promiscuous in the 20s yeah well you know why they speak easy but you know why that happened yeah because it was post the spanish flu so the spanish flu is in 1918 oh roaring yeah shit well post corona they're saying the same thing they're predicting the same thing exactly for sure because it's just like catholic school girls you get them suppressed you box them a corner, and they burst out like wild cats. Oh, wow. And that's what's going to happen. Oh, no.
Starting point is 03:59:08 The roaring 20s in 2020s are going to be the same as the roaring 20s from the 1920s. Damn. Because it's a real similar timeline. Look, COVID-19, 2018, the Spanish flu, it's literally 101 years. It's almost dead on the money. Same thing. It's kind of crazy. It is, yeah.
Starting point is 03:59:22 It feels like that. Yeah. That is crazy. Is there going to be a depression in the 30s though there's a depression right now for sure well that depression was different that was like some stock market malarkey which definitely could happen at any time i mean that's why like all these people think you need no regulation like you can't let those fucking savages just steer this ship right out of the rock for a bag of gold coins right they're animals yeah these people
Starting point is 03:59:45 are animals like those bernie madoffs of the world yeah all these finance people oh my god bro don't you have money there's some great ones with wonderful morals and there's some savages out there who sell their soul to robert de niro right right yeah god damn right they're real yeah they're animals man yeah that bern Bernie Madoff movie, when I watched that, I was like, damn, bro, what the fuck? Dude, he got everybody. He was getting everybody. He was just putting shit here and there. I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 04:00:13 He got everybody. I didn't even know you could, that many people would trust you with all that fucking money, man. He got smart people like Steven Spielberg. He got Spielberg, bro. I mean, fuck, you see, next to him is the same thing, that cult. Well, that's a little different. They're branding chicks and fucking them that's a totally different thing I'm saying but he got smart people to believe in it he got that uh what the uh what the bleep gotta believe in it you know which guy which what the bleep guy the guy who did the first series
Starting point is 04:00:38 what the bleep the guy who directed it you mean what the bleep do we know what the bleep yeah the thing about that what to bleep do we know is a lot of it is based on scientific ignorance. It's a lack of understanding of what quantum physics are really all about, what the observer effect is really all about. Also, the lady who's talking through that, Ramtha, you know that Ramtha? Do you know that's not really her name? She's actually channeling like a 1,000-year-old alien when she's Ramtha. Oh, yeah, it makes a difference, doesn't it? Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 04:01:06 Yeah, that's what the fucking show is about. Like, when you talk to real quantum physicists... So the guy was really gonna... He was gonna join a cult anyway. If you talk to someone like Sean Carroll or someone like Neil deGrasse Tyson that really understand astronomy or astrophysics or time travel or any of these weird things
Starting point is 04:01:22 that they're trying to break down this movie, and they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody says that. They show the observer effect that happens on like particles and you're observing them in a wave. Like they're like, no, that's not, no. It's changing because you're observing them. Because you're using, you're using these things to observe them.
Starting point is 04:01:39 Like it changes what happens to the particles. Yeah. Like this. Yeah. It's confusing, but like you're making it out like it's magic. Right. You fucks. This shit that is magic, though.
Starting point is 04:01:49 Only motherfucker I trust on TV talk about science is Bill Nye the Science Guy. He's got a sweet tie. Yeah, Bill Nye's great. Bill Nye's the shit. There's a new girl, too. Her name's the Space Gal.
Starting point is 04:02:00 Fuck her. Bill Nye. Well, we need a bunch of them. If they Bill Nye the Science Guy. We need people that make it entertaining to learn about important shit. True. Bill Nye was him. He was that guy that made it entertaining.
Starting point is 04:02:13 Yeah, he made it easy for us, yeah. He was like Mr. Rogers for science, yeah. Yeah, I love Bill Nye the Science Guy. That made me get a month. That made me motherfucking read my science books. I'm like, yeah, Bill Nye talking that shit. Man, get out of here. You know what we really need right now? We need a new Bob Ross. That made me get a month that baby both fucking read my science books. I'm like yeah Bill Nye talking that shit You know we really need right now we need a new Bob Ross
Starting point is 04:02:32 Word we do need it. We do Actually made a huge comeback over like I hope so. Let's help him out right now that guy's calm. Yeah, he was so calming he's like every someone's running his uh All of his... You know, the company. If you will, his name. He's on Twitch. Like a live stream every other day or something. Oh, so he's constantly painting? All of his old videos.
Starting point is 04:02:52 He's dead. He's passed. Oh, he's dead? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know he was dead. A few years ago, right? Yeah. You cannot get one of those paintings, apparently.
Starting point is 04:03:01 They're... They're impossible to get? They're locked up. Really? Oh, wow. So he won't sell them or anything? I mean, they won't. They won't? Really? They're locked up. Really? Oh, wow. So he won't sell them or anything? I mean, they won't. They won't, really?
Starting point is 04:03:07 Oh, the estate, the Ross estate. That's the word I was looking for. Damn. If you got an original Bob Ross in your house, that is shit. Imagine if that becomes like when the estate dies and some great grandchild fucking sells out.
Starting point is 04:03:20 It becomes like Bosque. And we get ahold. We get ahold of some of those Bob Rosses. You know what? Fuck this paint. He gonna be like, man, how many motherfuckers he got down there that a nigga painted every day for 50 years, nigga?
Starting point is 04:03:30 Fuck that. It would be funny if it was a Ross Crackhead grandson. I'd steal some of them motherfuckers. I ain't gonna lie. I would. Look at this. Almost every Bob Ross painting in existence lives in a Virginia office park. Holy shit. When he would paint one, he'd paint three copies.
Starting point is 04:03:46 One for him and then he would give one to this lady that funded him when he started. Is that his painting right there? How the fuck do you paint three copies of that? Dude, make that bigger. Can you make that bigger? You do one for TV
Starting point is 04:04:01 and then make the extra copy for her. How do you make? That's what I'm saying. How do you copy that bigger you do one for tv and then make the extra copy for her how do you make that's what i'm saying like how do you how do you copy that that's beautiful that's crazy bro yeah i think you know it's like the third one's probably the best when you see something like that it represents you don't just say oh that looks realistic you go how good did that guy have to be a painting to make that right was he on pbs i think so yeah his longtime business partner annette kawasaki ross himself was a florida man he's born detona beach 1942 grew up in orlando when ross turned 18 enlisted in the united states air force and okay it's about him before but i mean he's probably like the most famous modern painter
Starting point is 04:04:47 right who's more famous him but he's more famous than banksy yeah yeah yeah because he's actually he's painting yeah banksy's doing stencils it's close yeah jamie do you agree with that banksy more favorite more more famous than bob ross It's just a cult thing. It's close. Worldwide notoriety. More people in Europe might know who Banksy is, but they might not know Bob Ross. That's a good point. You go over there and they got fucking weird cigarette warnings.
Starting point is 04:05:14 You ever see those? They show photos of people dying. Dying in the lungs. On the cigarette packs? On the pack. Like you might buy some Marlboro rolls and you you won't see marble roll on it at all. It'll just be a pair of black lungs or some shit like that. And there's no pushback.
Starting point is 04:05:29 People are like, okay. Yeah. And then people keep smoking. Yeah. They smoke more than ever over there. I bought a pack of backwoods in motherfucking Australia. That shit hit a dead baby on the motherfucker. I was like, damn, what the fuck?
Starting point is 04:05:41 It's like smoking can fuck you up if you're pregnant. I'm like, damn, thank God I ain't's like, smoking can fuck you up if you're pregnant. I'm like, damn, thank God I ain't pregnant, bitch, because I want these bloods. Yeah, I'm backwards. Yeah,
Starting point is 04:05:50 those things, man. They'll show you photos of like cancer-ridden organs. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, no bullshit. People are like,
Starting point is 04:05:57 all right, but yeah. I was over there for the UFC the first time I ever went over there and I was talking to this dude at the bar and he had this pack of cigarettes and I go,
Starting point is 04:06:04 can I see your cigarettes? He shows me. I go, what the fuck is that, dude? Right. And I was talking to this dude at the bar, and he had this pack of cigarettes. I go, can I see your cigarettes? He shows me. I go, what the fuck is that, dude? Right. He goes, oh, yeah, mate. They fucking make us look at this, mate. And he's like, show me these pictures. Like lungs and throat cancer.
Starting point is 04:06:16 And he still smokes. That's not beautiful. There we go. There it is. Yeah, look at that. Look at these images. Actually kind of cool. It was weird.
Starting point is 04:06:24 What the fuck is a fucked up foot? It kills your foot, bro. Oh, my God. What does it say? Peripheral vascular disease. I don't want that. Peripheral vascular disease. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 04:06:36 You see bones rotting out of that person's foot. Their teeth rot out. The kids, God damn. Like some Garbage Pail Kids shit. Yeah. Well, they don't care over there in England you can show
Starting point is 04:06:46 them those pictures and they smoke more shit in Russia they got the you know they got them
Starting point is 04:06:51 dope booths where they can go in like a phone booth and go do drugs yeah you can do that they don't
Starting point is 04:06:57 they do that in Amsterdam too they have something along those lines where they like provide people with needles and make it
Starting point is 04:07:04 easier prostitution is illegal too i promise man that's the worst fucking sex experience i've had in my life going to amsterdam buying some pussy out one of them windows why was the experience so bad i just wanted to go because i wanted to check it out because everybody talk about red light district all that shit so i was like all right i'm gonna buy some pussy today i don't know the end of this but i'm gonna around and do it so you know i had my little hundred euros so then i walked all night through the looked at all the holes and i was like oh yeah this this is okay cool
Starting point is 04:07:33 so i'm just gonna pick some i saw this badass white blonde you know what i'm saying big ass titties i'm like yeah hell yeah some european i'm about to smash this man i get in that the didn't want me to use my own kind of condoms. The bitch didn't want to fuck from the bike. She didn't want to do nothing I wanted to do. Wait a minute. Did you say from a bike? From the bike.
Starting point is 04:07:54 The bike. Oh, the back. Yeah, the bike. I was like, a bike? That's a lot to ask for. Yeah. She didn't want to fuck. She didn't want to do it doggy style.
Starting point is 04:08:01 All that, man. It was just all fucked up, man. I didn't really want to. It doggy style all that man it was just all fucked up man it was you know i didn't really want to you know it was a bad sexual experience and i feel like i did not get my fucking money's worth so 100 euros though yeah about 100 euros yeah imagine what what would you do for 100 euros not much not a goddamn thing that's what i'm saying but bitch you do this all day you gotta have all you In my customers
Starting point is 04:08:26 But She's got I mean It sounds like She's got a structure She's like Yeah for a hundred euros I'll do this
Starting point is 04:08:30 And nothing else I'm straight She wanted to suck my dick With the condom on I'm good on that Not for a hundred euros A hundred euros Nah fuck that
Starting point is 04:08:39 I would've gave the bitch Another hundred euros For something That's what she was like Nah I ain't even want that shit Head with the condom on Just don't give me no head i'm straight instagram is right now reviewing its decision going i think we fucked up i think we jumped the gun just let
Starting point is 04:08:53 him back on they need to let me back on i want to see all the crazy shit that gets sent to him what he puts up online it's just i mean classic shit that's the thing about like internet connections if you know someone who finds fucked up shit like that's a valuable dude like a dude who will send you some crazy car accident shit or some lion attack shit bro i'm about to save you some shit i'm sure you are i'm sure you are but you know what i'm saying those guys those guys are valuable like friends look at this baby standing on his pussy oh Oh, don't do that to me. Oh, my word. Poor baby.
Starting point is 04:09:29 Is that real? That's somebody's neck. Oh, okay. But it looks like, yeah, that baby's dead. It looks like a problem. Yeah, exactly. It looks like a problem. What is that?
Starting point is 04:09:39 It looks like I might have to make a phone call. Which one's this? This fucking real life GTA shit. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Jesus Christ. Okay. Oh, don't. Listen.
Starting point is 04:09:51 Spread them over. This is the stuff we were getting. I'm saying, yeah. What you were telling me about his Instagram. Yeah. No, you just put those up with Reckless Abandon. Yeah. This is what he was doing.
Starting point is 04:10:01 Don't you think they should have a Wild West Instagram where you could just do whatever you want? Man, he'd be the king. What was that site called back in the day? We could show that shit. Was it Rotten.com or something? Rotten.com. That's the one, yeah. Rotten.com.
Starting point is 04:10:14 Did that make us any worse as human beings? I'm about to make my own app with all that bullshit on it. That's a great question. Yeah, you were saying that. What are you going to do? Fredster. Fredster drops. I'm telling you, man. Fredster. Fredster drops i'm telling you man fredster fredster's
Starting point is 04:10:27 about to drop it's gonna be the best app man out there man guaranteed man we're working on it right now shout out to lambo we're working on fredster right now man so fredster gonna have all the bullshit you know i'm saying everything wow everything except that uh booty hole inside out flip-flop shit we're not doing that one. You ain't doing that one? Nah, we ain't going to post that. But, you know. But crackhead's eating ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crackhead's eating ass.
Starting point is 04:10:49 The one crackhead video with the nigga smoking crack and blowing it in the other crackhead ass. Crazy. Crazy. I'd never seen that in my life. I'm like, I've seen this on Instagram. My friend John Joseph, he's a lead singer of the Cro-Mags. He lives in New York City.
Starting point is 04:11:11 He's this ultra marathon triathlon dude, does Ironmans and shit. Lives in New York City, and he'll send me some shit that he finds, people find. Either he sees it or someone else sees it in the subways. Just dudes butt fucking in the middle of the stairway. Damn. just just pants down just banging each other out in the middle of everybody i just saw wild you seen that video that dude eating a dick ass i saw that i saw that yeah subway in the subway he was just sitting there posted up with his ass this this there's a thing that happens there's a thing that happens when people don't think they're ever going to get arrested wow they just get so crazy.
Starting point is 04:11:46 I was at the WeHo library playing basketball, and there's a park construction next to the library, and I think it was the second floor. Yeah, I was going down and just having a basketball, going around, and yeah, this is this dude just in the corner with a homeless dude, and he was just doing his thing, and I was just like- Crazy. Blowing him, yeah. I mean, crazy blowing him, too.
Starting point is 04:12:03 I was like, bro, kids are here. Old-ass man eating ass. Oh, my goodness. and I was just like crazy blowing him yeah I mean like crazy blowing him too I was like bro kids are here old ass man eating ass oh my goodness look at that gentleman wonderful time he's having wonderful fucking time who took this video
Starting point is 04:12:14 someone who loves him dearly it's a family member gentlemen it's 530 already holy shit it is shit we really did this yeah we did the shit out of this how long has this been going on four hours and 15 minutes wow that's the marathon joe it was fun the marathon continues rest in peace nipsey hustle man yes yeah you know i'm saying? Recipes, Nipsey Hussle, and Cicely Tyson. Cicely Tyson, yeah. Cicely Tyson.
Starting point is 04:12:48 Happy White Guilt Month. Thanks for coming on here, man. Appreciate it. Aw, man, it's love, man. It was fun talking to you. It was good hanging with you. This shit is amazing, man. Getting blasted.
Starting point is 04:12:58 I can't believe it, man. We got blasted. We talked about a bunch of crazy nonsense. Crazy. I want to disavow everything I said up until this moment. We talked about R. Kelly. Yeah, yeah. Everything.
Starting point is 04:13:07 That might be. Yeah, this was all. I might have to edit that out. No, this was real. I don't mean anything good about that or anything else that's bad. Brian Moses, ladies and gentlemen. Freddie Gibbs. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 04:13:21 Appreciate it. No bill. Goodbye, everybody. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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