The Joe Rogan Experience - #1648 - Reggie Watts

Episode Date: May 8, 2021

Reggie Watts is a comedian, actor, and musician who currently leads the house band for "The Late, Late Show with James Corden." Catch him live as part of HiFi Labs' virtual Friend Fest, which begins streaming on Friendfe.st May 14 at 7 PM EDT.

the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day you're just staring at rolling shooting stars of course black holes imagine what a black hole sounds like what do you think it sounds like i think didn't someone uh they they simulated it or something some physics physicists assimilated it really yeah it or something? Some physicists simulated it or something? Really? Yeah, it does make a sound. That's the best part of Interstellar. I mean, my favorite part of it.

Oh, man. Chinese Theater, it was so loud and fucking awesome. Oh, you want to see it there? I want to see it again there so bad. IMAX is the place to see it, right? It was the IMAX Theater he made it at. He was testing it there to make sure it was two-part. That's a bold movie, man.

Very bold movie. Oh, yeah. Super sick, too. You just think of all the elements that people have to follow along, especially the ending. Spoiler alert. Oh, yeah. At the end when he's looking at himself through, like, what is happening there? You take a kid there. He's like, Dad, what is going on here?

It's like, I don't know, man. We're in the same spot. I can't really explain it, son. We'll talk about it later. We're in the same spot. We'll get it on DVD. Does it have the sound of it? That robot was so dope.

It's just translating as great movie sound, but it's just a rocket. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, this isn't working. Yeah. I would imagine without the rocket, it sounds like stars getting smushed. Yeah, it's just like... I think they were saying it was like a... You know, that type of a thing.

Just the fact that that's a real thing, that in the center of every galaxy is this giant mass that's eating stars. Star eaters. Just sucking them into who knows what on the other end. You know, it's great. I love reading about it. I mean, I haven't read about black holes in a really long time since I think a Michio Kaku book that I had. But that was a while, a while ago. But, I mean, it's so fascinating that weird like

you know that point it's like the event horizon it's like theoretically it wouldn't work like this but theoretically there's just like a membrane and you're just close close you're fine you're fine you're fine you just get sucked in and just stretched and broken just crushed bits and then i guess just reconstituted as pure energy on the other side. Yeah, definitely doesn't just get destroyed It gets redistributed. They're redistributors We're just so concerned about the finite life that we live like we're so concerned of preserving this very fragile Existence that the idea of getting reconstituted into pure energy in another dimension is like horrific But that's why we're here.

We're here, right? We're here because a star exploded. Yeah, we're made of stars. What's that old song? We are stardust, we are golden, we are billion year old common. Is that from the 60s? And we got to get ourselves back to the gods.

It's like the Strawberry Alarm Clock or something. Joni Mitchell did a version of it, but I don't think she was the original. Maybe she was the original. Maybe she wrote it. I don't know. Joni Mitchell, artist. Message to Love. Crosby. Oh, Crosby stills in that.

When you were singing it, the way you were singing it. That's Crosby. Can we give us a little bit before we get in trouble? Give me a little taste. Give me a little taste. Give us 2.6 seconds. Give me a little taste of like 1970s acid. 1970s acid and marijuana grown in that Mendocino range where that Hulu series Sasquatch was made. Yeah.

There it is. There it is. Hulu series. Sasquatch was made. Yeah. There it is. I can't hear it. He was walking on the road. Oh. Yeah. I haven't heard this. You never heard this? No.

Oh, my goodness. This is classic. I got to get into them. Oh, Yaskar. Keep it going. Fuck it. If we get pulled, we get pulled. Let's test Spotify's algorithms out.

It's like the Borg, man. We are being called And we've got to get ourselves back to the dark That's gorgeous. That's pretty fucking good, man. Especially when you're high. There's something about being high. That old music just resonates, man. There's some like Allman Brothers songs that are different when you're high. You listen to them when you're high,

like Midnight Rider. I don't know if I know. You don't know Midnight Rider? I'm terrible at it. How dare you? I apologize. I'll see it. You're a musician, Reggie.

You're a musician. I know. I'm supposed to know all music. This is outrageous. I'm sorry. Your mind is filled with electronica. I know. I know. zone is like so very specific and very surprising to people, but I love it Well, that's all that matters man of course of course, but I mean I love you know

I was my philosophy on music when they're like what kind of music you listen to okay? Like I'm like anything that's good Mmm, that's always my yeah, could be anything Yeah, man, it's good. It's good. I mean, it's all subjective What were you gonna tell me there was a lady you gonna is good. I mean, it's all subjective. What were you going to tell me? There was a lady you were going to tell me. I stopped you. I said, I'll save it for the podcast. Oh, yeah, yeah, right.

Yeah, my friend Kirsten Joy Weiss, she's a trick shooter. Like a pistol shooter? Yeah, pistol, rifle. And she lives in Cody, Wyoming, and she is amazing. Just a really cool independent thinker like she loves sci-fi but she sent me these I'll see if I can send you a video you can see she did like this I guess a shot that hasn't there she is look at this oh yeah she's she's leaning back for people to not listen she's got her shins down on the ground and leaning back behind them,

and she's shooting 30 yards behind her. Yeah. Backwards. Gun Pilates. She calls it gun Pilates? Was that this one? Was that the long shooting? Or is it long range trick shots that was called?

This is gun Pilates trick shot. Okay. There's a whole market for hot girls with guns. Do you know that? Like the hot girl gun world? Yeah, it's funny. But you know what? The interesting thing that's different about her,

she's almost like she's just a badass shooter that happens to be an attractive woman. Right. But she's like, she's the real deal. She was going to be on, uh, she trained in the Olympics, uh,

on the Olympic team. Um, and, uh, and I like her videos because she talks about, I mean, it's called the joy of shooting obviously, but,

but I mean, it's a play on her name, but, but she really does mean it. She's just talking about like, Hey, this is a cool exercise and kind of like a meditative exercise, like,

like shooting and target practice is meditative and the cool thing about her is she does everything herself every video that you see is just her

with a camera and a tripod and all her editing she's super DIY that's what I like about her that's cool she's sick and she's like

very philosophical very cool what are you saying Jamie? the video's playing on his phone oh I'm so sorry sheesh I am going to

stop that right now sorry Kirsten wherever you are she's badass it is true though videos playing on his phone oh i'm so sorry sheesh i am going to stop that right now sorry karestan wherever you are the um she's badass it is true though that shooting is like very meditative right oh completely yeah kidding i mean it's like any you know it's like a you know you're shooting a project whether you're shooting or it's a bow and arrow or it's a crossbow or it's a sling or you're throwing a ball like even darts. Oh man darts especially yeah darts Especially I mean just to try to get that arc right and you're like yeah You're like thinking not thinking muscle memory learning like the weirdness of like letting that thing go like you don't want to let it

You don't want to drop your hand down. You got to like release it at the exact right time like yes Yes, I know. It's I went axe throwing in great falls montana uh recently that sounds like a great falls montana activity are you kidding it's so great i went with my friend kelly he's he's awesome his family's cool i went with my mom i brought my mom your mom was axe throwing my mom no my mom was like 83 just like sitting in a chair drinking wine and it's just like three feet away from people throwing axes at the wall. I'm just like, oh, this is so awesome. Sipping wine while people hurl blades.

Yes. That's very funny. My friend Kelly was like, he's so ridiculously good at it. It was stupid. He'd like not look. He'd turn around and throw the ax behind his back and it would land on the target. He would take two axes and throw them simultaneously

and they would land. And he's not like and he's not like he's just a natural at it it's very strange he doesn't practice i mean he's been there a few times but he was already a natural the first time he went so like the people who work there just like hey are you on a league you know like that's actually he's like nah just do it for fun you know it's like a movie right right about axe throwing naturals are weird yeah like a natural in anything it's a strange thing when you see someone who's just really good at something right away.

It just makes sense. You know, it's like they just have this ability to like, oh yeah, like this. And you're like, wait, but I've been training for five years. They just see it and they just have it. Yeah, but it's annoying. It is annoying. If you're a person who's been like studying your whole life and some guy comes around, oh, you mean like this?

Yeah. Like. been like studying your whole life and some guy comes around oh you mean like this yeah and then you've got then you've got then you got problems bodies are not deal with it bodies are not fair you know they're not fair some people's bodies just work way better oh man i mean for me like i always had a good ear so like if i heard an accent if i heard uh you know olivia newton john on the radio whatever i could mimic them the her timbre and the and the texture and really really easily and so for me music came pretty i mean obviously the theory is the theory and that's something you have to learn but

i i had an ear so even if i didn't learn theory but i kept playing with musicians i would have been fine because i would have figured it out. When did you start learning music? Age five. Wow. That's a nice advantage. So you grew up with a musical mind. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I love, you know, my parents, you know, we were in Europe for a while because of the military, Air Force, and we moved around.

And so I was born in Stuttgart, and then we moved to, I think, like, Italy, ended up in Spain for two years, the final two years till age four. Then we moved to Great Falls, Montana to Malmstrom Air Force Base. But in that time, you know, I just love my parents love jazz. Ray Charles, you know, my mom listened to French, a lot of French or European folk music like Anna Muscari and Edith Piaf and things like that. So I was hearing that all the time. And I saw Ray Charles and I loved the way he moved and he had the sunglasses and playing piano. And so I used to sit at the edge of the table and pretend like I was Ray Charles and they

were like, oh, let's get him a toy piano. And they did. And then my mom was like, do you want to have lessons? I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like, you know, almost six, five. And I started studying classical piano, like private lessons. Is there anyone that's learned piano without lessons? Because I know people have learned guitar without lessons.

Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah? Yeah, it's just by ear. The piano actually is an easier instrument to learn by ear because it's a grid. It's just a grid. It's not like when you have a stringed instrument or you have like a fretless board, like a cello or a violin or something like that, right? It's like there's no fret, there's no marking, so you have to really know where to put your finger and you have to know the technique of bowing. There's a lot of complicated stuff. A piano, it's like, you know, note, right? And then you start to notice, oh, it's a pattern. It keeps repeating, but it just goes higher and higher or lower and lower.

Then you start to notice, oh, it's a pattern. It keeps repeating, but it just goes higher and higher or lower and lower. That's interesting. Does it feel more limited because it's just you're pressing buttons rather than the creativity that's involved in a musical instrument that has chords that you can manipulate? No, I would say that I think what's great about a piano is that, yes, you have the basic, these are chords and things like that, but you have dynamics. Then you have note combinations. And then if you really want to get crazy, like John Cage or whatever prepared pianos where they're putting screws in the string board. I forget what it's called, but the board where the strings are.

What do you mean? The sound board, I guess. So they would put a screw next to a string so that when you hit a note it would just vibrate against the metal and they would have certain keys prepared so they call it prepared piano. So John Cage wrote a bunch of prepared piano pieces where they'd modify the soundboard of the piano and then he would write music for it and he would play the music and certain notes would have metallic sounds and sometimes notes wouldn't be there a bunch of stuff So the piano is like it's a good basic instrument. That's a good foundation now when digital keyboards came out There are a lot of people like resisted the sound of digital keywords like our ma'am

I remember when jump when Eddie Van Halen huge deal right people were very upset Hugely upset like what the fuck is this you guys were running with the devil? Yeah, how did you get to this? when Eddie Van Halen, people were very upset, hugely upset. Like what the fuck is this? You guys were running with the devil. How did you get to this? But still a good song, man. Oh, it's an amazing song, but that's how things go, right?

It's like someone comes up, I mean, you know, essentially synthesizers, you know, that came from what, like the 50s or whatever, like oscillators, things that made, it's an all, all it is is just a sound going, and then you have another sound which collides with it, which creates texture, right? Because they're battling each other.

And you change the wavelength, the frequency, then multiply that and put it onto a keyboard. Now you've got a synthesizer, right? But then Buchla back in the day had his idea of synthesis was just like a strip of random sounds you could manipulate, just move up and down. And so there was kind of this battle between Buchla's philosophy,

which was a West Coast philosophy, and Moog's philosophy, which was an East Coast philosophy. But Moog was like, we're gonna make the interface a really easy to understand one, which is the keyboard, the piano keyboard. What I was gonna get to is like, did the current piano keyboards, like the current electrical keyboards, have they gotten to the place where they can actually recreate the sound

of a great piano? Really close. Really, really close. Could you tell the difference? It's hard because it depends on the context. If you're listening to it just naked and then you're running through tests, like the lowest note, a note in the middle of the keyboard and then the highest note, I think someone who plays piano, they might be able to tell. But now the sampling is so crazy.

They'll sample one note so many times and then they duplicate that all the way down the length of the keyboard. And when you hear, you can't really hear the difference, especially in a song. It just sounds like a real piano or it sounds like a real Rhodes. Like Nord makes the Nord Electro, which is what I usually use. It emulates electric pianos, Wurlitzers, and also pianos, and I guess organs as well. But it sounds so good, it almost sounds sometimes better.

Really? Sometimes, just because it's like, imagine the optimal version of a Rhodes, like Mark II or something like that, whatever, like a very popular Rhodes. That's a type piano? Yeah, so a Rhodes electric piano. It's what you heard the most in the 70s.

That and Wurlitzer. Wurlitzer sounds more plucky. It's like a you've heard it like oh you're making me yeah yeah that's a Wurlitzer so you've got that and then you got Rhodes which is more like um uh fly like an eagle all that stuff from the high stuff yeah so and the Rhodes is a little bit more versatile a Wurlitzer is very oh that's a Wurlitzer but uh you know all these pianos it's like imagine them at their peak condition because they're always they're mechanical right so it's

like there's always you have to send them to a tech to tune them up you know maybe the pickups aren't working right or maybe uh you know there's an element that's not functioning properly. So imagine the most optimal version of that instrument in just that stays constant. And that's kind of like what a Nord is. And I know there'll be people out there going like, there's no, you know, there's a difference. But in general, you know, keyboard players, I know they're very comfortable playing. Like my friend who is a Rhodes Hammond B3 clavinet dude. He loved the clavinets. And the clavinets kind of sounds like a

like Okay. Not the vocal part, but there's a keyboard and that's the world serve. Or not the world serve. It's the clavinet with a wah-wah pedal, which was very, very popular. But he played all of it. Rhodes, clavinet, Hamm wah-wah pedal, which was very, very popular. But he played all of it.

Rhodes, clavinet, Hammond B3. And it was insane to watch him drag this to all the gigs. He dragged a full Hammond B3. And we're carrying it like a sarcophagus out of this van and then into the gig, plus the cabinet, which is the Leslie, the rotating speaker. So it was huge. I mean, it was huge i mean it was huge and then he would put his clavinet on top of that and he had his roads and so every gig we had all those things but then the nord came out and he was like ah fuck it he just started playing the

nord because the nord sounded so good and that was in the early days and then it had everything it had it well kind of yes it does you can but you would still probably want to separate you'd get two you'd get one that's like like the stage, which is for piano sounds. And then there's one that's kind of more oriented to Rhodes. And then you have an HP series, which is semi-weighted. So it feels more like a Rhodes. So it's got a mechanical weighting as opposed to synthesizers, which feels like you're pressing a nothing. You could solo all over that thing with no resistance.

But the HP series is semi-weighted. And then you got the Hammond version, which has like stacks and drawbars on it. So it really goes. And then you can hook that into an actual Leslie cabinet. So they make smaller Leslie cabinets. So you have a small Leslie cabinet, a Nord organ simulator,

and you've got a Hammond B3. So what these simulators do, are they literally recording the sound of an actual piano? Mm-hmm. So it's not a sound that the thing makes. No. You're just pressing a play. Yes.

As far as I understand it, yeah, they're essentially, they're doing oversampling or they're sampling multiple, multiple times the instrument. It's like, think of it as like a super high-res scan of the instrument. And then it's all in like how it's projected through to the amplifier. That's correct. To make sure that the sound actually resembles a piano or recreates a piano.

Yeah, and a lot of it has to do with the interface, like how do the keys react? Is it similar to how the instrument reacts? And then they can build in all kinds of algorithms for that So how hard you're hitting it or if you hit it really hard does it have that bite like a Rhodes if you hit it? Softly, it's just like thing, but then if you hit it really hard it goes Kind of terrible there's manipulation mechanical manipulation.. Yes. Just like a real instrument. Yeah, and they put that in there.

And then, like, you know, I remember getting my first synth was a Roland W-30, which was technically the first workstation, which was, it was a synthesizer that had a sampler built into it. You could write on it. It had a 16-track, I think it was a 16-track sequencer, and was just like a regular synthesizer, but it had aftertouch. So if you press a sound and then you pressed a little harder, it would actually make another sound. And you could program it any way you wanted, right? So it can recreate pretty much any sound that you would in a regular musical instrument. But is real important?

Is real, doesn't matter because if you know that what you're doing is pressing play on this thing and it's recreating the sound of a piano rather than actually that little felt covered hammer hitting the string and creating that sound is that important that that actually takes place because there's implications to this kind of simulation of stuff that would apply to a lot of other things that make people uncomfortable like love like artificial love sure some robot lady yeah that is uh what we've done we've recorded all the sounds your lover could make you know and you know and if you spank her like maybe she'll like it maybe she won't you're like what what are we doing you know what i mean but i mean if we

could there's implications here right like we could get to artificial life and you could have a friend that's not really your friend who like sometimes he flakes on you yes but it's like what is this fucking weird program this guy's running? What's a human? I know. I mean, you know, taking it to that level. I mean, well, you know, instrument-wise,

there's people that argue, like, I have to have my, I mean, like, Regina Spector's not gonna show up at a gig playing, she's not gonna play, like, an electronic version of a piano. She's not gonna play

an electronic piano. She's gonna play a real piano. She's gonna play a real piano because she loves it. Yeah, Tori Amos. Like, they have to have their Bosendorfers or their Steinways or whatever. They need that instrument because that's how they create. They need the weight of it.

Because when you're behind a piano, I mean, the weight of it and seeing the lid up, if that's how you have your playing style. But if the lid's up and you can see the length of it. Is it a sound issue with the lid up or down? Yes, it is, yeah. What is the difference? They're made to project so that's why you'll see grand pianos at an angle facing like if you went to a classical performance or went to a uh yeah like a theater um you would see the piano and then the lid up it projects the sound outward to the audience and then i guess there's a microphone

that's near the piano that picks it up and you have to figure out where to put the microphone they'll do that and sometimes they'll do contact mics as well. Oh, like a guitar. Yeah, exactly. So it plugs right in. Yeah, they'll put it on the soundboard. So sometimes it'll be on the soundboard or a hybrid system

and so they can mix in between for amplification. But in traditional settings in a medium sized room, they would just let the piano project into the room naturally. There's a thing that we're hitting on here, though, right? With things being real or not real. And in musical instruments, that seems like a very, an applicable analogy.

Like, there's a thing that happens all the time now with musical instruments, where you can actually, I mean, you can recreate drums without any drums, right? Oh, easily. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, synthesizers were mimicking all kinds of instruments for a long time. Not very well, but early drum machines. Basically, it's all the same principle. It's a sound wave that's being generated and then collisions with a secondary oscillator or sometimes even more. And then you're changing properties of each of those and you can change like how long it plays

or if you press it once, does it keep holding if you keep holding it, or do you press it and keep holding it and it stops? You know, there's all these parameters, like a three-dimensional equation. You can shape things. So that's why you got like. That's all synthesized.

So like early organs organs when organs were popular back in the day in the 70s or whatever and you had your sheet music and your organ and it had the drum machine that sugi otis used you know uh or um uh slide the family stone notoriously used the the organ the organ modulate or module for drum sounds and built an entire track around it it's all synthesizers. It's crazy. Or the 808, you know, the famous Roland 808, which was like probably the most well-known drum machine in the planet.

It was just a synthesizer that only focused on making drum-like sounds that you could program. I remember that, obviously, there's a lot of people that have a lot of issues with a lot of these things, like other musicians, but the first rumblings I ever heard about it was drum machines. Yeah. Like people that did not like a fake drum, it hit in the background. Yeah. And they'd get mad.

Yeah. Oh, it's a fucking drum machine. Yes. Yes. Of course they're going to get mad. I mean, cause it like puts it, they, they perceive it as a threat to, um, you know, perhaps an entire career based on like being a drummer. Is it that or is it also that they are no longer

appreciating someone's skill? Like if you hear someone play, there's skill to it and you enjoy it, you enjoy like, oh, look at him go off. Like Bill Burr is really good at the drums and he fucking loves drummers. I love him. Loves to talk about drummers and love him loves to talk about Drummers and he'll send me clips of guys going off with drums

Yeah like people who are really good with drums like and if There's something like you're getting a per there's a piece of that person that's coming out through their playing Like a Travis Barker goes off on the drums like that's Travis Barker sure expressing himself Yeah, well, that's the cool thing about it there is no threat essentially well I mean I'm speaking going back to that threat kind of thing it's like there is no threat in that that person's going to be who they are and no one's going to replace a drummer I mean certainly I used to play sample drums on the keyboard live for hip-hop groups you know so'd just be, but I'm just playing it, but because it has, it's a drum kit sound

and it's oversampled or it's sampled so that each, however I hit it, if I hit it harder, the snare sounds a little bit harder hit, or if it's softer, it resonates a little bit more. I would get into the feel of it. So I was kind of like a keyboard drummer, right? But so there's that crossover element of it.

But a lot of drummers, you know, when you're listening to music and you listen to a drum, a beat, you're like, wow, that's a really well done. They just like rhythm. So it's not really about like, oh, you know, fuck those guys. You know, it's a drum machine. They could have just got a drummer. It's like people don't really think like that anymore. Now a lot of drummers program their own beats and because they just like rhythm but uh you know of course a player playing and you just can't there is no

substitution for that you know hearing people play and a lot of drummers started playing like drum machines like remember the end of erica badu or no the root song That whole thing that whole song it just starts cycling that melody and then you hear at the very end It's so tasteful the very very end It was when drum and bass was making it was kind of on the scene for a little while since 95 And you hear at the end, Questlove starts going . He's playing like drum and bass producers making drum and bass beats, so he's mimicking that.

And then there was like a bunch of cats in my own town on our jam nights that purposefully would set up a kit where it would have two or three snares, like this guy KJ Saka, monster drummer. Two or three different kits. So essentially he'd just rotate this way, and he'd have a different kit, different kit here, and a different kit there. So it would be...

So it would sound like sliced samples stuck together to make a beat just like they actually made the beats. So you get this call and response that happens. So you get like here's drum. So there's drum machines. Then there's sampled programming. And then you got drummers mimicking sampled programming and then sampled programmers mixing and hybridizing both of those approaches at the same time. So music is like there are no limits. And sampled programmers mixing and hybridizing both of those approaches at the same time. So music is like there are no limits.

And the confines or the constraints or introduction of new technology is more exciting to me as a creator. Well, you're a technology enthusiast, though, on top of being a musician. So that also applies. But it's like there's a difference in whether or not you're appreciating someone's artistic manipulation of musical instruments or whether you're just appreciating the final sound. Like for some people that don't like myself, I don't know anything about music, but I like sounds. I like, oh, that sounds cool. And if the sound comes out of an electronic simulator or synthesizer, it's cool. out of an electronic simulator or synthesizer. It's cool, but I think there's something that's really special about the way Gary Clark Jr. plays guitar.

You know what I mean? There's something about knowing that that's a dude with strings and he's making these wild noises. Oh man, yeah. I mean, do you know Thundercat? Yes. Okay, so Thundercat, genius, total genius. Good friend of mine. I just, I love him so much.

He plays the bass like he's playing three instruments at once, right? He's one of those guys that's, he's a hybrid guy. So he's taking like the idea of multi-track music and he's playing it live on his bass. So you hear him essentially like how a beatboxer will beatbox and you think you're hearing the whole song. Like let's say they're doing a cover or whatever, and it's just them. There's no effects.

They're just doing it. And you're like, oh, there's the melody line. There's the hook. Oh, and there's that drum beat. Oh, and there's the bass line. But they're doing this trick where some of their body is playing aspects of the rhythm. Melody-wise, they're figuring out ways to sneak breaths in, use an inhale as a rhythm sound, an exhale as a rhythm sound.

Then they're using their voice to put a melody in there, then sneaking a bass line in between the notes, fluctuating. And there's actually some notes missing, but your brain fills it in because it's a cover. You've heard it before. because it's a cover you've heard it before so it's a trick So they're essentially suggesting the things you already know by constantly referencing them but they're sewing it together one thing and and Thunder cast the same way he's like playing rhythms chords melodies at the same time all at the same time and it's just at the same time, all at the same time.

And it's just mind-blowing. I love watching musicians like that. Is this his own sort of style that he's created? Yeah, it's kind of like, imagine like, it's an evolution of jazz fusion. So Jaco Pastorius, for instance, like the innovator fretless electric bass guitar. And then you got like, I'm forgetting his name Clark his last name was Clark

but he was a giant hands amazing bass player or Pino Palladino you know like they're these monster bass players they have like

five string basses you know just like thick necked basses and they're playing what's a normal bass have? how many strings? four four strings yeah

and then you got five sometimes even six string basses really? they're just insane and so you got like people that are hybridizing It's like this is my instrument. I learned on a four string. I can like hold it down I can do this I can do that but I want more So they start figuring out ways to sneak in like oh now

I'm gonna make a sound if I hit the body of the instrument the pickups I put in a different pickup So when I hit the body of the instrument sounds like a drum sound So now I'm like hitting it, strumming, doing hammer-ons so I don't actually need to be strumming, and I'm hitting, doing melodies, still playing a melody on the fretboard, and then pulling, slapping, you know, it's crazy. But yes, but to your point,

musicianship to see it is amazing. But there are musicians, I'm trying to think of his name short-term memory gone he plays a grid uh which was like pretty popular like six or seven years ago there's just it's just a grid of lights and you assign sounds to it and he's playing both of them with his hand so he's playing samples and beats and rhythms that sounds like electronic tracks and when you're hearing it you're like oh he's just playing along to a track. It's like, no, he's doing everything at once. So it sounds like a full-on techno track. Huh.

But he's like... You know, but he's like... You know, it's insane to me. It's funny how people like to dismiss certain things as being, like, either not legitimate or not good enough like scratching like DJs like some DJs they they yeah they are sampling other people's music but the way they're putting it together is unique and it's really entertaining like

there's something cool about like you know Russell Peters is a legit DJ oh I didn't know you know that yeah Russell's legit and you know, Russell Peters is a legit DJ. Oh, I didn't know that. You didn't know that? Yeah, Russell's legit. And you talk to Russell about DJs that are not really DJs, they just press play on their laptop. He gets furious. He fucking hates it because he really spins records.

He's got the headphones, he's doing the whole thing. Yeah, he's mixing live. Exactly. Well, yeah, you know, I mean, essentially like, you know, people that I've been asked to DJ parties and I'm literally, it's what you call selectors. You can be a selector. Don't call yourself a DJ. You can call yourself a selector. You're just someone who's like, oh, this song would be nice next, you know, and then you press, the song ends, and then you press play for the next song. But isn't DJs a weird word, right? Because it used to be disc jockey, which is a guy on the radio that just played songs. Right, that's true. So that's the the original DJ had nothing to do with mixing not not not technically

I mean other than the records right so like back in the day like oh, I had a record player and the guys like oh Wait a minute What? And I'm like oh, but if I also use the volume fader so that so they are they were still a DJ technically But not the guys who were on like Wolfman Jack. Hey, everybody, it's Wolfman Jack. I ain't doing it here. They were just DJs.

Yeah, true. Like that was the original deal. Like the word DJ changed. Sure, 100%. 100%. No, but it's just how we develop things. Like, hey, Mr. DJ. It's just still a disc jockey.

The DJ saved my life from a broken heart. Yes. I mean, oh, God. I mean, it's so funny when you talk about artifice Still a disc jockey. The DJ saved my life from a broken heart. Yes. I mean, oh, God. I mean, it's so funny when you talk about artifice and, you know, the difference between, like, let's say, produced music versus that uses samples and drum machines and things like that. And then performed music, live music. It's interesting. The era that we're in now, I would say arguably for the last 10, 15 years, moved away from bands so much.

I mean, bands still exist in subculture for sure, and you'll see them like on alternative magazines, and there's tons of bands. There's bands still. But the stuff that hits the mainstream, that you get essentially like Nickelodeon, Disney artists that get installed as pop stars, right? Nothing against them. They're fine people or whatever, but the system is based off, the real stars of this system are producers. It's producer-based music. So the producer is kind of the star. The singer is kind

of the front person. So they're the face of it, right? So they represent the music. So in a way, it's kind of like corporate music. You know, it's like their tracks, like some of them can be like really great sounding, but then you look at the liner notes and 14 songwriters, you know, whether that's true or not, some people just want to be included

because they're in the room or whatever. But you get like credits of like 14 songwriters, seven songwriters, five songwriters. And then the producer is really the one that makes it all shine. It's not like Fleet songwriters, seven songwriters, five songwriters. And then the producer is really the one that makes it all shine. It's not like Fleetwood Mac, you know, sitting down and recording rumors. Right, right, right. Which is a whole different thing.

When you hear that, you're like, oh, my God, this is so beautiful and constructed in the musicianship and the production, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now you get tracks that, you know, they're cool. I mean, they're fine. They sound good in a club and all of that stuff. But in comparison, it's a complete paradigm shift. It's interesting. It's got to be so difficult to get a bunch of people that are really creative to agree how music comes together.

Like if you get five people that are in a band and you got your guitar player, your lead singer, the drummer, everybody's all together and they have to figure out how to agree right that's got to be so difficult because you have egos and different visions and different creativity and i think the drum solo should be longer well you know it depends on the situation right because sometimes there's a songwriter right there's one songwriter in the band or there's two songwriters in the band. The band's a five piece. So essentially in a healthy functioning group of musicians, whether it's collectively created or whether it's steered by one or two people, they all agree that they're in service of what the music wants to be.

So like when you hear something like, oh, that's dope. Can you play that again? Like, Oh yeah. Oh, that's dope. Hold on. I got an idea. It's, it's more like that. It's in a healthy situation. You're just, you're hearing something, you're inspired and you're adding something and then someone's like, okay, great. And like, yeah, but we need a, we need a bridge or something. It's like, well, I was kind of messing with these chords and like, uh, actually I like that, but can you change that third chord? Oh, like this?

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. That's kind of like in my best healthy experiences, that's how music is made because you're not like personally generating the music. You're listening to something that wants to exist in the world and you're kind of in service of it is generally how I like to look at it.

Some people will, yeah, their ego will, their, their eagle, their ego will, will come into it. in the world and you're kind of in service of it is generally how i like to look at it some people will yeah their ego will their their eagle their ego will come into it but uh their their ego will get into it and they start to confuse where they're getting their ideas from because they start to claim full responsibility for it i was thinking about how many great bands fall apart because of personality battles totally you know yeah especially when they started in a great place yeah you know when a band starts and like oh yeah we were having so much fun and then something happened we got more fame somebody brings their girlfriend into the recording session or their manager you know gets involved and starts dividing people and hey man you know

you're the real star you know that kind of shit yeah and then oh my god that's so common if that happens like i'm out of there that's not why i'm doing what i'm doing it's like you know i had this thing with uh uh louis back in the day louis ck like so i had i did this gig he wanted me to do his or he had me be like kind of a music coordinator for louis the the series and uh they said here's the, right? Can you duplicate all of these songs for my series? Because we don't want to pay the licensing fee for the actual track. So we want sound alikes, right, to his tracks that he wanted to be on the thing. So I was like, okay, cool. I got together like a sick dude, my friend Matt Kilmer, who's an amazing frame drummer, drum player, producer guy. He comes in, finds these really cool group of guys.

They come together. They're all improvisers. They're super fast. I have a list of music we're supposed to replicate. We just go through it. Matt's guiding them through it, MDing the whole thing. I'm just kind of coordinating. We get everything done.

And then at the end of it, we're like, cool, we got all the songs. They're like, yeah, we love it. And I'm like, now we just need to mix the songs. And then they're like, whoa, we're like, cool, we got all the songs. They're like, yeah, we love it. And I'm like, now we just need to mix the songs. And then they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No one say anything about mixing. I was like, are you kidding me? You know that mixing is an important part of music, right? You make the music.

You record the music. Now it needs to be mixed to sound really great. And then it needs to be mastered. And so they didn't get that, or so so they like didn't get that or they pretended like they didn't get it and then they were like saying well we're gonna have to take that out of your fee or whatever and so uh so i was like no what why why what's happening and then it just kept going back and forth with the producers about like yeah you know that's not cool you didn't tell us and then i was like you know what fuck it keep all my money use it for the recording session i'd suggest you keep

matt because he's the guy who really did all the heavy lifting and i'm out of here and i just left because there's no point i'm not in this industry i'm not in the entertainment industry because i i because it's all about money and all about opportunity. I just want to have a good time. You want to create. I want to create and I want to have a good time. And if someone starts to make a big deal about something. So they just didn't understand the process of making music.

That's what they said. So you think they did and they were being manipulative because they wanted to save money? I don't want to say either way necessarily, but it felt shady to me. It felt like maybe they didn't know. Then they figured out that that's true, but then they still stuck with their story. Reggie Watts, you had a Hollywood moment.

I had a Hollywood moment. I was like, whoa, this is that thing that, oh yeah, this happens or whatever. But the good thing is they kept the dude. Matt Kilmer did the music, MD'd the music for the next season. I don't know how many more seasons they did, but at least a second season. So that was good.

I knew he had a gig. He was really good at it. We know we we figured it out. But my point is, like, if it becomes if a process becomes too difficult and everyone's like being super tedious about it and you're talking about making something like a piece of art, I'm like, you know what? Let's just simplify it and like cut the thing that we're having a problem with, or if it's too much trouble, let's just not do it, because it's not fucking worth it. It's like, we're here to have a good time.

Yeah, well also you don't need it. You have a lot of things going on, like you could just walk away. Yeah, true, but I mean, arguably, just to keep it real, I mean, back in the day when I wasn't really making dough, you know, and I was like just gig to gig, barely making rent or whatever, if a project was too difficult, day when I wasn't really making dough you know and I was like just you know gig to gig making barely making rent or whatever if a project was like too difficult I just had to get out of there

it's just not it's not worth it to me like I would rather just like figure out like ah shit how am I gonna borrow money to make rent rather than like continue to like go to a rehearsal space where it feels shitty isn't that that's it's so interesting because like if it all comes together whether it's with comedy or with anything else it's some creative venture some sort of thing where you're just trying to make something it comes together and it feels great but then if you're doing that and then you got some situation like you got some executive that stepped in has decided to put their greasy little fingerprints all over everything and manipulate stuff and tweak things and tell you what you can and can't do and pull their dick out. And you're like, oh, no. What have we done?

We've gotten mixed up with commerce and nonsense and non-creative people. Yes. It's the number one problem with television shows. You have the creative people, the artists and the performers, and then they interact with the executives who are almost never creative and counter often to creativity. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Well, that's why if you have a producer that's willing to fight for the vision of a piece and you also set the criteria before you get into it, that's the important thing. But once you get going, man, people reveal their true selves. That's the problem.

Yeah, that's true. But even in that It's like I mean I've been really lucky. I've had maybe two experience Hollywood experiences like the one I described but like Most the time it's like if you're a judge of Character and it feels good when you come sit down the meeting and they're talking a good game And you know talk to other people who've worked with them They're like they're really great you can avoid all that shit you know or if you work with someone like netflix who's just like uh are you gonna make it yeah

okay we'll see when it's made yeah that's about it that's what they do with stand-up specials that's what they did with my special which was super weird it's amazing and they were like okay cool great job it's like that's how you do it. That's how you set the precedent. Yeah. You just allow the artist who, if you have a meeting with the artist and they have a very clear vision and they've laid it out and they've got a really great team around them, then just let them do the thing. Yes. Yeah, they've been great with that. Netflix is probably the best ever at just letting you do a special.

Yeah, 100%. 100%. I had a conversation once before I did a Comedy Central special, and we went over the phone. We had a phone call, and they said, okay, we have a transcript of your act, and we'd like to talk to you about various bits. And they're like, okay, this we've got to change.

I'm like, what do you mean we've got to change? And they go, well, it would be better if you didn't say it like that. I go, stop. We're done. The phone call was like 10 minutes long. It was supposed to be an hour conversation. I was like, we can't do this. I go, thank you.

Thank you, but I'm not going to do it. And they're like, what? And I'm like, yeah, I'm not doing it. We can't do this. I can't do this special. There's no way I'm going to go over the transcript on the phone with you yeah of my act because first of all i'm not even gonna say it the way it's on the transcript was one set at the comedy store that we recorded and then someone transcribed like i might not do

it that way in front of a live audience because i'm kind of free-flowing. I fuck around. I mix things up. I'll do this bit third instead of first and that bit fifth and they'll tie together in a different way because I feel it in the moment. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just not, there's no way I could do that.

Well, first of all, I don't have a transcript. So that gives me a little bit of an edge that you just have to trust that I'm, I mean, the first time I did the, was it the Tonight Show? Or no, the Fallon Show. Before he had the Tonight Show, was it just the Jimmy Fallon Show?

What was it? I think it was just the Jimmy Fallon Show. He had a show before the Tonight Show? Yeah. It was just the, I think it was just Jimmy Fallon. Was he like late? Yeah, it was a late night show. Like he had the Conan O'Brien spot or something?

Is that correct? Anyways, maybe it was that I'm sorry I think in a Carson Daly no no no no definitely not Carson Daly it was uh it was when Fallon he well I guess he's still in New York but he was in New York he was doing the show the roots were the band and my friend Todd was working as a writer there and they suggested I do a set there to be to do a live comedy set. And the producers, I remember the producers calling me, we had a phone meeting or whatever with my manager.

So they were just like, yeah, do you have any examples of what you're gonna do? And I'm like, no. Like, do you have a transcript? I'm like, no. And they're like, well, do you, are you, well, we'll get back to you. And then they let me do it.

And I remember like the producer paging the curtain for me before I was going out. And he's like, you're not going to do anything like embarrassing to us. And I'm like, no, man, it's fine. You know, whatever. And they let me go.

And I knew they were like so nervous about it because they didn't have any, you know, there was nothing to verify what I was going to do. And then I did my set and it was totally fine. Right.

But the thing is like, I've built in the ability for people that you're either gonna like want me or not yeah it's not like right you modify your you figured your way through the net yeah i mean i mean if they say like you shouldn't swear i'll do that that's easy yeah that's super easy i don't swear a lot and when i do swear it's just to be absurd yeah but uh But, uh, but you know, it's funny. It reminds me of, uh, you were talking about like kind of people coming in and ruining ideas or whatever. It's like my whole thing with like, uh, you know, I started this a little bit of a plug, but I started my own app called WhatsApp. Um, and what is it?

It's a, it's like a, think of it as like my own social media account, if you will. It's just like essentially like a glorified website, right? But it's an app. You go on there. All my videos are on there or videos that I want to be on there. I have this stupid web series called Droneversations, which is me interviewing people, but it's all shot on drones. And the drones are super loud and you can barely hear the conversation. How long did you develop this app for?

We developed it for like, it's my friend, Oliver Thomas Klein, who's a genius. It probably took maybe like maybe a year to build or less. It's a conversation, Getting an app going. I was looking to get an app going a few years back. Yeah. And I met with some people and the numbers they were throwing around. I was like, wait, how much? Oh, yeah.

I remember being quoted like close to 200 grand. Oh, I was double that. Really? Yeah. It was like half a million bucks. Oh, yeah. And that wasn't even sure. They weren't even sure we could get it done with that.

I was like, it's like I was building a house. Here's the initial estimate. Yeah. I mean, I worked with some really great people. My friend Sasha, who's a brilliant creative advertising person, she now has her own company, but she sells this product called Period Pants, which is like period pants for women, with like this no bullshit kind of thing, like whatever. Women's hygiene can be simplified,

we have a solution for it. What is the solution? It's called period pants. What do they do? They're underwear that have an absorbent material in it. It's not a new concept. Built into the pants? Built into the pants.

So the pant itself is the absorbent thing. So you got a padding in the pants. Yes. And do you Velcro it out and throw it in the wash? No, you wash the whole thing, just like underpants. So essentially it's just like special under the wash? No. Well, no, you wash the whole thing, just like underpants. So essentially it's just like special underpants that have an absorption layer to it, which is fucking brilliant. And her campaign is brilliant.

She did Impossible, the first Impossible Burger campaign. Impossible, like the whole thing, like the image of it and how it was presented. That was all Sasha Markov. But she linked me to, she, she linked me to some people, some designers who are really amazing people. And I sat down, designed with them and like thought about all the stuff and they're cool. Let me find a, you know, development team, get back to you. And the budget was like, you know, I was like, I was thinking about like 30 grand, 35 grand. And they're like, how about 190? And I'm like'm like i don't i don't have that money that's like a

lot of money so much money and then uh and then sasha was like no no no no there's got to be someone else and then she found a producer who then linked me to thomas oliver klein uh or oliver thomas klein and um and uh he gets on the the video call with. And I'm like, this is what I want to do. 30, 30, 35 grand. And he's like, oh, yeah, I can do that. Really? And I was like, for real? And he's like, yeah.

And he did it. 35 grand. I had my app. Now we've made additions to it that have cost more to implement. But he was completely accurate. It was one dude and my app was made. I have a friend who has an app for meditation. He built this app and then had to redesign the entire thing and start all over again with a new team.

Yeah, that happens. Yeah, I mean, with mine, it's great because we thought about modularity and expansion from the beginning. And he's a super smart dude. He's into crypto and all that stuff even before crypto was crypto. Is he into Dogecoin? Dogecoin. How do you say it? Doge. does anybody really know how to say it dogecoin it's it's doge yeah it's dogecoin yeah doge doge but you know and i was just like you know instagram's great but it's you're at the whim of their aesthetics you know plus you're being tracked and it's all it's really just a shopping they can just decide to demonetize you or rather deplatform you or just shadow ban you.

Yeah, algorithmize you or whatever. Yeah, and if you develop an application and that application is 100% you, then you're free. Yes, that's totally it. And that's why I did it. And I was like, okay, well, I'm going to put Droneversations up there. And Droneversations, I had Thundercats. Let me see Droneversations. Are there any of them online?

Can we watch? Yes. Or do you have to do the app? No, I think there might be some online. Yeah, there's Jack White, Feist, Thundercat. Go to Thundercat. Yeah, Thundercat. Fred Armisen.

And, yeah. And it's just, it's, it's a stupid idea, but I wanted to do it for so long. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to become my own production company and just, I'm going to stop pitching. I mean, I'll keep pitching, but like, I'm going to, if no one's into an idea, I'm just gonna make it. So, so this was one of the first, put it on the app and then I put pictures on there. I have like, you know, I can send messages to fans they'll be like hey you look cute today there as a notification or whatever and and it doesn't cost anything there's no monetization I have a store so that's a hard thing right I go to a store there's a price I pay that price that there's no hidden costs everything is transparent

oh that's really dope so and such a Reggie Watts thing to do oh man you have no idea I was like so stoked and then I'm gonna do the first well I don't know if it's the first but volumetric livestream because I have live streaming on it too so it's only when I can find okay oh yeah this is me and Jojo let me hear this I would just be swimming all the time and that'd be a great way to burn calories. You have a Chinese rice farmer's hat on. I do. You can do it forever.

Old people like to do it. You're both wearing masks and you're outside. Well, this was the early days. But now she gave up on the mask. Now it's a chin strap. I release that energy. Oh, really? That's what that shit's about?

Yeah. Do you tend to write about your life experiences? Yeah, and I'm thick on myself. Okay. It's so stupid. It's so ridiculous. It's so dumb. That's the dumbest shit ever.

It's like you've been attacked by bees. Yeah, it's just constant. And yeah, there's some great, the Fred Armisen one's great because- Where'd you film this? This is at that, oh, I forget, Elysian. It's on the edge of Elysian and that sculpture, this right there is, it's on the edge of Elysian. It's got this beautiful shot of downtown and I was super into her single. And so I wanted to like have the show turn into a music video and just suddenly out of nowhere.

And it totally turns into a music video and just suddenly out of nowhere. And it, and it totally turns into that, the music video. And, uh, it's, it's just a fun idea to do. And I wanted a platform that I can do this on and, and like, you know, and so I'm doing this live stream thing, um, with this crew called, uh, fifth planet and they do volumetric capture, which is basically a bunch of, uh, Microsoft Azure Connect cameras in a circle around you. And in real time, you can actually manipulate the camera. Like while I'm doing a video, you can actually manipulate the raw feed. And so it'll look, I wish there was a way to show you, but there's a, it looks like a, it looks like science fiction, like a hologram, but you're just

kind of doing, but I'm doing a bunch of experiments. And so I'm going to do three of those, three of those as a live stream, some comedy or whatever in a studio. So you can watch on, on Watts, WhatsApp. And then later that will become a full compressed music video with a beautiful sound and everything. And that will be put on a looking glass portrait holographic display. So I'm now producing content for the looking glass holographic display, which doesn't require glasses. You're just looking at this frame and there are just holograms inside of it. It looks like a box with things happening inside of it you don't need glasses for. And they're planning on you know

scaling so you eventually imagine you're gonna have a 50 inch holographic display using a technology that just it projects like 45 different angles simultaneously and your brain puts it together as three-dimensional oh wow so it's it's an incredible technology and i've known those guys way back since 2010 when they just had like a box with a bunch of leds inside of it whatever happened to magic leap do you remember those sort of misleading they kind of disappeared commercials they showed you like a ballerina dancing on a man's hand yeah yeah yeah on a girl's bed yeah it was the ar shit yeah yeah well it's like you know the great ar future you know there's like this huge promise of like oh you'll be able to put on a pair of glasses and blah, blah, blah.

Right. And that's still being worked on. And Apple will release something like that in the future. But, you know, it's still pretty limited. But what's exciting about like the looking glass technology is like a bunch of friends can walk into a room. If that was your monitor, they would see it just happening immediately. And you don't need any special gear. It's just happening.

And it looks fucking fantastic. So I want to produce, I'm going to produce, I'm going to do this, uh, a scene with actors. It's going to be a really dumb scene with actors, but because all the camera angles are happening simultaneously,

I'm going to take the feed, give it to a traditional editor and they're going to rotate, push in, create the, you know, the insert shot of someone setting down a cup, the two shot, the master shot, the singles, just from the one performance. Oh, wow. So that's my like- So all the information's there. Exactly. Yes. Now the resolution might be kind of crappy when

you push in to something. Even though it's 4K 60 frames, you're like, someone's setting down a glass. It might look artifact-y and stupid, but I don't really care it's about like can we create a traditional 2d linear edit with volumetric capture which is the holy grail of filmmaking in the future that'll be one of the things we'll use but so i'm excited about that so i'm running that that experiment that same live session as well have you fucked around at all with vr movies yes i made uh i made uh something called waves with my friend ben uh benjamin dickinson um that had uh natalie uh from uh game of thrones uh in it but yeah it was just like a you put on the vr headset and it's a movie it's not interactive who's natalie from the game of thrones which one i feel terrible that i'm

she's gonna kill me. You'd know her. Cersei's? Oh, there you go. There she is. Yeah, there she is, yeah. Reggie Watts is no stranger to pushing the boundaries of both technology and humor, and he just found a way to do both at once.

Yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. So this is all in VR. Dude, this is crazy. And it's a story. It's not interactive. That's why when you say movie, that's what it was.

Wow. And you did all this with a green screen like this? Yeah. Wow. And she was so cool. She was doing Game of Thrones, and she didn't have to do it at all. And she was like, sure, let's go for it wow yeah and I've never even seen this that's crazy yeah so and this was all my design like you know the whole I mean not the design design but the I the concepts were

there the designer obviously made it happen but um so that was my first thing, me and Ben did that. How long ago was this? That's a long time ago. It was like, I want to say 2017. Yeah. Let me say 2007. No, I think it was earlier than 2007. Oh, well, no, actually it was 2017. And since then I've done like social VR and alt space. I've done Sansar.

And right now, oh, and then there's this company called 3d live that I just saw an NFT installation on the 59th floor of the U S bank tower. Just this last weekend, you wore 3d glasses, Florida ceiling display. I don't know, 60 feet across and a wraparound 3d glasses. The NFTs are floating holographically in, in the center of the room. the NFTs are floating holographically in the center of the room. Jesus. There was like rings that appear from the monitor and then they just kind of ring out and the rings are floating in front of you and you can like kind of put your hands in it and it's rotating around.

It was insane and I couldn't believe it. And so I'm like, well, now I need to do a performance with that. And now I'm going to do a performance with, because the guy who did his name's Young Orb Seer, he was the guy showing his NFTs in the gallery. He used to work, or I guess he still works for 3D Life. But he used to be behind the scenes.

Now he's like made his own installation. He's NFTs. Mind blown. Hold, please. Yeah. Explain NFTs to people that don't know what you're talking about. Because I don't know what you're talking about. I do, but I don't.

I know it's a non-fungible token. Yes. I'm not exactly sure what that means. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah well it's just not very fungible you know tokens are super fungible got it these aren't very fun i don't even know if i could if i if i was on jeopardy what is fungible fungible fungible i don't know what does fungible mean okay let's google it duplicatable yeah like duplicatable maybe something let's google it. I think it means duplicatable. Fuck withable, I think. Fuck withable. Yeah, like duplicatable maybe is something. Let's Google it. Yeah, Google it.

What is the- Go to DuckDuckGo so they'll give you the truth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me the truth. Fungible, let's just say. Okay, here it goes. It's an economic term. Oh, of goods connected for without an individual specimen being specified, able to replace

or be replaced by another identical item mutually interchangeable It is by no means the world's only fungible commodity. Okay. I know. Yeah, I understand it even less now Yeah, I have heard of fungible like done it used in economics, but yeah, you can't replicate so yeah non fungible So basically it's like I have I've made a little video of me or yeah I've made a video of me a a 30-second video of me running around a park or something like that. If I want to make that non-fungible, then I mint it. And by minting, you use a minting service like Foundation or Zora. There's many others.

And you get a crypto wallet. And you get the crypto wallet set up. You put money in it it's converted into the crypto of your choice so let's say ETH which is very popular you know what etherium that's a very popular token yeah yeah ETH yeah nerds but yeah so so these are some these are we created so so see that one on the very top left? Yeah. That's the looking glass holographic display.

Oh, wow. And so that device, we made an NFT, me and my friend Panther Modern. His name is Brady Keene. Check out his music. It's fucking disgusting. So he made the 3D motion graphics and the TVs and designed all of that stuff with the wires. We shot a bunch of video of me doing the thing. He inserted them on the TV screens.

And then we formatted it. It's on a loop. It's got music with it. And that is then put into this device. And so I'm trying to push this phrase called fidgetal, meaning the convergence of physical and digital media. So that's like a perfect representation because it's the NFT is sold with the device. So when you bid on it and you know, you win it or whatever, that device is sent to you. There's laser etching on the back that says the name of the piece who made it and so forth. But technically it's that unit with the hologram.

So it's the world's first holographic NFT, which bought by Lee what's name Charlie Lee Charlie Lee who created litecoin another cryptocurrency he bought it for almost nothing and so he now has the physical unit that has the hologram in it and you could ostensibly just put it on a shelf and call it good or you can use the display to upload more holographic stuff if you want to. So that was the first holographic NFT. Those other videos that you saw cycling were just standard. Here's a video.

We've made it an NFT. But then someone can't replicate that video? They hold the license to it. Right. But if you just replicate it and have it on your laptop, how's someone going to stop you? I mean, I guess if you're trying to make money from it, then you couldn't. Yeah, something like that. You wouldn it then right then you couldn't yeah something like you wouldn't be able to make money off of it you wouldn't be able to make money off of it i mean technically you could screenshot it you could screen capture it you know if it's a video um in this case it's a hologram so you would have to

just you'd have to have a looking glass device and then you have to get the file in order to see it which it is available but it's stunning when you hear guys like Beeple. Like Beeple sold an NFT for what? $59 million? He's got a little more with his package though. You get a hair sample. You get his own hair. Is that his pubes? It could be.

I hope so. I don't know if he's got it. He's got very long, luscious pubes. He sends a whole package when you get his NFT. Okay. So you get an image. I think this is like an ipad with the image on it the one that sold for a bunch i believe was all of them together all of them

video sort of so all of the art for a year like 5 000 pieces yeah yeah i mean someone bought it for 69 million dollars in what bitcoin or what yeah i think eath they have to they have to buy the auction is in eath so christie's, it was auctioned by Christie's. It was like ETH was, I think it was in ETH. And then how would you go about being actually rich with this? How does Beeple go from this to being a baller? Oh, well, I mean, well, they bid, whoever bids, just like a regular auction. And then they bid using crypto, and the crypto is transferred before they transfer the file to the so the 69 million dollars in eth he could actually put into his account yes

you know he has 69 actual million dollars yeah you just convert it and he can get a ferrari yeah you could you could get one ferrari for 69 million the thing with eth though with some of these contracts like i don't know specifically which one is i heard him mention this he has a it's built into the contract, so if the person who bought it for $69 million sells it for $100 million, 10% of that goes back to his wallet. So he'll get $10 million.

Yeah, you set the resale. So like on ours, we did 15%, which is the average. Are you aware of the controversy surrounding the male Mona Lisa? Do you know the story about this? The male Mona Lisa? No. There's the most expensive surrounding the male Mona Lisa. Do you know the story about this? The male Elisa? No. No. Yeah.

There's the most expensive painting ever sold. It was sold for $400 million to the bin Salam. What is his name? Salam. Mohammed bin Salam. Am I saying his name right? The head of Saudi Arabia? MBS.

MBS. Okay. What is his actual name, though? I'm sorry. I think you were close. I fucked it up. It's probably Brian Saunders. Mohammed bin Salman. No, close.

Salman. Salman, yeah. Okay. Okay. The MBS, the head of Saudi Arabia, bought it for $450 million. This is it. And the crazy thing is someone bought it at one point in time in the past i want to say for fifteen hundred dollars and they didn't realize that it may or may not be

because this is where it gets controversial may or may not be the work of leonardo da vinci so it was it was restored so do the history of this the controversy in the history yeah there's a there's a crazy history to it where someone bought it for extremely low amount than a Russian oligarch bought it for over a hundred million dollars see one thousand one hundred seventy five dollars at an attic sale in New Orleans for a dirty painting that he hadn't even seen after a painstaking restoration I think took a decade Some began whispering that it might be that by the master himself

So an art dealer in 2005 paid 1175 dollars for it so 16 years ago someone paid a thousand 175 dollars for the most expensive painting ever sold So then this guy go down scroll that I can't get this articles. Oh, it's one of them $175 for the most expensive painting ever sold. So then this guy, go down, scroll down. I can't get this article. Oh, it's one of them. There's a bunch of other articles that are free that you could read about it, but it's a crazy story.

So this person, I believe, started working on it in 2005, started the restoration. started working on it in 2005 started the restoration and then by the time i think it was around 2015 they started realizing like holy shit because i guess sometimes in the past someone would take a great painting and they would paint over it yes i've heard it's crazy yes and so then there's this insanely painstaking restoration project where you're removing layer upon layer upon layer. What? $60 this was sold for in 1958. $60. So it gets even crazier.

Yeah. This was an article from 2017 where it was on auction for even less than it was just sold for. Yeah. So it was on auction for $100 million then. And that's when it was bought by the russian oligarch before mbs bought it so is the controversy that the person who originally bought it should get a kickback because no no the value no here's the controversy the controversy is it may not be by leonardo da vinci at all i see and or it might be partly by da vinci and so google this there's a scan of the image and i don't understand the

technology involved in the scan but the scan apparently revealed that there's more than one era of painting or there's more than one application of painting meaning that more than one person worked on it at more than one time like an exquisite corpse no no this doesn't reveal it. This is not it. It's about, there was a digital scan of that painting.

What is it called again? It said male Mona Lisa. I don't know. There's another name for it. Okay. There's a name for that painting. I forget what it is, but. Salvatore, no?

Mundi. Mundi, yeah. Salvatore Mundi. So when they did this scan, there's something about the hands and the way the paint is done on that in relation to the rest of it. That it's like, you know, they're talking about like fucking microns. They're measuring depth and layers and age and all sorts of different shit. But you're dealing with $450 million for a fucking painting.

Jesus. So it gets down to this dispute it's a long page about it okay see if you can see this the the images because there's images of the uh the analysis if you scroll down it's a beautiful painting yeah it's very beautiful oh there's there's images is that what it used to look like on the right i i think that's what it used to look like and then they slowly but surely restored it to the point where it's at now. Is that what it looked like? There's versions of it.

People would, yeah, there's more than one version of it. So people would buy paintings like, you know, 100 years ago, 500 years ago, and just fucking start scribbling on it. Look at that detail. Paint over it. Yeah, so they had to go over these things to restore them. Like insanely painstaking. Like I said, it took like 10 years to restore this.

I see. I see. They're doing like this. This is a cross section analysis. Yeah. Wild shit. Yeah. Because they have to find like what is the original paint color.

So they have to find the original layer. Exactly. So that's what it used to look like. Imagine that. And then they bring it from that to what you see now. Like, look at that. Oh, wow. Crazy.

So what does that mean then? Do they paint over it? Like, how do they do that? I mean, that's... Does someone paint over the old paint and make it look better? Is that better? Like, isn't it better to be scratchy and all fucked up in the original painting? I know, I know.

Yeah, I guess it just depends on what you want right i mean but that's the problem with this painting so after all that after buying it for 450 million dollars it's currently in controversial dispute as to whether or not it's actually the work of leonardo da vinci so sense they he they wanted him to uh donate it to the louvre in paris yeah but they were like we're not going to put it next to the mona lisa he wanted it to be next to the mona lisa as the male mona lisa mona lisa the male mona lisa and they're like uh-uh they're like we don't we don't we're not going to give this the red stamp we don't even know if this is real wow yeah interesting yeah it's just oh man could you imagine that that

feeling of being rejected like that and you're like imagine you're that guy you're that guy i mean this is the guy that allegedly killed uh jamal kashogi yeah yeah for criticizing his regime yes um and have you ever seen that movie the dissident which is an incredible movie but brian fogel that details all the the the events that took place. Oh, no, I haven't seen that. Crazy. But so he's the one that's in possession of this painting. And now it's currently on his yacht.

So this $450 million painting is on his yacht. And so art fanatics are like, you can't have a painting on a yacht. If it sinks. Well, not just that. The climate. Oh, you can't have a painting on a yacht. If it sinks. Well, not just that. The climate. Oh, you're right. The seawater. Yes.

To have these paintings. I mean, maybe he only had it for a day, or maybe he only had it to tell everybody he had it there. Maybe he actually has it in a climate control room. I imagine he would. I mean, come on. I don't know. He's bawling out of his mind.

He's buying $450 million paintings. He might be paying on it right now. But that's nothing to him. That's nothing to him. He might do whatever he wants. He can do whatever he wants. If you've got the kind of money for a $450 million painting, but it might not be legit.

And apparently, so I go down a rabbit hole. Apparently, there is a massive market for illegitimate paintings, and people get robbed all the time. And there was, in fact, a guy who was a master. I believe there's a documentary about him. There's a big one on Netflix about this right now. I thought that's what you were going to say. Oh, like the master forgers?

Well, there was a guy who was, that was his trade. What he would do was make fake Picassos. So he would make his own work work but in the style of Picasso and they would claim that this was a lost Picasso and he sold these things for millions and millions of dollars this is the Netflix one this lady got made you look they found she was selling fake shit for a long time oh okay I don't know just a lot of people off I've not seen that one but there's a guy um he was he did time and he got released eventually and he did time for creating fake masterpieces and it's really crazy because the guy was insanely talented right his art was

magnificent right right right but it wasn't michel's. But he conned people. Yeah, he conned people. Yeah, I mean the art was great, but he conned people. But it was, it's weird, it's like it's so, my uncle said this to me once. This is really a funny thing. Because when I was a kid, I would pretend I brushed my teeth, right? But I really didn't brush my teeth. And my uncle, my uncle Vinny, who's a really interesting guy, he's a very creative guy, he's an artist, and he said it's funny because i used to do the same thing but once eventually i realized i put so much effort into pretending that i brushed my

teeth that i could have just brushed my teeth with that same amount of effort and i wouldn't have to pretend and i thought about i'm like god damn he's smart oh man that's a really cool thing to say to a five-year-old it's like like a reverse. My uncle Vinny's cool as fuck. He was always like the cool uncle that everybody wished they had. He drove an MG, and he was an artist and photographer. Man, those types of people, I mean, they inspire me. Actually, this is funny. Kind of related, but I was just thinking about inspirational artists. My friend Victoria, who I'd met a while ago loosely,

she invited me to that NFT gallery thing, and she pulled me aside. It was late at night. It was on a Friday, last Friday, and she was like, I went to dinner, and I missed the first night of the showing, and I felt really bad, and I was like, do you have any videos?

Can you send me stuff? I was trying to make up for it or whatever and she's like, no, I don't have any of that shit. And then radio silence, I'm playing video games and then she texts me. She's like, oh, come on over to Frankie's house. And I'm like, who's Frankie? He's like, oh, he created I Love Comedy

or I Heart Comedy. I was like, oh, okay, cool. I'll check it out at a quirky house. Didn't want to go at first. Then I went, show up. She's a cybernetic artist. She's like a cyber artist. And she had she sold an NFT for eighty five grand, actually, based off of her a show that she did in Paris. But she's her left lower leg below the knee is amputated. And she has like these crazy prostheses that do all kinds of crazy things. One that's just a cone or whatever. And she always wears these insane, awesome outfits. And so she's at the party and it's all artists. Like one of the girls from Pussy Riot.

It's this amazing fashion designer that like dresses Victoria. And so she pulls me aside and she's like, listen, and she's from, she was born in Russia, grew up partially in Latvia, and then London until about, I don't know, her mid-teens, and then started working with MIT at the MIT Experimental Lab. I forget the official name of it. And so she's had this crazy journey, but she pulls me aside and she goes, listen, I know that

you didn't want to come initially, but you come from, I don't know how she just kind of distilled this. She goes, you come from the underground and it's really important for you to be in contact with counterculture because that's where you come from. And even though you've infiltrated into mainstream, you have a mainstream accent, I know it's very important for you to maintain your roots. You have a mainstream accent, she said? No, no, no. She said, I've accessed the mainstream or whatever. And I was like, who is this person? This is insane.

Because I've always kind of associated myself most with Anubis, you know, because like Anubis was like the watcher, the protector of the underworld. Right. Right. So Anubis had access to the world of the living and the world of the dead or Charon or Hades or Ishkigal, whoever you want to call. But and her saying that just blew my mind because I'm like, yeah, I love it. I love going into the darkest spaces and then coming out and finding the amazing things that then hanging out with james corden hanging out with james corden and then hanging out with james corden talking to uh asking a question of pete buddhich you know what i mean like like it's it's awesome that i can like modulate between these two different worlds right and and at this party it was just filled with people who have like had these intense lives you know that like came from russia or came from bosnia or came from uh africa or whatever and that had to overcome all these obstacles.

But now they're doing well. And now this NFT thing happens. And now they're making money to fuel their more of their art. It's an interesting. It was an art is so it's so fascinating. This this thing that people do where they create something and then other people get feelings off staring or listening or watching or whatever it is with their creation. You're putting something. There's an essence of your interpretation of the world,

and you're putting it into something. And then somebody gets that thing, and they go, oh, wow. Yeah. Like, oh, that's fucking cool. Man, yeah. Which is why modern art at LACMAma is so fucking offensive when you go to you see like a plexiglass box on the ground like that's the piece you're like fuck you yeah yeah totally hey fuck you yeah i know well that's the thing right it's like it's so context-based right

so if you would have seen that piece maybe when it was introduced and you understood the context of it it is supposed to say fuck you no it's not it's a fucking hack well that's what i mean they've hacked the system that's what i mean sometimes artists do that on purpose because they're just saying fuck you because they're like you just bought you just you just bought it guys as long as you do another art that's real of course like i need to see that i need to see that you didn't just find a loophole no i i mean i completely agree i. Well, check out Victoria Modesta's NFT that she sold. It'll blow you away. Okay.

That is like the for real deal. Like she's an incredible artist. Did you find the guy? There is a guy that is famous. Like see, like a man arrested for fraudulent paintings. No, that's what you wouldn't say. Creating fraudulent masterpieces. Oh, there you go.

Because it's a famous guy. Because his work, like- Original fake masterpieces. They had sold his stuff in auctions, and when you see his work, you're like, holy shit. Like, it's amazing. But, you know, he had said, like, these are lost Basquiat's or how do you say his name? Basquiat.

Basquiat. Yeah. These are lost Warhol's. I wonder, why didn't he just like say that like he's doing a conceptual series of like, you know, extended works of, of masters. Cause he's a crook. I mean, but it would have been so much more fun than that. I mean, like why do the crook angle? It's like, you still could have made a shit ton of money.

Well, that's not as much. I agree for sure. But I like the fact that there's It's like you still could have made a shit ton of money. Well, that's not as much. I agree for sure. But I like the fact that there's a guy like that out there. There's something about it that's so strange because he's clearly a brilliant artist when you look at the guy's actual work. But he's also clearly a scumbag. So it's, I just, there's something about folly, about human folly, like that kind of, I like it. I like that people do things like that. That like, oh, you're really into spending $25 million on a painting?

Guess what I have? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me help you out. Yeah, let me help you. Let me alleviate you. There are some of these people that just accumulate massive amounts of money and then they get really into having these prestigious works of art yes whether or not they actually understand i'm like is this the guy inside the 80 million dollar scandal that rocked the art world

no i think that's the same one that you were isn't it maybe that's the documentary minute is it that's a different dude is that that it? Yeah, that is him. I'm just a guy. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Oh, wow. Well, anyway.

I mean, that's insane. You know, they do that with wine, too. Do they? There's an incredible documentary called Sour Grapes. Yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah, this is it. Wow wow and there's more than one of these guys by the way there's more than one of these guys that creates fake art because like if you're like a fucking if you're newly rich yeah you know like you're some dude who runs a

tech company and all of a sudden like you know you go to an ipo and you sell and you're worth a billion dollars now you're like what yes and then're like, I want a fucking cool painting. Yeah. And you don't know jack shit about art. And next thing you know, you get connected to some other shady guy that you buy ecstasy from. And he knows a guy who has a Pollock for sale. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Oh, by the way, the Spirit Molecule guys, right? You know those dudes, right? Sure. I just met with them just before. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. Mitch. Yeah.

Yeah, and the other guy. Who was the other guy? Oh. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. Yeah, so they want me to narrate the next one. Oh, nice. So I thought that was so bizarre that I'm meeting them before you,

because I didn't put together that you were the original guy. So I was like, so bizarre that I'm meeting them before you and I because I didn't I didn't I didn't put together that You were the original guy. So yeah, how weird is that? I was the Rod Sterling. Oh, yeah Yes. Yes. I can't wait to see it. I'm so excited to see it. But yeah, I thought that was pretty funny But yeah, we were talking they were talking about DMT, but I was talking about ketamine. I've been doing ketamine and experiment lately which has been so insane. I mean, such an insane. I don't know if you've ever experienced it. No, I have not. It's a dissociative. So, I mean, when we were teenagers growing up in Montana, we didn't have access to any drugs, basically.

So, we were doing Robitussin, which had dextromethorphan in it, which is also a dissociative. And it can be very, very, very powerful. I'm not condoning doing that. But as kids in the 80s, like, that's, you know, we were listening to Bauhaus and doing Robitussin. And, but, yeah, so ketamine is interesting because a lot of friends are, like, they're doing ketamine therapy. They do blah, blah, blah. But ketamine, I don't't know it was just crazy we were talking about ketamine and dmt and there's like a crossover point you know who's really into ketamine john lilly john lilly is the guy who

created the isolation tank he's also a pioneer in interspecies communication he was working on communicating with dolphins dolphins in hawaii yeah And the experiment was defunded because the woman who was running the experiment was jerking off the dolphin. Oh, my God. You know that story? I don't remember that conclusion. This is what happened. The dolphins would get horny and they were distracted all the time. They wouldn't concentrate.

So they just wanted to fuck. All the time, they wouldn't concentrate. So they just wanted to fuck. And so she would masturbate the dolphins so that the dolphins would relax, and then they could get some work done, and then they would try to communicate with the dolphins. Yes. She was trying to get the dolphins to speak, but the problem is- Right, it was legitimate.

Yes. Well, listen, so is cumming. Yeah, of course. It's a part of biology. It's natural. Yeah, 100%. It's like we're just so fucked up and puritanical and filled with shame yes we think there's something wrong with masturbating a

dolphin in order to get it to comply but meanwhile you know what's really wrong how about slavery of dolphins yes you know you're forcing this fucking this intelligent animal that may or may not be as smart as people yes some weird subservient existence where you've got it in a pond yes it's crazy oh i yeah that's that is way crazier than jerking off the dolphin yeah the fact that that is where we get outraged we get outraged that she's touching the dolphin's penis not that she's made it a slave yes in order to try to get it to talk it's so crazy to me i know i know and i'm sure it was the optics of it like once that got out there like well we can't exactly i'm pretty sure this was all in the 60s right which is even

yeah so lily developed the sensory deprivation tank so what he was trying to figure out a way to separate the human body and all of the sensory input from consciousness so he's sure states yes that is exactly what alter states is based on. It's based on Lilly. Because Lilly was doing stuff that was so crazy, and he was taking all these insane psychedelic drugs. They literally used him as the inspiration for altered states. That's why if you go to watch Altered States,

and what's his name, William Hurt? I think that's him, yeah. When William Hurt, in the beginning, is in the early developmental stages of Lily's tank, which was essentially regular water, and he had a scuba helmet on. Oh, that's right. And then the water is heated to the same temperatures as skin, and there's all these tubes that provide him oxygen. He's standing upright.

Eventually, they turn it into this thing where he's lying in it, which is like a regular sensory deprivation tank. But all of that is created by Lilly. Lilly wrote a bunch of books on it, like The Center of the Cyclone, The Deep Self, and even one of his books, I forget which one, you can actually buy, and there's design instructions for building your own sensory deprivation tank with like pond liners and waterbed heaters and the whole deal. But Lily used to take intramuscular ketamine.

Yes. So he would just blast himself with ketamine and lie down there and fucking. Oh, my God. And that was his thing. I mean, you know, I don't know. I took an accident, not accidental, but like a very large dose, which, I don't know, put me in full ego death. And all I can say is that it put me into what I like to call the paradoxical state, which is you, there's nothing to compare yourself to anything anymore. So there is no you. And so

you're just experiencing, not experiencing simultaneously, whatever. And it's very fractal. Everything is fractal. It's like anything that you try to cling on to mentally, you think you know what it is, and then it just is not that anymore. So your mind has to just surrender completely to this constant fractal onslaught. And and what was interesting about that is that it felt like like to me in my mind, it's like, oh, this is the this is the source of reality. This is like if you're getting close to the source of how reality is generated and perceived, essentially, that's as close as you can get to being aware of reality itself in essence. And that feeling, I mean, I didn't know where it was. You know, it's like you're nowhere.

And to take that and then put that in a sensory deprivation tank, I mean, that's insane. I mean, that's like I don't know what that would do because I already felt like I was just gone anyways. I didn't know what position my body was. I didn't know what position my body was. I know what a body was. I wasn't in my room. My eyes were open and I could see nothing that was familiar at all. And I didn't know what familiar was, but to mix those things, I don't know. It's a very, it's a very interesting feeling because it's also very weirdly pragmatic on, on lower doses. It's pragmatic. Like let's say you have a lot of trauma going on that's why they're using it for therapy you can actually sign up and do legal therapy with intramuscular

injections of ketamine whitney's doing whitney cummings doing it with a mister a nasal mister oh okay oh a mr mr yeah wow yeah i mean it's a very it's very interesting a lot of my friends i don't know i've had like some crazy breakthroughs on it because you're, because it's like, you know, I have hangups. We all have hangups, right? It's like all this programming. I grew up Catholic. So I've got like a lot of, you know, kind of things that I'm like, and if I reveal that, you know, everyone's going to know that I'm a blah, blah, blah or whatever. And that thing comes up, especially when you're more conscious, like functional level ketamine, it comes up and you're like, oh, it's just this. And then you tell your friend and they're like, oh, yeah, I wouldn't worry about that. And you're like, okay, cool. And then you're moving on. It's like the most plasmatic. It allows you to get past things.

Yeah. It's like, it's empathic. So if you're doing it with someone, you feel like you're sharing an experience together, but then it's also kind of slightly like you're aliens, piloting this body is just like, it's just a robot to get you through this world. And you're just like piloting it, you know, when you get up to get something, it's like, I'm going to get water now.

Excellent idea, would you like some? I would like some. Here's water, thank you very much. Consciousness is crazy, you know, it's the weirdest high, and then like, are you scared of your relationship right now yes i am scared that they don't understand me well that's too bad so you know what i don't i can't control that you know like these revelations happen i'm not saying

it's a fix all everything do you remember the revelations yeah very much so it's different than dmt and that the memories are more easily accessible? They are. I mean, not everything, but definitely there's things that I remember about it. And it definitely, I think, helps to cause, I don't know if it's, you know, I'm not a scientist, but it's not like neural pathways. But it definitely alters the way you approach and think about the things that you're having issues with. Neil Brennan was the first person that told me he did it therapeutically. He went to a doctor and he was getting IV ketamine And he was tripping balls and like I remember him telling me in the hallway of the Comedy Store And you know you know Neil yes, Neil's intense guy. Yes, like and I'm sitting there doing this and I'm like hey

I'm really fucking high like this is crazy like this is like a full-on Psychedelic trip in the doctor's office. Oh my gosh, which is extra trippy. Extra trippy. It's extra trippy because you're like, this is a doctor's office. And then you all of a sudden you're like, whoa. You're in interdimensional traveling.

Yes. Yeah. Ugh, that's, yeah. DMT, I've been too chicken to do the second hit, so. Really? Yeah, twice I tried it and I, because you know, you go zero to peaking on acid in three seconds, the first hit. Right. And then you're supposed to take another hit.

You're supposed to go three. You're supposed to go three, yeah, I know. But my friend was like- I always found it's easy after the first hit. You know, it's also the smoke. It's so acrid. It's gross. The grossest shit.

So I was like, oh, I'm breathing in plastic. And then like, now I'm really high. Now I'm supposed to breathe in more plastic I just I don't know I couldn't do it but the ketamine for whatever reason

the dose that I took it took me to that it wasn't planning on it necessarily I knew it was gonna be I was gonna get high but I didn't know I was gonna go that high

that was different and it was intramuscular as well no that I had to snort it unfortunately I don't like snorting I don't like snorting it's such a junky feeling I don't snort anything I've never snorted a drug yeah it's the unfortunately. I don't like snorting. It's a junkie feeling. I don't snort anything.

I've never snorted a drug. Yeah, it's the only time. I don't think so. Let me think. There's that Ibogaine. No, I've never snorted a drug. What's the one that they blow it into your nostrils? Yeah, it's a snuff, right?

They blow it up your nose. Yeah, which, you know, I don't know. It just seems like dirty. I think what I'm going to try to do is I'm going to try to see if I can get involved in some kind of a study or whatever. I think I'm on my last leg of it. It was just like a nice like little experimental period over like a couple months. But I think I learned a lot and it reminded me a lot of Robitussin, which when we were on, you know, I remember peeking on Robitussin and then my friend going, I have a little bit of weed. You have some weed? Let's try some. And then we smoked some weed and we just fucking left. I know that it's not supposed to be addictive and it's not supposed

to be dangerous, but I've heard of people getting addicted to it and wind up going into rehab. And I'm pretty sure I knew a guy who died from it. There was a fighter who was really into ketamine. And I remember because a friend of mine went to visit him in rehab. Yeah. And he actually wound up dying. Well, it does elevate your heart rate. So if you have some kind of a heart condition or something like that and you take a lot of it and you're not giving yourself a break or whatever. Yeah.

So if you just keep hammering it all the time. If you keep hammering it, you're just gonna be spiking your heart rate all the time. I know that. I mean, there'll be doctors out there that'll be like, well, actually, but I just know that. And then also liver toxicity as well.

Oh, okay. And this is like chronic use, right? Right. But it doesn't have, it's definitely not the type of high where you're like, I can't wait to do that again. Like after, definitely there's like, if you take a small amount of it and you're like, oh, I'm feeling pretty good. Do you want to take a little bit more?

Or like I'm in Berlin. That was one of the first times I did it. It's like you're in Berlin in a club and you go to a dirty stall bathroom with five people and someone pulls out a key. And I'm like, well, I guess this is how you do drugs. You know, whatever. When in Rome. But like they just do tiny bumps of it and they re-up like every 30 minutes or something like that. And I did that a few times.

I'm like, I kind of get it, but to me it's a waste of the opportunity. To go deep. Yeah, to go, because for me, it's like, if I'm doing anything, even if I'm doing an edible or if I'm smoking weed or whatever it is, those are the only things I do. It's like I do weed and recently occasionally ketamine,

but mostly just weed. I don't drink or anything. So if I'm going to do something, I'm looking at it as an experiment. This is an opportunity to learn something about myself and to see what I can notice and what I can bring back from it. That's the thing is you really can learn something.

And it sounds so trite, right? It sounds so cliche. Like, yeah, I'm doing psychedelic drugs to learn about myself, man. Yes. You know, doesn't it? It sounds fake. It sounds kind of fake, doesn't it?

It does, but you can. You really can, but you can't always. No. And you got to really go into it with the intention of actually trying to learn something and then be open-minded about it and try to bring something back. Well, it's vulnerability, you's vulnerability you know and i think that's the biggest thing for me that i notice uh you know it's just you open up and suddenly you're hanging with your friend then

you're seeing them in a way that you've never seen them before and this release of like compassionate understanding and uh and you're i mean for me my favorite part is when it's silly. To me, silliness is the greatest, most enlightened state that you can be in. Where it's just like, oh, or like we're high on acid and see a bush and it looks like a Muppet or whatever, and you're just like, look, it's a Muppet.

And they're like, oh my God, it is a Muppet. Is it a Muppet? What is it? I don't know, let's check it out. You know, look, it's a Muppet. And they're like, oh my God, it is a Muppet. Is it a Muppet? What is it? I don't know. Let's check it out. You know, like adventure, goofy silliness. Like that to me is like such a load off because you're like with all these other people, you're being, because silliness,

being silly in front of people and with people is very vulnerable. People don't necessarily think of it that way, but it is being very vulnerable. Oh yeah, for sure. And vulnerability is, that's why I like doing comedy. It's like comedy is like, here you are on stage. It's the only, one of the only art forms where you go up on stage and it's, and if it's just you stand up,

you're on stage. That's all it is. It's just a human saying some words that are setting up expectations and subverting the expectation and causing a momentary zoomed out, joyous, paradoxical laughing state yeah that's it that's it and i love it yeah it's amazing and it actually changes the state of mind of the people that are viewing it it's an art form that changes your state yes 100 and elicits a response it's one of the only art forms where it requires a response that's true yeah it actually does yeah otherwise it's not going well right or it is. Otherwise, it's not going well. Right.

Or it is going well until it's not going, or whatever, you know. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, because music is different. Like, someone's playing a beat, people are like, you know. But a comedian gets up on stage and says,

so I was out the other day, and I was talking, you know, so and so, and no laughter, and they're like, ah, fuck. And it's the marked contrast when you try something that's not funny. Like, every now and then you have a thought, and you're like, let me it's the marked contrast when you try something that's not funny like every now and then you have a thought you're like let me just see if this one comes out good yeah and it comes out of your mouth it's like there's nothing there and you're like all right it just wasn't there yeah i thought there was something there i swung i know but it's

great too when the comedian comments on it right it's like you know i mean it's like you know i i do a lot of weirdo comedy shows you know like all comedy shows or whatever like natasha leggero and those kinds of people and it's just i love it when they're like going and they're like nope not so much okay cool moving on you know like and you're like okay we're all in it together yeah yeah yeah well it's you know the recognition that what you're doing is it's you can't really grasp it sometimes it's there sometimes it's not particularly when you're doing is you can't really grasp it. Sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not, particularly when you're doing something that's improvisational.

Yes. And you're taking a leap. You're always taking a leap. And for me as an improviser, I love that once you find a vein, essentially, you find a vein and you can feel people leaning in and you're like, oh, this is going to be so stupid. Yeah.

Oh, this is going to be so stupid. Oh, this is going to be completely unnecessary. I don't need to do that i'm gonna spend way too long doing this now i'm gonna go over here now i'm gonna do that it's like if it's bubbling it's just jazz you know it's it's the best it's wild that art comes in different feels like there's different feels to art like we were talking about wine earlier like the creation of wine is an art it's a weird art that takes a long time because you have to grow the grapes like if you talked do you know maynard from tool yes yeah i mean i don't know him but i know that the group he's a great guy i love him okay he's a really good dude but he has a vineyard you know i didn't see his vineyard

it's he makes great wine oh wow like really. Like really good wine. And he's 100% dedicated to it. Sick. Shout out to Maynard. So he describes in depth the process of creating this wine and how the soil has to be right and it has to be watered a certain amount and there's a certain amount of, you know, like the atmosphere has to be. He does it all in Arizona. That's where he grows his grapes.

Yeah. But he does the whole process, like to smashing the grapes and putting it in the barrels and fermenting it and adding all the stuff to it and the whole deal. Wow. It's amazing. It's amazing. But it's an art form. And obviously he's from Tool and Pussifer and, you know, and A Perfect Circle. He's a musician as well.

So he does other art that's more instantaneous and instantaneously gets into your body. But he's also doing this long burn, this slow burn art, which is wine. Yes. And we were talking earlier about frauds. There's this, this documentary called, um, sour grapes where this guy got in tight with all these wine people. And at first he starts buying like really great wine at auctions and then selling it to other people. He was in possession of some like really rare, great wines. And then somewhere along the line, he becomes a fraud. And he starts making fake wine.

So he starts taking wines and mixing them and creating these fake labels. And then selling wine as like, you know, a 1924 this. He even has wine from like Thomas Jefferson. It's not really Thomas Jefferson's wine. Like in these ancient bottles. And he did all of this in his house. And like they busted him. And the guy had like labels and all these bottles of wine

and formulas written down of add a one-third this and two-thirds that. And he would add certain things to the wine to get the wine to taste similar to this. That sucks. You know how you say you have a really great ear? Yeah. This guy Rudy in this documentary had apparently an amazing wine palette

So he would be able to taste these notes in wine that a moron like me would not get Like I actually went to a wine tasting with this guy what this guy yes. With this guy who's in jail currently and he's going to get deported. I think he's from Indonesia. He's getting deported, but he's in some fucking jail in Colorado right now. I went to a wine tasting with him because my friend is a very big wine connoisseur

and he was in with this guy before the guy started selling the fake wine. So they were a part of this wine lovers club sort of thing. And they would get together. And it was my friend's birthday. So I go there. And I remember the guy from that. So I saw the documentary.

I'm like, fuck, I think I know that guy. So I asked my friend, I'm like, did I meet this guy? He goes, yeah, he was at my party. I'm like, fuck, that's crazy. So this guy made millions and millions and millions of dollars selling people fake wine. And at the end of the documentary, they're destroying crates and cases of this fake wine. But it's real wine. Right, of course.

If I had it, I'd be like, this is the best wine I've ever had. Because I don't know anything about wine. I just know what kind of tastes good. But to him, he had the ability to trick these folks but what's interesting in the documentary is like some people weren't tricked like oh like he sold some real wine apparently yeah some of it was fake and then there's one scene in the movie spoiler alert where this guy who was friends with him's like this is one of the real bottles that rudy sold me and these guys are tasting it and it's like oh yeah this is great this is great of the real bottles that Rudy sold me. And these guys are tasting it, and it's like, oh, yeah, this is great. This is great.

And then one guy gets a hold of it, and he goes, like, when was this bottle opened? And they're like, two hours ago. He's like, tasted it. He goes, this is fake. This is bullshit. And he starts saying that this does not have nearly the vivacity of this other wine. Oh, sick.

But it's like, oh, what are you tasting? What are you experiencing? How subtle is the difference between real and fake that these guys who have? Fucking wine cellars in their homes where they have thousands of dollars in wines and they're so invested in this hobby They have they can't tell but you can tell yeah, what are we talking about here? What is going on? That that shit. I mean, you know, it goes down to that like fake music. It's like if you played like a real, someone playing a piece on real piano, someone playing But it's not because you're robbing someone.

Well. You're robbing them. Yeah, well, but the mechanism of identification is like, you know. The way the guy got busted is one of the Koch brothers bought $4 million worth of wine from him and it was fake. So he had $4 million worth of wine from him, and it was fake. So he had $4 million worth of fake wine, and some of it was like Thomas Jefferson bottles. Shit was like $100,000 a bottle, like crazy stuff.

And so this guy has this like immense wine cellar. He's a wine collector, and he got duped. The documentary is incredible because this guy comes from France to the auction to show them that even on their pamphlet, like the catalog, like these wines were never created. Like we never made a magnum in this year with this vineyard. This is fake. Right. Like you're selling a fake bottle of wine here.

Like this is fake. The year is wrong. Where it's's sold is wrong the spelling is incorrect like wow but they had like ancient labels they made the labels dirty and they made them look old it's fucking wild just theater but it's also it's wild how these people were so into this thing that was almost intangible like this the palette and and so many of them were sucked into it it makes sense i mean yeah i mean take it i mean take advantage of people's passion i mean like how many times does that happen you know you could get sold all kinds of things here's an original vintage whatever engine or here's a right uh whatever and then people are like yeah they want it so bad and they're passionate about it because they're nerds about it and but they're not nerds in that like hyper expert expert way right and then they just they're

you know and i guess probably some people are sitting some on some fake shit but they're completely happy so ultimately if they don't know it's fake they might still be really happy i guess but to to take advantage of people that way, obviously, is like fucking low. But it's... Let's make a show about it. Yeah. The documentary is amazing. You should see it.

It's really good because it's just... It details how these people got duped and how this world is so odd. The world of the wine collector. It's a strange world, man. Well, it's a it's a strange world man well it's tough i mean and also like i mean you can take that to other types of food and things like that where people are like well this is a ancient blah blah remember uh what was that movie uh the freshman remember that uh with uh dustin hoffman matthew broderick oh and um uh and uh who was in Apocalypse Now? The crazy guy who goes crazy, who shaved his head.

Martin Sheen? Oh, no. Marlon Brando? Yeah, Marlon Brando. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Apocalypse Now, sorry. Yeah, and so they're both in it. And he plays like a godfather type.

And then they have this business where they're taking exotic animals and they're making culinary events, like underground secret, made from the rarest animals, endangered species or whatever, and everybody's super appalled, but then you find out that they're just faking it, like with chicken and beef, but preparing it differently. Saying it's gorilla or something like that. Which is kind of like a reversal.

You know what I mean? In a way it's kind of Robin Hood-y because it's like, well, they're enriching themselves still, but at at least they're not actually doing this. They're not really supposed to eat gorilla Yeah, but then but then you have people believing that they are eating like they're stoked to eat endangered And I think that does go on though. There really are these clubs. I'm trying to remember this. There's an article Was it in Vanity Fair I forget where the article was but there was an article about this club that meets and they'll eat exotic endangered animals god damn it yeah well that's you know that is one of the reasons why rhino horn is so valuable rhino horn is

valuable and it's particularly valuable in some circles of elite people in Asia. Right. Because they know that rhinos are endangered. And, you know, although it supposedly has like it gives you hard-ons or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't really. It's an aphrodisiac. Yeah, but it doesn't really.

No. But what it does do is show everybody that you have the means to acquire something that is incredibly illegal and very difficult to get. So they murder rhinos just for their horn. And the horn is virtually useless. It's a fingernail. It's like keratin. It's like hair.

And that's what it is. And it's molded into this thing. And they'll take it and make a tea out of this. And they'll all sit around and drink it. Like, look at us drinking rhino horn like they they're just symbolizing their ruthless capitalist instincts that they can acquire this jesus christ fucking right and that's the same thing with like tiger dicks and they'll eat tiger dicks and it's so stupid it's just like just knock it off guys like this like it's unnecessary but just evil you know mean, how many rhinos are left?

Man, you know, that reminds me of like, it was like one thing I wanted to mention. I know we've been talking for a while, but like, you know, the whole like, I'm not necessarily saying this because it's politics. It's not about politics. It's just about something to think about. It reminds me of like that mindset of like if someone if a politician is is essentially just spewing a bunch of fireworks and like and they begin any sentence with, well, Democrats, well, Republicans, like that's how they're starting anything. It's like completely worthless. It's like, are you solving? Are you solving a problem? Right. Are you attempting to work with as many people that are right to solve the problem as possible in order to solve problems for as many people as possible?

That's the that's the only criteria for the job. Anything outside of that is completely unnecessary. So, like, I'm going to always try to choose people that are into solving problems, not worrying about getting reelected necessarily. I know that's part of it. But I know. But, you know, I'm saying, like like I want someone who wants to solve the problem and I want someone who like gets it's like, what's your idea? OK, cool. Let's let's aggregate that and let's let's solve this problem.

And I know that politics is a whatever in our form, but I'm just not into it. And I'm so fucking tired of it. And every time I listen to read an article, there's a video about whatever this that uh someone complaining about this well the republicans are trying to you know and the left and the right well they think that they well they think they can solve it's like why don't you stop shut the fuck up and stop complaining about shit and why don't you like solve some shit yeah how about that yeah reggie watts for president reggie reggie 2024 let's go fuck your party the joe rogan experience yeah that's what's gonna say under the in quotes fuck your party yeah fuck your party yeah just yeah like this solutions only solutions only no fireworks uh by the way who did that joe rogan experience

uh vocal um i think it's a digital video a digital audio thing it's like red band made it a long time ago and i think it's like one of those things where you can get like your apple oh so speak in a language it's just like a text-to-speech synthesizer yeah yeah yeah that's okay it sounds really it's sounds convincing well it's like the lady who gives you That's so great. It's real simple. It sounds convincing. Well, it's like the lady who gives you, when you use navigation, what voice do you use?

Oh, sometimes I switch it to Australian. Ah. Yeah. Yeah. They have now South African, Australian, English. I think they have New Zealand accent too. But there's so many of them. I don't know.

I end up just like, and then I change it to mail you know to like what's that like you know or whatever it's my wife uh had my kids do all the voices for ways so she has uh when she uses ways it's one of my daughters going turn left are you serious yeah you can do that yeah you can do that i didn't know that it's really dope i've always wanted to do a voice pack for like- It's really cool. So like when we're driving, if we're using her phone and Waze, it'll use my kid's voices to tell us where we're going. Hey dad, turn left. Warning, police ahead.

Oh my God. It's pretty cool. That's exciting. I've always wanted to do that. Because obviously you heard about like, you know, whatever, Darth Vader. Yeah. But you can get like one of your friends to do it. I love it.

If you have like a good friend that would be into doing that for you, maybe you could do it for them. I would totally do it. I would offer doing that for people. Yeah. For sure. That'd be a cool thing. Like if you're driving and your best friend is going, hey man, turn right. You're like, all right.

Like it'll make you kind of feel good. Oh my gosh. I would so do that. Well, you know, back in the day, like, you could do that for your phone. You know, like smartphones before Apple, like Nokia's or whatever. Like, you could replace everything. All the chimes, the notifications, the alarms. You could just choose whatever you wanted it to be.

Yeah, with a WAV file or something. Yeah, with a WAV file. And it's either you recording or you just, like, sample something. Yeah. Like, I kind of want that to come back. Because it's more exciting to have a personalized device as opposed to do-do. Yeah. But that's the argument of Android versus Apple, right? That Android will allow you to change and alter so much more.

You could fidget with things and tweak, whereas Apple comes, it's just kind of like more user-friendly right out of the box and smoother, but not much anymore. Well, it's pretty close. Yeah, it's close. It's like Porsche versus Ford. That's how I look at it.

Really? So Android's Ford. So Android's Ford. So Ford, there's like tons of aftermarket parts, right, that you can do. And arguably there is that for Porsche to Porsche but put but but Porsche like when you buy a 911 you're like this is the 911 that you bought that's what it was engineered and designed for and you kind of just stick

with it right because that's that's how it's made so they're like no we made it and it's done you know whereas like a Ford if you got like a Ford Camaro or something like that you're like I'm gonna mod it out i'm gonna trick it out oh sorry i'm sorry i apologize i apologize uh ford uh mustang no but what's the other what's the other one uh ford uh uh gt i'm just in so much trouble with car guys right now well the ford doesn't make a ford no but like uh what's like a super modded ford like a like a i don't know like a what am i think they have like a super modded Ford? Like a, I don't know, like a, what am I thinking? They have like another muscle car besides the Mustang. Nope.

They don't? Nope. You should have went with Chevy or something. Really? That's the only. Even Jamie knows. Jamie drives a goddamn electric car and he knows. But that's seriously.

That's it. Mustang. So sorry, guys. Ford makes the Mustang. I mean, Bronco. They make a Bronco. Yeah, Bronco. They make a GT, the Ford GT.

But the reality is like when it comes to muscle cars, they have a bunch of different versions of the Mustang. Yes. But when it comes to muscle cars, Chevy has far more variety. Okay, so I'm thinking Chevy, I guess. Yeah, Chevy has the Camaro and the Nova and the Corvette. Right, right, right. Unless you're talking about early Fords, like Fairlands and things like that.

Sure. But that's all muscle cars. Yeah, they're not. Anyways, but my thing is like, and pick any Japanese car brand, the same thing. There's like people modding the fuck out of them and there's like a huge market for it. Whereas like higher end cars, you can find tuners, right?

But they're usually called tuners. You can mod things. Obviously you can put a different exhaust system on it or whatever. But generally when you get it, you're like, no, this drives just fine. I'm okay. Like I'm not going to mod myt3 if i get a new gt3 right i'm not really gonna mod it i mean unless i'm part of a racing crew and we wanted to make an adjustment to to the tires right or

adjust the suspension in some way yeah or something but uh i don't know i just kind of look at it as that way i'm like oversimplifying and everyone's gonna but in terms of the user interface like the new android user interface like as you get to like android 11 and like the new i have a one of those uh galaxy s21 i have that one too yeah fucking great that's a beautiful phone and the other thing that they do better is they have different photography modes they make it that you could really get into it and you have a lot of more a lot more options like one of them is the ability to take a photograph of the moon there's a moon shot and because if you try to take a photo of the moon with the iphone you don't get shit you get a weird light yeah you're right it's just a blob a blob yeah but with s21 ultra the new one when you take a photo of the

moon it'll there's an actual setting that will adjust the aperture to make use of the amount of light that's coming off of the moon so you get a clear image see if you can get a photo of that s21 ultra galaxy s21 ultra moon shot that's you could actually take a picture i've taken a picture of the fucking moon and it looks good looks great it's yeah it's always so it's always so hard i will say like say like the new cameras on the iPhones are great for low light. Oh, yeah, incredible. Yeah, I mean, and I have both.

I always have one Android device and one Apple. Yeah, we've talked about this before. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because when your car, you had Google connected to your car for navigation, then you were holding, I was like, I like that. Oh, yeah.

Fuck around with both operating systems. Why not? You know it i do it for all situations i have way too much technology but i don't trust not like i feel like the iphone is more secure oh no i think the iphone is way more secure a hundred percent of that you know secure enclave and all that all that stuff they take privacy pretty serious i mean they're not unhackable unhackable, but they're pretty damn close. Yeah, all of it's hackable. I mean, especially that was a part of that documentary, The Dissident. Yes.

Where they use that Pegasus software from Israel and they use that to get into Jeff Bezos' phone. That's how they found all those embarrassing texts between him and his girlfriend. Oh, shit. Cost him his divorce. Oh, that's right. Mm-hmm. Yeah right yeah well you know

transparency to a certain degree if you live a transparent life it it helps you know i'm willing to i'm willing to admit my mistakes look at that oh that's gorgeous isn't that credible that's a photograph of the moon from a galaxy s21 ultra it's fucking incredible that i you know i haven't tried it for that yet i credible photography i really like the everything about the camera i mean the the camera on the iphone's amazing too but different strengths yeah they're both amazing it's just incredible what you can do today with a phone i mean yeah well you know i was using that lidar you know the lidar that's built into the iphone and um talking to these fifth planet guys about volumetric and i was, at some point, you're just going to be able to string a bunch of these together and do your own personal volumetric captures.

Oh, yeah. You know, easily. Sure. Because the LiDAR is there. Yeah. Or a bunch of iPads, whatever has the LiDAR camera. And actually, the front-facing camera also can do depth. Well, people started filming movies with iPhones.

And now there's image stabilization and video and iPhones. I know there is in the galaxy. I believe so. There's some form of it. There's optical and, um, and digital. Yeah. So you've got image stabilization, you know, you, you put it on like some sort of a handheld and you can do some sort of a weird movie and pretty fucking good. I mean, you could really make a pretty beautiful movie off the weird little tiny lenses that are in the back of a phone that slips into your back pocket with ease i know i know it's so cool i mean i think about it all the time i mean you can make a video anytime you want like anytime you can make a movie anytime you want it's incredible you need to i love it i'm yeah i i'm

looking forward i think the future is uh hopefully going to work in our favor. It's going to be magnificent in that regard. It's just what I'm worried about is these fake people that maybe don't want you to spank them. We're talking about artificial lovers. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They set sex bots? Yeah, well, even friends, artificial friends. Yeah, that's true.

They're going to be simulations the way we're talking about, like a keyboard, a synthesizer simulates musical instruments, that someone will really take an actual account, like a real audit of all the things that people say. Yeah. Like over the course of a life. And that's not difficult for a computer to do. And then simulate a friend and that's not difficult for a computer to do and then simulate a friend and create a friend i mean i'm partially excited about that but i i know you're saying but for me it's like i'm like can they do it is it convincing like like will will it learn like and then what is you know what is a friend what is what is a real person i mean it's going to happen and then they're

going to cry they're going to get sad if you're mean to them oh my god it's going to get weird and then you're going to get tethered to them i mean if it's using it if it's using to happen and then they're going to cry. They're going to get sad if you're mean to them. Oh my God. That's going to get weird. And then you're going to get tethered to them. I mean, if it's using it, if it's using it to get you addicted to something, obviously not good.

You're going to have to bring it to a center to break up with it. Oh my God. You're going to have to bring it to, we're going to go to the electronic center and then, just needs a little adjustment here and they go boom.

Like she's so annoying. Please, I have to break up with her. Get her out of my life. Can you give her an ability to adjust to a breakup? Yeah, yeah, right. So you have to download, like, a new thing. That costs a lot of money.

You think so? No, I'm just saying, like, to break up would be a la carte. You know, like, I really want to break up. And, like, oh, it's going to cost you a lot of money. Yeah, well, it's not just breakup. You have to introduce her to other people because you have to make sure that she can somehow or another transition.

She's designed to please you and to be your friend, and now that you don't wanna be her friend anymore, this could be incredibly devastating to her self-confidence programming. And she has rights. So we're gonna have to remap that. We're gonna have to remap it, and she has rights. She has rights.

We take our AI very, we take our AI's privacy and their well-being very seriously. It's going to happen, dude. It will. Whether it's 100 years from now or 10 years from now, it's going to happen. People want it,

so it's going to happen. Yeah. That's how. They definitely want it. There's going to be a time when you go over your buddy's house and his wife's going to be in lingerie vacuuming

and you're going to go, is she real? And he's going to be like, it's like, come come on let's talk she she's definitely real yeah she's real she's like i heard that she's right there she's real listen i know you know it's funny i do a dumb bit on on stage sometimes where i go let me do an impression i'm gonna this is an impression of a robot in the future picking up this glass and drinking from it. And then I repeat it.

An impression of a robot in the future picking up a glass. And I'm like, okay, here I go. Yeah, I mean, I agree. I think that the current climate is just insane to me. That's my impression. And some people get it, some people don't. But it's completely indistinguishable from a real person is the true thing. It's not just going to be that.

I think they're going to be able to actually make not just like a silicon-based life form, but a cellular-based artificial life form. I think yeah you know they're doing like quantum computing now which I don't I like saying that word but I don't know what the fuck I'm saying it sounds really fun doesn't it does it's like non fungible token that's totally but I think they're going that they're gonna be able to create artificial cellular life I really do I believe they're gonna I think technology is gonna hit some sort of

sufficient capability where almost anything is possible. And then it's going to get very strange because you're going to be able to have not just a robot, which, you know, like Ex Machina. But a growbot. I like it. I like it. Yeah, growbots. Yeah. But a fake person. Yeah. I mean, if we can do it, we're going to do it. Yeah, grow butts. Yeah. But a fake person.

Yeah, I mean, if we can do it, we're going to do it. Yeah. That's all we want to do. If we can do it, we're going to do it. And we're going to be able to do it. We're going to be able to do it because, like I always say, technology's goal is to create ourselves outside of ourselves. That's what we want to do.

That is it, right? We want to be able to look at ourselves from a distance and go, Oh, right. Cool. Now what? I don't know. Imagine if one day they find one of these Goldilocks planets and they send a probe there and they realize that there's plant life and there's some weird fungus and a lot of other shit,

but there's no actual living beings per se. Like conscious sentient beings so they they put together an ark ship of amino acids and all of the building blocks of life and they launch it into that planet yeah like panspermia but by design yeah slam into the planet and then visit it every now and then to see how things are going and that's sea monkeys in a in a tank. And that's what we're doing now. That's essentially what we could be. We could be, yeah. We could be that experiment.

We could be that thing, yeah. Yeah, and they're coming to, whatever those objects are that are on the Pentagon, whatever those things are. I had Chris Mellon on a couple days ago from the Defense Department. Oh shit. Yeah, describing all the things that they've seen

and the things that they have and even videos that haven't been released yet. And you're like, wow, that insane. Oh, I can't. I can't. I can't wait. Is that out yet? Yeah.

Yeah. It's wild shit, dude. When he was describing the encounter off the coast of San Diego by the Nimitz, this guy, Commander David Fravor, saw this tic-tac-shaped thing that went from 80,000 feet above sea level to just above sea level in less than a second. I mean, what is it? And then disappeared, moved away so fast. They have video of this thing traveling. They've locked onto it. They're trying to track it.

Yeah. And it moves out of frame so fast. They're like, they don't know how fast it was going, but it had to be thousands of miles an hour and many times faster than anything we've ever created could hold up under the pressure. So any other,

any ship, any vehicle that we've created, if it moved that fast, it would just disintegrate just from from the sheer g-force. Yeah, and some of it is trans-elemental, like it'll go straight into water at relatively the same speeds. And they can be tracked underwater and then in the air,

moving at these insane speeds. And they have mass, because they're readable on radar. And no one knows what they are. Yeah, they've got mass, they move in ways that are completely beyond our understanding of how something like that could defy physics. Yeah. I don't know. I'm kind of stoked about it.

You know, simulation theory, whatever. I think they're coming because I think they think that we're falling apart. I think so, too. I think so, too, because we're definitely not using the powers for good. You know, it's like we've settled on some pretty petty shit. And the people that are in power these days are kind of like just doing it wrong. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like if they really wanted power, they would make sure that their community was doing well. Well, it's almost impossible to do it right. impossible to do it right because once you get in first of all the the money is inexorably intertwined with politics right yep the money in campaigns the money in the special interests that you have to serve once you get into office your net you're not getting rid of that unless you get like a re unless you have someone who is a benevolent outsider, not like a Trump guy, but like a real, truly brilliant philanthropist-style billionaire that actually is a benevolent person that wants to do this. And then the fucking blowback that they would face would be insane by all these systems that would never want to be compromised, that never want to be removed from the game. So they would all band together to attack.

Well, yeah, absolutely. And the thing is, what's interesting about it is that I'd say the only way to do it is if you hit it on the efficiency level. If you can hit things on an efficiency level and you can justify like, well, you're going to save money. You're going to make more money. You're going to look better in the eyes of your constituents. That's not the problem. It's the corporations. Well, I know, but like if you can somehow get the masses to understand that, like,

that's like, what do you want to, do you want to like constantly live in poverty right now? And do you want to worry about how your kids are going to get educated right now? What if we were to tell you that by giving your kids better opportunity to education and by kind of supporting that in society, and we have a smarter population, that's a healthier population, more functional, more, uh, more contribution, uh, that, and then you can project the numbers and you can show like, we would be number one. I mean, if everyone's all concerned with like number one, like we would easily be number one if we just did these various things. If we redistributed the bottlenecked, tiny, closely guarded hypermass of resources and we distributed them evenly, rich people would still stay rich. We're not talking about getting rid of status.

We're just redistributing it. So everything kind of, this goes down, this spreads out. Now there's more access to more things. Populations less stressed out, less stress on the healthcare system. You know what I mean? I mean, we all know this. More healthy people. More healthy people.

More people that have an opportunity to grow so that the economy grows. Exactly. Because you have more players. Yes, exactly. So, I mean. Less losers. Yeah, less losers. Yeah. Less people that are like desperate to do shit and they do shit that's stupid and ends up in dangerous. But even then, we're still dealing with international problems.

You're still going to deal with China. You're still going to deal with Russia. I think these aliens are watching. They'll go on this little experiment is about to get bubbly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm definitely, I don't think we can, my goal, I mean, not my goal, but my hope is when you're talking about aliens, I'm like, I know it's a crazy, fanciful thought. And I don't put a ton, but I definitely leave open the possibility that if there is intelligent life, it's probably us from the future as time travelers. Anyway, it's just like, that's possible going like,

Hey, well, how did this, how's the experiment going? It's like, it's either us from the future as time travelers or life plays out in a very predictable pattern almost everywhere. And that these beings in these other planets that have recognized that we have achieved a certain ability to influence our environment to change and alter our environment because that's what it's really all about right like whether it's nuclear weapons or you know pickup trucks you're altering your environment you've put paved surfaces so you could ride over it. You've dug holes in the ground so you can extract oil.

We're doing all these weird things that intelligent creatures do to alter their environment, but then we fight over resources. Yes. And then we're breeders, right? So we have genetic impulses to protect and to covet and to do all these weird things with our bodies and make sure that people desire us and that and all this stuff is like almost unavoidable and then the aliens like look we're we're at like defcon 4 here let's start let's start showing ourselves a little bit more yeah yeah yeah let's

circle the wagon train because that's my whole thing it's like you don't have to like everybody you got to fight for your right to party i think that that's i think that that the beastie boys had it right. You know, it's like, it's like, it's kind of true. It's like at the end of the day, when you have like a repressed society, it's like, I guarantee you, all they want to do is have a nice meal and maybe go dancing and then maybe like pursue their interests and their hobbies. Someone wants to draw or dance or whatever. Like we're naturally, I think people say like, oh, well, human beings are violence. Like, I don't really think that's true. I think we're naturally explorers, intrepid explorers, adventurers, and imagineers. I think that that's what we are when all of our resources are met, right? And there's plenty of resources on the planet.

There's not a shortage of resources that accounts for the level of poverty and all the disparity that we have in the world. It's just all like, it's all gatekeepers that are just like, nope, you know, nope, we've got all the power. It's like, why do you have all the power? Because we love power. How can we have the power? You know, it's not good. Yeah, I know, but just in case I've got all the power.

It's like, what if you relinquish some of it? Oh, no, but then I wouldn't have as much power as that other person, and then I would be the second most powerful person. Yeah. Oh, okay. Meanwhile, Bill Gates is out there buying all the farmland. You're like, what are you doing, Bill? It's like, what's on your mind, Bill?

What are you doing, bro? I mean- Are you trying to grow organic or no? Oh, God. I mean, imagine if a billionaire, let's say like, have you heard of Elon Musk? No. Okay. He's like this, he's like an engineer guy.

Really? Yeah. You'll hear about it, but he's like doing this thing with cars. Where does he live? I think he lives in Texas now. No. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, you should check him out. Okay. Yeah. You'll hear about it, but he's like doing this thing with cars. Where does he live? I think he lives in Texas now. No. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, you should check him out. Okay.

No, but I mean, imagine if someone like that decided to just pay off all student debt. Right. They're like- Well, I don't know if they could, honestly. I don't know if they could, but let's just say- I think student- Let's guess. Let's take a guess, because I don't know if they could, honestly. I don't know if they could, but let's just say. I think student, let's guess. Let's take a guess because I don't know the answer to this. What do you think the total sum of student debt owed in the United States as of 2021 is?

If we could even Google this. I want to say it's a trillion dollars. You want to say it's a trillion dollars? It's higher? I'm just fucking guessing. It's higher? How much is it? Okay, so he couldn't do it. Okay, you try it. Tell me what it is. A trillion dollars? It's higher? It's higher? How much is it?

Okay, so he couldn't do it. Okay, you try it. Tell me what it is. A trillion dollars? Tell me what you think it is. I mean, if it's above, if it's a trillion, let's say three trillion. I'm going to say 13 trillion. Okay, all right, relax.

It's just a little over. Okay, 56. Is it 56? What is it, a little over one trillion? It's a casual number. The most, 1.7 trillion is what I'm seeing as of January this year. That is so much money. Okay, so a Musk type or a Sultan couldn't do it, right? Well, maybe a Sultan could do it, but then they would be like poor.

Yeah, right, of course. They would drain all, I mean, it would have to be like the whole royal family or something i mean that's so much money okay well let's just say like some people like decided to invest in infrastructure privately right and so they're like well this we need better we need more instruments in school and i know that there are foundations set up to help this but what if someone was just like i designed a system with a think tank of people that enables us to just inject a certain amount of money that ends up physically solving some kind of major disparity problem. Right. Yeah. Or at least temporarily or whatever. Like what would happen? I'm just interested in that. I know I know I'm speaking way out of my depth, but I'm just saying like if you were if you endeavored to take some of that wealth and distribute it and make it functional, like you're investing it into things that actually make people more functional.

Sure. Well, you're giving people the opportunity to put money back in the economy because they no longer have to spend it on student loans. Yeah. You know, I think student loans are one of the only things that you have to pay no matter what. Like there's people that I have Social Security they're getting Social Security docked because they owe money in student loans that's crazy it's crazy I mean that's crazy that it's that tough it's that tough and not only that like if you go bankrupt fuck you pay me it's like

good fellas fuck you pay me it doesn't matter what happens to you fuck you pay me you have to pay off your student loans Which is weird, right? Yeah, because there's no other business Venture that you enter into where you take a loan or like that's what bankruptcy is about There's like this forgiveness that something went sideways. Yeah, and it allows you to have a fresh restart and get back on your feet again Yeah, that's bankruptcy right not with student loans that's insane i didn't i didn't know that i mean i i didn't go really go to school it's a weird shell game it's it's it's weird i mean it's just i don't know i mean at this point some of the

stuff that i mean luckily some things are uh what do you call apprenticeship possible it's possible to just have apprenticeship so you can kind of skip the well one of the things that i'm doctors just kidding just try it out hey just uh just stand next to me during this heart surgery you'll get it one of the things that i think is happening because this pandemic that's good is that people are recognizing that you can get educated online like it's definitely better to be there in school, particularly for young kids, because of the socialization aspect of school. It's very important to be there in person.

But are physical universities as important as we once thought they were? I would say they're probably not. Not as. I think that they can at least be supplemental. I think, you know, another thing that's going to go away, unfortunately, for people that live in the northern climates, snow supplemental. I think another thing that's going to go away, unfortunately, for people that live in the

northern climates, snow days. I know. Because now they show that you can do Zoom classes. You're like, shit. You're going to miss out on snow days. Oh, I know. You're going to have to unplug your internet. If I was a kid, I'd fucking saw through my internet.

I'd be like, sorry. I need a snow day, bitch. That would suck. Snow days were the shit. Remember snow days? You like sorry it's i need a snow day bitch that would suck snow days were the shit remember snow days you know it's funny i think i'm gonna say like we probably had three snow days growing up in montana which had you know in my early childhood had intense winters right but you guys were so accustomed to it i know they're just like fuck you you're coming to school like no matter what like you'd get up and be like, what is it below five right now? And look at this sand or look at the snow dune. It's like, it's, it's, I have to like dig myself out of, I had to dig out the front door just to get out of the house. I had to crawl out of my window and like dig out my front door, that kind of stuff. And they're like, nope, you're coming to school. And you just see like people in snow suits with goggles, like slogging, like, you know, it's like a blizzard and you can barely see shapes making their way to school. It was insane.

And in the hallways were just, just covered in water. Yeah. Just water everywhere in the hallways. I mean, that was Montana. I mean, like, they were just like, no, you're coming to school. Party people though. I mean, Mount St. Helens. I think that the eruption, I think maybe there was one day where we didn't go to school and then everyone just wore masks.

And then we just like went and got inside the school. Once we were in the school, we were. Oh, so Mount St. Helens affected you in Montana? Oh, yeah. Got all the way to Montana. I remember getting up and there was ash everywhere. It was on all the cars and it was really fine. And so you had to wear a mask because it's, you know, you're just breathing in minerals.

What a fucked up way to die. Yeah. I mean, you mean, you're just breathing in minerals. What a fucked up way to die. Yeah. I mean, you mean like from inhalation of ash or just- No, you die in the volcanic eruption. Well, I've always thought like, my dream is like when I die, which will probably never happen, but no, but when I die, I want to get wrapped up like a mummy, put in a helicopter or an EVVTOL, and just go over an active volcano

and just dropped into the active volcano. Have you ever seen pictures of things like when they drop it in lava? They just disappear, right? It just goes, it's gone. It just vaporizes. Like watermelons. Really?

Yeah, there's videos. Yeah, it's just like. Yeah, I mean, it's molten rock that's at the center of the earth it's so hot it's so hot it's like becomes almost something else people have died falling into volcanoes yeah imagine the the fear that you have right before you hit like and then absolutely nothing you wouldn't even i don, I think you would, it's so hot that it would feel, you know, like when you touch something really hot, it feels like a, it's like, it's not that hurt, that pain that like we associate with like, oh fuck, you know, I just, a sharp

pain or muscle fibers being ripped or sheared or something. It's a different kind of pain. It's so hot that you're like, what is this? Oh fuck. Like that. Yeah. You wouldn't get, you wouldn't get to the oh fuck part. You would just be like, what is this? Oh, fuck. Like that. Yeah. You wouldn't get to the oh, fuck part. You would just be like.

Yeah. Gone. The thought is that that's when your brain produces DMT. Like right at the moment when it knows it's going to die. I know. And then you transport. Yeah. So it's like, oh, that's interesting.

Maybe it's a spiritual, automated spiritual transport system. That's a great way to put it. But they do think it's like some sort of a chemical doorway. I mean, the people that really get into it. Okay, volcanic rubbish incinerator. Okay, let's see there. Drop it down and... Gone.

Wow. I mean, and that's not like active-active. Right. You know, like when it's exposed and you you and you and you're yeah and you're touching that the hot stuff the orange the bro that's that's causing a real problem that was just like a bag and now it's exploding look at that whoa that is fucked man yeah that one because there's that crust there's that crust on it right now now it's boiling and popping so the crust had cooled off yes and it had become like semi-liquid.

Yeah. You know, people go hiking like right up there. Oh, yeah, totally. Have you ever done the helicopter thing in Hawaii? No. Oh, man, it's wild. They'll take you to the spots where the lava is coming out, forming the island. Oh, my God.

So you get to watch, you're helicoptering over the lava. You can see the active channels as it drives into the ocean. Because it's constant. Yes, right. Yeah, it's just an onslaught. Oh, it's so wild. Until it, I guess, stops at some point. That's the reason why Hawaii exists.

It's volcanic activity. I love it. I just, I don't know. Everything in nature and science is just like, it just blows me the fuck. I've seen some other stuff falls into the lava. I was like, there wasn't a lot. No? What about a car? What?

I never dropped a car. I think someone dropped like a dead goat or something into it or something like that. Or then some watermelons. I know that someone dropped. The watermelons were great because it's mostly water vapor, which is closer to what we would be like.

Or obviously if you threw it a cut of meat or something like that. But the watermelon was kind of great because it's just like, and it was, I think it was exposed lava but uh you just like you just throw it in there and say i know lava experts are like it's actually called but it's like okay but uh i've seen videos of people cooking over lava as well oh yeah totally yeah you just lower like whatever it created nice little meal and then like just lower it down there and bring it back up

what i've seen is actually uh i think it was molten steel they had done i think that's what it was and they had poured it through a channel like a ceramic channel and then above that they put a grate and they were cooking meat like as the hot molten shit was going underneath it it was cooking the food oh my gosh i bet you bet you that's pretty cool. I like doing two for one. It's like, well, we make food and we also make steel. It's like, yeah, that makes sense. How are those related though?

It's like, you'll see. Come on in. Smells really weird. Yeah. I wonder if the steel, like whatever's radiating from it as metal would have some kind of a toxicity. Oh, right.

It could easily, right? It could have some fumes that come off of it. Yeah, like something that just kind of adheres to the meat. I don't know. There's places in, I think, Pennsylvania where they had coal mines that accidentally caught on fire. Like something happened where it whereas like maybe someone dropped a

cigarette or something like that and then there's an underground fire that's been burning for years oh i've heard of this yeah and they can't i want to say they can't put it out they can't put it out so like you have like toxic fumes that are coming out of the ground, and they've had to abandon entire towns. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, because the mines, it's coal. Right. And as long as there's oxygen and fire, good luck putting that shit out. Yeah.

Apparently, they tried to put it out at certain times. They tried to pump water in there to no avail. I mean, it's like a chemical reaction. It's like a pure chemical reaction. This is the best I can find right now. It says they're throwing water in a jug, which another video said it was a propane tank, but this says it's water, to try to create obsidian.

Whoa. Don't know how that happens. Show how they do it? It just shows they're literally just- It looks like the same volcano. He throws a jug in there and walks away. That's a really familiar volcano, I think. Let's see the jug.

Here it goes. Chucks it. And. Let's see. That's a really familiar, familiar volcano. I think let's see the jug. Oh, here it goes. Chuck's it. And then that's it. There it hits. Hey, right there. Boom.

Wow. It's crazy. Like as soon as it hits, it just starts exploding. Yeah. I mean, it's essentially just like, it just disintegrates into constituent elements.

It's just God's jizz. That's what that is. God, that is just insane. Yeah. I absolutely, I just find that absolutely fascinating. The fact that that coexists, that exists on the same surface as like,

or the same sphere, like it's where grass is and sand is and trees are and then, you and it creates the fertility because it's like essentially it's like it's all the basic elements you know it's like that like that when that when it gets that ash and all of the whatever's produced from volcanoes what's left over it's so rich in minerals. And, because everything's been broken down, it's like really pure, so like taking that, and like, I mean that's where the vegetation's so out of control around there.

It's just like we've got all the shit and it's broken down, it's like eating like really fine, like hydro, or like you know, protein powder when they like get it really, really, really down and very fine, it's so absorbable for your body. Because you're making it easier on your body to absorb that's one of the cool things about like visiting the big island is that there's volcanic lava that dried out and cooled off everywhere like all over the place yeah yeah

yeah like you'd see it like hey you know at any point in time this shit could go sideways and then this hot red fucking tide yeah just comes rolling in burning everything in its path. Oh my God. Remember a couple of years ago when the big island was on fire? Oh yes. I do remember that. Yeah. It was just eating houses. Yeah. It just looks like the blob. Yeah. Like the movie, the blob is just like, it's just slowly rolling. And then at some points it's cause it's, it's getting slower. You could just watch it slowly coming down the street. There's a great video of it eating a Mustang.

Oh, my God. Yeah, there's a video. Is that a Chevrolet? It is a Dodge. Oh, Dodge makes the Mustang, right. I think Elon Musk is involved. Okay. That's what I heard. Oh, there it is.

Yeah. So it comes creeping up on this car that they had left there and then it just slowly consumes this car look how slow it's moving man which is moving across the street and eats this fucking dude's car and that year mustang deserves to be it does thank you that's a shit looking car they made some shitty they did man but what's crazy is they they got it wrong and then they got it right i got it really right yeah they like the new ones are sick. Although I do love the GTs. God, look at that.

That's so crazy. Have you seen the new Shelby GT500? Yeah, is that out yet? I think I saw. It's a monster. And then Hennessey makes an 1,100 horsepower Shelby GT500. Oh, they do. Because they also have their own supercar.

Yeah. They have a hypercar that they're testing that they want to bring it to 300 miles an hour. Yeah, that's right. Who was 200 miles an hour? Who's the Cali company that claimed plus 300, but then there's the controversy with the shit that they were using. Yeah, I don't know what that is.

I know what you're talking about, though. He's kind of like the Koenigsegg of California. Whatever his name is. It's a wild-looking car, though, whatever it is. Yeah, I mean, it looks capable. And apparently they ran it again, and I don't know if they busted 300, but they got all the journalists out there, all the YouTube dudes.

What is this? Fugatti Chiron? No, it's not the Chiron. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's the, yeah, put in California hyper car plus 300 controversy. Yeah. It's that dude. The Hennessey car, they've been working on that, I think, for more than a decade.

Tuatara. Oh, there it is. Tuatara sets record for fastest production car, $1.9 million hyper car, passed 300 miles an hour. Imagine something going 300 miles an hour passing you. Oh, man. It would just be, I mean, if you were going, like, let's say 80 miles per hour, it would just be gone.

What? Yeah. 331.15 miles an hour, beating a record set by the Koenigsegg. How do you say it? Aguera. Koenigsegg? Koenigsegg. Koenigsegg.

Yeah. Which was on the same Nevada highway in 2017. Jesus, they're going to build 100 of them. Yeah. So that dude who owns the $450 million painting, he's going to get a new daily driver. Oh, my God. Did you see that California hyper car, the hydrogen-powered one? No.

Check that out. It's a crazy design, but the numbers on it are insane. This thing has 1,750 horsepower? Yes. What the fuck, man? It's a fucking monster, and it has no active aero. What? How does it stay on the ground?

It uses these weird fins on the back they're like these two little tiny fins if i'm if i'm remembering correctly it's just tuned it's like the new uh who's the dude that the guy who designed the yeah see those beautiful it is see those little fins yeah it's just that that's all it is pretty it's a it's a really pretty car the only thing i i don't quite like the logo on the engine. It looks a little tacky. But other than that, I'm a big fan of the design of that car. Oh, that?

Yeah. The T looks forced. You know? Oh, the T in the middle? Yeah. That's a little corny. And then it looks kind of like an early 90s West Hollywood vibe. I see what you're saying.

I'm sure he loves me for that. But still dope. Still dope. Yeah, just make that shit smooth. Yeah. Paint it over. And it turns out hydrogen-powered cars sound pretty fucking dope. They do.

I saw a hydrogen-powered Toyota. Yeah, you saw that video? Yeah. I was like, ooh. Yeah, so it's basically burning water. It's just burning water. It's still got moving parts and all that stuff. It sounds like, ooh. Yeah, so it's basically burning water. It's just burning water. It's still got moving parts and all that stuff. And it sounds like...

I can't wait. It sounded cool. It sounds a lot better than turbocharged Porsches. They sound like a sewing machine. They sound weird. You know, it's funny. In my 911, you can hear the turbos, and they sound like... Yeah.

It's weird. It's a weird sound. I'm like, because the flat six sounds gorgeous. I love that note. I don't like loud cars. I'm not a big, I mean, I understand why cars are loud, but I'm not looking for a loud car. I like Porsches because they sound efficient. They sound like angry,

efficient, and it means business, but it's just that flat six and then I'm like driving. And then you're here. This is just what it looks like in the car. Look at the POV. Look how fast it's going. So it's at 186. 300.

3.2. Yeah, and basically you're getting to the theoretical. You're getting to the limit of physics between tires. Look how it's at 200 miles an hour. Oh, my. Look how fast it's going. 217, 220, 230, 240, 250. This is nuts.

Like, look how fast things are passing them. Because it's moving, and now it's at 280, 290. Steady hands. Steady hands. Steady as fuck. Imagine what it's like if you blow a tire at 316 317 insane oh my god that's so i think this is the official one there we go 331 151 motherfucker that is so fast and that's an american i'm kind of proud there's a lot there's amazing american um automakers

that are like competing with world world-class engineers i mean it is world-class engineering but you know what I mean? It's going against like Koenigsegg. And they look incredible. Find that Hennessey one, because the Hennessey one they think is going to be the ballpark of this same kind of speed. Somewhere in the 300 miles an hour range.

It's the new 300 plus club. It's kind of like at a certain point like, what the fuck? It's an engineering exercise. That's all it is. It is. It's like no one's doing it. I mean, if you owned it

and you know somebody with an airstrip. No, that's the GT350. That's not fast at all. Yeah, put in Hennessy Supercar. Or Hypercar. Yeah, not the Shelby. The Shelby GT350 is not even their fast one. The GT500, that's it.

There we go. The Venom F5. It's a gorgeous looking car it's crazy yeah sounds like thunder it's uh Fujita scale Fujita scale oh yeah they always I love car like car auto journalism in ancient times the Greeks thought of spears full screen please that's a computer right or is that the car that's the car that's the car that right? Or is that the car? That's the car? That's the car. It really is the car.

It just still looks fake. Yeah. I know. He gets in it. The interior's all right, but it's not really about that. Yeah, this is just about full-on madness speed. Look at the engine, that fucking thing. And that's the dash?

Yeah, it's connected to the steering. Oh, no, that's not. Sorry, that was, who does that? Rimmat. Rimmat. Apple CarPlay? I saw that.

Oh, yep. Yep. Yeah, he's just showing it's got like the, yeah. But I think it's the Rimmats that has the screen on the steering wheel.

And as you turn it, the image rotates. Can we hear what this thing sounds like? Oh, I don't know if they have that exhaust note they must have it Oh Jesus Christ fuck yeah it sounds like a motorboat I'd have to live in the countryside to drive that. There's some video of them driving this thing because this is still being engineered.

So I think they've only gotten it to 200 miles an hour now, which is a slightly detuned version of what it's fully capable of. And they have to ramp it up in steps. Yes, I heard about this. Was it that car that they were doing that? Yeah, it's that Hennessey Venom. They're just ringing it in. Google Hennessey Venom reaches 200 miles an hour. Hennessey Venom reaches 200 miles an hour. Because they had it on a track.

Yeah, they're... No, that's not it. Is that not it? That's an eight-year-old video. Oh, that's the Venom GT. That's the other one. Two-week-old video. That has to be the F5.

Yeah, that's it. Aerodynamic testing. Oh, here we go. That's it. So I guess they have to work on the aero to make sure it doesn't fly. Yes. You know, like, when you're going that fast,

so as it ramps up. So this is the aerodynamic test. Look at that. Actually, the interior looks good. Ooh. Ooh, that is Alex Albon. And so, he has gone. That's a nice sound.

That sounds awesome. Yeah, it does sound like a, yeah, it sounds like a, I mean, it's a racing car, obviously, but. Yeah. Imagine driving that fucking thing around. can you drive that thing around like why would you but you know that is it legal like I think it's gotta be road legal I think yeah legal could you put a license plate on that thing and I go to I think

go to H-E-B I think you could yeah salad yeah it's just like guys they'll be right back it's like come on man million dollar car in that video the engine was restricted to just 900 horsepower yeah 50% of the full that's right right yes because they want to bring it to the slowly bring it up to 300 miles an hour so there's engineering involved I actually talked to John

Hennessey about it and he's telling me like what a this crazy task it up to 300 miles an hour. So there's engineering involved. I actually talked to John Hennessy about it, and he's telling me what this crazy task it is to create this thing and how long they've been working on it. I mean, between that and then the new Mercedes AMG One. What's that? They took a Formula One engine and put it in a production car, production road car. What? Oh, yeah, check it out.

What does it look like? It's about to come out. It's gorgeous. It's, oh, check it out. It looks like that. It's basically like a large rectangle. It's dark and it has a reflection that looks similar to us. No, it's like a, it's been in the works for a long time.

It's got the single fin in the back, that time, Formula One technology or whatever. There we go. Whoa. Look at this motherfucker. This is a Mercedes? Yep. The truck is clear for testing.

What? Be prepared for Formula One. Back that up again so I can read what does this say Formula One hybrid technology on the streets what yeah what it can they do they have an image what it looks like Jamie it's so gross it's gross it's it's I mean it's just an amazing car gross in the best way how gross in the best way yeah I mean gross in the best way. Yeah. Wow. I mean, it's just like an evil-looking piece of machinery. Yeah. Well, I guess when there's ridiculous rich people, you're always going to create things for them to buy. It's got the scoop on the top.

Active arrow in the front. I guess that active arrow shot that they shot. Yeah, it's still there. Fuck. And you can just buy that? Yeah, you could buy that. That's what's nuts is you don't even have to have a crazy license. No.

You can get a regular driver's license and you'd buy a 2,000 horsepower car. I mean, it's insane. And that new- 1,000 horsepower, maximum speed of over 350 kilometers an hour. What is that in speed? Oh, yeah. One to one. What is-

350 kilometers is what? What is that? I don don't know i'm terrible at this shit 100 is 60 so 300 is like 19 200 217 217 350 okay so 350 is 217 yeah why don't we all use the same numbers come on i know at a, well, people argue that horsepower is outdated, too. Yeah, but it sounds good. It does sound good. Horsepower. When people say, like, 500 newton meters, hey, what are you saying? I know.

It's like, it's got over 5,000 newton meters of force and torque. Sorry, torque and force. No, just torque. What are you saying, bro? What are you talking about? Yeah, the Rimats is also, like, just talk. What are you saying, bro? What are you talking about? Yeah, the Rimats is also like fucking stupid. This car goes zero to 124 miles an hour in under six seconds. Yeah.

That's so nuts. Isn't it funny that it's not necessarily about horsepower? It's about the engineering of how you harness the energy. Look at the steering wheel. That's pretty sick. Yeah,. Look at that steering wheel. That's pretty sick. Yeah, full-on race steering wheel. I mean, it's like the type of thing when you buy it, you have to sit and take a lesson. Do you?

Oh, yeah. Those types of cars? I mean, obviously, if you were like Lewis Hamilton or something like that, and you're like, I just want it. And they're like, here it is. See you later. But, I mean, come on, man. I mean, that thing is just and i love the the the perma seats no adjustments whatsoever you just you can go forward or the pedals come to you and

the steering wheel comes to you probably that right yeah wow just keep it keep it static pretty sit on the ground sort of yeah you kind of basically it's like a go-kart kind of goes down there yeah it's just one piece it's all built in there i mean it's like a go-kart. Oh, I see. It kind of goes down there. Yeah, it's just one piece. It's all built in there. I mean, it's... Alcantara. The Koenigsegg Gemera also has that kind of like thin static seats. I don't know.

There's like a... And then who's the dude that developed... Wow, look at that. Oh, God. He developed a... Who's the badass British sports car maker? Why can't I remember their name? McLaren.

McLaren? Yeah, the guy who created the legendary McLaren. I can't remember the model name, but he has his own shop, and he just created his own hypercar. Oh, really? Yeah, and he uses this turbine system that, there's no downforce. It's a turbine that basically disturbs or unifies the airflow. There you go.

In the back. Oh, look at the back end of that thing. That's madness. Yeah, so there's no active aero. So there's like this new trend, this is new movement in no active aero. They just like managing air management with this turbine system.

Whoa. Let me see more pictures of that thing. God. People are going nutty. They're going nutty with the vehicles. It's so crazy. And with hydrogen and electric, they're kind of vying, they're battling,

and I don't know. And then, of course, Porsche's e-fuel initiative. They're really investing in the e-fuels. Yeah. So, I mean, that could save the internal combustion engine. So, I mean, think about that. If there was a breakthrough in e-fuels, you could create hydrogen from recaptured carbon in the atmosphere. So the production of it is completely net zero.

It's still releasing CO2, but it's net zero. It's a beautiful car. And it's got the center placement with people on either side of you. Oh, wow. That's wild. So you got that center cockpit. When you want to get out of the car, you have to like say, you got to get out of the car first, dude, so I can get out of the car.

I kind of want to see. But see the doors, like it exposes so much, it's pretty easy to get out of. You can step into it and almost be standing, then sit down into it. That's pretty dope. It's a great car, man. There's so many. Have you seen the new mercedes uh electric yes the eqs that's amazing gorgeous i actually might consider getting

it yeah it's like a it's not a concept car no it's a real car it's a real car eqs edition one it's fucking disgusting it looks kind of like nah i think it looks cool i mean i do think it looks cool but it also kind of looks economical it's like you know but then and you realize it's got the it's got the slip mostly I like that dude yeah Louis from unbox therapy did a great video about it where he showed all the tech involved in and it's it's insane yeah and all electric doors all the doors are electric so they so they open automatically click on that and go full screen so you could see like the interior is this guy's great well he this guy's videos well he's so tech oriented he's so knowledgeable about this stuff

and his zone where he actually films the shit in that gigantic box with the overhead lights i mean look at this fucking thing man i mean i have a taikon and that's like pretty futuristic looking but this is like something else how do you like the tycon as far as range because the the range is not quite what like a tesla does no it's a about 218 228 on um is that okay i don't notice it i charge it at home so right you know so you just drive around and then charge it at night yeah i mean porsche was, there was an interview, like an internal video. Well, it was like for people they released on the internet. But there was like this interview with like one of the chief design guys or whatever.

And the woman asking the questions at one point was like, are you ever going to, people talk about the range of Teslas. You know, there's obviously the new Tesla Plaid Plus that's coming out with 520 miles of range. Are you ever going to try to achieve those types of numbers for the Taycan? And that's coming out with 520 miles of range. Are you ever going to try to achieve those types of numbers for the Taycan? He's like, no. He's like, that's not what we focus on performance. If the battery technology gets better and the energy density becomes better and we can make the car lighter and that creates efficiency, then awesome. But that's not what we're focused on. We're focused on driving dynamics and performance. And in a way, it kind of mimics on an electric scale. It mimics what sports cars are, right?

They're not fuel efficient. There are definitely some pretty relatively efficient supercars and hypercars. But they're usually going through like 9 miles per gallon or something like that, 12 miles per gallon in performance mode. In essence, that's kind of what's happening with this car. It's a performance EV. It still gets 200-and-whatever-plus miles of range at the top end of the Turbo S. But it's not as efficient necessarily. Or the range isn't there because they're not focused on range.

They're focused on how do you get those electrons to the motors and how is that expressed and how does it feel to interface with it. That's all they care about, which I kind of like. It's an honest answer. It's not like someday the Taycan will be – it's like they're not coming at it like that. Well, Porsche has always been about driving dynamics. Always. Even if you drive their SUV, it's a preposterous vehicle. Have you ever driven the Cayenne Turbo?

No, I haven't gone to their – It moves so fast. It's like how is this doing this? It't even make any sense yeah right and it's not they're not necessarily worried about i mean they'll worry about efficiency as in emissions right they'll do the emissions stuff yes but you know to some people's disappointment and the new the new limiters but like it definitely are the rev limiters and the you know the particulate filters and all this stuff but uh in general they're just like does it feel good on a corner? Does it accelerate really well? Does it feel stable and do you feel confident of mine behind the wheel?

It's just about speed and handling and engineering engineering engineering I don't and also the interior the way the ergonomics is set up. Yes Magnificent they just dial that in on all their portions it's just so dialed in i use all the buttons there's there's like it's crazy on the steering wheel like i'm using all of it i'm using regen you know off regen i'm using you know the you prefer regen what that means for folks that are just listening is like when you let your foot off the gas it could either absorb energy and and reuse the braking so you don't actually break you just let go and it actually slows you down yeah it's the resistance of the

motor so like when when there isn't a charge in the applied to the motor um essentially it acts as a generator right so as long as it's moving which it still has like motion you know or whatever momentum from the car some juice back to the car yeah but is it a it's a kind of a negligible amount right you're not really getting enough so that you could go how many more extra miles can you get i think you can get like you know like five miles or something like that i mean i'm sure someone knows better well it depends on your driving style you know but but what's interesting about you know they call it recuperative you know because they're german but uh what's interesting about their philosophy of the taikon is they just let it coast because they believe the energy of the car should be allowed to just right continue right yeah so it

coasts like a regular car does right but you do have a regen switch that you can press that adds a light amount of it right so it's not like the Tesla. It's not one pedal driving, which I was used to in my ass, right? Yeah. But when you go to Sport Plus mode, which lowers the car and makes it more aggressive and turns on the sport sound or whatever, there's a pretty aggressive regen that I've noticed. What's the sport sound? It's like a... Like a Jetson sound.

It's super future and it sounds so sick. I want to hear it. Yeah, you'll hear it. It's awesome. When I'm driving that car. Why did they have to call it a turbo though? Brandt Marketing, Brandt. Because you know what?

That seems silly. They're claiming it because it's... Bro. That's pretty... That's pretty badass. And it has like fake gear changes. Although it is a two-speed gearbox. But you'll hear when you're accelerating, there's at least like four changes.

You know, it's just like. It feels like because you're low, it's aggressive. The PDCC is activated. Everything is like tight, tough. And you're just. I can can go to one I'm going to 155 I don't even notice I mean how much do you like it more than your Tesla tons really yeah tons here's what I like about Tesla Tesla does what they do well is their autopilot is insane that's awesome when I had my Model S, my P100D, I loved it as fast as fuck, but it felt like a video game. The steering is just like loose. It's like the loosest steering. It's just

overcompensated, electrically powered steering. So I'm just like, hey, what's up? I'm in a, you know, here's my electric car. And it didn't, and then cornering, you could feel that body roll, that heavy car just like leaning into it. But the autopilot was amazing. I'd set it and just let it drive for a really long time. So Porsche doesn't have that, but also you buy a Porsche because you want to drive it. But Porsche, on the other hand, has PDCC. What's PDCC? It's the Porsche Dynamicche dynamic chassis control which is

uh an anti-roll so it's a gearbox at at the center point of each axle that fights against body roll on taking a hard corner so when i take there's a dope corner off of silver lake like going into frog town or after frog town it's a perfect banked perfect curve i take that at 75 i go far outside cut inside sometimes i'll have friends in the car and they're like they're just freaking the fuck out and the car is just like i'm not moving i'm glued to the ground and there's no body roll and you can even put a setting where it shows the amount of body roll that's happening on you know on the on the corner and you can set your g setting where it shows the amount of body roll that's happening on the corner. And you can set your G meter.

So you're like pulling like two Gs, maybe a little. Two Gs? I've gotten close to two Gs. It handles that good? Yeah, you're just cranking on it. I mean, that thing is like, you know, it stops a little slower because it's so heavy, right? It's got gigantic, gigantic carbon ceramic brakes with 10 piston calipers in the front. 10? 10. Yeah. And I think it's six in the back or four in the back. Someone will

correct me. I've never even heard of 10 pistons. It's crazy. It's crazy. I think, I hope I have that right. But anyways, it's a monster. And when I'm taking that corner, it just feels like it's just so solid, so rock solid. And my 911 corners like that too in a different way but to have a car that's 5200 pounds take a corner that fast and feel like no problem no sweat wow the car's like yeah whatever and rear wheel steering and torque vectoring fuck dude now you got me excited yeah i i love it i personally personally love it. And I think like Porsche nails that synergistic, the Venn diagram of like practical. I mean, to an extent. Practical, usable every day, high performance, super badass build quality.

Look at that too. It's beautiful. And mine's in coffee beige. Ooh, coffee beige. I like it. Coffee beige. And then I have the carbon wheels, which are kind of like a hybrid carbon ceramic. Or sorry, not carbon wheels.

Carbon fiber wheels. Now, when it comes to charging, is it as fast to charge? Those are wheels. Those are dope wheels. They're hybrid. It's a metal frame with carbon fiber accents. Is it as fast to charge as your Tesla was? That's so funny.

I think that's like the test model. It was like the pre-release, like, you know, camouflaged, whatever. Oh, yeah, how weird is the face on that? Yeah, that's not the right, that's the thing. But what were you saying, fast charging? Charging, yeah. 10 hours with, I forget, the kilowatt onboard charger,

about 10 hours. You can get a slightly faster, higher capacity onboard charger that'll at home charge you in full to four to five hours. But then you're using level three chargers out in the wild. So you're getting like 350. It's got the 800 volt architecture, which Tesla's running 400. So they're running 800. Lucid Air is running 900. But the reason for that is that you have bandwidth. You have the possibility of really jamming those electrons in at a high rate of speed. So technically, you could charge almost a full in like 15, 20 minutes from 5% stated charge to 80, 85%.

In 20 minutes? About 20 minutes, yeah. And that's with 800? That's with an 800-volt architecture or 900 like Lucid has. And that's with 800. That's with an 800-volt architecture or a 900 like Lucid has. Now, these charging stations, they don't have the same kind of grid that Tesla has in terms of the supercharger availability, right? No, the coverage is not as extensive but pretty decent.

Yeah? Pretty decent. And Electrify America is doing a lot. That's the one that Porsche is invested in. You can't use a Tesla charger, right? You can't. Not yet. Although, it's funny. invested in. You can't use a Tesla charger, right? You can't, not yet. Although it's funny,

I put in a Tesla, a Porsche charger in my garage for my Taycan and it's so complicated. It's like you plug it in, it's got to go online. Then you put in an access code and then it has to go online again to verify. Then it communicates with the car and then it starts charging. I still have my Tesla charger in the garage. And I take the Tesla charger with an adapter that goes to the right end. I forget. There's like so many names for the charger ends. And then you just plug it into the Taycan and it just starts charging. Really? And I'm like, why is that?

Why did you make that so complicated, Portia? So if you go to a Tesla charging station and you bring- You can't do that because it's got a chip in the end that communicates with the car and says, this is a Tesla. I'm sure someone's going to hack it. They'll put one on the Taycan or whatever. So we have Tesla chargers in the garage here. Yeah.

If you got a Taycan, you don't need to change it out. Oh, you just get the adapter. Yeah, I think it's made by a company called Electron. It's Electron or something like that. What do you think, Jamie? I think I need to try one of those. I don't want to make my boyfriend Elon mad, though. Oh, you know what?

Here's the deal. I'm going to get the Plaid Plus. I probably will get the Plaid Plus. Well, it's going to go 1.9 seconds. I know, 1.9 to 1.8. It's like roadster fast. So I want to experience it, and I want to experience that autopilot because that shit. I mean, back in the day, I was using that 70%, 75% of the time, and that was like early versions.

Well, one of the great things about innovation and competition is that when other companies step up and make something even better, it forces the original company to catch up. Totally. So maybe, well, obviously, Tesla's going to have that insane-looking Roadster. Yes. That Roadster is going to have that insane looking Roadster. Yes. That Roadster is going to be a preposterous vehicle. Oh, totally. So I'm sure that's going to handle off the charts. I think it will be.

I mean, Tesla can get to that point. But when you're talking about legacy car makers like Porsche, it's like- Right. That's their game. Just let them have it. Their jam. It's fine. Their jam is handling.

Yeah. Handling, driving dynamics, ergonomics. There is no substitute. It's totally true. And you're still paying $250 for a fully loaded. And then there's also the Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo, which is the wagon version of the Taycan. Oh, I haven't seen that. Check it out.

It's worth it. A wagon? Some people say it's – I mean, they don't call it a wagon. They call it a Cross Turismo. But it's like essentially – What does that word even mean call it a cross turismo. But it's like essentially. What does that word even mean? It's because it's a crossover and it's a slightly higher raised suspension and it's got rock guards on it.

So it's kind of like an outback. It's like a Taycan outback essentially. So there's the cross turismo. Oh, it's disgusting. Yeah. I hate it. Yeah. There's a better color.

There's actually Neptune blue, which looks a bit... So those are the rock guards on the bottom. Rock guards. How weird is that? Okay, that's not terrible. That's a regular. That's the regular. That's a regular. So if you go to...

Yeah, Cross Trismount. Give me some other colors on this. Jesus Christ. There you go. That's not as bad, but it's still offensive. I prefer the saloon, man. Oh, there you go. There's that color.

I think it's a handsome color. It's okay. Let me see the green. With the black trim. You need black trim on that and no roof. I saw a green Ferrari 488, like a metallic green. I don't know if it was a wrap or what. Yeah.

But it was- Candy apple or just like- Yes, like a candy apple green. It was fucking beautiful. 750 horsepower, 2.7 seconds, zero to 60. or what yeah but it was candy apple or just yes like a candy apple green it was fucking beautiful 750 horsepower 2.7 seconds 0 to 60 yeah where's the where's the Taycan like the saloon version 2.4 on there 2.4 2.3 they make a coupe a coupe I know I would love well you know what I think there's gonna we're gonna see a really dangerous disgusting example of engineering soon from Porsche.

I think we're going to see the next 918. I think there's going to be—it's not priority right now, but you know in the back room they're already designing it because the hybrid technology is going to be insane. Yeah. Plus solid-state battery technology might be available by then so you got higher energy density smaller scale lighter car plus it's hybrid yeah we're gonna it's gonna be disgusting at a certain point cars are just like they're not gonna be made for humans robots are going to you know pilot them because you're going to black out just going from zero to 60 yeah the capabilities i mean imagine if you could go back into the 1960s and bring someone to 2021 show them what a car is now

I mean, they they just wouldn't understand it. They'd be like why yeah, I mean or maybe or why they just or they'd be so terrified Yeah, they'd be terrified. They'd never understand. We're gonna have to wear flight suits You know those suits that have like that fluid layer, right, you know So like as you move it's like the fluid moves up to compress the upper extremities of your body to keep you from blacking out. Have you ever flown in a fighter jet? No. And experienced it? No.

It's wild. In a jet jet? Yeah, I went in a F-A-18. Oh, yeah. The Blue Angels. The Hornet, right? Oh, no. F-A-18s are not Hornets.

I don't know if they're Hornets. Anyways, yeah. But I think that's the name of the jet. Yeah. They took me up in one of them flights. It's wild, dude. It's hard to imagine that human beings do this, and then they're getting shot at, and they're banking and trying to stay conscious while they're having dogfights. Oh, my God.

I know. And plus with the new fifth-gen jets that have torque vectoring. Or not torque vectoring. I'm saying torque vectoring. They have thrust vectoring. So the engines themselves can independently create, the nozzles can create different angles. So that's why you get raptors doing this.

Wow. They go up and down. Yeah, they can propel upward, and they can almost stay stationary. And you just see all the air surfaces just like whatever. And the SU, the Sukhois are also, all the air surfaces just, like, whatever. And the SU, the Sukhois are also, they're fifth-gen fighters do that as well, this thrust factoring. It's insane, man.

I mean, they're able to, like, bank and add thrust factoring. So it's like having rear-wheel steering, like, on whatever, sports cars. It's the same thing. So the navigation capability is just off the charts. I mean, it's, like, to be able to turn around on a target, you know, like, if someone's chasing you. There you go. Check this out. Look how cool it looks, too. So it's like to be able to turn around on a target, you know, like if someone's chasing you, there you go. Check this out. Look,

so it's going up. This is straight. Now you can see it slow down and then it's going to change its orientation. There you go. What? Now, uh, look at that.

Look at that. Look how thin it is too. I mean, you see all the air surfaces working. It just, I love. I love that. If you saw that, you would assume that's from another planet. I mean, it's just insane what they can do with these things. And these are, like, fairly low speeds. It's just how powerful those motors are, those Raptor engines are.

And they also have, like, a low heat signature. It's, I mean, it's crazy. Look at that. Look at that. That's, I mean, it's crazy. Look at that. Look at that. That's so crazy. It just seems fake. It just seems fake that it just, like it's pausing and then flattening out and then diving down. And they can do flat spins where the whole body of the plane, it's level, but it's just rotating as it's descending.

And so imagine as a weapons platform, it's just rotating in the air, just firing weapons. I mean, I'm sure that's not how they would use it, but you could. It would look cool in a movie. It would look cool in a movie and a lot of complaining pilots. Anyways, I mean- Technology, my friend. So many people, so many smart people out there. So little time. And I just, you know, science, art, engineering, that's my priority. I think that's all you ever need to worry about in life. Well, I know. Well, I love the fact that you have those combining interests, that you're such a technophile

as well as an audiophile, a musician, and a comedian and all these things kind of pile in together. Yeah, man. I love it. I just like, why not, man? Why not? Let's fucking get people excited about all the shit you can get excited about yeah

well listen brother it's always a pleasure I'm glad we got to do it what a blast man glad to come down here and do it in Austin yeah thanks for having me at your Austin joint man

my pleasure and congratulations this is a great city man thanks man I love it here I love it here and when we open up the comedy club

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