The Joe Rogan Experience - #1650 - Russell Peters
Episode Date: May 12, 2021Russell Peters is a standup comedian, actor, and the host of the "Culturally Cancelled" podcast. ...
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Hello, Russell.
Hello, Joseph.
Good to see you, my friend.
How are you, pally?
I'm fucking great.
So...
Better now that you're here.
I know.
I called you and I said, Joe, I really want to do your podcast again. You said, sure. Anytime, buddy. I know. It fucking great. Better now that you're here. I know. I called you and I said,
Joe, I really want to do your podcast again.
You said, sure.
Anytime, buddy.
I know.
It was great.
I was very happy.
I thought you were going to be like,
oh, man, I got so many people out here.
Come on, Russell.
You and I go back, my friend.
I tell everybody I wear the watch you gave me every special
and I have since 2014.
Oh, really?
I didn't know that detail.
That's an interesting detail. You gave me a watch once it was the most ridiculously
generous thing ever I was looking at your watch oh that's a nice watch you
you want it and you took it off and gave it to me I'm like Jesus Christ so I've
worn it every special I've tried I've tried that with you I was like Joe
that's a really nice Porsche yeah it is you walked away. Oh, it's a ploy. I see how it works.
Well, it never worked.
It never worked.
So I took your advice and I started my podcast.
I heard.
Yes.
How many have you done so far?
I think I've done maybe eight or nine maybe.
Are you enjoying it?
I'm having a good time with it.
Why did you wait so long?
I don't know. I really don't.
It really wasn't until your prompting that I started to look into it.
And then you said you'd be my first guest, but I was like, let me get some people under my belt first.
Get rolling.
Yeah, let me get rolling.
Yeah, that's like, you know, becoming a white belt and go, hey, let me roll with you.
You're like, no, don't do that.
Do you have a studio at your house?
Like, where do you have your studio?
There's no studio. I just do it in my backyard oh nice like i have like a little porch area with with a humidor
and then we sit around like this we smoke cigars we have some drinks i like outdoor uh podcasts
anthony kumia used to do his in his backyard that was by force not by choice well when he left uh
new york when he left Opie and Anthony.
When he went back to Long Island and built his little-
The compound.
His compound.
Yeah.
But he used to do it just like sitting out by the pool.
Yeah, the pool's right there.
And you'll hear planes go by and stuff.
It's nice.
But it's like this.
It's just conversation.
It's just hanging out.
I took a page out of your book.
I was like, people are like, well, what's it going to be about?
I go, I just want you to hear me and my friends hanging out and talking.
Yeah.
You know, a little fly on the wall business there.
Yeah, that's all it needs to be.
This idea that it needs to be something very specific.
Like, what are you going to talk about?
Like, you need an angle.
Yeah.
You need a hook.
Yeah.
I'm like, there's no, like, I go, I'm going to have a tough time fucking sticking to that script.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
Some people do.
Like, Ari has a theme for most of his podcasts.
Ari's a very themed, thematic guy.
Yeah.
Even when he came up with the TV shows, you know.
He would always have a theme.
And when he would have those shows at the store, okay, we're going to do this night.
Do you have a blah, blah, blah story for that?
And I'm like, you know, which is good. he would have those shows at the store. Okay, we're going to do this night. Do you have a blah, blah, blah story for that?
And I'm like, you know, which is good.
And, you know, it challenges the guest a little bit.
Yeah.
Which is nice.
Well, that's how he came up with his show.
He came up with the idea for his show when he was just trying to figure out ways to work on bits that are storytelling form.
So he said, you know what I'll do?
I'll just do a whole storytelling show.
Where you don't do your act, you just tell a story.
Right.
And then he set it up in the lab, the old lab,
before it became that weird lab in the improv.
Oh, yeah, yeah, in Melrose there.
Yeah.
And then he started doing it there.
And then next thing you know, it was a fucking Comedy Central show.
I know.
I did a couple of those.
This is not happening.
I did This is Not Happening, but then he had the other ones that he would do live before he was recording them.
Yeah, what did he call those?
Were those called This is Not Happening as well?
No.
I think one variation of it was, but the earlier ones were some sort of road stories or whatever.
I can't even remember why he stopped doing the show now.
Some sort of like road stories or whatever. I can't even remember why he stopped doing the show now.
I think it was because that little episode happened with when, who died?
No, it was before that.
Was it before that?
Yeah.
Somebody else died.
I think they canceled him basically.
And then they replaced him with somebody else.
I'm trying to remember what it was.
God, I can't remember.
They fuck with Ari a lot.
Well, Ari's a wild man.
Ari's a wild man, but if you know him.
He's a legit wild.
He's a beautiful person.
I love him to death.
If you know him, he's a great guy.
He's a great guy.
I love him.
I love him to death.
But he's a wild man.
But that's why he's a great comic.
He's wild, you know?
There's a lot of great comics that are wild.
We just got to be more forgiving with those people.
They don't mean to be bad.
Yeah, you got to understand people is what it is.
I always say it's about the intent.
It's not what they're saying.
Look at the intent.
See if there's something, if they're actually being diabolical or they're just right they're just not thinking yeah well it's like a lot of impulsiveness involved in some folks in our
business you know and sometimes they think it's a good idea and you want to call them up you know
right before they do it and catch them usually you don't yeah it goes out and then you go hey
no it's like a social media post, you know?
In the moment, you're like, this is what I'm fucking feeling and I'm going to put this out there.
And I've been guilty of it.
And I've stopped myself from it, too, at the same time, you know?
Yeah.
There's a lot of comics that, like, social media is not a healthy thing for them.
It's just too much of a minefield, you know? Oh, yeah peril yeah and that's the thing i'm always careful about what i'm posting like i have you know i have this
company that cuts my bits together for me and subtitles them and then they'll send it to me i
won't i don't know what they're going to send me because it's always like crowd work stuff that
they're sending because i don't want to burn material right and uh and i'm like fuck that's
funny but i know that this one line in there is going to cause a fucking shitstorm of people
to be like, what's wrong with you?
You can't.
And I'm like, you're missing the fucking point, pal.
Dude, I watched Step Brothers the other day.
You could not make that movie today.
You could not make it.
And it was so good.
You can't make a lot of things that we made five years ago today.
Can you imagine if they tried to make Step Brothers today?
But by the way, here's a question.
When was the last time you saw a really good funny movie, like a recent funny movie?
We have not.
We have not.
They don't exist.
It's hard because they're trying to incorporate too much.
Well, you're trying to be woke.
You're trying to apply these rules that are created by these people that just want to kind of control people's
ability to express themselves well they want you to show this world that matches their imaginary
world you're like but that's not my world not only that it's like come on man you do you really get
offended when you watch stepbrothers does that offend you you got offended by stepbrothers you've
got issues that's why i don't feel like the people that are getting offended
have their own things that they're
dealing with and they just need somebody
to blame. Well, they're just deciding
what people can and can't say and
don't, you know,
whatever they think is
non-acceptable now
in this new world of
just calling out everybody for everything.
I think about my act when I started like 32 years ago.
I'm like, holy shit.
Jesus.
What the fuck was wrong with me?
So many problems.
So problematic.
Oh, my God.
Hey, did you watch the Canelo fight this weekend?
I was working.
You didn't see it at all?
I saw the highlights.
Jesus Christ.
He broke his face.
Bro, he hits so hard.
Broke that orbital bone.
He's one of those guys that like, you know, some guys just have power right, but he works on it all the time
That's what I say. He's the most in every fight. He's the most improved fighter
He always goes back and fixes anything he saw wrong. Yep. Well the
Jacobs fight remember this head movement. Yep. It's I mean they gave Danny problems
We give anybody problems, but it was also like he was showing his head movement? Yep. It gave Danny problems. It would give anybody problems,
but it was also like he was showing his head movement in that fight.
Yeah, because they used to say he just walked right in,
and then he fixed it.
My God, did he fix it.
There was a video of Deontay Wilder yesterday I saw it,
and he's looking really good.
Malik Scott King is training him now.
What is he doing with him?
Oh, he looks like a completely different fighter.
I think if you could find that.
Oh, is he using a lot of jabs? Jabs and planting his feet, oh he looks like a completely different fighter i think if you could find that oh is he like using a lot of jabs is that video and planting his feet and it
looks like a boxer now he doesn't look like a wild man just leaping off his feet and throwing
these wild punches looks and i'm excited to see him fight now because he looked really sharp look
like a real boxer now don't you think he needs a few fights like that with lower lower tier competition look at that yeah
look at that sitting on him bam the jab is very important but he's gonna need some you know some
tune-up fights don't you think he should definitely have a just to see how that style works in the
ring but he's moving you see the way he's moving he never moved like But again, he's a guy that has fucking preposterous power.
Yeah.
Power's so weird, you know?
It is because he's so thin.
You're like, where's it coming from?
Well, Tommy Hearns.
Yeah, well, Tommy, yeah.
Tommy Hearns, he knocked Roberto Duran out cold.
The only guy ever.
Second round.
There's just guys that just have preposterous power.
And Canelo is a guy that has power but is constantly working on it.
There's a great clip of him working with
Andy Ruiz and
There you know that what that shield that weird hand shield? Yeah, they hold on you hold which for hooks
Yeah, and he's like this is not for speed. This is just power just power
He's like don't don't try to be fast with this just power and you see him
Everything is and so in that fight with billy
joe and billy joe kept doing that that same lean over and over like after he would punch he would
lean out of the way and he just timed it perfectly with that uppercut yep and threw everything in it
oh that's the thing he he really watches you in a fight he's not like some some knucklehead who
knows how to he really pays it he's very aware
and to me i was never a canelo guy before but after the past five fights i was like you know
what if i'm not a canelo fan now i'm a fucking hater but i am a fan now because i really appreciate
his work ethic you know the way he fucking look at this see it's it's about power yeah see this is
this is the thing they're working on they just
and he'll do that over and over and over again so he's a guy who already had big power but he's
constantly working and developing that power so like in a fight like the saunders fight there was
massive consequences to anything that saunders did did Did you see? How about that fight? I watched that fight. The Chris Areola fight?
Yeah.
Chris Areola cracked him.
He did a few times.
He had him on Queer Street a couple times.
A couple times, yeah.
Are you allowed to say Queer Street anymore?
Yes, you can stay.
It's an odd street.
It is an odd street.
Well, queer is not even, it's not derogatory.
Like, queer is a distinction.
Like, it's a part of LBGTQ.
Yeah.
Queer, it's okay.
Which is interesting, right?
Because queer used to be derogatory.
My dad used to use that as a derogatory term to me.
I'd wear, like, I came on a pink shirt.
My God, have you become queer?
And I'm like, what?
Your father's accent's amazing.
Does he really talk like that?
He used to talk like that.
Have you become queer?
And I'm like, what?
My dad used the, my dad would use the, like, he was an English major,
so he would always pick these words that would make it go, what the fuck?
Like, my brother would, like, we all lived in the same house, obviously, growing up,
and my brother was a bigger guy.
And then my dad would be in, we had breakfast the next morning.
My dad would be like, Clayton, what time did you come in last night?
My brother's like, you know, 2.30.
And he's like, I know I heard you lumbering around like a bloody elephant upstairs.
Bloody.
Lumbering.
Lumbering around like a bloody elephant.
That's the thing about Canadians.
You've adopted, Canadians have adopted some of the vernacular of the Englishman.
Well, my dad grew up in India under British rule, so.
And we're
mixed so I knew a girl from Canada and she used to say she was going to the loo
oh she was just trying to be special oh you think so I don't like when people
say cheers either alright cheers pal but you don't like you know when they're
saying thank you you know oh cheers man thanks oh oh you bright not like cheers
cheers for the drink but cheers hey. Cheers, mate.
Cheers for the cigar.
No, motherfucker.
Thank you.
Right, right.
I see what you're saying.
The term cheers for like a thank you bothers me.
Yeah, cheers.
Because it's like, are you really going to fucking cheer?
Hey, Joe gave me a cigar.
Hooray!
Well, it's like aloha.
It's got a lot of names.
This bothers me.
Unless you're Hawaiian, this bothers me.
Does it? It bothers the shit out of names. This bothers me. Unless you're Hawaiian, this bothers me. Does it? It bothers
the shit out of me. You better not surf.
I know. People that take pictures with me, like...
The surfers love that shit. I get it.
For them and Hawaiians, I get
it. Surfers. But random dudes are like...
Jiu-Jitsu guys like that too.
I know. It fucking bothers me. Oh, that's where
it bothers you. Yeah. I'm like, what are you doing?
Listen, you're a part of the culture now. You gotta
adopt a lot of Jiu-Jitsu weirdness. I know. And I don't say os. year. Yeah. I'm like, what are you doing? Listen, you're a part of the culture now. You got to adopt a lot of jujitsu weirdness.
I know.
And I don't say os.
Os.
Os.
Os.
Yeah,
even John Jack,
I ask him about it,
he goes,
ah,
it's stupid.
We don't use that.
Well,
it's really not
a jujitsu thing
as much as it was
more of a karate thing.
Os was a karate thing.
But it's like a respect thing.
I remember the ki eyes oh
ki eyes when you throw punches but os is like you say it like it's almost like kind of tongue
in cheek when most guys do it os but they they're serious you know they're saying respect it's like
saying respect respect i don't i don't know how to use it so i don't bother with it and i'll use
poha because that's you know that's fine you hear that all the time you know poha is a lot of things it's calm it's nuts i believe i mentioned it on the last time i was
on yeah yeah yeah they all do it they all say brazilians love to say poha brazilian is that
portuguese from brazil is such a beautiful language because it's so flowing
it's got like a sing song yeah but if but if you hear the Portuguese from Portugal talk, it's like they're very different accent.
Oh, I don't even know what it sounds like over in Portugal.
Yeah, because when I hear like, you know, the guys in the jujitsu world speaking and you hear them talking, they're always laughing and making jokes.
And you know they're making jokes and breaking each other's balls.
But you know what they're saying?
Oh, yeah.
I was listening to Henzo.
Henzo Gracie has a clip on his Instagram.
Yesterday he posted something in all Portuguese.
All Portuguese.
And I'm just like, I just like hearing it.
Play it.
Because Henzo's got like the perfect Portuguese Brazilian accent.
Yeah, Henzo has that pitch he hits for the boys.
He's a fucking worldwide, I would say national treasure, but he's Brazil's.
So he's a worldwide treasure.
Yeah, he's a worldwide treasure for sure.
He's an entrepreneur, that's it.
Take a look at the work of art of this academy.
Look here.
My dear Uncle Rollins, me there.
He's looking at pictures on the wall of famous jiu-jitsu guys.
That means it was 1978.
That's when this happens.
That's the famous mats of New York City. famosos jiu jitsu que quer dizer que era 1978 aí acontece isso esse é o famoso matos da cidade de new york
benzo gracie academy
é um idioma lindo é quando ele faz isso
parece bom It's a beautiful language. It's beautiful. It's when he does it, it sounds good.
He sounds like he's just talking shit to you, doesn't he?
Because of the look in Henzo's face all the time,
he probably is talking shit to you.
One of my favorite Henzo stories was Henzo live-streamed him beating these dudes' asses who were following him around trying to mug him oh i remember that i remember that these poor fucks they decided they
were gonna mug henzo like what a fucking and he like took pictures of his knuckles after he beat
their asses and it was like what a great day that was in new york city right yes i remember that
it was this was pre-pandemic when New York City was slightly
more safe, like quite a bit more safe, actually. It's pretty sketchy now. I've trained with Half
a couple of times. Half's a dangerous man. Oh, man. Half shows me dirty moves. He's a mean dude.
Yeah. He's a great guy, and he'll be like, okay, show me. Show me what you know. And I'm like,
I'm scared of you, Half. I'm not not fucking i'm not smashing you i'm i'm rolling
real light and he's like you need to go back to the basics i'm like no i just don't want to fucking
i don't want to feel what you're going to do to me if i if i put my pressure on you how often
do you train these days not as much as i want to what do you want to i want to train three times a
week what have you been doing like one or two yeah once lately it's been like once a month are you
doing other stuff do you do you have like a personal one or two? Yeah, lately it's been like once a month. Are you doing other stuff?
Do you have like a personal trainer or anything like that?
No, I just got my yoga ball and some dumbbells.
Dude, get a personal trainer.
Get someone who you're accountable to so you have to show up.
They show up at your house.
All you need is a yoga ball and some dumbbells.
I mean, you get a good trainer.
You don't need a lot of equipment.
Yeah.
Get someone who makes you do stuff.
Yeah, I just want to jitz. Otherwise, I have no time right now. that's you don't need a lot of equipment yeah get someone who like makes you do stuff yeah i just
want to jitz i i like late otherwise i have no time right now it's like i get my kid i finally
got my kid back there's a lot of people that are rewinding us going did he say he wants a jizz
what are you saying i want a pole hall i just want a jizz i just want a jizz that's just want
a jitz you just like doing jiu-jits. So you got your kid back? I got my kid back. Yeah? Finally. Well, I get him
eight hours a day.
Every day? Not every day.
A lot of days? A couple of times a week. That's good. How long were you
guys separated? It
goes back and forth. You guys working it
out, though? I mean, the courts are working it
out, buddy. You know how this
system is not a good system, is all I'm saying.
My brother. I know.
I can't blame anybody but myself, so I'll take all accountability on this.
That's good.
I know.
But good to hear at least you get to see your son.
Yeah, and I'm in a better place than when I was last July when I saw you.
That's good.
Yeah, it was dark then.
Yeah, you were.
It was dark.
It was dark for me.
I was worried about you.
It was a little dark time for me.
Yeah, it seemed like it was. Yeah. You saved me. How did dark for me. I was worried about you. It was a little dark time for me. Yeah, it seemed like it was.
Yeah.
You saved me.
How did I save you?
I don't know.
Just being you.
And then I got a great girl now.
Oh, that's good.
She's awesome.
Nice.
Look at you.
Yeah, see, things are coming up roses now.
You're always lucky.
You're always trying to write us.
No, this time I really got lucky this time.
This chick literally saved my life, I would say.
Yeah?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah.
I love to hear that. Yeah, it's a good thing. I finally, you know, I would say. Yeah? Oh, yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. I love to hear that.
Yeah, it's a good thing.
I finally, you know, I got your match, you know?
Beautiful.
You got your match.
I found my match.
Yeah, you got your match.
Yeah, that's a lot of life, man, finding compatible people, both friends and lovers, you know,
everything across the board, even business people.
You know, I know a lot of people that they have a bad manager, a bad agent.
If you're lucky, you find all sorts of the right people.
Yeah, I mean, it takes something to happen for you to realize you're in a fucked up place too.
Yeah.
That pandemic kicked my ass.
I got to be honest.
That shit kicked my ass.
Well, I mean, out of nowhere, all of a sudden you don't make any money.
Yeah, and then you realize how much you were spending.
And then your accountant goes, hey, fuckhead, can't live like that.
I go, oh, I mean, I knew I couldn't live like that then, but now I really can't live like that.
Well, lucky for you, you had property, sold some property.
Yeah.
Get your head above water.
Just tread, buddy.
But it would have been nice if you had that podcast already going, right?
Oh, yeah.
See, that's what I've been trying to tell all these comics like listen i know like comics don't like to work
they like to fuck off but we're lazy that's why we do what we do yeah we're lazy we're impulsive
you know and people whenever people try to say that i'm disciplined i always go listen i'm the
fucking laziest disciplined person you'll ever meet in your life i get things done but i don't
want to i mean i it's not like i get up every day and I'm like, yes, here we go.
What time do you wake up?
Early.
And you go to bed late.
Yeah.
But I get up, I always say goodbye to my kids in the morning.
And lately I've been doing hyperbaric chamber sessions.
Really?
Yeah.
I didn't want to talk about it until I know whether or not this is legit.
And? And I don't know. I don't know whether or not it's legit. Wasn't Michael Jackson doing
that at one point? No. Maybe. Yeah. Before he was doing the propofol, he was doing hyperbaric
chambers. That's right. Yeah. You're right. You're right. He was. It's supposed to lengthen
your telomeres. There's a study out of Israel where they did 60 sessions over 90 days.
And one measure of biological health and age
is the length of your telomeres.
What are your telomeres?
Your telomeres, it's, I'll butcher it.
So there's Michael Jackson.
That's the old school one with the walkie talkie on it.
Yeah, that's a weird one, right?
Because it's all glass.
What is it?
Just high oxygen?
It is, yes.
Here, well, let's go to telomeres first.
Google the term telomeres because I don't want to fuck it up.
But it has something to do, I believe, with your mitochondria and the length of your telomeres indicates it's an indication of health and of biological age.
Although the biological age aspect of it is disputed.
But people like David Sinclair think it's a good indication of your biological age.
He's been on the podcast a couple times before.
He's a professor at Harvard and he studies – Most of his study is in anti-aging.
Yeah, but go to telomeres, please.
Oh, that's how you spell telomeres.
Yeah, but I wanted to know the definition.
I had it all wrong in my head.
Just telomeres, just so I could figure out how to say it.
Okay.
It's the end of a chromosome.
Ah.
how to say it. Okay. It's the end of a chromosome.
Telomeres are made of
repetitive sequences of non-coding
DNA that protect their chromosomes
from damage. Each time a
cell divides, the telomere becomes shorter.
Eventually, the telomeres become so
short the cell can no longer divide.
So this is as you get older, your telomeres
become shorter. And now
Google telomeres
hyperbaric, the thing that you had already.
And what this is, for the first time, hyperbaric oxygen therapy proven to reverse biological aging in humans.
Does that look like the ones you're doing?
No, I don't know what these people are doing.
Are you doing chamber?
Yeah, I'm in a fucking metal tube.
Do you have one at the house?
No, no, but I'm going to get one.
I know, you're that guy.
Yeah.
You had the you know the
isolation i'm getting one in here yeah we'll have one in here soon with the salt water yes i remember
when you had it in your house when you when i first started in your podcast like 11 years ago
yeah yeah i showed it to me yeah yeah people think it's creepy it's like uh yeah because it is a very
it's odd it is odd it looks like a Yeah. Yeah, especially the one that the float tank...
That's the one I'm talking about.
Yeah, the float lab.
That's the one you had.
The float lab is...
They make the best ones.
They make these fucking super high...
Crash down in Venice makes the most overly engineered float tanks.
They're so...
He uses...
What do they go for?
I don't know.
You have to ask him. I'm not sure. It's not cheap. No, I didn't imagine. They're so like, like he uses, what do they go for? I don't know. You have to ask him.
I'm not sure.
It's not cheap.
No,
I did like 20 grand plus.
Oh yeah,
no,
forget it.
But it's got like,
um,
ozone to filter out the water from bad bacteria and kill,
you know,
any funk that might be in there.
Although the only person who goes in mine,
it's me.
You don't have to have one like that though.
You can get one that's fairly cheap.
The first one I ever got was a Samadhihi i don't even know if they make those anymore but
that was just a few grand that was like i think it was three grand or something like that but it's
much less engineered than these float lab ones these float lab ones are like super high end
it's like the porsche design one yeah it's like he just goes, he's a mad scientist, Crash is. He's been on the podcast before.
He's a wacky cat.
But he's the guy who really, like, float tanks for a long time were a dying thing.
No one was using them.
When did you discover it?
Because I know you had it 11 years ago when I.
I first discovered it earlier than that.
I discovered it, I think, in the early, late 90 discovered it, I think in the early,
in late nineties, maybe I think the first time I did one. And then I got one in like 2002,
somewhere around then, 2002, 2003, I got one in my house. And then, um, I got, uh, I had a friend
who was, uh, servicing my float tank. and he told me about the float lab.
He's like, this one is okay,
but the way it's made is not the best.
He's like, there's a guy in Venice
that makes these insanely engineered ones,
and he showed me some photos of it.
He said, you'd really be better off getting one of these
because you're going to have less problems.
Because one of the problems I had
was my heating element had burned through my uh liner
something had shorted out oh wow and it burned through the liner and so it flooded the inside
of the tank and the like it went through the liner into the base of the tank and it
fucked everything up and so you had to drain it and fix it and do all this stuff he's like
this is not the best engineered one you really need to get like a better one if you want to
have the best experience it was just way better in terms of like sound insulation
and the float lab ones are just they're incredible there's how long do you sit
in them for I like two hours two hours two hours is what I like is well you're
a little extreme so what's what's the average an hour an hour is the average
person I see you posting those sauna ones ones too you're sitting in the uh yeah i like that too yeah what are you at now 100 and i like 185 but it really goes up to 200 yeah it's at 200 though
it's weird it's like it's the way those things work saunas it depends on where you're at like
if i'm sitting at the top bench my head is in 200 but if i lay down in the bottom bench I'm really at like 185 you know so it's how long
you sitting in that for now 25 minutes and sweating your ass off sweat my ass off yeah
but it's like my problem is when I get into a song I get bored as fuck yeah I listen to books
see I'm afraid my phone's gonna overheat or whatever you don't use don't use your phone
I use airpods airpods don't overheat for whatever reason.
I figured this out a long time ago. So you leave the phone outside.
I have AirPods specifically for using the sauna
because I have my one that I use when I'm talking on the phone
that I never take in the sauna
because the sweat gets into these things
and it completely fucks up the microphone.
So if I try to call people, they're like,
where the fuck are you?
Sound like you're underwater.
Hey, Russell, how are you doing? It fucks up whatever microphone so if i try to call people they're like where the fuck are you sound like you're underwater it's it fucks up whatever the microphone is like the soaking of the sweat so these are just for listening yeah i only have i have a one pair that i wear just
when i'm inside the sauna and they don't burn out so you can listen to books i'm listening
to this book on cabesa de vaca who's a spanish yeah he's a spanish uh uh explorer that landed in
north america in the 1500s and walked across the country it's a crazy you ever want to complain
about the weather you ever want to complain about your life oh fucking covid kicked my ass listen
to me read this fucking book it It's called A Land So Strange.
It's amazing. My friend Hank
told me about it. He's the security guy
at Kill Tony.
Big giant Native American cat.
Oh, the one with the hat on? Yeah, I met him last night.
Great guy. Hank told me
about this book, and he was
raving about it, and boy was he right. It's amazing.
So are these the stories
told from
notes he left yes notes he left and then you know him telling a story back home when he got when he
eventually uh got rescued or made it back to spain which i believe happened i don't know
where did he land they landed in modern day they landed in florida okay and they made their way
across florida and then they got to
the gulf of mexico they did all this with rafts they they sailed like i don't know how many
fucking miles in rafts and then they got attacked multiple times by indians when they would get to
shore and some indians took care of them and some indians attacked them and killed them and what a fucking harrowing journey
man i mean i'm on chapter i think i'm on chapter eight now and so far they've been at it for 10
i think he's been in america for 10 years at this point or close to it how many people six years
seven years well they got down to four started with spoiler alert 400 everybody died except four
dudes wow it's fucking crazy dude it is a crazy story and it also details like what it was like
in north america in that time like the mayan civilization the aztecs, the Native Americans. It's amazing. I love stories about what it was like hundreds and hundreds of years ago.
Because if you look at the world in terms of the hundreds of millions of years that
people, or rather hundreds of millions of years that life has been here on Earth, and
then look at the amount of years that people have been here.
We've only been here like 300,000 years, 400,000 years, whatever it's been.
Then you go like 500 years ago, which is what this is.
That's nothing.
It's nothing.
It's a blink of an eye.
But my God, it's so different in every way.
I mean, you look at 100 years ago and it's so different.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
But this is really wild, man.
Like our civilization itself has leaps and bounds
Yeah, it's almost puzzling that we never fucking came across any of this stuff 500 years ago
Like we never thought about doing any of these things well
We didn't have safety see this is the thing that humans need to innovate they need safety right they need quiet
And they need like peace you can't be like
fighting off catapults with fucking flaming bodies headed your way like the mongols were doing or
you know when you're fighting wars constantly and you're constantly being invaded and you're
worried about people raping your women and stealing your food there's no innovation you're
not going to get anything done it It's like when things get safe.
But they still had like their medicine men,
and I'm sure they had like their,
you know,
what would be the tech people of the time
that they would,
you know,
these would be the warriors
that would go out and do that,
and then they would protect these people
to innovate the village or whatever.
There was no innovation.
I mean,
all the medicine men,
like what were they?
They knew some herbs and some plants and some things that were good for you but for the most part you're fucked yeah you get sick
you're fucked you break your leg you're fucked you know most of the time you're fucked a lot of
it was you're fucked we went back to being fucked again so nah barely we barely did but i mean this
is these the trend of moving towards good things has good aspects and bad aspects, right?
And the bad aspects is you could not make a movie like Step Brothers anymore.
People are trying to make things so safe.
We evolved to devolve.
Yeah, we got a little crazy.
Yeah, hopefully this all goes away.
I have problems with it, you know.
I have problems with it. It know. I have problems with it.
It'll balance out a little bit.
It will because there's this really weird balance of being told to be tolerant while the people.
Being intolerant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a very fucking.
I don't understand.
But you want me to tolerate you, but you're not going to tolerate my adjustment time.
Well, the compassionate
people are the biggest bullies online it's like yeah well it's fake compassion right well it's
they they think they're doing the right thing they think they're doing the right thing they really do
they think they're doing the right thing and they think they're fighting against oppression
and bigotry and all these other things and And in their mind, that's the quest.
That's what they're doing.
Yeah.
I was walking around Austin yesterday,
and there was an ACLU booth in the middle of nowhere on Congress.
And it's a black dude standing there.
And he sees me, and he goes, hey, you're that guy.
And I go, hey, you're that black guy.
And there was two white girls with him.
And they were like, oh, my God, did he just call you a black guy? And I'm like, do you think I'm the you're that black guy and there was two white girls with him and they were like oh my god
did he just call you a black guy and I'm like
do you think I'm the fucking guy that broke the news
to him I go
he knows well not only that if he knows
you he knows so much of your materials
racial well I just you know
when I meet people I like to talk to them
on their level you know I'm not gonna come here
and say Joe there's this new rain
DJ system you're gonna be like
okay you know you want to talk to people on a level where you want to.
I want to let them know I recognize this about you.
And then we'll go from there.
Well, your comedy is that like your comedy is like pointing out racial differences, but ultimately bringing everybody together through humor.
Right.
If he knows who you are, he knows that's what you do yeah he's always yeah because it's always friendly and warm-hearted
and it's it's it's playful it's all playful fun yeah you know but like i've seen you get yelled
at before about this like online people get upset at you for your comedy it's like come on man you
don't have to listen you don't have to watch it.
But obviously the fucking arena is packed.
People are enjoying this.
There's definitely a group of people that don't agree with you.
They're not wrong.
I always say the people that want to cancel you aren't the people that were ever going to buy a ticket to see you.
Yeah, exactly.
So I'm not really worried about appeasing them when I want to keep my constituents uh you know happy exactly yeah it's you know people can just decide that what you do is no longer appropriate but but to to you
it was never appropriate to you you didn't like it in the first place there was never a time you
were going to enjoy me and if there was then you're you know it's a fucking odd it's a weird
time russell but it's also a weird time for them.
It's like, you know, they're getting sucked into these ideologies, too.
They're getting sucked into all this groupthink.
And there's so little, like, real one-on-one interaction when it comes to these kind of ideas and talking about things and what's appropriate and what's not appropriate.
That's what the problem is.
There needs to be more conversations happening.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's what the problem is. There needs to be more conversations happening. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Like, if I have questions about—I have a trans friend, and I ask her questions all the time, that if you didn't know her and I were friends, you'd be like, are you attacking this person?
I'm like, no, I'm asking fucking questions so I can get some clarity so I understand the situation better.
Yeah, it's funny that, like, there's some things you can make fun of, and it's okay.
Yeah, it's funny that like some things you can make fun of and it's okay.
And everyone knows that you don't mean anything bad by it. You're just making fun.
There's certain things you can make fun of.
Well, yeah, when you're friends.
You know what I mean?
So once you're friends with somebody, you enter this other world of ball breaking.
Yeah.
And if you don't know the person, you're attacking them.
I'm like, no.
Ball breaking.
I would never attack this person, you're attacking them. I'm like, no. It's ball breaking. I would never attack this person.
They're my friend.
Well, it's weird, too, to me that the Trump administration during the time that Trump was president really showed some hypocritical thinking by a lot of people.
Because one of the things you're never supposed to attack is someone's body.
You're not supposed to body shame.
Right.
What was the thing they always attack?
He's got little hands.
He's probably got a little dick.
Look at his fucked up hair.
Yeah.
Look how fat he is. It was the thing they always attack? He's got little hands. Probably got a little dick. Look at his fucked up hair. Yeah. Look how fat he is.
Like, it was all body shaming.
Yeah.
Remember when the doctor said he's perfectly healthy and was like, no, he's not.
Look at him.
I'm like, who are you to fucking tell?
You know what I mean?
I didn't believe that doctor either, though.
I didn't believe that doctor either.
That doctor's full of shit.
That doctor's like, got one eye looking that way.
The fuck are you saying?
The version of him that I saw.
Yeah.
Like, what are you saying? He of him that i saw yeah like what are you saying
he's perfectly healthy compared to what like if he's going to be in the olympics like what are
you saying how could he be perfectly healthy he's never worked out a day in his life he's nothing
but cheeseburgers and speed and he's 75 years old the fuck out of here he's not healthy he's alive
though yeah well well you know same with joe biden you know when i watch him talk
even i'm like oh come on joey well that's the weirdest one when people try to defend that
they try to say there's nothing wrong with them they've kind of abandoned that now
yeah because it's becoming more and more apparent well it's worse yeah it's the stress of the job
is intolerable i mean for anybody if you if you got-year-old super healthy person in that job in a year or two,
they would be a much more broken down version of themselves. It's just an impossible job.
If you think kids will age you, become the president of the United States and watch.
Look at Obama. His hair started black. He finished it was white. It's the same thing.
Bush too.
If you look at Bush early in office, then look at him late in office.
I mean, it's not a real four years or eight years that he's aging.
Oh, yeah.
It's like decades.
Decades.
I wonder what his telomeres are saying after that.
Short as fuck.
I'm short.
Dying.
Like Trump's dick.
Get it?
Bah!
His little telomere hands.
There's no way.
There's no way you could do that job.
Nobody could do that job.
Everybody gets beaten down.
And everyone's like, if I was, I'm like, go for it, stupid.
Go for it.
I want to see how long you last.
The thing is, Trump seemed to handle it, ironically, better than anybody that's ever done it.
Like, he seemed to age the least amount during that time in office.
And he was the most embattled.
It's true.
I'll give you that it's
true well whether you're a supporter or not and i constantly get accused of being a trump supporter
i never i did not vote for him i'm not a trump supporter not not it's not true i know you to
be that so it's crazy that people keep accusing me of it i like when i watch people accuse you
of things i know you're not and i just sit there and i giggle my favorite is he's a racist i'm like
oh he's terrible at it if he is i I'm a horrible racist. He's the worst racist
I've ever met in my life. You really got to work on this racist thing, Joe. It's a lot of work.
Yeah. There's too many cool people on the other side. You have to ignore so much.
Yeah. If you really wanted to be a racist, you'd have to ignore so many cool people.
Yeah. I saw a picture of a clan was a clan rally and you know it was all
the white power stuff and the guy was wearing jordan so i'm like uh i'm like wait a minute dude
i hate black people but their goddamn shoes are fantastic oh it's so dumb it's the dumbest thing
of all time being a racist is literally the dumbest thing it's see racism is the one that
makes me laugh because i'm like there's no way you can really,
like there may be people
in the group
that you don't like
and that's everybody.
Everybody has that feeling.
There's somebody
in one race
that I didn't like
but that doesn't mean
the whole fucking race
is tainted to me.
Well, first of all,
it's dumb
because all of us
came out of one place.
They think now,
this is what they think
about human beings,
that this is a weird theory too. They're trying to, I'll they think about human beings, that this is a weird
theory too. They're trying to, I'll send you this, Jamie, because it's really strange. They're not
even sure if this is, this is like a theory that they're working on now. They think that it's
possible that, first of all, they think that monkeys and primates came originally from Asia.
Here, I'm sending this to you right now, Jamie.
And then we evolved and became humans in Africa.
The thing is they don't know how primates got from Asia to Africa.
I just sent it to you.
It's a long journey.
But they think they might have fucking floated over.
It's a really interesting thing.
But my point is, all of us are African.
Everyone is African.
Yes.
If you go back to the origins of human beings, everyone is African.
That's where we started walking.
That's everybody.
Yeah.
And then humans branched out.
So even the idea of race itself is kind of preposterous we vary
because our ancestors developed in different climates well one of the the
arguments from the the racist side is that their theory is that white people
are more evolved hence why they look least like monkeys and I'm like so dumb
and I'm like I don't understand this fucking theory well it's a dumb theory
because it doesn't understand
why people became white
in the first place
it's because
we moved to a shitty climate
where there's no fucking sunlight
so
the human skin
when
not exposed to sunlight
gets paler and paler
in a desperate attempt
to soak up
vitamin D
right
but then you have
the Native Americans
who were a little swarthy
swarthy
what do you mean
swarthy
a little darker you know well they came What do you mean? Swarthy, a little darker, you know?
Well, they came from Siberia.
All of them?
Yeah, that's pretty much. They think that.
There is a very common look between the two.
Well, they think it's also possible that there were some, because we're dealing with, when you talk about Native Americans, you're dealing with like pre-Ice Age.
Obviously, I'm not a historian, so take this with a grain of salt or a whole bag.
But if you're dealing with people that were in North America like pre-Ice Age and during the Ice Age, they came down the Bering Strait, they think.
They came across the Bering Land Bridge from Asia.
Yeah, the Mongolians.
But there's also some possible evidence that people came on boats as well.
They don't really-
They would have to have.
Yeah.
They don't know where the Olmecs came from.
That's a real weird one.
Those are folks that lived somewhere in South America that have African features.
Right.
Yeah, and they have these big stone heads that were carved
that were like 6,000 plus years old.
And they're like, okay, well, where do these guys come from?
They don't know.
So there's still some pieces to the puzzle that needs to be solved,
but a large percentage of Native American civilization came out of Asia.
They walked across.
They somehow or another made it to North America and spread out.
That's the theory.
There's that island off of near India, somewhere between India and Sri Lanka that has-
North Sentinel Island.
That's the one, right?
Yes.
With the black looking people.
Yes.
Well, they were from Africa.
Right.
And they stayed there.
Yes.
They got in boats 60,000 years ago and they landed in island, and they can't figure out how to get out.
They just stuck because they don't-
And they're still very primitive.
Yes, because they don't have metallurgy.
They're not even necessarily sure if they use fire.
It's really interesting.
To this day.
Yeah, to this day.
They believe, I mean, you're not supposed to visit them because it's like one of the rare,
true,
uncontacted tribes
left on Earth.
Yeah,
wasn't that guy
that went there
and he got killed?
Yes,
yeah,
I have a whole bit
about it.
Yeah,
about the missionary.
He went to bring
the Bibles.
Yeah,
that'll fucking teach you.
Well,
it's a poor idea.
It's a poor bastard.
I mean,
the last thing they need
is that.
Can't you give them
fire first,
for fuck's sakes?
Well,
these people had been fucked with, too.
There was a man named Commander Maurice Vidal Portman,
and he was like an explorer slash pervert who would travel the seas and find these tribes of people
and make them pose and take pictures with them wearing weird clothes and shit.
Oh, really?
Yeah, and he visited that place.
He visited a couple other places, and they think that people like that that visited,
that exploited these folks and fucked with these folks, gave them a very hostile take on intruders.
And so when people come, like that guy who came with the Bibles, he probably didn't do his history,
didn't read up on what had happened to these folks.
He thought it was just going to bring the Bibles.
Yeah, I got the good word, guys.
That poor bastard.
He's like, you know, he got killed with a bow and arrow on the beach holding a Bible.
I mean, that is a rough way to go.
I mean, at least he was holding his Bible.
Maybe.
At least.
It's like St. Dominic who died with holding the – I think he was holding a Bible when he got killed or something.
Was he?
The weird ones, I shouldn't say the weird ones, the more tragic ones currently are the ones that are in the Amazon because they get murdered by logging companies.
Yes.
They're trying to wipe them out so they can get those trees.
Exactly. They find them to be an impediment to their, I mean, not just trees, whatever natural resources they have,
they're trying to exploit in the Amazon, and they find these people slaughtered.
It happens, and also activists against these people attacking, they wind up getting murdered as well.
Yeah, because they don't know the difference.
Well, it's not even just that.
It's like they cause trouble for them like they're causing trouble for these companies that are
trying to exploit the natural resources of these areas it's a very interesting time we're living in
do the do you know that here's what's crazy do you know a lot of the amazon rainforest which is
this fucking insanely dense incredible rainforest a lot of it used to be populated and a lot of the
growth there is actually because of humans a lot of the plants and the reason why it's so dense
is because of the stuff that human beings planted there thousands of years ago and now we're trying
to get rid of it well it's not even just that we're trying to get rid of it they're just starting to
understand like the whole ecosystem of that area like why these why it's so dense and what what caused all this what caused all this intense like vegetation and brush.
And they think it's possible that a lot of it was caused by human beings.
Find out what tree that is that they planted.
But there's some insanely prolific tree that they tree that they were harvesting and planting in these areas,
and it took over.
You remember that Lost City of Z?
You remember that?
The movie, yeah.
Yeah.
That movie apparently was based on what would happen
when these explorers had originally come there.
Supposedly pristine, untouched Amazon rainforest
was actually shaped by humans.
Over thousands of years, native people played a strong role in molding the ecology of this
vast wilderness. So we assume that you see this dense jungle, oh, it's untouched,
but it actually, they don't think it was. So here it goes. Described the region of the world in a 1991 book marking the 500th
anniversary of Christopher Columbus
voyage to the new world
the native people were transparent in the landscape
living as natural elements in the
ecosphere their world was a
world of barely perceptible human disturbance
but was it really
in a less how do you say that word
rhapsodical verse
scholars in the past quarter century have shown that this mythical image of untouched nature is just that, a myth.
Like humans everywhere, Native Americans shaped their environments to suit them through burning, pruning, tilling, and other practices, and the Amazon is no different.
If you look closer, you see the deep impressions that humans have made on the world's largest tropical rainforest.
Scientists reported yesterday in the journal Science.
Despite its vastness, the Amazon stretches more than 2 million square miles and an estimated 390 billion trees.
This rainforest is hardly the untamable, unstoppable force of nature that the romantics opined, says Jose Iriarte, an archaeologist at the University of Exeter.
In fact, humans have inhabited the Amazon for roughly 13,000 years
and have been domesticating plants for at least 8,000.
And recent archaeological studies, especially in the last two decades,
show that indigenous populations in the past were more numerous, more complex,
and had a greater impact on the largest and most biodiverse tropical rainforest in the world than previously thought.
What's the lifespan of those untouched humans?
I don't know, man. Not so good.
But hold on a second. Stop right there.
Colleagues were taking inventory of the vast diversity of the Amazon trees. They sampled 1,100 scattered plots far from modern human inhabitants to identify more than 16,000 different species among those 390 billion individual plants.
Then they noticed something odd.
90 billion individual plants. Then they noticed something odd. Despite the broad diversity,
over half of the total trees were made up of just over 1% of the species. About 20 of these hyper-dominant plants were domesticated species, such as the Brazil nut, the Amazon tree grape,
and the ice cream bean tree. That was five times the amount researchers expected if the chances were the only
fact, if chance was the only factor.
The hypothesis came up
that perhaps people might have
domesticated these species, which would
have helped their abundance in the Amazon.
So they think they had domesticated
these species that they use for food
and then these species took over
and just dominated
the ecosphere.
Like a wild weed.
Yeah.
They've also started using something called LIDAR.
And LIDAR is something they use from planes.
And they scan the rainforest and underneath this insane, dense, vast jungle.
The LIDAR can see through?
Yeah.
The bush?
It can see through everything into the ground.
And they found these grids that indicate that there were cities there
So all this shit that's incredibly dense and and filled with trees now at one point in time had
complex like roadways and irrigation systems and they think that the the latest theory as it
Explores when they came there like like this Cabeza de Vaca
dude and these others that came from Europe
probably gave these people the plague.
They probably gave these people diseases
just like they did to... 90% of
all Native Americans were wiped out by disease
brought by European explorers.
They think that... I don't think that's
true. The blanket part is fake.
It's just being around them.
I think maybe there probably was some people that gave people dirty blankets, but that's not what spread.
It was just disease.
Just the fact that Europeans were dirty.
They came over on boats filled with rats and shit and fucking brought horrible diseases that these Native Americans didn't have any immune system for.
Well, they think the same thing probably happened to the Amazon.
any immune system for.
Well, they think the same thing probably happened to the Amazon.
And so these,
like the lost city of Z,
they think that these cities
really did exist,
that they did have
these incredible cities.
And then when they came back
just 20, 30 years later
looking for these places,
all they found was jungle.
It was overgrown.
Because the people were dead.
Yeah.
Because the people died
from the plague
and then everything got overgrown
like quickly by the jungle.
And then the dead bodies
probably fertilized the soil, which... Bro so these are this is these trees are human trees history
from morons for your pleasure you're welcome kids google all this though read from real sources
but it is interesting because you could see how this could happen. The world is a wild place, man,
and when human beings start doing what Cabeza de Vaca and Cortez did
and all these other folks did back in the day
where they would travel to these new places,
they would bring disease,
and they would kill off a lot of the people that were there.
They think that's what happened to the Mayans too.
Incredible civilization, beautiful structures.
Huge cities, the Mayans. too. You know? Incredible civilization. Beautiful structures.
Yeah, they had a huge, huge cities, the Mayans.
Yeah.
And some of it's still standing, you know?
Oh, yeah, man.
It's still to this day.
Fucking incredibly gorgeous, beautiful structures that were, that they mapped out the cosmos.
They, like, mirrored the cosmos.
They mirrored a lot of the constellations.
You know?
I'm excited. About what? about just learning about all this stuff you know i like i'm all about uh you know i'm not so impressed by the
tree but i'm more i want to know who planted that tree you know it's a very similar people
people trying to live man that's the thing right they were just trying to get by
just trying to stay alive then we got to find their their
writings that's yeah we find the writings and we need to find somebody who can trans
translate these writings well the mayan writings were weird they're kind of like a hieroglyph type
deal but i think the the way the mayans writing would work, they would have images that represented sounds
like you would have an,
someone explain this,
it might have been McKenna,
like the way it would be written,
so like you'd have an eye
and then you would have the sea
and then you would have an ant like the bug
and then you would have a rose like a flower
and that would be how you say
i see aunt rose yeah that's exactly how i read that when you said it in my head yeah and i thought
i was being funny in my head i was like no you're right yeah it's i forget what that kind of language
is called there's a very specific it's a specific kind of language it's almost like they were
talking emojis right yeah fucking jamie had this idea
but a while ago could you jamie jamie was saying like we were talking about like sending emojis to
go he goes do you think that like maybe eventually that will be our language that like emojis would
be and we were we were both i think we're pretty high at the time easily easy could happen possibly
i can't see you being high joe it's weird and we were saying
um that could eventually evolve to be the next language because how many times do you
is it an evolution or is it a devolution are we going back to that well it depends on how well
it communicates right if it communicates really well like right now like if someone sends you
like eggplant and then water and then the crying tear face like
that's probably like it's just funny yeah i love doing that to people yeah it's fun it's my favorite
one you know it's fun i try to have whole emoji conversations with people sometimes
you're you're kind of getting something across but what if eventually emojis became like a
universal language right like it kind of has been because you can
communicate with people through emoji sure and people that don't even speak english you communicate
with them with a lot of emojis these are all common denominators for everybody yeah not they're
not the best way of communicating they're not the best but you know it's helpful yeah but one day
maybe they'll have better emojis or another kind, like maybe some sort of three-dimensional
emoji that like, you know, works with AR,
you know, augmented reality, so it gives you like
a real inclination of what the person's trying to say
without knowing their language.
Yeah, like when I was about to,
when my friend texted me before I came here,
he was like, hey, good luck on,
and he didn't say Rogan, he sent me a gorilla. Good luck on, and I was like to, my friend texted me before I came here. He was like, hey, good luck on, and he didn't say Rogan. He sent me a gorilla.
Good luck on, and I was like, what?
What is that?
He goes, Rogan, he's a fucking gorilla.
I go, yeah, he is a gorilla, yeah.
I'm more of a chimp.
I don't know.
I think you're very silverbackish.
No, you ever seen a full-grown chimp?
They resemble me a lot, especially if I lift a lot, if I'm lifting.
You do have those apishly long arms, you know?
Yeah, primitive, sad.
That's why I'm so stupid too.
Yeah, you're clearly not the stupid one in this room.
Dumb genes.
Me and your security guys were talking and we're like, you know, we all said, we were talking about before you got here, we're like, you know, we all think we know something.
Then we talked to Joe and we go, I don't know shit.
Well, it's just me talking to so many people that know a lot and remembering remembering some of it.
That's what it is.
I mean, you got to think I'm like seventeen hundred deep into these fucking conversations with professors and scientists.
And I like when you have Neil on.
Oh, he's coming on soon.
Yeah, I'm excited to talk to him.
Yeah, he's coming on soon. Does he? Yeah, I'm excited to talk to him. He's a great guy.
I had a photographer at my house and he was a young black kid and he was taking
some pictures of me and he goes,
he was wearing shorts and I go, who's that on the back
of your calf? And he goes, oh, that's Neil deGrasse Tyson.
He's my idol. Wow.
So I took a picture of his calf and I sent it to Neil
and he goes, you need new friends.
That sounds like something he would
say. Yeah, he's a he's
i said it to him i said a buddy of mine has you tattooed on his leg and he goes
you need new friends i'm worried about your choice and friends guys like him are super important
science communicators that are also like fun like he's a fun guy yeah he gets the message out
yeah in a way that dumb people like myself can understand
exactly exactly and that's that's what's important so just just to be aware of the beauty of this
mystery of this little universe that we're floating around in and now they said you see that
they uh i don't know if it's real because you never know what the is real on the internet
anymore but they say they found some sort of uh fungus life on mars yes they think they don't know if it's real because you never know what the fuck is real on the internet anymore But they say they found some sort of fungus life on Mars. Yes, they think they don't know what it is
They said it blows away overnight or some shit. Hmm. They were like it was here yesterday. It's blown away now
It's some sort of fungus that can grow very quickly and then with a strong wind can go away
Well that makes then you would imagine Mars would be covered in fungus
Not necessarily like that not's blowing around like that.
Not necessarily because fungus exists here, but we're not covered in it, and it doesn't even blow away, right?
Like if you go out into a yard after rain, you'll find mushrooms that weren't there the day before.
They grow really quickly.
You ever tried those?
No, I don't know enough, and they'll kill you if you eat the wrong ones.
Right.
Like that mushroom picking business is tricky because you really have to know your stuff.
There's mushrooms that have extreme liver toxicity and they look just like edible mushrooms.
They're like real close.
Like you got to know, like I've had Paul Stamets on and he's explained to me the complex nature of understanding.
Like there's some mushrooms, like if you see a morel, morels on the ground.
Like have you ever eaten morel mushrooms?
I have not.
They're really delicious, and they're very rare.
What do they look like?
They look almost like a hollow pine cone.
They're weird looking.
But they're a fungus.
They're a fungus, and they grow quickly,
and they grow specifically around areas that have burned.
Oh, yes.
I've seen a lot of fungus around burn zones.
Yeah.
For some reason, morels are associated with burn areas.
Not all the time, but people go and pick them.
And they go morel hunting.
And then you eat them, and they're really delicious.
You saute them with butter and garlic salt. Oh, Russell. they go morel hunting and then you know you eat them and they're really delicious you like saute
them with butter and garlic salt oh russell what are you tasting though you're tasting butter and
garlic so no you're tasting they're they're a meaty chewy delicious mushroom they're really
nice and where do you get them well you got to get them online or hunt them you got to go go
you know they sound dried yeah they sell them dried. Yeah. You can
buy them. You buy them on Amazon and then they just rehydrate. Yeah. You soak them. What I do
is I, I take a, uh, like a large pot filled with water and I'll add salt to the water and I'll
soak them. And you know, a lot of dirt gets off too. So you strain it and rinse them off and I'll
soak them for a few hours and then, uh, saute them're nice i'm telling you that's what they look like when they're cooked
oh i think i've had those they are quite tasty bro they're delicious they're so delicious especially
they're a little charred like that yes nice i'm a texture guy so i like the crunch me too
do you do you enjoy indian food are you an indian food i do i love indian food i love it but i have
acid reflux i gotta I got to be careful.
I got to plan it when I'm going to eat Indian food.
What causes that?
I don't know.
I've had it my whole life.
I've literally had it my whole life.
And then a couple of weeks ago, I had the old spit roast under me.
Oh, did they?
The colon endo job.
And right before I went under, I told the doctor, I said, put an apple in my mouth.
And then I passed out.
And then I woke up, and he goes, how was it?
I go, it was fine, except for both your hands are on my shoulders.
Now, what do they do for you when you get the acid reflux?
Do they prescribe a medication?
Yeah, I'm on a medication.
I mean, it's also very, it's not fixable, but it's manageable by what you eat as well, you know.
For me, it's mostly about for sleep.
If I don't have enough sleep and I decide I want to eat something that I know could trigger me, it'll really trigger me if I haven't slept enough.
Oh, so like you're tired, if you're worn out.
Yeah, yeah.
But if I've slept enough, I can eat whatever the fuck I want, do whatever I want.
That's the same thing with getting sick.
You know, it's amazing how much your immune system
sort of regulates everything. And when you're
tired, your immune system is weakened.
And I know a lot of people that have gotten
like really sick, where they probably
wouldn't have gotten sick, because they're
run down, like fighters.
They're training for big
fights. Like a lot of people think, oh, fighters
are in great shape.
They must be really healthy.
No, especially when they're trying to make weight.
When they dehydrate their entire body, that's insane.
But even just the training itself, when they're breaking themselves down,
a lot of times fighters get sick.
A lot of fighters have gotten COVID pretty bad because they were in the middle
of fight camp and they didn't stop training.
Like Cody Garbrandt, he had COVID, he got sick,
and he kept training through it.
So he just kept beating his body up.
Like they're too tough for their own good.
Yeah, you got to listen to your body,
especially the older you get.
You can't ignore the signs, you know?
Yeah.
So did they tell you what you should and shouldn't eat?
No, that's what I was hoping for. And he was like, no, you seem fine. I'm tell you what you should and shouldn't eat no that's what i was hoping for
and he was like no you seem fine i'm like what the fuck and what does acid reflux do like you
have like it's uh like a burp almost it's a bad burp but you know your eyes are gonna water because
it burns when it gets up here so like that's the acid yeah the stomach juices burns burns like my
nose will run my eyes of water on a bad one. I've had some bad episodes.
Stress will bring it out too.
And how long does it last?
I mean, depending on how bad of an episode I have,
I try to control it as best I can.
I'm aware of how it's going to affect me,
when it's going to affect me, if I eat too much,
if I eat too late,
if I try to go to bed too soon after eating.
Have you ever tried fasting?
Yeah, fasting's great for me you ever tried fasting? Yeah.
Fasting's great for me. Does that work? Yeah. It works well for me. How many days have you done?
I don't do days. I do like 16 hours. Oh, that's good. Then I'll eat something. I haven't done days either. I've done 24 hours. That's the most I've ever done. Yeah. I, um, well, recently I just,
I went like 22 hours. It wasn't, I was trying, wasn't trying to, I just had gone 22 hours without
eating and I was like, I feel fine.
George St. Pierre just did a three-day one.
He said he felt fucking amazing.
I'm thinking about trying it.
I just have to time it right.
Isn't there talks of him fighting somebody again?
There's talks.
There's talks of him fighting Khabib or something?
Yeah, but I don't think Khabib is going to fight again,
and I don't think George is going to either.
I think George is done.
You know, George is very happy and comfortable with his life now,
and he's got his health.
How old is George now, at 37?
38.
38.
He's still got a lot of time left.
Not really.
You don't think so?
No.
I mean, when you're that elite and you don't let yourself go ever.
Right, but there's a difference between,
it's a big difference between a 33-year-old Kamaru Usman
and a 38-year-old George St. Pierre.
There's a difference.
George is the top of the food chain at 38, right?
In terms of how fit he is,
how well he takes care of his body,
doesn't abuse himself, he's always in shape,
and he's always working out.
He's always doing something.
He's always doing gymnastics, he does these pool workouts,
he's always doing jujitsu and kickboxing.
He has not stopped.
But he's still 38. True. Kamaru showed a lot of improvement over the years too like every
fucking time dude every time i see him he's like the he's like the canelo of the ufc almost to me
he's he's a real champion is what he is you know what i mean i'm curious to see how israel's gonna
bounce back now oh he'll be fine oh he'll be fine i agree it's just i just think when you're
going up to 205 you got to go up to 205 you know the especially when it comes to the wrestling
weight's real and that guy jan bohovic that's a scary motherfucker that dude that that guy
you talk about power like how people just have power he's just got power like he's got crazy preposterous one punch power and you
always have to worry about that and then when he got Izzy down and he controlled
him on the ground he's just size and strength is real man you're doing Izzy
never gained any weight so he went in and weighed in I think like 190
something well Hovich weighed 205 and probably went up to 220-ish, you know,
during the actual fight itself.
So, you know, you're talking about –
Israel's a thin guy to begin with.
I mean, he's got to grow into that size as opposed to try and put it on.
But he'll fight anybody, man.
He doesn't give a fuck.
He'll go up to heavyweight.
And he's a really nice kid.
He's the nicest.
Oh, my God.
I've talked with him on Instagram.
We DM each other and just put a sweet guy.
I started contacting him long before he ever fought in the UFC.
Really?
Yeah, I was asking him when he's going to do it.
Because I had heard rumblings that he was thinking about making a leap into fighting MMA.
And back then, he was just kickboxing.
And I was just a big fan of his style.
Like, I mean, how could you not be?
You watch his kickboxing highlight reel.
Like, if you think Izzy is great in MMA, and he I've seen some old clips of him he's fantastic fucking kickboxing
he's a genius man and he's so thin but he's got a lot of power oh well he's so accurate he's just
so he's very Anderson-ish he's creative and intelligent and sharp and everything he does
when he's not ring-worn right Yeah, he's only been KO'd once,
and that was a brutal one against Alex Pereira,
who's this ruthless knockout striker.
And that was in?
That was in, I think it was in Glory.
Might not have been in Glory.
Might have been in another kickboxing league.
I'm not sure.
I think it was Glory.
But either way, Alex is a two-division Glory kickboxing champion.
Did he have a rematch?
They fought twice.
Alex won a decision the first time, and he KO'd him the second time.
Really?
Yeah.
I think the first fight was close.
The second fight, Izzy had him in real trouble, too.
He had him really in trouble.
And a lot of people thought the fight should have been stopped,
but that's probably Izzy fans. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's a lot of people thought the fight should have been stopped, but that's probably Izzy fans.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, there's a lot of that when that happens.
When a guy should and shouldn't be stopped is so controversial.
You know, it's like Cowboy Cerrone this weekend, right?
The Alex Marino fight.
I didn't get to see it.
It was rough to watch.
I'm assuming Alex won.
Yeah, he stopped him in the first round.
Alex is a bad motherfucker, though.
He's tough as shit.
And Cerrone's a tough guy, but I think he's had a lot of bad knockouts lately.
I'm not going to be the one to tell Donald Cerrone to not fucking fight anymore,
but as a fan.
I wish fighting didn't hurt.
Well, I mean, I think that's probably.
You know what I mean?
It's kind of the essence of it.
I know.
I wish it didn't hurt people. It's kind of the essence of it. I know. I wish it didn't hurt people.
I wish you got out of your career and you didn't have to deal with brain damage and body damage.
But that's also one of the reasons why it's so wild and exciting to watch is, you know, there's severe consequences to their actions, you know?
What about that fight that was supposed to happen with Anderson Silva and Julio Cesar cesar chavez jr that's still happening is that happening i think it's
happening in june see if you can find out when that's happening yeah they're he's taking a boxing
match i mean at least he's taking it against the guy in the boxing world who's not very well
respected he might not be as respected as some but julio Cesar Chavez Jr. is still a fucking beast.
You cannot sleep on that guy.
He is a dangerous man.
He hits very hard.
He is, but he doesn't have the work ethic that he needs.
I think that's what his problem is.
Remember when he fought Canelo?
Yeah.
And he basically just went into a defensive shell and just survived.
But he did survive.
Billy Joe Saunders didn't survive.
But you have to say Canelo today is better than the Canelo of then.
See, what we're talking about.
Canelo of last weekend is better than the Canelo of the fight before.
I mean, he's a continuously improving fighter.
He talks about that, too.
He talked about that in one of the interviews that we're talking to him about pre-fight, about maintaining his energy.
And he's like, just because I'm at the top doesn't mean I'm going to slow down.
He goes, no, no, no.
I'm going to keep going, keep going, keep that same energy.
He understands it.
Well, he understands he's hit this rare air where he's the number one pound-for-pound
fighter on earth, and he's just so dominant.
He's so dominant.
That fight with Billy Joe was so interesting.
I was getting mad at people who were talking shit after this.
June 19th.
Who's Chavez Sr. fighting then? Oh at people who were talking shit after this. June 19th.
Who's Chavez Sr. fighting then?
Oh, boy.
Hector Camacho Jr.
Wow.
Wow.
Julio Chavez Sr.
That's kind of crazy.
Yeah, Sr. beat up Camacho.
That's why, didn't he?
Wow.
That's crazy.
He beat up Jr.'s dad.
Did he?
I think he did, like in the 90s.
What? Did he fight him? I think he did, like in the 90s. What?
Did he fight him?
I think he might.
Check BoxRec.
He may have.
I do not think that Hector Camacho beat Julio Cesar Chavez.
Edwin Rosario was the one that gave Camacho a rough fight,
and that's what made Camacho change his style.
Really?
Yeah.
Edwin El Chapo Rosario.
He closed Hector's eyes in that fight. Hector Camacho? Yeah. Edwin El Chapo Rosario. He closed Hector's eyes in that fight.
Hector Camacho?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's the one that made Camacho the more defensive fighter after that.
I'm conflating.
I thought you were talking about Julio Cesar Chavez.
No, no, no.
But I'm saying I think Chavez himself, yeah, he did.
He fought Hector Camacho.
Inanimate decision.
He won.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's when he was undefeated. I thought you were saying, unanimous decision. He won. Yeah. Yeah. That's when he was undefeated.
I thought you were saying, I'm sorry,
I thought you were saying that Hector Camacho
would beat Julio Cesar Chavez.
No, no, no, no, no.
That was never the case.
No, Chavez beat his ass.
That was when Chavez was the king.
There's only one fight there, that Purnell-Whitaker fight.
That's a questionable one.
They ripped off Purnell.
I believe that.
Every time Purnell fought a guy from Culiacan,
he lost to Jose Luis Ramirez, shady decision.
And then he lost to Chavez, bad decision.
He lost to De La Hoya, bad decision.
I don't remember the De La Hoya fight, honestly.
Oh, yeah.
Listen, Purnell got fucked so bad in boxing with decisions.
Yeah, well, for sure he did in the Chavez one.
That was a bad one where a lot of people... Even the De La Hoya
fight, he got fucked on that deal. Yeah, I believe you.
I don't remember that fight, though.
That's one of those ones where I'd have to go back.
There's so many fights.
You can only store so many of them in your head.
I know every time I meet a fighter,
I'm like, hey, I remember you. And it'd be like
some bum, like, not a bum, but like a
journeyman, you know? And I'm like, and they think
you don't know. And I'm like, I remember you. Yeah, but like a journeyman, you know? And I'm like, and they think you don't know. And I'm like, I remember you.
Yeah, you were a good fighter, you know?
Like, remember that guy?
Greg Haugen.
Greg Haugen.
I remember Greg Haugen.
Remember when Greg Haugen fought Chavez?
Wasn't he from Boston, Greg Haugen?
Oh, maybe.
Maybe in Hampshire.
No, I was thinking Bobby Chiz, I'm thinking.
Bobby Chiz was from New Jersey, I believe.
I think Greg Haugen was from just outside the bronx what's that area there
greg haugen yeah oh he was uh i want to say he was from massachusetts or new hampshire or some shit
but i might be thinking to him i might be thinking of um uh joey gamache who was joey gamache
he was from maine yeah he was trying to come up on the- Greg Haugen. Auburn, Washington.
So he's from Washington State.
You know who used to train with Greg Haugen?
It was Joey Medina.
Really?
Yeah, they were stablemates at some point.
No shit.
Yeah.
Well, when he fought Julio Cesar Chavez, well, how old is Chavez then if Chavez is fighting again?
If Haugen is 60?
I think Chavez is like in his late 50s if i'm not an animal animal 58 58
fighting again i mean that's a guy who's you know in his prime dude the greg haugen fight was him
in his pro see find uh julio suez chavez versus greg howard i was watching a uh like a video that
was breaking down what happened with that fight.
Because Haugen had decided, he had played the bad guy, right?
And he had taunted him and saying that he fought a bunch of Tijuana cab drivers.
Oh, yeah.
He was great at talking shit.
But, my God, he was a monster.
Look at that liver shot.
Bro, he was so accurate.
He knew exactly where you were going to be.
Julio Cesar Chavez in the day was so slick. I mean, everything about him was so accurate he knew exactly where you were gonna be Julio Cesar Chavez in the day was so
slick I mean everything about him was so good and he would walk through you oh my god and it just
his ripping shots the body always to the liver always looking for the liver shot and his endurance
was off the charts like the volume of strikes that he would put on you he beat the fuck out of Greg
Hogan in this fight and then after the fight, Greg Haugen was like, well, they must've been some pretty fucking tough cab drivers. And then they hugged.
It was kind of cool. Yonkers. I think he fought out of Yonkers at some point. Haugen did? Yeah.
It was another fight out of Yonkers too back then. Chavez was absolutely one of my all-time favorites.
When he was in his prime, he was just perpetual motion, man. Frankie Randall died last year.
Well, Frankie Randall was the guy that really ended Chavez's reign, right?
Dropped him with the right hand.
He was the first guy to drop him.
Yeah.
Where did Frankie Randall die from?
I don't know, to be honest with you.
Frankie the Surgeon Randall, I remember that clearly, though.
He had a piston of a right hand.
And he had that knight.
I remember when he fought Chavez, he had those green gloves.
It was like this lime green.
Really?
I remember that.
It was like a baby blue.
It was one of those pleasing colors to me.
I remember as a kid.
He beat him twice.
Remember?
Yeah.
He beat him in the rematch, too.
Beat him in the rematch.
Well, Frankie just had that style.
He had a perfect style for Julio.
But also, Julio was, you know, who knows how many fights in his career.
He was on his way to 100-0.
God.
And Frankie had stopped.
It was like Chavez was in his 90-something fight.
That's crazy.
100-0 is crazy.
Yeah, when it comes to all-time greats, Rando died 59, a result of dementia.
Wow, that early too.
Oh, man.
That's crazy. Wow, that's just. Oh, man. That's crazy.
Wow, that's just-
What about those people that say Saunders quit?
I'm like, his fucking face was caved in.
Go back to that, Jamie.
Look at that.
Chavez was 89-0-1.
That's what it was, yeah.
Fuck.
89-0.
Yeah, the draw was with who?
With Purnell.
I don't know.
Was it? I think it was. Was that a draw? I think it was, yeah. The draw was with who? With Purnell. I don't know. Was it?
I think it was.
Was that a draw?
I think it was, yeah.
The draw was with Purnell.
Oh.
I thought he lost a decision.
I thought Purnell lost a decision.
Was it a draw?
It might have been a draw.
If it was a draw, how the fuck did they not fight again?
Yeah, it was a draw.
A majority decision draw at the top there.
Oh.
There it is right there.
Wow.
Majority decision.
But that's a majority decision.
That's not a draw.
Well, it's still a draw.
No.
No, majority decision means one fighter.
It's a split decision.
No, you can still get a...
How does that work?
But a majority decision is not a draw, is it?
I think one...
Split decision.
No, what it is is that-
Loss.
Frankie Randall.
One judge had it for Purnell, one judge had it for Chavez, and then one judge had it draw.
Really?
Yeah, and I think if you're the champ, you get the-
Oh, I see.
You get to keep your-
Oh, a majority draw.
That's what it is.
It's not a majority decision.
We're thinking of it the wrong way.
Right.
Yeah.
Okay.
That makes sense.
And most people thought that Purnell won.
I thought so too.
When a guy is as loved
as Julio Cesar Chavez and then the
odds on him are so high
of him winning, then
everybody gets weird, right?
They want to protect the records.
There's been some judges too, especially in Vegas
that will never work again because they
put in, in like remember when um uh remember when manny pacquiao lost to um oh desert storm yeah it um
tim bradley tim bradley that's right yeah sorry tim that's brain fart he's a great commentator
too by the way he's a good commentator he's very good the problem is he always looks like he wants
to he's always talking about well what i if problem is he always looks like he wants to...
He's always talking about...
It seems like he wants to come back, but he's not
going to come back. Well, you know, he's
a great fighter. When you're a great fighter, you look
at things through the eyes of what you
did or what you could do.
That's the only way to do it.
Well, Lennox is a fucking great commentator.
Lennox is a great commentator. I've been hanging out with him a lot
lately, actually. Yeah. You know who doesn't do that, who is a great fighter, who doesn't talk? great commentator. Lennox is a great commentator. I've been hanging out with him a lot lately, actually. Yeah.
You know who doesn't do that, who is a great fighter, who doesn't talk?
Roy Jones Jr.
Roy Jones Jr. is a fantastic commentator.
Yeah, I like Roy when he commentates as well.
I was asking, who was I asking?
I was asking Sugar Ray Leonard why he doesn't train anybody.
And he said he can't train somebody who doesn't.
He's never met somebody who has the same desire he had. And I can't train somebody who doesn't – he's never met somebody who has the same desire he had.
And I can't train – he said, I can't train somebody who's not going to dig as deep as I digged.
Doug, rather.
That makes sense, I guess.
I was like, I just can't.
I'm sure he could find someone.
But, you know, a lot of great fighters are not great trainers, you know.
Yeah.
Well, those who can't do, right?
Well, it's not just that. Some who are – Buddy McGirt's a great trainer. He's a great fighter and a great trainers, you know? Yeah. Well, those who can't do, right? Well, it's not just that.
Some who are great.
Buddy McGirt's a great trainer.
He's a great fighter and a great trainer.
Yeah.
Some do become great.
I mean, it's really just a matter of your personality.
John David Jackson is another guy.
Great fighter, great trainer.
Yep.
It doesn't always work that way, though.
Like Marvin Hagler never trained anybody that I know of, did he?
No, I don't think so.
I think when he was done, he was done done he walked right away from the sport yeah man
disheartened and angry and because he got he got fucked over early in his career too
oh yeah yeah yeah yeah he did but he also is one of the all-time greats yeah i mean the the legacy
the that guy left he's from your state. Fuck yeah. Brockton, Massachusetts.
Marvelous Marvin.
It was a beast.
I remember the first time I went to a strip joint when I was 16.
You went to a strip joint when you were 16? So my boxing coach took me.
Oh my God.
To go see the Leonard Hagler fight.
Oh, they had it at a strip joint?
Yeah, because it was.
How distracting.
Well, no, here's the thing. It was. Well, joint yeah because it was uh how distracting well no here's the thing
it was uh well for me it was horribly distracting it was it was uh closed circuit back then so he
took me right he took me to the strip joint about three or four miles from my house and he's like
come on we're gonna go watch the haggler leonard fight and he took me walked me right into the
strip joint and he paid whatever the cover charge i think it was 10 bucks and i had never seen naked women in my like in real life right and i just remember sitting in
perverts row and i didn't care about the fight at that point i was just like oh my god there's a
vagina in front of me and i was i could only imagine the look on my face i was just like ah
and then the club never got the fight so they started
throwing bottles in the club and i'm not even paying the bottles are whizzing past my head and
i'm just just staring at vaginas so like there was a problem with the pay-per-view yeah something
happened with the with their feed and everybody hit they were kicking everybody they made an
announcement everybody please exit the building we're giving refunds on the way out and and i was just like all right i i got up and i walked out i got my i got 10 bucks and i was like where the
fuck's my coach he left because they didn't have a fight so he went to another place and he wasn't
about to find me he was just like 16 he just left you there he just left me there and i and i walked
out i got 10 but i walked back in to try and find him again. And then when I walked, I got another $10.
And I was like, I'm up $20 right now.
I'm 16 with $20.
1987 with $20.
Are you kidding me?
Did you take a cab home?
No, I jogged home.
Oh, with the $20 in your pocket.
Yeah, it was late.
And I was a young kid.
I was boxing.
So I was-
Use it as an excuse to do some road work.
I jogged home.
I was happy.
I didn't even notice the jog.
I was just like, I got home. And I remember painting the ceiling when I got back that night.
It was just like, wow.
These kids today, they don't know.
They don't know.
They can watch fights on their phones.
You could watch the Canelo fight.
You could have been anywhere.
If you have 5G, you just pull up your phone, get on the Zone app, and you can watch the fight anywhere you are.
Back in our day, we had to go places.
Yeah.
Remember those days, the closed circuit days?
I was in Omaha when the fight happened, so I don't know where I was going to watch this.
I was in my green room, and my assistant, Eddie, texts me.
He goes, hey, fool, the fight's starting.
And I was about to go on stage.
I go, all right.
I thought he meant like the card was starting.
Oh, the actual fight. Yeah, so when I got off, I as the main event so he goes. Yeah, I text you already fool
I'm like all right
No, what happened he goes go look at the highlights and I opened up my Instagram and there was that fucking uppercut he hit him
With my god nasty the Canelo is in this weird place where he's kind of cleaned out the division, right?
He's got Caleb plant right and not just that division. He's kind of cleaned out the division, right? He's got Caleb Plant. Right.
And not just that division.
He's kind of cleaned out a lot of divisions.
Triple G is still in the fucking running, which is interesting.
He hasn't fought in two years.
No, he fought recently.
Triple G fought.
He fought last year.
Yeah.
It's been a year, though, definitely since he fought last.
I don't think it's quite a year because I was in Texas.
I watched it in Texas.
Live or?
Yeah, yeah.
Find out when he fought.
But he looked fucking good, dude.
Not only did he look good, he looked ripped.
So I was like, hmm, piss test, please.
Because he's like 38.
Oh, he's bordering 40 real quick.
Looked as good as he's ever looked.
He looked phenomenal.
December.
Oh, December.
There you go.
Oh, okay.
So it's not been that long
then yeah so uh yeah so so is he fighting when is he fighting again then well they're talking
about him possibly fighting canelo he's i don't think that's a good fight for him anymore for him
maybe not but maybe the last chance at romance i mean how much more of an option does he have
where's he gonna go where what else does he have but the first fight i thought he won definitely i? What else does he have? But the first fight, I thought he won.
Definitely.
I was at that one.
Yeah, I thought he won the first fight.
I was ringside there.
The second fight, very close.
Very close.
And Teddy Atlas was saying they should have given it to Triple G.
A lot of other people favored Canelo,
but a much better performance for Canelo.
But I think Canelo, like we said,
these guys like Kamaru Usman, like Can canelo alvarez like these guys who are just
consummate champions you're just going to get a better version of them every single time they
step into the ring every single time they get in the cage kamaru shows improvement every impressive
improvement like a like a young fighter he shows improvement like a 22 year old guy who's just
learning the game like i was nervous when he fought Covington. I was at that fight.
And I remember sitting, I was sitting, I was sitting with Covington's family because Chuck Zito got me the tickets.
So I was sitting there.
And then when the main event started, I noticed all the MAGA hats and, you know, and Candace Owens was sitting there.
And I was like, fuck, I don't want to be on this side.
I don't want my friends to see me sitting here. So Clay Guida was sitting across the aisle, and I go, Clay, who's sitting there?
He said, nobody.
Some sit with me.
So I moved across the aisle and sat with Clay.
That's funny.
Dude, did you see, speaking of manga, did you see Shane Gillis' sketch that he did on Trump doing speed dating?
No.
Holy shit, is it funny.
Who's Shane Gillis?
Shane Gillis is the guy that got kicked off of Saturday Night Live.
Oh, right.
Yeah, he got hired from Saturday Night Live,
and then they found him on a podcast talking shit.
Just random like this, just words, nothing.
Fucking around like comics do.
We spitball and say the most obscene things,
and then we realize this works, this doesn't work.
The problem is people take things out of context absolutely 100 i'm telling you man you got to watch this like
you'd have to watch it like we i don't want to play it i want people to watch it trump speed
dating gilly and keeves uh it's only got 29 000 views it should have 29 million it's fucking
brilliant i'll put it up on on twitter or whatever
later today it's so good it's so funny man it's brilliant have you done um shit it's horrible i
can't remember the guy's name and he's a friend of mine too and i just did his podcast uh he does
it in character um jim norton no no no no he does chipperson? No, he was an SNL member at one point, too.
He does it in character.
He'll do a different character every time he interviews you.
So when I did it, he did it as Jimmy Fallon.
Who are you talking about?
Fucking hell.
Do you know who he's talking about?
Jamie?
I feel bad.
And the worst part is he's a friend.
Real good friend?
Yeah.
Real tight?
Yeah.
If somebody says hey that
hilarious guy from canada you know who he is you're gonna get a hurt real bad but oh yeah that
guy jeff richards oh no i haven't done it no yeah he just yeah when when i did it he did it as a
fallon and then he just had on uh sherry o'terry and he did it as a different character it was
really funny no add-on had on recently from Saturday Night Live
Jim Brewer
he was fucking fantastic
I watched it
it was awesome
he's so funny man
that guy
you want to talk about
a guy who never got
his just due
never got his
like his respect
that he deserves
as a comic
he's one of the funniest
fucking guys ever
he's so funny
you know what it was
they look at
you know the industry here's your opportunity in the 90s the game is shot a little they gave it
early and he excelled with it and then for some reason they just they move on he didn't want to
do it anymore no with him it's not that it's not that they move on he didn't give a fuck like he
even talked to his wife about it she was like why why do you keep doing the show it makes you
miserable he had terrible things to say about doing the show he did not enjoy it
He had terrible things to say about the way he was treated the way they would rip off
Material and steal sketches from each other and not good. I mean him and Dave Dave really they were they worked together a lot
Oh, yeah, well half-baked you know yeah half-baked then they had a sitcom together
They did in the 90s. Yeah, they were like it was like a buddy buddy show really
yeah there's a lot of those sitcoms that's what happened that's how him and dave forged the
friendship for half-baked oh really buddies it was called buddies yeah there you go show me what
that looked like i'm kind of vaguely remembering this yeah i remember uh buddies yeah wow okay Richard Cronin
look at
look at
well yeah
they're on
Home Improvement
there but
oh
was it an ABC sitcom
is that what it was
I think this was like
this is what spawned
the spinoff for them
oh
wow
sitcoms
boy
I was on set
for Half Baked
a lot
hanging out in Dave's trailer back then in the
night he was shot in toronto and i would hang out in dave's trailer he had a white uh pomeranian
named felonious back then dave's always been a fucking amazing guy he's on another level now
oh it's incredible we've been doing a lot of shows together yeah it's uh he's he's beautiful i love i love what he stands for too
we put this clip up on the uh instagram i saw the kindness conspiracy that's really how he is man
it's like he's always been like that too it's not like it's not a new thing for him he's always been
that guy he's always been a sweetheart of a guy but now he's like he's really like trying to push
that out there see as far as i'm concerned he's the real woke like that to me is what woke
should be right it's not this fake angry woke yeah it's a real wokeness he has it's not well
woke is tainted the word's tainted but real compassionate kind well that's what woke should
be if you're actually woke you'll be compassionate and understanding to other people's ways of
thinking but i think the what woke means to a lot of people that adopt it
is like activism, you know, like calling people out
and yelling at people and a lot of this very angry shit
that we see online today.
But, you know, a lot of it is also you're just dealing
with a lot of people that are very unhappy,
and they're unhappy and they express that unhappiness
through attacking.
Well, there's too much voices for people that don't need a voice.
Ooh, look what you said.
You know what I mean?
And you know what I'm noticing too?
It's not so much that there's these people externally, it's the industry itself that's
doing this.
Well, it's the world that's doing this and it's accentuated through social media.
I mean, if you ever see the documentary, The Social Dilemma, they talk about how this is
happening and that the algorithms
are actually enhancing and even reinforcing this kind of behavior. People aren't necessarily
naturally inclined to form these tribes and hate on people that disagree with them.
People, I think, generally speaking, would like to be reasonable.
People like to get along with people.
They have opinions, but they like to get along with people.
But when you reinforce these thought bubbles and you reinforce these echo chambers,
which is what online algorithms do, whether it's Facebook or Twitter or whatever.
It's also about how you look to other people.
It's so much about appearance as opposed to the substance behind it.
What do you mean?
Well, people, you know, you put this face out for the social media world,
and then you're this piece of shit behind it.
Right.
There's a lot of that.
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
And there's a whole generation of it now.
This whole chicken nugget generation that's coming up right now.
Chicken nugget generation?
Yeah, because that's how their fucking palate is chicken nuggets.
They grew up eating fucking chicken nuggets. Our kids are the chicken nugget generation yeah because that's how their fucking palate is chicken nuggets you know they grew up eating fucking chicken nuggets our kids are the chicken nugget generation well
these kids are definitely they're weird in the way they think you should communicate you know
growing up communicating online it's got to be fucking terrible for the way your brain functions
the way your brain forms it's the same thing with shopping and music and everything. There's a reason that things are very thin and shallow.
Yeah.
But it's also, coincidentally, at the same time, this is the best time ever for long-form intelligent conversations.
So think of that.
It is, but it's not being used that way.
But it is right here.
Well, right here it is.
But there's a lot of these.
But you also have people our age that are doing
this because we understand both sides of this coin yeah but there's some kids in their 20s that have
some pretty badass podcasts people are trying they're talking about things and this is the
antidote or at least the counterpoint to this uh shallow online culture i feel like andrew schultz
is the guy that can speak to the younger generation, as well as our generation can talk to each other.
He's that conduit between our world and their world.
He's certainly one of them, for sure.
And he's one of the most intelligent and reasonable guys
of the young up-and-coming generation.
He's one of the most thoughtful, also one of the most clever,
in terms of the choices he makes and the most he's the most one of the most thoughtful also one of the most clever yes in terms of like the choices he makes and the way he like like doing the thing that he did for netflix and taking the time during the pandemic to innovate and yep i'm a big fan of the way he moves
absolutely i i also feel like he's the guy who can explain to these people why these people are this
way right and why this isn't bad and why
why it should be okay yeah well that's what he did with those netflix clips absolutely yeah
those killed it and there's so many fucking jokes that he drops in there it's like watching an
episode of veep you don't you know you catch jokes you have to watch it five six times in
order to catch every joke well his is like visuals and punchline
after punchline after punchline it's incredible rapid fire oh yeah it's like a fucking semi
automatic coming at you yeah well you know the every generation needs someone who's out there
pushing the boundaries and out there you know trying to innovate and trying to you know hustle
he's a non-tapper he won't tap that's right that's right
he's not tapping some people tap too quick yeah i tapped with you quick but uh it was in pain
what do you want from me you yeah you listen you had me in a calf slicer that fucking thing hurts
dude that was not a calf slicer it was a calf slicer onto the on the way to the move i was
just setting up the twist yeah that hurts i'm glad i tapped when
i tapped i'll tell you this i'm i wasn't mean to you though no you weren't me making it seem like
no no no you listen you weren't a bully okay you had me in a move on the way to a move uh-huh you
know it's it's pressure it's like tapping because of pressure it's the same thing a lot you know
john jack's not gonna tap from pressure well he's not going to John Jack's not
going to tap
you're not getting
him in that position
did I ever tell you
when I was rolling
with him
must have been
about a year and a half
ago
my ankle to this day
still hurts
from what
because
he's in my guard
and I had my leg
up high
on his back
and I'm like
ooh
I'm going to try
rubber guard
oh no
so I had my leg up high on his back like right I'm like, ooh, I'm going to try rubber guard. Oh, no. So I had my leg up high on his back, like right around here, you know?
And he feels my leg up high, and I reach over, and he goes,
you're not flexible enough.
And having never done rubber guard, seeing videos of Eddie do it
and all these guys in 10th Planet do it
and I go, I'm going to try rubber guard.
But because he said, you're not flexible enough,
my ego went, I'm going to fucking go for it.
And I didn't know that I had to grab my leg.
I grabbed my foot.
Oh.
And I cranked my foot.
And you hurt your own ankle?
I hurt my own.
To this day, it still hurts.
Yeah. Yeah, I literally, I i hurt my own to this day it still hurts yeah yeah i i literally i
fucked myself over to this day to this day did you get an mri or anything no i have not but it's
not been hurting lately and my girl gets mad because i'm like babe can you run my ankle it's
swollen today it's she goes no i'm fucking tired and that's the problem when you date a girl your
own age you're like you can't you can't pull
the same old man shit on her you're both exhausted yeah i'm like that's hilarious i'm like you don't
know what it's like i'm gonna be 51 this year's like mother fucker i'm gonna be 49 i don't need
your bullshit i'm like god damn it yeah you got to be careful with the rubber guard rubber guard
you want to grab below the ankle you want yes yes guess guess who figured that out yeah you want to
get it right here yeah so you want it underneath i you want to get it right here. This is what you want. So you want it underneath.
I was trying to go from over the top.
I went over the top and grabbed my foot.
Yeah, you don't want to do that.
But there is sometimes you do grab your foot.
Yeah.
Sometimes when you double bag, you have to grab your foot.
You have to grab your foot and make a transition.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did.
I found out the hard way.
You should take some 10th Planet classes.
I really should.
Learn some shit.
I would like to do it with Eddie.
Yeah, he'll do it.
I'll set it up.
Yeah, that'd be great.
Eddie's the best.
Because I know Eddie's been going gi lately.
Oh, he'll do both.
He likes to fuck around with gi.
Yeah, he's been coming back and hanging out and doing gi.
Yeah, when I met Eddie, he was all gi.
Yeah.
I saw pictures.
I didn't know he had long hair and stuff.
Oh, he had crazy long hair back when he was in his rock and roll days.
He used to put his hair in like a scuba helmet.
Not a scuba helmet, like a mask.
He would tuck all his hair because he had this – his hair down to his ass.
It was like a metal head.
So he would – I don't know what he would do, but he would wrap it all up like a seek
and fucking tuck it in this fucking –
Tie it under his chin and stuff?
He had this whole fucking scuba thing that he would put on his head.
Yeah.
The guys roll.
A lot of the black belts in the gym are,
they're like,
you know,
we used to think he was a weird guy.
Look at him.
He's so pretty.
Beautiful face.
What lips.
Look at his features.
I'm just happy when people come to go,
Hey Eddie.
I go,
no,
it's Russell.
And I'm like,
all right.
They think you look like Eddie. I think I look like, I go no it's Russell and I'm like all right they think you look like I think I look like I posted a picture of
him and I and I were together and I go we are not the same person why the fuck
things you guys a lot of people think because of my hair and his hair you know
okay and you know I guess those people need to go maybe big eyes hey man I'm
happy when they make that come when they last man they just see pictures. They go, I must be Eddie.
You ever seen Eddie do stand-up?
I've been in the room when he's done it.
Bro, he's got some funny shit.
Because he's nuts.
He's fucking funny.
He is funny because he's insane.
He's definitely insane, but he's got some bits about,
well, I don't want to give away the premises.
I'll fuck it up.
But he made me laugh, like legitimately made me laugh.
I started getting him to do open mic nights. God. Five, six years ago, maybe? I'll fuck it up but he made me laugh like legitimately made me laugh he uh
I started getting him
to do open mic nights
like
god
five six years ago maybe
way long time ago
and he quit
he did it like
this was like 2003
somewhere around then
is uh
Sam out here now
Tripoli
yeah
no I don't believe so
where did he move to
didn't he move
did he move
I heard he moved
I don't know
so LA's kinda opening up again, right?
Yeah.
I think the store opened this past weekend.
Yeah.
You're the Pied Piper, though.
Everybody came out.
Joe's going.
We're going.
Well.
It's a great place.
There's a lot of clubs out here now.
Aren't you?
Are you opening one?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
When's that happening?
It's complicated.
I'll tell you off air.
Okay.
There's a lot going on.
It's not easy to do one of those things.
Well, when it eventually does open, I would love to play it.
You will. That would be great. When it does easy to do one of those things. Well, when it eventually does open, I would love to play it. You will.
That would be great.
When it does, 100%, you will.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, when I send up the bat signal, you'll be one of the first people I call.
It's opening up one of these things takes a lot.
There's a lot of shit.
A lot of red tape.
A lot of red tape.
Yeah, there's a lot of things that have to happen.
It's a perfect storm situation.
Yeah, but it's interesting.
I love being out here, though. I'll tell you that. I'm enjoying it. You like it's a perfect storm situation yeah but it's interesting i love being out here though i'll tell you that you're enjoying it like a lot very much you're doing a lot of hunting
no no i've done any hunting since i've been here there's got to be some good hunting out here
though yeah there's hunting and then there's like air quotes hunting where it's like you're in a
fucking fenced in area yeah that's like uh some of that it's like fishing in a stocked pond. Yeah, a small stocked pond.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's weird.
Like they have feeders.
They do hunting over feeders here.
So they have these feeders that drop food,
and then these animals get accustomed to the feeder going off every day at like 9 a.m.
Right.
So people sit there in a tree stand at 9 a.m. waiting for these animals to come and get their food.
Yeah, it's not good.
Well, it's one thing if you're trying to eradicate, like if you have pigs and you're trying to eradicate an invasive species like wild pigs.
Right.
Then I understand why you'd have a feeder.
But it's harvesting more than it's hunting.
You're not going out in the wild looking for a wild animal right you're you're trying you kind of
tricking them it's not fair what is fair you have a gun it's it all gets weird
right it's like what you know people like the non hunters like yeah if you're
real man you use a fucking knife okay if I was a real man I use my hands why would
I use him even use a knife that seems stupid man, I'd use my hands. Why would I even use a knife? That seems stupid.
Yeah, use your hands.
Well, then I'd starve to death.
Like, what are you saying?
That's one of the things in this book, A Land So Strange.
It details the Native Americans and their persistent hunting.
Persistence hunting, where they would chase these animals down and just run after them until they dropped dead.
What was Vaca hunting with?
Well, they were doing whatever they could to get by.
They weren't just hunting.
They ate dogs.
They ate deer shit.
They literally ate anything they could find.
They were at the verge of starving to death multiple times,
and a lot of them did.
It's a crazy book, man.
It's just crazy to think that.
Because it's all about the weaponry. The Europeans came with, I don't know what they came with,
but they looked at the native people as savages,
but really the natives had their shit together.
Well, they definitely had their shit together in terms of they had.
See, that's one of the things.
I'll give you some spoilers.
When the Spaniards came here, they had horses and rifles, right?
They had muskets and guns.
And when they lost their ships and when they got shipwrecked
and when they got stuck here,
they realized that they were fucked and there was no food,
so they started eating their horses,
and then they started taking their rifles and melting them down
to turn them into axes so
they could cut down trees so they could build rafts so they could get out of there they realized
they were in this terrible situation and they ate all their horses and then they melted down all
their rifles and then they had to deal with angry natives it's it's crazy it's really interesting
that's right i i become just completely engrossed in those kind of stories.
All these Native American, I've read like, now it's probably like eight or nine books on Native American life.
Because the story's being told properly now.
Yes.
It's not being told as these people were savages and we came to tame them.
Right, right.
It was more of a, oh, hold on, there's two sides to this story here.
Yeah.
Well, I think, yeah, I think they told a convenient story for the longest time.
Of course.
That's what we learned growing up.
Yeah, and now they're telling a story that's like way deeper and way crazier.
And just, it makes you think how, if you could go back just a few hundred years and see.
I'd have been dead. If you had a fast forward camera,
but if you got a fast forward camera and like,
it's a,
it's a,
you know,
you have a fast forward video,
like what it was like to go from nothing where Chicago is to Chicago.
Yeah.
What was that movie with Angelina Jolie?
Wasn't that the one?
Oh no,
it was Scarlett Johansson where she traveled all the way back in time.
Oh, Lucy?
Yeah.
Remember at the end?
Oh, yeah.
That was when she took that crazy drug that turned her into a god.
Yes.
Yes.
It was a good movie.
I liked that movie.
But the ending part was pretty wild where they – I liked when they did that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That movie was weird.
You know what I watch on YouTube a lot is they found all those film footage of people driving,
and they colorized some of it, the 1800s and the early 1900s, New York City or whatever.
And you see the horse and carriages in the city.
They colorized it?
Yeah, it's not very well colorized.
Everything ends up being purple.
Everyone's wearing purple for some reason.
Oh, really?
I guess that's the way the colors showed up.
What did they wear back then?
Were they in a purple?
They probably didn't have
a lot of dyes back then.
Have you ever seen this?
Yeah, I see.
This is supposed to be
like the first fight
caught on film.
They could just be
fucking around
because no one's reacting
to them.
Or maybe people just fought.
That guy's throwing sand at him.
Or that.
Back it up.
Let me see it from the beginning.
Let me see his technique.
It's that old school technique.
From 1901. It's 20 old school technique. From 1901.
It's 20 seconds of film.
They didn't know shit about leg kicks back then.
They got jumping up and down for no reason.
I think they're fighting.
I think they're drunk and they're fighting and they just both suck.
They look like they're leaving work or something.
Yeah.
Oh, they're fighting, dude.
Hey, what's that rumor that you were going to fight?
What is that rumor?
Have you not heard that rumor?
What's the rumor? Joe Rogan's going to have an MMA fight. Oh. I swear to God that rumor that you were going to fight? What is that rumor? Have you not heard that rumor? What's the rumor?
Joe Rogan's going to have an MMA fight.
Not at all.
I swear to God that rumor's been floating around.
You're on Twitter too long.
I see people, hey, did you hear Joe's fighting?
No.
Was he really?
I was like, I can't see him doing that.
You don't think I would tell you?
I'm not doing that.
Yeah, it had some legs from it.
Was this recently?
Yeah, in the past month.
Thank God I'm not online.
I don't pay attention.
Somebody said, yeah, Joe Rogan's going to fight.
And I'm like, really?
Incorrect.
Not interested.
No.
Trying to keep what little brain damage I have to a minimum.
I mean, it would be pretty, I'm sure fucking people would pay a fuckload of money to see
you fight somebody.
Yeah, see me get my ass kicked.
That's what they'd want.
No, I don't think that would.
I'd have to fight someone that people hate.
Yeah.
I don't see it as a wash.
I'm not interested.
Would you fight somebody?
I don't know.
You don't know?
I'm not even thinking about it.
I mean, if the money was right, probably.
Would you?
If somebody came along with a big money fight, like you and Aziz Ansari?
Well, give me somebody who would be able to fucking defend themselves.
I want to see a slaughter fest.
All right.
Who do you think you'd match up well with?
I don't know.
It would have to be somebody in the same age bracket, I would imagine.
Right, right.
Who has some sort of training at some point.
I don't want to be – but at the same time, I wouldn't want them to be too tough.
I don't know what my intestinal fortitude is like nowadays.
Well, you'd have to train more than once a week too. i'd go into full training camp full training camp full training camp if i was gonna fight somebody i'd go into a full training
camp how many months three at least three months that's all you'd need to get ready i would say
you know i would say three to five but what would you like if i gave you an ideal time
five months five months yeah really just get my shit together the first month would be you know
getting your getting your mental right getting your mental right that's a whole month at least
yeah you gotta how do you do that you gotta break habits break habits you gotta break bad habits
you gotta break the sleeping in you gotta break the booze would be easy to get rid of i don't
you know i like it but it's not like an important thing to me. I can go without drinking.
That's not a big deal to me.
Cigars, I do love.
You know what?
It's your fault, by the way, that this Buffalo Trace is now in my life.
It's good stuff.
It's fucking fantastic.
Have a little.
There you go.
Put it in my little Joe Rogan cup here.
There you go.
Good.
That's a lot.
Cheers.
Cheers, Pally.
Cheers, my brother.
Don't go fighting anybody.
I'm not fighting anybody.
Are you crazy?
Chad Johnson's supposed to fight, and I can't find out who he's going to fight.
They've only said who he's not going to fight.
Well, maybe they don't have a fight set for him.
Oh, it's on Triller?
Yeah, it's on the Mayweather-Logan-Paul card.
Really?
June 6th.
Really?
Now, is Mayweather fighting both of them, or is he just fighting the one?
He's just fighting the one.
He's fighting Logan.
What do you think is going to happen there?
I mean, listen.
You can't.
I don't care if you fucking like boxing.
And you look good doing it.
You're not going to beat the fun of the best fighters ever.
It's just not the fucking way the world works.
I know, but isn't it funny that he's like 50 pounds lighter?
Yeah, because he doesn't give a shit. It's kind of kind of funny though it's not the first guy 50 pounds heavier than him
he's lit up he's probably lit him up in the gym you know caleb plant caleb plant was the whipping
boy in the mayweather gym before was he he was the guy that got his ass beat by everybody and
then he became the top guy but i always say the more you get your ass whooped and you don't like
it the more you're going to get better at not getting your ass whooped. You know, I'm not that familiar with Caleb Plant.
I know he's really good, but I don't think I've seen any of his fights.
I mean, listen, let's call it what it is.
Let's call it what it is.
I mean, Canelo will beat him, but that doesn't mean Caleb's a pushover by any means.
Pull up some Caleb Plant highlights.
You know who I'm a big fan of?
Teofimo Lopez.
Oh, I love that kid.
That motherfucker can crack.
Yeah.
And both my kids are half Honduran,
so that's kind of...
Oh, yeah?
There you go.
A little soft spot for me there.
He can crack.
He can crack.
I just want him to have a couple more fights
before he steps it up.
Steps it up?
I mean...
He beat Lomachenko.
He did beat Lomachenko,
but, I mean, Lomachenko had a year off.
Lomachenko didn't look good.
That's not to negate anything Teofimo did.
Teofimo's the truth for sure.
Is Caleb Plant undefeated?
Maybe.
I don't know.
There was a guy I was watching last week.
He had 28 first-round knockouts.
You look at the way he comes in now.
I mean, that's because of years of getting into wars in the gym.
So he was a Mayweather guy?
He was a Mayweather guy.
He was in the gym.
He was a young kid.
I think a friend of mine who worked for Mayweather reminded me that I saw Caleb in the gym the one time I went to go watch Mayweather train.
And I think he said Caleb must have been 4 or 5 and 0 at that time.
He looked slick.
But he's one of those guys that really fucking puts his nose to the grind
and fixes his mistakes as well.
It's kind of one of those things, man, where when you're –
That short left hook.
You see, that's a Mayweather thing right there.
When you're facing a guy like Canelo Alvarez
that's so good right now,
he's like, it's hard to get to those RPMs
without having the kind of fights that Canelo's had.
Without having those two triple G fights,
without having that fight with Mayweather,
without having the fight with Danny Jacobs,
without having the James Kirkland fight,
all those fights where he built up
to where he is now,
high profile, where Caleb obviously is very skillful.
He hasn't had those high profile big fights.
It's so hard to just step in.
And the pressure attached with it.
Yeah.
Now, watching him starch Billy Joe Saunders like that.
And Saunders is a good fighter.
He's a very good fighter.
Tough kid.
Undefeated, super tough, super slick.
Yep.
And to see him crack him
like that just the consequences of missing and getting countered by canelo are so high canelo
sets traps the in from from the first round we did it to amir khan i was at that fight
and amir was looking great but i was i was noticing that um that he kept whacking amir to
the body and he was getting a red spot there.
And eventually, you're going to want to defend that area because it's going to hurt.
And the minute you drop that hand, he set you up.
He set you up from the first round.
He's a monster.
The fact that he knocked out Kovalev, like, Jesus Christ, Kovalev's a light heavyweight.
I know Kovalev had seen better days by the time that fight came around,
but the fact that he stopped him like that and just
beat him up. Kovalev was an interesting
one because he was very dominant
and then all of a sudden
just fell apart after Andre Ward.
Booze, buddy.
Booze did him in. Booze?
A lot of things did him in, but apparently he likes to drink.
Well, he's Russian, you know. They do like their vodka.
And also, you know, Andre Ward crushed him, you know, especially that second fight.
And the first fight, arguably, he could have won that fight.
You know, it would be nice if Ward came out of retirement to fight Canelo.
Well, they offered it to him after the Kovalev fight.
And I admire Andre Ward greatly.
after the Kovalev fight.
And I admire Andre Ward greatly.
I think he's one of the best examples of what a guy can do if he just decides,
I'm done.
He wins an Olympic gold medal.
He wins two world titles in two different weight classes,
retires undefeated,
and did most of it with one arm.
Right.
Did most of it without having a right shoulder.
Eventually the bank will catch up with you.
The money will get right, and you'll come out.
You think so?
You think he will?
There's the talk of Lennox fighting Mike.
Yeah, but Lennox is different than Andre, you know?
I mean, Lennox is going to be 55 or 56 years old this year.
Yeah.
Lennox is going to do it apparently.
I talked to him on the phone.
He was at my house last week.
Yeah? We talked about it. But he said if he does it, he's going to go it, apparently. I talked to him on the phone. He was at my house last week. Yeah?
We talked about it.
But he said if he does it, he's going to go into a full fucking training camp.
Well, he needs a lot of time because he's not really in.
Oh, he's been dropping weight.
He's been dropping weight.
He's looking good.
Right, but he hasn't really been working out.
No, but Lennox is also a very mentally strong man.
Oh, yeah.
He's got that thing.
Yeah.
Well, he's fucking Lennox Lewis.
It's true.
At the end of the day, if he's alive, he's fucking Lennox Lewis. It's true.
At the end of the day, if he's alive, he's still Lennox Lewis. He's always throwing punches at me.
Is he?
He's always.
There's also today, there's pharmaceutical interventions.
He's not that guy.
Work around age.
Yeah, he looks great.
When he's at the house, people are like, how old are you?
And he tells them his age.
They're like, what?
Black don't crack. Black don't crack.
Black don't crack.
Brown don't frown.
Yeah.
Well, he's just, he also retired with his wits about him, too.
Plays a lot of chess.
Always played chess.
Yeah.
And backgammon.
He's good, right?
He's good at chess, right?
Very good at chess.
He's like ranked, right?
He's very, very good.
And a focus that I'll never have. For chess? For anything, he does. He's very competitive at chess. He's like ranked, right? He's very, very good. And a focus that I'll never have.
For chess?
For anything, he does.
He's very competitive in that regard.
Do you have any game that you play?
I really wish I did.
Why don't you pick one up?
You play jujitsu.
It's kind of a game.
It is.
Jujitsu is a fucking incredible game.
I always tell people it's great for every part of your body.
Do you get into open classes?
Yeah, absolutely. How often do you roll in with like strangers i'll roll with some guys i
know first then after i warm up then i'll then i'll roll with some strangers you know i'm always
a little leery of strangers because i'm like i don't want this guy to fucking hey a fucked up
russell peters yeah so i start light with people because i'm like i want to see where you're at i
want to see what kind of game you want to roll with right and then I mean they step but I put the gas on when I when I have to put the gas
on yeah some people love to fucking if they know who you are they love to attack yeah but you got
to be prepared for that I mean if you're going to be in there yeah there's no halfway about it
well that's one good thing about the geese you can kind of slow down a lot of shit like that
yeah it's like no gee guys it's like holding on to a slippery dolphin.
Like, hey, where are you going?
Yeah, the first six minutes you're okay.
And then once you start sweating,
it's like trying to juggle a bar of soap.
How much no-gi do you do?
Not very much.
That's why you should go to Eddie's.
Go and learn some of that stuff.
It'll apply.
John Jack and I will do no-gi every now and then.
On like hot days I'll do it
because I'm like,
I don't want to wear the fucking gi.
It's too hot. Right. So I go, no problem. And then then. On like hot days, I'll do it because I'm like, I don't want to wear the fucking gi. It's too hot.
Right.
So I go, no problem.
And then he beats my ass with no gi.
Is his gym open for the general public?
Do you have to wear masks?
What do you have to wear?
Oh, yeah.
The city's been coming down on him.
Yeah.
Real, real bad.
But I think hopefully, you know, once everything opens up.
Yeah.
Maybe he'll have to just COVID test people.
Yeah, he does.
He's doing the mass and COVID.
A lot of times, it's just a lot of calisthenics and stuff they do in the gym.
If they can drop the price of tests down very low, you could really eliminate a lot of the problems.
It's unnecessarily expensive.
I don't know about that.
I don't know what the process of developing a rapid antigen test is.
Maybe it's not, but they are kind of expensive.
Do you pay the lady that does this one here?
No, she works for free.
What do you think?
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, you know, a lot of times people will do it just to, you know, say I –
Oh, of course, yeah.
To build a resume.
No, I pay them.
I've been testing people since –
Since day one.
April of last year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When we locked down, we started testing the moment they got tests.
The moment we could get tests.
You're always at the forefront of things, though.
Well, I realized that you have a responsibility.
Yeah.
You got a responsibility to do that.
And then I also wanted to figure out what do I have to do that and then you know i also wanted to
figure out what do i have to do to stay healthy i don't want to get sick and then as time went on
you know kind of realize what you have to do in terms of health wise and you know and i i go pretty
above and beyond in that department you got to protect it yeah you got to protect what you've
got i mean this is not a you know it's not a mom and pop business you're running here well it's not
just that i wanted to keep doing it, man.
I know a lot of people that had real mental health problems because they didn't do shit this year.
My comic friends that don't have podcasts or, you know, there was a lot of people that I talked to like deep into July and August that hadn't seen a single fucking person.
The entire lockdown.
They had done nothing but go to the grocery store and then go home.
They hadn't done anything.
And mentally, they suffered.
That's a thing, man.
Especially comics.
We think too much.
Yeah, well, that's why we do what we do.
I think if you're not a thinker, it's probably a lot easier to get through life.
You just kind of go with the flow and accept what people tell you.
I don't even know about that, man.
Critical thinkers really, really suffered last year.
I think so.
But I think everybody suffered.
I think it's fucking hard for people
when the world gets weird, you know?
And you get nervous.
You get anxiety.
Yep.
You know?
I never really let it weigh my brain down
because I had so many other problems going on.
I was like, you know what?
That's the last thing I need to fucking add into this mix.
Well, that's good.
You know?
And you kept up with the vitamins and everything.
Yeah, the vitamins I've been on for many years now.
And I really think that saved my ass a lot.
High doses of vitamin D I was on for years.
And I didn't realize the, you know, I didn't know it was going to benefit me in the long run.
But I'm glad it did.
Well, it's a big one for brown folks, too.
You know?
Yeah.
You know, you're not the darkest skinned guy.
But if you think about, like, people that are, like, dark black, it's a real issue, man.
Because it's hard to get that vitamin D just from the sun.
You know, the whole reason why they have that dark pigment is the body is protected from the sun, the sun's rays.
But that makes it more difficult to get melanin.
Whereas a guy like Canelo, which is hilarious that he's Mexican. He's the whitest fucking guy that's ever lived.
He's very Richie Cunningham.
It is hilarious, isn't it?
I like that he's learned English, though.
Oh, he's getting better.
Yeah.
Did you see the post fight with Boo Boo Andrade calling him out?
What is that about?
You never fought anybody when he said you didn't fight anybody?
Yeah.
Well, Canelo said to him he didn't fight anybody.
But he said to Canelo, who the fuck have you fought?
He's like, who have I fought?
Yeah.
You fought nobody. Get out. Yeah, who the fuck have you fought? He's like, who have I fought? You fought nobody.
Get out.
Get the fuck out.
I mean, who can he fight, though, to make a name?
Everybody wants that big name.
They want to fight Canelo.
But who can Andrade fight to get?
Well, everybody wants to get paid now.
It's all about.
I know.
Everyone's really driven by the dollar nowadays.
But it's got to be.
It's got to make sense, right?
No one's calling for that fight other than him. Right. I mean, who are you calling for? I mean, he's the top of the dollar nowadays. But it's got to be, it's got to make sense, right? No one's calling for that fight other than him.
Right.
I mean, who are you calling for?
I mean, he's the top of the food chain.
That's what you want, right?
You've got Caleb Plant.
You've got Triple G.
Those are the only people that anybody's calling for him to fight.
And then he's going to have to move up if he wants to continue.
Or Andre Ward comes back.
That would be great.
I'd like to see that.
I don't think he's going to.
I love the fact that he said, I'm a better servant of boxing if I just,
I can serve boxing better as a commentator and just being a representative of the sport.
And also, super articulate, has zero problems with his speech, no sign of brain damage at all.
Everything's smooth, handsome, in shape, still fit, still works out.
He's gained a little though.
I noticed a little chubbiness on him. Get of here. Are you seeing his not like fucking fat?
But I mean like you know he's not good on it. Not a walking weight and not a fight weight
You know how dare you shut your mouth go to go to Andre Ward's Instagram watch others some videos of him shadowboxing, dude
He looks as crisp as ever. He looks as fuck did you hear that tony is
fighting look at this where are you seeing fat you shut your mouth your dirty filthy mouth russell
beaters come on how the fuck could you say he looks when is this from yesterday yeah right
dude it's from a week a week ago i'm not bullshitting it's at 10 weeks but it's not that
long it's a deep fake come on bro that's him looking smooth as fuck no no two of these just that doesn't go away i'm just saying is what do
you mean that doesn't go away but he's thin russell he looks good i mean you know he's another one
look at this one he's not in my shape shut your hole you're dirty stinking hole look at that come
on russell he misses it look you see when a fighter does all that he's like you could tell
he misses it um I'm sure he misses
it, but he doesn't miss it
to the point where he wants to come back.
He said, them hands still work.
Fighters that put videos on like
this are trying to bait you and to
offer him a lot of money to do something.
Well, that is
the most compelling fight for
Canelo. By far.
By far. It would sell a fuck fight. By far. By far.
It would sell a fuckload of money.
But if you were Andre Ward,
don't you think it would be wise
to not go straight into Canelo Alvarez?
Yeah, he'd need one tune-up and he'd be back.
Who do you think he would fight?
Maybe Buandrade.
Oh.
That'd be good.
If he lights him up?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lights up a guy who's very active.
I'm saying there's a lot of interesting things out there.
Yeah, I'm not even familiar with Andrade.
James Toney is apparently fighting Shannon Briggs.
Is that true, though?
That's what I heard.
I'm going to call Shannon after I find out.
This is what I've gotten from Shannon Briggs' Instagram because he's talking shit about James Toney virtually every day.
Listen, you know, but that's, again, that's Shannon.
Yeah.
You know.
He's the best.
Shannon's got a good weed company going.
Let's go champ.
Let's go champ.
Have you been on the road at all?
I've been on the road a lot.
When did you start?
I started taking dates late June last year.
Yeah?
Yeah.
And then, you know, it picked up, then it died down, picked up, died down, according
to the waves.
But since January, I've been going pretty good.
Yeah?
Yeah, Florida, I did a lot of Florida work.
Really?
Atlanta.
Florida doesn't give a fuck.
It's like they were socially, their social distancing is six inches apart.
Yeah, they don't give a fuck.
But here's the thing, it's not affecting people.
That's what's crazy in terms of the numbers.
It's, you know. That's what's crazy in terms of the numbers. I love it.
I love the idea of giving people the opportunity to do whatever they want to do.
We're not talking about the Black Plague, folks.
Let people do what they want to do.
Florida lets people do what they want to do.
Yeah, let you make your own decision, and you can't blame anybody.
The problem is we've taken accountability away from everybody
because everybody has the ability or the right to sue anybody they want well also we've given these fucking crazy people this free license to scream at someone to put a
mask on there's this thing that people do even when you're outside like california they love it
they love doing that in california i feel guilty when i'm eating and i have my mask off i'm like i
want to hold the food up high so nobody i don don't, I don't want any altercations.
I don't have to tell you to go fuck yourself.
You know what I mean?
Like, is there any place that tells you to put a mask on in between bites of food?
I've heard that on a, on some flights I've heard, um, if you're eating, uh, lower your
mask, eat.
And I'm like, I'm not going to fucking get crumbs and food all up in my fucking mask.
Well, the thing is about flights, Flights are relatively safe, apparently,
because they have the HEPA filters.
Right.
The HEPA filters that they have on flights are apparently-
And nobody's caught it from a flight.
Is that true?
I don't know that to be true, but I-
I don't know if that's true.
And if they have, it's, you know-
I think there was a lady that caught it.
She thinks she caught it from a bathroom.
But how the fuck do you know where you caught it from?
Because you don't feel sick for a couple days,
and then you're like, oh, the flight. I went in the bathroom. That know where you caught it from? Because you don't feel sick for a couple days, and then you're like, oh, the flight.
I went in the bathroom.
That's where I got it.
Yeah, I mean, it's based on the information they think they have.
Yeah.
It's not based on anything.
It's based on here's what seems like a good answer.
What have the crowds been like on the road?
Amazing.
Happy, right?
Happy.
They're all happy to be out, you know,
and getting good responses in places I've gotten no response before. do you think you were getting ready to do a special no I I
will I will I want to go on tour first and get that act right get juicy get
nice and juicy yeah this next one's gonna be my tenth special tenth special
goddamn Russell not tense you know my man so out there slinging dick for over
a decade
so uh that's awesome but i want to make sure this is a good special too like you know it's
got to matter you know i don't want to put the pressure on myself but same time you know what
i don't want to give them any fluff right especially post-covid and you know you got
guys like you and dave and donnell and everybody coming out with really solid fucking stuff now
and it's a really it really it's good for the game because it makes everybody think harder Dave and Donnell and everybody coming out with really solid fucking stuff now.
And it's good for the game because it makes everybody think harder.
Well, there's a high level of comedy out right now for sure.
And you're seeing it.
I'm really impressed with the local Austin scene.
Really impressed.
Yeah.
I've been seeing a lot of these kids that go up and kill Tony.
Yeah, I didn't realize how big the scene was out here.
It's big.
And it's gotten a lot bigger since we moved here.
Yeah.
And they've opened up quite a few clubs.
You know, there's Creek in the Cave, which I'm there Wednesday and Thursday of this week with Tony and Whitney and Joe List.
Is Whitney out here now?
No.
She's thinking about moving out here, but she's just coming out here to visit.
They have Sunset Strip Comedy Club.
They have the Romo Room.
They have Vulcan Gas Company.
And then they're going to open up the new version of Cap City,
which is going to be in the domain.
And then I'm going to open up my place.
Do you have a name for yours yet?
No, I can't tell you.
I'll tell you off air.
Okay.
Yeah, I got a name.
But I got plans, Russell.
I know, I like that.
It's complicated to get these plans off.
It's interesting.
Like, it's a lesson.
You know, I've never done this before, so it's a lesson.
Yeah, it's one of those things.
You know, you've worked in the clubs for so long, so you know what's wrong with them and what not to do.
Well, I also know what's right with them by working at the store.
Right.
And I want to emulate that environment, make it as comfortable as possible for the comics.
And that's my main goal, make it a fun place where comics can call home. So you got a home base. You got a place
where you can go, you know, you're going to be safe. You can go fuck around. Yep. We're going
to use those, um, bags, bags for sure. And going to have good food, nice staff. I want everybody
to be treated well and paid well. I want everybody to feel good about working there. Yeah. And my
goal is not to make any money. My goal is just to not lose any money. That's my goal. That's a good goal.
That's all I want to do. I just want to make it nice. Oh, it's different when you come from this
side of it. Yeah. You know, you're not coming into it as a businessman. You're coming into it as a
guy who cares about the art. And a guy who's in a position where I can do something fun. I can
actually make something happen. I really can do it. So I feel like I have to.
I feel like I'm supposed to.
It's like I could just think about myself,
but I really feel like I can do a service for the comedy community and help.
I really do.
Yeah.
So that's what I want to do. You're, what, 33 years in the game too as well?
Yep.
Yep.
So you've got a year on me.
Woo!
Crazy times.
Yeah.
It'll be 33 years in August.
Yeah.
I'm 32 in November
And then nuts it is imagine when you started out thinking that you'd be doing it 32 years later
I I always thought I would I just didn't know that where I would be I just figured I would be a road comic
I felt like I would be a physical wreck
30 years later. I'd be like, oh my god, like what is it like to be a 53 year old just broken?
I mean I go back home. I God, like, what is it like to be a 53-year-old just broken?
I mean, I go back home.
I go back to Canada, and I'm like, wow, I see the guys that I came up with, and they're still doing the same fucking act.
And I'm like.
That's the problem with getting stuck in an island, you know?
You get stuck in a little comedy island. And it's not like their act is bad.
It's a fantastic act, and it's fully polished.
But you got to reach a little, you know what I mean?
You got to get out there.
The game changed it's not like you come up with your one act like it was
in the 70s and 80s and then that's what you're known for you gotta you gotta continuously
reinvent yourself i've seen guys from the 80s that are still doing the same act i know it's
boston boston guys yeah i've seen guys and i'm like oh my god this is insanity it's still funny
but you know it's like uh it's stale to them, though.
Once it's stale to them, it's stale to everybody else, too.
It's got to be fresh to you.
It's one of the best things about new material is that it's fresh to you.
Well, I think that determines who you are as a comic.
If you're the comic that cares about this a lot, you're going to continuously grow.
Yeah, and I think that applies to almost everything you're trying to do in life.
You want to be challenged. You want things to be exciting. You know, you want things that are like,
you have to really think and work hard at it. That way when it comes out and it's done,
you feel good. Well, that separates career from job. Yes. And passion from occupation.
Because I think the guys that I saw growing up that are still doing the same act, look at it as
a job. This is how I'm still know I'm going to make money. There's guys growing up that are still doing the same act, look at it as a job. This is how I'm still going to make money.
There's guys like that that are like tradesmen.
Yeah.
You know, they could have been a plumber and so they became a comic.
Yeah.
They just figured out this and then they're like, ah, fuck, that's fine.
Price check, tampons, aisle two price check.
That's the worst when you hear about guys that you knew that had a lot of talent and they're like, what are you doing now?
I'm like, I'm driving fucking Uber.
And you're like, oh, boy.
Yeah.
It's hard out there, bro.
It's hard, but...
We're the lucky ones, you know?
We're the lucky ones.
Better than being Cabeza de Vaca eating dogs.
Well, you know...
And deer shit making your way across the country on foot.
The old deer shit omelet.
Imagine if you would.
How'd they get chickens?
How did they get chickens? How'd they get chickens how did they get chickens where these chickens come from domestic chickens yeah that's a good question they probably came over on boats
right what's the okay that's let's let's ask this question where did domestic chickens come from
their origin right because i've seen wild chickens in Mexico.
You ever seen those?
Mm-mm.
Yeah, they go-
For the cockfights or-
No, just like wild chickens.
It's like a type of chicken.
Like if you go to Puerto Vallarta, I was staying at a resort and these birds are running around.
I'm like, what is that?
It's a type of wild chicken.
I was like, what?
Are they edible?
I forget what they call it.
I mean, obviously they're edible.
Most birds are edible.
Yeah. Most animals are edible. Yeah.
Most animals are edible.
That's the thing.
Most plants are not edible.
Chickens were likely first domesticated about 5,400 years ago in Southeast Asia,
although archaeological evidence of wild chickens goes back even further
to a 12,000-year-old site in northern China.
thousand year old site in northern China. Once domesticated though, chickens were brought westward to Europe and east southeast into Oceana. What's Oceana?
Oceana. That probably goes back to Pangaea maybe. I don't know.
I was reading about my people. They found-
Which ones?
Neanderthals. They found evidence that a bunch of Neanderthals have been killed by hyenas in a cave in Italy.
Wow.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, for sure.
That's where my DNA comes from.
You're a hyena caveman.
Well, eaten by hyenas, man.
That's a rough way to go, man.
Yeah.
Hyenas would eat you in a horrible way.
They're not the most friendly animals.
Yeah, they'd probably break your ankle so you can't run.
They're from the dog family, wouldn't they be?
Are they canines?
I imagine.
By eating them, hyenas gathered nine Neanderthal skeletons in one cave.
The Neanderthals appeared to have met a very bad end.
So they just dragged them into the cave.
So they just dragged them into the cave.
Ugh.
Archaeologists in Italy recently unearthed the remains of at least 90 Neanderthals in Guattari Cave near the, how do you say that?
Terranian?
Terranian Sea.
Terranian Sea.
About 100 kilograms southeast of Rome.
While excavating a previously unexplored section of the cave,
archaeologists from the archaeological super in tendency of
latina and the university of tor vergata recently on earth broken skulls jaw bones teeth and pieces
of several other burns bones which they say represent at least nine neanderthals that
brings the caves total to at least 18 oh 10, 10. Anthropologist Alberto Carlo Blanc
found a Neanderthal skull in another chamber in 1939.
Oh, wow.
So they've been finding them there forever.
Italy was a very different place 60,000 years ago.
Hyenas, along with other Pleistocene carnivores,
stalked rhinoceroses, wild horses,
and extinct wild bovine called aurochs,
and people.
And people?
What?
Hyenas were eating people, those fucks.
Wow.
Neanderthals were prey to these animals.
Hyenas hunted them, especially the most vulnerable,
like sick or elderly individuals.
Wow.
That's rough.
Hyenas are like the diesel coyotes. Wow. That's rough.
Hyenas are like the diesel coyotes.
They're just fucking nasty animals, man.
They're just nasty.
They're evil.
And they're very mean looking.
But just the yelling and the laughing,
like where'd that come from?
Imagine that's the shit you hear when you have a broken ankle.
You're like, fuck.
Yeah.
You know, you're trying to get away
and you're,
and they're all circling you. They get excited. Snapping at you. That's their happy noise, you're trying to get away, and you're... They're all circling you, snapping at you.
That's their happy noise, you know?
Yeah, it's funny how, like, animals that are creepy look creepy.
Like vultures.
Vultures are creepy, fucking...
They got bad posture.
But they just look like they are.
You know, like dead animal-eating cunts.
Fucking red, disgusting necks.
Don't like the bottom feeders.
Have you ever seen a Tibetan sky funeral?
You ever seen that?
What's that?
Bro, it's rough.
It's a ritual that they do in Tibet where they feed their dead to vultures.
where they feed their dead to vultures.
And the idea is that there's no reason to waste someone's body by putting it in the ground.
You're better serving earth and nature and life
by feeding it to the vultures.
So they would take these people's bodies
and they cut them open and even break open the bones
and slice all the meat and then leave them out there
for the vultures.
And the vultures, there's really graphic images
of these Tibetan sky funnels.
And still happens?
Yeah, yeah, they're recent photographs.
That's not the way I want to go.
Not the way you want to go
or not what you want them to do with your body?
Yeah, I don't know if I want that done to me after I'm dead.
I don't know, man.
I mean, what's the point of rotting and being eaten by bacteria?
But here's why we're assholes.
We don't even let bacteria eat people.
We fucking embalm them with this disgusting, toxic shit.
So here it is, sky burial.
Tradition becomes controversial tourist attraction.
So people are filming it, which is very odd.
It was the monk of the car that we saw.
So these people are just sitting around.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Do they have any actual photographs?
Not really.
You can't really tell what they're eating, to be honest with you.
So he's flying.
Yeah.
I mean, at least you're getting swarmed and not picked at by one.
You know what I mean?
Well, they're accustomed to it.
That's what's going on.
It's like these birds have kind of been trained to do it
this is just a video they're probably not going to show you too much in this
video but there's plenty of photographs where you can watch all of it and watch
how they do it and I don't think they'd allow you to show it on on YouTube
YouTube would want you to be vague about it. They're bringing back Faces of Death.
Really? Which I thought was
real. Turns out it was not
real though. The original Faces of Death
was all fake.
Some of it was real.
Very disturbing. There's another thing called Traces of Death
that kind of got mixed in. I was sort of
looking into this because I thought I'd seen
real Faces of Death in my past.
I had the VHS's of it back in the day.
Some of it I think
for sure was fake
but there was a video
that I saw
where they tied
this guy's legs
to one bumper
and they tied his arms
to another bumper
and that one was real as fuck
because that guy
was screaming
and they pulled him apart.
But yeah,
they're rebooting it
for today
for some reason.
I don't know.
They're going to make,
I don't know.
The remake?
Like more fake footage
or if they're going to, Hollywood's doing it the remake like more fake footage or if they're going to
I don't
Hollywood's doing it
so like it was like
Hollywood's doing it
like in Variety.com
said like reboot of
you know
Faces of Death
for 2022
Hollywood's doing it
good old Hollywood
good old Hollywood
they love a good reboot
what does that mean though
when they say like
Hollywood's doing it
like an official studio
why would they do that
I guess maybe
they realize civilization
has crashed so hard.
Fuck it.
Let's just go all out.
They figure we're numb.
Yeah.
Then we're numb to it already.
When I was joking around about Fear Factor back in the day,
I used to say that we're like three seasons away from The Running Man.
We kind of are, right?
Faces of Death reboot.
Didn't they bring back Fear Factor for a minute?
Ludacris.
That's right.
Ludacris hosted it.
Yeah.
It's, you know, it wasn't real Fear Factor, though.
They kind of like, you know, like, you're going to lose your cell phone.
Oh, my God.
You know what I mean?
Like, what's the fear?
It was low budget.
Like, to do Fear Factor correctly, you got to, the reality is, like, the last season,
they went way too far.
They risked people's lives, I think.
The season you were on.
Yeah, they got lucky.
I really believe that.
I mean, not the season, but the very last season when we came back for one short amount of episodes.
We did like six episodes.
That one was risky.
Like they were doing some wild shit.
Were you into that?
No, I didn't enjoy it.
The last season I was like, we're going so far with these.
I was nervous that someone was going to get legitimately hurt.
Who's coming up with the ideas?
Producers.
Not writers?
Well, I mean, you know, creative folks.
Yeah.
But kind of warped creative folk you have to be.
Heavily warped.
Yeah.
You know, a lot of stunt guys.
And stunt guys are, you know, they're some risk-taking motherfuckers.
Oh, they're nutty.
They have a different perception of, like, risk and reward. A lot of stunt guys in jiu-, you know, there are some risk-taking motherfuckers. They're nutty. They have a different perception of like risk and reward.
A lot of stunt guys in jujitsu.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
A fuckload of them.
A lot.
Those are the guys I don't like rolling with because I'm like, they know, they know things
we don't know.
Well, they're also like accustomed to getting injured.
They're, they have a very high tolerance for pain.
You know, my friend Tate did a lot of stunt.
You remember Tate Fletcher?
Yeah.
He did a lot of stunt work and, uh, he's did a lot of stunt you remember tate fletcher yeah he did a lot of
stunt work and uh he's done a lot of acting too you know he was uh i watched john wick a lot that's
one of the things i like to watch when i work out which one one number one's the good one the
original one yeah two is pretty good three put me to sleep three was not as good as two or one
but it's still good i still enjoyed it i like hallie berry so i was a fan yeah i watched three
in a movie theater
in South Africa
when I was on tour
and I fell asleep
to the sound of the guns.
Maybe you're just really tired.
I may have been
but I woke up
when the guns stopped
for a second
and then I was like
oh and then pop, pop, pop
and I went right back to sleep.
Three didn't have
any muscle cars either.
That was disappointing
but Tate gets shot
in John Wick in the scene when they
went to the red circle bar yeah i remember i remember seeing him in it yeah yeah he gets
shot wasn't an mma fighter at one point oh yeah yeah fought in the ultimate fighter that's right
season i don't remember what season season and michael bisping won yes yes yes um but he was
doing some stunt work and he suffered a really bad head injury.
Really?
Yeah, really bad.
And it fucked him up for over a year.
How did he get it?
Like, real bad.
I do not know.
It was a stunt, and during the stunt, he hit his head really badly.
Oh, I think I heard the story.
I think it was they had already done it once, and he kind of got away with it.
And they were like, we want to do another one. of got away with it and they were like we want to
do another one and even he was like i don't really want to do another one and i think they made him
do a second take and that's how he hurt himself if i am quoting this correctly i do not know but i
know you know people die doing movies man yeah you know it happens remember they when they did the uh
well they did the twilight movie? Remember the helicopter accident?
Oh, yeah.
That was horrific.
That was really bad.
That was horrific.
Yeah, that video was horrific.
Yeah, and then Bruce Lee's son.
Mm-hmm.
God.
Yep.
How the fuck did that happen?
Well, they had a blank,
and the blank had some sort of particle
that was in the cartridge.
So even though it was blank,
there was a piece of something
that shot out of the gun and hit him.
Yeah, so I think they changed
where you're allowed to shoot somebody in movies with blanks.
Now, when you aim at someone with a blank,
you have to aim slightly off to the side.
You don't actually aim at them anymore.
Right.
Yeah, especially with point-of-view shots.
Yeah. Just a blank alone can kill you there was a guy that uh I
was friends with back in the day was an actor and one of his buddies was on the
set and he had a blank gun and he thought it'd be fun to take the gun and
put it to his head and pull the trigger and he killed him just the force of air
coming out of the gun killed him yeah that, that'll do it to you. Yeah. There's a lot of pressure coming at you.
Airbags will kill you.
Do they?
Yeah.
I remember getting in a car accident once and the airbag deployed on the steering wheel.
And I don't know how I avoided getting hurt, but it hit my finger and my finger went black.
It was like, it fucking hit hard.
It was numb.
That's why they say little kids shouldn't sit up front.
Right.
Yeah, because you get walloped by that fucking airbag.
Yeah.
I do think if you face the kid backwards in the front seat, it would probably be good, too.
Push the front seat back.
Put the car seat in backwards.
They should be okay.
I don't know.
I don't think you're even supposed to do that.
No, you're not allowed to.
Yeah.
I mean, we grew up in the-
No seatbelt era.
No seatbelt era. Drum breaks. Oh allowed to. Yeah. I mean, you know, we grew up in the- No seatbelt era. No seatbelt era.
And I remember-
Drum breaks.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
My dad had a 77 Hornet, AMC Hornet, orange one.
And driving home from my aunt's house, I'd be like tired.
And I'd be like, Dad, can I sit in the-
Because it was a station wagon.
I'm going to lay down in the back back.
We used to call it the back back.
There was the back and then there was the back back.
And he didn't give a fuck.
If you're taking turns, you're rolling around.
Yeah, you could just do things with kids back then you could tie him to the roof
Yeah, if you wanted to yeah, no shit sitting in the back of the and the back of a pickup truck was no big deal
There was no rules
It was no rules
And yeah, you didn't have to have a seatbelt on back then and then they eventually came up with baby seats and a bunch
of other what did they do before they probably put a fucking they probably put like a stroller just
What did they do before?
They probably put a fucking,
they probably put like a stroller,
just shoved that stroller in the back seat.
The kid just was stuck in there.
No, you would sit on your mom's lap and she would hold you.
I remember sitting on my mom's lap and driving.
But the people that made it through those eras,
they were hardier folk.
Apparently we're a hardy bunch, huh?
Yeah.
And the vaccinations left scars.
Remember you get that polio vaccine oh yeah
that's right and then there was the immigrant scar too that's how people knew they were immigrant
they go yeah i got my i got my scar what was that from uh from whatever vaccination they got when
they came to the new land was it polio wasn't it it made it it may have been a polio shot uh whatever
it was that you would see people our age that would have like this little little circle it
looked like a burn mark almost on their arm remember how i mean not that we remember but it was so easy when my grandparents
came over here you just have to make your grandparents come from italy most of them from
italy and my grandfather on my father's side from ireland but they just had to get over here yeah
that was it that was the trick yeah get over here and you're in yeah i was watching that documentary
on one of my flights recently about the uh thelusion Act. Have you seen that documentary? What's that?
There was this whole act in the... They were showing about the first Chinese guy that came
to America. And I think it was in the 1700s he came over. And then he proved to be a good worker.
And eventually, by the 1800s, there was like 60,000 Chinese people.
And then for some reason, America had a problem with them.
And they had this Exclusion Act, too.
They had even allowed black people to be free and black people to vote.
But the Chinese were considered less than human.
What?
What year was this?
This was the 1800s.
So this was –
1882, yeah.
Is this when they were working on the railroads a lot?
Yeah, then they let them come in and work on the railroad, but they wouldn't allow them to become citizens.
Bro, you ever see photos of Chinese people working on the railroads?
They're some of the bleakest photos.
And they all had their hair back.
Like their foreheads were huge for some of the way they would pull their hair back.
They probably didn't want their hair to get stuck on the fucking track.
That sounds about right, yeah.
Yeah, imagine a train comes by and catches you by the hair.
Oh, yeah.
They used them pretty badly.
It's a horrific story.
Yeah.
But the photos.
I was watching that Hulu docuseries Sasquatch, and it was talking a lot about, you know, like the people that they used to make the railroads and to mine and the people that used to chop, to cut down the trees up in the Pacific Northwest and up in Northern California.
There's these photos that they showed of these Chinese folks that were working on those railroads.
And it's so depressing, man.
Yeah, they were treated like shit.
And there's just no hope.
You're not getting out of that.
There's no upward mobility.
There's no future.
Yeah, there's a.
No promise.
Yeah.
And then they weren't allowing them to become US citizens
even if they were born here.
You know what's crazy?
Even today, like in Harvard,
it's more difficult for Asian people
to get in than anybody else
really yeah there's a lawsuit about it
right now yeah
apparently they have
so many Asian folks
that were getting into Harvard
that they decided to
specifically tailor their tests
to make it more difficult
or their requirements or what they
what they
what see I don't want to fuck this up because Andrew Yang's people to make it more difficult or their requirements or what they, uh, what they're, what, see,
I don't want to fuck this up because, uh, Andrew Yang's people were the ones who were
talking to me about it.
One of the guys who came last time when Andrew Yang was here.
Nice guy that Andrew Yang.
He's a great guy.
Yeah.
He's a great guy.
I hope he runs again.
Well, he's going to run for mayor.
Of, um.
Of New York City.
He's running right now and it's him and this other
gentleman who was uh i forget what he did but this other guy carries a fucking gun and he's
talking about like ramping up police presence and uh he's a black guy and a lot of people are behind
him and they think like this is what we need to turn the city around like they need to respect
law and order right they need to do something about the fucking crime
There's a shooting spree in Times Square the other day where a four-year-old guy shot woman and her daughter. It's crazy
So here it is. Yeah, America's Court rules Harvard doesn't discriminate against Asian American applicants. Okay, so this is
Federal appeals court in Boston is ruled Harvard doesn't intentionally discriminate against Asian American applicants.
What was the argument? Because there was a lot
of Asian people that were insisting
that that was the case.
The statistical evidence did not show
that Harvard intentionally discriminated against
Asian Americans.
Students for Fair Admissions, an advocacy
group,
first filed its lawsuit in 2014
saying it's Harvard, that Harvard's race-based
considerations for applicants discriminated against Asian American students in process.
Today's decision, once again, finds that Harvard's admission policies were consistent with Supreme
Court precedent and lawfully and appropriately pursue Harvard's efforts to create a diverse
campus that promotes learning and encourages mutual respect and understanding in our community.
So what is the argument, though?
Proponents for ending race-based considerations at U.S. universities were unfazed by Thursday's decision to plan to bring the case to the Supreme Court.
So what does it say?
What is the question?
Okay, the question of how much race should be a factor in college applications is a hotly contested one.
President Trump's administration has challenged college on using race in admission policies,
claiming such practices violate federal law.
Last month, the Department of Justice filed a lawsuit against Yale University,
saying its policies violate the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Yale has said the lawsuit is baseless.
What is school's admissions rules, though?
That's what I'm confused with.
Well, so does that mean external Chinese people or Chinese Americans?
I just think just Asian, period.
Well, when they do race, they don't say, we only want African Americans.
I mean, I'm Asian.
Right.
You know what I mean? Right. So, I mean, it's vague. Right. Americans. I mean, I'm Asian. Right. You know what I mean?
Right.
So, I mean, it's vague.
Right.
But, I mean, I can understand.
But you're a candidate.
You're Canadian.
It cancels everything out.
It's true.
It's true.
What is the race-based admission policy, though, that makes them say that they discriminated?
Does it say?
See if you can find.
Oh, look what they've tried to pop up at your motherfuckers see if you can find
what the argument is that harvard does discriminate against asians but these guys that were with
andrew yang uh they believed pretty strongly that that's what harvard was doing i mean you know
there's a lot of those admissions tests that are race racially biased according to how you grew up and what you know.
So I think what they tried to do is make it the person who wrote the test or whatever
wrote it from their perspective.
We need to fix society so that you never have to think about that shit at all.
Oh, here it goes.
In the lawsuit, plaintiffs claim that Harvard imposes a soft racial quota,
which keeps the number of Asian Americans artificially low.
The low percentage of Asians admitted to Harvard,
plaintiffs maintain, was suspiciously similar year after year,
despite dramatic increases in the number of Asian American applicants
and the size of the Asian American population.
During the lawsuit, the plaintiffs
gained access to Harvard's individualized admission files from 2014 to 19 and aggregate
data from 2000 to 2019. The plaintiffs also interviewed and deposed numerous Harvard officials.
From those sources, the plaintiffs revealed that Harvard admissions officers consistently rated Asian American applicants as a group lower than others on traits like positive personality, likability, courage, kindness, and being widely respected.
What the fuck?
Just think about what that says. They rate you on positive personality, likability, courage, kindness,
and being widely respected. Those are so vague. Well, I mean, you know, different nationalities
have different personalities, you know, different races have different ways of dealing with things.
What may be considered offensive to one is not to the other, you know, or likable to me is not likable to you.
For sure.
But look what it says here.
Asian Americans scored higher than applicants of any other racial or ethnic
group on other admissions measures like test scores, grades,
and extracurricular activities.
But the students' personal rating significantly dragged down their
admissions chances. Wow, that's weird, man. activities, but the student's personal rating significantly dragged down their admissions
chances. Wow. That's weird, man. That's, I mean, I guess you'd have to talk to someone from Harvard
and get them drunk and say, what's really going on? Why do you have this likability, courage,
kindness, and being wildly respective? And what is a positive personality? You have to be positive.
What if you're like, God damn it, I suck, but you work really hard?
Like, that's a negative personality.
But, you know, maybe you have a negative opinion of yourself, but you work really hard.
Maybe that's why you work hard, because you don't think of yourself.
It's weird, man.
Harvard's admissions staff testified they did not believe that different racial groups have better personal qualities than others, but nevertheless, Asian applicants as a racial group
receive consistently weaker personal scores.
Over the period, surveyed and Harvard admissions officers
rated Asian Americans with the worst personal qualities of any racial group.
Wow.
African Americans, on the other hand, consistently scored the lowest on academic rating, but the highest on the personal rating.
But you know what?
Personal rating, that makes me think about that whole Chinese social score system.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't like that.
That's a very weird thing.
Because remember what we were talking about earlier about being woke, right?
Right, right.
Now, things that you and I think are completely acceptable, like you seeing a black lady with a Chinese guy in the audience and immediately going, wow, look at you breaking boundaries.
Like, that's the kind of shit that you would do.
That's not racist.
It's racial.
You're making humor that brings everybody together and gets
everybody to laugh at the differences that we have but if someone didn't know you they would
look at you and say oh he's racist yes and what he's doing is racist comedy right and this is
what people like to do today right so you would get a difference between racial and racist anymore
they don't know what the difference is they don't know what talking shit is which is why shane
gillis got kicked off saturday night live right is. They don't know what talking shit is, which is why Shane Gillis got kicked off Saturday Night Live.
Right.
He's not a racist.
He's talking shit.
When you talk shit,
especially when comics get together
and talk shit,
we say silly things.
We don't mean it.
You know?
We say silly things about ourselves,
about our moms,
about our family,
about everything.
It doesn't mean we're racists.
Like, this is why it's so confusing.
People are looking to quote mine or
they're looking to like find especially with someone like me who's on a podcast for thousands
and thousands and thousands of hours you can find some dumb shit in there oh you want to pretend
that that's me well that's on you because that you know that's you you're playing a little game
there well it says more about them than it says about you but it's also an effective game if
people aren't paying attention because a lot of people don't want to listen. They don't have the time. So if
they look at a short snippet or they take things out of context, they can just decide, oh, Russell
Peters is a piece of shit. Instead of how I know you, you're a lovely guy. You're fun. You're a
great guy to hang out with. You know, I, um, fuck, I lost my words. Carry on. I was just saying this social score thing that they're doing in China is dangerous because what it does is it makes you follow this trend.
It makes you keep along with whatever is acceptable currently.
And you, you lose your ability to think outside the lines or express yourself in any controversial way because you'll lose social score.
The problem is that people have forgotten how to react naturally anymore.
So they wait to be told how to frame things.
Right.
So your immediate reaction to certain things
may be your genuine being,
and then somebody will go,
oh, no, that's not right because blah, blah, blah.
And then you go, oh, yeah, you're right.
I'm wrong.
And you're like, no, you're not wrong.
You are behaving like a human being that you are.
Right.
And you processed it the way you were supposed to process it.
But because it doesn't fit to this person's ideology, then now you're wrong.
Yeah.
And so people are afraid to be natural.
They're waiting to be told how to behave now.
Yes. Is this okay? Am told how to behave now. Yes.
Is this okay?
Am I allowed to do that?
And I'm like, why wouldn't you be?
You've lost your, you're basically not, you've lost your free will.
They're scared to be ostracized.
Yeah.
That's a big thing today.
You're scared to be on the out group.
And sometimes it makes people say completely irrational things.
And they hope that by saying these irrational things they're going to be accepted.
It's fucking weird, man.
It's weird.
It's a weird time.
It's like one of the weirdest times we've ever had in terms of communication because it takes real courage to actually speak your mind, especially if you're on social media, because you will get attacked.
You'll get attacked regardless.
Regardless. Whether you're right or wrong. Say the most positive thing and you will get attacked. You'll get attacked regardless. Regardless, whether you're right or wrong.
Say the most positive thing and you get attacked.
Someone will find a reason why you're a piece of shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, but that's because that's just how they viewed you
to begin with.
Exactly, exactly.
What about doing a show?
I was thinking about this,
this has completely nothing to do with anything,
but where everybody did mushrooms before the show and the audience is all on mushrooms
it's a good idea so you like you have to regulate the dose well no no I have to
like get a psychological examination of the people that are involved so because
if someone has like borderline schizophrenia right and then you trip
them over the deep end right because we right, right. Because we know people that have gone, right? You and I both know people that have taken pot edibles.
And maybe Joey Diaz has done that to a few people in their day.
And they break.
Or mushrooms can do the same thing.
Some people are psychologically fragile.
True.
Some.
We're living in a world of it.
And maybe some of them do no fault of their own you know
they're just they have a weird chemical composition and their brain doesn't work that good yeah i
think like a like a a dosage amount that you give them and then you put on like the newer comics at
the beginning while they're while the while the trip's setting in right and then you get to your
headliners and by the time they get like you and dave or something get on and the audience is right at the right place for everybody yeah but
the thing is everybody's right place is a different thing it's like some people are dealing with
demons and then that that mushroom hits them and the mushroom is like you're an asshole to your
mother no you know like some people are dealing with demons you know some people like you bullied your brother when you're growing up
I did it's why I did
Fuck how can I fix it? It's whatever was subconsciously or repressing I guess yeah, man
I do think that there's some real benefit in psychedelics for people and I've harped on that so many times that I avoid saying it
Cuz I said it. I've said it too much. You've said it a lot. You've got me involved in that world now.
Look at this shirt.
I know.
Tell me about your shirt.
That's Red Light Holland.
That's the company I'm working with.
You're working with a mushroom company.
I'm working with a mushroom company.
We're the truffle company.
So how illegal is that stuff on a one to ten?
Well, here's the problem.
So we're illegal in Holland. And the problem is I haven't been able to get out to Holland to try the product,
and I can't try it in North America, but it's illegal here.
But it's not illegal in Portland.
Portland has legalized basically everything, including Antifa.
Yeah.
They've QAnon everything.
Give it to them.
They want it all.
Yeah, you can threaten the mayor.
Yeah.
You could burn the fucking courthouse
They're wild up there. I had to watch what I brought it up to the to the whole to the whole team
I was like why aren't we in Portland and they're like we got to get it's more than just getting approved in Portland
You got to get the whole FDA involved everything is this this is the biggest
The the biggest door opening the biggest change in our society will be when they legalize
psychedelics because it will dissolve so many of our preconceived notions about what government is
what life is what civilization is what what community is what love is what insecurity is
there's so much of what we see every day when you're dealing with people that is based on
insecurity and fear. And one of the best methods for alleviating insecurity and fear are psychedelics.
And it could definitely help. We have a huge mental illness problem in this country
that I really feel that this stuff could really help.
I think microdosing is the way for a lot of folks.
That's what it's for. Yeah, this is a microding company. So, yeah, I mean, I think it'd be great for all the vets
and all the people. I mean, not saying we should pump it to the homeless people, but a lot of the
homeless people have their own issues that they're dealing with and it might straighten them out. It
may not, we don't know. Well, you know, that MAPS is doing some work with psychedelics and veterans with PTSD, using MDMA, using ecstasy essentially, pure.
And they've got really some really promising results.
And they continue to work on that.
And I think that's amazing that they're doing that and that they've gotten these studies funded and they've gone through and they hold real promise.
funded and have gone through and they they hold real promise and so i i will hope that eventually we come to our our senses and we recognize that there's a lot of things out there that can help
people and they're it's not the thing is that these are human issues like they're not it's not
that clear it's like you can't they're not, they don't work on everybody because everybody's different.
And it's not going to be perfect with everybody.
So everybody's different.
So if we do have things that are beneficial to a certain percentage of the population, they're not going to be beneficial to everybody.
And some people are going to have real problems with them.
And we have to accept that that is a part of being a person.
And that is the same thing with alcohol.
I think alcohol should be legal.
But some people are alcoholics. Some people can't drink drink at all like you and i just had a drink yeah and we're fine we're fine but some people cannot do that and they go off the
deep end you have some friends like that yeah we both do you know we both do that's and i can't
comprehend it because i don't have an addictive nature so yeah for me it's like well why can't
you just have the one or just not have any then and they're like you don't have an addictive nature. So for me, it's like, well, why can't you just have the one or just not have any then?
And they're like, you don't understand.
It calls me, and I'm like, I don't understand.
Man, it's genes.
That's a lot of it.
There's a lot of it is genes.
I have friends that are alcoholics,
and their whole family's alcoholics,
and I don't think that's a coincidence.
Yeah.
I don't get it because I can have a drink and not drink.
I do Sober October every year.
I don't drink for a whole month.
I want to get in on it this year. Let drink for a whole month. And it's not.
I wanna get in on it this year.
Let's do it.
Let's do it, Russell.
It's only a few months away.
Let's do it.
Is it five months away?
What are we at?
We're in May.
June, July, August, September, October, yeah.
Yeah, it's not that hard.
It's fun.
And the good thing is you do other things.
Like usually we have some sort of a challenge that we do
or you'll work out every day or something like that.
Like that's what I did last time.
I worked out every day.
It's nice.
Look at Tom.
Tom and Bert.
I mean, look at Tom's in great shape now.
You seen him lately?
Well, once he broke his arm and his fucking blue.
His whole fucking body.
He moved here today.
Did he come here today?
Today.
Today's moving day.
Oh, wow.
He sent me a text message today.
I'm supposed to do his podcast soon. I don't know. They have a studio out here now, son. Oh, wow. He sent me a text message today. I'm supposed to do his podcast soon.
I don't know.
They have a studio out here now, son.
Oh, shit.
Woo!
I told you.
Joe the Pied Piper Rogan.
When are you moving here?
You know, for me, I got bigger problems.
I got two kids, two baby mamas.
I got, you know, if I ever want to see my kids again, I can't leave.
I get it.
You got to talk to those bitches in the movie here.
Yeah, right.
No disrespect with the word bitches.
No, no, you were right.
You're not wrong, Joe.
You want another cigar?
Is that why you grabbed that?
I do, but a short story because I got to catch a flight soon.
You don't have to finish it.
Nah, I hate wasting cigars.
Drives me nuts.
Bring it with you.
What's that short story?
Take a short story from there.
Oh.
The middle ones.
This is a nice long smoke.
Yeah, there you go.
It's actually a really good smoke, by the way.
Yeah, they're great.
Thank you.
Shout out to Foundation Cigar Company.
Thinking about doing a cigar collaboration.
Look at you.
You're a fucking businessman now.
I got to do stuff, dude.
You're selling mushrooms.
I'm selling mushrooms.
What else are you going to sell? Guns? You got alcohol, tobacco, and businessman now. I gotta do stuff, dude. You're selling mushrooms. I'm selling mushrooms. What else are you gonna sell? Guns?
You got alcohol, tobacco, and firearms?
I got no guns yet, no. I'm not a gun
guy. I know that's your world.
It freaks me out.
Guns freak me out. Guns freak you out? Yeah, guns freak me out.
What freaks you out about them? The bang bang part?
No, I just don't like having that much power
in my hands.
So how do you feel when you hold your dick?
That's the kind of power
I can control.
I feel like He-Man.
You feel dangerous, though?
I feel dangerous.
Dangerous.
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
But I also understand
my triggers
as far as temper goes.
And I don't think
I'm the guy to have a gun.
You got a bad temper? I've never seen you i'm the guy to have a gun you got a bad
temper uh i've never seen you lose your temper once i've known you forever no i mean you get
in those places sometimes like i'm and in those moments i go i'm so fucking glad i don't have a
gun because you've dated some questionable women what is that what are you saying well my woman
now doesn't even get me there at all so it's wonderful i'm in a very peaceful place in my
life i gotta i gotta keep saying i got a fantastic i've never been this fucking happy
with that's beautiful you got lucky i really do that man you can get lucky in this life i got
lucky yeah you're lucky great she's a beautiful person not just pretty she's just she's so nice
she really is a sweetheart always always yeah she. Yeah, she's changed me, man.
Not that I was ever mean, but I was meaner.
And I just didn't know that people could be that nice all the time.
It's the quality of the humans that are around you, man.
They change who you are.
They really do.
It changes everything. It's like whether it's your friends or family members or even people that you work with, coworkers.
There's a pilot light in us and the wrong person
can blow out your pilot light.
Yes, that's a good way of putting it.
That's what happened to me last year.
My pilot light got blown out and I got dark.
Yeah, it can happen with everything, man.
Like literally with everything in your life.
You know? Yeah. with everything man like literally with everything in your life you know yeah across the board you just positivity is so important and also people that have like-minded values and goals where they
they just want to improve and they want to do well and and people that want to be happy that's
the other thing some people just don't want to be happy they're not they're not looking to be happy I think I'm an innately happy person you are
you're always happy and you know I had a lot of bad shit happened me when I was a
kid but then I didn't take it what's the worst shit that happened you just a lot
of bad bullying when I was when I was a kid like bad like not you know not just
like sticks and stone stuff like you know physical just and from strangers
adults adults bullied you yeah yeah
you know in the 70s in canada especially where i was living it's for to be an indian kid was
rough it was a rough place to be you were very low in the totem pole there and uh you're expendable
to them so they don't equal anything so when i hear about things and i'm like yeah i i know what
it actually looks and feels like but I didn't
harbor that to make me this bitter
person where I fucking hate white people you know what I mean
I was like I understood even at that small
age that I was like you know what I
I'm pretty sure this will turn around
and it did
you know I got lucky I kept
the right outlook I didn't demonize
an entire bunch of people
I understood that there's this way,
there's a process in life,
and this is the way it's going to work out for me.
Yeah, it's horrible to see people getting attacked
for just some shit they have zero control over at all.
Yeah.
That's what was happening.
And I'm talking from like four years old.
Four until I was about 15. what was happening. And I'm talking from like four years old. Four until I was about 15.
It was bad.
And those are very formative years for a human.
Do you think that that's what made you a comic?
That's definitely what made my comedy the way it is.
Why I'm so kind of not obsessed with, but why I'm constantly talking about race and culture and stuff.
Yeah.
I'm trying to figure out, I'm trying to tie us all together as opposed to set by, you
know, to the, to the average look or onlooker, it's going to look like I'm separating people,
but really I'm not.
Right.
I think where we're heading right now, we've, we've ended up in a place now where we went
from a melting pot to separation again.
I think it's going to come back.
I really do. It has to.
I really do.
I think there's plenty of people like you and me
that think that we could pull it all together.
We just have to agree upon it.
You know, like what Chappelle was saying,
like this kindness conspiracy?
We've got to kind of agree upon that.
We really do.
We really do, and it can be done.
It really can.
It's not that hard. It doesn't cost any money. Everybody can participate. We really do. And it can be done. It really can. It's not that hard.
It doesn't cost any money.
Everybody can participate.
We could all do better because of it.
It's something that's right for everybody.
When you see someone that's got a fucking KKK outfit on or something like that,
that's a sad, sad person.
That's sad.
They're looking to belong.
They're looking to be a part of a group.
They want to be part of something.
They're sad.
And they really don't know anything about anything else.
And so they really don't know anything about anything,
and now they're learning about something, but it's the wrong thing.
Right.
They found a tribe, but it's a shit tribe.
Yeah.
And then a lot of them come out of it.
Yeah.
There's a high recovery rate from that, I think.
You know who Christian Piccolini is? No. out of it. I think there's a, there's a high, uh, recovery rate from that. I think, you know,
Christian Piccolini is, no, he's a guy who was, uh, he was in like a white power group and then
came out of it and now, uh, helps people get out of those hate groups. Yeah. And you know,
does, uh, especially with such an Italian name, such a weird thing to do. I don't know his story exactly.
I heard him on a podcast before.
But there's, you know, it's like Daryl Davis.
Daryl Davis.
That's the black guy that I heard from?
Yes.
He's a gentleman that was on my podcast.
He's a brilliant blues musician.
On my podcast, he's a brilliant blues musician,
and he has personally himself converted over 200 people to quit the KKK and neo-Nazi organizations.
I've seen him. I saw that. Yeah, it's great.
Yeah, and came on the podcast and explained how it all happened,
that he was on the road, and he was in a club doing music, and he sat down with this guy and the guy was like i never had a drink
with a black guy before and he's like what and he goes yeah i'm in the clan and the guy was he was
like what the fuck are you talking about and he became this guy's friend huh and uh just said hey
you know next time i'm in town look me up and uh they hung out together they had dinner together a couple months later the guy
handed him his his outfit he's a grand dragon or whatever it is wow and he said i can't do
this anymore he's like i realize like i'm i'm wrong i've been told this i lived by this and
it's wrong and now i know because of you and daryl has done that with more than 200 people now. He's a big dude too, right? Yeah
yeah, but he's a sweetheart of a guy and and a
Great musician and that's what he started out as he didn't he's not like this guy's like I'm gonna be an activist
Yeah, just this real sweet open-minded guy, but also very intelligent and very articulate and when you're talking to the guy
You can't pretend he's not smart, smart right so like for a lot of these guys they're like shit you know like when
you're talking to someone who you've decided or it's been taught to you that they're an inferior
and then you're talking to him and you realize like this guy's brilliant he's making sense he's
calm he's reasonable i'm wrong yeah it's uh that's you know that's it's i think that's anything in
life you gotta somebody's coming at you one way you're gonna have to come at them another way
yeah like two angry people aren't gonna you know i think that's what happened in america last year
with the with the whole election you know right both sides were so extreme i think one hated one
they both hated it was both full of hate yeah. And that's why you're not going to, because people's back get up against the wall and they want to be wrong and strong at that point.
Wrong and strong.
The old wrong and strong.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a challenging time, but that doesn't mean that we're not going to pull out of it.
I think we're going to pull out of it.
I do.
I mean, we have to.
Yeah, we have to.
It's not a realistic look at life.
Yeah, we can pull it through.
We can.
We came this far.
Yeah, I mean, come on, man.
We came this far and then we stopped and we moved backwards a little bit.
It's a stall.
But this is the way it works with progress.
Progress comes in hills and valleys.
And I think our next hill will be higher than the hill that we previously ascended.
I think that's totally a possible scenario.
Or we can descend into madness and China can take over.
China and the Russians.
That's possible too, man.
If China is controlling China, just stop and think of that.
Like, oh, that's not possible.
Is China controlling China?
Yeah, well, China is in control of a billion people.
1.4.
Yeah.
Or 1.5.
Whatever it is, a billion and tack on another 300,000, it's not that big of an accomplishment.
I think it's...
You know? That's 300 million, isn't it's not that big of an accomplishment. I think it's a- You know?
That's 300 million, isn't it?
The 1.3, the 5.
1.5 is 500 million, isn't it?
Yes.
If they really have 1.5, is that what they-
How many people are in China?
1.4 or 1.5?
Let's find out.
India has 1.3.
Do they really?
Yeah.
India and China make up, what is it, more than half the Earth's population or something?
1.4.
Or a good third of it.
So China has more than a billion people more than the United States.
And they're in control of those people.
Yeah.
They got it locked down.
Yeah.
They're on top of it. For them to tack on, it's kind of amazing that America is the thought leader and the global superpower when we have only 300 and what do we have?
330?
What's America have?
Would you guess?
Tell your guess.
I figured it was around 300 and something.
It keeps growing for whatever reason.
We're number three behind China and India.
Really?
Population-wise?
Yeah.
What do we have?
It's a huge drop-off.
What do we have?
331.
331.
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
Look at that.
Come on, India.
Or come in, India.
Jesus Christ.
It's a major drop-off.
Yeah, 2 billion.
You know, if Pakistan had stayed with India, we would have the largest population in the world.
Wow.
Because they got 220 million.
That's a big drop off too.
Pakistan to India.
That's pretty crazy.
Well, I mean, because it's, you know, it was all one place at one point.
So we could have 1.6 billion people or something.
So what happened?
I don't really understand the politics behind it.
I know the British
had something to do with it.
Who fucked up?
British?
They fucked up a lot of things.
They did that.
They kind of did their thing
and then bounced on everybody.
They fucked up a lot of things,
didn't they?
They used to run shit.
How many people were in England?
Pull that up.
The UK.
Yeah.
67.8.
That ain't shit.
Yeah. That's fucking California. That ain't shit. Yeah.
That's fucking California.
And how many of them are non, you know.
They used to run everything.
Italy, 60 million.
Tanzania, just Tanzania.
Sorry, I was breaking down the UK.
It's multiple countries.
Wow.
South Korea.
Make dope phones, Only 51 million people.
Kind of wild, man.
You keep going down the line.
Did you see this thing where there was a gigantic data leak?
Like 150 million iPhones got hacked and they didn't tell anybody about it.
They decided to keep it to themselves.
Didn't Snowden mention why that happened?
I don't know. He said something about why the iphone is not uh the ideal phone for it's it's the ideal phone for hackers really that's
what they said because it's only like one code you have to figure out right and then the androids
have so many different systems running in them it's harder to hack them in that way in that
respect yeah but the iphone is a little bit more, and it's harder to get things into the app store.
Because there was a thing with Android phones recently.
I have both.
And I use iPhone more often, but I do like Androids too.
There's some positive qualities.
But one of the things that they did was they had an app in the uh google play
store i guess or i don't maybe you had to get it from a third party but the app would update your
operating system kind of automatically but it didn't really what it did is just fucking it
hacked into your phone yeah and like sent all your data to someone like credit card information or
what have you i don't know what it's sent but so you know that i i don't understand the android operating system but they do have some cool
fucking phones oh this the galaxy s21 ultra i have that one it's the shit you know what i want i want
that motorola flip i saw a dude with it and i was the uh they brought the razor back as an end as a
shit look cool as fuck you know what's cool hanging? Hanging up on people. Snap. Click out.
Yeah.
It's like the old school.
Fuck that motherfucker.
Snap.
Now you're searching and slapping your screen.
Yeah.
My friend Gordon has the one that opens up like a tablet.
Yeah. That one's really cool too.
Looks pretty dope.
It's dope because there's no line.
Yeah.
It's pretty sick because as a regular phone, it's just a chunky regular phone and it's kind of thin. So you could text with one hand pretty good, especially if you have smaller hands. And then when you open it up, I mean, you basically have a small iPad. So if you want to watch like YouTube videos or some shit or browse and it's 5g.
5G.
There's all these little fake phones showing up on the internet.
Like, what do you think of this?
And it was some cool drop-down phone that had Apple iOS on it.
And there's some, apparently there's some Android phone out there that can use Apple iOS on it.
Really?
Yeah.
I wouldn't trust that motherfucker.
No, no.
But that does seem like a cool option to have.
Apple's done an amazing job of locking down that ecosystem.
They did such an amazing job.
I mean, they locked it down.
If you don't want that green bubble, you have to go through Apple.
Yeah.
The green bubble is annoying to me.
It could be an issue.
And then if you send video, it comes in super low resolution.
On the green bubble?
Yeah.
If you have an Android phone and you try to send someone a big ass video.
It's annoying.
Yeah.
You don't get that iMessage thing.
No.
It's not.
You don't get the confirmation.
You don't know what quality they got.
Uh-uh.
You got to go, do you have WhatsApp?
Can I send it to you on WhatsApp?
Ugh.
Yeah.
WhatsApp.
The fuck out of here with that.
Yeah. And you have to send it SMS.
Like pictures are lower resolution, but videos are a real problem.
And you can't airdrop.
No, I like airdropping.
Airdrop is the shit.
Big fan of airdropping.
It's the shit.
Yeah.
Just that alone.
That kind of integration.
And for me, as a guy who always takes notes on his phone, that's big.
Because I want ideas for bits.
I want to be able to pull up my notes that I write on my laptop,
and I want them to go straight to my phone. Yep. Same and vice versa. Yeah. Yeah. I want to be able to pull up my notes that I write on my laptop, and I want them to go straight to my phone.
Yep, same and vice versa.
Yeah.
I don't want to think about it.
I'm a big fan of the AirDrop.
They got us locked in, though.
And then they take everything away, and they make you buy it separately.
And they're using Chinese slave labor.
Son of a.
I don't see the iPhone hack info story,
but as you were saying that...
From 2015.
Oh, okay.
I didn't miss the old part.
Yeah, it was a leak from 2015.
They had hacked into...
It was a recent story that Apple had decided
not to share the information.
So 150 million phones were potentially compromised and they decided not to share the information. So 150 million phones were potentially
compromised and they decided not to share
the information. It's just coming out probably
because of that trial they're involved with, I think.
Uh-huh.
See, the apps, when they first started coming out, they were
coming up with some really cool ideas.
There was one app you could get.
Here it is.
Biggest iPhone hack
ever. Fortnite trial exposes emails detailing here it is biggest iPhone hack ever
Fortnite trial
exposes emails detailing
the Xcode ghost malware
okay because Epic Games and Apple
is in the middle of a giant trial right now
because I think
Apple wants a piece
so if you have Epic on
if you have Fortnite on your phone
Apple gets like 30% or some shit
and so there's like some thing where Fortnite decided to not If you have Fortnite on your phone, Apple gets like 30% or some shit.
And so there's like some thing where Fortnite decided to not have their thing on the App Store because they want all the money.
Am I fucking that up?
You're pretty accurate.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
So here it is.
In case it slipped people's memory, in 2015, hackers successfully crept in a potentially dangerous
Xcode ghost malware to thousands of iPhone and iPad apps.
Apple, during that time, has been privy to the details of the attack to add the company on their part,
said that they notified hundreds of millions of victims.
Researchers also estimate that about 4,000 apps are infected.
What does that mean, though?
On their part, but what I heard was that they didn't notify people.
Google, Apple, Google, whatever that malware is,
and then Google, Apple chose not to Xcode ghost.
Apple chose not to, what would be the word?
Alert?
Inform.
Yeah, inform.
Apple chose not to inform.
Hmm.
I can't see it.
So it was an app you would get, and then it would...
I'm not an app guy, so I'm okay.
Is the Epic Games shut?
There it goes.
Apple did not inform victims about the attack.
There it is.
Apple kept mum.
Go to the first one.
Hack read.
Apple News.
There it is.
And this is on Apple News.
Whoops.
No, it's Apple News. It is Apple News. There it is. And this is on Apple News. Whoops. No, it's Apple News.
It is Apple News.
March 20th.
Report.
It must be noted that Xcode is Apple's app development tool.
Back then, it was reported that Apple stopped the attack quickly.
However, according to a new report,
emails presented during the Epic Games versus Apple court proceedings have revealed startling new details.
Here it is, on the particular attack.
It turns out that nearly 128 million iOS users downloaded the apps containing the Xcode ghost malware.
Reportedly, Apple kept this malware attack a secret and didn't share the impact's full
details. That's what
I read. I thought you were
getting into the thing that happened like this
week where some pipeline
was hacked and people are
there's a gas shortage in multiple states right now.
Yeah, there's a real issue with gas apparently.
Really? That sounds way worse than
iPhones going down. Well, we have electric cars.
Hey, Tesla.
Do you remember there was this one app?
I don't know if you know about this.
It was for single guys, and you would put on your phone,
and if you were at a club, you would give the girl your phone
to put her number in, and while she was typing in her number,
it would take pictures of her so you would know what the girl looked like.
Really?
Yeah.
Why not just take a picture of her?
Well, because you had a club. Yeah, whatever. You didn't her? Well, because you know, you had a shy.
Yeah.
Whatever.
You didn't want to be like,
you know,
you want to make it look like you're going to remember her,
but he would be like,
as you're,
as she's putting it in,
he's taking pictures of her face.
So you knew exactly.
Just lazy dudes are scared to ask for a picture.
Yeah.
Are you going to get someone's photograph?
Or get someone's phone number?
I think about 10 years ago,
this app was around.
Oh,
okay.
I didn't know.
If you're going to get someone's photograph,
shouldn't you be able to get a picture of them? Yeah get their number you should be like hey come take a picture it's
a big deal or they'll be like hey text me all right here put your number and then click click
click you know people today it's so uh it's so weird with the dating apps and all the shit that
people are doing today it's like the world is a a different place As communication is becoming more frivolous
And easier to just talk shit to people
It's also probably easier to hook up with people
Oh yeah
Like kids today
On these dating apps
Just swiping left and swiping right
Yeah
A lot of people are meeting their mate that way
Interesting
I don't know that you want to meet your mate that way
Why not? She's the perfect girl What do you give a fuck? You're trying to meet mate that way. Interesting. I don't know that you want to meet your mate that way.
Why not?
She's the perfect girl.
What do you give a fuck?
You're trying to meet girls that way?
Selfish asshole.
How about that?
How about he wants to meet people that way,
he doesn't want them to meet him that way?
Huh.
Not me.
But what if you're out there looking? I was never an app guy for that.
I would rather just meet people in person.
You're actually a famous comedian.
I don't know if you know about that.
Never heard about it.
Yeah, it's a little bit easier for you to meet people
true
but if you're a guy
who's working all day
and you really don't have time
to go out there and mingle
but you have like
shared attributes
like there's something about
you know your likes
and dislikes
and the things you're interested in
I mean
shared interests
that depends on what app you're on
and there's the hookup apps
right
that are strictly for that
what are the hookup apps
I think they're like
you know your basic your tinders your bumbles lets's fuck.com i don't think bumble is that i think
bumble is wasn't bumbled more hookup than tinder it's got other you can find a bff on there and
there's also like a business bumble where you can like find people to work with i think is so bf app
is you looking for friends for people to hang out with instead of like i am working on an app
are you yeah i'm working with this kid i came up with it i i said it as a joke and he goes that'd So BF app is you looking for friends. For people to hang out with instead of like. I am working on an app. Are you?
Yeah.
I'm working with this kid.
For real?
I said it as a joke and he goes, that'd be a really good app.
You don't want to say what it is?
Keep it to mom.
You don't want anybody stealing it.
Yeah, I know.
I don't know where we're at with it. I don't know if it's locked down yet.
Don't say anything.
Does it have to do with mushrooms?
No, no, no.
It does not.
It's a hook.
Not a hookup app.
It's a.
Don't say it.
It's a romance app. Keep it together. Oh, romance. Look at you. It's a hookup. Not a hookup app. It's a- Don't say it. It's a romance app.
Keep it together.
Oh, romance.
Look at you.
Romantic.
Trying to-
Yeah.
But it started off as a joke, and then he was like, it's a really good idea.
He's a young kid.
He's really smart.
If people meet and they get along, who gives a fuck how they meet?
True.
Whether it's an app or choking each other.
You know?
Yeah.
Choke.com.
You meet some girl in jujitsu, and she gets you in a triangle, and you're like, she's my new favorite. Yeah. She's my bestie. You let her get you in? Yeah. Chuck.com. You meet some girl in jujitsu and she gets you in a triangle and you're like,
she's my new favorite.
Yeah.
She's my bestie.
You let her get you in a triangle.
Yeah.
Do you think you'd date a girl and kick your ass?
Yeah,
I don't have a problem with that.
Really?
I don't have an ego about that.
Look at you.
Have you dated some Brazilian lady
who just fucking ragdolls you,
armbars you all the time?
Not dated,
but you know.
She's mad at you?
I've met some. But would you? Yeah, why bars you all the time? Not dated, but, you know. She's mad at you? I've met some.
But would you?
Yeah, why not?
If you were a single fellow.
Yeah, why not?
I know you're happy right now, but what if you weren't?
I like empowered women.
I dig that, though.
There's empowered, and there's also a girl
who'd kill you with her bare hands.
I'm not interested in that.
I mean, you know, she's not going to.
Maybe she will.
You know, then she's equally as dangerous as you are.
Maybe you change your opinion about guns. Wait a minute. If know, then she's equally as dangerous as you are. Maybe you change your opinion
about guns. Wait a minute.
If you're living with some gal.
This bitch has a black belt. I need a gun.
You're tough
enough to stop a bullet.
Could you imagine if you're living with a girl who'll fuck
you up? That would be annoying.
You know?
You think you can live with a girl
stronger than you? If you're like, could you just live with a girl stronger than you
if you're like
could you just open this pickle jar please
you'd look away
but you don't want her to be
physically stronger
no
you just want her to be
more talented than you are
in that world
like a talented fighter
but you want to be physically stronger
yeah I think it's
do you think you could date a power lifter
I don't think
it wouldn't be my speed
no
that's not my speed
I like them a little bit more feminine
what if she's really feminine but strong as fuck?
Hey, man, then that's what it is.
That's what you got.
That's what you got.
That's what you got.
Yeah, you never know until you meet them, right?
Yeah.
You might meet her and you're like.
You know, I never thought I, you know, without saying too much, but I've connected with some
ladies in the MMA world.
Oh, really? At the end of the day they're just women they just
want to be treated like women yeah most of them some of them don't some of them
want to beat your ass you want a leg kick you yeah yeah I don't want that's
why I want my legs taken out of me I know I mean just to if you were dating a
competitive fighter male or female like the stress of that job is so fucking different than like,
there's like cop, firefighter, like there's soldier, cop, firefighter, MMA fighter.
Right.
Right?
I would imagine like that's kind of, like what, yeah,
that's kind of the hierarchy of like stressful jobs like insanely intensely
is like soldier is probably the highest stress yes and then cop is you know a lot of times you're
right there with it yeah firefighter you could die in a fight no fire and then mma fighter like
you know every x amount of months you have this insane fucking thing that you do where you get
in a cage,
you put a mouthpiece on, and you try to knock someone unconscious.
I teach my girl little jujitsu moves, and she tries to do them to me every now and then.
And I'm like, hey, stop that shit.
Hey.
Yeah.
I'll be on top of her, and she'll be like, hey, is this the – and she put me – framed me up. Ezekiel?
Yeah, a little Ezekiel.
And I'm like – and then I'll still – I'll be like, no, you don't have And then I'll still be like, no, you don't have it.
I keep fucking up by telling her, you don't have it.
And then she keeps working it and I'm like, there it is.
You ever see that guy, Alexi Olenek, who lets
guys mount him and he Ezekiels him
from the bottom? Oh, no. You've never seen him?
No. I think he's tapped
out, well, at least
one guy in the UFC. I think it's been more than one.
But he's got this crazy move.
He Ezekiels you from the top position?
From the bottom.
From the bottom.
From the bottom.
It's madness.
He just has this, he's basically doing a rear naked choke from the front while you're on
top of him, but he doesn't have any leg control.
He's not squeezing you with his body.
He just has this nasty constriction, and he lets guys mount.
So what happens is he's making it like he's got
his arm wrapped around you he's making his like he's stopping the mount and you think he's that
you're passing and you're you're mounting him and right as you do that you're thinking about
mounting him and he fucking slides it in watch this watch how he does this so he's got a hold
of it right here but right now he's just kind of protecting him and he lets the guy mount him and then boom he sinks it in locking in there yeah look how he
does it as soon as he sinks in you're fucked man you're fucked because it's so tight and he's got
his his his arm like deep in the pocket of the the bicep just like a rear naked choke. Madness, right? That's wild. Look how sad that dude is.
He's so sad.
Wow.
He's so sad.
He was about to go to sleep.
That's why.
Yeah.
He has to get, dude, it's over.
You tapped.
He's like, I can't.
What happened?
Where's he from?
Russia, bro.
Oh, yeah.
Hard people.
Show that again.
Is it a Sambo move that he's doing?
Well, it's Ezekiel's just a standard submission move,
but to do it like this is crazy. Is it a Sambo move that he's doing? Well, Ezekiel's just a standard submission move,
but to do it like this is crazy.
But go for the transition because it's like,
so this is what happens.
You're in side control, and you think you're doing okay, right?
And he just kind of holds his head. But then as soon as the guy mouths,
then he slides it in front of his face.
He's like, oh, you fucked up, son.
I wanted you to do that. Yeah, and he gets it in front of his face. Oh, yeah. He's like, oh, you fucked up, son. He tucks it under. I wanted you to do that.
Yeah.
And he gets it in perfect.
Have you tried it?
I don't know anybody else.
No, I have not.
I've done it from the top, but I don't know anybody else who's done that like that, especially
in not only in an MMA fight, but also with gloves.
Have you ever tried grappling with gloves on?
Oh, it's awful, right?
It's hard.
Yeah.
I'm really impressed when they lock on guys with gloves on.
Oh, that's right. He did it on this guy, too.
So this guy takes him down.
Same thing. Look, he doesn't have it in here.
He allows you to mount.
And then as you mount, he slides it in.
Oh, no, no. He's in half guard here.
He got it from half guard. But the same thing.
And they all have the same look
on their face.
They all have the same look on their face. They all have the same look on their face.
It's such a sneaky move.
But only Nick has that crazy grappler strength.
What weight is he?
Heavyweight.
Mark Hunt?
Yeah, he fought Mark Hunt.
I think he got Mark Hunt in an armbar or something.
I think, yeah, that's it.
Damn.
Yeah, he's a beast.
Is he getting a title shot soon?
No.
He's lost to a lot of guys, but he's got to be a top 15 heavyweight.
What's Oli Nick ranked?
I would imagine he's ranked like 11, 12, somewhere in that range.
He's older.
He's in his 40s.
He's probably not going to get a title shot.
That sucks.
But he's a tough guy.
Yeah.
How old is he? He's got like 60 plus mma fights too jesus christ does it say how old he is
oh it's ranking he's ranked 15 yeah see i know my shit i'm a professional believe it or not
you know i do miss the ufc without without you when you're not commentating.
Well, good news.
This weekend I'll be there.
Who's fighting this weekend?
Well, we have the lightweight championship of the world,
Charles Oliveira versus Michael Chandler.
Pull up the card so you can see the whole card.
He's 43, only Nick.
Oliveira versus Chandler.
I'm a little upset at Michael Chandler's six-pack.
Makes me feel like a fat fuck. Let's take a look at the fight card there. And Oliveira versus Chandler. I'm a little upset at Michael Chandler's six-pack. Makes me feel like a fat fuck.
Let's take a look at the fight card there.
And Oliveira's a beast.
That's a great fight.
Yeah, that's good.
Tony Ferguson versus Benil Darius.
Love it.
Kaitlyn Chukagian versus Viviana Arrugio.
Shane Burgos versus Edson Barbosa.
That's a fucking barn burner.
Edson Barbosa, wow.
At 145.
He's featherweight now.
Woo!
Matt Schnell,
Jorio,
Botorin.
And who else is in the prelims?
Jacare.
Jacare,
Andre Munoz.
That's on ESPN.
That's the free fight,
yeah.
Lando Venata,
Groovy Lando,
and Mike Grundy.
Is she related to the other chef?
Yes.
Yeah,
Antonina,
excuse me,
is her sister.
Andrea Lee, Andrea KGB Lee, another Russian.
Jordan Wright, Jamie Pickett.
Isn't that Michael Page knockout the other day?
Dude, Michael Page is a beast.
He's so good.
He's an interesting cat because he came from the point fighting background.
He's got such a crazy style, that hands down, wide stance, leaps in.
He's the one that got kicked out of the UFC?
No, no, no.
He was never in the UFC.
Michael Page lost to Douglas Lima for the title in Bellator as a welterweight.
And he's elite.
He's really good, man.
He's really fucking good.
Really talented.
Dana never tried to recruit him.
Well, he was over in Bellator already, and they treat him well. Look, it's good that there's good fighters over good, man. He's really fucking good. Really talented. Dana never tried to recruit him. Well, he was over in Bellator already, and they treat him well.
Look, it's good that there's good fighters over there, man.
I think it's really good.
I think it's important.
I think it's – we need more competition, whether it's PFL or one championship.
It's real good to have a lot of different organizations.
I like one.
I like one a lot.
They're doing great.
Yeah.
Yeah, they have grappling now, too.
You know what's interesting about one?
They have Muay Thai with little gloves,
like John Wayne Parr just fought Nikki Holtzkin
in a Muay Thai bout in a cage,
and now they're going to do grappling.
Just submission grappling?
Just submission grappling, yeah.
They signed Gordon Ryan to fight Shinya Aoki.
Ooh, Gordon Ryan, wow.
Yeah, so he's over there doing a grappling matchup.
That's Henzo's guy, right, Gordon?
Yes, well, John Donaher, he's, I mean,
John Donaher comes from Henzo,
and John Donaher is the main coach of Gordon Ryan,
and Gordon Ryan's literally the greatest grappler of all time.
Yes.
It's kind of a, it's a showcase more than anything,
because Shinya Aoki is also much smaller.
I mean, it's a mismatch in every way.
It's a mismatch physically in size.
Gordon's way bigger.
It's a mismatch talent-wise.
Are they not doing it by weight?
This fight is not.
I think what it is is nobody wants to get fucked up by Gordon.
But at least if you're a lighter guy,
you can say, hey, I took a chance.
He had me by 50 pounds.
Yep.
And I'm going to try my speed on him.
Yeah.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Good luck doing anything to Gordon.
He's a fucking gigantic, amazing grappler.
He's from New York?
Who trains every day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, he's from New Jersey, but they live in Puerto Rico now.
Seems to be the place.
Well, they couldn't do any grappling in New York City, man.
They shut down grappling in New York City.
That's right.
They had to figure out what to do.
They had a lot of competitions they had to train for, and they were getting shut down.
People were coming to the basement where Henzo's place is and fucking with them.
And so someone that they know that's their friend in New York City, or in Puerto Rico
rather, offered their place to them. And so they packed up in New York City or in Puerto Rico, rather,
offered their place to them.
And so they packed up their shit and they moved to Puerto Rico.
Danair moved there too, right?
Yep.
They all did.
The whole squad.
Gary Tonin, Craig Jones.
They all moved down there.
Nicky Rodriguez.
I'm hoping they move to Texas.
They're talking about doing that.
That'd be good.
That would be the shit.
I'll help them.
I'll fucking throw up the bat signal.
Let's go.
Yeah, you're the guy.
You should run for mayor here eventually.
No.
No.
I don't want to be a mayor.
I don't want to be any kind of politician.
So if you're thinking about it, no.
Not interested.
I'm not interested.
You feel me?
I feel you, kid. We should get you out of here so you can catch your flight. I've got to get your flight. You feel me? I feel you, kid.
We should get you out of here so you can catch your flight.
I gotta get your flight.
You gotta fly back.
Got a lot of shit going on in California.
I do.
I gotta do my engagement photos tomorrow.
Woo!
You excited?
I am, actually.
You're already wearing a wedding ring.
Yeah, you know what's funny about that is,
when I gave her an engagement ring,
she said,
you've given four other bitches an engagement ring before she said, you've given four other bitches
an engagement ring before me
and you never followed through.
Ooh.
She said that?
You were a little too honest.
She said,
I don't give a fuck.
You know me.
She said,
you know what?
You've been engaged to,
women have engaged to you,
but you've never been engaged to them.
Oh.
Show me something.
So she bought me a ring.
She was like,
I'm wearing this,
you're wearing this.
Wow.
I'm like,
that sounds fair.
I like it. That's a good move. And I really like wearing it, to bought me a ring. She was like, I'm wearing this. You're wearing this. I go, that sounds fair. I like it.
That's a good move.
And I really like wearing it, to be honest with you.
See, sometimes, I mean, just because you went through some ones that didn't work out, I
think this one's going to work out.
Oh, yeah.
I like all the words coming out of your mouth, Russell Peters.
You know, Joseph, I'm happy for you out here.
Thanks, brother.
You seem spry and happy and relaxed, and it makes me happy.
Thanks.
I'm happy.
Everything's good.
I'm glad Jamie's out here.
Look at Jamie.
Jamie looks miserable as fuck, but he's happy.
That's not true.
I'm just kidding.
He looks happy.
Listen, brother, I miss you.
I love you.
It's always great to see you.
Thanks.
I miss seeing you around the store.
Can I promo my podcast again?
Yeah.
That's Culturally Cancelled with Russell Peters.
Culturally Cancelled?
Culturally Cancelled. That's what I called it okay it's on uh iheart radio okay and um youtube as
well do you have a youtube i believe there's a youtube format of it is it a video or is it just
audio right now uh there you see how you have really good cameras set up yeah i have an iphone
that's fine that's how lex friedman does his it looks great when you
look at it on youtube it looks just as good it's fine when he came here and we did one he did it
just with iphones oh yeah yeah phones is no no problem man phones today are very good right i
mean you could you could film a fucking movie with a phone yeah we're good with that i mean
we'll step it up eventually accordingly amen go back and look at episode one of this fucking stupid show what when did it start 2010 right 29 29 so i started doing it in 2010 in december of 2010 was
the first one i did wow in your house wow remember those days yeah right you hear my kids screaming
in the background no they were babies then my babies are the same age as my baby it's stub a
toe and scream and you'd hear in the background we We were on couches. And your wife was so sweet.
The feel good podcast.
Look at you with the fucking hat.
Look at you.
You look like a fucking.
You know Nick Turturro, don't you?
Yes.
Oh my God.
You know what's funny about that?
We're doing this.
He's smoking a cigar and he's so passionate.
He's talking and he's lighting the cigar right by the mic and the mic caught fire.
Oh no.
How's he doing, man?
I haven't seen that guy in forever.
He's doing great.
Fantastic actor.
Amazing actor.
And that's his cousin-in-law, Gabe.
White Claw Gabe?
White Claw Gabe.
Does he love the White Claws?
Is that why?
He loves the White Claws.
He's autistic, but he's fucking hilarious.
He's the sweetheart of a man, that Gabe.
Love that guy.
Beautiful.
So that's available.
The Feel Good episode.
Yeah, we called it the Feel Good episode.
And that's your Russell Peters channel.
Is that on the Russell Peters channel?
Yes, it is.
Good.
Yes, it is.
All right, my brother.
Let's wrap this bitch up.
Bring it home.
Thank you.
Thanks, Joseph.
Great to see you, my friend.
Always.
You too, Jamie.
Good to see you, pal.
Goodbye.
Goodbye. you thanks Joe great to see you my friend always you too Jamie good to see you