The Joe Rogan Experience - #1677 - Tim Dillon

Episode Date: July 3, 2021

Tim Dillon is a comedian, tour guide, and host. His podcast “The Tim Dillon Show” is available on Spotify.

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. How are you? I'm wonderful. Thank you for having me. I didn't know you have no caffeine. No caffeine for years. How many years?

About two. What is that like? You sleep better. That's what I hear. Yeah. I was drinking coffee in the morning and then having to,

I would drink a cup at like four and I would drink a cup at four. That would keep me up till 3 a.m. every night. Mm. Yeah.

So I had to stop because I'm an addict. I have addictive personality and anything can become habitual. Yeah. So I had to be careful. I think I'm an addict too. Well, you control it better than most. Yeah, but it's the same thing. You would be the definition of a high functioning addict. This has 300 milligrams of caffeine. Now, what does that do? When you drink that, how do you feel? Sleep like a baby. Really?

I can go to sleep under this table. Interesting. 300 milligrams. What does a regular cup of coffee have? That's not even 100, I don't believe. I think if you go to Starbucks and you get one of them whammy jammy 20 ouncers, I think that's a couple hundred milligrams, right? We've done this before, right?

It's 225, I want to say. 225. Starbucks is extraordinarily high in caffeine. 95? Eight ounce cup, which is very small. Oh, well, eight ounce. But 20 ounces is a venti, right? So maybe a little more.

Yeah, it's in the range. I loved it. I started drinking coffee when I think my dad got me my first I wanted to try a latte We were in the Hamptons, I was like nine And he said, yeah, try it And I started drinking coffee in my teens And I kept drinking it

Throughout my twenties And then I had to get rid of it But I loved it, nothing is better in the morning Than coffee and a cigarette And you got rid of both of them And then I went back. I go with cigarettes. I go on and off.

Very bad. How are you at right now? Now is on. Yeah, you're on. You want a cigar? I don't want a cigar, unfortunately. You don't like cigars? I don't like cigars.

Really? Yeah, because you don't inhale. So what's the fun? You can see what happens. But I quit. I quit for 17 days. So I didn't smoke for 17 days. Yeah.

And then I just started, and then I'll quit for two months, and then I'll start. It's very compulsive and very bad. And when you smoke, do you smoke before shows? Do you smoke all day long? I don't smoke as much in the day, but I will smoke. Maybe I'll have one or two during the day, but at night, because I like to talk and bullshit. Yeah. or two during the day, but at night.

Because I like to talk and bullshit. Yeah. So if I have a captive audience of people, like at my house, in my backyard, or at the comedy store, if we're all standing in the parking lot, whatever it is, it's just the smoking. I was in Denver, and when it's humid,

you don't want to smoke. It doesn't feel good. But when you're in Denver, and it's cool nights like LA, you're a chimney, it feels great. I mean. It doesn't feel good. But when you're in Denver and it's cool nights like LA, you're a chimney, it feels great. I mean, it doesn't feel great, but it does. Well, it gives you a nice head rush. It gives you a nice head rush. And of all the things I've been addicted to, cocaine, booze, pills, this is the hardest to get rid of. Really?

Truly. Wow. This is the hardest to knock. Because when somebody's drinking, I look at it and I go, okay, it doesn't look good to me. I associate it with so much trauma that I go, I can't grab that glass of whiskey. It'd be a problem. But it really is. I'm just like, that's just a cigarette.

Just a cigarette. And it's a very tough addiction. Is it that it's just a cigarette? You think it's no big deal to smoke it because it's not going to fuck you up. It's not going to get you drunk. Well, there's that. Then there's the addict brain that goes, we're having one. We're having one.

We speak in the royal we. We go we. The addict brain is very interesting because it's a part of you, but it's also separate. Right. So it's like a separate part of you, but it's also separate. Right. So it's like a separate part of you that isn't, it's somebody else. It's in there. It goes, here's what we're going to do. And you start listening.

You start going, okay. This seems like a good idea. And that's why when you go to AA or any of these programs, they go, you can think your way back into drinking or drugs because you can. Because that addict, it's like weird, it's like, you know, you see the obviously like, you know, movies where there's a spaceship and then like there's a little module

that just detaches from the spaceship. Yeah, a pod. Yeah, a pod, that's the addict brain. It just detaches, it goes all clear, everything's good. Everything's good, just just do one it makes sense to do one you're at the comedy store you had a good set

you're amongst friends you deserve it you're in the parking lot you're not doing heroin people do heroin just a cigarette you're not beating a woman up

you're just having a cigarette you can drive and smoke at the same time how bad can it be so here's the thing if they ban that I think I'd quit

but driving and smoking to me is the most fun i've really ever had in life there's nothing better than just rolling the window over i bought that range rover i said okay i'm not gonna smoke it it's a nice car all my friends go you cannot smoke in that car and then the addict brain you know i think three stop lights in it goes well what the hell's the point? You own this car. You're going to not smoke in the car. So I started smoking in the car. And when I was an addict, I would wake up and I would take two Percocet and I would get a bacon, egg and cheese sandwich in Long Island and a cup of coffee and then drive to my mortgage job.

I was like 20, 21. And I would smoke cigarettes. And I remember sitting in the car. And it was a piece of shit. It was like a Ford Focus. But I would go cigarettes, and I remember sitting in the car, and it was a piece of shit. It was like a Ford Focus, but I would go, I'm just happy. Things are just good. Yeah, you're moving. Things are good.

Things are happening. Things are happening. I'm going to get a better car, and I'm going to get a better life, but right now, things are good. So that's the biggest problem for me is like it's still there. We were talking about Range Rovers before, about your Range Rovers fucking up. You know what I really just realized while we were saying this? You should be in a Cadillac. You should get a fucking Escalade.

That's true. Have you driven one of the new ones? I've not. They're fantastic. It's a real Tony Soprano car. Oh my, the new ones are so good. I want to check them out. We've driven a couple of them whenever I go to do a gig.

Dude, they're easy to drive. Right. They're no bigger than your truck. Maybe slightly bigger than your Range Rover, but so comfortable, dude. Yeah. First of all, I know you like comfort. Right. You like that kind of thing.

Yeah. They have this magnetic ride. It's adjustable magnetic ride thing. I don't know the technology behind it, but it fucking absorbs shit. Like bumps in the road just go right by. Just smooths it over. Yeah. It's so nice inside, too, and super comfortable.

And the fucking screen goes like the dashboard is one giant screen. There's another giant screen to the left. Yeah, it's nice. It's even going to get a video or an image of the inside. Look at the inside of these fucking things. I'm telling you, man, the new one, they knocked it out of the park. It's fucking amazing. I love it.

I look forward, whenever we drive places or whenever we fly places and we rent one, I look forward to getting in these things. Well, it's like a Lincoln Navigator. It's like a boat. It's like a luxury yacht. That's another one that's awesome. The new Lincoln Navigator is fantastic too. But I think out of the two, this is the one I would choose.

It's pretty fucking dope. Scroll back down again. And you know what? It's a lot less expensive than a Range Rover. And the RZA is doing a goddamn ad for it. How about that? That's the RZA from Wu-Tang. I love it.

The guy who was on my podcast in L. Wrongs fucked it up. Not really. Was it Journey? He didn't really fuck it up. You like muscle cars. You don't like comfort. You don't want to feel lulled into a state of comfort. That's right. I drove BMW Alpina.

It's one of the fastest sedans. And I was just driving it like 180 miles an hour to go to Ralph's. And I said, this is going to end up being a problem. I'm going to kill myself or somebody else. I'm not a great driver. That's the somebody else. I'm not a great driver. That's the other thing. I'm not a great driver. I've totaled five cars.

Not recently, but I've totaled five cars. In the booze days? Back in those days. A few hit and runs, nothing crazy. No one got hurt. No one got hurt. It's just a horrible way to meet someone. So I would always leave the scene scene but I was a bad driver and I remember I

was in a car with my secretary one of the secretaries who worked in my mortgage office and we you know I made like a left turn from the right lane and we hit a car head on and her head bounced off the um glove box of the car and she had a big we were going to get drugs I mean you know and she's fine now and she wasn't a triathlete It wasn't like she was But she hit her You know what I mean It wasn't

It wasn't She was We were both You know We were sedentary Yeah But she hit her head And it was a bowling ball

Size welt Oh my god That filled up with like Blood or pus In the car Like immediately Oh Jesus And we got out of the car

And I looked at her I'm like man I'm fucked And then I didn't drive For like a year um i've had my license suspended over 20 times 20 times yeah because i didn't pay tickets so in long island they would suspend your life and it's a serious crime in long island so i've been to jail just for a few hours but because i drove with a suspended license like they they take you to jail and then you have to get bailed out. I mean, I had to pay thousands of dollars. So I'm not a great, so there's something about a comfortable car

where I'm just like, let's just chill. Let's just chill in an Escalade. Yeah. It's a good feeling. My ultimate goal is a driver. Because there's something about just being in a backseat chilling that I do like. What if he starts complaining? Well, it's going to be Alex Jones.

So he'll entertain me. He'll drive the car. He'll be drunk. I've only had half a bottle of vodka. He'll be certainly drunk. Half a bottle of vodka. I'm fine. But I'm better now.

No accidents, nothing. I'm very good now. No, I do like driving comfortable cars. Don't get me wrong. It's just when I grew up, when I was a young boy, the cars that I would see, like when I worked at a gas station that would drive by, they were always American muscle cars. Yeah. I'd be like, oh, look at that fucking thing.

Yeah. It's like there's something burned into my DNA. Of course. That loves those 1960s, early 1970s cars. Yeah, I talking about like Mustangs Love them. You love them. Okay. I can't get enough of them right when I see them like I get excited about those cars Yeah, like my friend Corey came to my house today, and they had a 1968 GMC truck that that had been rebuilt and it was a beautiful Yeah, and I just I something I see those like oh you get excited

Yeah, look at that fucking thing Yeah, it's toxic masculinity. That's what it is. It's appreciation of American art is what it is that was probably one of the best errors in America And if you look at like the architecture that mid-century modern Architecture where you could find it like Palm Springs and you know parts of California and everywhere, but it's really concentrated there. That was the era when we were killing it across the board with what we were making. Manufacturing. Manufacturing.

We were making great products. Our houses were beautiful. We felt we were going to the moon or maybe. Maybe not. We were trying to. So when you go back to that era, It's kind of cool to look at things That were made in that era When we really believed we were at our zenith

We didn't know it but when you look back at that Obviously it wasn't People didn't have rights and things weren't nice But just speaking strictly about the materials And the things we were making We were top of the line But at least there was a recognition that people didn't have rights And it was wrong and they were trying to change

100% first time and 100% that now we're at a point where we go people have too many rights Now we're going the other way. I am seeing people Legitimately tweeting. Yeah trends racial rights are human right of course. They're legitimately Trying to transracial ism. There was a guy who got kicked off Twitter a few years ago He was really funny, and he had a parody account where he would write hashtag wrong skin Like and he was saying that he's black he's the whitest guy alive right and he was he was saying I was born the wrong skin But it was just he was a comic I used to go back and forth with them right on DMS I thought he was a layer. I'm like right your fucking accounts brilliant and he was just

fucking around that was his thing and he was always promoting this transracial thing but he was doing it just as a troll because people would freak out right I realize it was a parody they get mad at him but people are actually fucking saying it now and do you see that the pop guy yeah I think a pop fan who had plastic surgery to make himself Korean. Yeah. He says he identifies with being Korean. And you know who actually, and Jamie might look this up, because I believe I'm correct.

I believe Rachel Dolezal said, I support this guy. Yes. And that's real, right? Yes, it's real. Yeah. Well, all it takes is a couple. It's like, look, if you have one match and you try to start a forest fire, it might go out before you can get those pine needles lit.

Right. But if you have two matches. Yeah. Now you got a fire. We got two. We got two transracial people. Yeah. You might be able to.

Look, people are willing to believe all kinds of nonsensical ideas. Rachel Dolezal, a white woman who gained notoriety for claiming she identifies as black. First of all, that's not enough of a description of her. She was the head of the NAACP in Washington State? I don't know where, but she had power. Yes. I mean, well, she was doing, arguably, she was doing good things for black folks that lived there.

She was running an organization that was designed to fight against discrimination. And she was doing it under a false pretense. Well, it's like, you know, I always give this example. My mother's a schizophrenic. If instead of putting my mother in a mental institution and medicating her, we said, all of your ideas are great. And here's a profile in Rolling Stone. We'd have a real problem. It's the reality. said all of your ideas are great and here's a profile in Rolling Stone we'd have a real problem that's the reality like and she's has real mental illness

it's not like I'm anxious she's nuts right and we got a medicator and she's got it like not live in society because she cannot handle it right this is a fact if we were to then encourage this behavior, go, no, it's a good idea. This is a great idea. And if she was on the internet, people might be going, no, you're right. Elvis might be your father,

which is something she used to say at Christmas. She used to go, it's very possible that Elvis might be my father. And my grandmother would go, I didn't have sex with Elvis. And then my mother would go, but then you might not be my father. And my grandmother would go, I didn't have sex with Elvis. And then my mother would go, but then you might not be my mother. She's nuts. Real nuts.

And that's why I get upset at these people that are like, I'm not upset with them, but like everybody now has a thing. Everyone's, I'm anxious. I'm depressed. I'm tired. I'm attacked. And, you know, reality is real mental illness. You don't get a comedy special you don't get a profile in Rolling Stone you get locked up truly because you're a danger

to yourself and others which my mother is and I see this and I go this is not people that are operating with full use of all of their faculties something is wrong something's wrong but it's wrong in a mild way where they can justify this weird thing especially at this time in society right where we'll tolerate we'll tolerate it not just tolerate it we'll encourage it it'll be encouraged i think people are going to be transracial i think in the next few years transracialism is going to be like fully embraced and then we're going to have black folks on our side because they're going to go, hey, now this is crazy. This is crazy.

All this stuff about trans women competing in the Olympics, that wasn't as bothersome. Yeah. Jay Chappelle has a fucking brilliant bit about it. I don't want to give away the bit, but he's got an amazing bit about it. Yeah. It's strange. It's hard to care about all this stuff, right? I think that's also something that people are wrestling with how to do.

Well, also, this guy picked Korean. Right. The thing about Koreans is notoriously hard workers, notoriously very, very tough to get them to complain about shit. Right. They're not the type of people that go, they fucking grind. Right. Koreans, like, you know, obviously there's generalization. Right.

But very hard workers. Right. Very well educated. They embrace, like, this idea that you're supposed to go out there and earn your your right place in life if someone comes along and says that they're korean they're not going to give a fuck they don't care they're not going to freak out they're just like we're working we're busy yeah it's it's crazy it's wild to to think that we're approaching that time but we probably are in a few years we're definitely going to have transracialism. We're going to talk about this in two years.

There's going to be transracial, there's going to be groups that are designed to help transracial people. There's going to be transracial people that are going to try to get involved in affirmative action for transracial people. China's going to win. And the reality is, at this point, it's almost like they may deserve to win. win and the reality is at this point it's almost like they may deserve to win like this is really so scary where you go when you look at it when you watch the youtube videos and somebody goes um there's an innumerable amount of pronouns and i will tell you what i'll be called when i'll be called and this that and the other thing and you watch people argue about this and you go here's the new language we've invented overnight and you look at wrestling with all this stuff and the idea that we're now here

where people are going where we're at transracialism it's really just the end of the West have you seen neo pronouns now I've seen them all I saw a girl with a mustache explaining the need for neo pronouns yeah well the other thing is if you destroy gender it's incredibly offensive to gay people, right? Like if I was straight, I would have sex with women. If gender didn't matter, I would just hook up with women because my life would have been easier, right? Right. So this whole idea that like gender isn't real or fluid or doesn't matter is in essence kind of homophobic. It's basically saying gay people

don't exist or their preferences are somehow bigoted but it's like no biologically there are people that are attracted to what like i talk i was in texas i met some lesbian one of them that didn't kick me off airbnb and she was saying that every year they go out in like the wilderness of texas and have some lesbian festival i don't know what it is it's just they play acoustic guitars and swim in a lake, whatever it is. She goes, this year was the first year they got complaints that trans women couldn't attend, which is women with penises. And they go, hey, we don't hate anybody. We love everybody.

But like, this is a festival for lesbians. And they didn't want biological men at the event because that's not what they're into. They're not into penises. So if you show up and you're like a nice person, that's great, but they're trying to hook up in the wilderness. They're trying to like meet women with vaginas. So they said they got an insane amount of hate for just specifying that it's a woman-only event.

And they go, you didn't include trans women who may or may not have transitioned. They may just be like, hey, they said you didn't include non-binary. You didn't include any of that. But here's our thing. Genitals matter to us because we don't want to hook up with dudes. So that's how crazy we're getting now. There was a tweet the other day that said, we're not fully equal until you don't care about your date's genitalia.

I saw that. Yeah, that's real. People are going, if you don't care about, if you go out with somebody and you care about what gender they are, you're harboring deep-seated prejudices. That's how crazy we've gotten. But it's not. It's a very small percentage of very small percentage of people but they're all over they're all over hollywood they're all over the universities they're i mean the people that hold these viewpoints are not you know that's what i you know the people that like you know believe

that the holocaust didn't happen are not at yale they're who knows they're in some small, they're not a powerful faction of people. They're usually kooks. The people that believe this stuff are controlling large institutions and that's scary. It is scary. And it bleeds out into corporations because then they graduate and then a lot of them go into these corporations, and the corporations are dealing with, if you're hiring 20 people straight out of the university, you have 40 employees.

Half of your employees have been indoctrinated into this crazy Marxist, leftist, idealistic perspective that they've been taught in college by people who've never been in the real world, which is where it gets really crazy. You take people who go from universities straight into being employed by universities. Yes. So they stay in this kind of this echo chamber and they teach it to kids. And then these kids go and infect these universities with this crazy woke bullshit. Well, gay people don't understand it.

Like a lot of them that are over a certain age. I have a joke in my act now where I say you get no sympathy for being gay from a kid like go tell a 16 year old it was tough coming out of the closet they'll turn around and be like do you know how hard it is to be a pansexual communist witch you know like do you know so there's no like being a white gay dude in your 30s you might as well be a nazi i mean they're just like you're the problem and so most people just don't understand this. But the people that don't understand it are sick and tired of fighting. Because I get it. It's annoying.

And people just say, you know what? I just want to join my friends and family and whatever and let these people do whatever they want. The problem is then those people that run around unchecked, then we live in an insane world. Well, not just an insane world, but part of what's going on with these people is forced Compliance like they want you to agree to their list of demands Like people with penises should be able to go into women's bathroom like you saw the thing that happened in Los Angeles the spa Yeah, where this lady's like there's a guy in the women's room walking around with his dick hanging out Yeah, and I don't know was she with a child. I don't know possibly was she with a child, but she

I don't remember she was with a child? I don't know. Possibly. Was she with a child? I don't know. I don't remember if she was with a child, but she was fucking furious. And they were like, well, that person identifies as a woman. She's like, well, I'm looking at his dick. Right. Like, this is crazy. So now- You should have to commit, I think.

But people are protesting now against that spa. Of course. They're organizing this big- They're saying, mask up and let's smash trans. Right. Yeah. Exclusive Saturday showdown is in the work for over trans blow up at Y Spa. Like this is how crazy it is.

This is how crazy it is. Mineral salt massages and hydro dermabrasion facials weren't enough to calm the nerves of some patients at the Y, We Spa, Koreatown Health Club, scene of a showdown over nudity in gendered spaces after a customer confronted spa staff about a trans woman with male genitals being allowed to disrobe in the spa's female section. The ruckus was caught on camera and quickly went viral on Twitter on Sunday, fueling a furious online debate with threats of a boycott against the spa about the rights of trans people to use women's spaces. I hate that term, spaces.

It really drives me crazy because it's one of those loony new ways of talking about things. Versus the rights of cisgender females. I hate that word, too. Biological females to not be exposed to male anatomy. As of Tuesday morning, a pair of videos shared by the pro-Trump conservative commenter Ian Miles Chem. on Saturday, July 3rd at the We Spa. Why spa? Counter protesters are calling for their ranks to arrive at 10 a.m. Jesus Christ.

So let's play it. Let's hear what it happens because I didn't listen to it. It's okay. It's okay for a man to go into the women's section, show his penis around the other women, young little girls under age, your spa, we spa, condone that. Is that what you're saying? Like I asked. So he could stay there. He could stay there but sexual orientation. I see a dick. It lets me know he's a man. He's stay there. What sexual orientation? I see a dick. It lets me know he's a man.

Yeah. He's a man. He is a man. He is not no female. He is not a female. He is not a female. Hold on. So now this is a black woman, I believe.

Okay. Other women who are highly offended for what they just saw. Well, this is what Kurt Metzger would call an intersectional car crash. Yes. Because now you have to go to like a court and go, who gets to? The argument about trans, which we all understand, there's genuine cases of gender dysphoria. People say, I'm happier in the other gender. And some of those people can't afford surgeries and a lot of them want to have them um but the whole argument was like this is how seriously that trans

people feel about being in the wrong body they're willing to correct it via surgery right and the the new argument is that that the surgery is incidental and that your lived experience, your identity is going to be something that people are always going to have to inquire about and may change three times during the day. And this is just not, it's not efficient. Let's talk about efficiency. It's not efficient.

I mean, if you go out to a restaurant, you're supposed to go, here are my pronouns, here are his pronouns. And then the waiter's supposed to go like, here are my pronouns. And it's like, hey, guys, who gives a fuck? What are the specials? Like, there's nothing efficient about this. And we can't honor and respect every human being's need to feel good at every moment of the day.

Being uncomfortable and feeling weird is where people grow and you're just going to have to grow unfortunately it's not an efficient society to just make sure that you're never offended you're never misgendered well if you're a man and you do a good job of looking like a woman people are going to call you she and if you are a woman and you do a great like i i will call caitlin jenner she i'll call her governor i'm supporting her to be the governor i think she's the best option and i'm unironically well i think she's probably good she has some good points she has great police she has some good points about traffic and homelessness you need you need a conservative trans person in that state it's

not a bad idea it's not a bad idea. It's not a bad idea. And I'll start listening to non-binary people when I see non-binary conservatives. See, I know trans people are real because there are trans conservatives. Right. But if there's no non-binary conservatives, I'm waiting for somebody to say,

I am they, them, and I love my guns, and I love the cops. And then I go, oh, this is totally legit because I get it. It's a vast spectrum of humanity. But as a comedian, we're supposed to call all this stuff out. I'm supposed to call it out because it is absurd. But if you do call it out, then all of a sudden you have a better path to it because you're gay.

They don't care anymore. They don't care anymore. No, not when you look like me. It shifted over. Yeah. No, it shifted. Gay men, gay women. First of all, lesbians now barely exist.

Literally, there's nine lesbian bars left in America. What? Because everybody's going, I'm going to just be non-binary. Now, of course, lesbians didn't do a great job with their bars. Let's be very honest. But nine is wild. Is that a number? It's a number. There are nine lesbian bars left in America. What?

It's crazy. How's that possible? Because lesbians are disappearing. They're just disappearing. Where are they going? They're becoming non-binary. Is that real? Yeah! This is what's happening. What about lesbian communities? They're all older people. A lot of young people are becoming non-binary.

People really are. This is something that is happening. And I'm not saying everybody has to feel like a man or a woman, but I get it. I feel feminine sometimes. I feel masculine sometimes. I think every human being on earth does. I don't know why there needs to be a classification

just because you're experiencing a full range of emotions. Well, it's in vogue. It's in vogue. That is part, and nobody wants to admit that. Nobody wants to admit that that's part of the appeal of what's going on. It's actually fashionable. Have you seen that video? Did I ever play you that video where the girl comes out to her friends in a park?

She goes, I have an announcement. Yes. I'm a guy. Yes. And everyone's like, amazing. I love you. My name's Theo. I go by he, announcement. Yes. I'm a guy. Yes. And everyone's like, amazing. I love you. My name's Theo. Yeah. I go by he, they.

Yeah. First of all, how can you go by he, they? And why is your name Theo? Because she likes Theo Vaughn. Ugh. Come on. I love Theo Vaughn too, but like, I just think, it's just strange. And I'm getting older.

I'm only 36, but I look at all this stuff and I go, it's, you know, I'm going to eventually live in the woods. Yes. I do now, but eventually- Yes. I said, eventually, this is where you end up. You end up just somewhere sitting on, like get off my lawn, shaking your fist because you go, I just don't get it. Well, it's going to get worse.

Yeah. That's the thing. I imagine. I am concerned. I called three realtors. I'm going to have an apartment in LA. I'm going to keep my house here, but I'm going to get an apartment there to kind of like, you know, I want to have a presence there too.

And three realtors I called. These are real estate agents. Their job is to like tell me to like buy a house or rent something. They were all like, yeah, it's bad. Really? The real estate agents were like, yeah, it's bad. They go, I've got to be very honest with you. They go, it's very bad.

In what way? They said that the violence has gone up. Crime has gone up. Now everybody kind of has a story about somebody that's been, you know, somebody got followed to their car. You know, somebody got robbed. There was an incident of violence. Somebody exposed himself to somebody.

Like, these things are all increasing. These numbers are going up. There's a lot of mental illness, drug addiction in a lot of the unhoused populations of people. And unfortunately, that is creating a dangerous environment for a lot of people. And nobody wants to talk about that. And people want to say that it's like, you know, whatever it is, it's hateful. And listen listen nobody wants homeless nobody wants people to be on the street and insane but there are a percentage of those

people i'm sure the vast majority of them are peaceful but a person but maybe not but a percentage of them are you know engaging in criminal acts that are making other people unsafe and all of the homicide rates in major cities have gone up in an unprecedented way. And the people that are victims of that are living in these cities. They're poor people. They take public transportation. They're vulnerable. They're elderly.

And no one cares. And if you call that out, they're like, yo, fuck you, Rush Limbaugh, whatever. I'm like, hey, guys, it is what it is. These are facts, and the reality is that people that are paying the price for those are people that are not you. I saw a tweet the other day. It's a hilarious tweet where this woman was comparing crime rates in the 1980s to what's happening in New York today and how much lower the crime rate is now, even though it's up by more than 100% of last year.

Not comparing that. Let's go back to 1980. Yeah, because let's go back to when the gangs of New York, you know, when it was like the five points. Yeah, people were like stabbing each other. Let's go back to when people were getting thrown out of saloon windows. Listen, and you sound like a loser complaining about it, right?

Because there's this whole thing in New York where people are like, New York's gritty. It's back. New York is back. And these are people who I know personally, many of them live off their wives. And a lot of them are escaping the suburbs. And they're going, New York's back. How do they live off their wives?

Their wives earn money and they pretend to do stand-up comedy. Oh, those fucks. It's a great gig. How many of those guys are out there? Millions. A substantial population of people. Is that a real thing. It's a great gig. How many of those guys are out there? Millions. A substantial population of people. Is that a real thing? It's a huge thing.

Guys live off their wives? Women make horrible decisions with who they choose to spend their lives with. And as somebody who has nothing to do with women in a sexual way, I've just noticed that. You can objectively observe. I've looked at a woman and went,

what are you doing? And it's just the guys, like, hey man, I've been doing this 11 years, but next year's the year. And they go, okay, I'll just work eight hours a day and you just get high, play video games and tweet. And it's rough. And those are the people that are like, all cops are bastards and bill. And I'm like, yeah, okay, great. That helps. Well, they also, they tune into the zeitgeist, right?

So they find out what is the. They're just saying whatever they have to say. What's the thing. What do I have to say to get a job? What's the phrase of the day to get people to think that I'm woke? Yeah. How do I get a job on NBC's new series, you know, That Bitch Bad on Peacock? It's streaming on Peacock, and I want to write on it,

and I just want to go to these parties and take Adderall in Silver Lake, Los Angeles. So what do I have to say? I don't care what it is. I'll just say it. This is what I was going to say earlier. I am legitimately worried that a part of what's going on online is being facilitated by foreign entities and that they're manipulating people psychologically

by pushing the envelope of this crazy shit. Because the thing is, if you get enough people to push in a certain direction, a lot of these people that we're talking about legitimately are insane. Right. And they will back up some new... Look, I was looking at a guy who I know

is a fucking professor who was saying that if you have sex with a 13 year old If that 13 year old consents and enjoys it who's a criminal? What are you supposed to do about this? I was somebody sent me this and I was like this is the guy used to be on my he'd been on my podcast Yeah, and I'm watching this argument. I'm like this is patently insane Yeah, talking about a grown adult a 40 year old having-old having sex with a 13-year-old? Yeah. A baby.

It's crazy. It's fucking nuts. It's absurd. But these kind of ideas get promoted and pushed. And it gets to the point where people start accepting this as something that you should accept. Right. And they start pushing it. Right.

And you've got to go, where is this fucking coming from? Is this coming from a legitimate delusional person that doesn't understand how human psychology is? Or a person who is just a contrarian that whenever something is taboo in society, they're going to go, well, why? Why is it bad to kill old people? Wouldn't it be better? You'd rather have them suffer or just put a bullet in their head while they're sleeping. You start seeing how someone could make really crazy fucking arguments for things and you start wondering how many of these people that are pushing these crazy arguments

actually believe it and how much of it, because we know it's a certain percentage. We know for a fact from Renee DiResta's work with the Internet Research Agency where she's gone over these Russian troll accounts in Russia, where they literally, they have a farm where there's a fucking place, a building, where people are hired to fuck with people. They're hired. They organized a Texas separatist

convention across the street from a pro-Muslim convention just to facilitate a fight. And they're doing this on purpose. So they're manipulating and they see this trend. They see this trend of civil unrest, chaos in society, and there is no gender,

and there's no... I guarantee you, some of what's moving this stuff along is manipulation. I bet it is, and I bet it's easier than they thought. I bet if there are those, I'm sure there are those Russian troll farms, and there's Chinese troll farms, they're like, this is shockingly easy. I bet everyone there are those, I'm sure there are those Russian troll farms and there's Chinese troll farms, they're like, this is shockingly easy.

I bet everyone takes lunch early. I bet they throw out two tweets. They're like, we got to really stay on them. We got to stay on them. They go to their supervisor. They go, you're not going to believe this. We worked for five minutes and they've taken it the rest of the way because there's a lot of mentally unwell people here in this country.

There's a lot of people that are psychotic I mean I have ants every day on their Facebook that are telling you that Trump is still the president still has the nuclear codes and they're on Facebook assuring their Facebook feed don't worry about it Trump still has a nuclear cause and they're doing that in between sharing recipes for like you know peach melba it's we're we're we're a little wack. What was the thing that you tweeted the other day? This is the QAnon of the left. It was the guy that was, there's a guy that's like,

I'm in a restaurant, no one has a mask, and I am sick. He goes like, I am scared and I feel like, and it's just this crazy, insane fucking thing where you go, dude, we're a year and a half in. Large number of people are vaccinated. A large number of people have had it already. What are we, what are you doing?

And it's the QAnon of liberals. They want, they need it. Panic porn. They need it. They want it because it allows them to be morally upright and superior. And it's fake. So it doesn't matter. Like putting a mask on doesn't mean you're a good person.

It's like, great. Okay, you were considerate, which was great. It's the lowest level. I've always said this. I'm like, go to any of these people. You want to volunteer at a soup kitchen, they'll stare at you like you're crazy. They've never been to a shelter in their life.

They've never laid... Like back in the day, to be a good person, crazy they've never been to a shelter in their life right they've never ladled like back in the day to be a good person you had to like go to a shelter and like like ladle pea soup in a bowl and hand it to somebody and you had to volunteer you had to be a big brother big sister and like instead of kids going home you now it's like the least you can do it's just like you're just sitting in a restaurant, which is probably an expensive restaurant in Los Angeles. And the guy's looking around. Like the first time I went to L.A. to have meetings after I did the Montreal Comedy Festival, a woman pulled up in a white Bentley. We were sitting outside. We both ordered Eggs Benedict.

She said, I'll have Eggs Benedict. She goes, avo on the side. And then she goes like this to me. She goes, you know, I never knew what it was like to live in fascism and now I do and then she went on this whole thing about how uh she we're living in a fascist country because Trump had been elected and she pulled up at a Bentley and she was and we're sitting in this beautiful area of Los Angeles the sun's out everybody's eating like great food and and in mind, this was her like struggle session. Like this was her thing. And that's, I think something broke when Trump won something broke

and I don't know what it is. And it might take years later to find out what it is, but I think just the idea that he could win fucked people up. Well, it was a combination of events, right? There's Trump winning the chaos involved and all the people that were convinced that Trump was somehow another going to lose right and that any one right and then they couldn't believe that he was the president and then They thought he was gonna go to jail What's that fucking crazy guy with the glasses that was always ranting and raving from a basement on GQ? That guy yeah fucking lunatic

He was out of his mind still is out of his fucking mind and ranting and raving like it's imminent he's going to jail any moment now and he was doing this like

this fake like what's that guy's name Murrow Edward Murrow he's doing like a version of that right

and so everybody was like frothing at the mouth yeah then we get to the end of Trump's reign. Yeah, nothing happened. Nothing happens, but then the Capitol Hill attack. And then those people on the other side are at it.

Their minds going like, he's still the president. Well, I've been reading things about the Capitol Hill attack that have been fascinating. Really? There's a lot of people that believe that informants, and not just informants, but people working for the government, were a part of the manipulation of the Capitol Hill attack the same way. You know the story? We talked about it before recently in the podcast

about there was a 19-year-old kind of dumb kid who the FBI tricked this kid into thinking that he had a bomb and detonating this bomb. They talked him into it. They made him an extremist. They gave him the bomb, gave him a cell phone to detonate this bomb. They talked him into it. Right. They made him an extremist. They do it all the time. They gave him the bomb, gave him a cell phone to detonate the bomb.

He tries to detonate the bomb and then the FBI arrests him and he's in jail for fucking the rest of his life or whatever. But they manipulated him and got him to the point where he acted. And there's people that are saying that there's some people that believe,

and I've got to be careful at how I say this because I don't know what's real and what's not. No, let's get a good clip. Just speak. Let's do numbers. There are people that believe that there was some manipulation involved in some of these extremist groups. There are always pro-Trump extremist groups and that they talk these people into attacking

the Capitol Hill building. Now, here's where it gets weird. Have you ever seen the videos of cops opening up the gates? That is very strange. And letting people through? I have. Where's the explanation to what the fuck is going on there? That I don't know.

I've heard that. Let's look at that. Let's look at the videos because they're fucking nuts. Well, listen, this is the whole Boston Marathon bombing where the FBI knew who these guys were. They had maybe recruited them as informants. Russian intelligence came out and said, you know exactly who these people are. They were allowed to travel to Dagestan and back all the time. I believe that the FBI had, when they had a trial, they put special administrative measures on the trial, meaning that you didn't hear one peep out of that trial.

The cameras weren't allowed in the court. It was a very closed proceeding. And now the one guy that's alive is locked up in Florence ADX Colorado prison and no one can speak to him or get to him. So it clearly, every movement from COINTELPRO to anything, I mean, Oklahoma City bombing, people say that like, you know, McVeigh was part of a group that they were surveying and they had informants and they were trying to recruit people and a lot of times these things go wrong organically or The other thing is do they go wrong because they're allowed to go wrong or encouraged to go wrong Well, this was the Alex Jones take that they allowed it to go wrong so that they can install new laws

And that they can institute new laws to survey people. Yeah Trump Trump's speech was very like incendiary. He was very much like, they're doing it in there. He's pointing at the Capitol. No doubt. They're doing it in there. Pence is doing it in there. Did he say Pence was doing it? Yeah.

I mean, if you break down his speech, you look at it. And he was talking. It was all present tense. It wasn't like, it's done. It's over. It was like, it's happening now. You know? So watch this.

The police opened the fucking gates. Look at this. So here's the cops. Look's over. It was like, it's happening now. So watch this. The police opened the fucking gates. Look at this. So here's the cops. Look at the cops are literally opening the gates and stepping aside. And look at this fucking hoodlum is calling these people through. So this is literally insanity.

It's insane. And the cops were taking selfies with some of these people. So I think some of these people were like MAGA cops, right? So they thought it was a good idea that these people were attacking the Capitol building. They were just having a little fun. Yeah. The fact that a guy thought he could walk through with a fucking Confederate flag. Who was the guy with the-

Look at that guy. Yeah. I mean, the guy with the horns and the hat, Jake Angeli. Yeah. And he should be. I mean, he with the horns and the hat Jake Angeli and he should be I mean he charged into the Capitol but it was very cartoonish it looked like a high school theater group that had lost their minds

well it's a bunch of kids living in their parents house yeah well it's old people these are like old people that guy with the hat yeah it was living in his parents house it was the natural he's a loser I'm sure that they absolutely had people in there.

I think when you look at a lot of far alt-right figures that just disappear, a lot of those guys are probably feds. There's probably feds in Antifa. I'm sure there are because if they're not, they're not doing their job. They have to be there and they have to monitor these groups and they have to get information. Well, I bet they also manipulate them and get them to do wild shit so they can arrest them. And it delegitimizes any of, you know, there was a great argument about the hippie movement in America. The hippie movement in America,

the Vietnam War, opposition to the Vietnam War, started with the Catholic Church. It started with very, you know, it started with priests. It started with people that were saying, we're against, we're nonviolent, we don't think we should do this, it's not our fight. And then it became drenched in psychedelic drugs. It became about free love.

And if you look at who's pushing all of that, it is a lot of these interesting cults and groups that have real ties to U.S. intelligence. And that's a fact. And it doesn't mean that it wouldn't have happened anyway. Maybe they sped it up maybe they accelerated it but you're looking at you know the CIA working with Timothy Leary you're looking at a lot of those weird cults and stuff having some

relationship with intelligence and if you look at like especially California and Laurel Canyon in that area it is very very strange that book you had that guy on your show. Tom O'Neill. Yeah, Tom O'Neill. An incredible book. And I brought it up the other day with Quentin Tarantino, and Tarantino had read it as well.

Yeah. Did he say he read it after he wrote the script? I think he said he talked to him for sure. Yeah. I think it was after, though. Yeah. I think after he really did the deep dive and found out how fucking crazy the whole CIA experiments with LSD are. Oh, yeah.

To the point where my wife's mom was a hippie in Haight-Ashbury back in the Dizzee. And now if you met her, she's like super nice grandma lady you would never imagine. Right. But back in the day, she used to go to the Haight-Ashbury Free Clinic, which was literally run by the CIA. And that's where Manson and all those guys were getting acid from. Right. And then right after Tom O'Neill's book comes out, the fucking Haight-Ashbury Free Clinic had been around for decades. Right.

After Tom O'Neill's book, a couple months later, gone. They shut it down. It's crazy. It was a part of Operation Midnight Climax. Yes. All those people dosing people with acid. Well, that's the whole thing. And then if you look at Operation Mockingbird, how far the CIA is entrenched into the media

and how far all the media narratives are being sculpted by a lot of the U.S. intelligence people and then a lot of the social movements that we think are just organic grassroots movements are either started, encouraged, or co-opted by... So everything's possible. Anything is possible. It is that nuts. Absolutely anything is possible. When you saw the riots in LA

and you saw these teams of people burning cars... The recent riots? The George Floyd? The George Floyd riots, but there were teams of really skilled people going in there, and there were cop cars that were abandoned. Why are there cop cars abandoned?

Who's abandoning a cop car in the middle of the street before the right? Weird things happen where you start seeing yourself like, I think the idea that chaos makes people more compliant and makes people go, hey, whatever new laws you guys need to pass, do it. How about the pallets of rocks and bricks that were left around? Crazy. That's real shit. It's crazy.

People say, oh, this is a baseless conspiracy theory. There were actual construction jobs going out of time. Listen, nonsense. Take it from someone who's worked in construction. They don't just pull fucking pallets of bricks and leave them laying around where they know there's going to be riots. It's an absolute possibility that no matter what, if there is a threat to the mainstream, if there is a threat to the system, making those people as extreme as humanly possible, and a lot of them are, but making

them seem really crazy and really violent delegitimizes all of their good points. Yeah. And what it allows is it allows people to then dismiss anything that comes from that group. Exactly. Or that, you know, whatever, that base of ideas. Did anybody ever do an investigation on the plates of the pallets of bricks, like a legitimate independent organization, do an investigation to figure

out what the fuck was going on. Because so many people that were showing up at these protests and even where there were no construction sites would find these pallets of bricks. Pallets of bricks. Like what in the fuck? People, it's crazy. And then you start thinking about, you're like, oh my God, is anything real? Or are we just living in a video game that people are arranging pretty much everything?

We're looking at all these events and we're thinking they're all organic and what they allow us to do is no matter what the events Are whether it's antifa or whether it's a capital right? We just go well the other side is nuts But what if it's really just a group of people? Kind of really helping curate this division so that they can remain in power and fuck kids on Epstein's Island. That's the most insidious possibility, right? That is the most insidious possibility. That's crazy.

Things have gotten to the point where, you know, Antifa now, because you can get in trouble for carrying weapons. Now they carry frying pans. They're hitting people over the head with frying pans. They're saying, well, we're on our way to go cook. And so they have cast iron frying pans. Hilarious. They're heavy.

It's a great weapon. It's a great weapon. Especially if there's a, what is it called? There's one company in New York. That makes them. That makes a great one because it makes a really long cast iron handle. Okay. So you could grab it even when it's hot. I it makes a really long cast iron handle. Okay. So you could grab it even when it's hot.

I have it. My friend got me that. Yeah. Oh, okay. And we make every steak or burger on that. Yeah. They're great. And pork chops, everything.

Yeah. Everything's good. I found out about it from Bourdain because Bourdain had this video that he was doing, this video series he was doing on YouTube where he would go to visit people that were making things. And there was a place in Brooklyn and they basically take like brake rotors which are cast-iron brake rotors and they would melt these old rotors down and turn them into frying pans Wow so they had a whole you know

what it was what are those things called a furnace Bert what is it called uh when they do that with when they're making knives and shit, they're cast Casting them and you know fucks that called It's like a kiln, but there's another word for it when they're doing it with metal small small tears I think it was forged forging so they're like the company's something forged and they make these really cool Frying pans with a nice long handle you can really bash a fascist over the head with it. I love the idea that this company is going, we're doing great business in Seattle.

They go, we're killing it in Portland. We had no idea. Everybody loves cooking. It's very strange when you start zooming out and you start going, what do we know? And what is real and what isn't real? And we know so many crazy people. That's why everything's believable. Because

we know so many fucking lunatics that we go, listen, people are just crazy. But that being said, the powers that be know they're crazy. And you can easily steer them to do anything. And sometimes they don't even need to be steered. They're just there. Well, the idea that we've stopped manipulating the

population is ridiculous. Why would they do that? Why would they stop it? They did it through the 60s. They did it through the 70s. I love that Pentagon just came out and they were like, ISIS is still a threat. Everyone's like, shut up. Shut the fuck up. Enough. People are like, no, they're like, no, no, no. They're still a threat. They go, not only is it not a threat,

but you guys can't come back four years later. It's an old bit. It's like a comic doing an old bit. That was on your special three years ago. You're doing ISIS? You're closing with ISIS? You can't do it.

And again, I think it's just people need to be controlled. And they'll do it through tech. Which is why it's fucked up what happened to the Weinsteins, who are, I don't know if you know this, massive fans of yours, truly. Weinsteins. Is it Weinsteins?

Yeah. Weinstein is Harvey. Weinstein is Eric and Brett. They're not related? No. Kidding. Clip that. Anyway, I think it was so fucked up that they were demonetized.

I think it's crazy, and I think that's really what they're going to do. They're going to make it not profitable to go against the grain. Yes. And then once it's not profitable, less people do it. Exactly. And then they've won. Well, demonetizing was something that troubled me on

YouTube in particular because it's a form of self-censorship. You find out, like they would demonetize a certain percentage of our videos and you would find out about it like Jamie would go they demonetize that video we'd be like why I could do all you talked about the election or all you talked about we didn't say anything bad crazy it was it was nuts it was like there's certain subjects where you couldn't touch and if you touch them automatically you're and then you'd have to appeal.

And sometimes you'd win the appeal and sometimes you didn't. Here's when we found out that it was all horseshit. As soon as we switched over to Spotify. Because when we switched over to Spotify, magically, all of our videos were available for monetization. So for the three months that we were on YouTube and Spotify, where it was on both, they let us monetize everything because they wanted to make the money off of it. They're like, look, he's leaving. Right. He's going to go to Spotify.

So it was based in nothing. Well, it's based in arbitrary decision making by a bunch of people that work there. So it's incredibly subjective. Right. So you decide, you know, it's a fucking Tim Dillon guy and his Meghan McCain impression, fuck him. Right. Demonetize.

Left the view, by the way. She left the view. Well, she's free to be on your show now. We wish her well. Imagine you as her on your show interviewing her. I would love to interview her as her, but I think there's such a-

Small chance? Small chance. So you're saying there's a chance. That that's going to happen. Yes, there is a chance, but it's not big. What if I helped her? What if I was there? What if I was there as a moderator? You want

to organize it, I'll show up. I would do it. I absolutely will show up. How about you and her together on this show? Well, I don't think I should do it the whole time, but I think it would be fun to interview her for five minutes and then say, hey, Megan, I get it. I also hate Joy Behar, so I don't love you, but I also hate that squawking bird. So,

I hate the whole thing. And frankly, that show, you want to talk about a show that set women back, is The View. You want to talk about that show, if the CIA is engineering, you know, Antifa and fucking the Capitol riot, some crazy misogynist engineered The View.

Because there's nothing worse than The View. In terms of like like there are so many brilliant women out there None of them are on the view None of them have gone near the set of the view. I mean they have brought in the lowest tier of What is it the Y chromosome? No double X. They brought in the lowest of the double X's for that one. It's rough Yeah, did you watch the episode when Tulsi Gabbard got on to defend herself and Joy Behar starts Double X. They brought in the lowest of the double Xs for that one. It's rough. Yeah. Did you watch the episode where Tulsi Gabbard got on to defend herself and Joy Behar starts panicking, going over her notes while Tulsi is refuting everything that she said?

Yeah. I mean, Joy Behar, again, these people have dementia. These are people who should not be allowed out of the house. They have a national platform. I mean, it is crazy. They have no idea. These people have never read like a book. And there's versions of it. Yes. Then the other one with Sharon

Osbourne. Yeah. Where would it Sharon, she said something racially insensitive? I think she said that she doesn't like I don't I think she said, why is Pierce Morgan racist? I don't even think it was that bad. She's friends with Pierce Morgan, right? Yeah.

The thing that makes me pause is Cheryl Underwood is cool as fuck. I know Cheryl Underwood. Yeah, I don't know any of them. She's cool as fuck. I know her forever. I did Montreal Comedy Festival with her back in the day. She's fucking hilarious. You ever seen her stand up? I know that she's great because I know people that know her, but I know her.

She murders. Yeah. She goes on stage with her purse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's really funny. Yeah, she goes on stage with her purse. Yeah Yeah, she's fun really funny. Yeah, really funny and cool as fuck so if she doesn't like her I gotta go You know what I mean, yeah, there's probably something there. There's probably something there I don't know But I remember when she was making fun of the guy who got his dick chopped off and the wife threw it in the blender

Right or he threw it in the garbage disposal and she was laughing about what it must have looked like. Is it a wee rolling around inside the media? No one wants that. She's not anybody's choice. But that's a crazy thing to laugh at. A guy getting his dick chopped off and someone, like he's getting mutilated. His humanity

is taken from him. His manhood is literally getting ground up and she thought it was funny. But again, people think things are funny because they don't think about the person they're making fun of. You and I are both guilty of doing that. Of course. As comics. Absolutely. But that one was particularly rough.

You're like, wow. Well, we started with you and then they have all these ones. They're like, the talk. Yeah. That's profitable. And then everyone gets C-list and then D-list And then they're like resurrecting sitcom stars from the 80s And they're like what do you think about Palestine It's like what are we doing here

We don't need any of these people's opinions Yeah it's a fucking weird thing man Like Sherri Shepherd she used to be on The View as well She's really nice too she was always at the store She's always cool as fuck I'm sure they're all nice She was really nice Sherri Shepherd She's really nice too. She was at the store. She's always cool as fuck. I'm sure they're all nice She was really nice. Sherry Shepherd is a really nice lady, and she's also like super religious like she's yeah God fear and Christian woman like full stop. Yeah, I just I can I suggest it think for the view

This is a suggestion. I have men No chance. Just men on the show. But women watch it. See, that's the thing. It's like, it's a lot of it is women that are home, right, during that time. It airs during the day. What if we put the women in the audience and let the men discuss the issues? This is just an idea I have for ABC, corporate.

Well, clearly the view- Or have one woman serve everyone drinks and give her a quick opinion. Quick. In and out. Just go like... She walks in, she goes, yeah, Israel seems like it. She goes, thanks. And then they keep going. I think that's a happy medium. Why doesn't The View have any trans

women on it? Great point. It has a lot of women that look trans, but none of them... It has a lot of second that look trans, but none of them... It has a lot of second and third takes. After a drink, you'd go, huh? But it doesn't have a ton of... Yeah. It's zero. I agree.

It should be all trans women. Imagine. The best era of the view, and I've talked about it before, was when Rosie O'Donnell was talking about Building 7. Yeah. That was the best. That I watched. That was back in the day.

That was back in the day. Here's a good example Here's a good example why the the discussion about building seven and the collapse is not valid it is It's so valid, but here's why here's why this building in Miami that just collapsed yes It collapsed the exact same way no it didn't half of it's still there right think seven came down the part that came down Came down the exact same way come down like a controlled demolition But it didn't all come down right because the whole thing wasn down, came down the exact same way. Came down like a controlled demolition. But it didn't all come down. Right, because the whole thing wasn't on fire from the basement with giant diesel tanks.

Yeah. Like Building 7. But it was built in a very fucked up way. I think we're going to find out how fucked up it was built. Building 7, to believe that, we'd have to believe that Building 7 was like done on the cheap. Building 7 was like this massive building that really didn't have any structural problems. It was on fire for a few hours, and then it fell entirely. Yeah, but it fell slowly.

Do you know the middle of it fell first? There's a guy that had a great YouTube video, and I'd love to talk to you about this. I'm excited we're talking about this. Yeah. There's a guy who had a great YouTube video, and he was a full-on 9-11 truther. Yes. But then he did a deeper dive into understanding what was going on during the fire and how the thing collapsed.

And the videos that you would watch where it showed the whole thing collapse at free fall speeds, he was like, what they didn't show you is that minutes before that, the center of it had collapsed. Right. So if you watch the roof line, there's like these boxes or these structures, top of the structure. You see that stuff go boom and fall through. So shit was already deteriorating, raging fires from the basement,

which apparently, wasn't there like diesel tanks in the basement? Was that what was going on? And there was like a fucking serious fire. Deteriorated the whole thing. It's lit on fire. All the steel gets weakened. All the concrete gets weakened. All the concrete gets weakened.

It caves in at the top. And then one of the top floors goes, and then the whole thing caves in. Did he do a deep dive into why we left 17 pages out of the 9-11 Commission report that protected Saudi Arabia? Four days after the attack, Bandar, Prince Bandar, was on the balcony of the White House with the President of the United States. 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis. We completely exempted them from any culpability and attacked two countries that had nothing to do with it. Well, that is a real conspiracy. Well, that's fucking crazy.

Yeah, it is fucking crazy. But it doesn't mean that the building was a controlled demolition. I don't know that it... Listen, that building collapsed in a very strange way for a building that was not hit by anything. But it was destroyed. The parts of the building were destroyed.

There was big chunks of the building that were fucked up and there was a raging fire. I understand that. What do you think happened? You think they detonated it? I don't know that we'll ever know. But if you had a guess. Why is Larry Silverstein saying pull it? Yeah, what did that mean?

What did that mean? What did that mean? I don't know. Maybe it means something. I don't know. Yeah, what did that mean? What did that mean? I don't know. Maybe it means something. I don't know. How are they making fun? I can't get service on my phone when I take off. How are you making a phone call at 25,000 feet in the air from a cell phone telling them we love you?

Is that real though? Yeah. But did people really do that? They said. They said they did. But that was the flight that many people believe got shot down. You know that story? Yeah, that's potentially true.

Potentially very true. Because this was one that was heading- There was a few flights. The best documentary is called 9-11, The New Pearl Harbor. It's five hours. It's made by a guy named Massimo Mazzucco. A rainy day in Austin, which we have a few of. I'm telling

you, watch the documentary. I watched it to debunk it. It is very difficult to not come away from it going, hey, at least I don't understand what happened. I don't know why there's not a video of the plane hitting the Pentagon. There's 80 security cameras. There's not one video. There is a video.

There's absolutely not. There's a video of it. Not of a plane hitting the Pentagon. There's a video of something hitting it. It's a fireball. No. I'm telling you. No, no, no. It it. Not of a plane hitting the Pentagon. There's a video of something hitting it. It's a fireball. No. I'm telling you. No, no, no.

It's an object that slams into the Pentagon with one of those shitty, those cameras are shitty. Those security cameras, especially security cameras in 2001, they're really shitty cameras. But you can see this thing hit the Pentagon. What looks like the nose of a plane, it's a fireball. It's hard to tell what it is. It does not look like a 737. But if a 737, whatever it is, is

going 500 miles an hour with a shitty video camera. Show us another angle. They don't have another angle. There's 80 angles. There's 80 cameras. How is there not another angle? Top secret. We're protecting you. Yeah, well thanks. Thanks. The 9-11 Commission reports that this was set up to fail. Oh, here it is.

Here's the plane. Let's see it. That's not a plane. What is it? It's not a plane. Let me see it again. I have no idea what it is. You know it's not a plane.

That is Joe. That's a plane. That is not a plane. It's not a plane? Not a plane. Jamie? I don't know. That's pretty quick.

That's not a plane. What is that? That little thing? Oh, you know what? It's not a plane. That's not a plane. Wait a minute. That's not a plane. It's not a plane. It's just what it is. Hold on a second. It's not a plane. That's not a plane. Wait a minute. That's not a plane.

It's just what it is. Hold on a second. It's not a plane. If it is, well, first of all, how big is a 737? How many people are on that bitch? A lot. Say that again. Play it again, Jamie.

Let me see it again. That's a plane. That's not a plane. No, it's not. Wait a minute. Let's see it again. See it again. Okay.

Right there. What's that? That's a plane. Not a 737. How do you know? I'm telling you. But if that building is as big as I think it is, that might be a plane. First of all.

Jamie, can I get your take on it? What do you think that is? All right. It's a plane size. Jamie's controlled. There's not a lot to look at here, right? That's kind of plane size. Look how far away do you think that explosion is from where the camera is?

Well, listen, you know when you're flying, when you're going into LAX and you're driving down that road and the planes are flying right over your head? Tell me that's not a small size plane. It's not a 747. I know it's flying like 10 feet off the ground. Right, but it's landing. It's coming in to land full clip because it's going to slam into the building. When it hit the building. The building's only like five stories.

Some of the heaviest part of the plane, some of the heaviest part of the plane is the only like five stories some of the heaviest part of the plane Some of the heaviest part of the plane is the wings right? They're the heaviest part of the plane the fuselage the middle of the plane is is relatively less heavy It's where the people are this that the other thing the wings don't really make any impact It just goes in which would make no sense hold on the fuselage your Pepsi can no no Do you know why the wings are heavy? Why because they're filled with fuel. But they should have snapped off. Where are they? But they

blew up in a fire, man. There's chunks of fucking plane all over the lawn. I don't know. I don't know. Just show us a picture. I don't know, but I'm loving this argument. I love these arguments. Here's the deal. The wings, like, the idea that... What do you think, Jamie?

I haven't looked at the Pentagon one in a long time. I do feel like, like the idea that What do you think, Jamie? I haven't looked at the Pentagon one in a long time. I do feel like there were not that bad of security cameras all over the place. There's 80 cameras. Just show us. I will shut my fat mouth and never bring this up again if you just show me

a photo of a video, even a grainy one, of something that's a plane going into the Pentagon. Oh, okay. We'll show you. Show them again, Jamie. This is not a plane.

He wasn't paying attention. Show them again. This is not a plane. What is it? And by the way, this is a doctored video. By the way, if you watch the documentary, you'll realize it's actually a doctored video. How so? They doctored it.

They go frame by frame in the video, and you can see how it's doctored. Really? It looks a lot more like a cruise missile than a plane. I'll find a different one. That looks like a cruise missile that's flying six inches off the ground? It looks weird. It does not look like a plane. I don't know.

It looks like a plane to me. That would be a giant fucking missile. You have Bush and Cheney going, we're going to testify together in front of the 9-11 Commission in a closed-door testimony like an Abbott and Costello act. I mean, these are—they didn't even want to have a 9-11 Commission. Like, we don't even want to investigate it. The president was kept in the air while Cheney and Rumsfeld ran everything from the ground. Well, we knew then that Cheney was pulling the strings and George Bush was basically a puppet.

I don't know what happened. I don't think, like, Cheney and Bush did. I'm saying, isn't it a little weird that the day of 9-11, they were simulating 9-11 happening? There was an operation called Vigilant Guardian simulating an attack on the UN building in New York, causing NORAD to scramble jets. Isn't that a stroke of luck? It is a stroke of luck. That's a real stroke of luck.

Maybe they knew that that was going to happen, and that's why they organized it on that day. I don't know. Maybe that's one of the things that are covering up. But that's a real stroke of luck. Pretty amazing. It's a real stroke of luck. Pretty amazing. It's a real stroke of luck that you're simulating the exact same thing happening. And then Condoleezza Rice goes, we had no idea planes would be hijacked and taken into buildings.

And you go, you were running an exercise the exact day it happened. You know? Of that possibility. Of that possibility. And all the NORAD jets were scrambled. It's very strange. It's just odd. The Flight 93 one to me, that's the one that got shot down, right?

Was that what it was called? Perhaps. The let's roll? Yeah, the let's roll thing. The thing about that that's crazy is that the wreckage was spread out over miles. Right. Which in my eyes would be something that would indicate something that got hit in the air. Right.

Going 500 miles an hour, the wreckage would spread out over miles. Whereas if something crashes into the ground, what the fuck is going to make the wreckage go miles? I have no idea. That doesn't make any sense. And I know for a fact that in situations like that, they are instructed to shoot planes down. Right.

If they know that a plane is going to crash into the White House, they're going to shoot that plane out of the sky, even if it's filled with civilians, because those civilians are doomed anyway. Right. If they know that a plane is going to crash into the White House, they're going to shoot that plane out of the sky even if it's filled with civilians because those civilians are doomed anyway. Right. They're casualties no matter what you do. If the plane has been hijacked and it's going to fly right into the President's house, they're going to shoot that plane down. Of course.

And there was eyewitness accounts, whatever the fuck that means. The problem with eyewitness accounts is they're always fucked. you know eyewitness accounts are some of the worst and most unreliable things you could go of course sometimes yes but sometimes you can get an eyewitness account from someone who's like a legitimate conscious person and maybe a person that's been to war person knows how to handle trauma right and knows how to handle stress and they can give you an accurate assessment of what happened that being said i just think if you look at that day there's a lot we don't know i don't know what that ends up meaning i don't know if it means that the people that did this were trained saudi agents maybe and they were

not just random terrorists that couldn't fly and were drunk and you know they pulled off something quite spectacular nothing even close to it has ever happened again anywhere um i think if you look at that day there's a lot about that day that we still don't understand i don't know i don't know what happened or how it happened um but the 9-11 commission said this is set up to fail we don't have any of the resources we need phil graham or bob graham who's a senator from florida kept don't have any of the resources we need. Phil Graham, or Bob Graham, who's a senator from Florida, kept getting, he goes, the Saudi connection, man, there's something more here. And he kept burrowing into it. And the FBI was like threatening, they took him off his plane. They were like, you can't do this. Like, there were people trying to figure out more. And, you know, the people just shut it down. So there's something that we don't know and I don't know what it is.

It is possible that what was being exposed by the investigation that they were trying to suppress was that they are balls deep involved in the Saudi government. The Saudi government is involved in our government. The amount of money that's being exchanged when you're talking about oil and... Look what happened with Jamal Khashoggi. Yes what happened when that guy got murdered they literally have done nothing nothing They're done nothing in fact people were attending What how do you say what is his initials JK no the other guys MBS they were having something that he did just like a couple of years later There was yeah, they don't care. No, it's the documentary The Dissident.

Have you seen it? No. Brian Fogel's documentary? It's a good one. It's brilliant. It's brilliant. It's terrifying. It's terrifying because, I mean, they fucking killed this guy because he was criticizing the government.

It was real clear. A guy who was a journalist from the Washington Post, they organized killing him in the Turkish consulate and they did it They pulled it off, right? It's wild. It is crazy. But I mean it's these are things you almost you like you go Hey, I'm never gonna know the truth. I'll die without knowing the truth Yeah, we're never gonna know it just seems fishy the amount of money involved in oil It was explained to me by someone who said, and this was someone who is an incredibly wealthy person. He said, when you think about rich people, you think about rich people that are publicly rich. And he goes, Jeff Bezos is the most publicly rich person.

Right. He goes, but the royal family in these Saudi Arabia, in these oil rich countries in the Middle East, they have trillions of dollars. In private wealth. They have crazy money that they don't have to report. Yeah. They're monarchs. Right. Yeah.

You don't know how much money they have. No, and the extraction of natural resources is still really at the top of the food chain in terms of money. Oh, yeah. It's huge. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I remember I was reading this story about, it was a documentary. Well, it was a bunch of things, story and documentary as well, about the Sultan of Brunei and how he used to rock it. And what the Sultan of Brunei used to do was he would get girls from TV shows, from movies, and he would say, you know, I want to fuck her. Have her come visit me and I'll give her, you know, like fucking 10 million bucks or something crazy like that. And girls would fly over there and fuck this guy. Wow. And he had a disco in his palace because he was beyond wealthy.

Insane. He's beyond wealthy in this extraordinary way that we could never really possibly understand. And he had this full on super fucking disco in his house and he would just fucking Stroll downstairs gold underwear and and go you you you let's go. It's the amazing girls who just hanging out It's an amazing experience to have in life when you look at like the vastly different Experiences people have in life to be that guy is truly amazing Well, there's only one kill you. You can kill anyone you want, fuck anyone you want. Yeah.

You know? And you, like, look at MBS. Does it, allegedly. There's very little repercussions. Oh, there's none. I mean, people got fired. There was a big hubbub. There was a lot of talk about it.

Probably got in a real uncomfortable form for a little while. But there's no talk about him being arrested. There's no talk about seals invading his mansion and pulling him out of the castle. No. None of that's going to happen. No, it's not going to happen. Yeah. I think I forgot who did.

Maybe it was Gabriel Iglesias. Somebody did like a private show for one of those families. Really? It was interesting. Was it Russell Peters? It might have been Russell Peters. I forget who it was. It was somebody did a private show

from one of those families and they said it was one of the most wild things they ever did. Yeah? And it was just like in a gold palace and there was like not a ton of audience and everyone like, you know, the king sitting there like laughing

and like everyone's looking at the king like, yes, this is good. We're having fun. This is fun. You know who Yeonmi Park is? No. Is that how how I say her name you own me. I think that's her name She's a defector from North Korea. She was on Lex Friedman's podcast. She's gonna be on this one, too and He was talking to her about what it was like

Growing up in North Korea and the experience of North Korea, and it's fucking Terrifying it's fucking terrifying it's tough they have no internet they have no power and they she was talking about when she was young she truly loved the royal family let's love them and their history doesn't go back to Jesus like their calendar doesn't go back their calendar goes to Kim jong-un's birth right well that's what Christopher Hitchens said when he wrote this great article called fat man and little boy about he said the most depressing thing about North Korea is that the people actually like love the family that runs it. He goes in all these other, you know, kleptocracies and third world countries, people will sneak out a little joke in a cafe. They know they're being fucked over in North Korea. He said the vigilance of which people really supported and thought they were living in this paradise, he said, was the most disturbing thing about it.

Like they had destroyed people's psyche and just sense of reality to a degree that it was like, you know, he'd been all over the world. He said that was really disturbing. In the beginning of Lex Friedman's podcast, whether he explains what happened with North Korea and how during the 90s they had this massive famine where an undisclosed number of people died from starvation It may be hundreds of thousands and maybe millions. They don't really know but many people resorted to cannibalism including Cannibalizing their own children because the thought was if they died Other people are gonna eat their children. So they ate their own children. That is a negative their children so they ate their own children that is a negative governmental strategy you know that is like as bad as it gets as bad as it gets as bad as it gets it happened with Stalin too and that's one of the connections that he had to it because his grandmother survived what

Stalin did um in what year was that so the 40s when what happened with with Stalin and Ukraine he loves Putin though Lex Friedman well he's interested he likes what Putin stands for and he doesn't think I think his precision his position is you know I don't want to speak for him so let me just say generally I think all this shit whether it's the way the United States government handles things where they they pretend that Joe Biden's running the world, all of it's bullshit. At least with Putin, it's transparent. It's not good that Putin poisons his rivals and has people assassinated. That's the thing.

No criticism of Putin ever comes with a co-sign of what we've done because we've done horrible things. Well, like you do have to look at what Putin does and you go, he's clearly poisoning all of his enemies. There's something going on. Something's going on and it's not good. Or people love him so much they're doing the dirty work for him. That's not happening.

It's he's, you, why leave it to chance? And so I just think you have to, you know, listen, I get it. But like, you know, Lex, I was texting with him the other day and he goes, they have integrity. I said, I don't have integrity, man. The guy wants absolute power and he just wants to kill everyone that gets in his way. I don't know if that's integrity. Have you seen that mansion that he's having built? It's beautiful.

It's insane. It's beautiful. It's this enormous compound. Is it in Austin? No. I'm kidding. That's Elon's house. beautiful. It's this enormous compound. Is it in Austin? No. I'm kidding. No. That's Elon's house.

Yeah. Is he going to be in Austin? Elon lives in a tiny house. Oh, interesting. That's what I read. I haven't asked him. Interesting. Yeah.

He sent me a text the other day and I was going to ask him about that, but I said no. Putin is worth what? A trillion dollars? They don't know. They don't know how much. No one has any idea. Because it's all bullshit. Because it's like he's got complete control over what gets reported. It's all Bitcoin?

No. It's all Dogecoin. Right, right. There's a mini Doge now. Are you in crypto heavy? No, not at all. Not at all? No.

Interesting. I think it's a Ponzi scheme. I own a Bitcoin. I was paid a Bitcoin to do the Bitcoin conference. I was given some Bitcoin and I cashed it all in for Fight for the Forgotten. Oh, good. The charity. The charity, yeah.

Okay. Well, that's good. I have one Bitcoin and five Ethereum. So I'm just on the train. We'll see where it goes. What's more valuable? Bitcoin? Bitcoin is clearly more valuable, yeah.

What is that worth now? 35, Jamie? About 35,000. So it always gets up pretty high and then people are like, get out now. And then they sell it or Elon tweets something and then people sell and it crashes. What I think it's going to be is, it's clearly a speculative asset where it is driven largely by, Elon tweeting has been maybe the main driver of it gaining and losing value. Which is bananas.

Which is bananas. It's crazy. Well, that's when the fake anonymous video came out right people pissed off at him for doing that because they're like you're fucking up people's lives yeah with these tweets well it's the other thing is like there are true believers that believe it's going to replace gold and you know i i don't know if that's going to happen um there's a lot of people that believe it will be the reserve currency. And in 10 years, it'll be worth a million dollars of Bitcoin. I don't know. Who knows?

It's a very interesting... The guy that started it is either dead or no one knows. But he has like the Satoshi... Nakamura. Yeah, he's got... I forget how many coins he has. He has a million coins. Yeah. And they don't know if he died or if he... He has coins he has. He has a million coins. Yeah.

And they don't know if he died or if he... He has a million coins. He has a million of them. And they don't know if he died or if he... They don't know who he is. They don't know who he is. He's the Banksy of crypto. He could be one of three people.

How crazy is the Banksy situation? How does no one know who Banksy is? I think people know. I think they know. I think they know. Who knows? I don't know. Do you know?

I'm pretty sure they know now. I don't think the guy who they think it is has admitted to it. Oh, they think they know. Who knows? I don't know. Do you know? I'm pretty sure they know now. I don't think the guy who they think it is has admitted to it. Oh, they think they know the guy? Wasn't it? Someone said it was someone in a band. Yeah, they nailed down like every time this band played somewhere, a Banksy thing showed up like the day before or after or something. I like that.

I think that's fun when people are anonymous. I think that's good. I think it's fun when people do things like that and then people have to figure out who they are. Oh, it is fun. It is fun. It's definitely fun. Bigfoot's fun when people do things like that and then people have to figure out who they are. Oh, it is fun. It is fun. It's definitely fun. Bigfoot's fun.

Why not? Yeah. It's all fun. And Bigfoot is, you think there's any possibility that he's still around? I don't think so. No. No. Unfortunate.

It's possible. If anything, the density of the forest in the Pacific Northwest would be able to shelter some kind of creatures like that. Do you think he was around at one point? Yeah, it's 100%. 100%. Yeah, it was a real thing. It was a thing called the Gigantopithecus. They actually have bones that would indicate it was a bipedal hominid, an enormous one that they think is somewhere between 8 and 10 feet tall.

And it existed for sure during the same time as human beings as recently as a hundred thousand years ago where is the most credible account of somebody seeing that hominid there's none none that are really good okay there's no really good accounts that's the problem yeah the Patterson Gimlin footage is horseshit it's right it's the guy Bob Hieronymus who said that he wore the Bigfoot suit. There's side-by-side video of him walking and the Bigfoot suit guy walking, and he walks like Bigfoot. Yes, that was him. He's a big, lanky cowboy motherfucker who's walking like this.

And if you put that guy in a gorilla suit and you filmed it all shaky off a horse, it would look like Is it amazing to you as somebody who spent so long thinking about otherworldly visitors that now they're releasing all this information and no one really cares? Well, the world is in such chaos now. No one cares. No one cares. I couldn't care less. If this happened during the middle of the Obama administration and everything was going great, it would be giant news.

And what is the news even that the Pentagon just can't account for all these unidentified flying objects? Yeah, they don't know what they are. There's some of them that could easily be drones because they're not moving at spectacular speeds. They're just sort of like hovering over aircraft carriers. Those could be drones. They could be some new style of drone or some new kind of technology

that maybe some foreign government has. But there's other ones that were spotted by Air Force pilots and then tracked and they have detailed data on the speed of these things. They have video of these things going with what appears to be thousands of miles an hour instantaneously accelerating with no visible propulsion system, no heat signature. They don't know what the fuck this is. And this is from 2004 off the Nimitz. Commander David Fravor, who was a fighter jet pilot, is like rock solid credentials.

You can't, and I've talked to the guy. I had him on my podcast. And even better, he was on Lex's podcast. And Lex did an even better job than i did and talked to him for two plus hours about this and the guy's incredibly credible that fucking thing whenever he was tracking went from the nimitz tracked it they tracked it on radar they tracked it with um their uh the the onboard sensors the the the things they use for targeting enemy crafts. They tracked this thing from the Nimitz. It went 80,000 feet above sea level to 50 feet in a second.

That's crazy. They don't know what the fuck it is. They don't know what it is. They know that it was jamming their radar. They know it was jamming them, and then it moved. When it took off at insane rates of speed, they couldn't even watch it. It just, it's gone. And then it reemerged at the cat point.

The cat point is the predetermined location where the jets are supposed to scramble to during this exercise. So it's literally saying, I know where you guys are going. You're going over here. Whatever the fuck it is, who knows? But does that mean that it's from another planet?

No, it could be some fucking insane technology that the military's developed. That we don't know. It could be DARPA. Because have you seen that shit where the military, there's patents for UFO type? See if you can find what those are. Because they're developing or at least they've attempted to develop some sort of gravitational drive that would indicate that at least there's been some thought about developing a craft like that. Now, if you put a person in one of these things and you shot them off thousands of miles an hour,

they turn into jello. Right. But who says it's a person? Who knows? We got a rover on Mars right now taking pictures. There's a helicopter attached to it. You got high resolution photographs from Mars. Here it is.

Docs show Navy got UFO patent granted by warning of similar Chinese tech advances. This is what I'm saying. Patent document indicates that the US and China are actively developing radical new craft that seem eerily similar to UFOs reported by Navy pilots. Now, if this is like on paper somewhere where they're trying to get patents and they're telling you the Chinese military already has something like this, what we're getting is years later. Right.

They've been probably developing shit like this for decades. Forever. So they probably have some sort of working thing that can move in extraordinary ways. We are not going to care until there's a Mars attack style raid on the White House. Like that movie. Act, act. Yeah. If you're not going to, if you don't land with ray guns and start blasting people, I

don't even give a shit. Like no one's going to care. We're real weird with it now. Yeah. I've always said that if aliens are real, Earth is the Tijuana of outer space. You're not kidding. And they come down here when they're fucked up and they want to see a show. Yeah.

That's exactly right. And then they leave. No one's trying to save Tijuana. No. Nobody's thinking about it. Yeah. It's a place that you go and they mention it in a movie. Yeah. Every now and then. You'll see save Tijuana. No. Nobody's thinking about it. Yeah, it's a place that you go, and they mention it in a movie every now and then. You'll see a donkey show.

Robert Rodriguez features it in a vampire movie, and then you get out of there. It's interesting. It's the one conspiracy that I've never gotten into that much because the information is so tough to come by that I've just always said nothing it's, nothing would surprise me. Nothing would surprise me. There's something going on. There's something going on. But what that something is remains to be seen.

Have you seen that video of the men in black that walk into, they walk into this, it's just two very tall weird dudes that walk into like a hotel and then leave. Jamie, you can find it easily. And it's just these guys that were supposedly like, you know, something weird happened. And supposedly they're guys that come in like after something weird happens and like shut it down. And they're both very tall and very, and I don't know if it's fake or not. I don't think it is fake though, but I don't know. It could be fake.

Where can one find this video? It's on YouTube or something. Jamie can find it's the real men in black it's like the real you know whatever you know supposedly there was something that happened where i don't know somebody went in after it like somebody had to go respond to something and these two weird-looking dudes came in. Very strange. There's got to be a men in black. If there are, if we know about, there's got to be some part of the government that deals with that. Well, there's two schools of thought, right? One school of thought is that the government is way too incompetent to ever keep anything from anybody.

That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. And there's other schools of thought where you're like, no, there's a perceived buffoonery that's attached to some level of government because there's a lot of people in government that are fucking idiots. There's a lot of people that work at UPS that are fucking idiots.

But if you get to the highest levels of the organization, if you're going to ascend to the highest levels of the CIA or the NSA, you're going to probably be brilliant. Right. What are the odds that you're not? You're probably going to have a deep-

And a good person. No. The best people. But you're going to have a deep understanding- You're going to be smart. Yeah, of what's going on. Yeah, of foreign policy and how to manipulate things and intelligence. Did you not find the Men in Black video?

Not really. I found something, but it was animation and stuff. It wasn't really like a hotel. No, I don't know if it was a hotel. It was just two guys that walked in and then left. And they looked very strange. The video I found is like a description of events of like that happening. I didn't find it with the actual video.

I'm looking. Well, it's always been one of those things, a part of UFO folklore, right? These men in black folks. They look oddly fake. They look like fake looking skin when they show up. been one of those things a part of UFO folklore right that these men in black folks yeah oddly fake they look like fake looking skin right show up yeah that's what I would do if I was gonna go interview some guy about uh UFOs you know what I would do I'd put like weird white makeup on yeah yeah dress in a black suit and ask him strange questions while wearing sunglasses yeah I have him freak out why not why not fuck with him yeah Why not leave him to the point where what he's going to tell all of his friends is so

crazy, no one's going to believe it? Well, that's part of, I think, what a lot of it is. Imagine if you have an aircraft that's shaped like a pyramid, right? And you're flying it over Philadelphia. Yeah, here it is. Okay. That's all it is. I don't know what this is.

Yeah. Dude's wearing suits. To me, that proves it. Yeah. What is that? Real men in black. It proves it to me. What does it say?

That proves it to me. What is the Niagara Falls? Show canceled. What is that? Immediately. Okay. What does he say? Finally, we have perhaps the most conclusive evidence of the real men in black at a hotel in Canada.

And the manager was a little disturbed when his bellboy informed him that the previous day the hotel had been visited by two tall men dressed completely in black who demanded to speak to him. Maybe they were Johnny Cash fans. Yeah. What the fuck does that mean? So they're just men. This is what's ridiculous about conspiracy theories. Those are two guys wearing suits. But they didn't have eyebrows.

I have a suit. Do you have a suit? Yes, but I don't think they had eyebrows. Now that... What is this? They had no eyebrows? Oh, see, that's what I would do. I would fucking shave my eyebrows or put some makeup on over them so that I look like a weirdo

and then make them real uncomfortable when they're telling their friends, man, you're going to fucking believe this this look at these guys Here they are okay. That's got a movie right? What is that image from? Let that guy play it out. Let's hear concludes our look at the men in black Come on guys get striped eyes at just a handful of real-life accounts involving these mystery men There are many more stories to look at online. Oh, as long as they're online.

There's a British guy. There's the men in black. There are many mysteries to look at. As long as there's more stories. Yeah, online. As long as there's more content online we can sink our teeth into. Rabbit holes. Yeah.

We love to go down them. What do you think is going to happen? Do you think in 20 years people are going to look at us as like prehistoric creatures with all this stuff because they'll know a lot of it? They'll look at us and they'll go, what are you talking about? Like you guys are goofballs. You know, I was watching a video where Yuval Noah Haradi, do you know who he is? Yeah.

The guy who wrote Sapiens. Yeah. Yeah. He was talking about what happened in the early days of literature and that in the early days of literature, see if you can find this, it's on his Instagram and it's very, very interesting. It's a speech that he's giving where he's talking about disinformation online. And he said that in the early days of literature, the things that people were reading weren't books about Galileo. It wasn't about nature. Right. The early books were how-to books on how to spot witches. Wow. And they were the most popular books.

So everybody was reading witch books and they were killing witches. Right. So who knows how many fucking innocent people were murdered where they thought they were witches because they had read these books proclaiming this is how you spot a witch. Right. Which is what he was saying is exactly the kind of disinformation you're getting now with this new media source.

So the old media source being printed word, all of a sudden it's in a book, it must be true. This new media source, oh, I read it online, it must be true. I saw a video, it must be true. But it's the same type of thing. Right. So what they're trying to do. And every now and then they hit on something right. Every now and then they do get a witch. Yes. true. It must be true, but it's the same type of thing. Right. So what they're trying to do- And every now and then they get, they hit on something right.

Every now and then they do get a witch. Yes. Right. I guess. Yeah, of course. Maybe. There was absolutely witches. There were annoying women.

Let's say that. Yeah, there's definitely been annoying women. There were annoying women that no one missed. Yeah, for sure. Sure. Absolutely. There had to be. I mean, it's a thing.

It's a real thing, of course. Looking for the men in black thing, I stumbled across this. It apparently was in a leak from Edward Snowden's, a dump of stuff he put out. This is in 2014, the article. This is a PowerPoint. The Art of Deception, Training for a New Generation of Online Covert Operations. What sticks out here is a couple slides in. It says what they're looking for is we want to build cyber magicians.

And then it goes into this long thread of how they do this. And this is something that Edward Snowden exposed? Yes. So what this is, explain what this is. So I'm trying to look through, because it says on it, like, secret. It says USA, you know. There's pictures of four guys lifting up a tank. Oh, yeah, but you know what those are?

Those were inflatable tanks that they inflated and installed to trick the Russians or to trick the Nazis into thinking that they had troops moving into specific areas where they weren't really – it was a deceptive tactic. You could find that online. I love that. There's video of those guys picking up. It says, attention, perception, sense-making, behavior, effect. Psychological building blocks of deception.

Wow. Yeah. Well, for sure they know how to fuck with people. But here's like, how are you going to use social media to do it? This is, so this is something, okay, it's on the Intercept, right? Which was where Greenwald used to work. And so it says, the map of technologies to message delivery, email, webpages, blogging, LinkedIn. And what are they trying to do here?

Community of interest. So it's clear that the type of manipulation that they've been involved with is orchestrated. Yes. And the battleground now is online. Yeah. A hundred percent. Well, that's why they have such a hard time with people like you and I. They don't like it.

Well, that's what I'm trying to make money for the next five years, and then we'll see. I don't know where, I don't know the long-term play online. I don't know. No. There's a lot of things that are not encouraging. Like what? The demonetization of certain channels,

the call to limit topics that you can discuss, the, you know, those things to me are you know they don't bode well particularly for the future there's never a time where censorship is a good thing never never has been of course never will be when when people are being censored by large corporations the odds of you getting the truth the whole truth and nothing but are very slim You're gonna get a watered-down corporatized version of what may or may not be true and if they can withhold certain information and maximize profits or increase the the profitable mark like if they have relationships with certain corporations that would lose money if

People started discussing certain things right most likely suppress those things. Right. And come up with some justification for why they're doing it. Well, yeah, I just hope that, you know, that we can, that it doesn't get worse. It's going to get worse. And I know it will. So that's what I'm saying. I want to do well and earn money.

And then hide in the woods. And then we'll see what happens. I don't want to go to the woods per se. Maybe the beach, but I don't know what's going to happen. And when you're making a living speaking and telling jokes and you're using these platforms to do it,

it's, you know, you think about it. You go to bed at night and you go, okay. Well, at the end of the day, we always do live comedy. Yes, that's true. the day, we always do live comedy. Yes, that's true. Live comedy is always going to exist. And whether or not you can let people know where your show is is going to be harder and harder.

That's going to be, yeah. I mean, imagine if you're Donald Trump right now. It's very difficult to even tell people what you're thinking today. He can get it out. Today. Of course. Like if he wants to tweet. Banned from everything. Can't tweet.

If you want to put something on Parler, who's reading that? Right. He started that new platform though. He bailed on it. No, yesterday. Wait,

what's his? He started a new platform yesterday? What is it? What is it? It's called Getter. G-E-T-T-R. Get her. I mean,

he's fun. What the fuck? He's a lot of fun. He's a lot of fun. That's fun. What the fuck? He's a lot of fun. He's a lot of fun. That's a new platform he's starting? It says, yeah, advertise mission statement as fighting cancel culture, promoting common sense, defending free speech, challenging social media monopolies, and creating a true marketplace of ideas. Officially launches July 4th.

Have you seen this guy Hasbulla on TikTok? Mini Khabib? Oh, yeah, the little tiny guy. I'm trying to? Mini Khabib? Oh, yeah. The little tiny guy. I'm trying to get him on the show. Oh, how are you going to get him here? I don't know. By saying it on a very big podcast.

But I really want Hasbulla to come on my show. You've got to give him that paper. We'll pay him. We'll pay him 10 grand. In American money or rubles? In American money. That's huge, right? $10,000 is a good amount for that film.

We'll pay Hasbulla $10,000 to come on the show. Okay. He has a fight with another little guy, Abdu Rozek. Well, let me say this. I was going to have Lex Friedman translate, and then he's like, well, I do serious stuff with Russia, so I don't want to get involved with this. Well, he has to be careful. Is this his car?

No. He's got a- Maybe then 10 grand's not enough. Oh, he's in the trunk? Oh, no. Dude, he's a gangster. He's everywhere, though. He's everywhere. They're doing an amazing job with him, he's a gangster. He's everywhere, though. He's everywhere.

They're doing an amazing job with him, I have to say. He's doing a great job. Mini Khabib. Mini Khabib. Whoever is handling him is doing a fucking phenomenal job. Because he's like 18, right? Yes. Did you see the press conference with him and the other kid?

Yes. I mean, it's amazing. Look, he's everywhere. How many followers does he have? Two million now. That's... He's sitting on fucking Khabib's lap. Yeah, we're just trying to get mini Khabib.

Did you hear the TikToker YouTuber fight? Did you watch any of that? No, but I want to say this. I want to just put this out there. Yes. If he's willing to go on your podcast, I will promote it on my Instagram page, which has 12.8 million people. I will help him.

I will talk about it on this podcast. I'm doing so right now. We're going to clip it and send that to Can I be there? I would love you to be there. Will you do it here? We'll do it here. We'll do it here. Yeah. We'll do it here. I'll be there. See, this is Abdul Rozek, and they're very angry,

and they're talking about Hezbollah has accused him of advertising sports betting during Ramadan. No good. Is that what he accused him of? Yes. And the other guy has accused Hezbollah of using crass language during Ramadan, which is also not good. Wow. Yeah, so we're trying to get Hezbollah on.

I have very few goals, and this is one of them. It's incredible how much they've elevated this guy's platform so quickly. It's like that one little video caught fire, and it wasn't that long ago. And then all of a sudden, there's this massive push behind him, and I see him everywhere. Every time I open up Instagram, I see a little video of him. He's doing a great job. Who's ever doing this, whether it's Putin, whoever it is, good job.

Hats off to you. Two million followers. That's incredible. How many followers do you have on Instagram? I have 423,000. And you have a very popular podcast.

Yeah, and the podcast is great, but it's doing well. You're killing it. I'm no Hezbollah. But isn't that amazing? You have less than a fourth of what he has.

Oh, I would expect to have much fewer than him. But that's nuts because I think a year ago he had zero. Well, he's hot. How long has he been around? Hard, quick. Hard, quick. Yeah. But I would have thought Meghan McCain would have put you over the top.

That one. Not that, no. Because he's just, I mean, every time I see him, like the other day he fought a monkey. I can't do this. I don't have this. I can't do it. He fought a monkey? Yeah.

Oh, no. He's really fighting a monkey. Yes. I told you. Oh, no. The monkey's going to bite him. Don't fight monkeys. The monkey's winning.

Yeah. The monkey's going to win every time. But this is the type of content I really cannot compete with. Monkeys can throw themselves through trees with one arm. Aw, they made up. Yes, he does a lot with this monkey. Bro, that's a baby baboon. Dude, Chechnya's wild.

They are wild. They're wild. They're wild over there. The head guy in Chechnya is a giant fan of MMA. Yeah, but don't they kill everybody over there? They just kill everyone. They're not a fan of gay folks. They kill a lot of people.

Yes. Well, anybody who steps out of line. Yeah, anybody who steps out of line. Why keep around? Yeah, they're not fans of that. But I'm sure they like MMA. They were letting children fight, and people got angry about that.

Well, not only did people get angry, but Fedor Emelianenko got angry, and then that guy got mad at Fedor Emelianenko Who is Fedor Emelianenko is arguably the greatest heavyweight of all time Okay, when he was the heavyweight champion of pride he was the fucking man. Okay, so pull up Fedor highlight reels Fedor and he said you can't fight you can have children Yeah, he was like you can't shouldn't have children. And this guy was like, who the fuck are you? Fuck you.

Seriously. I don't know if he used that language. Right. That tone. Yeah. Very upset. Where do you stand on the children fight? Children?

This is my position. It is good for children to learn to spar when they're children because they don't hit hard. Right. And when you spar, when there's not much consequences, it's better. Right. Because you learn how to spar and you don't have as many mental blocks. When you're a grown man, so if you're a 20-year-old guy and you're real strong and then you're sparring with another 20-year-old guy

and you're trying to really hit each other, you're tense and you don't learn as well. When kids, kids are hitting each other and it's like not that much of a consequence. So like you get to understand the movements better. So what you're really supposed to do is a lot of drilling. And then if you can get used to sparring when you're young, you actually can develop better skills. And it's arguable, but also there's a thing that happens when you're really young where your body matures into striking.

Like I got into martial arts when I was a young teenager and my body was still growing. So as I learned martial arts, my body matured into martial arts and I developed striking skills while my body was growing and getting stronger and thicker. And I think you get better that way. I think when you're already a grown man, unless you have a very specific style of athleticism, it's harder to get good at striking. Like some wrestlers, they have like a slower style and they don't have a lot of fast twitch muscles in the same way that like a striker does.

They have a really hard time developing striking power and real striking skills as they get older, because it's just a different thing to learn. Football players, same way. But what about these fights that they were doing with kids was not good? Well, they do it in Thailand. See, in Thailand, kids sometimes will have 100 fights, man. Right.

So maybe it is good for the children to fight. It's not. Look, all fighting gives you brain damage. What about babies? Babies can't even hurt each other. You let them fight and they have mushy heads. Because that to me is even more fun, like toddlers fighting. Well,

yeah. Let me see what this looks like. See, those kids kind of look a little muscular. I think when you get to this age, they can hurt each other. But maybe not, you know? I think, but here's the thing. It's like if you have good referees and you teach them how to fight correctly and you teach them how to be defensively responsible,

the thing is about this is they don't have the ability to consent because they're so young. That's the problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you're seven years old or however old these kids are and your parents tell you to fight, you don't know what brain damage is. You don't know that you're going to live to be 80. I mean, you do, but you don't really understand it yet.

Oh, they're fucking cracking each other. These kids have skills. But if they can learn these skills at this age, yeah, they're going off. But see, that referee is on top of them, right? He's paying attention. And these kids aren't necessarily getting badly hurt here. They're just getting kind of touched up. It's tricky.

Like, I would want my kids to learn. It's almost like kids being actors. If my kids wanted to learn fighting, like I say, if they decided, even my daughters, if they said, I want to be a fighter, okay, okay. We're going to do it slowly and we're going to do it the right way. And I want you to develop like legitimate defensive skills before you start sparring. It's almost like any job a kid has, whether it's a kid goes, I want to be a movie star or I want to be a musician.

Like any job that a kid has, you've got to be very careful. Very careful. Maybe even more so if they want to be a movie star, believe it or not. Of course. And you need certain kids to do kid roles, right? You've got to have them. But there are so many

you know, we all have so many, we all know so many horror stories about abuse, whether it's sexual, physical, mental, emotional. Kids are not ready for that level. So it's like with the same thing with that, you got to be very careful. They don't even know what the fuck being a normal person is. Like at least you and I, right, we're getting a lot of attention as adults.

But we went through most of our young life being completely anonymous. Well, I was on Sesame Street as a kid. Were you? Yeah, I was on Sesame Street twice, so I mean, I wouldn't say anonymous. Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. Yeah, no, I wouldn't say anonymous.

I forgot about that. You may have been anonymous. I was anonymous. But I was on Sesame Street. How much attention did you get from that? From my third grade class was very impressive when it was played for them. Yeah, we played it on the big screen.

Were you like the king of the class? Well, for the day. Where are you? Oh, that's where we played this. Yeah yeah we played it on the king of the class well for the day are you oh that's we played this yeah you're in the back right the blue shirt there you go everyone goes it was not diverse it was always diverse yeah it's pretty diverse sesame street was always like one of the most progressive shows yeah it was progressive but this is what i did this was is that the snuffle up i guess yeah yeah what was he some drug addict but i mean but wasn't a drug addict in real life oh yeah they were all up does he have two arms inside that thing is that what's going on i mean all these people were so up i mean were they it yeah a lot of them were did you meet them you would see them like the guy who did big bird

was a kind of methie looking like. That guy, Carol, you know. And then I only did the show twice. I did that and I did another thing. And then they sent me a letter when I was in third grade just like, we can't use you anymore. Why? Because it was a hilarious letter I put up on some social media where they said, our audience is younger.

Our audience is now two to four. And they don't want to see like like, nine-year-olds. This was a fact. Or 11-year-olds, whatever. You were too big. Yeah, but that's why I learned how to be in this business, because you face rejection. Yeah. I went on auditions when I was a little kid all the time, and you would just be in the middle of the script.

You'd be reading it, and the guy would go, yeah, thank you for coming. I was talking to this dude once. He was a martial arts guy that was also an actor. And he was saying that the real problem in Hollywood is that they don't have enough roles for Asian people. But he wasn't saying it like, you know, as an Asian guy, it's very difficult for me to get parts. He was saying it like Hollywood has a responsibility to write roles and to have roles for Asian people. And I remember me and him having this conversation, and part of me wanted to see it from his perspective and go, yeah, that's got to suck.

Because imagine if you're an Asian man and you're trying to act in Hollywood and there's 100 movies, but there's only one role for an Asian man. But there's like 99 roles or 250,000 roles for a white guy. Right. Like, what do you do? That's tough. But is it the responsibility of Hollywood to write for Asian people? Because my take on it was like, okay, if you're a guy and you're a screenwriter and you have

a vision, you're not thinking, I want to make two black lesbians and one Asian guy and have as few white people as possible. What I want to do is just make a movie. And I have a movie about a monster chasing people. I don't give a fuck who he kills. I'm not thinking about it that way. But his responsibility was Hollywood is an industry and they need to make space for Asian people. Yeah, I think there are weird blind spots.

It was weird that they never had an Asian person on SNL for years It was weird that never had a black woman on when did the first Asian person get on recently? Was that that guy that's on it right now? Yeah, it's weird that they Didn't but a lot of the people that write for these comedy shows are all Harvard white guys It's not even like working-class guys, right? So people that all come out of Harvard all come out of Yale same with news radio of all those on news radio All the writers came from there so there are these blind spots and I think that like

you do want different types of people that bring different things to the table I think what happens is you also have to understand and accept the fact that there may just be less Asian people pursuing comedy that's also a fact there's perhaps less but I mean this isn't even comedy

we're talking about just acting and there's going to be less there's perhaps less, but I mean this isn't even comedy. We're talking about just acting. Yeah. And there's going to be less... There's going to be more white people because the majority of the country has been white for so long that when you look at the movies and the TV shows, they're all going to be predominantly white because that's the majority population. But yeah, Hollywood should do a better job of writing roles for different types of people. Right. But whose job is that to do?

Because if you're thinking about a guy who's a screenwriter, if you're just a dude and you're just trying to, you're some Quentin Tarantino character, you're just trying to write some crazy wild movie that's going to be an awesome movie. You're most likely not thinking about making sure that the cast is diverse. I think you got to hire an Asian screenwriter. Well, this conversation that I had with this guy was like in the early 2000s or the late 90s. It was quite a while ago.

Yeah. But I remember being in this situation where part of me wanted to argue against it and part of me wanted to argue for it. So from his position, I was like, yeah, I get it. I see what you're saying. It's got to suck. But then I was like, but man, if you're a guy who's got a vision and your vision is like four white guys go camping they get eaten by a werewolf and that's the whole movie

like what is it your job to cast an asian guy is it your job to decide one of these guys is asian i think it's about stories right so you gotta look at like where you would you would look at like obviously every movie is not four white guys to get eaten by a guy. So you look at, like, what are interesting stories that may emanate from Asia? Like, find stories about Asian people, find stories. And I think that can be done. People should do a better job of that. I think it's studio heads going.

Because there are markets, right? There's markets out there that are underserved. So there are people that want to see those movies that aren't getting them. And then when you have the black panther when you had black panther people were like okay we want to see this it's a big movie so i think it's just the job is finding those markets out there that make because nobody does anything unless it makes the money right so i think what they're afraid of is doing things that fail doing things that don't make the money so i think once it's shown that these things are profitable and they do make money and people do want to see them, you'll see more of it.

I think now we've gone the other way where it's an overcorrection where we're putting identity above talent. That becomes a huge problem. That is a problem. Because the game is supposed to be that everybody, regardless of who they are, has to compete and their talent has to be the main driving factor. And then because the problem with that is you get bad actors, and I don't mean bad actors in terms of not being good at acting. I mean people that are acting in bad faith. They decide to play off of their identity versus talent,

and they try to weasel their way in a position to get roles. And it lowers the quality of everything. And you want, and by the way, it's actually not the really funny comedians or the really good actors that are minorities that get chosen. It actually happens to be the people that are the most political. Yes. And the loudest. And the most able to take advantage of the system so you see actually a lot of really funny comedians get passed over uh in favor of people that are just very good

at optics and i think that's the probably we all want more diverse movies and we want we want things that are interesting opportunity for everybody i want opportunity everybody i also get bored i don't want to watch just four white guys in the woods get eaten by a werewolf But I want to it's a good movie though. Yeah, I want to watch it once but then I also want to see Different types of movies absolutely that make you work movie. Absolutely. Yeah, it's the and that's one of the crazy things You know I had this wild conversation with Quentin Tarantino. That's become a big deal about Bruce Lee but one of the crit cuz he was kind of critical of Bruce Lee in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and painted him in a way that a lot of people,

and he defended it. But the point is, like, when Bruce Lee came along, he was the coolest person on earth. And you have to understand what it was like to be me in the 1970s when the Bruce Lee movies came out, and I was a little kid. I was blown away. I was living in New Jersey, and me and my friend, we lived in this apartment building together. We watched one of the Bruce Lee movies on television, and I couldn't fucking believe how cool he was.

And everybody wanted to be this one Chinese guy. Everybody wanted to be Bruce Lee, which had never happened before. which had never happened before right like a guy was so cool that a previously on not unrecognized but uncelebrated uh class a chinese martial arts actor like that didn't exist now was the most important one of the biggest most popular actors in the country which is nuts like that's never happened before right where one guy breaks through in a genre and literally transcends all of Hollywood and became Bruce fucking Lee where when you thought about martial arts you thought of Bruce Lee and he was literally one of the biggest stars on earth right which is nuts no and that's that's the whole importance of having people like that.

Yeah. Well, it's also like there was so many things going on there. There was like incredible talent, incredible physical looks, like he was shredded. No, no. Who the fuck was shredded back then? Yeah. When Bruce Lee would take off his shirt and go like this and pull his lats up, nobody was built like that back then. I mean, he was fucking shredded. Yeah. When Bruce Lee would take off his shirt and go like this and pull his lats up, nobody was built like that back then.

I mean, he was fucking shredded. Yeah. Nobody, like, who back then had a six pack like Bruce Lee? Nobody. Nobody. And by the way, no steroids back then either. Or if there was, I mean, I don't think actors were on them. Like, maybe Bulgarian weightlifters were on them.

It's an interesting question, though. Whose responsibility is it? I think it's just, it's everybody who's got to work together a little bit. I don't think it falls on any one person. Well, one of the beautiful things about our job or our business, the world of stand-up comedy, is the most accepting of diversity, period. All you have to do is kill. That is true. If you kill, it is in many ways a real meritocracy.

Yes. That is true. If you kill, it is in many ways a real meritocracy. Yes. That if you're a fucking murderer, if you're a three foot tall, half Asian, half black, transsexual person, but you go on stage and fucking rock the house. Then you're in. All comics want to give you knuckles and all comics want to go, have you seen him?

Or her? Or they? Or her? Or Zara? Right. Right. They're fucking murdering. Well, that's it. It's the people that can't do that that then have to invent the other qualifications.

Exactly. They invent the other criteria. They invent the other criteria. Who are always bitching about lineups. They're going, look at that lineup. It's all white men. Yeah. Like, okay, well, guess what?

If you went on that lineup and you murdered, they'd put you right the fuck there at the top of the marquee like everybody else who murders. Yeah. Whether it's Ali Wong or Whitney Cummings or Eliza Schlesinger or whoever the fuck it is. Miss Pat. Miss Pat. Whoever the fuck it is that murders.

Right. When you murder, you're treated with utmost respect. It's just the business is hard. Well, that's also a lot of people don't like meritocracy. So I think that's a huge problem. Right. There's a lot of people that aren't a fan of the word. They don't believe there's any type of meritocracy that exists ever

Maybe not a pure one. Well, nothing's pure, right? I mean walk around a locker room Some guys have two-inch dicks. Some guys have nine-inch dicks. It's just is what it is, right? Right. It's not a meritocracy So everybody has advantages in inherent advantages, but I do think the comedy comes the closest. It's pretty close Although I will say that I think it's way more difficult to be a comic and be a woman because there's certain subjects that people like maybe prejudiced people don't want to hear you talk about like guys, like guys don't want to hear a woman telling people what to do. Like, but you won't, you don't mind if a guy goes on stage, like some guys don't mind if

a guy goes on stage and goes, what we need to fucking do in this country is this, that, and the other thing. And if it's funny, people laugh. When a girl goes on stage and says, what we need to do in this country is this, that. And they're like, what you need to do is get back in the fucking kitchen. There's guys who have that kind of attitude. Sex, very difficult. If women talk about sex, either they're perceived as a slut or they're perceived that they're perceived in a weird way like you have to have like that your take on sex can't be as

open as a guy's take on sex right guys can talk about blow jobs or this or that or all you and and people just accept it this is what guys talk about whereas if a girl talks about those kind of things like there's a certain amount of people in the audience that are going to be hesitant to listen to these discussions. It's 100%. It's 100%. Trickier. But it's also how do you fix that?

You can't. You can't because it's a society thing. So if a woman gets through that net, if a woman becomes a Miss Pat and pops through, it's even more impressive. Of course. Agreed. The people that bitch about the lineups, they'll bitch about it and

say, I should be on that lineup. Maybe it's more difficult for you to get through. That is true. But at the end of the day, if there's only 10 slots, should they give a slot to someone who's not as good as someone who's on that lineup just because that person has a well there is a changing

definition of what comedy is and we're not going to like it and i'm i imagine that real comedy will survive in some capacity but there is a changing definition of what comedy is comedy has now become i'm here to speak my truth. I'm here to talk. You're here to listen. And this idea of like punching and hard killing and fun, that is still the comedy that people want to see. It's still the comedy that makes money in clubs.

It's still the comedy that people go to theaters to see. But there's a vastly different understanding of what comedy is from a lot of people that are getting into it now. Many, many people are getting into comedy now with a very different value system and idea of what it is. Truly. And we can hate that and they may all go away and they may not matter.

Nobody cares about what's on TV anymore really. And that's part of the reason because everything sucks. Not everything but a large amount of things. But here's the thing. A lot of people want to go see people go speak their truth. And those people are entitled to do that. No, they're not.

They don't. Because here's the reality. If that was the case, they wouldn't bitch about lineups. Yeah, but okay. What about Hannah Gadsby? Not a lot of people want to go see her. That's not true.

That's not true. She sells out theaters. She used to. And then people went to that second thing where she's like, Picasso was right. But like the second one to. And then people went to that second thing where she's like, Picasso was right. But like the second one that she did, people started to go,

we, oh, okay. You can do the magic trick once. The second time you do it, people start going, oh, okay.

No, she'll work the festival circuit forever. But the reality is I get, she was big. She had that moment. But how many times can you just get up and go men sucks I was you know somebody hit me with a dick on a bus

God bless her but after a while it starts to get stale you know when I think she lost a lot of people she did this women in Hollywood thing and she was talking about the good men the good men and she was shitting on guys who were good guys Jimmy's Jimmy's

of the world yeah and everybody's like wait wait now you're attacking guys who don't attack people yeah like what are you saying like well because you're all no good men Joe that's the point there's no good men cuz good men defend bad men and I don't really know where I am my friends from Australia who had seen her do comedy before yeah we're saying that she was essentially like kind of like a mid-level comic in terms of the jokes. But what people really resonated with in that special was not jokes. Watch the most woke people online. They're kind of hacks.

They're like Catskill hacks. That was a whole type of comedy where they'd get up and go, can you believe I'm doing this? It's like ironic, detached comedy. Is it? And it's like, no, it's much harder to actually do it and then succeed or fail well There was a thing about all comics for a long time where they were upset at comics from like the store of course they put Too much effort out when they were on stage there was literally a criticism yes, they put too much energy there to entertaining Yeah, so because they didn't do that They didn't like that other comics did that. And it was their escape clause.

Like, I don't do that kind of comedy. Right. I do a much more ironic, much more sedate comedy that's much more intelligent. And you want to talk about white supremacy. And for better people. The alternative rooms in New York City where I started were whiter than the Charlottesville March. And they were all rich, white, suburban kids who had gone to theater arts summer camps

and they were like, you know, and then they would be like, you know, they would do these, you know, some of them were funny and some of them got famous and whatever. But the vast majority of them became writers on shows that they hated or whatever. And a lot of them just went really mainstream. And I mean, some of them now write for like network sitcoms and stuff. And they were like, they were the guys in Brooklyn who were like, you know, 2011 They had the beard the thing. Yeah, and now they're writing for CBS sitcom I mean, you know, it's what happens But the criticism of people that are giving out effort like the idea that comedy has to be one style of comedy Right other like I never had a problem with people who talk slowly

No people who are caught is because there's a lot of really funny look stephen wright it's one of the best examples ever he's got one of the most bland deliveries of all time very slow slow burn and one of the best comics of all time i've never i don't care at all about what people do and who they are i think the the criticism usually hits it comes from it's never like i'm never going into bro and going, why am I not on that lineup? Right. I'm never doing that. I'm never going into Echo Park and going, I want to be in that lineup in the back of the bookstore where everybody's drinking coffee and everyone has BLM in their profile picture, but their parents both work at Goldman Sachs.

I'm not saying I want to be on that lineup. Those are the people that are pointing at the store and the improv and the seller of this and that and going, this is unfair. This doesn't work. Also, those people that are on that lineup, they were getting robbed. A lot of those people were doing shows like for the UCB where they were getting no money. They get no money because they're paid in accolades and handshakes and backpats and exposure. Meanwhile, they're selling tickets. Yeah, they're paid in exposure.

But they're selling tickets. I know. They're paying people that work there, but the only people that don't get paid are the comics themselves. Well, you know, it's what happened. The hipster thing, that era of comedy died hard. And it died hard because they didn't talk about anything real. They talked about everything was a literary reference, usually an arcane literary reference. And it was very uncomfortable to bring up anything real. They talked about everything was a literary reference, usually an arcane literary reference. And like, it was very uncomfortable to bring up anything real.

And then I think people in that with during the Obama administration, that was fun. It was like, great. Everyone can, you know, ride unicycles and dress like train conductors from the, you know, 1920s. And then like, what happened was, as soon as Trump happened, it was a hard stop. And that era of comedy died, because they like, uh-oh, we're white. We're the enemy. And it's all these rich kids that went to NYU. And all of a sudden, like, they had to talk about real stuff. They completely didn't know how to do it. They were completely ill-prepared to do it because everything had been like bullshit forever.

And then it just became all about politics. And it's just like now you go to those shows and people just sit there and somebody goes up and makes a point they agree with and they clap. I mean, it's become completely political. It's kind of weird. But whatever. I mean, it's like, listen, I would never say don't have it happen. I would never be like, it's wrong. I don't think it's funny.

But, hey, whoever enjoys that, which my argument is that no one really does, they feel like they have to. You don't think that people enjoyed Hannah Gadsby? I think they enjoyed the idea of it. There was an idea that came along with it. think that people enjoyed Hannah Gadsby? I think they enjoyed the idea of it. There was an idea that came along with it. It wasn't just Hannah Gadsby. It was an idea that came along with it that people really subscribed to. And if you enjoyed it, God bless you, and that's great.

But I think it was a moment as well where it's like, finally someone can tell the truth. I mean mean the entire it was you know the entire special had a very big political overtone which is like

I'm here to tell people you know my truth and she made a lot of statements about comedy and she goes this is what comedy has been for straight white men who rape and now I am here that was pretty, that was the argument. That was the idea.

Comedy was for straight white rapists, and now I'm here to say that the game has changed. And so people like that idea. I think she thought the game had changed for a while. Like, I think the initial success was like- And we also know that there's people in comedy that are very bad and abusive But it doesn't mean that like this is hot. No, it's just ridiculous But in the beginning I think like when things caught on I think it was this thing that happens to people when they become very successful very quickly Is it all sudden they assume?

Some sort of a role of being an arbiter of what's good and what's bad. Right. You know? Right. You know that thing that happens where they just decide what, in terms of like the art form, like this is what's going to happen now. Right. And there was a statement that she had made about Louis C.K., about something about how

she was going to come, you know, like if he came back, then her work was not done. Yes. You remember that? Yeah, well, that's why people like me, I didn't care about the know, like if he came back, then her work was not done. Yes. Remember that? Yeah, well, that's why people like me, I didn't care about the special, but I was just like, this seems a little much. I would say, I'd be like, this seems a little much. I don't want to control what anyone watches or sees. Exactly.

I get deeply skeptical of people that want to control. When you want a lot of control, when you want to really either censor people or shame them into not watching i get very very nervous about that i i don't i'm very skeptical of all those people i they're scary to me well you had the way you and i became friends was you had a post about louis ck and i reached out to you because i think you were dead right you were saying that like there's some legitimate criticisms of what he did but there was also some people that were jumping on board because they were marginally talented at best

and they were seeing this as an opportunity to use what's happening This is how they can compete. We all want to structure the world in a way that we can compete and I think they look at people on stage killing and go, I can't do that. And then when the Louis story happened, they said,

well, yes, fuck him. He was never funny. And the benefit of that is if Louis was never funny, well, then if you knock him off, then the standard is different, right? Because we all were in agreement that he's one of the greats. So if you get rid of all of those people and say, they're just there because they're white men, then the standard of the art can actually be just debased so that anybody can get involved. I mean, that's just what it is. And I think that's what I saw happening where a lot of people that were going, hey, and they like comfort and they hate risk. And that's why a lot of what they do is mediocre.

And that's what I put in the post. And these are the same people. They always work. All these people that are angry always work. They're always in a writer's room. They're always somewhere. Very these people that are angry always work. They're always in a writer's room. They're always somewhere. Very few of them have nothing.

But they don't get the recognition they think they deserve. Because they don't take the risks. They never become great. They never try to get great. They don't have it in them. They like sidelines. They like the bench. And they like to sit there. And they hate the people that are out playing.

And it's just they're always angry. There's always a little anger. And then when something happens like what happened to Louis, then they feel like, okay, it's safe for that anger to bubble up to the surface. What made me furious was that bothered me. And I agreed with you on that. But what made me furious was when his leaked set came out. Yeah. And comics that were

mediocre mediocre comics we're talking about how horrible the set was and how terrible a person he was for joking about those things right and I was like where were you during all of his special one of my favorite that's what was the tweet during the curb your Your Enthusiasm. It was the same thing where they said, you know, the latest season of Curb,

they go, it just doesn't feel like a white guy complaining about all these little meaningless things. It just doesn't hit the same way. And I'm like,

so it was funny during the Iraq War? Was it funny during Abu Ghraib? Was it funny during Guantanamo? It's really just these people feel like it's safe

now to say that and to pile on, which is why they're not successful. Because if they said things that were unsafe, the way that their brain works, if they weren't constantly looking for safe harbor, they might actually do something good. They might take a chance good they might take a chance they might take a chance yeah the uh the attacks on louis particularly after he had gone from 10 months of not doing stand-up to doing one set right so he literally this is his first setback someone records his first setback and in that he has jokes about school shootings he's got jokes about other things that people think are inappropriate but you go back and listen to his old specials. That was his whole fucking act. Yes.

His part of what he does, which is hilarious, is say shit you're not supposed to say. And he doesn't necessarily even mean what he's saying. He's saying it because it's a crazy thing to say and because there's a craft to it. Right. And he's saying these crazy things in a very fun way. Do you think he really thinks that the reason why these guys are talking is because they push some other kid in front of the gunman? No.

Right. He's saying it because it's a fucked up thing to say. Absolutely. And when you're drinking and you're at a comedy club and someone says something like that, you're like, ah, you're not drinking. You're fucking sober. Right. sober right there to see comedy or in the in this sort of Environment where you're laughing at shit that's fucked up, and then he says something like that. It's hilarious, and it is Perfectly in line with his entire career

Yes Not a surprise so to hear people that were praising him as brilliant and a genius up to the point where he got in trouble For jerking off in front of women now saying that he's a monster and that he's all right and he's a piece of shit and he has no heart and he's a hack i was furious and to this day i refuse to talk to a lot of those people well yeah but those people are on a team right and they look at each other and they go is it time and it's like again it's that it's a strategy it's a strategy it's a way to get in it's a way to get in and all these people that are supposedly revolutionaries are they rely on the most antiquated form of the entertainment business which is working

for multinational conglomerate I mean they work for large corporations they're told what to say everything's vetted against sales, standards and practices, advertising. It is the most antiquated way to put any content out. And yet they are dependent entirely on that system, 100%, all the while saying that a guy like you, you're the problem because you have a podcast where you broadcast directly to your fans. Because you have a podcast where you broadcast directly to your fans. They look at – and they have these – and somehow they're not the powerful ones. Somehow they're not the powerful ones even though they work for NBC, ABC, CB – I mean Viacom. These massive corporations and yet somehow they are always looking at the power differential going, oh, those guys are podcasting this and that.

The other thing, we're not oppressing anybody. I don't care what anyone does. Not only are we not oppressing anybody, it's one of the best industries you could ever possibly describe. If you wanted to have a discussion of an industry where the people involved in it wholeheartedly support the other people involved in it. With no financial benefit whatsoever. Right. Other than like, you know, abstract.

But yeah, you think about the way comics who, or even people that just have like Lex, have each other on each other's podcast, discuss each other, talk about great stuff they saw. Yeah. I can't talk about people's good stuff enough. Right. I love when people do good work. I love when people are great comics. I love when people do great discussions on podcasts I love great authors I love things that are interesting to me yeah and I can't wait

to talk about them I love talking about them I don't want to talk about them specifically because it's gonna benefit me I'm I want to benefit them well you were early on like did though you saw potential early on in this. You saw potential in UFC. You see it in Austin. You are good early. Most people don't get it until it's too late. Well, I have brain damage, and because of that, I'm a risk taker.

I'm one of those guys that's willing to jump. I'm like, I think I can make it. Yeah. Let's jump. And I think a lot of people are so adverse to taking those types of risks that they end up hating those who do. Well, I think I have just enough brain damage. I have a mild amount. It's a good amount. I get thrilled by chances and risks.

But that's not even – it's also – there was no strategy involved in doing this podcast. It was simply done because it's something I enjoy doing. So as I did it, I just kept enjoying doing it. And one of the things that I liked about it was like, hey, go see this guy. He's fucking hilarious. Go see her movie. It's brilliant. Go read this book.

I love telling people about shit that I thought was cool. Yeah. And it's also content. It's a good thing to talk about. It's like you need things to talk about Why not kill two birds with one stone you help people that you think are good and talented And then you also you entertain people at the same time. Yeah, I mean it's it's It's the you know, it's the reason that you have the the people that don't like you it's because you know, that's what it is

It's like you have you you actually did it and you don't rely on and you don't like you. It's because, you know, that's what it is. It's like you have, you actually did it and you don't rely on it. You don't need anybody. That's the difference. All the people that are angry need, they're resentful that they need to feel a certain way about things publicly. They don't like that.

People, I think in their soul, make their, they make all these allowances, but they don't want to be owned. Down deep, they don't like being owned. Right. And you're not owned, and a lot of them are, and that's where a lot of the hostility comes from. Because even though they've disguised being owned and altruism and they're great and they're this and that, at the end of the day, I think people genuinely don't like that feeling. And a lot of people that we know experience that feeling all the time.

Well, you see when people get fired for some of the most innocuous things, like here's a perfect example. Gina Carano getting fired from the Star Wars franchise because she equated people... How exactly did she do it? It wasn't the best analogy. She's saying it was like Nazi Germany like people are afraid to share their opinions like Jews in Nazi Germany. Something like that. She was saying it about how we look at people that are political

they're on the opposite perspective politically as if they're the other. And that this is a dangerous thing. And she equated it to Nazi Germany. The way, I might be paraphrasing this terribly, but see if we can find out exactly what she said. We'll find out what she said. But anytime you equate anything with Nazi Germany, you're in a landmine.

Right. You stepped on a minefield. It's not a great comparison. Unless you're literally talking about someone who's trying to take over a country and do something horrific. Unless you're talking about Donald Trump, which people got away with for many years. Yes, constantly. But because she is somewhat conservative, although I don't believe she's socially conservative at all, which is like a lot of people. I don't know anything about her, yeah.

She's a very nice lady. Sure. Gina Carano's a very nice lady. And she's also an amazing fighter. She was one of the top women mixed martial arts pioneers ever. very nice lady sure Gina Carano's a very nice lady and she's also an amazing fighter she was a she was one of the top women uh mixed martial arts pioneers ever well they're gonna make movies her and Ben Shapiro right at the Daily Wire or something they're like making films now right uh they're making a film they're gonna do some they're gonna do some thing where it's like I

think one of their movies was like it was there was a school shooting happening and then like some girl shows up with a gun like Laura Croft and Tomb Raider and just kills a school shooter was like a pro-gun movie for real yeah they're doing stuff like that but hey that's legit whatever they want is that really the plot that's exactly the plot yeah it's some like girl who like learned how to it's like she learned how to use guns so she like she's like I'll stop this so it's a little politically motivated just Just a bit. Well, a lot of movies are politically motivated, right?

Like hero movies. What did she say here? The tweets are deleted, so I could find the text of them. Nevertheless, her social media posts denigrating people based on their... No, no, no, no, no. We need to find out. I'm sure someone's... Oh, here it is.

The actor continues to say... Scroll down low. It goes... Okay. So, Carano fell under heavy criticism after she posted that Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers, but by their neighbors, even by children. The actor continued to say, because history is edited, most people today don't realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews.

How is that any different from hating someone for their political views? I see what she's trying to say. I see what she's trying to say because there are people that absolutely do hate conservatives and they're of the opinion that some conservatives and Trump supporters- Yeah, I completely understand that. So she got fired for that. She wasn't even allowed. First of all, things in print, it's an inherently shitty way to express something controversial

when you're talking about something that's contemporary. When you're talking about something that's going on right now. Because it's so open to interpretation. So many people can form, like, I don't like how you said this because I think she meant this or I think she meant that. The best way to express something like that, ironically, is like this in a conversation. So she was talking to someone and she was saying. There was context. Like if she was having this conversation with us and she was saying, you know, in Nazi Germany, they got their neighbors to hate them first.

Right. And think about how they're their neighbors to hate them first. And think about how they're getting neighbors to hate people now for being conservative. But again, when it comes to something like the Disney Channel or this or, you know, when it comes to her getting fired, they're probably looking for a way to get rid of her anyway. Because she was already saying some controversial shit. And I think she fits right in with, like, whatever Ben whatever Ben Shapiro's trying to do well I don't think he was trying to do anything before this I don't think he was considering me there me they're like a movie studio they were they are now now but was this happening before Gino or did they just decide to go for it and we're there the Daily Caller or the

Daily Wire Daily Wire yeah what's the difference Tucker Carlson's is the Daily Caller. Okay? What what did they decide to get into the movie bit find out if they decide to get into the movie business after the Gina Carano? I think they were also like they just need a place to make conservative movies. I Think that's part of what they were trying to do. There's no there's so few conservative Openly conservative actors like Chris Pratt might be the only guy that I can think of who does really well. You could just make films with Jon Voight. Every movie could be just Jon Voight. He's over the deep end.

And Gina Carano. And James Woods. James Woods. James Woods, Jon Voight, Gina Carano. James Woods is a great example. That's a guy who is, in my opinion, you go back. Great actor. He's an all-time great. He's a phenomenal actor. Great actor. He's been in so many fucking great example. That's a guy who is, in my opinion, I mean, you go back. Great actor. He's an all-time great.

Great actor. He's a phenomenal actor. Great actor. He's been in so many fucking great movies. Great actor. But now, he's known more as

a conservative social media commentator than anything. Well, he's online. Yeah. He loves it. Oh my God, he's on there all day long. He likes getting involved.

Yeah. Yeah. Apparently he's- They've already made a movie. They already made a movie? It came out in January. Yeah, this is the one I'm telling you about. This is a girl.

Run, hide, fight. She was trained by her dad to be a, and then she stops a school shooting by, yeah. Okay, so this. It's completely insane. But this is not, this is not a Gina Carano movie. No, it's a Daily Wire movie. Is this supposed to be any good? Man, if you're going to do a movie like this.

I'm going to say no. But if you're going to do a movie like this, it would be fucking amazing if you did a movie like this and really nailed it. Like really nailed it. Yeah, this is not. I'm already saying that this was not nailed. What does it have there? Rotten Tomatoes, 42%. Listen, go check out Adam Sandler's movie.

Yeah, but 6.5 on IMDb. 17-year-old Zoe Hall uses her wit, survival skills, and compassion to fight for her life and those of her fellow classmates against a group of live streaming school shooters. I mean, can we stop? Does it have to be? Do we have to lather it on? Do we have to like, it's thick. I get what you're trying to do.

Just take it back a little. Disguise it a bit. Bury the narrative. We'll get it. It's just a little, we're laying it on thick now. You know, it's a little too much.

You know? But I think they're trying to counter the liberal narrative. Yes. They're doing it in a weird way. First of all, so there's a woman who is a sharpshooter

who then kills all these school shooters. It's like, uh, we're jumping through a lot of hoops. Maybe. Yeah, but if it was really good, if it was a Robert Rodriguez movie. This is the problem. The left wing shit sucks, so does the right wing shit, because as soon as

you start going, here's the point I want to make right then it's all going to be garbage right instead of just making an awesome make a great movie they're like we want to show people that kids should be trained in weapons so they can go to school and fight the school shooter and and the left when they're making certain god only knows things that they're doing and going we just want to show people that this is the right thing to do so So I think it's just, it's got to actually be. Now, the reason the left is better at it is they've been doing it for a lot longer. I think the Daily Wire only distributed this. I don't think they made it.

Oh, okay. Just for like, because that kind of matters a little bit. Yeah. Yes. Well, Clint Eastwood is the best example. I was just thinking. He's the best example of a conservative filmmaker that's respected. I mean, that guy made The Unforgiven, which is one of the greatest movies I've ever seen.

Clint Eastwood's a massive talent. Yeah, massive. Massive talent. And very, very conservative. Deeply. Yeah. So he's probably the best example of a conservative filmmaker that's, he's excelled in Hollywood. What's the last thing he made?

I know he made Gran Torino, but what's the last, has he done anything since? Yeah, he did something real recently, like last two years. Gran Torino, I want to say it was like five or six years ago, right? Didn't he do something? Yeah, no, he did. I can't remember, so I'm looking. But, I mean, that guy, I mean, he was a massive. Yeah, he did the 1517 of Paris, the Mule, and that Richard Jewell movie, I think was the most recent.

That's right, the Richard Jewell movie. But he was a massive star before politics mattered. Oh, yeah. Like, we didn't know. I mean, Sean Connery is arguably very conservative. He was a giant movie star. Oh, yeah. A lot of, I mean, there's that famous Barbara Walters in it where he was talking about smacking women.

Right. Sometimes you need to smack. Yeah. Sometimes. You give them their point, and it's not enough. Yeah. And they just want to keep going and going. Yeah.

I would not go over today. No. No. I mean, I think it's just got to, you got to, people got to just make good stuff. But now it's all, all these studios are funded by Chinese dark money. All of these things are just, they're just making these Marvel things. There's never, nothing good's coming things. There's never nothing good's coming I mean truly nothing good is got John Cena. Yes

One of the darkest moments in moviemaking Yeah, because you realize that this guy's not apologizing for something that was really horrible that he did No, he didn't get drunk and run into his car and is the biggest market for these apologize for Recognizing Taiwan as a nation. Right. It's crazy. And he was saying, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. I was really tired.

And he's doing it in Mandarin. It's wild. I mean, if you're going to work, you better learn Mandarin. You know? In certain arenas. Vince McMahon was brilliant. He talked John Cena into learning Mandarin. What did we say?

Like 2014 or some shit like that? It's really pretty genius stuff. It's amazing. But that's just one of many indications that the deep interest that China has in movie making, it's very difficult for them to avoid that grasp. Because financially, it was so big. difficult for them to avoid that grasp because the graph financially it was so big opening weekend that movie Fast and the Furious 9 got I want to want to say it's in the neighborhood of a hundred and sixty million dollars opening

weekend 134 of which came from China it's crazy crazy well if you get Megan McKinnon I'll apologize to her in Mandarin Oh for what I've done give me a taste of that well I don't even know. I can't speak any Chinese. I'm so bad at it. Is that racist to do that, to imitate a sound? Yeah, but I don't have a deal with Disney. What if they came along?

What if they tried to co-opt you? I would tell them it's a mistake. I would say as someone who has a rudimentary understanding of business, this is a very large mistake you're about to make. This is not going to pay off. It's not going to pay off. There's not enough room. I just like the freedom.

I like the freedom. I like the live shows. Yeah. I like the podcasts. I'd like to do other things. If the world was different, I would love to make a movie or something because there's no funny movies being made right now. There's not a ton of them. Not a ton of them.

But it's just that that's a thing where like it's a brutal process of and it's just you know. I watched Superbad the other day and I was like good luck making that movie today. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. It would be so fucking hard to make. It would be tough. You would have to deal with your own money and you have to take a big risk. Well that's the whole thing.

I think ultimately if you have enough money you create things and you distribute them. The thing is distribution. So if you can make something and then distribute it and make your money back and then profit enough to pay people, then you could do it. But no one's figured it out yet, really. Ultimately, all of this censorship, either self-censorship or actual corporate censorship, is in some ways it's really good for what we do right because there's a hunger for people that say wild shit yes and i have to say before we end this because i really have to pee really bad you were on fucking fire the other night

it was beautiful thank you you're on a whole nother level it was really cool i did a lot of stand-up during the pandemic uh and you know which i know people call me a murderer for, but we did it safely. But I'm excited about going out on the road and seeing people, and I appreciate you having me. And when the club happens, I have love-hate here with Austin, Texas. It's a little bit of an adjustment. But I know you believe in it strongly. I love it here. I know you do. believe in it strongly. I love it here.

I know you do. I'm going to make you love it here. Well, yeah. We'll see. I've got to get that apartment. We'll bring you in whenever you want. You don't have to stay here. I've just got to get that apartment in Beverly Hills.

Okay. Let's do it. And I'll have the house here. Okay. And then we're going to get you to love LA again. I'm thinking about actually buying a place in Beverly Hills. I was thinking about doing something where I could just jet over the store occasionally. But here's the best way that this works out.

I might buy Ron White's house. Here's the best way that this works out. Okay. You buy me a home in Beverly Hills. Oh. And then you come and stay whenever. Let's talk about this. That makes a lot of sense.

I'm going to pee my pants, so we have to wrap this up. All right. Tim Dillon, you're the best. I fucking love you. Tim Dillon Comedy, if you care. Tim Dillon Show. Goodbye. Yes.

Bye, everybody.