The Joe Rogan Experience - #1689 - Yannis Pappas

Episode Date: July 29, 2021

Yannis Pappas is a standup comedian, actor, and writer. He's also the host of the "Long Days with Yanni" podcast. Check out his special called "Blowing The Light" available on YouTube.

The Joe Rogan Experience. man just you know trying to dodge this delta yeah or the gamma or whatever the gamma the rays yeah the delta it's wild out there yeah it's wild out there it's wild yeah it's hard to know what's what's right and what's wrong some people say don't worry about it the delta is it's less dangerous but more contagious and then some people say no no people are getting really sick yeah yeah vaccinated people getting in europe and not in europe uh in israel there was a study that was released. It was something like – they're like the most vaccinated country. Israel is apparently.

I think they have somewhat close to – I'll read it here. I think it's close to like 90% of the people have been vaccinated. And so now they have a lot of people that are in the hospital that are vaccinated. Yeah, because I guess the more people that get vaccinated, the more people will have those breakthrough infections. What I love about now is like, I have

an opinion on it. 80%. 80% of all COVID patients are previously vaccinated in the hospital. Wow. I thought that was like corrected to like 40%. It's right there. If it's on the phone, it's got to be true. Must be. It must be true at this point, yeah. Is it Fauci approved?

If it's Fauci approved, yeah, I don't know. I mean, hey, if this thing comes back, just be podcasting. Yeah, just lock down and have HEPA filters everywhere. Yeah.

You know, I mean, like March of 2020, I remember thinking like this could be some Mad Max, like Road Warrior type shit where the streets are empty. And then when they started looting, that was one of the things that really freaked me out, the looting in L.A. When no one was doing anything about it, when they're smashing windows and running into stores and stealing clothes and shit. Yeah.

Yeah. And who knows? That could come back. That could come back again. Round two. Oh, for sure. Just like me coming back here. Ding, ding. Round two.

It's not likely going to happen around here. There's far too many firearms. Yes. This is the good thing about overarmed places. Yeah. They're not good places to loot. No. I bet you there's a lot of people who are on the left who are rethinking the Second Amendment

and their view on it just because the context has changed. Yeah. My own friends. Yeah. Friends that were very anti-gun were asking me to borrow guns when the shit started hitting the fan in LA They were asking to borrow guns and I was like you can't borrow a gun Yeah, if you shoot someone with the borrowed gun, I am in trouble Right right and especially in LA because there's weird laws like I don't even think you're allowed to shoot someone in your home

Unless you're in danger and then you have to prove that you're in danger. Yeah, then you have to apologize for whatever part of the systematic problem you contributed to why this person broke into your house. Oh, I didn't think about that. I think you have to do that in court. Yeah, you got to stand up and say, you know what, I'm sorry. Depends on who you are, but you got to say, I'm sorry for contributing to whatever historical factors have led to this crime. Maybe you can fly a couple of like inclusive flags outside your house.

That's actually part of what you gotta do. Have you seen the new flag? There's a new pride flag. I got them all out there. I got Black Lives Matter. I have a rainbow flag. I got it all. Rainbow's not enough anymore.

It's like a new security system. I'm like, whatever. I'm just like, hey man, this property is whatever. Whatever you want me to be, if you don't burn it. If you don't burn it, but then if they come in, I do gotta, I did buy, whatever. I'm just like, hey, man, this property is whatever. Whatever you want me to be if you don't burn it. If you don't burn it. But then if they come in, I did buy a gun. Did you? I got a gun, yeah. What kind of gun did you get?

It's a.22. I think I have to say like that. Rifle, yeah. You got a.22. Are you shooting squirrels? No, I'm not shooting squirrels. I'm just shooting. I've gone to the range a few times.

Yeah, but why do you have such a low caliber rifle? I knew. That's why I felt bad even bringing it up in front of you. It's like taking my dick out when it's limp. Right after you got out of the shower,

cold shower. Yeah. But why such a low caliber? Because I'm a beginner, man. Oh, okay. Yeah, like if I got in a, I'm not going to try to like rear naked choke you

if I got, if we started rolling around. I'm going to try to squeeze your dick or something. Honestly, I'm inexperienced. The best gun for self-defense, for home invasion type shit, is a shotgun.

Because you don't have to be that specific. You know, shotguns, they have like a big, wide spray. As Bill Burr says, got a spray head. He had that joke where he goes, you got to get shotguns, has a spray head. It sprays. Well, that's why they made it illegal to have a sawed-off shotgun.

Yeah. Because a sawed-off shotgun, you essentially can spray a whole room. Right. You know, it spreads out. I picture, like, probably your home. Is your home, like, 007, where there's just, like, a hidden gun in every room?

And you're just, like, if someone comes in, you're rolling around? I have had just given to me, not the guns that I bought, but been given to me 13 guns since I moved here. Wow. Yeah. You want to make that 14?

It's an odd number. It's unlucky 13. I don't think it is. You think it's lucky? I like 13. Yeah, you like to push it. I've always been a fan of 13. Yeah.

But it's crazy. It's like these people out here just give you guns. Yeah. That's like a welcome gift, right? So I have a safe. I have a couple of gun safes. It's just weird. It's just,

the gun thing is weird because like, I like going to the range. I find it somewhat oddly relaxing to like, to point and shoot, you know, as long as you have earmuffs on

and you're protecting your ears and eye goggles and you know what you're doing and you're following gun safety protocol. It's, I like protocol. I like it. I like practicing. It's like yoga.

I don't want to shoot anybody. That's definitely not like yoga. It's similar to archery in a lot of ways. Well, the way you described it is very calming, yeah. It is calming, though. There's something about it because you're concentrating on focusing. You're in the moment. You're not thinking about anything.

So it is kind of oddly spiritual have you gone to gun ranges before? I have gone yeah they're fun right? they're fun but you're right when I rolled in I rolled in with my buddy Paul Verzi because we got the guns at the same time it's a funny story

he bought a gun did you get a.22 as well? he got a.22 we got them together did you guys kiss while you were buying them? no but we clapped guns like that but the guy we went to Dick's But we clapped guns like that. But the guy, we went to Dick's and because like, you know, the pandemic was starting much like you were seeing all these images on screen.

And we live close to each other. And he was like, let's go get a gun. And he didn't tell his wife. Oh, boy. So he went in and all the guns were cleared out. Like, and this is New York. So people were arming up. And the things that were left were these rifles. And the guy behind the counter goes, this is new york so people were arming up and uh the things that were left with these rifles and the guy behind the counter goes this is a good starter gun so he made us feel like

a little he's like this i think he called it a beginner gun and then uh we were both like no no you know give us something we're not beginners we're trying to play it off like i shoot all the time you know i, I shoot people. So we ended up, he's like, you know, because we felt like we were buying BB guns when he said that. Right. But yeah, then he walked us upstairs. In New York, you can't have the gun and the ammo in the trunk together.

You have to have the ammo in the car and the gun in the back. So he walked us up and put them in his trunk. Yeah. And then we drove him home and he told his wife he bought a gun. His wife was pretty pissed. Was she? Yeah, because he didn't tell her. It's a pretty big purchase.

You've got to, like, it's not like Texas where you're born and, like, you know, they cut the umbilical cord and then they put your hand in the gun. Is the wife opposed to it, or did she just want to be informed? She wanted to be informed. She wanted to be part of it. That's reasonable. Yeah. That's reasonable.

If she ever saw a.22 go off, she'd be like, oh. Yeah. Shoot me in the foot. Go ahead, shoot me with that thing. I didn't tell my wife either. I told her I was going out to get watermelons because we were having a party. So I came back just holding a watermelon and a gun. And she was like, what?

I was like, yeah, I got a gun. But my wife's from Long Island, so she was, her and her family were very happy that I got a gun. That's different. Yeah. Long Island's a different animal. Long Island's, yeah. Long Island's Yeah, Long Island's like a colony of Kentucky, Kentucky You go there it's just a different accent, but they say the same What are you crazy? I really love long. I've always loved performing out there, but it's always been a thing Like when I lived in the city, I didn't live in the city

I lived in New Rochelle, but when I would travel like what if i do gigs in the city is that your watch going off how dare you fucking sorry when i was uh when i was living in new york and i would do gigs in long island people that like worked in the city all the time would treat gigs on long island like you might as well be going to oklahoma yeah like what are you doing you're traveling to long island to do comedy you can do comedy right here yeah like why would you do that when you can work in the city? Yeah. It's just a different demographic, different politics, different person. They don't leave there.

So it's kind of like going to another country because they're unaware of what's going on in the city. They don't go to the city. If they come in, they go to Peter Luger's. They go to Peter Luger's. Yeah. Right? Or they go out in Brooklyn, and that's like going out in the city. Yeah.

We're going to the city. We're going to go to Brooklyn. We're going to Bay Ridge. Yeah, we're going out there at Bay Ridge. It's a nice place there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Brooklyn's an odd duck, too. When we do UFCs in Brooklyn, I'm always like, wow, there's no place like this place. That's where I'm from. It's so interesting. Yeah. It's like pre-pandemic. I don't know what it's like now, because I had Hamilton Morris on. He's from Hamilton's Pharmacopia.

He's a drug expert. He's a really fascinating guy. But he was telling me it's very dark. He's like, I go running, and he goes, and there's like dog shit everywhere because no one's picking up their dog shit and stacks of garbage. And like all the public utilities have kind of laxed, so a lot of the garbage pickup is not as good as it used to be. And he goes, and it's kind of dangerous.

It's like it's not what it used to be just a year and a half ago. I was just telling Jamie before, it's like it's starting to feel like the Brooklyn that I grew up in. You're starting to hear crimes that are similar to the ones from the 80s, which were just like wilding kids. I remember there was just like wilding kids. I remember that. The term wilding. They used to call them wilding kids, like feral kids, wilding kids. And it was true.

There'd be just like a pack of kids. You'd turn a corner. There was kids there. You were just like, you just took your hat off and gave it to them. You just took your Nautica jacket off and you like folded it up for them like you were gift wrapping at Macy's and just handed it. And it just, you were robbed and there was just packs of kids. And recently this off-duty firefighter was like attacked by like 40 kids who were just like

is that the guy with the dog he was with the dog yeah that was in a park yeah yeah queens what was the story behind that story was just wilding kids they would just did it to uh to be wilding yeah I think they screamed the slogans they were saying were kind of like that it's fight night it's just like and they beat the out of that poor guy got a kid and just cops are like i i have a cop who lives close to me where i live and he's like he was on the plain clothes unit that they kind of disbanded which was stupid and now he's like doing something else and uh you know he he's he's like look cops their morale is down they don't want to they don't want to do everyone hates them they don't want to do it. Everyone hates them. They don't want to risk it.

Somebody starts running, they're like, I'm not going to chase this guy because he turns around and he throws a camera on or he reaches for something. They don't want to deal with it, and they feel like everyone hates them right now. So it's like that's scary. If you call 911 and they just take their time because they're not, they feel like, am I going they're not yeah they feel like am i am

i going to be am i going to be received when i'm or am i is there going to be someone going hey what you doing what you doing yeah you know yeah their morale's down yeah there's a lot of that going on and i don't know how that gets fixed in any short period of time i think that's a long term recovery project if at all like it's real weird because I've never seen such a dip in our society before during this pandemic. And some of it's understandable, but some of it is like it's a perception, the perception of the police, the perception of society at large. It's just very different than it's ever been before. I think it has a lot to do with us adapting to the internet like and technology it's fairly new and everyone's getting their information from charismatic people who want to be on camera

where it's like the really smart nuanced people like those old school mob bosses who were you know they you know you get caught if you're flaunting yourself John Gotti style but like you know the the people who were behind the scenes like doctors politicians like those are the people who were in it doing it and you know we used to have Walter Cronkite's and Edward R. Murrow's and now we got guys just going up there on internet like with their phone and making these categorical like charismatic statements and people that are really like kind of they're simplified and just just really like generalized and people are just following them. And now we've become like two full countries that hate each other.

It used to be like, you know, you at a time of war or something, you kind of you came together a little bit to support whoever the guy is in office. Now it's like there's people who wouldn't support biden at all no matter what i mean even if like china was storm in malibu and like you know set up their captain's quarters in reese witherspoon's like beach home we'd still be like hating each other and like we're so dis disjointed and disunified it's and i think it's because we're online i think that's a big part of it. And I also think what you're saying about people being charismatic is very true, that these charismatic, influential people that are getting attention from posting outrageous things online, constantly posting things about either the left or the right,

like how pathetic they are and how foolish they are and how arrogant they are and just making these really polarized teams. And I don't, you know, I mean, I don't, I don't subscribe to that. I know you don't subscribe to that kind of shit. It's dumb. It's like, there's, there's great people on both sides. There's people that have a lot of opinions that I don't agree with at all, but then I agree with them on many things.

And I like to just treat people like people and think of their ideas as individuals or individual ideas. I don't want a collective group of ideas that I have to subscribe to. I mean, I think that's a real problem with people, whether you're on the left or the right. You could predict, like if you can ask someone real specific questions, like how do you feel about gun control? How do you feel about the second amendment? Do you think it's important their answer can tell you how they feel about abortion how they feel about immigration? How they feel about whether the election was valid they it's just go down the line with one question. Yeah, it's wild Yeah, and it's sad. It's sad because you should like you said, I mean, it's like The Second Amendment is totally different from abortion totally different from gay And like, it's sad that you can ask one question, you can predict and with

probably great deal of accuracy what those people are going to say based on that one answer, because they've drawn their lines and they're towing this line now and people are so far apart. And then you're right. When you speak to them in person and have a long conversation with them, you find out even though they may lean on this side or lean on that side, most people are pretty reasonable. You know, they care about their family. They care about their money. You know, and politics used to be about that. Hey, it's the money, stupid, or whatever that expression was. Like, it's the economy, stupid.

Because whether you were on the right or the left, at the end of the day, you're about yourself. day you're about yourself. Yeah. I think one big point about what you're saying about these influential people too, is they, they benefit from strife. They benefit from conflict. And so instead of uniters like Martin Luther King jr, you have the opposite. You have people that literally benefit from people being divided. They benefit from calling people out or yelling people down or getting conflict going. That gets them more views. I mean, that's what's going on with Facebook. That's what the algorithms that people are complaining about that are literally accelerating our path towards some sort of civil war.

Yeah. Did you see the social dilemma? I did see the social dilemma. Scary shit, right? Scary shit. And I tell you what I was watching actually on the plane was this, do you remember the Duke lacrosse players? Yes. Remember that story? Yes. Oh dude, the Duke lacrosse players. So the whole media had kind of indicted these guys and they loaded this story with you

know class and race. Explain the story. It was a bunch of lacrosse players they had a party right a bunch of guys had a party at their house. Yeah, they're uppity white guys. They play lacrosse. So it's like nobody comes from the ghetto and plays lacrosse. So you know that they're arrogant white guys who probably, you know, their father may have like a third. They definitely have a portrait in the foyer of like, this is my uncle.

His ties go back to England or whatever. Right. So they're douches. We get it. But they had a party and somebody hired some strippers. And the strippers that came were, like, two POCs. They were POCs. Yeah, POC.

And one of them was- A lot of people listening are like, oh. POCs are people who historically disenfranchised a little darker melanin tones. People of color. People of color. People of color. People of color. And so they came, they stripped. But the girl, they only stripped for like five minutes, and the girl was saying weird stuff.

Then they got mad. The guys got mad because they felt like they were getting conned, that they didn't get their lap dance worth or whatever, their dancing worth. And then something went awry, and then the girl called the cops and said, I was assaulted. And then from there, it became a big story. And it ended up that the prosecutor was withholding exculpatory evidence that would have exonerated knowingly.

I mean, he ended up getting disbarred and doing time because of this and and you look back now you're going like that guy was doing exactly what online personalities do now. It's like this is good for me, I'm in the spotlight, I'm this hero convicting these douchebags, there's the media's attaching this big social justice cause to it, there's this evidence that clearly my client is lying. Let's just put that to the side because all the attention's on me and this is self-aggrandizing

for me. So I'm benefit-forming. I'll just lie and just, you know. There's some evidence that comes that contradicts what I'm saying. Let's just because right now I'm a star. And so these kids were maligned by the media. All these journalists writing this horrible stuff about these kids, the culture of the lacrosse players, the privilege, the white privilege, this, that.

They did this to this poor black person, you know, and then it was loaded because of Durham, because you got Duke, and Duke is like the Harvard of the South, and then you got poor Durham. And then it was all bullshit. It was all bullshit. It was all bullshit. The DNA exonerated the three kids that were on trial. And it ended up this girl had some mental health problems. She ended up killing her boyfriend or something and is in prison a couple years later. She was off.

A few journalists apologized. But by that time it was like, you know now you go to comedy clubs, the joke that comics tell the most, if they see like five like waspy looking white guys, they're like, hey, you guys look like the Duke Lacrosse player, like that you use it as a pejorative. So it doesn't matter if it's true because the media made it true. So a lot of people don't even know that they did nothing because the narrative had already been written. Right. That's the problem. That's the problem. That's the problem.

The problem is once the narrative gets out there, if there's some sort of a correction in the newspaper a couple weeks later, it's always on the fourth page in the lower right-hand corner. Sorry. The amendment to the story. Yeah. Turns out nobody raped anybody. Whoops.

Yeah. Sorry. Sorry we ruined your life forever. But we sold a lot of papers with that so that that isn't a real issue the real here's a real question should you be able to make money off the news it's a good question it's a good question because if you can make money off the news then all of a sudden the news becomes a show and the more outrageous you can get it the more clickbaity you can get it the more you can sort of jazz sudden the news becomes a show. And the more outrageous you can get it, the more clickbaity you can get it,

the more you can sort of jazz up the headlines and distort the story, the more you're going to get people to tune in. If it bleeds, it leads. Yeah. Let's go. I remember when I was working for Fusion, which was like a short-lived company that was owned by Disney and Univision. It lasted like a year.

It was totally like they tried to build a big studio in Miami and they were trying to target millennials. But by that time, like everything was on the phone. People were watching you and it was like, it was just a waste of money. But I remember one of their slogans was like,

start a fight. And I was like, really? Because my two co-hosts were journalists and it was run by journalists and I was like the comedic guy that, you know, they had me in a corner and they opened it up and I

came in I was like to make people laugh but but I was working with like a Peabody award-winning journalist you know Mario Mariana Atencio and Pedro Andrade Andrade he's they he was from Brazil and they were two serious journalists and you know the the when when the executive producer sat us down, it was like, pick a fight. Always look to pick a fight. And I'm like, that sucks. That sucks.

Yeah, that should be happening in MMA with the matchmakers, not your news. That's hard to hear. Yeah. Pick a fight. Pick a fight. Because it gets ratings.

People love the drama. They love it. I mean, if you turned on a real reality TV show, it would just be like a couple guys sitting around, you know? Yeah. Picking their nose, changing channels. But then if you make a reality, you're like, they tell you. That's not reality. No.

The line producer's going, okay, call him the N-word now. He's like, I don't want to call him the N-word. Like, no, trust me. We'll figure out. You know? We'll bleep it out. No one will know what you said. Yeah. Then they let you. Then they start with the end and lead with the are like hey

I bet you punk was a really good guy. I bet you they just edited it you remember puck from real world He was stick. Oh, yeah, that's right. He was no he was a mess But the problem with those guys is that you make a more of a mess by shining the camera on him And then you make them famous. Didn't he, like, lose his marbles after he got off that show? Because he was, like, one of the most famous guys from the real world other than Theo Vaughn. Yeah. Was he on Road Rules?

No. Theo was on Road Rules, right? No, Theo was in one of the houses. He was in the real world? He was, yeah. No, no, well, yeah. He was on Road Rules and then he was in The Challenge, which sort of is like the living experience at the house. Oh, so it's two different.

He was on multiple shows. Theo Vaughn. Yeah. He's the only dude probably to make it out of there. A hundred percent. And be legit. Be legit. Yeah.

I mean, he's a fucking legit comic. He's a funny dude. He's funny. Yeah. He's fucking funny. That dude kills me. And he's funny solo, which is not easy to do. Oh, dude, he's funny, period. Yeah. uh not easy to do oh dude he's funny period yeah he's a

funny fucking comic and so original like who's who's more unique than theo vaughn like his style it's like comedy jazz yeah yeah it's like you're almost listening for the funny and the rhythm of it and it's also it's got like a an element of gonzo to it too sort of like joey diaz like you know he's lying about some of these things but you don't care you know what i mean it's like it's part of the fun like a joey a great joey diaz story who knows what percentage of it is exaggeration or absolute falsehoods right but you don't care right you're there for the ride right and that's what theo my uncle got bit by So, we'll see. Yeah. When he says that, you're like, what the fuck?

We'll see? He's so funny, man. Lying belongs with entertainers. Yes. But unfortunately now, like you said, these journalists have become entertainers. They got their own brand. They got their own Twitter feed. They have their own gram.

Well, it makes them famous and it makes them wealthy well there's a i think there's a um a shining light to that there's like a there's there's a there's a way out of this and i think it's substack a lot of these like legitimate journalists are no longer with these papers that are interested in doing that and they're gravitating towards substack and they have people pay for actual journalism. Yeah. And so there's like, there's, there's a new wave of legit journalists on Substack that are just people subscribe to it and they can choose to subscribe or not subscribe. You pay or you don't pay, you know, it's like, it's your choice.

But in doing so, these people have cultivated a group of people that are actually looking for real journalism. Yeah. It's interesting it is I think That was the problem is the media probably just didn't adapt to the digital age Yeah, they stepped they kept making papers and then they started giving the articles away for free Yeah, and then in order to get clicks you had to make the the headlines into like car crashes To get people's attention, but after you know like from doing comedy

It's the same thing thing when you do comedy, when you're doing like an open mic or a free show, the audience doesn't respect it. It's true. They come in, you do those college shows, they yawn, they come in in flip flops, they suck their teeth at you. You know, they don't care.

They didn't pay. You're not invested. You're not invested in it. And you're attracting an audience that is apathetic. They're not there for the show. But yeah, if you pay for the journalism, you can take that money away. If it's not good, you go, you know, take it away. Yeah, that's an interesting thing, isn't it, about those free shows, paper shows?

Yeah. The audience, the way they feel is so different. Yeah. Shorter attention span, not really that interested, just not invested in the show. Yeah. You don't respect something if you don't pay for it yeah unfortunately that's true it's true but um you know that's a good that's it's like patreon like comedy doesn't happen on television anymore that's not comedy isn't that wild yeah it's wild but comedy is happening on podcasts, on the internet, and Patreon is like the purest, it's probably the purest system, the subscriber model,

that comedians and entertainers have ever had. It's this same model that Netflix has, same model that HBO has, and it proves that that model probably is better than the other models, because HBO for a while has been making more money than all the networks combined because of their dumb pilot system

where they'd make those pilots and spend all that money and then jettison those shows that didn't work. Whereas HBO, it's like, hey, we make the shows that we want to make, you pay the money, and if you don't like it, you leave if you like it. And that's why they were free to be uncensored and push the envelope.

Now that's happening online with Patreon, patreon.com slash yannigalongdays. Yeah, there's a new era in that respect, but Patreon will delete you. That's the problem. They can decide that you're problematic, and they've done that with people before, right? Right. They've done that with people where it was very arguable whether or not what they did was bad or not. That's the issue. You need something where the people get to decide and not a corporation.

You're not going through a filter like Patreon. Right. So how do you do that? I think Sam Harris doesn't use Patreon. I think he does it straight through his website. I think his donations – he's an interesting cat man and the way he does his podcast you it's he does a subscriber based podcast but he doesn't ever want anyone to not get the content if they can't afford it so all you have to do is send an email to him saying that you can't afford it and he'll give you a

free subscription and 100 of all those requests are accepted wow yeah but he still does well yeah it's still doing really well because people want to give yeah because it's really good Yeah, his insight is fantastic. He's a really brilliant guy, but The way he's doing it is all through his first of all There's not a corporation in the world that would do that would say if you can't afford it send an email We'll give it to you for free right, but he does it right? Right. Yeah, so it's an he's got a weird Business model, but it works for him. I'm pretty sure he does it. Right, right. Yeah. So he's got a weird business model, but it works for him.

And I'm pretty sure he does it all through his website. Radiohead doesn't get enough credit. Credit. Credit? Credit. Wabbit. Lastly, wabbit. They don't get enough credit for being like the first.

Remember when they did that on their website? They just said, we're giving you this album for donation. Give what you want. And they made like a ton of money what was that when did they do that remember that in rainbows

it was like 2005 pay what you want release is what they called it the first matriarch to do it who was it Radiohead Radiohead did yeah that's right

that's right and they made a ton and like at that point that was like the coup de grace I thought you were saying radio did that I was like what radiohead that's right radio did that yeah well well louis ck did that too didn't

he did it didn't he do something very similar like that when he released his comedy special he did he did well he did it for five bucks on his website but radiohead was like the first major act of any genre any art form to do it and they it wasn't just a set price it was like pay what you want and people ended up because they love radio had so much they end up paying giving a lot of money much like the Sam Harris model you were just saying like hey if you can't afford it we'll give it to you but people want to pay I think Adam Curry has a similar situation right he allows you could pay whatever you want isn't it I think Adams is free is it free or is it you could

pay whatever you want I think you could pay whatever you want? I think you could pay whatever you want. And some people pay a dollar and some people, he's like, some people pay you a lot of money. Yeah. They just say, this is a great show. I want to support it. You know? Yeah.

It's, there's some purity to that, you know? Big time. There really is. It's a nice business model where you have like a real, like Adam in particular has a real relationship with his fans. You know? It's like they're,'s it works out yeah like everybody agrees you know and he's he does not waver and he does not censor himself himself he's he's always telling you fucking the straight dope no matter what or how uncomfortable or how weird the conversation is yeah yeah and that

that models pure straight to the fans. No middleman, no corporate ethics office or whatever. People crave that, people want that, and that's why the success of that model is the success that it is, because people want it. Yeah. Well, they realize the opposite is dangerous. When you have corporate censored

Information and you're not getting the full Unbiased story you're getting a filtered down story that has been decided upon by a bunch of executives They have say well we're gonna leave that you know much like you're talking about with the prosecuting attorney It was gonna leave out some information that would make us look bad or make the story look bad Let's let's steer it in a certain direction, right? We're not gonna lie, but we're gonna eliminate some stuff that would throw into question whether or not what our story is is accurate right and people see through it now yeah uh a lot of the reason is podcasts like yours where you're like hey i'll let a guy talk for four hours you know you could tune in when you want tune in for as long as you want it's on you but i'm gonna let them talk and um

there's i'm not beholden to you know some peacock logo or you know you're beholden to probably a few you know a few vitamins and a few weights but they never give you advice for you they are good for you they never give me advice though yeah never get advice from the vitamin companies no no should i get the on it uh i'll get it for you what do you want They never give you advice, though. Yeah. Never get advice from the vitamin companies. No. No. Should I get the on it? I'll get it for you. What do you want?

Jerk off stuff? What are you talking about? No, that jerk up motion. Kettlebells? Is that what you're saying? Kettlebells. You can tell I don't really work out. The jerk up motion thing.

I'll give you one to take back with you. All right. As long as it's got a gorilla face on it. I got, what size, how many pounds you want? Can we start with the beginner gun? Yeah. Yeah. I'll have some sent to you.

Thank you. Have you ever used kettlebells before? No? We have some here. We have some in the back. I won't get a hernia from pulling it up. No. No.

The key is like, you can get a really good workout with 35 pound kettlebell. All right. A really good full body workout. There's a great video called Extreme Kettlebell Cardio Workout. It's Keith Weber, and he's a guy who's been on the podcast before. I have no affiliation with him other than he's great. He's just a great guy. And his video, you use one 35-pound kettlebell, and it'll fucking crush you.

It's incredible. In the beginning, you're doing like, this is easy. I can fucking do this all day long. 30 seconds later, you're like, oh, this is going to be a problem. And then four minutes later, you're like, fuck. The next day, you barely walk. It's incredible. Because you're using your whole body, right?

You're using your whole body. And it's a cardio workout. Yeah. But it's a strength-producing workout, too. And the thing about things like kettlebells are, they strengthen everything. It strengthens your stabilizing muscles, your balance, all your joints. All that stuff all works together because it's all working together as one unit. You're not just bench pressing or curling.

You're doing something where the whole body is involved in the exercise. They could clip that and make that the commercial right there. I love them. I love them. It's my primary means of working out. If you could tell me I could only have two pieces of equipment, I would say I want a 50 pound kettlebell and a chin up bar. That's all I want. I'll be good with that. And an ice bath, baby. And an ice bath. Yeah. You've been doing good with that. Up to 20, you did 20 minutes? Yeah. I'm not doing that again. I had a headache all day yesterday.

The day before I did it. When did I do it? I didn't do it yesterday, right? I did it the day before. I did it Monday. All day Tuesday, I had a headache and I was like, damn, what if I die? Yeah. No. I did it the day before. I did it Monday. All day Tuesday I had a headache, and I was like, damn, what if I die? Yeah.

Because then when people were sending me things about hypothermia, and you get hypothermia in that temperature after like 15 minutes. Yeah, dude, I could have told you it probably wasn't safe just because of your nips. Your nips were going like, take me out of here. They went like that immediately, though. I have very sensitive nipples. They're very excitable. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know.

Your nipples look like those rock climbing things. When you're in wrestling class. It's pull-up water. Yeah, they were cold. Yeah, it's fucking cold. It's a ridiculous thing. I just wanted to see how far I could push it. 20 minutes is impressive.

It's stupid. It's not. It's stupid. Yeah. It's not wise. Well, yeah, I mean, you do that, though. I was thinking of going longer. I was going to go to 25. Wow. But I was going to go stop. Yeah. It's not wise. Well, yeah. I mean, you do that, though. I was thinking of going longer. I was going to go to 25.

Wow. But I was going to go stop. Yeah. Just stop. Just stay safe. Stay alive. I remember last time when I did that show with you at the Vulcan down here, and you just climbed up the side of the building.

Oh, yeah. Remember you saw the ladder, and you're like, this ladder's dangerous. Someone could just climb right up here. And then you're like, let me check it out. You just jumped up and climbed it. I was like, that's not safe. Nope. No, that wasn't safe.

Yeah, but I would be fine. I would've just, I would've been fine. There was a truck there, I would've fallen on the truck. Nice, yeah. All right. Well, I'm glad you had it thought out. I thought it through. Yeah, you thought it through.

Yeah, I don't think there was a mattress on the truck though. That. Yeah. It's not that far. Yeah, but you did, you climbed up the building in like seconds. Like it was like far. Yeah, but you did. You climbed up the building in like seconds. Like it was like you were doing like an obstacle course. It almost felt like I was on American Ninja Warrior or something.

Well, it wasn't that hard. It's just a ladder. It's very difficult, I think, to jump up and do that. Yeah. I don't think me or Jamie could have done that. I can't do one pull-up. Jamie could do it. No, I don't think so.

Dude, he scaled it. He was doing parkour. It looked like parkour. Jamie could do it. I don't think so. Dude, he scaled it. Like, he scaled it. He was doing parkour. It looked like parkour. We've watched a lot of parkour on this show. That was definitely not parkour. That was like a 53-year-old guy who could do some chin-ups. I guess so, yeah.

It was still pretty impressive and dangerous. Yeah, it's definitely dangerous a little bit. But you've got to have a little danger in your life. You can't be just playing it safe all the time. Yeah. It's not healthy. Yeah yeah it's just not wise yeah but i have yeah i'm a guy with anxiety so i you know the best way to get over anxiety do dangerous shit i thought you were gonna say zinc magnesium on it magnesium what's the best way uh i think doing difficult things challenging yourself making yourself more resilient, mentally resilient. That's just my thoughts on it.

CBD is good for anxiety too. That's proven. Some people think that anxiety is connected to a lack of rigorous exercise. Some people think it's connected to inflammation. I mean, there's a lot of thoughts on that. And I think the problem with anybody giving anyone a diagnosis is each human being has an individual level of anxiety that's impossible to determine. Like, I could weigh you, and I know how much you weigh. I can't weigh your anxiety. You know what I mean? It's like you say, hey, doctor, I'm fucking anxious.

I have all this anxiety. I'm freaking out. Doctor doesn't know what that means. Is your anxiety legitimate? Maybe someone's trying to kill you. Maybe you should be anxious. Or maybe you're just fucking really chemically imbalanced. Maybe you could alleviate that with exercise.

Or maybe you can't. Maybe you need medication. So no one really knows you other than you. Right. Right. so no one really knows you other than you. Right, right. I guess the only thing,

they start to get a sense of your level of anxiety if you start saying, like, the massage's out to get me. Right. Yeah. If you start saying, I'm Queen Elizabeth reincarnated. Yeah, I come from alien DNA. Yeah, stuff like that. They visit me regularly. Imagine if you did.

Imagine if you really were an alien hybrid and nobody wanted to listen and you're like, I'm telling you guys. That. That would be hilarious. That would be something that the aliens would do just for entertainment. Well, it would be really hard to convince someone of anything extraordinary. Really hard to convince someone that you're involved in anything that's really off the deep end crazy. Right. It's much easier to convince people of stupid stuff. Oh, yeah. People love that.

If you have a little charisma, like charisma goes a long way, dude. It's like that Quentin Tarantino from that movie. He's like, personality goes a long way. Like you look at every despot in history, not one of them was a bore. Right. You can't get a lot of people.

They have a lot in common with stand-up comics. They get up there, control the crowd, bullshit, lie, like we do. Well, how about Hitler? Hitler was crushed. He was crushed. I would watch those videos. I don't even speak German, but you get goosebumps and you find yourself. You're just like, whatever he's saying, I'm on board.

Well, the thing about Hitler. He means it. He does mean it, and he's enhanced. He's on cocaine. He's on testosterone. He's on board. Well, the thing about Hitler. He means it. He does mean it, and he's enhanced. He's on cocaine. He's on testosterone. He's on meth. He's on a gang of different things. Ponser chocolate, I think they called it, right?

Is that what they called it? Well, it was like chocolate. It was meth and chocolate. And they called it Ponser chocolate because they would give it to the guys in the Ponser tanks. Oh. And so those dudes were just They were lit I don't think you can go to war without being lit right

Well it's probably not wise If you're definitely going to go to war Wouldn't you want to be on meth Absolutely I mean if 100% The only thing I would think is maybe you would make decisions That wouldn't be intelligent You wouldn't make wise choices.

You would just be a berserker. Right. You'd be like, you think you see Bugs Bunny and you'd just be shooting. Yeah, you'd be tripping. We've talked about it on the podcast before, but there was a time when Hitler went to visit Mussolini because Mussolini was thinking of pulling Italy out of the war. And Hitler apparently, he was exhausted before this. Do we ever resolve who told us that story? Someone told us a story, then we researched it.

We found the time. Yeah, I remember I did. I found the article where it said it. Right. Not that, but who told us about it? I don't remember. I found the podcast when we found out about it. It was with Brian Moses,

but I don't know if he's the one who told us about it. I don't think so. I think we were talking about it to Moses, but I think someone else had told, maybe I'm wrong. Before we get too far, the Ponser Chocolat thing might not be real. Really? I just said the company that made it, I guess,

is a fake image of supposed Ponser Chocolat in combination with their trademark. It might have been just with this company's lettering, but they said it was not real. So they would put, allegedly they would put meth in chocolate, right? Yeah, there was something else I just found that had a different name, but then I found what you said.

It might just be what you were saying, that that word might not be real, but they did put some drug in chocolate. Panzer Chocolat. Yeah, it says, however, this Panzer Chocolat never existed. Zotter distances itself with all clarity from this brand and reputation, damaging misrepresentation, which establishes a non-existing connection between our company, founded in 1999. Oh, that's different. And the Nazi regime.

This is like, I guess, a company that's saying like, hey. No, that's what I was trying to say. The actual chocolate drug probably did exist, but the thing with- They didn't call it Ponser chocolate. Oh, it's the company Zotter. See what I'm saying? Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah, Zotter has been refuting it because they're the company that started in 1999.

But a lot of fucking companies started during Nazi Germany, right? BMW. Audi. Audi. Did you ever see Hitler's race car? Hitler had an Audi race car. Pretty fucking dope. Really?

Looked like a cigar. Like an old school, like a cigar with wheels poking out the side. Right. You ever see it? I don't think I have. I think it was, I think it was, it either went for auction or something happened a few years back where it's a pretty dope looking car. You got to think like for 1940, like if you saw that thing in 1940, it would be the shit.

Right. You know? Well, you'd think the Fuhrer would have the, he'd have the top model. It'd be weird if he rolled around in a Volkswagen. I see the same car with a Mercedes logo and an Audi logo. Oh, yeah? Unless someone's photoshopping stuff. I mean, that is a lit mobile right there.

That says 12 million, but it has an Audi logo. Yeah. Wow. Look how pretty it is. Germans can make cars, man. Oh, fuck yeah, they can. Look at that thing. That's so pretty. there that says 12 million but that's the audi logo yeah wow look how pretty it is germans can make cars man oh fuck yeah they can look at that thing that's so pretty it is and that's uh from what year is that hitler's racing car is there a good side profile of it jamie so there's one wow look at that thing rare nazi era race car on display look how fucking pretty that is that is nice

if you're driving down the 405 with that bad boy yeah look at that right there wow the most expensive car ever hitler's auto union on the auction blog and that's got the audi logo on it so that was his was that his particular like if you sniff the seat you're sniffing where his ass was that's very that's a little Yeah. Um, no, I don't think so I think he just sponsored You know, he sponsored race cars, you know, they sponsored athletes for the Olympics. They sponsored all that shit You ever see that photo of him in the in the stands at the Olympics? Oh, yeah, he's like tripping balls video of it tripping balls like a orthodox Jew at the well, just tweaking

Yeah tweaking. Yeah. Tweaking hard. That girl, that amazing gymnast who everybody's shitting on. Simone Biles. Yeah, because she just bailed on the Olympics. She's like, I can't take it anymore. I was just reading that she regularly takes ADHD medication. And they said that she can no longer take it because in Japan, you can't take this stuff.

She takes Ritalin. Find out if this is true. Because if that is the case, they said that during the last Olympics, I guess 2016, she took this stuff and she won a bunch of gold medals. Yeah. And now, because she's regularly on this. Right. This is her medication.

And so they're saying she can't because- Japan. Japan. Japan, it's illegal to take, whether it's Adderall or Ritalin. I think it's illegal to take those in Japan. So weird. That's what I was reading today. How cultures have their different-

Yeah. I mean, you could buy panties in a vending machine, but you can't take Ritalin? Well, I think they're very sensitive to amphetamines because amphetamines and methamphetamines were the reason why the kamikazes were willing to fucking fly their planes right into boats. Like...

Fucking gritting their teeth the whole way. Boom. That's why Lexus probably does so well because if you mess up at the factory, you have to walk off a plank because of honor. They're in honor. Really? I don't know if that's true.

They don't fuck. I've had three Lexuses in my life. They never break. They're so good. They're so good. They're the best cars. This is from the last Olympics. Okay. Simone Biles addresses leaked medical records and ADHD misconceptions.

Okay, Simone Biles addresses leaked medical records and ADHD misconceptions. U.S. gymnast superstar Simone Biles was in a different kind of spotlight Tuesday after Russian hackers circulated confidential medical reports in the World Anti-Doping Agency database that showed her use of methylphenidate, a stimulant used to treat ADHD. Biles, 19, was forced to publicly address her ADHD and her approval of the use of medication after a leak. I have ADHD and I've taken medicine for it since I was a kid. Please know I believe in a clean sport.

I've always followed the rules. We'll continue to do so as far as play is critical to, as fair play is critical to sport and is very important to me. So she's been on this medication for a long time. to me. So she's been on this medication for a long time, but see if you can find that an article that says she was not allowed to take this ADHD medication in Japan, because that's what they were saying. They were saying that during this Olympics, they told her she has to get off of it. If that's the case, that would greatly contribute to her anxiety and her mental problems that she's having imagine if you're on a medication for less at least five years right she's been on since uh

2016 and then all of a sudden they tell you can't be on it anymore and you have to compete in the olympics yeah and you're used to being on this medication yeah no fuck that'll that'll cause you some strife but this could be fishy. Like they're saying they treat it for ADHD, but what if this is like a drug that makes them like super focused? Well, it does make you super focused. It's super focused. I'm sure it does. I mean, that's why they say pitchers can't take it.

Right. Like pitchers want to take Adderall. Right. Yeah. And the pitchers used to take Greenies, which were basically like some sort of- Amphetamines. Amphetamines. Amphetamines. So this could be a similar kind of scandal where the Russian hackers, freaking Russians,

the Russians and the Chinese are just like, they're beating us online, dude. They're like Iago and Othello, and they're just kind of manipulating us and hacking our shit. They are. You see that video of Hunter Biden doing cracks? Yes. Someone hacked that. How'd they get that?

I don't know, but it was one of the funniest when she's going, are you there? And he's just going. I watched it over and over again and just laughed. Well, what's crazy is Joe Biden was one of the people that made sure that the laws went through that treated people very differently for crack than they did for cocaine. treated people very differently for crack than they did for cocaine. I mean, that has been, if you want to talk about, if you want to see clear evidence of racism in prosecutions, it's the difference between how they treat cocaine arrests versus how they treat crack arrests. And crack, if you talk to Dr. Carl Hart from fucking Columbia, who's a brilliant guy, he'll

tell you that crack is cocaine. Right. It's just a cheaper version of it. It's just about the way it's processed and the way it's made. But essentially the psychoactive chemical is the same. For sure. And I think the drug crimes, really you see the systematic oppression of black people in drug crimes.

It's like, yeah, white guy's doing cocaine. Exactly. But like, yeah, I mean, black guy's got a bag of marijuana. He goes away for 15 years or whatever. That's been total injustice in our country. Meanwhile, his fucking son smoked crack. Kid smokes crack. I mean, he's got a couple bucks.

He parties, dude, yeah. He's got money. He's got a taste. Once you develop, it's like once once you experience 100 pure grape juice it's delicious but if you were raised on grape drink you love that grape drink it's a different flavor it's different flavor he loves that grape drink drug yeah because that's basically like it's kind of like a cheaper form of the real thing is a cheaper form of the real thing. It's a cheaper form of the real thing, and I bet part of it is being naughty. Yeah.

Hunter Biden likes to be naughty. He's a naughty boy. He's a naughty kid. Right? He's naughty. His dad was the vice president, and he's just being naughty. Yeah. You know?

He's eating hookers' assholes and smoking crack and getting wild, getting foot jobs. He's fun. I mean, he's a fun kid. I'd rather hang out with him. I tried to get him on the podcast. Yeah. I tried to get him on the podcast. tell him you said crack but here's the thing is like they they asked for him to be on the podcast first and i think i was like i get the fuck out of here with

that and then as time went on i was like i think one day i was really high and then i had this epiphany like why wouldn't i have him on like he's just a man yeah not only that he's like everybody's mad at him i'm not mad at him and i'm not a mean guy like if i had him on the podcast i would be nice to him i don't know what it's like to be born a son of a a wealthy famous politician who happened to be the vice president united states who also drafted the 1994 sweeping crime bill i don't know who what the fuck that would be like. It'd be weird. It's a weird life, man. And I'd probably get naughty too. But he seems to have pulled his shit together and he wrote a book about it. And everybody wants to

prosecute him and attack him and all this shit. But what has he done? He's just done regular crazy shit that a lot of our comic friends have done. I have no problem with that guy. The idea that we should hate him because his dad is the vice president and now the president. Why? I don't give a fuck. Yeah. He's got no power or anything like that. He's just a guy who likes to get wild. He likes to get wild. Yeah.

How many guys like that do we know? A lot of guys. In our world? Yeah. I mean, I give him more, a lot of guys. I don't even know guys who smoke crack anymore. I mean, he's like a throwback. He's like a- Well, one of my best friends was a serious crackhead. Yeah. Yeah. When I lived in New York, he's dead now. But one of my best friends, a serious crackhead. Yeah? Yeah, when I lived in New York. He's dead now. But one of my best friends. He was, at the time, my best friend. But one of my best friends ever. If I had to make a list of like 20 of my all-time best friends, my friend Johnny B. He would be right up there.

He was fucking amazing. He was an amazing guy. But he was a drug addict. And he was wild. Yeah. Just a wild dude. And he would always have yeah I dropped him off places sometimes I'd have him I'd bring him to go cop we pick up drugs

Then I'd have to take him to a liquor store so he could buy 40 ounces to take the edge off because he was so He was so fucked up on crack. That sounds very like early 90s 80s. Just crack 40s. Yeah exactly It was early 90s. Yeah, a little Brand Newbian playing in the background. Yeah. Yeah, Cool G Rap. Cool G Rap, yeah. The Hill Street Blues. Yeah, you lose because you got the Hill Street Blues.

Those guys could rhyme, dude. Fuck, dude, Cool G Rap is, to this day, in my opinion, one of the most underrated rappers of all time. He's one of the all-time greats. Without a doubt. Cock blocking, that song, Cock Blocking. Without a doubt. Cock-blockin', that song Cock-blockin'. Without a doubt. If you listen to Ill Street Blues, you listen to the lyrics of Ill Street Blues. Amazing. Amazing. Yeah. Rakim.

Oh, Jesus. Eric B and Rakim? Oh, my God. Just lyricists, Big L, that whole era. It might have peaked. I'm telling you, there's no lyricists as good as those guys. Maybe Eminem. Nas. Nas is the GOAT. Nas is great.

Yeah, but Nas is from back then. He is from back then, but he's still doing it right now. Nas, in my opinion, is the GOAT. Of lyrics, I don't think anybody can touch him. I think he's number one. He's my all-time favorite lyricist. He makes songs backwards. Yeah.

Right? That one song, was it Rewind? What was that one song? Was it Rewind? That he did backwards? Yeah, he told the whole story backwards. Yeah, who the fuck does that? Nas. Nas does that. Yeah. I mean his rhymes are meticulous They're fantastic. Totally. You never hear like a Nas lyric where you go, that one's a little sketchy Yeah, they're all amazing. He's a real artist. He's a real artist. Artistry with it. Back then, hip hop was incredible. Like, everything was artistic, even the performance.

Like, the background dancers, break dancing, like the synchronized break dancing, and the beatboxing, the DJing. Now it's just club music. Those guys must hate mumble rap. Hate it. And just how rich those guys are. Like, I saw, I think I saw like Sadat x on the train uh one day and i was like i mean those guys still tour make money they go to japan japanese can't get enough of hip-hop they love it oh they love it they love break dancing over there love hip-hop they love break dancing

they love black so that korea korea loves break dancing yeah have you ever followed stance elements on instagram no stance elements is this hip-hop page uh it's breakdancing page on um on instagram and what they're doing right now with hip-hop with breakdancing rather is it doesn't even make sense like the physical feats of spectacular coordination and strength that these fucking people can do now they're like forget about gymnastics right really breakdancing should be in the fucking olympics yeah do you what does that dude's name pocket b-boy pocket Kim what the fuck is his name how do you say his name this is kid dude and he he defies gravity like it doesn't make sense b--Boy Pocket Kim? Yeah, B-Boy Pocket.

His name is Ji-Ju Kim. He is fucking wild, dude. When you see him move around, you cannot believe the kind of shit this guy can do with his body. It's all

breakdancing. It's all B-Boys. This is very simple. He's all b-boys. I picked something too simple here. This is very simple. He's just hanging out with these ladies. You got to go to that one. He's spinning on his fucking head. Look at this.

That's like you pulled up my Mauritius clip when you pulled up a promo. Look at this. Look at this. Should I be fast? That's crazy. Dude, watch that. Look at what he's doing on his head. Yeah.

Watch how he brings his legs together. He's spitting like a top on the top of his head. He's like an electronic screwdriver. It doesn't even make sense. Yeah. And that's nothing compared to some of the other shit that he could do. Yeah. He does, what do they call that, Jamie?

He's like, watch that one. He's just showing himself warming up. He might be selling pants here, I think. Is he? Yeah. I mean, Asians, though, they can do this stuff, man. Well, so can a lot of other people, dude. I know, but have you seen Ocean's Eleven, dude?

The kid in Ocean's Eleven could fit in a suitcase. Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. They could turn invisible. I want to see a really impressive one, though. Let's see if this is one of them. Okay, here it is. Look at the shit this guy can do. Let's see if this is one of them. This guy, okay, here it is. Look at the shit this guy can do.

It's crazy. And these people that are involved in this, they keep pushing the envelope of breakdancing. And now there's a couple of friends that I have that are in the jujitsu world. Richie Martinez and Gio Martinez, they started out as breakdancers. And I remember when they first came over to-jitsu world. Richie Martinez and Gio Martinez, they started out as break dancers. And I remember when they first came over

to jiu-jitsu, Eddie Bravo, my instructor, was like, dude, there's something going on. Like, break dancing is next level. Like, the strength that these guys have, the coordination they have, and the ability to control their body is unprecedented. So he started literally

practicing break dancing moves as a method of getting better at jiu-jitsu. That's like Herschel Walker. He did ballet. Yes. Yeah, exactly. It makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense. And it's interesting to see it evolve where now like athletes, like athletics, where it's just more faster, more powerful, more insane.

Yep. Jiu-jitsu is evolving too, right? Oh, yeah. Like MMA, those leg kicks, that's the new thing. The low leg kicks. The low leg kicks are like, dudes are breaking their legs now. I know, it's crazy. So then maybe humans will evolve.

They'll start, you know how those Thai boxers kick trees and stuff? Maybe now MMA guys are going to start, until their legs are like guns, just like steel. Because they're just snapping. Guys' legs, how many times recently it's been like three, four guys have just until their legs are like guns like just like steel because they're just snapping like guys legs how many times recently it's been like three four guys have just snapped their legs it's been a few connor apparently went into that fight with a cracked shin already he uh he had gotten a stress fracture in his shin and got it scanned and there's even photographs of the scans and was putting pads on it but i think what he was trying to do was he was trying to spar during camp with no shin and instep pads that's what i've been told i don't know if it's true

whenever anything happens you'll get like a bunch of text messages from guys you know i know a guy from connor's camp says connor was sparring with no shin pads like i don't know if that's true but that's a rare thing for someone to spar like but he was so hell-bent on destroying Dustin Poirier, he might have done something like that. Right. And then it wound up costing him. Because you could see his leg. It's clearly there's something wrong with it going in.

Your leg doesn't just break like that. Right. You know, like when you see Chris Weidman's leg break, it's real clear. Right. He throws it. It catches right where Uriah Hall hall shin meets the top of the knee or the bottom of the knee it's a very rigid spot and that something has to give out and it was the shin that's makes sense right the connor one didn't really make sense more of an ankle more

lower didn't make sense the way it broke like it there was something wrong with it i would imagine already one kick where he kind of checked on the elbow, it was that spot. Yeah, but even then, it's very rare that that's going to make your instep or your shin break like that. Right. You know, what's interesting is not only does sports evolve, but your tolerance evolves for what you can look at. Because now I've become such a big MMA fan, and now I've seen so many of those breaks. At first, you can't look at them. You're like, oh, my, I can't look at him. Now you get used to it.

I'm like, I can watch a replay. Oh, dude, you a replay oh dude i can watch him now yeah i've seen it in person right so i've called like thousands of fights in person yeah so i've seen i've probably seen more people get up than most of the people that have ever lived right if you had a like a if you had a history of people that have seen people get the beaten out of them well i gotta be high on that list you're on the list but also like there. I got to be high on that list. You're high on that list, but also WorldStarHipHop has done a good job for all of us. It has, but there's a difference between watching something on a screen and seeing something in real life. You're right. You get really accustomed to seeing injuries in real life.

I'm very accustomed to injuries in a weird way. I love your outfit. Is that the same outfit or you just got a bunch of black shirts? David August. I have tailored suits that are made by David August. It's a good look, yeah. To fit my fucking chimp body. I have to get things that fit me right.

Yeah, they make beautiful clothes. You look like a priest after work. All that shit. When you see Conor McGregor wearing a suit walking into the arena, that's David August. He makes impeccable suits. It's a good look. I started getting into wearing them on stage. When I do arenas, I wear suits. I saw you with Ch suits. It's a good look. I started getting into wearing them on stage. When I do arenas, I wear suits.

I saw you with Chappelle. You had a suit on. If you feel like it's special. Right. Like I wear these beautiful jackets and everything fits good. You feel like something extra when you're doing these big ass crowds. Yeah. I like it.

Burr's got that great joke. He's like, I know why people are evil. I don't know why people are evil. Because every time, I don't know what the joke is, but when I put the suit on, I could feel the evil kind of just like, I want to take over. You just feel like, I want to take over some shit. Yeah. There's a feeling of preparedness. You're prepared for this.

This is like, I am a professional. Right. I am here. I've done the work. Look at this clothes. I've got clothes that are designed to fit me. They've been fit and cut and sewed and they fit my form perfectly. It feels nice.

You look good too. You get used to that. Is there a sound when it cracks? When you hear the bone? like you can hear it? With Chris Weidman, you heard the crack. But I didn't know if it was his shin cracking or just a really hard kick that hit the thigh. It was hard to tell because, you know, I'm not hearing it completely unfiltered. I'm hearing it in my ear, and I'm hearing it through a microphone,

and they're inside that cage, and they're, at the the time they're probably like 30 or 40 feet from me. So it's hard to say what you're hearing. You know you're hearing an impact, but with Chris, the kick was so powerful. He threw full blast, like the first kick. He just decided he was going to fuck Uriah Hall's leg up with the first kick he threw. So first kick he threw, he throws full power, which you rarely do. Most guys, they're like, if you watch a guy like Colby Covington, Colby Covington is one of the top welterweights, is known for his cardio.

And I had a conversation about this. I go, when you're throwing, I go, you're not throwing 100%. He goes, no, like 60, like 60, 70% something. He goes, somewhere in that range. He goes, every now and then I'll hit him with 100. He goes, well, most of the time it's like 60, 70%. And it's one of the reasons why the guy has an endless gas tank. Because he's never like full blasting it.

Chris Weidman went full blast with that kick right out of the gate. You could tell. Also, Uriah Hall is like built like a brick shithouse. He is. And he's also like super technical yeah you know it's it's hard to catch him clean with something like first shot he's you know he's very poised and ready yeah colby covington is entertaining he's gonna fight mass square garden for the title i'm excited about that fight can i go yes yeah yes yeah yes please

thank you yes i love that yeah that. Yeah. Exciting. Yeah. That first fight was great, and people were like, I can't believe you're fighting again. It's like, dude, that first fight was great. It was amazing. It was an amazing fight. It was amazing. It was an amazing fight.

Yeah. It was amazing. I mean, look, dude had his fucking jaw broken and still fought another round and a half. And he's been kicking ass since. Yeah. Oh, fuck yeah. Well, listen, Kamaru Usman, the guy he lost to, is my opinion. If there's George St. Pierre's number one, he's number two.

And the only reason why you don't know who would win out of the two of them is because they haven't fought. Right. But in terms of greatest welterweights of all time, it's tough to fuck with Kamaru Usman. He's right up there at the top of the food chain. He doesn't have the credentials in terms of the overall volume of impressive victories as a champion because he's only defended. He won the title versus Tyron Woodley. He beat Colby Covington.

He beat Gilbert Burns. He beat Jorge Masvidal. He KO'd Masvidal in the rematch. Those are the big fights, and they're great, impressive fights. But George's legacy is so long. I mean, George's legacy is just... But George, in all fairness, I don't think he fought the same caliber of competition as Usman has.

Is that because the athletes evolved? Exactly. And it's no knock on George. George is still one of the all-time greats. And George, when he came back and stopped Michael Bisping and choked him unconscious, you've got to say, well, Jesus Christ, George is probably even better than he was when he was the champion. Right. Because Bisping is fantastic.

But I think that the level of competition that Usman has faced is arguably better. It's such an interesting thing to watch a sport evolve so quickly, kind of like tennis. I remember it was serving volleyers, and then guys from the, you know, the technology changes, the training changes. And with MMA, there's so many different disciplines that you don't know which one's gonna start having a bigger impact, and then all the guys are gonna,

and now it's the leg kicks, it seems. You see guys just get chopped down with those leg kicks, and then it's, Oh, you know that they have no power and they can't throw. They can't even move. They can't move. Right. And like, you can see the belts. You can see it like those red belts on your leg. I used to think that those legs didn't do those leg kicks. Didn't do anything. Has anybody ever leg kicked you? No. Do you want to get leg kicked? Only if you do it for America on me. For America? Full throttle. No, I would never do a full throttle. Yeah, no, I'd be dead. I'll give you a tap

just so you could feel it. A Joe Rogan kick in the chest may be what I need to just like get me going. Like a kick start? Dude, you kick hard. I'm not kicking you. No, please don't. But to feel a shin on your thigh, just to feel like a thump, it's illuminating.

You go, oh, God. Because it's like, just do that to your leg. Right. What is this? Who is this? Oh, Fabrizio. That's Fabrizio Verdum. Is that a journalist?

Oh, that's Aaron True. Oh, I talked to Aaron. Aaron was letting a bunch of people kick him. And I told him at one point in time, I go, Aaron, please stop doing that. And that was only 40%. Fabrizio says, only 40%, my friend. You think it's deceptive when you watch it because guys don't react that much.

They just take the kick. Because they're animals. It's because they're animals, right? And their legs are very conditioned. They're accustomed to getting beaten up. They develop these really weird veins all over their legs. Like Kevin Randleman, who was one of the greats, one of the all-time greats, former UFC heavyweight champion, he fought Pedro Hizzo. And Pedro Hizzo is, in my opinion, probably the hardest leg kicker

that ever existed in MMA. He's this big, giant, Brazilian heavyweight, fantastic kicker. He was so good. And he fucked up Randleman's leg he fucked up randy couture's leg so bad that randy said his leg was fucked up for six months after the fight where it was like sore and lumpy and fucked up but random man had these he random man passed away rest in peace but he random man had these huge welts in his legs till the day he died from Pedro Hizzo. His veins had got destroyed from Hizzo kicking him. And so there's photos, if you find Kevin Randleman's leg damaged from Pedro Hizzo, for the rest of his life, he had these fucked up giant garden hose looking varicose veins in his

leg where he got kicked by Pedro Hizzo. Wow. Yeah, like he'll change your legs. Right. Yeah, like he'll change your legs. Right. Like literally, he'll change your legs. That's some ill shit to say to somebody. Bro, Pedro kicks so hard. I'll change your legs.

I was at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu once in the early 1990s, and Pedro was working out, and he was kicking this heavy bag, and everybody was just like, what? He was just stepping up, and he's a big guy, you know, 250 pounds. Just stepping in. Vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom. And you would just imagine what that would be like on your leg. Just chop, chop, chop.

And he, you know, the UFC gave him a giant contract at one point in time because they were convinced that Pedro was going to be the heavyweight champion of the world. And he had knocked out Josh Barnett. He and Randy Couture went to war. Not the actor Josh Barnett. Josh Barnett is the youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion. Ah. He won the title when he was, I want to say he was 24 years old.

I think at the time he was the youngest ever heavyweight, not just heavyweight champion, but he was the youngest ever UFC champion. Yeah. Right on. Still fights. He's still going? Well, that's after the fight, the swelling in his legs.

His legs were all fucked up and swole. It's hard to tell from that picture. They just look like big legs. But Kevin's legs normally were shredded. Right. You would see all the muscle. That's just... See if you could see Kevin's veins.

I tried to find it. Nothing's coming up. Nothing? Oh, I remember this dude. This dude is built, I mean... Randleman? Oh, Randleman was a goddamn tank. Yeah. He's coming up. Nothing? Oh, I remember this dude. This dude is built. I mean. Randleman? Oh, Randleman was a goddamn tank. Yeah.

He was a tank. He was. He fought in like Japan, like a different. Fought for pride. No, he was a spectacular athlete. Yeah, it's not showing it. You'd have to like dig deep into the archives. Do you think the UFC, I know like certain grapplers, like the jiu-jitsu guys.

What's the one guy? He was really, God, I just can't think of his name. Describe what he looks like. Oh, man. He's like, he was Strikeforce. But he's all jiu-jitsu. And like, what's his fucking name? All jiu-jitsu. Roger's his fucking name? All jujitsu.

Roger Gracie? No, not Gracie. Not the original guys. No, that's... Roger fought in Strikeforce. Well, my point is... I'll think of his name, but... Nick Diaz?

No, not the Diaz brothers. But he's in the camp with the Diaz brothers. He's like the... Crone? Jake? Jake Shields. Jake Shields. Jake Shields.

Yeah. So, savage, right? Yeah. As you would say. Amazing. Jake Shields Jake Shields so savage right as you would say but his style is I guess like for fans is a little boring because he doesn't strike that much he goes for submissions but if he gets a hold of you you're fucked

Jake Shields was a monster do you think that the because I know my taste as a viewer is changing like I'm being conditioned to appreciate the jujitsu and grappling more, the Muay Thai. I'm starting, like when it goes to the ground, like you're starting to hear, I think, a less booze. Because I think the watcher is getting more educated, the viewer is getting more educated on like how much tactical skill is going into what's going on. Whereas before it was just like people love seeing strikes. But now my question is that.

Do you think that that'll be as exciting as the striking in MMA as the viewer gets more educated? It is for some. It is for me, obviously. I have a jiu-jitsu background. You know what's going on. Yeah, but I also appreciate people who figure out how to win. I love watching people solve puzzles.

I like watching people figure out how to beat a guy. And if a guy beats a guy with a submission or if a guy beats a guy with a head kick, for me, it's all exciting. It's all very exciting. But I think for the crowd, knockouts are always going to be first. Just human nature. Because it makes more sense to people that don't fight like if you look at the audience if you go to the T-Mobile arena and there's you know what is a T-Mobile see like 18,000 20,000 people there's 20,000 people how many of those people can train how many those people know striking or jujitsu or

how many of those people have ever been kicked? Maybe 4,000, 5,000, right? So for most people, they know what's happening if a guy gets kicked in the face. You get kicked in the face and your head snaps back, you flatline and fall back. Everybody's like, oh, shit! There's an oh, shit moment to knockouts that just don't exist in submissions. Submissions are amazing, but I think you have to kind of appreciate what a guy's doing or a girl's doing in order to be able to really enjoy a submission

the way you enjoy a strike, a knockout. You're right. At starting note, it'd feel exciting when you see a guy get his hooks in and like that battle. Oh, yeah. That battle when he's defending and like he gets one arm.

Oh, yeah. It's like that anticipation. Yeah. No, if a guy can win, it's exciting. It's starting to feel exciting as a viewer. I'm just saying from somebody who doesn't know how to do any of that stuff, as a fan, that stuff is starting to feel more exciting than it used to feel for me. I think so for sure.

Yeah. I think people are getting more educated about the sport, the more fights they watch, and the more they see like, Khabib, for a perfect example. Khabib chokes everybody out, and he's like one of the greatest, no, if not the greatest. There's a real argument that Khabib's the greatest of all time. And again, doesn't have the accolades that Jon Jones has, and I know Jon Jones has one loss on his record, but it's a bullshit loss. It's a disqualification of a fight with Matt Hamill where he was destroying him.

So you can make the argument that Jon Jones is undefeated and I think you should make that argument because nobody really defeated him. Even though he has a loss on his record, no one beat him. Khabib is undefeated. He retired at, was it 29-0?

And dominated everybody. No one was even close. Jon Jones had a couple of split decisions. Reyes. That Reyes fight. Reyes fight was fucking close. Close. Fucking close.

So was the Tiago Santos fight. Right. Fucking close. Close fights. There's no close fights in Khabib's history. There's no close fights. No. Everybody gets fucking mauled.

Yeah. Everybody smash. Send me location. Smash. Send location. My favorite quote was with him with Conor McGregor. He goes, I want to change his face. Change his face.

Change his face. Bro, Khabib was the fucking man. He was the fucking man. And, you know, think about it. He beat Dustin Poirier, submission. Justin Gaethje, submission. Conor McGregor, submission. He submitted all those guys.

Yeah. And nobody cared. They just were excited to watch Khabib fight. It could be because of him. You know, it's like usually it's a certain athlete that does something real well that enlightens people to that aspect of the game. It could be because of him. Because you hear, those crowds were lit.

Like when he was on Conor's back. Oh, yeah. It was like, you could hear it. When he was getting that Poirier fight, too. He gets in his back and, like, you know, you could just, that anticipation of the choke is exciting. And when a guy gets out, that's really exciting. Like when a guy somehow gets out, when, like, the hooks are in and one arm's in, but somehow a guy gets out, that's exciting, too. That thing he did to Conor was so nasty too because he wasn't even under the chin.

It was like a crank, right? It's called a fulcrum choke. Dean Lister explained it. After the fight was over, he did a thing on his Instagram page where he explained the technique. It's not a move that I've ever used. In that position, I've always gone to like there's a move where you pull the neck this way and you pull the body that way.

Like you do what's called a gable grip on the neck and you're pulling the neck this way. And then with your lower legs, you're pulling the body another way. Ow. And you've got a guy like really fucking twisted up and yanked and it's very, very painful. guy like really fucking twisted up and yanked and it's very, very painful. But Khabib, I think Khabib's is even better because Khabib is going across the jaw and then he's putting this forearm, this part right here, behind your back. So as he's gripping, he's got your head in, you know, wrapped up in his arm and then he's got this pressing against your back and he uses that as a lever and he's cranking your

neck. So he's using the elbow as a fulcrum to crank your neck, and you see Conor at the end of the fight. See if you can find the finish. That's medieval. It's medieval. So it wasn't even that he was choked out. He wasn't choking him.

He was just pain. Neck cranking him. Wow. Yeah, he was smashing his neck. He's smashing his neck. But it's not even the greatest submission of all time. The greatest, the most painful neck submission of all time was in one fighting championship. This guy, let me show this one first.

Find Connor submits Khabib, because if you see the way he's doing it, it's very sophisticated. It's very smart. Yeah, here it goes. So he gets on top of him I remember there was like a scramble when he was on all fours right he goes against the wall he's smashing him he's got full mount here he's got one one was like like three-quarter mount but he's basically mounted he could pull that foot out the whole time send location he goes let's talk now let's talk now so he

he gets his back and then whenor tries to scramble to his feet Scooch your head a little bit there No It's a little bit more Conor tries to get to his feet Right there So now he's taking his back And when he takes his back

He gets his arm under Conor tucks his chin See how he tucks his chin But look where his left forearm is. See his left forearm? It's pushing against the back. Yes, yeah. So the choke is not in.

Right. It's on the chin. But the way he's gripping it and the way he's pushing his left forearm against the back of Conor and then yanking on his neck. Go ahead, play it out. Watch. He's just... Oh, he's pulling it back.

Yeah. See, it's using... Wow. It's a fulcrum. It's a fulcrum. So he's yanking him back and pushing the bottom half of his body down? That's not even the worst choke. You want to see the worst choke?

I'm going to show the worst choke. Look up nastiest submission ever won fighting championship. I don't even know who the dude is that did this technique. We'll give him credit after the fight. But he basically got the guy's back and then flattened the guy out on the ground and with his arm under his neck pushed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Watch this.

It's in the top 20 thing, but it's the main thumbnail. It's fucking nasty. Like where you go, this guy might be dead. Like he moves his – he's got like a rear naked choke, but instead of going like rear naked choke where he's sinking in like this, he basically flattens the guy out on his back, and then he pulls his neck forward like this, like all the way. So the guy's neck is like his face is pressed up against.

So he's choking him with his own body almost. He's got his forehead on the center of his chest. Is that called anything or is it just death death? It's called death doesn't have a move called just the dude. It was getting nasty with him It's like a variation of a choke from the back, but he doesn't have any hooks in he just figured out Instead of like the hooks are like you're trying to control the guy's body while you submit from the neck. But what he's doing is he's got the guy flattened out. And then because he has his head trapped, he forces his face forward. It's horrifying.

I want to see this. It's the most horrifying submission I've ever seen. I'm looking. This might not be it, but I think it was. That's it. That's it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead a little further.

I think it was. That's it. That's it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead a little further. Go right before that. No, no. That's not it.

That's a regular one. Yeah, sorry. Is this all of his? It was in the thumbnail, and unfortunately it's not like the number one of 20. Scooch up. I'm trying to find it. Oh, yeah. See, just scroll through.

It's got to be number one. It's not. What? I started at the end. That's why I'm starting to scroll. I took too long just scroll through. It's got to be number one. It's not. What? I started at the end. That's why I'm starting to scroll. I took too long to scroll through. Okay, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Let me see if I can recognize it.

Yeah, I know the picture I'm looking for now. I don't see the guy being flattened out like that. It was horrific, dude. I'm telling you, out of all the thousand people that I've seen get choked unconscious, this was number one. You may be one of the only people on the planet that's seen that many people get choked out. I think there's probably a few jujitsu guys that have seen more people get choked out. But you're up there.

Yeah, I'm in the top 100. Go to the very end. It's got to be number one. How can it not be number one? I know. It's like some guy just doing it doing a regular go back a little I think this is it go back so he's got his arm nope that's not it that's like the end of the video Wow what is this one very similar no that's not it it's it's in it's that picture right there that triangle yeah that's it that's not it. It's that picture right there. Is that triangle chunk?

Yeah, that's it. That's the picture. But it's not. Where is that one? Well, find out who that is. I would think it would just have been right there. Why would they not say that that's number one? How could that...

Wait a minute, what does it say? It said top 20. But if you put your thing in there, you let the video scroll a little bit. Do that back again. It starts showing other parts of the video. 19, number 19. That's it. That's the one I stopped on.

And that's not it? No. Hmm. This could be it because it's a guy in black and white. No, that's a triangle. He's going to get him in an arm bar. That's not it either. We got stuck looking at this now.

Yeah. I guess once you feel that That arm under your neck You need to see it You know it's over Yeah Oh you know what Go to One's Instagram page They have it on their Instagram page

If you go to their Instagram page Let me see Hip hop is dead See now I got Nas stuck in my head Let me see. Hip hop is dead. See, now I got Nas stuck in my head. Yeah. I know they had it on their Instagram page recently. This is like when something's on the tip of your tongue and you can't.

This is driving me fucking crazy. This is like when I was doing Jake Shields. I was like, what's his name? Oh, wait a minute. Hold on. Scroll up a little bit. What's that one on the left-hand side? What's the date of that one? It's fucking crazy. This is like when I was doing Jake Shields. I was like, what's his name? Oh, wait a minute. Hold on. Go, scroll up a little bit. What's that one on the left hand side?

What's the date of that one? Five days ago. Okay. It's, it's somewhere in that range. Fuck. Wait a minute. Scroll up a little. Scroll up a little.

Is that it right there? No, one guy's wearing black, one guy's wearing white shrunks. Okay. Fucking fuck. I'm just looking for that. No, one guy's wearing black, one guy's wearing white shrunks. Okay. Fucking. I'm just looking for that. No, no, no. Fucking fuck, fuck. I know.

I want to go back to the video. God damn it. I'll take your word for it. I try to visualize it. I feel like I can find it. Like, nastiest submission ever. This is the most drawn out moment we've ever had on the podcast. It's like we went to the library and we're looking through microfiche. God damn it.

Yeah, I don't know why it's in the thumbnail and then it's not. That's bad YouTubing. That's gonna be it. Damn it. It's a gangster way to end the fight, though, is take away someone's oxygen like COVID. It's worse than taking someone's oxygen away because the guy basically- I'll find it.

All right. I'll Google it. Jamie's going to find it. It's worse. You want a cigar? Yeah, I just put a snus in, but I'll smoke a cigar. You put a snus in? Yeah.

You do those things? Sweetest snus. Do you like those things? Yeah. Those make me nervous. I do. They don't make me feel good. No?

Cigars make me relaxed. Cigars are great conversation enhancers. Yeah, that's snus stuff that makes me want to... Barf. Yeah. Because you've got to drink down the tobacco juice. I know. It's nasty.

Yeah. You like it? I do love it. Do you smoke cigarettes? Yeah. Well, I stopped stopped and then I started my wife caught me with a coat you know this is how you get caught when she just sent me a picture of the pack she found and then she gave me you know

my daughter's not gonna yeah my wife says the same shit when I get in an ice bath for 20 minutes in the middle of the, I woke up to get up to work out, and she goes, are you okay? Yeah. I'm fine. I feel great. Don't worry about it. Yeah, I mean, that would be a funny way to go, though, just hypothermia. For me?

Yeah. For me, it would be a perfect way to go. Look at that fucking moron. Look at him. Is that a lighter? Mm-hmm. Wow, this is an all-in-one. I think this one's out of juice.

Is it? Yeah. Oh, sorry. Here. Thank you. Fill it up. Son of a bitch. You're fine, Jay?

They have another article where they have the picture in the top on 1FC's website. They have a picture of it. Yeah, that's it. It says, Top 10 Submissions, and it's not listed in the Top 10 Submissions. What? Well... Unless it's one of these they don't have something else of. Terminator guillotine. Isn't that it? This?

What did I say? That's that. Is that it? No, that's a different...that's a guillotine. That's like a guillotine from behind. Seven. It's not in the list? Goga Plata? No.

Goga Plata is your leg. I didn't think it was any of these. Could be this maestro choke, but. It might be just people. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Okay. That's it.

That's it. So let me. So pull up that guy's name. So do you. Yeah, that is it. Ma's it. Okay. That's it. That's it. So let me. So pull up that guy's name. So do you. Yeah. That is it. Maestro Saduev. Yeah.

That's it. That's 100% it. Okay. That's definitely it. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. It's still like.

You fucks. I checked most of these videos. It wasn't in it. I tell you what. You sons of bitches. That is the choke. The way you described it is probably worth the wait. It's not.

It's not worth it. That's it. There you go. That is it worth the wait. It's not. That's it. That is it. Jesus Christ. There it is. That's 100%. Okay, now you're going to see. He's trying to find a G spot. So he catches the choke, right?

But then he turns him the other way. Look at this. Yeah. You got to see it from other angles, though. This is all angles. It'll play it. They'll show it in other angles. Dude, I'm telling you, it is so nasty.

Look at this. Look at this. Look at that right there. He's gonna break his... He's gonna pop his neck off. Yeah, it looks like his head's gonna go flying off into the audience. What is that gentleman's name? Yusup.

Yusup Sadulev. Yusup Sadulev versus Jordan Lucas. Sorry, folks. I'm so sorry that I dragged you through this. If you're in your car, parked, waiting to go to work, going, what the fuck, Rogan? It was worth it, though. I'm sorry. I'll tell you what.

Nasty, right? If there's ever a matchup between a dude named, what was his name? Jordan what? Lucas. Lucas and the other guy's name is Vusnisny. I'm going with the Vusnisny every time. Those dudes are killers. They're in a different world right now.

There's so many assassins from that part of the world that are coming over to either 1FC or the UFC. I mean, the UFC has so many guys from Dagestan that are just dominant. I mean, first of all, you had Khabib. Now you got Islam Makachev. And that other dude who's like lanky, the tall guy. Oh, yeah, Zabit Magomed Sh Makachev. And that other dude who's like lanky, the tall guy. Oh, yeah. Zabit Magomed Shapirov.

Yeah. And then there's a fucking whole boatload of them ready to take over that are next. Yeah. They're assassins, man. They just wrestle with bears and then they get off the plane. He goes, Khabib goes, I'm a mountain man. Yeah. Just saying that.

I'm a mountain man. Yeah. They're scary people, man. I remember when, yeah yeah somebody was like uh i'll fight in the street he's like there's no street here i'm from real mountain yeah from real mountain what is street you know i don't have a street fight yeah i'm from like he was saying it doesn't exist where you're from yeah what is what is street fight street fight where he comes from is like fighting wild animals who have nature strength well those guys from the moment

they're young they're they're just they they're hard men yeah this is just like this is the life that's the path it's combat sports you ever see him play basketball who khabib yes no will harris who is uh well who's got the best footage of that I've seen a few more now where people are like, what the fuck are the rules of this game? Oh, I saw that. I saw that where it was like jail rules, but like Dagestani jail rules where you could kill a guy. Yeah. And they're just like, okay, side out. I got a video of Crow Cop doing it, I think.

They call it MMA basketball. Yeah, Will Harris is the best footer. Will Harris, who does the best MMA documentary footage in all of the sport. He's the best. And Will's been on the podcast before. He does amazing shit. I thought he worked for the UFC at one point in time because they used so much of his footage. But he's an independent guy.

He's fucking phenomenal. And he lived in Dagestan with these guys. I saw that. The guy that did the series on him. Yes. The docu-series. Will's amazing. He's amazing. Well, Will filmed this thing that they do where they play basketball, but they wrestle

with submissions. I saw it, yeah. So they take each other down on the hardwood floor and they get each other in arm bars and if you tap, then they switch to a choke, and then you tap. They keep control of you. It's like, what is this game? I don't know. All I know is I see a pattern in every sport.

You see it in the Olympics now. Do we have any Americans on top of any sport? In basketball right now, it's like Giannis. Giannis is the best player. Then in the UFC, it's like all Nigerians are dominating. Well, there's still some great fighters that are Americans. There's great fighters from all nationalities, but there's no denying that in MMA there's a lot of Dagestanis.

Follow Will Harris Productions on Instagram. That's his Instagram. And his YouTube page is fucking amazing. Anatomy of a Fighter. He does a lot of great footage. I mean, he gets right in there with these guys and he embeds himself in their camp. So you get the kind of footage that's really not possible if you just have like, you know, cursory coverage where you're just like, okay guys, the next couple hours, you're going

to film me working out. No, he's like there with them all the time. And he's curating the best footage. So there's no dribbling the ball. They're trying to shoot the ball, but they're wrestling each other. Look, they're throwing each other to the ground. There's no fouls. And then they have a mat over near where the fucking hoop is. There's a wrestling mat.

So occasionally they take each other down. They just decide to start wrestling on the mat. It's like madness. It's a pretty. It's hilarious. It's a pretty nice shot by Khabib right there. Curry range. Not a bad shot, but there's no dribbling. Yeah, no dribbling.

Which is funny. It's more like rugby. Yeah, it's more like a basketball rugby. Yeah, this is like rugby right here. Yeah, look at this. Guys are blocking. Yeah. It's very, but they're doing it.

The crazy thing is they're doing it on hardwood. Yeah. You know, they're not doing this on a wrestling mat. Now, are we sure that he didn't just do this because he knew it was an American journalist and they wanted to do a diplomat? Hey, we play basketball, too. No, no, no, no, no. They do that constantly, man.

They do it all the time. There's a lot of footage of it. But I think about it. It's like Yanis and what's his name from slovenia is like the best everything is like the rest of the world has is beating us in everything like look now like our gymnasts are retiring because they're sad i don't see this is what everybody's saying about that girl i think a thing about that girl is her adhd medication the deepest i could find was people discussing that and that so then i outside looked up Ritalin in Japan.

Turns out that currently the only drug used to treat ADHD that is legal in Japan is called Concerta. While Ritalin is available in Japan to treat sleep disorders, it's not prescribed for ADHD. Imagine they're giving you speed for sleep disorders. Yeah. What? But it's not illegal though, right? Ritalin. It says it's then going in.

It says it's, you maybe could get it. It's very hard to get. And then she could be not on it because it was hard for her to get a TUE because Japan rules Trump. Olympic rules or something. I think that's what's going on.

If you go to, I believe it was Chris Bell's Instagram page. I saw him tweet it, but. I think he'd go to Big Strong Fast. He, on Instagram. I think Chris Bell's Instagram page. I saw him tweet it. I think he go to Big Strong Fast on Instagram. I think Chris Bell covered it, and he's discussing what exactly is happening with that girl. So that's something that people needed to take it.

So many people are shitting on her online and calling her a coward. It's disgusting. You have no idea what's going on in her head. Is she supposed to play when she's suicidal? Is she supposed to play when she's freaking? Is she supposed to play when she's freaking out? Is she supposed to do gymnastics when she's literally losing her mind? When people get off

prescription drugs, like Jordan Peterson was fucked up for a whole year when he was trying to get off benzodiazepine. I don't know what it's like to get off Ritalin, but I would imagine it's not fun. Right. Yeah, it's withdrawal. Who knows? The stuff that that. Right. But I would imagine it's not fun. Right. Right. Yeah, it's withdrawal.

Yeah. And who knows? The stuff that that girl has done. I mean, she's the goat by a lot. I mean, she does stuff that's like superhuman. Here it goes. Simone Biles, ADHD meds among common drugs banned from Olympics. So Simone Biles has revealed that she has ADHD and takes Ritalin for it.

Correction, it was first told. Adderall in the article has looked it up. It's Ritalin, very similar. He says, sorry. She received a therapeutic use exemption for it in 2016 and took home four gold medals in Rio. Fast forward to Tokyo 2020 and Ritalin and Adderall is 100% illegal in Japan under all circumstances, including therapeutic use.

It is unfortunate because I'm sure we'd love to see her compete, but it makes sense that she couldn't focus. That does make sense. See, now, why are we not hearing this? Why am I getting this only from Chris Bell, who, by the way, made an incredible documentary, Bigger, Stronger, Faster, which is a documentary on steroids,

and then another documentary, Prescription Thugs, which is about prescription medication. He does great shit. So I guess at this point it's either that's true or what Jamie pulled up before is true like we're not sure cuz Jamie saying the article he wrote is that it's not illegal I bet it might be illegal for competition right might be illegal as a therapeutic use exemption might not be able to get one of those right whatever Chris is saying but it's uh it's a complicated story it's not i mean this girl's she won four gold medals in rio what do you she's not she's a she's not a chicken

she's the best of all time by by all people's accounts aren't they changing rules because she can do shit that other people can't do she's right yeah she like flies through the air it's incredible there was a video that was uh describing how they're literally like altering the rules to make what she does less impressive. Right. Or less, scores less, whatever. Right. I don't follow gymnastics. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, most people don't until the Olympics. I mean, that's the thing about Olympic sports. Like these people, that must be a weird come down. Like, you know, the whole world's watching and then've got to go back to working at Panera Bread. That's weird. Yeah. You're just a swimmer or like a shot put guy. You win a gold, and then you're just back to handing out buzzers.

How much money do you make for a shot put? I don't think they make anything from the Olympics. You win the Olympics, and then what? You just teach shot put to people that also can't make money i uh i have this new sports podcast um and uh you do what's it called uh undefeated i'm sorry it's not called undefeated you're lying sorry i had a little no it's called unleashed i'm sorry it's called unleash for uh for g uh bad mgm with me and uh olivia harlandDecker, and she's a sports journalist. But we interviewed Kerry Strunk last week. Who's that?

She's the one in 96 who, like, her ankle was done, she limped in, and then she needed a certain score for them to win gold, and then they won gold. She did it with a bad ankle? A lot of people are comparing the situation. Oh, saying that that girl gutted it out? Yeah. She was forced to by her coach, and then they're going to like, that's the whole bad coaching

situation with gymnastics. Yeah. We interviewed her. She was all business. It wasn't a good interview? Huh? Wasn't fun? I'm just saying it was all business.

What do you mean? It was just a serious kind of interview. Was it live in person? No, Zoom. That's a problem. It's always weird in Zoom. Zoom's too disconnected. It was all business. What do you mean? It was just a serious kind of interview. Was it live in person? No, Zoom. That's the problem. It's always weird in Zoom. Zoom's too disconnected.

It was great. But she was saying that... Have you seen Athlete A, the documentary? No. Dude, it's called Athlete A? It's disturbing. These girls are abused like that that dude nasser like um molested like for 20 years with impunity that's that's the doctor doctor from i believe michigan's he's on team usa and again it was like this um you know bureaucratic cover-up. Like, there was complaints about him, and they covered it up.

They, you know, they overlooked these allegations. And it was like, the dude was like a hardcore pedophile who was, like, molesting these women. I mean, these girls. I mean, a lot of them are girls. He's like, they're girls. I mean, they're young children. He was, like, inserting fingers in their anus

and in their vaginas for years and years and years and years and years. And, you know, Simone Biles was part of that. All these girls testified against him. And that was before. Kerry Strunk's era didn't really deal with that. But they dealt with the Corollis who were like these. What are they, Romanian or something like the husband wife coaches? And they were like these, what are they, Romanian or something? Like the husband-wife coaches. And they were like abusive and brutal.

But when we interviewed Carrie, she was like, you know, it was like, she didn't seem like she was bothered by it. But these girls go through a lot, dude. They sacrifice a lot. And they are like pushed and abused with their bodies. And so Carrie Strong, the documentary portrays that moment, the Athlete A documentary portrays that moment the athlete a documentary portrays that moment is like an abusive moment because her ankle was hurt uh you know and then

she came down the ankle and she was really hurt but then like you can see the coach the caroles they were like making her go back out there for that next um for the what is it the vault or whatever it's called uh yeah whatever and she did it and she did it and she got the score as it turned out She didn't even need that score for some reason I don't understand gymnastics that well But she did a heroic thing on that ankle and she had to be carried off and then putting us there and she was really hurt So the documentary portrays it as abusive, but when we interviewed Kerry Strunk She kind of portrayed it as like she had to reach down deep and do it.

So it's interesting. Well, that's a good way to look at it. You know, that's an empowered person, right? An empowered person looks at it like they figured out a way to summon the strength. Yeah. A disempowered person says it was abusive. I was abused. They told me to do it.

I shouldn't have done it. Even though we won the goal, I shouldn't have done it. Right. But what if her her ankles permanently damaged What if you're limping for the rest of your life some asshole coach wants you to do something right? So you can get a piece of metal around a cloth string right? That's no good either It's weird, especially when you're making a kid like these gymnasts are like 14. Yeah, making them make that decision I mean that they don't really have agency at that age,

and I think that's what made the Carolis so controversial is because they were like robots for this husband-wife coach team. And they pushed them really hard, and they separated them from their parents, and they make them do—I mean, to compete on that level and do that type of stuff, who knows what kind of uh sacrifices and sort of pushing that they need that may you know mentally too just i mean you watch some of what they do you're going like how's that humanly possible right they're like landing on a bar this like a it's like a six inches wide and they're flipping on it and stuff like that. I mean, I'd have no dick if I did that.

I'd just fall on my dick. A lot of dudes don't do it, do they? The flips and everything on the balance ball? They do all that shit, yeah. Dudes do all that. Why do you only see girls on TV do it? Because it's hotter. Yeah, I think it's hotter.

But they're girls, you fucking creep. How dare you say hotter? Some of them are 24. One of them was 46, right, okay, what was a 24? One of them was 46, right? The old one was 46. And that's old for gymnastics, but- That's old for humans. For, nah, 46?

46 to be doing that kind of shit? Oh, to be doing that kind of shit, yeah. I mean, your joints, 46 years of flipping and landing and all the abuse it takes. She looked pretty fucking good for a 46-year-old. She looked good,

but next to those girls, she looked ancient, which is because, you know, she was... Because she is. Compared to them, yeah. Compared to them. Yeah. For that sport? For that sport. Like as a fighter. A 46-year-old fighter is like, Jesus Christ, don't die in there. Right. George Foreman was doing it in his 40s. Yes, he was.

He won the heavyweight title at 45. He did. Against Michael Moore, who was a beast. Who was a beast, yeah. Yeah. And so he can be done. How about Hopkins? Hopkins is a world champion deep into his 40s. Almost 50, I think. Yeah.

He was beating world-class guys at 50 years old. Yeah. He had that defense. He just had that style where he figured out how to not get hit. He was so disciplined, too. Like, never fucked his body up, never ate processed foods, always exercised, never got out of shape. Still to this day.

Tom Brady, 43, 44, that's unheard of. To be still competing at that level. I know. Yeah. He doesn't eat anything inflammatory either. He's got... He must drink adrenochrome too. There must be an adrenochrome. They have a Slurpee machine.

Did you see that fucking ridiculous moment where biden gets uh interviewed they're asking him a question and uh he said uh well the republicans think we uh drink baby blood right like what uh did you see that i did see it it's like what are you saying man why are you even bringing that up right thou doth protest too much that guy's lost yeah he's lost. He's sad. President Kamala. President Kamala. Say it. You know what's funny is it's sad because Kamala, she was one of the first people skeptical of the vaccine. I'm not checking that Trump vaccine.

Have you seen that video of them? Have you ever seen that video? Probably. Where they all talk about it? Joe Biden talks about it, not taking it. How has this been vetted? Have you seen that video? I might have. I don't remember it.

But yeah, I mean, everything has consequences, man. You know, people do things for the short-term advantage for them. But then, you know, long-term, they're going like, how come people aren't taking the vaccine? It's like, dude, you were saying the vaccine was dangerous fucking- When it was Trump's. When it was Trump's. So you're the first ones to politicize it.

Yeah, I'll find it. I got a video in here of it. Kamala's, her approval rating is not high though, even amongst the Dems. It shouldn't be. It'd be even lower if they went into her past. They looked at her, what she's done in terms of prosecuting people what Tulsi Gabbard said during the The debates the vice presidential debate crushes debates. It's a moment true. That's what she said is 100% true She kept people after the time they were supposed to be released and then Josh Dubin on this podcast talked about how she

Withheld evidence that would have exonerated prisoners. She fought to stop DNA evidence from being introduced into a case that would have exonerated defendants. Brutal. Yeah. That was her DA's office, right? Like she was the DA in San Francisco? Yeah. I mean, look, man, it's a sport and they try to win. That's what it's like. When you are dealing with someone who's a prosecuting attorney, what those people are doing is trying to win. That's what they're trying to do. That's what they do. They win. And the way to win is by whatever means necessary, whatever means you have at your disposal. One of the best ways to do that is to, you know, if you have some evidence that will make a guy seem innocent, hide that shit. Right. Put it away.

Get rid of it. That's the gross thing about cops in general is that cops are trying to get, like, a lot of cops will talk about this. And I don't think it's supposed to be legal, but they have mandates. Like, you're supposed to arrest. Yeah, you're supposed to. You have a quota of so many people you're supposed to arrest. And I always said, like, what if nobody did any crime for, like, six months? What would they do?

Right. What if all crime stopped and the cops have these quotas? How would the cops be treated? Would they say, hey, good job, everybody? Would they be treated like firefighters? Right, because firefighters, they take these fucking long 24-hour shifts. They hang out in the fire department. They lift weights.

They cook. Yeah. They hang out. They're good cooks, too, which is funny. Oh, a lot of them are. Like, you know like a real tough guy being like let's do it

tonight's chicken fray chase yeah and they put a little parsley on it yeah tonight we're doing it's my mother's recipe yeah

yeah they don't do anything but no one's saying hey you gotta put out a certain amount of fires every day right cause you know

they're hoping there's no fires right but they're never hoping there's no crime no I remember that was like a big problem in Ferguson is that they were like harassing those Residents to fill quotas, you know jaywalking and bullshit Yeah, if you did that in a white neighborhood, they'd be like, do you know my father it like they wouldn't go for it

Cops in a lot of places are glorified revenue collectors because they're trying to get money for speeding They're trying to get money for all these different things. It's not just as simple as you're trying to stop crime. I'm here to serve and protect. That's not what it is. That's a great way to put it. They are. They're kind of there to get money for the city in some ways, and they're instructed to do so. How much money do you think is generated in a place like Los Angeles just from speeding tickets? It's probably absurd. It's probably absurd. Yeah. It's probably absurd.

Yeah. It's probably off the charts. Yeah. Speeding tickets, traffic violations. Right. Right. Los Angeles, I think, might be higher with parking than speeding. Oh, yeah.

Because they're fucking collective. They're brutal. They're brutal. Do that in New York, too. New York is crazy with the parking. Oh, they're fucking horrific. Yeah, the street sweeping scam where they just push around dust. They make you double park on another side.

Then the street sweeper comes by and you just push his leaves around. And you got to wake up early enough to move your car. If not, you're paying a ticket. Yeah, living in the city like that, parking on the street is rough. Oh, dude, now that I live in the country, I can't even believe I used to do that. Where are you living now? Don't tell specifically. Yeah, I'm in the country, I can't even believe I used to do that. Where are you living now? Don't tell specifically. Yeah, I'm like in the country, like upstate.

Yeah, in the woods. The forest. Yeah, the forest. You got a rock saw. The big rocks. Yeah. And the trees. How far is it to you to get in the city?

About an hour 15. But like I got bears. I'm like living there. Like horses everywhere. There's bears. Bear shit in my backyard. You ever eat a bear? No.

I have not eaten a bear. Bears taste good. Yeah? It tastes good. Yeah. There's bear shit in my backyard. You ever eat a bear? No, I have not eaten a bear. Bears taste good. Yeah? It tastes good. Yeah. It's odd. It's oddly good. What happened to you?

You're ready to survive if things... I don't know how to eat a bear. It's not hard to eat a bear. No? I could cook some bear for you. Yeah? Yeah. You come over there. I don't have any bear...

Would you do it on the Traeger grill? 100%. Right. 100%. With some jalapenos? Oh, yeah. I'd want to make sure it's cooked. It's got to be above 145 for a long period of time. Like, the best way to do bear is to apparently, I'm learning this. My friend Clay Newcomb schooled me on this as well. The thing you have to worry about is trichinosis.

Anytime you're eating an animal. Right. The predator thing. Yes. Right. So with trichinosis, you want to make sure that you're cooking it to at least 145 degrees. It's the same thing as pork. They want you to cook it to 165, although they've kind of backed that down with domestic pork

because they really don't have an opportunity to get trichinosis. They're not out in the wild. But wild pork, you definitely want to get it a little higher. And you do sous vide. So you take it in a sous vide bag and you, you know what sous vide is? You know what that means? Sous vide is they take these bags, like a plastic bag,

you seal the meat in a bag. Generally you do it with some seasoning and maybe some butter or something like that. And then you dip it in water and you put a wand in the water. See if you can pull up Joule sous vide. I forget how you spell it. Wait, so there's a risk if you have bear or wild that you'll die from the trichinosis.

No, you won't die. It sucks. You get real sick. You get real achy and your muscles hurt and it eventually goes away. But a couple of my buddies got trichinosis. He said it was not that bad. But he said it's not fun. But he said it's like illuminating. Like, oh, it's not what I thought it was.

But if you ever ate my friend, you would get trichinosis. If I ate your friend? Yeah, you get it from him because it stays in the body. Oh. Like these little spores. There it is. So that's J-O-U-L-E. I got one of these things.

They're awesome. And so you put in a pot of water, and then you heat the water. The water heats to 145 degrees, and you could cook it at that temperature for hours. Some guys do it like they'll do 120 for like a good piece of like a venison shank where it's like a tough piece of meat. You put it in the sous vide and you'll cook it like a venison shoulder, for instance, which has a lot of fascia and connective tissue. You cook it at 125 degrees for 12, 13 hours, maybe more. And then all that stuff breaks down, becomes incredibly tender. Then when you take it out, you sear it on the outside.

You take a cast iron frying pan and you put like some lard in there or some um some um tallow some beef tallow sear it on there and then you cut it off and slice it and oh my god so tender and delicious because it's just been sitting at that temperature that perfect temperature where it's cooked it doesn't overcook because it doesn't it can't get any warmer right right like if you cook something on a grill you're cooking it at 265 degrees You to 265 degrees piece of meat. It's done. It's fucked up right that's that's that's shoe leather So at 265 you want to have a thermometer in that bitch to make sure it gets to like 120 then you pull it and then you sear it on the outside

That's what I do, but with the sous-vide you sit it in there for hours and hours and hours, and it becomes so tender. It just falls apart in your mouth. Yeah, and then when you get it out of there, then you sear it. Yeah. Or you could take it on one of those Traeger Rangers where it has the flat cast iron, flat thing, and you sear it on that bad boy. I feel bad eating a bear, though.

Fuck bears. They eat kids. They do. Bears are assholes. It's not their fault, though. They eat their own kids how about that do they fuck yeah i watched it yeah i've seen them eat babies yeah well i haven't seen them eat babies but i've seen babies that they ate i've seen like paws yeah i'm like cubs

yeah there's i saw this one video of a polar bear just like chasing um oh yeah a little baby mother was trying to like stop it but it was like no cannibalism runs rampant but it's because they're hungry though it's hard to that's the thing about nature nature documentaries they portray them as like like like the predators is like mean and you're always rooting for like the the antelopes or whatever but it's like it's they they fail most of the time predators fail most of the time oh yeah so if you if you put it in that context you'd almost be happy for them when they got one because like a million of them got away

that you don't see. You know, the media. I'm telling you, the media. It's the fucking media. It's the fucking media. But it's also you have to have the predators. Otherwise, the prey animals would be, they would overrun the earth.

Yeah. If nothing's eating them. And you have situations like New Zealand where they have to fly over these herds of invasive species animals that they reintroduced to this country. They introduced a bunch of stags and all these different animals. And occasionally they get so overpopulated, they have to fly over and gun them down from helicopters. Right. Because there's no predators. Wild hogs in Texas, right? There's just too many of them. Exactly. I got a video I'll show you of this mountain lion trying to chase down, I think it's a wild sheep, and catches it. And as it's catching it, it goes over the side of a cliff with this fucking thing. It's wild.

Mountain lions are killed wholesale because they take your dog, right? Oh, yeah. They're not killed wholesale in California. In California, they just let them run rampant. Where they're killed a lot is in Texas. In Texas, you don't even have to have a license. You don't have to have anything. You just whack them. They're big, though, man.

Oh, yeah, man. That's the video, Jamie. You're the man. Rewind it from a different... So he's chasing after it He catches him Watch him go off the side of the cliff Boom

Oh it's not a mountain lion it's a snow leopard Watch this Boom Boom Fuck 400 feet off a cliff They're both dead, right? No, the cat still survives, man. That's what's crazy.

Look at the end. The cat still has them. Fuck. That is just, I mean, imagine that's your life. That's how you eat. It's got to be. Boom. I mean, look how he hits the ground.

Cats are so fucking resilient. They are really amazing animals. They're like the most beautiful killers. Oh, yeah. yeah well they kill they don't like the thing about wolves and bears and a lot of those other animals they hold things down to start eating yeah cats kill first yeah which is cool that's kind of cool it's nice yeah when you watch I he knows start to eat something alive you're going like that's a little bit of a dick move a huge dick yeah yeah Komodo dragons's a dick move. They bite you and wait.

Yeah, they wait and they hang out. They know that the poison from their saliva, all the fucking horrible shit inside their mouth, it slowly starts to... I forget if Komodo dragons have toxic saliva, if it's a poison, like if it's a venom, or if it's actually just the... I think it's a bacteria. Yeah, it's one or the other. They're just filthy. Disgusting. Naughty Yeah, it's one or the other. They're just filthy, naughty bitches.

Slimy fucks. They got slime coming out of their mouth. Yeah, they're brutal, dude. Have you ever seen their mouth when they open their mouth up and it's just dripping slime like that Venom in that cartoon, that Marvel Comics guy, Venom? Like, bah! With the teeth and the fucking slime.

They're evil. It's both? Venom and bacteria? Oh, double whammy. Yeah. The reptiles just don't give a fuck, man. They're evil. It's both. Venom and bacteria. Oh, double whammy. Yeah. The reptiles just don't give a fuck, man. They don't have feelings. It's horrible.

Cats neither. It was venom, not toxic bacteria. Oh, so I'm wrong. It is venom. Well, I guarantee you, though, if you put a swab in their mouth, it's not going to come back clean. It's not Purell in there. No.

It says blood poisoning caused by multiple strains of bacteria and the dragon saliva so I guess it is bacteria yeah oh it's a long thought sorry long thought now a new study says they're vicious they they stalk you right then they'll bite and then just follow you around until you start to get paralyzed from the poison and then they just start eating you alive. It's tough to watch. It's a rough life. Yeah, they're scary.

Sharon Stone's boyfriend got bit on the foot by a Komodo dragon once at the zoo. What was he doing that close to a Komodo dragon? Not only was he close to a Komodo dragon, but he had his shoes off. I forget what happened, but I think the Komodo dragon thought that his sock, like his white sock was a rabbit or something like that and bit his foot and fucked him up.

Wow. Yeah. So he had to go through what the prey animals go through. What's that, Jamie? This is not for viewing online, but you guys can enjoy it with me. Why can't we view it online? Because it's very graphic and not on video. Is that a monkey?

Yeah. Oh, bro. It's still alive. It grabs its head here. Oh, go from the beginning. I did. I did. I that a monkey? Yeah. Oh, bro. It's still alive. It grabs its head here. Oh, go from the beginning. I did, I did, I did. Take it from the beginning, please. That's the beginning right there.

So it just grabs him by the head. The monkey's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And just starts swallowing. The monkey's like, hold up, hold up, hold up. No, no, no, no, no, no. Let me get a do-over. Yeah, let's talk for a second. Look how he's swallowing it, too.

Just choking it back. Look at the monkey's hands. He's still moving his hands. Like, fuck, fuck, fuck. Swallowing it whole. The thing about monkeys, too, is they're smart. So the monkey knows what's going on. It is very much alive.

Look at his hand. His hand coming out of the mouth. Like, hey, let me out, bro. Oh, God. Oh, my God. That is incredible, dude. They are. Look at the eyes.

Just soulless creeps. Cold. All they're there is to clean up. Yeah. They're there to clean up. They're there to make sure that things don't overpopulate. That's literally their role in nature. And that's what's so fascinating about nature is that the ecosystem and that there's a battle.

Look at his fucking heartless eyes, right? It's just the hands and the tail eyes right it's just the teeth that your hands and a tail stick oh look at the foot yeah they're the most terrifying to me reptiles yeah yeah reptiles lizards you know crocodiles crocodiles I think in the most terrifying because they're so aggressive and they move fast yeah but these things are pretty fucking gross look at that fucking thing too look at his neck just all filled up with monkey yeah he's full he's got the itis now he's got the tail pop look at the slime that that fucking gross juicy slime that comes out of his mouth he's still got the tail out he hasn't finished chewing he's drooling like a baby teething.

Yeah, he can't fit it in all the way. Look. Oh, God. He's so disgusting. There's blood on the side of his face. Clean yourself up. I wonder what they taste like. Monkeys?

No. Dragons. Oh, dragons. You're definitely going to have to. I wonder if it's delicious. It's kind of deer. That must have been. Oh, yeah.

I don't know if they could chase him down. Dude, there's videos of them with like big buffalo or something just like eating a part of it. Just chewing hunks out of it. The buffalo just looking around. Just pulling intestines out. I mean, the Komodo dragons could care less. They're just biting. This guy had a really good point.

He was talking about cows, and he was like, people say it's unnatural to eat cows. He goes, no, it's very, very natural to eat cows. He goes, if you left cows wild, none of them live to be old age. Right. He goes, none of them die of old age, 0%. All of them get eaten and killed by predators, and it's a slow, horrible, painful death. He goes, when people raise cows, especially if people raise cows humanely, he goes, those cows live a wonderful life

and they have one bad day. I don't want to focus on this, but right here, he's eating a boar. It looks like he's sniffing out a particular part and then starts going after the... Do you know what? It might be liver or something. Probably. Yeah, he's looking for the guts. Maybe he's just a foodie and he wants the... He wants the guts?

He wants the good stuff. Oh, God. He starts getting in there. Oh, he's alive for the guts. Maybe he's just a foodie and he wants the good stuff. Oh, God. It starts getting in there. Oh, he's alive. Of course it is. Oh, yeah. Oh, geez. He's holding down his legs. It's just a rough day.

Guts first. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. And the thing is already poisoned, right? Yeah. He's already bit it. Oh, we got up. Oh, Jesus. And look at it breathing.

It could get up and run away if it wasn't for the poison and now he's got a goddamn hole in it oh we're so soft yannis we're so lucky we're so lucky that people before us figured out houses and spears and guns and weapons and you know they say that um the reason why little kids are scared of monsters and not child molesters or bullets or car accidents, little kids are scared of monsters because there's like a deep primate response to cats. We're afraid of big cats at night because that's what killed our ancestors. And that information is in a child's brain. Right. The same way like a dog knows to piss on a tree.

You don't have to tell a dog. Right. Right? Dog sees a squirrel, he immediately goes after him. There's like some deep set instinct. Even my dog, which is like the friendliest, sweetest dog, my golden retriever, he sees a squirrel and he's like, boop.

Yeah. He wants to go after that fucking squirrel. He can't help it. Oh, Jesus, Jamie. Why? It's a pinata. There's a lot of candy in there. Oh, Jesus, Jamie. Why? It's a piñata. There's a lot of candy in there.

Oh, Jesus. Look at it. It's still alive, and he just pulled out a hunk of his guts. That's a gnarly video for everyone to watch later. Hyenas do that, too. What's the title of the video? Komodo Dragon Eats Wild Boar Alive, Not for Sensitive Viewers. And it was posted recently. Meanwhile, why is that okay on YouTube, but you can't have vaccine disinformation?

Why is that okay on YouTube, but you can't have vaccine disinformation? You can't have anything to say. Up until recently, you couldn't have anything to say that the virus came from a lab. They would pull it down. Yeah. They let those up now. I wonder if they re-put them back, all those YouTube videos they took down because they said the virus leaked from a lab. Well, Facebook didn't allow you for months. They were like deactivating your accounts

and stuff like that. For the truth. And then Jon Stewart comes on and does that great joke. So funny on Colbert. You can see Colbert doesn't know what to do. He's like panicking. Yeah, he's panicking. Isn't it disappointing?

It was disappointing. It was. It was like, you could see everyone going, you could probably see censors going, can't compute. Jon Stewart, liberal hero, saying this, can't compute, meltdown. What do we do here? Can't censor it.

I know. Colbert is essentially trying to kill the bit. He's trying to kill the bit. He's trying to kill the bit. If that was your friend, if you went on a guy's podcast, you were saying something like that, and you saw him try to kill the bit,

you'd be like, what? If you and Joe List are sitting there, and Joe List starts to kill your bit, you'd be like, Joe, what the you and Joe List are sitting there and Joe List starts to kill your bit, you'd be like, Joe, what the fuck are you doing? Stepping on my shit, yeah. What the fuck are you doing here? Stepping on this great bit. Yeah, totally.

You know, if you're sitting there across from Ari Shafir and you guys are talking and Ari starts killing your bit, you'd be like, bro. I'd be excited that he wasn't saying something else about a celebrity. Or pulling his dick out. Yeah. He asked me, he asked me recently, he's like, dude, why do you go to Austin so much? I said, dude, because being friends with you is dangerous.

I got to dip out of town once in a while when the bloods and crips get hot on me. He's going to come here too. He knows it. He was here a couple weeks ago. He's like, it's fucking great here. I go, yeah, it's fun, right? Think about it

you can't go to LA so might as well come here I hope you never played for a team here right no I have news about the club I'm opening I'll tell you as soon as

we get off the air but we got good news I got some good shit happening I'd like to hear it god it took forever and I'll explain everything I gotta do it off air unfortunately

I'll explain everything because I should have had a club open already the idea was to be open July 4th weekend. Right. But becoming a club owner is fucking complicated. And I used to tell comics all the time, please be nice to these club owners. Because they always treated the club owners like, in the beginning it was like,

oh, they're not paying me what I'm worth or they won't headline me or they won't give me a chance or they don't give me any work and then eventually it Became you know like when you start doing well you realize like oh This is their business. This is how they make money You should look at it correctly and what I always always tell them look like you don't want to be a club owner Right who wants to deal with us? I want to deal with a bunch of comics crazy you want to deal with uh fucking just wild people that want to do drugs and stay up all night and they show up the next day and they forget their jokes and come on do you want to deal with that

no and you got to sell tickets these fucking crazy people you're gonna tickets to see these wild people tell nutty jokes no No, be nice to them. You don't want to be a club owner. Right. Now that I'm becoming a club owner, I'm realizing it's even more complicated than that. The business end of it, just commercial real estate. Right.

The regulations, the hoops, environmental concerns. I'll tell you about that. Right. We'll talk about that after the show. Right. Because that's what happened with me. Right. Like environmental issues.

You're like, what? Especially for you. you i mean you're a busy guy so this is like a one of many things you do yeah so but it's important to me it's very important part of the whole project about moving to austin i had this this this plan and one big part of the plan is not just get you know a podcast studio established, get everything going, help all the other comics out and try to boost everybody's signal. The big plan is to have a fantastic comedy club, which only exists for comedy. I just want to break even.

I'm not trying to make any money with this comedy club. I want it to be the best place for comics to perform, where you make great money, where you have a great time Everybody takes care of you from top to bottom and there's no worry about like cutting corners or pinching pennies There's none of that. There's none of that Everyone's treated like fucking gold and I want you to feel I want everybody to feel so comfortable That's that's my goal. It's my hundred percent everybody from management to bartenders to everybody you're treated like gold you make great money you got great health care coverage everything's taken care of health care cover I want to tell you I want to take care of comics I want to take care of comics I

know so many comics don't have health care I want to give him health care I want to I want to just across the board my whole goal is to not make money right my whole goal is to not lose money that's it well you don't need I mean I mean technically yeah you're in a good position is to not lose money, that's it. Well you don't need, I mean, technically, you're in a good position to say that. But that's why I wanna do it that way. It's a beautiful thing, man. You've helped so many comics as is.

If it wasn't for this show, there's no other alternative for guys who really wanna be funny. To get wild. To get wild and be uncensored and be funny. There's no platform, you've done that for comics. It's a great thing it's because I don't listen you know listen to the the people that you know like when you go through steps of progress and steps of you know like financial success and popularity success like it comes

to a point in time where you you go into this rarefied air where everybody starts to play it safe right they go hey we're dealing with very large sponsors. Right. There's a lot of money at stake here, and I don't think you should have Alex Jones on anymore. Right. And I'm like, nope, he's coming on next week, and we're getting drunk. Woo!

And you've got to do it that way. It's the same thing with Kill Tony. I tell everybody, like Fitzsimmons was on yesterday. We were talking about how he did Kill Tony on Monday night. And, uh, there's a guy in the fucking green room handing out mushrooms. Everybody's doing mushrooms. Greg got so high. He goes,

I didn't even know what I was saying while I was saying it. Everyone's barbecued. They went on stage. This guy, Hans Kim, who came on the show last night, it was fucking hilarious. This young kid who's,

uh, on kill Tony all the time. He opened up for me last night. He's going on, uh, tonight at the same thing. He, uh, me last night. He's going on tonight at the same thing. He met some girl. They said at the show, they said, who wants to have sex with this man? And this girl came on stage. She goes, I'll have sex with him. And so her boyfriend was there.

And she goes, the boyfriend's cool. He just wants to be there while it happens. Like what? So he and the girl sneak off into a janitor's closet and while the show's going on like this is happening wow this is wild the jokes are hilarious but it's like there's chaos okay like it's chaos but everybody's nice yeah they're all nice they're all nice people having a good time right and like that's what I want to cultivate I want to cultivate people wild comedy wild shit be nice be nice somebody gets fucked in the bathroom while the show's gone on yeah it's a everybody's willing it's like they decided to do it they had a good time yeah fun wow that's a wild night that's a wild show it's's a wild show. It's the cornerstone for

comedy in Austin. It really is. Because it allows open micers to have this unique opportunity to do one minute in front of Ron White or Tim Dillon. Have you done it? I haven't done it yet. God damn, you gotta do it. Yeah, I gotta do it. Next time you come on, let's organize it so that you'll come on on a Monday

and you and I'll go on together. That's what we'll do. We'll have you on next time. You'll do the show on Monday and then Monday night we'll go and do Kill Tony. That sounds great. Fuck, it's the cornerstone of this community. It really is. Right. It gives comics a real opportunity to-

And they can really, like William Montgomery, he's opened for me before. Genevieve, she's opened for me before. Hans Kim, he opened for me last night. A lot of these comics. David Lucas. Right. David Lucas is funny, man. Funny. David Lucas is a killer funny funny David Lucas is a killer yeah he's a killer he's a good dude he's a fun dude to be around yeah he's a good dude too because like

Tony and him crack on each other and when Tony gets him he laughs loud loud and hard which is a sign of a good guy yeah a guy who takes a hit yeah like and laughs yeah like Tony will say something to him he's like it's it's just it's it's a beautiful environment where comics get a chance and comics have gone on to have legitimate like Ali Makovsky she's got a legitimate career she's headlining she goes on the road she's headlining now it's amazing and it started out from Kill Tony yeah and it's cool that it's live and it's comedy fans and it's not on TV. It's kind of grassroots,

which is how things go now. Well, they tried to do it on Comedy Central for a while and Comedy Central didn't take it and I'm glad they didn't because they would have changed it. Probably. Look, they have executives and those executives have mortgages

and they have families and they have kids in private school and they don't want to fuck it up. They don't want anybody fucking anybody in some janitor's closet. Right. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, don't say that. Can you edit that out? Can you edit that part out? Right. Or Hans fucked a girl in the closet. Right. Right. Yeah. That wouldn't happen on there. That's the thing about having a podcast like this. It's like, if you do it like this the entire time and never stopped doing it the same way, right? He's never changed how you do it. Yeah, it's hard because you get a lot of resistance

There's a lot of resistance, but you got to cut all that resistance out. You got to figure it out away I have the best managers as one of the beautiful things about is the managers know they know who I am They know what I do. They love me. I love them and it just works, right? They don't they don't try to tell you anything They don't tell me anything and they take care of everything they take care of all the business aspect of it and leave me going right and i've been with them for so long i've been with my manager for 30 years that's almost unique he found me when i was an open micer yeah dude we don't even have a contract right that's unique yes yeah he's my he's family right and so is chandra she's

the both of them their team their family right so it's like for me it's it's the best because i'm just completely relaxed right in that department and i don't have to think like when i go on vacation like i went on vacation last week i don't pay attention to anything right i just lay around the beach i drink margaritas i play with my kids i just fucking go in the water and snorkel and shit. I'm not thinking, you know, and that's so important to be free. And it's hard. It's hard because you want to read things. You want to find out what's going on and how are the ticket sales in Boise. You know, you start thinking, thinking of things like, how's that going? How's this going? But you can't, you can't,

you can't concern yourself with the only thing you got to do is do your best. Do your best at what you do. And the more you pay attention to outside of what you do, like how other people are viewing what you do and what you should do or shouldn't do to get this amount of money or that thing or this new advertiser doesn't like you saying cunt. Like, ugh. You can't. Right. You can't.

It'll ruin it. It's hard when you're coming up. Like when you're, it's hard not to think about the ticket sales. That's the dream, to not think about the ticket sales. Just know and go and have fun and just think about the jokes. But it's hard to get to that point. It's very hard. You need a platform.

You need somebody to put you on. You need a show, something. That's what I want to help with. That's my goal with comics, to just take these talented people that have a dream and give them a hand. Reach up. up reach up come on up come on up here let's all do this together right you know and and the beautiful thing about the podcast world is that everybody supports everybody and the people that

don't these weird island people meaning these people that live in an island separate from the community of comedy they only want it to be about themselves the only relationships they have with comics are these comics that open for them, that are always below them. They don't have intimate relationships with people that are their peers. They're creeps.

Yeah, what is up with that? Selfish. Selfish. Yeah, but it's crazy because it's like the dream. It's like, why wouldn't, would you rather an industry person or a booker tell you you're great or would you rather another comic be like, you're great. Let me help you.

That's like the dream and that there's no competition that – because it used to be all guys were competing for a few spots. So I understand that there was competition. It was like to get booked, you have to be one of a few. But now it's wide open. The internet is like the universe. It's beautiful. It's endless. But some guys, there's still competition, right?

They'll look at other guys who are doing podcasts. They'll look at the iTunes ratings, and maybe they'll be numbered blah, blah, blah, and someone's one above them. They're like, fuck, how's he there? I should be number three. He's number three. I should be number three. And they get mad.

Why am I not number one? Fucking New York Times or fucking this and that. And they get crazy. You get crazy, start you think about things that are not important right like i when i was on news radio one time we were all sitting around and um they were talking about uh they would all read variety and the hollywood reporter and i would call those things the devil's rag you guys are reading the devil's rag again why are you reading that shit and they were complaining that friends you know like friends always had this amazing time slot it was like seinfeld and friends and then there was some show shoved in there like caroline in the city

and the single guy do you remember those shows yeah do you i do remember them yeah i didn't watch them but nobody watched them yeah they would with uh paul sims the producer of uh news radio the creator executive producer i watched news Radio. I watch News Radio. He used to call those shows the shit sandwich because they were sandwiched in between these great shows. And I remember we were all sitting around and everybody was going, God, why can't we be on Thursday night after Friends? And they were complaining about this stuff. And I go, hey, guys, last time I checked, we're on TV. Right, right.

I go, we're on TV. We have a fucking TV show. Right. We're on like season three of a TV TV. Right, right. I go, we're on TV. We have a fucking TV show. Right. Like, we're on, like, season three. Right, right, right. Of a TV show. We get paid. Right, right. Like, I think I was making, like, 25 grand a week.

I was like, this is wild. Right. This is crazy. When you start looking other places and comparing yourself to other people, that's when you start fucking yourself. I've heard that friends, the people from friends are making a million a week. And I was like. Right.

A million? Right, right. A million a week. And I was like, a million? A million a week? You get angry. You know, you get angry. But it's all in perspective. It's tough when you're starting to not do that. Like I've started a new podcast called Long Days, and I'm just focused on it. Like I've started a new podcast called Long Days and like I'm just focused on it. But it's hard because I'm starting to not look at other people and go like, fuck, I'm behind.

It's not going to work. It's tough. But then you have to just like when you make it, it's easy. When your seats are sold, it's easy to do that. But when you're trying to climb, you do end up looking at other places as markers for success. And then you become aware that you're not there. You do. But I think that focus on other stuff, it takes away from the focus that you have on doing the best job. Totally. And I think the real success comes from the grind. You just got to grind every day. You

got to just keep doing the same thing and do it the best you can every day and ultimately trust in the process and after time you see success right but when people say like what is the difference in your podcast another podcast I'm like first of all I don't know like realistically I'd say I know but I don't know I just did it yeah but the thing that does stand out that I could say definitely is when everybody else was doing one a week or one every when everybody else was doing one a week or one every two weeks I was doing three a week or four a week I was doing a lot of them and what made you decide to do that it's just something you wanted to do or were you because did you were

conscious were you conscious that other people weren't doing it or did you just do it was a little bit of it was conscious that other people weren't doing it another thing I was saying it's not hard it's fun to do and then I'm like give them more content and then they'll become addicted to it Right like the whole thing is give them what they enjoy and give them a lot of it Right and then like if you like I was always thinking about like Opie and Anthony or Howard Stern or something They do it every day right why not do it every day right do it as many days you can right and then once the show Started getting popular it was helping guys with ticket sales It was easy to get people to come on right because for the first few was like Segura

I'd have guys come on they didn't want to do it like segura there's a funny fucking clip where segura was talking about it uh on the the comedy store documentary where he was saying in the beginning i was like what the fuck is he doing like why are you doing this like you have a tv show and here you're fucking alone in your house in some weird room with us smoking pot and talking shit into some weird internet show. Yeah. But I had an idea.

I was like, I think if you just keep going, it could be bigger. Right. Like if you keep going, it'll reach more people. If you keep going, you'll get better at it. Right. And then eventually it'll be something that, I mean, I didn't think it would ever make any money. That's what's crazy.

Right. I thought at the most it would do is like it would help ticket sales on the road right then we got a sponsor the fleshlight you know that was the first sponsor that fucking tube that you you have sex with yeah you fuck it yeah it's pretty good yeah that's not cheating technically if you're fucking so it feels like you're cheating it feels so good especially when you just when you just soak it in warm water. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you soaked it in warm water.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You soak it in warm water. You treat it like bear. Yeah. You treat it like bear meat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You sous vide it. You just did a fucking free ad for them.

Dude, I did 100 ads for them at least. Hundreds. Yeah. We did constant ads for them at least hundreds yeah we did constant ads for them and every one of them would be like these long rambling discussions of nutting yeah into these weird rubber tubes it's not even rubber i don't even know what's what's made out some weird gelatin or something like that it feels very very realistic it does huh yeah i've never fucked one but i i'm not opposed to it i'm curious yeah maybe i'll get one there's something about it being contained in that can, too,

that keeps it tight. Yeah. You know? Because there's only so much expansion. Right. Feel me? There's no babies coming in there. That's right.

Or coming out of there to stretch it out. Clean it up, though. Yeah. Don't be lazy. Do you put hot butter in there? How do you make it warm? Soak it in water. But when you take it out, it's dry.

I mean, you need some- But it's warm. Yeah, but you need some fluid in there. They have oil. They have like lubes, squirt lube in water. But when you take it out, it's dry. I mean, you need some- But it's warm. Yeah, but you need some fluid in there. They have oil. They have like lubes, a squirt lube in there. Nothing's better than the real thing, though. No, of course not. Self-lubricating holes.

Well, also people liking you and wanting to have sex with you. That's a big part of it. Yeah, that's a good one. There's a body attached to it. You didn't feel a little weird? In a personality. Yeah, you feel a little weird. You feel like Ed Gein for a second?

You know when you feel weird? Right after you cum. You're like, what is wrong with me? You know when you feel weird right after you cum? You're like, what is wrong with me? You know? You see, you're like, oh, this feels so good. And you're like, ugh, get your shit together, loser. It's so funny how out the door reason is while you're jacking off and then how quickly it rushes in when you're done.

Yeah. Well, that's the thing about- You just see yourself there. There's like your pants around your ankles. For some reason, you have this moment. You see yourself. It's like a moment where you just go like, ugh. It's the biological trick.

The biological trick where your body wants to get rid of cum. Yeah. As quickly as possible. I mean, that's why there's so many humans. That's why there's almost 8 billion people on this planet. It's because people want to get rid of cum yeah and your your body has you convinced this is the most important thing for you to do right now yeah there's no feeling like it i mean people blow their whole lives away with bad decisions for it yeah oh my god do that yeah really wealthy people

yes look at the fuckingzos, right? Yeah. He loses, what did he lose, like 39 billion in his divorce settlement? Yes. But his new gal is smoking. Yeah, yeah. She's a predator. Yeah. You look at her and you're like, Jesus, that's an alpha predator female.

Yeah, but the puss, puss, puss is probably incredible because girls like that, you got to respect, they know that that's their job. Like, I think gold diggers don't get enough credit. That's what I'm saying. They put a lot of work into that. Why don't they teach that? They should. If you think about business school,

what is a great business move? There's things that people will teach you. They'll teach you startups. Startups don't always work. How about restaurant businesses? Schools on restaurants, 60% of them fail.

Yeah. Right? It's very difficult to start a restaurant. But there's a thought about doing a restaurant as a business. Stock brokers, they don't give a fuck about the companies. They're just trying to make money. Right. They're just moving things.

And the whole idea is to gain money in your portfolio. Right. That's the whole thing. But gold digging is a huge way to make money if you're good at it. Oh, yeah. If you think about successful... Now, I'm not saying that every woman who got divorced from her husband and made a shit ton of money is a gold digger. But literally, most millionaires and billionaires that are females are from divorce.

Yeah. No, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's not even debatable. Right. Like what percentage of the richest women in the world come from divorce? It's a lot.

There's some women that are self-made. Oprah. Don't get me wrong. Oprah. Oprah's self-made. The lady who started that Bumble, that website, self-made. The twins, the Olsen twins. I don't know about that.

They're kids. Yeah, but they have like a massive company. They become, they're close to billionaires. Oh, after they started something new? After when they started their shit, yeah. But what percentage of women, ultra rich, got their money from divorce? Probably a lot. I mean.

You think 90? No, I don't know about 90. 99? 99. I was going the other way. I don't think it's that high. You're going close to 100. I was going the other way. I don't think it's that high. You're going close to 100.

I mean, you're not giving women any credit. It's not that I'm not giving them any credit. I think that, listen, no doubt about it, there's a shitload of women that have made millions, if not billions of dollars on their own. But I think if you looked at the bulk. I just picture you coming home with your Spotify deal, just like hide it from your wife for as long as you can. You know, they gave me about 50 Gs.

She gets a newsletter. Hey, what the fuck is this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. It's true. I mean, Tiger Woods got fucking hammered.

He did get hammered. Hammered. Yeah. Jeff Bezos hammered. Yeah. got hammered he did get hammered hammered yeah but jeff bezos hammered yeah bill gates gonna get hammered he's donating to a new foundation called melinda gates the bill gates one is weird right because you know there's like some stories attached to that one the the jeff bezos one is pretty straightforward right he had an affair with a smoking hot woman yeah and you kind of get it. You know, you see it, you're like, well, maybe the thrill was gone,

their relationship, and they had kids together, and they had a long relationship, and then all of a sudden he meets this fucking firecracker of a woman. Yeah. Woo!

And yeah, I mean, nobody will ever convince me that the most powerful thing in the world is not a woman's puss-puss. It's number one. Well, it's a woman's whole essence, right? An attractive woman. Like I've said this before, but an attractive woman with an unattractive man who's never

experienced the love of an attractive woman, they have an insane amount of influence. It's a drug. Right. When you're around like some ultra woman like that and you're like, you've never experienced, she's got a little waist and a big ass and big tits and a perfect face. She's like... And she's nice to you.

Yeah. And she touches you and she thinks you're cute. And they got that whole thing. That sexual energy, that kind of seductive sexual energy. Yes. And every cell in your body is like, that, that. It's like a steak. Get that. And you're hungry, yeah. Get that. Yes. And every cell in your body is like that. It's like a steak.

Get that. And you're hungry. Get that. Yeah. And they do work hard. They have to work on their body. They have to have sex with someone they don't love. That's a good point. That's a good point. There's a lot of maintenance that goes into that. It's a business decision. They got to shoo away all the other gold digger hoes trying

to get there. Hell yeah. Some low rent hoes trying to take your spot. Fuck that. That's why nobody hates whores more than gold diggers. Yes. to get there. Some low rent hoes trying to take your spot. Fuck that. That's why nobody hates whores more than gold diggers. Yes. I've been sucking on this stale dick for years. You think you're going to come along and suck it for $2,000? Yeah. I've been working on the long game.

Yeah. The long game. The long game is billions. Yes. Yes. It's a job, man. Of course it's a job. It's a job.

That maintenance, that type of, that's, she fucks that guy, she's going to work. She's clocking in. Yeah, like if some hot potato is fucking Rupert Murdoch or someone like that, like that's a job. That's a job, dude. That's a job. I mean, one of my favorite, I post it every Valentine's Day, is Anna Nicole Smith with that. Oh, yes. J. Howard Marshall.

True love. Yeah, J. Howard Marshall. Yeah, I had a whole bit about the two of them together. People were like, oh, that poor man. She's just using you for his money. I'm like, that guy made a billion dollars from scratch. Yeah. You don't think he knows?

He knows exactly what's going on. Yeah. Yeah, he knows. He knows what's going on. He knows, dude. That guy's smart. Yeah, I mean, he was like 90-something. Yeah., he knows. He knows what's going on. He knows, dude. That guy's smart. Yeah, I mean, he was like 90-something. Yeah.

And he knows. Yeah, he was an oil tycoon, right, wasn't he? I don't remember how he made his money, but I know how he spent it. Well, I know how she spent it. Yeah. Well, she didn't live long, you know? I mean, there was probably something to that. Like, there was probably some sadness and some drug abuse that was connected to living your life like that

I think there was dry. I think she was doing drugs. Yeah, she's doing those pills man the pills. Yeah, I don't know why I mean I mean you got You made it. Yeah, you got all that money. You made it Yeah But there's sadness involved in like a hollow life the thing about but isn't there sadness in all of our lives like isn't it? Just better to have a guy's money? Yeah, I guess. Maybe she read it wrong.

It's like, hey, I'm sad too, but I don't have to. I would have sucked that guy's dick for his money. Maybe, right? I would have, yeah. Depends on how much money he's willing to give you. For me, give what? $700 million. $700 million? You suck a cock?

Of course. Are you joking? How many cocks would you suck for $700 million? A million of them million. 700 million? You suck a cock? Of course. Are you joking? How many cocks would you suck for 700 million? A million of them. A million cocks? I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I don't give a shit. You know how many cocks a million would take so many?

It's 365 days in a year. How many dicks are you going to suck in a day? And how many years? Well, if you give me 700 mil. Dude, I think you'd be better off with like one million. I think you can get that on your own. I'm going for it. Well, tell me what the details are.

Brian Cowan said something to me once, and it's really important. It's just true. He goes, all you want is to be able to go to a restaurant and buy whatever you want to eat and not think about it. He goes, that's real money. He goes, everything else is bullshit. It depends on the restaurant, though. I go into McDonald's and I feel that way. So, I mean, he needs to get specific.

He means not worry about the bill. Like, can I pay for this? Right. You know, a good bill to a restaurant is a couple hundred bucks. But if you can go to a restaurant and not think about it, and give a nice tip and feel good,

that's not that hard if you live in your means and you're successful. That's real success. Yeah. Be able to send your kids to college, to be able to pay your mortgage. Everything else is kind of bullshit. I mean joke around but i agree with you i think um money's great but i do think in this country it's kind of a disease where people think about it too

much where it's like the real like when i almost thought i was gonna die when i got shot that one time was like you think about the people you love you think about your life it's like a job's a job i mean if it was fun they would call i wouldn't call it work right it's like there's very few of us who get to do the things we love and even we and we're not happy all the time it's like nobody's happy on this planet it's like find yourself friends find yourself life find things you enjoy doing it's not all about money like to be happy is not about getting all the money in the world. No. It's cliche, but it's true.

It is true. Yeah. It is true. Life is complicated. What's really important is friends. Friends and loved ones. Family and loved ones are everything. It's the only true currency.

Yeah. Dude, when I have like a cookout at my house and have people over that I love and we're having a glass of wine and laughing and hanging out by the pool and just putting your feet up and just telling stories and just laughing, it doesn't get any better. It's number one. It's everything. Number one. It's a friendship and love and family is everything. Yeah. It's really like, if you don't have that, that's why I was talking about like these

comics that are islands, you know, that all want it to be all about them. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about. There's these guys, they never develop these tight bonds with other people where they can be vulnerable, they could be friendly and supportive and have like real love between other comics

and other peers. They're sad, fucking angry, bitter, twisted people. And it's so hard to see, man. I think also they don't want to um push themselves out of their comfort zone and be insecure yeah be around somebody who's bigger be around somebody who's more successful though you know you have to be humble and you know you have to challenge yourself to be around new experiences and new people you have to be open to looking at these other individuals as what they are and not comparing them to you.

You know, when you work with someone like when I work with Chappelle, for instance, Chappelle has this new bit that he's doing about the Me Too movement that is so goddamn good that it's like it's one of those movements, it's one of those bits rather, where there's an instinct to get jealous. Like, why didn't I think of that one? God damn it. I felt that way about your hyena bit because i love hyenas like fuck that is so good man it's a female run world we have evidence of it yeah and it's fucked it's fucked it's a fucking hilarious bit man i love thank you

thank you but there's there's these moments where you you, but instead of that, I just appreciate him, first of all, as a person. Dave is a beautiful person. He is one of the genuinely nicest, kindest people I've ever met in my life, and with everybody. He's just sweet and kind, and when he's doing that bit,

I just appreciate that I'm watching a rare gem. I'm watching a rare thing. I'm like, wow, that's my friend up there like look at him go look at him go look at him go and look at crying laughing I was watching him at the MGM and it was me and my business manager Matt and who's also family I've been with him for 25 years something like that and we're lot we we're laughing like ah ah jesus christ and i'm just thinking god how beautiful is this it's beautiful it's beautiful to see someone who's like you know dave is arguably the greatest of all time he's in that running for sure you know

i mean when he dies they're gonna put him right there with prior they're gonna put him right there with all those guys for sure and hands down hands down and to watch him right there with all those guys. For sure. Hands down. Hands down. And to watch him. He's just like, you can compare yourself and you can go, fuck, why isn't that me? Why am I not? But, man, don't. Don't. Just do your best. Right.

Do your best and enjoy what you're seeing there. Right. And just enjoy that. It's magic. It's an evolved way and you have to be secure to do that. It's hard to be secure, man. It requires effort and work. You can't just be secure. It's hard to be secure, man. It requires effort and work. You can't just be secure.

You can't just be comfortable with things. You got to work at it. It's like everything else in life. You know, you got to work at being nice. I've worked hard at being nice. And when I got into comedy in my early 20s, when I was 21, I was not nice. I was coming from a competitive fighting background.

It was beneficial for me to be mean. There was a certain amount of meanness that you had to have to go out and attack somebody. It's like, that's what it is. You're trying to hurt somebody. There's meanness. And to shift over to comedy and to realize, you gotta let that go, abandon that.

But then I was like well how do I fucking placate these demons inside me and then I'm like oh you just do it with hard work just figure out just hard exercise his brutal exercise get exercise those demons out right and then you could be nice and it's better for everybody it's better for you it's better for the people you meet it's better for everybody right it can be done, right? It's a lot of people don't do it. I mean you are a nice guy. I try really hard. Yeah, you're a nice guy It's like comics talk about that's like and when you see all these articles and stuff

It's those people don't know you at all. You know I mean like as a person you're a good dude You're like a nice guy you help a lot of people out pretty reasonable when you sit down and speak to you You know I try real hard. you you know i try real hard thank you i try real hard i work at it i really do work at it you can cherry pick from anybody and find moments when they weren't nice and you could definitely find something for me but i try i try real hard is that something that comes with success though or like because i can see why guys get bitter when they don't yes like when you miss a boat or you know a lot of times success isn't even,

sometimes it's the luck of a person being somewhere at the right time. For sure. Sometimes failure is just the person was unlucky and that they were at the wrong time. There's that. But there's also sometimes- They get swept away by cultural forces. For sure. For sure. There's also times when sometimes people get some success and then they get either lazy or they get self-indulgent.

Self-indulgent is really common. You know, that's a fucking hard one to avoid. You got to avoid that one, the self-indulgent one, because you just, you want to pat yourself on the back and you want to like look at all the things. But you can't. There's no benefit in that. It's the devil's trick. Right. It really is.

I guess you got to remind yourself that none of us are in control. Nature is. Nature is. It keeps everybody humble. Well, you've been shot. Yeah. You talked about it before on the podcast,

and anybody who knows you who's listening to you talk about it, you got close to death. And I think when someone has been close to death, they have more of an appreciation if you can recapture the way you felt at that moment. I can, yeah. Yeah. It changed everything. It's like changes your perspective on everything and it changes what you view as valuable.

You just, freedom, time, hard laughs, like you said, loving people. Those things, it's cliche and it sounds stupid, but I'll tell you what, it's true. It's 100% true. Because when you're in that moment, you ain't going to be thinking about your bank account. No, no, no. You're going to be thinking about survival. And it's just so easy to get, the human brain is not designed for the modern world. The human brain evolved trying to run away from predators and trying to find food. And it requires problems.

The human brain looks for problems. It looks for conflict. It looks for all these things. And, you know, ego exists because you want your genes to pass on it's the only way that the human race is successful you have to propagate you have to you have to you have to figure out a way to pass your genes and the way that the body has figured out a way to enforce that is a little bit of a trap and that's the ego the ego part of the thing is you feeling so good about

yourself that you think you should be part of the thing is you feeling so good about yourself that you think you should be passed on you know that you think your genes should keep going that you should be the one that gets the girl yeah you know it's the it makes us and it breaks it's like the same thing that takes you down is the thing that makes you there's no way out of here there's no way out of here it is it's's insanely complicated. And it's a puzzle that you have to constantly invest time in solving. You never think you got it nailed. That's the thing. You have to constantly check yourself and check it and push yourself.

And that's why I have such a problem, I think we all do, with people who make these big categorical statementsical statements like this is the answer and like that's what all these people do on twitter now that's what all these media headlines and articles are about this is what it is yeah this is who joe rogan is you're like are you fucking right i mean that's nobody's that nothing is that right nothing's like defined like that except for like math you know what i mean can't say people are changing every minute things are dynamic it's not yeah everyone's like claiming to have ownership of what things are and uh i can't believe more people aren't more skeptical of people who want to be out there i think they're being more skeptical of it now than ever, because I think overall,

we've never really had anything like social media before where you get to see people virtue signal and get to see people put out this sort of, um, these words and these messages designed to get people to like them designed to get people to literally hit that like button or hit that retweet button. I mean, that's what all, is he ratioed? Did that tweet get ratioed? And people get obsessed with that stuff. It's like that's the biggest driving force now for the generations coming up, which is scary.

Yeah. Because you create a version of yourself that's not true. And it's almost like you're in an entertainment business when you're not. But everyone's in an entertainment business, which is scary because I've met a lot of people in entertainment business and they're fucking horrible people it's not a good business to develop your you know your emotional intelligence and it's such a tricky business and the business is so

disingenuous from top to bottom you know from executives to casting directors to actors to you know everything to the press so all of it is just it's not about finding truth and being compassionate it's about bullshit and celebrating people for all the weirdest reasons right a look or yeah you know whatever it may be whatever it is it's the opposite of trying to find from actually i think if there's an opposite of searching for truth or honesty, it's entertainment. Yeah, but also sometimes not.

Like sometimes entertainment is like pure honesty. Like sometimes you'll meet someone who's like a pure artist and you have this like, oh, okay. Well, when they do that, they're never thinking about reconciling themselves with the marketplace. No. It's just they create something so incredible, the marketplace comes to it because we're

all watching something that's incredible art. My friend who's my best example of that is Gary Clark Jr. Gary Clark Jr. Do you know Gary Clark Jr.? He's one of the greatest guitarists who's ever lived. And that motherfucker doesn't give a shit about fame. He doesn't give a fuck. I mean, genuinely doesn't think about it at all.

When you talk to him, he's all just talking about his music. He's just talking about, like, creating and doing this and changing that. And he's, like, so soft-spoken, and he doesn't want attention at all. And then when that guy gets on the guitar, he's magical. Magical, man. Magical. He's so good. He's so good.

It's ironic that it's just weird that like that's not the most famous stuff. Yeah. He's pretty fucking famous. He played in front of 20,000 people. Well, that's he's famous. Jamie, you saw him last night, right? How good is that motherfucker? He's so good.

Do you think if he was like Rolling Stones known, it would kind of ruin that in him. I don't know. He doesn't give a fuck about it. It's not going to happen. He doesn't want to. Right. He doesn't care. Right.

He genuinely doesn't care. Right. He makes plenty of money. Right. He's got a beautiful wife and a happy family and everything like that. That's the best. That's him last night. Oh, so yeah, he's not.

That was in Austin last night. Mm-hmm. God damn, look at all those people. That's a lot of people. That can't just be 20,000 people. That looks like a lot more. It was pretty spread out. People sitting down and shit.

Yeah, but how many people is that? Eh. Whatever it is. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a fuckload. It was a lot. It's the most I've seen in an area in a while. It's a fuckload of people.

But he's just like, he's a real artist. And when you are around a real artist, you watch a real artist perform, it comes through like we saw him jamie and i saw him at anton's in uh in austin was like how many people were in that audience 150. that was yeah way way way less yeah that was in the early days of the pandemic where everybody caught the cooties that night everybody got it yeah someone someone had it and uh they were in the green room yeah and they spread it around to everybody. You didn't get it, though, right? No.

You got that fucking tiger blood. I do a lot of things to avoid it. You know, between all the vitamins I take and sauna use and all the wild shit that I do and taking peptides and all that stuff, I've ducked it. Which, for the record, is not officially what takes it away. What? Saunas. officially what takes it away. What? Saunas. Doesn't take it away?

Like, officially taking a sauna is not going to prevent you from getting it. I don't know what— You may have the blood type or something that doesn't get it. There's a thing—there's a study that actually just came out about virals—viral infections, rather, and sauna use. I'll send this to you. Do you sauna alone, or do you have— Nobody's going to go in there with me. I'll send this to you. Do you sauna alone or do you have- Nobody's going to go in there with me. Because the Swedes, you go up there, the whole family is there naked.

I mean, I'll go in occasionally with my wife, but I like to deep breathe and it gets uncomfortable if someone's in the room with me. I take these big, long, slow, deep breaths and then I let it out. It's like, here, I'll find this thing. and then I let it out. It's like, here, I'll find this thing. The article was about sauna linked to longer life and sauna linked to, here, I'll fucking find this thing here. The Scandinavian's been doing it for how long?

Many years. There's got to be something to it, right? Yeah. Here, I'll send it to you, Jamie. Well, in Finland, they did a study where they linked it to a 40% decrease in all-cause mortality, 175 degrees for 20 minutes four times a week, 40% decrease in strokes, cancer, heart attack, everything. Turning up the heat on COVID-19, heat as a therapeutic intervention. And this is a medical paper that was published. And the whole idea is about when your body gets sick,

when you get a viral infection, one of the things that happens is you get a fever. And what the fever is is your body trying to kill the virus. And the way your body can kill the virus is to make sure that your body temperature is so hot the virus can't survive it. That makes sense with the sauna. Right. So I do that on purpose.

Right. So I'm getting to 200 degrees sometimes four days a week at least. Dude, if you want to beat the virus, move to Phoenix. Yeah, right? Maybe those people don't get it. Just lay on the sidewalk. No, I think it's like you have to get isolated. And I think the thing that's so beneficial about the sauna is that you're trapped in this room and you can't survive at 195 degrees for very long.

You can only do it for 25 minutes or whatever it is. Right. it for 25 minutes or whatever it is and in doing that the heat shock proteins that your body produces create all these anti-inflammatory properties but also it just kills things right right right because of the heat because the level of the heat right you're fucking sweating like crazy and probably ice baths do the same thing because of the temperature right like everything is I would imagine there's some benefit there I know there's some benefit with cold shock proteins that reduce inflammation but I don't know if it works the same way with viruses. Right.

Did you see that paper that I sent you? I didn't get a link, but I found it too. I just sent it to you. Did it come through? I just got it. Oh, it came through. I have the same one looking at it anyway. Yeah, so there's people that are considering all sorts of different things,

and this is one of them, turning up the heat on COVID-19. Heat as a therapeutic intervention. And so this is a peer-reviewed paper i believe and it's all about um the idea of stop right there um sarx cov2 are sensitive to heat and destroyed by temperatures tolerable to humans all mammals use fever to deal with infections and heat has long been used throughout human history in the form of hot springs, saunas. I don't know what the hell. Hamams.

Hamams? Steam rooms, sweat lodges. The paper reviews the evidence for using heat to treat and prevent viral infections and discuss potential cellular, physiological, and psychological mechanisms of action. In the initial phase of infection, heat is applied to the upper airways and it can support the immune system's first line of defense by supporting mycomuco, I guess that's mucus, muco, M-U-C-O, mucociliary clearance and inhibiting or deactivating virans where they first lodge. This may be further enhanced by the inhalation of steam

containing essential oils with antiviral, mucolic, mucolitic, mucolitic, mucolitic, and antialytic. They make medical words. Anxiolytic properties. They make it so hard, the words. Heat applied to the whole body can further support the immune system's second line of defense by mimicking fever and activating innate and acquired immune defenses

and building physiological resilience. I guarantee you it has something to do with it, man. I know so many fucking people around me that have gotten COVID while I didn't get it. I'm not saying it's 100% the reason why because I think it's a combination of a lot of other things. I take a shitload of vitamins. Right. And there's a lot of other things that I do.

I make sure I get rest and I exercise all the time. A lot of cardiovascular exercise, weightlifting, all that stuff. Right, you're a healthy guy. But I think the sauna, it has an effect, man. There's no way it doesn't.

It makes you feel great. Yeah, it's definitely good for you. They know that for sure. Yeah. Yeah, like they know that it is good for you whether you're trying to fight a virus or not or avoid a virus. It's good for you. Yeah, and there has been studies about decrease in viral infections from people that use sauna. decrease in viral infections from people that use sauna.

I think they showed a 50% decrease in people that use saunas on a regular basis or 50% less likely. I forget that study, though. I forget where that study came from. But if it was true, though, then Sweden wouldn't have had a problem with COVID because they all sauna. Do they all? I doubt they all. A lot of them sauna.

I bet a lot of them do. What does that mean? A lot of Americans play football. I don't play football. You know what I'm saying? It's like, what is all? I doubt they all. A lot of them sauna. I bet a lot of them do. What does that mean? A lot of Americans play football. I don't play football. You know what I'm saying? It's like, what is all? Like, you're known for hot dogs in America. How many people eat hot dogs here?

I haven't had a hot dog in years. You're the exception. But you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like- People eat hot. A lot of people eat hot dogs. But Americans are no-

Hot dogs cured COVID. No Americans would have hot dogs. There's fucking millions of Americans that go years without hot dogs. I'd be curious. How many Swedes take sauna? That's a good question It doesn't say But they have a capita One per household

I mean that's a lot dude Yeah I told you Right but I have one in my household My fucking kids never go in there That's true While it's partially cellular It's also responsible Because of the weather

Finnish winters Are the low of 35 degrees Celsius. Yikes. It's a cultural thing for them. They go in the whole family. Grandma's titties are there. Like, everyone sees each other as naked. You know?

It's like, when I would go perform there, when I started, like, early in my comedy career, I would go there and perform, and they would invite me into the sun, and I just wasn't comfortable enough to be naked with them. Yeah. Why'd they have to be naked? They can't wear underwear? They're fucking weirdos? They're cool with it.

Like, they're just cool with it. They just check out cocks. They just check out cock. They're just different. They like saunas. They drink. Dude, they're like gremlins. The Finnish, they're nice and cute and cuddly.

During the day, they're shy. They don't make eye contact. They're very nice. And then they drink and they become fucking assholes. Really? Yeah. Really? Their. Really? Their personalities change like crazy.

Like in what way? They just become like caustic and kind of like aggressive. Really? Yeah. To you or to everybody? To me, to everybody. They become animals. Yeah, they're like gremlins.

You pour a little fucking liquor on them, they change. Wow. It's wild, dude. I don't think they have... I remember reading somewhere that northern europeans struggle more with alcohol and don't have as good a tolerance as southern europeans because southern europeans have had alcohol for a lot longer similar to the asians who don't do great with it either native americans there's some enzyme or some shit that like southern europeans

have and that's why we have less of an incidence of alcoholism than the Northern Europeans who can't handle their liquor because they're fucking animals. I would think that it's also because of the depression that comes from the lack of sunshine. They have the highest suicide rate. Highest suicide rates in one of those countries. Norway, Sweden. Really?

Yeah, they offed themselves. Yeah, because it's just dark all the time. Fuck that. Well, that's the direct correlation between the Pacific Northwest, right? Yeah, they offed themselves. Yeah, because it's just dark all the time. Fuck that. Well, that's the direct correlation between the Pacific Northwest, right? Yeah. High suicide rate up there. Yep. Alaska. Also high heroin use. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. That's taking over the whole country, though.

Heroin. It's big. And you know what's interesting? It kind of got big when we got control of Afghanistan. That's a coincidence. Cheap burger. Don't be an asshole. Poppy seeds got cheaper. It's a total coincidence. Just because the American military was guarding the poppy fields on TV.

Did you ever see that video? No. Geraldo Rivera interviewing a general while the general was standing in front of, like, literally you're looking at troops guarding poppy fields. Yeah, it's obvious. It's like what? And then it becomes like the most popular drug in the suburbs in America. It's like affordable.

It's kind of weird. Yeah, that one's kind of weird. That one's kind of fucking obvious. It's not just obvious. It goes all the way back to the Vietnam War. Yeah. There it is. So Harald, play some of this because it's kind of hilarious.

Fighting the opium trade. What? I don't hear. The Taliban lend the farmers the money. They are indebted to the Taliban. They have to grow the opium. Now the Marines in their success are in a sense a victim of their success because now the population is, you know, they have these opium fields and we are tolerating it. And we are tolerating it.

We are tolerating the cultivation of the opium because we know that if we were to destroy it now, the population would turn against the Marines and it would be a real security risk. Let me introduce Lieutenant Colonel Brian Christmas. What a spin. Yeah. Listen to the spin. The 3rd Battalion, 6th Marines. Really a wonderful group of Marines here.

Wonderful group of heroin guards. Yeah. This contradiction, the fact that here you have one of the best fighting forces in the world ever mounted, and in a sense you're watching as this opium is being grown. I know it grinds at your gut. How do you know it grinds at his gut? Frankly, this is part of their culture. So while it might grind in my gut, it's what they do. We provide them security.

We're providing them resources, and we're providing them alternatives. And they provide us with a kickback when we sell them. Did you ever see when Sturgill Simpson got on Saturday Night Live, he sang a song that talked about it, talked about protecting the heroin trade. No, I didn't. Yeah. They probably got a little piece of that. No? We'll protect, you know, I didn't. Yeah. Yeah. They probably got a little, they got a piece of that.

No? We'll protect, you know, just give us a little. Something is being exchanged. People are making money. Who are those people? I don't know, but there's obviously

a lot of money in heroin. They're not growing it for fun. No, and it's killing like suburban kids. Like I have, my wife's friend was like this nice kid and like he died

from a heroin overdose and like the people who are dying from heroin overdoses now don't look like your stereotypical heroin user from like the 80s you know they look like just normal kids and they're in high school and they come from good families and for some reason they're doing fucking heroin well it's also very contradictory it's confusing because the real solution is probably legalization of everything across the board that's probably the real solution usage for sure because the problem is you have these cartels that are bringing this stuff into America legal illegally rather and they're also spiking

everything with fentanyl because it's cheaper, so they cut things. And so these kids get a hold of people that are addicted. They get a hold of this fentanyl-laced shit and have these fucking horrible overdoses. And the reason why they're overdosing is because it's illegal, because you don't know what the exact dosage is. Like, people are going to overdose from alcohol. They're going to die from it. But if you buy a bottle of this, how do you say that name? Laphroaig.

Laphroaig. Laphroaig. It's very good, right? Very good. If you're into smoky, peaty. I love that stuff. Yeah, scotch, yeah. You know what it is.

One shot is one shot, right? It's not one shot with fentanyl in it. It might kill you. These kids are getting a hold of this stuff. These people, I should say. It's not just kids. They're getting a hold of this stuff and it's laced. Why is it laced?

It's laced because it's unregulated. Why is it unregulated? Because it's illegal. Right. Why is it illegal? Because we have a fucking war on substances that doesn't make any sense. It's a war on freedom, essentially. Your freedom to do whatever you want with your body.

Right. Right. No, it's, you know, that's a well-documented argument i think portugal right they uh legalize decriminalize decriminalize the usage of it but it's still illegal to sell it right which seems like a pretty uh reasonable way to handle it yeah like okay like if you're dealing with this bad because we know that it's bad for people but we can't criminalize the users of it. Those people are sick and they're addicted.

They're not committing a crime to anyone else. They're hurting themselves. It's a step in the right direction, but why is it legal to sell? Like Carl Hart, I bring up way too often on the podcast, but I do it because I love him. Dr. Carl Hart, who's a professor at Columbia, he talks about how he likes heroin. He enjoys it, but he gets pure heroin. He sn about how he likes heroin, enjoys it, but he gets pure heroin and he sniffs it. Does he microdose it or he goes full blown?

He sniffs it. Wow. You have to talk to him about it. Yeah. But when you talk about his perspective, his perspective is he was a clinical researcher and had this idea of drugs, that drugs are terrible, terrible for you, but along the line, doing his research,

he realized that the propaganda about what drugs are is very different than the actual drugs themselves. Interesting. He likes drugs. Right. And he talks about like, you can use drugs and be happy and successful. He's like, it's not the problem. The problem is a lack of education, a lack of understanding about the actual effects of these drugs, propaganda. I mean, Freud used to sniff blow. Oh, I'm sure. Just to blow lines, yeah.

Some weird fucking ideas, too. Yeah. So I don't, I'm pretty sure you said you haven't seen the show The Wire before. No, I've never seen the whole. So there's a concept

in like season three or four called, fuck, it's Tim Dillon actually. Is it? He was calling, yeah. That twat. It's called, they call this section of an area of four called. Oh, your fucking phone again. It's Tim Dillon, actually. Is it? He was calling, yeah. That twat. They called a section of an area of town called Hamsterdam, like Amsterdam, where what you're

saying is allowed. The police blocked off a couple blocks. They said no gangs allowed to fight in here. They protected that area for drug users. So I just was Googling that because I thought I'd heard something about this happening. Where is this? It's the show The Wire. Fictional in Baltimore.

Oh, okay. However, there's a press release that came out from the state attorney in Baltimore where they said there are no law. It says, in quotes, Today, America's war on drug users is over in the city of Baltimore. We leave behind a tough on-crime prosecution and zero-tolerance policing. They said down here they're going to stop prosecuting the following offenses. Whoa.

Drug possession. Attempted distribution of—what is—controlled substances? Is that what it is? Probably, yeah. Partifinalia possession. Prostitution. Holla. Trespassing.

Minor—trespassing is a problem. You can't just have people trespassing in people's houses. Minor traffic offenses, great. Open containers, great. Rogue and vagabond. Urinating and defecating in public. Maybe you should probably stop people from shitting in public.

It added that to you, but the rest of it is. You know, like, guys feel free to shit on Main Street. It's wide open. Furthermore, during this past year, they have dismissed 1,423 pending cases considered eligible by COVID policies, quashed 1,415 warrants for aforementioned offenses, pushed Governor Hogan to reduce the prison population, resulting in two executive orders of the early release of 2,000 people. Violent crimes down, property crime down.

Wow. It's been successful, yeah. That's amazing. Violent crime down 20%, property crime down 36% during the same period of March 13, 2020 to March 13, 2021. That's amazing. Well, that's good, except I'm down with all those things except for shitting in the street and breaking into people's houses.

The data show that 911 calls about drug use, public intoxication, and sex work, a proxy for public concern, did not increase when following the policy. Rather, from March until December 2020, there was a 33% reduction in calls mentioning drugs and a 50% reduction in calls mentioning sex work. Who's calling and ratting on people getting laid? Yeah. Fucking weirdos. You know, The Wire, dude, they teach classes about that at Harvard. It was an exceptional show. Yeah, I know it was a really good show, and I know a lot of people, Bourdain always raved about it.

I just never got around to watching it. What he was mentioning was, yeah, the police in an episode decide, all all right this is how we're gonna handle drugs and they district they like de facto district like a block where they allow it to happen and it works like so they go like okay you can do that here so they could they controlled it and like you couldn't do it outside of the de facto district that the cops created um and then it just like crime went down things were because they were like we're not going to stop this people are going to get high didn't new york city recently decriminalized prostitution i know they decriminalized gambling i don't know about because they need the money yeah gambling they need the money but did they

make it legal i think they made it legal like what kind of gambling i think uh sports gambling oh i think they did i think they decriminalized gambling i like that and they tax it yeah tax it why not yeah i don't know about prostitution new york city sex workers rampant an open-air prostitution market amid lax enforcement i think it's not just lax enforcement google new york city decriminalizes prostitution. That girl has a very nice ass for a prostitute. NYPD issues new guidance after repeal of walking while trans law. What is that?

Walking while trans law. NYPD officers are told to no longer arrest people who appear to be loitering for prostitution in response to repeal of New York State's walking while trans law. Does that mean you're walking while you're transsexual? I guess. I thought they decriminalized prostitution. I think that was like an order. It says effective immediately.

Officers may not arrest an individual for this charge. All other crimes related to prostitution under Article 230 in New York all remain in effect. Oh. Well, you know what, man? I think people should be able to do whatever they want to do. Hell yeah. I don't want anybody to be a prostitute, but why?

I do. Get that money, girl. Why can't you if you want to? Yeah. It's a job. Who was I talking to when we were talking about people who fuck guys for money? Ari, right? Yeah. Yeah. job who was he talking to we were talking about people who fuck guys for money ari right yeah yeah ari was saying that uh there's girls that he knows that will have sex with wasn't ari no it wasn't ari it wasn't ari it was something i don't know anyway they were saying that they know

people who fuck a certain number of guys that they're kind of friendly with. For money. For money. And that's how they make a living. And they only, look, if you can get a guy to pay you a thousand bucks or two thousand bucks every time you have sex, which is a lot of money, and you only have to do it a couple times a week. Hell yeah.

Why is that so terrible? If you get to choose. I don't see why it's bad at all. I can't think of one reason why it's bad at all. I really can't. You can fuck him for free for free yeah why can't you fuck them for money if you're an adult making that decision right you legalize prostitution you get rid of the trade you get rid of the illegal like trade you get rid of sex trafficking i mean it's gonna happen anyway it's the oldest profession i mean that's why i think ultimately beautiful women are still around because it's

evolutionary theory if you think about it smart chicks who are not that good looking, if there's a war or a famine, you can't do anything with like a sociology thesis. But you can sell pussy. You can always sell pussy. If there's a war or a famine, at least they can – But maybe they can innovate. Maybe they can figure out a way to cure the disease. Maybe. Maybe they can develop weapons to fight off assholes.

That's true. But you could also sell your pussy to a war to cure the disease. Maybe. Maybe they can develop weapons to fight off assholes. That's true. But you could also sell your pussy to a warlord and survive. Good point. So maybe that's why pretty women still are preferred by the male. I'm just talking as a scientist, which I am. How much horrible shit went down in Russia while Stalin was there and during World War II? And think about how many hot women come from Russia. Yeah.

There you go. They survived by selling pushpush. If there was a chart of the percentage of hot women from Russia, it would be very high. They're gorgeous. Smoking, scary hot, ruin your whole life women. Yeah. Just to remind you, I hate when people go, you know, those communists, like, communism's never been tried. I'm like, what the fuck?

What planet have you been living on? It's been tried a few times. Like, it hasn't been tried in its purest form. It's like, nothing exists in its purest form. No. You can't even make a perfect circle mathematically. The problem with communism is that they want, ultimately, you want equality of outcome. And equality of outcome is very dangerous

because there's not equality of effort. It's like you need incentives to get things done. And the way you incentivize someone to get things done is like you can get more if you work harder. You can do more. You can have more things. You can do better. You can survive. And if you're lazy, you're disincentivized.

You don't get anything if you're lazy. If you don't contribute, you have to contribute. And the problem with communism, what communism that we're aware of is mostly communist dictatorships. They force you into these occupations. They tell you what you can and can't do. What's weird about China is that it's kind of a hybrid. Right, it is. They did that. They opened up the market to kind of, yeah, it's a hybrid.

It changed everything. Yeah, they're doing well because they have some elements of capitalism in there. It's also dangerous because it elevates the group over the individual. And once you start doing that, then an individual just becomes a disposable person subject to the group. When the group is really just a collection of individuals. So when you do that leap of logic, you're fucked. The individual has no rights it's just this idea of the group or the nation or you know and it discourages creativity totally that's the problem it really discourages creativity and creativity

is so important for a culture to innovate for a culture to like one of the things about america is america is arguably the freest country in the world, but also arguably the most influential worldwide in terms of culture. Totally. And you know what? When it comes to, like, music and fashion and stuff like that, you got to give a shout out to African-Americans. Most popular culture in the world. For sure. The most influential in terms of cultural i mean music

art comedy fashion yeah i mean it's like all the way to the east it's gone all the way to japan i mean break dancing in japan i mean hip-hop culture is like the most prevalent culture like black culture is everywhere out of pressure creates diamonds. It's crazy, dude. Like a wild? Yeah, like an oppressed minority, an enslaved population here in America, in the West, in the new world, influence the entire world with their culture. It's also wild if you think about how many of the most influential artists that are African-Americans came out of oppressive environments. Came out of bad neighborhoods, came out of oppressive environments yeah came out of bad neighborhoods came out of gang infested neighborhoods almost all of the best hip-hop yeah right yeah and if

your projects joe uh joe dimaggio said you know there's rich people don't make uh make the big leagues they you know you just can't be rich and make the big leagues i mean it goes for sports it goes for everything i mean there's no very i, Bill Lane Beer in basketball is an exception. He came from a wealthy family. But 99.9% of guys that make it to the NBA all come from poor backgrounds because it gives them that drive. It's really prevalent fighting. And that's why we need poverty. You can't have a war on poverty because then you have a war on greatness because that makes people great.

Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Take that, AOC. You can't say that, but it's kind of true. Yeah. I mean, were you born rich? No. Yeah.

Look at what you became. If you were born rich, you wouldn't be motivated to do any of this shit. You'd be sitting around. You'd be a DJ like the rest of them. I wonder. You'd just be a DJ with Michael Douglas' son doing drugs. Ah!

You'd be a DJ like the rest of them. I wonder. You'd just be a DJ with Michael Douglas' son doing drugs. Ah! Doesn't he notice all celebrity sons just become DJs or something? Oh, it's so dangerous. And drugs. Tom Hanks' kid's a rapper. I love that kid.

Is he? Chad Hanks is one of my favorite. I love him. Really? People look at him the wrong way. I feel like in this era of being a celebrity online and creating your own thing, I think he's doing better than the other son who looks like Tom Hanks. Because this kid doesn't look like either.

He doesn't look like Rita Wilson or Tom Hanks. Does he look like the milkman? He looks like he was created in a lab. Oh, really? Yeah, like everyone from the Mickey Mouse Club. I believe the Mickey Mouse Club. You ever met—who's Justin Timberlake's father? We don't know. Never seen him.

I don't even know if he has a dad. Exactly, because his fucking mother is Madonna. They took DNA from Madonna. They mixed it with the Bee Gees kids. All three of them. And they fucking made that kid. They're all made. Christina Aguilera, a little fucking Hispanic girl from Pennsylvania

can sing like Aretha Franklin? How is that possible without eugenics? Science. Science. Maybe. Shaquille O'Neal didn't have a pops. Where's his dad? I think he met his dad later in life.

That's the story. Yeah. You tell me a seven-foot guy that can move that fast. LeBron James, where's his dad? Nobody knows. These people are fucking engineers. I'm telling you. I think they know. They don't know. LeBron James' dad. Look at. These people are fucking engineers. I'm telling you. I think they know.

They don't know. LeBron James' dad. Look at him. He has no father. He's just his mom. I'm telling you, the government got involved to make these people. Like, you know, the way the Russians used to make athletes? We're fucking done.

Let me ask you this. What do you think about this whole Britney Spears thing? And the conservatorship. Conservatorship. Right. Her dad gets to control, like control what she spends money on. I would do the same thing if I fucking dumped Justin. If I was your dad and I watched my daughter cheat on Justin Timberlake to marry Kevin Federline,

I'd lock that pussy up too and say, girl, you're making bad decisions and you're not capable of thinking on your own. But why can't a grown adult just be crazy? Like, no one's, like, what if someone came along and said to Cat Williams, hey, you're just fighting 17-year-olds and you're doing coke and screaming at the audience. You can't. This is not good anymore. We're gonna

have to work this out. Like, you're gonna have to have a conservatorship. We'd be like, what? Let him go. No, you can never have that. you can never have uh like an african-american man who's crazy who gets controlled by his parents yeah who who is an entertainer well michael michael jackson had a little bit of that but not when he was an adult no he was a child but that arguably fucked him up beyond repair he controlled controlled some children. Yeah. No for sure Yeah, but the like the the thing with Britney Spears is that she's a girl. She's a woman right and we're saying she's crazy

She can't handle things. So let her dad take care of things. Can't do that anymore Could you imagine that if that was a male crazy? But you imagine if you had a dad and your dad said Giannis you have to keep performing in Vegas, and I get whatever I get, $150 a month. I'm fist fighting him. Yeah. Yeah. She's an adult now. They got to revoke that.

I mean, it's crazy that it exists and that it still exists. And the whole family's in on it, too. It's real nefarious. I think the sister is stealing her songs and performing them, like Gallagher's brother. What? Yep. Look that one up. It's Britney, too It's her name's Jamie to the father's name is Jamie and the sister's name is Jamie

Because it's some weird. I'm telling you the government's involved man I'm telling you that Mickey Mouse go Ryan Gosling with the fucking kids Canadian, dude And he's in the Mickey Mouse Club. No father. We don't know about his family. I'm telling you, they made them in labs. And then they become megastars? All of them? Well, Disney's a factory for megastars. Factory, dude.

But you don't think the government, CIA's involved in that? Project Mickey Mouse? Maybe. I'm telling you. Maybe someone needs to write a book about that. I'm working on it. Think about it. Justin Timber on it. Think about it. Justin Timberlake.

He can dance. Video of Britney looking annoyed at Jamie Lynn singing her song is going viral amid their drama. And she even mentioned it. She mentioned it. Like, my sister singing my songs. Did you see that meltdown she had on Instagram where she cursed them all out and she's saying fucking and motherfucker? Really? Yeah.

So I quit. I don't like that my sister showed up at an award show and performed my songs to remixes. My so-called support system hurt me. Yeah, man, the whole thing is weird. I don't think it would happen if it wasn't a woman. I don't think you would be able to control a man like that. That's what's fucked about this. We're saying that she's helpless, but she's a grown adult.

Isn't she like 36 years old or something? Closer to 40, I think, yeah. Why are they letting this happen? I don't understand it. Don't know. Is it California? Is it a California court that did this? I don't know.

I don't know. But I feel like, yeah, it's an odd thing. Maybe the government knows she knows something and they're keeping her. I mean, dude, think about Justin Timberlake. He can sing. He can dance. He's good looking. He can act.

He's a scratch golfer. Is he? He's good at basketball. He's a scratch golfer. Really? How many dudes you know who can do that many things that great? He's a great – he can sing. He's actually like a good artist.

He taught himself how to play instruments. He's handsome. He's a good, funny actor. He can do comedy. Remember that dick in a box shit? Yes. The dude has too much talent to be human. He's a white Jamie Foxx. Dude, he's a white Jamie Foxx. Where's his

father, Jamie Foxx? Jamie Foxx might be the most talented guy in all of Hollywood. His talent is hard to even fathom. It's unfathomable. He can sing. He does amazingly accurate impressions. Crazy. He does stand-up comedy.

He can act. He can do everything. Yeah. He can do everything. He's going to play Mike Tyson in a movie, and he's getting jacked. And he'll do it. Have you seen it? I haven't seen it.

He's jacked. Right. He's gonna play Mike Tyson in a movie, and he's getting jacked. And he'll do it. Have you seen it? I haven't seen it. He's jacked! Right. He's getting huge. His, when he did, when he played Ray Charles, it was like incredible. Yeah. Incredible.

Amazing. Yeah. Well, his voice is insane. Yeah, and he's had hit songs. Yes. Like, hit songs. Right. Yeah.

Like, he could literally do anything he wants. Yeah. There's some people who are just born with like a natural talent that only leads to one place, CIA. Dude, we're three hours in, believe it or not. Right on. This is a fun- Fun is fun.

Thank you, my brother. No, thank you. Thank you. Anytime, my friend. I appreciate this. Tell everybody all your different podcasts. You got like 34 different podcasts you're doing simultaneously. Just the important one is Long Days with Giannis Pappas.

That's my solo pod. It's going real well. Please check it out, Long Days with Giannis Pappas. Where's it available? It's available on all podcast apps, and you can watch it on YouTube. What was that? YouTube, yeah. It's on YouTube and all the podcast apps.

The new sports podcast with Olivia is called Unleashed, and you can find that wherever you listen to podcasts, too. But long days. Giannis Papas, ladies and gentlemen. Good night, everybody.