The Joe Rogan Experience - #1694 - Ms. Pat & Jordan E. Cooper
Episode Date: August 11, 2021Ms. Pat is a standup comedian, a host of "The Patdown" podcast, and star of the BET+ series "The Ms. Pat Show." Jordan E. Cooper is a playwright, writer and co-creator & executive producer of "The... Ms. Pat Show."
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The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
Oh, hello, Ms. Pat.
Hello, Joe Rogan.
Good to see you again.
Please introduce your friend.
This is Jordan E. Cooper, the co-creator of The Ms. Pat Show.
Which, by the way, is a fucking hilarious show.
I was nervous.
When friends say, I got a new show, you're like, way, is a fucking hilarious show. I was nervous. When friends say,
I got a new show,
you're like,
oh, I gotta watch this shit.
Because so many times
you watch your friend's show
and it's not good.
Your show is fucking good.
It's a real solid sitcom.
Thank you.
Bravo.
And right out of the gate,
it's solid.
You know, sitcoms take years
to get their legs.
At least a few episodes.
But right out of the gate,
your show is very solid.
I wish you knew how hard it was for me to text you to ask you to watch it.
I text, I type the text, and I was like, oh, I can't.
Because I know how honest you are.
And then when I was like, it took me months.
And I was like, but I got to ask him.
Because I was like, if Joe like it, then I feel like it was a seal,
a solid foundation.
And I was like, if I could just, because I got already to watch it.
He's like, it's really good.
And I was like, I just want to see if Joe will watch it.
And I know how fucking busy you are.
And I kept, when I sent the text, I was like, oh, my God.
Oh, my God, he's not going to watch it now.
And when I hit you back, hey, and he was like, I'm in the Mediterranean.
Whatever the fuck that word you use.
You're somewhere where birds don't have wings, but they still fly.
You was on vacation.
Where was I?
Somewhere rich people go. Birds don't have wings wings but they still fly. You was on vacation. Where was I? Somewhere rich people go.
Birds don't have wings
but they still fly?
What kind of riddle is this?
What the fuck?
It's called a crackhead.
That's called a riddle.
Birds don't have wings
but they still fly?
I just imagine
that's where the fuck
you was at.
I can't.
Something heavily placed.
I can't afford to go.
Oh, okay.
I was on vacation.
You was on vacation vacation I think you said
you was in the Mediterranean
I'm fucking up the word
probably the Caribbean
it started with an M
M?
I don't fucking know
I was so
probably
we was texting
so
and when you started
to text me like
what you
the jokes in the show
I was like
you don't know how much air
went out of my titties
that day Joe
it's a good show I'm very happy it's a good show The jokes in the show, I was like, you don't know how much air went out of my titties that day, Joe.
It's a good show.
I'm very happy it's a good show.
I'm very happy.
It's rock solid.
It really is. Thank you.
We worked our ass off to get it.
It was so hard with a comedy because to me, comedy is so rehashed.
And I feel like Hollywood is so out of ideal.
That's why we're getting all these fucking reboots.
Even with the pilot,
we went through the hand and toe
to make sure you haven't heard it.
Original jokes.
The original jokes.
And a lot of it is my stand up.
And so that was another thing.
I was like,
should I send you all this?
Oh, his auntie's opinion.
And I asked you for your auntie's opinion.
You was like,
oh, Pet,
I really don't want to watch it
because I don't like watching my friends.
I said,
just watch the shit.
You can't hurt my feelings.
I've been shot. I've had gunner real.
I've been hit by the freaking fucking thing.
Give it to me, Joe. Like, hard
dick with no condom. And so
you text back and
I immediately text him and say, look what
fucking Joe Rogan said.
The N-word.
And I pulled it.
Because your
fucking podcast is so big.
She said the N i'll jump again
fuck you but um i even said it in the past on here well i i take it so i said nigga look what
i said wake your black ass up nigga joe rogan like our show
and like i said it takes a while like when when I did news radio, that was in the 90s,
it took like four or five episodes before the show really started finding its way.
It takes a while.
It does.
It does.
I like for – I first saw Pat like maybe – I was a senior in high school.
I'm 26 now.
I was a senior in high school.
My dad had recorded her on this daytime talk show,
and he was like, you got to watch her.
Harry Connick Jr.
Yes, Harry Connick Jr.
Harry Connick Jr.
I remember that show.
You were on that show?
Yes.
Yep.
Wow.
My dad was like, you got to watch her.
She's hilarious.
You'll love her.
You'll love her.
And so I sat down and watched, and I just fell in love
because I like to do the type of comedy where it's like
you laugh over the pain, you laugh over it,
you laugh through it, and that's her life. That's Miss Pat.'s miss that's her brand and so i was like damn like whenever she gets a
book i'm gonna read that damn book like i'm gonna study it that's gonna be my shit then i got to
college book came out it was like 35 i couldn't afford it so i screenshotted i was like i'm gonna
come back and i'm gonna get this book when i get some money never was able to get the book but i
wrote this play called ain't no more that went to the public in New York what's it called it was called Ain't No Mo and it was at the public
theater and Lee Daniels saw it and after he saw it he was like hey we're trying to do a TV show
for this comedian her name is Miss Pat but we don't really have a concept nobody really knows
what they want to do so can you just read her book and see if you can come up with a concept
for a show and I was just happy to get the damn. But I read it and I just fell in love and I immediately saw this sitcom in my head.
Because I'm a big fan of like old school sitcoms like All in the Family, The Jeffersons, Good Times with a live studio audience.
And I just felt like putting like her in this dollhouse of a sitcom and just burning all of it down.
Put your hands down, son.
Goddamn, you're talking with your hands.
Goddamn, Joe Rogan.
It's true from our talk.
He's expressing himself.
I'm a homosexual.
We talk with our hands.
Homosexual.
He's expressing himself.
Now you're out here
trying to get me on the spot.
Let him express himself.
Is that what he's doing?
Yeah.
With the hands?
No, he's throwing that gay shout out.
It's a mating call.
You didn't hear?
How do you get men with your hands?
It's a mating call.
Dick, Dick, Dick.
You just said Dick.
That's it?
I'm learning so much today.
Birds who fly with no wings.
This is how you get Dick.
Put your hands down, Joe.
You can get Dick.
Put your hands down.
For you to be 26
and to create a show
is pretty fucking amazing
it was a ride Joe
because when Lee first
brought this kid to me
and I'm honest
and I know Hollywood
is full of shit
and it's so hard
to get people
in the industry
not to sound like
a talking fucking Ted
everybody say
the same goddamn thing
and I was just I have to break him down either you be honest with me or I don't fuck with you so when I met him
and Lee was like oh I got this kid he fell out of heaven and da da da and I'm like okay Lee and he
told me I'm in I'm in fucking Utah so I'm performing he said get your ass on the plane you gotta go see
the play it's the last night I said uh I don't know if you know how this shit work but I'm a
comedian I'll get paid tomorrow and I ain't going no goddamn where.
I need my little pennies, okay?
So they put me on a plane.
I flew over to watch him.
And I pick up me.
I deal with people with spirits, your energy.
I can just tell if you're a good person.
I can tell when shit is going to happen.
And when I met him, I said, he could do it.
And the first thing I did, I called him.
And I said, they're never going to give you this job.
He said, but Lee said they're going to hire me.
I said, no, they're not.
He said, why you say that?
I said, because you ain't never did shit and they don't understand.
Hollywood want what everybody else's want.
They don't want you until somebody else done fucked you and bust your booty hole.
I mean, take that out.
Take that out.
No, keep it in there.
Keep it in there keep it in there
Hollywood don't want you
I didn't know
I didn't mean to say that
it's true
you did mean to say it
you meant it
you're trying to get me
canceled
no I'm trying to get you
elevated
they don't want you
until somebody else
doesn't bust you in
it's true
now he got all
kind of interviews
but I sat him down
and I said
they're going to take you
to fancy dinners
and try to blow
your fucking mind. I said, if you listen
to a real nigga like me, we can
do this. I said, now I'm going to be honest with you.
Lee is busting his ass to
get this job for you. I said, but
while Lee is busting his ass to get you this
job, let me show you how to get this job. He said,
what I got to do? I said, let's write a pilot
behind these motherfuckers back. And I started
to tell him what the other two writers
wouldn't listen to me on.
And he listened.
And we wrote that motherfucking
by eight days.
So when we finished it,
I said,
he put his name on it.
I said,
take your fucking name off.
Which I was like,
what?
I was like,
what?
Because,
let me tell you what, I'm a hood bitch.'m a hood i mean i'm i everything for me come from the
knowledge that i got from streets okay you can never outsmart me because i'm fun you might can
spell a word right but motherfucker i got google and two daughters with a college degree so i get
your ass back on that too so i told him i said take your name off he's like why i said because
if they don't like it they're not gonna
give you the fucking job
but if I tell them
I did it
I'm the star
of the show
they're gonna
oh Miss Pepper
throw that shit
in the trash can
we're gonna get you a writer
so what we did
he took his name off
I said one thing
you ain't never
gotta worry about me doing
is stealing shit from you
I'm not that type of person
I said
what the fuck
I look like stealing shit
these people know
I can't spell all this shit
correctly
that's exactly and that's exactly what she did she called Lee I said, what the fuck I look like stealing shit? These people know I can't spell all this shit correctly.
And that's exactly what she did.
She called Lee and she sent it to Lee.
And Lee Carr said, who the fuck wrote this?
And she said, me.
He said, no, you didn't, bitch, because everything's spelled right.
That's what he said.
And I said, and that's when I said, me and Jordan wrote.
And you want to hear something so crazy?
So this kid just graduated college, right?
And he was like, just drop out of college.
You're going to be a fan.
I said, don't you drop out of fucking college.
So I asked him, I said, do you have final draft?
He's like, no, he's poor as fuck.
He said, I don't have final draft.
I said, nigga, take my credit card.
Take my debit card.
Go buy you some grocery have a final draft. I said, nigga, take my credit card. Take my debit card. Go buy you some grocery and buy a final draft.
All I imagined had me interviewing writers, Joe.
Me and him, I said, right, nigga, right.
They got me another interview.
Right, nigga, right.
But what's funny, though, it was something I was talking about this yesterday.
I was like, it takes a lot to earn Pat's trust in that sense.
Because she was literally, it was like she was entrusting me with her comedy and her story.
And so, like, it was funny where, like, I would write a draft of something and I would send it over to her.
And she would read it.
She'd be like, nigga, why you got me cussing?
I said, because that's how you talk. She said, nigga, I don't motherfucking talk like that. Take that shit out. I said, no, that's how you talk. She said, nigga, I don't motherfucking talk like that.
Take that shit out.
That's how you talk.
And I was like, we have to do a new kind of sitcom.
I wanted to do something where it's like you could just be yourself.
You know, because you look at all those old shows.
You look at Sanford and Son with Redd Foxx or even the Richard Pryor show that he had for like three seconds.
It's like imagine if he was just allowed to be himself.
That show would have lasted forever.
And it's like, imagine if he was just allowed to be himself.
Right, right. That show would have lasted forever.
Well, Sanford and Son, Redd Foxx got as close as you can get on a network television show to being Redd Foxx.
Yep, exactly.
About as close as you can get.
Exactly.
But they don't do those anymore.
They scared.
And when he came to me and he said, well, actually, after we wrote the pilot, they immediately gave him a job.
After we wrote the pilot, they was like, this kid can write.
And I told him, I said, see, I know what the fuck I'm talking about.
Because Hollywood is so stripped.
They scared to step outside the box.
They're going to give you the same old bullshit.
We need a black writer.
Well, that black writer might not understand what the fuck Miss Pat trying to do.
And I went through a few that did not understand what I was trying to do.
With him, I took him and I said if you just listen we can create something just
listen to these stories i just need you to put the in the right form and he did and he got the
job well as a 26 year old man you're willing to take chances too that's something when people
get to be 46 and they've got all this stuff behind him and then they're worried about offending or
they're worried about pissing off the network or they're worried about you know getting on the
wrong side of the executives you gotta believe in your project huh I say you
were scared of me I was cuz he pushed me he was like we're not gonna say that
that's not what we gonna do who well he pushed me a lot and it made me realize
oh well this is something different why not try something did at least one thing
I learned about this idea Joe if you're gonna go down go down for what you
believe right because I almost went down twice go down for what you believe in. Because I almost went
down twice for what I did not believe
in. And we was close to shooting this
thing once before. And I was like,
I'm so glad that I stood up
and said, I'm so glad I didn't
need the money. When you need the money,
boy, you get in the bed with the
devil. But I used to tell them, y'all could
never give me as much as I could steal.
Exactly. devil yeah but I used to tell him y'all could never give me as much as I could steal and so I just I just when I met him and I said I'm willing I don't care
I mean that was a third holding deal so I'm not I wasn't rich but I could buy
better weeks and I was on the road and I was selling my t-shirts so I was cool
and I was saying I'm we gonna stick together and we're going to fight for what we want.
And we did.
The show that you showed me is about as close to you as you could get.
It's right there.
It's me.
It's right there and it's just starting.
That's what's amazing.
It's like if you get one of those shows and you get let it breathe
and grow and give it a couple of months and give it six episodes give it 10 episodes give it a year
give it second season fuck you have you got a real good shot with the show a real good shot and i was
so happy when you told me that that night it's real it's very good it made me laugh hard thank
you y'all hear that?
Don't be scared to come on over to BET Plus, white people.
Come over there and matinee that bitch up.
Well, with streaming now, it's like networks doesn't matter anymore.
You just have to have a good show.
You just got to have a good show. You got to step into it.
You got to step into it.
And I think that's the thing that why we ran into a lot of trouble, even even selling it initially or even getting it picked up originally, was that I think it was it was too real.
It was a little bit too real. Oh, yeah. Joe, they was asking dumb.
They was I'm not going to say dumb question, because when you're not familiar with a person court culture, they was asking like one of the kids name is Janelle.
And what did they ask you oh they were
like that the name was too ethnic somebody said i was like janelle and brandon ethnic
janelle they couldn't handle janelle but that's executives they always want to fuck with things
if they would only leave shit alone yeah and you know even when we got we we left fox we went from fox to fox uh
studio and then we went to because the deal originally was at fox right and then when i
when i came in because originally it was going to be a a single cam show and then i was like no you
it's got to be a multi-cam you got to put her in front of a live audience because she's going to
come alive and they were like all right cool let's do multi-cam and then once they read the script
they're like oh you got a lot of fucks and motherfuckers and niggas in here we're gonna
we're gonna have to go to fox 21 which was a division like a division a cable division
and then that's when we went out we sold it with tahulu yeah we sold it to hulu all these networks
still have these language restrictions like what the fuck are you doing? It's 2021.
Yeah, we're in a new world
now. Everybody has the internet.
That's nonsense. Hey, I was just
telling y'all out there, what are you hiding from
with the language? My kids,
little kids, elementary, and the time
they learn how to read, one of them Google Elsa
sucking dick. So,
what are you hiding?
I didn't even know Elsa was
sucking dick on the internet. And it's true.
She really is. Elsa from Frozen? Yeah, she
gangbanging. And I was like,
I don't know why. Was she getting
fucked by the snowman? No.
She's getting gangbanged. She's not
gangbanging. Well, it's just dicks all
around her. She's letting it go.
Gangbanged. Yeah, and I was actually
blown away. And I was like, why did you
Google this? Well, they Googled it
at school. It's a second grade. I was like,
what? And I said, you will never get a
phone until you have a job to pay for a phone.
I mean, when I was in
third grade, everybody was talking about
two girls in one cup. That's right.
What is that? Oh, that's the one
where they...
Do you want to see it? No, you don't want to see it.
Show it to me.
No, you don't want to see it.
No, I had a baby, Earl.
I don't know what two girls in a cup is.
I just had sex.
Two Girls, One Cup is like one of the first videos where people would do reactions.
They would film reactions to it because it's so disgusting.
Oh.
It's these two girls.
They start making out.
Then one of them shits in a cup and they start eating it.
Oh, no.
They're throwing up in each
other's mouths right it's you want to see no i do not want to see that what happens to just
normal sex where you hunch each other and go to sleep well this is a long time ago yeah this was
like 2004 but i started in 1985 why did we change from the sex from 1985 i don't know this is not
really a sex thing this is like an internet thing.
It's like, I don't even think it's real shit.
It's not, right?
It wasn't? Really?
I think it's like chocolate sauce or something.
I saw one talk to two kids
in one sandbox,
and it was all shit.
So these girls are
licking it.
So it wasn't real?
It's fucking nasty.
What's that supposed to be?
Shit.
Yeah, you want to see the video?
No, I don't.
Now that you know that it's only ice cream.
I've never heard of this.
I can't believe you never heard of this.
There were so many videos.
I had the first baby in seventh grade.
I was a mom.
I had shit to do like breastfeed.
I understand.
But there was quite a few videos of people doing reactions. Me and Red Band
did one. Really?
I'm laughing so hard I can barely
breathe. Two girls in a cup.
It's a disgusting video.
But there was a whole bunch of those. Is that
porn? Yeah. It was on
Pornhub. That's how we found it.
What was you doing on Pornhub?
Everybody was on Pornhub.
Did I ever tell you when I got sent to alternative school for selling porn?
What?
I got sent to alternative school for selling porn in fifth grade.
For selling?
Yeah, what happened was there was a play in town that I wanted to go see,
and my parents wouldn't give me money to go see it,
so I said I was going to make it myself.
And I was snooping through my brother's bedroom one day,
and I found, like, big booty car wash under his bed
and big titty palooza and all this stuff.
And that's what we was talking about at school was porn.
So I took his DVDs, and I was selling them at the bathroom for $5 a pop.
For real.
And then somebody snitched.
I got about $20 in, and somebody snitched.
They went to the counselor, and she came.
I remember I was sitting in class, and she came, and she knocked on the door,
and she said, Can I see Mr. Cooper please?
And I didn't go back for the whole year.
I was in alternative school for about two months.
What is alternative school?
It was like, they called it crossroads,
which was like, you had to like,
it was like you had to go across town
and you had to like wear a button up shirt
and like tuck in your pants.
They tried to make them transform.
Peanut butter sandwiches for lunch.
They changed it. Yeah. I sent my son there for talking a lot. like tucking your pants. They try to make them transform. Peanut butter sandwiches for lunch.
They change you.
Yeah.
I sent my son there for talking a lot.
You sent him there?
I sent.
For talking a lot?
Because he was silly as fuck. I wonder where he got that.
Good question.
But he already wasn't making good grades.
He just giggling and laughing.
I said, okay, so I'm going to send you down here with the kids who don't rob the grocery store and, you know, the gas station and shit.
And so his first day there, the man said, what you do?
He said, I was laughing in class.
He knew he didn't fit, but I made him do 30 days.
Wow.
30 days.
Mm-hmm.
Did it help?
Yeah, but he was never no A student anyway.
But he stopped laughing in class. He didn't want to go back to alternative school.
He didn't like because they made him exercise and run.
And it was kind of like a military style when I was in Atlanta.
How long was this process between the time that you had your first deal and you actually filmed the pilot that I saw?
had your first deal and you actually filmed the pilot that I saw?
Four years.
Four years. It was four years, three writers.
And it was hard because, you know, you would think, you know, I just got to Hollywood and
I'm thinking, oh, I'm going to be on Fox.
And then you start watching other people, other comics who get, you know, you know your
show was there and then that show get bumped.
And you're like, what the hell is going on?
And then, you know, when it get to the point where they don't like it, they throw it away.
They say, oh, well, we don't want it.
But thank God for Lee Daniel.
Every time they had to switch or didn't want it or the country, he made them resign.
I don't know what kind of magic he had.
Well, baby, he kept saving me.
I swear, nobody get three and four chances at the same project.
You know that shit.
And I just kept getting chances.
And when he looked at me, he told me before I met this kid, he said,
I promise you, I'm going to get this show picked up.
Nobody gets three or four chances, especially today,
when they don't do very many sitcoms.
No.
When I was on the news radio show in
the 90s there was only sitcoms it was there was no reality shows back then so sitcoms were on
every night monday tuesday wednesday and it was like all like from 8 p.m on it was sitcoms there
was a lot of sitcoms a lot of opportunity to get shows and you know and when you didn't have like
with me i wasn't really familiar
with Hollywood,
but I did meet a friend
who's the guy
who actually found me
who listened to Marin
and heard about my book
coming out at the time.
And then he listened
to my episode,
Chew Dropped,
and they called me in
to Imagine,
which is Ron Howard.
Yeah.
And John Rattler.
And then I just connected
with him.
We like family now. I go over his house and I sleep and I shit in his bathroom and then I just connected with him. We like family now.
I go over to his house and I sleep
and I shit in his bathroom,
wrap my head on the wall.
But we like family now.
You know, he's the only executive producer
that's still on the project
when it started, him and Lee Daniel.
But with those two,
they really held me together.
Even when we shot the pilot, when Hulu picked it up and everybody was ecstatic and happy. And I tell you, I
pick up on spirits the weirdest shit. And you've got all of these executives. Let me
just go back a little bit. So we go and it's time. They put me in acting classes because
once we sell the show, I said, Lee.
You had to go into acting class?
Yeah.
They gave her a show not knowing she could act. I said, we sell it in the room. So I said, hey, Lee. He said, what? I said, Lee. You had to go into acting class? Yeah. They gave her a show not knowing she could act.
I said,
we sell it in the room,
so I said,
hey,
Lee.
He said,
what?
I said,
y'all going to ask me,
can I act?
He said,
bitch,
you can't act.
I said,
no,
I can't act,
motherfucker.
I'm a comedian.
Because you know,
most comedians,
I can act.
I wanted to be good.
I didn't want to be,
just take your money
and put out a shitty project.
And I was like, no, he was like, the bitch can't act. Get her some acting classes. That's what we tell the people at Fox. I wanted to be good. Yeah. I didn't want to be just take your money and put out a shitty project. Right.
And I was like, no.
He was like, the bitch can't act.
Get us some acting classes.
That's what we tell the people at Fox.
So they immediately put me in acting classes.
So when we started, when me and him get together and we get to the process of getting ready to get it picked up, Joe, I didn't know what the fuck a table read was.
I'm like, what the fuck is a table read?
And he was like, I got to read out loud?
I ain't did this shit in a long goddamn time.
So I go on the internet and I Google table read.
And I said, we got to come up.
I said, we got to back.
Don't eat motherfuckers.
He's like, what are you talking about?
I said, we got to get somebody.
And I got to practice reading out loud.
Because if they hear me read out loud today,
they're going to shut this motherfucker down.
I can picture you I can picture you doing this
Oh my god
I said they gonna shut this motherfucker down
So me and him
I'm not lying me and him flew to LA
We got our friends and shit
We sat around the table
I was so fucking horrible
My friend Vincent
Vincent Bronte said,
they might take the show from you.
I said, fuck you, motherfucker.
She wasn't that bad.
She wasn't that bad.
She was actually surprising.
Thank God it was her.
She was playing herself, praise the Lord.
But she actually had instinct.
She had instinct.
That was the practice table I'm talking about.
It was just about putting it in the right. But we practiced quite a few times. Me and him flew had, she had instinct. That was the practice tablery I'm talking about. Yeah, it was just about
putting it in the right.
But we practiced
quite a few times.
Me and him flew out
to L.A. together
and we practiced
with friends and stuff.
And when we got
to the tablery,
I fucked them up, Joe.
I fucked them up.
I had that strip boy.
I had them words
flowing out of my mouth
like hot chili,
God damn it.
And they was like, oh my God, she can read and it was like oh my god she can read I'm like you know the story of Charlie Burnett? Mm-mm. Charlie Burnett was a hilarious comedian who used to do street performance.
And Dave Chappelle learned a lot of how to do street performance from him.
Because Dave used to do that, too.
Where Dave would just pull up to a place and say,
Ladies and gentlemen, and start doing a show.
Charlie Burnett, there's videos of him doing it in, I think,
Washington Square Park in New York City.
Charlie got SNL he
didn't know how to read he couldn't read he couldn't read he was illiterate and
so I'm not illiterate so he but I just have to brush up on shit but they gave him Saturday Night Live he was that good and he would have been a giant star how did it go it didn't they fired him cause he couldn't read cause he couldn't read? Because he couldn't read. Yeah.
That was it.
Couldn't nobody tell him his lines in his ear?
Here's Charlie Burnett.
Oh, Lord, he black, too. I thought you were talking about a white man.
I'm telling you, he was so talented and so captivating.
We're in the village.
I love the village.
We got a nice mixed crowd.
I mean, look what we got.
We got white folks.
We got black folks.
We got Puerto Ricans.
Puerto Ricans.
Puerto Ricans.
We got a lot of fucking Puerto Ricans.
But I'm not going to fuck with the Puerto Ricans, man, because you're all born with
knives.
You'll cut me up and I won't even know what you're saying.
Me to me to casino empire.
And when you finish, you go get pasta.
I've never heard of him.
Charlie was brilliant.
I saw him perform live in New York City at Catch Rising Star in like the early 90s.
I've never heard of him.
What happened to him?
He died.
I think he died of COVID.
Something. heard of me what happened he died um i think he died of covet some
i want to say i think it was hiv was that was he died of something we all have something
yeah wow never heard what would have happened if he got snl i think he would have been a giant star
he was brilliant he was, he just captivated.
But also, I think it's about also taking time with people like that.
Because I feel like a lot of times people just get thrown into the machine and nobody's there to actually guide them through the machine.
Thank God we had each other to guide each other.
But I can imagine.
He didn't teach me how to read.
I knew how to read.
See, the thing is, like, it's hard to learn how to be that guy. It's easy to learn how to read. I do how to read. See, the thing is, like, it's hard to learn how to be that guy.
It's easy to learn how to read.
Yeah.
To be a Charlie Burnett is fucking good luck.
How are you going to figure out how to do that?
Right.
But to learn how to read, a lot of people can learn how to read.
Yeah.
But that's what I mean.
Just throw him on the set and tell him his lines.
Like, just actually take the time to be like, here's your line.
This is what you say here.
You know what I mean? The problem is that SNL, like, they learn the time to be like here's your line that's what you say here the problem is that snl like they learned the day of right like there's a lot of like shit
it's only a week process to create these sketches that they do every saturday so if i couldn't read
like that and i was if i feel like i had that kind of talent i've been pressing up on my sheet
early so when they come i'm here somebody should have just hooked them up yeah somebody
should just like got them lessons yeah it's not that hard something so back to when so it's time
to shoot the pilot and i tell you i pick up on spirits and uh so i'm walking around that day and
i said they're not gonna pick it up and everybody's like what are you talking about i said my inner
spirit said they're not gonna pick up this show my spirit i just pick i don't it's an energy that
i feel i can almost tell what people you know I could tell how
you feel about me I could tell when you being fake a piece of shit I just know
when somebody's honest I'm honest I don't know how but if 80% of the time
I'm pretty right I'm lying Jordan so I'm telling all the Zakes they like oh my
god the first show you fucking killed it so I pulled my friend John Rattler to
the side who wanted to say to producers who heard me on the podcast.
I said, they're not going to pick it up.
He's like, why you say that?
I said, nobody's fucking listening to me.
We got Debbie Allen on the floor shooting the pilot,
and I'm trying to tell Jordan because he's my right-hand man.
I said, they're not going to pick it up.
And I said, I'm not going to name any names.
I said, it's the executive who makes the decision.
His energy bounced off mine.
He didn't get me from the day I met him he don't understand this project and so they came back with the languages uh what was
their language it didn't fit their oh it wasn't premium it wasn't premium content for their
material this is what this is what's trippy though this is what's trippy though is that we heard
through the grapevine that originally that executive didn't really like it
and so they were going to test it to
kind of find backup of like
audiences don't really fuck with it. Like they're
not going to like it. Then they tested it. It was
one of the highest tested pilots
ever as far as testing pilots
go for Hulu. I believe that.
And still was like
I really don't get it. I don't get why
she's yelling at her kids. I don't get why she's cursing.
And that's what I tried to tell them, Joe.
I said, that energy that I felt off that certain person that day,
I knew they were not going to pick it up.
And that was the decision maker there.
So I said, and I just told him, I said, and he was like,
we waited six months before they dropped it.
I knew in my heart, I told him almost every day I said they're not gonna pick this shit up it's
what I think what it was was so many Brian Grazer Ron Howard lead there those
so powerful names connected to it what probably took so long and then you know
they probably tested it again and what was so crazy
I is over now I could say say, but my daughter's friend worked at a testing site.
They sent it to Atlanta, and she called my daughter in secret.
She said, I don't supposed to tell you this,
but your mama pilot just tested off the fucking roof,
and they tested in Alpharetta, Georgia.
That's white as white can get in Atlanta.
And I was like, and I called him, and I was like, they tested fucking pilot.
They told us Chicago
but it ended up in Atlanta
and I just kept telling him
I said
I always felt like
it would find a home
I really did
but I knew
Hulu was not gonna pick it up
now I ain't mad
cause Hulu did a wonderful job
in helping us shape
the pilot
and what it is
we got wonderful notes
from them
I mean they
we thought we had some shit. When Hulu
started putting their little, and we came in,
oh, man, they
made their pilot a fucking
home run. They know what they're doing at Hulu.
They got some great shows. Yeah, but
this wasn't premium enough. That's so stupid.
What the fuck does that mean?
It wasn't premium content.
I don't know. They also don't have any original
multicams. They have, like, traditional sitcoms, like old stuff, like My Wife and Kids and I Love Lucy.
But they don't have original sitcoms.
Right.
And I think that there, I think there was also, it was like, because that hadn't happened
before we did that pilot.
Like nobody had like said fucking motherfucker and all this stuff and talked about, literally
our pilot is about a school shooting.
And somehow we made it funny.
Do you think it's the language? Do you think the language was why they said it wasn't premium content uh that's just
such a fucking vague statement yeah it's not premium content because i had to ask myself what
do premium mean is that baloney with or without the garlic it's just a bullshit statement it
doesn't mean anything like what does that mean i don't know i was trying to figure out what did
meanwhile tested high tested high every time even that's what premium means that's what premium
yeah do people enjoy the shit out of it yeah then it's premium that's what i thought and that's what
the reason they say it didn't fit their platform so you guys started on fox fox was the first place
you took it to and then it went to hulu and fox Fox then Fox Studios Fox 21 and then Julio
so
so
Fox
Fox Studio
which is the 21 plus
yep
and then Hulu
and then we
and then
after they dropped it
last year
Valentine's Day
um
I got a call from
them
BET Plus
I didn't even know BET
had a plus
I did
the whole plus thing
is so weird like Disney plus and yeah I
didn't I was like what I said what is BET plus because I don't watch a lot of TV because I'm so
fucking busy I mean I watch the Handmaid's Tale I mean I like shit I like I like shoot them up
shit like that you know that I just watched that shoot them up show no Handmaid's is cutting off
white clicks I can't watch that show oh that show that show's so goddamn good. I watched it one time. Oh, you gotta get past the pilot.
No, no, no.
Oh, that and Queen of the South?
Uh-uh.
Oh, that shit's so fucking good, Joe.
Really?
You never cheered for white women to whoop somebody's ass.
Women, period.
Watch The Handmaid's Tale.
My wife is obsessed with it.
Oh, my God.
I watch The Handmaid's Tale.
I be like, get that motherfucker. I be screaming at my left. That's the only thing I I watch The Handmaid's Tale and I be like, get that motherfucker.
I be screaming at my left.
That's the only thing
I watch is The Handmaid's Tale.
I think it's too possible
that it could happen.
That's what freaks me out.
It's very near future.
Especially when Trump
was in office,
you were like,
oh shit.
Nobody's gonna control my pussy.
Nobody's gonna control.
This is my pussy.
I believe that.
If I wanna put firecrackers
in it and blow it up,
that's my pussy.
This is my 4th of July pussy.
You're not going to tell me what I can and cannot do.
My 4th of July pussy.
Hey, I'm not trying.
And then they want to do everything to shut my vagina down.
Ain't nobody saying nothing about the men who clip their balls and can't have babies.
But what I'm supposed to do if I marry a man who got fucking dry balls?
Are you going to be mad then?
That's a good question.
Yeah.
Nobody talk about the men's tape.
Ain't that what happens to you when you clip your balls?
What you shooting, piss in me?
Just the container that loads of cum in.
The cum ain't no good.
You just cut the heads off the babies.
Yeah, it's like sperm though.
Yeah, it's sperm with no heads. It shoots out whenever you get a sex me. It's just not. Yeah, it's just fake. No sperm in it's just based first. No, hey shoots out whenever you get a second me
It's just not yeah, it's just no sperm in it. Yeah, I understand what it is. Yeah, what does happen?
That's a good question. I don't have a second most firms have let me wiggling
They look like a little head on so when they clip your nuts, do they cut out heads off the sperm? No, it's not like that
They they basically cut the doorway so like there's like there's different parts to sperm, like to jizz.
Here we go.
You will ejaculate semen, seminal fluid, after a vasectomy,
but it will no longer contain sperm, the reproductive cells,
once you have ejaculated about 20 times.
Okay, so you have to bang out 20 lobes because the boys are hanging out there waiting.
A vasectomy blocks the sperm made by the testes from reaching the semen.
Instead, the body absorbs the sperm, which is harmless.
There you go.
So you're pregnant yourself.
There you go.
So when you first get them clipped, you still can make a few babies because you've got a few of them hanging out.
You've got 19 loads left after the first one.
So after you get clipped, you've got 19.
I would look at it under a microscope.
I'd be like, what the fuck is in there?
You know, once you got past 21,
I'd want to put a slide down
and get that in there and see what the fuck it looks like.
Yeah, the head's cut off.
There's no boys in there.
Yeah, no boys or girls.
Yeah, nothing but the boys that swim.
Can you see it under a microscope?
Can you see sperm?
That's a good question.
I never checked, but I want to now now you can see a lot of shit i used to be a medical assistant yeah and i didn't know
what the fuck i was looking at but you would put like stds up under there and you could see that
you can actually see that shit you can see the stds you can see it whatever those little shit
was they say uh no they look like a lot it looks like std's like it's according to which one you get
what's the worst one to get i don't know only had gunner real which one you had how was that
bad is that bad i never had any of them well i feel like flame flamethrowers got your pussy oh
that's what i heard right didn't you say they used to have to come pick you up if somebody
fuck you joey if somebody gave you a std they had to get a bus uh back in the day when you had a std and uh
the day would knock they would knock on your door one person would say oh i got std they said what's
your partner so you start naming your partners so they go pick up the partners and they would give
you a ride to the health department wow you know what that is wild yeah they couldn't come get me
all time i'm like you, you again, motherfucker.
Who reported me?
Hey, Pat. Come on in.
You did get to know their names and shit.
So when does your show start
airing?
August 12th.
Oh, two days.
All ten episodes drop at once.
Isn't that beautiful about today?
So if someone loves your show they can just binge
just binge
and I think they're gonna
be able to binge
I just love
some of the episodes
like we did a
Him, Them, and Their
episodes
gender nonconforming
I had never heard
of that before
you did a gender
nonconforming episode
it is so fucking funny
Joe
we did a
one about
porn
and we did
we did a N word We did N-word.
Yep.
Derogatory words.
Derogatory words.
Yeah, and we used them all.
Wow.
Yes.
That's the beautiful thing about the internet, too, about streaming.
You can do it just like you do your act.
You just say it.
And it's not...
We're just throwing out derogatory words.
We talked about, you know, like how your kids like who was that
Matt Damon just said he used the f-word was that Matt Damon yeah and he said my daughter told me
not to use that is and when I heard Matt Damon said it was like that's what the episode is about
how kids today was like oh mama you can't say that anymore like my daughter is gay right we all know
I told you that a hundred times well I'm 49 years 49 years old. I grew up saying bull diger.
And my daughter was like, you can't call me
a bull diger. I'm like, well, they used to call you.
I've never even heard bull diger.
I've heard bull dyke. It's like a bull dagger.
Like a dagger. It's something
in the south. It's a black thing in the south.
Bull diger. That's what they call lesbians.
Bull diger. That's what I say. What's the correct form?
Dagger. Are you saying dagger?
Bull dagger? I don't know. I'm saying dagger. I thought you were saying
bull dyke. Bull dyke.
Oh. Bull dyke. Have you heard that before,
Jamie? It's a southern thing.
It's a southern thing.
It's a southern thing. But that's what
that episode's literally about. It's like a generation
gap. But my daughter stopped
me and she said, you know, she's like,
Mama, that's like a white person calling you the emperor.
I said, Bull Dyagger is nigga now?
So,
so I stopped saying it.
I literally stopped saying it
and that's what the episode
is about
because a lot of times
young people come to,
older people say,
hey,
you can't say that.
Well,
you know,
you can't say words like that
and that's what the episode,
so when Matt Damon came out
and,
and,
there it is,
bulldiggers.
This is a prison term
for macho lesbians.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a rough one.
Those two girls are bull daggers?
Well, I don't know about those two.
Is that what they're saying?
But down south, when I was little, everybody was a bull dagger if they was gay.
Ah.
The lesbian wasn't the right...
You was gay, you was a bull dagger.
And it's basically like, for being within the community, it's like, oh And it's basically like, it's basically like for like being, being within the community.
It's like, oh, it's funny how like, especially black people in those conversations, it feels
like they separate.
Like if you're gay and you're black, like you can't be both.
Like, it's like, oh, you can't like, I can say bulldog, but you can't say nigga.
But it's like, what if you a nigga and a bulldog?
You know what I mean?
Like, it's like words are just how words hurt, but it hurts because of what we put on to
them.
You know, Tim Dillon.. You know Tim Dillon?
Do you know Tim Dillon?
I don't fucking know Tim Dillon.
Hilarious.
Very funny comedian.
He's gay.
And he got in trouble for saying dyke.
He's like, I can't say it?
And he's like, what the fuck?
He's like, I'm gay.
I can't say that?
Like, people were mad at him for saying that.
And they probably gonna be mad at me for saying this a couple times. But, you know, that whole conversation was my daughter sat me down.
She was like, you can't say
these words.
And I'm like, well, okay.
That's what the episode is about.
So the episodes are all about real life shit.
That happened to me. Even the him, them,
and there, and the
what is it called?
Ginny Nonconformist. My daughter
brings home a friend
in real life. I mean, but he ended up writing it. And she brought one over and Iconforming. My daughter brings home, my daughter, Garyana, brings home a friend in real life.
I mean,
but he ended up writing it
and she brought one over
and I was confused.
Like I said,
she brought one over.
I mean,
she brought,
I don't know.
It's like,
what do we say about this?
Who are you?
What are you?
Well,
it's like,
I mean,
it was a weird conversation,
but with the great writing
of Jordan Cooper
and all of us
putting it together, we was able to, it was a teaching moment.
Because a lot of people don't know.
For everybody.
For everybody, him, them, and there is.
Right.
You know, I've never heard that shit before.
Yeah, the they, them pronouns.
Yes, the pronouns.
It's very hard to put together in sentences correctly.
It took time for me.
I remember when I first, I had never heard of that before I went to New York and I went to the new school in New York.
And I remember first day of orientation.
They were like, all right, what is everybody's pronouns?
I was like, pronouns?
What do you mean?
Why are we?
I was like, I'm Jordan.
I was just confused.
And it took me so long to understand.
Like, oh, okay, you just don't want me to.
I'm going to just call you by your name.
What's your name?
What's your name?
I'm going to just say your name.
That's a good way to handle it.
Because it's like, I don't want to say the wrong thing.
So just tell me your name.
I'm going to say your name.
Yeah.
And that's what that episode is about.
A nigga named Jensen.
That's literally what she says in the show.
She says, what's the line? It's like, one of the kids is like, who is that? that's what that's literally what she says in the show she says
she says
what's the line
it's like
one of the kids
is like
who is that
and she says
oh his name
is just like
Nata Hema
oh her name
Nata Shema
the nigga name
Jesse
alright
which is a very
very good episode
it's one of my favorite
and I remember
when people
would talk about the episode who works at BET oh I. It's one of my favorites. And I remember when people would talk about the episode,
who works at BET, oh, I cannot get that out of my head.
It's so fucking funny.
Well, the beautiful thing about your personality is you can attach it
and you can have so many subjects.
There's so many things that you could talk about on your show
that you have no boundaries.
You're free.
Because the way you are, the way you speak, the way you're loose and fun, you have no boundaries you know you're free because the way you are the way you speak the way you're loose and fun like you have no boundaries like that's for a for a sitcom
writer oh my god like you're a gold mine gold like that's and that's what i pitched it as i said
i want to make pat the black female archie bunker
funnier though Funnier though.
Funnier though.
Funnier.
That's what I want to make
if you haven't seen it.
And that's who she is.
She just said,
and it's all in love.
She's not,
you know what I mean?
It's not,
but she just says
what she wants to say
and we can go from up and down
with topics.
You know what I mean?
And so that's what the show is.
It's really like a,
I like to call sitcoms
a Trojan horse
because you get to talk
about real shit,
but we get to laugh on the way.
What was so crazy, Joe, is like when we went when we finally started writing over the we spent almost two years before we got to this point.
And all of a sudden this kid just wipe out this fucking phone and say, oh, yeah, you said this, this, that.
Everything he ever thought I said funny, this motherfucker had put it in his phone and a lot of it made it in the show.
And I'm like you write
Down what I say he's like that's the funniest shit when you ain't even trying to be
Yeah, that's smart though because you got to capture those things you forget him
Yeah, he just had this whole list what the shit miss Pat say and he put he whipped that shit
I was like you've been recording and keeping note every time and before take out his phone
I will see him
type him but i didn't know he was typing the shit i had said that was so fucking stupid jordan did
you always know you wanted to be a writer absolutely yeah always i started writing plays
when i was like seven i was like do plays yeah in my mom's living room i would always do plays
in the living room i would cut up my mama's weave and make wigs i would play michael jackson cut up
her weave have a little curl coming down. Like, I just always loved.
And, like, sitcoms for me, that's why I kept watching them,
because that was the closest to theater I could get a lot of the times,
because with that live audience, you know what I mean?
So it's like I started, all I would ask for for Christmas was, like, box sets of I Love Lucy
or The Golden Girls or Martin or Good Times.
And, like, I think that's why it made so much sense whenever we wrote the pilot
and they were like how the hell like you didn't go to school for writing tv like what how did you
it was just like i just studied like i just i've just been doing it all my life i watched uh i love
lucy the other day with my 11 year old we sat and watched it with her and i was like i just want to
show you this she's like i go just just watch it please i go we could change the channel after a
while we'll watch whatever you want to watch.
I go, I just want you to see what people were like in the 1950s.
And you could see, like, a few minutes in, her eyes were like, what is this?
I was like, this is how people thought acting was.
Like, it was so, in the episode, Lucy thought that Ricky was trying to kill her.
Oh, yeah.
Did you ever see that episode?
Oh, we saw all of them.
It's so clunky.
It's so odd, like the way they did it,
you know, just the way, you know,
Ricky's talking on the phone and Lucy's behind him like,
ooh, like everything was like big and over the top.
And you could tell she got into it after a while.
She's like, wow, this is so weird.
I go, honey, you got to realize that when this show was being made,
there was only like 30 years of motion pictures.
Yeah.
I mean, they really had just started.
I mean, think about a movie, right, from 1990, right?
That's not that long ago.
There's a lot of movies from the 90s.
You can watch those movies.
People watch them all the time.
That fucking rap portfolio scared the shit out of me.
I'm watching them like,
them fake rap portfolio.
What the hell is that?
The fucking spider movie.
Oh, arachnophobia.
Yeah,
that one now,
that one now.
But I mean,
you know,
like the movie Alien,
the first movie Alien,
that's from 1979,
right?
Mm,
wow.
That's the long fucking time ago,
but it's an amazing movie.
You watch it still to this day.
So I was trying to tell her,
I go,
they had just figured this out.
Yeah.
They hadn't really had,
they had like the Honeymooners
and a couple other sitcoms.
They had just figured out motion pictures. But that's what made it dynamic is because that never had
multi-cam sitcom had never happened before and what happened was is that lucy was pregnant so
basically they had been married for like five years right and then lucy was like oh i'm losing
my husband he uh she went with the bitches i need to do something to get him get him back home and
so she was like oh we could do a show together. Let's do a show together.
And so she went to CBS and she was like, hey, I want to do a show with my husband.
And they were like, are you kidding me?
Like, nobody's going to believe you're married to a Cuban, like a Latino man.
Like, what are you talking?
She was like, what the fuck are you talking about? I am married to a Cuban.
And so they were like.
Are you sure about this?
Yes.
Yes, absolutely.
Wait a minute, they didn't believe?
They did not.
CBS executives did not believe.
So what they did was, she said, I am married to a Cuban.
Like, why?
They were like, we don't trust it.
We don't want to do it.
So they created a vaudeville show that was the first, basically the first season of I Love Lucy.
They toured around the country during this vaudeville show.
And on the final stop, they invited CBS executives.
And the audience loved it.
And they were like, oh, okay, cool.
This is good.
All right, we're going to do it.
But if you do it, we're going to do it in New York and we're going to do it in new york and we're gonna do it live he was desi was like absolutely not desi i mean uh lucy is
pregnant we're not going back and forth like we have to do this in la and they're like we're not
doing a show in la are you crazy and he was like yeah we're gonna do it in la and we're gonna shoot
it on film they were like absolutely not but if you want to do it you could pay for it and he was
like all right bet we'll pay for it and we'll just deliver it to you and so they paid for everything and built desi lou studios and they owned the rights until like 1974
and lucy sold it back to cbs which was not smart but but they owned all of that was theirs all of
that was there so basically desi was the one who created this like three camera audience setup that
was all him and the smart shit about shooting on film is all the Norman Lear shows,
if you watch all those 70 shows,
the quality is not good when you watch it visually
because they shot on videotape.
If you watch I Love Lucy, which was made, what, 25 years earlier,
that shit is so, that looks like HD.
It looks like it was shot last week.
And that's because hed it looks like it was shot like last week and that's because he
shot it on film and so that was the like forethought that that desi arnaz gets no credit
for that because he was a cuban but like he created all of that this is my tv like obviously
that's incredible i did not did not know that i was trying to explain to my daughter that this
was before castro took over cuba i was like, you got to understand what Cuba was like back then.
Because Cuba was like a place where people from the United States would go to gamble.
And it was all run by the mob.
The whole thing.
The corrupt government that was there before Castro overtook it.
And I was explaining this whole thing to her.
It was fascinating to watch this little 11-year- old try to figure out what first of all why
everything's black and white like where's the colors there's no color in this stupid fucking
show you're making me watch right i was i was talking to uh my my little little niece the other
day she was talking about um she would watch some show that was talking about like old days like the
1940s and 50s with segregation and and all. She was like, yeah. And they were talking about the segregation that happened in the 1990s.
What?
I was like, what the fuck?
We ain't that old goddamn.
I saw somebody, I don't know, somebody else, their kid.
Their kid was like, mommy, what year were you born?
They said 1993.
They said, were you a slave?
They do
ask this crazy
shit.
They don't know
what the fuck's
going on.
Imagine being alive
for five years
trying to figure
the world out.
I, you know,
I have custody
of my niece's kids
so they know
I'm gone all the time
and they know
I'm their great aunt
because I think
great aunt.
So I come home
one day, Joe,
and they was like,
we Googled you
and you worked
for a million dollars.
I said,
they telling the
goddamn lie. I ain't got no fucking money and you work for a million dollars. I said, they telling a goddamn lie.
I ain't got no fucking money.
And you crack babies about not be trying to kill me.
They Googled your net worth.
Yeah, they Googled my net.
I told you, that's the ones who Google Elsa sucking dick.
I said, stay the fuck out that goddamn internet.
Wow, same kids.
Yeah, the same kids.
I said, you stay the fuck off that internet because that shit ain't true.
I ain't got no goddamn money
y'all think about killing me
I'll shoot you motherfuckers
first
I mean
I just walk in the house
and the crack rep say
we google you
we know your network
know the fuck you don't
can you imagine
can you imagine like
being in the store
with the kids
and they ask for something
and you say no
we ain't got nobody
and they just google your network
that's a goddamn lie google is a lie they ain't got nobody and they just google your network that's a goddamn lie
google is lying ain't got no goddamn money how much of like your own life are you gonna put
into this show like a lot of it a lot of it went into the pilot we had one episode
uh he really wanted to do and i don't want too much push back on shit but I was like uh it was about being
molested and uh because we go there and if I can make it funny Joe I'll go there but when when we
got the writing it I just felt like it it didn't it wasn't captured good and I it had I think it
was just me I wasn't ready and I remember them saying this will heal so many people I'm like yeah but if I'm still kind of touchy on the subject I need to heal first so yeah therefore I pulled it
and we wrote something we wrote a whole new episode I remember that day on the phone with her
because we had been talking about the episode since we since we pitched the show
and we finally had the script and we were working on it and getting notes back, and she called me.
She was like, Jordan, I can't do this.
We shouldn't do this.
I don't want to do this yet.
And we pulled it, and we rewrote it.
We rewrote a whole new episode.
Do you think that's something you'll revisit,
like maybe as you get more comfortable with the show?
I feel like it's an episode that you've got to really take time.
Yeah.
You know, we did one on my uh my baby daddy right
and that was hard that was really hard it was it's funny as fuck joe but you know where i it's like
i don't know if this is a comedy or a dramedy because it get oh it get real touchy towards
episode 789 and it was it you you get the feelings and you know you It made me feel like I actually won.
I got the revenge I wanted on the dude who worked at Jiffy Lube.
I felt strong from that episode, but it wasn't easy.
I remember riding home that night with tears running down my face and saying,
Wow, nigga, I won.
Riding home the night you filmed it?
After I filmed it, I remember riding home that night feeling filmed it after i filmed it i remember riding home that night
saying feeling like i finally won yeah wow because i was i was crying during that there was a scene
one of the final scenes of that episode and i'm not a cry i'm not i'm not that person i'm not a
crier but i i felt it was like it was like i'm a spirit person too. But she did that scene and she nailed it.
And I just started boo-hoo.
I had to walk off set.
Because it was like I was, it felt like I was being used to help her get her power back.
There was something so beautiful about it.
That was like, damn.
The audience was crying.
Really?
Yes.
The audience was crying.
And I remember walking off and they we
that was the last thing and he would just bust out crying I was like what's
wrong with she's like I just want to thank you so much for being you know let
me tell you a story and I like crying in front of people cuz I'm a hood bitch and
he was boohooing and I turn around everybody crying the audience crying and
I remember getting in my car at night and riding back to my place.
And I was like, I fucking won.
I won.
Out of all this shit, you know, the voices that I still hear in my head from, you know, the way my mama treat me.
I had to doubt myself.
You know, everybody fight against something.
And one of the things that I fight against each and every day is my mama in my ear
constantly telling me
I ain't shit.
Constantly saying,
bitch, you ain't shit.
You're ugly.
All the stuff that she did
that stuck to my bones
that I don't know
how to get them off.
And so,
but that night,
I actually feel like I won.
Wow.
It doesn't have to be funny
all the time. I don't try to be. It doesn't have to be funny all the time.
I don't try to be.
It doesn't have to be.
It just has to be good.
It just has to be good.
And it was.
It was not funny.
We had to fight on that, too, a little bit.
Because I remember the network was like, at one point, they were like, all right, we're
the jokes.
Yeah, but it's like any great sitcom, go back and watch Good Times.
They had episodes like that.
Yeah. And I think we have, too, like that either even the finale is like that the finale i you ain't seen no finale like you seen this one really yeah you ain't seen no finale like you seen this one
and you know and acting was so crazy for me because he would take he took my real life and he
dropped him into my into the daddy's mouth and I was like dude I can't be
talking to this man like that you know this is shit I said to my husband and I started to feel it
and I'm like you gotta I said I'm tired of telling this man I love him because you know when you when
you have when you take something so personal he was taking personal stuff personal conversations
we had. Personal,
just, you know, because I tell him everything.
We were really close. And he was dropping
that shit in his dude
mouth. And it reminded
me of my husband at home.
And I'm like, I said, you're going to have to stop
this shit. She was really scared of vulnerability
on set. And it was a thing
where I really had to push
because she, I think acting at first was like a thing where I really had to push because she
I think acting at first was like
a thing. It was like acting. That's easy as fuck.
I could just get in front of a camera. You know what I mean?
But I think some of the scenes
really pushed her. Like there were times
where she had to stop. You had to stop
and get herself together because
it was asking a lot of her. The storytelling
was asking a lot of her.
I like to do things to keep
them, all the actors, on their feet
because it keeps them
connected to the story.
Even jokes. I'll be watching them
do a scene while we're shooting and I'll
hear a joke in my head or one of the writers
will be like, what about this? And I'll run out and I'll tell
one of the actors and not tell everybody else.
So even in the pilot,
when you watch whenever she comes out and she's like,
did you teach your daddy what a clit is?
You know,
she,
the actors had no idea that was coming and they busted.
They were trying not to laugh and it's all in the show.
They were trying not to laugh,
but it's like things like that,
that just keeps them connected.
And they really grew into a family.
And you should have seen that the way that,
that Pat really just sunk into telling this story.
It was so beautiful to watch.
And they were so great.
You know, like, because, I mean, even though I was a star of the show, I was the weakest fucking link.
I mean, you got Tammy Roman on that show.
You had J. Bernard Calloway, who was a fucking theater actor.
You got Theodore Barnes, who did a couple movies on fucking Netflix.
And then you had Brittany Inger, who just came off another show.
I think the daughter who plays Janelle is the only one who was a first acting job.
She was fucking a bomb.
But they wrapped their arms around me, you know, and they helped me.
In Hollywood, everybody worry about who's first on the call sheet.
And I sat them down.
I said, I don't give a fuck
about no call sheet
all I give a fuck about
is who
my check gonna clear
I don't give a fuck
isn't that weird
that first on the call sheet shit
yeah
first on the call sheet
I said
we're family
I need y'all as much
as y'all need me
I said so
we ain't gonna worry
I said we all stars
I can't do this show
without you
that's why you was
fucking casted
and I just told him
I said drop that call sheet shirt I don't give a fuck about you. That's why you was fucking casted. And I just told him, I said, drop that call sheet shirt.
I don't give a fuck about no call sheet.
When we was in L.A. and the extras had to wait till the stars,
I said, what the fuck y'all sitting there for?
We had to wait.
I said, get the fuck up.
Ain't going to be no food left for you.
You don't get the fuck up.
You don't see them big ass men back there working.
Get the fuck up and eat before they eat.
And it was like, nobody's ever done that.
Oh, that's like, yeah, I remember that.
Like the main cast has to eat first
and then the extras eat.
It's wild.
Well, they set out that hierarchy
to make everybody feel kind of shitty.
But that's the thing that,
it started from the top down,
but that was something that we saw eye to eye on
in the very beginning.
We were like, this ain't gonna be no shitty set.
And so we broke all that shit down
and it just created the atmosphere
that it created on people enjoy people's like i love coming to work at this show even
what was so crazy we did we did a scene with the daddy and was about the n-word right and
the white camera means they was all white camera means and they after they told us they said we
never looked at it like that that scene and i mean you you damn near they was us, they said, we never looked at it like that. That scene, and I mean, damn near, they was tearing up.
They said, we never looked at that word, the way y'all just put it out on this show, like that.
And they was like, so happy to come to work.
And they would get booked for other shows.
I was like, where you been?
I'm so fucking happy to be back here with you, Miss Pat.
They was literally, it was nothing like seeing people happy to be back here with you, Miss Pat. It was nothing like seeing people
happy to be there.
Not just some bullshit. They knew they was gonna
laugh. Do you have an idea
of whether or not you're gonna do another season?
It depends on the audience.
BET said
that they're waiting to see how people respond.
If people are gonna watch it.
They're nervous.
I think we are nervous.
We are.
Because it's just, it's a new kind of show.
It's really a new kind.
It's like an experiment.
It's a big experiment.
And I think that they were saying the first two weeks really matter in streaming
because the first two weeks in streaming,
that's how they know if they decide if they're going to pick something up
because it depends on how many people watch it and the hours that they watch it.
It's not like ratings.
It's like, okay, did you watch multiple episodes?
So it depends on what happens in those first two weeks, really.
That depends.
They follow everything, right?
Did you finish it?
Did you start it and end it in the middle?
They know everything now.
It's interesting.
The difference between what they know with streaming
is so fascinating because they know all the demographics.
It's like they have all the data as opposed to the Nielsen ratings
with nonsense.
Nobody knew what the fuck that was.
The Nielsen shit is like there's a Nielsen family,
and then you had to fill out a book.
Oh, no, that's radio.
The Nielsen was like, I guess it was based on a box that was on your TV, right?
He just told me the other day, back in the day, they didn't even put Nielsen boxes in black households.
Yes, that's why they didn't, in the 50s, they didn't have like black shows back then because they didn't give Nielsen boxes to black people.
So the advertisers didn't care if black people were watching.
Really?
How many Nielsen families are there?
I don't know.
Are there any left?
I don't know.
Are there?
There are?
Yeah, I actually know like a couple of my friends of mine had a Nielsen box a couple months ago.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
I remember Oprah got in trouble when OWN first started and she was like,
please watch Oprah Winfrey Network, especially if you have a Nielsen box.
She got in so much trouble.
What?
Who got a Nielsen box?
It's supposed to be the secret thing that nobody's supposed to know about.
You're not supposed to tell people?
That's hilarious.
The one thing you can't advertise?
Wow. Where the fuck is the box at? Do I supposed to know about. That's supposed to tell people? That's hilarious. The one thing you can't advertise? Wow.
Where the fuck is the box at?
Do I have one?
No.
No, you would know.
No, you would know.
You have to like fill out some paperwork, I think.
And then you get a box that's on your TV.
So whatever you're watching, they know what you watched.
And so then they, I think it's like 100,000 families nationwide.
Yeah, I'm trying to find a number.
I don't see anything.
And then they calculate based on, you know, the actual number of humans there are in this
country and how many people really watch TV
and they get an estimate, a rough
estimate of the amount of people that are watching your show.
But it's very rough, as opposed to streaming.
Streaming, they know exactly
how many people are watching your show.
It's a different animal.
How much is BET Plus?
Is it a monthly thing? $9.99. A month?
Yes. $9.99 a month.
Seven day free trial they have, I believe.
And what other shows they got on there?
They have the First Wife Club.
They're only 18 months old.
So it's a new streaming platform.
So they do have a lot of the black old sitcoms like Martin and Rock and Fresh Prince.
But they have a few, they have quite a few probably 10 originals
along with ours. A lot of people forgot
how fucking good Martin was.
That guy played like 15 different characters in that show.
It was so interesting. It was like
literally a fusion of sketch comedy
and sitcom and that's kind of what I'm trying to
do with Pat. I'm trying to do like a comedy
show meets a sitcom and
kind of melt the two together. Like stand up
meets a sitcom. Yeah, exactly.
And I hate it. comedy show meets a sitcom and kind of melt the two together. Like stand-up meets a sitcom. Yeah, exactly. That's why.
And I hate it.
Everybody get an extra treat when you go to streaming because I'm doing,
they're called monologues, and I fucking hated them, Joe.
But we was watching one yesterday, and it was so fucking funny.
And me and him would literally stay up all night trying to write it to
marriage, the episode.
And I was like, this is so fucking hard.
Yeah.
But this is what he wanted.
I was like, if we get a second season, like when we get a second season, we're not doing them.
I'm not doing this fucking shit.
Yes, we are.
Because it's the perfect, it gives you a chance to see her stand up.
And she's basically giving you a prelude to what, it's kind of like what Shakespeare used to do.
It's like, I'm telling you the story
before you know the story.
But I'm making you laugh while we do it.
The perfect compliment.
Yeah, and then the show just starts around her.
It's very theatrical.
Like in the pilot, how she's doing stand-up,
talking to the studio audience,
and all of a sudden the plane just comes in,
the set moves, and the plane starts.
This kid dreams, Joe,
because let me tell you something.
Some shit he asked for, I was like,
you shouldn't ask these people for all their money like that.
So when the plane idea, he was like, oh, I got this idea.
Because it was my idea to sit on the plane and have that uncomfortable conversation with the white woman.
Well, I used to fly Southwest, right?
So I was A+.
So I would block my seat off going back to Indiana because it was full of white people.
And I wanted to have conversation about real life, race, abortion.
Just start a conversation.
So I would block my seat off, usually for a white man,
because those are the ones that once you got them sitting down
and they can't go nowhere, you can ride their ass like hard dick.
And I wouldn't do anything like racist.
I would just start a casual conversation and let them know,
it's okay, I want to know your opinion on these on race or whatever and they were most time
they were open up and talk to me and when I gave him that idea hey we should
have a conversation about this is what I do every week on fucking Southwest he
wrote it but then he come up he said I think the plane should open up I said
don't ask CP for all day money stop that bullshit he's like no I got this vision
and I'm like this kid is gonna get us kicked out this motherfucking studio and damn but the guy started building it's like we never done anything
like this and then you seen how it ended up which was so fucking beautiful and then the next thing
he asked for was before that he said we standing at lee daniel's oh what do you think about debbie
allen directing nepal i said bitch ain't even famous deb Debbie Allen don't know who the fuck I am you
think she gonna come fucking direct something for all no name ass and he was like Lee asked Debbie
Allen Lisa oh I asked her he sent it to her she said I'm gonna direct this fucking pilot and I was
like keep asking motherfucker it was so dumb because they were like they were we were looking
at lists of directors and there was all these white guys and women.
It was good people, really good people.
But then I remember I was watching a rerun of A Different World, and then Debbie Allen's name came across the screen.
I was like, what about Debbie Allen?
And then I didn't know what to think because the show is R-rated.
It's so nasty.
So I didn't know if Debbie Allen was going to want to do— It's not nasty.
It's not that R-rated.
It's Christian.
I didn't know if Debbie Allen was going to want to do. It's not nasty. It's not that R-rated. It's Christian. I didn't know.
Christian my ass.
I didn't know if Debbie Allen was going to want to be a part of it.
But she read that script and she fell in love with it.
And she just jumped on board and she added so much beauty to it.
I have to tell you.
Did you tell him about when you had dinner with Phylicia Rashad?
We sat down and had dinner with Phylicia Rashad who played Claire Huxtable.
Can you imagine Miss Pat and Claire Huxtable
across the table
what was that
she was
she was like
the wife we see she was like you're so colorful
I said what the fuck is wrong with your sister Debbie
and so you know Debbie is married to
Norm Nixon
he's like
tell about your daughter be eating that pussy i said you want me to tell no
felicia rashad laughed so hard and then she just came alive i was like oh my god she's human she's
beautiful but it was like we was really scared i was really scared to send debbie this because
you know debbie is like you know, the black princess of African-Americans.
We just fucking love her.
She's royalty.
And so we flew to Atlanta.
She was shooting a movie with.
That was another backdoor situation.
Yeah, that was another backdoor.
Because they didn't want Debbie Allen.
I didn't say that.
What?
She was like, we're not saying who, but they were like, you know, she hasn't directed a sitcom in 25 years,
so how could,
it was like,
you don't forget how to direct,
you know what I mean?
It was like a thing where it's like,
you know,
everybody wants the new thing,
everybody wants the new
and the new and the new.
Fucking executive.
But it was just a thing
where it was like,
no,
like,
we promise you,
she can kill it.
And so Pat was like,
you know what we gonna do?
I said,
well,
she said,
we gonna back door
these motherfuckers again
and we gonna fly to Atlanta. We jumped our black ass on a plane. I said, shut the fuck up. They was like, you know what we're going to do? I said, what? She said, we're going to backdoor these motherfuckers again, and we're going to fly to Atlanta.
We jumped our black ass on a plane.
I said, shut the fuck up.
They was like, well, we got a whole list of directors.
I said, well, you go ahead and keep typing.
We flew to Atlanta.
I don't listen, though, but I believe in myself.
I said, keep typing, motherfuckers.
And I said, okay, send a list.
I said, Jordan, get your motherfucking ass and meet me in Atlanta.
We're going to meet Debbie Allen.
We walked up on that set.
We talked to her.
We left. She got Debbie Allen. We walked up on that set. We talked to her. We left.
We're like, oh, she got the job.
Wow.
Because she knew that I wanted to return to that old school vibe.
Everybody does live tracks now.
Everybody has a different way of writing now.
But I wanted to go back to that old school vibe where it was like, you know, you would shoot two shows.
Like for that pilot, we shot two shows.
We had two different audiences.
We had a 4 o'clock show and a seven o'clock
show and we edited it together.
So that way you keep that speed.
So you're not asking the audience to laugh at the same
scene over and over and over again.
It's like you just go straight through and you move
move move move move. And she understood
exactly what I was trying to do. It's like theater.
It's like a repertory theater. And so
like as soon it was like it was like the three
of us were just a trifecta
It was oh my god. She took me in her bag. She took me we went to her house Oh my gosh, you can fucking cook to lamb chop Debbie. I love you
So she took me to her house and what she what she did fuck dance with Michael Jackson
It's showing the moves and shit and she worked with my acting and and it did she would just tell us stories
And she just really fucking helped me out so much.
And that's another reason why I wanted her to direct it.
Because I felt like she knew what it was.
You know, I'm young.
I mean, I'm not young, but I'm a young actor.
And she just wrapped her fucking arms around me.
She said, I'm going to show you exactly what the fuck can do.
And boy, we had a week, two weeks, a week or two weeks rehearsal.
And she rolled my ass because
that was times i would leave that rehearsal and go to her fucking house and rehearse some more
wow and she wasn't even getting paid for that but and that was all because she cared i just have a
hard time believing that someone would push back on her directing it man you'd be surprised i'm not
surprised though just fucking executives it's executives that They're young people who eat fucking Brussels sprouts.
Not the Brussels sprouts.
What's that little shit that look like little hay on your plate?
No, I like quinoa.
What are you talking about?
The little Brussels something.
Bean sprouts?
Bean sprouts.
Them motherfuckers.
Yeah.
People who eat bean sprouts.
They eat bean sprouts with nothing on them.
And they're making the fucking decision.
They're empty- minded motherfuckers.
And you're like, this could make you laugh if I got butt naked.
And I was like, just stupid.
I was like, okay, it's y'all money, whatever you want to do.
The beautiful thing is as the show becomes successful, and I believe it will become successful,
you'll be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do.
I would pray and hope that they would listen a little bit more.
They're going to listen.
You know, believe it, you that they would listen a little bit more. You know,
trust me a little bit.
That's why shows like South Park is the best example. They don't even have to talk to
Comedy Central anymore. They just deliver their
episodes. Wow. Yeah, they're like, shut the fuck
up. Shut the fuck up. Here it is.
Shut up. And when you're a young writer,
that was another glitch we
had, like the writing room. You know,
you mess around and you hire people that don't get your show.
Oh, my God.
And writers are the most sensitive motherfuckers I ever met in my life.
Well, we're comics, right?
Yeah.
So if you don't like something, Joe, you're like, man, Pat, that shit ain't funny.
Right?
We talk shit to each other.
We talk shit to each other.
But I didn't know that you couldn't bring that in the writing room.
So I was like, dude, that shit ain't funny.
Stop laughing at your motherfucking self.
Yes. She would. I was like, this, that shit ain't funny. Stop laughing at your mother. Yes. Yes.
I was like, this shit is horrible.
Who the fuck wrote this?
You think I've been doing this shit 20 years and I got in trouble.
But I'm like, I'm a fucking comic.
When you say in trouble, like what happens?
Somebody.
I had to go out and get some.
I had to get a life coach.
A life coach?
Yeah, they met there.
She helped the shit out of me.
You had to go get a life coach.
Yeah.
They told you to get a life coach?
I had to get a life coach.
Because the way you're communicating with the writers?
Yeah.
That weren't funny?
Yeah.
Because you don't supposed to say.
Why would anybody fuck with your chemistry, like who you are?
I don't know but
but you know what it is it has a lot to do with the fact that you know people see that we've never
done this before and they don't listen you know what i mean it's people who have like been doing
it for 30 40 years so when we come in and we're like no we want to do it like this they're like
that's not how it works it's like that's the point we don't want to do how it works we want to do the
other thing right and i think that for pat it the point. We don't want to do how it works. We want to do the other thing. Right. And I think that for Pat,
it was like,
she just wasn't used to having to like communicate in a way where,
where you didn't piss people off.
Like they're,
they're not used to that.
They're used to people being like,
Oh,
we love this or,
Oh,
you know what I mean?
But probably be like,
that's not funny.
Stop laughing.
Now,
what does a life coach tell you?
Um,
you can't tell people that shit ain't funny but that's the only way you get to the point yeah and then so i started using we're like can we try a little harder
the problem is if someone's writing shit that's not funny and they think it's funny they're
probably not good uh thank you and then so and i was saying that in
the beginning you you suck stop it you know but i don't think they suck i think that people have
been trained to write a certain way in hollywood they write what's palatable they write you know
the thing that gets them the check the thing that they didn't care about anything right i cared about
this i cared about this. I cared about this.
And I was like, if I'm going to go down, I'm going to go down with my fucking mistakes.
Not nothing that I'll let you talk me into doing.
And that was the hard part.
You know, I'm like, this is the Miss Pat show.
This is not your show.
You know, well, you can't say those things.
Well, I'm a comic.
We tell each other all the time, that joke ain't funny.
That shit, get the fuck out of here. You i heard that whack ass shit well not only that comics will thank you
because they know that oh you're right and then they know they have to go either abandon it or
start from scratch yeah i mean i had a joke in my shit a board game boy i'm like nigga please
board game board but yeah that been on every sitcom from the day sitcom were created
i don't know what you're saying me either i think she said like like somebody was like we're playing
board games we're so bored playing poor games like something like that oh yeah like i had never heard
that i'm like and then i was and then you would pick it out and the people would get offended i'm
like you know i'm not trying to throw any writers up but you do you I just know this show was about me and I used
to tell me bitch you can't out funny me I think Jordan is right though that if they're getting
jobs they're writing you know they have like a standard way exactly of doing it and it's probably
getting them gigs and they're used to right so when you challenge that they're like what are you
doing right like have you ever you ever try to watch, what is that show, Big Bang Theory?
You ever try to watch that show?
Shut up, Joe.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Try watching it.
It's like they're writing it for aliens.
But meanwhile, that show made a fucking billion dollars.
Somebody watch it. I don't understand it, but it was very popular.
It's for people who get home from work and they're on pills.
And they're standing there staring at it.
And it tells them when to laugh.
home from work and they're on pills and they're standing there staring at it and it tells them when to laugh but i think that that's why like people like but that's why we wanted to do a
different kind of sick because it's just it's such a if you watch sitcoms now it's just corny
it's just corny it's a formula and they press a live track and they're like like we were in the
middle of a pandemic but i still wanted to fight for a live studio audience i was like how are we
gonna know the joke is funny if we don't have real people laughing? Just because we think it's funny
doesn't mean it actually lands.
You have to try it out in front of
an audience. We would do shoots.
We would shoot the episode
without an audience. Stop hitting the fucking table.
You don't pick up the mic.
Shoot the episode without an audience and then shoot the episode with the audience.
And we never used the footage
without an audience because the energy was just different.
It's different. It's just a different energy.
So I would say like 95% of what you see
when you watch the show is all live audience.
Especially with you.
Well, I did learn a lot too.
I'm sure.
I learned the things you can't say to writers.
What is that experience like with a life coach?
They sit in a room.
No, they on the phone.
Oh, it's on the phone.
When you want to vent, you call that person and they'll tell you how to go by instead instead of saying you know motherfucker
i knock your goddamn head off so they got it wasn't even in person they wanted you to life
coach over the phone we did it zoom but it helped so fucking much really it really did help me she
shifted she that was a big shift.
It was a big,
it was corporate world.
I wasn't used to corporate.
You and me talking about corporate,
I'm stealing.
But this time,
you know,
I learned a lot.
I really did.
She calmed me the fuck down.
I mean,
she taught me how to breathe
when I was upset.
I mean,
she taught me how to
choose better words
because I'm from the street.
I'm ready to fight,
motherfucker.
Shut the fuck up.
You know, that's how I am.
And it helped a lot.
It really did.
Wow.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
I mean, I was like, bitch, where you been?
I've been needing you.
I wouldn't have all you convicted fellas.
When we met, I told you, I was like, you should probably go to therapy.
You were like, I ain't doing no goddamn therapy.
Comedy, my therapy.
Yeah.
Well, if you keep going, then you'll be able to put together a writing room that compliments your style.
Right.
That's the goal.
That's the goal.
Because I felt like there was a lot of, I felt like a lot of my energy was spent just hovering almost.
Because I wanted to make sure that everything was just right.
And I didn't want her to have to worry about it.
Cause she already got to learn the script.
So I don't want her to have to worry about like,
oh, the joke doesn't work.
Or, oh, this story doesn't make sense.
Or, oh, so it was a lot of like trying to,
it was a lot of rewriting.
Like both of us, she would call me at like five o'clock
in the morning, we would get a script.
She would call me at five o'clock in the morning and cry.
Be like, I don't know what they doing about themselves.
It was just one episode that made me cry.
I said, I don't know what the fuck this writer wrote,
but Joe, I was crying.
I said, get the fuck up right now.
This shit done dried my puss out.
We about to die.
I was hot.
Joe, the joke.
I thought I was going to die.
It was hot, flashy, everything.
I just couldn't do it.
But it's like that's the best thing.
They worked hard.
They worked hard.
They worked hard.
But it just didn't mesh.
The way we tell stories and the way that they tell stories just didn't.
Some of them.
But we had some really great writers.
I'm going to be honest with you.
We rewrote the whole fucking season.
Literally, there was not a strip that we did not
touch. And we learned a lot about that.
I mean, from credits to everything
else. We touched.
We, you know, we, that was not a night
that when they turned in a strip, we didn't have to
go back and fix. Twelve episodes.
A lot of writing. But it makes sense with
a new show, too, because it's like, you know,
it's a new machine. So it's like
we have to, like, they did great.
Like, they're good. I don't want them to watch this
and be like, oh, they did great.
But it was just a thing where we...
Some of the voices wasn't ringing all
the way through, because my daughter wrote on the show.
Oh, really? Yeah, my youngest daughter
wrote on the show. Oh, wow. That was her
that...
What's the name of the episode? Oh, really? Yeah. My youngest daughter wrote on the show. Oh, wow. That was her.
What's the name of the episode?
Them, Their, They?
That's my daughter's episode.
She wrote that.
Even her episode, we had to go back and touch.
So it wasn't about if they wasn't good enough.
It was more about some of it I had to put more of my voice in it. It wasn't ringing home true to who I was in some of the episodes.
And we kind of got an understanding with the writing room.
Hey, yeah, we're going to have to touch every strip.
Because this is our project, and nobody cares about it like we did.
Well, no one's going to understand what you're trying to accomplish other than you.
Especially if you get some person 32 years old who has been writing sitcoms for the last two years,
and they think they know what they're doing, and they sit down with you. And with you and then like who is this fucking tornado of a woman like this is ridiculous like
try finance like try preparing for someone like you without ever meeting someone like you you
know so you got to look at it from their perspective too right it's a it's a shock yeah
they can't pretend someone like you exists and write it you know they have to kind of meet you
and then they meet you like what the fuck like, they have to kind of meet you, and then they meet you, and what the fuck?
Like, they would have to, like, listen to you on every podcast, watch your stand-up,
and get a sense of who you are.
And even then, they'd probably be too timid to write the way you speak.
Well, I'm really a nice person, John.
You're a very nice person.
I love everybody.
You really do.
But I'm going to say that shit ain't funny.
Yeah.
And I think I should have that right to say that shit ain't funny. Yeah. And I think I should have that right to say that shit ain't funny.
It's important because if you don't say it, then they just do it the way they wrote it and then it sucks.
And then it's you.
I had a podcast with the guy from, what's the comedian named?
The redneck dude.
Want to be a redneck?
I cannot think of his name. Oh, Jeff oh jeff fox yeah so i did his podcast
and he said he has a podcast yeah he has a podcast and um i was doing a podcast with him one day and
he was saying um that was some of the problem that he had he was like i wouldn't say this shit
right and he said he said sometimes to the point where they didn't even want him in the writer's
room that's hilarious they did that with roseanne too they even want him in the writer's room. That's hilarious. They did that with Roseanne, too.
They kicked her out of the writer's room?
Yeah, the new series for the second season,
they kicked her out of the writer's room.
Executives have these ideas, and writers have these ideas,
like we know what we're doing.
And when you have a strong voice like yours,
especially yours because it's so unusual, like try fun.
Like Miss Pat is like you don't have another example.
There's no other one like you like try to find another Miss Pat.
So for them to try to like put it together, you've got a regular person like, oh, he's like Tim Allen or oh, he's like this person.
Like you can do that with a lot of sitcoms.
But with you, they're fucked.
Like they would literally have to try to think like you.
And that's hard.
It's hard to do.
But this kid got it.
Yeah, Jordan got it.
But that's the thing is that this kid, right?
He's not corrupted by the system yet.
And for you to get out of the gate with a show like this, I mean, this is amazing.
It's an amazing opportunity for you.
But it's also perfect for you
because he's fresh
and he's not fucked up by this
goofy machine that makes
terrible TV shows.
Because there is a machine, and they make a lot of
money off those terrible shows.
They want to keep making those stupid fucking shows.
Yeah, and that's what I was happy to.
I was like, oh my God, I'm so happy
because he's got so many other projects now on the book.
Oh, do you?
Yeah.
I said, he's writing a movie now.
26?
Yeah, for Netflix.
Out the door.
Yeah.
Guns blazing.
I mean, when I first met him, he didn't have no food.
He got on Prada Books today, Joe.
Wow.
She's not lying, though.
She's not lying.
Yeah, I mean, to see see I was like Oh I remember
When I was loaning you
My card
He get credit
Better than mine
But he believed in it
And I mean
That's what
That's what
That's what I loved the most
And I just wanted to see
I just wanted to see
I didn't want her to
Cause I could only imagine
What the show
Would have been
And I just didn't want her
To get put on TV
In front of a screen And not be herself Right It just would have been painful I don just didn't want her to get put on TV in front of a screen and
not be herself. It just would have been painful.
I don't know if you,
I don't know if you ain't got a black mama,
but my mom is like,
she's like Pat.
She talks like Pat.
But then it's like, when you
get on the phone with executives
or white people or rich people,
it's like, if you don't sit your ass down i'm gonna hello hi hi and i just didn't want it to be that i didn't
want i wanted her to be her right and i feel like that's why i kept bringing up like richard pryor
and red fox and and flip wilson and all these comedians who lawanda page who couldn't be
themselves on these shows and it's like her crown was bought and paid for,
and now she just has to put it on.
Like they did all that so she could do the Miss Pat show on BET+.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
No, that was my fear watching it, that they weren't going to get you.
And that they're going to put you in some sitcom.
But then when I watched it, I'm like, this is you.
It's actually you.
And for people that don't understand how hard that is to do,
it's one thing for a person to be themselves.
It's another thing for someone to write out that person
and write that person interacting with a fake husband and fake children
and a fake kitchen and try to put it together
and make it seem like it's really you
really having fun with your family.
And you nailed it. You did it.
One of the hardest things in all of the sitcom world
is taking a comedian and recreating their voice for a show.
It's very hard, and very few shows have ever done it right.
Yeah, that's what I hear all the time.
It's really true. I mean, if you go back and think about all the different
shows where a comedian starred in that show and played some goofy caricature of
themselves that's what most of them are most of the they very rarely nail the
essence but your show is you it really is you so you should be proud of that
thank you thank you I don't i can't imagine
it's not going to be huge i really can't i think it's going to be huge i really do it's fucking
good well thank you joe y'all heard your role the same way you buy them muscle balls
all that all that soy milk. All the good shit he tell you.
Soy milk?
How do you drink soy milk?
How dare you?
I don't know what people do for health and shit.
I mean, I drink cow milk.
This is like vitamin.
I do too.
I drink cow milk.
I don't fucking like soy milk.
I stopped drinking it.
Now I only use it if I'm cooking.
Because now I just feel weird.
I feel like I'm sucking on somebody's titty when I'm drinking it.
It's nasty.
A little bit.
Why?
It tastes good with cookies, though.
Because we're the only species that drinks other species' milk.
Yeah, you know what else we do?
We fly planes.
We make movies.
You ain't lying about that.
And we shoot guns.
We do a lot of shit that other species don't do.
And we suck cow titties.
Yeah.
I ain't never sucked no cow titties.
When you drink milk, you do.
I ain't sucking no titties.
You got me fucked up.
You don't have to suck them.
Somebody else did it for you.
Somebody else did it and I paid for it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So you don't...
Well, like when I make
a macaroni and cheese
or you're baking a cake
or something.
Oh, then you'll accept it.
Yeah.
Then I get to suck the cow titty.
You ain't sucking no cow titty.
What are you talking about?
I feel like I'm sucking cow titty.
Something is mentally wrong with you.
I guess so.
I guess so.
But you just... I'd rather say almond titties
Because almonds don't have titties
Almonds are ridiculous
No almonds don't have titties
So when you drink almond milk it's good
This is not milk you shouldn't call it milk
Why not it's milk
But I have to fool myself because it's white and it's creamy
Don't ruin my face
It's just fucked up almond water.
Yeah.
What that got to do with milk?
What does that have to do with milk?
It's white and creamy.
I mean, I guess.
It ain't a gallon of it,
but it's white and creamy.
Apparently not if you get a vasectomy.
Yeah.
That's less creamy. Well, your man ain't got no vasectomy.
I don't understand.
I think he anti-titties.
Well, I think it's just...
I don't mind titties.
There's a lot of people that have that thought about milk,
that we are the only species that drinks the milk of other animals.
The vegan people say the same thing.
Don't eat the...
Women running around here with blood on they self and KFC.
I'm like, bitch, I don't care what you do.
Don't you bring your ass down to Chick-fil-A with this bullshit.
Don't you come down to Chick-fil-A.
People do that to protest.
They put blood on their self.
Yeah, somebody was standing in KFC with fucking blood.
You're killing the chickens, and I'm going to fuck you up if you fuck up my number one.
See, they don't know because that ain't real chicken.
What are you?
Ain't nobody getting killed. KFC's not
real chicken. Don't say that shit. This is Joe Rogan Park.
Can you get sued?
It's good. I heard it wasn't real.
What? I heard that a lot of
fast food chicken is not
chicken.
Listen, if you buy Kentucky Fried Chicken
and it has a bone in it, they're not putting bones
in fake chickens. But what about the shots?
Don't they put the shots in the shit?
It's literally cheaper.
They put the shots in everything.
You've been here.
No, no, no.
You got the COVID shot.
What the fuck you worry about it for?
Those shots are expensive.
What they've done is they've selective breeding and they've created these animals that grow faster and they have larger breasts.
They create it.
That's the problem.
What do you mean by create it?
I'm trying to explain to you.
Every time you nut, you create something. No, no, no. That's the problem. What do you mean by create it? I'm trying to explain to you. Every time you nut, you create something.
No, no, no.
It's selective breeding.
It's the same reason why we have poodles and we also have German shepherds.
It's selective breeding.
So they take big chickens to fuck other big chickens.
They turn chickens into this new thing that they can't.
If you buy like a chicken from 50, 60 years ago, it took a long time for those chickens to get large.
Now chickens grow large way quicker.
They're way bigger than they used to be before.
And everybody thinks they're pumping chickens with steroids.
They're not.
They're not.
It's selective breeding.
They do use antibiotics with cows.
The reason why they use antibiotics with cows, though, is because they're feeding them things
that the cows are not supposed to eat, and they develop all these infections.
Because cows are not supposed to be eating corn.
When you buy a steak and it's all that marbling,
what that is is a sick animal.
Oh, man.
And if you give those, that's why it has so much fat in it.
If you give those animals antibiotics,
you can keep them from getting ill,
and they can get them to slaughter.
But even like animals, like even if you buy cows,
steroids are expensive.
They're not going to fill them up with steroids.
It's selective breeding for the most part.
So do you buy your meat from the street?
Excuse me?
Do you buy your meat from the grocery store?
I hunt.
I know.
I still hunt.
Most of the meat that I eat,
I like to get it myself.
Really?
Sometimes I'll be tapping on,
God damn it,
Joe,
you been fucking up my diet.
Do you, I've always been so curious.
I would like to do that, but I feel like I would have pity on that.
I couldn't watch me shoot them.
There's definitely a sense of loss.
There's definitely a feeling of loss.
Do you have a moment of silence?
Yeah.
What do you kill it?
Elk, mostly.
Because if I shoot one elk, I could eat it for a year.
I go elk hunting every September. What does elk i can eat it for a year like i go out every
september delicious it's amazing is it is it is it grainy like deer well it's like deer but more
delicious and it's darker it's like a dark red and it's it's fantastic so you don't buy meat at
the grocery store i do i still buy meat at the grocery store but for the most part i like to
get my meat from hunting that's so cool do you kill pigs too i'll
kill the shit out of oh shit yeah oh yeah especially wild ones because there's so many
that's the only one do you eat them too yeah do you shoot chickens no no i've never killed a
chicken except my mama did i almost killed a chicken that tried to bite my daughter
chickens are ruthless little fucks.
I don't know if you know this, but chickens are like little dinosaurs.
I used to have chickens, but they got all killed by coyotes when I lived in L.A.
But if you put a baby mouse in a room with chickens, they will swarm on it faster than a cat.
Why?
They are ferocious.
They're ferocious.
Wow.
They are sucherocious. They're ferocious. Wow. They are such little monsters.
Like if they find a mouse, they attack that fucking mouse.
A rat?
A rat will not survive five seconds in a chicken coop.
Chicken eat rats?
Oh my God.
They don't just eat them.
They run after them and fucking attack them.
What?
Savagely.
They tear mice apart.
They were fighting over it.
I put a mouse in the chicken coop.
It's a long story, but here's the story.
We put a glass fence on my house, and hawks would be flying into this fence and knocking themselves out.
It was kind of fucked up.
We KO'd like three or four hawks.
It was not good.
So we're trying to figure out what to do with this one hawk.
It was wounded, but it was still alive, and we had to bring it to this wildlife rescue center.
So over the weekend the
center was closed we had to wait till monday and the chick the hawk got fucked up on friday
so we went to the store and you buy these things called pinkies what pinkies are little baby
mice that they feed to like reptiles people own snakes and shit like that so my daughters
rehabilitated this hawk and fed it these little pinkies, and it ate a few of them, but it had one left.
And they were like, we want to keep that one and raise it.
You just fed the other ones to this fucking hawk.
Now you want to raise it?
And I'm like, first of all, it's a mouse.
You're not going to have a pet mouse.
And second of all, this little baby needs milk to survive.
It's not weaned yet.
They literally sell them to be fed almost
immediately to reptiles and lizards so we eventually just get over this and i tell them
i'm gonna go feed it to the chickens so i go out into the chicken coop i open the door of the
chicken coop i put this thing down and they knew exactly what it was they just wow they've
Swarmed on it one chicken got it and the rest of the chickens chased this chicken around
They were trying to pull it out of her face. It was wild the most ferocious shit. I've ever seen in my life
I've never heard there
there's a fun video of a chicken and a mouse and a cat and the cat is trying to play with this mouse and the
cat is trying to play with this mouse, and the cat is creeping up on this mouse,
and the chicken's like,
bitch, give me that!
And runs over and steals it from the cat.
Wow.
And the chicken just starts fucking it up.
And they don't play with their food either.
They kill it.
This is why I don't mess with birds.
Watch this.
Look at this cat.
See this cat?
So the cat's got the mouse,
and it's like, look at this mouse.
I can't believe I got him.
And cats, you know, they're playing on their instincts.
And so this cat is, like, fucking around with this mouse but not killing it,
just swatting at it.
And the chicken recognizes that this cat is pussyfooting around.
Look at that chicken.
Look at this chicken.
Oh!
No, he did not.
Yes, he did.
You son of a bitch. Yeah, look at that. He's like, give me that shit. Oh! Look at him. No, he did not. Yes, he did. You son of a bitch.
Yeah, look at that.
He's like, give me that shit.
Look at him tearing it apart.
Not Ben.
She's just slaughtering it.
I'm turning vegan.
Oh, my God.
See, this is why I don't fuck with birds.
And that cat just stepped back like, okay, you got it.
I've never seen.
I didn't know.
Wow.
Chickens are ruthless.
This chicken attacked my daughter when she was like three and was pecking at her feet.
And my wife was like, she didn't know that the chicken didn't know.
I go, no, she knew.
She was trying to eat her.
They try to eat each other.
They're pecking each other.
That's why they call it pecking order.
Like chickens will murder each other.
So you went out there and slapped the shit out of the chicken.
I grabbed that little motherfucker.
And I was like, you have seconds left to live.
Seconds.
Did you eat him after you killed him?
No, I didn't kill it.
I didn't kill it.
But my wife was like, just give it a chance.
She never fucked with my daughter again.
She never fucked with anybody again.
You jacked the chicken up, Joe?
I grabbed it by its neck.
I grabbed it by its neck.
And they were trying to talk me into not killing it right there and then.
I was like, I will fucking kill you.
And the chicken was like, okay.
I put it down, and that was the end of that.
Never did it again.
It's almost like it knew.
One time, I had just remodeled my house.
I lived in Riverdale, Georgia.
And I don't know how these rats got in my house, big-ass rats.
And they had chewed through the capnins, and I had just had some brand-new capnins put in. And my husband go down and start to fix my daughter's big ass rats. And they had chewed through the capnets that I had just had some brand new capnets put in.
And my husband go downstairs to fix my daughter
Barda, Joe, and my
daughter Garyana probably was three months old
and he cut on the light and two
big ass rats in the kitchen.
He came back upstairs, he said,
motherfucking rats trying to get my baby.
And he go back downstairs and it was a
can of tuna because we had been shopping.
And he got up on the island and this motherfucker
threw this can of tuna
and hit this cat on the head.
I mean, he hit this rat on the head.
The rat stood up and said, and just fell
back when the other rat said, these niggas killing
niggas.
That motherfucking rat
squared back through that hole.
He killed him with a can of tuna.
He stood up like he was praying and just fell back. fucking rat square back through that hole he killed him with a can of tuna oh my god he stood
up like he was praying joe and just fell and i said no don't hit him no more don't hit him
my husband don't give a fuck one time a squirrel got in the house and i was so scared my daughter
was i had a c-6 with my son so it was just me and one other kid had to stay home and help me
all day we we in the room, scared of them motherfuckers.
My husband come on front.
I said, it's a fucking squirrel down stairs.
It's a squirrel down stairs.
And we ain't been able to eat all day because we scared of the squirrel.
My husband went in that living room, moved that stuff, slapped the shit out that squirrel,
and opened the back door and kicked that motherfucker so hard, it went, it just, it caught on to the tree.
I said, yeah.
inches it caught on to the tree you going to jail for animal abuse he had just bought a truck once I come out all these cats just laying on top of the truck he whooped him cats ass do you help me
he's a he don't abuse animal okay don't be calling Peter on a nigga he just don't want you in his
house or sitting on his new truck. I understand.
I went to the airport once and I left my
car there for a week. We went to Italy
and we came back home and cats at the airport,
they live there. There's a bunch of cats living
at LAX. They had shit all
over my car. I mean, all over
it. It was all over the ceiling
of the moonroof
was covered with shit and piss.
They had decided that my truck
was a litter box.
It was disgusting. And they stink.
I think it's still on Instagram somewhere.
Do you have cats?
Not anymore, no.
What, you got dogs?
Your dog got more followers than I do. He's so cute.
What kind of dog do you have?
He's a golden retriever.
I had a German shepherd pup pup
Oh those are great
They're smart dogs though
Yeah he killed himself though
Oh no
What happened?
Ronald Reagan got reelected
He jumped off the back porch
That was the cover of my sunroof
Wow
By the way
That's just a little bit of it
When I drove
It was making all this noise
I was like
What the fuck is on the roof
And we stopped
And my daughter started laughing
They said
There's shit on your roof
I'm like
No
Joe that don't look like cat turds
That look like grown up
No that was cats
I saw the cats
Oh
Yeah
They had them dried out
And everything
You was gone for a while
We were gone for like
It says
I was parked there for 11 days
when we were in Italy.
They had shit and pissed
all over the sunroof.
It was crazy.
They like your car.
You drove for 35 miles.
That's all that was left.
Yeah.
Well, that was after I drove, right?
That was at the gas station.
So I drove 35 miles home.
So you didn't get
bottled water
and poured on top of it?
No, I got it washed.
Took it somewhere.
Did it leak in your car?
No, no, no, no.
It was just a glass sunroof.
But why they decided to shit there?
Like, they literally shit only on the glass.
They knew that was your car.
Maybe.
They knew.
It was fans.
They thought this was going to be funny.
They're like, he's going to laugh at this.
But I guess they keep cats at LAX to keep the rat population down.
Really?
They need to take them to New York?
That's what? Also, they
do that on purpose. They do it at Disneyland too, you know.
At Disneyland, they have wild
cats running around. You'll see them at Disneyland.
I fucking love, I just love Disney.
You know, I am a Disney freak.
I fucking love Disney.
Universe Studio, I make them go every
year. I went to, let me tell you,
so I was doing a radio interview and
somebody, the guy was like, oh Miss Pat Pat, you got to do the VIP pass.
I'm quite sure you know the VIP pass.
I don't know.
I'm black.
I just got a few dollars.
So I was like, so I called my traveler.
I said, what's the fuck is the VIP pass?
She said, I didn't think you wanted to pay that much.
It's 18 of us.
I said, well, shit, you only live once.
Why not?
So she called me.
She said, $12,000.
I was like
these ain't got that kind of money so i paid for everybody oh joe it was so good oh
well that i only wrote three rides but when i tell you uh i felt i kind of felt embarrassed a little
bit because they take you through that side door and you pop out and everybody's like is that's
an athlete is that that some movie stuff?
Who the fuck is him?
And it was 18 of us
and I could just hear the chatter.
Who the fuck is these people?
And I kind of feel like,
I felt bad a little bit
and then my friends
who I was with,
they would get out the ride
and they want to get back on
and I was like,
you some greedy motherfuckers.
These people are waiting.
And so they was like,
would you like to ride again?
He was like, yeah.
And they just kept jumping
on the fucking rides
and other people had to wait. Have ever been to disney world in florida
uh no that's we went we went to disney world yeah we did yeah um disney world has that avatar ride
did you do that oh yeah oh not me they did it i don't do I don't do it. It's amazing. It's so cool. You're flying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My friends were throwing up.
Flights of something or another.
It's fucking incredible.
It's all virtual reality.
You have headsets on.
It's like you sit on top of this thing.
It looks like a motorcycle or a jet ski.
But they strap you in.
And in the virtual reality, you're flying on one of those dragons.
It's the best ride of all time.
Man, I think they rode it three or four times a day.
That's the ride.
They rode it.
Joe, we was finished with the park by 2 o'clock.
Play the video so people can see what it looks like when you ride it.
I'm telling you, it is 100% the greatest ride I've ever been on by far.
By far.
Like, POV right there.
Boom.
Fights of Passage, POV.
It's fucking incredible.
They loved it.
My family loved it, Joe.
You could feel the breeze and shit.
Like, they have fans blowing on you. And the scents of the flowers and the water.
And you have to, like, sync up to that thing that you fly on.
What is it?
The dragon bird or whatever the fuck it is.
You link to it, and then you fly off
it's wild i mean it is fucking wild and i i love i love uh disney world yeah you stay at a resort
i know i'm quite sure you got a home down there no i don't have a home florida i love the resort
i stayed at the um what did i stay the uh contemporary it was okay but i'm on my way back for
memorial day and it's like 60 of us going you excited yeah i love fucking this you know and i
don't do a lot of rides it's just like just seeing you know because i don't have family real family
you know just the people that i take in and then i'm always you know just to see the people that
i gather and see the smile on their faces.
Yeah.
You know, because I'm 49.
I'm not going to get on that bullshit.
But I just feel like I'm with family.
I'm having fun.
And it makes me happy.
And it's like Disney again.
Disney again, bitch.
It's either the boat or the park.
And you're going to shut the fuck up because I can finally afford to go to Disney.
And I didn't even know Disney exists when I was a little girl.
Okay.
So I'm going to fucking Disney.
And she rode around on a scooter.
Did you get a scooter?
You got a Disney scooter?
So my husband.
How dare you?
How dare you?
Fuck you, Jordan.
You know how to walk?
What the fuck are you doing on one of those scooters?
Let me tell you what happened.
Don't you tell me shit.
No, no.
My husband got me.
Fuck you, Joe.
It's hot out there.
I had a wig on.
He tried to give a bitch a heat stroke.
You got a wig on?
So my husband has a torn ACL, so I rented the scooter for him.
And he was like, I'm not getting on that old people shit.
And I'm like, you don't want to ride the scooter?
I don't pay for it.
He's like, I can fucking walk.
So I said, fuck it. I'm getting on the
fucking scooter.
So here I am, flying
through the park on the fucking scooter.
And we're walking there and fucking walking.
So I had the scooter already rented and
paid for. I showed it and rode that fucking
scooter. So you took a ride to get on the
rides.
Oh my God. My husband's like, you should
really get off that fucking scooter
what would you have done if someone recognized you uh i got recognized like twice
i told my kids don't ask for shit. We just left Disney. That's awesome.
Yeah,
that's my niece.
We had so much fun.
I get into it,
Joe.
We got to have the ears.
You have to have the shirts.
If you don't participate,
I kick you the fuck
out of my group.
You have to stay
where I'm staying.
You got to have the spirit.
Yeah,
you got to.
And if you can't afford it,
we're going to sell
cookies or t-shirts
till we all can afford
this shit.
And some people,
I was like,
look,
motherfucker,
come on on the road with me.
You can work for me a little while.
We're going to do a bake sale.
We're going to go.
We're going to do this shit
the right way.
Because the experience
I had last year,
I'm like,
you're never going to get me
to do park hopping again.
You're never going to get me
at a Motel 6 again.
Bitch,
I had a resort
where they make up your bed
when you blink your eye.
You want to hear something crazy?
So we're walking to the resort. It's 18 bucks.
So I rented a car, and
my kids got on that Mickey bus, right? My whole
family. So we walk in,
we all dressed alike.
Joe, I'm not going to say the day was
racy, but when you see 18 black
folks walking to a place, you know,
you ain't used to seeing white folks
like, what the fuck?
They sort of ask, are y'all a reunion?
I'm like, no, motherfucker, are you a reunion?
Are you a reunion?
We kept getting asked, are you guys a reunion?
What are you celebrating?
We on vacation, white people.
Ain't you on vacation?
And we got asked that shit like a hundred times.
Are you a reunion
What do you guys celebrate
Nothing
What the fuck
Are you and them
Four white babies
Celebrating
We on vacation
White people
We just dressed alike
Can you leave us
The fuck alone
They kept asking us that
Cause every park
I had a t-shirt for
And you have to wear
My fucking t-shirt
And eels
And hats
I go all out
And I do it all myself
in between all of this bullshit I've been doing.
And the whole weekend.
Every park you had a different shirt?
Mm-hmm.
I've already started making shirts.
I've already started making shirts.
With Disney World,
for people who've only been to Disneyland,
Disney World is like 10 times bigger.
Yeah.
10 times bigger.
It's so big.
I went and I could only go.
I was supposed to be there for two days, but it stormed, so my flight got canceled.
So I could only do four parks in one day.
Oh, my feet was hurting.
My feet was hurting going from Epcot to what's the other one?
Animal Kingdom.
And you know what?
Disney is so, there was, okay, I bought all the Disney parts, and then we did the VIP
at the Universal.
But it rained so bad during Fourth of July.
Oh, it rains a lot down in Florida. So it rained so bad during 4th of July. It rains a lot down in Florida.
So it rained so bad that we couldn't
go to Epcot. So the lady who booked the trip
she's like, well, I never heard of Disney
giving you money back or giving you a
refund. I said, let me tell you something. Ms. Troup,
my third grade teacher, said the dumbest question is
the question not asked. I spent like
six grand for all of these tickets
and we didn't use. So she was like,
well, Pat, you can give it a try. I said, shit, I'm going to ask
you anything, Joe. If I'm broken, I need
to borrow something, I'm going to call you. Hey, Joe, I'm hurt.
Loan a bit of some money. So I called
and I said, look, we didn't use the 18
tickets. They said, no problem.
Are you coming back next year? I said,
hell yeah.
Did you do the other Avatar
ride? The one where you get on a boat?
We did all of them.
That one's beautiful.
I stayed behind because I had my grandkids, but I let them do.
We were through with that, Paul.
We had so much fun.
Oh, that's awesome.
And so this time I'm doing VIP for all of Disney and VIP for Universal, too.
Yeah.
It's going to be dope.
Orlando's a wild place in that regard, right?
There's so much shit you can do down there.
There's so much shit. You know down there. There's so much shit.
You know, Disneyland is so big it has its own bass lake.
Really?
Yeah.
Disney will take you on a bass fishing tour.
My youngest loves fishing.
So when my daughter was down there with my wife at another place,
I took my youngest to go bass fishing.
Woke her up at like 5 o'clock in the morning.
Really? Yeah, she loves it. I'm going to see if my husband wants to do that when we up at like five o'clock in the morning really yeah i'm gonna
see if my husband want to do that when we go back yeah it's great i'm telling you it's like an
amazing bass fishing lake like there's bass all over the place in this lake to keep it stocked
can you keep the bass no i don't like that kind of fishing yeah release them yeah i want to catch
something i'm gonna eat yeah i understand normally i do that but my daughter was into it
she just wanted to go yeah well i wonder what the fish be thinking like when you have to throw them
back i'm like i'm are y'all stupid because why do you keep biting if you know that we always tell
you but you always it's never real food but you keep biting it because there's plenty of real food
out there though you're tricking them there's so much real food they put real well there is real
food there's real
fish they eat fish that's the only reason why they stay it's not like they don't survive off of what
they get when you're fishing with them like they survive off of minnows that are swimming around
so they don't so it's like russian roulette you don't know right exactly they don't see that well
their brains are very small that's what i was thinking i was like why did they kick don't you
know it's a trick why do you think they don't get it on the hook no no well it's like it's like it's almost like
it's almost like bad sex it's good but you keep going back well most of the time
no it's a bad analogy this is why it's like if you if you kill if you eat a bass and that bass
is five years old if that bass got caught once in its life
that's a lot
so out of the five years
it got caught once
or maybe twice
but 365 days a year
it's eating something
so all day
oh so
ah
that makes a lot of sense
so all day
every day
it's out there
fucking up other little fish
and that's what bass do
that's why their mouths
are so big
you learn something
yeah I know
did you know that
this boy actually thought
they were just waiting
on you to fish
for them to eat
literally
I didn't think that
you've never been fishing
no I've been fishing
but we always keep them
I never throw them back
I fish for catfish
so we never keep them
oh yeah yeah
so like I've always
I was like when people
when it's a property
that you have to throw them back
why do they keep
biting the damn hook
they don't get caught that much if you if you think about a
lake that's like uh you know a thousand acre lake or however big this lake is how many fish are in
there it's like who the knows hundreds of thousands of fish that's to see i'm not used to
fishing at big places like that he looked po dirt po dirt Texas, okay? This baby just got, Joe's going to have to work for him.
He's going to come visit a few more times.
I love catfish.
I love catfish.
Oh, it's so good, ain't it?
Yeah, it's great.
Have you ever fried the tail?
It tastes like french fries.
No.
If you cut off the tail whenever you're cooking them and you just batter it and then put it
in the pan, it tastes like french fries.
My mom used to fry the head.
The heads.
The cheeks are good.
You can cut the cheeks off.
She used to fry the catfish head
and brim heads brim brim that's a fish yeah brim brim head brim you never had they got enough bones
in the kill you if you want to kill your mate feed him a brim sandwich right yeah there's a lot of
bony ass fish like pike and apparently tarpon tarpon's filled with bones a friend of mine
caught a tarpon what is that one that's supposed to be a... I'm going to fuck up the word because I fuck up
a lot of words. They make your dick hard.
Which one? Fish?
There's a fish?
I wish Chris was in because he knows everything
to make your dick hard.
There's a fish that makes
your dick hard? Aphrodisiac.
What's that shit?
But there's a fish that's an aphrodisiac?
What is it? Salmon?
Salmon?
Get the fuck out of here.
There's no salmon.
Make your dick up.
Like most seafood, salmon enjoys a rich history as a natural aphrodisiac.
But it's only in recent times that we pinpoint this fish as a sexual powerhouse.
That sounds like something was written by a salmon fisherman.
I ain't never had no sex with nobody that ate no salmon.
Have you ever fucked after eating salmon? Have I ever fucked after I had salmon? I'm sure ate no salmon. Have you ever fucked after eating salmon?
Have I ever fucked after I had salmon?
I'm sure I have.
Have you ever had sex after eating salmon?
I'm sure I have.
That's wild.
I don't think it's any different.
I've never, that doesn't make any sense.
I don't, how could it be?
See, what does it say?
Who fuck after they eat?
I'll be up sleepy.
Really?
Who got that kind of energy?
Me.
Fish is loaded with minerals, amino acids, and heart-healthy fats that promote sexual well-being.
Wow.
There you go.
So I guess it's omega-3s.
Shouldn't you let it digest first?
I mean, your food, you just going to go banging on a full stomach, Joe?
You're trying to throw up on a bitch.
No, I'm not going to throw up.
I would if you jiggled me.
throw up.
I would if you jiggled me.
That whole meal chicken.
That shit gonna be right back in your face. That should be an episode of your show.
Fucking after food.
You can't do that joke. God damn.
Everybody ain't in your shade. You get on the fat
bitch, she gonna throw all of them on you.
You gonna rock that whole meal
this should be an episode of your show about how to time how you
after the food digest but when i took a nap okay after a food day so you're telling me you can eat
a full meal and go in the bedroom and make love? Oh, hell yeah. That's dangerous.
That's dangerous.
Some of that shit might be still stuck in my esophagus. Really?
Can you do that?
Yeah.
The fuck is wrong with me? I'm out of shape.
When I can eat,
me and my husband,
we both go to sleep.
I think we're going to sleep at the table.
There's nothing wrong with that either.
So is it good to have salmon?
I guess it would burn some calories.
If you're horny.
Yeah, if you're horny.
Who cares?
I need an aphrodisiac.
An aphrodisiac.
Some salmon.
I eat salmon all the time and they never did shit for me.
Yeah, I don't believe in it.
That don't make sense.
I'm at the point now, and I know you probably don't want to hear this shit because you're a man.
I love to hear it.
But I'm hot flashes, and they move.
I'm 49.
They move.
They was in between my titties.
Now they in between.
They in my ass, Joe.
And this is when you hit menopause?
You get these hot flashes?
Well, it ain't stopping.
Well, they coming.
You get the symptoms, and then eventually you dry up.
So it's just like you get like a heat.
It feels like you got a heat.
It's like somebody put a blow dryer
in between your titties
and now it's in my butt.
Yeah.
It's in between my legs now.
They be fucking up
my panty liners.
Jesus.
Jesus.
They say that oysters
are supposed to be
an aphrodisiac, right?
That makes sense
because I think
the way you eat them
is very sexual.
The way people eat oysters.
Right. They're like, yeah, it's very sexual. Yeah way you eat them is very sexual. The way people eat oysters. Right.
They're like, yeah, it's very sexy.
Yeah, you have to get in there.
They look like undeveloped vaginas.
I can't eat them.
A little bit.
But I think they're rich in zinc.
I think that's why.
Zinc is good for hormones.
I know how smart you is.
I need you to get somebody on this podcast to tell me about hot flashing.
How do we as women deal with hot flashes?
That's a good question.
I wonder if there's something that you could use to mitigate it,
whether it's a diet thing or maybe it's a hormonal supplement thing.
I've seen skinny people burning up, Joe.
No, no, that's not what I mean.
I mean diet, like foods, like different foods that you can eat
that can mitigate it.
I don't mean like go on diet.
Oh.
I mean like your diet, like what you eat.
But I think, I bet it's hormones.
I bet like they could give you hormones.
What do they do for hot flashes?
Jamie will find out.
Ice packs.
I bet it's like hormonal replacement.
I bet that's what, estrogen.
Yeah, there is.
Oh, so you could take estrogen and stuff like that maybe.
Yeah, you could take estrogen.
But then we grow neck hair.
No, that's testosterone.
The most effective way to release discomfort of hot flashes is to take estrogen. But then we grow neck hair. No, that's testosterone.
The most effective way to release discomfort of hot flashes is to take estrogen.
But taking this hormone carries risks.
What are the risks?
Let's see what it says here.
The risks are you're going to want all the dick.
What are the risks? It didn't risks there's no okay where are the risks
medications such as antidepressants and anti-seizure drugs which go
no okay no but that's what i'm going through America. If you know some good ways to cool me down, because I'm at the point, I fly with no bra on.
Just because of the hot flashes?
Yeah.
And I know the person sitting next to me, they be like, this bitch ain't got no bra on.
I like those glasses, by the way.
Oh, you do?
They look good on you.
Oh, you don't ever like my glasses.
I like those.
Those fit.
They look good.
I can't see shit, so we can put that on those those fit they look good i can't see shit so we can put that on fucking cross side shit either yeah but um if you figure out a way
please let us know how to cool me down because i bet it's the estrogen i bet that's what it is
i'm quite sure that's what it is yeah what do i buy that oh plant estrogen asian women who consume
soy regularly are less likely to report hot flashes
because soy actually elevates your estrogen.
And other menopausal symptoms than women in other parts of the world.
One reason might be related to the estrogen-like compounds in soy.
However, studies have generally found little or no benefit with plant estrogens.
Hmm.
Interesting.
So a bunch of different foods.
Ginseng.
Vitamin E.
Nothing. Just live. Live and burn up.
Hot titties forever, Joe.
Man, I want to give you something to talk about.
What? The hot flashes.
Oh yeah. Old bitches love that.
They do.
They always like to talk about it.
They always got fans out.
Golden girl pussies I'm so old
old bitches can't put landing strips on them
we just let it grow and burn up
do you let it grow now?
yeah
madness down there?
well you know I'm African American
so it's like Jackson 5 down there
Jackson 5 down there.
Jackson 5?
With no chemicals.
I mean, I don't have time to be shaving.
I mean, you know, some days I lift my stomach up and whack, tack, tack, but it's nothing
sexy,
you know? My friends be like,
I'm going to get me a landing strip. Bitch, you got
planes in your pussy.
Have you ever been waxed? No, I can't. I'm going to get me a landing strip. Bitch, you got planes in your pussy. Have you ever been waxed?
No, I can't.
I'm very, no, I don't want nobody down there in my vagina just yanking the hairs off of me.
I just, I think that's very lazy, you know, that you can't shave your own vagina.
But isn't it more efficient if you get a wax?
Doesn't it like take a little bit longer to grow back
rather than shaving?
Or the worst is you get it lasered.
They zap it.
They kill the follicles.
But who don't?
I'm 49.
When it get cold and that air try to get between your legs,
that vagina hair block the air
and it keep the click from freezing.
Well, if you live in a cold climate, yes.
Yeah, so I live in Indiana.
So you can't just walk around no bald head vagina.
You could be in the hospital.
That's true.
Yeah.
Or just wear pants.
The air come through the pants.
Like a lot of people.
A lot of people out there with shaved pussies walking around in subarctic climates.
I don't understand why you want all the hair off.
It itch
you mean when it's when it's grown back yeah i don't want that then you scratch it like you got crabs and you've had crabs no i haven't i felt very fortunate i knew a friend who had it he got
it on his eyebrows on his eyebrows how did he crawl up there well they went everywhere but
on his eyebrows how'd he crawl up there
well they went everywhere
but he had them
on his eyebrows
I know somebody
had them on their eyebrows
too
you do
yeah
are you serious
he was probably
eating pussy
and the crabs
jumped to his eyebrows
whatever hair
they just find hair
yeah
they lock up
they're so small
you can barely see them
you'll know they there
cause they itch
like fleas
yeah
wow
yeah I know
and so this dude had them and he had them in his eyebrows too that's wild see him you'll know they dare go they itch like fleas yeah yeah I know this
dude had him and he had him in his eyebrows too and he's good and you know
you get that shampoo for the eyebrows you get the shampoo for down there yeah
I tell you what's the most embarrassing moment I won't say what I had to go pick
up some crab medication for a relative one time I'm married at the time so it
wasn't me and I go up to this I'll wasn't me. And I go up to this, I was at Green
Brown Mall and I go up to
pick up the medication and
the guy who was working the register
little gay guy,
this motherfucker was
like, well what you have is
crabs. Would you like for me
to tell you how to use the medication?
I said, bitch, if you don't give me that package
I'll kill you.
He said it out loud. This was probably
about 20 years ago. Right there.
Do you need to know how to use your crab medication,
ma'am? I said, that's not my name.
That's not me. Give me that
goddamn medication. It's shampoo, nigga. I know how
to use this shit.
You know,
this is Green Bride Mall.
It's packed. Everybody's sitting there
waiting on their medicine. I told everybody
in that hall, like, I got crap.
I'm like, I couldn't say it's not me
this time.
Joe, I just took the medicine
and went out the fucking door
I said this motherfucker
just embarrassed me
he did it on purpose
he did it on purpose
for sure
he probably did it for that
yeah for sure
you should know
yeah
I was like
what the fuck you got
look
because I was trying
to get my hub
to go pick up the medication
I'm not gonna do that
I'm not gonna do that
I'm not gonna pick up nobody ST I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to pick up nobody's STD medication. Venereal diseases are very strange if you think about it, because it had to be like an original source.
Right.
Like it's, how are they, you know, it's like respiratory viruses and flus and things like that.
It kind of makes sense.
And a lot of them come from animals, right?
Like the swine flu comes from pigs.
Avian flu comes from birds.
It gets into people.
It jumps species and lands on people.
And then we get it.
It makes sense.
But venereal disease, like what was the source?
Some woman was trying to keep her husband at home
and cook that shit up in the kitchen.
All right, you're going to go out here?
You're going to put claps on this bitch.
She's got a lab coat on trying to figure out vd but it's like what was the original like what came first the chicken or the egg right what was the original vd who was the first person who got
it yeah and how does one develop a venereal disease right yeah what is where's it coming from
is that it's a good question right yeah because there had to be like a patient zero for gonorrhea.
There had to be like, where's that person getting gonorrhea?
How's that happen?
They're probably having sex with monkeys or something.
Maybe.
Well, everything got to be a monkey.
Y'all put everything on a monkey.
God damn.
What about a rhinoceros?
That's the scapegoat.
The monkey's the scapegoat.
Yeah, every time a disease comes, the monkey gave it to her.
And what?
People fuck giraffes, you know, too.
Rhinoceros?
Do they?
Giraffes?
Jesus Christ.
The pussy is too high.
How are they going to get to it?
You got to drug it.
I'm just saying.
I cannot.
I'm just saying.
Every time a disease comes, the monkey did it. The'm just saying. They're telling me to Z-Papa.
The monkey did it.
The monkey did it.
It's true, right?
That was the thing with AIDS.
They always said that.
The monkey did it.
Have you ever seen Chappelle's bit about that?
I think I did.
Oh, my God.
He's like, do you know how hard it would be to hold a monkey down and fuck it?
You right. Oh, my God, Chappelle's bit on that is fucking brilliant.
Oh yeah.
It's so funny.
She may look clean, but pick up good time girls, prostitutes, spread syphilis and gonorrhea.
What is this from the 50s?
Wow.
It looks like the wartime.
You can't beat the axis if
you get VD. Oh, wow. So that
is World War II. Yeah, the first thing it
said on Wikipedia is that
1494. Was the first VD?
Yeah, syphilis outbreak in Europe.
Oh, I can give you guys some information. How about
this? You know that expression, big wigs,
when you call someone a big wig? Do you know what that
came from? It came from a group
that was in France, and a group there was a in in
france and i think it was in the 1400s too there was uh a was it a prince or it was nobleman
they there are two brothers and they got syphilis and when they got syphilis the hair started
falling off everybody had syphilis back then they didn't know what the fuck syphilis was
and when you get syphilis your hair falls. So what these guys did was they got wigs.
And the more money you had, the bigger the wig you got.
And so they got these big fucking crazy wigs.
And they would wear these wigs.
With syphilis.
Yeah, that's why they call them big wigs.
Like, if you ever look at, like, men from these ancient times where they had these big crazy wigs, that's why they had those wigs.
That's what that came from?
It came from syphilis.
They were all losing their hair.
Not only losing their hair, they lost their teeth. they'd get holes in their face wild shit that's
probably why george washington had wooden teeth maybe yeah they didn't have any fucking hygiene
back then too though but they they all wore those crazy wooden wigs and so if you see like like in
the old days when i think they still have powdered wigs in some courts in England.
So all those guys, all those guys with those wigs, that was all because of syphilis.
Look at that thing on his cheek.
That's a hole.
It's a syphilis hole in his cheek.
So they would have literally their fucking skin would be rotting out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so these, see, like that was, there's all these that was uh like a guy who had syphilis
on his head look at that like literally his fucking head is rotting he's got holes in his
head what the fuck yeah the noses would fall off syphilis was wild and they didn't know what it was
right so they had no idea what was happening while their fucking cheeks were falling off and you could
look inside their face
and see their teeth i wonder look at that lady her nose fell off what what what did the work
how did they name his syphilis was that from somebody it's a good question i don't know
who are the brothers who are those brothers that article you just had had those guys no but it
didn't say oh it didn't just talk about louis the't say? It just talked about Louis VI, XVII. Wow.
It was so many of those people back then.
They were wild people back then.
Just fucking, there was no condoms, right?
And they all would give each other diseases.
And they didn't even know what it was.
They didn't even know what diseases.
Like back then, if the plague came, they thought it was like ghosts and shit.
They didn't know what the fuck was going on. They didn't know what was the cause of it because they hadn't really isolated bacteria and viruses.
They didn't really know.
So when they got syphilis, they had no idea what was happening to them.
So these dudes got wigs.
And the bigger the wig, the more rich you were because you could afford some crazy ass wig.
So they were all going bald and all fucked up and going crazy.
Heads falling off.
Yeah, hair falling off, everything.
Big holes in your face.
It's wild shit.
Don't call me no big wig.
Yeah, that's the origin of the term big wig.
Wow.
But if you still, I think in certain courts to this day in England,
they still wear those powdered wigs.
Just for tradition.
Yeah, and the tradition started because of syphilis.
Wow.
Wow. Wow. Now, don't think that's why i got on
the weed okay that's not what i'm thinking okay i ain't got no holes in my head they just have
penicillin they give you a shot of penicillin it goes away yeah i just got on that because i don't
want to be fucking with my real hair because it draw up in the heat i ain't got hey my wig ain't
big i understand okay no worries hey don't get confused don't think all the
black women's out here big wigs and it was white people back then look at all those people in
france if only they had a bus to come pick them up and take them right to the syphilis center
i wonder who was the first person to figure out how to fix that
what's up this doesn't i looked up why they're still wearing it.
This is the reason they say on how stuff works.
Many uniforms, wigs are an emblem of anonymity,
an attempt to distance the wearer from personal involvement
and a way to visually draw on the supremacy of law, says Newton.
Wigs are so much a part of British criminal courts
that if a banister does not wear a wig,
it is seen as an insult to the court.
Yeah, whatever. I guarantee you
started out with syphilis.
Why else would men wear wigs?
So they just got these wigs
sitting by the courthouse door. You pick up one and put it on your head
when you walk in? I think you probably have your own.
You probably wear your own wig.
You take it home? Yeah, you probably have your own. Like special wig that you wear when you go in? I think you probably have your own. You probably wear your own wig. You take it home? Yeah, you probably have your own,
like, special wig
that you wear when you go to court.
And it's not like a lace fray.
It's not, like, nice.
It looks like shit.
It looks like they just plop it on.
Yeah, like your regular hair
sticking out underneath it.
Yeah, it looks dumb.
It's like a hat.
Yeah.
But England's got a lot of wacky things.
Like, they still have a queen over there
for whatever reason.
You know, I heard that, like,
I heard somebody have a conversation.
They were like,
they feel like that a lot of British people people are unattractive and then they were saying that that's because way back in european history there were inbred like people used to inbreed
for sure the royals that's why for sure yeah yeah there's a lot of images like paintings
of royal families from france and and all over europe where you see the like eyes a little too
close together because they all fucked each other's cousins.
Because you had to only use royal blood, right?
Yeah, I had no idea.
Yeah.
So if you had a cousin, you had to fuck your cousin because you weren't allowed to fuck
a commoner.
It's wild shit.
I think that wasn't that long ago if people did that. That they believed in royal blood.
See if you can find some pictures of
royal blood.
There's a lot of pictures
like paintings of inbred royals.
And they just look
they just look off.
I have a friend who has a
she has a chocolate lab
and this dog's all fucked up.
She got it from a puppy mill
and this dog's eyes are just way too close.
I was just talking to somebody the other day
about cross-eyed dogs.
This dog is not cross-eyed. They're just too
narrow.
Look at that guy. 100%.
Jesus Christ.
People are like, who?
Centuries of
inbreeding among European royals
caused the deformity known as
hasberg jaw so they developed some crazy looking jaw and it's just from centuries of fucking your
family wow wild wild look at that that is weird i would stop my cousin at a door like do you see
what we look like do you really want to make a love you don't want to do this shit jesus christ i know i mean like how does that ever get filtered
out like you got to think like how much of that inbreeding shit like ruined generation after
generation after generation look at him right there with the wig on. Yeah. Looking like Michael Jackson. Yeah, look at this.
Hasburg jaw.
Why inbred monarchs didn't measure up as rulers?
Well, probably because they're mentally challenged, right?
I mean, if it fucks your face up like that, what's it doing to your brain?
I know some regular people who look like that now.
Not that crazy.
I'm talking about the nose and how narrow the face is.
Maybe, but I bet also they're probably being nice when they're painting this, too.
They probably are.
You're probably right.
Because they would probably kill them if they made them look ugly.
Right.
If they made them look like what they really look like.
You think they look worse?
I think they look worse.
Yeah.
Yeah, because they're royals.
Probably.
So where are they now?
They probably don't even know what they look like.
Well, they died off, I'm sure.
Those jeans have died off, for sure.
I know some long-chinned bitches like that.
I don't know what you're talking about.
That shit ain't dead.
Well, there's long faces, but that's a particularly deformed face.
The whole idea of royals is crazy shit.
But what's really crazy is that I had this lady on recently, last week actually, who escaped North Korea.
And it is a fucking wild podcast.
She escaped North Korea when she was 13.
She was a sex slave in China.
And then she escaped from China and made it to South Korea and then made it to America.
And it's a crazy fucking podcast.
But this is what's crazy is like there are royals right now.
There's dictators right now in certain parts of the world.
And that that's happening right now in North Korea.
But that was like how people lived throughout most of history.
Most like most countries were dictatorships.
Even like when people talk about Greece. Greece was a democracy, sure, for a little while,
then eventually became a dictatorship.
And even when it was a democracy, they had slaves, they killed each other for random
fucking reasons.
The Romans did the same shit and that eventually became a dictatorship as well. Like every fucking civilization up until the United States in 1776 had devolved into a dictatorship.
That's why people are so worried about this country and the direction it's going.
Because they're like, look, this could become a dictatorship too.
Yeah.
That's why they're scared of masks and fighting on planes.
People are just worked up.
The scared of masks and fighting on planes? People are just worked up. The scared of masks and fighting on planes things like that. The country
is just so many people have been
out of work for like over a year
or lost their jobs or
lost family members or
also just scared.
So many people are just scared.
And they get back outside and they don't know how to fucking act.
I got to tell you this. We was at
I was in Miami.
You didn't go to Miami.
No.
So I'm in Miami.
And I'm just, you know, because I flew during the pandemic and worked a lot.
And so I'm at the Miami airport and starting to open, shit starting to open back up.
And I see this man.
I was like, I just want to tell you hello.
And he looked at me and he was like, I said, you don't know me. I said i said look i'm so happy this fucking pandemic is ending
i don't know what to do i just want to hug every fucking body and this white dude said
right on to your tribe sister i say tribe i can't even fucking call them racist i'm so happy
florida's a different race in and of itself what the fuck
make you think
I'm from a tribe sir
why don't you tribe
me and my
me and my friend
Quisha was out there
I said
he just thought
I had a tribe
he said
we with your tribe
I said
alrighty
you know
he didn't talk about it
he be like
you racist son of a bitch
but I'm so happy to see people i said
fuck it i'm gonna go and get my runner call i couldn't say anything florida opened up earlier
than any place right yeah did they ever close sort of for like a little while and then the governor
got on tv and made some actual valid points that you should be able to take your own risks and we
should protect the older people the people that are the most at risk and you know and vaccinate them as quickly as we can and before
that protect them from exposure and everybody else just do whatever the fuck you want to do
he believes in freedom it's weird watching so many people move to florida like florida was always a
fucked up place that no one wanted to live like unless you were running from somebody that you
like got divorced from in new york nobody wanted to live in florida i don't want to live. Like, unless you were running from somebody that you, like, got divorced from in New York,
nobody wanted to live in Florida.
I don't want to live in Florida.
I just like Disney.
Disney's awesome.
Florida's not a bad place to live, though.
It's too fucking hot.
It gets hot.
And they alligator walk around like
motherfucking drug dealers.
That's an issue.
I can't fucking alligator.
Alligator killed a baby at Disney World.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, in the pond.
I remember that.
Yeah, we was not far from that resort.
But it was kind of, it's just me, alligators and those little, what's those little damn?
Iguanas.
They just walk up the wall.
Ain't nobody screaming.
They're not even little.
They're big.
They get to be like five feet long.
Really?
Yeah, they hunt them now.
There's all these videos on YouTube of people hunting iguanas and eating them, cooking them and eating them.
Oh, my God.
I was like, I can deal with roaches, but I can't deal with no fucking iguanas.
Iguanas.
Worse than this.
When it gets cold out, they freeze because they're a tropical animal.
And sometimes Florida gets 30 degrees.
So when it gets 30 degrees, they die.
So they're hanging on trees.
They die.
And they knock people out because they fall frozen and land on people's heads.
So these old people are walking around Florida and a fucking falling iguana cracks them on the top of the head.
I like how you imitate shit.
That family need old people.
You imagine that's how you go.
I've had a nice life.
You get KO'd by a fucking iguana.
That's what takes you out.
Wow.
Yeah.
Before COVID.
And the iguanas, just like the reptiles that they have, all the shit that's in the swamps,
like all the pythons and everything, it's all just people's pets.
That's Florida people.
They're so wild.
They just had like pythons and shit and they're like, oh, throw it in the fucking swamp.
No one will know.
Meanwhile, now there's more pythons in the swamp than anything.
They've killed all the mammals.
There's like almost no mammals in the Everglades.
They killed all the raccoons, all the marsh hares, all the deer.
They did a survey recently of the Everglades where they were trying to find all these various mammals.
And they said that they've been decimated down by a minimum of 90 so 90 of i think that was
the number see if you can find that like what percentage of mammals are missing in the everglades
because of the pythons it's gotten so bad that pythons are eating alligators what there's a
fucking picture of a giant python that's trying to eat a 12-foot alligator.
I think I've seen that.
So the alligator is breaking out of its body because it's swallowing this thing whole.
And this alligator is like, fuck you.
Do it again, do it again.
Fuck you.
See, alligators can hold their breath for fucking days.
They could be underwater for hours.
And so the alligator just walked up out his ass.
Well, he's fighting through, and he burst through the thing's side, so they're both dead.
They're both dead trapped in this water.
Here, look at this.
Yeah, 99.
Okay, I downplayed it.
The PNS Journal scientists report that observations of some mammal species have declined by more than 99%.
So a lot of them are just completely gone.
Look at how big that python is.
And all of those things started out as someone's pets.
It's really wild.
There's so many of them.
And here's how fucking stupid California is.
You're not allowed to buy python goods,
like a python purse or python shoes.
It's illegal.
They're exotics.
We're protecting them.
Meanwhile, they're everywhere.
They're all freaking go to Florida.
And they're eating babies and all kind of shit.
Oh, pythons will eat everything.
Yeah, they'll eat everything they can.
They'll eat babies for sure.
But see if you can get that picture of the one that ate the alligator because it's crazy
when you see how big the alligator is and how big the python is.
And they just both died.
Yeah, it's a battle of the monsters.
Battle of the monsters.
Heartless, cold-blooded fucking monsters. I can't watch Discover Channel. Oh, I watch it all the time. Yeah, it's a battle of the monsters. Wow. Battle of the monsters. Heartless, cold-blooded fucking monsters.
I can't watch Discovery Channel.
Oh, I watch it all the time.
Oh, my God.
It makes me cry.
When I see an alligator just grab a baby deer, I'll be like, don't eat him.
It hurts my feelings.
They're ruthless animals.
All of them.
Them fucking coyotes.
Look at that.
So that's a little one.
That's no big deal.
That's small.
But there's a photo of a, see, Google photo alligator.
There it is.
That's the one, the one in the right-hand corner.
Jesus fucking Christ.
That one right there.
See that one?
See how it's bursting out of its side?
Right.
Yeah, so that is a python that died trying to eat an alligator.
And the alligator, like, fought its way through the python's body.
Did he get out?
Nope, didn't make it.
Died.
They both died.
So they found these two dead like this but look how big that python is
crazy wow in the everglades that's crazy the everglades is just monster soup that's all it
is this is monster soup out there who go there? Crazy white people with those fan boats.
Yeah,
they got a show
like that,
don't they?
Oh,
yeah,
yeah,
swamp people.
Yeah,
swamp people.
That's a great show.
My husband love
watching that bullshit.
I'm like,
I don't see how you can,
first of all,
I got,
I speak Ebonics.
You can hardly understand
the fuck I'm saying.
Then you get them
swamp people like,
what the fuck are they saying?
Those Louisiana people
that live in the swamp and hunt alligators?
Yeah.
They have a whole, that Cajun sort of lingo.
I'm not going to eat no alligator dick.
I don't understand a fucking word they say.
They have to give them subtitles.
Yeah.
You wouldn't eat alligator?
Dick.
Dick.
Okay, I understand that.
You wouldn't eat alligator.
No, I wouldn't eat no alligator either.
I'd eat alligator.
I don't eat no frog.
I've had alligator at a restaurant before In Florida but it was like frozen alligator
You know it's like if you eat it like
Chilies
It's like that caliber of food
But apparently everybody that I know
That has actually hunted alligators
I know a lot of dudes that hunt alligators
And when you eat it if you eat it fresh it is delicious
Alligators apparently taste very good
Yeah there's all videos on YouTube
On how to butcher alligators apparently taste very good Yeah there's all videos on YouTube On how to butcher alligators
And they show them
Like taking it apart
And what the best cuts of meat are
So we had alligator at the grove one time
And that little place
And it was fried
It was fried
It was chewy
You didn't like it
It was chewy
The grove in LA?
Yeah
They got a Cajun spot in there
And they had like this
It was chewy
I didn't like it
See the thing is
If you're gonna get it from the gro in LA, you're going to get it frozen.
Apparently, the way to get it is fresh.
So it's like, you know, like you buy fish at the supermarket, you're getting fresh fish, right?
Right.
Especially if you're near the coast.
Well, if you buy alligator in Florida, if you get fresh alligator, or if you hunt alligator yourself, apparently it's delicious.
Really?
Yeah.
Nah.
Nah. I can't. Nah. Nah.
I can't.
But you like catfish?
Catfish is delicious.
I don't like catfish.
You don't?
Really?
Really?
But if it's battered right and fried nice?
No.
No?
They eat everything.
They do eat everything, but so do lobsters,
and they're delicious.
Yeah.
I like lobsters.
Lobsters just eat dead shit.
They're bugs.
They're just bugs that eat dead shit. But God, they're good. Yeah. Lobsters just eat dead shit. They're bugs. They're just bugs that eat dead shit.
But God, they're good.
They're so good.
Cafe's so, it's grainy to me.
Really?
Grainy?
I mean, I don't know if grainy is the word.
It's got a grittiness to it, taste to it.
Maybe it's just how it's prepared.
Maybe who's preparing it.
Maybe they didn't do a good job.
You going to talk about me like that? No, it's like how you prepare it did you catch it yourself no okay but if you catch yourself
then you know like how it was cleaned and you know how you gutted it and cut it and you know a lot of
times people will soak them in milk that's one of the things they do with catfish apparently it
enhances the flavor for how long long? I don't know.
Different times, you know.
There's all sorts of recipes online.
I've seen people doing that.
I've never heard of that.
I'm going to do that.
Yeah, because where I live now in Austin,
there's quite a few catfish here.
I would like to catch some and eat them.
Well, call me next time you cook.
I will.
I will. I love watching your videos.
I love to cook.
I'm like, this motherfucker has the nicest meat.
That's that dark red elk.'s what that is that's that
that's that you like the grill don't you i love it it's caveman yeah i like being over fire
fire and meat that's caveman yeah remember that time i told you to take me hunting with you you
thought i was too slow i get killed by you have to have a scooter i can't take a scooter in the woods you'll scare all the animals off
I'll be like
get the fuck off
Joe got a pistol
Joe here to kill y'all
get the fuck off
don't you stand around
he trying to kill y'all
would you really want to hunt?
I've never been to the woods
I went to a summer camp one time
and we stayed in those little things that didn't have doors on it.
It just had a top on it, and it was deep down in Georgia.
Muskeet just ate my ass up.
Oh, yeah.
I was like, I don't understand why people, what do they get off in these fucking woods?
All these fucking spiders that you're not familiar with, just outdoory.
I don't know.
I just like being in the wild if you wouldn't let
me get killed i will go halfway in the woods with you the problem is like you gotta go pretty deep
in there to go where the animals are like on a normal day of like hunting we'll hike 10 11 miles
in the mountains yeah it's normal and so what do you do when a bear come up joe well it's
not good it's not good most of the places i hunt don't have grizzlies if i did hunt a place with
grizzlies i would definitely usually because i hunt with a bow but i would definitely bring a
pistol as well if i'm around grizzlies yeah because i'm like then you see the bear man he got ate up
his girlfriend grizzly man. Did you watch that documentary?
Yeah.
My husband watched that mess.
That's an unintentional comedy.
That's what that is.
All they found was his spine.
They didn't find much.
Yeah.
They didn't find much.
I didn't even know bears eat you all the way.
Oh, bears will eat the fuck out of you.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bears eat people.
For sure.
Can you see me talking to that bear?
Hey, bear, I ain't taking baths today.
This ain't what you want.
They don't give a fuck.
Bear just killed a lady in Montana just just a few days ago yeah a lady
was a cyclist she had parked somewhere to camp out and pulled her right out of her tent pulled
her out of the tent yeah tore the tent apart pulled her out killed her she didn't have no
fucking gun no she was like i'm just like out here in nature. She's like a cyclist.
You know, a lot of those people are, those cyclists are, you know, they just love hiking
and, you know, outdoors type shit.
And they probably think they're going to be okay.
Because most of the time you're okay.
Did he eat her?
It's very rare.
It started eating her.
Yeah.
Somebody ran him off?
I think they eventually found it and killed it.
Yeah.
How do you know that was the bear?
How do you know he ain't going to kill the wrong bear?
You didn't get a bear time to say he ain't having nothing to do with it?
Well, once they kill the bear, then they can do an assessment.
But what if a titty went in his throat?
The way they find out is the bear usually is protecting the body because the body's his.
Really?
Yeah.
So if a bear kills you,
they usually bury you.
They bury half of you.
They eat what they want to eat off of you
and then they start covering you with dirt.
And then if you go near the body,
then they rush you.
And I think that's what they did with her.
I think they tried to come near the body
and the bear was protecting the body,
which meant that it was like, it was his kill.
Oh,
like that's something I know a guy who was a wildlife photographer.
I read him.
I didn't know about him.
I read about a guy who was a wildlife photographer and he was killed by a bear.
I think that was in Montana as well pretty recently because he had found a dead
moose that this bear had killed and he was trying to get close to where
the moose was to take photos of the bear and then the bear thought he was trying
to steal the moose and killed him so now them both of them bear together and they
protect them both for him so he gonna eat him later well this guy was like
famous for wildlife photography unfortunately so he'd take these like
really close-up pictures of bears and he just
rolled the dice too many times.
Because they're just, you know,
they're a 2,000-pound wild dog.
That's what it's like. I mean, they're fucking
huge. They're so big.
And the make-yourself-bigger shit don't work.
To a grizzly?
To a grizzly? No, you gotta
shoot them. What do you mean, make-yourself-bigger?
They always say, like, if you come across a bear, make bigger i think that's mountain lions they say that's the line so
how you gonna make yourself bigger there's not a way you can make yourself big enough to scare a
bear i know they tall they slap shit at you the only time bears are scared is if they live in a
place where people hunt them and that's like alaska in alaska sometimes bears will run off
from people because they've had experiences with people or they've seen people shoot guns
and kill bears near them they'll be scared of humans but everywhere else
where people don't hunt humans which is most of the United States the only place
in the United States you can hunt grizzly bears is in Alaska and you know
but those are the people that have the most experience with them because they
they're dealing with them all the time.
They want to cut the population down,
but places like Yellowstone and where all the grizzlies are
and Montana and Wyoming, you can't hunt them.
Some lady just got in trouble for taking a picture at Yellowstone
close up with the bear.
So stupid.
Yeah, and he ran her off to the bear.
I think his kids was up there and he kind of chased her.
And she walked off and she got in trouble for that.
Well, it definitely wasn't his kids because he'll eat his
kids. It's a female.
The females run him off. Well, her. I call
everybody his. Because the females,
they have to protect their kids from the males.
Because the males, they actively target
babies. Like when they come out of the womb
or the den rather, like when they
hibernate all winter, one of the first
things they try to do is find babies.
They're sleeping. Even if it's theirs.
They don't give a fuck.
That's how much they don't want to pay child support?
That's how you get out of child support. You eat your fucking babies.
Nature's just so ruthless oh i know that's why i don't go out there joe if you're gonna go halfway in the woods
and we're gonna set up a campfire with some marshmallows and a little chocolate that's nice
i do that with you flat off the mosquitoes and tell some spooky stories yeah i could do that
shit but if you're going with a pilster and a bow and arrow i ain't gonna be able
to help you yeah well it's not for everybody no you sleep out there too sometimes yeah it depends
on where you're going yeah i don't like camping though i really don't i don't like sleeping on
the ground i would way rather like go back out and go somewhere where you could sleep
but i'll do it you. I do like being there.
And sometimes if you've got to camp, if that's the only way you can go.
Some people love camping.
My friend Steve, he loves camping.
I got evicted too much when I was a kid.
It triggered home.
It's not a good way to sleep.
You're way better off in a house.
Houses are protected.
A house and animals are not going to come in and eat you.
No, I just can't sleep outside.
Yeah, it's
an acquired taste.
But for some people, some people just love being rugged
too. They like the idea of being rugged.
They like the idea of cooking
their food over a campfire, sleeping
in a tent. Taking a bath halfway.
In a stream. Yeah, wash themselves
in a cold stream. That's people who got money.
Yes, exactly.
Is that who do that?
Yes, exactly, right?
Because broke people already do that.
Why would we do that?
Right.
I guess that's why I don't like it, Joe.
Well, some people do it that don't have money because they just want the food.
And the best way to get wild food is you got to hunt.
And if you're going to hunt, you got to go where the animals are.
And they're usually not where the people are so you got to get
in there pretty far no it's like that island what is that island though
indigenous North Sentinel Island well you what a good going at it drag your
ass they kill your ass that guy would have been trying to bring Jesus to say
come on we got the Lord for your ass. They shot that born arrow
and drug that motherfucker off and peeled him.
Yep. Yeah. Yeah, they killed that dude.
Killed him with a Bible in his hand.
Killed him with a Bible in his hand. They did.
He's like, thank you for the word. We're going to use it
to start a fire. He didn't.
He wasn't supposed to go there either.
It's illegal to visit them, which is kind of strange
because you're not allowed
to. It's like the visit them, which is kind of strange because you're not allowed to.
It's like the idea is that they are uncontacted, so you're not allowed to contact them.
But they're never going to.
There's only like 39 of them.
Where is that at?
It's off the coast of India.
So these people that live there, they're the direct descendants of people who left Africa 60,000 years ago,
and they landed on this island. And a very small population.
They think that most it's ever been is like 150 people.
And so out of these people, there's 39 of them left.
And they probably have an inbreeding problem too.
I'm quite sure they do. They're not really studied.
But there was a guy that,
there was a really fucked up story
where a guy visited them in the 1800s.
His name was Commander Maurice Vidal Portman.
And this guy was like a pervert.
And he would go there and take pictures with these men and have them dressed up weird,
like dressed up like Roman soldiers and take pictures with them and shit.
And it was like he was doing weird freak shit, like measuring their dicks and measuring their
balls and take a deep, like literally said, this one had testicles the size of a sparrow's
egg like this was like one of his notes so he was a freak we gave these guys a disease gave people
a disease like he was probably like probably had some normal human disease for europeans
and gave it to these people and a few people died and they chased him off the island
so these people when this guy went back with the, one of the reasons why they're so hostile is probably they have terrible stories of being visited in the past by people who took pictures of their dicks and gave them diseases.
Can you imagine if people did that to all colonizers?
Yeah, so that's the guy.
That's Commander Maurice Vidal Portman.
Wow.
Yeah, and so he did, and there was quite a few different islands that he did this to.
Yeah, that's the Andamanese. So he was did, and there was quite a few different islands that he did this to. Yeah, that's the Andamanese.
So he was with these people.
And so those occasionally people would go and fuck with these indigenous people.
And if they hadn't, maybe someone could go there and bring them food and bring them medicine and, you know, treat them respectfully today and maybe help them in some sort of way
but then the question is should they do that because if they did that and then they took
them out of there that culture would not exist anymore right but then the question is but yeah
they don't even have fire like these people are living on this very small island it's a fucked
up little place they they i don't know what food they're eating but they're getting it from the
ocean or they're getting it for them whatever animals live on that island with them but like the
thing about this is the thing about colonization is like that's like how like fire and every in
medicine and everything that we have is normal to us that's normal to them right we don't need to
go fuck with it the question is like should you give them the, first of all, colonizing them, like, taking over their land, yeah, clearly that's fucked up and that shouldn't happen.
But should someone allow them to move off the island and come to civilization?
Like, if you could speak their language and you could say, hey, man, we have electricity, we have air conditioning, refrigerators, restaurants. Can you imagine taking someone from an island
where they've been hunting turtles their whole life
or whatever the fuck they eat,
and then bringing them to a nice restaurant,
freaking them out?
I don't know what the answer to that is.
I don't know if you should or shouldn't do that.
I think you should mind your fucking business.
Because if they wanted to get off that island...
No, no, no, they can't.
They can't get off that island.
They've tried.
They don't have the ability to make a boat that can
survive the journey. Because they,
you're on an island that doesn't, they don't
have metal. Like, they don't have. Well, I'm saying
if they wanted to get on that island, so many
people have tried. You know, like, the ones who tried to
visit, they'd be like, hey, we're waiting on you. We're gonna kill you and
take your boat and get the fuck up out of here. But instead
they keep dragging in wood and skinning
you, so. Well, they've killed people before that
fucked up besides that guy. There was a ship that shipwrecked close to the shore and they they killed those guys
and then they think they might have salvaged some metal from that ship because they think they've
seen them with like makeshift knives they've created from some of the metal from the ship
it's a it's a crazy story so what they do, just have somebody watching them all the time?
They just have rules where you can't go there.
I think whether it's India or whatever country is in control of that island,
they just have some very strict laws about interacting with them.
But it is fascinating because these people essentially lived like people lived 60,000 years ago.
Right.
Because they're not sure if they have fire.
They probably are.
They're worried, though.
They're worried because there's so few of them because of inbreeding.
They're worried that they're inbreeding because this is such a small genetic population.
You know, they have 39 people.
Right.
It's not a lot.
So they're worried about molestation?
No, they're worried that they're inbreeding with each other,
that the genetic diversity is not enough to sustain a healthy population.
Well, mind your business.
That's Ms. Pat's answer to everything.
Mind your fucking business.
It's 39 of them.
I mean, when they eventually die off, they just want the island.
I guarantee you they want to put a hotel on the island.
There's nothing on the island.
Not yet.
Maybe.
Not yet. Imagine how fucked up that to put a hotel on the island. There's nothing on the island. Not yet. Maybe. Right. Imagine if they did.
Imagine how fucked up that would be.
Yeah, I mean. People working there
at the hotel that used to live on the island
and now they work there. Yeah, so
they just want what they can't have.
Leave them people the fuck alone. Mind your business
and you don't get killed. Yeah, but if
the person could figure out a way to make
a boat, maybe we should just
drop off some boats. just drop off some boats just
drop off some boats whatever you want to do them folks got knives that travels faster than bullets
they have a lot of bows and arrows yeah i'm not with them they folks right what they want
i mind my business if they want to get off their island they be don't swim the up that eye
now i ain't with nobody that ain't with me okay that's what white people problem
stop with people white people yeah man them people they wreck where they want to be at if they want to
their uncles and cousins aunties if they're going to make the family bigger hey they ain't got no
laws ain't no police on that island do your thing that's true too and that's one of the things when
they killed that guy that came with the bible there was was some question, like, should they be in trouble for murder?
No, he went for us.
Hey, he knocked on their door.
Exactly.
And also, like, their roles are different than ours.
Well, take your badass on in the woods.
And if we're going to do that, then we would go and prosecute North Korea for killing their people, too.
And we don't do shit about that.
But also, then whenever somebody gets eaten by a shark,
you can't go kill the shark because you was in their house.
That's why you got eaten, because you were in their house. No, that's where I disagree. I'll kill the gets eaten by a shark, you can't go kill the shark because you was in their house. That's why you got eaten because you were in their house.
That's where I disagree.
I'll kill the fuck out of a shark.
But you're in their territory.
Yeah, but we win.
We're people.
So what the fuck are them people in the bushes?
If a shark kills one of my friends and I know where that shark is, like if it's got a beacon or something, I'm going to go kill that fucking shark 100%.
Yeah.
I'm getting it.
But don't you think that that's their territory?
I'm going to eat it too.
So if you rolled your ass up near them folks islands.
No, but that's a different animal.
Okay, all right.
That's like someone's house.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying with the shark.
Or the Amazon.
No, fuck sharks.
That ain't going to fit, Joe.
That's their territory.
If somebody comes into your territory.
Not anymore.
I just showed up.
I showed up with a gun.
Now it's mine.
So what you saying,
if a motherfucker jet skiing
is okay for the shark
to just yank his ass
off the jet ski?
You in they house.
I'm not saying
it's okay for them to eat it.
I'm saying it makes sense
that they would feel threatened
or they would eat you
because why are you here?
Let me just explain.
Let me explain something to you.
Sharks do not ever feel threatened.
The ocean is way bigger
than that island.
And if you see a motherfucker
out here playing in your yard,
just go on over there. You got plenty more room to go fuck around in. The ocean is big. than that island. And if you see a motherfucker out here playing in your yard, just go on over there.
You got plenty more room to go fuck around in.
The ocean is big.
That's a good point.
Like, the island is theirs.
I see that.
I see that.
But I just think it's territory.
Like, don't go into their territory if you don't want to be eaten.
Joe Rogan, he's black and scared of water.
That's why he talking that shit.
But if you saw someone kill one of your friends, if you saw a shark kill one of your friends,
you wouldn't want to kill that shark?
Hell, yeah, I wouldn't want to kill it.
That's what I'm saying.
But I'm saying I can't blame it.
Oh, excuse me.
I'm saying I can't blame it.
I would kill it.
It's not a person, so you can't blame it.
They kill everything they can.
If I saw a shark kill one of my friends, I'm getting the fuck out.
Somebody needs to be able to tell this motherfucker's story.
Ain't no saying I'm not walking out there whooping that shark ass
that mother fucker faster than me
you know I just had a scooter at Disney
I'm gonna do the most niggery shit
I'm getting the fuck out
I'm gonna walk on water
like Jesus Christ
hey they got him
I was blessed
they developed these suits for people to wear around bears You hear me? Yeah. Hey, they got him. I was blessed.
They developed these suits for people to wear around bears.
These bear suits.
They're like these big metal suits with spikes popping out of them.
Have you ever seen any of that?
Mm-mm.
See if we can find those.
What's that for?
They're bear-proof suits.
They've developed these.
Yeah, well, I think they started out in Siberia.
I think Kanye was wearing. Ah! It does. Look, that's it. they've developed, I think they started out in Siberia. I think what Kanye was wearing.
It does.
Look, that's it. It's selling for $2,500.
That's a Siberian bear hunting suit.
No.
So they literally developed a suit that's covered in spikes so that if the bear tries to bite you, it hurts his teeth.
Wow.
Or it hurts his mouth.
I mean, you're going to have to ask that dude.
But since we have his jacket, I doubt he's alive.
You know? I guarantee. That's a good point. That's a good point. You probably peeled him like an avocado. gonna have to ask that dude but since we have his jacket i doubt he's alive you know i guess
that's a good point you probably peeled him like an avocado i guarantee you that's gonna be that's
gonna be a yeezy outfit in six months it was literally i wasn't joking when i said i look at
his jacket oh it's the thing you just did that's hilarious oh this was he when he was on stage with
the mask on yeah no he had a stock No, he had a stocking cap.
He had a stocking cap on his face.
That is what he's wearing.
He's wearing a bear hunting jacket.
Wow.
That is crazy.
And that jacket probably cost $3,000.
Yep.
$30,000.
Yep.
That is wild.
What's so crazy is they're going to buy it too, Joe.
Of course they will.
And they're going to buy that.
I keep telling black people, I say Kanye is rich.
He's a fucking genius.
Y'all can't walk around the United States being black with that shit on your head.
It looks like you about to rob the gas station.
If Kanye had food stamps, black people would buy it for $3,000 a pop.
Not me.
Kanye's an unusual human.
Have you ever met him?
No.
His brain is firing at a different rpm than everybody else's
it's just going it's just going like he's probably simultaneously thinking about new products while
he's thinking about new songs while he's thinking about he wants to reimagine housing he wants to
build houses he wants to like develop like communities that are self-reliant communities
where they grow their own food and use solar power. And the dude is just constantly going with new ideas, constantly.
He's like, you know, there's people whose brains just don't work at the same speed as ours.
And that's one of those people.
And he's just constantly trying to process things.
And he was saying that when they tried to get him on medication, they were like,
listen, you've got to get on medication're they tried to calm him down but the medication
made him he he started getting lethargic yeah he got gained a lot of weight he looked different he
looked slow he looked unhappy exactly and you know like he i mean he's just he it was a droopiness
to his face and i remember the black community like, what the fuck is Kanye on?
Yeah.
They put him on some medication.
But then when he got off of it, he came alive.
I don't know why he put the stocking cap on his head.
But I guarantee you, you're going to have yeez across the top and you're going to see a whole bunch of people with ski masks on.
And there's going to be a lot of niggas in jail.
Well, in this day and age where everybody has to wear a mask, that's the solution in his mind.
That ain't the solution for us, Joe.
Okay.
Did you see Kim was wearing one, too?
She was?
Yeah, she wore one, too.
She wore the whole deal.
Her kids are like, what the fuck are you wearing, Mommy?
What is this?
You don't pay $3 for your makeup, and now you got on a ski cap.
I wonder how many people are going to wear those bear hunting suits around now.
Not me. People are going to buy them.
Oh yeah. They're going to buy them. If he makes them,
they'll buy them. Well, when you like an artist,
you buy them. Look, I'm not even Beyonce
size, but I find myself waiting
on the Ivy Park shoes. I can't wear shit
but Beyonce shoes she drop.
But I find myself waiting on
Ivy Park to drop some shit. You
hear me? I have four phones and a laptop
going. I got gotta get me a pair
of ivy park shoes when kanye came on the podcast before he came on there was one point in time
where he wanted to redesign my studio he's like i want to redesign a studio i want to do it
somewhere else we're going to redesign i was like okay but then uh jamie got covet jamie was not
there for the kanye interview unfortunately so he uh had, look, man, we just lost our producer.
We got to do it in our studio.
So he did it in here, in our old studio.
But he did not like it.
He did not like the aesthetics of the old studio.
Like his mind was always thinking about design.
And when he told me this, I was like, okay.
And so then all of a sudden we're on FaceTime.
He starts showing me sketches that he already has of the new studio that he wants to design
He's making a studio like a womb like this big crazy studio here
This is what these wild ideas like his brain is on it's like he's on jet fuel just constantly going
But that's why he can do all the shit that he does. It's not a normal mind
He had to listen his party. Did he drop the album yet?
I don't think so.
And still ain't dropped the album.
And people,
well, what the fuck,
it's like crack to him now.
Yeah, but that's what he does.
He gets everybody
excited about things.
He's a fucking genius.
Yeah.
He really is.
Well, we're not gonna drop this.
I should take the show back.
After this podcast,
everybody's gonna be
so hyped up for your show.
Yeah.
Miss Pat's decided to hang on to it for a while, and now she has a bear hunting suit.
And don't forget the face mask.
And a scooter.
Face mask, bear hunting suit, and a scooter just driving around Beverly Hills.
Beverly Hills?
I live in Indiana.
I know.
I'm just saying.
Are you going to stay in Indiana?
What if you become a gigantic star and the show becomes huge?
You've got to move out of Indiana.
Oh, yeah.
Because they'll bother you there.
They'll bother you anywhere, Joe.
Yeah, but are they going to bother you there?
Do I get peace?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I say, get the fuck out of my face.
And I mean it.
And I love my fans.
I mean, God, I do.
These people, some of them have been rocking me from the start.
And they're like, I've run into people, can I take a picture?
I said, let me talk to you for a minute.
Hey, y'all, no makeup.
My wig ain't glued down.
Hey, watch my ass.
I said, but what we're going to do is I'm going to send you a gift or some shit.
But you ain't going to put, I said, thank God for Snapchat.
So I said, give me your motherfucking phone.
You got Snapchat?
They said, no.
I said, I'm going to do it on mine, mine and i'm gonna airdrop you the picture so snapchat allow you to put on makeup
even though you don't have on makeup that's hilarious you're not gonna take a fucking
picture because they already be i already be doing my podcast with no bro you don't see me
i'm a podcast i'll be down there fucking in my sitting in my basement looking like i'm the only
motherfucker with a podcast without a professional studio where are you doing your podcast out of just your basement out of my
basement yeah who are you doing it with uh Dion Curry a comedian and Chris Spangles and how many
of you how many do you have out oh probably we got about 200 or 100 and something I don't know
it's going good it's going really good thank you for making me start it's going good? It's going really good. Thank you for making me start it. It's going really fucking good.
I didn't think I liked to talk that much.
What?
Did you talk to somebody about whether or not you liked to talk?
Because everybody would have said yes.
I actually like it, and the fans love it.
Of course they do.
I enjoy it.
It's a breath.
It relieves me every week.
You have a take on everything. You have a take on everything. Everything and anything you have a take on everything you have a take on everything
everything and anything you have a take on for you to not have a podcast would be criminal
yeah so i started it to pat down with me chris and dion and it's going really well the pat down
it's great yeah because i'm a convicted felon i used to get pat down and your name is pat
and my name is pat so as we but it's going great beautiful and I'm enjoying it
I really am
I'm looking to move to Atlanta
ah there you go
yeah I just put a
I just bought
I just put a bid in for a house there
it's on 7 acres
beautiful
how far away from where the clubs are
what clubs are in Atlanta now
where can you work out
Punchline Atlanta Comedy Theater Punchline's back Punchline is back How far away from where the clubs are? What clubs are in Atlanta now? Where can you work out?
Punchline, Atlanta Comedy Theater.
Punchline's back?
Mm-hmm, Punchline is back.
When did it come back?
A while.
Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, Atlanta Comedy Theater.
Laughing Skull's a little spot.
Laughing Skull's.
That's a good spot.
I like that little spot.
I go there all the time.
I love the Laughing Skull.
That's a great little spot, like 90 seats or some shit.
Yeah, I go there a lot when I'm in town but it's not far it's
just right i'm just right outside the perimeter my husband don't like to be close to the neighbors
so he's just like the you know it sounds like my kind of guy yeah he don't he don't like a lot of
people give me some space yeah i just took him you know he only seen me twice since i've been
doing this shit that's hilarious he saw me with kat with Cat Williams, and then he saw me in Indiana,
and he was like,
so this is what you do.
That is hilarious.
I would want to say my husband is shy
when you say that,
and he was like,
you don't give a fuck
what you say to these people.
He said,
the shit you say to these people,
and my audience is mostly white people.
And they just eat it up.
I'm like, well, I'm just being honest.
I'm being me.
I'm not up here trying to be nothing else.
And they know who the fuck I am.
If you know who the fuck Miss Pat is, because I tell this joke.
I tell this story about my special, my Uncle Cecil.
If people read my book, they know what I'm talking about.
Well, my granddaddy, he was special need.
He used to buy him pussy on Saturday to slow down his
seizures during the week.
I'm not
fucking lying. But me and my sister had to go back
there and help him get started.
Because he was special need.
And I tell this
story on stage and people,
last week when I was in Indiana, this girl was like,
is she for real? And other white ladies said,
hell yeah, she's for real. Be quiet.
How did your husband
not know you, though?
Why is that shocking to him?
Because he never really saw me, like,
headline. He only saw me one time over in front
of Cat Williams. He just don't, he won't come.
So everything's starting to take off
and, you know. So he was
curious? No, I just said, hey, dude,
come on and watch what i do and and
he's like y'all stay up too late y'all stay up too late and he's like uh uh you funny he's like
you're pretty funny but you're a little mean up there sometimes like what the fuck i ain't
because you know when i'm telling these stories i'm like oh i don't want to hear i'm not here for
your fucking o's and ahs.
Okay?
And I tell them, I say, if you're feeling sorry for me, write me a check.
We can cry together.
I don't want, I'm not here for you to feel sorry for me.
You know, because I push it.
I mean, I write, I talk about being molested.
I talk about having kids, you know, anything.
I take the darkest shit in my life, and I tell them each and every night.
When I end my set, I say, I want you to take the darkest shit
in your life and find the funny.
Because when you can find the funny, you got control
of it. Why dwell on shit you can't change?
Motherfucker, you can't change the past.
I said, I don't give a fuck if somebody stuck their thumb up your
ass. If he didn't get past the knuckle,
he cheated himself.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
But that's what I say on stage.
And I want people to, my whole thing is I just want people to learn
to take whatever is causing you pain and laugh.
Absolutely.
Because it's healing.
It really is healing.
I could be dwelling on I grew up with a fucked up mama,
the way I grew up and all the stuff that happened to me,
but I choose to laugh at it.
And I want other people.
It worked for me, and I know it'll work for other people
and that's why they should watch your show because that's what you did you really you both figured
out a way to do that you really did you figured out a way to take you and put it in a sitcom
and not have it some say sometimes when they do that it's just it's clunky yeah your shit's not
clunky at all no you. You guys did it.
I can't wait to watch all of them.
I'm excited.
Oh, shit.
Joe Rogan, you coming over to BET Plus?
I'm getting BET Plus.
I heard it's only $10 a month.
Shit.
Joe Rogan is getting BET Plus.
I will definitely get it to watch your show.
Yes.
And do like my husband do.
When he wanted to see Power, he got stalled.
When it went off
He cut it off
That might be the blackest shit
You ever do, Joe
I only have to watch 12 episodes
Until they get picked up
Yeah
So when will you find out?
They said a few weeks?
Probably a couple weeks
After it airs
Hopefully it comes out the gate
Running like a fucking racehorse
Well, we are going to do our best
To get it out there
As fast as possible And get everybody excited about it.
It's funny.
Now, you know if Joe Rogan can come over to BET Plus, everybody can come over.
I think it can transcend.
I really do.
I think it's that good.
I think it's that good.
It's very funny.
And it premieres August 12th, BET Plus.
Go get it, ladies and gentlemen.
It's only $10, you cheap fucks.
You got money.
Come on.
Thank you Yeah
Skip the vitamins
And get BT Plus
Take vitamins too
Skip other things
Oh yeah other shit
Thank you Miss Pat
Thank you Jordan
I love you
Congratulations
You guys nailed it
Beautiful
Bye everybody Thank you.