The Joe Rogan Experience - #1733 - Snoop Dogg
Episode Date: November 12, 2021Snoop Dogg is a rapper, actor, and businessman. Check out "Snoop Dogg Presents: The Algorithm" on 11/12/21. ...
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First of all, it's an honor and a privilege.
An honor and a privilege.
No, it's my privilege and it's my honor.
It's your motivation, Joe.
Very few human beings that have managed to do as many things as you have and to do it as
You you've been relevant for fucking decades man. It's incredible, and I work hard now. I know you do
You do what you know what the thing the key to it all is Joe what everything that I do and everything that I've done
It's been based around fun
So the fun element has always been the key factor.
It has never been money motivated. It's always
been, man, this is fun
to do and I love doing it. And then it was so
fun that it ended up making me fun.
Well,
you've managed to make a career out of
being yourself. Right. That's where
it's amazing. Yeah, but
that's the easiest job everybody got, just to
wake up in the morning and do you. Yeah yeah but so many people have a hard time doing that publicly right because
it's so it's so easy to want to be like something that's out there that feels like it's easier to do
and it's more impressionable and it's an easy follow but when you wake up and do yourself
that's just the the organic thing that you were built with that you know how to do in your sleep.
It's true, but it's hard for people to be themselves publicly.
They try so hard and they think about their image.
They try so hard to cultivate something.
I know because I've been around those kind of people that got to hide.
And then all of a sudden, as soon as the lights go off, then they want to come hang out with you and let their hair down and they start explaining to you how they
can't they can't man i wish i could do what you do you can do whatever you want to do you just
worried about what people are going to say as opposed to the way you feel i don't worry about
what people say as long as i feel good i'm gonna keep doing it it's the way to do it i think by
your example many more people can learn they can figure out a way to live their life
Authentically if you feel good to you must be good for you
What about heroin
You got your own mic.
Joe, I can't prepare.
Quit playing with me, man.
Don't fucking play with me, Joe. I'm prepared today.
Give me a light.
I can use your ashtray?
Sure, of course.
Okay, perfect.
Thank you.
We're family.
Yeah.
Get in there.
Will do.
I'm going to start off light.
I'm going to start off with some flyweight division.
What is this stuff?
This is just some flyweight to get me going.
I like watching the women fight.
division what is this stuff this is just some flyway to get me going you know i like watching the women fight and so you roll it you roll blunts with like do you take a part of swisher sweets
what do you do i used to be a philly blunt guy then i used to be a swisher sweet guy and now i'm
a backwood guy backwards yeah back was one of the little homies tearing me out you know this is a
young man's thing but i hang with all of of the youngsters, and they be pushing it on me.
Hit the backwood, hit the backwood.
I'm like, I ain't smoking that.
And when I finally hit it, I just liked the way it made me feel.
It was like it was a relaxer rather than me going to sleep
or wanting to be too excited.
It was like the perfect match for me, especially at the Asia, man.
And so you just buy the cigar, take it apart, remove the tobacco, you do it all yourself
You just watched me put one together in 37 seconds
That's your thing
And you do know that
I do, I do
I learned how to smoke blunts from Charlie Murphy
That's when I first started smoking blunts
Charlie Murphy was a bad motherfucker
He was a bad motherfucker
When I started smoking blunts with him, I was like, okay, now I get it
I smoked a blunt with him in 1993 on the set of my movie Murder Was the Case.
That's the first movie I ever was in, and he was the bad guy.
Really?
Yeah.
It was the 18 minute movies I did on Death Row Records that went with my first album,
Doggystyle.
It was called Murder Was the Case.
And Charlie was the bad guy.
The shit was hard as fuck
And I loved him so much for just giving me
Off the intro this is my first time acting he was in my movie
And we you know I'm saying hung out smoking children became friends, and I just love the fact that he wasn't like
Trying to big homie me right he was looking at me like you know you a star now You're gonna be a star later, and I'm gonna treat you like I'm gonna treat you now I you're going to be a star later, and I'm going to treat you like, I'm going to treat you now, I'm going to treat you the same way later.
And we always maintained that great relationship.
Charlie was an authentic human being.
He really was.
He was, he's a rare guy who started doing stand-up after he was already famous.
That's a hard thing to do.
Look, I got a story.
Me and Charlie Murphy had a TV show for MTV. It was
like a story about me as a kid.
And it was like cartoon.
So we was on
the call with the MTV
people. This is how he was talking to them.
You motherfucking crackers can't tell me how
to write a motherfucking show? Fuck y'all.
I'm the motherfucking writer of the show.
And if you motherfuckers don't like, matter of fact, I'm off
the phone. And nigga just jumped off the call. It was my first time being on a meeting like that to hear somebody just be fucking real
That shit was encouraging
You know I'm saying it made me want to do that like to be real in
Meetings and not hold my tongue and sit back and let my people do all of the talking
When he drove that meeting and drove that conversation that showed me that the best shit i can do is be me at all times well charlie was a man at all times he was a man like he was a martial artist
he was a legit martial artist like i had some great conversations with him about martial arts
and there was one time that it was me and maury smith who was the former ufc heavyweight champion
and a dude named ivan salivary who was another top flight UFC guy
and Charlie Murphy was holding court
and he was telling people about how they got to respect
the Chicago Ridge Hand
specific type of Ridge Hand that Charlie
was really good at and he was
telling them and it's a legit
technique but it was just funny as shit
seeing Charlie Murphy standing
there holding court there's the
picture of it right there
that's Charlie and of it right there.
That's Charlie and the guy right to his right shoulder,
that's Maurice Smith, who's a former UFC heavyweight champion,
and the guy across that got his hand in front of his mouth,
that's Ivan Salivary.
He stuck.
He believed in the story.
The way he got his hand in his mouth,
that's like a teacher teaching right now.
Well, he just was a powerful figure.
When I found out that he was sick and that he died,
it was, it didn't make sense.
Like, Charlie Murphy is bulletproof.
But he kept working through his sickness.
Yeah.
That's what I commend him for,
that he was still showing up to sets,
being seen, being heard, leaving his legacy so that way we can continue to see him while he was gone.
Yeah.
It's just...
It's sad when we lose people like that man that's yeah
especially a guy like that you just don't think he's gonna get sick like how did he get sick
well you know it's all god's plan though joe you know we we gotta be thankful for the time that we
had with him and we both got personal stories and personal relationships with him so that's all we
can be thankful for is the time that we get with people while they're here that's true i mean we
only have a certain amount of time, no matter what.
It seems like you got forever because you're in it right now.
It doesn't seem like it's going to end.
But it ends for all of us.
And it's hard to keep that in perspective.
But if you could, you'd be better off.
Yeah.
That's what life is all about, living each day.
You only die once, so you should live every day.
Exactly.
I wish I could dress like you you can hold on
i brought you something first of all here's a here's a dev jam chain for you because you know
i'm running things with a dev jam now and i wanted to make sure you was official like a referee
you can't wear the chain without the dev jam jacket oh oh yeah joe got a dev jam jacket oh
they're gonna hate you they're gonna hate you don't. Don't hate him. And then I know, Joe, I know you're a Snoop Dogg fan,
so I got to give you that doggy style on my first album.
Oh, shit.
You got to get that doggy style jacket, too.
Oh, my goodness.
Come on, Joe, man.
Come on, man.
This is Christmas for me.
I got to have you fall out to one of them big UFC fights
and that right there.
Dana White's going to love it when you wear it.
100%.
Dana's going to say, where's mine?
December 11th.
Say that.
That's the next one.
Now, now.
That's what I'm showing up December 11th for the UFC
in Vegas.
Wearing that.
Do know that.
Wearing that.
Well, you know we only
smoke fire, right?
Yes.
Can I play this song
called No Bummer We?
Yes.
Because we only smoke fire.
It's off that new album
Algorithm.
It'll be in stores
November 19th.
Should we get a copy of it to Jamie
so Jamie can put it through?
Can we airdrop it?
You can airdrop it to me.
Right now?
Yep.
What a wonderful world we live in.
I love it.
It should show up
if you just go to airdrop.
Somebody got to help me.
I ain't that smart.
Have you ever airdropped anything?
Yeah, all the time,
but it always get dead from me.
Like, I be like, huh?
Airdrop? Fuck that mean? I'm looking in the air for the to drop you know how to do it joe i don't know how to do it with your smart ass see like you talking all that and you don't
even know how to do it i can do it off my phone me too off the phone is easy yeah i've never
done it off a laptop there you go this man This man is smart. Who is this guy?
Jamie's a professional.
You motherfucker, you?
Yeah, he's on the ball.
Go ahead, Jamie.
He's the GOAT.
Jamie's the GOAT podcast producer.
I'm going to call you Jaime.
Yeah.
You got it now, Jaime?
I think so.
You can play it whenever you want to.
We can chop up some game and get back to it
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Welcome a man.
Smoke a little fire and let it begin.
Ready for a kush shotgun.
But I'm watching niggas don't want to have to plop one.
That's my weed, nigga.
Hit them with the bop gun.
Money talk, drop some.
Don't like it, you can leave it.
California dripping in my low ride.
Hit the switch, bounce, then it go higher.
Def jam, don't give a damn
Rollin' backwoods by the drain
We only smoke fire
Fire, fire, fire
We only smoke fire
We only smoke fire, Joe
Fire, fire, fire
Don't give me no bam or weed
Fire, fire, fire
Don't give me no bam or weed
You know why?
Tell them why.
Because I'm all of the above.
I'm a freak of nature.
I'm Snoopy D.O.D.
Duh, duh, fine, fine.
Why?
Because I'm all of the above.
I'm a freak of nature.
I'm Snoopy D.O.D.
Duh, duh, fine, fine.
You can cut it off, Danny.
That's enough.
They don't even hear all of that.
Just leave.
That was amazing.
That might have been my favorite moment ever on the podcast.
That was amazing.
We only smoke fire, Joe.
Oh, my God.
Yes, sir.
Thank God for you.
You know what people don't know?
Is that when they see me doing all of this calling fights and calling sports and doing all of this, I guess it's called analyst.
Is that what it's called?
Analyst.
Yeah, analyst.
Yeah, when I'm an analyst.
They don't know that I got my start with the show called The Contender, which was a Dana White show,
which was a show where the fighters would come and they would fight to get a contract, so to speak.
And one of the fighters that was on that show was Sugar Shane.
And I see he came out and became a real good fighter.
And I just think about how when I was on there with Uriah Faber
and how we was on there just getting my style together
as far as how to talk when I'm watching a sporting event.
They don't understand that I got my beginnings from the UFC world, man.
Y'all bless me.
It was Sugar Shane.
Yeah.
Sugar Sean, rather.
Sugar Sean O'Malley.
Bad boy.
He's fucking phenomenal.
When you were doing that, didn't that come out of you doing commentary
just for YouTube videos and shit?
Yeah, but the way Dana, he produced it. that didn't that come out of you doing commentary just for like youtube videos and shit yeah but
the way dana he he produced it you know i'm saying like i was just doing like freelance
shit he was like nah hold on come to vegas we're gonna put you on the air you and him and then i
was in there smoking like a motherfucker the first couple of fights it was like hold on
you can't be on the same we got to build you a room off for the set because of the fucking the rules and regulations to fight.
And the smoke got to be in this section over here.
So I was announcing we had our little booth where we had to smoke off of the set and watch the fight.
That's hilarious.
From like the booth.
Because you could legitimately give someone a contact high.
Oh, yeah.
That's what they were saying.
Yeah.
For sure.
But I thought the fighters wouldn't like that.
The fighters probably.
Some of them would. Some, for sure. But I thought the fighters wouldn't like that. The fighters probably, some of them would.
Some of them would.
But yeah, when you were doing it with Uriah Faber,
that was when Sean O'Malley made his big,
that was one of his first big knockouts
that people got a chance to see him, his style.
It was so dope.
You calling his fight, it was part of the fun
of him sort of emerging into the UFC.
That gave me the bug to
be like fuck that you could do this shit dog go yeah no anybody could do it you know if you if
you ever watch fights with a cool friend it's fun always or watch it with your uncle yeah like your
kind of commentary is what most people want to hear they want to hear people talk shit and have
fun right you know right they should have like a regular commentary
And like a shit talking commentary
Yeah like they got the Spanish
When you put subtitles
Yeah
Like we going with the Snoop Dogg version
Yeah because
That's
It's entertaining for people
It's like you're watching it with friends
I'm trying to get some Super Bowl action now
Yeah
I really want to
Yeah because we performing at the Super Bowl
But I want some of that
In the box You want to do commentary for the Super Bowl, but I want some of that in the box
I want to do commentary for the Super Bowl need a little bit of that just a little bit
Just maybe a half a quarter something listen you you sparred. I saw you spar with Daniel Serafian
Yeah, now that motherfucker right there was trying to kill me
You gonna flash back and think I'm some some fighter you was fighting. But I was telling everybody, if Snoop is sparring
with that guy, I go, that is a
legit guy. He's a legit
UFC fighter.
Seraphian's a beast. Man, let me tell you the shit
he used to do with me though, Joe.
He used to make me get on my back and try to
get him off of me. The fuck is
this? And then he got on
his back and I couldn't get a fucking punch
in. I'm like man this
is no fair man but it was teaching me yeah both sides of fighting yeah on your back on top stand
up all of the above but the fact that you're training with like these really legit guys
that to me was very interesting because there's not a lot of people that are like to get in there
with them yeah there's not a lot of people that are like prominent show business people that want to learn how to fight with a guy like daniel
seraphian and you're taking that chance to spar with him and you're filming it that's that's pretty
wild man hey man let me tell you where's khalifa put all that shit in me where's khalifa used to
wear about 140 pounds i used to wear about 160 and we used to be on tour taking our shirts off
and shit and i used to have way more muscles than him we used to be on tour taking our shirts off and shit and I used to have
way more muscles than him we used to be
doing our shit all of a sudden
this motherfucker started working out and then we went
on tour he was like hey man
let's run to the crowd he doing all kind of
athletic shit then he took his shirt off I'm like
fuck I looked at him was like
damn he bigger than me now what the fuck is
going on so I asked him he's like man I'm working at
Unbreakable I'm in the gym every day. So me wanting to be you know, just like he is
I'm can I go in there what got me a membership start working out just training lifting and then the fighting element came to me
I was like
I want to learn how to fight better because I could fight but I want to learn how to fight to protect myself not to
Just beat somebody up but to be defensive in case somebody needs some help did you ever do any martial arts before that only watch movies
really yeah you know as a kid you watch movies and you practice those moves you try shit
we was those kind of kids we would jump off of roofs and jump off of mattresses and all kind
of shit we didn't give a fuck a lot of kids must have learned from movies right
that's all we had imitate people doing kicks and bruce lee movies and chuck norris show let me tell
you this when we was when we watch a movie and we leave the walk-in as soon as the movie go off a
karate movie we looking for somebody to fight and do karate moves on not regular fight but
i can stand out there like this doing all this karate shit.
When do you think that happened?
I think it was like
probably Bruce Lee introduced that.
Bruce Lee,
he was the fucking king.
Yeah.
All his movies,
we definitely wanted to imitate him.
And then the fucking Shaw brothers,
they had some good shit too.
And then it was a couple of classics
like Five Fingers of Death,
Master of the Flying Guillotine.
There's certain movies
that just really hit in the hood
that we really like watching.
It's kind of crazy that one guy
and one particular style of movie
created like a whole way that people wanted to fight.
They wanted to start kicking people.
Before that, it was like fisticuffs.
Now you gotta watch his legs now.
Yeah, they're like one group of people figured it out.
And Bruce Lee made sound effects a part of fighting as well.
Yeah.
Because you would never not do his move without saying, what's up?
Woo.
It's so attractive to people to fight that way.
They like kick each other and shit.
I remember I did that shit.
I thought somebody was doing all Bruce Lee sounds and was getting my ass kicked.
I was trying to figure out why the fuck this shit ain't working for me.
That guy influenced the whole culture.
I got a big ass life, life size statue of Bruce Lee at the front door of my building.
Really?
With his shirt off with the three scratches on his chest like this in rare form.
Oh yeah.
I'm a die hard.
Yeah, he's absolutely the original reason
why I got interested in martial arts.
I lived in an apartment building in Newark, New Jersey.
And one of the kids that lived downstairs from me,
they had gotten into Bruce Lee
and they were telling me about Bruce Lee.
And then we watched a Bruce Lee movie over his house
and I was like, holy shit.
Wasn't that shit like when you, Star Wars, no disrespect.
When Bruce Lee hit the motherfucking silver screen, fuck everything.
Yeah.
Right?
As a kid.
It was wild.
Didn't he make you feel like you could do it?
Like everybody could do it if you could just learn what he knows.
And the way he was calm.
Yeah.
The way he talked.
Don't you see a lot of Snoop Dogg and bruce lee and bruce lee and snoop dogg with the calmness
and the be water and yes just always be water yes yeah yes i am water aquafina. He made kicking people exciting.
I'm telling you.
It's kind of wild.
Kicking wasn't cool in the 70s until Bruce Lee made it official.
Then it was a part of your fight style.
Even the sweep kick was, you would put your hands up and then you would sweep him off his feet.
That move was real famous.
A lot of people got caught slipping like that.
You know what's crazy is the stuff he did in his movies
was not the stuff that he would tell you to do for fighting.
Right.
He wrote a whole book, Jeet Kune Do.
He wrote this whole book of all of his stuff
that he had learned from all these different styles,
putting them all together,
and trying to figure out what's the most useful.
But he wouldn't have done all that crazy fancy shit.
He would have been kicking your knees and kicking your legs.
But I think that's why they didn't like him,
because he was trying to combine all of the styles
and the teachings that he knew,
and then he was presenting those styles
to people outside of the martial arts world.
But they should be thanking him,
because it would have been just a cult classic
as opposed to it being internationally loved and respected.
Now martial arts has grown into a point to where we got the UFC.
We got kickboxing.
We got certain things that, you know, people can, you know, prosper from it and really get off their talents.
Well, when we first started doing it, you had to stick to the style that you were practicing.
Like you couldn't leave your style.
Right.
Like, if you were a Taekwondo guy and then you wanted to learn Muay Thai,
someone would be upset at you.
They'd be like, you don't have to go over there and learn that.
Like, that's not better than what we do.
Well, when I first watched, I fell in love with Hoyce Gracie.
This motherfucker used to come out with a robe on and lay down and kick your ass i'm trying to figure out how the fuck he got
if y'all don't grab this motherfucker by his robe and choke his ass up pull the bottom of his robe
up and take his his uh his little uh string around his rope and tie his ass up with he i used to just
watch him like this motherfucker is amazing then i met him and when and when I met him, I'm like, damn, he's so calm and relaxed.
I guess when you know you can fuck a motherfucker up,
you just sit back and just enjoy life.
Yeah.
I think that robe was a trick in some ways.
It was really smart because by wearing the kimono,
wearing the jujitsu gi, he made people grab him.
Always they would grab him.
And that brought them to him, right?
Exactly.
And his style, you want to be up close and tight in there.
So he would just smother these guys, and they would grab onto it, and they would be in his trap.
And then, boom, he would be on top of them like a spider.
Because him and Shamrock was fucking amazing.
Yeah.
Well, him and shamrock was amazing yeah well him and everybody
was amazing i mean he was the guy that introduced everybody to the idea that you could be a smaller
person with superior technique and win a huge whole no holds barred competition with giant
people so in my in my book he's top five uf time great. Heads fucking down.
It's hard to measure how important he was.
He was so important.
He made us who we are.
It's hard to, like, what he did by showing people that you could win with technique,
not with being big, not with being strong,
but for knowing something that the other people don't know,
change what a martial art was.
All of a sudden, martial art became interesting to really intelligent people.
They wanted to figure out how could someone who's more technical
get over and overpower someone who's much bigger and stronger than them.
But they can, like consistently.
And Royce Gracie showed the whole world that.
He's probably the most important martial arts figure ever
I would have him and Bruce Lee. I would have loved to seen his father fight
Oh my god
Cuz just the way his old man used to come out there with him with the sweatsuit on like you just knew he was
Just a shit like if this my son I wish a motherfucker would
Watch out horse. Let me get this
Yeah, when he would come out with his dad.
That was so gangster to me.
Those moments I remember about UFC that stained my brain.
It was like, this is a brand that's here forever.
When you seen that man come out there with his father,
and then y'all start running down the tradition of what his father meant to Brazilian jiu-jitsu
and how they are the family that you're going to learn about and know about sooner or later.
They're the greatest family in the history of martial arts,
and there's not even a close second.
Okay, hands down. There it is there.
They're the greatest family.
There's no other family that's had an impact like they have.
So was Hoyce the best, Gracie?
No, his brother Hickson was.
What?
Yeah.
And everybody says it. He says it too.
His brother Hickson's a legend
he's been on the podcast a few times just before ufc this was like during the ufc but he was
fighting in japan and just his jiu jitsu like was universally regarded as being the best by
everybody is he hoist big brother yes okay there it, there it is then. Yes. It makes sense. His voice is big. And then Horian's his other brother.
And Horian's elite.
They're all assassins.
Their sons are assassins.
I love it.
Like, you can't be a Gracie son and not be an assassin.
They're all assassins.
Which Gracie would be in the weight class of, my man used to wear the white wig?
Oh, Khabib.
That motherfucker right there any his any his weight
class uh hoyler was close to his weight class but hoyler was a little smaller hoyler was like 145
and he's like when he's fighting at 155 but hoyler was an elite grappler too hoyler won like multiple
world championships like they were they were the whole family.
Hodger Gracie, Henzo Gracie.
My God, what a family.
So Khabib, even if he'd have beat one,
he would have had another one
have been waiting around the corner
waiting on his ass.
It would have been amazing to see Khabib in his prime
versus a guy like Hickson in his prime.
Yes.
Just to see them grapple.
Be fascinating.
So Khabib's undefeated.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, Khabib's undefeated. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Khabib retired undefeated.
That's fucking crazy.
Not just undefeated, but never really in a close fight.
There was no real close fights.
He took on everybody, too.
He didn't run from no fades.
He took on everybody.
He had good fights.
He had good fights where people put up struggle,
but eventually he gets them all.
He gets them all.
So is he top five?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Khabib is, in my opinion, greatest lightweight of all time.
The other argument is BJ Penn and his prime.
BJ Penn and his prime was fantastic.
He was so good.
He was fast.
He'd get up on you.
Oh, my God. BJ Penn, when he was like, if you go back and watch, like, peak BJ Penn, when he was
like, he was just, he had phenomenal power.
He was ruthlessly aggressive.
He had great jujitsu.
Everybody was scared of BJ for a while.
Right.
He would fight anybody.
Who did he take it from?
He took it from somebody.
Well, he beat Matt Hughes.
He wasn't supposed to.
He beat Matt Hughes in his prime.
Right, because Matt was the champ, right?
And he strangled him.
He rocked him.
Yeah, and he strangled him.
And then he held on to him for a while.
Yeah, they had some wars, man.
He was an elite grappler, too.
Just really, really good.
And so it wasn't just his stand-up striking it was his ground game but
it was also that he would fight anybody he was guys but he would get in there and mix it up he
was like a crowd favorite he lost to georges st pierre georges st pierre was just bigger and
bigger and stronger and better and he kind of beat him up. But it was a much, like the difference in size
is pretty evident.
And it just wasn't a good matchup for BJ.
But that's just his George St. Pierre in his prime
was the best of the best.
Right.
One thing about the UFC,
that torch is definitely gonna get passed.
And when it get passed, it's all about
who can hold onto it and hold it the longest.
There's always somebody coming to get your ass.
Always, always, always.
There's some guys that can hold it off until they can retire.
But, you know, if you just stay in it long enough, eventually someone coming up is going to get you.
That's in everything, though.
Even in the music industry, it's always been like that.
It's a young man's game.
That's why I'm surprised i'm still in it well again you're in it because you can
authentically be you and people love you you're like one of the most universally loved people
but it's because what you put out that's what you put out there you put out love and people
love you back hey man put it in the air one time a little bud for the love a little love for the bud
oh i gotta say it the right way you know i'll do it yes sir big snoop dog smoking
live on the air the joe rogan experience austin texas a bus you met you
you ain't never had a guest like that. No. His own motherfucking microphone.
It's just together, man.
I need some alcohol, Joe. Can I get drunk on your show?
Yeah, for sure.
You got some clear.
All that shit over there is brown like me.
I need some clear.
What do you need?
What kind do you like?
I like vodka.
Do we have vodka, Jamie?
No, what you got here?
I'll do what you got.
Fuck it.
Let's break the rules.
Mostly, we have whiskey.
Oh, shit, Joe.
You're fucked up. What's that? That Ricilla's got. Fuck it. Let's break the rules. Mostly, we have whiskey. Oh, shit. We have that wild rice-silla stuff, too, which is dangerous.
What's that?
That rice-silla is clear.
It is.
Oh, that stuff is ruthless, though.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to give that to you.
Oh, thanks.
Appreciate you.
It's ruthless.
Thank you.
It's like turpentine.
You don't like that kind of shit, right?
Hell no.
You like vodka, right?
I'm on some cool shit, some player shit.
You know what I'm talking about?
He said some shit over there that sounded like it was going to turn me inside out.
What's that?
Who was on that bottle?
It was Honey Shine, too.
I don't know.
Let me get some Honey Shine.
What is that?
I don't even know what that is.
Bring that over here.
It look like my face on there.
Honey Shine.
What the fuck is making a bottle of Snoop Dogg?
I don't know what this is.
Maybe some moonshine.
Some moonshine with a dab of honey, huh?
I don't know.
You want to try it?
Yeah, let me get lit.
Let me get lit with you one time, Joe.
There we go.
I don't know what this is.
Me neither, but here's a toast to the boogie, baby.
Salute, sir.
Blessings.
Whoa. That shit strong as a motherfucker. Salute, sir. Blessings.
That shit strong as a motherfucker.
I think it's moonshine.
Shit, this must be some moonshine out the motherfucking Duke boys truck.
Enos must have made this shit.
Shit.
I got you.
Shit.
Moonshine is a thing now.
You can buy moonshine.
It's just hilarious.
You can buy it for real.
I mean, they used to have to bootleg it, right?
I mean, that's how the Kennedys made their money.
For real?
Oh, you mean the daddy name, Pops.
Yeah.
Pop Kennedy.
The Pops.
A lot of people did.
You know, that's where NASCAR came from.
Mm-hmm.
It was created off of that.
Yeah, what do we got here?
We got vodka.
Both vodka.
Both vodka.
Well, this shit you just gave me in here is a motherfucker.
That shit's sitting in my chest like a heater.
I love it.
You want some more of that?
I'm going to do them both.
All right.
And people know that's watching this shit that I don't drink,
but I'm with Joe Rogan, so fuck y'all. Ah.
Mm. Mm. Mm.
Mm, shit.
Felt like I poured a whole bottle of alcohol in my chest.
What do you usually drink?
I drink indigo gin, I drink 19 crimes wine or rose.
You know, I'm a player, Joe.
Drink that shit that's cool.
This kind of shit when i'm with the
boys and we want to act a fool but normally i'm on some player relax shit making sure i'm in control
is that brown brown and brown don't mix are you involved with that 19 crimes wine is that
yeah yeah you know you know the plug was plugged you already know that well no it's good shit man
i buy it you do yes you won't ever have to buy it again.
Well, thank you.
Yeah, we're going to ship a gang of that shit up here.
Thank you.
It's very good.
I bought it before.
Yeah, you know me, Joe.
I'm just trying to diversify my portfolio, you know.
I like it.
Because I felt like, you know, early in my career,
when I was making songs like Gin and Juice,
I felt like Tangeray and Seagrams really made millions and millions of dollars off of me without me knowing what I was doing as far as promoting their brands.
So once I learned the system and figured out that, wow, you could become a marketing and a brand ambassador, and you could also get some equity or either just create your own alcohol brand.
Yeah, people blew up brands for nothing.
They blew up brands and just, you know.
We didn't know nobody, whether it was Gucci, whether it was Nike, Converse, whatever it was.
We did it out of the love of the brand.
And then the brand didn't understand that we were promoting for them.
So they should have just naturally said, hey, here's some money.
Be a brand ambassador.
When we would come to some of these brands, they would say, we don't need you.
You're promoting us anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah. come to some of these brands they would say we don't need you you're promoting us anyway yeah well it's a weird thing to try to realize well it comes with business it's called it's called show business joe so initially when you get in the industry you you're about to show and the
business takes a while to catch up but somebody like me that you know i had to learn the hard way
i had to learn the show and the business fast. That's why it's called show business.
When you learn them both,
you'll be where you're supposed to be.
When did everybody figure that out
with brands and stuff though?
When did people figure out that it's better
to just make your own brand?
Probably when Master P had No Limit Records.
Because No Limit Records was the perfect example
of branding your own artists,
branding your own merchandise, your own movies, your own artists branding your own merchandise your own movies your own shoes your own tater chips master p branded any and
everything that he wanted to and it was all up under him and he showed people how to be independent
and create your own and not have to always go to the system and you know play on the field but be
an actual owner and a real you know decision maker
The business of show business. It's very hard sometimes for artists to think about shit like that
You just want to be free and have fun and talk shit
But then you realize like oh you're helping another organization for no reason, but see that's not
What they teach they don't teach financial literacy don't they don't teach us anything that could help us on a business scale. And that's from athletics to entertainment.
Take, for example, these college football players and basketball players. They don't teach them how
to handle millions of dollars. So when they do get that first contract and they blow their money
or do something crazy with their money, it's not their their fault it's the system's fault for not teaching because if you're going to if you're going to prepare
someone to go to a professional field the first thing you do is teach them
financial literacy and how to you know maintain that not just the ability to be
skillful and make money for the brand would be a part of being the business so
you can make money for yourself because you're branding the brand do they have
any classes on like how to be a professional football player and manage your money do they have any class i
mean if you would think that if they if they have football at a university and it's big for the
university should they have class do they have classes they probably teach the kids what to do
if you start making money i think they do joe but i just don't think it's the awareness of it is actually being promoted or pushed like it should be they push you more of
the get on the field be a star get to the nfl get to the nba as opposed to get in the class learn
what's going to happen with this money so in case you do become successful even after your career is
over you should have a business plan for life after ball. Yeah.
It's hard for people to think about that.
Like when it's gonna end.
Imagine when these, for example,
try a UFC fighter, someone who wins on the contender
and he gets a contract for three fights,
then he gets another three fights,
and now he's got 20, million dollars and then two years later
he has zero yeah because he didn't know how to position it like look at how conor mcgregor took
his ufc and started branding and making money here and there and there and there and there and
there like but he's probably like one of the only ones you don't see a lot you know it's like Tom Brady he's a one-on-one there's only
one-on-one LeBron James he's a one-on-one but that creates an atmosphere to where some can follow
you probably won't be as high as him but you'll be in the same room yeah
those rare humans like that, those one of ones.
Everybody's like, why?
When you see a Conor McGregor,
how the fuck is he so much more interesting?
What's going on? What's going on when someone just blows up
and you just want to see them fight more than anything?
Do you know who Hamzat Shemaev is?
Yes.
That's another guy that everybody's like,
I can't wait to see that motherfucker fight again.
Can he fight again tomorrow? I want to see him fight too can he fight tomorrow i fucking want
to see him too i don't know why but i do want to see he's got it whatever that thing is he's got
it it's that interest to want to learn more about him because he's he's entertainment yeah when he's
like i killed them all after his last fight it was bring them to me i killed them all. After his last fight, he was pregnant to me. I killed them all.
I'm like, whoa.
I'm like, this motherfucker sound like he's in Gladiators and shit.
Dude, he's real.
Yeah.
That's really him, too.
But see, like I say, the best thing you could do is you.
Yeah.
He's having fun doing him right now.
And we're locked in because we don't see too many people doing him but him.
Snoop, the word is he's even better than you've seen.
The word is by people trained with him
They're like dude. He is a fucking freak of nature. He's a freak of nature. He's really smart
He knows what to do. He's got sick timing. He's just like he's got a super genius fight mindset
He watched him fight. He doesn't make any mistakes. He's had I think he's had three or four fights in the UFC
He's only even hit twice.
He's that defensive?
He's just a swarm.
Wow.
He's just a swarm.
One guy knocked out
with one punch
in the first round.
These other guys,
he just gets a hold of
and smashes them.
It's wild.
And there's nothing
you can do
when he gets
his hands on you.
It's wild
and everybody can sense it.
So he's got that thing
about him and he's got that thing about him and he's
got that thing about him just purely from his talent connor has that thing about him because
of his talent and his personality right right and his conversation yeah just when you hear him talk
just to hear somebody from that country talk that just sounds crazy especially when they
talk in that like you know that i'll fucking take his
fucking head off and fucking break these fucking bollocks yeah like that shit just sound like a
fucking movie to me one of them motherfucking uh guy richie movies exactly yeah angry british men
they're the best sounding angry people yes the best sounding angry people for sure. Conor's going to give you a sound bite.
You can believe that.
That's hilarious.
So true.
I mean, and that shit talking just makes it so much more interesting
when it actually comes to the fight.
But that's what we love about sports is that you can talk shit as a fan
and as a person that's actually in the middle of a situation.
Yeah.
And that's what we love about the shit that we do
is that we can talk shit and back it up.
And when the fight is over with, you know, it is what it is.
We got to move on.
Because I like when somebody's talking shit
and then they do the press conference,
they do all that pushing and all that shit,
and then they get in the fight 20 minutes later
and he got his ass kicked.
Yeah.
And then you got to interview him.
He be like, well, you know, I respect him now. You and then you got to interview him he'd be like well
you know i respect him now you know i got respect for him now i love that when somebody earns their
respect do you like doing that thing for a trailer do you like uh doing those uh fight cards
fucking around you know what i like i like being in front of a live fight talking that shit.
And I don't have to fight.
I like that part, you know, because normally, you know, in that environment, you'd be feeling like, man, let me go help the motherfucker that's losing.
But I'd be like, fuck the motherfucker that's losing.
That's what your ass get for coming in there looking like that.
That's like we were saying earlier, like just regular people who watch sports you get a chance to have a regular person you know give it to you the way that you would want
to hear and the way you're probably listening the way you're probably watching it at home
is the way i'm giving it to you when i'm when i'm doing what i'm doing
yeah you're doing it like you would do it if we're hanging out that's what people people like
they like that you know when i'm doing the ufc i we were hanging out. That's what people like. They like that.
When I'm doing the UFC, I have to be very professional.
That's what I'm doing.
It's a more professional thing.
But sometimes we'll do these fight companions where we just get high and get drunk and watch the fights and talk shit.
But when you're with DC, y'all different.
Y'all break the rules.
Y'all be on some other shit.
I love when you're with him.
Because if somebody gets knocked out, you two motherfuckers are jumping up, falling out of y'all's chair or other shit i love when you with him because if somebody get knocked out you two motherfuckers are jumping up falling out of the archer or hitting each other
upside the head or something that he is the nicest guy on earth he is one of the nicest people i've
ever met and he translated transformed into a fucking great announcer amazing he's the shit
amazing announcer amazing but he's also fun he's like fun like he had this little argument with kamaru
usman it was hilarious where he was talking about whether or not uh colby covington took
kamaru down officially because he was saying it's a takedown he's a wrestling expert he was a two-time
olympian so he's like that's a takedown and then so him and kamaru were talking and kamaru was like
well you know i i guess it's uh guess they judged it by how much control.
He didn't establish control.
And DC's like, two.
Two points.
Like, that's a takedown.
Wrestling points.
He was going, dude, that was a takedown.
Wrestling points.
Two points.
But he's so lovable.
So me and him do commentary.
It's like, you know, hanging out.
So me and him do commentary.
It's like, you know, hanging out.
And it's informative, too, because the way you guys inform us on certain shit in the UFC world, you make it fun to listen to.
It's not too complex. Like, a lot of times when you watch sports, they using big-ass words, and you don't know what the fuck they talking about.
Y'all make that shit easy to understand.
Well, DC will break it down so the fighters can actually learn from, like, if they're in this position next time, what are they doing wrong?
Like, he's giving points.
He's like, he should have had his head on the left side.
He should have been driving forward, and that's why he got stuck there.
Like, he's, like, explaining as it's happening. both of you guys are talking to the fighter without him hearing you, telling him what he should be doing and how he got in that move
and how he needs to get his ass out of that move.
He should have his legs around his waist.
He should be trying it, and all of a sudden the shit happened.
It'd be like, damn, did y'all predict this shit?
No, it's like there's certain moves in jiu-jitsu
where you know a guy has to do the next thing in order to finish the guy.
So you see
it coming and you just the problem with those little shows is sometimes like if if dc's yelling
out advice they might be able to hear them oh because it's that close that apex center right
the this you because you did the one with sugar sean o'malley that was at the apex center right
that's that little spot it's intimate you can hear it every day so if you're yelling out advice if
you're daniel cormier and you're saying what the guy needed to do needs to do
right now maybe listen he's listening he's listening he's right there yeah
yeah exactly I mean you're getting it like in real-time advice from an Olympian.
And he's been coaching wrestling his whole life.
I mean, he's still coaching wrestling.
So it's like when you see a guy like that doing commentary.
So here's the elephant in the room.
Which UFC fighter is going to handle Jake Paul?
I don't know.
I mean, for them to be like, to get free from a UFC contract they currently have,
I don't think Dana White is going to do that.
So nobody good enough can beat him that'll come over.
I don't know.
I mean, maybe if they thought they could make a lot of money and there was someone who was like a current UFC fighter
and they could arrange it,
maybe they could make some sort of a joint promotion,
but I just don't see the UFC doing that.
It doesn't have to.
I mean, look, Jake Paul's killing it in boxing.
He is.
It's brilliant shit.
I just don't want him to stand in front of Mike Tyson
and look like that's going to happen if...
That's going to be Logan.
That's the one who fought Floyd.
Let's see, when he whooped Logan,
it's all a domino effect.
Now go get your little brother.
You know this shit.
Come on, Joe.
Quit playing with me, man.
It's Mike Tyson we talking about.
This is not a regular motherfucker.
It's not a regular dude.
And I don't give a fuck if he's 55.
It may trigger his old instincts like
do you know it's still that motherfucker still in there snoop let me tell you a story the reason
why this table's this wide this is true this is a true story when i first moved to austin i had a
smaller table that i was going to set up and i was like maybe i'll be a little more intimate
with the with the guest and then uh i had mike one time, and the first time I had him on,
Mike was not training at all, and he said he can't work out at all
because it'll ignite his ego, and he just smokes a lot of weed.
And we had a great conversation.
It was real fun.
And then he came back on again to promote the Roy Jones fight,
and he was jacked.
He's giant muscles in his forearms and he he looked like he
was ready to go like you could see the element that made him mike tyson in his prime had been
like reignited whatever it was i'm like no i need a wider table i got i was nervous in the room with
him like you could tell he's ready to go i don't a fuck if he's 55. Like 55 in 2021 is not 55 from like 1988.
It's not the same thing.
Them punches gonna still fucking hurt
when they hit your fucking head.
You watch him hit pads?
Have you seen him hit pads with Rafael Cordero?
It's terrifying.
It's fucking terrifying.
Not terrifying because he's 55, fucking terrifying.
That's a terrifying human if he was 21
and he was hitting pads like that i'd be like holy shit this kid's a killer iron mike the fact that
he can still do that at 55 and he's smoking weed joe so he's probably he's probably in his best
condition of his life i bet he's going in there high why Why wouldn't he? Why wouldn't he? I think he said he fought Roy Jones high.
I know for a fact he did.
I believe it.
Why wouldn't he?
He likes it.
Makes him more calm and relaxed.
I walked through everybody's dressing room before the fight
and made sure they had their pep speech for me.
I think he was going to fight Lennox Lewis, too.
There was some talk of that.
Wow.
But I don't know if that's real.
Look at that fucking savage body punch.
Jesus Christ.
The pad, man, got to be heard.
Yeah.
I mean, there's some videos of him, Jamie.
See if you can find a video of him.
Oh, with that speed.
That's recent?
See if you can find one of those videos of him hitting the pads,
because it's fucking horrifying.
See if you can find like one of those videos of him hitting the pads because it's fucking horrifying
It's just amazing that he could still generate that kind of speed and power at 55 years old
See what's gonna hurt is when he that light click on he gonna be like you the motherfucker that beat me
You know, she went to myuckers like Buster Douglas?
Man, in the 80s, when he was in his prime,
it was one of the craziest times ever for boxing,
where fights just became like executions.
Look at the Mike Tyson Snoop dog face.
This shit. Oh, here it is.
So here he is, 55 years old.
I mean, come on, man.
And, you know, you're looking at a lot of these videos.
They're from months and months ago.
And he's still training. So he's only got better yeah he's
getting it back muscle memory right but this is terrifying look at his trainer eyes that
motherfucker look like man you better not hit me mike hold on my face right here his trainer is a
legend yeah gotta be javier cordero's a legend got to be to stand his ass in front of him. Yeah, he's a Muay Thai specialist, but an MMA coach from Shoot the Box.
Hafeel Cordero, he's a legend, and he runs King's MMA.
Oh, that's big.
Yeah, that guy training with Mike Tyson is crazy.
It's fascinating that Mike chose a martial arts guy to do it.
He's got his mind right.
That's letting you know his mental is different. He got his mind right. That's letting you know.
His mental is different.
Dude, he was terrifying.
He's terrifying.
The fact that Logan Paul wants to box him,
it's like, wow.
I can't believe they're really going to do that.
I can.
I'm probably going to be announcing this shit.
Yeah?
What's your prediction?
Second round KO.
Yeah, that kid's going to get hit for sure because floyd was hitting him
yeah floyd was hitting him uh floyd is you know only taking a small amount of time off
and floyd's had those exhibition fights you know his power is nowhere near mike
dyson's power but i was just saying that that Floyd has been pretty active as a boxer.
He fought Pacquiao recently.
Went to Japan and fought.
Yeah, and he fought that Japanese kickboxer guy,
Nazukawa, Tension.
He fought...
He was fighting guys like Conor McGregor
that we knew Floyd was going to beat them.
But he was still active.
Mike hadn't been active forever.
Forever.
He was getting fat for me.
Yeah, he got real fat.
He went vegan for a while.
Yeah, he's, you know, that's a different kind of person.
Shit, Mike in shape now.
He look good as a motherfucker right now.
He looks chiseled his mind
is right he got some good weed got his body together i'm like yeah that's the mike i like
yeah it's going to be interesting it's going to be interesting to see
what what logan can do to keep away from him well i'm betting on mike all my money yeah it just
the only thing you would have on logan's side is youth youth that's it you don't
sit your young ass down somewhere yeah that's the level of skills like so many magnitudes different
i guess that's why it's it's wild one more song for you would i put it in an airdrop
did you get it?
Did you get it, Jamie?
No.
What I got to do, highlight it and then put it in there?
Yeah, drag it, drag it, drag it, drop it on top of it.
Okay, what about that?
Yeah, this is an anthem for me and you right now.
You got some lean out in to blaze that shit up.
Come on.
In the morning.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like my weed.
I like my weed, my weed.
In the noontime.
I like my weed.
In the evening. I like my weed In the evening, rollin' in the evening
I like my weed When I go to sleep at night
The world gettin' sicker every day I feel like it's about to end
I've been through this life I I'm trying to separate the really for real And pretend I'm not what I was
All these niggas always look crazy
Every day your mother lose a baby
And every day your baby lose a mama
And we all go to Instagram for drama
I like my weed
Said I like my weed
In the morning
I like my weed in the morning Like it in the morning I like my weed
For all the weed smokers out there
November 19th
I like my weed
This single is out right now
Jane Hancock
Off of that album with my friend Jeff James
Talk to him Jane
When I go to sleep at night
Blaze that shit up, what you waiting on?
Dreams of me living lavish
Gotta do great, I can't do average
I'm well established
You got some weed and gone and passed it
Different fabric
You'll be surprised who really acted
When it's what?
When them lights, camera flashing
I ain't gossiping with these birds, I'm on other shit Niggas can't talk to me, stupid When it's what? Come on.
Why?
That's right. I can write these songs in my sleep I told myself that it'd be over if I had self-esteem And now I got it I'm freestylin' but my style ain't for free
Just think about it
I do this for the ones in the hood that will never leave it
You can see this product from Richmond
Can't believe it
Long guess it's good, gon' do what you wanna
My mom and dad know
So I ain't scared to smoke my marijuana again
All the weed smokers out there
Smoke it in the morning
If you on your lunch break
Smoke it on your lunch break
Get your smoke on real quick
Go in the bathroom
Or sit in your car
I like, I like, I like
When my thoughts come down
I smoke
Yeah I smoke.
Jane Hancock.
Off of that Algorithm album.
November 19th on Def Jam.
Live and exclusive on the Joe Rogan Experience.
You bitch you.
Can I ask you how you create a song?
Like how, when you're putting something like that together,
do you write it out on paper? Do you just say it until you remember it?
Like Jay-Z apparently doesn't write anything, right?
Right.
He just keeps it all in his head.
Do you do that?
Do you write it?
When I first started out, my first album, Doggystyle,
I got two songs where I just freestyle.
One is called Jeeves and Hustlers,
and one is called The Shiznit.
Those two songs, I just went in there and just freestyle
whatever came out of my mind and my head at the day. I've been good at that
for a long time, but a lot of times I like to make sure that I'm pinpointing a specific
topic, a specific cadence, and a specific style that I'm trying to perfect when I'm
making a song. I'm not just trying to make a record for the day. I'm trying
to make something that's going to be here tomorrow and the next day and the next year.
So when you said you freestyle it, you mean like when you walked in, you really didn't
know what you were going to sing when you were recording it?
Well, the song, the Shiznit was supposed to be a mic check. I was supposed to go in there
and just check the mic. Mic check, one, two, mic check, and Dre put the beat on.
Mic check, check, one, two, one, two.
Hopping, stopping, hopping like a rabbit.
When I take the knee in the rocks, you know I gots to have it.
I stay back in the cut, retain myself.
I'm thinking about the shit, and I'm thinking,
well, how can I makes my grip?
And how can i make that straight
slip said trip gotta get him for his grip as i dip around the corner now i'm on another mission
wishing upon a star it's snoop doggie dog with the caviar in the back of the limo no demo for
sister real i'm breaking down like evander holyfield chill to the next episode i make money
and i really don't love hoes to tell you the
truth i swoop in the coop i used to love man come on man that was all a freestyle just going in that
just spit from the dome and it just came out and dr dre just made it wow made it work
but every song is different you know because sometimes a song would come to me
from just like hearing some shit or
just being out somewhere and be like, damn, I want to make a song about whatever I just
went through or whatever I'm going through or whatever.
It's the moment.
It's always a different experience every time we make a song.
So sometimes it's something that you actually write out?
A lot of times.
The song Murder was the case i wrote that song um because i was
thinking about life after death the song was initially called dave d-a-v-e death after
visualizing eternity whoa and it was crazy that i was thinking of shit like that, and I had made a song called Murder Was the Case
that was about me losing my life.
But before I lost my life, I did a cut a deal with the devil,
but then God came back and gave me another chance.
That was in my mind, but when I wrote it,
it just became some gangster shit,
but that was the premise behind it.
And it was just in my head, like, I want to write a song like this.
And then three months later,
I caught a murder case in real life.
Yes, so my pen was actually writing reality.
So I had to pull back from certain things and say,
maybe I should start writing about life and living
instead of always writing about dying and death.
Whoa. Deep. and living instead of always writing about dying and death whoa deep just think about my peers me Tupac me like just think about our records the last
records that they made it was a lot of death it has some life in it too but a
lot of death in it yeah that east coast west coast it became a real
a real divide in the country with hip-hop right yeah it was because you didn't want to be on the
wrong side and you didn't want to like like for example if you had friends right that was leaning
more towards the east coast and you had a friend that really wanted to hear West Coast music,
y'all might have ended your friendship based off of that.
Really?
It was that serious.
Yeah.
How did it, it went, it kind of isn't that way anymore though, right?
Mm-mm.
What it was.
That's good.
Isn't that like a good sign for the future?
That's a great sign.
There's people working together from all parts of the world.
Because like in the 90s, that was a real problem. That's a great sign. There's people working together from all parts of the world. Cause like in the 90s, that was a real problem.
That was a real divide.
The divide was the, we couldn't control
the media like we can now.
So even back then, East Coast and West Coast
used to hang with each other and kick it
and love each other.
But we didn't control the media platform
so we couldn't, we didn't have an Instagram or Facebook
and none of that shit where we can slap up a picture
of me and Nas and Jay-Z and this person hanging out.
We didn't have that.
All you had was the media saying,
the East Coast and the West Coast don't like each other.
Which side you choosing?
Yeah.
And that's just that.
Yeah.
And it's their job just to sell newspapers right and then once lives were lost and you could
blame you can naturally say tupac okay did somebody have something to do with that from
the east coast we don't know biggie he got killed on the west coast that puts speculation that maybe
somebody from the west coast has something to do with it so it just kept fueling to the fire until you had people like uh puffy myself
steve harvey who were man enough to say look we need to put an end to this and let people know
that we don't advocate that we really love each other we're a family and we started building
bridges and started doing things together and being seen together and controlling our own
narrative as far as what we was putting in the public side.
I'm glad that it ended because it showed that that's possible, that real disputes.
I mean, think about the dispute in this country between just the Democrats and the Republicans.
Like, what the fuck?
I thought we were all supposed to be American.
It's like we split it down to two sides of a country.
And it seems like it's a similar thing. And I hope we could get over it the same way
East Coast, West Coast rappers got over it.
Because that's real progress.
One thing about the world we live in right now, Joe,
look at me and you.
Look at how we're doing this right now.
You know how many people we're bringing together?
By me and you sitting right here chopping it up, talking.
We're making peace right now.
I hope so. I know so. I hope so. together by me and you sitting right here chopping it up talking we're making peace right now i hope
so i know so i hope so i know so because it's it's a ton of motherfuckers that i know that fuck
with you that love you that suggested that i do your show and i've been telling you that anyway
you know i'm saying i've been through all of my people whether it was burke kreischer whether it
was whoever the fuck has always been like joe what's happening when i'm gonna come on your show
i always be at what's happening joe when i going to come on your show? I always be like, what's happening, Joe?
When am I going to come on your show?
I just never wanted to bother you.
Fuck all that.
I didn't want to hear that shit.
You're going to drop that soft-ass comment,
I never wanted to bother you.
I never wanted to bother you.
Every time I see you, don't I bother you?
Listen, man, you're one of the guys that I get legit nervous around.
Come on, man.
I've been a fan of yours for so long, I get nervous that you talk to me.
Remember when Burt called you that night when we was doing the Go Big show?
Yes.
What did I say?
What's happening, Joe?
Can I do the podcast?
Listen, you can do the podcast anytime you want.
I just didn't want to bother you.
But people on my team suggested, like, well, you know, we pushing the album and all that
shit definitely for press and promotions.
But on top of that, they was like, man, Joe Rogan is the motherfucker.
Do you know him?
I'm like, what?
Let me text you and see what's happening real quick.
So I had to pull out my Rolodex and text you.
And you was like, hey, man, this is the wrong number.
Hit me from the other number.
Then you called me.
I'm like, look, Joe, fuck that shit.
I got to come see you, man.
Let's make it official, man.
I love you and I love what you do.
So we just need to stand by each other and support what we do.
This is what it's about.
When I was on FaceTime with you, this is how you transcend generations.
I was on FaceTime with you at my dinner table.
And I have a daughter who has a dog named Snoop.
And somehow or another, my 13-year-old thought I was talking to the dog.
And I'm like, what's up snoop and then uh i turn and i show her the facetime she goes holy shit it's snoop dog for
real my daughter's never done that holy shit it's snoop dog for real she said that like she's been saying that shit for years
that shit came out too slick it was hilarious come on man we family that's amazing i just i
just met the dog in real life yeah which y'all don't know me and the dog just bonded he's a
little cutie isn't he yeah man he fuck with me that's my nephew man you understand me i'm the
dog father you know when the dog see me you have 20 dogs, when a dog see me. You have 20 dogs? Yeah. When a dog see me, Joe, this is naturally what happens.
I don't give a fuck if it's the meanest, toughest dog.
Either he come over to me and he rub me or he lay on his back or he just sit down and just pee.
Because he'd be so happy he'd just start peeing.
He'd be like, damn, that's Snoop Dogg.
You're a real dog man
You're saying it with your own two eyes
I saw it
You can't fake that
The way you came up
To that little dog
And then he was like
Like frozen
And you started petting him
And he started giving in to you
And he posed for the picture
Come on now Joe
Who does that?
Yeah
Who the fuck does that?
For him it's like meeting
Like a mythical god
You've heard like your namesake
Your namesake is a man
who raps. He's in movies.
Imagine you're a dog. You're trying to figure this out.
Who am I named after?
You've named after Snoop
D-O-double-G, the real.
The motherfucking dog father? The dog father.
And when he see me, he say,
that smell like
the dog father.
Shriveling timbers. Exit stage left. It smell like the dog father. Shriveling timbers.
Exit stage left.
It must be the dog father.
I must run up.
Imagine if he tried to explain to his friends that he met the real Snoop Dogg,
they'd be like, shut the fuck up.
You lying.
I'm telling you.
How the fuck you meet Snoop Dogg?
I'll shut your little ass down somewhere.
You ain't meeting no motherfucking Snoop Dogg.
I met him, dog.
I'm telling you.
Motherfucker was scratching my back and everything. Don't you think you have some sort of a telepathic relationship with dogs, I'm telling you. The motherfucker was scratching my back and everything.
Don't you think you have some sort of a telepathic relationship with dogs?
I think I do.
I think that's what my previous life, I think that's what I was.
If you have a good dog, though, a good connection with your dog,
I think everybody has a telepathic connection with their dog.
You probably especially love dogs, and they can sense that right away.
Just like you can sense a person who's a loving person right away. they can sense that right away just like you
can sense a person who's a loving person right away right dogs can sense that too
and you're obviously a loving a dog person you'd love that dog I can tell
man I go up to the meanest toughest dogs Joe yeah and I break them like that's my
thing to break a dog like he he's mean he doesn't I'm not the whisper what his
name is Caesar the little dog whisper. I ain't him
I'm like a different version of that like it could be a real mean tough dog and I'll be like
Let me go talk to him now walking back in the living room sit he said he's never sat like that before I
Know what did you do to him?
Don't worry about all that
What did you do to him?
Don't worry about all that.
I've always been pretty good with dogs, but some dogs are just, you can't take a chance with them.
The big ones?
Yeah, there's like, not even some of the big ones.
There's some medium-sized ones that are real sketchy.
If they're not trained right, like Belgian Malinois.
Oh, yeah.
That's not a big dog.
No, I'm talking about American dogs.
All that European shit,
I don't do all that. Those are the,
they're called meat missiles.
Yeah, you got to talk
to them in a different language.
I don't speak that shit.
And you see those things,
you're like,
you're basically a wolf.
Exactly.
That's basically a little wolf.
Right.
And they use them
for service, duty.
They're always used overseas.
That's the dog of choice those
motherfuckers can walk on tightropes have you ever seen that snoop no i haven't they walk tightropes
for real yeah for real yeah they have like two tightropes and the dog puts one paw on each one
and he walks in this tightrope they go over obstacle courses they can jump like 20 feet in
the air they're like missiles you know what my mission was when I used to go overseas?
Was to break the mouth.
Look at this.
Watch this video.
Look at this fucking dog.
This is how smart they are.
Look at this obstacle course this dog's running.
Watch this.
Oh, that's hard.
This is crazy.
This is how smart they are and how driven they are.
This dog has a course to run. He knows the course. He's walking on ropes, hopping from object to object. The fact that a dog can be trained to do this and follow these instructions this clearly, like he knows exactly where to go and he's doing all this crazy shit. Like, look, he's on a fucking tightrope again.
where to go and he's doing all this crazy shit like look he's on a fucking tightrope again and you don't have to talk to him you don't have to tell him
what to do he knows what to do is it this guy giving him instruction the dog
just doing it Jamie okay he's giving him instructions that's gangster right there
look at that he's making the dog walk on his fucking front legs. That's crazy.
Go, go, hurry up.
The fact that you could teach a dog to do this,
that is not a normal dog.
That dog must have immense problem-solving drive.
Like prey drive.
And that's what makes a good hunter.
That's why they're so scary. He can go get a rat.
Exactly. Or a person.
That dog will go get a person.
This nigga can't walk on a ladder.
Yeah, he's walking up a ladder
and going down a slide.
Come on, cuz.
Come on, cuz.
On the roof?
He's on the roof.
And he went up there to get the ball.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
And for his reward,
he gets a ball.
Wow.
Dude, that's... That's what she said. She wanted some balls for her reward he gets a ball. Wow. Dude, that's...
That's what she said, she wanted some balls for her reward.
You know what's interesting?
It's like, that's cool to watch.
It's cool to watch a dog that can do that.
It's amazing.
But why does a dog have that kind of problem solving ability?
Why?
To kill things.
Right.
That's why.
That's right.
That's why it's so good at that.
It's why it's also so hard to control.
They want to kill things. Go find him. Go find him. That's why it's so good at that. It's why it's also so hard to control. Go find him.
Go find him.
Exactly.
They just want to hunt.
You're going to get found with that motherfucker looking for you.
That's not a big dog either.
That's kind of a scary animal because it's like a 60-pound thing that will take out men.
They look like a German Shepherd, damn it.
They look similar, but they're smaller.
They're actually, well, I don't know for the most part.
I'm not a Belgian Malinois expert
But I believe they're smaller. I'm tell you what my mission was look at this Snoop look at this
Look at this dog. Oh, he got too much look at that look at that. Look how fucking high jumps I
Mean how high is he that's like 20 feet in the air what the fuck?
How does an animal jump 20 feet in the air?
What the fuck?
How does an animal jump 20 feet in the air?
These things are fucking ferocious, man.
And they're so athletic.
Like, look at this dog leap.
It's climbing a fucking wall.
Climbs a fucking wall.
Jumps off of his owner's back and climbs like 20 feet up a fucking wall and scrambles to the top.
I mean, what the hell, man?
Imagine if you're on top of that thing and you're like, I'm safe up here.
Shit, this is like 20 feet.
And you see that thing running up the hill?
Look at that with its mouth open.
Why can it do that?
It can do that in place of killing things.
Right.
Because it needs stimulation, like hunt-type stimulation.
It needs something to initiate that prey drive over and over again.
So if you can get it to chase a ball or run or grab a walk across a tightrope,
it'll do that.
What it really wants to do is kill shit.
Right.
It wants to go kill shit.
That's a little wolf.
That's a pacifier right now. Yeah.
That's a fucking wolf.
Damn, damn, damn. Damn, damn, damn.
Damn, damn, damn.
Look, my mission back in the days when I used to go overseas was to break that motherfucking beagle.
Because that beagle used to be waiting on us when we'd come through the airport.
It smelled like that good dope.
Oh.
And that motherfucker comes standing right next to a motherfucker.
And when he's standing next to you, they call you out the line and run through all your bags.
So I had to figure out how to break this motherfucker.
I took a little class on bagels.
So next time I went overseas,
a little motherfucker pulled up on me,
and he looked at me, and he was like...
And I gave him a little signal.
He said, no, not him.
And he went and stood next to another motherfucker.
And that was a beautiful thing, and I learned how to break the bagel
Y'all hit me up if y'all wanna learn how to break that bigger when y'all go overseas
Cuz that motherfuckers ferocious he gonna smell some old dope on you
He's gonna take you in that back room and a little bitty black dog watch out now
Yeah, if you go overseas they have totally different rules if you get arrested with weed in like Singapore you're in real fucking trouble
How about one country you can't even smell like weed really you can't even have it in your system. What country is that Norway?
Really?
Norway zero tolerance
Norway for weed yes
That seems absurd they seem like when I think of Norway I think like open-minded logical people. They have the women and the people
Zero tolerance in
So it's completely illegal. I
Went over there motherfuckers had a concert as soon as I got offstage
We're on a tour bus and my tour bus driver driving,
and he just pulled over to the side of the road.
We're like, what the fuck he pull over for?
Two police officers in a little-ass car get on the bus
and come right to me and say, you need to come with us.
I'm like, huh? You need to come with us.
So the car is so little, can't nobody ride with me.
So I got to ride with them to the police station,
and they tell me, either you're going to give us some blood
or you're going to pee in the cup.
But we need to see if you got any drugs in your system.
So I pee in the cup, do the show,
come back like maybe six months later.
This time when I come back, they like,
they pull me and my cousin
over on the side of the road
and just draw down on us.
Like, you under arrest.
I'm like, damn, I just got here.
You had a dirty test last time you was here.
You under arrest.
Put me in the car,
arrest me,
take me down to the station,
make me pee in the cup again,
and then ask for a picture and let me go.
Whoa.
Imagine how dramatically shocked I was.
I needed to smoke one after that.
What country was that?
Norway.
Norway?
Really?
I would have never imagined
they would be so hardcore.
Oh, yeah.
I would imagine Norway
would be pretty like,
you know,
I think of all those people I think of like Holland. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I would imagine Norway would be pretty, like, you know, it's like, I think of all those people, I think
of, like, Holland.
Yeah, uh,
Netherlands. I know they're not close to each other,
but I'm an ignorant American. Netherlands is
lovely. You don't have no problems over there.
They don't even got,
look, they can pull these cars
so little.
Somebody was following this paparazzi,
and we stopped to take a picture and then all of a
sudden the dude rolled by on the bike and my driver hit him with on the bike boom and he didn't get
hurt but he he laid all out in front of the van like he was fucked up so then my security was like
hey man you gotta move we gotta go you ain that hurt. Get your ass out the street.
Yeah.
So the dude got up, and then my security pushed him.
And when he pushed him, the police was coming.
Police pulled up in a car about this big, and my security is like 6'9", 450 pounds.
So they looked at my security, and the police said, okay, you drive yourself to the police station
and we're going to follow y'all because you can't fit in our car.
So we had to drive him to the police station to write up a little report
on him pushing the lady, and then they let him go.
So there's no crime over there.
There's no police cars.
The police didn't even have a gun.
We could have just drove off if we wanted to.
It was so funny to us that we had to drive ourselves to jail.
We just did this shit.
Like, fuck it.
Come on.
Let's go.
What country is the easiest to smoke weed in?
Amsterdam.
That's the easiest, right?
Yes, sir.
Well, they're kind of, it's part of the tourism industry.
It really is.
The coffee shops.
Yeah.
We used to be the tourism industry of Vancouver.
Vancouver was the shit.
Right?
Before the pandemic.
It was the shit.
Yeah, particularly before the pandemic.
The BC, they had that BC.
I mean, their whole economy is in some way based on weed.
Gotta be.
I mean, there's so much weed that came out of that part of the country.
There was that documentary, The Union.
Mm-hmm. so much weed that came out of that part of the country there was that um the documentary the union and um it's all about that all about the the underbelly of like things that finance businesses
and stuff in that area it's people growing weed man my first movie was shot in vancouver really
i had to stay out there for like five or six months it's called jimmy bones and i was getting
so much good weed out there.
I lived out there.
It was so good.
It was like, you know, when you're shooting a movie,
you can fly back home.
I'm like, shit, I didn't even fly home.
I just stayed out there.
That shit was good.
And this was like 1999.
And I don't even think it was,
it wasn't federally legal,
but we're still getting that shit.
Yeah, they're totally legal now.
The whole country of Canada is legal.
It's like they make good choices and bad choices.
But the whole country is completely, marijuana is completely legal.
And they give you free health care.
Yeah.
I mean, somebody's got to pay for it, right?
But yeah, it's free.
That's 100% something that we need to figure out how to do in
the country like america as big as it is let's figure that out and i think we could do it through
selling weed right that's what i think right make weed legal federally and put a percentage of the
tax that goes straight to health care we have everybody covered quick because if weed was legal
nationwide well look in denver colorado what they did when they started they took some of their taxes We'd have everybody covered quick. If weed was legal nationwide.
Well, look, in Denver, Colorado, what they did when they started,
they took some of their taxes and put it towards education.
That's a good move. Which was a great move.
And then the crime rate went down.
The education is going up.
And then Denver, Colorado finances just grew the whole state.
The whole situation has grown.
Do you think that they should legalize everything, all drugs?
Well, I said let's start with cannabis first.
I don't think all until you figure out what's the benefits, what's the health benefits.
We found the health benefits to marijuana, so that's why I feel like we should roll with that first
until we find what the other ones mean and can do to help.
Then we move into those because marijuana marijuana been fighting for a long time used to be the outcast yeah you know used to always be the outcast that you smoke weed you you're a bad person you this
you that now it's like shit you finding out that some of the greatest motherfuckers in the world
couldn't move without weed so are we bad yeah we just gets a bad? Yeah, weed just gets a bad rap.
Right.
We got a bad rap.
People didn't really know what it does.
And they kept making all those bad movies
about it fucking you up
as opposed to the Cheech and Chong movies
showing you how much fun you can have
off of that shit.
Yeah, well, it has such a long history
of propaganda against it.
What was the first movie they made talking about it?
Reefer Madness.
Yeah, that black and white movie.
Yeah, there was a few of those, though.
There was Marijuana Girl, Reefer Madness.
I have a bunch of vintage posters from these movies.
How do they feel now?
They're just framed, framed posters.
It's just you look look at like what they were
selling back then right calling it you know i told you though remember the media is controlled by
whoever's in control yeah whatever they pushing they made it very scary for parents and then
but at the same time what they didn't know was when you put that kind of shit out you make kids
want to do the shit right exactly you didn't deter nobody you made motherfuckers want to go try yeah exactly you tell people they don't
have the access to something they're not allowed to do something they want to do
it so bad boy boy do we boy do we don't like people telling us what the fuck to
do especially when it comes to something like weed and you know people could say
that weed is you know weed makes you lazy or weed is bad for you
or weed is like no life life provides you with all sorts of challenges and if you're lazy and
weed comes along we just found you when you're lazy you're not lazy you smoke weed all the time
you're constantly involved in shit somebody put up an instagram post god damn i wish i remember
who it is but
it was like all these obscure things that you're constantly doing you're always doing something you
never stop you're doing that won't stop yeah you're doing won't stop so so much shit the many
faces of snoop dole i love it everything is fine jo I'm having fun. That's what it looks like. That's what it looks like.
You seem like, in a world where people become increasingly tense,
you seem like a person who's more relaxed and has more fun every year.
And I get to teach people, too.
That's like, I'm at the point in my career now
where I got a lot of information and wisdom and guidance,
and I can give this to the young up and coming,
and I love that part of the industry that
I can actually give you some information as opposed to me just having fun for me but actually
having fun is an example for you 100 because we imitate our atmosphere if we see someone who's
tense and angry and that's who we who like a goes and has no love and he's just hard and cold and that's that's who we admire or we see someone who's just
having a great time with a smile on his face dancing around moving just feeling
it I want people to smile when I walk in the room yes when you see me I want
smiles and hugs I don't want grabbing your purse locking your doors yeah you know what i'm saying
i used to be that i used to be that guy when i pulled up you know people looked the other way
locking their doors you know now it's like hugs kisses can i have a picture i love you
my kids love you all that great and i love it because that's who i am i come in with a smile i come
in being yes life of the party i don't come in this motherfucker sad or mad i come in happy upbeat
yeah no you come in with all love you can feel it that's a fun dude that's how i was raised yo you
know that's beautiful you get it from up top you know the people that raise you are the reason you
are who you are so here's my point you are completely connected to marijuana you're one of the nicest people alive there's a
connection obviously right why the fuck do people demonize marijuana when it's capable of creating
a snoop dog they just gotta have an open mind jo know how it is. Like, people had bad things to say about alcohol until you understood that it could, you know, really set the mold.
It could really help conversations.
It could really do what it's supposed to do.
So until we actually, you know, understand what it does, we're going to always have skepticism and people are going to have opinions about it.
But those who do it know what it means.
We're one nation under a bud.
We all move together. You know what I means we one nation under a bud we all move
together you know i'm saying yeah yeah it's united though right when you find people that smoke don't
y'all just have such a great time yeah it's easier to have a great time if y'all smoke i think uh
people smoke are just a a little more uh when they're high they're a little more compassionate
look i'm gonna give you a story man we. We was doing the fucking Justin Bieber roast,
and I'm sitting next to Martha Stewart.
Shout out to Tony Hinchcliffe.
Right, he's my motherfucker.
I love that.
He's my motherfucker.
So we're doing that, and Martha's sitting right next to me.
I know her, but I don't know her like that.
I've done her show before, but I don't really know her like that.
So I'm smoking like I am right now.
I'm probably on like blunt number 17.
She catching all the secondhand smoke.
She fucked up by now.
So my boy Jeff Ross, he like, fuck this shit, Snoop.
You sitting way over there.
I need to hit something with you.
All right, cool.
Next commercial break, me and Jeff Ross go in a motherfucking potter port,
a little potty thing that they got.
You know, one dude was being European me and Jeff
when that motherfucking blew a whole motherfucking blunt to the head it came back out and it was the
funniest shit ever man like and then me and Martha Stewart became friends and started doing business
out of that so this motherfucking marijuana yeah there's a beautiful culmination of relationships
because who would have thought that that day would have spawned all of the shit that me and martha stewart has done
yeah since then so much shit and it's fun to see me and her together right oh it's very fun it's a
it's it's a cross-generational cross-cultural love fest yeah but it don't feel like it's forced right
no not at all.
No, it's perfect.
But who would have thought?
Who would have thought, Joe?
Come on now.
Yeah, who would have thought?
Come on, man.
Snoop and Martha?
Yeah, I know.
Now this shit just sound like, hey, it's Snoop and Martha.
Exactly.
Try this shit on seven years ago.
What the fuck is you talking about Snoop and Martha?
I know, right?
It's amazing.
But that's the world we live in.
That's why I say say if that can happen,
imagine how many people would hurt
are Democrats and Republicans.
Same with me.
But when we're together, that shit don't matter.
Yeah.
You get what I'm saying?
Certain times when you get together,
you can break all of the politics
and just make it be about love and people.
A hundred percent.
And that's what it should be about.
When you're around people
and you just communicate eye to eye face to face with people
That's who a real person is this idea of communication through
The internet through social media and all the shit that people are doing it just creates so much conflict
It's so unnecessary in so many ways the way people communicate with each other. It's like people get off on like
Insulting each other and like if like people get off on insulting each other.
If you were right in front of a person, you would never talk like that, right?
It would be rude.
You would feel they're being upset.
You would pull back.
You'd feel bad that you said it that way.
That's how people are supposed to talk.
Supposed to take cues off the people that you're talking to.
Right.
And this is a great time, and it's also a confusing time so much crazy shit
is going on in the world but it's also a time where when things get really like tumultuous
and all fucked up and chaotic people can be forced to make new plans and to work through
things better that's what i'm hoping i'm hoping culturally we come out of this on the other side
with a better understanding of how we can function as a society.
I think we're going to adapt to our environment
because even when I see my grandkids, right?
I got six grandkids, and all of my grandkids are mixed,
meaning that they have an African-American background.
Some of them have a Caucasian background.
Some of them have a Latino background.
Some of them have a Colombian background.
But they're mixed, and they love me, and I love them.
And we're putting a new love in the world, and I see a lot of mixed couples and mixed babies,
and they don't have nothing but love for people.
And if the world is moving in that direction with my grandkids
and just kids in general, because kids are the purest people in the world.
And when they're young and they're kids, they just know how to love,
and it's all about them learning what you teach them.
So if they're learning on their own now,
and they're learning how to communicate and network,
and they're spreading love, we ain't got to worry about nothing.
Because the generation that we're living in now, they know how to love each other.
They're certainly learning.
And I think having a guy like you around that has that message is great for everybody.
It's great for everybody.
It's great for young people to see a guy who's successful and loved and is friendly and loving and wants people to just have a good
fucking time that's your thing i mean if anybody wanted to connect anything to what is snoop dog
all about snoop dog is all about having a good fucking time everything all your videos everything
you do all your songs you're having a good fucking time that's what that's what you promote and it makes people feel good. It's like you're you're in
You're an engine of fun times
You know, that's what you've been doing your whole life. Man. That's a love thing. I had the pleasure of
Talking with James Brown for like three hours one night Wow
Just like me and you sitting at the table right here
Holy shit just to get the information and then I'm looking at him in his face,
the whole conversation is just like,
he like, you know, Snoopy,
and he talking to me, and I'm like,
I'm in this motherfucker with James Brown, cuz.
Right, like you can't believe it's real.
But the things that he was saying to me,
this is like years ago.
I'm seeing them right now.
It's like for someone to have that vision of you being what you're supposed to be,
being all of that person that God made you.
James seen this version of Snoop Dogg like 20 years ago,
and he was telling me how this is what you need to be doing,
this is what you're going to be doing,
and this is how you're going to change the world,
and you're going to be the most loved, and you're going to change the world and you're going to be the most loved and you're going to be this because at that time
i wasn't loved as much and i wasn't on the favorable side i was still coming out of negative
energy so he was just blessing me with the strength of knowing that i guess he felt like i was about
to do what he was doing because now i feel like i'm the hardest working man in show business and
he was always the hardest working man in show business and he had to pass it to somebody like me that could run on when he went home it's hard to it's hard to
like really clearly you'd have to live in the time of james brown in his prime to understand there
was nothing like him before him
Like when James Brown did that concert in Zaire before Muhammad Ali fought there Wow
dude That is one of the wildest concerts James Brown in Zaire
Just dancing
Moving and the power and the way like there was no one like him before him
We've all seen people that were influenced by the early greats
When it comes to a guy like James Brown, you got to go back to like a hoist Gracie type deal
Mm-hmm
You look at hit me like 101 one just emerges just some lightness and then a lot of other people kind of like they might
Imitate styles and they might be influenced by.
But when a guy just pops out of nowhere, get up, get on up.
I mean, come on.
Come on.
Live session.
You know, the big payback.
Now.
Look at him.
Look at him up there.
And when he was in his fucking prime, he was just a ball of energy,
and look at the way he would fucking dance while he was singing.
I mean, nobody does this.
Jamie, back that up just from the very beginning.
Who the fuck comes out and does a show like this?
This is how he goes on stage,
takes his jacket off,
and starts moving, spinning, drops to a split.
How about the mic moving by itself?
I'm going to let the mic do what the fuck it do while I drop down and hit this split.
Look at him.
I mean, this is James Brown in Zaire before a Muhammad Ali fight.
This was when
Ali fought Foreman, right?
Right, Rumble in the Jungle. It was Foreman.
George Clinton said
he came to James Brown one night
after a concert and said, James,
hit one of them splits for me. And he said,
James hit 16 in a row.
And he looked at George and said, now you hit one.
And George left.
He said, that nigga hit 16 in a row, and he looked at George and said, now you hit one, and George left. He said, that nigga hit 16 in a row?
Can you imagine him doing 16 of those back-to-back?
Locker, locker, locker.
That was part of what he did, man.
He was a dynamo.
Like, it's hard to.
Look at his hair, man.
He got his chest out, man.
A onesie on with no drawers.
Come on, man.
So you can't overstate it.
You can't wear no drawers doing splits like that.
Yeah.
I mean, he had to have special pants.
Look at him.
Look at James' chest out records and tapes.
He was like an athlete that also was an amazing singer.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, it was like when you would watch him dance, that's athletic moves.
That's my button, cardio.
Oh, for sure.
And he's singing.
And there's no lip syncing back then. He's athletic moves. That's cardio. Oh, for sure. And he's singing. And there's no lip syncing back then. He's singing.
The track wasn't playing and him singing on top of it.
That was all him right here, right now.
All him. All him right there.
They didn't have that kind of technology back then.
That was James Brown being James Brown.
There's those guys
that pop out out of nowhere that are one
of ones. Hey, the funk
made the funk move on shout out
to my boy dj warren g just had a birthday a couple of days ago warren g is responsible for snoop dogg
getting his record deal is it really yeah warren g was the one who took my music to dr dre he was
always the voice and the producer behind the scenes making a lot of hit records on the chronic album
he also produced regulate wrote regulate made a lot of hit records for the Chronic album. He also produced Regulate, wrote Regulate,
made a lot of hit records for himself.
And his first album was like a three million seller.
And you know what I'm saying?
I helped him with one song on there and Corrupt helped him with a song
and he went and knocked that shit out the park.
And you know, it's beautiful
when you got people that look out for you,
that speak up for you to get you in the game
and then turn around and then they become successful.
That's the beauty of this game.
That is a beautiful thing.
And it also creates a camaraderie,
and they'll do it to the people that are coming up
that they recognize as well.
Yeah.
It's, like, we were talking about the East Coast, West Coast thing.
The fact that it was resolved and now is, I mean,
would you say it's nonexistent?
It does not exist.
Nonexistent. I just, I i'm on dev jam records right i'm a creative consultant executive and just to let you know that
it don't exist no more i'm going to announce on your show that i just signed benny the butcher
and he is one of the hardest rappers about a buffalo new york so that's showing that there
is no more beautiful
lines to be crossed we are doing what we're supposed to be doing benny the butcher the
butcher's coming that's a legitimately good sign like uh for for culture that that things have
gotten better if you think about the the stuff that's gotten better climate change not really
the environment sort of you know marijuana laws yeah sort of kind of yeah
but that is one thing they could say yeah they figured that out yeah we got it right we got it
right and we love each other and there's a lot of east coast rappers who live on the west coast
you know why because no politicians were involved in those transactions right it was just us
right and it was like why are we doing this stupid shit it don't add up it didn't make any sense i
mean how many fucking rappers are there's so many people that want to hear hip-hop there's plenty
for everybody we're better when we're together absolutely and that happened a lot a lot of times
like we did tours together where artists were going to roll together we did one big tour in Australia. It was like a super fest. It was me, The Game, Fat Joe, Nelly, Busta Rhymes, Bow Wow, Sierra.
It was a few others out there too, but it was just so much that I just named
that was sold for so many different parts of the world, and we were Australia and I swear to you we bonded and became brothers and to this day to this day we
love each other and we talk about that experience that we had in Australia where we all became one
beautiful hip-hop is beautiful man that is beautiful it's 50 years old this year is it really yeah 50 years old hip
hop i remember when i first heard sugar hill gang i was in uh jamaica plain which is like a
it's a like a it's on the outskirts of boston and i was in i guess i was in eighth grade because it
was before high school and we were in the cafeteria and some dude
had it was a it wasn't a good
school and a lot of kids were like
barely hanging on at the beginning of the year
you'd have kids that were like I was in
you know I guess I was in
8th grade and you'd have kids
that were 17 in 8th grade
like no bullshit like there was
a kid who was fully grown I was like why is he here
and he was there For a couple days
And you could see him
Like shaking his head
In the back of the room
And he would drop out
And he would leave
So it wasn't a good school
But you heard
Sugar Hill Gang
But I was in the
Fucking cafeteria
And I heard a hip hop
A hippity to the hippity
Hip hop
And I was like
What is that
This is a new
Kind of music
That shit used to be
I love that
It was a new
Kind of music
It was so good That everybody in the hood learned every word to that song.
Of course.
And that's, you know, no videos, no Instagram, no YouTube, Word.
You just learned it because it was that fucking good.
It spread.
Why?
It spread by word of mouth.
And if you didn't know it, you were uncool.
Yeah.
If that shit came on and you didn't know
it man the record companies had some power back then huh they made you they could decide they
could decide who they could push through you know how much rock music did i know
because i grew up in the 80s like journey Journey and Fleetwood Mac and motherfucking The Eagles.
Just all kind of groups that you wouldn't expect me to know because that's all we had prior to hip hop.
Because hip hop wasn't on the radio like that because it was new.
We're not going to let that shit be on the radio.
We're going to put all, I want to know what love is.
All this shit.
I want you to show me.
Wow.
I remember listening to NWA for the first time
on a treadmill.
The first time I heard NWA,
I'm not bullshitting that.
I went to the gym and I had to do my workout
and I put a,
I don't know if it was a CD or a cassette.
I think it was a CD.
And I put it on and because someone told me to get dude you got to get this this shits
wild and I was running on a treadmill and I was like whoa I was like this is
okay and it was sonically together right the sound right oh my god it was amazing
dr. Dre wraps are amazing Dre made you feel like he was watching a movie when you listen to that ice cubes lyrics it was like hard my god that was uh my introduction to like
hardcore gangster rap and then i got involved i really got into the ghetto boys oh i was a
giant ghetto boys fan he's another dude willie d is another dude when I'm around him where I kind of like, I kind of fanboy.
And he's so cool, man.
He's the coolest.
Right?
He's the coolest.
He's so cool.
But I was listening to them while I was delivering newspapers.
I was delivering newspapers out of my car, throwing newspapers out the window, listening
to the Ghetto Boys.
And to like, to hang out with him.
I've had like, I've eaten dinner with his family.
I'm like, I can't believe I'm really here. mr scarface yeah he's got a podcast he does now with
scarface yeah yeah it's really good it's really good look willie's a smart motherfucker and he's
really he he looks at things from all sorts of different angles he'll look at things from the
side he'll look at things he got wisdom too he's not a young man so you know when you when you got that information and that knowledge you know you got a different perspective and that
fucking dude can box oh yeah i seen that he can box did he knock meli mel out yeah but i mean he
could really box he showed me one of his amateur fights and i watched uh like him move around like
they thought meli mel was gonna win you know because meli mel came in there with muscles and
you know it's not like willie d didn. It's not like Willie D didn't.
It's not like he didn't have muscles.
No, but Melly Mel just ripped.
I understand.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, when you perspective, it's optics.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Optics show that.
The UFC.
Right.
Right?
That was Kimo and Hoyce Gracie.
Right.
Kimo was gigantic.
Remember?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
But that's the same thing.
But for real,
Willie can fight.
Like he can really box.
Like I've seen him move around.
I've seen him tag some dude
and light him up.
And I was like,
whoa.
Like a professional boxer.
If somebody said to me,
like hey,
there's a guy coming up.
He's out of Houston, Texas.
He's a bad motherfucker.
Keep an eye on him.
And I watched that video
and I'm like,
whoa.
That dude's scary.
But that's Willie. The rapper the rapper why that's what's crazy
right here he's fucking good man he hit that motherfucker so hard he almost
fear yeah dude this is the Melly Mel fight but there's another one that he
had sent me that I don't even think it might not even be online so I can't put it online we don't we don't want to punish many male male email
with no that's the og his mind to see this no no but the specter og Mellie's
not about him it's about the the skill Willie right he's a really he can really
he can really box like if he want if he had decided to he would he could have
been a professional boxer, legitimately.
I feel like that about Wiz Khalifa.
Like, when I first met Wiz,
I was like, I could beat Wiz up easy.
Now, Wiz will beat my ass.
Because he know all kind of jiu-jitsu
and kicks and all kind of shit, so...
Well, he really got into hitting Muay Thai pads.
Man, Wiz is a bad motherfucker.
He's a beast.
And I'm so so proud of him
and he know as his uncle that that you know he inspires me like and i need that in my life i need
you know people like him to inspire me to want to keep living and want to keep being healthy
yeah well he has even been talking about having an mma fight i don't think he gonna do bad i think
he gonna be all right i bet he'll be off as long as he's going to do bad. I think he's going to be all right. I bet he'll be all right.
As long as he's matched up well, he'll do fine.
Find some celebrity talking shit.
Let's match him up.
Start him off with a celebrity.
Fuck that.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Who would you get?
Who do you think you could lure into your trap?
Yeah, who can you get?
I'm not boasting.
Like, Wiz can actually fight.
Like, you watch Wiz kick the pads and watch Wiz hit some things.
I don't know if this is an older one.
This is real old.
This is an old one.
Way more bigger than that.
Yeah, this is old.
See if you can find one that's more recent.
Wiz is like, God damn it, I just started.
Joe, did you see that kick I did?
When I did a high-ass kick in my gym one time with my trainer, Ernie.
Yeah?
I know you're going to find that.
Find that Snoop Dogg.
Shogun kick.
So how often are you training?
Well, I'm getting back on now.
I do five days a week.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I do.
Do you have someone that trains you?
Do you work out by yourself?
Right here, my man Ernie.
You don't know Ernie?
He got that kick coming. ain't the kick up in there
this looks like yeah he's only uh holding mitts oh is this you
flying sidekick come on joe i hear you that's on the first time that's what i ain't practicing
he just told me when you jump put your leg this way and do that.
This is just muscle memory on knowing how to be athletic.
Just learning how to do something like that
is great for your brain anyway,
because it's hard to do.
Because I used to always watch karate movies
and be like, I wish I could jump.
He said, you wanna learn how to do that?
I said, yeah.
He said, all you gotta do is run and put this leg back.
I said, like that?
I said, do it in slow motion.
You know, somebody pulled that off in a UFC fight.
I seen that.
It was Fabrizio
Verdum versus Travis Brown.
Fabrizio Verdum opened the fight.
He ran out and did a flying
sidekick to Travis' face.
And goodnight, Irene. No, he
survived it, but he got beat up afterwards.
But this was crazy. Oh, wow. Yeah, just back it up again. Damn. Right from. No, he survived it, but he got beat up afterwards. But this was crazy.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, just back it up again.
Damn.
Right from the beginning, he comes running out.
Watch this.
Boom.
Oh.
Flying sidekick to the face.
I just said it.
That's how you get shit kicked off.
That's how you get shit kicked off.
I mean, that is crazy.
That's literally how you get shit kicked off.
The thing about it is no one would expect that from Fabricio
because he's a jiu-jitsu expert.
That was hard.
He must have watched my motherfucking video.
Fabricio, stop watching me.
Fabricio was a UFC champ.
Yes, sir.
He's a fucking beast.
His jiu-jitsu is off the charts.
He's one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.
You look at what he's done.
That guy tapped out.
Cain Velasquez, Fedor Milianenko.
Who else did he tap out?
He's tapped out a bunch of, like, super legit guys.
Wow.
Yeah.
So he's a one.
Yeah.
Who else did he tap out?
He's tapped out quite a few guys.
Oh, Brandon Vera. Oh, Brandon Vera.
He dominated
Brandon Vera.
He had like,
there was a bunch
of fights
where Fabricio,
when he was in his prime,
was just dominating people.
Joe,
I got a couple
questions for you.
What's your favorite
cereal of all time?
Maybe Captain Crunch.
Me too.
Yeah.
But,
very or regular?
um I think regular
Barry's cool too
I'm not mad if you got Barry
you know
isn't there a peanut butter Captain Crunch too?
yeah they got that too
I think I would always go for that
I'm a peanut butter fiend
I like peanut butter
what's your favorite cartoon of all time?
Oh, man.
I guess Bugs Bunny.
Bugs Bunny?
Yeah, because I grew up with that.
What's up, Doc?
When I was a kid, Bugs Bunny was full action.
A lot of shit was happening.
People were getting shot in the face.
I like the rabbit kicked the bucket.
The rabbit kicked the bucket. The rabbit kicked the bucket.
The rabbit kicked the bucket.
I mean, there was a hunter that was
always literally trying to kill Bugs Bunny
and he was so clever that he was
relaxed around this rabbit. Was that Yosemite Sam?
No, that was
Elmer Fudd. Elmer Fudd was
trying to kill him? Elmer Fudd was the hunter. Yeah.
Yosemite Sam was like,
I think he was a miner or some shit. Wasn't he? Elmer Fudd was the hunter. Yeah. Yosemite Sam was like, I think he was a miner or some shit.
Wasn't he?
Elmer Fudd was the dumb motherfucker.
He was the gun guy.
Yeah, he always gets shot in his own goddamn face.
His face would be covered in powder, in gun powder.
It's rabbit season.
Do you know that that's what the gun community calls people that only buy guns for hunting?
They call them Fuds for real yeah
because the gun community is filled with gun dorks and they only respect you if you're like
super hardcore knowledgeable about gun shit like velocity and what is a six trajectory worth
anything yeah yeah like which what do you hunt elk with 300 wind mag and like they have like
how many grains of fucking is your bullets?
And so when people don't care about that,
when people are only into guns for hunting
and they're not into, like, all the specifics
and they're not into, like, you know,
pistol fucking competitions and shit,
they call them FUDs.
Elmer's nephews.
Yeah, because it's like the Second Amendment is divided, just like everything is divided. There's people that want the guns just for hunting Elmer's nephews Yeah The fuds The second amendment Is divided
Just like everything
Is divided
There's people that
Want the guns
Just for hunting
And there's people
That want the guns
For personal protection
Right
So it's like
Everything else
Even in the
World of guns
People turn on each other
They call each other names
What'd you expect
They're a bunch of fuds
These fucking losers
Over there
That only want guns for meat.
And that's the National Rifle?
Yeah.
Well, they're just trying to, I mean, I get what they're trying to do.
They feel like there's a not-so-hidden agenda where people want to take away the right of regular people to have guns.
And what they're saying is you got to look at all the countries where that happens.
It's never good for the population, right?
It's just not it's just not no you got to be able to protect yourself
You got to be able to protect yourself. You can't you can't count on the police to be there all the time
Oh, not in our neighborhood fuck all that exactly in the hood
We would to shit keep guns in our motherfucking hands
Well, you know killer Mike had a lot of good conversations with Bernie Sanders about that. Oh, yeah.
Mike is sharp.
He's very sharp.
And Bernie Sanders
is obviously very anti-gun.
You know,
Bernie would want to
enact gun,
you know,
some sort of
sweeping gun regulations.
But the reality
of the access,
the amount of guns
that are available,
there's no fucking way
you're going to keep guns
away from people
that are willing
to break the law.
There's no way.
They're a useful tool and there's too many of them so the only solution is let anybody have a gun right let you let let people have access if they can prove to be uh
yeah they're they're mentally competent they can you know and what does he that even mean because
you could have a doctor who's just
an anti-gun activist who decides they're going to say everyone's crazy and no one can have a license
you can manipulate that but the thing is like it sounds wrong but it ultimately this is what
our founding fathers thought you gotta let people be free to make the choices they want to make
and if you don't do that you're're going to fuck it up for everybody.
We've got to figure out what's right and what's wrong.
If it's wrong for everybody to have a gun, we have to figure out a way to make people safe.
And it's not going to be through law enforcement.
There's going to be a way where, where as a community we have to figure out
how to come together like if you're gonna go to house to house and take everybody's guns
you can't do that in america it's too late you maybe could have done that like the way they did
it to australia right like australia in the 1990s they took away everybody's guns after they had a
mass shooting but there's too many guns in america so So the strategy has got to be let's get everybody at least try to get everybody to be more polite and kind to each other.
More responsible.
More responsible with your weapons.
Not like seek out division.
No.
You know, not enforce division.
Have it for protection if needed.
Yeah.
Walks off and carry a big stick.
That's usually what I do.
We just need the whole country on a slight drip of ecstasy.
Just a subtle micro-dose drip.
You know?
The feeling that people have when they're all just filled with love,
they don't want any problems.
And have some ADM music playing in the background yeah not overwhelming
just like you're on the outside of a festival you're out by where the the We got Marshmello followed by David Guetta.
Make it fun.
Yeah.
Make it exciting.
Make it exciting.
What's the biggest crowd you've ever performed in front of?
Live Aid.
How big was that?
Probably like, like three, 400,000.
Jesus. In London. Yeah,000, 400,000. Jesus.
Yeah.
Woo!
Yes, sir.
300,000 or 400,000 human beings.
Yeah, Live Aid in London.
Holy shit.
What does that feel like?
You know what?
When I'm on stage, I'm in the zone.
So I'm like, I pay attention to them, but I lock into me.
Right.
Meaning that I become somebody else,
so I'm always engaged with them,
but I'm so into what I'm doing at that time,
I can't look at all them people,
because that shit will throw me off.
Right.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
It seems like it gets, the larger the crowds get, That shit would have thrown me off. Right. Yeah, I know what you mean.
It seems like it gets, the larger the crowds get,
it gets to almost like it stabilizes,
where there's the same feeling.
10,000 is the same feeling as 20,000, right?
500. Look at the size of that crowd, though.
Oh, I couldn't handle that.
That's so big.
That's Live Aid. This is Live aid in london wow 2005. oh my god that's charlie wilson from the gab band up there with me this crowd if you're just listening this crowd is like man
i want to see a vision of the crowd again trying to find a good one yeah right there right there
I want to see a vision of the crowd again.
Yeah, I'm trying to find a good one.
Yeah, right there, right there.
This crowd is like eight football fields long.
And it's so big.
It's so big.
It's so big it doesn't even make sense.
And this is 2005.
Did they have any kind of monitors where the people could watch that were in the way, way, way back?
Or are they just hearing it?
That's a good question.
Because it doesn't look like they've got any behind them, but that's just visuals.
So they have to use binoculars and shit.
Jamie, go right back for a couple seconds.
Look at that one dude with the golf shirt, with the tan golf shirt,
on the left side of the screen.
He's like, what the fuck am I doing here?
That bald dad looking dude. And he's like, Jesus Christesus christ what is this i didn't pay for this it's getting on that argument right now with his girlfriend he's like what the am i doing
with my life look at his face look at the old school selfie though yeah old school you have
to put a camera in front of your own face look how crazy this is this is the biggest crowd I've ever seen what's the biggest crowd that moat no
when be real was on and he was telling us about what was it Woodstock the net
that second Woodstock they did yeah in 1999 that was like half a million
remember that he showed the pictures of that
Glastonbury was good too I did big is that? I did that with the gorillas.
Pull that up.
Glastonbury.
Life of the Plastic Beach.
Did the gorillas,
did they have their
animation going on
in the back?
Yep.
Oh my God.
Is that it?
Holy fuck.
Oh my God.
Snoop Dogg.
Pyramids.
Oh my God.
Look at that.
Snoop Dogg had been
on one, Joe.
Oh my God.
I'd be forgetting
about this shit, Joe,
because it's like Michael Jordan. He didn't get to watch his highlights until he was finished with his career. I've been on one, Joe. Oh, my God. I'd be forgetting about this shit, Joe, because it's like Michael Jordan.
He didn't get to watch his highlights until he was finished with his career.
I still got some more games to play, so it's kind of hard to watch these highlights.
But back up and watch that.
Back up and watch.
Let me see that again.
A little bit before that.
Right there.
That's it.
Play it from there.
What the fuck, dude?
What the fuck?
That shit don't even look real.
It looks like 10 football fields long.
But see, if you notice, see how calm I am up there?
I'm not letting that make me so...
I'm staying in pocket.
You do have a diamond-encrusted apparatus around your microphone that says Snoop Dogg on it.
That gives you a little confidence.
Fuck Thanos.
My motherfucking... Go back into piano play. Hold on. Let you a little confidence. Fuck Thanos. My motherfucking, go back to the piano player.
Fuck, hold on.
Let me see that thing.
Fuck Thanos.
Look at that.
Fuck Thanos' glove.
Look at, what would you even call that?
A mic cover?
Like when you buy that shit from your jeweler.
How do you order one of those?
That's a part of my microphone.
That's hilarious.
Like you can just sit the microphone down and all that shit is one thing.
Who made that for you?
A jeweler?
Yeah, King Ice.
And I put my hands around it like a ring.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
So they can see me from everywhere.
See my piano player?
Yes.
He more into it than anybody.
Oh, yeah.
Look at him.
That is the craziest crowd I've ever seen.
That and, like I said, would be real footage.
That was 2,000 Kim right here.
I did Glass and Berry by myself, but I did one with the Gorillaz.
How old were you when you hit?
1991.
I was 20.
20.
How hard was it to just maintain your sanity while you were
becoming insanely famous it was slow it wasn't fast it wasn't fast because the
attention was on dr. train we was just like mmm pieces around him because he
was leaving in WA right so he was the one getting most of the attention until
the music came out and then people heard me and was like, you know, attracted to my voice and my style, which made us do my record.
And then from there, then you can start feeling the success because now I'm on my own.
It's my own record.
It's not his record.
It's mine.
Right.
I got to do press.
I got to do TV.
I got to do interviews.
I got to do shows.
So it became like, damn, this shit is a job yeah but in
sense out of uh I mean you you were like a protege right yeah that's amazing to be able to be a young
rapper and have Dr. Dre as like a mentor from the beginning stages from shaping and molding
from Dr. Dre, DOC warren g to all the people that
helped me you know yeah and us as fans yeah that's how we took it in as a as a fan i was like oh okay
this guy is in with dr dre so this must be like similar like at least similar quality similar
mindset similar artistic level when someone groups get together and support like that and it really
didn't happen in rock and roll that happened more in the hip-hop community than anything
hip-hop artists would do uh guest spots on each other's albums regularly like that's not that
common in rock and roll like that was way more a hip-hop thing. Yeah, because we love each other.
Yeah.
That's why I say the East Coast, West Coast shit wasn't really real.
Because if you check facts, artists was doing shit with each other before, during, and after.
Yes.
Yeah, it's just unfortunate that it became a narrative.
And then, like, young guys coming up probably thought they wanted to support that narrative to ensure their position in the social chain.
I don't think that narrative will ever pop up again because it was the worst of the worst.
And now people loving the way it feels now to where all of our influences are a part of everything, meaning that there's a lot of West Coast influence in the East.
There's a lot of East Coast influence in the West and the South and likewise.
It's like we all complement each other now.
That's what it should be for everybody with everything we do.
And as comedians, we're really lucky that that never happened.
It never became an East Coast, West Coast thing.
We would joke around about guys from the cellar or guys from the comedy store or whatever,
but everybody, when they met each other, it was all hugs and love,
and everybody's happy that there's someone out there doing it.
There's not a whole lot of us.
When it comes to stand-up comedians, there's not that many of us overall in the world.
So to not be supportive of each other is fucking stupid.
To not be supportive of the up and coming ones is horrible.
That's like suicidal.
Yeah, because it's y'all's sport and y'all.
Exactly.
Y'all the motherfucking stars of the sport,
so y'all gotta keep the spirit alive.
And you get a chance to set what you're doing.
You get a chance to set the standard
for how young guys coming up and young girls coming up
can see someone who's like cool and friendly
and lives like a wonderful existence where like you you have managed to navigate the waters
of like being a very famous person in the most masterful way like everyone loves you man it's
there's something about that the choices you've made and the way you've gotten to where you've gotten and who you
are now. There's so much hope for young people, like in terms of like the ability to achieve
a state of mind where everywhere you go, it's smiles and hugs, smiles and hugs. Like that's
what Snoop Dogg has figured out. That's what you figured out you figured out to get to a state where most of your existence is smiles and hugs that's love and that's beautiful
you said that because I get all that from my mama you know I'm saying I was touched by an angel I
had an angel for a mother and that's what she taught me she taught me real love and I'm just
an example of what she wanted me to be so I love hearing that that's
beautiful I really love hearing that because this is all that she wanted me to be and this is all
I'm gonna be that's all you should be why be anything else it's awesome why we were so lucky
you know we're lucky that we get to live in this strange world we're lucky that we get to be in a job that lets you be free.
I mean, you showed up with a boombox plan.
I kind of want you to play that video that we just shot.
I'll play anything you want.
You just let me know.
It's a video.
He can pull it up.
But for the folks at home, Snoop is the first person ever to show up in the studio
with a boombox, blaring his own music.
Blaring his own music.
Just smooth.
Slid it in on you one time.
Wearing a silk gypsy bandana.
Promotions.
Beautiful jewelry.
It was like if I ever wanted to meet Snoop Dogg, it was the best way ever to meet him.
Because people might not know. you and i have chatted
on the phone real quick but this is the first time we've met matt right up close and personal
yeah and hung out and we shared a room together yes yes full of smoke and drink here's one more
toast to the boogie joe yes sir salute my brother
this is the group with me ice cube too, Too Short, and E-40.
We're called Mount Westmore.
Yes.
This was the first single off of the Algorithm album.
It's called Big Subwoofer.
Where we going, dog?
Shit, we're going to go to Planet Snoopeter where the bitches is blue, man.
Snoopeter?
Man, why Snoopy Dog always get to fly?
I'm the flyest motherfucker in here, though.
Hey, you a shooter, man.
No, I'm the shooter.
I say we just get the fuck up out of here.
Y'all ready?
Let's do it.
Let's go. Let's go.
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I can walk and shoot gum at the same time
I ain't on hiatus, I ain't missing an action
I'm the center of attention, bitch, the main attraction
When I enter the turf, when I pull up
People gather round me like an ice cream truck
People always ask me what I do for a living
I wear many hats, I'm something like Liz
I love liquor and sex, booty and breasts
A couple stretch marks and cellulite on her flesh.
She got her lids open like a field goal pile.
Booty softer than the King Hawaiian roll.
Uh-oh.
Bitch.
Booty softer than the King Hawaiian roll.
You know about them soft Hawaiian rolls?
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What's up? Candy apple paint dripping classic green Everybody eatin', you can ask the team
Fast and mean, speakers bumpin', tags is clean
Keep me somethin' to smoke on, bad bitch to poke on
Bass hit like a earthquake, you niggas hold on
I hit the block and roll on
My bitch got ass like two 18s
Her favorite two-short song is in those jeans
Shake it, baby, if you like this song
Do a nasty dance every time they turn it on
It's got more bass than baseball
She down on her knees, she want a facial
I gotta give her what she want
Turn it up loud and let that shit bump
Everybody love to fall, fall, slumpin' in the trunk
You in the backseat wishin' you was in the front
She said somethin', askin' if I heard
But bitch, I can't hear one motherfuckin' word Bitch! Big sub, whippin' in the front she said something actually if i heard but bitch i can't hear one motherfucking
word bitch
big subwoofer it's out right now what y'all waiting on y'all better go get it
big subwoofer big titty hooker cocaine cooker rooftop looker looked out and saw TJ hooker jumped off the roof
like super fly snooker you know me I'm up in it like a booger then I treat the
bitch like some dice and I shook up I heard this youngin screaming like a woman
yelling that they coming nigga we ain't running it's a new day still got the AK
if these bitches want to take it back to 88. Turn the music down, before we lockin' horns.
Keep the party goin', it's a false alarm.
Big Sub Woofer in the bag like, what's a photo when the left brain?
It's a party when the boss is on.
Yes, sir.
Get out of the rhythm, I'm in stores November 19th.
Big Sub Woofer out right now, you understand me?
Ice Cube has such distinct lyrics.
Right?
He's so crisp.
Always.
Yeah, everything has like a pop at the end of it, you know?
He's always been so distinct.
That's my OG, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
That was the guy before me that I always gonna hold a special place in my, you know, top five.
Always.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
in my you know top five always oh for sure yeah now when when he came out there was a there's a there was a angry edge to the way he would rap that was infectious right it was great if you
were on the treadmill hey it was great if you was on if you was on the track selling that dope i'm
sure inspiration inspiration yeah music can be inspirational as fuck.
Music is almost like a drug.
It really is.
If you can sell the feeling that you get.
Like if a really good song comes on, the feeling that you get out of that,
you're like, oh, shit.
If you could get that out of a drug, you would definitely take it.
Matter of fact, I wasn't even thinking when you was talking about the East Coast,
West Coast thing.
Murder music, find that.
I just dropped that yesterday.
That is going to show you where hip-hop is at right now.
That song is also on the Algorithm album.
I know it sounds like a false plug, but the shit, watch when you see it.
It's going to show you where we at right now with hip-hop.
Turn that up.
We up in this motherfucker. On some murder, murder. Kill, kill shit. show you where we at right now with hip-hop. Turn that up.
They need to butcher Jada against them Busta Rhymes. When they wipe they prints off the hammers I'm really like that I ain't just write this shit for the camera I did it in my city What Michael Vick did in Atlanta
Cash saved for insurance
Them bad days was a forest
Still hood
Roach clips in the ashtrays of my foreign
In LA
R&B bitch drunk with her hands around me
The night Swiss introduced me to Nas at a Grammy party
When my strip introduced me to hard
I had grams around me
A star player never asked for the bar
They just playing around me
Niggas heard I took a shot They was asking if I was good I looked the shooter right in his eyes Introduced me to hard, I had grams around me. A star player never asked for the bar, they just playing around me.
Niggas heard I took a shot, they was asking if I was good.
I looked the shooter right in his eyes when that trigger got pulled.
Murder music, murder music, murder music, murder music.
Yeah, murder music, murder music, murder music.
Some come through the water, Some come through the border.
Some of them get caught, but that's depending on the porter.
Old niggas hiding.
Young niggas sliding.
I'm being a man, just protecting and providing.
My only concern is if it cook right.
My chain yellow, way the diamonds set up.
It make it look white.
Kill you for nothing, cause they petty.
Cutting the dog food with the fetty.
They young, but they ready. No crowd, I get my applaud off the beat I'm a boss so I make sure all of us eat Say a couple funerals will bring a war to a cease
And remember, it ain't no reward for the streets This is not normal, dicky suits is how we dress formal
Where I'm riding is tracks like a porno Alright then, what's up then?
I'm busting every controlled substance
I touched it, I know it's disgusting
I'm just stacking
Call me El Guapo
And I bet you never had a brick from El Chapo
Tuesday, I just play the crib and make tacos
A lot of niggas frontin' like they nice but they not though
Y'all spoke that up, now soak that up
They done pulled my coat, nigga, the goat got up
What's up?
Murder music
These is three elite East Coast rappers right here, man
It's 2021
Come on, Busta Rhymes, kill this shit.
Murder music.
Yo, I only got time to murder shit.
I bang them while deafening both ears.
When I'm making niggas black and rip couches and throw chairs.
At times I be unleashing a raft of most fear.
I don't discriminate.
I even body close peers.
See, I'm suggesting most you niggas should get this step into the rear.
And fuck what most you niggas are taught, I don't care
If you don't rep it right, you shouldn't come around here
Adjust my level up, make sure my niggas sound clear
They wanna stop and wanna steal
They hate that I'm the best and it's greatness in the flesh
And it's pointless to compare
You need to describe this jewelry I write to save this shit on the server
And type the way that I speak for moving space on a cursor
I'm not an advocate for violence, but push me, I'ma push it further This grip, hand on my hip, squeezing the way that i speak for moving space on a cursor i'm not an advocate for violence but push me i'ma push it further the script hand on my hip squeezing the grip a little
firmer these dumb niggas don't realize that it's better to be a learner stupid nip when you don't
that's when you get the feeling a burner shut the fuck up it's better to be watchers listeners and
observers if you're not you fuck around that's how niggas like you get murdered murder music
murder music murder music murder music yeah murder music murder
music murder music murder music murder music murder music
Didn't Busta Rhymes just lose a ton of weight?
He got really fit, right?
Have you seen that, Jamie?
He looks good.
Busta Rhymes, he took some before and after pictures, too. He documented the whole experience.
Did he?
Yeah, he documented it.
I think we're going to try to find a way to help him get that put out so people can see that
his whole transformation i hope he puts it out where everybody's sure right youtube or something
yeah yeah if you see the pictures it's remarkable i mean he went from looking like a guy who's you
know getting a little heavy to physically fit yeah to To physically fit. Yeah, to ripped, to Wiz Khalifa ripped.
He's ripped.
Super strong.
He looks amazing.
He actually went all the way to the end.
He did, yeah.
He made it to the finish line.
Some guys get close.
Look at the difference.
He's got a six-pack.
That's crazy.
If you look at the one picture on the left,
he looks like he's many pounds overweight and not exercising.
And next to it, it's him with a six-pack.
He went all the way across the finish line.
That's what every fat guy wants.
What do you want out of this workout program?
If you were working with a fitness trainer, put that picture up.
This is what I did for Busta Rhymes.
I can do this for you.
He'd be like, oh, fuck, I'm in.'m in what do you gotta do just listen to everything i say
you're gonna eat everything i tell you to eat and we're gonna fucking do this are you ready
and if you did listen to that fucking guy and did what buster rhyme did yeah here's the thing about
six packs you don't get that shit for free you could say that you could lose some weight and
your abs will show but if your abs are under your no fat body
it's not going to look good buster rhymes has big ab muscles those look big that's strength
that's strength yeah you broke that down yeah that's not like a skinny waist where you see a
little bit of like abs but there's no like power behind it that's a powerful six-pack. That's how fuck you up six-pack.
Shout out to Busta Busta for being committed to getting this shit together.
Yeah, shout out to Busta Rhymes.
Doing that and putting that out there for everybody to see
that that's possible, that you can go from being overweight
and not feeling good about yourself to being shredded.
Fuck yeah.
Good shit.
We all get better from that.
And that's what people
Have to understand
When you see someone succeeding
The people that haven't
Succeeded yet
Sometimes there's a tendency
For them to get angry
Right
At people
Like yourself
Or anybody
That has succeeded
And they get upset
But they need to see
The struggle
If they see the struggle
Then they can understand
It a little bit better
To see that it was
Hard work that was put in
To get into that point And they just gotta believe That one day it's gonna be them to the angriest guys
Or the guys that think it's not gonna happen to them. Those are the guys that
they think
Everybody else is gonna make it and they're not gonna make it and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy
Wish I could say that clear self-fulfilling prophecy
I wish I could have said that clearer.
Self-fulfilling prophecy.
Self-fulfilling prophecy.
Yeah, because they create so much bad energy because they're worried that everybody's going to fuck them over,
that everybody just wants to avoid them.
Yeah, shake, rattle, and roll.
But like I was saying, that is 2021.
That's Benny the Butcher, Jadakiss, Busta Rhymes, Snoop Dogg,
three East Coast rappers and one West Coast rapper
all on one song pushing and promoting peace through that murder music.
And that's just showing you the mind state of hip hop today that we've put so far past that, that that's where we at.
That's beautiful.
That's beautiful.
Hip hop in general, I mean, if you really stop and think about it, it's one of the most recent art forms in the world.
In terms of like something that it's one of the most recent art forms in the world in terms of like something that it's the one of the most impactful right I mean think about how
many songs are used for like how many like Frankie Edgar to this day comes out
to Biggie you know I mean how many how much influence has hip-hop had I think
we got six inductees in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
That's amazing.
I think we got Public Enemy, N.W.A., Tupac, Biggie, LL, Jay-Z.
Right?
There should be a lot more.
It's a start.
You got to start somewhere.
It's beautiful that that's a start,
but they should go back to Cool G Rap.
They should get Gangstar in there.
There's a lot that should be in there.
But the problem with award shows is,
without award shows, with awards,
how many people are deciding awards?
What the people have spoken,
the people have said that this art form that really didn't even emerge until like the late 70s, right?
When was the first ever like recognized hip hop?
What was the first rap music?
What year?
It was before the Sugarhill Gang.
It was people that was making hip hop that probably didn't have record deals.
And it was people that was rapping on songs, too, like Rudy Ray Moore and Clarence Reed, Blowfly.
Blowfly had a song called Rap Dirty.
Look that up.
See what year that came out.
And Rudy Ray Moore was a comic, right?
Yeah, but Rudy Ray Moore was a comic, but he made music, and his music had rhymes and riddles and shit in it.
What year was that?
Early 70s.
So Blowfly was one of the first ones to have a real song where he was rapping.
What year did Rap Dirty come out?
1980?
So as comedians, we have a godfather.
Our godfather of comedy is Lenny Bruce.
That's the guy.
And that's Richard Pryor's guy.
Exactly.
And Richard Pryor was the great one Richard Pryor was the guy who took the the original guy that started out the
Hoyce Gracie right and he took it to a whole new place to a place that like transcended everything
and then everything else came from there is there someone like that from hip-hop
is there one person you look back and say that's the hoist crazy hip-hop will probably be Hollywood because Russell Simmons
just gave me some game on Hollywood Hollywood and then um who's Hollywood he's one of the first
DJ MCs to rap and DJ and MC at the same time. His name is Hollywood out of New York.
And I'm just getting my history on him.
And I'm going to sit down with him and do a one-on-one conversation with him
so I can get the full insight.
But I know Russell Simmons told me he was one of the forefathers to this shit.
And then Kool Herc definitely.
And Kool Herc had a rapper that was with him that was rapping.
So those three are like the trifectas to creating this thing called hip-hop.
And then from there, it's Sugar Hill, and then everything that follows.
It's everything that follows, starting with Sugar Hill, Run DMC, Houdini.
Sugar Hill is recognized as being the first record.
The first record. The first record that made-
The first shot fired.
The first clean record that was shot around the world that made hip hop officially a real thing.
Right.
And then Run DMC made it motherfucking official. LL Cool J came behind it and made it superficial.
Public Enemy and WA like-
Changed everything. Ice-T.
Yes. KRS-One. Oh my everything. Ice-T. Yes.
KRS-One.
Oh, my God.
Biz Markie.
Big Daddy Kane.
H-U-S-T-L-E-R Hustler.
I would listen to that when I was delivering newspapers, too.
Six in the morning, police at my door.
Fresh Adidas squeaking across the bathroom floor. Do-do-do.
I've been an Ice-T fan since the 80s as well.
Ice-T is my OG.
Have you ever had him on your podcast?
No, I definitely would, though.
I would love to.
You never had Ice-T on?
No, I would.
I get nervous around people that I was like,
you know, those giant fans of when I was a kid.
Like, legit, that's the people that make me nervous.
It's like, I can meet people when I'm an adult, and it makes sense to me, but when I think about the people that I me nervous because it's like i can meet people when i'm an adult and it makes
sense to me but when i think about the people that i was like giant fans of that when i was a kid and
then i meet them it's just weird you're still a kid to them yeah i'm still a kid same way when
i'm around magic johnson yeah you know people like that even around like eddie murphy me eddie
murphy didn't kick it a couple times but I'm just different around him because that motherfucker.
He make me nervous.
He was the one.
When I was a kid, like, this motherfucker was the funniest nigga ever.
Yeah, he makes me nervous.
And for him to know who I am, to have me come over his house, that shit threw me off.
Like, damn, Eddie Murphy want to hang out with me, man.
I'm nervous as a motherfucker right now.
I only got to meet Eddie once because I'm friends with Charlie, and I was at a resort in Maui, just random.
And I ran into Charlie's cousin.
I'm like, hey, what are you doing here, man?
And he goes, I'm here with Charlie.
Eddie's here.
He goes, you want to come by and say hi?
I go, where are they?
He goes, they're having lunch right now.
I'm like, oh, my God.
I went over and sat down, and I was hanging out with Charlie Murphy and Eddie Murphy.
And I was like, this is the craziest shit I've ever experienced in my life.
The Murphy boys?
It didn't even seem real.
Eddie Murphy's a guy that you talk to, you're like, I can't believe you're right there.
You know?
That's my guy.
Let's see if the OG gonna pick up.
He probably on the set.
You trying to call him?
On the set of the SUV show.
CSI.
Don't he be doing that?
Who's on that?
IHT.
Oh, yeah.
Special Victims Unit.
That's what it is.
SVI.
SVI.
S-unit.
SVU.
You don't know that.
I don't.
There's always somebody getting done bad on that show.
Every time I look up, it's somebody getting done bad.
They gave Ice-T a day job.
He getting that money. Exactly. was getting that bread for real i seen him on a commercial with a stone cold steve he's done everything but when uh when i was a kid iced tea was uh you know
i mean he was the epitome He was one of the original
From 6 in the morning
I mean and then
When he started doing heavy metal music
And he played Cop Killer
Wow
People don't understand
How dangerous that was
To do that pre-internet
At that time?
At that time at that time
Like what here's something to consider when you see that there's good cops and bad cops
And you see a lot of the bad cop videos on on Instagram and YouTube and all that stuff that comes out
You get a chance to see them now during the ice tea-T days when he made Cop Killer, you didn't get to see shit.
Hell nah.
Nobody had a camera.
So he was taking a chance.
He was taking a wild chance. He was taking a chance with his life, too.
Legitimately.
Like, they had to be thinking about taking his life.
There had to be, like, a few bad cops.
That was the first time somebody had really spoke up.
N.W.A in wa spoke yes but
they didn't say cop killer exactly they said fucking police this motherfucker said cop and
he had the white crowd with him because he was on some like syndicate shit he's playing metal
it was metal yeah what was the name of that band rhyme syndicate rhyme syndicate Rhyme Syndicate. Rhyme Syndicate. That was his...
That was his...
That was Alter Ego.
Yeah.
So he would do that, and it was like...
He just had a different way of expressing himself.
So he had his Ice-T records,
and then he had the records that he did
where he was screaming metal music.
What he noticed was...
I'm a motherfucking cop killer.
What he noticed was,
when he was making them hood records, what he noticed was... I'm a motherfucking cop killer. What he noticed was when he was making
them hood records
and he started doing shows,
his fans looked like
that metal audience.
Yes.
And I feel like
he probably was like,
you know what,
I need to make something
for you motherfuckers.
Since y'all want me
to be rocked the fuck out,
let me rock out one time.
I think he likes it too, though.
Yeah.
It's both of those things.
It's that he likes it too.
He gotta love it
to the way he was doing it.
He was screaming and doing all the shit that they do
right now there was a guy that I used to do taekwondo with and he was a cop and
He liked that song and me and him were talking and he was you know
He's a black dude too. Yeah, we were talking I go does that song fuck with you? He goes no he goes
I love that song. He's just like can't say good right other cops
He goes, I love that song.
He's just like, I can't sing it around other cops.
So it's like in your car, you're a cop.
And in your car, you're driving around going, I'm a motherfucking cop killer.
Like, you're singing that? Hey, turn that shit down real quick.
And he's a cop.
That's fucking crazy.
It was hilarious.
We were laughing so hard.
Because we were like, this is so crazy.
But that's what music do, though.
It break those barriers.
Yeah.
It break all walls.
It's also like when you are hearing a song from that perspective, this perspective is
about a person who's literally afraid of being murdered by a cop.
Right.
Because that has happened.
We all know that's happened.
So when you hear that, you put yourself in the position of that person singing that song.
That's what everybody does.
One of the things that everybody loves about a great song, you know, kick in the door, wave in the 4-4.
All you heard was Papa, don't hit me no more.
You imagine you're the person saying those things.
Right.
That's what's happening for the people that are tuning in and listening it's so valuable the engagement of knowing that that that is
you yeah you listen to the song that's why you so yeah into it cuz you feel
like he's talking about me and that you could imagine you if you were at your
best being that guy you can imagine if you get your shit together you could be
talking like Biggie and making everybody look stupid right you know that's crazy one night we was in la
and um it was like we're in hollywood somewhere and poc had biggie with him and we was just on
stage rapping and and everybody was freestyling warren g Biggie, Pac, and myself. There may be some video footage of that.
See if you can find that.
Biggie, Snoop, Tupac, Warren G, freestyling in Hollywood.
Wow.
Yeah, that shit was hard.
And we didn't really know cuz at the time.
So we was looking at, who was this fat motherfucker rapping?
When he started rapping, niggas was like, shh.
When them words came out of his mouth,
motherfucker stopped looking at what he looked like
and was like, shit, he hard as fuck.
One of my favorite videos in all of hip-hop
is Biggie on the corner in Brooklyn
when he was 17 years old.
Have you ever seen that?
Yeah, but see this shit right here?
There's people in the crowd.
Dad, Timothy, Biggie. T-Hawk and biggie on stage yeah corrupt b-tip k-dub do you think when it comes to people right there he wasn't even on death row records
that's this this is the crazy part. They go Biggie right there.
And what year was this?
93.
He wasn't even on Death Row Records.
He was just my homeboy that came through
to fuck with me.
And he brought Cuz Woody.
See, now Biggie on the mic.
They go Warren G right there.
Technique.
He have an explosive style.
He on the West Coast.
This is in L.A.
How good is his style?
He rapping on Warren G beat.
Give me some volume, Jamie.
I missed it.
See if you can find that video of him when he was 17 years old on a street corner.
That's one of my favorites.
Because you see a dude who's just a couple of years removed from being a kid.
Well, see, people don't even know that exists.
Right.
You just gave them some exclusive shit right there that's on
YouTube but they don't know it exists here it is this is my favorite give me
some volume
store folks the rhythm but just the You imagine being out there and seeing a 17-year-old kid rapping like that?
You're like, oh, it's over.
It's over it's over give me a rush I gotta have my rush
imagine someone being that good at 17 years old.
Mm-hmm.
I know a bunch of cats like that.
The video we played before only has 4,000 views on it.
Wow.
That's what I'm trying to tell you, Joe.
4,000 views?
You finna make this shit.
And the only reason why I'm saying this is because I seen it one night on accident.
I only seen a little piece of it.
And I was like, damn, I remember that night.
That was like some cool shit we had did.
You know, Snoop Dogg, young Snoop Dogg,
before he had long hair.
So what is this?
This one has 4,600 views.
It says, Tupac and Biggie on stage, 1993 rare.
Just try to find that on YouTube, and it'll pop up.
It has 4,612 views as of today.
I bet you next time we talk,
that motherfucker gonna have 400-something thousand views.
Yeah, it's today's November 11th,
2021. But look, this is 93
when we all cool,
we all chillin',
we on the West Coast, Tupac brought
Biggie with him, we rockin',
we let Cug get down with us, we go in the
back, smoke, chill, hang out, it's
beautiful. When did it go sideways?
Once Pac got shot sideways once pod got shot
when he got shot he felt like they did it but and this was when he got shot in
New York yeah before he got shot in Vegas yeah and he felt like someone from
the west coast was involved no or for the East Coast yes excuse me yes and
later information came out that the people that he thought did it had nothing to do with it.
So by him accusing people of it, it kind of set things off.
And then by him being bailed out by Death Row Records, and Death Row Records added more gasoline to the fire,
and him being a part of the most gangsterous label in the world that his opposition didn't want no issues with.
It only egged it on as opposed to,
let's find a resolution,
let's keep making it more of a problem.
You know, in hindsight,
we should have been sitting him down saying,
nah, let's not go after him,
let's just make great music.
And you know, you're on bail right now.
He wasn't even out of jail,
he was out on bail when he got killed.
You on bail right now.
He wasn't even out of jail.
He was out on bail when he got killed.
It's obviously you're dealing with giant cultural influences and big business, too, because the business of rap is big business.
But there's comparisons to that and what's happening with other countries.
There really is yeah man because
the people the people can all get along but joe did you see that yes you see how pure that was
yes i did yeah i did we were all young i was 22 yeah poc was 22 we was all the same age so it's
like this is us at 22 years old being young mcs competitive you see the spirit he was rapping
when he was rapping like he was battling the same way he was rapping on the corner.
Right.
Same spirit, but that's what hip-hop was.
We enjoy when somebody can come and hold his own.
Yes.
But what's really crazy is if that's 1993,
that is at the very most a 10-year-old art form.
15 at the most.
15, 15 at the most.
Yeah, 15.
Like where it really emerges.
Right.
So within 15 years,
you have from almost no influence
to almost the most influence.
And depending on what month that was either I just
caught the case or I hadn't caught the case hmm and the way I'm looking on it don't look like I
caught a case Wow see by the way I'm moving yeah I'm looking at my spirit in my body and right you
know thinking about it yeah yeah and when I caught the case all that kind of was over with right so it's like sugar hill run dmc def jam def jam and then nwa
well there's ice teas in the mix there as well too short ghetto boys west coast yeah and cool g rap
yeah right there's a. There's a lot.
There's a lot of different shit going on.
And then, of course, Wu-Tang Clan.
Right.
They come out after me.
Yeah.
They come out around a month after me or probably the same.
They came out a little bit after me.
And then, you know, that almost becomes a cult.
Like Wu-Tang Clan's almost a cult.
And then you can't forget.
They're almost a religion.
Then you can't forget. You can't forget Rockefeller. can't forget that you can't forget no limit no you can't forget
rough riders right you can't forget murder inc there's certain you can't forget bad boy
there's certain that just took the rap a lot so souckers just came and just said, we got the rap game right now.
We got this.
Yeah.
Well, like what you were saying about supporting artists,
about all, I do think that hip-hop might have been the first real big group
of artists that supported other artists openly.
Watch this.
I'm going to give you a question,
see if you can answer it.
Who's the first rapper to redo another rapper's song
in hip hop?
Whoa.
I'll give you the year, 1993.
Was it you?
Sure was, Snoop Dogg, we did Lottie Dottie.
Slick Rick.
Oh that's right, Slick Rick!
That's a Slick Rick Debbie first song. Yeah, Rick. Oh, that's right. Slick Rick. That's a Slick Rick.
Yeah, that's right. That's right. You did. I forgot.
I'm the first rapper to remake another rapper's song and pay homage to him while they were alive.
That had never been done before. Back then it was called biting if you took somebody else's lyrics or songs.
But what I did was I broke the rule by showing love and saying no I'm gonna remake it because I love him so much
And I love this song so much well when you do that
It doesn't hurt anybody and it helps everybody when you pretend. It's your own idea. That's when it hurts everybody
There's you it's the first time Joe is the first of his kind and I chose East Coast
To redo I could have did an Ice-T six in the morning
or Eazy-E or Ice Cube,
but I chose to go that way
because my spirit was saying
that was the most influential to me.
My workout music used to be Colors.
Ooh.
When that movie came out with Sean Penn,
remember that movie?
I am a knight.
Oh, my psychopath talking.
That was...
Big fella.
Who's that?
Can you see him?
Is that Shaq?
Mm-hmm.
He's frozen.
I feel like I'm going to a prom.
He's got some bad 5G.
Something happened.
When you going to a prom?
His image is not moving.
Is he still connected?
It's a poor connection. Ah, poor connection. It's not in here. There you go into a prom. His image is not moving. Is he still connected? It's a poor connection.
Ah, poor connection.
It's not in here.
There you go.
Big Daddy.
Shaq.
Shaq.
What's going on?
What's happening, brother?
How are you?
What's going on?
Put a microphone on him, Stu.
I'm doing good.
You good?
I'm just calling Shaq on you, brother.
I'm good, Shaq. I got my spirit right man I can't complain hey you know I love you too I know what this call is you just checking my spirit making sure I'm right that's what big brother's
supposed to do making sure your brother is right you know I love you I'm good I'm straight we sent
mama home my spirit is right I'm back doing what she wouldn't want me to do, be out there making people smile and having love in there.
All right, boy.
Love you, boy.
Love you, too.
And I'm knocking that out for you tomorrow, too, for the show,
them getting them first four episodes out the way.
All right, girl.
I appreciate it.
Love you, boy.
Turn to mommy.
Shaq, good to see you, friend.
Good to see you, brother.
Take care, brother.
All right, peace.
Peace and love.
Shaq got a big-ass American flag on his shirt.
Where the fuck is he going?
Shaq, you know, we talked about this the other day.
Shaq's a sheriff.
He's like a deputy.
You know what they say in the hood?
What?
There's two motherfuckers that's controlling the marketing, branding TV world right now.
Who?
Shaq and Snoop.
Every commercial you see is either Shaq or Snoop. Really? Watch TV. There's a lot who Shaq is snow every commercial you see is either
Shaq or snow really why is a lot of Shaq commercials that's a fact a lot of snow
commercials damn but do you feel in any way constricted connected to like those
kind of people at corporate America type people they love me they love me cuz I
don't know how to do them I do me and that's nah they love me they love me because i don't know how to
do them i do me and that's what they be missing they don't want another corny up in
there they want somebody with some style some grace and some flair that can give their brands
you know the that they miss it do you think you could talk me through the making of this blunt
yeah first thing you do is you got to take the edge of it unroll it and you kind of cut into it
your fingernail yeah and then you you un-gut it you got to take the edge of it unroll it and you kind of cut into it your fingernail yeah and then you you unguided you got a gut it take all of
the tobacco out cuz we don't want no tobacco in there why don't these back
woods people just admit the truth that most of their cigarettes are sold to
people want to turn them into blunts well right they making their money they
don't give a damn but they should probably like how about they make some
with no tobacco in the motherfucker, huh?
Right.
Yeah.
Cut the shit.
Just one they call wink wink?
Yeah.
Cut the shit.
Because otherwise people are growing tobacco for no reason.
Like, what are you going to do with the tobacco that's on that pad?
Throw that shit away?
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
That's ridiculous.
That shouldn't be in there.
Right? We have a problem. We have a communication problem. San Antonio, we have a problem. way exactly that's what i'm saying that's ridiculous that shouldn't be in there right
we have a problem we have a communication problem san antonio we have a problem like swisher sweets
if they just sold the outside they would win they would win because they could sell it for almost
the same price and less to work because less to work and they wouldn't have to grow any tobacco for the inside. Just a wrap.
What are we doing?
So I put the bud on the inside.
Is this a revelation?
No, I mean, they sell wraps, but they're different.
Yeah.
I don't mean wraps.
I mean, sell the actual outside tobacco leaf.
I know.
They do.
They sell the leaf.
Yeah, it's different.
But they shouldn't sell the inside.
Like, if they only sold the outside, they said blunt wraps.
Just call it blunt wraps.
They got something called Fanta Leafs in the leaf.
Who does it?
Lots of people.
No, but the Swisher Sweets?
Oh, them in particular?
Or Backwoods?
Nope.
No.
They probably don't.
They got one called the Fanta Leaf, where it's a big-ass, long-ass, big leaf,
and you just tear off what you need as you go.
You know what I'm saying?
And a lot of the Jamaicans, the rosters, they do that.
They keep that Fanta leaf with them, and they pull it out and roll accordingly
without having to do all of that.
That's the way to go.
Right.
It's interesting that tobacco has become a thing in our society, in our culture,
that we associate with being negative.
But if you go to like these shamanic cultures, it's a part of all these psychedelic rituals.
I used to work for a company called Blunt Wraps.
That actually already has shit in it.
Oh, Swooshy Sweets has it.
Did you see Snoop Dogg Blunt Wraps?
I used to work for.
But he pulled up Swooshy Sweets.
They have an actual blunt wrap that's made out of sandpaper.
Yeah, they bit the company.
I'm years behind.
I'm sorry Swisher Sweets. They stole our idea I was what a company called blunt raps look that up see if
Snoop Dogg blunt raps pull that up I did photos and all kind of shit.
yeah see well there's probably a lot of people thinking that I mean it's not a I'm a moron and I figured it out 10 years after
Everybody else
You know
Yeah right now
I was like why don't they just sell the papers
Meanwhile they have a whole fucking business
They probably ship a million blunt wraps
A month and I'm like why don't they just sell
Blunt wraps
They're different though
There's a market for the way it comes.
Right.
There's an old school thing.
It's like operating a transmission that's a manual, right?
Mm-hmm.
Do you have three phones?
Mm-hmm.
What's happening there?
I got three phones, two for the hose and one for the load.
The CMN's
in there with
three phones
and by the way
none of them
have that like
screen turn off
at 30 seconds mode.
No I don't know.
I ain't got nothing
to hide.
All three
but they're like
glowing
in your face
constantly.
The screen
never goes dark
and you got
three phones
running simultaneously.
Get a bar this this shit, Joe.
Oh, my God.
That's hilarious.
Yes, sir.
Not only is someone not, like, busting out their phone on the show,
but to bust out three of them.
Snoop, you're so next level.
Thank you, Joe.
I'm so glad you're around.
People like you are so important
like legitimately important because the way things go good or bad the way
things go happy or sad angry or happy a lot of that has to do with people like
you. When a person like you is real fun and happy and so many people love them
and that's what you spread camaraderie and happiness but if people go
to see snoop dogg they're of a similar mindset and they but if even if they weren't previously
they adopt a similar mindset because they see you having so much fun and giving out so much love and
everybody embraces you and they realize at a certain time in the night they realize i can do
this too we can all do this we can all behave to everybody that we know and we meet and we come into contact with the
same way Snoop Dogg does and that's beautiful you said that because November
8th was my mom's funeral and it was such a beautiful celebration of her life and
the way people left there you know speaking about my mom is speaking about
the way they felt just gave me more reason to continue to keep doing what I'm supposed to be doing and not be sad and not be down, but be thankful that I had 50 years with an angel.
That's beautiful.
You know what I mean?
Yes, I do now.
That's beautiful.
and that's what we make you do it make you reflect on great moments in life and it makes you think about the blessing of being here as opposed to the frustration of not having them anymore
yes you know what it does it makes you sensitive and it doesn't mean that your path is clearly
paved right like sometimes when you're sensitive you can go into paranoia and fear and or you can go into love and acceptance and camaraderie and just like
recognizing the finite nature of our existence it's so limited I'm 54 there's
no way I'm anything less than halfway dead there There's no way. Joe, you look 20-something, man.
You look 20-something.
You look good.
Science.
Me and my boy Kevin was like,
we pulled the jackets out,
and we seen you in real life.
We was like, damn, he buff as a motherfucker.
I don't know.
He probably going to have problems taking his jacket off.
This motherfucker going to be tight on him.
You look good, Joe.
I think I'll fit in it.
Thank you very much.
And that takes a lot when we get to the fifth floor to still be dedicated to working out, making sure our body is still on point.
Because I just got to the fifth floor.
Well, I figured out somewhere along the line that there's like a part of it I want to look good.
Part of it I want to be strong because I'm insecure.
But there's also part of it that I realize that i can be my best person when i can control my own
demons and the way i control my own demons is i have to like conquer them i conquer them i don't
want to work out i force myself to and i force myself to push myself like and it's not like a
lot of like heavyweight stuff that makes you look good it's a lot of and it's not like a lot of like heavyweight stuff that
makes you look good it's a lot of painful shit like it's a lot of rounds in the bag and like
tabata sprints on the airdyne bike and shit like that that's what I like to do I like to do shit
where I don't like to do it when I'm doing it but I like how I feel after it's over and that's what
ruthless workouts do they make you a more peaceful person and i know
that there's people that are afraid of them and they're afraid of people that are ahead of them
because they feel like those people are going to be mean to them but it's not it's not the case
you gotta you gotta embrace struggle and not struggle like unnecessary struggle or a horrible
struggle or you know you got cancer or your family's poor. That's not what I mean. I mean embrace difficult tasks.
Like dig in.
Dig in.
And then once you got some momentum, like you're a Snoop Dogg,
one of the things that I admire about you is you're so active.
You do so many different things.
You're always moving.
You're doing commentary.
You're making new albums.
You're touring.
You're doing commercials.
You're doing movies. And you're making new albums, you're touring, you're doing commercials, you're doing movies,
and you're you professionally.
You're doing a show with Martha Stewart.
Shout out to our buddy Chris McGuire.
You know Chris McGuire?
Yes, sir, he's my guy.
Yeah.
We started out doing stand-up together.
For real?
Yes.
He told me he was doing that show with you.
I'm like, that's amazing.
That's amazing.
He's dope as fuck.
I fuck with him.
Yeah.
He's a smart dude.
Very smart dude.
But it's like what you're doing is so important to the culture,
to the culture of this country, you know?
Fun and great entertainment and talking shit.
Like, people forget talking shit is fun.
It is.
Like, when you're talking shit about Roy Jones Jr talking shit about roy jones jr versus mike tyson and they both my friends yes that's the beauty yes they're both my
friends too i mean you know it reminds me of when i used to watch a show as a kid called all in the
family i used to love fucking archie bunker that motherfucker talks so much shit so much shit that
motherfucker i look forward to Archie
talking shit.
That just was like
the era like I come up in.
You love for somebody
to talk shit to you
because it got you good
with being able
to talk shit back.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's sparring.
You know what I mean?
It's sparring.
Exactly.
It's like a verbal sparring.
And there's so many people
that are so sensitive today
that don't want to hear
any sparring.
Yeah. Fuck that. Our era, we don't give a fuck. They don't want to hear any sparring. Yeah.
Fuck that.
Our area, we don't give a fuck.
They don't give a fuck.
You talk shit about me just knowing I'm going to hit your ass back.
Well, all those Tony Hinchcliffe roasts, all those roasts like the Martha Stewart roast
and all those roasts where Martha Stewart was writing, rather, where she was doing jokes
on roasts, those are all Tony's.
Man, Tony did my shit.
He's a fucking killer.
Him and Jeff Ross are the guys that I go to when it's time for me.
A hundred percent.
Those are the two kings of roasts.
I go to those two guys.
Tony's actually writing a movie for me right now.
Yeah, that's my guy, you know what I'm saying?
So me and him, I fell in love with him when I had him do a comedy special or some shit.
And he was the only white comedian on there and he
fucked up everybody that looked like me and at the end of the night everybody was like
who was that white boy I said don't worry about nothing I ain't hiring you niggas ever
again he fucked all y'all up he was the shit I mean just the way he came out there and
took control of the crowd and His stand-up was amazing.
It's amazing. Do you know ever since he moved to Texas
he started wearing a cowboy hat?
Are you serious?
Snoop! Snoop!
He opens up for me in arenas
and this motherfucker walks out
in a cowboy hat with a cowboy
shirt on, big old belt buckle,
cowboy boots.
No, he's shit.
He tore all their asses up.
Every last one of them.
No.
Look, Tony Inchcliffe's a straight up murderer.
I work with him all the time.
I worked with him last night.
He's so good.
He said if we go out to dinner tonight that he wants to come.
He's so underrated.
He's too underrated.
Yeah.
Very underrated.
I'm trying to do something about that
I'm gonna when I bought a club here and I'm opening up a comedy club and
Once I have everything set up and ready to film I want to film and produce Tony's comedy special
He's the shit. Yeah, and a bunch of other comedians. I want to start producing make it right now show up
I'll be the musical guest that night
Yummy, yes, hear you because then that
way we'll make it go yes it's going to happen it was going to happen anyway yeah i wanted to
have to wait till the club opens yeah give him that extra little piece to pull out his hat we'll
do it 100 um i told him you know like like he could get a deal with netflix or he could do
amazon all these different i think i told him i think he should just put it out there
let the people want it and see it put it on YouTube and then let them come back and pay for one
Exactly or pay to see you live. That's probably the better relationship
The best relationship is you give it away for free
Then when they come see you they got to pay to see you do a lot exactly got you
So it's like they come to see you cuz you already gave them something. So now they feel like they gotta give you something.
Well, they feel like they want to come see you.
Like you're connected to you.
It's organic.
They're supporting you.
Yes, yes.
That's what I think.
There's a lot of comics that have done that now.
Like Mark Norman.
How many views does Mark Norman's special have?
It's just a good time, Snoop.
It's a good time for rap.
It's a good time for hip-hop. It's a good time for rap. It's a good time for hip-hop.
It's a good time for comedy.
Have you ever watched Versus?
Versus what?
What is Versus?
The Versus battle where they have two artists singing songs against each other.
7.9 million.
This is what Mark Norman's special has.
So he just put it up on Instagram, or YouTube rather, and 7.9 million people have watched it.
There's no way he would get that many on any other network, right?
No.
No.
Because even Netflix, which is the giant of all streaming platforms,
you have to pay.
You got to cap when it comes to that.
Exactly.
But you don't have to pay for YouTube,
and there's so much shit on YouTube.
No, I'm telling you about Versus.
Versus is a show that was created by Swiss Beasts and Timbaland
where they have two artists do 20 songs against
each other so now we're thinking about a versus battle with comedians where they
go against each other because I don't see that anymore like two comedians
talking about each other at the end and at the end of the show the crowd picks
who was the funniest well let me tell you something.
I got all my gold chips on that kid Tony.
Against anybody.
Against anybody.
That's what I like.
Yeah.
That's what the fuck I like to hear.
Yeah.
I got all my chips on Tony Hinchcliffe.
All of them.
Across the board.
That's what I like to hear.
Yeah.
I'm all in.
I'm all in.
You give him three rounds, 15 minutes apiece.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're not.
That little motherfucker's obsessed.
And he's mean.
Because he weighs 130 pounds.
I know what he...
I've seen him in a...
He comes out swinging.
I've seen him in an all-black audience with an all-black crowd steal the fucking show.
Bro, Tony Hinchcliffe's a monster.
He's a monster.
My money on him, too.
I'm just going to slide it to you on the low.
Yeah, we do tours together.
I've done like 15, 20 arenas with Tony Hinchcliffe.
He's a bad motherfucker.
We should put one of those together.
I would love it.
That would be so fucking dope.
I would love it.
Who's man enough to get in the ring with him?
Yeah.
Who's funny enough?
Yeah, we could do that.
We could do that like we would do A combination of
We have that
A few musical artists
Yeah
Have uh
Tony goes to war
With people
Who can be Tony
I could be like
The ring announcer
I'll be like
The Bruce Buffer
Or fuck that
Bring in Bruce Buffer
Fuck it
Bring in Bruce Buffer
For real
Or make
Why would we have
Or make
Motherfuckers
That's how you make
Tony a star You make motherfuckers. That's how you make Tony a star.
You make motherfuckers try to knock him off.
Yes.
He's like the motherfucking head of the video game, the last challenge.
He's the last floor.
That might be a great show.
That could be a great show.
Just like beat Bobby Flay?
Yes, exactly.
Beat Tony Hinchcliffe.
His show's called Kill Tony.
Fuck it.
Right? I mean, kind of crazy. Fuck it. That it shows called Kill Tony fuck it right
I mean
kinda crazy
fuck it that's it
Kill Tony
you can just call it
Kill Tony
the roast
yeah
right
yeah
Kill Tony roast
yeah
I like that
cause real Kill Tony
is really just
Kill Tony's just a host
he's helping everybody out
but Kill Tony
like a
a real roast battle.
And you know what that would do too?
It would make the sensitive people to comedy
be non-sensitive because now you have two comedians
talking shit about each other and they can't be sensitive.
So now how can you be fucking sensitive when they're not?
Exactly.
Right?
Change the narrative.
That's what he's doing already with that show, Kill Tony.
Because if you'd never seen that show, Kill Tony, every Monday day, they put their names in a hat.
And then when the show comes around, the people are all in the audience.
They don't know if they're going to get picked.
And they draw their names out of the hat.
And they let them come up and they do one minute.
So doing one minute of comedy in front of hundreds of thousands of people that are watching online.
And all the 270 people that are in the club.
And Tony fucks with them when he gives them props.
And he's made careers from that.
Guys who are just amateurs who are like maybe they're working as waiters.
Or maybe they're waitresses or whatever the fuck.
Accountants.
And then they get this shot to be on Kill Tony and they get some laughs
and they start realizing, oh, my God, I could be a fucking comedian.
Why are you even FaceTiming him right now?
Who?
Tony.
I can.
I'll FaceTime him.
He'll pick up for you.
He's probably going to look at me like a fucking bill collector.
No, no.
Are you kidding me?
He had a bit for a while about how he got a call from you
and then he answered the call.
He was hitting him on FaceTime.
It was him and his girl.
They was going into a club.
Called Tony Hinchcliffe.
Hey, Tony.
What's going on?
Here we go.
Let's see who you're going to pick up on first.
He getting calls from me and you at the same time.
Let's test his friendship.
Who dialed first, though?
Let's just test his friendship.
That's what it's all about.
You better not pick up neither one, you motherfucker.
Yeah, he better play this.
Oh, he went with Snoop!
You son of a bitch!
You son of a bitch! You son of a bitch.
Joe thought you was going to pick up his phone.
We both dialed at the same time.
You went with the Snoop call, you son of a bitch.
Shut down.
Snoop.
I won.
I won.
I shoot the BB gun.
Tony, we're in the middle of a podcast.
Oh, sweet. I love it. Put him in front of the microphone so we can hear. Tony, we're in the middle of a podcast.
Put him in front of the microphone.
We're in the middle of a podcast, and we just did a thing where we both FaceTimed you at the same time.
We were trying to see who would pick up.
Would you pick up Snoop's phone or my phone?
You picked up Snoop's.
It was humiliating.
Joe just had the mafia.
They had a gun to his head and said,
if this motherfucker don't pick up the phone, I'm going to kill you.
And I had the same mafia on me, and they said,
which one going to pick up first?
And you picked up for me, so Joe's dead.
Thanks, Tony.
Thanks, Tony.
What are you doing, man?
What are you doing?
I'm chilling, chilling.
Just woke up from a nap, sitting here making coffee.
Snoop, do you have dinner plans?
I gotta fly back to L.A.
When do you fly back?
What time?
Seven.
Seven?
Okay.
Snoop's gotta fly back at seven.
I'll call you when I get out of here.
Tony.
Okay.
What's up with that movie, cuz?
What's up with that movie, cuz?
We're doing it.
We're knocking it out.
You let me know.
Hit me up sometime when you're not on the biggest show in the world, you animal.
Have me on Kill Tony one episode, man.
Fuck it.
Yeah, come back to Austin on a Monday.
I'm not afraid.
I owe you and Matthew McConaughey a visit and Willie Nelson.
All y'all live in the same neighborhood.
We love you out here.
We're going to try to get you here.
Tony, we got an idea for a show.
Snoop and I came up with an idea for a show with you in it.
Oh, sweet.
What is it?
The real Kill Tony.
You battle roasting with people.
We bring you in as the king.
Just like beat Bobby Flay, they got to kill Tony.
This is what we do first. We set you up with a
bunch of fucking Tijuana cab drivers.
Like they would
a Mexican prospect.
You know, that was the thing that Greg Haugen
said to Julio Cesar Chavez.
Wrong call. Julio Cesar
Chavez beat the fucking shit out of him
for it. But the idea was
that he had this gigantic record
but the guys he fought in the beginning weren't that good.
So here's my thought. We get a bunch
of dudes who are cocky, who really
have an over-inflated
perspective of what they're capable of.
We start with them. We build
you up with contenders
and then eventually someone's going to get cocky.
There's going to be some
professional stand-up comic that maybe doesn't
like Tony Hinchcliffe.
Maybe doesn't like the whole ethos of roast rapping comedy, the kind of shows you do with Kill Tony. He wants to put you in your place.
Sounds like a dream.
I'll beat that motherfucker's ass in anything.
That's what we both said.
We're both putting all our chips on you, baby, so say less.
I told Snoop I'm putting all my chips on you, baby, so say less I told snoop
I'm putting all my chips on Tony all of them all of them. Let's do this. Let's work, man
We don't want to take up too much your time tone. We just want to drop a line on you show you some love baby
Keep it together bitch
Keep it together bitch
Bye-bye, he's hilarious. I said that shit like a white guy. Bye. Keep it together. Yatch. Bye, guys.
Bye-bye.
He's hilarious.
I said that shit like a white guy.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Well, he has a thing about you calling him and him acting like as white as humanly possible.
You can't believe how white he's acting as he's talking to you.
That's my guy right there, man. That's a beautiful thing that people actually pick up when we call. Yeah, that's my guy right there man that's a beautiful thing that people actually
pick up when we call yeah that's fun we got a call from shack a call from tony man we're doing
it big man this is a hell of an episode yeah when you when you can do like facetime calls of people
and they pick up right like that's a beautiful thing feels important yeah like i was saying
like when you when you and i were calling when, when I called you and I was sitting at the
dinner table and my daughter goes, holy shit, that's Snoop Dogg for real?
Yeah.
I was so impressed by the way she said that.
I was like, wow.
She's amazing.
Well, my kids, they understand that it's a high value of fun in the house.
Like if you can say something funny, if you can make daddy daddy laugh like that's a big deal like mommy might get mad
I mean my mommy might think it's time to go to bed
I think you gotta get out the door go to school but if you can make daddy laugh
like daddy kind of overrules it he starts laughing he'll fall on the floor
and laugh with you a thousand points yeah. Yeah, so my kids, they talk shit.
But they get it honest.
Yeah, but I also talk shit to them too
because I want them to be able to spar with kids at school.
Like, you don't want your kid to go to school
and be some fucking delicate lamb.
You want your kid to go to school to be like a loving gladiator.
No, when my kids were young
and trying to get into the music industry,
I was like the worst critic
for them.
I was like real hard
when they wasn't doing
anything to sound right.
I was like,
y'all shit sound like shit.
It's garbage.
It's this.
It's that.
And it taught them
to know that the world
is going to be
just as shrewd as I am,
but it's built up
that tough skin
to be able to say that,
you know,
rejection ain't nothing.
It's another opportunity out there say that, you know, rejection ain't nothing.
It's another opportunity out there.
Also, the kind of rejection you're giving them is better because you love them.
Right.
You love them.
They know you love them, and you're saying it sucks.
Like, that'll hurt for a while, but the key is learning a system of handling reality and avoiding any kind of pitfalls where you distort reality to save your ego or save your self-image or save the way other people perceive you.
Because that doesn't work anyway.
If people think that you want them to think about you in a certain way, they're not going to think about you that way.
They're going to think you want them to think about you that way. So they're gonna think you're weak, right?
The only way people perceive you in a way that measures up to what you're doing is if you do something if you want
Extraordinary love you got to do extraordinary things. Yes, like that Mike Tyson in his prime
Mike Tyson when he knocked out Michael Spinks in
his prime that was an when he knocked out Michael Spinks in his prime. That was
an extraordinary human.
And he got extraordinary
results. But he deserved them.
Yeah he did. He deserved them.
And that's the balance of life.
And some people don't think that that balance is
achieved because they think they deserve more than they do.
Right. But you just need to work harder.
Yeah. Put that work in and you'll
get the results. And also if it didn't put that work in and you'll get the results
and also if it didn't work out your way and you did work hard regroup no don't blame other people
don't get mad at people who are successful that fucks everybody up it fucks the successful people
up because they don't want to help you because now they're resentful it fucks you up because
it distracts you it takes away from your focus which should be a success well most people don't understand that most successful people have had a lot of failure in
their life in order to become successful not just a lot but like like the thing
you're doing when you're sparring with Daniel Serafian you that's you're
putting yourself in a situation where you're not the person who's the expert that and you learn and
you're you're also like crazy famous and you're practicing doing mma with a guy who fought in the
ufc a couple times his air is like a cauliflower yeah you ever touch it hell yeah it's hard as
fuck right yeah i'm like damn this shit come, this is experience.
When you get one of these motherfuckers, that means you experience.
Or you suck at getting out of triangles.
You've been squeezed the fuck out of here.
Yeah, it doesn't necessarily mean you're good.
I've met dudes who had cauliflower ear and they were terrible at jujitsu.
They just squeezed the fuck out you, huh?
I only have a tiny amount.
I have like a little bit right here in this ear right here
And I have some somewhere else where it's really hard, but it's just bleeding and so I always wore ear guards right when I when I
Grappled I wore these things you tuck them and you velcro under your chin, so you can't fuck my ears
Yeah, because the thing about me is like you gotta hear things right if you take your ear if you go like this with your
ear and We're talking, everything sounds normal.
But if you go like this and grab the top of it and pinch it down, it sounds different.
And then you let it go and start to, oh, now I hear everything.
Because your ear was designed to capture sound.
So as soon as you get cauliflower ear and you want to look like a badass, well, you sacrificed
being able to hear for looking
like a badass. The look over the
sound. Yeah, it's not good for
a guy like you. We won't compromise our sound
for the look. Why would anybody compromise on sound?
Sound moves people. Yeah.
Even old school shit. I was at the UFC
the other day and somebody came out to the Rocky
soundtrack.
I was like, oh my god. out to the Rocky soundtrack? Mm. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
I was like, oh my God.
That's the motion connection.
Dun, dun, dun.
Yeah.
Dun, dun, dun.
Dun, dun, dun.
Felt big.
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Dun, dun.
You see Rocky
running up those stairs
in Philadelphia? It reminded me of Howard Cosell calling the the stairs in Philadelphia.
It reminded me of Howard Cosell calling a fight here and there.
Do you know how good Rocky was?
He didn't even win.
That movie was amazing, and he didn't even win.
Adrian!
Like, think about that.
He didn't fucking win.
He didn't win that movie.
No.
He didn't win that fight in that movie.
No.
He fought Apollo Creed, who was essentially muhammad ali it was a version
of muhammad ali right he didn't even win and that movie made everybody get up and run i was like
eight years old dude i drank three raw eggs and i ran around the block i was trying to find the
statue and like they said that in philadelphia like damn can't run that far
who was the statue of?
Was it Joe Frazier?
I don't know, but the whole city was running behind him.
Yeah.
Is it a Joe Frazier statue?
Because he's from Philly.
Did Muhammad...
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I think it actually is Sylvester Stallone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's horrible.
In the movie, there's no statue.
That's horrible.
That's right.
Afterwards, they put a statue up there.
Right, right.
That's so crazy.
You think about all the people that came out of Philadelphia.
Bernard Hopkins.
Bernard Hopkins came out of Philadelphia.
Joe Frazier came out of Philadelphia.
They went with Sylvester Stallone.
Motherfucker was one and six.
A motherfucker that was one and six got a stadium up there.
He lost to Drago.
He lost to Clubber Lane.
Do you know Bill Burr?
Yeah, that's my...
Okay.
You ever see Bill Burr's rant about Philadelphia?
Man, he's from Boston.
He's a fucking...
Yeah.
He hates New York and Philadelphia, right?
Yeah.
He hate New York, though.
Well, we're from the same place.
I'm from Boston, too.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
I was the generation right before Bill left.
Oh, my God.
I was, like, late 80s.
Bill was early 90s.
It was right after each other.
We, like, passed like chips in the night.
Yeah, he's awesome.
He's awesome.
And he has his...
He was in Philadelphia, and they were booing Don Marrera.
And Don Marrera, who's, like, a legend, old-school comedy legend.
He's amazing.
HBO specials. Like, one of the greatest guys ever and one of the funniest guys ever. Don Marrero who's like a legend old school comedy legend he's amazing HBO specials like
one of the greatest guys ever and one of the funniest guys ever Don Marrero's on stage and
they like people were fucking with him and Bill Burr went on stage and lit Philadelphia on fire
and pissed on its grave wow it was like it was like nine minutes of him shitting on Philadelphia
with sports facts and everything and then finally
he gets to the thing where he's talking about how you got a fucking fake boxer who has a statue
he goes joe fraser came from philly i don't know if he said bernard hopkins but he said you got
fucking stilvestris alone you got rocky you got a fake guy. As the statue of Yosuke.
It's so funny.
You want to pretend this Italian guy kicked everybody's ass.
Bill Burr is a bad motherfucker, man.
He's a bad motherfucker.
Bill Burr is a special kind of comic.
I love him.
He's an unusual person.
And he does his podcast where it's just him.
It's so unusual.
There's guys that do it like my friend Tim Dillon does Tim Dillon and his producer Ben.
And he bounces shit off Ben and makes Ben laugh.
Bill does it like he's shouting out to the abyss.
It's just Bill.
All alone.
All alone.
It's just him in a room talking.
You know, I'm fucking telling you how I feel about shit.
And it's like one of the most popular
podcasts in the country his shit is dope though he got he got interesting shit to talk about
yeah I liked him in that movie with Pete Davidson I didn't see that that shit was good he's great
in everything he does he can do everything he's great at the drums yeah we see Bill Burr play the
drums he fucks it up he's really good at the drums. Multi-talented.
It's like anybody who gets to that level.
There's like levels of things, you know?
Levels of hip-hop, levels of rock music, levels of comedy, levels of everything.
When you get to that level and you just have a different way of...
You can do anything.
If you set your mind to it, you could do anything, you know?
It's meant to be done.
I sent you one more song.
I'm going to play one more song off of the algorithm.
Make a lot of money.
It's Fabulous Dave East and Snoop Dogg
produced by Hi-Tech.
My God.
Give it to me, Jamie.
What are my niggas saying? Say that. Give it to me, Jamie. Ain't no my niggas saying What up, fam?
I used to take the money Now I make the money
Saw my hoe with a drink
And told her make the money
If it's growing on trees
I'm trying to rake the money
Up the heat for the cake
I'm trying to bake the money
Back in Showtime
I get Laker money
No more Swiftie
I get Acre money
I got Hate Your Money
Try to snake your money
And my OG said
They act fake or funny
When you
What all the strips are saying Hate your money, try to snake your money. And my OG said they act fake or funny when you...
What all the strippers saying?
Money.
Hey.
What all my niggas saying?
Make some money. Say that.
Make some money.
Everybody like me.
Make some money.
Come on, buddy.
Get your money like me.
Hey, what up?
It ain't no question we work.
More strength than a referee shirt.
You have a TikTok as well?
Yeah. You do it all yourself?
Yeah, all me
I do my own TikTok
Inside Joe Rogan
Experience, you bitch, you
I feel like we could do a lot of these
Come on
Why not?
I feel like we could do a lot of these
Why not?
I feel like this is the beginning
We could do many, many, many episodes of this.
I feel like there's going to be a time where you have five phones in front of you.
Where three's not enough.
Three's not enough.
I'm telling you.
This is about as high as I've ever been on a podcast.
I just want to tell everybody out there, if I didn't make any sense, believe me, I realized
why I was talking.
I didn't make any sense.
I was in another dimension when this thing started.
I think we're okay now, though.
I feel like I'm back.
Me too. Jamie's a little jealous
It's alright
Look at him over there
Next time about money, man. When you get money, you gotta watch out for the suckers.
You gotta watch out
for the family.
But most importantly,
you gotta watch out
for the anxiety, right?
Because when you
making money,
you just get so anxious
to make more of it.
But you gotta learn how
to make more of it.
And that was gonna be
the next song on the record,
Anxiety.
I'm leaving my roaches
as a...
How does this open up?
As artifacts, history.
Leave all that tobacco, too,
so we can talk about climate change.
Let me get that for you.
Yeah, please do.
Let me show you how to do it.
You got to...
Up, and then you got to click it.
Like that. up and then it's you gotta click it
you got it this way we could do this afterwards this is better than being knighted. Fuck all you sirs. I'm going to drape you with the drip.
You're official now, Joe.
Drape you with the drip drop.
You're official now, y'all.
Dab jam, Joe.
I dreamed there was going to be a time
where Snoop would hang a chain around my neck
and say, drape you with the drip drop.
That's Def Jam Records, man.
You know what that means?
This is Def Jam Records.
I do.
Thank you.
You know what that means.
You a hip hop historian.
I do.
I am.
I'm a giant fan of hip hop.
That's Beastie Boys, Public Enemy,
EPMD, Slick Rick, LL Cool J. Yes. Come on, man. Yes. That's Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, EPMD, Slick Rick, LL Cool J.
Yes.
Come on, man.
Yes.
That's foundation.
It is foundation.
If you went to the history of music and musical influences, Def Jam is giant, right?
If you think about all the different labels and all the different trends of music, the amount of insanely good music that came out of def jam
dev jam has been the staple of hip-hop since the beginning of hip-hop but we were talking about
this earlier whether it's the late 70s the early 80s whatever it was when hip-hop emerged that's
really crazy that you're talking about an art form that's only 40 years old hip-hop is only
40 years old but hip-hop is the future because it constantly grows and grows and grows it started
from uh you know somebody doing it on the street corners and djing and whatnot now it's global it's
where you can't do nothing without hip-hop it's a part of everything moving and shaking well you know what it is it's a powerful new style of like musical culture it's a style that's only you know if you look at the hundreds
a year but if you really go back that's where it's crazy snoop if you go back 150 250 years ago
people were just playing piano and shit right no words no words yeah they had like uh they had guitars and they have
different instruments but where's all the like amazing lyrics i know right like beethoven if you
if you go to the old old classical music yeah the oldest shit when was beethoven what years were
those 18 something and and they told their stories through the music
they had no words and I'm gonna tell you I went to a fucking classical concert with a friend of
mine we was working out together and we had a bet and I lost a bet so she was like you got to come
to a classical concert with me I went to a classical concert with her at the Hollywood Bowl
and they didn't sing one fucking word and all while they was doing the music, she said next to me,
yeah, this is the part where he kills his father.
And I'm like, how the fuck do you know that?
And he ain't said a motherfucking word.
Then later on, I looked over at her.
She was crying like a motherfucker.
I'm like, what's going on?
This is the part where he dies.
This is the same shit they was playing when I walked in.
How do you know?
Did you play Beethoven's Fifth Symphony?
You have to have a different ear to listen to that.
Yeah.
I was just thinking the opera, though, was the difference.
Just play Beethoven's Fifth Symphony.
Pre-opera.
Pre-opera.
Classical.
Just instrumentation.
Play Beethoven's Fifth because what I want to get at is that, like,
I feel like I never got Grateful Dead.
I know people love it, but I never got it for whatever reason.
I'm missing that gene.
I was into Leonard Skinner.
I was into all kinds of shit.
Leonard Skinner.
I went on tour with the motherfuckers for about two months.
But listen to this.
this fucking madman figured out how to compose music when there had been no music composed how much shit had been before him i don't know but how much shit sounded like this i'm gonna
say none of it nothing because it exists now to this day i i can say in 2021 beethoven's fifth
and you know what I'm talking about.
When I hear this music, you know what I think about?
A fucking cartoon in the 70s.
Some little cartoon.
It always had shit like this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah, it was always trumpets.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Looney Tunes.
Harps and shit.
Yeah.
Guess when it was composed.
When?
1790.
1808.
Wow. That was close. Yeah. That was pretty good. 1790. 1808. Wow.
That was close.
Yeah.
That was pretty good.
Opera was 1500s.
Wow.
I was thinking in my head it was microphones.
You couldn't sing louder than this, so you'd have to be louder.
So that's why they had those people, those bellowing voices.
Yelling as loud as they possibly could.
No magnification.
Right.
The echo was in the room.
Yeah. Yeah, was in the room.
Yeah, it was the shape.
That special microphone.
This one? Once you get a special microphone like that,
then you can hear words.
Oh, like this one? Yeah.
What about a special mic like the motherfucking mic I came up in this bitch with?
Bitch Snoop Dogg on the
Joe Rogan Experience.
It is!
That's the perfect mic, too.
It's got LEDs.
It's lit up.
Are we on joint number six?
I done went through two packs, man.
It's going to be my last one, Joe.
Yeah, I'm just sitting back here.
I smoked one.
I had to roll one for the finale.
I had three hits an hour and a half ago, and I'm still nervous.
It's for the finale.
It's for the finale. Jamie done got 19 and hour and a half ago and I'm still nervous. It's for the finale. It's for the finale.
Jamie done got
19 and a lot
worth of secondhand smoke
over this
just standing around him
like a bodyguard.
Just the fact that you have
three phones running
with no
no screen dimmer
is amazing.
I'm gonna dim it for you Joe.
I'm gonna turn it down.
No you don't have to dim it man.
I'm happy you're out there.
I don't give a fuck.
Keep that thing on.
Keep it on.
I don't care.
I'm happy you're out there.
You make me feel happy.
You really do.
I'm so glad there's people like you out there.
I'm glad to keep it moving.
I know, Snoop, but it's hard.
I always compare your kind of level of fame to, like, a reentry from a spaceship.
It's like, how much pressure can you take?
Can you survive reentry?
Because you get shot up in the stratosphere.
Right.
And no one's designed to be as famous as Snoop Dogg is.
It's not natural.
It's not normal.
So when a guy like you is that famous and comes out of it so smooth and smiley and happy
And I'm like you might be the greatest of all time
At dealing with celebrity, and I'm not bullshitting wow you know I had a relationship with Muhammad Ali
That's that's you know I mean he was also as a boxer as a greatest of all time
You know, I mean, he was also, as a boxer, one of the greatest of all time.
That guy sacrificed three years of his fucking career because he didn't want to kill people in Vietnam.
As a kid, he was the greatest to me and everybody around me.
And Bruce Lee was right behind him.
My parents were hippies.
Oh, wow. And my parents did not watch boxing.
But they wanted me to watch Muhammad Ali try to win his title back from Leon Spinks.
Wow.
I was living in San Francisco.
We were living-
Leon only had two teeth.
Rest in peace, Leon.
Yeah.
I think he had six or seven, but point taken.
But he beat Muhammad Ali in the first fight.
Ali didn't train for him, underestimated him, and and Leon Spinks and it was also like Ali had
been through the goddamn ringer he'd been through Joe Frazier he had been through George Foreman
he'd been through so much oh so broke his jaw he'd been through so much so that Ali of that time was
like it was hard to get Ali up for a big fight. And he didn't get up for a small fight, and he wound up losing the title.
And Leon Spinks, who was the brother of the light heavyweight champion, Michael Spinks, who was the jinx, who was one of the greatest light heavyweights of all time.
He fucked up when he went heavyweight into Mike Tyson's lane.
It's a mistake.
He used to fight at 175.
He was the shit at that level.
They were too big.
But the money was also too big, so took a chance and he found out but my parents who were hippies made me watch
muhammad ali versus leon spinks because it wasn't about the abc why world of sports howard
cosel exactly it was it was about this guy who stood against the Vietnam War.
That's what it was about.
He stood up for living.
He stood up for, this is what he said,
no Viet Cong ever did shit to me.
That's what he said, basically.
He said, why am I killing them?
I don't have any beef with these people.
Why am I going over there?
America done more wrong to me than Vietnam.
And history has proven him to be correct.
Because the whole reason for getting into that war was something called the Gulf of Tonkin incident,
which was a false flag, which means the government pretended that we got attacked by the North Vietnamese.
But we didn't.
It was bullshit.
And my father had to go over there and serve time in Vietnam.
He did, I think, two years, and he made it out of there.
And thank God he made it out of there because this is before I was even thought of.
This was in the late 60s, and I was born in 71.
So if he don't make it out of there, I don't get here.
I'm so happy that you got here, but I'm so unhappy that there was ever a situation
where people maybe who would
have also contributed didn't get here
because their family died
over there. Their daddy died over there.
For nothing. For nothing.
For nothing. Do you know what my dad told me?
He said, the life expectancy
for a black man
in Vietnam in 1968
was 16.4
seconds.
What?
16.4 seconds.
So the moment you get out there, 16 seconds later, you're dead.
Check this out.
They're getting there on the helicopter.
On the helicopter land, naturally,
they're probably going to make the black soldiers.
This is 68, monolith the king got
killed or right around the time naturally black guys y'all go first y'all walking on landmines
and then once the shooting starts guess who's shooting at you from the back the white southern
soldiers who don't like black people who now you're being shot at from the front and the back
and you're stepping on landmines, and you possibly could become a POW,
and you really don't have no good training
because you really never been around guns,
and you're a teenager, and they just throw you in the war.
So this is what my people had to go through.
These are those stories that are not told
that people like me made it out of
because my dad was blessed enough to get out of there.
Now you see why I'm a survivor now, right?
Yeah.
That's the thing about this country.
It's like we all want to praise patriotism.
We want to say we're in this together.
But then you think about the things the very military has done,
the way they've done it,
the way they've, like, brought people together in the worst of ways
to fight for a war that doesn't make any
sense and then it makes you angry my dad was over there when mona the king got killed so imagine
how the black soldiers felt when that happened you know what i'm saying and this is this is this is
it's still no segregation it's still living the way they was living that shit didn't kick into like
70 71 when it was the hippie era where it was like get that shit out of here white people black
people we all getting along we don't know what the fuck y'all was brought up on yeah i love people i
love weed i love good music and i love to have fun and i'm raising my kids to love people that
happened in our era to set was you born, 61?
67.
I was born in 70.
So by the time you was able to walk and run and play,
your parents was full-on hippies, and I was just being born.
And that's the era that I came up in.
I come up in the hippie era.
That's why I'm so full of love because of the way I was brought up.
I was brought up in that era where I had Mexican friends, Asian friends,
white friends, and friends, white friends,
and all sorts of friends, and I knew their mother, they knew my mother,
and it was like they didn't give a fuck about what your race and nationality was.
If they can keep us divided by race and nationality,
then we won't pay attention to the fact that it's really divided by class
and by government.
That's what happens.
When they get people squabbling about who's white and who's black
and who's red and who's blue and who wants affirmative action
and who doesn't and who wants universal basic income
and who doesn't.
Here's what I want.
I want everybody to live a better life.
Thank you.
Across the board.
How about it?
And if you don't start looking at the lowest economic rung
and say before we deal with all the bullshit that's happening
and whatever subject you want,
if we're a team, if we're Team America,
and we don't take care of the people
that are in the lowest economic rung of the ladder,
they're clearly stuck.
They're in a bad spot. They got a bad roll of the dice. We in the lowest economic rung of the ladder. They're clearly stuck.
They're in a bad spot.
They got a bad roll of the dice.
We got to even that out.
Look, we're as strong as our weakest link.
But here's what's weird.
You want to know what's weird?
Talk to me.
When a person comes out of that and emerges, they're super powered.
Like if you get yourself a Marvinvin haggler you know right if you get yourself a mike tyson yeah comes out of brownsville like there's like it's not good
it's not good it's wrong it's all bad in every way but when he emerges he emerges fucking nuclear
powered man yeah and then we all talk about him for era. Like, for eras and eras. Like, to this day, we're still talking about Jack Johnson.
Because that was a bad motherfucker.
That was a bad motherfucker.
Fight four people in one night, then drive off with any woman he want?
Yeah.
Jack Johnson was a motherfucker.
I'm waiting to see if they're going to make his movie.
It's so overdue.
Well, they did that Ken Burns documentary.
Did you ever see that?
He need a movie.
A movie.
Motion picture.
Who would paint?
Shaq.
Shaquille O'Neal.
Get his ass back on the phone, Shaq.
You're Jack Johnson.
Here's the thing.
He's way too big, but for the way people are today versus the way people are then, it almost makes sense.
It do.
They called him the Galveston Giant, but I think he was only like six foot two.
But that was big back then.
It was giant back then.
No one had food.
Stoop, no one had food.
Wow.
I read that if you go back to 1860, the average American male weighed 130 pounds.
It was a cap out.
We were starving.
And it was families.
Like, back then, people made families yep like because i know my
mother's family had eight brothers and my father's family got 13 brothers yeah how tall was jack
johnson six foot why did he look like he's six foot because everyone was so little Six foot He was the Galveston Giant
At six foot tall
Now imagine
Tyson Fury is six foot nine
He would have fucking
Andre the Giant probably would have been like
He's six nine
He would have been like
King Kong get him motherfuckers
If he'd have woke up
Tyson Fury
Like this is like
Everybody
Like you need to look at what creates a great fighter.
Struggle.
Right.
That guy came from, he was a gypsy.
He's the gypsy king.
Like, a real gypsy.
Like, they travel around in caravans, which are basically like Winnebago's.
They're in trailers.
They live in trailers.
And he's the king.
He's six foot nine.
Let's go. Xerxes. He's 6'9". Let's go.
Xerxes.
He's Xerxes.
Yeah.
It's like that's a version of Xerxes.
Right.
That version from that era. The fact that Deontay Wilder put everybody else in orbit.
Everybody else.
Everybody he fought, he put them in orbit.
He eventually connected.
Didn't matter.
Cuban Olympic team member, fuck you,
blam.
Everybody's going to sleep.
And he caught Tyson.
He caught him in the 12th rockin' round
of that first fight.
The 12th round.
He hit him with a right hand
and a left hook behind it,
and Tyson was flat out on his back.
He caught him in the last fight he lost.
Yep.
Caught him twice.
Maybe had him hurt worse than he had him hurt in the 12th round of the first fight.
The thing that I noticed, and nobody was, they thought I was being funny,
but if you look at Wilder's legs, they don't have any support to what he's pushing.
His legs look like mine.
Like, where's Khalifa legs bigger than his?
So you got to get that leg day and it should be all
leg day all core and leg day because up top from the waist up he on deck but from the waist down
he got to get stronger he has a certain vulnerability in that he can knock anyone's
lights out if he connects but if he's forced to move in odd ways, he struggles. You didn't see his legs, though.
No, I did.
Yeah.
So what'd you think?
100%.
You're right.
Like, Tyson Fury, one of the things about him is he'll stutter-step a lot.
He'll, like, do this.
His feet work was amazing.
It's amazing.
And he's strong.
He's got a strong core to where your cuz knocked him out, but he was so strong to where it took too much.
The thing is, like, just because you're fat doesn't mean you're weak.
Right.
You got to realize that.
Right.
And people look at a fat guy, he's got back fat.
I think it's part of the hustle.
Because if he can show up-
Yeah.
Because he can show up and stare at you with his gut hanging out and know he's going to
fuck you up.
That's some wild confidence, man.
I like how he used his reach.
to fuck you up that's some wild confidence i like how he used his reach but if you're a guy who's ripped and shredded and you you think about it a lot and a guy who's already fucked you up he's got
he's got like belly fat back fat and he's 40 pounds heavier than the last time you seen him
and he still fucks you up again you knock him down you hit him with your best shot he gets up and you up
he's he's he's more skillful fighter you know what it is he started out his career as a boxer and then in the 12th round of the first fight with deontay wilder he became a slugger right
because he realized once he had deontay on his back and he had him on his heels, he had him back it up, he could fuck him up.
It's after Deontay almost knocked him out.
It's killer instinct, though.
You know that.
It is, but it's also like he figured something out and he realized that Deontay has this insane amount of power going forward.
But not backwards.
Not as much.
Why?
If you can let him plan himself like you do with Luis Ortiz.
You're in trouble. Yeah, you're in trouble in trouble he hits dudes on the forehead and they go night
night to this day to this day to this day you know that was my friend radio
Raheem that did that yeah that interview to this day yeah he was just trying to
get Deontay to expand upon his thoughts to this day he he didn't know Deontay was gonna get mad at him.
He was just like,
yeah, I'm with you.
And then he realized,
oh my God,
he's talking to me.
That's that boxer's mentality.
Either you're with me
or you're against me.
Exactly.
Deontay was angry.
Have any boxers
got upset at you
for commentary?
Nah, not really because you know, they know I got squabbling on me, so.
When they come with that shit they talking, I'm like,
but it's still on them first, then have my security clean them up.
Go wash his face.
Take him in the bathroom and wash his face.
Get him back right.
No, I'm cool with everybody, man.
They know Snoop Dogg is a fun-spirited dude,
and I respect everybody's craft.
And they know that's what comes with the territory.
If they came to see me perform and I didn't perform as good as I was supposed to
or missed my lines or fell off stage or did something that was unorthodox,
they got the right to say that.
That's what we were talking about earlier as far as that tough skin
to be able to take the criticism.
Anytime you get in the professional field, criticism and skepticism comes with it.
You know what I think would make $1 billion?
What?
Donald Trump versus Joe Biden in an MMA fight.
Oh, wow.
It got to be a one-round, 15-second fight
because I don't know if old smoking Joe can last that long.
No rounds. UFC one style.
I'm putting my money on Trump because I like Trump's beard.
Who, Joe?
You mean old Joe?
Trump going to talk him.
He going to talk him out of most of it.
I wonder who we're going to come off first, though.
That's the real question.
That's a good point.
When are we going to have a president again
that we actually like?
Is there anybody out there?
Probably going to have to be a robot.
Probably going to have to be a robot.
Yeah, we fuck with all our robots.
That motherfucker cool.
Exactly.
Something that we all can agree on.
Yeah, it'll have to be. We We're gonna decide that people can't run shit
We have egos
We get in each other's way
Let the robot run it
The robots are not gonna run it
Per se
They're just gonna run like the municipalities
And they're gonna take care of the sewage system
And the power
Yeah yeah yeah Listen and they're going to take care of the sewage system and the power. They'll be the face.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, being the face.
Listen, let me ease your concerns.
A robot is not your mayor, okay?
A robot is a facilitator of all the services that we need
to have a beautiful, cohesive society.
Your mayor is a trans woman or whatever it's just
gonna be about the people yeah but it should be about let the people have they
say and feel like it's about them because that's the world we're living in
right now we really not living up under nobody's rules everybody basically
living in what they want and they putting a lot of peace and love in the
air because I just think back to a time when my grandparents
and great-grandparents were around, and they couldn't do certain things,
and now people are doing a lot of things together,
and we move so far past from where we were to where we're at,
and I just think it's just going to keep evolving.
And the generation right now, they're all about love.
The kids, they love each other, and they love to know.
they all about love the kids they love each other and they love to know if we can keep that as an ethic we can get through all this bullshit you know
that's the thing about society like and what you do whether you're doing
commentary or what you do when you're rapping or when you're on roasts are
you talking shit and having fun like we, we have to recognize that, like, wait, that's not, it's not,
you're having fun.
Yeah.
That's, like, it doesn't mean you're mean.
You're not being mean.
You're trying to have fun.
That's it.
That's all.
That's it.
That's all.
That was my mission, Joe, to come out here and to see you get on this podcast,
break off some gifts till you smoke one or two or three or
four or five with you, play some good music, you know, chop it up, share some good stories,
and just show camaraderie of two men who love what they do. Plus, I got a really nice chain.
Look at that. I don't have anything like this. It's very nice. Def Jam, tell them who I am.
Man, I thank you for letting me come on man
this has been beautiful it was an honor it was fun i think we had a good time i had a great time
definitely was too high in the beginning when it was off and running i was like whoa this is
dangerous i felt like a dude who was like uh i was skiing and i fell and i just kept going down
the hill
but I saw some trees
in the distance.
I'm like,
damn,
I hope I can stop
before I hit these fucking trees.
I was too high.
Yeah,
you know,
skis and black folks
don't deserve each other
so I would never be out there with you.
The highest I've ever been on podcast
is Wiz Khalifa.
That was a rough one.
Who else?
Well, a bunch of them.
But this one.
Yeah, we in a planet Snoop it up right now.
So we're in a whole nother dimension.
You know, planets beyond their reach.
No one can get to where we at.
Do you do any kind of podcast or anything like that?
The GGN is my thing where I created a, where I be doing the, watching the animals and shit
and doing little voiceovers for that shit.
You watch animals?
What do you mean?
Yeah, show him the GGN.
Pull up on them GGNs.
I done had Larry King and all types of motherfuckers come on my show.
Larry King was a nice guy.
He was amazing.
He really is a sweet guy.
He was. We switched roles on my show. He was amazing. He really is a sweet guy. He was.
We switched roles on my show.
He was me and I was him.
You got it.
And I heard that theme.
With the animals.
Seth Rogen.
Yeah.
Sorry for the.
See my podcast with GGM.
This is just like highlights of him.
Oh, okay.
Different people.
I was just kind of skipping through.
What was the goal of the show when you started?
To be a hit.
To, you know, to be on the air for some years.
And, you know, to get the adjust of the show across to people.
What was that?
Martin Lawrence.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what?
I don't know who you're talking to
oh
Mario Lopez
Mario Lopez
I told him
I said every time
I'm in a fucking hotel
I see you all goddamn day
yes
those Vegas hotels
goddamn
so is Mario Lopez
talking about new movies
yeah
new movie coming out this week
like mother fuck
I see you more
than I see myself
nah but
you know hey that's what I do on the side.
GG.
We coming back.
Got some new episodes coming out.
Oh, yeah, me and her, Kathy.
She was amazing.
Who was that?
What was the first person we had on that?
You showed, Jamie?
And what else after that?
Right, Martin.
That's what it was.
Dude, I used to have to follow Martin Lawrence at the comedy
store when he was in his prime you had to go after him Snoop let me tell you something the lady who
ran the comedy store her name was Mitzi Shore and she was a genius Polly's mama exactly yeah she was
a genius and she in 1994 when I first came to California, like, Comedy Store was mecca.
Like, I was out here for a TV show.
My album was knocking in 94.
94.
I was just getting started.
In 94, when I came out here,
there was one goal if you were a comedian.
That was be a paid regular at the Comedy Store.
So I had a TV show.
But I was like, I got to be a fucking paid regular at the comedy store. So I had a TV show, but I was like, I gotta be a fucking paid regular
at the comedy store.
And I came out here
and eventually became a paid regular
at the comedy store.
That was all Mitzi Shore.
That was this one lady.
She was Pauly's mom.
What was my point?
What were we just talking about?
Martin Lawrence.
You had to get on after him.
So Mitzi was a,
she would throw you to the wolves.
So if she liked you, she would throw you to the wolves. So if she liked you, she would throw you to the wolves.
So Martin Lawrence was in his prime.
I mean, the leather jumpsuit days.
Dude, let me tell you something.
I was 26, 27 years old, whatever the fuck I was.
I wasn't even that good.
I was like barely passable as a comedian.
And I would have to go on stage after Martin Lawrence murdered.
There was the You So Crazy days.
He would erupt that place.
The main room would be 350 people just falling on the ground laughing.
And then I would have to go on afterwards.
I bombed.
I must have bombed 26 times in a row
following Martin
she got you right
Missy knew what she was doing
she knew what she was doing
but the point was
I said it
I've said it on this podcast
like a hundred times
Martin Lawrence
is one of the most
underappreciated
stand-ups ever
wow
cause he just stopped
he kinda stopped doing it
but when you saw him
in those 90's
like the You so crazy days
dude he was a monster he was killing them def jam comedy special he was a monster he would walk on
stage and you wanted to laugh the moment you saw him he had you yes he had you yes and he would
just smash engage smash find somebody in the audience off. I would go on after him and just eat shit.
Thank you, Martin, for getting Joe where he's supposed to be at, man.
Oh, my God.
He helped me so much.
He has no idea.
But he helped me realize, like, you better be way funnier than you are.
Yeah.
You better be way better than you are. Thank you, good.
You better be great.
You better be.
You've got to come out of the gate guns blazing to make up for this sort of situation.
Oh, my goodness.
What are these?
Those are yours.
Premium nutrients.
What are premium nutrients?
Open it up.
That's another gift.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
That's my parting gift.
You know, when you leave a game show and parting gifts.
Hold on, please. I'm going to roll me up one and give you a parting gift you know when you leave a game show and parting gifts gonna roll me up one and give you a parting gift
yeah Snoop this has been a magical day for me more for me I've enjoyed every
minute of it I wasn't legit nervous about this podcast come on man come on
man I'm just being honest I was a fan of yours podcast come on man come on man I'm just
being honest I was a fan of yours a long time ago that's when I could barely pay
my rent this shit came out dope that was good that's one of the weirdest things
for me about podcasts and all the other shit I've done it's like getting to meet
people I close in person well yeah and people that I used to buy their shit.
That's what my podcast is about.
When I had all the people on there, it was only about motherfuckers that I always wanted to sit down and talk to.
Yeah.
And I'd be on there smoking with them and chilling, making them feel comfortable.
Never asking them about controversy.
Oh, my God.
This smells so good.
You see what it is? Yeah. It's got that glass tip on it too. It smells amazing.
It smells like I'm gonna learn something about myself. And I put that glass tip on you so you got that professional. I like it.
Yeah, I wish I was slightly less drunk so I could talk better.
You're doing fine Joe, you're doing fine. As are you. You're doing fine, Joe. You're doing fine.
As are you.
You're doing fine.
On the way out, I want to say to all the people that's watching and listening,
appreciate all the love and the support.
Amen.
It's an honor and a pleasure to be in front of real people.
It's a treat when players meet.
Joe Rogan, appreciate you for letting me come on and do my thing.
Amen.
I could have been anywhere. I could have been in Dallas. do my thing. I mean, I could have been anywhere.
I could have been in Dallas.
I could have been in Houston.
I could have been in Galveston.
But I chose to be on the Joe Rogan Show, man.
It's an honor.
I said that at the beginning, and I really meant it.
I think you're an amazing cultural figure, and you're a cool motherfucker,
and you're a shining light and a beacon of love and a friendship and of art and
you're just you're just you move things in the right way and i appreciate you very very much
and i've always appreciated you out from the beginning of your career when i had no idea
there would ever come a time where i'd ever be able to sit across the fucking table for you
with you for six fucking how long was it five three hours
four hours four hours four hours and some change four hours and 20 minutes we're gonna say i've
been full 20 y'all big snoop dogg we've been rocking and rolling rolling and rocking
you motherfucker you hello i'm so high i'm in a time warp. But believe me, my point is, you know, I'm sure you like when you were telling me how you met James Brown.
Yeah.
For me.
Yeah.
That's what it is to meet you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was special.
It's wild.
We sat at a park bench, too.
That's incredible.
So our knees was touching and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
What park?
No, I had one inside of my studio. Oh, yeah it was a green one of them green tell you of your
own Parker so a green picnic park bench you know nice yeah and our knees was
touching like we were sitting that close to where I could feel his knees on mine
I didn't want to move the motherfuckers I was like nigga James Brown knees is on
my
do the splits and shit after that get up get on up get up hey like a sex machine yeah i was uh at a red light one time and uh i had a big big playback playing in my rental car in houston texas and this
uh this girl pulls up beside me and it was like you know right when it's like oh and she's like that's the shit
and she just drove off and i never forgot that this is gonna be the last story i'm gonna get you
and it's about the big payback because i don't know if you know i don't know if you know this
this is some real we play some of that in the background i don't know if you know about this
okay so let me get some background there was a There was a movie called Black Caesar that James Brown did the soundtrack where Pay the Cost to Be the Boss was on there.
So when they got to part two of the movie, it was called Hell Up in Harlem.
For part one, James made long versions of songs and they had no problem with it. When they got to part two, James gave them the big payback,
and they told him, can you cut this down to like two minutes because it's too long?
And James said, I'm not cutting down nothing.
I wrote this for the movie, and it should be this way.
So they said, you know what, if you don't cut it down, we can't use it.
So instead of them using the big payback,
James Brown took the big payback and made that his next album.
So that was originally for Hell Up in Harlem, a Fred Williamson movie.
That's what he wrote this song for.
If you listen to the lyrics, it's about the movie, the big payback.
I like that.
I want to fight.
Yeah, look at that movie.
Go look at Black Caesar.
This is part two.
Can you imagine being in a situation where you're able to do business with James Brown
and you fuck it up?
Thank you.
Thank you.
You should have been like, listen, whatever you want to do, man.
Whatever you, give me a hug, bro.
I'm just so happy to be around you.
Can you cut the song off right here?
No.
If I was working with James Brown, I would
go, my friend, give me
a hug, whatever you want to do.
I want you to be happy. Tell me what makes you happy.
Let's do this shit. Let's do
this shit. I'd hold his hand.
I would hug him. I'd go, whatever you want to do.
I don't want extra money from
you. You're James fucking Brown. You're
one of a kind. Just go ahead.
Go ahead. It was better for James.
It was better for James.
It's better for culture.
It's better for everybody.
Wow.
But see, that's the hidden myth to that song and the story to it.
So now everybody know what it is and where it came from.
You don't get that guy who went on stage in Zaire.
You don't get that without some struggle.
No.
No.
It doesn't happen.
No.
No.
It's not possible.
That's part of his struggle.
It's not possible. No. You wouldn It's not possible. That's part of his struggle. It's not possible.
You wouldn't be that motivated.
Yeah, say that.
I told you he had 16 splits for George Clinton when he asked him.
That's insane.
But you just don't know if you just, it's hard to go back in time
and put it in the perspective of the time when he released this album.
This is like a cultural shifting moment.
And it would have been bigger if it was on the movie.
It would have been bigger for the movie, not for him.
Not for him.
The movie, nobody knows about.
Everybody knows this song.
Dustin Poirier, when he comes out to fight, he comes out to this song. When he beat Conor McGregor, he came out to this song.
That's all I'm saying. I hope I'm right.
This song just got so much significance to when you do lose and you coming back,
or any time you sort of get back or pay back.
Make sure that I'm correct about that. I feel vulnerable.
I feel like my facts are slippery.
The boss.
The boss.
Yeah, that's it, right?
That's it.
Paid the cost to be the boss.
Oh, that's the first movie.
I knew he came out to James Brown.
Damn, I fucked it up.
Glad I corrected it.
I felt vulnerable there.
Paid the cost.
Snoop.
Joe.
This has been an honor and a privilege.
And let's do more of these.
And tell everybody, your new album is out on the 19th.
November 19th.
Algorithm.
Snoop Dogg.
And there's so much talent on the album.
There's so many different features on there.
It's a Def Jam situation.
Y'all make sure y'all go on there. It's a Def Jam situation.
Y'all make sure y'all go get it.
I got a couple of videos and singles out right now.
Big Sub Woofer, which is Mount Westmore.
Murder Music featuring Jadakiss,
Bitty the Butcher, and Busta Rhymes.
And then we just finna hit you upside the head all year long, so stay tuned, stay locked and loaded.
The date comes out.
We'll definitely let everybody know
on Instagram and all that.
That's it right there.
Snoop Dogg.
Algorithm.
How fun was this?
It's the Joe Rogan experience, man.
And I left you some...
That was fun.
I left you some...
Artifacts?
Yeah, man.
I'm gonna take some photos.
Like, motherfuckers don't know.
They don't know what that...
Man, I gotta get a photo of that right now, man.
I should put that in resin.
You should.
Like, if we just take that and seal it in clear plastic where you don't move it.
The day Snoop Dogg came by.
Okay, we're going to do that.
We're going to freeze that pad and all those poor lost tobacco leaves.
One day when someone's going to smoke me...
Nope.
Nope.
Give me a coffee table for the other room.
I'm just going to peel you out of your skin and use you for blunts on a podcast.
That went from seed to nothingness.
There's no reason for that.
It's waste.
Everybody wants to talk about all kinds of waste.
Plastic bottles.
What's that?
Flavor.
Flavor for what?
Blunt.
But the inside of it it that doesn't flavor it
soaking in there what are you he's a fucking tobacco supporter i have to check jamie's uh
sponsors yeah see when you post shit like this on instagram and just let that shit just live
would you post the picture of that?
Yeah, if it went through. Let me see if it went through.
And then I'll put your name on there.
Don't you feel uncomfortable,
Jamie? Like you're in the room
with Snoop? You feel odd?
I know.
Right at home.
No internet connection.
What's going on? It's got to have a Wi-Fi.
What's the Wi-Fi in here?
Well, I would tell you, but we are still doing the podcast.
Okay, we're still on the air.
So how about I try no Wi-Fi?
Let's close this out.
You want to close it?
Yeah.
What are we at now, four hours?
Thank you, everybody, for tuning in.
Thank you, Snoop Dogg
thank you Jamie
thank you
listeners and viewers
see
that's it
posted
posted
on Instagram live
and in the moment
so when you listen to the podcast
go to Snoop's Instagram
and you can say
the moment that he posted that
that's the
moment when it ended so it'll be up later tomorrow yeah you always say you got an intro
and you got an endo yes and that was the end
i like that goodbye everybody see you bye bye my bitch Goodbye, everybody. See you. Bye-bye. Bye, bitch.