The Joe Rogan Experience - #1741 - Ted Nugent

Episode Date: November 30, 2021

Ted Nugent is a singer-songwriter, outdoorsman, and political activist. His newest single, "Come and Take It," is out now.

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. The two important heroes. Somebody gave me this recently. Check that out. Oh, the real McCoy? That's the real McCoy. Yeah. They find these on my property outside of Waco.

They're all over the place in Texas. I mean, this land was occupied for a long time by Native Americans. Think it's obsidian? I don't know what it's made out of. I don't know much about rocks, but it's something special about holding one of those, isn't it? Always. I killed a goose with a Port Orford cedar arrow, real natural turkey feathers feathers built by George Nichols at Jackson Archery in the 30s, the arrows, the head I found on the Rouge River in Detroit, and I was shooting a U longbow. I might have been eight.

So you found a Native American arrowhead and you use a 1930s wooden arrow with real turkey feathers. High-profile shield cut that George Nichols made, who I eventually got to hunt with, who made all of Fred Bear's arrows. There's much mojo that emits from my spirit because I've been in such unique environments. But anyhow, I went to the— what was the name of the cemetery? Wildwood Cemetery on Grand River and Six Mile Road in Detroit, right off the Rouge River. There's a cemetery there. And the geese always landed in the ponds and the little cricks that ran off the Rouge River. And I snuck in there with my cousin, Mark Schmidt. And I still have that U-wood longbow. I ended up putting electric tape around it because it started to split a little bit from 1955,

maybe. And there was some Canadian geese on a pond. And we snuck in almost like Ishii, like org from the year three and sneaking in through the reeds and the nasty shit and i drew back and shot that goose and it flopped all around but we got that goose ran to the fence climbed over the fence and took it home i i think it's amazing but i would feel so nervous to lose one of those heads there's something about those heads like i don't think you're supposed there's a lot of places where you're not supposed to pick them up which i find very bizarre be very bizarre. Yeah. When I was in Nevada, we were hunting mule deer. I was with Steve Rinella, and I found one there. And they informed me that you're not supposed to pick it up.

Huh. What man has the authority to tell you that? I don't understand. Well, I think the idea is that it's an artifact and that you're supposed to just leave it there, which I don't understand because either I'm allowed to pick it up and it should go to some sort of museum or something. I don't know where they would keep them. I would like to think that-

But to leave it there. Hand-me-downs continue the mojo, pass the mojo on. Don't you think the mojo handed from hand to hand from generation to generation would have more spirit div production spirit productivity than leaving it on what they might call sacred grounds yeah i mean the native americans some native american folks have had a real problem people picking up artifacts and and claiming them as their. I think that's the issue with it. But for me, I mean, we were on a bow hunting trip and to find an arrow and to know that someone, some Native American had been in that same area hundreds and hundreds of years

ago and, you know, hunting for their food to feed their family in that same ground. And then I had picked up a part of their weapon. It was pretty amazing. Well, it might not be historical artifact, but I come bearing gifts. You've got a lot of stuff. I come bearing gifts. What do you got there? Come and take it?

I brought you this. They have one at the exact, oh, it's signed. Except this one's autographed. Yeah, all right. I like it. They have one just like that at the range in Austin signed by our governor. Let's put that. And I also, just because I ran out of the garage with them, also a come and take it

hat. Oh. Come and take it hat sign. Also a very Joe Rogan I will not comply autographed hat. Oh, nice. And the reason I'm grabbing these is because it's a great story. This is a great story in my life. You can have that one. And then reelect that motherfucker hat. And the reason I'm grabbing these is because it's a great story. This is a great story in my life. You can have that one. I'm going to re-elect that motherfucker hat.

And this is a Ted Nugent Sunrise Safari's Will Hunt for Food. And because I gave these to my grandkids over the holidays, this is so important. I don't know if you carry a flashlight with you, but starting today you will. This little browning flashlight from my buddy george britain

at britain's archery in tarpon springs florida it is so bright and then when you're going to your stand in the morning oh you got a green one too so you don't double it up nice and then this will go super bright middle and low that's amazing that it's that bright and so small i use it 10 times a day when we came to the studio earlier, I had to show Jeff where the lock was. 360 lumens. That's a lot. For a little tiny thing like that. I used to carry a big-ass flashlight in my pocket.

And it clips onto your pants with that little clip on the back. Or your hat when you wear a cap. Oh, right, yeah. Yeah, I wear one of those when I go into the woods. So Merry Christmas, Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Birthday. These are enough gifts for our next four or five years if we don't run into each other again. I like it. Thanks very much.

Appreciate it. So my first opening volley. Okay. Most important thing. Joe, how are you? I'm good. How are you, Ted? You seem good.

Thank you. You seem good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. You're healthy. You're happy. You're focused. You got good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. You're healthy. You're happy. You're focused.

You got a samurai thing going on. Yes, everything's good. I'm very happy. That's all I wanted to know. A samurai thing? What do you mean? Well, supreme focus. Oh, okay.

Dedication to being oneness with any given endeavor. And obviously, if you're arrowing elk with Cameron and hunting with Steve Rinella, that's what I call the samurai touch with nature. Those guys live that stuff. You live that stuff. I live that stuff. So I want to make sure you're feeling good. I'm feeling good.

Yeah, very fortunate to know those guys. To be able to have a mentor like my first mentor, Steve Rinella, to be able to have that guy take me out hunting for the first time. Yes, Michigan boy. Great, great tradition in Michigan. So what do you got in this pot here? That's coffee, sir. Can I have a slug of that? There you go.

Let me slug of that. Black coffee. So I bring you positive spirit and energy and attitude and goodwill and decency. I'm having the greatest hunting season of my life. I'm shooting some mystical arrows into some sacred pump stations. I'm getting a lot of venison donated to soup kitchens and homeless shelters and neighbors and making gifts to the band and the crew since we haven't toured and everybody is horny

to unleash the musical beast. Yeah, that is a beautiful thing about that, a Hunters for the Hungry program. Beautiful, nationwide. It's incredible. I do media all the time, and the hunting thing always comes up. Of course. And if they don't bring it up, I make sure I do because it needs time, and the hunting thing always comes up. Of course.

And if they don't bring it up, I make sure I do, because it needs to be promoted and celebrated in the face of stupidity, which, boy, do I have a great story for you. You're going to, I don't know, you're going to love this. You already love me, but you're going to love me more in a moment. Really? Yes. Let me prepare myself.

So anyhow, when I do the media and I explain to them about venison, So anyhow, when I do the media and I explain to them about venison, organic, renewable, nutritious, pure, natural, healthy, good, good, win, win, win, win, win, I never get any pushback. Not since the 60s and 70s where hippies pushed back. Because it's universally at least understood in its most basic truism. Yeah. But whenever I bring up that the Hunters for the Hungry has been going on, Hunters for the Hungry, Sportsmen Against Hunger, various state organizations where they distribute natural harvested surplus venison to homeless shelters, soup kitchens, needy families. Even to Glenn Beck, he goes, 250 million hot meals a year?

Come on, that can't be true. And I go, well, you got Ted Nugent talking to you. If it's coming out of my mouth, it's true. I do research. I don't have opinions. I have facts. I have evidence. 250 million meals?

250 million pure, nutritious meals of venison. How many animals is that? That's crazy. I mean, obviously you kill animals. Tens of millions. Many, many, many meals. Yes, nationwide. But is that pigs as well, or is it just?

No, elk, deer, mostly deer, probably 90% deer. Not many people donate elk meat. No, I donate to friends friends but i have to love them dearly well i i'm a generous loving guy but i keep the back straps okay i'm generous but i'm not an idiot yeah well the roasts are pretty damn good too um i have played on this podcast multiple times you uh shooting pigs out of a helicopter so beautiful it's talking about samurai but it's it's a crazy thing that like people that don't understand will look at that and go, this is horrible.

This is awful. It's like, you don't understand invasive species. You don't understand the fact that this actually has to be done. And if you're a person that likes to eat vegetables, guess what? They're going to eat them all. They're going to destroy them all. They need to do something about these animals, and there's no way you can stop them from breeding.

There's millions of pigs in Texas alone. Tens of millions. millions yeah if i may put the definitive comment on that yeah please do if you have a problem with killing pigs from a helicopter you're an idiot and let me help fix you because we're all idiots at some point in life because we don't know nothing there's ignorance and i've been ignorant i'm currently ignorant on how to weld. I need to learn that. But I admit my ignorance so that I don't fuck up a weld. I get a guy who's not ignorant about welding. So let me fix the ignorant out there and see if I can't weld some intelligence into their otherwise craving mind for information. When we kill pigs from a helicopter, it benefits the environment because they destroy the environment. They erode everything and it causes devastation to waterways and riverine habitat and just every habitat.

So we're saving the environment. So shut up. We're saving agriculture because they destroy tens of millions of dollars of agriculture every year. So we're saving agriculture. I think that's just in Texas. Just Texas, not to mention California and Mississippi. agriculture every year so we're saving that i think that's just in texas yeah just just texas not to mention california yeah all over the mississippi and so when we when we kill pigs from a helicopter we have created an industry that i legalized before i called then governor

perry and then attorney general greg abbott it was your idea the helicopter thing yeah it was against the law you couldn't pay a helicopter pilot to shoot pigs. Only government agents were allowed to do it in Texas. I know that sounds like a New York law, but it was in Texas. And when my buddy Johnson said, well, you can't pay me for gas, I go, well, it's got to be expensive. The helicopter cross-collateralization, I can't pay you. And the game warden go, I hope you're not paying him to do that. And I go, well, who are you?

How could you possibly think you have the authority to determine whether I pay for the gas in a helicopter as I go up and shoot pigs? Where do you? Well, that's the law. So the law was you couldn't pay for it? You couldn't pay for it. Why? Is it like a prostitution thing?

Don't ask why. Because sex is free. Why isn't Hillary in prison? You couldn't pay for it. Why? Is it like a prostitution thing? Don't ask why. Right. Because sex is free. Why isn't Hillary in prison? I mean, why isn't she in prison? That's my point. That's a good question. The why question is eternal.

Anyhow. Right. So I called Governor Perry and I said, Rick, you've got to be kidding me because everybody knows that wild hogs in Texas are an absolute scourge of a liability. You're craving systems by which we can reduce the population, and then you make the most effective solution illegal. He goes, I had no idea. I'm like, well, the guitar player will help. Now, I need to call Greg Abbott. So on the hunt was Chris Kobach, who happens to be a constitutional attorney, really a wise one, a really super one, right up there with Cruz.

And so he Googled the laws, and he rewrote them at the camp, at the helicopter camp. We're slamming hogs from the helicopter. We're saving farmers money. We're saving the environment. We're saving wildlife because hogs kill everything they can finally run into, whether it's eggs or fawns. And they're delicious. And pigs are delicious. That's why we created Hogs for a Cause charity, where we pick up the dead hogs,

we process this organic pork, and we feed soup kitchens and homeless shelters. So don't you see it's win-win-win-win-win? Everything is good. There's nothing bad about it. Well, it's not sport. Well, then you share with me your last helicopter hog hunt where you hit the pigs every time from a moving helicopter and an erratically running hog. Shut the fuck up. Anyhow, so after we called Abbott and Perry and Chris Kobach, these guys

are attorneys and I don't hold it against them. They rewrote it. Two weeks later, it was legal. And here's the next win. We created an enormous new industry that is generating tens of millions of dollars for travel, hotels, groceries, ammo, sporting goods, taxidermists, ice, beer, guides, outfitters, helicopter owners. So it's win, win, win, win. So I'll go back to my opening statement. If you're against this completely conclusively definitively win situation for everything, you're an idiot. Now take the information I just shared with you and try to eliminate your idiocy. Now, I know you're going to listen to me. This is the most important thing we're going to talk about today. I had a great time with you in LA and we talked about stuff and I

talked about a vegan diet, a vegan diet. You corrected me. I called it vegan. You said vegan. My son is one. And I said, well, don't you know, if you really wanted to kill the most things possible, you would be a vegan because the plow and the disc kills everything preparing the field for your bean, your tofu. And then anything that might just be dismembered and slithered out of the way or the disc of the plow, then they come in with Monsanto and poison the shit out of them. Are you aware, Joe Rogan, that I was bombarded, and I understand that you heard from a lot of people that never thought of it that way,

that the preparing of tofu is the most genocidal slaughter procedure available on planet Earth, because you have to kill everything that interferes with the bean production. Well, last night on Yellowstone, a very popular series, Kevin Costner, playing the boss hog of the Yellowstone ranch, quoted me almost verbatim on that statement as he confronted some animal rights people on the show last night. And I have been bombarded lately with people going, Costner quoted you from the Joe Rogan interview when he confronted animal rights from hundreds of people who saw it. The producers, Taylor Sheridan, according to my son Toby, is a big fan of my defiant ballet, my defiance ballet.

And he must have heard our exchange. And, Joe, it was almost verbatim of what I said on your podcast. That's amazing. It's awesome because people who respond to me said, yeah, I see what you mean. I never thought of it that way. Well, maybe you should start thinking. The thing is like people think of animals dying as like a deer is like if you shoot a deer, you killed an animal. But they don't think that if you want to grow lettuce, you have to displace wildlife. You have to do what's called monocrop agriculture.

And when you have thousands of acres of soybeans, for example, that's not normal. It's not normal for the ground to have only one plant for thousands of acres. And it's not sustainable. The only way they can do that is to kill everything that was there. Kill everything. And the amount of rabbits that they have to kill, gophers, groundhogs, songbirds, birds. Everything. Snakes, turtles, voles, shrews. Anything that's ground nesting gets churned up in the

wheels. It's just, it's they think of it as you're eating plants. But you can do it in a way where you're not going to kill anything if you grow your own. If you want to grow your own vegetables, you have your own garden, you do it organically, you compost all your waste, and it's possible to do. But most people are not doing that.

Most people are a part of something that's awful. And most people who eat meat are a part of something that's awful, too. And I think you and I will both agree that factory farming is fucking disgusting. Disgusting? It infuriates me. And before I became a hunter, I was on the fence. I watched so many PETA videos and I was like, I'm either going to be a vegetarian or I'm going to be a hunter.

I met Ranella, he took me hunting, I shot a mule deer, we cooked it over a fire and I go, this is what I'm doing. It felt like I had tapped in, like I'd opened up a door to some DNA that I didn't know existed. The way I explain it to people that I've never hunted, I'm like, do you know that feeling when you catch a fish? There's a feeling when the fish is on the line. There's an excitement that doesn't even totally make sense. But what that excitement is, there's a primal door that opens up where you realize

you are now going to feed your family. You have this fish. It's on the line. You're going to pull it in. This wild animal that you've captured will now give nutrients to your loved ones. It's in there. It's in your DNA. And when you hunt, the first time I shot that deer and we were sitting there cooking and

eating it over the fire, I knew it right away. I was like, okay, this is how you're supposed to eat meat. Because you're a smart man. This is how you're supposed to eat meat. Because you're a smart man. This is how you're supposed to eat meat. You're supposed to go get it. Yeah. That's how you're supposed to eat meat. That's why I was attacked all throughout my career for murdering innocent animals, and

I knew that what I was doing was pure. Well, there's also the reality that no animal in the wild dies in a nice way. They don't die of old age. Tooth, fang, and claw. 100% animal. I've used the term tooth, f tooth fang and claw and nobody knows what that means i have to explain it but when i was growing up that's the description of nature yeah because it is the description of nature tooth fang and claw there is no gentle death in nature it's all prolonged heartbreaking to the human psyche. Yeah. And real. It's natural.

It's the way the cycle works. I mean, there's a reason. The horrible thing is, if it didn't happen that way, they would overpopulate and it would be terrible diseases. Yeah. Destruction of habitat. Yeah. And here's the bottom line. Shit has to die.

Yes. The surplus has to be utilized with reverence, i.e. garlic and butter. Revenue generated, family hours of recreation. Well, how can you enjoy killing an animal? Because it's a challenge, because it's a fulfilling spiritual experience, knowing that God created these beasts, much like the aboriginal people, put the hieroglyphics on the cave wall because they were desperate to adequately convey reverence for this beast

that was difficult to get close to with a sharp stick. They had to dedicate themselves to a higher level of awareness, predator capabilities, reasoning predator, in order to kill it cleanly because the mastodon would kill them if they didn't kill it cleanly. And then that hunter brought not just food, food, clothing, shelter, medicine, tools, weapons, and more important than any of that, and I'm just a stupid guitar player, but I figured this out by the time I was 12. More important than the tools and the weapons and the food and the protein and the clothing and the shelters, which is what the bison and the mastodon provided, there is a sense when you're done of eternal spirit,

that this isn't just tangible physical stuff, that something else happens like you talked about around the campfire chewing on a mule deer backstrap when you teach your grandkids how to catch that fish and fillet that beautiful fillet off of that skeleton and fry it up and you eat it it is a it's a physical ballet but it's equal as a spiritual ballet because you're for a dirt bag if you're a dunce. And if you don't care, you have to hire somebody else to do it. And that's where the factory farming comes in. And I got a comment.

God bless the farmers and ranchers because if we want 10 billion chickens a week, that's how you got to do it. Yeah, I'm not. 10 billion chickens a week, that's how you got to do it. Yeah, I'm not, and by the way, there's a lot of ranchers that they treat their animals very well, and they really just have one bad moment of one day. Yes. And that's when they get that piston through the brain, and it happens instantaneously. There's a lot of great ranchers out there.

I've hung out with them all my life. It's not all factory farming. You can buy ethically raised food. The majority of them are conscientious stewards. They watch the water, the soil, the air. There's a company that we work with, too. It's called Butcher Box. Great stuff, yes. It's a great company.

And they source all their food from ethical ranchers. Their seafood, it's all from sustainable sources. All their chickens are free-range wild chicken. I mean, not wild, but free-range chickens. That's a proper, responsible reaction to the dumbing down of America where they don't care. Right. And then, of course, we can get into the insanity of squaloring for health care because people don't care about their health. And it starts with diet.

The sugar, the garbage. Yeah, diet is the most important thing. Isn't that funny that like all this health care talk, very, very, very little talk about losing weight and then making sure you eat good nutrition. I've lost. Very little talk of it. Through this whole pandemic, it was an amazing opportunity for the government to say, folks, here is one of the most important things you can do for your immune system.

Make your body healthy. Tucker Carlson is the only guy i've seen that mentions that specifically yeah i think he's a great guy but tucker's a fisherman you know hardcore yeah hardcore fly hardcore yep that's why he was on ranella's podcast and i was really impressed with his knowledge of fishing and the fact how he's so dedicated to it. And he understands the physics of spirituality about the dedication and tying that fly just like the midge. It's an art form. The fly fishing thing is weird, though, to me, because a lot of them just let them go. They're just out there fucking with fish. I can't catch and release.

Yeah. I know there's some screams where you have to, and I admit that. But I'm not going to fish there because I like a slab. Yeah. I find it odd. I mean, I know that's fun to do. I've done it before. You know, I've gone fly fishing. I've gone salmon fishing when you have to let them go.

I get it. But it's weird. It doesn't feel right. No. This is food. You don't let food go. It also feels like, imagine if you could shoot an elk in the head with a blunt dart and it knocked him out cold.

Don't do it. And then you walked up on him, took a picture of him, and then gave him some smelling salts and let him go. Well, you got your rhino hunting in Africa, the green rhino hunts. Right. Yeah, they dart them. But I'm not interested in that either. I'm not interested in that.

Well, I would be interested in going to one of those things because there's a whole conservation effort to try to save those rhinos. And I think it'd be fascinating just to be around them and watch it happen. There was a guy that I had on the podcast many years ago Corey Knowles. Knowlton? Corey Knowlton. Knowlton I think. He's a guy who

there was a big hullabaloo because he bought a black rhino tag for hundreds of thousands of dollars and people wanted to kill him and he did a great job of explaining the money that he's spending to go and hunt this black rhino. First of all, they had to kill that rhino because that rhino was killing all the— It was a rogue. I have my own story.

I did one. I killed one. Well, let's—we'll get to that in a second. But his story was interesting because the black rhino is an endangered animal. It is. And it was killing all these viable young males but it wasn't viable anymore so it wasn't it was no longer breeding but it was still killing it had to go they had to do something about it and so the money that he spent doing that goes towards conservation to take care of these rhinos and cnn of all places

is back when cnn wasn't quite as fucked, they did a really good job explaining this. And they followed him around. And the guy who is the reporter said, I have a much better understanding of what this is all about. And it's very confusing. Honesty from CNN. Can I have a copy of that? I would worship it. It was just a video of it.

But it's a very confusing thing to people that don't understand that the whole reason why the animals are thriving in Africa is because people want to pay to shoot them. And that's like, to a lot of people, that is a real problem. Like, they have a real problem with that. Except that that's not all that is. I'm 73 in two weeks. You look great. Like I said, if I had some sleep, I'd really be handsome. But I hunt so hard every day

i just beat the shit out of myself and it's so fun the only thing you were a day before we get started you you you were saying before the podcast you were on day what 30 what i don't know no this is uh what is it november 29 i started mid-august wow and i hunt every day it's the first day i slept in wow first day i slept in if it's raining day I slept in. If it's raining, I duck hunt. If it's not raining, I deer hunt. I hunt every day. I live on a ranch and shit needs to die and I get a kick out of sneaking up on him with a bow and arrow. It's so difficult, the challenge.

How many meals do you think you donate every year to the Hunters for the Hungry? Thousands. Thousands. Thousands. That's incredible. Yeah. I kill a lot of deer. I mean, it really is amazing.

Because if you just donated to soup camps, or soup kitchens rather, and you donated to any other organization that feeds the hungry, you'd have to spend a fuckload of money to get thousands of meals. And they need meat. They can get dented cans of beans. They can get four-day-old bread, but they can't get meat. Right. So the majority of soup

kitchens and homeless shelters, I work with Project Caritas in Waco, and we got butchers in Michigan where we donate whole carcasses. And again, I'm a sweetheart, but I'm not an idiot. I keep the backstraps. I mean, not all of them, but most of the backstraps. That's what we like. But anyhow, but most of the backstress. That's what we like. But anyhow, that system regarding the rhino is a perfect example because it's so controversial. I killed a white rhino in South Africa in 95, 96. This rhino had killed three rhinos, ravaged entire agriculture operations and had killed young elephants. It was a rogue rhino. He was 20-some years old, and they had to kill him. Now, there's a choice. If you want to save rhinos and save other animals, this rogue rhino has to die. You can take tax dollars, or however they do it in Africa, and you can hire people to go kill it, or you can sell that tag someone who

wants the big five or someone who's fascinated by dangerous game and big giant animals. And I'd never killed a rhino, and as growing up, rhinos were the symbol of like the ultimate dangerous hunt, even though they're not, something I learned later. But the money I paid for that rhino paid for years of salaries for anti-poaching squads to save the rhino. So my killing the rhino saved many rhinos and other wildlife. And the elephant that I killed in South Africa had already killed people. It came over from the Thule herd from Botswana across the Limpopo River and had ravaged agriculture, destroyed villages. The elephant had to die. Now, that's not the typical scenario. Not like the deer and the elk and the moose and antelope are threatening people, but they produce surplus.

The animals have babies every year. The ground doesn't expand. The population increases every spring, but the ground not only doesn't expand, it recedes because of habitat destruction. I think it's a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow. Well, they need to start swallowing it. I know, but they don't hear it enough. I mean, if they don't hear it like this... If it wasn't for you and me, I don't think anybody would hear this.

It's hard to hear it. It's hard to have the... Because if you go to the average person and you say, is there ever any reason to shoot a rhino? They'd be like, fuck no. Don't you know that rhinos are dying? Okay, well, what if the rhino's killing other rhinos? They'd go, does that happen?

Like, they don't even know. They don't even know. Joee you're talking to the guy who's been on the front line of this stuff all my life i know you have but i go to whole foods or i'm at the starbucks or i'm in mill valley north of san francisco people come up to me all the time that don't look like conservationists or conservatives or ted nugent, and they initiate this dialogue with me. And within minutes, if they have certain questions about assault weapons or shooting endangered species, I take a deep breath, and I'm the consummate gentleman trying to educate them in a gentle way but in a non-compromising way.

Do you ever get tired of doing it? Because you've been doing it for so long. No, not at all. Because the anti-education system has so efficiently dumbed down such a huge swath of our culture that I feel, like I was just going to share, the gal from Starbucks in, is it Mill Valley or Valley Mills, north of San Francisco, confronted me, and I just took a couple minutes to explain surplus and value.

What did she say to you? She goes, I can't believe that you would kill an elk. And I go, well, have you ever eaten elk? I mean, what do you eat? I mean, I'm a vegan. Then I explained the whole tofu slaughter system. She goes, yeah, but still no not no it's not not yeah but still that's never a legitimate response you have to ask them does one animal equal does one life is one life equal or lives more valuable when they're big and the beautiful thing about that environment, in that ultra-liberal environment, she is aware of the field-to-table restaurants in that area.

Where they're getting these wild pigs and they're getting the permits to process them. And deer meat. And wild squirrels. And raccoons. They're eating raccoons. Who's eating raccoons? Where are they eating raccoons. They're eating raccoons. Who's eating raccoons? Where are they eating raccoons? Up in San Francisco, there's a field table specialty restaurant where they—

They need to eat looters. I don't know about eat them. We need to trap them. So common sense, once explained with adequate evidence to support the explanation, I find that it's approaching 100% of the time those hardcore against it literally turn, I literally have seen this happen so many times. Oh, I didn't know that. They always turn their head and they kind of wince and go, because they want to cling to the fantasy that they can save a life by not killing a moose.

And within minutes, and I do this on our Spirit of the Wild show, you should see the bombardment of emails and correspondence I get. When I was on your podcast, Jesse James, who builds the guns and the hot rods here in Austin, he said, I fixed his daughters who were viciously against him hunting and catching fish and not releasing them until they heard the explanation of how many things die for a salad. And he said, they never heard it like that before. And quite honestly, neither did I, but I live this stuff. I've driven a tractor. I see the seagulls and this stuff I've driven a tractor I see the seagulls and the crows behind me and I see the the slithering dismembered creatures that the plow

destroyed and that's why the seagulls and the crows are following the tractor to eat these wounded animals because in order to get a tofu salad you got to kill the shit out of a whole bunch of stuff what I was getting at is that you got to ask a lot of these folks, too, does one life equal one life? Does the life of one small rodent, like a mouse, that gets run over in a tractor, is that the same as an elk? Because if I shoot one elk, I eat that elk for a year. Yes. Joe, I had this conversation with my son Rocco, who's in the other room. How'd your son become a vegan?

He's a very nice guy. Don't mean to pick on you, Rocco. He's amazing. Is he in here right now? No, he's looking at the camera. I love him, Matt. I love him so much it's im the other room. How'd your son become a vegan? He's a very nice guy. Don't mean to pick on you, Rocco. He's an amazing, is he in here right now? No, he's looking at the camera. I love him, Matt. I love him so much, it's immeasurable. And he's so smart. He's such a smart ass.

He's such a critical thing. Is that a rebellion thing? Because his dad's Ted Nugent? No, some people jump to that conclusion, but he has a digestive condition. And he discovered a diet where he didn't have complications. And that diet ended up being hardcore vegan what is the digestive complication um he'd have to explain it but it's a you know that i have a buddy mine as a hunter who got that um that lone star tick disease oh

geez yeah you know that yes the lone star tick these people it's it's something called alpha gal allergic to meat yeah and he's he's a hunter, and he's allergic to meat. He got it during a hunt. What a pisser. He had a tick burrow itself. It's really kind of ironic. He had a tick burrow itself on a hunt into his belly button, and he didn't realize it was even in there. Oh, shit.

And then eventually by the time he got it out there, he was feeling sick. He didn't feel good. He went and got diagnosed, and he started, whenever he'd eat meat, he'd feeling sick. He didn't feel good. He went and got diagnosed. And he started, whenever he'd eat meat, he'd have headaches and he'd feel awful. Oh, man. And he got this disease, which is, there's a lot of diseases that come from ticks, folks. And Lyme disease is the most notorious one. But this one from the Lone Star tick, it has something called, it's like alpha galactose.

They call it alpha gal for short, I believe. I don't know the exact term of the enzyme or whatever it is that it targets. But that is what is in meat. And when you eat meat, it makes you really sick. And it could last for a year or more. So he's in the process of it right now. Shout out to my friend Evan. Yeah. A moment of education for our fellow hunters out there examine the creature you're about to gut

yes check for ticks check your body for ticks because you can get those ticks off within the first 24 hours you generally don't get the lime and you don't get um the alpha gal we've had friends that have become really really borderline paralyzed from tick bites. Oh, my God. That Lyme disease will fuck you up. Lyme disease is horrendous. My brother Jeff, his young son Patrick is over in Switzerland or Germany right now getting treated. He's got it so bad and they don't treat it in the same way here in the States.

What's the difference how they treat it over there? I have no idea. Some kind of incubation where they turn up the heat and they give them a fever of 104, 105 for a prolonged time under control and try to burn it out of them. Jesus. Oh, it's just horrible. Because generally over here they just give you like a shitload of antibiotics.

If you get the antibiotics, here's a great, here's a tick story for all you tick hunters out there. Because if you're hunting, you're going to run into them. If you're in the outdoors, especially spring turkey hunting, you're sitting on the grass waiting for a bird to come in, you're right there in tick epicenter. Yeah. A friend of ours, two brothers in Jackson County, Michigan,

this must have been back in the 70s, they both shot deer during the gun season. And when you gut the deer, you cut down the pelvic. And usually on the hams, on that white hair, you can see ticks, especially here in Texas. Well, they dismissed it because there wasn't much knowledge about that back then. Well, they both found ticks on themselves. And the one brother had another bronchial infection, so his doctor prescribed hardcore antibiotics to the one brother. But the other one didn't get the antibiotics, and the other one's in a wheelchair now because it metastasized and just crippled him.

Yeah, my friend's son got Bell's palsy, and he's only five years old. Half his face turned paralyzed, and it was fucked up for quite a while before it came back. Jamie, would you do me a favor and look that up? I want to make sure that I'm saying this right. This alpha galactose from whatever the fuck it is. I know it's alpha gal for short. It's from the Lone Star Tick.

Lone Star Tick makes you allergic to it. I mean, you have it on the Mayo Clinic site. It doesn't say what Alpha-Gal stands for. It just says Alpha-Gal Syndrome. Oh, there it is. Alpha-Gal Syndrome. Alpha-Gal Syndrome is a recently identified type of food allergy to red meat, other products from mammals in the United States, a condition most often caused by a Lone Star Tick bite. The bite transmit a sugar molecule called Alpha-Gal, I think it's a shortened version of the real name, into the person's body. In some people, this triggers an immune system reaction

that later produces a mild to severe allergic reaction to red meat, such as beef, pork, or lamb, or other mammal products. Lone Star tick is found predominantly in the southeastern United States, and most cases of alpha-gal syndrome occur in that region. The tick can also be found in the eastern and southern central United States. The condition appears to be spreading further north and west. Motherfuckers. However, as deer carry the Lone Star tick to new parts of the United States. You know what's fucking weird?

Have you heard that a large percentage of deer are carrying COVID-19? I don't believe it. It's true. I just don't. Based on what, the CDC? No, no, no. Based on these hunters have captured or taken samples. I think, what state was it in that they found?

Wisconsin, a bunch. In Michigan, they found a bunch. They found like more than 50% carried antibodies. Yeah, but how do you measure 50% of the deer herd? No, no, no, not 50% of the deer herd. 50% of the deer that they tested. But what's interesting is, this was on Ronella's podcast, which is very informative, meat eater podcast,

one of the best hunting podcasts there is. The best. He goes back in time, the doctor that was, the scientist that was studying this, and so they had been collecting blood samples on these deer for decades. So they went back a decade ago, and there's none. And so this is a very recent thing that these deer, and they don't know how, whether it's from the captive cervid industry, you know, people come in contact with these deer, you know, when people farm deer. Sure.

They really don't know. They don't know why and how, but that's one of the things that they're saying about these viruses, like this idea of stopping the spread of these virus. There's always going to be animal reservoirs and it's almost impossible to stop a virus entirely. And that the best case scenario is the virus eventually mutates to a point where it's not nearly as dangerous. And they think that that's what happened to the Spanish flu, and they also think that that's what's happening currently with COVID, that slowly over time it'll mutate to a point where it's not as dangerous. And they think that this new one in South Africa,

even though everybody's freaking out about this new strain, what's it called? What are they called? Omnicom? Omicron. Sounds like one of the transformers. They think that this new one, all the cases have been extremely mild. Yeah, basically the symptoms of an average cold.

Yeah. And they're going nuts about it. Yeah, it's crazy. I've been hearing from all- There's an emergency in New York City. They declared a state of emergency for what literally is very mild for all the people that have caught it so far. New York City did that. I'm shocked to hear that they overreacted and they're following the narrative in New York.

I don't know if it's New York State or the city, but I think they're both wacky. God bless them. The new governor's wacky. Well, here's what I think is the most important element of that story, where they're shutting down people coming in from Africa. they're shutting down people coming in from Africa. First of all, Biden and his sidekicks immediately attacked Trump for being racist for doing that. And now they're doing it. I think that's an interesting observation that is very indicative. But I hear from a bunch of outfitters, huge gazillion dollar industry, billions and billions of dollars that are generated in South Africa, desperately needed revenues.

Some of the highest revenues brought into that country, not just South Africa, but whole Southern Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Mozambique, Namibia. And they're all shut down. Mozambique, Namibia. And they're all shut down. They're all shut down and all the Safari Club International, Dallas Club Safari, Houston Safari Club, all these conventions that generate billions of dollars per convention. These guys can't come and put on their exhibits and can't book hunters. And a lot of people would dismiss it as a inconsequential industry. It's a consequential industry. And it's not just that industry. It's also safaris where people want to go and just see wild animals. Sure.

And that's a huge industry as well. Huge. And what's really crazy is this did not – they don't think it came from Africa. It was found there. They think it was found there, and they've also found it in Brazil. They found it in New Zealand. They found it in a few other places. And they think someone who is a vaccinated traveler – because in order to go there, you got to be vaccinated.

They think a vaccinated traveler went there like from Europe because to travel from Europe, I believe most of the countries you have to be vaccinated. They think that that's how it got there, that someone picked it up somewhere else, brought it to South Africa. And then in South Africa, it was identified. Cluster fuck. Who knows? I mean, it might have come from South Africa, and then in South Africa it was identified. Cluster fuck. Who knows? I mean, it might have come from South Africa. It might not have. But the point is, to shut down Africa seems incredibly cruel.

I believe you have to give people freedom. You've got to give people the opportunity to make their own choices. And I think there's ways to test people. It's not hard to test. It's one of the things they did when the people landed. One of the planes landed from South Africa. I forget where it landed, but they tested 61 people on the flight, tested positive. 61 of them tested.

61. And then they put those people in hotels to quarantine for where it's over. But again, very mild symptoms. So this is like a huge overreaction so far. We've seen a whole lot of that. God damn. I never would have thought that it would be this easy to get people to not just comply, but to turn on their fellow Americans.

I mean, not just Americans, all over the country. Australia has probably got it worse than anybody. But one of these hats I gave you says, I will not comply. It's got a picture of a beautiful rifle on it. A buddy of mine came to me and had one of those hats and asked me to sign it. And a bunch of his buddies say, where can I get one? I'd like one of those signed. So I made a few.

And after a couple thousand were like 50,000 of those right now that people go to Ted Newsom dot com and get autographed. I will not comply. But it's not just about gun confiscation. those right now that people go to tednewson.com and get autographed i will not comply hats but it's not just about gun confiscation it's about arbitrary punitive capricious nonsense founded decrees from people who don't have the authority to give those decrees right yeah that's the clusterfuck 20 they never have had it before they never had the ability to tell you can't work before and now they do and they're using it a lot a lot. And they're not using it in a rational way. And then you look at Florida. Florida made completely different choices. And Florida's fine.

So it doesn't make any sense. If you look at it overall rationally, like if you look at the state of the country and what California did versus what Florida did, right now Florida has the lowest numbers of cases per day. Florida's economy is booming. Their real estate economy is booming because people are escaping all these states where you can't do anything and they're going to Florida. In Texas. Yes, in Texas. We did the first UFC in Florida in fucking April. So the pandemic shut everything down in March. We did a UFC in Florida in April. I mean, we didn't have a crowd because people were

still a little skittish, but Florida, at least we could go to restaurants. You know, you had to wear a mask. I was like, fine, I'll fucking, whatever. I thought it would last like a couple more months and then we'd be over with. But Florida was the first and they were widely criticized. But now if you look at it, I mean, except for times where there's these surges, where people love to capitalize on those moments and say, look, you're killing people, you're killing people. If you adjust for age, Florida has done as well, if not better than any state in the country when it comes to what happens with this virus. They've shown over time that if you look at how this virus

works, and if you look at the response to it, lockdowns don't help. They just don't. I've been following that. And they definitely don't help these people's lives. And they definitely don't help overdoses. They don't help depression. They don't help people losing businesses that, again, they've worked for decades for. I firmly believe that you have to let people make their own decisions. And once we understand what this is, this is not the Black Plague. It's not killing 50% of the population. And there's all these remedies that are completely ignored that no one cares about. No one cares about vitamins and vitamin D and the fact that at one point in time they measured, I believe it was 84% of the people in the ICU with COVID had insufficient levels of vitamin D.

Sure. And only 4% had sufficient levels. And if you look at the country in general, it's more than 70% of the people are deficient in vitamin D. That's a crazy number. And it's not an expensive thing to get. Vitamin D, if you can get it outside, it's natural. You just lay in the sun, you get it, which is the best form of vitamin D. The best way, yeah. That's the free form.

But you can buy it as a supplement. But meanwhile, you don't, I've never heard that once from these fucking press conferences. You mean Fauci doesn't recommend natural, intelligent, taking care of your health before you ask for health care? Well, you know what? You could say that, too. If they want to talk about vaccines and they want to talk about all these other things, say that.

Say that. But also talk about these other things. Talk about quercetin. Talk about zinc. Talk about ionophores. Talk about how important it is to take care of your health and drink a lot of water and lose weight. There was an article, a peer-reviewed study recently about what is happening with, see if you can find this, with overweight people. That overweight people, one of the things that's happening with COVID in overweight people is that their body is not producing the antibodies correctly because of the fact that their body is so overweight. Sure.

There's something happening. There's a process that goes on while you're obese that doesn't go on with a person who's lean. And that it's like a significant issue when it comes to your immune system and your immune system's response to COVID. And it's one of the reasons why so many people, at one point in time, 78% of the people in the ICU for COVID were obese. Well, the nutrient family is in mourning this year. We've lost some great friends, and most of them were dramatically overweight. Here it is right here. The results of the study show that the majority of COVID-19 patients with obesity make almost indiscernible amounts of neutralizing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies,

suggesting that obese individuals may be at a higher risk to respond poorly to COVID-19 infection. But I think overall, before we even get into the minutiae, I'd like to think that one thing we can accomplish, and you've done so on your podcast, and I salute you and thank you for that, is for people to focus on their lifestyles. What is Mr. Hand putting in Mr. Grocery Cart, and can you pronounce the ingredients, and is it really something you want your children to eat? There is a pandemic of blubber in this country that is just inexcusable. If it says diet or sugar-free, don't buy it. Best thing you can do is go hunting and have a garden.

Yeah, drink water. And drink a lot of water. It's literally the best thing you can do. And get the sugar and the carbs out of your lifestyle. My wife, Shemaine, my son, Rocco, my son, the whole Nugent family, hardcore, intelligent, caring, conscientious, taking care of sacred temple. That's another term. I think we talked about it on our first podcast together, that when I was growing up, this was known as the sacred temple.

When I use that term to anybody under 50, they don't have the faintest idea what I'm talking about. Just like the term tooth, fang, and claw, that nature isn't cuddly and cute and it's not Bambi. It's savagery. It's hardcore blood and guts. And that's beautiful in its own way, but people have to start paying attention to what Mr. Hand is putting into Mr. Mouth. And here's another one, Joe. The chemical warfare that is intentionally waged upon our families with the air fresheners, the chemicals, the downy fabric softeners. Those are bad? The scented dirt. But they smell so good.

Wait a minute. They don't smell good. It smells like a French whore on a bad day. Wait a minute. That's some poison shit. Shemaine and I. This smells good. If you open.

Somebody's brainwashed you. Shemaine and I, if you open, somebody's brainwashed you. If you open the door to your house, and we've had this happen, where our friends invite us to these beautiful homes, and they open the door to welcome us in, we can smell the fabric softener. We can smell the plug-in heated chemical air fresheners. It's just horrible. It can't be good for you. More chemicals is not better than less chemicals. Yeah, I don't think can't be good for you. More chemicals is not better than less chemicals. Yeah, I don't think that those are good for you. Flowers are good for you.

You should have flowers. They smell good. I like dishes full of dirt. That's what I like. Do you wear deodorant? I do wear deodorant. All natural stuff from an organic store. What is all natural deodorant?

Does that shit work? Yeah, mine work. I smell good. Do you? Yeah, give me a good whiff before we get out of here. I will. I'm going to hug you.

I'm going to give you a whiff. I keep all chemicals out of my life. Now, let me think what I have that's probably not good. I have this thing called ginger beer

that's got some sugar in it. I like that, but not a lot, you know, in moderation. Right. But mostly our life is organic vegetables and fruits and venison. Well, again, but not a lot, you know, in moderation. But mostly our life is organic vegetables and fruits and venison. Well, again, like if you get to be your age and you have the amount of energy that you have, you're doing something right, obviously. Clean and sober for

73 years is a good start. That's a good start. You drink a little wine every now and then? I do drink some good red wine and Shemaine chooses and picks my wine because I have no idea. You just don't get blasted. I drink like this much. Right. You can still stay sober. And that's fine. Everybody at the Thanksgiving dinner table, the New Jersey drink beer and wine, and they have a couple of highballs, whatever that is.

But I don't. I can't stand the taste of liquor. I like a good sweet wine, but a couple drinks and a good cigar around a campfire. I've shot our machine guns and there are certain procedures that seem to be good for the psyche. Yeah. I enjoy a good cigar as well. And I like an ice glass of wine, but I do like to get drunk. I'm a lot of my friends do too. I take countermeasures. But see, I can accomplish all things getting drunk without getting drunk. If you want crazy and stupid and out of control, all I have to do is go crazy, stupid, and out of

control. I'm sure. I don't need any impetus. I don't need any outside influences. The great Apache chief said, God has already given you everything you need. And I believe that wildness, everything you need. And I believe that wildness, uninhibitiveness, absolute gonzo misbehavior, whatever you need to do is already in here. You just need to know how to unleash it. For example, recently they, I do all these interviews. I have a new record coming out called Detroit Muscle, which is, I sent you a bunch. How many records have you had? 40 million I've sold, but I think 20 some, 30 albums maybe. That's pretty incredible. Yeah. I started in 67.

Not when I was 67. God damn. 1967. Do you know how many fighters come out to Stranglehold, by the way? Of course I do. Well, what a lick. Shall I? Yeah, please do.

I mean. There's so many fighters come out to that song. Because like for a jujitsu guy, that is the song. And military guys, military guys going into battle. Hit me Look at this shit Look at this shit Look at your goosebumps Those are real Look at that hair Standing up at this shit. Look at your goosebumps. Those are real.

Look at that hair standing up on end. Shit. It really is happening. After a thousand years of that shit. A thousand years and you still get fired up. What a great lick though. It's a great fucking song. It all comes from Bo Diddley. When you first get a guitar, when I was like seven years old, of course, who doesn't feel...

That is such a natural rhythm. I was just on the phone with Billy Gibbons, and he said that a fetus at conception, if that Bo Diddley lick is happening, it will dance. So my point is, is that this right hand, if I jacked off, I'd pull my dick clean off, because this right hand... You jack off with your left hand? Never mind. I sign so many autographs and all these hats every day and all these flags, and I play my guitar every day, and I started with his god, Bo Diddley. You hear all the conk, chonk, chonk, chonk, chonk. Well, what is... That whole... And I learned that, not just Bo Diddley,

but a guy named Jimmy McCarty. Know the name. Jimmy McCarty. Jimmy McCarty. 1960, my band, The Lourdes, opened up for Billy Lee and the Rivieras, Martha and the Vandellas, and Gene Pitney, who had a hit song called Town Without Pity. This history.

So I opened up. I was 12, going on 12. My band, The Lourdes, opened up. Billy Lee and the Rivieras. You were 12 when you were opening up for them? Yeah. When I was 14, I opened up for the Supremes in the Bo Brumbles at Cobo Hall because my band, the Lords, won the Michigan Battle of the Bands because we were bad motherfuckers

for white boys, I'm telling you. 14? Yes. It was awesome. So anyhow, going back to Walled Lake Casino, Novi, Michigan, Walled Lake, Michigan. Billy Lee and the Riviera. It was Billy LeVise destroyed 10 tambourines per song. Every song had three

forehead vein-popping crescendos. Johnny Bananjic, 15 years old, on Ludwig drums, playing Nobody played bass drums like that. And there's this kid, fraudulent, like some kind of industrial beast. And then Earl Elliott on a Rickenbacker bass through an Ampeg B-15.

Joe Kubrick on a Gibson 335 Cherry through a Fender Twin Amp. And this long-legged motherfucker on a Gibson Birdland. And a Fender Twin Reverb. Jimmy McCarty, and they started a song called Jenny Take a Ride. I was already into the Bo Diddley

chukka-chukka-chukka stuff, but when he started Jenny Take a Ride, only I can do this. Only I can replicate what Jimmy did that night, and it went like this. Get it. Oh, see. See, see, ride. Come on, see, rider.

Come on, see, baby, what you have done now. Oh, see, see, see, rider. Come on, see, baby, what you have done now. Ah, you made me love you. Now, now, now, you're mad as. Watch this right hand. Where I go. Get the fuck out of here.

Do you feel that? Yes, yes. What the fuck kind of music is that? It's amazing music. So I saw this Birdland. Nobody played a Birdland. It's a jazz guitar. It's made for playing things like... Which is cool. Great tone, huh?

Right. Right. Great, rich, bell kind of tone, but when Jimmy played it, that... Fuck! Wow. So that imprinted Gibson Birdland, Fender Twin. Gibson Birdland, Fender Twin. Right hand, Bo Diddley on stair.

Holy fuck! So eventually, I had to get a Gibson Birdland. And the way I play comes from the Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry. And if you're Chuck Berry, I'm in the home. Now Chuck didn't play it like that because my right hand was playing all the counter rhythms. And so that's where the whole... Cat's Grudge Fever. playing all the counter rhythms. And so that's where the whole... Cat scratch fever. The whole ca-ca-ca-ca-ca-ca. The new record's got a song called Detroit Muscle. I don't write songs, I ejaculate them. I just pick up my guitar and go...

The whole... Yeah. It just made me play. So Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Little Richard, Jimmy McCarty, Billy Lee and the Rivieras, by the way, changed their name years later to Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels. I talked to Mitch on Thanksgiving.

I still keep in touch with these fucking guys 60 years later. Wow. So the new record is the continuation of... You use the word primal. Primal is my life, whether it's with a sharp stick or a guitar or a chainsaw. Primal is pure. And I think that field to table is a return to primal.

I think you discovering that you can either go vegan or a hunter, you made the primal decision. I think primal is the answer to every problem mankind has subjected themselves to. Getting back to tooth, fang, and claw, the earth, accountability, your step. Did the step that you take benefit the world or did it harm the world both literally and figuratively so that's how i've conducted my life and the new record it's just a fucking orgy of killer songs and my drummer jason heartless and bass player greg smith are what every guitar player dreams to have at their side the best musicians you've ever heard. That's awesome. You know, I don't play music. I don't have any musical talent.

I've never studied it. But I'm always fascinated by the fact that, especially with guitar, that I can hear a few licks, and I'm pretty sure I could guess who's playing. Sure. You know, like Gary Clark Jr., for example. Sure. He has a very specific sound. Here's his tone here. He got that deep bass tone.

Yeah. You know, Steve Ray Vaughan, obviously, but Jimi Hendrix particularly. Get out of here. I mean, that guy. Was he the first that really had his own legitimate, distinctive sound? Did you ever work with him? I jammed with Jimmy. I was in a little room with him.

Wow. It's unnatural. Yeah, he was the guy that took what Chuck invented. Chuck had the distortion. He played a Gibson 335. He played a Birdland on his first record. It was the prototype Birdland, 1955, I think. But he got a little bit more distorted than the typical country, you know. Right.

You know that. But he took it to. Like voodoo child sounds. Yeah. And then Jimmy, of course, just turned everything. I was invited. Fuck. Steve Paul had a club in New York called The Scene Everybody jammed with Johnny Winner

And Edgar Winner and Rick Derringer And Jimmy McCarty And Jimi Hendrix And just every Steve Winwood We'd just go there and we'd just jam At 3 or 4 in the morning And I was invited by Stephen Green

I hope I got all this right. He was going to start a club, and it was going to be the debut of a new band called Sly and the Family Stone, their first East Coast performance. And the Amboy Dukes were in New York City recording Journey to the Center of the Mind. Great song. You're near the center of the mind. Great song.

That's that right hand again. Just this young kid playing all these illegal notes. And so we were invited down because there was going to be a Slide in the Family Stone debut, and we were on Mainstream Records. I don't know how they invited us, but my journey to the Center of the Mind solo was really quite outrageous back then because it was so melodic but it was you know feeding back so Leave your kids behind Come with us and find The pleasures of a journey

To the center of the mind Come along if you can It's a great song for a bunch of kids. So we're invited, and we're in there, and they told me to bring my Birdland, because I've only got to play to Birdland. What's the difference? Well, it's hollow body, it's hand-carved, arched top, made of North American spruce, so it has a, even without an amplifier, it's got the...

If you don't want to indulge me, like when Robert Johnson was playing, what was he playing? Robert Johnson started with an acoustic guitar, and they played such a nasty, noisy... noisy you know i try to you can hear more string than electronics when i listen to his music you know because there's you know it's always a the legend of him selling his soul. Yeah, so primal. Yes. But also really new, right? There wasn't a lot of that music around before him. Well, that's what, you know, let's talk. I'll tell you why.

I'm here to help. So you want emotional, sincere, beckoning, defiant, raw, primal. Yeah. You're going to have to get it from a guy who was enslaved because his spirit has been shackled and his pain is unprecedented. They were controlled by other men, which is so obscene, so wrong. They knew it was

wrong, but they couldn't break free. So when they sang, it was the ultimate heartbreak, anger, fear, yet craving to be free. So you hear it in their angst and the pulse of their lyrics and the dirt, literally and figuratively. They just come out of the cotton fields and they're going to play music of what they're feeling. So it was so sincere, so definitively authoritative from a painful position,

blues, gospel. And then the Emancipation Proclamation, I give you Little Richard. You're talking about a defiant motherfucker. Bursts out of that. Yeah, explosion. You can't manufacture that it has to come from the guts it has to come from the horror of slavery to the unprecedented explosion

of freedom and i'm gonna sing about fucking your daughter long tall sally and i'm gonna i'm gonna wear a pop of dew and i'm gonna put a mascara on it. Yeah. Fuck you, motherfucker. Yeah. Beautiful. And Chuck Berry. Look at him, man. I mean, get out of here. Look at Little Richard.

He's my hero. My God, he was amazing. Long toes out of here. Is he still alive? Is he still alive? Is he still? I think so. I think he's alive.

I think he's alive. I hope he's alive. I want him to be alive. I want him to be alive. So anyhow, So that music Touching 2020 man He died last year

Motherfucker So that Yeah I didn't hear a peep out of that Yeah He died last year May 9th Wow

My favorite is Tutti Frutti Used to be called Tutti Frutti Good Booty Yes And they made him change it. He made hit records out of Fuck You, White Man. So my point is, you can't manufacture it.

You can't design that. There's no formula for that. You just got to come from your soul. And the horrible truth of that kind of art is that it comes from that pain and that you can't create anywhere else. And it's almost like that's the only benefit of that pain is that it produces this spectacular art. And you had to let it out some way. Yeah. And the music did that.

You don't get that from a good childhood, right? You know, I don't know. I mean, there's probably some. I don't think you get that. You probably get something great. You can get's probably some that you probably said get something great you can get something great but you won't get that great i thought it's a different kind of great not that authentic right not that raw um there's a believability factor to that black influence i had a tour years ago called black power because every night on stage since the 50s i've meant I've celebrated and

thanked Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley and Little Richard and James Brown and Wilson Pickett the Motown Funk Brothers I mean there is no music that means anything that wasn't inspired by a black guy name me music that right that moves you that doesn't have a black history like how much of an impact did Hendrix have and guitar players in this country when he came around well what was it like because you were there and you said you jammed with him, but I'm a giant Hendrix fan. Monster. When I was a kid, I remember hearing Voodoo Child for the first time, just thinking like,

how is this guy doing that? How is he making those noises? Especially left-handed upside down. Well, geez, there's so much I could tell you. So much I could tell you. So, yes, when Les Paul electrified it about 1945, before that it was a background strumming instrument. Folk music and background. So it was 45 is when it changed. I think 1945 is when Les Paul electrified it and all of a sudden it had this fiery sound, this electric sound.

When did they first start recording? Like when, what was the first? Me or him? No, anyone. Well, Les Paul also invented a lot of the recording procedures. I mean, the double tracking, the multi-tracking, the echo stuff. Because I think we've gone over this before. We tried to figure it out.

There's like a really, really old recording of someone singing. It sounds fucking terrible. But, I mean, I want to say it was the 1700s. Was that somewhere around that time? Seriously? I think so. What, they record on a papyrus reed or something? 1860.

1860. Okay, so 1860 was the first recording. And so it wasn't even 100 years later you have Hendrix. Or 100 years later. Yeah. Well, musicians. 100 years later, you have Hendrix. Or 100 years later. Yeah. 100 plus, actually, right? We're a crazy bunch. And you want to talk about the ultimate application of critical thinking?

Take the foundation of electric guitar, honky-tonk. Actually, it's in the key of F. Well, okay. Let's spend the night together Now I need you That's all honky tonk Right That's all honky tonk I saw the Stones last week Great Fuck

What about Mick Jagger? Fuck What species is that? 78 years old I know it Dancing around Singing That's all I need to know

Fucking amazing People go How long are you going to be doing this? Mick Jagger will let us know. He's a bad motherfucker. He's fucking still so active. They put on an hour and a half show at Circuit of the Americas in Austin. So it's this enormous racetrack, and they have a huge amphitheater out there.

It's an incredible place, the Circuit of the Americas. And they have these fucking gigantic screens. And when he was on stage, I swear to God, I felt like I was in a dream. It didn't feel real. Guinea motherfucker, huh? To watch him dance around and fucking sing. You know they had to take brown sugar out of their playlist? See, that's so wrong. That's so wrong.

You're not allowed to celebrate black girls now? Right. How crazy is that to celebrate black girls now? Right. How crazy is that? How crazy is that? And the girl who is the inspiration for that song was hugely upset by it. She was like, it's an amazing part of rock and roll. So was Aunt Jemima when she was banned from the show. I don't think Aunt Jemima's a real person. But Brownshank is a great fucking song, man.

No one's protesting that song. They just didn't want to deal with it. It's like the woke anti-racism stuff. The Stones were a defiant bunch and I'd like to think that they would retain that. I think they just don't want any hate at this. I mean, they're in the finish line, right? They're at the home stretch.

But goddamn, the show was good. When they played Kimmy Shelter, holy fuck. Holy fuck. It was incredible. Keith Richards can fucking still wail. He's a god now. I spent was incredible. Keith Richards can fucking still wail. He's a guy. Wail. I spent two nights with Keith Richards at Studio 54 in New York City in 1978.

Wow. Because I'm militantly anti-substance abuse, and he's militantly pro-substance abuse. We had such a good time together. It was just funny because he was a hero of mine. I mean, all my songs came from chuck berry little richard bow diddly but remember the first stones album the british invasion stones album beatles kinks the yardbirds they all had bow diddly chuck berry and motown songs because that's what i was raised on so i was playing that music before the british invasion

and so when the british guys did it and they did it such a good job because they so revered those artists and they they they presented the chuck berry songs oh carol i mean just keith richards Oh, Carol, don't let them steal your heart away Well, I got to learn to dance if it takes me all night and day Well, come into my machine so we can cruise on out What Keith Richards did to the Chuck Berry songs was so respectful, but, I don't know, not more youthful. You can't be more youthful than Chuck Berry.

Just different. Just put a different spin on it. Yeah, with Jagger's over-exaggerated bluesy vocal approach and all those great players. But that was so influential. So take that influence, which was a bombardment, unprecedented, and then take it all the way to Jimi Hendrix. And then the next chapter of guitar sucker punching was Eddie Van Halen. So and I've got to jam with all these guys. I got to jam.

You name the best guitarists. I've jammed with all of them. And to sit there, you don't sit there, you kind of dance there, and you're paying attention to what they express and how they unleash these note volleys and phrases and musical authority. It settles in your psyche, it settles in your soul, and it's like an arsenal of licks that you can do in your own way, but you're not afraid to do it the way they did it and if you have a certain touch of your own then it comes off as your signature style that's what's always so fascinating to me is that out of all the notes that have been played all the songs that have been written and sang and recorded that there's still new ways to make a guitar well you see this

landscape yes it looks it looks restrictive, doesn't it? Right. It looks like it's only that long. Right, it's only two feet long. And that many frets. Lewis and Clark wouldn't know where to send Sacagawea on my guitar neck. I got a song on the new record called Driving Blind that goes... guitar solo There I was minding my own business

Kinda caught off guard I wrote the book on sexual healing I swear to God Well, I think I found the answer To get me peace of mind. Don't flirt with disaster. And don't get caught driving blind. You know, it's got a groove.

It sounds like something you've heard before, but you never have. Where does Clapton fit into it for you? Monster. Monster. Monster. I mean, the whole, I mean, I can do. Can you do Layla? I don't know Layla. Damn. But he's a, yeah, the beast.

I mean, Billy Gibbons, the beast. I mean, now Joe Bonamassa, a beast. Who's Joe Bonamassa? Joe Perry. Who's Joe Bonamassa, a beast. Who's Joe Bonamassa? Joe Perry. Who's Joe Bonamassa? Joe Bonamassa is a super-duper blues guitar player that played Albert Hall and got Eric Clapton to join him on stage. Look into Joe Bonamassa. He's on tour all the time.

He's a great guitar player. He's no Hendrix, and he's no Billy Gibbons. Even my guitar player, Derek St. Holmes, for years, one of the greatest guitar players in the world. You won't hear his name mentioned, but he's better than most. So there's Ricky Medlock with Leonard Skinner. My guitar player in the damn Yankees, Tommy Shaw. These are unbelievable musical forces, just genius, soulful, grinding, authoritative guitar statements, but you won't hear their name because there's so many of them out there.

There is so many, and there's more coming every day. There's kids listening to this right now, just picking up a guitar for the first time. Yeah, well, learn Bo Diddley and Chuck Berry. If you can't go... And if you can't go... And if you can't go... And if you really want to go someplace, try to do...

What a great lick. I love playing that lick. It's a great fucking lick. It's a great fucking lick. That's a great, that's in my workout playlist. Here I come again now, baby, like a dog in heat. You can tell it's me by the clamor, motherfucker. I'd like to tear up the street. I've been smoking for so long, you know I'm here to stay.

I got you in a stranglehold, bitch. Get the fuck out of my way. What a love song. It's a great song. The road i cruise is a bitch now you know you can't turn me around if a house gets in my way i'll burn the motherfucker down remember the night that you left me you put me in my place got you in a stranglehold motherfucker and i crushed your fucking face fuck you well it's a love song um do you feel the love

i don't but i get it it's about standing up for what you believe. Here's a great story. You're not going to believe this. So I signed with Epic Records, 1974. Tom Worman, God bless him. Tony Reale, the engineer. Derek St. Holmes, monster force. Rob Grange on bass, unbelievable.

Cliff Davies, God rest his soul, on drums. I got this rock and roll band from hell. We're playing all over the country, 300 nights a year, cultivating this musical relationship with music lovers that love the dynamic and the crescendos and the experimental and the outrageous uncharted territory, musical mayhem, but mostly the intensity of a Detroit piss and vinegar band, which I define. And so they signed me because they liked the songs. You got Stranglehold and Storm Troopin'.

Just great licks, great song. Motor City, Madhouse, just all these great songs. Derek's got this ungodly voice. So we get in the studio and we're setting up equipment. And they had heard Stranglehold, but they called a meeting. And I didn't know why they called a meeting, but the production company, the engineer, the management company company the band uh the producer uh the all the record company a and r artist relations all had want to have a meeting i go all right maybe we should have a meeting

before we start recording make sure it's like a team energy thing like a pre-fight gathering right and uh they get in bottom line the meeting was about they all voted that Stranglehold shouldn't be on the record because it doesn't have a chorus. Oh, my God. Could you imagine if you listened to them? I'm in the room. And it's like an intervention. Oh, my God. And they're trying to tell me that I got to stop taking this drug.

God. And I'm listening to all their things. It doesn't have a chorus. So who gives a shoo-sis-a-sot-of-a-f. But nobody'm listening to all their things. It doesn't have a chorus. So who gives a shit? Who says this? I don't have a... But nobody likes long guitar jams anymore. Oh, my God.

I do. How is that possible? So I said... This is 74? So I said, are you guys done? What year was Freebird? Yeah. That next year, maybe?

How the fuck did they get that so wrong? They're in New York City. That's so dumb. And they're monitoring hit records they're in new york city that's so dumb and they're monitoring hit records oh god i hate that shit that shit drives me crazy there was a moment where those lyrics to that song stranglehold came to fruition in a meeting where they all voted that it shouldn't be recorded because it's a long jam nobody likes long jams and there's no chorus. And I said, we play this every night. I've been unleashing this song. The people go nuts every night.

I'm going with the people's vote. Not only that, but even if the people didn't like it, it's my statement. This is, I believe in this song. Let's shut the fuck up. Let's record it. If you hear it for one time, how the fuck can you not love it? How the fuck can you not love it? It's such a classic. It's love it? It's such a classic.

It's a monster. It's such a classic. The fact that they wanted to take that off. Imagine if you listen to them. Oh, my God. I mean, between Cat Scratch Fever and that, what is your biggest hit? Well, I don't think there was a hit.

I mean, Derek wrote the song Hey Baby on the first record. But I mean, as far as like songs that are identified as a Ted Nugent song throughout the history of music, Stranglehold's right up there.

Right up there at the top. Probably between, there's a song called Fred Bear. Yes. Amongst Hunters, that's a big one. Yeah. See, it's got that pound thing going.

That might be the... There I was, back in the wild again And I felt right at home where I belong. I had that feeling coming over me again. It's just like it happened so many times before. So many times. Beautiful song Fuck, I gotta tell you, Joel, I got a call this morning. When that song happened after Fred died, I've always been surrounded by the best musicians on the planet. They're dedicated to their craft, they have a work ethic, they're smart asses,

they're adventurous, they're critical thinkers. They're gifted. Michael Lutz on bass, the author of Smoking in the Boys' Room for Brownsville Station. Gunnar Ross, a drummer from Detroit of just super thunder. And when I played that song, I cried through the whole thing. I was completely out of control because Fred had died and my mom had died, and that pattern had a life of its own. I didn't play it. I facilitated it. But Michael and Gunnar immediately grasped my emotion for Fred and what the song meant, grasp my emotion for Fred and what the song meant. And what you hear on the song that the Navy SEALs play when they come home with flag-draped coffins and people bury their children or have an

anniversary, the song every day I get people testifying what the song Fred Bear means to them, just so emotional, so powerful. Well, this morning Gunnar Ross died, my drummer on Fred Bear means to him, just so emotional, so powerful. Well, this morning, Gunnar Ross died, my drummer on Fred Bear, 67 years old, and he died this morning. And that moment when he embraced my pain and love for Fred, the pain of the loss. Just a smart-ass Detroit drummer monster.

But my people, they own the spirit of every song that we play. They become one with it. And Gunner did that day, and it was take one. I played it for him, and then we pushed the record button at Pearl Sound in Canton, Michigan. And Gunner and Michael loved Fred. They didn't know who Fred was, but they knew what it meant to me, and they put their heart and soul into that performance, and Gunner just died this morning at 67.

Will you tell everybody who Fred Bear was? Because there's a lot of people listening to this that don't have any idea who that guy is. Fred Bear is the essence of American entrepreneurial man in the arena in the swirling dust of the Industrial Revolution. Born in Pennsylvania in 1906 or thereabouts, and was a hunter, farmer, trapper, lived on the land. And he moved to Detroit during the Industrial Revolution to be a wood carver for the FOMOCO, Ford Motor Company, making cabinets for the radios and the dashboards and the woodies,

the vehicles. And he had become so proficient with the 30-30 that he was looking for more of a challenge. If he saw a deer with his 30-30, he'd kill it. He learned stealth. You give it 100 yards with an open sight rifle, you should be able to kill it. And that's great. That's how you get venison. But he was looking for something else. So he started making his own bows in the 1920s. And a couple buddies, Nels Grumley. I can't believe I remember all this shit. Nels, that was his name.

Nels Grumley was his boyer. It takes a real art craftsmanship to make a bow from a stave and pick the right grain and the right hickory or the yew or the Osage orange and pick the right tree and know that that core is going to make a good bow and then know what the resistance and the flexibility of those wood limbs will produce what they call cast, how it would cast an arrow. It's quite an art form. And so Fred Bear and Nels Grumley had a little shop in Detroit, and when they weren't making cabinets for their business, the FOMOCO and the radio industry,

he was making his own bows, he and Nels. And it was catching on a little bit. But then up in Oroville, California, I think in 1908 maybe, they found an Indian cowering in a corral. And they determined that this was from the Yanni, Y-A-N-I, the Yanni Indian tribe. And back then, if you killed one of them, you'd get 25 bucks. What year was this? Yeah.

Northern California, 1908, maybe. You could get $25 if you killed an Indian in 1908? Jesus. Jesus. Maybe they should have wrote some blues songs. Holy shit. So anyhow, so instead of killing this guy they determined his name was Ishi

and they wanted to study him he's the last survivor of the Yanni tribe Northern California Oroville just heard a story in Oroville California this morning on the radio and I said to Rocco and Shemaine I go that's where they found Ishi so this guy

Ishi his whole life was based on the bow and arrow, getting close to game, taking a freezing river bath before the hunt to deserve an encounter with the beast that would provide life, food, clothing, shelter, tools, medicine, weapons, spirit, deep into the spiritual realm. And so the sheriff department put him in a jail and they said, let's call some anthropologist or one of these scientist guys. And so they called a guy named Saxton Pope. Pope and Young? Yeah, Saxton Pope. So Saxton Pope came down and tried to figure out what tribe and language and started communicating with Ishii. And then he called his buddy Art Young, who was also a professor, I believe.

I'm probably getting some of the details a little misconstrued here, but this was the proceedings that took place. And so they were so fascinated. They took Ishii out into his native lands in Northern California, and he showed them how their life pivoted on effective bow hunting. And so Saxon and Pope became fascinated, how could you not, as their world was developing better ballistics for longer-range killing. their world was developing better ballistics for longer range killing, Pope and Young went, yeah, this is fascinating trying to get close to that Columbia black tail with a sharp stick.

I got to try that shit. Because there was already this maniac movement of sophistication, so they called it, away from the land and to be more citified and more educated and have other people kill your shit for you. But they discovered there was something powerful about Ishii. Well, Ishii eventually died from white man's germs, as so many did, but Saxon Pope became dedicated to the bow hunting lifestyle. And they went on to go bow hunting in Yosemite and Yellowstone, went to Africa and hunted and filmed it all. And so meanwhile, Fred Bear and Howard Hill in

California and Ben Pearson down in Arkansas were fancying bow hunting as a little sideline fun thing. Well, back then, the only vehicle of promotion for any given entity or endeavor were newsreels. And they don't go to the theater and play a newsreel on a trip to the Arctic in a boat or how to build a canoe. Well, Saxon Pope and Art Young created newsreels about this fascinating rediscovery of the mystical flight of the arrow and how to kill game with it. Real primitive, real Port Orford cedar shafts that they'd have to heat up to straighten out by the eye, how to cut turkey feathers to fletch with a helical to steer the arrow. What were they using for broadheads?

Back then, they made their own out of just raw stock steel. Eventually, Fred Bear made his own, the razorhead, which became most popular. And in Michigan, there was one called the MA3 and the MA2 and the bodkin, all of which I still own. So Fred Bear saw that there was a newsreel coming to the Detroit Theater in downtown Detroit. This is 30s. And it's fascinating. It is fascinating. See, I got this right from Fred.

Wow. Wow. Wallow, bask in the glow. And so Fred said, well, these guys got a newsreel, Hunting with the Bow and Arrow. Let's go check this out. Can you watch that anywhere? I think so. Hunting with the Bow and Arrow.

Yes. Saxton Pope Art Young. What year is this from? 30s, 1930s. Jamie's going to find it. And the book they wrote, Hunting with the Bow and Arrow, they both wrote that. Anyhow, so I'm not even born yet. Les Paul hasn't even electrified the guitar yet but my dad came

back from world war ii and fred bear already had enough influence in michigan that my dad became a bow hunter and i still have his bow from 1945 so fred bear from working for the ford motor company and and then starting becoming a bow, had influenced so many people that young men in that area were taking up bowhunting for the first time. Yes. Wow. My dad was one of them. Was anybody bowhunting in the country other than that, or was it extremely rare? Let me see if I remember the name.

Roy Case. How do I remember these names? Roy Case in Wisconsin. Fred Barron, Michigan. George Nichols in Michigan, owner of Jackson Archery, who Fred contracted to build Fred's Arrows. Because Fred was experimenting with the lamination invention of laminating thin sheets of fiberglass to thin sheets of woods to build up that beautiful recurve. You've seen artwork. And it increased the cast.

That's how they identified the delivery of an arrow. It was the cast. How well a bow of certain wood would cast an arrow. Did they weigh their arrows back then? They did. Typically 600 grain Port Orford cedar with 140 grain or even heavier bodkins, I think were 180 grains. MA2s, MA3s were 150s.

And how'd they keep their arrows within that range? Especially with the wood. I would imagine it varies quite a bit, right? Select. That's why they use port orford cedar because it was controllable and it had a grain conducive to straightness even though effort had to be applied to perfectly straighten them though that never perfect so anyhow so fred now he's so enamored he saw the pope and young video goes holy shit the hell with FOMO co man let's build

bows and arrows so he moved from Detroit to Grayling Michigan up in the middle of the state up in the north country where the only deer were there were no deer south of Claire all the deer were north because after they cut down every tree in Michigan except for the Hartwick Pines, land of the Kirtland's Warbler. I got all this. I register all this information. So after the denuding of the Michigan forest, I mean, white pines as big around as this room, Joe. You see their stumps today. And these guys cut the entire state down with hand saws but shockingly not so much if you

know a little bit about botany what does that do lets the sunlight hit the ground and the habitat exploded to such supportability such sustainability for wildlife that animals can only use what they can reach. And now this explosion of low growth provided sanctuary, shelter, thermal cover during the severe Michigan winters, and escape. And so the deer herd exploded in the 1950s. So Fred's up there. So now I'm born in 48. My dad's already a bow hunter. And every kid in Detroit, every kid in America was fascinated with a bow and arrow.

I live right next to the Rouge River. I was in Detroit, but right next to the Rouge River. All industry came by waterways for transportation of goods. And so even I didn't know who Fred Bear was. I just knew that my dad would shoot his bow. And every kid got a little kid's bow. And I probably shot stuffed animals with suction cup arrows in the living room by the time I was two. And according to my parents, I was a high-energy maniac, borderline dangerous.

But I always shot my bow and arrow. So by the time I'm four or five, we're going north every year in the Ford Country Squire station wagon with our bows and arrows. And we'd stop in this town called Grayling and go to this little cinderblock shack that said Bear Archery over the front. I still didn't know what was going on. I just knew that I loved bows and arrows. But in this little shack in Grayling, Michigan, were lots of bows and arrows. And this tall, lanky guy named Fred Bear, who my dad would bullshit with, we'd go to the Grayling restaurant and have chocolate milk and cherry pie. And by the time I was seven or eight, it registered.

Holy, this is the guy in the cover of a true magazine with a polar bear. This is the guy on American Sportsman, eventually, with Kurt Gowdy, shooting moose and caribou and hunting with the Maharaji and shooting chittle deer and nilgai on the estate of the Indian ruler. And I'm fascinated. So now this is my Chuck Berry of bow hunting. I was already gung-ho guitar, gung-ho bows and arrows. We all got Daisy Red Rider BB guns. We all made our own slingshots. I started out with bows and arrows I made myself out of reeds and saplings along the Rouge River.

So just a natural inclination. Projectiles, they've always fascinated mankind. How can you control the projectile? How good of a marksman can you be? I was put in charge of sparrow control with my Daisy Red Rider BB gun in my garage because the sparrows were shitting on the country squire station wagon window, so I would kill the sparrows in the garage.

So I was deep into shooting. And so I met this Fred Bear guy, and eventually I realized that's Fred fucking Bear. Well, he was funny, kind, big, tall, 6'6", something, lanky, and just a natural killer. kind, big, tall, six foot six something, lanky, and just a natural killer. It's a natural, stealthy, sneaky bow hunter. Real slow talking, not to be confused with me, and real easy going, which makes for a great bow hunter. What's John's name that you? Dudley? Yes.

name that you Dudley yes it's a perfect example of a dangerous bowhunter because old John is uh just so unnaturally um relaxed right am I right he's very relaxed I'm not so I have to turn the corner before I go bowhunting yeah so anyhow so Fred Bear invited me into his life and from this little shack my dad was transferred every year I couldn't wait to stop in Grayley and meet old Fred. Every year, we'd stop there. And most years, he was there for the opening October 1st Michigan bow season, which is why Michigan is the number one bow hunting state in America to this day, because of Fred Bear's influence. So I fell in love with Fred Bear as a mentor, as a hero,

and he welcomed me into his life wholeheartedly, even though he told me that his buddies, I don't know about this rock and roll guy, sex, drugs, and rock and roll. I don't know if you want to associate with Nugent. You're a long-haired fellow. Long-haired, hippie-looking dirt dog. But his buddies, Fred told me, he says, no, my buddies said, no, no, Nugent, I heard him on the radio. All he does is promote clean and sober. No, no. Nugent, I've heard him on the radio. All he does is promote clean and sober. All he does is promote the mystical flight of the arrow and being one with your projectile management.

And this guy's high energy and is getting bow hunting promotion to people who will never hear of you. And Fred Bear actually said every sporting event he went to, everybody under 40 always asked him, do you know Ted Nugent? Because I shoot my bow on stage every concert with the Amboy Dukes. I'd always promote hunting. Every interview was supposed to be about a new record. I'd promote my weekend with my mom and dad hunting with a bow and arrow. So I was constantly countering the animal rights lie by promoting conservation, especially the discipline of archery. And so Fred embraced me. Long story short, and I could keep you here for 100 days, in 1987, I did my annual hunt with Fred.

I'd go every year up to a place called Grouse Haven up in Rose City, Michigan, the gateway to the North Country. And we'd be around the campfire and around the fireplace with just all the old guys, Bob Munger, who we went to Africa with so many times and all his buddies. And I just sit around the campfire, just sponging the stories from these guys.

Cause they were pioneers of the new bow hunting challenge versus what Roy Weatherby was developing. You kill a deer at four or five, 600,000 yards, which is a discipline unto itself. That's marksmanship if you dedicate yourself. But bow hunters were looking for something more challenging, more difficult, and more spiritual in understanding your relationship with the animal that the Native Americans always proclaimed, rightly so, that if you dedicate yourself to conscientious,

stealth, reasoning predator, that the great spirit will provide a shot at the game, which means if you dedicate yourself, you can earn that shot. Powerful lesson in the industrial explosion to go back to a primal scream yeah so then in in in april of 88 after our last hunt in 87 and fred i didn't even go hunting i just stayed with fred because he was on an oxygen tank he carried it around i just hung out with fred very emotional because he was so powerful in all of our lives he's a huge force and he told me to keep doing what i do promoting

hunting in a rock and roll way because he got the word out to people who would never hear it at the show right um and then that next april he died and it was a a force wave of heartbreak just he meant so much to so many people and so one morning i was going out to do my chores like i do every morning but instead i stopped and I came in the house and that song happened. Wow. Wow. And I called my guys, Gunnar Ross, who died today. And I said, Mike, get a studio. Something's happening. And my guys know how serious I am. He goes, it's not like he's no, what's happening, man. Okay, hang on, I'll get a studio. So we got in the studio and recorded that song. And it's so powerful in people's lives.

Did you find that Pope and Young video? This is the best I could find. Let's see it. 1926 Grizzly Bear. How'd you do that? Wow, 1926 Grizzly. How'd you do that? This is awesome. Wow, 1926 Grizzly bear. You've got to be kidding me.

Can't be sounding on it, but. Watch him. There he is. Look at his hat. That's Saxton Pope right there, I think. A gentleman's hat. Look at the quiver tucked under his armpit. By the way, what kind of balls do you have to hunt a fucking bear with a recurve in the

1920s? And look at those bears getting up to try to find out what the hell he is watch him he missed oh no the bear's like we're getting the fuck out of here there he got him in the second arrow wow look how long the arrows are yeah you got to have a titan you got to have T-Rex scrotum to take that shit on. Yeah, I mean, look at the boots. Look at the clothes. 1920s.

Is that awesome? There's a big close-up on the arrow here. It's crazy. That was even before me, Joe. This is wild that they were interested in doing that. They were interested in bow hunting. Look at the fucking arrow. Wow, that is

wild that's wild yep 1926 see if you could find any Fred bear footage there's a lot of that on there see if you can find Fred bear hunting moose I've seen that video yes so I've been in the i i got to play bass for chuck berry and beau diddly i got to bow hunt with fred bear that's pretty awesome i went around the indie track in a roush mustang with parnelli jones at the wheel i was trained on off-road racing by mickey thompson and roger mirrors there he is and ivan ironman there's fred i like how he's putting stuff on his face he's camouflaging his face with his flannel shirt on he's got sticks in his hat the old school hat do you ever hunt with a hat like

that i have not i have put debris i have put vegetation in my hat emulating old fred so he's got a it seems like he's got a camo uh that's a stag huh or a Or a caribou. It seems like he's got some kind of camo on, right? No, that's just a Pendleton plaid shirt, which is... But he put something on over the plaid shirt. When we started... Okay, that is just a plaid shirt. When we started, there was no camo. You wore military camo, and then eventually mossy oak.

Now I wear mossy oak, and there's all kinds of camo out there. Were they the first guys to all kinds of camo out were they the first guys to come out with camo for um i think uh grumbly uh is that not camo he's wearing because look at his pants pant looks like uh woodland camo yeah there's some camo so he had some kind of camo on back then this is probably in the 50s yeah and look at this he's got a quiver mounted to the side of his bow, too. He invented that. Was that one of the first ones?

He invented that. That's his invention. And is bear archery, is that from him? Yeah, he started it, yeah. Wow. Let me emphasize this to all your listeners. All of Joe Rogan's listeners, please take heed. If you want to find the beast of your spirit, and when I say beast, I mean

the best of the best of you, get a bow and arrow. Find a bow that is comfortable and graceful. Even if it's in your living room at 10 feet with the proper backstop, so I train my children, do not underestimate the power of spiritual growth available just by getting Mr. Left Hand to be one with Mr. Right Hand as guided by the oneness of Mr. Brain and Mr. Eyeball and see if you can put the arrow of your life in the spot of your desires. I swear to God, Joe, I don't care if you're a cop or a teacher

or a butcher or a mechanic or a plumber or a carpenter or a radio dude. I don't care what you do in life. Whatever point you're at today, within a few days of really discovering your arrow control, whatever you pursue, you will be better at incrementally as you become one with the mystical flight of your arrow, especially young people. I think it's an amazing form of meditation.

Meditation to fit? I can't find a better one. Yeah. It's so difficult to do that. And you don't have to even hunt. Just shoot at a target. Yes. Find a bullseye. Find the bullseye of your life. But you should hunt you should hunt it's so difficult and people don't realize how difficult it is to have perfect form and archery and how to execute a perfect shot especially in the field under hunting conditions because form goes to shit it's not the olympic range but you have to discover how you can control manipulate control, manipulate, manage that form in an awkward field position so that from the waist to the face, from your waist to the face, you can control your form no matter how awkward

the position may be. And that's the trick to consistent accuracy with a bow and arrow. And it doesn't matter whether it's a compound or a longbow or an old recurve bow. compound or a longbow or an old recurve bow, to become consistently efficient with an old-fashioned long or recurve bow is one of the most joyous, fulfilling, gratifying accomplishments in life because it's a bitch. Yeah, it's a lot harder, right, with a recurve or a longbow, any kind of traditional archery bow, a lot harder to be more accurate. But it's also there's something about the satisfaction of being accurate that's even more accentuated, right? Sure.

It is accentuated, no doubt about it. And I'm not dismissing. I shoot a compound 99% of the time. I shoot a Matthews that's lightweight, 50 pounds. It's graceful. It feels like a recurve because I'm at full draw under graceful conditions. And I know that Cameron and you shoot heavy bows because you're strong, but archery has to be graceful. You have to be able to.

It's not weightlifting. It's stealth and grace. You need to find a bow that is easy to draw, easy to come to full draw and make sure that your full draw stops at your face, not back here. If it's too long of a draw, especially the compound, because it has a let off. And if it's let off too far back, you'll never have form because it's supposed to be hand-eye coordination. And if you're anchoring back here, your eye's out of the equation now. So in Texas, there's a lot of great archery shops all across America. There's great archery shops.

Yeah, shout out to Archery Country right here in Austin. What's the name of it? Archery Country. Archery Country. It's a great shop, a really great shop. Matthews was the first to come up with a compound, right? No. Was it?

No, Allen, the Allen compound. From Allen Archery, like the guys who make Still Stuff today? I don't know. Allen. And my first one was, geez, why can't I remember? I bought it in 1977. Anyhow. I thought it was Matthews that had the patent.

No. It is. The compound bow was developed in 1966 by- Wilbur Allen. Wilbur Allen in northern Kansas. I just got that right. North Kansas City, Missouri. A US patent was granted in 1969.

The compound bow has become increasingly popular. What is that, Wikipedia? Get the fuck out of here, Wikipedia. Wow, look at that. Look at his first bow. Look at that. That's wild. Yeah.

Look at that photo. That thing's crazy looking. Yeah. That's just engineering ingenuity, you know? That's wild. Yeah. Look at that photo. That thing's crazy looking. Yeah. That's just engineering ingenuity, you know? That fella got no pussy. Look at him. Yeah. Just sitting around shooting bows and arrows all day, obsessed.

There they are. Look at them. Beautiful. Isn't it amazing how things come out of obsession? Like, just look at that guy's face while he's holding that bow. Go back to that picture. That guy had probably been working on that thing. It had probably been in his head for years.

Look how he made it out of wood. But what Matt McPherson of Matthews has done is he's taken engineering to a mad scientist level where the finite measurements of the wheels and the cams, they're so efficient. They are so capable now. It's just incredible that anybody figured this out, that this guy figured this out in 1966. When you look at that bow right there that he's got in his hand, like, look how crazy that contraption is with all those strings. We all hated it. When they first came out we all went what is that's not a bow and everybody shot it with fingers and shot an instinct you

shot instinctive with a all up until just 12 years ago yeah 12 years ago wow and so you brought the bow the arrow up to your eye like eyesight not necessarily i did have it i used three fingers under what they call the apache draw so it was closer to my eye than it eyesight? Not necessarily. I did have it. I used three fingers under what they call the Apache draw. So it was closer to my eye than it was to my corner of my mouth. Like I started, I used the split finger when I started and you see a gap when you do it that way. Can't the bow like Fred bear and everybody did, they can't decide to open up that path to the target and you see the arrow under you and you know that it's going to be rising to come to your eye level, just like a bullet rises to the scope.

And you learn what those gaps are, different yardages. And I got to tell you, when I was a kid, I wish I could shoot today like I did when I was a kid. I couldn't miss. I don't care if it was a flying bird or a running squirrel. I don't care if it was a flying bird or a running squirrel. Just a natural, no baggage, no psychological considerations. Like the samurai warrior said to Tom Cruise when he couldn't quite master the samurai, he went, too many minds. You can't think about some things. You don't think about a 90-yard pass.

a 90-yard pass. I'm not a football fan, but you have to instinctively know what this thrust is to that guy's running and when it will coincide with the receiver. It's a thing with training. I mean, that is the number one thing about martial arts is that you execute based on your training. Yeah. You don't even think about it. Not just muscle memory, but spirit memory.

Yeah. I use the term samurai a lot and i use the term out of body a lot i think bow i think archery is a martial art no question about yeah it really is and i think good guitar playing is a martial the way you do it i really i really do believe that i don't i don't write songs I don't contemplate patterns. I pick up the guitar and things happen based on where I am emotionally, spiritually, cocky, defiantly, easygoing, not easygoing. And those patterns, the new record, I can't rave enough about Detroit Muscle. The songs, there's an instrumental, it's called Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall.

And I'm notorious for instrumentals that have beautiful melodies that grow. Like a song called Earth Tone goes... It's just beautiful. I recognize that from the Spirit of the Wild TV show. And the new album has one called Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall. And just listen to this pattern. One day I got up like I do every day and I went... guitar solo It's where you are. And if you can express sonically and maludiously and make a statement. And I hunt every day.

I do chores every day. I plant trees or I fill feeders or I work on fences. So I have dirt in my hands all the time. And when I sit down, I didn't sit down and go, hey, a neat title for a song would be Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall. What would that sound like? No, I just play. And after I played it, I realized that I'm playing my life in a year.

Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall. What do I do in the winter? I'm continuing to harvest because come spring, there's going to be regrowth and planting. Summer, ideal conditions for the growth of that spring planting. Fall, harvest. growth and planting summer ideal conditions for the growth of that spring planting fall harvest so if ever there was an organic musical consciousness it's me can i ask you again about um why did you switch from uh using instinctive with fingers to using a release and a sight? Old man's eyeballs. I started missing. My buddy Brian Shootback, just a guru of archery, runs a little,

actually quite a sporting goods store in Jackson, Michigan, Shootback Sporting Goods. People come from hundreds of miles to let Brian and his team set up their bows because they're dedicated archery craftsmen engineers. Because on a compound bow, it really is a mechanical beast. And everything has to be timed really specifically, the wheels, the cams, the tiller between the limbs and the string, the way the cables connect, where the arrow comes out, where the rest allows the arrow to come out straight. And so Brian Shupak, I would call him and say, I missed a fucking buck this morning again.

He goes, let me set you up a bow with a peep sight. I go, no, I can't do that. He goes, I'm setting you one up. Just use it. So he set it up and a peep sight but no no no housing no no actually it had a peep and a pin oh i had one pin and it had a loop and a release the whole moderns you'd never use a loop before then so you'd been hunting for how long without a d-loop what 50 years 50 years well how apprehensive were you to try to switch over and change um i respect brian and i was really frustrated slash angry at making bad shots not all the time but enough to me off. Because to get a close range encounter on

a Michigan whitetail is one of the most impossible tasks under the sun. These animals are born looking for guitar players in trees. They're twitchy. They're so spooky. Whitetails are so smart. Especially the Michigan ones, because they've been hunting since they were born. Anyhow, so I respected Brian's recommendation, but it was difficult for me because instead of the smoothness of looking at my target and coming up muscle memory, let go now, I'd have to find the pin in the peep and hang on for a second, which is really contrary to my shooting system. But within a couple days, I stuck with it, and, boy, I was zapping them right in there

because once that pin and that peep is there, if you can control Mr. Right Hand and Mr. Trigger Finger like a rifle shot. Right. Breathing, sight acquisition, pin in the peep, on the spot, okay, do it. Did you ever fuck around with hinges?

Did you ever use like back tension releases or anything? I have. Yeah? Couldn't do it. Why couldn't you do it? I'm here to admit Joe Rogan live on the Joe Rogan podcast experience. I, Ted Nugent, have target panic. A lot of people do.

I have it, but I manage it with that right hand thing. Mr. Right Hand, when I draw down on a target or a deer, I think, first of all, I have an orange square on every target. I have a day glow orange tape on all my 3D targets. I shoot out to 60 yards.

And I have my pins set accordingly. And as I draw down, I have an orange tape on my bow. So it reminds me, orange tape. Okay, we're just going for the orange tape. It's not a buck. It's not a target. It's not a bullseye. Okay, orange tape, he missed a right hand. Remember, it's all about the orange tape. I've actually cured people, not cured, but help them manage target panic, which means you freeze off target and desperation, you fling. It's a curse.

Most Olympic guys have had, most archers have, get it at one point or another. And so when I shoot now, I shoot various Matthews bows and they're lightweight, 50 pounds. And I shoot, mostly shoot two blade broadheads. And I go orange tape on bow okay or that's right just orange tape just just we're going for the orange tape it's not that big of a deal all right Mr. Right Hand not yet not yet not yet not yet not yet okay and I zap the shit out of it's just awesome but I had to have a diversion reference to orange tape. I swear to God, Joe, when I shot at Buck two days ago,

a real Buck, a live Buck, I saw the orange tape on his crease. Now, did you have any target panic when you were using fingers and you were shooting instinctive? No, it just became down to the trigger. So beautiful. Have you ever paid attention to, do you know Joel Turner, the Shot IQ system? I don't. I know this.

Do you know who he is? He's got a really good website, and he used to be, I think he still does, he works with SWAT teams, and he trains people in the difference between open loop and closed loop thinking. So why? It trains people in the difference between open loop and closed loop thinking. And that in open loop thinking, I always fuck these two up. I believe open loop is like swinging a baseball bat. Like the ball comes and you swing, and at no point in time can you stop it. Like you're just swinging, right?

You're not going to check it. But a closed loop is like you're in complete control of every movement through the entire process, and you're thinking yourself through it. But a closed loop is like you're in complete control of every movement through the entire process and you're thinking yourself through it. And what he does is he has like a mantra that he talks you through. And the idea is to keep your mind conscious and to keep yourself from being just working on reflexes, just like hitting anxiety and then punching the trigger. And instead of doing that, you work through your shot process and you achieve a surprise shot and one of the ways you do that is by keeping your mind on a mantra and talking and i think his you know his not yet mr right hand yeah yeah and then he talks you through this

the thing that he does the way he says it um it works yeah i think his is drawback and aim get it done watch it to keep it and the idea of watch it to keep it is like follow that arrow like watch become you know like remy warren says be the arrow stay on your form to the arrow hits yeah and this idea of keeping that that conversation constantly going in your mind keeps your mind on conscious thought rather than going on instinct and yeah it's helped me tremendously good but one thing that's helped me tremendously is a hinge i started shooting with a hinge and i shot hinge yeah in other words where uh it it won't release the arrow till you finish your back tension exactly and i use dudley's I use this one called Too Smooth.

God damn, I love this thing. It's amazing. I'd love to try that. Hey, John, send me one of them. I'll have them send you one. I wish I'd known. I would have brought one. It's called a hinge. Yeah, the idea is that the release comes from the movement of your hand. Yes. Right?

And there's like a little click. I hear it like when I get to like right here, I'm pulling my fingers back, I hear a little click and I know all I have to do is just pull with my back muscles and it'll go off. Sure. And I have no idea when it's going to go off, but it's going to go off. That's it right there. Oh, there you go. I love that damn thing.

And I shot the biggest elk I've ever shot in my life this year with that hinge. Well, you know, you mentioned the click. Yeah. There was, back in the old days during longbow and recurve competition, there was what's called the clicker. Are you aware of that? Yes. Where it goes on the top of the limb, and you come to full draw, but this little spring

steel piece of steel is against the string, and you have to finish your draw with the same back tension. Right. And when you hear that little click come off the string, you let go. Yes. So there's a lot of, there's deep psychology to definitive archery. Yes. Yes, there really is.

Talk to any Olympic archer and they'll tell you that archery accuracy is 99% mental. Anybody can grab the bow. Anybody can hold the string, and anybody can pull it back to discover form. Archery form is critical, especially on the Olympic line, especially when there's an elk out there, especially if it's further than 30 yards. But that form, it's when you execute the shot that is all mental

and especially it's a fucking elk and it's a great big one what the fuck it becomes it's like there's no world there's only that fucking elk and you gotta hit him in the crease

and sometimes people shoot the antlers because that's what they're thinking about which is nuts well I've studied all the shootings and typically in a shootout between good guys and bad guys, you get this tacky psyche where the whole world is towards the weapon. And they typically shoot the weapon, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but not the best thing. Not the best thing. Yeah best thing yeah it's it's when you are shooting a target whether it's an elk or whether it's a target

just a 3d target are you looking at your pin are you looking at the spot you want to hit the spot I want to hit yeah that's a weird thing too right it's different that's where the airy man's eyes it's also very different than a rifle yeah right if you're shooting with a rifle you want to Center that reticle and you just squeeze squeeze squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, boom. Ultimately, that reticle, and my grandson shot a beautiful doe yesterday with my GA Precision 308 from George Gardner out of Kansas City. He wins all the long-range stuff. He just creates one of the most accurate rifles on the planet.

Plus, I got a new one from the U.S. Marine Armor that I haven't even shot yet. I'm such a lucky guy. But anyhow, I do a lot of shooting. I do a lot of training every day. I shoot my handguns every day, and I shoot long range every day. And it is a conflict because on long range, you don't want to waste your time on that little plate. You want to see those crosshairs because the plate's so small at that long range even with a 24 magnification so hand-eye coordination spirit breathing sight control you get a good rest obviously every time with a bow and arrow you don't get a rest and this guy this guy's in charge of your life that finger hey mr right hand all right mr now

here's one thing you probably like to shoot long-range rifle stuff don't pull the trigger anymore with your finger get that finger on the trigger know when it's going to go off and wrap that finger on just like a release but squeeze your whole hand because when you squeeze your trigger finger you're actually pulling to the side it's not coming straight back you can discover that but if you use you squeeze your whole hand you get your finger on the trigger and you squeeze your whole hand that trigger figure is going to come back and it just seems to work really good for me you know lee lukowski right i know the name

yeah from that show oh yeah from the leah tiffany he's a killer he is a killer um he was i had a nice long conversation with him in l camp we shared l camp this year and he was telling me that he has uh he shoots with a carter target four right and he gets that the the trigger in his thumb and he makes a fist so that's a thumb release yeah it's a yeah i use that off and trigger in his thumb and he makes a fist so he doesn't that's a thumb release yeah it's a yeah i use that off and on too the thumb goes in the hook of his thumb that's what he's talking about the whole hand yeah he doesn't shoot with the thumb he just makes a fist yes and he just practices that so often and he's been shooting with that same release for 20 plus years that's muscle memory and shot sequence management. It's all

about shot sequence management. No increments of the shot sequence are isolated. They're all relative with the bow and arrow or a firearm. You have to have a muscle memory. And the only way you achieve that is repetition, repetition, shoot every day. You got to shoot every day. That's why I mentioned a little while ago, if you get into archery, I don't have any place to shoot. Your living room. Well, you don't expect me to shoot a bow in the living room, do you? Yes, that's where I shoot my bow.

I shoot my bow in every hotel on tour every year for the last 50 years. You bring your bow on tour? Yeah. What do you do? Do you put up a target? I got a little target, a little tiny ball, but it's right there. But what am I practicing? Shot sequence.

It doesn't matter whether it's an elk at 40 yards or a ball at 10 feet. This guy has got to be, like when you pick up the guitar, I don't have to look where I'm going to play. I know where the strings are and I know where the frets are because I do it all the time since about 1949. Same with the bow and arrow. I think it's probably more crucial with the bow and arrow. But as I tell everybody, I'm doing a masterclass, a rock and roll fantasy camp masterclass. When is it? December 8th. Anyhow, you book this master class with me and I explained how to express yourself on a guitar.

Quite honestly, on anything. Do they transfer over? Like the idea of expressing yourself with a bow and arrow, expressing yourself with a guitar? Same. If you're a great welder, same. A great electrician, same. Great mechanic. Speaking of samurai, Miyamoto Musashi said that.

Yes. Once you understand the way broadly you will see it in all things yes in all things now see i didn't know that but i knew that yeah instead i'm an instinctive guy my instincts rule my life they're they're tuned in they've walked wild grounds they've got you honor those, like you treat them with respect. I genuflect at the altar of my instinct. And in the hotel room or in your living room, you can do archery. When you first start, you might want to get a big backstop. But my kids learned archery and marksmanship in the living room with Daisy Red Rider BB gun,

shooting at closed pins in the fireplace with a bunch of cardboard behind it. Why not? in the fireplace with a bunch of cardboard behind it. Why not? Archery will only be optimized repetition, repetition, I think anything in life. Guitar for sure, music, all the important things like welding and mechanics. How about mechanics? Don't you just worship great mechanics?

I do. I worship these people. I was going to bring my 1970 Chevelle here, but unfortunately. What's under the hood on that? A 454. That's awesome. You saw my fighter jet out there? What do you got out there? I got a brand new, it's just so much fun, Dodge Challenger Hellcat Supersport wide body

red eye 840 horse. Oh, yeah. And based on what's in the trunk, it is a fighter jet. I have a Ram TRX. That's what I drove today. That's a great truck. Yeah. Except it's got a governor on it.

It won't go more than 118 miles an hour. Get rid of that. You got to get it from Hennessy. That's right. Hennessy changes everything. But I'm a high performer. I love high performance. I do, too.

I know you do. That's why I was going to bring it. But I had to go somewhere afterwards, and I can't park the Chevelle anywhere. Yeah. It's like a high performer. I love high performance. I do, too. I know you do. That's why I was going to bring it. But I had to go somewhere afterwards, and I can't park the Chevelle anywhere. Yeah. It's like a velvet prison. I can't just leave it somewhere. A 70? Yeah.

And all rebuilt? Best suspension? Oh, everything. Who did it? Yeah, Roadster Shop. Yeah. Awesome. I got a 74 Bronco that the Texas Metal Maniacs got.

I know you do. Yeah, you have a great collection of cars your your love for broncos i love horsepower 72 i i got a i got a 66 completely frame off rebuild but stock yeah except for the improvements suspension drivetrain i got a 74 that the Texas Metal Maniac gods of thunder have created for me that is just a snort monster. I got an 82 with 90 body parts that Brian Shupak and Dave Miller, you got to go for a ride with me in this thing. It's got a Roush Yates 800 horsepower, got Curry axles. I could take it to Baja and just crush. It's so powerful.

It's so performance. There's something about those American muscle cars, too. American muscle is just a sound. Except the American muscle car from the muscle car era, which I missed out on because I was Tuesday buying station wagons for the Amboy Dukes, I've more than made up for it because the hottest, most powerful muscle car from the muscle car era couldn't touch this fire-breathing Hellcat Redeye. No. Can't touch it.

Not even close. Not even close. So once I found out that Dodge was producing 700, 800, 840 horses from the factory, I immediately called him and said, I need a couple of these. You're going to hate this. What can't touch any of these cars is my Tesla. That's what I know. Everybody tells me that.

I have a Tesla Model S Plaid, the new one. Jesus Christ. Zero to 100 in four seconds? It's zero to 120 in four seconds. It's zero to 120 in four seconds. It's zero to 60 in 1.9. It's a time machine. Like, it doesn't make any sense. Like, when you merge into traffic.

I love that part. It's fucking insanity. Well, it's like this Hellcat, Red Eye, whatever I want to go, yeah, I'm there. They don't even know I'm in town. This thing is silent. I know it's outrageous.

That's what's the most fucked up part about it. You don't even feel obnoxious. Outrageous. Like when you stomp on the gas on the TRX, it's like... I love that. It's just roar. I love it too. But there's something special about doing it in total silence.

The opening lick of my new record, Detroit Muscle, says, Strap your ass in. I got a fire-breathing Mopar. Downtown Detroit is like a rock and roll dream. Kick out the jams if you really want to go far. Motor City Soul gonna make you scream. Every night down at Woodward and Telegraph, every red light is like a drag race hell. It talks all about the Detroit fire of muscle cars.

They're canceling the Hellcat engine. There's what? They're canceling the Hellcat engine. I know, I saw that. So does that mean they're going to continue the demon? I don't think so. I think they're going to go all electric. Think it's over?

They're going to go all electric. Everything's going electric. Fucking idiots. So Joe, let me ask you, all the lithium batteries, where are they going? They're conflict minerals. They come from the ground, Ted, and you got to get them from really fucked up places in the world. Who convinced these idiots that this is right? I think the

idea is the emissions are better. So it is better for our air, but as far as like what it does for the environment and what it does for conflict and what it does, I mean, you- Negative. All negative. You have to get that stuff. All negative. I mean, there's the places in the world where lithium is very plentiful or just some sketchy-ass places.

And our enemies own it all. Yeah, a lot of them, yeah. I mean, Afghanistan is a huge place where they get lithium. Afghanistan has a massive supply of lithium, but a lot of it is taken from Africa has a lot of it. There's a lot of different areas where people are mining for lithium, and there's a finite amount of it too. They were worried about running out of oil, which they never did, but they were worried at one point in time before they figured out how to do fracking and a lot of other stuff. And then they figured out that there was more reserves than they thought there were. But they kind of run out of minerals too, I'm sure, unless they figure out how to recycle

them, the ones that we have. I like horsepower. My one Bronco is tuned up. It's about 800 yards to the gallon. The thing is the sound. The sound is so fucking beautiful. The Hellcat is so beautiful. Roush Yates V8s. So beautiful. I love them all, but the old

sound is the best sound. Yep. The old sound, like I have a 1970 Barracuda. You hear that thing fucking fire. It's awesome. Yeah, but the new ones are just as good. They're amazing. I think the new Mopars are just as good as the old ones. It's like having sex with a condom on. It's all coming through

somewhere. I wouldn't know. 1970 Chevelle SS found parked on a garage since 1978. Is that yours? No. What? That's insane. I'm just looking in six days ago, the story came out. Oh, my God. 454 or 396? It's a 454.

Oh, my God. That's the one. Well, how about this, Joe? Oh, my God. That's incredible. How about you could get a 454 in a Corvette in 1974 that put out 190 horse? They were dog shit. Isn't that hilarious?

Absolute embarrassment. But that was after the gas crisis, right? I know, but still, kiss my ass. So horrible. If we can get a horse per cube, if we can now get almost two horses per cube, what were they thinking back then? Well, back then, everybody lost their fucking mind when they had to wait in line for gas. During that whole gas crisis era, America fell apart.

The golden age for American muscle cars, in my opinion, is between 65 and with a Barracuda, you can get to 71. After 71, things start getting real slippery. They just start looking like shit. You could get a Mercury Comet Caliente with a 411 rear end, 427 that rated at over 450 horse with a hearse four speed on the floor for like three grand. Oh, my God. What was three grand in today's dollars? What was that in today's dollars if you're like accounting for inflation? 80.

80 grand. That makes sense. My first Bronco, 1970, my first Bronco, three grand. Brand new, right off the showroom floor. Wow. Those cars. Now, you get that same view? $100,000.

$3,000 in 1970 is worth, oh, it's only worth $21,000 today. Oh, that's not that bad. Nicely done, Jamie. Just a random calculation. Jamie is a technician. I have no idea how he does that. Jamie's the master. That's not that bad. That's actually really reasonable. It's just a random calculator. Jamie is a technician. I have no idea how he does that. Jamie's the master. That's not that bad.

That's actually really reasonable. It is Jamie, right? Yeah. See, Jamie is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. If you want to play killer guitar, you've got to do it every day. If you want to be a great welder, you've got to do it every day. If you want to be a great technician in the Google world, you've got to do it every day like Jamie does. A big salute to you, Jamie.

You are the samurai of Googleology or whatever the hell it is. Do you use DuckDuckGo at all, Jamie? You should. They don't track you that way. When you're Googling something sketchy, you might want to go over to DuckDuckGo. I know some of the landmines you've got to watch out for when you're Googling. I have no idea how to work that shit. I'm glad I just have this thing on my phone that you gave me the address,

and I punched it in, and Rocco, my son, showed me how to put it on the screen, told me where to go. I remember in the old days, you have to stop at a pay phone, have to stop at the golf station, get out a map and find where you're going. It was awesome. I'm so glad I paid my dues in the 60s and 70s. You had to improvise, adapt and overcome. You had to be a critical thinker. You had to read maps.

You have to know how to get from point A to point B when there was only a map at the shell station i'm so glad i busted my ass people consider it a struggle it wasn't a struggle it was a fucking orgy it was a riot it was so much fun unbelievably hard work yes but so invigorating so titillating so stimulating so intriguing every we played 350 concerts a year from 67 through 74 350 yes we played 10 days off a year i dared my booking agent to let us have a day off we play 40 50 shows in a row oh my god and i drove all of them i did all the driving i set up the equipment i booked the holiday and holiday in was a three-folder brochure, and I could find the ones that were $9.95 a night. We'd get one room, and we'd all stay in the same room. Oh, my God. When we stayed in a room, typically, it was on the road the whole time everybody slept in the car. Wow. What a riot I've had,

and I'd never do it again. I couldn't. I couldn't possibly survive that now. When I go on tour next summer to make up for last year and this year, God damn it, are we horny to play. Again, Jason Heartless on drums, Greg Smith on bass, my crew, Linda, Doug, Bobby, my crew, if the

military operated like my rock and roll machine, we'd win every war and we wouldn't go to any illegal ones. I have the best band, the best crew, the best team, the best management. So efficient. Their job description, I was telling your buddy Jeff here. That's my brother's name. I was telling Jeff.

I asked him what he does, and he goes, a little bit of everything. I went, you could work with me because everybody in my life, the job description is, yes, I can do that. And if I can, I'll figure it out and be able to in three minutes. Yeah, that sounds like Jeff. Now, when you talk to a guy like you that's been doing something like playing music for as long as you have and you still love it as much as you do, that makes me very happy. It really does. It makes me very happy it really does it makes me so i love that when people appreciate what they do and love what they do and and feel like they're in the right line of business the

saddest shit in the world is when you're talking to someone who doesn't like what they do but let me let me comment i think that's why i'm here you know who i adore and worship and pray for and am inspired by? Kamala Harris? Yes, because once you identify that level of evil, you know you have to fight for good. Sorry to interrupt. Who do you love? That was a good one because my response was even better. My point is, you know who I worship? The rush hour motherfuckers of America. The people at the checkout counter at the grocery store, the people at the at the stores, the mechanics, the people who bust their ass to go in. Some of them really love the mechanic work. They really love being a chef. But some of them don't.

But they still do it. They know they have to be self-sufficient they know they have to be productive they know and i know these people and i am so humbled and honored that i've been able to pursue my my cravings not just my preferences i i i couldn't not play music it it's it's it's who and what i am i couldn't not go bow hunting It's who and what I am. I couldn't not go bow hunting. It's my heartbeat. But a lot of people bust their ass to be a good checkout guy and a good mechanic and a good janitor and a good... And they're not really in love with it, but they do it every day.

it, but they do it every day. And as I come here today, driving down 35, which by the way, you must know how much I love you because I would not do this. I would not go down I-35 for just anybody. Is I-35 bad? Well, today's the first time I've driven it since probably a year ago when the construction was still just a death wish. But my far tree stand is a pain in the ass for me to get to. I don't go anywhere. But to express myself as Joe Rogan, I'm more than happy to. So, to me, coming from Los Angeles, these highways are a dream here. There's no one here. It is a dream.

Coming from Los Angeles, yes. It's so much better. My point is, is that we have to give a huge, heartfelt, gonzo salute to the working army of America, because a lot of them don't love their gig, but they still do it. And they're not getting rich. They can still live a good life if they use their head and what they spend their money on and how the how the improvised app to overcome and use their heads and i know all these people i i i have a campfire every week in september october into november i got a birthday hunt next in two weeks i got a new year's hunt and these people book these hunts with me from every imaginable walk of life from every imaginable

job description from every imaginable ideology this sunrise safaris yes sunrise and so you are you doing this in michigan like where are you where do you have in these we start them in michigan in september october for early november then we come down here and i have my birthday hunt and then my new year's hunt and then i go to the triple seven ranch in hondo for an annual hunt so i book ted nugent hunts and they go to the campfire i play my guitar we bullshit we shoot at the range together and how do people sign up for these they go to sunrise safaris on my website and just any normal person yeah book it book it they sign a waiver i think the waiver says if i if i snap and stab them in the head it's their fault um

a lot like the waiver you tried to get me to sign coming in here, which I will sign after we dissect it. But my point is, is that I know these shit kickers. Right. I hear them. And around my camp, you can tell that there's no inhibitions. Nobody hesitates to tell me anything they believe, whether it's conflicting, suspicious, out of character, out of line. So I get such beautiful feedback, raw, unvarnished, honest feedback about every imaginable from the good, the bad, the ugly,

especially with all the bad and the ugly that the world is producing right now. So I know these people and I know that that hardware store clerk saved money to go hunting with me, and he tells me about his truck and his new rifle, and he's a hardware clerk. I know how these people operate. They're frugal. They're smart. Their work ethic is godlike. And they're my campfire and they shared what

Fred bear means what stranglehold means what what my music means to them what freedom means to them what the First Amendment means to them what the Second Amendment means to them how distrusting the government is how they love their family how they love their daughter at the volleyball. I mean, I get such a totality of input from just great shit-kicker Americans that when I speak, it's not Ted Nugent stuff. It's the accumulation of this raw, honest, unvarnished evidence that goes into my psyche. So when I comment about something, it's not, well, my presumption would be,

I don't presume shit. I hear from, I've been doing this, the campfire thing for almost 40 years. So for 40 years, you've been having these just hunts with random public people. And then the backstage banter. And then the people stop me at the gas station. The people stop me at Whole Foods and at the coffee shop.

And the input, they're uninhibited. And they want to share it with me because they see me saying what they're not even allowed to say. That's what they all, almost all of them reference that. God, I wish I could say what you said. I'd get fucking fired if I said it. Thank you so much. That's the real problem with the job, right? That's the real problem.

It's being able to express your opinion. This is very hard. Yeah. That's a giant and harder so today because of social media. I mean, people are getting fired for stuff they said on their social media 10 years ago. Unbelievable. Yeah. And particularly today with like, it doesn't even have to be controversial. I was talking to this guy,

Dr. Mike Hart from Canada, a guy who's been on my show today before in the past. And he was telling me that he posted something on LinkedIn and it was just a study showing how people should take vitamin D and it was associating high levels of vitamin D with positive COVID-19 outputs. So far, so good. That's it. It was just a scientific paper he shared on LinkedIn, and it got banned. Like, they pulled it down. Fuck, to a motherfucker.

There was nothing. I go, send me what you wrote. Like, I'll read it to you because it's so fucking crazy. Isn't that heartbreaking? Here it is. This me what you wrote. I'll read it to you because it's so fucking crazy. Isn't that heartbreaking? Here it is. This is what he wrote. Vitamin D treatment shortened hospital stay and decreased mortality in COVID cases, even the existence of comorbidities.

Vitamin D supplementation is effective on various target parameters. Therefore, it's essential for COVID-19 treatment. It's a PubMed study. It's a peer-reviewed study. And it is in no way anti-vaccine. It's in no way anything. There's a peer-reviewed study. And it is in no way anti-vaccine. It's in no way anything. There's nothing negative about it at all. It's just saying that vitamin D is very important to your immune system.

So he publishes this, and it gets pulled from LinkedIn. They literally said, you know, we're pulling this down. It's been removed because it goes against our professional community policies. Sure it does. Like, what the fuck does that even mean? This guy's a doctor. He's a fucking medical, he's an MD. They're professional devil policy.

I mean, how evil can you, it's not to be understood. There is evil in this world, and when you have someone recommending an upgrade procedure for quality health and someone bans it, the people who bans that recommended upgrade for quality health is pure fucking evil. That's all you need to understand. There's a narrative. Holy shit.

There's a narrative now. Hey, Jeff or Josh, bring me some water. There's water right here, buddy. Is there water? Yeah, there's water in that there for you. That's it. Never mind, Jeff and Josh. You got it.

There's no reason why anybody should not be able to talk about things that are helpful and the narrative today is it's either the vaccine or nothing and anything that shows you that you're healthier because of it in some way or another could increase vaccine hesitancy like they they want you to be sick unless you take a vaccine it's really strange cruel evil hateful rotten to the core that whole leftist agenda that media academia big tech censorship hollywood it's fucking strange rotten it's not really strange. It's strange in America because it's never been this horrible. But historically, this level of evil and rot has existed. If you're aware of the Trail of Tears or the Bataan Death March or the Rape of Nanking,

if you're not aware of that stuff, then this would be shocking to you. But if you're aware of the depth of evil and cruelty and demonicy of mankind, then this is nothing different than the history of evil and cruelty and demonicy of mankind. And that describes the left. How did it come out like this, though? Because the left was all about, like, make love, not war. I don't think so. But what happened? happened like what why did it shift to this totalitarian like ideology that must be subscribed to and then this this giving into authority which is weird i will not comply joe i'm here to help

you know i'm here to help and i do respect your elders yes do not bother yourself with the big question, why? Just acknowledge if the guy is breaking into your house, you have to shoot him. You don't need to know why he's breaking into your house. I know, but I'm a curious person. I just don't understand how so many people are going along with this. I understand that it's anxiety that goes along with the pandemic, and there's also this desire to not be attacked, so you attack others. I get that i get i get all the psychological mechanisms that are at play that allow people to fall into this sort of

totalitarian thinking because the the totalitarian thinking is so strange to me that it's coming from the left that they're giving in to this authoritarianism they're giving into this idea that the government is your friend and the pharmaceutical companies are looking out for your best interest. It's the craziest thing ever to have that come from the most educated. I mean, if you look at traditionally, the people on the left traditionally have the most education. They might not be the most intelligent. Where'd that education come from or what is the content of that education? Where did that education come from or what is the content of that education? For sure.

But it's still, in their eyes, throughout history, if you talk to people, if you talk to people in the 1990s from the left and you ask them, do you trust the pharmaceutical companies, they'd be like, fuck no. If you talk to people in the 2000s that were dealing with the opioid crisis and all the other issues, I mean, if you watch that show Dope Sick, if you see the depths that these pharmaceutical companies have gone to in order to sell poison to people and to talk to people and lie to them to tell them this poison is not addictive and to trick politicians. And I have a friend who used to be a sales rep, and he and I were talking about this the other

day, and he used to be a sales rep for pharmaceutical companies and he said they would tell him you are going to be best friends with that doctor. You're going to know his fucking kids' names. You're going to show up at his kids' games. You're going to get them free tickets to baseball games. You're going to get them free meals. You're going to do whatever you can

to get inside their good graces and the idea is to get them to prescribe as much of our drugs as possible and he was i had never heard this i i knew that he had done something in the pharmaceutical industry but i didn't know how deep it was and he and i had this conversation about it it was mind-blowing and he's your friend because his conscience kicked in yeah well he's not in that business at all that's my point his conscience kicked he was young he was like 21 years old when he was doing this, like fresh out of college. Well, the movie The Fugitive.

They manipulate it to become rich and in control, and they could give a shit about how many lives are lost. But when he was explaining how this guy makes this amount of money because he sells this amount, and he has this, and they had a list down of all the doctors that prescribe the most drugs, and all the doctors that will prescribe the most SSRIs, the most painkillers, the most anti-anxiety medication. And that they're just fucking handing this shit out like candy. And they're being encouraged to do this from these pharmaceutical companies. Sort of paid, but not really.

It's a lot of it is influence. A lot of it is influence through giving them free things, giving them free meals. It is. But it's also like they develop this reputation and this relationship with these doctors and these nurses. And they take everyone to dinner. And then when someone comes along, they go, well, Pfizer is your friend. Pfizer is my friend. And the next thing you know, they're prescribing whatever the fuck Pfizer is selling.

Mankind is so capable of soulless weakness where you can buy their soul. You can buy their decision. You can have them look away from their morals to enrich and empower themselves. But again, when you start asking why, I don't know, why isn't Eric Holder and Barack Obama in prison for killing Brian Terry? I mean, why is Brian Terry was the Michigan border agent that was killed with the guns that Barack Obama and Eric Holder gave to the Mexican drug cartels that killed Brian Terry with? What was that operation called? Yeah, Fast and Furious.

Fast and Furious, that's right. I mean, explain what that was, because it's one of the craziest things. I mean, explain what that was, because it's one of the craziest things. To imagine that they thought this was a good idea. They legally sold, I mean, legally, according to them, sold drugs, or sold guns, rather, to Mexican cartels because they wanted to be able to track them. Yes. They wanted to figure out.

They were so anti-gun, Barack Obama and Eric Holder, two of the biggest punks that ever slithered the earth, that they were going to provide as much firepower to the most evil people, the child molester, the child traffickers, the drug importers, the fentanyl producers. They provided guns to the Mexican drug cartel devils to show that those types of weapons will end up committing crimes in America because they also had the borders open where they could bring the guns that Eric Holder and Barack Obama gave to the drug cartels, American guns, mostly ARs and 1911 45s and 10 millimeters, a lot of Delta elites. They provided them. In fact, Mike, the FFL in Prescott in Phoenix that the FBI and the DEA used to provide all these firearms to the Mexican drug cartels, knowingly claiming,

Eric and Holder, Barack Obama claiming, well, we need to track these guns to show you where they go so we can get the guys that use them illegally. No, that's not what they were doing. They were doing it so that they would use them illegally so they could pass more restrictive gun laws in America. In other words, providing firepower to the Mexican gangs would somehow support the theory that gun control in America would make our streets safer. Is this a theory? This unbinded Terry was shot with one of those SKSs. It was AK-47. control in America would make our streets safer. Is this a theory? Brian Terry was shot with one of those SKSs.

It was AK-47. No, it was not a Kalashnikov machine gun. It was an SKS semi-automatic. Now, is this a theory that this is why they did this? No, it came out. I mean, the book. I got to get the book. I'll get the guy's name.

But is it a theory that this was the motivation for them selling these guns? No, it came out in documents that surfaced. So in documents that surfaced that showed a direct connection between them selling the guns and wanting to pass more restrictive Second Amendment laws? Yep. Hey, anybody who wants to take my guns, fuck you! Whoa, that's strong words from Ted Nugent. I can't believe he's saying that when he handed me this. With a fucking cannon on it.

That's what's hilarious. Mike Deddy, you ready? Fast and Furious, Mike Deddy. Hey, Jamie, get the book by Mike Deddy. I think it might be called Fast and Furious. How do you spell his name? D-E-T-T-Y. Mike Dede, I think it might be called Fast and Furious. How do you spell his name?

D-E-T-T-Y. He filmed the DEA and FBI instructing him to sell guns to known gang members from Mexico. He had cameras in his house as he had mountains of 1911s and Colt AR-15s. As the DEA and FBI. Operation Wide Receiver. Everybody. An informant'siver everybody by the book to expose the corruption

and deceit that led to Operation Fast and Furious Mike Deddy wow Cheryl Atkins did anybody go to jail for that

Operation Fast and Furious no no one went to jail for that and so when you start asking why you'd have to start there why so explain that he had

cameras in his house he had cameras in his house filming and recording the dea and the atf by the way let's let's take a little side trip here shall we okay mr government bureaucrat um we decided the different bureaucracies that we need another bureaucracy to maybe milk some more tax dollars out of the American public and bloat it to such a degree that we have 10,000 people doing the job of nine. Follow me on this. So they had a little meeting one day in a room and we need another bureaucracy. You know, we could probably make it really over bloated and expansive and waste a lot

of tax dollars. But I don't know what the bureaucracy should be about. Somebody in the back room went alcohol. Well, now we don't really need the government should be about. Somebody in the back of the room went, alcohol. Well, now we don't really need, the government doesn't really have anything to say about alcohol, not since the prohibition. So somebody else went, well, that doesn't matter. Let's just have an alcohol bureaucracy.

So the bureaucrats in the room went, yeah, why not? Let's have the Bureau of Alcohol. Somebody in the back of the room went, tobacco, tobacco, throw tobacco in there. What does the government have to do with tobacco? It's just a fucking agriculture crop. We don't have any say in that. Somebody in the room went, we don't need to. Just throw

alcohol and tobacco. So these bureaucrats went, yeah, we could create a giant, bloated, wasteful, arbitrary Bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco. Great. Somebody in the back of the room went, skateboards, skateboards, skateboards.

They went, that's a little far. I don't think we'll ever convince anybody we need to control alcohol, tobacco, and skateboards. So somebody in the back of the room went, guns, throw guns in there. Well, that doesn't really make, what is really alcohol, tobacco, and firearms? That just, there's really, the Second Amendment,

there's no reason to have a bureaucracy, and the people in the room went, what the fuck does that matter? Let's just create a fucking bureaucracy that deals with alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. That is a weird group, isn't it? And so these assholes in the room went, yeah, we could probably start a law enforcement agency

and bloat the shit out of that, and then we could, yeah, we could probably start a law enforcement agency and bloat the shit out of that. And then we could tax and we could have studies and we could go after people and we could infringe. But it says it shall not be infringed. Ah, fuck that. We can infringe if we want to infringe. Joe Rogan, smart, smart man.

Smart man, I dare you to explain why there is such a bureaucracy that deals with alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. It's impossible. It's the kind of numbnut came up with that. By the way, all you ATF agents out there, you soulless pricks. You soulless pricks. How do you not challenge your boss that your agency is against the law in the United States of America? And I know some of these guys, and some of these guys are pretty good guys. But if you were a pretty good bass player, you couldn't be in my band. Because you have to be a really good bass player. You have to be the best bass player.

And you have to be honest. And you have to stand up for what you believe in and all you atf agents and de agents and fbi agents you took an oath to the constitution of the united states of america you punks every day you violate that sacred oath how can you live with yourselves how can you face your children knowing that you support an agency that has to do with alcohol, tobacco, and firearms? Don't you know deep in your soul that that is so stupid and so anti-American that you must have bouts of guilt. And I would recommend that you implement those bouts of guilt and you fight with good Americans to eliminate these illegal, immoral, anti-American,

anti-freedom, oath-violating bureaucracies. I rest my case. And now if you come after me because of my Joe Rogan rant, bring it the fuck on. Wow. How did it start? Some asshole in a room. All in shoelaces. Prohibition. Prohibition?

So it's been going on since the 1930s? The ATF? Well, Nugent's really going to get in trouble now. He ruined it over the top. Fuck you. I'm a free American. If I want to have alcohol, tobacco, or a firearm, there's no man that has any input into that decision-making process. Those are my decisions.

What is the idea of the ATF today? I can't imagine. What function do they serve? I can't imagine. Is that the only regulatory body when it comes to firearms? There are some regulations when it comes to firearms. No, your sheriff department has that control. Your state troopers have that control.

Your city police have that control. But there is federal control, right? There's some federal control of firearms. Yes, but why is there? It's a constitutional right. How does a federal agent think he can control tobacco? Where do you get the authority to control tobacco? The idea is that you need a tobacco stamp, but that's an agriculture thing.

But why? Right? Why do you need a tobacco stamp? Yeah, why do you? Do you need a tomato stamp? Do I need a permit or paperwork or a license for my First Amendment? No, I don't. I guess the idea is all three of them kill people.

I mean, is that the only thing they share in common? It seems like it is. Joe, I have a First Amendment. Yes. Before it was written down. I had it before they wrote it down. How'd you do that? Because I was born with it.

I got it from God. Oh. The Founding Fathers wrote it down because King George and his punks thought that they can control our religions and our speaking. You know, it's interesting what's going on in Australia today. You think? With the over-the-top police state in response to COVID. My whole point.

Yeah, that would not be possible in America under the current laws, way it sits right now because too many people are armed, particularly here. Hallelujah, especially in this room. You wouldn't be able to. You literally wouldn't be able to do that. You wouldn't be able to just roam the streets and lock people down. United States when discussing the Second Amendment, who is so brain dead, soulless, and evil to the core. He is the supposedly commander in chief, president of the United States of America. The one we have now?

Yes, whatever that thing is. Punk. He barely knows he's president, though. That's my point. So he's talking about the Second Amendment not that long ago, recently. And he goes, well, you've got to be kidding me. I mean, you can keep and bear arms, but what are you going to do? We have nuclear weapons.

Let's stop and take a moment and examine the thought process of the president of the United States, instead of supporting the people's god-given individual right is guaranteed by the second amendment to keep and bear arms instead of voicing compassionate freedom loving support for that self-evident truth he threatened us that our second amendment will do no good against the atomic nuclear power of that prick. What? What are you saying? He said your Second Amendment won't do any good because we have nuclear weapons.

Don't you remember that exchange? No, I don't. Well, I'm glad I'm here to remind you. Well, I'll get Jamie to find it. Jamie, find that one. He literally said your Second Amendment. He said. Are they going to nuke the people?

That's my point. What kind of subhuman prick squirrels his way up to the commander-in-chief position, and then instead of voicing support for the self-evident truth that God gave us the right to freedom of speech and keep and bear arms instead of stating that as a representative of the American experiment in self-government He took the enemy's perspective and said your Second Amendment won't do any good because we have nuclear weapons Is that real? Did he really say your question? Just like I believe you I believe you but everything I say is true I believe you that's what Glenn Beck said when I just flabbergasted. Everything I say is true. I believe you.

That's what Glenn Beck said when I said, you know, 96% of violent crimes are repeated. Hold on. I might add, the Second Amendment from the day it was passed limited the type of people who could own a gun. What? What type of weapon you could own. You couldn't buy a cannon. Those who say the blood of patriots, you know, and all the stuff about how we're going to have to move against the government. Well, the tree of liberty is not water in the blood of patriots.

What's happened is that there never been, if you wanted to think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons. The point is that there's always been the ability to limit, rationally limit the type of weapon that can be owned and who can own it. The last time we had data on this issue... Look at that freak. Listen to this man. ...purchasing guns was more than 20 years ago. 5% of gun dealers, it turns out, in the study we did,

showed that 90% of illegal guns were found in the crime scenes sold by 5% of gun dealers. 5% sold 90% of the guns found in the crime scenes. He's already made the statement that our Second Amendment won't do any good unless we have F-15s and nuclear weapons. Taking on the government, that was, I don't even understand what the fuck he's trying to say. He's not there for us to take him on.

He's there to support us. Yeah, he's supposed to work for us. He's supposed to help defend us, not defend against us. He's not supposed to be our boss either. He's supposed to work for us, which is a strange concept for people to get in their head. These people are not supposed to be running us.

They're supposed to be working for us to enhance our life here in America. But this idea that there's always been a restriction on the type of weapons that you could have, that's not true. That's not true at all. It's not in the Constitution. Nope. If you look at the Bill of Rights, if you look at the Second Amendment, it

doesn't say anything about you can't have a cannon. Can't bear arms. It does, yeah. It says the right to a well-armed militia. To keep and bear arms. the the right to a well-armed militia to keep and bear arms the right to form a well-armed militia in the atmosphere of king george's men coming to disarm us yeah and in the atmosphere of the potential tyranny from a corrupt government and if you don't think that it's possible for a corrupt government just look to the past it's it just doesn't mean it's happening right now where you're going to have to take arms

against the government. But there could, and I think until COVID came around and until we saw what's going on in Australia and some other parts of the world where you do see unarmed populations who are being controlled by police states, like look what's happening in Hong Kong, right? Look what's happening in other parts of the world where they don't have any weapons, they don't have any control, and they're being controlled by these totalitarian regimes. Bingo. Yeah. Bingo. This idea of taking up arms, it becomes more and more possible in a lot of people's eyes today when they see the news. Tyrants need unarmed and helpless victims. They do, yeah. And, you know, it's also the way people behave. They behave and think differently when they're governing people that are unarmed.

They really do. Always. Historically, I mean, I never went to college. I was too busy learning stuff. And I've never read many books. I haven't read any books. I think I wrote King Dog of the North. You don't read books at all?

I don't read books. What the fuck? I write books, but I study information, and I communicate with wise people who do know history. And I got to tell you, stuff like the Discovery Channel and the occasional Nova special, when they delve into the history, and even a guy like Tucker Carlson who brings forth unlimited evidence to support his statements, Tucker Carlson, who brings forth unlimited evidence to support his statements. And whether it's footage like the footage of Fast and Furious or whether it's footage of the president claiming that our Second Amendment won't help against the government unless we have F-15s and nuclear weapons. I don't need to know anything more than what I hear from the mouths of suspicious people that are executing tyranny and control over innocent lives. And here's a part of the problem with what he said.

The military is run by regular people. It's regular people that are the army. It's regular people. That's right. We the people. The Marines, the navies, the SEALs, all the Green Berets, the Rangers. Those are regular people. Those are not tyrants.

I've done- Those are us. I've done raids with ATF agents, DEA agents, FBI agents, Texas Rangers. Did you ask them why the tobacco and the alcohol and the firearms were all together? And they don't like it. Of course they don't. They don't like it when I ask them. And they don't like it when I ask them how they face their children.

And they don't like it when I ask them how they could follow somebody like J. Edgar Hoover or James Comey. Right. They don't like it when i ask them how they could follow somebody like j edgar hoover james comey right um they don't like it when i ask them because and here's the horror of it you're ready for the i've said a lot of hard things here today and i've said a lot of lovely buoyant things today a lot of positive stuff yeah you've gotten hills and valleys i think yeah i got this thing called life it's called a roller coaster you know you're all over the place an adventure yeah i'm all over the place. It's an adventure. Yeah, I'm all over the place. I live a full life. God bless me. The FBI agents that decided to commando up and go arrest Roger Stone with the CNN cameras rolling, how do you obey an immoral command like that?

How do you obey an oath-violating command like that? And I know these guys. I hunt with these guys. I train with these guys. I shoot with these guys. I bullshit with these guys. And you know what they say? The horror of horrors,

this is going to be the lowest point of this entire exchange today. I'd lose my pension. Great. Great. So morals be damned. Your conscience is put on hold so you can get a paycheck even though you're violating your fellow Americans' rights. I don't think we can be friends. I'm incapable of that. There's morals. There's conscience. You all know what's right and what's wrong.

there's conscience you all know what's right and what's wrong and there's so many examples whether it's lauren lan horiachi why that prick's not in prison or facing the guy who shot vicky weaver oh this is the ruby ridge yeah so this guy so you can just shoot people really how about the how about the the atf clusterfuck with the branch davidians i mean there's no accountability how about the the heartbreaking tragic oath violating clusterfuck of benghazi so it's that's water under the bridge really so if someone rapes your daughter since she's already raped we don't have to get the guy that did it? No, it's not done till you get the guy that did it, and he's eliminated one way or the other. There is no justice in America, and our court systems, until Kyle Rittenhouse, I didn't think there was any justice left. Thank God for Kyle Rittenhouse. I think you probably read I'm sending him a lifetime supply of good ammo.

That was a moment in time for America where we can take a deep breath and go, thank God a jury in Kenosha still has a soul, a conscience, and they understand glaring right over glaring wrong, glaring good over glaring evil. Is there a story in our lifetime that has had more misrepresentation in the media in terms of like what the narrative is versus what actually happened? Well, maybe when the Huffington Post wrote that I adopted a nine-year-old girl to have sex with. What's her name? The lies they've said about me. Nugent dodged the draft, didn't dodge the draft. Nugent's a racist. My bass player is black. Because they can't debate me, because my speech is so drenched in evidence to support everything I stand for, Pierce Morgan, that they

know they can't debate me. I remember that, the Pierce Morgan thing was fascinating. Because he tried to equate, he was talking about gun violence, but he didn't understand that when he was quoting those numbers, so many of those people that died were killed in the process of committing crime. Yes, or suicide is not a damn thing to do about that. Or suicide with gun violence. So many instances. But I want to get back to the Kyle Rittenhouse thing, though.

It's like, so many people didn't even know that he shot white guys until the trial was almost over. People that I know that I was friends with, they didn't even know that someone had pulled a gun on him. They chased him down. Or that the riots were based on the claim by CNN that the

guy that the cops shot was dead. They didn't kill him. The cops murdered an unarmed black man, a Blake guy, whatever his name was, that the cops were called in Kenosha. This is the Kenosha riots. Which was the impetus of the riots. They murdered an innocent unarmed black man. He's alive. But what happens during a lot of these riots is people that are already bad people use these riots as an excuse to do violent acts. And that's what you saw with the one guy that he shot that was a multiple offender pedophile.

Lifetime. Yeah. I mean, he had raped multiple young kids. I mean, he's a fucking horrible person. A devil. The other guy was a wife beater, a domestic abuser. These guys that were there were horrific people. I get a shout out to you recently. I don't know if anybody told you that, but I gave a shout out to

Michael Berry and Joe Pags and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity and Lars Larson and Mark Davis, all these conservative talk show people, there's a term I beseech you to begin parroting. And it is at the core of all heartbreak, tragedy, and victimization, engineered victimization in America. And the term I coined in a recent, well, it wasn't recent, it was years ago, And the term I coined in a recent, well, not recent, it was years ago, is that based on many uniform crime reports by the FBI, one of the rare moments where they can be trusted, is that upwards of 96% of violent crime, that's a huge number. It's as good as 100% as far as I'm sure. If you're 96% likely to kill an elk on that hunt, you're going to probably kill an elk. 96% of violent crime is committed by repeat offenders. What we are living in today is the scourge of engineered recidivism. The violent offenders that are guaranteed to repeat their crimes are led out by the courts, the judges, the prosecutors,

the parole boards, and the negotiation of early release or plea bargaining. Well, I know he shot a guy, but maybe we can get him to testify against the guy who drove the getaway car. No, no, stop. Engineered recidivism. When you say engineered, do you think this is done on purpose? Yes, it has to be, because you can't not know it. If I was a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist person, I would say that too.

And I'm resisting it with every fucking fiber of my being. As do I. But when I look at shit like what's going on in Los Angeles in particular, where they are letting people out left and right, and you've got armed robberies all over the place. It is nationwide. It's engineered. But I know what L.A. used to be like because I used to live there. It used to be different just five years ago. It was very different.

But the district attorney that they have now, this guy Gascon. Monster. George Soros put him in. Evil's best friend. It's crazy the way they're letting people out of jail. People that commit violent crimes. You were talking to Jackal Rajaco, one of your guys- Jacko Willink?

Yeah, about the shootout, the- Yeah, yeah, the Chicago one, yeah. And on film, here's these guys- They call this mutual combat. Breaking felony after felony after felony with illegal guns, felony. They got him on film. They know the guy.

There's his picture. He's on film. Nobody's prosecuted. Not only did they not prosecute, they dropped all the charges yes due to mutual combat which is supposed to be two guys having a fist fight that's what mutual combat supposed to be that's my point that is shootout that is engineered recidivism they know these are but here's the thing why are they doing that there's that why question again i don't give

a shit but i do i want to know what's the end goal there must be some end goal to destroy society but why would they want to i can't imagine i can't imagine either but if i look and you have a great imagination i have a great imagination i could probably come up with some well maybe it's well maybe it's maybe it's this don't give yourself a headache steps if you took all these steps step one defund the police. Step one, hire these insane progressive, air quotes, crime-loving prosecutors, DAs that are letting people off.

And like the guy in Wisconsin that ran over those 50 people. That guy, they had just, he had tried to run over his fucking girlfriend. He was out on only $1,000 bail. He tried to kill somebody with a car. He was out on $1,000 bail and then he runs over 50 people in a car. Engineered recidivism.

And then here's the fucked up part. The way they're covering that story in the news. It's all about the car. The man, it's not the man who killed those people. It's an accident that was caused by an SUV. A fucking SUV caused an accident? What are you saying? Did it go haywire?

Did the auto driving feature go nuts and it just plowed into the crowd? No, that this evil man with real problems, like a really psychologically fucked human being, drove into a crowd of strangers. Listen to the words out of the prosecutorial team at the Kyle Rittenhouse trial. Listen to the words out of their mouths and don't give yourself a headache. You'll get an aneurysm if you pursue the question, why would they say that? Why would that prosecuting team say

that when someone is attacking you with a gun and a skateboard that we all have to put up with a beating once in a while and there's no reason to- Is that really what they said? They said it that way? They said, we all have to put up with a beating once in a while and there's no reason really what they said they said it that way they said there's we all have to put up with a beating once in a while that was that actual words that they said we all have to put up with a beating listen to me closely really yes we

jim you'll find it there's first of all i've seen a video of a security guard that got hit in the head with a skateboard that caved his skull yes. Yes, that's my point. He has permanent brain damage. It's a horrible photo. Like, half of his head is, like, caved in. People in charge of justice are claiming that you must take a beating with a guy with an oak skateboard and a Glock pointed at your head, that you just need to bend over, spread your cheeks, and take it. That's what the prosecuting team said. That's what the Chicago prosecutor said. That's what the New York prosecutor said.

That's what the Portland prosecutor said. That's what the Seattle prosecutor said. That's what the Atlanta prosecutor said. One week before the cop shot the guy that was running, he was on parole already, stealing a Mercedes, and he turned the taser gun on the cop, the week before that event, stealing a Mercedes, and he turned the taser gun on the cop, the week before that event, the prosecutor said, yes, when faced with the deadly force of a taser

gun, deadly force is justified. Now, since the guy with the taser was black and the cop was white, now the same prosecutor said there's no reason to shoot a man with a taser gun because it can only cause temporary harm all right don't ask why don't ask why a guy would lie first of all that that's not logical here's here's why there is no logic if someone shoots you with a taser then they have your gun because if you're tased then they have your gun yes and if you're unarmed michael brown and you're attacking this cop you're unarmed until you get the cop's gun. And statistically, he will kill him with the cop's gun.

You must neutralize this person. I just don't understand. You will never understand. It's not to be understood because you're a good man. And you're good causes evil to be confusing. So just let it be confusing. There's so much going on that's so crazy that it makes your head hurt. There's so much going on that's so crazy that it makes your head hurt.

When you hear about them essentially allowing people to come across the border from Mexico, they're trying to stop it now. Apparently, Biden is going to reinstate Trump's stay in Mexico policy, which he criticized and called racist. A little too late. And now there's such an influx of people coming in from the Mexican border that they're trying to do something about it. But they're moving these people to all these different states. At the same time, they're trying to say that having an ID to vote is racist, which at the same time, they're saying you have to have an ID to show that you've been tested for COVID at the same time or that you've been vaccinated for COVID.

But at the same time, they're not vaccinating these people who they're letting into the country. It is wild. Which is why I never ask why. But I ask why. My brain tells me that it is so bizarre. It's so bizarre. It is so illogical. It is so wrong that you just—old yeller brings you the newspaper and your slippers. He saves you from the rattlesnake and the cougar.

Hug him, kiss him, give him a bone. You wake up one morning and Old Yeller's foaming at the mouth. It's going to hurt, but you're going to have to shoot the motherfucker. Because he's got rabies. Because logic should rule the day. And if you try to ask why anything from the left, you'll have an aneurysm because there is no answer. But don't you think that there's something to asking why? Because if you can at least show the path of corruption that led to these district attorneys that are willing to let out violent criminals that threaten everybody's health and safety and if you could show that to people that have been in

support of more lenient policies in terms of like prosecuting criminals and you could show them that this is what's going on and that this is somehow or another there's it's almost like it's engineered if and but that this will cause people to question things and maybe make people more aware of how fucked these people are that are making these laws are the people are that are enforcing these laws or not enforcing these laws i will give you the benefit of the doubt that the question why may facilitate an inquiry into the origins of this evil and corruption it's going to open people's eyes and what they call red pill them, right? I have found more effective just spotlighting the cockroaches, identifying their insanity. And let's just talk left versus right. My brother and I have this unbelievable friction right now because he hated Trump to such a degree that he called me the maniac. And I love you, Jeff. I truly love

my brother. He's a great man. So you hated Trump. So that means you're siding with this evil force that's taken over our government now. So someone explain to me and give me an example of where open borders brought quality of life you can't tell me where engineered recidivism and the unleashing of the most evil savages of in the human race onto our streets is benefiting quality of and my I could go right down the list. The left's agenda, I don't need to know why they're doing it. I just need to identify that they are doing it and how innocent lives are being lost. Look at the prosecutor in Waukesha who's on record that I know my diverting prosecution will cause the loss of innocent lives. That's quite a statement. He said, my choice.

This is the guy that let the guy out for $1,000 bail. My choice. Ran over 50 people. And Jamie will put it up on the screen. My choice, my decision, said the prosecutor in Waukesha. A great community. I love those people. I've been performing in Wisconsin for over 60 years.

So he said he knew that it would cause a loss of life. He said my diversionary prosecution, diverting prosecution, would cause the loss of innocent life. But here's the clincher, and don't ask why. But I stand by my decision. That is the same thing as saying, I want innocent lives lost. Don't ask why. That's just pure evil.

Don't you also think there's a political climate of police reform and of justice reform? And this is, you know, I'm all for letting innocent people get out of jail. You know, the Innocence Project's done amazing work exposing where corrupt cops have put all for i'm all for letting innocent people get out of jail that you know the innocence project's done amazing work exposing where corrupt cops hey god put people in jail corrupt systems yes in corrupt systems put people in jail for crimes they did not commit horror but when someone is like that guy who ran over those people that guy was a tortured soul he's a horrible human being like it's it's clear if you pay attention. Dangerous. Dangerous. They let him out and he committed

a horrendous evil. That is fucked. And I don't think it's a right or a left thing. Here's the thing about open borders. You know, you think about the left. Who's more left than Bernie Sanders? He's about as left as it gets, right? Yeah. Jamie, go to my Twitter. Go to my Twitter because

there's a conversation with Ezra Klein, who's also. Jamie, go to my Twitter. Go to my Twitter because there's a conversation with Ezra Klein, who's also super left, who's talking to Bernie Sanders. I believe it's from 2015. Well, I admit they have an account. But no, Bernie Sanders has a fascinating take on open borders. And I think a lot of people would be shocked

to hear this with the thoughts of today. Because today, in this climate, if you say anything against open borders, you're some kind of a racist and a monster, right? Listen to this because it's fascinating. Just press clear. Something that is in what you said about being a democratic socialist is a more international view.

I have seen this. But I think if you take global poverty that seriously, it leads you to conclusions that in the US are considered out of political bounds. Things like sharply raising the level of immigration we permit, even up to a level of open borders. About sharply increasing the amount of foreign aid. Open borders. That's a Koch brothers proposal. Really? Of course. I mean that's a right wing proposal which says essentially there is no United States.

But it would make a lot of the global poor richer, wouldn't it? And it would make everybody in America poor. Then you're doing away with the concept of a nation state. And I don't think there's any country in the world which believes in that. If you believe in a nation state or in a country called the United States or UK or Denmark or any other country, you have an obligation, in my my view to do everything we can to help poor people. What right wing people in this country would love is an open border policy, bringing all kinds of people who work for two or three dollars an hour. That would be great for them. I don't believe in that.

I think we have to raise wages in this country. I think we have to do everything that we can to create the millions of jobs. You know what youth unemployment in the United States of America today? If you're white, a white kid high school graduate, 33 percent. A Hispanic, 36 percent. African American, 51 percent. You think we should open the borders and bring in a lot of low wage workers? Or do you think maybe we should try to get jobs for those kids? So I think from a moral responsibility, we've got to work with the rest of the industrialized

world to address the problems of international poverty. But you don't do that by making people in this country even. How amazing is that? It's amazing, but I give him credit for a rare, maybe one-time hiccup of sense. But within that rare, one-time hiccup of sense about borders, he tried to convince somebody, not me, that it's a right-wing policy of open borders. Well, I think he just thought that because you could get a lot of cheap labor to come in and you could pay them as little as possible. Except that the evidence is irrefutable and inescapable that the open borders

is a direct result of Barack Obama and Joe Biden and the left. It's a left thing. It certainly is now. It certainly is now. I mean, what's happening now is certainly the way people are looking at it now is a direct result of this idea that to not have open borders is somehow racist, to want to stop people that are coming in here. And I want people to do better.

I want people that want to come into this country and work hard. I love immigration opportunity. I'm all for immigration. I'm all for banking. I'm not for bank robbing. Right. And I'm all right. But that's just fascinating that ideologically things have shifted so much that like what the parameters are of like what's what is acceptable points that you could talk about and the way you could say it if someone tried to talk like that on the left today they they would say this is a alt-right person how old how old is that 2015 is that amazing six years later the world's gone fucking wacky it's social media yeah social media and these echo chambers of these fucking kids that get right out of universities or in in universities right now and then get out,

and they're in these social justice warrior echo chambers, and they just spout out this shit. And they do it without any understanding of what the ramifications are of what they're doing. When he's saying that, that this is a Koch brothers idea, if you tried to say that today, people would laugh in your face. They'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Because it's laughable, yeah. But what he's saying, I understand his perspective. idea if you tried to say that today people would laugh in your face because what the fuck is laughable yeah but what he's saying i understand his perspective he's saying that and he's he's

looking at it from this cartoonish version of what a right-wing person is the cartoonish version meaning this heartless person who wants slaves you want people to work for pennies so wrong it's so false it's just false false false false false but they have to go to that outrageous dishonest misrepresentation to make their point because bernie is a communist and and i've never i don't care if he supported buying me ammo he'd still be a communist was probably just a tactic to try to make a to weasel his way into a believability factor because overall, all of these leftists, the media, academia, big tech, when they censor the recommendation

of how people can get healthy when it's been proven from a doctor, I don't need to ask why. It's bad. They're bad people. Yeah, well, the COVID narrative is the most insane. So, Joe, if I was in charge, and I am in charge of my life yes I'm in charge of my life I'm the authority nobody has authority over me now I obey the laws

but I'd like to think that the laws that I obey came from we the people for safe secure compassionate pleasurable quality of life perspectives. My son Rocco, all my kids, my grandkids, my brother and sister, my incredible wife, Shemaine. Shemaine, I love you so much. It's deep into the realm of stupid I love you so much. My band, my crew, my Linda, been my personal assistant for 33 years. Oh, Linda, I love you so much.

And Doug, my manager for 40-some years. You've given a lot of shout-outs. Yeah, I do, and I love these people. What you're experiencing, you invited me. I'm them. I'm the mouth and effervescence, dare I say, of the positive, quality, smart, cocky, hardworking, critical thinking, buoyant, energized people in my life. All the people in my life, all the people in my life, all my friends. I'm doing a Ted Nugent greasy speakeasy at Tucker Hall in Waco on Saturday, December 4th, with Johnny Kutz on drums and

Johnny Big on bass with Calvin Ross, Lone Star Music. Yeah, I'm getting a lot of shout-outs, because my life would be meaningless without the people I'm shouting out to. Right. We're getting somewhere, though. And yes, we're getting somewhere that my perspective and how I manage my life, you can't call it right wing. You call it sensible and thoughtful. That's the problem, isn't it?

That there is a right wing and a left wing? Because I think a lot of people are in the middle. A lot of people are centered. I think, believe me when I, and I would like your take on it i'm a middle guy got gay friends and black friends and trans friends and i can get friends how many trans friends i got at the last nra convention i had these trans guys coming up to me i guess they were guys i don't know but they love me they hug me and They love that I stand up for their freedom, self-defense, and First Amendment.

And people on the- I would love to see what this country would be like without any censorship on the internet. I really would. Zero. I would be fascinated to see- Be way better than this. If you could express yourself with no limitations on social media. I mean, I'm not out to mean like doxing people, giving people's addresses away.

You can't threaten. Right. But what I do mean is if you could argue your position freely without any worry of being pulled from the internet, because that has happened to so many people. There's so many people whose voices have been completely silenced. And there's people that are famous that have had their voices silenced. And there's people that you've never heard of that for whatever reason, they said something that someone didn't agree with.

So they just banned them. It's unbelievable. It's so wrong. It's fascinating because just like with Mike Hart, this thing with it's just vitamin D. Unbelievable. There's things like that. You know,

there was a thing called the unity 2020 project that Brett Weinstein tried to put together. And the idea was to bring people from the left and the right. There were sensible people. The idea was to bring someone like Dan Crenshaw and Tulsi Gabbard, bring them together and create this third party, a unity party. Right. They banned them from Twitter. I bet. They banned them from Twitter.

There was no threats. There was no violence. There was no spamming. There was nothing. It was just a position that they thought could endanger the chances of the democrats winning yes so they justified pulling them and censoring them from the internet what would it be like if people could have these free conversations just talk about things and i think you know we could find a lot of fucking common ground if we could do that you do that and we salute you for that.

But have you ever had a hardcore communist leftist Che Guevara fan on? I've had Bernie on. Yeah, but does he hold back? I love Bernie. Does he hold back? No, he didn't hold back at all. I think Bernie is a good person.

I think he has good values and good ideas. I just think he lives in a different world. But how can you find good in a communist agenda? I don't think it's a communist agenda. I think he calls himself a democratic socialist. And the idea is doing better for the people, the working people and the working families, and making sure that people can't take advantage of these people by not paying them a fair wage. This has always been his position. That's my position?

Yeah, but his position is to look at things like speculative trading and take a small percentage of that, less than a fraction of a penny, off of these crazy stock deals that they're doing where they're using algorithms. Take that and using it for infrastructure, using it for education, using it for health care. I mean, I don't know if it would work. Great concept. I'm not the guy.

Great concept. I'm not an economist. I'm not a politician. I'm a fucking moron. I'm a cage-fighting commentator who's also a stand-up comedian. You know, I'm not that guy. Those are quite the credentials, by the way. Strange.

Almost as good as a guitar player. Yeah, and I'm a bow-hunting fan. But let me comment on that. car player yeah and i'm a bow hunting fan all right but let me comment on that so so that's his perspective that helped a little guy to take a little tiny little piece uh some crumbs as i said in the godfather 2 um to wet my beak um who do we put in charge that would we put a bureaucracy that's in charge of alcohol tobacco and firearms no no you're right you're right you're right this is untrustworthy well the problem is anybody dumb enough to want to do that fucking job. The problem is anybody that wants to be in a position to control where the money goes.

These people are almost always in some way or another entangled. They'll steal it. Right. There's entanglements. Just like where I was saying my friend who was working for these pharmaceutical companies and he would get deep in with these doctors and deep in with the nurses and know their families it's like this weird sort of legal corruption this this way that they can infiltrate these people's lives to influence them and that's the problem the problem is the size of government it's just so

big and it has so much fucking power yeah it has way more power than it ever had in the past and they want more and during covid those powers have grown here's the pulse i get from my campfires and again people have to really think for a minute what this perspective is we're working hard playing hard americankickers, just people who bust their ass, the people in the arena of the swirling dust of battle, the ups and downs of life, and they stumble and they dust themselves off and get back up and try again. Maybe they wanted to be a musician, but they couldn't make it, so they became a plumber, but they're a great plumber. And so they didn't get their dream dream, but they still bust their ass to be in the asset column.

There's two columns. There's the liability column and the asset column. So my perspective is from, and again, not just this year's, but this year it was really quite voluminous, quite heated. Good American families don't trust any of the bureaucracies. We don't trust the CDC. We know that the WHO is an arm of the Communist Party. We don't trust the FDA.

We don't trust the USDA. And I could give you examples in every instance how they're not trustworthy. In Michigan, if you use a feeder, you'll cause the transmission of chronic wasting disease, so we must ban the use of feeders. But since the deer hunters didn't get enough deer because they weren't able to use attractants, the USDA comes in with big giant feeders that says USDA on it. Who could possibly trust that glaring dishonesty and hypocrisy?

You know what my favorite one is? The recent decision of the FDA where they tried to stop the Freedom of Information Act releasing information about COVID for 55 years about the vaccines. Yeah, that's a trustworthy maneuver. Pull that up because it's something to behold when you look at it. See, I don't read books, but

I read this stuff. This stuff is so wild. I've sent this to doctors and I literally sent it to a doctor friend of mine and she's pro-vaccine and her take was, what in the fuck is this? Yes, yes. That was her take and she hardly swears. I'm sharing

a take from hard-working Americans. This is Reuters by the way, folks. We don't trust any of them. This is Reuters and I believe that the head guy from Reuters is on the board of Pfizer which is, or excuse me. That's all you need to know. No, no, no, excuse me. On the board of the FDA, I believe, or Pfizer. But he was recently on the board of Pfizer, which is... That's all you need to know. No, no, no. Excuse me. On the board of the FDA, I believe, or Pfizer. But he was recently on the board of Pfizer.

No, no, no. I think I'm wrong. They go from Pfizer to the FDA. No, no, no. No, the guy from Reuters, I think, is on the board of Pfizer. Just check that, because I want to make sure I'm right here. I saw this. But my point is, it's so egregious that even Reuters, where the head guy is at the board of Pfizer, put this out.

And it says, wait, what? Question mark. FDA wants 55 years to process Freedom of Information Act request over vaccine data. That means they essentially want as much time as it takes where everyone who's involved is dead. So no one can be held accountable. Something like the Warren Report, maybe? Yes, very similar to the Warren Report, because they just recently, rather, very recently,

stopped releasing all the... Yeah, extended. Yeah, extended it even further. They would not release the transcripts or all the information. So I would like all my... Find out if that's the guy from Reuters, because I need to be clear on this because I don't I'm pretty sure. I'm right?

Say what it says. The CEO of Reuters is on the board for Pfizer. Thank you. On the screen. Meanwhile, they're still posting that. That's how egregious it is. It's so egregious that even Reuters is like, what the fuck are you doing? And their wait what is my

what the fuck. God damn it, their wait what is my what the fuck. God damn it, Ted. It's rampant. It's like the guy, not the Attorney Joy, I guess it is, the U.S. Attorney General, who's got his fingers in the books that goes to the education system. His son runs the books. His son-in-law runs the books that are being sold to the education systems across America, and he's banning alternative education material because his son-in-law

has a deal with the teachers' union. Well, how about this crazy one? How about the Hunter Biden laptop? Is that the most crazy thing ever? They literally banned the New York Post from, one of the oldest newspapers in the fucking country, they banned the New York Post from one of the oldest newspapers in the fucking country. They banned the New York Post articles from being shared on Twitter.

And I know you're inquisitive and you're suspicious, but don't ask why. There is no answer. They're just horrible. I'm not asking why anymore. Horrible people. I'm going to take off a whole day for the rest of the day. I'm not asking why. Go, go. Ted Nugent,

we've been talking for more than three hours. Have we really? Yes. Will you play us out with a riff? Will you give us a riff and wrap this bad boy up? I love riffs. Listen, man, I'm glad we did this again. I appreciate you very much. You're always a lot of fun to be around, man. Well, again, I love life.

I thank God every day. I know you do. You're a super positive person you really are and I like to I like to maximize the good and fight against the evil and I do really appreciate the fact

that you've been a musician for all these decades and you so obviously fucking love it and you've been a bow hunter for all these years and you so

obviously love it I probably picked up the guitar and the bow at the age of three or four maybe. And I am a fan of enthusiasm. I love enthusiasm. I love people who love what they

do. So please, Ted Nugent, play us out. I'm a fan of enthusiasm. See, I don't know what that is. I've never played that before. Beautiful. Beautiful. Thank you. so guitar solo ¶¶ There was a time when I didn't care Nothing mattered to me, I swear

Then something happened and I came alive And I found you and I found fire And I never stopped believing And I can't stop dreaming And I gotta dream like Martin Luther King In my heart I hear that man sing So I climb up his mountain and I shout it out loud Cause I got a dream, I swear to God, and I never stop believing.

And I can many gave all On my knees I humbly fall I see the crosses and old glory And that's why nothing will ever stop me. And I never stop believing. And I can't stop dreaming. Yeah Ted Nugent, ladies and gentlemen. Goodbye, America and the rest of the world. We love you.

Live it up, motherfuckers. Be nice to each other. Bye. Kisses and hugs. Thank you.