The Joe Rogan Experience - #1742 - Jimmy Corsetti

Episode Date: December 1, 2021

Jimmy Corsetti is the independent researcher behind "Bright Insight": a YouTube channel exploring ancient mysteries and lost civilizations.

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Hello, Joe. Hello, Joe Rogan. Nice to meet you in person. I've watched many, many of your videos on YouTube, and I really, really enjoy them. That's quite flattering. Well, we share a common interest, this fascination with ancient civilizations and the mysteries.

The first video I think I saw of you was this video of these concentric circles in Africa that are remarkably similar to the descriptions of Atlantis. The Rishat structure. Yeah. And then I started reading up on it, and I'm like, this is pretty wild. And then I got into your whole YouTube page, which is called Bright Insight. And it's really excellent. So first, before we even get started, how did you get interested in this subject? Well, going back to the sixth grade, that was when I fell in love with the Egyptians. Oh yeah. Bring that sucker up to you. How's that sound?

Perfect. I've always had a fascination for the ancients. Growing up in school, most topics bored the hell out of me. In math, I'd be like counting the ceiling tiles more than I'd be counting numbers. But something like that, you know, the ancients, science, history, I always thought was fun. But I never would have thought that I would grow up to find, make a career out of it. Like my story is pretty unique in that I made a lot of life changes about five years ago. I was heading down a path.

I was really unhappy. I was doing a corporate life and I was more depressed than I had ever been. And yet I had everything in my life. I had a good paycheck, beautiful wife, house, everything, except for a soul-sucking path of a career that was going to bring me nothing but misery. What were you doing? Well, I was a fraud investigator for a large retailer, one of the largest. I'll say it's not Walmart. Actually, I'll say it's Target. Who cares? Oh, Jesus, you're crazy. Can't believe you're saying it. It was a sweet gig for a while. I was doing... So I had a it's Target. Who cares? Oh, Jesus, you're crazy. Can't believe you're saying it. It was a sweet gig for a while.

I was doing, so I had a couple of responsibilities, internal theft and fraud. So I was investigating employees that steal from the company. And I also managed the team that would bust the shoplifters, external theft and fraud. And that gig was awesome for a few years until, and I'm not talking crap about Target because it's a corporate thing. until, and I'm not talking crap about Target because it's a corporate thing. They're all doing the do more with less philosophy through attrition, they get rid of other positions, and then they pass on those responsibilities to you.

And then you end up doing less of what you really want to do. For example, what I was good at was busting people that were stealing from the company. Salaried managers. How do they steal? Like what's the most clever way? Well, so it could be something as simple as stealing cash, but that's like the easiest thing to catch. So that's more rare. Some people steal merchandise. So you got to think about it. Like if you were to take, because we were joking about DVDs earlier, no one's doing them anymore.

But when I was last here in 2014, DVD box sets for television series, those things would go 50, 60 bucks. But if you steal a whole box of them and you sell them on the black market, there's no overhead. And other things that people do is mark things down. You'll have a TV or patio furniture or something, whatever you think about. And you just mark that stuff down. But yeah, but it could be something simple stuff. It could be people that are just trying to, I don't know. I mean, you think about it like it's, actually, let me put it like this.

And this is for the external, this is the shoplifters. You want to guess what the number one most stolen thing out of Target is? Out of anything else? Gum? No. I'll give you a hint.

I would think something you could slip into your pocket. I'll give you a hint. Oh, yes. It's women and something that's just dropped in their purse. It's nail polish. Nail polish? More than anything. Really?

Yeah. So they just walk by and they just go, I can get away with this? Yeah, just grab it. And you catch them on cameras? Is that how you bust them? Yeah. And so that's the thing a lot of people don't realize. I tell anyone, don't steal from Target, man.

Like, you will send your picture to all the other stores and they will memorize your face. How about just don't steal? Yeah, don't steal. Do the right thing. Don't be a fucking piece of shit. Yeah, it's like some people think, well, it's a big company and it's harmless. But I'm like, no, like payroll matters and everything comes down to these fractions of percentages. And this can hurt employees from having hours. Well, it's just gross.

Yeah. So you did that and then you didn't like it. So how did you get into this YouTube world of these awesome videos? All right. So I was at Target. I was unhappy. I tried to find another gig. Nothing was panning out.

So I'm like, all right, I'm going to go back to school and get an MBA, Master's of Business Administration. Even though I wasn't a fan of school, like this will get me that six-figure another gig. Nothing was panning out. So I'm like, all right, I'm going to go back to school and get an MBA, master's of business administration. Even though I wasn't a fan of school, like this will get me that six figure corporate gig. I'll be manager. And I was sick and tired of all this bureaucratic, bureaucratic red tape shit of knowing that there's something a company could do better and has to go through so many people and no one listens. I'm like, Christ. So I'm like, well, let me become the decision maker. Then we will get a high power job and, and that will satisfy me. But midway through the program, I got real depressed.

I was married and I was like, once I graduated, I was doing some soul searching. We moved to Boise, Idaho for a change and nothing was panning out for finding a job. And so I was, like I said, depressed and I was like, fuck this. I'm just going to go become a school teacher. I'll bite the bullet. I don't care about the money anymore. I just want to be happy. And I always thought being a teacher would be fun.

But truth be told, I'm like, I'm not doing that for $35,000 a year. Like, that's, you're poor. Teachers, school teachers are practically at the poverty level. But anyway, so I was like, I'll do that. And then they're like, well, you got to go back to school and get some certs. And it's gonna be like another year and a half. I'm like, I'm not going back to school. I just got a master's.

And so I was like, well, I had heard people were on YouTube and making money. And I'm like, I could teach anything on there. And so I started shotgunning it. I started making videos on all kinds of different topics, all kinds of crazy stuff. Joe, if you saw my earliest stuff, I mean, I've deleted more than half my videos. I was doing all kinds of woo-woo. Well, you had to learn, right? You have to learn how to do it right.

Yeah. But YouTube has a lot of dumb shit on it, like undeniably. But you can learn a lot of things on YouTube. There's a lot of, like, legitimately fascinating information on YouTube and legitimately informative videos. Yeah. So that comes to you. So you start making these videos on ancient civilizations. Those were the ones that got the most views,

and it all made sense because it was the most fun topic to make videos on. So you were the most enthusiastic about it. Yeah, and it ended up making sense it worked out that way because even just doing the research wasn't hard because if I'm reading something I'm not interested in, like my brain just goes. Of course, me too. Same thing. But I'm very, I'm not interested in, like my brain just goes. Of course. Yeah.

Same thing. But I'm very, very interested in ancient civilizations, which is why I got into your videos. That's very flattering, Joe. And I guess I just want to say it's interesting because, you know, before we hadn't chatted, I was like, which videos had he seen and what stuck out? I see quite a few. I've seen most of your videos on construction methods of Egypt, of the pyramids, and some of the videos on other structures that are there. You've got to stop messing with that. It's going to fuck with your head.

Is it? You're going to keep going up and down and up and down. I know. I've been constantly turning it down. You're fidgeting. Just relax. Okay. Well, I'm not used to hearing myself like this.

Right. Yeah, you get used to it. But it's the best way because it stops us from talking over each other. People normally, in normal conversation, they talk over each other all the time. But when you hear both voices at the same time in your ear, you realize how annoying that sounds to people listening. I got you. Like if you do a podcast with four people, and I've done a bunch of them with four people, it's a fucking nightmare. If you don't have headphones on, it's a disaster to listen to.

Yeah. I heard your one two weeks ago on Tim Pool with everyone else, Alex Jones and everyone. It was disastrous. It was only eight of you. It was a disaster. So what was your first one that you realized actually caught on? What was the first subject? It was on Nikola Tesla. And I was talking about his thoughts on intuition and where his inventions came from and how he would just sit around thinking up all of his inventions. It wasn't through tinkering around. He was convinced that there was ideas coming to him from the universe. Yeah. Yeah, he was convinced that he was some sort of like a radio for signals.

Yep. Which I think a lot of people who are very creative, they think that way. A lot of singers will tell you that their songs come from just like they come from the air. You know, some of the best jokes that I've ever written just seems like they've come out of nowhere, which is really confusing because it's like, you know, that's what the concept of the muse is, right? The concept of the muse is you sit like, have you ever read Steven Pressfield? Yes. Is that with the- The War of Art? Yes. Yeah. I thought it was The Resistance, actually. Am I thinking of Pressfield? Yes. Is that with the- The War of Art?

Yes. Yeah. I thought it was The Resistance, actually. Am I thinking of something else? Yeah, no. Steven Pressfield. Same guy. Resistance is the thing that he talks about that everybody struggles against.

This is like the procrastination and that the muse, he treats it as if it's a real thing and that you just need to sit down and then be a professional and give yourself this amount of time. This is when I show up every day and then the muse will meet me there. But if you don't treat it like you're a professional, you don't respect the muse, it won't show up. Right. And his idea is that this is like a real thing that's giving you this data, which is very

similar to the way Tesla thought about things. Do you believe that? I don't know. But if you treat it that way, it's real. It's like the same feeling I have about God. Like if you live life like there's a God, if you live life like there's real morals and ethics to the universe, I feel like you can get a better result.

And it's not like that you should only be ethical and kind because you feel like there's like a big guy in the sky watching you. But if you do uphold the principles, like the primary principles of Christianity, right? Do unto others as you would have do unto you. You know, treat everyone as if they are your brother or your sister and, you know, love and kindness and all these different, very easy to understand principles of love and happiness and camaraderie. If you

just follow those, they're really beneficial. They really work. Now, does that mean that a guy came back from the dead and walked on water? and that seems a little fishy. But if you just follow those principles as if there really is a God, I believe that it's a great framework for life. And then I think that you could live a better, more fulfilled life if you live like that. I totally agree. And, you know, it makes you wonder, Joe, like, do you ever wonder, like, what is all this about? Life, the universe, like, where did this all come from? Yeah. And the very fact that we're sitting here talking about it. So I was thinking not long ago, that's like, okay, let's say Big Bang, like the creation.

And I can wrap my head around an expansion of energy. What I can't wrap my head around is how there was ever nothing and then something. And then, so essentially, if the Big Bang happened, as they say, that's essentially an explosion. So like aren't explosions essentially that's death. But yet here we are. We're made out of stardust. Right. meaning. So I look at like love, humor, desire for the pleasure of arts of all things, you know, whether it includes comedy or the way we feel when we see nature or a painting or anything else. And yet, I think that the meaning is the evidence of the divine. And I wouldn't say it as like, you're talking about like God, it's like someone in the clouds or whatever, like, you know, going to judge us or something like that. But doesn't that mean that we're the universe experiencing ourselves or itself in some way that the fact that we're that's many people

describe it that way yeah that we're the universe experiencing ourselves um if you wanted to be really pragmatic you would say that all these things whether it's love or creativity or the desire for success and to have your work appreciated. What all those things really do is they encourage camaraderie, which encourages cooperation, which gets more work done. Creativity encourages innovation, which creates better and newer things. And the desire to be appreciated for one's work makes one work extra hard to achieve these goals. But ultimately, what are all these goals? Like, what's the end result? The end result is better things.

Constant innovation. Better thing. I mean, I've talked about this many times before because I'm obsessed with it, but for the people that have heard this, please forgive me. I am obsessed with it, but for the people that have heard this, please forgive me. I am obsessed with the concept that human beings are essentially like a caterpillar that's creating a cocoon and that out of this, this technological butterfly will emerge. And we don't

even realize why we're doing it. The caterpillar is not consciously aware, hey, it's time to make the cocoon. The human being stuck in traffic, working a nine to five, working for Apple every day is not really thinking, hey, I am a part of this thing that will one day give birth to artificial intelligence and to sentient beings that are made out of carbon and silicon. And, you know, they're created in the laboratory rather than in a womb. But I think that's what we're doing. Yeah. And so it gets me back when we're talking about like where these ideas come from and the idea of amused. Cause like Joe, the, cause you said you've got these ideas for jokes that have panned out quite well. Right. And it's like, so I look at my videos and sometimes I'm really struggling with a title and a thumbnail, which is,

I would say the most important thing is you got to get people to click. Right. And then after that, you need good content or they'll just click off and they'll never come back. But it's interesting. It's that sometimes it's when I put the intention out into the universe, I'll give myself this feeling of self-belief that I am getting just the right title and just the right thumbnail to get me views. Because that was my original goal was like, I'm like, all right, I'm going to go down this YouTube path that I might as well do it, I'm going to go down this YouTube path that I might as well do it. I'm going to go big.

I want 1 million subscribers and I want to get videos to get millions of views and I want to teach something to somebody in the process and have fun doing it and encourage other people to look into things. And the thing is, is that sometimes with some of these ideas, I'm like, from one second to the next,

all of a sudden the idea comes and it worked out quite well in many, in so many times over and over again. But you're focusing. I mean, you think about what you're doing. You're sitting down there and you're thinking about it and you're focusing. I will. And you're using your creativity and your concentration. It's not, it doesn't necessarily have to be mystical. Well, true. Except for that sometimes I'll be tossing in over these ideas for weeks of focusing on it. And sometimes that's what delays me so long because if I have a good content,

like I need to know how to share this, but if you can't market, especially with YouTube and how big it is now, and if you gotta show somebody why they should click on your video and just focusing on it enough isn't necessarily what's brought me my ideas. I've struggled tremendously by focusing

too hard. And then all of a sudden when I maybe let go a little bit, I'll get this flash. I'm like, ah, that's how it should look. Because especially when these topics I'm talking about, like let's say Atlantis, which we're going to have to talk about that. How do you make a video when there's like 10,000 other Atlantis videos out there? What's going to make someone want to click on this one more than the others? So it's got to be a title. It's maybe perhaps a little provocative or have certain keywords for the algorithm. And I've learned like with thumbnails, you got to, because if people are literally- So you think about this shit a lot.

Yeah. About how to get people to watch a lot. Yes. How long have you been doing this now? I created, all right, so August of 2016 was when my first videos started coming out. Or actually, that's not true. June, July, but those videos don't exist anymore. The earliest one you'll find on my channel will be, I believe, August of 2016. So it's been a process of trying to. The first four months.

I didn't have 100 subscribers for the first four months. You're obsessed with the subscriber number and the views and all that shit. It was a goal because I'm like, all right, so I did a complete 180 80 in my life. And I went from like this, this path that was more, let's say normal and all the check boxes. And I'm like, well, how the, if I'm going to do this, I want to be successful at it, but I want to give back in the process. And by give back, I mean like teach someone something like I don't want to go do silly dumb ass videos, even if it would make me more money. I rather be proud of something I'm doing. If that makes sense. Right. Yeah. So the Atlantis one.

Yeah. The Rishat structure. I was wondering if you saw those videos, Joe. Yeah. No, that was a big one that I saw because I've been fascinated by the concept of Atlantis. Ever since I had these conversations with Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock about the Younger Dryas Impact Theory and this concept that somewhere in the roughly around 11 000 12 000 years ago we were hit by a series of comets and it's pretty evident that that's a fact if you do the core samples of the earth they find this nuclear glass all over the earth that exists in that time period and it seems like something happened that reset civilization. And there's very little evidence of advanced civilizations before that up until recently, up until the last couple of

decades. They started uncovering things like Gobekli Tepe and all these other structures that are clearly from more than 12,000 years ago. And they're really complex and really large with enormous stones. And it sort of caused people to rethink the history of the earth and the history of human civilizations. And Atlantis has always been the big one. That has been the one that everybody talked about was this incredibly advanced civilization. And no one can figure out where it is. Right.

Or if it was real. I think that Atlantis, because surely that wouldn't have been necessarily the name just through like the change of language, you know, over, let's say, 12, 13,000 years ago, which would be the time frame. So like surely there would be several different changes of language. But I think it represented a civilization that was doing great things. They were more global than what many people think would be possible. It was doing great things. They were more global than what many people think would be possible. Atlantis was said to be a kingdom made up of – or an empire, excuse me, made up of ten kingdoms.

And then there was the lost city of Atlantis, which was the capital, which was said to be made up of concentric circles, two of water, three of land, and essentially that they were obliterated by a cataclysm as passed down by Plato, although it's worth mentioning that Plato got the story of Atlantis from Solon, who was his uncle separated by six generations. But what most people don't realize is that Solon had traveled to Egypt, and so it's the ancient Egyptians is where that tale comes from, which makes it even more bizarre because I would argue that the most spectacular ancient civilization is the Egyptians. I mean, no disrespect to the Romans. It's hard to deny. Right? I mean, let me just say, because I want to, on this podcast, encourage people to travel

to Egypt. Joe, you got to go. I really want to. A friend of mine just went and she got back and she was telling me incredible things about it. Jamie, will you pull up the photos of these concentric circles? Tell him. Yeah, the wrist shot. R-I-C-H-A-T. It's worth mentioning that in the first couple, I just want to say it's wrist shot. I used to call it rick hot. I was mispronouncing it. But let me ask you this, Joe, real quick. When you saw my video, was that the very first time you had ever seen this thing before? That's the thing. When I first saw this, I was like, what the fuck is that? By the way, you see that white, all those white blemishes? That's salt. This was under the ocean. And people, let me just say, you mentioned Randall

Carlson and Graham Hancock. I love them. And I know for sure that they don't particularly think this is the site for a few different reasons. So let me say there's absolute doubt. Even I am not 100% certain. I'm not even 100% certain that lenses existed. What I am certain is that humans were doing spectacular things in a civil, you know, a cataclysmic event happened called the Younger Dryas and reset something for somebody. Is there a natural explanation for this formation? Yes. So what, so let me say that it is considered to be a mysterious, they don't, they're not 100% certain of it. However, the consensus is that it was a volcanic dome that had risen and collapsed multiple times, like 100 million years ago, allegedly. I don't, I say allegedly, I'm not

necessarily disagreeing with that. I'm just saying I would like to know where sometimes they get these figures from. Like explain to me why it was 100 million years ago and not 99 or 98 because here we are talking about how crazy things changed in just the last 12, 13,000 years. So when they throw around these numbers, you know, 1 million years in itself is an incredibly long period of time. But getting back to your question some had originally thought that maybe it was an impact site from a crit from a you know an asteroid or perhaps but there's no evidence for it like there's none of the problem is is there's these concentric circles the way i like i've never seen anything i mean obviously i'm not an archaeologist but i've never seen anything like this in i mean if you study structures that are like man-made

structures I've never seen anything like this that humans have made but I've definitely never seen like go to that one way the curses yeah Jamie please so is this you want to see so all right okay okay one step at a time because we also have to take into consideration that people are just listening so it can't describe what we're looking at here. Okay. So what you're looking at is approximately 250 miles inland in the total barren desert of Mauritania, Africa. So the Western Sahara. But this image looks like, why is it blue? That's just showing you the- What it used to look like? No, this is what it looks like right now through, I forgot what you call this type of animation,

but it's essentially, it's a satellite imagery that they enhanced in order for you to see the difference in elevation and the actual structure to itself. Okay. So like if there was water in this area, you would see it this way, that it would be these concentric circles that are raised above the water, and then the water would be inside of it like that. Well, just to clarify, this particular image, no, this is not trying to represent water. So that blue is actually picking up on salt. So salt, all that was salt, but I mean, it used to be underwater, right? It's salt because it was underwater. That's what I believe. And that's what makes the most sense to me. Others will disagree. And let me tell you why it is currently 12, 1300 feet above sea level. It's 250 miles inland. And so some people say this was never under the

ocean, at least not for the last tens of millions of years is what the scientists claim. I argue that since the salt is still there, and not only that, Jamie, if you go to the other images that show you more of the white, the one that you were previously on, the one to the middle to the left, right there. So those areas with the most white blemishes happen to be the areas that are the lowest in elevation, which to me tells me that saltwater had settled there. But not only that, Joe, Atlantis was said to be, like we said,

multiple rings of water and land. However, it was said to open to the sea to the south. And what you're looking at here, the south, so this is oriented north, south, east, and west. What do you see to the south? And especially if we could get another. This is a very flat area that looks like it's the lowest elevation. Like around it looks like it's higher.

I mean, it's hard to tell from this image. Jamie, will you Google map it? Just type in, even if you went to Mortania. So you could see this from space. Astronauts use it as a locator and they weren't really familiar or aware of it until the Gemini missions in the early 1960s. So if you go to, like, if you just go to Google Earth, you could, you'll be able to find this quite quickly. It stands out and it's why they call it the eye of Africa or the eye of

the Sahara. All right. So just pan out a little bit and it'll provide us with a much, keep going. All that white is salt. In fact, I had a friend, Josh Sigurdsson, that went out there and tasted that shit off the fucking ground. That's salt. Because a lot of people say,

this was never under the ocean. And I'm like, all right, you see all that? Even Randall Carlson himself, which let me just say, he, for a few reasons, doesn't, he favors the Azores.

He doesn't think this is likely to be location for a few reasons. He favors the Azores. He doesn't think this is likely to be the location. For a few reasons. He favors what? The Azores, the island chain, which would be – And he thinks that that was Atlantis? To him, he's partial towards that. So he analyzed this site, and you see all the striations, how it looks like the ocean. So that's all water erosion, Joe.

how it looks like the ocean. So that's all water erosion, Joe. And if you scroll in, so remember when Randall was on your show and he showed you the Missoula floodplains and all those giant ripples from the huge current that it went through? This is here. So scroll in right there where your cursor is, Jamie.

Yeah, scroll right in. You're going to see those same water ripples. Keep going. Because what you're looking at here is Pando. This is many miles. Keep in mind, this structure is 30 miles across. That's crazy. That looks like the bottom of the ocean, like if you see where the water breaks on the sand.

Yep. Wow, that's crazy. Just to clarify, that white is salt. Because a lot of people don't know, Joe, that the Sahara Desert wasn't a thing until approximately 5,000 years ago. It's only in the last several years – and by the way, I'm quoting MIT research here – that the Sahara goes back and forth from green to desert approximately every 20,000 years. They believe it has something to do with the Earth's tilt, and that's worth discussing. But so this whole area – because people are like, well, that's not Atlantis. I'm like, well, first of all, if this whole, if the Western, or excuse me,

the Sahara Desert was a lush, green, tropical paradise, which had the largest known freshwater lakes ever known to have existed, for example, Mega Lake Chad, which is, it's like three times more water surface than all of the um north american great lakes combined it's a big sucker holy shit how's it not an ocean i know well fresh water it was when it existed and that was at the time when the sahara was green and it also had some of the largest known rivers exist that were known to have existed throughout the world i think they'd still be ranked 10th today or something like that but um so you have to, when you see this, people have to imagine that this area was once green

and that if that, because one of the arguments I make is that the fact that that salt is on top of that dirt to me is indicative that the ocean flowed over here far more recently than what people think. How wide is this structure? Okay. So concentric circles. I meant to bring, I brought a laser. Do you have a laser? Okay, so- These concentric circles. I meant to bring, I brought a laser. Do you have a laser pointer in here?

No. That's okay. So the circles themselves is about 14 and a half miles across. However, if you go the complete shebang, the whole circle itself is just shy of 30 miles. So the whole thing is 30 miles, which would be like the size of a city. Right. Well, well, keep in mind the outer ring would have been water. So the, so that wouldn't have necessarily

counted, but some people will say that this is too big according to Plato's description. And let me just say that I'm like, well, hold on a second. I don't think that we should consider that because of loss of translation, that we should consider the measurements a key detail. The question becomes, is it big enough to be a city with possibly millions of people? Because the way it was described is that it was a city that was said to be busy all day, all night, rich in trade with languages spoken from all over. So I'm like, okay, that would imply millions of people. I mean, if a city is busy all day and all night, I think of large metropolitan areas like New York, Chicago, London, whatever. And so if this was indeed an ancient or a site of an ancient civilization, well, then it would have – I mean, they're obviously not going to have skyscrapers.

So it would have to be an area big enough to sustain that many people, and the Rishat structure certainly does. And so the idea would be that this would lead out to the ocean, and that these circles would be where the water is, and the ridges would be where the structures are, where the houses and the buildings are. And people will say, well, where is that stuff now? I'm like, well, look at it. It got obliterated. Yeah, those people should shut the fuck up. Well, that's to say-

But if you just look at what's going on with the sand and those clear water erosion marks on the sand, but that also could be wind, right? Couldn't the way that the ripples in that sand, couldn't that be wind? Both. However, just to clarify. Is that sand where the cursor's at right there? Yes, that's all sand. However, it's also – actually, go to the right where it says layers, Jamie, can you scroll in right there? Because that will show you the ripples more. So it's

a combination of sand and rock. You mean to the left? Right there. That's what I'm talking about. Those are giant ripples. And I'm quoting, let me just say, I'm quoting Randall Carlson, who I consider to be an expert on geological formations. And so, yeah. on geological formations. And so, yeah. Right, but isn't that what wind-driven sand looks like? If you go to dunes, dunes look like that. Yeah, and undoubtedly- But hold on, this is sand, right?

Yes, well, it's a combination, rock and sand in between. Right, but this is like what it would look like if wind-driven sand and rock underneath it. Right, so the implication is that it was blasted by water and then after that, the wind has done its thing and moved the implication is that it was blasted by water. And then after that, the wind has done its thing and moved the sand all over it and in between. So 20,000 years ago, this was all green, lush forest? No, Joe. 5,000.

5,000? Really? Yes. So I could show you. When do they think Atlantis was? 11,600 is allegedly when it was destroyed, which mirrors the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe. 11,600 is allegedly when it was destroyed, which mirrors the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe. So this is 600 BC, and Plato said that it happened 9,000 years earlier. So that would be 11,600 years ago, which coincides with the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe, which makes it so compelling. To me, that is actual scientific evidence that indicates that Atlantis actually existed. Because it's very specific.

It is very specific, but it's not scientific, right? It's like there's no real evidence. Okay, let me rephrase. That a civilization, yes, let me rephrase. A civilization got fucked. Yeah. 11,600. So never mind Atlantis.

Let me rephrase. A civilization was around. The stories of it were passed down down and they got obliterated. So that's what I'm implying. Well, we all we definitely know that the Younger Dryas impact theory is extremely plausible. There are, without a doubt, like many, many impact parts points on Earth where they find this tritonite, this nuclear glass, which you can get either from a nuclear explosion or you get it from some sort of a meteor impact, large scale, all over the continent. And we know that all over the planet, I should say. We know that that happened.

This is real hardcore geological evidence. So if we know that there were structures before that, which we do now because of Gobekli Tepe and a few other places that they're reasonably sure were pre-11,000 years ago, 12,000 years ago, then we know that something was around back then that was very sophisticated. How sophisticated, we don't know. But then the other thing is, like, how much would be left? You know, if you've ever seen those photographs of Detroit where you see houses that are being consumed by trees? And there's some great ones in Russia as well where they have these photographers have taken to going into these abandoned cities and watching the nature, like watching trees and the greenery consume these houses. But in Detroit, we're only talking about a couple decades.

You've got trees growing through the center of houses. So the houses had holes in them. Rain came in through the holes. There's holes in the floor. Something, whether it's a tree or something, grew up through the floorboards, burst through the floorboards. See if you can find some of those images, Jamie, because they're really fascinating. And so for people to just get an understanding of timescale,

what we're looking at in these images. Quick one I found real fast. Yeah, so that was one from 2009, and then you see it from 2013. It's basically consuming that house. So in 2009, you just have a house in between two houses. In 2013, the house is abandoned and it's being consumed by trees. It looks like it's been condemned. It looks like it's going to fall in on itself pretty soon. Yeah, but it's four years. It's wild. And so- That's what's crazy. In four years, I mean, if you came back four years later and you saw that the house was abandoned, like right now, in 2009, it looks like a normal house.

Like you drive by, oh, there's a house. In 2013, you go, oh, the house is getting eaten by trees. But there's some other ones from Detroit, Jamie, where you can see houses where the trees are actually growing up through the center of the house. I'll find one. Okay, no worries. No worries. But my point is, this is just a few years. Right.

If you go a few hundred years, everything's gone. Look at the Titanic. Granted, it's under the ocean, but in just over a little more than 100 years, Look at that one. it's more than 50% gone already. Look at that one right there. Oh, that's good. That's crazy.

I like that. Yeah, that one right there. Oh, that's good. That's crazy. I like that. Yeah, that's 60 years. Like this house has been absolutely consumed by trees. You know, Joe, people ask, they'll say, well, where's the rest of the evidence? I'm like, all right, so first of all, metal rusts away. Some people say, well, what about the plastic? I'm like, who said they did plastic? And by the way, if they were to, what makes you think that they would choose petroleum for it?

Because the hemp plant used to grow naturally throughout the world before it was eradicated. And you can make completely biodegradable hard plastic out of hemp plant. Yeah, you can. And this is something we absolutely should be doing right now. How dare you, Joe? How dare you? That big oil, come on now. Isn't it fascinating, though, when you think about the idea that these civilizations were super advanced but did it in an incredibly different way than the way we're doing it? We think that the only way to be super advanced is to have heavy machinery, to have electronics, to have 5G, wireless internet access, and all these different things.

you know, 5G, wireless internet access and all these different things. But what they did somehow was figure out a way how to cut these immense stones and move them from hundreds of miles away. And they figured out how to do this where they left behind no evidence of the construction. It's wild. And this is one reason, Joe, I want you to get to Egypt so bad, because when you see these stones, so I had a really, in my own mind, I remember thinking what it would, picturing what it would look like before I went to Egypt, what it would look like in person. Joe, it's bigger and far more, everything's bigger and far more impressive in person, and the pictures never do

it justice. I went over there with an ultra wide camera lens lens, and that's the only way to get the full capture of many of these stones, but yet it distorts. It doesn't show you just how big they are. So one of the things I like to do is have somebody stand next to it and then take the photo because then you can actually appreciate. Yeah, I saw pictures of you next to it, and you're about 5'10". Yeah, I try to say it all the time. 5'10", so people can just, you know, an average-sized guy just look at that. Yeah, there you go. Okay, yeah I try to say it all the time. 5'10", so people can be like, just, you know, an average-sized guy, just... Yeah, there you go. Okay, yeah, look at this.

You see that. That is a 125-ton stone. That is... Oh, shout-out to my Instagram, Bright Insight. Let me just say real quick. Bright underscore Insight on Instagram. Yeah, but just to clarify, there's another channel called Bright Inside. Oh.

I think they're ripping me off, to be honest, but that's another story. But I just want to clarify that. And, Joe, it's actually kind of hilarious being on here right now because I never even shared my last name. The internet didn't know. Like if you type Bright Insight Corsetti. So I'm Jimmy Corsetti to anyone listening. And I decided to keep my last name off the internet because when I first started this, I'm like, all right, I'm talking all kinds of crazy topics. I don't want the attention. Leave me alone um but coming on here it's like why hold it back any any more um and so anyways it's funny who gives a shit yeah no who gives a shit yeah exactly and in in the funny thing is joe it's like well yeah whatever well look at these images man this these stones what's

fascinating to me is how they're uneven but but yet they're perfectly fit into place. I mean, but what I mean by uneven is there are a bunch of different shapes. For the people that are just listening, and if you go to the bright underscore insight Instagram page, there's plenty of images that Jimmy has up here. But these stones are much, much taller than him. They're immense. And they're these weird shapes, but yet they fit into each other perfectly. But what's crazy also is they're smooth in some places where they're like, it's almost like artistic, right? Like the way they jumbled them all together, but like perfectly fit them.

Look at that. God, that's amazing. Scroll over again, Jamie, because I'm going to wow you go one more time, I think. All right. So that stone right there is 17 feet tall above ground and another 12 below. Or maybe it's the other way around. Maybe it's 12 and then 17. I can't remember.

But it's a 29 foot long stone, at least 100 tons. So they dug under the ground or did the ground consume it uh dug well i believe that's what i was told um right it's hard to say because like a lot of the structures in ancient egypt especially like the old kingdom they found them underneath where they were buried by sand yeah which is obviously very different than what this is just hard dirt yeah and where in egypt was this oh i'm sorry this is peru so this is machu picchu than, this is just hard dirt. Yeah. And where in Egypt was this? Oh, I'm sorry. This is Peru. Oh, this is Machu Picchu?

No, so this is Sacsayhuaman is what it's called. And it's these huge polygonal walls, these terraces. And, all right, because I could see it on there. I'm such a nerd, Joe. Look at that doorway. It's huge. And that first picture we were showing you that says 125 tons just to put it into perspective for people that's more than three 737 800 which is like a common say Southwest jet heavier than three of those suckers one that one

stone and say how they're not even entirely sure where it came from it's like how did they how did they move it yeah see I put this in there I'm into planes Joe so for comparison because I also made the comparison that it's 20,000 pounds heavier than a 767-400, which is a wide body jetliner. Can you go back, Jamie? Go back one? It doesn't matter. That's fine. These stones, do they have an idea of where the quarry was? Not exactly. It's at least 20 miles here. But like, there's other places, say Egypt, where you have like the 70 ton stone blocks that remove more than 500 miles. Yeah. And they the only boats that they had that we know of were completely incapable of carrying something like that.

That's correct. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't have something that's since gone away. But I want to, I have to say something because I know exactly, because there's so many people out there that will cite, there was a discovery a handful of years ago of this papyrus that had, it was essentially a receipt for limestone blocks that were brought up the Nile and delivered to Giza. And many people have said, oh, see, this is, there was such clickbait fraud headlines about it saying, you know, papyrus describing how they built the pyramids. That is the biggest clickbait nonsense because if you actually look at what was detailed on it, it doesn't say anything. It doesn't use the word pyramid. It doesn't say what they were used for. All it says is horizon of Khufu.

And so what some people interpret that to mean is that the alleged ph pharaoh who built the great pyramid his name was kufu and that horizon of kufu essentially could indicate oh his resting place as in horizon being to the west where you go when you die that's all that thing says and it was already known joe that some of the blocks were bought to giza so i just want to point that out because i know that people are going to google this stuff i'm like oh no no we know exactly how they did it. I like how you use this goofy voice. You have your dissenters. All your dissenters have goofy voices. As you see here, you've got this papyrus that will explain everything.

It doesn't. So this papyrus is some kind of a receipt? Is that the idea? It was – I forgot. Yes, it was – I'm forgetting his name off the top. But it was a gentleman, and he was moving blocks. But the thing that people need to realize is that there are, there are hundreds and hundreds of other structures right around the great pyramid that are unbelievably smaller.

And the blocks are unbelievably smaller than the ones in the pyramid. There's a lot of things that were built there over a few thousand years. So it's like that it doesn't prove that I was for the pyramid and I don't think it is, but who knows because I know how the skeptics are. So I want to be open-minded. But like the reality is it does not say pyramid. It doesn't describe how anything was constructed. It's worth saying. But either way, it is a limestone receipt.

So there was some sort of trade in these stones. And is there any depictions of transport of these blocks? Zero, except there is one that was, I don't know if it was the Tomb of Renkara, whatever. I might be getting the name wrong. But it shows a 58-ton statue that they dragged on sleds, and it seems to depict them pouring water. But it's worth mentioning— What is that one? How does someone find that? I'd have to.

I mean, I have it on my. I brought my computer. I just don't have it in here with me. I wish I could show it to you. Type in Egyptians sled statue. And Google will bring that up under Google image. Is that it right there? Boom.

So that's a recreation because this was destroyed and damaged. But someone had interpreted it. It was destroyed and damaged, but someone had interpreted it. It was destroyed and damaged how? I believe it was water flooding. There was different places. I could be wrong on that. Can you click on that, Jamie, so we could see it larger? But they're showing that's what was allegedly depicted.

I use allegedly just because we can't see it today, but I don't have any doubt. I'm just saying. Hold on. Sorry. We're talking about this. When was this destroyed? Oh, not long, in 1850, something like that. See the head of it?

A hundred something years ago. Down, Jamie. Yeah, so we get the full image. Look out. So the idea is that you got all these guys pulling, it's on a sled, and they're pouring water. And how old do they think this image was? I believe, if I remember right, 3,500 years. Well, that seems pretty reasonable that they moved it this way. Have

you ever seen those videos from the 1930s of them moving entire buildings, like huge buildings? I haven't seen that. See if you can find the time-lapse videos of them moving buildings from the 1930s. Not only did they move these buildings like several inches a day, and they completely rotated like 180 degrees where the foundation of the building lay, but they also kept the power and electricity and the gas on. This one I just saw. Watch this. This is it.

People didn't quit working the entire time. Yeah, the people that were in the building kept working so it's an eight-story 11 000 ton indiana bell building rotation in 1930 so in 1930 first of all you have to take into consideration the sophistication of the machinery was very different than we have today i mean most of these buildings were made with bricks they you know they had steel beams and structures like i'm sure you've seen the those construction most of these buildings are made with bricks. They, you know, they had steel beams and structures. Like I'm sure you've seen the, those construction photos of these guys that were eating lunch on a, on a beam high above New York city, which is fucking wild. That scares the shit out. I get sweaty hands just looking at those pictures.

I'm not even afraid to hide. Go back to that video please. But that video of this building, Go back to that video, please. But that video of this building, I mean, you think about it. This is in 1930, and, you know, obviously we can do much more today than we could then. But what they did, play it. Yeah, I know. But when you watch this happen, like, this is fucking wild, man. They moved this entire building.

I am, let me just say, I am less impressed by the moving of things because technically, like, if you use wedges, you could lift a whole house. They just keep jamming them in there. It's kind of like – so although one random thought I'm having is that with that prior illustration of that 58-ton statue, there's other ones in Egypt called the Colossi of Memnon, and those are 720 tons apiece, and they were carved estimated from one out of one piece of stone, a thousand ton stone and moved tremendous distances. So I'd like to see that done, but I would think that that same method could be done to scale. And so I don't disagree with it. What I am curious about, Joe, is how they got those 120 or 130, 70 ton granite blocks more than 300 feet up into the Great Pyramid alleged king chamber. Yeah. Well, these images and that building, that's a good point, is that this is not made with enormous stones.

Even though the building itself is enormous, we know that piece by piece it wasn't really that big. Right. Except for the beams and some of the structural elements of it. But if you look at some of those king's chamber stones, I mean, my God, and they're so perfectly cut. It's unreal. It's unreal, Joe. And that's the thing that impresses me more is the cuts themselves. Yeah.

Because the Egyptians are said to be a bronze age culture, which means that's supposed to be the most sophisticated type of tooling that they had. However, when modern tests have been done on testing it on granite and limestone, it's failed miserably. And what I mean by that is that you can technically cut these things in half, but it takes a tremendous amount of time. And if they were alleged, because each pyramid and keep in mind, there's more like something 118 pyramids in Egypt, a lot of people don't realize that they just think of the, just think of the three big ones in Giza. But all of these, if they were said to be tombs for the pharaohs, which I don't agree with, and for a variety of reasons, they were all said to be done in a chronological like the Great Pyramid is 2.3 million. You have the other couple that are a couple million a pop, and then does include all the other tens of millions of blocks to make up statues, casing stones, other buildings, literally. I mean,

I estimate, and this is just a ballpark, but it had to have been at least 50 million stones cut throughout ancient Egypt. And I'm like, when you're doing it with methods that can barely get more than an inch an hour, and by that I'm talking a copper saw, and they pour in sand and water, and essentially the quartzite particles are what's cutting it. But, Joe, it's so slow, and not to mention the precision is nowhere near it. And it's a mystery because there's a few things people need to know is that nowhere in all the tens of thousands of hieroglyphs found throughout ancient Egypt, not one single one of them shows anything about them cutting stone, nor does it show anything depicting the construction of a pyramid. Well, we lost a lot during the Library of Alexandria burning, right? Well, yes. So I made a video on that years ago saying that you know the stupid caesar burnt that thing down but you know i'm starting to think joe i'm like the caesars were highly intelligent and they they were gatherers gatherers of information

and documented everything i'm like you know joe they kept that i would have raided that thing took all that information and now it gets me thinking about like you know vatican archives and stuff yeah but hold on a second you weren't there right like the caesar probably wasn't there either they sent people well okay right but he invaded that yeah they invaded but do you think like he was there like they probably had a bunch of barbarians at the helm and these savages were bloodthirsty and they're getting crazy and killing people and taking over Egypt. They lit shit on fire. They probably weren't even thinking that, hey, the actual construction methods that we could pass down from generation to generation are here. It's possible.

I don't know. I don't know either. So you think they kept it in the Vatican? Well, no, no. Hold on. That is a fun topic. I don't – I'm not convinced of it. It just seems to me that throughout war, people intelligence whenever like they capture somebody and they kill them.

And it just seems to me that the Caesars would have possibly maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. Maybe they burnt it all down or maybe they kept that stuff. Have you been to the Vatican? No. It's wild. Yeah. Vatican's confusing. Yeah.

Because there's so much shit there. I knew that there was an immense amount of artwork there. much shit there you i i knew that there was an immense amount of artwork there but um when you actually go there and you see the billions and billions of dollars worth of art that was accumulated over who knows how many hundreds if not thousands of years it's pretty shocking yeah it's like a raiders horde i mean that's really what it is it's like they well yeah they clearly stole all this shit yeah it's like the romans you got to think about because that all originates from the romans i just want to remind everybody that like when they took over like a quarter of the world's population all of europe they didn't like show them like hey you know we'd like to just can we

have your land like everyone that didn't speak the language was a barbarian and they they pillaged raped and took it and just stole it. It's ours now. Yeah, and they have it all in one spot. And that one spot is also its own country, which is weird. It's its own country inside Italy. So it has its own extradition laws, which is great because it happens to be overrun with pedophiles. Yes, this is true.

It's pretty fucked. And meanwhile, they have 53 miles of shelf space within that archive. That's why I was getting my conspiracy ideas going because it's like, no one's allowed in there. You have to be a certain academic and you have to get permission and not only, so you can't just go browse it. You have to specifically request what you want to look at. And the issue with that is that if you don't know it exists, how do you know to ask for it? So it's like, who knows what type of information could be in there? I'm not suggesting that the shelves are lined with secrets from Egypt or anything, but it does make me wonder. I mean, that's 53 miles of shelf spaces is an astronomical amount

of old ancient texts. Yeah, it really is. It's pretty fascinating that this one country, whatever you want to call the Vatican, has accumulated such an immense stash of artwork and of knowledge and of information. And just the tapestries alone that they have. You just pass by the paintings and the sculptures. It's like, it's really mind-blowing. Look, I did it over the course of a couple of days,

but I think you need months. I imagine. To go and really pay attention to it, to try to get a grasp of what the fuck they were doing. And also, like, it's really weird, like all the depictions of the men, they have tiny penises. And I asked the the we had this

guy was a professor who was the our guide we hired a private guide he's really really fun really intelligent guy but he said that they thought of large penises as being animalistic and barbaric I've heard this so they have these men with these perfect bodies like these these Greek gods, these tiny, tiny little penises. You know what I think? What? Well, whoever carved that stone maybe had a small dick and wanted to be like, see, this is normal.

This is what it looks like. Because I'm sorry, if you're doing quite well and we're endowed, I think it is a natural thing for women to like that, assuming that you're not too big. And so, I mean, this is reality. So it wouldn't have been any different you know because people have always made fun of small dicks because like you're not doing much for your lady potentially and so maybe this these guys were carved by there were some artsy guys and they had some they weren't packing if back then if they you know

the idea was that they were trying to get away from barbarism they're trying to get away from these raiding hordes of of beast-like men who came, like maybe they really did think of like god-like men as having like smaller penises. I mean, the weird thing about like aesthetics and what people like and don't like is that it changes over time, right? Like at one point in time, really overweight women were considered attractive because really overweight women had access to food. Yeah. Whereas really thin women were considered attractive because really overweight women had access to food. Yeah. Whereas really thin women were considered like sad and poor, like a model of today.

If she went back to like the Renaissance, they would look at her like this poor girl. Right. You know? Yeah. It just seems to me because like when you see that beautiful statue or statues that penis is so small joe they could have made a little bit bigger is all i'm saying and still not been barbaric i understand but i mean this is what this guy i know you are but this is what this guy was telling me that this is what they were i mean you're talking about a time you know a thousand two thousand years ago

where you're dealing with the roman empire you're dealing with the the Empire, you're dealing with the Germans and the barbarians and the Mongols and the Khans, and there's so much chaos and barbarism. There's so much slaughter and just hardcore hand-to-hand combat. Genghis Khan was lighting bodies on fire and launched them in catapults. It was wild times. So I think that maybe they were just trying to express a more delicate side of nature and mankind. Anyway, it's not that important.

Yeah, it's a fun topic. What is important is that they did have in the center of one of their courtyards, they have an obelisk from Egypt that they had imported somehow or another, this fucking immense stone obelisk. I took a photo of it. I know it's on my phone somewhere, but I'm not going to find it right now. But they brought it from Egypt. And that's not close. No.

And they figured out a way to get that thing there. Who knows how many fucking years ago. I forgot it. It was like 100 or so years. I could be wrong. But I know that these obelisks have been brought over everywhere. It's not just Rome. They're in France.

They're in London. It's in New York. It's kind of weird. New York has obelisks? They have one in Central Park. Really? I'm 90% certain. Oh, that's right.

We've talked about this. Yes, that's right. That's right. It was a gift. Yeah yeah go to that photo because that's fucking wild we have an egyptian obelisk in central park what was the significance of the obelisk why were the egypts why were the egyptians uh really interested in that particular shape it's a good question i don't think to the answer joe i don't think anyone can say with certainty cleopatra's needle go back to that please yeah look at that the description cleopatra's Needle. Go back to that, please. Yeah, look at that.

The description. Cleopatra's Needle in New York. No, go back right there. Yeah, Cleopatra's Needle in New York City is one of the three similarly named Egyptian obelisks erected in Central Park, west of the Metropolitan Museum of Art in Manhattan in January 22, 1881. Wow. That's pretty cool. It is very cool. Although, it worth mentioning though, Joe, like Egypt has been completely rat fucked. It has been looted

over millennia. You had the ancient Greeks invaded, the Romans invaded. I mean, Alexander the Great went through. Egypt was, was for whatever reason a highly desirable spot where has been completely numerous times over history has been just completely decimated and stolen and and everything else and i find that interesting joe because i'm like they were drawn to it for for who knows how many different reasons i mean why what why would they feel over thousands of years, people have been trying to take that place over and have actually, because even the British, like when you look at like their more modern history, Joe, that place has been completely screwed with for thousands of

years. And it's worth mentioning that if you go back to the alleged pyramid builders, which was said to be the fourth dynasty of 4,500 or so years ago. Why do you say alleged? You don't think that they're the people that built it? There's pretty good evidence. Somebody built it. There's pretty good evidence that it's 2,500 BC was the construction date of the pyramids, right? Well, yes.

And I don't necessarily disagree with that. But here's what my issue is that a lot of people don't realize that. So that was said to be the old kingdom. And there's been three kingdoms, Joe, and three, what they call intermediate periods. So for example, 4,500 or so years ago, Great Pyramid, the Pyramids of Giza. Within a thousand years after that, there was two periods of time where there's approximately 345 years of lost history. And it's called – they call them intermediate periods. So it went from Old Kingdom, intermediate period, which was like 120-something years, to Middle Kingdom, and then another one of like 200-something years.

So within less than 1,000 years after the alleged times that they were built, there's more than 300, almost 350 years of – because there was turmoil, by the way. The intermediate periods were – there was revolts. It was complete overthrow of the dynasties, civil war. So I'm like, what is it that the reoccurring theme that we see whenever there's a war? The history is written by the victor, so to speak. I think it was Winston Churchill that said that. And it's like in those periods of time when whoever took over and took the power and claimed that kingdom for themselves, which may have been inner, it may have been like a Civil War revolt or whatever, a revolution of some kind, that right there to me is that I don't know how much faith I put in that this alleged fourth dynasty was the ones that physically did it. I'm saying that maybe it was somebody else and those people claimed it from themselves saying, I did this perhaps because it's like the implications of 340 plus years of lost history immediately after that, that I think there's something to be said for that because look at what ISIS did, Joe, like they went through Iraq. And so I'm an Iraq war veteran.

And I had the privilege of seeing these Assyrian bulls. I think they're Sumerian because he found them completely buried in mud and dirt. And so I'm thinking like it goes back pre-flood, so to speak. And that these – so ISIS went through and completely bulldozed them. They got jackhammers. And it's pretty wild. One of the – What are you saying they got jackhammers? They destroyed them? Is that what you're saying?

Oh, yeah. Jamie, will you please bring up the gates of Nagal or type in Mosul, ISIS, ancient? So what's so wild, Joe, is that I was at the right place at the right time in Mosul during my deployment in 2009 and 10 to be able to see and touch these things with my own hands. And this is at the gate of Nagal at the ancient city of Nineveh. How old were these things supposedly? Well, so they'll say, you know, like 4,000 years old or so. I wonder if, so not there. Oh, Jesus Christ, they're destroying these things?

Oh, my God, this is horrible. I know, Joe. Oh, my God. Footage shows Islamic State militants in Iraq smashing statues of sledgehammers and a bid a crush a Bid to crush what they call non-Islamic ideas. Oh my god. This is fucking horrible. It gets worse than this. Oh my god All right, so oh my god. This is fucking terrible It's hard to see man. Oh my god fucking humans So they're destroying these thousands of year old artifacts, and they're doing it with sledgehammers oh jesus

christ this is crazy yep oh my god these fucking idiots so yeah see there's the jackhammers but that's not even this these aren't even the images i'm all right so there that's where i was that's the gate of nirgal the ancient city of nineveh was said to be where Jonah had went after he escaped the whale from the biblical story. And so that's the same gate that allegedly he had went. And so, Jamie, if you could just bring up, because there's a specific, a few articles that show that spot. And these huge, are you familiar with the winged bulls? They're called Lamassu. No.

They're like 15 feet tall. You got to see them, Jamie. This is so worth it. And so these things were unbelievably impressive. And they went through ISIS, Joe. They got huge earth-moving equipment, like dozers. And they, all right, there it is. This is what I'm talking about.

So the picture on the upper left, that's exactly where I was. And there's a picture of ISIS. God, these fucking idiots. So that picture with the guy in the black, that. So I have a picture of me standing right in front of that. Oh, my God. He's just destroying that face. Oh, Jesus Christ.

And it's wild because I remember seeing this on the news and be like, holy shit, I stood right there. And these things were so impressive and, and the artwork themselves, the precision of them was unbelievable. Huge pieces of granite or maybe they're, someone should have stepped in. I mean, we fucking Christ.

If there's ever a reason to step in and stop morons from doing something horrific, that is like a real priceless part of history the history of the entire human race we should have stepped in someone should have stepped in to stop that that is fucking priceless stuff

god that's horrible oh my god look at that so this is what gets my brain going Joe I'm like this is humans just destroying these things it's all gone So this is what gets my brain going, Joe. I'm like, this is humans. They've been doing this since 2014? Just destroying these things? Oh, they're done now.

It's all gone? Yeah. Oh, my God. They did their dirty work well, Joe. Fucking morons. Yeah. Jesus Christ, look at this. This is insane.

So that's what stands out in my mind, Joe, is that I'm like, you know. God, that's horrific. Yeah. And it does... Something tells me this isn't the first time... Oh, look how they destroyed that. Oh, my God. This can't be the first time humans have invaded a place and destroyed stuff from the past

because they didn't want it to exist, maybe for religious reasons or for whatever. And so, when I hear about this lost history in Egypt immediately after the dynasty that was said to have built the pyramids, it makes me wonder what history was lost in that process by either claiming it for themselves, like I did this, and then essentially that was passed down to something we are talking about today. God, this is so hard to watch. You look at those images, it's so hard to watch. You know, because I've been obsessed with the ancient Middle East as well,

like the ancient Sumerians and Mesopotamia and basically the cradle of civilization, of what we know of civilization. To see them just destroy those things, like fucking Christ. Some of the oldest relics ever. Yeah. God, it's so disturbing.

Humans, huh? It's not humans. It's morons. Yeah. Most humans would revere those things. Most humans would look at those things and say, my God, like, what incredible structures. And, like, this is a window into the past. And we could try to figure out, like, what these people were like and what life was like.

Yeah. Fucking God. Jesus. It's hard to say. It is. And there was no effort to stop that? None, Joe. So this was the hardest thing for me, Joe, is that I volunteered to go to Iraq.

I was inspired by 9-11. So I volunteered to go there because I thought it was liberating the Iraqi people. And coming home and seeing that in the way that – so one of the worst things you could say that happened when ISIS invaded is that they killed off the Yazidi people, which were a completely peaceful people who lived essentially in northern Iraq, Kurdistan. And these people were absolutely harmless. And they came through and they killed the men and they took the women. So along with killing or beating up those statues, they were also completely decimating the people themselves.

Yeah. Yeah. But this is modern humans, which relatively speaking are less vicious and less barbaric. I mean, if you study like Steven Pinker's work, as you go back in history, people are more violent. As you go forward in history, life is safer and you have less crime and less rape, less murder. and you have less crime and less rape, less murder. So going back to your point when we were talking about the Romans and the savages and the barbarians,

so let's back up another 2,500 years before even them, which would be like Great Pyramid of Giza time. So isn't it fair to say that those people would have been capable of destroying and just doing their dirty work well, you know, despicable, barbaric savagery. You know what I mean? So it makes me wonder. Like, I think that there is. Okay. So, for example, when I was saying that there's no depictions of any kind of how they cut these stones, I think it's because someone destroyed that. Honestly, I don't think it's because they didn't record it somewhere. I think it's just somewhere along the line.

Somebody beat the shit out of it. Well, there's no dispute of that. That's what the concept of burning of the library of Alexander. That's what most people believe. Yeah. The theory is that they went in there and lit everything on fire and that's where all the records were. Now,

out of the construction that is depicted in the pyramids, is there any construction of the flooring? Like, because there's immense stones they used for just the floors. Yeah. Is there any of that?

Zero, Joe. Literally zero. The only depiction of any kind goes from the tomb of Renkari or something. It's hard to pronounce, but it just shows some guys dressing a stone and also a statue with some chisels. It doesn't show how they cut the blocks. What is the name of the –

R-E-N-I-E-K-E-R-E, I think. But I think I'm misspelling it, to be honest. But it doesn't show anything about cutting or anything. And one of the things, Joe, is that there is different clear technology in the works of the Egyptians. You have some that's incredibly crude and some of it truly megalithic and spectacular. And what I argue, and others do as well, is that simply you're looking at two different things done by different people in different periods of time that had different capabilities. And some were more impressive than others. What's interesting is, at least as far as carbon dating, some of the least impressive stuff is the later stuff.

That's what's so interesting, Joe, is that the most spectacular stuff is the oldest. And that's why, to me, I wonder, one, if the pyramids could be older. And if not, I think that our understanding is because it's one of two ways. Either they're older and we have since, because of time our understanding is because it's one of two ways. Either they're older and we have since, because of time and the sands of time have lost how they did it, or our understanding of what the so-called dynastic Egyptians were up to 4,500 years ago is just significantly different than what we know today. But correct me if I'm wrong, but they have carbon dated some of the material that's inside of the cracks of some of

the stones. And that's what they come up with is 2,500 BC. I think even Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and Robert Shock and all these other people that are arguing for an earlier date for some of the construction, they believe that like the Great Pyramid of Giza, that that one is 2,500 BC. They certainly do. And I'm not disagreeing. It is possible, though, that the Egyptians had restored those casing stones. Because if you look at the Great Sphinx, it's already known. So the Great Sphinx is supposed to be 4,200 years old. But something like 100 or 200 years after that is the evidence of the first restorations of adding more casing stones. And so it's like, well, maybe that happened to the pyramid as well.

So technically, it doesn't prove that that is the birth of the Great Pyramid, but that the earliest evidence of when humans had did something to it since. But let me just say, let me be clear. I'm not suggesting and I haven't said in a video that I think that the pyramids are 12,000 years old. I just, what I think is that the reality is that it's a mystery. We don't know how they did it. Can I ask you this? Sure. The thing about carbon dating is you don't really do that with rocks. You can't.

Because if you did, everything would be billions of years old. Right. Because these rocks are billions of years old. You cannot date stone. Right. If they did, everything would be billions of years old. Right. Because these rocks are billions of years old. Yeah, you cannot date stone.

Right. So what are they – they're using pieces of material that they find at the site, under the ground, like next to it, and then they kind of get a rough idea? Sure. Is that the idea? Anything that's organic. Anything that was – whether it's a piece of wood or an ancient piece of leaf that's stuck to a rock or something. It was whether it's a piece of wood or an ancient piece of leaf that's stuck to a rock or something. So, yeah, to me, all it proves is that somebody had done something to it then.

I don't think it 100% proves it was done, built originally then. It's possibly restored it because if we know that there's no discrepancy on the restoration of the Sphinx. In fact, it shows that it's been restored several times. Even the Romans restored it. But the earliest restoration was something less than that. How did the Romans restore it? They set casing stones to it. It's actually pretty wild to see.

You've got to see it in person or a picture of it for me to show you. But like, just adding stones over it to make it look better, I guess. Yeah, I know they've done that more recently with the paws. Significantly. It kind of sucks that they did it. I agree. I don't know why they would, it just seems so dumb that they would fuck with that and

try to make it smooth and pretty. Like part of what's beautiful about is the age of it. But Robert Shock, who I've had on the podcast before, he was the first geologist to stick his neck out and say that the water erosion around the Temple of the Sphinx indicates thousands of years of rainfall. And like you were saying, when it comes to the Sahara, it's the same thing with the Nile Valley. The last time there was significant rainfall in the Nile Valley was 9,000 years ago. And then you have to look at the thousands of years of rainfall required to make these deep fissures in the

stone where the softer areas are eroded and you have these deep vertical fissures that indicate that water coming down from the top and leaking through have created all this stuff. And so his timeline is thousands of years before 9,000 BC because it's required that much time to create this erosion. That's very controversial around traditional, like the Egyptologists that want to follow the conventional timeline. They come up with all sorts of alternative reasons

for why these fissures exist. But one of the more fascinating things that Robert Schock did was he put a masking tape over the areas that would clearly indicate where this was happening. And he brought it to a series of geologists. And he said, does this image represent, in your opinion, wind and sand erosion, or does it indicate water? All of them said it indicated water. All of them said it indicated rainfall. And then when he pulled it aside and showed that this was actually the Sphinx, they were like, I'm not putting my fucking name on that.

Like very few of them wanted to stick their neck. More have since, since he's come forward. There's been many geologists that have agreed with him, but initially people were very hesitant to stick their neck out because in academia, which is really fascinating, challenging conventional ideas gets you in deep shit because even though we would like to believe that these archaeologists and scientists and historians

only base their opinions on data, only base their opinions on what's in front of them. That's not true. A lot of them have a long history of teaching things that eventually turn out to be incorrect, and they are deeply embarrassed, and they fight it tooth and claw. They do everything they can to discredit any idea that they could be incorrect. And it's fascinating to watch. And one of them that was fascinating to watch was John Anthony West and Robert Shock had had this conversation about the Sphinx and about the erosion of the Sphinx with this conventional Egyptologist that was working with Zawah Hawass, who was the head of antiquities. And when they did have this conversation, the way this guy was mocking them,

the way this guy was saying, where's the evidence of this civilization from 12,000 years ago capable of doing this? He was using your mocking voice, like using the voice that you use for your detractors. And it wasn't a scientific conversation. It wasn't like a fact-based objective analysis of all the evidence that's in front of you. It was instead this guy trying to defend these decades of teaching. He's been writing books and papers and teaching lectures about this stuff, and it turns out he's probably really wrong. And he was fighting it with every ounce of his being now since that then the construction or then the uh rather excavation of gobekli tepe uh took place where they realized that this is undeniably at least 12 000 years old because it was covered somewhat intentionally they think they think that intentionally it was covered up because it was covered somewhat intentionally. They think that intentionally it was covered up, that it was buried 12,000 years ago. So that means, well, how long was

this fucking thing built? How long ago was this made? If someone intentionally covered it up 12,000 years ago, how long was it around before they did that? So this is that evidence that guy was talking about. This evidence of an advanced civilization. Now we know for sure there's evidence of an advanced civilization. We have the actual stone structures. We have the actual carbon dating, and not just a little bit of it. We have massive amounts of it because the entire structure has been slowly excavated, and it reveals this enormous series of buildings and of stone columns and 3D carvings that are in it.

It's really wild, wild stuff. And the idea that this was all done by unsophisticated hunters and gatherers who had time to build this in between like eating berries and trying to kill squirrels. I guess it's wild. It is. And there's a few things to say there, Joe. So going back to Dr. Robert Schock, so what I had heard is that when he presented that water erosion evidence of the Sphinx, apparently he was at a conference of nearly 200 geologists,

and everyone in the room was like, uh-huh. Because he did a comparison essentially. It was like, would you agree that this limestone has water erosion? And would you agree that this limestone has wind and sand erosion? Right. It's a resounding yes. And it turns out he was showing you two different parts of the Sphinx. The enclosure has the water erosion and the above the neck in the chest has the wind and sand.

And what's so wild about this, Joe, is that there's still so many people in the so-called, I on the mainstream that are denying this water erosion. Like this is the thing, Sojay, I don't consider myself an expert. I'm somebody that can look at, I mean, I know more than maybe some, but like I can look at information and think for myself on a variety of topics to show me I want to hear both sides. And I can think I can use discernment. And what's so interesting to some people who are trying to debunk Dr. Robert Shock's work, to some people who are trying to debunk Dr. Robert Schock's work. It's like, you know, because we have www.google.com, you can literally go and look for examples of limestone from around the world that have known water erosion

and then go do the same for wind and sand erosion. And it's there for all who have eyes to see. The enclosure has significant water erosion. I mean, this is literally, you don't have to go to school for a bunch of years to get a doctorate in geology to at least wrap your head around that it is indeed water erosion. And the implications of it are astounding because it means that if the Sphinx is supposed to be 4,200 years old, and yet the last time the Nile Delta region had significant rainfall was nearly double the age of that. That in itself is, I mean, I would consider that to be scientific evidence that it is older. Well, it's the hardest evidence we have, really. Geological evidence is the most tangible because you could actually see it.

It's like it's right there. And everything else, they're slowly uncovering history. And as they're literally uncovering it, they're digging this stuff up. And particularly in Egypt, what's really fascinating is that they find these completely different building structures, like these construction methods. If you go back to the older buildings that are deeper under the ground,

they have a very different style to them. Yeah. Like they use much larger stones and they use them like sitting on top of each other, like as like these structures and these hallways and columns. And it's like you clearly see the difference between the stones where they laid stones

next to each other and this one where there are immense stones sitting on other immense stones. There's a very specific style to them. And it seems like the more sophisticated methods are the older methods because the stones are larger. It's true. And the reality is that what we know, the ancients were more advanced than what we give them credit for. And one thing I've seen as I've gone down this path about talking about potential lost technology is people need to realize, like, the word advanced is relative. When you say that they were advanced, some people will jump to the conclusion like, oh, so you're suggesting they had internet.

And let's go back to that voice again and Wi-Fi and other things like advanced is relative. It means that they had more capabilities than what we give them credit for and yeah it's it's another thing i was about to say um is that i'm losing my train of thought on that they um they oh yeah technology technology can be anything a saddle on a horse is technology yeah when people think technology they some people jump in like what does that mean they have lasers, machinery and stuff? I'm like, no, it just means they had a capability that is since gone or we're just not aware of. Well, let's talk about the sarcophagus in the King's Chamber and the way that they somehow or another carved it out. Because there's real evidence that there was some sort of a circular drilling tool that they used to carve

out the inside of the sarcophagus and something that had an incredibly hard cutting surface they don't know what it was but if you go to there's there's images of the inside of the sarcophagus and um they they showed that they were trying to figure out like how this thing was carved see if the like uh carving methods circular drill so type in circular circular drill carving there was this whole debate about how they dug it out and they think that what because it correct me if i'm wrong but isn't it made out of one large piece of granite correct grows granite yeah and they think that what they did was use some sort does it show it there all i remember seeing on it was rake marks like there was some crude there was some sort of a documentary that was pointing to some aspect of it that said it seemed like they used some sort of a circular drilling tool to hollow out the center of this thing.

What is that right there? Lower left-hand corner? Copper coring drills. Copper coring drills. Look at that. Look at it right there. The middle one there? The middle one, yep. Look at that. Look at it right there, the middle one there. The middle one, yep.

What is that? What the fuck is that? So that's them carving out a, using that same drilling technique that you're referring to and just doing it over and over again to carve out. So there's a core-grilled granite. So you see it right there in the lower right-hand, yeah, that's it right there. Like, look at that. See, what is that?

Like, how do they drill that? Yeah. So it says core-drilled granite in ancient Egypt. And what we're looking at is something that looks like it was a circular drill that was pulling out these cylinders from the granite. And how they did that and how long it took. See, this is an incomplete drilling, which is really fascinating because you can actually see that it probably took a long-ass time for them to do this.

And you see like a partially done version of it. But when you see these circular cuts like that right there, like what the fuck did they use? like that right there like what the fuck did they use some argue that they they that the repetition of these drill holes was done at a speed you couldn't possibly do with your own hand i mean i'm not how did they why did they say that well so if you measure from each striation to the next that would indicate one revolution of the drill and so some are saying that it's far quicker and let me give a shout out real quick to my buddy, Ben, who I went to Egypt and Peru with. He has an awesome YouTube channel called Uncharted X. Uncharted X is a great channel. He's wonderful. You would love to

talk to him. Is he from Australia? He is. He lives here in the States with his wife, who are wonderful people. And I got to tell you, he gets deep into this stuff, Joe. Wonderful people and I got to tell you he is here. He gets deep into this stuff Joe I'm sure he does his his YouTube channels incredible So if you look at this, this is a modern tool that they're using to do the same or similar work and what it is is a tool that's on this like tread or track and it rolls in and drills as it rolls in and and it rolls in and drills as it rolls in. And they have a circle.

These are diamond-tipped machines that are hydraulic pressured. And the Egyptologists claim, it says right here, the Egyptologists claim that ancient Egyptians cut granite using copper saws. Copper saws water and sand. It says fine, cutting granite, separating a stone block into two pieces. We do not doubt this. It's doable. But to reach the level of precision found in, how do you say that word?

Abuser? Abuser? Abusir. Abusir. Should be two words. Manual work is not enough. Not enough in terms of pressure and regularity. In order to cut granite today, we tried to reach a pressure on the drilling head of 18 to 30 pounds per square inch, which is 226 to 380 pounds of pressure for a four-inch diameter drill hole.

How can you apply such pressure by hand while keeping a mobile tool in order for it to actually perform the drilling? This is the question. So they're trying to figure out what the fuck these people use. But they use something. Because if you look at that, so that's a good example. William Matthew Flinders Petrie during the late 19th century research, and he wrote that the level reached is astonishing in terms of the drilled holes. So you can see the grooves. Yep. And the grooves help determine the power of the drilled holes. So you can see the grooves.

Yep. And the grooves help determine the power of the machines. Here is what you were just talking about. The space between the two grooves indicates how further the machine goes after each drilling revolution. The space between grooves and Abu Seer are between 1 1 25th of an inch and 1 10th of an inch. Wow. Look at that fucking crazy in 1983 chris dunn interviewed dr ronald ron from the is that am i saying his name right

r-a-h-n ron from the ron granite surface plate company in dayton ohio ron indicated that in order to drill granite they were using heads drilling at a revolution speed of 9,000 revolutions per minute. Or 900, excuse me, 900 revolutions per minute. Going one inch into the block every five minutes, every 300 seconds.

In other words, two ten thousandths of an inch for every revolution. The tools used by the Egyptians were therefore 180 for one tenth of an inch between the grooves to 450 for one twenty-fifth of an inch in between the grooves, times better performing than our 1983 modern technology. Fuck. That's crazy. But look at these, we're looking at these images, folks, of these holes that they cut into the granite. And you see these perfect grooves where whatever they were using, whatever kind of drill they were using, it left behind.

And the fact that these drills were far better than what we had in the 1980s when they wrote this. It's worth mentioning that, see, this is another example where there's two different examples. Because I have seen examples where there's some that is primitive and you can do it with like a piece of wood and you just spend it over time and you keep grinding away and- Hold on. Don't change. Don't change. Stay right there. Keep going. And then there's a difference between these ones with the striations. And I'm like, because some people, you know, immediately like, no, they were capable of doing some drilling with primitive methods. I'm like, I agree.

But then you have these ones that are spectacular. And I would like to see these methods demonstrated. See, that's the thing, Joe. There's going to be some people listening to this and be like, wow, I'm sure that there's got to be an explanation, but Joe, I can show you videos of them demonstrating sock hunting techniques that are said to have been done by the Egyptians or alleged these primitive methods. And you see how slow it is, Joe. Yeah, Jamie, stop.

Stop scrolling. Go up a little bit. Look at this, what it says right here. They're showing a video and it says in this video, we see a 10 inch hole being drilled in only three minutes. This is a modern video. A real feat. It says, let's do the same calculation.

By this time, it'll take a 1,200 RPM revolution speed, 33% faster than in 1983. So what they had in 1983. So all these calculations, blah, blah, blah, were still, right now, in 1983, they were 14 times less effective than the Egyptians with grooves separated by 1 25th of an inch. And it says, but what does 14 times less efficient really mean? It means that while our modern diamond tips machinery completed one revolution

and drilled 1 360th of an inch, the Egyptian tool had already drilled one 360th of an inch the egyptian tool had already drilled one 25th of an inch 14 times more wow the evidence is in front of us joe this is wild shit man people say you know what's the evidence that ancients were advanced i'm like it's right there like that oh god Oh, God, here we go. This is the video they're talking about. So this is the video of them using modern equipment to drill into it and saying that this stuff that they had in 1983, that the Egyptians had something that was 14 times better. And keep in mind, again, diamond tipped. That's what people need to remember.

So are we suggesting the ancients had that? Because that's what we're using. And they pour water over it the whole time, too. Because otherwise the thing will melt. Right. So we have zero idea how they did it. Correct. It is.

But we do know they did it. Someone did it. Absolutely. What's amazing is seeing that actual physical evidence is, again, the geological evidence. I guess it's sort of geological and archaeological at the same time, right? Because they're carving into stone. Right. But seeing these carvings, the marks, and the fact that it's a perfect tube,

that they pulled the cylinder out. Yep. Jamie, will you real quick bring up my YouTube page? There's my second to most recent video. There's a short clip in it where I show you these mainstream Egyptologists, Zahi Was, Mark Lehner, the top dogs. Like their names are cited in every textbook

on these subjects. And you will see these methods where they try these primitive methods and they demonstrate. Yeah, I've seen that. It doesn't work at all. Well, it's so unbelievably slow, it's not feasible to be the explanation. And let me just say the only reason why these are the suggested methods, Joe, is because like, well, the Egyptians were a Bronze Age culture, so they had to use bronze, and that's the end of the story. Yet there's not one single depiction, Joe. All right, that one, where it says, this is how you know ancients.

All right, that one. And just skip forward, perhaps. Look at that handsome bastard. So here's an amazing photo of how close the cuts were and about how precision cut these stone slabs that were used for the flooring are. Compare that to my hotel room key. That's right next. That's flooring tile, casings, or stones, excuse me.

That's right next to the Great Pyramid. Yeah. All right. So, Jamie, if you go back, I believe it's the first, between the first minute and two minutes, actually, the clip is. Where they're trying to recreate it. Go forward a little bit more. Look at that, by the way.

Look at that sucker. 30-ton stone. There's Ben on Chartered X. Love you. There he is right there. Hi, Ben. Ditch the ponytail, buddy. No, no, no, no.

Don't tell him to. I told you he's got to bring that back. He's got to keep growing his hair, and he needs to lay it out. Keep going a little bit forward, Jamie. Look at that stone with you standing in front of it. That's incredible. All right.

Yeah, so that one right there is at least 50 tons and was brought from more than 500 miles away, and look at the polygonal nature of it. That's incredible. So that one right there is at least 50 tons and was brought from more than 500 miles away. And look at the polygonal nature of it. Unbelievable. That's rose granite. That's what's fascinating to me is that they chose to cut it perfectly flat with no gap but yet uneven.

They make these interesting jigsaw puzzle-like shapes. They're interlocked. Totally earthquake-proof. Do you think that's why they carved it like that? That's my best guess. jigsaw puzzle-like shapes. They're interlocked, totally earthquake-proof. And, Sir Jimmy, just go back a few more seconds. Do you think that's why they carved it like that? That's my best guess. And that's just showing off because how awesome it looks.

Look at this picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is them. This is, okay, so right there, that's the alleged method. All right, go back a few more seconds. Right there, right there. I know, it's because it's 18-minute videos.

All right, right there. Press pause if you could. So this is a recreation of a glyph of a painting that once existed. It was destroyed. So this is, Joe, quite literally the only example of them even doing anything with stone depicted. There's one other stone or picture that's right next to it doing a statue. But this, just to clarify, is not showing them cut a block. And those are, I mean, this is the measuring methods. Yeah.

What do you think they're using in terms of like when those guys are on their knees and they have those things that are showing a line? What do you think that is? I think that they're doing measurements in order to put in hieroglyphs because we know they did. There's actual evidence of them doing glyphs over prior work. It's on some of the statues. And so it quite literally could just be showing them carved stuff into it because I saw examples where you have this wonderful stone and then these crude glyphs carved into it.

And I'm like, it's like Sesame Street. One of these things is not like the other. Why would the glyphs look like shit in comparison to a wonderful block? And that's not to say all the glyphs look like shit. Some are spectacular and were done by the Egyptians or the dynastic Egyptians. Let me just clarify to anyone listening. Dynastic Egyptians are the so-called ancient Egyptians we all learned about in school. My argument and others' argument is that there was people before them doing work. And something worth mentioning, Joe, is that the people in Egypt,

they believed in what's called Kemet, the people, K-H-E-M-I-T, the people that existed before the Egyptians. And when we hear these stories about the Great Pyramid being for a tomb for the pharaoh, it's worth mentioning that even the locals didn't believe that. And those theories weren't developed until the latter part of the 1800s, early 1900s by people that, explorers that came in from Germany, France, and England. And they are the ones. So just to clarify,

the saying that the pyramids were built to be tombs for the pharaohs, that that was their purpose, wasn't even developed until 150 years ago. That's it. They were learning, they were taught Kemet. And so you've seen the pyramid code, right? Have I heard you say that a long time ago? Yes. So that's on Netflix. So the tribal elder, Akeem Abdel Awian, that's in it, and he's the one teaching Kemet. So he's talking

about the people before the Egyptians. And so when I went to Egypt, I went and did a tour with his, one of his sons named Yosef Awian, and they live across the street from the Sphinx. It's been passed down in the family. They're on like the fifth floor, and it literally – their patio overlooks the great – or excuse me, the Sphinx. And he's also a master stonemason. But that's how I learned this stuff. They were taught – like these theories that like, oh, the pyramids were tombs, that's recent, and it was by invaders, so to speak. Like that's not something that was thought before that. And the pyramids were tombs that's recent and it was by invaders so to speak like that's not something that was that was thought before that and the locals in egypt how did that become doctrine how to become what everybody teaches so egypt became britain like

this is what i'm saying like they got they have quite literally been invaded and their entire government has been overthrown and redone so many times that we're even aware of. So it was already, I'm going to use the word corrupted, you know, in the 1800s, this is the British were going in and out of there. And so it's like this, all this, I call it the mainstream, the stuff you read about in the textbooks, which most of the documentaries and all this stuff, which is pyramids built to be tombs. This was all developed in modern times. There's absolutely nothing from the ancient Egyptians in any type of glyph that depicts, well, there's only a couple examples of pyramids, but it's burial sites right next to them. It's very, excuse me, very primitive. And it's like, that's it.

There's nothing else showing anything about it. There's nothing depicting that pharaohs or this is the place where they were burying kings. And it's worth mentioning that when you go through inside these pyramids of Giza, let's say, which are the most impressive, although the Red Pyramid and that pyramid are unbelievably impressive. There's not one single glyph in any of them whatsoever. There was a never a mummy found in any Egyptian pyramid ever. Now, that doesn't mean they weren't stolen and looted. That's possible. But quite literally, the only reason why we are told this stuff is because that was the theory developed by these men that went in there, you know, in the late 1800s and said, I believe these must have been for the pharaohs.

That makes sense. So there's no hieroglyphs that depict it as the zero. So it's all just one group of people had one theory and that theory just stuck around. 100%. And this is the stuff like they didn't teach me that in school, Joe. I didn't ever heard any of this. I was told these were built to be tombs for the pharaohs. How much did you learn about Egypt in school? Not much because it's like hardly like sixth grade, right?

Yeah, it's not something they teach a lot. If you want to really study it, you really have to get – I mean it's an incredibly complicated subject. Right. But all right. So people that go to school for this, learn history and learn archaeology and the ones that are taught about Egyptology, that's what they're taught. And not only that, there was a violent reaction to the Robert Shock podcast that I had by some Egyptologists that mocked him and reached out and said they wanted to come on and refute what he was saying. And it was interesting to watch their reaction to a geologist talking about erosion. So one thing I explain to people is that there's something happening and has been happening in the scientific and academic community.

It's the same thing we see in politics, Joe. It's a tribalism. It's no different than religion. You were, Joe. It's a tribalism. It's no different than religion. You were taught something. You believe it. Not just that. You're teaching it. Oh, yeah. Handing out. The big one is the teaching. It's not you were taught. Because I think when people have been taught things, they're willing to adjust. But when they've spent decades as the expert, explaining very carefully how it happened and what we know and celebrating

all these people that have done this great work and shown us how these ancients did these things. Then it turns out that they're completely wrong. Well, you've been fucking kids over with shitty education for decades. You don't want to admit it. Being wrong sucks. Nobody likes being wrong. But the thing about history is like, of course you're going to be wrong.

I mean, what they should do is they should say, this is what we thought. So for years, we were teaching this because that's what, as far as we knew, that was correct. Now we know differently. And this is what's amazing about archaeology. This is what's amazing about history. But they don't want to do that. Well, because then they would have to get rid of those books. Well, it's not just that show.

All right. So they'd have to get rid of the books. But there's other implications, too, which is money. Scientists and a lot of these people are making big bucks writing textbooks, handing out degrees, doing documentary opportunities, all kinds of stuff. So they've made a complete livelihood on something that is, let's say, partially incorrect. I'm not saying they're wrong about everything. But like so the implications, it's like there's big money around. Some of these people are making – they have done very well for themselves.

And so to be wrong, it's like, oh, shit. People don't like being wrong about anything. In fact, no. Yeah, it's a weird part about being a person is that we connect our ideas with our value as a person. Yeah. You know, this goes back, I like to make the comparison too, to Galileo. They were going to torture him to death. He had actual definitive evidence that we were rotating around the sun and not the other

way around. And they were like, no, no. And they're going to, Joe, they were going to, they put him on house arrest. He had to recant everything or else. And I'm like, that's a religious thing though. That's the same reason why these morons broke down those ancient structures in Iraq. When you look at the overall abundance of evidence when it comes to Egypt and you factor in these people like Graham Hancock and Buval and all these people that have looked at the history of the structures, like there's multiple kingdoms and multiple eras and that they had existed for a substantial amount of time. And why was it all in that one place? That's what's amazing. And when you say that these multiple kingdoms, so that's the story of Egypt.

They call it the old kingdom, which was followed by the intermediate period. So intermediate period is essentially lost history. That was an uprising. It was complete overthrow of the government. And you're talking the first intermediate was, like I said earlier, 126 years. Then they go by a few more hundred years. And then there was another 200 something year gap in that transition. So we were talking old kingdom, intermediate period, middle kingdom, intermediate period, and then new kingdom. So that's my point that I'm going back to is that how can we possibly say definitively or they talk so definitively about, say, the old kingdom. And I'm like, when two other kingdoms came after who could have wiped out that history or simply because it's thousands of years later passed out incorrect information. Here's a mind blower for people.

information. Here's a mind blower for people. The amount of time between Cleopatra and the iPhone is shorter than the amount of time between Cleopatra and the construction, the established construction date of 2,500 BC of the Great Pyramids. It's wild, huh? It's wild. Cleopatra lived closer to the iPhone than she did to the construction of the pyramids. I wish I could go back in time and date Cleopatra. You'd go out with her? Is that what you're saying? Wouldn't you? No, she's probably gross.

She probably didn't shave. The legends were that she was – For then. Her looks were just okay, but her personality is what seduced everyone. Oh, she had a great personality. Yeah, well, she seduced Caesar and then Mark Antony. Like, she was going for the top dogs, and they, you should look, like, some of the history behind it is wild in that they, like, she seduced these men and threw them off their

path and everything. Like, she knew what she was doing, Joe. Well, maybe she was awesome. My point is, the last thing I'd be interested in is going back there and having sex with somebody. I would want to go back and see what the fuck they were doing. Like, what was life like back then like what what what was ancient egypt like like what was it really truly like there's only speculation we we really don't have any idea we don't have any idea what

they're if you want want to go back to as far as robert shock and graham Graham Hancock want to indicate, they seem to point to a time where at least the construction of the Temple of the Sphinx, we're talking 10, 11, 12,000 years ago. What the fuck was that like? And when it was green. Because I can show you other sources that say 4,500 years. I'm talking about the Sahara being green. Jamie, if you wouldn't mind,

could you just Google Sahara green? Sahara talking about the Sahara being green. Jamie, if you wouldn't mind, could you just Google Sierra green? Sahara. Yeah, Sahara. Sahara? What was I saying? Sahara. Sahara. Sahara? Sounded like you were saying Sahara. Sahara being green. And you'll see these articles. So the point is that, okay, so when you say it'd be completely different, well, if the Sphinx is, say, at least double the age, and I'm sure it's older, well, that's me. It was when it was green

because let's not forget Egypt is in the Sahara desert. Right. So I, when I see dates like 5,000 years and they do say some of these estimates that the, the entire Sahara went from green to desert and possibly within 100 years. So, and this is around 5,000 years ago that it went over the shift. Yes. And I'm like, that is so close, Joe, to these dates of the Giza pyramids that makes me think that because of cataclysm and, let's say, real climate change on a level that we don't even wrap our minds around. I mean, think about it. North Africa or the Sahara is much larger than the contiguous or the 50 states, the United States.

So it's like, you know, it's such a huge area. And to think that something could have changed so dramatically and what would have been erased with it, you know, if you find I was just looking for an article just to show viewers. Like I know there's live science as a number and the Smithsonian and National Geographic. And I was just. Yeah. So this is. There you go. Life Science has a number, and the Smithsonian, and National Geographic. Oh, I was just – yeah, so this is – there you go. I was trying to find visuals. Oh, right on. There's not a ton. So the Sahara was green at somewhere around 5,000 years ago,

which is roughly around the same time as the proposed construction date of the Great Pyramid, which is 4,500 years ago, right? Yeah, 4,600. Yeah, right around there. And each one is supposed to, yeah. And carbon dating is a plus or minus of a few hundred years either way, right? So it could have been around that. There's a margin of error. And I'm like, it's not like they have an abundance. I mean, don't quote me here, but they don't have an

overwhelming substantial amount of evidence that they've repeatedly tested those dates on all this organic matter. Have you looked into it? Do you know how much they did test? I thought it was one little thing. If I remember, I thought it was a little piece of wood or whatever it was. It's like, aha, aha, here it is. Let's Google that.

Yeah. Let's find out what did they test. Oh, yeah, I was getting into that. Yeah, what did they test to date the construction of the pyramids? I started finding something about a piece of a boat I think they thought they'd found. Well, you know, it's just amazing. It really is amazing, and it's hard for us to imagine. I think it's hard for us to imagine 1,000 years.

I think we kind of get it. Oh, 1,000 is 1,000 hundreds. I think we kind of get it, but I think it's one of those things that gets lost in the mind of how actually how long that is in terms of like, if you are alive for a thousand years, like fucking what a dreary amount of time that is. And then you think of 4,500 years ago or whatever it was when they were actually building that thing. And maybe it's much, much longer. I mean, maybe, maybe you're right and maybe the construction maybe rather though the measurement is of a very small piece of material

and maybe they don't have the evidence that could show what it really was interview on nova on pbs and i don't know the exact date of this interview but this is where he talks about okay right here it says uh when it comes to carbon dating do you need organic material and larry says right date of this interview, but this is where he talks about. Okay, right here. It says, when it comes to carbon dating, do you need organic material? And Lehrer says, right. There has been radiocarbon dating or carbon-14 dating done in Egypt, obviously before we did our studies. And it's been done on some material from Giza, for example, the great boat that was found just south of the Great Pyramid, which I think belongs to Khufu, and that was radiocarbon dated coming in at about 2600 BC. See, this is what I mean.

That doesn't prove jack shit for the age of the Great Pyramid being built. So let's keep going because it says, Nova says, but how do you carbon date the pyramids themselves? And they're made out of stone and inorganic material. And Lerner says, we had the idea some years back to radiocarbon date the pyramids directly. As you say, you need organic material in order to do carbon-14 dating because all living creatures, every living thing takes in carbon-14 during its lifetime and stops taking in carbon-14 when it dies. And then the carbon-14 starts breaking down at a regular rate. So in effect, you're counting the carbon-14 in an organic specimen.

And by virtue of the rate of the disintegration of the carbon-14 atoms and the amount of carbon-14 in a sample, you can show how old it is. So how do you date the pyramids? Because they're made out of stone and mortar. Well, in the 1980s, when I was crawling around on the pyramids, as I used to do and I still do, I noticed that contrary to what many guides tell people, even the stones of the Great Pyramid of Khufu are put together with great quantities of mortar. We're looking, you see, at the core. A pyramid is basically, most basically, two separate constructions. It's an outer shell of very fine polished limestone with great accuracy in its joints, but most of that's missing. And the other construction

is in the inner core, which is filled in this shell. Since most of the outer casing is missing, what you see now is the step-like structure of the core. The core was made with a substantial slap factor, as my friend who's a mechanic likes to say about certain automobiles. That is, they didn't join the stones very accurately. You see the great spaces between the stones, and you can actually see where the men were up there, and they didn't, you know, they may have like four or five, even six inches between two stones. And they jammed down pebbles and cobbles and some broken stones and slopped big quantities of gypsum mortar in there.

I noticed that in the interstices, how do you say that? That's a weird word. Interstices? Interstices? Yeah, I don't know. how do you say that? That's a weird word. Interstices? Interstices? Yeah, I don't know. Between the stones and this mortar was embedded organic

material like charcoal, probably from the fire they used to heat the gypsum in order to make the mortar. You have to heat raw gypsum or dehydrate it and then you rehydrate it in order to make the mortar like with modern cement. So it occurred to me that we could take the small samples, we could radiocarbon

date them, not with conventional radiocarbon dating. But recently there's been a development in carbon-14 dating where they use atomic accelerators to count the disintegration rate of the carbon-14 atoms, atom by atom. So you can date extraordinarily small samples. So we set up a program to do that. extraordinarily small samples. So we set up a program to do that and it involved us climbing all over the old kingdom pyramids, including the ones at Giza, taking as much in the way of organic samples as we could. We weren't damaging the pyramids because there's tiny flecks. It's a very strange experience to be crawling over a monument as big as Khufu's looking for a bit of charcoal that might be as big as a fingernail on your small finger. We noted not only the samples of charcoal, sometimes there was reed. And now and then in some

of the pyramids, we found little bits of wood. But we saw in many places, even on the giant pyramids of Giza, the first pyramids and the second pyramid and the third one, fragments of tools, bits of pottery that are clearly characteristic of the old kingdom. And it occurred to us, you know, that these are not just objects. These, the pyramids themselves, were archaeological sites during the time they were being built. If it took 20 years to build them, how the fuck did they build that in 20 years? And now begin to think that Khufu may have reigned during double the length of time that we traditionally assigned them. People were building the Great Pyramid over three decades.

It was an occupied site as long as some campsites that hunters and gatherers occupied that archaeologists dig out in the desert. Okay, we're getting really long on this. Yeah. What is your impression right now when you're reading this? Well, I'm thinking they're basing this on what was in the cracks of these pyramids that they could find. It doesn't necessarily mean that that's how it was initially built. Right. It could really mean, first of all, the reason why there is these great gaps and that they could see these great gaps in the outer, in the core

is because they stole the structure on the outside of it. The limestone, the smooth polished limestone was stolen. They raided these motherfuckers throughout history. You know, like these people that destroy the stuff in Iraq.

They, the pyramids used to be covered in smooth limestone, but they jacked all that stuff. They stole it, and they used it to build Cairo. It's wild that there's buildings throughout Cairo that are made out of the pyramids. It's crazy. Hey, here's something else worth bringing up, though, Jamie. If you wouldn't mind, if you could find it in the news articles.

This is just a year old where they found – so there was pieces of wood they were taking out of behind a block inside the Great Pyramid. And this thing stayed in some – lost in a England museum for the last more than a century. But they just recently found it and dated that wood, and it's more than 500 years older than the alleged date of that Great Pyramid. So now that doesn't prove that the pyramid is older. And this is assuming that it was indeed, I mean, this is documented. So, all right, so here we go. Yep. Great Pyramid, lost Egyptian artifact found in an Aberdeen cigar box.

So a long lost Egyptian artifact has been found in a cigar box in Aberdeen and is hoped it could shed new light on the Great Pyramid. So a small fragment of the 5,000-year-old wood, which is now in several pieces, is said to be highly significant. So here's something else that's pretty crazy to think about when it comes to dating. What I had read, I don't know if it was this article or another one, but they had a margin of error within closer to 800 years for this wood. So I'm like, wait a second. So you're saying it could be closer to 6,000 years old?

Yeah. They don't even know. And that's okay. But isn't that 800 forward as well? Yeah. So it could be 4,200? Yeah. So it doesn't prove anything. And there's some other explanations I read.

They said, well, maybe because wood was more scarce out there that maybe this wood was already 500 years old when it was used for the construction of the pyramid, which I have doubts on that, Joe. 500-year-old piece of wood being used to construct the pyramid, I don't know about that. But, you know, who knows? All I know is that it could possibly be indicative of that it was older. Maybe. Maybe not. There's a picture with it that shows the outside of the pyramid like you were just talking about. Yeah, see, that's what it used to look like.

And so they fucked all that up when they were stealing the outside stones, so the outside limestone. So who knows what they did in terms of patching it up. Right, and it's worth mentioning that some of the theories, it's believed that maybe there was a large earthquake that originally knocked them all down and then they were looted from there um and this but i don't know you were talking about rome joe i i've never heard you mention the pyramid there have you did you see it when you were there or did you know there was one there because when you're talking about restoration of a pyramid i stumbled across this pyramid in rome that they restored within the last couple years that didn't look this clean. Try to find it. There's an older picture of it. Leave it alone,

you fucking apes. I know. People will say, like, we need to preserve it and rebuild it to preserve it. I'm like, no, show me as it is. Yeah, why would they preserve that? I think, you know what it is, I think some people just want to put their hands on stuff, Joe. Yeah, they definitely do. We're gonna clean it. Wow. Well, it looked, it actually

looked nice. It looked kind of dirty. Oh, they just cleaned it. Yeah, yeah definitely do. We're going to clean it. Wow. Well, it actually looked kind of dirty. Oh, they just cleaned it. They just cleaned it. But, I mean, leave it dirty, man. Jesus Christ. That dirt is part of the charm. Yeah. It's part of what makes it look fucking amazing.

Yeah. So this pyramid is how old? 2,000 years, it says. Whoa. Pretty interesting. So not only did they raid Egypt, they went home and wanted to build a pyramid themselves. Yeah, a little shitty one. It's way smaller.

It's tiny. Easy to miss. That's why I thought you missed it. I don't think I saw it. I don't believe I saw it. It's fucking beautiful, though. The Great Pyramid at its height was equivalent to a 47-story building today. And I compare that to—so I'm from Phoenix, and the Chase Tower is the tallest building in Arizona.

And it's within a couple feet of the same height, like 481 feet, original height for the Great Pyramid, almost the same as Chase Tower. And so when you're in a skyline in different places throughout the world, look – a 50-story building stands out. And this thing is 755 feet wide at its base. It's a freaking behemoth. five feet wide at its base. It's a freaking behemoth. I used to have a bit about the construction of the pyramids, and it was basically that what happened was the dumb people outfucked the smart people. And that's why the people that were left behind had no idea how it was built, and they just

said, oh, we built this. Yep. But one of the things that I pointed out, I'm pretty sure my math is wonky, but it's close, that the Great Pyramid of Giza has 2,300,000 stones. The precision cut, again, some of them like the King's Chamber ones from 500 miles away. If you cut in place 10 stones a day, it would take you 664 years to make that pyramid. And they think this guy made it in 20 years. Yeah. And they would have to do something,

because estimates vary, because it depends how many hours a day they're working, but it's literally one stone. You'd have to do one stone approximately every four minutes to make that happen. And so did you hear what they just said in that prior article where like Khufu, maybe his reign was double what we thought.

So they're- 40 year reign. They don't even know. And it validates the point I'm making, which is that because of all the lists lost history since then, like how they don't, what's that based off of? And it's okay to not know something, but the reality is that they just don't know. So much guesswork. It's so fascinating. It's fun. That's why I like these topics. I do. I love these topics. But I really love is that there was this one place that was so much more advanced than everywhere else.

This one part of Africa where civilization had reached this incredible level, like their construction methods, the sophistication in as far as the alignment to constellations. I mean, and some of it is, it's speculative, you know, when they talk about like the equinoxes and, you know, Graham Hancock points to where the Sphinx is facing the constellation Leo, that that wasn't, it was like 10,500 BC that that was happening, that they think that the Sphinx was facing the constellation Leo. Well, this procession of the equinoxes, which is a wobble of the Earth, that is a, I think it's a 25,000 year wobble.

Yeah, closer to, it's like 25,920 year, I call it the great year. Okay, great. Thank you. 25,920 years. I call it the great year. Okay, great. Thank you. So this wobble, if you take that to when the Sphinx would be looking at Leo previously, now you're talking about 35,000 years ago. Which is wild.

Which is the mindfuck of mindfucks. Like, if that is the, like, if you look at the distinct fissures that if they really were if robert chalk is correct and these geologists are correct and that really is the result of thousands and thousands of years of water erosion like okay how many thousand is it five is it 10 is it 20 are you are you looking at 25 000 years years of water erosion? Is that a 35,000-year-old structure? Is it possible? And people will scoff at this, but we were scoffing at 15,000 years ago just a little while ago, just a few decades ago, until Gobekli Tepe came around and you have clear, definitive evidence of something that's at least 12,000 years old. definitive evidence of something that's at least 12,000 years old. That was nonsense just a few years ago. In the 90s, it was nonsense.

But now we know 100%. That's a fact. What the fuck were they doing 20 years prior to that? Right. And if this is really 35,000 years old or whatever it is, my God, how long has civilization been around? And how many times has it been reset? When you talk about this Younger Dryas impact theory, especially when you talk about it with Randall Carlson, it opens up a whole world of speculation because Randall Carlson's evidence

is spectacular, well-researched, and he has a deep, deep knowledge of both the timeline and the erosion to the landscape that occurred in spectacular fashion because of massive floods. When then you look at these legends like Noah's Ark or the Epic of Gilgamesh, and you hear about these stories of floods and of cataclysms. It's something that is, it's a core part of almost every ancient civilization's lore. When they talk about the history of their culture, they talk about these cataclysmic events that reshaped the society and that people emerged from the darkness and restarted the world, you know, like Noah and his children. Do you want to hear something that's crazy that goes along with that?

Yes, I do, Jimmy. You bet. All right. So the CIA, this is decades ago, in the 50s discussed something called the Adam and Eve story. So anyone can go to CIA.gov, go to Freedom of Information Library, and you can look up what's called the Adam and Eve story written by a doctor named Chan Thomas back in the 50s. And this details the destruction, repeated destruction of mankind, and it even has

the year 11,500 in it. And it's worth, or 11,550, and keep in mind, this was written more than 50 years ago. So it coincides with the 11,600 timeframe decades before we were talking about a Younger Dryas possibility. What's this based on? So, well, that's a great, that's part of the mystery, Joe. Now, this, and let me also say this. What's, they declassified, this is like a handful of years ago. They declassified that – so we have no understanding though. What's not declassified is why the CIA was discussing this book in some top secret meeting, although every meeting in the CIA is technically top secret. Everything they do is top secret.

But so it details that destructions – so it basically says that there's a micro nova that goes off in the earth routinely. And what it does is – A micro nova that goes off in the earth routinely. And what it does is essentially that there's a, a quite literal fusion explosion that the earth essentially, it's like a hiccup and it causes continental displacement. It causes rapid movement of continents as well as continental size, tidal waves that just wash everything away. And that's,

that says why there's no evidence for any of it left over because it quite literally wiped a vast portion of the earth clean. So this was a theory from 50 years ago that the CIA was putting around? Yes. Was there any scientific backing of this? Yes. All right. So you know what they cite in there is those woolly mammoths that were died off in mass quantities and still had food in their mouths?

Yeah. Joe, that's in there. I remember hearing, I don't know if it was you or- That's Randall Carlson. Yes. So this book was written in, I think, 1957. It was classified in 1963. Not the book.

Well, let me rephrase. The book was not classified. The CIA discussed it and that was classified. So this book was pretty much little known. But if you literally Google or you can bring it, well, it used to come up at the top of Google, but now you got to go to DuckDuckGo, or you can go to CIA.gov. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, it's unfortunate. When you see how Google curates information,

when you go to Google things. Type Bright Insight, Jimmy no longer comes up on there, and they see a few pages in. I'm offended. Why do you think they're hiding you? Are they scared? You're going to tell the truth. It's probably related for, when I'm looking. Why do you think they're hiding you? Are they scared that you're going to tell the truth? It's probably related. What's that? For when I'm looking up this book, there's also a claim that Jesus was a genius from India and was abducted by two angels.

No, I don't know if that's written in there, but what it does say is that Jesus, Osiris, and Vishnu were all the same person. It says that these stories passed down. Yeah, no, no. Will you? Another section of the book, Thomas also claims that Jesus was these stories passed down. Yeah, no, no. Will you? I just was looking. Another section of the book, Thomas also claims that Jesus was abducted by aliens.

That's not in there. That's not in there. That's not. No, I've read the entire document. Jamie, will you just go? Hold on. Where is this coming from? Is this a Daily Star?

Yeah, Daily Star. Disinformation. Listen. It's not true. No, listen. I'm mad at you, Jamie. You know I love you. I know.

The section of the book, Thomas also claims that Jesus was abducted by aliens on Easter Sunday. Oh, God, that's so silly. It says the two angels came to Earth in their space vehicle to take care of the aftermath of Jesus' crucifixion. And then it goes on to say, this sounds like someone was just having fun releasing a Daily Star. Daily Star is, correct me if I'm wrong, it's like a tabloid. Yeah, tabloid, yeah. It's like the Enquirer. It could be me running that site. It's Bob's website. It's no different. They just call it the Daily Star. I could be like the Daily whatever and then just make my own thing. But if you go to the document itself, that's not in there. I read the damn thing. I made a whole

video on it. It's pretty interesting, Joe, because it lists a lot of other cataclysmic events and it's saying that this is the reason why we don't have understanding. And it even cites the Great Pyramid of Giza as being, quote, an enigma. I like that because it is an enigma. Let's pause right here because I've got to pee. Okay, let's do it. Let's talk about this when we come back. We'll talk about this Adam and Eve thing.

Adam and Eve story. Right on. Classified by the CIA. We'll be right back. Thank you. And we're back. I had to pee. I was holding it as much as I can, but I drank a lot of water today, unfortunately. I was holding it as well. So that was lovely. Yeah. It's a weird thing. You're trying to concentrate, but you also have to pee.

It's not good. Sometimes it's better to just pee. So this CIA thing about Adam and Eve, what was the purpose behind this? Like, why did they publish this? So just to clarify, they did not publish it. Some doctor named Chan Thomas, who's a mysterious figure in itself, because it's hard to find a lot of info, though keep in mind this is back in the 50s, so it's hard to find info. So he published it? He published it. And then for unknown reasons, the Central Intelligence Agency discussed it in a meeting and classified that meeting. Although, let me just clarify, everything the CIA does is technically classified. A lunch meeting, nothing's available to the public. But then it was kept secret for decades up until, I want to say,

it was 2012 or 2013, it was desanitized and released. And so the big question for me is, why were they discussing it? And the fact that there's certain details in it that are corroborated by scientific evidence that we've gathered in the last couple decades, say, for example, that 11,600 year younger Dryas. It's highly fascinating. What's that about? I'd like to know why they were chatting about it. I'd like to know what their conclusions were. None of that's available to the public. They declassified in a million different directions. And you can find that on CIA.gov. I made a video about this earlier this year. It was like a follow-up to the Rishon Atlantis theory, where I gave a more compelling argument. And what was so interesting about this, Joe, is that there's a huge part of it, a page and a half that's redacted. And it's the entire context. It says, although the information from the scientific study will be available to worldwide scientific community. Totally blank after that.

I could show you a screenshot of it. Did they have a premise like why they were going and studying it? They were looking for geomagnetic or excuse me, geoelectric or geo anomalies. And so it was one of like 12 or 13 sites or 15 that were from around the world they studied. So it wasn't just that one. But Joe, what's so interesting about it is that Atlantis was said to have had special properties.

Like it had springs of water that were warm and cold. And it was said to be special according to the Poseidon who had created it. But what's interesting about this, Joe, is not just the fact they studied it, but the fact that there's the entire context of it is still classified to this day. Now, let me be clear,

nothing in that document says anything about ancient history, Atlantis, nothing like that. But this site was studied. We already discussed how unusual it is. Neither one of us had heard about it till recently. And if there's one comment that stuck out that had thousands of comments on these videos, like how have I never heard of this wrist shot structure before? And if you were to, Jamie, if you were to bring up my video for May of this year and there's a certain part of it that shows a screenshot of this part that's redacted, I want you to see this, Joe, because it's the entire context of the scientific study itself is classified today. And this is from what year? I want to say 1963. I got to double check. I sometimes mix up my dates, but it was, yeah.

Maybe it says, by the way, we killed Kennedy. Probably. It's in there. I'm looking on the CIA's website as I was trying to find your thing, but this is kind of interesting. I feel like it does talk about how it's declassified in part, but a sanitized copy has been approved for release. Yeah. So that's the Adam and Eve story, just to clarify. He's referring to Adam and Eve story, not

the Rishad structure. Two different things. This is on the website for the CIA. Sanitized copy. Yeah. Do you want to click on that PDF? I was already trying. It's hard to look through. Right, but I meant just so you see what it looks like just for... How weird is that that the CIA had a... What?

Whoa, back up. What the fuck is that? Cross section of earth? Yeah. They're saying that the internal... The whole premise of this thing is that the earth, that something happens inside the earth routinely. Periodically, right?

Yep. They say it's where the legends of Noah's flood comes from. Oh, so this was what they were throwing around before the Younger Dryas impact theory. Yes. Now, scroll down. Skip these pages real quick because these are unrelated. Yeah. All right.

Right there. Go up a couple. Yeah. All right. Right there. Like Noah's flood, like Adam and Eve's story, this too will come to pass. Now, this is just like the opening to it. So they thought that this was going to happen again.

Well. Look at this. In California, the mountains shake like ferns in a breeze. The mighty Pacific rears back and piles up into a mountain of water more than two miles high, then starts its race eastward. With the force of a thousand armies, the wind attacks, ripping, shredding everything, and its supersonic bombardment. The unbelievable mountain of the Pacific seawater

follows the wind eastward, burying Los Angeles and San Francisco as if they were but grains of sand. So this is written as a story, and something else worth mentioning is that it says that that happened because of this event, the earth essentially stands still for a moment,

which causes the wind and the forces of momentum to continue to go at a at a weird theory it's crazy and i'm not saying it's necessarily true no but what's interesting is that it's talking about destruction of mankind and it's very specifically says this is the reason why we don't know our ancient past and And I find it interesting that the Central Intelligence Agency was discussing this. That's fun. Well, they probably had some sort of inkling that some of the stories from ancient civilizations about cataclysmics, cataclysmic disasters probably had some merit to them. Right. And they were probably trying to protect us or at least protect the president, put them in a bunker. Yeah. You want to hear something fun I'm going to do? I was going to keep it to myself, but I keep pushing it off. So maybe the Internet will help us do it. I want to find. Well, I've already looked into it briefly.

And it was really complicated because it's hard. It doesn't fall into any of their categories. But I want to do a Freedom of Information Act request on the Great Pyramid of Giza. I want to see if the CIA has ever or any of the intelligence communities have ever even just looked into it. Because to me, I'm like, if that thing was more than just a tomb for the pharaohs, it seems to me that the true powers that be that have unlimited resources would study it and have a theory of it in themselves. And so I want to see if they've ever looked into it at all. Isn't that a good idea? Yeah, it's a good idea. Internet, let's do it.

Because I went on to submit it, and it's like there's a bunch of categories you could submit and nothing applied. So I'm like, I need to talk to somebody to figure out. Because Freedom of Information Act requests are free. Anyone can do it. We have a right to do it. The only thing you pay for is if you want them to print out pages, and it's like that's cheap as hell. It's like it's not even a factor. So this – if you have a story about this idea that the Earth has some sort of a nova effect and things explode and the Earth stands.

If they were thinking that, they had to. And if they were looking at the Richard structure, they had to be looking at the pyramids, too. They had to try to figure out what the hell is going on there. I would think so. Put it this way. If I was running the CIA, I'd be looking at all kinds of crazy stuff, too. And that would be one of them. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. I'm really interested in this whole Adam and Eve

thing. So they think that this happened and that civilization got brought down to its knees and brought to a small amount of people, but they were kind of right. Right. Like if you think about, uh, super volcanoes, like those do happen. And if they really did think that that was some sort of a volcano, that the Richard structure was some sort of a volcano that had erupted and cooled and erupted and cooled, and if there was some sort of volcanic activity that was still going on under the surface, that would account for the idea that Atlantis was saying there was water that was cool and also water that was hot in the same area, much like you get in Yellowstone, right? Like you get these cool lakes, but then you also get like Old Faithful, these geysers of hot water and these, I mean, there's these ponds that people

have fallen into and never seen again because they get melted. Yeah. I think it makes it even more compelling. Now, some people will say like, well, it's a natural formation, so it can't be because as Plato describes it is that it was created by Poseidon. I'm like, Poseidon can mean earth. It was created by God or just universe. So to me, I'm like, in the fact of its very size that Atlantis was described at, I'm like, it would make far more sense that it was a geological formation because that's what we do today. We build on geological formations all the time. Have you been to Yellowstone? I actually haven't, which is a real shame because I lived in Boise, Idaho.

Pretty close, yeah. Yeah. It's wild. It's really interesting. First of all, it's kind of bizarre because the animals are, they're like, they have no fear of people because they've been sort of habitualized. So like you go by, especially because they've released wolves into Yellowstone years ago. So the elk have decided it's a smart thing to go around where the people are all the time. So if you go near like this visitor center, there's like, there's a photo that I took.

I think I put it on Instagram. It's me taking a selfie next to a soda machine and behind me is a whole herd of elk just hanging hanging out like huh um I might not have put it on this I'm not I'm not sure if I did but the these elk are like basically like town deer you ever been around town like uh Colorado if you go to like evergreen Colorado there's a mule deer that just wander through the town yeah and some ofgreen, Colorado, there's a mule deer that just wandered through the town. And some of them are fucking these massive like trophy mule deer. Like if you were in the mountains and you were hunting, that would be a deer that you would be like stoked, a deer of a lifetime. And then they're just wandering down main street in Evergreen because they know that

people are not dangerous there. That people basically go, oh, look at you. And they give them food and they take pictures of them. So all the animals in Yellowstone have been habitualized. So when you walk around there, I mean, that's why people always get launched in the air by buffalo, these fucking knuckleheads. They think that it's okay to get close

to the bisons and they fucking... I love those videos, Joe. These people get knocked... I don't want to see anyone get killed, but these people are so dumb. It's always a recurring theme where they're so unathletic. I'm like, you can even run away from this thing. You're done. Nobody can. You can't. You ain't running away from a bison. But there's the saddest one. This little nine-year-old girl got launched into the air. I'm like, oh my God. Like you let your nine-year-old get that close to a bison, you fucking idiot. But my point is the rest of Yellowstone is absolutely fascinating because there's this weird smell that comes out of all these geological formations because they're basically, what you're looking at is a caldera volcano.

It's an immense volcano that's happening right now. It's underneath the surface. There's all this volcanic activity. And every 6,000 to 800,000 years, it erupts. And when it does, it's a continent killer. I mean, if it does erupt, we are fucked. This whole country is fucked. Everybody in this country is essentially dead.

If you want to live, you better get to New Zealand and pronto because everybody living here is a goner. It blows. And when it blows, it kills everything. And it happens every six to 800,000 years. And the last time it happened was 600,000 years ago. And even if you survive the initial eruption, the ash that's going to cover thousands of miles away, feet deep, like that's going to, that your car, everything you're going to be,

it's going to destroy the water. It's going to turn into acid. It's going to, even if you survive the initial eruption, you're still fucked. Yeah. And then you live in nuclear winter because the sky is going to be covered in ash

and no sunlight will get through. No food will grow. Well, they believe that, oh God, I keep forgetting where this happened. But somewhere around 70,000 years ago, they believe that civilization got brought down to just a few thousand people by a super volcano that happened in some island somewhere. Toba. The Toba super eruption of 72,000 years, I believe.

Is that what it was? T-O-B-A. What's that near? What's that near that we'll call it today? I thought that was- Some islands. Isn't that east of Africa, am I thinking? Or is it Polynesia down there in the-

I want to say it's down there. Yeah. It's South Pacific? I don't remember. I'm trying to remember. It's at the tip of my tongue, but I can't say it's down there. Yeah. Yeah. It's South Pacific? I don't remember. I'm trying to remember. It's at the tip of my tongue, but I can't recall it. But wherever this was, they're really pretty sure, and I think this is based on genetic evidence, that at some point in time, civilization got brought down to like 6,000 or 7,000 people.

I've heard this. Which is wild. It is. And it's pretty scary. And you know, the thing is, Joe, so here we are talking about cataclysmic events and it's like,

so like there's plenty of people that are into this topic. It's fun. But a vast majority of people walking down, don't even want to hear about it. I think it scares people, even like the scientific community, because. Fiji Islands?

Indonesia. Indonesia. There it is. Yeah. Lake Toba. Yeah. So this super volcano, massive volcanic crater, lake amid tranquil mountain scenery, nearby amenities like restaurants.

They have restaurants. Is there any all-inclusives there? Bring it up, Jeremy. Yeah, you can go there and stay in a nice resort and get a massage. And it's right where civilization almost died. And it almost killed off everybody. I mean, 7,000 people is not much, especially when you think about how many predators were around.

That could have been the end of us, especially 60,000, 70,000 years ago when you're basically hunting with these things, like this arrowhead. How old is that? Is that a legit? Yeah, it's legit. It's a legit one from Texas. I don't know how old it is.

I would imagine it's hundreds of years old. May I touch it just to feel it? Yeah, yeah, it's real. It's a legit one from Texas. I don't know how old it is. I would imagine it's hundreds of years old. May I touch it just to feel it? Yeah, it's real. It's a real arrowhead. That was on a real arrow that hopefully somebody got their dinner with. That's beautiful. Yeah, it's pretty wild. I mean, really elegantly constructed.

I'm doing a little bit of research on that book, The Adam and Eve Story. Apparently a lot of people do have a copy of it. Yes. Let me clarify. It was not, the book itself was not classified. Correct. Yes. And they do have the mystic version of it.

And I don't know that I can see that they found anything strange. Oh, in the redacted pages? Correct. They have the redacted pages of it? Yeah. Actually, that reminds me. One of my friends, Johanna James, has a YouTube channel. She explores these topics,

and I believe she had made a video update sharing those details. And it's all interesting, but the most interesting of everything was in that book anyway. There was nothing that stood out to me from the missing stuff, actually, that was to me, suggested something dirty. But it's funny that the CIA redacted.

They probably just figured, you know, people are dopes. Let's keep this from them. Like whatever it was. What did they think was interesting about the redacted stuff? I just even like they've – I'm trying to find – I'm digging through like comments of people that have been looking into this from a couple years ago. They said this could have just been like a dump

and they could have scanned everything in the CIA because they were talking about the handwritten notes on certain pages and like, why does this have a handwritten note on it? Because someone just wrote it. The guy who owned the book wrote down his grocery list or something like that. Lots of weird reasons,

but that doesn't really mean a whole lot. It's just that they're trying to discover. How much time did you spend when you were in Egypt? So I've been there twice in the last year. I'm very blessed to say that. So I was there for 17 nights from November, December of 2020, which was awesome traveling at that period of time during the midst of all the lockdowns and everything else. And then I was there for just under a week in September, October this year. Oh, pretty recent. Yeah. And then I went to Peru in August with a lovely man, Brian Forster, who's been giving tours. He's been to, because he lives in Peru,

he's been to Machu Picchu more than 70 times. The Egyptian tours, did you go with a guide? Did you, yeah. That Yusuf Awian, so it's called the Kemet School, and his, well, I should say ex-wife, runs it. And so it's all based on the teaching of his father, which is, again, Akeem Abdel Awian, who was in the Pyramid Code. So it's based on the tribal knowledge that was passed down. And by the way, it's worth mentioning that he had, Akeem, when he was a kid, he had went in a tunnel from Saqqara, Egypt to Giza, which is eight miles as the bird flies. That's not supposed to exist. There's no evidence of this, but he did it. I mean, I have no reason to doubt him. But it's already been known that there's a labyrinth within Egypt, that there's subterranean-

What do you mean that's not supposed to exist? Did he document it? Does he have photos of this thing? No, we're talking to a poor Egyptian kid that did it in like the 1950s or something like that. And we don't know where this is? No. However, there's, so this is the weird thing about Giza, my friend, is that there's something called the Osiris shaft, which is located directly under the causeway between the Sphinx and the second pyramid. And it goes about 100 feet underground. It's carved out of the limestone bedrock. It's the creepiest place I've ever been in my life.

It's disturbing. Why is it disturbing? I don't know, Joe. Well, there's human bones in there. I stepped on it. I didn't even know. What? Yeah. How old are the bones?

Well, I'm not sure, but someone had told me, like, not super ancient, like something like people in more modern times, maybe 100 years ago, fell down there or something. And I got to go in there. So that's the shaft right there? No, that's not it. Oh, no, yes, that's the entrance into it, and then you go straight down from there. God, look at the line of people. Yeah, you got to pay $2,000 to get in there. They were fucking floating around.

It's everywhere. Potato chip bags. Really? So that's the first shaft. So it's three different shafts and you go down and here's where it gets, this is the crazy part.

When you get to the third level, which is completely dark and freaky, there was a side tunnel. Zahi Awas himself, there was a documentary, it was either 96 or 99. He went down there with, like it was a Fox documentary

and he showed, he's standing in front of this tunnel that went sideways. And he says, it's yet to be explored. And we, I don't know what's down there. And I'm thinking, the hell you don't know what's down there. Like, you never walked down there. But, Joe, they've since sealed it up. It's like cinder blocks.

They sealed it up. What? Yes. So there is, so. What? Swear to God. Why would they seal it up? That's a really, I, hey, Joe, I really want to know the answer to that question.

That doesn't make any sense. All right. So here – this ties into like the same thing about this eight-mile tunnel connecting from Saqqara to Giza, which is – couldn't tell you where that is today. But we already know that they were doing shit underground. When you look at the Osiris shaft and you can look at Zahi Hawass. By the way, let me just say, I love you, Zahi. I would love to work with the Egyptian Antiquities and go do some tours and bring light and bring tourism to Egypt. Let me be clear, because like this is a sensitive topic.

These people, you know what I mean? I'm not dissing Egypt in their knowledge or the people running the show. I would love to work with them. I have my own little ideas and it's all fun. But. But. But like it's the same thing. Like they excavated the Sphinx and there was always said to be tunnels under there and, and they're there. I made, this is my most recent video. And there was no pictures ever released to the public. And some dudes snuck down in there and

took some photos. You can't see much, but what you know is that there are things that have gone underground in egypt that for whatever reason joe is just off limits to the public completely off is there any speculation as to why it would be off limits all it's all conspiratorial like i'll wait okay only my best guess is anyone else's best guesses but but some suggest that the egyptians is one underground cataclysm and that people were doing things underground in the same way that we saw in Cappadocia of Turkey where there's those many underground cities. For example, Derinkuyu, they go like 15 levels underground. Have you heard of this? No. So they went underground during the cataclysm?

This is the idea that like somewhere around 12,000 years ago, like whenever this Younger Jairus impact theory. That's what makes the most sense to me. Now, if you look at Darren Q, you and those underground cities, they claim like modern academics say, oh, they probably built these to defend themselves against invaders. And I'm like, hang on a second.

If you're being invaded, you don't have time. Let me, oh, I forgot to say this. Some of these cities can support 50,000 people. This. What? What is that? See, the fact you haven't even heard of this, Joe, is this is what I'm talking about. So that's just a depiction.

But they went down. The underground city of Turkey. That's only one of them. So they have houses on the surface and they look all normal. But then it's much larger as you go underground. Hundreds of feet. And they were made to hold livestock and everything. And some of them. So there's several of these that they know about, and some of them connect by miles and miles of tunnel, Joe.

Underground, some of them go hundreds of feet, and they go down to underground rivers, and it's carved out of limestone. Underground rivers? Yeah. So how old do they think these things are? Well, if you read about it, they'll say, oh, a couple thousand. That's fucking incredible. Look at this. They say a couple thousand years. They'll say, oh, a couple thousand.

That's fucking incredible. Look at this. They say a couple thousand years. However, something tells me that this was involved in, maybe the ancients knew about the cataclysm of, you know, and that it was coming. And so they prepped because I'm sorry, Joe, I know a little bit about war and you don't,

if someone's invading you, you don't have time to carve out miles and miles of bedrock tunnel. That would take, you know how many years that would take? Look at that. There's many more. There's several of these cities, by the way. Darren Cuyo is just one of the more known ones, and you can do tours of it.

Did you hear about that one guy? There was a guy, God, I want to say it was in Italy, and he had a house, and in the house, he had dug down through the ground and developed this incredible chapel, built this immense structure. And they came to his house, and the authorities essentially said, listen, what are you doing?

Like, we know you're doing something. Let us in, and we're going to arrest you. And he said, all right, I'll show you. It's nothing nefarious. This is what I did. And he built this, he had this incredible art project that he had essentially had a very modest home. And then as you go into this modest home and then you go down through this passageway, he had developed what is essentially this immense, super intricate art project. And by himself. He had done this over the course of decades

and made this incredible place. And it had become something that was like a point of focus for the authorities where they're like, what is this? Does this guy have guns down there? What is he doing? Has he got a bomb? Yeah, meth lab.

See if you can find that. I found a couple. Oh, here's the Italy one from this year. Yeah, I believe it's Italy. I found one in. Oh, here's the Italy one from this year, yeah. Yeah, I believe it's Italy. I found one in California, too. Oh. The California one. I know about the California one. I've seen that one, too. But this,

the Italy one is amazing, because it's really, really beautiful. Here's a video of it, I think. Oh, maybe this is it. So this took him years with modern equipment. Yeah. Is this it? It's just a tunnel. Yeah, I don't think this is it. So this took him years with modern equipment? Yeah. Is this it? It's just a tunnel. Yeah, I don't think this is it.

I don't think it looked like that. It looked really cool. Oh, under my nose. This is not it. Oh, that's a tunnel system under his house that he bought. That was a guy who found a tunnel system under his house. So he had a house and then he's like, what's going on on this floorboard? You want to hear something really fascinating? Sure. So in Egypt, people, they're finding things all the time. People are,

when they're doing like renovations or on their house. So people are digging under their homes in the Cairo area and, and literally finding artifacts. Under their homes. Yes. So listen to this. You want to guess, so there is a black market for antiquities. Now let's just talk mummies alone. And this, you can find mainstream articles on this. How much is a mummy? Well, the, the estimated yearly black market revenue from mummies alone is between estimated two to $6 billion a year. So let's go with 4 billion. People just buying mummies? Yeah. These rich people are probably buying mummies. Because, I mean, who has the money for that?

And let me tell you something else that's real interesting because it kind of shows – first of all, wasn't just a couple years ago the UFC's total valuation was like $4 billion? Yeah. So if they're saying estimated between $2 and $6 billion, let's just go with $4. Right. That's a year. Right. Just mummies. So here's something else.

And I got to be careful because I'm convinced Big Pharma is running the whole earth at this point. I should be. So the Purdue family and the Sackler family, you've heard of them. They were the ones that did the OxyContin. Why don't you look just how much money they've put into Egyptian antiquities and museums around the world, including starting. This is recently, a few months ago. And this goes back years. world, including starting, this is recently, a few months ago, and this goes back years,

but recently they're starting a program at, I forgot what, it may be Purdue University because that's by John Sackler, or Purdue, John Purdue. And anyways, so these people have an incredible interest in Egyptian antiquities, and that doesn't necessarily mean anything, but I find that quite interesting that some of the richest, powerful people on earth are really into this stuff. And then I look at— They probably got, like, some crazy chamber in their fucking Oxycontin-bought houses where they can show you mummies and shit. I mean, come on. Think about these guys drinking their brandy.

Let me go back to my voice. They're drinking. Come down here and look what I purchased for $100 million. This is King Tut's brother, and look at him here. That kind of cheddar? Yeah. Bring your buddies over. Because, dude, I looked at a house in Beverly Hills I never actually looked at it but I looked at it online and you know we're thinking about moving to this one area of Beverly Hills

and they had this house that was for sale and it had a dinosaur in it the house had a dinosaur there was a raptor yeah and you could buy dinosaur. It was a million dollars more than the house and then a million dollars more you could get the dinosaur as well. I'm not going to lie. I think that's pretty cool. It's pretty dope. That doesn't make me feel bad. It's like, it makes me feel bad to own a mummy. That's gross.

I'm not into owning a mummy. It's a human being. I am into owning a fucking dinosaur bone. Joe, you got like a man cave? What's your situation like here? No. This is my man cave. Okay. My house is a fucking, it's run by chicks.

Joe, what? Okay. My house is run by my wife and my daughter. How are you doing with that? How's that? That's fine. As long as I have this. As long as I have this studio and place where I can hang out and I just bought a comedy club.

Oh, congrats. So this is all my stuff. So I can do whatever. And I just bought a comedy club. Oh, congrats. So this is all my stuff. So I can do whatever, which is a perfect balance, you know, because I, you know, I'm a moron. I like stupid shit. I like UFOs and chimp heads that are made out of symbols. That's wonderful. The one thing this place is missing now is a dinosaur bone. We need to get something in here.

That's what I'm saying, bro. I need a fucking dinosaur. You need something. Internet. Those are so expensive. Yeah. Like that raptor, which was a full raptor. See if you can find it, Jamie.

Beverly Hills Home for Sale with Dinosaur. It was fucking dope because it was like a six-foot tall like velociraptor. I love it. Yeah. It was pretty dope. raptor i love it yeah it's pretty dope and it you know most of those things you only get like part of the skeleton is real and a lot of it's just recreations like they recreate femurs and stuff that's missing yeah that's it that's the house sees a 38 million dollars beverly hills mansion with 150 million year old dinosaur fossil look at at that. That's what I need.

Look at that thing. Imagine that motherfucker chasing you. I'm like, fuck. I'm going to get eaten by a goddamn lizard. I'd like to bring people over to show them that. Fuck. Seduce people. Come back to my place.

I'm going to show you my dinosaur. I would probably spend most of my day getting high, staring at that. It would be a problem I would lose a lot of my productivity because I would be spending so much time staring at that fucking dinosaur I'd want to wear one of its teeth around like a necklace no no no you gotta keep it in the head

well that's why you buy a second head that's like a magic key you gotta make where you put the tooth in and it opens up the vault right right the thing slides aside And there's an underground tunnel I found the temple speaking of that Oh you did? Let me check it out This place

Yes yes this is it So this guy yeah temples of the Humankind this is exactly it This guy made this man in his fucking house So his house on the outside, again, a very humble, modest home. But then you go inside of it. It is absolutely spectacular. Beautiful artwork.

And again, all done by this guy. I mean, I don't know how many people he had help him. It shows the house right there. Yeah. So that's the house. So, so that's the house. So look at that, normal house. You look at that house, you're like, oh, it's, you know, normal guy, normal house.

Yeah, you would have no idea. But this guy built it, it took him forever. Okay, so over 15 years, and that's of course using modern equipment. So that's something that's worth mentioning, because when you look at these underground cities that are absolutely massive, Joe, that can support, some of them are 20,000 people, 30,000 people, 50,000 people. Hold on. Scroll up, Jamie, for where it says the 15-year part. It says, over the next 15 years, more volunteers flocked around the globe to join the growing community of temple builders working in four-hour shifts and funding their projects

with small businesses to serve the local community. But since no planning permission had been granted by the government, what is that word? Damanhurians? Had to keep the growing temples under wraps. That's what it is. It was important to build them in secret or we would never be able to build them. Italian law does not foresee this sort of underground building. So in 1991, they had completed most of the nine chambers, murals, stained glass windows, ornate statues, vibrant mosaics, and secret doors spread throughout the secret excavation. So look at what it looks like on the surface

versus what it looks like underneath. Fucking incredible, man. I thought this guy did it by himself, but apparently he had a lot of people working on it. But, God, it's beautiful. It's spectacular. And when you go down, like, deeper and deeper, like, it is absolutely amazing.

And I think it's available to the public now. I think you could, like, go on a tour of it, which is really wild. Imagine, like Imagine going through that house. You could pull up. Are we in the right place? Don't let Epstein buy that. Oh, 150 volunteers

over a 15-year period less than 40 years ago directed by one now 57-year-old former insurance broker. That's a guy like you were working at Target, right? This guy really wanted to do this. He experienced visions at age 10 of doing this.

He dedicated his life to building the temples after he experienced visions at age 10. Wow. In his visions, the temples were home to a highly evolved community who enjoyed an idyllic existence in which all people work towards a common good. Look how beautiful that work is. Like the artwork's incredible. That's spectacular.

God, it's so gorgeous. You know, to people listening, I just want to point out like, you know, you have the ability to look into things yourselves and think for yourselves. And when you look at these Darren Cuyo caves and there's, I'm telling you, like 50,000 people, huge, hundreds and hundreds of rooms. Spell that out so people are just listening. Well, I might have D-A-R-I-N, yeah. And there's a few. It's in the Cappadocia region of Turkey. And just type in Turkey underground cities, and you'll see that there's several known. And again, so if this took a whole team a decade and a half to do, I want people to go and look at these caves and

think for yourself if you believe that it's feasible to consider that these were done to thwart invaders. So in short notice, and I'm like, and how big in advance they actually are, I'm like, the evidence is quite literally in front of us that humans were doing something special a long time ago. And do the estimate is just that this was done thousands of years ago, right? All right. So they say 3,000-year-old city, but I'm like, you can't prove that. Like you could prove that if they found some stuff in this 3,000, but they don't necessarily know that it's not older. And the reason I say that, Joe, is because my gut instinct on this, throw it in the trash if you want, but that was to survive a cataclysm of some kind. It's too big. It was meant to have farm animals and sustain them. There was

air shafts. We're talking 15, 18 levels down, Joe. And I'm like, you know, something tells me that was an arc of some kind. It was a shit-hit-the-fan cave. Well, they have those bunkers today that these crazy preppers use.

My buddy Duncan and I did this television show a few years back, and Duncan went to visit these super preppers that had used these, I think they were like, I want to say it was like some sort of a military base this guy had purchased. God, I wish I could remember what the fuck it was. Was it a silo? They had these, something along those lines,

but it had these like enormous garage doors where you pull the cars in. They had like trailers where you pull your trailer in. And then inside, they were essentially planning on having a sustainable environment

that could keep people alive in case of like a nuclear disaster or some sort of bio-weapon or some shit. That's smart. I think people... Doomsday bunkers. Look at these fucking things. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but here's my

position. I don't want to live. If the fucking world gets nuked and there's just cannibals out there, I hope the nuke hits me right in the face. You know what I think is more likely to happen? What? So, the last this is outdated info, but this is before Trump had taken office, and at

that time, the last five Department of Homeland Security heads, all five of them said that the greatest threat facing the United States is a grid down scenario because there's a few things that could do it. It could be a hacking. It could be a solar event. And that would be absolutely catastrophic because if the power goes down for months on end, and you got to keep in mind that the United States is connected by only three grids, East, West, and Texas. And so if it went down, they don't just have these, what do you call them? The electrical, whatever the hell you call them, but they're huge and they're made to order. They're not just lined up in shelves, what do they call it? The transformers. So if there was something like that that happened, it's potential or possible that you could have a grid down scenario in some areas or the whole thing for months on end.

And you have to think about that. If that happens, the city water pumps will go down once the generators run out of their fuel. Fuel tanks won't work. Like we're talking that would be so apocalyptic in itself. And if that was to happen, it would be the haves and the have nots, those who have guns and those that don't or those that prepped, those that didn't. And that's possible. And I wouldn't even be surprised. I want to get too crazy. But like, I mean, in our lifetimes, it's whether it's a solar flare, like another Carrington event, or some terrible entity that wants to bring our shit down, and if they were successful, it would, in a short period of time, days. Like, there's this saying that humanity or society is only three – or excuse me, nine meals away from chaos, which means, you know, three days.

And so if you have a situation where the grid went down for even a couple of weeks, Joe, it would be, it would be shit. Especially if you look- Oh yeah, for sure. Well, Texas almost went down last winter. Yeah. Came real close. Came within four minutes. It was a wake up call. Yeah, it was for a lot of folks. And I think that solar flares are a huge threat and not just a huge threat to the grid but huge set to life on earth any kind of

supernova that's anywhere reasonably close to us and we're we're a wrap that's it yeah um hypernovas in particular i watched this documentary where they first started uh observing hypernovas in um the cosmos and they thought that it was wars going on with civilizations in space because they were happening so frequently. Like they were observed because, you know, obviously there's hundreds of billions of galaxies. And so they were looking out in these hundreds of billions of galaxies and they were detecting these gamma radiation bursts and they were like, oh my God, they're going to to war they're going to war out there in space and then they realized no these are hypernovas and that these these novas essentially just wipe out entire solar systems and more i heard well i

don't know what the last one was but they had it was described as being bright even during the day you could see it was like essentially a flash that was sustained for i don't know if it was months something like that and you just see in the sky i'm like and they said it even lit up the sky even when there was like a new moon it was dark i'm like that would be so crazy to see that well what's really crazy is it happened millions and millions of years ago and you're just seeing it now it's like a time machine yeah like every star that you see when you go on a crazy clear night and you're looking at the milky way you're looking at the Milky Way, you're looking at things from millions of years ago. That's what's nuts. That's really nuts.

Yeah. That's the one thing. Yeah. I find that just fascinating to think about. Yeah. When they're observing the cosmos, like we were talking about the Big Bang earlier, when they're observing 13 plus billion years ago, they're essentially looking into the past at what happened 13 plus billions of years ago. When they see these like stellar nurseries and they're using like these spectacular telescopes to look deep, deep, deep into space, they're looking at the past. Yeah. So that's like an idea for a time machine is that if there was some way to travel vastly far distances, let's say like a wormhole of some kind. Yeah. And then you stopped and turned around and looked at Earth and say you had the abilities for enhanced magnification of some kind.

Wouldn't you technically be watching the past then? If you could get ahead of it, I'm saying, if you get ahead of the speed of light somehow and then turn around and look and then you'd be seeing Earth from, say, a thousand years ago or something. and then turn around and look, and then you'd be seeing Earth from, say, a thousand years ago or something. You would have to, yeah, you would have to figure out a way to get instantaneously so far away that the light that comes from Earth, but if you could see that good, wouldn't be the light anymore. Right? Would it? Well. I mean, I don't know. It's not my world. But if I could go back in time and see any era, I think Egypt during its prime would be the era that I would look into.

100%. If you look at all of what we know about ancient civilization, whatever's left, whatever's intriguing, all the amazing sites that archaeologists have explored, that's the one that's the most what the fuck. It is. I would do any, yeah, if there was one thing I could go back in time and look at, I want to see what was going on then. I want to see the construction

because then it would answer many, many other questions. That one thing alone would answer so many other things. Have you been in any of the Mayan structures? No, I went, I mean, just Inca stuff in Peru. But I do want to go down to central Mexico.

I want to do that next. I want to go to Chichen Itza. But I do want to go down to central Mexico. I want to do that next. I want to go to Chichén Itzá. I've been there. Yeah? Yeah, it's pretty amazing. They don't let you walk up on the things anymore. I think one of the, Jake Paul or someone fucked it up.

Didn't they fuck that up? Didn't someone like? I don't know. One of them, I think, did. Maybe someone filmed a music video up there or something. You want to hear something? Some pop star or something? Well, you can't climb the Great Pyramid of Giza anymore. You want to know why? Why? There's this French couple that went up there or something? You want to hear something? Some pop star or something? Well, you can't climb the Great Pyramid of Giza anymore.

You want to know why? Why? There's this French couple that went up there and they fucked on top of the Great Pyramid. Nice. And they uploaded the video. They ruined it for everybody?

Oh, yeah. And there's been some other instances too. Like someone went up there and like bra, tit list or whatever and like that really upset them. But you can see a picture.

I haven't seen the porno, but like there's, you see this couple. It's a snapshot of literally these two naked people on top of the Great Pyramid in the night sky. Yeah. Good for them. Why not? But they fucked it up for everybody else.

But Chichen Itza is really amazing. And, you know, when I went to Chichen Itza, they really had no idea what happened to the Mayans. This was 20 years ago. But now they're reasonably sure they were wiped out by disease. Yep. They think that European settlers came and the depictions that the Europeans had of how spectacular the Mayan civilization was back then and how these guys had these gold headdresses and these incredibly sophisticated cities and they brought in smallpox and just killed

everybody. What a shame. Yeah. But they did that to the Native Americans smallpox and just killed everybody. What a shame. Yeah. Well, they did that to the Native Americans. They did that to everybody. But what was really amazing about the sophistication of the settlements in Mexico was that they had these immense stone structures. By the way, they did it to the Amazonians too, the people that lived in the Amazon.

That was another really interesting conversation that I had with Graham Hancock, where he was talking about how through the use of LIDAR, they've detected all these grids. That was the basis of that movie, The Lost City of Z, that these European explorers had gone through the Amazon and come back with these amazing stories of these incredibly sophisticated civilizations. And then when people returned 50 years later, there was no such civilization. There was no evidence whatsoever because the jungle had swallowed up all these buildings. And until recently, they thought it was just folklore and bullshit until they started using LIDAR. And this light emitting radar thing that LIDAR is, I'm not exactly sure how it works, but through use of LIDAR, which is non-invasive, so it doesn't destroy anything, but it gives them a graph or an image of what is going on.

And through that, they saw all these grids that indicated streets and irrigation and all this. grids that indicated streets and irrigation and all this. So European travelers literally were genocidal by accident. They fucking killed everybody. I mean, as much as we like to talk about the genocide that European explorers enacted on Native Americans, which they absolutely did, they slaughtered a lot of Native Americans. It's not forgiving that. What they really killed them with is disease. 90% of Native Americans were killed by disease. Yeah, it's just, it's sad. It's heartbreaking to think about that. It's fucking crazy.

It's crazy that a country where they're getting along with this disease, I mean, they existed with it, they survived, and they came over on boats and gave it to people that didn't have an immunity to it, and it just burned right through the entire population. Yeah. Horrific. Yeah. And that's what happened to the Mayans. The Mayans, you know, and the Mayans is not that long ago.

You know, they know that the Mayan civilization, you know, they were around hundreds of years ago. You know, five, six hundred years ago, they were around. Like during Cabeza de Vaca, he details in his journeys across North America, he details all of his trips through the, like all these various Spanish explorers detail the Mayan civilizations. Going back to that LIDAR study. So one of, this is something that I just thought of is that it's so interesting that so that area that people had already that they found

on with through the use of LIDAR had already been previously surveyed on foot. And one of the and they didn't see anything, including a seven story tall building that was consumed by trees and lush vegetation. And it had, like I said, had already been surveyed on foot. So that's how much the earth consumes things. And so now they're using LIDAR from space and they're finding shit, shit, ancient stuff all over the Sahara desert. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, if this place was green 5,000 plus years ago and had the largest

freshwater lakes and a huge network of, of rivers, people of course would have been living there. And so now they're finding random stuff all over. I'm like, I've said it before. I think the Sahara Desert is the ancient jackpot. Like under that sand, they're going to find things and discoveries in our lifetime that I think are going to be probably amazing. Because I don't think people would have been there. It makes sense.

It makes sense if 5,000 years ago, if there was an advanced civilization in that area, and 5,000 years ago, it was all lush and green. What a weird thing, huh? That happens where the earth just continually shifts its climate and changes what's warm and green. That's why you look at houses in Malibu. You're like, what are you doing? This is not going to last, bro.

Yeah. You're on the edge of the ocean. What makes you think it's going to stay there? Yeah. People need to be including these things in the topic of climate change and man-made climate change and all that. Because I'm like, you know, if the Earth is going through these cycles that are, I mean, if we're looking at something like 50,000 years ago, the Earth's temperature was something like 15 degrees Fahrenheit hotter. It's been identified through the core ice samples of Antarctica. And it's like, well, if they want to say that, you know, two, three degrees Fahrenheit would be enough to screw over

our civilization. And well, if we're talking 15 plus degrees naturally, I want to know more about that and why it's not being included in the conversation. Well, you know, when Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson in particular, when he discusses this, one of the things that he says, says global warming is certainly a threat. He goes, but you know what a real threat is? Global cooling. He was like, global cooling is way worse. He's like, global warming essentially makes more plant life. You have like, that's the thing that's going on where we talk about like increased co2 in the environment there's more green on this earth today than has ever been it's it's and it's weird like

you think of wow we must be decimating the rainforest and we're killing all the we are definitely fucking up the rainforest for sure however there's a lot of green and it's more of it because green lives on carbon dioxide, which is kind of crazy. Yeah, and most people don't seem to, I mean, plenty of people know that, but I don't know if a lot of people do. Right, we're looking at it in terms of like pollution and particulates in the atmosphere

and he was saying that that's the real issue. Like pollution and particulates, that stuff's terrible and it causes cancer and it's making people have much shorter lives. If you look at people that live in highly dense urban environments, they generally live less long than people who live in clear air country. It's just by virtue of the shit you're breathing in, the environmental factor. But he said global cooling is fucking terrifying. You can't grow anything.

Yeah, ice ages are fucking terrifying. You can't grow anything. Yeah. Ice ages are fucking terrifying. Yeah. That's what we really need to be worried about. Well, I think we scared people enough. Yep. Oh, hold on one last thing.

I cannot possibly leave this podcast without telling you my DMT story. Oh, you have one? I do. So, uh, this is a few years ago. I made it myself,

which was like, so I'm an alchemist and I've only done this twice. I bought, this is no big, this is in different state alchemist and I've only done this twice. I bought, this is no big, this is in different state. No one, you can't come after me. I don't have anything. Um, but, uh, so the first thing I experienced is the loud ping in the side of my head, inside of my head that was unbelievably loud. And the whole room, my bedroom was vibrating. It was like, and then, whoom, whoom. And then I started seeing these little blobs

that had like these faces and they didn't, I got like a bad vibe from them. But then what I saw is it was all the beautiful colors and it was essentially a being with big old eyes. I interpreted it as feminine and it kept going like this with its arms. And in the middle of its body was a pyramid. Now, let me say a couple of things because some people, Oh, you know, he's an ancient history guy. Of course you can see pyramids. No, I, I did this

at the time because I was desperate for answers. And it was, it was a spiritual thing. And if you say, I think about all kinds of things throughout the day, I was the pyramids and ancient stuff was the furthest thing from my mind. And the only reason why I did DMT is because I couldn't figure out how to do ayahuasca and figured that was a dangerous thing to do, make myself, I got to go to Peru. How long ago was this?

This is 2018. So you weren't into Egypt back then? No, I was, but I mean, more so now. Not at the time. Right. And this was, I mean, this is, I was literally depressed and looking for answers in my life and guidance. And I was doing it from a spiritual standpoint because I felt like at that

time I could benefit from my ayahuasca journey, but I wasn't available to do it. So fast forward a couple of years later to last December, 2020, I'm in Egypt with Yosef Aouyan, the son of Akeem Abdel. And I was asking him because I was saying earlier that I think that the pyramids were not built to be tombs. I think there was something functional, but I'm not exactly sure what. Could it be something for generating power? Could it be something else? I don't know. But when I've walked through the internal structure layout, it's so bizarre, Joe. Nothing about it makes sense for a tomb. It's not meant for people to be through. It is utterly weird. But so getting to the point is Yosef, I asked him, I'm like, what do you think? Because he doesn't think it was built to be a tomb for anyone. And I said, what do you think it is? And he said his father told him it's us. And I instantly, the first thing I thought of was like, because I could never explain.

I didn't understand why I was seeing in my little DMT trip that it was a pyramid and a body and it was going like this. It was like this. Explain to people who are listening. So imagine pulling, folding out my two arms in front of me, palms up, like it was showing me something. Over and over again it was doing that? Yes, and the pyramid of all the colors was just in the middle of the body. And then when I go to Egypt, he says, it's us.

What does he mean by us? I don't know, Joe. That's what his father told him. And I have no idea. So it makes me wonder, I'm like, is the pyramid some sort of code in itself that the construction of it and the math and everything behind it equates to something

that explains something about humanity? Or, and this is a wild idea and it's nothing more than just an idea. But I look at the fact that across multiple continents around the world, there are different ancient civilizations that talk about us living to be hundreds and even thousands of years old. It's not just the Bible, it's the Sumerians, it's even Native Americans. There's different cultures around the world that had said the same thing. Now, that doesn't mean that that's true, but what if? Because some people think that, well, you got to keep in mind that the Nile River was once eight miles closer to the pyramids and went right up to the steps. So, for example, when you brought up earlier with that boat that was found literally right next to the Great Pyramid, the water went up to the steps virtually. It was right there. some people argue that water was moved through the pyramid and had something to do with oxygen.

And this is why these are just wild ideas, by the way. But what if it was something for DNA restoration? Because if it was possible for people to live to have been thousands of years old, which I have no idea. But if that happened, let's say, could because it's like if these pyramids were not tombs, then what were they? If the water went right up next to him, that makes me think maybe had something to do with generating power. And I know that sounds crazy to some people for talking about a stack of bricks and stones. Like what are you talking about?

But I encourage people to look at the internal structure and layout of the pyramid. You can just Google image it and look at the map. And when you walk through it, Joe, it's utterly bizarre. It's not made to be walked through. You gotta keep in mind, you're seeing it as it is today with these boards, these planks just so you can walk through it.

Like you go through this 300-foot-long shaft that's like three by three. And then when you get up to the Grand Gallery, so-called Grand Gallery, it's the same thing. It was like smooth like a slide. Generating power how? Is there a speculation? So there's a gentleman named Christopher Dunn that we saw. He was in one of the articles that was brought up earlier. He's the one that developed – he wrote a book about it and it's called the Giza Power Plant. And he,

some people have theorized it had to do with separating hydrogen from the water or something. These are wild ideas. I don't, I'm not, I can't speak to it much because it's kind of a, it's hard for me, my brain to wrap around. I'm like, I don't know what they're talking about other than that. But I can look at it and think that this thing is unbelievably different than any type of Egyptian burial site. For example, the Valley of the Kings is obviously a known place of burial and it's wall to ceiling covered all over in glyphs, paintings, beautiful stuff, all the mastabas around the pyramids, same thing. Every known burial site for anything in the Egyptians is covered in wall art, and it looks like a burial site,

whereas there's not one single glyph in any of the pyramids whatsoever, other than the Pyramid of Unas, which has some beautiful paintings, but it was, this is a thing people don't mention, it's over plaster, it wasn't on the stone. So someone, it's, you see the stone, which is spectacular and there's plaster over it. And then, and it looks honestly, and I don't mean any disrespect, it just doesn't look good at all compared to the structure itself. So somebody probably did that later on.

Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it's worth mentioning and I want more people need to explore this. Like there's almost zero evidence to even suggest that it was a pyramid. The reason why people think it is today is because we were taught it in school at a young, impressionable age, and we weren't even explained any of the details. Never mind that there was no mummies found. That could be explainable by looting. But if you bring up and you see the structure itself, it is so bizarre. And to me, I think it's just above us. So bizarre in the way the tunnels were created and these shafts that go up and down.

And it doesn't look like something that was designed for people to move through. Whatsoever. It's so strange, Joe. And so this guy's book, does he speculate? Does he have a good explanation? He posits that it is a, it was a power plant. Right, but for what?

That's a great question. Like how did it generate power? Through water? From what I gathered, it was the running water through it and you were able to separate the hydrogen out of the water or something to that effect. Huh. And deal with it, I don't know.

But that it was something. Well, you know, it's all that who knows shit is like, it goes out the window when you look at what they did do. Like you can make all your like, well, who knows what they did. Look what they did do, though. Look what they did do. Look at this 2,300,000 stone structure that is just pointed to perfect due north, south, east, and west.

Like, what do they do? Who are these people? What do they do? How the fuck do they do this? It's one of the funnest mysteries, and this is the one thing I've seen, because when I was talking earlier at the beginning of this podcast, like, what topics do I want to talk about?

These are the ones that make me most happy, and I remember thinking, like, it's positive. I'm not debating abortion here. I'm debating the pyramids, and it's so funny, Joe, because it's quite a sensitive topic, whether it's Atlantis or the pyramids, even suggesting something alternative comes with so much backlash. It's quite interesting, but it's supposed to be fun. It's interesting. And I just can't help but think about that DMT experience that was showing me that because I'm like, when he said it's us, and I don't know what that means, I'm like, I think there's something there because what I saw, I don't know.

It makes me, it really made me wonder because I didn't think much about it for the couple years after that. I told my brother about it and he's like, well, that's interesting. And I kind of like, it's not that I forgot about it, but I was like, I don't know. I guess it's just my brain that developed some, it was just imagination. Who knows? Yeah. Who knows? Yeah. Thanks for being here, man. Who knows? Yeah. Who knows? Yeah.

Thanks for being here, man. Joe. Gotta wrap this up. Tell everybody one more time, it's bright underscore insight on Instagram. Yep. Bright insight on YouTube. Yep. Bright insight, two words.

My name's Jimmy and it's all kinds of fun topics. Follow me on there. And Joe, I have to say thank you very much. I couldn't have been more flattered that you invited me on. My pleasure, dude. Thanks for being here. And thanks for putting out such interesting content. You've got a lot of really cool shit on your YouTube page. One last thing, we're wrapping up. I just want to tell to anyone out there, get off the couch. It's surreal to me that a handful of years ago, Joe, I was on the couch,

unhappy in life, and in watching Joe Rogan podcast. And now here I am sitting across from you. And all I did was decide, and it wasn't easy, but I made choices and changes in my life. And next thing you know, I find myself traveling to these sites, being on your podcast and other things. And I just want to tell people if there's only one message is that because in the short term, people are going to have to get creative to make money in the near future, I suspect. People more than ever are unhappy with the direction of their lives, corporate work, and everything else. You can make changes. You can do it, too. Get off the fucking couch. Thank you, Joe.

Get after it, people. Bye, everybody. Bye now. Thank you.