The Joe Rogan Experience - #1752 - Tim Dillon

Episode Date: December 24, 2021

Tim Dillon is a stand up comedian and CEO of Fake Business. His podcast “The Tim Dillon Show” is available on Spotify.

the Joe Rogan experience I don't know if I'm gonna buy Rolls Royce but I do like them what about a Cadillac I think you're more of a Cadillac guy well that's it that's a knock right no that's kind of a knock no they're great cars it's a knock. Right? No, they're great. That's kind of a knock. No, they're great cars. It's a Long Island. Aren't you? Yeah, it's a car for a Long Island guy who's a little full of shit.

Long Island? Yeah. I could see myself in Escalade. They're great. They're amazing. There's a lot of guys who want to be Tony Soprano, who aren't Tony Soprano, who like the Sopranos, who drive Escalades. That is an issue.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like pinky rings. You really can't wear a pinky ring. It's a car where when you're driving in it, you're in a movie that no one's watching except you, and you're starring in it.

If you've got that Soprano song, Woke Up This Morning. Yeah. Well, you like only pretty much fast cars. No, I like all kinds of cars. Okay. Yeah. You're not like a luxury sedan guy I've had them. Yeah. Yeah, I've had them before. What was the best one? I had a BMW 7 series. They're great It's amazing. I love them. It was really comfortable. Yeah, those just like you feel like you're

Insulated from the world. Yeah, I feel like Those cars I love but I also feel like a dentist because my dentist had it. Like in Long Island, dentists have BMW 7 Series or Mercedes S500s. That's like the car for like your doctor. That's a nice car too. Yeah. The Benz S-Class. Yeah.

Very nice car. Those are nice. Yeah, those are nice. I got the Tesla, the new Plaid. The fast one. It's preposterous. It got the Tesla, the new Plaid. The fast one. It's preposterous. It's insane. But the steering wheel's dumb.

It's a yoke. I'm not a fan of the steering wheel. You got to talk to your boy. I don't know what to tell him. He's dead set on the yoke. What is the yoke? It's like a Formula One car. Right.

You know? Right. Like it's got a handle on here and a handle on here. Yeah. And you just kind of like hold it like this. Not only that, the horn is not this anymore. No. It's not hit the center.

It's a button that you have to awkwardly move your thumb to get to, to hit, and you have to know that's the steering wheel. See what the horn is? See the little horn icon? Fuck that thing. I'm not a fan of that. I mean, when I grab the top, my thumb, if extended, does go where the horn is like perfectly. But I want to hit the center.

That's where the horn is. The horn's the center. Yeah. It's old habits. Die hard. And the blinkers. You see the blinkers? They're on the left-hand side.

That's left and right. So you have to look. Instead of like the little stick. Right. I like the stick. The left, right, left, right. It's easy. My problem with Tesla is my producer has a Tesla.

And people that have Teslas think they've done well. But what is it? It's like a $35,000 car, right? It's a cheap car. Depends on which one you get. Right. That one is the S is, how much does that cost? It's well over $100,000.

Right. But I think the beginners, you can get them for like $38,000. You can get the 3. Yeah. It's a great100,000. Right. But I think the beginners, you can get them for like $38,000. You can get the 3. Yeah. It's a great car, though. Sure. If you want a car that's reliable, fast as fuck, great battery life, easy to drive. But it's too much of a cult.

Everybody who's in it talks about it. That's me. Yeah. I'm in that cult. You know the guy, right? Yeah. There's people out there that are talking about Starlink satellites and SpaceX and it's like, guys, shut up.

They feel like they're part of this revolutionary force, but you just bought a car. It's like how Apple was in the 90s. That's right. Yeah. People just get too involved. People would talk about it and they would say, we've got a new operating system coming out. I'm like, we? Right.

Yeah. Who's we? We. Yeah. Who's we? Interesting. Yeah. No, it's too, my producer, when he got it, Ben, when he got it, would just talk endlessly

about it and everything that it did and how cool it was. It's amazing. That's the problem. The problem is, it is a fucking amazing car. The car is, you've been in my other one. Yeah. Remember how fast that was? It's very fast. I figured it out from the improv. It car is, you've been in my other one. Yeah. Remember how fast that was? It's very fast.

Are you watching the improv? It's very fast. This one's twice as fast. That's crazy. It's insanity. Yeah. Zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds for a full-size four-door sedan. That's crazy.

Yeah, it's nuts. What's the top speed? It's 175 miles an hour or something crazy. I think it's limited. Did they govern it or something? Yeah. I thought it or something yeah probably does i mean it's fucking insane it's like a thousand horsepower yeah it's got three engines do you worry about other people having caught like a car that's that fast yeah you should yeah you should it's like well i worry about that with everything with corvettes with

yeah you can just go to a store and buy a fucking race car. Yeah. Buy a car that would outperform most GT3 cars from, you know, 20 years ago. Most cars that people raced. Okay. 167 miles an hour, which is, that's the fastest I guess it goes. Okay. Well, it's the ability to merge is the most incredible thing like

when you get into it like if you hit an on-ramp and you have an opening it's just it just goes because you can just write just go hit right right but it's not hard to drive slow it's not like it's uncomfortable right some fast cars they're like herky-jerky it's not like that at all it's very smooth do you think the ev market is just the future in terms of like what we're gonna see it is but it's like do they have enough battery material that's my question we'll start a few wars i mean what do they need lithium ion we can go back in afghanistan i think they're going to war with nevada right Yeah. Because they're pulling it out of Nevada.

Well, they're going to South America, too. Yeah. There's a lot of different, you know. Yeah, minerals down there. Sure. Where do they get most of their lithium? I think they are doing it in Nevada now. I did read something about Nevada being a hotbed for lithium.

Yeah. Well, that's the thing now. All these new tech companies are, like, very they have all these electric cars, but they're mining these minerals that they need for their products in a lot of different places. And, you know, I'm sure they're other day about Africa and coltan and that like at the heart of every cell phone is this mineral called coltan. And where they get coltan is like people are literally digging it out of the ground in the Congo. Right. And they're working in horrific conditions and it's fucking horrible, dirty work. What is this? Australia. Fucking horrible, dirty work. What is this? The biggest mine was in Australia, but the biggest company is an American company in Chile, Australia, in the US. Interesting.

Big market cap. Well, it's funny that they get it out of Australia. I don't feel bad about it at all. They take it from Australia. That's fine. Yeah, that's who cares. That's fine. That fucking place has lost their mind.

They've gone insane. No one's lost their mind better than Australia. And it's a great sign that everyone needs guns. Well, it was shocking that it was that country. Yeah. Because I always thought that country was like a party. Yeah. You know?

Like everybody was just having fun. But it is a penal colony. Yeah. And a lot of the people there, you know, are the descendants of criminals. And from knowing people that live in Australia, they don't love work, which is okay, right?

Like their culture is not about working. So if somebody says, hey, sit in your yard and get hammered for a year, they don't ask too many questions. They go, let's do it. But then it gets increasingly more and more draconian and crazy and they're doing face

scans and they're checking your cup. Did you really go for coffee? Let me see if you have coffee in your cup. But it's crazy. I saw that video. They were checking that lady's a gut lady. Yeah. Do you have coffee in your cup?

To make sure she can have her mask down to be drinking. It's insane. But this is after 9-11. After 9-11, you get patted down and you'll get molested. The TSA will molest you at an airport for no reason. They're molesting an 85-year-old grandmother from Kentucky. In case she's a terrorist. In case she has a bomb hidden, you know?

So this is a problem, right? I mean, unless people restore. Hopefully this variant sweeps, it's mild, everybody's got natural immunity, and we move on. I don't think that's going to happen. Yeah, maybe not. The reality of human beings is once you give people power, they don't give it back. Yeah.

And that's what's going on now with fucking Lori Lightfoot in Chicago. Yeah. Says she's going to make it inconvenient for everybody who doesn't have a vaccine. Yeah. But the bottom line is the vaccine doesn't work on this variant. They're saying it's a vaccine escape variant. So does it keep you out of the hospital? What keeps you out of the hospital?

Being healthy. Yeah. That means like- Supposedly- The idea that the only thing that keeps you out of the hospital is medicine. Well, no, I don't think it's the only thing, but I get my news from Donald Trump, who told Candace Owens that the vaccine is a miracle and it works. Well, because he came up with it.

Yeah. But a lot of people are saying that if you not really him obviously you get you're out you're you're prevented from death or yeah you know which by the way is the last i mean it started with you won't get it yeah and then it was you might get it but you won't get sick then it was well you'll get sick now it's you won't die so it has you seen the breakdown american product you know it's an American product. It is an American product. It's an American product. Truly, it's an American product where by the end of it, it's like, hey, you might not die, which is many of our products. But you might.

Sure, you could. But less people will die. Yeah. Allegedly. I don't think we really know. Like, I think we're going to find out, I think, years from now, what this whole thing was. Well, for sure, there's a lot of money involved. And whenever there's a lot of money involved, then there's fuckery.

Yes. And there's for sure fuckery involved. Sure. And have you ever seen the compilation of what Fauci said at the beginning of the vaccine distribution versus now? No. You never seen that video? No, I'm sure it's...

Well, because I remember it, though, because I remember that the idea was that you wouldn't contract it. Yeah, you're not going to get the virus. And that the breakthrough cases would be rare. Very rare. Extremely rare. I mean, we all got it early. Everyone that I know got it early because it was, we believed it was like putting a wristband on and you could go into Six Flags.

Basically, it was like, oh, I have it. Let's go. Party's on. But now it's not even you need a booster California all the state workers now have to have a booster and that's the third and Israel's on the fourth there's no science about this

by the way there's no data on whether or not the fourth helps you there's also no data the claim is that it refreshes the antibodies There's no data on whether or not the fourth helps you. There's also no data. What does it do? It refreshes their, the claim is that it refreshes the antibodies. Gives you a little extra boost. Gives you a boost. It's a boost.

I think the term booster should go. It's a bump. It's a bump of cocaine. I think saying, giving someone a boost, there should be more of a medical way to describe it. Yeah. But they are, listen, they are saying that the vast majority of people that are dying are unvaccinated. That seems to be.

That's not true. That's what they're saying. Yeah. I don't think that's true anymore. I think. It may be that death is very rare no matter what. It depends on what you read. Below a certain age.

When I'm saying that's not true, I'm reading a bunch of different stories. Right. On people being vaccinated, unvaccinated. Here's a real problem with a lack of treatment. That's a real problem. There's also a real problem in that when you get checked in. But when you get checked into a hospital, if you already checked in, they no longer will give you monoclonal antibodies. You literally have to get monoclonal antibodies in the emergency room. If you get checked into the hospital, then there's no monoclonal.

And you're already too sick. Which doesn't make any sense. It literally makes no sense. Right. I was listening to Peter McCullough, and I don't know if this diminishes his credibility. I bought crack off him in downtown Austin three days ago. He's got good crack.

Yeah, but other than that, he was saying that you need to get on an early treatment regimen. I think we're having these weird conversations that are kind of in a box because so many people don't have health care. They're afraid to go to the emergency room. They're afraid to go to a doctor. They don't have the money. They can't take off work. So the idea that having this for-profit health care system where everybody's trying to make money seems to be a real impetus to getting people early treatment because most people can't get early

treatment because they're terrified of spending the money. They don't know what they're going to get hit in the mail for. That's true. So it seems to be like, I think everything he was saying about getting on early stuff makes sense if you have healthcare. Well, even if you don't have healthcare, the thing about ivermectin is that it's very inexpensive. Whether or not it actually works as the people that are proponents of it think it does, remains to be seen.

Did you give it out for Halloween? I gave it to everybody. Okay, because I heard that you were giving it out for Halloween at the house. I got a room full of it in my house. I opened up the room. I heard you were just giving it out to people. I opened it. It sounds like angel voices. Yeah. And it's just, I feel like you have a DuckTales vat of Ivermectin that you swim in every day. Just like, you know, remember DuckTales? They had the coins.

It's just you and Ivermectin just doing backstroke in Ivermectin. I never thought that that was going to be a big deal. I really didn't. Yeah. When I was bringing that up, I was bringing it up because it was a thing that was on a laundry list of stuff I took. It was one of the things. Yeah, it's forever associated.

Connected to me. Isn't it funny that like a year ago, if they said, you're going to be in this crazy controversy about a drug, you'd be like,

what are you talking about? Why would I do that? I don't know. That doesn't even make any sense. Right. Yeah. One of the things that's been very strange

about this is watching how people get very like in, there are certain things in society where people's quote unquote lived experience is like the most important thing. Right. If you identify as a different gender, whatever, if you are mentally unwell and say I can't perform certain duties you go I respect that but if you say I took ivermectin and I felt better people turn around

and go shut up it's weird that's weird well they got tricked they got tricked into doing this by the media and the media over and over and over again said disproven conspiracy theory horse dewormer. They said all these things.

But what they ignored is how effective it's been in other countries. Right. But Japan, which is not an alt-right Reddit thread, it's Japan. They were like, we're authorizing the use of ivermectin. And they had a giant drop off of COVID cases. The same thing happened in parts of india you can get it in texas like when i had covid my doctor just wrote me a prescription for ivermectin some doctors i know a doctor who's actually being brought in front of the medical

board being subpoenaed because this doctor prescribed ivermectin to patients with covid and they want to know why well so there's a this is actually like they're being brought in front of a fucking board about a drug that if you go to the critical care front front line covid critical care group right people have done it for thousands of people there's all sorts of at least anecdotal tales of people getting better after ivermectin they do know that it stops viral replication in vitro, which means in a lab culture. They do know that other countries have reported significant success. They have these RCTs, these randomized controlled trials that

they can list over and over and over again about ivermectin. The problem is, it's like the data is kind of sloppy. Some of it is they used it in prophylaxis, which means they use it as a preventative measure. Some of it, they used it in early care. Some of it, they used it deep into the sickness. So it's like, we don't know. And also, there's clearly some kind of a conspiracy to try to demonize that medication. When you look at the amount of people that said horse dewormer, horse dewormer, you look

at the bullshit story that was in the Rolling Stone that was proven to be absolutely not real about people waiting in line at the hospital, they couldn't get into the emergency room with gunshot wounds because so many people in there with horse dewormers which is proven untrue not just proven untrue, just a fabrication

well it's a bad, I think the idea that there's a vaccine that's available and people are being mandated to take it rubs people the wrong way. Well, also because people are vaccinated and still getting sick and still

spreading it. And they're trying to pretend that's not the case. I think that it's been a big problem watching the sales pitch because to me it should be the vaccine is available if you take it, it should reduce your likelihood of getting sick that should

not be, you shouldn't lose your job. That's what I was saying it seems crazy to me to fire somebody and make them destitute broke, homeless, right? Because they will not take a vaccine.

Not only that, a lot of them are nurses. And nurses have already got COVID. So they've had COVID. They recovered. They have better antibodies. Well, that's the thing. A lot of people. Stronger antibodies.

There's people that aren't anti-vax per se, but they say, I have natural immunity. Yeah. So that never made sense to me. The mandates never made sense. I didn't get that. Even the term vaccine is incorrect. It's a gene therapy. It's a different thing. A vaccine is like

smallpox. You get it, and then you never get smallpox. Or like measles. You know, once you have the vaccine, you don't have to worry about it anymore. For the vast majority of people. That's what a vaccine's supposed to be. This is something where you have to get three of them in a fucking year. But this is like when I used to sell mortgages,

you would get a mortgage, and then two years later, you would get a refinance. Exactly. So here's what you're not realizing. If I'm Pfizer, I'm not, I don't want to just be in your life for one transaction. I'm your partner for life. Right. Forever.

So every couple of years, I'm going to call you up and say, hi, Mr. Rogan, how are you? And we're going to do it again. We're going to get a boost. That's the American way we sell everything. There's not one product on the American market that people go, you got it, you're good. Not one. Every single

product. You could go buy an air conditioner. The guy's like, and when you have a kid and you need another one, you come back here. This is just kind of in our DNA. It's also weird that there's three vaccines. There's only two now. Well, there's two.

They're telling you not to take the Johnson & Johnson anymore. But that's weird. When the CEOs of the vaccines are making fun of each other, that doesn't make you feel good. No. Like, I remember people got the Johnson & Johnson, and then we were an hour away from getting it. They discontinued it.

Me and a bunch of people in LA. That didn't make you feel good. No. It shouldn't be, I think, I mean, capitalism has some great things, but like, I wonder if we should, like, the vaccine shouldn't be like one of these products where it's like, you know how Wendy's and Arby's fight on Twitter as a joke? I don't think a life-saving vaccine should have that. I don't think Moderna and Pfizer should

be fighting with each other. But it doesn't make you feel good about it. I don't think Moderna and Pfizer are fighting with each other, but different countries... Well, they'll knock each other. The CEO, Jamie can even look. Really? Yeah. Pfizer has knocked Moderna? Really? The CEO,

they made some comment... We only killed 30, The CEO, they made some comment. We only killed 30,000 people. They made some comment. How many people do you think really died from the vaccine? Do you think people are... Because I know so many people... 100% people have died from the vaccine. Well, for sure.

Right? We know that. But we don't know how many. We do know that historically, the VAERS, which is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, the VAERS reports have been under... like, whatever underreported means. If it's, there was one article that Harvard put out a paper about, I think it was about the HPV vaccine. Right. And they were saying that VAERS underreported, like, as significantly as 1%.

So it was like 99% unreported, 1% reported. So like out of 100 events, one of them would get reported. Is there any chance people on VAERS are just having fun? I don't think that's the case, but yes. Because I would like to go on VAERS and just have fun. Like a Yelp review? Just for fun. And just say the vaccine killed my whole family.

Just for fun. Like a Yelp review? Just for fun. And just say the vaccine killed my whole family. Right. Just for fun. Yeah. But if I can do that, the question is maybe other people, but maybe not. I don't, I think it's- I think you have to say the name of your doctor. There's more that goes into it. Peter McCullough was describing how difficult it is to file a VAERS claim and what has to be, you know, it's complicated.

Right. And it's also, it comes with criminal penalties if you're full of shit. It's, for sure people have died. The question is how many? I think they're reporting now 18,000 deaths. But what is that? It's the VAERS. What VAERS is saying is 18,000.

But you also have to think about the sheer numbers of people that have taken the vaccine. If it's 18,000 deaths and you're dealing with 230 plus million people that have taken the vaccine. If it's 18,000 deaths and you're dealing with 230-plus million people that have taken the vaccine, a lot of people are like, eh, it's not that bad. Unless it's your family, then it's horrible. Unless it's someone that's close to you. Unless it's your young child, which is some of the people that have died. Is it possible any of the people who died from the vaccine were racist?

Could be. Could be. I'm just trying to look at silver linings. Yeah, you should. You always should. I mean, some of them might have said things that they shouldn't have said. They might have lied about their taxes. They might not have paid their fair share. It's hard to know, right?

It's really difficult to know how many people, because then there's people and this is embarrassing, who are very anti-vax and die. Like all these right-wing radio guys. Yeah. They're very anti-vax. Those guys always die.

Isn't that interesting? And they call it the Herman Cain Award. Is that what they call it? They call it the Herman Cain Award. They're very anti-vax and then they die. And that's embarrassing too. So you're like. Yeah.

It's hard when you have a stance. It's like you gotta be right. Right. Because that's very embarrassing when these guys are like, fuck the vaccine. I'll never take the vaccine. And then they're in the hospital going, take the vaccine. And then they die. I don't know if that's ever really happened.

Oh, it's happened a million times. But they say, take the vaccine. Oh, yeah. There's, oh, yeah. I hear that. That guy Phil Valentine. I hear that. Yeah.

But I want recordings. I agree. You know what I'm saying? Like, if I was promoting a vaccine, I would want to say, on his hear that. Yeah. But I want recordings. I agree. You know what I'm saying? Like if I was promoting a vaccine, I would want to say on his deathbed. Yeah. He's telling people to take the vaccine. But it makes sense, right? Like if your whole thing was don't take it and then you die.

Yeah. So that that's one of the things where it's like you don't want to be that guy. Well, here's the other thing that drives me crazy is that for so many people that have caught it, they tell you just to go home and come back when your oxygen rate dips below 92. Yeah, that's not good care. That's a lot of what happens, though.

Right. There's no treatment for a lot of people. Every doctor treats it a different way in that regard. Yeah. And the ones that aren't, you know, the ones that have got on it early, like Peter McCullough and Dr. Pierre Corey, they prescribed a whole cocktail of things to take and they had great effect with it.

Right. Another thing is that Flavoxamine. Now, Peter Attia was posting something about Flavoxamine. I think it was about Flavoxamine the other day. Like they're trying to stop people from taking fluvoxamine for COVID, which has been proven to be very effective. It's actually an SSRI. And for some reason, it works very well to prevent some infections of COVID.

What's weird is people trying to stop people from taking medication is very weird. Because they have a binary approach. It's a very suspect. You need to take the vaccine. You need to take the vaccine. But it's also the vaccine has become, in lot of ways a low almost like a religious thing yeah it's like you have to believe in the vaccine it's like you have to understand this thing i understand that they're trying to say that these things aren't a replacement for a vaccine but i

don't know why you can't say hey we've got an effective vaccine and here are treatments as well. Because you don't make as much money on the vaccine. Look, clearly the vaccines have influence on media. If you watch that video compilation, Anderson Cooper brought to you by Pfizer. You've seen that compilation, right? With show after show after show brought to you by Pfizer. Clearly that is going to limit their ability to criticize. It's just going to. It's just going to.

It's just going to. I mean, whether it's a spoken or unspoken thing, there's going to be some pushback. And that has an effect. And also it has an effect, the term anti-vaxxer has an effect. So there's a lot of people who want to take the vaccine. But you're not. You've gotten other vaccines. I've got all of them.

Yeah. Everything except COVID, and I almost got COVID. I almost took the COVID vaccine. I remember you almost took it. The only reason why I did it is because the UFC wanted me to go to a hospital instead of, I thought I could do it at the UFC offices. I went there, and that was the understanding. And they're like, for whatever reason, whether it's the CDC or whatever,

they said, you got to go down to the hospital. I said, well, I can't today. Today's the fight. I was going to do it the day of the fights. Right. I was just like, shoot me up. I well, I can't today. Today's the fight. I was going to do it the day of the fights. Right. I was just like, shoot me up. I thought, I didn't even think of a side effect. I was like, we're going to be, nobody even knew side effects were a thing back then.

Right. But then they pulled it. I was supposed to come back within two weeks. I said, I'll come back in two weeks because I'm going to be back here again. Right. And I go and just, well, I'll just come a day early and we'll do it at the hospital. And then they pulled it during that time period. And I was like, what the fuck? And then they pulled it during that time period.

And I was like, what the fuck? And then two people I knew had strokes. And then I was like, what is going on? And they had a stroke after they took the vaccine. And that was Johnson & Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the one that they're telling people to not take now because of rare blood clots.

Like, how rare is it that you're telling people not to take it? Did they get COVID? I don't know. But I know two people who did get COVID that took the Johnson & Johnson, including Dana White. He got COVID. But even the people that had strokes, they didn't get COVID. They might have got COVID after they got strokes. Right. A lot of people did. My point is that

I think a stroke is a small price to pay for peace of mind. If it's a minor stroke. I think if you have a stroke, you have peace of mind and you know that you're not going to be sick. I'd rather stroke out in a CVS after getting a vaccine than have to deal with COVID. My friend just almost stroked out in a Walgreens. After the vaccine?

They shot him up, and then- But I don't know any of the- They give you 15 minutes? All my friends are horribly unhealthy. They're all comedians, but none of them have had a stroke. Well, this guy, it took his booster just last week. Yeah. And within 15 minutes, they had to take him to the hospital.

His heart started racing and pounding, and he was freaking out, and he couldn't breathe, and he had to lie down, and then they took him off in an ambulance. And this is a dude you just- Yeah, it's a guy I know from L.A. Yeah. Not good. Not good.

Yeah. There's that thing. They tell you, wait here for 15 minutes in case you just- Yeah, it's a guy I know from LA. Yeah. Not good. Not good. Yeah. Like, there's that thing. They tell you, wait here for 15 minutes in case you die. Yeah. And he almost died. They told my agent that, and he goes, I'd rather die in my Tesla than die in a Roll Grades. And he got in his car and left.

Stroked out on the highway. Real LA response. That is a- He goes, I'd rather die on the 101. Fuck you. Listen, it seems to be one of those situations where it's obviously you don't want to stroke out in a CVS. But you don't want to be one of these people who didn't take it and then you're in ICU going, I was wrong. Right, but how many of those people could have been saved with monoclonal antibodies?

I don't know. How about most of them? Perhaps. I bet a lot of them. Some of them. If you get it early enough. Yeah, but there's people that got it pretty deep in and they still did really well. Yeah. I knew a guy who got it

14 days in. He was wrecked. And then 14 days in, he finally got a hold of monoclonal antibodies. Cleared it right up. Yeah. Within three days, he said he was good to go. But he's not working for the new variant. I don't know if that's true. Yeah. Do you think that's true? Well, Ben took it. He wasn't. The monoclonal didn't really affect him. Like for me, for Delta, I was better two days later.

Listen to that word, Delta. How do you know what variant you got? I just, that was the one that was spreading in the summer. Yeah, me too. But what happened to the first one? It took a vacation? I don't know. It's not around anymore?

I don't know. It's not working anymore? Well, that was the one they were talking about. Yeah, but how do we know? Oh, I don't know. This is what's driving me crazy. I have't know. It's not around anymore? I don't know. It's not working anymore? Well, that was the one they were talking about. Yeah, but how do we know? Oh, I don't know. This is what's driving me crazy. I have no idea. We're going to pull the monoclonal antibodies because Omicron, it's not effective for Omicron.

What about all the people that don't have Omicron? That have the other one, yeah. Do you not think the Delta's still around? Sure. Did it stop? It just quit. It's weird that they're pulling it in general. Why would you pull a medication?

Dude, I don't buy any of this shit. I have seen so much fuckery. I've talked to so many doctors that are talking about this. I've seen doctors get removed off of Twitter for suggesting off-label use of medications that have been proven to be effective, at least anecdotally. It's very strange that people are being penalized for prescribing harmless medication. Literally harmless. Literally harmless. Literally harmless.

Or the best thing you could do is just do nothing. It's either that or do nothing? Yeah. It's strange. It's absolutely strange. You know, I think that it's a hard call to make with the vaccine because there are people that have gotten hospitalized and died that don't have it yeah so that makes people go oh fuck i think you know if you have the vaccine you are

clearly better protected than someone who doesn't have the vaccine right particularly if you're not in good shape if you're not healthy which is the majority of america it's like what did we say the other day the 40 of america's obese is that what it was more it's much more something highly and then the ones that aren't are like a lot of them are pill heads yes or they're overworked they're stressed they're drunks yeah they're dark with pedophiles there's a lot of people that are fucked the country's a mess and how many people are on medications that also disturb disturb your immune system a hundred a lot of people there's a lot of people many people are on medications that also disturb your immune system? A hundred percent A lot of people

There's a lot of people that are on Well, the other thing is we ignore, you know, part of the COVID thing has been It's taken all of the oxygen out of the conversation We have an opioid epidemic We have all kinds of other health problems, too More people have died from opioids this year Yeah From 18 to 49 than anything

Yeah More than 100,000 people, to 49 have died from opioids. Yeah, I mean- From fentanyl in particular. Fentanyl, laced cocaine, it's a huge problem. That's a real epidemic and you hear a fucking peep

about it on CNN. Yeah. You don't hear a goddamn peep. They don't care. They also don't talk about the people that get arrested that work for them that are perverts.

There's a lot of that. Have you seen that? There's more of that than you would think. Yes. Because it's weird. But the CIA has that problem too. Do they?

They have that problem too. CIA has pedophiles working for them? Yeah. So is it like a cop who's a drug dealer? Like you're around it and you say, I'm going to try it. I don't know what it is. But there's a major issue at the CIA and the NSA

with some of their contractors and some of the people that work there doing horrible things and getting caught. Where is this? I haven't even seen this yet. I mean, Jamie can pull it up, but this is legit. He's working on it. I mean, these are people that are working within highly sensitive

intelligence matters, and you would think that these institutions would know what they're doing. Yeah. And these people are on the dark web, and they're like, I mean, it's crazy. Too much power. People have too much power. People have too much power. I mean, this is what we're seeing over... Look, the fact that people are...

Here it is. Secret CIA files say staffers committed sex crimes involving children. Holy shit. Declassified CIA inspector general reports show a pattern of abuse and a repeated decision by federal prosecutors not to hold agency personnel accountable. Huh. Odd. Wow.

That's odd. You think they just... They're like, this is bad for PR. Let's just pretend it didn't happen. Well, yeah, I mean, this is also, we know for a fact that these people for years and years and years have used this as a way to blackmail and entrap people. Yes. Yeah, that's true. I mean, this is reality.

You know, it's unfortunate. Secretly amassed credible evidence that at least 10 of its employees and contractors committed sexual crimes involving children. Holy shit. Crazy. Holy shit. Oh my God. Look at this.

Scroll down. One employee had a sexual contact with a two-year-old and a six-year-old girl. He was fired. A second employee purchased three sexually explicit videos of young girls filmed by their mothers. He resigned. That's crazy. Third employee.

I don't even want to fucking read this. It's disturbing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, listen. Nobody's perfect. We're at the end of an empire.

Oh, yeah. This is how it ends. This doesn't turn around. I'm going to show you how it ends. Yeah. I'm going to send this to Jamie so you see how it ends. I think China will be okay. China's going to do great.

I think China will be okay. I don't worry about China like everyone else does. Did you know that they're already deliberating for the Maxwell trial? I didn't know that it was almost over. What? Yeah. They're pausing deliberations until Monday. The Ghislaine Maxwell show trial was absolutely a completely unserious attempt.

Look at this. The judge in the Maxwell trial asked jurors to deliberate today. They said, no, thank you. Interesting. Well, because it's the holidays. Oh, right. I mean, you've got to enjoy Christmas without talking about this creep and his British girlfriend diddling children on an island.

There's gotta be some level of like, hey, we're trying to decorate our tree. Can we take three days and not do this? Put that back. We can see what it said. Look at this. Frustration grows over heavily redacted Epstein pilots' flight logs. Let me stop right there. Because if they could show Bill Clinton

flied with him 26 fucking times, who are they redacting? Well, I think people that are currently in positions of power. You've got to realize the Clintons are done. They're done. They were very powerful, but they're done. But there's a lot of prime ministers.

There's a lot of senators. There's a lot of congressmen. There's a lot of people that there's a lot of senators there's a lot of congressmen there's a lot of people that are still presidents vice for who knows that are still in power that they may be protecting my favorite is when they ask bill gates about it yeah and he's like well he's dead now yeah you see that oh yeah that is the wildest answer ever to why did you have a relationship with a pervert all these these creepy. Right, right. He's dead. He's gone.

All these creepy tech guys are nerds. They make all this money. And then this guy shows up and goes, hey, I got all these chicks on an island. Yeah. They don't ask too many questions. And this is the part. Oh, here we go. Play this.

Because this is the end of an empire. And this is Gad Saad said that. And he's definitely right. He said, America, it's been a hell of a run. But it's over. Yeah, no, it's not looking. This is a lady is singing. It says the East Room.

The people in the background all have masks on. She doesn't have masks on. Why doesn't she have a mask on either right it doesn't make any these two old white ladies have no masks all the people of color and the diversity behind them are masked up that's true yeah it makes no sense look you have like it's almost like they picked it on purpose. You have some African Americans. You have a smattering of Asians. You have looks like Latinas. You don't have any white people except the two white people that have no masks on. It's fucking strange.

It is a rules for you and not for me video. Look at this. The only people without masks are white people. This is like a secret message they're sending out. Look at this the only people without masks are white people this is like a secret message they're sending out look at this these old ladies should be nowhere near people do they not know about the omicron they're singing so the two without masks are singing. Yeah, but everyone's singing. But is this about the vaccine or not? But they're all singing. Yeah.

And they're all wearing nurses' outfits. Those people are singing. There's other voices. So either they're lip syncing or they're singing along because they're moving their face and they're moving their hands and their jaws are moving. Their masks are moving like they're singing along because they're moving their face and they're moving their hands and their jaws are moving. Their masks are moving like they're singing. So are they filtered?

Is that what the idea is? They're being safe? Where is the president? He's dead. Yeah. I mean, like, did you see him give answers to a press conference the other day? He took questions. He shouldn't even be doing this, right?

No, it was beautiful. He took questions yesterday, and they started asking him about tests, and he just kept saying the same thing. Nobody saw this coming. It's like this thing, this Omicron. Nobody saw this. And as it goes on for like five or six minutes. Yeah.

Like as it goes on, you're like, oh my God, he's gone. Yeah, he's out. He's worse than he was a month ago. He's getting worse. He's progressively declining. Yeah. It seems. Yeah. And then Kamala Harris, they're trying to ice her out. All the

press coming out is like she's... Michelle Obama. Yeah. And they're going to bring Harris. Michelle Obama and Harris. Harris comes back as the vice president. Michelle Obama's the president. We get a double dose of diversity. They'll win. Let's go champ. They'll win. And then who's on the Republican side?

DeSantis? Trump and DeSantis. Together. They have to make a super team. It's the only way they win. Let's go champ. They'll win. And then who's on the Republican side? DeSantis? Trump and DeSantis. Together. They have to make a super team. It's the only way they win. That's the only way they win. Super team. Trump comes out as the president. Yeah.

If Michelle Obama, I really believe if Michelle Obama runs, she wins. Yeah. I think she wins. She's good. She's great. Yeah. She's intelligent. She's articulate.

She's the wife of the best president that we have had in our lifetime in terms of a representative of intelligent, articulate people. She could win. Yeah. I think the only thing that would stop is if she bought into some of these policies that are destroying businesses in America that make people scared. If she somehow or another supported or showed any support for lockdowns and mandates and all this craziness that's going on, if she did.

I think we're, I think, God willing, we're on the other end of that. And I think that the problems now with like the defunding the cops and stuff, they seem to be reversing all of those policies in these cities where homicide rates have skyrocketed well they're gonna have to i mean there's no other solution people in la are getting gun in the face when they're eating dinner they're being attacked they're you know it's like now some of it's overstated to a degree because like you know obviously the media is just it's the media right so right? So I mean, it's like they're going to run with it and get people excited about something. But there's a real uptick in crime in wealthy areas.

And those people are unhappy. That woman who just got killed in her Beverly Hills home, tragically. That's the CEO of Netflix's mother-in-law. It's crazy. Yeah, they gunned her down in her Beverly Hills house. Yeah, so those types of things are, I think, making a lot of people go, hey, this wasn't the best idea.

Not enough people, though. I mean, people should be in the fucking streets protesting. The district attorney, see the district attorney called cops pigs, essentially? The LA district attorney said, when you roll around with pigs,

you get dirty. That was the way described like what's going on with crime in Los Angeles yeah like what yeah this is just a metaphor about being dirty it has nothing to do with cops and like yeah yeah that was probably not the greatest choice yeah see if you can find when he said that. You got it right here? Play it. Here. Look at this. LA District Attorney George Gascon, who's like the biggest fucking communist in all of law,

was asked to respond to LA Sheriff Alex... How do you say that? Villain Wave. He's like actually really good. My dad used to say, when you wrestle with a pig, you both get muddy and the pig likes it. Says he didn't use the word to demean law enforcement. Just play it.

Look, I'm going to, you know, my dad used to say that when you wrestle with a pig, you both get muddy and the pig likes it. Okay. When you wrestle with a pig, you both get muddy and the pig likes it. Okay? And that's not pig in terms of using the term as to law enforcement. It's to people that often act in ways that I believe that are not consistent with the decorum. Yeah, I mean, he's mentally ill. I mean, to say that is crazy. It's a psychopath. No, it's a psychotic statement. And he's saying this about the L.A. sheriff. No, he's mentally ill. I mean, to say that is crazy. It's a psychopath. No, it's a psychotic statement.

And he's saying this about the L.A. sheriff. No, it's crazy. When you wrestle with a pig, you both get money and the pig likes it. Yeah. Imagine that this guy is still in office. Yeah, no, it's crazy. This guy has let so many fucking people out. Well, Gavin Newsom's still in office.

This effete wine merchant. He's worse, though. He's worse. No, he's bad. He's the worst because he's letting people off that pull guns on people, pull knives on people. Well, the guy who did the Waukesha massacre had stabbed his girlfriend, and he was let out on like $1,000.

I thought he tried to run her over. Oh, he tried to run her over with a car. Yeah. Yeah, he tried to run her over with a car. And he was out on $1,000 bail. $1,000 bail. And then he killed 10 people. Then he mowed, which the media talked about it like it was a car. And he was out on a thousand dollars bail. Thousand dollar bail. And then he killed ten people. Then he mowed, which the media

talked about it like it was a car. Yeah, caused by an SUV. But he's out on a thousand dollars bail, ran over the mother of his children, girlfriend, whatever, and then came out and killed somebody. So these policies aren't working.

No. Not even remotely. No. Not even remotely. It's a problem. And the thing is they get funded and this is this was explained to me by the governor. Yeah. He was explaining to me how these people get funded and then they'll fund someone who's even more progressive to challenge that person.

Right. And it's almost like someone's trying to destroy these cities. Right. It's like San Francisco. San Francisco just made an about face. The mayor of San Francisco just called for an emergency. San Francisco's looking a little better. I was just there. It's starting to look a little better.

Well, she called for a state of emergency that's going to allow them to set up treatment centers, to clean up the streets. And with a state of emergency, she could just go in and start doing things. And so she's decided that she's going to put an end to things and i i hope it makes sense austin has issues too yeah but they're they they did make a lot of progress with some of the homeless encampments and things they did with that but the fucking murder rates up 178 percent yeah it's a problem last year it's they defund the police this is what happens you can't defund the police you This is what happens. You can't defund the police. You can't get rid of police. It's not a good idea.

It's not smart. You should have them. They should be accountable. They should be retrained. There should be many things instituted. They should maybe face penalties in civilian courts when they do something. It shouldn't be an internal slap on the wrist. That's how you get the CIA letting the pedophiles off.

So they should be subject to the same laws that they enforce. That being said, you get rid of them, you already have in LA, people are hiring private security. So really wealthy areas are now hiring their own private security. So that's the,

you know, this is what happens when you get rid of public, you know, and by the way, the private security is not going to be better than cops. They're unaccountable. Would you ever want... You may be against a war, but there's no argument that mercenaries, like the Blackwater, whatever they call it now, Z, like Eric Prince's company, there's no argument that they're going to be better than trained soldiers

because they're unaccountable. Well, most of them are trained soldiers that then move into the private sector. Yeah, but then they can do whatever they want. That's the whole purpose. It's the whole purpose, right? So if you get rid of a public, you're going to have an order somehow. If you get rid of this public police force, you're just going to have private police forces that are made up of maybe ex-military, ex-intel people, and they're not going to be accountable to anybody.

Yeah, none of this is a good idea. And the idea that you should get rid of the cops, like, okay, you'd have to go down the line. Is there a problem with any crime? So what do you want to do about that? No cops at all yeah well the argument is if we give money to um you know causes social justice causes right mental health care education um you know early intervention for all those things are valuable and valid, but they're not replacing, if a guy's trying to kill someone in a

house, who are you going to call? What's worse than that, because it actually ramps up crime because the criminals find out that there's no cops out there. The cops are toothless. And so they ramp, that's how you get all these smashing grabs. Do you see how they put razor wire around the Santa Monica

Promenade? Yeah. They put razor wire bales like it's a fucking high security prison to keep people from smash and grabbing because it's been that many. They have it around the Westfield Mall too in Century City. Yeah. It's crazy. The decay of Los Angeles

right before our eyes over two years has been fucking staggering. Well, it's Minnesota. It's Los Angeles, San Francisco. It's New York has problems. It's Chicago. It's Baltimore. If you look at the homicide rates in all these cities,

they're all going up. Yeah. They're all going up. Yeah, and they blame COVID. But they all have in common that they defunded the police departments. They all have that in common. Well, also, I there there's also a problem with the idea that you can have a civilization and a society

where people are you know we all want a respectable relationship with law enforcement. We all want people to be treated well. But you can't have a society where you have zero order. Because then order is going to be imposed. There's businesses that are like, gangs will will protect businesses right mafia will protect businesses like there's going to be some order in society there's going to be an organizing principle and if the state doesn't have a monopoly on violence you have kyle rittenhouse so you have people that are going to take it into their own hands you have vigilantism it's inevitable yep so that's the other problem

is you go okay you can't have a society where you go, violence is okay for the things we agree with, which is the craziest thing I've ever seen. And over the last couple of years, people go, oh, well, if you're on the right side of this political issue, you can throw that brick through a window. Punch a Nazi.

Punch a Nazi, you get to decide who's a Nazi. You get to decide whose property is to be respected and whose isn't. So if you get rid of that idea that we should have, you know, that you can't use violence, if you get rid of that idea, you're opening the gates of hell. You are. Is this complete total incompetence on the part of the lawmakers and of the politicians and of the people that are orchestrating this? Right. Or is there some manipulation behind the scenes that's designed to make the country fall apart so that people fall in line and that they comply easier because they're scared and because it's chaos. Well, it's probably both.

I don't know. Maybe. It's probably both. Probably both. Because people like China, these foreign entities do want America to collapse. Right? For sure. Why wouldn't you? Yeah.

And we also, at this point, the people that are running for things at this point in our decline are crazy. So the people that want to be in Congress now are insane. Yeah. For the, you know, look at all the jobs you could get. And you'd become a congressman? Right. Like, that's why a lot of these lunatics are like, you know, these are the showmen, the

crazy people, the guys like, let's all get AR-15s and sit in the living room. Yeah. You know, two days after a school shooting. I mean, it's like, have a little talk. Is that a congressman that did that? Yeah, like Thomas Massey, I think, did it. Where's he from? He did like my tweet because I said he couldn't afford a school shooting. I mean, it's like, have a little tact. Is that a congressman that did that? Yeah, Thomas Massey, I think, did it. Where's he from? He did like my tweet because I said he couldn't afford a whole couch.

They're sitting on a very tiny couch. He didn't like it? No, he liked it because I said, like, you spend all your money on guns, you can't afford a whole couch. They're sitting on this weird love seat. He hit the like button? Yeah, he hit the like. Because they're crazy.

They don't care anymore. They're all completely insane. Look at this. So they're on this little love seat because they can't afford a couch because they spent all their money on artillery. And I said that and he liked it. He liked my tweet. He's got solid trigger discipline though. Everybody does.

Not one person has their finger on the trigger. Yeah, but this is two days after. Yeah, not good. They had a school shooting. Not good. Where a 15-year-old heroic kid, this kid Tate Meyer, died trying to save. You know, you're putting up that photo like you know what it is. But this is the caliber of human being we have now in Congress.

And then- Everybody from Ilhan Omar to Marjorie Taylor Greene, all of them are, they act more like comedians. They want attention. They want to get a book deal. None of them seem interested in solving any of the problems. None of them. Yeah, that's a good point. None of them. No, they all want, because by the way,

the art of politics is some level of compromise. All of these people just have their brand and they get out. You know, Ilhan Omar or Cori Bush are just like, fuck Whitey, fine. On the other side, they're like, let's get the guns. So they all have their brands, and nobody has any interest in reaching across that. You think Cori Bush has ever said, fuck whitey, really?

Everything's white supremacy. Everything's white supremacy. Every single thing that ever happens that's not good in this country has to do with white supremacy. If she's in traffic, it's white supremacy. It's a completely unserious attempt to build any coalition. How do you build a coalition by telling people every day you're white, you have privilege, you didn't work hard for anything you earned. You're the problem. And we have to remake society and you have to apologize every single day that turns them

and makes them go you know what i'm gonna go with the guy sitting with the gun thanks i'll go with the guy with the gun on the couch if these people were serious about even attaining power at being but they're not i i think they don't want to get anything done they don't really care they just want to be as loud and as uh you know they want to just be as uh as as much of the picture as they can be they want to dominate they are like comedians in that one thing you'll see with certain comedians is they start to get a little bit of attention doing a certain thing and then they really leaned in yeah they become like hardcore right wing or hardcore left wing yeah well you know i mean you have marjorie telegreen and matt gates and that whole thing which is the q anon section of congress okay

matt gates q anon as well probably marjorie taylor green is hardcore she was like they make all these allusions to trump coming back i mean they know what they're doing right they know exactly what they're doing and then the other side you have the squad and then they know what they're doing. And then the other side, you have the squad, and then they know what they're doing. So you have these. And then in the vast center is just criminals who are insider trading and selling stock the minute they find out there's a pandemic. Well, Nancy Pelosi, when they asked her about that, we showed the video. They asked her about insider trading.

Should they stop congresspeople or members of doing any kind of trading, trading in individual stocks? Like, no to that. Yeah, they're Americans. It's open market. Yeah, it's an open market. We should be able to participate. She's worth $200 million.

She's a criminal, Chuck Schumer, all these people, yeah. Ted Cruz, like all these guys are not to be taken seriously. They're just not to be taken seriously they're just not to be taken seriously they are what we have they're what we have no one wants that job except crazy people well you know there's a few that aren't crazy there's a few interesting people that just want to be leaders but uh there's a lot of that that needing attention thing like you're saying it's totally true yeah what's it that Kristen Sinema in Arizona? Yeah. Who's the bisexual yoga chick with the green hair.

And she's just like, you know, listen, I don't, I don't, I don't know anything about the build back better act or whatever. I don't know too much about it. I don't think anybody knows about it. Right. But I don't feel like her opposition to it is like principled opposition. She wants attention. She goes, Fox news will hire me in two years and they'll

give me five million a year instead of sitting in Congress for a quarter million. I'll go get five. Absolutely. Of course. So she's leaning in to that direction because she used to be way more progressive, right? Of course. And then she's starting to accept money. Yeah, she goes, fuck it.

Megyn Kelly's out, I'm in. Kristen Sinema's in. I'll get a nice big house in that Olive Garden. She lives in California. It'll look like an Olive Garden. All those houses do in Arizona. And I'll sit there in my pool and I'll broadcast and I'll scream and yell and I'll get all this money. They do look like Olive Gardens.

They all do. Yeah. Why is that? I don't i don't this is you know because the people that live in them like eating there probably you know but this woman is not as serious this isn't like a serious public servant i mean it's laughable do you think they start off wanting to be a serious public servant and once they get in there they just realize it's horseshit it's a scam from the jump from the jump she goes i want to be jennifer aniston but i can't be what are the avenues in society that are available to me she goes i don't want to work at the local

office uh at geico what if these people are not qualified to do anything it wasn't the choice between her own tech company goldman second do you know what she used to do, Kristen Sinema before she was a, didn't she teach yoga? she's like an idiot that babbles about crystals and she goes you know what? I can become a congresswoman

which anyone can, I think I can well it says she had a master's sorry, became an adjunct professor teaching master's level policy and grant writing at Arizona State. No one cares. School of Social Work. Yeah, great. She's a teacher.

Fine. And an adjunct business law professor. And she got bored with that. She was bored with that. So she goes, you know what I'll do? Let me go to Congress and let me kick up some dust. And now that she's in Congress, she's like, I want out. What did they follow her into the bathroom about oh i don't know they're just yelling at her about the thing

that she won't pass the bill what was that the bill back better bill yeah but here's the thing about that bill who's read it isn't it thousands of pages long oh for sure but they're all every piece of legislation who's read any piece of legislation i've's read any piece of legislation? I've never read anything. I didn't read the Patriot Act when they said there's 19 new agencies and there's 15 color-coded levels of threat. Nobody reads anything. You remember that when they were like, it's code orange.

I don't know what Build Back Better is. I guess it's like, there's a lot of I think the controversial stuff is the energy stuff. They're going to tax people. Oh, that's right, for energy expenditure. Consumption taxes and stuff. Yeah, so if you drive a lot, you have to pay a tax on the amount of miles that you drive.

Which the problem with that is that's going to give the government access to your car. Because they're going to have to track that. So you're going to have to write down your miles. It hurts. When they did this in New York City, they put congestion taxes on the Ubers. They then raised their prices. People that were relying on that to get to work, now, because the subway

was not efficient, so you could go, I could trust the subway and then be late at that point, or you could go, I could get in this Uber pool or whatever. Unfortunately, that affected a lot of people in New York. It was more expensive to take an Uber to work.

So you had to go back to the bus and subway and hope that it was working. So that's, I think, in the Build Back Better Act, the problem is like, how much can regular people shoulder the burden of climate change? But that's the debate, right? Because if you do nothing, the problem with any sort of problem whether it's climate change or anything is then these industries pop up and offer themselves as a solution that's right and then they become like some sort of a they become self-sustaining sort of uh they become a like a a thing like a unit like a if you have climate change and then something comes along and says like we can solve climate change and then they become a consortium

it becomes some sort of a conglomeration or corporation now you have this thing that is uh it's got control of it and it's profiting off of climate change, just like we have with medical problems. We also know that the sacrifices that people are asked to make are never evenly distributed in society. Right. So if you come to people and say, hey, we'd like you to drive less.

We'd like you to use less energy. The same way with Gavin Newsom sitting there maskless at a dinner at the French Laundry, you go, oh, those rules are not the rules that I have to play by. Right. So I think people are inherently skeptical of these pushes to make people sacrifice because they go, wait a minute, but you guys still get private jets, right? Yeah. And you guys still get these massive conferences.

Yeah. And you guys still, I think everybody, well, not everybody, but the vast majority of sane people want a better environment. They want to safeguard an environment. But you got to figure out a way to do it that doesn't bankrupt people. Because people that don't have food don't have the luxury of worrying about the environment. Because they go, I can't provide for my family. But it does become an industry. And the climate change fighting industry will be an issue. Because then you're going to have a bunch of people working for them.

You're going to have a bunch of people that have a vested interest in making. Then you're going to have other individual industries that connect themselves to that, that start to fund it and become a part of it, whether it's electric cars or whatever it is. And then you have laws that are passed that penalize their opponents or penalize their competitors. It doesn't seem to, there doesn't seem to be an easy solution because everything becomes an industry. Well, it's also, everything becomes an industry. Everything becomes an industry. As soon as you, well, that's the thing about profit and politics and profit and what, the things that we're dealing with in this country in terms of like regulations. profit and what the things that we're dealing with in this country in terms of like regulations.

When you find out that regulations are passed and that the people who pass the regulations have relationships with businesses that are going to benefit from these regulations. Right. You got fuckery. Right. And when you have unchecked fuckery, that's called fraud. Yeah. That's a big part of American politics. Yeah.

Getting money out of politics is one of the most important things that anyone could ever do, and no one wants to do it. If you could stop special interest groups, stop corporations, stop any people like that, any groups like that from contributing to political campaigns, then people would make decisions based on different things. They would have to get donations from the people, from the individual people. And if that's all you got- Bernie Sanders did that. Yeah.

And they locked him out. They did lock him out. So they locked him out. He literally did that. He raised money grassroots. And then they literally plotted at the DNC as a way to keep him out. Yeah. Twice.

Twice. Yeah. They sandbagged him twice. Yeah. I mean, it's wild that he never stands up and yells about that. Well, I think he's not who people think he is.

I don't think... He's a good, solid dude, for sure. He's not a revolutionary guy. I don't believe he's... If you look at the things like, you know, he accepted a bunch of military industrial complex jobs in his own state. He, you know, was pretty party line on a lot of things.

And he departed from the orthodoxy on a few major things, the Iraq war and stuff. And we all know them. I think he's a principled guy. But I also don't, I don't think he, because what, if he was a revolutionary guy, he goes, no, fuck it, vote for Trump. Like he literally says, no, one of the party is rotten, and it needs to be completely overhauled, so either don't vote or whatever. But, like, he threw his support behind Hillary and then Biden quite obviously after he had been kind of sandbagged, and they had arranged this so that he was going to lose. He had the momentum, certainly the second time, for sure. For sure. And I just don't think he's a revolutionary guy.

I think he's a politician. He's been there 20, 30 years. Do you think they just thought that he couldn't beat Trump, or do you think that they thought that he was going to be a problem if he got into office? Because he would sandbag a lot of— Yeah, all of it. All of it. I mean, I think he's a guy, there's no photos of him on Epstein's Island.

Like he's not a guy that's played ball. He's not a play ball guy. Right. He's a guy that I think he was at the end of his life, he was old, so they can't hold that over his head, right? It's not like he's a young guy with a family dynasty that is trying to like preserve power for generations.

He's an old guy that believes in the same things he's believed his entire life. That guy could be very dangerous in the presidency. Do you think that there's another Epstein Island out there right now? 12. Better. Newer. Yeah. No, the kids go down a slide into a furnace.

It's a, no, no, no. I mean, are you nuts? Of course there's a better Yeah. No, the kids go down a slide into a furnace. No, no, no. I mean, are you nuts? Of course it's a better island. Oh, no. Marriott Bonvoy, whatever company that is now, they own every hotel in America. The Marriott Bonvoy. You know, they're dumb. Marriott owns everything.

Go to any hotel now that's just owned by Marriott. Really? They've taken over. They're building new islands every day for billionaire pedophiles. Absolutely. I think it says it on their website. They're quite proud of it. But these freaks don't stop being freaks.

So do they go cold turkey? Well, here's the deal. The blackmail now is online. They don't have to do the honeypots anymore. They can blackmail people online. They can just download porn on you. You can do all kinds of stuff. They can do things to your computer, like put porn on your computer.

For sure. And they know what you're into now because they can just download porn on your computer. You can do all kinds of stuff. They can do things to your computer, like put porn on your computer. And they know what you're into now because they can just hack everything. That being said, yeah, freaks are not going to stop being freaks. And illicit streams of money, which the whole Epstein story was about that. People forget about that. It's also about illicit streams of capital and where they go. Epstein was really good at hiding money for guys like Les Wexner, who we never speak about,

and all of these other billionaires. He was really good at that. That was what he was good at. And this money could come from drug running, money that is being sheltered from taxes, whatever. And was he good at that? Oh yeah, he was pretty good at it. Because Weinstein says that he doesn't know

what the fuck he's doing. And when it comes to capital and when it comes to finances, Weinstein said he was a fraud. He said when he met him, he was very clear right away this guy didn't know anything. I will withhold comment because I don't want anyone to have a breakdown. You mean Weinstein? Yeah. I don't think Epstein was... Listen, Epstein was good enough to get into the circles that he got into.

And I'm sure he knew a little bit about what was going on. Because I love Eric, but people say the same thing about Eric in his field, right? I don't think they say it about his field. They say it about his theory of everything. Whatever. People say it. So anyone can say anything about anyone. So what I'm here to defend is Jeffrey Epstein's good name.

And his... I'm not going to let the Weinsteins trample on Jeffrey Epstein. Supposedly Eric was going to get called to testify in his trial, but that's not true. That was a rumor on Twitter. Was that? Yeah, but I think it was just fake. Well, I mean, if

he knew something, that could help. But the trial, the Ghislaine Maxwell trial, is weird because it's a federal trial. So you don't get the transcripts. You don't get to see it. You get sketches, the weird drawings. They have no interest in uncovering what was happening outside of this very small look, right? Like this very tightly conceived picture of Jeffrey and Ghislaine, but they've

controlled it very well. They've controlled it very well and they're also like, well, why they're not really looking at it from 30,000 feet and going, okay, why was this happening with impunity forever? And how did they have all of these contacts? And everyone knows it was an intel

operation. every person knows what's that i was it's auto played video i didn't mean for that everyone knows that and they they the job of the media is to steer it away from that seeing what they're saying closing arguments let's hear what she has to say but it's cnn so they're probably lying right i just was saying you got to get information from all sources that That's why. First up is the prosecution. They will try to tie together the testimony of the 24 witnesses that they called at the trial. Four of them are accusers, women who say that they were sexually assaulted by Epstein when they were giving him massages. These women testified that Ghislaine Maxwell helped recruit them, helped arrange their travel and their massage appointments,

and at times participated in the alleged sexual assault. Then Maxwell's attorneys will have a turn to address the jury. They say that she has been scapegoated, that the only reason why she is on trial is because Jeffrey Epstein isn't. He died by suicide while awaiting trial. They're also expected to attack the credibility of these accusers, saying that they were motivated by money and that their memory of these events that took place more than 20 years ago is faulty.

Maxwell faces six charges and as much as 70 years in prison if convicted of all counts. Hmm. Yeah. I mean, she's going to be sacrificed or she's going to get out, but they're never going to let her out. I don't think she's getting out. They're never going to talk about the role that this played in how the world is run, which people don't want to talk about, right? arenas, tech, the government, and finance, all of these people are quite guilty or seemingly very guilty of these nefarious activities. They were being blackmailed.

They were being filmed. And well, does that have an impact on how the world is run? And nobody wants to have that conversation, but it very clearly does right. Who are the people that hold those videotapes and what do they want out of the people that were videotaped? Right. And that's a real question. Are there really videotapes? Is that real? There have to be. You think so? Well, there's, there's video equipment. What the hell's the point? You think he was just... Maybe they want to make a movie. Yeah, he wants to. He's collecting... He's a camera collector?

No, this... I believe this entire thing, and it's not that I believe it's well researched. This is very much the family business for the Maxwell family. They're an intelligence family. Dad was a super spy for the Mossad. He had a media empire.

He was a conglomerate in the UK. Her sisters are very deep in tech. And, you know, she ran the pedo ring. This in with powerful people. They call them access agents. You're an access. You provide me access to Bill Clinton. Well, Clinton likes women. And on the younger side, okay, we can get access to him. So by doing what they're doing and getting all this information, the problem is it destroys the idea that we're living in this society where people have a debate. The reason they can't get the bill back, they can't get the bill back at her act passed. The reason they can't get that act passed is because Jeffrey is dead.

Like if he could have blackmailed Joe Manchin, the act is passed. So truly, you know, this is what, this is the type of governing. Do you think that that's how it was used? Absolutely. So you think it was used by people to get whatever they were trying to get passed through? Absolutely. And whatever regulations dropped? I think if you're a billionaire and you have a corporation and you have interests, do you want some, you know, senator or congressman from a small, tiny state getting in the way of your ability to make money?

No. So what do you do? You got to leverage, you got to use leverage to get them to do what you want them to do. But then if that's the case, what about the scientists? Well, he was a freak. That's the other thing. Epstein, well, it was very, a lot of the scientists were

very brilliant top of their field guys. He was curious about like seeding, starting a new human race. I mean, yeah, Epstein wanted to start a new race. I mean, it was crazy. What are you talking about? No, this is well-documented. He wanted to start a new race of people? He wanted to seed the planet with his offspring.

What? He was nuts. Did he have children? He was an eccentric. He did not have children. So he was just one of those guys that talks about working out but never does? That's right. But guys like Bill Gates and these guys, they're also, obviously everything now is tech.

Everything is tech. Every company to some degree is a tech company. So Epstein cozying up with tech people, you see when the blackmail operation goes from nuts and bolts honeypot to oh the future of this will very much be tech and that's why you see him cozying up with all of those tech people it's not an accident look at this yeah jeffrey epstein hoped to seed human wraiths with his dna but how do you know this isn't just one of those stories that they write about him after he's dead or while he's arrested because they want to smear him. At least he's still alive at this point, I think.

Yeah, or while he's arrested, like I said. I mean, I think it's a conceivable thing that he'd want to do. Yeah. He's an eccentric guy around very interesting, intelligent people, and I'm sure this comes up. I just think the scientist aspect is very strange because there was a lot of them. There was a lot of them There was a lot of like top flight scientists, and I'm wondering if He tried to compromise them for sure so that he could get them to distort data Yeah, you know I'm saying or get them to tell like if you had a government agency

There was an intelligence agency and they wanted to get something passed and you had access to all these scientists, you could compromise the scientists and then say, look, you don't have to include that part. How about you stand up for this and come up with a reason why this is a good idea? 100%. I think it always worked like that. I think by getting, and by the way, after his, you know, conviction for whatever he got convicted for and he served a time you know like club fed down down there um even a dinner with somebody was compromising them because you know you're now with this guy right you didn't want that to be out in the open so i think his his job was to basically get as much information as he could and get as much leverage as he could now for who much leverage as he could.

Now for who? That's the question. Yeah, that is the question. It's just wild how many people hung out with him after he had got arrested and then prosecuted and then convicted of being a pedophile. Well, you made that good point about Roman Polanski. You know, a lot of people went out and defended Roman Polanski and said, hey, you know, he's a great director.

I'm sure they were like, Jeffrey got a massage. Well, you know, because you can hear it secondhand. Rich people like secondhand will be like, yeah, he got a massage from a girl. Turns out she was underage. That's probably what was said. Right. I mean, and also they know, but nobody in that world wants to get too down the rabbit hole because they all know that people die. That's the other thing.

People disappear. all these intelligence connections that are all over the world and their friends are presidents and kings and queens and prime minister. If you get an invitation, a lot of times you take it. Well, the way we do it here is so much less dangerous to folks like that than the way they do it in China. Right. Which is why China will win. China is... They're ruthless.

They're so ruthless that they got Amazon... Shout out to China, by the way. Shout out to China. Shout out to China. They got Amazon to take down everything except five-star reviews of Xi Jinping's new book. Have you seen that? No, but that's amazing. Pull that up. But I bet it's a good book.

That is how you say it, right? Xi Jinping? Yes. And fuck the people that are slandering that, because I bet it is a good book. Do you think it's a five-star book or a four-and-a-half-star book? I bet it's a five-star book. Yeah. And if China wants to compete with Patreon, they can DM me.

I'll be the first show on China's new streaming service. You just can't criticize China ever. Who would want to criticize China? John Cena. I love it. I had a friend there that moved there to teach English, and it's great. Really?

Sometimes there's homeless people, and then sometimes there's not, because then they're in the river. Amazon partnered with China propaganda arm. Yeah, but about the book. Is this about the book? Yeah, yeah. I mean, the headline on another website linked to this.

I mean, they took the headline and made it different. Okay, so Amazon reportedly took down reviews of Chinese president's book after demands. Amazon.com currently offers Ji's book with positive reviews from Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and HuffPost. Whoa. What's interesting about the way they do it over there is if a billionaire steps out of line, they either lock them, they just get them. Yeah. They go get them.

They go get them. And either they kill them. Yeah. Or they throw them in some prison somewhere and you never hear from them again. Right. And they just take turns fucking them. Yeah. Or they make him eat his children.

And Saudi Arabia did that where they locked everyone up in the rich colony. Like that seems to be the Only way to get these people in line. Yeah Well, they do it they do it over in China in a very ruthless way and they they almost did it with Jack Ma, right? They made him disappear for a few months. Yeah, then he came back. He was you know, well, they have one ruling family and they're like we are the law and Even though you have a lot of money you can't displease us yeah yeah it's pretty wild it is pretty wild but when you run a country like that

you go how do you beat them it's how do you be a country that runs like a corporation with one ruling party that goes not just a corporation but a corporation that has access to all the information that gets distributed yes like they've they've literally locked up the internet they don't have the regular internet over there and they have a billion people and they have a billion people it's going to be tough to beat them do we jump ship now will there be rewards for us jumping ship is the question i think we're going to become them. You know what I mean? I think that's going to be the argument for competing with China. Because we have to become them.

Social credit score system, that kind of shit. The journalist Whitney Webb I've had on my show said that there was a real push years ago saying that if we want to keep our supremacy in the fields of AI and automation and things like that, we have to develop these systems and implement them before China does. And they are all, you know, Chinese type of social credit score systems and surveillance

systems and things like that. So that's a very probable outcome is that in order to, we got to come up with this technology and export it to the rest of the world before China does. Did you see the thing that Sager did about the company in China where they were working, they sold 51% of the company to China? Yes.

They work in the AR sector and they just stole all of their intellectual property and changed the name of the company and said, fuck you. Yeah. Now it's Chinese and it's amazing. Yeah. Did you see that Obama documentary on Netflix about the Chinese buys the American company?

No. And then the Chinese people come over here and they're like, you're so fat. Because everyone's like fat and slow. And China's like, you got to lose weight and start working hard. What is this? It's called American Factory. Right, Jamie? It's called American Factory.

The Obamas produce it. It's about a chinese company that like buys in america and they come over here to america fiction no it is real it's a documentary about what company i forget it's a chinese company that they come over here and they start it's it's kind of crazy in fact here watch this yeah give me some. This project is going to help grow this community, give people jobs, and give a future to your kids and my kids. Wow, they changed the name of the streets to Chinese names. It's crazy. It used to be a General Motors plant, and now there are over 1,000 employees working here.

Is this a union shop? It is our desire to not be. What's our slogan? To stand still is to move back. We hope someday to get this good. I hope someday to get this good. One of the most fascinating American documentaries released this decade. There have been 11 complaints filed. Some workers claim unsafe working conditions and unfair treatment.

Doing the same thing over and over again. That wears on your body and your soul. It says we're under enormous pressure here. They told me that they had to be here two years, away from their family, no extra pay. I've aided their house, they've aided my home. We've just bonded. I really admire Americans. They can work two jobs.

I thought they didn't have to make any sacrifices. So this is, what company is this that this is documenting? It seems like it's an auto company, right? What a Chinese billionaire, see it go down, Jimmy? It says, what a Chinese billionaire reopens a factory and hires 2,000 blue-collar Americans. Early days of hope and optimism give way to setbacks

as high-tech China clashes with working-class America. So what's weird is that we have American billionaires, not that you have a Chinese billionaire coming in and reopening a factory in America

and hiring Americans. Yeah, I thought it was in Ohio. Yeah. I've heard of this plant. So, I mean, good luck, everybody. Jesus Christ. Oh, it is Ohio. Post-industrial Ohio.

Oh, it's Ohio. Enough already, Jamie. We get it. It's the most important state in America. He gets very excited when you talk about Ohio. All he cares about is Ohio. It's a dump. He doesn't want to move back there.

I'm kidding. I do like it. Notice he doesn't want to move there? No, I mean, Ohio is, I mean, come on. I like it. Great audience. Great pizza. Stop.

He keeps saying that they have the best pizza. He's mentally ill. They have good ice cream. Grater's ice cream. Black raspberry is good. New York has the best pizza. New York. Are we in agreement?

New York is the best pizza. And Connecticut's very good, too. Okay. New York and Connecticut. Do you think Ohio can fuck with New York when it comes to pizza? Yeah. Yeah, that's not good. You should go to a doctor. I will say the one thing about Austin. The barbecue here is

you can't get better barbecue in America. It's not possible. And I've been to Kansas City and I've been to all these places. It's not possible. It's the one thing in terms of food that there's no better barbecue than Austin barbecue. No better. It's really amazing. Terry Blacks, Franklin.

How do you get better? Yeah. La Barbecue. Yeah. La Barbecue, amazing. Very good. They're all good. You just get different.

You don't get better. It's true. It's very good. I will say that I went to Kansas City, I went to all these places, and I went, not impressed. Yeah. I mean, they have good barbecue in other places, but I think this is the best. This is the best. Yeah.

The food here is fucking insane. There is some good food here. Sure, for sure. There's a lot of good food here. They have absolutely the best sushi place on earth here. Have you been to Sushi Bar ATX? No, because you mentioned it, and now it's a four-year wait. Well, why don't you call your friend Joe, and I'll get you hooked up.

I like how he goes, have you been there? I'm like, no, I've tried to go. There's 19 years. Why didn't you ask me? Why didn't you ask me? I should ask you. Yeah. I like how he goes have you been there? I'm like no I've tried to go there's 19 years. Why didn't you ask me? I should ask you. Yeah. I don't want to bother you. You don't have to bother me you're my friend too. I know but it's funny when you say that he's like have you been there? I'm like no no one can go

anymore. It's just you and Elon Musk in a spaceship landing and they give you a spicy tuna roll then you go back up. You know? Did you see where they were trying to shame Elon for living in a nice house that's not even his? Have you seen this article? Yeah, I mean, it's silly, but I think Elon likes...

Doesn't he like this? No, he doesn't. He doesn't like this? I was texting with him about this. Doesn't he go on Twitter all the time for this reason? He likes to fuck with people. I think he likes this. In that way, but he...

And the house is not that nice, by the way. With all due respect, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Well, here's the thing. He could buy 150 of those. Perhaps. Elon Musk says he lives in a $50,000 tiny house. Is he actually living at his friend's Austin mansion?

Listen, I know for a fact he doesn't live there. He stayed there for a while when he first came to Austin. Right. He does not live there. Right. And not only that, even if he did, it's not even his house. Right. So you're giving the richest guy on planet Earth a hard time.

Right. Because he might have stayed in a nice house that wasn't his. It's stupid. But it's so crazy. It's silly. What do you want him to do with that money? He's literally the richest guy in the world. So what do you want him to do?

Do you think he shouldn't live in a nice house on Austin? I don't think that. But I think people, we're at a point now where there's such a vast chasm between people that have a lot of money and the people of nothing, right? Right. And he's become kind of a symbol of that. So is Bezos because they're literally now flying rockets into space. Yeah.

So while all the while you have all of these other problems and all of these other issues. So, you know, obviously people are going to and I think he likes the attention. This is not a guy that doesn't want to be famous. He loves fame. 100%. You don't agree? I don't know if he loves it. I think he comes with the job and I don't think he minds it. Oh, I think he quite enjoys it.

I mean, he seems to have fun. Do you think he pursues it? He definitely has fun, but he has fun with a lot of things. Is Warren Buffett tweeting every day like this? No, but Warren Buffett is not also inventing 50 different things at the same time. He's a multi-billionaire. He is, but he's an investor. Sure. Elon Musk is digging tunnels under cities and shooting rockets into space and revolutionizing electric cars.

Where are the tunnels? Well, there's one from Vegas to L.A. Have you seen it? I've not seen it, and we don't need one. That tunnel should collapse with everyone going from Vegas to fucking LA. That tunnel should collapse. I think he likes it. I think he

likes being kind of the, you know, the bad boy Jetsons. He's like a Jetsons character. Did I tell you about when I went to Vegas with Whitney and we got stranded there and we had to drive all the way back and Lex Friedman... First of all, why did you even you got in a plane with Whitney? Yeah, it was a good time.

No? You wouldn't do it? Her energy is so bad that I would think all the engines would fail. Like, I love Whitney but I'm just, when I'm around her I'm terrified that, you know. I got a video that we have to play on the podcast because it's so extraordinary. What was she doing in Vegas?

She had a gig. And so I introduced her at the gig. What was she doing in Vegas? She had a gig. And so I introduced her at the gig. What is she doing with these gigs? Doesn't she have enough money? She doesn't have enough money. She wants more money. She has tens of millions of dollars. She wants more.

So weird. That's not how I feel. She does these weird gigs. I'm like, why don't you just relax? I would do those weird gigs too. No. I mean, this is crazy. No, no, no, no.

It's a good move. Here, Jamie, I'm going to send- It's a good move. Yeah, yeah, yeah'm going to send- It's a good move. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to send you this. So we're at Andrew Schultz's wedding. Yes. Thanks for the invite.

I'm kidding. Listen, it's not my wedding. No, nobody- You can come to my wedding. None of us comedians got invited, but that's okay. Is it getting to you, Jamie? Not yet. It says-

Oh, there you go. Okay. Hold on. There you go. It went away. Okay. Hold on. How was the food at the wedding? It looked a beautiful wedding. It was actually a sushi bar. Oh, that you go. Okay. Hold on. There you go. It went away. Okay. Hold on. How was the food at the wedding?

It looked a beautiful wedding. It was actually a sushi bar. Oh, that's cool. Sushi bar is a Montecito spot. That's kind of cool. They served fantastic sushi. It really did look like a beautiful wedding, and I'm very happy for him. Is it coming through, Jamie?

I don't know. It says sending. There you go. Okay. It was awesome. Yeah, it looked cool. We got a little lit. Yeah.

Me and the wife and Lex Friedman and Whitney. Lex Friedman, yeah. And we decided to fly. So Lex Friedman decided to not eat for 30 hours and drink bottles of whiskey. What is his thing? He was so blasted. So at the end of the night, we wind up, let me just, before you play this, at the end of the night, we wind up stranded in Vegas because Whitney got a private jet to get there.

And then once they got her to the thing, they're like, get the fuck out of here. She did the gig. And then there's supposed to be a jet home. We got to the airport. They're like, there's no one here. There's no crew. She tried to blame it on vaccine mandates. The jet's broken.

She's like, well, nobody wants to fly because of the vax. I'm like, you just probably didn't book. It's the jankiest jet ever. Yeah, you didn't book an actual thing. Yeah, wheels up. So take a look at this. Play this. Oh, hello.

I've been out here in Vegas. I went to Andrew Schultz's wedding. I went to Andrew Schultz's wedding and Whitney Cummings and my wife and Lex Friedman. And then we went to Vegas. And Lex. Oh, my God. Got a little drunk. He looks like he just got the booster No I'm not drunk

I'm wide awake And I'm drinking coffee This is at 2 in the morning by the way So now what did you guys do If you can't get back in the plane We had to get a drive We had someone to drive us back To LA

Yes 4 hours 4 hours In like an Esator or something? Yeah, SUV. It's carbon, yeah. Four hours. That's crazy.

That was the only way to get back. Crazy. Yeah, they were like, we can't get you any flights. And the airport was closed because it was after midnight. So there's no flights back. They don't fly out of Vegas late at night. They're like, fuck you, stay. Stay and lose money.

So you just stay. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. When you were in California, did you miss it a little? No. None. Montecito's gorgeous, though. It's beautiful. You didn't miss it a little bit.

You didn't think about how fun it would be to have a home invasion. You'd kill that guy. That old bitch got shot, Joe. You would kill that guy. Think about it. I don't want to kill anybody, Tim. I understand that, but you can. That old bitch wasn't ready. You're ready. You think I'm ready? You're ready.

Thank you. I'm just saying. Well, I went to California. Did a little shooting. Bang, bang, bang. Went to Terran Tactical. Got some training in. Did you go to Felix? I know you go to Felix. It's very good. Oh my God, it's good. You want to see pictures? Yes. Show pictures. It's great.

The food is fucking fantastic. Get him to open something Felix. It's very good. Oh, my God. It's good. You want to see pictures? Yes. I'll show pictures. It's great. The food is fucking fantastic. Get him to open something here. He's actually thinking about it because they keep fucking with him. They keep fucking. And the mandates are out of control. Well, it's also this is probably a good city where people should open. They could open a restaurant here because there's definitely room. Yeah.

There's room. There's room. Especially if you did it on 6th Street. Sure. There's so much fucking open real room. Yeah. You know? There's room. There's room. Especially if you did it on 6th Street. Sure. There's so much fucking open real estate. Yeah. So much available stuff. Grab some.

And it's got a great food culture. There's so many people that like to go. People like to eat. They like to eat. Try to get into Red Ash out here, too. It's hard, yeah. It's fucking hard. Yeah, there's a lot of places.

And then they have J. Carver's, his new place. Yeah. There's a lot of great fucking restaurants out here, man. Yeah. Jeffries. Have you been to Jeffries yet? I haven't been to Jeffries. Sensational.

I think there's a lot of room, too, though, for people that are trying to open stuff up if they can do it, and they have a name in LA. They come out here, and as the city grows, their restaurant will grow. Yes. Yeah, I think so, for sure. For sure. This place is booming, and it's. Yes. Yeah, I think so for sure. For sure. This place is booming and it's just begun.

Well, this is Miami. What's interesting is that Austin and Miami became these pandemic destinations that are actually now, you know, you have a huge tech influx to Austin. Goldman Sachs is moving their wealth management division down to Miami. Cathie Wood's ARK Investments moved down to St. Petersburg, Florida, like New York and LA, which I'm, listen, I was always of the mind that those cities would always be the two big cities. I think we all were. But I think that now you are starting, I don't know what that will result in, but you are seeing a lot of people leave those cities.

Well, don't you think a lot of it has to do with taxes? It doesn't make sense financially to stay in those cities. Because you used to get a tax incentive. They used to get, even though the state taxes were high, you used to be able to take that state tax off of your federal tax. Yeah, for sure. You can't do that anymore. And that was something that was changed by Trump, apparently. You would know better than I would.

I think it's coming back where you're going to be able to do that. But I think it's coming back where you're gonna be able to do that But I think it's twofold right I think it's taxes. I also think quality of life right now whether you No matter how much into the crypto stuff you are or not It's a massive disruption right like blockchain technology is massive disruption Yeah, and a lot of the people that are into it are like, why am I going to live with this brand new technology that's revolutionizing and has the potential to revolutionize stuff? Why am I going to live in the same city?

Why am I going to live in the same old city? Why not be part of a city? And you're never going to impact New York. You're not going to impact LA, but a lot of people are going, I want to be part of a city and help that city grow and really have an outsized influence in that part of the world. You can definitely do that here. You can do it here. You can do it. A lot of crypto people moving to Miami.

Some of them are in Puerto Rico. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Puerto Rican thing is interesting. 4% taxes. Gordon Ryan was explaining it to me last night. The Paul brothers.

Yeah. And then the Paul brothers are doing that They spend 50% of their time in the States 50% of their time there Taxes you don't have to pay at all. Yeah. Yeah, I think if people if the taxes in LA went to things that made sense People wouldn't have a problem. I would no problem with it problem is that You know, you can't collect record taxes from people and then have every measurable standard of life get worse. A lot worse. That can't happen.

Yeah, it can't happen. And the thing about Austin that I've loved more than anything is the people are more relaxed and friendly here. Is that true? 100%. Who was mean to you in LA? They're just weird. I would see people around you and you were always treated like a god. This is my one thing you say that.

You're like, people are friendlier in Texas. I've never seen anyone be anything but very happy to see you in LA. It's not like people... Yeah, but it's not like I don't know that people aren't nice. Like I see the way they talk to other people. Sure. I see the way they talk to me if they don't know who I am.

Yeah. You know, that- The people here are friendly, but I think people everywhere are kind of friendly, right? You think so? I think they're tense in LA. I think there's too much traffic and too many people. Yeah, but the traffic's coming here. I mean, you got to be careful what you wish for. It's a joke.

It's going to not be a joke. It's a joke. It'll not be a joke soon. It's a joke. Keep telling everyone how great it is. I leave here at five o'clock all the time. It's like, la-di-da, I'm home in 10 minutes. It ain't shit.

Sure, but I think that, you know, you were treated nicely in L.A. People liked you in L.A. Do you think that people are nicer here? It's hard to know. I think people are sweet everywhere, and then people suck everywhere. I don't think there's a real...

I've never noticed a Huge difference between the way people act I think people in New York want things very quick Yeah, but they're not dicks. They just want things very quick. Kelly's a little more laid-back I don't think that the man on 6th Street who stabbed me last week was very sweet The guy who ran up to me and just- You don't stand still on 6th Street. You got to keep walking. Yeah.

But I mean, listen, there's tremendous potential in the city. The city has some issues like everything else. Yeah. But there's some issues. There's issues whenever you get giant groups of people together. That's right. But I think there's less issues when you get a million versus when you get 20 million. Well, you're going to have more than a million here soon.

You get like 400 something people moving here every day is that true 400 yeah where are they going i don't know not your neighborhood no i tried to tell tony hitchcock to buy a house and he's like oh i don't know i don't know if i should spend this kind of money i go it'll be worth more money in the future i'm like okay just be poor forever yeah figure it out come on man you got money yeah he should buy something buy a fucking house let's get this nice house he's like i don't know if i can go for it i'm like fucking go for it what do you want to rent forever yeah come on interesting if all these people are moving here then it's a good investment it's a nice house for sure i think

that owning an estate that is uh a texas or florida Florida is great. Yeah, Texas or Florida. A lot of people are moving to Florida too. Maybe even more people are moving to Florida, I think, than here. I think it's good to have a spot in those two places. Yeah. Yeah, you know? At least I love New York and L.A. too,

and hopefully they get their act together. And you've been touring everywhere, right? I've been everywhere. The stark difference between some cities It's so strange You go to some cities And everybody's in a frothy panic And you go to other cities It's like the world is completely normal

I think now we're in like a malaise Where people are like They don't know what's going on They have like the mask is hanging off Like what I've seen now Is it's like much more It's not as starkly different as it was before Like it was very stark for a while

You go to Nashville and San Francisco and Nashville's like, woo! And San Francisco's like, ah! Now I feel like it's kind of a malaise where everybody's like, hey man, what the hell? Like people are kind of starting to just enter into this broken spirit. People now just have a broken spirit everywhere.

You just did San Francisco, right? I loved it, yeah. What was it like hanging out in the city it's fine do they have vaccine mandates for food and everything for restaurants

yes yeah for they made me show my thing when I had a a quesadilla um they they

it's funny but it was no I mean again supposedly the crime there is going up I'm sure it is I didn't see any of it.

Like, we were in the cash show, the Tenderloin. We were just driving around looking after the show for what was open. We ended up at a great Chinese food spot there. But did you have to show a vaccine card to eat there? No, we ate at a hotel. We just grabbed it and left. It was late. But I didn't see, I didn't feel unsafe there.

But I'm sure that in certain areas you would feel unsafe. So it didn't feel any different than normal San Francisco to you? Not really. Like I could see where the issues are. L.A. has felt the most different when it was like, you know, because you really, L.A. is so big. And you have to drive. So if you have a friend's so big and you have to drive. So if you have a friend somewhere else, you got to drive 30 minutes. And in that 30 minutes, you can see a massive display of problems in LA.

That's, I think, the difference. San Fran's a small city, so there's problems. But LA, like, you're like, okay, get in your car. And like five minutes in, you're like, Jesus. You know, you're like, that seems to be where I've noticed the stark differences the most. But supposedly they've cleaned up Venice. They're cleaning things up. What?

The beach? The encampments and stuff. Really? Yeah. Interesting. Oh, yeah. I was just there. No, people can't do it.

People have had enough. Yeah, they have had enough, but just like how long does that last? Like how much change can't do it. People have had enough. Yeah, they have had enough, but just how long does that last? How much change can they do? What's the timeline before things get back to 2018 levels? What's the timeline? Is it 10 years? That's a great question. Because that's probably a realistic assessment.

If you really thought about how much time it takes to bring a city back to where it was before the pandemic. Well, you also look at like if New York and L.A. go down, it's kind of like the country's in real trouble. New York's never going to go down. L.A. has more of a chance of going down because so many people there are transient in the first place. That's right. It's a different kind of environment in L.A. There's very few people that are proud to be from L.A. Not very few, but like less percentage.

There's a lot of people who are proud to be from New York, and they don't want to let anybody take New York away from them. And they have a lot of hope in Eric Abrams. Yes. Eric Adams? Eric Adams. Adams, Abrams, something. Which one?

Eric Adams. Adams. I believe. Eric Adams, who is the former police officer who's now the mayor, and a lot of people have hope for him because he's a Democrat, but he's also tough on crime. Eric Adams, who is the former police officer who's now the mayor. And a lot of people have hope for him because he's a Democrat, but he's also tough on crime. And so they think that when he takes over- If New York goes down, you're looking at the country going down. New York is the crown jewel of America in terms of cities, right?

Right. But with one of the worst fucking mayors that has ever existed. The worst, maybe worst politician in history. He's horrible. He's got a fake name. Yeah, he's very, very bad. Somehow or another- He doesn't care.

What was his name again? Wilhelm? Warren Wilhelm. Warren Wilhelm became Bill de Blasio? He's a joke. It's very bad. He's a strange guy, man. Yeah, he's a freak.

And there's $850 million missing. Do you know about that? No. His wife had some mental health initiative and they raised 850 million dollars. It's unaccounted for I Didn't hear that. Oh, yeah, you need to see this I bet Google this Yeah, because it's one of those things people in New York keep bringing up my friend John Joseph Kim keeps bringing this up Yeah, I did this guy in his wife or somehow or another if

misappropriated or lost count of or lost track of an enormous sum of money that was supposed to go to mental health. Right. Well, as they would say. What happens with that? I mean, how does someone not go to jail? Here it is. Where has $850 million gone? Bill de Blasio's wife can't account for a staggering amount of taxpayer money

that the New York mayor gave her for a mental health project. She's assigned an $850 million budget for a Thrive New York City program. But records show Scheme has failed to keep track of what it spent the money on. A small amount of data that was collected shows it fell far short of targets. Despite that, organizers have expanded the budget to $1 billion over five years. That is what happens when terrible politicians

control enormous sums of wealth with impunity in one of the greatest cities the world's ever known. Yeah, it's crazy. Nearly $100 billion stolen from COVID-19 relief programs, Secret Service says. That, it's crazy. Nearly 100 billion stolen from COVID-19 relief programs, Secret Service says. That's even a minimum.

A minimum of nearly 100 billion has been stolen from government COVID-19 relief programs set up to help businesses and people who lost their jobs due to the pandemic, according to the U.S. Secret Service. Isn't the Secret Service supposed to be protecting the president? Why are they looking for the money that they gave for COVID-19?

There's like some financial harm, too. Okay. Small business administration's Roy Dodson, agency's national pandemic fraud recovery coordinator, in an interview. The Secret Service didn't include COVID-19 fraud cases prosecuted by the Justice Department, where roughly 3% of the $3.4 trillion in COVID-19 relief dispersed

by the government, the amount stolen from the pandemic benefits shows the sheer size of the pot is enticing to the criminals, Dotson said. It's too much to pay attention to. It's the grift at the end. It's the grift at the end. It's just people are just like, everybody right now is just trying to steal the last amount of money they can. There's nobody really has any faith in anything.

They're just like, what can we grab? Is this the end of the empire? It's the middle of the end. It's like not even the beginning of the end. Well, it is the winter of death. Yeah. Have you seen that? Yeah.

The Biden. For the unvaccinated, the winter of death. Yeah, the winter of death. And you're going to overwhelm the hospital The Biden. For the unvaccinated, the winter of death. Yeah, the winter of death. And you're going to overwhelm the hospital. Slightly negative. It was a negative. It doesn't seem like leadership. Well, what's weird is that they've also said this is kind of a mild variant.

Yeah. It's not going to. Well, they're ramping it up in the light of the most mild variant ever. Literally one person has died in the United States and now they've taken that back and they're not saying he died from COVID. The guy had a series of serious health problems, and he also tested positive for COVID, the Omicron variant, when he died. But the Omicron variant, according to most people's assessment, is basically a cold.

Smiled, yeah. You don't lose a sense of smell. You don't lose, you're not getting the fevers. You're just getting cold coughs and headaches and body aches. You're not getting the fevers. You're just getting cold coughs and headaches and body aches. We're all at the point now with this where we've all hit the wall. I think people are just kind of tired, and it's become confusing to people on a level that is far and away.

When this started, people were like, well, we've got've got this thing we're gonna do what we have to do hopefully there'll be a treatment some vaccine whatever it would be now there's 20 vaccines half of them work there's 10 treatments some of them are good some of them aren't if you bring them up people will accuse you of you know uh being a colluding with whatever like you know the masks work and they don't work. People are just tired. Everybody's tired. If this was a shitty movie, I'd be really tempted to fast forward to about five minutes before the end where you see the

Chinese soldiers in hazmat suits with gray skies carrying machine guns moving across Chicago. I'm hoping for that. By the way, the idea that they wouldn't run the country better is crazy. I think maybe that's our only hope. South Africa's huge Omicron wave appears to be subsiding just as quickly as it grew.

Yeah, it burns through people. And that's the idea about these viruses that as they—most viruses. It's not a universal truth, but most viruses, as they mutate, they become less virulent and more contagious. Right. And this is the best example of that. This is like extremely contagious and not virulent at all. I just hope that when the pandemic ends, we can still hear from Fauci. I want to still hear from him.

He's never going to go away now. Check him. He's 80. On my show, the real pandemic is vanity, you know? And that's, you know, he's been, he should have resigned. Somebody else should be doing the job. I mean, it's silly. He's not good at it.

No, but his attitude is, well, this is my whole, you know, my whole life. He's science. He says, I'm science. You criticize. If you criticize Anthony Fauci. This has been a mess from the jump, and I think people are just tired of it. And we need to move on from this to what will eventually be the total economic collapse coming in six months. What are we looking at in six years?

If I could put you in a Rip Van Winkle capsule and pop you out in six years, what are we seeing? Another, an economic crash. Another one. A crash. Another one? A crash. Like a serious haircut. Is there a bubble that needs to burst? I don't know. You tell me.

There's people selling pictures of dogs to each other for $80 million online. You tell me if there's a bubble. Look, I got an NFT right there. Yeah, I like that one. That's pretty. That makes sense. The Beeple stuff makes sense to me. I think the NFT technology is great, and I think that a lot of it's going to really be

100% the way digital art, digital real estate and stuff. But yeah, there's a bubble. Our interest rates have been artificially low forever. You can get a 30-year mortgage right now, sub three, which is great. Sub three and a non-adjustable non-adjustable well you could get you could do a fixed rate might be in the low three but i mean it's crazy the amount of free money that's out there right now you have that coupled with the fact that we are in how many what's the national debt number now 20 trillion i mean I mean, it's silly. 80% of dollars in circulation were printed in like the last 24 months or something. There's some crazy statistic like that.

Yeah. What? Oh, yeah. 80%? Something very high. Jamie can tell you. And so this is to deal with the inflation because of COVID. Yeah. Yeah.

So in terms of when is all of that going to self-correct and how much blood is in the water and how painful that is? Yeah. For sure. I mean, there's no way we get out of this without a real issue. So do you think that manufacturing has to come back to America? That'll never happen. Never? Never. I don't think you're going to see large-scale manufacturing in this country ever again. Really?

Yeah. Do you think it's because of the environmental impact of large-scale manufacturing or the financial or the both? I think it's just labor costs are going to go where labor jobs go where the costs are lower, and they'll never be lower here. But I think we need another. Yeah, 40% of U.S. dollars in existence were printed in the last 12 months. Jesus Christ. So, I mean, that's a problem. That's crazy. But that's a problem. That's...

Is America repeating the same mistake of 1921 Weimar, Germany? Yeah, Weimar, Germany. Bad. So, in terms of what's going to happen in the next six years, I mean, there's probably no way we avoid... You know, there's going to be a crash. China and Russia must be sitting back

licking their chops right now, just going, look at this. Time is now. Well, that's why we need to go. That's why we need another scam. And the NFT thing's big and we need it. Look at the national debt. Look at it run.

We need crypto. We need Bitcoin. We need Ethereum. We need you to back a coin and stop sitting on the sidelines and actually get in and back a coin. Do you want to save the economy or not? I don't know if there's too many coins. How do you know who's going to use what? You need a coin, then you let everyone buy your merch with that coin. Oh, fuck that.

Buy tickets to your shows with that coin. That's nonsense. You have to believe. Why? Because if you don't believe in your own coin, why am I going to believe it? I'd rather stay in the Ponzi scheme forever and ever and ever. No, no, no, no, no. We need a decentralized financial instrument.

Okay. How do we do that? Well, we have a- Which one do you back? Well, I have a Bitcoin. I have one Bitcoin and I have five Ethereum. I'm a huge player in the crypto market. I'm very big.

What about Dogecoin? I don't have any Dogecoin. But it's right there. Yeah. Look at the little cute fellow. Yeah, that is kind of cute. Is that, so that's it? NFT? That's a giga Chad. How much is that? How much does it cost? We don't know it was free. It was a gift

It only cost what people are willing to spend but I'm just saying you got to get involved right now because creators I'm telling you This is the next move you're gonna be able to sell your jokes One joke for however much money trying to squirrel away an enormous sum of money and never work again. I understand. First of all, I believe you could have retired at like 27 and never worked again. Truly. So this idea that you have to keep, but no, you got to get into crypto. I have a well, I have like, there's a lot of people that I have to pay.

There's a lot of people that I have to pay. Artist Pack just sold 266,445 shares of an NFT for $91.8 million on Nifty Gateway, making him arguably pricier than Jeff Koons. That's right. Nifty Gateway, the Winklevoss twins. 30,000 buyers bought portions of the work, which could, in theory, be merged into a single NFT. What does that even fucking mean? It means by ignoring this, you're leaving a lot of money on the table. Is that his NFT?

It looks like three moons. That's probably a picture of one. To be honest. That's his NFT? It gets real complicated. But yeah, there's 30,000 of them available. If you bought 10 of them, you could merge those all together and make a new one. Here's my thought.

Can that guy just take that money now? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's his money. Yep. He's got 91 million real American dollars. More than that. Really? Yeah, I believe he's sold over 300 million in the last two years.

Jesus Christ. Remember when being an artist, you were guaranteed to be poor? Now all you have to do is sell NFTs. Digital ownership is going to allow artists to make money. It's true. They're going to be the most wealthy people. That might be a good thing. They're not going to be the most wealthy people.

Who's going to be the most wealthy? The same people that are always the most wealthy. Well, maybe these fucks will get into NFTs. Well, I'm just saying you're missing an opportunity. Interesting. You got to get involved. Which I do. I would immediately come up, have a few meetings with people.

And make a coin? Make a coin. Come up with a cryptocurrency that functions in the Rogan universe for your merch, your tickets, everything. Do people do that? Is it like Motley Crue coin? That's right. You need to have a digital currency that you allow your fans to buy all of your stuff with. And then that only works

with me and my stuff. That's right. Or someone else could adopt it. Or someone else could adopt it. And now, if Rogan coin works out, well then maybe a lot of the comedians in your orbit start going, well that's a very effective way to do it. And they all use your cryptocurrency. And then you have a feudal cryptocurrency empire and you own all this digital real estate.

And then you start selling NFTs of things in the studio and you amass all of this money. Do you want to manage this fund? I would like to get involved. And I've met some very respectable, upstanding people in Miami that want to get involved immediately. How much coke are they on? They're alert. It's not even coke anymore.

It's Adderall and Vyvanse. Yeah? What's Vyvanse? I don't know. Something where you chew your tongue. It's like an Adderall. It's like a slow release Adderall. If you want to manage this, I will give you a hefty section of the price.

Really? I'm meeting right now with people to fund a movie in crypto, a comedy movie because the studio system sucks. Nothing has been made that's funny. Respect to Black Bar Mitzvah with Tiffany Haddish and Billy Crystal. Haven't seen it. Sure, it's amazing. But

everything else is bad. I think that's the title of the movie. So I'm talking to people about funding a movie in crypto and letting people buy it with crypto why not people want to see funny stuff you can easily fund a movie in crypto and and people can buy it using a digital wallet why not because the studio system traditional hollywood all that stuff sucks right now and you know this is the way things are going to get made right now. Artists and creators that are not paying attention to this stuff,

we can joke around about it, make fun of it, because a lot of it's crazy, right? It's like anything else. A lot of it is crazy and silly. It's overvalued. There's bad actors in it, of course. That being said, blockchain technology is not going away. And I think it will eventually revolutionize how people can make things, fund things.

All of the changes that allow people to crowdsource or crowdfund their own projects, I think with crypto, it becomes even more powerful and transformative. So with crypto, when you say you're going to fund a move with crypto, do you have specific coins in mind? Are you going to create a coin to fund this? You can do it a million different ways. I think I'm talking to people right now about the best way to do it. And I think that you want to do it in a way that, you know, you want to do it, make a really great movie.

And then you want the process to be repeatable. So you want it to be a process you can do again. So you want to do it the right way. When I talk to people that want to talk to me about crypto, it's exhausting. I feel like they're stealing my air. I understand that. I can't breathe. I just want to get away from them really quickly. I understand that. But here's the reality of the situation. It's because you haven't talked about it enough. It's like working out. It's because you haven't talked about it enough. It's like working out. Really?

When you work out once, it hurts. You work out every day, you feel great. So I should talk about crypto every day? Every day. So we should have a crypto corner here on the JRE? The fact that you don't have a crypto podcast is insane. Yeah. This is probably one of the crypto people right now.

They're hearing you. From Miami, calling, saying, thank God. We got a plan. Joe, this is the future. There's no other way around it. Interesting. Yeah. Because the incompetence of the Federal Reserve and the government and the way they're handling money.

All of that. And the fact that they have access and control. A decentralized financial instrument like Bitcoin was inevitable. And Ethereum has even less problems than Bitcoin does. Why is that? I forget exactly why. I think that Ethereum's, and Jamie can pull this up, but the thing about, and I don't understand too much about, but there seems to be less problems with the actual blockchain technology with Ethereum than Bitcoin. I don't exactly know why. But people love Ethereum.

So when we open up the comedy club. The NFT things, a lot of it's on their blockchain. And those NFT things are huge right now. A lot of it's on Ethereum. I don't know why. I'm not pretending to be an expert in this. But I will just say that

without knowing much about it, I am convinced it's the future. And if people doubt it, they and their family should go on a list. I'm just saying. It's probably everyone's going to be on a list by the end of 10 years. Jamie, can you find out why Ethereum doesn't have the problems with Bitcoin? I mean, does anyone want to hear anymore? That's a big Google.

It's a big Google. I guess. It has to do with storing the blockchain. Why Ethereum is superior with Bitcoin. I mean, does anyone want to hear anymore? That's a big Google. It has to do with storing the blockchain. Why Ethereum is superior to Bitcoin. Just Google that. Because there's a lot of people that feel like that, Jamie. See if something clear comes up quickly. I'm just saying, it's interesting stuff, right? This is exhausting.

And it allows people to have freedom. Which is good. Freedom is good. Bitcoin allows only public, permissionless, or sensor-proof transactions to take freedom. Here's the quick answer. Which is good. Freedom is good. Bitcoin allows only public, permissionless or sensor-proof transactions to take place. Ethereum allows both permissioned and permissionless transactions. The average block time for Ethereum is significantly less than

Bitcoin's 12 seconds versus 10 minutes. It's faster. What's good about a drive-thru? You go through it faster. Right. It's like Chick-fil-A. It seems like Chick-fil-A. It's like, oh, the line looks long, but it moves. I read that, and I still don't know what I read. Well,

Joe, it's not about knowing. It's about kind of believing and just getting into it. You just got to get into it. You got to believe. You're too much of a stickler on, like, what's the actual thing? It's like, let's just dive in. This is what a're mortgages we didn't know right how these things were going to work but people were very excited about having

a pool so it's paralysis by analysis on my part right is that what's going on i think you're getting you're you're a big brain concept guy and what you need to do is just kind of stop losing yourself in the deets sit back go, everyone's having a lot of fun and people are smiling. If I lost all of my money in Bitcoin, that would be a real issue. But you never would. You never would. But listen, it's an inevitability.

And if people ask you too many specific questions, just say it's an inevitability over and over again. What is Bitcoin worth now? Today? Yeah. Just under $50,000. What's the highest it's an inevitability over and over again. What is Bitcoin worth now? Today? Yeah. Just under $50,000. What's the highest it's ever been? $67,000 or so.

And don't they predict it will one day go to a million? $500,000 a coin. Yeah, there's predictions that by the end of this year, which would be a week from now, it's going to be over $100,000, which can be tough. Well, that's maybe not true, but it's going to be $500,000. $500,000 a coin, that's what they said at Art Basel. I believe it. Yeah, by next it's going to be 500,000. 500,000 a coin. That's what they said at Art Basel. I believe it.

Yeah, by next summer, it could be 250K. There's a lot of predictions. What's Art Basel? It's a place where people in Miami go to do drugs and talk about the future of art and the digital landscape. It's the metaverse, except it's real. But it's art, right? It's art show. Yeah, it's always been like a famous art show. It's metaverse, except it's real. But it's art, right? It's art show, yeah. So it's always been like a famous art show.

It's pretty cool. But now, because obviously a lot of art is digital, and crypto is moving, you know, the NFTs are on the Ethereum blockchain, like, it's become a huge crypto event, too. I don't want to name any names, but I've gotten emails from the shadiest people I know wanting me to get involved in crypto. But they're nice people. Like, I've met them in Art Basel. They're lovely people.

But the ones that I know that want to talk to me about crypto and NFTs, they're the fucking shaniest people I know. Yes, but we need those people because they're going to get us out of this predicament we're in. You think? Yeah, we need a scam. The country's run on a succession of scams.

But how is this going to protect us from China? Ooh, well, I don't know. Isn't that the real China? Well, I don't know. Isn't that the real issue? Well, it's going to- They're buying up everything. It'll pump up the economy. Do you own any digital real estate? What?

Do you own any digital real estate? I'm going to ask you again. What? I mean, I know you have a house and everything. What do you mean by digital real estate? What does that mean? It's real estate in the metaverse. It's real estate.

I don't understand. You're such a boomer. You need to own's real estate in the metaverse. Like owning, you own it. It's real estate. I don't understand. You're such a boomer. You need to own digital real estate, Joe. Oh my God. Snoop Dogg paid $450,000 to be Snoop Dogg's metaverse. Oh, someone paid $450,000 to be Snoop Dogg's metaverse neighbor. Wow. He's now a resident of the sandbox metaverse.

In 20 years, you're not going to be able to go outside because of the climate. So you're going to spend most of your time in a pod, and you're going to live online. Your NFTs are going to be your precious art, and you're going to live in the metaverse in digital real estate. So is Snoop making all that money? If it's $458,000 to be his neighbor, is that his money now? No, it's just like when a celebrity moves into a building, people want to live in it. Okay, good question now. So who gets that money?

Where's that money? The person who owned the land. That's nonsense. What do you mean? It's nonsense. How is it nonsense? They don't get all of it, though. What do you mean there's no land?

There's digital land. This little video is what it is. This is the sandbox. This is Snoop's land in the sandbox. Go back to that. What? What is is. This is the sandbox. This is Snoop's land in the sandbox. Go back to that. What? What is this? This is the sandbox.

Hold on. So I'll pause it real quick. No, no, no. Keep it going. I want to see how this plays out. Wave one. Launching December 2nd. Starting time.

Never forget to pass it. He gets it. All right. So there you go. Before it goes too far. So each of those little blocks are for sale. What? Essentially.

See, it says on sale. That's a bigger block. That's like nine blocks together. It's like an acre. You could start on the metaverse. You could start a Rogan land where nobody has to take a vaccine. But this isn't even real life. Think about that.

I'm so confused. This is real life. It's what real life's becoming. What's happening in that, Joe, just like for something you might understand, which is sort of showed right there, that very beginning part, what can happen in the sandbox is like Roblox.

So you can develop a game in your space and people can come play it and then they can give you money to play it or hang out or watch the concert you're hosting. What if you owned, you could start your own country, essentially, in the metaverse. You buy up all this digital real estate. And then what if Gavin Newsom ran for governor of it, won, and destroyed it? He'd be fucking you twice.

In the real world and in the metaverse. No, but you've got to get involved in this, man. I'm telling you. This is the future. Yeah, Atari is invested in here. This is Snoop's little plot down here. But all these green areas are owned this, man. I'm telling you. This is the future. Yeah, Atari is invested in here. This is Snoop's little plot down here, but all these green areas are owned by other people. I'm getting the plot. Do you have a plot?

This is where? What is this? This would be the sandbox metaverse. So there's metaverses? There'll be the Facebook metaverse? Dude, for sure there's a ton of metaverses. You can't afford to be in certain metaverses. Certain metaverses you can.

Which one could I not afford to be in? Not you specifically, but I'm talking about regular people like myself. I don't know that I could afford this metaverse. But I'm going to start in another metaverse and work hard. Listen, the country's over. Have a little fun. In 20 years, there's people on the streets with guns dragging you out of your house and killing you. You might as well have a little fun in 20 years there's people on the streets with guns dragging you out

of your house and killing you you might as well have a little fun do you feel more freedom when you do your wild rants with aviator sunglasses on yeah well you know

what it was we're doing it because the lights were burning my eyes we had this little studio but now the studio is bigger so I don't wear them as much

I feel like there's something about you wearing them that makes it more fun I like them with the hat I think it's fun you're freer.

Yeah. Like you're protected. You can say wild shit and no one can see your pupils. Yeah, because it's not me. I have shades on. We're cutting this digital real estate clip and I'm going to put it out online. Don't start any problems. So these metaverses, there'll be

many, many metaverses. Oh, for sure. So we could start a JRE metaverse. Absolutely. And what would we do with it? We get the Weinsteins and Ron DePatrick, Naval Ravikant. And what do they do in there? The same thing they do here, talk shit. Interesting.

Just babble. Interesting. There will be a way to broadcast content a la YouTube, but it wouldn't be YouTube. It can be YouTube maybe right now if that's how someone programmed it. Broadcast content a la YouTube, but it wouldn't be YouTube. It can be YouTube maybe right now if that's how someone programmed it. Broadcast content. This is like creating new websites. But you have to have a server, right? So you have to pay for the server.

You would, but it wouldn't be going wide open for everybody because it's the only people that are accessing it, and then they're paying to access your thing, so it's paying for itself. Jesus Christ. I feel like I better get in on this before it gets too far away from me. I'm telling you, I know that it seems crazy, but young kids, they're digitally native. They grow up

online. Digitally native. That's a funny expression. Jake Paul explained this entire thing to me, and this is why I know it. Did he? Yes. He's, like, brilliant about this. Really? Yes. I'm telling you. He understands this better than anyone. Really? I'm telling you he does. I believe you anyone. Really? I'm telling you he does.

I believe you. Young kids are digitally native. Everything is online. All of their prized possessions they'll own will eventually be online. Their formative experiences are primarily online. Their friendships are online. They're kind of living online already. They just don't have an address.

So digital real estate's like that next step of like why not have a badass house you can't afford a house now in in america and soon you won't be able to afford one in the metaverse the metaverse is austin three years ago it's true so the metaverse when you get into these digital spaces it'll be like an increasingly more sophisticated version of virtual reality. That's right. As time goes on, it'll get better and better. That's right.

That's right. Wow. So an NFT would be maybe something you have is like people like, whoa, look at that. But you have to bank on the right metaverse because you bank on the blockbuster of metaverses. Then you have all this stock in some bullshit ass Metaverse and it goes away. You got it. You got it. That's for investors.

That's not the, the average user will be like, you can get in free Facebook. We'll call it like, it'd be like Pong, but there will be the Quake version that you would want to get into for 10, 15 bucks a month. The Sandbox Metaverse, is that the same company as Sandbox, the digital, the virtual reality company that I go to? No. No? Why do they steal their name?

The Sandbox and Sandbox VR. Will there be a little St. James metaverse, like a little pedophile island metaverse? Probably. There has to be. St. James? Is that where his island was? A little St. James, yeah. Is that the name of his island?

Yeah, a little St. James, like a little pedophile island metaverse. Is that island for sale? Oh, for sure. You think so? I think Island metaverse that I want for sale. Oh for sure You think so? I think yeah, I think they'd be a real problem to buy it, right? Like nobody wants to buy his his ranch apparently has a giant ranch in New Mexico Everybody's like that apartment New York City So I mean that had that day I got rid of they got rid of that quick dump that quick Yeah, nobody gives a fuck. That's like American Psycho. That's right

Yeah, read the book. Yeah. It's great. It's like people just cleaning up bodies that he would leave behind. Yeah. And like, shit the fuck up. Yeah. We're trying to sell an apartment. I think that it's all interesting, this stuff. It is definitely interesting because I didn't see it coming, so clearly I don't know what

the fuck I'm talking about. And these guys, like that guy made $90 million, and Beeple made $100 million last year, and he's fucking balling out of control. It's time to start going in that direction. You know, Beeple drives a Corolla. Yeah. He should get a fucking Rolls Royce, right? He should get...

What do you have to earn before you get a Rolls Royce? When do you step up? I won't get anything in the physical world until I've set myself up in the metaverse. Truly. I mean, I want a mansion in the metaverse. Who cares what anyone has in real life? Real life is a distraction at best.

People are talking about traffic. Things are falling apart. The infrastructure is crumbling. The metaverse is perfect and serene. No more working out. Well, in the metaverse, you can work out. But there's no effort. It's not hard.

What do you mean? You won't be struggling because you won't have real exercise. Struggle's where you find it. But I mean exercise, like heart rate increasing. Heart? Yeah. The metaverse will provide. So will you download your consciousness into a computer?

Will you be an early adopter? 100%. 100%? Really? I think we've got to start doing this very soon. What did Alex Jones say? So will you download your consciousness into a computer? Will you be an early adopter? 100%. 100%. Really? I think we got to start doing this very soon. What did Alex Jones say? Get rid of your body for the golden silicon gods. Yeah, that's what he said.

I anticipate one day visiting Tim, and Tim is 90 feet tall. He's wearing a golden crown. That's right. And a diaper. Yes. And you're sitting on a throne in your version of the metaverse. And I'm like, fuck, I should have listened to you. From your mouth to God's ears.

Piles of gold, like that dragon in Lord of the Rings. Smog. Smog, that's right. I'm telling you right now, you're at the tail end of the physical world mattering. What's this? This is an episode of Black Mirror that was maybe season one or two. You're at the tail end of the physical world mattering. What's this? This is an episode of Black Mirror that was maybe season one or two. It's called 15 Million Merits.

But essentially, this kid wakes up in a room, all screens, and he spends his day riding a bicycle. They're on treadmills earning money so they can do stuff in this fake world that they live in. And right now there's a push in games, a new level of games called Play to Earn Games, which you're going to be making money, most likely a cryptocurrency, that you can then spend on, in theory, whatever.

I mean, look at Minecraft. I mean, those kids play Minecraft all day. They've created these crazy, big, huge, I mean, they have millions of people watching them and like they've created these worlds. I mean this is just – I used to dismiss gaming, but it's much more substantive than I had imagined. Have you started to come to this opinion about NFTs and this metaverse? Have you started to come to this slowly? Was there an awakening moment?

Like what made you realize that this is the slowly? Was there an awakening moment? What made you realize that this is the future? I think it's slowly, but I just believe, like for example, I dismiss gaming as like this adolescent thing, but it's truly not. Especially if you look at the movies and TV that we're making right now, the vast majority of it isn't checking the boxes that people want it to. And then you have these games where these crazy interactive games, these thriving communities that are built that are much more substantive than I have imagined. And they have drama and they have excitement and they have all these things, these story arcs and everything that are much more complex than I had initially imagined. I was overly dismissive of those

online communities. I think in the same way that a lot of people are overly dismissive of what's going on right now. We know, we're already doing it. That's the thing. We're already kind of living online. This is what I don't think people realize. I don't think it's this massive jump. I think it's going to be much more immersive. But I think we're already almost at when's the last, you know, most people are talking about things they see online.

Most people are, you know, that's driving the conversation. I don't think it's a far cry to suggest that, like, you know, we're in a metaverse of sorts already. Well, something has to be done to stop online censorship. Maybe something decentralized and something that is controlled, you know, in this way. Well, that's why you joined Morgan Wallen's metaverse. Who's? Morgan Wallen. The guy who screamed the N-word in his driveway,

the country singer. Morgan Wallen? You don't know about this? No. Do you know who he is? Of course. Why did he scream it? I think he was kidding.

Oh. But all of this stuff eventually, hopefully increases the amount of freedom people have that everything isn't centralized, mainframe, like a controlled, top-down paramilitary thing. Hopefully. Hopefully. That's the hope. But if not, LOL. If not, then it's going to be controlled by the Bitcoin people.

But something's got to be done to stop what's happening now, the trend of online censorship that's controlled by these massive tech companies. And if something could disrupt that, if that could be done through blockchain, if that could be done through the metaverse- Now you're getting there. Then I'm in. Well, listen, I should be the first person that thinks outside the box because if it wasn't for outside the box, I wouldn't have the number one podcast in the world, right?

I'm stunned- If that happened out of nowhere. the box because if it wasn't for Outside the Box, I wouldn't have the number one podcast in the world. Right? That happened out of nowhere. I'm stunned that mine is bigger technically if you look at the numbers, but I don't want to interrupt you. It is bigger. It should be bigger. How about that? If you look at the numbers. I find it more enjoyable than mine.

I'm surprised that you're not all over this stuff already because you've always been the guy that's ahead of things by leaps and bounds. It's because there's too many shady people that are offering it up to me. Well, in the beginning of everything, there's a lot of shady people. But things shake out. And those people, you know, in the beginning of any Wild West environment where you don't have a ton of regulation and things aren't well established, he's going to attract a certain type of person. Brilliant.

Some of them visionaries. Some of them great. Some of. Brilliant. Some of them visionaries. Some of them great. Some of them criminals. Some of them. And eventually the cream rises to the top. But I like doing so many things in the real world. I don't think I'm- You're like way too into-

I think I was born too early. You're way too into the real world. You're into like lakes and rivers. That shit sucks. No one cares. It's gay. The reality is the metaverse is better. People don't care about hunting deer in a volcano or whatever you do.

They're all 900 pounds, and they're hooked up to tubes to just live. Let them enjoy the metaverse. You'll always get to take your dumb trips with your friends, and you guys can run around. I'm going to stay. I'm going to put all my money in wood chips. around. I'm going to stay. I'm going to put all my money in wood chips. We're always going to need pellets to

fuel the tragers. Yeah. I mean, perhaps. It's just interesting stuff, man. Maybe I just spent a few days too long in my alley. That's also possible. That's possible. You might need to just decompress it, Terry Blacks. Every day we talked about this from breakfast through 3 a.m. I'm sober. Really? Yeah I'm

sober. This is at Art Basel? I know you are. This is at Art Basel? Yeah. This is what people are talking about. Should I go there next year? It's really cool. You did enjoy it? I loved it. Yeah. It was a really fun. It's fun. Was it hard for you to move around? Did people swarm you?

They didn't swarm me but the Gary Vee party they let me in. Why'd they let, but the Gary Vee party, they let me in. Why'd they let you in the Gary Vee party? Well, because one of the guys goes, oh, we love you. You're a legend. They let me in. Did Gary Vee find out you were there and kick you out? No, I think he has a sense of humor. Do you think so? I think so. But didn't he try to ban some of the things you did?

No, that was my conspiracy, thinking that he did. I was walking around that party scared. Because he would come for you? I had two of my friends with me and I was looking around. I'm like, where is he? I thought he was going to descend from the ceiling. I was a little scared, but it was very sweet of his people. I'm

going to sit down with him because I'm curious about funding a movie in crypto. So I want to sit down with him. You're going to sit down with Gary Vee? He's supposedly open to it. Is he the guy to fund a movie in crypto with? No, but he knows a lot about this world, about NFTs and stuff. And I've made fun of some of the advice he's given because it's a little wacky.

Like what? Well, he's just said crazy things like kindness is delicious and things like that. Which, you know, again, as a comedian, you'd have to make fun of some of the advice he's given, which is very vague. He puts out a lot of content. Yeah, and some of it's good. Great. But some of the advice he's given, which is very vague. He puts out a lot of content. Yeah, and some of it's good. Great. But some of it's vague. I've made fun of the things that are vague.

When he goes, you can talk about it or you can be about it, but I do both. And you go, what? So things like that, I just don't. There's probably a method to the madness there. But he's a good father and a good guy, and he's made money for his family. He's not a bad guy. Not a for his family he's not a bad guy I gotta go back into this you see how I'm kind of trying to I gotta angle back into this

I see I gotta angle back in you can have initial impressions about someone some of what he said is as a comedian your job is to make fun of crazy stuff and when somebody does something that's crazy, you got to make fun of it. And even this NFT stuff, I make fun of it because a lot of it's silly. But I do think that the world has to change.

People have to stop going outside. Forever? For a while. Until what? Until they realize their needs are met on the metaverse. Boo. Are we we gonna just become integrated is that the future well that's your whole thing right you've always believed that

but I was hoping it would take a little longer I know but I'm ready now the rest of us are ready now I think we're gonna be cyborgs for sure but do you think this happens first and then the cyborg part it's creepy and wild but i i do believe that this is you know unfortunately

maybe or fortunately this is the inevitable reality damn i don't know how to deal with there's too much inertia moving it to that direction. You know? Yeah. Young kids already are complete. Their formative experiences, the things they value, are online-based. You know? The interactions they have, the friendships they've built, the communities they're a part of, the information they get, the social arrangements they they have a lot of it is online a lot of the prize possessions they will own are

online and that's where NFTs come in it's not only digital art but it's you know it's kind of anything that people the concept of digital ownership it's just like you owning that cool crystal skull or, you know. It's brass. Brass or, you know, any of the things that you own that you go, this is a really cool thing that I own. People are going to do that online. Hmm.

I should be more open to this because obviously. It's crazy that I'm even convincing you of this. You're not. I'm just going along with it. As soon as I leave, I'm going to get the fuck out of your mind. I'm telling you. I'm going to play with my dog. You said I was wrong about Clubhouse, and now it's the biggest app in the world.

Yeah, you were definitely wrong about Clubhouse. I was wrong about Clubhouse. Tell me I didn't call that. I was wrong about Clubhouse. Don't tell that to Leila Lamar. Andrew Schultz and you about Clubhouse. Tell me I didn't call that. I was wrong about Clubhouse. Don't tell that to Leila Lamar. Andrew Schultz and you called Clubhouse. Well, I was like, this is a bad podcast. It's horrible.

Anybody can interrupt. Yeah, it's a podcast. Somebody said it was a podcast with hecklers, and they were right. It's horrible. Well, once Brett Weinstein got kicked out of that room, and they kicked everybody out of that room that started it, and they started calling everybody racist, I was like, whoa. Like, what is this? But I think these ideas have a lot more merit

than an app, obviously. I think this is just seemingly, you know... Well, don't you think that Clubhouse was great for what it was at the time, which is like people got stuck? But anyone you meet in real life from Clubhouse, it's like terrifying. When you're like Leigh Lamar,

she's like the queen of Clubhouse. Yeah, I guess. Is she still on it? I don't know. I haven't been on it in months. If you go to Clubhouse now, are there people there? I was actually just... It's moved over to Twitter now, Twitter Spaces. Yeah, Clubhouse is dead.

They stole it? It's the same thing. It's the same thing. How is it the same thing? You talk on Twitter? It's the same thing. You just talk on Twitter. Wait a minute. On Twitter spaces, you can have phone calls?

You can do the thing, but no one cares anymore. Really? Yeah. So when did it move over to Twitter spaces? But how many followers does Leia have on the clubhouse? She was up to like a couple hundred thousand.

Right? That was like way bigger than any of her other platforms. She was in to like a couple hundred thousand. Right? That was like way bigger than any of her other platforms. She was in an NFT discussion. I just sort of checked it out to be like, is this exactly like Clubhouse? Maybe I'm wrong. It is bullshit. Will there be comedy? Will there be comedy in the metaverse? Yes.

There'll be everything. Everything that's here, you'd have there. All the entertainment, you know? Bands? Yeah, why not? I don't know. Something about watching really old rock stars dance on the stage for the last time. I saw the Stones live in person. Yeah.

It wouldn't be the same if I saw them in the metaverse. To you, because you grew up without it. The people that are growing up with only the metaverse will only know the metaverse. Jesus, dude. It's heavy shit, but it's true. I didn't expect this from you. Well, you know, I'm a, you know, a raconteur. A raconteur. I'm trying to get a large sum of money from people so we can start a crypto island off the coast of Miami.

Off the coast of Miami? There's islands? Yeah, we're going to buy an island. It's not going to be a pedophile run. It's going to be run with crypto, which is even worse. What if the Chinese invade your island? They're not going to. They might. They's not going to be pedophile run. It's going to be run with crypto, which is even worse. What if the Chinese invade your island? They're not going to. They might. They're not going to invade my island. What if they don't trust you? They're going to trust me.

It's going to be their island too because it's not going to be real. It's just going to be a location in the metaverse. You keep thinking about invasions. I'm more worried about digital attacks. From aliens? From anybody. I mean, that's a good point.

Can you attack a metaverse? You must be able to if it's on a server somewhere. For sure. And that's more what I'd worry about. I'm worried about some crazy 13-year-old kid who's a super genius who's going to hack into it for a goof. Yeah. To impress his friends on TikTok. I'm just saying that I am all in on this.

Jeez. I'm all in on this. She had 264,000. That's where she's at? Yeah. 9,000 on Twitter. Yeah, well, that's- That's it.

That's what I'm saying. That's it. You see the difference? But on her Twitter, it says like, ex-clubhouse something. Ex-clubhouse? Well, I just- She's no longer on Clubhouse?

Ex-clubhouse icon. Oh. She's not a Clubhouse icon anymore? I tried to open up the app and when you go to it It says error loading stuff Oh, it's dead Did Clubhouse die? Oh, it's dead I don't know if it's officially dead

Deval and I were on the phone He was trying to convince me that he couldn't invest He goes, I would like a bigger position in it I want to spend more money on it And I'm listening to him and I'm like a bigger position in it I want to spend more money on it and I'm listening to him like I thought he was smart right like he's his advice is so good about somebody he's like one of my favorite advice guys ever because it's so clear and succinct so him telling me about clubhouse I'm like do you have a podcast because if you don't have a podcast you should get

one and then if you had one I think you'd look at Clubhouse and go, what the fuck is this? No, I was caught up, I think, in a pandemic frenzy, an insane thing where you were like, oh, this is fun and cool. But then it ended. Well, when you and I were on that one time and then the head guy from Clubhouse jumped on it with us. Yeah. And then I was like, what's to stop people from uploading this? They won't. It was online five minutes later. Five minutes later. I'm like, this is not stop people from uploading this? They won't. It was online five minutes later on YouTube. Five minutes later.

I'm like, this is not a- That's also the problem. Yeah. Like, people are uploading it. Yeah, it's a country of rats. Fucking rats. I didn't know what I'm going to do. It is a country of rats.

It's a country of rats. There's a lot of, like, real benefit in being a rat today. There's a huge benefit in it. That didn't always used to be the case. No. People just looked down on it. Yeah. in it does that didn't always used to be the case no yeah but now everybody wants to you know everybody wants to shine a light on something so if they hear that

you had a conversation clubhouse they're like yeah and it gives them value as a human being to be the person that uploaded that. They want to make a little money. You know, there's equity in it. There's equity in being the rat. But listen, is not your favorite thing going to a place, showing up at a sold out theater and rocking the house? It's in the top 10. What's number one? No, I love comedy.

Comedy is great. it's the best but doing a great podcast is good too i'm telling you i i got into the pandemic i love live comedy but when i do a really good podcast i go that's really funny and i look at ben and i go that's really great and it's going to be seen by however many people and there's no cap whereas a theater there's a cap and the amazing thing of live experience is there's a finite amount of people in there's no cap whereas a theater there's a cap and the amazing thing of live experience is there's a finite amount of people in there and the show's gonna be different every time when you do something great

digitally that you can put out and so many people are gonna enjoy it I mean I like that too but there's the feeling of being there live yes that I love the most it's a shot of heroin but the podcast is a slow release Vyvanse as opposed to a line of Adderall.

Do you have physical things? Are you a guy like if I went over your house, do you have a lot of art? Do you have nothing? Not a lot of things. Do you have a TV? A nice TV? Yeah, shit like that. But I don't care. You don't care? No, I don't care. You don't own any jewelry or anything? No, no, no. No nice watches? No, I got bought a Range Rover.

I sold it because of the supply chain. I sold it immediately. The Range Rover you got rid of? Yeah, I got rid of it because I got within- So what are you driving? Right now, I don't have a car. I rented a Suburban. You don't have a car.

I rented a Suburban. You are all in on this. I rented a Suburban. Really? Yeah, I was on the road for three months. I said, because of the supply chain right now, I can get rid of the Range Rover for almost what I paid. Really?

Just get rid of it. You don't need it. They break. Yeah, they break. It's whatever. Did yours break? The seat broke. Like one of the massage things in it.

It's usually electric stuff. Yeah. It's always a problem. And I was just like, I don't need a car that's that much money. It's fine. Wow. Just get rid of it. Interesting.

I'd rather have the money to buy property in the digital world. Oh, if anybody wants to buy one, I think Ron Weitz is for sale, too. I think he's selling one. He goes, well, I got two of them. I'm going to sell one. I like experiences more than things. Yes, that's why I like live comedy. Yeah, I like live comedy, too.

But I think putting something out online and having people enjoy it from all over the world or whatever is cool. It is cool, but both are cool. Yeah. Oh, they're both cool. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I just, I don't know.

I see what you're saying. Yeah. But obviously I'm resisting it, whether it's logical or illogical. There's a part of me that's going, I don't like it. Yeah. I understand that you're an IRL guy and you're a real life guy an IRL guy? yeah but the reality is

the future is digital and me and my friends in Miami are going to make a very good world so you should just get involved now get in on the ground floor maybe I'll go with you 12 months from now

I'll book some gigs around it book a gig. It'll be really fun. You can talk to all these people. What time is it? When was it? It was three weeks ago I went. December? Early December? Yeah, you stay the four seasons down there. They got a great restaurant. You go to all the things.

It's fun. In June, there's an Art Basel. June? Oh, there's another one? Well, you know what? You should come to the Crypto Conference. I'm doing a comedy show at the Crypto Conference in Miami. I did a live podcast last year with the Winklevoss twins and Jake Paul. I'm doing a live comedy show there this year plus a podcast. So a live comedy show with people.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, there's people. The one in June's in Switzerland. Yeah, the December. The December 1st. But you could come to that. I mean, we can't afford you.

We were going to book people that we could afford by, well, I'll have to get paid. I'll just show up. Oh, yeah. Well, you could do that. We're going to go back. It's a lot of fun. And when you do your live show, are you going to a theater? Like, what are you doing?

Oh, yeah. It's a convention center. Oh. That's where we did the podcast last last year so you did the podcast there last year in front of a live audience yeah what is that have you done that before no this is the first time i did it i think it was the second or third time i did it i've done it three times because generally you don't have guests in your podcast for sure but occasionally you do you feel a lot of pressure to be funny with the live crowd. Right. So I think it makes it really fun in the moment, but to listen back to it, you actually would rather it not be live. Especially if it's a conversation. Live podcasts to listen to suck, but to be at them, they're very fun.

Yeah, it's a different feel when you're listening to them. That's right. Yeah. So you have like, we had Jake Paul come in who talked about fighting, boxing, NFTs. He's been saying that he's suffering from slurring words and loss of memory already. Yeah.

That's not, I mean, you know more about that than me. It doesn't take long. It doesn't take long. You get a few shots. Yeah. He's fucking good though.

He's really good. Like people want to pretend he's not because he's a YouTube guy. The way he knocked out Tyron Woodley, that is fucking skillful. No, he knows what he's doing. He's got real fucking power. And he works hard. Meanwhile, all the fucking casuals are thinking it's fake. Yeah, people are saying it was, there was a TikTok saying that it was staged, but it's.

Yeah, they were saying there's a tell because he moves his hand. And he's like saying, here comes the big right hand. I'm going to hit you. Yeah, it's,'s no it's silly i think that um but it was it was fun we had him and then the winklevoss twins who are those crypto billionaires yeah the facebook guys and they were they were cool and so we'll be back this year interesting yeah so you have become an integral part of that community well i'm not integral in the community well i did that little wallet trailer as a joke that film what is that it was I did a trailer of a

Crypt fake crypto movie of one of these, you know movies. Oh, I need to see this was gonna be made You've never seen it. It has like three million views. We're gonna buy every now will be three million one Retweeted by everyone in the community And the crypto community. Here we go It was like a this was the type of movie that Hollywood was going to make about Bitcoin. The following preview has been approved for appropriate audiences by most picture associations. I think we mentioned him. Tommy, I called you in to talk about dad and money.

Dad owns a hundred Biddle coins. And he's got them in a wallet on the internet. A wallet's the internet. What the fuck are you talking about? If we get the password, there's millions of dollars in there. Elon Musk started a new type of money. Who is Elon Musk? He was an astronaut, Tommy.

Listen, Ma, Dad was into something here. Is that a real quote? Your father was a fucking clown. We just gotta get that password. Why don't you try fucking Susan? Is that a real quote? You fucking loser, what's the password? What's the fucking password? Tommy, the central banks are fucking us! Not all this, Timmy! Not all the letters! Our only fucking chance! We changed our fucking lives, Tommy.

I have $17, Timmy. That's not good. Big fucking surprise there, your father was a real class act. See, that's your quote. It's gonna be okay, Tommy. That's your quote. I didn't know I quoted it. We're trying to get the password. Okay.

So we did it. So that got a lot of attention in that. The wallet. Yeah. Well, how about that guy that's been going through a dump for eight years because there's a half a billion dollars in Bitcoin in that dump? It's such a funny idea, right? The idea that somebody could do something, one good thing in their life financially and

then throw it away. And now, for eight years, he's been combing this dump. What if it's not even in the dump? Oh, yeah, who knows? How does he even know it's in the dump? It's probably this thing that, like, this has happened to a few people. A guy I know died, and his wife was looking into it.

So if he's going through that dump, how the fuck is he going to find it? That, I don't know. I think he's just looking for a How the fuck is he going to find it? That I don't know I think he's just looking for But it's a giant landfill Yeah I don't know what he's looking for A needle in a haystack A literal needle in a haystack

Well if it's the kind of money that you would You'd spend the time doing it Well not only that there's got to be a lot of composition Decomposition and moisture And the sheer biomass of all that garbage. Oh, for sure. Who knows what the fuck happened to that hard drive by the time he gets to it.

Oh, yeah. But again, if it's $500 million, you're going to fucking look. For eight years he's been looking. You're going to look. Why not? Well, that's the thing. That's a very funny, interesting interesting thing and I'm sure that

stuff will change where you'll be maybe be easy to get in them maybe not I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know either I feel like like one of those old men where the world has changed and I'm like what email yes fuckers email you are kind of a little bit like that. Send me a letter. That's right. Yeah. But you can change.

The time is now. You can change and you can start. I just keep doing what I'm doing. Maybe, but. You don't think I should? I think it's time to start your own coin. What would I call it? Rogue. JRE coin? Rogue coin. Yeah. It's time to start your own coin. What would I call it? Rogue?

JRE coin? Rogue coin? Yeah. It's a little too on the nose. It's not great. JRE coin. JRE coin. Start a JRE coin. And what do I do? I think you just... How many of them are there? You get a bunch and then... What does that mean?

Well, you... There's a set amount of them. How do I set it? Well, Jamie, you know. Can't he just start a coin? I don't want you to tell me because you don't know. No, I've never started a coin. Of course I don't know.

I got 7,500 Bitcoin on a hard drive. At 50K, that's $3 billion. What? Somebody lost that? Yeah. Who's that? A different guy? I don't know? No, no.

I thought his was only worth a half a million. If he started a coin, he'd come up with like, what, 50,000 coins? Oh my god. Half a billion bitcoin lost in the dump. Oh my god. I was just digging through another one. It says a UK man

had 700, yeah, mistakenly put a hard drive with 7,500 bitcoins in the trash. Oh my God, that's way more, right? I mean. That's 230, 280 billion, 280 million.

He needs permission from his local council to search a garbage dump he believes contains the lost hardware. He doesn't have the fucking. That's the price though a year ago

when it was way less. But he doesn't have the permission. Oh yeah, though a year ago when it was way less but he doesn't have the permission oh yeah well good luck so this has happened many times it's a part of the bitcoin thing you know there's a finite amount we don't know how many of them are so they're lost forever the ones that are lost forever are lost forever correct and that's what's good about it's not fiat currency it can't keep getting printed every time we want to go to war or you know right a new program but if somebody grabs his hard drive, then they'll own his Bitcoin. Like if somebody else combs through that dump, do they have to have the, yes?

Yeah, they gotta have the password and shit. They have to have the password. They have to get in. Then you only get, that's the joke of the thing. There's like five chances to do it or three chances to do it. Right. Or ten or whatever it is.

And what if a password or what if a hard drive burns in a fire? Then the money's gone forever. Like money burning in a fire. Depending on what you did, there might be a way to access it as long as you still have the password because it's on the chain, not on the hard drive. Depending on exactly what it is, I don't want to get too far into it.

These questions I don't think are productive or helpful. Right. You've just got to kind of get in here. I mean, you know what I mean? When you tell someone to start working out, they don't go, what am I? Yeah, but you can hire a trainer and you can get to working out tomorrow. And I have the trainers, crypto trainers in Miami for you. We fly you right down.

We fly you right down. This is me with a headache. I may or may not have promised people that you are starting a coin. I may or may not have promised people that you are starting a coin. This is me flying back the same time next year going, fuck this. I'm buying a log cabin on the top of a mountain. Perhaps. And I'm stockpiling food and bullets. But there's no variance in the metaverse.

Oh, boy. There's no variance. What if you're sick while you're in your fucking house? There's no Fauci In the metaverse There's no Everything There's I'm telling you No mandates

In the metaverse baby Yeah How does the story End for Fauci He's 80 years old Like how much longer Is he gonna stay alive A documentary

That they've already Made about him You know Books Yeah The real Anthony Fauci Is the number one Book in America right now

Well that's the hit piece Right But then There'll be a loving There'll be another Version of that That's a glowing You know thing Well I think He's one number one book in America right now. Well, that's the hit piece, right? But then there'll be a loving, there'll be another version of that that's a glowing thing. Well, I think he's one of the reasons why they took the thumbs down off of YouTube. Which is hilarious, by the way. It will end for him the way it ends for everyone who has a public profile, right?

I mean, it's like, no one cares. Well, anyone who's got a public profile that's in charge of the vaccines and public health and may have started up gain of function research yeah oh sure yeah pandemic in the first place his significance will be hotly debated like in terms of like how how good or bad he was yeah people debate that there'll be the people that look at him like jesus and you know there'll be the people that look at him like Jesus. And, you know, there'll be the people that say he's the devil. Yeah, but I'm saying, like, how does it end? Like, this Robert Kennedy book is the number one book in the country.

I haven't read it. It's on Ben's. Somebody sent it to us, but I haven't read it. Ben has it in his house. But it's not on any New York Times bestseller list, right? No. Which is hilarious. I guess not.

I don't know. Is it? What's the New York Times bestseller list? Like? No. Which is hilarious. I guess not. I don't know. Is it? What's the New York Times bestseller list? If it's number one on Amazon, right? That's what I heard. All right, it's the number one book in the country. But is it on lists? Is it on the bestseller list?

Or is it just number one? Number one, but off the list? It might be number one on Amazon. Okay. Yeah. Amazon charts, number one this week, The Real Anthony Fauci. It's got 3,610 ratings on Amazon with five stars.

The Real Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health, Children's Health Defense, hardcover, November 16th. So if this is the number one in America, what is the New York Times bestseller list? Number one on Amazon and a New York Times, Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and publishes weekly national bestsellers. So it's a New York Times bestseller? Go to the New York Times bestsellers list for today. What's the, let's like go to the New York Times bestsellers list for today. Like what is, what's the list?

Bestsellers list. Okay. Let's see what it is. Here it is. Number one. Call us what we carry. Okay. We're going to go to nonfiction.

It's not there. It's not there at all. Well, because they're going to say it's fiction. Stanley Tucci. Like, look at this. This is for next January 2nd, 2022, though, also. Oh. Go back to what they're so far ahead.

Well, how could it be January 22nd? Pre-sales? I don't know. Okay, so. What week are we in this one? That's good. But where is it? Are they hiding it?

Hardcover nonfiction. Click on that and see what's the full list because that's only showing you five. So is there a number when you go down where it shows up? They're real Anthony Fauci. Number seven. Interesting. So it is there. It's there.

But I wonder why it's not number one on Amazon. So it is there. It's there. But I wonder why it's not number one on Amazon. There's something with the New York Times list where they weigh certain sales differently. Oh, you mean they rig it. Yeah. Well, it's weird.

It's like somebody's explaining it to me. I think when you do Barnes & Noble and stores like that, the sales count less than they do for independent bookstores. They've done a very good job of making that guy seem like he's out of his fucking mind. Who? Robert Kennedy Jr. Yeah, I don't know much about him. I know that he has some issue that I believe he believes he got from a vaccine or something,

a disease. Is that what he says? Is that? I don't know. I mean, I know he has an issue. His voice is fucked. So that's why I thought maybe that's why he's very passionate about vaccines. I don't know. Theo Vaughn had him on his podcast. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I didn't listen to it, though. But, uh... Yeah.

I mean, I don't think he's vaccine... I don't think he's against vaccines in general. I think he... I don't want to be incorrect about this. I think he believes that they cover up some of the side effects when they happen. Not that they happen all the time, but some of the side effects when they do happen, particularly with children. I think he believes they've covered them up. Yeah, undoubtedly.

But this was all before the pandemic. Right. Before the pandemic, he was thought of as an anti-vaxxer, back when anti-vaxxer still carried a negative connotation, but it didn't seem like you were destroying society. Right, right. It was like, oh, he's one of those. He's like Jenny McCarthy or something. Exactly. Right, yeah.

Exactly. Exactly. And now it's like, you're demon. Yeah, because people keep trying to get me to get him on. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. You know? I need to watch him talk, you know.

Have you? I've seen a few things but not in depth it's wild though that this book is number one on Amazon yeah that's where

I think most people buy books I believe that more than I believe any sort of curated list oh yeah I don't doubt it's a massive book

you ever do a Google search yeah and then do a DuckDuckGo search, and you're like, huh. Yeah. Like DuckDuckGo doesn't curate, so you get all the relevant information. Whereas with Google, they hide shit from you. Well, they gatekeep. Exactly.

That's right. Yeah. Well, that's why you need, I think, alternatives to these things. And I think alternatives to these things will be you know more online like you know crypto funded yeah you know things that people can manage with a bunch of people as opposed to with a very small tightly controlled group of people that's the hope oh okay I believe you I'm interested Now all I need from you Is

I feel like you sold me a car 10 million dollars I feel like it's that scene in Fargo When you're trying to sell me the coating underneath the car I just need 3 million dollars cash And we're gonna make all of our dreams come true Oh cash But what do you mean

I thought cash was no good Listen We need it first. It's a small startup cost. Oh, so it's like- It's a small startup cost. You need like a little bit of Tinder to start the fire. A little bit of the greenbacks.

A little bit of the old bloody imperialist money to get lifted off into hyperspace. Are you concerned about the future? No. Not at all? No, I don't have children. Oh, if you concerned about the future? No. Not at all? No, I don't have children. Oh, if you did, you would? Maybe. I mean, I want people to live in a good world, but I mean, concerned about the future is terribly, I don't think it's productive.

Yeah. I mean, because there's so much I can do. I treat people nicely. I pay people well I respect people but like in terms of like you know is anyone concerned about the future who's not trying to overthrow the government

that's a good question well wouldn't you try to overthrow the government if you were concerned about the future well you would but then I don't want to run this shit hole I don't want to run this shit hole but who do you want to run the shithole? Is there anybody that seems to stand out? At this point, I'd rather, I would rather

this place be run by a consortium of criminals that are at least smart enough to be on the new wave of crime than I would these morons in Congress. Well, I think they're all criminals anyway. That's right. I think the laws haven't been adjusted accordingly to make what they do illegal. But as far as the future, I mean, it's like, I don't think you can spend an inordinate amount of time

obsessing about things you can't control, right? It's not wise. We just had a pandemic. There's going to be other shit. There'll be natural disasters. There'll be chaos. There'll be all kinds of things that we can't control. And I think we just have to accept that this experience that we're all having on Earth is fleeting.

Yeah. So, you know, I don't know what this planet's going to look like in half a billion years, but I don't know. Probably be done. half a billion years, but I don't know. Probably be done. At the beginning of the pandemic, you were going to go on keto and you were going to try to clean your act up. I clean my act up a little bit,

but what does that do? Listen, you can still, as the great Donald J. Trump said, he was quoted as saying, you can worry about anything and then an earthquake kills 500 people in India. What are you going to do? You can't worry about it.

Is that what he said? Yeah, something like that. It's a great quote. He's right. He's really right though. You can't really, you can't obsess too much. You should eat healthy and do things, but you can't obsess over anything. His best quote was everything woke turns to shit.

That was a good one. That's the best quote. That was, he's not wrong. That was a good one. That's the best quote. That was, he's not wrong. That's a good one. But, you know, he's also right about that, where it's like, you can't obsess too much about the things you can't control. Yeah, but you gotta kind of also keep your eye on the criminals. You gotta, you can't obsess too much on it, but you can't just stand back and let them

pass wild, crazy fucking bills and not protest. No, you got to keep your eye on it. What's happening here? Nothing matters. Nothing matters if you tell yourself it doesn't matter. Like, you do shows, you do this, you do that, and then you have an earthquake in India where 400,000 people get killed. Trump told Larry King in that interview. Honestly, it doesn't matter.

I mean, he's kind of a, you know, he has a point. There are more times Trump said, it doesn't matter when it involves things that very much do matter to the American people. Well, this is HuffPost. When he didn't care to meet with the president of China to reignite

trade negotiations. How do you know he didn't care to meet with him? Maybe it was a strategy. You know? It says, in June, as the U.S. trade negotiations with China remain stalled, Trump appeared uninterested in meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping at the G20

summit in Japan. Trump said it doesn't matter whether Xi attended the G20. If he shows up, good, Trump said on the show. If he doesn't, in the meantime, we're taking in billions of dollars a month. Eventually, they're going to make a deal because they're going to have

to, he continued. Look, they're paying hundreds of billions of dollars. Is he right? Yes. See, one of the things that disturbs me is that his wild sort of bombastic behavior disguises the fact that he's correct about something.

Absolutely. Where it's hard for people to see it because they don't want it to be correct. That's right. Like the way he dealt with China, was that the right way to deal with China? Perhaps. Yeah. I mean, they did respond with a bioweapon that fucked us for two years. I will say that perhaps that wasn't.

Do you think maybe that's what happened? I mean, it could be. I just think that like- What are the odds? Yeah. If you had to look at a percent, what are the odds that that's what happened? Relatively high. 40?

I don't know if it's that high, but- 30? I don't know. I think you made a good point. You can't let the criminals just run amok. But the way to do that is to try to amass some type of power base. Right? Right.

And if people can do that with money, with influence, whatever they do, that's, you got to check people. You got to check people at the top. The only way seemingly to do that is to, you know, develop your own means of exchange, to develop your own means of, you know, getting your message out or being able to connect with like-minded people outside of the, you know, monopolized forms of social media. So all those things will evolve. And, you know, how they evolve, they seem somewhat essential and that's going to be a way to kind of keep, and then I guess run

for something if you really care. Right? But that, I mean, who the fuck wants to do that? Or find someone who's really good. Find someone who's really good for 10 months and then they become the criminals. You know what i mean that is what happens that's exactly what happens they get them they get inside and they compromise

you that's right and they compromise you and or they don't even compromise you they just go you like your job well we'll fund your opponent and destroy you if you don't do exactly what we want and you know you get caught up in that system. And this isn't designed to work. The things that have changed life more have been cell phones and things. They're not political solutions, really. If you look at the technological advancements, those are the things that have really changed people's lives. You can go on the internet. You can make a living.

The problem is people have taken control of these technological solutions for communication like Twitter or Facebook. And then they've compromised them and made them lean into their ideology. And that's human nature and that will probably always happen. That's why you've got to keep coming up with new things. You've got to keep evolving and keep figuring out new ways to do those things. I think you're right. I'm reluctant to agree, but I think you're right. This, all this metaverse, NFT, crypto shit.

I think you're probably right about that too. I don't know exactly how to approach it. It seems like it's going to require an enormous amount of time that I don't have to even think about it. Where do I have the inclination to continue it after this conversation? After this conversation is over, we're going to go to the green room, I'm going to have a bag of chips, and I'm going to go, what the fuck?

Have a cup of coffee. Here's the easiest way to do it right now. Connect me with your bank. Okay. Tim Dillon, you're the shit thank you so much great to be here tell everybody where you're going to be you're still touring right you got fat antibodies your antibodies are out of control shut us down in Toronto we'll be back out

we'll be back out in a few in a few in probably in a month but they shut it they Toronto cut capacity sucks. I should probably say this because I haven't yet. My 420 show that's sold out in Vancouver, I don't think that's happening. I don't think I can even get into the country. I'm not vaccinated. I'm not going to get vaccinated.

I have antibodies. It doesn't make any sense. I don't think I can go. make any sense I don't think I can go and even if I do go I don't trust that that Vancouver's not gonna follow suit along with the way Toronto did it yeah where they cut capacity to 50% yeah so we're just waiting right now we're gonna put some more dates you know we see Tim we've got we're in a are you doing American comedy come yeah we're gonna and then unfortunately this the UK is gonna be fucked too what made you decide to do American Comedy Company. Yeah, we're just doing that. Working on some new shit. And then, unfortunately, the UK is going to be fucked, too.

What made you decide to do American Comedy Company instead of doing a theater down there? Well, we had those dates on the books for a while. So we just had those dates on the books for a while. It's a great place, though. Yeah, it's fun. It's a fun club. It's not the worst place to be for a few days. No.

San Diego is a great fucking place to be for a few days. It's my favorite place in California now. Because they're still relatively free. Yeah. Although they have a wacky mayor now. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I think they got rid of one mayor and got a wacky mayor.

Dude, Palm Springs is still the best place. Is it? It's just 1940s. Really? I've never been. The desert out there is cool, man. It's just chill. People just don't care about anything.

But after you yelled at those lesbians about their Airbnb, are you allowed back? Well, that's Joshua Tree. They don't live in Palm Springs. They're animals. They live in the disgusting desert. Did you ever make up with those people? No, I'm off Airbnb for the rest of my life. Ever? But I don't care because Airbnb sucks and everyone's going back to hotels.

Everyone's going back to hotels. Why? What happened? Well, because all the services are back. The room service, the gym, the cool things, the restaurants. Nobody wants to do their own dishes anymore. Airbnb shorted. It's over. It's dying. And that's all I have to say about Airbnb.

It's going to be done soon. Okay. It's going to be done. It's stupid. The idea of it is stupid. Follow Tim Dillon on all social media platforms. Thank you. Social media.

Tim Dillon podcast. Listen to his podcast. One of the best podcasts on earth. Very nice of you to say it's bigger than mine it is bigger than Joe's by the numbers by all metrics

because here's the thing yours is not even on on YouTube no but if yours gets bigger they'll put it on YouTube mine's on YouTube it's big

that's I just have clips on YouTube alright goodnight do they censor you on YouTube at all oh I'm sure have they ever pulled one of your episodes

I don't think we don't get monetized. They don't give us money. What happened there? They haven't demonetized the channel, but we get partial monetization often, and then sometimes no monetization. They punish you for your wrong think.

Well, they punish me for the things I say. What are you saying that's so offensive? I agree with you. I'm with you. I'm on your side, but these people are out of control. You know? Goodbye, everybody. Good luck.