The Joe Rogan Experience - #1786 - Freddie Gibbs & Brian Moses

Episode Date: March 1, 2022

Freddie Gibbs is a rapper, founder of the ESGN music label, and 2020 Grammy Award Nominee. Brian Moses is a comedian, writer, creator, producer and host of Roast Battle. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Salute. Salute. Welcome. Freddie. Brian Moses. Nice to see you, gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Thanks for coming. How's Texas treating you? Back in this thing. Oh, shit. We went to a BYOB strip club last night Oh boy That's always rough I'm the BYOB king
Starting point is 00:00:29 Bring your own bitches Bring your own bud Bring your own Bullets Bullets for sure Bring your own motherfucking bullets Yeah Only thing it was
Starting point is 00:00:38 Was not bring your own blacks They had plenty of that there last night Then we showed up And you go to the races Jumping it off Yeah It's the last day of white guilt month We got to They had plenty of that there last night. Then we showed up. You going to race and shit. Jumping it off. It's the last day of white guilt month. We're going out with the bang. They're trying to get my man Rogan.
Starting point is 00:00:53 We can't be racist no more. You can try. Can we say nigga? You can. If I want to say it, I'll just pause and fill in the blanks. Just send it off to me. Just send it off to me, man. Just send it off to me, Joe. You can't Well, if I want to say, I'll just pause and then just fill in the blanks. Right. Just send it off to me. So anytime there's a video. Just send it off to me, man.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Just send it off to me, Joe. You can't say that shit, Joe. No. Because you pissed niggas off when you did that compilation. It was funny as fuck, though. I can't even lie, but, you know. Well, I didn't mean it as a compilation. But they made a compilation.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Oh, I am aware. And that shit was crazy. Yeah, not good. But, hey, man, look, I don't think you're a racist, my nigga. You my nigga. I'll fuck with you. I appreciate it. I never thought you was a racist. Yeah, not good. But, hey, man, look, I don't think you're a racist, my nigga. You my nigga. I fuck with you. I appreciate it. I never thought you was a racist.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I just think you're just saying some shit you should have said. And a lot of us niggas say some stuff that we shouldn't say sometimes. It is what it is. But that's the only word that, like, you can't say no matter what. Nah, you got to give that to us. That's the thing. I want to tell white people right now. Y'all just got to let us have that.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Like, quit trying to just let us have it, nigga. We got it. You know what I mean? Like, if there's one thing, you know what I mean? Y'all already human trafficked us over here. Let us have that. It's the most powerful world. World.
Starting point is 00:01:54 It's the most powerful word in the English, like, not the English language. It's every one of them. Right? Well, it's the most versatile, too. Right. As far as, like, it could either be hate hateful coming out of a white person's mouth or ignorant or it could be for a black person to be a punch line it could be a term of endearment yeah it could be many things yeah it's like what bernie max question motherfucker yeah
Starting point is 00:02:16 motherfucker's you know versatile see niggas niggas niggas niggas it's niggas are now the person plays the thing yeah it's a lot of things. Yeah. It's a verb, too. It's also pound for pound the greatest slur in history, you know? Yeah. The problem is there's no real slur that's stuck with white people. Like, who had a—Lonzo had a bit about it. Lonzo Bowden? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:37 What is it? I forget how it worked. No slur that's stuck with white people? Honky never really stuck. Honky ain't really—Honky don't sound good coming out. Cracker. No. Nothing. Cracker. Nope. Cr. Honky don't sound good coming out. Cracker. No. Nothing. Cracker.
Starting point is 00:02:46 They got another compilation coming out. Joe's being racist about white people. I try. I mean, Cracker just. Whitey, honky. It don't sound fresh. You know what I mean? You can say it, but it just sounds like some shit an old nigga would say.
Starting point is 00:02:58 There's just a lot attached to nigger, though. You said, you put, see, there you go. You transformed the word. You put the R on it. I stuck put the R on it. That changes shit. That changes shit when you say that. Even when black people say it with a hard R, it sounds funny. What is that word that South Africans have?
Starting point is 00:03:16 They have a word, it was in Lethal Weapon. Remember that movie? Yeah, which one? One of the ones where the evil people were the South African people. They were the apartheid people people were the South African people? They call black people Different word a cotton yes something like like that like a cotton pickin
Starting point is 00:03:37 We're not airing this episode They got to they have to hey fuck me fuck Neil Young man, let me tell you something about Neil Young Hey Neil Young man. I know you want to get Joe off this motherfucker, right? But look, dog, my nigga, you pulled your shit off, but would you have pulled it if it was only the nigga shit? If you thought Joe was a racist, would you have stood up for niggas? I think not. No, yeah, Neil didn't say anything when the N-word drop came out.
Starting point is 00:04:02 He didn't say nothing about that. He was all about that vaccine and misinformation. In his defense, that was before. He did his thing before. Well, he should have doubled back for niggas. Fuck that. Only thing I was mad at you, Joe, man, you fucked up with India Ari, man. You had a lot of bitches that couldn't put their shea butter on. She pulled that motherfucker shit off Spotify.
Starting point is 00:04:19 You fucked up shea butter for niggas. With India Ari, man. Shout out to India Ari. Please put your music back up. We love you, baby girl. I love her, too. I love her voice. Jordan meanish.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And you know what? I also support what she's saying. One of the things that she's saying is that why doesn't she get paid well for streams? It's a predatory business, man. It is. The music business,
Starting point is 00:04:40 the way the record companies own the artists, you could speak to this. Yeah, I'm out of this shit. I'm about to do a podcast, man. Are you? Yeah, fuck this rap shit. This podcast shit make way more motherfucking money than the motherfucking price of the
Starting point is 00:04:52 motherfucking stream of some rap shit. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hold on. Let's go back to N.A.D.R.E. No. She jumped on your scandal so she could push her own agenda? No.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I mean, I think she was genuinely upset. Okay. She had a right to be upset. Yes, but I also think that she used it as an opportunity to express her plight. Right. You know, express herself about her plight, because artists that don't own their music,
Starting point is 00:05:16 someone else got your music and a lot of them, it was before streaming even existed, right? So they had these contracts where they thought they were selling records, and you'd sell records for a certain amount of time, and then someone else would own the right to the music, but that's fine.
Starting point is 00:05:30 You already sold the records. You got your piece or whatever. Man, it's a predatory business, man. Artists don't, you know, if you don't know the equation, you know, you ain't gonna, you know, you're not gonna succeed. You know, most artists don't know that your rate of debt versus your, you know, rate of recoupment.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Right. You know what I mean? In terms of, like, rate of recoupment. Right. You know what I mean? In terms of how much money they spend promoting you. You know, if a label give you a million dollars, you know what I'm saying, you're only going to recoup that at like, you know, say if your percentage per se is like 20%, you're only going to recoup that at a 20% rate. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:58 And then, you know. This shit sounds like musical slavery. And then once you recoup that at that 20% rate, so how long would it take you to recoup a million dollars at a 20% rate? And then if you recoup that, you know what I'm saying, you start gaining at a 20% rate. Courtney Love broke it down in an article once. She wrote an article explaining how they do their mathematics, like how they do their accounting.
Starting point is 00:06:22 The math and music is fucked up. The crazy thing is that they kept it going even after streaming came along. Because the record sales were gone. Right. And now the way they do it, they have a piece. They make these deals with the artists where they have the piece of your merchandise. They have a piece of your live. Like the live.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yes. The live used to be all the artists. Yeah. But now they get a piece of everything. Because they had to because they don't sell records anymore right yeah so they have the streaming they have a little piece of this a little piece of that they got a piece of most most artists yeah not freddie is well you're popular enough that you can escape there's like a thing called escape velocity but i don't know
Starting point is 00:07:00 this motherfucker's more popular than me that's that's fucked yeah they got stuck in a contract though right it is what it is you know i mean it just depends on what level of this game you want But I don't know, this motherfucker's more popular than me. That's fucked. Yeah, they got stuck in a contract, though, right? Yeah, it is what it is. You know what I mean? It just depends on what level of this game you want to be. You know what I mean? You know, I really didn't give a fuck about being super famous as a motherfucking rapper, man. I wanted to turn a profit.
Starting point is 00:07:17 You know what I mean? And, you know, use this to, you know, put me in positions to do other things as well. You know, because I'm, you know, definitely more versatile than just a rapper, you know. Well, you have the most important thing for podcasts. You got authenticity. Definitely. Real nigga. Real nigga.
Starting point is 00:07:33 We count the niggas, Spotify? It's like 99 niggas. It doesn't count if you guys say it. It's clean. It's clean. We're at zero. Clean bill of health for this motherfucker, man. We done brought Joe back, man motherfucker we done brought Joe back man
Starting point is 00:07:45 we done brought Joe back Joe yeah last couple days of black history my Joe was like yeah man Joe we done brought
Starting point is 00:07:54 Joe back not a good month for it not a good month for it well you know this is my favorite two weeks of the year
Starting point is 00:07:59 I know something you could do you could donate some shit Joe what do I gotta donate to to the hood
Starting point is 00:08:04 like I got some little shit you could donate to some little hood shit and gear you could do. You could donate some shit, Joe. What do I get to donate to? To the hood. Like, I got some little shit you could donate to, some little hood shit and gear. You could rebuild a park. Yeah, shit. You know what I'm saying? I'd be happy to. See? There we go. See, that's how we make progress, niggas.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Nigga. People think drug dealers don't give back to the community. That's what I'm saying. But look, though. We had conversations. We tore it down with crack, and then Joe's going to build it back up with money. Well, I've been talking about that forever. It's with money. Well, I've been talking about that forever. It's full circle, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:08:27 I've been talking about that forever. It's about time I put my money where my mouth is. Dude, I mean, I got some programs you could get into, man, and niggas would really love that, man. You know what I'm saying? And then what can a motherfucker say, man? How come when people are talking about pulling their stuff off Spotify, they didn't say, go put your music on a black streaming platform? Do they have music streaming platforms for black people?
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah, nigga. Title, Jay-Z on one. No, they sold that to Twitter, right? Or Jack Dorsey? I don't know the business of some shit. I thought that Jay-Z, shout out to Jay-Z. He was the first motherfucker to do that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:59 What did Kanye do? He did some crazy thing where you have to buy a player to listen to his music. Genius. Genius. He did the Louis C.K. thing, basically. He told you. You got to go to my website and buy this shit. You got to go buy a Walkman to listen to Kanye new shit.
Starting point is 00:09:14 It really is. Like, what is this? Okay. A stem player. Oh, shit. I thought that was a vibrator. It looks like one of them containers where a girl keeps the pill. Right. Right? Doesn't it girl keeps the pill. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Right? Doesn't it look like the pill? Yeah. So, okay, look at this little. Or like one of those Simon Says. Whoa, look at this shit. He probably designed this thing. I think he bought it.
Starting point is 00:09:37 He bought it, but it looks like something that he would design. Wouldn't it look like something, Kanye? For sure, yeah. Kanye's in the future, bro. That's crazy. He's in another realm, for sure. Nigga, what do you plug in the aux? There is an aux port.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Oh, it's an aux port over there. So is there a headphones port? You have to get separate headphones? No, so there's a little port for that. What you can do here, he's remixing the stems. There's a vocal stem, bass stem, sample stem and drums and you can sort of loop it.
Starting point is 00:10:07 So you can change like the... You can remix it live. A synthesizer? He's doing it right there. So you can remix his shit. What?
Starting point is 00:10:15 You can also remix your own shit there too using the same player. Really? Oh, it's not just a player. This is brilliant. I'm going to tell you niggas this.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I'm not letting you niggas remix my shit. The way it come out is the way it come out none of that motherfucker you're one of them chefs no no no you can't change the remix your own remix that shit yourself man listen i can't modify i feel you entirely but i do love a remix like you know what i love have you ever heard when they put biggie in with the white albumbum? Yeah. Right. It's amazing. Jay-Z and the Beatles. The Grey Album. That's not a... That's the mash-up shit. But a bunch of people have done these. R. Kelly is the king of the remix.
Starting point is 00:10:52 You know, but the Jay-Z and the White Album, 99 Problems. Well, they did 99 Problems with Hendrix, too. Did you ever hear that? No. It's amazing. It's a voodoo child mixed with 99 Problems. It's outstanding. I'm with it. Let's go. We can't talk about remixes without R. Kelly
Starting point is 00:11:08 He put the R in R&B I thought Puffy created the remix R. Kelly R. Kelly do some fire remixes too He do some fire remixes Did he remix nigga too R. Kelly is a very talented pedophile Damn man Probably the most talented pedophile. Damn, man. Probably the most talented
Starting point is 00:11:25 pedophile outside of Woody Allen. It's hard to tell. Are we ranking them? I bet some of them have died. Woody Allen is a piece of shit. And they didn't get caught. Woody Allen is a piece of shit because he's still out. He's still out. That's bullshit. Somebody need to head up a burst that nigga like they did Cosby. They've been trying,
Starting point is 00:11:42 bro, but you know. That nigga fucked his stepdaughter. So did Jerry Lee Lewis do that too? I'm so glad trying, bro. But, you know. That nigga fucked his stepdaughter. So did, uh, didn't Jerry Lee Lewis do that, too? I'm so glad I'm not the one talking about this. That's some sick shit. No, Jerry Lee Lewis married, like, a cousin, I think. Is that what it was? A cousin. Well, damn.
Starting point is 00:11:58 That's the least of his problems. There's some other stuff that he did. That's the least of his problems. I mean, I don't want to speak out of turn because I don't know exactly what's real and what's not. There's too many remakes. Compilations. 13-year-old cousin. For Joe out of context.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah, a 13-year-old cousin who married her. Yo. A tabloid sensation at the time tarnished Lewis's reputation and did some damage to his career. So in 1958, in some parts of the country, you could still marry a 13 year old. That's what we're learning. That's how crazy the world has changed in the short amount of time.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Since 1958, in 1958, he thought it was totally normal to marry a 13 year old while he was famous. I think in some of these states, like the legal age of consent still like teen shit. There's some country monkey breadneck shit going on with this motherfucker. Let's take a guess. What do you think the youngest age of consent in this country is?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Let's just take a guess. 16. 16? 14, I think, in some states. I bet it's different for boys. What? I bet there's an age consent for boys that's younger than that. Oh, no no i think there
Starting point is 00:13:06 is look up the age of consent for boys in new mexico oh for having sex you're saying uh-huh okay to have sex okay to have consensual sex i think there was some wacky laws that they made back in the day and it could have been something to do with famous, important people that had something to do with fucking kids? Why is that a thing? You know? I mean, it is a thing. Well, it is a thing. It's a terrible taboo that everyone's scared is real.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I don't know what's real. It says it's legal for an adult, someone 18. Oh, it's illegal for someone 18 or older to have sex with a minor, someone younger than 16. Okay, so 16 is the age. I hit it on the head. Did it older to have sex with a minor someone younger than 16 okay so 16 is the age i hit it on the head did it used to be younger that's there's something here where it says like yeah 13 to 16 but depending on how much older the other person any button okay anyone between the age of 13 and 16 can consent with a sex with a person who is no more than four years their senior, but that's kind of normal
Starting point is 00:14:05 I mean like high school. Yeah, well 16 to 20 is a little weird, but like 13 to 7 Yeah, that's what we're talking about you for it right cuz that's like, you know high schoolers haven't I didn't watch that What is it about Just some high school shit motherfucker doing dope fucking What is it about? Just some high school shit. Motherfuckers doing dope fucking and shit like that. Remember that movie Kids?
Starting point is 00:14:28 Exactly. I feel like I've heard it's like that. It's in that realm. I like it. It's dope. Kids the musical. It's amazing. It's a weird choice for a show to make.
Starting point is 00:14:38 What? High schoolers fucking? Yeah. And doing drugs? I mean. What are you doing in high school? I mean, they do do it. It's grown. Motherfuckers play the roles. I mean, dirty. I mean, what are you doing in high school, you know? I mean, they do do it, you know? There's grown motherfuckers playing the roles, but, you know, they act like they in high school. I remember being in junior high, I saw a girl.
Starting point is 00:14:52 She did a, like, she snorted crystal meth at, like, the playground, you know? So, I mean, like, drugs are a thing. Yeah, but I'm from, like, the high desert, so, you know. Dude, I've been watching this YouTube series. That's, like, white high school shit, man. Yeah, it was Mexican. Like, we was just smoking some weed and drinking some. Yeah, it was Mexican. We was just smoking some weed and drinking some drink
Starting point is 00:15:06 in the bathroom with Gary. We wasn't dead. The niggas in my high school wasn't snorting no goddamn shit. I didn't really have a lot of niggas in my high school. That's like heavy pill community when you start smoking
Starting point is 00:15:16 crystal meth at school. Yeah. That's, you got no guidance. You got no guidance. I've been watching this YouTube series. It's called Soft White Underbelly. Have you heard of it?
Starting point is 00:15:26 No. The fuck? Dude, I'm telling you, it's fucking crazy. It's a great YouTube channel, and one of the things it has on it is this inbred family from the Appalachian Mountains. Dude, it's the craziest shit. This one guy barks like a dog. What?
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah, this was a guy who's a mountain man. They had him up there. But he also, he interviews gambling addicts. He interviews people that are hooked on crystal meth. He interviewed a few meth heads, a skinhead. He interviewed a con man. I've watched like 10 of them over the last week. The guy's great.
Starting point is 00:16:02 They out there. He just lets these people Where the fuck is the dental plan? express themselves. Where's the dental plan? In the Appalachians, they don't have a dental plan. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:16:10 They don't even have toothbrushes. Guys, when that guy was growing up, I bet they had no toothbrushes. He has three teeth. Yeah. Aren't they like coal miners and shit out there?
Starting point is 00:16:20 In some areas, yeah. I mean, in some areas, there's parts of Appalachia that are like gentrified now or they have like, like, regular houses and normal people, and it's like a normal city. But there's parts of Appalachia that don't have any electricity. You know, they live, you know, very far away from a lot of society, and there's a history of drug abuse up there unfortunately in deep poverty and this guy interviewed quite a few of these people and he interviewed this one family that
Starting point is 00:16:50 was inbred and he interviewed this one guy who basically was just talking about like we weren't poor because we had everything we needed we could live off the land we hunted for our food we fished but it's like he's living a subsistence lifestyle that was the guy with the mountain man with three teeth it's interesting shit man i think he lost the teeth from the drugs i don't, but it's like he's living a subsistence lifestyle. That was the guy with the mountain man with three teeth It's interesting shit, man. I think you lost the teeth from the drugs I don't know if it's necessarily just doing the it might have been but I don't think so. I don't know I mean I'm looking at it's hard to tell though man. It's hard to tell like who's doing meth But there's if you ever seen the wonderful whites of West Virginia. Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:23 Like that. Yeah. Well those people that that part of the country is just obsessed with pills or just infested with pills. It's horrible. I don't even like driving through there on tour. I'd be like, fuck this shit. I'm catching a plane. It's scary shit, man. Yeah, because they still might lynch you. Those people just got a shitty roll of the dice, man.
Starting point is 00:17:43 That's where you grew up. You just got a bum roll of the dice, man. That's where you grew up. You just got a bum roll of the dice. Until we realize that, like as Americans, that not everybody started in the same spot, we're never going to fix anything. Yeah. We got to realize. All this pull you up by your bootstrap shit, where the fuck were your bootstraps? Where were they?
Starting point is 00:18:00 Were your bootstraps in a gang-infested neighborhood? Were your bootstraps in a trailer park in Appalachia? Where the fuck were your bootstraps? What if you got no goddamn boots? You might have been in Connecticut, bitch. You might have grew up in New Haven, Connecticut. Well, that's why I talk about parents and education. I mean, that's the first time I came on here talking about that.
Starting point is 00:18:17 It's all about education. Just feed them a book. You know what I mean? Well, it's also about the culture you're growing up in and how safe you are. How safe you are to even explore ideas. You might just be trying to survive. You're living in the Appalachian. Your fucking parents are on pills, and they punch you every time you try to eat food.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I mean, what the fuck? That's a little kid out there that's probably having – he's probably having that experience right now. It could be a cultural thing if we're really getting into it, though, right? Because not every faction of people are like that, right? Like we're talking about people in the inner city, like that's a that's a culture of you know gang violence like they're growing up in that right but if you look at let's say maybe a jewish neighborhood right they're not punching their kids you know i mean right losing the teeth doing the drugs kind of a thing they're not they don't have a bunch of gangs running around kind of a thing italian neighborhoods
Starting point is 00:19:00 right you don't really see all that kind of stuff so i'm saying it really does take a village but you mean they ain't got no gang? They got the mafia. Yeah, but are they running around killing, you know? They used to be. The FBI kind of obliterated them. So that helped the community more? I mean, why isn't it helping us?
Starting point is 00:19:16 It's a good point. That's a good point. You know, one of the things I always say, it's like, if you want to make America great again, or you want to make America better, you have to have less losers. What's the way to have less losers? Give people a chance to succeed. So you look at the people who have the worst chances of succeeding. It's people that grow up in crime-infested, drug-infested, gang-infested neighborhoods.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Right. Because everywhere around you is terrible examples, and mostly what people do is we imitate our atmosphere. Right. And when your atmosphere is filled with terrible examples of crime, drugs, gang violence, all kinds of violence, it's casual,
Starting point is 00:19:50 casual murder. You know, that's, that's people in parts of this country. But that comes from like, that comes from like lack of opportunity though.
Starting point is 00:19:56 It does. It also comes from lack of attention. Like if you looked at the United States as an organism, right, and you said, oh,
Starting point is 00:20:02 well the organism has these spots that are sick. Very, very obvious spots you know south side chicago detroit look at these spots that are in some of them you understand how did this happen oh detroit they took the fucking car manufacturing business and they moved it to another place and these people didn't have jobs and they were fucked and they were stuck there and they didn't have enough money to leave they just shut everything down so you get rampant
Starting point is 00:20:23 part you could buy a house in detroit for like a thousand dollars it's crazy that isn't gary i'm not bullshitting right he's like same thing gary with the steel industry exactly and then i just looked at some stuff the other day it was like uh it's like the steel industry shrunk yeah and like now and it's shrinking even more now it's like 43 but uh steel you know last year was imported isn't the water in fl, Michigan still fucked up? Oh, yeah, hell yeah. I think parts, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that real?
Starting point is 00:20:48 Motherfucker, water look like this goddamn... What's going on with the water in Flint, Michigan? Is it still fucked up? On that Flint water. Yeah. We drinking Flint water right now. Remember when Obama drank it on the air? I'm going to drink this water.
Starting point is 00:20:59 It's not a stunt. He had a little, like, the most baby sip of this water. Right. Because he didn't want to die. No, he didn't want to die. It was a black nigga that came with a truck and was making clean water out there, motherfucker, and they shut his shit down. He was making clean water and they shut his shit down?
Starting point is 00:21:14 He was making clean water. Like a filter system? You can Google that shit, man. Oh, he probably didn't have a permit. Why did Obama drink like that? So if you're going to have a glass of some bullshit water, take a fucking sip. It wasn't the same thing the bush when he ate the In China and he threw up because it was like it was poisoned or something like that
Starting point is 00:21:30 Who hw what happened with him? Yeah, didn't he have a he threw up? Yeah threw up So I threw up in someone's lap or some shit right right and he he didn't eat much I you know, I don't even know this he might have just been old and tired at that point No, but that food and threw up. Yeah the joy. He might have just been old and tired. At that point? No, but that... Ate some food and threw up. Yeah, the joy... Yeah, there we go. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:21:48 He fainted after vomiting in the guy's lap. Gastroentonitis. I'm sorry. Yeah, gastro... Okay, so he had... So it wasn't poison. Yeah, right. He had...
Starting point is 00:21:58 Well, that's what gastro... There was a person who was poisoned, though. It wasn't ours. I think that might have been... What does gastroentonitis mean? Is that food poisoning? I guess stomachache. Stomachache. Oh,ache oh stomachache oh he had the shits he had none but the bubble guts and he fell asleep he blacked out what do you eat what do you eat some sushi
Starting point is 00:22:13 i mean it's just the most disrespectful shit i do it man sushi you know if he wasn't a world war ii veteran i'd be like listen you can't be president anymore if you keep fainting he's i thought people this is what I was talking about. He just blacked out and threw up in the dude's lap. That's crazy. They thought they did it. So I remember at the time they said they thought they did this on purpose, the Chinese delegation or whatever. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Right? Well, you know what, man? I think that job. I didn't see that. I got to post it on the ground. I think that job wrecks people, man. I think that job wrecks people. The president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, the amount of attention that you get when you're working that job is probably off the charts. You probably can't sleep. Like, everyone, look at Obama. His hair went gray almost immediately. Trump would never be the same. Trump looked better. Dude, Trump skated through it. I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:23:00 He skated through it. Trump didn't age at all. Cold medicine. He was just taking Adderall and riding the wave. I think Trump is one of those dudes where he doesn't do drugs unless the doctor prescribes it. You know what I mean? Like there's a part of our parents' era where like, I don't do drugs. Meanwhile, they're on Xanax.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Like, hey, what the fuck are you talking about you're on a crazy drug right that's a crazy drug right and you're driving the kids adderall yeah yeah you're drinking and you do xanax you tell me you don't do drugs how convenient popping perks and you're mad that's the what drives me crazy is when they're mad at weed smokers like we are the only ones the only ones that when we're high we're nicer right right we're the only ones when i'm high i'm so friendly i want to hug everybody i'm never angry when i'm never yeah exactly don't care about that shit i just want camaraderie and friendship and love and that's an illegal drug right and the fucking people that are drinking and popping Xanax, they're upset at you?
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yeah. Weed brings us together. Definitely does. Yeah. But there's a lot of things that weed also highlights that make you super uncomfortable. People get high and they get paranoid as fuck, but I think it's because you should be. There's a fucking war going on right now. There's a crazy war going on right now in Russia.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Excuse me, in Ukraine. war going on right now there's a crazy war going on right now in russia and i spent excuse me in ukraine i i've been i spent the last day and a half watching videos on it trying to figure out what the fuck is going on and it's complicated it's really complicated but what it seems is that russia is worried that um ukraine has massive reserves of oil and of gas. And so Russia took over Crimea, and Crimea denies them access to a lot of their coastline when Russia did that. And then Ukraine was apparently, they were trying to, or at least in talks, to join NATO. I'm sorry if I fuck any of this up,
Starting point is 00:25:02 because I'm just remembering what I read and what I watched in videos. But what they're essentially saying is that Crimea and Ukraine, they want that for the natural resources and also because if that was NATO owned, if they were part of NATO
Starting point is 00:25:18 rather, then they could park missiles in Ukraine and point it towards Russia. It's wild shit because they used to all be in the same country. Not that long ago. They were all part of the Soviet Union. NATO and Russia obviously don't get along, so it's like, yeah, if there's a sovereign nation being like, hey, flirting with NATO, they're like, no, I don't want your military bases here.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's obviously horrific. That's going to create World War III. It's obviously horrific. I'm not in any way saying that I'm on the side of the Russians in any way. I'm definitely not. But what I'm saying is this is what's going on. I'm on the side of the Russians in any way. I'm definitely not. But what I'm saying is this is what's going on. I'm just trying to relay the information as I know it
Starting point is 00:25:51 as what the conflict is without a judgment. I'm not making any judgment. I see all these people making these judgments on whether or not this is a good war, a bad war, and I'm like, man, how much do we know? How much time has anybody spent studying Ukraine, Russian? No such thing as good war.
Starting point is 00:26:10 No such thing. That's crazy. When you got missiles, they're firing into apartment buildings. There's no way those are the good guys. You shoot a missile in a fucking apartment building? What the fuck is happening? If you're not valuing life, you can't be a good person. Shit, the US do it all the time and that's the point but this is what i was gonna get
Starting point is 00:26:29 to somebody put a chart up which is wild of all of the airstrikes that happened over the last like 48 hours they're constantly going on these airstrikes and the wild thing is the drone move the drone move is like you can be a war and you're not even really there Yeah, like you don't even have to have a reason to enter a country and you could launch missiles from robots And you could be in Nevada bro with an Xbox controller controlling it just murdering people Well, if you if you're smart You've played video games against someone who really knows how to use one of those fucking controllers. If you had a guy and he really knew his shit, wouldn't you recruit him to work for the fucking army?
Starting point is 00:27:11 Yeah. I've also been saying this about like peeping Toms. Get you a drone, bro. Stay in your mom's basement. You know what I mean? Don't go in the trees and the bushes. Don't go giving him any ideas. My bad.
Starting point is 00:27:20 But for real, if they can make a drone that would respond the same way an Xbox controller would respond, who is going to beat Americans? Nobody. We just have robot wars. Yeah, exactly. But actually, who's the best at Xbox? Is there one country, Jamie? You would know this.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Is there one country that dominates at Call of Duty? Is it Korea? Oh, they dominate a lot of video games. Korea dominates it a lot. It's like those E-Leagues, right? I think those kids kill it. They built stadiums over there. They do.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Stadiums. That's crazy. With people playing video games. Like they did it with StarCraft and which country kicks the most ass after video games? Hard to say the game.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah, I mean Call of Duty. Okay, let's go Call of Duty because that's the most It's mostly an American-based game but but they're playing it in every country, and there's people that cheat in every country, so you couldn't cheat when you're doing drone strikes and stuff. Of course you could. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:28:12 That would be perfect. You would want to cheat drone strikes. You could, but that's not cheating. That's just drone striking. That's not cheating. That's just using all advantages. Tell them to do the war in the metaverse. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:21 The thing is, if you can get a person to do it, there are dudes that are so goddamn good with those controllers. They play so many video games. All they would have to do is make a video game sort of interface where the guy is watching the drone. The drone looks like it's in a video game, and he would never miss. Never.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Hell no. Just be lighting people up. They already got that shit. What? I'm sure they do. That shit he talking about. I'm sure they do, right? Yeah. I mean, we have propaganda for it. Then we have, like, ads about, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:48 join the army, you can do this kind of a thing. The more I pay attention, the more I think these UFO sightings, a lot of these UFO sightings are military aircraft they're developing. The more I think about it, the more I think about how willing they are to talk about it, they're willing to talk
Starting point is 00:29:04 about the fact that, you know, that there are these ships that they can't track and they're moving at insane rates of speed. They're willing to talk about it. It's like one of two things. Either it's aliens or they've developed some kind of crazy technology, some anti-gravitational technology. I think it's aliens. It could be. But it might not be.
Starting point is 00:29:27 That's the thing. Why is there so much defense? We can develop a lot of shit We could develop nuclear power we can develop we can develop nuclear missiles Hypersonic jets jets that go faster than the speed of sound Spaceships we could develop a lot of shit. I think you just figure out a way to develop something that Distorts gravity you know because this has always been the thought of it like a thing that can distort gravity can act instead of like a like bob lazar talked about this when he talked about back engineering ufos instead of like blowing fire out of the back of a rocket there's something that just distorts gravity can go to a place almost instantaneously yo we need that they're gonna figure that out, man Airplanes and air travel is weak right now Give me that shit
Starting point is 00:30:06 It'll be instantaneous What's up with the defense of humans versus humans, though? I mean, like, I know it's human nature But maybe it's an earthling thing, even But we spend so much money and so much brain power On just, like, defending each other from each other I mean, what's the point? Not very rarely individually
Starting point is 00:30:21 The thing is, it's almost all in groups We're fucked because our heritage, all of our ancestors, came from these small groups of people that huddled up together to stay alive and everybody outside of our group was the enemy. So we all have this programming that sucks and this programming is based on ancient history.
Starting point is 00:30:41 It's based on a time where there was no internet, there was no international travel, everywhere you went, if a boat showed up on your your shore those are murderers those like eight eight times out of ten you know they would let you know they had a fly with a skull on it they had a flag with a fucking skull on it right North America this Captain Cook's they know all that shit those bad motherfuckers they were they were they would show up if someone showed up if it was like Christopher Columbus if he showed up if you knew What the fuck was gonna happen you would have grabbed everybody and ran for the hills
Starting point is 00:31:15 You would have never stayed near those crazy fucks first of all the diseases second of all the brutality I was reading this thing about Columbus where they were talking about Columbus hacked off people's arms. Like not him himself, but his people. There was a preacher that came with them and they would tell these people because the people brought them gold as gifts. And they said, you got to bring back your weight in gold. And when they didn't, they would just hack off one of their arms and send them back out there to get gold. It's crazy. See if you can find it.
Starting point is 00:31:46 There's a priest wrote about it in his journal. That's our American hero, Christopher Columbus. The whole team of them were sociopaths and murderers. He did that to the Native Americans? Yes. You piece of shit, Christopher Columbus. And then- So you're like a cartel, basically.
Starting point is 00:32:00 That's the most brutal, but not even the worst of it. The worst of it was the diseases. Now they think that's what that's the most brutal but not even the worst of it the worst of it was the diseases now they think that's what killed off the mayans that's what killed off 90 of the native americans that's that covid it was their covid yeah it was smallpox and all kinds of diseases they brought with them from europe they killed everybody in the amazon dude they're finding civilizations in the amazon that housed millions of people and they're finding civilizations in the Amazon that housed millions of people. And they're finding them through this thing called LIDAR where they fly over in jets because the jungle's overtaken all these cities. So there used to be cities of millions of people in the Amazon.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Really? And the Europeans showed up. And they just got them sick and everybody died. And when people came back to look for these cities, like 50 years later, they were gone. Just like Detroit's almost gone. Detroit's got houses where trees are growing in the middle of it. But this is even crazier because it's in the middle of the jungle, so it's happening quicker. Right. Yo, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Europeans just came over and just murked everybody? Murked everybody. Murked everybody with their cooties. Europeans came over here with their cooties. They put smallpox on blankets. No, no, no. That's a myth, man. That's a myth?
Starting point is 00:33:06 Yeah, most likely. They just tell us that it's food. I heard about that too and I looked into it. They don't think they isolated smallpox that way. They don't think they understood it that way. I was just gonna say, that'd be pretty fucking genius.
Starting point is 00:33:17 It would be. But they made COVID for sure. The thing is, they probably did that. Because it's airborne, so yeah, they were just getting the shit. Everybody was getting it.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And it killed 90% of the Native Americans. 90 it's airborne, so yeah, they were just getting the shit. Everybody was getting it. And it killed 90% of the Native Americans. 90% of them, man. You think about a disease that kills 9 out of 10 people. And it just swept through the entire continent. And all the Mayans. They were trying to figure out where the fuck did these people go? They made Chichen Itza, which is, have you ever been down there?
Starting point is 00:33:45 No. Yeah. Dude, I went down there. It's wild. You walk amongst this place. You're like, what is this? How did they do this? They did this like a thousand plus years ago.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Like, what is this? What the fuck is this? It's all aligned to the different constellations. They have a room that they have set up just to do psychedelic drugs in yo yeah yeah we had a drug we had a guy who was a guide who was a professor this really interesting guy we hired this Mexican gentleman who knew everything about the Mayans and he spoke fluent English and Spanish so we explained it to you in Spanish and explained to you in English and he said this was a whole area where they take these leaves that contain lysergic acid, which is like LSD.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And he was explaining this to me. And he didn't even know that I liked to do drugs. Right. He was just telling me like I'm like a civilian. He was just drooling. And I'm like, okay, keep talking. I'm like, I knew it. I fucking knew it.
Starting point is 00:34:42 They had to be doing something. Right. They were so much more advanced. All the ingenuity and all that. I mean, I'll say this about that. I mean, you're saying Europeans can never did this. Yeah. You know, we weren't, we were alive for World War II, but this conflict is the first time
Starting point is 00:34:56 I've seen white people fight white people. Right. You know what I mean? Like, this is kind of, I feel like this, this may change some things in the history books. Are you talking about with the Russian shit? Yeah. Russian and the Ukraine. I've never seen this. It's always us and the Middle East or something like that.
Starting point is 00:35:12 But now this is like, this is white versus whites. This in the history books, we'll see that. So I think there's a progression in a way. I think people will see like, oh, it's not just these guys are evil. White people can be evil, too. It's a human thing where people can get to a certain place where they have a certain amount of power and they want to hold on to it and they do evil shit. It's a human thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Ukraine is hard, though. And they got the boxers in there. I mean, like, yeah, Lomachenko's out there. They got Vitaly Klitschko, Vladimir Klitschko, and Lomachenko, and Usyk. And Usyk is there, too. They're all armed to the teeth. And all the ladies out there, all the volunteers, hard, bro. Isn't Miss Ukraine in there?
Starting point is 00:35:53 Like, Miss Universe? Wasn't she, like, a Miss Universe contestant? I saw a picture that they said that was an airsoft gun. Oh, they lied. This is the problem. There's so much lies. Yeah, we don't know what's happening over there. They got a politician bitch I seen with the motherfucking AK-47.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Hey, Nancy Pelosi would never have an AK-47 if she was a motherfucking- Not a chance. Not a chance. With Biden, with Trump, with Obama. Bro, they got me with a parody. They showed Steven Seagal. It was like somebody made a parody of a CNN article that said Steven Seagal is in Ukraine. I saw that.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And I was like, oh my God, if this is real. And I lazily looked for like five minutes, and then I couldn't find if it was fake or real. And I just posted it and saying that we're about 14 hours from the aliens landing. And people were like, why did you believe it's real? I'll tell you why. Steven Seagal was listed as a threat to the fucking nation of Ukraine in 2017. Yeah. They won't let him in the country. He's banned.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Yeah. He's a threat to national security. Steven Seagal, above the law, the actor. Look at my Instagram page. Washington Post story from fucking 2017. It's a legit news source. He was labeled a threat to national
Starting point is 00:37:03 security. Above the law. That guy. He is though. In Ukraine. So when I saw that he was in Ukraine, it was a parody. I was like, I could believe that. I can't believe that. Have you seen it?
Starting point is 00:37:15 I'm trying to find the link. Just write, Steven Seagal banned from Ukraine 2017. I know. Sounds like a movie plot one. Taking over the searches. There we go. Yeah, this is it Ukraine banned Steven Seagal's threat to national What the fuck I think a fat as fuck it's so crazy. Can you do can you still fight like that? What he does is a thing called Aikido and it's a very unusual martial art in that
Starting point is 00:37:44 It's really designed for samurais to fight someone with a sword. So if you lose your sword in combat, this is the origins of it. Okay. If you lose your sword and you come after a dude who knows Aikido, he tries to transfer the energy of your attack and counter it. And throw you. Just like throws and trips and a lot of clothesline stuff. And Steven Seagal adopted it to movies
Starting point is 00:38:08 and made it very fun. Because it did seem like a lot of motherfuckers that was fighting him was running into him and just getting fucked up. Of course, but that was a movie. A lot of their stuff was choreographed, unfortunately. But there is some legitimacy to some of their movements. There's some legitimacy to these wrist locks
Starting point is 00:38:24 and controlling arms and throwing people. The problem is it won't work on someone who's like a really good wrestler. It's like one of those things we get really good at and be an expert at it but you still won't be as good as an expert at another martial art. This is Steven Seagal. Steven Seagal was a legit Aikido black belt but like look at this. Look at this guy's attack and he's just throwing him to the ground. Let me tell you something. If Daniel Cormier shot in on that dude and got a hold of his legs, he'd hoist him up in the air and drop him on his head 100% of the time.
Starting point is 00:38:53 The difference between what he's doing, and he's a master at Aikido. I mean, he really is. He's a master. Damn. But the difference is it's not as good or it's not as effective a martial art as wrestling or as judo or as jujitsu. It's an interesting martial art but when it comes to like being able to take people down
Starting point is 00:39:12 nobody can fuck with judo. When it comes to like with the gi grabbing sleeves and throwing. And when it comes to like taking people down you know just double legs and single legs no one can fuck with wrestlers. So you have no one can fuck with the throws of judo guys no one can fuck with wrestlers so you have no one can fuck with the throws of judo guys no one can fuck with the takedowns of wrestlers versus this it's
Starting point is 00:39:30 not a bad thing to learn it's interesting it's good for your health you get some exercise but yeah that looked crazy come on now that shit didn't look like shit i would have ran up on that yeah now show some like hey somebody getting jumped into a gang. Let's see somebody getting jumped. But let me tell you something. He does know how to strike a little bit. He does. Steven Seagal does. Like, no bullshit.
Starting point is 00:39:55 He knows how to close. A lot of it is kind of nonsensical. I'm talking shit. Don't fuck me up. I was talking shit, man. Also, he's a big fucking dude. He's 100 years old. He's 100 years old. He's 100 years old. Oh, shit. But he's a big dude.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Also, he knows how to block all the punches and all that. He knows how to do a lot. Just because someone's kind of funny, it's kind of funny. He's kind of a character, right? He's like Karate's Phil Jackson. He's kind of a karate. He's kind of like a traditional martial arts character, but he still is a legit martial artist.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Even though he's kind of funny, he does a lot of wacky movies and shit, but he runs weird. He inspired a whole generation, bro. UFC is here because of Steven Seagal. And above the law, I loved him in that movie. Hard to kill. Oh, my God. But above the law was the first time you saw what I thought was like realistic fight scenes.
Starting point is 00:40:49 He was young. When he fucked people up in the bar with pool sticks and pool balls, like that was realistic. We all loved it. What was the one where he was fighting the Jamaicans? Screw Face? Like he was this interesting, weird-looking guy. Damn. That was one of my favorite ones.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Look at the difference, man. He was so thin back then. But like this shit seemed, it seemed at least partially believable. Like he seems like a guy who really does understand martial arts movements. And they're much more realistic than say like a dude doing a jumping sidekick to one dude's face or kicking two dudes at the same time doing the splits. Like we were used to that. We were seeing a lot of that in like Jackie Chan movies and it was fun and everything
Starting point is 00:41:34 right? Brought a lot of father and sons together. Yeah. A lot of father and sons together. We loved this kind of shit. Chuck Norris movies are the shit. Oh yeah. I loved all those movies. All the Bruce Lee movies of course. Jackie Chan came through. Bruce Lee, obviously. But what he did was made shit where it was a little more believable that he was fucking these guys up.
Starting point is 00:41:52 As a lifelong martial artist, in my eyes, I was like, this is all real. This could go down this way. The way he fucked these guys up. And also, he looks like a mean bitch. He looks mean. When he was young and thin, Steven Seagal looked mean as fuck. He did. And I believed it.
Starting point is 00:42:09 When he was fucking guys up, it wasn't like Pierce Bronson head kicking people. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that was fake. Yeah. I'm watching this guy. I'm like, this is a guy who knows how to fuck people up. Like real John Wick shit. I'm looking in his eyes.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Like, you look in Bruce Lee's eyes. You look in Chuck Norris' eyes. Those are people that really know how to fuck people up. You can see it in their eyes. Yeah. And I can see. Those are people that really know how to fuck people up. You can see it in their eyes. And I can see it in his eyes. He knows how to fuck people up. I mean, it's... What about Jean-Claude Van Damme? He knows how to fuck people up. Jean-Claude Van Damme was a legit martial artist.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Absolute legit martial artist. So those four, basically, then. There's quite a few of them, man. Michael Jai White is absolutely legit. Michael Jai White broke the chain on the heavy bag at Legends Gym in Hollywood. He asked Eddie Bravo, or Eddie Bravo rather, asked him to demonstrate the way he does a sidekick. This dude does a sidekick, a hopping sidekick, slams it into the bag.
Starting point is 00:42:58 The bag goes against the chain, and the chain snaps. That's real? 100% real. We were laughing because me and Eddie were like, dude, if this was a movie and the guy came over like the movie star is going to demonstrate that he really knows karate and he
Starting point is 00:43:14 does a kick and it breaks the bag. He'd be like, get the fuck out of here with this movie. We were laughing our asses off. But he really did it. Michael Jai White, he has perfect technique. Perfect. There's a bunch of demonstrations of him kicking online.
Starting point is 00:43:29 But I'm telling you something, the guy has perfect technique. There's guys that maybe their knee is down too much or maybe when they throw a kick. Dude, I'm telling you. Perfect technique. Everything he does, hundred percent hip engagement you know like when you watch him hit the bag well you remember when he played Tyson dog I was about to say that's my favorite good man or spawn memory plays on right he was amazing in spawn they should bring back spawn are they
Starting point is 00:44:00 gonna bring that thing back they should bring him back his spawn but but he has a bunch of videos of him demonstrating martial arts online. He even did like a thing with Kimbo. They were working on a movie together. And he was explaining something to Kimbo about telegraphing things. And Kimbo was, you could tell Kimbo was like, oh, shit. It wasn't just like an actor was fucking around. It was like, oh, this guy's legit.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I watched him, man. I'm telling you. I know legit martial arts. What about Wesley Snipes? Michael Jai White, very legit. Word about Wesley Snipes? Michael Jai White Very legit Word Wesley Snipes very legit
Starting point is 00:44:28 Very legit stand up Very legit stand up 100% black belt level stand up Let's go Like you watch him Fuck people up in Blade That's 100% Wesley Snipes
Starting point is 00:44:37 Yeah he went hard I mean yeah No he's good But Michael Jai White Had a bunch of fights Michael Jai White Had a bunch of Yeah he had a bunch of
Starting point is 00:44:44 Kyokushin fights Michael Jai White is legit bunch of fights. Michael Jai White had a bunch of, yeah, he had a bunch of Kyokushin fights. Michael Jai White is legit. And you watch him, like, move around. Is that him with Josh Barnett? Cowboy. Him and Cowboy. I thought they were really going after him. They weren't really.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Has he been on the podcast? No, he hasn't. I definitely have him on, though. I did a thing with him, like, back in the day. In, like, 1994, I was hosting. I was a guest host of Later. Remember Bob Costas had Later? No. And I got him I was a guest host of later remember Bob Costas had later I got I got him out as a on as a guest okay I wanted to talk to him
Starting point is 00:45:10 94 oh dude it was back in the dis a might have been 95 maybe it might have been even 96 but it was in the 90s like so it was like I think he was right when he was doing the Tyson movie and I was asking about like what because you know 96 Tyson was still young and terrifying right that was a risky time to play him in a movie yeah
Starting point is 00:45:28 you know oh yeah I said this on the podcast before I met Tyson once at Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles didn't Jamie Foxx and he was looking
Starting point is 00:45:35 at my mom's Jamie Foxx is gonna play Tyson yeah and he gonna play Tyson in another movie oh is he yeah he's apparently bulking up right now alright
Starting point is 00:45:41 I mean he does do the best Tyson impersonation he does the best everybody impersonation. Yeah, yeah. Jamie Foxx can do some fucking impersonations. He's one of those dudes that just has too much talent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:51 He does so many things. A lot of things. Yeah, legend. That's what I'm saying, man. You can't just, like, confine yourself to just, you know, music. You know, and I look at guys like Jamie Foxx and see that. You know what I mean? I've been looking at him since and living color,
Starting point is 00:46:03 and he was a, you know, a versatile? I've been looking at him since and living color and he was a versatile superstar. Sketch actor. He could do anything. There's certain dudes that can do anything. There's certain guys that if they wanted to just play piano professionally. I might need security. That's a top ten for me. Comedy special. You ever see it?
Starting point is 00:46:19 Jamie Foxx? No, I haven't seen that one. I might need security. What year was that? Early 2000s maybe. Late 90s. Maybe 2000?. What year was that? Early 2000s, maybe. Late 90s. Maybe 2000? Yeah. It's got an LL Cool J story in it. Oh, dog.
Starting point is 00:46:30 He is, I mean, I Might Need Security, bro. That was a hood classic. He was a fun guy to have on the podcast because Jamie Foxx is a giant movie star, but he acts like a total normal person. Yeah. And he got classic albums, too. He can sing his ass off. True.
Starting point is 00:46:45 He can sing his ass off. And. He can sing his ass off. And an Oscar. Oh, my God. You know another comedian that make dope music? Lil Duval. Oh, yeah. That's your man, bro.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I love Lil Duval. I love Lil Duval. His new song, I just heard that shit hard as fuck, man. Yeah. I love Lil Duval. He's a legend.
Starting point is 00:47:02 He's hilarious. You know he has two planes? He has two planes? He flies around his own planes. He flies his own fucking planes. Dope shit, legend. He's hilarious. You know, he has two planes. He has two planes? He flies around his own planes. He flies his own fucking planes. Oh, shit. Yo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Duval. He's like, that's real freedom. Legend. Yeah. He flies his own fucking planes. That's crazy. That's smart. Fuck yeah, that's smart.
Starting point is 00:47:16 You know what I mean? Not paying for flights no more. Learning how to fly your own fucking planes. Yeah. Yeah, put it in your own hands. Isn't like Burr, he's like went up like helicopters? 100%. I went up with him.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Yeah, exactly. He took me up around downtown LA. I'm straight on. This is wild. I'm straight on a helicopter. Yeah. Well, apparently they know how to like. Rest in peace, Kobe.
Starting point is 00:47:36 They know how to get him down. The thing about that was that he should have never flown that Kobe Bryant crash. Apparently that guy, there was a marine layer that was really low. Bill explained the whole thing to me because Bill Burr is a legit pilot. Right. He said you'd never take a helicopter out in that weather. You don't have any instrumentation.
Starting point is 00:47:54 You can't do that. Arrogance. You can't see what's in front of you in terms of instrumentation. You don't see where the fucking mountain is. Slammed right into the fucking mountain. Right. But it's also like, you know, it's Kobe,
Starting point is 00:48:05 and he's like, I got to get there. You know what I mean? Yeah, but you got to tell a guy like Kobe. That's got to be so hard. You got to be like, hey, man, we can't go up, man. But this pilot's supposed to be one of the best, I mean, one of the best helicopter pilots in the world, they were saying, right?
Starting point is 00:48:18 You know what, man? To have a guy like Kobe in your fucking helicopter is probably so weird. You want to do whatever he wants. Whatever, yeah. You're like, you know what? I what i can make it i've done this before i've seen thick marine layer like this there's an arrogance of the pilot being like i can get this yeah yeah and you forget like oh i can kill a lot of people here yeah there's kids involved man just set your ass down man but it's all good though man rest in peace tragic bro buddy holly the most tragic
Starting point is 00:48:40 Rest in peace, Cody. It's tragic shit, bro. Buddy Holly shit. It's the most tragic. The most. When someone dies with their kid on the way to a game because you just want to support them and you think it would be fun to take a helicopter together. But he loved helicopters, right?
Starting point is 00:48:54 Didn't he travel from where he lived to where the Lakers played and everything by helicopter? He did a lot of that stuff. He just had dope, yeah. The quickest way because there's traffic in L.A. I mean, it's perfect. Dennis Miller used to do that. Really?
Starting point is 00:49:07 Yeah, he did a show. And when he did his show, he would fly in in a helicopter. And then one time the helicopter, I think, I'm not speaking out of turn here, I hope. But one time I think he had an issue. He was like, fuck helicopters. Because all it takes is one. We all forget that i was just in miami a couple of weeks ago and a helicopter crashed in the fucking uh on the beach oh my god it's on youtube i'm gonna crash
Starting point is 00:49:34 on the fucking beach when i was in hawaii i took a helicopter over the volcanoes oh no that's a terrifying feeling because like this thing drops into the volcano. You have no control. You just melt. Oh, my God. You melt with the helicopter. So it's just lava sitting in the volcano. Just lava spilling out into the ocean, creating more of Hawaii. You could watch Hawaii being built in real time. Also, when it erupts. Yeah. When it erupts, all the land.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Oh, that's crazy. Oh, yeah. It erupted just a couple of years ago on the Big Island. And remember, there was a video of a car getting destroyed by lava. Someone had parked their Mustang, and the lava at least comes slow. That's the only good thing. Yeah, that's the only good thing about it. It's slow as fuck.
Starting point is 00:50:14 It's slow as fuck. That could just happen to Tonga. Look at this shit. What is this? It's the helicopter in Miami. Oh, my God. It's going to crash right there in the water. I was out there.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I was like, uh-oh. Oh, man. Oh, look at the splash. Oh, my God. It almost hit that dude. They lived, though. Did they? Okay. That's what you're trying to get in the water. I was out there. I was like oh, yeah, man. Oh look at this. Oh my god It almost hit that dude. They live though. Did they okay? That's why yeah, that's what you're trying to get in the water Well, that's that's the help the water Then that volcano shit just happened like Tonga. It's like it like blue like part of the island off Yeah, Tonga is a scary spot man. It blew part of the zone blue part of the island off It was like a like how
Starting point is 00:50:46 many ton like mega mega ton explosion huge you could see it under from the from space in the ocean right it's a new enormous explosion did you see that i mean oh yeah we could see it in space yeah they're like huh i don't think people died in that one the ocean one i don't think they died in the ocean one because it all it happened in the middle of the ocean. Underwater, it was close enough to the explosion. Are we talking about the same one? Yeah. It's an underwater volcano, right? Yeah, underwater volcano that you
Starting point is 00:51:13 can see from space. And it blew off part of the island. Yeah. You can see it from space. Look at this. That's from space. Just a random explosion. That's underwater. So here's the crazy thing. They came from underwater. There was a thing, I think it was called the Toba volcano.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Is that what it is, Jamie, in Indonesia? It's like the same spot. It's almost the same spot. Same spot, right? Just a little bit. So that area is responsible for an eruption, a volcanic eruption that occurred somewhere around 70,000 years ago that almost wiped out the entire human race Well, it brought the entire human race down to about 7,000 people What year was this this was about 70,000 years ago? Okay, so 70,000 years ago
Starting point is 00:51:55 everyone, you know Everyone on this fucking planet came from these Few thousand people that survived they don't know exactly how many but they estimate it could be as low as 7,000 people. But mostly decimated the population of Earth. From that? From a giant volcano that spewed ash into the sky, killed all the vegetation, killed all the sunlight. Only 7,000 people? Only 7,000 people.
Starting point is 00:52:21 So how does race even exist then? Because that's your human race right there, right? Because it's all bullshit. It's all where we live. If you live in Africa, you're going to get darker skin slowly over time. If you live in Europe, you're going to need more vitamin D. You can only get it from the sun. There's no fucking sun.
Starting point is 00:52:35 So you get paler and paler and paler after generation after generation. So there's more of an ethnicity in a regional or a cultural thing. So it's not even – so whatever the social construct race is – We just look different. That's all it is. We just look different. We're the same exact 100 thing it's not like a wolf that's trying to have sex with a cat we're you know what i'm saying there's one race we just look different because we have different genetics because we came from different parts of the world that's all it is
Starting point is 00:52:59 my nigga said that shit louder tell me them, hey, where's that compilation at? So confusing to people. Look at Joe Rogan out here saying there's only, hey, human race. Human race, bro. But that is all we, this is like 100% accurate. You know, I'm a mutt. I'm a mix of a bunch of shit, but it's mostly Italians. And then I've got like some Irish people in there and some African. And I got some Asia, a little bit of Asia in there. But it's like we're all some weird cross of all these people that started out in some spot
Starting point is 00:53:27 Yeah, and how to survive massive cataclysmic disasters true. I'm 98% Nigerian whoa That's what the 23 of me diggers told me. Oh, no, I could be supposed to Think some niggas was here in America before we before American. I think some niggas was here in America before slavery. I think we was here already. That's what Hotep Jesus believes. Yeah. Yeah, Hotep Jesus was telling me that on my podcast, and I was like, well, why not?
Starting point is 00:53:54 People traveled from everywhere. Well, the first shipbuilders, they were Africans. Were they really? Yeah, you look that one up. First shipbuilders were Africans. Because Egypt's in Africa, man. Right. They used to build ships for everybody, right?
Starting point is 00:54:05 Yeah. And then- So if a nigga had a ship. Right. They used to build ships for everybody, right? Yeah. And then- So if a nigga had a ship, a nigga could go any fucking way he wanted, right? So if you look at some of the old Olmecs, they had huge noses. I mean- No, let's pull that up. Pull up an image of the Olmec. The Olmecs look absolutely African in their features.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Absolutely. And the Olmecs, they don't even know who the fuck they were. Exactly. You know, the Olmecs were like 6,000 years ago or something crazy like that. They don't even know who they were. Look at that. See what I mean? Those are black people?
Starting point is 00:54:31 Them is niggas. I know that nigga right there. I know that nigga. You know what it could be, though? Polynesian, Samoan. Right. Like Samoan folks. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:40 There's a lot of Samoan guys that look like that. Yeah. Them niggas, too. There was a lot of, like, warrior people. Absolutely. I mean. They make us too. There was a lot of like warrior people. Absolutely. I mean, if you want to look at- I was like Biggie Smalls. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Warrior genetics. Bro, look at, that's me right there. That guy looks like a warrior. Whoever that, I mean, look at those faces. Those sculpted, those are warrior faces. So whoever those folks were, whatever they represented, they don't even know what the culture was. They don't know anything about them.
Starting point is 00:55:06 You're right about the Samoan thing because there's a lot of features in that. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, dude, a lot of those guys were warriors. The guys who landed in Hawaii, think about this shit. They got on regular boats and made
Starting point is 00:55:22 it across the ocean and got lucky and found Hawaii. They didn't know where the fuck it was. Those people who landed in Hawaii, whatever, thousands of years ago, whenever they arrived, they had no idea where they were going. Right. They just ran into it. They had little boats.
Starting point is 00:55:36 They didn't have like, I mean, by the way, they knew how to navigate using the stars and stuff like that. But when I say they had no idea where they're going, like they didn't have maps. Right. Where did they come from? They were like detailed. They're coming from the east, right? So they were going, they didn't have maps. Right. Where did they come from? They were detailed topographical. They're coming from the east, right? So they're going, you know, it's not the Europeans coming from the east.
Starting point is 00:55:51 These guys are coming from the west. Where did they come from? I think South Pacific, right? Right, exactly. So when they arrived in Hawaii, there was no one there. So they found this island that was essentially, you know, had some native life on it, a lot of fish on it. And they got there with no navigation systems, no YouTube videos to watch. And they set up shop in paradise thousands of years ago.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Yeah, and then Columbus came through and just raped, pillaged, and, you know, gave them seeds. Did he go to Hawaii? I don't think he went to Hawaii. No, I'm saying, okay, you're right, you're right. He went to the Bahamas, right chance. Did he go to Hawaii? He didn't go to Hawaii. No, I'm saying, okay, you're right, you're right. He didn't go to Hawaii. He went to the Bahamas, right? When did America take over Hawaii? I don't think that was until the 1900s, if I'm correct.
Starting point is 00:56:34 But also, how old is Hawaii, right? Because that's an underwater volcano, too. You know what I mean? Because it's an island in the middle of the ocean. But we had to invade that motherfucker, right? I don't know how it went down. I don't know the history of how. We didn't just go to Hawaii and be like, hey hey man we want this right what y'all want there's a treaty
Starting point is 00:56:48 right because obviously what japan wanted to claim it somebody died somebody somebody got killed well look at pearl harbor that's what i'm saying right that was a conflict because i think japan what did they own hawaii at all i don't know when they owned hawaii at all i think they were their own nation until people started figuring out they're there. Right. That's what I'm saying. Bro, when you go to Hawaii on vacation And Hawaii don't have a fucking army
Starting point is 00:57:14 so they're like, yo, we with y'all. I fucking love Hawaii. I go there on vacation. I love it there. The people, the nicest people, and they're some of the best fighters. UFC fighters, Max Holloway. There's a ton of them that came from Hawaii. there the people the nicest people and they're some of the best fighters ufc fighters max holloway there's a ton of them that came from hawaii hawaii kicked me out i went there with a bogus covid test and them motherfuckers kicked me out the mother as soon as i got there fuck hawaii
Starting point is 00:57:34 1784 chart of the sandwich islands by captain james cook william blind so he was like probably the guy who got there in the 1700s and found the polynesian people and you know they brought goats they brought over pigs they brought all the animals that were livestock other than uh the axis deer the axis deer were actually given to king kamehameha like they're hawaiian islands have a shitload of deer yeah because they were given there by the king of uh king kamehameha so he uh brought them from India. But these guys like Captain Cook, they would drop goats off on like an island. How would they have known it was there in 1784? Well, they probably had people that probably had drifters, crazy fucks that got on a boat and figured out how to get there and could tell you what time of the year.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Like they knew basically like which way, you know, if you're following the stars, and they had sextants. You know what a sextant is? Uh-uh. A sextant is this thing. It looks like a measuring device, and they would use it to track the stars. See if you can find what a sextant looks like. I think they had those at the time. Find out when the sextant was made, too.
Starting point is 00:58:46 But the sextant was a primitive way to track the constellations, and they would travel across the ocean using them. Those guys were wrist-taking motherfuckers, bro. I mean, that's crazy. That's a sextant. So that's what it looked like. So what year was that invented? They figured it out a long time ago, and I don't know how they did it.
Starting point is 00:59:09 I don't know much about sextants. That's some crazy shit. That Captain Hook shit. Okay, look at that. 1731. The principle was implemented in 1731 by John Hadley and Thomas Godfrey. So what does it say there? It says unpublished writings of Isaac Newton from 1643 to 1727.
Starting point is 00:59:32 So somewhere in Isaac Newton's life, he came up with the concept of it. Okay. Amazing. Of course he did. I was going to say, yeah, of course he did. Or he just like, yeah, he strong-armed somebody for it, right? Isaac Newton didn't have sex. What? Yeah. I think he died a virgin. See if that for it. Isaac Newton didn't have sex. What?
Starting point is 00:59:45 Yeah. I think he died a virgin. See if that's true. I might have made that up. Damn. Call him a geek? Bro, I have spread a lot of misinformation. You have.
Starting point is 00:59:54 This whole episode is misinformation. I like to check myself. I like to check myself before I wreck myself. How old is racism, by the way? It's forever from the beginning. Is it really? Yeah, tribal. Is it forever? It's a from the beginning. Is it really? Yeah, tribal. Is it forever?
Starting point is 01:00:06 It's a tribal thing, man. Tribal. Okay, here it is. Newton was rigorously puritanical. When one of his few friends told him a loose story about a nun, he ended their friendship. He is known to have never had a romantic relationship of any kind and believed to have died a virgin. AKA, he was gay. Nigga did a bully write this virgin. AKA he was gay. Nigga, did a bully write this?
Starting point is 01:00:26 I think he was gay. Did a bully write this? That sounds like someone got one back. I don't know. I think he was just gay. They just didn't want to say it. Bro, the guy told him a fuck story and he broke up with him.
Starting point is 01:00:42 He broke up with him. See, you said it. He was gay. Is that what I meant? He was probably asexual. I don't know. It's just dudes that are asexual, man. story and he broke up with him he won't be broken up with him see you said he's probably asexual oh this dudes that are asexual men there's guys that listen hey for the people that are born you Isaac Newton for not fucking for making all this shit thank you sir thanks nigger at least he thought he was the tender age of 19 the future mathematician was committed to paper a list of 48 sins of which he was guilty transgressions ranged from
Starting point is 01:01:06 peevishness at his mother to having unclean thoughts words and actions and dreams How did what's that word? They might not know how to spell it dream missus He dream that sounds like hell Gollum would say dreams. I have dreams He also confessed to eating an apple at thy house, though he gave no word as to whether it was the apple. Okay, whatever. I think it was fucking that apple. He stuck a needle in his eye socket on purpose.
Starting point is 01:01:36 That's a lot. Oh, my God. In Newton's time, little was known about the properties of light. In fact, people weren't sure whether the eye created light or collected it. James Gleick, author of the 2003 biography of Newton, told HuffPost Science in a telephone interview, curious, Newton
Starting point is 01:01:53 embarked on his own detailed study of optics, and he wasn't above acting as his own guinea pig probing his eye with a blunt needle known as a bodkin. That was on your mom's house video. I think oh my god Yeah, I saw one of those He's a stupid motherfucker too
Starting point is 01:02:12 I think you can't be smarter than everything. This is what I think I think the more you don't have sex and Relationships at all in your life and you'll cut a friend off if he talks about fucking like you've narrowed down your your You'll cut a friend off if he talks about fucking. You've narrowed down your bandwidth of thinking, and you could push it all on whatever he was doing, like with science and gravity and all the crazy shit. There's people like that that they have a spot in society that's perfect for them.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Maybe it didn't even exist until they were born. Right. But they can figure out a thing. They got a lane. Like intermittent fasting almost right it's like you know if your body's not more energy yeah you know your body's not eating food so it can focus on other things so i need to do intermittent fucking yeah i mean basically that's what they're saying just like yeah i just knew it was a genius but he ain't no pussy well how many guys you know that have a like a relationship with their wife or girlfriend they break, and then they go on a rampage.
Starting point is 01:03:07 When they go on a rampage, they don't get nothing else done. Right. Right? They don't answer text messages. They're like, bro, I thought we were going to go to dinner. Oh, fucking. Because they stop getting pussy. You got to keep getting pussy no matter what.
Starting point is 01:03:18 No matter what. He's the Isaac Newton of getting pussy. That should be in a quote. You got to keep getting pussy no matter what. You got to keep getting pussy no matter what. You got to keep getting pussy no matter what. Freddie Gitts. I think Nike already did that. Just do it.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Nike's so good shit. Just fuck. You got to keep getting pussy no matter what, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Isaac Newton. Well, I don't think Isaac wanted it, man. No, he was too busy. Don't you think if certain people are born blind,
Starting point is 01:03:41 don't you think certain people are born with no sexual appetite at all? I don't know. Sure. Imagine if you weren't horny at all. Right. Ever. There has to be people like that, obviously, right? 100%.
Starting point is 01:03:51 If they're pedophiles, if they're people who have blood lust, that kind of a thing, there's a lot of people who don't want to fuck. Imagine if you weren't horny at all and your friend just wants to talk to you about butt fucking. You're like, what are you talking about, man? Can we talk about quantum physics? I'm trying to figure out gravity. You're sticking your dick
Starting point is 01:04:09 in a place where someone shits. Yeah, make them bitches fuck so we can fuck. Listen, 100%, there has to be people that have no desire whatsoever for intimate contact with another person.
Starting point is 01:04:19 That's crazy. Yeah, but it's like, it's not any crazier than people that are born with all kinds of different things that are different about them. So what do they do? They got to bust a nut. You have to bust a nut.
Starting point is 01:04:30 It's in your human. I don't think you have to. I think there's certain people where their body doesn't produce any testosterone. Or very little of it. My football coach told me to go get some pussy. He said, if you hold in that nut, you're going to get acne. And I didn't want to have no pimples. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Your coach said that? Yeah. What? Biggie Smalls teacher said, you're never going to make it, but Freddie Gibbs high school coach said, if you ain't you got to bust them nuts. Moses, do you have a teacher like that that fucked with you? That said something to you that
Starting point is 01:04:57 sticks in your craw? No. I had one teacher said I wasn't going to graduate, and then I did. I remember when I graduated, I told her. I was like, see, I knew I was going to make it, Ms. McJunkin. He told me. My coach told me, go get some pussy. He said, don't beat your shit. He said, don't beat your meat.
Starting point is 01:05:10 He said, when you beat your shit, you beat your brains. So I was like, I guess I'm making myself stupid by jacking off. I need to get smashed. They gave terrible advice back then. They did. I mean, my God. Bro, my wrestling coach, rather, was trying to get me to play football. I wrestled at 134 pounds. He was trying to get me to play football. I wrestled at 134 pounds.
Starting point is 01:05:25 He was trying to get me to play football. I was like, what the fuck are you talking about, man? Right, 134? He's like, Rogan, you'd be fast. You'd be great on the field. I go, fuck you. Our heavyweight was this kid, Bob Baker. He weighed 300 pounds.
Starting point is 01:05:38 I was like, I'm friends with Bob. He's so much bigger. He could fit me inside of him and no one would even notice. Fuck out of here. I'm not playing football. Yeah, that's dangerous. It's a much bigger. He could fit me inside of him and no one would even notice. Fuck out of here. I'm not playing football. Yeah, that's dangerous. It's a terrifying game. It's fun, though.
Starting point is 01:05:51 It's fun if you're on the right side of it, right? Yeah, it's fun. Dudes get hit in baseball, and it's rare. Someone slides into a catcher or something like that. They collide into someone. I stopped playing baseball because I didn't want to get hit with a ball no more. Right, though. That's a weapon coming at you.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I'm good on this shit. What I'm saying is that dudes get hit in football every fucking day. Car crashes, yeah. And they're bigger, they're fat. I mean, they're literal cars coming at you and crashing. It's a collision sport, right? Here's my question. How come hockey players get to fight?
Starting point is 01:06:25 Yeah. How come everybody hockey players get to fight? Yeah. How come everybody doesn't get to fight? What is this? 200 pounds coming at you in skates. I mean, none of them have teeth. You know what I mean? But why? What's going on?
Starting point is 01:06:34 What's the rules there? Hockey wasn't made in America. It wasn't? It's Canadian. It's Canadian. Is everything else made in America? Actually, I don't even know if it's Canadian. It's Russian, I think.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Is it? Hockey? Let's guess. Let's guess. in America? Actually, I don't even know if it's Canadian. It's Russian, I think. Is it? Hockey? Let's guess. Let's guess. I would say Russian. I think Russian. Because it's in Russia. It's in Russia.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And they're very good at it. And it's a big deal in Russia. I'm serious. Okay, let's go with Russian. What do we got? Where was hockey created? Because fighting. But why do they get to fight?
Starting point is 01:07:01 Because fighting in American sports is unsportsmanlike. You know, there's no black people in hockey, and if you show black people fighting, nobody's going to watch. Everybody's like, this is okay. I can see my son fighting this other guy. If you show black people fighting, they're not going to watch? What are you talking about? Black people love boxing.
Starting point is 01:07:13 I know. I'm saying, but I feel like with sports like that, when it's a team sport, you can't really, I mean, it's like, oh, these thugs are fighting, and we're not going to get the ratings. If it's white dudes, it's like, it's cool. Unless it's UFC or boxing. Yeah, I agree with that. If it's white dudes, it's like, it's cool. Unless it's UFC or boxing. Yeah, I agree with that. If it was black dudes in hockey fighting, they wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:07:28 They'd be like, these thugs are on the ice. But niggas don't want to be cold. Right. Right. We ain't skating shit. Right. Okay, here it is. Two answers.
Starting point is 01:07:38 England. It emerged in England in the mid-18th century. It was largely attributed to the growth of public schools. We are all about misinformation here. Hold on. Hockey was a part of the growth of public schools? I don't know that. Can you scroll back up so I can read that again?
Starting point is 01:07:56 The origins of hockey have been long debated. In 2008, the International Ice Hockey Federation officially declared the first game of organized ice hockey was played in Montreal in 1875. But it says in this other paragraph here, the modern game of hockey emerged in England in the mid-18th century, which is the 1700s, and is largely attributed to the growth of public schools, such as Eton. Which is what? The first hockey association was formed in the UK in 1876 and drew up the first formal set of rules.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Could you imagine if schools emerged because of hockey? Is that real? Yo, that's great. Is that real? Like, what, public schools emerged because of hockey? Get them in class so, yeah, they'll go play hockey. That is crazy. It's like an incentive?
Starting point is 01:08:41 Could you imagine if hockey was how they figured out schools? I think, I mean, maybe it was a bunch of rich guys that, I got my hockey team. Nah, Nick, I got my hockey team. All right, I got my school. They started a school. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to start my school. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:08:52 That's how they did it. But, okay, so. I have no structure, though. I can see that. So how come you can't fight in rugby, then? Rugby should be fighting. You should fight in rugby. You can fight in hockey.
Starting point is 01:09:00 You can't fight in rugby. That's ridiculous. I mean, you can crush a guy in a fight. I was going to say, like, rugby already is a fight, you know? And they don't have any helmets on. They all got shit on. You know, they say that that's safer, believe it or not, than American football. The problem with the head, like the helmets and the shoulder coverings, the head coverings,
Starting point is 01:09:17 is that they make you feel like you're protected, but you're not really. No, but yeah, I think it's the helmet, bro. That helmet coming right at you. That helmet would be smacking the fuck out of you. But the thing is, we're so scared of the transition period between helmets and no helmets I Mean make them across helmets, you know that you can't give anybody any padding on their head and allow them to smash people in the heads
Starting point is 01:09:36 That's what I'm saying Yeah, if you're a bigger guy and that guy's got a smaller head that's a terrifying place to be if you're a bigger guy and that guy's got a smaller head, that's a terrifying place to be if you're that smaller guy. I mean, we got to talk to hit people in the face. Why fighting is allowed in the NHL? Here we go. There's no real answer here that I got to, but as I'm reading the third time, they do fight in baseball. They do?
Starting point is 01:09:58 But don't they break it up immediately? No, they break that up. They break it up in hockey too. No, but they let them toss it. They break it up in hockey, but those guys get like two minutes, like a timeout. It depends. It's gone down over time.
Starting point is 01:10:10 I was looking at some baseball things. Reggie Jackson hit a home run and then went and fought the guy. That was the 70s though. You know what I mean? My grandfather was a Yankees fan, so I used to have to watch those games. I was a little kid. I used to watch those games with my grandpa. He loved it, man.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Bro, those guys were so many drugs. The 70s and the 80s were cool for baseball. I'm sorry, baseball. Well, I don't think they had the right science, though. They didn't have the right science. Like, what really was interesting is the Mark McGuire years, when they got dudes like Juicy Juicy. Yeah, the science.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Yeah, smacking the shit out of the ball. It's fucked up how they kept him and Barry Bonds out the hall of fame it's fucked up it is fucked up because there's an era there was a lot of people that were taking it and they just they were better than everybody else it's like the lance armstrong argument like you want to say that lance armstrong doesn't deserve to win the tour de france well everybody was on drugs the whole tour de france was on drugs everybody's doping, yeah. They're all doping. Yeah, but that's also like, they say the same thing about the 70s era
Starting point is 01:11:08 when they're all on methamphetamines. Exactly. You know? Exactly. So, like, why are these guys bad? Because they broke those great records. As Babe Ruth is their pinnacle, you can't beat those records.
Starting point is 01:11:17 They almost killed Hank Aaron for that, you know? Yeah. I mean, I wasn't alive during the Hank Aaron era, but I believe they probably said he was juicing, weren't they? Like, oh, he's a cheat probably. I never heard that. He's on something.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Did they say that? I never heard that. All right. Sorry, Hank Aaron. I don't think they knew what juice was back then. I'm trying. I'm misinformation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:36 I'm out here. That should be a girl that does porn. Misinformation. I think she's a radio DJ, actually. Misinformation. Oh, there is? Is there a radio DJ? Yeah. She's a radio DJ actually Oh there is? Is there a radio DJ Yeah
Starting point is 01:11:45 I think that they didn't Discover that shit Until Eastern Bloc Nation Started They started experimenting On it with Olympic athletes And you started seeing Women Olympic athletes
Starting point is 01:11:56 That were posting up numbers That I think even Google this Because I think there's some Like power lifting numbers From Eastern Bloc Nation From the early days Before drug testing That they still haven't beaten Google this because I think there's some like power lifting numbers from Eastern Bloc nations from the early days for drug testing that they still haven't beaten yeah like dude they they engineered people back then there was an
Starting point is 01:12:13 article I read about this lady who was in that program and she was like a weightlifter and they like she basically was forced to take hormones and it ruined her really having children she could never have children and she was just talking about like what awkward shit it did to her body Because back then man they would just they just saw his experiments, right? They didn't give a fuck man. You're gonna win for the Soviet Union like you take that drug right though Yeah, you know, but you don't have a choice, right? It's like it's like, you know there's a lot of communist countries that just decide what you're going to do.
Starting point is 01:12:47 And if you're a woman and you show promise at weightlifting and they want you to represent Russia. Gymnastics, right? Back in the 1950s or 60s, whatever it was. Ice skating, right? Cycling. All of it now, right? This is what we're realizing with this war, man. It's like this is a people thing.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Like people like to control people. It doesn't matter if they're Russian or Chinese or wherever the fuck they're from American Canadian What's going on in Canada? Well that they froze the assets all those people that contributed to the truckers that were trying to like protest What are you doing? They did that for they froze the assets there. They froze people's assets They I don't know if they've released them. I think they eventually ultimately released them. Yeah, where are people's rights to protest? Well, man, it's like...
Starting point is 01:13:29 Canada's a democracy, right? It's a thing that people want to... Look, running things and ruling over people has got to be very fucking complicated. It's very difficult to do. Right. It's so hard to do, and so hard to do when you have, like,
Starting point is 01:13:42 all these different pressures from all these different Businesses that have contributed to your campaigns and people that want you to do one thing or the other thing God damn, it's got to be hard to do One of the easiest impulses one of the most normal human impulses is just to help people shut the fuck up I'm gonna do this now. We're gonna impose this we're gonna impose a new law. We're gonna keep this law It's a natural thing that people want to do when they get in charge, and you're not supposed to be able to do that.
Starting point is 01:14:08 And the people that voted with him, that's a mistake. You're not supposed to give people new powers. The amount of power they have is enough. Those powers are supposed to be reserved for terrorist attacks and shit, wild stuff. That's your own people. People trying to overthrow the government, not people that are protesting. You've got to be able to tolerate a certain amount of protesting. You have to be.
Starting point is 01:14:28 There has to be discourse because otherwise you're going to make new laws to make your life more convenient and easy. But the fucking real reason is no one should be a president. No one. No one should be a prime minister. No one person should get that much juice. Facts. And I don't think they have in america i
Starting point is 01:14:46 think this is a good example because i think that with biden it's probably a lot of people helping him out right it's probably a gigantic group effort but russia nobody's saying shit to putin no right no you know that's a different kind of thing checking my man when a person gets to that spot that crazy Super position where they can just call out whatever they want done get you force things The only other motherfucker I remember running Russia was Mikhail Gorbachev After that it was just been Putin the rest of my life How about Khrushchev in the 1960s Khrushchev pulled his shoe out and banged it on the desk and said, I will bury you.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Right. Bro. Do you remember? You ever see that? You need to see that because this was like post-nuclear weapons first being deployed. Really? This was in the Cold War. Could have been a hot war.
Starting point is 01:15:37 In the 70s? No. No. This was like, when he did that with Khrushchev, I don't know what year it was. I'm thinking i'm thinking this was during like the kennedy years 1960 yeah 1960 he took his fucking shoe off and banged it on the desk and said i will bury you do you understand how terrifying that would have been to us to us yeah russians go hard and these motherfuckers had nuclear weapons and a long
Starting point is 01:16:03 history of brutal warfare that was just recently behind them They had warfare on their front lines. You know during Stalin's era they Fucking who knows how many people starved to death in Russia, right? Russia was horrifically horrifically treated by its rulers and by history and fate and that goes back to the mongols invading them in the 1200s man so it's just in their blood dude they've had a long history of conflict these are these are fierce people and you see it in the ufc right now there's these russians that are coming over and fucking dominating in the ufc there's so many of them
Starting point is 01:16:42 it's like a high population of r. I've been to Russia too. That shit is... It's a hard place. It's cold as fuck. Is it third world? People are strong. No! It ain't third world. No, not at all. It's just a different... They're just hard people, man. I don't like the vibe. I'm good. I said Putin, my man
Starting point is 01:17:00 on here. I gotta clarify that. I went twice. It's a vernacular. It's a vernacular. Do you know that Louis C.K. was doing a show? He was supposed to be doing a show in Ukraine when the shit hit the fan? Oh, I read about that, yeah. Dude, I texted him. He's talking about it. Yeah, I don't want to read his text. It's pretty hilarious.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Yeah. That sounds terrifying. He was pretending that he was there and then he wasn't. He was pretending he was there? To me, in a text message. Just to be funny. I was going to say. He's like, I'm fucked.
Starting point is 01:17:29 He said, no, I got out. This is crazy. And he's explaining. And he's doing some European tour right now. But imagine, Sean Penn is over there right now. Dog, over there. He is over there. I mean, they're over there just documenting it, hoping they don't get killed.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Yeah. This is a real hot war it's a it's a war in our lifetimes i've never right that's what i'm saying this is the first time i've ever seen this kind of conflict with white people i'm like this is hard you know what it's like this is like slaps but like if you're gonna get a street fight this is like by using conventional weapons it's like slaps before they start throwing haymakers we got to be really terrified of haymakers because if haymakers come and i know this is a bad analogy because people are dying i don't mean it that way what i mean is like it'll escalate to the point where everybody's dead that's what's terrifying to me
Starting point is 01:18:18 what's terrifying to me is that he's what has he done with his nukes what has putin done with nukes there was like something that he did well belarus just done with his nukes? What has Putin done with his nukes? There was, like, something that he did? Well, Belarus just opened up their nukes for him, right? Even though we just clicked on this video, I just read a bunch of reports that said this didn't happen. Okay. But we just watched it. There might not have been a shoe in his hand.
Starting point is 01:18:37 What's in his hand? It's, like, a gavel, probably. Oh. Okay. For sure? Yeah, that's a shoe, bro. Look at the end. I just read 15 reports that said this.
Starting point is 01:18:48 They don't even have a picture of him doing it. I think that is propaganda by the government trying to discredit my podcast. Go back to that. Misinformation. Misinformation, baby. Watch it pop up. I swear to God I saw a heel. Let's let it pop up.
Starting point is 01:19:01 It's like right when he bangs it. Right there. That looks like a shoe, bro. No. That's a shoe when he bangs it. Right there. That looks like a shoe, bro. That's a shoe. So is it gavel? Is it a gavel? Shoes are a thing in politics, right? He's going to back it up. Here we go. We got it here. Bro.
Starting point is 01:19:17 You sure that's not a shoe? The frame by frame. You sure that's not a shoe? I will crush you. If it was a shoe This is the only account Of it anywhere online That I could just find It's a conspiracy
Starting point is 01:19:28 I'm saying Okay so that's a conspiracy The part that it was a shoe That it was even a shoe That this even happened So he's been Is it really more interesting That he bangs his shoe
Starting point is 01:19:36 Yes it is right It is It's kind of gangster It is gangster Someone take their shoe off And bang it on the desk Russians are gangster Russians are fucking gangster.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Well, he was definitely gangster, whatever he was doing. Well, thank you, Jamie. But the Ukrainians, too. I mean, hard dog. Hard people. Hard. Listen, man, you got Lomachenko over there, one of the greatest lighterweight fighters of all time. You got the Brothers Klitschko, who are two of the greatest heavyweights of all time.
Starting point is 01:20:01 One of them is a mayor over there. And you got Usyk, who's the, yeah, yeah, Vladimir. Yeah, he's a mayor. No, Vitaly, rather. Vitaly's the mayor of Kiev. Kiev? How do you say it? Kiev.
Starting point is 01:20:11 He's the mayor of Kiev. And then you got Usyk, who is one of the baddest motherfuckers to ever lace on gloves. Yeah. What he did to Anthony Joshua, I was like, I can't even believe I'm seeing this. Right, though. I can't even believe I'm seeing this. He did, like, lighter man boxing in the heavyweight division and put on a fucking show Look at him out there
Starting point is 01:20:29 Niggas are hard. He's an interesting guy to who sick. He's like really Creative like if you watch him on his His Instagram page. He's always like dancing and shit like moving around like he's a very eclectic sort of eccentric guy He's got a lot of different things going on with him and his uh boxing styles fucking almost unprecedented for the heavyweight division he moves like a lightweight guy like he's constantly moving he's in perpetual motion fainting and jabbing and cutting angles and his footwork is superb. I mean, Anthony Joshua is such a power puncher, man. And to stand in front of him like that and just keep pressing forward
Starting point is 01:21:10 and get clipped, too. Yeah, with the Russians. They're hard people, bro. And he's over there right now with a rifle. Right. Rifle and a helmet. They got stingers. They got javelins.
Starting point is 01:21:22 The thing is, like, where does this go? Like, how do they end this? How do they end this without people? I just know how you devalue life like that. That's all I'm saying. It's terrifying because it leads, like, if you can justify killing 10,000 people, you can justify killing 100,000 people. You can justify 100. You can justify a million.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Well, now you're talking about genocide. Yeah, the genocide of the Ukrainian people. You can justify a million. Well, now you're talking about genocide. Yeah, the genocide of the Ukrainian people. Yeah, if you feel like there was a time during the 1960s where these generals were talking about nuking China or nuking Russia, that you could eliminate it very quickly and that you could do it fast and we would only lose a few million people in the United States, and they were willing to give it a go.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Whoa. Whoa, shit. Yeah. Yeah, there were real generals like real generals lives Oliver Stone Oliver Stone was explaining this to me he's like the the guy was the inspiration for the Doctor Strangelove movie you know the Doctor Strangelove you ever see that I've only heard about Doctor Strangelove is a crazy movie from early days like it's like 65 or something like that and it's all about these generals sitting around wanting to go to war.
Starting point is 01:22:28 And they were talking. One of the guys was talking. It sounded like a parody. He was talking like, we'll probably lose Chicago and maybe a couple other places. But for the most part, we'll have limited amount. Yeah, basically a documentary. Dr. Strange Love is basically a documentary. Stanley Kubrick's 1964 film Dr. Strangelove is a black comedy that ends with the world being completely destroyed in a nuclear war.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Many aspects of the film might seem absurd, but according to Daniel Ellsberg, who worked as a nuclear war planner in the 1960s, it's actually pretty close to reality. He says that was a documentary, Ellsberg says in episode 297 of Geek's Guide to the Galaxy podcast. Everything that film entered existed as an operational reality at the time. He says that while specific Doomsday Machine featuring Dr. Strangelove is fictional, the Russians and the Americans' nuclear arsenals functioned as de facto doomsday machines since a first strike by either power against the other would be more than enough to plunge the world into nuclear war. And so they really were trying to do this.
Starting point is 01:23:33 So there really were some wild-ass generals from the 1960s that were thinking we might have to nuke them before they nuke us. I mean, they did. Just cover people's lives. I mean, they did Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They did it. I mean, so they did. Yeah, they did it before us.
Starting point is 01:23:48 They did it. Exactly. They wiped out the old city. It's amazing we haven't done it since. I thank God. Yeah, thank God. Absolutely. But it's amazing, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:23:55 But now more countries have this capability. Everybody's got it. Yeah, everybody's got it now. Bro, they talk about suitcase nukes. See? You go, what the fuck did you just say? Suitcase nukes. See? You go, what the fuck did you just say? Suitcase nukes. It's like someone could have a suitcase that's a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 01:24:11 What? Don't say that. A suitcase? That's real? And what would that suitcase do? Detonate a city. What? How much power is in a suitcase nuke?
Starting point is 01:24:20 What the fuck? Yeah, how many megatons? What is that? Yeah. I mean how how much is that and are those real power dude it's terrifying what what human beings are capable of doing to each other is terrifying because also capable of being cool as fuck right dude what we're just talking about earlier i think it's make a nuclear this is what i'm saying like
Starting point is 01:24:41 why can't we use this power to like figure out how to find other? Intelligent life out there the problem with nuclear power is that someone was gonna make it right and that's exactly Well Oppenheimer in the Manhattan Project did it to try to end the war Because they felt like the war was gonna go the wrong way and Hitler was gonna take over the world now If Hitler took over the world we'd obviously be fucked Right that mean what happened during World War two everybody would be I'm you know what it would happen over there in World War two in 1947 changed the course of history But you know it didn't have to if the Germans figured it out quicker, bro. They figured out a lot of shit Yeah, they figured out all kinds of race car technology.
Starting point is 01:25:26 How many fucking elite world car manufacturers came out of Germany? Exactly. Mercedes, Volkswagen, Porsche, Audi. What the fuck, dude? BMW. It all came out of this fucking same part of the world. Yeah, tragedy. Dude, they invented all kinds of shit.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Jet engines. They had advanced technology. The science that came out of that, too, because of the experiments they were doing. Yes. You know what Operation Paperclip is? No. All the people that ran the NASA program that put people on the moon in the 1960s was Nazis. program that put people on the moon in the 1960s was Nazis. Operation Paperclip was a real operation the US federal government engaged in where they
Starting point is 01:26:10 took Nazis from Nazi Germany, Nazi scientists, and they brought them over. Werner Herzog, who's the head of, or excuse me, Werner Von Braun, Werner Herzog's documentary guy, Werner Von Braun, who is the head of NASA, was a Nazi. So much so that the Simon Wiesenthal Center at one point in time said if he was alive today they would prosecute him for crimes against humanity wild so NASA is a motherfucking Nazi so the end of NASA is a Nazi it's always about the advancement I read this story about how they would hang the five slowest Jews at the doorway to the rocket factory in Berlin. What? Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Yes, that was real. Where is this at? This is during the Holocaust. During the Holocaust, during World War II, Wernher von Braun ran a rocket factory, and they had Jews work as slaves. Wow. They brought all these people over here. They brought all these people over here
Starting point is 01:27:04 with their advanced rocket ship technology, and brought all these people over here They brought over all these people over here with their advanced rocket ship technology And they they all helped put us in ahead of the space race You never heard about this no, I didn't know they used to fight here, but they used to fight duels So they all had big cuts all over their face like that was like bites almost that was a badge of honor to have like a They all had giant dual scars on their face Jesus imagine not just being a Nazi but being a Nazi was whole face badge of honor to have like a, they all had giant dual scars on their face. Jesus. Imagine not just being a Nazi, but being a Nazi whose whole face was sewed back together like a monster.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Like they wanted to look like monsters. Yeah. Pull up a Nazi dual scars. Look at this shit. Look at these guys. Okay. Oh, that's why they had these. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:42 You see all this. Yeah. Look at that guy. Look at Nazi pictures. They all had this. So they would put goggles on guy. You see all this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at that guy. You look up Nazi pictures. They all had this. So they would put goggles on and then they would put, you know, like an outfit on. You don't want to fight these guys. I mean, like, yeah, you look at these guys.
Starting point is 01:27:52 These are monsters you're fighting. This shit gives you nightmares. They would fight with swords and cut each other's faces. And it was a rite of passage. Yeah. And so you look at, like, the guys running NASA. Now, look at Dueling running NASA now look at dueling scars NASA operation
Starting point is 01:28:07 paperclip and you'll see like guys who were working for NASA in the 1960s have Nazi dueling scars on their face look at that guy in the upper left hand corner who's that woman though like look at his face she wrote a book about it
Starting point is 01:28:23 she actually was on our podcast before. Annie Jacobson. Nazi bitch. I was like, where's her? No, there's her and me together talking. I swear to God. She doesn't have a dueling scar. But look at that dude.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Look at that smile he's got connected to his cheek. Look at that guy down there, Jamie. Look at that guy. Oh, my God. I thought that was Walt Disney. The black and white guy next to his hand. Above, next to his hand. The one that says, a little bit, go to the right a little bit.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Look at where you're pointing. Yeah, that guy. Look at that guy's face. Dog. But there were so many of those guys. They had these dueling scars all over their face. See, what this is supposed to teach people. Who was they dueling against?
Starting point is 01:28:59 Each other. Each other, right? Each other in schools. They didn't like military schools and shit. Yeah. Hard. Hard. Nazis are hard like military schools and shit. Yeah. Hard. Hard. Nazis are hard.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Cold as fuck in the winter. Did anybody die? Different kinds of people. You gotta die. You cut me like that. I bet. I guarantee you some people died. I guarantee you some people got their necks cut and died.
Starting point is 01:29:15 They had to. That's what makes these motherfuckers scary. They were fighting the face with swords. Scary. But it was like a rite of passage to have your face fucked up and get all stitched back together again. Yeah, nobody's going to be as hard as the Nazis. I guarantee you a lot of people died from the infections.
Starting point is 01:29:30 What does it say? He was a – what? There was social significance of them too. It was like you were elite. Oh, you were also good husband material. Jesus Christ. That's the propaganda. That's the brainwashing.
Starting point is 01:29:42 This is like this goes back to warrior cultures, whether it's the Vikings or any Native Americans, any warrior cultures. They all valued scars. Fuck that. Look at that. And the number in the extremity of scars was reduced in more recent times. And the custom of obtaining dueling scars started to die off after the Second World War. Well, after we kicked your ass, bitch.
Starting point is 01:30:07 They said some students who didn't even fence would scar themselves with razors in imitation. What the fuck? Well, you know, jujitsu guys do that. Oh, yeah. They fuck their ears up on purpose. Oh, that's why they'd be having a cauliflower ear. Well, no. There's two.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Like, some of them get a cauliflower ear just from regular grappling, but some of them, like, they'll grab their ear and fuck it up. They'll bend it and crush their ear just to get a little blood in there. Ugh, fuck that. It fucks with your hearing, too. Here's suitcase bombs, by the way. It's as big that it could be in a suitcase or backpack, according to what I was looking up.
Starting point is 01:30:41 And it's power was 10. I don't really understand the bomb power stuff, but it's not quite as big as the ones we dropped on. Oh. But it's still a nuke. So it would be like how much of a percentage of like a Hiroshima bomb? I don't know. I don't even want to give an answer because I didn't see anything comparing it to that specifically. I also was trying to find if they were even a thing for a minute.
Starting point is 01:31:09 There was a 60 Minutes interview where a Soviet general said they created about 250 of them and 100 were missing at some point. The Soviet Union is crazy. What was that Operation Ordessa? Have you seen that? Who produced that again? Is that Billy? That's not Billy Corbin, right?
Starting point is 01:31:29 No, that's someone else, right? Who produced Operation Odessa? What's that? I'm trying to remember. Operation Odessa is about these drug dealers that buy a submarine. Tiller Russell, that's right. Sorry, Tiller. That's right.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Sorry, Tiller. They buy a submarine to fucking deliver their drugs in from the Russians, and the Russians ask them if they want nuclear bombs. What the fuck? The Russians ask them if they want to buy nuclear missiles. Oh, my God. Bro, it's a great documentary. It's a great documentary. It's a great documentary.
Starting point is 01:32:06 It's really interesting. So they were smuggling coke from Russia? Yes. What the fuck? Yes. Dude, it's a wild documentary. Where the fuck do you get cocaine in Russia? I bet it's probably pretty easy if you're friends with the right people.
Starting point is 01:32:18 Oh, my God. It's a really good documentary. But it's all about that. That's crazy. Yeah. Anytime I go places over there like that, they got bad cocaine. Like Australia, they cocaine. That shit is good.
Starting point is 01:32:36 It's basically like ketamine, like a special K. Oh, well, it probably is. Freddie's talking about cocaine again. I don't know what cocaine is. I don't know what it does because I've never tried it because I know I'd love it I don't need anything that gives me any confidence that's why I don't do crack they say it's like a body orgasm yeah I'm not interested in that
Starting point is 01:32:55 yeah all the crackheads I know they used to have to get their dick sucked or fucked while they was doing their crack or right after immediately they make them horny as fuck yeah you don't want that drug you get hooked on that drug and that's over i had a good buddy of mine that was deep into it yeah he was always trying to take me to buy it i was like man if i get my car repossessed i'm gonna be so fucking mad at you so i'd have to drive him into harlem and he would go and score and i was always trying to clean him up because like we were like from completely different ends of the like what you do with your body spectrum like
Starting point is 01:33:29 I had come from martial arts and you know I was a stand-up comedian and he was a pool hustler and like he was always like homeless and sleeping on he was bound to do crack now he was doing a lot of crack crack it why did you teach him like hey man you know would be If you just made this shit yourself. You realize when you talk to people that have a real problem, it doesn't matter what you say. Right. You can't really say anything. You think, man, you can't tell them, motherfucker, to make their own crack.
Starting point is 01:33:57 That was a joke. You don't think every crackhead had that bright idea. Yo, Rico. I'm just going to go get me some cocaine to make my own shit. The problem is I'm getting undercut. You know what I mean? Yeah, like go to Home Depot. This crack could be so much more inexpensive.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Yeah, exactly. Just a smarter idea. They can't afford the powder. They just get a rock, man. It's like fast food. I don't want to make the food. Like a single nigga buying groceries. He ain't going to do that. He's going to go to Uber Eats.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Let's imagine. Let's imagine a place. Imagine a place where crack is legal. Russia oregon no right here america imagine if that was yeah it is an organ but you can't sell it it's decriminalized okay what i'm saying is legal i'm saying legal everywhere like let's let's cut the bullshit yeah you know if i can buy booze if i can walk into a cvs and buy enough whiskey to kill myself okay you 100 can right you walk into a CVS and buy enough whiskey to kill myself, you 100% can, right? You walk into a drugstore, they sell whiskey, don't they? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:34:51 If you buy a couple of bottles of whiskey and you just drink them in an hour, you're a dead man. You're a dead man. You're a dead man. You're a dead man. Alcohol poisoning. You're a dead man. So why is that okay? What is it?
Starting point is 01:35:03 Because we are used to it like i'm not saying you should do crack but why why is it okay to just drink yourself to death because maybe it they haven't tested enough because alcohol i feel like has been around so long have you done crack never done imagine if like a really smart person does crack and they're like wait a minute this is actually beneficial i mean we gotta find that guy here's the problem it's like you know we get bad propaganda because everybody does crack is already a loser but but presidents drink alcohol maybe the president smokes crack there's only a few mayors i even thought i was by night smoke crack i'm like how much time do i have left i want to try crack
Starting point is 01:35:38 crack just get bad physical effects on the body like the face the teeth shit like that it's just it's not a glamorous i don't think that's what it is i think that's neglect freebasing a little bit but also neglect dr carl hart do you know who he is i've read yeah read about this guy yeah he's a professor at columbia brilliant guy right yes right he's uh he's been on my podcast a couple of times he's a very interesting guy because he talks openly about his personal drug use. He's careful about it where he doesn't give up sources or whatever. Yeah, he's a functional heroin addict, right? But he's basically saying, and this is his position.
Starting point is 01:36:14 He was a research scientist. He still is. But he was in his 30s and researching these chemicals, whether it was cocaine or you know heroin or whatever it was and he realized like this is we're getting a bunch of bullshit misconceptions about what these what the effects of these things are with the withdrawal he goes withdrawal for heroin it's like having the flu I go really goes yeah it's like the flu like you get over it does everybody want to see that is these motherfuckers shit on itself right right but people shit on themselves
Starting point is 01:36:46 if they have the flu if you have the flu and you think you're gonna die i don't know man if you have the flu and you you ever have the flu you think you're gonna die when you had covet you told me you were sick as you know sick as but how bad were you i wasn't dope sick have you been dope sick never but do you know that that's a hundred percent for everybody the same Do you know I'm saying like some bad dope six, but what is it? But heroin just heroin heroin is what he was contra People listen people die of the flu they fucking die it doesn't get worse than dying So I don't I don't see how you there's any way you could dispute what he's saying.
Starting point is 01:37:28 I think there's somewhere in the neighborhood of like 10 to 20,000 people have died in a year from the flu. What's like the most people that have ever died in a year from the flu? I mean, well, we talk about the Spanish flu. Just like a regular flu, seasonal flu. Since when? Just Google a normal year, like how many people died from the flu in 2017 right so we're far enough removed from covid because h1n1 was the flu that was not that was 2000 that was killing people that was killing and we wasn't tripping on that we wasn't wearing
Starting point is 01:37:58 masks no h1n1 well it went away pretty quick bird had it yeah. Yeah. Chrysler had it. He said he almost died. Dog, it's, yeah. I mean, when I first had COVID, you were like, oh, I thought I was going to die. 61,000 every year? About 61,000 people died in 2017, 2018 flu season. Imagine if 61,000 people every year died from heroin overdoses. You'd say that's crazy, right? I think that's crazy. No, it's more. It's more. It's? I think that's crazy. No, it's more.
Starting point is 01:38:25 It's more. It's got to be more, yeah. No, it's over 100,000. Yeah, because they're not. That's what I'm saying. It's the number one cause of death of people 18 to, I think, 18 to 49. Overdosing, right? Overdosing.
Starting point is 01:38:36 They put all opiates together, so it's 75,000. Oh, okay. I thought it was 100. Number one cause of death. I just typed in opioid overdoses per year. Top thing, CDC. Drug overdoses per death. The new data documents that estimated overdose deaths from opioids increased to 75,673 in the last 12-month period, ending April 2021.
Starting point is 01:38:56 That still beats the flu. Yeah, it does. That still beats the flu. It beats the flu. He's ahead of the flu by about 10,000. Two years before, it was 49,000. So that might have been a pandemic uptick. MVP, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:07 No, 2017 wouldn't be pandemic at all. No, no, no. The one I just read that was the higher number was 2021. Oh. And then 2019. 2021? How many people died from the flu? No, 75,000 people died from the opioids in 2021.
Starting point is 01:39:23 I never looked up the flu numbers for that year oh okay so well this is a yeah i oh now i understand what you're saying so the the pandemic rise would be higher because a lot of suicides and drug overdose just on the screen there's these two things from it says 2019 was 49 000 2021 was 75 000 the pandemic happened in that time period that could that could be a hundred percent yeah they They've talked openly about how the fact that drug overdoses and suicides have gone way up. That's all. I was just trying to clarify that. I got it.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Now, I was just confused at first. But I think that- So people can't handle the overdose. So evidently he can because he handled that flu-like symptom you're saying. No, here's my question like if you made it legal how many people would die like let's guess i mean people die right legal heroin we could buy it at 7-eleven i mean it might be more die of oxycontin every day too so they do that's legal they do right i mean but it's it's interesting if someone writes
Starting point is 01:40:23 something down if the guy went to school write down on a piece of paper and gives it to you, and you go to get your drugs, good job. You did it. They were all legal back then. I mean, opium was legal back in the day, right? Yeah. The thing that's nasty about heroin, man, is the needle aspect of it. Right. And the disease transfer and things of that nature.
Starting point is 01:40:43 Don't a lot of people just sniff it, though? A lot of people do, but shit, a lot of them don't. Carl Hart was telling me he just sniffs it. Yes. And the disease transfer and things of that nature. Don't a lot of people just sniff it though? A lot of people do but shit, a lot of my folks don't. Carl Hart was telling me he just sniffs it. Oh, he just sniffs it? Just sniffs it.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Oh, he just sniffs it. Yeah. Oh, okay. Like you don't have to be like shoot in your veins. That's not necessary. That's what I'm saying. I don't think Diaz
Starting point is 01:40:58 ever did that either way, way back in the day when he had tried heroin. If they put heroin in a pill form or something like that then yeah, they'd probably make it work.
Starting point is 01:41:05 1924 it became illegal. Don't they, though? Isn't OxyContin? That's basically what it is. It's 100%. It's synthetic. Go back to that, Jamie. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:41:13 When did heroin become illegal? In 1924. See? After a few decades of legal use, heroin use and misuse rose rapidly. It became clear that heroin was a highly addictive substance. The United States government made heroin illegal in 1924. So this was, by the way, this was legal during the Prohibition era. Up until 24, right?
Starting point is 01:41:36 That's just because they didn't know how to sell it. When did the Prohibition end? The 30s. The 30s. Yeah, it lasted for a while. But it started, what, 1921, 1920? Yeah, they had some movements that didn't take off for a while, and then one finally stuck. Listen, man, if you could get away with not getting arrested during those days, you know how fun it would be to be drunk?
Starting point is 01:41:55 Well, not for us. Yeah, right. Not for you. Yeah, we can't really go back in time. We can't do that. But imagine if we could. You can't really go back in time. We can't do that.
Starting point is 01:42:02 But imagine if we could. I mean, if there was a time like today, like if they found out that alcohol was like the source of the resistance, like if they did studies and they found out, you know what? People are more willing to do a lot of things if they just don't drink. If there's too much, fuck it, in drinking. We've got to make drinking illegal. It's liver sclerosis, and it's contributing to the environmental problem that we're experiencing. If they just make alcohol illegal. It could have been the hospital thing again. But do you know how fun it would be to be drunk
Starting point is 01:42:30 if alcohol was illegal? Fine. It was though. It would be so fun. I mean it created mobsters in America. It did. It did. Al Capone made a lot of his money from Prohibition. A lot of the mobsters did. And we all learned. I mean I said you know street gangs and the drug hustle,
Starting point is 01:42:45 all that shit. Bro, that's where NASCAR came from. Right. NASCAR came from guys who were running whiskey in their cars and trying to get away from cops, so they souped up their cars.
Starting point is 01:42:54 Wow. Hell yeah. Isn't it wild as shit? Exactly. Moonshiners. So, yeah, we ain't got nothing from no heroin, though.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Nothing. You could die easy from moonshine. I got a fucking mason jar of moonshine someone gave me. Bro, you take an eight-hour glass, you're taking a dirt nap, bitch. You ain't going to make it. You ain't going to make it. Yeah, that shit is crazy, that moonshine shit. I can't fuck with that.
Starting point is 01:43:20 It's paint then. Yeah, I don't know if they make a – It doesn't taste good. See, Buffalo tastes good. Cheers, gentlemen. Cheers. I'm having a good time. My man.
Starting point is 01:43:30 Moses! And we're going to be judges tonight on Kill Tony. Oh, yeah. Or guests, whatever. I'm down there. And Alcum is in town, too. He got a show. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Alcum is. Earl Sweatshirt. There's a lot of shit going on actually is he in town this week oh they got the tour that dude he came on my podcast fat and then fit yeah now he's a bodybuilder but we worked out together we went over to the honor gym we uh we trained together i'm like this dude fucking really gets after it man yeah it's so impressive like a guy who just ate food and smoked weed his whole life and then all of a sudden trimmed himself down like this super fit like he got stuck in traffic
Starting point is 01:44:10 so he did 200 push-ups and 200 squats while he was stuff stuck in bumper to bumper traffic just savage get him bros and he's like a genuinely sweet guy look at him there bro that guy lost a fucking ton of weight. He did. And I'm telling you, when we work out together, click on that one where he's using that club belt right there. Yeah. Look at this. Dude, this is hard shit to do, man. These clubs, that dude is a tank now. Like we did a lot of shit together when we went to the, uh, the Onnit gym and we trained together and that dude is strong as fuck oh he's dancing yeah he's a he's a weightlifter now he's a bodybuilder well
Starting point is 01:44:50 you know what he does a lot of functional fitness stuff like he does a lot of kettlebells and maces and shit like that like when he's on tour he brings like kettlebells with him and he works out in the the green room and shit he's tires. He's doing all kinds of wild shit. Stuff I don't even do. Yeah, you look good, man. I'm glad. I'm telling you. He works out every fucking day.
Starting point is 01:45:10 I'm glad he got his shit together, man. I love when that happens. Isn't that nice? Yeah. Look at him. He used to be big. I fuck with Action Bronson. Look at that one where it's thin, though.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Look at that one right there where it says Action Bronson, Jamie. Right next to the big picture. Right next to the big picture. Right next to the big picture. Oh, sorry. It's a video game picture. Oh, it's fake. He's in a video game? Steven Glickman in that picture. Oh, they've created him in like UFC video game
Starting point is 01:45:37 or something. It looks like he's got UFC gloves on. Oh, you can do that? Someone needs to make you. How come no one's made young Jamie? They should give you a golf club, let you fuck people? You can create one. Someone needs to make you. How come no one's made young Jamie? I don't know that they have. They should give you a golf club, let you fuck people up. They will now. They will now.
Starting point is 01:45:51 I told you, I'm going to make this public. Kyle Kalinsky's challenged you to golf. Bring it. Wow. Strong. How much is on the line, too? Are you a badass golfer? I'm fucking up Tony already.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Okay, okay. I've heard. Listen, Jamie, I'm going to be there. I'm going to do blow by blow. Blow by blow? Are we talking about Coke again? Play by play. Play by play.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Okay, play by play. Misinformation, my bad. How was Roast Battle? It was perfect. Was it? Oh, my God. How's the energy here? Yo, I got to say this about Austin.
Starting point is 01:46:20 This is like the second best comedy city next to New York right now. The progression of this city becoming a comedy city is incredible. Now, the energy is great. The comics are all really, really good. I mean, yeah, fuck what you heard. Austin, they have really, really good stand-up out here. There's some hoes out here, too. I was in a strip club last night, BYOB, and we're going back again.
Starting point is 01:46:43 Heads up, ladies. He's the king of the strip club, man. Heads up, ladies. He's the king of the strip club, man. Heads up, heads up. Freddie, you're the king of multiple things. Yeah, man. A wide array, I should say.
Starting point is 01:46:53 Definitely, man. Austin's got a hell of a roast battle scene, though. They have some killers. Listen, man, when we open up, we're going to go visit my club as soon as we get out of here
Starting point is 01:46:59 and when we open up, dude, whatever you want to do. You want to come down once a month, you want to come down once a week, whatever you want to do. You want to come down once a month. You want to come down once a week. Whatever you want to do. I would love to have roast battle. Calling all roast battlers.
Starting point is 01:47:09 We're making a roast battle league. If you're in any city in the world. Roast battle league. We're trying to make an NBA, an MLB, an NFL. Yeah, we're trying to go to the Olympics. Roast battle is an Olympic sport. And I want to own you niggas like Jerry Jones. Back to slavery.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Roast battle was one of the first things that I saw that made me want to come back to the store. Thank you. So 100% true. I came in the day before Ari filmed the special. You know the story. I was gone from the store. I was banned for seven years. The exile.
Starting point is 01:47:38 And I was in exile. I was on my quest. And so I came to the store because Ari was doing a Comedy Central special, rather, the next day. And I was like, I can't just show up the day of a special. I'm going to show up a day before, and I'm just going to feel the place because I haven't been there in so long. And I saw Roast Battle. And I saw you, and I saw what you were doing, how you made people hug it out at the end of the like this horrible evil trash talking session with each other i'm like this is what the comedy scene needs yeah they need joke writing and bullshit and fun
Starting point is 01:48:11 exactly and fun yeah you had a handicapped person up there oh yeah joe your rail man joe your rail is a savage with the roast battle so you cerebral palsy he's in a wheelchair i mean like but he's one of the best roast writers i've ever seen bro Some of the meanest, funniest shit I've ever heard is during that roast battle. Yeah. I'll say it. Here's a joke. It's my favorite one at roast battle. It's talking about Joey Rose.
Starting point is 01:48:33 So Joey Rose got cerebral palsy. He's in a wheelchair, and the cat that was battling him, a Mexican cat named Albert Escobedo, he said, we all know Joe's going to hell because there's a stairway to heaven. Oh, yeah. I remember that. I was deafening it. I was deafening it. See, that's what I love about Rose Petal. Not that that guy had to experience that and feel that pain.
Starting point is 01:48:52 I don't love that. But I love the writing. Like, you have to write. That's in the spot. This is not an old joke that he's had forever. It's Spectre Gadget. This is going to blow up in 15 seconds kind of a thing. This is a writing exercise, and that's funniest possible shit. You could say right there. Okay, so case dog
Starting point is 01:49:10 That's a great essential. That's what it's all about everybody going in there is consent. It's UFC Yes, it's we're all consented to get our asses. Yeah, like if you watch someone get head kicked like bro You signed up for this you signed up for this. Yeah, you can't say Afterwards and sue us. Yeah, you have for this. You're in the cage. You can't say, yeah, you can cuss afterwards and sue us. Yeah, you asked for this. Yeah, rappers would never do that shit. No. Well, they do rap battles, but they be doing that shit. No, but we get a lot of rap battlers now.
Starting point is 01:49:31 They try to do roast battles. They try to do roast battles. They get cut up. Motherfuckers will really get bad. They be in their feelings. Yeah. Comedy is complicated. That's why you got a different thing.
Starting point is 01:49:39 You got battle rappers, and then you got rappers that make albums and make songs and shit like that. The niggas like make albums and make songs like that the that like make albums and make songs and like that like they would never like sit there and like battle each other and and somebody would get shot right get talked about right right yeah well how many think about how many like rap feuds have been going on throughout the day right like biggie and tup and Tupac. It's just a confrontational industry. East coast, west coast. Young black guys getting a lot of money that's egotistical. And guys coming up that wanna challenge them.
Starting point is 01:50:17 Remember Tim Dogg and NWA? We just talk about casking the face slice. Yes, that's the culture. That's the culture. Machismo. Machismo. Machismo. It's it. That's the culture. She's intertwined with the streets. It's just intertwined
Starting point is 01:50:26 with the streets. You know, if I was a country singer, I wouldn't worry about getting shot going outside. But, you know,
Starting point is 01:50:33 I'm a motherfucking rapper, so I'm like, God damn. Daris Rucker stayed away from hip hop. He was like, I kind of like this country. And another thing too,
Starting point is 01:50:42 you know what I'm saying? When you're a rapper, like every nigga in America feels like they could do your job. That's comedy. and another thing too you know what i'm saying when you're a rapper like every in america feels like they could do your job that's comedy though too but that's comedy for you you feel me every joker every dude is the life of the party he thinks he can go up and do stand-up but they all think they can also podcast too i'm just like you can't you're not that guy well i don't think people understand what podcasting is they don't It's the same way they don't understand what stand-up is.
Starting point is 01:51:06 I don't think I understood what podcasting is for like 10 years. It took me like 10 years to figure out what it is. I was like, oh, this is like a different kind of art form. Like everything. You can't just think you're just having a conversation with people. Because you're not really. You're being disingenuous. You're having a conversation with people and you're guiding it in an entertaining fashion.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Right. And you're trying to figure out how to like We've got a lot of shit to figure out bro Massage it You're the biggest voice in the world right now But that doesn't make any sense It's nice right I did not try for that
Starting point is 01:51:35 Dude I have no interest in that I don't When I sign on to Spotify I literally said to all my friends I was like dude this is going to be good I'm going to be like 25% less famous I go that be good. I'm going to be like 25% less famous. I go, that's what I want. I want to be like 25% less famous.
Starting point is 01:51:49 No, they lifted you up. Your haters lifted you up. It's not even just that. It's just like everyone that gets into a certain position doesn't think or talk sloppy. Like they talk polished and professional, and here we are on the set this is a wild scene
Starting point is 01:52:09 ladies and gentlemen there's only a certain amount of like real personality they're allowed to exude into whatever they say whether they're on a network news show or a talk show or whatever the fuck they are there's not a lot of people that are independent we're all confused and we're all trying to figure like is the pattern that everybody subscribes to is that the right one is that makes sense or is it just what we have to do if you want to just keep a job keep in line don't get in trouble don't get people mad at you yeah but if you're if you're allowed to just express yourself just freely is that how you would talk? If you have one life, it lasts maybe 100 years if everything goes perfect, and you're already 54.
Starting point is 01:52:54 What the fuck are you supposed to do? Are you supposed to pretend? Are you supposed to be just following along with all the other nonsense that's going on around you because you want a pension? What are you supposed to do? At what point in time are you supposed to go, hey, I don't think we have a captain at the fucking wheel of the boat. I think the human race doesn't have a captain at the wheel of the boat.
Starting point is 01:53:21 We should all have a conversation. I don't want to be the fucking man. I don't want to be the man. Nobody wants this job, right? No, no, no, no, no. I just want to let everybody know, like, we're all just fucking people. Whether you're a president or a prime minister
Starting point is 01:53:35 or a judge or a cop or a fucking pharmacist or a doctor, we're just people. And there's a problem with all kinds of labels and the way we look at each other. I will say this though. I don't think, I've never
Starting point is 01:53:53 seen a black person look like a Planet of the Apes. Like those guys don't look like black people. Like they're like, they look like, they look like, who do they look like? That cat from Princess of the Bride? The guy with the four fingers? Are you talking to me about the video where I said? Yeah, the Planet of the Apes thing. This is what I meant to say.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Listen to what I meant to say. Listen to what I meant to say. We were high as fuck. Yeah. And we got dropped off in this neighborhood. And we didn't know where we were going. The guy just let us out of the car. And we were barbecued going to see Planet of the Apes.
Starting point is 01:54:21 And I was trying to have an entertaining way of saying it was like we were in africa right it was like you even said that i mean joe i said right after i said it i go that's a racist thing yeah you're like oh i wasn't trying to say it that way look i fuck things up all the time which is fine africa niggas monkeys you can't really put that in the same shit no no no that's not what i mean i mean, Africa is where all the chimpanzees emerge from. It's a movie about chimpanzees. I didn't mean ever nor would I ever say. Bro, I know. I'm just, listen, here's the problem.
Starting point is 01:54:54 We got to spank you about it. Listen, I know you do. I know you do, but I have to be honest about it. I just talk shit about everything. I don't mean anything bad by it. But when I say something, I go, that's not what I meant. I really mean that's not what I meant. I never say something horrible on purpose.
Starting point is 01:55:12 If something gets fucked up like that. You had the niggas in Philly talking about, Joe thinks we some motherfucking monkeys. Listen, if anybody is one, I am. I didn't want to say that because that'd be racist. I have a whole bit. I have 57% to say that because that would be racist.
Starting point is 01:55:25 I have a whole bit. I have 57% more Neanderthals than a regular person. You have a whole special I have a whole bit about it. Like what I'm doing right now. I'm more Neanderthal than most people. Which is fucking obvious.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Yeah. I just want this for the you know the right and left wingers to be like ah these niggas are going to talk about it. Moses, I love you, so I'm glad you're the one who brought it up.
Starting point is 01:55:50 It's just one of those things. It was fucking 11 years ago. It's one of those things where you say and you're high. We used to do those shows back in the day, first of all. We would do them. We would smoke a volcano. You know those things? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:00 Those vaporizers? Oh, my God. Joey and Red Band and I i we hit that goddamn volcano and it just puts you in a coma and you you have to struggle with your own thoughts while you're thinking them i know trust me i do nigga jokes all the time when i'm high well i gotta do a video this week where i gotta be be set on fire, and I'm going to get a white stunt, man. What? Okay. You got to be set on fire for what?
Starting point is 01:56:27 Yeah, because I'm doing a video where I'm crashing from space. It's going to be crazy, man. From space? Yeah, man. Can't they CGI that shit in there? Nah, man. We got to make it real. You really going to go in space?
Starting point is 01:56:37 I think they can make it. Shipping you into space? But obviously, you're not really going into space, so why can't they CGI the whole thing? Everybody's like, when Freddy was in space, that was unrealistic. But once it got to the ground, boy, that looked like real fire. You see that shit with Bill Cosby, implemented black stuntmen in Hollywood, that was one good thing that he did.
Starting point is 01:56:55 What did he do? Bill Cosby's the first guy to bring in black stuntmen? Yeah. Was he really? That's what they said on the doc book, because before they had white dudes and they was just painting them black. Oh, my God. Oh, they was black facing them?
Starting point is 01:57:06 Yeah, they was black facing them. Because they was black facing Bill Cosby, Stuntman on I-Spy. Yeah, if I was Bill Cosby, I would have done that too. Like, hey, man, come on. Like, this is the most offensive shit. He put niggas on for Stuntman. They're like, Bill, what about that Spanish fly you doing? That's too.
Starting point is 01:57:20 That Spanish fly. Do you ever watch any of that Al Jolson shit? Dog. No. It's wild. It's got to be. Come on. Let's watch some of it.
Starting point is 01:57:30 Let's watch some of it. Let's watch some of it. Al Jolson was the first blackface guy, the minstrel guy from like the early 1900s. Yeah, he wasn't the first. He was the most famous. He was the most famous? Yeah. Well, one of the first is what I meant to say.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Oh, you that piece of shit. He was the most famous he was the most famous well one of the first So this guy back then like he would I mean you got to imagine what 1927 1927 so in 1927 this is how far human beings have gone in a hundred years these so the minstrel shows in them in the mid-1900s They are there or 19 like the most popular form of entertainment. Let's stop and think about... But what was so entertaining about being a nigga to them? White people hated black people, bro, back then. This is also what it was.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Like, the human race was emerging into a new understanding of what's fucked up and what's not. Post-Civil War, right. Yeah. What's okay and what's not okay and this this was the first time they were ever experimenting with media you got to realize in like the 1920s like they're making movies the first movies everyone anyone's ever seen so no one understands what it's like to make something that a lot of people are going to see no one knows
Starting point is 01:58:41 what it's like to to to like see something like this in a in a in a movie and then also they have this thing where they don't want a black person to play this role they want a white guy to pretend he's a black guy which is just crazy that's kind of because he doesn't look a look he looks like a guy with makeup on he does not this is like completely unrealistic this is the nice night though the Mitchell shows I mean like the other ones aren't this nice you know I mean like they're literally just portraying by eating watermelon and you know acting likes like runaway slaves and you know this is this is a little more stand-up
Starting point is 01:59:15 and they want to be a little more classy you know so crazy Robert Downey Jr. did it in a Tropic Dunder yes I talked to Jamie Foxx about that yeah how do people really it's like and I talked to Robert Foxx about that. Yeah, how do people really... And I talked to Robert about it, too. It's like, you can't do that today. No, you can't do that. You would never be able to do that today. How did he get away with it in Tropic Thunder, though?
Starting point is 01:59:32 He got a Golden Globe nomination for it. Really? Yes. Dude, it's a great performance. I mean, I hate to say it. Okay, Joe, you tripping again. Listen, I'm not saying he should do it. He definitely shouldn't do it again, and no one should make a Tropic Thunder 2.
Starting point is 01:59:48 No, but even people say they're like, ah, he's pretty good in the though. Yo, that movie. I'm a sociate from San Antone. There's a value into, oh, my God, you can't do this. There's a value to watching that. As a comic, when you're watching something, you're like, oh, my God, I can't believe you're fucking doing this. Right. Hey, man, do it.
Starting point is 02:00:05 Billy Crystal's been in blackface. Howard Stern's been in blackface. Jimmy Kimmel's been in blackface. Listen, that feeling of, oh my God, I can't believe you're doing this is why I love Kyle Dunnigan. Right. Right? Right. Did you see that Nancy Pelosi thing he just put up?
Starting point is 02:00:19 That's what I'm saying, man. Have you seen this? Yeah. Have you seen it? Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, he's probably out there. Have you seen this? Yeah. Have you seen it? Yeah. Oh, my God. It's goddamn genius. Him playing.
Starting point is 02:00:29 I want to see it. Pull it up. Pull it up, Jeremy. Yeah, but Dunnigan's brilliant. Dunnigan playing Nancy Pelosi on a fucking talk show. Just in time for the lightning round. No, no, it's sorry. Fire, fire, fire, fire.
Starting point is 02:00:43 That was easy. This should probably be a lure against congress people. Oh my fucking god. We just haven't gotten around to it. I mean, this is fucking amazing. Let's get batshit. Nancy Pelosi,
Starting point is 02:00:57 give it a financial advice show. Booyah. I read your husband bought Google just before the antitrust bill vote. You guys made $5 million? Mm-hmm. So was that like luck? Yes, it was a miracle. Thank you, George Floyd.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Look at her hands. She's got skeletons. Okay, Mark from Illinois. Booyah, Nancy. Booyah. Can I hold on to my Tesla position before the ED bill passes? Sell, sell, sell! That was easy.
Starting point is 02:01:28 A little birdie told me I'll be voting the other way. Great tip! You newbies at home, don't be discouraged. I lost a lot of money in the market, but things really turned around when i started making lures when we come back i'm gonna jingle all my jewelry in your face you'll like it kyle dunnigan's a goddamn genius i like that he's a genius i mean the thank you george floyd line is that is primo primo it was a miracle oh use that man to jump start their power i mean come on y'all oh my god my goodness get him kyle get him every time with that shit yeah thank you he does everybody too
Starting point is 02:02:22 he can do biden yeah he does an amazing biden he does a good michael jackson He does everybody, too. He can do Biden. He does an amazing Biden. He does a good Michael Jackson. He does everybody. Oh, my God, that Michael Jackson was ruthless. So it's not blackface if they do Michael Jackson? I was going to say, like, the deep fake. Can you blackface with deep fake? That's a very good question.
Starting point is 02:02:36 Yo! Right? If you're a white guy and you have to do, like, Samuel Jackson, is that what you have to say swaps that's blackface you have to face swap saying that is kinda that's new blackface that's digital blackface right so the only way you'd be comfortable with that is if it was a black guy doing Samuel Jackson's voice if there's a black guy who could they're doing this it's they're doing a caricature what they think is and then they have like the Samuel Jackson face swap.
Starting point is 02:03:05 That's okay. That's good. Yeah. That's cool. Do white people get mad? I'm just trying to lay down the laws for white people so everybody understands. Do white people get mad when Dave Chappelle do white face? No.
Starting point is 02:03:16 Or white chicks? Nobody gives a fuck. Yeah, Eddie Murphy, right? No. Because it's always punching down for white people. That's what it is. It's asserting power over people because they're the majority. So every time a black person does it, we're just punching up.
Starting point is 02:03:28 Oh, okay. Well, Pryor had the best version of it. Which one? Well, we had a bunch of, like, when he would do the best version of, like, the white guy voice. Oh, he created it. You're right. He created it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Hey, my mom was a wonderful gal. Right. They said, your mama. Yeah, he's like, yes, that is. My mom, well, my mom was a wonderful gal. They said, your mama. My mom, well, my mom was a wonderful gal. It's like 1950s, what was on TV. It's like Isaac Newton, white guys. It's like the fake dudes, like the very first people, like Leave it to Beaver. The dad on Leave it to Beaver never jacked off.
Starting point is 02:04:04 Why would I? it to beaver like the dad on leave it to beaver never jacked off why would i yeah that he does it the best right making you guys sound like yeah like emasculating a little bit yeah well not just that like turning them into like dopey robots right hey hey my gal why are you talking about my gal so it's like it's like they're stuck they're stuck like 10 years earlier when i mean when you look at like prior's emerging era which like the 1970s and like into the 80s, right? When he like emerged as a superstar. Like those people were dorks. I mean, it's just, it's brilliant to see like, hey, white people, I mean, nobody likes to be talked about.
Starting point is 02:04:37 But like here is one person who's making this like, it's obviously honky or white. Like those aren't as hard as the word, the N word. But when this cat's doing it it's almost like he's talking shit about us but this is really funny yeah they were happy to watch yeah yeah i think people were more comfortable with talking shit about each other back then too which is why archie bunker worked word do you ever see that the fucking scene where archie bunker is talking to sammy davis jr it's been going around like right now because it's like apparently today is the 50th anniversary of all in the family okay and archie bunker and sammy davis jr talking shit to each
Starting point is 02:05:12 other it is fucking hilarious it was hilarious yo you have that trying to find it man trying to find it's um it was the 50th anniversary sammy davis. and Archie Bunker talking shit to each other. It's so funny, man. It's so funny. It's like, it's what we, like most, it's like backstage, green room, shit talk. Talking shit. We talk so much shit to each other. We get so used to it.
Starting point is 02:05:39 Right, yeah. You can't be around normal people saying that because they get hurt. We talk so much shit to each other. But we talk so much shit about life, about everything. And your whole idea is like make the comics laugh. That's what it's all about. I mean, you know, that's what it's really all about. It's tough to do on this podcast because everybody's, you know, judging us for it.
Starting point is 02:05:57 Yeah, we'll be all right. Sammy Davis Jr., here it is. Can't learn him nothing. There's Munson with the briefcase nowadays, Sammy. I'll let him right in. Hi, Arch. Munson, we'll wait for you. Here it is. Can't learn him nothing. There's Munson with the briefcase now, Sammy. I'll let him right in. Hi, Arch. Munson, we're waiting for you. We're waiting.
Starting point is 02:06:10 I don't think this is it. I'm not sure if it's the right clip. It said he kisses him. Right. This one is a little longer, but I don't know if it's the right again. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But folks can find it if you just watch the show.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Whenever Sammy Davis Jr. was on with Archie Bunker, they talked a lot of shit to each other. It was very funny. Here we go. I just watched this one clip. I'll be here any minute. All right. Well, in the meantime, will you make yourself at home?
Starting point is 02:06:37 I'll get you some coffee. Oh, that's awfully nice. Yeah, sit right down here, Mr. Davis. Right in my chair. Make yourself comfortable. It's the best in the house. Listen, Mr. Davis, I got to tell my mother you're here she's crazy about it come on yous too you're done for here make the call we're gonna have to watch this whole show
Starting point is 02:06:55 to interpret this that's definitely not the scene okay it was just fun they were just talking to each other yeah it was funny man cold dude he's cold I mean what the stuff that he's seen and been through I mean being in the rat pack and all the racism but also being a Jewish cat you know he lost an eye right what happened I don't know I don't know but uh yeah Bushwick Bill also had to didn't he did that happen like it was that self-inflicted? I think so. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:07:27 Or was it a girlfriend? With Bushwick, I think a girlfriend did it to him, right? He did it. I think he did it. Self-inflicted? That's what made me want to listen to Ghetto Boys as a kid. I was like, this is some scary shit. Those are your guys, Ghetto Boys.
Starting point is 02:07:38 You always talk Ghetto Boys when we're hanging out. I love Ghetto Boys. When I delivered newspapers, I would listen to Ghetto Boys almost every day. Love the ghetto boys. When I was just beginning as a comedian, I would listen to cassettes. And I'd just drive around and deliver newspapers. And I'd listen to the same ghetto boys cassette like 30 fucking times in a row. That's what I had.
Starting point is 02:08:02 Ice-T, back in those days, when he wrote the soundtrack for Colors, and he was on the soundtrack. Oh, yeah, Ice-T, the man. Wasn't Sammy Davis, like, the first cat on, like, Playboy After Dark or something? What was that? Like, he was, like, was he on stand-up or singing? Playboy After Dark?
Starting point is 02:08:20 Yeah, the Hugh Hefner show. Oh, yeah, they was talking about that on the Bill Cosby documentary. Yeah. Hugh Hefner was, like, letting, like like black comics and stuff come in because they couldn't really go anywhere else and things of that nature so he was real uh instrumental in that those Hugh Hefner days are probably pretty fucking wild because that guy just like uh had a bunch of people over his house to party yeah and had a magazine. Everybody thought of Playboy as just being naked people,
Starting point is 02:08:48 which it was, but it was also interesting interviews. There's a whole lot. I read a book once that was the best of the Playboy interviews. Somebody gave it to me, a buddy of mine. Check this out. Is Kerouac in there? A bunch of people are in there. Sinatra was a big one.
Starting point is 02:09:04 A contributor? Yeah. What's like Kerouac in there, like a bunch of people are in there. Sinatra was a big one. Yeah. A contributor? Yeah. What's this? Sammy Davis After Dark. So this is on the Playboy channel? I think so. This is at the Playboy Mansion. No, I think it was like a network show.
Starting point is 02:09:16 Wow. Look at these people. They're from another planet. Stop for a second. Stop for a second. Stop for a second. Can you imagine if we had a way of using a telescope into space to check out another planet? When we saw America in 1950, we'd be like, oh, my God, look at these dorks. Right, though.
Starting point is 02:09:44 Separated, dressed up. I mean, like, yeah. Oh, my God, so weird. And also, like, no technology. I mean, yeah. Oh, my God. So weird. And also, like, no technology. Like, almost cave people. Where, like, a couple of generations removed from straight barbarianism. Like, in 1920, how many years of electricity are we even talking about?
Starting point is 02:10:00 Is it 100? I think it's still, what, kerosene, right? What year? Like, what year did electricity get distributed across the entire country? It depends what city you're in, because a lot of places didn't have it. Right. Well, let's go with Chicago. Yeah, so Chicago World Fair is like 1898.
Starting point is 02:10:16 They sort of showed it off. I mean, they had it up, but they showed it off. So that's almost 1900. This is only 50, 60 years later. That ain't shit, man. Right. That ain't shit, man. That ain't shit. No. That's such a small window of time.
Starting point is 02:10:30 And all of a sudden we have electric fucking record players. Yeah, we're doing everything now. What? Yeah, we got flying cars in like three years. I hope not. I'm going to be crashing like a boat. But I mean, between those 60 years, between no electricity and then movies, Chicago World's Fair, 1893. Wow. 1893. Wow. 1893.
Starting point is 02:10:49 President Grover Cleveland pushed a button that lit nearly 100,000 incandescent lamps illuminating the city, demonstrating how electricity will forever change the nation, making it readily available to residents everywhere. Wow, can you imagine being alive the day they hit the switch? I mean, that's it. No electricity ever. No electricity ever. And then all of a sudden, ka-chunk. Well, that creates nightlife, right?
Starting point is 02:11:19 Yeah. In essence, right? That's what it looked like. I think that's what they lit up. Yeah, nigga. If not, you was riding around in your buggy holding your goddamn lanterns. Right.
Starting point is 02:11:27 Or, yeah, you worked. But you know what the problem is? As soon as they turn that on, you stop seeing the stars. Exactly. That's the real mind fuck. The biggest advancement in human technological history is electricity, because it allowed all the other advancements to come out or out of it whether it's
Starting point is 02:11:47 Electronics or whatever the fuck it is everything has to be powered by electricity right? But when you turn it on you can't see the stars anymore, so you get confused So people only focus on their tasks It's almost like a little drug like a little sedative drug that keeps us from seeing the cosmos. So you only see like a blank slate. That would change human DNA, wouldn't it? Oh my god. We're so less
Starting point is 02:12:14 concerned about space and like the fact that we're hurling through it. Right. I think any civilization before light. I think when they didn't have light, they would look up and they would go, what? this is what they would see right she fucked them stars I need my iPhone I see your point as well and I think you're making some very valid points no I want my phone charged too.
Starting point is 02:12:45 I don't want to live like a fucking K person. You know, I like getting my email. I think what we need to do is figure out like a one holiday a year where everybody shuts the lights off. And just see the stars. Niggas gonna get robbed.
Starting point is 02:13:00 That's the purge, Joe. I was saying that as soon as I was saying it. I'm like, Joe, that sounds like the purge I was saying that As soon as As soon as I was saying it I was like Oh my god I'm like Joe That sounds like
Starting point is 02:13:08 The purge What is this buddy I was just reading About that vanishment They called it In Chicago It was a pastime Where people
Starting point is 02:13:14 Like people would Disappear Things could happen At night And then that ruined This The lighting Oh my god
Starting point is 02:13:19 Many unsolved Hurdles occurred In Chicago Oh my goodness Yeah see dude You can't Turn the lights on? Oh, shit, look at all these dead bodies.
Starting point is 02:13:26 You can't give people a purge day. No, hell no. Because then they want a purge week, and they want a purge month. They're like, fuck you, we're playing purge. Hey, Black History Month started with a day, and then it was a week, and now it's a whole two weeks. It was a Black History Day? Yeah, it was a day, then it was a week, and now it's a month. It was a day, then it was a week, and now it's a month.
Starting point is 02:13:48 You know when you guys pay attention to shit like when they make laws where you can steal as much as like $900 worth of stuff? Right. And then we won't even arrest you. So people just go, okay. And they just walk out of stores and steal $900 worth of stuff. Like what kind of message is that? That's like L.A. right now. I know, it's crazy.
Starting point is 02:14:03 Yeah. But it's like who came up with that idea? And did you think that shit through at all? And why are you still doing it? Like, imagine if you did anything else like that. Imagine if you said like, how long has that pan been on the stove? Five minutes? I think I can put my hand in it.
Starting point is 02:14:20 I think I'm okay. And you didn't like, you put your hand out of there. But if you're like, I'm just going to keep it and see how this turns out. That's what they're doing. Right. That's what they're doing right now. They're letting people just steal things. All the time.
Starting point is 02:14:35 All the time. And right back on the street. Yeah. Yeah. You obviously have a real problem. Do you want this to be like this? That's what we keep asking in LA. What's going on?
Starting point is 02:14:44 When you see like a thousand tents. Jail is packed.'s pack the jail is packed man they letting your ass out real quick see especially if you get covid like man i got covid man oh yeah i know a lot of niggas came up on covid i'm like damn nigga you snitch i was like nah nigga covid 19 snitching on covid yeah they let a lot of people out really early with covid they did a lot of people out really early with COVID. They did. A lot of people out. That's why. Crime rate is up. Yeah. The crime rate is up in Los Angeles. Why do you think that people mismanage things? Do you think it's a conspiracy?
Starting point is 02:15:15 Do you think they want a certain amount of chaos? That pandemic did a lot of crazy things to people. I've never seen what happened to humanity in America like I've seen what happened during the pandemic. To their minds, right? Everybody's a little bit more nuts on the coast. Well, they're a little bit more angry at random shit that goes on
Starting point is 02:15:37 that doesn't necessarily make sense. There was a certain amount of ridiculousness that would be attached to getting mad about things that weren't really that Infuriating right and then over time the it seems like the more safety people have The more they come up with shit that pisses them off So just excuse you get pissed off. I think people like finding enemies and anger other than themselves It's interesting.
Starting point is 02:16:05 I think it's a natural thing. I think we got two things going on simultaneously that we talked about earlier. We got the tribal thing where we all, every human on this planet originated from,
Starting point is 02:16:16 we originated from a small group of people trying to defend themselves against other small groups of people that were trying to steal resources. Until they figured out
Starting point is 02:16:24 agriculture and how to compound cities together that's all relatively new man like according to these people that study the human genome it takes like 10 000 years to see like these big changes in your dna we we have like the dna of people that live thousands and thousands of years ago they'd be identical to us. Generational fucking trauma, yeah. And they all have these imprinted memories of going to war with neighbors. Right. Do you know how like when the dark,
Starting point is 02:16:52 like every child, no matter where you live, when it's dark, what are you scared of? Monsters. Monsters. You know why? Because we used to get eaten by cats. Right. Big lions, yeah. We were afraid of lions and jaguars and leopards and big cats that would get us out of our houses, our shelters. We weren't top of the food chain.
Starting point is 02:17:15 We weren't top of the food chain. But we invented weapons and we became that, right? We became top of the food chain. But along the way, we developed these memories. And that's why little kids are scared of monsters. There's a guy named Rupert Sheldrake. He wrote about this. He was on my podcast way, way back in the day.
Starting point is 02:17:30 Really interesting guy. But he wrote about this, that this is the reason why these people have these memories and these fears. It's genetically driven. That's the same thing with tribalism. That's the thing that keeps us all from really connecting with each other to realize like everybody whether you're from sweden or africa or china we're just the only thing that can separate us is communication we're just if we all just figured out a way we where we can all like look at things rationally and say there's no reason for us to ever shoot missiles at each
Starting point is 02:18:07 other right nobody this isn't yeah this is for animals to try and kill us imagine if like aliens were invading like like reagan talked about that shit like the 1980s how quickly we would abandon all of our issues with each other if the human race is being attacked by an alien race from another planet yeah right we all right that was in a watchman wasn't it yeah like an alien like a octopus or something like that came down and then the whole human race just like formed together what was that in watchman oh the watchman yeah on hbo yeah that oh i didn't watch the hbo one i watched the movie that no it's better than the movie though really? That's crazy. It's the best series I saw before the pandemic. Oh. Ew, Regina King killed it.
Starting point is 02:18:47 Regina King killed it. Too many fucking things to watch. I know, but this one's good, bro. Okay, I'll watch it. This one's really good. Well, I just finished Ozark, so I got some room. Content is king. This one will fuck you up, though.
Starting point is 02:18:56 It's good. Yeah. Real good, yeah. Yeah, I watch my new show, Bust Down. Hey. What's that? Bust Down is a new show I'm on Peacock Jack Knight Sam Jay
Starting point is 02:19:06 So Peacock Chris Red It's a streaming NBC version Yeah It's like their HBO Max Yeah pretty much Yeah
Starting point is 02:19:14 So many of them That comes out March 10th March 10th Yeah Buzz Down's gonna be dope It's a culture changer It's good
Starting point is 02:19:22 What is it? It's a comedy about A casino in Gary, Indiana, actually. And I played the manager of the casino. That's good, right? It's comedy, dog. You know what I'm saying? I'm sliding into this comedy layer right now, man.
Starting point is 02:19:40 Look at you, Freddie. It's dope, man. Bro, I saw the first two episodes. I mean, Jack Knight, Sam Jay Langston Kermit, Chris Redd that's gonna be a hit man and Freddie is I mean if you've never seen Freddie Gibbs act to be funny
Starting point is 02:19:53 he's about to see it I could imagine you could do whatever the fuck you want Freddie I got a lot of big roles coming up right now you know what I'm saying well I'm excited to see you do a bunch of different shit yeah man I'm doing comedy action. You know what I'm saying? Well, I'm excited to see you do a bunch of different shit. Yeah, man. I'm doing comedy, action shit.
Starting point is 02:20:08 You know what I'm saying? I'm in a vampire movie that's about to come out. I'm in this other movie. You're in a vampire movie? Yeah, definitely. What the fuck is that? Oh, man, it's going to be crazy, man. What is it?
Starting point is 02:20:18 It's going to be crazy, dog. It's about some vampire cops and LAPD. It's going to be wild. Vampire cops and LAPD. it's gonna be wild. Vampire cops and LAPD. Yeah, it's gonna be wild. LAPD's in a weird spot now, huh? They're in a weird spot, bro. All cops in a weird spot.
Starting point is 02:20:33 All cops, all cops. How long before that balances out? I don't know, man. It's not good. Not good, kids. I don't know, man. There's been too many shootings, man, in the past. Too many everything. Forever, yeah, but you know. there's been too many shootings man in the past you know shit
Starting point is 02:20:45 too many everything forever yeah kids ain't in school man I just watched a video of a cop suplexing some drunk guy on concrete and I was so
Starting point is 02:20:55 it was so disturbing yeah I was like that's so god damn dangerous and if you could suplex a guy who's like some drunk dude
Starting point is 02:21:02 who's resisting doesn't want you to like arrest him like you could also just trip him you don't have to suplex a guy who's like some drunk dude who's resisting he doesn't want you to like arrest him like you could also just trip him you don't have to suplex him this guy hoists him up in the air and suplexes him like that is so unnecessary right so dangerous if you just do it do a dude like that and he hits his head he's a dead man right a dead man right i mean most likely a dead man like most likely like he's very i mean i don't know what the odds are of you getting suplex onto the fucking concrete of you're not having a crushed skull yeah that's bullshit but you at the very least you're getting
Starting point is 02:21:37 fucked up yeah that's it so here's it here's what it is so this guy is like resisting he doesn't want to get arrested we'll play it out here. The guy's like, no, leave me alone, leave me alone. He's a dork. He doesn't want to get arrested. Look at this guy. Boom. I'm telling you, man, that is on the concrete.
Starting point is 02:21:53 Knocks him 100% alcohol. The dude looked drunk anyway. Exactly. Exactly. Totally unnecessary. That's a white dude? A white dude did it to a white dude. Oh, ain't that bad.
Starting point is 02:22:03 So here it is. Ain't that bad. So here it is. Ain't that bad. Freddie! Oh, shit. I'm so glad you're alive. I'm so glad you're you, Freddie. Oh, my goodness. Listen, man, you're the perfect guy to come in and talk about all this shit.
Starting point is 02:22:18 When Moses was like, you want Freddie Gibbs and I to come in and talk to you? I'm like, fuck, yeah. I'm like, that's as real as it gets. I got the Agent Smiths coming after my man. I got to come get him. Listen, I love you. Yeah, man, I'm like the nigga Morpheus, man. I'm Morpheus.
Starting point is 02:22:32 Come down, man. I appreciate both of you, and I love you, Moses. Thank you, man. Always, man. I always love you. What you brought to Roast Battle was like a comfortable, like friendship sort of like vibe that allowed people to be savages against each other yeah i say i'm just like a point i'm a pastor but you kept it
Starting point is 02:22:53 friendly and nice work like everybody knew that when they were going to engage with you it was going to be friendly and that you're not volatile you're a nice guy no i'm not going to come out yeah so like you hosting that fucking show where people say the most evil shit to each other sometimes. Sometimes like we look at each other and we're like bite our hands. Right. I mean, and I'll say it again, the whole punch, no punching down thing. I get away with it because I'm black. There's a lot of racial jokes.
Starting point is 02:23:20 There's a lot of, I mean, there's all kinds of xenophobia, misogyny, all kinds of stuff. I mean, I'm not a woman, but I'm saying there's a lot of racial I mean, there's all kinds of xenophobia, misogyny, all kinds of stuff. I mean, I'm not a woman, but I'm saying there's a lot of racial jokes that go over in that thing, and you know, they look at you as like, are you going to get mad? And you're like, it's all good because we consented to it. And everybody's like, you know what, man? Since you're smiling, we're all going to smile.
Starting point is 02:23:37 Has anybody ever got mad at a Rose Battle? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I've watched people get mad. Oh, yeah. Because somebody said this, it was like, when you get hit with something you didn't think you'd prepare for, you're like, I know you thought that about me. Right. You know what I mean? And you're like, damn, I didn't know I had like, you know, big face or you thought about
Starting point is 02:23:54 my acne like that or, you know, I got a little dick or whatever the fuck they're saying about you. You know, it's like people come hard after your brother who's dead, after your family member who's dead. Damn. They do. They don't give a fuck. No matter, your dad just died, great.
Starting point is 02:24:06 First joke. Monsters. No bullshit. I watched, I mean, I don't even want to say what I watched, but the first time I watched it, I was like, wow. I go, this is crazy. Boys and girls going after each other. But the thing that I thought is like, this is like a joke writing exercise. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:24:23 Exactly. That's what always, that's always the baseline. It's a joke writing exercise. Exactly. Exactly. That's always the baseline. It's a joke writer showcase. It's not a thing where you're trying to be just mean to a person for no reason. You're only doing it if it's like, ah! Look, it's not nice to feel that if the punchline is on you, but don't sign up for it. Yeah. Don't sign up for it.
Starting point is 02:24:43 If you don't want to get kicked in the head don't fight exactly you don't want to fight in the ufc yeah good don't do it but if you do you might get kicked in the face right i there's so many comics who come in there they're just like oh i mean i just it's ah i just hate this but you know i gotta do it you know what i mean like i was almost like you feel like a bartender you're like like, bro, you can't have no more drinks. Let me tell you the most frustrating thing for me. There are people that do your show, and they come up with hilarious jokes to attack other comedians. They know they're coming for them. So they only got how many days you give them before they know that they're going to roast?
Starting point is 02:25:18 It depends. I mean, some cats, like, it's two days. It's a week. It's a month. What's the most they've ever had? Like a month? Like a month, yeah. Normal? What's, like, average? Average is's a month. What's the most they've ever had? Like a month? Like a month, yeah. Normal?
Starting point is 02:25:25 What's like average? Average is like a month. Okay. So a month is good. You give a nigga a month, research him. Hey, bro, you know the rap battlers do that too? Exactly. They get a year to write.
Starting point is 02:25:34 A month to write. A year? Yeah, like rap battlers? Yeah. That's not freestyling. Yeah. Oh, nigga, I can get up there and roast a nigga on the spot. I don't need no time.
Starting point is 02:25:43 I'm going to fuck a nigga up, man. Yeah, I mean, we get some freestylers up there but for the most part those are like street jokes you know so like a guy who writes it's like they come when you're writing for your your fucking history your personality and your flaws and you actually want your pros yeah you want the time for these guys yeah you want the time that's when you watch it and sometimes they hit a really clever note, and you're like, that's a kind of art. It's a different kind of art.
Starting point is 02:26:10 Yeah, it is. It's a subset of comedy the way that blues is like rock and roll is a subset of blues. You do got to prepare for them motherfuckers. They vicious. I agree. You right. Yeah, you were going to roast battle one time. I was like
Starting point is 02:26:25 You better write something It's a kind of It's a kind of art It's like It's part of comedy But it's a part of comedy The same way country music Is a part of rock and roll
Starting point is 02:26:35 Right It's like It's kind of connected But it's a little different Yeah The girl who wrote The roast battle book Julie Seba
Starting point is 02:26:41 She says it's another pillar now In the whole genre of comedy Right I agree Sketch, stand up Yeah Improv Here's the one that's missing Props The roast battle book, Julie Sebaugh, she says it's another pillar now in the whole genre of comedy. I agree. Sketch, stand-up, improv. Here's the one that's missing. Props.
Starting point is 02:26:50 Props. Carrot Top got so goddamn successful, everybody else abandoned props. Right. He's the guy. Nobody's going to be like, oh, he's like Carrot Top. Exactly. You can't have props. Gallagher had the best props to me. Pretty good props.
Starting point is 02:27:03 And a sledgehammer. Yeah. Everybody got plastic. Pretty good props. In a sledgehammer. Yeah, everybody got plastic. Plastic sheets that would cover each other. He would smash fruit. Yeah, my dad used to watch a guy with a girl with a girl. It'd be funny if Louis
Starting point is 02:27:14 starts doing that. He just starts jerking up in front of the crowd and they get the spring crap over him. Can you imagine if he did that? Oh my God. That would be funny.
Starting point is 02:27:23 Yeah, if he did it on Patreon. Right. They'd ask for it. Or what's he on? Only Fans? Mm-hmm. Oh shit. Louis C.K.'s Only Fans.
Starting point is 02:27:33 Only Fans comedy. Be lit. Louis do that tomorrow. Yeah. Only Fan. He'd be jacking off on them. Yeah. Oh well.
Starting point is 02:27:40 People are paying for it. They want to see it. Yeah. If you had a choice, be poor or let people pay to watch you jack off. I'm telling you, that pandemic lockdown changed the game. There's so many small
Starting point is 02:27:53 business ladies and men out there who were doing the OnlyFans thing. I mean, they make a living off of it, bro. OnlyFans made a lot of money. How many single moms I know who were like, yeah, I quit my job, but I'm killing it right now? Playing with their pussy at home. I support the small business.
Starting point is 02:28:11 OnlyFans, you changed the game. But here's the real question. What's more embarrassing? What sucks more? What makes you feel worse? Working a 12-hour shift at Denny's or an hour in front of your computer? Dog, I'm not working at Denny's. I ain't working at Denny's or an hour in front of your computer. Dog, I'm not working at Denny's. I ain't working at Denny's.
Starting point is 02:28:29 Showing your butt. Jacking his mother. Comedians flock to OnlyFans as the comedy world clutches pearls. As the pandemic shutters comedy venues nationwide, female comics are trying out the not safe for work subscription site. But can stand-up culture handle the change?
Starting point is 02:28:48 I would much rather do that than fucking telemarketing. I just typed in comedy and I see what was there. What was your day job before you started killing it? Look at this. But can stand-up culture handle the change? Who the fuck are you? Who's running this? It ain't like your mom I'm subscribed to.
Starting point is 02:29:04 Like sex work hasn't been a thing forever. We can't handle it, Brian. You can't handle the truth. I can't. Imagine. Can it handle the change? Oh, I don't know. You think it's gonna be okay?
Starting point is 02:29:16 Fuck that. I'd rather be jacking off than working at Denny's. Thank you. Like, would you really be upset if one of your friends used to be a secretary and she hated her job and she made you know what what does the secretary make i don't know what is that are they still not enough yeah are they called personal assistants now right not secretaries executive assistant well maybe they can make enough they can you could be a paid secretary or executive assistant but you could probably just hate your boss what is i mean listen it's we're talking about sex work right so i mean it's it
Starting point is 02:29:50 just depends on if that's embarrassing to you there's teachers and shit that got only fans you know what i'm saying yeah cops can't because you get fired she could put a gopher mask on and masturbate in front of a camera and make way more money than she makes at Sears. Yeah. Why wouldn't she do that? Why wouldn't she do that? It gets fucked or fucks herself, yeah. Of course there is.
Starting point is 02:30:14 You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. There's probably a hundred of them. Exactly. There's probably like anti-clown girl masturbate lady. Yeah. And they're making dough. I mean, subscriptions for what?
Starting point is 02:30:24 Yeah, for almost like, you know, streaming prices. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. And they're making dough. I mean, subscriptions for what? Yeah, for almost like, you know, streaming prices. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, hopefully they don't get to that,
Starting point is 02:30:30 but if times get hard, I'll fuck on the OnlyFans. Fuck. If times get hard. You'll just do that? I'll just do it. Shit. I'll be,
Starting point is 02:30:39 oh yeah, instead of like, yeah, I was telemarketing when I started stand-up, so yeah, I'd much rather do that. Me too.
Starting point is 02:30:43 I did that bullshit. I used to call niggas and be like, yeah, sir, would you like to get a Discover card? They'd be like, nigger, please. Like, I ain't getting no card for your black ass. Fuck, you trying to shoot. Oh, man. Do you remember the Columbia Record and Tape Club? Oh yeah
Starting point is 02:31:06 The Columbia House We did like 50 CDs For one cent Yeah And then afterwards You had to be a part Of a subscription But nobody paid them
Starting point is 02:31:14 Yeah yeah I signed my mama I signed my mama For that shit She beat my ass I wanna know What kind of Ponzi scheme Was that?
Starting point is 02:31:22 Cause where did All that money go? Right Who made the money? They sent you a bill. Everybody got free CDs. That's how niggas got the motherfuckers. You remember when Girls Gone Wild came out?
Starting point is 02:31:34 Right. And they just took your credit card number. You was just getting videos and naked shit every month. Wouldn't even stop it, right? Yeah, it was a subscription. Yeah, you couldn't get disconnected. You'd have to change your credit card. Just crush your interest rates. Yeah, you couldn't get disconnected. You'd have to change your credit card. Just crush your interest rates.
Starting point is 02:31:45 Yeah, you ordering a Girls Gone Wild. Man, my daddy had a Girls Gone Wild coming to the house every motherfucking week. Well, if it wasn't that, I don't know about Girls Gone Wild. I have no knowledge about that. But if there was something else, there was a bunch of different things that they did, like different self-help subscriptions you would sign up for. The early days of credit cards, no one knew what was going on. Right.
Starting point is 02:32:07 Credit cards aren't that old, right? They're like from the 80s. I used to play pool with a guy who went to jail for making fake American Express cards. Damn. Yeah, his name was International Sal. Oh, shit. That sounds like a nigga that needs to go to jail.
Starting point is 02:32:19 He was probably doing that. International Sal was a big pool gambler, and I met him at this- How many pool gamblers did you know? I knew a lot. You were one of the smoke crackers. This one was a big pool gambler. How many pool gamblers did you know? I knew a lot. You remember when I smoked crack? Yeah, I was a misfit when I was in my 20s.
Starting point is 02:32:32 When I went from Boston to New York, I didn't have any friends. I started hanging out at this pool hall. I met a bunch of dudes at the pool hall. A buddy of mine was a comic, my friend John Tobin, who also was like he also was a manager at this pool hall. He would do like or was you know do you know? do a shift and
Starting point is 02:32:53 He was a comic and we would hang out there and we all like he and I would like this is a wild crazy place Yeah, some really fucking interesting people a lot of Professional gamblers and a lot of addicts and a lot of people that were just like homeless folks who would just come in and hang out. So that was like my early 20s. Okay. Shit. Pool gambling. Damn, people still did that shit.
Starting point is 02:33:14 Yeah, dude. When I was in New York City in like the early 90s, there was a ton of dudes who would just be hanging around pool halls trying to get games and gambling. And they didn't have any jobs. They slept on park benches. They slept under pool tables. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:33 For the lovers of fucking billiards. It wasn't that. It's just like they could kind of barely get by that way. And that was better than a job. Right. They would rather get by that way, barely, than wear a suit and show up at a fucking office. Well, let me ask you a job. Right. They would rather get by that way, barely, than, you know, wear a suit and show up at a fucking office. Well, let me ask you a question. Would you rather be shooting pool
Starting point is 02:33:49 or jacking off in front of your camera? It depends on how much you can make shooting pool. I mean, what kind of money are we talking about? Everybody says, I would never jerk off in front of a camera. You wouldn't jerk off in front of a camera for $89 billion. Yeah, you would. You'd be like, wait.
Starting point is 02:34:12 I'd jack off in front of a camera for $89,000. Right. You'd be like. Bro, I'm telling you. Write it right now, nigga. I'm telling you. There you go. For $89.
Starting point is 02:34:21 These guys would do it for $89. Would you want to watch? There was a Reddit thread about. value of semen for alive U.S. presidents, and Obama's was the most. What? He should sell it. He should get on eBay. Dog, I'm saying. Imagine if Michelle left Barack and he just started selling his sperm.
Starting point is 02:34:40 I'm saying. Slang and cum? I'm saying. Slang and cum? If you're a famous guy, like The Rock, if The Rock wanted to sell his cum, do you know how much he gets? Damn. Imagine.
Starting point is 02:34:58 Just imagine. I'm not saying you should buy it. I'm not saying you should. I don't support this in any way. But imagine a world. Look, if we can imagine Nazis, we can imagine a world where the rock sales has come. What's the price of nut, though? Also, is it the price of gold? He can only do two a day.
Starting point is 02:35:18 Who's evaluating it, being like, this is pretty good? The market, same as Sotheby's. And then buy a painting. Uncut gems and cut gems. Right. Like, how much can I sell an ounce of nut for? Yeah, man. If you want to see a fucking car auction, those Barrett Jackson car auctions.
Starting point is 02:35:35 We have a 1940 Dwayne the Rock Johnson. It's all about demand. We got one of the Rock's nuts from 2017. That's a good year. Let's go. That's a good year. That's like, yeah. He signed the Rocks nuts from 2017. That was a good year. Let's go. That was a good year. That's right, yeah. He signed the Rocks.
Starting point is 02:35:48 Signed. He signs the fucking test tube. It's like they open the jar. It's all fucking dry ice, steam. By the Rocks come. Cryogenically frozen, the Rocks come. That's worth a million dollars. So in my mind, 100%'s worth a million dollars. So in my mind,
Starting point is 02:36:06 100% it's a million dollars at least. We're being conservative here, okay? If the rock can jerk off twice a day, he makes $2 million a day minimum. Damn, that's a check. Dog. Yeah. I mean, you try to sell your catalog.
Starting point is 02:36:23 $60 million a month, rather. $60 million a month. I think about how many times I jacked off this week. I mean, you try to sell your catalog. $60 million a month, rather. $60 million a month. I think about how many times I jacked off this week. I've been bowling. I've been bowling literally. Imagine if The Rock jerked off twice a day and sold it, and he made billions of dollars. He'd be the new Elon Musk.
Starting point is 02:36:41 This is what I want to know. Who will take care of all these goddamn kids, though? Who's responsible? Who's responsible? Does he have to give a percentage of that to child support? Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 02:36:54 That's how they get it, nigga. That's like the lottery, right? Yeah, that's how they get it, nigga. That's how they get it, nigga. Child support will bring you your whole worth down? That's crazy. That's so funny. Because you technically are the father.
Starting point is 02:37:06 Just because you didn't experience pleasure, that is your child. Right. They would appeal to you on a moral level. That is your child. Yes, your child. Just like in that one movie, She Hate Me with Anthony Mackie when he fucked all them hoes when he was giving his sperm out. You seen that?
Starting point is 02:37:22 I didn't. You got to watch that. Then I would make sure my cum is spoiled first. It's got to be dead. Throw a hot sauce on it. Spoiled. Isn't that what Drake did? Didn't he throw a hot sauce
Starting point is 02:37:32 in his condom? Yeah, that was like the rumor. I don't know if it's real. Of course it's not real. Okay. It's like the Stephen Seagal story from Ukraine. Just because it's not real
Starting point is 02:37:42 doesn't mean it's not funny and you shouldn't tell it. Hot sauce on my cum. So you're going to sell a bunch of fake dope, fake nut. Ukraine. Just because it's not real doesn't mean it's not funny and you shouldn't tell it. That's awesome. So you're going to sell a bunch of fake dope. Fake nut. You still love basil and oregano as weed? No, no, no. You can't do that. You got to be a man.
Starting point is 02:37:56 You're going to sell your real cum. And as you get older, it's more precious because you don't have as much. It's like diamonds. It's like De Beers. They keep that shit squirreled away for a reason. You get some of that Frank Thomas on New Genix, you'll be all right. So might come on NFT. Yeah, cum is only valuable when a woman wants it.
Starting point is 02:38:18 Right. Right, which is like how much time do you have? At what point in time do you can keep it? Auction and off cum. Damn, that's wild. There's certain people that can do it that's right it's a select few right you're in that group bro if a woman could show an nft of her asshole like how how many women can make money doing that there's a lot i know i know it's gross but it's the same thing as who's buying cum like what are people doing what are people doing my fuckers will buy that shit what are people doing they're distracted
Starting point is 02:38:49 by all kinds of nonsense I mean that's crazy people out there because that would be like one of the greatest heists ever if you could get Barack Obama's cum wow that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying it's so fucking so fucking horrible. It sounds terrible. It does. But if, I mean, imagine a world where that wasn't a moral quandary. It wasn't a giant issue. He's sorry, Michelle. Yeah. Sorry. Everyone's sorry.
Starting point is 02:39:11 I'm not saying it's going to happen. Bill Clinton might be like, fuck it. And look, you can take a nigga nut. That ain't guarantee your kid going to be a president. That motherfucker might be a crackhead at a pool hall. You dig what I'm saying? Yes. True.
Starting point is 02:39:23 True. Most likely. Who's else? Obama? Yes. True. True. Most likely. Who's else? Obama? Most likely not going to be a president. Most likely, there's no way he'd be a president. Right. The president is like the number one least likely job you would ever have.
Starting point is 02:39:39 Right. It's only one of them. If you said there's no guarantee that if it, the only problem is the last name. If he gets the last name. It's Obama. Get the last name. Like, Kennedy's.
Starting point is 02:39:55 Yeah, that Kennedy last name. Right. You know, there was JFK, there was Bobby Kennedy. You know, how many Bushes have we had? I'm shooting my nut out there for money. I want to be anonymous. I don't want to know them motherfuckers. Fuck them kids.
Starting point is 02:40:05 There are sperm banks. I guess they already do this. You bought it, bitch. You take that motherfucker. You bought the nut. You take what come with it. You bought it. You bought this motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:40:16 You broke it, you bought it. Yeah, that's what I would have to do. I'd have to sign a motherfucking... NDA. Yeah, NDA. NDA.
Starting point is 02:40:22 A nut disclosure agreement, bitch. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's perfect. Fuck the kids. Yo kids, bitch. Fuck the kids. They can't have a name Hell no
Starting point is 02:40:46 You can buy the name For a separate fee You could be a Gib That little motherfucker Could be my name Imagine if you just Jerked off into a cup For a living
Starting point is 02:40:54 Like that's your move And you realize like Listen I can make A thousand dollars a load I don't have to talk To nobody Right I just have to jerk
Starting point is 02:41:02 Fuck a job I mean Your jizz is worth At least $1,000. But I had to take a week or two off because, you know what I'm saying, I ain't going to want to fuck no hoes. You know what I'm saying? I know. That's going to be a problem.
Starting point is 02:41:12 Post-nut clarity is a both. You have to decide how much money you want to make in a week. Right. You don't have to fucking do it every day. But if you thought about, like, if there was an ingredient, if you wanted a child and there was an ingredient that you can add to an egg that would make a person 100% of the time, how much is that worth? Damn. Maybe we could make it synthetic.
Starting point is 02:41:34 You don't need real nuts. Bro, that's how the robots take over. That's how the next version of humans with no emotions take over. You don't want that. What we are right now, we're flexible. The next version of humans with no emotions take over. You don't want that. What we are right now, we're flexible. Right. We can get along. They're already making test tube babies and shit with eye colors and shit like that.
Starting point is 02:41:54 That's what I hear, but I don't know if that's true because I don't fucking research it. We're the misinformation crew. Come on now. Maybe the misinformation crew. But Musk is building those humanoid robots. No. No. No. He's building those humanoid robots. No. No. No.
Starting point is 02:42:06 He's not building humanoid robots. What are they? Where'd you hear that? Can we look that up? Elon? Yeah, Elon Musk. Really? They said they're putting more money into robots, and they're pushing back on Tesla production.
Starting point is 02:42:20 Hmm. Well, he's doing a bunch of stuff, right? One thing he's doing is this Neuralink. Yeah, I don't want that. It says Tesla is working on humanoid robots. I don't want that. A prototype is supposedly coming sometime next year. I don't want that.
Starting point is 02:42:34 What? What is this? Oh, I'm saying. Oh, this is like last year, 2021. He's been saying this. Oh, shit. No, that's kind of, we don't need that. I don't think that, this is where I got confused.
Starting point is 02:42:43 I don't think they're like abandoning anything else to do this. Why do we need it? No, they said they were going to push back, yeah, because he wants to really work on these. need I don't think that well this one I got confused. I don't think they're like abandoning anything else Why do we know they said they were gonna push back? Yeah, cuz he wants to really work on me But I don't understand. Why do we need a robot person? That's how we've seen all the movies Terminator 2 come on now fucking fuck you up. I don't want it So he's gonna push back because he wants more resources for the robots I don't know if it's resources, but I just read it literally on BBC last week. It ain't cool.
Starting point is 02:43:08 So what did he say? He said that what they want to do is develop new robots. Like, what is he saying? He said they'll handle tasks that are unsafe, repetitive, or boring. Oh, my God, that's how it begins. Like, jerking people off. Right, exactly. What's more unsafe, repetitive, or boring? Like, jerking people off. Right, exactly. What's more unsafe, repetitive, or boring?
Starting point is 02:43:25 It's jerking people off. Imagine. The number one death in America is your dick getting ripped off by a robot. If they're all in a room, if they're on a glass room, an executive room, and they go, do we want to make money or not? Are we playing games here? We need these hot robots that would jerk guys off. Let's cut the shit.
Starting point is 02:43:42 Let's just have them wander through the streets. Well, they got them sex dolls. New slaves. With the sex. Let's just have them wander through the streets. Well, they got them sex dolls. New slaves. With the sex dolls, if you turn them into robots, I wouldn't fuck no robot pussy. You wouldn't fuck a robot pussy until it became seductive. I mean, I've seen that. Until it became so interesting.
Starting point is 02:43:57 Oh, no. Until it became so soft and supple and it looked you in the eyes, Freddie. And it didn't care about anything but you and just started stroking the back of your neck and you like is this a robot what is happening right and then this robot they're gonna make it right this robot with a perfect face that speaks to your dna they made that one movie what's it called ex machina yeah but but that lady was see-through and that guy still wanted a
Starting point is 02:44:22 imagine one imagine a see-through imagine one that wasn't at all any different than you biologically yeah it was just created from a computer and you fuck it like weird science if it was just but here's my thing i would have fucked shit out of that weird side by the way by the way she used to be married to steven seagal she was married to ste Seagal. She was bad as fuck. She was so cool. Back to Steven Seagal. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:48 What I'm saying is if they had a robot that was indistinguishable from a person. Right. Like our idea as a robot has to have like screws and bolts and shit. But what if it's a robot where it's like artificial skin, artificial flesh, but all of it mirrors. And you knew it was a robot? And you could turn the bitch on and off whenever you want to? Nope, nope, nope, nope. Nah, I need a switch on the bitch.
Starting point is 02:45:12 Because if I could have that, I'd marry the hoe. You say that, Freddie. I'm like, boom, boom, bitch. Freddie, this thing is not really a person, but it kind of is really close to a person. It would look and feel like real person
Starting point is 02:45:25 exactly like better better than real it's got to figure it out whoa and and freddy freddy like some terminator 2 pussy and freddy it loves you it loves you does it have a fuck it loves everything i don't need that bitch to love me i need to have my own and off switch but it loves everything about you i just need to own it wants to hug you and care for you and it's always there for you freddie i don't want that i just want some pussy freddie don't crave him to intimacy intimacy it's basically what we saying here i don't need maybe not from humans maybe like freddie's doing a commercial for these robots like two years later i mean you almost told me i was like she loves me i'm like man she loves you i'm so emotionally stunted I'm like, man. She loves you.
Starting point is 02:46:05 I'm so emotionally stunted. I'm like, Jesus, this is perfect. Haven't we done that kind of with dogs? Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 02:46:11 I ain't fucking my dog, though. No, no, no, no. But the love that your dog gives you, it doesn't have to be sex, but the love that your dog gives
Starting point is 02:46:19 you is unmatched. I seen a bitch kiss a wolf. You seen that shit? The bitch tongue. Tongue kissing a motherfucking wolf. I seen a bitch kiss a wolf. You seen that shit? The bitch tongue. Tongue kissing a motherfucking wolf. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.
Starting point is 02:46:30 I was like, what? It was a bunch of wolves. They came and they tongue down the bitch. You remember I posted that shit? I saw that, yeah. That shit was crazy. I thought the wolves going to run a train on that bitch. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:46:40 Wolf pussy. If a woman can have a wolf as a pet, that's like number one. Right. I don't think they was pets. She was just in the woods fucking with some wolves. I mean, a wolf is cool. What the fuck is cool about a wolf? You seen Game of Thrones?
Starting point is 02:46:55 Nah, I ain't even peeping. Yeah, yeah. I'm not fucking with no wolf, nigga. Dude, you know how hilarious that is? I mean. This conversation right here about wolves. A wolf is so fucking cool. give me a fox or a wolf look at this crazy lady
Starting point is 02:47:08 man she kissing a fucking wolf his eyes are closed he's ready to fuck plus she's probably got a bunch of salt and sweet stuff around her face he's tasting her ain't no fucking way nigga it just takes one.
Starting point is 02:47:25 It just takes one. Shit, what if the nigga be like, I'm hungry, bitch. There it is. Do you know that during the World War I that they stopped the fighting between the Germans and the Russians to fight off wolves? Wow. They made a truce. It was that many wolves?
Starting point is 02:47:39 There was that many wolves. That's why it was so cool. They were fighting and, like like they were getting shot they were leaving behind wounded people the wounded people would get attacked by wolves and so the wolves started figuring out that these battlegrounds they hear these bangs go off that that meant that there was gonna be wounded people somehow or another I don't know how wolves figured out but they come close to each other
Starting point is 02:48:05 soldiers on World War I's eastern front fought a common enemy wolves so these people would get hurt and then these wolves would show up and just start eating these people alive like fuck that guy gets shot in the leg and can't run away
Starting point is 02:48:21 and a wolf just takes him down and eats him dick first that was real dick first. That was real. Dick first. Dick first. So the military, we need that. The US military needs just like a pack of wolves. But this is a real thing that happened.
Starting point is 02:48:33 Imagine how crazy it is. The Russians and the Germans. There's an article on Meat Eater about it because they kind of questioned, like I told this to Steve Rinelli, he's like, what? That's crazy. And then it turns out it's true, which is I'm not 100% on those. I'm like 8 out of 10 on those. Sometimes I get some stories that it's just straight up horseshit.
Starting point is 02:48:55 But that one turned out to be real. They really did have a ceasefire between the Nazis and the Soviets. That's, I mean, that's beautiful. It's wild shit. The Russians and the Germans decide, I don't think it was the Nazis back then, right? No, they were Nazis. Not Nazis, I'm sorry. My apologies.
Starting point is 02:49:15 The Germans and the Soviets in World War I, and they talked to each other and they said, we got to fight these fucking wolves. All they had to do was send that bitch down there to kiss all them motherfuckers. Though seemingly far-fetched, it turns out these claims are mostly accurate. Historians estimate that soldiers killed hundreds of wolves during the war and that the
Starting point is 02:49:36 surviving wolves fled to escape a carnage the like of which they had never encountered. So this is just these soldiers decided, for a brief moment, read this, a kind of peace spread across the battlefield even though gunshots and
Starting point is 02:49:51 grenade explosions continued to ring out. I mean, you know, that's what stopped the war. But listen to this, even though gunshots and grenade explosions are going off, at least they don't have to worry about wolves. They're comfortable that they can just fight people.
Starting point is 02:50:11 They don't have to fight these animals that are going to eat them. Yeah. See, so that would create peace. Like, okay, yeah, we're all humans and we got to kill these other animals. Yes. That human nature takes back over again. Yes. It's like what Ronald Reagan said. We all become like a group.
Starting point is 02:50:22 We're all a community. But that's what we're supposed to be. A wolf will fuck you up. go send some go send some wolves to the Ukraine of Russia let's get a peace treaty cracking yeah but wolves can't fuck with the guns we have now this right we got missiles in a different world 15 drones we're gonna send robots to fuck you up from the sky shoot the fuck out of Germans Germans used to recruit U.S. black soldiers back in World War I.
Starting point is 02:50:48 Germany did? Germany did. They would use propaganda like flyers and they would pass them out to some of the black soldiers and be like, hey, you should fight for us
Starting point is 02:50:54 because they don't respect you over there. Really? They did that in Vietnam too. There you go. Yeah. Well, they don't do that anymore, thankfully.
Starting point is 02:51:03 And thankfully, the government now is only honest so they had nigga nazis no it's before this before world war ii but they definitely didn't have they had to have black nazis they did yeah that's crazy now this is in watchman oh yeah but i knew about this before watchman so it says the world war one propaganda flyer in this week's the watchman was real wow dude that whole war was made on bullshit it was all the golf of tonkin incident they made up an attack yeah there were black nazis though that's why that's why if you can get a rachel dolezal you can get a black nazi right don't you think right
Starting point is 02:51:43 it's just a it's just like you decide you commit to a thing whatever it is you can get a black Nazi. Right. Don't you think? Right. It's just like you decide, you commit to a thing, whatever it is. There's people, that white underbelly, the soft white underbelly YouTube thing I was talking about, there's so many people there that are just so lost. You realize that anybody could have got them. The Moonies, the Moonies could have got them. Like any kind of cult could have got them. Right. The people get caught up in a place where they don't know what the fuck to do.
Starting point is 02:52:06 And then someone comes along and that someone has a thing that they can join, like a group they could be a part of, whatever it is. Like, hey, we're all doing this. That seems cool. I'm going to go do that. Our fucking problems is that people have too much power over other people when they're telling them what to do. It's just too much.
Starting point is 02:52:26 When you get a guy who can force a war with Ukraine, who can just decide he's going to mobilize all these super sophisticated high-tech jets and shoot missiles. That's what they're trying to say about you and the COVID thing. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, he's got too much power.
Starting point is 02:52:43 Like, anybody who listens to Rogue and A, come on, man, we have our own mean? They're like, oh, he's got too much power. Like, anybody who listens to Rogue and A, come on, man. We have our own brains. They're calling your listeners stupid. Brian Moses is hitting all the hot topics today. Dog, I'm in. It's my man.
Starting point is 02:52:54 You know what I mean? Leave him alone. But the thing is, you're not supposed to have an opinion. Right. It's like one of the rare times in history
Starting point is 02:53:02 where you're not supposed to have an opinion. Right. You know, it's. When did the shift happen? Like, I'm not. I wouldn't 100% say don't listen to me in terms of, like, don't do what I do. But don't stop me from talking about what I think.
Starting point is 02:53:16 Thank you. It's not smart. That's not smart for any of us. For any of us. We're having a conversation. Everybody should be able to talk about what they think. Yeah. And let's figure this out
Starting point is 02:53:25 Yeah If you're gonna be real about it It's up to them to decide Yeah you can't tell me What I shouldn't think If I'm listening to my man Right here Right you can't do my nigga
Starting point is 02:53:33 Like Papa John Ah Ha ha ha ha ha Fuck Papa John This piece was alright But damn Niggas Facts
Starting point is 02:53:42 They fuck Papa John He's still running that shit Though on the low I'm sure he's evolved Papa John up. He's still running that shit though, I don't know. I'm sure he's evolved. He's getting money. He's involved in some way. Yeah, they put Shaq in there. They put the biggest nigga they can.
Starting point is 02:53:51 They said, okay, y'all against niggas, we're going to put the biggest nigga in the country. Come get this racist pizza. Make sure you niggas eat this pizza. Talk about the Shaq-a-roni. What the fuck are those Shaq-a-roni? Shaq-a-roni There's there's a suggestion there Is okay, why'd you come up with that word? Was talking to this hater at the Comedy Store one night was hilarious it was a hilarious conversation didn't make any sense right there
Starting point is 02:54:24 Was a bunch of us in the hallway and some dude just goes i heard shaq's dick was small damn what the fuck and i was like compared to what like how is that even possible he's so big i mean compared to what compared to what there's nothing on him that's small but you want me to assume that his dick is? What the fuck? So that makes him less than you? Like, you won. Finally, I won.
Starting point is 02:54:50 I mean, girls and guys scar a little dick rumors all the time. Dudes might start it, so you can't get no bitches. And bitches start it because they're jealous. It's just the fact that a dude came up to you, and that was what he wanted to talk to you about. No, it wasn't that. It was a bunch of us around. It wasn't specifically me. But I knew Shaq that. It was a bunch of us around. It wasn't like specifically me. But I knew Shaq because I did Fear Factor with Shaq.
Starting point is 02:55:08 Right. Like Shaq co-hosted an episode of Fear Factor. Dude, I talked about it on stage. I was like, it was like a six-year-old hanging out with his dad. Like me standing next to Shaq. It's preposterous. It is preposterous that we're the same thing. He's so much bigger than me.
Starting point is 02:55:24 Dude, you got to see the video of his. Jamie, see if you can find it. Like, he, you know, he was a fan of Fear Factor. So it was like, he's the nicest guy, too. He's like easy to hang out with. He's very fun. Very fun. He's like a friendly, friendly guy.
Starting point is 02:55:37 But, you know, he would do the three, two, one, go. Like, he did the countdown. But like me and him standing next to each other is so hilarious because it's so stupid. Yeah, it's like twins, right? It's worse than that. Arnold is not as big in comparison to Danny DeVito. Yeah, Arnold is small compared to me. That Manute Bowl and Muggsy Bogues picture is like that.
Starting point is 02:56:00 Yeah, well, it's like, yeah, that's close. I'm taller than Arnold's most bigger. Yeah. He was just a big, yeah, that's close. I'm taller than Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah. He was just a big, wide guy for the day. Right. Dude, I think, you got to think about that guy. He's like 70 years old. That means he was born at a time where we were talking about earlier, where people didn't
Starting point is 02:56:14 have any food. Right. He fucked his housekeeper. That was before the podcast, right? That was. He did fuck his housekeeper, allegedly. He had a baby. Allegedly.
Starting point is 02:56:22 Allegedly. It might have been Jesus' intervention. Who knows? That little baby look like a Mexican Arnold Schwarzenegger. He does. And he allegedly. He had a baby. Allegedly. It might have been Jesus' intervention. Who knows? That little baby looked like a Mexican Arnold Schwarzenegger. He does. And he is. He is. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:31 Well, he's a handsome fella. Can't deny that. Yeah, definitely. I mean, you've read all those books about Schwarzenegger. He's inspirational. I mean, just the guy, the confidence he would exude. Did he get divorced after that? Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:56:42 Dude, I'm a giant fan. I love that guy. I met him once. He got divorced after that? Yeah. That he would get. Oh man, dude, I'm a giant fan. I love that guy. I met him once. He got divorced after that? Yeah, that was a wrap. Allegedly. It's like,
Starting point is 02:56:52 the guy's a savage. He's an Austrian savage. He's a big old giant man-tittied, pecked savage. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:57:02 That's preposterous. The size of him. He was still in the league at this point. I don't. Yeah, I mean. Because you guys were out in Orlando, so that's why he showed up. Yeah, I don't know what team he was for. Or Universal LA.
Starting point is 02:57:16 I'm sorry. Was he playing for Orlando? He was already on the Lakers. Net zero? Geez. Net zero. Back in the Disney, son. Back when I had hair.
Starting point is 02:57:23 Shit. Back in the old days. But it's just like the physical size difference. Like anybody the Disney, son. Back when I had hair. Shit. Back in the old days. But it's just like the physical size difference. Like, anybody thinks life is fair? Look at a picture of me standing next to Shaq. Yeah. Life ain't fair? That's not fair?
Starting point is 02:57:35 What the fuck is that? That's not fair. I did a whole joke about the White House, because there was a lady who was guarding the White House when a dude broke into it. It was on my 2016 Triggered Netflix special. They let this lady guard the White House when a dude broke into it. It was on my 2016 Triggered Netflix special. They let this lady guard the White House. She didn't even have a gun. She was at the front door. It was unlocked.
Starting point is 02:57:52 She was standing there. Just one lady. And this dude ran through. And I'm like, that is the dumbest fucking idea I've ever heard of. You're gonna have the literal place where the president sleeps. Right. Guarded by a lady and she doesn't have a gun and she's asleep and the door's not locked and the guy just runs through and did he get caught yeah
Starting point is 02:58:10 okay yeah he got caught but my wife she got caught by some dude who was like an he was an off-duty cop who just happened to be on the job and he just got and this guy was running through the hallway. What year was this? I talked about it in 2016. So it had to be like 2000, I would guess like 14 or 15. The dude that ran in, was he white or black? I don't know. He had to be white. I don't know, probably. Is this woman still
Starting point is 02:58:38 working there? Was she there on January 6th? I don't know. Just like everybody else. She keeps failing upward. Right. Oh, should have did it again. They all in here now. All right, fuck.
Starting point is 02:58:50 They here. Shit. All of them. But my joke was the idea that men and women aren't different. Of course we are. And there's no equality. That's why there's the Olympics. And I was like, if I wanted to make a run at the White House, you know, if I'm guarding the White House,
Starting point is 02:59:07 if I'm standing at the front door of the White House and Shaq decides to go to the White House, I go, guess what? I go, we're fucked. You're right. I'm like,
Starting point is 02:59:17 that dude's dick is where my face is. Like, I'm not going to make it. The White House is experiencing a Shaq attack. I'm not saving the world. Shaq attack. But it was like, standing next to him, I'm like, to make it. The White House is experiencing a shack attack. I'm not saving the world. A shack attack. But it was like standing next to him, like, there's no fairness. No.
Starting point is 02:59:30 There ain't no fairness. Seven foot what? There's no fairness. One, two, three, shoot. Yeah, we got to be nice to each other, but there ain't no fairness. It's like we get weird rolls of the dice, you know? You see some person that's born with birth defects or some person that's born confused or those people that i was talking about that were inbred on that white underbelly show that's they fucking fault no it's not well not being born it's not their fault but
Starting point is 02:59:54 it's their parents it's their parents off of fucking each other but their parents the level of inbred these people were at i bet their parents weren't even at fault i would i bet it was their parents parents like this is like multi-generational oh my god you got to see what it looks like it doesn't even look see pull it up jamie it's uh whole family away inbred family in the appalachias and it's soft white underbelly on youtube and they're down for this inbreed and they're just like this is cool Literally have no idea. I just I just watched them talk and they talked about their childhood and it's super disturbing man Yes, it's just again. It makes you realize that you like you don't I mean look at everybody in the fucking house We're talking about
Starting point is 03:00:44 But yeah You should be like, man, we retarded. Come on, man. We retarded as hell. We need to stop fucking each other. Come on, man. There's no guidance there. Right, right. Now, Jamie, give me some volume. Come on, man. Because see that guy with the red shirt? Come on, man. He learned how to communicate around dogs, so he only barks.
Starting point is 03:00:57 His name's Ray. He's like raised by dogs. I remember Ray. I photographed you, Ray. Do you remember? Years ago. What the fuck? You hear that?
Starting point is 03:01:04 Dude, back that up. Back that up. Do you remember? Years ago. What the fuck? You hear that? Dude. Your name is? Dude, back that up. Back that up. This guy was raised by dogs. So he communicates like a dog. Yo. Look, man. Ain't no crack involved in none of this.
Starting point is 03:01:16 What are your names? Watch this. It's I, Leroy, Tim. I'm sorry. Who's this? His name's Ray. Ray. I remember Ray. I photographed you, Ray. Do you remember?
Starting point is 03:01:28 Years ago. And your name is? Lorraine. Lorraine? These people make noises like a dog. Like this guy is communicating. That dog's even looking at him like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so who fucking who?
Starting point is 03:01:43 That's the problem. Keep it bred, these type of people. Freddie, that just got this show canceled. Right. We were doing so well. I thought we made progress. That's the problem. Everybody fucking, see?
Starting point is 03:01:56 Well, it's not their fault. It's people long, long, long before them. Right. Throw the whole family away. Somebody's got to break the chain. Well, this is like a possibility. Oh, no, nigga. Oh, no. Right. Throw the whole family away. Somebody's got to break the chain. Well, this is like a possibility. Oh, no, nigga. Oh, no.
Starting point is 03:02:07 Yeah. Like, imagine that there's video cameras. So someone's figured out how to film things and then upload it to the internet and you can watch it on your phone. And at the same time, someone's child has been raised by dogs where he can't talk and he's been inbred for so many generations that he can't communicate other than by barks so back that up and play that again and think about what's going on here play this right here
Starting point is 03:02:40 What's your favorite memory, Ray? Do you remember anything about your life? Hey, hey, hey, hey. Damn, Scooby-Doo. This guy can't talk. Scooby-Doo can talk. What, Ro Shaggy? You lost your other brother.
Starting point is 03:02:53 Shit. Dog. This is what's left of this guy. Like, he's just, like, chewing on bread, confused, and barking like a dog. So you lost your brother? Did they say how old he was? I don't know, Jamie, but I don't think he's going to pull out of this. Well, I didn't mean that. Jamie's like, maybe he's got time.
Starting point is 03:03:12 Maybe we're just being judgmental. I meant more like he was only 27 years old. I was going to say he was like 18. I don't know. But you have to look at this. This is the way I looked at it, at least, and go, hey, that could be any of us. We could have an unlucky roll of the dice, and you're born in that house. No, my family wasn't fucking.
Starting point is 03:03:31 That could have been me. But it could have been you if it wasn't your roll of the dice. That's a different kind of roll of the dice, Joe. I know, I know. But you're very fortunate that your situation. I'm not saying anything about— there's no way it could have happened with your family and you growing up. But imagine if you were born an inbred person in Appalachia.
Starting point is 03:03:54 We all could have been. When we emerged into this existence, we didn't have any control whatsoever on where we were going to be born. Imagine being this guy who can only bark like a dog. That's sad as fuck. It's sad as fuck. It's crazy, too. God damn it.
Starting point is 03:04:11 It's crazy that this is possible. Yeah. This also could be a guy. Imagine if this guy was raised right and he wasn't inbred. What if he was a guy who would talk to you about his kids or what his hobby is
Starting point is 03:04:23 and maybe he likes to make carpentry and shit. Who knows? He could be like a regular guy who's fun to talk to you about his kids or what his hobby is and maybe he likes to make carpentry and shit who knows? He could be like a regular guy was like fun to talk to but instead though because he's because he can hold he knows he has to hold his pants Yeah, but he probably can't afford a belt no I hear that I'm saying but like he still has the wherewithal to like he's still Putting pants on right you know like he's gonna hold these up and have pants on he don't get you know Right right just talk like he's gonna hold these up and have pants on he don't think he a doll is that freddy's green right right just talk like that right right okay right man i mean that is yeah imagine if that's your kid how do you eat with no teeth you don't eat well and they're not brushing their teeth probably right nobody's taught them probably so like that's why he's eating all bread day right? Yeah, cuz he can't yeah, I'm soft exactly no dentists
Starting point is 03:05:08 All right, no dentist as a child. No, he can't afford or something like that. We're looking at this We don't really I don't have any idea where they live how remove they are from everybody, right? I mean there's tribes like that You're right in like in the middles of continents that you know But this is way worse because it's like a very small group of people that live in this one place and they're like known to be inbred. So like it's within our lifetimes. Well, somebody in their family got to stop. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 03:05:35 It's called odd. It's called odd. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's an unincorporated community in Raleigh County, West Virginia. Oh, my God. The population is 779. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 03:05:50 That is the hills have eyes. Nigga, I'm straight. That's going to cost me $399 to get there. Imagine if you run out of gas there. Oh, no. Oh, my God. No cell phone service. You know, one of them has a yoga class.
Starting point is 03:06:04 Oh, gentle yoga. Gentle yoga. I'm talking about yoga with a bunch of motherfucking zombies. That sounds relaxing. Trying to calm everybody down. One of the best horror movies I ever saw was Bobcat Goldthwait. Bobcat made a Bigfoot movie. It's what is it called again?
Starting point is 03:06:23 Willow Creek. It's about these guys who go up there to film this area where they first filmed Bigfoot movie. Mm-hmm. It's what it's called again Willow Creek It's about these guys who go up there to film this area where they first filmed Bigfoot and they get attacked by Bigfoot It talks about like all these people that are missing in the woods every year that go hiking and vanish and this idea It's like the Bigfoot's killing people. Oh, but he did it like Blair Witch Project style. Okay, where it looks like, you know some POV. Yeah. Yeah So there's these people that are hanging out but it's fucking good man all right we look Rick I'm gonna check it out it's good it's good it's the absolute best Bigfoot movie ever made hands down 100% Bobcat nailed it and
Starting point is 03:06:57 Bobcat is like a true believer he and I've gone back and forth about Bigfoot on the podcast all I hear about white and forth about Bigfoot on the podcast. All I hear about is white people talking about Bigfoot just running around scaring people. Do we ever kill anybody? No, no. Not only do they never kill anybody in recorded history, but- Hold on. So this Bigfoot shit is a real thing? It was 100% a real animal.
Starting point is 03:07:19 What? Yes. What the fuck? It was called Gigantopithecus. And they found, during the 1920s, at an apothecary shop in China, an anthropologist found a primate tooth that was far too big. And he looked at it and he's like, what is this? This is bigger than a gorilla's. Like, where'd you get this?
Starting point is 03:07:38 And they guided him to the area where it was excavated. And they found a bunch of different bones and jaw bones that represented a bipedal hominid that was approximately 8 to 10 feet tall. Whoa. So this was a real animal that lived in Asia, and we know that humans walked across the Bering Strait. That's what it looked like. Okay.
Starting point is 03:07:58 So humans walked across the Bering Strait, they believe, the Bering landmass, into North America. And they think that short-faced bears and a bunch of other animals made it through that area too. But they think there's a remote possibility that this giant primate from Asia, at one point in time, thousands of years ago, interacted with people. And that people have this... Go back to that image again that you just had, Jamie. So not a bear. It's a primate. It's a primate
Starting point is 03:08:28 It's a giant primate that's in like that that give me that large so It's in a it's a giant primate in the orangutan family They believe right so that what they have is like a few jawbone pieces and a bunch of different things that So they verify that it's a real animal so that's why they have this chart here it's a gigantopithecus blackie is the official like latin name for it and this fucking thing is how big is it 3.5 meters okay bigger than two bucks so that's at least seven feet tall so it's somewhere around seven feet. No, 3.5 meters is nine feet, ten feet tall.
Starting point is 03:09:09 Ten feet tall. Damn. And so this giant thing was a real animal that existed that lived with people. So these bones that they found, I think they were like 100,000 years old. See if you can find that. Gigantopithecus bones aged. So they found them and they realized that these animals were living alongside with people. Did he fuck people?
Starting point is 03:09:33 It could have been. He did whatever the fuck he wanted. 10 foot tall. I mean, if he came upon your village, what are you going to do? Protect the rim. Yeah, what are you going to do? Are you going to stop him? Are you going to stop him from fucking you? They had a male Bigfoot. them you're gonna stop them from fucking you they had a male big foot they had to have a female big foot they definitely did
Starting point is 03:09:52 but so the idea is that this is what like uh was the thing that native americans talk about in their folklore because there's i think there's a hundred different native american names for sasquatch they have a bunch of different names for them which leads a lot of these people who study these cultures you go man that is very unusual it's very unusual that they talk about a thing that's not real over and over and over and over and over again and if you know that this used to be a real thing which died gigantopithecus definitely was. And then you know that these Native Americans, everything else, whether it's the buffalo, whether it's the pronghorn, the deer, all those things, the bear, they had them all mapped out.
Starting point is 03:10:35 They talked about all of it. They were very accurate about where they lived and how they traveled and how to hunt them. But then they had this Sasquatch thing. Well, what the fuck is that? Right. What is that? It's just extinct. But how do you know that that wasn't real? How do you know that 30,000 years ago, 40,000 years ago, these people had countered these things?
Starting point is 03:10:52 And imagine you're a fucking dude with a bow and arrow, and you're trying to feed your babies, and you're sneaking through the forest, and you see a 10-foot orangutan. Right. Just a giant thing looking at you you and you're like, yeah! And they just didn't make it. They didn't make it. Too tall. They killed them off. Well, they killed them off or maybe they didn't have enough food
Starting point is 03:11:13 or maybe there's predators. Who knows what the fuck it is? But if something dies for whatever reason, if something dies off, like a woolly mammoth, they're not here anymore. You gotta think about their lifespan too, right? Because even tall humans, right? Like their lifespan is shorter, right? Yes, and also like the amount of food they must need. If you're ten feet tall the amount of fucking food you must need Like a two-year lifespan or something. Oh my god
Starting point is 03:11:36 And if you don't figure out weapons before the people do and they have catapults and shit Yeah, I mean who knows with all that David and Goliath shit, who knows? But only like a few bones. Who knows? Not a lot of bones, huh? Who knows if David and Goliath. Oh, the David and Goliath. Oh, bro.
Starting point is 03:11:51 That was about a big foot. We talked about this a couple weeks ago with David and Goliath. Which is? About how that's genocide, what David did. He fought this big dude one, and they said, all right, now kill all of them. Oh, is that what he did? Yeah. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 03:12:02 After he killed Goliath, killed everybody? Yeah. Killed all the big niggas. No, it was all of them. Oh, is that what he did? Wait a minute. After he killed Goliath, killed everybody? Yeah. Killed all the big niggas. No, it was that whole people. Yeah. Yeah, that is open genocide, the David Goliath story. Well, that's unfortunate and not productive to the narrative. Right.
Starting point is 03:12:16 And I don't want to talk about King David that way. I don't want to get attacked by the media. Why don't you just leave that part of the story out? I'm going to leave it out. And David killed Goliath, which is good, right? Right. But we can't have a, which is good, right? Right. But we can't have a conversation because, you know. But, yeah.
Starting point is 03:12:29 I forget what the, yeah. What was Goliath a part of? What he was a sling? Goliath was like a giant and he killed him with a rock and a sling. He was part of a people. I forget what they're called, those people. I mean. I don't even think they had slingshots.
Starting point is 03:12:41 They had a sling. Right. The sling was like you had two strings. You had two strings in the pouch, and you would swing it, swing it, swing it, and you let it go. Yeah, it's a big rock at this guy's face. This guy cracked and crushed his skull. Allegedly. Allegedly.
Starting point is 03:12:56 Allegedly. These are like the most secondhand stories ever, right? Right. Hey, man. How much would you give to find out what Adam and Eve was really all about? Like, what happened? What is that story? Some people fucked in the jungle.
Starting point is 03:13:09 And that's it. But what about the snake and the apple? Right. All that shit is in the jungle. It's apples. Right, but why shouldn't she eat the fruit? Is he just controlling? Was Adam just like a super controlling boyfriend?
Starting point is 03:13:22 Throw her all under the bus. Totally. Throw her all under the bus Totally Throw her all under the bus I know like everybody knows about it to this day I just discredited a woman It's the first story of the bible She's the whole reason why we're fucked Yeah this lady
Starting point is 03:13:36 I mean like by the way after that That's all patriarchy sorry ladies like yeah You're the reason Right it wasn't the dude's problem That everything went sideways It was Eve's problem. She fucked around and listened to the snake and ate the apple. Now we're doomed forever.
Starting point is 03:13:49 Right. Adam didn't do anything. He was perfect. Adam was jacking off in front of the computer. Yeah. He's busy trying to get his OnlyFans up. Adam trying to get his OnlyFans up. You know what the real problem is going to be, gentlemen?
Starting point is 03:14:04 When you can put a headset on And you can have sex With whoever you want Right like Demolition Man Yeah Yeah You can do that You could put a headset on
Starting point is 03:14:12 Oh you can Oculus With the Oculus You could have sex with the Hulk Damn The Hulk Whatever you want Whatever you want
Starting point is 03:14:18 Wonder Woman Whatever you want Whatever your taste is Chewbacca Who do you wanna fuck That's sick You wanna fuck Orca Right or like a cartoon Right Yeah you can do whatever you want? Whatever your taste is. Chewbacca? Who do you want to fuck? That's sick. You want to fuck Orca? Right, or like a cartoon, right?
Starting point is 03:14:28 Yeah, you can do whatever you want. There's going to be a time where you can have an experience that's real similar to a real-life experience like this, where you can touch metal and touch tables and wood, and it's going to be you can just put a headphone on it and achieve it. Isn't that what the metaverse is supposed to be? Metaverse. Eventually. If it's not like the Mark Zuckerberg version of it,
Starting point is 03:14:47 which is kind of interesting, it's something else. It'll be like that Matrix version. Someone's going to figure out something where they're going to have a way of making you experience something that's not real, but feels as real as anything you've ever experienced. Well, that one lady got raped in the metaverse. Right. Is that real? That wasn't real? That wasn't that one lady got raped in the middle of her. Right.
Starting point is 03:15:05 That's not real. That wasn't real? That wasn't real. I'm right. We read it. Who knows? Did that happen, Jamie? Did that happen?
Starting point is 03:15:11 It happened, but yeah, it's a story. That's what she said. Then they put on things that like, there's like a barrier. Now you can't get close to people or something. Bitch, how do you feel it? What do you feel? Well, you know what? Sometimes people need to learn their lessons.
Starting point is 03:15:23 Ain't no laws in the metaverse. Society lessons. Ain't no laws in the metaverse. Society progresses. Ain't no laws in the metaverse. Right. Is it okay? Like, imagine if there's no pain in the metaverse, right, and you're only experiencing it in your mind. You put headsets on. Should you be allowed to have sword fights?
Starting point is 03:15:38 Listen, I mean, if I see a nigga I don't like in the metaverse, I'm killing you with that motherfucker. So it's basically, it's great that bar. So the metaverse is like'm killing you with that motherfucker. So it's basically, it's great that more. So the metaverse is like, sexual harassment in the, women alleges rape in virtual world. What the fuck? Wow. How is that even possible?
Starting point is 03:15:56 So yeah, the metaverse is basically like New Delhi. She says, within 60 seconds of joining, she said, I was verbally and sexually harassed, three to four male avatars with male voices essentially, but virtually gang raped my avatar. She details watching her avatar get sexually assaulted by a
Starting point is 03:16:14 handful of male avatars who took photos and sent her comments like, don't pretend you didn't love it. Whoa. We entered into a new discussion oh my god digital yeah it's sexual assault so is it illegal to suck sexual assault a person in the metaverse is it laws in the metaverse yet i mean they're gonna make them yeah they're gonna make them after something like
Starting point is 03:16:40 that but it's somebody's voice actually doing it right so it's this dude he's getting this carnal pleasure from being like this isn't me it's my you know this doing it, right? So it's this dude, he's getting this carnal pleasure from being like, this isn't me, this is my avatar, but this is what he wants to do as his avatar, right? Like you're doing Grand Theft Auto. They should be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do in the back. I think there's also like people want to do what they're not supposed to do. Let them do it there. If it's not really happening, yeah, what's not really happening, no one's really getting touched.
Starting point is 03:17:04 Right. They feel like it's okay. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But if you're- Get out of the game, bitch. Push pause.
Starting point is 03:17:10 If you're a dude- You don't want to hear that going in there, yeah. If you're a dude and you get on the metaverse and some other giant dude throws you to the ground and starts fucking your mouth- Exactly. You're not going to enjoy that. Exactly, bro. You're going to be like, hey! I got raped in the metaverse. And you got some big, giant dude.
Starting point is 03:17:26 Turn it off, man. Who just shack-sized palms the back of your head and starts fucking your mouth. What are you going to do? I'm throwing my hands at the fuck off. Bigfoot's raping me. I'm breaking the Oculus. You got to realize the first versions of the metaverse are going to be like Pong. Did you ever play Pong?
Starting point is 03:17:43 I'm older than you guys. I heard. When I was a kid. I know what it is. When I was a little kid, that's when Pong came was a little kid that's when pong came boop boop boop boop boop boop boop that was the first game it was the wildest shit you can control something that's on your tv but it got way way way way way way way way way better and that's the same thing that's gonna happen with this shit right exactly eventually it's gonna get to a place where some giant dudes gonna hold you down and fuck your mouth And you're gonna be like what the hell I don't want to be in this metaverse no more right?
Starting point is 03:18:15 Some metaverse counseling after this imagine if you had a metaverse where you you were on a beach and you were waiting on the beach Watching a group of Vikings pull their boats up to the shore and you were waiting on the beach watching a group of Vikings pull their boats up to the shore and you're like fuck right flaming arrows start flying through the air as they reach the shore and you realize that they're gonna rape and kill everybody right that was a reality of history in the middle you're trapped in the metaverse because you find it survive and there's a bunch of dudes saying like you know you love it I mean imagine like a bunch of dudes like who make their avatars kkk and be like oh come here you know like start start black dragging you or start lynching in the metaverse it's the metaverse
Starting point is 03:18:51 though i don't give a fuck see but the thing is but if the metaverse becomes more compelling than the regular world and you spend most of your time there what is real life that's here's the question if you have 24 hours in real life but you spend 15 of it in the metaverse isn't that more real life than real life if all you do the you'll get a couple of things done and you go to sleep for the rest of the time but if life becomes so much more interesting in this digital world right people are gonna try it see we might be in the motherfucking metaverse right now that's what we like that's true we might be i think motherfucking metaverse right now. That's true. We might be. I think you're right, though.
Starting point is 03:19:27 I think, yeah. You know, my niece, his kids, your kids, kind of a thing. They're going to grow up in that, like, what, the 2040s, 2050s, if we're still around. Or there's some kind of a war that kills the power grid. Either one of those things is real. Like, if you learn anything from this whole Ukraine situation, learn it can happen right learn that a war is a real possibility And that's the terrifying all this jargon people like to pretend they know what the fuck is going on and what's important What's more that Freddy?
Starting point is 03:19:55 All these people that pretend they know what the fuck is going on they don't nobody does this is kind of chaotic In terms of like what's gonna happen I mean yeah you know where where this is gonna go fucking chaotic man we need to realize that this can happen yeah now we know we know we know all this is not just talk no this isn't just talk and there's a lot of like just crazy talk people talk about foreign policy and what's important. And then once you watch missiles hit apartment buildings, you're like, holy shit.
Starting point is 03:20:29 But it's been happening for years, though, right? I mean, we send missiles and drones over there, too. Right. What's that graph? Did we find that graph, Jamie, of all the most recent? Yeah, I'm just, with that graph looking into that. It's bullshit? It might be. God damn it.
Starting point is 03:20:46 I want to believe. He wants to not be the misinformation king. Where it's coming from might be propaganda. I'm the misinformation king, but I'm uncredible. Listen to me. Don't listen to me. That's what you should listen. If you want to listen to me, don't listen to me.
Starting point is 03:21:00 I'm not your guy to be listened to. If you want to listen to the people I talk to, please do. But from my personal perspective, I'm not a reliable source of listening to if you want to listen to the people I talk to please do but from my personal perspective I'm not a reliable source of information. I don't trust me. Why the fuck should you I don't trust me for information? Fucking babble I babble for thousands of hours. I don't know what the fuck I'm saying Oh, yeah, I just like his podcast. You know I Just want I genuinely want everybody to do better. Yes.
Starting point is 03:21:27 100% genuinely. All people I meet. I want us to get along. I like parties. I like to see friends and hug them. I saw you two guys today. I hugged you. I like that.
Starting point is 03:21:39 Report the good shit this cat does. I like fun. There's some things you've done for me. I mean, we can't talk about it on air, and I won't give CNN the satisfaction, but, like, yo, talk about the good shit he does. You know what I mean? Like, you know, he's not a racist. I'm here.
Starting point is 03:21:51 The cat has fucking blessed me financially so many times by just having me on the show or bigging up the Rose Battle. I mean, like, he does countless things. The shit you did in Australia nobody talks about. You know what I mean? One of the things I did when I got canceled is I started doing mushrooms. I did mushrooms every day for, for like three or four days and one thing the mushrooms told me one time said you're not a bad person But you left a bad impression
Starting point is 03:22:13 And I was like whoa That's a wild statement. Yeah, when you get state like this times when I do mushrooms. I get these like little I Get these little moments like a man. Am I just imagining I'm talking to something? Or is something really talking to me? What is this? Like, what is this? Is this like my own imagination trying to sort out my existence? We call that the Jiminy Cricket, right?
Starting point is 03:22:39 Niggity Cricket. Niggity Cricket. That's it. That's hilarious. Exactly. That's it. That's hilarious. Exactly. That's so funny. Yeah, but you also, I mean, listen, the God slur is tough. Yeah, it's rough.
Starting point is 03:22:53 The God of all slurs is the tough one. It's the rough one. Yeah. Because other ones, I mean, like, you know, there's like with the C word, you know, there's so many factions of that word, right, in the English language, you know. And even if you say, yeah, in the English language, you know. And even if you say, yeah, cunt. Cocaine? Cunt.
Starting point is 03:23:08 Yeah, there's a bunch of great bits about that word, too. You know, the thing is, like, I can't wait, and I've said this on stage, too, that I can't wait until we can read minds. Because then, like, what we're trying to do is, like, interpret a very specific and terrible meaning for anything that a person says. But whether it's, you know, whatever the slur is, whether it's cunt or the N word or the F word or whatever. But what words are supposed to be is a person conveying their intent. Word. So if there comes a time where we can read each other's minds, we can understand how you really feel. We're basically going on like weird roadside maps. read each other's minds. We can understand how you really feel.
Starting point is 03:23:49 We're basically going on weird roadside maps. We're not going on 100% understanding of how a person is trying to communicate and why and where they're coming from. So we base it on words, which is perfect. It's beautiful. It's amazing. It's eloquent. It's the best way we have to communicate. I'm not knocking it.
Starting point is 03:24:03 But what I'm saying is there's going to come a time in our lifetime where we don't have to do that anymore, where we're going to be able to communicate with each other just by virtue of your intent and how you feel. And instead of being wrapped up in different languages and sounds people make, like Germans make a very different sound than Koreans who make a very different sound than Brazilians. Everybody's got their own way the sound the flavor but all they're trying to do is let you know how they think that's all i'm trying to do right now too and one of the benefits that i have of all this crazy shit going on is i have a podcast yeah and then people have heard me talk so many fucking times they kind of understand who i am word yeah we know you are a nigga
Starting point is 03:24:45 when stylebender said that at a press conference i legitimately teared up i legitimately teared up because i love that dude he said that i was like god damn it he's amazing you can feel man you know what as a as a black man in america i could feel the energy of racism when anybody i go around i kind of know if you were racist. I could just spend five minutes with you and be like, oh, yeah, this motherfucker don't like me either because I'm black or I could be, you know, have more money than him. It could be something like that. But I could feel the energy from, like, people who, you know, just how you, you know, how you talk to things you say. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:25:22 I know. And, you know, we all got our own prejudices, you know what I'm saying, and shit that we don't understand about each other's culture, man. So, I mean, that just comes with just being different, man. But racist, I can smell that. I can feel that. I know when a motherfucker is like, yeah, I don't fuck with you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:25:40 It's obvious. It stands out. Let's talk about the real heroes. Let's talk about interracial, interracial porn male talent. Right. You're Mr. Marcus. There's Lex and the Steel. We don't say it enough during Black History Month how fucking legendary these guys are.
Starting point is 03:26:00 Could you imagine in the Jim Crow era, there's niggas fucking white women on camera. On camera. Have you ever seen Santino's bit about it? Oh, yeah. They always keep their sneakers on. But they keep, that means they have to take the pants off and put the shoes back on. That is a fucking hilarious bit. I sent you that one. Yeah, that bit about Santino.
Starting point is 03:26:13 That is a hilarious bit. Yeah. Oh, my God, that's a good bit. But, yeah. Santino is so fucking funny. I just love those cats. Yeah, man. It's an interesting time for people to figure out what the fuck is important
Starting point is 03:26:26 to be upset about what not at this day and age like how can you hate black people how can you hate how can you hate gay people right anybody anybody specifically for any reason yeah nobody man like what the fuck like but the problem is moses you can attest to this, one of our problems as comedians is the fun is in talking shit. Exactly. And the fun is in trying to push a boundary or say something you think might be funny, and you've got like a split second to press the green light. Right.
Starting point is 03:26:58 And you're like, let's run with this. Right. Let's see how this goes. That's the game. And when you're on stage That's the number one thing Like the The mistakes that you make on stage You go down a road
Starting point is 03:27:08 And you're like Oh my god This is hate speech Can't believe I'm even here It's like you don't mean You're just trying to You're trying to remove yourself From the equation
Starting point is 03:27:16 Long enough to find a path That's funny Yeah But along the way You're gonna say some Ridiculous shit That you probably Would rather have edited you'd
Starting point is 03:27:26 rather have started from scratch that was some racist shit right there right that was definitely it he felt that you could feel it he was trying to make them feel bad and a woman called I was working the phones I may have said the story actually on this podcast But uh I did a bit and then as race related obviously black woman calls next day. I'm working the phone She's just like I said to let you know there's a comedian you guys have named Brian Moses, and he was doing a joke And it was about black people and the black people weren't really laughing
Starting point is 03:27:58 But the whites are kind of laughing a little bit, and I just want to let you know like he can start a race right in your club I was like I'm black and I did the joke I was like what are we talking about just because it had to do with you know it was about a but you know what's here's what's fascinating about this whole conversation is that the socially it balances out where people understand what you can and can't talk about. And that's the recognition of the history of racism in this country is that a person like me can't say the N word.
Starting point is 03:28:34 It's impossible. You can't say it. You can't say it anymore. If you say it, people are going to get furious at you, right? It's an emotional thing. Well, why is that? It's only possible if there's a disproportionate history. Like if there was a word, it doesn't make any sense if there's not a disproportionate history.
Starting point is 03:28:53 Like this is a thing that I think we all have to like recognize, all of us. It's like there's an imbalance that hasn't been rectified. Absolutely. Right. Absolutely. People get scared of that word reparations. Like, what does that mean? This is what it, here's what everybody has to do.
Starting point is 03:29:10 You have to find all the spots that got fucked by the Civil War and by slavery. You got to fix that. Right. You got to fix that shit. Well, the problem is they already gave reparations. Remember that? I mean, like, they gave all the slave owners the money. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:29:22 Oh, the property. Because they lost the property. Yeah, exactly. Nobody says that. Right. That's a real thing. I mean, like, what gave all the slave owners the money. Yeah. Oh, that's the opposite. Because they lost the property. Yeah, exactly. Nobody says that. Right. That's a real thing. They definitely did that. Yeah, they gave the slave owners because they lost all their property.
Starting point is 03:29:31 Yes, they reimbursed them. I don't know if it was like- They called reparations. Yeah. If you gave black people, like, a tax break, like, we ain't got to pay taxes. That's what I'm saying. For 20 years. We shouldn't have to pay taxes at all.
Starting point is 03:29:44 We shouldn't have to pay taxes. We should get free property. You know what I'm saying, for 20 years. We shouldn't have to pay taxes at all. We shouldn't have to pay taxes. We should get free property. You know what I'm saying? Free tuition. They gave Native Americans casinos. I mean, you got to economically help us catch up. You know what I'm saying? Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 03:29:55 And that's the problem with it is economics. We don't control anything. We don't control property. We don't control the food coming in our community. We don't control our community. Well, whenever you have a spot that's stuck, whenever you have a spot that's socially compromised, financially compromised, meaning socially compromised, meaning there's gang violence and drug abuse and there's a lot of stuff around them. And it's been like that for decades. If they don't step in, then that's bad management.
Starting point is 03:30:22 But you could dwindle that down if niggas had farms and if niggas had factories and things where we generated our own things. We got to go to a white man for every fucking thing. We can't, you know what I'm saying? We have more black millionaires than we've ever had in the history of black people. We have the most educated people now in the history of black people.
Starting point is 03:30:40 So I'm saying, why aren't we doing that now? Because they were doing that back with the Black Panthers and everybody like that. So we could could be doing that now we could be buying property in our neighborhoods we could we could be turning this shit around yeah it's not something that's instantaneously solved facts yeah but it is something that people are more and more aware of and they they just all the communication lets people like think about it more and more and then we come to a better place than we were a week ago a year ago whatever and that's where we are with like basically every cultural issue that's why you can watch that video of al jolson from 100 years ago and you can't even
Starting point is 03:31:14 believe it's real because we're making progress we're making progress as human beings and the only way the only thing that stops that progress is anything that stops communication so when you stop communication you stop discussion you stop communication, you stop discussion. You stop people from trying to figure out what's good and what's bad and what makes people feel bad and why it does that. Like why is this word more potent than that word? Discussion. It's fucking gigantically important. That's why it's terrifying that there's people in this day and age that want to stop discussion.
Starting point is 03:31:46 They shouldn't stop discussion. You should have your own response to whatever that discussion is. Talk about it. Disagree. Robustly. Disagree. But don't stop discussion. Don't stop Freddie Gibbs from fucking up the Bill Maher podcast because you know he did.
Starting point is 03:32:01 You know he showed up stoned as fuck, guns blazing, talking about shooting crackheads. Oh, yeah. Come on, of course. Me and Bill was definitely talking about fucking some hoes. Shout out to my boy Bill. Bro, Freddie, when you did this podcast and you were talking about, oh, that's when I shot this crackhead.
Starting point is 03:32:18 I was like... Yeah, man. I was like, I think he can get away with it. Yeah, that motherfucker dead anyway. You're dead, bitch. Well, like, I think he can get away with it. Yeah, that motherfucker dead anyway, so he's out of here. You're dead, bitch. Well, and then there's that. I ain't had nothing to do with that, though. I don't know. He just showed up somewhere.
Starting point is 03:32:34 Good for you. Congratulations. Yeah, man. I'm a rapper slash actor, entertainer. Podcaster. Podcaster. When does that happen? That's coming soon, man.
Starting point is 03:32:43 I got to retire from rap first, though, man. Listen, you don't have to retire from rap to do podcasts. It's not like it's a union endeavor. I just want a podcast. I don't want to rap while I'm doing it. You can listen, bro. You don't have to make a decision. I want to just do that.
Starting point is 03:32:57 I don't even want to rap. Well, Freddie. While I'm doing that. I got like an album, maybe an album or two left, and I'm out of this shit. I'm good. I'm good. I left my mark in the rap game. I did like an album, maybe album or two left and I'm out of this shit. I'm good. I'm good. I left my mark in the rap game. I did what needed to be done. If it's a rap hall of
Starting point is 03:33:10 fame, I'm going to go to that bitch so I ain't worried about shit. Well, as a person who does podcasts with you, I've done a couple of them now. You'd be great at it, man. I'm going to do it. That's my next move. You're the most authentic dude I think I've ever met. You're 100% authentic.
Starting point is 03:33:27 That's the next move. You are yourself all the time. At all times. But this is what's complicated about people when they try to go into show business and get attention. It's very difficult to be yourself all the time. Right. Because there's consequences. Definitely.
Starting point is 03:33:42 His manager calls him Brick James. Brick James. Brick James. Brick James. That's hilarious. I mean, because he's, yeah, he's a wild dude. But this is my position, that people like you are important. I think those fucking rule pushers, those boundary pushers, we're very important. For what I like, I like wild shit.
Starting point is 03:34:07 Yeah, me too. I like doing podcasts with people like you. We take wild shit. I'm like, oh my God. And I just have to clutch my pearls. I go, oh my God, Freddie. How they gonna cut this compilation? Come on, man.
Starting point is 03:34:20 We do the Freddie Gibbs podcast. It's gonna be crazy, man. You know what I'm saying? But we geared up for that. It's gonna be real dope, man what I'm saying but uh you know we gearing up for that it's gonna be real dope man I can't wait and also when Moses contacted me about
Starting point is 03:34:28 doing a podcast with you I'm like oh my god this is perfect two different dudes to do a podcast with after my shit shows down we have a stripper pole and hoes
Starting point is 03:34:36 it's gonna be lit man last day of the white guilt month I said we gots to do it hard yeah for sure um so uh let's get out of here and go check out my club.
Starting point is 03:34:46 Let's do it. Check out my club and then kill Tony tonight. I want to go float in that chamber you got. I want to go float. 100%. Can we put holes in there? I don't think so. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 03:34:55 I don't think that's wise. Because hoes is bound to drizzle. No, no one drowns. You float. It's only 11 inches of water. But it is contrary to the idea of the experiment. Okay. Brian Moses, Roast Battle is one of the most important.
Starting point is 03:35:10 There's two important shows in live stand-up comedy in the United States today. One of them is Roast Battle. The other one is Kill Tony. I firmly believe that one-two punch is critical for the development of up-and-coming talent. They learn how to fuck with each other and they learn how to take a joke and learn how to be like a little bit selfless with it and roast battle and then on kill tony they learn how to do one minute under high pressure in front of the whole fucking world yeah and both of them are super critical thank you bro you're the man
Starting point is 03:35:39 and like i said brother when i when i came back in 2014 your show was one of the main reasons why I came back. Because I went back there and I saw that. And I remember going, wow, this is so different. This is so, like, creative and wild. And it was like this energetic sort of new thing where I could feel it when I went into that belly room. And I was like, oh, my goodness. Like, this is exciting. I was, like, clapping.
Starting point is 03:36:04 But it was also everybody was smiling. Like, the energy exciting. I was like clapping. Yeah. But it was also, everybody was smiling. Like, the energy in the room was infectious. Right? The whole audience. There's a lot of love in there. People come in there. I remember, was it Ian something? But he said it was like, I came in here thinking it was going to be like hateful and ugh, you
Starting point is 03:36:18 know, because that's not my style. But there's so much love in here. So much love. Yeah. There's so much love. Ian Carmel. Sorry, Ian. You can take a good shot to the dick.
Starting point is 03:36:27 You can take a good one. You can take a good one if you're one of the people that gets roasted. Yeah. You can take a good shot to the dick. Yeah. We just did a roast battle underground at this place called Madam Siam in L.A., and it looks like a fucking underground fight club. Well, my brother, when my club opens up here, you have 100% carte blanche.
Starting point is 03:36:45 Whenever you want to do roast battle, want to do it once a week, once a month, it's in. It's done. Let's do it. We got two rooms. We're doing it. Once a fucking month.
Starting point is 03:36:55 That's it. Austin. Freddie Gibbs podcast, ladies and gentlemen. Coming soon, bitch. Available where? On the nigga network in the nigga verse. In, in, in? Good night, everybody.

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