The Joe Rogan Experience - #180 - Joey Diaz, Eddie Bravo, Denny Prokopos

Episode Date: January 31, 2012

Joe sits down with Joey Diaz, Eddie Bravo, and Denny Prokopos. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Thank God men like Nick Diaz exist. This weekend, Nick Diaz and Carlos Conde. Thank God those guys exist. Thank God those guys exist and thank God those guys have built themselves up to the point where this is one of those matches where five fucking rounds, man, you can't wait. You're going to be palm sweaty, rubbing your hands together before that bitch.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I don't know who's going to be the referee for this. I don't know who it is. But before that one person looks at the blue corner and looks at the red corner and then says, fight, that shit is going to be crazy. And poor Carlos Condor, he's been training for eight years for the fucking fight. Yeah, perfect. Eight years he's been fucking training. Every two months they change opponents.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Perfect. He's had 19 fucking opponents, like Batman in season one. It's really, for him, I think it's perfect. Because he's so prepared. No, he's ready. He's ready to rock. It's the perfect time for him. 160 plus 130.
Starting point is 00:00:57 The line is not that bad. It's minus 160. You would be crazy to pick a favorite in this fight. I think you'd be crazy. I think that this is one of those who the fuck knows what's going to happen fights. This could be, who knows? It's going to be amazing. It's going to be amazing.
Starting point is 00:01:10 For Doom Roy Nelson, too. Yeah, for Doom Roy Nelson, too. I forgot all about that. Oh, how about Hennen Barau and Scott Jorgensen? That's right. Holy shit. That Hennen Barau dude, he's the dark horse of the pound for pound division because he's not a champion yet, but he might be one of the top pound for pound guys. He's right up there with Aldo. He's the dark horse of the pound for pound division because he's not a champion yet, but he might be one of the top pound
Starting point is 00:01:25 for pound guys. He's right up there with Aldo. He's a beast. Did you see his last fight with Brad Pickett? He hit homeboy with a knee to the face with no jump. Just fucking leaped up with his knee. You know, instead of that thing where they lift the front leg and then they come up with the right leg, they'll start with the
Starting point is 00:01:41 left leg and then they use it as force to kick up with the right leg. Some of these badass Brazilians, like Anderson can do it too, where they just up with the right leg they'll start with the left leg and then they use it as force to kick up with the right leg some of these badass brazilians like anderson can do it too where they just fly through the fucking air with one knee and baral just lifted that knee up and crack caught caught brad pickett in the chin i mean he's a beast dude and his jujitsu is fucking sick you know as soon as brad pickett like and he saw a position, he jumped on that back so quick, man. It was a thing of beauty, man. I saw the UFC special on Nick Diaz, Carlos Condit. Which one?
Starting point is 00:02:13 Episode one? Shit, I don't know. Episode two, I don't know if it's aired yet. Is it aired yet? Well, the one where they have Nick Diaz as, like, kindergarten teacher. Yeah, isn't that funny? Damn, she remembered Nick, right?. Yeah. Damn. She remembered Nick. Of course she did.
Starting point is 00:02:26 She remembered Nick. And this is I learned a lot about Nick and I come up with a hypothesis. You know before when in the early days
Starting point is 00:02:35 if you were a black belt in jujitsu shit you had a shot at the title. And then it became if you were an Olympic wrestler damn you have a shot at the title. Now it's obvious.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Now it's becoming more like all other sports. Like, if you didn't wrestle, do jujitsu, and worked on your striking since day one as a kid, because there's so many kids doing that, all three now, it's like you're not going to have a shot in the very near future. And I think there's one more factor, and that's the Nick Diaz factor. Obviously, he doesn't like cameras. He's said it a million times. He doesn't like to talk in front of cameras. He's not, you know, he's not into it, and maybe he's shy in front of the camera or whatever,
Starting point is 00:03:19 and his teacher was even saying that he wasn't the most, you know, vocal guy, and he had trouble expressing himself and all that shit. And when he gets in that cage and that door slams shut and the crowd is roaring, there's no more fucking talking. He just comes alive. He looks at his opponent. He's like, nobody could fucking hear you.
Starting point is 00:03:41 You could be the most articulate, funny, charismatic guy on the fucking planet. But you know what? I fucking run all day, swim all day, do box. I got a crazy chin. I'm going to fucking kill this motherfucker. That's like a that's an X factor right there. If you didn't like you have to look for that, I think, in the future in fighters. Like, do they have that switch where when they fucking get in that cage it's just it really is like
Starting point is 00:04:08 life or death his is a very different thing than anybody else's first of all his approach to it is so different than anybody else's in that he does like endurance training like long distance marathon type training and basically forces these guys to try to keep up with him I mean he basically puts them into an endurance contest and tries to get him to keep up with him. I mean, he basically puts them into an endurance contest and tries to get them to keep up with him. That's why he does a lot of juking and a lot of getting in their face. All that stuff tenses you up, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:32 All those punches that he throws at 50%, 60%, all those tighten you up. You know, one of the things that Frank Shamrock said was that when Nick Diaz was punching him, he hits you so often you can't breathe. You don't know when to breathe. You can't relax because you never get to relax because they just keep coming, which is just different you just he just fights in a different way i think the way he does it is brilliant it's so brilliant because no one else did it before him no one else figured out that that way to fight no one else really like
Starting point is 00:04:57 would not just have great skills but have ridiculous world-class endurance like swim from alcatraz endurance. That's nutty shit, man. They said they went through a countdown. He sparred some ridiculous amount of rounds. Then he ran five miles, and then he swam for an hour and a half. That was just one day. And he just does that all day.
Starting point is 00:05:17 He does it all the time. Maybe he has some kind of condition where he's obsessed with exercise. I don't know. I mean, I think he loves it For sure I mean When he was a kid He said that
Starting point is 00:05:27 You know I think he said It was One of the countdown shows His I think it was his uncle Or someone Was like
Starting point is 00:05:33 A track coach Yeah And he used to take him His grandfather Danny Propokos But that's the other thing too Here's the other thing too With him
Starting point is 00:05:41 You know what He doesn't like Fucking talking You smoke a joint What do you feel like doing Go for a fucking run See what happens what? He doesn't like fucking talking. You smoke a joint. What do you feel like doing? Go for a fucking run. See what happens to your head. It feels great.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It feels great. I smoke a joint and I go to fucking swim fit for an hour. You feel like fucking Hercules when you come out. And that's his world. That's his fucking world. That's what his endurance comes from. From going, I don't want to hang out with these dumb fucks because I might stab somebody.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I'll just smoke a joint and run until the fucking highway is off. And he runs for fucking two hours. When I lived in Boulder. I'll just smoke a joint and run until that fucking high wears off. And he runs for fucking two hours. When I lived in Boulder, I used to smoke and run, and the high when you finish fucking running is a complete different dimension. Yeah, even when you smoke and lift, man, you feel all your muscle tissue. Like when you're
Starting point is 00:06:17 pressing weights, you feel it. You feel your whole body moving. Swiping and rolling. They say, well, not just that, yoga. Smoking and doing yoga. Oh, an edible? That's the way you're supposed to do it. It is edibles. I used to eat an edible.
Starting point is 00:06:30 You're supposed to eat hash. I used to take a little piece of banana bread or a little hash cookie. I'd take it at 7 in the morning and go to 8.30 yoga. You know what my head is at at 8.30? And the bitch is smoking. Yeah. And I would just go into it little by little, and it's amazing. It's fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:06:45 When you walk out of there, you don't know what hit you. You really don't. So that's what my thing is with him. That he just, you know what? He's not the type of guy that's going to go to a club or whatever. What would you do? Smoke a joint and go for a fucking run. He's the last guy I'd want to fight.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Because think about it. Compare him to GSP and even Jon Jones and Anderson Silva. What he has that they don't have, maybe they will develop it, is he will stand right in front of you and exchange with you. And he's down to go to war right in front of you. I mean, not very, I mean, GSP ain't gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:07:19 John Jones probably won't even do that. And if you decide to take him down, he'll fuck you up on the ground too. His jujitsu's amazing. It's like, what the fuck? like what's a cyborg fight what the fuck are you gonna do example yeah what are you gonna do with nick diaz he was killing what are you gonna do with him cyborg he was killing cyborg standing up so cyborg took him down and whoop arm bar yeah within 30 seconds he had him in an arm bar yeah i mean gsp might be able to take him down yeah what is he gonna do he's not gonna pass his guard yeah he's not going to pass Nick Diaz's guard.
Starting point is 00:07:46 It's not going to happen. He doesn't get tired when you're on top of him either. You know, a lot of dudes, man, you put them on their back and they just get exhausted. They get demoralized. They get exhausted. Unless we see his chin fall apart, man, I can't see him losing. Well, you know, that can happen to some fighters when they take beatings. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:03 It can happen. At a certain time. We've seen it happen over and over. You know, Vanderlei and so many guys, Chuck, eventually. They had iron chins. Yeah. And they would come, even if they got robbed. Well, Vanderlei never had an iron chin.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Vanderlei got dropped a lot. Sakuraba dropped him. A lot of people dropped him. Henderson had him really badly hurt. But his chin is a lot worse now. It's a lot worse. Arguably. Arguably. Arguably. But, you know, he was already just this dude who ran face for first you know he did one of the things that
Starting point is 00:08:30 made Vanderlei great was how reckless he was you know he didn't give a fuck he would charge at you literally like a wild dog you know he'd be like a pit bull just running at you but that style gets you hurt you know that style I mean he's the this is not it's not a coincidence that he's the only guy of his era that had to have facial reconstruction so he could breathe you know his nose was flattened smashed flattened if you go and look at his face from when he first entered into pride and then his face in his first UFC fight with Chuck he's a completely different person you wouldn't even recognize him he was a handsome guy when he first got into the into pride who's that fucking handsome guy. When he first got into Pride, he was a fucking handsome guy.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Vanderlei. Look at Vanderlei. You thought he was hot? Pretty sexy. I'd dance with him. He was cute. He was cute. He was sexy.
Starting point is 00:09:15 He was a completely different looking person. You know, Noguera as well. Noguera's face looks way different too. How about Nate fucking Diaz? Holy shit. It's like a carbon copy of nick diaz we got two nick diaz's we don't just have one yeah that's fucking incredible he was just like maybe a year behind nick diaz sort of in development it seemed like like maybe in jujitsu he was a little behind
Starting point is 00:09:36 and in the striking and the striking power and now he's like caught up to nick i think he had some weight problems too where he didn't cut the weight right and now he cuts it right and now he has way more energy because when he went up to 170 you know he he had some weight problems, too, where he didn't cut the weight right, and now he cuts it right, and now he has way more energy. Because when he went up to 170, he had some fights where he looked badass, like the Rory Markham fight. Holy shit. And I thought, man, this kid is draining himself too much to get down to 55. But then he figured out how to do 55 right, and he came in in the Gomi fight and just fucking lit Gomi up. But the Cerrone fight was even more impressive because he did it for three fucking rounds so it shows that he's got endurance at 155 too and he lit cowboy up man i mean that i thought that was gonna be a crazy close fight it's like sort of how i feel about
Starting point is 00:10:16 this condit fight i don't know what the hell's gonna happen i look at it i'm like man both guys are tough as fuck both guys have mad skills both guys can survive some dudes can't be the nail you know some dudes could be the hammer but when they're the nail they fall apart condit doesn't fall apart man condit got bombed on by jake ellenberger ellenberger had him in all sorts of trouble and ellenberger puts people away that kid hits fucking hard he's one of the hardest hitting guys at 170 and he bombed condit and. And Condit covered up, weathered the storm, and came back. That was the first fucking round, man. He was in all sorts of trouble in the first round.
Starting point is 00:10:50 A lot of referees would have pulled that trigger. A lot of referees would have stopped that fight if they didn't respect him, if they didn't know him. If he was like a new guy into the UFC. How did that fight end again? He won a decision. Won a close decision. Okay. But it was a great fucking fight.
Starting point is 00:11:03 But what it proved to me is that Condit is no frontrunner. He's a dude that is in it to win it. The Rory McDonald fight. Another perfect example. He came on the third round. Third round. Came back and stopped him. Lost the first two rounds. Came back in the third round and stopped him. And that kid is a fucking phenom, man. That Rory McDonald, man.
Starting point is 00:11:19 He's a phenom. With a fucking elbow he got him to the head. Yeah. He crushed him on the ground. He broke his face open on the ground. You know, Condit's an animal. He's a real fucking killer. That guy's a straight killer. What he said in that countdown show was badass. He goes, I want the referee to rescue you.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I want the referee to come in and save your life. Save your fucking life, man. And that's the way, when a dude thinks like that, that's a killer, man. I mean, if he wasn't doing this, he would be somewhere working for the military, shooting people in Iraq. I always said that about him. He's a killer. He's a killer.
Starting point is 00:11:50 He's a fucking killer. I mean, that natural-born killer, that's not just a nickname. You know, you can talk all that tough guy shit you want. What happens when you actually get in there and you're throwing down? When that guy's actually in there and he's throwing down, he's a fucking stone-cold killer. They both are. They're both stone-cold killers. Neither neither guy's gonna be scared of the other guy both guys are gonna be just going in there ready just let it all hang out this is gonna be a crazy weekend
Starting point is 00:12:14 i wish i wasn't working i wish i'd fucking get kenny florian to fill in i want to get hammered i'm gonna sit cage i'm gonna'm going to take it easy this time. It would be an honor to call this fight. Don't get me wrong, but there's fights like that where I wish I could just go, oh, shit. Oh, shit. Koscheck and Mike Pierce. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Are you kidding me, man? Pierce is dangerous for everybody. He's one of those guys that eventually he's going to catch on. Eventually, Pierce is going to hit his stride, and he's going to be Johnny Hendricks in dudes. You know, like Johnny Hendricks just took out Finch. There's these wrestler dudes that are just striking and slowly getting better, slowly getting better, but the power is always there.
Starting point is 00:12:56 It's just a matter of figuring out how to put fist to face. And they're getting better at it. And Johnny Hendricks, man, the way he put out John Finch like that with one punch. I'll tell you what, Johnny Hendricks hits anybody hits anybody with that punch anybody and you're fucksville fucked that guy hits really hard there's some guys you watch him hit dudes in the cage and you know you know you say well hey that's a strong guy that's an athletic guy Hendrix is one of those guys he's got that extra there's that extra there's some dudes when they hit you you hear it when you hear them hit the bag,
Starting point is 00:13:25 you know, you know, when you hear a guy hit the bag and he go, this motherfucker's got that extra pop to it. That's what Hendrix has got. You either have that or you don't have that.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I mean, you can certainly make your punching power better. You certainly build your muscles up a bit, put some weight on, learn how to turn your body into things better. But some dudes just know how to throw and that Hendrix cat knows how to throw. And so does Pierce, he knows how to fuck, especially that left hook, he's got power, and Koscheck too, man, Koscheck is dangerous as fuck, man, that Matt Hughes fight,
Starting point is 00:13:55 that was a brutal assassination, man, you know, that was a brutal ending to that fight, which you kind of knew it was going to happen, stylistically, you're like, well, here's two really good wrestlers, but one of them has stupid knockout power and the other one has been knocked out a few times. It's not the best stylistic matchup for Hughes. He's got to fight again. He's looking for another fight, Hughes.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Hughes and Hoist Gracie, they should make that happen, man. He'll kill Hoist. It doesn't matter. It's a good rematch. Hoist wants it really bad. No matter what happens, it's still going to be a match. I shouldn't say he'll kill Hoist because you never know what the fuck is going to happen. Hoist Gracie's a legend, for him. It doesn't matter. It's a good rematch. Hoist wants it really bad. No matter what happens, it's still going to be a match. I shouldn't say he'll kill Hoist because you never know what the fuck is going to happen. And Hoist Gracie is a legend. But based on that first fight, I would hate to see that again.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Unless there was something wrong with Hoist. Is Hoist claiming he was sick or something? I don't know. Hoist is an all-time great. He's the original legend. He was the first jiu-jitsu guy. The first guy to show the world. If it wasn't for him, I would have never known.
Starting point is 00:14:47 None of us would have ever known. If it wasn't for his for him i would have never known none of us would have ever known if it wasn't for his accomplishments in the ultimate final championship none of us would have ever known but that was a long fucking time ago you know and errors they pass for a reason and at a certain point in time your body just does not move the same anymore you know and the world passes you by and when that happens you got to step aside man you got to step aside you can't just be going out there and getting knocked out all the time and get hurt all the time. Because it's just reality. You know, reality, there's a certain point in time where all of us are going to be dust, man. And the only way this sport really works is that we stop people from competing when they hit that point. Because they don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:15:20 The same thing that makes someone a great fighter makes someone say, no, you're all wrong. I'm going to prove the world. I'm going gonna go out one more time i'm making a comeback that but that's that's how guys get up yeah but they gotta decide for themselves if hoyce wants to fight i wanna i would love to see hoyce matt hughes really he wants it if matt hughes wants wants another fight that's a great rematch what if we got on matt what if matt hughes got on his back just like before that'd be fine bombing him in the head herb dean would come in and stop it at the perfect time? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Like he always does? I don't want to watch that fight again. I don't want to watch what happened in that fight again. I love Hoyes too much, man. I love that guy. I think he's, like I said, he's a legend.
Starting point is 00:15:54 He's a hero. He's not going to get killed. He'll tap out. It's not that. People lose fights all the time. I don't want to see him fighting that. Unless there was something
Starting point is 00:16:01 really wrong with him and unless he's different now. He wants it really bad. I think that's good enough. Wow. You know who else wants Hughes? Who? Your boy.
Starting point is 00:16:09 My boy. Dan Hardy. Oh, shit. Dan Hardy's been calling him out. That'd be a good fight, too. Dan Hardy doesn't like him, apparently. That'd be a good fight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:16 You don't think Hughes would be able to take Dan Hardy down fairly easily? Unless Dan's worked really hard on his wrestling. Yeah. I'm assuming he's working day and night on takedown defense If Hughes goes back to the way he was wrestling when he was at his peak I mean, if that's possible, if his body can still do that, man Remember those days, like the Sakurai days? You know, people forget how dominant that motherfucker was
Starting point is 00:16:40 You know, he was dominant, man He was like one of the first dominant wrestlers actually that learned submissions too. So he wouldn't just beat you up. He started strangling guys, taking backs. He started getting arm bars. Frank Trigg.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Fuck yeah. Didn't he beat him twice? Beat him twice with a rear naked choke. Yeah. And the second time after he got kicked in the balls. Yep. Those were great days, man.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Remember he picked him up and walked him across? After Frank Trigg was bombing on him, Frank Trigg got his back and it looked bad. But Frank Trigg does bombing on him frank trigg got his back and it looked bad but frank trigg does not know how to finish that joke he doesn't know how to defend or finish and that hughes picked him up walked him to the middle of the fucking cage and threw him against the ground it was awesome man it was awesome that was like one of the best moments
Starting point is 00:17:17 like mma moments come from behind you know from being stuck guy kicks you in the balls hits you with a bunch of shots takes your back And this is that in a rematch of a fight where you fucked him up in the first fight You didn't want to fight him in the second fight anyway And then he starts winning and then Hughes just mustered it all up and turned it all around that was amazing That was some amazing shit. Yeah, some good high guard action in that fight as well. See a guy like Hughes I mean, I think Hughes is a great fighter, but I think a certain number of knockouts, they have to step in and stop you from doing that.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Whether it's your family, whether it's your friends, whether it's your boss, there's a certain amount of times. I've talked to, there's a guy that I know very well who is a traumatic brain injury specialist. And what he deals with is rehabilitating people and helping people with all these mental imbalances that people have due to traumatic brain injuries. One of the things that happens is your body stops producing testosterone.
Starting point is 00:18:17 You get really lethargic. You get depressed. That happens to a lot of guys that have a bunch of head injuries. They get depressed. Apparently, your brain can only take a few concussions in your life who needs to retire right now who yes i would never tell any of them to retire but there's a few dudes that i would i would pull aside and i would say you know think about this a little bit you know i don't want to say because i'm in my position you know being a commentator but there's there's a lot of them any
Starting point is 00:18:44 any dudes who've been knocked out a gang of times. But there's guys that violate that shit like Alistair Overeem. Alistair Overeem has been stopped a bunch of times, dude. He's been knocked out a gang of times. How many times? A lot. I would bet he's been stopped at least eight times. Damn.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Yeah. Yeah, he's been. Chuck knocked him out. Okay. Badr Hari knocked him out In kickboxing What is that big dude that used to fight King of the Cage? Real angry guy
Starting point is 00:19:12 Hoffman, Bobby Hoffman Bobby Hoffman knocked him out How about that? Yeah, Bobby Hoffman KO'd him Shogun KO'd him, I believe A bunch of dudes stopped him, man Oh, Karatanov knocked him out A bunch of dudes stopped him, man. Oh, Karatanov knocked him out. A bunch of dudes stopped Overeem.
Starting point is 00:19:28 But Overeem figured it out, man. And one of the things he figured out, he was just too fucking small. He was too small at 205, you know, when he moved up to heavyweight. But then again, Karatanov, I think Karatanov jacked him at heavyweight. He started, you know, I don't know what changed in him, man, what changed his ultimate dedication, what changed in him What changed his ultimate dedication What changed in his intensity What changed
Starting point is 00:19:48 But no one's ever turned it around like Overeem No one's ever gone from being stopped Like eight times Back when he was fighting at 205 In MMA He was thought of as a tough guy But a guy who would gas out He goes from that to be the first guy to win a world
Starting point is 00:20:06 title in both MMA and K-1 kickboxing. No one's ever done that before. No one ever won the K-1 Grand Prix and won an MMA title and looks like that. You know, who the fuck looks like Alistair Overeem? I mean, he's a goddamn superhero in a comic book. He turned it around. So when you got a guy like that, you kind of can't say anything. You you look at merco cro cop and you go man i love cro cop he's a legend he's got one of the greatest highlight reels of all time there's head kick knockouts one after the other but at a certain point in time how many times can cro cop get knocked out before someone doesn't want to you know you feel bad for him you know you know it's amazing the alertness of the whole concussion thing yeah like everybody's hip to it now.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Like, I was watching 60 Minutes Tuesday night and they interviewed Roger Goodall, the whatever of the NFL, and on Monday he reviews tapes to see who gets concussions. And they showed a guy hitting another guy, like a wide receiver getting hit
Starting point is 00:21:02 by a defensive back. And he pointed the defensive back getting getting the concussion, and staying in the fucking game. So they're fighting him now. They stay in the fucking game with the concussion because, you know, you don't want to go the fuck out. You're rocking. You're playing.
Starting point is 00:21:15 You know what I'm saying? So you don't even feel it. But it's amazing how the guys are staying in voluntarily. So who the fuck are you to tell them? It's dangerous, man. It's really dangerous. And these football players, they're finding out now. You know, these guys, by the time they even get to college, a lot of them are fucked up.
Starting point is 00:21:31 That dude who, remember that dude who died? Henry something. Henry died in the back of a pickup truck. Football player really recently. You don't know who I'm talking about? No. Him and his girlfriend were arguing. He jumped in the back of her pickup truck.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Google that shit, Brian, if you can. Henry were arguing He jumped in the back of her pickup truck to Google that shit Brian if you can Henry something Henry football player dead pickup truck Anyway, the dude died don't don't put bottle in the dude died and they he was only 28 I think and they checked out his brain in a brain of like an old man It was his brain was all fucked up His brain showed massive damage because he had been KO'd who knows how many times by the time he got to the pros You get KO'd in high school. You get KO'd in junior high
Starting point is 00:22:08 school. I talked to a dude who had a fucking 11-year-old son and his 11-year-old son got knocked out for a half an hour and they put him back in a month later. A month later, that kid's playing football again. I'm like, you're crazy. One of my students got knocked out in... Chris Henry.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Chris Henry, yeah. Yeah, what was his story? Does it say anything about his brain? Cincinnati Bengals football player Chris Henry died after he fell... Hold on. After he fell... Oh, the shit. It just went away.
Starting point is 00:22:42 He fell off the back of a pickup truck, right? Yeah, pickup truck. Fell off the back of a pickup truck. Fuck, man. These guys, man, they don't realize. A lot of people, you know, they had no idea. So they were just throwing these people back in over and over and over again. And now they're starting to put it together. What are you doing over there, Joey?
Starting point is 00:22:58 What are you doing? Checking something out. Well, one of my guys got knocked out last weekend in an amateur show. And he wasn't knocked out completely. It was controversial almost. Like, one of my guys got knocked out last weekend in an amateur show, and he wasn't knocked out completely. It was controversial almost. The ref stopped it. It was on the fence whether it was early or not.
Starting point is 00:23:14 He got up right away and was complaining. He was never out, but he was a little rocked. I didn't complain about the stoppage. It looked legit. He got rocked standing and then got taken down, a couple ground and pound against the cage. He never was out, popped up. By the time we got backstage, and then got taken down a couple ground and pound against the cage he never was out popped up by the time we got backstage by the time he sat down he didn't remember anything about the fight not one yeah they don't remember anything about the day he wasn't even out though that's the crazy thing he wasn't even out and he doesn't remember he didn't
Starting point is 00:23:39 remember the name of the hotel we were at well you remember when we saw tim sylvia we were in the hotel bar we're waiting uh to get our car to the airport and it was the next day after he fought randy couture he fought five rounds against randy and lost his title and he came up to us and he goes dude he goes i don't even remember the fight and he goes uh i i remember the the the bell ringing and then i remember sitting in the corner asking uh my my corner what round it was. And it's the last round. And he's like, what? The last round? Like, he just fought five rounds on instinct.
Starting point is 00:24:11 He had no idea what happened. He got hit with one right hand early in the fight and just had no idea what happened. Wow. Yeah, that's, you know, we don't, you know, that's why it drives me crazy when someone will call a fighter a pussy. Oh, this guy, you know know he never brings it he fights like a wet blanket you go get your you get your fucking brains rearranged son you get someone
Starting point is 00:24:30 shitting kicking you up the side of the head you know there's a lot of guys like criticize guys for being boring you know i doesn't bother me at all i don't i mean maybe i don't necessarily want to see them but i i respect what they're doing i respect like like antonio mckee a lot of guys give him a lot of shit you know because he you know he kind of like wrestles guys to the ground he never never gets in like stand-up exchanges with guys too much and doesn't take any damage but that's the key he doesn't take any damage yeah it might not be the most exciting thing in the world but if you want to fight it's really that's a smart way to fight man smart way to fight just close every close shop close everything there'll be no
Starting point is 00:25:05 punching there'll be no nothing there'll be you on your back and me punching you a little bit here and again but nothing crazy because i don't want to get submitted and then i'll win every fight you know it's it's not the smartest way to do it because it's a it's a sport and you're also marketing yourself it's entertainment but i understand it i'll never call one of those guys a it's a smart way to fight man What did you think of these fights this last weekend? It was tough matchups, you know. First of all, the Damian Maia-Weidman fight. Weidman cut a shitload of weight.
Starting point is 00:25:32 He took that fight on 11 days' notice, and you could tell when he was in there. He struggled. And even Ray Longo gave it away in the corner. Ray Longo said, you know, I saw what you went through yesterday. I saw what you did yesterday. You can do this. They said that his cut was horrific. But that kid is so fucking tough.
Starting point is 00:25:49 He just did it, and he went out there, and he grinded on Maya, and he won a decision. But you could tell by the end of the first round he was dead. He was dead walking. And Maya, luckily for him, was dead too. Maya looked like really – I heard he had a flu or something like earlier in the week. He did not look good either.
Starting point is 00:26:07 So both guys, it was a real endurance issue, you know. Like, I was talking to Jeremy Piven, and Jeremy Piven was, like, laughing about it, you know, because I didn't interview them. And he's like, would you have said to them, so it's safe to say endurance was an issue in this fight? Because it really was, like, it was kind of, you you know it wasn't the best fight to showcase MMA you know but it was just a circumstantial situation there's nothing you could do about it you got one guy who's a fucking stud wrestler with all this goddamn potential that Chris Weidman could be the king of the world someday he could be the John Jones of 185 pounds he he's a he's a beast he's a wicked wrestler he puts guys to. He put Tom Lawler to sleep with that fucking darts choke.
Starting point is 00:26:46 He's nasty, man. He's strong as fuck. I saw him fight Galvao in Abu Dhabi. He avoided everything, and he got Galvao in a fucking darts, and he didn't tap him. But the fact that he was able to sink it in and lock it up and had Galvao fighting to get his legs under him and to defend, pretty fucking impressive for a dude as a wrestler. I mean, I don't know what his Brazilian Jiu Jitsu rank is, but he's one of those kids that, you know, he's really fucking strong willed, really smart. And he's just a winner.
Starting point is 00:27:16 There's some dudes that are just winners, man. They could have a torn meniscus. They could have a fucking herniated disc. They take you down anyway. They take you down anyway. They still strangle you while they're in pain. There's dudes that can just force through shit like that. And that's Weidman's one of those, man. He's a fucking animal. And then Damian Maia, you know what I think about Maia, man? He's in limbo right now because Maia at one point in time was just taking everybody down and strangling them. He was all jiu-jitsu, and that's when everybody loved him.
Starting point is 00:27:37 He was nasty. But somewhere along the line, he figured, you know what? These Nate Marquarts, these guys I can't take down, they beat the fuck out of me standing. I've got to get my stand-up better. But in doing that, his jiu-jitsu is just not the same. It's not what it used to be. You know, he submitted to Chael Sonnen.
Starting point is 00:27:52 He submitted Ed Herman. He submitted all these guys. He was strangling people, man. And it was nasty. When he got you on the ground, you were a fucksville. And he pulled guard on those guys. He refuses to pull guard now. Chael Sonnen, he hit it with a fucking lateral drop.
Starting point is 00:28:05 You remember? I mean, he was nasty. But his stand-up is not good. He's mechanical. Like, he moves like the whitest guy on earth. You know what I mean? Like, if you look at the way he moves around, he's got like this. And he does the same thing over and over again.
Starting point is 00:28:19 He paws with the right and then throws the left. Paws with the right and then throws the left. It's way too predictable. You know, he needs to, that guy needs to, if he really wants to work on a stand-up, he needs to go to like Holland and just hang out with Tyrone Spong for a year. Just do what that guy does. Move the way that guy does. You know, go train with Gokhan Saki.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Go train with, go to Mike's gym and work out with Melvin Manhoof. See the way those guys move? You got to move like that. Imitate them. Move the way they're moving. Do those kind of combinations. Maybe your body doesn't exactly move the way that body moves, but try to emulate it. The best strikers all have a particular style, like especially kickboxers. They all have a particular style. You watch Manhoef fight, he moves and he throws feints, he throws feints, boom, and he throws kicks. He's got a very
Starting point is 00:29:03 particular way of moving, and the way of moving is the way of an elite striker. You know a dude, like when you see a, what's that dude's name, Chael Sanderson? You ever see that dude wrestle? When that dude gets low and he moves on dudes, there's guys that you look at them. You look at them move around on the mat,
Starting point is 00:29:20 you go, that's a fucking killer. You know, like Mark Schultz back in the day, you would look at Mark Schultz move around, you is a killer there's a certain way that guy moves you like that's an elite wrestler no doubt about it there's a way he hits those hits those takedowns it's elite you got to imitate those guys you got to if you want to be a real striker you got to figure out what those guys are doing it figure out that style and then do it apply it to mma but you've got to imitate the way they move and right now damian maya does not move the way those elite strikers move you know he's so good at jujitsu i know that he could be good at everything else but it's gonna it's a leap you know and at 32 years of age it's tricky right is that what he
Starting point is 00:29:59 is about 32 i'm not sure how old he is but i i really think that that Him eliminating the pulling guard strategy has really hindered his game I mean, there's only three things you can do in a fight. You can fight standing with a dude You can try to take the guy down or you can pull guard. Yeah, that's all you can do and Damian Maya always had that third option most MMA fighters most UFC fighters always had that third option. Most MMA fighters, most UFC fighters aren't good at that third option. Their guard isn't dangerous enough to pull and attack. Look at Paul Harris.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Paul Harris, who was the guy he beat? Did he put her in a leg lock? Oh, Misenzio. Yeah, that guy. That guy could have been an Olympic wrestler and a K-1 champion. And it didn't matter to paul harris he took that out of the equation he took a little shot and he pulled guard and went right after his legs
Starting point is 00:30:50 he bypassed the superior wrestling he bypassed the superior striking he had the third option most fighters don't have that third option damian maya was one of the few that did have the third option if he was having trouble on his feet and he couldn't take the guy down, which comes up all the time, having trouble on your feet, can't take the dude down, if you don't have that third option, you're going to just stand up and either lose a decision or get knocked out, and that's it. I would love to see Paul Harris and Damian Maia.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Ooh! And remember, at the height of Damian Maia, he was pulling guard. He was taking shots. If he didn't take him down, he was pulling guard. He was taking shots. If he didn't take them down, he would pull guard. He would sweep them, get on top, and attack. He's not doing that no more. He decided. Someone convinced him that just be a striker, just stand up, try to take a guy down.
Starting point is 00:31:37 There's so many guys out there that he's not going to be able to take down. And there's so many guys that he's not going to be able to strike with. Like Weidman. Yeah. What are you going to do? He's are you gonna do take down and you know what he's you know he was tired and so for both guys weren't in the best shape for that fight they both obviously had some sort of a physical issue but if he didn't if Weidman was at his best it's a terrible fight for him terrible fight he's not gonna take that but but if he would have been the old Damian Maya where he would have taken a shot he was sprawled he would have pulled guard his guard is dangerous enough in submissions and sweeps where he would have been the old Damien Maia where he would have taken a shot, he would have sprawled, he would have pulled guard. His guard is dangerous enough in submissions and sweeps
Starting point is 00:32:07 where he could have did something to Weidman. But he took that out of the equation, and then he decided to kickbox with him. And now all those years of jiu-jitsu, he's so good at jiu-jitsu, it's not even in the game. It's a kickboxing match. Why would you do that? If you can't take the guy down, drag him down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Otherwise, you have to kickbox, and Maya's not a kickboxer. Yeah, it's so stupid. Look at Paul Harris. Look at Paul Harris. What he did, he took a lazy shot. The guy sprawled. He sprawled right into guard, went right to a leg lock. The fight was over and done.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Those leg locks are ridiculous, dude. His leg locks are ridiculous. His legs are ridiculous. I was watching him move around. I was like, this dude has like grapefruit stuffed into his calves. There's no way his calves really look like that. Nobody's built like Paul Harris. People should watch that fight, Paul Harris' last fight,
Starting point is 00:32:56 and look at that as a serious way out of a fight that you're having trouble in. If you're in a fight and you're beating him standing, fuck it. Stay standing. You got this, motherfucker. Don't take him down. If you're in a fight and you're beating him standing, fuck it, stay standing. You got this motherfucker. Don't take him down. If you can take him down,
Starting point is 00:33:09 it's pretty easy to take him down. Take him down, get on top. But if you can't strike with him and you can't take him down, which comes up in so many fights, it's so common, you got to have your guard dangerous enough so that you can pull guard,
Starting point is 00:33:23 either with leg locks, arm bones, you know, whatever. Look what Paul Haas did. Look at early Maya. Yeah, he's got to figure it out, but too bad. His jiu-jitsu is awesome. It's awesome. In the old days, watching him was awesome. He's definitely got to figure it out, though.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It's a fucking crazy game, man, that fight game. It's a ridiculous game. Ridiculous way to make a living, man. You want to talk about the craziest, most dangerous way outside of war to make a living? That's it, right? Can you imagine getting punched in the face every day in training? Yeah, I can. Can you fucking imagine that shit?
Starting point is 00:33:53 I can, for sure. Every fucking day. Yeah. Ten fucking years. I remember when I first, the thing that really got me thinking about what kind of damage striking does to your head was when I started transitioning from taekwondo to kickboxing man because i was a novice my my striking was not very good my hands were not good i could punch hard but i didn't really know how to box yet and i would go in there with guys who did know how to box and even if they weren't punching you
Starting point is 00:34:17 hard they were hitting you a lot and you just go home and you're fucking i would lie in bed and my head would throb and it's that terrible feeling like what am i doing in my brain you know this can't be good lying in bed with headaches after a sparring session that shit can't be good and you'd go everywhere the light would hurt like and i wear sunglasses like because you the light would like hurt when your your head is pounding from getting punched in the head shit is so bad for you That's why jiu-jitsu is so beautiful. You get the thrill of the kill, yet there's no brain damage. Except, you know, the guy who scares everybody the most is Paul Harris
Starting point is 00:34:52 because everybody else just kind of taps you out. Paul Harris rips your legs apart. He rips dudes' legs apart. I mean, he just gets a hold of your leg and, like, sorry, you ain't walking right anymore. That's it. Your leg's fucked for, like, a year. Good luck. He might be the first guy to leg lock his way to the top because if he just keeps doing what
Starting point is 00:35:10 he's doing yeah what is he doing he's not really striking too much with dudes a little bit he's just gonna shoot and you're gonna sprawl because the shot wasn't that good he's not a wrestler and then he's gonna pull guard right into your legs so what are you gonna do against that you can work on your takedown defense all fucking day till your head explodes he's gonna pull guard on you he's taking all your wrestling and just throwing it out and fucking garbage all your striking you're wasting your motherfucking time yeah he's just gonna take a shot and pull guard he's a beast it's an amazing uh talent and skill to work on and not i don't think uh that many fighters um well i know not that many fighters are working on it and more should they should explore what's up
Starting point is 00:35:52 how much did you love chicago this week did you have a great time my head's still spinning god damn we had fun right that stage man i was overwhelmed that was one of the best shows we've ever done i think it was the best show we've ever done. You know, when I walked on stage, I had a stutter step for a second. Like the weed and the fucking stage hit me all at one shot. I couldn't digest it. My brain, it was like I had a little bit of concussion for the first three minutes. It was very surreal. And then once I got my timing going, it was all over.
Starting point is 00:36:19 But it was very surreal at first. I couldn't absorb it. I'm used to doing a theater with a bottom and a top. Not a bottom, a top, and another top on top of that, and another top on top of that. Filled to the brim, and the people fucking yelling. They know who the fuck you are. The energy level, you know, little Esther's parents,
Starting point is 00:36:36 just everything about the show. It was nuts. The line afterwards. I heard little Esther's parents didn't want her to take her to the UFC. They didn't want to take her. They just didn't want to drive. She lives about 40 minutes outside of where the UFC was. They didn't want to drive take her to the UFC? They didn't want to take her. They just didn't want to drive. She lives about 40 minutes outside of where the UFC was. They didn't want to drive and go through the traffic,
Starting point is 00:36:50 and the traffic was nuts. Were they nice parents? Yeah, they were nice. Nice people. I mean, nice to us. I don't know what they did to her to make her little Lester. Great limo driver, Damien, fucking great guy. Dan, Dan.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Dan, he took us to the core. Yeah, she fucking killed, dude. Did she? Esther killed, and she went on after Joey. Joey lit the core. Yeah, she fucking killed, dude. Did she? Esther killed. And she went on after Joey. Joey lit the place on fire. And then little Esther goes up. And I mean, she had a fucking killer set, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:13 She's got some great jokes. I mean, I said this to her parents. I'm not bullshitting. I go, she's way funnier than I was at her age. She's way better than I was at her age. She's going to be a killer, man. You know, she's right now, what is she, 23 or something like that? How old is she?
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah, 23. 23? She's a little kid. She grabbed from the other night. I was blown away. The night was great. The fans were great. The people I talked to were great.
Starting point is 00:37:36 But my night was made with little Esther. Yeah. Her parents were there. You know, I don't have parents. How great is that for your parents to come see you in a theater? Yeah. And not just your parents seeing you. Anybody can see you when you're on HBO and you got your hour. I'm talking about the night that it hit you.
Starting point is 00:37:53 It hit their parents finally what their daughter was really doing. You come home as a kid and you're like, Dad, I want to fucking jump off planes. What? You're going to come work in the factory with me. That's it. What? Nobody in this family ever jumped off the fucking planes? Fuck you. You're going to die. And for two with me. That's it. Nobody in this family ever jumped on a fucking plane.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Fuck you. You're going to die. And for two years, that's all you get is torture. And then finally, something. And every family has it. I'm not going to come see you. Your father's not going to come see you. He doesn't approve of you boxing. And all of a sudden, one night, your father does come.
Starting point is 00:38:19 And you know what? She just wasn't with Janine Garofalo and a bunch of girls. She was with killers she was with marines from the comedy store boot camp training they went to camp pendleton i followed paul mooney she was dead so i seen her growth right there when she got off stage her little face i had tears in my eyes dog i was i was so excited for her because you can't describe that her parents were there bro yeah she was uh it was incredible. It was the best show we ever did, for sure.
Starting point is 00:38:49 The biggest show we ever did, too. I've never sold out that many people. We sold out that whole place. It was like 3,300 seats or something like that. Holy shit. It was nuts. That's nice, man. 3,300 is giant, right?
Starting point is 00:39:00 It's giant. I've got videos of it. I've got videos of it. It's got to be a record, right? You saw another guy that had a Death Squad tattoo, Austin? You saw another guy that had a Death Squad tattoo also. Yeah, another guy who had a Death Squad tattoo. Death Squad tattoos, Joey Diaz shirts. I mean, it was just fucking overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Hey, Brian, I'm going to email you this. You can put this on the thing. It was very just inspiring. Just the fucking... I had a hot beef Italian sausage combo sandwich. I almost stayed there. I almost fucking moved there, Red Band, with hot and sour peppers, hot and sweet peppers from Mr. Beef.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I mean, this shit was fucking delicious. The restaurant I went to the first night was delicious. The fucking Fogo, the second night, we went to that steakhouse the third night. It was just fucking good. My asshole on Sunday smelled like I had firecrackers in there, like I had gunpowder in my shit. I miss going to Fogo. They put heavy-duty meat. They put heavy Like I had gunpowder in my shit. I miss going out. They put heavy duty meat.
Starting point is 00:39:46 They put heavy duty gunpowder in the meat in Chicago. That cattle is the real fucking deal. They got Deca in it because I shit my asshole. I had to light candles in the fucking hotel. It was horrid. Well, you know, Joey and I, we were staying in the corner of the hotel. And so we had our own, we had a door that would go into this area. And then he had a door and I had a door.
Starting point is 00:40:04 So we had like two doors. It was like our door to would go into this area, and then he had a door, and I had a door. So we had like two doors. It was like our door to get into our little area, and then we each had an individual door. I would open up my door. In Chicago, by the way, it's fucking 30 degrees outside. He's got his windows open, and you hear the wind whistling in like a haunted house. So I would open up the door, literally it would sound like, you know, like there was a fucking hurricane going on in the next room. And do you know I was still sweating at night?
Starting point is 00:40:31 You got to go to a doctor, son. I was still sweating in there. That shit ain't good. Listen, dog, I walked into the doctor's office yesterday for my pre-op. I walked in there at a quarter to nine. I hadn't smoked reefer. Didn't smoke reefer the night before. Had 10 hours of sleep.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Drank water. I was relaxed. You know what my blood pressure was At 8.45 in the morning What 185 over 100 Is that good No That's horrible
Starting point is 00:40:52 That's fucking murder Yeah Then after they took the blood out It went down to like 140 over 90 And that's okay But it's still not Fucking acceptable
Starting point is 00:41:01 You know what I'm saying Yeah My engine runs hot All the fucking time I take the medication. I take the... Well, you lost a shitload of weight at one point in time. Don't matter.
Starting point is 00:41:09 How much did you put back on? 20. That's it? That's it. I'm 295. I was even in shock yesterday. I was even in shock yesterday. But some of the weight I put back, I lifted.
Starting point is 00:41:19 I fucking, you know, replaced some of my... My legs are strong again. I mean, I'm trying to fucking really do this. I really want to get in shape. You know, it's not... You could be an in shape fat again. I mean, I'm trying to fucking really do this. I really want to get in shape. You know, it's not. You could be an in shape fat dude. You know what I'm saying? Like, it can't be hanging over in your titties and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:41:31 But you could try to. That's what I told the doctor yesterday. He goes, you know, one thing about you is I know you really try. I really fucking try at this. You know what I'm saying? I take my pills. I drink a lot of water. I really fucking try at this.
Starting point is 00:41:41 So, the fucking diet. Let me tell you something. I count my points. I still write the points down. But if I'm in Chicago with Joe Rogan, hey, you're not going to go to Fogo to chow. Wait, watch this because it's going to suck my dick. You know what I'm saying? You know what? We're not having the desserts no more. We had no dessert all weekend.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Well, we always had a fucking salad. You know, we always eat salad, mixed greens. You're trying the best that you fucking can. You know, for breakfast, I eat fucking oatmeal. I'm real careful about not eating too much before a show, but we had like two hours. Yeah, we had two hours. You know, and that's what fucking fucks with me.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Like, they won't put me on the Anivar for my knee because of my blood pressure. There's no fucking way. I knew that from the jump. You don't need to be no fucking genius. Yeah, you need to get yourself in a little bit better shape, huh? No, no, no. I just got to figure something out for the blood pressure. I either got to fucking...
Starting point is 00:42:26 Go on a straight vegetable diet. No. You pushing vegetarian on me? Come on. That's the best way to trim your body down. Lose body fat. What's the biggest you've been? 4'15".
Starting point is 00:42:37 No way. Jesus Christ. You were 100 pounds plus more than you are now. Was that when you did the intro to the last thing they did? Yeah. Because you look like a different person. How do you know? I probably gained 20 pounds after that.
Starting point is 00:42:48 When you're that big, how do you know? Because you go to a regular scale. How do you know? I don't know. You get on a regular scale, it just shrugs its shoulders. I stopped looking at it. And I would go to gyms. And I would put it all the way to 350.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And it would just go kink. So after a while, I would measure it by the kink. How fast it went kink. That's how you measure it? Ping. Ping. That's about 420. No, I didn measure it by the kink, how fast it went kink. That's how you measure it? Bing! Bing! That's about 420. No, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Trust me, dog. I always kept thinking 380, 390, and then I went to a fucking heart doctor, and they got the meat scale over on Century City. They got a meat scale. They got the fucking meat scale. They got the thing where they give you the pre-heart attack, where they shoot the speeding, and you get on the fucking bicycle and start running and shit. And that day, I was four fucking 15. Oh my God. So that's the biggest you ever won.
Starting point is 00:43:29 That was November of 2009 or something. And I said, and then he goes, come back in January and we either put you on a diet that fucking, you know, the lap band, whatever. Or, and I was, you know, I'm scared of needles. That's a couple of times you got to go see that motherfucker. It's not just a scared of needle thing. People break those things. How many times has Ralphie had that operation?
Starting point is 00:43:49 Ralphie had the other one, the bypass. He broke it though, right? He busted it. The needle snapped. He made a smaller stomach. They made him a smaller stomach and then he broke through it somehow or another. He overstuffed himself. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Didn't you have him on your podcast recently? Yes, he was very good. Talk about how he almost died? Yeah, he was very good, man. Yeah, what did he say? It was just one of those fucking things. He was burnt down. Do you look at a guy like that and go, as long as this bitch is alive, I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:44:19 That's your canary bird? No. Is he your canary in a coal mine? You know what, man? I know how hard it is for him to travel. I know what it was like to get on a plane when you're 415 pounds, and the seatbelt don't even fit in fucking first class, okay? I know what it's like how to walk out, how your joints hurt.
Starting point is 00:44:34 That's why I love these personal trainers that, you know, I go to North Hollywood Park and I got 400 pounds walking around the park. It's not going to work, my friend. It's going to last three weeks. It's going to tap out. The joint pain is unbearable. Put him in a fucking pool and make him eat vegetables and shit like that, you know? And I know what it's like to sleep. Is that what it is, a joint pain? That's the real issue with being that heavy?
Starting point is 00:44:53 It's amazing. It's amazing. And every time you fucking fly, your ankles swell up. And he's flying two, eight times a fucking week. You know, Ralphie. He's constantly flying, right? Constantly flying. Is he on the road every week? He's on the road already. How bad is it? He's on the road already. How bad is it? He's on the road already?
Starting point is 00:45:06 He's in Tempe for Super Bowl weekend. Eight fucking shows, the whole fucking thing. So he stopped smoking weed? He stopped smoking weed. Is he eating it? Nothing. No weed? He can't do nothing.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Oh, that's so sad. Wait, he stopped because of what? He had like blood clots in his lung or something like that. How would weed hurt that? In effect of his lungs. Weed did? Or the smoke in it? The smoke in it and the fucking flying and the fucking, you know, not breathing.
Starting point is 00:45:33 And it adds up after a while. I would think it would make all that traveling fun. You know, they do all these tests on marijuana. They do tests on a guy like Eddie Bravo, who's a normal weight yourself. When you add 400 pounds, it's got to do something to your fucking lungs. When your lungs are this big and you're trying to, what's going on? Brian. That's what's going on.
Starting point is 00:45:53 The show is going too well. It fucking affects you at every level. I found treasure. It affects you at every level, man. The reefer is just something that they told him to stop smoking as a precautionary measure. Well, I think smoking anything is probably not so fucking good for your body. You know, there's no evidence that it causes cancer. It's very different from tobacco smoke.
Starting point is 00:46:11 We have smoke all put in the same category, but it's not. It's not. But there's other options. It's got to do something to you to pot smoke. I've been smoking weed for 30 years. I've coughed. I've spit fucking colors, fucking schmurfs, the whole thing. Something's got to be going on with your lung.
Starting point is 00:46:26 You know, these people sit there and say, well, Harvard did a research. Yeah, that's great. It's got to do something to you. Nothing is fucking free. You've got to pay somewhere along the fucking line. So knock it the fuck off reading High Times, some scientist with a beard with sandals on. I don't give a fuck. I'm telling you that somewhere along the line, smoking for fucking 30 years.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I've been smoking weed for fucking 30 years. And I'll tell you what I know for a fact. I got that C-O-P-D. I know for a fact. OCD? No, P-O-C-D. What's P-O-C-D? That shit with your lungs when you hear little bells and whistles in your lungs.
Starting point is 00:46:58 So what I do, you know, when you breathe. What? Right now. Are you talking about M-E-T-H? You ever hear me breathing on the fucking. You ever hear me breathe. Hey, hey, hey. Stupid. You ever hear me breathing On the fucking You ever hear me breathe Hey hey hey Stupid
Starting point is 00:47:06 You ever hear me breathing On the microphone You ever do Fucking stupid You ever do a thing On the microphone You go Joe I hear you breathing
Starting point is 00:47:14 Do you hear you breathing Do you hear Eddie breathing That's COPD or something So what I usually do is Look at the fuck up Don't look at him With that fucking look Well if I knew the exact acronym
Starting point is 00:47:23 Chronic obstructive Pulmonary disease. That's what it is. Remember I used to take the steroid that I used to breathe in, and it gives you fucking, like you eat. Oh, that like Avodar. Yeah, yeah. And then remember I said that the one doctor said I might have asthma?
Starting point is 00:47:34 Yeah. So what I used to do is whenever I'd hear the bells and whistles, you just go run around three laps. Poof. Cleans it out. Really? I've been doing that for years. Whenever I hear a bell and whistle,
Starting point is 00:47:43 that means you ain't walking enough, cocksucker. Get on the, blow the whistle. Did you get, see that thing that Brian's got Whenever I hear a bell and whistle, that means you ain't walking enough cocksucker. Get on the boat. Blow the whistle. Did you see that thing that Brian's got? Have you seen that? That's great. You just got to get out and walk. Forget computers. You're right. The beautiful thing about that is it tells you exactly what you're doing. You can't bullshit yourself.
Starting point is 00:47:58 It tells you how much sleep you're doing. And if you think you need it and you don't have any money, just write on a piece of paper you're lazy fucking put in your pocket. That's what I've realized that what I do. I look at it and I'm like, oh, shit, I'm lazy. I know this already. I could have saved myself $100.
Starting point is 00:48:15 And so it's not changing your habits at all? No, I can see myself trying to beat my score before. I can kind of see that. But unfortunately, I just have this lifestyle that I'm so fucking busy that the only way that i can change that is just to make sure i work out every day where this is more like for people that i guess uh like have time more time to try to jog more brian is totally doing a totally different approach to what we're doing brian is working out solely so that he can get more pussy that That's fine. That's his issue. That's why 60% of people take fucking steroids that aren't athletic.
Starting point is 00:48:48 How many times you go to a bar and there's 18 guys looking around? You think they're going for Mr. Olympia, and you're like, where do you live, Glendale? So what's all these weights for? For what? To do what? To be a bartender for 100 a night at the fucking local club? No, to pick up pussy. That's a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Do you do steroids? Not really. No, you just look like a fucking tree trunk. You know, but you don't do steroids. Okay, you're like the Barbarian Brothers. I ate 36 eggs for the last three years every fucking day. Well, Brian is just doing it to keep up. He's got a freak on the line.
Starting point is 00:49:16 That's what he's got to do. I need a couple more power bars. Listen, most people don't get fucking serious until they get rushed to the hospital. This obesity fucking epidemic in this country is until you get rushed to the fucking hospital with a tube coming out of your ass. Then you'll be at the gym doing jumping jacks, bro. Or you're going to fucking die. When did it affect you?
Starting point is 00:49:32 When did you really start thinking, I got to do something? When my fucking spine was hurting when I do blow. Whoa. The back of my neck was fucking going when I would do blow. When I would have to wear underwear to go to the gym Whoa, whoa, whoa. The back of my neck was fucking going zzz, zzz, zzz, zzz, zzz, zzz, zzz, zzz. When I would do blow, when I would have to wear underwear to go to the gym because I would piss my pants because I couldn't catch my breath when I was throwing punches with macafole. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:49:54 That's when I fucking realized it. And I knew that I wasn't going to get the operation. That was not going to fucking work at all. So I knew that I had to just eat right. You just can't deal with the idea of it. You were also talking about it like it was a weak thing to do. What? Working out? The operation. No, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Because people think in this country, everything... Bro, look at our fucking kids we got now. A kid has a fucking bad day, they put him on a fucking pill. And then when they get old and the computer crashes, now they got to put him in another. They have a nervous breakdown. You go to Little League and fucking Sherman Oaks. You know you can't yell at the kids to strike or you suck or swing.
Starting point is 00:50:28 These kids are fucking pampered. That's why half of them are on fucking pills, guy. So what you're trying to tell me is I can go to Burger King every night and eat like a fat fucking slob until I'm 35 and call Mr. Lapman and get my shit together? And that's what you're telling this country. So half of these motherfuckers aren't going for the right thing. When you're 400 pounds, you're not sick. It's your character.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Something's fucking not right. Something's not right. So if you get up and walk to the corner every fucking day, eventually you're going to get bored walking to the corner, so you're going to walk another corner. Then you're going to walk another corner. Then you're going to walk to the YMCA like I did, and you're going to get on the bicycle for five minutes.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Then it's ten minutes, and it all fucking helps out. See, in my world, when you're a comic, you think that you only come home Mondays and Tuesdays. So if I work out Mondays and Tuesdays, Eddie, what's that going to do for me? Nothing. Not true. Even two days a week fucking helps. I didn't know that. That's the mentality I took. I'm like, you know what? I'll fucking snort blow. And the sick thing was that I always kind of worked out, Eddie. I always lifted weights. I always did fucking something you know I'm saying I wasn't like so that's why when I got sick and bothered me But I felt like I was too much behind the eight ball the first you're about to get out You're about to get knee surgery fuck. Yeah, yeah, and I'm ready. It's like I fainted yesterday
Starting point is 00:51:36 You fainted on the way up from the fucking you don't even feel limit a some it's 2012 these new vampires You don't even feel the fucking needles They could fuck you in the ass 80 times and you don't even feel the fucking needles. They could fuck you in the ass 80 times and you won't even know it no more. Listen, I put Santan on my iPod and I looked the other way. And two minutes later the bitch bent my fucking arm up. I didn't feel the fucking needle. I didn't feel the
Starting point is 00:51:55 fucking needle. So they let you put an iPod on? You put an iPod on? I do it all the time. When I go to the dentist I put something on. Why sit there and look at Bela Lugosi when I could fucking... Every fucking dentist looks like Bela Lugosi to me when fucking look at Bela Lugosi? Yeah, every fucking dentist looks like Bela Lugosi to me when they're looking at your fucking mouth.
Starting point is 00:52:07 You know what I'm saying? You don't feel rude but just tuning out? No, most dentists have TVs. Right. My fucking wife goes to a place that has fucking big screen TVs with headphones.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I stopped going to this one dentist because he would ask me stupid fucking questions. Yeah, no. You know, you just weren't comfortable. I'd have like really bad conversations, like clunky conversations with him.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I was like... When you got your fingers in my fucking mouth, what is there to talk about? Listen, let's understand each other. I'm going to lay back and open my mouth. Tap me when I'm fucking done and I'll tap you if it hurts because that's what they say.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Tap when you feel the drill or something. You put the fucking iPod on, you close your eyes. You're not in there. Eddie Bravo, what's happening, cocksucker? You're a month away from having a kid, you're sitting there like fucking Buddha with no fucking food. Talk to me, cocksucker.
Starting point is 00:52:51 I love it. Are you ready for this, man? Are you ready? You got to be fucking ready. Don't tell me this shit, hell yeah. You got to be ready. Have you picked a name yet? Don't tell me that you looked at a TV show on Discovery.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I want you to tell me you went to your uncle's house and changed some diapers. I've been wanting to have a kid for a while. And we tried that. This was planned. This was not an accident. I wanted a kid. I'm proud of you.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I'm happy for you. It's going to be a fascinating experience, man. I see what it did for you. I see what it did for you. You're a different fucking man. For sure. Changed me as a human being. First, it was the reefer.
Starting point is 00:53:22 When you came to me, you said you had the best ice cream sundae in your life the other night with Eddie Bravo. The way you gave it to me, that was beautiful. And then next thing you know, Mrs. Rogan came on the scene. I seen the whole evolution. Dude, I will never forget the day Eddie Bravo got me high. We went and had ice cream sundae, and I had the most massive revelation of my life. I couldn't believe how goddamn good that ice cream sundae tasted. I mean, for me and you, that was the first time you ever straightened up.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Before then, you ever straightened up. Before then, you were a fucking ape. You were still bent over. If I threw you a banana, you'd eat the fucking peel. Seriously. That day, after you ate that banana at Dairy Queen, you were back. You were back.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Your chest was up and shit. Well, you guys know me. I don't know me as well as you guys know me. Oh, please. That was it. You were walking on all fours until that fucking day. I know I'm a different person. I'm a lot more relaxed and everything. But it must have been interesting much more for you to watch someone change their personality.
Starting point is 00:54:11 It's a fucking beautiful thing. It's a fucking beautiful thing, man. I love to see evolution. I'm a people watcher. I love to watch people shut your fucking mouth. Don't say, shh. Don't say nothing to him. Let him walk into that hole.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Don't say nothing. I think coming from my background, doing martial arts competitions my whole life and then just transition right into comedy, I had never relaxed. I never settled down. I never learned how to just be calm.
Starting point is 00:54:37 My whole body and my brain, my personality, all developed under duress. It all developed under physical combat all the time on a regular basis. Constant training, constant fights, constant tournaments. That was my life from like the time I was 15 until I was like 22. All my formative years was all spent in stress. And I remember when I first decided that I wasn't going to fight anymore,
Starting point is 00:55:00 it was like the first time ever in my life when I was like 22. It was my last kickboxing fight. The first time ever where I could relax. I would always like be nervous. Like when is the next tournament? When's the next fight? When's the next thing I got to get in shape? I can't be drinking this. I can't be doing it. Couldn't live my life because I was always worried about getting my ass kicked. I was always worrying about like, I have to make sure that I do everything right. I got to be prepared. I don't want to get fucked up, you know? So it's like, it's, it wasn't the best mindset to go into standup comedy for.
Starting point is 00:55:27 That's for sure. It's like a constant battle. Cause standup comedy, you gotta, it's totally the opposite. You gotta not give a fuck. You know, you gotta,
Starting point is 00:55:33 you gotta be relaxed. You gotta have fun. Instead of be tense and ready to go at any moment's notice. You know? You sent me a, by the way, whatever you sent me doesn't work. One of them doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:55:42 The other two do. Check your emails. Yeah. I just, you sent me two things and both of them are like movies that are one second long what yeah brian it's amazing check it again dude i know it's i know it's good my fucking resend it okay my fucking 15 to 22 my mind wasn't fighting my i wasn't a fighter but i was in a different type of hell i was in in my own hell that I was putting myself into, you know? And it's so weird that I became a comic, what, six, seven, eight years later or something like that. And how I took that wildness into the fucking comic.
Starting point is 00:56:15 And nobody understood what I was saying until I met you guys at the store. I found the fucking home. I was always, I used to travel on the road with Tribble and do all these little road things. I remember when I first met you at the store, everybody was fucking terrified of you. Yeah, I was crazy. Nobody. You and I, I remember being like the only guy when I first met you that was like, he's great. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:56:36 I love that guy. And everybody was like, oh, here comes Joey Diaz. Like, where is he at? I would gravitate towards you. Oh, I was crazy. Because you didn't scare me. You were nice to me. I remember this.
Starting point is 00:56:44 You weren't a scary guy to me. You were nice to me. I didn't know this. You weren't a scary guy to me. You were a regular dude. You were like one of the only guys there that I could relate to. There was like a lot of guys that I couldn't relate to. I knew dudes like you. You know what I mean? Not you, but you and my friend Johnny B, the pool hustler. Very similar characters, man.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Very, very similar characters. You're both way out there. You're both like not give a fuck guys and you're both guys that were like polarizing some people would love you to death and then everybody you know there was a large group of people that for whatever reason they'd be upset at you like i remember having to defend you even the dom herrera even dom herrera was hating on you everybody every and i don't get and i loved it i fucking loved it because that's why you know it's so weird that this whole surgery thing really taught me about fear.
Starting point is 00:57:27 My fear has fucking done wonders for me. Because that's why when I wake up in the morning, that's the first thing I fucking do is grab my fucking cock. Because for years I was scared. I'm always insecure. That immigrant fucking thing shizzled into my fucking mind since the streets of New York City with the white kid. The immigrant thing? The immigrant thing. Not knowing the language, not feeling good enough like everybody else, not being a fucking
Starting point is 00:57:50 American. And it sits inside my fucking soul. So for me, everything has been driven on fear. Every time I get on stage, like the other night, fear was real in Chicago. I got on stage in between the reefer and whatever was going on and the lights. I got fearful, man. But you know what? That's normal to be scared.
Starting point is 00:58:07 That's a great emotion, especially when you're a stand-up comic. Because the more scared you are, the better you're going to fucking do. Especially in my case. The more riled up I am, two minutes before I go on stage, the more energy I'm going to give that fucking audience. But I've looked at my life and I've seen how much fear. I was petrified to go get that fucking needle even though i fucking knew nothing was gonna happen i was gonna walk out of there but i went in i took the needle after i walked out of that needle i could have fucking
Starting point is 00:58:33 killed 10 fucking people with my bare hands because you overcome one of your biggest fucking fears till this day i get little emails and people you know i suffer i suffer i suffer from a social disorder and i don't know what to do. Well, the answer ain't taking a fucking pill. It's checking your fucking confidence and grabbing your balls and walking into a circle and saying, fuck it, I'm here. You know, my mentality was always go into the mouth of the line and put a chair down and sit the fuck down and let the pieces fall where they may. And if you're not going to live like that, fuck them all. I'm at the store two fucking nights, Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:59:03 The first fucking night, Eddie Griffin bumps me. You know how embarrassing that is? You become a regular on a Sunday. The first fucking night, you bring 11 people to come see you. Your landlord comes, and you get bumped by Eddie Griffin. And the second night, I go up there, and Steve Greenstein says to me, hey, last weekend, you fucking auditioned here for Mitzi, and you said one of my jokes. I said, it's February fucking 11th. I just come off a plane, January 29th, and you're already accusing me of being a fucking thief. And remember, he had his violin case.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Who? Steve Greenstein. I don't remember him. It was a creepy guy, older guy that hung out at the Comedy Store, and he had a violin case. So this is a Tuesday night. It's Black Night at the Comedy Store. It's 8 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:59:39 The main room is packed, but the original room would be empty because people were scared to go up there on Black Night because they thought they were going to get fucking mugged. So the original room was always empty because people were scared to go up there on black night because they thought they were going to get mugged so the original room was always empty so steve greenstein was up before me he get this is my second night the comedy store dog i just got to l.a i'm a criminal i've been in prison i got all these problems but for the first time in my life i got a little daylight at the comedy store this lady made me a regular all my life people were like has mitchie shaw seen you has mitchie shaw seen you she's gonna make you a regular i get down there.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I'm a regular. This is the first time since my mother died I had any luck. I had been in prison. I had been divorced, shot, the whole fucking deal. And the next thing you know, I become a regular. It's Tuesday night, and I get off stage, and I'm waiting to hang out for a little while. And Steve Greenstein comes up to me, and he says to me, dog, one of your jokes is like my joke. I said, which one?
Starting point is 01:00:23 He said, something about O.J. Simpson's maid. I go, dog, I didn't steal the joke from you. I just fucking got here two weeks ago. Wheels comes out. He goes, this guy didn't steal the joke from you. The only problem was the guy put the violin case behind his fucking legs when I spotted it. So he starts threatening me. He's like, dog, the next time you do that joke, we're going to have a problem.
Starting point is 01:00:40 I just pushed him, Joe Rogan. He fell over the violin case. Well, as he's falling down, Mitzi's limo pulls up.'s it i'm like i'm done this is my life i'm fucking gone out of here i'm never gonna get another fucking spot again i'm gonna go back to selling fucking blow and wheels got between us scott day got between us and mitzi came on go oh what happened here and he started saying he goes no this kid's Cuban, blah, blah, blah. But Mitzi seen the kid on the floor and fell in love with me after that because I pushed that motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:01:10 She liked the fact you pushed him off? Because I stuck up for myself, sure. Yeah, you got lucky she was crazy. Sure. She liked all kinds of conflict. If that happened at the fucking improv, I would have been out on the fucking street. How often did you perform at the improv?
Starting point is 01:01:20 Not for a while, right? In those days, in those days, every week because the guy, Richard Cooper Richard Cooper loved me the talent coordinator But I got to LA January 29th. That was a regular at the store February 19th on my birthday I didn't fuck around this town when I got here But you couldn't do the improv admits he found out but I went to Scott day said dog Richard Cooper gives me spots So I would go over there and I had a couple problems over there right off the fucking bat people thought they were cute over There you know you leave your fucking girlfriend in the seat,
Starting point is 01:01:47 you go to the bathroom, you come back there talking to them like they know. That is an issue. You know, it's a fucking issue. You got to stop them like I told you, like Hitler in Munich. If not, you're going to have a fucking problem, dog. So I would say things to people and all of a sudden you're a bad fucking person. So what the fuck? I don't give a fuck. And we're here 12 years later and we're still rocking and rolling. They can still suck my dick and call me shorty. We're doing a show, if you're in town, Pasadena, this Thursday night. Don't come if you're a stalker.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Thanks. Pasadena Ice House, Thursday night. What time, Brian? It's 8.30. Joey Diaz, Joe Rogan, Little Esther, and a bunch of other people. And we also have a show Friday. Go to icehousecomedy.com for the tickets. Oh, snap, freaks.
Starting point is 01:02:25 And Vegas, Friday night, Eddie Bravo's coming. He's gonna play the drums and shit. You coming Friday night? We're looking at the flights. We might go in Saturday morning, not sure. Yo, I'm fucking driving next time I go to LA. I'm not driving this time. Next time
Starting point is 01:02:42 I go to LA, though, I'm driving. Vegas. Memorial Day weekend to see Junio Dos Santos against my man if he recovers from the surgery. Yeah, I'm tired of fucking flying, man. I would rather spend the four hours. Let's take the big fucking Cadillac Escalade. Let's go out there. I got a new one. I got one of these new Infinity
Starting point is 01:02:58 things. With the music and the whole fucking thing. Hey, Brian, come here. Help me export these things. It's not exporting right. But then they'll pull us over like Snoop Dogg, those cocksuckers. Every time they see Snoop Dogg, he gets pulled over. If they smell you anywhere near them, we're going to jail. It's right here. Sup, EB?
Starting point is 01:03:13 What? I rock a shock in the fucking house. I retweet the video. Denny Pruittupus is here. Fresh off his fucking 19 wins this Sunday. Yeah. Gracie Nationals was an epic day for Templar. Where was the Gracie Nationals. Yeah. Gracie Nationals was an epic day for Templar Jiu-Jitsu. Where was the Gracie Nationals at? The Gracie Nationals was in L.A. this past Sunday.
Starting point is 01:03:34 And Rose Gracie, the granddaughter of Helio Gracie, the grandmaster of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, she decided to go old school with the Gracie Nationals. She's been running it for the last few years and she, you know, the whole point system that jiu-jitsu tournaments are run by are just ridiculous. I mean, it's just
Starting point is 01:03:53 people are fighting for points and stalling and it's ridiculous. And Rose Gracie decided to, you know, make her the late great Helio Gracie proud and make it all just a submission-only tournament. And these tournaments are becoming,
Starting point is 01:04:12 this format's becoming more and more popular. They do it in the Pacific Northwest at the Sub League in Oregon, and they run smoothly. People have been afraid of sub-only tournaments because of time constraints and all that stuff. But Rose Gracie made it work. She had the balls to go no points, no advantages, 15 minutes submission only. If you go 15 minutes without a submission, both competitors are out of the tournament. So that's the ballsiest format there is out
Starting point is 01:04:45 there and and now the Gracie Nationals is the most prestigious submission only tournament on the planet and I think that's the future for jiu-jitsu because you know it was a lot more fun preparing for a submission only tournament all we worked on was the fun stuff the good stuff about jiu-jitsu, the finish, the closing the deal, the working on our squeeze. For the no-gi worlds, we had to spend time working on stalling techniques because when you're playing a point game and it's like six-minute matches, a guy will get a point or just a little advantage, which is even less than a point.
Starting point is 01:05:23 And once they're up, an advantage they they'll hold and they won't do anything and people aren't used to wrestling with guys that are just holding holding on to leads in class you don't just hold on to a lead there's no one's counting points in class so you actually have to prepare for that you have specifically prepare for tournaments that are run by points and um it's just so not fun preparing like stalling techniques and stalling live drills and prepare whatever dude just holds on and doesn't do anything it's ridiculous so Rose Gracie decided to eliminate all of that and make the Gracie Nationals a submission only tournament and she's also doing the Gracie Worlds in July, July 15th in San Jose, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:08 finally, you know, you're going to be able to get a world title in a submission only format, which is the greatest. I mean, it's so much, it means so much more to win in a submission only tournament than by points. You're a world champion and you won by an advantage world champion. Those days, it does nothing for the development of your jiu-jitsu. It just gets you better
Starting point is 01:06:33 at holding and stalling out and running out the clock. It's just ridiculous. So mad huge props to Rose Gracie and her husband Javi Vasquez who put this tournament together and you know
Starting point is 01:06:47 I think this is the future I think a submission only format is the only way to go we're taking bias refs completely out of the game the refs have nothing to do with the game so they have no time limits? well there's no time limit in the final
Starting point is 01:07:02 but in the qualifying matches it's a 15 minute time limit in the final. But in the qualifying matches, it's a 15-minute time limit, which is plenty of time. And if there is no submission in those 15 minutes, both guys are out. So it's amazing. We had so much fun. Both guys are out. So if two guys are just like Marcelo Garcia and Jake Shields,
Starting point is 01:07:19 they stall each other out. They're both out. Whoa, that's crazy. But in the finals, no time limit. We had some epic matches epic matches um um 10 planet san francisco went 12 and one i had about you know maybe how many affiliates you got now i got over 30 i lose track isn't that crazy you started out just doing it as something to do you know like man what should i do maybe i could teach now and then boom
Starting point is 01:07:44 now you got like an empire man it was all an accident it's weird isn't it weird i thought i thought that that when we were working on the man show we were gonna parlay that into some yeah we've trey parker matt stone shit you know yeah but it was all a dream i used to read word up magazine salt and pepper heavy d up in the limousine the next thing we're gonna going to do is we're going to get a fucking comedy club. I decided while I was taking a shit today, high as fuck on a toilet bowl. That's the next move. The next move is a reality show about this fucking place, about doing a podcast and doing a comedy club and having it all connected. The way we do it, man, when we have this show thursday night we have podcasts going on at
Starting point is 01:08:25 the same time as the comedy show and everybody just rotates in it's the greatest fucking thing we've ever done the greatest thing we've ever done the perfect thing you go on stage man you're you're already flowing like you got to go on stage right now boom yeah you'll be on you told the lucy snorebrush story what is it what's the name lucy snowbush if you if you told that lucy snorebrush story and then went on the stage now, you would be in prime. That is the most ridiculous fucking thing I've ever told on your podcast. It's the greatest story of all time. People want Lucy Snorbusch t-shirts.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Oh, my God. I broke into Lucy Snorbusch's room and ate her ass in the middle of the night. They want that t-shirt. Oh, my fucking God, man. Yeah, it was ridiculous. We've got some yells on here. And then we got Vegas Friday fucking night. Yeah. We were in Chicago. Like I said, this was We've had some yells on here. And then we got Vegas Friday fucking night. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:05 We were in Chicago. Like I said, this was the biggest show we had ever done. And it was pretty crazy. I made a video of how fucking crazy it was. Brian, throw that shit up. Look how big this place is. I don't know if you can tell. Thank you very much, everybody.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Thanks for coming out. Thank you, Chicago. Look at the size of this place. This was the biggest show I've ever done in my life. What do I tell you? Wow. Look at the size of this place. Wow. How long did you do? An hour and 22 minutes. We stayed outside and signed pictures for fucking hours, man.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I had to pay those security. I had to pay like $2,000 extra, man. I had to pay those security. I had to pay like $2,000 extra in security because I had to keep them around. That's incredible. Because union is like laws. They have rules. You have to pay people. Play the second one. The second video is ridiculous. This is when we were signing, and this is all just a line of people that were waiting to take pictures
Starting point is 01:10:06 with Joey and Duncan and sign posters. Mike Maxwell made a poster just for the event and check this shit out. This is bonkers man. This is when we were in the upstairs balcony area. This place is fucking huge, the Chicago Theater. At one point in time, it was a silent movie house. It was built in 1921. Sinatra performed there in 87.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Little Esther's father took the mother there to see Sinatra in 87. Holy shit. When he was forgetting his lyrics and the wig was crooked and shit. But he was still motherfucking Sinatra, Jack. He was still banging bitches two at a time. Sinatra died before Viagra kicked in. He missed the boat. He missed the boat.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Those grumpy old men, they couldn't get any pussy anymore. There was no reason to perform. It was all over. Even though he was Sinatra, he only got a hard-on like once a month at the end. He was still getting pussy with the wig like a pimp, dawg. Look at this. Thanks for coming out, everybody. can you rotate that brian there's obviously something wrong with the iphone well the way the iphone interpreted it can't you rotate that no
Starting point is 01:11:13 not on the fly not okay but look how nutty that is you know why it does that right joe because it's a piece of shit no no no before you hit record look icon. If it's tilted sideways, it's going to record it sideways. Oh, okay. Look how nutty that is, man. That's just all the people waiting to get into line to take pictures and shit. That was a fun fucking time. Thank you. That one dirty freak that pulled her tits out and had everybody sign her tits.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Tremendous. She had great tits. Hey, dog. She had great tits. She had great tits. Don't put it down. They were nice 24-year-old firm little fucking chichis and shit. She had great tits. She had great tits. Don't put it down. They were nice 24-year-old firm little fucking chichis. She was a freak.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Chichis. She had a little boyfriend that looked like fucking what's the guy you like? Bruno Mars. Bruno Mars. And this freak was ready to go, Jack. I want to be your man. Yeah, didn't somebody throw that guy under the bus? Who was it?
Starting point is 01:12:00 Jaden James used to date. Is that Bruno Mars that sings that song? Yeah, well, it's Bruno Mars and the other guy, right? Yeah. There's two guys. Yeah. Who's the other one? I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:12:09 There's the rapper guy and then the singer guy. Which one is which? Great fucking tune, whoever the hell it is. Did you hear about those English people that got arrested at the airport? No. You didn't hear about this shit? Dude, it's one of the fucking weakest things I've ever heard ever about the TSA. It's sad what this country has become.
Starting point is 01:12:27 These English people, they were coming over here for a vacation, so they joked around and they said, hey, we're going to go over to America and we're going to fucking destroy America. We're going to dig up Marilyn Monroe's body. I mean, it sounds like some shit that Joey Diaz would say if he was British, right? We're going to come over here. We're going to have a fucking party. This is what they wrote.
Starting point is 01:12:44 I'm going to destroy America and dig up Marilyn Monroe. That's what this dude said on his Twitter. They came over here to party. That's all. TSA, check them for shovels, these dumb fucks. They went, you're going to dig up Marilyn Monroe. We're going to catch you. Oh, did they tweet this or something?
Starting point is 01:13:00 Yeah, they tweeted it. So now they're looking at her Twitter. Yeah, man. They tweeted it. They're 26 years old, man. They're looking at her Twitter. Yeah, man. They tweeted it. They're 26 years old, man. They're kids. They went to party, man. Department of Homeland Security. Way to go, you fuckheads. These silly fucks.
Starting point is 01:13:14 They're supposed to be protecting us. They pulled aside this cute punk rock looking British couple. They look like sweethearts. You know, I mean, it's just, I mean, look at this. This is what the dude wrote. Free this week for a quick gossip prep before I go and destroy America? That's the question. Like a joke.
Starting point is 01:13:35 He's going here to have a fucking party. Like he's going to destroy America. Jesus Christ. And they checked the shovels. They sent them back home, man. What? Not only that, they arrested them, locked them up with Mexican drug dealers
Starting point is 01:13:48 that they also caught for 12 fucking hours. Because they're immigrants. They threw them in with the other immigrant criminals. They threw them in with Mexican drug dealers that they busted. So these guys were locked up with real hardcore criminals for 12 fucking hours. And then they flew them back to europe fucking soon
Starting point is 01:14:06 unbelievable it's unbelievable i mean really you can't have one rational person who looks at those two and giggles and it starts laughing his it was his what he writes also three weeks today we're totally in la pissing off people in hollywood boulevard and digging up Marilyn Monroe. Ha ha. He's joking around, man. Really? This is our tax dollars going to work? This is 2012. We're not talking about 1950, like we jumped into a time machine and all of a sudden they have Twitter in 1950.
Starting point is 01:14:35 What? They're going to destroy America. We've got to act now. I think it was just to set an example. Like, we're going to fuck anybody up that plays around. I think it's a bully and an abuse of power. That's what it is. I don't think it's an example. We're going to fuck anybody up that plays around. I think it's a bully and an abuse of power. That's what it is. I don't think it's an example at all. I think they knew these were kids and they could fuck
Starting point is 01:14:49 with them if they wanted to. I think they found someone to fuck with. They found someone to fuck with and then they did. It's really sad. They came here to have fun, you fuckheads. Jesus Christ. They checked them for fucking shovels. They're checking Twitter for joke things that you say.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Joke tweets about coming to America and getting fucked up. Like, do you really think that that's what a terrorist would write? Hmm, this week, free for a quick gossip before I go destroy America. Like, yeah, that's what you have to worry about? That's where our tax dollars are going? What do you think about Anonymous? Listen, man, somebody needs to stand up for this fucking... Stand up to this wacky world that we're living in, man.
Starting point is 01:15:30 And what anonymous represents is the internet. What the internet represents most of the time is justice. Most of what they go after, most of what they do is the right thing. There's a lot of shit going on like this Dana White thing where they're hacking into his social security and putting it all online. That that's douchey shit i heard it was fake i heard it was wrong no it wasn't fake they got the information but what they don't understand first of all that is his dad's name dana white as well and they got a lot a lot of the information they got was his dad's including like liens and you know where his dad used to live and now some other guy got harassed
Starting point is 01:16:04 because uh they you know because his information got put live and now some other guy got harassed because uh they you know because his information got put online so this guy like dana had to go to this guy's house and apologize to him but the kid is apparently a 13 year old kid from australia i mean he doesn't represent anonymous he represents people on the internet that don't like when people on the internet challenge them you know like you say you can't hack me i dare you they're gonna hack you yeah you know they're gonna fucking hack you but They're going to fucking hack you. But that's not what I like about Anonymous. What I like is that what it represents is people feel fucking helpless. They feel helpless to this gigantic oppressive power that is controlling the world and running
Starting point is 01:16:36 things in a way that they don't like. And when these guys go after Department of Homeland Security, all these different websites, when these guys try to take things down, what they're doing is they're lashing out and they're saying, hey, we can touch you. We can reach you. We can find your information. Like when they went after that guy that pepper sprayed all those fucking kids in the face, those kids at UC Berkeley that were just sitting on their knees. They got all that guy's information. They put that shit online.
Starting point is 01:16:58 That I like. That I like because that lets that guy know, hey, you can't do morally fucked up things because you're doing it under the blanket of your job, the umbrella of protection that you think has offered you by being a police officer. You're doing something reprehensible, man. You're spraying kids in the face with chemicals, you piece of shit. For no reason. Yeah, and you got to feel that, man. You got to feel that, man. And you know what, man?
Starting point is 01:17:20 I saw a video where the people were trying to justify, like, listen, this is what happened. This is the full story. What you saw was edited. And you know what they saw? They saw a video where the people were trying to justify. Like, listen, this is what happened. This is the full story. What you saw was edited. And you know what they saw? They saw the kids just sitting there for longer. Yeah, they didn't move when they were told to move. That doesn't mean you get to spray them in the fucking face. I heard there was some shit in, was it Oakland the other day?
Starting point is 01:17:36 And the cops were arrested, like, a crazy amount of people, like 120 or 30 people. But they were tear gassing. And there was, like, kids there. Like, one, I don't think it's probably the best idea to be bringing your kids to things like this. Yeah. But people are assholes for bringing their kids to these rallies because these things, they, things can break out in violence at any moment, especially in Oakland.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Oakland's kind of crazy, man. Too short. Yeah. Short dog. Um, yeah. Oakland is, is not to be fucked with, right? Oakland's a tricky place. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:07 That's been a hub for that shit for the last 40 years. They have no, you know, since they play it every year, that's where they go up there. These people know how to react to it. They're sick and tired of it too, you know? And it takes two to fucking tangle. But I love the idea of somebody checking somebody. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:23 I've always loved the idea. Listen, man, I grew up on fucking Death Wish. You know what? The cops can't be there for you all the fucking time. I love the idea of somebody blasting a motherfucker when you fucking do something wrong. And the internet's the best way. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 01:18:37 I think the internet is eventually going to be the government. That's what I think. I think the way that we're going to govern things is through the internet. Because instead of these oppressive groups that, see, what really fucks us is that we don't really get a say in everything. What we get to do is we get a representative. We get to choose a representative. And they almost all get into office and immediately just do whatever the fucking corporations that got them into power asked them to do. That's what they do immediately. They pass a bunch of bills like the National Defense Authorization Act that everybody's going crazy about that Obama passed, that he said he would veto.
Starting point is 01:19:09 All of that stuff is stuff. If you put that for vote to America, like online, what do you guys want to do? No fucking way we would vote for that. You can arrest us and detain us with no warrant. Because what people have to realize is the people that you're saying yes to today, when you make a law and you say, okay, here's the law, these people today may not be the same people you're saying yes to 20 years from now, or even 10 years from now. You can put laws into place that give evil, corrupt people. I'm not saying Obama's evil and corrupt, but I'm
Starting point is 01:19:40 saying what he did is an evil and corrupt thing. And he opened the door for evil and corruption, no doubt about it. Because if someone wants to do that, some future douchebag, some Dick Cheney of the future, if he gets into a position and the National Defense Authorization Act is in place, guess what? A bunch of people are gonna go to fucking jail that are just protesting the government. A bunch of people are gonna go to jail for obstructing the way the United States runs. They're gonna go to jail as enemies of the state.
Starting point is 01:20:04 That's real shit. None of that would take place if the internet was how we did our government. It sounds ridiculous, but why shouldn't it be that way? What our government is supposed to represent is what the people want. What the people want can easily be found out on the internet. It's easiest. The easiest way to contact people and find out exactly what the fuck they want, regardless of nationality, regardless of the state where they live in, is the Internet.
Starting point is 01:20:28 That is how things are going to be ruled. It used to be you had to go to a place, you had to write down what you thought and put it in a fucking box. And that's how they decided things. Because that was the only way to do it. The only problem with that, though, is there's more opportunity for hacking and things like that, unfortunately. Now, right now there is. Yeah. But you know what?
Starting point is 01:20:44 That can be worked that, unfortunately. Now, right now there is. Yeah. But you know what? That can be worked out too. And you know what? That's also, in part, a lot of that is in place also because of corruption. Look at the fucking computerized voting machines. Yeah. If you don't know about this, watch a documentary called Hacking Democracy. It was something that was on HBO a while back where they showed that these machines, these Diebold machines, are designed to be altered.
Starting point is 01:21:05 They're designed so that a third party can come in and change the results. And they're so fucked up they changed their name. Diebold doesn't even Diebold anymore. I'll find out what the fuck their names are now so you can't be tricked. But we live in a corrupt system. And what the internet recognizes is that the will of the people is not being represented. What's being represented is the corporations. And that's why everybody's hovering around all these fucking – I mean what this Occupy thing is.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Everyone's hovering and collecting and gathering together around all these sick areas. Yes. Yeah, man. Bullshit. We had Too Short on a podcast last night and it was really amazing short the rapper the rapper uh he has like 19 albums out but one of the cool things uh hearing him talk about was uh he started off so early in the game that people didn't even know what rap was and like he would just like open up his uh car doors to and like have like a beat playing and
Starting point is 01:22:03 just rap you know like really loud you know and with it and like one guys came up to end, like have like a beat playing and just rap, you know, like really loud, you know, with it. And like one guys came up to him. It's like, man, I like that. I want to have that.
Starting point is 01:22:11 And then he just popped the cassette and sold it to him for five bucks. And then he started selling it to like all the drug dealers want heard about it. And they're like, that lived in Oakland, like all the, the kingpin guys. And so they all wanted their own personalized rap, uh,
Starting point is 01:22:23 cassette. So then he was like making, like having to write all these songs like nonstop just to keep up with all these drug. How'd you guys have them on the podcast? Who knows them? We had Kevin Black on his sex tape guy who, you know, he's the one that gets all the sex tape, like the Paris Hilton sex tapes and stuff like that. He's one of the only guys that has even seen the Tupac's sex tape. And he's friends with him And he's friends with him. He's friends with him.
Starting point is 01:22:46 With two shorts. With two shorts. What's up with that Tupac sex tape? It's too sexy. White girls or African Americans? I don't know. I didn't ask. Why can't he release it?
Starting point is 01:22:58 Tupac's family? Yeah, I think it was a family thing. I think the powers would be... All right, Diebold's changed its name to Premier Election Solutions Incorporated, or P-E-S-I. That's the powers of the... All right, Diebold's changed its name to Premier Election Solutions Incorporated, or P-E-S-I. That's the new Diebold. Isn't it funny when companies do that? They get caught doing something fucked
Starting point is 01:23:11 up, so they just change their name. Yeah, we're evil, but whatever. Yeah, you got to. Blackwater did the same thing. They changed their name. What's their name now? I'll find out. How far do you think Anonymous can go? Do you think they could ever get shut down? No, it's impossible. The idea... I think a lot of people get you think Anonymous can go? Do you think they could ever get shut down? No, it's impossible.
Starting point is 01:23:29 The idea, because I think a lot of people get confused what Anonymous is. The whole point why they can't get shut down, because no one knows who the fuck they are. Can't they figure it out? There's tons of people, though. Won't they start arresting people? It would be the most impossible thing. That would be like trying to have an army put together that attacks the whole world. It would be like World War. For real, World War.
Starting point is 01:23:48 This is crazy. Blackwater's so fucked up they changed their name twice. They went from Blackwater to XE and then they went from XE to Academi with a new logo. They just keep changing their name. They figure just, no one's gonna know. Just keep changing it.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Stopping Anonymous would be like, yeah, they could spend all this money and time and they'll find some 13-year-old in Australia and then there's like a million other people behind that guy. What can they do to prosecute people that they catch and how far they can go as far as shutting things down and controlling the infrastructure.
Starting point is 01:24:20 That's what people are worried about with this SOPA. With this SOPA, what they're worried about, again, it's not the people you're saying yes to today. They might not be the same people you're saying yes to 20 years from now. And if you give the government the ability to just shut down websites, which, by the way, they already do. Look what they just did with Mega Upload. They just closed down Mega Upload. I'm so bummed about Mega Upload closing too.
Starting point is 01:24:40 It was a good website. Okay, but let's play devil's advocate. They closed Mega Upload because they said that Mega Upload has a bunch of different illegal files on it, like wares, and they have a bunch of movies and shit, screeners and MP3s. If there's a website, should, and if you're offering that service to people where they can just upload shit, and then you sell advertisement, which they do, right? Isn't that how they work, that shit? And they sell subscriptions?
Starting point is 01:25:03 I think if you have a free account, there's limitations and they serve advertising. I think they also have a paid account that I don't think has advertising. But I think what it is is that it shouldn't be the company's fault. It should be the user. So yes, they find dances with wolves on Mega Upload's server.
Starting point is 01:25:19 They find out who uploaded it. They bust him. I don't think it should be Mega Upload's fault for having a service where you can... It's legally, you're supposed to share files. Okay, but let's play devil's advocate. Let's play devil's advocate. Okay. If you do have a service where you're just sharing files and providing bandwidth, you should be responsible for how much of that stuff is pirated.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Because otherwise, you're a distribution angle. You're essentially a distribution highway for illegal shit. I think maybe, yes, you should be. But I think it should be more of like, I don't know. distribution angle you're you're essentially a distribution highway for illegal shit i think maybe yes you should be but i think it should be more of like i don't know sharing of uh personal information if you are doing something illegal should be allowed maybe sharing a person meaning like if if if the fbi comes to mega up low and goes look we know that you have dances with wolves on your server and they're like okay we need to know who this user is i think then mega upload should be like okay here's the person's information really you think they should give you up if you're doing illegal stuff i don't
Starting point is 01:26:13 think it should be mega uploads fault i don't think mega upload as a corporation should be shut down for a business because you want to share dance with wolves well you know better the corporation be shut down than the users going to jail that's the other devil's advocate is that these are just kids and they don't know any better and they think they're going to get away with it and they think they're just helping people out by providing files that everybody wants to get a hold of. You know, look, the real problem is people have kind of grown up knowing that they can get shit for free now. You know, that's like sort of how people feel.
Starting point is 01:26:41 They feel like shit is free. You know, hey, I can get movies for free. They joke around about it. I've had people joke around on my own website about stealing my shit online. They think it's cute. You know, yeah, I'll get the torrent, LOL. You know, and you're like, wow.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Like, right in front of you, knowing that you, I mean, I don't, it's just, it is what it is. That's who you want to be? That's all good. But it's like, they're so accustomed to stealing that they talk about it openly in front of the person's face on the website of the person who's selling the shit.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Yeah, but that's just called ignorance and stupidity. But yeah. But it's also they feel obligated, not obligated. They feel like they're entitled. You know what? It shouldn't be throwing people in prison. I don't think it should be like, yeah, you were sharing Dance of the Wolves with seven other people. And I don't think that person should go to prison for 20 years.
Starting point is 01:27:25 I think you should have some kind of thing like maybe, all right, you're not allowed to have the internet for a year. Well, that's the Kevin Mitnick punishment. That's what they did to him. But the real issue, Brian, is that that actually has crushed industries. Like look at the music industry. The music industry is fucked. One of the things that Dana White,
Starting point is 01:27:44 Dana White actually wants to come on the podcast, and he wants to talk about Soul, but he wants to talk about all the shit that happened. You know, I talked about interviewing him. I go, let me interview you for UFC.com. He goes, you know what would be better? Let's do your podcast. I said, all right, we'll do it.
Starting point is 01:27:55 That's cool. So we're going to figure out when to do it. And so, look, he's totally into free speech. He just doesn't want anybody ripping off his fucking product. And then, you know, the amount of piracy is so widespread that people were actually pirating streams and then showing them in bars and charging people to go to those bars to watch pirated streams there's definitely the cases like that that obviously that's that should be attacked well there's also people that put streams up and then they sell advertising they have google ads yeah and they actually you know
Starting point is 01:28:23 don't it's not just like a free thing they're making money off of the stream right you know that's that's a big there's a big difference between that that person who's putting that up there and making money from people you know thousands of people that are coming to the site and the person who's 14 years old can't afford the ufc who's downloading it for free yeah so that's what the real issue is what they're really what they're really concerned about is the people that are actually profiting off pirating their shit. And so it's a tricky thing. My take on it has always been that the internet, without a doubt, has promoted me and helped me more than anything. So the more people that have stolen my stuff means the more people who have enjoyed my stuff, which means the more people will come to see me.
Starting point is 01:29:03 The more people will come like this Chicago show or anything else. I mean, it's the purpose for... We could easily charge for this podcast. I mean, somebody would probably be willing to pay. We know a lot of people that make a lot of money every month because of their podcast. They have subscriptions where they have one extra podcast they do every month. But I think the best way to do it is to give as much people as much shit for free as possible. But that's also because we're live performers.
Starting point is 01:29:27 That's how we see it. We're live performers. The key for us is come out and see us, man. Devil's Advocate on the UFC thing is that, honestly, it's $60. And nowadays, there's like two or three UFCs a a month sometimes even to me i like the ufc to a bit like i i know if i was a hardcore ufc guy i would order every single it's a lot of money you know that's a lot i don't agree with you i mean i don't argue with you that's 180 dollars i think sometimes every week i think that if ufc was smart and a lot of these people would smart
Starting point is 01:30:00 they would do a subscription-based thing like you're paying 20 bucks a month you get everything ufc you know what else would be kind of dope? If they had it like the way HBO pay-per-view has it, where you, if you, like, don't want to watch Oscar de la Hoya fight or Floyd Mayweather fight on HBO pay-per-view, next week, the next Friday, it's for free on HBO. Yeah, that's a good idea. That would be pretty dope. I agree with that. You know, if, like, they had, like, huge cards, cards, like say Alistair Overeem fights Junior Dos Santos, and it's a big pay-per-view card, how about throw it on Fox the next Friday?
Starting point is 01:30:29 You know, you could watch a replay. And that way also they'll know that they're going to put on some badass fight. So if it's one of those fights that's not the most entertaining fight. I mean, live fights are much better, sure, for Fox. Maybe it's not Fox. Maybe it's an FX thing, showdown FX, the week after. Not a bad idea. But the thing about MMA is a lot of people buy the replays.
Starting point is 01:30:50 They'll buy it again, and they'll buy it later. They'll hear about how good it is, and they'll buy the replay. That probably is a venue thing. That kills it for about two weeks. What's that? That kills it about two weeks. So you've got to get all the money you can. What he was doing over the years is after a fight,
Starting point is 01:31:05 they would put it up to UFC Unleashed maybe six months in. Now they fucking put it up at UFC Unleashed a month later. Yeah, that's good. That's really fucking good. Yeah, that's good. So the fight, not this week, but let's say Nick Diaz against Nate Diaz against Cerrone. You know, I want to see that. It'll be on this month.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Yeah. That was New Year's. It'll be on this month. Yeah. That was New Year's. It'll be on first week of February. I miss all those Spike guys. Those guys were awesome. Well, you know, like I said, right now is the best time. Listen, right now is the best time ever for an MMA enthusiast. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:31:36 A guy like me. Look, I go home right now. I tape UFC tonight. I tape fucking Pride with Kendra Perez from 9 nine to ten which it's better than the uh the prides they were doing before they eliminated a lot of shit that you didn't need to see right and now they even cut it down they got crow cop against uh the russian i've been watching some attention yeah oh is that my house yeah my heads have almost exploded. Not to mention, you know, you got the roundtable with Jay. You got, you know, late night fucking UFC Reloaded,
Starting point is 01:32:12 which those are fucking lightning quick. Okay, so let's see the Ben Henderson fight against Frank Yeager's the 25th. It'll be on by the last week of March. Plus, you got fucking, they got the contract on Spike until the end of 2012. So on Wednesdays, you can watch fucking all fights all fucking day. And you know Spike,
Starting point is 01:32:30 anything that fucking FX does now, they counter it. Like this week, they had all of Rashad's fights. Believe it or not, a couple people fucking watched that shit. I think it's good. This is good.
Starting point is 01:32:39 I'm fucking happy. I don't miss a fucking thing. My DVR is UFC Reloaded, UFC Tonight. You know, tonight is the countdown at 6 o'clock fucking Pacific, 9 o'clock Eastern. They're giving you a ton of fucking MMA. Why you got to fucking steal something for?
Starting point is 01:32:54 What the fuck you got to steal something for? Now, what else can they fucking give you? On the music tip, what I found for me personally, like with iTunes and Torrance, is not only because people, I mean, the whole industry, the record industry just fell apart, but what's happening, and I know they gotta feel this, but I'm buying all my old shit on iTunes. I don't wanna pull out the CDs
Starting point is 01:33:18 and load them into my computer and then upload them to my iPod. I just wanna get on my phone, and I think of a song that I already have from my old record collection. I'm rebuying all my old shit. What about that? You know, I know, you know, we're not buying as many CDs, but I think people are buying
Starting point is 01:33:34 all the old shit. I bought Stairway to Heaven about 30 times in my life. Yeah, there's definitely a few CDs I've bought 10 times. Right? I don't want to. I don't want to. I know you can get it for free somewhere, but I know people just like let me go iTunes 99 cents make it so you have money you know for like really poor college kids they do exactly that but
Starting point is 01:33:52 they go to a where site or they go to a torrent you know the good bit does even where sites anymore it's so cheap even on iTunes yet they finally fucking said yeah there's a couple bands that still to this day. They were just got on it recently Pink Floyd a couple bands. Well, why not? I don't understand. I don't know weird You know those old motherfuckers are set in 1970 So I think just like like Red Band said when it's something that you can download illegally like music or movies or anything that you can download illegally like music or movies or anything, just sell it for as cheap as possible
Starting point is 01:34:28 so that you got to sell it so that it's not worth going and downloading. Well, that's what Louis C.K. did. When Louis C.K. did, he sold his whole special for five bucks. You'll get that money. You'll get that money. I will never spend $180 on a UFC a month,
Starting point is 01:34:41 but if I were the option for 20 bucks a month and I got everything, I would do it even if I never watched option for $20 a month and I got everything, I would do it even if I never watched it. $20 a month. Listen, man, what Louis C.K. did... Bitch, you crazy.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Well, that's because they get a lot more people. Yeah, but you're just used... They get a lot more people. They get a lot more people. You're just so used to a pricing structure that was created by boxing
Starting point is 01:34:57 in the 80s because pay-per-view was so amazing back then. Ryan, if you had... What? If you had any idea how much it cost to put on a production,
Starting point is 01:35:03 you would understand why they have to charge so much. It's ridiculous. Yeah, but if you have $20, you'd sell more. Ryan, if you had any idea how much it costs to put on a production, you would understand why you have to charge so much. It's ridiculous. Yeah, but if you had 20 bucks, you'd sell more. No, you wouldn't. You wouldn't sell enough to compensate. I don't think so. What Louis C.K. did, Joe Rogan, was the most brilliant thing a comedian has done in 20
Starting point is 01:35:16 years. Yeah, he gambled his own money. He's like anonymous. He checked everybody. Yeah, he checked the whole system. Comedy Central got checked. iTunes got checked. By the way, I'm doing the same thing.
Starting point is 01:35:25 I'm working on it right now. You have to. I'm thinking about doing it in Atlanta in April. That's my plan. You have to. What, it gave it away for free or something? Five dollars for a DVD. But here's the beauty of it, man.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Everybody benefited on this, but nobody benefited as much as the fans. Louis did it for his fans. Yeah. Five bucks for a download. Is that what it was? Yeah. Or for the actual hard copy? I think you get a download. Well, that's all you need. That's all you need. Yeah. Five bucks for a download. Is that what it was? Yeah. Or for the actual hard copy? I think you get a download.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Well, that's all you need. That's all you need. Yeah. That's it. I think you get to download it more than once, too. Make it so cheap that they can't refuse. What did he make on it? What's the number?
Starting point is 01:35:54 Who knows? It was a million dollars after 10 days. And that's the idea of the UFC 20 bucks a month thing. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they would do it that way. It's not ready for 20 a month. No.
Starting point is 01:36:03 They're two years, three years away. But I think that a subscription, like a monthly subscription, is not a bad idea. You know, that would be pretty cool. Sure. And you get everything. You get the webpage. You get the, what's the club? What's the fight club?
Starting point is 01:36:13 Fight club. Fight club. Don't they have like a thing that they do that with the NFL? They have NFL packages that you get on DirecTV. Yes. You get like all the games. All the games. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:21 They make a ton of fucking money. Well, you know, they came real close to having a UFC channel. They were going to have a UFC fucking channel at one point in time. They were thinking about buying a Spike TV or something along those lines and starting their own channel. And that might very well be the future. Who knows? After they're done with the Fox deal or they might do it with Fox.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Who knows how all this comes together? The Fox things are strange, man. It's the same, but it's not the same. It's the same, but there's all this extra together. You know, the Fox things are strange, man. It's the same, but it's not the same. It's the same, but there's like all this extra talking. You know, I see all this sitting around the desk and all this shit, and I watched it, and I was like, I feel like, you know, the way we did it Spike style, they could slide in another fight. You know, there's some badass fights in that undercard, man.
Starting point is 01:36:59 You know, they could have slid in that Charles Oliveira. Cub Swanson. Cub Swanson. I knock out, yeah. Fucking a ton of shit that we could have slid in there. Yeah, they could have slid something that Charles Oliveira. Cub Swanson. Cub Swanson. Knock out, yeah. Fucking a ton of shit that we could have slid in there. Yeah, they could have slid something in there instead of everybody talking. I would rather not talk other than, you know, I mean, look, everybody knows what it is.
Starting point is 01:37:11 I'll hype it up in the beginning and everything like that, but I want to get that fucking walk-in going. Let's go, baby. Let's go. You know, I can hype everything up plenty while these dudes are walking into the octagon. I can answer any questions or propose any possible scenarios. I just want the fucking fight to take place i say the less talking the better but i think they're used to like
Starting point is 01:37:28 desks and shit fox is used to like dudes with paper in front of them let's go over this it's crazy listening to the super bowl that's super bowl music with ufc they get mad that's not super bowl music. That's Fox Sports music. Well, that's the music you hear. They get all crazy. By the way, Joe Diaz, your special is $5. Yes. We should mention that.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Yes, but let me tell you something. The first card. It's me or the priest, right? Yes, it's either you or the priest. The first card. How do they get that? Payloads. Payloads.
Starting point is 01:38:00 But hold on. Payloads what? I like the UFC, bro. And I like what they do. As a fan, I like what they do. I really like everything about it. You know, when I watch fucking Showtime, I got to lower the fucking volume, okay? And when I watch Fox, I don't mind Kenny Florian there.
Starting point is 01:38:15 The other guy is like a miniature fucking Joe Rogan with his little haircut and his little fucking suit. He looks like Joe Rogan on news radio. He looks like Joe Rogan on news radio. All he needs is a pointy fucking sideburns, right? But it's so weird that, what the fuck was I talking about? Anyway. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:38:29 The first Fox fight was a fucking nightmare. We went to it. You were kind enough to give myself and Eddie tickets. First off, the fight started at 6. Nothing happened until 6.40. That's too much, Joe Rogan. I can't sit there for 40 minutes when I'm psyched up. Everybody else is talking.
Starting point is 01:38:46 At least now, they're giving you three fucking fights. Live, especially live. Live. 40 minutes we sat there. No national anthem, no peanuts. Nobody get down here and give you a fucking drink. We didn't know what to do. You can't get up.
Starting point is 01:38:57 You can't pee. We don't know when the fucking next fight is. Yeah, they didn't treat it the way we always treat a regular live event. But the last two have been tremendous. This last one was beautiful. I taped the Fox thing. I taped the Fuel. But isn't it crazy that the main fights, except for the Bisping-Sunnet fight, which is pretty exciting,
Starting point is 01:39:11 the main fights weren't as exciting as the fights in the undercard. Bro, it's the curse of Fox. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to crawl. The curse of fucking Fox. No, it'll be fine. Look, that FX fight. That Melvin Gillard, Jim Miller fight.
Starting point is 01:39:25 That was tremendous. That was bad. Jim Miller's a fucking animal, dude. Jim Miller's an animal. God damn that dude. Dude, Melvin was lighting him up. He was. We've never seen Jim Miller.
Starting point is 01:39:35 He caught him with some shots. Yeah. Jim Miller can take it, though, man. He can take it. And the way he took that back. Woo! He dove on that back mount, man. I've always been scary from those guys from that side of the woods in Jersey.
Starting point is 01:39:47 They come out to Creedence Clearwater and shit like that. Bum, bum, ba-dum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Close to Pennsylvania. Those motherfuckers will kill you, dog. That other side of New Jersey. That's the woods. I love it. You might as well be living in Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:40:00 You might as well be living in Georgia. There's good people over there. Yeah, that's fucking different up there. Wyckoff, wherever the fuck he's from. Yeah, that's fucking different He hunts all the time Wyckoff Wherever the fuck he's from Yeah that's a different angle Yeah Jim Miller's a hunter You know
Starting point is 01:40:09 You don't think of that When you think of Jersey Like outdoorsman hunters You got the Jersey Shore You got those crazy Fucking mountain men And you got Northern New Jersey That's it
Starting point is 01:40:17 You got Milburn Yeah totally different Three different fucking Continents in one The Jersey Shore They're just passing off VD I give Dude I just I just started watching Jersey Shore, and I fucking love it.
Starting point is 01:40:31 I fuck Snooki and Dina. Oh, my God. You love it? For real? I'm addicted to it. Why? Because they're so retarded. I love watching.
Starting point is 01:40:43 I mean, Snooki and Dina are the female versions of Beavis and Butthead. And they're like, for real. They're actually alive. You know, it's not animation. These are real people. No, but Eddie, they're set up. It's fake reality. Sometimes.
Starting point is 01:41:02 Well, whatever it is. Hold on. Did you see Snooki get punched? That shit was not fake. That was real. That was what? Season one or season two? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:10 But yeah, but the majority of the shit now is like, hey, we're going to put Snooki inside this barbershop and this barbershop is super gay because we casted him gay, you know, and it's just going to be ridiculous. Yeah. And it's completely fake. And you know what's even worse about the whole fucking Jersey Shore thing? It's that new movie, Three Stooges. How many? This is a classic franchise that's been
Starting point is 01:41:27 rebooted. In the trailer, fucking Snooki's in it. I love Snooki. This is disturbingly disgusting. I love her. I just want her to talk. Her and Dina? Oh my god. Dina is her best friend. She's amazing. It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:41:45 All they do every episode is, there's going to be a part in the episode where they're all getting ready to go out and they're all doing their fucking hair and putting on their makeup. They go to Karma and it's the same shit. You know what's crazy about it is, they are so retarded
Starting point is 01:42:00 that you would think with all the cameras, with all the cameras and all their fame, that they would have girls crawling all over them. The girls would? You would think the guys would have girls crawling all over them. But it's not what you think. It's like girls don't want to go back to that house and be on TV. They're going to get fucked. Not only are they going to get fucked, they're going to look like losers.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Yeah, it's incredible. They go out and sometimes they don't get pussy. They're going to get fucked. Not only are they going to get fucked, they're going to look like losers. It's incredible. They go out and sometimes they don't get pussy. They got cameras all over them and they're super famous. They have fucking bad nights and the girls are banging on regular fucking skeezes that they've
Starting point is 01:42:39 been banging for a long time. They're incredible. What do you think about Big Edge though? You you know what as good as jersey shore is as good as jersey shore is the best show on tv nothing fucks with mob wives dude if you haven't watched mob wives go fuck yourself that is the big watch that you watch you gotta watch you gotta watch it many times did you watch you know the problem is i knew too many of those women. Those women that knew guys that were in and they would fucking threaten you. I'll fucking make one phone call right now. These bitches are just fighting each other every episode.
Starting point is 01:43:15 They have money. They're in their 40s. You would think they would have some class. But they're like, fuck you. The last episode. You need to go on their Twitters. Oh, yeah, I do. I follow all of them.
Starting point is 01:43:26 The one with the wife, the one who's divorced, and she keeps calling her ex-husband. This man disrespected me. Which one? Dorita? The fat one with the big head. Oh.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Oh, wait a minute. She had that big Ralphie May head. Is her husband out of jail or in jail? Her husband divorced her. I don't know. I think he was about to go to jail again. The dark one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:41 That's Renee. He's Puerto Rican. Renee, she looks like Skeletor. He's Puerto Rican. He's Puerto Rican. Yeah. How's that's a really good he's Puerto Rican yeah how's he in the mob he's Puerto Rican her father they're saying married they're saying that she married or he married Renee to get into the mob that's what they're saying his name is Hector jr. really how many fucking Italians you know the name is Hector yeah he Yeah, he's cute. But what happened was, remember
Starting point is 01:44:05 we had this discussion the other day. I read her Twitter. Staten Island was a fucking garbage dump run by the fucking Indians. That's where they put the Indians after they threw them out of New York. Then they decided, fuck, we got this property over there. Let's build on fucking Staten Island with garbage. God hell. So it was all just garbage? It used to, half
Starting point is 01:44:21 of it was a dump. That's why when you're driving, I mean bro, it's 20 minutes from Jersey that way. That's when they give you, they put you this. I'll tell you what, Staten Island, to me, when doing all, like, when I used to do gigs in New York, Staten Island had the most unfriendly environment. Yes. There was one club on Staten Island, Grandpa's. Grandpa's.
Starting point is 01:44:38 That was, wasn't that Al Lewis's joint? They wouldn't give you a seat for your girlfriend. You would show up with your girlfriend. They would like, could she sit down in the back? No. Your seats are for customers. Like, wow. Like, your performers, like, they don't even have, like, a little site,
Starting point is 01:44:51 a little spot where the performer can sit down or your girlfriend can sit down. Like, they would want you to, you know, go stand outside, stupid. You're not a part of the show. It was just a weird vibe. Listen, I went to Sand Island one time because I got sick and tired of going to Harlem. If they caught you getting weed in Harlem on the way back from Jersey, they would confiscate your car because you were interstate transporting over federal lines. Those bridges and that tunnel, yeah, they're cute.
Starting point is 01:45:15 But if they catch you bringing drugs over, your car gets confiscated. Yeah, that's how it is in California too. So that's what happened there. So you had to go into George Washington Washington and come back to the Lincoln Tunnel. After every day, you get sick of going over there for weed. They said the Jamaicans had gone to Staten Island, okay? There's a Jamaican neighborhood in Staten Island. They sell the best.
Starting point is 01:45:35 So one day in 94, me and my buddy go over there. No biggie. We drive in. We're looking for black people. We can't fucking find them. We can't find no dreads. I can't smell no fucking incense. I can't smell no fucking incense. I can't do nothing.
Starting point is 01:45:48 And all of a sudden, what do I see? I see 20 fucking guidos on a corner with white t-shirts on, with white shoes on, pinky rings the whole thing. I pull up at the light and they're like, who are you looking for? Nothing. We're looking for a little... Pull over. Pull over. Come on over here. Before you know it, I had 20 Italians
Starting point is 01:46:04 around me. Yeah, what are you looking for? I want a 20. All right, park the fucking car and go into the fucking pizza place and somebody will come up. Okay, I parked the car at my buddy. You know what? I'm hungry. I go to the pizza place. Guy comes in.
Starting point is 01:46:16 What do you want? I want a 20. Okay, listen, from now on, when you come over here, you see fucking whatever his name was, Angelo, okay? You ask for Angelo, no problem. Okay. One day it snows a month later. You know what? his name was, Angelo, okay? You ask for Angelo, no problem. Okay. One day it snows a month later. You know what?
Starting point is 01:46:28 I don't want to go into the city. Let's go into Staten Island real quick. The weed wasn't bad. I pull up. I don't see Angelo. I don't see nobody. I see 20 fucking guineas. I don't know none of them.
Starting point is 01:46:37 I pull over. I go in the pizza place. Within 15 minutes, I had 15 Italians in there, three of them with bats. What are you doing here? We're disrespecting. We are you doing here disrespecting? We told you when you come up here, you got a C'Angelo. You weren't asking for Louie. I didn't ask for nobody.
Starting point is 01:46:50 I asked for a fucking slice of pizza. It was an hour and a half drama to get a $20 bag of wheat. Where's the wheat? Do you know where the wheat is? I don't know where the wheat is. Do you know where the wheat is? And I was like, you know what? It was too much for me, bro.
Starting point is 01:47:02 That angry Italian Staten that island vibes a bad vibe the pizza was delicious the bread was delicious everything was great but i never went back over there and that's what i see when i watch my wife there's spots like that it's not comfortable who you with that's the first thing they ask you and this is why i want to see good father good father to godfather too who you with that's the first thing they ask you. I'm not with nobody. I came with Eddie. No, no. We don't know Eddie Bravo.
Starting point is 01:47:28 Who you with? And that was, by the way, reinforced by all those shitty mob movies. You know, so many people got into it. Exactly. Bronx Tale and all these different. Bronx Tale wasn't bad. Living with Godfather, too. It wasn't bad, but I mean, the vibe of it.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Godfather 2 is the greatest movie of all time. They were all great movies. There's a great, a bunch of them. Listen, let me tell you something. Godfather 2, and I forgot to tell you something. It's better than the fucking, it's the first movie ever. That's better than the first one. Not to me, because Marlon Brando is rock over fucking everything.
Starting point is 01:47:53 You know what I'm saying? He's rocking. When he told that motherfucker at the table that, you know what? I'm due of all this situation here. My son has to come back. But if for some unfortunate fucking situation, he should be struck by a bolt of lightning or he should be hanged in his fucking jail cell i will blame the people at this table and that i will not fucking forgive that's the greatest speech at
Starting point is 01:48:16 the top of it all yeah the problem is every stupid he didn't know his line douchebag wants to be that guy no marlon brando was beautiful the studio listen marlon brando was the first man ever marlon brando was one of my idols because he told hollywood to suck his dick he went down i think he told a lot of men to suck his dick yeah he did i think i have a photo of it he went down a mutiny on the bounty he went down a mutiny on the bounty and bought a island nobody's Nobody's ever bought an island. Nobody's ever been that fucking quick. Tyler Perry. After now. But this was 1970.
Starting point is 01:48:49 It was motherfucking. And then impregnated half the women on that island. All of them are named Marlon. Every fucking kid on that island is Marlon Brando. That was part of living on the island. You got to suck my dick. Where was this island? It was off the fucking coast of Hawaii or wherever he shot that thing. Island of Dr. Moreau.
Starting point is 01:49:02 Bro, Warner Brothers went down there, wherever the fucking people were, and looked at the tapes. And they're like, what is this? You're shooting birds and pigeons? Where you been? Where the fuck you been for the last month? He's like, dog, I've been fucking these Hawaiian chicks up the ass. I'm having a great fucking time.
Starting point is 01:49:16 Saw him when The Godfather came along. They didn't want him. They're like, this guy wasted millions of fucking dollars. Yeah, put that up here. Put that up here, Brian. Yeah, you sure? Yeah, put that up. Put that up. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Oh, you can't do it on Ustream, right? But if you just Google Marlon Brando sucking dick, it's actually an artistic shot that Marlon did. But artistic with two quotations. That's how deep the motherfucker was. And he doesn't even look that fat back then. That sperm kills the fucking sperm. Listen, I got a boogie with Stu. I love you, cocksucker.
Starting point is 01:49:43 I'll see you Thursday night. I gotta go for my knee at 6 up at the bob hope fucking center to get everything in shape don't forget payloads don't forget fucking payloads l-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o I bought you a camera, cocksucker, so I want 10 points. I want a lens. They bought you a camera. I want a fucking lens, cocksucker. See you Thursday, brother. And Friday night, we're going to have a good time. House of Blues, Vegas, Mandalay Bay, Duncan Trussell, Joe Diaz, me, the whole pile. One more thing I wanted to talk about before we get out of here, because this is pretty fucking fascinating shit.
Starting point is 01:50:20 You know, we talked about the problem in the ocean, that big pile of plastic that they have. Yeah, the garbage patch. They just found a mushroom in the Amazon that eats indestructible plastics. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:35 It's pretty fucking nuts, man. So we're going to throw a bunch of mushrooms on it and then the water is going to be all trippy and we're all going to die. It eats polyurethane, man. The mushroom is called Petalotiopsis
Starting point is 01:50:47 Petalotiopsis Microspora Pestalotiopsis Pestalotiopsis Microspora Why do they have to name them? What's up with the Latin? Let it go, bitch. It's 2012. You know, awesome plastic eating mushroom. That's the official name. It's spelled P-E-S-T-A-L-O-T-I-O-P-S-I-S micro S-P-O-R-A.
Starting point is 01:51:21 So it's a resident of the Ecuadorian rainforest and was discovered by a group of student researchers led by molecular biochemistry professor Scott Strobel as a part of Yale's annual rainforest expedition and laboratory. You know, they go down there, man. They have these scientists and these researchers go down there. And every now and then they'll find some fucking crazy shit. There's like all sorts of medicines that have come out of the rainforest incredible psychedelic drugs all kinds of nutty fucking things and they're chewing that bitch up
Starting point is 01:51:49 every day so the mushroom like disintegrates the the the plastics or what's it do it eats it it's able to it's the first fungus species well it absorbed you know mushrooms absorb things you know it's really like they're they're the the it karma. It's like karma free living the way mushrooms live. They literally live in shit. You know, they live the most humble life possible. But there it's a living organism. It's the first fungus species to able to to be able to survive exclusively on polyurethane. So it lives on fucking indestructible plastic.
Starting point is 01:52:23 And more importantly, it's able to do that in anaerobic conditions, meaning the same conditions found in the bottom of landfills. And this makes this fungus a prime candidate for bioremediation projects that could finally provide an alternative to just burying plastic and hoping for the best. I wonder how long the process takes. Are we talking about 30 years? Probably a billion years, but at least it's better than what the plan's now.
Starting point is 01:52:48 Now they need to find some shit that eats nuclear waste. It's probably in the Amazon. It's probably a frog. It's probably Snooki. It's a frog. They're going to give it this frog. It's going to eat nuclear waste, and then it's going to become fucking Godzilla.
Starting point is 01:53:00 Oh, no. There goes Tokyo. Go, go, Godzilla. Denny Propagos, you want to step up to the mic? Want to be on the podcast here, son? This is Go go Godzilla Denny Propagos You wanna step up to the mic? Wanna be on the podcast here son? This is our boy Denny We've known Denny since he was a little child
Starting point is 01:53:11 Since he was a small boy And now he's a black belt World champion First 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu black belt The viewers have been looking at his feet For the last two hours They are sexy feet Headphones son
Starting point is 01:53:22 So everybody knows That you know what you sound like. Kohala, it's good. At the Gracie Nationals this past Sunday, not only did 10th Planet get the first place team title for the Gracie Nationals,
Starting point is 01:53:35 but Danny also got first place in his division. Fucking hell. Tapping out two black belts. He twistered a Joe Marrera black belt and he guillotined UFC star Dan Phan in 29 seconds. Danny had a, he capped off an epic day for 10th Planet. That was a flying guillotine?
Starting point is 01:53:55 You got him in a flying one? Jumped up? No, no, no, no. He shot in for a single leg on my right leg, and I just wrapped his neck, and I drove my hips in. He fell back. I hooked his right leg with a triangle, stepped over with my right leg, crossed my feet, arched my hips, looked up.
Starting point is 01:54:11 Nice. It was amazing, man. Geetian's nasty. Yeah, we've known Denny since, what were you like, a purple belt when you started training with Eddie? Blue belt? Blue.
Starting point is 01:54:20 Blue belt? Yeah. But I started, actually, no, I started training with Eddie when I was in Orange Belt. So that's like little kids, right? Yeah, I was 15. Damn. Wow.
Starting point is 01:54:31 Tell them about our first private lesson. He lives in San Francisco. He's been there the whole time. I'm in LA. I had just opened up. I had my first school open for maybe two years. And I'll never forget. I'll never forget when it was after our
Starting point is 01:54:46 tournament me and a couple well-known jiu-jitsu players were in the parking lot smoking some weed in our car and here's this little kid like two cars away just standing there looking at us and we're like trying to hide the weed like oh no there's a kid there hide the weed we're like hiding the weed and he knew exactly what we're doing like uh and then we uh he lives in san francisco yeah he drove down for the different san francisco kids learn about weed when they're three dude it's been legal there for like 30 years yeah i got it gives a fuck i got the first time i got offered a smoke was i was in fourth grade there was this so tell us about tell us about uh your first experience, like, remember your birthday and all that kind of stuff? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:27 So for, was it my 15th birthday? My brother and I, we were going to go down to this Greek convention. It was like this Greek dancing thing. And I'm like, all right, I want to take it private with Eddie, you know? And he taught me the rubber guard back then. He actually taught me London and taught me the invisible collar, the basic path and taught me some twister stuff, taught me the meat hook. And I basically went back and all the stuff I videotaped it. He is. He had his brother drive down from San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Yeah, that was pretty cool. That's pretty crazy. I had this kid and I usually don't do privates, but this kid shows up, and I'm like, you know what, I like to save all my energy for my group classes. I really don't have energy for privates, really just rarely do I give them. And he comes down, you know, this 15-year-old kid, drove all the way from Frisco. I'm like, okay. And he ended up, I knew right there knew right there right I knew that this guy
Starting point is 01:56:26 there was something special about him I knew that I mean if he's willing to drive all the way down from San Francisco to take a private that he's down for life this guy was yeah that's most the most important thing that anybody could ever show is just if you want to be successful at something you have to be really fucking dedicated to it really dedicated and doing something like that come all the way down from san francisco that shows and it never waver because even to this day to this day i'm not just saying this to this day he's he's definitely the most decorated 10th planet uh competitor yeah he's definitely he's won the most uh titles he's competed the most at the highest levels in straight grappling. I have guys that have done MMA, and they've done well, like Scott Epstein and all.
Starting point is 01:57:10 But pure grappling, Denny has done the most. And it's because he drills and practices way more than anybody I know. I mean, he's a jiu-jitsu fanatic. Not only does, like yesterday, we're rolling. We're rolling, and every move, every little trick I had, even the latest shit, the latest tricks, he would call it out. He would tell me what I was thinking. Nobody can do that.
Starting point is 01:57:37 Nobody can break down the 10-planet system like Denny. Tell me exactly how I'm planning to trick him. I've never had anybody do that. He was calling everything out. It was fucking me up. Like, holy shit, this guy is reading my mind. He studies the 10th planet system like no one else, and he studies all the new games that are coming up,
Starting point is 01:57:55 like all the 50-50 stuff, all the leg lock, all the latest stuff that the Brazilians are coming up with, like Rafael Mendes and Cabrinha, all the Spiral and De La Riva. This guy studies it like he has OCD. Well, he's just obsessed. He's definitely focused. It's so important to be around people like that.
Starting point is 01:58:15 In life, there's always people that are willing to take things to another level, that are learning quicker than everybody else, that have more passion. It's so important. So important. And it rubs off on his students. Check this out. For sure. I had maybe about seven or eight of my schools compete at the tournament,
Starting point is 01:58:30 and his school, the San Francisco school, by far did the best. They were 12-1. He had four guys competing, 12-1, and the one loss was in the finals. It was like a 30-minute match. 37-minute match. And the guy lost, but it was incredible. He didn't even tap. He went to sleep.
Starting point is 01:58:47 That's incredible, though, 37 minutes. That's amazing. I mean, he's got incredible students, like future stars, like Adam Satchinoff. We call him Big Red. Adam Satchinoff is 230 pounds. His rubber guard is insane. And he's got black belt-level guillines and Darcy's and Japanese necktie.
Starting point is 01:59:06 And then Mike Hillerbrand and Travis. Travis Magalette, yeah. That's awesome. He's got some crazy students. And by the way, if you're in San Francisco, Danny, how did they find your place? Because a lot of people already come to your place because of the podcast, right? Yes, yes, yes. Your podcast has helped.
Starting point is 01:59:22 Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. How did they get there? Yes, yes. Your podcast has helped. Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. How did they get there? We're on 333 Valencia Street, Suite 100, inside Valencia Street Muscle, the gym.
Starting point is 01:59:31 And my website is 10thplanetjujitsusf.com. And for folks who, you know, look, I get emails, I get Twitter messages all the time saying, thank you, I started doing jiu-jitsu because of the podcast. For people who think you can't do it, if your body works, you body works you can do it all right you don't have to go in there and jump in there with killers you take beginning classes you learn some technique and it's fun and you know what man you just gotta you gotta be able to be tapped out when when you get tapped out just tap just tap and go right back in and figure out what you did wrong and learn and it is a vehicle for developing your whole life all martial
Starting point is 02:00:05 arts are you know they're when you get through difficult things a lot of people never physically get pushed they don't they don't understand what it feels like they don't understand what it's like to to to really exert yourself and to try hard and to grow and accomplish to to accomplish you know something to learn some new techniques to to develop and advance. It's so important for everything that you do. When you get really good at something as difficult as jiu-jitsu, it makes everything in your life better. And when we say anybody can do it, that's not a sales pitch. Anybody can do it.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Little girls, little five-year-old, six-year-old girls do jiu-jitsu. Old ladies do jiu-jitsu. Anybody can do it. You know, contrary to popular belief, you go to jujitsu school, it's not these barbaric animals that want to rip your arm off. It's the opposite. Mostly nerds. Yeah, it's mostly computer nerds.
Starting point is 02:00:59 Our classes are mostly like computer nerds who will kill you. Yeah, exactly. Computer nerds that are addicted to gaming. Like Cade. Like if you didn't know Cade Computer nerds that are addicted to gaming. Like Cade. Like if you didn't know Cade, you know. Cade Nelson. You look at Cade, Cade Nelson. He's wicked.
Starting point is 02:01:10 His jiu-jitsu's wicked. And he's a very small guy. He's like 140 pounds at the most, right? He's not a big guy. He's 130. Black belt. Nasty technique. Nasty technique.
Starting point is 02:01:20 But if you look at him, he's like all skin and bones, man. He's the nicest guy on the planet. Nicest guy. But if you look at him, he's like all skin and bones man is the nicest guy nice this guy You know, it's it's totally not a bunch of Killers who just you know, literally yes, you learned jujitsu you you are learning how to kill people but they're not animals I mean people they're like like really cool nice folks, you know, like so many of them like Brent You know you look at Brent like what a nice looking guy Like he seems like Just a normal Real friendly
Starting point is 02:01:46 Nice to everybody Yeah Choke your fucking lights out The sport itself What it What's going on What makes it so much fun Is a filter for douchebags
Starting point is 02:01:55 Yeah Because in the sport of Jiu Jitsu You're gonna The sport is The game plan is To tap someone out To put someone in a position In a choke hold
Starting point is 02:02:04 Or an arm bar. None of it hurts. You just tap out when you feel like you can't get out, and you tap out, give up, and then the guy lets go of the hold. So that's like a kill for you. No one got hurt, but you tapped out. You couldn't get out. Douchebags can't walk through the fire, those beginning stages where they're getting tapped out, they're losing the game, because they take it too personally everybody has an ego But douchebags have the biggest egos so they can't go into jiu-jitsu
Starting point is 02:02:32 And and go through the learning phases where they're losing where they're tapping out losing a game of death You know they can't handle it So they never even get to jiu-jitsu the only guys that make it through are the guys that have a complete control of their ego where they tap out in the beginning all the time you're always losing in the beginning you're just tapping out it doesn't hurt you're tapping out but your ego can get bruised if you don't have control of it so what ends up happening is jujitsu is is the ultimate douchebag filter you're left with a bunch of guys that were had no problem tapping out and no problem submitting no problem dealing with reality because the reality is every dickhead wants to think that he's the fucking man every guy wants to think that you know there's so many guys like bro if i got
Starting point is 02:03:15 into mma i'm tell you right now i'm not into that mma but if i get into i'll fucking be running shit yeah fuck gsp i'm a natural born fighter. Some dudes are just natural. And those guys, they can't handle jiu-jitsu because some little K dude will choke their fucking lights out. And that's also why those guys are scared of weed. Hollow. Especially edibles. Edibles expose your douchiness
Starting point is 02:03:38 as well. Meanwhile, edibles are the best things to roll on. I don't like edibles. You just never know how much TH you're getting. We talked about this before. You still don't know what that is either. Lately, I've been on a good roll with these strips.
Starting point is 02:03:54 I just like a couple pops before I teach. I'm all good. I don't need to get crazy. You guys ever try the Gold Mist? No. A mist? It's like a breath thing. How is it? It's like a breath thing. You tried it? Yeah. How is it? Pretty good. Yeah. It's amazing.
Starting point is 02:04:08 But eventually they're going to have like fucking filtration systems and air conditioning where you come into work and just get high. What about the new vapor pens? What is that? Oh, like old school, like they look like those magic cigarettes. Yeah, the cigarettes. Electronic cigarettes. Yeah, they're like soaked
Starting point is 02:04:23 in THC and there's zero smell. No smell at all. You probably shouldn't talk about that because someday you're going to want to use those in some place. Meanwhile, they're monitoring Twitter, these cunts. Yeah, I used to have the electronic ones, but they weren't accurate. It seemed like you just suck on them for a while and you're like, I'm not getting anything. This is bullshit. Eventually, this is all going to be legal.
Starting point is 02:04:45 We're battling it right now. Here's some crazy shit that was on MSNBC, msnbc.com. It's from Reuters. In London, these scientists did these studies on people tripping on magic mushrooms, and it's given them the best picture yet of how psychedelic drugs work. And these British scientists are saying the findings suggest that such drugs could be used to treat depression. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:07 I mean, it's amazing. This is all becoming mainstream shit one after the other. Over and over and over again, there's these studies that are coming to light now that are suggesting that all these different drugs, ketamine, they're saying that ketamine can be used as an instant cure for depression. And one of the reasons why kids get addicted to ketamine is the first thing that ketamine does is alleviate all your worries. Like that's one of the reasons why people are doing it.
Starting point is 02:05:29 So now they're suggesting that ketamine can be used as some sort of an antidepressant, as some sort of an instant antidepressant quality, as well as psilocybin. Two separate studies, the effects of psilocybin, the active ingredient in magic mushroom, showed that contrary to scientists' expectations, which of course is based on propaganda,
Starting point is 02:05:48 it does not increase but rather suppress activity in areas of the brain that are also dampened with other antidepressant treatments. So they don't even understand it. It's like they're saying that psychedelics are thought of as mind-expanding drugs, so it's kind of been assumed that they work by increasing the brain's activity but they don't surprisingly they found that psilocybin actually causes the activity to decrease in areas that have the densest connections with other areas so they don't know so that makes sense though so it quiets your brain down so that you could have an outer body experience that makes sense to me sort of less activity less activity just like when when
Starting point is 02:06:25 you meditate you meditate you know people are addicted to meditation because you know if you could if you could just think on think about one thought like a water drop or whatever you get into that zone you know people that zone is the frequency of the universe that's where everyone's trying to get they're trying to get that and you do it by just thinking about one thing so that makes sense you're quieting your brain you do it by just thinking about one thing. So that makes sense. You're quieting your brain, removing all negativity. You're thinking about one thing, and it aligns you with the universe. I mean. Maybe.
Starting point is 02:06:53 No one knows exactly what it's doing. I mean, it might just be facilitating evolution. It might just be giving you a better way of thinking because it empowers the mind. Well, that's my hypothesis because the universe is at one frequency. That's science. So it makes sense that we should try universe is at one frequency. That's science. So it makes sense that we should try to get to that frequency. If the universe is at a frequency, one frequency all throughout the universe, we know that. It makes sense.
Starting point is 02:07:14 What do you mean by that? What's this frequency you're talking about? The whole universe is at a frequency, like one frequency. And that was in the debate between creationism and evolution. That was the strong point right there. So science proved that the whole universe is at one frequency. So the creationists are saying, see, that's proof of God. That's proof of intelligent design.
Starting point is 02:07:34 How could the whole universe by accident be at one frequency? What does the science mean? What's frequency mean though? I don't know exactly, you know, but it's like the frequency. Like what is the frequency of smoking man yeah that shit is so gross dude god damn what do you put a fan on or something but there's the frequency is like like what's a frequency of vibration yeah it's a vibration like what frequency the cigarettes give off dude that's like fucking calm for 93.4 please brian's
Starting point is 02:08:03 for real man unless you got a window open or something, you've got to send your hot box. There's a smoke sucker over there. That shit ain't doing nothing, man. No, what I mean by that, like what's a frequency? Like a radio station is a certain frequency. It's a 95.5. What is that? You know it's a frequency, and if you turn that dial, bam,
Starting point is 02:08:19 you need to get that frequency on 95.5 if you want to listen to KLS. So the pinnacle of science is that they just discovered that the whole universe is one frequency I don't know what number that is but it's a certain frequency in music you got to be on the same frequency or you got to be on frequencies that harmonize with that frequency so it makes sense like to me it makes sense that if the whole unit so but, but, but the science is saying, no, it doesn't prove intelligent design because we are finding that we're not in just one universe where there's a multiverse, there's, there's endless universes that each one is
Starting point is 02:08:55 at a different frequency. So that doesn't prove any intelligent design. I don't really give a shit about that argument, but to me, it makes sense. We're trying to get to at on the frequency of the universe i'm glad it makes sense to you because i have no idea still and i'm like google trying to get on the radio station of the universe that's that's good and meditation and yoga this is my hypothesis this is what this is what i'm this is my guess is that yoga and meditation unconditional love sex certain drugs Will get you In the frequency
Starting point is 02:09:25 Of the universe Including gay sex If you love the man What about dog sex What about you Fuck a donkey It's the same frequency Is it the same frequency
Starting point is 02:09:32 Yes Animals supposedly Have you felt it yet Joe I'm saying The only thing I'm seeing here Is from godlike productions Which right away You go
Starting point is 02:09:39 Um Okay And what they're saying Is that all beings In the universe Connect through A single frequency And there's a bunch of videos I guess That you have to watch To understand What they're saying is that all beings in the universe connect through a single frequency And there's a bunch of videos I guess that you have to watch to understand what they're trying to say
Starting point is 02:09:49 Yeah, I make sense to me. I looked at and it says It's a song from the butthole surfers really yeah about it's good song. Yeah, I Mean no one knows what the fuck's going on when you're on mushrooms It's it's certainly something that should be studied though, and that's what the fuck's going on when you're on mushrooms. It's certainly something that should be studied, though. And that's what I think is missing in people's ideas of mushrooms. Everybody has got this propaganda-based opinion on it. Everybody thinks it's bad for you. I mean, I remember I had this conversation with Michio Kaku once when we were on the Opie and Anthony show.
Starting point is 02:10:19 And I suggested, you know, I asked him if he's ever done mushrooms. And, you know, he asked, like I said, like, hey, you know, you ever smoke crack? You ever do meth? You know, it's like to a lot of people that's like the same thing. Like you say, do mushrooms. They don't want to mess up their brain. But so much insight, so many different people have come up with insights because directly related to psychedelic experiments.
Starting point is 02:10:39 And I don't know if it's true, but the rumor was that Francis Crick, when he was dying, admitted that he was a frequent user of LSD, and that's how he came up with the idea, the concept of the double helix of DNA, that he came up with it under the influence of LSD. There's been a bunch of, I think the guy's name was Kerry, another guy who came up with other insights on LSD, and there's been geneticists and different people that have done ayahuasca that have had weird ideas and expanded on these ideas that came directly as a result of psychedelic experiences.
Starting point is 02:11:11 Who knows what it is, man? I don't know, but it would be awesome if they were allowed people to fucking study it instead of lock you in a fucking cage for experiencing something that's been here a lot longer than people have, you know? So stupid. It's just, we have a bunch of stupid people. You were talking before this happened about the presidential debates,
Starting point is 02:11:29 about watching. Watching Newt Gingrich is hilarious. How is he even in the presidential race? It's amazing. That guy doesn't... How about Mitt Romney? Him and Mitt Romney are arguing about, because they both had investments in some,
Starting point is 02:11:48 they both made money off the economy going to shit based on their investments. And they both did, but they were arguing live on TV, on CNN, about who invested more. And that alone should tell people they're both full of shit. Yeah, well, he just lost, he came in second place in Florida. Can you imagine it? And that alone should tell people they're both full of shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:05 Well, he just lost. He came in second place in Florida. Can you imagine if Newt Gingrich is the president? What about Mitt Romney? You see that video where Mitt Romney met with that kid who had cerebral palsy and he uses marijuana? Yeah. And he said, why don't you? He wouldn't even answer him.
Starting point is 02:12:21 He wouldn't even answer him. He said, would you put me in jail? He said, well, you could try synthetic marijuana. Synthetic marijuana. He was suggesting that that was a good idea. That I'm not for medical marijuana. I've told you I'm not for it. You're not for it.
Starting point is 02:12:33 You're telling, for what? Why? For what reason? Under what reason? Why? Because you're a whore. Because all these goddamn companies that get you into the position that you're in right now tell you that that's the stance that you should take.
Starting point is 02:12:44 Did you see that video of all of Mitt Romney's flipping and flopping? There's an awesome YouTube video. He's gross. He's a Mormon, man. Not that there's anything wrong with being a Mormon, but when you're a Mormon, you're not allowed to run the presidency. You're not allowed to run the country. You're just not.
Starting point is 02:12:58 You're not allowed any wacky religion. If you're a super Catholic, and I know JFK was a Catholic and everything like that, but this is with different times. It's 2012. You know, really? You believe that Joseph Smith, a 14-year-old kid that lived in 1820, found golden tablets that represented the lost work of Jesus?
Starting point is 02:13:15 The guy was a con man, a known con man. He said he found a stone, a secret stone, and he looked through this stone and he could read the lost works of Jesus. Really? Yeah. Really? Really? Come on, man. What language was that in? Goofball.
Starting point is 02:13:31 It's just fucking amazing, man. You know, I have friends that are, you know, friends of friends, actually, that are Mormons that I know. They're very nice people. It's one of the nicest religions. And what it gives them that's great is a great sense of community. Like, they have, their churches have, I've been to Mormon churches before. They have a really nice sense of community. Like they have, their churches have, I've been to Mormon churches before. They have a really nice sense of community.
Starting point is 02:13:48 They're very nice to each other and they really promote that. They promote like that feeling of family and that positive frequency and it does really, it really makes a difference, man. You know, I was at a Mormon funeral recently and these people, man, they really believed that this guy was in a better place
Starting point is 02:14:04 and it really helped them, that their loved one, you know, had passed was in a better place and it really helped them that their loved one you know had passed on into a better place it really did and i and i really support that i think that's awesome but just just that's just because the ideology happens to be in a good frequency but if you break down what the ideology stands for it's ludicrous it's absolutely ridiculous it's absolutely doing some good for some of these people but so would just being nice it would do the people, but so would just being nice. It would do the exact same thing. So would just being humble and giving in to love and just being nice to people. You don't need some wacky
Starting point is 02:14:32 shit that was made by a con man, a 14-year-old con man who found golden tablets and then when the people came to him like, where are these tablets? He goes, oh, the angels took them away. The angels took them. It's like, you know it it's like it's like you know it's such a dumb story it's such a terrible story yeah i mean to me i used growing up i
Starting point is 02:14:53 despised all religions i thought i thought it was all just crap and and just destroying society but as i get older i for me my opinion on religions is if you do it right, if it's based on unconditional love and doing the right thing, different religions are just like it's a way to get your soul in the right frequency. There's different ways to get your body physically, like there's kettlebells, and then there's some people like to just run, some people like to swim, all different ways to get your body aligned. And I think all religions, as long as you do it right,
Starting point is 02:15:25 whether it's Muslim or whatever, Catholicism, like my grandma, she did it right. All she cared about was doing things for others, and she was hardcore Catholic, went to church every day. That was her exercise of the soul. That is what got her frequency in the right place. Some people do yoga. Some people meditate.
Starting point is 02:15:44 Some people believe this. Some people do yoga. Some people meditate. Some people believe this. Some people worship rocks. If you really believe rock, the rock is the frequency of the universe and it gets your soul in the right place, I'm all for it now. Yeah, it's the idea of just believing in something and then having a code that you live by
Starting point is 02:15:59 and moving your life always in a positive way. And that's good, no matter what you call it. Whether you call it Hindu, whether you call it Kundalini Yoga, whether you call it Catholicism. If you're really moving in a positive direction and you really believe in love and you really are being warm and open. And the idea of giving into a higher power is not because God wants you to be humble or God wants you to be, you know, in awe of his greatness. What it is is saying there's something above you. So not taking yourself so fucking seriously and instead not being out for number one and sort of realizing that we are together, like there is a brotherhood and a sisterhood of man. You know, that's really what it's supposed
Starting point is 02:16:40 to be all about. That's the good of religion. And that's where I've seen religion help people for sure. And I was just like you growing up, man. It was both of about. That's the good of religion. And that's where I've seen religion help people for sure. And I was just like you growing up, man. And it was both of us, it was the same reason. Because we had seen the system fail us. You know, we had seen all these people that were supposed to be correct. And, you know, these people that were supposed to be adults.
Starting point is 02:16:57 We saw they were retarded. We saw they were assholes. We saw that was all bullshit. We saw that, you know, religion was being used negatively a lot of the time. And there was a lot of guilt. And there was used negatively a lot of the time and there was a lot of guilt and there was a lot of yelling at you so we just trashed all religion you know
Starting point is 02:17:11 if my grandmother was still alive I would never try to knock some sense into her and try to prove that the bible was written by man it worked for her that was her kettle bells right there for the soul it worked for like that's the way kettlebells right there for her soul. It worked for like, you know. And well, you know, that's the way I look at it now.
Starting point is 02:17:27 I think religion is, if you do it right and, you know, you always look to do the right thing. And it's all, life is all about selflessness and unconditional love. And what people don't understand is that benefits you, man. You can do that and do it in a selfish way. I mean, it sounds stupid, but if you're a selfish person, you really want to succeed, you really want good things for you, you want to do it selfishly, be nice to everybody. That's the best way to get ahead.
Starting point is 02:18:00 The best way to get ahead is just be nice to everybody. Tip people whenever you can. Tip more than you're supposed to tip. Give people hugs when you can. Be nice to people all the time. When you put out that good energy, you get good energy back. You can like almost think of it like people are, I'm looking out for number one. You really want to look out for number one?
Starting point is 02:18:18 Look out for everybody else. Look out for everybody else. And that's how you really look out for number one. I have had the most benefit in my life by being nice to people, the most benefit in my life by being generous and being friendly and being warm. And every time I've not been that, it's always fucked me. And when I run into someone, especially now at this stage of my life, when I've had my own personal revelations and my own successes and failures, and I've kind of assessed what helps me and what doesn't help me. When I run into someone that's life is a mess, when I run into someone that's got a lot of troubles,
Starting point is 02:18:46 God damn it if it's not a big chunk of what the fuck got them there is the way they think about things, the way they behave about things, the way they take a cigarette and fucking throw it in the street. You don't realize why your life is kind of shit while you're littering everywhere.
Starting point is 02:19:02 Like that's not, you're not putting out good energy while you're throwing your fucking McDonald's bag out the window because no one's looking. You're being a cunt. You're fucking up, man. You're ruining space. You're sending out bad things. When you fuck somebody over in a business deal, you're like, well, I profited. Hey, it's a dog eat dog world. Bullshit. You just put out some negative shit and it's going to come back at you, man. That guy hates you. Those people you fucked over in that bad development deal or whatever the hell you did wrong. Those people don't like you now. They hate you.
Starting point is 02:19:29 And that's going to come your way. Do nice things and nice things come from it, man. Think, talk, and act. Always. Think, talk, and act, man. And that's the best way to end this bitch, right? Yeah. Let's wrap this motherfucker up.
Starting point is 02:19:42 So, San Francisco, if you're down, if you're down to get your shit together, if you're down to learn the ancient martial art of jujitsu, if you're down to have a vehicle for developing your human potential, go to 10th Planet Jujitsu San Francisco or JJ? 10th Planet Jujitsu SF.
Starting point is 02:20:01 Jujitsu, full word. Yes. 10th Planet J-I-U-J-I-T-S-U-S-F. Go there. You should probably have a shorter version of that, too. Well, you could just go to 10th Planet. There's also no Jiu-Jitsu SF.com. If you go to 10th Planet JJ, it shows you everywhere.
Starting point is 02:20:15 10thPlanetJJ.com. And there's how many affiliates? Click locations. We got over 30 worldwide. 30! Melbourne, Rochester, Victoria, Canada, Portland, Spokane. And by the way, if there's no one near you and you want to learn 10th Planet Systems, you can still go to 10thPlanetJJ.com and you can learn from the videos that are available in the database.
Starting point is 02:20:34 You could literally see all the lessons that we're learning in class in San Francisco. Eddie puts those up there. You just have to pay a small monthly fee. $4.99, just like we were talking about before. Perfect. I could have charged $30 or $25. A lot of people are. I just wanted just a little bit.
Starting point is 02:20:47 I wanted to charge. For bandwidth, keep your website going. I got to charge a little bit. $4.99 a month for the entire 10th Planet system at your fingertips. And there's also DVDs available. Tell them about the DVDs and where they can get those. You just go to 10thPlanetJJ.com.
Starting point is 02:21:02 All my shit's there. The books, the DVDs. And if there's not a 10th Planet school near you, just go to any Brazilian jiu-jitsu school, any school. It doesn't matter. You know, if the guy's a douchebag, find another school, whatever.
Starting point is 02:21:15 But any jiu-jitsu is better than no jiu-jitsu. Absolutely. It's a good thing to have the skill to protect your family, to protect your loved ones by being an expert at scientifically subduing someone and putting them to sleep nonviolently and getting the hell out and getting to safety.
Starting point is 02:21:33 And it's a fun way to exercise, man. A lot of people don't like going to the gym and just riding a bike. It's fucking boring. And a lot of people can't motivate themselves to do that. Jiu-jitsu will motivate you to do it. It's fun. It's fun.
Starting point is 02:21:44 So 10thplanetjj.com. All your information. All your information. Get it. Go get yourself some skills. Learn it! This Friday, House of Blues in Vegas. Joey Diaz, Duncan Trussell, and me. Almost sold out. There's only a few tickets
Starting point is 02:22:00 left, so jump on that shit. Go to my Facebook page. HOB.com. HOB.o.b.com that's the best way i got some seminars real quick seminars uh at omaha february 11th um michigan february 18th and um is all this on 10th planet jj.com uh yes yes so if you can't remember it just go there and danny's doing the ultimate NYC absolute in New York. There's going to be February 25th. All the top guys, like Ryan Hall, Coparena.
Starting point is 02:22:34 February 25th. What the hell am I? They're mixing 29, 35, 49, and 162 in the world meeting at 155. It's like a mini Abu Dhabi, dude. It's not even a mini. It's like just as good as Abu Dhabi. Damn, I'm going to be in Japan. Ah, yes.
Starting point is 02:22:50 Like a motherfucker. Jake's fighting on that card. Oh, yeah. He's fighting Akiyama, right? Yeah, man. Ooh, exciting. That's a good fight. Stand-up going good?
Starting point is 02:22:57 Yeah, dude. Jake's always getting better, man. You know, he's a hard worker, dude. I've been working with him. I got to train with him last week. Dude, he looks awesome. His stand-up is getting better? His stand-up is getting better.
Starting point is 02:23:09 I think all of his skills are getting better. His wrestling, his jiu-jitsu, his stand-up, everything. Beautiful. I love Jake. He's a good dude. All right. Thanks, everybody. Thanks to Fleshlight for sponsoring the podcast.
Starting point is 02:23:19 They were the first sponsor, and we will always be loyal to them as much as people give a shit about it. Oh, I should probably say something about this Fear Factor thing. Yeah, Fear Factor got pulled off the air. We were supposed to have an episode where contestants drank donkey semen and donkey urine. Apparently
Starting point is 02:23:37 folks think it's too much. I agree. After we did it, I'm going to be honest with you guys and I haven't told anybody this, but I think I got high with you after it was over that day. And I remember thinking, I might have told you, but I think we fucked up, man. I think we went too far. It just seemed wrong, man. I'm like, people are not going to like this.
Starting point is 02:23:57 This is going to make people angry. Whatever, man. Somebody signed off on it, and then apparently the backlash was crazy. So they shut down Fear Factor all together. They pulled the episode. And there's one episode that's going to air February 12th. It's our next one. There's one other two-hour episode that's going to air sometime after that.
Starting point is 02:24:14 They haven't figured out when. That's perfect. Put it on the DVD. No, no, no, no, no. I think it's never going to go anywhere. It's going to be buried, and they'll never do it again. I think they went too far. Are they showing throw-up now?
Starting point is 02:24:22 No, not really. But the stunts are so much bigger now. This show is so much bigger and crazier that they tried to push everything. I just think they went too far. I think it was nutty. I definitely don't think they went too far. I know, exactly. Everybody has their own standards. I just don't think that
Starting point is 02:24:38 it's fair to ask people to do that. It sounds ridiculous coming from me. Well, they don't have to do it. I know they don't have to, but I mean to ask them to do it, I think. It would have been cool if everybody said go fuck yourself and then we had like scrap the stunt it would have been funny have you had that happen yet no but that would have been a good time you know um but you know i think it was way easier for girls to do than guys you know obviously but uh i mean for real even girls were even joking around about it it was way easier spitting it on their chest and rubbing it in. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:25:05 Brian, that's your world. You live in a dark world. So, look, I'm sure if we had to go back in time, they wouldn't do it again. And the only way you find the limits of these things is you push them. You know, I think it was a mistake. So it's over, and it'll probably never see the light of day. Or five years from now, it'll probably never see the light of day or five years from now it'll air because there's no way they would have considered doing it five years ago
Starting point is 02:25:28 when Fear Factor went through its first run I mean in season one it was so tame and calm and easy and you know and small compared to what it's like now. Now it's just ridiculous. The stunts are huge and crazy and explosions and nuts who knows if they'll ever show that again
Starting point is 02:25:43 I'd rather they not. I think people shouldn't have to do that. I think it's too much. They fucked up, but whatever. We learn. Kill the show. Kill the episode, and we'll march on, because we've got some good episodes coming up.
Starting point is 02:25:55 It's a way better show than it ever was before. I hope this doesn't fuck it up for everything else, but I think everybody realizes that it was a mistake, including NBC. They wanted to push things, it up for everything else. But I think everybody realizes that it was a mistake, including NBC. And, you know, they wanted to push things and just, you know, you don't find out how bad things are until you get people's reactions. And that's the reaction.
Starting point is 02:26:12 Whoopsies. We're sorry. Sorry. So that's it. So I've commented on that. So go to oh, Pasadena. Pasadena. Thursday night, right here, 10 p.m.? Thursday night, it's at 8.30.
Starting point is 02:26:29 8.30, perfect. And if Friday's at 10, go to icehousecomedy.com. Thursday, 8.30 p.m. Me, Joe Diaz, Lil' Lester, Brian Redband, and who knows who else. And we also have the Ice House Chronicles podcast, which is only available on Death Squad on iTunes. Subscribe to Death Squad. It is free, as, all our podcasts are.
Starting point is 02:26:47 Um, and you can get, there's a gang of podcasts there. There's Sam Tripoli's naughty show. There's Tom Segura and Christina Pazitsky's, uh, your mom's house. There's Ryan Cowan's new one, but check out the two short, uh, naughty show. I may put it up later tonight. It's amazing. Okay. And also, um, what was the other one that you got?
Starting point is 02:27:06 Oh, ice house Chronicles and the ice house Chronicles. Uh, of course, all of them free. So thank you to the fleshlight for allowing us to keep all this shit for fleet for free, for free.
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Starting point is 02:27:29 Shroom Tech Immune, and New Mood, the 5-HTP supplement. Thanks to everybody for tuning in to this podcast because without you guys, it would be a fucking strange world. Life has changed considerably for all of us because of this podcast. And we put a voice out there that didn't exist before. And I think for us and I think for you guys, we found you guys and you guys found us. And who would have known, right?
Starting point is 02:27:57 Who would have known that there would have been a podcast, you know, like there would have been an audience for a podcast like this. You know, we most of the time thought they were just a bunch of assholes sitting around talking about stupid shit while we're high. Literally. We know that the world is filled with assholes that wanted to hear that kind of shit. So it's awesome for us as much as it's awesome for you.
Starting point is 02:28:17 We love you all. And thanks for tuning in and we'll see you probably tomorrow. I got an idea for tomorrow and then Thursday too. Bye.

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