The Joe Rogan Experience - #1825 - Ali Siddiq

Episode Date: May 27, 2022

Ali Siddiq is a stand-up comedian, writer, and community advocate. His new comedy special, "The Domino Effect," is now available on YouTube. https://www.alisiddiq.com/

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I've had Cuban cigars, and I know they're supposed to be better. And I believe they're good. But I do not know if they're better. You could lie to me. You could give me a good Dominican cigar, and I'd be like, damn, Cuban, nice. I can't tell. You could lie to me. You could give me a good Dominican cigar and I'd be like, damn, Cuban. Nice. I don't know. You know what you like when you like it.

I like, I drink Cabernet and you know how they come to the table and they tell you this valley and this and this is from this. And I just say, eh, nine ounce. And then

I like it, I like said, eh, nine ounce. And if I like it, I like it, you know. Yeah. But, you know, other than that.

There was a documentary, I've talked about this before, but there's a documentary called Sour Grapes and it's all about wine connoisseurs getting hustled by this dude who figured out

how to mix wine to make it taste like old wine and he put fake labels on them and he sold them for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Millions of dollars worth of wine this guy sold. Like bottles for a couple hundred thousand dollars. And unfortunately, he sold a fake bottle to the Koch brothers. Oh.

And one of the Koch brothers, someone was like going through their collection, going, what the fuck is this? And he's like, oh, that's a rah, rah, rah. And they're like, like no it's not and then the next thing you know it he gets his wine examined and he's like bro you're you have a bunch of fake wine in here and then they find out this one dude had been making these fake labels and blending these cheaper wines together to try to create a taste that's similar to really expensive wine that's ridiculous that the everything that he went through he could have just made a wine you'd think so but he made millions millions and millions and millions of people but he's he come from a criminal family like when they

went into the whole family of it, like the family, one of the brothers had stolen a bunch of money out of a bank and like hundreds of millions of dollars, right? Wasn't it like some insane amount of money? Do you remember that part? And, you know, he's on the run. He's hiding somewhere. So it's like the whole family's been con artists their whole life. And this guy just figured out a way to get in with these wine people. Because the way he did it was pretty genius.

First, he started going to auctions and buying up really expensive wine. So he became known in the wine community as this guy. Like, oh, he knows. He knows the wines. He knows. And then he said, I'm going to get rid of some of my wines. I have too much wine. I don't know where to store it. So I'm going to sell some of some of my wines. I have too much wine, nowhere to store it,

so I'm going to sell some of my choice wines to Sotheby's. So they would auction off some of his choice wines. Then the winery found out. The winery's like, we never made that label on that year. This is all fake. It's wild, though, dude. It's that thing. It's like people want exclusive shit.

Ah, Cuban cigars. With sneakers. They find out some people are selling fake sneakers that makes sense it's like yeah i don't know you can make a sneaker so yeah it's leather i mean once you get past the printing of the soles everything else seems like you could kind of do the only way that you can make a shoe exclusive, and this would be just utterly ridiculous, if your shoe was put on the foot of the person that's buying it. Right, formed. Like, Ken Griffith Jr. stepped in your shoe

or at least tried to put it on, held it in his hand, and then they sold it to you in Essex. Because he dealt with the shoe. Like, all these Ken Griffiths over here are regular Ken Griffiths, but these are handheld

Ken Griffith Jr. sneakers. And you would have to have, like, chain of custody from Ken to you. Where it's a photo of him with your... a video of him touching your shoe, putting it in the box, and then it's coming to you. And maybe, like, signing his name

on the inside lip. Right? On the tongue, just a little bit? Not... I wouldn't even tell them what it was. It would be something like they know when your shoe is authentic that you don't even know that it has. But you know, this is authentic. You got paperwork on it. But what makes it authentic?

I don't know. Let me see your shoe. And then they turn around and they put some light on it. And they're like, nope like nope nope don't have it like then yes because people i don't know i don't know it's like what is exclusive what is exclusive like if you sit in first class on the plane are you really getting anything other than getting a bigger seat but you're paying sometimes like way more like what is a coach seat can be 400 a first class might be 2000 yeah it's and you go in the same place so if the plane went down

like do you live like you're more likely to die. The people in the back live. Like, do people say, oh, Joe, I thought you was, I heard you was in a plane accident. Everybody's like, yeah, I was in first class. Like, why would I be dead? Your bag's everywhere. Like, you and eight people, like, the plane had done all type of flips and is on fire, but y'all have no idea. Y'all still in the front. Something's going on out there, I think.

And then you get out of a box, a first class box, and you're like, wow. Didn't know all that was going on. Everyone's gone and thank goodness this first class he was available people love exclusivity though they love to be above the herd above the crowd look at me with my fancy clothes I said courtside once that I had to walk up to get out and was pissed. All these dance, the further I started going down, I was like, man, shit.

I got to walk back up that way to get out. God damn it. Why don't they have a courtside exit? That would be exclusive, real exclusive. You go through the locker room. Right? That would be exclusive. Really exclusive.

You go through the locker room. Man, it was insane, all the steps that I had to take to go do anything. I was like, damn it. I haven't gone to see a sporting event live in forever. And then I went the other night to an Austin FC soccer game. And it's like 22,000 people in the arena. It was great. I've never seen soccer live. It was great. I appreciate it now. watched it on tv i'm like not enough action but when you're there live and you see how fast those guys run and how much skill involved and

tactics and strategy but goddamn leaving is a pain in the dick when there's 22 000 people trying to get out of the same two lanes like oh christ and then there's a light up ahead you gotta wait for the light to turn green oh fuck it's um I thought of this because I had this new special it just came out I thought as soon as it came out that they was gonna invite me to a sporting event like the shooter the free throw if I'm on the list. Throw the first pitch? Throw the first pitch. Because in Houston, I see other people. I see lesser celebrities shooting the free throw from the line for charity,

and I'll just be pissed. Like, why haven't they called me yet to – I'm on, like, special number four. Like, what's the holdup? Like, what's the holdup on? Who is not picking up the phone for me to shoot this damn shot? Do you have a publicist that calls people for that? No. I think that's what it is.

That's what it is. The people that get that chase it. They chase that shit. It's like Hollywood Walk of Fame. The star, you could get a star. You just have to pay for it and have someone set it up. Like there's a lot of people that have stars that are just, you've never heard of them before.

They just paid for it. You just walk in like, who is Rudy Jackson? Exactly. Exactly. It's not a joke. Like, what did he do? And he's like right by the Starbucks. Walk down Hollywood Boulevard and then you find out

that the homeless person down the way is Rudy Jackson and you're like I used to be a great man and then back back in the day it was Samuel Jackson

stunt double exclusivity is a thing man it's like people pay for fake exclusivity there was just a bust they busted they said it was 10 million dollars worth of fake Rolexes a thing man it's like people pay for fake exclusivity there was just a bust they they busted uh they said it was 10 million dollars worth of fake rolexes and i'm like well if they're fake how they should be worth nothing right like what are you busting me for trying right

i'm the real loser here sir the thing about a about a fake Rolex is, though, they can make a fake Rolex exactly like a real Rolex. Exactly. Because they use 3D printing. So what they do is they'll take a model, like they'll do a computer model of every single part in a Rolex. They'll take it apart and then they make a duplicate version of it. Every part. Everything. Every screw. every little wheel,

every little mechanical piece inside that moves, and then they put it all together. Yeah, this is it right here. U.S. Customs Border Protection said it seized 460 counterfeit Rolexes shipped to the U.S. from Hong Kong. You won't even be able to tell the difference, man. First of all, my eyesight sucks anyway because I have to put reading glasses on so it's a rolex that i'm looking for that they say

that um that people it's hard to find it's the silver one with the green face it's a oyster 41 if anybody in hong kong make one making one of them just, you know, and shit, until I get the one I want. I'm like, you know, I be hearing about women getting gifted things that's on their wish list.

Oh, yeah. And I'm like, that shit never, if I put a wish list together, they be like, you fucking bum. You a fucking beggar, Ali. Women can do it.

They always complain about, not always, but sometimes they complain about, it's a double standard. It fucking is. Of course it is. If I go on the internet and put on a halter top and put a wet halter top on and put it right up underneath my chest, I get no money. I get complaints of people, hey, I need $10

for the shit you put on in there. People are requesting money from me. But you do it. Let a woman put on a wet halter top right beneath her breasts and just put on there, donate. I guarantee you could be a millionaire. For sure.

Easily. There was a woman who was working for a friend of mine. She was just in production of his podcast, and she would take photos of her feet and put her feet on OnlyFans. And she was making $100,000 a month showing her feet. The lady who does my feet has taken videos of my feet and I've seen them on her page of other Korean ladies laughing. Look at that toe. Look at that baby toe.

I think it's work. You get your toes done? You get pedicure? Yeah, I go get a pedicure. Yo, I took one of the toughest dudes. I always take some hood dude to something that they deem as some non-manly shit. And I'm like, yo, listen, my man. My man Papa Doc. He said his feet has been hurting I

say yo listen you got to get you a pair of hokas and was saying he saw you when he got them tell me yo I feel like I'm walking on fucking pillows like hokas is the shit Hoka like Ryan shoes yeah they're great oh yeah that's you of me so i said man you got plantar fasciitis and i said man you got to get your feet done that's a part of mental health health care you know doing getting your feet he's like man i ain't with it i'm scared i'm not doing it i don't know my and i'm ticklish i don't know about touching my goddamn feet i'm like i'ma go with you and he's like i don't give a who go i'm not with it i think listen i'm like i'm gonna go with you and he's like i don't give a shit who go i'm not fucking with it i said listen i got you i'm gonna go with you i'm gonna take you to my place

and he said all right i said listen before we get in here i'm we getting a deluxe we're getting the highest package the lady gonna put all types on your feet mayonnaise cucumbers all type of buttermilk she gonna boil the motherfuckers in acid she gonna of shit on your feet. Mayonnaise, cucumbers, all types of buttermilk. She's going to boil them motherfuckers in acid. She's going to do everything to your feet. Trust me. One of the toughest dudes. I'm like, I've had situations.

I've called him and he showed up with no problem. Like, yo, what's up? I'm killing everybody. But you would think that I was taking him to the electric chair I'm like yo man are you gonna come into place nah nah

I ain't fucking with you he looking in there like it's a set up like it's a mob hit like who all in there man listen elderly people

come in here women come in here women feet be fucked up you know what I'm saying listen so he sits down takes his shoes off and as soon as he put his feet You know what I'm saying? Listen. So he sits down, takes his shoes off, and as soon as he put his feet in the water,

I'm talking to him the whole time, just trying to get his mind off of it. And he's like, man, there's fucking water on it. The water bubbling. He's like, I see him easing up. Then she comes out with this tray of all sorts of fruit and oranges. Put them on his legs. He's like, man, type of fucking fruit salad shit is this?

Right when he getting the cucumber rub between his toes and all that, he look over at me as he's drinking, because they bring you drinks. I'm having a mimosa. He's having an orange juice because he's telling me I got to stay on my toes. You can't stay on your toes in here man your toes in the water he's on high alert

this whole experience is not you're supposed to be relaxing a lady come in and she she um put his massage chair on and he

you can see it you can see it you can see it easing up on him before I know it he in that sleep lady doing everything to his feet just got

she sawing him she taking off his toes she doing everything I'm talking about the lady took his feet off and just took him to the back with her

she was like yo there's a lot of shit going on he walked out he walking out and he turns to me and said, man, God damn. Oh, that shit was amazing, man. Got me some new feet. You converted him.

I'm like, he'll be back without me. He'll be back in there without me. He know where to go. Yeah, but maybe. Sometimes it's hard. It's like going to the movies by yourself. It's a big leap. Is it?

Some people. Man, I go to the movies by myself in a hard way. But you're a comic and you go on the road. When you go on the road, especially if you got an annoying opening act. Oh. You know, if you go on the road and you're going to Cincinnati

and you've never been to Cincinnati before and they got a local guy opening for you and he's annoying, know when you wake up And it's 11 a.m.. You're like fuck. What am I gonna do today? I'll go to the gym Well, it's playing the movies fucking I'm gonna go to the movies by myself And I and I commandeer both seats on the side of me with with vittles

Me because if I'm going to the movies, this is not a healthy experience. I'm eating all the bullshit. Yeah. That's in it. I want. Sour Patch Kids. Sour Patch Kids.

I want the Twizzlers. I want, this is the only time I eat a box of fucking thin mint. The junior mints. I eat a box of them shits. In the course of the movies, with nachos. I need my nachos with jalapenos. I need

my popcorn jalapenos. I put jalapenos in my popcorn. Ah, man, I just I'm just going to have so much bad shit and I need it in both chairs. And I'm going to sit back and I'm going to watch and I be on high alert too

in the movies sometimes, but most of the time I'm just in there relaxing. And I be on high alert too in the movies sometimes, but most of the time I'm just in there relaxing. And I already have an exit plan though. Somebody coming in with some bullshit, I got an exit plan. This fucking kid shooting yesterday is just, that's when you think about exit plan. Like people always want to think,

you know, what would I do? What would I do if something happened like that? Like this elementary school shooting. This elementary school, the more I'm reading about it, the more fucked it is. They saw him go in. The cops didn't stop him. They didn't go in after him. He was in there for 40 minutes.

For 40 minutes. The parents are outside. There's video of the parents screaming at the cops, trying to get the cops to go in. Finally, Border Patrol gets there. Border Patrol goes in, and they kill them. I talked about it the day of because it was on the radio in Houston. And it said, comes across shooting on Uvalde is what it said. So immediately we start trying to correct people

because in Houston we have a street, Uvalde, and that's what people heard. So we went in correcting it, and it's in Uvalde, Texas. And the first thing I'm like, who went to the school? And why? And why are we still in this same position over and over again? The level of concern that we have for children is really lackluster in this country because why does this continue to happen?

Why is it no security? Why was he able to even get in the school if you're looking at him and you know he doesn't go? You don't want to stop him to even ask a question I I'm confused of why people with these issues go to the most like what it is like why this place why is it's horrific I they do it because it's the worst thing you can do. They're shooting little kids. They're going to an elementary school kid.

You're getting like eight year olds, 10 year olds. It's the most horrific thing, the most innocent. And we know that this is a possibility, right? And we know that this has happened. So why don't lawmakers make the law a law to be, if you commit this horrific crime, if you go in, the consequence is so dire that we, that this is the time, this is a, like you get beheaded. This is, once again, this back off to like. Yeah, but these guys want to die like it's a death sentence they know like if that guy's in there for 40 minutes he's not trying to live he's waiting for someone to come in and kill him that's a lot of these guys

it's a suicide run run i think some i think some of them feel like they're gonna live and somebody gonna make a movie about them i think that that you you you you because if I would kill you before you even got, you walking up is going to be a problem. Because as soon as you're walking up to the school, it's going to be some resistance. Because they know that there's no resistance to these places. to these places. So we have to put up some walls of safety when we know that these things happen in this country and people's mental health. I'm not even blaming on mental health a lot of these things.

It's this desire of sensationalism that a lot of these people have. And you should combat it at all angles of it prior to it happening. Protection is preventive. Yeah. Well, somebody pointed out, and it's a good point, how do we have $40 billion to send to Ukraine and we don't have $40 billion to protect the schools? Okay, exactly.

Where's the money getting out? But I've said this about every single problem they have in this country. Every time there's like a report on the shootings in Chicago. Like, how do we have money to send to other countries when we don't have enough money to fix whatever's going on the south side of Chicago or Baltimore or parts of Detroit? If we have this money, how is it poverty in this? Right. Okay, so you find money for other things, but you don't find money to correct the problems here? Exactly.

Exactly. It's almost like it has to be profitable. You remember when we invaded Iraq and Halliburton got these no-bid contracts to fix all the shit we blew up. Give them a no-bid contract to fix Chicago. Go in there. Fix it. Go in there. Set up community centers.

Set up whatever you can do to protect people. Set up whatever you can do to educate people. Set up whatever you can do to provide people with better housing. Give them hope. Do the country. The whole country the country the whole country the whole country it can be like if you've got that much money to go into these other countries and fix things and this whole idea of us being the police of the world how the fuck can

we be the police of the world we can't even police our own backyard how do i have a i have a plan to eradicate homelessness but the smartest people in this in this world don't have a plan. What's your plan? Simple. So in most cities, you have these abandoned buildings. You have a lot of abandoned buildings. You go in, you refurbish this building, and you start people right at the top. And it's a tier system that as you tier out the door.

So whatever your situation is, whether it's mental health, you get that fixed there. Whether it's financial literacy, you get that fixed there. Whatever your situation is, you get fixed in this building that this is what this recovery center is for. Then you put them in jobs within the building because it's ran by grants within the building to heighten the skills that they already have.

And you ask people, what are their interests? What do they want to be? What were you before this happened to you? How did this happen? You get all that back information. And as they are tearing out, the money that's allocated for each particular client through this grant, half of that money is being put to the side for when they get ready to come out.

You're not letting them out of this program just naked with just the skills that they acquired in this program. You're giving them a lease on a new lease on life. This is the money that you acquired by being through this program. Let's help you start your life from this point.

And you invest in the businesses that they're starting. You invest in their life, whether it's a trade center. You invest in these people. And with the notion of they're going to reinvest a percentage back into the building to help more people. And you keep recycling people back into the world

in that manner. So when you see somebody homeless, they're like, I'm homeless. I can't help myself. They're like, bullshit. It's a building right there that helps every single person that even falls on hard times. And then you give people free healthcare. I bet if you did that for several generations,

you could put a massive debt in it. I don't think you'd ever totally fix it because you're never going to fix abusive parents, sexual abuse, drug abuse when you're young. You get people out of there. You get people out that situation. I had an abusive stepfather.

The only way to remedy this is to get out of this because you can't fix him. You got to focus on me and get me to safety. But if you cripple somebody thinking that somebody you put a person in a position where they feel like they need that person. And so you make excuses for their behavior. When I see this all the time and people like, why?

Why did this person stay? Why did this person do this? Because if they were handicapped, they was crippled. And when you feel like you have no other place to go, you stay in positions that that's abusing you. That's what people do. That's definitely true. But the amount of resources you would have to have to take care of every family where every person is being abused. We have it because we can give it. We can give it. We we we throw away more food in this country. The more country than most countries produce in a year. way more food in this country than most countries produce in a year. Our waste

ratio, if our waste ratio change, then our condition change. Because if you allocate funds to the right thing instead of wasting funds, like even with this, people

say it's a misinformation in certain things. Yes is when you when the federal government doesn't allocate funds to certain people to eradicate the misinformation in me in media in media it's federal funds that go they go out to media companies why you don't get that to some to some of the black media outlets that you say that don't know what's going on because you're not helping you're not helping the situation either you're hurting the situation you're saying that people's number if you know that the number one thing that cripples people in this country is health and then you don't make it where they can have quality free health care in this country, then you don't feel like the consumer that you're you're you're.

The human being. Is the most important commodity on this planet. If you invest in the human being and the human being does. The good works that he's supposed to do with that investment. And they invest in more human beings. You create this utopia of helping and learning and not having a phobia of, hey, Joe, I need your help. That doesn't make me less than a man because I need your help with something. You're supposed to give your fellow man a leg up. That's what you're supposed to do.

Yes. But we live in the what I'm not supposed to do. Yeah, and helping people feels good. It's good for you too. That's one thing we have to get into people's heads. Helping people feels good. It's good for you too. It's like people are selfish.

They don't want to help themselves. They feel like if I'm helping someone else it's taken away from me but that's not the case what is that my as they come from they just they just need a better well it's a it's a famine mindset the famine mindset is there's not enough to go around but there's enough to go around there's enough for everybody you know this is one thing that I always try to instill in comedians because comedians are like notoriously selfish they think about themselves want to get ahead narcissists I want to get ahead. I want to get ahead. Why is he doing that?

Why am I not doing that? I want to get I want to get it If you could help the people around you develop a community when you develop a community Everybody wants everybody to do good in our community. one of us is killing it everybody's happy one of us has a special that special is killing it like you're special which is out on youtube right now when that happens people get excited like god damn look at him look at this guy look at her everybody's killing it that's good for everybody and it gives the people coming up hope like i'm entering into a community if i work hard and if I continue to like honor the craft of stand-up comedy, I'm a part of this very small and tight-knit community of people.

There's not that many of us. And if we do that and we help each other, it's good for everybody. That's the, I think that's why Rodney Dangerfield was one of the ones for me. Yes. When people say, who are your influences? I'm influenced by more than just what you did on stage. You know, it's how your character, how you were as a person.

Yes. And when he was not selfish. Like, hey, man, I got a platform. Everybody is welcome to this platform. If you funny, let's do it. Think about the people that he blew up. Sam Kinison, Dice Clay, Bill Hicks, Dom Herrera, Lenny Clark, Roseanne Barr. Down the line, Seinfeld.

Oh, man. Dude. So many people. It's, and why not want to be that in comedy? Or why leave that to another entity?

Oh, I'm on the all-stars of this. I'm on the actors of that. Like, why leave it to other people and other crafts to heighten your craft? Why leave it to other people and other crafts to heighten your craft? Why leave it to other people from other cities to say, my biggest thing is to get the recognition from my peers. Like, when a comic calls me and says, man, your special, classic. Like, I'm putting it in this space.

Yeah. This is because they know the craft. You're not a spectator. Because to spectators, everybody looks good to spectators. But when the people who know the craft are looking like nah you don't know what you're looking at like you don't know how special this is yeah cuz the special is supposed to be especially supposed to be a piece of the person like and with the the people that call and say hey man this is timeless it's like yo you really put a piece of like man you did it it's it's insane and that's what we

work towards you think about that when you're putting your bits together you're editing them when you're going over i'm going maybe that's a little too long or maybe i need a little something there maybe i need to trim that up or maybe i need to explain that a little bit better you want that thing to when it gets released you get those phone calls like dude that thing was awesome that thing was awesome and then and then you get thank you thank you man appreciate it appreciate it and then you want to do that to other people too you want to be able to call them up and go do your special it was amazing it was that and and that i remember watching i remember watching Dan so was a son of

Gary and I'm sitting there in fucking amazement I'm like yeah I'm like yo this shit is good like I'm a collar yeah feels good I'm sitting there like, this shit is good, man. It feels good to call somebody and tell them that, too. And I'm like, God damn it, Dan, so are you. I'm fucking amazing. And that's the thing. You know, I watch earthquakes, and I felt good for Quake. And that's the thing that you want to do in this business. I remember writing with Bill Bellamy on his special.

And when he's getting ready to go out and we talking and I'm like, my last words like, yo, man, just go and just do what you do. And when it came together, I called him like, yo, I watched it live. I was there through the whole process. And this shit is still good. DL with Clea. I was like, and I think that comics don't understand. I'm not chasing other comics

in an aspect of the new guys I'm chasing the classic like I'm chasing Carlin and Cosby and Pryor and Eddie I'm chasing them so what you're doing doesn't

affect me or change how I'm doing it because man, Sinbad, like the memorable things that I'm like, I want my special to be in that when people say, hey man,

live from Sunset Strip sunset strip elephant in the room domino effect ali stick i like i want to be mentioned amongst that and i tell people i'm i'm not playing the game for riches and all that i'm playing for that yellow jacket you know a lot of people they they satisfaction is you play football and you play through high school, you win a high school championship, great. Then some people want to go to college, win a college championship, great. Some people want to go to the NFL. And get to the NFL, they want to go to the All-Star Games.

And that's fine. Some people want to win a Super Bowl. And that's fine. Some people want to win a Super Bowl. But some guys are playing the game to, at the end of that, receive a yellow jacket. They're not cool with just being there. They want the jacket. They want greatness.

Yeah. Yeah. Aspire always to greatness. Because even if you don't get there, you get pretty fucking excellent. Because if you're trying to get pretty good, you'll get pretty good. But if you're trying to achieve excellence, like real true excellence, where you can be proud of something, you know, even if you don't get to where you wanted to go, you get a lot further than where you would go if you have low expectations. lot further than where you would go if you have low expectations this is the first piece of work that actually changed my mind on something how so people ask me hey man when it comes to storytelling who is your top people who the best storytellers in comedy to you i used to say just like this i I say it would be Cosby,

Carlin, Joey Diaz, Eddie Murphy, me. And I say me, Joey and Eddie, all threes. We third.

And then other people. I looked when I put the special together and I looked at it, and I looked at the craft of the ability to bring people into the story, this is the first time somebody asked me after that, and I said, me, Cosby, then everybody else after that can sort that shit out.

Cosby, then everybody else after that can sort that shit out. But I can't deny myself no more and put myself behind somebody. When it comes to bringing you into a story. It's a different kind of art. Yeah, it's a different art. And I've gotten pretty goddamn good. That's the thing where Ari, when he put together that storyteller show that was his idea he was like these stories are too hard to develop when you're doing a 15 minute set on like a stacked comedy store lineup you know you got 10 fucking

killers you want to kill two and if you're trying to develop a story and it's a story about going to the park with your dad it's's a long-ass story. People are like, where are you going with this? But if you could do it on a show that's just people telling stories, then you could develop it and tighten it and then get to the point where it might be your closing bit. Man, we had already talked yesterday

about this is not happening. Yeah. And he was like, out of all them stories all the shows i've done mexican got on boots is still my favorite goddamn story he said i didn't know you we was gonna put you on the digital side of it and we was looking at the story was like god damn it it's like and he was like i didn't even know what you were talking about and i was hanging on every goddamn word and then it was like oh shit he's this shit's crazy like i'm like no i appreciate then he said the next one was even more, like Mitchell,

it's like then I started thinking like he, his goddamn ability to tell his story, he's seeing it through a different lens, like whatever lens he's seeing it through, he's making me see it through that same lens, and I have no goddamn idea what he's even talking about. That's the beautiful thing about someone when they're really locked in on stage.

I've always said this, I feel like I'm thinking through their mind like i'm allowing them to take over my mind take me on a journey that's why when someone's shitty or hacky or it's like ah why are you using my mind why are you bothering my borrowing my mind you know like i gotta get the fuck out of here i can't watch this i'm super sensitive to bad comedy here. I can't watch this. I'm super sensitive to bad comedy. What? I can't watch it. It's contagious.

It's like if I see you, and I never thought this before until somebody said, hey man, this dude did a bad set and then he tried to shake my hand. I didn't want him to touch me. I didn't want the shit on me. Don't put that shit on me. It's contagious.

And I was like, oh, that's rude as shit. And then somebody did a bad thing, and he walked up to me, and I start walking the other way, like, ah, don't fucking touch me. Don't do that shit. You gonna give me COVID? I don't want that.

Wednesday night, Ron White had his friend. But he claims she's funny. I'm sure she's a nice lady. And anyway, she White had his friend. He claims she's funny. I'm sure she's a nice lady. And anyway, she just didn't belong. You can't follow Ron White when you're an amateur. You just can't. You can't. You can't.

You got to be a fucking touring, rock solid, like set up punchline, bam, bam, bam, good premises. You got to be good to follow Ron fucking White. She was not. And not only did she eat dick, but then she came and hung out with us in the green room. I'm like, fuck, I got to go up next. So Tony's on stage killing, and the first five minutes he's just roasting her. And I'm back there, and she's like making excuses and talking.

I'm like, oh, my God, I got to get out of this room. He dragged her into the green room. Now she's back there just coughing bad comedy at us. Like, oh, no. I'm like, oh, no. So I start playing music loud. I'm moving around. I'm shadow boxing.

I wanted to leave. You wanted to leave too, right? Desiree Chimney was there. I'm not exaggerating, right? No, no. And everybody felt it. Even Ron felt it. He's like, well, you know, it wasn't the best set.

Man, it's weird because me listening, first, big up to Ron White. Classy, very classy man. He's the man. Ron, just imagine getting this phone call. I'm getting ready to do Orlando Improv. My agent, Joe Eshambar, who I love dearly. Joe calls me and says, hey, just want to run this by you. Someone wants to feature for you

i'm like no i'm cool i got i got my feature marcus wildly i'm cool he's like just hear me out he's working on some new stuff he's coming back he just wants to be around a comic who around a comic who is a good comic like Joe was who was this you taking too long he's like Ron white I like I'm not fucking with some guy that has stole Rob's white name like Ron white from Orlando get the fuck out of here he's He's like, no, Ron White White. And I was like, and I doubled down. I'm like, Ron White White? Like the fucking man, Ron White? The man. He's like, yes.

I'm like, I can't even get my yes together. I'm like, fucking yes? Like, yeah. Yeah, I'll get to fucking work with Ron White? Hell yeah. I said, he wants to to he wants to metal he's like yeah he's got like 20 25 minutes I said do he want a headline like I let him headline like relinquish my weekend to Ron White just come feature do some whole shit or whatever he's like no he's

just wanna so I I get there and i'm i'm already anticipating he's a legend he's going to be in the green room doing the and everybody knows like i like to be in my green room first and invite you in but i'm relinquishing all that because it's ron white i get there ron white is the constant professional Ron White. I get there, Ron White is the fucking constant professional. Not in the green room. He comes to the green room, he knocks on the door. I'm like, and I'm sitting there all like, Ron White? Ron White? He got his bus outside, he's hanging in his bus, then he came up and started hanging in the the green with us and he's like look i'm gonna go out here and do the rack of this 20 minutes that i just put together and

trying to get this together now i'm i'm going out and i'm gonna watch this is wrong white stellar 20 minutes it's killing oh i'm i'm i'm so caught up in what he, and they about to introduce me, and I'm in the back, and I'm like, look, shit was amazing. And we talking, and he's like, Ali, you gotta go up. I'm like, oh, shit. So I go up, do my, and he comes in the showroom,

and he's watching from the beginning. And I'm doing my thing. After the show, he comes he comes in he's like look at kid you are incredible like like I tried to give it to you I tried to rattle you because his was so crisp like it was still a class like he's like man it. So the rest of the weekend, we just chatting it up. I'm like, I'm fucking kicking it with Ron White. And then my mom like, man, these places. And every night, he's just giving me a little more something about,

yo, you can go a little deeper in that story, because you had me, you had me, kid. And he noticed that i would start a story and stop and start doing another story and he said you keep leaving the kid like i'm still trying to figure out what happened with your uncle like i didn't go back you're like no you didn't go back like and i'm like oh she's gonna start going back and i'm like like if she knows him like why are you not picking up the jewels from him like she can't you gotta watch if you saw you you can't when did you come wednesday night when what time did you

get to right when i right when i walked in okay Okay. You missed the chaos. It's impossible. You can't fix it. It's like me breathing underwater. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. There's nothing to do. You can't fix it. I mean, maybe on another time

in another state of mind with different material, maybe she could do well. But in that moment, there was no fixing it. There's no advice to be given. She came up with a notebook. Yeah. You came up with a notebook. Yeah.

You came up with notes and panicked. Didn't have the mic close to her mouth. Everything was wrong. Everything. And I don't think she knew she was going to go up until like right before Ron went up. Ron told her that he's going to bring her. I'm going to bring you up. I'm going to bring you up.

Because he came in the background. This was the first problem. He goes, she's a really good writer. Don don't say that this is what i want to hear she's fucking hilarious she's fucking hilarious can she do a guest set okay i didn't well friend of mine's a really good writer i'm like okay what else how is she at delivering this writing? Yeah, I don't think any of my friends I've ever said that they... Bryson Brown is from Austin. He's fucking hysterical.

That's how I introduce him. Like, yo, this is Bryson Brown. He's fucking hysterical. Yeah, you want an overall assessment of their ability on stage, not like a little tiny area that they're good at um it's an important area being a good writer very important but without delivery and timing and presence and never it's are you good hey um she's a good setup she set up jokes excellent she set up tony tony

destroyed that lady that ruthless little motherfucker there is no one alive that you want to bomb in front of when you're going to bring up like Tony because he will he roasted her I mean he had seven or eight solid minutes

just killing her when he went on stage yeah that's it was amazing that's what you do you have to you have to acknowledge

the elephant in the room. And I hate, I used to hate doing it. I used to hate doing it, especially, I used to hate doing it, period. But Bill Bellamy, he's a nice guy, but he has a mean streak in him that is outstanding. On the tour with him, I used to host his tour, and somebody would ask for a guest spot, and he would come in and be like, Ali, triple seven. I'm like, oh, shit.

Who would just ask for a goddamn guest spot? So now people don't know what we about to do to you. Like, I'm going to come out, and usually I would do 15. I just skate into it. But I'm coming out with seven minutes of straight fucking home runs. Pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. I'm stacking this shit on these people.

People still laughing at the first joke. I'm on joke number five. I'm fucking stacking it on. And when I leave them, people are going gonna be still laughing when I bring you up. They not even fucking gonna think about shit you saying because they still laughing from joke number three.

And I'm gonna bring you up. And I'm gonna lead, I'm gonna sit you right in that fucking pressure cooker. And you're gonna, I don't give a damn, you're gonna die if you can't fucking

Surf cuz I put I put a hundred foot wave on your ass. Yes, and Then you die and then I go up and I put another seven minutes of your dying on top of it and Bill's like I hate when people ask us for guest spots like Bill's like, I hate when people ask us for guest spots. I'm like, ah, you fucking evil man. You sent the fucking junkyard dog to destroy somebody. I'm like, eh.

But for that person that did that set and bombed, if they can figure out how to follow you when you're crushing, if they can figure out how to ride that wave, that is so important. That lady, Mitzi Shore, that's what she did every fucking time. If you were a good comic and she thought you had some potential and you were young, she would throw you on after a killer. Who's on?

Who's on the lineup? For me, it was Martin Lawrence in the 90s. Dude, you never saw anybody eat it. Like seeing me going on after Martin Lawrence when he was in the leather jumpsuit days. People don't remember. People don't remember. They don't remember. 95, Martin Lawrence, 1995. My God. My God.

His timing, his facial expressions, the power. Chris Rock, to this day, talks about a time where he bombed going on after Martin Lawrence and it changed his career because he had been doing too many easy shows. He'd been doing too many of those New York City like cellar spots, like everybody's so happy to see you, you can kind of be casual, and he's headlining.

And Martin Lawrence is throwing lightning bolts. Just. The whole room's just. He was so good, he was so dynamic. He would pace the stage. He had so much energy when he would hit his punchlines and hold his facial expressions you'd be like god i can't even watch this i'm gonna i'm going to my death i'm going to my death i went to my death i followed martin lawrence dozens of times dozens you know what i let me tell you what you what I love about an honest comic.

You know how many comics wouldn't say that they went behind somebody that was just fucking an absolute monster. Like, yo man, this shit is a problem. Like, how am I going to match this shit? Like, I can imagine going up after Martin. Martin's still hungry. He out there fucking getting it. He was in his 30s. It's Martin Lawrence in his 30s with a leather jumpsuit on.

You're fucked. You're fucked. People don't remember, man. If you go back to You So Crazy, God damn, he was good. In my mind, he's like, when you talk about the greats, because he went and did the TV show

and didn't tour as much and didn't put out as much comedy material. So a lot of people that weren't around in the 90s forget how good he was. Dude, I ate dick going after that guy. But it taught me. It taught me how to ride the wave. It taught me how to start strong.

It taught me how to cut all the bullshit out. And to look at your act, like, scrutinize it. Look at it with a microscope. Get rid of some of that shit that's not that good. Fix the setup. You better do it right. You better sound like a fucking professional. You're going after one of the best comedians walking the face of the planet.

And back then, he might have been number one. He might have been number one in 95. He might have been number one. He was murdering. I mean, I would be in the back room terrified just hearing the roars. I remember times being places and you going up behind people that are fucking assassins.

Tony Roberts. I don't know if you know Tony Roberts. But he is so quick. It's just rapid fire shit. And people used to be like, ain mean you can't get a bike follow Tony It's no nobody in playing fall time

And I remember being at a spot and if he was like yo Tony's up right now you going up next my cool I had already been able to ride the wave of Like I'm not going up to compete with Tony. I'm going up to do my shit. And I remember being offended during this show that a person thought that I couldn't follow Tony, and they switched up the lineup. And I was fucking pissed.

And I said, okay. And I went out, and I got a standing ovation and Tony Robbins was a person they say he was he said he was right there when the production person said so the first comic got a standing ovation what the fuck do we do now it was like cuz you thought that I was like they they had played me like I was some fucking throw on on the show right and they was like yo they had played me like I was some fucking throw on on the show. And they was like, yo, Ali just got a stint ovation. And DL opened the door of his green room and said, what did y'all think he was going to do? You fucking disrespected him.

Because he's like, yo, he don't. It doesn't matter where I go. Because I know what I'm going to do when I get there and I learned very early on because I was going up behind people that would Benji Brown at the coconut Grove improv some he was he had my folks laughing so hard that a dude came in the green room and sat down and it was laughing he was on his way from the bathroom he just busted the green room and sat down and it was laughing. He was on his way from the bathroom. He just busted the green room and he said, man,

this motherfucker killing me. And he sat down in the green room? Because it was on the way. I'm like, and you could hear it. You could hear it because the green room

was like right behind the stage and you could hear it. Like, Benji Brown is fucking destroying this room and he's doing this character, Kiki. And he's like, yo. And it's

loud-pitched ghetto girl and he's fucking destroying this room. And then he stops and says, let me bring up the next comic. You're like, god damn! It's people dead in here. It's like,

you gotta go out. The Coconut Grove Improv is where I saw Joey Diaz Damn! It's people dead in here. Like, it's like... You gotta go out. The Coconut Grove Improv is where I saw Joey Diaz put people in their grave. Because Joey Diaz would go up there and do half his punchlines in Spanish. And you would have, like, a 40% Cuban audience. And Joey Diaz would have la binga and he would hit some fucking Spanish punchlines. And people would just throw their chairs up in the air. They were falling down to the ground, knocking over tables.

It was chaos. And then Joey was middling. So Joey, this was back in the day when Joey was coming up, and they would have some road act who did HBO in 1984 and kind of still has the same material. And they would have to go on after Joey I saw people quit yes quit that shit is

that shit is fantastic when you like yo man this shit is Damon Wayans Damon Wayans our middle

for Damon Wayans cause whatever his middle of the act was fucking up and he said it was too dark so they called me

and at the end of the weekend david i never went into green room he called me in the green room on sunday come in i'll sit down i'll say hey how you doing this way he said how does it feel to be a fucking assassin i said what he said i used to do it i used to do this to people i used to fucking go to be a fucking assassin. I said, what? He said, I used to do this to people. I used to fucking go on stage and destroy people. You're a fucking assassin. Are you moving to LA?

I'm like, no, I'm right. He's like, fucking assassin. That's a nice feeling. Bobby Lee. Bobby Lee. I'm hosting the show Bobby Lee had a lady that was his middle of the act and after the first show Bobby, we had the Houston Improv

Bobby called me in the room in the green room and said hey, I'm not gonna fire you not gonna fire you just want you to be honest with me are you a host? I'm like, I'm the host. He's like, are you?

You know what the fuck I'm saying. Are you a host? I'm like, no. I fucking knew it. Improv's always doing this shit to me, giving me the strongest motherfucker in the city. He said, he's doing 30 minutes. And I'm like, I'm feeling the rest of the time. He's like, I fucking knew it.

And Bobby was going out doing his closer first. He was like, he's so fucking insane. Wow. He was like, you come to the stage, Bobby Lee. Next thing you know, Bobby Lee's pants are off. Like, dicks out. Dicks out. I'm starting with this.

Not fucking finna bury me Behind the fucking host I'm not doing it Like Sometimes you have to do that You have to go out With your strongest shit first You can't

Dilly dally Yeah When someone murders You better Take them up To the same RPMs And the thing is Don't

I won't I won't The young commies out there That's listening probably Don't think that you Murdering a headliner With the young comics out there that's listening probably, don't think that you're murdering a headliner with the local shit. Like, if it's local, you're not, I'm on Martin Luther King.

Get the fuck out of here. Everybody got Martin Luther King. If you murder, you got to murder with your shit. Real shit. Real shit. It can't be the fluff. You know, I lived in Boston, and there were some of the best comics alive back then, but they all had local shit. Real shit. It can't be the fluff. You know, I lived in Boston, and there were some of the best comics alive back then, but they all had local shit.

And when they would go on the road, like local shit in Boston would kill at 100%. You go on the road, it was 30%. It was like the same bits. Nobody knew what the fuck you were talking about. Nobody cared about that accent. Nobody cared about those references to like the Red Sox. Nobody gave a fuck. And all those bits were useless. And those guys just stayed. that accent nobody cared about those references to like the red socks nobody gave a yeah and all those bits were useless and those guys just stayed some of the best comics i've ever seen in my life

they lived in boston they stayed in boston and they got trapped they got trapped by local there were local celebrities and they got trapped doing local they never did the road And I'm just saying, if you want to know how not to be locked into local shit, even if you're in a place where you started, look at my special. I shot my special in Houston. You can't tell it's Houston. I'm talking about things in Houston, but from a wide-eyed lens. But it's not about Houston. I'm talking about things in Houston but from a wide-eyed lens. But it's not about Houston. It's about life.

It's about life. It's good. It's very good. And it's very intimate, which is I like. I like a special in a comedy club. I really do. I think there's something better about a... If I'm watching at home, I'm in my living room, I want to watch it in an intimate environment. I want to be in an intimate environment in the audience. If I'm watching someone on stage and they're in my living room. I wanna watch it in an intimate environment, I wanna be in an intimate environment in the audience.

If I'm watching someone on stage and they're in a fuck, like Kevin Hart did his shit in like 50,000 people. It's like Jesus Christ, how do I even pretend I'm there? But when I'm watching you, and I'm watching you on stage at a comedy club, there's a normal sized stage, intimate with the audience, you're seeing the people in the front row, you're smiling, you're having fun,

I'm like, I'm there, I'm there. You locked in the moment. You locked in, where'd you do it? Houston Improv. Ah. Can't tell because of the curtain in the background. Yeah, we piped. That's a great fucking room.

Yeah, it is. That's a great fucking room. 400 people and me. That's nice. And we just went on a, and the crazy thing is when people know that they coming to see you do the journey yeah and it's weird because the people who can't I did I did it during the weekend that I was there so the people who saw me saw the show on Thursday and Friday's like that shit didn't

happen so the people who saw it on Saturday got the whole Hollywood right cause you know Eric Abrams the same person who shot my stuff

for Comedy Central and This Is Not Happening with Ari I got I got them I wanted that look

and Eric is a fucking great director like it's really not about him it's about what you want and he just suggests like what do you what do you think about what do you think about this like I wasn't thinking about it but not now that i am you know he just suggests like do you really need that you like i don't and it comes together him and him and jordan jordan did the the lights and

it it looks like that was one of the things and especially when somebody notices it when my guy called me and said man let me tell you the most amazing shit it looks like a class it looks like 1985 i'm like pull it up jamie let me see let me see the video because there's something about get a get a look at it like look at man that's classic classic comedy club it's perfect perfect. Perfect size stage. Perfect intimacy with the crowd. I was thinking that, man, because I just did stand-up live with Tony. I did a guest set. I was not even supposed to be there.

In Phoenix? Phoenix, yeah. I fucking love that club. I fucking love that club. And I was there, and I was thinking, God damn, maybe I should film my fucking special here. Yo. It's so good. God damn, maybe I should film my fucking special here.

It's so good. It's some comedy clubs that I think that I've set up so perfect. Man, Stand Up Live in Phoenix, Zany's in Nashville. Yes. Zany's in Nashville is flawless. Oh, my God, it's a great club. God damn, it's good. Levity Live in West Nyack. Yep, yep.

That's a great one. This is what we ought to do. I always put myself in shit. I just told Ari that we had to do a festival. We travel to festivals around the world. He's Jewish, I'm Muslim, like the Muslim Jew Festival Review with me and Art. Just going to weird-ass festivals. We ought to see, between me and you, take a month to go to all these clubs

and see how many specials we can shoot in these clubs in, in a month. You mean just shoot all the film, all the shows, 30, 30 minutes. We go to these,

these clubs and shoot a new 30 minutes in each one. So you, you do 30. He does 30. No, me and you, this is me and you,. So you do 30, he does 30? No, me and you. This is me and you. You do 30, I do 30

in each one of these great film clubs and put it out as a series of going to clubs, the best comedy clubs to shoot, especially. Comedy Works in Denver is another one. I've never played it. What?

I've never played it. It? I've never played it. It's like I'm boxed into some weird shit that's behind the scenes that I don't know what's going on. What do you mean? You tried to get in? I'm waiting to get in. I'll get you in. I'll get you in today. I want to because I've heard some.

I'll call Wendy today. I would love to. Yeah, let's do that. I'll fix that. Yeah. Yeah, you need to be there. That's one of the great clubs of the world. Man, what's another great club that,

like these are clubs that people don't talk about. Like I hear about the Cellar, and I'm not knocking the Cellar, but you know another club that they remodeled? He remodeled it, and I think I was the first person in there when he remodeled it. It's weird looking, but it's so fucking intimate

the comedy zone in Charlotte never done it it's fucking it's so intimate and they around you like improv is a fucking great club another club DC Improv

amazing club DC Improv. Oh, it's an amazing club. Amazing club. DC Improv's flawless. Flawless. It's no, man, it's fucking, it's nice. It's flawless. It's perfect. Perfect comedy club. Yeah.

Yeah. There's a few of those. Perfect height ceiling, perfect size stage, connected to the crowd. Rick Bronson's don't look bad to shoot them in. It's a Rick Bronson's. They're only good with that fucking... That Stand Up Live is fucking... Stand Up Live in Phoenix

is one of the great clubs. And it's big. 600 seats. It's big. But the roar. The roar when you're killing. Okay, they moved the Hollywood improv to, I think it's Dana Beach. It's an improv in Florida.

So they moved it out of the Hard Rock? They moved it out of the Hard Rock. It's Dana Beach now. That's a nice-ass club. I haven't been in a year. Oh! What you think about Cobb City? Which one? Cobb's. Cobb's Comedy Club. The old Cobb City? Which one?

Cobb's Comedy Club. The old Cobb's was amazing. I used to take a pay cut to do the old Cobb's because I used to do the punchline, which was great. The punchline's still great. But Cobb's, the old Cobb's, was so intimate. It was maybe 140, 150 people just stuffed into a room and it was just perfect it was so intimate and then the new cobs it's like this big high ceiling and then there's a balcony but it's way in the back and the balcony is way in the back, and it's like elevated. It's weird. It's not bad.

It's a great place, but it's not perfect. Funny, some of these clubs, I don't even think, maybe it's me, because I guess I don't have a permanent audience just yet, but some of these clubs, when you go in, it's not even the club. The club is fucking fantastic, but the audiences that come there, you're like, I don't, hey, look, do I need to read all the shit that I read first and tell y'all about it so I can come do it, so you can be familiar with some of the shit that's going on in the fucking world?

Like where? Like what place? Right off the bat, Toledo, Toledo, Ohio is like fucking pulling teeth. It sounds like a place where you'd be pulling teeth. Toledo. Fuck, man. I'm going to say sometimes syracuse is fucking weird upstate new york's weird period yeah syracuse albany you're like god damn it man um anything outside of chicago any of the clubs around outside of Chicago you like god damn y'all don't read but that Levittown that that was that what it is Liberty Live no no the the the improv no Shomsburg that's

what it is Shomsburg yeah oh that's kind of Chicago it's uppity as shit it's like suburbs it's like I don't know what the fuck you saying like you don't you fucking know like good damn it Chicago though Chicago is a great comedy city. Fuck that's a great city. I miss jokes and notes. That was a place that I, and I played the Zany's there once. There was a great, it was a great experience.

I like, I like some of the old nostalgia clubs too. When I go there, you know that it's been here for a long ass time and, or a weird, like a weird spot that I go to, the Punchline in Atlanta, where it's inside the Landmark, the Landmark Diner. I hate the green room, but I like the fact that I walk through some crowded, chaired room,

and it feels like they still smoking in the room. Yeah. Yeah. The old punchline was great. Oh man, it was beautiful. It was amazing.

That was amazing. That was an amazing room. And they got rid of it. I was like, fuck. Well, I think they lost the lease

or something like that. It's just like, being a comic and being a professional comic and being able to work these places and touring the road, when I was being a professional comic, being able to work these places and touring the road. When I was a kid, man, that seemed to me to be like an impossibility.

To be a headliner and touring the road and being able to work these fucking amazing clubs like the Punchline, like Zany's. It's like that was always the dream. One of the things I love about those old places too, Zany's Is you get to like look in the wall And you'll see like old headshots Headshots from the early 80's Faded I think they This is a room that I like

That I'm very very comfortable in What is it It is in It's in North Carolina as well Charlie Goodnight's Yes That's a great room I think they move in North Carolina as well. Charlie Goodnight. Yes. That's a great room.

I think they move in the building as well. I think they did something different there. I haven't been to the new place. Man, I like it because I would go down and look at the old pictures and then go play. Because it's a nostalgia to some of these rooms. Yeah. And I like going there but when you think about shooting the room feels warm and you feel like i can do some other things to the room to make it

a little warmer and just go in and fucking crush it yeah like yeah they got good audiences in certain places well they have a long history of having shows. Like, Charlie Goodnight's been around a long time, so everybody's come through there. So all the people that live in that area know that you go to Charlie Goodnight's on any Friday and Saturday night, you're going to get great comedy. They only get great comedians there. It's like, if you're going to work there, it's a classic club.

Yeah, it is. There's also a next-door honky-tonk bar, and that was my first experience with country western music. Like live. Like not even live. But just like in a place where people listen to it. We went over there. It was me and Duncan and I think Joey.

And we went next door. And they're playing music that I've never heard before. But everybody knows the words. And they're all singing along. Down by the river. You know like they're all singing along to these songs. And fucking hooting and hollering and like this is like i stepped into another dimension like what is this it is man it's weird that i can go into this same dimension alan jackson like like i i grew up i didn't listen to country music, but I knew about country music because my granddad would watch westerns and, you know, you listen to Hank Aaron.

Not Hank Aaron. Hank Williams. Hank Williams. And then this guy, Alan Jackson. I'm just flipping through the stations one time. jackson i'm just flipping through the stations one time and i heard you know like when you go to another city you put on scan and going through the radio station trying to find radio station and way downtown on the chattahoochee this song i was like in it here look at him look at look at that outfit what when did that fucking song come out that must be like 1985 or something

like that like look at the way he's dressed no it can't be got to be. Seems like it's from another time. Way down yonder on a Chattahoochee. Way down yonder. I just was stunned by the fact that there was like a whole other world that I didn't know about, this country western world, and all these people were into it. And then I would do local radio, and they'd want to talk to me about NASCAR. Did you see NASCAR? Did you see what Dale did? And you're like like what are you talking about like they were everybody knew they knew about nascar the way most people know about the super bowl yeah i i've been to nascar

what's it like one time one time and dana was the this is the first time that she was the lead car Dana, this was the first time that she was the lead car. So get there. It's an amazing experience. Like we went into the pit. We went into the trailers. Like they have enough stuff in a trailer to build another car. Like they tell you how many cars they carry with them just in case something happens.

And they have enough stuff in their trailer to rebuild a car. And some of the pit crews are ex-football players that got in this just for competition. I didn't know they had pit crew competitions to see who can change everything the fastest. And a lot of these people are ex-football players that still need the competition and they getting it on. And so I never forget about how when the race started, all these cars take off and it's so loud. And how I was rooting for the last car so all these cars were then there's one car come i was like go

he like he lapped him he like he's fucking last last but the incredible thing was Ray Lewis did the startup, did the start. Walt Frazier was there and all the attorneys, all the attorneys for NASCAR were young black women that graduated from law school

and they were all their attorneys. They did all the legal stuff. But the audience is all white people just, school and there were all their attorneys like they did all the legal so I was like but the audience is all white people just it was food it was like the campers and some of the littlest shorts you ever wanna see on a human being like damn like all this shit was exciting to me I'm like yo why does she have on boots with these shorts like this you know what I want to go to that I haven't been to the Kentucky Derby I was in town one time when the Kentucky Derby was I heard it's wild could not find I had to stay in

across the river like it was no hotels in town I was trying to stay at the Silbach and all that like no and it was so ritzy like i didn't get a chance to go but i would love to go i heard it's wild i had no interest until i read the kunducky derby is decadent and depraved by hunter s thompson i read that i was like jesus christ and his depiction of all these rich fucked up people gambling and betting on these horse races and what the the scene is like that it's this wild social scene of these Decadent depraved people all getting together and I was like, oh my god. I gotta go I Need to book a gig around it our our our interest in the same thing comes from so far different places. You want to go to, I hear all the rich people doing so much.

I want to see the chaos. I want to go to the Kentucky Derby because the first 15, when I read about the Kentucky Derby, how it started, the first 15 were all won by African American jockeys and how the purse came about and the history of it and that's why I want to go

I want to see the chaos well I'm a giant Hunter S. Thompson fan you know and so like when I read his writing about it it just like brought me there like I could I was appreciating his appreciation of the this just the fucking scene just the wild scene of it all and how crazy it was him as a writer as a journalist going there to cover it and he's covering it

on acid and he's all fucked up and they're drinking all day and you know and Hunter's writing was always like that it was always this wild mixture of pure exaggeration and fiction with fact and reality and like a an assessment of the social dynamics like a psychological examination of the people that were involved when did he write about it that was one of the first pieces that he did. I believe he did that before he did his big Sports Illustrated piece, which turned out to be Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. 1970. Yeah.

So that was... Yeah, they had merged. And then Fear and Loathing was when? I think Fear and Loathing was his breakout thing. They hired him. I feel like they hired him for Sports Illustrated to go and write about. 71 is when that was published. Yeah.

So it was like the same time. And when was the first Kentucky Derby ever ran? Oh, God. Look how hot. Let's take a guess. Let's take a guess. I'm going to say 1920. I'm going to say 1890.

Yeah, I think it's like 100. I've done 100 plus. 1875. 1875. 1875. But when a thing becomes a thing, like a place where people go and they know they're going to go get fucked up and they know they're going to gamble

and it becomes a thing. They wear the big hats with feathers and shit and the ladies wear all their jewels. What is going on here? Is this at the Kentucky Derby? Yeah, they just run... He's running across porta-potties and people are cheering him on.

Like this kind of shit. And they're throwing bottles at him. Yeah. Like they bing, bong, bong. There he goes. He's down. It's so far different

from the original Kentucky Derby. Yeah. Did he fall in the shit? Oh, it looks like it. Oh, no. Did he? Is he covered in shit?

It could have been raining. They could have been doing like mud sliding or something too. He's drinking? Oh, God. Jesus Christ. Oh, Jesus Christ that he definitely fell in

the shit ah that's so unnecessary that's so unnecessary but that's he wrote i wonder if hunter like caused more people to act more crazy there because his writing was so influential and so popular i wonder if he probably accentuated the experience for people that wanted to go to just get fucked up and just watch. But it's like you have the aristocrats, the socialites, the people that go there and they wear their expensive suits and their big rings

and they pull up in chauffeured cars and they get out. And do a bunch of debauchery right after that. Yeah, debauchery. It's right after that. Yeah, debauchery. It's right after that, just, eh. Yeah. I don't have on underwear. Really?

I don't know all this shit, but I don't have on underwear. Like, you think about these experiences that people have at these kind of places. Like if you're one of those people, you're like some oil baron, and you got crazy money, and every year you go to the Kentucky Derby. I imagine you just get used to being around all those other kind of people and then every year everyone kind of ramps it up a little bit you know ramp up the chaos

ramp up the cocaine so that is that how Mardi Gras started I think a question my did Mardi Gras get started Mardi Gras was good like that's what Carnival is a pretty intense I've never been to that have you been in rio yes really yes that's wild oh man the oh it's like you're famous for people it's like new year's eve on steroids it's i went to this club called help Discotheque, and you need it. Help Discotheque, I went on Adam and Eve night, where they give you a leaf. You put your clothes up and they give you a leaf,

and you in the club, just a leaf on. That's it? And this club holds like four or 5,000 people. All with leaves on. And it's so crazy that they know that you cannot get to the bar. They know that you can't get to the bar. They have bartenders with coolers strapped to them on the floor in different places. And they flip the cooler up and they make your drink right there because they know you're not going to be able to get to the bar.

It's insane in this spot. It's a live band. It's like 12-piece live band, and it's fucking insane. And if it's 5,000 people, it's 1,000 men and 4,000 women. If it's 4,000 people, it's 3,000 women and 1,000 men. And I know we went in, it was maybe about 12. I know I came out, it was 8.30 in the morning. I know for facts it was 8.30 in the morning.

And it's right off the beach beach and it's like this shit is insane and you when you fall down they're like yo and you look it's like people you not even that you didn't even see in there you're like oh she was in there I can't like damn where was she at like because you and your element like I never left once I walked through upstairs I never came back like I walked through downstairs I went upstairs I never left. Once I walked through upstairs, I never came back. Like, I walked through downstairs. I went upstairs. I never came back downstairs until it was time to leave.

Like, I never came back downstairs. Like, it wasn't happening. I was having a great goddamn time. Like, I walked out of my hotel, and it was maybe like 30,000 people on the street, on a side street, dancing. And it was people on a bus, people on the street, on a side street, dancing. And it was people on a bus, people on the street, and I just walked into this shit

and I was like, I was just like, like I was just in, man, Rio was insane. They know how to party in Brazil. Ah.

They know how to party in Brazil. And I went to the corner of that where, I think people don't understand that this is neighborhood versus neighborhood. The Samba team is representing a neighborhood.

So it's like just put 12 football fields together. Right. Stack them up. That's how they coming down the street. And it's people on both sides that's cheering for their Samba team. It's insanity, man. I've never

partied. It had to be a million people. And once, like going in and coming out was so insane. Like I partied in, I partied out, I partied to concessions, I partied in the line, go to the bathroom. Man, I may have had sex on the street.

Like, I don't know what I was doing. I was fucking insane over there. Like, it was, man, I probably have a child over there. I don't know. I got married. Look at it. Yes, this shit. Holy shit.

Look at that lizard. I'm over there. I'm over there on the side. Look at it. Yes, this shit. Holy shit. Look at that lizard. I'm over there. I'm over there on the side. Look at the lizard and the mushrooms. Oh, my God. That's incredible. And this is a- The size of that thing.

This is a neighborhood. So when you win, your neighborhood gets money. Like, for the- Like, this is a- Everybody that's on this, that's from this, is from the same neighborhood. Look at the fucking jellyfish. That's insane. This shit, you got, people got to see this shit live.

This shit is insanity. Oh, my God. And it's not one altercation. That's amazing because Brazil's a wild ass fucking place. Yeah. But they put it all aside for carnival? Yeah, man. Look at this.

Oh, my God. These floats are incredible. These people on top of them. Look at the size of these things.. These floats are incredible. These people on top of them. Look at the size of these things. And this is an honored position to be a part of the summer team. Look at the size of that. Yo. Wow.

And they represent the neighborhood. And this shit is bananas. Wow. It's bananas. I've been to Brazil a few times for fights. They are some of the wildest, rowdiest crowds. And especially when Brazil, look at that, man. This fucking dragon, holy shit.

Look at the size of that thing. How long does it take to construct these things? Man, this is a big thing. Right after this, they start for the next year. Wow. This is a big thing. And they representing. So, man, this shit is incredible.

It's incredible. And this is all themed. This is all themes. Holy shit. Like, I know America think they do live ass parties but this is this is like 12 Super Bowls happening at the same time like who is that supposed to be is that Bolsonaro could be it could be like Gulliver's Travels right because those people were climbing is fucking insane

look at the size of that thing. And they lift, and he was laying down at first. Look at this. This is what I'm saying. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's incredible. I did a movie live from Rio, and we was at this.

You did a movie there? Yeah, live from Rio with my boy Ben Williams. What was it? It's called live from rio it's 10 black guys traveling we were supposed to just start we were supposed to go here then we're supposed to go to tokyo was like a documentary movie like no we was just traveling and hanging out just 10 men out and about and so you just filmed it. Yeah Is that out? Can someone see that? Yeah, I from Rio on the on the cover is me and his guy named G G got killed by um a tenant

Like he um in his building. Yeah, it is house like he was written his house out in the tenant killed him Weird but I still have some I still have some of the DVDs that we did from that and who kid did the arm the soundtrack for the DJ the soundtrack home after that um Snoop and Pharrell went to Brazil and shot and shot they feel shot a video video Brazil was bananas I think Brazil were was Amsterdam was a wild time for me I had a good time in Amsterdam but Brazil by far Brazil just the history of Brazil when it comes to wild shit. I mean, that's the birthplace of the UFC. They figured that shit out a long time ago.

They were doing no rules fights in the 1940s. Elio Gracie was fighting people from Japan in the 1940s. They would have these big fights. They'd come over. Speaking of fights, June 12th, me and a comic named Steve Brown are supposed to spar, do something. He said he's going to do something. I don't know what he's going to do.

What do you mean? Like a boxing match? Yeah. Really? Yeah. He saw me on Instagram. He thinks he can box? I think I can take it.

Oh, boy. He told somebody else, and then they told me. I was like, what? How much does he weigh? He say 194. So he weighs 215. I said it off the top. I'm like, yo, he 205, 210.

And then I already know it because he don't know how much he goddamn weigh. And then, and that's my boy James. That's my trainer, James. And he, Steve Brown, put it on there that he wanted to do something. I'm like, well, I come in town. And then people, there you go, Steve Brown. Well, people can't do this to me. You can't say you want to box me.

You know my schedule. I'm not going to be in town until the, I'm in town on the 10th and 11th. Well, you know I'm out of town. I say, well, stay around. Stay around. And then we'll get it in. And James, as soon as James heard it, James was like, shit. Do you want this guy to lose any weight?

What do you weigh? Like 170? No, I'm 160. 160. Yeah. I'm going to go down. By the time we fight, I'll go down 10 pounds. And he is going to what?

Probably weight come in at 310.10 and that's gonna be the worst day of his life he coming because he's gonna be exhausted like i'm gonna i'm i can move around on him for at least the first round and then start punishing him it's because how many rounds you're gonna do he said three and i was like oh make it five yeah let's take let's go a little deeper yeah that's me i'm like whatever man because i know i think people don't understand about and I was like, oh. Make it five. Yeah, let's take, let's go a little deeper. Yeah. That's me. I'm like, whatever man

because I know, I think people don't understand about boxing. This is a, when you fighting, your mental condition has to be, physical condition

definitely has to be in order but your mental condition because this is not the punching bag. This is not the gloves. Right. And are you conditioned for a like spawn when you spa the next day some shit is wrong like why my why my neck don't move yeah cuz you fucking got hit somebody push

your fucking neck to the side that you didn't realize. Like, all this shit is bad. Yeah. But body shots, body shots hurt. Like, hurt a lot. Oh, yeah. And if you're not conditioned for that type of punishment, because you're going to get hit. No matter how big and how good you think you are, you're going to get hit. And I'm not going to take no steam off of a punch for you.

And I say, well, we're doing headgear, no headgear. Even the headgear is a problem. Headgear is not good. I'd rather have no headgear. I'd rather have no headgear. Can't see that good. Especially when somebody keep turning your goddamn headgear. Yeah.

And there's a real argument that it causes more of a rotation of the head because it puts a bigger fulcrum. Like you have more weight on the head and there's more mass. So if somebody clips you and your head's spinning more and your brains rattle around inside your head more. Because you only get your head gear turned and now you can't see. It's going to be some more shit coming behind. Is this something you wanna do a lot of?

Like is this someone talks shit and you're ready to do it? My thing, my ultimate thing was I wanted Cat. Cat said he started boxing. Oh, I know, we talked about that last time. Has he responded? He not gonna respond, because he know the type of fucking punishment that is going to, man, like, I'm not going to lose. I want to beat you.

But I think I'm easing up on him because people, I'll be like, you need to let some things go. And I'm like, yo, watch this special. It's hard for me to let things go. It's very hard for you to let things go. And I'm like, yo, watch this special. It's hard for me to let things go. It's very hard for me to let things go. But it's, I don't mind the physical combat of fight. I think it's a stress reliever. I think when you get a chance to go with somebody that wants to go, that's the thing.

You gotta be with somebody who wanna to go. That's the thing. You got to be with somebody who want to box and who want to fight. Like with me and James, James is a professional fighter. And when he want to go, you know, let's go. And I know this is going to be a hard day because he's, no matter how the shit starts, me and you can start and once you get hit, the shit changes. Like, yo, I know I leave my friend, but I'm finna fuck him up.

Now it becomes a fight. I gotta get my lick back. I gotta get this. It gets chippy. It's hard to find sparring partners where you can just spar. Where you just get hit like that. Where you're not getting lit up. Where you're not in a fight. partners where you could just spar where like you just get hit like that get hit like that where you're not getting lit up yeah where you're not in a fight you know it's just sparring some guys

if they're cool with you and you're cool with them you could just spar and you touch them you touch each other and you can do that a lot and it's very beneficial yeah because you get your timing in and you get real rounds in it's not, but it's tightening you up for fighting. So you'll have these reflexive movements. Like you'll see a check hook, and it's just there. It just comes out because you've done it so many times. Yeah, like my man Todd Emanuel just fought Victor Ortiz. Really?

Victor Ortiz is still fighting? Yeah. What is he doing now? Him and Todd Emanuel, i think it's on youtube too that fight with floyd mayweather was one of the weirdest fights ever he headbutted him he headbutted him and then he tried to apologize and floyd said yeah yeah boom dropped him with a left hook it was like oh no and then stopped him that was see if you can pull that up. It is one of the craziest fights ever. He fights out of the same gym, Main Street fighting gym.

So this just happened. Regis Provost. He's a fight out of the same gym. Oh, this is on the Lemieux undercard. Was it Benavidez who fought Lemieux? Yeah, Benavidez fucked up Lemieux. So Todd, he was in his house. in his how do against Victor T's big sigh it was a good fight do you lose he lost did I think it went to the scorecard

Victor Ortiz was a world-class fighter at one point in time I think I think um Todd you know when you watching the fight like he he hit me and give me some tips upon something I'm like Todd I'd be like yo he was doing something you know when you watching the fight you like why the fuck because you sitting there like why the fuck you keep doing that like when they would break Victor would just start like soon as they break soon as they go back in he started throwing punches and todd he covering up and i'm like fucking don't do that just and every time he didn't do that like he he didn't cover up he soon as victor came in he hit him with one like keep doing that shit

and i think that sometimes because it's a mental game it's like it's also you're looking for breaks guys look at take a little break let me know what which cover up here so here it is so this is when victor teaches in his prime and you know it was a good fight i mean he had tagged floyd and look at that there's the headbutt there's the headbutt and i think then look at this i'm sorry i'm sorry and then he hugs him he kisses him i didn't see the kiss then and they take a point away from when he touches gloves like I'm sorry I got carried away and touched me okay okay okay boom bang yeah that was crazy fuck is you here but me no but it's also like defend yourself at all times like he thought that they were gonna like be friends and they just get stopped like

that I mean is the end of his career Essentially because he never really reached world-class level again where people were thinking about him as being a world champion That was the fight and he had been in movies, right? Yeah, he'd been in a couple of movies wasn't even like the Expendables or something like that. He was like a big movie So and that was it. Yeah, that's the same attack on floyd he was attacking todd and todd was todd i think todd knocked him down in like the last round like he got him and it was i think the scorecard was too late or something i don't know but how old is he now victor's got to be like 37 38 years old now right

if i'm guessing 35. man so when that floyd fight happened he had to be in his early there you go he got him there you go i got it let me see that again oh yeah come on hit him with it bow oh that left hook And the right hand behind it Yeah he got it Oh he dropped him Yeah

Shit I got it there 35 He's like yeah you got me You know what's crazy Crazy is that Floyd Is still doing these exhibitions Making millions

Oh did you see The one he just did Yeah he looked fantastic I'm sorry He's like I ain't got no haircut for this shit. I think he's enjoying that look. Going out whooping people's ass

like, yo, for millions of dollars, I ain't gotta promote this shit. I'm just showing up, giving out ass whoopings. It's like Floyd wait to get hit to see where you at with your power. I'm like, okay, now i'm gonna fucking demolish you he was holding the ring card girl's card and walking around do you see what he was doing oh

shit he held up the card in between rounds you walk floyd walked around with the card he put on a show because he's like he's it's really smart because he's giving them his the money's worth it's not just a boxing exhibition he's putting on a show. He's laughing and dancing. He's got a big smile on his face while the fight's going on. Chris and Carvel. And that was a guy who he had sparred before. Would you fight?

No. No. I'm too banged up. I'm too old. I'm not interested anymore. Muscle memory alone, you'll probably take somebody out just just mere muscle memory i'm not yeah i mean probably i could fuck some people up i'm not interested it's a man it's an old man in our gym main street he he looks like a problem like just from he's so rugged and so hard that i would never even play

with him like just go up and put your hands up just for muscle memory alone he'll destroy you just like like he just does it so much like the it's a. Some guys can keep it up. Like Floyd, 45 years old, looks fucking amazing. The best example is Tyson, 55 years old, and they're still talking about him fighting either Logan or Jake Paul. Like that is crazy. And I don't know what would happen. Oh, man. If Logan Paul would beat Tyson, I would fucking just die.

I think Jake would probably be the better fight. Jake, whatever the heavier dude. The better one is Jake. Jake's the one who knocks people out. Logan's more of a boxer. I would fucking just die. I can't believe that would happen. I would just, I'm like, because Floyd, when he fought Floyd, I think Floyd was really, when Floyd got tired of the bullshit, he just.

Yeah, he put it on him. He put it in. But he's so big. And I think that he, I think that one of them punches kind of just wobbled the shit out of him. And Floyd was holding him up like, yo, don't fuck up your money. Listen, God damn it. You think so? don't fuck up your money listen goddamn it hold on it's parts in that fight where Floyd was like yo let me show you I don't give a shit how big you are you not on this level oh he's definitely

not on that level but I think he was too big and he was I'm telling you it's it's a part in that fight where Floyd snapped his neck back and I was like oh shit he gone and Floyd was like you could see Floyd holding him up like don't fall big motherfucker i didn't notice that i noticed floyd was definitely out boxing the shit out of him but the difference between floyd and mike tyson is floyd's 155 pounds mike tyson's 220 solid as a rock even if he's 55 he's on all the mexican supplements he's on everything they got they use electrical muscular stimulation on him You know what they do ever seen those things they do to build you up

He does exercises where they put these he talked about it on the podcast where they do these uh these pads Connected to wires yeah, and so he's doing these exercises And these things are like charging his muscles, and it makes your muscles develop faster and better. Oh, shit. Yeah, so when he got back into shape, yeah. My wife does that shit. You slap these electrodes on you and do squats and shit. It stimulates your muscles.

It's painful, but apparently it has a big effect on the way your muscles grow. I would love to go on the hot box and talk to Tyson. He's great to talk to. He gets so high. Just to talk to um tyson he's great to talk to just to he gets so high just to talk to him about his his stay in prison what was it like it was different than because i know this is the thing about what people don't understand about prison people are well tyson was in there like who gives up like in prison i wouldn't be scared because you can't be scared of anyone.

Like you can't show that and you have to respond. Like I wonder what people, because I know people in there that would be like, this dude named Brown. Like I never would tell this story, but with Brown, Brown was a fucking monster. Like I remember being an SSI, it's like you're a custodian and i was cleaning up lock up and i didn't know what brown looked like i just heard him he was in the cell he was in closed custody and he would be hitting this metal door when like he was pissed he would be hitting this door boom boom boom it was like a fucking silverback gorilla was in this goddamn place.

I was like, who the fuck is that? Like, oh, that's Brown. And when you would feed him, you got to give people their trays, and you can't really see because it's a little box. When they let him out of closed custody, I mean, I actually laid eyes on Brown the day that he came out. He came out of the cell and he ducked it's like the fucking Green Mile and I had never even saw the Green Mile

Brown is a huge 6'8 man that was fucking he was huge it was another guy on the unit named Wynn that was from Vegas he was black. And it was another guy on the unit named Wynn that was from Vegas. He was black and Italian. That's how I learned about the Pink Floyd album. He sung every song. He knew every song. My favorite song was Comfortably Numb. He would sing that shit all the time.

And he's this Italian dude. And he's huge. He looked like Lou Ferrigno. He's huge. And I weighed by what? One, 120, 125. And Brown and Wynn fucking loved me. And they would always be fucking me. I'd be playing basketball and they would,

they had universal weights on this particular unit and they needed more weight because they would do the stack and they needed more weight, and I'm like the perfect size. And Brown and Wynn, you would see them walking towards the court, and I'd be coming down the court. I'm like, yo, man, go on with that bullshit. They were like, man, either we're going to fuck up the game or you're going to come over and let us get a couple sets in.

Everybody was like, man, fuck y'all. Y'all ain't the ones got to go and stand on this shit. Like I'm standing on the universal weights.'m like yo two sets that's it i'm gonna step on your chest and i'm on top of the universal ways i'm holding on to the usc brown yeah that's what i'm talking about i'm standing away i'm like i hate y'all and brown used to we had this thing called jack mac that we would eat and most people chopped it up and put it in soups and with mayonnaise and all this other to make it a spread he would pull it out the can and just put it on bread the bones the skin everything he would drink the juice and just be like yeah youngster these people don't know. And he was so big, but he was like a fucking tame bear when he would talk to me.

He was like, man, my mama died. I ought to kill everybody. I'm like, brown ass, not the way you saw that. How old were you? I was, what, 22? You were 19 when you went in? Yeah. What'd you go in for?

Being a street pharmaceutical rep, which is very frowned upon. Street pharmaceutical rep. Very frowned upon. What a great description. A street pharmaceutical rep. But meanwhile, being a regular pharmaceutical rep, you could do far more dangerous things. Yep. Crush people's lives far more destruction yeah

sanctioned legal action yeah and not only that you can hire a lobbyist yeah I might a lobby for you yeah the world needs to use opioids yeah more more everywhere fit no I heard they're not even addictive. Yeah. We gotta study. A street pharmacy. It'll go around. Meanwhile, somebody's scratching at your door, cat, cat, you have more fentanyl. It's not addictive, not addictive, get him out of here.

It's not addictive. Like, yeah, okay. It's a weird thing. Last year, they had the highest number of deaths ever from overdoses. It's the number one cause of death between people age 18 to 49. Wow. Over 100,000 people. I'm still thinking diabetes, but.

I don't think so. Diabetes is probably like number three. I think heart attack is number two. What is a cause of death 18 to 49 i believe number one is opiates and it's all a lot of it is uh fentanyl that's getting mixed into street drugs like people who buy ecstasy they think it's just ecstasy it's got fentanyl buy coke it's got fentanyl in it so those people like that shit that happened those comics in LA that was coke with

fentanyl me um I look back and I and I noticed that I wasn't that type of person the all throughout the all throughout my years of destruction I wasn't that type of like this special is from from 10 to 15 the next one would be from 16 to 19 but in that I wasn't because I didn't I didn't when the special when people watch it they'll know that I'm not this hardcore criminal or I came from some bad family where you had to sell drugs and make it like my mom had a job. And I'm just out being influenced by the people that's outside.

I never understood a couple things in that life. I never understood, as I got older, I never understood why i was no honor amongst these why were you making these transactions so dangerous and so hard and then i never understood people doing things to their customers just for the to stretch it or you know like adding drugs to the drug that you're selling like like i never understood that desire in in that like i still don't understand like why would you mix something with something else it's like what's the like you have to sell like god damn like what's the deal like, I just don't understand the concept. They just want to get the most amount of money, you know?

Some people, they just, they get caught up in numbers. They get caught up in what they can do, and they don't have, like, a moral or ethical structure. So I'm selling you apples because you're a consumer. You're one of my customers that you buy my apples. Why would I put something in the apples that's going to kill off the people who buy my apples? Well, there's two things going on. One, there's cartels.

And the cartels don't give a fuck. The amount of people that are going to buy their cocaine is endless. It's the only way to get it. It's coming in over the border. They're constantly bringing it in. And if they can cut it and make more money, they don't give a fuck. If they sell it to you, you think you're going to buy what you bought last month, but you're buying a totally different thing now because they decided to try a new formulation with fentanyl. And maybe you do one bump, you're okay. Maybe you do two bumps,

you're dead. That's the fentanyl deal that's the fentanyl deal like fentanyl that you've ever seen the amount of fentanyl that'll kill you like in comparison to a penny it's crazy pull up the image when you see it next to a penny you just go what the it's like lead in the water tiniest amount it's the tiniest amount of fentanyl will kill you it's it's like a hundred times stronger than heroin like it's like being okay with a little water a little lead in the water oh would you say like it can't be right because it's given to people as a yeah so but that's so thick yeah bring them less than that they're giving them less than that yeah they really are no I

know it seems like it can't be right but if the folks that are just listening at home we're looking at a penny from 2012 and the amount of fentanyl that'll kill you will cover up the number 2012 and that's about it it's a small it's it's lincoln's beard lincoln's beard is the amount of fentanyl that'll kill you on a penny which is crazy and that's real look at it look at it next to heroin. Yeah. What is this other shit? Carfentanil? Oh, there's one that's worse? Jesus Christ. So 1.2 milligrams of fentanyl will kill you.

And then 0.2 of carfentanil. You know, value per milligram is $250. And you have 0.2 milligrams. I'm my uncle my uncle took more heroin than that this is well I think you could develop a tolerance you know Mitch Hedberg had a crazy tolerance apparently you know Hedberg they tried to get him to clean up. And he's like, nope. Nope, I like heroin. Damn. Yeah. Died on a sword.

I think that comics should be the most healthiest people. Like, they should value their health a lot. Like, we on the road. We in different environments all the time. You traveling. You in different environments all the time you traveling you in different hotels like your health should be a Priority yeah to you and I know some was we just thought we fall then you eating terrible food if you

You know you in a lot of these clubs you eat not the club you eating everything fingers. Yeah But you have to have energy to perform if you really want to be at your best you want to be vibrant you want to have energy you know if you're drinking every night and oh yeah oh and if you're doing coke if you look at the guys who petered out, like, Kenison petered out worse than anybody. But he was just partying every night. It was all coke and alcohol. If you go and watch Kenison from, like, 86 and then watch Kenison in 1990,

it's like he's a shadow of himself. Four years later, shadow of himself. Almost like a parody. Almost like someone was trying to do a Kenison impression at, like, you know, one of those impersonator shows. Yeah. You know, someone does a,

you know, like Texas guy. Yeah. Houston. Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about it last night in the green room. There's a video out there. See if you can find Kennison doing revival preaching.

I know there's a video out there of him on one of those tent revivals doing Jesus preaching. It's wild, man. He was so powerful. He was a dope comic.

David Dow used to tell me stories about being with him at the time, being around him at the time, because they was all coming up together. And sometimes people forget about Thea. Thea was a fucking legend. She was a beast. Fucking legend. There it is.

This is a 36-minute recording of it without video. The last sermon in 1982. Yeah. You care about me? I know they care about me. Yeah, give sound is terrible. Oh know it's like to have your own home, drive new cars off the lot, and have to sleep in a bar with no place to go. But I know one thing, I've never had God turn his back on me.

Every time I was alone, every time I was alone Every time I was convinced That I couldn't love No one know peace or love again God was right there I'm telling you something tonight. You can't get away from God. You may think you're in a place where you go, well, my life's real secure.

My life can't be changed. I've got everything I want. But I'm finding out something about age and about time. That's it. You're going to be here a long time. Who needs change? Your personality changes. Different aspects of your life change.

There's one thing that doesn't change, and that's your need for God. Amen. Scoot it up. Scoot it up towards the end. Let me hear it. I'm praying to myself. You don't do something. Here we go.

I'm going to tie my hands. By the end of this year, I just don't know if I can do this anymore. It's too demanding. It's too draining. People are getting the entirely wrong image of what kind of person I am. Amen. Amen.

And now I repent for it. The day of that kind of life out there. Amen. But I tell you this, I know what I've been commissioned to do. I know what God called me to do. I know what my purpose is. I need your purpose. Amen. If I ever cross your heart, it's because God's laying me on it. Amen. If I cross your mind, if I happen

to just, you're driving sometime and I happen to cross your heart of your minds because I'm out there praying for the body of Christ to pray for me because I need you amen amen I'm telling you something this world's about to be shook up and I'm just glad I have a part in it I'm glad you have a in it. Because I wouldn't have made it without the prayers of this church. Without the support of this church. I couldn't have took it. Amen. I couldn't have lasted. Amen.

I have one spiritual friend out there. That's it. Out of all the people I know. Out of all the people I deal with. And talk to. I know one spiritual friend. You say, well, why don't you go to different churches out there? I've tried.

And they're nothing but the law. I don't need to know about being saved. You say, well, why don't you go to different churches out there? I've tried, and they're nothing but the law. I don't need to know about being saved. I've been saved. I don't need to know about being filled with the Holy Ghost. Honey, I've walked in it for the last 12 years. It takes a lot to feed me. Amen. The law doesn't cut it.

Your little list of rules doesn't cut it because you can't. This is why the world won't accept it. Amen. The priesthood is going to have to come to humanity. The humanity world won't accept it amen the priesthood is going to have to come to humanity humanity's not going to come to the priesthood amen this is why jesus left the temple brother marty amen praise god they tried to accuse him of all kinds of things they said he's a blasphemer he's a wide member he's irreverent he's not a truth teller he's a wine member. He's irreverent. He's not a truth teller. He's a liar. He's Beelzebub. He's this.

He's that. And Jesus said, listen, amen the well. Don't need a physician. I didn't come for you. I came for the lost. I came for the lives without hope. People without an answer. People living on the edge of their existence.

Amen. Now I'm telling you, people would do their job spiritually. If they'd walk in this spiritually, you wouldn't have the drug addiction rate. Amen. You wouldn't have the alcoholism and the youth that you have in this country. Amen.

But it ain't going to be done by rules. It's going to be done by reality. It ain't going to be done by a little program for them. It's going to be done by something they feel in their self. They're not going to take your word for it. They're going to have to feel it, brother Marnie.

It's going to have to shake them. And Kevin, I respect you because you didn't listen to other people. You just didn't accept it because they told you it was real. You had to wait until you felt it. You had to wait until it shook you up. But brother, it did.

And you are changed. And you are his. And you are his. And you can't run from him. Amen, you ran into him. Woo, glory to God, I was with him. I saw it happen. Wow, four years later, he was doing an HBO special. Talking about getting his dick sucked.

Dead dudes getting fucked in the ass by gay guys. Four years later. I mean, four years years later he was the biggest comic on earth Look at him that's four years later Besides you That has any good to it That can turn a shine of light into somebody's lost way Do you think if you had to If your soul

Was riding on the line And you had to testify and you had to make a commitment, if it was a final answer, what would you do? Well, look at that. He gave him a little taste. That's impression. That's not really, you know, he's just doing himself. Yeah. Well, he's just saying, well, that was someone asked him, could you preach again? Do you have the lord

still in you because i mean imagine if you were in that tent watching that guy perform like that like god damn what a charismatic motherfucker and then four years later you're strumming through hbl you're like hey what the fuck the fuck just happened he i, he must have been doing some comedy back then. Because if this was 82 and that was his last sermon, he must have been doing sermons and comedy at the same time. Like, look at that. He's preaching there in 1975. So really developed his act preaching.

What's the show that comes on that's about about the preachers he remind me which show um i think it's on hbo it's about it's about preachers god damn it the name of it fails me but these um what's the guy from roseanne that was the lead on roseanne john gooden john gooden is in is in this he's the head pastor of this church. John Goodman and what is, okay. I know what you're talking about. They, I'm talking, this is the shadiest shit of all time. It's come on, I think it's HBO. Righteous Gemstones.

Righteous Gemstones. Oh, shit. Gemstone. I didn't mean to do that. Righteous Gemstone. It's some part, man. Oh, from the creators of Eastbound and Down. Is this a new show?

Oh, it's. These motherfuckers are crazy. Danny McBride. Danny McBride's hilarious. She's fucking insane. Oh, look at this. They are insane. Oh, this looks good.

Oh my, you can't stop watching this wild ass shit they are fucking it's on HBO there's a thing about those

kind of high rolling preachers like what's that fucking dude's name the dude down in Houston the

Joel Joel Osteen yeah shit Joel Osteen is fucking high off the heart. Him and what's my guy?

Those guys make so much money. What's the black guy? Potter's House out of Dallas. The guy with the hot dogs in the back of his neck? The big guy? Damn, I ain't never seen that guy. It looks like he's got a stack of hot dogs in the back of his neck. I've never looked at that.

You know, that hot dog fat. God damn it. Is this the guy that had that guy coming off the ceiling, like on the ropes? Potter's House. There's a lot of those guys. Who is the reverend over Potter's House? That's the dude. He's famous.

Yes, that's the guy. I don't know why his goddamn name is it. Yes. Not Joe Austin. What is his name? Shit, I'm looking at him. T.D. Jakes. T.D. Jakes, yes.

T.D. Jakes. That guy could have been a comic. Yeah. All those guys, the charisma, the way they deliver lines. T.D. Jakes is fucking. I haven't told this story, but it's a guy in Houston. I was at a wake

for my friend Andre. Reverend Dixon, junior. Oh, he told this story. This shit was so hysterical. I'm trying to find a way to put it in my show because there's a point to it

about knowing what you have. He said he up there, he preaching, and he said he bought a horse. He said, I'm a country boy. I bought a horse from a man, and I rode the horse for the first time in a parade. I'm in a parade, and I get by the band, and the band starts playing, and the horse starts dancing, moving. I'm like, I can't control it.

I'm trying to get this horse under control and I can't control it. And I'm sitting there listening to this story like, where the fuck is he going with this shit? And he said, then the band would stop and then the band started playing again. The horse, I can't control him, he's dancing. I called him, I get through the parade and I called the man. I said, hey, man. This horse ain't been broke. He can't obey. He said,

what was you doing with the horse? He said, I rode him in a parade. He said, okay. What happened? He said, the band start playing and the horse start moving. I couldn't control him. He said, oh, shit. Oh, because he used to be a show horse. He used to dance to bands.

And his whole point was, I didn't know what I had. He thought that the horse was bad, but he was a show horse. And when the band started playing, he started going into the routine. You know what I'm saying? And I'm saying, and i'm and i'm everybody else trying to get a message i'm in there dying i'm like yo this is hysterical i'm like who buys that horse that don't know the the horse that it's a show horse trained to dance i'll say reverend dixon that is hysterical to me i And I'm like, yo, I got to find a way to put that in my act about not having.

Oh, who is this? Who is this floating? This is what I thought you were talking about. Who is this guy? Oh, this is a Mississippi. He's got known as the floating preacher. I think he gets stuck like halfway down. He got the Beyonce.

He got the Beyonce shit. The Janet Jackson, Method Man and Red Man. And he gets stuck sort of just floating here for a couple seconds what do you do that's hilarious there's something that they have a showmanship yeah there's a entertainment value to the way they present that you could learn something from because like that's one of the things that always

bothered me about the alt comedy scene the alt comedy scene specifically in LA they didn't want to try hard and they didn't like it when people tried hard they would get upset like if someone came on the show like how's everybody doing they're like oh what is he doing he's trying he's trying hard it's like a lack of entertainment value they wanted it's almost like they wanted the bar super low and they could just go up and go so in the Starbucks the other day and so the barista you know there's a barista at starbucks it's a you know fancy word for guy who pours your coffee you know there's like this alt style of comedy that's like very low energy you know very um reference oriented you know they put up they

say a lot of like obscure references to be clever. And if you're a powerful comic, like if you're a guy who's got a lot of, like a Bobby Lee type dude, who runs up there and has all this energy. They don't want you there. They don't want you there. You're fucking up the show by being too funny.

It's a weird dynamic. Terrible dynamic. With comedy. Me going into the alt scene because I I go in there and then think that I'm like them because I'm slow and methodical and it's like I don't think he's like us like like no I'm not like it's a weird Dynamics and then. And then it's the same dynamic, which is crazy to me. It's the same dynamics as me going into a hood room. They want certain things.

And I'm not giving them that. I'm walking up. I'm sitting down. And you hear people say, you all right? Like, yeah, I'm all right. I'm just sitting down. There's something wrong with me sitting down? In their mind, like, why would you be sitting down?

It's stand-up comedy. Then I go into what I do, and I have to win you over because I think that it's a thing with stand-up that the audience, a person goes and sees. They're not adventurous in their entertainment value when it comes to stand-up. If you like a Bruce Bruce or Earthquake, why don't you think you would like an R.E. Shafir and a Joe Rogan? What would make you think you wouldn't like them? Oh, they not my style. So you come to an Ali Sadiq show with a preconceived notion

of what you feel like comedy is. And if I'm not doing that, then you sitting there like, what is he doing? I'm being the human being that I am. And I'm going to deliver if you don't come to my show looking for me to be another comic. Right. That's the thing that's got comedy has genres, but it doesn't.

It's like if you go to see live music, you never see Wu-Tang Clan followed by Alan Jackson you know it's like it's a style of music if you go to a rock concert you expect rock you don't expect folk music you know and like but if you go to see a comedy show you could see it could be Aerosmith it could be run DMC it could be Whitney Houston's like the styles are so different but it's all under the guise of comedy. And you kind of have to adjust for each individual's perspective. And some people, they want to hear that kinnison shit.

They don't want to hear anything slow. They want to hear rapid fire. They have an idea in their head. Yeah. A myopic idea of what comedy is. And I don't see it like that. I see it as I'm going like I Would it's people that I've seen like I watched Ari last night

And I died several deaths Watching Ari like yo this shit is fucking Well, he's doing that new juice special that special that he worked on for a long time. It's tight. This shit is hysterical. It's very good. It's very well written, too. I'm talking about even the small nuggets that he said.

Let me tell you the funniest shit. I had to stop watching because it was so fucking funny. I couldn't laugh. I couldn't laugh another second. And I still went in the back and laughed more from behind, watching it from behind the stage without the audience just listening to it. He said if it was a time, because it's so relatable, it was a time that you didn't think that you could talk to girls.

And he said some shit in there that's so fucking hysterical. The thing about holding a girl's hand? And he goes, he said, if I could talk to my 14-year-old self, I would go back in the future and look, I don't have much time. I got to tell you. And then he's talking and then he said, your 14-year-old old looking at your new self. He says, he looks at it and he's like,

yo, look, some shit fails. Like his hair, he going like, look, don't fuck my hair. Fuck what's going to happen to you. And then he says, you're an asshole. That's why people don't like you in the future. If I go back and look at my 14 year old self and my 14 year old self looking at what he's going to become

I'm like look man fuck you man you ain't bad get the fuck out of my face yeah like man it's a great set it's a great set

and my role manager Dre Dre's always with me and Dre has probably learned so much about comedy, just being in the room and seeing the different dynamics. And last night, he was in the room, and he was like he never knew that white comics talk so much shit

just like black comics. He was like, y'all all the fucking same like all of y'all talk yeah like talk that that that lady y'all talk so much about the lady bombing he was like he's like yo this is the same y'all would be saying, man, he is fucking sucks. Like, yo, that lady would have got so. It's comics that hate me to this day. Because I told them that they shit was trash. Like, very early. I'm like, yo, man, you need to work on that shit.

That shit is garbage, son. Like, and now I don't do that. Like, I won't tell you anything. If you think that you good. Like that lady. The disservice. By this sensitive culture. That you don't.

Get what you actually need to be. A beast in this game. Like your fucking skin. Has to be toughened up. And. It's. This has to be toughened up. And it's, this is what I say about the new generation of the Instagram, the social media comedian. When you started,

you weren't going to what they could just go to politics, how it, how it res politics. So Trump only did interviews on on fox kelly kelly and conway she only does interviews on fox and i know this because i listen to fox and i'm listening because i want to hear these interviews of people who never come on other media outlets to answer any type of fucking question and they call them softball questions. They didn't give them fucking softballs.

So as a comic, if you always get softball, like you bringing your audience to the club, like these are the people and they fucking love you. And they come in just for you, but you don't have a lineage of how you started like you don't have a i used to be in the comedy store i used to be the seller i used to be just joking i used to be at the improv and i'm fucking getting this shit together and one time joe came in like yo

the joke is hilarious but you need this you don't have this fucking lineage of shit that helps you develop. So you're just getting all softballs. So then when you go into an audience, now you're on what I call one of these conglomerate shows with all different types of comics on the show and you don't have a lineage and you have to follow somebody. You have to go up behind somebody.

And you see the difference like, oh, you never had to go up after a monster and still get your shit off. You never had to do these things. So it handicaps you in this business.

Because, yo, I'm on this show. You're popular and he's popular, but you got to go behind Rogan. And Rogan has taken the room on a fucking journey, and now you coming up with the, hey, da-da-da-da, shit. They like, the fuck out of here. Like, what are you doing? Then somebody else comes behind you and destroys the room again.

And you're like, oh, it was the crowd. Like, nah. It was you. It's the skill set. Yeah. It's the fucking skill set. It's managing the moment, too. Yeah.

Some things that you can do maybe after you got them, maybe if you get them going for 20 minutes, then you can do a slow pitch shit. You can do something where they trust you. And then you can take them to a different place but if you're going on after joey diaz and joey diaz is murdering that's one of the reasons why i started taking joey on the road with me because i bombed after him once i took him on the road with me in new jersey and he destroyed and i did not. I had a rough set.

It wasn't bad. It wasn't like the worst bombing, but it definitely wasn't good. It was like there was Joey. He was way stronger than me. And then there was me. I was like, damn, I got to bring this dude with me everywhere.

I need that heat. Yeah. It helped. It helped him and it helped me. It helped me because he would crush so hard that you had to be able to ride that wave. You couldn't be nervous about it. That's like half of it is enjoying the person who's on before you laughing so you go on stage you're already laughing you're having fun yeah do you know Jeff Sewell no he used to be a booker for the the

Houston Improvs like Dallas in Addison you know all of I used to think he hated me because he would always talk to me about how great other comics was like he Like Dallas and Addison, you know, all of them. I used to think he hated me. Because he would always talk to me about how great other comics was. Like he would never fucking say anything to me about me. And people would, it taught me that your perception of yourself is definitely important because Jeff I would run into other people and Jeff would be like they would tell me like Jeff Sewell fucking loves you my what he never says anything good by me like to who? Like he fucking raves about you. And you're not there.

Like you're like the one for him. But he would always tell me about how great other comics were. So Bill Burr wants somebody to open for him. He's getting ready to do a special. And he asked Jeff Sewell he's like yo I need somebody cause I'm doing the Paramount in Austin I need somebody who's gonna come in that room

and fucking destroy this room and did I wanna come out on a high who you think so I get a call to open for Bill Burr. And I'm like, okay, cool. Bill Burr, he comes in my green room.

He's like, yo, I know you're going to be fucking great. Jeff said, if you want a killer in front of you, this is one. I'm like, what? Yeah, Jeff fucking says that you like the man. So whatever the pair of my hoses sold out, I walk out there, and it's literally two black people in the whole entire place. It's me and an usher. It's me and an usher.

And I had on all black. And I'll never forget when I walked out. I'll say, hey, let me tell y'all something before I even start. This is the worst fucking place to wear all black. And I want y'all to know I do not work here I don't know where the fucking restrooms are I don't know anything because people were stopping me

like hey you know where the restroom is I'm like why the fuck people ask me like I've never been before and then I noticed that I had on all black I'm like this is bullshit and I fucking destroyed

and Bill came and said yo any fucking thing you need from me like you need me to help you in any way i will refer you i will do any thing thank you and i was like jeff i was like thank jeff like i really thought that he was like yo you but jeff jeff's like yo you but he he just couldn't give it to me because he felt like i I've been in this room since 2011.

It used to be Spellbinders before it was the improv. They had a fucking rainforest. And I used to go there, and he just never paid fucking attention to me. And when he told me he got sick, he was like, I always thought you were fucking great. Like, always. Like, what I can tell you. Like, I didn't want you to fucking stop trying to get it.

Like, if somebody tells you that you great up front and you never, you'd never strive to be better than that like even with with myself like i do an album or i do a special and i want the i want the next one to be better than the last one i don't i don't see it any other any other way why would you why would you start declining or why would you go there because you it's different facets of your your growth in stand-up yeah and I I think you can always be original in this in this business if you being honest about who you are and the growth you're not supposed to be doing the same thing I've been doing it what um almost 24 years I'm not supposed to be the same as I was in the first 10 years. Of course not. The first 10 years, I used to just joke about this story actually

about getting body slammed in a fight. I wasn't ready. This dude, we fighting and we get close and he fucking picks me up and body slams me. And I'm like, yo, after you get body slammed in a fight, you fucking lost. I don't give a damn

what happened after that you fucking lost it's like your shoe coming off in a fight you fucking lost like and I would I would do this flip boom I would land on my back and I'd be on the ground and I know the older I get I'm not going to continue to be able to do this shit right this is not a long-standing joke this story cuz I have to do the flip in order to sell it like I'm not so I supposed to develop into something a little better than what I was in the beginning the first 10 the first 15 and if you don't have a lineage how do you do that like how do you learn to get better how do't have a lineage, how do you do that? Like how do you learn to get better?

How do you have a desire? I'm like Seabiscuit. I see you running, and I want to run faster to catch you. But if I don't have that desire in me, I'm cool with being number seven and thinking and having this illusion that I'm great but I'm only playing in front of the softball or the right yeah you gotta have a lot of people around you that are good too yeah it's very important it's very rare that you go to a town and there's no one good except one guy it's very rare very rare very rare there's like one standout world-class

comedian that's just in a town by himself existing in a vacuum yeah they're never it's it's a lot of great comics out of houston like i've been around a lot of great like when people say what's your influences i start with houston guys the history is huge and i knowC. has the Mecca and New York feel like they have something and L.A. feel like that. And I would argue the point about Texas comics. I would argue like, man, we stronger than you think. And we play we Midwest Midwest comics, I think, talk from a different perspective because they don't have this grandiose idea that they, I'm L.A. and I'm New York or I'm Atlanta. I'm like, nah, we the Midwest and we got a lot of shit to talk about. And I just think it's not a better thing.

It's a what's more accepted and I think the audiences in the Midwest are regular people and when you want to do stand up when you're doing stand up you're talking to

regular people that's not got this I remember performing in LA and it felt like the audience was waiting on somebody else like the whole I never I didn't even go up. They're waiting on someone famous.

I'm just like, they waiting on something. Like they holding laughs. Like, I'm not going to give it all to you. Like, man, that guy's hysterical. Give it up to him. L.A. is a pretentious place. And a lot of the people that are in that audience either want to be in the business, wish they were actors, wish they were famous, or they're peripheral to it.

They're agents or managers. They're jaded and weird, and they're all social climbers. It's like there's a weirdness to it. Like when someone famous goes on stage, like, oh, yes, someone who is of the caliber of fame that I – but there could be someone before them that's funnier, and they don't even care. They don't care.

They're not just trying to have fun. There's a pretentiousness to it that's funnier and they don't even care they don't care they don't they're not just trying to have fun there's a pretentiousness to it that's more new york has got a hardness to it that i kind of like la's got a pretentiousness to it but when you're in a place like houston there's all the pretentiousness is out the window it's just are you good are you good but that's like willie d and i talked about that with the hip- scene in Houston. It was the same thing when the Ghetto Boys were exploding. Yeah. When the Ghetto Boys were hot, there was a whole different style of rap coming out of this one section of the country, and you had to respect it. Brad Jordan, Scarface, was optimal. It changed the cadence of people.

And Willie D and Bushwick Bill. cadence of people. And Willie D and Bushwick Bill. But then you have this whole entourage of other rappers that came by Zero and Slim Thug and Lil Keke and Big Pokey and UGK. And that's

phenomenal that our first verses is about to be Bun B with UGK versus A-Ball MJG. That's the first South verse. Everything else has been LA and New York. Now this is R&B. This is a South thing and I know they're going to turn up

because Bun is like he's becoming like the mayor of the city. Then you have all these like Beat King and Megan. Look at Megan Thee Stallion. Look at Travis Scott.

Like these are people that's from Houston that this whole, Toby, it's this whole revolution of rappers that spawned from the initial style of the Ghetto Boys. All that rap a lot, records. Yeah, Rap Man, J Prince. And then you had people that came down like Tony Draper with suave house You had all these other guys that stuck the South Rose I remember being I remember the source magazine if he could pull that up the source magazine where they had all

Of the Houston rappers on the source and I remember walking through New York I bought I bought it in New York I'm like yeah you see fucking the South is on the fucking cover the source magazine look at that look at don't mess with Texas look at look look at look at chameleon air pimp see slim thug burn be zero J 1B, Zero, J Prince, Lil Flip, OG Ron C, Michael 5000 Watts, my man right there, Mike Jones, and Scarface on the end. I was in Mike Jones' video back then. You didn't want me. Now I'm hot. You all on me.

Like, that was a big—and that shit said, don't mess with Texas. Why? Houston region won't be. Man, this shit was, like, phenomenal. You need that with rap, and you need that with comedy. You need a scene. If we, if Houston did that with comics, it would be, oh, yeah, and that's the overall,

look at the overall picture with Lil' O and Chingo Bling. You know Chingo Bling do comedy now. Chingo Bling? Yeah, Chingo Bling is a comic. Man,

that's the ESG. Big Hawk, Poke, man, it's a team, like DM, it's a song by this guy named DMD.

Oh man, look at, man, it's a great photo toom like it's a song by this guy named dmd oh man look at man it's a great photo too it's the fucking squad that's on that's on jay prince's ranch really yeah man it's like look at that shit man that's texas and and it was and i was proud man look at little kiki look at uh hard body kiati po Hulk. Man, this shit was phenomenal. Man, I remember getting chills when I saw this shit. I was like, yo, man, Texas is on the fucking map. And when you talk about comedy, it's like if we did that with comedy with Bill Hicks and Sam Kinison, Thea Vidal, Brumman,

Billy D. Washington, um, Ruchon McDonald, um, fucking David Ray Bond, myself, Marcus D.

Wiley, Terry Gross, Keira Space, Dez White, um, um, Dave Lawson. It's so many comics that's been

influential and then we still have Shane Wayne. We have the whites. Man, we fucking Bob Biggestaff. It's like some phenomenal comics, man. Yo, man, our R&B scene.

You watch The Winning Game? No. It's about the rise of the Lakers with Dr. Jerry Buss. I read the credits, too. And it's an R&B artist, a jazz artist by the name of Robert Glasper. And I'm reading the credits. And I paused it when I saw musical director Robert Glasper. And it's just fucking, it's like fucking Houston.

It's all over the place. You see yourself living anywhere else ever? Nah. Just Houston? It's in the blood. It's H-town. So when you decided to film your special, you wanted to do it in Houston.

I wanted to do it in Houston. I actually, I did it intimate, but I'm still searching for the love from my city because I think that I represent so well. And I think that the people who spawn off of me represent well. Kevin Iso and Bryson Brown and all these people.

Kevin Iso has a show on Showtime Flatbush Misdemeanor. He's a writer you know and he wrote in the second season. It's a fucking great show and I think that my representation of what spawns off of me and what I've done when I go out on the show,

like I never try to misrepresent my city when I'm performing on TV or anything because I want them to be proud. As proud as I am when I see somebody from Houston, I want them to be that. Like, when I found out Thea Vidal was from Houston, she's been in all these great movies. I was like, yo, she from Houston? Like, I lost my shit when I found out Booker T was from Houston. Like, a fucking wrestler. I'm like, yo, anybody from my city that's doing something, whether it's political, whether it's art, whether it's educational,

whatever you're doing, I'm like, yo, it's fucking Houston. Right. And I just see, I wanted to do it in the Toyota Center. I just see, I wanted to do it in the Toyota Center. I'm one of them people that I don't want Dave Chappelle and Kevin Hart and all these other people to come to my city and play the Toyota Center or Gary Owens and Michael Blackson come to the improv and sell out 14, 15 shows and shit like that. And then I don't do the same thing.

Like that shit is a driving force. Like how you get so much love? What did you do? And I'm not an actor. I'm not a I'm not. I don't look at sitcoms and movies and desire that shit. I'm a stand up and I want to do it from the stand-up position because a lot of these other greats were doing it from the stint Colin was in car wash

with fucking one of the greatest comics of all time which is um Franklin Aj job he was the fly in the car wash and I don't think that the movie was what compelled him what people wanted. I think it was his words It was this yeah, because those are somebody else's words. I want to do it Yeah, well with my look at that Man, look at George Carlin. Yeah, I like I fuck it like this is one of my moves I got like I know the whole soundtrack. I love every song and I know every scene 76 Yeah, Wow

Like I would love to be in a movie like taxi With a bunch of other comics and I think for you It's just a matter of a special like this and maybe you know more specials like this people you're undeniable When people see it they'll specials like this. You're undeniable. When people see it, they'll get it. Like this year, I want to be the first comic to ever win an Emmy for a comedy special that's not on the network. Because I'm like...

Louis C.K. already did that. He won an Emmy? Yeah. Louis C.K. won an Emmy. Or Grammy. He won a Grammy. That's right. He won a Grammy.

I'm hoping that my... Can you even win an Emmy if you're not on a network? Is it a television show award it's youtube tv is it do people in youtube win emmys hopefully hopefully it can happen i think that i want to try to push the envelope to where people say hey man do what they feel bad like yo listen i know that it was on that. I know them other guys. It was on Netflix or HBO or something else. But it's going to be a problem if we if we say this is the best special of 2022 and we give it to somebody.

Fuck those awards, though, man. But it's people give you your own award just by seeing you. Who is the deciding vote on the Grammys or the Emmys get the fuck the thing is to achieve some shit without them having to like I would I remember DL told me when I was gonna bring the funny and I was talking to me he's like you think you'll win I was was like, God. But I went in it. My agent, Joe. Joe would tell anybody.

Because he talked me into doing it. I said, cool, we'll do it. I tried to lose every fucking round. Because I was on tour. I was like, yo, I'd rather just do the tour dates. I don't need this shit. And he's like, going to do it. So every round, I don't, I don't need this shit. And he's like, going to do it. So every round,

I was like, eh, I kept my shit packed. Like, I was like, we're going to go do the round. I'm shortening these stories down to two minutes and 30 seconds

to get this shit off. And I'm just, whatever job, I'm doing cool. And I keep advancing. And I would call Joe, I'm like, I made it to the next round.

He's like, okay, good. And then, and I was call Joe I'm like I made it to the next round he's like okay good and then I was like fuck so I would make it to the next round and DL by the by the third round now

I got the taste of blood in my mouth like I want to win this shit now and DL was like I don't want you to win I said what I don't want you to win I want you to be the person that people wanted to win and didn't like what he said more people gonna see you more people gonna come to the shows to see you because they wanted you to win and you didn't. And they wanted to come tell you. And sometimes I doubt my mentors.

Like I doubt their experience. I don't know fucking why. And I'm like, so then I lose. And anybody who watched the show would see my face. Like I don't have a poker face at all. whatever the fuck is on my mind is on it so they they panned the audio i'll never forget that the cameraman did just like this so they they announced the winner and everybody's cheering shit but this is my face like your face is right now they was panning like this and that man got right to me and went the camera up and then did everybody

else because my face was like this i'm not clapping for that like i'm not gonna and when i didn't win i was like okay it and then people start coming to the shows telling me how they you should have won and i was like fucking right again damn it so we decided to do this podcast again we did one just a few months ago but we decided to do it again because on the last one we were just talking about stuff and hbo didn't like what you said yeah and they pulled your special yeah and you know you have opinions about things you're supposed to be allowed to have opinions about things but when you have opinions about what they want to deem protected class and that's like I mean we were talking about gay people and your opinion was about gay people

adopting children. Yeah, I said my thoughts. Yeah. The thing about a thought, I'm not saying I'm right. I'm not saying I'm wrong. I'm telling a thought. Now it's on what I think to either be altered, corrected, more information, whatever the situation is. But that's not going to happen right off the top without having without me having a conversation about it. And knowing that error is plays a large part in how people think the era that you grew up in and then your experiences

my experience with things were that people who was in a certain lifestyle that i know didn't want certain things that it wasn't a part of what they were doing so that's my experience those are my thoughts am I wrong not in thinking a thought I'm not out doing the rallying for it I'm just saying what my thought was in a conversation I'm allowed to do that I'm not saying that you can't have

anything I'm just saying my thoughts I didn't think that the Lakers should have got Westbrook. I didn't think that it was a good fit. Do the Laker Nation come

after me because I had a thought about hey, I think that Magic Johnson is the greatest basketball player of all time. I think Bill Russell is the greatest basketball mind of all time. I think Bill Russell is the greatest basketball mind of all time. If you like Jordan, you like Jordan. But I will have a discussion with you about the greatness of Magic Johnson.

But this was a discussion about whether or not gay people should be able to adopt children. Yeah. And you felt like they're not making children. That was never a thing when you were young. The gay guys didn't want children. And then all of a sudden they do. And you felt like it didn't fit. That was my thoughts.

I didn't I wasn't rallying for anything. I didn't think it was hateful. It's a complex subject. Right. Because what your point was is they're not making the children and what other people's points would be but yeah wouldn't you just want the kids to be in a loving family and if the gay family loves them and supports them and raises them far better than being in foster care far better than

being abused I think that that's the the extreme that people put it on like I saw a dude who was who was giving this commentary on the on the talk without taking in the whole context of it but then he was like he's been indoctrinated in this and he his thoughts are he's been indoctrinated something I'm like, nah, I'm just a human being and certain things in my era work. They saying you were indoctrinated? Yeah, to something like what? Something wrong with gay people?

Like, I never thought that nor did I ever say that. Did you have a conversation with anybody about it? Like, did anybody talk to you and say, hey, we'd like to know why you think what you think? No, they threatened me with violence they threatened me with like a lot of people threatened me with violence and i was sending my address to those people like yo you bring that shit on if you want to let me like in what way they're threatening oh i'm gonna come knock your fucking teeth down your throat and make you how you think that's gonna make me change anything

what and what am i gonna be doing while you're knocking my teeth down my throat like what you gonna what I'm what am I gonna be doing is you think this is a fucking movie that I'm gonna just be just taking it like yo but this is this was my point you your first thing was to do was not to rationally have a discussion your your thing was to threaten me with violence well that's one person no that was no person ever DM'd me and said I would like to have a conversation

with you about your thoughts did anybody from HBO want to have a conversation with you did you speak to anybody or is it spoken to your agent and then spoken to my and I Spoken to my agent. And I asked for a conversation. And when we had a conversation, I started the conversation off by this.

Do you think that I am an honest man? I'll let you decide about your honesty. Yes, it is. Do you think that I am an honest man? Yeah. Now we can have the conversation because if you don't think that I'm honest man there's no reason for me to go forward this conversation right sitting across from me do you think I'm a home phone sitting up we're sitting right across from you mean you having dinner no okay um I No. Okay.

I happened to watch New Rules with Bill Maher last Friday. Something I was tired came from the show, Exhausted. Turned on HBO. Obviously, I have no problem. I watch a lot of HBO shows. I have no ill feelings about them they decision or whatnot no trip still gonna watch my same HBO shows and then I hear Bill Maher talking out the new rules and he goes in like really lays out some shit.

And then Sam Jay's show comes on right after that. And Sam Jay is a lesbian, black lesbian woman that's a comic. She has a show on HBO, which I'm on. And she goes in about how the LGBT community does not represent her as a black lesbian woman. And she's talking to these people and she's given a whole candid understanding about how the shit does not relate to her. relate to her same same thought patterns of

of understanding like yo explain to me why xyz and I'm sitting there looking like wow some people are free to say

whatever they choose to say and some people are not and when you feel like you can handicap a person and she says on this she said I think that it's a bunch of entitled fucking white people that's pulling the strings of what.

And the lady that she says it to agrees and said, I think it's a lot of people that lobby for power. And they feel like they can take a stance on this, that and the third without no conversation. and they feel like they can take a stance on this, that, and the third without no conversation. If you're manufacturing the consent of anything, you're manufacturing consent. Everybody agrees, but I'm a part of everybody, right or wrong, because I have a different thought. Your first thing was, because he has a thought

and a person that may not know him because the person who knows me who wanted the special understands to a certain degree but it's not in a in their hand it's another person in their hand, it's another person that has this. And we talk about it, but this is a thing that I'm not rallying for anything. But I understand. That's why I have no ill feelings about their decision. That's your decision to not put me on your network because of expected backlash that did not come. Because people, like, it's a thought.

So this is expected backlash from you doing the podcast and saying what you said, and then they were anticipating that there was going to be some attack on you. Yeah, basically. But it didn't really happen. There was a few DMs. A few DMs. I got a few DMs, and people were like, what else is a goddamn heterosexual 48-year-old black male Muslim going to say?

What else is he going to say? What the fuck? But it's also like what I would like to see is people have a conversation about it. What I would like to see is people have a conversation about it. Like it's a adopting children is a complex conversation. It's a complex conversation for everybody. And it's not just and it's not just the skill of what you want. You also have to understand that you send, if my son or my daughter wanted to do something that I know, as a heterosexual parent, I'm concerned about the shit that I do that my kids will have to explain, that may not be equipped to explain it.

And you don't have a pamphlet of information that I can go to to explain anything. Then right after that, I did this joke, which I still think is fucking funny because it happened. And my four-year-old, we in the elevator. A man comes on there with a face full of makeup. We got a full what they call beat face. And my daughter's like, Daddy, why that man got on makeup? I'm not thinking about this shit

right now. My mind's on something else. I don't have time to explain this shit. I said, he in a band. That's all I said. He's a band. I don't know if I can band him. He's a band. Kids, twins, sisters, I don't know if I can band him he's a band kids, twins, sisters

I don't know if I can band him he ain't in the band so my four year old is still like she see a man with makeup on she doesn't think anything

but oh he must be in the band but that's what I I don't have time to go into this shit right now with her in this elevator with this guy

I don't know what his situation he could have bad skin I don't know what the situation is but the quickest thing I can say right now with her in this elevator right with this with this guy i don't know what his situation he could have bad skin i don't know what the situation is but the quickest thing i can say right now he's in a fucking band and that and people laugh and then get mad when other people want to get mad with it like but it's almost like the will sm thing. Will laughed. Jada wasn't happy. Now he fucking slaps Chris. Right. What the fuck just happened, Will? Right.

You're just laughing. But I think that if you are able to laugh at somebody else's disposition, you should be able to laugh at yours. Because when I'm on stage, I'm saying a lot of shit that people may not agree with. You may not agree with the parenting style of my parents, but you can't go back and change that. My mom did what she did. It made me who I am, and you pick up things.

But, man, I'll never forget Mr. Reggie ran the day center, and Mr. Reggie was this black gay guy and he was fucking hysterical and I asked him one time I said Mr. Reggie you want kids he said hell nah I don't even want y'all to be here I was like

I was like damn Mr. Reggie he's like me y'all get on my god damn nerves but he I think that white experience even in this world, is different than black experience. Because my cologne man, Keith. You have a cologne man? Yeah, he supplies colognes at the barbershop.

And he gets the best shit. So, and Keith is in our barbershop and we have no rules. We do not censor our conversation for Keith. And when Keith comes in, I remember when Keith got his fucking hair, he got some hair implants. And I'm talking about, Keith has done so much shit to himself. And when he comes in and I see him,

I'm going to say some wild shit to Keith. He knows he's getting it. Yeah. And when he comes in, Keith don't give a shit about what I'm saying. Keith's like, yo, man, you want this cologne or not like did you get your eyes done do you have on cinnamon contacts i'm proud today huh he's like he's like he doesn't give a about what i and he doesn't he doesn't care what i go to midtown barbershop he doesn't give a shit about what I, and he doesn't care what, I go to Midtown Barbershop. He doesn't give a shit about anything that we say about him in that barbershop.

And he's not the only gay person that comes to the barbershop. He's been coming there for years. And Keith, he's a fucking crazy man. But he's accustomed to that culture. Yeah. And whatever is said, that's not bothering him

because we're not violent towards him right just talking shit this is a barbershop talking shit if you come in if you straight and you come in with some with some weird shit on so she gonna be said about you it just it happened so Keith come here I ain't seen Keith in a while it's the key where you been amen I had a little situation I had a little situation. I had a procedure. I'm in the hospital. And I immediately said, oh, you're getting your stomach pumped. Like, I immediately

said the shit. Keith's like, you're a fucking asshole. Like, I'm just saying. But I don't think that they understand how black people operate, even in the space.

You think there's nobody gay in my family? My cousin know I don't fucking hate him. I don't give a shit about your sexuality. So they want you to not talk about things as loosely, I guess, and not, and take into consideration that you would hurt gay people's feelings that want to be parents I would probably hurt

anybody's feelings if I'm up there talking about things that I think that's contrary to you if that's where your feelings are based but my actions are contrary to like I say on stage I'm not a handy stage, I'm not a handyman. Am I really not a handyman?

Fuck no. I have been not handy in the past. But now I can figure out how to fix anything. And if I can't figure out, I'm going to call somebody to ask. Just like, I ask people, but it was all black people. I say, you heard what I said on Rogan. Yeah. Was you offended?

No. I'd buy the fucking lease. But that's my. I think it's a subject that they don't want you talking about at all. Unless you are, like you can't have opinions unless it is. Their opinion. Their opinion. Yeah. Manufacturing consent. Well, and it is their opinion, their opinion. Yeah.

The manufacturing consent. Well, and it comes. It's not just about that. Mario Lopez had to apologize because he was talking about children taking hormones to transition. And he said he just didn't think that it should happen. The children should take hormones to to become a different gender. And he almost lost his fucking job. And because he thought something?

Because he had an opinion about, and by the way, that's an opinion shared by a lot of medical doctors. That's an opinion shared by a lot of psychologists. That's an opinion shared by a lot of psychologists that's opinion shared by a lot of people that are very concerned and he almost lost his job because you can't have an opinion that even look I like I told you before in the first podcast I had one of my old neighbors they're they're gay and they had a kid and they adopted this kid and this kid was great and they had a great family it does work I don't have the same opinion as you as far as that. But you're allowed to have different opinions about everything in my mind.

Everything. Look, that's what podcasts are all about. That's what conversations are all about. I want to know why you think the way you think. And if you have a perception and you have a way that you look at things and it's different than the way I look at things, I just want to see why you think that way. you look at things and it's different than the way I look at things I just want to see why you think that way and you were pretty clear you like that's not they're not

making children like this is a different thing like you're adopting a child but this is not the same kind of relationship as a man and woman who have a child and then raise a child and it's like it comes out of the woman's body and it's a connection and it's a child and it's like it comes out of the woman's body and everyone knows. It's a connection. It's a different thing. It's a different thing. But when people do research, it's what they call a hypothesis.

They try to figure out what works. They have an educated guess and then they start working towards the thing that's research. So you think something educated guess and then they start working towards the thing that's research. So you think something and then you start to go through it

pros, cons some things like with the vaccination. Some people got sick, some people didn't. Is the vaccination bad? I don't know. Some people got sick, some people didn't. Is the vaccination bad? I don't know. Some people got sick, some people didn't. I don't think the vaccination is good. Cool.

Some people got sick, some people didn't. You don't think you should take it. Cool. What's the, what? All these fucking non-vaxxers. Da-da-da. Yeah. What?

Like, okay, were you asking people to get vaccinated five years ago? Ten years ago? From other shit but not this new shit that people don't have enough information on just yet. So, therefore, I don't want to fucking do it right now. Right. But it is another one of those things where you have to have the same opinion as everybody else Or they get furious at you get extra But what does your fury do but cause more rage?

I don't think they're thinking about that way I think they just like in this situation like the subject that we're talking about gay people adopting children. I think People just want compliance they want you to comply with whatever the narrative that they're trying to establish is the same thing when mario lopez was talking about children taking hormones it's like there's a narrative they don't want you to have an opinion outside that narrative and if you do they want to fire you from things. And the situation with you and HBO is, look, I told you this last night and I believe it now. I think it's good. Not necessarily good to have these people upset at you, but good that you put it on YouTube because the distribution

is so much better. You'll get millions more views, millions more views. It'll be accessible anytime anybody wants it for free. Anytime you just pull up your phone BAM you're waiting for a plane BAM watch it anytime you want BAM watch it it's always available always available you'll get millions more views it's so much better for you and I think people will understand the thought process of a lot more thing I'm I'm starting at an age. I made decisions at 10 that I knew were bad decisions later on. But if somebody would have protected me from that decision, my sister tried. My sister was like, nah, I don't think that's the way to go.

Sometimes you got to learn for yourself. and sometimes you got to learn for yourself you got and so i think even with i'm a i'm a child and i'm walking through life as a child and i'm making a lot of bad decisions that i know now that will tear i would never want my child to go through hey man let me give you a lot more if i man i wish i just want to build a confident confidence up in children that they will not succumb to these outside forces that's pulling you towards things that's that's contrary to your moral standings on things it's hard it's hard for people because they get to school and you know there's so many people that want you to believe a certain way like i've talked to kids that told me and these like 12 year old kids that they were getting bullied at school

because they weren't vaccinated and other kids were vaccinated and i'm like what 12 year old understands the ramifications of getting vaccinated for something that they have zero fear of getting sick and hospitalized for somebody said it to to him. Unless you're obese, unless there's something wrong with you, unless you're immunocompromised, the hard science on COVID is young children that are healthy children are rarely hospitalized. Very, very, very rarely. Far more vulnerable to the flu. My kids had it. The flu or COVID?

COVID. Mine too. My kids had it and we tried to isolate them from my daughter who has allergies. And we would wake up in the middle of the night, she in the bed with her sister and her brother that both had COVID. Like, we trying to keep you safe. And she's like, no, need to be with my family. And she never caught it. And they had it.

And my kids are fine. never she never caught it and they had it and my my kids are my kids are fine my kids both got it and uh they were fine they got over it easy one kid just got a headache the other kid was felt like she had a little bit of a cold for a day it's it's it was one of those things though where the heightened fear and there was push they were pushing it so hard the difference between the way they felt what about it here versus the push they were pushing it so hard the difference between the way they felt what about it here versus the way they felt about it in la la they're still scared they're still wearing masks everywhere i mean it's it's so different out here no one gave a fuck that's one of the reasons why my kids wanted to move here when we came we came out here in may of 2020 and my kids were like mommy i want to want to move here. Come on, Daddy, let's live here. I'm like, I'll fucking move here.

And I told my wife, I will fucking move here. I do not like where L.A.'s going. That fear is hard to shake off. That shit sticks like tar. It's just stuck to people out there. And L.A., New York, people all up on top of each other. Texas, people a little more spread it out. And it's like, yo, man, I don't even see that that many people get the fuck out here I'm not just and I think that

with people are so quick to give somebody a phobia yeah or diagnose somebody yeah because I like things in order oh you OCD I just like maybe maybe I just like balance yeah you have ADHD because you can't pay attention to boring shit that's what it is man I don't want to watch some weird ass TED talk you got age no no no how many kids are getting medicated because they're bored in school a lot. I never forget my daughter. Like, I remember homeschool had a phobia of, like, people, your kid's not going to be socialized. Right.

Your kid is going to be this good. Homeschool is way better. I remember my daughter, my oldest daughter, Jaden, she's a chef at James Harden Restaurant 13. She was in school, and the teacher said that she was being disruptive in class and I went and I just snuck and looked to see what she was doing she was in kindergarten and she had already been my daughter was reading at three so now you in there doing

colors and numbers and she's in the back doing shit like this. They're like what color is this? Blue and she in the back B-L-U-E Blue What the fuck are we doing man? She's advanced It's like her and this other guy I know his mom they moved him to this school

long fellow that had a gifted and talented program they both were in gifted and talented all through elementary all through um middle school all through high school never was bored in class kid because they were being stimulated and you got a lot of to do so i think that that's a part of it as well this kid don't have adhd this kid is bored at this goddamn as curriculum that you have yeah they're like you teaching me god and and i'm not interested teachers too oh man non-interested teachers, too. Oh, man. Non-interested teachers, man. That shit just bothers me. And I say this, and I know teachers get upset. Every time I say this, I get backlash.

But when people get upset about things, you have to think about it. I've seen teachers walk out for more pay, maybe twice. We walk, they get their't strike for more pay. Maybe more times than that. I'm just going on times that I just currently can think of. But they never walk out for a better curriculum for children.

Like they say, the school system is not this, not that, and it is not challenging, but you never walk out for a better curriculum. They can't get together on the same page. We want to teach these kids and really teach these kids, United States kids, to be in the upper echelon of intelligent children and intelligent people in the world. I wonder what we rank at right now in education.

Where does the United States rank in It's pretty low in education. It's pretty low Let's uh, let's guess 36 I'll take 30 I bet we're lower than that So why not adopt why be so arrogant not to adopt somebody else's? Who's number one? Let's adopt that curriculum and put that curriculum and put that attitude in.

Your kids go to school and eat what type of fucking food? Do they have a five-star chef back there giving nutritious food to the children? One of the things about my son when he went to school he complained about the bathroom being filthy filthy and not having enough time to eat and he was done with the shit like he like he went to school for three months and then that was it he's never been bad he was done with the shit like it's a kid that knows the quality of education is like yo i can't even borrow when I'm doing math. I don't know. What the fuck is this?

Like, you taught me how to borrow. And I'm a math fucking mathematician. I was a street farmer school rep. I know math. I know both fucking systems. What's the number? Honestly? World ranking.

When you type it in, it says we're number one. So the first three articles I find say we're number one so the first three articles i find say we're number one and then they start seeing articles that say u.s shows they're falling behind the world and i'm like all right well who is deciding oh so now new zealand is not number one no more okay so like the one that says we're number one comes from the u.s news and world report bav group in the wharton schools. When was that? This is 2022 or 2020. And I got one that says they took comparing test scores, rankings falling behind the rest of the world,

2022, they'd give some test to 15-year-olds. And according to that test, we're 11th out of 79 countries in science, much worse in ranking, ranking 30th. But like I said, when you type in science, much worse in ranking, ranking 30th. But like I said, when you type in here, like United States, number one, education rankings by country. I don't know who's putting this together.

Probably the education group of the United States of America. I got to wrap this up. It's already four o'clock. Ali, tell everybody how to get a hold of you. Social media, your special's available right now it's on YouTube it's excellent the domino effect

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