The Joe Rogan Experience - #1837 - Gina Carano

Episode Date: June 28, 2022

Gina Carano is an actress and former mixed martial artist. Her new film, "Terror on the Prairie," is available now through www.dailywire.com

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. We're up for your first ever podcast, Gina Clow. Oh my goodness. What if I don't have anything to say? You do, I guarantee you do. How did you avoid doing podcasts for this long? Just saying no.

Really? I just tell people I'm, I'm kind of just don't know what's ever going to come out of my mouth. So it's going to get, I have no idea what we're going to talk about today. Well, that's good. It's always better that way. I mean, we can talk about anything we can talk about. Well, there was a moment, um, where you were going to come back. You're the OG. Oh, well, I mean, gosh, there was... No, you're the OG. Thank you.

In terms of women's MMA, who the fuck is more OG than you? You're the original star. Well, like, not MMA, but like Lucia Ryker. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, and Muay Thai, yeah. And in boxing, yeah. And then there's Christy Martin and, you know, a lot of other folks. And then there was like the Debbie Purcells and Aaron.

And Wolf. Yeah. There's been a lot of like women combat sports athletes, but in terms of MMA, you're the OG. Well, I appreciate that coming from you. That means a lot. What was it like back then? Because like you were the OG when it was weird to be fighting and it was weird to be fighting as a woman. Yeah.

It was just you would go into the gym, and it was just – well, we started at Master Tati's, so there was a couple girls there that really liked to fight, but they liked to more look good and the attention that fighting came from. Oh, yeah. It wasn't all about the fight. There's a lot of that now, right? Now it's like that. But it was like that then, too.

I don't know. A lot of the... What's her name? Erin... God. Is Debu Purcell and Erin something? Erin Tohill. Tohill.

Yes. So they were actually the people, I would say, that started way before this. Yeah, Erin, she's been around a long time. And Cyborg was doing it as well. Tara LaRosa. Tara LaRosa. Old school. Yeah, I know.

The early days. We're old. Yeah, we're old. But the early days were interesting because, like, you know, there was a lot of people disparaging women fighting. Yeah. You know, including Dana White. Yeah, including most White. Yeah.

You know? Including most of the guys I trained with, which I love them. But, you know, even Mark Beecher, he was like, no, get out of here. I'm not going to train any women. Okay, fine. I'll train you, Gina. It'll be cool. But, and now that's all he does, you know.

You know, even, let's say the Diaz boys. Like, I remember fighting on the same card as Nick Diaz. And he was sitting next to me. And of course, I was just nervous because I absolutely adored him. Still do. I think he's amazing. I just haven't seen him in like a decade. But he was like, you know, we're sitting there before a fight having our post, you know, weigh in dinner. And he was like, you know, I gotta tell you, I don't really like women fighting. You obviously say it like that. He's like, you know, I don't like what you do. I don't like women fighting.

And I was like, that's okay. You know, maybe you're just a little old-fashioned. And I was like, do you think my dad likes this? Do you think anybody in my family likes me fighting? And he was like, no, old-fashioned. Okay, so I'm just old-fashioned? I'm like, yeah, you just might be a little old-fashioned. And then he was, like, pulling out my chair and opening my door.

He took it to the next level. Yeah, he was like so sweet. I was like, he just needed to be told it's OK. You don't have to like it. You know, it's old fashioned. So, yeah, some people get disturbed watching women get bloodied up. That's a big one for some folks. Yeah. Was it a thing for you? It feels different. Obviously, I'm a big fan of women fighting. But when I watch a big cut on a woman,

it feels different. Like if I was at Yuri Prohaska and that fight with Glover Teixeira had this giant cut over his eyebrow. It was a massive cut. But it didn't bother me. But if that was you, if that was a woman,

it was Valentina Shevchenko or something like that, I'd be like, Jesus, that's a big cut. And honestly, in my perspective, that's sweet. You know, that's nice. That's nice. You don't like to see women get cut up. Yeah, I think that's a really nice. I don't know why women or anybody is trying to get rid of that.

Well, I get it. But I mean, look, if you're going're gonna land elbows it is a part of the sport you're gonna get cut up it's like people are gonna get cut yeah just part of the game it's but you know if you if you want to say that like here's a good example like the the last ufc uh where it was uh zhang weili versus yohan yong jaychekacek and then Valentina Shevchenko versus Jesus Christ. Why am I not remembering her name? Is it the Chinese girl? No, no, no.

Valentina Shevchenko had a really tough fight. Talia Santos, which was an amazing fight. Split decision, which could have gone either way. And a lot of people are like, oh, this card sucks. I'm like, because of those two fights? Like, you think the card sucks because two, like, super ultra-competitive women fights that were insane and one of them was a spinning backfist knockout?

Do you have a problem with that? Yeah, right. Like, I don't understand where people get off on the internet judging any, like, when I'm in a building or at a fight, when people are booing, it boils my blood. It's like, you get in there and do that. Until you've done that, then you can talk about it. It's just like, do you boo like that at baseball? Because baseball, at its most exciting, is not as exciting as two people clinching.

Yeah, maybe the fight fans just need to get a couple more, I don't know, hot dogs or beers and just sit back and enjoy a little bit. Well, it's casuals, unfortunately. It's a lot of people that don't appreciate what's going on or how hard it is. Look, I can understand some fights where people get bored and they boo, especially in comparison to some other fights. I'm never going to be the one booing. No.

I wouldn't boo either, but there's some times where it's just like, oh, Jesus Christ. And you're at all of them. I'm at a lot of them. This past one was the first one I did. What do you think happens there when they're just, you know, nobody's trying to even make, they're just stuttering in front of each other. Like the Rose Namuunis fight, like that last fight.

Yeah. I love her, by the way. I do too. Yeah. Yeah, I do too. I love Carla Esparza too. I don't, I don't get it. I don't know.

I, you know, I'm a big fan of Pat Berry. I love him. But he was saying something different than the rest of the corner was saying. You know? It's like kind of when you go into a spa and then you just don't really want to be there or something. And you're not trying to, I don't know, it just isn't flowing. The chemistry is off or something. I think maybe the game plan was make Carla frustrated and take big risks because she has to win, right?

She has to go after Rose to win. But there was like, by the time we were in like round three, I was having this conversation with Cormier. I was like, who fucking knows who won? Who knows who's winning this? Because this is, nothing's happening. Like it's, when nothing's happening. This is my number one problem with scoring. The way we have scoring with MMA, that either one of those rounds could be a 10-9 round

or a round where someone beats someone pretty cleanly and lands a lot of shots could also be a 10-9 round. That doesn't make any sense. Right, right. Right. That's great. That's a flaw in the scoring system. Time to update the program.

Yeah, we need a better system. We don't need boxing system. We need something that, like, it shouldn't have anything to do with 10-9. It should be, there should be a bunch of factors, like volume, the amount of strikes, submissions, takedowns. Damage. All the damage, all that shit added up, and it should be a totally different I mean we should have scores like 5796 for one round you know 120 for another round like that kind of shit yeah, because that's more indicative of what's actually happening in a fight than 10 9

Yeah, that's awesome. That's how it should make it happen. How do we make that happen Jesus Christ? I don't know I've been preaching this for years and Everyone's like bro. You already fixed the system, but I don't know. I've been preaching this for years and everyone's like, bro, they already have fixed the system, bro. You don't understand the system. Like, I understand the system as it stands. What I'm saying is the system as it stands fucking sucks. Yeah, we can say that like over a multitude

of subjects as well. We need to get better systems. Yeah, not just for MMA, right? Yeah. It's interesting though though like for you to watch these women become superstars now like when you watch ronda because ronda was it was you and then it was ronda and you most certainly paved the way for someone like ronda like what was that like um i don't know for me at the the time, it was just, okay, so this, I was going to a college for

psychology and I'd show up to, you know, the college classes in full on pajamas. I didn't care. I wasn't paying attention. I didn't want to be there. I just, I felt like this is the thing you do after high school, right? You go to college. And I don't really think that it did me any favors because I'm a type of person that, you know, like idle hands. If I'm not interested in doing this, then I'll get into trouble. And so then we started getting into trouble. And I guess what happened was Kevin Ross, who you had on your show, and he's, I've known him for 21 years now. We're like that couple that's always on and off and everybody's like,

my family just stopped asking. They're like, are you together now on this Christmas? So he decided one night to, he'd always wanted to do mixed martial arts and he always loved Bruce Lee. And we were drinking, of course, these 40 ounces of Old English, which I don't know if you tried one lately.

Oh, yeah. Old English makes you reckless. And it's just like this much of it hurts. Yeah. We used to drink full. We used to try to go. I used to get to like a one and a half. That is strong stuff. Yeah, it's I tried it and I was like, I cannot believe I used to drink this poison. But his dad had asked him, you know, well, I'll, I'll sponsor you for your first couple lessons if you promise me to put that down.

And that night he put it down and he went and started training with a guy called Master Tati. Um, he's this Thai man who of course came from Thailand. Um, but he went over to the UK, taught over there and then he came to the States and, you know, like, uh like taught people like Angela Parr and John Wayne Parr who came before me as well Kit Cope and all of them so Kevin walked into the right gym and learned Muay Thai from the very authentic Thai style and then I would go in there and Master Chan who I think is still in Las Vegas, I would walk in and I'm still drinking and partying and everything.

He was like, oh, baby, you're fat. You need to lose weight. And I was like, no, that didn't come from my dad. That came from this Thai man that has nothing to gain in my life but to be like, hey, you need to work out. And so I immediately signed up for 20 lessons with him. So he fat shamed you in your training. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know if you know this. Thais are really good at that. Are they really? Yeah. I probably need Master Chan back in my life right now. If I'm being really honest, he's probably like, oh, baby, baby, get back in the training. They're so friendly, though. I wouldn't think that Thai people would be that.

Have you been to Thailand? Yes. I enjoyed it over there. They're always like, the first two weeks of training suck so bad because they're like, oh, too big, too big. You need to go down. And I'm like, I usually lose about 20 pounds the first two weeks just because I'm like, shit, this fat shaming just sucks. But I grew up in my family where I walked in and my grandmother, my grandmama Maxine, she'd be like, honey, no, you can't look like that on TV. Because she comes from the classical days.

She's like, no, you need to get in the gym and make sure that your face is good. So my family doesn't pull any punches either, and I'm okay with that. I think it's people around you telling you the truth, trying to make you better in life, which is my entire family, every single one of them. Yeah, it's a weird time today where you're not supposed to do that anymore.

Nobody stop around me. They want you to preserve people's feelings now but there's like fat shaming only works if you feel bad like if you feel bad if you do it or the person feels bad if it like you can't fat shame me yeah you know i'd be like oh i'm fat okay yeah it's not gonna work yeah like but if you have an issue with your weight and someone tries to fat shame you then it works yeah well i mean obviously like it's like not a great feeling but it is a necessary you know somebody cares about you when they're like hey you know be like okay hey um you're doing this in your life and it's probably not benefiting you like yeah how can i help you um you know and in my family the italian part of my family is just like

it's funny because you walk into like thanksgiving they're like okay you're five pounds up way to go you're gonna stay away from the mushroom raviolis this time and i'm like why do you have four different types of bread on the table this is is your fault. Well, people do it because they care about you sometimes, but sometimes they do it just because it's a place to be cruel. Well, I don't care about those people. Oh, that's good. Yeah. That's the internet. Yeah.

That's a lot of the internet. That's the entire Twitter. That's a lot of it. It's super unhealthy for them, too. They don't even realize it they're spitting out all this like emotional poison they're doing it all day long it's like that's not good it's not good for you either you can't feel good about yourself you're just being mean to people all day yeah but that says more about them than it does about you yeah it does and you

know look people talk like that all the time the difference is it seems different when it's written down you know like if you just had people alone in a barbershop they would just be talking shit and insulting yes which is great but now it's written down yeah that's the difference louis ck said that to me once and when he said it i was like oh i thought about differently he goes it's just talk. People always talk like that. But now it's written down. It looks different when you read it. And it's so not how people really are in person.

Like, I just did a Dallas Fan Expo for three days. And there was not one person in that whole expo that said one thing negative, hateful. Isn't that weird? Yeah. Meet people in real life. they're almost always nice. But they're almost, they're so, I feel like people are so beaten down right now from the internet, from thinking that this is how people are.

Yeah. That they're just beaten down and then they get out and I'm just hugging as many people as possible. I'm shaking their hands. I wish I had more time than that for, you know, those couple, three minutes with them because, you know, I'm not necessarily an extrovert. It's not like I want to be out there, like, and talking to a bunch of people. But I feel like that's what people need right now. And I love doing it.

So I've got, like, four more Fan Expos this year that they're tiring. And you have to keep your energy up for each different person. But I just think out of all the years I'm going to do this, it's going to be this year that they're tiring and you have to keep your energy up for each different person but I just think out of all the years I'm going to do this it's going to be this year so I can look people in the face and let them know that this isn't real life over here on the internet this is real life yeah for fighters it's particularly hard I think because fighting is such an emotional endeavor there's so so much of who you expose your soul to people. They see you quit or they see you succeed when you could have quit.

They see you, how hard you train. They see how well you deal with the pressure of the big moment of a huge fight. It is so emotional. Yeah. So when people attack fighters and a lot of these people are unaccomplished uneducated uncaring they they just they don't understand what they're doing with their words when they're using them they just which is like verbal diarrhea on twitter and

they're doing it to try to be insulting and mean and i watch fighters go back and forth with them and i always tell them hey man don't hey, man, don't read that shit. Don't read that shit. And definitely don't fucking respond. Yeah. I learned that a little bit late. Don't respond. Yeah.

Don't go back and forth with people. It's bad for you. Although, so you're not on Twitter very much, are you? I post and ghost. I post and I get the fuck out of there. I don't read anything. I read Twitter, but I read other stuff. You also have this platform where you can have people be drawn to and to hear your actual voice, which is really nice. Yeah.

That helps a lot because that's the real you versus the characterizations, caricatures. They'll make a version of you that's not real, and then they'll attack that version. And people love to do that. They love to take things out of context. They love to pretend you're someone you're not. I have Patricia Arquette. You know who that is? Sure.

She's coming at me on Twitter right now. She is? For what? The actress? Yes, who I absolutely look up to, you know. She did a recent film, I think it was on Apple, called Severanceance which is the microchip in the brain really cool series um and of course true romance was one of my favorite

movies to this day and she's coming after me so i had posted an article about if there's any time to stand up it's right now um is there if there's any time to get canceled for something or stand up or have there be some sort of controversy. It's like right now standing up for our constitutional rights. I feel like that's a good time to stand. Yeah. And she got on there and said, she said, they wouldn't know about their constitutional rights or something if it slapped them or smacked them in the face. And I was like, what?

Like, and so I responded to it and I said they meaning are you saying they are stupid are you calling half or more than half the country stupid they don't know about their constitutional rights because all you read right here is Fox News and then she went into this massive spiel about like the January 6th and everything which had nothing to do with the article what was the the article about? It was just about me talking about the cancel culture and how, you know, the mob came after me. And it had nothing to do about the election or nothing to do about January 6th. How did constitutional rights get factored into that? Just how I've been kind of very, I guess, anti-lockdown, anti-forcing people to vaccinate, forcing people to mask. I've been very vocal

about that. I guess vocal by being on Twitter and sharing quotes and things like that. Just I feel like, you know, I feel like we've lost a lot of our rights by this fear mongering and overreach of government. So, yeah. Yeah. Well, no, I think you're right about that. And I, I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that. I think it's an important thing to say. And I was saying it early. So I was saying it. You were saying it boldly. You were saying it when people were scared. Yeah. And that's one of the things that happened is that everybody got separated from everybody. It was an incredibly anxious time. Everybody was, so many people were so filled with anxiety already. Yeah.

Right? And then you take something like a deadly disease where you have to be locked in your house and then they're going to keep you from working. So a lot of people were in full panic because they're going to lose their business. Like how many people are out there check to check? Most of America. And then all of a sudden you can't go to work. And you don't know what to do and then something comes along

and it's a vaccine and this vaccine if you take it they'll let you go back to work and you better fucking take it and everybody gets crazy but fucking take it we need to get back to work no critical thinking about hey are we sure that this is the only way to do this

hey is this a one size fits-fits-all strategy for everybody? And when have we ever employed one of those? Like, hey, what's the actual scientific data on this medicine? Do you have any long-term studies? No, you don't. When do you want to release this stuff? You want to release the studies in 70 years? What the fuck are you talking about? You want release all the the results after everyone's dead yeah like that seems a

little suspicious um what i think a lot of us feel i don't know if you feel the same but for me um you know i had two grandfathers start a business from scratch and um you know made pretty good names for themselves and i've seen big businesses run up close and personal. I find it really hard to believe that they, the people that shut us down, you know, some of the most intelligent people, far more intelligent than I could ever imagine, didn't know by taking people's jobs away from them, taking their consistency, taking their livelihoods and saying, okay, you know, we're going to pay you and keep you home. Wasn't going to affect people's addictions, wasn't going to affect people's suit, like, you know, suicides purpose, you know, because I'm my best.

I'm my best self when I'm working, when I'm working. Most people are. My diet is under control. I'm working out. I have constant interaction with people, you know, you know, you're not like partying all the time is just structured and people need some of us need structure. Most of us do. I think it's probably a very small amount of people that can do jobs. And like, like right now, what I'm doing is I have to provide my own work. But I've also now got, you know, 30 years of like learning how to do this now. But when you take like a bus driver, when you take somebody who's been doing a job for 25 years and you take that away from them and you put them at home and now all of a sudden they're faced with their families and they're faced with themselves. And, you know, it's like a responsibility that you just you just took away their structure. Yeah.

So I just really find it hard to believe that this wasn't on purpose. I don't think it was on purpose. I think you're dealing with Monday morning quarterbacking, and I think people are looking at it and going, how did they not know this, and how did they not know that? What do you mean by Monday morning quarterbacking? Like pretending you would have done things differently because you would have been smarter on Sunday.

Like you would have seen it coming, and you would have done this, you would have done that. I think you're giving these people way too much credit. Smart people don't want to be in government. Smart people want to be CEOs of giant companies and make shitloads of cash. Corrupt people who use government to funnel money into their own accounts, whether it's through these giant fees they get paid in

these speaking engagements, or whether it's through insider trading, because they know about laws and bills that are going to be passed that's going to affect the stock market, and so they get in early. We know about these people. What, like Nancy Pelosi? Exactly. Yeah, and all of them. We talk about her all the time on this podcast.

Oh my gosh. How crazy is that? She's the greatest investor of all time. Do you know that she's better than George Soros and Warren Buffett? And nobody can talk about this? I mean, how is this not a bigger deal? It's corruption.

Yeah. It's sanctified corruption. Yeah. Sanctioned corruption. I just really do feel, I feel like this wasn't... I don't think they knew. I do.

I think they were in a panic, and I think they shut everyone down, and I think they like controlling down, and I think they like controlling people and telling people what to do, and they didn't want to give up control. But I think some states were like, fuck that. Get back to work. We need to live.

We need to give people the freedom. And this is why people celebrated Ron DeSantis in Florida. This is why people celebrated Greg Abbott in Texas. That's why I moved here. I don't want anybody telling me what to do. This is a pandemic right but it's not a pandemic like fucking smallpox this is a different thing this is not the Spanish flu it's gonna kill 50 fucking million people in this country I know so when I was

thinking about pandemic right I'd just gotten wrapped on Mandalorian season two um re-wrapped like four days before they decided to lock everybody down. And by the way, I was a complete lunatic. Like I was like a pandemic. I was like, oh, my gosh, people are going to get boils on their skin and their arms are going to start falling off or like they're going to, you know, like people were worried. Like my idea of what pandemic meant was so much different than what it ended up being. Because everybody's idea was different look when people first started first of all there was a lot of things that happened early on one of the things they put people on ventilators very early ventilators 80 of the

people that got on put on ventilators died yeah and my friend who's a doctor said a lot of those people were survived right so a lot of them it became like a death sentence to go into the hospital in that but but that's also money Monday morning quarterbacking because they thought these people's respiratory systems were going to shut down. No one knew how bad it was in the early days. But the people took a long time. They were silencing people. I know they were silencing people because there's so many voices. But they were silencing anybody that was saying, hey, this medication could be better. And they're still silencing people. That's why it feels so on purpose.

It's like the silencing coupled with the obvious benefits that some of them are succeeding in all of what they're doing. How many government officials became millionaires here? Billionaires. I just feel like— I don't know how many government officials became billionaires, but a lot of humans that were connected to the government and connected to the decisions that were made yeah did become billionaires well everybody's husbands that works well it's also just like people like a lot of people that were working in these pharmaceutical companies that

produce these vaccines they made enormous enormous amounts of profit and they were protected this is the most important part they were protected from liability is the most important part. They were protected from liability, which is nuts. But that's the only way they were willing to do this, the way they did it. I'm glad that I don't agree with you on everything because I do feel like it was so on purpose. I don't think it's on purpose. I don't think they would release a virus that kills millions of people on purpose. I don't think that they would crush the economy on purpose. I think there's a lot of poor decision making that was done.

First of all, a lot of it was done with the idea that it has to seem like you're doing something because you are in government and you are a person that's in charge. I hope you're right. I'm pretty sure I'm right about that. I think there's a lot of people that get all tinfoily hattie on that's in charge. I hope you're right. I'm pretty sure I'm right about that. I think there's a lot of people that get all tinfoil-y, hatty on that kind of shit. Well, underneath here. I just don't see.

I just don't see how these intelligent people, I just don't see how they didn't know that this was going to happen. I just don't see how they didn't know there was going to be a mental health crisis. I don't think they're that intelligent. And I don't think they thought it was going to last this long. I don't think they thought it was, like, it was two weeks to stop the spread.

It does completely change. It was two weeks to flatten the curve. Remember that? Yeah. Yeah. Which was it ever going to be just two weeks? If everybody stayed home and did absolutely nothing for two weeks, it probably could have been. You know, Lorenzo Fertitta was the first person, or it's Frank.

Frank Fertitta was the first person to suggest that. You know what he said? He said, listen, let's shut the fucking country down for one month. Nobody does anything for one month. He goes, let's just pull the fucking Band-Aid off. And he was right, if everybody really did that. The problem is nobody does that. You go over to your friend's house, you start drinking, you're hanging out.

One buddy likes to go to the store. He goes to the store. He talks to the grocer. The grocer's got COVID. You come home, you give it to grandma. Grandma dies. It's like, that's the reality of people. They go around, they do different things. And that's why people are like, wear a mask, stay at home. They're screaming like, you're going to stop this. But you got to look at humans for what they actually are we are these animals that like to be around each other we're very uh tribal we we we need each other's company and we go fucking crazy when we don't have each other's company well i thought when they had the lockdowns i thought there was going to be riots on the street just because of the lockdowns i thought there was going to be like people around the street like no you know you can't lock us down i thought just

because i guess you know because if the world was like you yeah you'd be like fuck this i'm going out well no i'm actually the most homebody person ever i mean i could stay in my house for three months and not see a soul and be just fine like right but you're not the type of person that wants anybody telling you what to do i just don't i looked at it so let me the first two weeks i i was a lunatic i was a california covid karen to the max i went to i was so stressed out i was like mom because she was a lunatic. I was a California COVID Karen to the max. I went to, I was so stressed out. I was like, mom, because she was in Las Vegas. I was like, I don't think you're taking this seriously enough.

And she's like, darling, it's going to be okay. And I'm like, I packed up all my stuff because I didn't know if like we were going to get stuck in California. You know, I didn't want to get stuck away from my family. So I packed up all my stuff. I headed to Las Vegas. I stayed with my mom. And every time she came in the door, I was like, wipe your shoes. I was a lunatic. Yeah, because I was scared. I didn't know what a pandemic was. And then like, I was like, my stepdad would go out and I'm like, here's your mask, here's your mask. And I was wiping down all the groceries. And then I got so crazy into it that I was like, I got like a toolbox out of the garage and I was like, I just snapped. Did you get COVID ever?

I guess so, probably. But I would. You don't know? Well, I mean, I tested positive on a test. Does that count? Yes. Okay. I think that means you had COVID.

Yeah. Unless it's a false positive. Yeah, which those exist. Did you get an antibody test? No. Damn, we could have given you one. Yeah, but what exist. Did you get an antibody test? No. Damn, we could have given you one. Yeah, but what do you have to do for that? I don't know.

Easy. Blood test. Takes two seconds. No, no, no. Pinprick. Very quick. Jamie's the king. He's got the best antibodies in the land.

Tested today. How thick were they? Pretty thick. How often do you test? He does it just to show off. Just to make sure. His gigantic, his antibody line is like a fat Sharpie line. Like legitimately.

Yeah, so I think I, you know, well, what happened was I went out in Las Vegas and I got a hangover, right? Because I'm not old enough to have those yet. I need to learn my lesson already. But I went out in Las Vegas. I got a hangover. And then I wasn't feeling good the next day. So I was like, Okay, I'm not feeling good. It's right before Christmas. And I was like, my mom's like, Are you sure this is a hangover? And I'm like, Yeah, I'm pretty sure. But if you

want to test me, I don't, you know, it's your house. And she tested me and it was positive. And it was pretty aggressive. Like I was really, really sick for about seven days. It was pretty aggressive. Like, I was really, really sick for about seven days. My body was aching. Like, it hurt. Like, everything hurt so bad. So you definitely had COVID.

Yeah. So why are you saying, like, I guess? I guess I did. I mean. I mean, you definitely had it. You have all the symptoms of COVID and you tested positive. Fine. I had COVID. I had COVID.

I don't. I don't. But where did. Okay. So COVID is definitely different than the flu then. It's fine. I had COVID. I had COVID. I don't, I don't, but where did, okay. So COVID's definitely different than the flu then is definitely. It's definitely different than the flu. It's, this is an engineered virus. This is a virus that was created in a fucking lab. I don't think they did it on purpose. I really don't. No, I think, I think the Chinese lab in which they did it in Wuhan was so bad. in Wuhan was so bad, they were cited for safety violations as recently as I think 2018. I think the real question is, why were they doing this kind of research? And the people that understand the research that they were doing, like Barack Obama stopped that stuff from happening in 2014. He put the kibosh on that back then.

When the Trump administration was kind of chaotic, that's when they started it all up again. And they were lying about funding it. They were lying about funding it. They were saying, we don't fund it. But you do fund EcoHealth Alliance, and EcoHealth Alliance funds the Wuhan lab. So shut the fuck up. This is all crazy. Like these guys, the emails alone that were transferred back and forth from Peter Datzik and Anthony Fauci and all these people that were involved in the funding of this research, just the way they were framing it and the way they were disparaging legitimate scientists and legitimate doctors that were not lockstep in agreement with them.

It's fucking shameful. It's not scientific. Shameful as in people need to be in prison, maybe? Fuck yeah. And not only that, this should be a thing. Rand Paul's the only one who calls them out on it. And he does it on a regular basis. And he's 100% correct in the things that he's saying

about the funding of this particular type of research. Because when you see Fauci say that it's not gain-of-function research, but that's not true because the NIH says it's gain-of-function research. They all say it now because they want to protect their own ass. This is a rumor online, and I'm going to ask you a bunch of— Okay, so is Dr. Fauci's wife on the NIH, isn't she like one of the heads? Isn't that some sort of thing? Let's find out.

She does something. She has some function. And he used to be the head of the NIH during that whole AIDS thing. He's been running it. We're not making any comparisons to, if you make any comparisons to him. She's the head of the Department of Bioethics.

It's the National Institute of Health Clinical Center. Yes, there it is. Do you think maybe this is a problem? Well, it's fucking, it's all crazy, because these people are, they have massive amounts of power to decide who gets funded, what labs get funded, and no one wants to step out of line. There's a crazy fucking book that I'm in the middle of. It's a very controversial book.

And it was one of those books, I'm like, God, do I want to get into this? Robert Kennedy Jr.'s. I got like 10. Oh, yeah. Yes. Robert Kennedy Jr.'s book, The Real Anthony Fauci. Holy fucking shit. Yeah.

Like, there's some stuff in that that is 100% verifiable truth. Yeah. And it's crazy. I know that's the only time I think I've ever, I got your number from Kevin and I was like, dude, have you had Robert? Have you had him? No, I haven't had him on. And I was, I don't know if you got that text message,

but I'm like, oh, it was one of those idiots that texted him saying you should have this so-and-so on your podcast. Ah, that's fine. Listen, that's how I find out about a lot of really interesting people. But he had, I had talked to him because he's got the child health defense

program that he does and um it's interesting enough his wife is an actress i think i don't know if it's um she's the wife on curb your enthusiasm yes so you know um she was fully vaccinated and has publicly said you know like while robert was getting in trouble she's like i do not have the same beliefs as my husband, you know? And everybody was like, oh, ouch. Like, why are you going to do that to your husband? You remember when Kellyanne Conway was the White House press secretary and then her husband hates Trump?

Yeah. So her husband was publicly against Trump. I like that. I love that. I love that. I think we need more of that. Yes. Why not?

Yeah. People can be married and have completely different views. Yeah. But she totally like, like was like, I'm not, I'm not with more of that. Yes, why not? People can be married and have completely different views. Yeah, but she totally was like, I'm not with him on this. And I was like, damn, I don't know if I'd ever do that. But Robert, I got on the phone with him and I was like, you know, I'm afraid our union, SAG-AFTRA union, is going to mandate these vaccines. Is there any taking them to court? How do we figure this out? And he's like, well, and I didn't know this.

He's like, well, my wife is an actress and there's no getting around it right now. And I was like, damn. And I even looked up online today, they still are extending that mandate till mid-July with all the information about it being safe and effective and with all of that stuff coming out, how are they still mandating this and anything?

I think that the people that are mandating it need to be made an example out of. Well, it's very strange. I think they do it because they think it's the right thing to do. I don't think they do it. You have such a more positive outlook than I do. I just, I'm objective. I'm objective. I look at, I try to look at everything objectively. I try to look at everything. What does that mean? Objective? I don't look at it in terms of what

the answer that I want to be correct. I look at it in terms, I don't look at it like, oh, I'm suspicious because I go, well, what are the actual facts and why would people do this and why would people do that? When you're the head of a union, okay, and you have something like a national public crisis, a national public health crisis, you have to show that you are taking the correct actions. The general belief of the public is the correct action is to be vaccinated. of the public is the correct action is to be vaccinated. If you are going to step outside of that and say, we're going to take a rebellious position and we're not going to mandate that people be vaccinated, but we are going to mandate that people have to work and we're going to put them in these sets and we're going to have them around people. But the general consensus is for

most people think that you're supposed to be vaccinated. Right. I would say like more than 60 percent of the population thinks you should be vaccinated. When these people are on the set with these people that are represented by a union that doesn't think you have to be vaccinated, the other people that are vaccinated and feel like they did the right thing now feel like they're being put in danger by other folks, which is really wild, right? Because if that fucking vaccine worked, you wouldn't be thinking like that because you would be thinking, now I can't get it. Remember when Rachel Maddow was saying that on television? Remember when Anthony Fauci was saying that? You're not going to spread the disease.

You're not going to catch the disease. That's not true. So which is why I don't think that 60% of the population still think it needs to be right. I think most people are not aware of all this. Most people are not listening to me. They're not listening to the podcast. They're not reading the real Anthony Fauci.

Most people are getting their news from CNN or from MSNBC or whatever the fuck they listen to, even Fox News. Do you feel like it's changing a little bit, though? I don't know. Not on those. It's changing a little in that they're starting to be open about the fact that why are people still sick? Why are people getting boosted? Fauci's had two boosters, and he's sick with COVID. Maybe it protected him.

Maybe it did. I'd like to know whether or not he took remdesivir because there's a lot of studies that show that that stuff is toxic to your kidneys. And this is all, this is something that also is in that book, the real Anthony Fauci book. I wish I was, you know, a little bit more objective. I wish I was like that, but my brain kind of works off of, um, maybe more emotional. Would that make me more? Mine does too.

I just don't let it. Maybe more emotional. Would that make me more? Mine does too. I just don't let it. I feel like when I see them still mandating something that all of these documents have come out and said, what is it, 13, 14 percent effective. You know, all of these people are still getting COVID-19 and all that. to push on and force people to get this vaccine that they don't believe in is, in my just simple mind, it just seems like an abuse of power to kind of weed out the people that will comply and weed out the people that won't comply. And so that now, you know, we don't have I think we don't have such like, you know, a big as big of a problem. You know, we don't have I think we don't have such like, you know, a big as big of a problem. I think there's an element of that, but I think the element of that comes after the decisions were already made. The decisions were made, in my opinion, originally to try to protect the public health.

And then it became a thing where there is a tremendous amount of money that's being funneled into various organizations, into various politicians, into campaign funds, into all these different things. And it's by these enormous pharmaceutical companies. I don't think that like it wasn't like when Trump came out and said, you know, we're going to, you know, shut, shut the world down for a second. You know, I don't think that that i feel like that was a really hard decision because if he didn't then they would have ammunition on him for you know a lifetime and it would have just been like i mean i feel like that was a really hard decision for well it's a hard decision period because you don't know what to do yeah so it's like the two weeks to slow the spread

but now in looking back at the lockdowns looking back at the mass looking back at the lockdowns, looking back at the masks, looking back at the forced vaccinations, I feel like anybody who's enforcing it moving forward is absolutely criminal. But the thing is, in California, they don't think like that. In California, there are a lot of people that I'm friends with. See, this is why this is one of the reasons why I disagree. There's people that I'm friends with, OK, that aren't even in the fucking movie industry. They're not even in Hollywood. And they think everyone should be vaccinated and boosted and they've even had second boost. And I know people that have had boosts and they've had problems because of it.

They've gotten wrecked. Yeah. And they're still in support of boosting in this because they think that this is the way to go to protect everybody. I'm like, protect everybody still? this because they think that this is the way to go to protect them. I'm like, protect everybody still? We're in July of 2022, okay? Omicron is the latest variant. I had it for a day. I didn't even believe I had it. I came in here, my nose was sniffling. I was joking with our nurse and I said, maybe this is it. Maybe I got it. She was like, you're not going to believe it. You're positive. I go, shut the fuck up.

I'm like, this is COVID? Granted, this is after I'd already had Delta. So I had immunity. I had some antibodies. And I basically had sniffles. The next day I was negative, by the way. And so do you feel like the first time you got it, Delta was it then? That was real.

First time I got it was real. And do you feel like the second time you got it, you're immune? Yes. Yeah. My antibodies had kicked in. In fact, Bill Gates feel like the second time you got it, you're, I mean, yeah. Yeah. My antibodies had kicked in. In fact, Bill Gates had said this. It's getting weaker, right? Bill Gates had said this, which the way he said it, I think he phrased it in a clumsy way, which, by the way, I can relate to because I do that every day. But he said when he was talking about it that, unfortunately, Omicron works better than the vaccine yeah at protecting people

yeah and it really does so i got delta which was the first everybody had that over christmas yes omicron was omicron's very mild so my thing is if you're not gonna force something else because it was not mild for me i bet you had delta right delta's rough some people get bad from omicron but you know a lot of people that really i have friends that got really bad from Omicron But a lot of people I have friends that got really sick from Omicron And they're vaccinated And they got really sick from it And there's some concern that Omicron

Might be what's called a vaccine escape variant What a vaccine escape variant is Is when you have variants that are what they call Vaccines that are leaky vaccines Vaccines that offer protection But don't provide you immunity, right? So it offers you some antibodies, and it protects you from getting really seriously ill, but it doesn't stop you from getting it.

Well, then the virus figures out a way to get around those antibodies. So what it does is it kind of mutates and favors the vaccine variants which can get through your antibodies. So what it does is it kind of mutates and favors the vaccine variants, which can get through your antibodies. So like, say if you're vaccinated for the original strain, right, the original strain of COVID, well, that's not around anymore. So you have B cell and T cell memory that protect you somewhat. But when your body tries to react and produce antibodies for that original strain, that original strain is not around anymore. And then this Omicron sneaks in through the door because you were like, where is COVID? Where is it? We're looking for it out here.

And this Omicron COVID sneaks right in the back door and people get really sick. Right. So this is the speculation why some people get really sick that are vaccinated with Omicron. Whereas a lot of people that are not vaccinated that get Omicron aren't getting as sick. Right. Right. But that's also anecdotal. It's kind of weird though.

It could be those people that aren't getting as sick were healthier. They take better care of themselves. There's so many variables. Yeah. I just don't like when people tell me there's a one size fits all approach to health. Yeah. Because I know there's, I know there's people that are doing way more for their health. Right.

They're taking vitamins. They're resting and exercising. Then there's other people that are drinking and doing heroin. Right. We can't say that these people are, they both need the same treatment for a fucking disease. Right, or there's people who are like 350 pounds that are like, well, I'm fat, so you have to take this for me, for my health. Exactly.

Me and Kevin are good examples. Like, you know, I love food. I love drink. You know, you know, I love to hang out. He loves to get up and run his six miles. You know, he loves to, well, he doesn't do very good with whiskey, so he's not really allowed for whiskey. But, you know, he doesn't very rarely pollute his body.

Right. And in my head, you know, it's like, I can't until I'm doing everything I possibly can to take care of myself, um, and be responsible for my health. Who am I going to be to be like, Hey, you have to take, this is what I would take. I would take these antibiotics. You have to take these antibiotics. Um, and you know, I have a very close friend of mine who is still masking and is still doing all this. And she says, you know, because she's about, you know, 300 pounds and she's like, well, I'm fat. So I, you know, I should be able to like I have to protect myself and protect my own. And I'm like, well, I mean, if you want to feel better, there's other places to do that. You know, like lose some some weight maybe not get healthy yeah

but you know we live in a culture where you're not supposed to say that this was a really interesting part of the early part of the pandemic why why can't we we're america we're united states well we can say it you can still say it but a lot of people are going to freak out but i can i can i can tell people like i understand i'm not necessarily healthy all the time, you know. Yeah. And I know that in looking in the mirror, I have to take responsibility for that. I have to take my own responsibility and not push that responsibility off on everybody else and make some lifestyle changes. And if I don't, then, you know, I have to deal with those.

But you have a lot of people in this country that are living in denial about health in regards to being obese. Like there's a lot of people that think there's absolutely nothing wrong with it and that it's healthy and that it's a lie and that dieting is unhealthy. Like there's a lot of crazy talk today. And if you get in the wrong echo chamber online, you can be a victim of that kind of crazy talk because you start believing it. I feel like what people are what they're saying is like, see, what I'm saying is you can be a victim of that kind of crazy talk because you start believing it. I feel like what people are, what they're saying is like, see what I'm saying is you can be beautiful. I believe beauty comes from, I feel beauty very much comes from. Comes from within?

Yes, Joe, I feel that. I feel like. You should write cards, like Hallmark cards. Maybe I will after I don't have a job for the rest of my life. No, I do. I feel like a soul shines through and your mind is beautiful and your heart is beautiful. That's true. Those are true things.

There's beautiful people that aren't aesthetically pleasing. And so when we get into this conversation of, okay, so you're 300 pounds, it doesn't mean I think you're not beautiful. It doesn't mean I don't think that, um, you can't be beautiful with weight on you. I mean, honestly, some guys really prefer it. I don't, you know, like Kevin actually, he actually likes a little bit of cushion, you know, it's really strange. Like it's funny. I'm like, thank God god but i don't think he likes too much cushion so i'm on the over i'm over cushioning right now um but like i don't i think that's where we kind of go wrong is like we don't have to hate um i don't think that people aren't beautiful if they have extra weight on themselves um i think that people have different um tastes you know like some people

definitely have different tastes but relatively speaking people are this is very generally speaking people are generally more attracted to people who are physically healthy because sexual attraction is a lot about who can you breed with yeah and if you see someone and they're built like a bowling ball and they're just sitting there eating cake all day like generally speaking like that is not a good person to breed with. Like this is not a good specimen. Yeah. You know.

So like the natural instincts of something. Yes. Well, in a world where that we're not really working off of, you know, common sense or natural anything. Right. I think that maybe that's getting a little bit skewed and maybe people are finding themselves attracted to things that they normally wouldn't have been attracted to. And there's a little of that, but it's also social media. People pretend that they like things because it makes them seem more virtuous. Like they pretend that if you, uh, aren't attracted to someone who's overweight, then you're ableist or you're sizist. Although they'll come up with like terms for why, like they shouldn't go to the gym.

You know, there's, there's a lot of that going on where there's just people reinforcing other people's really bad ideas. And then there's maybe a different take on just beauty is kind of in the eye of the beholder a little bit more. It definitely is. Yeah. No, it definitely is. I know a girl and she likes really skinny guys. They have heroin problems. Yeah. That's like her thing.

She wants to see their ribs. That's her thing. But I mean, I don't know why. And I know guys like that. I see guys that are attracted to women where you have to see the ribs. And there's like, you know. The guys that I attract are probably more the guys

that are like, oh, you could push her up against the wall and she's not going to break. She might break the wall. Yeah. Bring down the wall. We actually almost brought down the wall in a movie Haywire did me and Michael Fassbender. Yes, I bring down walls. There you go.

I feel like that's what's going on is like this battle between, you know, like one side is like, hey, like health, you know, like let's support health. Let's not like make this this OK over here. And this other side is just like, you know, let's let's make a beauty in the eye of the beholder. And there is a I do think there's a middle ground where most of us live in. It doesn't have to be just so, you know, black and white. It can be it can be both. I think you're right. It can be both.

I think you're right. I also think that the idea like what one person is attracted to, everybody has to agree on is nuts. Nuts. Because first of all, I'm attracted to women. I can't believe they're attracted to me. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. If I had to date guys, I'd be disgusted. Yeah.

If I had to date only people who look like me, I'd be like, Jesus Christ, this sucks. Yeah. This is not what I like. But women like men and men like women and some men like men and some women like women. Like you should be able to like whatever the fuck you want. But don't lie about what's healthy. This is where I'm like, it's not about beauty. Like if you want to think you're beautiful because you're anorexic, I mean, I don't know what to tell you.

It's not good for you. Absolutely. want to think you're beautiful because you're anorexic i mean i don't know what to tell you it's not good for you absolutely and i i think that that is a nice balance is like there's a difference between health and beauty yes and the eye of the beholder right but it's just like i mean i'm super attracted to i'm not attracted to muscles i'm not attracted to i'm attracted to more of like the um you know lean muay thai long legs lean lean Muay Thai body that's complete opposite my body. I'm attracted to that. I don't really like big- Well, like you found Kevin Ross. Yeah.

That's perfect. Yeah. What a weird thing that you would be attracted to a Muay Thai fighter and date a Muay Thai fighter. But where did this start off? Who did I have on my posters on my wall? But more than his body or anything, I like his artistic mind. I like how he's the quiet guy in the room. Right.

Like this quiet strength. Yeah. Confidence. Yes. Yeah. And he's just got like this no bullshit meter. I love that. Yeah.

But I love his art. So the poster that I had when I was 16, it was like all Johnny Depp. All Johnny Depp everything um and then Angelina Angelina Jolie so those were like my two poster people well they're pretty fucking beautiful both of those two yeah pretty tough to beat in terms of like just the aesthetics of their face but like Johnny Depp screams art to me well he's an artistic guy do you know him at all no no very sweet guy is he sweet guy well he's got artistic guy. Do you know him at all? No, no. He's a very sweet guy. Is he?

Sweet guy. Well, he's got a fan in me. If he wants to do a canceled movie, I'm down. I don't think he's canceled anymore. I think he's back. Yeah, I'm trying to be back, too. I don't know if it's working. I think you can be back.

What you said, we defended you because what you said was not incorrect. And the problem, the only problem was the comparison to the Holocaust. Yeah. And I get that people have a hard time comparing things to the Holocaust. But if you go to Nazi Germany, excuse me, if you go to Germany in like 1930, there's not a chance in hell anybody ever saw that coming. No one saw what happened and the way Jews were demonized and the evil Nazi empire that took over within 14, 13, 12 years, it was happening. That's crazy. And that happens by othering people. And that's what you were saying. That is what you were saying. I was saying, cause I think I was, I've been a little

bit naive in my life. Um, I would always look at these, you know, the stories of the Holocaust and I'd always think, oh, my gosh, like, how did that ever happen? How did that ever happen in people's brains while you're in like their neighborhood and they are kicking these people out of their homes? They're taking you out and you're watching your neighbors get arrested. How did anybody let that happen? I just didn't understand it. know arrested how did anybody let that happen i just didn't understand it and um and and i've been a very you know i'm i mean if you look through every single post on my you know twitter account i mean i i watch movies all the time on the holocaust and i'm really you know my heart i'm like the one that's bawling at these these stories like chandler's list um sure and uh you know have

you ever seen swing kids which is direct, you haven't seen Swing Kids? No. So it's directly what I was talking about. I actually had that in mind when I posted this. It's a bunch of German boys, and they would do swing as their rebellion, so they'd dance swing. And there was a group of them. Well, then the Nazis started to kind of, like, infiltrate them, and, you know, they had two of them signed up for it. And I don't want to ruin the ending or anything, but you saw how the brainwashing started happening with each different person.

And it was like, it was really, it's a very, I'd watch it. That's what I had in my mind was neighbors turning against neighbors. And we saw that. Yeah. And what had happened, but the whole reason why that happened and they kind of came after me so hard over that. They were already on you. They were on me for like, what were they on you for? They were looking for a reason to hate you. I think because I just wasn't, I just wasn't towing their line. I just wasn't, you know, I wasn't putting

the black squares up. I wasn't saying, OK, masks and lockdowns. And I wasn't saying vaccinate. And I wasn't like doing all that. Were you saying something against that? What was the thing? I said, look, if I said a lot of stuff, I said, if people are out there on the streets, right, and protesting, I think we can open up our churches and our businesses and continue on. I mean. Oh, that's what you said.

Don't you? Don't you talk logically? And then I beep bopopped and booped. So me and Kevin are sitting there watching a UFC fight. And all these people are attacking me online. And they're like, put trans rights in your bio. Put trans rights and do this. And I'm like, why are all these people being so aggressive?

In your bio? They were asking you to put trans rights in your bio? Yeah, like tweet out trans rights, hashtag trans rights. And then they were saying, put your pronouns in your bio. And it was really aggressive. And me and Kevin are just like cooking chicken wings and like watching the fights. And I was like, you know, so I was like, this is aggressive. And I was like, OK, I'm going to put something in my bio that like, you know, like I didn't know why people were putting this in their bio.

I just wasn't with it. I had no idea Jordan Peterson had ever been canceled like, you know, years and years before. So I just wasn't with it. I had no idea Jordan Peterson had ever been cancelled years and years before. So I just wasn't with it with the pronouns. So I was like, Kevin, what should I put? He's in the kitchen and I'm like, what should I put? He's like, I don't know. I was like, beep bop boop. And he's like, yeah, just put that. And so I wasn't trying to make fun of trans people. I was saying, my statement was to be like, you can put anything you want in your bio. It's not, you know, like you can do whatever you want. And the publicists were like, well, you know, if you hadn't put slashes in between, and if you would have added

a word, it wouldn't, you know, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Oh my God. I was like, so then all the people that were coming after me, I just started booping him. Cause I like you know those little gift boops I just started booping him because I felt like I didn't want to I don't like to be mean I'm not a mean person so I was I I've gotten canceled over I feel like I'm in the detention room and I have no idea why I'm there I'm like for booping people for saying you should keep the world open for, you know, medical freedom. And then for putting up a, yeah, it was, I think the image on the meme was aggressive. But coming from a passionate place, I think that I just wanted people to have conversations. And that's all I was really wanting.

You recognized it was crazy. Yeah. There was a thing that's going on where when people start telling someone that looks like me to put your pronoun in your twitter bio like hey no yeah get the fuck out of here yeah like maybe i'm a woman maybe maybe but what are the odds most likely you got some freaky shit in there though maybe maybe but most likely not and if i was i would fucking tell you okay if i felt like i was a woman i'd let you know yeah and until then shut the fuck up yeah just leave me alone yeah it's like we're dealing with the smallest percentage of a population and then you know that gets exaggerated in terms of like the the response it gets from the general

public because it seems to be something that if you're a compassionate, kind, caring person, this is what you support. I support everybody in every way until you start telling me what to do. Same. I'm not interested in that. I don't like the bullying that came along with it. So, yeah, I was very vocal about all of it. And I don't think that I was toying their line I also don't think that so I never told anybody who I voted for right like and to be real I've never voted in my life which is not like a proud thing but in 2020 I just have

I've never believed I maybe this is growing up in the grunge phase or whatever. I just never believed in like I didn't I never believed it counted. So I was. But when 2020 came around, I knew that after the devastation of what had happened with COVID and the lockdowns and all of that, I wanted to make sure we had a strong leader that was going to be able to get this economy back. Because once again, it's like work makes people healthier. It gives people structure. It helps us like survive and gives us pride, you know, gives us pride to work hard in our country. It gives me pride to work hard. I love to work. It's my favorite thing to do. So, so I wanted to make sure that I was going to actually vote in 2020. But I never told I wasn't like, you know, you know, all the celebrities that like took off their clothes and did these campaigns and they're like, you know, vote for who we're voting for.

And they're like doing these naked campaigns and nobody asked for. And it was like, like, and they're all letting you know very much so that they're voting Democrat and they're voting for Biden and all this. And I'm like, all I did, this is the only thing I did. I put a sticker on my hand that says I voted and a hate campaign trending again. And all I did was I didn't even tell people who I voted for. I didn't. I just said I finally I voted, you know, for my first time. And I did a little like sparkly, you know, thing. And they're mad at you for that. Because they they're putting all of their right. Like I never was the person to run around with a red mega hat on or mega hat did

you vote for trump is that what you're trying to say yes i did but i wasn't that person though that was like and i but i didn't like i didn't like how they were being treated because they were passionate about who they were voting for just because they were so passionate about that as well as like these people like why couldn't we have equal passion? The problem is the way Trump behaves makes it the people who oppose him feel like they're very justified in their anger because he fights people. Like if you if you say something that he opposes, he goes after you. He gets angry and he insults people. He mocks people. I understand both divides people.

I understand both of that. Right. I understand very much so. Like people would prefer more professional voice. But these are the you're not voting for Trump, though. And I was like, well, yeah, I am going to. And he was like, Gina. And I'm like, what has Joe Biden said in his past that Trump hasn't said? I mean, if you look through all of Joe Biden's history and I was like and to be honest, that three years of very positive economy that he was in charge, I would be pissed off if I was him, too. They didn't give him a fair shake in the news to save his life. I mean, like they were the CNN hoax and the Russian hoax and all of that just on top of him. And, you know, they're just as guilty as Trump was as dividing the media is, you know, and now they're kind of breaking down and going to people like you and going

elsewhere. And the media is now suffering, which as they should, because they're just as guilty as... But they have a problem and they have an outrage economy. Yeah. That's a big part of what they sell is trying to get people outraged about something. So they find things to exaggerate and become outraged at. And we're going to get pretty sick and tired of that. The worst things get, they're going to have to start reporting on real news. Well, I think that's what CNN's strategy is now. CNN was purchased. Oh, they got a different owner now?

Yes. And one of the big things that this guy's saying is that he wants to bring back the objective news journalism instead of editorializing things, instead of commentary, instead of opinion, instead of all this bullshit that you get from these Brian Stelter, Don Lemon type characters. That's the reason why people don't want to listen to CNN. Yeah. If CNN just stuck with subjects that are important to the world and to the American people, and here's the problem with the

shipping crisis. This is what's going on. Here's what we know about, you know, this attack on this person. Here's what we know about this oil leak. That kind of shit is what people go to CNN for. They don't go to CNN to listen to the opinions of dorks, you know, and that's what they were trying to sell. And that's why their credibility kept dropping. And then when they were attacking other people, it's just, God, it's so transparent what you guys are doing. You're little fucking watchdogs for the pharmaceutical industry, which is they're being directed. If you find out that, one of the things we found out when we were doing this podcast is 75% of all television ads are from pharmaceutical drug companies. Pfizer. Unbelievable.

But they think with news, it's even higher than 75%. 75% for all of television. But with news, it's probably even higher than that. Yeah. And this is the reason why they frame things the way they do. This is the reason why they cover stories the way they do. This is the reason why they never talk about adverse events, adverse side effects. They never talk about the VAERS reports and the under-reporting.

They never talk about any of that shit. They never talk about when people who are famous people who have a horrible reaction to vaccine, whether they die or have strokes or whatever, they gloss it over. Yeah. No need to talk about that. And until they do, I don't think that they're going to get their name back. You know what I mean? Right. And until they do, I don't think that they're going to get their name back. You know what I mean? Until they genuinely, the government, so like the government, the medical companies, the media, everybody needs, you know, the Disney.

Everybody needs to kind of break it back down. They need to realize that trust, our trust in the government is probably at an all-time low. I mean, our trust in medical information is at an all time low. Nobody trusts anything. And I'm like, I don't trust anything. I was all a big fan of modern medicine and I still am. I'm not absolutely ridiculous when, I don't want to take it. I'm becoming one of those people where I'm like, okay, I don't want to take Tylenol if I don't need Tylenol just because I have a little headache. You know, where it's like before I was like, pop a Tylenol in there, you know, like now I'm kind of thinking. I read a terrible story about a woman who got COVID and died from Tylenol. Well, geez. No, really, you can die from Tylenol. So. Yeah.

So this is what it was. We need to break it down. Right. from Tylenol. So yeah, so this is what it was. We need to break it down, right? We need to kind of like go back to, you know, water, healthy eating, you know, kind of break ourselves back down, put away, you know, put away the things that we're using that is hurting us and try to kind of get our systems clean. And then we can really see what the big problems are, you know, and then we can kind of figure out how to get healthier from there, I think. Yeah, I should be clear about this.

I'm not saying you shouldn't take Tylenol. What I'm saying is that there is a dose that's lethal for Tylenol, and it's not really that high. Really? No, it's not. This woman, she had COVID and she was in, you know, she's in pain. She had the horrible body aches and she took Tylenol and it wasn't helping. And so she took more and it wasn't helping and she took more and she wound up in the hospital and she had liver

failure. I think that's important to know. It is important to know because a lot of people don't know that Tylenol will fucking kill you. Yeah. Like what is the lethal dose of Tylenol? Let's find that out. I was all, I was using Tylenol rapid release when I was sick. I was like popping that thing. Tylenol will fuck you up. It will fuck you up. So you don't. I don't take anything. When I had my knee surgery, I didn't take shit.

Really? Yeah. I was like, I'm not taking nothing. I'm always like, can I have six? When I had my first knee surgery, I think, I can't remember if they gave me Percocets or Vicodins. I can't remember what it was. But I do remember I sold it to my friend Jeff, who was the local drug dealer at the pool hall.

He was this guy. We all have that friend. He looked like he was out of a Beavis and Butthead cartoon. Okay. Maximum acetaminophen. So this is the Tylenol in numerous brands and products, including acetaminophen, now the most common cause of acute liver failure in the United States. Oh my gosh.

So maximal acetaminophen daily doses. For adults, it's four grams a day. And for children, it's 75 milligrams per kilogram a day, which is not a lot. That is not a lot. I'm so glad we're bringing this up. Yeah. Toxic dose, 10 grams or 200 milligrams per kilogram as a single ingestion over a 24-hour period or 6 grams or 150 milligrams per kilogram per 24-hour period for two days.

200 milligrams per kilogram in healthy children 1 to 6 years of age. So it can fucking kill you. Yeah. Okay. And again, read that. The most common cause of acute liver failure in the United States. Would that be overdose? Overdose.

Yeah. Yeah. Overdose. Well, that is something I think that needed to be said today. Yeah. People need to know. It's not good for you. By the way, non-steroidal anti-inflammatories

isn't so fucking terrific for you either like ibuprofen and stuff like that yeah my friend cam what about like midol and pamperin and all of those stuff um i don't know if those are ibuprofen are those ibuprofen as well i don't know i feel like they're in that family maybe those are for girls so meanwhile they're a fucking house full of them you should probably know that um no but like i started after you know after all of this vaccine and like you know all this stuff i've been like okay do i really need that do i really need that tylenol or is this just kind of something where i could drink a little bit more water and feel better um do i really like because i at the beginning of the whole COVID thing,

I would get like a headache and I'd be like, I have it. It's done. It's over. And now it's like, I have a headache, you know, drink more water or I'm not feeling good. And maybe it's, you know, what did I eat yesterday? You know, it's, it's, it's come down to that. I think the older I get, the more I'm like, if I can get food hangovers now, you know, like if you put something. Sugar. Yeah. I'll get a food hangover with a big piece of cake. Yeah. You love cake. I love cake.

You do? What kind? Oh, yeah. Well, my favorite dessert is not really cake. It's tiramisu, but it's kind of like cake. Tiramisu is basically cake, right? Oh, it's tiramisu that. It's got the little angel cookies.

It's like. Yeah. That's the Italian in me. Yeah. Oh, Italian. Mostly. I love tiramisu. I love tiramisu. Yeah.

That's my favorite. But I like a chocolate cake, too. Really? Oh, fuck up a chocolate cake. A good juicy one? I mean, yeah. A good moist chocolate cake? I'm getting excited.

Yeah, I know. Now you've got me thinking. A warm chocolate cake with a scoop of vanilla ice cream. Oh, come on. So is it just sugar? You like your cheat meals like sugar? Yeah. Yeah.

Pasta is my cheat meal. Oh, yeah. For food, it's pasta for sure. 100%. What about chicken fried steak and eggs? I'll eat that too. That is one of my favorite. That's pretty damn good.

Yeah. They probably have a good place here in Texas. Oh, guaranteed. They have chicken fried lobster out here. They chicken fry everything out here. Oh, I don't know about that. It's fucking good. No.

Shout out to Three Forks. There's a Three Forks steakhouse that has chicken fried lobster as an appetizer. It's slamming. I feel like that takes away from everything. Okay, I'll trust you. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. You should have Dana White do that on his-

Yeah, his Fuck It Fridays. Yeah, his Fuck It Fridays. I told him, I was like, those are my favorite shows. Those are great. I don't even look at the fights anymore. I'm like, what is he having on a Friday? Have you seen when Dean Thomas does a parody of it? He puts a fake bald wig on and puts a shirt on that's way too small so you can see his stomach. Dean's hilarious. No, I haven't seen that. He's really funny. That's great. I'm actually mad that Dana White does that because I'm

like, damn, that's such a good idea. I want to do Fuck It Fridays now. It's a great move. He's an interesting guy, Dana, because he doesn't have to do anything. Look at Dean. Oh my God. That's amazing. Give me some money.

I'm rich, motherfucker. Go from the beginning. Go from the beginning so we can hear what he says. What's up, everybody? Dean White here, live at the UFC headquarters. Today is Sucking Saturday.

Sucking Saturday. He calls himself Dino White. I'm rich, motherfucker. I can do what the fuck I want. Today, we're going to be making rice kushby sloppy joes. Look how he has his shirt too short. We call them sloppy hoes. First, we got to make the sloppy hoes.

Oh, no. Spam. We got to mix it in with our sauce. Oh, no. Andam. We got to mix it in with our sauce. Oh, no. And mix it up real good. Now you got to add the sloppy hoes. Get out. What is Rice Krispies and Spam?

Oh, my God. That looks disgusting. Now it's time to try it. I got to follow this guy. Oh, my God. he's eating it. Thumbs up! Thumbs up! That's a great...

He really studied dynamite when he did that. Thumbs up, doesn't suck. I just love how he has this shirt that's too short. His midriff is hanging out. And the bald cap. Suck it, Saturday. Oh my gosh.

That was too cute. What is his name? Dean Thomas. Dean Thomas. Dean is a coach at ATT, and he used to fight for the UFC. And he comes in in big fights. He'll be the guy that we go to occasionally about strategy. We'll ask him a question, and he'll say what year he has to do this and this and that

and what Glover's doing great is this and when this comes up the reason why it's getting through is because of that give me some more volume refresh this refresh this that little shirt he's a fun dude

why is the UFC headquartered Oh my God, that little shirt. He's a fun dude. Another edition of Suck It Saturday. Here's why we're the UFC headquarters. Today, we're making a dish from the Great Depression back in 1999 when me, Lorenzo, and Frank bought the UFC. You're welcome, mother****er. I got my chef, your eight-ass Gordon Ramsey, to help me out. First, you start with one pork chop. Chef. Now we gotta fry it up.

Now smother it in the tongue. Oh no. Oh no. Now it's time to try it. We call this a nut chop. Oh, he eats it. Not bad. oh he eats it not bad that might be the best thing we've ever done here oh my god that's such a good impression

i just love the commitment to the same kind of shirt every day with the midriff showing i feel like i feel like that's not a bad ha bad Halloween costume if you're looking for one. That's a great one. Right? Be Dean as Dana for Suck It Saturday. And just have a t-shirt that says Suck It Saturday. That's amazing. That's a great Halloween costume.

Wait, you just told everybody. You can cut that out. No, no, put that out there. But that would be, I want everybody to wear it. No, there's going to be people being you being him. But look, he's got another one. But I just think that if you showed up at a party with a Suck It Saturday shirt on, with a bald cap and a shirt that's too small,

only the deep, deep insiders would be like, dude, that's a costume. I'm happy to be a part of that group now because I'm going to follow him on Instagram. Dean's awesome. I love that dude. He's been on here before too. Dana, he was actually one of the people, randomly enough, that reached out to me when I got canceled. And sent me a text message. He's like, you have to get a hold of Ben Shapiro.

And this is coming from the last time me and Dana spoke. It was over a controversy of me coming back, having a fight. So it was a surprise text. And he was like, hey, it was right when I was canceled. And he was like, Gina, you have to get a hold of Ben Shapiro. He's looking for you. You got to, you know, and Dana was very instrumental and like, you know, I was like, wow, this is so,

it's so random the people that come out of the woodwork when you're like completely tossed to the side and then like you really get to see people for who they are, I think. And he was very encouraging. There's a lot of people that cower when the mob comes after someone. Like the majority. What the hell? And they also take the side of the mob.

Even people that you thought were your friends. Oh, so that happened to you as well? Not really. Okay, you can't really. It happened to you as well? Not really Okay, you don't You can't relate It's seen happen to other people No, look, my friends are my friends I vet my friends Like, if you're my friend, that means I really fucking know you

I just don't have that many Yeah, it's hard to find that many I don't really, like, hang out in Hollywood all the time, you know I'm not doing the schmoozing, you know Well, listen, if I was an actor and if i was in hollywood i would have probably zero friends i'd have like chris pratt would be my only friend yeah has he been on here no he hasn't but he will be i'm sure yeah i love that guy i'm friends with him i'm friend friends with him good good he's like a good one he's great yeah he's my example him and scott eastwood

when people want to talk shit about actors i'm'm like, let me tell you something. Scott Eastwood is the normalest motherfucker. His dad is one of the greatest movie stars of all time. He's an iconic figure. And Scott couldn't be more normal. He'd be like a cousin. Like, this is my cousin Scott. Like, oh, hey, what's up? He's in San Diego, right?

Like, you'd never think. He's here now. Oh, he is? He lives on here. He lives in Austin. Because he was always working out at, this is going to total, I'm totally name dropping my my friend artim at the boxing works oh yeah okay yeah yeah he's he'll appreciate that this will be all over in instagram but he's this precious russian guy who's just like he's a bad motherfucker he's amazing he was a muay thai fighter yeah

seeing him fight was so cool yeah he was he was nasty. I saw him fight live. Oh, you did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. In L.A. He's got that really sick kind of thing in you that I had a little bit. It's just like when you get hit hard, then you just see red. And he had it more probably because he was just mean when he fought. He was a bad motherfucker.

Sean Yarbrough was like that. Sean Yarbrough, that's another good friend of mine. I remember when Artem fought Joe Schilling. Yeah. At the big match in LA. Yeah, yeah. They're friends now. Yeah.

Joe Schilling's awesome. He's my fucking friend. I love how much he doesn't care. He's the man. It's like, he doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't. He put a video up of him

knocking out a guy in a bar. Guy was an asshole in a bar. The guy like bowed up on him and he flatlined him in like two seconds. See, the problem is if I would have done that, I would have been in prison for five years because I just get in trouble like that. Yeah, you say that. But if it was some mouthy bitch, some Karen. I would be in prison.

Look, I am beep bopping, booping people and losing jobs. Okay, so like the second I get real serious About something If you were at a bar and there's a video Of you trying to walk Excuse me and you're walking and some Bitch gets in your face Fuck you you fucking whore And you just crack her with an elbow And flatline her people would think it was amazing

Yeah but then I'd be in prison But it's a little different when girls beat up girls Right? Yeah I don't know. I used to get in fights. I could never go out in Las Vegas when I was little without getting in a fight every weekend. Really? When you were little? I think that's why I don't like to hang out very much. How old were you?

You were like four or five? Yeah, I was like, rah. When you say little, when I think of little, I think of little kids. I'm thinking like around 17, 18, 19. I used to get in fights a lot. Were you training then? No, I wasn't training until I was, you know, this. I'm sure I did get into a couple of fights after I started training, but they had started to like go away.

So you're getting in like unskillful training fights? No, like before. Yeah, before it wasn't with any training. I would just get like. Just wild. Yeah, like for some reason I'd go into a bar when I was like, you know, you know, in Vegas, actually, you know, this had to be up until 21. So I, when did I start training? I started training when I was 21. I met Kevin when I was 19. That's where I'm going wrong. Cause we got in a bunch of fights when we were younger. Um, we would get jumped at parties. It

was like, it was all the time in Vegas. I don't know how anybody's ever escaped getting punched or in a fight. Like we could not escape it. Is Vegas a wild place to grow up? I think it was then, and I think more people train now, so it's like, you know, a little bit more. A little more risky? Yeah. But when we were growing up, it was like, oh, man. Yeah, you pick a fight with a rando today, good luck.

I don't pick a fight. No, I know you wouldn't. Yeah. But you can fight. But I'm saying, if you're a person and you pick a fight with some rando, like, you might get fucked up. You might run into the wrong dude. Yeah, everybody trains now.

Get your legs broken. Yeah. But then it wasn't like that. So we would go out and I'd just be sitting there doing nothing. And some, it's always like the meanest, baddest bitch in the room would come up and be like, you know, you're looking at my boyfriend? And I'd be like, you have a boyfriend? Like, I don't think so. I'm like, where is he?

And then like next cut to in the parking lot, you know, like wearing full white one time I was wearing a white outfit and I like got in this massive fight and I mounted her and did all of that. And, you know, didn't even know what that was at the time. And then I come back in, my hair is a fro and and I've got all of this asphalt down my nice white clothes. I don't know why it would always end up like that. Me and Kevin jumped at a house party. So it probably wasn't a big surprise to some people that you went on to become an MMA fighter. Not my family.

My family just tried to make it not happen. fighter? Not my family. My family just tried to make it not happen. My family. So my family. So they're, um, you know, they're, they're kind of well known in Nevada. Um, they would, when I had my first professional fight in MMA, um, against Leticia Pistova, she didn't have any business being in there, but they didn't know that. Um, it was the first sanctioned fight in Las Vegas for women. And I had my Papa Don and my dad, who used to be on the Athletic Commission back then. His Papa Don? Is that like your grandpa? Yeah, my grandfather.

My dad's dad. And then my dad, who used to be on the Athletic Commission during when Tyson had his ear bitten off. He bit off Holyfield's ear. Yeah. Or, yeah, sorry, backwards. So they called the Athletic Commission and they said, don't you dare let, both of them did, don't you dare let her fight. And so all of the athletic commission guys, they're like, well, we can't stop her from doing this, you know, guys. And so all of them for the rest of my fight career would come up and be like, hey, remember when we stood up against your family and we told them?

And eventually my dad did come around. How many fights did you have? I had a total of, I think, 24. 12-1-1. Do my math for me. 12-1-1 in Muay Thai and 7-1 in MMA. When do you think they accepted it? Like how many fights did you have to have before they were

on board? I think they saw the difference in my life. You know, I lost 30 pounds immediately. I wasn't partying. I was dedicated. I was traveling. We went to Thailand a couple of times. It just, I think after they saw the positive impact that it had on my life, then they were like, Oh, this is way better than her faking going to college. And, um, so I think that's when, you know, it's really hard and I'm sure, you know, it's really hard to watch people that you love fight, you know, like I turned into a complete nut case when I see, I'm so glad Kevin doesn't fight anymore. Um, it made, uh, Cowboy Cerrone was in my movie recently, um, Terror on the Prairie, when I see him. It's hard. I'm so glad Kevin doesn't fight anymore.

Cowboy Cerrone was in my movie recently, Terror on the Prairie, and it was going to be hard to watch him fight because you just care so much. And it's hard to watch people you love fight. So it was really hard. My mom would take a Xanax, and then she gave, one time she gave Kevin a Xanax and then she gave him another one. She's going to kill me for telling you this. By the end, you just see Kevin was barely able to hold up his head.

And I was like, yay, I won. This is so much fun. That's hilarious. Yeah. It's hard to watch people you care about get hit. Is it? Aren't you? No. You're not hot? No. Well, I was in the watch people you care about get hit. Is it? Aren't you? No.

You're not hot? No. Well, I was in the cold plunge before I got here. Oh, okay. I need to do that. I do the cold plunge every day. Yeah. We have one here if you want to do it.

Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Since I'm going to go from this nice poncho to taking off. Then you're going to want the poncho back. Can I have it? I'll have some whiskey if it's okay with you.

Yeah, for sure. I heard that was the kind of thing. Yeah, have it? I'll have some whiskey if it's okay with you. Yeah, for sure. I heard that was the kind of thing. Yeah, we do that. We have a little booze. Thank you. What kind is this? Cheers. Cheers.

Thanks. Thanks. This is Buffalo Trace real American whiskey that's nice it's real shit from 1776 or 1773 rather oh my god

you just got hardcore about your whiskey just now yeah they're older than the country this country this company Buffalo Trace really

yeah wow older than the United States how about that that's crazy yeah the longest continually operating distillery in the United States.

That's very cool. Yeah. Very cool. Thank you very much. I got a fucking buffalo on the bottle. How do you not love them? So are you enjoying your move? Are you glad?

I love it here. Really? Austin? Yeah. Yeah. This is where I assume my final form. You're staying here for i love it here yeah like i love it here like immediately like immediately i was like this is better it's like i just didn't the whole the problem with comedy like stand-up comedy being connected

to hollywood is there's a there's a bunch of problems like one of the problems is the same thing that you experienced is that there's a lot of cowards in that business and that's been heartbreaking to see sad yeah they have to be cowards to exist in that system it's like very difficult to stand up for what you actually believe and go against the grain because you won't get work and you thought thought, I was thinking, you know, I was thinking that the, you know, like the Babylon Bee became super popular. And why, why did they, because they weren't afraid to make jokes about like the stuff that was happening. And I feel like you would get canceled if you didn't, you know, if you even toyed around with making a joke as a comedian during the last

two and a half years. Sort of of but not when you go to the clubs they fucking laugh hard people people love the fact that comics are still doing real comedy but it was harder and harder to do in la because there were so many people that were just like mediocre comedians that were attacking good comics for telling daring jokes and pretending that jokes were in fact statements that you would make like on an affidavit or something like pretending these people aren't just joking around. And then it became, you know, this, this weird time where it's, it's like people were digging

their heels in the sand and they were dividing themselves from other people and attacking other comics and attack like it's like this weird thing infected every every avenue of like being able to um have freedom of thought which comics are like i feel like they're the freest thinkers ever right i feel like comedians are like that avenue of like, hey, let's break free and like think about things differently and joke about it. And to not see those people stand up and, you know, kind of push against the cancel culture and push against the norm was really heartbreaking. And as well as like rappers, like where was our rappers and where was our artists, our musicians at this time? I feel like they all went quiet. A lot of people got scared.

They got scared, first of all, because their livelihood was taken away. They weren't allowed to work anymore. Right. So they got scared about that. And then they wanted to get it back. So there seemed to be a clear path to get it back, get everyone vaccinated. We go back to work. So there was like this path that everybody thought they were supposed to be on, you know.

And and also it's like it takes a lot of time to be actually informed yeah to really be informed about what's going on like when i start telling people about the history of the pharmaceutical companies and judgments against them and when you find out that they knew that certain drugs are going to have adverse reactions but they were going to be very profitable so they released them anyway and then they were fined billions of dollars and killed thousands and thousands of people directly Because of their decisions people like what and then you show them the stories and the articles like this is real How do I not know about this because you watch fucking CNN and they're not gonna tell you right? They're not gonna. They're not gonna. Let you know that this is an important part of the history of medical

science in this country and There's a lot of people during that time that just wanted to go back to work and they wanted to do the right thing. They wanted to be shown as being a person who did the right thing. They wanted to take photos with them with a bandaid on their arm. Look at me. I have a bandaid on my arm. I'm a good person.

I should have just put a bandaid over their mouth. Yeah, right. They should have. Well, they did that for a while too. Remember No hate? Remember that? They asked me to do that. They wanted me to be a part of their campaign. I go, hey, I go, I will say no hate with my mouth. I don't want to cover my mouth with duct tape. This is not a smart move and write no hate on my face. The fuck are we doing? Yeah. And I think it's, well, hopefully the virtue signaling has had its day. We're all exhausted over it.

It has, but it hasn't. It's going to come in waves. It's going to be like everything else. It's going to be like COVID. We're just going to stock up on as much whiskey as possible and be on a ranch in Montana is what I'm going to do. Montana is where I want to go. I love Montana. I love it. Did you go there to film that movie?

So this is what happened. This is actually crazy. So I was like, I can't stay in California anymore. Basically, I think what you did too, you're just like done, right, with California. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. So I was just done.

I was like, I can't. I feel claustrophobic there. So I lived in Hermosa Beach. It was an amazing place. But as soon as my cancellation happened, I mean, I had reporters showing up. I had drones looking into my place because it looked out onto the ocean. And there was drones popping up. There was people.

I didn't live in a gated community. And so there was people in vans and there was people following me to places. And I was just very exposed, which was very dangerous of Disney to have made the comment they did. What did they say? They said, basically, I mean, we could look it up. We do not support Gina. We're not going to work with her anymore based off of her something about cultural and religious differences or something like that. Basically calling me a racist and that I'm not accepting of other people's, you know, lifestyles.

That doesn't have anything to do with what you said. No. That's what's so crazy. You literally were saying the opposite. I was literally trying to— You were trying to unite people. Yes, I was. Yeah.

I was trying to say neighbors don't hate neighbors. And, yeah, it didn't really come off come off you know like i thought it would was and i'll be more sensitive to that in the future of course but like i thought it was something that everybody could get on board with but they had a you know they had a target on me they decided that you were right wing yeah you know they decided you were a trump supporter when in reality reality it's like i just am like open-minded being new to the political spectrum. I don't know even how, I don't know how conservative I really am. You know, I don't know how. Well, I bet you're pretty socially liberal. Yeah. I don't know

how Republican I am. I don't even know what those really mean. And I don't really like labels. I just know that a certain people seem to be making more sense and more common sense, and other people just seem to be spewing out a lot of hate. And for this moment in time, I will definitely be voting a certain way because these people are making sense. The second those people decide that they want a power trip and not make any sense, I promise you I'll be the first one that says this doesn't make any sense. And I feel like that makes me somewhere in the middle. Yeah, I think that's most people. Yeah. And so I had all these really scary incidences with like stalkers.

And like as soon as I got canceled, I lost all my hearing. Like my hearing just went away. What? Yeah, I don't know. Just from stress? Apparently that's not a thing um must be a thing it had to have been because as soon as it happened i had earmuffs on me um and so i was 90 of your hearing yeah like 95 i couldn't hear anything and kevin kevin would be like he was i had a, my body reacted, I do feel.

So I had to have Kevin make me an ear doctor, you know, like get me in as soon as possible. Yeah, and that was in five days. So I had to stay being canceled. I couldn't talk to anybody on the phone. I just barely got Ben Shapiro on the phone that night, but I was still like kind of like, what? You know, like trying to hear everything he says and everything past that had to be over text message and I couldn't talk to my family um and so we got into the ear doctor and it's like a massive waiting room and I'm like can't hear myself say my name you know so I'm just like sliding over and I don't want to say my name because I'm trending on Twitter and I'm like just a packed room of people on Twitter I don't want to say my name because I'm trending on Twitter so I was like Gina Carano I imagine I was like

really she's like what I was like the name's on here I can't hear myself say my name can you just look at and she's like oh and I could see her say Gina Carano oh Jesus Christ fuck me this is bad and she's like we don't have you and I And I'm trying to get on a plane by Friday. She's like, we don't have you in the system until next month. And I was like, oh, my God. I've got paparazzi chasing me around the freaking parking lot waiting for me downstairs. And so I was crying and I was like texting my manager. I'm like, please just get me into a specialist.

I need to get to, you know, I obviously need to get this interview with Ben Shapiro over and fly to, you know, you can't fly when your ears are like that. And so I went, I like, first of all, I about faced the paparazzi in the parking lot. I was so mad. I'm lucky I didn't like get hurt, but I got behind them and I was taking pictures of them like a psychopath.

And I was like, hmm. And then like they like ran off that way and i like lost them because they had to speed off that way and i i went to and so i went to a quick care and i'm sitting there just crying in the you know parking lot like this is awful like what if this is permanent by the sixth day of this you feel like this might be permanent and you're never gonna hear again it's six days yeah how long did it ultimately last um i went into the quick care so i've got an appointment with the specialist i went into the quick care. So I've got an appointment with the specialist. I went into the quick care, and there was a sweet little gay guy who was just like,

oh, honey. And I could see all the, oh, honey, it's OK. That's what he looked like. And I was like, is this permanent? And he's like, you just got a little wax in there. And I'm like, wax? He's like, yeah. You'll be fine. That's like quiet it was to me you know and I was like oh my gosh I can be normal today and they just went in and

flushed it out and it was like hearing never felt so strong in my life and it was hurting my ears because everything I could hear that was an urgent care yeah they did that they just cleaned your ear they just take that like you, the teardrop thing. All that pshh, pshh. Yeah, they have to put something in there. And so I was like, oh my gosh, how ridiculous. I've been stressed out for six days over wax. So you just grew extra wax when you got stressed out?

I don't know. I had a surgery done when I was really little because I think there's like the tubes in your ears or something like that. I don't know. So my ears, it's really funny. My ears, my mouth, my nose and my ear holes, it's going to sound weird, are really tiny. Yeah. And so like when I eat like sushi, I have to bite it in half.

Because of the wasabi? No, because the freaking mass of, they're huge. Oh, so your mouth hole is too small. Yeah. When I had mouth guards made for me, they said I'd have to do the child one. Oh, really? Yeah. And then when I cry,

it doesn't come out my nose holes. This is such a weird... When you cry? Yeah, when I cry... Like snot doesn't come out your nose hole? Yeah, so it goes back down into my throat. Oh, so you start like... Yeah, when I cry. Like snot doesn't come out of your nose? Yeah, so it goes back down into my throat. Oh, so you start like. Yeah, so I'd choke when I. The worst.

I can't cry too hard or else it'll like build up in my throat and I'm like choking and spitting out. That's hilarious. Yeah, I don't know. Did you ever have to get your nose done after fighting? No. Like so you could breathe again? No. Actually, no.

I'm still. I got in a fight at a hotel once and I got head butted right here. I don't know if you can see it's a little. Pre-fight career or post-fight career? That was probably right when I had started training career when I was 21. You got head butted? Yeah. It's a risky move.

Yeah. Well, there was just heads flying everywhere and I was at a hotel. It's at the Peppermint Hotel in reno gina you live a wild ass life i know you seem so calm i can't imagine you getting so many street fights i know i'm just i don't know i i never picked one i don't pick fights i'm not good at that but i'm not afraid to obviously fight you know people don't believe that uh i i when i tell people in the industry who don't know who i am they're like no you didn't used to do that and I'm like yeah google me bitch kind of a big deal Debra

it does feel like a lifetime ago I miss it when you were thinking about coming back I remember um there was that conversation with you well there was a potential comeback fight with Ronda. Yeah. How serious was that? It was very serious. What stopped it from happening? So, you know how, like, you know, I went, I'm living in L.A. I used to train out of Randy Couture's in Vegas.

And I had my whole group there, right? I had Scott Berry, Jiu-Jitsu. I don't know where he went. I think he's, like, disappeared into the woods or something. Remember? On the mat. Yeah. Yeah.

He used to own that store in Las Vegas. Yeah. Him and his brother. I don't know where he is. He's like a mountain man now. Chris Benchop Javazzi. He's a boxing coach. Used to be an LV boxing coach.

Still, you'll see him. Yeah. He's pretty great. So I had my whole team in Vegas. So when Randy or when Dana White and Lorenzo, they invited me out finally, like, you know, this had to have been like five years ago. They said, hey, we'd like to offer you like, you know, a million dollar fight with Rhonda. And I was like, damn, what took you guys so long? What I had told Dana and Lorenzo at that time was, I don't have a team.

I don't even have an idea of a team. I don't have a gym. I don't think me and Kevin were together at that time. I didn't have any connection into where I would do this fight camp. And I knew with the weight and everything, it was going to take me a good, it would take me three months to get the weight stabilized and then it would take me four months to actually be in, like, fight camp.

You know what I mean? Just to get back into it. I hadn't fought at that time in almost, like, a decade. So I just asked Dana if he could just please keep it quiet. You know, just don't bring up my name. You know, give me the time to, a six-month time. And I, of course. That's reasonable.

Yeah. It's not even reasonable. You really need like a year, right? Well, yeah, but I was, you know, I felt like I could at that moment. I felt like six months. Well, Dana, you know Dana. He was like, and I've got Gina Crono and it's gonna be against Ron Rousey and he started pumping it out on the you know Twitter and he pumped it out in the interviews

and I was like whoa whoa like calm down like first of all I don't even know who I'm gonna train with so now you've made it harder for me to walk into a gym and just get comfortable with people because now everybody knows I'm looking for a team I'm looking for something right and it's going to be a very high profile yeah and so now it made everything so much more difficult and um you know like that's where we didn't get along for a second I was like dude like right like quiet down like if you just quiet down I can find a team and I can get organized and then he said something pretty aggressive over text messages I'm'm sure you know he does that. And I was just like, okay, I'm not going to do that. It was very simple for me.

That was going to be something for me. And I was excited to be back in that world. And I was excited to do something like that. I respect Rhonda. And I thought that was exciting. But after, like, you just can't, like, go back into that world and feel instantly disrespected on so many levels. So I was like, I'm cool, I'm going to go.

And then I think another movie came up, and I was like, sweet, I'll just go do this movie then. You know, like, I'm not going to, I don't need to be disrespected, you know. So that's how that story went. You didn't have any inclination to have another fight? You just wanted to have the Ronda Rousey fight? I mean, i think when you fight you are constantly fighting i have a bag in my you know downstairs in my garage like i

i'm you know on the treadmill and constantly fighting people in my head and having a comeback fight all the time how old are you now i'm 40 so do you think you would still do it i mean i still can't even say that I wouldn't Because you know Rhonda said That you're the one I know and honestly I feel like she's the one as well If I wanted to you know Let's go ladies

Let's fucking go Get me a dietician because I have to Do that or chop off in my entire leg I'm sure there's people She said she'd fight you at 205 I know you know me or you don't know me but i would not i it would be an equal weighted you know oh i'm sure i know it would be professional i'm not i have no interest in being like uh if you wanted to do it though now it's like last call yeah and you know what i when when she said

that i'm like you know i'm so focused on um my dreams in in movie making but I also I guess you just never you never lose that want to do it and you and for me I I've been looking for something to train for to get my body back and and where I want it to be and so there's just been with this little kind of this little thing on my shoulders like well you could you could train and you could get yourself where you want to be and use that as your focus for all of that. Where are you living now? I'm not going to say because of stalkers.

But there's a gym? No, not where I'm at right now. But I'm very mobile right now. So when I moved out of Hermosa Beach, I'm trying to get away from all the madness, me and Kevin moved into an RV. Oh, really? Yeah, do you know anything about RVs? A little bit. So we got a new car, used the money from the house that we got

and bought an RV. And then we went across thinking that we were going to go shoot this movie called White Knuckle in Nashville. Well, once I got to Nashville, they were like, are you willing to play by the SAG rules and all of this? And they could mandate it. So I was like, what does that mean? And they said, basically, if SAG mandated the vaccines while we were shooting white knuckle, then anybody who wasn't vaccinated would have to get vaccinated. And are you comfortable with that? And I said, no, i'm not comfortable with that um that and that also means that we were probably only going to hire only vaccinated people and i thought that was like wait i thought i just got out of california and so then i was like well

shit here we go you know like i was like what's the next option and is there another option i'm living in an rv at the moment and they were like um yeah the next option is we instead go with the serial killer movie. We'll put that to the side while the world kind of figures itself out. And we'll go with a non-union Western, which ended up being Terror on the Prairie. And this is the Daily Wire movie. Yeah. So that's what ended me up in an RV. Now I'm kind of going in between places because I fell in love with Montana and I really want to end up there. But, you know, I'm there in the winter. Yeah. Well, up and yeah, through November.

down for that the boys from the men yeah or the girls from the women yeah actually like the women up there are so freaking like okay i have to say capable in a very attractive way like these women are still so like um beautifully like femme they're everything that i would think a woman should be like they're feminine but they'll get on their horse they'll go on a camping trip they'll go like like hunting they'll make their own stuff they barter in between neighbors and i'm like i think that see that's i but the beholder i think that's really sexy so um i want to be a montana woman but i also want to direct and i also want to give people like cowboy serrani or like people um that i can see have that magical something, and I want to continue making art and movies. So this movie, Terror on the Prairie, this Daily Wire movie, is this going – has it been released yet? Yes.

It's on the website? Yes. So you were kind of a big deal about that. They're like, we're going to have the movie out once, you know, I come on, once Cowboy fights, which didn't happen. Which didn't happen. It'd be crazy. Two times in a row. I know.

Dana White's just like, it's over. It's done. We're not going to even try anymore. I don't know why they don't try one more time. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Cowboy's going to do what he's going to do. But I think he really is interested in love with movie making right now.

Well, there's something about him. I mean, I watched some clips clips he's so authentic right like and that comes across like his face is a the face of a man who's lived a hard scrabble life i mean he's been fighting for a long fucking time you can see it in his nose he's in it there's like a character in his eyes that i think would translate fantastic and that's what i saw so look at that i mean he's so like not a great picture of me but great of him well i always get the awful ones he is so um i love that dude i know he is so authentic and so they had it like you know when because I'm a producer on this movie, they had all of the auditions of all the guys come in, and, you know,

and, like, we're watching all their tapes. And I feel like Hollywood kind of gets a little too rehearsed, which is uninteresting. You know, somebody's an actor. And so I just felt like, well, we're doing this Western. I've got a guy who I think would pop on film. And it was a really big, like, I had to fight for him to get this role. And they were like, well, we love his look and we love his reach,

but, like, how is he going to be on film? And I was like, I believe in him. I believe he's going to kill it. And sure enough, you know, he's such a shit, too. Like, he comes to set and he just gives you, like, the hardest time. And it's all directed at me, too. Like, he talks so much shit to me on this. I mean, the outtake's got to be so funny.

But he's brilliant. Like he's so vulnerable. Yeah. Just how he fights, you know, like he's a vulnerable person. You never know how it's going to go sometimes, you know, with Cowboy. What emotion he's going to be in. With acting, he was just, one time I came to set and he was all just sitting down and glaring at me, and I'm like, what cowboy?

And he's like, nothing. And I'm like, oh, you think we're doing this scene where we're actually fighting or in a fight, in a couple's fight. I was like, that's not the scene. The scene is me and you actually getting along this time. And he was like, oh, we are? And I'm like, yeah, we get along in this scene. And all of a sudden he turns into this loving guy.

And I'm like, oh, God. His method. His method. He doesn't know this, but he is a little bit method. Oh, that's hilarious. But he's brilliant. He's really good on film. And I think that I want to do that more with people.

Is this movie going to be theatrically released? It's on the Daily Wire. Only on the Daily Wire? Yeah. What about, like, is it going to be on any of the streaming platforms or anything like that? No, what the Daily Wire is trying to do is they're trying to draw as many eyeballs to their platform. The more subscriptions they get based off of some of the stuff, the more they'll do it more. And so this is, you know.

they get based off of some of the stuff, the more they'll do it more. And so this is, you know... It's very interesting because what they're doing is they're creating a right-wing alternative, you know, to they're doing stand-up comedy, they're doing podcasts, they're doing all these different things, you know. Yeah. And Ben's a pretty fucking brilliant guy.

He's amazing, yeah. It's really interesting, like, as a business model, like, there is a market for that. People are tired of being spoon-fed one ideology. And the thing is, if you look at our movie, it's not political. Yeah. It's just a movie. It tried to be as, you know, just a genuine Western. It really tries to be just what it is, a Western.

It really tries to be just what it is, a Western. What is it like doing a film where it's going to be released in this one part of the world? Because it's like that movie is not likely going to get seen by people that are on the left. It's very unusual in that. Even though it's not a political movie, it's in kind of a political category because it's on the Daily Wire. I think, once again, I think i'm at the beginning of something just with the female fighting i was at the beginning of something and people didn't take it seriously and then all of a sudden we're creeping up and getting a you know all of a sudden now look at female fighting right so that is a similar feeling that i have

here and um you know for me doing art is just you know you know doing movies is just what i want to do so it's cool it's cool that it's a start of a big movement and hopefully that will translate to making more people be able to have jobs actors and um it just i don't think a little competition hurts anyone no i mean look at the movie's good i mean it's not bad for anybody oh did you watch it i see no i haven't seen it that's why i asked you if it was good. I mean, it's not bad for anybody. Oh, did you watch it? No, I haven't seen it. That's why I asked you if it was out. Oh, right, right.

Yeah, it's out. Is it a thing where you feel like it's not like it's going to pigeonhole you into only doing movies for, like, right-wing people? No, I don't think so. I think I'm really bad at standing in boxes anyways obviously yeah so I'm just gonna kind of my thing is art I just want to do art I want to make movies I want to direct produce I want to you know that's my love that's my fight right now and so um however that comes about I have gotten a bunch of offers, you know, to be in some films, but I just don't have the energy to do things that I'm not passionate about, that I don't believe in, like, the, you know, I don't believe in the story.

I don't believe, doing independent movies or any movie or any show takes so much work and so much out of you. You have to be ready to sit down with that job for for you know a year and a half two years and i can't um i just can't give myself and like exhaust myself like that unless i'm like obsessed with it and once i'm obsessed with it then you know it'll be amazing so has this like slowed down the offers that you're getting the being canceled out of the mandalorian well as soon as i got canceled as as soon as Disney put out that, I feel like that very awful statement, that's like defamation, if anything. That same day, my UTA, my agency, dropped me.

Whoa. Yeah, dropped me. And my 10-year-long lawyers dropped me because now no money is going to be. Yeah, I got canceled almost. I think it's one of the worst cancellations in Hollywood history, which is what everybody saw. I lost. That is wild that your agency dropped you for that.

Because this is not like what you said. If you look at what you actually said and you show it, it's not that bad. Well, and also my agents are like you know they've got james franco they didn't ever drop you know they've got you know these people have got like they made such a example they try to make an example out of me and they just made an example out of themselves like why did they come down so hard on me i've got um toys you know these little like mandalorian toys they canceled. They ripped them off the shelves. They toy companies all for what?

Because you represented Trump. I wasn't even representing Trump. I was representing and I hate I hate what I didn't like about that is like I'm representing being able to vote and have that be OK. You know, I know that's what you represent personally. Yeah. But what you represent to them was Trump. i know that's what you represent personally yeah but what you represent to them was trump well that's their problem but it's also they're sending a signal by getting rid of you to everybody else that doesn't support the ideology yeah like there's a very strong left

wing progressive ideology that's captured hollywood and they just ended up showing their cards but do you know of anybody i mean chris prattatt, but other than him, who's successful that's not on board with all that shit? I mean, a lot of people now come up to me. There's not actually anybody that didn't see what happened to me and comes up to me in person in this business and out that has been like, yeah, that was cool.

They just say, man, you got railroaded and we're really sorry. Like, that sucks. Well, you certainly did get railroaded but what i'm saying is like there's there's not a lot of political diversity in hollywood there is but they're staying very quiet yeah but that doesn't you know that's not real then yeah like it's what they think of as the the political ideology that's acceptable in hollywood it's like hardcore left has it always been like this? Cause I never,

I never knew that it was an okay to, I thought once you say that you vote, then I've, I mean, I've been seeing, um, the other, I see, I've been seeing the left like rage against this president, the president Trump, like death threats and all of this crazy, aggressive stuff, you know, and it was completely acceptable. Yeah. And now it's like, I voted. Yeah.

It's like, get her out of here. And I'm like, it's a first time vote. And I just think that, you know, like we should all be okay with, you know, when you sign on to be an actress, you don't sign your rights away. And I feel like that's when you feel like your country is going through a really dark phase of cancel culture that's going to lead to a social credit system that's going to lead to, you know, people undeservingly losing their jobs and pressure and real bullying. Then I feel like it's okay to say something.

It should be okay to say something. It used to be okay to be a right-wing person in Hollywood. I mean, look at Bruce Willis, look at Sylvester Stallone or Arnold Schwarzenegger. Those guys were all thought of as like right wing guys. Oh, I didn't know. Yes. I mean, Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor of California as a Republican. Oh, was he?

Yeah. Gray Davis got recalled. Gray Davis got recalled. Arnold took over and he was a Republican. Oh, I thought he was a Democrat. Okay. No, no. He is now, though.

He's a massive. He's an actor. Yeah. You Oh, okay. No, no. He is now, though. He's a massive... He's an actor. Yeah. You know, that's what he is. He's like, you know, like when he was like, fuck your freedoms. Oh, yeah, that was awful.

Like that, like, come on, man. But that's a lot of old people. Yeah. Old people get goofy. They get scared. Like, they got real scared with the vaccines and the masks and all that stuff.

And that's okay, you know. Because it's more of an existential threat to them. It's a real threat to them. It's supposed to be like, 22-year-old people did not freak out too much about COVID. 22-year-old gym rats were not freaking out about COVID. Those are the least vulnerable. Who's the most vulnerable?

Older folks. So a guy like him. And I still don't think, Whoopi Goldberg came out and said something super aggressive on The View about the Holocaust and about Jewish people. And it was far more crazy aggressive than anything. I don't think it was aggressive.

It was just ignorant. It was just, that was not... Factually incorrect. Right. You know what she got? Proveably factually. She got suspended for a couple weeks. She got a slap on the hand.

I'm not trying to call myself Whoopi Goldberg or anything. I know what you're saying. The rules are not applying to both sides, basically. No, they're definitely not. And they're showing us that, and it's pretty aggressive. I think that there is room for healing. I'd hope so, or else we're just going to stay in this hateful place. So I'd hope that people would start breaking down what's really going on here and learn to have conversations.

down what's really going on here and learn to have conversations. And I do think that by Trump, you know, not having the ability to, you know, act like presidential hurt in a way that we need to see our leaders be able to embrace the conversation, embrace debating. And it's like, I mean, it's funny as hell. I think he was hilarious. But when he's sitting there like calling in the debates, he's like calling names. And it's, you know, it's like I mean it's funny as hell I think he was hilarious but when he's sitting there like calling you know in the debates he's like calling names and it's you know yeah it's not really setting an example of like how we can debate um how we all need to be talking together so that I think was a problem but I also think geez man like what the way what they what they were coming after him with like just wasn't gonna if he didn't say the aggressive stuff that he did coming after him with, like, just wasn't going to, if he didn't say the aggressive stuff that he did,

did he even have a chance in hell of surviving that? I don't know. When you get to a certain point, you know, I think there's a problem in this country when you can't have differing opinions. We have to be able to debate and have differing opinions. able to debate and have differing opinions. But someone like Trump is so polarizing that he makes having an opinion that's different, like if you have an opinion that's different than what the Democrats have or left wing people have, you're connected to Trump. Like that's the problem with Trump. The problem with Trump is not even necessarily his policy. The problem is his personality.

Right. And the way you can't have that kind of personality and be a leader you can't be a leader that battles people on twitter and calls like your ex-girlfriend horse face like that is not it's funny it's funny one of them ladies that was accusing him of having sex i well i look at stormy daniels i look at what we're going through now and i look back at some of his interviews, and I think he was a comedian. Oh, he's definitely a comedian. He's got great timing.

And I also think that what he did was he broke the back of major news media. I think that should be one of his proudest points is that he broke them over his knee, and he should be very proud of that. He definitely exposed the holes in the way they do it. That strategy that they have of just only relying on him as a bad guy and attacking him for ratings. When you saw when he got out of office and CNN's ratings dropped like 40% instantly, it's like, whoa, MSNBC, same deal. It's going to be like that for a long time.

So I just didn't think it was a – who knows? Who knows what he was dealing with, right? Do you get offers now to do mainstream movies again, or has it come back around at all? It's not really because I don't have that agency. There's been – Do you have another agency now? No, I'm kind of just rolling solo for a little bit. I'm a little bit scarred from the system.

I do think it would be nice to find somebody to kind of field some of these calls. But for right now, I'm really focused on creating and owning content myself. So things have a way of working himself out um i'm not like i'm not too worried about it i just know i want to be surrounded with better people in the future people that aren't just gonna you know jump ship the second you know yeah that was that was that made them kind of look bad more than anything so no it's terrible it's terrible yeah it's also it's there's a fucking real problem when someone can't express an opinion in a clumsy way yeah because that's part of being a human being especially about part of being a human being who's not a professional speech maker right like

it's not like you wrote all that stuff down and thought about it and vetted it and then posted it on instagram no it's just like you with your phone you're saying hey we're kind of fucked right now this used to be bad like this is what how people treat people in nazi germany yeah they're like kill her what'd you get canceled for telling neighbors not to hate each other yeah not to hate each other because of differing opinions what i also like to do um on my social media is I like to put out memes. I like to put out quotes. I like to put out things that a lot of the media would put on me what they thought I meant by it. When in reality, I mean, because they wrote that up as, you know, conservatives are, she's comparing herself, she's comparing conservatives to the Jewish people in the Holocaust. That's not how I read that. And all of them wrote up the, you know, the articles on that that said, that's what I was doing. What I

was saying is let's maybe talk to each other. And so it doesn't get to a place that's, you know. The idea that it can't get to a place like that again is so ignorant. People are so silly. This mindset that we're past the Holocaust. We're not if you're in North Korea. We're not if you're in China and you're a Uyghur Muslim. There's parts of the world right now that are under the thumb of a horrendous dictatorship. Well, look at Canada. Yeah, it's wild. Holy shit.

You can't be a trucker in Canada and you can't- Well, you can. You just have to do everything Trudeau says. Oh, man. Or you're misogynist and a racist. Oh, man. Or you're a misogynist and a racist. Oh, man. When he said that, a lot of them are racists and misogynists. Like, show me some fucking evidence.

Yeah. You're just saying that because they don't want you to be able to enforce medical mandates? Dude, the way that guy talks, okay. He creeps me out. I would do a fight in three months with that man. Have you ever seen the fucking photos of him? Him fighting? No, comparison to Castro.

Oh, yeah. The big rumor is that his mother slept with Castro. And I'm like, get out of here. And then you see pictures of him next to Castro at various stages of Castro's life and his life. And you're like, holy shit. If that's not true what a coincidence have you seen it jimmy we should definitely yeah pull up the photos comparing justin trudeau to castro i just don't like the way he talks the way he talks is like well um you know and you know

just like oh my gosh man like no he's a fake smart person that's what he, he's a fake smart person. That's what he is. He's a fake smart person. I hope it's coming to him, though. Like, there's a series of images that show him next to Castro. Yeah, that's a good one. Like, look at that. I mean, what the fuck? How much more evidence do you need? Make that a little bit bigger. Listen, if I was a betting man.

Look at that. If I was a betting man, I'm pushing all my fucking chips in on the Castro. Come on. I mean, Jesus Christ. I mean, maybe it's a coincidence. We investigated those damning rumors about Fidel Castro being Justin Trudeau's real dad. 2018, they did this. Aren't they losing the power of press there as well?

2016, oh. I mean. I feel really awful for what Canada is going through. I have a lot of friends in Canada trying to get out now. I mean, people are escaping, right? Yeah, they're trying to get out. Well, they were under a medical apartheid. I mean, that's what it is. Apartheid is like forced separation.

And they did the most. You know, and here's. So the truckers went out and it was obviously like they had bouncy jumpy gyms and they had the children out and it was obvious that they weren't going to burn down any cities. Right. And I think that that's where, um, that's where I kind of like, um, I learned something with the, the protests that were happening with the BLM riots and everything. I was like, Oh, okay. So this is why they do that this is why this happens is to put fear the fear of god in the government right um so they weren't the canadian uh government was not worried about these truckers uh burning down anything he was worried about it looking bad

and losing power and then losing elections that's what he was worried about yeah yeah so my point there is kind of like i i did i was a little bit unaware of why people would do that you know and cause such a scene and hurt so much you know of the these cities and now i understand why they do it not to say that i would ever encourage that but i understand why um because after just looking at the trucker movement and how disrespected they got it was like dude if they were a bigger threat down there, that wouldn't have been the case. You know, who knows?

I mean, Canada is very different than the United States because it's much harder to get a firearm, much harder to get a handgun. Even harder now. Yeah. Which for me is like, God, I feel safer with my guns, you know? I don't have the money for all that security that they have. I have to, you know, feel comfortable and safe. Well, that's what's crazy. It's like they have armed guards. If you really think that no one should have a gun, then maybe your guard shouldn't

have guns either. Right. Right. And by the way, criminals are still going to have the guns, but your guards won't. Right. Because that's how it goes when you change laws like that. Right. I mean, you would want to stop mass shootings. Everybody wants to stop mass shootings. You want to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people. Everybody wants to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people. But when you're doing a thing because you think that the ideology that you support wants to do that thing, whether or not it's rational or reasonable, like if you say everyone has to give their guns up, that's it. But this country's had enough. Criminals are not going to do that. And we all know that. Right. And if you say everyone has to give their guns up, that's it. But this country's had enough. Criminals are not going to do that. And we all know that. And if you say that, people get angry at you. Like, you're a part of the problem. Like, no, I'm just being honest. This is just my

honest assessment of what I think criminals do. They generally break laws. And when you have a law that says that you can't have a gun anymore, that's 100% a law they're going to break. Right. Right. Well, they're going to create a lot more criminals, let's just say, because a lot of people aren't going to give up their guns. That too. You're going to make criminals. Yeah.

Yeah. Look, it's a scary time for this country. But through scary times is how we sort things out and figure out what we should and shouldn't be doing. And so I feel like what should we do then? We should have definitely more conversations like this, but what else can we do? Because I feel like I'm always complaining. I'm never offering enough. Time will sort it out.

No. That's going to happen. Through social media and through what's going on here, but through brave people, you know, through brave people like yourself, people that have to have these conversations, maybe forced into these conversations, if Elon Musk buys Twitter, that will have a massive impact. Do you think it's happening? I think it's happening, yeah.

That will have a massive impact because— I feel like me and Elon Musk are in this really fun little meme war that he doesn't know about. You're in a meme war? No, not war. He puts out a meme. Because my name's been associated with his a lot as people who like are standing up against this you know thing so i'm

always like are there memes with you guys together no no memes like like who's got the best like meme kind of thing i'm sure like the rest of twitter thinks that they're in that kind of competition as well but we should tell you elon musk i'm in a meme battle with you. The problem with Twitter is Twitter is they without doubt have shadow banned people. They without doubt have silenced people. They without doubt have banned people for having a different ideology than they do. And they without doubt let people say horrendous, awful things to people that are conservative because they think it's OK. that are conservative because they think it's okay because they are not they're not even in the way they decide what is acceptable or unacceptable it definitely crosses ideological boundaries like it's on there's an ideological box that you can operate in where you can say

some pretty fucking horrendous shit but if you say horrendous shit to people that you think are against trans rights you could say that right if you say horrendous shit to people that you think are against trans rights you could say that right if you say horrendous shit to people that are anti-vaccine you're allowed to say that you're allowed to mock their deaths you're allowed to hope they die you're allowed to say all kinds of terrible things you're allowed to let it trend on twitter yeah and take somebody's job who i mean i worked 10 years in fighting and i worked 10 years in acting and never have had a handout. I've never compromised myself. I've done nothing but like show up to set and absolutely give every part of me to that movie or that show. And with my full heart, you know, meanwhile, I've got co-stars that aren't even allowed to come to set unless they have two security guards. I mean, the shit I've seen, like I'm a good, I'm a good person to work with. And because I didn't tow the line and narrative, I lose everything and I have to start from scratch.

And you could probably have said that, what you said at any other time in history, and people would have kind of understood what you were doing. But post Trump, the world is, like, if you said that in 2014, I think people would have disagreed with you on certain aspects of it. Maybe people would have complained, but I don't think you would have gotten fired. I think it's a post-Trump reality. Yeah. And I think we need to, like, when I was voting, I didn't like the word, you know, like, I didn't like the word Trumper. You know what i mean i felt like that was kind of counterproductive to i'm voting conservative and it's nothing against trump it's

just i felt like it was counterproductive to like you know oh okay you're democrat you're republican once you start putting these like names on people it it becomes like you they become less human and you're able to demonize them more and that that's something that I feel like I was like, you know, let's not call each other, you know, I don't think Bidens or I hate. They don't have one. They don't have one for Biden. Was there an Obama-er? It was not like Obama people. Well, see, when Obama came into power, I was like, that's cool.

You know, like he seems like he's a well-spoken, you know, dude that's like going to, you know, because I didn't know anything about politics. I didn't know how he was affecting the world. And so I didn't start paying attention. I was just happy that, you know. He was a statesman. He's a perfect representative of what you want from a president. Yeah. So I didn't even vote in the Hillary Clinton and the Trump, the first one.

I was like, I'm not popping my cherry there. I'm not popping my cherry on that vote. Like, I'm just going to stay out of that. Like, it didn't seem like a good idea. But when it came to the Biden and Trump, I was like, our country is going to be so hurting after we get done locking it down like we did. And all of the emotions and all of this

we need a powerful person to bring us back and like i don't understand like they're trying to push all of this agenda stuff that is really collapsing our economy right now the biden administration is like he could have really just brought back the country and then done that like why like he's hitting us hard two times, like the recovery from COVID-19 and then like switching everything over into, you know, this, you know, green energy agenda. Right. So it's like we're getting hit twice with like the gas and everything. It's like we're getting hit so hard. Why? He could have like made himself a hero. Come back, bring the economy back. I don't think he has. And I think it's very little to do what happens what happens day to day so there's somebody behind it there's probably quite a few

people and it's on there's people that are doing it because it's profitable for them it's beneficial for them and they're realizing now that it's not right this is one of the reasons why they're trying to move closer to the center and because they're realizing that this sort of radical left ideology is pushing more people to the right because it really is who are these people do you think what people the people you're talking about the people that are in control of everything these are what you would call deep state these are lifelong politicians that don't get elected that are you know they're not really politicians they're people in government positions like if you think about anybody in the intelligence agencies, people that are in the Pentagon, these people, they don't get elected. This is not like

people you get to vote for. You don't get to vote for who goes to, who decides to take us to, you know, well, you kind of do in that it's a president, and the president is the commander-in-chief, but the influencers, the people that step in and try to manipulate things to get us to do one thing or the other thing based on the amount of money that they're getting from these special interest groups.

And so these people, are they heads of corporations, or are they... There's a lot of that, too. Yeah, so, like... There's a lot of that, too. There's a lot of the pharmaceutical drug companies, oil companies, energy companies. What they're doing, what they're trying to do is maximize their profits, right? That's what all these companies that are, there's no reason for them to be investing in politicians if it's not profitable.

In the world economic form, then? That's bizarre. That's the most bizarre one. The fucking dude who dresses like Darth Vader? Klaus Schwab from the World Economic Forum. He can be in one of my movies. He can bring his own wardrobe. That motherfucker is wild.

He's like a bad guy in a movie. Well, and then you can have Justin Trudeau and Gavin Newsom right there with him. And it's like you got a full on opportunity for the great reset. Do you believe in the great reset? I don't know what it means. He wrote a book on it. It's a real thing. It's a real idea.

Yeah. What does it mean, though? I mean, I'd really have to go deep into the economics of it to understand it. That'll be the next book. That seems like I'm exhausted already just thinking about doing that. I think these motherfuckers want to control as much as they can. And I think they would love to have a digital currency that's centralized. A controllable digital currency like they have in China attached to a social credit score.

So if they have a social credit score system, they can decide, hey, Gina, you're stepping out of line. I don't think you should be able to buy a house. And they'll deny you a loan. And that is the kind of shit that is 100% going on right now in China. And so how do we, like, let's offer some options. How do we shake free of this? Well, I think that's one of the reasons why they hate things like crypto. And you.

And me. And you and me. Cryptos are, cryptocurrencies are decentralized. And the government doesn't have control over them. They can't decide. If everyone is buying computers and cars and stuff with Bitcoin, the government has no control over that. They can't decide. If everyone is buying computers and cars and stuff with Bitcoin, the government has no control over that. They can't control what it costs. They can't control how you use it, where it's stored. You're storing it on a phone. It's out there in the world

somewhere. It's not even a physical thing like gold coins that you can keep in Fort Knox. No, it's not based on anything. If they could figure out a way to have a centralized digital currency, they could control people much better. Decentralized things, whether it's decentralized podcasts, decentralized cryptocurrency, that kind of stuff scares the shit out of them because that's kind of like the Internet. What the Internet is is it changed the battleground because everybody gets to compete.

Now, what you're seeing that's negative about that is like all these people that comment on Twitter and all these mean people that are posting things and all the weird and people ganging up on people. See, that's the negative aspect. This is where human instincts get involved in this revolutionary groundbreaking technology, which is the ability to communicate for everybody instantaneously all around the world. So when human beings with our fucking goofy instincts get involved in this, you're going to see chaotic things like that. You're going to see gangs of people bullying people.

You're going to see pylons. You're going to see virtue signaling. You're going to see all the weird shit that you see right now. And I think you're going to see virtue signaling you're going to see all the weird shit that you see right now and I think you're going to see these companies and government I think you're going to see them employ some bots which is why I think what Elon Musk is trying to do and get rid of the bots

is so important it's very important because what happens is and I have a whole email to these publicists you know I was like do you guys see what's happening what's happening is I'm getting attacked from bots employed by who, who knows, a company, I believe. And they employ the bots. And then that the bots kind of grab a hold of the younger generation. And they manipulate the younger generation into, you know, the trans rights and all of this. And we're going to fire

this and, you know, fire Gina Carano all of a sudden as a hashtag. And none of these, none of these are like real accounts, but then they start to become real accounts with these younger generation. Then, you know, of course, Hollywood's always looking at the younger generation. It's like Hollywood's so afraid to grow old. It's like they're always constantly like living through the younger generation. So then that makes it to the Hollywood news. Once it made it to the Hollywood news, now, you know, it's going to make it to the major news.

And the publicist would tell me, so like just something ridiculous, like, well, Gina, this Vanity Fair article isn't a great look. And then I'd be like, well, let me show you who wrote that. And I'd go check the girl's Twitter. And I'm like, this girl tweeted three weeks before this article came out that she was going to, on purpose, she's like, I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm going to going to say something you know and she's a writer for i believe it's vanity fair i don't know what i'm going to do but it's going to be great meaning she's going to sabotage me in some way and so then the day my episode came out in mandalorian season one the day my first episode came out her article comes out and there's this like calculated attack coming from, you know, Lucasfilm employees coming from Disney manipulating.

Because they connected you with Trump. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is that you became the bad person. You became a representative of the Trump army because you were a conservative. So if you're conservative, you're the bad. Trump wasn't even. I'm not saying it's logical.

I'm not defending it. But this is just an aspect of human behavior that gets filtered through this revolutionary sort of groundbreaking technology. It's heartbreaking. But also, you get to do this. Also, this is also a part of the revolutionary groundbreaking technology. You get to express yourself like this. No one's telling you what you can and can't say. You can 100% express yourself.

That is the good side of revolutionary groundbreaking technology. Yeah. Is that people like, you know. Until they censor this whole entire thing. They're not censoring shit. Listen, you get through. Stuff gets through. And ultimately, all of it gets sorted out in the wash.

So you feel like it's just time that's going to take everybody to wiggle free a little bit and start fighting back? There's going to be people that never fight back. There's going to be people that dig their heels in. There's going to be people that fucking get Pfizer tattoos. There's a bunch of pussies out there. There's a lot of people out there that are cowards. And the moment things get weird, they fall apart. It was really strange to see some of these rock stars like, you know, like Howard Stern and like, you know, some people that fought so hard during their,

you know, their day about like freedoms and stuff and, you know, freedom of speech and all of this to kind of turn around and be like, let's send them all to the Mississippi River and like, you know, drown them or whatever he said. It's like, what? It's a cautionary tale. That's what it is. It's a cautionary tale. You're going to slap me right in the face if you see me 10 years from now. And I'm like. I'm not going.

It's not going to be you. But there's going to be people that you live long enough, your heroes will become villains. Yeah. A lot of people just fall apart. It's character. Some people have some character. They got a little character. And then when things get real, they fall apart.

What do you think you're going to be in 10 years? Hopefully, I'll be right here. I like the spot. Hopefully, I'll be right here talking shit. As long as I can keep my health. As long as I keep working out, you know, keep eating well and taking vitamins and being smart. I think I'll evolve my thoughts, but my principles in terms of like the way I look at things, of being as brutally honest as possible and as nice as I can be.

Those things are very important to me. The opinions that you have will evolve and change over time because information evolves and changes. You change. Your perspective is different. But I'm always going to be honest about my perspective. the opinions that you have will evolve and change over time because information evolves and changes. You change, your perspective is different, but I'm always going to be honest about my perspective. And you know, I might be wrong about things, but I'll tell you when I'm wrong.

If I'm wrong, I always want to come in and go, Hey, I fucked up. This is wrong. And this is why I thought it was that way. And I will never lie. I will never lie on purpose.

I will never like go out of my way to say things that are untrue to paint a different picture of the world or a picture of the world that will satisfy some company I'm working with or I'm not interested in that yeah and I don't have to so I'm just gonna keep doing this I think that's why people really are drawn to you. And I don't do this a lot, but this has been, you know, really nice. I have to do a couple more after this, but then I kind of want to, I kind of, I think people know where I stand. That, you know, where I stood in the last year. And by the way, I hope I'm wrong. I hope that, I was hoping I was wrong about a lot of stuff.

It's not that I sat there on my phone and thought, no, I can't wait. I can't wait to, you know, people start getting vaccine injured, you know, like to prove me right. Like, I really wanted to be wrong about a lot of the stuff that I'm seeing now about the economy. I was even like just hoping that Biden would just destroy it. Like, OK, awesome. Like, let's get back on track. Like, but I just yeah, i'm proud of myself for the last two and a half years um i can't wait to move forward and not have to talk about this cancellation

you know stuff i can't wait to get back into art and really just you know sink into all of that and disappear into it um but for the moment i think it's been important and i hope that more and more people understand even if we have opposing views pat Arquette I think you're phenomenal like it's okay for us to exist she thinks you stormed the capital you know people ask me and I'm like what where were you there's a thing that happens to older women in Hollywood and I'm just saying this in general I'm not saying this about Patricia Arquette because there's multiple examples of girls who are really pretty when they were young and then they get older

and they become the most uninformed activists. The weirdly uninformed. Like goofy Twitter activists. I know I'm like where are you finding the time? Because they don't have a fucking life. Like what do you wake up in the morning and I look at my verified ones?

Go look at Alyssa Milano's tweets. It's out of her fucking mind. But this is what happens to these people. They need something real. Some real fight. Some real cause. Some real thing. And it's probably inside their

own head. The real battle is probably in their own mind. That's what I felt like. I felt like I entered a conversation. Something popped up on the news feed, and it was in the middle of a conversation she was having with herself. And my article just popped up. Meanwhile, if you sat down and talked with her, I bet you'd probably have a reasonable conversation if she's not completely crazy. I bet we'd have a full bottle of wine, and we'd sit there and laugh, and we'd have some similar stories, and we'd have some very um different point of views and it would be fun and and i think it would be amazing and if you

couldn't i bet it'd be on her what do you mean if you couldn't have that kind of a peaceful like civil conversation i bet it would be on her i don't think it would be you yeah i think you're a nice person i think you'd listen to her i think you'd talk to her i'm interested actually please like talk to me about your perspective i really really want to understand. That's what we need in this world. That's what we need in this world. We need people talking to people, but also talking to people without an agenda. Just be honest, be open. We can disagree, but like, I want to know why you think the way you think, you know, don't just demonize people. There are a bunch of Trumpers or this or that. Like, yeah. of Trumpers or this or that. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cheers to that. Yeah. I didn't vote for Trump. I didn't vote for Trump. No, I vote for Joe Jorgensen because I thought this people would call me a Trump supporter

because I said I wouldn't vote for Biden because I knew exactly what was going to happen. And it's exactly what you're seeing. Right. This is what I called. And I said, his cabinet is going to be responsible for everything. He's not going to be able to do anything. I'm like, he is deteriorating rapidly. And the stress of being in office is going to be way worse.

I go, I'd vote for Trump before I'd vote for Biden. That's what I said. But I didn't say I was going to vote for Trump because I didn't. And it's not, can I have a little more whiskey? Hell yeah. It's not like I'm sitting there wanting to make fun of an old man. By the way, I have so much respect for the elderly. The last thing you want to see is a freaking old man.

Falling down on his bike? Yes. It was so sad. I hate that. You know what's sad to me? Children in third world countries that can't get any food. Oh my gosh, you sound like Kevin. That's what's sad to me.

Biden falling on his bike is hilarious. It was fucking funny. You know why? Because he didn't even get food. Oh my gosh, you sound like Kevin. That's what's sad to me. Biden falling on his bike is hilarious. It was fucking funny. You know why? Because he didn't even get hurt. It was funny. It wouldn't be so sad. I would probably be a lot more sad if I didn't feel like the entire family is just like a crime like, you know, just like sold out America to other countries. So I would

feel more sad. But it's not like I wanted to see, you know, I didn't want to see this happen to an elderly um you know person and to be honest in the future i think you know i would really like to see a um you know a younger president who has the energy and um the drive and the passion you know like i i would really like to see you know that kind of person that really has the intentions of bringing conversation to the table. You've interviewed Tulsi a bunch of times. I love Tulsi.

She's incredible. She'd be an amazing president. I think. Can you imagine if she was our vice president, right? If she was, we'd be like, oh, we can't wait. Like, yeah, he's, he's done. Push him off a cliff. Oh, great.

That's going to be trending. Joe Rogan, push him off a cliff. I was saying that in jest, ladies and gentlemen, only in jest. Was behind the bicycle incident. She's unusual in that they keep trying to label her right wing too. She was literally a Democratic congresswoman for eight years. She was a Democratic congresswoman from Hawaii, a woman of color, served and was deployed overseas twice in medical units. So dealing with people that are blown up, she's a great person. She's amazing.

She's an amazing leader. And Rhonda Santos is so- Yeah, but the thing is they're scared of her. Let's get that group together. They're so scared of her that she has all the qualities they want. You want a woman president? There you go. You want a woman of color?

There you go. You want a woman who's a veteran? There you go. There you go. You want someone who served in government, was a congresswoman? There you go. You want a woman of color? There you go. You want a woman who's a veteran? There you go. There you go. You want someone who served in government, was a congresswoman? There you go. Yeah. I mean, while you've got Kamala looking like she's got some sort of secret gun held to

her head to where she can't even like, you know, her sentences just go round and round. They're great. It's about the passage of time. It's about time and passing time. It's not fun. And that's why we have watches. We have watches because otherwise, how would you know how much time has passed? Time is a fleeting time type thing that only happens when time passes.

If you just sit there. So let's be good to each other with time. Oh my gosh, that was amazing. That's better than her writing. Yeah, that's way better than hers. She just wings it. She's just winging it. Do you think she wings it or do you think that she's... She looks scared.

She should be scared. She looks absolutely petrified. She should be scared that they don't dig up her record and find out what she actually has done. Yeah. Find out what she's done to all those people that she kept in jail longer than they were supposed to be released. To use them as cheap labor for the state to fight wildfires. Yeah. But all the people that she tried.

That was my friend, actually. Really? Well, yeah, he was in one of those prisons, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Look, that lady laughed about whether or not she'd smoke marijuana after she put people in jail for it. Yeah. Yeah. Look, that lady laughed about whether or not she'd smoke marijuana after she put people in jail for it. Yeah.

There's some fucking evil shit that's involved in that kind of lack of compassion for human beings that she displayed. And if we had a Tulsi right there, I don't think it would be a question. I think everybody would be like, great. Okay. Next. Okay. Well, when Tulsi sank Kamala Harris during the debate.

So sweet. Holy shit. See, that was sexy. That was sexy. They thought that Kamala was going to be the one. And Tulsi was like, hang on a second, because here's what's real. And when she said that, people were like, what the fuck? Is that real?

And then they started Googling it. And that was the end. That was the end. She literally fell out of candidacy right then. And then meanwhile, the stuff meanwhile she was like the stuff that she said about biden when he was running against her was horrible yeah but then she's like it was a campaign did you see that interview she did with colbert no she's like it was a campaign oh no oh you're about you're allowed to say things you don't believe during campaign

all they ever do right cut me out then out then. I'll never do that. They needed somebody that wouldn't overtake Biden and she's not overtaking him. I think Biden, with all of what he's been involved in, and his son, and his brother, I think with all of

his... There's no way that there shouldn't have been some sort of massive impeachment trial by now. But they're keeping that shit out of the news. they don't want kamala to be next so i think both the republicans and democrats are like we don't want that next so we're just gonna like hang out for a couple years i'm gonna make it though he's not gonna make it the way i described him i go he's like going for a long walk in the woods with a battery with a weak I fucked it up. Oh do it again. Do it again. The way I said it, it said

Biden is like going for a long walk in the woods with a flashlight with a weak battery. Like you're not going to make it. And he's taking America. I said it the other way though. I said it's like going having a flashlight with a weak battery and going for a long walk in the woods.

But that's what it's like. It's like you knew going in that what he is is like this old guy who is clearly suffering from some signs of deterioration. He's been suffering that for a decade, as he said. Well, he's had multiple brain surgeries. Yeah. He had aneurysms. Like serious where they have to take the top of your head out and drain blood and then screw it back in place.

And then he's got a stutter, too, which fucks him up even worse. So, like, people think he's dumb just because he has this stutter. It's like, it's a disaster. And, like, yeah. And then we're almost in a nuclear war with Russia. You know, Russia, there was some articles reading yesterday. Russia's thriving right now, aren't they? So what happened with them?

No, they're not thriving. They're not thriving? No, no, no. Oh, I thought their economy was good in their... No, no, no. Oh, okay. Their economy's fucked right now because of the embargoes. Yeah, because we're the sanctions.

We're imposing sanctions on them. That's the misinformation I've been getting then because I feel like they're looking at Russia and they're like, okay, they're fine. We're the ones that are suffering, but they're suffering as well. Well, we are suffering know like they're they're looking at Russia and they're like okay they're fine um we're the ones that are suffering but they're suffering as well we are suffering but they're suffering too the sanctions are fucking up the whole world the whole it's it's a scary thing when the whole world is looking at this one superpower that decides to invade another sovereign country and no one knows what to do and everyone's worried that China's going to do it to Taiwan yeah so it's just like let's stand by and see what happens just did like didn't like today or yesterday they had like the

largest fleet of planes like yet circle around Taiwan or something like that oh great I know what fun I yeah so all this stuff is happening while we have a dead man as a. Yeah. You know, it's just not fun. Are you throwing out any support towards anyone? Are you going to hold off? True. Didn't Elon Musk come out recently for DeSantis? Yeah.

I think Ron DeSantis would work as a good president. I mean, what he's done for Florida has been admirable. Look it, I feel like I'm doing breaking news right now. That wasn't even on purpose. I feel like what he did for Florida, a lot of people gave him a lot of grief. But ultimately, he was correct. He was correct when it comes to deaths. He was correct when it comes to protecting our vulnerable populations.

He was correct in terms of distribution of monoclonal antibodies. And he was furious when the government tried to pull those. They were trying to pull those. They were trying to pull very effective treatments. You know, he is not perfect. He's a human being. But what he's done is stand up for freedoms. And people think that that— There's some weird gaslighting shit that went on

where people equated freedom and saying the word freedom to, like, right-wing bigotry and hate is so strange well it was also it was also american flags so it was like if you had an american flag on your truck you know living in california that one we have right there right people were saying that i was a right wing person because i had that one behind it's over there now you know we have the sign but that was the one that was behind why do you hate america joe that fucking sign i love that um flag i love that flag and that used to be the background of the show it got it got like uh it's like trump demonized yeah yeah and then all of a sudden those same people are now complaining about january 6th and you know say like it's just

really weird it's really weird like the back and forth that goes on here so like they're burning flags a bunch of the okay they're pro burning flags and then now they're pro flag but then they still associate it with Trumpers and it's just like they're pro flag if you're like like a diversity flag you have to have

a good flag you have to have a pride flag or you have to have a BLM flag or you have to have a fuckingM flag or you have to have a fucking hammer and sickle. People are out of their minds. And most people what happens is they have like this narrow band of information they attach

all of their ideas to and then they join a tribe and that tribe enforces all of these ideas and if you step outside those lines, if you say, you know, I actually think Trump's kind of funny. Get the fuck out of here. And they'll push you into the desert. I know.

You'll starve without us. I do think Trump is kind of funny. He's funny. I will say it. He's funny. He makes me laugh. He's hilarious. When he called Kim Jong-il Little Rocket Man, I was fucking crying.

I was fucking crying. The dude's a wild man. Oh, my gosh. And then, like, you know, you kind of look back at some of the stuff he's saying. You're just like, I can't. He's a wild man. Yeah. He makes me laugh.

He makes me laugh too. Look, I think if he wasn't president, I'd probably love him. Yeah. I've never met him in person. He used to be in every rap song. They used to rap about him all the time. Yeah. People were always rapping about him.

Yeah. I think come 2024, by the time the election is rolling around, people are going to be so sick of the way everything is going. He has a very legitimate shot of winning again. Yeah. of him calling exactly all the moves that have happened, him saying exactly what the ramifications of the Biden administration's policies are going to be for gas prices, what they're going to do, they're going to come for your guns. He said exactly the things that are absolutely happening now. He's talking about gas is going to be $5 a gallon, and it is.

Yes. $7 a gallon. He said $5, $6, $7 a gallon, and here we are. Here we are. Exactly. The economy's going to tank. Yeah. Holy shit. He was $5, $6, $7 a gallon and here we are. Here we are. Exactly. The economy's going to tank. Yeah. Holy shit.

He was so right on. He was 100% right. And the Russian hoax and all the stuff that he was saying, that is what I appreciated. I was like, finally we don't have a politically correct guy in there and he's actually telling us what's going on. If COVID didn't happen, the economy would have been booming and he would have got reelected. Yeah. That's what I think. Yeah, I do too. I booming and he would have got reelected. Yeah. That's what I think.

I don't think Biden would have had a chance. Yeah. If we were in the middle of a pandemic, you know, that's where the really crazy conspiracy theory people come into play. Because they think that they released the virus on purpose. I might be. I think I am. I'm trying to like leave you out of this so you don't get more hate mail.

No, I really honestly, I'll say this. I don't know. I don't know. I just, um, I think what happened, you know, I think the timing of everything was really awkward. You know, I think that the blinders for me was, yeah, I feel like America's heart got broken this last, you know, so a lot of us that were so oblivious to what was happening, it's like somebody pulled down the blinders and they went up and it was like, oh, my gosh, I'm not now I don't trust anything. You know what I mean? So I might be a little bit extreme when it comes to that because I just just started paying attention in 2020. So I'm like this. And I hate to see fellow Americans like I hate to see their heart broken the way mine's been broken and understanding that like, oh my gosh, so much has been a lie. Yeah. And that crushes me. So I really just have a bit of trust issues when it comes to, you know, the timing of things. I have trust

issues when it comes to all of it. But I have to say my heart is still open. I'm not, you know, damaged. I'm not bitter. I'm just my heart is still open I'm not you know damaged I'm not bitter I'm just my heart is open I just need to understand and keep having conversations and keep watching how things play out and we have a real problem and one of the real problems is the the representatives that we have in this country are disingenuous and really bad at it yeah they they come across as being these weird artificial people that talk like this and use hand gestures that everyone else uses because they think it's the way to say it. Have you seen this new White House press secretary talking about how the economy is in the best shape it's ever been? Everybody's like, what the fuck are you talking about?

This is what I love is when they get the thing out, which they got from that Kayleigh chick, right? And they're just looking through it and knowing damn well they're like, shit, where is... Okay, I'm just going to... We don't have that answer yet. And they just keep going through their paper. Well, Jen Psaki was better at it than this new girl. This new girl is new and she's got to learn on the job. I have to say, Jen Psaki was really good at what she did.

She's really good at bullshitting. I hate... I did not like to watch her. The way she talked down to people. Condescending. It was so disgusting to me, but she was really good at doing that. Well, it's a battle, and that's what's unfortunate about it. It's not a real conversation about facts.

It's a battle to try to win each conversation that you have with these people that are in the audience. And now this girl. Every question. And this girl, she's not qualified. She's not qualified. She's not doing good at it. But I think maybe in a way. But you can't way like that maybe in a way um it's coming off better for them because she's not so

confrontational and so maybe it's making that she really looks like a you know a gentle little cute little soul but you know but you see don lemon even questioned her yeah is the president going to be able to run oh you we shouldn't even having this question, Dawn. You're asking me this question. I can't even keep up with him. I can't keep up with him. You need to go to a doctor, okay? Because you're young and healthy. What the fuck are you talking about you can't keep up with him?

I know. It's just lies. They're just lies. It's just a lie. But that's what I'm saying. That Kayleigh McKinney, is that how you say her name? She was such a stud. She was the best.

She was the best at it. Such a freaking stud. I miss watching her. And even the way she was confrontational a she was the best she was the best a freaking stud i miss watching and even the way she was confrontational was pretty pleasant yeah and she threw in a little dig every once in a while it was so great it was great she was great at it and why is peter what's his name peter ducy yeah ducy yeah um why is he like the only guy that's asking any questions in there are they starting to i don't think they have many representatives i feel like as soon as conservative

news jen saki got like removed now Peter is like, this is my moment. He was doing it with her, too. He caught her on a bunch of stuff. He caught on her when they were talking about illegal aliens getting into this country. Are you going to give them money? The whole thing is trying. I mean, the White House press secretary's relationship with the reporters, the whole thing is just trying to manipulate the view the American public has of each individual problem. Right. Like they're saying, if this is coming out of my mouth, right?

Like Biden's saying, this is coming out of my mouth and we all just have to believe it because you're the president. And he gets all upset and rages on his, you know, he's like, I am sick of these lies. And you're like, he's out of my mouth and we all just have to believe it because you're the president and he gets all upset and rages on his you know he's like i am sick of these lies and you're like he's out of his mind he's sad that's you're watching a guy that shouldn't be in that position you shouldn't it's not fair to let him be in that spot like because he's compromised mentally there's something wrong well he's been compromised more than that but there's that there's that but i mean his his mind's not functioning correctly clearly yeah and so it's sad because it's just like giving everybody an opportunity to dunk on and me as a comedian i kind of feel bad it's like i thought you didn't feel dunking on him it's like it's so easy it's like punching a blind guy it's like well if that blind guy is selling out your country

to other countries then you better be punching that blank punch the fuck out of them there's a lot of that too but my my point is it's like it's very hard for us to have reasonable intelligent dialogues with each other when our representatives don't seem reasonable or intelligent exactly yeah it's hard you know what's gonna be really awful and really funny and maybe comedic is you're gonna get a bunch of celebrities who were just like vote biden you know taking off their clothes vote biden they're gonna eventually in five years they're gonna be they were gonna be the ones you know saying that uh you know telling stories hollywood movies about this time i feel like you know five years from now three years from now,

hopefully sooner, people are going to tell stories about what really happened during this time. They're going to try to gaslight us. Yeah, they're not going to be able to because the internet, because there's enough independent news sources, you know, whether it's Breaking Points or Kyle Kalinsky or Glenn Greenwald or Sam Harris or Brett Weinstein or, you know, this podcast or whoever I get on, they're not going to be able to gaslight us, but they're going to try to. They're going to try to. Like, look at the Vietnam documentaries on Netflix that come out. Eventually, you've got to kind of like, eventually these stories come out, you know.

She compared COVID to Vietnam. Cancel her again. Just keep me canceled. Don't you know 60,000 Americans died of Vietnam? Just, you know what? Keep me canceled for a good couple years. It's just, you know, I don't want to be uncanceled at this point. You might be right, though.

You might be right. They might come out with a documentary that shows all the fuckery. Once Fauci's dead, you know, he's 80. You know, he's probably not going to live that much longer. Yeah. I mean, maybe they'll Maybe they'll go into depth the same way they went into depth with the cigarette companies when they did that document

or that film The Insider with Russell Crowe. I have to write that down. Fucking wild movie where you find out what was really involved in cigarettes. It's based on a true story. He's a scientist that worked with the cigarette companies to engineer the chemicals in cigarettes to make them more addictive.

And he lays it out in court exactly how it was done. Meanwhile, these guys were testifying that cigarettes were neither addictive nor dangerous when they knew they were causing cancer. Way back in the fucking 50s they knew they were causing cancer. And this is what the problem is. There's plenty of movies out there. What are some other movies? Radium Girls. Oh, Dallas Buyers Club.

Yes. That Dr. Fauci is directly involved with that story. Yes. And you've got these people playing these characters involved in these movies. And you're like, and you don't see any of like the. They don't want to see it in front of their face. Because people want to be able to sleep at night.

And the way you sleep at night is by putting blinders on and pretending that we're all on the right road. And when you're involved in a rigid ideology with left-wing progressive Hollywood, most certainly is. Left-wing progressive Hollywood is a very rigid ideology that's not well-informed oftentimes. You have a few well-informed ones, but there's a lot of these people that are just going

with the fucking flow of the river. And those people, it takes a long time for them to get weeded out, for them to crash into the rocks, for them to die, for them to move on. That's what it is. And then new people come along. Go over the waterfall. They can look at the sins of the past and they go, hey, you know, back in 2020, this is why they were lying about the Pfizer reports. This is why they were trying to hide the data. This is why they were, the VAERS report is ineffective. This is why they were trying to influence doctors to not report things. This is why they were trying to do this.

These are trying to demonize alternative medicines. This is why they were trying to do that. It's a profit thing. So accessing information and the amount of people that are going to keep on being frustrated and keep on, I feel like more and more people will start speaking out and be so, like you said, they're going to be so frustrated by this administration by the time it's done. Um, I feel like, and how,

you know, how much, how, well, this has been a movement, you know, like there's like other streaming services, the daily wire,

but there's more like the Babylon B, but five years from now, those are going to be big companies. The Babylon Bee out onion to onion. Amazing. They're fucking so funny. They're so consistently funny because the funniest shit right now is woke shit

and that's the shit that people on the left can't touch. So as a comic you're left without ammunition. All the woke comics are fucking terrible. I know. They're terrible and that's why the funniest parody comedy now is coming out of the Babylon Bee. Yeah. Because what they're doing is poking fun at this most obvious, ridiculous shit.

Because the truth is funny. It's truth. Yeah. But it's also, it's like, it's the one thing you're not allowed to touch. So they're running rampant. If it wasn't for the Babylon Bee, so what happens? The Babylon Bee gets kicked off of Twitter, which is crazy. They're taking a stand, too.

They could take down that post and they could be back on. Oh, my God. It's mind-blowing. We just got to keep wiggling free. We just got to keep on making art. And unfortunately, we're at this time in life as artists, but also fortunately, right? Because we can be at the start of something really great that's going to make your kids, I don't have any, but my nieces make it a bit.

Are you going to have some? You and Kevin have cute kids. No, you don't want any? I'm getting elderly now. You maybe got a year left. I looked at everybody while they were in quarantine and I was like, okay, that does not look fun. You mean trapped with kids. Like, I just. You mean trapped with kids?

No, I just, it just doesn't, I don't, I. It's just not for you? I don't know. It doesn't have to be for you. I'm not trying to pressure you into having kids. I mean, I feel like there's going to be a lot of kids that need adopting. That's true too, yeah. And I'm very, like my heart would be so grateful to do that, but I do. That's beautiful.

I got a little bit of a young spirit. I want to travel still i haven't reached um where i want to be in um creating art and doing stuff like that and i also think i'd just be a crazy person like i'd be i mean if the world keeps going in this direction i'll be in prison if i had kids you know what i mean i'm just my heart would just i can't imagine how much your heart breaks thinking about the world that you're not going to be able to control once your kids are older. But no one ever is able to control the world. I know myself. This is a thing that you have when people say, oh, I would never want to have kids today.

I'm like, oh yeah, why would you with all the books and medicine and shit? People, we're here because people fucked before they had doors. Yeah. Okay. They made children when we had no rules or laws or languages, and that led to us living today. But look, I'm just... You're not going to be able to control the world.

I'm just knowing myself and how emotionally sensitive I can be. I just... I think that it just... It petrifies... Because I know what it is. Love. I know what loving your child is, and I think that it just, it, it, it petrifies. Cause I know what it is. Love. I know what loving your child is. And I think that it's just, for me, that's the scariest thing in the world.

Yeah. But it also makes you more understanding and kind and it matures you. I'm pretty damn understanding and kind. I need to have children for that. But no, I mean, it's a, it's a different thing. It changes you. You should not have children if you don't have children. I'm not saying you should, but it changes people you should not have children if you don't have children yeah not saying you should yeah but it it changes people and i think for a lot of people it changes people for the better but listen nothing is guaranteed some people changes them for the worst some people get crazy look there's not you can't ever know what the fuck is going to happen when you overcome yeah you can't be afraid of it but i'm just then don't well and i also i love i don't. I really want to do art and I want to tell stories and I want to keep doing what I'm doing.

So until it's like, let's put a baby in there then I'm like, okay. Or let's get a baby because there's so many children that could need that. That's beautiful. I definitely will. I think it's going to be more on adoption.

Good. Do that. So there won't be any more there won't be more little troublemakers in life that kind of still will be troublemakers you have a couple oh yeah and i guarantee the middle child the troublemaker because i'm a middle child and yes my middle child is the wildest one here we are yeah but it's um you learn i have a friend who's a yoga instructor and he said that uh like he had children literally on purpose to educate himself and he said he's a great dad don't get me wrong yeah but he said like i wanted to know i wanted to educate myself through the development of other human beings he goes i really thought about it that way i was like wow and he goes yeah i did it like in many ways out of love because we wanted children you know my wife and i talked about this but also i thought it'd be a great way to

to learn um no doubt no doubt that it's got to be the most powerful thing you could ever do it changed me yeah it changed everything i think about life because I, I, I change, it changed the way I think about human beings because I used to think of human beings as being a static thing. Like today was the first day I've met you physically. And I would think of if I never knew of you, cause I did obviously know of you, I would think of you as you now. And I don't think of anybody as I think of them as babies that grew up because I've been with babies that are now people and I've watched like life experiences and education and just all these different environments form and shape their view of the world and their personality. That's what I think of people now.

So when I see people that are fucked up and even mean people and bitchy people, I feel sad because I say, well, that's a broken baby. That's what that is. I always look at people I don't really like and I try to imagine them in their kitchen with a dog. And if I don't feel bad for that dog, then I'm like, okay, they can have a little leniency. But if I feel bad for that dog, then I'm like, fuck that person. Well, some people need enemies, right? And they create enemies that maybe they don't even have to create because of their unreasonable stance on things the way they yeah they talk

i really do think i like i'm like okay this person got to you know you know maybe she's a producer and you know she's been through like a really hard history and i try to like look at things reasonably i'm not just instantly hating people i don't do that um i everybody i like when i meet people, then that's when I'm like, okay, I understand this person a little bit more. But I don't go off of hearsay. I don't go off of anything. So, yeah. We should all be more like that. Yeah.

Gina Carano, it's been a fucking good time. Oh, thank you. It's been a good time. I'm glad I got to meet you. I've always been a fan of you as a fighter and as a person. And you are exactly how I thought you'd be you're gonna be fine it's all gonna work out

so all you haters go eat shit she's better and stronger because of all this thank you for being such a light such a person that's gonna I think one day they'll be making a movie off of you they'll fuck it up

who would play you though? Mario Lopez bye everybody I think one day they'll be making a movie off of you. Don't. They'll fuck it up. Who would play you, though? Who would play you? Mario Lopez. Bye, everybody.