The Joe Rogan Experience - #1838 - Brian Simpson

Episode Date: June 30, 2022

Brian Simpson is a standup comedian and host of the podcast "BS with Brian Simpson." He's also on Season 3 of The Standups streaming on Netflix. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day i appreciate that you're committed to this fucking android thing i have a lot of friends that uh they send me the green text and every now and then one will show up blue they give up and they jump on the iphone train i'm like interesting i can't do it man no why what is it about it i because it's one of those things where i'm so into my tech and shit yeah and if you if i go iphone then i gotta go apple everything why because because that's the that's the whole advantage of going apple is that it all just works together so well because they're on their own little ecosystem, you know.
Starting point is 00:00:49 What's the advantage of not going Apple? Customization. Oh, okay. But you're not, are you using the phone with other stuff? Does it integrate with other stuff the way an iPhone does? Because I have a Samsung phone, Samsung tablet, Samsung watch. You know, and if I go iPhone,
Starting point is 00:01:07 then I got to get an Apple watch, I got to get an iPad, you know. What's better? Have you fucked with Apple stuff? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to, I've had iPhones.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Yeah? But I just. Oh, so you went Android after you went iPhone. I went Android, iPhone, Android, iPhone,
Starting point is 00:01:23 Android. Oh, so you went back and forth, huh? Yeah, I went back and forth, but, iPhone, Android. Oh, so you went back and forth, huh? Yeah, I went back and forth, but at the end of the day, it was just like... I stuck with Android, because Android is more on top of some of the latest... Apple won't do anything unless
Starting point is 00:01:37 they can do it in a way where it goes, oh, that's Apple. You know what I mean? Like the fucking headphones. Right. Like they would not come out with headphones until they could do something where you're like, when you see it, you know that it's not something else.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Right, you know it's an Apple device. Right, same thing with the Apple Watch. That's why it's shaped weird. It's because they want you to look at it and go, that's an Apple. That is true, because the Samsung one, some dude had one the other day on. It looked like a regular watch.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I go, that's a dope watch. What is it? He's like, it's a Galaxy Watch. And I thought it was a regular watch. And go, that's a dope watch. What is it? And he's like, it's a Galaxy watch. And I thought it was a regular watch. And he goes, no, you can change the screen. And he's like, fuck it with it. But it was round. Yeah, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:02:11 It's like, ooh. But it just looks like a watch. Apple don't want that, you know? Yeah. But I do love the way all the Apple shit works together. But it's like, they call it a walled garden. Yes. Everything's beautiful in the garden.
Starting point is 00:02:24 But you try to do some shit outside. Like, like, cause an Apple does all these little, they do all these little shitty tactics to facilitate that. Right. So, so the whole green bubble,
Starting point is 00:02:33 blue bubble thing that originally came out, like you remember back when you had to pay for texts? No. Yeah. They used to charge for text messages. How much did they charge? I don't know. It was like,
Starting point is 00:02:44 you know, five cent a message or they would give you a bundle or some would come with your plan. And Apple created iMessage and green was supposed to represent a text that you paid for and blue was supposed to be one that was free because it was in the Apple network. And then right after they invented it, that kind of went away. All text messages are free. But they noticed that there was a little snobbery there. So they purposely, they could fix it. They could easily integrate iMessages so that it doesn't come up different.
Starting point is 00:03:23 But they won't because it increases that fear of missing out that makes people want to go, fuck, I'm just going to get an iPhone. I'm tired of being left out of the group chats. Perfect example, if you send me a video, it'll come up blurry. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:03:38 And that's an Apple thing. It is? Yes. But if you send a Samsung guy a video, will it come out perfect? Oh, yeah. If I send you a video, will it come out perfect? Oh, yeah. If I send you a video, it'll come out perfect. But if you send me one, it'll come out blurry.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Really? Yeah, because they want me to feel left out. Here's another example. You know how when you text somebody, they can react to it, so it'll be like a smiley face or whatever? Right. face or whatever right so up until recently if if i sent you a text and you and you hearted it right it would it would say to me joe hearted and then it would give me my whole text in quotes oh and what does it do now well now android's work has done like a little workaround so if that if you get a text like that it'll just put a heart underneath it. Okay, so I'm going to send you one right now.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Yes. And you'll get a little heart. All right, here we go. Oh, my shit's off. Oh, okay. I forgot it. Yeah. So Apple does that on purpose because they want you to put the pressure on your friends to buy an iPhone.
Starting point is 00:04:39 It's kind of smart. It is. It's genius. I'm not mad at them for it. They have no incentive to work together with everybody else. But isn't it also that it's encrypted? Like, iMessengers are encrypted, whereas text messages are not. Yes, that's true.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Again, but that's something that they won't allow the encryption to be shared. Because here's the thing. That's only a thing in the U.S. Everywhere else in the world, people whatsapp and right right all this other stuff only whatsapp's giant overseas oh it's huge it's huge and and an iphone is not the just the only well not just only here but there's only one or two countries where it's the number one phone really yeah that's interesting i wonder why whatsapp and all those other things i think it's because you could use them over wifi
Starting point is 00:05:25 And so you could chat Without using your minutes Right Right You could use them over wifi It's encrypted It's all the things that come With iMessage
Starting point is 00:05:32 It's it's own platform Do you remember when Roaming Would cost you a fucking Shit load of money Yeah Like if you used your phone In Connecticut
Starting point is 00:05:40 You'd be doomed I remember when you had minutes Yeah You had talk minutes Yes And it's like, a lot of these kids don't get it, man. That's pretty recent. Yeah, it's not that long.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I mean, no more than 15 years ago. Was it that long ago? Minutes? Yeah, night and weekend minutes, you know. 7pm, Obert, yours are at 9, ours are at 7. I remember when I had, because I used to have Singular, which is, I think they're part of T-Mobile now, but Singular used to be like, if I called another Singular customer, it didn't use my minutes.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Or if you called somebody during certain hours, it didn't use your minutes. It was like peak hours and off hours. Yeah, I remember that. Singular, I remember, too. And what's funny is, it's the same fucking network. First, they told us, oh, we have to charge for minutes. Otherwise we would swamp the network. And now minutes are free.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And then they started charging for texts. It will flood the network. We got to charge for texts. And now text is free and they charge it for data. And data they actually need. I don't know if they need to charge what they charge. You know, whenever shit goes down and everybody tries to use their phone, you can't use your phone. Ever.
Starting point is 00:06:43 That's what's weird. Like try using your phone at a sporting event. if you're at like a super bowl or something like that yeah it's impossible everybody's using their phone well try calling somebody somewhere where just something happened an earthquake or something right yeah it's a wrap it won't work no isn't that wild like if they have a million customers like save a cell phone just as an example just for a number they don't have to have a million lines available at all times no they should they should treat them like casinos like you have to have x amount of dollars for every person that's in the casino right in case
Starting point is 00:07:16 they win yeah because could they accommodate everybody like there has to be 250 million phones in this country minimum minimum yeah probably more yeah probably as many as there are people right yeah but if everybody wanted to call at the same time what's the number that it can hold fuck i don't know is it local because it's like local breakers or local i mean how does that work do you know it works? It's it's it's wild because there's different technologies on different networks. Right. It's 4G and it's 5G. No, no, no. I mean, like CDMA versus I forget what the other one is, but like Verizon. GSM, right? Yeah, GSM. Right. And so they so and I want to say I think we're the only country, the only Western country where it's split that way. Like, if you go to Korea, it's all one technology. I think they all use GSM.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yeah. I think, correct me if I'm wrong about this, too. I think CDMA works better deep inside of buildings. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I think that was the positive aspect. And that's only, in this country, Verizon and Sprint, right? Well, Sprint just got bought, just merged with T-Mobile.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Oh. Yeah, so it's getting smaller now. And at the end of the day, Disney's going to own everything. Disney's going to own everything. They're going to own every fucking thing, man. Damn. I saw something on DirecTV. You might be losing the Sunday ticket for the NFL,
Starting point is 00:08:45 which has been the biggest thing holding it together for 30 years maybe, since 1990 or something they've had a deal. Good, fuck off. They pay $1.5 billion a year. Why are they going to lose it? The rights end after this season or next season, and the NFL is asking for $3 billion a year. Yep, and you know who got it?
Starting point is 00:09:01 Disney. There's only three companies that can afford it. Disney, Netflix, I hope YouTube, I hope Google buys it and puts it on YouTube, because I miss because direct TV is fucking trash, and the only reason anybody has it is because
Starting point is 00:09:15 of the Sunday ticket. Really? Nobody owns, or people that like live in rural areas and they can only get satellite, you know, but the vast majority of their customers, they're being forced to deal with direct tv so they can have sunday ticket because the nfl started doing started doing this like anti-fan bullshit a long time ago when they made um they they put out an exclusive bid for their video game so remember it wasn't too long ago where there was there was madden was Game Day, there was 2K.
Starting point is 00:09:47 There was, you know, anybody could license and make an NFL game. And then one year, NFL was like, only one person gets it. That's how much it costs. You know, and EA bought it and just started making a shitty game every year. Well, no, it wasn't shitty every year, but they don't have any competition. And then they did the same thing with the Sunday Ticket. They were like, we'll give exclusivity if you'll give us a billion dollars every year. So DirecTV pays the billion dollars every year and then charges their customers like $600.
Starting point is 00:10:14 There's certain things that anchor a network, right? Like Howard Stern anchors Sirius. Yeah. Like if Howard Stern left Sirius, they'd be fucked. Yeah, pretty much. Because how many people even have that now? You know what? It's more people than you think.
Starting point is 00:10:27 It's more people than I would think. Sirius is sneaky famous like Garth Brooks. Ha! You know? That's perfect. Because you know what they do? They bundle it. They bundle it with car purchases.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Right. And so then you get used to hearing something and you go, well, fuck it. You know, what is it? $10 a month? Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah, if they can get you addicted that's a good move that's a great sneaky deal to have uh it integrated with cars yeah it's very smart and i still get a check i get checks from serious too sometimes oh yeah for like royalties yeah like um yeah bits yeah so they they so they they paying it out well they were the first people to do podcasts Really? Like the real first podcasts were opium Anthony and Howard Stern
Starting point is 00:11:12 Because they were you know, obviously it came off of the radio, but they were the first people to do radio uncensored Oh, yeah radio uncensored on Sirius existed before there was the internet podcast Yeah, cuz remember back when it was, who was their rival? It was Sirius and something else. XM. XM. And then they merged. Yeah, yeah. And it was good. It's still good. And they can tell who's exactly
Starting point is 00:11:35 who's listening and how many listens you're getting. Yeah. They know how many receivers are out there. I wonder if they know how many receivers are receiving at any given time. The regular radio radio i don't even know how that's still a thing some people like it man you'd be amazed you know who likes it the kind of people can food who like do it themselves yeah the kind of people who like fucking they've got like freeze-dried food buried in the garage yeah you know what i mean
Starting point is 00:12:05 yeah they got a bunker for the end of the world yeah those are the type of people that have ham radios and they're listening in over my boy scotty's father's a ham radio guy well that used to be the shit you could talk to someone with if the the weather was right you could talk to someone in alaska oh yeah talk to someone on the other side of the world. Well, what's scary is, because he's one of these people, like, he's really, like, how do I explain it? He was really, really smart in the 70s. Like, he had the world mastered. You know what I'm saying? Right.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And now he's sort of, like, not with the new technology, but that motherfucker can use a ham radio. He makes his own rifles. but that motherfucker can use a ham radio. He makes his own rifles. You know, so it's like if things went to shit, he would be the only person that I knew that I could be like, how the... He would be the guy in the movie. Like you'd be on a hill and you'd hear a distant shh.
Starting point is 00:12:56 So here we are here. If you're hearing this, there is a state of emergency. Seek high ground. Do not make noises at night. Or like right when a bear is about to eat your ass It just gets blown away And you're like what the fuck And it's like some old man on the hill
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yes yes Yeah that's how it is in those movies He would be that guy He'd be that guy with his own generator Those are the people that are going to live I had this conversation last night with Eric Anders Eric Anders was the guest on the podcast yesterday He's a fighter in the UFC's middleweight division.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Really fucking cool guy. Used to be a football player. And we were talking about, last night, we were all talking about, like, super volcanoes. We started freaking out. Like, he was talking about how he took his kid to Yellowstone. And he's standing there. He's like, we should probably get the fuck out of here. Like, this is a volcano.
Starting point is 00:13:46 But it's like that whole part of the United States. It's not just that park. It's like Span States. It's so big. I don't think it's Span States, but I think the Caldera, I think it's 300 kilometers wide, if that's correct. It might be 600 kilometers wide. It's either 300 miles or something like that. But it's might be 600 kilometers wide. It's either 300 miles or something like that. But it's at least 300 kilometers wide.
Starting point is 00:14:08 If it goes off, we're fucked. If it goes off, we're fucked. And it probably means the whole human race is fucked. It's not as simple as we're fucked. We're going to get down to a few nomadic tribes in the Amazon. This is going to kill almost everybody. This thing's so big. Yeah, that's insane, man.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah, see, it crosses Montana and Idaho and Wyoming. So that's the whole seismic region, right? Okay. So where is the, what's the width of the caldera? Because that was the thing that I was confused about. Because I thought they said it was, like, 300. Unless 300 kilometers, like, goes through some of those states, but that doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I guess it does if it's on the edges, right? But what they're saying is that it's 30 by 45 miles wide. Holy shit, man. That's not as big as I thought. I thought it was like 300 kilometers. The third and most recent massive... Maybe that's like wherever the volcanic activity is under the surface.
Starting point is 00:15:11 But whatever it is, it's a super volcano that every 6,000 to 800,000 years blows. And when it blows, it kills everything. And we're overdue. Yeah, we're in that range. We're 600,000 years ago. Plus, in that range. Isn't 600,000 years ago plus in that range.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Isn't it wild that, because I fight, because you hear me say cynical shit all the time. If it's funny, you'll say it. Yeah. You don't say cynical shit because you're a cynical dude, though. You say cynical shit because it's a funny thing to say. You know what it is? It's a constant fight.
Starting point is 00:15:43 It's like, because my reflex is cynicism yes and i'm trying and i'm trying not to be but but it's like it's hard because you would think after the pandemic like after something that affected everybody right that we would realize that like all our little petty shit don't really matter like well some of us do you do i do a lot of people do but but it's like, I honestly believe if some global, like say there was an asteroid headed towards Earth, like a species ender. Right. Congress would still be debating about some shit.
Starting point is 00:16:17 You know what I mean? When it was like, Neil deGrasse Tyson would be sitting over here going, guys, we need to fucking do something now. Him and Elon would be like, I going guys we need to fucking do something now here's the him and elon would be like elon would be like i i've i've designed the record you know and and they just need funding and and congress would be still playing like the political game you know yeah every disaster movie starts with them ignoring a scientist right it's true and it's like that that's because they care more about it's like they don't care that the house is on fire they want to know who's in charge of the ashes when it's over.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Well, you also got to wonder, like, why are they doing what they're doing? Like, is someone in Congress, are they there because they want power? Are they there because they want money? Or are they there because they want to help people? I think there's three different kinds of people. And there's a lot of variations on the theme. I think everyone that starts out trying to help people gets corrupted a little bit. I think a little bit, right?
Starting point is 00:17:09 Yeah. I think they get a little cynical. And I think they learn how to play the game. Yeah, because that's the thing. It's like, I guess I would consider myself a liberal. But I hate liberal politicians because they're pussies. Oh. You know what kills me is like, so take this abortion thing that just happened.
Starting point is 00:17:28 It's like, you know what, you know what, you know what we lost? Because we're pussies. Because we don't have a Trump. We, like, because cancel culture only works on our side. Republicans ain't canceling no motherfucker. They don't give a fuck what, like. They don't cancel each other, that's for sure. Remember, so this whole political, through this whole, uh biden was trying to do politically is being held
Starting point is 00:17:48 up by one senator right joe manchin or whatever and you know you know you know when we lost one senator we canceled al franken the comedian yeah we canceled him because his hand was hovering over a titty yeah and then they had trump going grab him by the pussy that motherfuckers president you know i'm saying because all all republicans care about is are you gonna vote the right way right they want to win right we want to we want to feel good we want to feel good about who's representing us instead of winning i i need i like i want an evil motherfucker up in there now i want somebody that's like, you know, because you come to Congress with good intentions and they go, okay. But listen, if you want to do all that and change the world, you got to fucking drown this puppy. And some people are like, I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And they're like, well, then you're never going to be more than a representative. You want to be a senator? You got to get some blood on your hands. Yeah. Yeah. Eyes wide shut. I mean, we need somebody that's ruthless, man. We need a ruthless.
Starting point is 00:18:45 But that's not a Democrat. The thing is, like, too many people on that side would never vote for that. A lot of liberals become conservatives because they're tired of losing. I think a lot of liberals become conservatives because they realize the worst end of liberalism. They see the hard, far left end of it, the Antifa people and the, the, the people that want to, they think that somehow or another, the blocking the highway is going to bring back Rover. Like this is,
Starting point is 00:19:11 these are, these are those kinds of people. They don't want to be associated with it. There's like people that think that like yelling and screaming about things. It's not just about the thing. It's also about you want to yell and scream. Like when, when you're doing that and you're, you're screaming at people on the highway,
Starting point is 00:19:27 you're not arguing with them. These people, they probably agree with you. Like a lot of these people you're blocking in traffic and beating their cars if they don't listen to you. You don't have any authority and you've decided that because you're outraged you're going to stand in the middle of the street. But whatever, climate change.
Starting point is 00:19:43 You've seen those people? They lock hands and they block roads for climate change. That's not fixing climate change. All you're doing is you getting attention and getting people angry at you for this decision that you have to stop people throughout their day. Maybe they're driving to work to go solve climate change, you fucking idiot. And these idling cars are probably putting a lot of CO2 in the air. It's all not good. It's all not good. It's all not good.
Starting point is 00:20:05 But it's just the point is it's not an effective way. It's not an effective way. You know what also kills me, too, is like I think a lot of people don't realize from the abortion thing is like they didn't ban abortion. They banned safe abortions. Abortions are going to happen. You know what i'm saying like my grandma's back in the day it was like you know you would get sent to you know if you got pregnant you and you couldn't you would get sent to you know another to go visit family you know you
Starting point is 00:20:35 would come back with a sister or come back with a niece you know what i mean and or you have to go into some back alley and get scraped. You know what I'm saying? And so that's what's coming back. Because people go, you can't, I just read, I just talked about this on my podcast. So the World Cup is in Qatar. Yeah. And there's no fucking. What?
Starting point is 00:21:03 They ban fucking. So, yeah. Come on. No, I'm not kidding. Come on. Unless your spouse is another Olympic athlete, you're not allowed to fuck in Qatar for the World Cup. Oh, so they can't hook up.
Starting point is 00:21:16 No fucking. No fucking anybody that's not your spouse. What? Yeah, and it's not like a passive thing. They really reiterate it like, yeah, look. Is that how you say it, cutter? Is that how you say it? Yeah, and it's not like a passive thing. They really reiterate it like, yeah, look. Is that how you say it, cutter? Is that how you say it? Some people say Qatar.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Some people say cutter. I don't know how to say it. I only read it. Enacts sex, or if I said it, I forgot. Sex bans for unmarried fans ahead of World Cup. Qatari officials have repeat. That sounds like a fucking Star Wars thing. It sounds made up.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Qatari officials have repeat. That sounds like a fucking Star Wars thing. It sounds made up. Qatari officials. I only bring it up because I'm like, you can't fight human nature. You can't stop people from fucking. Wow. Foreigners attending a tournament will have to comply with the Qatari laws, such as the criminalization of public intoxication. A person could also face the death penalty if caught smuggling cocaine into the country. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Wow. Holy shit. According to British news outlet Daily Star, FIFA officials warned that no exceptions will be made, emphasizing that one night stands could lead to seven years imprisonment. Holy shit. Damn, that's some good pussy. You can't. What if you're publicly drunk and you have sex?
Starting point is 00:22:28 Which is usually how they go hand in hand. Yeah, they're usually a one-two combination. Add a little cocaine on you. God damn. Yeah, that's a wrap. Death penalty for coke. Yeah, if you think Brittany Griner ain't coming home. And she only had, we were just talking about this on the last podcast,
Starting point is 00:22:45 she only had a vape pen of CBD. CBD? Yes, it's a cannabis product. I'm pretty sure. There's even speculation she didn't have it and it was planted. Oh, well, that could be possible, too. But, I mean, a lot of athletes are using CBD for joint aches, and if you're a professional basketball player.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And what was she doing in Russia to begin with? I guess Jamie said she was playing a game. Yeah, a lot of WNBA, there's a big professional women's basketball thing going on over there. I remember seeing a video a long time. There's a lot of billionaires that just pay to have the best team, even though people aren't going to the games. They just have money, so they pay for the best players. My team beat your team. And they gamble on it. Sure, a lot of stuff going on yeah so interesting so where's this billionaire when
Starting point is 00:23:28 when we need the motherfucker that's where i don't exactly know what if she was going through somewhere they knew she was coming i don't know yeah it's not it sounds like she's a political prisoner we talked about in the last podcast they're trying to get an arms dealer and they want to free him in exchange for her yeah and you know and you know what you know the calculation we're making is she's not worth that yeah you know it's like it's like if we only have so many political prisoners we they're they're making the cold calculation of oh well we can't we're not going to trade you a diplomat and an arms dealer for a basketball player yeah especially a black lesbian isn't that crazy that there is a like a there, there's a, like if that was certain people
Starting point is 00:24:09 they would do it for. Like if that was Obama. If Obama got kidnapped in Russia. Actually, no, we'd be at war. Yeah, we'd be at war. Yeah, for sure. Wouldn't be, it'd have to be like Oprah. Even people that, even people that, Oprah?
Starting point is 00:24:21 Oprah. What if Oprah went to Russia and they got Oprah for a CBD pen? Would she pay it off? Do you think she would? Yeah. That's all she'd have to do? How much do you think it costs to get out of jail right now in Russia? I think Oprah got it.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I know that. She's got it, for sure. Somebody doesn't have it to get Brittany Griner out. She's been in there for four months. Well, the WNBA doesn't make a lot of money. How much money do you think you'd have to bribe them? Just guess. I mean, for sure they have character and moral, and they would never accept our bribe.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Oh, yeah, no, of course not. Of course, that's not what we're saying. I'd say probably $100 million. Oh, my God. Yeah. Wow. And I think that's probably the salaries of the whole WNBA. She's in trouble. She's really in trouble, man. Yeah,BA. She's in trouble.
Starting point is 00:25:06 She's really in trouble. Yeah, man. She's facing, what, 10 years? Yeah, something like that. And she's already been in there for four months, and they're detaining her for another six. What's wild is, like, I think that's more than they give you for being gay over there. Is that part of it? Well, no, because I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Because it's illegal to be gay over there. It's illegal, yeah. But I don't know. We illegal to be gay over there it's illegal yeah but but i don't know we talked about in the last podcast but we never really looked it up is it illegal to be gay in russia is that a real thing i'm reading something about her specific thing and saying there's many angles to this story i'm trying to see if it's saying i think i think it's illegal to do gay shit i think they know she's i mean if you fly in in basketball female basketball players you know some lesbians in the box. You know, what's interesting about Russia? Here it is.
Starting point is 00:25:46 This is a very difficult position to play. A Garner, an outspoken advocate for LBGTQ rights, living and working in a country that has outlawed the propaganda. Oh, it's outlawed the propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations. Propaganda under the vague cloak of that cruel law. Griner's own marriage to her wife, Sherelle, might be considered a criminal act. Yeah, that's bullshit. It is bullshit.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Stop trying to control how people fucking. It's weird. I was just going to say there's levels of dictatorships. And what we're seeing in Russia, which is really interesting, it's like an emerged level of dictatorship that we didn't think existed after the Cold War We thought Russia had gone into some sort of vague semi democracy, right? Yeah, then when Putin really just grabbed the bull by the balls and decided to be president again You realize like oh no no no no no no no no no no this is a
Starting point is 00:26:42 Propaganda driven dictatorship just like North Korea, just like a little looser, though. Like, you can have guys like chess masters who talk shit about the government, and they don't kill them. You know, like they haven't killed Garry Kasparov. Because one of the most dangerous people is a motherfucker that is one of the top soldiers
Starting point is 00:26:59 that lost the last war, like for us. They always come back and back, because he was one of the top soldiers in the Cold War when we whooped that ass. Yes. And and back because he was one of the top soldiers in the Cold War when we whooped that ass. Yes. And we never thought he'd be running the,
Starting point is 00:27:08 like, you know, you ever heard of Hannibal, the General Hannibal? Yes. He was whooping, he was beating the shit out of Rome.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Like, whooping their ass up left and right. And one of the, one of the biggest battles ever, the Battle of Cannae, is when he,
Starting point is 00:27:21 he crushed, he, he wiped out a large percentage of the male Roman population in one day with a smaller army just by outsmarting them. But one of the motherfuckers escaped, Scipio. And they call him now Scipio Africanus because he studied all his tactics, he bided his time, and he came back and was whooping Hannibal's ass.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I mean, he didn't end up killing him. He ended up killing himself later on, but he figured out the blueprint. He came back and beat him with his own tactics because he was one of the handful of motherfuckers that slipped away from Canaille when Hannibal was beating the shit out of Rome. So he saw how they did it and knew their tactics and then devise a strategy yeah because one of the big advantages hannibal had was his was his uh was his uh nubian cavalry and when scipio came back to fight him he he paid them off so now they were on his side oh well one of the things about russia
Starting point is 00:28:20 and the soviet union and the the whole thing is that they have always had a long-term propaganda strategy for the United States. And it was outlined, it was outlined this conversation from like 1984 by this guy, Yuri, how do I say his name? It's Beminoff. Do you remember that guy? He was a, uh, a guy who used to work for the Soviet Union. See if you can find it. He was a guy who used to work for the Soviet Union. See if you can find it. Yuri Deminov. I'm trying to remember his name.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I think I'm fucking that up. But he basically was outlining their strategy for getting us to no longer trust our democracy. Find his name? Besminov. Besminov. I knew I fucked it up. But this guy outlined... Let's play it, because it's kind of crazy. I know we've played this before, but it's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:29:11 It's an hour and a half long. I don't know what the exact part would be. This is the full interview. Oh, see, get a highlight. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Thank you. That's it. That's perfect. Damn, he defected? They killed his ass, right? I don't know. Ideological sub subversion that is a phrase that uh... i'm afraid some americans don't fully understand
Starting point is 00:29:31 one so he used to work so he's used this phrase ideological subversion what do they mean ideological subversion is is the process which is legitimate all work and open. You can see it with your own eyes.
Starting point is 00:29:47 All you have to do, all American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see it. There is no mystery. There is nothing to do with espionage. I know that espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic. It sells more deodorants through the advertising probably that's why your hollywood producers are so crazy about james bond type of thrillers but in reality the main emphasis of the kgb is not in the area of intelligence at all according to my opinion and opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such.
Starting point is 00:30:30 The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, ...'aktivne meropriyatia' in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country. in the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country. It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided in four basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which requires to educate... ...one generation of students in the country of your enemy, exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations... ...of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism American patriotism the result the result you can see most of the people who graduated in 60s dropouts or half-baked intellectuals are now occupying the positions of power in the government civil service business mass media educational system.
Starting point is 00:32:06 You are stuck with them. You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind. Even if you expose them to authentic information... ...even if you prove that white is white and black is black you still cannot change the basic perception and the logic of behavior in other words these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible to get rid society of these people you have you need another 20 or 15 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of the United States society.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And yet these people who have been programmed and, as you say, in place and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept. These are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country? Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when they will see in future what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in practice, obviously they will revolt. They will be very unhappy, frustrated
Starting point is 00:33:28 people. And the Marxist-Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. Obviously, they will join the links of dissenters, dissidents. Unlike in present United States, there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist America. Here you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being dissident, for criticizing your Pentagon. In future, these people will be simply squashed like cockroaches. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful, noble ideas of equality. This they don't understand, and it will be a greatest shock for them, of course. The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already.
Starting point is 00:34:17 For the last 25 years. Actually, it's over-fulfilled, because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information.
Starting point is 00:34:51 The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp he will refuse to believe it until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom when a military boot crashes his... then he will understand, but not before that that's the tragic of the situation of demoralization so basically America is stuck with demoralization
Starting point is 00:35:24 and unless, even if you start right now, here, this minute So basically America is stuck with demoralization. And unless, even if you start right now, here, this minute, you start educating new generation of Americans, it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of ideological perception of reality back to normalcy and patriotism. The next stage is destabilization this time subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption whether you junk food and get fat and flabby doesn't matter anymore this time and it takes only from two to five years to destabilize a nation it's what what matters is essentials economy foreign, foreign relations, defense systems.
Starting point is 00:36:07 And you can see it quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast. The next stage, of course, is crisis. It may take only up to six weeks to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in Central America now. And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure
Starting point is 00:36:46 and economy, you have so-called the period of normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 1968, Comrade Brezhnev said, now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized this is what will happen in the united states if you allow all these schmucks to bring the country to crisis to promise people all kind of goodies and the paradise on earth to to destabilize your economy to eliminate the principle of free market competition and to put a big brother government in Washington DC
Starting point is 00:37:27 With the benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale Who will promise lots of thing never mind whether the promises are? Fulfillable or not he will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of new generation of Soviet assassins Nevermind he will create false illusions that the situation is under control. The situation is not under control. The situation is disgustingly out of control. Most of the American politicians, media and educational system trains another generation of people who think they are living at a peace time. False. The United States is in the state of war. Undeclared total war against the basic principles and the foundations of this system.
Starting point is 00:38:15 And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov, of course. It's the system, however ridiculous it may sound, the world communist system or the world communist conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If you are not scared by now, nothing can scare you. But you don't have to be paranoid about it. But what actually happens now, that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless the United States wakes up. The time bomb is ticking. With every second, the disaster is coming closer and closer.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to, unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins. This is it. This is the last country of freedom and possibility. Okay. So what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people? Well, the immediate thing that comes to my mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in in in the spirit of real patriotism number one number two to to explain them the real danger of socialist communist whatever welfare state big brother government if people will fail to grasp the impending danger of that development
Starting point is 00:39:42 nothing ever can help united states you make his goodbye to your freedom, including freedoms to homosexuals, to prison inmates. All this freedom will vanish, evaporate in five seconds, including your precious lives. The second thing, the moment at least part of United States population is convinced that the danger is real They have to force their government and I'm not talking about sending letters signing petitions and all this beautiful noble activity I am talking about forcing United States government to stop aiding communism Because there is no other problem more burning and urgent than to stop the Soviet military industrial complex from destroying whatever is left of the free world. And it is very easy to do. No credits, no technology, no money, no political or diplomatic recognition, and of course no such idiocy as grain deals to USSR the Soviet people 270 millions of Soviets will be eternally thankful to you if you stop aiding a bunch of murderers who sit
Starting point is 00:40:52 now in Kremlin and whom President Reagan respectfully calls government they do not govern anything list of all such complexity as the Soviet economy so basic to very simple maybe too simplistic answers or solutions but never nevertheless they are the only solutions educate yourself understand what's going on around you you are not living at the time of peace you are in a state of war and you have precious little time to save yourself um You don't have much time. Wow. I was expecting this.
Starting point is 00:41:30 From like the 80s. 1984. 1984. So what he's basically talking about was they embedded these kind of educators in place and they somehow or another were responsible for like putting psychological warfare on people that sounds hard to believe right how i mean how could someone get through the the process of becoming a phd and all that stuff but what
Starting point is 00:41:57 doesn't sound hard to believe is that they do it with social media because they 100% do. So this is not a new tactic that they devised. The tactic of getting us to lose faith in our country, in our government, in our process, they've been doing that forever. But they have a sophisticated way of doing it now through the internet. It's crazy. They have programs and they have people and they have farms where they just propagandize and do things. Did I ever tell you about that there's a lady named Renee de resta she's been on the podcast before and she researched this she found out there was like out of one of the things they found out when they were looking at these
Starting point is 00:42:36 propaganda sites the top 20 Christian sites on Facebook 19 of them were run by Russian troll farms Wow they were like in Macedonia or some shit They're all these Propaganda farms and they what they would organize Conflicts like they had like a temperate Texas separatist group the day organized and they had them meet Right next to some Muslim group so they had a Muslim group across the street from the Texas separatist group Wow, they do it on purpose. They're all trying to
Starting point is 00:43:13 Initiate conflict and she was saying it was really funny because like like I'm a big fan of memes I think memes are the one of the more interesting forms of comedy that exists Like that you like you hear someone like every day my friends are sending me memes we're going back I become like sick with it lately it's the evolution of the street joke it's it's it is like that because it's like man who's writing these because they're some of them with the picture they're so funny look at this one this is like this only could exist in this form with a picture similar to this with this caption. When you nut fast and she cussing you out so you sit there like.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I mean, how funny is that? It's so funny. I mean, through this pandemic, I've been obsessed with memes i've been getting so many people send me funny memes so many of these like text message chains are funny memes yeah they're good they're good so many good pages some of them are restricted some of them are hard to find the pages yeah some of them are hard to find some of them are thieves oh well almost all of them are thieves yeah that's the thing it's thieves. Oh, well, almost all of them are thieves. Yeah. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:44:26 It's like, who is the guy? It's like the street joke, like you were saying. Yeah. Well, some people steal jokes, but some people just, they just, you know, there were kids that were like raised on this. Yes. And it's just how they think. They think in memes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:40 But it's a new form of comedy, right? Oh, definitely. Definitely. It's a new- Images with oh definitely definitely it's images with funny text that's what cartoons were though for uh in the 1800s right i guess yeah kind of yeah but part of the thing is that the photo is not supposed to be for that that's what's part of what's funny like all the greta thurnberg ones i have like a hundred of those yeah because it's because also too it's like it's cultural
Starting point is 00:45:05 in a way that cause like if you showed if you showed a Greta Thunberg meme to somebody in I don't know you know somewhere where they wouldn't know who she was right the joke would really it wouldn't really hit exactly it wouldn't make sense
Starting point is 00:45:21 it wouldn't make sense it's like the shared the memes are like this shared thing. Well, it has to be something that everybody understands, a thing, like who the person is or what the thing is. But you know what,
Starting point is 00:45:33 sometimes- Look at this one. We just had a fat line and you're waiting for your toilet test story. No, you, you, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:43 these, these, dude, I've had some that fucking, there was one where, No, you know, these are... Dude, I've had some that fucking... There was one where... I saw one where it was DMX. DMX's head on Professor X's body. And it was like, y'all gonna make me use my mind.
Starting point is 00:46:01 And I swear, I laughed at it like 50 times that that day joe you've become big in the golf meme community nice how did i get that they use you a lot nice multiple times really yeah i see them i mean i follow those around nice daily well someone who doesn't play golf i talk about golf a lot no so it's again they're not it's not we're talking about golf it's everything that's golf related and they like make it seem like golf. You were talking about how many specials you had one time, and you're counting them, like, I don't know, one, two, three, like that. You're counting them on your fingers, and the meme is like,
Starting point is 00:46:33 how many strokes did I get on that hole? I don't know, one, two, three. You know what? Sometimes some people just become, it's just a face they're making or something, and it's just a random person that doesn't have shit to do with shit. Yeah, always. And you see them later. Yep.
Starting point is 00:46:47 They do shit where they catch up with them. Oh, pushing one out in the pro shop bathroom 30 seconds before my tea time. That's hilarious. Send me that one. That one's funny. Yeah, there's some funny ones man it's just it's an interesting form of comedy and i bet a lot of it's created by people just sitting in the cubicle bored as fuck at work you know like how much work gets done at work for a
Starting point is 00:47:15 lot of people very little because a lot of people are online fucking around you read that book have you have you heard this book of bullshit jobs no i No. I forget who it's by, but he talks about that. There's so many jobs created in America that don't need to exist. Most of the time we spend looking busy because our job isn't important. It's not necessary at all, and we all know it deep down. If you're doing a job that's not necessary, you know it. And it fucks with your self-esteem and everything like most people aren't doing shit at work or they're going out of their way to not do you know to look like they're doing shit yeah well
Starting point is 00:47:52 if you don't have a job that requires you to do shit and you're just unsupervised and you don't even like your job and you have a fucking computer like how many people are posted on twitter all day while they're at work just checking twitter and posting it oh yeah constantly like if you have a phone at work and no one's watching you computer yeah people that play video games all night are supposed to be watching shit oh i'm sure but see you know what you know what part of the problem is is that we're in this new age of technology and efficiency, but we're still two generations back in terms of what work culture is. So it's not necessary for anybody to be in the office for eight hours. Right. to be in the office for eight hours. But there's all these old school owners and managers that are like, I need you
Starting point is 00:48:46 in the office for eight hours, even though we spent these last couple decades putting all this technology in the workplace that makes that not necessary. Well, definitely not if you are responsible and disciplined and you work at home. You get more done
Starting point is 00:49:01 because you don't have to commute. Yeah, and there's people who have employees now. They were forced to work from home during the pandemic they can do their job perfectly fine there's no reason to be in the office and their boss is still like yeah but i like having people in the office yeah there are people that are like that right yeah i guess it doesn't depend on what you're doing though there's some shit like you'd want to be like if you're on writing on a sitcom you got to be in the room right yeah it's certain jobs room it's certain jobs that require that. But it's like, accounts receivable?
Starting point is 00:49:28 That doesn't have to be in that building. No. Why would it? You could get everything done with a direct message. But there's this weird thing of like, I don't want you to get over. I'd rather you work four hours and me pay you the same, so maybe now I'm paying you 50 bucks an hour
Starting point is 00:49:44 or something, so your check's the same. I'd rather have you work half the hours and do your job efficiently than have you just sitting around for extra time for no reason. Don't you think a lot of people like being the leader of a team? Oh, yeah. I want all my team in the building. Yeah, but we've learned a long time ago, it's the difference between being a leader and being put in charge.
Starting point is 00:50:04 That's true, too, but maybe if you're not around people they don't get it like you know maybe that you they think like you gotta like absorb the ethic of this company you gotta be a hustling on the floor everybody's gotta the morale's gotta be high right now they have like those team building things where they go to hawaii, they all fucking snorkel and shit. Oh, yeah. You know, that's a big thing with a lot of these companies, team building. Yeah, we'll spend $100,000 on a fishing trip, but we won't give nobody a raise. But I think they think there's, like, a value to it. I think they've put, like, a psychological value on the idea that they can, like, give them something fun to do like i was in hawaii recently
Starting point is 00:50:47 i was in maui and uh there was a whole group like that a whole group of people that work for this company and they all had like stickers on their fucking shirts they're walking around in hawaii with a sticker on their shirt that says like hi i'm bob like that kind of shit because they have to and with like you know like whatever the logo the company was i'm like that is bizarre you're on a trip and you're on vacation with the people you work with but you got to wear a sticker it's nonsense you know what makes people happy i mean you know this right we all have miserable family and stuff people like people that have jobs that they hate people have jobs that they love and for me it's like look people need purpose they need a sense of purpose. And they need to feel like they're being fairly compensated.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Yeah. That's all. Fuck that trip. Fuck the pizza party. Every job I've ever hated, it's been, well, no, that's not true either. Because I was making good money at that job. Oh, no, but I didn't have a sense of purpose. I was like, I could teach a fucking monkey how to do this.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Yeah. Well, you're a guy that wants to do things, though. Some people don't want to do things like some people don't have ideas that they really want to implement they don't have like a dream that they want to chase they just want to work there's like different kinds of people yeah you're right you know yeah i knew it was a month i was in the service with a motherfucker like that i think and i forget his name off the top of my head but he was one of these motherfuckers that was like he was raised on a farm
Starting point is 00:52:12 like for real yeah and he just had to work every day like he it was like he's the only person i've ever met like this in my life where it's like you know it's lunch time and we got we got an hour and he spends 15 minutes eating his lunch standing up and then goes back to work he's one of those type of people that just loves to work. He doesn't, he feels like shit if he doesn't, you know, hard days working. I'm like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:28 he's built different than me. Yeah, some people like it almost like as a physical exercise activity. They like a hard day of work chucking hay at the farm. You know,
Starting point is 00:52:37 those motherfuckers are strong as shit too. they hard, man. Those people that throw hay around, shake hands with one of those dudes. Been doing this since they was a kid. I went to, Farmer strength.
Starting point is 00:52:46 When I was in college, I was hard up for money, and my roommate, his parents were looking for like, his parents were, they took care of animals. So they had like a small farm, you know, where they had like six cows, you know, like 40 dogs. It was one of those type of places. But he was a farm animal veterinarian his father but they had a little property and they wanted me so just so i could make a little extra money they pulled me out they pulled me over there to uh i was supposed to chop down uh weeds for them like it was it was these these crazy vines that like you have to fucking
Starting point is 00:53:21 beat them down with chains and chop them up you know what i mean yeah and i worked for these motherfuckers for one day and they were like we're good we're good we don't need you to come back you know because it was like no because the first day i bust my ass you know and they were like good job and the second day i was like i just i was like my body didn't have it i just didn't have anything left. And this dude told me, like, he grew up doing this. Yeah, but you got to build up to that. Yeah. Physical labor like that is like working out. It really is.
Starting point is 00:53:51 I had a summer that I worked building a construction ramp, like the wheelchair ramp, rather, for Knights of Columbus Hall. So for the whole summer, for, like, whatever length of time, I don't think I kept the job for a month. I had to carry cement bags and pressure-treated lumber the whole summer, for whatever length of time, I don't think I kept a job for a month, I had to carry cement bags and pressure-treated lumber the whole summer. So it was 100 degrees outside, whatever the fuck it was, 90 degrees outside, and I've got cement bags on my shoulder.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I'm hiking them up this fucking ramp and carrying pressure-treated lumber. And pressure-treated lumber is chemically treated lumber, and those splinters, you get infected, and they're fucking nasty. They hurt like hell. And so I'm constantly carrying it all summer long, and I realize, oh, I could get stuck here.
Starting point is 00:54:32 This could be my life. If you're a laborer and this is what you do from now on, this is your whole day every day. And I would get out of work, and I'd try to work out, and I had nothing. I had nothing. I'd try to hit the bag. I was like, eh, like, I was just exhausted. You can't just go right into that.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And I was in pretty good shape. You can't just go right into that. Yeah. That's work. You can't even wash your back. You just. And you can fuck things up too, man. That's how people fuck up their backs.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah. You don't have like the muscle stability in your core and you're lifting heavy shit all the time, all of a sudden you could yourself especially if you don't know how to do it right this will be tough hard labor man you know that is a rough way to make a life yeah it's up it's up there with fighting right or it's not no fighting's exciting if you win right if you're good you could it's a skill you could develop it you could you could you know be very clever you'd be like floyd mayweather you rarely get hit you reach the top of the top well you can do that in boxing you can't really do that
Starting point is 00:55:36 in mma like never get hit not well something's gonna happen yeah if you fight long enough something's gonna happen like every victory take a piece out of you. Some of them do, yeah. Well, that's the difference between Floyd and everybody else, in my opinion. When people talk about the best boxer ever, I'm like, man, it's hard to make an argument against Floyd Mayweather because he's the only guy that never really got fucked up. He only got hit hard like three or four times ever.
Starting point is 00:56:02 He got hit hard like three or four times ever. Yeah, and the thing is, you look at, he was in his prime for like longer than anybody else. Yeah. Yeah, he never really had a falling off period. No. He's the best at not getting hit. Yeah, and then people talk about how he, you know, everyone always made excuses about how, you know, oh, well, he fought somebody when they were young or whatever he fought he fought a dude when he was 40 floyd was 40 yeah and they're like oh
Starting point is 00:56:31 he's picking he's cherry picking like of course he is he's fighting well yeah he's 40 years old well not just that every boxer wants to do that it's a smart thing to do up until you get to a certain point and then you have to fight the other champions. But it's a smart way to maximize your money. It's a smart way to get more ring experience. And, you know, it's a smart way to keep defending your title. Like a lot of guys would rather fight a guy when he's slightly over the hill. And with Floyd and Manny Pacquiao, I think he was pretty clever. Because, look, Manny Pacquiao, when he was young, was a real problem.
Starting point is 00:57:04 His hand speed was spectacular. His cardio real problem. His hand speed was spectacular. His cardio was spectacular. His punching power was ridiculous. He was a real fucking problem. And Floyd played that nice and slow. Nice and slow. And then when he caught Manny, it was like Manny was, you know, he'd been knocked out by Barrera. He wasn't the same Manny anymore.
Starting point is 00:57:24 been knocked out by Barrera he wasn't the same Manny anymore and then he also lose to um who's his rival that Floyd Floyd beat Floyd made that boy look ordinary I can't remember his fucking name though wasn't that um who Oh Juan Manuel Marquez yeah Marquez yeah I said Barrera I meant Marquez I fucked that up um yeah Juan Manuel Marquez he knocked out Manny in the last fight. They had three fights together. Right. I think they split decisions, and then he knocked him out. I forget.
Starting point is 00:57:53 But anyway, Floyd just boxed the pants off of him. Yeah, he made him look real silly. Well, Floyd does that to everybody. Floyd did that to Canelo. Floyd does that to everybody. Yeah, and he fought young Canelo. Now, Canelo, not maybe not Canelo now. No, definitely not Canelo now.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Canelo learned from him. But I still believe he would beat him. I think so, too. It's hard now because Canelo's a tank now. He's so big. You'd have to get him down to a manageable weight because he was 152 when he fought Floyd. Floyd was very smart.
Starting point is 00:58:22 He made him cut down below the 154 limit because he knew he struggled even to get to 154 so Floyd made him cut an extra two pounds oh wow it was very sneaky yeah he knows all the little tricks what gloves to use of course all the above all the above he'll make sure you because he's had fragile hands in the past so he makes sure he uses like a more a glove that has a little more padding on the front. The same amount of weight, but a little bit more padding for his hands. Because there's gloves that are puncher's gloves, like
Starting point is 00:58:51 Clito Reyes, these Mexican gloves. They're like a firmer... There's more... The padding is not as smushy. And then other gloves are kind of smushy. They're the same weight, but they're not the same density. Maybe they're not made the same way. But they both have to fight
Starting point is 00:59:06 with the exact same gloves. Well, Floyd would negotiate that. Yeah. Floyd would make sure you fought with the gloves that he wanted you to fight with. Everything he did was to his advantage. The UFC doesn't do that, right? Everyone has to do the same.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Everyone has the same gloves. They fight with UFC certified and approved gloves. That's it. And they're not the best gloves. The best gloves the best gloves are made by trevor whitman trevor whitman is a guy his company's called onyx he makes the best bag gloves he makes the best shin and insta pads like the best material in terms of like the density
Starting point is 00:59:36 of the foam his stuff is the shit and he came up with his and he's a top flight coach he coached justin gaethje rose namayunas all right top kamaro usman top top flight coach. He coached Justin Gaethje, Rose Namajunas, Kamaru Usman, top, top flight coach. And he came up with this MMA glove that's way better. First of all, it curves the hand instead of extends. So you can't poke people. The eye pokes are not going to be as frequent. It makes your hand that naturally. Because some guys have said to me that when they're fighting, especially like you've gone a few rounds and your hands are tied, the gloves are actually almost trying to open your hand.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Like it takes an effort to close your fist. As opposed to like right now, there's no effort to close my fist. But with those gloves, you kind of have to make a little bit of an effort. And then also you have the padding of the, you know, the hand wraps and all that stuff. So it's kind of your hands almost want to extend. But Trevor's gloves are already turned over Like your hand is turned to a knuckle position naturally and then on top of that the density of the foam is way better I think it'll have way less handbrakes. So why why won't the UFC?
Starting point is 01:00:37 That's why I'm talking about it It's the best they're the best gloves. We should only have these gloves show I mean there was like some sort of a... They were trying to make a deal and they didn't do it. Is that his glove? Yeah, that's a white one. I have his other stuff. They're black. See if you can go to his website.
Starting point is 01:00:55 But that's a good... I do. Every time I go to the website, it really just has shown the boxing stuff. Well, his boxing stuff is awesome, too. His gloves are the shit. They're really, really good. But that glove that I have on my hand is way superior to any other glove that I've ever felt. The pride glove is pretty good, but I think that's better. And you could still grapple with it. You could still do everything with it.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I use his bag gloves, too. He's got fucking amazing, amazing stuff. Yeah, I guess, yeah, man, it's always money. It's always a money thing. Maybe. I don't know. Who the fuck knows? Maybe it's too expensive to build maybe I don't know who the fuck knows maybe it's too expensive to build I don't know it doesn't make any sense to me I just like you should we should use the best shit we're the best organization we use the best shit that's the best shit does anyone use the Whitman gloves I don't think so I mean Trevor's you know he's a
Starting point is 01:01:38 mad genius he figured it out I was like you want some coffee no no no I thought it was whiskey oh you want some whiskey? Oh, no, no, no. No? I thought it was whiskey. Oh, you want some whiskey? Yeah, yeah. We have whiskey. All you have to do is ask, sir. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can we get a glass and some ice? Glasses and some ice? Um, anyway, it's just, uh, Floyd was smart enough to decide everything in his favor. You know, I mean, he's just, he's just
Starting point is 01:01:57 clever as fuck. He always pretended he was gonna fight an MMA fight with Conor. We'll fight a boxing match first, then I'll fight you in your shit. Like, please. No way. No fucking way is he going to do that. That's a whole other world. Yeah, it's a whole other world. That's a different thing. Most boxers cannot compete with MMA fighters,
Starting point is 01:02:14 but a good, decent MMA striker can go a few rounds, as long as the guy is not a murderer like a Mike Tyson in his prime. Oh, right. They can go a few rounds. They're going to Oh, right. They can go a few rounds. They're going to be outclassed. They'll go a few rounds.
Starting point is 01:02:27 But a guy who doesn't do MMA, who fights an MMA fighter, you're getting fucked up. You're going to get your legs kicked out from under you quick. Yeah, you're going to get taken down. You're going to get choked out. The big thing is leg kicks. That's the big one. Because even if the guy's a striker but he's a leg kicker,
Starting point is 01:02:43 they can kick you from a distance, man. You can't get close enough to punch them, and they're kicking your calves out from under you. They're kicking your thighs apart. You can't move on them right anymore. You're trying to salute my brother. Salute. Always good to see you.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Same, bro. I'm very excited about this weekend. Oh, you know, it's funny you bring up the lick because I was just watching Izzy and John Jones highlights before on the way here. Is he in John Jones? Yeah, just watching their highlights Oh, yeah, not against each other, but just watching how cuz they are the mat They're the masters of distance distance Yeah, and they're in there fuck cuz well, you know, I think John Jones has a little more, like, violent intention behind, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:27 Because he's a little more of a psycho, you know? Interesting. Because when you watch, I'm talking about, like, the dominant, dominant Jon Jones. He would hit motherfuckers, like, he didn't care if the hit killed you, you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah, like when he stopped Daniel Cormier. Yeah, and some people don't have that. They don't have that killer instinct where it's like, I don't care what this does.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Izzy's got that, too, though. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Izzy's got that. Izzy is— Izzy's just the most sophisticated of the strikers. If you watch striking, if you're a person who likes striking and you like setups and stuff what he is doing something very different because he's getting guys to move a certain way he's reading you like you see when Izzy's moving around he's reading you yeah he's seeing if he can
Starting point is 01:04:13 come forward the right hand he's seeing if you're looking at that right hand he kicks your leg he's gonna move out of the range of your power and he's like he's thinking in 4d yes he's he's downloading all your data And he can see like weaknesses in people like a great examples Paulo Costa Paulo Costa steamrolled everybody He was just smashing people. He's a giant dude. They called him the eraser He would just move forward and just fucking and is he just picked him apart He made him look made him look foolish And by the end of the first round you could see he was baffled like he was fucked Because he knew like I can't hit this dude, and he's standing right in front of me
Starting point is 01:04:48 And he would he would swing it Izzy And you know Izzy would be just out of range and then he make him pay just out of range make him pay and then after He stopped him he humped him. Yeah, you know um you know what you know what where I learned a lot But I watched those you see that do you see that after he stopped him he humps him watch this yeah cause he was
Starting point is 01:05:09 talking all that shit yeah he was talking all that shit but watch this one two that's why I love Izzy man
Starting point is 01:05:17 cause he don't play that shit well he's just so slick man if you like for a guy like me who's been interested in striking
Starting point is 01:05:24 his whole life like seeing a guy like this who's been interested in striking his whole life like seeing a guy like this that was a top flight kickboxer make his way into MMA I reached out to Izzy before he ever fought in the UFC I saw him fight in uh in kickboxing matches and I reached out to him on Instagram like way back in the day and he was telling me that he's taking some fights in China and he's like he's kind of come to the UFC but he's gonna do it the right way he did it the right way he was smart like some guys jump in but they don't have a ground game yet they jump in they don't have defense yet but they just feel like oh I'm gonna learn a few things I'm just gonna use my kickboxing then you fight some fucking
Starting point is 01:05:56 wrestler some dude who hits you with that power double and boom and you feel that weight and pressure like oh shit I don't know how to handle this yeah a lot of guys get fucked up that way you run into a khabib exactly you run into you run into some dagestani assassin and you're fucked but is he did it the right way well i i i watch um i like watching the um you you know the the morning combat guys yes yeah luke thomas and who's the other dude luke's been on the podcast before he's got that that dude with him. So he made me understand just how much on another level is he is from everybody else. Because he breaks it. He'll have a two, three hour video where he's like telling you.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Brian Campbell. Yeah, Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell. Yeah, they broke it down one time. And I was like, oh, wow, this motherfucker is. Because I'm not a big. I don't have the experience in fighting that you have right so i was like there needs to be a john madden of mma you know yeah and maybe because at first i mean i always liked watching izzy but i didn't i didn't get the chess match that he's playing yeah that other
Starting point is 01:06:59 people just aren't they're not even aware that there's a there's another game being played other than that other than swinging and kicking right he he's on some other shit man well he the way he describes it is like a lot of people are just button smashers like if you're playing a game trying to make something happen he's like he's setting things up he's setting things up and there's other guys that set things up and that's one of the things that makes this weekend so interesting is because he's on the same card as Alex Pereira. And Alex Pereira is— Beat him. He knocked him out.
Starting point is 01:07:31 He KO'd him with a left hook in a kickboxing match. And he beat him once by unanimous decision, and then the rematch he KO'd Yazeed. And he's only fought twice in the UFC, but he's won both fights, and now he's fighting the No. 4 number four ranked Sean Strickland this weekend. It's very interesting because they're basically trying to fast track him into a fight with Izzy. I'm sorry, man. You know what? You got to show me somebody to beat him.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Well, let me show you somebody. I'm not saying that he could beat him, but Alex Pereira is one of the scariest fucking strikers on planet Earth. He's this dude from Brazil. He's a bad motherfucker. And this is when he fought Izzy. I think this is, I don't know if this is the first fight
Starting point is 01:08:16 or the second fight, but it was a real good fight back and forth. But then this. Oh, wow. Yeah, I mean, he's got that kind of power. But go to Alex Pereira's highlights. That said, the Izzy from back then is not the Izzy of today. He's way better now, way better now.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Alex Pereira, who was primarily a kickboxer, two-division world champion in glory, now he's made his way over to MMA, and he's just so...'s we were seeing that one here is this dude fucks people up and these are with big gloves on he's one of the most vicious knockout artists in glory history like unusual power like almost everybody gets starched and the dude's crazy durable, too. Like, he gets into wars with people. Can they not throw kicks?
Starting point is 01:09:10 Oh, they can, but he's, yeah. I mean, he's got kick knockouts, too, but there's a left-hand that KO'd Dustin Jacoby. I mean, he's a bad motherfucker. Look at that. Look at that left hook. Answer me this, Joe. Dude. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Answer me this, Joe. Dude. What changes, besides the obvious, from the boxing ring to the octagon? More room for sure. Okay. No corners. So cutting off people is different. Cutting off people in a boxing ring is a little more room for, like, you can box someone into a corner, you know?
Starting point is 01:09:46 Okay. Like, see, like, he moves, like, you have an angle, right? Well, with the octagon, it's a little bit easier to move around the edges, but even maybe more importantly, there's a lot more space to fight in. Like, they're a lot bigger than this. So you got the octagon, a lot of, you know, you got a lot of you know you got a lot of mu room for shit there's a lot of uh let's take the smaller octagon is like uh what they use the apex center which is really interesting because you see like heavyweights in that like when francis and gano fought stipe miocic when he won the title it was in the little octagon and i'm like man stipe's gonna have a hard time
Starting point is 01:10:20 getting the fuck away from him in that little octagon because it's quite a bit smaller. How much littler? So look at the difference. So the UFC's octagon sides. So it's 750 square feet to 400 square feet. And that's just a normal boxing ring. Boxing rings vary, which is interesting. Like sometimes they're a little bigger and smaller.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Like sometimes for a fight, they'll make a smaller ring to favor like a slugger or they'll make a bigger ring to favor a boxer like they'll put that in the contract like i want a 28 foot ring like they'll they'll come up with shit that they can put in the contract why did the ufc decide to go with a why do they have two different sizes it's a good question the smaller one is because the smaller venue the uh the octagon that they have in the Apex is smaller. See, the smaller one is 48 meters and the other one is 69 meters square. So it's 20% wider and 44% larger, the full-size octagon is. So when they use the small one, like for big guys like Ngannou, man, like there's nowhere to run.
Starting point is 01:11:24 In a small ring a boxing ring with a slugger that's kind of the same thing can the fighters request that with the size or do they have to agree and the may fighters no no there's no unless you say i'm never fighting in the apex center if you make that a part of your contract you never have to fight in the apex center but what if there's going to be a world championship fight like they had world championship fights in the apex center during the pandemic yeah and i'd imagine you know i'd imagine telling dana white that there's certain shit you ain't gonna do that's not gonna fly no they've got a solid organization it's um it's it's a crazy fucking sport man it really is it's a crazy sport and when you see a guy like izzy that's so dominant and so
Starting point is 01:12:03 good and so clever you want to see a guy like Izzy that's so dominant and so good and so clever, you want to see a guy like Alex Pereira. That's the guy that tests him. But the dude he's fighting, this guy Sean Strickland, is a bad motherfucker. He's no joke. He's a tough, tough dude, and he's been beating everybody at 185 pounds. I thought Izzy was fighting Kenanier. No, Izzy is. Oh, Pereira is fighting Sean Strickland.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Alex Pereira is fighting Sean Strickland, and Sean Strickland is very dangerous. He's the number four contender. He's very good. And he also has a solid ground game, too. And if he gets Pereira down on the ground, he has the potential to submit him. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Can you pull up the card?
Starting point is 01:12:38 It's a solid card. I'm also excited about... Max Holloway and Volkanovski. Oh, dude. That's going to be wild. That's going to be wild. That is going to be wild. Those guys are so razor close. The card is fantastic.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Look at this. Oh, fuck. Just the final three fights. Just those four fights right there. Barbarina versus Robbie Lawler before that. But those fights, like that dude, Sean Strickland, he's a dangerous motherfucker. Didn't somebody just cancel?
Starting point is 01:13:04 Sean O'Malley and Pedro Munoz? No, was it Holly Holmes? No, Misha Tate. Oh, Misha Tate. Yeah, so this is a fantastic card. They're going to start off with Pedro Munoz and Sean O'Malley, motherfucker. That's a great fight, too. I can't believe that's the beginning.
Starting point is 01:13:20 That's the beginning. That's the first fight on the card in the pay-per-view. Sean O'Malley only has one loss? Yeah, Chido Vera. Then he broke something, right? Well, he kicked him in his calf, and his calf went numb. His toe, apparently, according to Sean, dug right into the nerve of his calf. It just felt like a freak thing, and his calf stopped working.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Oh, wow. He still claims he's undefeated, right? Yeah, well, he's hilarious. Yeah knows he knows what's up man yeah i mean cheeto vera is a bad motherfucker see but it's the part of his marketing because you know what i'm realizing too about about this shit is like it's just like show business where it's like there's more to it than just the talent yeah for sure some people don't realize that you also it's a show the more entertaining you are yeah you know that's part of it like i hear chel so they talk about all the time it's like how you know that that 30 seconds after like when when you're interviewing people
Starting point is 01:14:15 in the ring it's like some of them don't realize like you need to be calling out the next guy all of that shit matters you know how good you are on the mic like michael chandler's fantastic he's amazing he's amazing yeah it's like you can't be afraid to be controversial All of that shit matters, you know? How good you are on the mic. Like, Michael Chandler's fantastic on the mic. He's amazing. He's amazing. Yeah. It's like, you can't be afraid to be controversial. Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:14:30 He obviously has, like, things ready. Yeah, because take Cody, for example. I mean, not Cody. What the fuck am I talking about? Just had a rivalry with Usman. Kobe. Kobe Covington. Colby Covington. Colby Covington.
Starting point is 01:14:47 I mean, even though he's still one of the best guys in the world, but he talked his way into fighting for a title. Well, he talked his way into this pro-wrestling heel type character that people want to see lose but want to see fight. Yeah, I love it. Floyd did that too. Floyd was very smart with that whole Money Mayweather thing. He got people angry at him. character that people want to see lose but want to see fight yeah i love it did that too floyd was very smart with that whole money mayweather thing like he got people angry at him like they wanted
Starting point is 01:15:09 to see him lose yep like how many people buy floyd mayweather pay-per-views just because they want to see him lose probably more than half it's a lot yeah it's like people that hate that hate listen to uh howard stern oh yeah back in the day right yeah? Yeah. Movie Private Parts, we talked about that. Yeah, there's a lot of people who hate listening. Well, now he's completely different. It's weird, right? It is a little strange
Starting point is 01:15:32 because I don't listen every day, but then I come back and listen and I'm like, oh, this isn't. Yeah, he's a different guy now. Yeah, well, I guess that's, I don't hold that against nobody. Yeah, if you want to change, I mean, you are who you are.
Starting point is 01:15:44 That's growth. It's, you are who you are. That's growth. It's better to be who you are than to have to live up to some old version of yourself. Yeah, because I think some people think their fans expect that of them. Yeah. You know? Well, I mean, some people are captured by their fans. Some people that are who they are. But it works.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Like, oh, here's a person. You know how people always give them burnt shit about taking his shirt off? Yes. I say, keep taking your shirt off, big man. Who gives him shit? Why do they care? Just other comics talk shit because it's not comedy. Right, but why would anybody care?
Starting point is 01:16:20 Joe, I was just on his Fully Loaded Tour with him And I'm telling you It's It's fucking amazing He has He can do two things That other comics Can't really do He has that pop Cause the audience
Starting point is 01:16:32 Wants They wanna see it Right Right So the moment When he takes When he takes off his shirt It's
Starting point is 01:16:39 It's something that the fans They just lose their fucking mind And he can do So I Look I was with him In um I was with him in, I was with him, we were in Lawrenceville, Georgia. And his wife and kids came.
Starting point is 01:16:53 And his kids have never seen him perform. Oh, wow. They weren't interested, and him and his wife had agreed, like not till they, they couldn't hear the Machine story till they were of age, whatever. So his daughters are there. He brings them on stage to tell the machine story. And so this is another thing that I realized. He's taken a superpower from musicians because we don't get to repeat shit.
Starting point is 01:17:17 He can tell the machine story whenever the fuck he wants. He's running with flip-flops on to go do comedy. Yeah, man. He's got flip-flops on. Look at that. Who the fuck does stand's running with flip-flops on to go do comedy. Yeah, man. He's got flip-flops on. Look at that. Who the fuck does stand up in flip-flops? For real. And those are his brand of flip-flops.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Who the fuck does stand up in flip-flops other than Burt Kreischer? Yeah. In fact, he gave... I have a pair of Burt Kreischer flip-flops on right now. Look at this motherfucker. Yeah, this moment. Watch them fucking lose it.
Starting point is 01:17:51 So he's going to take his shirt off. Look at this. They're all standing up with their arms in the air. Yeah. How many guys in the audience take their shirts off in unison? Oh, it happens all the time. In solidarity. And here's the other thing.
Starting point is 01:18:08 At any point, he can go, when I was 22 years old, I got involved in the restaurant. And people, it's a story they've heard a hundred times. And they still, tell us. Tell us, bird, please. They know the story. But it's like, he can tell it whenever he wants. You know, he told that story here for the very first time. Really? And I told him to tell it on stage oh yeah okay during a podcast when was that
Starting point is 01:18:39 2003 12 yeah 11 why that's not that long ago not that long ago wow yeah yeah it's a good story that was back when burt was still on the travel Channel. He had to watch his P's and Q's on the Travel Channel. We got him to quit. Yeah. He was in this great job, but if he wasn't as hilarious as he is, it would be a great job. But it's like, I know you're good at that. I know you're having a good time with that. I know you're making money with that, but you'd be way better just being a stand-up. You're a funny dude, and you're not doing it enough because you're off doing all this other stuff.
Starting point is 01:19:06 And he's like, fuck, you're right. Yeah, that was good advice. Well, I knew it. I just knew it. And he's also a hustler. Like, Burt hustles. It's not just that he's... Yeah, he's a sneaky genius
Starting point is 01:19:17 in the way that, like, he can walk into a room and go, oh, that would be a good shot. That's good promo. Do it this way. Make it that color. You know, like he just knows how to. And he's constantly promoting.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Constantly. Yeah, constantly. Yeah. It's also funny. He's a funny dude. He's funny. He's hilarious on podcasts. Dude, he took us.
Starting point is 01:19:36 The Philly Lotus was fun as hell. He took us. So we did a show at the Bristol Speedway in Bristol, Tennessee. So the show was on the drag track, so the Bristol Dragway, I think it's called. But right next to it is the NASCAR track. And they put us in this pace car and fucking- How fast were you going? I think we peaked out at 122 or something like that.
Starting point is 01:20:05 And it's a real short track, like a half a mile. Oh, you're in a fucking regular car with no roof. Fuck that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's a pace car. That's a pace car, yeah. Oh, Jesus. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Dude, I do not appreciate this. Not in a convertible. Yeah, dude, he gets like inches from the wall. Fuck that, dude. That in a convertible. Yeah, dude, he gets, like, inches from the wall. Fuck that, dude. That's a convertible. That flips. No more Brian Simpson. See, at this point, so not yet, but when we're up near the top, that's three stories above, like, right here.
Starting point is 01:20:39 That's three stories above everybody else. Really? Yeah. It's crazy to think, because the car's almost sideways. Oh, wow. Yeah. No shit. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:20:49 You got to do that fast. No, he said that, no, the pros, their average, the pros are going into those turns at 155, 30 miles an hour faster than what we were doing. But it's a different kind of car. It's a different kind of car, yeah. Yeah, the car's set up to go one way. Yeah. Set up to take a left turn.
Starting point is 01:21:07 Speed. Yeah. Yeah. It's an oddly American sport. Yeah, and you know what? It's one of those things that, like, I'd never really appreciated until I did that. It's fucking hard.
Starting point is 01:21:18 It's hard. I know that I couldn't. But isn't it oddly American that it's just so simple? Just go around in a circle? Yeah. You know, like, the Europeans, they're into Formula One. They're not into NASCAR. That's an oddly American pastime.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Am I correct about that? I don't think, is NASCAR? Exactly correct, but. The Europeans, they want turns. They want, like, strategy. And they're into that fucking other shit with the boxcars or not boxcars. What do you call it? Like the Grand Prix. Rally.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Rally. Oh, when they go in the dirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are wild. They're into that shit too. Those are weird when you got the guy next to you and he's reading off of a notebook because he's got to tell you right in 20, left in 30, I guess. It's like he knows the course.
Starting point is 01:22:02 You need a co-pilot. Yeah, because you need to know when to brake to hit a turn and how hard the turn is. That's insane. I don't think they get a chance to run it before they do it, do they? I don't know. I don't know. Because I would think part of whether or not you could win it would be you figuring out the course.
Starting point is 01:22:20 That would be part of the fun of it. Because you're on the dirt in a four-wheel or an off-road Porsche porsche you know what i'm shocked isn't more popular here is that uh that jim connor shit you ever watch that what's jim connor it's like and i might be pronouncing it wrong but it's like that it's like it's so it's they're racing but they're they're they're sliding and around shit and oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it's like a drifting thing yeah ken block yeah ken block does a lot of this shit but it's like it's like this shit is so dangerous well he's a wizard at that shit he's unbelievable and these cars that he has built they're special built for that look they're shutting streets down so he can do this. I mean, this is not like a normal scenario where he's just driving.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Look at that fucking car. And he's coming within inches of. Yeah, look at him. Give me some volume on this. That car sounds fucking crazy. So there's people that are here. Sitting there while he's doing that. Yep.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Oh, these are just carts. There's no people in there. Oh, he hit it. Yeah, wow. I don't think I've ever seen him hit it either. Look at that fucking car, man. My God, that thing's amazing. Can you tell what it is?
Starting point is 01:23:39 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a 65 Mustang. See if I'm right. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a 65 Mustang. See if I'm right. Goddamn, look at that thing. That guy's out of his fucking mind. Look how close he's getting to these poles. I think that car has something like a thousand horsepower.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Look at the engine poking out of the hood. This is insane. All right. That's some Need for Speed type shit. That's the real Fast and the Furious. What year is that car? I'm going to check. Yeah, that guy.
Starting point is 01:24:22 But that's not a normal driver. No, no. I mean, he's the best. I mean, I think they have competitions. I think he's like the best in the world. You're right. 65? 65 Mustang. That thing's the shit.
Starting point is 01:24:33 That's a beautiful shape. Look at that. God damn. You know, that car when it first came out was like a secretary's car. What? Yeah. Yeah, you look at the old photos of people standing in front of Mustangs. It's like a lady's car.
Starting point is 01:24:48 And then somewhere along the line, it became this beast of a car by 1969. By 1969, they have the Shelby GT500. They have these. See, look at that. Presenting the unexpected, The new Ford Mustang. There's a lady. It's like a pink. It's almost like an off-white pinkish.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Maybe that's just. Tiffany pink. Is it? It got a Tiffany Award for Excellence, it says. Yeah, look at that. Tiffany Award for Excellence. This is the car never. But that was what it used to look like.
Starting point is 01:25:18 And then as time went on, they started getting more and more rugged. If you look at an old, like not a fastbackback but an old 65 Mustang yeah a little boring a little boring compared to other things in 1965 with the Corvette that was a sport they sold a million Mustangs damn millionth Mustang sale so I wonder what year of that is that's by the time they figured out the fastback it's all 65 okay so look up see how they got the fastback? Go scroll up. Make that smaller. Make that smaller.
Starting point is 01:25:46 There. See the top one? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a different shape. So the top one, they figured out how to make it slicker looking. Look at this. They slide the back out. They make the back window instead of like make it a longer angle.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Imagine being the first dude to like know and pull up and they were like, oh, wow, you driving your little sister's car or whatever. You just smoked the shit out of everybody. Yeah. and pull up and they were like oh wow you're driving your little sister's car or whatever you just smoked the shit out of everybody yeah and so then they um went to like more and more impressive ones now go to 1969 mustang that's the one that john wick had 1969 yeah you want it like a fucking good one. Like that one there on the left, the one that's kind of purplish. Yeah, that's what a 1969 Mach 1 looks like.
Starting point is 01:26:32 So this is a commercial from 1969. See, this is a totally different vibe. So by this time, the Mustang became a badass muscle car with a hood scoop. Mach 1. Look at that thing. Fuck yeah. Like it's not for hoes anymore. America.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Fuck yeah. Look at that car. That's a dope car. Look at that thing. God damn. Mach 1. Special sports performance. Sports roof. Mustang. In 1969, your dick would be fully hard. Mach 1. Special sports performance. Sports roof.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Mustang. In 1969, your dick would be fully hard. Oh, yeah. You'd be like, what is that? What are they? Google. You pull up a minute. There's a company that redoes them today.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Like they. Custom recreations. They restore them or they just build them? They redo them. They make a whole new one from the bottom up, and they make a Mach 1. Classic restorations. They're not allowed to put the Mustang logo on there? No, it is technically a Mustang, but they make it from scratch.
Starting point is 01:27:39 I think they use the fucking front beam that holds the speedometer together. They're like, yeah, we got the fucking front beam that holds the speedometer together they like you get the fucking original part oh yeah like one original part and then they put together this like spectacular is it classic recreation I'm trying I mean it's classic recreation yeah so these guys have figured out how to make look at that that's the hit man because it the Hitman? That's the Hitman because of John Wick. So that's the exact replica of the car John Wick had in the movie, but way better. Like that movie, this car has like a coyote Mustang engine,
Starting point is 01:28:14 like fat tires, wicked suspension. But they recreate these like old classic cars, but they make them in cars with like killer brakes, suspension and they just look so fucking damn look how dope that thing looks I mean come the fuck on that's one thing American nailed in the 1960s they nailed the muscle car God they nailed it to this day all these years later there's still some of the best looking cars ever i mean one thing we are we really really excel at is for lack of a better term is a is the badass aesthetic yes we know we have a term we have the coolest uniforms we have
Starting point is 01:28:59 the cool like if you tell america make something look cool because we're we're great at how things look yeah that's our whole thing you know our whole thing how things are is a whole nother story but we we have some fucked up shit but it'll look good but we have freedom we have the freedom to come up with fucked up shit oh yeah yeah so less freedom less freedom than before in terms of uh i think what we're worried about is that and what i I'm saying by less freedom, I mean, we have more freedom for sure, but they're controlled by like social media companies. Like your freedom of expression is kind of controlled now. I was just arguing with my producer about this. We have more freedom because there's more options for places to do.
Starting point is 01:29:37 But if you really want to be and get your word out there, you kind of have to be on YouTube. You kind of have to be on Twitter. You kind of have to be on Instagram. You kind of have to be on youtube you kind of have to be on twitter you kind of have to be on instagram you kind of have to be on facebook all the other ones are like rumble or fucking parlor or i'm sure they're good but it's not the big ones no one's there right so we have more freedom but we're also dealing with like jordan peterson got suspended from twitter today suspended suspended for twitter for some sort of a. I felt like he was trying to get suspended because he was saying some wild shit for the last six
Starting point is 01:30:09 months or something. Well, I think he's a sensitive fella. I don't understand why really smart people want to get into entanglements online like that. These exchanges and antagonistic things. He's making points, but like one of them,
Starting point is 01:30:28 like here's one of them that I disagreed with, and I love Jordan. Let me just preface that. He's a wonderful person. I love him as a human being. I really do. I like him a lot, and I respect him. I think he's a brilliant man.
Starting point is 01:30:38 I don't always agree with him. And here he was like talking about this cover of Sports Illustrated, and there was a girl on the cover of Sports Illustrated that's large. She's a bikini model, but she's a large bikini model. Like how large are you talking? She's not small. Okay. But she's very pretty.
Starting point is 01:30:55 And he says, I'm sorry, not beautiful. He puts that in a tweet. Okay, aren't you busy? See, that's the thing is i feel like he's kind of fallen victim to to something that he was used to be against and it's like what's that because you don't have to put because i feel like i feel like our generation forgets that like you you can't fight every battle you have limited mental and emotional resources. And so you don't have to put energy in it.
Starting point is 01:31:28 You don't have to put so much energy in the things that you that you hate or disagree with. Right. You put most of your energy into things that you support. Yes. Right. So it's like there's no because nothing comes out of you saying that. That's very wise. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:31:40 You should call him. Well, I don't have the I don't I don't have the I don't know if I'm ready to argue with a man like that. Yeah, you are. What you just said, what you just said is correct. It's not that he's incorrect that he does not find that overweight woman attractive. The problem is not that. The problem is expressing it in this way where you say, like, matter of fact, not beautiful. You know, you could say, hey, I don't prefer women that are morbidly obese.
Starting point is 01:32:11 That's not my thing. You could say that. But I like to say not beautiful. Like, okay. And I already know that about him, right? But my point is somebody of his intellect, I feel like it's already enough people online going this bitch is fat or she ain't it's like I don't need that
Starting point is 01:32:30 from you I need the higher thoughts that only you're capable of producing that's a good point I don't need you calling bitches fat on Twitter I think he's trying to push back against the woke narrative and he thinks the woke narrative that like fat shaming is bad and you're not supposed to look at things for what they really are but look at things through the
Starting point is 01:32:47 cultural lens of wokeness where you kind of pretend things are different and men can get pregnant but that's what we were talking about earlier right where it's like that's you getting that's you getting and i'm not i'm not judging him for it we all it happens to the best of us but that's you getting caught up in trying to win win the battle and lose side of the war well here's also the problem that girl is beautiful she's beautiful like look at her face like show a picture of her face she's fucking beautiful she's beautiful she's beautiful and she's not huge no she's not morbidly obese but he's saying i said morbidly obese but i wasn't really talking about her i was i was really like he's saying she shouldn't be on the cover of the
Starting point is 01:33:24 swimsuit issue It was right. There's another woman. There's like different levels of women He says sorry not beautiful and no amount of authoritarian tolerance is going to change that like she's definitely beautiful She's just overweight, but there's another girl that's in the same magazine You don't show it. That's a lot bigger and then there's other when ones online that are bigger it's like there's there's this thing to have like overweight models and some people get angry at it and i that out of all the things that people push back against that's the one that's weird to me i like it when a comic does it's funny if you got something funny it's a funny's a funny premise. Like Christina P, she's got a fucking funny, funny bit about it.
Starting point is 01:34:08 But there's also, like, who cares? Yeah. Also, there's mad dudes that love chicks that's hot. For sure. Yeah. For sure. Skinny guys look like they do heroin. But it's also like, again, you're one of the world's premier intellectuals. And it's like, I don't need that from you.
Starting point is 01:34:26 I don't know. I don't know either. It's like, if I got a chance to talk to Neil deGrasse Tyson, I'm not going to be like, hey, do you think this girl is fat? You know what I'm saying? Yes, exactly. So that's weird to me. You don't want to ask him about that.
Starting point is 01:34:39 You want to ask him about the cosmos, right? You want to ask him about what he knows about and that he's passionate about. It's him pushing back against the woke narrative. And I think you're right. And I think part of the problem is guys like him, they read Twitter and they read YouTube comments. And I don't think that shit's healthy for you.
Starting point is 01:34:58 And I think when you do that- He didn't need to be so emotional. Right. Well, I think also that was part of him getting off the benzodiazepine. That was a real problem. Right. Well, I think also that was part of him getting off the benzodiazepine. That was a real problem. Like he was hooked on that stuff and he had to go through a serious detox and it really fucked him up.
Starting point is 01:35:12 And he talks very openly about it. It was very like physically difficult for him to get off of that. So maybe that made him more emotional. Or maybe it's just like the weight of stardom and criticism at, you know. He hasn't been only eating meat for a long time, right? Like maybe somebody slipped him a crouton. And he's like, he just went the fuck off. Slipped him a crouton. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Maybe that's all it takes. Well, he was talking once on the podcast about he got a hold of, what is it, like apple cider vinegar or something like that? He drank it and he was sick for a month or something. God. It's something weird like that. He's just, he's a fascinating guy. And he's a super smart guy. And I think a lot of super
Starting point is 01:35:46 smart fascinating people they can they could be right and they can be wrong they can go down uncomfortable bad road like maybe unnecessary roads and then they can go down righteous roads and it's like this kind of the same energy that brings them into both places just like riffing you know sometimes you riff on an idea and it just doesn't work but but that's the you know it's like that's one of the reasons i always were you know i'm what i respected about him is the same thing i respect about sam harris and dillard grass tyson and meet your kaku and all these people it's like the the people that are truly intelligent in that way yes there's a calmness about them because there's a certainty
Starting point is 01:36:25 in their knowledge that brings about this calmness like you ever watch Sam Harris Sam Harris would go to fucking I disagree with a lot of shit he says but he'll go to a fucking synagogue and debate the rabbi in front of the flock
Starting point is 01:36:40 no Sam Harris fans there and it's like never raise his voice never have a condescending tone. He's the best at that. He's the very best at that. And Jordan Peterson used to be like that. Yeah. He would keep his cool because he was 100% certain in what he was saying.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Sam, I don't think he even uses Twitter anymore in the sense that I think he has it deleted from his phone. I think he only checks it every now and then and puts stuff up there. I think that is a definite thing that people do where they get involved in conflict and criticisms of them, and they respond to the criticisms, and they get angry, and his articles read about him like Jordan will like tweet An article that's bad about him and like respond to the writer of the article But it's also like he became famous as a professor when he was in his late 40s. That's when he became famous
Starting point is 01:37:37 It's like it's not like something he sought out right so it's a weird little sort of situation He finds himself in I'm awesome, I'm not nearly as famous as any of them, but my rule is the first 10 hours. After I post something for the first 10 hours, I like, share, I might reply positively, and then I ignore it. That's smart. You know, it's like people, if you write me something, it's like I try to read everything people write to me but i'm not i don't have time to go back and forth with people it's not a good tool for mentally ill people and there's a lot of people in our profession that are mentally ill and they fixate on the comments and they fixate on on debates and like i see people in the comments like going back and forth with their
Starting point is 01:38:19 fans arguing with them about stuff i'm like yo like this is not a good thing for you this is not healthy for you This is not healthy for you. It's not healthy for your psychology. You should be out there just thinking about life and living life and do your best. But you don't want to be detached from people, but you also don't want to do that because you're always in conflict. You don't want to always be in conflict. You want to be in conflict as least often as possible unless it's really important. That's not really important. No. That's not a thing to, I understand that he's pushing back against this idea that models can be overweight, but like, let the fucking market decide.
Starting point is 01:38:54 With that, like, what are they selling? It's a fucking magazine, okay? If nobody likes that because they're doing that, then people buy less magazines and then they change course. These motherfuckers lick their finger. Like, which way is the wind blowing? It's going woke. We're going woke, too.
Starting point is 01:39:09 They'll put fucking rainbows over Big Macs and tell you this is a pride Mac. Well, woke has been, like, perverted now. Because it was cool when the term first came out. Yes. It was like you're awake. Yeah, yeah. You're not asleep. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:39:23 But now it's like Woodstock. It's like when it awake. Yeah, yeah. You're not asleep. Exactly. But now it's like Woodstock. Right. It's like when it first came out, it was organic. It was a thing. And now it's commercialized and corporatized. Yeah. You know, now brands are woke. Right.
Starting point is 01:39:37 You know, maybe Ben and Jerry does give a fuck about social justice or whatever. I think they do. Yeah. I think those guys are I think they do. Yeah. I think those guys are old school hippies. Yeah, but like, or maybe Wendy's or, you know, whoever, but probably not. Most of these brands don't. A lot of them are doing it because they feel like they're compelled to do that by the market, too. They feel like people will complain if they don't take a stance on social justice.
Starting point is 01:40:01 You know, if they don't do a thing. And it's basically what that dude was talking about. Right. Exactly what that Russian cat was talking about. That is exactly what's going on. Where people feel... You're compelling speech. It's not even a real political stance.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Right. It's you trying to fit in. It's compliance. Compliance, okay. It's compliance with the ideology. And if you don't comply they'll attack you and they try to take you out or they try to dismiss you or they'll try to get people to boycott your company or they'll you know they'll come after you in some sort of way
Starting point is 01:40:36 that hurts your bottom line trying to get you to force compliance it's trying to get you to be more woke like these people that complain about certain corporations not taking stands on social justice People like sell things like what why if all your business is is selling things Why do you have to take a stance on social justice issues? Is that really important or is it important to the individuals? Well, you know for me It doesn't matter because the stance you're taking is just something you're saying well here's the bottom line of all of it most of it's done on objects that are made by slaves right that's the reality yeah phones it's like we uh you and i are debating like iphone versus android find the fucking dude who's pulling the minerals out of the ground to make those things with a
Starting point is 01:41:25 stick in the congo and you go whoa what are we serving because that's what they're not saying when they're like there's a chip shortage yeah you're like well where was where was the point with a shortage oh because most of our slaves died from covet you know is that what it was well i don't think i don't think it's that all of them died but it it definitely, they were the last ones to get treatment, for sure. It's a supply chain thing that affected everything during COVID. I think it was a lot of it is just, you remember all those shipping containers were all fucked? There's like hundreds of thousands of them out at sea, couldn't come in, no one to take the cargo off. And I remember there was a boat clogging a canal or something.
Starting point is 01:42:03 Sort of big ass ship that like turned sideways i might be i think yeah i think it's oh yeah it got stuck in like the the suez no not the suez how'd they get that fucking thing out it took a long time to turn it around jesus christ yeah well just imagine how many problems there have when all the workers stop working for months and months and months if not a year and that's what a lot of what happened yeah i mean it's guaranteed to fuck something up the system was like pretty smooth before that but then we realized like hey we need to get our chips from other countries why don't we have our fucking chips here because they couldn't make cars for a while there was a car shortage in america still is you know i still don't have a car really for this very reason
Starting point is 01:42:41 yeah because the the dealers are charging you charging five to seven grand over the sticker price. Wow. And in my whole life, I've never seen anybody pay the sticker price for a car. Used cars. Yeah, used cars were expensive. Used cars are very expensive, especially Toyotas and Lexuses, shit that never breaks. Yeah, they're saying there's a shortage, but. There is a shortage.
Starting point is 01:43:07 Yeah, but they're price gouging, you know? Yeah, but there's still a shortage. Oh, yeah. They're definitely price gouging, but there's also still a shortage. But they also have overhead. Like, if they're not selling cars because they don't have cars to sell, and they have a fucking high lease rate. Right.
Starting point is 01:43:17 There's a lot of shit going on. I looked into it now. So Tesla gets around that because Tesla, because it's fully electric, you can buy straight from the manufacturer. There has to be a dealership in the middle. Every other kind of car, you have to buy. It got so bad that the CEO of Ford threatened dealers if they kept price gouging that they wouldn't get the new inventory. Yeah. It's creepy, but if you're a dealer and that's the only way you're making a living, all of a sudden you're not selling any cars because you don't have any cars to sell.
Starting point is 01:43:47 I get that they'd be like, hey, there's a fucking demand going on here. Let's jack this shit up. Because they're allowed to jack up certain cars. Like if you get a certain car that's a hard-to-get car, like a Porsche, for example, they're always over the dealer rate. Always. Always. Like if you go to a lot and you try to buy a GT3 RS, a limited
Starting point is 01:44:06 edition car, it's not going to cost what it costs if you ordered it from the factory. It's going to cost more. Right, right. Yeah. Especially like, like that's one of the things that people do with like luxury cars. They flip them and they'll buy a Ferrari and not even drive it and then flip it and then, you know, bring it to, and then they'll do it on consignment. They'll sell it at a Ferrari dealership. Because to order a Ferrari, to go and order one from the factory, you have to have bought one before, you have to have a relationship with them.
Starting point is 01:44:33 So you can't just buy one. No, it's not that easy. So people buy them and then they flip them and you can get like more, they're worth more money than you bought them for. Oh, wow. Yeah, and then they're worth just as much money money like a year from now two years from now wait a minute if to buy one you have to have bought one before how you buy the first you have to buy one that's flipped
Starting point is 01:44:52 oh wow yeah wow to order one from ferrari you have to have like a relationship with ferrari imagine being that ballsy about your brand that's ballsy we like we don't we only sell exclusively yeah you don't yeah you can't just buy one you can't just buy a ferrari they make these motherfuckers by hand but when you get in one you're like holy shit you feel that leather i'm scared remember remember the last time i heard we were at the shooting range talking about fast cars and i'm like i'm so i'm scared to get in one because it was it was easy before when i couldn't afford one right and but i'm i was like i'm gonna fucking die i can't have a car like that well if you have a tesla those are fast as fuck yeah i don't want that fast as fuck but easy to
Starting point is 01:45:36 drive easy to drive normal so like you don't have to drive them that fast it doesn't compel you to drive fast but what it does do is it drives fast effortlessly with no sound. They just gave up on the auto-driving thing, right? No. They just released a new update. I thought Elon just said autonomous driving is too complicated. Really? On Twitter.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Wasn't there some auto-drive upgrade that just got released? I don't use it. The first headline I saw today was like they fired 200 people from that division. Oh, really? Yeah, he said it was too... I think on Twitter he said it.
Starting point is 01:46:11 He said it was too... It's more complicated than he anticipated. Tesla revives enhanced autopilot for $6,000. Oh, revives? Yeah, what did he say that... No, I'm talking about
Starting point is 01:46:23 fully autonomous driving. So every... From the beginning to the end. All the assisted features say that... No, I'm talking about fully autonomous driving. So all the assistive features, that's fine. But the car driving itself completely without your input, that's a wrap. He hasn't tweeted for a few days. No? Weirdly, yeah. He hasn't tweeted since June 21st. Maybe that was...
Starting point is 01:46:40 That's quite a while. It might have just been bullshit. It might have just been a... Coming to a fake Elon Musk account. There's a lot lot of those no that i didn't see him i didn't see him tweet i saw i read an article that quoted a tweet from him oh well it's to just be able to press a button and have it stop at every red light and recognize every car and every person trying to cross the road and all that stuff and not hit anybody man i, I don't know. That's going to take a while. I think that because I think they're going about it.
Starting point is 01:47:10 I think the better way to do it would have to be with the roads also interacting with the cars. Right. He's actually not incorrect in what he was saying. Here's another article rewording this headline. Tesla relaunches $6,000 enhanced autopilot gutting full self-driving package in the process. Oh. So enhanced autopilot is not the same as full self-driving. So they gutted full self-driving.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Let me see what it says here. Interesting. Hmm, interesting. They reversed the move by fully bringing back enhanced autopilot as an option on new purchases. Hmm. Rather than being able to do. So autopilot, enhanced autopilot says navigate on autopilot, auto lane change, auto park, summon, and smart summon.
Starting point is 01:47:58 So I don't think that stops at red lights and does all that other shit. No. That's one of the things they were trying to get it to do. Oh, full self-driving capability. Is that still available? I don't think that stops at red lights and does all that other shit. No. That's one of the things they were trying to get it to do. Oh, full self-driving capability. Is that still available? That's the thing. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:48:11 I'm a little confused. Maybe they stopped this enhanced autopilot thing for a while and you could only do that. Now they brought it back because this isn't technically fully available yet. So see what it says. It says full self-driving capability, all functionality of basic autopilot and enhanced autopilot, traffic light, and stop sign control. Oh, that's only 60 grand? Auto steer on city streets.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Only 60 grand for the car? For that one. For that Model 3 that they're showing in the second screenshot. Oh, $59,000. That's a dope little car. You know, that's a good size, too, those Model 3s. They're agile. They're little fast little fuckers. Yeah, I might get one.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Dude, they're so fast. Callan has one. Ask him about it. Callan? Yeah, those things are- I don't know him. You don't know him? No.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Really? I've never met Brian Callan. That's crazy. No. Wow. Well, I'll fix that. But they figured that out with those cars where they have the big one that is like the four-door the s series they
Starting point is 01:49:06 have the three series which is a little more accessible but more agile too and then they have the x and then they have a couple coming out and they have this fucking truck that is the wildest shit i've ever seen in my life yeah they just finalized the design on the truck dude it's amazing what's the other thing they have the little little Tesla Roadster. The Roadster is not, a lot of people bought those. You pay for it and you got to wait for years. According to this article, this is probably why. It says they kept missing deadlines to achieve full self-driving. So they took some of those features and put them back on a different package.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Aha. Interesting. Yeah, but I think Elon has basically said it's too hard. It's too hard of a problem for where we're at at the moment. Makes sense. It's a hard problem. I mean, you think about people changing lanes. What does the thing do?
Starting point is 01:49:56 If there's a car coming and then you turn to the right to avoid the car and there's a person, what do you do? You know what I think is going to end up happening, Jim? Is I think, like I said, I think it's gonna end up happening but is I think like I said I think it's gonna start with the highways. We're gonna install some kind of AI Package in the highways that so I think this is the best way It's gonna implement a society where when you pull onto the highway the hot the road Connects with your car and takes over until you get to your exit. That's probably the right way Yeah, and and that's gonna get people your exit. That's probably the right way. And that's going to get people used to, because it's going to definitely get political.
Starting point is 01:50:29 Well, what if you don't pay for your account and won't let you on the road? You can't get to work. What if it gets to that? What if it gets to that's a service that you have to pay for, like the electrical bill that you get? Maybe you get a bill for every mile you travel. Or maybe you can't get on that road that road without it yeah there'll be something like
Starting point is 01:50:48 that there'll be something like that where you have to pay for access to the road or you have to like have a a subscription or a clean record or a clean social credit score to be able to get on the road yeah something like that it's not going to be more freedom. It's not going to be more freedom. As time goes on, they're going to get closer and closer and closer to a solid grip on us. People are so short-sighted that they're willing to give up. This is another thing I think is wrong politically is we're so obsessed with dunking on the other side. with dunking on the other side. You know, and people are so willing to give up a freedom in the moment if it hurts the opposition.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Yeah. And they don't realize, like, somebody else is going to have that power someday. Yeah, exactly. That was the thing about the Patriot Act when Obama was in office. He was like, you know, indefinite detention, we would never use it. But you're putting it in there. You're never going to use it. But look who's after you, Trump.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Maybe he would use it. Maybe he'd decide we've got to put him away forever. Who cares? And what if it's worse than Trump? What if it's next level Trump? What if we keep going on to more ruthless and ruthless people that control the power? You can't have that kind of a thing in place and just assume you have a benevolent dictator who's never going to utilize it. Because that's what they did by passing it.
Starting point is 01:52:06 You gave people that are in charge of other people power that they're not supposed to have. The whole checks and balances thing is out of whack now. It's kind of terrifying. It's terrifying. Yeah. I mean, lucky for us, we're not going to be around
Starting point is 01:52:19 when everything really, really goes to shit. I think we will. Really? You think it's going to be that soon? I think it's going to happen quicker than you think. I think things got so weird between 2019 and 2022 well you will i'm gonna be eating cheeseburgers until it's over i'm just saying you you're not gonna die in five years unless something awful happens but within five years things are gonna get very weird very weird things got very weird in three.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Yeah, you're right about that. Five years from now, you're talking about almost a decade from COVID. Things are going to be strange as fuck. Remember that podcast that they did at the store on election night when Trump won? Yeah. Remember how fucking weird that felt? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:01 The energy in the air. That was my podcast. We did The End of the World. Okay, yeah. We didn't know. It was me and Bill bill burr and burt kreischer and i remember somebody brought a kid jim jeffries oh right brought his kid we go hey that's not legal we're smoking pot get out of here right and and we know we didn't know that was the beginning of like we thought that was the peak weirdness yeah we were like what in the fuck? The guy from The Apprentice is the president. It was so funny.
Starting point is 01:53:27 At the time, you could mock it and everybody would laugh and no one, everyone was so confused. But then it became like this. Then you saw the separation. People that were okay with it. People that hated it. People that were happy that he's president. People that hated everything about him and anyone who supported him, and then it got more and more polarized as time went on.
Starting point is 01:53:48 And then he never changed. We thought that when he was going to get to be the president, he was going to stop insulting people, he was going to try to be presidential. No. He's running again. Of course he is. He can run again.
Starting point is 01:54:00 He's allowed to run again. It's nuts. I think he's going to split the party. He might. But, I mean, who the fuck is... Will it even matter? On the Democratic side, the thing is, like, what are you voting for? You know, are you voting for the person?
Starting point is 01:54:12 Are you voting for the policies? And then this abortion's right thing. This has changed a lot of people's ideas about becoming Republican. Well, this is something I never thought would happen. Whispers of Hillary Clinton 2024 have started. Well, this is on CNN. That's not a good started. Well, this is on CNN. That's not a good idea.
Starting point is 01:54:28 What's this? Two Fox News members are saying they said she shouldn't run. CNN's saying there's whispers of her running. Well, I ain't trying to hear that. See, CNN, stop reporting whispers, motherfucker. That's real close to a rumor. It is a rumor. It is a whisper. A real news channel shouldn't be talking about whispers.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Give me some fucking concrete information. Well, they're not a real news channel shouldn't be talking about whispers. Give me some fucking concrete information. Well, they're not a real news channel. Of course not. It's a propaganda arm of the Democratic Party. That's the other thing about the Trump election, right? People forget that all the polls and all that were like, no way he's going to fucking... Hillary's blowing
Starting point is 01:54:59 him out everywhere and this shit turned out to be completely opposite. So, like that guy was talking about, it's erodedoded our trust we don't even know what's true or whose agenda is what it's it's i think there was also the secret trump vote what was that the secret trump rose people that didn't want to admit they were going to vote for trump oh yeah there's people that did not like the way things are going did not trust hillary and they'd never vote for republican at any other time. They're like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:55:26 Fuck her. And they put it in there. She was not a loved person when she was running for president. No. You know? And all the craziness that they did during the elections and all the wild shit where Trump had the women that accused Bill Clinton of sexual assault. He had them on stage with him, like over to the right sitting down like there was so much crazy shit During those debates and during like all of that. It was just like it got so hot and because he's so volatile and
Starting point is 01:55:56 Argumentative and he's like so good at like fucking with people and talking shit. It became like this Came entertaining the people the other side lost their fucking minds. And what really killed them, like I said, Republicans were like, because remember, at first Republicans was against Trump. But then when they started looking at the numbers, they were like, oh, this motherfucker can win. And they all fucking got behind him. They all got behind him. Even the ones that he shit on and called him serial killers. He's a joke.
Starting point is 01:56:21 He does that. That's just what he does. But he's going to lead this country. Not on our side. On our side, we're like, hey, man, if you get too close to a titty, it's a wrap. Yeah that That's just what he does But he's gonna lead this country Not on our side On our side We're like hey man If you get too close to a titty It's a wrap
Starting point is 01:56:28 Yeah that's it forever We have this weird purity test Where it's like If you don't fucking Didn't always used to be like that though I know It used to be entertaining It used to be a
Starting point is 01:56:38 A fight you couldn't really predict Yeah Now we know We know who's gonna win But it's also I think the problem Of having a guy like Trump Is you have a popularity contest and you have an actual popular guy who knows how to be popular. And he just dominates this popularity contest. So it's like, unless you have someone with the same kind of charisma, like you got to rig the game.
Starting point is 01:56:59 Yeah. Yeah. And they, you know, the enthusiasm behind them, you know, they did rig the game. They rigged the game against Bernie Sanders. Yeah. They definitely did that. Who could have won? Maybe he could have won. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:57:12 But the thing is, that's where the energy was. There was no energy behind Hillary Clinton. Right. And there's other ones that are floating around that are at the top, the Elizabeth Warrens and the Pete Buttigiegs. I think there should be an age limit on running for president. Well, it's not a bad idea. It's not a bad idea. Is 70 reasonable? What about Congress people and Nancy Pelosi? It's like 81.
Starting point is 01:57:37 All that. I think 70 is a reasonable cutoff age where you shouldn't be able to be running the world. Just like you should be a police officer, you should have't be able to be running the world. Just like you should be a police officer, you should have to be able to do certain physical tasks. You should be able to go through a physical fitness test. You should have to do that as a president too. They should ask you questions.
Starting point is 01:57:56 Imagine if you had to take an SAT test. Imagine what Biden's SAT test would look like. They should occasionally scare you. If you shit your pants, you're out of office. If you gotta wear diapers and shit you can't be president yeah could you imagine if they made presidents take examinations to find out what their intelligence level is before they gave them certain tasks that would be incredible because imagine like you say you are the president but how much do you actually know about the economy how much do you actually
Starting point is 01:58:23 know about foreign foreign policy how much do you actually know about the economy? How much do you actually know about foreign policy? How much do you actually know about the environment and the impact of petrochemical products and natural gas and all these different things? Okay, so here's some questions. And then just lay out all these questions for them and whatever, depending upon how good they are at each individual answer, they get a certain amount of say in the policy that's attached to that particular subject. You know what i like too i like like i think like if the vote's close enough they should have to throw hands they should settle it with like if it's within 20 they should have to fight they should have to play chess yeah like all all manner of other competitions other than a fucking debate where they have an earpiece and people are telling them what to say. Do you think they have earpieces in? Yeah. Yeah? In fact, some of
Starting point is 01:59:06 them have been caught. I remember Mitt Romney was caught where the echo from his earpiece was coming through his microphone. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God, hold that up. This was during the Republican primary debates. Mitt Romney? Yeah, I'm almost positive it was Mitt Romney.
Starting point is 01:59:22 That should be illegal. Yeah, he got caught with the earpiece in, and it was one of those group debates. You know? I'm almost positive it was Mitt Romney. That should be illegal. Yeah, he got caught with the earpiece in. And it was one of those group debates. You know? I'm sure it'll pop up. He's like a fucking televangelist. Yeah, I mean, and they were telling him what to say. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:59:36 That's so hilarious. And so maybe it wasn't just him, but I'm sure they all do. Who's on the other end that's so good? And why doesn't that person run for president? Because they're smarter than that. You know? It's like, you know. That's so good. Why doesn't that person run for president? Because they're smarter than that. You know, it's like, you know, it's like those political, the political strategists and shit behind the scenes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:52 That's job security. Yeah. That's way better than being a candidate. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. They don't get forced out. They stay in office forever.
Starting point is 02:00:01 And it's never their fault. Right. And then they move on to the next campaign. Yeah. They become a fixer. Because it's been a long. Right. And then they move on to the next campaign. Yep. They become a fixer. It's been a long time since I was in, like, really followed politics strictly, but I know James Carville was one of those people. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where he was like.
Starting point is 02:00:13 The Clintons. Yeah. Yeah. He was a beast at that. Interesting guy. Yeah. He would be on those talk shows talking, you know, that kind of southern accent. And he just, his accent made it sound like he was lying.
Starting point is 02:00:23 Yeah. But. Well, he's a politician the problem with politicians is they us we all we know there's going to be a certain amount of lying and they assume they're going to have to lie about a certain amount of things there's they never it's like you know that lady who's the new white house press secretary and when they talk to her about the economy she's like the economy's as strong as it's ever been they're like right the fuck are you talking about and the other day uh she's talking to don lemon and don lemon says do you think that do you have any concerns about biden being fit enough to run at 24 she's like oh this
Starting point is 02:00:54 is ridiculous are we really bringing this up i can't even keep up with him you see all the things he does have you seen it bro you need to see it because it's so ridiculous. I'm laughing at your impression of her. It's dead on. I can't even keep up with you. No, no, no. I'm telling you, it's dead on. That's how she said it.
Starting point is 02:01:12 That's how she said it. It's so dumb because everybody's watching this guy. American, it's just some American one word. Fuck it, ladies and gentlemen. He's falling apart. They don't even care anymore. They'll lie to your face now. Yes.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Well, this is like some of the most blatant lying to your face because you're lying and Don Lemon's calling bullshit. When Don Lemon's calling bullshit, that's real bullshit. Watch this. Oh, wow. Wow, the new White House. There's a video of that. No, there's a video. I watched it.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Is this the press secretary? Yeah, just go to videos. Yeah, that's the new one. I don't know if that's the right one. This is a week ago. That was from June 15th or something. No, no, no. Right. White House press secretary Don Lemon. Put that in there. Yeah, just go to videos. It's not true. Yeah, that's the new one. I don't know if that's the right one. This is a week ago. That was from June 15th or something. No, no, no. Write White House Press Secretary Don Lemon.
Starting point is 02:01:47 Put that in there. Yeah, dude. Every White House Press Secretary is a fucking snake. They have to be. That's the job. The job is you have to spin things. Right there. No, it was the one there downstairs.
Starting point is 02:02:01 Don, right there. The bottom lawn. The bottom lawn. I know, but that's six minutes long. I don't know where the part's the parts gonna be you notice how fast they burn out to they never left the whole president term never this is only let me hear shit that's I don't know is in the run-up to this year's midterm elections and it is raising questions about how the parts were the growing
Starting point is 02:02:18 louder inside the Democratic Party facing doubt that some that in the Democratic Party about his plans to run us second term. I want you to listen. This is what Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez told CNN when asked if she would support Biden in 2024. Here it is. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it. But but I think if if the president has a vision, and that's something certainly we're all willing to entertain and examine when the time comes. That's not a yes. I believe that the president has been doing a very good job so far. And, you know, should he run again?
Starting point is 02:02:52 I think that I, you know, I think it's it's we'll take a look at it. OK, so as I understand, you you assured or you you reiterated that the president does plan to run in 2024. Right. So first of all, the congresswoman did say the president is doing a good job. So that's good. Right. So I just want to really highlight that because many people agree with that. Look, but he is going to run in 2024. Well, let me just say there is a you know, there's two. There's something called the Hatch Act that I have to be very mindful of. What I can say is the president has repeatedly said that he plans, he plans to run in 2024 and I'm going to have to leave it there. Okay. Okay. But then, but are you concerned, is the administration worried that there are Democrats
Starting point is 02:03:40 who are not openly endorsing the president come 2024, even though you can't say for sure. I really can't get in. I can't get into that. All I can say is what the president intends to do, what the president plans to do. And look, at the end of the day, Don, our focus is to deliver for the American people. That's the work that we've been doing with the economy. She's got that we've been doing with COVID. He walked in again. Let's not forget when he walked in as She's got politician hands. the side you have republicans and what they're doing is they're putting out a plan rick scott senator risk i put out a plan on how he wants to raise uh... taxes on people making less than a hundred thousand dollars also green sunset medicare uh... medicare and and social security things that are so important
Starting point is 02:04:38 i think that those are the most not going to be across the country those are your right those important policy issues in that and those should be discussed in their discussed in every presidential election, and they're discussed all the time. But the concern is the president during interviews where he doesn't seem to answer questions directly or at times succinctly. There is his approval ratings. Times succinctly. There is his that's his approval ratings. According to the latest Gallup poll, 41 percent of Americans approve of Biden's job as president. So how do you how how does he and you, because you are the spokesperson of the White House, plan to assure voters that he is still the best candidate to beat Trump? Is he is he at his best right now?
Starting point is 02:05:26 Well, I think the thing that that Americans love about President Biden is he's a trade shooter. He he is a straight shooter and he says it as the way he sees it and he calls it out. And that is the thing that makes him genuine and authentic and real. And people really, really connect with this president. I see it myself when we go into, we're going to Philly, Pennsylvania. I'll see it then. We just came back from New Mexico.
Starting point is 02:05:54 We were in LA, California. She studied Obama's hand movements. All across the country. And I see how people feel about this president and how much they appreciate what he has done. And I think that matters as far as the polls. Our focus, again, is delivering for the American people. We're making inflation our number one economic policy.
Starting point is 02:06:15 There's other issues that the president has to deal with. And that is what he's going to focus on. And that's how he's going to continue. There's no concern within the administration about the president's polling. That's not what we're talking about here. We're focused. We are genuinely focused on how we can get the work done on behalf of the American. Does the president have the stamina physically and mentally, do you think, to continue on even after 2024?
Starting point is 02:06:40 Don, you're asking me this question. Oh, my gosh. He's the president of the United States. You know, he I can't even keep up with it. We just got back from New Mexico. We just got back from California. That is not a question
Starting point is 02:06:56 that we should be even asking. Just look at the work that he does. Look how he's delivering for the American public. Gaslighting. Whatever you do, nobody strike a fucking match. She can't keep up with him. Strike a match.
Starting point is 02:07:12 That is wild. That's wild talk. Are we really asking this? Are we really? Come on, Don. Oh my God, Don. Oh my gosh. There's when politicians do this thing where they have a way of Come on, Don. Oh, my God, Don. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 02:07:30 There's when politicians do this thing where they have a way of talking. There's a very specific. It's like someone doing karate. It's pleading. It's a joke. Are we really going to talk about. It's like she did everything but answer his question. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:43 Listen, we're here. He was like, what are these polls? She was like, well, listen, I'm going all around this nation. What I'm seeing with my own eyes, I'm seeing the people. People are really connecting with him. Right. 42% of the people actually approve of what he's doing. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:07:58 I don't know. I think it's all bull. I don't trust the polls. I don't trust the questions. I don't trust her. My point is, of course you don't trust her. She's clearly not just speaking about what she thinks she's clearly being a politician right she's propagandizing she's putting thing in the in the best light possible that's not really what she really thinks of
Starting point is 02:08:16 course she has some concerns everybody of course you're keeping up with a 73 year old man that can barely stay awake he's's 80, bro. Oh, okay. Wow. Isn't he? 79? 78? Yeah. I think he just... He shouldn't... Look... Maybe 79.
Starting point is 02:08:32 Look, he shouldn't be running the country. I'm sorry. I don't know. Is that ageism? No, because if he was 79 and very lucid and he was very good at speaking and he made really important points and he felt sincere,
Starting point is 02:08:42 you'd have trust in him and you'd want him to run the country. Like, that lady's gaslighting us. But see, that's not even where I'm coming from. Where are you coming from? I'm coming from, even if you're 79 and you're the most lucid, you're making decisions that you are definitely not going to be around to have to live with.
Starting point is 02:09:01 Right, but if you are like a movie, let's go to a movie about some like wise society of brilliant people and you have the wisest of the wise who rules amongst them and does so with kindness and compassion and generosity and the way they do it is like with pure democracy and they only want the will of the people and they want the people to be happy and educated and he just happened to be 78. he'd be like, that's our leader. Yeah, true. This is not what he is, is nonsense.
Starting point is 02:09:30 What he is, is a foot, it's like a placeholder for a leader. And then all the shit is going on behind the scenes and he starts rapping, we're gonna get rid of e-cigarettes. See, I told you, I'm on some Judge Dredd shit. I think you should have to die right after. I think you become president to die right after i think you i
Starting point is 02:09:45 think you're president you become president you automatically get eight years and right after they just hand you a rifle and send you out into the fucking desert or they chop your head off on paper yeah yeah something like that fix the streets yeah like because that way because a lot of these people they go they they go there because it's going to enrich them right you know and they don't there's no penalty or nothing like they want they just want power well they get these weird sort of unwritten deals where they give speeches after they get out of office for hundreds of thousands of dollars to companies that they helped enrich during their period in office and then there's like this revolving door thing that goes on.
Starting point is 02:10:26 Have you ever seen Inside Job? It's a great movie. And it's all about the financial crisis. And the guy who is the narrator. Oh, no, no. I saw Inside Man. I thought you were okay. Oh, Inside Job is a job about the financial crisis.
Starting point is 02:10:40 And there's a guy who really understands the financial system, is asking all the questions of these professors and asking of these economic advisors and had this take place and what happened and Some of them get unhinged and get mad at them because he actually knows what he's talking about but what he's essentially pointing out is that people start off as professors in these universities and they professors in these universities and they endorse certain economic policies that will then lead to these problems then once they get out of working as a professor they go and get massive jobs with these companies that they helped
Starting point is 02:11:16 enrich by their decisions by their economic advice so these people there's like a financial incentive for them to endorse certain policies as lending and that kind of shit, financial shit. And so this guy explains it all. It's a wild movie because for people like me who don't know jack shit about how the economy works, I get to see that and it's, you know, you realize how much money these people were making and how it was all rigged and how they would have these people funnel from university to big. What's this on? Is this on Netflix?
Starting point is 02:11:50 I think it's on everything. It was this documentary in 2010. Yeah. So it's on a lot of places. It's right after the 2008 crisis. Okay, yeah. It's good. It's good.
Starting point is 02:11:58 Like smartest guys in the room good? Yeah, very similar. Okay. Very similar, yeah. It's one of those ones where you're just like, fuck. And you realize just like politicians get corrupt, businessmen get corrupt too. And when you're in a corporation, one of the things about corporations, the bottom line is you have to make more money. You're always trying to make more money.
Starting point is 02:12:15 And if you can make more money by telling a mathematician or a politician or someone that if you endorse this or that, this could help us over here. And then, hey, maybe you can come speak. And then you come speak and you're making $300,000 for a half hour of nonsense. America has always been about prosperity. And you're getting paid for that, like wild sums of money for that. Yeah. Am I above it? That's the question I got to ask.
Starting point is 02:12:41 No. No. Are you above it? Come on, man. If you had to do stand-up in front of the Democratic National Convention and they offered you $300,000 to do 45 minutes of stand-up, you're gonna do it. Oh, yeah. I'd do it.
Starting point is 02:12:54 Yeah, you'd do it. Yeah. It'd be great just for the story. There are very few groups of people I wouldn't do stand-up in front of. What about Bohemian Grove, that shirt you're wearing? I don't even know what this is. You don't know what this is? No.
Starting point is 02:13:05 Oh, my God. Bohemian Grove. This shirt you're wearing? I don't even know what this is. You don't know what this is? No. Oh, my God. Bohemian Grove. This is hilarious about you wearing that shirt. That's why I asked you, where'd you get that shirt? And you were like, I spilled something on my shirt. I got that from here. So somebody must have given me this. This shirt is about a place that all the rich guys go, and they dress up like druids, and
Starting point is 02:13:21 they do all these crazy fucking rituals. like druids and they do all these crazy fucking rituals and it used to be thought of as nonsense until john ronson uh filmed alex jones sneaking into bohemian grove alex jones made his way in there with a hidden camera filmed these guys with fucking druid costumes on burning an effigy in front of a giant owl god and talk about mollick the owl god and they've been going there since like the 60s Nixon talked about it Nixon talked about what a horrible time he had there what was Nixon's quote find Nixon's
Starting point is 02:13:52 quote on Bohemian Grove because it's fucking hilarious so dudes would get there and it'd be like all eyes wide shut type of shit and a lot of debauchery and and fucking perversion and these guys were all these like super duper rich guys and they would go there pull up Nixon's quote I'm all about debauchery and perversion. And these guys were all these super-duper rich guys, and they would go there, pull up Nixon's quote.
Starting point is 02:14:06 I'm all about debauchery and perversion. I'll just read it, but don't say it out loud. One example was President Nixon coming. I think we've said it before. Time and time. It's Nixon's quote. He says it is the most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine with that San Francisco crowd.
Starting point is 02:14:25 Yeah, Nixon hated it. So the Bohemian Grove was a place where it was just a legend. And then when they got video footage, these guys are actually doing this. People are like, oh my God. So the video footage. Is this Nixon talking about it? Oh, see? This is Nixon. Is this Nixon talking about it? Oh. See?
Starting point is 02:14:47 This is Nixon. on time to time. The Easters and the others have come there. But it is the most faggot goddamn thing you'll ever hear. The San Francisco crowd that goes in there. It's just terrible, he says. Wait a minute. He says he attends from time to time.
Starting point is 02:15:15 They all do. Look at that picture there. When you look at the people that Ronald Reagan was there, Richard Nixon, all these bigwigs and huge like heads of state and corporate leaders They would all go there It was like an elite of the elite and they would do things that are weird like they would dress up in Costumes and worship gods, but if he hated it so much, why did he go they all went there?
Starting point is 02:15:38 Oh, just it was like one of those things It's like you had to be in the club and And everybody thought it was nonsense until they got video footage of this. And they got video footage of this in like 99. So look, Henry Kissinger. Look at all these people that were there. Gerald Ford. John McCain. They all went there. They took a class photo. Bohemian Grove Camp
Starting point is 02:15:57 Mandalay, 1977. But see if you can find the video of the actual footage that Ronson and Alex Jones got because it's wild shit man these these guys there's a megaphone and they're talking through the megaphones like a speaker and They're explaining how they worship in this owl God, and then they burn this effigy that's supposed to represent a body It's like a bundle of sticks, and they light it on. It's wild shit. Did that turn into Burning Man? No, Burning Man is the opposite of that.
Starting point is 02:16:30 So see if you can just cut. Yeah, cut ahead until you see the actual footage of them. So this is Alex Jones inside Bohemian. This is before they understood what he was doing. But if you go back all the way towards the end, I think. There it is. There we go. So this is the actual ritual. So they all have torches and they dress up like monks and listen to this shit. We shall meet thee. And some of us prevail against thee, and some thou shalt destroy. But this too we know.
Starting point is 02:17:08 Year after year within this happy grove, our fellowship bans thee from space. Thy malevolence which would pursue us here has lost its power under these friendly trees. So shall we burn thee once again this night? And in the flames that eat thine empathy, Yo, this is just... Ye shall burn me once again. Okay, pause. And people wonder why Alex Jones is crazy. Is that a... Imagine seeing that and go, how come everybody doesn't know about this?
Starting point is 02:18:01 The presidents all go here. The heads of state. This is all real. Sounds like a goofy play Sketch competition But that is what they do like the shittiest improv group, it's just But it's it's what it's weird Is that these people all become like you know the story of like skull and bones all these elite fraternities?
Starting point is 02:18:23 They do wild shit, weird shit. You know, and they get you like that. You have to suck a dick and they take pictures of you. Now they have it and they put it in a vault. You know, that's the rumors. The rumors are always those kind of things like that. They have a way off. Probably not.
Starting point is 02:18:37 Oh, yeah. We got to wrap this up soon. We got a show in an hour. We do. I know. OK, you're right. You're right. Never mind.
Starting point is 02:18:45 We'll wrap I know. Okay, yeah, you're right. You're right. Never mind. Never mind. We'll wrap this up. But the whole point of all this is that some things that you think are fucking super impossible and bizarre are actually true. Like Epstein's Island. That was actually a real place. Oh, yeah. They just did a book at your girl. And they said she's on Suicide Watch.
Starting point is 02:19:03 Boy, she looks like she's on Suicide Watch. She's gonna die. Oh, those cameras, he's fucking, I can keep hitting them. They're gonna, go on. Camera's not working.
Starting point is 02:19:11 I'll fix it. Don't worry, we'll fix it. We'll fix it. Yeah, she not making it until Christmas. Not a chance. No.
Starting point is 02:19:16 Not a chance she makes it into an interview. Oh, dude, did you hear about, because a big theme for me this week has been the whole, how people like, get away with investigating themselves. Investigating themselves?
Starting point is 02:19:29 Yeah, like you'll hear like a police department investigating themselves. Oh. Or like a company investigating themselves. Internal investigation. Yeah, no wrongdoing. It turns out we followed all our protocol. So the LAPD, so you know there's been all these rumors
Starting point is 02:19:44 about there being like gangs in the L.A. County Sheriff's Department. Yes. Right? All the way back to Rampart days. Yeah. So they just, a police officer just died during training. It was simulated mob training, like them being attacked by a mob. And his neck was broken in three places during training,
Starting point is 02:20:07 which looks suspiciously like hazing. Whoa. Suffers injuries in training leading to death. Wow. Yeah, he died. Training was beaten to simulate mob. So they beat him to death? They beat him to death. Oh, Jesus Christ. So they beat him to death. Well, him to death. Oh, Jesus Christ. So they beat him to death.
Starting point is 02:20:26 Well, how do we know the facts of this though? What if he fell and broke his neck? Well, it says it has to be a being terrible injuries all over his body. It has to be a beating. Gage has filed a governmental claim. See, I'm not sure. I don't know all, it says tipping is not the first to be effectively murdered during training. The family says they hope the lawsuit will bring an end to training exercise deaths. All we know for sure is that he died and that it was during training. Look at this. One part of his head required staples. He became a quadriplegic.
Starting point is 02:21:01 He was unable to breathe on his own. His heart stopped. Holy shit. See, I don't know breathe on his own. His heart stopped. Holy shit. See, I don't know the details of that. I know, but they're investigating themselves. You know, so they're going to tell us. Who's it? And, you know, but the speculation runs wild.
Starting point is 02:21:18 Well, the only statement they made was that he died while grappling with another officer. And I was like, I know a lot of dudes that grapple regularly and i know dudes that have gotten hurt grappling but i don't know anybody that's broken their neck i do in three places i do yeah yeah it can happen one of the ways it happens is um if you go for a guillotine when someone shoots a double and you capture the guillotine and as they shoot the double, they drive into it, and it lands on the head. It's happened to guys. There's a guy from Team Alpha Male who got paralyzed doing that, and I think that happened with Mark Coleman,
Starting point is 02:21:53 but he didn't get paralyzed, but he did temporarily. There's been guys who have done that. Because if you think about it, right, if someone shoots a double, they're driving in. It's natural for someone to get you in a headlock, right? The head is right there. Right. And if they hold on to your head and keep it out there,
Starting point is 02:22:08 and then all their weight drives down, their head hits the ground with all of your weight, all of my weight, all on my head. Right, all on your neck. All on your neck. And the neck just shatters. It's happened before. More than one time I've heard of it.
Starting point is 02:22:21 It's dangerous. So if that's the case, why don't they just say it was an accidental death? they said he died during training so if they're simulating the problem is they said he was beaten all over his body now if that's true that's a different thing that's different but i'm just giving you a scenario where someone could potentially break their neck but you know you know as well as i do right we've both been a part of man manly organizations, sports, military,
Starting point is 02:22:47 fighting, and you know, to me, this sounds like hazing. This sounds like a ritual that like rookies go through or something. They call it training, but it's really
Starting point is 02:22:54 we're going to beat your ass and then we're going to give you a little stripes or whatever they get afterwards. And it probably got out of control. It could be. Or it could be
Starting point is 02:23:02 mob training where guys aren't told to pull their shots and they um they simulate if a guy's going to be attacked like can you get to your gun in time can you get to your taser can you get in your vehicle and then the guys who are doing it get out of control and they hit people full blast because sometimes people just hit people full blast like there's guys like there's a lot of videos online you can watch with sparring matches that turn into fights because some guy hit someone full blast
Starting point is 02:23:29 and then they just start winging at each other. Some motherfuckers don't know how to act. Exactly. But if you're in a situation where you're simulating a mob attack, that is possible that that's what they were doing and somebody just crushed this dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:43 I am biased because I don't, the LAPD's reputation is- It's the best. It's stellar, right? They're the best. So it's like, yeah, they could be telling the truth. I'm guessing the truth is somewhere in the middle. Probably, but you know that people do get fragged
Starting point is 02:24:00 like on purpose in the military and they'll blame it on the enemy if you don't like a guy. Oh yeah happens it happens it happens and i'm sure it happens in lapd too there's nothing this could be a gang initiation who knows who knows what the fuck it could be i would i would lean towards training accident because i think it is very possible that their training was not who knows who knows if they implemented it correctly, if they planned it correctly, but it could also be a murder. Who the fuck knows? What I'm saying is that
Starting point is 02:24:31 it is definitely possible that it was an accident. Unless he's got wounds all over his body. They say terrible wounds all over his body. What if they're using an object? They're beating him with something? I don't know what they were doing. We need to send him to Oh, your boy. So I told you I met Bert Soren Soren and he introduced me to a motherfucker that did he he does the stuff called
Starting point is 02:24:58 RPR have you heard of that PRP PRP? Yes It's called platelet-rich plasma. No, no, no, it's our different thing. No, no, no, it's RPR. It's called Platelet Rich Plasma No no no No it's RPR Different thing No no no It's RPR It's something Reset Something
Starting point is 02:25:11 Where's that video Was it on someone's story Or something I saw it It was me It was on Bert's story Of me What is
Starting point is 02:25:17 It's I forget what Fuck he's gonna be pissed at me I told No RPR But basically he It's basically like I don't even know how to explain it
Starting point is 02:25:24 It's like It's like It's, like bro yoga, you know, like he, he, he. Like Dallas Diamond Page yoga? Right. Reflexive performance reset. Okay. Yeah. So I told him that like, I hurt, I hurt my shoulder a few years ago, like throwing axes and it's been hurting her.
Starting point is 02:25:41 That's a manly way to hurt your shoulder. It is. It is. Right. And he, and he, uh, and he, he was like, And he was like, okay, put your arm out like this here. And when I push on it, try to push back. And he pushed on it, and I couldn't. And then he was like, this is going to hurt.
Starting point is 02:25:57 And when he figured out where the pain was, he held out my arm, and he dug under here, like into, it hurt like a motherfucker. Because he's like, this tendon connects to here and connects to there. And so he dug into my shoulder and all that shit. And then he did it again and I fucked. It worked and my shit stopped hurting. So you had an impingement or something? Yeah, I think I had an impingement a long time ago, and it turned into scar tissue,
Starting point is 02:26:27 and I was compensating for it. And you know how it is. If you spend a long time sitting wrong, and you're not working out, and this muscle gets weak, and it's connected to this and connected to that, it's like you can have a pain in your lower back that's really from some shit in your neck. And so that's what he does. He figures out where it's actually coming from and he fucking he digs and so basically he equated it to like acupuncture where it's like there's certain uh i can't i forget the pressure points certain pressure points there's certain clumps of fascia on on the top on the top layer
Starting point is 02:27:00 of your muscle and you can separate them yeah he breaks that shit up and it hurts like a mouth, but it works. And I got other people to do it. They didn't believe me at first. That's kind of one of the principles of rolfing. The idea behind rolfing. It's like heavy manipulation of tissue. It's really painful. It's like a kind of massage but they use tools sometimes
Starting point is 02:27:20 and they use elbows and they just like dig apart your tissue. I used to go to this guy who was a rolfer, and I went to him for a while until he told me that Bruce Lee beat 100 men in competition once. I was like, what are you talking about, man? He was explaining to me. He didn't know that I'm a martial arts guy, so I'm telling him about, or maybe he did.
Starting point is 02:27:38 But anyway, I'm telling him about my injury, and he's helping me with my injury, but then he gives me some nonsense about how Bruce Lee was once in a martial arts match with a hundred different individuals and he beat them all because he had full control of his mind and his body i go what what i let you touch me like you're a crazy person practicing voodoo on me but manipulating like with like heavy duty deep tissue massage and roughing i mean i don't think roughing bad. I think this guy was kind of kooky. But rolfing itself is very effective.
Starting point is 02:28:10 Like sometimes you need the kind of massage that fucking hurts. Yeah, yeah. That's what I need. That's what I'm going to get to. You know what you should do? It's a really good thing if you have access to a chin-up bar. Really good things for your shoulders is just hang. Hanging is one of the best things.
Starting point is 02:28:23 Like grab it. It's really good for your shoulders. Because most of the time our shoulders are just getting compacted all the time. You're pushing things and it's like pushed against this. You're sleeping on it. You need it to stretch out. And sometimes all that impingement can all be fixed just by hanging from a chin-up bar. You don't have to even do chin-ups.
Starting point is 02:28:40 Just hang from it. Do as long as you can, 10 seconds, whatever. Build your way up. But there's a whole bunch of videos on YouTube that are dedicated to the values of hanging from chin-up bars. One of my favorite things you've got in there is that inversion table. That's really good, too. I weigh too much for it now, I think. The best one is the one that hinges at the waist.
Starting point is 02:28:58 It's called the Dex 3. I never heard of that. I'll show it to you. It's out there. That one's the shit. It hinges at the waist instead of hanging from your ankles. That one's the best because the other one is really good, but you're kind of holding yourself with your leg muscles. This one, it's all just your waist.
Starting point is 02:29:16 So you're sitting with all of your weight, essentially. It's almost like a leg curl type setup. And your back goes pop, pop, pop. Oh, I need that. It feels good. I need that. We got one here. I'll show it to you right now. I'm buying it pop, pop, pop. Oh, I need that. I need that. We got one here. I'll show it to you right now. I'm buying it.
Starting point is 02:29:28 I'm in my house. It's called a Teeter Dex. Dex 3? Dex 2. Teeter Dex 2. Teeter been in the game for a minute. It's the shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:36 That thing is the shit. I recommend that to everybody. The other one's good too. But I think that one is particularly good. Yeah, because would you agree, flexibility is probably the most underrated fitness parameter? It's very important. Range of motion.
Starting point is 02:29:52 Yeah. I would put the two of them together. Range of motion is flexibility. Flexibility is range of motion. Because if you have more flexibility, you have more range of motion. But there's certain things in certain people that are bound up. They're bound up in their neck and their back and they're like,
Starting point is 02:30:06 like if you stretched out you would have more pliability, be more supple. I need that, I've always had that, because my whole, everybody in my family, we all got necks like this. Like if I purposely was trying to kill myself by just eating fucking cake 24-7, my neck would still be like this.
Starting point is 02:30:26 It was like, are we all built like we fucking... Like wrestlers. Yeah, my whole family. And so I just... I ignored flexibility and range of motion for so long. Yeah, you can't ignore that. No. For longevity and just for overall health,
Starting point is 02:30:42 you should really concentrate on those things. Yeah, I ain't trying to be one of those old people that's got a fucking tiptoe everywhere. Oh, fuck that. Or you can't bend over to tie your own shoes. Yeah. Or you start wearing slippers. Or your ACL just goes in the swimming pool. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:54 You know? Or just, you know? Yeah. Or you just put, you're putting on shoes one day and you fucking lose an MCL. Fuck that. I watched a horrible video of this fucking old dude who was, I'll send it to you, Jamie, because I saved it. This fucking old dude was walking on like a walker. He had like, you know, he was like really old.
Starting point is 02:31:13 And in the middle of him walking, this fucking bull comes up behind him and just jacks him for no reason. It's horrific. Have you seen it? No, I haven't seen it. I'm going to find it, Jamie. You got it? Oh, it's so sad. Watch this shit.
Starting point is 02:31:30 This dude is so old. Karma? Nope, that's not even the one. I'll find it. I know I saved it. Man. Yo, have you seen the one of the elephant? Which one of the elephant?
Starting point is 02:31:44 The elephant, he fucking, he kills this lady. Oof. And then he comes back to her funeral and violates her corpse. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, he, hold on, I'll send it to you. I can't find this. I thought I had it. He, Trello.
Starting point is 02:32:02 Yes. God, I swore I'd save that video. I found that one for Brian. Which one? Oh, yeah, that's it. Oh, what does he do? So the elephant trampled a woman to death. Go back to that so I can read it.
Starting point is 02:32:19 Trampled a woman to death at the Raipal Village in odisha on june 9 the herd attacked the village again when she was being taken for cremation the same evening oh yeah they came back for that they came back yeah yeah she did something to that motherfucker perhaps like most most people fucking with most people fucking with animal i mean sometimes it's unfortunate you don't realize you you stumbled onto somebody's nest or something right but but sometimes it's unfortunate you don't realize you stumbled onto somebody's nest or something. Right. But sometimes it's because you're fucking with the wrong animal. Oh, Snoop had it on his page.
Starting point is 02:32:51 Here, Jamie, I'll send it to you. I found it. All right, I'm Bluetoothing it to you right now. There you go. This is rough. Let's look at this. Imagine this. You live your whole life. You're in a fucking walker. And then boom. That's it. Let's look at this. Imagine this. You live your whole life.
Starting point is 02:33:07 You're in a fucking walker, and then boom. That's it. That's it. Watch this. Oh, fuck. Fuck, indeed. I mean, you have no idea it's coming, and then all of a sudden, the end. Is that an old woman? That's an old woman, I think.
Starting point is 02:33:19 It might be an old man. It's hard to tell. Oh, no. But that's the end. 100% the end. If it was on Big Beast's page, she'd be okay but that's that's the end 100 the end if it was on big beast page she'd be okay what's that mean she's okay she is oh oh that's a joke everybody's okay oh yeah you said big beast uh the black beast yeah i'm sorry yeah i was like what are you talking i thought you
Starting point is 02:33:37 like that's what i was like i think i said it wrong i know which thing i said wrong i thought you're saying mr beast i didn't know what you're saying because see i always get see the part that really hurt right there was the fact that, like, she might have been fine if she didn't have the walker, right? No, she's fucked. But that joint, it hit her right in the, like, with the pussy bone? She was going flying. Yeah?
Starting point is 02:33:56 She was going flying no matter what. Yeah, because you're already at the point where you need the walker. Yeah, she was going flying. And she's landing on her head, too. Like, that's how the universe decided to take her out It's a random. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Look how old she is Dude, she flipped up in the air and landed headfirst on the concrete. That's a wrap Yeah, I mean I'm not sure and then the legs landed on top of the Walker it didn't look good
Starting point is 02:34:21 It didn't yeah. All right. We got a show In less than an hour So let's wrap this up Let's do it Brian Simpson You're the fucking man Thank you Tell everybody about Your Netflix special It's available
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