The Joe Rogan Experience - #1849 - Rich Benoit

Episode Date: July 28, 2022

Rich Benoit is a car enthusiast, host of the YouTube channel "Rich Rebuilds," and co-founder of The Electrified Garage: an electric vehicle maintenance and repair company. https://www.youtube.com/RichRebuilds

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Hello, Rich. Hello, Joe. Good to see you. What's happening? It's been a while. It's been a while, man.

I've been watching your exploits. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. How is that V8 Tesla? You know, it's funny. I brought you something.

Yeah? I brought you a magazine. Oh. Based on the V8 Tesla. That's for you. Oh, no shit8 Tesla? You know, it's funny. I brought you something. Yeah? I brought you a magazine. Oh. Based on the V8 Tesla. That's for you. Oh, no shit. Actually, my hotel key's in there, so you can't take the whole thing. Popular mechanics.

Yes, front cover. Wow. Thank you. Thank you. Did Tesla reach out? Are they still at odds with you? You know what's funny? I don't even know if they're... They don't really care about me.

They don't? But they did for a while, right? I think, you know what? They would watch me in silence and just cautiously observe what I do pretty much. We should just tell everybody why. You were one of the very first guys that- That's yours. Oh, thank you.

One of the very first guys that started working on electric vehicles on Teslas as an unauthorized repair person. Correct, yes. And then you would also buy scrap Teslas and piece them together at an incredible savings. Yes, exactly. And make a fucking awesome car. Right. But they didn't really like that that much because that really didn't fall in line with their policy on just buy a new damn car.

Right. You know, like don't hobble together six different cars. Just buy one good car from us. How could they not see that that's cool? That you're doing, first of all, it's green. Yes, it's very green, yes. Right? Absolutely.

I mean, you're literally recycling broken Teslas, putting them back together again. Right. And it takes great skill to do that. Absolutely. I watched the videos. It's fucking complicated what you had to go through. It's not easy, no.

But I mean, that doesn't, why should they care about green? It's just about making money at that point. I mean, if you think about this, what would, I have this debate all the time. A lot of people force others into buying an electric car to say, buying an electric car will solve the world's pollution issues. It's good for the environment. In reality, the best thing we could do is take a look at ourselves and see what we're wasting all of our energy on.

Do you really need a Tesla? A bike would probably suffice. You could just walk. Just walk. Just walk everywhere. Yeah, try walking. You don't really have to get rid of your 98 Honda Civic that gets like 40 miles to the gallon

to get a Tesla to pretend you're saving the environment. You're kind of doing something because you're not contributing as much to pollution, but then you have to power that car. And sometimes people are powering their Tesla with coal plants, which is very ironic. It's funny. You know what? But a lot of good people, I'm not saying the ones that don't are bad, but a lot of people are also powering the Tesla with the sun. So they have their Tesla, they plug it in, they have the solar panels on the roof, which is admirable. That's great. At the same time, these people live in 10,000 square foot homes that have to be heated and cooled. They tend to forget about this.

Yeah. You have a 10,000 square foot house. It has to get heated and cooled. You have five acres of landscape lawn, and you know what landscaping does to an ecosystem. It destroys everything in its path. So no animals could survive there because of your landscaping. You have a huge house, but you have a Tesla, so it's fine. Yeah, I watched this landscaper the other day walk around my yard spraying stuff. I'm like, what's in that bottle? Am I still cool walking around barefoot? Right. What happens if that shit gets on my feet?

They tell you not to walk on it after they spray, don't they? I don't know. This guy didn't tell me nothing. Oh, jeez. I would check your feet, Joe. Check your feet for sure. Oh, no. Yeah. Probably missing a toe. Well, I was listening to some podcast where this guy got cancer because he

played golf and he was taking the pegs out and putting them in his mouth. Like, is that a common thing, Jamie? Those are called tees though, but yeah. Oh, tees. Sorry. Are you a golfer, Joe? No. Not a golfer. You're not a golfer.

Yeah. Well, you just, last time you mentioned this, I looked it up. It is a thing for sure. So guys are getting cancer from that. Yeah. It's like, they even say So guys are getting cancer from that? Yeah. They even say don't do it because they treat golf courses with tons of stuff. Yes. And for sure there's fertilizer on there every morning or piss and poop. Yeah, but the fertilizer is what would scare me. Yeah, yeah. Maybe cancer.

So you've got to pick your angle, though. What are you all about? I have four Tesla's. That's great. But, again, you're not contributing in other ways so who's who's better than who joe yeah that's the thing right everyone wants to pretend they're better and now people are upset because elon musk said he would vote republican because the democrats have lost their minds a whole lot of people are my virtue he was my savior your car my savior yeah it didn't affect

sales though i'll tell you that much i'm'm sure not. They're fucking great cars. They're absolutely great. Do you still have yours? Yeah, I have a new one. I have a Plaid that I drove here. How do you like your Plaid, by the way? I hate the steering wheel. Yes.

Don't like it. Yeah. I don't like it. I don't like... The other day, a guy changed lanes right in front of me. I went to hammer the center console. Can't do that. The center button.

Yeah. There's no horn there. There's no physical horn. Yeah. The horn is a button that's like you've got to get your thumb over to it. Right. It's totally non-intuitive. I think they've adjusted that.

I think the new ones, which sucks for me. I don't know if they can retrofit the steering wheel. Just buy a new car, Joe. That's what you want to do. Just buy a new car, Joe. What's the big deal? Buy a new one. That's annoying.

So the funny thing about Tesla is that I have an older one, and what they don't tell you is after some time, the battery degrades. And I have a Model X, and I get about 213 miles of range. That's not good. Which is not good, but at the same time, the suggestion is, well, just buy a new one. It's like, well, they're kind of expensive. What was the new, when it was brand new, what was the range? Brand new, it was, I think about, it was i think about it was a p it's a 90d

i think the range is about maybe in the 250s so it's lost some 250 so it's lost some jamie is an x what is how's yours uh i don't really charge it past 250 ever and i never go below 60 so right and i charge it every week just so that i don't have those problems. But he has that option. So what year is yours, Jamie? 2020? Oh, mine's like a 2016. I have the poverty spec one. It's a 2016. And that is,

was that the first year they came out? First year. Tiffany Haddish had one of those and she was making a dance in the parking lot of the comic store. I hate that. I hate that dance so much. I hate it.

I hate it, Joe. I do. It's kind of fun. It is kind of fun, but when i see someone i immediately just walk away i just i just for some reason i think it's so it's so gimmicky and just and then you know i did that once to impress my kids and the door broke and i'm like you know what never again the doors are odd the way they come up it's just like so lamborghini-esque

right it looks cool though it's a great party trick when i get my kids from school and at every they just go ape shit for for it. The kids love it. I have friends who love Ferraris but would never buy a Lamborghini. And I'm like, why? The doors, the way they open, it's just too douchey. The car's too douchey. Do Lamborghinis still open like that still? I think the older Lamborghinis and the newer ones, I think they open like regular Audis now. Oh, okay. I think it's maybe the, I could be wrong, maybe the Aventador opens up. But I think Lambos have kind of steered away from that now. Oh, so only the Aventador has the crazy doors?

I could be wrong. Maybe. Jamie, is that true or not? Can I ask Jamie stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that the only thing? Yeah. No.

I'd be like a jerk. I don't know how to look that up. That's just the doors I'm looking at. I say Aventador doors. There's a company that does it for people, for other cars. Oh, God. I've seen that in a Mustang. Some dude had a Mustang with Lamborghini doors.

Yeah, they love to do that. It's just a dumb way to do a door. It really is. Does your BMW have that? Jesus, why do you? Yeah, it does, actually. It does. I was hoping you wouldn't mention that.

Yeah, the I8 does have that. How is that? How is that car? I love that car, but most people hate it. It has very narrow tires. It's very narrow tires it's very narrow skinny tire I put wider tires on it the opposer but I have wider tires on it but it's not a very fast car that's a very good-looking car it looks like it

would be fast it looks that way yeah so like a common misconception is that when people think it looks fast and they try to race me so on the highway on the highway I'm just cruising like you know going 70 miles an hour and then there's like this this you know this v6 Passat will pull next to me and he'll start like revving me to engage me on and I don't engage just in case joke if this guy has something on the hood he could take me out so for the most part I'm just kind of like I just cruise I'm like hey have a nice day you like my car thank you very much and that's pretty much it yeah the revving next to you on the highway. What an unfortunate thing.

Do you get that in your plaid? Really? Yeah. You ever throw the hammer down and show them who's boss? No. Really? No, it's because it's boss. You don't have to. Right.

That car goes zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds. Seriously. It's a preposterously fast car. Everything is awesome except the steering wheel. Right. Steering wheel sucks. Let me ask you a question. As great as that Tesla is, and this is a common debate I get into all the time

with Tesla owners, where are your other cars? Do you still own them? Yeah. You have the Porsche still? Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. It's very,

it's from a car enthusiast perspective, as great as that car is, you can't only have that car. There are other cars that check certain boxes for you that do other things that the Plaid doesn't do. Well, I'm a big fan of the old muscle cars. I have a few. You have the Corvette still?

Yeah, I have that. I have a few like 60s, 70s muscle cars. Right. Those, they give you the emotions. Yes. Yeah. The car. Yeah. Which car is that? That actually sounded very familiar.

I don't know. My impressions of cars suck. But I love the old V8 muscle cars, but it's because I was in high school in the 80s, and that's what everybody wanted. Right. That's imprinted in my brain. That's what I always wanted muscle cars if you think about it they're slow they're inefficient they don't they don't do anything well they don't handle well nope but they give you the emotion they stick around you compare to the plaid the plaid wipes it's it wipes the floor with those cars but there's just something about and this is an enthusiast thing a lot of people don't really understand this when they buy a tesla they're just like why have anything else right and it's like well these cars do other things the Tesla doesn't do. When you think about it, they have autopilot.

It has Netflix. It has a lot of things in the car to take away from the fact that it's a very mundane driving experience. Unless you're flooring it, that platter is like a Camry. It's very calm and smooth unless you're flooring it and then it's a roller coaster ride. Right. It's like, holy crap. But it's silent. Right.

There's something about the driving experience. It's very comfortable. It's very relaxing. I love driving it to work, but it's not the same experience. It's like I have an E46 M3. Oh, you do? Yeah. Nice.

I love it. Modified? Stock? It has a supercharger. Oh, okay. It's got a dyno set up. Nice. Yeah.

But it's not the fastest car in the world, but it's so connected. It's fun. You feel that car. You feel the turn in, the way it handles. It's just like that car gives you emotions that the Tesla just will not give you. And I think, yeah, I think people don't really understand it. But I'm glad you said that because of all the enthusiasts And I think, yeah, I think people don't really understand it. But I'm glad you said that because of all the enthusiasts that I know, as great as Teslas are, they still have their gas cars.

Yeah. They still have all those. If I had to only have one car, it might be the Tesla because it's like so easy to drive. Right. But the charging thing's a bitch. Really? If I didn't have one at my house and I didn't have one here, a charging port, like if I lived in an apartment and I couldn't get charged anywhere. I have friends that don't have a charging thing at their house and it's fucking annoying.

You got to go somewhere. It's funny how people want Teslas so bad they're willing to live with a lot of the inconveniences of them, for example. Yeah. conveniences of them for example, you know, I Think they were saying on a I forget what investing cited is Tesla owners have the longest Lease terms the longest payment terms of any other manufacturer people just want these cars so much It's not even funny You live in apartment it's it is tough because a lot of people are starting to petition to their apartments to say

Install a charging station because I have a Tesla and I have every right to charge my car here. Sort of. You sort of do. Right. Because it costs money to charge. Who's paying for that money? You're going to have a pay thing? They won't pay. They don't want to pay. They would just fucking let me charge you. Just do it. And then they'll leave the complex two months later.

And then you have a charger sitting there. And then also, you can't have a Tesla charger because then what if someone has one of them e-Mustangs? Exactly. And then it won't really fit the charger thing. Which is very weird. It has to be a universal charger. I think Tesla is looking into opening it up to everyone.

And I think that's a scary move because Tesla's leg up on everyone is the fact that they have one of the best charging infrastructures, period. Yeah. Right? But when you start letting other knuckleheads in there, it's like, well, if someone doesn't like Tesla, they go, oh, maybe this Mustang Mach-E isn't so bad. Right. Or maybe the new BMW isn't so bad. So I kind of, maybe it's a bold move in doing that because they're so confident that no one's going to take their seat.

They're just like, hey, let's open it up for the peasants. You know what I mean? I think it's only got to be sort of a philanthropic move or just a kindness move. It's not a good business move. No. Because there's cars like the Taycan. I have a friend who has a Taycan. I love those things.

He says it's fucking incredible. I want one so bad. I do want one. He said the interior is so superior and the way it handles and drives is superior. Have you been in it? No, I haven't. I've seen one drive by. That's it.

Never been in one. No, they're a great car. But that's the sad part, because I bought my first Porsche recently, by the way. Oh, yeah? What'd you get? A 911 Turbo. Ooh, what year? Thank you.

It's a 16. Nice. 16 Turbo S. I love that car so much. I actually sold, I had an Audi RS7 that I sold because that car is that great. And I'll tell you, every month that goes by, I'm probably going to keep selling cars because I love that one so much. It's a pretty amazing car. You have a GT3?

Yeah, GT3 RS. You know the deal. Shark Works car. You know the deal. Yeah. It does everything perfectly. Yeah, it's a pretty amazing car. And the turbo, like that

year, that's a 992, right? 991. It's a 991. So that year is pretty bulletproof. I had a 996 turbo. It kept breaking. A bunch of shit. The shift linkage broke twice. Where I was in gear and I was shifting gear it just went clink and just started floating around. On two different occasions. Really? A bunch of shit. The shift linkage broke twice. Really? Where I was in gear and I was shifting gear, it just went clink and just started floating

around. I didn't know that happened. On two different occasions. Really? Yeah. And I only had it for two years. It broke a bunch of times. The fuel gauge broke.

Oh, jeez. Where it just ran out of gas on the highway. Like, what the fuck? Really? I think they made a lot of improvements. I have the PDK. Mine's not the... I have the ones that just shifts like that. And it's been pretty good so far.

No, that's what I'm saying. Like by the time it got to the 997 and the 991, it's bulletproof. The new ones are supposed to be amongst the most reliable cars you could buy. Right. I think the new 911 Turbo lightweight, I think it's the fastest car in the world to like 30. I don't know what that means. That means much at all. But I think it's one of the few the world to like 30. I don't know what that means. That means much at all. But I think it's one of the few gas cars that could actually compete with the Plaid in terms of acceleration. That's the Turbo S lightweight, right? Turbo S lightweight,

yes. Yeah. That's a ridiculous car. Yeah. And it's weird too. The Plaid's great in every way, but I would rather have the Turbo. Is that weird to me? Because it's if I'm going to live with one car I would want one that is still it's a honestly a marvel of technology. The Plaid is too but all that does it takes energy from the battery and goes to two electric motors. The Porsche everything is tuned. The exhaust is tuned for a certain sound. The engine is tuned for a certain sound. Everything from that car is handmade just for driver pleasure. Whereas the Plaid is more like, hey, listen, this is Netflix.

Look at that cool little screen. The car drives for you. I don't want a car that could drive for you, which is why you'll see a lot of supercars don't do that. The cars that everyone achieves to be, they don't drive for you because they want you to drive them. Right. They want you to feel it. Like a supercar wants you to feel the car. It's like it gives you a feeling, an excitement of emotion. But the problem with the turbo is that sound is not as good as the sound from like the GT3. No, it's not. But the GT3 was a lot of my range. That's the only thing. The GT3 has that high revving.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing. Right. And the shifting of the gears, the manuals, everything. Right. It's everything with those cars.

I think I'm getting lazy and old. They'll have the car just shift. Just do the job for me, please. It's still pretty fun. It's fun, but it sounds, you know how cars sound. Have you been in a Porsche with a PDK or whatever shift thing you have?

Just the shifts are so crisp and fast. Yeah. You just sit there, and you're just amazed by it. I never get bored going through the gears in that car, just flat footing it. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. It just sounds great. Do you use the paddles ever? I never have used the paddles.

Yeah, I never. I used to have a BMW that had paddles. I never used it. Yeah. I just downshift, put it in sport, and the car does everything. It's such a cool car. Well, the other thing is the handling on those things is telepathic. It's so good.

It is. It is. And a lot of that went to the Taycan as well. Yeah. The Taycan's interesting because it's inferior to the Plaid in a lot of ways. Not handling, no. How is it inferior? It's not as fast as the Plaid.

How much difference? Less than people would actually notice. It's probably like a, I would say, half a second or so, half a second slower. But people go by those metrics all the time. In the real world, they're probably just as fast as each other. But on the track, the Plaid has another maybe 10 miles an hour or so of traffic. So it is the faster car.

Technology-wise, Tesla has it beat. It has the charging network. It has the tech. It has the self-driving features. It has everything. But I would prefer the Taycan only because you don't see them everywhere. You could option out a Tycon. I got bored one night. I think I optioned one out to a quarter of a million dollars, that thing. Imagine

paying a quarter mil for a bespoke Porsche and a plaid wiping the floor with you. That's true. You know what I mean? Like it's, you could pick, you could, you could give them a swatch of like your wife's underwear and they'll make the interior that color. Really? I didn't know that, yeah. Or your girlfriend or boyfriend, whatever. Give them the thing, they'll make the entire interior, whatever color you want, the whole car is custom made, but you'll still lose to a plaid at the end of the day, which is $100,000 less than that car.

It seems kind of weird that they wouldn't juice that sucker up to make it as fast as a plaid. I think they probably didn't see the plaid coming. Really? How did they notid? I think they probably didn't see the plaid coming. Really? How did they not know? I don't know. But even the original S, like the P100D, the first one that I had was 0 to 60 in two and a half seconds.

Yeah, that was insane. Pretty fast. That's a pretty fast car. Does the plaid feel significantly faster? It feels faster. It feels like it defies time. Right. Like it defies physics.

It defies time. Right. Like it defies physics. So I think that's the difference between, I feel like the P100D and the Taycan Turbo are probably a little bit more similar than the Plaid. The Plaid's a different plane. The Plaid just destroys everything. Yeah. Everything. It's a preposterously fast car.

Right. But again, it doesn't have a fucking horn in the center. Nope. It doesn't have a fucking horn in the center. Nope. It doesn't have a stalk for the blinkers. Nope. Or the windshield wipers. They won't just rub your brain like Xavier. Like, mm, have the horn, right?

You even change gears with the screen. You go backwards. I hate that so much. You have to swipe to park drive. It's silly. I can't do that. It's silly. But other than that, the driving experience and just the tech in the car is incredible.

I just think they're going too far minimalist with buttons and stuff. So you come from a lot of people that come from luxury vehicles, like Mercedes, high end cars like S-classes. They go to a Tesla, they're just like, what's all this? These seats don't vibrate. Right. You know what I mean? Where are the contours and the dash?

The platt's just like a straight line. It's very minimalist. Yoke and a screen. Yeah, if you look at, I haven't seen the, I saw one of those new BMW electric, not BMW, excuse me, Mercedes electric cars in the wild. EQS, I think it's called. It's beautiful. Really, you think so? Yeah, I loved it.

I wasn't a huge fan of it. Have you seen it in the wild? I have seen it in the wild, yeah. I enjoyed it. I thought it was pretty, I saw it at a grocery store. I was like, that thing looks sick. It looks very futuristic. Right.

But is that fast? Like, how is that? You know what? It's, I'll tell you right now, a car that I do like that I drove maybe like two weeks ago, the Lucid. Ah, I've heard of those. I really like that car. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of.

So this is the BMW. Oh, there it is. 3.4 seconds acceleration. That's slow. Dog shit. That's slow compared to everything else That's two seconds slower than almost two seconds slower than a Tesla, but look how cool that looks looks like a bug Oh, I love it. Really? I think it looks great lightning reflexes But look at the range 277 that's that's like my old axe right now. That's whack. Yeah, I mean just whack

Accelerations whack is that the best they can do? 277 miles. That's like my old X right now. Yeah, it's whack. The range is whack. The acceleration is whack. Is that the best they can do? Is that the best one? Yeah, that's the AMG version. Oh, God. Really? Yeah.

There might be some extra. I just don't understand. So who's going to buy that? Some old dude who loves Mercedes but also wants an electric car. Yeah, Tesla tech is too new and too forward. I guess I'm going to get 270 miles of range. That was like 10 years ago. Yeah, and if your batteries degrade on that thing, then you're looking at like...

You throw it away. Yeah, it's like... There was some talk at one point in time of you being able to go to a service station and they would, within five minutes, swap out your batteries. That died so quickly. Put in the new batteries that are fully charged.

That died so quickly. It would happen. The logistics of it didn't make any sense. When you pull up to a station, it's like, well, who owns this battery? That battery they keep swapping could degrade as well. It just didn't work. It was a great presentation, though. It was Elon Musk on stage comparing, filling up, I think it was an Audi sedan to the brim at a gas station

versus his quick-changing station. But logistically, it would just never work. Like if your car is not on the sensors properly, they couldn't adjust it to the car. As they started making revisions to the cars, the hardware was in different places as well. So unless you keep the design of that car the same over the next 10 years, it just wouldn't – it would make sense then, but you're not going to do that. Your cars are constantly changing and evolving. Also, how many batteries are you going to need at one of those stations? What if you have 100 cars come in in a day and they want, like, 100 people coming in for gas is probably normal for a gas station.

If 100 people come in for new batteries, fuck. Yeah, you'd have to wait in line. And then where do those batteries come from? Right. Are those batteries charged in the meantime? Right. Or do you just get a new battery every time and then that's a hundred batteries to different it just didn't make any sense also we have to come to grips with what is in the batteries like this is these are conflict minerals and they they come from the Congo they come from

parts of the world that are in war right It's like, it's not really that green. Yeah, that's a big debate, man. I don't, I can't speak on that because I don't really, a lot of the news I get, unfortunately, comes from the Tesla fanboys beating the door down. Like, no, it's fine. It only used a minute amount of lithium. It's no big deal.

You just scrape it off the top of water. It's really easy to get. What? Is that real? Is that what they're saying? Scrape it off the top of water? It's really easy to mine. I mean, all those big holes that they dig into the ground,

that's just, it's exaggerated. That's what I've been told. That's what I've been told. But I don't drive a Tesla anymore, so it's fine. Do you don't drive this anymore? Do you sell this, the V8? No, the V8. Is that really a Tesla, though?

I don't know how active this is, but there is a swap station network in China. Really? But I think it's only for this kind of. That one specific car? Must be a kind of car, yeah. And they have their own network. It says they do 30,000 a day.

So you say, really? Yeah. Play that video. You pay for a subscription. You pay for a subscription? Yeah, I was trying to find all the detail. At the bottom, it says kind of the details. Like, what kind of vehicles do they?

So Tesla, they're making Teslas over there, right? So it says battery swaps up to 200,000 kilowatt of rapid recharging per month. If anything over this costs extra in Europe, NIO charges CO 20 kilowatts, which is okay. So here's a question. I think Tesla's route was why do battery swaps when you could just upgrade the charging infrastructure? When you're at a Tesla supercharger, those things charge at, I think I saw the rate of a Model 3 I was in, like 1,000 miles an hour.

So you're pumping all that juice into the battery. Does it even make sense to do a battery swap financially? Because Tesla has to have at least hundreds of batteries on hand just in case. How long does it take to fully charge if you go to a supercharger station, fully charged like a Model 3? Gosh, if no one's around, you could probably charge it in like an hour and change. No joke. Fully charged from dead to fully charged? Fully charged, yeah. I'd say maybe it tops an hour and a half.

That's pretty impressive. I mean, as they get higher, obviously, as the battery capacity gets higher, the charge rate slows down because they can't pump as much energy into it when the battery's almost full. But those things are charged lightning fast now. I mean, you're not spending more than two hours at a charging station

unless there's like 50,000 other cars there. If there's 50,000 other cars, it just like throttles? It throttles and the rate slows down because it has to distribute to everyone. That's annoying. Yeah. I didn't know that. It could be annoying. Yeah, it definitely throttles.

So it's like a lot of people using the Wi-Fi. Correct. It slows down. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no is correct. So what was the motivation to build this VA Tesla? That's a good question.

So I – Pull up a video of Rich's YouTube channel. Tesla got a – as I was building different Teslas over the years, a lot of the – I guess the fanboys got to me after a while. Have you been around Tesla fanatics, like ultra fanatics that are just like – I try to avoid all fanatics. Yes, gosh. In every single area. Yes, every genre, yes.

Everything whatsoever, yes. They're too crazy. It's a bit much. So what started happening over time was Tesla kind of pulled the reins in on ordering parts for cars. If I want to order like a battery or a motor, a battery, a motor, a charger,

I can't do those things. Like those are restricted parts. You can't do that. So what that tells me is that the product that I bought, the product I spent all this money on, I can't, I don't really own it. Right.

Because they're in control of the parts for it. Like an iPhone. Correct, yes. Exactly like iPhone. So I said to myself, you know what? That's a funny clip. That's what actually ran out of gas there. Go figure. I ran out of gas there. Go figure.

I ran out of gas. And that's actually an electric Tesla bringing me gas. That's a different story. But what ended up happening was over time it got worse and worse. Over time it's like, well, what's the VIN number to this car? Oh, we don't believe in selling you these parts. This isn't going to work. That car is a salvaged car.

You can't do it. And I said to myself, you know what? What can I do to this vehicle to make it so that I can get parts easy and it's easy to service and I have full control over it? I said, you know what? I'm a Chevy fanboy. I'm going to throw an LS in there. Throwing an LS in there, that allows me to get parts literally off the shelf from AutoZone. Like for Tesla, if my Tesla breaks, let's just say you're in your plaid right now, right?

And you break down the side of the road. And the tow truck driver says, what do you want me to bring you? You're going to say AutoZone or Advanced Auto Parts or Pep Boys? No. There isn't a single part sold for those cars there. If I break down the V8 Tesla, you can pull me anywhere. I could get pistons, rods, you name it, lifters, valves for that car, literally anywhere, and I have full control over it.

How did you make the V8 engine interface with the Tesla dashboard? That's a great question. So all cars have what's known as an accessory mode, right? The drive rails aren't on, and the engine isn't on, but the accessories are on. You go into a car, the screen turns on, but the engine isn't on. So Tesla effectively believes it's an accessory mode right now. All the windows work, the headlights work, the turn signals work, everything works. It's just that the last button to turn on the drive rails and actually start the car, that's no longer there. And that's where the V8 engine takes over. So imagine you have your,

I don't know, you have your Porsche, right? Your GT3. You get in that car, you're sitting in it right now, and you do everything but turn the engine over. All the accessories work. The lights work, the radio works, everything works, except for that last phase to turn the fuel pump on, set the spark plugs on, to turn the engine over. So the Tesla just thinks it's on and idle but not ready to drive. Really? Yeah. And how did you rig that? So basically any Tesla will do that.

You pull a Tesla out of a junkyard, you could get in it, sit in it, make sure it's getting power, and you could at least get to that step. Now where the V8 takes over is V8s are probably the dumbest engine alive. You give it a battery to start it over, and you give it fuel, it's going to run. So there's a separate control system for the engine itself. So we have a Haltech system that communicates with that. So there's actually two separate systems that control the car. And if one of those systems dies, the car will still function.

If the Tesla screen dies all of a sudden and Tesla says, you know what, I had enough of this, that V8, it'll still turn on and I can still go wherever I want. You just won't have a speedometer and you won't have a fuel gauge. Well, actually I will because the separate system, the Haltech system, controls the gas engine still. So there's two independent systems that work separate of each other. So the separate system, what kind of dashboard are you looking at? Are you looking at? Are you looking at the same dashboard that a regular Tesla has? Same. So that speedometer still works too, because it goes by the wheel speed sensors. That speedometer still works. The navigation works.

The Bluetooth works. The car works. Really? If you were to sit in that car right now, besides the six-speed shifter, you wouldn't be able to tell anything special about it. So you have a six-speed manual in there? Six-speed manual shifter, yeah. You'll see it right there in that video right there. Back it up a little bit. You call it Ice-T? Ice-T, yeah.

Eternal combustion engine T. Engine Tesla, yeah. I like it. So there's a shifter right in the middle, and it's a six-speed. It's sequentially shifted. You tap it forward and tap it back to go up and down. Oh, okay.

That's it right there. Like a race car. That's it right there, yep. What is that second gear to the left of it? That's to engage reverse. Oh. So you pull back to go in reverse. Wow.

Yeah. So that's the only way you could tell. I mean, everything else works on the screen. Like the door indicator buttons work, the sunroof works. Literally everything works in that car. How hard was this to do? It took a team of us. It was, we have Joshua, our fabricator.

We had to literally cut the car in half. Really? To form the transmission tunnel. Because Teslas are one of the few cars which are great because they were designed as EVs only. Right. Some companies will take a gas car and then throw an electric drivetrain in it and call it a day. Teslas were designed from the ground up to be electric vehicles. Well, the Model S was.

So the floor is completely flat If for rear-wheel drive cars you have a driveshaft that goes from the front to the back Well, we couldn't put that there because the floor is flat. We have to cut the car in half Install the engine and then build a transmission tunnel over that driveshaft from the front all the way back Also a transmission tunnel as well. Whoa, because there's the transmission, you know, that sticks out like a couple feet. So this is all fabricated. All fabrication. All fabricated.

I mean, countless hours have gone into that. How long from the time you had this idea to the actual starting and driving? About two years. Wow. That's such a crazy commitment. You know how it is. The planning stages are like, hmm, yeah, I'm going to do this. Right.

Yeah, I'm going to do it. I should do it. How much is that? Nah, I'm not going to do it. I was contemplating for a while, and then I said, you know what? I got to commit to this. Let's start doing this. Hooked up with Joshua.

He's like, hey, listen. He actually, fun fact, so he was watching one of the videos, and he's just like, hey, if you need help with fabrication stuff, let me know. He used to build NASCARs, like two chassis okay he says I could do stuff never seen his work before I took that v8 Tesla dropped it off at his house and I said I trust you on this one and then that was it the rest was history so I would we would go there shoot video the first start video was there and we just worked on it until the end, and then it's running and driving. So when you cut it in half, do you have to do something to ensure the rigidity of the structure?

Yeah, there's bracing and reinforcements all over the car. So is it much heavier than the original car? It's about 1,200 pounds lighter than the original car. Really? Yes. Because of the electric engine and the batteries missing? 1,200 pounds lighter than the original car. Really?

Yes. Because of the electric engine and the batteries missing? If you think about it, the average battery weight of a Tesla is well over 1,000 pounds, 1,100 pounds in some cases. That makes sense. There was a rear motor subframe that was like 350 pounds, 400 pounds. Then there's a front motor as well. So the front motor, after moving all that weight, putting an engine and a transmission, and LS is one of the lightest engines they make with the drivetrain, that car went from 4,975 pounds to like 3,300 pounds.

The car weighs next to nothing now. Wow. Comparably speaking. 3,000 pounds for a sedan is really light. It's very light. And that has the full interior, the seats, it has everything in there. That's like sports car light. Yeah. It's a light car. You'd be amazed at how much you could remove a shot. That's the tunnel right there. That's all the bracing of the tunnel. So we had

to build that. So that large, that was the first start. That was really fun. We had to build that tunnel, all the bracing in it so it wouldn't fall apart. So all that structural tubing going across it so the car doesn't pancake itself, and that's the work. Now, when you drive this thing, obviously it wasn't designed to have an engine in the front and a transmission tunnel and all that. That was a fake yoke.

We were going to put a yoke in it as a joke. We ended up not doing that because it's a waste of time. I don't like the yoke. No. I don't like it as a steering choice. It just sucks when you're trying to park and pull into places. Right. How much did it affect the way the car handles the car handles great we took it on a racetrack um so ebay motors actually we're sponsored by them they brought us out to a sonoma raceway

and um we were just doing drone outs and burnouts around their circle track the car it feels you know what it feels like it feels like uh almost like, what's a four-door muscle car? A modern muscle car. A Charger. Charger. Yeah. Cadillac CTS. Charger SRT. Yeah, Cadillac. Cadillac. It's more like a Cadillac CTS-V. Wow. And it's just, it's light. It's fun. It'll do a burnout. I was thinking I was going like 30 miles an hour, stomped on it, rolling burnout until like almost 100. The thing is ridiculously fun. Yeah, it's a really fun car. But that's the thing. The biggest debate was, Rich, why are you doing this?

Because the finished product is slower than a normal Tesla. Right? That's fair enough. 0 to 60 is not as fast. It's rear wheel drive only now. It'll spin the tires until 100, no problem. There's no autopilot. That doesn't work anymore. But I'll tell you right now, I took that car

to a show. Parked it next to a Plaid, the fastest and most amazing car built right now. People didn't even know it was a Plaid next to me. People went crazy over that car. And that's why it was built. Because of the novelty. Because

it's the novelty. Listen, that's probably the only one that's going to get built. There's no sense in making a second one because let's be real, the car was expensive to make and it isn't as fast as a regular Tesla. It's just to show what you can do when you put your mind to it. And I'll tell you, man, I've had offers to buy that car for ridiculous amounts of money just because of what it is. You can work on it. You could modify it yourself. And it's the spirit of car enthusiasm. Are you going to sell it? Never. Never? Never. You said never. I have a big problem, Joe. I keep every car I build. I keep every car that's that represents a memory for me, whether it's friends coming together for a common cause,

building something, having all those memories, I never sell them. Really? Yeah, so the V8 Tesla is one of them because I could see myself already, that car has made so many memories as friends. If I sell that car and I see some knucklehead driving it down the street,

I'll be like, that's my car. I want that. Why are you having fun in that? Especially the amount of time involved be like, that's my car. I want that. Why are you having fun in that? Especially the amount of time involved in thinking. That one I get. Right. About the engineering behind it. Because what's it worth to someone? $100? $150? $200? I mean, no one's going to pay $200 for it. Let's just say $150 for that car. That's cool. But now what? I don't have my car back you know right and now you're gonna make something else anyway right true the ls what is the stock ls out of the box horsepower ls i

think about 4 425 or something like that and with a 3 000 pound car that's probably great it's really fun i think we did a long tube headers a few other modifications to it i think it's about like 470 or so right now and then we're actually putting a supercharger on it in another few months. That's going back to SEMA. But yeah, that's the thing. That's why I enjoy about it. You're plaid right now, right? Let's just say you get bored of the power, right?

But what do you do to it? As a car enthusiast, your Porsche or GT3 RS, you could do a million different things to it. It's shot works. It's been modified already. Your old muscle cars, you could improve the handling, the braking, the power do a million different things to it. It's shot works. It's been modified already. Your old muscle cars, you could improve the handling, the braking, the power, add whatever you want. If you're in a regular Tesla, as an enthusiast, I actually got very bored of mine because the way you get it is the way it's going to stay unless you buy a plaid or you get on

your knees and beg Elon to release a software update to give you 30 more horsepower. Well, there's a company called Unplugged. Do you know about them? Of course. Unplugged Performance, Ben. I know them very well. Yeah, so they will take a Tesla, and they will jazz it up and put wider tires and fender flares and a rear spoiler. They get crazy.

Which is cool, but I want more power. Right. When I step my foot down, I want my eyes to go in the back of my head. Right. And in the regular Tesla, you could add a little suspension stuff you want to feel great around corners, but I want that power. I want one with a stoplight. I see everyone in the rear of your mirror. So with the V8 Tesla, granted, no, it's nothing crazy now.

It's fun to drive. But you know what the power of a fully built LS engine is. There's no limit. There's no limit. You can keep going. you can keep going. You can keep going. The Plaid makes about, you're probably putting out maybe 1,100 horsepower now

on your Plaid, I think. Yeah, something like that. Or 1,200, something like that. Which is hilarious. Which is insane. The VA Tesla, you could, great, you're only putting the power to the rear wheels, but you could have 1,500, 2,000, you name it.

Really? LS engine, yeah, it's infinite power. 3,000 horsepower if you want. What? Yeah. What do you have to do to do LS engine, yeah. It's infinite power. 3,000 horsepower if you want. What? Yeah. What do you have to do to do that? You have to redesign the whole engine. You have to build the whole thing, but yeah.

You can get 3,000 horsepower out of an LS engine? Out of a V8 engine? Of course you can, yeah. Oh, my God. I had no idea. Forge block, yeah. You have to do literally everything, but yeah. And it's probably going to blow up in your face.

Absolutely. It's a ticking time bomb, but it's fun until it blows up. But that's a sort of car modification. Like you drive it, you blow it up, you rebuild it, and then you do it all over again. Like how many people have done those to Supras? Oh, God. Like those old 90s style Supras? There's an infinite amount of Supra owners that have been doing that.

I saw one sold. It was in my news feed yesterday. I think it sold for a quarter million dollars. Really? Yeah. A 94, 95 Supra. I think it sold for a quarter million dollars. Really? Yeah. A 94, 95 Supra. I'm like, what? You know what's a bitch, Joe? Nostalgia is a bitch. Yeah.

I recently purchased a couple of cars that I've always wanted when I was a kid. I've always wanted a Skyline. You know, the right-hand drive Skylines. You got one of those? I got one of those. And I've always wanted an Evo. You know those Mitsubishi Evo Lancer Evolution 8s? Always wanted one of those. I bought Skylines. You got one of those? I got one of those. And I've always wanted an Evo. You know those Mitsubishi Evo, Lancer Evolution 8s?

Always wanted one of those. I bought those cars, Joe. And the reason why nostalgia is a bitch is because they're slow as hell. From a modern standpoint, if you drive any modern car now, now that you have a Plaid, everything else – Everything's slow. It's a novelty. Yeah. So, like, I don't have a Plaid, but you have a plaid, everything else, everything's slow. It's a novelty. Yeah. So like I, I don't have a plaid, but I have 911 like the Evo. There's no Bluetooth. There's no leather seats.

The car rattles. It squeaks. The paint is terrible. It handles like a go-kart and it's awesome. But at the end of the day, it's a, it's a novelty. Yeah. So everything else that you drive, I mean, that car is 20 years old. The Skyline is 30 years old. And those cars, you get in them, there's no modern safety. They're not very fast. The shifter is notchy. They're economy cars in Japan. But here they're really cool. I've driven them a total of maybe seven miles.

And I'm like, I think I'm done here. I'm going back to the Porsche. Thank you. So that's the tough part. So you just have it and you're just going to hang on to it for a while? I'll probably get rid of the Skyline first. Because when I was a kid, I've always wanted an Evo. So I think I'll fix that, build it up, make it really nice. But the Skyline is going to go for sure.

Is it weird to drive with the right-hand side? Very weird. It is. So you can't shift fast because my left hand is still learning how to do that. Yeah. So you can't shift fast because my left hand is still learning how to do that. But it's just very challenging to get used to that. I drove it for a while. I'm like, why am I driving this left-hand drive, not very fast, accelerating vehicle? In order to make it fast, I'd have to spend $10,000, $20,000, $30,000.

At the end of the day, I just spent 50 grand and what do I have? A car that's still slower than its nearest competitor, modern competitor. The thrill of driving though, it's like disproportionate sometimes to the actual speed you go. Like if you drive like an old Porsche, like a 1970 911. They're not fast. No. But it feels quick. Yes. Like there's something to the feel of it.

You're very connected with the road. Absolutely. You don't have to drive a fast car. Driving a slow car fast is an unbelievably rewarding experience. I drove one of my friend's cars, Sam. He has a Daihatsu Mira, and it's a right-hand drive car, all-wheel drive, turbo, and the car is about this big. I don't even know what it is. Yeah, I didn't either until I saw it.

Daihatsu? Daihatsu Mira, yeah. Who makes that? Daihatsu. What do they make besides that one car? Refrigerators. I have no idea what they make. Right. So, so I drove that and we were driving it. I was rolling through the gears at right. It's all wheel drive turbo. It's fun. There we go. That's what it is. The Hatsu. Oh my God. That thing's disgusting. It really is. What is that? I have no idea what that is. Jet engine.

Yeah. It definitely needs it. But I'm, so look at the black one to the, to the, on definitely needs it. So look at the black one on top right there. It looks just like that. You got one of those? So I drove it, and I'm like, I was going through the gears, Joe. I'm not kidding you, not. Red line, red, red, red. I look down. I'm going like 48 miles an hour.

So that's what it is. It's driving a slow car fast with that same experience. It's pretty fun. And then that car being, thank God I didn't get that one, but it being right-hand drive is funny because the car is so small, it doesn't matter what side you're on. The car is so narrow. Right, because it's so tiny. It's so tiny. It doesn't matter at all. What are the regulations for driving a right-hand drive car? Is it just you just register it and drive it? It's fine?

for driving a right-hand drive car? Is it just you just register it and drive it? It's fine? You normally register it and drive it. However, a lot of states are trying to crack down on this thing called a key truck. A key truck is very similar to what I sent you. It's just a pickup truck version of it. And a lot of states are cracking down because they're not safe.

There's just been a flood of Japanese cars being imported because they're great on gas and they're normally pretty clean. There's just been a flood of Japanese cars being imported because they're great on gas and they're normally pretty clean. And in the U.S. right now, if you wanted to get a small pickup truck, you have to buy, what, like a Ford Maverick or something like that, which will cost you $30,000 at the end of the day. A lot of people have been importing these little mini key cars from Japan, these really small trucks that are great. I mean, they have huge beds. You could fit all kinds of stuff in them going to Home Depot and get some lumber. But a lot of states are starting to crack down on them because, oh, there we go. AutoZam. Those are sick.

Yes. That's a key car. Mazda. AZ1. AZ1. Those are awesome cars. So what is- It's a pickup truck, a key truck.

That's a key car? That's a key car. It's the designation. Type in key truck, K-E-I truck. How is that a pickup truck? Yeah, it's a key car. It's the designation. Type in key truck, K-E-I truck. How is that a pickup truck? Oh no, you'll see. If you type in key K-E-I truck, you'll see it. Okay, but that's just a K-E-I car.

Yes. There we go. Those are the trucks. Okay, so it has a little flatbed. It has a little flatbed. The sides fold down. That thing's ridiculous. They have incredible utility, but a lot of states are cracking down on them because it's one of the most dangerous things you could put on the road.

Why? If you get into a car accident with that, there's no safe, there's no airbags, there's no crumples. Your knees are the crumple zone in those cars. Oh, I see. So you could have a little garden back there, you see? Drift. Yeah. He's got a drift car.

But they are fun. But some places are saying these are so dangerous that we don't want them on the road anymore. When it comes to nostalgia, for me, there's one car that I've been thinking about a lot lately. It's the NSX. Oh, my gosh. I had two NSXs. You have? I used to.

I don't have any anymore. Okay. I had one in the 90s with the flip-up headlights, and I had another one in 2005. With the static ones. Yes. Yeah. Those are nice cars, man. It wasn't fast, but I put a CompTech supercharger on it,

and it got it into the 400 horsepower range. How was it? It was great. It was fun. But it was just there's something about the cockpit and the feel of that car. I want the new. You like the new one?

I like the new one. They're not making them anymore. They stopped making them and the price has shot up. They're making the S. The S is the latest and greatest and it's supposed to be pretty fucking incredible.

How come you didn't get a second generation NSX? Because it's automatic. Yeah. What I liked about the first generation NSX was that it was a super lightweight

mid-engine car with a manual gearbox and it just felt like a little race car. Right. And when I sat in the cockpit, I was like, this is perfect. A fighter jet, yeah. It's good. And it's like this, you have this very small gauge cluster.

The shifter's right there. Right. Everything's ergonomic. Right. The seats feel really good. And it was just a joy to drive. And it's a tiny-ass car, too. Seeing an NSX next to any

modern sports car, everything else looks like pregnant and bloated. It's tiny and it handles really well and it's a fucking Honda. So it's bulletproof. Why'd you get rid of it, Joe? Why'd you get rid of two Hondas? I don't know. I don't know. Buy another one. It's young and dumb. They're only a hundred grand now. So yeah, go for it. Isn't that crazy? They're so expensive. They're more than they cost if you bought one new then. Correct. Yes. But it's because they're only 100 grand now so yeah go for it is that crazy they're so expensive they're more than they cost if you bought one new then correct yes but it's because they're good it's not like a corvette from that era is not 100 grand no it's not yeah it's like 17 dollars oh that looks sick is that an old one or yeah that's a 97 that's an older one that's not true yeah that's definitely not correct yeah but it looks modern even that looks modern today yeah oh it correct. That's an old one. Yeah. But it looks modern. That looks modern today. Yeah.

Oh, it's great. That's an older one, Jamie, because the headlights lift up. So that's pre, what was it, like 2002 or something like that? They haven't made a, I think they stopped. You know what the last pop-up headlight car was? I think it was a Corvette C5. One of the last pop-up headlight cars. That's the new one. There we go.

Go back to that other page that we were just on and click on the one below. It says 94 NSX. Yeah, that's a 94. There we go. So that's like, what year did it come out? 92 or something? I remember the first one I saw. It was in Boston.

Yeah. I saw a red one drive by with a black roof like that. You're like, what the hell is that? Right. They're beautiful. It looked amazing. It was like a Ferrari for people who are smart. Like Ferrari for someone who wanted to actually be able to drive it and not have it break down.

And here's the scary part, right? So going back to enthusiasm about driving a car, a V6 Accord today, you better watch the hell out. Yeah, it's going to bury me. It's going to bury you. Toast me. But it's just saying that there's a lot more to a car than just zero to 60 and how fast it is. And that's how I feel when I drive. The problem is they look fast.

It's like an i8. Yeah. It's i8 all over again. Yeah. And those have pretty skinny tires too, the old NSXs. But you can modify them and just to the moon. The Honda, the engine in the NSX, there's infinite potential because it's a Honda engine. You could do whatever you want to that. The BMW i8 has a three-cylinder Mini Cooper engine.

You're not getting very far with that. Really? Yeah. And an electric motor in the front that you can't crack either. So you're probably not getting far with those things. What's your overall horsepower in the i8? I think 360 or something like that. 370.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, the NSX I think was like 270. Yeah. So, I mean, I'd give an old NSX a run for its money. You might kill it. But anything other than that, it's like, I'm going to probably back off from that. But when I had the supercharger on mine, it made it a lot better.

Right. But at the end of the day, I didn't want to go wide body. Like there's a lot of, Google wide body NSX conversion. They look sick though. They look sick. But it's a little boy racer-ish though.

Yeah. What do you, I mean, you had that NSX how many years ago? 2005 is when I had it. Yeah, that wouldn't fit your look. You'd be like,

who the hell is this guy? Yeah. Is that Joe Rogan? It's just a little too, yeah. 2005 is when I had it Yeah that wouldn't fit your look Who the hell is this guy? Joe Rogan? It's just a little too That looks kind of sick though That looks pretty badass Look at that one I can't see you In that at all

I could see someone in a different Maybe nationality Maybe not you per se, but yeah. Maybe someone from another country. Yeah, maybe. From Asia, perhaps. Like that red one? Look at that one.

That looks sick. Oh, my God. But where are you going in that? Where are you going? Where are you going? That looks like a goddamn race car. Yeah. I mean, that's full on.

Look what he's done with the rear taillights and everything. That's barely an NSX. No. I'd still rock it, though. But I wouldn't go very far, though. I'd be like, hey, guys, I'll go to the grocery store, maybe get some cans of soup and come back. Yeah.

It's like, at the end of the day, what are you doing? I see that the original car, you kind of have to accept the dimensions. I like that. That's nice. That's subtle. Minus the logos on it. Yes. Yeah. I would rock that. That's subtle. Minus the logos on it. Yes. Yeah, I would rock that.

Yeah, the rear tail is a little much, the rear wing, but that's not bad. Right. That's not bad right there. Yeah. NSXR prototype. That is a video game. That's how real the video games are getting now, Joe. Oh, my God. Believe me, I've seen.

I got duped. I watched this Formula One race car launch itself through the air and then make a corner. I was like, is this possible? And my friend was like, it's a fucking video game, you idiot. It's a game, Joe. Relax. I didn't know. Oh, no way. Who the fuck?

You play games at all? No. No. No, I can't. I'm one of those people. I get addicted. Right. I used to be addicted to first person shooters.

Really? Yeah, Call of Duty and stuff like that? Yeah. We used to have a whole LAN set up at our old studio, and it was a real problem. Really? Yeah, we'd get in there and we'd play Quake. It was a real problem. We'd play for hours and hours, and I'd leave there nervous, and hands would be shaking.

Right. You want to shoot someone or something? But I was like, no. It's like the adrenaline from playing the game. And then if you got your ass kicked, you felt so bad. You're like, why do I feel terrible from this stupid-ass game? Yeah, right. And this is what kids are doing all day when they're playing, like, Modern Warfare and all these crazy games.

I know. Do you think, now it's going to get weird. Ready for this? Do you think there's any association with kids playing those violent games and school shootings? association with kids playing those violent games and school shootings i would uh say that there has to be some sort of an association with some people with acting out fantasies in a video game right and then wanting to do them in real life gotcha it's got for some people right but i think you would have to be so troubled i don't think a video game can turn you into a murderer. Absolutely not.

But I think a video game combined with all kinds of crazy trauma, fucked up life, psych medications, person who's like legitimately mentally ill. Right. Perhaps it would encourage you. It's a combination of all those things. Yeah. But the question is, should we limit video games because some people are disturbed? No, absolutely not.

I don't think so. No, that's a big debate whenever that happens. It's the video games. It's the guns. Yeah, but it's not. Because if you and I sat down and we played video games together and shot each other, we wouldn't think about shooting each other. No, it would not.

It's just fun. Right. For most people, it's just fun. It's just a just a fun game yeah like a car for most people is fun but for some people they would want to drive into a crowd of people because they're fucking crazy exactly yeah so you have that you have a person that's uh mentally and emotionally unstable who's dingy is that is that me i don't think it's me because that's super embarrassing i don't think no i don't have any friends yeah Anyways, so yeah, I think it's a lot of people. There's always a debate.

Every time some big event happens. Yeah. Was it the person? Even when it comes to even taking it back to autopilot. All those autopilot crashes. People just cry. I don't believe in autopilot. People just, you ever use it before?

No. Really? I mean, I'll use it occasionally to show off. Like, watch this. Look at this. That's cool, huh? Okay, shut it off. Shut it off. I don't. You don't believe in Elon Really? I mean, I'll use it occasionally to show off. Like, watch this. Look at this. That's cool, huh? Okay, shut it off. Shut it off.

I don't. You don't believe in Elon Musk? I do believe in Elon. I just don't believe in driving around with autopilot. I like to drive. Yeah. I feel the same exact way. I think there's been a lot of debate about what happens during autopilot.

Whose fault is it? Right. Is it the operator's fault or is it the car's fault? fault is it? Is it the operator's fault or is it the car's fault? And one of the issues that people have been struggling with is when there's an autopilot failure, when the car does something erratic or it crashes and then someone loses their life, who analyzes that data and how they analyze the data? Does Tesla necessarily give that over to the NHTSA or do they analyze it themselves and say, okay, it's fine? That's been a big trouble spot because all their data is encrypted.

They have it under lock and key. Who does the accident scene reconstruction for things like that? What about decisions that have to be made? What if someone is walking right in front of you, and to the left is an oncoming vehicle. Right. So you could either swerve into the oncoming vehicle or hit the person. What does the computer do?

I don't know if it's that advanced yet where it determines who's life to take. I think that's a big debate, though. What do you do? It's like if there's two people crossing the street and you could hit one versus the other, one of them's an old lady Do you hit her or do you hit the young person Like how do you make that decision Do you cripple the young person or take the old lady out

Right I know who I Who would you hit Joe The old lady Yeah for sure I'd run right into her Depends on who's at fault You know It's probably the old lady because she's old

Could be Could be She's probably old senile She's looking for her meds And then she's running the street. Like she shouldn't have been there. God, that's got to be a horrible feeling to hit somebody with a fucking car. I know.

A friend of mine got hit by a car and she was like, it was like two years ago. She's still fucked up. Really? She had a bunch of brain surgeries and shit. Oh, she got hit by one. Oh, yeah. She got hit by a car while she was jogging. Jeez.

Yeah. That sounds terrifying, man. She was running in LA. Someone wasn't paying attention. Just boom. How fast she got, you know? I know it doesn't matter. I don't know why I want to know. I don't think she has any idea. Did the person stop?

Yeah, they stopped. People saw it. But she got fucking wrecked. She got flown through the air and landed on her head. The whole deal. Oh, shit, man. That's worrisome, man. That always kind of scares me, being injured like that. Jogging with earphones on in LA is crazy.

Really? It's crazy, I mean, why would you do that? Is that why you left? That's why. That's why you left? Jogging with earphones on. I couldn't jog with it, goddammit. I was like, I need to go to a place where I could jog

and be isolated from sound. How do you like Texas? You've been here for two years now. Yeah, I love it. I love it. The people are so friendly. That's like one of the best parts about it. It's crazy here. The second I got here,

there's a lot of young, very good-looking professionals here. Like a lot. It's a pretty hip and modern. I do like it here. It's a hip city. It's very nice. It's a hip city. It's a nice combination of progressive and surrounded by Republicans. Yes. It's a weird sort of vibe.

It's like a get along with everybody vibe. Like we're okay, right? We're okay, right? Yeah. And it's just the food here is fantastic. It's very good. It's got an amazing comedy scene. The comedy scene's incredible. Is it because of you? I had something to do with it

Yeah, yeah, not that scene. I guess I was working on it. I respect it man. Yeah, I bought a club out here Did you really yeah? Yeah? Yeah? We're in the middle of construction right now You know Joe we had a conversation a while back where you thought that I should potentially do comedy Are you so is that still a thing you could do it? Maybe I'll maybe I'll go to your show I think any smart person who's funny can do comedy. Really? So you definitely could do comedy. It's a matter of whether or not you wanted to dedicate yourself and put the time in.

Oh, geez. It's a fucking, like, there's this girl who I saw do stand-up for the first time, and she's pretty funny. And I told her, I go, hey, I think you're really funny. You can really do this. And then I went to her Instagram page the other day and watched her a clip that she put up of an open mic and it reminded me of what a fucking journey this is what a grind right she's on the first steps of like what's that Georgia to the Appalachian Trail yep where it takes like six months to walk it exactly that's what she's doing but it's way worse than six months it's like she's on

the six-year trail so there's a difference between someone wanting to do it recreationally and also do it to put food on the table. I think I could do it as an open mic night and get a few chuckles. But when it comes to putting food on the table, my kids would die. There was no way they would make a movie of comedy. You could do it. It just would take

a Herculean effort and it would take years and years of dedicating yourself to open mic nights and then opening for people and then keeping writing on your act and keeping progressing so do before comedians get into it full-time they don't have jobs do they um I listen to stories like yours and like and Dave's and stuff it doesn't seem like it, it seems like this was your life thing for both of you. This is what you wanted to do. Dave was so young, he didn't have a job.

When I met Dave, he was 18, and he was already doing stand-up. Right. And he was already a professional. So they don't have, that's what I mean. I have a job now, in air quotes. Yeah. How do you? You also have a family.

Right. It's like the time that's spent away where you'd have to go to open mic nights and not just one, right? Right. You try to go to two or three at night. Damn. Yeah, right. So you're leaving your house at 7 and you're coming home at midnight every night. Right.

You know, and then you're frustrated because you bombed two out of three times. Right. It's like, what am I doing? Maybe even three out of three, right? Maybe, but that one where you didn't bomb, if you had one of those nights, that's what sparks you that's like god maybe i can do this that's your hit i got yeah and you start thinking what an amazing life it would be if you could just make a living telling jokes right it is possible to do you 100 could do it it's just whether or not you wanted to dedicate yourself and most of the people that start out like when when I started, I was 21. And I started at 21 because I thought that you had to be 21 to get into the club.

Right. Turns out they'll let people underage get in. There's like licenses where you can kind of like let people perform, but they have to leave after they perform. You can't hang around the bar. But it's just such a grind. It takes so long before you're like really making a living and really competent. And there's no one who can teach you how to do it. So you're kind of like a blind person bumping into walls.

Why can't someone teach you? A veteran comedian. They kind of can. Francis Foster was on yesterday from the show Trigonometry. And Francis for a long time actually taught a comedy course. And he's a funny comic. And he taught a comedy course and he's a funny comic and he taught a comedy course and that's the rarity most of the people that teach those things suck right they're usually failed comedians and they're trying to like eke out some money by

gotcha they put together a course and the course serves function though one of the things that it does serve is it a free course no it's? No. Nothing's ever free, is it? Nothing's ever free, is it, Joe? Not in that world. Damn it. No, those people that do that are doing that just- Some people would say, not me, that that's a scam. Right.

And that they're not teaching you shit. But what I think, they're providing a service where they're allowing you to get on stage for the first time. Really? And sometimes that's enough. Sometimes some people want to do comedy and they don't know how to start. And so, oh, I'll take a comedy course. And at the end of the course, they get you on stage and you perform. Oh, you actually get on stage?

Yes. A lot of them do that. Oh, shit. That's scary. Yeah, they have like a five-week thing or something like that. And they'll have you try out your jokes in front of the crowd of comedians that are also there and then after five weeks then they put together an actual show and friends and family will come and perform i couldn't do it that's the problem now where's do you you ever feel weird when you make a joke and

you're like wait my my family could be in here somewhere you ever think about that yeah all the time you gotta yeah you gotta be careful yeah i got to be careful. Yeah, because I'm nowhere near the level that you are, but I make those little shitty YouTube videos. And sometimes when I say something, I cringe. I'm like, my mom could be watching this. And it turns out she is watching it. She actually called me and told me. She called me and told me.

She goes, what was on your mind when you said that? Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, geez, don't do this, mom. Yeah, I cannot debate my material with my mother. Yeah. That's not going to happen. I'm not going to have those conversations. Does she watch? Does she?

No. Thank God. It's for the best. It's for the best. My mom, she only finds out about me if there's something in the news. Yeah. If there's something that comes across her news feed or something political. My mother is oddly political.

So it's like, dad's like, oh, glad you won't have Trump on your podcast. Oh, Harry Thomas. I'm like, come on. Let's not talk about this. I don't want to talk. Don't do this. I have a good life, okay, mom? I have a very good life.

I just don't want to have a conversation with my mom about stuff like that. Right. I just would prefer her to never see my act. Right. Never listen to my podcast. I'm just your son. Let's leave it at that. Are you guys on the same political level or no?

Well, my mother's like a die-hard Democrat. Like a blue no matter who and doesn't see any of the ridiculousness of the party. A lot of fun conversations there, I'm assuming. If she was young, she would definitely have her gender pronouns in her Twitter bio. Oh, boy.

She doesn't have a Twitter. So luckily. Thank goodness. My parents were hippies, man. Really? Yeah, hardcore hippies when I was a kid. Right. So luckily. Thank goodness. My parents were hippies, man. Really? Yeah, hardcore hippies when I was a kid. Nice. So they're all super democratized. But it's like, they're all whores.

All political parties are whores. They're whores. I agree. They're just fucking bought and sold by corporations. Absolutely. We all are in a sense. Aren't we all, Joe, when you think about it? In a way.

Aren't we all, Joe? I have a couple of crises i'm facing right now you know when you you have to know who your your overlords are right as as cool as we think we are there's there's still systems in place that pay us right right so i had this a big debate where you know i i do ads on on my channel and there was one that there was a credit card company, a credit card app that wanted to run an ad on the channel. I said fine. I looked at that name and that is the same name of the credit card company when I was a kid in college.

You know you buy books in college, they'll throw, hey, having hey having trouble paying for your books the throw the little credit card application in there and it was the same company that got me hooked on that in the first place I think I went through I mean buying books every year buying food that I was probably racking up close to eight or nine grand just in credit card bills when I got out of school and And so now that company, it's a shark company. The interest rate, it's like 20 something percent. It's ridiculous. And they actually go after young kids to say,

hey, look, we're going to ruin their credit at a young age so I can get them hooked on it and hopefully get some money out of them later. That same company reached out to me, didn't know who I was, obviously didn't care, and said, listen, I want you to run an ad on your channel for this. What I to do Joe what should I do because they're the ones that got me in debt in the first place right granted I

got myself out through I don't even know how that happened but that same company that same shark company comes and says you know what we want you for a second time what do you do Joe what do you do it's interesting right because they they are preying on young people and they do have like predatory percentages of interest that they charge right but it's your choice right right i and also like the the the loans that i have the biggest problem with the most problem are student loans yes because you can't get out of them you no matter what you do you go bankrupt doesn't of them. No matter what you do, you go bankrupt, doesn't matter. They still want it.

Fuck you, pay me. You die, your kids, hey, what's up, kids? Yeah, they'll go after your kids. Right. They will. Are we forgiving all student loans? Forgive me, I'm not up to date with what's going on. No?

They were supposed to. They're not going to. That was part of the Biden administration's promises coming in. They were going to exonerate people that were in prison for marijuana. Right. And then they were going to absolve student loan debt. Do they do that yet? No.

Neither one of those things. They're not doing shit. Yeah. It's all nonsense. They don't even talk about it anymore. What? Huh? Who's had that?

Who are you impersonating? Not me. Who are you? What is it? Yeah. Where am I? Yeah. Those things are disgusting.

Student loans are disgusting because you're taking a kid who's real nervous about their life. They want to do well, and they've got to go to college. Okay, I'll go to college. And then you're getting these incredible loans, which they're impossible to get out of. You can go bankrupt. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. There's people right now that are getting their Social Security docked for student loans that's amazing to me it's horrible i mean you're at the

end of your life yeah right you're like seven years old right that's it fuck you pay me that's incredible man it's there's no other loan like it right and you're giving these loans primarily to people don't have their frontal lobe formed yet. Nope. Which is crazy. I was a child. A child. Yeah. That's what pisses me off is that a small selfish part of me hopes that they don't forget the student loans because I paid mine off.

You know what I mean? Yeah. A lot of people feel like that. Fuck you. I didn't fucking pay. I didn't want money. People feel like that about health care too. Fuck you.

I didn't fucking pay. But I think we have to look at the big picture. And I think those predatory student loans are horrific for society. I agree. And they also make people make poor choices in terms of what you want to do for a living. Correct. Because you just go into these jobs because you're overwhelmed with debt. And then that has a giant effect on what kind of productivity you can sort of get out of your life because you can't really pursue your dreams if you have

these overwhelming burdens of debt money right so my I went to my my my dentist the other day because my daughter's in college now so that the big debate was whether or not she wanted to stay home and local and go to a Massachusetts school or go to the University of San Diego. Right. Go with that weather. Yeah, that's what I thought, too. We went to the University of San Diego and beautiful campus, beautiful school.

Everyone's great looking. Everyone's happy and friendly. Joe, you know how much schools go for now? Schools are stupid money now. How much is the tuition? You're looking at like 75k a year jesus christ some doors some schools you're knocking on 80 grand a year who could what if you have two kids who could yeah what if you have three or four like what do you like how are you supposed to if it's so crazy if you're a regular person how do you afford college either way that's

another debate but she she ended up staying in Mass, thank God. School was a lot cheaper. We worked some stuff out. I went to my dentist and I said, you know, my daughter's in college. And out of curiosity, like, you know, we were debating whether or not to have her go to one school and have student loans or another school and not have any student loans, right? And she said, well, I have student loans. I said, okay, like, well, you know, well, how are you doing so far? She goes, you know, I'm paying them, I'm surviving.

My husband is a dentist and I have a dentist too. So we do well for ourselves. I was like, awesome. I was like, hey, I have a question for you. Like kind of personal question. How much money in student loans do you have? She goes, ah, about like five or so. I was like, five grand.

Like, I don't understand this. Five. Half a million dollars. Five hundred thousand. I said, is that even possible? I didn't think that was possible, Joe. But it's a very possible number. So is that because of the interest?

That's because that's, she's been out of school for about three years now, and her balance is about like $4.98. Oh my God. So that's putting her through, like I didn't run the numbers at first, but that's putting her through dental school, undergrad, living there, half a million dollars, Joe. I wonder how many people force people or encourage people to get procedures that they don't really need because they need the money. A lot of people. I bet they do. A lot of people.

I bet it's an incentive. There's always – it's scary. Speaking of incentive, you always want to know what the incentive for something is. Like being in the industry that I'm in now, it's so cutthroat. Someone always wants something from you. Like I always think to myself, where's the sale? What is someone trying to sell me here? Well, in terms of the credit card company, they just want you, your popular YouTuber, put that out there.

Maybe we'll get some people to get suckered into our credit card. Right, like you did. Like you did years ago. So the moral of that story is I took the money, Joe. I took the money. I don't think there's anything wrong with that because it's laid out. It's pretty clear. If you spend money, you're supposed to pay it back.

Right. And if you spend money and there's a certain amount of interest attached to that, you're supposed to pay that back too. And you know what the numbers are. Yeah. You don't just raise high. But that's not like school loans. School loans are crazy. Right.

Because school loans, like your one semester, two semesters, it adds up, stacks up. And then you're out of school two, three years and you owe a half a million dollars. And, you know, what is she making a year? $200? So she's like, how much is she going to take? How long is it going to take her to pay that off? If she has a house, good luck to you. Right.

And if she makes $200, she's also got to pay taxes on that $200. And then where the fuck are you going to get a half a million dollars? Takes forever. Takes forever. It's forever. Absolutely. It makes people greedy and it makes people selfish because you're overwhelmed by this pressure. It's also got to be terrible for your health to have that looming over you.

Yeah. Half a million dollars. You could have a house. You could have a house. I mean, most houses now are damn near half a million dollars anyways, more than that. And now you think to yourself, you have a million dollars in debt assuming you buy a house for half a million and you have another half million student loans oh and the rates are higher for student loans so you're paying serious money for that and if you have a job that you hate and then

you have a dream of being a stand-up comedian yeah that's shit no way it's not gonna happen godspeed man godspeed to you yeah it's not easy to get by in this world. This world requires very smart decision-making early on. Right. Because a guy like yourself that is married and has children, the thing about that is now you have dependents. Right. Now you can't take chances anymore. You can't do some big thing where you're going to start from scratch and move to a studio apartment and

rebuild your business. Nope. It's not going to happen. It's not happening. Your wife will scream at you. Everyone will be mad at you. Why the fuck did you get us into this? I want to be a comedian. What's the big deal? You suck. You're not funny. Call your boss. Beg for your job back. Someone told me I was funny. No.

Hon, I took a course on how to be a comedian. Who wrote that course a comedian you ever watch his act no i never have it's terrible i thought it was pretty good yeah that guy's teaching that course because he didn't make it as a comic unfortunately oh yeah it's a lot it's a lot of the people doing it it wasn't with francis foster the guy was here yesterday but he's in england right in most people in america those courses are taught by failures so wait a second so i guess there's two different schools of thought to everything. You can be a comedian or you could teach people how to be a comedian.

What makes more money? Being a comedian. Okay. 100%. Well, if you're a successful comedian. Yeah, but successful comedians don't teach people how to be comedians. Gotcha. Not here, at least.

Right. I mean, they could. Maybe there's one or two out there that I'm not aware of. Why don't they? Because they're selfish. Also, it's like you have like to want to do that, like you have to want to be a teacher of comedy. Right. Like if you want to be a person who also is dealing with delusional people, because unless you're screening your applicants. Right. There's stand up comedy is a thing where you are either a funny person or you are not a funny person.

If you are not a funny person, the odds of you becoming a funny person are extremely small. I wouldn't say it's impossible because I've met people that I didn't think were very good in the beginning, and now they're really good. I'm like, wow, that guy grinded it out, and he made it, and kudos. That's even more work, though. I mean, if you start off as reasonably funny, you take your course, and then you're funny.

But if you suck, okay. It's not even that easy. Really? Yeah, because it's like subject matter. You have to find topics, and then you have to massage those topics, and you have to do it in real time on stage. Like, I write things, but what it is on paper before it becomes a joke that I can put in a Netflix special, like, ugh.

It's a lot of processing. Oh, my God. There's so much time and effort. There's so much involved in that. So is that how comedians do it? I'm just, when I start my career, you pretty much just, you write notes down on your phone

or whatever, your iPad, and you just keep massaging those over and over again until it's family-friendly? How does that work? Everybody does it different. Okay. Some people just wait for ideas to come to them,

and then they just sort of keep those ideas in their head, and they try them on stage, and then they keep building them. Some really successful comedians do it that way. And some comedians write things out, and they write, and then they like some people write in joke form i write in like essay form right i just write about subjects okay and then i take all the stuff that i wrote and then i extract things from them that i think is funny and then i try it out on stage how do you remember that stuff though my memories i mean how do you

remember you have acts that are over an hour long how does that work i have a good memory yeah so but these companies like like uh a company like alpha on it rather that makes alpha brain yeah these things uh what this is called is called a nootropic and these really do help your memory and um there's not just alpha brain which is you know something from on it that i'm a part of but also there's a some stuff over there called NeuroGum that I use. We don't have any stake in that. It's just a- You chew gum and it makes you, what does it make you?

Yeah, it's got a bunch of different nootropics in the gum. Right. And so when you chew this gum, it actually enhances your memory. It helps this stuff. See, I don't know what studies they've done on the gum, but I do feel a benefit in it. But with Alpha Brain, we did two double blind placebo controlled studies at the Boston Center for Memory. And it really does help verbal memory,

it helps reaction time, your ability to form sentences. So it's provable results. You think you're cheating, Joe, after taking the pills before you go up on stage? 100%. You're definitely cheating. Yeah, I'm cheating. Cheating with weed too.'s cheating with weed too so you shouldn't see that's the thing so now you should sell that now sell it to all potential comedians that want to get into the

game hey take the alpha brain it's not enough it's not enough you don't necessarily have to have a great memory to be a comic you just you have to be able to remember your material and since you've worked on it so much, you probably will remember it. It's not a memory thing. It's a funny thing, and funny is ethereal. It's impossible to grasp. It's just fucking—it's trying to grab air. So you can't be funny.

So you think that people that learn how to be comedians that weren't funny before, they're just good orators. They're just good at talking and landing jokes. They don't to be funny people it depends some people are really funny people and they become great comics and some people are not funny but they know how to write funny right and then they become great comics that way they can become funny through their work it's this the thing is like there's a whole bunch of different kinds of funny right you know there's like whole bunch of different kinds of funny. Right. You know, there's like Mitch Hedberg funny,

then there's Chris Rock funny. Sure. There's Sam Kinison funny, and there's Jerry Seinfeld funny. It's like, so it's, funny is a weird thing. It's just like music. Right.

There's certain, there's certain There's genres, absolutely. Right, right. And then there's Frank Sinatra. I like that kind, yeah, right. Yeah, do you like that kind? Yeah, I do. Do you like metal? I do, I do like metal, yeah. Speed metal? Sinatra. I like that kind. Yeah, right. Yeah. Do you like that kind?

Yeah, I do. Do you like metal? I do like metal, yeah. Speed metal? Speed metal? You know when you go into a pit and you just start slam dancing and stuff? You like moshing? I'm too old for that now.

Right. But I like watching the youth do it. I like watching the youth collide with each other. Watching the youth collide, exactly. Moshing has got to be one of the dumbest fucking things. I can't believe that. My daughter went to, what did she go to? Rolling Loud in Miami not that long ago. And she took a video of like the mosh pit.

And I'm just like, how do you even, are you kidding me? You're literally just launching into each other and getting curb stomped over and over again. Yeah. I used to date a girl when I was 21 who was into moshing. Yeah. And she came over to my apartment once and she's all dizzy. Yeah. Like, what are you doing?

She just got out of a mosh pit. Brain damage. Brain damage. She got head butted. Yeah. Brain damage. Exactly. Like, what are we doing here?

Are you okay? Yeah. Are you good? Yeah. She's like, can I sit down? I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Did you guys break up because she passed away or something? She didn't make it?

It didn't work out. Yeah. For various reasons. Right. It wasn't- The head trauma. There something? She didn't make it? It didn't work out for various reasons. Right. It wasn't. The head trauma. There was no bad thing. Right.

It just didn't work out. Yeah, I gotcha. But yeah, no, it's wild. I've always thought about comedy. Actually, I have a question for you, Joe. Okay. This is going to be a good one. Who's your least favorite comedian?

I personally just, you are not funny. I say it all the time. I can say that because I'm not a comedian. I see someone go up on stage. I'm like, like you are not funny like I say it all the time I could Say that cuz I'm not comedian. I see someone go up on stage I'm like this person is not funny. I want to change the channel. Who do you have that really how much time? Do we have here? Oh? Yeah? You want man? I prefer not to talk about people that I don't like because I don't think there's any Positive to it, and I don't want to shit on them, but are there people yeah

There's a lot of people that suck gotcha okay But that's like there's a lot of music that I don't like. When I'm in the car with my fucking kids and they want to play music, I'm like, no, no, no, no. We're not listening to that. Really? Because I have to listen to it too. What music do your kids like that you don't?

I don't even know who's singing it. Right. It's just nonsense. It's just not good. Yeah. It's just nonsense. Yeah. You're a jabber.

Understood. It's like, you know, my kids are into modern hip-hop and i try to play them like wu-tang clan i'm like listen to the fucking lyrics yeah but wu-tang clan isn't exactly for the children either though wu-tang is for the children yeah if you if that's who you ask if you ask odb then yes god rest his soul but yeah no it's r.i.p r.i.p yeah but yeah that's um yeah wu-tang i've heard some lyrics. I'm like, you know what? I've, man. Yeah. I love Nas.

I love great lyrics. Right. So like, lyrics in hip hop, it's like, I'm from the 90s. I know. Those days, like the cool G-Rap, GJ Polo days, you know? Yep. The Ill Street Blues. Like, I love all that stuff.

See, I love that too, but believe it or not, Joe, I like a lot of the modern stuff too. Like, people hate mumble rap so much, right? And I hate it too, but I think the beats and the tracks that they're laid over are just amazing. It's great tracks. I love modern beats, and sometimes the lyrics don't really match the beat, but I try to ignore the lyrics and just jam out to the music itself Well, I think sometimes with those beats. It's like the lyrics are almost like it's just another sound that right accentuates the music exactly But then there's still like Kendrick Lamar who he's great killer lyrics absolutely You know it's like there's still great lyricists out there absolutely

You know and Nas is still making great stuff. His last CD was great. Do you call it a CD anymore? Which was CD? What is it? Is it an album? Do you call it an album? His last eight track. His last thing?

His joint? What do you call it? For some reason, one of my favorite ones by Nas was the one that Kanye West produced. Kanye West beats

are just top notch to me. But no, I like a lot of the Martin stuff. I almost scared to admit it but the mumble rap I kind of enjoy too because again which guys do you like that mumble rap that you enjoy? I like Future, big Future guy I like Future

I like gosh there's so many of them, Playboi Carti big fan of, like they just he just squeaks and makes these random noises on the mic, I'm just like, it's kind of annoying, but it's kind of cool to say. That's the thing. This, what they're doing right now, it might be cringe to a lot of people,

but it's still art. Dare I say, you know what? You don't like what he's saying, then you do it. Let's see what you sound like. He was able to rise to popularity for a certain reason. There are people that do enjoy that. These people are still making millions of dollars. Like this, he was able to rise to popularity for a certain reason. That's true.

There are people that do enjoy that. Yeah. And these people are still making millions of dollars. So it's like he's doing something right. Well, isn't there a thing where every generation complains about the next generation? The previous ones. I mean, there's people that were complaining about like Led Zeppelin. Exactly.

Like, this isn't music. Right, or the Beatles. What is this shit? Yeah. This isn't music. Where's the harmonica? where's the heart it's always seriously yeah i'm old there's always going to be like a kind of new thing that the old people don't like right yeah like edm electronic people just people are just like i can't you can't can't really no okay we got no time for that. Yeah, it takes a lot of time each track is like 45 minutes

Also, I've only done ecstasy once right? Like the requirement is you have to have ecstasy before you actually People out there doing ecstasy and that's what that was the dead I never understood the dead and my friends will you gotta do acid and like yeah acid. And I'm like. Yeah, geez. If the music requires acid. Right. It can't be that good. Yeah. But some music does require drugs.

Right. And then you get it. What music requires what drugs? Okay. Like what type of music requires marijuana? Is it reggae music? Oh, that's interesting. Like a lot of music is enhanced by marijuana.

Yeah. Reggae. Yeah. Marijuana enhances a lot of music. Yeah. Could you be loved? Oh, man. Listen to that when you're high. It's like, oh.

Buffalo Soldier. Oh, yeah. A lot of good ones out there. There's some great music that is enhanced by marijuana, but there's these. Isn't all music, I mean, marijuana enhances your senses anyway. Yes. So technically, wouldn't all music, couldn't you enjoy all music more because of that? Maybe Slayer wouldn't be good if you were high.

Yeah, it's like, whoa, what the hell? Yeah. Where's that coming from? Yeah, Pantera, some fucking wild, crazy fucking. Right. I don't know. Maybe like hyper-aggressive music wouldn't be good. Because marijuana does calm you in a lot of cases.

So I guess calmer music is better. I think you hear things. I remember the first time I listened to Seal when I was high. Yeah. Kiss by a Rose. Kiss by a Rose. Yeah. You hear all this sound.

Whoa. There's a cymbal that's over here. Where'd that bird go? There's a bird there? What is this? Who did this? Imagine being high there. They're all high, but they're all high on exercise.

I don't think they're high on marijuana. I think they're high on something else. They're all high on mo they're all high on... I don't think they're high on marijuana. I think they're high on something else. They're all high on molly or something. Let me hear this. That's weird. Yeah, the Lord doesn't want us to hear this. Yeah, that's correct. It's not working.

Copyright, copyright. But look at the... The guys just press a button. Do you think sometimes they just pretend they're fucking with those things? Absolutely. A little bit. Those aren't doing anything. Yeah, he's doing... But just pretend they're fucking with absolutely a little bit those aren't doing anything Yeah, he's doing but he like it's a lot of setup seriously He also set up all the lights like sir that's not even plugged in I could tell it's not plugged in

How come we can't hear it? I don't know honestly. I'm trying to figure out right now So you have this glowing I can't understand this I know there's some that can but I'm looking at this I'm like I don't I don't know what's going on there So is that a mosh pit I don't think it's a mosh because they have they're just jumping around there's like spit I saw a Morningstar they're like people are getting hurt in that pit yeah yeah what's a Morningstar Morningstar the giant medieval weapon that has that it's like a it's a ball that has this on it yeah that you club

people with that I saw I thought I saw that I had one sure it wasn't a bong yeah see look there's a guy in there that has one for sure where all right I thought I saw that I had one. What? It looked just like it, yeah. Sure it wasn't a bong? Yeah. See, look, there's a guy in there that has one, for sure. Where? Oh, no, that's the alien guy. Never mind. What alien? See the alien jumping over there to the left?

It's a weird alien thing. Oh, I see. Everyone's all sweating profusely. They're doing drugs, for sure. Yeah. Not judging, but they definitely are. They're doing dance drugs. Yeah.

Dance drugs are real. Like, ecstasy is a dance drug. Look at her. Oh, yeah. She's been doing that for hours. Dance drugs are real. Like, ecstasy is a dance drug. Look at her. Oh, yeah. She's been doing it for hours. The same move over and over again. Yeah. But, you know.

What is that? That's amazing. I would pass out. There's a lot going on there, Joe. It looks like they're having fun. There we go. I eat ass. See that guy?

He eats ass. Why do you have to? She's on something. Again, not judging. That's a Kiss song. Yeah, so that's how I found my way into it. I found people remixing songs I already like and then sort of find some stuff that's...

See, I love that song. Are they just stealing from other artists? Well, are they? I mean, does it hurt the artist i wouldn't if it hurts the artist they're stealing they get paid though in some cases so it's not stealing right yeah good point well yeah the artist gets royalties but do the artist gets royalties if you just play it at a concert like that they're supposed well well it's an actual song for yeah oh so like you have to license the music there's like yeah that's what assAP and BMI are. There's like, you know.

I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. It's so good. Yeah. She loves everything. She loves her dog.

She loves her house. She loves her cat. She's high as fuck. She really is. You might get a clearance from someone, though, and they could say you can't perform it live. That would be like if you want to record it and release it, that's what you agreed to. Right. I want to have that effect on people.

Do you? Imagine that, people just cheering and, you know what I mean? It's kind of cool. Probably wild. It's probably a wild feeling to be just on that stage and everybody's rocking out. Right. Yeah. That's kind of crazy.

Have you ever thought about performing in some sort of a way? You obviously enjoy doing the YouTube videos. Yeah. You enjoy that they're very popular. Have you thought about performing in some way you know what i haven't i haven't thought about performing but i thought about making i want to make screenplays i really want to do that i don't think i want to perform i mean i've always want to be an actor i've always wanted to be an actor really and then youtube is

my way of acting and i have a lot of really cool, I don't want to say cool, really weird videos that I've done where I integrate skits and comedy into the video itself. Like my favorite comedies, I mean, I love The Simpsons, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Always Sunny in Philadelphia, and, you know, Arrested Development. Those are my favorite shows. And I always try to integrate some kind of really weird, cringy humor in some of my videos. Like, I did a video where we didn't have a video. We have to make a video every week. And one week, I did not have a video to make. All my cars were broken.

Couldn't get parts for them. I had to make a video that was entertaining. Now, when you say you have to, are you contractually obligated? I don't have to, but that's my thing. If I miss a week, I feel bad. Doing YouTube videos every week, it claims relevancy, it keeps you relevant. Because information travels so fast

and there's so much news at once, you can be easily forgotten if you don't put it away. If you take a break from YouTube for six months, good luck to you, because there's a hundred other YouTubers that popped up since then. But during that week, we didn't have a video to make. And I was approaching the million subscriber mark. And I said to Steven, like, hey, let's make a video

based on the million subscriber. Everyone does, hey, I hit a million. They throw a pizza party all this all this crazy shit I said you know what let's make a 1 million subscriber video, but what do we do? I said what's the what's the cringiest thing we can do and I said let's do this for the 1 millionth video 1 million subscriber video Taking my millionth subscribers wife out to dinner taking my millionth subscriber's wife out to dinner.

Dude, that video, we filmed literally everything. We filmed me getting ready for the date. I got dressed up in my IT guy's outfit. I had a button-up shirt. How did you make the decision to take the wife, not the person? Because it's funnier. Oh, okay. It's weirder. It's weird.

It's weird. Yeah, because taking my millionth. hey, what's up, bro? How you doing, man? No, no, no. You take his wife to dinner. And I'll tell you, it had absolutely nothing to do with cars whatsoever. And that was the scary part is that like this is a car channel. Right.

Car channels are probably one of the most expensive channels to run. You have a video game channel. You could make millions just playing video games. If you have a makeup channel, you can make millions just putting on lipstick, right? For car channel, you have to buy the cars, fix them, build them, upgrade them, et cetera, right? Not for this. I mean, I was like broke as hell. I was like, I don't have any money left.

Let's figure something out. We did that video. Surprisingly, out of nowhere, it was one of the most successful videos I've ever done. Really? Because it was just. So weird. It was. And the wife, she wasn't an actress.

Everything that I had to do was improv. I had to. I got her gifts. One of the gifts was a vibrator. And it was. Seriously. And she had no idea what we were going to give her. But everything was improv.

And it was probably one of the most fun times I've ever had. Really? It was amazing. I had Stephen, my right-hand man, he was filming everything. And he was filming our live interaction. She knew nothing that was going to happen. And she just played along. It was perfect.

And so I enjoy doing stuff like that i enjoy awkward humor and awkward uh uh situations so have you thought about doing more kind of videos like that like different yeah we did we did another one that was wildly popular too we uh we found a a car from a girl on tinder supposed to be a tinder date and she had a car like in her profile that I wanted to buy. You'll have to watch it. It was actually a pretty... I thought it was pretty entertaining. But it was... I'm starting to stare a little bit more away from the car stuff, and then

just a little bit more sketch random comedy and stuff. So we have a lot of different random things that we do. But what I really wanted to do was... So there's the car side of me, and then there's the comedic timing side of me. I actually want to do a screenplay. I guess to get more in touch with my, I guess you could say, I don't want to say, sensitive side. So there's a couple issues that, you know how a lot of issues that you have built up you could do through comedy. If you have an issue, you could do it through artistic art.

do through comedy. If you have an issue, you could do it through artistic art. So there was, I wanted to do a screenplay on something called The Faceless Man. I'm going to give this whole thing away. It doesn't really matter. I'll probably never make it. But The Faceless Man is someone that you see every day, but you don't recognize him as a person at all. You just see him every day. He's like a blank face. Okay, I see that guy. That's great. There was this guy that worked at Starbucks, right? I used to go to the Starbucks every day, and I look at him, and I could see, you could immediately see when someone doesn't belong in a certain scenario, right? You could tell when someone's an outcast. So he was there. He was like a, probably like a 35, 40-something-year-old man, a little overweight, kind of awkward. And at Starbucks, there's always these young, hip, sprightly people.

Hey, can I get your order? Hey, what's your name? They write your name wrong, make all these jokes. He kind of stuck out as the person that no one really talked to. So I go there every day. He's awkward. People are just like, you know, whatever. I don't really care about him that much. And you could tell he was not like the others, right? where people are just like, you know, whatever, I don't really care about him that much. And you could tell he was not like the others, right? I would see this guy walk home every day,

just like a regular guy, but he wasn't cool, he wasn't with it. He worked at Starbucks, lived in an apartment by himself. And this is like part of what I wanted to portray to people. There are people that we don't really recognize as people that we just pass every day that are like suffering inherently. You know what I mean? he's not like anyone else he he's socially awkward doesn't have a girlfriend and he makes minimum wage so as a guy in this society as a man in this society it's hard to if you can't provide right who what are you really doing you're socially awkward you

can't get a girl make minimum wage in today culture, it's all about who has the most money. What can you do for me type of thing. So if you have like a, for example, I think like five of my friends, six of my friends, they all found their wives when they were either living at home with their parents or in a small apartment, right? It's like, hey, come live with me. We'll get married, start a family, live in a nice big house. You never see it go the other way. Who is this awkward guy that makes minimum wage? Who's going to take him and say, hey, listen, let me make something out of you? What's his fate?

So as time went on, it was so awkward because I could tell he was uncomfortable. I wanted to approach him and say, hey, what's up, man? What do you say to that? How do two guys become friends? What do I say? Hey, what's up, man? Like, what do you say to that? Like, how do two guys become friends? What do I say? Hey, how's it going? Like, how are things? Like, can I talk to you and not come across as weird?

That's hard to do that, right? So you just kind of got this in your head just from going to this Starbucks and seeing this guy on a regular basis. Exactly. So I know there's people that are out there that are just quietly suffering. They live alone. Yeah. They don't have any friends, and they're just weird. So one day I was like, you know what,

I'm gonna talk to this guy. I'm gonna talk to him. Ended up getting a phone call. Didn't end up talking to the guy. I saw him walking home. I live in a small town so I know where he lived. And I didn't see him for like weeks. Went to Starbucks, hey, is this guy still here?

They're like, no, he left, so and so and so. Turns out, he did some more digging. They found him dead in his apartment. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. When did they find him dead? I looked at the news. I think it was after I stopped seeing him.

I think it coincided within three days of that. So did he die of suicide, of an overdose? I have no idea. No idea. You didn't look into it? I don't think they would release that because he was like a nobody. an overdose? I have no idea. No idea. No, because they wouldn't. I don't think they would release that because he was like a nobody. They just said they found a body. They wouldn't release the autopsy.

Jesus. Maybe he ended it. Maybe. So that's the problem. So I think I wanted to make something based on there are people out there like that. Men have, what, four times higher than women's suicide rates. I want to talk about hey listen This is the faceless man the guy that you never would think of talking to everyone's suffering in some way

So I want to something like that. I think the what would be the way you would do it though Like what would be what would you try to get out of it? That's the hard part This is the part. I've been struggling with for the longest time. I don't know how to end it mmm because He's still him as much as I want to say I mean I'll have other character I'll have him in my head he has a mom and his mom you know she smokes ten packs a day oh so this is like your screenplay yeah so so the actual story what happened is that it that is actually true but me adding the characters obviously that that's part of

my screenplay so I want to make a story about him because no one he's a faceless guy right like he Like he lives alone. His parents probably passed. If he dies, no one would notice. The biggest thing is this. What story do I tell? Do I tell the story of him passing away and no one noticing? And that's super dark because he did die and no one at Starbucks knew. They just thought he just like, he just didn't show up for work one day. And that's super dark. Because he did die, and no one at Starbucks knew.

They just thought he just like, he just didn't show up for work one day. And that's the scary part. Do I tell a story that's based on, if you pass away and you're the faceless man, no one would notice. Which is sad, but it's also the reality that a lot of people face.

A lot of people. And that's unfortunate. I don't know how to, how do I make that into a happy story? Do I make it into a happy story? Or do I just tell the truth? Like this man that was suffering by himself had no one and he passed away

and no one knew the difference. How do I make that happy? Like, do I even tell the story? This is the kind of, these are the kind of things that I think about. I think about, you know, you know you have like this new thing now where like influencers are selling like their their underwear yeah like or they sell actually one woman sold her bath water seriously i'm sure you've seen it yeah there's one where a girl was selling farts she was farting in a jar

so much that she actually got her to the to the hospital. But do you believe that? I do. I don't. Because people buy it. The fart thing, no. But the bath water thing, I absolutely believe. Oh, the bath water thing I think was probably real. But like if you're a woman that's willing to sell your farts, you're probably not even really farting in those

jars. You're probably not. No, absolutely not. Can you get a fart in a jar? You can't, no. You won't smell shit. She's probably shitting in the jars Can you get a fart in a jar? You can't, no. You won't smell shit. You're probably shitting in the jars. But if you fart in a jar, is it possible to seal that bitch up so quickly? No. Most of it would escape. Most of it?

Would it be a scent? A possible whiff of a fart? You figure your balloon knot's only so big. I bet if Joey Diaz farted in a jar you could smell it for years. Like a time capsule. It depends on what kind of fart. If it's Joey Diaz farted in a jar you could smell it for years. Like a time capsule. It depends on what kind of fart. If it's a grown man fart. If it's wet and some liquid falls in there

then yeah, you're fine. Just seal it up. You'll have it for 10 years. But just the air. You do have some air in that jar. If you just seal it real quick. If you fart, especially like doesn't it rise? It's going to escape, Joe. It's going to escape.

It always escapes. It's just air. Gas. But wouldn't some of it stay in the jar? It could be obviously fake, but there's a funny TikTok video where a kid farts in a jar and buries it. Yeah. And then digs it up a few days later, a week later. How does it smell?

Well, everyone he's showing it to gives a bad reaction, but they could just be asking for the smell. Yeah. What the heck? I want to know how that ends. You'd actually have to smell it. I might actually do that. Yeah. I don't know.

But yeah, so they sell the farts in the jar. Right. And it's like- Influencers. Influencers. And that's what they do. So he would be the faceless man. It sounds weird.

And I always had a thing where whenever- Who's the target audience for buying farts in a jar? Who's the target audience – oh, the fart jar. There's a fart jar to capture your baby's farts for safe sentimental keeping. For how long? What? How long does that last? How do you know when your baby's going to fart?

I don't know. Just keep that thing annoying your baby? It's like a – I think this is a real product. What, do you stick it in your – how do you do it? That's a – no way. This is a joke. Okay, maybe it is. is it only baby farts like how do they oh oh you put it in there up the butt? Oh? Crazy yeah, that is what are you doing to your kid? Yeah? I don't know fucking weird

Well, I guess you could take the temperature at the same time Yeah, that's it. That's what I want to do. Like he'd be the target audience for that. So but why is this loner, this like type of outcast person so interesting to you? Because it made me, I felt awful. For him. I felt awful that I didn't. There's some people that are okay being alone. Right.

That's fine. You live home until you're 100 years, that's fine. Some people aren't. And I guess I want to tell the story about the people that aren't really talked about. No one really talks about lonely guys that live by themselves that society considers outcasts because they don't make enough money to support and take care of a woman or a family. But is that why they're an outcast? Is that the only reason why? I mean, many of them, I'm sure, have like social issues and anxiety. But some people, I mean, if you're, you know, body image stuff, if you're kind of awkward, overweight, guy doesn't make much money, it's hard to find that ideal partner in a lot of cases because in in today's day and age of social media everyone paints these images of who they want to be with that's true you know if

if like my I had a question feel I'll ask you after this but my my daughter for example like she's she's super young but she wears a jacket like it's a it's a hundred degrees out in in back back and. She wears a jacket where she goes. And even though it's 100 degrees outside, she still has that jacket on because, you know, she's a young girl. Her body is changing, right? So the reason why she wears the jacket is because she's so self-conscious about how she looks. Right. And the reason that the main issue for that is because of social media and body image expectations, right?

That's real. So it's real and it's scary. So my thing is, A, I think social media is the devil even though I make money off of it. The thing is explaining someone's life story like that, like the faceless man, is something I want to portray because I know a lot of people suffer from that. A lot of people have issues and they're looked at as society's outcast. I'm sure you pass by people every day. They're just like, oh, yeah, whatever. It's mostly the fact that I think everyone is suffering in some way.

A lot of people are suffering. And you never really know. I mean, people like, he could be the happiest guy in the world, and you could be gone. Like Robin Williams, for example. Super happy guy guy but it's just like you know yeah but he had like a serious issue he had the thing called Lewy body syndrome right he also had a heart attack and because of the heart

attack he was under he had open-heart surgery and when you have long-term anesthesia like right multiple hours of anesthesia a lot of times your hormonal system is completely disrupted and a lot of people become very depressed after that. And those are stories that, those are things that the average person wouldn't know. Right. They see him as the happiest guy in the world. They would pass him, hey, this is a happy guy. He's a movie star.

This is awesome. He's doing great. Yeah. But everyone's suffering from something that isn't always in the public eye, is what I'm saying. You know what I mean? The thing about a guy who's working at Starbucks, it's like when

you're working and you're making a very small amount of money barely enough to take care of yourself you have to fit like if you if there's a thing you want to do other than that right how do you even do it how do you get out of that hole how do you get out of that hole because you you're check to check every week right like my even even daughter, for example, when she gets out, she's going to make great money, I'm sure. But, dude, you know how much houses cost. Houses are ridiculous and getting worse, right? You know how much houses cost. How do you break that cycle?

If you make minimum wage, how do you break the cycle and get into something and then all of this? Because a lot of women are lucky in the sense that hey if you're if you're attractive and you're nice and sweet yeah some guy will pick you up you know but you want to rely on that no you don't you could get lucky and meet a great guy right or you can meet some abusive piece of shit right exactly but and or someone who steals from you but there is an option they do have hey someone's gonna say hey look you're kind of cute you could either go one way or the other that guy has no choice right no one. No one's coming for him. He's not going to find a gigolo.

Probably not. He's not going to find, well, a gigolo is a hooker. Yeah. A male sugar daddy. Right. Who's he going to find? Maybe. That's his only option, or a female sugar daddy.

Right. Sugar mama. What is he going to do? Yeah, and what does he want to do? What did he wish he would do? And what led him to be there in the first place? But that's a depressing-ass story. So how do I end it?

I need your help, Joe. How do I end that story on a good note that tells a message? You end it right here and right now and don't do it. There you go. It's an uncomfortable reality of people. But that's the story I want to tell. You know how this happens all the time where your mom will say, oh, you're so attractive, honey. You're going to find someone.

And they always give you that false sense of security like, oh, my mom said it. I'm sure it's going to be fine. Someone might gas you up and have a yes man that says, hey, you're going to be okay. Guess what, Joe? Some people aren't okay. No, a lot of people aren't okay. Some people are lied to incessantly to make themselves feel better or the person saying it feel better. But a lot of people aren't going to be okay.

Also, what you're talking about with social media, you're dealing with the expectations of a lot of people that what they're putting out is not even accurate. Right. So you're judging yourself by an inaccurate depiction of other people's supposedly happy lives where they might be a fucking mess. Exactly. I mean, so many people, what they want to put out on social media, they want to pretend that everything's hunky-dory and their lives amazing and

absolutely you know you've seen those memes of girls that are pretending to be on these vacations and right and they see the guys are paying for the video yeah it's like some old guy yeah it's tough man I mean I wish I know this this the conversation took a turn for sure, but I think about that stuff. Like, there's a happy side. I mean, there's the dark side of things. There are people out there that don't have it so good. Well, you're a nice guy, Rich.

You're a sensitive guy, and you're thinking about these people that are fucked. I'm a sensitive man. I'm a sensitive man. But those people are fucked, and that is a hard situation to get out of. Yeah. It's a hard reality. You'd have to know the person, know what's wrong.

How did it go wrong? What do you want to do? What do you wish you were doing? How'd you get to this spot in the first place? Right. What are your options? That's the thing. I think we're lucky

in the sense that right now we could say, what do you want to do? You could do whatever you want to do, Joe. Yeah. You can do whatever you want. So some people,

it's like comedy. Mm-hmm. Even if you work your ass off, after 10 years you can still be in the same spot. So you working hard has no correlation between working hard and success, which is unfortunate. You have to think hard and then you have to come up with actual real solutions to very complex problems. That's life. Life is not just about working hard. You can work hard as a laborer and be poor and die. That's it.

All day and then one day your body stops working. And that's also real. Or you could start a masonry company and start doing well and hire employees and do a good job and meticulous work and be known for it and develop a reputation and have a good job and meticulous work and be known for it and develop a reputation and have a nice business and have fucking barbecues and cookouts and your family comes over and then you live your life.

Absolutely. And you have a great life. Right. But what is the difference between the person who just stays a laborer and the person who figures out how to start their own company? And there's a lot of variables in there. Right. Decisions and-

Some people don't have it in them too I think something the unfortunate part is that not everyone could be a CEO right some people are just workers that sucks yeah it's we don't want to say that because you want to say everyone can make it that's what that's the problem we're in right now though yeah it's like oh yeah you're gonna be fine you're the most handsomest boy in the world you're gonna find a great girl guess what mom died didn't find a girl yet he's 50 years old yeah thanks mom yeah everyone is this there's participation trophies and there's multiple ways of people feeling better about themselves but sometimes there's

hard truths that hey listen these things might not happen for you right what do you concentrate on though I mean and these people with these hard truths I mean a hard truth person in America is probably way better off than the What do you concentrate on, though? I mean, and these people with these hard truths. I mean, a hard truth person in America is probably way better off than the average person that's living in a third world country. Absolutely. Which is even more fucked. I know. Well, when you find out that, when you look at the number, when you say the 1%, if you make $34,000 a year, you're in the 1% of the world. Really?

Yeah. Well, how about the U.S.? What in the 1% of the world. Really? Yeah. Well, how about the U.S.? What's the 1% in the United States? That's a good question. I don't know what it is. Let's take a guess. You want to say it's like, you think it's like 200 grand? What do you think it is?

I think it's like- What's the number? 250. 250? Maybe, yeah. That's incredible, Joe. Yeah. Well, let's say 250.

Yeah. Let's say 250. What do you think it is, Jamie? You got to guess. I have a feeling Jamie's looking it up right now. I'm looking it up. I haven't hit the enter button yet. That's probably close to that.

Okay. Maybe even higher. Okay. Let's see what a 1%er is in the United States of America. 1%, top 1% of income maker. Yeah. I was going to say 400 just to be different, but it's higher than that even. Really? Half a million? It says it's almost 600K. wait wait how many is it that single how many family how many people in the home american family i don't know so probably two and two

okay so that'd be a husband and a wife and okay according to a recent study uh uh finance website smart asset an american family needed to earn 597 815 dollars in 2021 to be in the top one percent okay but how big is that family you could have a family of like 30 people living in the same like how does that i think it's like two people i think it's like a husband and wife or a husband and a husband or a wife and a wife right income inequality top one percent of the uf what they make all right so that says that says 350000. Oh, $538,000. Okay, so it's pretty close. So household income is $201,000.

Individual is $129,000. This one says, yeah, single earners, $357,000. Wow. Okay. So $357,000 for a single earner. That is a fucking great job. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money to be in the top.

But, you know, 1% of the world. There's a lot of money. That's a lot of money to be in the top. But, you know, 1% of the world. There's a lot of people in the United States, too. That's the country. Yeah, it's just the country. Yeah. Right. But in the world, though, it's 34,000. Really?

Yeah, 34,000. That's how bad the rest of the world has it. Well, you can average. Weren't there some people that used to want to live on the beach in, like, Taiwan or something for, like, $29 a month? Yeah. Some people don't want to be a 1%. They just want to live on the beach in like Taiwan or something for like $29 a month yeah some people don't want to be a 1% or they just want to relax they just want peace in nature you know there's a lot of people that that's what they want or you want to be like a subsistence person you just want a plot of land live off the eat berries yeah I can grow your own vegetables and have regenerative farming and composting and right I don't know how they make money but yeah you know maybe buy a Tesla or something what

save the world their net worth is over 11 million though that's quite a bit higher that's a lot so is there any actual truth to this at all 11 million net worth so that means like your house and the stuff you have and stocks and shoes and so you But that makes sense. So if you're making $600,000 a year that like, you know, you've been working for 30 years. Right. You might have some assets. 10%, 2%.

That's a lot of fucking money. So I'm probably like, let me see. So 10% is 1.2 million. I'm probably a good like maybe 30% or so. I'm up there. I'll get there. Yeah. Joe,

the haves and the have-nots. Joe, what is the one thing, the one tangible thing that you could remove from this world that would instantly make it a better place?

What do you think that thing is? Hmm. You could remove one thing. It can't be a feeling or a little happiness or world hunger. Tangible.

That's a good question. Where would you go? Would you go with environmental? Would you go with murder? Would you go with war? What would you go with? I'm probably going to get crucified for this, Joe,

but I think guns. Guns. So I have guns, right? Right. Here's the thing. I wonder when you think about wars and shootings and things like that, would not having any of those weapons of destruction actually help things? Do you know what the Mongols did without guns?

Oh, all kinds of disgusting things. They killed 10% of the world's population during the Genghis Khan's life. But in modern times, though, what would people that aren't soldiers... Yeah. People that aren't soldiers in modern times, would there be no more mass shootings? Like how would you? There would also be no more police protection. But it would force people to know how to fight.

You'd be in fisticuffs left and right. You'd constantly be in shape. People would go to the, oh, poor thing, poor Americans getting in shape. Could you imagine, Joe? That'd be terrible. And even if you learn how to the, oh, poor thing. Poor Americans getting in shape. Could you imagine, Joe? That'd be terrible. And even if you learn how to fight, there's like physical limitations. The gun is a great equalizer where a 90-pound woman can shoot a 300-pound man and kill him because he's trying to get her. True.

But if we, I think at a larger scale. Aren't there some countries that don't allow guns? I think the UK, England, for example. Yeah, it's very hard to get a gun in England. Yeah, I mean, I think you can get some sort of a hunting rifle. Right.

So what's most of their violence based on? Knives. Knives. A lot of stabbings. Getting stabs up. Are there mass stabbings, though? Can you stab like 38 people?

I guess you could if you were on a subway and you just went ham. Right. Better than a gun, though. Okay, I'm not saying it's bad, but I'm wondering what thing could you remove

to make it better? Would that make it a better place? It would make it a better place for the people that didn't get shot. Right. But isn't it really like what is causing a person to do that? And would that eliminate that? Because when you think about a mass shooter, like a mass shooter is when you were talking about your Starbucks employee, I was like, maybe that guy's a mass shooter.

He's probably going to shoot the place up at some point, right? A lot of those folks are the ones that are disenfranchised from society and severely depressed and angry and lash out at the world. But is it better for them to lash out with their fist, though? I don't think they would. No, they wouldn't, because they're probably not in shape either. Yeah, they would get killed by other people. Right.

I mean, I don't know if that – I wondered that for days now. Like what is – would that make the world a better place? People would obviously find something else to mess each other up with. You probably would have less food too though because you wouldn't be able to hunt food. You'd have to use a born arrow, Joe. You could use that. Use an arrow to cut elk.

Launch like three arrows on them. Four arrows. Hunt food. You'd have to use a born arrow, Joe. You could use that. Use an arrow to cut elk. You know? Launch like three arrows in them. Four arrows. You got to get close. Yeah. It's not that easy. No, it's not. I think the gun thing, like it would be, if you could eliminate gun violence from the world.

That's easy. Yeah, of course. That would be an amazing thing. Yeah, of course. That would be an amazing thing. But you know that more people die from 2020 from sticking things up their ass than died from AR-15s? Really? I believe that. Yeah.

I believe that. It's a fact. You know what? Not a funny story, but a story. I have a friend that's a nurse, and a man came with a chicken. And the chicken was on his lap and the chicken was going ape shit in the waiting area.

Because the chicken was stuck on his dick. Exactly. I knew that was coming. Because I know men. Is it a warm hole? I'll take it. Here's the fun part. What do you think happens to the chicken? How did he get all the way to the emergency room?

Like, how much did he want to keep this chicken alive? Well, he probably couldn't get it off. Once that chicken clenches up on that thing. Oh, my God. Yeah. When if you kill the chicken, the chicken would relax? So, here's the thing. So, they went there, and she's like, well, we're not a vet.

We don't have the tools to sedate this chicken. So, I think they gave it a very small dose of a sedative that could go to a vet. We don't have the tools to sedate this chicken. So I think they gave it a very small dose of a sedative that would go to a human. Gave it to the chicken. The chicken died. Wow. Didn't make it. That's the sad part. But I had so many questions. What happens to the chicken out there? It did not surpass

AR rifle check in 2020? That's what this says. Okay, what does it say here? 2020, there were 287 cases of people dying by putting foreign objects in their anus it's a lot so that's not true this is the post look like on facebook at the time of the writing and what is the actual number of people that died from things in their butt well that wasn't that it was people died from a rifle i don't know yeah but that's 2015 to 2019 that's four years if it was more people died from a rifle. I don't know. Yeah, but that's 2015 to 2019. That's four years.

If it was 250 people a year, that would be the same amount or close to it. That's if they couldn't get the data for the years they tried. Hold on a second. So include AR and other assaults. Lead story efforts to reach FBI for 2020 data were unsuccessful. So they don't have the information. They don't have the information. But if you're looking at 2015, 16, 17, 18, and 19,

that's five years of total number of people killed. It was 1,500, yeah. It was 1,500. And you had one year, 300 for anal deaths. That would be close, but what are the actual numbers of people that have died by putting things in their ass? That's what it was. 320. It was actually 287 cases of people that have died by putting things in their ass. That's what it was. 320. It was actually 287 cases of people dying.

The crazy part is, who writes this down? Is that like a cause of death, anus? You know what I mean? How does? That's the amazing part. So this is definitely wrong in terms of how many people have been killed by ARs in the last five years.

What I had seen, it was a one-year thing. So in 2020, there was 287 cases of people dying by putting foreign objects in their butt. But when you look at people that have been killed by rifles, it was how many people? Why don't you just ask, how many people were killed in 2020 by rifles? But here's the other thing.

When it says, okay, according to FBI, murder by rifle, the total number for those five years was 1,573 people. Rifle is a statistical category that includes AR and other assault-style rifles. It also says they reached out to a board-certified colorectal surgeon, and he doesn't know of a database that uses a number of anal glass. Yeah, that's what I was asking. How does he even know that's amazing yeah that could be just a fake meme that's right just wrote down right um I know people have definitely died from stuff up their butt and people have definitely died from ARs mm-hmm but I

think that you know people have died from a flipper but really I know them no I know oh okay he was an. It's real. That's pretty cool. I had a buddy of mine. A buddy of mine. I had a buddy of mine that was a surgeon. He was an ophthalmologist, actually, and he did his residency in Miami during the cocaine days of the 80s. Yeah. And he said they were always getting people with the, like, G.I. Joe dolls, light bulbs, all kinds of stuff stuffed up their butt. Why?

Why the light bulb? Like, pleasure? I think people do things to hurt themselves. Like, there's a there's a There's a video that I saw once unfortunately called one guy one jar. Oh, I saw it. Oh Joe don't say that Yeah, the jar the jar broke that yeah, I couldn't do that. Never watch it again I do that what what kind of like pain was he in like yeah, what kind of psychological? Maybe it was the guy from Starbucks You know I'm saying? Yeah, poor guy. Why?

Why would someone do that? Why would someone put a G.I. Joe doll up their ass? Why would someone fuck a chicken? What's wrong with people? The chicken I kind of understand. I would come up with a screenplay for the backstory of someone on your mom's house videos. Just pick a video. Come up with a story on that guy.

Well, have you ever seen the documentary Zoo? No. Well, it's about people that have an attraction to animals. Oh, God. There was a guy who died in Seattle, in Washington State, in like the early 2000s. And he died getting fucked to death by a horse. Jesus. I mean, you only last.

Horses are hung. Yeah, but this guy had been fucked a bunch of times by horses. Multiple horses or just like a gang thing? A bunch of different horses. How do you train the horse? What happened was there was like this online group. I think it's called Zophilia. That's the psychological condition.

Yeah. What an image. What an image, huh? This is the documentary about the guy. Oh, the guy's in his eyes. Oh, God. just the- What an image. What an image, huh? This is the documentary about the guy, but the video is called- Oh, the guy's in his eyes. Oh, God. I don't know about this. Is that a reflection of a man in his eyes?

Yes. A naked man? The video is called Mr. Hands, and you can find Mr. Hands, the video, online, and you can actually see this man get fucked by a horse. And so what happened was they brought this guy into the emergency room and the doctor's like, what the fuck happened? He had no organs left pretty much. Yeah.

At that point. He got blown out and this investigation was opened. Oh no. What an image. Thank you, Jamie. Yikes. Thank you very much. Whoa.

Yeah. So Mr. Hands. Yeah. So Mr. Hands, that's just to show how a horse's anatomy compares. What a strange image placement for that. Yeah. So the guy died, and then they made this documentary called Zoo. The documentary is very interesting because it's about a real group of people that one of them they met they met online and one guy had a farm yeah and so they invited all these other people who were also into getting fucked by animals onto this farm

and then they filmed it and they had hundreds of hours of people having sex with animals yeah cuz in Washington State I think up until the time where this happened that was okay right it was legal yeah yeah there was like only a couple states where you're allowed to fuck animals. Go Washington. Thank you. Jeez, for closing that loophole. America, freedom.

That's the guy? Yeah. Kenneth, how do you say that name? Anal? Pinyon? Pinyon. Pinyon. A Boeing aircraft engineer.

Oh my goodness. You had a life for you. He died from injuries sustained, received from during anal sex with a stallion. I like how it says stallion in all caps. Why is it all caps? Yeah, right. During the sex act, filmed by Pal. I like that it says Pal, James Tate.

Pignon suffered a perforated colon from being shafted by the horse and later died from it. Prosecutors determined that the horse had not been injured by being allowed to engage in sex in this manner. According to the medical examiner's office, Pinyan died of acute peritonitis due to perforation of the colon. Yeah, it was ruled accidental. How is that accidental? Well, he said he refused to go to the hospital for several hours. And, yeah, he's like, I'm fine.

Yeah, I'm good. That's the thing. So Kenneth, right? Yes. And his friend James filmed it. How did they, like two guys just having a conversation in a room, how did James know that Kenneth was into that? I think they met online. I think they met in a forum. A horse chat room? A horse in a room. How did James know that Kenneth was into that? How does that come up?

I think they met online. I think they met in a forum. Like a horse chat room? A horse fucking chat room. God, there's horse fucking chat rooms? There's probably everything. That's crazy. Jamie, can you find one?

I'm sure. I bet if you go to Reddit, they can steer you in that direction. Reddit has everything, right. They could probably let you know that these things are real. I think it's a psychological disorder where people are- Want to hurt themselves, yeah. They also want to get fucked by animals, like specifically animals. Just find like a hung black guy or something.

I don't think it's the person wanting to fuck an animal. I think it's the animal. They want this animal to fuck them. Right. Well, there's a lot of women that have been- Wasn't that Marie Antoinette? Who was the woman that, like, died from getting fucked by a horse? It was, like, a famous, or maybe it was just a-

I didn't know. Is this, like, more than one of them? There's, like, multiple people, I'm assuming. There was, like, a famous historical, like, royalty person. Was it accidental? Or was it, like, whoa? It might not have even been real. There's a story of Catherine the Great.

Catherine the Great, that's right. Supposedly, I don't know. This says she did not. Yeah, wow. That sucks.

Somebody has been. Yeah, absolutely. That guy definitely has been. Right, Kenneth. Probably a lot of people. Poor Kenneth.

All throughout history have been fucked to death by horses. Right. It's probably not an uncommon thing. Maybe a zebra or a giraffe or something. That would really. Boy, you got to get a zebra relaxed. Maybe a zebra or a giraffe or something. That would really- Boy, you got to get a zebra relaxed. Yeah, they're usually pretty cool.

They buck like crazy. They don't want to stay in a stable. They're wild. Right. You can't hold them down. But there's- I don't know why we brought this up. I guess it's like the loner, sad type person with- The human mind is a weird, pliable, flexible, and really unpredictable thing.

People like all kinds of shit. You take a baby with their genetics and then a lot of life experiences, a lot of trauma, a lot of this, and then what does it wind up at 54? Well, this guy winds up getting fucked by a horse. Kenneth. I'll always remember that name for some reason. Some people, they're doing crack in the back parking lot of a McDonald's. Right. It's like, what causes that guy to be the Starbucks employee that's alone and dies in his apartment and nobody misses him?

Right. What causes that guy to get fucked to death by a horse? Who knows, man? There's got to be some imbalance. I feel like the guy at Starbucks is a normal guy and I feel like the guy that wants to get railed by a horse

and killed by it eventually is, I don't think he's all there. Is he a normal guy? Meanwhile, he's an engineer. He's a Boeing engineer. So meanwhile, he's like designing planes

and shit. That's got to be a black mark for Boeing though. According to the story, they found tape, hundreds of hours of tape seized.

Yeah. That's what I said. Whose horse was it? Sorry, I missed that part. Can you just of tape seized. Yeah. That's what I said. Whose horse was it? Oh, sorry. I missed that part. Can you just get a horse? Yeah. Hundreds of hours of tapes.

You blocked that out. Yeah. Yeah. It's a trauma. I think they had a lot of people coming over. Well, it says it was just these two guys. What? Just these two guys?

It says it's frequented by men who engage in sex acts with animals. Boeing must be pissed. There's one in 17 states where we've allowed it. Yeah, Boeing would like us to shut the fuck up about this. Yeah, seriously. Boeing would come and cease and desist pretty soon. Hey, I would stop. Yeah, I guess you're right.

Stop talking. Yeah, please. Yeah. Internet chat rooms of people who want to have sex with livestock. Livestock specifically. So it's like sheep and stuff. Farm animals. Well, I think that's the only animals you can get

to fuck you. Like, you know, it's probably a wild animal. You can't even get them to sit still. And they're well endowed, too. Horses are pretty well, you can train a horse pretty well. A zebra, good luck. You can't train a, not when he's trying to fuck you. If you watch the video, it's horrific. Really? Yeah, because it just, you look at the, the dick

is as long as my arm, and then you look at his body and you do the math. Yeah. I'm like, where's it going? Out of his mouth. And it just goes, right look at the, the dick is as long as my arm. And then you look at his body and you do the math. Yeah. I'm like, where's it going? By his mouth. And it just goes right up there. And the guy makes a noise that you only make when you're getting fucked to death by a horse. There's a, look, you can't fake that sound. I appreciate that.

You're pretty good at it. You're good at it. You have the engine sounds down. You're pretty good, Joe. Thank you. Nice. Talented. Yeah.

Multifaceted. That's why I'm here and not working at Starbucks. It's a sad life. Yeah. Some people, they're like, man, that's the unfortunate reality of human existence, right? They said he did have a, I mean, it was obvious, but. Duh. Yeah, mentally ill. He's mentally ill.

Duh. Yeah. They states that bestiality or zoophilia, like other paraphilias, nonstandard sexual desires and practices, is a diagnosable disorder if it causes clinically significant stress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning. He had a whole ass job as an engineer. That's not easy. He was an engineer for Boeing. Right. Didn't he keep playing with some horse penises on the plane every once in a while?

Probably not. He's probably sticking to his job and then he'd get off work and just look for something to fill that hole. No pun intended. Hey, Kenneth, you want to hang out? No, I got something to do later. I got somewhere for you at home. I'm busy.

I just like to be around animals. I got a lot going on. He's like, the guy's just really into nature. Right. So you bought a horse, Kenneth? That's kind of cool. What are you going to ride it? Nope.

I don't think it was even their horse. I think it was someone else's horse. So I think the guy who brought him to the hospital actually wound up getting charged with criminal trespassing. Because he stole the horse? Is that true? Yep. That's the only charge there was in the case. Yeah. Because you can't charge the horse, according to them.

Right. But isn't there like a law protecting animals? Because you can't do that. Well, that's a good point. But in Washington State, there wasn't a law. I'm wondering. It's like helpless animals is what the law says or something like that. Would it have been different if he was the pitcher, if you know what I mean?

Right. Then it would be different, right? Because then you're fucking the animal. But there's still no consent. That horse didn't ask to put, you know what I mean? That's true. Well, they just grabbed the dick and put it right in the guy's butt and the horse was like, fine. The horse just wanted something

warm. Consent is not in the law. I was going to say, really? That's in this article. How did you know I was going to ask you that? I was just going to ask. Can you look up the laws of consent for horses? Expressions of concern for animal consent, in quotes, do not seem to be consistent with the terms of

U.S. law. The notion of animal consent does not appear anywhere in law. Animals may be legally castrated, hunted, or butchered, all without their consent, as long as animal cruelty statutes are not violated. What is the animal cruelty? Actually, it doesn't matter. If you have your head cut off, you could stick your penis in a man. I mean, like, obviously killing an animal is cruel, right?

So, like, we buy meat from an animal that's killed. Right. It's obviously there's some kind of cruelty depending upon, particularly if they do it like, I think kosher practices are some of the most cruel because they just slice their throat. Like, for an animal to be kosher

killed, I think they have to eat a certain type of food and then the way they do it is like one slice. They have to be slaughtered in a certain way too? I think so. I think they have to eat a certain type of food, and then the way they do it is like one slice. They have to be slaughtered in a certain way too? I think so. I think it's like one slice with a very sharp knife. Is that why it's so expensive? Definitely

as a factor. Because if it really is kosher, I think it actually has to be blessed by a rabbi too. The rabbi has to be there during the slaughter. He has to kill it? Witness it, maybe. I don't think they have to do it, too. They have to be there. The rabbi has to be there during the slaughter. He has to kill it. The rabbi? Witness it, maybe. I don't think they have to do it.

I think they have to witness it. Well, let's Google it. What is involved in kosher animals? Like when you buy kosher hot dogs. Yeah, I'm not going to knock anyone's beliefs, but that seems a little strange to me. I'm not going to knock anyone's beliefs, but that seems a little strange to me. It's strange because it was created before they figured out how to kill an animal instantaneously with that piston to the head that they do with cows. Jewish law states for the meat to be considered kosher, it must meet the following criteria.

It must come from ruminant animals with cloven or split hooves such as cows, sheep, goats, lambs, oxen, and deer. Where does the rest of the meat go? That's a good question. To the non-kosher people? You can't eat the rear? Like, you can't eat the hams? The back legs? You can't eat the ass? Certain domesticated fowl can be eaten.

So there's chicken, geese, quail, dove, and turkey. The animal must be slaughtered by a shaket, a person trained and certified to butcher animals according to Jewish laws. The meat must be soaked to remove any traces of blood before cooking. Any utensil used to slaughter or prepare the meat must be kosher and designated only for use with meat and meat products. So if you're kosher, how do you go to a restaurant? That's tough. You know? I mean, I eat dinner with Ben Shapiro, and he eats kosher, and we all went to a restaurant.

I don't think he ate anything. He might have brought his own food. His own pot. Hey, I brought my own meat. Thank you. Yeah, it might be one of those deals. Right. That's a fucking commitment.

Can you be vegan and kosher? You'll die. You wouldn't make it very far. That's a good question. Can you be vegan and kosher? Google that. Yeah. A lot of questions getting answered here.

Thank you very much. Well, listen, you're a curious guy, Rich. Thank you. That's why you're interesting. Speaking of curiosity, my second screenplay. Oh, okay. What's your second one? The second one is- Hold on a second here. Yeah. Simply put, all vegan food is kosher. Oh, okay. There youplay. Oh, okay. What's your second one? The second one is-

Hold on a second here. Yeah. Simply put, all vegan food is kosher. Oh, okay. There you go. Oh, shoot. Okay. But it depends upon how closely you follow kashrut, vegan kashrut, whatever, how you say

that. Vegan food may fail to be kosher due to preparation by non-Jews with non-kosher equipment. You have to be Jewish to prepare the food? Yes. And without kosher equipment. You have to be Jewish to prepare the food? Yes. And without kosher supervision. Since kosher laws prohibit the mixing of milk and meat, a vegan meal has nothing to worry about with this. That makes sense. So you can't mix the meat.

So because you can't mix milk and meat, cheeseburgers are out of the question. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. In summary, it says there's no contradiction between Judaism, its dietary laws, and veganism. In fact, as argued above, veganism appears to be the diet most consistent with the highest Jewish values. Okay, good. Okay.

That's good to know. We learned something today. Good stuff. Second screenplay. Okay. something today. Good stuff. Second screenplay. Okay. This one is about a person that is naturally very curious about the world. Okay. And this person is constantly asking questions like, why does it work this way? Where does money go? And this came up for me personally because there was a few scandals where I live where someone was

major money embezzlement misdirection of funds for example if if someone pays you X amount of money to do things like make sure the rows are paved that money went someplace else right so I think it's this one's a little bit simpler it's more of a person asking a lot of questions that aren't, that don't have answers to it. For example, there was a, when we say that they're, a company mismanaged funds, right? Right. And they have to pay a fine. That month, that company has to pay a fine of, let's just say a hundred thousand dollars or so, right? Or that's not a lot of money. Twenty million dollars, right? Or actually, that's not a lot of money. $20 million, right? Where does that $20 million go?

And that's what I'd like to know more of. Because once someone says, hey, you got a pay, you're going to do something, how does the money flow through the organization? Because as people, as humans, we're flawed. Like we could be biased and there's not a lot of controls in place for mismanagement of money. So once the company that is that law takes that money, where does that money go? Is that money really managed properly? Are there people that are mismanaging that money as well and using it for their own benefit?

Like I always wondered that, like there's times where we look to authority for answers for things a long time ago i i own a a house that i rent out and um the guy was dealing drugs out of that house dealing drugs out of the house you know not not a very good thing you know dealing drugs out of the house are you responsible for that no thank thankfully i wasn't what happened was they the cops came in raided the house broke the broke the door down, broke both doors down, found the guy, and said, hey, listen, you're coming to jail with us. In the news, the cops confiscated all these drugs and I think about $60,000 in cash, right? Right. Where does that money go? Not only that, the tenant actually called me three weeks later and says, I am so sorry about what happened. Really nice guy. Really weird. Paid his rent on time. He's an awesome guy. Paid in cash.

Yeah, really sad what happened, right? I wish he could have stayed. He's a great tenant. Yeah, great tenant. So they destroyed the house. He goes, hey, just to let you know, I'm going to pay for everything. I'm sorry. I'll pay for your broken door because, you know, sure as shit, insurance isn't covering it. Can't go to the police either. He covered the price of the door, covered the repairs to the apartment. And he goes, just to let you know, yes, I was. I was doing drugs out of the apartment. I was selling them. I'll also fix the walls for you. He goes,

just to let you know, when the police came, I had $160,000 in cash hitting in the walls, hidden here, hidden here. He goes, the police only reported a fraction of that. So they stole the money. So that's what I want to know. Like, where does there's... Of course they do that. The only times that you hear about things happening, like even, dare I say, even Epstein, is when something, someone gets caught.

Right. I want to know what else is going on that we're not aware of. Like, there's these overarching scams that people have been running for decades, making hundreds of millions of dollars that we don't know about. How are they doing those things without the public eye knowing? Well, I think most of those things people don't get caught. Right. I think we only find out about the ones where people got caught, hence this story about your tenant. I feel like that's probably really common.

Right. If they rob a drug dealer and, you know, these cops are tired of this bullshit. They're not getting paid enough. People are shooting at them. And then you see $160,000 and like, well, 50 for you. Yeah, don't tell anyone. Yeah, right. And then, you know, you take your wife to a nice vacation.

Right. Buy a car, whatever. What would you do, Joe? With the corrupt money? Yeah. This show on HBO Max? Oh, yeah. It's based on a real case in Baltimore.

Yeah. The cops are doing that. Yeah. Oh, well, they fucking Baltimore is super, super corrupt. So that's the one. It's probably all over the country that's happening right now as we speak. If you catch someone who's selling something illegally and they've got cash, what is the incentive to turn all that cash in? So I've always wanted to follow major companies and say, hey, listen, how is this money being redistributed in the company?

Like are there hidden millionaires that we don't know about, people that aren't in the public eye, have made amassed all this wealth due to act at legal activities of art drugs you know I'm saying like just money laundering and scandalous things like that yeah but I want to follow that but I think the premise of it is gonna be a glimpse into what their life is like once you make a few hundred million dollars what's your life like for example you're you're you know I'm sure you have a few bucks, right? And you are a normal guy, right? You're a normal, nice guy.

You're not nefarious. You don't want to kill people. We assume a lot. We assume that when someone makes $100 million or $200 million, you know, they're going to do things for good. They'll donate to charity. They'll start a business or something. What are the multi-hundred millionaires doing that aren't very nice people? You know what I'm saying?

You know how there's like evil people out there, just inherently evil people? What are people that are rich that use their money and spend it in a negative way doing? Is it something like Squid Games, for example? Do they actually do things like that? Is that real? I'm sure there's people that do that in other countries where they can go somewhere and hunt a person. Right. That's what I kind of want to focus on. The people that make their money nefariously and aren't quiet about it and use it for bad purposes, like Epstein, for example.

Yeah. Or Russian oligarchs and evil people. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be kind of cool. I mean, I think the problem is when people get into that business of just making money and that's what they're concentrating on, They just want more and more and more, and you never fill that hole. And then you also have to buy things, I guess. So you start buying yachts and mansions and fucking jets, and then you couldn't get that money coming in. I think Bezos did.

He built the biggest boat in the world, and it's just sitting there. Well, he built a boat that they were going to have to dismantle a bridge to get it through in Holland. But the blowback was so heavy, they decided to not do that. So I guess they have to get the boat out of the shipyard and then rebuild it somewhere else. Finish building it. That sounds very expensive. That sounds expensive.

But it's a fucking ridiculously long boat. It's like a 500-foot long boat or something like that. Who do you bring on that boat with you? All the bitches. With the- All the bitches. All the coke. Suitcases of coke.

That's a lot of coke, Joe. EDM. EDM. The whole crew. Morning Stars, you name it. Yeah, the whole deal. Maybe a horse. Is that a horse?

What's that horse doing here? Oh, God. What does he do with all that money? It's like, I think when you're you become a person that's just chasing money right i don't think you ever you never get that fix it's like you're always just wanting the newest latest greatest thing right i was talking to this person who is um they're like uh an attendant on a yacht on a super yacht yeah and i was asking i was like well what does the guy who owns the yacht do?

And he was like some telecommunications guy in another country. Yeah. He's got, you know, billions of dollars. Interesting. And she goes, you know what's interesting? She goes, all of these yachts are all for sale. Huh. I go, really?

She goes, yeah. They're always trying to get newer, better ones. So they buy this yacht, and it's, you know, like worth $50 million. Right. And then they're like, nah, I'm not good enough. Right. And they want a $70 million yacht. so they buy this yacht and it's you know like worth 50 million dollars right and then they're like nah I'm not good enough right and then they want

a 70 million dollar yacht and then they see their buddy who got a 100 million dollar yacht oh look at Frank how is yacht technology advancing that much you need the latest one so soon

like what's the difference between a yacht that was made two years ago and the one that's made today that's a good question I know they're super expensive to run

I have a friend who owns a yacht. Yeah. And he got an older one, and he's like super successful producer of television shows and films and stuff like that. He's very, very wealthy. Nice. Is it Dick Wolf? Nope. I don't know that guy.

I bet he's got multiple yachts. Is it Dick Wolf? That fucking show. Those shows are the dumbest shows. Yeah. And everyone watches them. Infinite money. Infinite money.

Forever. They have like 18 versions of them. Yep. They've been going on forever. Law and order. Thousands of episodes. Law and order your mom's house. Law and order like, you know what I mean?

Yeah. I mean, in many ways, it's like this endless pursuit. Of happiness. If you want money. If that's all you want out of life is money. happiness. If you want money, if that's all you want out of life is money. Right. Like, God damn, man. I think, I feel like that yacht buying, I think that's money laundering, Joe. I think it's money laundering. I think people are just, I read somewhere that one of the most frequently purchased things in cash are like large boats for some

reason. And they use it as a way to like launder money and they sell the boat later. That makes sense. Maybe it's money laundering. That could be for a lot of cases. Yeah. For sure. I don't think Jeff Bezos is laundering money though. I don't think he is, no.

Not him. But you know what I'm saying? But he might be. Maybe he's an evil billionaire. Ooh. Maybe he is. Maybe he's Gru. Yeah.

Is Gru really evil though? No, not really. He's not evil, yes. He took care of the girls. Yeah. He's a good guy. Yeah. I feel like it's one of those things where human nature never gets satisfied. The human nature of the hunter-gatherer is to sort of like acquire social status in the tribe.

And to become a leader and to become, and like that's what those guys are doing. They're just doing it on this bizarre economic scale where they're talking about thousands of millions, right? They're talking about billions of dollars. And they find ways to spend it. Instead of having their needs fulfilled and saying, oh, I'm just gonna get a nice house, and I'm just gonna have a nice piece of land, and I'll never have to work again.

No one does that. Let me ask you a question, Joe. So that kind of relates to you, right away. When do you, you love what you do. You're a super busy guy. You that kind of relates to you, right away. You love what you do. You're a super busy guy. You're always either here doing this, some comedy show, running some business. How do you know, and I struggle with this, how do you know when to stop? That's a good question. I'm at the point where I never want, I just always want to work. My main goal in life,

not a very big goal, but I never want to have to go back to working a nine to five ever again. And that is a goal that's been embedded in me for so long because I see what my life is like not being in the control of someone or a company or making someone else rich. I see my life now. I never want to go back to that again. I'm at the point where hopefully I won't have to go back. But YouTube is one of those funny things where at any moment it could just kind of fall the rug on these you have to do something out Yeah, I mean so like that is a weird thing What is it like working for a company like that and having that be a primary source of income?

I guess you'll never know Joe. No, it's it's a weird thing where YouTube is incredibly Competitive and there's something now that's been taking over YouTube for quite a few years now that's actually terrifying. It's something called clout. What's happening is they see nowadays kids don't really give a shit about being a doctor or a lawyer. They want to be on TikTok. They want to be twerking on a boat.

They want to be popular. They want to be known. Right. That's clout. What's happening is I reached out to a buddy of mine, and he put me in touch with this guy that needed help. He was a multi, multi, multimillionaire. And he had a son. And he said, my son wants to start a YouTube channel.

I said, why? Why does he want to? He has endless money. He goes, my son wants to start a YouTube channel. I said, why? Why does he want, like he has endless money. He goes, my son wants to do this because he feels that it's going to give him more life experiences, right? The guy's multi-million dollars, his dad. He goes, how much is a good amount of money to start a YouTube channel?

Is $100,000 or $200,000 okay? All people want to do nowadays is they just want their name out there. It's not even about the money. There are people, the actual celebrities have reached out to me saying, hey, can I be on your channel? I just want a five minutes of fame just so I get my face and name out there. I'm saying to myself, it's not about the money anymore, Joe. People just want clout. They want their name out there.

They want to be popular, and they want to be seen. There is something to that. Like I've had some very wealthy, successful people that want to come on the podcast because I think they're fans of it and they just want other people to see them on it. Exactly. Everyone wants to be a star. And I've seen this even on the channel in general. I had a guy come over that sold me a car and he knows I make videos. He said, hey, you know, I don't want to be in any videos. Like, I just want to sell you this car and leave. I said, OK, that's fine. I said, well, I have to shoot something really quick about the transaction for this car. I go, do you want to just be in it for a minute? He goes, absolutely. He goes, that's fine, whatever. I had the car in the air to look underneath it.

The second I turned that car, that camera on, Joe, he started making all these jokes, being lively, talking, dancing, promoting his, seriously, promoting his Instagram, making all these off-color jokes. It's amazing what a little bit of fame, I guess you could say, can do to someone. Knowing that's his time in the sun. It's time. My time is now. I gotta take it. It's amazing.

It's all about clout, Joe. People just, it's not even about money anymore. It's just like, hey, listen, I wanna be seen. People will do anything for the clout to be popular because they see what kind of fame and fortune going on YouTube could bring. You have like Jake Pauls and stuff that make crazy money starting from this platform.

Everyone wants to be on that level as well. And even people that have sworn to me, I don't want to be famous, once they get a taste of that drug show, once they're walking out somewhere and someone says, hey, don't I know you? Hey, I think I know, didn't I see you from this? It drives them crazy and they just want more and more I probably know like

On my hand three people that aren't like that the second there. I want in the video again I want to be seen again. What can this do for me? Hey, it can I promote my Instagram channel on your on your YouTube real quick a Guy came over wearing a shirt that had his Instagram tag on it. I said don't do this dude. Don't do this to me Yeah, it's crazy over wearing a shirt that had his Instagram tag on it. I said, don't do this, dude. Don't do this to me. Yeah, it's crazy. Cloud's crazy, Joe, and you can't buy swag. You can't buy being cool.

No. But people want to do that. Yeah, they think it's going to work, and they think maybe it'll help them transition out of whatever they're doing, and they can become an Instagram influencer. Right. Or what's next? If you're a millionaire,

if you have all the money in the world, Right. Right? What's next for you? You can buy whatever you want. You can't buy being cool. Right. So I think that's

the next step for them. I think they want to say, hey, I want to be seen now. Now that I can buy whatever I want, but no one knows who I am. There's plenty of millionaires and no one knows who they are.

Yeah, I know a guy like that. He's a billionaire. Yeah. He really wants to be famous. Yeah. What's like... What? Yeah. Yeah, like what wants to be famous. Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah.

Like, what's the next logical step? You know what I mean? So, yeah. You see that with people that, like, they have a company and they do their own commercials. Yeah. They're in their own commercials. Why are you doing that, dude? Yeah. Don't do that.

Don't be like this. Just hide. You should be hiding. Right. Yeah. Hide in your yacht. Yeah, hiding your yacht. But, yeah, no, YouTube, it's interesting, man.

It's so, it's super competitive, especially in the car space. Everyone wants to rebuild a car. And now my competition, because when I started out, when I did the first Tesla, that thing was $14,000. I scraped every penny that I had, savings, whatever, panhandling, you name it. So I had that car, and that's how I built the channel. 14 grand. Guess what? I needed another few grand to do this. Took out a savings for a 1K, you name it. I made it work. Nowadays, entering the car space, there are kids that have checks from their parents for a hundred grand to buy a car to work on. It's incredible. There are companies that have

always had money that say, hey, listen, we want to do this now. There are companies that have always had money that say, hey listen, we wanna do this now. There's companies that aren't cool, but wanna be cool in that space to promote their product, and will throw whatever money it costs at it. My advice to you would be not think about that, because you're already cool. Yeah, thank you.

What you should do is, I enjoy your show. Thank you very much. Thank you, thank you. I watch it all the time. Thank you. I think a guy like you should do is, I enjoy your show. Thank you very much. Thank you, thank you. I watch it all the time. Thank you. I think a guy like you should just concentrate on being you and ignore all that shit. As long as you're making money off of it, and you clearly are, don't worry about it. Don't think about competition. I don't think at all about competition.

You have competition, Joe? You have competition? I'm sure there's some out there. Okay. It's like four million podcasts. Yeah, but they're not big. It's not the Joe Rogan experience. I don't know how this got big.

It got big by me just doing this. I do zero promotion. It might be you. It might have something to do with you, Joe. I think it does. Whatever it is, I'm going to just keep being me then. Right. Because it's like, if that's the formula,

but imagine if I started thinking about my competitors and what are my competitors doing and how do I keep a leg up on my competitors? That's wasted resources and energy. That's not how I got here in the first place. I got here in the first place just by being me. And I think you got where you are by being you. Thank you. And I think you should spend zero time thinking about other people unless you're enjoying their show.

Yeah, that's not okay. Unless you find someone and you go, oh, I like his show. Right. Like there's a lot of people in the car space that I really enjoy, like Chris Harris. Yeah. That's great. I enjoy Matt Farah. Yep.

He's great. There's a lot of people that are cool. I like watching their shows. I mean, if that's what you enjoy and you enjoy it for that. Right. Like I don't think of other comedians as being competition. I think of them as being other artists that I enjoy their work. Right.

Do you see it as we all, there's enough room for all of us to eat? Yes. You think it's as that? You can have a million comedians, right? Yes. Gotcha. 100%. And not only that, the more there are, the better it is for everybody. So you don't think that it gets saturated. That's my fear. You don't think it gets saturated sometimes because you have, especially for a show, there's 50 different shows to watch, but you only have an hour's worth of time. If I thought about that, I would be fucked. Because there's four million podcasts.

Right. Right? So if I thought about it, oh my God, what if it's saturated? What if I'm going to fall off? Right. I don't give a fuck. I might start one. Good.

Start one. The Rich V. Goats podcast. Look, you're good here. Yeah, I'm all right. Why not? Yeah, it's not a bad idea. Give me some competition. Give me some competition. Knock you off that pedal, Joe. Dude, you could do it. You 100% Yeah, it's not a bad idea. Give me some competition. Give me some competition.

Knock you off that pedal, Joe. Dude, you could do it. You 100% could do it. You're great on this. You were great the last time I had you on. Thank you. You're great on your YouTube channel. It's not much difference.

It's just you being a person. Good point. So just like Matt Farah, he's a podcast too. Oh, he's great. Started his show doing YouTube videos, started doing a podcast afterwards. Anyone can do this. Right. This is not just got to be an interesting person. You're already that, so bam.

Just don't think about other people. Okay. Fuck all those other people. That's good advice. Yeah. Not literally, but just- No, don't fuck them all. Forget about them.

And don't let them fuck you either. Right. What you should do is just enjoy what you enjoy and do what you do. Right. Thank you. It sounds so simple, and it's not advice that I would give to the Starbucks guy. Yeah, no. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. What would you even tell him, Joe? Just say some dopey guy that makes $12 an hour comes up to you and says, hey, you know, what do I do? I'm sad. Yeah. No one likes me. I would probably try to get him to do something physical that he's interested in because I think that would excite his body. Right.

And, like, maybe, you know, pick up rock climbing or something like anything where you have a purpose, like a hobby that you enjoy. Good point. And then maybe one day you could turn that purpose or that hobby, that thing that you focus on, you actually like. Like some money. Yeah. Maybe it could become what you do for a living.

Right. Good point. Good point. Is there hope for everyone, Joe? You think there's hope for everyone or you think people are just hopeless? I think it depends on the choices you make, the circumstances you find yourself in, luck. There's a lot of factors. Obviously, there's no hope for anyone to live forever.

No, definitely not. We're all going to die, right? Definitely not. So at some point in time, you're going to run out of hope. Right. The hope is that you left enough love behind and you were kind enough to a lot of people that remember you fondly. Good point. You left a mark, I guess.

Yeah. If that's important when you're dead. Right. Is it? I mean, yeah, I'd like to. I mean, I have videos of me out there, so yeah. It would be nice if people remembered you in a fond way. Right.

But at the end of the day, you're not going to have any idea. Is it true that it's either you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain? Is there any truth to that? I think with a lot of people, that's probably the case. Yeah. You know, I mean, what if Jim Morrison was still alive today? Would it be an idiot? Right.

You know, who knows? There's a lot of old people that just become deplorable. They don't like them after a while. It's like, I don't know man, I don't think there's any set thing in life that you definitely will be or will become. You bring up a good point. When you say old people,

I think that's a fear that I have personally. I fear becoming, I guess you could say old and irrelevant. Yeah, like old and in the way. You know what I mean? Because, I mean, again, social media life, it moves so fast. How do you not get left behind is my biggest thing. How do I not become that old guy in the corner that's just yelling at kids to get off his lawn? Because at this point, you know, I'm older.

Right. You know, like I'm not that young, young hip cool kid that's in his you know late 20s that i when i started out now a little bit older and more mature now how do i keep that same spirit you know what i mean how do i not become you know what i swore to destroy whatever that means i think you continue to enjoy your life continue to have good friendships and good relationships continue to do things that you're passionate about right continue to do things that are exciting. Because one of the things about doing something that you're passionate about is it's very contagious. Like I will watch someone do pottery if they're really into it. I'll watch someone paint. I'll watch someone make furniture.

I like watching people that are into, I like watching people take apart watches and finish them and refurbish them. Right. I don't know why. It's cool. ASMR where they're not even talking. Right. You're just hearing the sounds and everything.

They're just moaning. I'll spend fucking 45 minutes watching some guy take a watch apart and put it back together again. I don't know why. Yeah. I like when people are interested in things. Right. I think other people are as well.

And I think that's what people get out of your show, that you're clearly fascinated and you're in love with cars. You love them. I do. You know, like when you're barreling around that fucking Corvette. Yeah, yeah. You can tell. Yeah, I love that thing.

Yeah, look at you smile. Look at you smile immediately. Yeah, right. Like immediately. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got an uncontrollable, you smile with your whole face. I do. I love that car, man.

Yeah. I love that thing. Fuck yeah. You know the cars that invoke emotion. You know, man. Yeah. I love that thing. Fuck yeah. You have a car that invokes emotion. You know how that goes. I just love that thing. Yes. You know what I mean?

Yes. Well, that is the argument against the electric car. Right. Right? Is that it does. But I guess it does with some people. But I think they've probably never driven a Corvette. No.

No, but they'll be like, eh, it smells, and then and then. Right. Yeah. My wife says that, man. I have a 1970 Chevelle, and I took her out to dinner with it. She's like, oh, it's so loud. Oh, it's bouncy. Oh, I'm like, babe, come on.

This is the greatest fucking car ever. Yeah, right. Tell her to take two separate cars then. Tell her to drive her Plaid, and you drive that one. Yeah. See who gets more looks. It's just some people like different things. But if you like something, just continue to like it.

Look at fucking Jay Leno's garage. That's insane. Jay Leno should be irrelevant after leaving the tonight show No one should give a fuck. That's a good point. He's more loved right now because of Jay Leno's garage He has a lot of money too though to be fair that helps I might that help but it's also what he spends his money on is clearly not for clout. He has an impressive garage man It's not just one. Yeah, there's 11 of them. There's 11 of them. I know. There's 11 warehouses filled with cars. That's amazing to me.

It's fucking nuts, man. That's amazing to me, man. When you go to see it, you're like, holy shit. Are there tours for it? Can I be invited on to this show somehow? I bet you could get on it with your Tesla. I bet 100%. Yeah.

Maybe I could even arrange that. That'd be kind of sick. Yeah, because I bet you would love it. It's sick. It's so sick. It's sick. It's so sick. It is sick. You'd have to transport it to California and drive it around Burbank. So be it.

That wouldn't be that hard. It's been to California before, yeah. That's probably a great move for you because that would be a really good show to be on because that guy fucking loves cars. And you could tell. He's passionate, right? Yeah. He doesn't wear makeup on that show.

He doesn't have a fucking stylist. He's wearing jean jackets and shit. A jean shirt. Yeah. He doesn't wear makeup on that show. He doesn't have a fucking stylist. He's wearing jean jackets and shit. A jean shirt. Yeah. He's just, that's Jay Leno. Right. But that's a perfect example of a show that became very popular purely because of his passion and his interest.

I don't think he's running around thinking whether or not he's relevant. No. Yeah, no, he's not. You know what I mean? It's like you can't, don't concentrate on things you have no control over. Right. And I don't know whether or not you have control over whether or not you's relevant. No. Yeah, no, he's not. You know what I mean? It's like you can't, don't concentrate on things you have no control over. Right. And I don't know whether or not

you have control over whether or not you're relevant. I think the way, you have control over whether or not you do things that are interesting and in turn,

that is attractive or unattractive to people. Right. That's a good point. Very good point. Yeah, I, it's funny, when I was coming down here,

you guys don't have any mountains or like, Nothing. No mountains. Little hills. Any swamps or any like, Oh, there's funny when I was coming down here, you guys don't have any like mountains or like. Nothing. No mountains. Little hills. Any swamps or any like. Oh, there's a lot of water. Really?

Yeah. I wanted to bring the Sherp down. It's been so sick. You know the Sherp? You've seen the Sherp before, right? Yes. I want to bring that thing down so bad. Pull up a video of the Sherp.

How did you get that thing? I got it in Texas. There was this, you know what I did? I saw a Kanye West video. He's got a bunch of them, right? Yeah, he has like 30 of them. At his ranch. I was like, I want one of those.

But I couldn't afford that. Oh, there it is. I love this thing so much. So that thing will go through everything? Literally everything, yeah. And this is yours? That's mine, yeah. And so you bought it in Texas?

Is this where you bought it? Look at that. That's where I was. I want to say Corpus Christi. I don't know where I was in Texas, but it is one of the most fun vehicles. I never drive it. Look at this. Driving over logs and shit.

It looks like a toy. And does it go underwater? Not under. How deep can it go? I took it in the ocean a few times. What? Yeah. Yeah.

You won't get there fast, but you'll get there. So what kind of an engine is in this thing? It's a Kubota four-cylinder turbo diesel. So in each wheel is a storage tank for gasoline. What? You can go thousands, like a thousand miles without stopping for fuel. What? Yeah.

So it has an onboard gas tank, and in the wheels themselves there's also storage for inside of the wheels, too. So inside the wheels is gasoline? Yeah. Look what you want. When I actually first got it, there was actually moonshine because they're all from Ukraine. There it is right there.

They're all from Ukraine. So they actually would go on expeditions with their buddies and they would store whatever liquids they want in them. How much does one of these things cost? Nowadays, probably like a buck, a buck 20-ish.

Yeah. Play that again? Keep playing it? I was going to go to their website. Oh, okay. Go to the website. Yeah. So they sell used ones?

Is that what it is? Or are they still manufacturing them? They still make them, but the version that I have, they don't make anymore because there's no emissions controls on them. All the new ones that are imported have to have computerized emissions. Right. But the one that I have is very popular because it's a better form factor, and there's no emissions on it.

Huh. You're getting hacked right now. Yeah, they're getting hacked. You're going into Ukraine. Ukraine, yeah. Yeah, you're done. Yeah, Macedonia, they're hacking you. Number one, Sherp ATV sales.

What is the cheapest Sherp? Try that one, Sherp sales. Let's see that. Okay, here we go. We got a website. Sherp ATV sales, nationwide broker the cheapest Sherp? Try that one. Sherp sales. Let's see that. Okay, here we go. We got a website. Sherp ATV sales. Nationwide broker service. New and used.

So they only have the pro, which is the big one. That's $1.50. Yeah. Look at that thing, though. Yeah. So that's larger, huh? Yeah, a lot larger. That's the thing.

So I went down there. Whoa, look at that thing. How many people it seats? Oh, you know what you should do? Look up the ARK, Jamie. The A-R-K. Sherp ARK. It fits like 20 people.

It has a trailer where you can fit all your buddies in it. And what it will do is if there's like a giant crater that you have to go over, the trailer will – That's it. Whoa. Yeah. Holy shit. I think Kanye has like 30 of them just because. That is awesome.

The trailer floats too. That's it, yeah. Wow. So what it'll do, you see the trailer at the back of it? Yeah. The trailer will pick up the Sherp and drop it over a large crater. Oh my God. So that trailer is, there we go.

There you go. Yeah, I think it's up top there. There it is. Whoa. So this is like super sophisticated. Yeah, you see how it up top there. There it is. Whoa. So this is like super sophisticated. Yeah, you see how it was lifting up the front of it? Oh. It actually lifts up the shirt to throw it over there.

That is fucking wild. You should get one, Joe. Oh, gosh. They're incredible. I have no place for it. But if I had a place, if I had a ranch. It's Texas, Joe. You don't have to be running it.

I've got to get a ranch. One day I'll get a ranch. Get a ranch, man. I want to get a podcast ranch. That's one of my ideas is to have, if I get bored with just having conversations with people sitting across the desk, I want to have conversations with them where we do stuff. Have them tend the horses. Podcasts can be in the back of that.

Yeah. Yeah. We totally could. Seriously. Look how sick that is. We drive around in one. So it floats. That is bonkers.

It does. I mean, I took it in dirt, sand. I think it's the most capable vehicle in the world. It's pretty crazy. Yeah. It's wild. It's dope looking, too. It's very much like an apocalypse vehicle. I took it to Dunkin' Donuts. I got free donuts. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, it's wild. It's dope looking too. It's very much like an apocalypse vehicle.

I took it to Dunkin' Donuts. I got free donuts. It was pretty cool. When they saw that, they gave you free donuts? They gave me free donuts, yeah. Well, that's a nice perk. Yeah, the rich get richer. Rich, I got to wrap this up.

All right. But thank you very much for being here. Awesome. Thank you very much. Always good to talk to you. Thank you very much, Joe. I really appreciate your show. Tell everybody, Rich Rebuilds.

It's on YouTube. Thank you, thank you. Do you have Instagram and your show. Tell everybody, Rich Rebuilds. It's on YouTube. Thank you. Thank you. Do you have Instagram and all that jazz? Instagram, Richie B. Kid with two Ds. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And Twitter?

Not on Twitter. Good for you. Yeah, Twitter. Stay off that toxic fucking- That's cool. Yes. All right. Thank you, brother.

Appreciate you. Appreciate it, man. Bye, everybody. Awesome.