The Joe Rogan Experience - #1852 - Sam Tripoli

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

Sam Tripoli is stand-up comedian, writer, host of the "Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli" and "Zero with Sam Tripoli" podcasts, and co-host of several others, including "Cash Daddies," "Conspiracy Social ...Club," "Broken Simulation," and "Union of the Unwanted." https://samtripoli.com/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! Comedy Crime Fighter. You don't hear it? I hear it, there we go. Bam! Yeah, we're in it.
Starting point is 00:00:20 We even have a cough button. Damn. It's like a real radio show. Damn, professional, Joe. You have to blow your nose or anything. You press that red button. Not anymore, dog. What's happening, brother?
Starting point is 00:00:29 I don't do any of that stuff anymore. Oh, that stuff. How long has it been since you did that stuff? A year and eight months almost. Oh, so you go back, you go forth. No, no, no, dude. I'm clean as a whistle, dude. Done.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Nothing. How many times did you quit in the past? Well, I went five years sober and then I went ten years just running and gunning and now I'm back to a year and eight months, man. Ten years of running and gunning? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Wow. Yeah. White knuckling it, dude. White knuckling it. Literally. Survive in advance. That's what I was doing. Yeah. Thanks for having me, bro. I love you. I love you, too. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Good to be here. What the fuck's going on? Just, you know. Are we ready to go to war with China? Manifesting, bro. You see what's going on? Happy World War III day, everybody. Nancy Pelosi's in China.
Starting point is 00:01:17 They're rolling tanks around. Have you seen this? I heard they threatened. They're not a direct threat, but they said if anything happens with those jets, you might fire back. Keep your jets out of our area. They said something like that. Our jets?
Starting point is 00:01:30 Yeah, there was some, I'll look it up. But then they were saying this is not a direct threat. We're not taking this as a direct threat. This is not a threat. And I was like, oh, there's a lot of threats being said a lot. Her and those 80-year-old sloppy tits of hers are going to get us in trouble. Why is she there? Well, there's a whole bunch to that.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Like, has to do something with some processing chips that she has some, like, illegal, like, insider trading on or something like that. Look at this. In a banned tweet, a top state media commentator reportedly said that China could forcibly dispel Pelosi's
Starting point is 00:02:04 plane and shoot it down if it flies to Taiwan. Could you fucking imagine if they blow her out of the sky? It'd be crazy, dude. And you see everybody on Twitter just telling China, you know, hey, if it happens, we understand. Imagine if they fucking execute her. Yeah, it's crazy, right? Because because like i guess russia's not happening so they're like who else can we go russia is happening though but i mean like in terms of like i don't know man just seems like the ukraine is like just a complete failed state
Starting point is 00:02:40 well russia is ramping up and the real fear fear is that what's going on right now is all happening while the roads are moist. You can only travel on the road. You can't drive on the ground in Ukraine. So, like, they're very limited. So their tactics are very limited because when they move the tanks in, the Ukrainians are shooting at them from the side of the road. But once the winter comes, you could drive anywhere. Oh, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Winter is coming. Literally. Yeah. Literally winter is coming. So we're headed towards September, right? We're in August now. Next month is September. And then once it gets cold in Ukraine, I don't know when it gets cold in Ukraine exactly,
Starting point is 00:03:24 but once it gets cold, that ground gets hard. Once that ground gets hard, they can roll tanks anywhere. They can't go off the side of the road. They get bogged down now. You think World War III is coming? I'm very scared. I am too. I don't trust that anyone has got a really good plan to prevent it.
Starting point is 00:03:45 It doesn't seem like anybody expected Russia to do what they did in Ukraine. And then once it happens, it's still happening. So it's like, how do we get out of that? How does Ukraine survive it? How does the rest of the world handle it? What happens if Russia takes over Ukraine and then wants to push further? Scary shit, dude. It is scary
Starting point is 00:04:09 shit. Because it's like a hot war in, I mean, it's not technically Europe. It's technically Asia. Right? But we think of Russia and how is Russia is like partially Europe and partially Asia? Is that how it is? Ukraine is definitely in Europe and I don. Is that how it is? Ukraine is definitely in Europe.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And I don't know about Russia. Like some parts of Russia are considered to be. Yeah, like Eastern Europe. Yeah. So Europe and part of Russia is in Asia, right? Well, I'm Armenian. Transcontinental country. Armenia is a part of asia but i have like eastern
Starting point is 00:04:48 european armenian in me right so it's kind of so it's like that weird kind of gray space in there right there fuck dude what a wild world we live in and ukraine reminds me a lot of afghanistan and what we did there which was like like, you know, like supplying weapons and funding to like extremists there and then drawing Russia into like a prolonged war to try to weaken them. And then eventually the people we gave the weapons to and the money to, we make them the bad guys now. And we're like, we got to go solve that problem too with like Al Qaeda and stuff that was in the Taliban and all that stuff stuff and it seems like the exact same playbook that they run over and over and over and over again the difference is they're making the ukrainians look like the greatest
Starting point is 00:05:34 people ever yeah you know that you know i'm saying like zelensky and his wife on the cover of vogue unbelievable yeah it's very strange to do that in the middle of a war, to have a photo shoot, like a glamorous photo shoot. While you're bombing POW camps and stuff like that. Killing off your own... What do you mean bombing POW camps? Didn't Ukraine just bomb a giant POW camp? I was reading, and that killed a bunch of people.
Starting point is 00:06:04 A bunch of Ukrainians? Yeah. By accident? By people. I don't know if it was done by accident. And you see that a lot. So basically, they blacked out the Ukraine. It was very hard to get anything out of the Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Explosion kills Ukrainian POWs held by Russian-backed forces. Moscow and Kiev accuse each other of targeting Ukrainian prisoners held in Russian-controlled territory. So it's not clear who did it. Yeah, which side? Imagine being a fucking prisoner in Russia, like this Brittany Griner situation. Imagine being a fucking prisoner in Russia. And you are basically caught in a war. Like you are a pawn in the war.
Starting point is 00:06:50 You're a pawn. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. I feel for any of those people. I feel really bad for her. I feel really bad for Julian Assange. I feel really bad for anybody in America that's in a prison prison for drugs in particular marijuana yeah no it's
Starting point is 00:07:08 ridiculous and how about uh Edward Snowden like he's still stuck in Russia and now Russia is like technically our enemy you know he goes over to Russia to escape the grips of the United States criminal justice system because he reveals that the NSA has been spying on every fucking American. Yep. Yeah. There's no good guys. Who are the good guys? Most of us don't even want to fight with you.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Everybody just wants to raise their family, laugh at a good fart joke, drink a little beer, have a little fun, get laid once in a while, and it's like these power elites that all get us all to fight with each other. I know. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:49 It is crazy. It's crazy. And like the spectrum of life, 5%, 5% on each end are the crazy people, and everybody in the middle just wants to be. Like I used to go entertain the troops, we went to Afghanistan and you met the locals. They were the nicest people. You know, I would do tours in China. I would do stand up in China.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Nicest people. Like everybody is so more alike than we are different. But we highlight these little things that gets everybody to fight with each other. Well, it's other people that, you know, they orchestrate it. It's not the people that are just regular folks living their life. It's the elites. It's the people that are in charge of government, the people that are in charge of military, the people that are in charge of massive corporations that seek to consolidate power and control resources. And, you know, regular people, most people just want to live their life
Starting point is 00:08:46 and raise their family and have fun with their friends and do their job. Get laid once in a while. It's such a small percentage of people that are cunts that are trying to start wars and cause trouble. It's such a small percentage of people. And the thing they're most terrified of is everyone being united.
Starting point is 00:09:07 If there was like a way where everyone could communicate very easily with everyone else, you know, there's language barriers and cultural barriers. But if those dissolve because of the internet and because of software that lets people translate languages quickly. That's going to help. And it's just people are going to realize after a while that we have way more in common than we do apart. That's easy to hide when there's language barriers and cultural barriers and distance
Starting point is 00:09:39 barriers. And the control of information. Like if you're getting pumped certain things and that's all you're hearing all the time that's all you're going to believe but thanks to the internet now we realize that there's like a whole other side of the story that we were never told and if you take a look at religions man you look at like christianity islam judaism they're all almost saying the exact same thing. It's like almost where they power rank Jesus, right?
Starting point is 00:10:08 It's like where the fight's over, right? Is he the top guy? Is he like ranked fifth? Or is he just a regular dude? Yeah, right? What is he? Is he just a prophet? Is he a mystic man, wizard dude? Who knows? Or was he the son of God? Or was he the son of God? What do you think?
Starting point is 00:10:24 Do you think there was really a Jesus? Listen, man, it's very weird to be a guy who used to, like, do blow and raw dog strippers and be like, I love Jesus. But, you know, I'm really cool with the guy. It's a really weird thing to say. Like, you sometimes, like, you pump the brakes a little bit. But, man, a big journey for me has been this spiritual thing that I've been on. And, like, I think Jesus was just like a star seed. And I don't know, like—
Starting point is 00:10:50 What do you mean by that? Like, okay, man, I think that, like— Should I smoke weed before you talk? Go for it, dude. Please, light it up, bro. I feel like we're going to get deep into the conspiracy hole. Well, I was talking to young Jamie about that. He's very much into it.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Oh, young Jamie is a connoisseur of conspiracies. Gets it, dude. Gets it. He gets it. I think that the universe sends people down to help send humanity and to help direct people and humanity in certain way and directions. And I think that's what he was. And whether he was born at this time or born way back,
Starting point is 00:11:26 you know, when they had that one movie that was like, the story of Jesus is told 28 different times. Yeah, that's called The God Who Wasn't There. That's the documentary. For me, that doesn't mean that someone existed and they're just telling the same story in their own language, in their own way, but it's all the same story.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And whoever that was, whenever he was here, was very special and organized religion, which I have no problems with. But I think there's, you know, especially like the Vatican and Rome, hardened religion, taking out all the kind of mysticism of it and made us take it literal. And that's not what I'm into. I'm into a spiritual thing and the universe and energy. I'm trying to become a wizard. Trying to become a wizard. Dude, I'm trying to manipulate energy. That's the whole thing right now. How are you doing this?
Starting point is 00:12:15 There is no reality. There's only perception. That's what I'm all about. So I really have worked on changing the way I look at the world. There's no reality. There's only perception. Yeah, that's my belief. How's that work?
Starting point is 00:12:26 How you perceive things becomes your reality. But what about things that are tangible, like games, like the game of basketball? If you throw a ball and it does not go into the hoop, then it does not go into the hoop. That's not a perception thing. Those are little things. Those are little things. But overall, you could be like, okay, is that a good shot or was that a garbage shot? Well, I tried to take my shot and that could be a good part of that.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Do you understand what I'm saying? The interpretation of the energy. That's what I'm all about. The interpretation of the energy. So my whole thing is when we take a look at everything going on in the world, which is like, is there a small group of people that are running everything? It seems like there is. What is that World Economic Forum?
Starting point is 00:13:12 What is Davos? Have you ever gotten into that? Did you see that post? There was a post that... Fuck, who made it? Here, I'll send it to you, Jamie. But I pulled it aside just because I'm like, wait a minute. Did he really fucking say this? It was a Klaus Schwab quote.
Starting point is 00:13:29 It was attributed to Klaus Schwab saying that we need to get rid of private vehicles. Oh, yeah. Is that real? Did he really say that? Oh, well, I mean, they put out that video says, you know, in 2030, you'll own nothing and love it. I'll send it to you, Jamie. Yeah, I put out that video that says, you know, in 2030, you'll own nothing and love it. I'll send it to you, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah, I did see that. And some guy from Central Casting's just smiling. It's like, you booked it. You'll own nothing and you will be happy. That's what it said. You'll own nothing and you'll be happy. Yeah. Well, then someone's got to own it because they're renting it to me. No, you'll own nothing.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Well, not you. Me, I won't own nothing, but they'll own everything. World Economic Forum urges public to eliminate ownership of private vehicles. Well, not you. Me, I won't own nothing, but they'll own everything. World Economic Forum urges public to eliminate ownership of private vehicles. Do you think he is rising the bus? How about his dad, bro? That's from someone, Gateway Pundit. World Economic Forum urges public to eliminate ownership of private vehicles.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Did he really say that? That seems like a crazy thing to say. Well, you know, it's super interesting, man, who they are and what they represent. It came from this paper they put out on July 18th, which- Three circular economy approaches to reduce demand for critical metals. Oh, wow. And this is, who put this out? This is on the World Economic Forum. The World Economic Forum?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Yeah. Shifting from fossil fuels to renewables requires huge amounts of critical metals, which is true. Recycling alone won't be enough to sustain the amount. Oh, I get it. They fucking played the old switcheroo on us. You got to get an electric car. So, actually, now that we've got you off the fossil fuels, that's not enough.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Not even cars. No, you don't need a car. Recycling is not going to be enough to sustain the amount of materials needed. So, we need to increase sharing, reuse, and a preference for longevity to reduce demand. What does that even mean? Who's going to own the Ubers? Interpret that, please. We need to increase sharing, reuse, and a preference for longevity to reduce demand.
Starting point is 00:15:28 What does that mean? Why is that so ambiguous? I get reduced sharing. I get reusing. But a preference for longevity to reduce demand? What does that mean? Do you know what that means? Don't buy new cars a lot.
Starting point is 00:15:42 But a preference for longevity so preferring older cars is that what it's prefer to own it longer like like cuba like communist cuba they have the dopest old cars anything that's basically what they're saying buy our shit they have cars they have cars in cuba they have dope old cars which i love old cars oh my god have you ever seen like those photographs of, because what they've done is they've maintained them and taken care of them
Starting point is 00:16:08 and like, you know, like refixed them and refinished them. They're fucking amazing. Yeah. They have like 1950s dope ass cars.
Starting point is 00:16:17 See if you can find, like I know there's articles that have been written on the cars of Cuba. Poverty makes you find ways to thrive, right? You have to figure out a way to play the game and win the game with limited resources and that would be
Starting point is 00:16:30 taking an old car and learning how to make it look amazing that is kind of the game right? Yeah for sure that mean that's always been like a prideful thing for people if you you can afford a car and you know fix it up like look at that cars in Cuba photo gallery where the green car's in the center. The top, yeah, right there. One more over. No, you missed it. Right there, yeah. Look at that. Look at those cars, man. That's incredible. So they do have a few modern cars. You can see that car's pretty modern. But I think part of the issue is, we could find this out. I think part of the issue is that it's hard to get cars over there.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Why is Cuba filled with classic cars? Let's see what it says. The story of classic cars in Cuba is full of political and historical significance. Cuba has never had a car manufacturing industry, so they relied solely on automotive imports to populate the island's roads. solely on automotive imports to populate the island's roads. During the Cuban-Spanish-American War, the first car ever imported to Cuba was, how do you say that?
Starting point is 00:17:32 La Parisine? I'm illiterate, bro. Parisine from a little-known French manufacturer in 1898. However, at the turn of the century, Cuba's primary source of cars and parts was the United States. So that's what it is. Okay, 20th century. By 1956, there were more than 140,000 cars in Cuba. Okay, and then the Cuban Revolution and the embargo is 59.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And it says, saw a change in the island's automotive industry as old friends became foes. Fidel Castro placed an embargo on the U.S. and foreign imports. Oh, you couldn't get cars in there. Any cars. Which meant no American cars were exported to the island. The embargo even extended to include car parts, which had serious implications for Cuban car owners. With no new cars coming into the country and no parts available to make repairs, car owners had the make a choice. I guess the typo. Had
Starting point is 00:18:27 to make a choice. Either let their cars rust in the garage or use what parts they had available and make repairs themselves. Wow. So they just started figuring out how to make parts, I guess. How to make their own parts. Yeah. They became a mechanic and created innovative ways to keep their cars running. Unfortunately, as abandoned American cars included American car parts, Cuban locals were forced to make repairs and restorations using parts gleaned from Russian and Chinese vehicles. Primary of the plethora of... Oh, that's right. I'd heard a lot of these cars have different engines in them.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Like, they don't have the original engine in them. Ah. But aren't there places in, like in China that make old car parts? Let's say you own a fancy old car and you need a new part. They don't make them in the regular car manufacturer. So there's places in China that make old car parts. I'm sure they probably do. I mean, they definitely do in America.
Starting point is 00:19:20 There's a company called Year One. It's a really dope company. And Year One makes classic car parts. Yeah. do in america there's a company called year one it's a really dope company and year one makes classic car parts yeah like say if you have a 1969 camaro you can get a 1969 camaro fender like a full-on replica fender make sure that's true i know because i know they have a lot of sounds true go to year one it's like year one auto stuff but, because so many people in America love classic cars, they've developed this industry where they can give you replaceable parts. And then there's companies that make you a brand new classic car.
Starting point is 00:19:56 So this is, yeah, so it's all stuff that they'll make, like A-Body 1962 to 1976 Dodge Duster. Let's go to that because that's a pretty obscure. Well, actually, go to the Barracuda. Go to the Barracuda. Okay, so 1970 to 1974 E-Body Barracuda. What do they sell? Might not have a lot of stuff in stock right now. New or selling items?
Starting point is 00:20:20 Does it say anything? Does it have anything? That would come up. Okay, but what is it? None of that stuff down there? All that stuff down there? What is all that stuff? Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:20:28 So those are... Oh, I see. Step one section. This is a website. Right. It's a little clunky, right? The website's a little clunky. So go to Engine.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yeah, let's just... Let's go to Engine. So click on that. Oh, yeah. Ah, there we go. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. It's like you...
Starting point is 00:20:43 How dare you question me? Oh, my God. They have so much for sale. They have everything. Look at all Jesus Christ. It's like you, how dare you question me? Oh, my God. They have so much for sale. They have everything. Look at all this shit. There's a lot. Yeah. Alternators and 500 wedge crate engine.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Oh, go back, please. 500 wedge crate engine, 505 horsepower. They have, oh, look at all these different engine mounts. Oh, they have all kinds of shit they have different blocks yeah yeah this is like your own like classic new car basically basically a classic new car and then there's other companies that will do it for you from scratch there's this company called revology and he only made I think he only does Mustangs but dude these cars are insane.
Starting point is 00:21:26 He makes a Mustang. He takes like, I don't know what of the old car you even have to have because it's not the old car. It's a fucking completely brand new Mustang. I want one of those so bad. But that's a 67. That's a GT350, I think. That is a wicked car, man. And this guy will make you a new one of them. Look at the inside of it.
Starting point is 00:21:51 It's incredible. What's that cost you? A shitload of money. I don't know, but it's worth it if you have it. It's a shitload of money. But see, the difference is, people, no, it's not worth it. You're right. Nothing's worth that amount of money.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Go back up to that first image, the blue one. Yeah, right there. Nothing's worth that amount of money. Go back up to that first image, the blue one, yeah right there. Nothing's worth the amount of money, like if you're talking like hundreds of thousands of dollars for a car, but that thing is a fucking rolling work of art. And it might be one of the only reasons why you would want to have that kind of money. Yeah, exactly. Look at that thing, man. If you can afford it, I mean bro look at that That's art right there that is art and maybe some people don't get it
Starting point is 00:22:29 I get it like some people think my you know, I have classic cars. Some people think they look stupid I was like I get it. I get it. I get it They're loud and they're fucking noisy and they're bumpy and they yeah, they don't handle as good but there's a difference in what's going on. You're looking at it like a Yugo. You're looking at it like a thing that gets you from point A to point B. You're looking at it like a Prius. That is not a Prius. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:22:56 That is American ingenuity, and it's a powerhouse. It's American art. How can you look at that and think that looks stupid? Bro, that thing is so sick. That's a 1968. That's the same car from Steve McQueen and Bullitt. 100%. Does it make it a little smaller?
Starting point is 00:23:11 Like that looks stupid? A Prius looks stupid. God damn, that thing is sexy. That is gorgeous. Look how sexy that car is. They just knew how to make cars back then, man. knew how to make cars back then man they just it's the weirdest thing that a country and all you like an industry can figure out like this insanely compelling shape and then lose it like it was like it just vanished like what they had versus what it became yeah those things became
Starting point is 00:23:43 gross yeah you look at mustangs from like the 80s. Yeah, dude. Like, yuck. I used to drive one of those. I was in a high-speed car chase with a tow truck driver and a police helicopter driving one of those, like the 80s, 90s Mustang that Pablo Francisco gave me in a card game that he won. And Rita Piazza was like, I fucking
Starting point is 00:24:05 hate this card. Really? And I needed a card, and she gave it to me. That's amazing. And I was at a Laker game, and me and my buddy Scott Ross, who owns 10th Planet in Ventura, we were going to a Laker game. We got done. I might have been partying that night a little bit, but I go and I go to the 7-Eleven.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I buy some stuff. I get back in my car and I back up and I don't see this tow truck driver had parked illegally and I hit his car. And I was like, what should I do? And a voice inside my head says, go. And I'm like, bro. And I just go, right? So we're just driving.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And I'm just driving. Suddenly I hear, I look back, this tow truck driver is chasing me. And we're just, and then all of a sudden we get into like this Robert De Niro, Ronan, like car chase scene through West Hollywood, all through West Hollywood. And we get on Santa Monica and this car was like a beat up car. It was like a junk. So he, this guy's so crazy, this car tow truck driver. He drives up on the sidewalk and blocks all of the traffic from going.
Starting point is 00:25:08 And I had nowhere to go. So I was like, fuck it, bro. I back up and I shoot the intersection. I jump the intersection. Boom. And I take off. And the way I got away was I valet parked my car at the Standard Hotel and Maz Jabani took me and we went down and did our weekend at La Jolla. That's a true story, dude.
Starting point is 00:25:32 You just valet parked your car. I was like, not mine. Yeah, yeah. Take it, dude. And I got out of there, dude. What year was this? This had to be early 2000s. And I didn't have a car and he gave me a car.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Could you imagine what it was like if you got arrested in the 60s and there was no computers? Like, how did they know? You could get away with a lot more shit back then. I can imagine. If you're like, you're a bank robber and you're fleeing the state. Yeah, for sure. How the fuck would they know? If you got like two, three states away, how the fuck would they know it was you?
Starting point is 00:26:04 I think you just got to get on one off ramp and you are gone i mean did they have significantly less crime like well i mean there were less laws right so they were probably less criminals i mean every day there's a new law you're like i'm going to jail for what now right yeah well if they start making laws about this stuff like what what you can and can't own, that's when people are going to wake up. Yeah. Have you ever looked into Klaus Schwab's dad? No. Have you ever heard of New Schwabinland?
Starting point is 00:26:32 New Schwabinland? You've never heard of New Schwabinland? No. Have you ever heard of Operation High Jump? I knew I was going to love this podcast. No. Dude, it's crazy. Operation High Jump.
Starting point is 00:26:44 What does that mean? Okay. So at one point, some people are like, what's going on with Antarctica? Have you heard of this? Where they sent Admiral Byrd up? What's going on in Antarctica? Yeah. So the U.S. government's like, something's going on with Antarctica.
Starting point is 00:26:59 There's some activity up there. We want to find out what's going on. So they send this cat named Admiral Bird up to investigate with a giant fleet. A fleet to go bang, bro. When was this? I think this was in the... When was Eisenhower in? Was it the 50s?
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah, it was right around either around World War II or right after it. And so they sent Avro Bird up to go find out. And according to his journal that they found much later, he basically met with UFOs, Nazi UFOs. What? Yes. Nazi UFOs?
Starting point is 00:27:41 The Nazis. The Nazis had a flying saucer. Had made a deal, basically, working with interdimensional. You've never heard this. No. It's the greatest story ever, bro. It's the greatest story. So the Nazis made a deal with the aliens?
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yes. Holy shit. For technology, and the deal was they were going to work together, okay? I know this sounds crazy. work together okay i know this sounds crazy so basically the aliens go down and and klaus schwab's dad go down and meet with eisenhower's gonna be like we could we could either do it one way or the other way we can do it nice or we can do it the wrong way and that's where they say eisenhower made a deal with these aliens that they could kidnap people and do experiments, but they couldn't just do it anywhere. They had specific places, which were our national forest.
Starting point is 00:28:32 What? Yeah, dude. You've never heard of this. You're making this sound as if this is like a story that is commonplace. Well, for my people it is. Jamie, count me out here. Have you heard this story? You've never heard of this?
Starting point is 00:28:52 You've never heard of Operation High Jump, bro? I feel like I've heard of that, but I haven't, not in this context. This sounds amazing. Please keep going. And this is where the missing 411 come from. The missing information? What missing information? No, the missing 411. from? The missing information? What missing information? No, the missing 411.
Starting point is 00:29:07 What do you mean by that? Which is all these people have mysteriously disappeared in force. Oh, you're not talking about the missing 411-like information? No, no, no. So missing 411 is the number of people that have been abducted? Yeah, and it's all really weird because they all have a lot of similar characteristics. German-born,. German born, like German background, excuse me. Highly intelligent and
Starting point is 00:29:29 I don't know how weird you want to get, bro. I want to get weird. Okay, bro. They think this might be some time traveling Nazi shit, bro. I know you're going to think I'm crazy, but it's true, dude. That's what they believe and they made a deal. Who is these they? These they folk. Who? When you say they believe, who are these they's what they believe. And they made a deal. Who is these they? These they folk? Who?
Starting point is 00:29:47 When you say they believe, who are these they? The conspiracy people. Are they united? No, there's a whole different. There's a lot of warring clans, bro. There's a lot of warring clans, dude. How deep do you want to go? What is interesting is how advanced the engineering of the Germans was. You know, it's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:30:06 When you think about car manufacturers like Audi and Volkswagen, Mercedes, it's all out of BMW. Didn't BMW make engines for Nazi fighter pilots? I think that's what they first started off doing. They all did. But I think that's what BMW first started off doing. They all did. But I think that's what BMW did. Right? Yeah. 100%. And then we were told. And Audi made Hitler
Starting point is 00:30:30 a car. Yeah. Hitler had a race car. That was never part of their marketing plan though. That would have been a crazy campaign. What does it say there? 1939 BMW 801D piston radial aircraft engine and national origin is Germany. So MW801D Piston. Piston Radial Aircraft Engine.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And national origin is Germany. So in that year, they made World War II planes. They made engines for World War II planes. This is wild, man. I mean, IBM was making stuff for these camps, too, dude. It's crazy. Yeah. They had computers? We've talked about that before.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah. Right. What was that? There's a book. What did they do? They were making, it was the precursor to actual computers.
Starting point is 00:31:13 It was like a filing system to keep track of stuff. Yeah, of who was where and what into these camps. Oh, that's right. I'm remembering this. And then, oh yeah, man, it gets super weird.
Starting point is 00:31:23 And so that, but the place called IBM, right? Was it called something else? I think it was IBM Yeah, the book is called IBM and the Holocaust The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany I mean, you ain't fucking around with that title, huh? That title is rough
Starting point is 00:31:37 Yeah If you're IBM, you gotta be like, fuck, did we do that? Did we really do this? The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany And America's most powerful corporation expanded. Interesting. So the area of Antarctica they went to was New Schwabenland. New Schwabenland. Do you think that's why he dresses with the space astronaut?
Starting point is 00:32:00 100%. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. So they're all in contact with the aliens i think well dude i mean it gets in the see a lot of people think this is about power and money what do you think it's about it's spiritual war dude this is these people got all the money and all the power they got more than they could ever want i think they want complete control but But that gets in the spirituality, not just complete control, but lowering your vibration and jacking your luge. Your spirit energy. You think they're doing that consciously,
Starting point is 00:32:32 or do you think they're doing it like they're chasing the economics and along the way it actually becomes a spiritual battle because everything is a spiritual battle? I think it's done purposely. I think they're evil. I think there's low frequency stuff going on and they've made deals with people and things. And that's why things going on. That was very ambiguous, but I understand where you're going with it.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Okay. I mean, if you want me, I just don't want to get too weird too fast, bro. Too fast? I'm like, we just don't want to get too weird too fast, bro. Too fast? I'm like- We just opened up. We're good. I 100% believe this is a spiritual war and that these people are working with dark entities and that's what this is all about.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Let's imagine this. If there was an alien race that came here from another planet and gave just a random group of people technology. Yeah. Gave them an understanding of things and how to do things. How much of a record do you think they would keep of that? Wouldn't that be something that people would want to talk about? Yeah, but that's the beauty of the internet,
Starting point is 00:33:44 that we're now able to do that. We could never do that before. You think that's what the story's about? The story's about they went there and they met with aliens and the aliens gave them information? I mean, Hitler was really into the occult. Yeah, he was. He would send people all over the place. He had a lot of bad ideas.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yeah, he had a lot of bad ideas. But see, the occult has a negative connotation to it. Not everything involved with the occult is negative. What the occult really means is secret. Secret. So there's not as much around. That's what the word means? Yeah, it basically means like it's hidden.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I always associate it with people that believe in silly shit. When someone starts talking about the occult, I'm always like, how do you feel about ghosts you know how do you feel but like when people start talking about like dark magic i'm like for real for real you sure i believe in that there's some energy manipulation but i don't disbelieve yeah i don't disbelieve listen i like i i i don't know what's going on I just kind of read stuff and I'm like how does this fit into the puzzle right how does this fit into the jigsaw of life and you start looking around and you just start going okay man this is interesting that is interesting this
Starting point is 00:34:57 starts to make sense because if you look at from a power and money point of view it doesn't make any sense why would you want everybody to lose their jobs? Why would you want everybody to be staying at home if nobody's making any money? Then you don't make any money. I don't think that's true. I think you just got to keep people at like a constant level of consumerism
Starting point is 00:35:18 and a constant level of work and you'll always make money. But you control the money this way. The way to control people is to control their access to food and goods and control their access to travel so if you could limit their travel if you can tell them that traveling is bad if you can tell them that if they have to travel they have to travel with other people and then if you could change their food and tell them they have to eat bugs you Yeah. You have to eat bugs.
Starting point is 00:35:46 They're literally pushing that you're eating bugs. Right. They're pushing you got to stop eating meat. Are you sure that regenerative farming isn't real? Because the people that run it are saying that they can literally get to a zero carbon state where they're not emitting any extra carbon. They can do that with regenerative farming. I just don't think they can do it for millions of people.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Yeah, that is the problem. That's the problem with regenerative farming to me. It's like the reason why they do factory farming, it's fucking gross and terrific. It is. So many people are eating meat. How are you going to feed that many people? I think that synthetic meat has a real shot. It's not really synthetic.
Starting point is 00:36:28 I don't think that's the right word for it. What is the word for the meat that they're making where they're basically like reproducing steak cells? Like they're making a lab-grown steak but it's actual meat. This is
Starting point is 00:36:43 interesting to me because I'm like if they're doing like if they can figure out what the building blocks for an actual cell are and recreate it perfectly and if they could do that in some sort of a form that that makes it a steak that would that would mean they could probably do that if someone gets their arm blown off that would mean they could probably do that if someone gets their arm blown off. That would mean they could probably do... You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:37:07 That'd be great. That might happen 50 years from now with the same kind of technology. They might create meat. I think now they're just making it like mush, and they put it together with fat, and they just... They're just not very presentable at this point. What does it look like? Cultured meat.
Starting point is 00:37:24 That's what they're calling it. Oh, that's... I love the names they come up with for stuff.. What does it look like? Cultured meat. That's what they're calling it. Oh, I love the names they come up with for stuff. It's such a great sell. Cultured meat. It's been around the world. It's cultured. It's from France. It's a meat produced by in vitro cell cultures of animal cells.
Starting point is 00:37:39 It's a form of cellular agriculture, which such agricultural methods being explored in the context of increased consumer demand for protein. So what does it look like? Let's see what a lab-grown steak looks like. You think it looks delicious? Probably looks like a lab-grown vagina. Shady as shit. That's lab-grown?
Starting point is 00:38:02 Whoa. Oh, you know what that is that's tiger steak that's um what that is is lab grown tiger steak so they've reproduced other animals tissue that looks like a fucking real steak man that does that's lab grown steak is that really lab grown do you think there's not enough food though joe is that do you think that's an issue do you think there's not enough food though joe is that do you think that's an issue right now that there's not enough um i have not done any accounting on how much food there is have you well you know we hear a lot of stories about you know we subsidize farmers not to grow and it's just like if if well you issue. Well, you know why they do that, though? Why? They started doing that because in World War, I think it was World War II.
Starting point is 00:38:49 And the reason why they started doing it is because they wanted to make sure they were never caught without grain and caught without food. Because there was, you know, one of the scariest things about war, particularly in those days, was famine. things about war particularly in in those days was famine like if you were cut off to supply of food and food couldn't come in i mean obviously there's everything about war is horrible everything about it but famine is kind of crazy and i think they were trying to uh avoid that by supplying you know making sure there was a surplus. And so they made some deals with farmers. Make sure this is an accurate interpretation. I'm pretty sure that's exactly how it was, though.
Starting point is 00:39:34 So that's why they started subsidizing farmers. To save the soil? Well, because we were at war. And then they just kept doing it. Now, I don't know how much has changed. I really don't know much about subsidies and how they work but I do know that you know we make a shit load of corn that most of it is used for animal food the US government created farm subsidies during the Great Depression to offset the surplus of crops and low
Starting point is 00:39:59 prices of both crops and livestock okay though the Great Depression ended nearly a century ago, subsidized farming persists. Today, farmers make up less than 1% of the U.S. population. Hmm. So what was the food subsidies that took place during World War II? Was that World War I? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:19 So was that when the Great Depression was? It was in between them. Okay. So maybe that's what I fucked up, the year of it. So that's essentially, they had to do it because we needed food. We needed to make sure you didn't fucking starve. Back then, people had to get together and work to help. They would make things for the war effort.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Like, they would make things for the war effort. Like, you're supposed to donate tires, and people would, like, donate, like, pots and pans and metals and shit, and they would melt them down and make bullets out of them. Like, it was a crazy united time in a way that I don't think we really understand today. It was a crazy time. Everybody came together, and I just wonder if we could ever do that now, today. I feel like people are starting to wake up. Maybe. And coming together a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:41:10 But the point is, that's the subsidy of fun. That's where it started. It started for a good reason. It started because they were really trying to feed people, and they were in the middle of a war. Right. But for me, and it's also that they said that it was also about controlling the price of product, right? That's right, for sure. Definitely, too. Because if you flood the market, right, it's just everyone's buying it for pennies on the dollar. They can get it everywhere, which is fine. I'm totally great.
Starting point is 00:41:40 But I'm very nervous about what's happening with these farmers right now. Yeah, it is strange, right? It's strange what they're doing in, is it the Netherlands? Netherlands, Canada? The Netherlands where they're having these, they're blocking streets and lighting things on fire. Because they're proposing these new things to farmers that's basically going to put farmers out of business. In terms of like how much methane you can produce. They can produce, right?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Which is how many cows they can own. Yeah, basically. Yeah. I think there is some feed that you can use that reduces the amount of methane a cow produces. But I mean, how are they doing that? And do we really think it's cows farting that's the problem, right? It is a problem. Really is a problem.
Starting point is 00:42:27 But is it anything like what's going on in these giant cities that we live in? Well, you would think it wouldn't be until you realize how big some of these farms are and how many cows they have. And that's how they feed millions and millions and millions of people. Most people are removed from the fucking horrific reality of meat farming and dairy farming. But the reality is, like, there's a lot of those fucking animals. There's a lot of them. And they're all farting.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And it's really burping. Burping's the real problem. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Burping is the big problem more than farting. You know, but the people that are the fans of regenerative agriculture I'd love for them to sit down with someone who is like an economic realist who could tell us like can you do this?
Starting point is 00:43:14 Everywhere can you have animals just run free and shit? And then you have the chickens around and you have the pigs run and they do everything they want to do and the whole and you have the pigs run, and they do everything they want to do, and the whole soil stays healthy from the manure and the way they eat it and everything, the way they eat the greens, or are you bullshitting me? Like, is the only way to make McDonald's burgers for a billion people, is the only way to stuff these animals into these fucking cages and do that horrific shit that we see in those videos? Yes. That's the question.
Starting point is 00:43:45 It is a hard question too because there are so many people. So this is where I get excited about lab grown meat. I think the best possible solution is those two things, regenerative agriculture, but you only can produce a certain amount. Because realistically, it seems like you would not be able to produce as much. You wouldn't have as much land. I mean, if you're just going to have cows everywhere, are we going to just have cows everywhere? It's like India. It's like fucking up traffic.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Can you imagine if we realized we have two choices? Factory farming or cows everywhere. Just roaming, dude. It's the only way we can keep up with all the steakhouses and all the Five Guys burgers. Just have fucking cows everywhere. Can't touch them on the street. That's going to feed a family. Let them enjoy his life.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Dude, that might be the solution. Just roaming. So it's one of feed a family. Let him enjoy his life. Dude, that might be the solution. Just keep it a while. So it's one of those two things. It's either factory-grown meat, lab-grown meat, cultured meat, or regenerative agriculture. What is the new one that they're putting out? Near meat or almost meat or something meat? I think McDonald's just bailed on their Beyond Burger thing. Yeah, that's it, Beyond Meat, right?
Starting point is 00:45:07 And then it had like insane amount of... Seed oils. Yeah, like... It's not good for you. Yeah, not good for you. You want to eat vegetarian. There's plenty of really healthy things you can eat. If you want to eat vegetarian,
Starting point is 00:45:18 you should eat real vegetarian food, not some fake fucking meat thing. If you want to be a vegetarian and eat Indian food, it's delicious. There is a place, I mean, to be a vegetarian I eat Indian food. It's delicious There was a place. I mean there's a lot of delicious vegetarian food But there's a place near my house in back in LA and it was this a total Indian joint like everybody spoke Hindi Is that is yeah, I'm cool. That's it they spoke
Starting point is 00:45:42 In their native language and everything was in, you know, their native language and it was all vegetarian. It was this crazy authentic place. I love that restaurants do that too. Like you go into a certain ethnic restaurant, you want to see those people working there. If it's a bunch of hipsters, you're like, oh, this is gonna suck. Right. But you go in there and it's authentic, bro.
Starting point is 00:46:02 You're good to go. It was literally like you were transported to a small shop in India. That's what it's like. And the food's legit. That's my point. It's like, eat real food. Don't be eating that nonsense. Unless you like it.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I don't give a fuck. Yeah, man. I mean, I've lost some weight. I'm not going to lie. I'm happy fat, but I'm also happy in shape, too. How'd you lose weight? I'm not going to lie. I'm happy fat, but I'm also happy in shape too. So it's like. How'd you lose weight? I did intermediate fasting.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Intermediate? Or whatever it's called. What's it called? Intermittent. Yeah, that too. Yeah. Yeah, I've done that. Yeah, I did that.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I'm good for 48. 72, I'm ready to go on a killing spree. You do 48 hour fasts? Yeah. Oh, wow. That's a long time. Yeah. I was doing 22s mostly, but then I got it to go on a killing spree. You do 48-hour fasts? Yeah. Oh, wow. That's a long time. Yeah. I was doing 22s mostly, but then I got to 48.
Starting point is 00:46:52 And I liked it, man. I was losing weight, but, man, I was getting like... I think we eat entirely too much food. I mean, it's pretty evident when you look at the population. And when I say we, I definitely include me. I eat too much food. I like it. I'm a glutton. But if you look at the rest of the population, most people don't eat like us.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Well, they stretch us really thin. We're working more than we ever have. So sometimes we got to stop. And the only thing open is that yellow arch. And you're like, oh, man, I haven't ate that in a month. And then you eat it. It's like, go fuck yourself. Now you're McDonald's and you're like, oh, man, I haven't ate that in a month. And then you eat it, and your body's like, go fuck yourself. Now you're McDonald's, and you eat out of nowhere, and your body's like.
Starting point is 00:47:29 You just ate a preservative bomb. You know what's the most amazing thing? They take those burgers, and they put them on a shelf, and they never rot. It's great. You're like, this is not good for anybody. Let's find out how much of that's true. I know there's photographs of Big Macs that are on shelves that are just sitting there forever. Or you look at like something you're drinking, you're like good for like 10, 15 years.
Starting point is 00:47:53 You're like, this ain't healthy. Not healthy. Not healthy at all. Like, I try to eat good, man, but I also like to eat like shit. I like to have occasional. Of course. Right? Everybody does.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Oh, man. There's like an extra thing to eating like shit because you know you're giving your body a little treat. I go to McDonald's, get that vanilla ice cream, and every time I show up, there's like a race ride about to break out right there. It's like some giant black trans about to fight cholos on the other side of the fucking...
Starting point is 00:48:21 Every time I go to this one. Which one are you going to? It's on La Brea near Santa Monica. So look at this. Scroll back up so I can read the thing. It said, found McDonald's cheeseburger. Looks exactly the same after five years. I wonder if it's edible.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Can you imagine if someone just fucking ate that thing? Five years. He had to eat it. He had to eat it. He had to try it. Look at this. She vowed to Megan Condry has vowed to ditch fast food altogether after she found the burger still looks exactly the same as the day she bought it back in 2017. Megan from Washington, D.C. decided to conduct the experiment after noticing a forgotten burger in the back of her car had not started to rot after five days.
Starting point is 00:49:11 She said, it was untouched until around three weeks ago. I was in the closet sorting out my Christmas stuff, and I knocked the bag, and the burger rolled out. I'd forgotten about it. It was rock-hard as hard as a hockey puck I could probably smash a window with it it's completely dry and it could start to crumble she sounds like an alcoholic that hides bottles all over the place it's like hiding fast food so no one knows she's eating it yeah that's crazy's crazy. I mean, dude, you know it's not healthy when it's turning burn that quickly.
Starting point is 00:49:47 But sometimes you just got to, you know, people are spread thin, dude. Yeah. They got to eat, dude. And it's like. Oh, dude, I get it. No, I'm not an anti-fast food person. I mean, I'm a person that says, like, just don't eat it all the time. Don't make that your whole diet.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Anything too much, right? Anything. but that kind of stuff in specific it's like when you get in a habit of having like chocolate shakes and and burgers and fries and you know those fucking buns and all the sauces and everything you get in a habit of that and then you're just giving your body too much to get rid of you're you know it's that's not nutrients yeah're just giving your body too much to get rid of your you know it's that's not nutrients yeah you're giving your body like this just rush of sugar and there's a lot of protein and fats in there too so like by itself like what I like to do is go to In-N-Out and get those how do they do it what is it called fine Dutchman so they call it I don't know man I think they
Starting point is 00:50:43 know the flying best do the shit but the Flying Dutchman is Is that what they call it? I don't know, man. I think they call it the Flying Dutchman. They're the shit. But the Flying Dutchman is like they take a cheeseburger patty and they put a piece of cheese on it and that's it. Is that animal style? No. Animal style is when they pile a bunch of crazy shit on it. Oh, really? See, that's the Flying Dutchman. That's the Flying Dutchman with onions.
Starting point is 00:51:00 So no lettuce, no nothing, just the meat and the cheese. So that's like the least guilt-free shit for me. Because I'm just getting ground beef, nothing cheese. It's pretty fucking good. That's why the line is around the block every time. Exactly. Look at that. It's a flying Dutchman on french fries.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Animals. Look at these fucking sandwiches. Yeah, I mean. Going hard. Dude, Carl's Jr. one time was just, whatever they could shove on a burger was their new burger. It was like lettuce, tomato, a bike, an elephant. It just was like, it was just so ridiculous. And it's like, that's the most unhealthy shit I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 00:51:38 But it looked good and tastes good. I'm sure. The In-N-Out thing is like, what they've done is said, look, it's going to take longer because we're going to cook it right now, but it's going to be better. So you have to wait. And everybody's like, let's do it. Yeah. Whereas everywhere else, like you want it right now, which is so crazy that they already
Starting point is 00:51:58 have a cheeseburger ready for you. Before you're even done ordering it, they're handing you your order. It takes time to make a fucking cheeseburger. The fact that you can get it so fast. And I eat like, dude, I have the metabolism of a dead person. Like, I once gained weight driving. I felt my pants getting tighter, so I had to take off my belt as I was driving to a gig. You were eating in the car?
Starting point is 00:52:22 Oh, yeah, and I could just feel like I had to undo my pants just so I could breathe. Dude, that's fast, dude. Dude, yeah. So I have really bad, my metabolism is super slow. So I can gain weight doing nothing. Has the intermittent fasting helped that? Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:44 So I had a show called Wild World of Spike on Spike TV. I remember that. I was doing like stunts. I didn't even know what the show was about when I got it because I just wanted to be on TV. Who was on that with you? Me and Jason Ellis and Kit Cope. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:52:59 That's right. Ellis is doing stand-up right now. He's so funny, dude, because he's lived such a crazy life. It's like fun watching someone starting to learn stand-up. And you kind of give them a couple tips here and there to lead them in their way. So we were doing a show, and I discovered what a hematoma was. I didn't know what that was before. And then I would get these stunts and these giant hematomas on my leg.
Starting point is 00:53:21 And I just gained this layer of perma fat that I never lost like I I probably started to show around 175 and I ballooned up to like almost 200 maybe and I kept it forever and then doing this this fasting like helped me finally shed a lot of that that fat that I have forever that I could never get rid of you You must feel much better too, right? I love it, dude. But sobriety and eating better, it's 180, dude. Nice.
Starting point is 00:53:51 I wake up every morning and I'm like, oh man, I feel so much better. Do you have any vices now? I have all the vices, bro. But I mean in terms of cigarettes, alcohol, no alcohol, right? No alcohol, no drugs. No marijuana.
Starting point is 00:54:05 No marijuana. No marijuana. You know, I always question, like, at some point, will I ever be able to do shrooms again? Because shrooms kind of changed my life. What do you think? Maybe. I mean, I'm just being honest with you. But right now, I just enjoy being sober.
Starting point is 00:54:21 But, you know, the whole story about Bill W. at that one point, where, like, he'd done acid and yeah he wanted everybody yeah like to do the 12 steps and then trip balls and that was going to be the experience the spiritual experience and then he almost got ran out so they're like okay no uh but i'm interesting because boy what a much better organization it would have been it would be interesting save my life if you if you could do that if you could do like the whole spiritual journey and then like work yourself into a place where you're capable of doing the psychedelic experience yeah i just don't know if some people can do that the problem is it's whenever you got something like that here's
Starting point is 00:55:01 a problem it gets culty what If you're giving people psychedelics. Yeah. You know? It's already culty if you're giving them a guideline to live their life. Right, right. Because it's very hard for a person to tell you how to live your life because it's very hard for a person to live their life. It's very hard for people to get it together. So if you're giving advice, like how good do you have it together? Right, right
Starting point is 00:55:25 You're telling me that I have to believe in a higher power and I have to do this and I have to do that and this Is the way like are you sure or is that the way for you? You know like maybe it is the way but it could get culty and I'm not saying Alcoholics Anonymous is culty I'm saying any kind of organization that starts to tell you What you're supposed to be doing and how to do it it could get culty, I'm saying any kind of organization that starts to tell you what you're supposed to be doing and how to do it, it could get culty. I think anything could get culty, right? Then you add psychedelics. Yeah, then you get weird.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Then you could really get culty. If you had movie trivia night and you had psychedelics, it could get culty, right? Well, I think most of those early cultures that got together like these fucking circles of wisdom and shit these motherfuckers That's what I'm into dude. If you ever there's a guy Brian Murrow rescue He was on my podcast and he's got an amazing book and it's it's all about How the ancient Greeks and the ancient Romans were tripping? Greeks and the ancient Romans were tripping. It's called the immortality key. It's an amazing book. And it's actually opened up a field of study at Harvard. Now they're studying this, this part of the history of the ancient Greeks because they found these wine vessels. And when they do a
Starting point is 00:56:40 sample test on the wine vessels, they found ergot and ergot is a type of psychedelic it's like a it's it mimics like lsd it's got lsd like properties it's something like lysergic acid or it's related to lysergic acid so they definitely had at least that in their stuff and they found some other stuff too i think they might have found psilocybin too but that was what their wine was their wine wasn't just wine it wasn't just this is one of the things that he went into depth about like when we think of wine like wine that we have today like you get a nice cabernet oh delicious oh i like it with a steak their wine had shit in it they were pouring like fucking they were pouring weed in there they were roofing each other psychedelic mushrooms and shit and fucking ergot you know they think that ergot was responsible
Starting point is 00:57:33 for the salem rich the witch trials oh there's a whole bunch to get into that like schizophrenia what is that and like people hearing voices like i mean you read all these holy texts everybody heard voices back in the day and like how we treat those people it might not be the proper way not saying you know they're there they're any kind of like shaman or anything but there might be some stuff to that you know I hear I've heard voices like when I did you ever hear voices that had good advice yeah but when you do shrooms that's different like when you do shrooms. You ever heard any voices that had good advice? Yeah, but when you do shrooms, that's different. That's different. Like when you do shrooms, it's like you're taking on an entity, you know? That's interesting, man. I think, so when you get into like what is alcohol?
Starting point is 00:58:13 Spirits, right? It's like there's something to that. The thing I was telling you, though, about the Salem witch trials, we could look this up and make sure it's true, but I'm pretty sure it is. What they did was they did a core sample. You know where they dig into the earth and they find, and through the core sample, I I'm pretty sure it is. What they did was they did a core sample. You know, they dig into the earth and they find, and through the core sample, I don't know how they make the calculation exactly, but they know where the years were as they go down. And when they get to the years of the Salem witch trial, it turns out there's a late frost. And when late frost happens, sometimes plants die and sometimes they get fungus and fungus grows on them.
Starting point is 00:58:46 That fungus is called ergot and so they found evidence of this stuff. In 1976, Linda Corporal offered the first evidence that Salem witch trials followed an outbreak of rye ergot. Ergot is a fungus blight that forms hallucinogenic drugs in bread. Its victims can appear bewitched when they're actually stoned ergot thieves Oh thrives excuse me ergot thrives in a cold winter followed by a wet spring so they found evidence of that so if they had evidence that at least accidentally they were tripping balls because they were eating the bread was right so important to them like you know that was a big part of how they stayed alive they were probably all tripping balls because they were eating the bread was like so important to them like you
Starting point is 00:59:25 know that was a big part of how they stayed alive they were probably all tripping their fucking balls oh yeah 100 what about the guy whose job it was to go around to determine whether somebody is a witch or not look at this according to this theory the abrupt end of the witch trials in May 1693 happened quite simply because Salem ran out of ergo-contaminated grain. Wow. So the witch is over. That is great. No more witches because we're not tripping balls anymore. Oh my God, I never knew that.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Isn't that nuts? That is crazy. Everybody's on shrooms. They're like, witch! Yeah, you imagine you really would think you were bewitched. Like, why am I thinking like this? Why do I feel this way? Oh my God, I'm under a spell.
Starting point is 01:00:07 And if you believed in spells, and fuck in the 1600s, they believed in spells. 100%. 100%. You know? That's crazy. How nuts. I did shrooms at the K-Rock Acoustic Christmas about like... Basically the same thing.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah. And I heard a voice, and it's the last time I ever worried about my life. Really? It said, you're exactly where you need to be. I heard it thing. Yeah. And I heard a voice and it's the last time I ever worried about my life. Really? It said, you're exactly where you need to be. I heard it loud. Wow. And I never worried. And then I just went and watched Prophets of Rage just annihilate, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Annihilate. And it was like, and my life has always been kind of on this nice path since then. But yeah, shrooms were a big part of my recovery. since then but yeah shrooms were a big part of my my recovery and just like all the stuff having the kids and then this this this covid thing forced me to like reevaluate a lot of and i'm on kind of the spiritual path right now which is like i really love it i really it's a much better way of looking at the world so you've made it's not like've made like big leaps like big changes in the way you think about things yeah man there's this video going around about me
Starting point is 01:01:10 and Ari Shaffir yelling at each other on my past punch drunk videos you know of us doing it and I watch and it's super cringy right I watch I go but now I understand a lot of stuff like how my energy was back in the day and how people received it.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And I get it. I get it. Was this the running and gunning days? This was running and gunning one, not running and gunning two. This was the earlier days when it was just like blowing stuff like that. And let me say one thing about you. You always, even if you're on coke, you're always a cool guy to hang out with. Thank you, Joe.
Starting point is 01:01:43 It means a lot to me. You always were. You're not one of those guys who does coke and then becomes unmanageable. Well, you know what's interesting, Joe? So I saw you recently at Christina's party, right? Yeah. And the truth of the matter is that I was talking about this on my Broken Simulation podcast. I drove around that place like 30 times because i have like really bad social
Starting point is 01:02:07 anxiety and i was just like i was like gotta go in gotta go in and then i was like defensive farting the whole time right so just just just farting turning just blowing up my car just nerve farts nerve farts really bad and then he finally went in i was like okay i'm okay but i have like really bad so like that's a big part of like why i was doing drugs too like to be able to like be calm into my to be into my like skin and being able to talk to people and like i wasn't a good drinker i I never really liked drinking, but Coke was just, like, every time I did blow, I felt like I was, like, Motley Crue in the Girls, Girls, Girls video, right? Just walking through, pointing the chicks, getting weird, dude, like, fucking. You felt like the man.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah, I felt like the man. And then it just, it worked until it didn't work anymore. And then, you know, just I had a couple things happen and I fell back. And then just like, you know, I had two girls and I said I had to change myself. I'm somebody's dad, which is like the weirdest thing ever for me. Like I'll be with them at the park and I'll look at them. I go, I'm this person's dad, dude. It's wild.
Starting point is 01:03:25 It's like I'm going to teach them their moral compass and all that stuff. And it's just a weird feeling. And it's the best feeling I've ever had in my life. But I sometimes have this out-of-body experience that I'm this person's dad. It's so weird to me. But I love it. And it's just I didn't want to embarrass them. So I decided I'm going to clean up my act and go on this spiritual journey.
Starting point is 01:03:51 And it's been a really great time. It's like life is so much easier now. So then it was before, and it's just— You feel like there's less resistance the way you live your life now, right? Yeah. That's one of the problems with people. They get stuck in patterns. You've always behaved a certain way or thought a certain way, so you get stuck in that pattern.
Starting point is 01:04:09 You always live your life doing blow and getting crazy. You get stuck. And so then to create a new pattern, it requires a lot of effort. It's a big switch. I always wanted to set a high score in a game that nobody else was playing. Right? I just wanted to have these rock and roll stories that I thought were so important. And then I look back, like, nobody cares.
Starting point is 01:04:33 It's almost to the point of embarrassment. Like all this stuff I used to do, all this chaos I used to get involved in. But at the time, I thought it was super important. And then I realized it wasn't. And I was just like. That's beautiful, man. That's beautiful for you that you figured that out, that you made that adjustment. The store and all the stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:54 So I really enjoy the store. It's one of my favorite places to go. I miss the time when you were all there. It's like I'm the last of one of the Mohegans in terms of the whole death squad crew and all that. I miss that. But I also used to love the dead period too when we would all go there and there would be like 30 people in the crowd
Starting point is 01:05:14 and you could go up there and bomb indignity and just work on your shit, dude. It changed. It has changed. It changed when we came back in 2014. It stopped being... It changed while I was gone too. Because when I came back, they had already started doing Roast Battle. And I remember watching Roast Battle thinking like, whoa, like this is so creative and it's so important.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Because it was such a joke writing show. Like you had to write jokes to fuck with each other. And the way Moses does it, because he's such a nice guy show. You had to write jokes to fuck with each other. And the way Moses does it, because he's such a nice guy, he makes them all hug. He makes everybody hug at the end. It's nice. You're insulting each other, and he's a great host too.
Starting point is 01:05:56 That's me and Brian Callen's show. Brian Callen and mine's show is we just lay into each other, and then at the end we hug before we go. But when I came back and I saw that that was happening at the store, I was like, oh, this is very interesting.
Starting point is 01:06:11 This is very interesting. I'm like, this is a whole different thing. And Kill Tony, too. They were doing Kill Tony and they were doing it in the belly room. And I remember going in there going, man, this is really interesting. Like, this is a crazy show.
Starting point is 01:06:25 You're giving these people one minute, they do stand-up, and and then you got Hinchcliffe who's like the best roaster ever yeah fucking super fast he's the fastest dude he's the the best host of one of those shows I've ever seen I took him on his first uh road gig did you really yeah it's the funniest story ever dude so I'm like hey man you want to do a gig with me? I forget where it was. It was like Fresno or something like that. So, you know, it's starting off bad. And it was for a 7-Eleven Christmas party, right?
Starting point is 01:06:59 So I bring him up and I would do this thing called pre-show, post-show. Like how you think you're going to do and then a reaction to how you actually go. Right. And it was his first time ever. And it was so fun to watch him like try to figure it out in front of this all 7-Eleven Indian crowd. It was so funny. And yeah, it was his first road gig. And from there he just kind of went boom.
Starting point is 01:07:26 And he's been crushing it ever since. Yeah, he's killing it. We just did a gig in Dallas. How was it? It was awesome. Dallas is a great town. It's a great town. I love Dallas.
Starting point is 01:07:37 It's a fun town. I love Dallas. I love Houston. They got futuristic black chicks that I love. There's something about these big Texas cities. They're just extra fun. And you remember back in the day when you would do stand-up, you'd go to some of the bluer states.
Starting point is 01:07:51 It was very interesting. The crowds in L.A. now are tricky, I would say. They're tricky. You've got to learn how to present to them. So I just did a Jimmy Dore show. He asked me to do stand-up in this tiny theater he does in the Valley. They're the best crowds. You can just tee off, right? And then I'm like, okay,
Starting point is 01:08:10 gotta go do stand up in Hollywood and now I'm gonna have to figure out what this crowd can handle and what they can't handle. It was never like that before. Back in the old days, you would just sling dick in comedy dick in LA and then you'd have to go on the road
Starting point is 01:08:26 and kind of like dumb it down a little bit it's kind of flipped now and it's like in la you gotta like can't say this can't say that can't say that because they're gonna shut down right on you on the road you can just t off like red states like used to be super conservative right they were like when do you think that shift happened at the store? How long ago have you been feeling this way? Since everybody started coming back from COVID. It's like a year, two years? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:55 It's not the store. The store is great. It's crowds in LA, whether you're at the Improv or wherever. It's like they're... Everywhere. Everywhere. They're way more sensitive like sarcasm is violent you know right well you know they're not like that here at all i know that's why i like to
Starting point is 01:09:15 do the road like red but the thing this is not a red city this is a blue city this the whole thing is not like a red blue thing it's a like people lost their fucking marbles versus people kind of went back to living their life and trying to just deal with the fact that it's a disease and hopefully you don't get it. And if you get it, get treatment. Oh, it's not about the science. In California, it became a cult. It's not about science. When the conspiracy theorists have been saying the same thing now that they said at the beginning, it's not about science.
Starting point is 01:09:47 And like mass, they try to bring that back. They're like, we might bring it back in Long Beach, Beverly Hills, and who else was it? Pasadena. We're like, nope, we're not doing mass. And they're like, yeah, you know what? The numbers aren't high enough. We're not going to bring back the mass like no dude everybody says the emperor's
Starting point is 01:10:07 got no clothes on that's what happened right there bro Biden survived it can we end this I mean Jesus Christ I got a crazy story for you crazier than the Nazis meeting with the aliens no it's right there though okay so I do have this podcast called Broken Simulation and I was interviewing a friend of mine crazier than the Nazis meeting with the aliens? No, it's right there, though. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:28 So I do have this podcast called Broken Simulation, and I was interviewing a friend of mine named Jeff Hilliard. And Jeff, it's going to drop this week. And he used to be a sober companion. What's that mean? Okay, that means, like, when people are newly sober, either, like, someone who loves them will send you in to, like, knock the pipe out of your hand or like just to make sure you don't use and abuse or do anything like that.
Starting point is 01:10:48 So someone who goes with you so you don't fuck up. Or if you're newly sober and you just want somebody there in case you start getting like a little froggy, you know, they stop you from doing stuff. Got it. So he was a sober companion he used to go to all these hotels and um he one of his clients at the time was a high-end escort and this was like during the election and he was having a conversation with her and she was like one of my one of my people that I party with is Hunter Biden, right? And he told her before the election, this is what Jeff says on my show,
Starting point is 01:11:31 that they're going to get his dad in by the slimmest of margins, and then they're going to figure out a reason to get him out, and they're going to put in camel toe hairs. And that's who they're going to fuck in. They're not going to do that. Did you see that video the other day where she announced her pronouns and said she was wearing a blue suit? They're not going to have her be the president. Well, I think she's so bad.
Starting point is 01:11:53 They've got to be. But that seems to be. Maybe they thought that way back in the whiz-in. But I think now, after they've seen how she gets reviewed by the public she would be like the most unpopular president by far She'd be more unpopular than Dan quail more unpopular than any any of the presidents that we make fun of vice presidents rather But she is uh she's don't you think yeah, I can't imagine that they would do that
Starting point is 01:12:22 Can you imagine they would do that? Well, I mean, I'm surprised by it. I mean, I can't really get surprised by anything they do right at this point. I think they would try to put somebody else in to replace him. They'd probably, I mean, if he makes it to the four-year mark, do you think he's going to make it to the four-year mark? Not according to this hooker. Well, here's the thing about hookers. They're always right.
Starting point is 01:12:46 They make good choices. They're psychic always right. They make good choices. They make good life choices. So they're definitely not mentally ill. It doesn't. And definitely not on drugs. And definitely don't lie. So I don't know what to tell you. She, I think they would, you already see the rumblings that nobody wants them to run again.
Starting point is 01:13:07 So I think it's going to be super interesting. But who else could they run? I mean, are they going to run Gavin Newsom? Do you think they're going to keep Kamala Harris? Do you think they're going to have two totally new people? Because if he doesn't run, if he's gone, she doesn't become the vice president, right? No. Or she doesn't become the president.
Starting point is 01:13:23 No. I mean, if he steps down, yeah, she- Like right before. If he steps down right before, then she might be the president for a couple of days. Well, if she's in there for three days, she just starts passing all the grades. China's just going to start launching at us. Yeah, man. So she becomes a candidate again.
Starting point is 01:13:40 It's not like they would definitely run her. If he steps down in 2024 and and they have a real you know obviously it's going to be another election somebody has to run with her i mean if he if he can't do it she steps in right or maybe she gets a lucrative offer to do something else from only fans or something no from fucking from fucking, from Klaus Schwab. Wants you to work at the World Economic Forum. Oh, yeah. He's pan-trading everybody. Describe the future of transportation.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Who knows, man? Who knows what all these pieces that are getting moved around are for, but it's interesting to see them try to figure out who's going to run. And then seeing that Trump is probably going to run, they're trying to put Trump in jail. They're trying to figure out what shit they can arrest him for and indict him on. It's wild, dude. And then Hillary Clinton, who just can't read a room,
Starting point is 01:14:35 is like, I think I might run again. That's hilarious. Right? She obviously doesn't read any of her social media or anything like that. Well, she can't. Yeah. I mean, that would be devastating. I was talking to young Jamie about that.
Starting point is 01:14:53 What do you think about the Clinton body count? Oh, dude, it's real, bro. What do you think about that most recent guy? Oh, I mean, like. This one's a wild one, folks. If you don't know, this is a guy who let Epstein into the White House seven times. They found him hanging from a tree 30 miles from his house from an extension cord with a shotgun wound to the chest. And they're calling that a suicide.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Are you sure? Yeah, dude. Like, wait a minute, wait a minute. What did this guy do for a living? Yeah. Hold on a second. Who did he know? Who did he let in?
Starting point is 01:15:29 Where? What happened? Isn't the most dangerous job in the world is a Clinton bodyguard? Or Clinton business associate. Yeah, right? It's like 90% clipping or something like that. But listen, we don't know whether or not the Clintons have killed people, but we do know for sure that people have assassinated their rivals.
Starting point is 01:15:51 That's been a thing throughout history. Well, her dad, like, didn't he, her dad at one point was in charge of, like, the Chicago mob? What? Yeah, when they took out Al Capone he stepped in well that would make sense right and then you look at like you want some real theater dude is that real though let's find out if that's real before let's look we go any further because that sounds so bananas like she's um either way she's she's extremely fortunate That her rivals
Starting point is 01:16:27 And people who know things about her Yeah people who know something It's like what the fuck man One of the craziest ones I ever read about Was a guy who shot himself in the head twice He was like an Enron whistleblower And he pulled over to the side of the road And he shot himself in the head twice
Starting point is 01:16:43 Well isn't that Gary Webb too Who came out about the whole crack road and he shot himself in the head twice. Well, isn't that Gary Webb, too, who came out about the whole crack epidemic? Did he shoot himself in the head twice, too? I found an article that says this, but it says according to someone, and I don't know who this is. Sam Tripoli? It says according to Larry Nichols, and it says Larry Nichols was a former trusted advisor to Bill and Hillary, but I don't know. It's just an article on a website. Okay. It's just an article on a website.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Yeah, it's a blog. It's his best balls. I don't know what it is, but I found a link from a tweet. It's pretty presentable. It's very presentable. It seems to prefer. I might have made this, though. So it might not be true.
Starting point is 01:17:22 So what it says, Hugh Rodman is Hillary Clinton's father. He's pictured above daughter. Hillary is sitting holding the doll. Okay, what does that mean? Nickel, okay. After Al Capone, Hugh Rodman, and Dan Rostenkowski took over and ran the Chicago mob, according to Larry Nichols. Well, who's this Larry Nichols fellow? Nichols is a former trusted advisor to Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Nichols helped run Bill's political campaigns while Bill was president and governor of Arkansas. Nichols called Matt Drudge to break the story of President Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. Whenever I hear Drudge, I hear, like, I think Drudge Report, and I think, is that true? Yeah, that's him. But, yeah, no, for sure, I know. But whenever I hear Drudge I hear like I think drudge report and I think yeah that's true that's him is it but but yeah no for sure I know I know but whatever I hear drudge report I'm like okay is that slanted like judge drudge
Starting point is 01:18:12 report is like a heavily right-leaning website right isn't it is it still I thought it's like one of those things where Mike gone the other way might have went left yeah no but I could have sworn like they were very... Yeah. Like anti-Trump. Are you sure? Drudge report. Oh. Okay. So this is whether or not it's legit. No, it's the bias. Media bias
Starting point is 01:18:36 check. So it says mixed. Could be a little bit of both. This is also back in the 90s. I don't know if it's changed. Oh, but look how it says this. So it's right of center. It's not extreme right. Right of center. In terms of factual reporting, it's mixed.
Starting point is 01:18:52 It's like in between mostly factual and low. So it might be a little. So these media sources are slightly moderate, conservative, and biased. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words. Okay. So that's why. But you know, it's an, is it interesting, like you're always, uh, you're programmed to like, when you see something's on one network, another, oh, what is this bullshit? To dismiss it, right? I've seen a Vox article. Oh, you know, and it's like, it's, it's a natural inclination that people have to resist people they think might be ideologically driven.
Starting point is 01:19:29 And that just means the information isn't real. Right. Or it might be biased or it might be funky. It's hard. You know, I know you're into the UFO thing. And the UFO thing is one of the ones. I got Jeremy Corbell coming on soon. And the UFO thing is one of the ones, I got Jeremy Corbell coming on soon, and the UFO thing is one of the ones
Starting point is 01:19:46 that I keep going back and forth on. Like sometimes I think we are being visited by other galaxies or other creatures from some other world, and other times I'm going, why would they tell us? Why would the Pentagon be telling us that these are crafts not made from this world? Why would they tell us? They wouldn't tell us. I don't think they would tell us jack shit. So if they are telling us, I think it not made from this world. Why would they tell us? They wouldn't tell us.
Starting point is 01:20:06 I don't think they would tell us jack shit. So if they are telling us, I think it's a smokescreen. I think anytime you see like a sauce or anything, I think that's man-made. Do you think they're from China or Russia or the United States? All of them. All of them. Yeah. I think if there are entities, they're interdimensional and that they don't come here in a...
Starting point is 01:20:28 You don't think they come here in a metal craft? No, I think they walk through some portals or something. And they're in your mind. I think that's what's happening when you're eating mushrooms. Yeah, I mean... I think you're contacting other things. Like the feeling that you have when you're in a high dose of the psychedelic, like a DMT type trip, the feeling that you have of going to another place it's like unmistakable right it feels like you're in another place that might be
Starting point is 01:20:51 like a place that's a real place but you can only access it chemically like our idea that you have to access things physically for it to be real you know like you have to open up a door to get in a room that's true but why do we think that way We only think that way because that's how we move around the earth. But if you think about it, just experience itself. The kind of experience that you get on a high-dose psychedelic, whatever the fuck that is, whatever is happening, it's an hallucination. Okay, whatever it is, it's real. I agree. While it's happening, that is real as fuck. There's nothing more real
Starting point is 01:21:26 It's not like you can end it anytime you win. Can't just stop it. Yeah, right just hop off the ride No, whatever the fuck that is is as real as anything you ever encounter in life Maybe real err because you have no control you have zero control and it's one of the most terrifying things about it People are scared you're giving your consciousness up to the psychedelic. I feel like you're in another place when you're doing that, man. And if that is another place that can only be accessed chemically, maybe we should think about it that way. Don't think about it like it's not really there because I'm still here. Yeah, but that's just like tissue and bone.
Starting point is 01:22:03 And what about your mind? What about whatever the fuck it is that is you inside your head your thoughts? They're not there They're going to this fucking other dimension and they're seeing Pharaoh's floating in gold chariot hundred percent Buddha's and aliens and Joker's and They're seeing all kinds of wild shit Tin elves and shit and they're and everything is changing they're seeing all kinds of wild shit. Tin elves and shit.
Starting point is 01:22:26 And everything is changing constantly around you and moving. And if you play music, it dances to the music. That's the wildest thing about some psychedelics, like particularly DMT. If you play those South American Icaros, those songs that they play when they do the ayahuasca ceremonies, when you do that,
Starting point is 01:22:42 the psychedelic imagery dances to the music. Like it changes and syncs up with the music. Have you done ayahuasca? No, I haven't done ayahuasca. I've only done DMT with those Icaros. I would love to do ayahuasca. I would too, down the line at some point. I just got to make sure I do it with legit people.
Starting point is 01:23:05 You know, it's like one of those things, man. It should be fucking legal. And if it was legal, then you'd know who was legit and where to go and what's good. I think that's why they don't want you to do it. And it is weird, right? I don't think they know. I don't think they know. I don't think any of those people have experienced it.
Starting point is 01:23:21 If they did, they wouldn't make it illegal. They would immediately want to change their tune. Because if you did it, if you did DMT, and then you didn't think that that was the most profound thing that's ever happened to you in your life, other than like the birth of your children, you didn't do enough. Yeah. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. I would love if we just like every politician, once they win an election, they have to have douche room day or do a psychedelic day where they just have to hit it hard, heroic doses, and then go into office. They should have a series of ceremonies. They should probably have a series of them. They should probably do some peyote.
Starting point is 01:24:01 They should probably do some mushrooms. They should probably do some DMT. They should probably do a series of things but the problem is there's not enough people that are doing that there's not like there's not enough people that are looking at their life and saying i want to have like a spiritual journey where i can sort of correct my path and make sure that I'm doing the right thing and I'm true to myself and I'm on like a soulful pathway. And it's because that's not encouraged in our culture. That's all it is. And some people seek it out and those people become, you know, they become different people when they've had those journeys. And I don't think it's for everybody. I used to think it's
Starting point is 01:24:42 for everybody, but I don't think it's for everybody now. I realized that when I thought it was for everybody, I was being foolish. Some people are having a hard time with regular reality. Right. And that shit's maybe not good for them. I would say probably not good for them, but I'm not a doctor. Well, you know, for me, man,
Starting point is 01:24:57 it's just like I think people, there's so much information out there that could help people change their life 180 degrees and they're just, they don't know how to find it no one's pointed out to them yeah and it's also they don't know whether it's legit they don't know who's who's the running it why is it am I gonna go to jail you know there's like weird shit that is a weird thing right with a legal versus illegal like if something's legal they're like oh man I could do it and if it's illegal like oh I would never well that's what's really weird about these ketamine centers legal, they're like, oh, I can do it if it's illegal like oh, I would never well
Starting point is 01:25:25 That's what's really weird about these ketamine centers. You know, they're doing IV ketamine therapy I've never done ketamine But the friends that I have that have done it like Neil Brennan says he was tripping his fucking balls I heard he grabbed me at the Comedy Store's telling me about it. And I was like, what is it like? He's like, dude I'm tripping. I mean I am fucking trip. Oh, he's still true. He was no no no no no He's saying like when he did it like when when he's he's like thought okay I'm gonna do this in a clinical setting who probably like pretty mild. It's like no Because I was fucking tripping balls and those are legal
Starting point is 01:26:00 So you can go and get like if you're depressed depressed, if you've got anxiety, there's a bunch of different reasons why they do it. And they give people ketamine therapy. I don't know what the, what are the, what's the basic, like what's the requirements to get ketamine therapy? What do you have to have wrong with you? It's got to be like an off label thing. It's not like the fucking, your insurance is paying for that. Well, I like anything that helps you explore what you're feeling instead of numbing yourself out to it. And I think that's a big part of what's wrong with a lot of our culture is instead of trying to understand what you're feeling and why you're feeling it,
Starting point is 01:26:39 I think some people want to numb themselves out so they can continue down this path. And I think we're all here on a path. We're all here to learn something. And sometimes the universe likes to tell us, hey, this isn't what your path on it makes you super uncomfortable. And some people are depressed. I think like things like depression, anger, sadness is the universe talking to you about you need to change some stuff up. You're not on the path you want to go. about you need to change some stuff up.
Starting point is 01:27:04 You're not on the path you want to go. Patients with depression, anxiety, PTSD, end-of-life distress, chronic pain, drug and alcohol problems, and other conditions may be eligible for psychedelic-assisted therapy with ketamine. You're in, bro. That's what I'm telling you, man. Enhance. Enhance. Like, don't run from it. You know, I'm in a place right now where i think things happen for me
Starting point is 01:27:25 not to me i used to be like really think everything was happening to me this is instead of like okay what's the universe trying to tell me what am i learning from this what is my role in where i am right now right and that's like that's a big power shift in how i see everything and i think we live in a society that runs away from that stuff. Oh, I'm sad. I'm depressed. I'm all that. Okay, why?
Starting point is 01:27:48 Why are you? Why are you going to take these medications? And I'm not saying all medication people got to do what they think is best for them. And there's a lot of great positivity and all that stuff. But a lot of people don't want to ask themselves, why do they feel this way? And why are they going down that line? And why they want to do? Maybe they're meant to do something else and they just got to get the the you know the ability to make changes in their life you got to make change to get changed that was my biggest problem i was i i wanted change but i wasn't doing anything to get those changes right Well, I think so many people just get stuck, you know, living their life a certain way,
Starting point is 01:28:30 you know, thinking about things a certain way. And what you're saying, having the philosophy that things happen for you and live your life like things happen for you, like you're going to make better choices. Whether or not you really truly believe that everything is happening for a reason, if you think that way, you're going to make better choices. You're going to feel better about it. You know, like you think there's a lot of anxiety that gets alleviated in certain people when they put their trust in God.
Starting point is 01:28:58 They put their trust that God has a master plan for it all. It's all out of my hands. I'm just going to trust God. And people will say, well, that's a foolish hands. I'm just going to trust God. And that, and people will say, well, that's a foolish notion. You don't have to think that way. But the people that, some of my friends that are atheists are some of the most anxiety ridden. Miserable. Well, they're just so freaked out. And then some of them become spiritual, air quote spiritual,
Starting point is 01:29:19 you know? And I think that, I don't think it's necessary for people to believe in anything, but I do think that people have structures that have been long established because they help people get through just the fucking existential angst of being a person. thinking that there's a great deity that's watching over everything and thinking that you have a very special role in life that this great deity wants you to fulfill. And so everything is happening for you. You know, it's all God's plan. And if you think like that, it can be very self-serving in a good way. I mean, it can help you with He's like one of one of things a lot of people are burdened with is negative thoughts Yes, people are burdened with negative thoughts and anxiety Negative thoughts are them motherfucker of motherfuckers because you can't really just turn them off like it's someone goes a wolf think positive like well Fuck you. Yeah, like when you have negative thoughts, it's hard to get away from those bitches. But if you really program your mind to think that there is a God that's watching over you and everything's going to be fine and everything is God's will and God has a master plan for you
Starting point is 01:30:38 and just keep showing up at church and keep praying and you're going to be good. That'll alleviate enough anxiety for you to get a lot more shit done. I 100% believe in everything you're talking about right now. How many friends do we have that are atheists that are just riddled with anxiety? Just riddled? Just angst? Well, they believe in like, they don't believe in a God or anything like that, but they have a faith and that faith is in science right they they they read stuff and they read
Starting point is 01:31:10 an article and they believe they automatically have faith in what that article is telling them is real and like i have zero problems with science but i like i said i i question everything it's free might as well do it right and ask questions as long as you're willing to do the research on whatever it is You're questioning. I agree because there's some shit out there. That's stupid to question and then there's some shit that you go Hey, how come no one's questioning this? You know There's there's plenty of weirdness in the world where anybody who doesn't think that some conspiracies are legitimate is naive Right, you're a fool.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Because people have openly conspired. People have gone to jail for conspiring. It is a natural inclination of human beings. It's not like, that doesn't even make sense to me. A conspiracy where they make money and they gain power? What? You expect me to believe that? It's such a dumb attitude that people have. You expect me to believe that?
Starting point is 01:32:04 It's such a dumb attitude that people have. And the problem is that phrase, conspiracy theorist, is such a negative. If that gets slapped on you, immediately people are like, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. Yeah, just a couple like Enron or like Operation Northwoods. Or Iran-Contra. Yeah. Gulf of Tonkin incident. Yeah. or like Operation Northwoods or- Iran-Contra. Yeah. Gulf of Tonkin incident that got us into Vietnam. You know, Kennedy's assassination.
Starting point is 01:32:34 You know, just a few. Just a few Bay of Pigs. Just a few. Just a few. Fuck you, man. Fuck you. You don't think some conspiracies are real? Well, then they're going to run another one on you. Fuck you, man. Fuck you. You don't think some conspiracies are real? Well, then they're going to run another one on you.
Starting point is 01:32:49 All the time. Because you don't believe in them. Because you're scared to say. You've been tricked into not questioning the most questionable fucking people that have ever existed. World leaders. They're the only people, the reason why we go to war. It's those cunts.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Yeah, man. All of them. And they use the same playbook over and over And over and over and over again This is a new playbook though, they're turning us against Each other for, you know, being Non-binary and for Saying spaz, you see they went after Beyonce
Starting point is 01:33:16 Unbelievable People are so Fucking crazy with what they get Outraged about, spaz Is an ableist term. She can't say spaz. But it's also like, what does the media choose to highlight, right? It's like, there's a million people out there saying a million things.
Starting point is 01:33:34 What do you highlight? And when you highlight it, it becomes like there's a trend when it's really just one crazy person that's just going, hey, man, spastic. I didn't even know that existed. Right. I never thought that word was a bad word. I thought that was someone who, like, knocks over cans and spills. That's me. I'm spastic.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Yeah. I fucking knock things over. But there's an actual physical problem being spastic. Like, it's an actual thing. So that's the problem. That's a condition? I guess so. Like, let's find out what that means.
Starting point is 01:34:01 So that's the problem. That's a condition? I guess so. Like, let's find out what that means. When we grew up, I didn't know anybody that had that condition, but I certainly knew that phrase. Right. It was always for a guy. Stop acting like a spaz. Yeah, or stop knocking shit over and being a fucking spaz.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Like, sit down. Like, you know, you're knocking shit over. I didn't know that was like this kind of thing that is worth, like, protecting their feelings on. Let's find out. Okay, it's in the dictionary. It depends how you get here. Yeah, okay. Spaz.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Third person. Spaz's past tense. Spazzed. Past participle. Spazzed. To lose physical or emotional control. He offered a post-game assessment. I spazzed to lose physical or emotional control. He offered a post-game assessment I spazzed out real bad. But still, there's nothing, no disrespect to anybody,
Starting point is 01:34:58 but I don't understand the connection between that and... Okay, so here it is. Spastic, often offensive, a person with cerebral palsy. See, this is why okay so relating to or denoting a form of muscular weakness uh spastic paralysis typical of cerebral palsy caused by damage to the brain or spinal cord and evolving reflex resistance to passive movement of the limbs and difficulty in initiating and controlling muscular movement. It's also just defining what a spasm is. So it's a bit of a stretch to get there.
Starting point is 01:35:33 It is a bit of a stretch because it says relating to or affected by muscle spasm, but they use that term sometimes for people with cerebral palsy. It says offensive, dated? What does that mean? Here's the lyrics from how it was used. It's right down here. I haven't even heard the song.
Starting point is 01:35:50 It says, spazzing on that ass, spaz on that ass, fan me quick, girl. I need my glass. Bro, we need to start writing raps. What are we doing? We're wasting our time with jokes. Do you know who's even worse than that? You ever read children's books? No, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:36:04 They're like people couldn't make it as rappers, so they write kids' books. The Gruffalo. It's crazy. I can't believe- Let's read all those lyrics. Oh, well, yeah. It was better on top of that. On top of it was good?
Starting point is 01:36:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tip, tip, tip on hardwood floors. Ten, ten, 10 across the board. Is this a good song? I haven't heard it, so I don't even know the tempo. The problem is you can't read lyrics. It's bullshit. You're an asshole.
Starting point is 01:36:32 If you read lyrics, I mean, she has a beautiful voice. But it's also like delivery, right? Play it. Let's hear it. The song's called Heated. And did they beep the spaz part out? Spaz on an ass? So I heard they're going to go back and correct it.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Oh, it's kind of like, let's get retarded in here. They did. Let's get it started in here Archie backers rolling over just give us it anytime That's pretty good. Yeah, I'm hearing it. That's not bad. Not bad. That's a catchy song. Spazzing on that ass. Have you ever thought that that would be an issue?
Starting point is 01:37:35 Imagine, go back and listen to some old NWA kids and get back to me. Can you imagine thinking that that's a problem? It's unbelievable. Spazzing on that ass. Spaz on that ass. And there's like a social movement going on. Oof. People are just looking for things to complain about, no matter what it is.
Starting point is 01:37:53 I remember when I was younger, still old, but younger, and I didn't know what a hollaback girl meant. And I went to this chick I was talking to. I'm like, what? You're not a hollaback girl? She's like, fuck you, you fucking asshole. What does it mean? I think it's about like a girl that hooks up with people. Oh.
Starting point is 01:38:12 Oh, okay. You hollered her, she hollered back. I ain't no hollaback girl. You know what I'm saying? Right. You hollered her, she hollered right back. Yeah, right? Something like that.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Oh, okay. That makes sense. So it's like, I don't even know what's offensive anymore. I've tapped out all that shit. The problem is everybody's got a fucking opinion, and there's always going to be someone out there that finds something you say offensive. Because if you're talking shit like we do, being offensive is part of the thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:37 It's not the whole thing, but occasionally it is. Occasionally you're saying things because they are offensive, because it's funny to say something offensive sometimes. Yeah, and people can get offended I that's fine I don't know when being offended became a felony right but when it gets down to spazzing on that ass and then you're like I am NOT having this conversation this bullshit this needs to stop spazzing on that ass spaz on that ass that's that's the end of society as we know it. This is what we're dealing with.
Starting point is 01:39:09 It's pretty catchy. I mean, it's catchy, but it's like, who is actually upset? So a while ago, like about five years ago, I'm an L.A. Clipper fan. I love the basketball team. And the Clippers were, I think, in Memphis, and they were playing the Memphis Grizzlies. And this Iranian center checked in. And the announcers, one of the announcers who had been the announcer there for like 30 or 40 years, I think made a joke that the center could have auditioned for Borat.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Right? That's funny. have auditioned for Borat, right? That's funny. One guy sent in an email, and this guy who had been the announcer for 30 or 40 years got suspended for two games. One guy sent an email. But did the guy look like Borat? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:58 So what's wrong with looking like Borat? He's a fucking beloved character. I don't even know, but one guy got upset by it and emailed the television station and they suspended this guy for two years. See, when they say cancel culture isn't real, this is somewhat what they're talking about. That's so silly. Because what it
Starting point is 01:40:16 is, is it's corporations that act quickly to make it seem like there's consequences. They're panicking. They panic, you know. Right. But they don't all panic. Some of them stand their ground and a lot of these companies are saying get out of here This is nonsense. Leave us alone. It is nonsense. It is nonsense and especially nonsense in that context because that was clearly humor The guy was cracking a joke. The guy looks like Borat. Borat's funny. That's funny If he looks like Borat, you'll be like BAAA! Yeah, right. If I was there and I saw it, I'd be like, ah he does. Why is that bad?
Starting point is 01:40:43 It's not negative towards Borat. It's not negative towards him. The fuck is wrong with people? But the point was is that one person complained. Borat is the shit. Yeah, it's a great movie. It's the shit. Well, he's a great character.
Starting point is 01:40:57 Fucking Sacha Baron Cohen is the shit. One guy. How is that negative? I don't know, man. Can you imagine? You can't even say that. So silly. But why would a corporation shut down for one dude, which is getting into this? I don't know imagine you can't even say that so silly but why would a corporation shut down for one dude which is getting to this like no it doesn't it doesn't have to make sense they're just panicking
Starting point is 01:41:12 they're just scared they're scared of a boycott they're scared of their name getting out there they're scared of it being like they're the person who didn't respond and then a campaign of people come after them. You know, I get it. I get it. If I was a corporation and things were shifting this quickly, I'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. People are so sensitive now. And then COVID was just gasoline.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Gasoline on the fire. Gasoline. Yeah. And now monkey box. Unbelievable. Did you know that 98% of the people who get monkey box get it from unprotected gay sex and the other 2% are liars? That's just a joke, kids. I'm neither a statistician or, but I do think that that's most of it. I really do. Jokes aside. I think, uh, what is it?
Starting point is 01:42:04 What is it? Isn't it. I think What is it? Poppers and ass juice? Is that what the bad combination is? They're having sex. It's shingles, dog. But why can't bisexual men give it to women? It seems like they could, right? 528 infections diagnosed
Starting point is 01:42:19 between April 27th and June 24th, 2022 at 43 sites in 16 countries, overall 98% of the persons with infection were gay or bisexual men. 75% were white and 41% had immunodeficiency virus infection, HIV infection. The median age was 38 years old. Transmission was suspected to have occurred through sexual activity and 95% of the persons with the infection then again is 5% were
Starting point is 01:42:50 liars this is case series no no how bad is it like when you get it see what it says common systemic features preceding the rash included fever, lethargy, myalgia, headache, lymphadenopathy. I guess that's like swollen lymph nodes. Is that what that is? Commitment sexually diseased. So, okay. Rash, lesions, mucosal lesions, genital lesions. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Man, you get polka dots on your face. So what do they do to cure it? What do they do to cure that thing? People are calling out for the vaccine. They're trying to get a vaccine for it, I guess. Yeah, they're already waiting in line for it. So they already have a vaccine for it? Well, there's lines in New York City.
Starting point is 01:43:40 You see it. You can see pictures. How long has monkeypox been around for? I don't even know. I didn't even know there was monkeypox. It's a problem. It is? It's a problem.
Starting point is 01:43:49 LA's declaring a state of emergency. California. Gavin Newsom's like- State of emergency. I think they did. State of emergency. I get to keep my emergency powers. How many cases of monkeypox are there?
Starting point is 01:43:59 That said 550, 71. In a state with what? How many millions? 40? 5,800. 5,800 with what? How many millions? 40? 5,800 people in California alone or nationwide? The map. Sorry, the U.S. map.
Starting point is 01:44:12 5,800 people have it in the United States. One Florida case is listed here but included in the U.K. since he was tested in the U.K. So this is current, August 1st. Right. 5,811 cases. Wow Montana Wyoming have zero cases the fucking manliest people alive they're the manliest fuck says Yellowstone bro that's fucking Kevin Costner right what am I getting zero I ain't about to get fucking monkey box calm or nobody's talking yeah he's not getting monkey bucks.
Starting point is 01:44:45 A couple states with just one case. Then how did they get it? You know, if a cowboy shows up on a ranch from Nebraska and all of a sudden you see a blue spot in the middle of Wyoming. As we're watching, it slowly turns blue. You know what happened.
Starting point is 01:45:01 This one badass gay cowboy fucks everybody. He just shows up at these ranches slinging dick and riding ponies. How did he get one case? Who gave it to him? Did he give it to himself? Yeah, right. Who was case zero? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Where did monkeypox originate from? It was 23,600 worldwide according to Monday's numbers. That's a really good Snoop Dogg concert. Had Snoop Dogg at an arena 23,600 worldwide According to Monday numbers from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention The outbreak first spotted in Europe in late April Has reached 80 countries The vast majority in nations that hadn't been
Starting point is 01:45:40 Hadn't previously had significant caseloads of the rare viral infection. So it's a rare viral infection. And monkeypox originated, where did it originate from? Is this like an old disease? Yeah. Is it? So it's a zoonotic disease, isn't it? A zoonotic?
Starting point is 01:46:03 Yeah, a disease that came from animals. I think it is. I think most of the diseases that we have, like the avian flu, and this is another problem with factory farming. That's one of the things that happens. Like, they jump. Like, pigs will get a disease, and swine flu will jump and start infecting people. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Yeah. When I was at the Center for Disease Control with Duncan, we filmed an episode of Joe Rogan Questions Everything There. They scared the fucking shit out of us. Yeah. Because this is a story. That's where every zombie movie starts, by the way. Me and Duncan ate edibles and we went to the airport
Starting point is 01:46:37 and we got so high we missed our flight and not by a little. It had taken off like a half an hour ago. So we were stuck in this fucking airport. I mean, interdimensionally traveling, like so high. And then we got a flight out in the morning. So we basically stayed up all night till like six in the morning, flew into wherever it was.
Starting point is 01:46:57 I guess it's Houston. What's outside of Galveston? Anyway, then got a rental car and then drove there. So we were giddy. We were silly. We hadn't slept. And then we were talking to this guy were silly. We hadn't slept. And then we were talking to this guy in this fucking laboratory where the walls are as thick as this building.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Really? Plexiglass. And inside there's people with spacesuits. And they're manipulating these fucking viruses. They have these big vacuum ducts in the ceiling that suck any air, any possible particle of an escaped virus out of them. It is wild to see. So this guy is showing me, and he's like, inside we have in this facility multiple diseases that could just wipe people out.
Starting point is 01:47:38 And so they're just trying to figure out how to, you know, what makes these viruses function, that which gets really controversial right and they're also trying to figure out how to develop vaccines for them and medications like how do you you know how do you kill it in vitro in a cell culture there's they're doing all kinds of tests on them but this is the scary stuff is when they try to make them better. That's gain-of-function research. That's wild shit.
Starting point is 01:48:13 And that's the shit that the Obama administration shut down. I believe it was 2014 they shut it down. Did they? Supposedly. But then the Trump administration came along, and according to Josh Rogin, Josh Rogin is a journalist. I think he's for the Washington Post, right? He was on the podcast explaining it, that they restarted gain-of-function research. It was the exact same place.
Starting point is 01:48:35 So Fauci wasn't doing that? I thought Obama was part of that, and he was, like, visiting those. I think when he visited, he was like, what the fuck are we doing? Really? I think he put the gabbosh on it. Let's Google that. I'm pretty sure the Obama administration put the gabbosh on gain-of-function research. And then it became a question of what exactly is gain-of-function research, right?
Starting point is 01:48:55 And that was those arguments that Rand Paul had with Fauci when they were arguing, you do not, with all due respect, you do not know what you are talking about. Wow. Yeah. And they were going back and forth in this very fascinating way. Because the problem is the term. I almost wish they'd abandoned the term that Rand Paul said, okay, did you or did you not take viruses and make it so they were more effective in infecting human beings? And did you or did you not develop them on human lung cultures?
Starting point is 01:49:30 Did you or did you not do that? Did you or did you not alter viruses to make them more infectious, capable of infecting human beings? Did you do that? What kind of stuff did you do to viruses? Tell us what you did. Don't call it gain-of-function research. Let's call it abracadabra.
Starting point is 01:49:49 What abracadabra did you do to the virus? Perfect term. Did someone do abracadabra? Did you give someone money to do abracadabra? Forget about gain-of-function. Let's just say this thing where you're manipulating viruses. Let's just call it abracadabra. Did we do that?
Starting point is 01:50:03 Did we spend money? Did we spend taxpayers' money? Okay, 2017. On December 19, 2017, the U.S. National Institutes of Health announced that they would resume funding gain-of-function experiments. Right. So this is during the Trump administration. So the moratorium had been in place since October 2014. Right.
Starting point is 01:50:21 So that's it. So during the Obama administration in October of 2014, they went, let's stop doing this. At the time, the NIH had stated that the moratorium, in quotes, will be effective until a robust and broad deliberative process is completed that results in the adoption of a new U.S. government gain-of-function research policy. What? That seems like, read that statement again. Will be effective until a robust and broad deliberative process is completed
Starting point is 01:50:56 that results in the adoption of a new U.S. government gain-of-function research policy. So that means they were planning on restarting it no matter what. That's what the NIH stated. So they were like, until we meet again. That's basically what they said. Just hold on. We'll get the funding. We're going to make it happen.
Starting point is 01:51:15 The crazy thing is now that they've done this and now that this virus has come out and infected the world, there's still the question of where it came from. And there's still people saying it came from the wet market. I just read an article recently, and I was like, okay, who believes this and who thinks this is horseshit? Have you ever heard of the Spars pandemic simulation? No. It's kind of like Event 201.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Have you heard of 201? No. You've never heard of Event 201? Does that have anything to do with New Jersey? No. It's kind of like Event 201. Have you heard of 201? No. You've never heard of Event 201? Does that have anything to do with New Jersey? No. Well, I don't know. Where is John Hopkins located? So this is a very interesting one.
Starting point is 01:52:00 This is like- SARS pandemic scenario. What is this? Centerforhealthsecurity.org. Is this a legitimate website? Yes. Okay. And this is a training exercise based on a fictional
Starting point is 01:52:13 scenario. Here's the problem. It basically tells you the game plan that went down. And it's... Before we get into this one, will you look up event... No, no, no, no, no. We were here. Okay. Let's just get to this. Okay, okay. Because I just want to set up event But no, no, no, no, no. We were here. Okay. Okay. Okay. Because I just want to set. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. Let's not jump.
Starting point is 01:52:30 We're here. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. But just let me establish this. The center spars pandemic exercise narrative compromises, or comprises, rather, a futuristic scenario that illustrates communication dilemmas concerning medical countermeasures that could plausibly emerge in the not-so-distant future
Starting point is 01:52:49 Its purpose is to prompt users both individually and in discussion with others to imagine the dynamic and oftentimes conflicted circumstances in which communication around emergency MCM development Distribution and uptake takes place. Well, that just makes sense because in chaos chaos, in any kind of an emergency, it's very difficult to get information out. Right. Okay? All that's logical. While engaged with a rigorous simulated health emergency scenario, readers have the opportunity to mentally rehearse responses while also weighing the implications of their actions. their actions. At the same time, readers have a chance to consider what potential measures implemented in today's environment might avert comparable communication dilemmas or classes of
Starting point is 01:53:29 dilemmas in the future. Does that make sense that you would want to have something like that in place? So where is it bad? So what basically gets in is if you follow it, it's step by step exactly what happened. Let's see what the steps are. You have to go through it. Now, real quick, I know you don't want to jump, but if you get into this thing called- No, no, we're not jumping. We'll go to that. Okay. But for this, so if they outlined it step by step- Yes.
Starting point is 01:53:55 And this is the plan they had in case a pandemic broke out. So of course they outlined it step by step. Right, but there's also a notion that this is the game plan that they created to follow. Okay. There is that argument. The problem with that is it implies a grand conspiracy to release a virus into the world. Right? I think, much more likely, the virus accidentally got into the world, and then what they had to do was figure out a way to manage people.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Okay. what they had to do was figure out a way to manage people. Okay. And they did it by the same ways that they had devised to handle a pandemic if one was to break out. I think it's way more likely that someone did some sloppy shit, especially when you find out that the laboratory where they think it might have emerged from had safety violations in 2018. Like they weren't, these people are not happy doing what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Like I'm sure they're getting forced into working with fucking viruses. And there's probably some fucking, you know, I mean, you see the way they treat the Foxconn employees. How are they treating the employees at the virus place? Are they tip top magoo? Is it like Galveston where they're all in the spacesuits?
Starting point is 01:55:04 Or do they have like N95 masks on handling Ebola like Galveston where they're on the spacesuits? Right, right. Or do they have like N95 masks on handling Ebola? What the fuck are they doing? Do we know? You know? It's interesting. It's interesting. My guess, my guess, I'm obviously not an expert, is that it got out and they tried
Starting point is 01:55:18 to panic and they tried to contain it and then they tried to lie about it and then there's a bunch of people that do not under any circumstance want to tie it to US funded research. And when you read stories about, oh, it definitely came from the wet market, they don't have an animal host. They don't. They don't. Yeah. So if they don't- Where's patient zero, right?
Starting point is 01:55:40 Yeah. They don't have that. So if they don't have that, they don't really know. There's a lot of guessing, and there are legitimate scientists that think it may have come from a wet market. That's legitimate. I just don't know if they're correct. There's a lot of people that don't think so. There's a lot of people that have examined the virus and think that it's been manipulated.
Starting point is 01:56:01 The problem is I'm too dumb to know. Yeah. I mean, if you're too dumb, what does that make me? Jesus Christ. But my whole thing is, here's my whole thing with everything. Your whole thing with everything by Sam Tripoli. That should be the title of your book. That will be my next special. It always just seems like this, if it's just some random event that got out of hand, how come it always seems to fall the same way where the same people get the money and get all the power all the time? Because they're the people that already have the money and the power.
Starting point is 01:56:32 And they keep expanding it. It's a natural human instinct. It's a natural human instinct when you're governing people to try to have as much control over them as possible because you can get shit done. That's why people were so angry at Trudeau with that trucker rally because it's a natural human instinct to try to demean those people and to say that many of them are racist and misogynist. It was a crude way he did it.
Starting point is 01:56:56 It was really clunky. It was very clunky. If you're a leader, you're a leader and this is the way you treat people with no evidence. Because he didn't have evidence that they were racist and misogynist. And how many of them? There's hundreds of them. But that's kind of the game plan. Right, right, right. But with no evidence, you're not supposed to do that. If you're a person that people are supposed to look to as a leader, you should be offering evidence why this group is problematic and evidence with like real research
Starting point is 01:57:23 and you know it for a fact and you can prove it in court. If you want to say that, you want to say, hey, maybe you didn't know, but there's a bunch of Nazi truckers heading our way and they really are Nazis. We should know that too. Right. Right. But you were never going to believe you now.
Starting point is 01:57:37 So when, when you say that these people are terrible people just because they're protesting against mandates, it means you don't like protests. That's what it means. You don't want protests. You don't like questioning power. That's a natural human instinct to try to stop the people that are the dissenters, stop the people that are questioning, stop the people that are opposing you, stop them in their tracks by whatever means we can.
Starting point is 01:57:59 Investigate them. Find out what they're doing. Cut them off at the pass. Find out what they're doing. Cut them off at the pass. You know, you have to have an ability to talk about stuff that you don't like. And protests are a part of that. We just have a different set of rules down here, man. We have the First Amendment.
Starting point is 01:58:15 It's a totally different thing. You know, we have this ability to express ourselves that's pretty rare in terms of like- It really is. Yeah. I mean, other countries are pretty free, terms of like it really is yeah i mean other countries are pretty free but this place is really fucking free in terms of the most of the world and anyone denies that like i'm not a fan of drone strikes and unnecessary wars and capitalist agendas that ruin environments i'm not a fan of any of these things. Let's just be real clear But when you look at it, you gotta look at the big picture
Starting point is 01:58:46 This is like the first time in over the last like couple of hundred years that people just generally got along Or when a boat shows up at your shore most of the time you don't think they're trying to kill you right? It's only been a few hundred years or 400 years You know I mean We all fucking Columbus read about what Columbus did Read about what I did read about what those people did it's horrific there were monsters They were barbarians they killed babies. They cut people's arms off because they didn't bring back enough gold There's a there was a priest that traveled with them and wrote a
Starting point is 01:59:21 He wrote like a journal and they got a hold of this journal they're reading about this guy talking about what the columbus's men did unbelievable it's scary so there were like sanctioned monsters you know and that was most people back then man most most of those marauders and explorers they did horrible man horrible you know you read the empire of summer moon and find out what the comanches did to other indians yeah oh my god horrible shit man they would capture people cut their arms and legs off and then while they're alive throw them on the fire oh and watch them and they would laugh and laugh and they would always fight to the death native americans would fight to death because they didn't believe in
Starting point is 02:00:07 Captives like if you got captured you're getting tortured and killed like you might as well fight now They're not gonna like put you in a prison take care of you and try to fucking Prisoner war and give you back when the war is over. No, you're getting murdered. Yeah slowly and agonizingly What they did the women was off noses off. One of the girls was in Empire of the Summer Moon. She was kidnapped. And then when they returned her, they returned her without her nose.
Starting point is 02:00:32 And they freaked out and went back and killed a bunch of people. And it brought people to trial. It was terrifying times, man, where just the ruthlessness of human nature was so awful and obviously the things that the Europeans did to the Native Americans is awful too but the most awful thing they did was give him smallpox give him diseases yeah that's my kills it wasn't even blankets man that's that's apparently a myth too they didn't really understand virology back then like that they just gave it to him they just gave it to him by being around them that's what killed everybody in North
Starting point is 02:01:07 America killed like 90% of the Native Americans like when we talk about like the genocide of North American Indians it's real 100% but it's also disease did it to disease killed most of them that's probably why the fucking Mayan pyramids were left there that's probably why when you go through the Amazon when they do that lidar scan of the Amazon they find these Ancient pathways and structures that indicated grids where cities were they probably all died off. Yeah from fucking smallpox It's wild shit. It is man and like the the history of man It's like who knows what the real timeline is i think the timeline goes way back i think it goes back tens of thousands of years before the younger driest
Starting point is 02:01:51 impact that's what i think 100 i think it only makes sense when you see shit like the pyramids and you see some of the really ancient structures like gobeckly tepe and you're like what 12 000 years ago they did this like Like, who did this? And where these pyramids are located, ley lines, all that stuff. Just the amazing way they have it do north, south, east, and west, and it comes to this perfect peak. Like, you can't make any fuck-ups when you're building a pyramid. And they have some that are fucked up, some that are, like, kind of bent,
Starting point is 02:02:25 jacked. But what Graham Hancock thinks is those are the ones where people were trying to imitate the older structures. Just everybody died off. They lost everybody. They got to a very high level of sophistication, and then everybody died. It's almost like grizzly bears who move into houses in Michigan. They're like, this is my cave, dog.
Starting point is 02:02:44 Exactly. Dude, it's exactly like, this is my cave, dog. Exactly. Dude, it's exactly like that. It's exactly like that. I used to have a bit about it, that we were the children of the idiot stone workers of Egypt and everybody else died. My joke was that the dumb people out-fucked the smart people. But I think what it really probably was
Starting point is 02:03:02 was some sort of cataclysmic event. I think it happened all over the world. And I only think this because of talking to Randall Carlson and all the physical evidence that he provides. When they do the core samples and they find all that iridium at like 12,000 years ago. And there's another moment too, I think, like 10,000 years ago. I think we got fucking blasted with space rocks. I think it killed most people. And then people had to rebuild.
Starting point is 02:03:28 Have you ever heard the Brock saga? You were going to tell me about the 201 thing, though. Okay. I mean, but it gets into that, what I was telling you before. That's okay. I just felt like we had to, like... If you want to get into 201, we can get into that. It was basically...
Starting point is 02:03:43 What is 201? Basically, 201 is a lot like what the thing i was telling you where these people got together and they they just basically role played out what happened if if a giant pandemic came out and scenarios and it just totally matched up to what happened now the only thing tiny pushback i put, is that you see laws being passed for COVID before the pandemic actually happens. What do you mean? Certain laws pass to give the government certain powers.
Starting point is 02:04:21 And they literally talk about COVID. Sam, let's pause this right here because I've got to pee so bad. Oh, yeah. Can I pee too? Yeah, let's pee because I drank two giant liquid IVs after getting out of the sauna. All right. We'll be right back. You see that in L.A., man.
Starting point is 02:04:35 This is a drought, though, in Texas. This is unusual for Texas. Really? Yeah, it usually rains a lot here, which is one of the things that I love. Fire's dying down. Okay. What's the rest of the things that I love. Fires dying down. Okay. It says Star Flight has been contacted according to Austin Fire Department,
Starting point is 02:04:54 which says the fire is dying down. No evacuations have happened yet. Oh, hold on. Go back to that. It says low fuels, mulch, and bushes. Fire dying down. Okay. Fire is dying down. down dude the craziest thing i do a joke about but the craziest thing is that uh when in california the fires were like people like live stream driving through the murder fires i know and you're like what are you doing it's all for clicks and views i know know. It's like you're going to die stupid. And people do die like that.
Starting point is 02:05:26 They died in not doing live streaming, but died in their cars trapped in fires in Northern California. That one big giant fire. A lot of people died from fires. I think there was a very high number of people that got stuck on this one road. Can you imagine? Yeah. You're stuck in traffic, and you watch the fire just evaporating the cars in front of
Starting point is 02:05:47 you, and you know you can't go backwards, and you can't go forwards, and you're stuck with your family. That's one of the reasons why I had my Land Cruiser made. If you got to get out. Yeah. I wanted to get in an apocalypse vehicle. Yeah, I respect that, bro. Giant gas tank.
Starting point is 02:06:03 Giant gas tank that can drive over anything a car can drive over, other than one of them crazy Jeeps that can articulate. Get a militia going, bro. Just a whole group of people, crossbows, guns. I just think you should have something that can drive on a place where there's no road.
Starting point is 02:06:20 Yeah. It's a good thing to have in your stable. I think that's huge, bro. When shit went down out here, I have a 1995 Land Cruiser. And I don't know if you know about those, but the Land Cruisers are like some of the most dependable off-road vehicles that have ever been made. And the 95s were one of the last models, the 80 series. I have the FZJ80. What's it look like?
Starting point is 02:06:44 It's dope. Icon built it for me. It's silver. It's sweet. What's it look like? It's dope. Icon built it for me. It's silver. It's sweet. It's beautiful. It's dope as fuck. Is this some Batman shit? It looks like a 1995 Land Cruiser. It's just got cool tires on it and great lights. But it's got floodlights so I can see all kinds of shit with it.
Starting point is 02:06:59 But most importantly, these cars have solid axles. Front and rear. It's a real off-road vehicle. So even though most people that bought them used them for mall crawling, they were used in Afghanistan. They were used in a lot of overseas military applications. They're fucking durable as shit. That's why a lot of those guys who came over, like Jack Carr, the guy who wrote The Terminalist, the reason why, if you watch that television show and in the book,
Starting point is 02:07:27 Chris Pratt's driving a Land Cruiser. He's driving a 60 series, 62 series, which is a dope model year. And he's got this like souped up one by the same company. It's Icon One. You need something to get out. I think about that in LA all the time, dude. When shit's the fan, everyone's trying to get out. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:44 If you got a Corvette, you're not going over a hill. Yeah. Yeah. You got to have something that can get you out of here. Or a dirt bike or something. Most of the time, you're not going to need it. I know. I know.
Starting point is 02:07:54 Most of the time. It's so silly to prepare like that and think like that. But if you do, if you needed to drive over the ground, most people can't do it. Your car can't do it. And my car, you know, your car can't do it. And my car can only go some places. You can't go straight up a mountain. You can't go, where there's no road, you're not going to go. But the difference between being able to, like when the snow hit out here, I was having a great fucking time.
Starting point is 02:08:19 I was on that Land Cruiser. Fuck yeah, man. That thing just drives like so smooth over snow. It was like, oh. I think about that all the time. My truck was like, we got this, dude. We got this. I think about if shit's a fan in LA, how am I going to get my kids out?
Starting point is 02:08:34 It's too big. There's too many people. I want to live right on the edge. Of LA? Yeah. That's when they'll flood right to you then. They're going to leave in LA. They're going to go right to you.
Starting point is 02:08:48 I'd be like, we got to beat them out, bro. You got gotta live a couple miles outside of a place like i mean a couple hours outside of a place like la to be able to like have enough time to evacuate when the zombie apocalypse do you think about that with like austin where you're gonna go if you had to i didn't think about that until covid i mean i did think about that but not really think about that until covid when covid happened was like, what if this was way worse? And what if the power grid went down? And what if there was a solar flare that blacked out all communications? And what if there's an asteroid impact that takes out Chicago and blows our grid to pieces? And there's a nuclear winter because of the fucking- I think about that all the time. That can happen, man. Yellowstone can blow. You know, there's a lot of things that could go wrong.
Starting point is 02:09:28 But the asteroid impact one is one of the most likely. It's happened before, man. It happens all the time. We are getting at least little tiny ones that are flying through our atmosphere all the time. I think there's like an alarming number that enter into our atmosphere every day, but they're usually small. Like what is the number of meteorites that enter into our atmosphere? Let's just guess. I must say. I think it's like a hundred. Really? Yeah. What do you think? A thousand. A thousand every day? Every day? Oh, every day? Every day. Gotta be a couple. I mean,
Starting point is 02:10:03 yeah, about a hundred. I mean, yeah, about 100. I'm low ball on saying 100, but I think it's probably- I thought we'd get thousands over like a year. I think maybe, well, let's find out. I think it's more than 100. I think I'm super low balling. How many meteorites enter into our atmosphere? It added together a bunch. So it added together meteoroids, micrometeoroids, and other space debris.
Starting point is 02:10:29 An estimated 25 million enter every day. 25 million every day? Whoa. It's just a space bukkake. That's what that is. Earth is hit by 17 meteorites a day. Space bukkake. That should be the name of your next special.
Starting point is 02:10:48 Space bukkake. Dude, you should do a bit on this, and you should literally name it space bukkake. Oh, my God. Wow. Look at that one. It's estimated that probably 500 meteorites reach the surface of the Earth each year.
Starting point is 02:11:03 Okay. But less than 10 are recovered. That's interesting. That is because most fall into the ocean, land, and in remote areas of the Earth, land in places that are not easily accessible or just not seen to fall. They fall during the day. Interesting. Do you know that they find a lot of chunks from the moon, meteorites that are apparently,
Starting point is 02:11:27 they know they're from the moon. They find them in Antarctica. The moon is really interesting, dude. Really interesting. Because it doesn't make sense, a lot of it. What doesn't make sense? Why it's there, how it works, what it represents. There are cultures that remember when the moon
Starting point is 02:11:46 wasn't there. They're probably not right. Okay, hey man. They're ancient, bro. Yeah, they're not right. They know how old the moon is. They know how old the moon is. That's one of them theories. It's silly to go that far. To think there's cultures that knew when there was no moon.
Starting point is 02:12:03 No, they don't. Dude, there's some weird energy with the moon. It stabilizes our atmosphere. It stabilizes a lot of things about... The moon is, what is it? One quarter size the Earth, right? Isn't it? It's an energy collector, bro.
Starting point is 02:12:17 It's one sixth Earth gravity, but is it one quarter size the Earth? How big is the moon? I think it's less than that. I think the moon's interesting, bro. I think it's less than a quarter size. I think it's an energy collector. Oh, okay. And Pac-Man is about the moon.
Starting point is 02:12:32 Less than a third the width of Earth. I don't know. Oh, that's a lot bigger than I thought. A third. A third the width of Earth? Really? It gives back a lot of different answers for the way that you say how big is the moon. So the prevailing theory, I believe, is that the moon was formed when Earth was hit by
Starting point is 02:12:53 another planet. A radius of 1,080 miles, the moon is less than a third of the width of Earth. If Earth was the size of a nickel, the moon would be about as big as a coffee bean. The moon is an average of 238,855 miles away. Earth is four times bigger than the moon. Moon is more than one quarter, 27% the size of the Earth. Wow, so it's more than 25%. A much larger ratio than any other planets and their moons so what they think is that
Starting point is 02:13:26 earth they have um i think the theory is earth one and earth two and that earth one was the original earth and this was like the early formation of earth and then earth was hit by another planet because back then shit was wild yeah it was wild out there by the way that's not that long ago right earth is only like 4 point something billion years old, right? And the universe is like 10 billion, almost 10 billion more than that for what we know. So it's crazy. The universe is around for 10 billion fucking years. What happened the moment before the universe showed up?
Starting point is 02:14:02 What was there? Right, what was there? Dude, these meat suits can't I can't calculate that shit Well that in the idea of infinity is too much. Yeah, we can't we we can pretend that we can understand it But it's not really I think these are sumo meat suits Right like kind of like when you go to a party and you're like doing those and they're meant to limit our ability that to understand certain thoughts. On purpose?
Starting point is 02:14:29 Yeah, because we're here for karma. Well, isn't it... What? Yeah, dude. I believe we're here. This is a realm of karma, and we're here to figure something out. Really? Yes, that's my honest belief.
Starting point is 02:14:45 Huh. And this, dude, these meat suits are purposely made to limit our capacity to figure stuff out. So we don't just Superman this shit or the boys it. So we have to go through and we have to learn this thing. And I think we live multiple lives.
Starting point is 02:15:01 It gets into this thing about abundance versus scarcity. And I think we live multiple lives. It gets into this thing about abundance versus scarcity. And I think we live multiple lives until we get it right. I've heard that. That thought is an old thought. A lot of people believe that, including Elio Gracie. I think the grandfather of the Gracie clan. I do believe it. He believed that.
Starting point is 02:15:19 He believed you live your life over and over again until you get it right. I think we're taught scarcity as children, that there's only limited this and limited that, and it puts fear into us. Instead of that, there's enough for everybody, and the more you give away, the more it comes back to you. You only live once, blah, blah, blah, that's pounded into us. So I think that we have multiple lives. That's interesting.
Starting point is 02:15:42 You're kind of almost like back engineering it hey man i try to look at it from like ancient times to today you know what we know about ancient times versus today like what is going on and i think i think people had i think if you look at the impact theory and the concept is that people were super advanced, they built all these giant structures, and then something happened, and then they had to rebuild. It almost kind of makes sense because you have people that are super intelligent, but they're acting like fucking total psychos. Like people would if it was a Mad Max scenario, and then it eventually evolved to be less of a Mad Max scenario.
Starting point is 02:16:27 And then it became just kings and monarchs and ruling over people and famine and disease and occasionally witches. But the reason why people are so fucking smart and why none of it makes sense is because we did have a certain level of sophistication at one point in time that we don't have anymore. Yeah. I think history is a giant lie. I think we're told a lot of history that we know isn't exactly what went down. I think there's a whole bunch of stuff when pieces start coming together, you're like, whoa. How do these conversations go with Callan when you guys do-
Starting point is 02:17:02 Oh, it's the best, bro. Conspiracy Theory Social Club. Yeah, it does that. He doesn't believe in all, but you know, he's a great guy. I love him to death and I love him to pieces. And it's a fun show. I think if he believed in anything, it would just be another conspiracy show. But the fact that I always used to love the old debate show, William F. Buckley,
Starting point is 02:17:24 where they'd show up in suits and verbally annihilate each other. Firing line, right? Firing line, yeah. And I always wanted to do that. And so when Callan's like, let's do a show, I'm like, okay, let's do it. And it's the number one debate show between binary men, okay? We just kind of go at each other. Right.
Starting point is 02:17:42 And it works, and I just enjoy it. He believes in some stuff he doesn't want to believe, but that's why the show's great. And I enjoy it. I love Hidden History. I kind of started getting into it when this author, Matt LaCroix, came on my podcast. He told me about all the pyramids and how all the pyramids around the world
Starting point is 02:18:01 have such similar architecture and design and how they're on all these ley lines. Then I had this woman who kind of helped change my life. Her name's Von Galt. She's a Buddhist author. And she was saying the same thing, but in a spiritual way. And I go, wow, the man, we got science over here saying this and then spirituality saying this.
Starting point is 02:18:22 Maybe there's something to it. And it's just about all kind of like the Anunnaki and stuff like that, whether you want to get into that. But I believe we have a long, long history of, of that we've been lied to about how really special we are. But wait a minute, have we been lied to or are we all trying to figure it all out? This is the problem that I have with a lot of conspiracy theorists, is that they want to think that someone in every facet of life, someone has it completely under control and
Starting point is 02:18:55 knows exactly what it is and why we're here. Okay. What's wrong with that is that everybody started off as a baby. Everybody that's alive today started off as a baby. And they started off as a baby fairly recently that's alive today started off as a baby. And they started off as a baby fairly recently. Yeah. You know, so I don't think they know.
Starting point is 02:19:09 I don't think it's possible. I think you'd have to be alive back then to really know what the fuck is up. And even if you believe, even if you 100% believe, you don't know for sure. Even if you believe in some wacky skull and crossbones fucking scroll that they pull out where they tell you how the earth was formed and that the Anunnaki are coming, you gotta be prepared and you gotta suck a dick with a Polaroid because we have to have evidence on you. What do you mean it's not working the camera?
Starting point is 02:19:36 The only way we can do this is you gotta suck a dick on camera. You know, that's like, even if you believe all that, I think you don't know. And I think that's the reality of being a person. I don't think there's any all-knowing, all-wise person that's evilly running the world through strings, like a puppeteer. I think it's more likely a bunch of people that have amassed mass wealth and power, and they're trying to maintain that in any way, shape possible. and power and they're trying to maintain that in any way shape possible and that doesn't leave a lot of time for exploring the origins of mankind and then conspiring to keep it from the plebs i i agree with a lot of that okay the only pushback i have is when we take a look at like let's say how canada treated the indigenous people right so they went in there and they kind of made
Starting point is 02:20:23 these deals with people and then what they did did is they shipped their children off to schools away from the adults and the elders. And that made a disconnect. Well, they did that here too. Yeah. And it makes a disconnect from your heritage. And I think that's a big, big issue with the black community that was done to them. They never really were told how powerful they truly are. And like we mistake this thing, culture for heritage and heritage isn't your culture is not heritage. Your heritage is much different and your heritage is your lineage through you, your people through time.
Starting point is 02:20:58 And that allows you to get a running start in life. Right. And we're trying to erase their heritage. Yes. So that's what, that's what they did in the native Americans too. And they did to the black community as well. That is a common theme in cultures when they take over another culture, right? They make them assimilate to their laws and their gods and their way of living.
Starting point is 02:21:20 Yeah, with the Native Americans one of the things that was most demoralizing for the men was they cut all their hair off. You know, they would shave their heads. They would, you know, give them buzz cuts. And I was reading this book, one of, I think it's Black Elk Speaks. I think it's that one, about this guy going through that whole system and being alive during the time when the Native Americans roamed the plains. when the Native Americans roamed the plains. And being right there when it all got taken down, destroyed, and being alive when Sitting Bull,
Starting point is 02:21:55 that whole Little Bighorn thing went down, they killed Custer, all those Americans fucked up, and they came in, there was a giant super camp of Native Americans that have come together in union for the first time ever, and they slaughtered them. This guy was alive when all that happened. Oh my God. And then went on to be captured by the system and have to live on a reservation and the whole deal.
Starting point is 02:22:14 And these people that tell these stories about those times, it's no wonder why so many Native Americans are alcoholics and stuck on these reservations in horrible poverty. The whole thing was atrocious. It's a terrible moment in history when you think that that is how history was done over and over and over again. This is like what we're dealing with today with everybody being woke and super sensitive and over crazy is still way better than living, you know, as a Plains Indian in the 1800s and having all this shit happen to you.
Starting point is 02:22:51 Like all the things that are happening in society, even if they're questionable and even if they're problematic, at least for most people are moving in a better direction. Most people, I mean, even the people that want to be woke, like, why do they want to be woke? Like, what does that mean? Well, they want to be the most sensitive, the most inclusive, the most kind. So like their intentions are probably good. And then they get crazy with it. And then some people are like hyper-aggressive with it. Like, you know, the few percentage on each side.
Starting point is 02:23:17 Right. Whether it's the right-wing people that want to take down the Capitol. Yeah. Or the left-wing people that want to light the Capitol building on fire because, you know, you're not supporting trans women's rights to have babies in the bathroom at Kmart. Like, you know, whatever the fuck. TikTok dancing for gay Ukrainians get pregnant. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:32 Something like that. Ukrainian men. To have abortions. Yeah. The whole thing. 100%. It's like we're moving in a good direction. It's just I don't really believe that there's a mastermind behind it all.
Starting point is 02:23:43 I think there's people that capitalize on weakness and vulnerability. And during COVID, obviously, we were very vulnerable and the economy became very weak. And those are very dangerous scenarios for people that are used to capitalizing on moments when society is weak and divided and moments of economic strife. and divided in moments of economic strife, moments when they can control markets and control industries and figure out how to profit the most and how to eliminate certain competitors. You know, it's all scary shit, man, because economics does play a factor in how they make decisions that can affect the vast majority of us.
Starting point is 02:24:23 And the people that are profiting off of these decisions, it's a relatively small amount of people. Small group of people, man. Like, here's a question. Who owns the fucking oil in the ocean? And why do you get it? Who gets it? Who gets to pump that stuff?
Starting point is 02:24:37 Isn't that the world stuff? Yeah. Like, how do you own that? You don't own that part of land. Like, you can't own the ocean, right? The ocean is international waters, right? How many yards from the shore
Starting point is 02:24:51 are they allowed to pump and say, like, this is California's oil? At what point in time do they decide? I mean, I'm sure there's probably a law, but at what point in time do they decide that someone can own that? Because if you're going to sell oil that you got out of the ocean, first of all, you should give us a piece. Because sometimes you guys fuck up and it ruins the beach.
Starting point is 02:25:12 Well, I don't even know why when they fuck up, we got to pay for it. That's like going to a restaurant and they're like, hey, the cook fucked up your chicken. It's going to be another five bucks. You're like, what? We're not going to pay for it. Oil companies post record earnings, a sky high bracket. They're posting record earnings while the fucking... That's weird that they would
Starting point is 02:25:30 charge a lot for gas and make a lot of money. Yeah, it's crazy. Wow, what business model is that? 8.5 billion dollar profit for BP as prices soared during the Russia-Ukraine war. Wow. The world is ablaze and the oil industry just posted record profits. is it us or them
Starting point is 02:25:46 it's like hey is that a dick in my ass or a finger i just want to know what is happening it it's it's nuts have you started i also don't i also don't think there's a limited supply of oil i think it replenishes itself and you make it you make, oh, dude, we might run out. We might run out. We got to jack it up a little bit. It doesn't take a long fucking time to replenish? Yeah, I mean, it might, yeah. I mean, I think the idea is that it replenishes itself,
Starting point is 02:26:17 but the idea is that the supply might outstrip the demand. I don't think anybody's questioning whether or not the world will make more oil. I think the question is how much does it make, how long does it take to make enough that we need to drive, you know, fucking one of them badass Mustangs. Yeah. Well, is that why they
Starting point is 02:26:35 called it fossil fuel forever? Because it was like the notion that it was from dead dinosaurs, which was hilarious. I think it was, I think that's a misnomer. I think they think it's more dead plant material. I think that's a misnomer. I think they think it's more dead plant material. I think it's decaying plant material, if I remember correctly. See if that's the case. I don't think there's enough
Starting point is 02:26:52 dinosaurs. I think that was just like a silly way of thinking about it. I don't think they think I think it's a bunch of organic matter. A natural fuel such as coal or gas formed in geological paths from the remains of living organisms. But what kind of organisms?
Starting point is 02:27:07 Yeah, what kind of organisms? Is it mostly fossil fuel? Just Google fossil fuel is mostly plants. Plants and animals. And animals. Dead plants and animals that is extracted. Dead dinosaurs. I would imagine there's way more animals than plants. Yeah, what is the process of that?
Starting point is 02:27:23 I don't remember where I read that. But you remember it was like, peak oil is going to come. We're all in trouble. You're Yeah, what is the process of that? I don't remember where I read that. But you remember it was like, peak oil's going to come. We're all in trouble. You're like, what? But that's what- Decomposing- Fuck, I was going to tell you something.
Starting point is 02:27:34 I forgot it. Decomposing plants and animals. God damn it, what was I going to tell you? Fuck. I had it. It was a good one too i'll probably remember it in a moment i think it's interesting dude i think uh yeah i i don't know it's if it's one i think there's a lot of group of people but i think there is a push to not allow us to know
Starting point is 02:27:58 how special we are and that that really is a big part of what's everything going on and i think they really are doing that on purpose? Or do you think they're not thinking about that? I think they are. Do you think they're just thinking about trying to make a lot of money? Again, I think it's a spiritual war and it's being done purposefully. I could be wrong. I've been wrong about the first 48 years of my life.
Starting point is 02:28:21 Listen, it's an interesting theory. We should explore it. You don't have to have any. I mean get it you could be wrong which i'm fine with you get used to it after a while yeah um i just like when you study like there's this book called murder by injection and it was talking about uh how the um uh rockefellers and what they did to the medical, the health care industry. What the Rockefellers did? Yeah. What did they do? of like, it became the standard for the government's policies on health.
Starting point is 02:29:10 But in reality, it was more like just an organized crime family. What? Dude, study this stuff. Like, dude, you know what the weirdest thing is? Is they wage war on the chiropractic community. Oh, but that's probably a good thing. Let's go to this first. Murder by Injection, the story of the medical conspiracy against America, paperback, 391
Starting point is 02:29:34 ratings and five stars. The present work, result of some 40 years of investigative research, is a logical progression from my previous books, The Exposé of International Control of Monetary Issues and Banking Practices in the United States, a later work revealing that the secret network of organizations through which these alien forces wield political power, the secret committees, foundations, and political parties through which their hidden plans are implemented, and now the most vital issue of all, the manner in which these depredations affect the daily lives and health of American citizens, despite the great power of the hidden rulers.
Starting point is 02:30:11 Oh, boy, this guy. This is a run-on sentence from a guy that's on Adderall, son. This guy's on the good shit. He's on that, I need to write a book right now, Adderall. This is crazy. It's a great book. So you get into that, and then the other book is, I'm sure you know about, is Tragedy and Hope. But let's explore this.
Starting point is 02:30:31 So what do you played ball with them to get anything and get any funding going to be seen as legitimate. And they controlled it through that. And they ran out any holistic medicine or anything like that that wasn't involving a pill or the pharmaceutical companies or anything like that. Now, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not explaining it as well as it should be. No.
Starting point is 02:31:12 Don't be hard on yourself. You're doing an amazing job. You should be in front of Yale right now. The only way I'm going to be at Yale is if I'm a custodian. So, I mean, but basically they basically took over everything, defined. What is that, Jamie? You got something? That guy could be at Yale.
Starting point is 02:31:32 He's something super important. He seems very important. I was going to interview with the author. Oh, okay. He basically, they basically. I have no way of knowing yet. I have no way of knowing it. They basically took over and became the governing body of how the healthcare medical community is operated.
Starting point is 02:31:52 But doesn't somebody have to be the governing body? Don't they have to make sure that people don't get sold snake oil and fake medicine? Which is really great. Because people always had done that throughout history, right? 100%. But then that could easily be manipulated to go the other way so that you are buying snake oil and you are buying these things that maybe aren't the most healthiest for you when there's healthy options out there that
Starting point is 02:32:12 maybe someone can't make as much money off of. I will interject here. Okay go ahead. This is the author of the book. I believe him. It's Wikipedia. I believe him. Oh here we go with anti-semitism. I'm just saying this is what the Wikipedia says he is. He's an American white supremacist, anti-semitic, conspiracy theorist, propagandist, who that is, but hold on, in which he alleges that
Starting point is 02:32:45 several high-profile bankers had conspired to write the Federal Reserve Act for their own nefarious purposes and then included Congress to, and then what? No, not included. Enacted into law. Enacted into law. The Southern Poverty Law Center described them as a one-man organization of hate. The problem is the Southern Poverty Law Center, didn't they have a similar designation for Sam Harris? Wasn't there an issue where they called him an anti...
Starting point is 02:33:15 They called him something. I don't want to put words in their mouth. But there was a real issue with multiple people being accused of horrific offenses by them that they've been sued. They've sued people, of horrific offenses by them, that they've been sued. They've sued people, or people have sued them, rather. Well, if you look at ESG, right, which is environmental social governance, that is basically a new branding of what they call cultural Marxism.
Starting point is 02:33:37 And if you look up cultural Marxism, it will say it's anti-Semitic. Here, hold on a second. This guy wrote that he espoused anti-semitic views and expressed the belief that america owed a debt to hitler jesus yeah you might want to might want to look into these guys but that doesn't change sam it does change it changes a lot it changes the only source that you have for this wacky fucking theory no i mean it's a there's a there's other books i just haven't read them yet why is it so exciting for you to think that that's true? That
Starting point is 02:34:07 that's the case. Instead of that, people are messy, and that the American Medical Association was trying to figure out a way to govern and figure out what's real and what's not real, and have high standards in terms of what medications they accept and what physicians they accept, and then along the way, money compromises that.
Starting point is 02:34:24 Right. And then people start denying the use of certain medications because they're not profitable and pushing and propagandizing towards other medications. Right. And maybe not even also being deceptive and inaccurate about test results because they want to achieve a desired result that will be more profitable. Now, that's been proven to be true. Right.
Starting point is 02:34:44 That's been proven to be true with Vioxx. By who? Like the CDC, right? Well, I mean, this is like in court. The WHO and all that. That's simply the same thing I'm saying is just a modern day version of it, whether you take the CDC or the AMA. Sort of.
Starting point is 02:35:02 But what I'm saying is that the roots of it were not this nefarious plot to imprison Americans. The roots of it were most likely that they were trying to figure out what is legitimate medicine and what is not legitimate medicine. And that along the way, then nefarious people can compromise the system that's already in place for profit if they have some sort of a power system that allows them to dictate who gets funded and who doesn't. That is provable. Okay. That's real stuff.
Starting point is 02:35:32 And I totally agree with that, but I think that could be applied. That guy might be- Well, a broken clock could be right twice a day, right? I mean, like somebody could say some stupid shit. Or it might be he's out of his fucking mind. It can be, but I think there's a history that he just illustrated. And I could be wrong, and I'll take an L on that for sure. But why do you believe that there's a history of them manipulating stuff?
Starting point is 02:35:54 Because why do I believe that? Because you could do research into it and see what they're doing. I mean, if we just take a look at what's going on right now. Right now, I think, goes back to what we were talking about before, that certain people do get compromised by thoughts of profit. And whether it's people that are the head of pharmaceutical companies that are pushing some new medication that's going to be very, very profitable. Or whether it's the people that decide to fund certain research and not fund other research or rig studies or Also, like throw out bad studies. The thing is it's not transparent You know if they do like ten studies and they can do ten and throw out eight and find two of them that show a good
Starting point is 02:36:36 Result and they could say we got a good result and the way they can describe these results is like really sneaky And this is what they get busted for. And this is why we found out that they lied about opiates being addictive when they were pushing Oxycontin and Oxycodone and all that shit. I mean, there's a direct paper trail. It shows they were deceptive. You know, and this is what they've done. Like big corporations have done this forever. Have you seen, what is it called?
Starting point is 02:37:03 Dope? Is that what? Dope Sick. Dope Sick. I haven't seen it. You haven't seen it? Everybody tells me it's sick. I have done this forever. Have you seen, what is it called, Dope? Is that what- Dope Sick. Dope Sick. I haven't seen it. You haven't seen it? No. Everybody tells me it's sick.
Starting point is 02:37:08 I have to watch it. I mean, in a good way. It is the exact playbook that they ran. Well, that's about the opiates, right? Right. Yeah. That's real. So that's my whole opinion.
Starting point is 02:37:20 Like, maybe that guy's an idiot and I hate anybody who is like, this group is doing this. I don't think it's like a born in group or anything like that. But I do believe people conspire. I think they do too. This is where you and I share. But I'm trying to look at it like objectively. Right. The problem with conspiracies and conspiracy theories is they're fucking fun.
Starting point is 02:37:43 Yeah. I love them. Yeah. I love Bigfoot and UFOs and ghosts and Hitler. I love hearing all this crazy shit like Hitler was conspiring with demons and- What? Cult magic, bro. Also like that maybe Hitler lived and moved to Argentina.
Starting point is 02:37:57 How about that? You don't believe that? You know that one? Oh, I don't know. Tim Kennedy was the one who filled me in on that. And everybody goes, that's crazy. Tim Kennedy was the one who filled me in on that. And everybody goes, that's crazy.
Starting point is 02:38:10 Do you folks know that there is a giant thriving German community in Argentina? And some of them have fucking, like, this is grandpappy. Like, it's an SS soldier wearing his fucking uniform on the wall of their house. Like, Tim Kennedy described going to these places and seeing these people. They have Oktoberfest down there. Have you ever seen that? Yeah. Bro, it is a fact. Okay, I is a fact that a bunch of Nazis escaped Nazi Germany
Starting point is 02:38:28 and went to South America, right? I don't think the Nazis lost the war. I think Germany lost the war. This is Oktoberfest in Argentina. How nuts is that? That is nuts. Nuts. There's that many Germans down there. Look at these people.
Starting point is 02:38:43 They got the lederhosen. Yeah, dude. Isn't that crazy? They got the old school dress and the bagpipes and shit. That's wild, dude. That is. Secret German village in the middle of Argentina. Like, bro. Now, Google this.
Starting point is 02:38:59 Did Nazis escape Germany and move to Argentina? That whole... Now, you got to remember also, 1947, the way you get information is books and newspapers. Right. That's it. You know? In Argentine haven for fugitive Nazis, Jesus, one more time. In Argentine haven for fugitive Nazis, April means chocolate eggs and Hitler parties. 20 years after the capture of Eric, how do you say his name?
Starting point is 02:39:32 Pribecki. Pribecki. In some Baralosh are trying to come to terms with the city's legacy of silence. How do you say that word? Baralosh? Some? Baralosh? Summon Baralosh? So most likely that's what that is. Do you think that's crazy?
Starting point is 02:39:54 Have you ever seen- Whoa, whoa, whoa. Go back up to the top. Well, no, no, no. Scroll to the first paragraph. What does it say here? A little boy, Hans Schulz, the blue-eyed son of a Hitler youth member, would walk uphill half a block each afternoon from the German school to his white stucco house in the Argentine ski resort of Barolos. Steps from an icy lake hugged by Andean peaks. side, he'd often find his dad, the president of the town's German-Argentinian Culture
Starting point is 02:40:25 Association, sitting with his vice president and close friend, an austere, well-respected delicatessen owner named Eric Pribic. This is wild shit, man. Yeah, dude. Scroll down a little further. Does it say anything else that's notable? Yeah, it's very not. Very. Oh oh hold on a second hold here we go last october privy k died in rome where he spent his final years under house arrest serving a life sentence for his role in carrying out the massacre
Starting point is 02:40:58 of 335 civilians at the ardietine caves in 1944 when he was a captain in the Nazi SS. But from 1946, when he was smuggled to Argentina, until 1994, when the TV journalist Sam Donaldson confronted him on a Bariloche, I hope I'm not fucking up that word, Bariloche Street, Pribyke lived a comfortable, if fabricated life in this Bavarian-styled city at the bottom of the world. Holy shit, dude.
Starting point is 02:41:30 When I looked into the Operation Paperclip, they didn't all come to America. Some went to Russia. Some went elsewhere. Have you ever looked into Huntsville, Alabama? That's wild, though. That's wild. No, I haven't looked into Huntsville, Alabama. What's Huntsville, Alabama? What? Dude, they. That's wild. No, I haven't looked into Huntsville, Alabama. What's Huntsville, Alabama?
Starting point is 02:41:46 What? Dude, they have- Jamie's excited. I've seen it. I know where he's going with this. Yeah. Tell me. Dude, they have an arena named after a Nazi.
Starting point is 02:41:55 Von Braun. Like, and in a- Oh, you mean Werner Von Braun? Yeah. Yeah. That's an interesting one, right? That's a really interesting one. Werner Von Braun, who was the head of the National- Can I do a joke for you real quick? Yeah, please. Okay. Yeah. That's an interesting one, right? That's a really interesting one. Werner Von Braun, who was the head of the National.
Starting point is 02:42:06 Can I do a joke for you real quick? Yeah, please. Okay. Please. A Nazi, a Scientologist, no, a Nazi, a Nazi, a Scientologist, a pedophile, and a Nazi. You want some time? I don't know, a Satanist. Let's try it from the beginning.
Starting point is 02:42:22 Okay. Take it from the top. Ready? A Nazi, a Satanist, a pedophile, and a Scientologist walk into a bar. What do they do? What do they do? Invent NASA. NASA.
Starting point is 02:42:35 The horrible story of NASA is that NASA was constructed with people from Operation Paperclip, which was Nazi scientists. Not just people that were working under Nazi Germany, but people actively practiced as Nazis. The Simon Wiesenthal Center, Google this, make sure it's true because I keep saying it. At one point in time, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, I believe, said that if Wernher von Braun was alive today, they would prosecute him for crimes against humanity. Yeah. Because people claimed that he had hung the five slowest Jews in front of his rocket factory in Berlin. That would encourage people to work faster. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:43:19 Now, that part, I don't know if it's true, so we should probably find that out or edit it out. But I've said it so many times. I know I've read it. I know I read it. And I know why- Well, you're not pushing books by anti-smack, so you look good on this. I know I watched a documentary where a guy who was a concentration camp survivor remembered seeing Wernher von Braun at the camps or at the rocket factory rocket factory but that that's a it's a fact that they use Jews as slave labor it's a fact right yeah it's tragic and it's scary shit that they brought those people over and they knew they were Nazis and they also had those dueling scars in their face this is the
Starting point is 02:44:01 Wiesenthal centers was it about the U.S. Nazis. Right. This was an interesting part. The United States record on this issue can basically be divided into four periods. During the first, which lasted from the end of the war in 1945 until approximately 1948, the U.S. government played a major role in the prosecution of senior Nazi officials at the Nuremberg trials and of other criminals in additional proceedings, some of which were held in former concentration camps during the second period from 1948 until approximately 1953. The exact opposite happened.
Starting point is 02:44:40 With the Cold War already underway, the U.S. lost interest in actively pursuing Nazi war criminals, preferring to build up West Germany as a bulwark against communism and therefore adopting a far more lenient attitude towards former Nazis, some of whom were enlisted as intelligence sources or rocket scientists. Their criminal Nazi past ignored. Equally appalling was the fact that during these years, US immigration authorities allowed entry into the United States as refuge to thousands of the worst of Hitler's East European henchmen. That's true. That's scary shit,
Starting point is 02:45:19 dude. The Nuremberg trial. Scroll up, scroll up. Look at this. Holocaust crimes, however, could not be prosecuted in the United States as they had been committed overseas. And their victims were not Americans at the time of the crimes they committed. So instead, Nazi criminals were prosecuted for immigration and naturalization violations. That is, for concealing their wartime past. and naturalization violations, that is, for concealing their wartime past. Although Spier would be a cop-out of sorts,
Starting point is 02:45:51 when announced the decision yielded relatively successful results, the good news was that it was relatively easy to win such cases compared to war crimes prosecutions. The downside was that the punishments, denaturalization and deportation, were often grotesquely incommensurate with the crimes. Does it say anything about Werner Von Braun? I didn't get anything specifically about him. But just Google Werner Von Braun was a Nazi. Let's see that.
Starting point is 02:46:14 Well, I mean, they would talk about for like the longest time up until almost the 80s or early 90s. Like in Huntsville, you weren't allowed to talk about how he was a Nazi. You'd have to be because everyone was like convincing themselves like he didn't want to do it and stuff like that think about those times Man think about 47 where you know when they were doing all this or 48 when they're bringing all these guys over here How would anybody find out how would anybody find out that the head of NASA was a fucking Nazi? His Nazi record was not widely known until after his death. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:47 Right. Oh, we did not know what he did. Yeah. We had no idea. Yeah. Huntsville, Alabama. Wernher von Braun received an unpleasant surprise. A West German court asked him to testify
Starting point is 02:46:59 in the trial of three former SS men from the Mittelbau-Durra concentration camp, which had supplied slave labor for the production of the V-2 ballistic missile. Von Braun had been the technical director of that project and visited the associated Mittelwerk factory a dozen times. Now the head of the center that managed the gigantic Saturn V moon rocket, he was afraid the attendant publicity would damage his reputation and that of NASA. He tried to beg off, but in the end spoke to the judge and the court at the West German
Starting point is 02:47:35 Consulate in New Orleans on February 7th, 1969. He denied any personal responsibility and put as much distance as he could between his, say that word, Penemunde Rocket Development Center and the Middleware Complex. Yeah, man. It's crazy. That's wild shit, dude. Crazy. Crazy.
Starting point is 02:48:02 The military did the same with von Braun's SS officer rank and Nazi records of more than 100 associates who had come to the U.S. with him. Wow. Jesus Christ. But I guess they felt like we were in a cold war with Russia and we have two choices. Either lose the war because the Russians get the Nazis or we get the Nazis like that's some shit that you have to do and it sounds horrible and it is horrible but so is war and so is losing a nuclear war to the Russians right and if these motherfuckers are making weapons and and and fucking superior jet engines and all kinds of crazy shit the Germans were doing
Starting point is 02:48:45 and making rockets. They were very advanced with rocketry. Those crazy motherfuckers, they had to grab them. That's what's sick. What's sick is it was probably the thing to do. Because if Russians got all of them, can you imagine if the Russians got all the Nazis?
Starting point is 02:49:01 Come on over here, we got you. We got you, bro. What do you want? A palace? Hey, you got a fucking palace. Set them up. You want some hot Russian ladies to keep company with you? Are you designing the next fucking apocalypse weapon that's going to destroy everything? Let's get all the greatest fucking scientists that you got. Come on over. Have you ever heard of Tartaria?
Starting point is 02:49:23 Tartaria? You've never heard of Tartaria? Oh, it's like my favorite thing. Come on over. Have you ever heard of Tartaria? Tartaria? You've never heard of Tartaria? I love this. Sam is always... He's always... I don't want to get too weird on you. I guess we already did, but... Yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:33 Tartaria. Three hours into too weird, son. There's this belief that there's been a hidden empire wiped from our history books, and it's Tartaria. When was it around? It was a shipping empire that was around up until maybe the 1800s. What?
Starting point is 02:50:01 Yeah, and it was wiped out of the history books. And I love the idea. I love it. Sounds exciting. Where did they wipe it out of? Where was it, supposedly? Out of Russia. It was Russia? Yeah, it was out of Russia.
Starting point is 02:50:10 And it was very advanced. Have you looked into this? Yeah, of course. As much as you looked into that guy being a Nazi? Well, I didn't look. I read his book. Okay, here it is. Tartari.
Starting point is 02:50:25 Look up Tartarian Empire. Tartaria, there it is. Something comes up. Tatari. Look up Tatari and Empire. Tataria, there it is. Asia, Tataria. Well, before we get into that, have you ever looked into like... Oh, wait a minute. They seem to say it's real. That was a real place, Sam. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:50:38 Someone said like a UFC fighter said he was from Tataria. Maybe. There's hard fucking people in that part of the world. Oh, yeah, dude. Let's see what it says. What is Tartaria about? It's talking about... It's a...
Starting point is 02:50:50 Is there an article that doesn't look like... The problem with Wikipedia is my eyes suck. I can't read it. I'll go with the conspiracy theory. Sure. Okay. That's the fun shit. Grand Tartaria.
Starting point is 02:51:00 Grand Tartaria. Lost land or civilization originated in Russia. With aspects first appearing in Anatoly Formenko's... New chronology and then popularized in the racial cult history of Nikolai Lavoshov. Russian pseudoscience known for its nationalism. Tartaria is presented as the real name for Russia, which was maliciously ignored in the West. But it also says it's a deep... Oh, shit. But it's basically that there is this shipping empire
Starting point is 02:51:30 that went all over the world. Imagine if you're on the beach in the Maldives and you see some hard-ass-looking Russian gangster with Tartaria tattooed on his back. Yeah. Like, oh, no. You're like, fuck, bro. I got to get out of here.
Starting point is 02:51:42 But they're also known to be giants, dude. This is the Great Pyramids and the White House are remnants of Tartarian buildings. Dude, that's the crazy thing, man. And the White House? Well, as long as it's the White House, too. Now I believe. Also Penn Station. What the fuck are you talking about, Sam?
Starting point is 02:51:59 Or the original Penn Station in New York. Have you ever looked into the conspiracies involving the World Fair? Like the Chicago World Fair? So they basically said they built this World Fair in like two years, and if you ask actual architects, they would go just the design would take 15
Starting point is 02:52:18 years, and the build it would take forever. And they said that they built it in two years and then knocked it all down. Bang. Gone. What did it look like? It's like the conspiracies of the World Fair. It looks like the Vatican.
Starting point is 02:52:35 So this is what they built and then they knocked it all down? They said they built all this in two years. Whoa. They built that in two years? That's what they said. And then they knocked it all down. What? Okay, we're going to have to dive into this one.
Starting point is 02:52:50 Because did they really knock it all down? Yeah. Why would they do that? This is in Chicago? Yes. So they built all this and then they demolished it? Yep. What remains of the 1893 Chicago World's Fair today. So why did they do that?
Starting point is 02:53:08 Are you asking me? Yeah. Because they're erasing history. Why would they want to erase something they built? That's a whole different thing. I feel like I'm providing a much needed service with your thought process on these things. Thank you. I think someone needs to go, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 02:53:30 Yeah. The interesting thing about this World's Fair, I think this was the Tesla Edison one where they were about to like AC, DC power was a really big thing. Right. Look at that. They said they built that in two years, dude. All the structures, the sculptures and everything? Yeah. How many people?
Starting point is 02:53:46 Did they build all those buildings? That's what they're saying. So why would they knock those down? They knock those down? Are those like sets, like when you go to Universal Studios and there's no building behind it? Not that I know of, man. Oh, my God. Why don't you Google why they demolish?
Starting point is 02:54:03 I was hoping it would be in this thing. Let's just Google that. Why those Tatars? Let's Google, just if you could indulge me, please Google why did they demolish the Chicago World Fair. What do you think? What do you think it's going to say? I'll tell you.
Starting point is 02:54:18 Some propaganda by them, right? It's to erase history, bro. But why would they want to erase something that we know about? But if we know that they did that But why would they want to race something that we know about? But if we know that they did that, why would we want to race that? Because the Tartarians had very advanced technology like giant organs that could heal you through sound. Have you ever heard of that? Organs like musical organs? Yeah, like Phantom of the Opera shit.
Starting point is 02:54:42 It would heal you through sound? Through sound. Free energy, that's a big part of it. Free energy. Free energy. Yeah. What do you mean by free energy? That they could harness energy.
Starting point is 02:54:52 Oh, like Tesla type? Yeah. Like harness electricity through the air? Yeah. Yeah. You know, they had said that if he had done that, if Tesla had done that, it probably would have fucked the whole computer revolution. For good or bad?
Starting point is 02:55:04 For bad. It wouldn't have worked. All the electricity in the air would be frying all the devices. But then, I would think, wouldn't they be able to make... Oh, so there was a fire. Giant fire. Convenient. Oh, yeah. Convenient. Fire licked up a large part of the...
Starting point is 02:55:18 Well, let's say they were experimenting with electricity for the first time, and it causes a massive fire. What a shocker. Yeah. Well, don't you think maybe they didn't know what the fuck they were doing, Sam? For three hours, the flames raged along the past end of the Court of Honor until nothing was left but charred timbers
Starting point is 02:55:35 and blackened plaster. A shower of sparks fell upon the ice in the lagoon until it looked like a sea of fire. They fell upon the adjacent buildings, threatening them with destruction. it was a magnificent spectacle that drew ceaseless examine exclamations of wonder and awe from the spectators that crowded the grounds in the vicinity of the fire it was the greatest pyrotechnic display of the fair interesting fire but hold on sam but it's him but the destruction did not end with the burning of these buildings.
Starting point is 02:56:08 Firebrands were carried to the roof of the manufacturer's building, and the promenade around the crown of that enormous structure was soon on fire. The wind was strong, and the flame soon reached the immense wooden ventilators under the eaves. They were soon burning fiercely. The story under the roof was in a blaze. It sounded like a horrible fire, Sam. Yeah. But why would you think someone would start this on purpose?
Starting point is 02:56:34 To destroy it. But would you think that it would be possible that the winds were really strong and an actual accidental fire that happens all the time broke out, and it destroyed those buildings. Because they were experimenting with electricity. What caused the fires? Do they know what caused the fires? Did they have arson inspectors back then? It's very interesting, dude, because you go through a lot of these big cities, and you kind of see this weird kind of ancient architecture.
Starting point is 02:57:05 of these big cities and you kind of see this weird kind of ancient architecture and then it's surrounded by modern architecture and it just the two don't match at all one is like very advanced like stuff we don't see anymore and now this new stuff and it's just like it's really mind-blowing and you see a lot of this stuff especially when you go to the smaller cities like they went around and got rid of a lot of stuff in the bigger cities and they didn't bother to deal with the smaller cities. Listen to this, the Panama Pacific International exposition proved so popular and profitable that long before its closing proposals were made to save... Closing proposals were made to save, oh, long before its closing, proposals were being made to save all or part of it. Architect Willis Polk, in particular, lobbied heavily for the preservation of the Palace of Fine Arts, the Palace of Horticulture, South and North Gardens, and the Avenue of Palms. Christian Molgaert told the Commonwealth Club that when the exposition buildings are torn down, then we will have destroyed one of the greatest architectural units which has ever been created in the history of the world. speculative forces proved far stronger than the dream however and the arches and towers were brought down in clouds of colored plaster revealing their fall the underlying lath framework the south
Starting point is 02:58:32 gardens were scrapped clean of paintings fountains fountains and sculpture and small buildings were moved to the waterfront and barged throughout the bay area the north North Gardens, Marina Gray, Marina Green rather, and Yacht Harbor remained a gift of the exposition along with the Column of Progress with its adventurous bowmen at the end of South Street until the 1920s. It succumbed to automotive collisions and was pulled down.
Starting point is 02:59:02 Huh. This was the 1915 World Fair in San Francisco a similar thing out there Will you do me a favor and hold on go back to that and Google? The adventurous bowman at the end of South Street. What is that? So that was the last thing that remained What did that look like? See if you like images So there it is. It's a statue, yeah. So it's a statue.
Starting point is 02:59:27 And so too many people hit the guy with the bow and arrow, and that was the last thing remaining. Now, it sounds fucked that they would tear that stuff down, but, you know, I'm open to the idea that some idiot owned the land or someone wanted to do something else with it, and they decided to destroy it and build new shit there you don't think so like after a fire you think that they would have decided to preserve it what if preserving it would cost a shitload of money for two separate
Starting point is 02:59:55 events two separate events the fires were in Chicago at that was pre-1900 what is that was 20 years later in the San Francisco World Fair that was what you were showing me right there oh I, I thought it was the same World Fair. Nope, nope, nope. So there's two World Fairs that caught fire. No, no. One of them they just destroyed. This one, yeah, this one says they destroyed it.
Starting point is 03:00:12 For no reason. I don't, that's where, I don't, we didn't get there yet. So you think they did it because they want to hide history? Yeah. You're not even high. Is it possible? Tell me what you think of that high. Is it possible? Tell me what you think of that. Which one is this?
Starting point is 03:00:29 That's the one that's got caffeine. That's the Ignite. Yeah, dude. That's 150 milligrams of clean caffeine, baby. Spicy pineapple. It's good, dude. That's my shit, son. I helped design that one.
Starting point is 03:00:43 It's my idea. Okay, so this remains remains that's pretty dope let's see here's the building like you don't see anymore it's like this weird architecture that's true isn't surrounded by anything around it and it's and it's like so what do you mean so this gets into this gets into something you talk about like mud floods too like yeah but this stuff is like happened during about, like mud floods, too. Yeah, but this stuff has happened during modern history. They know about this. They know who built it.
Starting point is 03:01:12 Pretty amazing. That's in San Francisco. Okay, it's still there. So look at that. Scroll back down there. It says nine amazing examples of World's Fair architecture still stand today. And look how dope that looks. Go back to that picture again.
Starting point is 03:01:26 But they knocked down a lot. I'm sure they did, but that's because people are assholes. Yeah. I don't think there's a grand conspiracy to knock. I mean, I could be wrong, but I'm looking at it. I'll take that as a win. Take it as a win. Take that W, Sam. The world is very interesting, brother.
Starting point is 03:01:44 Why would they try to hide their ability to create awesome structures? Because if you're asking me, Joe, everything is about trying not to let us know how special we really are. Keep going back to that. I don't know what you mean.
Starting point is 03:01:59 That we are powerful beings. And the way they do that is by knocking down that. By not letting us know our history, by rewriting history, by flooding us with- But who would do that? Low frequency shit? Well, I think we flood ourselves with low frequency shit. I think that's the problem, is that we gravitate towards low frequency shit, and low frequency shit becomes profitable.
Starting point is 03:02:23 Right. Right? low frequency shit and low frequency shit becomes profitable. Right. Right. Well, it's just becomes like before the internet, like we,
Starting point is 03:02:30 we only had a few kinds of, a few different kinds of ways to get stuff. Right. And they, and the, and these people controlled all that, whether it was like, just think about all the stuff that people were able to get away with before the internet was here. And we could like people do their own research and stuff like that. And the control
Starting point is 03:02:45 features. Like if you Dude that's a, you look at the Vatican, that I don't know, it's like what is that? I went to the Vatican on an edible Oh my god! Oh my god The stuff you must have seen and felt and Yeah because edible is a good thing to do because it lasts
Starting point is 03:03:01 a long time, you know, that's a good you smoke a joint, you're going to be normal in 20 minutes. You don't want that. You want to be riding that cannabis wave for a while and soaking in the history of that place. And what did you think while you were there? It's wild. It's so much art. It's fucking insane.
Starting point is 03:03:17 You want to go, where did you get all this? How is this all yours? Don't you want to get in that library? Just like, let me see what's in there, dude. What do they have? What is in there? What do they have? Did you ever read The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross?
Starting point is 03:03:30 No, I haven't. You need to read that. I will. It's a great book about this guy, John Marco Allegro, who deciphered the Dead Sea Scrolls. He was on the committee for 14 years, worked on the Dead Sea Scrolls. And his conclusion was the entire Bible was all a misunderstanding. It was really about psychedelic mushrooms and fertility cults.
Starting point is 03:03:49 It's a wild book. Supposedly, the Catholic Church bought it up, but it's in print again now. Oh, really? Yeah. I love those dangerous books. I got old copies of it. I got used copies of it from when it was first released.
Starting point is 03:04:04 I have two copies of it. Okay. It's copies of it from when it was first released. I have two copies of it Oh, yeah, it's a fascinating book because if the guy was right It's crazy The thing about it is that there's for sure in a lot of ancient religious artwork There's depictions of mushrooms for sure Yeah And for sure they thought that if they ate a mushroom and tripped balls, they probably thought they'd stumbled upon some gift from God, some magic, something that reaffirmed
Starting point is 03:04:31 all of their beliefs in the world. Just like the people that thought witches were real. They did the LSD bread and they fucking tripped balls and killed all the witches. Those people probably, when they were consuming mushrooms, they probably thought that God had given them this fucking amazing gift to communicate with him. And they had to hide that information in any way, shape, or form. And so they did it in stories. And they hid the meanings in allegories and in all these different.
Starting point is 03:04:58 This was John Marco Allegro's belief. And that he broke down the word Christ. He traced it back to an ancient Sumerian word that meant a mushroom covered in God's semen. Really? And what they believed is that when it rained, you got to remember, infant mortality back then is very high. Are we talking space bukkake right now?
Starting point is 03:05:18 Yeah, space bukkake, exactly. But God's space bukkake. But infant mortality back then was really high, right? And they wanted to make as many people as possible. Otherwise, there wouldn't be any people. These people were actively practicing fertility rituals, and they were trying to get pregnant, and it was a really important thing.
Starting point is 03:05:36 So they had rituals they would do to try to get pregnant, and they also had this ancient use of psychedelic mushrooms. So when it rained, all of a sudden these mushrooms would appear. Like, you know what it's like when you go out in your yard and it was raining and then you'll see mushrooms. Like, they weren't there yesterday. Well, they would go out and see these things and then they would eat them. And they would trip their fucking balls off.
Starting point is 03:05:57 And it made sense that they thought that God had given this, like, that God came upon the earth and that this mushroom from would allow you to talk to God. And they would try to hide this shit from conquering armies. So they hid it in stories. I believe all that. And I also think that, you know, the Vatican has a real interesting role in like the interpretation of the Bible and what the Bible represents and how they try to make it like literal instead of like a spiritual thing and you know i mean if you kind of take a look at like saint patty's day right you ever study
Starting point is 03:06:30 saint patty's day and what it really is it's like so it's like you know saint patty's day is basically saint uh uh who was it uh patrick is sent into ireland to rid the snakes. That is it, right? But the truth is, I don't think there's snakes in Ireland. And what they're actually talking about are pagans. And it's actually a story of genocide, dog. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:06:56 That's what St. Paddy's Day is all about. No. Yeah. I think Ireland- Maybe there used to be snakes. I think it was too- St. Paddy's Day was successful. Yeah, he just got them all out.. Maybe there used to be snakes. I think it was too. St. Patrick's Day was successful. Yeah, he just got them all out.
Starting point is 03:07:06 Killed them all. Killed all the snakes. He's just going around killing like gardener snakes. Sirens fucking snakes, man. Yeah, I think it had to do with pagans. And pagan, so then you get into something called eagle versus serpent. Have you ever heard of that story? No, but let's start with St. Patrick's Day and work our way to eagle versus serpent.
Starting point is 03:07:23 Okay, that's interesting. Jamie's like, what about it? Can't follow this chaos. No, I am. I'm like, well, what do you want me to look up? Okay, St. Patrick's Day was really about pagans. That part is not. That'd be harder to find out, but there were not snakes there.
Starting point is 03:07:40 Okay, it says, did St. Patrick really drive snakes out of Ireland? The stuff of legend, the reptiles never existed on the Emerald Isle. Um, St. Patrick's day. Oh, you son of a bitch. Enter your email to continue reading. You son of a bitch. Yeah. What are you doing? Trying to get us. It's your fucking mailing list. It's too cold. It's too cold. For snakes. Right. Right., right. So maybe it was just like a way they had to explain why there's no snakes there. Which gets into this thing called eagle versus serpent. And we'll get into it, but those are symbolisms, right? The eagle represents authority and power.
Starting point is 03:08:20 Oh. That's why you see it on all these flags. The eagle represents, the serpent represents knowledge Mmm and knowledge is power and so and an ancient knowledge so like when they talk about serpents, they're talking about pagans and And we have a negative connotation what pagan is in this country because we assume it's like witches and stuff like that But we assume it's kids with asshole stepdads right goth kids they're really in the anime right right right smoking cigarettes in high school yelling at
Starting point is 03:08:56 about yeah that's what they think it's not man it's not it's about basically a cult like well paganism was the existing religion that Christianity kind of incorporated right didn't they incorporate a lot of their holidays Basically a cult. Well, paganism was the existing religion that Christianity kind of incorporated, right? Didn't they incorporate a lot of their holidays coincided with pagan rituals? Yes. Like Jesus's birthday and all that stuff. To bring people in. Some modern pagans refuse to observe a day which honors the elimination of an old religion in favor of a new one.
Starting point is 03:09:21 And wear a snake symbol on St. Patrick's Day. favor of a new one and wear a snake symbol on St. Patrick's Day. The idea that St. Patrick physically drove the pagans from Ireland is inaccurate. What he did do was facilitate the spread of Christianity. That sounds like a very cleaned up version of it. That sounds like somebody's PR person came in. Well, read this off it. That's not quite what we did. Killed, drove, same thing.
Starting point is 03:09:48 People have a distorted version of history, apparently. We were trying to spread Christianity, which is, of course, the real true word of God. Right. Patrick, the patron saint of Ireland, was born in Britain, not Ireland, near the end of the 4th century. At age 16, he was kidnapped by Irish raiders and sold as a slave to a Celtic priest in Northern Ireland. Whoa. After toiling for six years as a shepherd, he escaped back to Britain.
Starting point is 03:10:14 Yo. So it's a real person in the fourth century? Is that a real? Yeah. Which now explains why he wanted to go back and whoop ass, right? What? There were no snakes. Okay, we get that.
Starting point is 03:10:29 So snake was, okay. Leprechauns are likely based on Celtic figures. Leprechauns are based on mushrooms. And you can eat mushrooms and meet leprechauns. Yeah, for sure. That's what the elves are. I mean, everybody has their own version of it, but there's like little things that you meet
Starting point is 03:10:45 when you do mushrooms. They must have had mushrooms. They had cattle. They always had mushrooms. And they had moisture, right? They had a lot of moisture. So, like, I know Europe had mushrooms. A lot of... Mexico has a lot of mushrooms. That's where Gordon Wasson,
Starting point is 03:11:03 I think his name was, who first started writing about psychedelic mushrooms. I think it was in Life Magazine. Gordon Wasson, Google that. And he was a guy that like sort of first started describing psychedelic mushroom effects in like modern publications. This was back before it was illegal. Mushrooms weren't even made illegal in America until 1970. It was cocaine was for the longest time. Yeah. Seeking the Magic Mushroom is a 1957 photo essay by amateur mycologist Robert Gordon Wasson describing his experiences taking psilocybin mushrooms in 1955 during a Mazatec ritual in, how do you say that?
Starting point is 03:11:48 Oaxaca, Mexico. Oaxaca. That's a beautiful name. Yeah, that is a great name. It's a dope name. You want to get weird in Oaxaca. So he wrote it in the book, but didn't he do something in Life magazine? There was something that was in a mainstream publication. Yeah, Life,
Starting point is 03:12:06 that's it. Life Series of Great Adventures by R. Gordon Wasson. Yeah, there it is. Okay. Interesting. Mushrooms are life changers, man. And I think that human beings have been eating them forever. And I think based on Brian Murrow Rescue's work with that book, The Immortality Key, which I can't recommend enough. It's a wild book. The Immortality Key. Yeah, you would love it. All right, I'll buy it.
Starting point is 03:12:32 It's wild. I got a thousand books to read. I have them all at home. It's also based on very hard evidence. They have the vessels that these people drank wine out of, and they found ergot in these vessels. that these people drank wine out of, and they found ergot in these vessels.
Starting point is 03:12:46 The liberty cap and the fly agaric, which is fly agaric is, I think it's a type of amanita muscaria mushroom, grow in Ireland and are both believed to produce visions of fairies and leprechauns. Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner, along with a variety of other world creatures associated with Ireland.
Starting point is 03:13:00 Fairies and mushrooms have always been a big part of Irish culture and are deeply intertwined in culture. In fact, the Gaelic slang for fairies and mushrooms is the same word I'll say that again The Gaelic slang for fairies and mushrooms is the same word the word is Pookies Pookies and I that's what we should do Pookies We should do Pookies. That's what we're gonna call it from now on.
Starting point is 03:13:23 Is that what they call it? Math pipes and crack pipes are Pookies? Do they? Yeah, I think that's what they call them, pookies. We should do pookies. That's what we're going to call it from now on. Isn't that what they call it? That's what we're going to call it. Math pipes and crack pipes are pookies? Do they? Yeah, I think that's what they call them. I don't know that. See, that's what they always do. But hold on. Before we do that, before we do that, we'll go to that. I promise.
Starting point is 03:13:34 In Ireland, the trip one goes from magic mushrooms described as going away with the fairies, being off with the pixies. In pagan times, imbasphrosni were psychedelic poets. The poets spoke of eating the red flesh of a pig, dog, or cat, which is believed to be in reference to the fly augeric, because that mushroom is red with white. It looks like Santa Claus, which is another fucking conspiracy. Oh, yeah, for sure. The poets chewed on this red flesh of a pig before lying in a dark room to seek out inspiration. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:14:11 Bingo. Yeah, dude. We have a winner. They were tripper. Yeah. You eat mushrooms going to some cave and just trip balls. It's all about tripping. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:14:19 Everybody tripped. I think that was a giant part of most cultures until the power cultures eradicated it. And that's the story of the immortality key. Must be Southern California thing, but pookie means a tweak pipe. Oh, wow. They're also called crack pipes. Wow. Pookie.
Starting point is 03:14:38 Wow. That's crazy. Damn, dude. That's crazy. It went from being something that allows you to connect with leprechauns to a crack pipe. That's what they always do. They take it and they invert it, dude, all the time. Wow. That's crazy. It is crazy, dude.
Starting point is 03:14:53 Or there was like a dude named Pookie who was a fucking crackhead. Who just got weird all the time. He was such a crackhead. They named the pipe after him. A legendary crackhead. He was the best crackhead ever. He was the Cheech and Chong of crackheads. I don't know. In Austin, if, like, ma'am, this is how I know I'm old. Like, I didn't do my drugs out in the public now.
Starting point is 03:15:14 I mean, dude, you drive around, people smoking meth. I like to walk around Hollywood and just look for danger, right? Really? Oh, yeah. Just so I could talk about it. Oh, that's right. You're a crime fighter. Yeah, on my podcast, so I could just talk about what I saw.
Starting point is 03:15:30 Really? So you go to bad places just to walk around? Yeah, I'll walk around just to see what I could find. You're a fucking investigative journalist. I am. I'm a Dick Joe comic investigative reporter. And, dude, I was on Hollywood Boulevard one day and like Hollywood Boulevard now is like
Starting point is 03:15:50 straight out taxi driver, dude. It's the same kind of it's really like gritty gritty dark energy. And you just walk around. And there's still tourists. And there's still tourists. Just wandering the streets. So this is the-
Starting point is 03:16:05 Meh, just wandering the streets. So the tourist company that's in charge of the Hollywood Tourist Board was bragging that Hollywood Boulevard was voted top 100 tourist spots to go to. But what they never told you, it was number 100 out of the 100 that they were to... What was number 99? I have no clue, but it was voted number... Paul Revere's house.
Starting point is 03:16:33 Yeah, something like that. Something like that. Dude, you ever hear about what Ben Franklin was? Okay, that's a different story, but... What did he do? You never heard that, like, what he was found in... They found in his house? No. Like
Starting point is 03:16:45 tons of bodies, bro. What? Ben Franklin, they found tons of bodies in his... Ben Franklin was a serial killer? No, he was like doing some weird shit, dude. Like experimenting with bodies? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is this real? Everything I
Starting point is 03:17:01 say. Was Ben Franklin's basement filled with skeletons? Rep Was Ben Franklin's basement filled with skeletons. Repairs on Franklin's old London house turned up 1,200 pieces of bone from at least 15 people. Holy shit. For nearly two decades. By the way, this is from the Smithsonian. This is not some wacky conspiracy site. This ain't samtripleE.com.
Starting point is 03:17:26 For nearly two decades leading up to the signing of the Declaration of Independence, Benjamin Franklin lived in London in a house on 36 Craven Street. In 1776, Franklin left his English home to come back to America. More than 200 years later, 15 bodies were found in the basement, buried in a secret windowless room beneath the garden. In 1998, conservationists were doing repairs on 36 Craven, looking to turn Franklin's old haunt into a museum. From
Starting point is 03:17:55 a one meter wide, one meter deep pit, over 1,200 pieces of bone were retrieved. Remnants of more than a dozen bodies, said Benjamin Franklin's house. Six were children. Forensic investigation showed that the bones dated to Franklin's day. Holy shit.
Starting point is 03:18:16 The most plausible explanation is not mass murder, but an anatomy school run by Benjamin's young friend and protege, William Hewson. Oh, just an anatomy school run by Benjamin's young friend and protege, William Hewson. Oh, just an anatomy school. Yeah, and we're just going to bury them downstairs. Okay, anatomy was still in its infancy, but the day's social and ethical mores frowned upon it. A steady supply of human bodies was hard to come by legally, so Hewson, Hunter, and Field's other pioneers had to turn to grave robbing. supply of human bodies was hard to come by legally so Houston hunter and fields
Starting point is 03:18:45 other pioneers had to turn to grave robbing either paying professional resurrection men to procure cadavers or digging them up themselves to get their hands on specimens researchers think 36 Craven was an irresistible spot for Houston to establish his own anatomy lab. The tenant was a trusted friend and the landlady was his mother-in-law and he was flanked by convenient sources for corpses. Bodies could be smuggled from graveyards and delivered to the wharf at one end of the street or snatched from the gallows at the other end. When he was done with them, Houston simply buried whatever was left of the bodies in
Starting point is 03:19:25 the basement rather than sneak them out for disposal elsewhere and risk getting caught and prosecuted for dissection and grave robbing. Franklin was probably aware of the illegal studies going on in his building, says the Benjamin Franklin House, but it's doubtful that he was involved himself. Still we can't imagine that. Curious man that he was, he didn't sneak down and check out the proceedings at least once or twice of Course he did You're my friend, and we live together, and I say Sam. What are you up to you like, bro?
Starting point is 03:19:54 We got to find out how people work, and there's only one way to do it. We got to look at bodies Whoa, I don't do that. We gotta find a place where we can fucking legally or secretly look at bodies. Well, I'm gonna basement Okay, so what do we do with the bodies? bury him bro But back then when they were studying medicine Isn't that what they did? Like all those people that like studied anatomy back then how did they if it was illegal? To study anatomy if it's illegal to study bodies how else would they find out how Anatomy worked that seems weird but who
Starting point is 03:20:30 knows they had weird laws back then but it does seem weird but it makes sense right because if they had never studied Anatomy before and then all of a sudden it came along like we've got to fuck up your grandpa right I carved grandpa up like a turkey to find out what makes people tick. You know? So weird note to add in another article about this. Oh, boy. Franklin's history as a Mason was one of the historian's initial points of inquiry. Though shrouded in secrecy, Masonic rituals have dark known undercurrents which have at times gone horribly wrong. have at times gone horribly wrong.
Starting point is 03:21:05 For example, in a 2004 initiation ceremony, a new member was accidentally shot by a member who meant to fire an empty gun, but instead fired a loaded one. Yeah. They fake shot at each other? Yeah. But when historians dug deeper into what was going on in the Franklin home
Starting point is 03:21:19 during the years the Bones dated back to, they discovered the real culprit behind the Bones is one of William Houston, the medical student. They're basically saying the same thing. Crazy, right? Yeah. I think they all were a part of like secret groups back then, right? So have you ever heard of the special deal that Ben Franklin supposedly was a part of?
Starting point is 03:21:41 And I'd love to hear if you could debunk this because I'd love to know. A special deal. A special deal with basically the royal family of England that they would get a percentage of taxes, of all taxes. So Benjamin Franklin made a deal that some of the taxes from the United States would go back to England? Still to this day. I don't want to debunk that, but I do. They just put out a special. Who's that?
Starting point is 03:22:09 Ken Burns? Yeah. He made a Ben Franklin special, like maybe three, four episodes. There was a time period. He was going back and forth, which is what this other article was saying, where he lived there, whether it was in Germany or England. I don't remember specifically. He lived there for a long time.
Starting point is 03:22:25 Like his wife, he abandoned his wife like 25, 30 years. He had a kid, abandoned, never came back. Benjamin Franklin did? Yeah, he was like the American representative living in England. This was like right after the Revolutionary War. There's a lot of stuff about taxation representation still going on after the fact. So there might be something to that. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 03:22:47 I'm trying to remember all the stuff about that documentary I just saw. Yeah, that like. Maybe they're like, Benjamin, you get 80 people buried in your fucking house. Let's make a fucking deal, son. We'll blame this kid or we'll blame you. And then supposedly that the Queen of England or the royal family gets a percentage of our taxes. What do you think is going on now that one day some assholes like you and I will be sitting doing a podcast talking about what the government is doing today?
Starting point is 03:23:17 Imagine, imagine, imagine 30 years from now. Yeah. They're talking about how Nancy Pelosi went to Taiwan and started a war with China. That we underestimated China's response, and that was the initial start of World War III. Imagine if that's what it is. If this is our Gulf of Tonkin or whatever. This is our D-Day. Not D-Day.
Starting point is 03:23:38 This is our... What's D-Day? Pearl Harbor? Pearl Harbor. Yeah. This is the day. The day that we'll live in infamy. This is our day. It's crazy. Imagine live in infamy. This is our day.
Starting point is 03:23:45 It's crazy. Imagine. Imagine. Imagine if that's... Because history is going to play out, right? We are not there yet. Whatever's going to happen hasn't happened. That's a possibility.
Starting point is 03:23:57 It is. That's what's crazy, is that the Chinese government is saying that... Did you know that Chris Williamson said that yesterday, that they had posted on their social media account, prepare for war? Yeah. That's what we're using now, social media, to declare war. Trump did that. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:24:14 Remember? He called Kim Jong-un little rocket man. And he's like, our rockets are bigger and better. I promise you. We have the best rockets. I'm the best at rockets. No one loves rockets more than me. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 03:24:29 I mean, she went over there and... Is she there now? Yeah, she's in Taiwan. She landed. What do you think that's all about? Is that a dick-waving contest? Well, that's also like, did... Imagine if that's how they're trying to get rid of Nancy Pelosi.
Starting point is 03:24:43 They're like, this lady's making too much fucking money. It's too obvious. She's over here. She's fucking up our whole scam. Yeah, right? Hey, but Nancy, you know, Taiwan would love for you to visit. Hey, we'd love Taiwan. Let's go.
Starting point is 03:24:54 Maybe make a deal over there. Find out about some chips. You know, bring the husband. He's really good with numbers. And you won't have to drive there. He can drink all he wants. Bro, they made more money in the stock market. They're better at the stock market.
Starting point is 03:25:08 They're better at the stock market than George Soros and Warren Buffett. It's unbelievable. Two guys that that's all they do. That's their thing. Warren Buffett, that's his fucking thing. I get what she's like hitting at 80%. She's so good. That's a genius. He's amazing.
Starting point is 03:25:22 Just a wine drunk with big shiny tits. When they asked her whether or not she gave information, she's like, certainly not. And she pushes the microphone. Okay. Thank you. She just walks away. Dude, how long has she been there? Forever.
Starting point is 03:25:35 Forever. There's a picture of her with JFK at his inauguration. That's insane to be there that long in power. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. And it's just like, how do we not have term limits? Like, that is too long to be there. She keeps getting voted in.
Starting point is 03:25:55 What's amazing is one of my favorite images of her mock clapping Trump. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You don't like this one? Whatever she's doing here. Oh, my God. Kyle Dunn this one? Whatever she's doing here. Oh, my God. Kyle Dunnigan's shit with- The funniest dude.
Starting point is 03:26:09 It's the craziest shit of all time. It's so funny. He is so gifted. So good. That is so good. That fucking, that thing that they do, oh, my God. That web series that they do. It's him and I think Kurt Metzger.
Starting point is 03:26:24 Kurt Metzger is the fucking man. He is so funny. Yeah, and he's a great writer. He's so good. He's so funny. And the two of them together, the fucking sketches that they put together are so funny. They're so ruthless. And it's just weird that we need those guys to do it on YouTube and we're not seeing Saturday Night Live do it and all these others.
Starting point is 03:26:44 Because that's what should be done. No one can go that hard unless you're on the internet. Right? It's kind of crazy but even just a little bit it just seemed like when and this is my kind of problem with comedy right now and I love all comics but there's a lot of comics who are like my generation
Starting point is 03:27:01 who felt like the censorship from the religious right that still can't that just don't understand that that censorship yeah there are crazy religious right people out there but the censorship is now from the left there's a lot of censorship from the left but if the left lets up the right will pick it up well you already see it you remember when with the rovers white you got the crazy people on. This is the end of hookup culture. You're like, stop it. Please. Settle down. The guys who are like hating
Starting point is 03:27:29 against gays while they're sucking trucker dick on the weekends. Now, the real conspiracy theorists will say that this Roe vs. Wade thing is to distract us from all the other stuff going on in the world. So that we'll fight over that because it's such a hot button topic for America. Yeah. People are so divided on abortion rights. It's so important. it's such a hot-button topic for America. Yeah, we're so divided on abortion rights
Starting point is 03:27:46 And so it's so important. It's such a line in the sand for a lot of people Especially women, you know that this a woman's right to choose is such a line of sand that when they take that away then People are gonna be fighting so hard for that that they're gonna ignore all the other shenanigans that are going on Well, I think that I think the biggest problem that the right to choose people messed up on is that so many of them were anti-right to choose when it came to getting the vaccine. And you see it happen all the time. My body, my choice. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:28:17 It's different, they think. It's different because it involves other people. Like having a pregnancy as a woman, having autonomy over your body is your choice. And a man telling you what you can and can't do, which is often the case, is what's so infuriating. The difference is they thought the vaccine was going to stop the spread of the virus and stop the virus in its tracks. Well, there also was a public problem when it really wasn't, if you take a look at the actual numbers of people who passed away from it. It was like a 99% survival rate. Yeah, but it still is a public problem if you have 100 friends and one of them dies from this fucking thing.
Starting point is 03:28:56 Especially people that are vulnerable, people with autoimmune diseases, older people, overweight people. Right. I get their perspective, and I get if it really did stop the spread of the virus, that it totally makes sense. The problem is once it was recognized that it didn't, they stuck with the same game plan. Instead of saying, hey, what are the other options? What are the other things to do?
Starting point is 03:29:18 And how many people exactly are experiencing adverse symptoms and effects from this? How many people are hospitalized because of it? What's happening? Like really happening? Instead of pretending that it's all good, let's look at all of the good it does and then also what's the bad it does and let people make informed choices. That's always been the case with medicine, especially when you're talking about something that may or may not help you because it may or may not stop the spread. It may help you if you encounter the virus within a certain
Starting point is 03:29:50 period of time. But then a lot of places are saying if you were vaccinated and boosted a year ago, it doesn't count anymore. It's crazy. They're making you get boosters and more boosters. And even while the effects of the virus have diminished greatly, right, it's still dangerous to a lot of people, no doubt about it. But what percentage now? And what are the numbers? And can we be accurate about that so we can make an informed decision? That's why people get upset, because they don't feel like they're able to make their own decisions about these kind of things. But do you believe there was a manipulation of the numbers to make it presented as something?
Starting point is 03:30:28 So it all kicks off with these videos of Chinese people falling backwards, right? They're like, oh my God, this thing's going on in China. And it's presented on the news as this crazy thing going on. And even though we never saw it until when? Vaccines. And you see all these kind of, you see the comedian, uh, what's her face in,
Starting point is 03:30:47 in, Oh yeah. She just falls right back. Like there's, there's certain people that, and Dr. Drew's talked about this from the booster do have a, and maybe even from the second shot do have an adverse event.
Starting point is 03:30:58 I know people that have had it. The question is how many, the question is also when you're mass vaccinating, right? When you're, you're giving a medication to 300 million people just in this country alone right or whatever it is 260 million people you're going to absolutely have some adverse effects the question is is it worth it to like risk that because the benefit is overall good that's where people should be making
Starting point is 03:31:23 like logical debates and logical conversations about it. The problem is people get scared. And when people get scared and they think that some people aren't doing the right thing when they did the right thing, then they get angry and emotional. And then they start believing things that turn out to not necessarily be true because some of these people that have put out these, you know, results and studies and studies they they have skewed the data and this has been proven right so it's like this is just humans this is humans and and just because it lines up with this what they thought the pandemic was going to be that's because that's that was their game plan to what to do if something went went down it doesn't mean they planned it i don't think they would i mean so many fucking powerful important people man. A lot of fucking people that were like, you would think like they were at the top of the
Starting point is 03:32:08 food chain in terms of resources and knowledge and influence. A lot of those fucking people died from COVID. Like I got COVID. COVID is fucking real. Yeah, I got COVID too. It's fucking real. But it's just, it's not good. That's, I'm not trying to diminish COVID, but I'm saying it's not the same for everybody.
Starting point is 03:32:26 That's a fact. And taking into account different people, particularly children's immune systems and their responses to it, I think, you know, we, as a society, always when something goes down and it's scary, we have like sides that we pick, we have positions that we take and we stand by them and we defend them even when more data keeps coming out that shows you that it wasn't exactly accurate. So I always think, dude, this is my opinion that, you know, you'll have the trust authority side and then you have the conspiracy side and never is it one completely way or the other right but for me i think it tends to more lean towards the conspiracy side
Starting point is 03:33:11 more often than not now not saying that's completely but it towards leans towards the conspiracy side more times than not because to be honest with you joe i've been saying the same thing today that i'm saying when this whole thing came out. So that's the only reason I go, there's nothing that has happened to me that has changed the way I look at this thing. It just, it just always is the same people that get the more the money, the more the power, the more. And then you discuss like,
Starting point is 03:33:40 is this a move to get us into some kind of like a thing on our phone where we have to have a vaccine pass on our phone and all that stuff? And you can't go a certain place unless you got this vaccine pass and what that represents. That's what scares people. And contact tracing and all that stuff that we start seeing that's happening in China. Now, I don't know everything that's truthful that comes out of China because there's a military industrial complex. Well, they definitely have that. They definitely have a social credit system and that's been documented.
Starting point is 03:34:12 It's also been documented that people that didn't have enough points or did the wrong thing or said the wrong thing or whatever, they weren't allowed to travel. You weren't allowed to purchase certain things. There's parts of the world right now where you have to show your ID in order to get gas. Like you have to-
Starting point is 03:34:27 Sri Lanka. Yeah, you have to scan your number to see if you're allowed to get gas. I mean, what happened in Canada with the truckers where they shut down people's bank accounts because they were associated- Scary shit. That's been something people have been talking about for very- That is the scary part of moving to crypto, right? Did they give them their money back? Did they give
Starting point is 03:34:47 the truckers in Canada their bank accounts back? Whatever happened with that? That's an interesting question, right? It's scary, man. They took away their access to their funds to try to encourage them to quit. Or somebody just, one woman just sent like a hundred bucks to
Starting point is 03:35:04 it and the government shut down her bank account and didn't allow her to get into her bank. That to me is super scary. Canada unlocks vast majority of bank accounts frozen over support for trucker convoy. So they unlock the vast majority but they kept some locked down.
Starting point is 03:35:20 Do you think Trudeau's Castro's kid? Boy, he looks like it, doesn't he? They have the exact same thing. That's the wildest conspiracy ever. You see that? You see that? Is there a timeline where that actually makes sense, where his mom met Castro? I have an episode I did called Cuckapalooza, right?
Starting point is 03:35:40 And it's basically all of these offsprings that don't look like their fathers, but they look like friends of the family. And I have this whole theory that they all just, like, everybody hooks up, and it's hot potato. Oh, yeah, with Frank Sinatra. Looks exactly like him. Here, Trudeau was born a little more than nine months after the marriage of his parents and more than four years before Margaret made a much-publicized trip to Cuba.
Starting point is 03:36:04 So that doesn't make sense. Margaret was 22 when she married the 51-year-old prime minister and was a subject of intense media scrutiny. I like that. Yeah, good for him. Good for him. You go for it. Sort of.
Starting point is 03:36:15 Okay. Subject of intense media scrutiny. Back then, that was normal, though, right? Experts say it would have been impossible for an earlier visit to Cuba to go unnoticed. Experts say. As long as they say. Cuban media have been unusually open about the death of Castro's oldest son, Fidelito, describing it as a suicide after a long depression.
Starting point is 03:36:36 Neither state media nor independent reporters covering the death have reported the existence of a suicide note. Okay, but that's just, we're going into a weird area here. But do me a favor and just for funsies. Just for funsies. That's why it came out. It's because supposedly a suicide note said that. Oh, the suicide note.
Starting point is 03:36:53 But supposedly there's no suicide note. But look at their faces, dude. Yeah, that's what I wanted to do. Okay. February 1, suicide of Castro's oldest son, Fidelito, spurred the most recent reports on several sites claiming that Fidelito left a suicide note referring to Justin Trudeau as his half-brother. The theory was that Castro was Trudeau's father was also shared wildly on social media.
Starting point is 03:37:14 Okay, just for funsies, and this is just funsies, let's Google. Look at the two of them together. No, there's some that are like- There's like multiple photos. Right down there. See that six pictures right there? There it is. No, there's some that are like... There's like multiple photos. Right down there. See that six pictures right there? There it is. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 03:37:29 That's wild. That is wild. That is fucking wild. When you look at those, look at all of them, the top. Oh my God, look at the top one. Bro, that is wild. But then you compare him to who they say is his father, and he doesn't look anything like his dad. But that is wild but then you compare him to who they say is his father
Starting point is 03:37:45 and he doesn't look anything like his dad that is wild hey bro you need a 23andme right away sir we need a you know it's wild how close he looks if it's not his dad boy if I was the father I'd be
Starting point is 03:38:01 fucking suspicious as shit well have you ever heard of him? Where's his real dad? I think that's what this is. Oh. Okay. Well, let me say, hold on. Okay, but his real dad, he looks like his real dad, too. Yeah, he looks a lot like his real dad, dude.
Starting point is 03:38:17 A lot. Okay, I give up. It's just coincidence. It looks a lot like his real dad, dude. Have you ever looked into it? Hold on, go back to on. Go back to that. Go back to that. Don't take that away.
Starting point is 03:38:27 Go to the top one. That looks a lot like him, man. He looks a lot like his real dad. A lot. A lot. They're both men. No, no, no, no. Look at the nose.
Starting point is 03:38:37 The shape. That's not ridiculous at all. He looks a lot like him, man. A lot. It's just fun. It's fun. Hey, man, we're just having fun. Because looking at it right there, he looks a lot like him, man. A lot. It's just a theory. It's just fun. It's fun. Hey, man, we're just having fun.
Starting point is 03:38:47 Because looking at it right there, he looks a lot like his dad. Have you ever seen Prince? Obviously, we had the Frank Sinatra one, but who's- Stop spreading the news. That's the best one. Yeah. How about the- That's Woody Allen's kid?
Starting point is 03:39:00 Fuck you. No, not even close. Fuck you. Not even close. Fuck you. Have you ever Fuck you Not even close Fuck you Have you ever looked into the Woody Allen case? Dude it's super Let's end this
Starting point is 03:39:09 Okay How long are we going? Four hours? No get in close Three and a half Don't go too deep Ben No
Starting point is 03:39:17 It's not that We got a show in two hours I gotta eat For sure dude I gotta eat dinner I love you buddy I love you too man Hope it wasn't too weird
Starting point is 03:39:24 It was awesome We gotta do this more often Anytime Anytime I love you, buddy. I love you too, man. Hope it wasn't too weird. It was awesome. We gotta do this more often. Anytime. Anytime. I love you very much. I miss the whole crew. Thank you for everything. You're the fucking man. I appreciate you very much. You're a fun dude. Thank you, dude. And we've had fun gigging in the past and we're gonna do it tonight. I'm so excited to be back with the boys. Bro, we haven't
Starting point is 03:39:40 done a show together in fucking a few years now. Years, dude. Yes, my friend. Love you, bud. Love you too. Social media, tell everybody all your been done a show together in fucking a few years now years years yes my friend love you bud love you too um social media tell everybody all your podcasts uh i have seven but uh you have really seven i have seven podcasts oh my god yeah i've i was listen it's either i could talk to myself or just throw a camera and a microphone in front of me uh tim fall hat broken sim is my grand theft auto one where i go around and i just look for i i just look for danger and tell you what i see uh my spiritual podcast is called zero i got
Starting point is 03:40:13 a show with um my good friend uh brian callen called conspiracy social club cash daddies is my financial one and uh punch drunk sports just go to FatDragonPro on Twitter or Sam Tripoli everywhere else. Go to SamTripoli.com for all my dates. I'm in San Francisco this weekend. And he's a hilarious comic, too. Very funny dude. I love you, man.
Starting point is 03:40:35 I love you, buddy, so much. Good night, everyone. I love you, too. Bye-bye. Thank you.

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