The Joe Rogan Experience - #1872 - Tony Hinchcliffe & Hans Kim

Episode Date: September 20, 2022

Tony Hinchcliffe is a stand-up comedian, writer, actor, and host of the podcast and live YouTube show "Kill Tony." Hans Kim is a stand-up comedian, "Kill Tony" regular, and host of the "Hans Kim" podc...ast, and "Other People," a live dating show. www.tonyhinchcliffe.com www.hanskimcomedian.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Before we even get rolling, happy 10th year anniversary to young Jamie Vernon. Hey, that's when we met. I saw that on his Instagram today. 10 years ago, the kid took a fucking one-way ticket to LA.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Says, let's see what happens. That's awesome. He's young Jamie Vernon. Still young. He's younger than me. He's always going to be young. In that way, Hans Kim.
Starting point is 00:00:45 How are you? Good. Feeling all right? Yeah, I feel great. Are you too high? Don't lie. No. I only took two puffs.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Okay, that's good. Yeah. Don't tell people about Detroit. And Tony Hinchcliffe. Yes, hello. Good to see you, brother. We've had a fun few weeks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Like the craziest. It's been pretty crazy. Yeah. This past weekend was bananas, hello. Good to see you, brother. We've had a fun few weeks. Yeah, like the craziest. It's been pretty crazy. Yeah. This past weekend was bananas, though. So we do this show in Columbus, Ohio. Dave Chappelle comes, surprises the audience, goes on stage, and it's probably the greatest round of applause I've ever seen anyone get in my life. Not probably.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Definitely. 100%. Ohio's own Dave Chappelle in the main arena of the main city of Ohio. In the shots. Oh, play it on the big screen. Play it. Oh, my God. This is nuts. The whole thing is so spontaneous.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yes. Now listen how long this goes. And this is a standing ovation. the standing ovation literally goes on for a minute how wild is that that was that was amazing it's so cool and it's like the it's like it almost in a weird way makes me happy that the lockdowns and all that happened because it made something like that that much crazier. Like it's like you. I feel like people really appreciate live spontaneous insanity now more than ever. Yes, for sure. They did. Well, it was just an awesome moment. You know, it was just a great moment. he just decides to roll in come up and then we all went
Starting point is 00:03:06 to vegas so then we all went to see the canelo alvarez fight you and i also saw abu dhabi so we saw gordon ryan dominate at abu dhabi and then we went to see two of the craziest fucking ufc fights i've ever seen yeah gregory rodriguez and uh ch Chidi Njikwani, which was a crazy fight that went back and forth until Rodriguez caught him. And Rodriguez had the worst cut I've ever seen in my life. And then Song Yedong, the guy who fights after him against Corey Sanhagen, also has a horrific cut.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And there was a massive cut in the fight just before that with Feely. And he had blood all over him just from choking out the other guy that was on top of him bleeding. There was blood the whole time. Yeah, it was a wild three fights. That's right. We saw that fight, too. We saw the last round of that fight live.
Starting point is 00:03:58 That cut that Rodriguez had was absolutely insane. Insane. The thing about that experience, though, I think we did it in the wrong order. I think it should have, like, Abu Dhabi was amazing. Abu Dhabi you can kind of put anywhere, but you kind of have to put boxing before MMA or it ruins boxing for you. Totally. It just doesn't feel the same. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:20 It's just, it's great. Don't get me wrong. I'm a boxing fan I was super happy to be there it was a wild fight but it's just not not the same yeah it's like getting a hand job after a gangbang I didn't really need that sort of had that earlier but better USC is just so advanced the other thing that boxing does is they play the national anthems. They played three national anthems.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And it's like, good Lord. So they play the Kazakhstan national anthem, and then the dude says, you know, go Triple G, and everybody's like, fuck you. This is Mexican Independence Weekend, man. And then they play the Mexican national anthem. Everybody goes crazy and they sing along, which was pretty dope. Because when you're a place that's that big and it's all, I mean, it had to be at least half Mexicans. Oh, that's, yeah, at least 70%.
Starting point is 00:05:19 At least. Yeah. Whatever the number was. Yeah. So when the songs were playing, like when Canelo has his walkout song, which is also in Spanish, or when they're singing the Mexican Independence Day song, they're singing this song, the Mexican National Anthem rather, they're singing this song in Spanish all together. So there's thousands of people singing along.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Yeah. Before the fight started, I saw in the stands there was like 30 or 40 seats that were blocked off that were just completely empty in this sea of humans. And I'm like, the performer in me is like, why would they lose that many seats? Why would they possibly? Where are those people? What bus didn't make it here? I thought the exact same thing. You saw it?
Starting point is 00:05:57 I thought they maybe could get burned by the fireworks. Right. That was my first thought. Yeah. And then it's Canelo's entrance and the lights go off, pop back on, and there's a whole mariachi band. A full band playing for Canelo
Starting point is 00:06:11 as he comes out. I legitimately thought that that was probably where the fireworks were and people could get fucked up by those fireworks. Yeah. Because, you know, people have been fucked up by fireworks in fight entrances before pretty bad To the point where they got burns all over their body, and they couldn't fight. I know that happened in pride in
Starting point is 00:06:35 Pride the dude got really cooked He was a Brazilian guy Don't remember his name but he was an early early pioneer of MMA and he was fighting in in pride and he got torched by the fireworks you got here oh yeah this is the one from the fight we just saw this is the that's the mariachi band see I thought those seats behind them were like people could get hit with those fireworks maybe because you see how they blew them off they blew off a lot of all that i was like you can't sit under that yeah it would have been an obstructed view from that screen yeah it's not
Starting point is 00:07:16 like that wasn't a sold-out fight that was a sold-out fight and so chapelle and i were in the third row which was amazing We were like right there. And then this guy comes over and says, you guys have to move. These tickets are not yours. And Dave goes, I'm Dave Chappelle. I'm not moving anywhere. Literally says it like that. He's wearing sunglasses.
Starting point is 00:07:44 He's the coolest guy that's ever lived. And so the guy comes back and said, these seats are actually for Travis Scott, but we want to put you on the ringside. And Dave and I look at each other. We're like, okay. And so they take us from the third row to the no row. It's not even a row. You're fucking right there, dude. We're sitting like where the
Starting point is 00:08:05 officials sit it was incredible they were right there it was really good and we saw the last like i think six rounds like that something like that but it was uh it was a good fight it was really good fight i mean canal alvarez is a bad you know and triple g tried to turn it on at the end he just didn't have enough to take the decision. But it was still a good fight. And you've got to realize that Triple G is 40 years old, too. That's so old for a world-class boxer. There's only a few guys who have been able to pull that off,
Starting point is 00:08:37 like Bernard Hopkins and Archie Moore back in the day was an older guy who was really good. Dwight Muhammad Kawi, he fought well into his 40s it's just like some of these guys they they just one day the wheels fall off you know might be your 36 maybe 37 38 just one day the wheels fall off like uh adcc everyone was so young like a baby shark Everyone was so young, like a baby shark. Well, how about Ruatolo? 19 years old and wins ADCC.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Youngest guy ever. That kid is wild. He and his brother are so good. Those guys are so good, and they're 19. It's incredible. There were some times where it looked like he was in trouble. I mean, and to, you know, these guys just, they make it look so easy. It looks like they're just rolling around like it's an accident. That's Gordon.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Gordon makes it look easy. Those guys are moving like ninjas. Right. They have a totally different kind of style. Gordon is just like, he just puts poison on people. Yeah. He just grabs them and puts poison on them. They're fucked.
Starting point is 00:09:47 They're mentally compromised, it seems like. Like they are all buying into the hype of him. No. No. No. They just realize he's that good. So they're scared. But every, when I say scared, I don't mean terrified.
Starting point is 00:10:01 What I mean is like they feel the moment, right? Every one of those world-class fighters that goes up against another world-class fighter, at that moment when the match is about to start and everything's on the line, they have no idea who's going to win. They all have like a wild feeling of anticipation. But with Gordon, they have it worse because no one's beating him. He's just running through everybody, and he's talking shit. And he's like a giant good-looking guy.
Starting point is 00:10:27 He's a giant good-looking guy who talks shit. Look at him. I mean, look at that guy. I mean, if that wasn't a real person, if you said to me, is that CGI or is that a real person, I'd say that's CGI, man. Nobody looks that good. Unless he's a bodybuilder.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Why would he look that good? And he's cool and funny. Nobody looks that good. Unless he's a bodybuilder. Why would he look that good? And he's cool and funny. He's the best. The fact that he said that he called his mom before the tournament and told her that he won. But the thing is, there's no one like him. He's 27 years old, and he's widely
Starting point is 00:10:59 accepted as the greatest of all time. Already. He hasn't been beaten in his last 50 something matches and he gets so bored with it that he literally writes down on a piece of paper how he's gonna strangle them i'm gonna get a person like this i'm gonna get this guy in a triangle i'm gonna get this guy in a mounted triangle i'm gonna just i'm gonna do whatever i want yeah he told me before that fight he's like i'm gonna give him a single leg and let him take me down Oh, yeah, that was the Nick Rodriguez fight. Yeah, and he did. Yeah Well, they were really good training partners
Starting point is 00:11:31 Nikki rod is a beast to that what that whole thing was wild man to watch how good the level of jiu-jitsu is now It's so exciting It's so exciting because these guys are the top of the food chain guys and then they're strangling each other it's so it's not just that like a top of the food chain jiu-jitsu guy can go against a regular person and use it because they're using it on each other the best of the best guys are using it on each other and they're tapping each other it's like you know when gordon bryan got galvao's back and tapped him it's's like, that's a crazy moment, man. That is a fucking passing of the torch if you're ever going to see one.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I mean, even when he did it, he didn't even have a fully locked in rear naked choke. He just had the forearm across and he was, I'm sure he had tremendous leverage, but it's not as strong as he could have gotten. And if he got the full, you know, grab a hold of the biceps and strangle. If you watch it again, watch how he taps him with it.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Like this, that's I'm sure strong. See how he's got his like arm on his forearm? That's for sure ridiculous and sucks a thousand dicks. But it's not as hard as he could do it. If Gordon went all the way over and he but what he's doing here is also he's trapping the right arm so he can't really defend himself and he's got the other arm
Starting point is 00:12:52 trapped in his legs. It's really brilliant if you look at it. It looks like his right hand is like loose too. It doesn't even look like he's pulling and look at that sliding down. Yeah well you see what he's doing? What he did was he traps his left arm with his left leg and Then he traps his right arm with his left arm
Starting point is 00:13:10 So he's one arm strangling him with the guillotine and gov out literally can't defend So what I'm saying is I'm not saying it was like it's not an awesome way to tap somebody It certainly is but that's not the hardest he could do it. The fact that he can tap world champions with a technique that is utilizing a small percentage of the power that he would get if he fully locked and clamped down on the head or if he got a gable grip. I mean, it's wild. It's a one-arm rear naked strangle is what it is. It's crazy to do that on a world champion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:46 To do that on a world champion. Who can take a lot of pain. Yeah, dude. He's such a bad motherfucker. Gordon is the fucking man. It's crazy to see anybody that good at anything. At anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:58 At anything. It's like watching a ball roll downhill. It's like he's eventually going to get him. Yeah, well, that's what they always said about hickson in his prime too it was a really similar kind of uh feeling that everybody had like you could just couldn't keep up the rhythm eventually he's gonna get you like everybody who rolled with hicks and had the same statement they would all say the same thing they would be like he's the best he's the best and that's all that's what
Starting point is 00:14:25 they say about gordon yeah it's like there's these guys in sports for whatever reason man they have this fucking extra gear and they could put in more focus and more dedication and more energy and more intelligence and they could formulate better strategies and they're more effective with their time management and they don't fuck themselves up and in their personal lives so that their lives filled with chaos and they have all these distractions if they can if it's really rare that you find someone that can do what that guy's doing i was trying to explain to radio our boxing friend that it's like if mayweather didn't get to pick who he fought, when he fought, and sometimes knocked people out in the first or second or third round.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Right, right. Yeah, if Mayweather had no business saying it, like you have young guns who come out of nowhere, and then they can just challenge him. Yeah. They would never do that in boxing. Maybe they would. Actually, let me take that back.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Maybe they would. They should. I'm telling you. i'm telling you after watching maybe of course like you said maybe i was desensitized from watching the best jujitsu and crazy ufc right next to the octagon but i feel like boxing needs and i know the purists are gonna come after me for this but they need like a knockout bonus or some type of disproportionate thing and i get the tactical slow pace like see what they're going to come after me for this, but they need like a knockout bonus or some type of disproportionate thing. And I get the tactical slow pace, like see what they're doing, feel it out style, but it's never been what really, I mean, you think about the big,
Starting point is 00:15:54 Ali and Tyson and these people had like, you know, significant knockout strength. These tickets selling, the reasons why people would buy pay-per-views. Yeah, people buy pay-per-views for Floyd, and it's mostly because they want him to lose. Right. Oh, totally. Which is genius. He's genius. I mean, all these guys that everybody hates, whether it's Colby Covington or Floyd Mayweather or Conor McGregor,
Starting point is 00:16:19 those are the guys that sell tickets. It's so nuts. It's such a good strategy. Get people mad at you. So many people spend their time trying to be the good guy, but you need the bad guys for that. I kill everybody! I kill them all! I eat, I kill! Yeah, you need guys
Starting point is 00:16:40 that are all... You need everything. You need the whole thing. But you need people to rise and you need like when a when a guy like gordon rises in jujitsu it makes everybody aware of jujitsu it's like you hear about this and like people who are just casuals are going to hear about that story they're going to go this is 27 year old guy and he's the greatest of all time and everybody's going to go what like how many people are doing jujitsu there's a greatest of all time. And everybody's going to go, what? How many people are doing jiu-jitsu? There's a lot of people doing it. Why is this one guy the greatest?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Then you tell the whole story. Well, he has a master that teaches him who used to be a professor of philosophy at Columbia University. He's a fucking super genius. And he became obsessed with jiu-jitsu to the point where he used to teach and sleep on the mats. And his name's John Donaher. And John Donaher gets together withordon ryan who's a freak who's this giant freak athlete and the two of them together create a perfect super assassin that's wild yeah i've been hearing about it for like a year we've been hanging out you know he
Starting point is 00:17:42 comes to the shows we go out afterwards listen, listen to music, eat burgers together. We've done it all together. And I've heard about his legacy. But actually seeing Gordon this weekend, actually physically being there. Some things don't translate to screens like they do in real life. And that's a big one. Because it's just two giant guys. That guy totally has a chance, it feels like.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Totally. It seems like, okay, chance, it feels like. Totally. It seems like, okay, well, this could be the one. We might see something crazy. No, he's just great to slow, casual dominance. It's like a snake and a gerbil. But it's interesting. His style does not rely on explosiveness. It doesn't rely on great physical strength.
Starting point is 00:18:28 It relies on intelligence and being ahead of you and having strength to restrict movement. Like, he's very strong. If he gets a hold of dudes, they're not really going anywhere. He's really good. Like, when he puts guys on their back they generally stay in their back you know it's like you you do not want that top pressure it's scary top pressure but it's like he's not so fast you can like that guy that tapped out cyborg
Starting point is 00:18:54 yeah that crazy arm bar see if you can find that um cyborg abru is like world champion jujitsu guy like a legendary guy big fucking giant dude and this other cat caught him like with one of the fastest arm bars i've ever seen it was incredible yeah place popped big time and somebody beat that guy oh jesus jesus i mean how good are these fucking dudes that Is this it? Yes, this is it right here. Oh, okay. That's not a good video. Yeah, sorry. For people who...
Starting point is 00:19:32 His name is... I don't want to fuck this up. Hysam Rita. And he... That's not from that... Yeah, it's... I mean, the only other video I found was this one, and it's, like, from way far away. So it'd be hard to see. Yeah, this is... It kind of looked the only other video I found was this one, and it's like from way far away. So it'd be hard to see.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah, this is. It kind of looked like it, but. This is it. This is it. Because there was two matches going on at the same time. Yeah. And he catches them right here. Oh, maybe that was it, the same one.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Maybe that was the same video. Yeah. It looks like it, right? Yeah. Damn. So the point is, it's like there's all these guys that are killing each other, and then Gordon kills them all. It's so wild.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah. Like, how is he doing it? I mean, I know how he's doing it, but, I mean, it's still. yeah like how is he how's he doing it i mean i know how he's doing it but i mean it's still it's extraordinary it's like chess i mean it's such a great sport because it's like a mental game it's not just about who can bench press the most right well they think in in some ways that's maybe even the harder work is like after you're done physically training then going over videos and going over techniques and talking about it and doing stuff about strategy because that's something that a lot of people just don't do a lot of guys what they do is and when i was doing jujitsu a lot i was
Starting point is 00:20:56 never like reviewing my my moves or i just go and train and roll and hopefully i'll get better get better tomorrow wasn't you know trying to be the best in the world. But when you are trying to be the best in the world, you really have to look at everything. And most guys don't. Most guys just do the training part. And Donaher and Gordon, they spend time like really objectively going over techniques and analyzing them and improving them and creating entries
Starting point is 00:21:22 and coming up with good defense. All that intellectual work is equally as important. They're willing to just do more and they're willing to do more intelligently. It seems like that's the dominant thing about what's going on there is intelligence and execution. Technique. Also, 365 days a year training. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:46 They train every day, which is really wild. Because, you know, it goes against the idea that everybody has that you need these recovery days. They're like, no, you just train light on those days. Yeah. Just keep training every day. And I don't know if you noticed this, but the other guy that won from Austin, Texas,
Starting point is 00:22:03 which it's crazy how much it's Brazil versus Austin now. That's that dude Badoni? Yeah. How do you say his name? Go to the Abu Dhabi brackets. Giovanni, I think, or something. Very Italian name. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:19 But I don't know if you noticed this, but Gordon at one point went up to his coach and whispered something into his ear like halfway through the fight and then went back to his seat and then when he took the guy's back and he was defending the rear naked choke Giancarlo Badoni yeah and Gordon yelled just grab that arm or whatever like the guy's like defending the thing so then he started choking the guy's arm he was listening to Gordon who's literally next to us in the stands, not even in the corner or anything.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And he started listening to Gordon and won. Like it was a crazy, crazy finish. He also watched Gordon give him the direct instruction. He beat Lucas Barbosa who's like a really
Starting point is 00:23:00 high level guy. It was really exciting. Very, very exciting fight. It's just cool to watch people do stuff that is insanely difficult at the highest level humanly available. Right. And that's what that was. That's what this weekend was.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Yeah. Watching all three of those things. Watching the UFC, watching Abu Dhabi, watching the Canelo Alvarez fight. They say Alvarez fucked his wrist up. He's going to be out for as long as a year. Wow. There's something wrong with his wrist.
Starting point is 00:23:35 See what the fuck that is. That was cool though, being there while, you know, it's Mexican Independence Weekend. People are so fired up. Yeah. He probably hurt his wrist counting all the money that he made.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Okay, it hurts everywhere, everywhere. Canelo said, I had the wrist issue since the Caleb plant fight. I was like, it's okay, later, later. Then it started really bad. I need surgery. It was really bad during the fight It's not broken. It's a meniscus injury a wrist injury, but it's not broken Canellas doctor spoke of the amount of rehabilitation time the canal will need
Starting point is 00:24:16 He has a TF CC tear triangular fibro cartilage complex tear Which is a piece of cartilage in the wrist which affects the body's ability to mobilize that joint without feeling impingement and sharp pain. If he has surgery, depending on what the surgeon decides, probably six to eight to 12 weeks, depending on the rehabilitation, if it's successful. If it's successful. I don't know if I trust a doctor that says six to eight to 12 weeks. Why wouldn't he just say six to 12?
Starting point is 00:24:45 Why is that 8 there? Well, whatever is going to happen, they're going to get him on the best stem cells possible. And I'm sure they're going to juice him up. Yeah. Heal him up with some of that Topo Chico. Some of that sweet, sweet. I mean, that's the biggest boxer in the world They're gonna take care of the thing he needs more than anything
Starting point is 00:25:08 It's his wrists You know, your hands and your wrists Who does he even have left to fight? Benavidez There's a few guys There's a few guys And there's also a rematch with B-Vol If he wants to go back up
Starting point is 00:25:21 But if this wrist has been fucking with him Since the Caleb Plant fight That kind of makes a lot of sense. Wrist injuries are really rough. I had a wrist injury once. I lasted for like two years. It hurt me. It was a really annoying one.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And then I finally got something called, God, what do they call it? Prolotherapy. That's what it is. Where they're injecting things into your tendons and ligaments that make them swell up and it strengthens them very interesting stuff i was like this is like 1998 or some shit like that that's when i finally got it done and when i got it done i finally fixed it that was the only thing that ever fixed it.
Starting point is 00:26:06 It would just keep coming back. So if this guy has got that, way worse it sounds like. He's got meniscus tears. Meniscus tears in your fucking wrist. And you have to punch people in the head. And then not only that, but to get in shape, you have to punch a heavy bag. And you have to punch mitts.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And you have to punch sparring partners. And fuck. That's why soccer can never be as good as mma or boxing they're like faking injuries that's true i think that's why a lot of people you know if you hear about uh like a soccer player getting actually hit you don't take it seriously you know if I get soccer player runs up to a soccer player and fucking elbows him in the head and the guy goes down it's like so but I you guys fake it so much right you fake it so much I can't get excited about if that was a basketball game and a guy
Starting point is 00:26:58 walked up to another basketball player and elbowed him in the face and dropped him you'd be like oh shit this is, this is wild. With soccer, it's like, cry wolf. Yeah, it's lame. Even in pro wrestling, I'm like, oh, maybe that guy really got hurt there. Even when he gets headbutt, he fakes the end of it. How does he fake the end of it? He's, like, rolling around on the ground like he's actually hurt. Well, dude, an actual headbutt, well, see,
Starting point is 00:27:23 that kind of looked a little bit like you hit him in the chest. Did he hit him in the chest or on the chin? Oh. Let me see that again. Okay, well, that's... He's really doing that to himself, silly boy. You're really hurting your own head. And in UFC, you get kicked in the fucking head,
Starting point is 00:27:44 and you pretend like it's nothing. That's true. You don't want to show that you're hurt. Yeah, but he could have gotten hurt there on the way down. Falling down like that, it doesn't seem like he stopped his fall. It seemed like that guy really shocked him and knocked him down like that. So if you're just falling like that, you can get pretty fucked up. On his shoulder
Starting point is 00:28:05 maybe your head your shoulder your back your hips you know if you're not prepared and you fall like that like people get fucked up from falls man falls can fuck you up yeah that's why you're not supposed to be headbutting people it's just when you see soccer live it's like we were talking about jiu-jitsu we went to see um soccer live here in austin went to the uh that stadium yeah i've been to one it's amazing it's so fun yeah it's fun and the sport is fun to watch it's and it's it's very impressive like these dudes are in phenomenal shape because they are hauling ass all over that field and then sprinting back the other way and it's printing back this way. It's like whoa The cardio involved in being a soccer player is off the charts. Yeah, that's got to be one of the most cardio intensive sports Right, you think it's such a big field huge. It's like a football field and they're cut there's no
Starting point is 00:29:05 breaks yeah do they have any breaks at all i mean they have like little short moments where they like talk about shit and blow a whistle or something i don't think they even have timeouts yeah oh when the ball goes out of bounds then you can sub in players we know so little about soccer gotta get ian edwards on here to explain it That's a sport that is a thousand times better live than it is on a TV. Yeah. That, hockey, and then some of the other ones are backwards. It's like basketball, in my opinion, kind of sucks live. Same sort of with football.
Starting point is 00:29:38 You can't really, depending on where you are in a stadium, you can't really see what's going on. The screens don't do any justice in football. Did you say basketball sucks live? Yeah. Oh, it's horrible. Oh, you're a basketball guy? Well, I spent 10 years of my young life playing it.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Well, yeah, I did too. When I was younger, I played basketball every year, but it's just lame. They don't start until the last couple minutes. Did you ever play in front of people? Yeah, Jamie. I'm the same age and from the same area as lebron james our high schools are rival schools i know we were gonna play them goofball did you play against lebron james in high schools that we just alluded to i wrestled
Starting point is 00:30:16 wrestling and basketball are both winter sports so we went against each other in both he's watched me wrestle and I've watched him play basketball. We're both the fighting Irish. Akron, St. Vincent, St. Mary and Ursula. Really? Yeah. Do you remember him? Oh, God, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:35 He was the news story. He was literally on the local news at like 15. Every single night. Sports Illustrated when we were in high school. When you were in high school? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, and he was that good, by the way.
Starting point is 00:30:47 He was like that good. He was exactly that good. He was crazy. That dude spends over a million dollars a year just on like massage and therapy and taking care of his body. He needs to. Smart. Smart.
Starting point is 00:30:59 His toes are so fucked up. Are they? There's like a picture of his toes. They're like this. What is that? Show me again. They're like all coiled on each other. Are they? There's like a picture of his toes. They're like this. What is that? Show me again. They're like all coiled on each other. Are they really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Oh my god. Really? Oh man, those slamming into the tip of his shoe at like superhuman strength. Is that real? I mean, it could be bad timing of a picture because if you get it there, it's not as bad, but he's got basketball feet, man. man yeah basketball players have horrible feet jesus christ he spent i spent five years of my life with just my ankles taped and i was only playing high school basketball he's
Starting point is 00:31:34 been playing at the high level and he is every day for 30 years like super strong too let me ask you this like basketball shoes um they're they, they're kind of like flat. They don't have a runner's heel, like a running heel on it, right? They're all kind of flat. And isn't the thought behind, especially for explosive plyometrics and shit, is that those barefoot style shoes with the wide toe box and that kind of thing, those are better for your feet, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Doesn't everybody kind of agree on that? I think so, yeah. Why don't people play basketball in those? Is it because of the impact? I think it's because you have to stop quickly often. They started with chucks, you know. Right. They have good grippage.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Dunking wasn't really a big thing back then either. So that helps you dunk the other don't impact on your knees when you come down yeah well it's better to land like naturally instead of we're lying on cushion because if you're lying on cushion your form might get bad right and then the speed of them once they got did like evolution of cutting where people's feet would just slide out of the canvas it had to get stronger made shoes and stuff it still happens now few people's feet still just bust out of shoes it happens just really how often does that happen more often than it should that's like i'll say that yeah way more often than it should i'm not surprised i think it's such a culture now
Starting point is 00:33:03 like basketball shoes that they can't go back it's like not having short I think it's such a culture now, like basketball shoes, that they can't go back. It's like not having short shorts anymore. It's like, I don't know. I don't think people would accept it. You don't think people would accept it if they played basketball in like those zero barefoot shoes? People would get mad. Yeah. This is better for the sport.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Fuck your sport. I want some cool sneakers to wear to school. These are Dwayne Wade shoes. Oh, that's ridiculous. What is that? They do. Some of them are for function. Some of them are for actual basketball.
Starting point is 00:33:33 What is happening there? Remember these strength shoes from back in the day? Somebody sees you walking through the park with those things on. But I pulled up a picture of when his foot blew out through there. Wow. This whole foot right there. That's crazy. Just like busted apart.
Starting point is 00:33:48 That is crazy. And this is when this guy was in college and he was on his way to making $100 million, which he did. He's in the NBA. Those are Nikes that fell apart? Maybe if they used American labor, they would stay together. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. America.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Absolutely. But then the problem is, do you really want an American to do that job? Working in a Nike plant? How much glue do you think you sniff in a Nike plant gluing sneakers together?
Starting point is 00:34:17 That shit's gotta be terrible for you, right? Yeah. But, I mean, yeah, these jobs should be in America. Well. We should have masks or ventilation or whatever to overcompensate for the glue and do it American. Pay them well. It would be nice if we made everything we need to be sustainable right here.
Starting point is 00:34:39 But I don't want anybody working on sneakers in any country. Fix that with a robot. You know know people sniff and glue all day that's not good yeah if you have a job and your your your income is dependent upon you inhaling toxic fumes at work every day that's crazy you really stop and think about how many people have been really fucked up like that then the best sniffer gets like a head and gets genetic advantage, and then soon we're just a race of just poison. Poison-consuming people. You guys know the story of Michelangelo when he was painting the Sistine Chapel? No. He went blind because he's painting lying on his back,
Starting point is 00:35:21 and the droplets of blood are getting into his eyes, and he's losing his vision. Yeah. That's crazy. Isn't there like some stories on it? I just typed it in. It says he had problems with his vision. He did not go blind.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Oh, I'm exaggerating. While Michelangelo was filming the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel in 1512, he complained of problems with his vision that he thought to have been the eye disease transitory, how do you say that? Transitory nystagmus. Nystagmus? Caused by prolonged eye strain.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Huh. Why did I hear that he got paint dripped in his eyes? Because they're just talking about the strain. I could see the strain there. Michelangelo reluctantly accepted the commission, spending four years of his life perched on scaffolding with his brush in his hand.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Let's see what it says there. I clicked on it. It said, who went by blind painting the Sistine Chapel? Maybe it says that. Oh, contrary to popular belief, Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel in a standing position. While they picture Michelangelo creating legendary frescoes, most people assume he was lying down. But in fact, the artist and his assistants used wooden scaffolds that allowed them to stand upright and reach above their heads.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Michelangelo himself designed the unique system of platforms which were attached to the walls with brackets. The impression that Michelangelo painted on his back might have come from a 1965 film, The Agony and the Ecstasy, in which Charlton Heston portrayed the genius behind the Sistine Chapel ceiling. Can you show a photo of the Sistine Chapel? The work that he did, just the overall beauty of these images that this dude just painted on the top of this church building over four years. Oh, my God. I mean, it's really incredible stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And it's incredible because it's like you know that his hand touched that, and then all this time has gone by, and you can still see it. It's like all that art that they have over there it's so fascinating such a strange strange thing that they have these enormous buildings they're just filled with art from like the 1500s and the 1600s and the 1700s it makes you realize like how young America is god we're so young yeah we're so young we're already on meth I went to Puerto Rico it's beautiful over there and that's an old school very old school they literally have I think it's called old yeah it's called old San Juan because they left it.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I mean, the brick in the streets is crazy. Cars just doof, doof, doof, doof. It's made out of potholes. And the buildings and everything. It's so beautiful over there. Yeah, that place is... When was Puerto Rico first first settled i have no idea i smoked pot the whole time i was there did you yeah in puerto rico oh yeah what's the is there
Starting point is 00:38:54 is it legal there dude it's one of the it's america you can do anything i don't know what the actual laws are they're too busy there There's literally gunshots going off all the time, so they're not worried about anything. They have no power right now. Yeah. Yeah. You told me about it on the plane. Columbus arrived in Puerto Rico during his second voyage in 1943,
Starting point is 00:39:22 or 1493, rather. during his second voyage in 1943, or 1493, rather, the island inhabited by the Taino. Taino? They called it, hmm, Borican. Borican. Spelled a variety of ways by different writers of the day. Columbus named his, what did he name his what? San Juan.
Starting point is 00:39:44 San Juan Bautista, in honor of St. John the Baptist. So in the 1400s, it sounds like people started colonizing it. Have you ever heard of Corvo Island in the Pacific? No. I just saw a video about this. It looks like this. Were there people living on Puerto Rico before? That's my point on this too.
Starting point is 00:40:04 The same time period they went around the other side this was in the Pacific they thought they found this last uninhabited island so they went around in a circle and then on one side of it they found a statue that looked like this what this is like in like 1490s and it had a guy on a horse pointing and there was some transcriptions on the bottom and apparently once uh spain found out about it they demanded the statue be brought to them wow and it was like broken up and it's but now it's just a myth that it even never existed but there's a few people still living on the island there is an island called inaccessible island you know about that no it's literally like there's so many cliffs and the terrain around it is so ragged and jagged
Starting point is 00:40:46 that you can't get there so it's only for animals that's it right there? an accessible island? yeah why don't they use helicopters? I don't know
Starting point is 00:40:59 I think I would think that some rich guy would go bitch I can live there I don't think it's very flat either if you look at it it's like I don't think it's very flat either. If you look at it, it's like, I don't think there's great places to land. Oh, is it all like straight up and down? You can parachute.
Starting point is 00:41:13 You can parachute. What is it? Oh, there it goes. I'm not parachuting. That's what it looks like. It goes pretty straight up and down. And there's just shipwrecks all around it underneath that water. There's that bird looking to peck your feet as soon as you fall asleep. Fucking evil bird.
Starting point is 00:41:29 People are accessing it. Yeah. Seems accessible to me. Yeah. Just get to camp on that one spot. That spot that's flat. Yeah, there's not a whole lot left discovered in terms of, continents and stuff on earth it's so crazy how you have to be shaped to keep humans off of you if you're an island just like you know straight up in the
Starting point is 00:41:53 air yeah just go yeah just go otherwise we're gonna fuck it up yeah we're like rats we just come over and try to dig holes in it and make electricity. Just rig the electricity. I mean, we are on every goddamn patch of dirt on Earth. Even in places that super suck, like Antarctica. People are up there in Antarctica and fucking drinking coffee and some yurt. It's true. It's almost like we don't count a place as existing until a European found it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:27 Like there was people on Puerto Rico. Well, that's because they can't write. So were the people on Puerto Rico, the island, were they people that were on somewhere from the Americas that got boats and traveled? No, they were just there like from like zero or something. Because they came from the Bering Strait then down to South America. Yeah. Someone must have come there.
Starting point is 00:42:49 The first inhabitants were the Tainos, a group of indigenous people who lived on the island for hundreds of years before the Spanish... See, so they arrived there hundreds of years ago before the Spanish arrival, organized in small clans and villages led by...
Starting point is 00:43:03 How do you say that? Caquiques. Caquiques. Chefs. Kaikikas. Chefs. Chiefs, rather. They survived by fishing, hunting, and basic agriculture. Okay, so those folks, so let's go back before, a couple hundred years before that, before these folks arrived. So then there was no one on that island?
Starting point is 00:43:21 No people. That's a good question because it said indigenous. So, like, how does it start? I think they're giving him indigeney. They're giving him that word after a couple of hundred years. I'm like, all right, you're indigenous. Like, there's an argument about that with Hawaii and pigs. You know, because people say pigs are an invasive animal.
Starting point is 00:43:39 They most certainly are. But they've been in Hawaii for so long. People have been hunting them in Hawaii for so long. They're kind of like an indigenous animal. I mean, it's almost like a part of the, like, luau's. What are they doing? They're smoking a pig. That's like a giant part of culture in Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:43:58 It's kind of, if we said we're going to get rid of all the pigs in Hawaii, people would go, what the fuck? All of them, bro. They contribute. They're almost like an indigenous animal. But so for a human, how many hundreds of years does a human have to live somewhere before we consider them indigenous? Or do we ever? What if it's 1,000 years or 10,000 years?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Because all the people that we think came across the Bering Strait, they all came from Asia. And they all made their way through the Bering landmass into America. That's like a predominant theory, right? Yeah. All of them. So are they indigenous once they get here? What does that mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Once they were white people. Right. They were colonizing just like. Well, they weren't white people, right? But they were Siberians. I think that was. I mean, like just mentality wise. That was one of the ways that they found that out.
Starting point is 00:44:52 There was a guy who was a Mormon. And this crazy Mormon thought that. They were all Jews. Everyone was the last tribe of Israel. And so he was going to run very expensive genetic studies. So this is back before 23andMe where you had to actually pay money to a lab to do this. This guy was like, I'm going to show you. And so they do these studies on all these Native American folks.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And they find out that a lot of them are coming from Siberia, that their original genes emanated from Siberia. Or people existed when it was all one piece of land, right? Pangea. We were talking about this the other night we're talking about how long is it going to take before we can show that your genes are American because everybody came from Africa every human right they all go to different places but when they're there for like a couple thousand years you could see in their genes, oh, you're from North European heritage or you're from Ireland. Your family's from Britain.
Starting point is 00:45:50 They can find all that stuff. They can find, oh, your family's from China. They can find all that stuff. How long before they can find that you were American? Because it took a while to become whatever the gene pool of England is, where they could recognize it. How long before, like, America is kind of a race? I think it's when everything's, like, cut, right? When it's, like, but by that point, it should be a lot of other places.
Starting point is 00:46:18 But, like, when everything, when you're, like, a full mutt, I think that's American. 10% everything. When we're a full mutt. think that's American 10% everything full mutt that is interesting I've never thought of that before the like Pangea thing I don't even know when that was or if it's humanly possible that human life existed back then but that would be crazy to be like let's say you're a couple people on the Puerto Rico island that's like slowly fading away and you're like, uh... You don't have boats yet. What the fuck? Where are you guys going? It was great when we were attached.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Yeah. Where are you guys going? Yeah, let's take a guess. How long ago do you think... First of all, is Pangea 100% accepted? I don't know. Or is it still a debatable thing? I have no idea. How long ago do you think Pangaea happened?
Starting point is 00:47:07 So for Pangaea, for people who are not paying attention, it's all the planets, all the continents, rather, were all supposedly pushed together, and then they separated. Oh, well, it says right there. I'm pretty sure that's an accepted scientific fact, right? Yeah, continents shift, Florida's disappearing. When is the early Mesozoic? What time period is that?
Starting point is 00:47:30 Wow, 335 million years ago. Yeah, no people, bro. We were a little plankton. Yeah, it was probably barely dinosaurs, probably barely lizards. What year was the first dinosaur? Oh, it began to break apart 200 million years beginning of the drastic so it was right then right oh triassic and the beginning
Starting point is 00:47:52 of the dry jurassic wow it began to break up right when the dinosaurs came along coincidence they were too heavy they started breaking it up they just kept eating everything did you see that dinosaur they found a full fossil of a dinosaur the first time they've ever found a dinosaur with like fossilized skin
Starting point is 00:48:16 it's cause of like the drought right the lake dried up I don't know where this one came from I didn't read the story I was hoping on Jamie's gonna pull it up and then I was going to comment on it. Uninformed. But I saw photos of it. It looked pretty dope.
Starting point is 00:48:32 There's this dead looking dinosaur thing. It's just real strange. Wow. This is the newest story like this I can find. It's titled that they found a dinosaur mummy in Canada. Yeah, but there's a photo of it.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Is there a photo of it there? No, that's not it. It looks really cool. No, it's not that. How long ago is this? This was last month. No, this was like yesterday, believe it or not. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:02 See if you can find it. I will look. Two weeks weeks ago duck-billed dinosaur no that's the same no this one looked like stegosaurus or something like that was it the back that you could see yeah I think I saw that yeah
Starting point is 00:49:17 imagine how much shit just rotted away and we're finding the rare freaks that get trapped in mudslides. Can you imagine if they found an iPhone from like a million years ago or something? Oh, God. Known as a nodosaur. Nodosaur?
Starting point is 00:49:38 Look at that thing. Look how dope that looks. Like it. But does that look any cooler than a crocodile? And those fucks are alive right now. We're just used to them. Yeah, exactly. Like elephants or giraffes.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Look at that. Wow. It is amazing all the different shapes that life comes from, too, or that life exists in. Like from a crocodile to like a stork, you know, like to a gorilla, like there's so many bizarre, and each one plays a strange role in its ecosystem of trying to balance everything out. All of them except people,
Starting point is 00:50:21 where you just swarm all over everything and just eat junk food and get fat fat fart on each other pollute the sky look how successful we are all those losers living in harmony with earth yeah you dumb stork yeah those dorks they're fucking it up good thanks for eating the fish so we can fucking build iPhones. Yeah. You guys are fucking up everything. Yeah, humans suck. Yeah, if you compare us to any other animal on the planet, we do the worst damage.
Starting point is 00:50:58 No one even comes close. Right. Like, people are talking about methane from cow farts, you know, because that's actually an issue. It's from burps, right? Cow burps. But that's a fraction of the stuff we do. Oh, yeah. We pollute rivers.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Yeah. If no one's looking, human beings just take their industrial waste and throw it in the water. Fuck you. Did you ever see that Teflon movie with Mark Ruffalo? No, what is it? Man, I can't remember right now. Dark Waters? Yeah, but it is
Starting point is 00:51:33 very interesting. The waters in West Virginia? Yeah, the city where the Teflon pan company. Oh, big time. The rain and the everything. Did you ever see that one river in China that's a dark blue because they make blue jeans there? No.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Bro. Oh, no. Yeah, when you're getting all your sexy blue jeans on, Chiz, this is what you do in that river. Oof. How crazy is that? This is what you do in that river. Oof. How crazy is that?
Starting point is 00:52:11 The whole fucking river near where all of these blue jean factories are. It's filled with blue paint. Look at that one. That green shit. Wow. That's nuts, man. These people are just wading through green water. That's a billion people.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Isn't it funny that in a movie, that would turn someone into some sort of superhero? In a movie, whenever there's some pollution or radiation or some shit like that, people always almost die but come back with superpowers. Whoa, go back to that picture of the red water. What the fuck is that? Dude. Where I'm from, the river was so dirty that one time it caught on fire.
Starting point is 00:52:54 For real? The Mahoning River, yeah. Yeah, that's a real one. It caught on fire. Yeah, it was really bad. It caught on fire at least a dozen times. It used to happen a lot. We're disgusting. The river's caught on fire
Starting point is 00:53:09 a dozen times. It's that polluted? Ohio's gross, too. Oh my god, that's so gross. But at least when America was doing this, there was only like 5 million or like 2, 20 million. China has like a billion people, and they're just like doing all this shit
Starting point is 00:53:26 that we did a hundred years ago. One of the most polluted rivers in the United States. Wow. That's incredible. The river's on fire. So what is it? Is like oil floating on the water? Floating pieces of oil slick debris.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Ignited by sparks of a passing train. Oh, my God. Specifically following investigation, the cause was determined to be the oily debris trapped beneath the wooden trestles, rigid support frames located around Campbell Road Hill in southeast Cleveland. Man, good time for that.
Starting point is 00:54:02 What the hell? Fucking advertisements. They're doing that with articles now. Your entire screen will fill up with an ad. Southeast Cleveland. Man, good time for that. What the hell? Fucking advertisements. They're doing that with articles now. Your entire screen will fill up with an ad. Yeah. What? Yeah, I like the news ones that get you,
Starting point is 00:54:14 and then you click on it, and they give you, like, half a first paragraph, and then they're like, all right, for $10 a month, you can subscribe. I'm like, this is how people will stay stupid. You know what I think? I think if I was a writer right now, I would want to get on something, some sort of independent publishing platform immediately. Because I think that those publishing platforms, people are going to develop followers the same way you have followers on Instagram and followers on YouTube. People are going to develop big time followers and already have on Substack and stuff like that. But it's going to be like podcasting where it's going
Starting point is 00:54:49 to come to a point in time where there's too many of them. And if you're good, even if you're good, but if you're new, you're getting started out. It's like there's too many now because it seems like that with podcasting now. Like I see people that are jumping into the podcast world and it seems like there's too many choices it's like if you were trying to start right now it's like i'm not saying you can't make it but it's not like if you started three years ago if you started three years ago it was still like people were looking for funny new things now there's so much to pay attention to it's hard to get people's attention. Yeah. And the ones, even if you start now, the ones that started 10 years ago
Starting point is 00:55:28 have been doing it 10 years and have gotten 10 years better at what they do. That's definitely a factor too. But I think another factor is just an overwhelming amount of choices. It's just so many fucking choices. It's so hard to get people to to look try getting people
Starting point is 00:55:49 to switch from an apple phone to an android phone i don't even try i don't even entertain the conversation try to try to get them to do that you know how that cut i like trying a bunch of different stuff you give me a crazy food i'll'll try it. But I will not even find out. People are like, this one flips closed. I'm like, I don't give a anything. You get a number pad above the keyboard. Yeah, cool. Is it an iPhone yet?
Starting point is 00:56:16 Because I'd buy it if it was an iPhone. Isn't that wild? Like, how'd they figure that out? No one wants to be the guy with the green blob, right? Ruin a whole group text. Gordon does that. Really? Gordon has a, yeah, he has a Samsung.
Starting point is 00:56:30 We'll straighten him out. You're not going to straighten him out? So does Brian Simpson. So does Ian Edwards. Those guys all have great bits about it, though. It makes sense. You can only do it if you have that. Well, Brian has all the shit that goes with it, right?
Starting point is 00:56:48 He's got the Galaxy Buds. You know those Galaxy Buds translate languages in real time? Did you know that? Yeah, they can translate. Someone can fucking talk to you in one language, and it'll translate it to you in another language. That's wild. Make sure that's true. I. Make sure that's true.
Starting point is 00:57:07 That's what it says, but I haven't seen anybody use it. I've just seen the commercials saying this. Yeah, nobody uses it. Who wants to talk to a phone? It's too scary. You don't have any friends that speak different languages. Too scary to try to have a conversation with someone hoping that the earbuds
Starting point is 00:57:24 are going to keep up. You initiate a conversation. You're standing there holding your phone like, hold on, hold on, hold on. Buenos dias, mister. I bet the most translated words on that are, what? And say that again. It is dope, though, that you can read people's Instagram posts or tweets. You hit the translate button, it'll translate to English for you.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah, that's how I know what Joanna Yen-Jay checks up to. There's going to come a point in time where that's going to be available all the time. Somehow, whether it's through technology or something, where we all share a language. Is this doing it in real time yes is a company that says they had the this is like a fighting immersive real-time translation can even fight yeah it looks like a bad business trust me with your money imagine going to business with people like that just going to business with a bunch of people just trying to make a ton of money. I think we're going to make this money.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Let's make this money. Let's make this fucking money. That's all they're doing. They can't even fathom. I don't wake up until noon. I can't fathom that kind of life. Well, you've got to realize some people's jobs, they're only trying to make money. Right?
Starting point is 00:58:41 Like a virus. Like if you're a stock trader, all you're trying to do is make money. You're not creating anything. You're just trying to make money right like a virus like if you're a stock trader all you're trying to do is make money you're not creating anything just trying to make money and if you you think of like what's the stereotype for stockbrokers wild dudes are doing coke and crashing their car wolf of wall street right always that's like the stereotype well of course they're just people chasing money that's not a stereotype of a singer or a painter. Unless they're a rock and roll singer. Rock and roll singer is a different kind of singer.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Yeah. Been seeing a lot of that around here lately. Live music. Incredible. I mean, levels to it. Because when I first moved to Austin, I made friends with a ton of musicians and stuff and saw a lot of music but now i'm finding out about the music shows that those musicians go to go
Starting point is 00:59:32 watch and go see yeah i don't think you should blow that up over the podcast oh yeah you're right that's a good point yep it's a little different yeah it's true you don't want to fuck that up but it's a cool vibe because tony goes there and then we all follow him. And then we blow that place up, which I'm not going to say. Yeah, it's already. It's already blown up. We're already blowing it up too much as it is. Oh, you fucking it up already?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yeah, yeah. I just realized. Are you fucking it up on Kill Tony? Is that what you've been doing? No, I don't talk about it on Kill Tony. Where have you talked about it? Nowhere. Just by going there.
Starting point is 01:00:06 That's fine. Word of mouth is fine. Yeah. But word of internet, it's not for everybody. I'm not showing that. Don't show it. Don't show it. Yeah, don't show it.
Starting point is 01:00:16 There's only one bartender. We come in at 1 a.m. There's only one bartender, and we show up every Monday at midnight. That's funny. It's a great vibe. There's a great scene here for all kinds of stuff. It's just a cool town. We're lucky.
Starting point is 01:00:31 We picked a good spot. I'm going to see Roger Waters on October 6th. I can say that for sure. Have you ever seen him live? You know they invented colors and curtains. Anything other than a black curtain was them. On top of all the music that they made. Lasers, inflatables, colors, different colored lights.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Like there wasn't that wasn't a thing. It's all him. Yeah. And so what's cool about that is that he still has that type of mentality of like, what's next? What is what's something entertaining visually that nobody's ever seen to go along with this diabolical music and so you know the last time i saw them a few years ago they had these 3d uh hologram things that like i don't i can't even explain it with words but another thing they have is inflatables that aren't inflatables they're now drones with reflectors on them and things yeah i guess i can't explain that either
Starting point is 01:01:29 but it's it's so crazy that i can't explain it i've seen the imagery because uh you know they did that cnn interview with him where they showed the imagery that he he always had this uh hilarious imagery of trump like Trump as a pig. Yeah, he goes after everybody. Everybody. But he went after Biden. Yeah. And that's what CNN took option with.
Starting point is 01:01:53 And then they had a little bit of a discussion. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting to hear a different perspective of a guy whose father actually died in World War II and has lived that you know he's they've been doing arenas for like 50 years or something crazy well i think he has a real problem with the hypocrisy of people never admitting what the united states has done while talking about what other countries have done and that especially when they're talking about things like china like how little what is he wearing well it's uh this is his life the wall is about World War two and so he acts it out nah there's just parts to it I'm not here
Starting point is 01:02:33 what that sounded like how loud is that gun Dude, that sounds like real blanks. Do you know how irresponsible that is? Let me explain how irresponsible that is. Yeah, there's no way those are real blanks. Let me explain how irresponsible that is. Those are blanks. No, no way.
Starting point is 01:02:58 They're blanks. No, it's a thing that shoots fire out, and the audio is through the speakers. No doubt about it. He's shooting at people. No, he's not. In the crowd 100 well they're getting accustomed to mass shootings next time someone does that they're gonna be like oh this is just a little act last thing roger waters needs is a lawsuit right that's what i'm saying like why would roger waters be acting out shooting into the crowd because he
Starting point is 01:03:20 can't he's a i guess he can't but you know i'm can't. But you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, imagine Roger Waters is a brilliant guy and very, very politically attuned and very, very interesting guy to hear talk about foreign relations. And that interview that he did on CNN was, like, really eye-opening for a lot of people to hear someone like him have it from his perspective but if he was like some crazy trumper and he did a concert and he was shooting off into the crowd like that people would go what the fuck if it was like the my pillow guy if the my pillow guy had a concert and in the concert he pretended to be a nazi And then he shot everybody in the audience. They'd be like, shut this down. The exact same thing. Like if Roger Waters does it, like, oh, this is a cinematic piece he's doing about World War II. It's really amazing.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Yeah. But if the My Pillow guy went up and did that, they stole the 2020 election. They'd be like, this man's a menace to society. He's just shooting blanks into the crowd. It's too close to what we think he'll actually do. Yeah. Isn't that funny? Hilarious.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with what Roger Waters done. Here's what I am saying. When we recognize that someone is a great artist, we allow them to do wild shit like that, like pretend they're a Nazi and shoot into the crowd as a part of a cinematic piece. But if you're just some dude who thinks that the 2020 election was stolen and you sell pillows,
Starting point is 01:04:57 you're not allowed to have the same freedom of expression. You're limited creatively. You are, right? You're not going to listen the same freedom of expression. You're limited creatively. You are, right? You're not going to listen to that guy talk about it. Shut the fuck up. Even if they did steal the election, what's really amazing, and people have figured a way to make it ridiculous to think that anybody would steal an election and it's it's like they have four-year memories right like people forget because they they always
Starting point is 01:05:37 said that Bush stole it from Kerry they gore Oh Oh gore right the bush stole from gore, but that Obama stole it from Kerry right Wasn't that one of them Was it Bush it was Bush Kerry yeah Hanging Chad's thing was first and then it was Bush Kerry no for okay That's like issue with all of them, but the bush Kerry one like people really wanted to look into that Yeah, there was like stuff. There's some evidence really Really? In Ohio is where it happened with the voting machines. Okay. And then there's 2016 where the White House press secretary in 2016 wrote that they stole the election.
Starting point is 01:06:12 She wrote it. And did you ever see her confronted on it? No. You got to see this. It's hilarious. Because that guy, Peter Doocy from Fox News, who always asks the best questions. Like, if you want that show to be entertaining, you want that guy to ask questions. He always catches them.
Starting point is 01:06:28 And so he brings up a tweet of hers from 2016 where she says the election is stolen. While she's talking about how important it is to not entertaining any ideas of the 2020 election being stolen. Like, what? What? 20 election being stolen. Like, what? First of all, what kind of audit have you done where you're so confident that the election has been stolen or has not been stolen? How much work are you doing before you're making these assertions?
Starting point is 01:06:55 Almost zero? They just want it to not be stolen or stolen. Stolen email, stolen drone, stolen election. Welcome to the world of unprecedented Trump. And this is from 2016. But see if you can find the video of Peter Doocy asking her about it, because that's where it's hilarious. She tries to pretend it's a different thing.
Starting point is 01:07:14 That's a different thing! That's a completely different thing. Our side would never do that. That's not what I said. I didn't mean it like that. That's not what I said. I didn't mean it like that. That's actually just a video from Rising where they talk
Starting point is 01:07:30 about it. But if you go to videos, I'm sure there's a... There it is. On the mag of Republicans, you tweeted in 2016 Trump stole an election. I was waiting, Peter, when you were going to ask me that question. Well, here we go. You tweeted Trump stole an election. You tweeted Brian Kemp stole an election. i was waiting peter when you were going to ask me that question well here we go you tweeted trump
Starting point is 01:07:45 stole an election you tweeted brian kemp stole an election if denying election results is extreme now yeah so let's let's be really clear that that comparison that you made is just ridiculous i have been i have been well you're asking me you're asking me a question let me answer it and you said it was ridiculous i was i was talking specifically at that time of what was happening with voting rights and the what was in danger of voting rights that's what i was speaking to at the time he still would have won that but that was silly yeah that was silly well how do you answer that do you say, in 2016, I didn't realize how important it was to not be partisan in your views of election results and to just accept actual real losses as losses?
Starting point is 01:08:36 And that was six years ago, and I'm a different person now. That would be the best answer. That would be an honest answer. They don't play those games there. Even the strategy of her cutting him off mid-question, she knows that she's breaking up the internet clip. I was waiting for this.
Starting point is 01:08:51 He starts again. I was wondering when you were going to... She's messing up her getting called out. They're jousting. They're verbally jousting. That's why he interrupts her too when she says it's ridiculous. Also, her saying that question is ridiculous is ridiculous. That is not a ridiculous question.
Starting point is 01:09:10 That's a very good question. It's a very good question because everybody wants to talk about the – look, is there a person out there that thinks that election fraud is at 0%? Does anybody think it's at zero? No. No, that's provable, right? Right. Because there's always something. Someone always finds some ballots
Starting point is 01:09:35 and someone always finds someone who did something they should have done and someone always finds some fuckery. So what's the percentage? And when are you allowed to talk about it? My point is that just talking about the election results being unfair or or corrupt people will laugh at you. No. Yeah but but it's a trick it's like in order to keep people happy like you have to make it so that the results are accepted and that's it
Starting point is 01:10:05 and we move on and you know our party's got to do better next time we're going to strengthen our resolve and get our shit together but if you think about what is actually happening when people are getting elected like like what percentage is fuckery if you say i can't I can't say there's any fuckery, well, it's not enough to swing the election. Are you sure of that? How much research have you done before you just say not enough fraud
Starting point is 01:10:37 has been perpetrated to swing an election? Because I've done none. This is how much I've done. I've done none. But I also know that people who have've done none this is how this is how much i've done i've done none but i also know that people who have also done none will tell you there's no way they can rig this election i'm like but they do around a little right yeah a little but it's not much you can't swing an election how much is how much does it take to swing an election i I bet they won. I bet they want to know both sides, right? This is they have the money for one that gets me
Starting point is 01:11:08 ID You don't need to show ID to vote But you better have your ID ready and your Vax card if you want to eat in a restaurant Same people same people ID is racist But you need an ID Same people. ID is racist, but you need an ID because you have to do the right thing. It's like they're bearing the weight of this hypocrisy all day long.
Starting point is 01:11:33 It's just blowing their brains out. I found out, read this week that the IRS is finally setting it up so that TurboTax and all these middlemen that people have to go through are going to be null and void because you're going to be able to do your taxes directly with the IRS, which is something that literally everybody, like through a computer you could do it. And that's been something that everybody that's done taxes in the last 15 years has been waiting for and wondering about. And it's just a reminder of how did that happen before the voting thing? Like we should have a clear, easy,
Starting point is 01:12:11 whether it be, you know, ID or social security card or whatever, however to do it. There should be a singular, honest system with a true scoreboard that's very clear and counting and bias should be out. Completely humans counting pieces of paper. It's such a bad idea. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:32 And it's the only way you can ensure widespread fuckery is to keep it like clunky and weird and hard to audit. Yeah. You know, let's go back and check the pieces of paper again. Yeah. We've fucked with, we've managed to fuck this way up really good, so we don't want to switch to another system that we'd have to learn how to fuck up. Well, also, that we might not be able to fuck up.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Yeah. Like, if they leave it in the hands of the computer programmers, the computer programmers are not the same people as the people that are utilizing their software and fucking people over with it. So if you get it to a point where you have things like taxes, computer programmers are going to know whether or not there's fuckery involved. The real people who make these systems are going to know whether or not there's fuckery. And they're not going to go along with it if it's for voting. Yeah, there's too many Edward Snowdens in the tech world. Yes, they're not going to go along with it if it's for voting. Yeah, there's too many Edward Snowdens
Starting point is 01:13:26 in the tech world. Yes, they're not going to go along with it. They'll explain how it can work and why it's being fucked with. But if you're just counting paper, you get away with a lot. Yeah. So that's my question.
Starting point is 01:13:41 It's like, I'm not saying that any elections have ever been stolen. That's not my assertion. But what I am concerned with is that it becomes laughable to question it. Like whenever something. Oh, what do you think? They stole the 2020 election. Come the fuck on with it.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Biden won. OK. He won. He won because he's a better choice. And Trump is an asshole. Yeah. And they just say these things. And this is mostly what people do, including on this podcast, including me.
Starting point is 01:14:12 But most of what people do is they just say something like that. Like, they didn't steal that election. And what was it, like 71 to 72 or something? What do you mean? Million? How many votes? I think it's more. I think, how much did Biden get?
Starting point is 01:14:25 He got the most votes that anybody's ever gotten ever. Just because there's more people now. It's more paper now. Yeah, there are more people now, but I do think that people were very energized to vote because they really thought that Trump represented an existential threat to democracy and to the United States as it is. And that was ramped up and made frothy by the media 81 81 million oh my god trump got 74 so according to them it would take a lot of fuckery
Starting point is 01:14:56 a lot of fuckery to overturn that election yeah it doesn't seem like this one was fucked with too much how would you know see that that's the kind of thing that people will say i would say it too well it's like how do you know let's be honest how would you know it's like all the people that would need a lie like if uh the moon landing didn't happen like how many people would have had to fucking ramp me up with this moon landing hans kim i know what the fuck you're doing. I was trying to pick a... Don't you ramp me up with this moon landing. As time goes on, I become more suspicious. Me too.
Starting point is 01:15:31 They apparently have found some sort of crystal on the moon that China has found that they're going to use for nuclear fusion. You seen that? Yeah, energy source of some kind. Yeah, some kind of energy source. So they're going to mine the moon. Probably with robots. What color is the river going to be now?
Starting point is 01:15:50 China discovered... What? This sounds like a wild headline. I know. That doesn't make any sense. China discovered a new type of moon crystal that might lead to limitless energy. But if you really think about it, these people that we think come here from other planets, all you would need is a few of these inventions over the next thousand years and we have some sort of technology that's beyond our wildest imagination that can conquer space-time like instantaneously, shoot you into other spots in the universe like instantly. These kind of things that people figure out like like that plus 1,000 years time is time travel.
Starting point is 01:16:29 You know? That plus 1,000 years time is the ability to go to anywhere in the universe. Instantly, like a website. Imagine if going to the universe was just like going to a website. Just type in the location and you're there. If you have Wi-Fi and high bandwidth. A little bit clunky at first. You need a cord attached to you at first
Starting point is 01:16:52 and then eventually you go wireless. That's probably 100% how it's going to go down. It's going to get to a point where you literally can just go to spots instantly. It seems like it's inevitable, given our progression. Yeah, whichever element gets here first, we'll eventually be able to utilize it. Like that one element that...
Starting point is 01:17:18 Bob Lazar? Yeah. Yeah, element 115, it's called. It was really theoretical until sometime in the early 2000s. They synthesized it with a particle accelerator. But this element 115 is what Bob Lazar was saying in the 1980s. He was talking about this stuff. And he was saying that they had some sort of stabilized version of this element,
Starting point is 01:17:40 this insane element that allowed them to literally bend time around it. The way he described it is like putting a bowling ball in the center of a soft mattress and it would just bend time around it. And that's how they traveled with these things. Traveled using this element in this weird reactor. Wild. But it's like if we think about who we are now think about being a person in 2022 and all the wild technology we have available to us where is this gonna go it's gonna go to that it's gonna
Starting point is 01:18:15 go to some insane ability to travel intergalactically it's gonna go to us being immortal it's gonna go to us being able to create universes. Humans, if we live 100 million years, how goddamn smart are we going to be? I mean, if human beings figure out how to integrate with technology and this species stays alive for another 100 million years, which the dinosaurs did hundreds of millions of years. They were dumb as fuck. They were dumb as fuck. They were dumb as fuck. But if we kept evolving over hundreds of millions of years, and if there's
Starting point is 01:18:52 a time period where the Earth doesn't get hit with a comet over that amount of time, we could become gods. If we're just information, and you can send information at the speed of light, you could send your information to Mars and they could reprint you. And then you could be, that's technically teleporting maybe.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Technically. Well, or you could actually just go there. Maybe there's like an object that you get into and that object is protected by this element 115 and just go there. Maybe it doesn't matter if you go through walls maybe it doesn't matter all that stuff's nonsense go through things go anywhere just be in the bottom of the ocean wasn't you that said that early on they were like afraid that they didn't think human bodies could go faster than 35 miles per hour yes yes that was railroads they were worried
Starting point is 01:19:42 during the implementation the first I mean not smart people But right some people were thinking that if you get people going faster than 35 miles an hour their bodies are just compressed Get crushed Cheetahs run at 60. Yeah, but they're cheetahs. We're bitch-ass fucking humans What if you have to go like this on an air train just to the aerodynamic? You have to go like this on a train just to be aerodynamic. And everybody fucked it up for the rest of us would be mad at them. Put your fucking hands forward.
Starting point is 01:20:12 You see people flying. Yeah. I don't want the wind to get us. You got to be a crazy person to get on that train and just travel across the country back then when they would shoot buffaloes out the window and stuff. Yeah. I was watching the new House of Dragons last night. I haven't kept up. No spoilers.
Starting point is 01:20:30 No spoilers. But the carriage rides and the boat trips are a little more realistic in this than old, like maybe Game of Thrones kind of. And what hell. I mean, boats back then we yeah i know a lot of people that still are like i won't get on that cruise ship are you crazy meanwhile these guys were just facing the waves hoping that the wind picks up so that you could put your giant blanket up in the air and catch the wind you know what i mean like crazy yeah and you don't know if a storm's coming there's no stupid meteorologists like big stuff coming ahead make a left
Starting point is 01:21:10 turn you don't even know what's in the ocean you think it's filled with monsters right it's dark out dude it's dark out and you just look in the in the ocean they did not have like a good account of all the sea creatures that was just pure guesswork that's why so much of like the artwork from that area, when that part of the world, that part of that time in the world, you see ships and monsters, like octopus arms,
Starting point is 01:21:36 grab the Kraken, grabbing the boat. Do you think that could have been real 500 years ago? Because maybe the animals were different. Maybe we killed them with our boats. Well, they do think that there was something like a kraken. And the reason why is because they found some fossilized suction cups from a tentacle of some sort of cephalopod that was enormous, like really big.
Starting point is 01:22:01 And they do know that there's giant squids. Like you've seen giant octopus and giant squids. They get pretty big. And they do know that there's giant squids. Like you've seen giant octopus and giant squids. They get pretty big. But these things, this was like way bigger than this. It was like a hundred foot long thing that had giant tentacles. So they're finding these suction cups like this big. And I think they found them in current days, they found suction cup wounds on animals like on things like whales and stuff like that where they're so big that they were trying to figure out is that really an octopus that did that is there an octopus down there that fucking big i mean if it died it'd just go to the bottom we wouldn't find any evidence if yeah, if they really get them, if there's
Starting point is 01:22:46 an octopus that's that big. Like, see, find out what the kraken thing was, the fossilized kraken thing. How big they think that was. And then let's figure out how big they think they are now. So these are the fossils.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Found in Nevada, it says. Oh, shit. shit which is crazy the bodies to be under the ocean I can't tell how big that piece of paper does it say anything how big it is Kraken sea monster account bizarre and miraculous claims of an art artistic crack and a giant sea monster called Fun but Implausible. The curious... Why is it saying it's... 49 feet. Based on the size of the bone,
Starting point is 01:23:32 scientists estimate the ithyosaurs grew to the length of 49 feet. I don't think that's the same fossil. I think they're talking about a different fossil. That's it. There you go. Did the kraken exist after all?. There you go. Did the kraken exist? After all, as the story goes, the mythical kraken
Starting point is 01:23:48 was an ancient tentacled sea monster that ate whales and devoured entire ships. In 2011, researchers found the remains of a marine lizard that had been arranged in a strange pattern by what they claimed was a giant kraken-style octopus
Starting point is 01:24:04 playing with its food. These claims were widely criticized, but now new fossils discovered by the same researchers add further weight to the theory that the kraken not only existed, but that he used his prey... Oh, what? But that he used his prey's bones as art. What? That's crazy smart his prey's bones as art. What? That's crazy smart.
Starting point is 01:24:27 That's the same picture. Yeah, interesting. But it's a cephalopod. Because I think the other one called it a different thing. Aethiosaur? Ate that aethiosaur and that's what. Ah, that's it. There it is.
Starting point is 01:24:39 The latest discoveries include a break of what is believed to be an ancient cephalopod. Oh, a beak. What is believed to be an ancient cephalopod. Oh, a beak of what is believed to be an ancient cephalopod. As well as more bones ranged in unusual patterns and shapes. Huh. Well, how would they know that that existed? And then now we're finding evidence of it. Like back in the 1500s. I mean, they also had terrible versions of whales back then, too.
Starting point is 01:25:06 When you say what existed, look at that. Imagine if that was what really happened. Something just grabs your boat and just pulls all the people off it. They would have had people that made past stories of myths. Like, you should have seen what the fuck we saw out there. But now let's find out what is the largest giant octopus that's alive today. So if there's one today that's, like, 50 feet long, it just makes sense that there would be a 100-foot long one in the past.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Like, if you think about a megalodon. Yeah. Especially that many millions of years ago. Yeah. Dude, everything was giant back then. What a fucked up time to be alive. Imagine you get a roll of the dice You wake up at 70 million years ago
Starting point is 01:25:47 30 feet, 600 pounds For octopus 600 pound octopus 30 feet long Now imagine if that thing decides to eat you Imagine if you're scuba diving And a 600 pound octopus Decides to eat you
Starting point is 01:26:04 Guess what, you're getting eaten You're getting eaten scuba diving, and a 600-pound octopus decides to eat you, guess what? You're getting eaten. Yeah. You're getting eaten. Eight arms. Oh, my God. Wait nearly a ton. Even if you escape seven arms of it,
Starting point is 01:26:14 and just that one last one right as your foot's getting away. A giant squid. Oh. That can't be real. That's not real. That's not real. But a giant squid, the biggest one ever, was 43 feet long, 13 meters long, and may have
Starting point is 01:26:28 weighed nearly a ton. So a 2,000 pound squid, and there's you in your underwear with a spear gun looking like a dork. Could you imagine? Either you get killed or you have calamari for life. Look at the size of that thing. If that thing was coming after you, if you were one of those dudes
Starting point is 01:26:46 who likes to go catch lobsters, you'd be fucked. Oh, yeah. I got a spear gun just in case anybody fucks with me. And a 600-pound squid comes your way. Oh, no. Aim for the eye.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Oh, no. We are taking you... What happened? It's on video. I don't know if it's the same one. Oh, they have a video of it? Yeah, caught in the deep. How much jiu-jitsu would you have to know to defeat that one?
Starting point is 01:27:08 It's not gonna help, bro. Something at 600 pounds, or this, in this case, as many as 2,000 pounds, nearly a ton. You're fucked, buddy. Yeah. It's like it's not, there's not a damn thing you can do. I would still- Look at that thing. What is it grabbing a hold of? What is that thing that it's holding on to?
Starting point is 01:27:27 It was huge. The video of the 20-foot giant squid 100 miles off of New Orleans captured the public's attention. 20 feet looks pretty big. People are very interested in this kind of thing. Oh, my God. That's so incredible. Yeah. Dude, just imagine being down there because those things are predatory.
Starting point is 01:27:47 You know, there's a great video of an aquarium. And inside the aquarium, they were trying to figure out what had happened to all the sharks. Sharks kept getting killed. Like, what the fuck is going on? Are they cannibalizing each other? So they set a camera and watched octopus jack sharks. They would just jack these sharks. Sharks would come by.
Starting point is 01:28:06 They're like, ah, whoosh. Just wrap them up tight and kill them. And they're like, what? Imagine they didn't even know that that happened. This is how recently goofy people are. You have a shark tank with octopuses, and you don't even know that octopi eat shark. Is it octopi or octopuses?
Starting point is 01:28:26 Octopi. Look at this. Look how he got some. Bitch, you're going nowhere. All right. Who wins? Wild? Octopus, giant octopus, or Gordon Ryan?
Starting point is 01:28:38 Depends on where it's taking place. Land or sea. Yeah. And whether or not he's armed. Yeah. You have to have like have like well we catch them I bet they've caught how many people
Starting point is 01:28:49 do you think all told have ever died by giant squid that's a good question do you think it's recorded back in history
Starting point is 01:28:59 when we were not that strong I bet they looked at us as prey why don't you google this have giant squid killed people
Starting point is 01:29:04 I say they'd look to this as prey why don't you google this of giant squid kill people I say they have I say a couple divers ate it what do you think yeah I mean somebody had to have been if they're catching sharks then maybe one person yes I'm dork yeah some dork with a fucking I a fucking surfboard and a kite. Yeah. One of them guys. You know? Some dude who's just somewhere in a fucking raft trying to fish in the middle of the ocean. One of them little, like, inner tube rafts. Yeah. Just out there kicking.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Just kicking. It's really great. I'm really, you know, I'm in the tide and everything. The fish will leave me alone for the most part. Really connected with the water. Yeah. Everyone knows a prey when they see it. I guarantee you someone's been eaten by a giant squid.
Starting point is 01:29:52 I just feel like that. It says they've been reported since ancient times, but it also then says a significant portion of these attacks are questionable or unverified tabloid stories. Hmm. That's people trying not to sound the alarm. That's the government trying to not be an alarmist. They don't want us to freak out
Starting point is 01:30:10 about the fact that squids are out there eating people. Yeah. It says someone on the Staten Island ferry was supposedly attacked one time. I believe that. Goodness, has it ever occurred? Staten Island, I don't know. That sounds like a New Yorker on mushrooms or something like that.
Starting point is 01:30:28 You know, in New York, the Hudson Bay, the Hudson River, they used to get lobsters out of it. In the 1960s, divers would willingly grapple octopuses in octopus. So it is octopuses. So we get to Gordon Ryan and grapple an octopus, though. It really would. Octopus wrestling, a then popular sport on the coast of the United States. In octopus. So it is octopuses. So we get to see Gordon Ryan grapple an octopus, though. It really would. In octopus wrestling. A then popular sport on the coast of the United States. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:30:49 They would wrestle octopuses. That's a big one. 1963 championships. That's a big one. Imagine Gordon. 1963 World Octopus Wrestling Championships. That's hilarious, dude. He's pretty jacked.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Bro, that's hilarious. We should get that made as a photo we should get that made as well as metal metal photos let's do that save that photo please in april 63 111 divers took part in the world octopus wrestling championships one time that's back before the internet people did a lot of wild shit. Yeah. They needed to be entertained. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:29 When they weren't arm wrestling, they were out there chasing octopi, octopieces. They brought up chess earlier during jiu-jitsu
Starting point is 01:31:39 and I didn't want to side rail this, but did you hear about this? Yeah, I know this whole story. If you don't know, there's this 19-year-old
Starting point is 01:31:44 kid who's this chess prodigy, and he beat Magnus Carlsen, who's the number one player. Denies you... Chess Grandmaster denies cheating by using anal beads, which is hilarious. I think Elon was the reason why that rumor got spread,
Starting point is 01:32:00 right? He's been... Someone offered him to try to play naked, a million dollars to play naked to see if he could still do it. Oh, my God. Well, I mean, even if you played naked, you still. Naked with a camera up your asshole. Some guy that doesn't know how anal beats works came up with that idea. Play with your back arched.
Starting point is 01:32:19 So this kid who beat the world number one, Magnus Carlsen, he started out cheating when he was a kid. So when he was 12, he cheated on chess.com. Apparently, what is their assertion? What are they saying, that he's cheated the whole time? Yeah, when I heard the story first, I heard that he had a track record of it. But this is a very unique way of cheating, I believe. Oh, the anal beads thing?
Starting point is 01:32:47 Morse code. Yeah, but I don't think there's any, there's no one. Evidence, right? No, that's just people being silly, trying to sell clicks. But the thing that's real is that this guy did admit that he cheated earlier in his life. And he was saying how he had cheated when he was younger, right? I'm looking for some other proof of that right now as you're saying it I just read that or heard it when I was looking into this the other day I'm pretty sure that's
Starting point is 01:33:12 what was said is it just AI because AI is so much better at chess than humans now I don't know how he cheated but what I would assume you one would do if they wanted to cheat at a chess game online is these guys can memorize all the patterns and the grids and all the moves and where things go. And they could just do a separate game that's not connected to the internet right next to it with all those pieces and the game would suggest what to do. I'm sure there's way more sophisticated ways of cheating that these guys could utilize if they wanted to. But if you just, if you're a chess person and you have a game that's playing on, you could recreate that game next to it easily.
Starting point is 01:33:54 So if you just recreated that game with some sort of a computer system, the computer would say, oh, do that dummy. Super easily. Yeah. Put that shit over there. And then you do it. Like, I'm sure there's like a time limit that they have to move right is that how it works yeah yeah the little thing you've hit is it all speed chess uh yeah I think so I think there's a time limit always yeah I have no
Starting point is 01:34:17 idea just guessing yeah just say it with assertion, though. Say it like you really mean it. Chess is a scary game. So he had been banned from a site. Yeah, chess.com. Yeah, for cheating and banned from playing in prize money tournaments for a period of time. He made some other comments about grandmasters in general having sort of closed-door conversations speculating that Hans might be cheating. And then the next day, sort of the ball started to unravel and people were speculating about what was going on
Starting point is 01:34:50 and that's where things took off. He was the lowest ranked player at that tournament. Then he beat the top ranked player in the world. That's why people are going crazy, I guess. Well, I think the people that believe he's really good, the people that believe he was legitimate in that tournament, are believing that he's obsessed with chess, that he's playing like 16 hours a day for years,
Starting point is 01:35:14 and now he's reached this very, very high level. When you hear him talk about chess, he obviously knows a lot about chess. But the people that are suspicious, they're right too, because he did cheat a lot. He cheated more than once. It's not like a thing he's never done before. He did once and he felt real bad and said never again. No, he was cheating.
Starting point is 01:35:35 So he's obviously at least a few years ago was full of shit. How does a rumor like the anal beats thing really get started though? Like someone was in the restroom. Someone was in the bathroom, and they're like, ugh. If you want me to move the queen, give me a prostate orgasm. Also, like, how— Ooh, checkmate. Oh. How much studying would you have to do about Morse code?
Starting point is 01:36:02 It seems like you'd really have to learn that. That seems like that would take some time too like there'd be an evidence there'd be a trail of evidence of you learning morse code trailer you know i mean it's not like you could just learn morse code that's it's it's pretty complex it's like sos yeah is What is it like? One, two, one, two, three, one, two. Is that what it is? Yeah. Dot dash. But is it one, two, one, two, three?
Starting point is 01:36:32 Is that how it goes? One, two, one, two, three, one, two. I think that's SOS. That might not be right. If you're getting trapped on an island, don't rely on me. But that is just three letters. Now memorize words. Now memorize positions.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Now memorize moves. Now memorize how to take kings and brooks and what? What the fuck are you talking about? With a butt bead? And you're going to count while you're also playing chess? What? I mean, do you want to count while you're also playing chess? What? I mean, do you want to be the best in the world? There's only one way.
Starting point is 01:37:11 If I was going to test those guys for anything, I'd test them for drugs. I wonder what percentage of them are microdosing. You'd have to to be the best. You wouldn't have to. I mean, I guarantee you that a lot of those guys are probably not taking anything. They're just obsessed with chess. Yeah. Somebody told us that Magnus Carlsen.
Starting point is 01:37:33 They're on the WADA test list. Oh, look at this. They're not. Chess players are tested for drugs that appear on the World Anti-Doping Agency banned list. There's more than 100 substances on the banned list. anti-doping agency banned list. There's more than 100 substances on the banned list. These include steroids,
Starting point is 01:37:47 EPO, amphetamines, diuretics, tranquilizers, beta blockers, cocaine, Ventolin inhalers, etc. I wonder how often they're tested. Interesting. Anal beads is not on the list. Anal beads, not on the list.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Is it cheating if it's not on your list imagine if the move that someone transmitted to him was just one really long like hard as a rock like he just nuts as he's moving it
Starting point is 01:38:17 he gets stuck he just keeps nutting while he's moving his little pieces around the table. Apparently they are allowed to get prescriptions for modafinil and Ritalin. Okay, so modafinil, which is, is that that new vigil stuff? New vigil provoge. Yeah. And methylphenidate.
Starting point is 01:38:43 Which is Ritalin. Interesting. And Ritalin. Interesting. And Ritalin is also a stimulant. Participants in the study were dosed with these drugs, and then their chess playing abilities were observed. While the drugs resulted in test subjects playing more slowly, they also increased their performance. Oh, I'm sorry. This says they can help them. I thought when I was reading it, it said they could use it.
Starting point is 01:39:03 Okay. These are drugs that can help compete. Using modafinil improved players' results by 15%. Wow. While Ritalin improved results by 13%. The fact these drugs slowed down gameplay is the crux of why they help player performance. This suggests that neuroenhancers did not enhance the quality of thinking and decision-making per time unit, the authors wrote, but improve the player's ability or willingness to spend more time on a decision and hence to perform more thorough calculations. Very interesting.
Starting point is 01:39:37 That is interesting. I wonder why they think that it makes them do that. I guess it makes you probably take in more of the options. If your brain is more fired up, instead of concentrating on one option, maybe you look at all the potential options to find the right one. And you're not distracted by your anal beads. Yeah. What if that just sets you straight?
Starting point is 01:40:01 You think it's going to distract you, like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm good. Caffeine. It turns out caffeine improved by 9%, so it wasn't even that far off just drinking so coffee nine percent what of it is it stack if it's stackable you're like 30 on your way to winning you know but sometimes like you over stack and then you hit that point of diminishing returns. Yeah. That's a real thing in stand-up comedy, being over-caffeinated for sure. The third hit before you go on stage.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Oh, yeah. Oh, no. What have we done? What have we done going into the dark lands? It's always funny how Ron's like, I'm not going to do it tonight. Come on, Ron White. We're here to get high. Then he watches us all hit the blunt.
Starting point is 01:40:50 He's like, all right, just a couple hits here. We're here to get high, Ron White. He's sharper than ever now that he's not drinking, though. It's wild, man. It's crazy. I mean, it's like, I don't even know what it's comparable to. That guy did stand up with a drink in his hand and drinking all day and the rest of that night forever. For 30 years.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Yeah. Yeah. And now he's sharper than ever. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the thing about comedy, man. It doesn't matter how old you are. If you're still concentrating on it, you're going to get better.
Starting point is 01:41:29 And if now all of a sudden you've cleared your health up because you're not either hungover or drunk all the time, now you have more energy for stuff. You have more energy to think about bits. You have more energy to work on your act. And you're more present. Touring doesn't crush you as much. Right. You know,
Starting point is 01:41:47 when we drink on the road, I'm way more hurting than when we just travel. Oh, yeah. We travel. It's pretty easy. It's fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Boozing as well, it's like, yikes. You gotta be careful. Yeah. That's why I love stand-up comedy. It's not like jujitsu or chess where like a 19-year-old
Starting point is 01:42:04 can beat you. It's like, the more time units chess where a 19-year-old can beat you. The more time units you have to focus on it, the better you get. That's one thing for sure. But there are people that are special talents that right away they're good, which is really interesting to me. Because that's always the case in music. That's the case in some sports. It's the case in a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:42:22 There's people that come out of the gate really good. But one thing, there's so much to learn. There's so much to learn. To be a really good comic, it takes so long. I was reminded this past weekend of the correlation of late nights and hilariousness. I always forget, like, Chappelle goes late. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:43 I always forget, like, Chappelle goes late, you know what I mean? Yeah. And we had a lot of very, very hilarious and intellectual, but mostly hilarious conversations the other night at the steakhouse deep into the night. Yeah, we got out of there at, like, 4 o'clock in the morning. Yeah. It was so fun, though. So much fun.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Great conversations. Yeah, they let Chappelle smoke cigarettes anywhere he goes. That's awful. Cigarettes? Someone's a snitch. Wait, what? That was awesome, though. It was just such a cool weekend to be able to go and do that arena and then go to see jiu-jitsu, UFC, and boxing all in one night
Starting point is 01:43:27 and then go eat and then hang out until 4 o'clock in the morning. Like, what the fuck, man? This is incredible. So much fun. Yeah. I mean, when the store was at its peak a few years ago, I mean, that's just how it was. We were just, there was a giant group of us that uh were there yeah and during its you know comeback era that whole growth period there were nights where you know barris and everybody
Starting point is 01:43:55 were on stage until forever always right there was always like those late night brody sets late night don baris sets. Yeah. Yeah, it's like part of what a really good club has. It's not just the performances, but it's also the hang. Yeah, for sure. Where it feels like it's a place for you to be socially as well as a place for you to go and perform. So you get to meet up with all the people that are also doing it. And there's not a lot of us.
Starting point is 01:44:29 And all of us, when we get together and just laugh together, it's so much fun. Yeah, painters never meet up like that. I wonder if they do. At galleries, do they meet each other at galleries and give each other shit eyes? They're not as developed in the way that comedians play that game because we're around each other all the time and we have to check our egos and do all that shit uh around other artists is that what
Starting point is 01:44:53 you're doing all the time hans kim checking your ego we're just having a good time hans is over there checking his ego i was i said to him i brought up the other day because it hit me, that comedians also, it's the only art form in which you bring each other up. Musicians don't just have a fast transfer where you're riding the momentum of the musician before you. There's these breakdowns and resets and everything like that. resets and everything like that uh and you're riding you know the wave or making jokes about the person that was just on in front of you or the theme of the you know what i mean or what's happening in the room right yeah for sure yeah it's very communal and that and especially when we did it the way we did it at an arena yeah you know it's almost like wrestling it's like a team for the night but every it's only one person out there at once.
Starting point is 01:45:45 One of the things that Dave said at the end of the night, I thought that was really interesting. He said that just felt like a comedy show. It's like we turned an arena into like a comedy club. Yeah. It just felt like a regular comedy club, but just like thousands of people. It was really fun. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:03 That was one of my favorite moments ever. It was so magic and you realize like whatever you have to do in life that can create that like that's if that's possible what an incredible thing that you could just by your mere presence just showing up on stage when they didn't expect you and the love that pours out of people and the happiness that pours out of people yeah they're so pumped and we're better than the middle of ohio yeah state with so many major cities where he's from where i'm from where jamie's from where red band's from. There's so many fucking people from Ohio. Like, holy shit, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:48 It's a real, it's a heart. It's like the heart of America. Oh. No, it is. You should run for governor. No, seriously. Oh, seriously? Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:46:58 All of a sudden Tony won't joke around. No, seriously. It is. No, guys. No playing around when we talk about Ohio. People sleep on Ohio. They get it confused with like Iowa and Oklahoma and other states with O's and fucking I's. Ohio's a shit.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Oklahoma can suck it. Well, they can. I mean, there's no comparing those two. But yeah. The only time Tony Sirius is about Ohio and Ohio football. That's true. Ohio State football. Yeah, he gets very serious about his Ohio roots, which I find very odd.
Starting point is 01:47:34 Most Ohioans do. That you don't joke around about. Yeah. Get very upset. Yeah. I think it's a good place to be from. I don't think staying there your whole life is the idea. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:46 What about moving back to it? Do you think you could ever move back to Columbus? Hell no. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Hell no. So it's a place you have to escape. Yes.
Starting point is 01:47:57 But don't you think there's value in growing up at a place that you want to escape? Without a doubt. Yeah. I think if you grow up in like Beverly Hills, it's kind of tough to try to aspire to live in Beverly Hills still. Right. Because that's what you're aspiring to, staying in Beverly Hills. One thing I learned living in LA for 16 years
Starting point is 01:48:17 was that a lot of those kids that are born there, the only sideways move is New York, New Yorkork city like that's where they want to go right and they just end up sort of like these like you know not fully functional because they're they're now they're in new york with people that have lived in new york you know yeah get it the bustle and the they move at a different speed we all We all know California is a little more like hippie and slow and chill. And so then there's sort of like a deer in headlights. It's like hard to thrive if you're from a super comfortable place like that. Well, if you're from one of those super comfortable places and everyone around you is just trying
Starting point is 01:48:59 to just make money, right? And so if your family's in the finance business and then you go and get involved in finance in new york or something like that like you're just in the money machine business like if you can just find a way to make money doing something you love oh it's so much better so much it's ideal all those finance bros wish they had their money and also a thing. Yeah. Whatever that thing is, whether they wanted to play baseball or golf or, you know, there's so many people that want to do something other than what they're doing. That's a fucking shit way to live, man. You know, that sucks.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Yeah. It's most people. Well, you know, it's evolving the thing that do the to the way that you want to do it too there's ways to do that you know so i don't know if you're in like the stock market you could start your own thing or work on a different time schedule or you know make it your own lobby to pass marijuana legislation so you could open up your own business absolutely that's that's i was getting i was getting that that's what's going to change people legalize drugs if one day we wake up and say the only way to stop the rise of the cartel and to stop all these deaths from overdose from these fucked up drugs because they're you know mixing
Starting point is 01:50:27 fentanyl and everything they only would do that to be legalized and regulated in the united states and if they legalized and regulated cocaine and heroin and and then psychedelics that'd be the big one yeah that would change everything that would change everything about our culture if people just had regular legal easily accessible psychedelic experiences yeah it's a part of it yeah it would drag the people that do it would drag everyone else down with their awesome art. Or not down, but to be like, look, this is also a possibility. And they would be able to utilize the benefits of psychedelics without having to do them just by looking at the art. Well, I think people need some resets and escapes. You get that from art.
Starting point is 01:51:21 You get that from psychedelics. You get that from experiences. You get it from a lot of different things. But the way you get it from psychedelics, it's not appreciated by most people for how strong it really is. or DMT or anything like that can have on you. It's not appreciated by people who haven't done it because they don't really know. They don't really know what the big deal is all about. But if they just made that legal and it became way more prevalent and then people started doing it all the time to resolve issues,
Starting point is 01:51:57 to figure themselves out, to work on themselves, to try to become more balanced, it will change everything. Everything. Everything. Everything. Yeah. I did Mushrooms with Danny Brown a few weeks ago, and we had so much fun.
Starting point is 01:52:15 Danny Brown's hilarious. Yes. His Tom Segura show, the Your Mom's House Network thing, is really fucking funny. Yeah, the Danny Brown show. He's so funny. He just riffs. He just riffs on shit.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Yeah, and I've always been a big rap fan and everything, and he's a big comedy fan. So when he comes around to kill Tony, we interject him in. He's been a guest numerous times. He's great. But anyway, it was my first time really just having a pool day, like chilling with eight people over.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Everybody was eating mushrooms, andy ate a lot of mushrooms i mean a fucking lot and i was tripping my balls off and something he kept doing was he's like you need to eat more you ain't even eat enough so like every like 20 or 30 minutes i'd be like daydreaming, staring at a tree, and Danny would come out from behind it like, you ain't even tripping, fool. He's the best. Meanwhile, those are so illegal. That's what's nuts. Mushrooms.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you stub your toe, you can get a quack doctor to prescribe you oxycodone. But mushrooms, off limits. They're doing some good studies on them now, though. They're really starting to understand, like John Hopkins did. They have some work they've done on psilocybin mushrooms. And a lot of people are doing work on MDMA now.
Starting point is 01:53:39 That's getting interesting because they're using it to help people with PTSD, like soldiers, come back from the war with, you know, real troubled minds. Those have been two of the most effective ways of handling that for these folks. Yeah. Now they can contribute to society and they have such rich experience. They can start businesses. Yeah, they can do a lot of things. And they just get over whatever the fuck they're on. And they just get over whatever the fuck they're on.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Whatever trauma you've had in your life or whatever weird thing you have in your life that keeps tripping you up. Oftentimes, a psychedelic experience will let you reset and look at that thing and go, oh, I see where I'm fucking up. And you get a top-down look in your life. That's why we have to keep you off Coke, Hans. I've been thinking about this. I want to pull you aside today have you ever done coke yeah how many times like 17 17 wow that's a magic number that's so specific oh my goodness i believe it yeah for sure he's counting dear diary today dose 15 what's like the most you've
Starting point is 01:54:42 ever done like is it like like do you ever go on a bender or anything like that no i just did it i did a couple bumps uh it just feels uh it feels good i mean i didn't get high the first couple times i did it you didn't get high no what happened i was just like yeah i did coke oh just like got high on the the statement yeah um but yeah what happened what happened the third time it doesn't feel good i don't like the high it's just sort of like this sort of fucks things up a little bit how's it do it show me again my work my wonder rather is uh if you're getting coke or if you're getting like some sort of coke mixed with a bunch of other shit and i would say most likely you're getting coke or if you're getting like some sort of coke mixed with a bunch
Starting point is 01:55:25 of other shit and i would say most likely you're getting coke mixed with a bunch of other shit yeah uh did you ever meet tom who worked at uh cobs back in the day tom sawyer he was a guy who ran it i don't think so he would uh tell me about like guys would have rock star coke those guys who used to do coke like in the 60s and 70s, they know about Rockstar Coke where they'd get like pure Coke. And he's like, you can get Rockstar Coke? Rockstar Coke is amazing. I'm like, what's the difference?
Starting point is 01:55:54 He's like, well, Rockstar Coke is just pure Coke. It's like pure fucking energy. This other stuff is like mixed with like amphetamines and laxatives. You're trying to get high. You're just getting tricked. So you're snorting all this white fucking creatine and all kinds of other shit. Like creatine is one of the things they mix coke with. Because it kind of looks a little cokie.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Back in the day, they didn't think enough to be like, we could make more money if we just pour more shit in there. Well, this is the grossest thing about this movement to make all these drugs illegal. Is that the versions of them that you're getting are heavily stepped on by criminals. Because they're the only people that are going to sell coke. And they're not going to sell you like ethics amongst drug lords. We're like, our cocaine is pure. We do not cut it at all. My friend, you're going to my friend. You're gonna love it You have to take whatever they sell you yeah
Starting point is 01:56:50 And it sucks that because you can't you can't really trust them and you also on the other extreme you I wouldn't trust Pfizer's cocaine So I we need someone like right in the middle there Pfizer's cocaine, they would probably deny that it was addictive for like a decade. They'd go, no. What? It is not. It is not. It helps people pay attention. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:57:13 It is not addictive. What are you saying? The doctor is selling it. What are you saying? It is not. It's as believable as the White House press secretary. As believable as the White House press secretary. Yeah, if they had those packages right from the plants in Columbia,
Starting point is 01:57:36 when they do those documentaries, when they see them making the Coke, you know how they use gasoline and shit? Yeah, to separate it. How bad is it? Joey Diaz says he can taste the gasoline. You take the fucking, that diesel coke. The supreme. If you could get it, like, right there, like, from the factory,
Starting point is 01:57:55 I wonder how much better it would be. Yeah. Is there, like, a high-end way to refine it where they don't involve gasoline? Like, if they sold it in America, would it be possible to make even pure cocaine? With some sort of alcohol or maybe gasoline is just awesome. We underestimate it It is for sure it's gasoline is awesome. No, no what you were saying Did it sound like you yeah, it did it's did. It sounded like you were agreeing with Hans. That's what everybody around the world. Really?
Starting point is 01:58:27 I was like, gasoline is the shit. We've been lied to. That's what the rest of the world thinks America is, a bunch of guys sitting around going, gasoline is awesome. Yeah, man. We're forming teams, Team electric and team combustion vehicle. All these dudes with little dick energy that yell at you if you don't have an electric car. I love electric cars.
Starting point is 01:58:55 The problem is not cars. It's the people that want you to get an electric car. I can't hear them complaining over the sound of my exhaust. Dorks. See, they're not dorks. The cars are awesome electric cars are fucking amazing kind of but the problem is there's there's specific people that become evangelists for anything whether it's electric car and climate change and the inevitability the collapse of civilization or whatever, whatever their thing is.
Starting point is 01:59:26 And then they are so annoying that they make you not want to have anything to do with their perspective. And there's a lot of people like that when it comes to electric cars and climate change. It's like, how much work have you done studying this? You're espousing it like we're all going to die. You know they've been doing this back and forth forever? For decades people have been doing this back and forth forever for decades people doing this is look oh fucking deep freeze is coming well I've always been saying that I say just coming this is coming that's coming
Starting point is 01:59:53 this it's never been stable this fucking planet has never been stable ever not once it's not like it's like for the next 100 million years that never got above 85 degrees it's a wonderful place to be alive. And human beings live sustainably in a zero carbon footprint world. That's never happened. It's not going to happen. Our problem is we like to live right next to the water. That's our number one problem.
Starting point is 02:00:19 That's not good. That shit comes back and forth. We always find cities under there. Why are you still living there it's such a dumb place to live like right next to the ocean if you have a second house that's the baller place to have the second house you get on your patio look at the ocean i'm right on the it come get me I rented a house once in Malibu in like five, six years ago.
Starting point is 02:00:52 We were getting our kitchen redone and we got this place on the water. It was really cool. But at night it was terrifying. The same place. Like during the day it looked amazing. So blue and beautiful. And at night it just looked dark and terrifying. And I'm like, well, how weird is that? It's the exact same thing. It is a blue and beautiful. And at night, it's just dark and terrifying. And I'm like, well, how weird is that?
Starting point is 02:01:08 It's the exact same thing. It is a totally different feel. When you're going to sleep right next to the ocean, it is such a dumb move. It's so dumb. At any moment. Okay, if there's an earthquake in the middle of the night, are you going to wake up? Are you going to wake up in time to get in your fucking boat and survive the tsunami that's going to overcome your house? What are you talking about, bitch?
Starting point is 02:01:30 And by the way, even if you're in a boat, the water's going to be so crazy, the boat's going to flip. You're going to drown. You've got to get the fuck out of here. You can't be by the water, asshole. It's like putting your phone next to a bathtub that's moving. Yeah. And you're moving around, too, and your kids are playing in's moving. Yeah, and you're moving around too,
Starting point is 02:01:45 and your kids are playing in the room. It's just a matter of time before shit happens. It's just a matter of time before there's some kind of a big earthquake that causes a tsunami, or there's some sort of super volcano, or there's some sort of a comet impact. There's going to be some shit.
Starting point is 02:02:03 Don't live near the ocean. It's such a stupid place to be. And that's where all the rich people want to be. You want to get up in the morning and have coffee and just look out at those seagulls. Yeah. Did you see there was almost a big hurricane in L.A. but it just didn't hit that hard, I guess, a couple weeks ago? L.A.?
Starting point is 02:02:20 Yeah. I didn't know that L.A. ever got hurricanes. I didn't either. Is that a new thing because of climate change? Dun, dun, dun. I think the climate is changing. Don't get me wrong, ladies and gentlemen. It's called Hurricane K.
Starting point is 02:02:35 I also think people are fucking crazy, and they're going to latch on to this climate change thing. That's their move socially. Satellite photos. Trying to get an image. Hurricane K. It's pretty big. That's pretty unusual, right? their move socially. Satellite photos. Trying to get an image of people. Hurricane K. Huh. See, it's pretty big. Whoa.
Starting point is 02:02:46 That's pretty unusual, right? How unusual is a hurricane on the West Coast? Seems pretty unusual. Yeah, I thought they called them something different if it was in the Pacific, but I don't think
Starting point is 02:02:59 that's the case either. Some sort of a non-binary gender. No, like it was a typhoon if it was in the Pacific and aoon if it was in the Pacific. Typhoon sounds very aggressive. I don't like it. Typhina.
Starting point is 02:03:11 Or a cyclone. Oh, cyclone sounds best. No? Yeah, Pacific Ocean. It's called a typhoon apparently. I mean, the air is though. Pacific Hurricane, we call it a typhoon. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:03:23 So they just called it a hurricane for a goof? I don't know. It's a hurricane on the west coast. You mean the east coast, right? Both coasts. It looks like on the picture. A few years, every few years. Oh.
Starting point is 02:03:36 So what is the difference between a hurricane and a typhoon? It's just a naming thing. I think they're the same thing. It's just a storm. It hovers over the northwest Pacific Ocean. They call they're the same thing. It's just a storm. It hovers over the Northwest Pacific Ocean. They call it a typhoon. What was the name that they skipped because of something? Because it was like
Starting point is 02:03:51 the same name as somebody? The naming for the variants. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's right. It wasn't a hurricane. Because it sounded like branch chain amino acids. Huh? No, just kidding. It's like stuff bodybuilders take to get pumped. Huh? No. Just kidding. It's stuff bodybuilders take
Starting point is 02:04:06 to get pumped. BA2 variant. Sound like some shit you buy at the vitamin shop. What was it, though? What was the thing that they skipped? The same name as the...
Starting point is 02:04:19 Hurricane Omicron. China's president. Xi. Oh, that's right. Yep. That's right. That would be. Oh, that's right. Yep. That's right. That would be rude. But it's literally what the universe gave you.
Starting point is 02:04:31 Like, it's how it timed out. Right, right, right. If you followed the variants correctly. But we probably... What are they on now? I think I just heard thatiden said the pandemic's over yesterday yes that's right he said that it's over but they said no it's not he also said that we would defend taiwan world health organization skipped forward two greek letters avoiding the g variant
Starting point is 02:04:56 yeah probably a good move i mean they couldn't even call it the wuhan flu remember you can't name a variant after the fucking president. That's rude. Yeah. Not like the Spanish flu. Back then, there was no PC people being like, you gotta think about the Spanish.
Starting point is 02:05:14 How would they feel? Yeah, no one cared about that at all. And you can name shit after states, like the Chicago flu. People go, all right. I mean,
Starting point is 02:05:23 if it came from, yeah, if it came from Norway and we called it the Spanish flu that would be not nice we had the Illinois flu people in Ohio but I got the fucking Illinois flu from those fucking Chicago losers people would be upset like they would be mad at the state the state gave you the fucking Arizona flu. I got the Arizona flu from those assholes. Fuck that, man. You could get people convinced that flus come from specific regions,
Starting point is 02:05:53 and you could name something like the New Mexico flu, and people would be mad at New Mexicans. Guaranteed, right? How many people got mad at Chinese people and started punching them in the streets in New York? Right? Yeah. Didn't that happen a lot? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:03 Yeah. Yeah. you could easily get people mad a lot of those were race-related incidents though yes but the racism those chinese people experienced was greatly exacerbated by the the pandemic yeah it's sad because they're so small and fragile a lot of them i mean that was hans kim who said that but yeah i mean it's like they were defensive it was like random like a grandpa got shoved by i mean a lot of the videos were black dudes but i heard statistically it was like not that many black people doing it i don't know what to believe though what are you reading your news world star hip-hop? Wasn't that when Rick Moranis randomly got
Starting point is 02:06:46 Oh yeah he got cracked Rick Moranis got cracked Bill Burr had a great bit about that He did it on Saturday Night Live Did you see him do it? He goes New York is back baby When you saw Rick Moranis get punched There's some people that are happy that New York is dangerous again
Starting point is 02:07:03 Alright okay romantic There's some people that are happy that New York is dangerous again. Okay. All right. Okay, romantic. There's some people whose whole personality is New York. Yeah. They like Lou Reed music just because it makes them seem like a cool person. Yeah. You know, listen to the Stooges.
Starting point is 02:07:18 Yeah, it's me, man. Got my little cuffs in the bottom of my jeans, and I like New York. I live in fucking New York, man. I'm a fucking yorker man la is back they have syringes all over the streets now it's exciting yeah you were talking about going to your favorite italian restaurant that's hellacious now yeah total different experience my old neighborhoods literally there's like videos that come out where like you'll see like um you know uh like a woman a woman pushing a stroller with a shopping bag and you'll see like people sneak in behind her on her gate that she walked to like i know from the surveillance video that those are around my
Starting point is 02:08:03 neighborhood like i can tell it's within blocks of where i used to live and that's a woman with a stroller you know walking on a sunny los angeles day middle of the day and these people are coming up and just taking whatever they want because they're not going to get in jail so why not have a party it's so crazy that people think that that's the way to combat any injustices that have already existed should let people just run rampant commit crimes like that's not helping anybody you're turning people into criminals and you're also taking a person that maybe look i i've known a lot of criminals that turn out to be amazing people eventually in their lives joey diaz one of my greatest friends he He held a guy, he kidnapped a guy with
Starting point is 02:08:45 a fucking machine gun and a drug deal gone bad. Okay. He's one of my favorite people that's ever lived. I love him to death. So people go down the wrong way. And if they live in a place where that's acceptable and common and normal, and you can get away with it, they keep doing it. And that's just a fact. I don't think that prisons are set up well. I don't think they rehabilitate people. And I think a large percentage, I don't know what that number is. If it's one percent, it's too much, of people get arrested for crimes they didn't commit and spend long periods in jail for crimes they didn't commit. And that's a fact. And then the legal system, it's engineered to make it difficult for those people.
Starting point is 02:09:20 I mean, the way it's set up, the way when I've brought in Josh Dubin Dubin He's explained it and he's brought in people that have gone on to become lawyers like who learned law in prison Being unjustly accused and then got themselves out and then helped to get other people out. It's a fucked up system But having no system zero system is not good either like we can't over correct on this because this involves like health and safety and Just as importantly the future of those people because if they can just get away with that and keep doing that with no hope and that's The and then not gonna get arrested not get caught You're gonna have generation after generation of people that live like this and That's the real tragedy in this country when it comes to these cities that are fucked up and they've been fucked up for a long time
Starting point is 02:10:03 Is that nothing changes in terms of like been fucked up for a long time is that nothing changes in terms of like the overall approach as a like the the government itself like the Country itself to look at these spots where things are fucked up and say hey this shouldn't be that fucked up Like we should help that right like it was just us all of us in the world And we found out that Hans Kim was in a tent underneath the bridge. We're like, Hans, why are you in a fucking tent under the bridge? What's going on, man? Like, oh, shit went bad, and my girlfriend kicked me out, and I didn't know what to do. Come live with us.
Starting point is 02:10:34 We got a spare bedroom. That's how it's supposed to be in the world, right? But when it gets too many people, you can't do that anymore. And then you have fucked up spots that just stay fucked up, because it's not my fault. I don't live in the south side of Chicago. I don't live in Baltimore. You just do, do, do, do, do. And you drive to your nice house in the suburbs and you feel great about yourself.
Starting point is 02:10:51 But if the world doesn't look at those spots and go, this is the number one problem. Like this creates more crime and more violence and less hope and more resentment. If they could just fix that. Somebody told me the other day that in L.A LA they put a porta potty at an intersection. Yeah. Just like- Mo was telling us the other day. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:10 That's right. That's what it was. Yeah. It was like a bandaid solution. It's not even a bandaid. I guess it's a solution to stop human shit like is all over the place in San Francisco. But if you're going to sleep on the ground outside, you might... If you don't want to wait for a porta potty, you're just going to shit in the gutter.
Starting point is 02:11:22 Right. These people, they've lost hope and they're literally covered in dirt and sleeping outside begging for money for whatever they need it for, whether it's drugs or food. I mean, it's so hard to address because it's like you have to admit there's a problem and then do something about it. But it's like a lot of money to commit. But if you it's it's like a lot of money to commit and then if you don't commit that level But you want to do something and it's like you put porta potties out which aren't really gonna solve anything It's like a weird mental block. There's also a lack of There's no incentive to solve it Like these people make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year dealing with the homeless crisis, which is kind of wild
Starting point is 02:12:04 There's a whole list of people that make like $200,000 a year working on the homeless thing in LA. Yeah. And it never gets better. And if they saw that they're out of a job. Imagine if you were getting 200 grand for something that you didn't fix at all and you just kept getting that money. Like, why would you fix it?
Starting point is 02:12:21 If I fix it, I don't get the money. Right. Like, if you have a job that pays you a quarter million dollars a year and you just show up eight hours a day and go he's homeless i mean let's definitely sweep up let's definitely get those needles and put them in a box and i mean it's very clearly a mental health problem you know what i mean because there's so many ways to make money now i wonder if there's a drug addiction problem too. It's also a despair problem. It's a trauma problem. It's a sexual abuse with their children problem.
Starting point is 02:12:50 There's a lot of issues that relate to people being homeless. It's not a simple cut and dry mental illness problem. It's a lot of shit going on at the same time. And there's a lot of people that get hooked on drugs. And once the opiate epidemic in this country really kicked into play, that's when you see a radical increase in the lot of people that get hooked on drugs and once the opiate epidemic in this country really kicked into play
Starting point is 02:13:06 That's when you see a radical increase in the number of people like living in tents and just just giving up They're so fucked up. There's so many people fucked up in this country right now. Yeah There used to be asylums. Yeah, right. Yeah, that was during the 80s though during the Reagan administration Why are we paying for this when we could pay for golf? And they just let all the crazy people out on the street. Yeah. The problem with asylums is sometimes, you know, I don't like what you're saying on Facebook, Tony. I think you might be crazy.
Starting point is 02:13:40 Oh, right. I have to commit you to an asylum. All they have to do is slip something in your drink and get you to talk in front of a bunch of people. And then people would say, well, we saw Tony and he was ranting and raving and it was really sad. It didn't make any sense. I remember the old Tony from the Kill Tony days. Right. He's always so sharp.
Starting point is 02:13:55 He's like shitting his pants and screaming at people. And then the next thing you know, you're in an asylum. You know? That makes sense. If you, you know, yeah. julian assange you right yeah yeah we're gonna just stick you in a cell somewhere conveniently shut you up because you're a crazy person tony then they force you to take their medicine which you know quiets you down even more or fixes you yeah what if it fixes you you're like thank you thank you government i now understand
Starting point is 02:14:28 that the message is very important that we get out there to the people and that we stay compliant together united it's the only way to fight china that's someone was saying that about a digital currency it's the only way we can compete with China is if you let the United States government control all the digital currency. Yeah. What? Let's figure that out before voting. That's great. You guys ran out of steam, didn't you?
Starting point is 02:15:01 Tony, you're good for about an hour and a half. Yeah. One of these things. Yeah, I need an audience if there was people around us right now I'd be fucking fucking shit but there are
Starting point is 02:15:09 there are people listening you just have to pretend that they're listening I can't do it that's why that's why Kill Tony's live I need like I need to hear the sound
Starting point is 02:15:17 oh you need to hear it yeah Hans Kim you write a lot dude thank you I see your little spreadsheets and all your shit.
Starting point is 02:15:25 What is your writing process? What do you do? I try to write 2,000 words every day on my computer. I have a little Bluetooth keyboard that connects to my phone, so I can just type anywhere. I try to write 2,000 words every day. And then I've really been focusing more on whenever I think I have anything close to my idea, I've been really focusing on pulling my phone out and writing it down.
Starting point is 02:15:46 It's very important, right? Yeah, because it's so easy to be like that Mitch Hedberg joke and convince myself it wasn't funny. Yeah. Yeah, Neil Brennan had a great line about that. He said that he looks at his notebook as like a net that he catches ideas in. Totally. It's a great way to look at it.
Starting point is 02:16:02 As I've progressed in 15 years but it's totally switched from one to the other at first you know i started off at a picnic table out at a park looking around thinking what will people think is funny you know what i mean oh there's a person walking a dog maybe this maybe something about a leash or uh how they go to the bathroom okay because that's a thing people recognize if i'm seeing that that's what they will think and now it's slowly you know flipped from writing with a pen and paper what will they think is to literally 90 of my material now is stuff that i'm talking with someone about and i say something and they laugh and I go,
Starting point is 02:16:46 oh shit, that's one. Dude, at least four of your most killer bits came up with me howling laughing while we were driving somewhere. That one that we know about, oh my God. We were on our way to Fresno. We're in my Lexus SUV and Tony and I were just howling laughing. Just making each other laugh. It was so fun.
Starting point is 02:17:05 Those road trips are so fun, man. Yeah. Like this week, come on, man, everywhere. On the plane, in the hotel, at dinner, just constant crack-ups. Yeah. That was like an all-day podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:21 Someone asked me how this weekend was out there, and I was like, it's like if The Hangover was funnier Stuff just kept happening Dude One after the other Sitting next to Dave Chappelle, he goes, I'm Dave Chappelle, I'm not going anywhere And you see the guy was like, oh yeah And he just walked away
Starting point is 02:17:42 Who the fuck am I? He was like, what did I just do? Right. What did I just do? Whoops. Getting paid minimum wage, tell Dave Chappelle. I'm sure he's not getting paid. He's a union guy.
Starting point is 02:17:54 I'm sure he's getting paid well. He's at a beautiful arena. Shut the fuck up, Hanskin. I'm sorry. Jesus Christ, you're ruining everything. Yo, he just fucked up. But being there, that ringside spot is very valuable if you could pay for those ringside seats the experience is so intense well that's how it is going to the ufc to let you know like the perspective that's that's what it's like for us i'm so
Starting point is 02:18:19 spoiled you're like a part of the thing so you you might not see it, but we are having the time of our lives right behind you. We did yesterday when we went to see the Apex fight. The Apex fights are magic. Seeing fights at the Apex Center is incredible. Yeah. It's so amazing. And to see that fight between Njikwani and Rodriguez, that was an incredible fight, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:42 Well, it was also a crazy thing i noticed about the apex is that normally you need headphones to hear what the commentators are saying right it's like a part of it and i kept putting mine on and i'm like i think i could just and i ended up taking them off because they're right there you can actually hear them even in the at the pay-per-views and everything you can't hear anything you guys are facing the octagon there's an arena of people 360 degrees yeah that's awesome too yeah i was trying to we were talking phil and i were talking about it yesterday i was like i don't think there's a there's not a better they're both awesome like i saw francis and gonna win the heavyweight title at the apex silence dude
Starting point is 02:19:22 and that was the heat of the pandemic it was like there was no crowds like there are now like now there's like a hundred and so people how many people you think were there 200 yeah maybe 200 people yeah it was a pretty good crowd it's definitely gotten bigger because i remember one of the first ones they ever did with a small crowd i was like this is crazy we have a crowd again and then florida's like come on on over here. It's like mid-pandemic. Florida had full arenas full of people. I mean, that's how I got COVID. We did arenas in Florida.
Starting point is 02:19:53 Yep. Yeah. And then we drank until five in the morning. It was like, not the best for the immune system. Right. I mean, an arena's pretty airy compared to other things. Not really. What it is is like a
Starting point is 02:20:06 fucking a giant spray of covid gas like you're on stage and people are going like this at you and then you walk through the crowd you're high-fiving people and they love it they own it i just spent a whole weekend in west palm beach doing five shows and i the best time and a part of it is uh their ownership of it because they know because i'm talking about how i just moved to texas they get it and i'm like you know they're they're very aware that they they handled it correctly you know what i mean which is so which is crazy interesting but the wildest people in the country. Take it from comedians do get out almost every weekend.
Starting point is 02:20:51 Working ones are out there. So you're seeing how different each city is. The second you get off the plane, it kind of starts, right? You're seeing a ton of masks or this or that or people being with plastic shields, which you almost never see in the places that at least I go. Anyway, my point is in Florida, they are right now happier. It's very clear. It's a different type of thing where there was no chill. Does this make sense?
Starting point is 02:21:26 Like they never stopped enjoying themselves. I can see it very clearly on a scale when I'm in Florida and just barely underneath, if not equal, is Texas. And then there's a little bit of a drop off. Arizona's pretty crazy still. You know what I mean? Like there's some people that didn't miss a beat and you can feel it in the DNA of the city it spreads through the audiences I think very clearly well when people are not scared
Starting point is 02:21:52 that is contagious and when people are scared that's contagious yes exactly yeah both those things are kind of tricky you know because people not being scared at all if something's actually dangerous. You know, that can get weird too. And it shows, though. There's something interesting. They laugh longer than other cities. They're having more fun. Yeah. And they're happy with their choices.
Starting point is 02:22:15 They're happy with where they are. It's one of the things that comes from when you're living in a place and the place is not doing well is you start to feel like you're connected to a place that sucks. Yeah. You know? If you live in a really place that sucks. Yeah. You know? If you like live in a really fucking shitty town. Right.
Starting point is 02:22:29 It's like, and you'll notice that the places that have a lot of pride end up being more fun audiences. Perfect example, Columbus, Ohio this past weekend.
Starting point is 02:22:36 Yeah. You know, Ohioans know that you're in Ohio. You're like, you know, it's a part of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:43 It's a different thing. I started off my set by literally saying fuck michigan and chapelle who wasn't even there yet when i did that started his off with oh h and the whole arena said io just a weird ohio thing well we had great times in fucking iowa you remember how fun iowa was yeah same kind of thing. Yeah. You would never imagine that some of the places that people were like, oh, I got to go to Ohio. Those people are probably just going to be farming all day and they're tired. No, those people there have a good fucking time. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:17 Cities have vibes. Yeah. Unless people don't travel enough to find that out. Right. I think that when you get too many people compacted into cities like New York and San Francisco and L.A., you just can't avoid a certain level of paranoid anxiety and hysteria. And then when something comes along like the pandemic, it just, it's too much. They're barely hanging in with regular 2018 life, which is pretty easy, relatively speaking, in terms of human history. 2018 life, pretty easy.
Starting point is 02:23:48 And they're like, this is too crazy. And then 2022 is just like, what about the new variants? I was on this guy's Twitter bio, and his Twitter bio was like, vaxxed, check. Boosted, check. Second booster, check. Bivalent booster check and they're most recent still wear a mask to keep others safe yeah do you need a fucking hug and the most recent tweet of theirs is got covid again yeah right do you need a fucking hug like why are you proclaiming that
Starting point is 02:24:21 my body is approved of by society. It's not just that. It's just like this weird thing that they're doing. They're like going along with an assumption that didn't prove to be accurate. The assumption was far more deadly and terrifying. And now it's not. Now let's look at what is actually still deadly, though. And how come you're not paying attention to that right? How much so many fucking people are obese if you're really worried about losing people?
Starting point is 02:24:48 Why aren't you freaking out about all these people that are obese because it's gonna kill them in ten years and not one Like what is it? It's not oh They'll get another eight years out or they can get 50 years out if you just tell them to be fucking healthy It's a disease obesity is a disease. Yeah Like well, how about freak out about that one? How about freak out about cancer? if you just tell them to be fucking healthy. It's a disease. Obesity is a disease. How about freak out about that one? How about freak out about cancer? How about freak out about fucking heart disease?
Starting point is 02:25:12 How about that? How about freak out about that? I noticed that McDonald's, maybe it was just me noticing this, but I noticed that I saw less McDonald's commercials during the pandemic because they were like, ooh, maybe- We're doing good.
Starting point is 02:25:24 Maybe we should just shut the fuck up. Shut up,, maybe we're doing good. Maybe we should shut up, shut up, shut up, play it cool. We should shut the fuck up. Just stay open and serve the food. Yeah. But he noticed us.
Starting point is 02:25:33 Yeah. We're doing good. But you know, everybody's sad. This is happening. We didn't want it this way. Some businesses did great during the pandemic. Dude,
Starting point is 02:25:42 if they gave a fuck about your health, they'd close down all those places. They'd close down every Taco Bell. That's it. You have to eat real food, you fucks. Yeah. Yeah. Or they could do that.
Starting point is 02:25:53 Yeah. I don't think they should. I think they should 100% let people buy Jack in the Box. If you want a Jack in the Box burger and it's available. The problem is people eat it every day because we're children. We're big old grown babies. And if you give us the option and some people say, well, they can't afford it and they can't this and they can't that. In many cases, you're correct.
Starting point is 02:26:12 But in a lot of cases, you're not. In a lot of cases, the people have plenty of money. They don't give a fuck. They want to pull into Burger King and get a motherfucking Whopper. A lot of food is cultural, like Italian food. And since a lot of people moved to America, our culture is just fast food.
Starting point is 02:26:28 And we've got to change our culture to be a little more intelligent. Yeah, let's make sweet potatoes cool again. When I would come home from the comedy store, and when you had a great time,
Starting point is 02:26:39 you had a great set, you're hanging out with your friends, and you're coming home and you're kind of tired, I would go right for a burger. Right for In-N-Out. Fuck it. It's In-'re coming home. You're kind of tired. I Would go right for a burger right for in and out. Fuck it. It's in and out. They're cooking it fresh It's right there or I get it with the lettuce so I wouldn't feel guilty But if you but that's a good option actually if you can get in with the lettuce wrap a lettuce wrap burger not bad
Starting point is 02:27:00 As far as like a late-night health choice not bad at all Not bad. As far as like a late night health choice, not bad at all. Yeah. But if you're going to get one of them fucking triple decker cheeseburgers with the bun, the special sauces and a 32 ounce Coca-Cola and fries boiled in seed oils and covered in ketchup that's filled with sugar. Oh my God. If you do that five, six days a week, you're eating poison.
Starting point is 02:27:25 And you're addicted. You know, there's so much addictive quality to that white bread. Oh, my God. And to carbonated beverages. You know, that in itself, even if it's just club soda, your blood gets excited by the air that's in it. Oh, yeah. That's what happens? It in itself is addictive is that like
Starting point is 02:27:46 extra carbonated but what if you get like sparkling water like perrier is that what like does that have that it all it literally travels through your blood faster or whatever it is yeah because the it's in the liquid and our and we um process it through our blood. What we drink goes through, we think it goes through like tubes, you know what I mean? Nope. Are you a doctor?
Starting point is 02:28:13 Like a stomach, because you think about the stomach and how does it get to the bladder, but it goes to the stomach. If this was my doctor, I'd be like, oh my God, I gotta get out of here. If I was in the doctor's office,
Starting point is 02:28:23 well, you know, man, sparkling water gets in your blood even faster. You know how we have, like, tubes? Oh, my God. I got to get the fuck out of here. I got to get the fuck out of here. I guess everything is a tube. Yeah, I got to get out of here. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:43 Sparkling water. Is it really different for you? I mean mouth. Is it different for you? Sparkling water gets into your blood quicker. People get addicted to carbonation. I think it's mouth feel. I think we get addicted to it.
Starting point is 02:28:58 It tastes good. I've read a thing one time. With a little lime juice in there? It's a delicious beverage. A little Perrier with lime. So nice. So nice. So nice. I never really liked that.
Starting point is 02:29:06 I had a quarter pounder about six months ago. I never eat those things. I was driving somewhere. I was kind of late. And I said, let me just grab a burger real quick at Burger King. I got a quarter pounder. And I couldn't believe how sweet it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:20 It's weird. It's like the bread tastes like a pastry almost. It doesn't taste like regular bread. Yeah. Like I weird. It's like the bread tastes like a pastry almost. It doesn't taste like regular bread. Yeah. Like I could taste sugar. I was like, this is delicious. This is really yummy.
Starting point is 02:29:32 This is very yummy. Like knowing that I don't do it all the time so I can enjoy it. Yeah. Because I think of that, of the burgers, like that's probably the most processed, right? The McDonald's ones are the ones they put on a shelf and they just sit and look exactly the same for a year, right? Yeah. What are they putting in those things? Aspartame.
Starting point is 02:29:53 But that's just a sweetener, right? Yeah. It's like plastic. Just high fructose corn syrup. Tons of it. What about what is preserving the bun to allow it to sit on the shelf like that and never accumulate fungus? What is preserving the bun to allow it to sit on a shelf like that and never accumulate fungus? Is it just a really dry environment like a mummy's tomb that they're finding these burgers at?
Starting point is 02:30:11 Or is it like a regular shelf? Like if you added a regular shelf in Miami where it's a moist climate and you put your burger on the shelf, would it still stay looking like that or would it become fungus city? Well, maybe humans can take a little more plastic than the normal animal. Even mushrooms. Like, get the fuck out of here, bitch. Birds can't eat spicy food. That's why food is spicy.
Starting point is 02:30:32 Really? Yeah, birds don't eat it because they want to be eaten by humans because that's like their seeds or whatever. That's something. Or the opposite of that. Is that really why birds don't, like, so humans eat spicy food so birds don't eat it yeah like this plant has a natural defense so that it can be spread by humans really yeah so what what attracted people initially to spicy foods because i would imagine if you tried like a jalapeno for the first time or even worse like who the fuck ever decided to eat ghost peppers. I bet you're starving. Yeah, but if you were starving and you ate
Starting point is 02:31:06 a ghost pepper, you would 100% be convinced you're poisoned. Because back in the day, before people could talk, they must have just experimented with food to figure out what you can eat and what's going to kill you. Imagine eating a fucking ghost pepper and going, let's figure that one out later.
Starting point is 02:31:21 That one has some culinary potential. We're going to add it to stuff one day. Just don't eat a bowl of ghost peppers. What if it's like the frogs that are crazy poisonous because the snake and the frog just kept upping their game? Right. So we sort of bred these crazy peppers. Is that what we did? I have no idea.
Starting point is 02:31:42 There's a theory on this in this article that is saying that, but it's not disproving it. Interesting. Capsaicin is for the birds. The truth is scientists, human scientists, that is, don't know why people acquire a taste for torturous cuisine. They're not even sure why peppers began to sport capsaicin, the molecule compound that triggers your tongue's pain sensors in the first place. Some evidence suggests that pepper plants use capsaicin as a mammalian repellent. This may seem odd, as most plants try to entice animals to spread their seeds with sweet flesh and enticing colors, not to detract them with promises of a seared tongue.
Starting point is 02:32:22 But mammal-strong stomach acids break down pepper seeds, reducing the plant's fecundity. Birds' digestive tracts, on the other hand, allow the seeds to pass through unharmed and be dispersed widely. Not coincidentally, birds aren't sensitive to capsaicin. Their taste receptors don't register its pungency. Wow. So that's the opposite. That's I was there what I said. Yeah
Starting point is 02:32:47 That's okay close. That's how it works There's also evidence of capsaicin is a natural antifungal Studies have shown that pepper plants and fungal rich environments produce more of the compound than those from drier environments Oh that makes sense, right? Because you think like Mexico you always think of hot hot peppers And you put spices on food to keep it from rotting. Is that what they do? Or are you just making that up too? Well, the spice trade.
Starting point is 02:33:15 The spice trade, that was all about salt. They used to go to war for salt. Yeah. It was like their oil. How nuts is that? They went to war for salt. That's wild because, I mean, there's so much of it in the ocean, right? Yeah, but they didn't know how to get it out.
Starting point is 02:33:28 We still don't. Well, we have desalination plants, but we don't have enough. Yeah. Like that, they would fix all of California's problems. There was like an old bit I had about Mars, you know, that we're Californians running out of water. I'm like, we're right next to the ocean. The fuck are you talking about? There's a lot of water. There's so much we're right next to the ocean. The fuck are you talking about? There's a lot of water.
Starting point is 02:33:46 There's so much water, it takes six hours to fly over it in a plane. There's plenty of water. Like, we could fix everything. Just get the salt out of the water. Yeah. But nobody talks about that. That should be our number one. Like, Eddie Bravo was screaming about it.
Starting point is 02:34:04 What about the fucking salt in the water? They can take the salt out of the water. He's right. He's right. Maybe it's not that easy. It's definitely not easy. I think what they need is nuclear power connected to desalination plants. Just chugging.
Starting point is 02:34:19 Just churning. Yeah. Because if you have nuclear power, the good nuclear power supposedly, the new design, I would say this with all confidence, having not read anything about them, but supposedly they're way better. If you can get them to just suck the salt out. Yeah. The post-Fukushima plants. Those people are fucked. That's what you don't want.
Starting point is 02:34:45 They ruin everything. Because it's like there's so many nuclear power plants, but there's only a few of them that have failed horrifically and ruined the environment forever and ever. That's what we're worried about. HBO has put out, I was telling you about that TV show Chernobyl, but also they just put out recently, it's either them or Netflix, but an amazing documentary about chernobyl and they say that uh russia still claims i can't remember the exact number but it's like 30 people dead
Starting point is 02:35:12 ever ever of all time from chernobyl which is adorable crazy i just looked up the fukushima it says there's one dispute of death from it yeah the fukushima thing say, didn't kill a lot of people, but absolutely ruined that place. Like, if there's more people that have died, it's not a ton, but that spot is done forever. Like, that spot is done for hundreds of thousands of years. 31 in the explosion at Chernobyl. I mean, the place is a ghost land. Right, but that doesn't necessarily mean that that many more people died. But when it comes from, like, communist Russia, you're going, oh, suspicious.
Starting point is 02:35:51 How many died? 31. Nothing bad at all. Keep going, comrade. Thousands and thousands and thousands of people that were upstream from that, though, got cancer. Have you ever seen the video that shows the very first detonation of a nuclear bomb and then all the subsequent nuclear bombs over time? It's wild. I never knew how many bombs they blew up. I thought it was just like Fat Man and Little Boy and, you know, the Trinity explosion and a couple others.
Starting point is 02:36:21 Yeah. A couple tests in the Nevada desert. Uh-uh. Bro, watch this. This is wild. I'm not going that fast. This is A couple tests in the Nevada desert. Uh-uh. Bro, watch this. This is wild. This is not going that fast. This is every, every, that's okay. It doesn't go fast at all for a second.
Starting point is 02:36:31 And then once it kicks up. It was a 15-minute video. That was all. Yeah, but just get it forward a little bit to like 19, okay, here you go. Get it to like 1947. I don't judge World War II. Get it to 47. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:43 That's where it starts. So 45 is when they did the first ones, right? Yeah. 48, 49. So now they're testing them in Nevada, see? China started testing them. China's testing them. Who else is testing them down there in the corner?
Starting point is 02:36:59 Australia. Okay. So here we are at 55. Now they're popping off on a regular. Look at all the ones in Nevada. Look at Nevada. Oh, my God. Look at it. Oh, my God. are at 55. Now they're popping off on a regular. Look at all the ones in Nevada. Look at Nevada. Oh, my God. Look at it.
Starting point is 02:37:07 Oh, my God. Look at Russia. Russia's going off. China's going off. Oh, I guess that is Russia. I'm sorry. I couldn't tell the picture. Well, they're connected.
Starting point is 02:37:15 Look at all the ones in Russia. Oh, my God. Look at all the ones in Nevada. Nevada just keeps getting hit. Look at Nevada. It's so wild. They got one spot. They just keep nuking the fuck out of hit. Look at Nevada. It's so wild. They got one spot. They just keep nuking the fuck out of it.
Starting point is 02:37:28 Look at us. We have 438. We have 487 by 67. 1967, 400, look at this, 580, 601 by 69. 601 nuclear explosions by 1969.
Starting point is 02:37:43 So they're blowing off hundreds and hundreds of them Russia's doing it all over the place. We're just doing it one place. It only in Nevada We're doing it down here too, but it's covered up by this That's right, yeah, they nuked one of the islands out there. Look at this by 77 it's 900 900 nuclear explosion Italy's doing it, Bro, look at this. By 77, it's 900. 900 nuclear explosions. They keep doing it. Look at them.
Starting point is 02:38:08 Look at them go. Look at them go in Nevada. That's probably really bad for you, isn't it? And we stopped? No, it's perfect for you. Is that when we stopped? That's how you make superheroes. 1992?
Starting point is 02:38:17 There's a little map of the way the radiation blew out of Chernobyl, and there's a map of people on Pornhub who search squid porn, and it's like a direct link in Sweden or Finland of the radiation and people who are into squid porn. Whoa.
Starting point is 02:38:36 Did you find this out from being into squid porn? I found it from being on Squid Games. There's so many times that people have poisoned the people around them whether it's uh by negligence or by you know criminal enterprises doing shit like that but the weirdest one was the lead poisoning one oh and the gas yeah yeah sweden's porn preferences versus radiation received from chern. Look at that, man. Hentai.
Starting point is 02:39:10 Yeah, they're into mature at the top. Hentai, where they got fucked up the most. And then hentai, where they got fucked up the most. In that corner, too. They're connected. Whoa. Look at that. Anal is the ones that are the furthest away.
Starting point is 02:39:25 It gets back to normal around that area. They're the ones that take the furthest away. It gets back to normal. They're the ones that take the most risks. We haven't even seen any disasters. So you think that's why Japanese people are so into hentai? Because of the nuclear bombs? Or they created hentai because of... That's the cartoon porn, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:44 Like spoke to them. or anime in general it is odd that this one very attractive style of animation comes from one part of the world and when people been animating things for so long maybe that's the superpower well Japan has a pretty fucking amazing history. Think about Japan. Karate came from there. Jiu-jitsu came from there. Some of the best cars ever came from there. Samurais came from there.
Starting point is 02:40:17 Yeah. Miyamoto Musashi from the Book of Five Rings. I mean, it just, what a wild culture. It's just a small island. Not that big at all. Yeah. They fought off the Mongols. You know, they were the only country that fought off the Mongols.
Starting point is 02:40:31 Usually when the Mongols arrived, that was a wrap. The Samurais fought off the Mongols. The Mongols were like, let's get the fuck out of here. These crazy dudes with swords and bows and arrows, they're too fucking fierce. dude with swords and bows and arrows they're too fucking fierce because they were like trained warriors in a of like a very specific style of combat where you would fight hand to hand with swords these are i mean incredibly ferocious people back then yeah there's some of these wild accounts on one of these uh youtube videos so you can find it mongols versus the samurais forget the name of the youtube channel but there's a there's a few really cool youtube channels that
Starting point is 02:41:10 just focus on like these um historical tales that are narrated in a really cool way and then they use cool artwork to show you like what's representative of what what it probably looked like back then i think you shouted them out before. Yeah, I know I did. I know I did. It's on my Instagram somewhere. This is Kings and Generals. Pretty popular YouTube channel.
Starting point is 02:41:33 Samurai of Savate. Yeah, could be. I don't think it was this one. I don't think this was, but this looks a lot like the type of stuff, and then it's interrupted by a commercial. Yeah. Either way. like the type of stuff and then it's interrupted by a commercial yeah japan either way like an island and they had like a lot of tribes and they were all fighting each other all the time just getting better and better well that was during musashi's time he was a ronin right so he's a
Starting point is 02:41:58 samurai without a master and he would just wander around fucking people up and writing about strategy, writing about getting your shit together. You can't do that anymore. We lost that. We lost that for now. But if an asteroid hits and we start back from square one, it goes right back to that. Then LeBron James has a battle axe, you know? And fucked up feet.
Starting point is 02:42:23 Yeah. All gladiators, I'm sure. Those metal shoes. The same article that had the train stuff earlier, I was trying to get this back in, had at the bottom, because it was medical myths, I'm going to try to pull it back up, but it was about gladiators.
Starting point is 02:42:36 They used to put their sweat in vials that people would use as cream on their face. Whoa. And then the next thing said that their blood was used to treat people with epilepsy. They would drink their face. Whoa. And then the next thing said that their blood was used to treat people with epilepsy. They would drink their blood. Wow. I bet you could sell blood from sweaty people right now.
Starting point is 02:42:53 If you had an OnlyFans. Yeah. You know, something along those lines. People buy things like that. Yeah. Just because it happened 2000 years ago doesn't mean it wouldn't happen tomorrow. Ancient Romans bought vials of gladiator sweat
Starting point is 02:43:07 out of all the things that existed in human history would this be one of the major ones you would want to see gladiator fights yeah
Starting point is 02:43:19 the coliseum I don't think any other culture did it quite like that how much of it is exaggerated like how much how much of it was really like did it quite like that. How much of it is exaggerated? How much of it was really like fighting a lion to the death? How much of it was like... Because I think you would run out of people to get to fight for you.
Starting point is 02:43:34 How much of it was like pro wrestling? Do you think there was any pro wrestling style works involved in gladiator fights? Were some of them bullshit? Oh, yeah. Had to be yeah you'd want to survive you could be like hey one of us is going to die or we can go splitsies here and yeah you make a deal this is your buddy you whack them on the top of the head and put on a great show i mean imagine and then you set up for the rematch. This whole thing was probably happening way back then. Imagine realizing you were double-crossed right when you're seeing the sword coming towards your neck. And you're like, oh, my God, we made it.
Starting point is 02:44:15 Look over, you see the rest of your body. For the couple seconds, you're still alive. They rarely fought against animals. They only rarely fought against animals. That's like, you know, I only murdered a couple people. They rarely fought against animals. What the fuck
Starting point is 02:44:33 they fought against animals? 9,000 animals were slain during a 100-day ceremony. Oh, Jesus Christ. To mark the opening of the Colosseum. 9,000 animals. Another 11,000 were later killed as part of a 123-day festival held by Emperor Trajan in the 2nd century AD. While most animals were merely slaughtered for sport, others were trained to do tricks or even pitted against one another in fights. Wild animals also served as a popular form of execution. Convicted criminals and Christians were often thrown to ravenous dogs, lions, and bears as a part of the day's entertainment.
Starting point is 02:45:13 Holy shit. That's even more intense. Wow. That's more intense than people fighting against lions and wolves. They fed people to them? Nope. To dogs? They fed people to dogs?
Starting point is 02:45:24 I bet that does a great job at stopping crime, too. You don't want to be that person, right? I guess. That's probably the opposite of what California is doing right now. Yeah, but you could also decide someone's guilty when they're innocent and throw them right to the lions. What do you got there, Jamie? It says that some of the emperors participated in some stage battles.
Starting point is 02:45:45 Oh, the emperors were doing the pro wrestling. Hosting gladiator games was an easy way for Roman emperors to win the love of the people, but few took it a step further and actually participated in combat. Several rulers performed in the arena, including Caligula, Titus, and how do you say that? Hadrian? Hadrian. Hadrian, though most likely under highly controlled conditions or with dull blades. A Deadeye with a spear, the deranged Emperor Commodus often tried to wow the crowds by killing bears and panthers from the safety of a raised platform. of a raised platform.
Starting point is 02:46:24 He also competed in a few gladiator fights, though usually against inexperienced fighters or even terrified and poorly armed members of the audience. When he inevitably won the contests, Commodus made sure to reward himself with a massive sum of one million Roman sestres. Sestres? How do you say that? You got it.
Starting point is 02:46:43 Sester? Sester? Sester. Sester. Sester. Sester. Sester. Sester. Sester. Sester. Sester. Sester. Sester. Sester. Sester. Sester. Sester. sesterces sesterces wow so commodus was uh joaquin phoenix and gladiator right yeah he played it so good he's so good at playing a cunt he's so good he must be a great guy he looks evil well in the joker and in gladiator he was so good at playing a piece of shit yeah he's like so good at playing a really fucking twisted person. He's got permanent mascara on, it looks like. His eyes look really dark.
Starting point is 02:47:11 What are you trying to say? He's a beautiful man. You know what I really liked him in? Is her. Did you ever see her? I didn't. So weird. It's a guy who comes in love with like Siri.
Starting point is 02:47:23 Yeah. So strange. Scarlettohansson yeah he has no relationship so he has a relationship with this fucking voice and a computer starts talking to him and he falls in love with it wow i feel like that movie proved that i could fall in love with the robot because at the end of the movie i was like i love the robot now and like if they can make your life better and they say all the right things, why wouldn't you be in a relationship? Why would you be single and be a worse person?
Starting point is 02:47:51 Or you could have this AI just telling you the right things and clicking that part of your brain. Let me ask you this. Do you think you could get away with being and behaving however you like in front of the robot because it's your robot? I think no, because eventually that would be bad for you and the relationship
Starting point is 02:48:08 and she'd have to correct you. You're correct. So how does that... Who decides what the robot corrects and doesn't correct? And wouldn't that be a wonderful way to control people? If you have female robots that fuck the shit out of them, but that put them in a very very controlled path.
Starting point is 02:48:26 They don't go protest tonight. Very controlled path. Yeah. Tell you what you can do and what you can't do. Well, if it wasn't hacked, I think it'd be nice. No. It's going to be run by an AI, an algorithm. It's going to control people.
Starting point is 02:48:41 That's going to be the best way to control people, have their spouses control them. And then their spouses can kill them too. Cause your spouse is like iRobot. Like she's hot as fuck and she can also kill you. So it's gonna be a resource that people fight over? She doesn't even try to hide that she can kill you. Like sometimes she gets on top, she grabs the back of your neck, fucking rides you down
Starting point is 02:49:01 the dick, looks you in the eye and you're like, and you realize your robot can kill you did you see Ex Machina? if there's not a movie that makes you think you can fall in love with a robot I mean that's the movie that woman, who's the woman? Natalie Porter, is that who it is?
Starting point is 02:49:19 no, who's the woman who plays the robot? she's so pretty She's so pretty. She's so pretty, and even when you could see all of her components. That's Alicia Vikander. Look at those wires. Alicia what? Vikander.
Starting point is 02:49:34 Alicia Vikander. That's the woman. She's incredible at it. So good. That movie's so fucking good, dude. She's actually hotter as a robot. That movie's so fucking good dude. She's actually hotter as a robot. Well she's very hot as a robot but that poor guy that gets roped in with it.
Starting point is 02:49:51 There she is as a robot. Damn. She looks great. Just the least amount of face to be fuckable. They found the perfect. Yeah. Exactly. Like you could just as long as you have the skin up to the forehead the rest of the head
Starting point is 02:50:03 could be all mesh and we'll still fuck you. Yeah, totally. Like if she looked like that, the boobs are odd though. The mesh boobs, you're like, hey, what is that? Is that what's under the skin? Like what are you wearing a shirt? What's happening here? I'm confused.
Starting point is 02:50:21 She looks like a knight. I'm confused because if you put skin over that, it wouldn't look like boobs. It looks like you were wearing a shirt and then skin over the shirt. You know? Because those don't look like boobs. Right? It's a little too thick. It's odd.
Starting point is 02:50:35 It looks like a sweater over boobs. Right? I wonder how firm they are. You think they made those soft? I think those are real boobs. I think that's bullshit, right? So I think what they would be like, if she was a robot, that would be the tissue part, so that would be the smooshy part.
Starting point is 02:50:53 But, like, how deep do you go before you feel a wire? You have to cover it with something. Or you're sucking on a nipple and you get electrocuted. Didn't he have a room like this where there was more body parts on the wall or something? Yeah, a bunch of different stuff. Remember the lady comes in and starts... Didn't the Japanese lady undo her skin and change her skin or something like that?
Starting point is 02:51:16 Yeah. Yeah, that kind of a thing, if there was a thing like that that looked that good and then they just put the artificial skin on it so the whole body was covered in that, kind of a thing, if there was a thing like that that looked that good, and then they just put the artificial skin on it so the whole body was covered in that, it would 100% get you to believe. Yeah, there's nothing we can do. We're trapped by our dicks.
Starting point is 02:51:36 Well, we're so more susceptible to that kind of influence than females are. Well, girls are more influenced by the her type of influence. The robot saying the right things. You think? Yeah, they can get us from every angle. Yeah, but they don't want a robot
Starting point is 02:51:52 telling them the right thing. They only want a person. Women are not interested in fuck robots. We're the only ones having that discussion. We're way more interested in that. Until the robots can figure out a way to make vast sums of money on their own. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:52:06 And all of a sudden. You could trick us with fake tits. You can't even trick a woman. There's nothing that you have that works as an obvious trick. Like, fake boobs are an obvious trick. Like, you don't really have large breasts, but what you have done is gone to a doctor, and they perform surgery where they put this gelatinous foreign material that makes your breasts more enhanced. They look better.
Starting point is 02:52:29 And we all know it. Yeah. And no one cares. There's not a thing a guy can do that's like that. There's not one thing a guy can do where it's fake. What about lying or using your words to deceive and seduce a woman? Do you work for the government? Who the fuck is Hans. Where's hot?
Starting point is 02:52:48 What have you done to Hans Kim? I'm sorry fed him Lying is words and sure but that It's like there's levels of fucked up levels of fucked up. What's interesting is women do have the male fuck robot, but it's just the dick. It's a vibrator. Yeah, but it's not. They don't want it coming over and talking to them, telling them, you're so pretty, baby.
Starting point is 02:53:14 We're way more fucked up than them. We have to just accept that. We're way more fucked up than them. They're not in the fuck robot market at all. If you said, Dad, I'm going to need to borrow $40 million. I got a fucking plan. Fuck robots for women.
Starting point is 02:53:29 That would be like one of those podcast platforms that try to get people to pay money to listen to podcasts. It's like one of those type of deals. Like, what do you do with that money? That's not a good bet. Girls are not going to buy fuck robots, but guys especially if they were like that like the ex machina lady if they were hot I think a large percentage of men would just completely
Starting point is 02:53:52 give up on regular women if they could if you are a guy and you have unfortunate genetics and you're not the brightest but you do a thing good and you make a good wage would you go with a biological woman whom you know maybe she just wishes you worked a little
Starting point is 02:54:13 harder maybe she wishes you're a little smarter maybe she doesn't like the way you snore maybe she could or katherine zeta jones as a robot like a 30 year old katherine zeta jJones as a robot. Like a 30-year-old Catherine Zeta-Jones who's a robot who lives at your house. And she cleans all day. And she can't wait to fuck. She's not real, though. But you don't even know she's not real. You can't tell. They're that good.
Starting point is 02:54:38 Yeah. If that's the case, then what is real? It doesn't even matter anymore. That's the problem. Well, you can't have children. We just accept. Until you just accept until you can. Until you can. Until you can shoot a load in a lady and they take inside, they have a little baby factory.
Starting point is 02:54:53 Start taking your DNA and replicating it and turning it into the ultimate baby. Yeah, perfect incubation system. But then it's just your genes. You don't even mingle with her genes. So now we have a real problem. Or they could just send that thing. It's like a a mechanic or something like you send it to the shop they put some water in it right some they charge it and they you could put a woman's uh egg in there do you think eventually they realize there's no reason to have babies let's just make full-grown people why should you
Starting point is 02:55:23 ever be so small and vulnerable we could just like download's just make full-grown people. Why should you ever be so small and vulnerable? We could just like download information into their full-grown brains. Who needs to go through this bullshit stage of being a little baby where fucking everything can kill you? Then it'd be like they'd be dumb as fuck. But they wouldn't because your information all
Starting point is 02:55:40 gets downloaded into your head. We're basing it on our biological interface. So would you be able to have sex with like a one-year-old then that's like full-grown human that's the question right if they were like fully formed regular grown-up with full memories but they only existed for 18 months yeah i think it's the you know they only existed on planet earth for 18 months but it's like you know they can consent it's like whitney cummings it's like if whitney cummings is only a day old it's like she knows what she's doing you know yes it depends on what she's wearing yeah but even it doesn't even then
Starting point is 02:56:21 if she's if you're a robot that's only been around for 18 months but you have a thousand years of human history and interactions downloaded into your mind and you have no worries about emotions there's no fear there's no there's no like existential life threat there's no worry about death you're free you're a super intelligent robot, and you're 18 months old. I think you can fuck that. Definitely. Here comes the news tomorrow. Joe Rogan says he would fuck a one-year-old. More to come on CNN. One-year-old robot. Jesus.
Starting point is 02:56:57 I only said robot. I mean, dogs are fully mature at one. Well, I think eventually I really do believe that we are going to become a cyborg. And then when we think of this, we're saying it as a joke around thing, but I think they're going to realize that one of the big hiccups for human beings in life is that our bodies, our biological bodies fail. So if we could take consciousness and port it into some sort of a robot body and the consciousness exists and moves around this other... They do it slowly anyway, right?
Starting point is 02:57:27 Like, you know, if someone gets their arm bit off by a shark, they give them an artificial arm that moves around like that. And what if that artificial arm one day gets to the point where it's better than a real arm? Like the $6 million man.
Starting point is 02:57:37 Remember that show? No. Yeah, I was old. No. I'm old. Remember it, Jamie? Nobody remembers that? It was $40 million.
Starting point is 02:57:44 I know what you're talking about. There was a terrible show that was awesome at the time. The $6 million man. It was a dude who was like a fighter pilot, and he dies in a terrible crash and blows his arm off and it blows his legs off. So they put him back together again. He was a gentleman.
Starting point is 02:57:59 We can rebuild him. We can make him better than he was before. Better, stronger, faster. Wow. Another by the machines perform the same functions. This is it. Yeah, this is it. This is it. She's breaking up. So there's the jet. It's crashing. It's Steve Austin. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:58:28 The fucking jet crashes. He's fucked. Here it goes. A man barely alive. That's how Top Gun started? Wow. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology.
Starting point is 02:58:46 We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man steve austin will be that man better this is high-tech stronger stronger faster Look at his ugly high-tech feet. Look at him go. 60 miles an hour running. He looks like a normal dude from the 50s. Yeah, with a track suit on. He was a normal dude, but he fought Bigfoot. He fought Bigfoot.
Starting point is 02:59:15 You want to see the dumbest TV show that's ever been filmed? $6 million man versus Bigfoot. Imagine if you paid $6 million and that's what you got. Wait, wait, wait, wait till you see how fucking stupid this was. This was back when there was no internet and people were just dumb. They didn't know any better. Is that a black face? That's the Bigfoot.
Starting point is 02:59:35 That's what Bigfoot really looks like. See, there's Bigfoot. Wow. It's like, oh, no. Oh, I don't. Understand me. Look at this. Are you a man?
Starting point is 02:59:52 No, it never hurts to ask. It's like, oh no. Oh, I don't... Look at this. And Bigfoot's circling him. Ready to do the dance. You don't want this, bro. Easy. I don't want to hurt you. I like to think the feeling's mutual. Look at that. Look at how quick he is. Moves like a cat. Bigfoot's fucked.
Starting point is 03:00:12 He's like, god damn it. I'm trying to hit this dude. He's not even there. So he hits him and knocks him down. This is the worst fight scene in all of human history. This is why we need the UFC. I mean, they've had better fight scenes on history. This is why we need the UFC. I mean, they've had better fight scenes on Friends.
Starting point is 03:00:30 This is a terrible fight scene. Look how bad this is. Look, he grabs Steve Austin. He's coming for him. Oh, my goodness. He's going to throw him. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 03:00:45 He falls down the mountain, and Bigfoot's coming to get him. For no reason at all. Bigfoot just wants to kick his ass. And he jumps like a pro wrestler and tries to stomp him with his big stupid shoes on. Look, $6 million. Man, that's fucked. Bigfoot's going to buttfuck him. Right there. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 03:00:59 Look at this. Imagine thinking that this guy with his regular human ribs and spine. With his $6 million legs. Oh, but he got him ribs and spine with his $6 million legs. Oh, but he got him with the elbow. The $6 million elbow. Oh, takedown. Look at him. He's passing his guard.
Starting point is 03:01:13 Oh, Bigfoot kicks him with an up kick. Sends him flying. This is exactly how I pictured Hamzat Diaz going if it would have happened. Bro, this is the worst fight scene a human has ever witnessed. Look, Bigfoot just takes the $6 million man and throws him. Yay. The guy only has bionic legs, mind you. What about his neck?
Starting point is 03:01:32 Nothing. What about his spine? Nothing. What about his shoulders? Nothing. Normal shoulders. At least one normal shoulder. Now Bigfoot's got him in the mount.
Starting point is 03:01:39 Oh, but Steve Austin rolls him over. They're going to war. There's a 300-pound man and a dude who looks like he golfs once a month. And he gets on top of him, but now he's gonna pass the guard. Look! Knee him! Knee him! He's gonna hit him with the right! Oh, he karate kicks him, bro! With no leverage, off the ground kick. Terrible kick. And meanwhile, Bigfoot picks up a tree. Oh, yeah, bitch.
Starting point is 03:02:04 Oh, no. Watch this. So he's gonna up a tree. Oh yeah, bitch. Oh no. Watch this. So he's gonna swing a fucking tree at him, son. Get outta there! Get outta there, Steve! You have regular bones! He forgot he has a regular back. And regular ribs. Look at this. Here comes Bigfoot. Oh! He hits him.
Starting point is 03:02:22 Bigfoot hits him with the log and he doesn't even move! Ouch! Does nothing to avoid the log. But that's his stupid arm. That's his stupid arm. It's not his good one. His good arm is the right arm. That's the bionic one. That one is ready. Bigfoot with the tree toss. Oh, he ducks. His shoulder hurts. That's it. Got hit by a tree. Shoulder hurts. Doesn't stop him from executing the judo throw. Right. Uses the left arm in the process.
Starting point is 03:02:47 Bro, how bad is this? And it goes on forever. Look, he pulls his robot arm off! Wait, what? Oh my god. Bigfoot has a robot arm. Bigfoot has a robot arm. Plot twist. What?
Starting point is 03:02:58 The fuck? It's smoking. Plot twist. Now, Bigfoot's gonna come to get that arm back. Give me that fucking arm, bitch. Oh my God. So he's acting like an animal, even though he's a robot. He's gone. He's done.
Starting point is 03:03:15 No, Steve Austin's not done. Wow. Bigfoot might be done, but Steve Austin is a goddamn American. He doesn't let the enemy just run away like a pussy. He goes after him! Let's him know what the fuck is up. Look at this Bigfoot. Look how bad this is. He's gonna jump all the way across the river.
Starting point is 03:03:34 Ready? Here he goes. Yes! Oh, he flies. Bigfoot flies. Look. Standing bird. Oh my god. Perfect. No budget whatsoever. Oh, but don't worry because Steve Austin has six million dollar fucking legs, bro. No. No way.
Starting point is 03:03:52 Don't you fucking no way me. What are you, a communist? Look at his hair. Look how perfect he looks. Look, he's got the bionic eye. He finds a spot where Bigfoot landed. He's like, alright, I guess we're doing this. Look how easily he makes it. spot where Bigfoot landed. He's like, alright, I guess we're doing this.
Starting point is 03:04:08 Look how easily he makes it. Oh, another display. There's good twists in this. He almost choked. Could have walked across that. Gets out with six million dollar legs. Nobody took the stairs. Nobody.
Starting point is 03:04:23 Now Bigfoot's running away, but Steve Austin is hot on the chase. This whole chase scene will go on for years. It's all slow motion. It's terrible cinematography, terrible editing, piss poor writing. That was my favorite show as a kid. Wow. That was my favorite show. The Six Million Dollar Man.
Starting point is 03:04:40 Everybody loved it. All my friends. Like, did you see The Six Million Dollar Man? We're all so excited. Then they had a $6 million woman. I think the $6 million man and the $6 million woman got married in real life. I might have made that up.
Starting point is 03:04:52 Probably took the woman longer to make the $6 million. Isn't there like a She-Hulk going on right now? Yeah. Is it terrible? Yeah, there's a couple of those happening. There's like a... Yeah, she's like a lawyer. Bionicle. Oh, of course she is. She also has a big dick. It was the Bionicle Do you think like
Starting point is 03:05:07 People in this She Hulk is a lawyer Of course she's a lawyer She's the Hulk I didn't like when Mark Ruffalo stayed smart Like no no no no no no When he went smart Hulk
Starting point is 03:05:21 No no no no No no no no no Right No no no no You gotta get stupid no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. You've got to get stupid. If you want to be that big, you have to be stupid. That's the only stupid guy. You can't take away our only stupid guy. Yeah, it's like I found a way to merge the two.
Starting point is 03:05:34 No, no, no, no. I want to be in the room when that's happening. Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. That's not the Hulk. The Hulk is break glass in case of war and let that big green motherfucker fuck everything up because nothing can kill him. Oh, they're doing yoga together!
Starting point is 03:05:48 No! No! They're eating sprouts and doing yoga. Oh, no. God damn it. Attorney at law. She's an attorney at law. This is like an 80s parody. Well, I mean, in a way, that's kind of fun because that's what comic books are about.
Starting point is 03:06:03 But, you know. Is it good? Maybe it's good. Maybe I'm shitting on it. I heard it was good. I haven't watched it. You've heard a lot of things were good. I know. Let's be real.
Starting point is 03:06:11 Yeah, so don't watch it. Here it's that good. Let's not get real. They're going to look back at that as our $6 million man. They'll be like, they had no idea. Well, there's so many of them. You know what was a good comic book show? Loki.
Starting point is 03:06:22 Loki was fucking good. It's the crazy brother from Thor. He's got his own show. It's good. He's with the guy that was in Wild Wild... I forget his name. That guy. Have you seen Kenobi?
Starting point is 03:06:37 No. Kenobi's the shit. But this Loki's very good. It kind of went under the radar. It's almost like there's so much... Not under the radar with most people that are into comic books. I'm sure they loved it, but with the general public,
Starting point is 03:06:49 I feel like people missed how good it was. Their time jump, it's just, I don't even want to say what they do, but it's really incredible. Those are the same people who made the She-Hulk thing. Yeah, maybe it's good. That Kenobi thing is set up after well, right before Star Wars, the original movie.
Starting point is 03:07:10 Time-wise, it's right before that. After Darth Vader is made and before Star Wars 1. And if you think about the stuff that's happening during that time, it's really, and it's so well done. It's not, they didn't make it just for like little kids. The one everybody loved and yapped about was, what was that? Star Wars. Baby Yoda.
Starting point is 03:07:36 Yeah, but it was called. Mandalorian. Yeah. And everybody told me that it was the best and it's just too kiddy for me to beep, boop, beep, boop. But the Kenobi stuff is sweet. That's RTD, too. I don't want to give too much away, but obviously that's the timeline.
Starting point is 03:07:52 Even though it's called Kenobi, the timeline is matching up to Darth Vader at his strongest before he even gets old kind of in the suit. You know what I mean? And Ewan McGregor plays Obi-Wan Kenobi? And the original Anakin plays Anakin, Christian Hadenson. Hayden Christensen. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:08:12 Interesting. That looks good. That's the only big gap in the universe. Yeah, and it's awesome. Easy to watch. I couldn't believe it. And it gets better as it goes I would be really interested if someone decided to go in a non Disney fide way with a Star Wars
Starting point is 03:08:30 movie you have a Star Wars movie but like House of Dragons style yeah you know yeah because how goddamn good would that be instead of having at least corny like you know you know all the lasers they miss me dude so this is wild shit is that what this is this is just like that and they're showing you uh it's on yeah disney plus and again they're showing you the coolest in my opinion but i always root for the bad guys is you're seeing darth vader you're seeing thing he's the strong you're seeing Darth Vader, you're seeing things, he's the strong, you're seeing what all the hype is about. That's when he's at his strongest. It's like a fighter in his prime
Starting point is 03:09:09 because he's not dealing with all the baloney and emotions of his kids and Luke's not putting up a fight. They're just the dominant force in the universe during this time. This is them winning. And so like when stuff happens, again, I don't want to give anything away,
Starting point is 03:09:24 but it's the coolest use of the force out of all the Star Wars things ever made. Again, I can't give it away, but you'll know what I'm talking about when you get there. But wouldn't it be dope if they did a movie like that? But is it any more dope than doing series? Series are the new movies, right? Yeah, totally. I mean, a movie is almost restricted. It's almost like the difference between doing a set on a late night talk show versus being a guest on a podcast.
Starting point is 03:09:48 Yeah. Where you just have all the time in the world. Yeah. Like if you have a series, you have all the time in the world. Yep. You love the characters more. You remember it more later on. But then you get so sad when they obviously hire new writers.
Starting point is 03:09:59 Yeah. When new writers come in and butcher it. Yeah. They come in and just clunk it up. And you're like, what the fuck? I always quit. This isn't Star Wars. This House of Dragons thing is unbelievable what they're doing.
Starting point is 03:10:11 The fact that you could tell HBO, you know, even though I loved the last season of Game of Thrones, and I think people that say whatever are insane, I think so many people whatever got it made it tarnished that dynasty because it should have been rewatched and binged forever by the most yeah and meanwhile it sort of left everybody with a bad taste in their mouths and i've always been the the biggest hbo supporter because they make quality shit my whole life. I'm a huge, I'm like the biggest Sopranos fan. They have so many good things. Yeah, it's amazing. And they had boxing for the best boxing matches.
Starting point is 03:10:52 We're all on HBO. 100%. And I feel like they took that Game of Thrones thing and they're like, we're not going to fucking blow this. No, they didn't blow it at all. And they're making this thing so damn cool. It's just like Game of Thrones. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:11:06 It's a very, very similar vibe. I know the people left, though. The people that created it left already. So who knows what's going to happen for the second season. It might get tricky. Who knows? But I haven't watched the Lord of the Rings one. I heard it sucks.
Starting point is 03:11:20 The Rings of Power. Yeah. I heard really bad things about it. That's sad. Because those movies are fucking power. Yeah. I heard really bad things about it. That's sad, because those movies are fucking awesome. Yeah. I don't want to judge it prematurely, but I already did. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:11:32 The only thing I'm hearing about it is the black elves. They're like- They have black elves now? Out of nowhere? Yeah. It doesn't make sense, because it's a prequel. So there's black elves, and then there's not black elves, which bears the question, what happened to the black elves, right?
Starting point is 03:11:45 Are you gonna address that right fuck did you people do? Yeah, that's what can you tell us so we can figure out here on earth How'd I know? Role is like pale. Yeah, those are thing the elvish people Pale blonde people would it be racist to have the elves or the black people be the dwarves or like some ugly race? Hans Kim. I'm sorry. Yeah, they would be racist. There it is.
Starting point is 03:12:13 Yeah, the dwarves are always white. That's a good point. Yeah, they're going to remain white for a while. Yeah, the bad guys. Or the lesser thans. See, but they have black people in House of Dragon, and they didn't have them in Game of Thrones. How many black people were in Game of Thrones? Yeah, very few.
Starting point is 03:12:36 But it seems like that house is all black, and it seems like their name is... I think they're going to die. I mean, it's not a spoiler alert, because Game of Thrones, they're not there. That's the thing. It's the same sort of problem, I think they're going to die. I mean, it's not a spoiler alert because Game of Thrones. That's the thing. It's the same sort of problem, like where they all go. If this is a prequel and there's black people in it,
Starting point is 03:12:51 and then you have the modern version, it's the same question. And are they not racist? Do they not have an N-word in the Game of Thrones universe? I don't think they do. And they also don't have a future. Yeah. Because they're not't have a future. Yeah. Because they're not in the Game of Thrones. When you get to Game of Thrones, there's none of them.
Starting point is 03:13:09 That explains what happened to them. They probably made a wrong move. It seems like they're kind of allied against the... Well, I don't want to say anything. Yeah, don't spoil the alert. The internal strife. All right. Hanskin, it's been a lot of fun going with you on the road, buddy.
Starting point is 03:13:24 Thank you for having me, Joe. It's been fun. Huge honor. It's been a lot of fun going with you on the road, buddy. Thank you for having me, Joe. It's been fun. Huge honor. It's been a lot of good times, man. And you've been killing it. You're a funny motherfucker. Thank you, Joe. Really are. You're so odd, though. You get concerned. I'm sorry. Don't be sorry. You're awesome.
Starting point is 03:13:39 Hans keeps us entertained on the road more than anybody by saying wild shit. Like this. But this is just how you think, right? You just genuinely lack Keeps us entertained on the road more than anybody by saying wild shit. Like this. Yeah. But this is just how you think, right? Yeah. You just lack, you genuinely lack a filter. I do.
Starting point is 03:13:53 And then sometimes you say things and you go like, oh yeah, I probably shouldn't say that. Yeah. Have you ever been diagnosed with it? Do you think you have anything? No. No. I think like I could either like be like a sociopath and lie or just be completely honest and i'm like let's just do the completely honest thing right what hold on so your only two options are be a sociopath and a liar or be completely honest yeah i feel like there's no middle ground in your mind
Starting point is 03:14:20 or with humans just like logically for me how i think oh interesting yeah huh it's not good but isn't that what autism is do you think you have some sort of uh spectrum issue no i don't i uh i don't i i think uh i don't know why more people aren't like me. Do you think a lot of people that aren't autistic play Settlers of Catan for four hours a day on their phone? What is Settlers of Catan? It's a board game that you can play online. You play for four hours a day? I play a lot.
Starting point is 03:14:58 It's probably more than four hours a day. Maybe it's fun, don't you? Yeah, I agree. I just don't, I'm not autistic. Well, my friend, Brian Simpson, amazing comedian, comedian, told me he likes to focus his mind.
Starting point is 03:15:09 He likes to play chess. He likes to be doing something. Like within the parameters of a game. If it's too open-ended, then it might be a little difficult for me to operate. Yeah, we have these dismissive attitudes towards games, particularly towards video games. But there is some evidence that when you're doing a game, even a first-person shooter, you're constantly thinking and your brain is excited. And so your brain is exercising. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:15:32 It's trying to solve problems. And if you're playing a game against other human beings online, then it's like we just dismiss it because video games equal waste of time. But there's probably some real benefit, just like there's real benefit with chess like chess does increase your cognitive ability and literally it's exercise and then also Andy Galpin you know dr. Andy Galpin Jamie on Instagram he put this up we'll end with this it's getting late he put up this thing about Alzheimer's and that Alzheimer's and dementia are connected, they think, to a lack of brain activity and that it's connected. See, new evidence suggests a lack of cognitive demand, i.e. hard tasks, is the primary driver
Starting point is 03:16:18 in dementia and late-onset Alzheimer's. And so it's Dr. Andy Galpin on Instagram you should go there and read it it's very interesting but the suggestion is that just like your body gets exhausted and out of shape and just like soft and shitty same thing happens to your brain it makes sense you know in doing things hard tasks writing making your mind stimulated, and then maybe even playing video games. Yeah, it's definitely the low end of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:16:49 It's like dessert. Right. Like chess is the high end of it. Yeah. That's why I love comedy. It's like that. It does the same thing for me in terms of the video game thing. But, yeah.
Starting point is 03:17:01 All right. I'm going to piss my pants, so let's wrap this up. It's been a lot of fucking fun DJ Hans Kim on Instagram please follow him the young and powerful Tony Hinchcliffe
Starting point is 03:17:10 the man thank you hey how much fun are we having so much fun we've been having a blast it's amazing London in a month
Starting point is 03:17:16 it's been fun times oh boy yay alright bye everybody Thank you.

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