The Joe Rogan Experience - #1902 - Danny Brown
Episode Date: November 23, 2022Danny Brown is a rapper, singer, songwriter, and host of "The Danny Brown Show" podcast. His latest album "Quaranta" will be available soon. www.xdannyxbrownx.com ...
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The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
But then you thinking like that, that's like...
That's the curse of being successful though, right?
When people lean on you.
I'm successful but on my own terms.
Yeah, but that's still successful. Yeah, but that's still successful.
Yeah, but... On your own terms is great.
Because, see, my shit was the music industry.
And the music industry is one of those type of situations where
you can be as creative as you want to be, but does that make you money?
You know?
So you have this whole fucking, like, angel and double on your shoulder.
Make a hit song.
Or be creative as you want to be do what you want to do or do what you think is going to sell my whole entire career i just did
what i wanted to do yeah and but at this point after 10 years i sit back sometime and i think
about like damn did i make a mistake because you know it's still a lot of people in my family that
struggle and it's like fuck you know what if i just didn lot of people in my family that struggle. It's like, fuck, you know?
But if I just didn't care about being Danny Brown and being so cool and trying to make the most experimental music I could possibly make,
fucking just don't give a fuck.
Make that fucking hit song.
But isn't that you, though?
But I can do it.
You could do both.
That's the whole thing of what makes you a great artist.
See, like a person like jay-z he does both
does both yeah i don't know if i can do both because it's such a drastic it's such a drastic
change from what i love is underground music yeah and what is commercially and considered to be pop
music is such a drastic it's such a fucking you know what i'm saying so i don't know if i can ever
make it's like with patricia o'neill when he's ever been a fucking like you know I'm saying
commercial I stand up copy what I'm saying yeah no I think you would have
been at this point in age yeah yeah we would have forced it through yeah and
that's what I made it that's the one person that I look up to he was amazing
so I look up him so much and we have everybody would have forced it through
like even if he couldn't get on the television show even if nothing ever He was amazing. I look up him so much. Everybody would have forced it through.
Even if he couldn't get on a television show,
even if nothing ever happened for him like that,
we would have all had him on podcasts.
Because even with my rap career and just how I look at making music,
I look at him as a super inspiration.
It was my last album, which was called You Know What I'm Saying,
which is actually from Tom and Christina because they had this bit. We had this bit where they had niggas, and you know niggas be like, you know what I'm saying, which is actually um from time and Christina because they had this bit
But they we had his bit where they had niggas any no niggas. You know what I'm saying
You know even me I say you know what I'm saying like a lot like a mother but before that
The name of the album was the Patricia O'Neill theory
Because Patrice O'Neill he had this theory where you talk about like men has periods
But we don't necessarily have periods periods we just want to fuck another bitch
so every time you're mad at your girl like she's like all on you and she's like
you're like my woman is beautiful you know i'm saying like being but you're like bitch
because you just want another taste of something you give it a chance
and when you get that?
Like, it's to the point where
if you've been so faithful for so long,
you're like,
I'll fuck a homeless bitch on the corner.
You get what I'm saying?
But if I did,
it's going to make me love you so much more.
Like, I won't have this attitude,
which is this whole attitude I got,
which you think,
why are you so bad?
Why are you acting like this?
Because I need some new pussy.
And that's all it is but
the Patrice O'Neal theory
that's the Patrice O'Neal theory
he had a lot of great theories
but I would say
listen
I'm going to say this
because I love my girl at home
I know she probably
listened to this
I love you baby
but no I'm out of there
I don't have that
don't get hurt
like that no more
I'm 40 years old.
It's like, come on.
This motherfucker has been burnt out.
They've been hitting this motherfucker.
Bitch been speed bagging his dick.
This dick been getting speed bagged for the last 10 years.
When did you decide to do this podcast that you're doing with your mom's house?
Because it's hilarious.
No, the thing was that, oh, you know Uncle Joey.
It started with him.
He started?
No, you want me to bring it?
Because it goes back into me just being a rapper and just me being on some rap shit.
And I was on tour.
I was on tour for a long part of time.
And being on tour, you get bored.
And I'm a gamer.
So I bought a lot of video games.
And guess what?
I bought UFC.
Before the good UFCs.
This is a whatever UFC video game.
So I'm playing that, and you were the fucking announcer on it.
So I'm playing that, and you're the announcer on the album tour.
And then I guess, I don't know, some type of way I was watching UFC or some shit.
And then I seen you on there, and it was like, oh, this the nigga from the video game.
Is this not hilarious to you?
Like, this is how I got up on this whole shit.
So I'm like, this the nigga from the video game, Joe Rogan.
So then I started listening to Joe Rogan shit.
And then from seeing Joe Rogan shit, I seen Uncle Joey on there.
And I see Uncle Joey on there.
And I just started going through the fucking the rabbit hole
of y'all shit
like even the shit
of fucking
fucking Red Band
dumbass
always talking about
fucking Olive Garden
and shit like that
like the fucking
Olive Garden and butthole
yeah like the
Justin TV day
like I've
so so
I've been
like I will
credit you to
fucking up my
fucking music career
in some sense.
No.
I will say that.
Because it got to the point where all I did was, all I ever did in my life was listen to music.
Like, I was one of those people where I would, like, be like, man, people don't really listen to music.
They just listen to music in their cars or when they got to function.
Not just sit down and listen.
I'm the type of person that listens to music 24-7 a day.
Whatever new, whatever.
I'm the type of person that listens to music 24 seconds a day.
Whatever new, whatever.
But then I started getting into podcasting and listening to your shit and doing that and all that.
So just being into podcasting and listening to y'all shit,
you know, fucking with Uncle Joey and all that shit.
And then I got into Why I Made shit, listening to their shit.
And then, you know, just time hit me up, like, come through.
But when time hit me up, he didn't know how much of a fan boy i was of the shit so when i came through i was hitting them
with all this shit you know all the fucking whammy shit like you know straight real mommy shit you
get what i'm saying like jeans yeah so the jeans so that's what happened the jeans the whole the
fan base of the whole shit fucked with me they They knew I was, like, real in this shit.
So they embraced me with that shit.
So Tom would always hit me up and talk about it.
He'd be like, man, because me and Tom would, like, FaceTime and, like, talk to each other.
Some real friend shit.
He had nothing to do with no business or nothing else.
And Tom would be like, man, you should do a podcast.
I'm telling you, you'll be good at doing podcasts.
I'm glad he told you that.
And this and that.
But my whole shit was with him.
And I was like, man, no.
told you that and this and that and but my whole shit was with him and i was like man no being good at podcast is good but the actual production of it which make podcasts good
because i can set up a fucking camera and a fucking microphone in my bedroom and start
talking shit in front of the camera but is that going to be good yeah danny it would be good
but i was like listen it's all of it's good it just captures you it's nice to have great
production and the way they do it at your mom's house is awesome you have like a real professional
studio i went over there and visited yeah it's beautiful the whole setup is beautiful but that's
my whole shit i was like i'm not going to do it unless it's like but you could do it on facetime
it doesn't matter i know but it doesn't you're just you're just good at it you you because you're
a fan of podcasts for so long I think you're
probably talking back in your head yeah like I gotta be big I gotta be like you
gotta look I gotta look professional it can be it can be fucking pussy this is
the the double-edged sword with that with me because what I loved about
podcasting was like I was almost like a fly on the wall against seeing like
friends just hanging out drinking and talking shit right and now when you watch podcast and it's so fucking overproduced i heard that these niggas is writing
scripts now no i swear i heard some shit like that where they said these niggas got scripts
and they looking at them on a trailer prompter you know and they sitting there doing podcasts
they doing scripted podcasts podcast is supposed to be like You just a fly on the wall
Sitting there in the room
With a couple friends
And you hearing them talking shit
And you like
That's why we love
Fucking Rogan so much
You get what I'm saying
Yeah
In the beginning stages
Now
This some real shit
Nah
Nah this is
You know what I'm saying
Yeah
But in the beginning stages
Shit like no
We're a fly on the wall
But
The point of
That that has turned to what
Media
Is in real life now Is It makes so much sense when you got fucking we went through reality TV so much.
Now, motherfuckers that play video games watch other motherfuckers that play video games for fun.
I had a bit a long time ago about a cameraman from a reality TV show getting his own reality TV show.
So the reality TV show was about a cameraman following around a cameraman on a reality TV show.
And then I go, but then people are going to go, well, what about the cameraman behind the cameraman?
And then they're going to do a cameraman show on that.
Me and my fucked up brain, I would love to see that show,
but it has to be like the niggas that shoot porn, though.
I want to know about the porn camera man.
Porn camera man?
Yeah.
He a little creepy, too.
He a little creepy.
How you get that job?
You just looking for it?
Because I feel like camera man is such a vast.
Nigga, you shooting for the NBA,
or you shooting for the motherfucking anal projections?
Whatever you doing.
You get what I'm saying?
So you got to, you picking your poison.
Yeah, you could be a professional and work for both.
I mean, no, at the end of the day,
what I will say that's good about the cameraman shit
is that just like everything else with DJing,
everything that comes with the internet, internet everything or even like production equipment all
this shit has become so easy to use now we're back in the day it wasn't really
like I couldn't go on YouTube and find an instruction manual to how to use the
MPC you know Jamie's a audio engineer like a real audio engineer who went to
school for it I did go to. There was no YouTube for it.
And then, like, the year I graduated, YouTube got invented.
And you were just learning all this shit on YouTube at that point.
How much of what you learned in school is still valid?
It's hard to say because a lot of – there's even – some of the computer programs,
they don't edit for you, but they handle a lot of the shit that was difficult.
Oh, yeah? You know, the fucked up part that i think about is that it's better in this sense it's because you get a lot of different
point of views like yeah if i'm a nigga that i'm trying to learn some shit on youtube it's a
and it's a topic that has a lot of different people that's talking about it i'm taking yeah
the best parts of or whatever Identifies on me
I'm like oh I'm figuring
That shit out
And do that
Like that
Instead of just
Learning from one person
Yeah
Oh you know
I just started
I've joined a Muay Thai gym
Oh yeah
Yeah man
Where at
I suck
Shouts out to all my boys
Fucking old girl
Muay Thai
Shout out to my boy Spencer
My boy Dave
My motherfuckers
Chantel
Autumn
Yeah no I suck
I actually suck
that's okay
I'm not
nobody sucks in the beginning
no
I'm chilling out
right now
I'm not
I'll probably go back
in a few months
yeah
but you were doing it
no I've
three
three four months hard
yeah
yeah
it's good for you man
it's great to get
tension out too
yeah but it's one of those
things
you know yeah but I didn't know that part, though, because I was doing privates.
Yeah.
And that was fun, you know, learning shit.
Privates are good.
Then I was like, you know what, let me go to real class, start going to real class.
Oh, and sparring with people and shit?
No, pad holding.
Oh.
My nigga.
I ain't signing up for that, y'all.
Holding the pads for people is bullshit.
Bro, I ain't signing up for that, y'all.
So I haven't been back.
I actually haven't been back.
No, I mean, I'm going through a lot of shit.
You know why I haven't been back to Muay Thai?
I don't even know.
But, I guess I'm talking about it.
But no, we was in class one day.
Shouts out to my nigga Spencer, man.
We was in class one day. And then this nigga my nigga Spencer, man. We was in class one day.
And then this nigga was like, oh, you know what it is?
Because I didn't have no Muay Thai shorts.
So I was just like, you know, I was wearing my normal, like, regular shorts.
I'm wearing, like, Gucci shorts and shit.
The whole gym looking at me crazy.
But so, like, I'm going to buy some Muay Thai shorts.
And you know me, I'm a nigga.
I'm going to buy some fly shit. So I bought the sh buy some Muay Thai shorts. And you know me, I'm a nigga. I'm going to buy some fly shit.
So I bought the shiniest Muay Thai shorts I could find.
Them motherfuckers look like, you know what I'm saying?
They look like gold.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, these bitches fire though.
You know what I'm saying?
I got the fire Muay Thai shorts.
What do they look like?
You have a picture of them?
I mean, I could show you.
Yeah, show me a picture.
So the gold shiny Muay Thai shirt.
But I showed it to the Muay Thai.
But I think he felt he was like me.
You know what that made me feel like?
It was like when a nigga suck at basketball.
And then he show up with the whole Jordan fit on.
With the Jordans and the iris and sleeve and all that.
So I felt like that's what Muay Thai was looking at me like at that point.
But I didn't have no Muay Thai clothes on.
This is my first time buying some Muay Thai shit. I'm an ill nigga. I love fashion. So I'm going to's what Muay Thai was looking at me like at that point. But I didn't have no Muay Thai clothes on. This is my first time buying some Muay Thai shit.
I'm an ill nigga.
I love fashion.
So I'm going to buy some black shit.
What you want me to buy?
Some normal fake ass shit?
So during the class.
Yeah, they got to let that go.
Yeah.
So one of the teachers, she was like, you know, you got these shiny ass shirts on.
You worried about the wrong shit.
And I thought to myself.
Why would anybody care? It's fucking shorts. But I thought to myself. would anybody care it's fucking shorts but i thought to myself and i was like you know what you right i am worried about the wrong shit why am i here
playing bruce leroy with y'all niggas and i got to put a fucking album out so i haven't been to
muay thai since i've been at the crib trying to finish my when i get back and i thought about it
too because the way
it started
is because
I would always talk about
on my podcast
how I got my ass whooped before
and he hit me up
and was like
yo you tired of getting
your ass whooped
come to Muay Thai class
and not necessarily
me I'm just trying
to get in shape
I just don't want to
you know
I don't want to be fat
you know
but that's a good thing
for getting in shape
it's the funnest thing
to get in shape
hitting pads and all that shit
you're learning something that's fun
and it's tiring. No, it was great.
It was actually great. It's like the best way
to get a cardio in because it's actually fun
to do. Whereas like a lot of
cardio is just suck. It's just
getting through the suck like an assault bike.
That's just getting through suck.
I was actually having a great time.
I was having fun. So yeah, so I haven't
been ever since that episode. So I haven't been ever since that episode.
So, I haven't been.
You got to go back.
And they got to let that go.
They got to let that shit go.
I was hanging with them.
You're Danny Brown.
You should be allowed to wear whatever fucking shorts you want.
That's one thing I thought about, too, though.
That's what you're supposed to be.
But, you know, they sell their own shit, too.
So, maybe you feel like I was bad.
I didn't buy their shit.
They got to let that shit go.
All that shit they have in their head about what kind of fucking shorts you have,
who gives a shit?
But part two,
I just looked at it like
I never joined this situation
as me trying to fight a nigga.
They're shorts.
No, I'm saying,
I get it.
They're just shorts.
No, I get it,
because even one time
we had a conversation,
they was like,
man, you got to know
how to protect yourself.
And this and that.
I'm like,
nigga,
if I hit a nigga,
I'm going to get sued.
True.
And part two,
if a nigga hit me, I'm going to shoot this nigga.
Like, guns.
Y'all forget that guns exist, and we live in Texas.
I don't give a fuck about how many elbows you throw.
Good point.
Niggas with big-ass guns.
Big-ass guns.
Especially in the climate, the situation that I live in.
It's not like, you get what I'm saying?
Yes. Bro, so me doing more trial, having not like you get what I'm saying like bro
so me doing
Muay Thai
I'm 40 years old
I'm not about to
fucking
fight nobody
I would never
think that you would
but
I think everybody
should learn
at least
some
understanding
of martial arts
let me say this
be good for everybody
one thing it did for me
I don't want to talk
I hate this but I had to say because I will forget understanding of martial arts. Let me say this. Be good for everybody. One thing it did for me, and I don't want to talk,
I hate this,
because I'm,
but I had to say,
because I will forget.
That's my fucked up brain.
I know podcasting,
oh, you don't talk about no mother,
you know,
but I'm sorry.
But if I don't say it, I'll forget it.
But it humbled the fuck out of me,
because I'm the type of motherfucker,
I talk shit.
Like, I get drunk.
Like, nigga, nigga,
what's up, nigga?
What the fuck, nigga?
You know what I'm saying
Nigga what
Nigga
I seen people
Nigga
Nurses
Women
Five foot three
Hundred and forty pounds
Kick in a bag
You look like
Nigga
If this
If she hit me
With one of these
It's a wrap
You get what I'm saying
So
It humbled the fuck out of me
And it made me know That I would never I never want to fight Anyone in my life with one of these. It's a wrap. You get what I'm saying? So they humbled the fuck out of me.
And it made me know that I would never,
I never want to fight anyone in my life.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
It's like everything else.
It looks way easier than it is.
If you're watching the UFC and you're watching Israel Adesanya
versus Alex Pajero
and you're watching the best in the world
and you think,
if somebody fucks with me, I'm going to do something
to them. You have no
idea how far that gap is.
It's humbling
because a girl's walking around with
140 pounds, right? So that means
her muscles in her legs are carrying 140
pounds everywhere she goes.
If she kicks you in the head, you're going
unconscious. So yeah, that's what's
been happening with my Muay Thai gym
that's why I haven't been back
to Muay Thai
it's good though
that hallway thing's good
actually fucking Tony
they had a
UFC
they had a party
for the
I'll assign you a prayer or fight
oh did they
and he hit me up
Tony's like come through
pull up
pull up
but I was sad about
the Muay Thai shit
but still
yeah
so it turned you off
to martial arts
no no
12th planet 10th planet 10th planet i
know what day around the corner right yeah yeah he was just saying just go over there well that's
a good place too you don't you don't have to go to the same gym no as i'm saying go to someone
who respects you i might have to switch gyms yeah go to someone who respects you because i'm danny
brown i can't be fucking wearing no bullshit That's what I'm saying
Whoever's running that gym
Let it go
No no
It's
Part two is not
The person that's running the gym
Bro
Dennis Rodman shows up at your gym
You gonna tell him
What fucking shorts he can wear
You right
You can't
And guess what
This is my first time buying
So it made me feel bad
You know how it is
When you're trying to be cool
Cause I didn't have no Muay Thai clothes
I've been wearing just regular shorts Pull up. I never will wear their gym shit
This is the first time I wore the gym t-shirt to the gym
Yeah, this niggas like you worried about the wrong shit. You trying to look cool to do Muay Thai
This is bad. You suck at Muay Thai and it's like bro. I join Muay Thai to get in shape
So that's what happened. I like I said, I haven't been doing what I,
I've been going
to a normal gym
just doing normal shit,
getting in shape,
doing that.
Well,
that's good too,
but they need
to respect the shorts.
There's this dude
named Badr Hari.
He's still,
still an active kickboxer,
but at one point in time
he was like
one of the best
in the world,
if not the best
in the heavyweight division
and he would fight
like golf shorts on.
I've been watching
a lot of one.
Oh,
one championship?
Yeah,
Rod Tang.
Whew.
That dude's a beast.
I like that
because they have
the just straight
Muay Thai fights
and shit like that
so I like watching
their shit.
Did you see when
Rod Tang fought
Mighty Mouse?
Yeah,
Mighty Mouse
whooped his ass.
They had a mixed fight.
It was one round
this,
one round that.
Yeah.
Mighty Mouse
fucked him up.
Yeah,
well,
Mighty Mouse
got through the first round
and landed some good shots.
I look up to Mighty Mouse so much.
Oh, he's so good.
He's so good.
Like, I look at, um, I know it's, like, weird.
Like, I mean, because I don't, like, I mean, a lot of people feel like shit like race baiting and shit like that.
But you got to think, like, martial arts and, like, urban communities like it's not like it's not a fucking
muay thai gym up the street right so for a person to be from the hood and be like man i want to
you know get into that shit and get to fighting because niggas fight every day niggas do all
type of shit it's actually i guess for the most part it would be boxing because i'm not easier
to get into but like jujitsu is expensive because even even me, I can't lie, I was always like crunk.
Like me being from Detroit, it's always was boxing gyms around.
That I could, if I wanted to, I could have gotten to.
Did you ever go into crunk?
Fuck no.
No?
Fuck no.
Yo, look at me, man.
I know, but just to look around, man, that place is so legendary.
Let me break it down to you, man.
Emmanuel Stewart, Tommy Hearns. It's different type of people in life man you get what i'm saying yeah you want them type of
niggas you was always about the muscles and kicking niggas some niggas bro some niggas
don't care about this and all they care about is what the clothes yeah so i was always a fashion
guy right like think about i get it you never was a fashion guy nope see. Like, think about it. I get it. You never was a fashion guy.
Nope.
See?
Look at me now.
I wear a fanny pack.
Don't that sound fucked up, though?
No, it doesn't sound fucked up to me at all.
No, because, no, I'm saying.
I could get it.
No, that's the thing. I could understand it.
But that's the thing about it.
It's like, people that work out, I got this muscle-ass body.
I can take my shirt off and show you how I look.
Right.
And then there's certain niggas that's like, no, what that shirt you took off?
That was some bullshit. this shirt you took off That was some bullshit
No, it's what I'm saying is just fashion
But this is roots of fight. When you got muscles.
This is an old smoking Joe Frazier.
Joe, you're not even giving a thing.
This is from one of his fights.
When you got muscles, niggas don't care what kind of clothes you wear.
I know, but to me, this is like artwork.
This is the advertisement for smoking Joe Frazier's fight from 1971.
Shut up. Come on, man fight from 1971. Shut up.
Come on, man.
Shut up.
Shut up.
This would be a great vintage pickup for me.
I will buy this.
I will buy this.
So that was fashionable.
I'll get it for you.
We're not making it like that.
But I'm trying to tell you, it's some people.
It's people.
No, it's people.
No, I'm telling you.
It's people in this world that are like, all I got to do, I don't have to look muscular.
All I got to do is stay this certain size to be able to fit this certain type of clothing.
See, that's what y'all are, niggas.
But I get it.
I get it because there's people that work out.
But they ain't working out to do that.
They just doing coke and not eating.
There's people that work out that also do that.
They also get into fashion.
I just don't give a fuck. No, it sucks.
I just don't give a fuck.
I appreciate it. Like,
when I see people that are into it,
I appreciate it. I don't not like it.
Like, when I see someone that has great style,
you have great style. Brendan Schaub
has great style. No, he doesn't. I think he does.
I like the way he dresses. I think it looks
cool. I don't do it, but I he does. I like the way he dresses. I think it looks cool. I don't do it,
but I like it. I like when people put a little
effort in. I like it, but I don't
put any effort in. No, because you got me.
That's what I just told you. It's not because
I have muscles. It's because I'm busy.
And then you don't got waves. I'm busy.
I don't have anything, man.
I don't have anything, man. I got bald, stupid
hair. But no,
but I like when people are into it.
I don't see a guy who dresses nice and go, look at this fucking idiot.
But no, I tell you, that is no.
I think it looks good.
What I was saying that to say is that's like a defense mechanism for a lot of people, where
they feel like, if I'm just good enough shape to look good in the clothes that I want to
wear, that's good enough.
I don't have to be muscular.
Yeah, that makes sense.
It's also, it shows that, like, this is what you care about more,
aesthetics and style and cool shit, you know?
Cool shit.
God damn it.
You want to hit me with the fucking fire?
Nice clothes are cool shit.
That's all I care about.
I know you do.
But you know what's fucked up about me?
I think where I'm at this point in my life, where I'm at, God damn it, Daniel, like, you got to grow up, you know what's fucked up about me? I think where I'm at this point in my life, where I'm at,
God damn it, Daniel, you got to grow up.
Because I lived my entire life as a teenager.
I would try to hold that back.
If you and I were closer, I would try to tell you to not grow up
and just stay who you are.
You have to have money to not grow up.
I think you could get both.
I mean, I've done good by myself. I i mean i've done when i watch your pot but watch
i know you have but when i watch your podcast i'm like this dude has a fucking hilarious podcast
me and tom talked about it on the phone i called him up i go dude danny brown kills me i go i watch
that show all the time he goes he's so good and i go isn't it amazing that someone could just like
jump into podcasting and but now i get it because you were always a fan of listening
to podcasts so you were kind of talking you're kind of having those conversations in your head
no you want to hear some other real shit too is my entire musical career it wouldn't been
what it was if i didn't do interviews how's that my music is one thing you know what i'm saying but when you meet me and talk to me people like
that more than they like my music i see what you're saying so like your personality goes along
and it sells the music and then once you like me then you're like oh i like his music a little bit
you know what i'm saying so i think that's what it that's the same for comics with podcasts
i don't know Oh yeah definitely
I see a lot of
Hated comics
That get a lot of views
And get a lot of
Doing good for themselves
Like Hate Watch
Yeah
I don't know man
There's a lot of
Recreational outrage
But I think
For the most part
Bro you got me high
If you get better
And you keep
Doing it
Brandon Schaub had fire
I like the way
He dresses
I think he dresses good Listen I'm got dressed. I think your dress is good.
Listen, I'm wearing a hoodie.
I fucking, I dress terrible.
I like, but we did get dressed up.
I did a show with Tony Hinchcliffe, Brian Simpson, and Hans Kim at the MGM.
Those are all my homies.
Those are all my homies.
We got David August to design suits for us.
So there were custom made suits.
You want to see this shit?
Look at this picture.
I'm going to show you something.
No, yeah, show me some shit.
No, I did some.
Listen, I'm not always gross.
No, I never thought about that.
I don't mean it that way.
But I mean, most of the time, I just don't give a fuck about what I'm wearing.
I wear what I like to wear.
What looks comfortable for me.
Let me tell you like this.
I like the shirt.
If you was to hop on some fashion shit and show up with a crazy fucking gucci shirt on or something like that i would judge you way
more than anything else you give it up of course then you're trying hard you know the thing is
with me is it's fashion is about us being i mean we won't be in race in urban communities but
you know they say like black people or when you broke, you don't got it like that.
So you just want to kind of look like you got it like that.
So being in the hood.
No, I completely get it.
So, yeah.
So being in the hood.
That's with Italians as well.
It's very similar with my family.
So that's all it is.
In my whole fashion, bro, fashion fucked up my school.
Like, it fucked up my life.
How?
Because I would skip school all the time just to go buy clothes.
Really?
Yes.
Hudson's.
Oh, see, it's not called Hudson's anymore.
Oh, Hudson's, to what people would be, it would be Macy's.
So Macy's had a clearance sale.
The clearance sale was happening on Tuesday.
All me and my fashion buddies, we know, on Tuesday.
Macy's having a clearance sale.
We show up in front of the school like gangbanging, like we about to go do some ill shit.
But no, we literally just trying to go buy a $40 polo.
None of us have money like that.
We all high school kids.
The most somebody
probably have on them
is $300 at the most.
You get what I'm saying?
But you can go
Armani Exchange.
I remember I caught
an Armani Exchange t-shirt
for like $25.
But when I looked on the tag,
it was like $125.
It's like, ugh.
Like shit like that
was like going back home
like, ooh, I'm about to
wear this tomorrow.
I'm about to kill shit.
You get what I'm saying
Yeah
No one gave a fuck
No one gave a fuck
But it's just
So yeah
But even
So the clothes
Represented something to you
That was like unattainable
Represented
Cool shit
That was
Oh yeah
Even now
That people wanted
To this day
Like me doing a podcast
I still bring something from school.
Like, if niggas want to watch the podcast, I haven't worn the same shirt twice.
Really?
No.
So you thought.
So I'm buying shirts every week.
Like, oh, fuck.
Tell everybody, like, you thought the podcast was going to be tomorrow.
And you had some shit prepared.
Oh, no.
I had an ill ass. Oh, no, I had an ill ass,
oh, I got this ill ass fucking,
part two, I'm glad I didn't
because I feel like people would have seen that
and like, that nigga trying too hard.
No, part two,
so I think God did it for a reason.
Maybe.
Because I probably shouldn't have been on here like that
because I did, I did.
What were you gonna wear?
No, I got this ill ass,
I got this leather jacket,
a nude leather jacket,
it got like spikes and shit on there.
Will you please wear it the next time you come on?
Oh, I'm coming back?
Fuck yeah.
You heard him say it.
100%.
I'm back, I'm back.
Fuck yeah, 100%.
But no, no, but I'm glad it happened like this because I actually was kind of stressed out about it.
I do seriously enjoy people that dress nice.
It's just, for me, it's like I enjoy flowers, but I'm not planting any.
My dressing nice, I don't think you would consider it to be dressed nice.
I don't know.
Let me see.
That's us.
Come on, son.
We look good.
Look at Hans Kim.
Look at Hans Kim.
Look at young Jamie with the fucking sunglasses at night.
That's how high we were.
Where was this?
Where was this?
At the MGM in Vegas.
Oh, shit.
Vegas.
Oh, Vegas.
I have so many bad memories of Vegas.
I never leave my hotel in Vegas.
Really?
No, every time I've been in Vegas, I've just been there and I just do what I got going on.
You gamble?
Do you gamble at all?
No, I don't gamble. But I do gamble to lose money.
You want to lose money?
No.
That's the way I gamble.
Oh, you gamble wild.
Yeah.
With no intentions of winning.
So let's just say, like, if I go to Vegas, I'll be like, all right, I'm going to get $1,000 out.
Not just wild out with a little $1,000.
Once I lose my $1,000, that's a wrap.
I ain't doing nothing else.
I played blackjack with my wife.
We were in town for something, and we played blackjack for like an hour and i said all right i'm gonna i
have like 400 bucks on me i go let's just try that it was gone in like a half an hour i'm not i'm not
even aggressively betting i'm just terrible i don't have any desire you know no that's the
whole thing with me last time i was in ve. I fucking um, I'm like, all right
It was time for me to go so like fucking let me just throw a little yeah, darling. It's time for the go
Guess I'm gonna fucking hit
No, then you're hooked
You see what Drake's and I was in it look so listen this dick fucked up part of me
I get it all I'll run it on a roulette table. I listen. This is the fucked up part of me. I get it all.
I run it on a roulette table.
I run it all the way up to like 10 racks.
I put 10 racks on one number.
No.
Oh, my God.
Because I started with 100.
So my whole shit was like, you know, whatever. So I put the 10 racks on the whole.
Obviously, I lose.
They count on that
that's the whole game so obviously i lose i lose the 10 racks i'm so pissed so i just leave i was just so pissed just leave out but i left my wallet my phone i'm over here at the airport now. Time to board my flight. Oh no. I don't got shit.
Now I gotta go all the way
back to the casino.
I get back and guess what? My shit's
sitting on the table. Right there.
No one ever even touched it.
No one ever even came to this fucking table.
So I get that.
That's lucky.
What you think I'd do?
What did God do? What did'd do? What did God do?
What did I do?
What did you do?
I was looking for revenge
I had to go get that
You went back in
I said fuck the flight
Fuck the flight
And went to the ATM
Grabbed some cash
Shut up
How much did you wind up down?
Oh, 5,000
Isn't that crazy?
Know how many stories
Vegas has like that?
No, and that was How you do this? And that was broke for me That ain't no real money You know how many stories Vegas has like that? No, and that was...
How do you do this?
And that was broke for me.
That ain't no real money.
You get what I'm saying?
Put it at the top of it.
Oh, shit.
But yeah.
You got me.
They got you.
They'll get you.
The only thing that I like to bet on is fights.
The other side.
Flip it to the other side.
And then pull that thing down, that black thing.
And if you put the one that's on the top, the little switch.
Yeah. Just pull that down. Pull it down. There black thing. The one that's on the top? The little switch? Yeah.
Just pull that down.
Pull it down.
There you go.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, I mean, that's the reason why they're so big.
They're not big because they lose money.
These fucking giant places run out of juice.
Yeah, I'll fill that thing up.
My bad.
It's just I've met too many people that were uh gambling addicts you
know i used to play a lot of pool and i was always around these dudes that were like hardcore
gambling addicts they would gamble on pool they would gamble on playing poker they would all do
off-track betting because in new york you could gamble on like horse racing and carriage racing you could gamble on so many
different things so the pool hall was where all the gambling junkies hung out gambling scares the
out of me only thing i ever gambled we just shoot dice to what shoot dice oh she dies yeah
yeah in the bathroom man yeah gambling's exciting but it should be legal the idea and that's cool. Gambling's exciting. But it should be fucking legal.
The idea that it's not
legal in some places
to me is so stupid.
I mean,
sports gambling.
This is one of the things
that's,
you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
It's fun.
Sports gambling is fun.
I hate to say it,
man,
but the Adesanya fight,
I knew he was going to lose.
How could you say that?
He almost won.
Just his eyes.
He was three rounds down.
I ain't going to lie. Or three rounds up, rather. Just his eyes. He was three rounds down. I ain't going to lie.
Or three rounds up, rather.
Just his eyes.
His eyes.
What?
Something about him when he was talking.
Come on.
And I swear, this is me.
His eyes.
This is what his eyes were.
No, this is me.
And I bet on a lot of fights, and I win a lot.
Yeah?
And.
But I would say I bet against him on the Cannoneer fight, so I was.
Well, that's a risky bet, too.
Yeah, that was a little.
But I thought I was trying to come up.
I was trying to come up.
But this fight, I just kind of felt sorry for him, kind of.
Like, I knew it.
Like, just his eyes, the way he looked.
Something about the way he looked and the way,
even when he walked out, just something in his face to me,
I was like, man, this nigga about to lose.
And I wanted to call all my homies and be like, man, bet against us.
But I didn't want to lose people money.
So I just kept my shit to myself.
And I was like, but I honestly felt to myself like this nigga about to lose.
This is what you're seeing.
You're not seeing that he's thinking he's going to lose or that he's scared to lose.
What you're seeing is the magnitude of the guy he's about to fight.
And that's, you can't change that.
It doesn't change how a man performs
once he's under duress and stress,
but you can't ignore the magnitude.
And if you ever go back and watch Mike Tyson fights,
this is where you see it the best.
When dudes were walking into that ring
to fight Mike Tyson,
they looked like they were being executed.
Yeah.
They were going to their death.
They were getting arrested.
They were getting processed. They were getting processed.
They had this look in their face like, fuck.
Are you saying Israel ain't had that look on his face to you?
Israel definitely did not have that look on his face.
What he had a look on his face is an understanding of what that fucking guy can do.
Of what could happen.
That guy, Alex Pahetta.
But I never seen that from him.
I never seen it.
Because that guy's already knocked him out.
That guy knocked him out. I know. I've seen it. I've seen it. I've watched all that seen it. Because that guy's already knocked him out. That guy knocked him out.
I know, I've seen it.
I've watched all that shit.
Bro, that guy's a fucking destroyer.
You've got to understand, like, people are looking at him beating Izzy, right?
But you don't understand, nobody even touches Izzy.
Nobody touches him.
And Pajero just put him away.
Izzy fights Jan Bohovic, who is the light heavyweight champ.
No, even, no, him beating Romero.
Yeah.
And then him beating Costa.
Yeah.
And then fucking Whitaker.
Bro, the Paulo Costa fight.
Paulo Costa is a fucking marauder.
Bro, that nigga don't even need to fight.
So jacked.
He just started OnlyFans.
So good looking.
Just started OnlyFans. So good looking. Just started OnlyFans.
But that fucking dude just marches people down and smashes them.
He marched down Yoel Romero, and he didn't even touch Izzy.
He didn't even touch him.
But that's how good Pajero is.
He's that good.
No, I'm definitely terrified.
But see, that's one thing.
That's what I was saying.
Me just fucking with the Muay Thai class and shit.
Dude, I was trying to warn people.
Because a lot of times, I get drunk.
I talk shit.
Of course you do.
I talk shit to people.
Now imagine talking shit to a guy like Tejeda.
But no, not even that.
Imagine talking shit to a fucking nurse.
Fucking secretary that been taking Muay Thai for three years.
She's easy with us.
You don't even know this bitch do anything.
And that's what I seen.
They actually had
a stamp fair tech.
She actually did a session.
I mean,
a thing at our gym.
Oh, wow.
And just even seeing her
and how small she is
and that,
like, bro.
Yeah.
Bro, I'm good.
I'm good.
So, I mean,
it humbled me.
I will say that.
Well, it's just a little bit
of reality check.
The thing is, we live in Texas.
Yeah.
And all these niggas got guns.
For sure.
Everybody got guns.
So it's like, what is, you can't even, listen, no one is ever saying that martial arts are better than having a gun.
No one's ever saying that.
What I'm saying is, just for your own head.
Yeah, just do it.
Just for your own head, it's good to know how to fight.
So if someone gets crazy with you you just go okay last time i was in the gym they
was like well we need to you know he's talking about that kind of kind of man i can't fight
nobody they're gonna sue me you don't want to fight somebody but what i'm saying is somebody
wants to fight you that's why you got guns yeah but if you don't get to the gun it's just a good
thing i'm gonna have it on me.
It's just, I believe you.
And especially since we're here and you can have it.
It's a good thing to know.
So it makes sense just to have a gun.
Yeah.
Especially as a black man in America.
Do you believe that a well-armed society is a polite society?
No.
No?
Not at all?
No.
Because just me being able to travel and going to Europe and shit like that where guns aren't a thing.
And I see how well-behaved people act because of that simple notion.
Like, right now, like, what I talked about, like, going to Muay Thai, how much that humbled me.
And being that.
But at the end of the day, I should never have that feeling anyway.
Right.
No one should have that feeling.
But only reason why I have that feeling because I know guns exist.
And if I have a gun on me, you can't say shit.
I don't give a fuck how much of you.
I'll shoot you bitch.
Shut the fuck up.
But now in
over those countries
it's all about brute strength.
Right.
It's knives
and you know what I'm saying?
The knives thing.
You gotta be rich
to have a gun.
Yeah.
And we over here
we got motherfucking
niggas over here
making 3D printed.
Yeah.
I can get a 3D printed
heater right now.
They're making ghost guns.
Shoot same way.
Yeah. But it makes sense they can 3D printer heater right now They're making ghost guns Shoot, same way Yeah But it makes sense
They can 3D print everything now
They make fake Rolexes
They make fake Rolexes
That are exactly the same as a Rolex
But you know what I'm saying?
They do that
There's like a whole market
They can make a gun easy
It's right because of anything
But a replica of a gun still kill you
Oh yeah
A replica of a Rolex No, it's a real gun it's a real gun so yeah they can and they can 3d print them
wasn't there a guy that like invented this shit a long time ago and there was like some big
controversy about it he was showing people how to 3d print guns like on youtube or something like
that no it's still going on i know i know i know I know but wasn't there a guy that was like one of the first guys that was censored off of
YouTube am I miss remembering this I may I may be I might be misremembered it but
I remember when that shit first started happening where they were making 3d
printed guns and people like this is insane like we have to stop this and
they're like well there's no law that can stop it it was like I guess it's state by state No, no, um, yeah
Go piss and come back
Danny Brown
Freshly drained
No, yeah, I'm a bad. No worries. i do it all the time i up coming here
too much water in me like no that's all it was i've been drinking no because i've been on this
um i wake up at like 5 00 a.m and i'm yeah no but i'm a sleeper yeah i'm already sleeping so it's
not like what happened was you know i talk about that on some workout i'm just actually
one of those guys that do that so then like I'm like man maybe I should take advantage of that shit yeah
so now I wake up at like 5 like yes I do I wake up at 5 because I never was like
a workout person and but now I can get so much shit done but my girl even work
up like 10 when 10 a.m. come is like oh my bitch you don't even know I'm dead
did I gotta watch the dogs and shit and
go to sleep and shit but yeah so so now i've been just taking advantage of being able to
wake up that early you wouldn't know but i think that's come from stress type shit yeah to be on
where you just don't feel good sleeping um just working on music i think because he oh i was just
talking about actually you know who was just here? Fucking Hannibal.
Hannibal was fucking here.
I was doing my fucking show.
I wish I would've fucking knew he was here.
Then he just showed up.
And I was like, man, you might as well come over here with us.
But he had to leave.
But no.
I forgot.
I forgot what that was.
But no, Hannibal.
No.
We were talking about.
Oh, no.
Oh, I was just telling him that I feel like when, you know, y'all as comedians and shit, y'all make specials.
It's like instant gratification and that shit.
Because y'all could do.
Y'all.
I mean, I know y'all worked on a special for years and years.
But then y'all actually do it in front of a live audience.
Even though the audience know it's a special.
I mean, it is what it is.
You know.
Have you thought about doing specials? I know you're doing a little stand upup no i'm not not at all i killed no now i mean i go on
there and i have fun and shit but but didn't you stand didn't you do like a minute on kill tony
no you never did nothing but um you only just sat as a guest yeah okay but now i'm starting to take
it serious because all y'all motherfuckers keep telling me I'm funny.
I know what it is.
It's Tony.
Tony was telling me that he's trying to get you to do it.
No, everybody keeps telling me that I'm funny.
And they're like, you can do it.
That's, I guess, what I'm talking about.
But, you know, the thing is that I'm a nerd about is the writing aspect of it.
Good.
So I love to write.
Even me writing songs.
Like, I always say this all the time.
Like, I probably, I don't know.
I mean, I'm better of a writer than I am a rapper.
You know what I'm saying?
Danny, you're a funny dude.
I mean.
You 100% could do stand-up.
You just like the way you approach music and the way you now have approached podcasting.
You could do stand-up.
No, no.
See, that's the thing about it.
Just the fact that someone like
you tell me someone like time hanging with tony so it's like i'll be a dickhead to not try you
have to try not to do you should do it the whole shit in the beginning was like man i bombed that
rap for like 20 years why would i want to stand on stage and try to tell jokes and buy me?
Go through that.
But then I actually started thinking about it, and I'm like, maybe this is like a second caller in my life.
I think it...
This is why I think it is.
On your show, you have hilarious stories, and you got a great way of telling them.
You just...
You have a great way of telling stories.
It's fun.
It's funny.
No, that's the thing that I love about doing it.
You can just translate... Because I'm having fun right now you can translate that to stand up
that's you watch Tim Dillon no I love Tim Dillon that's what Tim Dillon does
he does that rant on his show he's the best ranter alive he does these rants
and then he takes chunks those rants and they become bits like that's how you
come up with material it's like what you're doing is next to our neighbor to
stand up yeah see that's the thing too cuz you material. It's like what you're doing is next to our neighbor to stand on.
Yo, see, that's the thing, too.
Because you can't always be like, see, I was always that guy.
I was funnier.
You can be the funniest guy at the family reunion.
But that don't translate on stage.
But, Danny, you know how to be on stage.
See, you know how to be in front of the camera. See, you're saying it doesn't translate on stage.
No, no, no.
Even in front of the camera.
You're saying it doesn't translate on stage. No, no, no. Even in front of the camera. You're saying it doesn't translate on stage.
But that's just like your funny uncle who can't go on stage at an open mic night.
Because he's fucking nervous.
That's who I am.
But you're not that.
Because you're not nervous.
You're not nervous doing your podcast.
And you're not nervous when you're rapping.
No, I'm not.
So you're not nervous in front of people.
No.
But you tell stories in front of people in front of the camera.
And they're fucking hilarious.
You're not nervous doing that.
You're not.
It's not the same thing.
I think you know one thing
that I'm scared of
is that I respect comedy so much
and I know it's like,
it's almost gatekeepy.
It shouldn't be.
That's good.
But do you understand
what I'm saying?
I respect it,
but it's not really gatekeepy.
We let it,
we really do let it. Let's imagine, okay, let's say tomorrow, if I'm saying? You respect it, but it's not really gay comedy. Like, if I'm- We let it- We really do let it.
Let's imagine-
Okay, let's say tomorrow, if I'm just like super good with comedy, like, comedians will
hate me.
No, no, no.
The dumb ones.
And I want to be friends with people, too.
Listen, bro, they're not going to hate you.
The ones that are going to hate you are idiots.
Like, comedians-
The idiot comedians will hate you.
This is like Royal Rumble.
But if you're good, you're good, man.
Being a comedian is like being in a Royal Rumble.
Who don't throw each other off the first, you know what I'm saying?
Even now with podcasting, having a beef with another comedian, like driving you views.
So now I already see, nigga, before we know it, nigga, it's going to be like podcast, comedian beef.
It's going to be like rap songs and shit.
We one step away from that.
Yeah, well, that's always going to happen with some people.
Some people just love to get mad and talk shit about people.
It's like their favorite recreation.
But that's the way they get the views, and that's the way it drives shit.
But you don't have to participate in that.
No, no, no.
But what I'm saying about you.
I'm not going to participate in that because you're going to figure out if this Muay Thai works.
Nigga, come on some podcast talking shit about danny brown nigga i ain't coming back
on no podcast talking about you what i'm trying to say is there's you have zero fears about being
gatekeeped people are just going to want to see if you could do it i've been there go have fun
people already love you from your show they love you from your mom's house they love you when you
guest on kill tony you you you just do it, no, that's where I'm at now.
Because you got to think, that's a total 360 for my rap career.
It is and it isn't, man.
I don't even, Joe Rogan, I don't think you know.
It's your creativity.
It's your creativity.
It's your mind.
My rap career is a total different world than what this is.
Of course.
My rap career, I would say, what made that bad is that I started a little too old.
So I didn't really get recognition or, you know, until I was 30 years old.
And you got to think, I've been trying to do this my entire 20s.
So when I started to be a rapper, get recognition for it, I had a bitter attitude towards it. You get what I'm saying? Because it took so recognition for it and being that i i had a bitter attitude towards it you
know what i'm saying because it took so long for it to happen that happens and then now i'm 30
years old it's a 30 year old rapper it's like how the the it's like a ticking time bomb at that
point like how much time you got really so i'm already in my head. Like, I will say, a lot of people say, like, being a rapper is dangerous, like, you know, because all the killings and shit.
But I would say being a rapper is dangerous in the sense because once you do it, you can't do nothing else.
It ruins you.
How so?
So let's just say, okay, let's just say I was a rapper and then it failed.
Then I got to go get a normal job.
But I had minimal success.
You saw my video somewhere.
I had a couple views.
Now I'm working at a job with you.
Now you're like, oh, you, blah, blah.
So that, everywhere you go, somebody, you.
That's true if you're an actor, too.
So you always recognize.
That's true if you're an actor too So you're always getting acknowledged
For your failures
But that's true with anybody in the public eye
So just imagine, every time someone
Recognizes you, they're acknowledging
Your failure
That hurts
It hurts
Of course it does
But that's what happens
In all walks of life.
Anytime when you fail and people get to shit on you,
and if you're a public person.
If you work fries at McDonald's, no one cares.
Don't you remember Gary Coleman?
Gary Coleman from Different Strokes?
He started working as a security guard,
and people would just shit on him relentlessly.
Imagine that.
Because if he was just a security guard, no one would care.
You would never walk up to a security guard and go look at this loser you're a security guard
that's exactly what i'm saying so it's the same thing with actors so me being danny brown i can't
never go back to being i can never go back to being daniel danny you don't have to first of all
and don't and don't even think about it don't even think about it you don't have to you're never
gonna have to do that I know what you're saying
But you can't think about
Like worst case scenario
And dwell on it like that
You are of personality
And a personality can do
Anything it wants to do
You're a fun guy
I think about that
And I love that too
Because you gotta think
The last album I put out
Was 2019
Yeah you were saying that And that was You're touring infrequently And I love that too. Because you got to think, the last album I put out was 2019.
Yeah, you were saying that.
And that was... You're touring infrequently.
No, I worked on that album with Q-Tip.
Just to be able to work with Q-Tip was such a fucking big deal to me.
For sure.
And, you know, it gave me confidence in my music.
To be in the fact that A Tribe called quest was my dad's favorite rap group
i remember going my dad taking me to fucking preschool i mean i'm preschool it wasn't that
early but whatever whatever but elementary school my dad taking me to school and he listening to a
tribe called class and before i know it one day i'm sitting in the studio with q-tip every day
working on an album.
So it was fucking, it was a big deal.
You know what I'm saying?
It was a big deal for me. And, you know, we made that album.
And I just think the world of music have changed so much.
Where like a 10 second TikTok beat means way more
than you putting out a single
you understand what I'm saying?
like that whole shit changed
so the way I grew up
the way I grew up like me
my favorite rapper is Nas
and Nas just put out a new album
and that album is fucking amazing
and you know why that album is amazing?
It's because Nas is having fucking fun.
And Nas is able to make music without any fucking...
You gotta think...
Well, Nas is really rich.
Like, he's got a bunch of different businesses.
It wasn't always like that, though.
No, but I'm saying, like, right now, if he's doing rap right now, it's because he wants to do it.
Yes, but it wasn't always like that.
He had the whole situation of what he went through
oh yeah
with his divorces
yeah yeah yeah
it was all public
yes
he's the best lyricist ever
in my opinion
he's
his fucking shit
is so complicated
the way he does things
backwards
what's that one song
where he does backwards
rewind
that's a brilliant song
you wanna have this
bro
we don't wanna talk about this
just for me
Nas is like and I've had the opportunity to meet Nas That's a brilliant song. You want to have this coming? Bro, we don't want to talk about this. Just for me.
Nas is like... And I've had the opportunity to meet Nas a lot.
I wouldn't say a lot, but he knows what he means to me.
You get what I'm saying?
Yes.
Actually, he wanted to sign me to his label.
I didn't sign to him because I mean whatever I mean money man
money money the other contract was more money man I can that's what it is but sometimes I think
about that did I make a mistake but like damn just because the artist that I looked up to my
entire life that made me be a rapper tried to sign me.
And I didn't sign with them.
All because of money.
And now, I'm not saying I feel any way about being with Warp.
I love Warp.
Warp is, you know, they've done.
Part two, Warp has made me a better artist than what I actually am.
How's that?
Because like, OK, this even like the album that I just I made album during COVID.
Obviously, we were sitting around when nobody could do nothing.
And I just felt like, oh, shit.
So I just started going to the studio and just started recording songs, making music, record album.
And this is the album that we're going to release but the album been done for like three years
like you know and well what's been the hold up
you don't know so so on them that's what happened when you signed the record labels oh jesus bro
you want to hear bro all right you want to hear it? Bro.
All right, you want to hear it?
All right, let me give you my rundown story.
Three years?
I might need another drink.
I think you need another drink.
I might need another drink, yeah.
All right, so check this out.
Denny Brown.
Being a regular rapper from Detroit, whatever.
All right, whatever.
Cheers, sir.
Thank you.
Cheers.
I'm not even going to go into Tony Ayo and G on it or all that shit.
Just to get to the point.
So I remember being at a festival in New York at the time.
It was called CMJ Festival, which was like cool.
It was like, you know, same thing as South by Southwest, but it's in Texas.
That's what it was for New York. they had this festival cmj festival and at one of these shows they had um at brooklyn bowl fools go records through a show and kanye showed up and it shut
the whole down like and i couldn't go i couldn't get in i was like and to me i was like
man fools go records like man they like the illest shit like if i could ever be cool with fools go
records like uh whatever i can do to be down with fools go records i would do you know what i'm
saying type of shit so then shit goes on years i end up I ended up getting in a situation.
I started talking to Foosgoat.
And I don't think they were really into signing me at the time.
But Q-Tip from A Tribe Called Quest was real close with A-Track,
who's one of the owners of Foosgoat.
And they hung out and
A-Track was like, man, we thinking about signing
Denny Brown. And Q-Tip
was like, nigga, thinking?
Are you retarded?
Like, this is one of the illest
things. He broke it down to him like,
what makes me so ill?
Which I can, we can talk after. That has to be nice.
No, I'm literally like
super ill. Like, when it comes to like rap, like it's like cheating.
Like I'm like steroid.
Like it's super ill.
Like I can cheat.
Like it's super ill.
So then he was like, fuck it.
Yeah, I'm going to sign it.
Because so then I already knew I was going to get signed to Fool's Go.
We already had this to each other.
So there's no negotiation on what the shit was.
So I was going to interviews already.
Like I would do an interview and they'd be like, what's going to happen?
And I'd be like, oh, I'm signing to Foosgoat.
So, boom, to say that, we signed a contract.
I signed for $5,000.
Literally, $5,000.
And it was South by Southwest happening the next week.
And I had like two shows.
So I literally spent the entire signing bonus at South by Southwest the next week.
So I had no money.
Super broke.
Whatever the fuck.
I'm living off my girl.
You know what I'm saying?
Like her banking on me making it as a rapper kind of situation. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. banking on me making it as a rapper kind of situation.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
We do whatever we do.
We get that.
But then the album comes out.
And at the time, no one really thought about the album.
I would think no one.
I did.
But at that time, no one thought that the album would be like a big deal.
End up the album come out
at one fucking
album of the year
in Spin Magazine
it
end up being
one of the best albums
I ever had in my career
but when you think about it
it's like a person
back against the wall
when you listen to the album
I'm back against the wall
right
and
the whole concept
of the album is
you know rap music is all about being young 20 year olds the whole album Right And The whole concept of the album is You know
Rap music is all about being young
20 year olds
The whole album
The album is called 30
This is an album about a
30 year old rapper
Just now starting to get a break
And how he feels
You know
Yeah
So yeah
And
The album did good
It did good
Congratulations It did good It did good. Congratulations.
It did good.
It did good.
I'm saying not like sales-wise or anything like that, but culturally.
It did good.
It got recognition.
So I was able to get a lot of shit from that.
And, you know, I got a lot of deals and signed a lot of shit.
And then my next album after that was old.
It was called old. But that charted Billboard. signed a lot of shit and then my next album after that was Old it's called Old and
but that charted
Billboard
but it was a lot of money
like
I spent
like it was a lot of money
spent in that
I say that to say this
okay
as me
as
a kid
from Detroit
got good at rap
alright
I know how to rap
a record label
signs me I rap for a record label signs me
I rap for this record label make album in my head as when you start to make
music you want to be as experimental and to be us much as point you don't
understand is the thing called music business. So you're not thinking
about business.
You're just thinking about art.
I'm just trying to make
the best,
me,
Illmatic was the
greatest album
I ever heard in my life.
So to me,
it's like Illmatic
and other one is
Cannibal Wags,
Covang.
Like,
so to me,
it's like,
I'm trying to make albums
to mirror those.
I'm just trying to like,
as me as a rapper, as an artist or a musician,
just trying to, shit that I was influenced by,
try to make a piece of art that could stand next to that.
You know what I'm saying?
But at this point in life, that shit don't matter no more
because there's too much money to be made behind this shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So I didn't care about this shit and then now
so do you think that by trying to make something that stands next to that somehow or another you'll
lose money definitely how come because time change time changes how the shit that we liked in 1994
we don't like it in 2004. I still do.
I think there's a lot of people that still do.
But we got to think about the kids.
Dude, I still listen to Cool G rap.
Have you listened to Playboi Carti?
No.
See?
Well, I don't listen to anything.
Playboi Carti.
I can't know everything.
I don't have enough time.
Bro, Playboi Carti can shut down this whole shit.
I'm being honest with you.
Can we play some of it?
Can we play some of it?
We can play some of it, right?
You probably.
What?
Which?
No.
No?
No.
Why?
Just some.
See, look, I'm going to be a hater now by saying no.
But no.
No.
No.
We're not going to play no playbook.
Why?
Because this is my Joe Rogan interview.
Okay.
I don't know about the fucking game playbook. Why? Because this is my Joe Rogan interview. Okay. Let him know about the fucking game of playbook.
It's not going to hurt you if he gets a little love.
All right.
You just gave him some.
Playboy Cardi does not need no love.
I'll tell you.
We'll play that.
We'll play a little of that just to educate me and educate the people that are listening.
And then we'll play.
Play Playboy Cardi.
Give me a Danny Brown track.
No.
Give me a Danny Brown track that you give me a danny brown track that
you like i definitely don't want to hear your mind after this play playboy cardi stop breathing
bro you don't get it i don't get it help me out my music is like stand-up comedy in essence oh
you want to hear some of my uh stand-up comedy rap sure we'll do that we'll do that we'll have
the uh bitch only thing you gotta know
my dick touch the ground when i'm sitting i'm gonna flow see that's the thing about rap like
um you know me i was into comedy and so i took my whole shit from comedy the way i were wrapped
so what i would do i would just sit around and write punch lines all the time
so i write punchlines all the time.
I write punchlines.
Think about this.
Look, I'm about to give y'all niggas the game.
It's 16 bars of verse.
It's four lines, four verse.
Let's just say if I sit around, I listen to a Joe Rogan episode.
Someone says an ill punchline on there.
Uncle Joey, he might say some crazy shit like you get what i'm saying
just some crazy shit a line just one line i can take that one line it's four it's 16 bars so one
line could create four bars so every line i get four bars so i need four lines to give me a 16 16. Hmm. Yeah. I don't know. No.
The first time I ever did coke was Coachella.
How long ago?
What Coachella was this?
I mean, it had to be a long-ass Coachella.
What was it?
And guess what?
It wasn't by, I didn't ask for it.
It was, what happened was, okay.
At this time, listen.
At this time, I was dating a girl.
And she was bi.
So she wanted to have a girlfriend.
She's like, pick my girlfriend type shit.
So I found her girlfriend, and I found her, and it was the type of bitch.
They loved each other.
They kicked with each other.
They went on fucking vacations and all type of shit.
They did all type of shit together.
And then I'm playing Coachella.
And it's a good time but the bitch that's my girl partner is that coachella i don't know i didn't know that
my girl hit me up like oh she in the crowd boom boom me being a real nigga i thought i'd do myself
like fuck it i just bust out i just bust into the crowd try to look
for finder give me her number but i'm walking through the crowd like a normal person like
trying to find finds her we kicking it we went to watch sufian stevens you know sufian stevens
oh man so good carolyn loyal oh man whatever whatever went to go watch sufian stevens and Le'Veon Stevens. Oh, man. So good. Carolyn Loyal. Oh, man.
Whatever.
Whatever.
Went to go watch
Le'Veon Stevens
and I guess
because of who I am,
she just thought
I did coke before.
But I never did coke.
And she just was like,
ugh.
She already had it
and just hit me.
Wow.
So, she's just
in my nose already.
And she's like,
oh, yeah, man.
I was just like, uh.
How was it?
It's the best time I've ever had in my life.
What are you talking about?
I've never done it.
Dude, I avoid Coke.
That's sad.
It's not sad.
It is.
Maybe it is sad.
It is.
But it's not sad to me because I've avoided it successfully.
I mean, you can have done everything you've done already and still experience that. sad it is maybe it is sad it's not sad to me because i've avoided it successfully i mean you
can done everything you've done already and still experience that when i was in high school i had a
very good friend his cousin i get it his cousin sold coke and his cousin like wrecked his life
with coke i watched this dude become a vampire i get it but you could have did it and still be who
you are right now maybe nothing maybe what do you mean you you're gonna get it and still be who you are right now. Maybe. Nothing? Maybe? What do you mean? You're going to get lit and jump with the coke?
I don't know if drugs that make you more confident are good for me.
I like drugs that make you less confident.
That might be some shit.
I like drugs that make you feel vulnerable.
That might be some shit because that's all I like.
I like drugs that make you feel vulnerable and give you more of a sense of community.
With the DMT and the mushrooms?
I like mushrooms and I really like marijuana.
Even that, I did so many mushrooms.
All right, even this, okay.
But you know what I'm saying about drugs that make you confident?
Yes.
So I did.
So I did the whole
whatever
hit me up
about the
mushrooms
and like whatever
so I bought
a quarter pound
of mushrooms
Jesus
don't tell the people
that's a lot
I did it in like
a month
that's a good
amount of time
it probably changed
a lot
at the end of that month
it may be worse
worse how so cuz I don't
know it's just me taking the mushrooms I mean I did it bra I did a lot I tried out because I make
you worse because I was clean at that time you know everybody talk about how mushrooms could
keep you from drinking it when I started doing mushrooms, for some reason, it made me tell me that drinking wasn't bad.
Like, you can drink.
You can handle it.
Then I started drinking.
Then I started drinking.
Then they said, I know.
I'm doing coke again.
I'm doing, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So I blame it all on mushrooms.
Because I was clean as fuck before I started doing the mushrooms.
For how long?
Months.
Like two months.
Two months is my limit.
After eight weeks then it's fucked up. There's a
thing that does happen when you do mushrooms.
It alleviates some of your anxiety.
And maybe some people
have some anxiety about addictions.
Like maybe they're not over it and they still have anxiety about it and mushrooms
Alleviate that anxiety sometimes but what is an addiction man?
Like what would make you want to drink or make you want it like it's a weird thing that no
To me all right, and I can say that for my I don't know of any people
Addiction for me is an escape.
I've been through so much in my life, and even this and that, like even now, like my fucking aunt passed.
And it is what it is, like man, I will say, man, like that's what I try to tell you about me and my music career.
Because it's like my family, they look at me like I'm the richest motherfucker in the world.
And if I can tell them that,
no. Have you ever heard
a Danny Brown song on the radio?
Have you ever seen
a... No!
But to them, you gotta think.
Detroit. Just the fact
that I've made it in music and I'm someone
this and that
I should be
I
And I don't
I don't have it
I can be the first person to take
Like
Music
Put me more into debt
Than if I didn't do it
Do you get what I'm saying?
Yes
Like so
My first
Album that I had Well not, my first album that I had, well, not saying my first album, but with Triple X.
With Triple X, they're good, and they gave all these people, boom, boom, these artists, they're good.
And then I did Old, Old They're Good, did that, boom, boom, boom.
They charted Billboard, boom, boom, boom.
So, now I was a free agent at that point.
So, now I had these record labels, all of them courting me.
I signed to Warp.
Warp gave me a fucking damn near quarter million dollar fucking budget to make an album.
What do you think I did?
Spent it all?
Spent every last.
Nigga, before you know it, I was asking for more money.
nigga before you know it I was asking for more money
so I went crazy
made a fucking
quarter million
whatever the fuck
spent all the money
I could possibly spend
on this fucking album
to make
the best pop album
that I make
and
now this album
has been made
I'm not
I don't feel bad about it
have you
that's great
when you
when you get a spare time
to yourself
fuck yeah
atrocity exhibition
it's
can I play it right now
no that's the
Jonah Hill
he shot one of the videos
oh he made a music video for it
yeah
really
Jonah Hill yeah
he shot the video for the second single, Ain't It Funny.
I talk about that all the time.
Even shooting that video was such a fucking crazy situation.
So was Jonah Hill the director of it?
Mm-hmm.
That's amazing.
Nigga, he was the budgeter.
No one wanted to shoot.
Can we play it?
Oh.
Here?
All right, go live.
Physical attention from older men makes me feel validated.
I'm empty inside.
Oh, Uncle Danny.
Gus Van Zandt, nigga!
Look. She just did the Kevin Hart commercial
When you ever seen the rap video look like this How did they get Gus Van Zant though?
I'm smoking meth. Danny, I love it. No
Daniel lovers Ain't it funny how it happens? Ain't it, ain't it, ain't it funny how it happens? Ain't it, ain't it, ain't it funny how it happens? Ain't it, ain't it, ain't it funny how it happens?
Ain't it, ain't it, ain't it
Ain't it, ain't it, ain't it
Ain't it, ain't it, ain't it
Danny, look down from there.
Why are you doing this, Danny?
I've been destroyed.
And if I'm destroyed, maybe I'll feel okay.
None of us feel okay.
Oh, Uncle Danny.
Jesus Christ, Dan.
That shit is amazing. So, yeah. That's amazing. That shit is amazing.
So, yeah.
That's amazing.
That's really good.
I've been doing cool shit.
That is so...
What year was this?
2019.
Yeah, don't show anybody this, bro.
18, 17.
It's amazing.
But no, that's the thing.
So, being a musician, being a rapper...
Well, it's not just that.
It's like all the visuals.
I mean, it's very disturbing and very crazy and very funny. But being artistic,, being a rapper. Well, it's not just that. It's like all the visuals. I mean, it's very disturbing and very crazy and very funny.
But being artistically, but that's artistic freedom.
But you don't get props like that no more for that kind of shit.
You're gonna.
Trust me.
It's really good.
When I'm dead?
No, man.
Does that count?
Tell me you haven't gotten more people paying attention to your music now that started doing podcasts fuck no no fuck no no let's see what happens after this one all right
let me know what happens after this one i don't know i don't know it's not i don't see so would
you know like would you know in terms of like streamings and downloads no yeah yeah definitely
because i'm super on it but no the thing is about is that um, I
Just don't judge it like that I look at it like what I've done good
To what you think like that's good. I like that. No, that was amazing. Yes. No, I'm
Super proud of that good beautiful. So now is what I'm doing next. There's I'm trying to tell you like the new album that I have
Beautiful.
So now it's what I'm doing next.
This is what I'm trying to tell you.
Like, the new album that I have.
I'm going to talk about it.
This is going to happen.
Look.
It's called Cuaranta.
What does that mean?
40.
Oh.
In Spanish.
That album you listened to was Triple X.
30.
30. Yeah. So, Cu Triple X. 30. 30.
Yeah.
So, Cuaranta.
I like it.
Oh, it's so good.
Yeah?
It's so good.
What is it coming out? I listen to that album every...
Oh, I don't know.
Hopefully this Joe Rogan episode...
Hopefully.
...makes it happen faster.
Why have they been holding on to it?
What's the hold up there's
no discussion i don't know you haven't gotten any response have you had a conversation about
see how it happens being oh no so that's what is it so you know what it made me independent now
you know what it made me you know what it made me feel like it made me feel like maybe they're
not happy with the album so So I should make more songs.
So I've been making songs and constantly making songs
for like the past two, three years.
And now I get the actual final track list
and what the album is going to be.
And it's, bro, it's nothing.
I've been wasting my time making all these new songs.
And it's new songs that I love, i want to you know to be out on
this but it is what it's but when i do listen to the album that they picked and they i realize why
they are a record company and this is their job you know and you think they did a good job oh
amazing job well that's beautiful sometimes you Well, that's beautiful. Sometimes you need an editor, right? No.
Exactly.
Yeah, you need someone else to look at it.
Exactly.
Because I'm not about to even talk shit about them and be bad about it because they do.
Yeah.
Hey, we're Apex twins, man.
Apex twins, bro.
Yeah, you need it.
Everybody needs an editor.
The thing about comedy is it's beautiful because the audience is your fuck music man i'm trying to be with your niggas man
for real well listen daddy you're already doing it you're doing your podcast i need a tight five
minutes you could do five minutes easy you want to do five minutes tonight what you got something
for me yeah i'm at the creek in the cave yeah Yeah. Okay. You think I'm joking? No, I don't think you're joking. No, I'm not joking either. I'm not joking. Don't play me, bro. Danny, look at me. Don't look like I'm joking. I mean, this will be testing to make me do it. Yeah, let's do it. Five minutes. Not hard at all, man. You'll get killed. We'll talk about it afterwards. If you got some ideas, you want to bounce around. 100% you should do it yeah let's do it five minutes not hard at all man you kill we'll talk about it afterwards
if you got some ideas you want to bounce around 100 you should do it i don't even matter you do
it bombing don't even matter you're not gonna bomb you're funny you're a funny dude man it's a matter
of finding out how to do that on stage and i don't think it's a long journey for you i think for some
people it's a long fucking journey there's some people that are like quiet you know i think the
only thing that probably
May get shorter because I've been rapping
You've been rapping
You've been performing on stage
And you've also been doing a podcast where you're funny
That fucking podcast is hilarious
You going to Creaking Crave tonight?
Tonight
I'm pulling up
That's right
Let's go Danny Brown
If you're gonna impress me like that I will
100% you're gonna do it tonight
Five minutes?
Yeah, five minutes.
You're going to have fun.
It's going to be beautiful.
I'll put you in a good spot.
I'm just going to think of what I've got.
All right, what time is it?
No, for real.
Yeah, we're good, dude.
Don't worry about it.
It's 3.13 now.
The show tonight is at 8 o'clock.
Danny Brown, we're going to have some fun. I'm going to try it. You should about it. It's 3.13 now. The show tonight is at 8 o'clock. Danny Brown, we're going to have some fun.
I want to try it.
You should try it.
You know, it's a thing that you do.
You get your feet wet, and then you're going to want to be really good at it.
I've done it.
You're going to get obsessed at it.
I already did it.
I've been there.
I know how to talk on stage, and I just don't have a routine.
Yeah.
Well, like I said, five minutes is not that long.
I just need one subject.
Yeah, but if I can get my five minutes.
You can get your five minutes.
You can do it.
I'm coming tonight.
You're all serious now.
Look at you.
This shit is serious to me, bro.
I get it. Serious right even you all right uh
i did my rap shit just being a rapper and so much and being a rapper but i remember as a time and
being a rapper and like um when they when your teacher asks you what you want to be when you
grow up and i would say being a rapper and everybody would laugh at me and then so it got
to the point i'd be like i didn't say a rapper no more i said a comedian i'm like i want to be when you grow up. And I would say it being a rapper, and everybody would laugh at me. And then it still got to the point where I'd be like,
I didn't say I'm a rapper no more.
I said a comedian.
I'm like, I want to be a comedian.
You know what you are, Danny?
You're Danny Brown.
It doesn't mean shit what label they put on what you do.
You could do anything you want.
You could do music.
You could write a fucking book.
You could do podcasts.
No, that's actually what I'm doing.
Thank you for saying that. So I'm working on a book right now um i wish i could say you don't have to say it
but you're professionally danny brown that's what you are that's what i do that's my job i'm
professionally joe rogan that's why i have shut the fuck up and let it rock. Yes.
Be Danny Brown.
Be Danny Brown.
Just shut the fuck up and let it rock.
Be Danny Brown.
No.
Don't worry about labels. No.
Fuck all those labels.
Fuck that.
Let all those other idiots sort that shit out.
He's a rapper.
But now he's a comedian.
No.
Get the fuck out of here.
You want to hear that?
You want to hear some real shit about that though?
Yeah.
That was another thing about that though.
Where me being in it and I feel like a lot of, they didn't fuck with that shit.
Comedians.
Yeah.
I'm telling you, they're not good.
They don't.
The ones that are good don't think like that.
I just told these niggas, bro, to me in my head, comedians, everything with that shit
is Royal Rumble.
It's Royal Rumble.
Yeah.
It is a little Royal Rumble, but it doesn't have to be.
Like, the guys
The top level
And especially
If you're not in that
Mix
A person like me
So me
A rapper
They don't wanna help me
Or do anything
Everybody hates me
But comedians don't
No
That's what I'm talking about
Yeah we don't do that
We help each other
No I'm saying
I got my friends
Like I got
Tony
David
Like you know You know Tom I mean that's my I work for them niggas So I don't do that we help each other i got my friends like i got tony david like you don't sound like
this um you know time i mean that's my i work for them niggas so i don't even i don't even look at
them as friends no more you gotta look at him as friends he loves you no no no no and that's my
big homie i tell you when i called him up and i told him how much i like your show he's like he's
so funny i'm like dude it's it's such a surprise show like i enjoy your show a lot it makes me laugh do you want to
hear about my show that's the thing that i want to keep it i don't want to get it to the point
where i feel like it's overproduced well you don't have to this isn't overproduced
there's one guy in here and all he does is press buttons and pull shit up and give his opinions
all right and mostly but in our heads in. But in our heads, in our world,
in our world of
outside looking in,
we look at this shit
as like the biggest
produced podcast.
Yeah, but it's not.
It's the biggest
skeleton crew.
I go to places
and there's like
fucking 10 dudes
behind a glass wall
fake laughing
and pressing buttons
and shit.
It's terrible.
Fucking terrible.
No, I'm not.
No, because you made it
You said it
This is literally what it is
Yeah
This is it
But this is what it's supposed to be
But that's what I was telling you about
You could do your show
On FaceTime
You could just point
Your fucking camera at you
It doesn't matter
No no but
It's what you say
It's who you are
And what you say
No no no
But I still
I owe something to time
Oh yeah for sure
No they're amazing I don't wanna make no moves Without them You know what you say. No, no, no, but I still owe something to time. Oh, yeah, for sure. No, they're amazing.
I don't want to make no moves without them.
You know what I'm saying?
No, you shouldn't.
And they'll be with you 100%.
So if I wanted to do something outside of that,
then I would want them to still be involved in it.
If you were doing something with some, like,
fucking fake podcast network, you know?
What do you mean a fake podcast network?
I'm with the real shit.
I know, you are.
You are.
Which is what I'm saying is great.
But if you were with a-
They're like, there's some networks out there-
Why?
Why do I need to be with any of that?
I'm not saying you, man.
What I'm trying to say is your situation's amazing.
But there's other people out there
that get into a bad situation.
And they get locked into these companies
and they find out these companies
own 50% of their podcasts forever and like what the fuck like with no
investment like there was a lot of shady people that got involved in podcasting
when I never I never looked at podcast for like a money type of situation well
the problem is right now I see that now, I see that, yeah.
Some companies do.
No, now there's a lot of money involved in this shit,
but I just...
Because I feel like me showing up like me right now,
talking to you, I would do this for free.
I would do it for free, too.
That's the beauty of doing a podcast.
So I feel bad that someone would would pay the problem with these like
what i'm saying about these podcast networks is they're not really providing anything if a pot
i mean they might be providing production they might be providing a studio but without content
they don't have anything and if they're taking half of it and you're creating the content which
can happen that's a crazy deal and then they own it forever yeah that's our whole tip is forever forever get the fuck out of here and i've seen
those deals before and i've also seen a lot of comics when they're getting signed to like agents
and like kind of shitty manager types the manager type will try to take a percentage of the podcast
too so they own a piece of your shit as long as you're doing it. So that was the whole shit that I'm trying to tell you.
Like me doing what...
So doing it at your mom's house is perfect.
No, no time.
He told me like, he like hit me up like,
you got the talent to do like a podcast.
But I'm like, if I would have did it on my own,
I wouldn't be talking to you right now.
You might be.
But the point is you haven't.
You did it with them, which is perfect
because they'll support you 100%. I moved to i know i see like i was serious about this shit
yeah it's beautiful that's a good situation bro but tom's like tom and christina are beautiful
people bro they're the best what are you talking about about? I wouldn't have did it if it wasn't them.
Yeah.
And their situation, like having that studio, it's all so professional.
All the people that work there are funny.
A lot of funny employees, too, man.
They're hilarious.
Zolo, Sasa.
Oh, no, I got all of them in the Muay Thai gym.
Oh, really?
Zolo, Chad.
All of them.
See, now I can't.
Oh, man.
I feel bad because I got them all signed up to the Muay Thai gym.
Now I'm about to switch gyms.
Maybe they'll listen to this and take you back.
No, I already told them why I'm switching gyms.
I already told them.
For disparaging your shorts.
No, we already told them.
We already told them about why I'm switching gyms.
Part two.
They're happy with the gym.
They're going to settle.
But, I mean, I'm going to Tim Planet
Okay
You should learn some Jiu Jitsu
I know
Just do Jiu Jitsu
Only thing I have
I have a
I have a bad feeling of Jiu Jitsu
Bad
Yeah
How come?
Cause I was with a girl
I was with her
we was together
for years and shit
and I used to go on
tours for like
months
it'd be months
and I had like
an ill ass
big ass house
in Michigan and shit
and I used to
feel sad about her
like she be in this house
she be by herself
shit is kinda not
safe
I put her in
Muay Thai class not Muay Thai Jiu Jitsu I put her in Muay Thai class
Not Muay Thai, Jiu Jitsu
I put her in Jiu Jitsu
She start going to Jiu Jitsu, she got good at Jiu Jitsu
So this maybe a year
Go by, boom
This bitch looking at me crazy
Like I can't even talk to her
Every time I'm done, it's like
She muscle flexing
Like, she got So now I'm done, it's like, ugh. She muscle flexing.
She got that.
So now I'm living in a house with this bitch that I'm putting in jujitsu class that look at me every day like, I could beat this nigga up.
Like, why?
She don't have no, you know what I'm saying?
She don't even care nothing about what I talk about.
So whatever.
I did that.
I mean, whatever'm willing to what
we went through and it got to the point it got so far to the point she got so
far to jujitsu she was teaching a kids class really well she's busy got a
six-pack ripped and guess who her boyfriend is? It's Danny Brown.
She come home every night.
So I think,
I think that's what ruined our relationship.
Because it was me.
So she come home and look at me,
and I'm like,
damn,
you fucking them G2 niggas,
bitch.
What you doing?
You sit a muscle bound ass niggas at class and shit.
You come back to the crib with me,
I'm a regular nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
So, yeah.
But we split up and that happened.
Yeah,
it could be
an uncomfortable situation
if you date
in a woman
that could kill you.
Yeah.
And I think
that's what happened.
Because there'd be times
where we're having
a little conversation
and I could just see her.
She's funny.
She's like,
nigga,
I could whoop your ass,
my nigga.
Like,
why you?
And you know what it was?
I put her in jujitsu, on some shit, being in Michigan and in Detroit.
And at the time, like, you know what's happening with L.A. too,
where all the people are fucking robbing, like,
when they see, like, celebrities, he's not at the crib.
Like, I don't know if you know but like last week nas we
talking shit about now yeah they broke in nas crib so they look at and they see when you have to do
shit and you're not home they're breaking so in la is like there's a thing and
i'm shush up nigga I'm Danny Brown
so I know
I got
I got tabs
and all that
so yeah
they break it
in every nigga house bro
I'm telling you
if you got a house
in LA
yeah they gonna
LA's a wild spot now
it's crazy
how quick that swing
I feel sad
cause my
my little homie
Zalupris, my group,
now he just moved to LA.
And he's been out there for a few months.
And he's been doing his thing.
He's been getting work.
He just was in the last Da Fushi video, shit like that.
You know, so I can't.
It's one of those type of situations where I can't tell him,
you shouldn't be out there.
Because he's getting work out there.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's dangerous, man.
It's not the same LA.
Oh.
Yeah.
It's a lot different.
Didn't Denise Richards' car got shot?
Shot?
Some road rage incident.
Someone shot at Denise Richards' car car but what she do though what she do though i mean you said a road rage accident
yeah what did you do did she cut him off like that like what'd she do though i think it was
like suv and they got out of the car i don that someone had shot the back of their car. See what that is? Denise Richard,
but what's the other,
see her and the other bitch
that finessed the shit
on the college,
the college tuitions.
Oh, she wasn't involved in that.
I know what you're talking about.
You talking about that,
the scam where they were
getting their kids into college.
Denise Richard,
but what was the other bitch?
I don't know.
See, that's how you know black people are racist too.
Look at this.
Pfeiffer's was chauffeuring the actress 51 to a film studio when the male driver behind them got irritated that we're having a hard time finding the place, TMZ reported.
TMZ reported the outlet claimed that Pfeiffer's left let the upset driver, who was allegedly shouting at them while trying to squeeze in front of the car, pass them.
That's when the driver allegedly shot at Pfeiffer's and Richard's vehicle,
striking the back end of the driver's side.
TMZ obtained a photo of the bullet hole.
Hold up. Go back up. Don't try to finesse that.
Go back up.
Denise Richard's husband shoots a lot of her OnlyFans content.
He knows what guys like.
Do you think?
That's what I saw.
I didn't see nothing else.
What you talking about niggas shooting?
Right.
Only thing I saw was Denise Richard's husband shoots a lot of her OnlyFans content.
He knows what guys like.
Yeah.
You think it's a scam?
It could be a scam.
No rest.
They don't have photos of anybody.
Did they have a description of the vehicle?
Bring all their attention to the OnlyFans.
Yeah.
Damn it.
We got sucked into it Danny Brown
I'm not
I'm not bro
I'm not that nigga
but we pulled it up
bro
I'm not that
bro
I swear to god
I see what's going on
that makes sense
when you get into that world
of taking photos
only thing I watch on YouTube
is wave
wave 360 tutorials
it says the outlet know that Pfeiffer's 50 stayed with the Real Housewives alum as she powered through and worked for 12 hours.
For now.
What?
Worked for 12 hours doing the OnlyFans stuff?
See, this is the shit that fucks me up.
Is that what you're saying?
See, Joe, this is the shit that fucks me up.
Did I know?
Because we don't, I don't think about this shit.
But this shit is a lot of money involved.
Yes, there is.
Danny, I got to pee.
We'll be right back.
All right.
Danny Brown, ladies and gentlemen.
Five minutes tonight.
Five minutes?
Oh.
Don't forget.
You going to make me do it?
No.
No, definitely not going to make you do it.
No, not make me do it, but.
If you want to do it, you definitely can do it. Where are we are we going creek in the cave are you going to creek in the cave tonight
for real no i'm saying yes for real who gonna be there um tonight duncan trussell
tony he lives here yeah duncan lives here dun Duncan lives here now. You should do his podcast. No, he need to do my podcast.
He should do yours too.
They made a clip of Duncan and I, all the different costumes we've worn.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to come.
You're not going to lie?
No, I'm not going to come.
Why?
If you put me in the hair.
No, I'm not going to put you in the hair.
You should just come. It'd be fun. Why? If you put me in the hair... No, I'm not going to put you in the hair. The hair...
Just come.
It'd be fun.
Danny, that feeling is the...
You know, when I first got on stage,
I almost didn't.
No, see, see, this is the difference.
You already said it.
Why?
It's no big deal about me getting on stage.
I can get on stage and talk shit,
but whatever the fuck.
But the thing is,
the friend group that i'm starting
like i don't want to disappoint y'all you're not gonna disappoint us no one gives a shit it'd be
funny i'd rather bomb i'd rather bomb and like be trash in my own presence and not around y'all
it'll be funny if you bomb come on
No, it has See, that's what y'all wanna see
No, Danny, I wanna see you kill
Me bombing
Dude, I think you'll be funny
I think you'll enjoy it
I think it'll be surprisingly fun for you
You know what's fucked up, though?
About comedy?
What?
Nigga, five minutes is 30 minutes
Five minutes is a long time
Bro, I did it
I did it with Hannibal
No, you know what's fucked up?
Hannibal been hitting me up all week.
Actually, that was the first person that actually ever told me that I could ever do something in comedy.
Now I used to be, you know, my rap shit and do whatever.
And I would do festivals.
And out of nowhere, Hannibal Buress would just show up backstage.
So this ended up being my friend.
Like, boom, whatever, Hannibal always show up.
He's my friend.
But one day I was backstage, and I was just talking shit.
And I was talking about, you play Mario Brothers, right?
Yeah, I have.
Yeah, Mario Brothers.
And I was just like Mario's like
a home invasion rapist he's a plumber why is he kicking in castle doors down
still in princesses when did you know princess had anything to deal with
plumbers and then you remember back in our day
it was his name was king cooper really you remember king cooper mario brothers was king cooper
the actual boss was king cooper oh i never got that far but that's what i'm trying to tell you
it got so weird that they had to change his name to be Bowser.
He's Bowser now.
Bowser.
Because they don't want to make you feel like.
Think about it.
Why is a plumber kicking in doors to castles? You got to think.
If you play Mario Brothers 3, you kill every kid he has.
You just kicking doors, throwing fireballs.
Bitch, boom, boom, boom.
Bitch, uh-uh, take this and then you make it all
the way to the princess who said this nigga named king cooper right she the princess you just a
plumber you just kicking in those you killed every last kid he had and took his bitch.
The bitch never said
she wanted to go with Mario.
He's a player.
Didn't his brother Luigi?
Luigi ain't had nothing
to do with nothing.
He just was...
If you play with Luigi,
legs kick all rear.
You can't beat no game
with Luigi.
If you play Mario Brothers 2,
when you're picking the fucking
Rutabagas
that's what I call it
picking Rutabagas you throw him
whatever but I'm just saying
at the end of the day Mario Brothers
was home invasion rapist
and they trained
a lot of kids
into a lot of shit that we weren't supposed to be into
what do you think things like modern warfare like when people are playing these Modern Warfare games?
See, I don't play any of those, yo.
But do you think the people, when they play those games, like Urban Warfare games, they're very popular, right?
What's the big one?
No, a new one came out.
Yeah, Modern Warfare 2.
So Modern Warfare is the big one, right?
Is there more than one of those?
There's another one, like Fortnite, similar style of game,
but you're doing way different stuff the whole entire time.
But Modern Warfare is basically like you're at war.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What do I think?
I think you gay.
No, no.
Are you going gonna play games
And like shoot niggas
And like being fun
And have a shoot
That's not fun to me
Like I
My favorite video game
That I play is Persona
Persona?
What is that?
Shit
It's about
Some teenage kids
That went to school
And the murder happened
And we gotta figure out
The murder Oh, so it got to figure out the murder.
Oh, so it's a puzzle game?
It's like 21 Jump Street.
Really?
Yeah.
This is it?
Oh.
Oh, so it's like anime?
Yeah, it's so good.
Joker, that's Joker.
So you're like living, like you're playing the game as you're a character in this anime?
Yeah.
Oh. It's so good. That's cool. And you only playing the game as you're a character in this anime. Yeah. Oh.
It's so good.
That's cool.
And you only know the story unless you beat the game.
There's a lot of games now that you have to go on a journey.
So if you love, if you got caught up into the story and you love the video game, it's
going to make you beat the game to know what happens in the story.
Yeah.
So Joker.
But I've been making look, look, Joker, sexiest. But they've been making look Joker sexy as fuck.
They've been making look.
You got to do
all type of shit.
But yeah.
Interesting.
There's a lot of games now
where you,
you basically,
you're going on this
like hyper-realistic journey.
It's not as simple
as just going
and pressing things
and shooting things.
No, no, no.
These games will take your life away. No, no, no. These games will take your life.
No, now the best games are those.
The best games are those.
That's what I would say.
Like, um, personas and, uh, I mean, I'm more so into sports games.
Sports games?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Me, I'm, um, NBA 2K.
That's what I was just talking about with Hannibal NBA 2K is like
the nigga version of the metaverse
and we just don't know that yet
they've been
they've been training us to get
adapted to
oh shit
metaverse
they've been
training us to get adapted to the metaverse
have you fucked with any VR
Have you done
I've done all of it
Yeah what do you think about it
I'm just
I may be too old for it
Like just having something
On your head
I mean
It's not
Actual what happens
To content that I see
It's just actual
Just having a thing
Over your face
Yeah
Do you think that
As it gets lighter it
get more easy to accept yeah of course but as of right now sunglasses as of right now it's nothing
that's not you know i'm saying like putting that yeah putting that no it's still fun i love vr i
i can i've done all the beers bro it's only one time the v VR? You played that? No.
The Arkham?
Oh, bro.
I've only played a few VR things.
The things that are really good to me are the shadow boxing ones.
Because you're having a boxing match against this robot. Just because you say that, play the Batman.
Yeah?
Batman on a...
Oh, you, like, do shit?
That's what made me...
That's what fucked me up on VR.
That's why I don't fuck with it no more.
Because that was...
It got too deep.
Really?
I thought I was Batman. They just put out Iron Man. You can be Iron VR. That's why I don't fuck with it no more. Because that was, it got too deep. Really?
I thought I was Batman.
They just put out Iron Man.
You can be Iron Man.
It's pretty cool.
Oh, wow.
It got too deep.
You put your hands back and you fly.
Oh, shit.
For three days, I played, bro, for three days.
Oh, man. I beat it in three days, but I thought I was Batman for them three days.
I'm talking about, so day day number two ain't no bitch
could talk to me.
The first day
when I started
it was like
ugh.
But day number two
when I was fully fledged
nigga I was Batman.
Wow.
I love
I ain't gonna lie
I love
that's the thing
I love about video games
is that I be able
to escape
and to
go to a whole nother world
this and that and then but um i think that's now where shit are starting to
with metaverses and shit is starting to collide a little bit it's definitely colliding
it's that's inevitable that us going into some virtual world is inevitable and it's
probably just a natural progression of what consciousness does when it can control technology
to a certain point probably gets to a certain point then it creates an artificial technology
just how long is it going to take is it going to take 100 years before we're all doing it or 200
years but we're going to be plugged in like i think think it's three years it might be i don't know three years is all metaverse but the the metaverse itself i was
reading something about uh how meta stock is down because of all this investment in the mega metaverse
right isn't that what's going on that could probably also be because like their metaverse
is different from what everybody else wanted they They're trying to make their own thing, corporate version.
I just told y'all.
That's what I was talking about with Hannibal.
The nigga version of metaverse is NBA 2K.
If you play NBA 2K, my nigga, bro, you make your own character.
Whatever basketball player you want to be.
Like, I want to be 6'6", 250.
I want to play for
Orlando Magic
then you on that team
then you playing it like everyday
like literally playing like
what game they got to play today
like you're on it like to the point where you're
you're mental like even now like I play
2K games like oh and I watch
the real game that happen like ooh
I got to play that game tonight
like you get what I'm saying like real shit like that so they're so good right now and they're
gonna be so much better as addictive as they are now imagine how addictive games are gonna be in
20 years or 30 years like it's like 20 years ago man they were like blocky looking everything
games are not gonna I feel like then that's gonna be gonna figure it out. It's gonna be I
Mean
But it's gonna be real
Real life like us do it's gonna be podcast video games and I'm not
My mouth wasn't in front of
The mic the right time when I see said what I had to say when you click
the button and that's what see I'm giving them too much game so make it be
I swear to God it could happen no it could nigga it's going to get this game
the power wash simulator people just power These are my homies. This is my favorite game or Washington clean stuff
Bro you made this up. You already know hold up Joe a job you would never want Joe
Joe the truck simulators. He already knew this
This all I've been talking about my pockets for the past. This is all I've been talking about on my podcast for the past.
This is all I play.
Really?
The best game.
You play this?
Power Wise Simulator?
It's the best game, bro.
Of the year.
It's the best game of the year.
Do you know how crazy that is, though?
Like people do this?
They'll drive.
No.
Fake simulate drive a semi truck.
Go to my Twitter right now.
Power Wise Simulator.
Hit me up because I told them like bro
How is when I finish the entire level and then it's like two it's like two
It'd be like some dirt under the table, but there's a simulation of driving a truck down an empty highway Oh, what's wrong with people that know?
people by real giant
Your person that will get into video and you love it.
Look, look at this.
Farming simulator.
Farming simulator, putting out fires.
So what is this?
Farming.
The guy gets in the truck.
No, not fire.
Farming.
Oh, farming.
Farming.
We building crops.
Oh, my God.
You're building your entire land.
Look at this.
It's not real.
Oh, it's trucking.
This is a truck simulator.
Yeah, fuck the truck simulator.
It's like the car, but- Because they ain't got no lizard locks. It's not truck simulator. Yeah, fuck the truck simulator. It's like the car, but...
Because they ain't got no lizard lots.
It's not about speed.
It's about dropping shit off.
How is a truck simulator real with no lizard lots?
So is this...
Lot lizards, yeah.
Is this how...
Is this how they're teaching this guy to drive?
And I'll be honest, the video I just clicked, that could be this, but I was just trying
to find someone's crazy simulator setup.
But no, I'm being...
Because look, this is a game... No, what what we did we just hopped on the simulators for
everything they're playing these simulators drug dealer simulators my
favorite drug dealer simulator like you own your own dispensaries and shit you
got to be on dispensaries and look just the video that needs to be playing, Joe. I'm sorry. I get it. No. Truck driver video games.
If you thought about a monotonous job.
More specifically than farming is Weed Farmer.
Weed Farmer is a Weed Farmer game with fake water.
But what is the original one?
The realest one is the airplane one.
Oh, yeah.
Flight Simulator is real.
Oh, you don't fuck with that?
I feel like that's some shit you don't fuck with that I feel like that's some shit
you don't fuck with
I don't fuck with video games
but flight simulator
they get me too much
you don't think
you can fuck with that
I get addicted to them
for some reason
I think
that would be like
if I would think like
like who I'm selling
this video game to
to me
that would be like
flight simulator
I would think it would be you
Hinchcliffe does these
he's
fuck no yeah he does yeah he knows a lot about it like he was talking to a pilot about engines That would be like flight simulator. I would think it would be you. Hinchcliffe does these. Fuck no!
Yeah, he does. He knows a lot about it.
He was talking to a pilot about engines and all kinds of different things.
Part two, me and Tony.
Tony does these all the time, these flight simulators.
Yeah, he's really into it.
All right, all right.
I used to play this game called Quake.
You seem like a type of nigga that'd be.
One-on-one video game.
You'd be finessing on RuneScape.
What's that?
What's RuneScape?
You mean Escape Room?
No.
No?
What's RuneScape?
It's a game.
It's just James.
Bro, you already know.
What is it?
What is RuneScape?
Oh, RuneScape.
Oh, so this is like some fantasy type shit.
We're going to stop.
I'm going to cast a spell on you.
Come on.
Can we stop? Look at this. You thought I would be into this? You thought I would be into this? Let's? We're going to stop. I'm going to cast a spell on you. Come on, can we stop?
Look at this.
You thought I would be into this?
You thought I would be into this?
Let's get back in real life.
Now I'm insulted.
I was fine until now.
Now I'm like, what the fuck happened?
RuneScape?
Yeah, what is that?
Bro, these niggas been finessing and been making so much money off RuneScape a year.
Oh, I'm sure.
People make money off all kinds of things.
That's not cool.
For real. No, I'm being honest. Like. That's not cool. For real.
No, I'm being honest.
That's not cool, man.
The RuneScape, how it happened.
I'm sure it's awesome.
No.
See, that's the thing.
I wish I was on the other side of the fence.
Yeah, let me get some of that.
Why do you wish you were on the other side of the fence?
Because I ain't getting none of that RuneScape money.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
So RuneScape is just super popular.
But it's a game you love?
Do you like it?
Why would you think I'd be playing it then?
You're shaking your head no.
Somebody, I thought you was a RuneScape type man.
For some reason.
No, I ain't gonna lie.
I'm sorry.
I get scared of those,
is that like a role playing game?
Is that what that is?
Looks a little like it, yeah.
Don't cut this out
because I feel like people
would know,
but like damn,
they will get what I'm talking about.
Like damn,
Joe seem like a room skate type of nigga.
Looks like a little bit of like
World of Warcraft kind of.
Those games,
those games are
insanely addictive
for people.
Those World of Warcraft
games
or what was the other one
that existed
the big one before that?
Starcraft?
No.
Yeah.
That's not like it is it?
Yeah but there was
Starcraft is more like
a strategy.
Starcraft is coming next
right?
But there was another game
There was another game
that Duncan got sucked into.
Was it World of Warcraft?
No. He got Duncan got sucked into. Was it World of Warcraft? No.
He got, Duncan got addicted hard to one of those
fantasy games where you're like
in, like
there's a lot of other people
and you're doing tasks together and
shit and you're in the forest
with elves and shit.
What's the Switch?
Starcraft, yeah. I guess that's what it was playing, I think. Is that what it was Switch? StarCraft, yeah.
I guess that's what it was playing, I think.
Is that what it was playing?
No, man. Animal Crossing.
I know he played World of Warcraft, too.
Is it Animal Crossing?
I just feel like there was a game
that was like, maybe it's World of Warcraft.
I don't remember which one it was, but it was one of the first
of those games where people just kind of
lost their life to.
There was a dude who was the manager of the comedy store, and this dude's face was pale.
What is it?
Duncan playing it.
Yeah, well, he definitely has played StarCraft.
Yeah, so, no, StarCraft is not.
God, there was another game, man. It's on the tip of my tongue.
Anyway, this dude brings.
League of Legends or some shit?
No.
Fucking, I don't remember.
Where are you? But it was just, he was so sad he was so addicted he and he was like i'm so good at making money in the game and so bad
at doing it in real life i'm like no that's crazy but that's the thing like these have been
selling cs gold skins and shit like these have been millionaires a video game yeah right because
uh it's scary you can sell some of the stuff that you earn in the game, right?
It's scary.
With real money.
It's scary.
Yeah, that's pretty wild.
So, see, the thing is for me in video games, a lot of people look at me like I'm a super gamer,
but I play the game in a sense to review them.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Just to review them?
Yeah.
I play games because I don't want to tell people that I think something is trash, that I didn't have nothing to do them. Oh, really? Yeah. Just to review them? Yeah. I play games because I don't want
to tell people
that I think
something's trash
that I didn't have
nothing to do with.
So I would play,
like,
everybody be like,
oh, this shit tight.
I play and be like,
I will tell you what,
I don't, you know?
Like, right now
in the new game,
I can't even really
think of the name of it,
but the game is,
it's an independent game,
but the whole game
is about starting
your own cult.
So you start your cult
and you know,
so the whole shit
is about,
you know,
running a cult.
So that's the whole
new video game
I'm into.
I don't,
you know,
if you think like
Modern Warfare, Call of Duty type thing, inspires people to shoot people. I don't... You know, if you think like Modern Warfare,
Call of Duty type thing, inspires people
to shoot people. I wonder if like starting
a cult would inspire people to start a cult.
This is it? Honey, I joined a cult.
Cults 101. This is the game you're playing?
Yeah. Oh my god.
It's so good.
How many people that are in a cult
think they're in a cult? No one.
Part two, I want to start a cult. Do're in a cult no one part two I want
to start a cult do you yeah where would you do it I feel like New Mexico's your
spot oh where would I do it did Detroit that's right yeah if you if you can make
it there you can make it anywhere I won't know weak bitches in my coat yeah
you want cold weather cults but no when, when I think about it, I could have started a fucking cult in Detroit.
Them bitches don't care.
What would you base your cult on?
Sex.
What you bitches going to do?
But what's the trick?
How do you get them to join?
Like space shit?
Spiritual?
What are you going with?
Who going to get the dick?
I mean, how hard are you going to work for it?
I mean, if some bitch is like, oh, you going to let me pee on you?
Oh, boy.
Oh, yeah.
Jesus.
Tandy Brown.
So the pee on bitches.
Maybe you should start your own game.
No, this is the game.
See, this is before me, before I was a one-woman man.
See, now I love my girl.
We together.
But this video game thing, like this cult thing you do,
at least it's like cartoony, right?
It looks cartoony.
Oh, yeah.
See, that's the one thing about it.
Yeah.
It's not realistic.
That would be a creepy fucking game if you started a realistic cult
but they all they all lead to people fucking right i think that's the funny ever a cult that
see this is where it comes with me and um i think that's the only thing that's funny
people fucking i mean how do you make jokes about shit, that's where I'm at with comedy. Like, I know I make rap songs and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I don't know.
See, the thing is about making rap songs and shit is, like,
you can be as cool as you want with rap songs,
but it's cool as hell to rhyme words.
Yes, it is.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes.
Like, you can rhyme words that sound cool and it's just like oh
all right you know and i have nothing to do with fucking comedy or nothing but it's funny
yeah and so now you're telling me to get on stage and be funny without the rhyming
funny words yeah but you're already doing it when you're doing your podcast.
You're telling funny stories.
Because I tell stories and shit, but I don't know.
What do you mean you don't know?
I'm just here.
But you don't have to do it.
You don't have to do it tonight.
If you want to do it in the future, you can prepare for it.
No, see, this is the thing about it with me.
I've been a rapper my entire life.
And that was God told me, oh, you're going to be a rapper.
Try to be a rapper.
And try my best to be a rapper and rap as much as I could.
But who knows?
If I grew up in fucking some weird suburb, and I wasn't a black nigga.
And rap wasn't just a thing around me.
What I've been doing, comedy.
What I've been doing, what I've been playing the guitar or shit like that.
So I feel like when they talk about 100 hours, I only think I'm good at rapping because I did 100 hours.
You mean like 10,000 hours?
Oh, yeah, the 10,000 hours.
My bad.
100 hours.
Everybody's like, damn, that's all it takes?
Yeah, but 10,000 hours.
Yeah.
Oh, I definitely ding over 10,000 hours when it comes to rap.
Don't you think that's the case with anything?
I think that's probably the case with everything.
To get good at it, you got to really put in time.
So that's what we're talking time so that's what we're talking
about that's what we're talking about yeah so i think you have a head start because i think
some of your hours already count so it's like you're transferring your education from a different
school so me doing this podcast i'm gonna do the podcast and then just hang around with someone
time like time i look at like time is like i look up to him like, you. I look at y'all guys, like, in a total different light.
And then y'all be like, oh, you can do this shit.
You can do this shit.
And I'm like, ah.
It scares me a little bit, man.
You know what I'm saying?
It's supposed to scare you.
It's supposed to scare you.
Because I want to do it because.
Because you want to do it well.
And you got to look at it like this.
Let's just say, I'm a a rapper i haven't had the most
rap career like i don't i fucking i don't get grammys i don't sell records like you get what
i'm saying yeah like i've every album i put out has sold less records every time. And then you know why is that?
Why? Because I never, you know how they say, like,
a person, like, if you don't change anything that you do,
you're, like, retarded.
Like, you know, insane.
Like, every album that I made is the same album in some sense.
But I'm just tinkering with what I thought was bad
the last album
and just trying to make a better album
with every album.
So I'm not going over means.
You know?
I'm just trying to beat
what I did last time.
Right.
And I do it every time,
which is great.
So what are you trying to say?
That's not enough.
That's not enough. That's not enough.
Why is that?
In the world of rap music, what are we dealing with?
You know?
I just gave you that whole theory of that.
No, I get the theory.
I'm the Patrice O'Neal of this rap shit.
Can you be independent as a rap artist now?
Is it possible to not be involved in a record deal with
a company? Yeah.
If you believe in yourself that much,
but we need the money from the record companies
to make us keep going.
So that's what the record companies are doing.
They're providing the initial investment that gets you going.
Yeah.
But at the end of the day,
when they give you the initial investment,
all they do is just tie you in.
So let's put it like this.
Okay, Denny Brown.
No one, I didn't have a record deal.
I made all this shit off my own shit.
Boom.
Made one of the illicit rap albums.
I get all the crazies.
High, because my whole shit was about reviews.
You feel me?
It's not what people say about when you go on Metacritic. because my whole shit was about reviews. You feel me?
It's not what people say about when you go on Metacritic and you see all the reviews add up.
What that review add up.
So my whole shit was about as long as I get a high score in Metacritic
and, you know, whatever.
As long as I get high.
I don't have to sell records because 10 years, 20 years, whatever.
Motherfucker can die and they're going to Google what was the best reviewed albums in 2022.
And they're going to see Danny Brown.
You know what I'm saying?
Shit like that.
So my whole shit was that.
And I did that.
And I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
So were you saying that you're like, does it concern you the amount of time that you'd have to do stand-up for to get good at it?
No.
Is it like?
No, I told you what.
My whole point is I know I have to bomb.
Right.
And I bombed.
A little bit.
I bombed so long we're doing rap music.
Yeah, but I don't know if you have to bomb.
You just have to figure it out.
Like, I think you have a giant advantage.
But see, this thing is what it was, Joe.
I thought about that, and I was like, man, yeah.
I don't want to go through that.
But then I thought about it in another world.
I'm like, who else gets this chance?
If you think you can do it, you can do it.
No, but who else gets this chance like you can be a rapper and a lot of times i think about me being a rapper
is that just because the environment i grew up in who says i was a rapper i just literally lived in
fucking the hood and that was the coolest shit to do. I could do comedy then,
but it wasn't a cool thing to push comedy for me at that.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
But everybody was cool with me being a rapper,
so I just rapped.
Do you think if there was comedy,
if it was a cool thing to do comedy,
you would do that?
Yes.
100%.
There you go.
100%.
Because even,
it got to the point where I remember,
you know,
when your teacher asks you what you wanted to be when you grew up
Type shit
And I would say a rap
I wanted to be a rapper
And the class would laugh at me
So it got to the point where I stopped saying I wanted to be a rapper
And I would say I wanted to be a stand-up comedian
And the class didn't laugh at me no more
But then the teacher
The teacher would ask me to do stand-up comedian shit
And I didn't have.
Because I remember one time, like, the teacher asked me, like,
we had, like, a, you know, like, some type of, like, a holiday,
a holiday, like, you know, program we got to put on for this shit.
You know, like a Christmas program and shit.
Yeah.
And I had, like, a poetry thing that I was going to do and this shit.
And I remember just reading this shit and I was like, man, this shit whack.
Like I can rap.
Like I knew me to myself like reading the poems and shit.
I can rap.
Like I can make some ill shit way better than this.
So instead of me like so we would and I had to do the poems, instead of me doing
the actual poems I was supposed to do,
I just started just doing random raps.
And then the whole class, like, the school, everybody,
like, they just went nuts, like, oh, like,
applauding for me and shit.
And I was like, damn, you know, like,
that's probably what I should be doing then.
Like, I'd probably be a rapper.
You know what I'm saying?
So I just kept just rapping.
Like, even that.
Like, I was, um, I rapped the entire time.
Like, I would go to school, like, being in, like, middle school, like, sixth grade or whatever, fuck.
No one knew I rapped.
It'd be always one kid that'd pop up and try to, like, rap and, like, be a rapper.
And he'd be like, ugh. anybody and i just be like just sitting
in the corner to myself like and this be like my time to shine and i'll just buy them
every time but from that one day it would make me the most popular kid in school
yeah instantly literally happened like bro, every year in school.
Like, I would literally shut up the whole year.
One time some rapping came up, I'd bust a rap,
and then the whole entire school would look at me different.
How many kids in your grade tried rapping?
Probably be like three or four of us.
Because I actually learned how to write a rap.
Probably be like three or four of us Cause I actually learned how to write a rap
Was from one of my
Like a kid
Kevin Willis
Shouts out Kevin Willis
He had all the hockey jerseys
Can you imagine that?
No niggas we don't watch hockey
But this nigga would show up
Like on some throwback shit
Like he had all the ill hockey jerseys
But his brother rapped.
And his brother used to rap in his notebook.
And one day he showed me his notebook.
And I saw the way the format of how he wrote rap.
So like, and you want to hear the fucked up part about it?
It's kind of like comedy.
Because it's all about stand up.
It's all about like set up, set up, punchline.
Set up, set up, punchline.
You get what I'm saying? You set up, set up. It's all about like set up, set up, punchline. Set up, set up, punchline. You get what I'm saying?
Like you set up, set up.
So I learned that from that.
That's why even when y'all talk about comedy, like I can do it.
I just don't, you know, I'm just, you know, I've just been a bitch ass nigga about it.
Because I know I can do it.
It's like everything else, Danny Brown.
Before you've done it, you get scared of it. Then you do it and you realize, oh, maybe I can get better at this. Then you can do it. It's like everything else, Danny Brown. Before you've done it, you get scared of it.
Then you do it, and you realize,
well, maybe I can get better at this.
Then you keep doing it.
It's like everything else.
You know, you can't...
You can get paralysis by analysis.
No, the thing about...
You know what I'm saying?
I'm doing it.
Okay, good.
I'm doing it.
There's no...
The only reason why I... I mean mean just make sure you time it out to
five minutes I feel don't go over don't go less no I want to do it but no only
restructure I'm not saying only reason but I don't think too many people get
just lucky as me and it's to me to fucking take care of the blessings and really appreciate them and go hard.
Because a rapper, bro, rapping is like literally selling dope.
It's like what?
Selling dope.
You might get five years at max.
Becoming a rapper?
Like, how?
I mean, how long you think you're going to be hot?
You might got five years max.
For me to fucking push my five years
because i was the hot rapper for five years and i did that and i was able to push it to start
hanging with y'all niggas and do comedy shit and then it kind of like pressed it here and there
to where it wasn't like no dick riding shit, to where it looked like I was trying to like, it was,
you saw me learn into this situation of this,
to where I got the fucking podcast with Time Up.
So if you watch me as being like a Danny Brown fan,
like you super watched my whole progression of this shit to get to here.
Yeah.
You get what I'm saying?
So it's not like a big deal.
Like,
you know what I'm saying?
Like,
they're like,
oh,
like the people that are like super fans of me, like I get this shit and I'm saying? They're like, oh. The people that are super fans of me, they get this shit and they do it.
They're like, oh, this is what he's supposed to be doing.
This nigga been like, bro, this nigga been fighting for this.
You get what I'm saying?
So for me being here talking shit is like, bro, I supposed to be here doing this shit.
The only thing I don't understand is just, because I think I love the writing aspect.
To what part?
In anything.
But what do you mean?
What don't you understand about it?
You said the only thing I don't understand, I like the writing aspect.
Because the shit you write don't necessarily mean you can go on stage and it can be funny.
Yeah, but it's an idea.
And then you work it out on stage.
Yeah, no, no. That's what I learned. But sometimes you don't. Sometimes you write it out an idea, and then you work it out on stage.
Yeah.
No, no.
That's what I learned.
But sometimes you don't.
Sometimes you write it out. No, no.
That's what I learned.
You have to go and just work it, and then that will turn into something else.
Sometimes.
And that will turn into something else.
Sometimes you write something, and it's good right away.
It doesn't make any sense.
It's just like creativity is very-
I'm super green as fuck.
I'm sure you are.
I'm a motherfucker that's
damn you don't have to explain this to me oh yeah it's okay i'm green but i'm only taking it serious
because look you time like people that i really respect with this comedy shit and i know you can
do this shit yeah and it's like bro like i would be a i would be retarded not to try
i'm sorry.
It's okay.
We've said that a bunch of times already.
I know.
And I hate to say that, but you know what?
That's just like a normal thing.
Your writing thing is not much different than any other kind of writing.
It's just expressing your thoughts and getting it down on print and just put it in a computer.
And really a lot of it is about the time spent thinking about the subjects.
When you're writing, you have to think about these subjects.
Like, a lot of people like to write in their head, which is great, too.
But when you write, when you're looking at a piece of paper or when you're looking at
a screen and you're typing, now you're really thinking about it.
And it's extra time thinking about it.
Do you know how easy it is to write a rap?
It's four punchlines.
You understand what I'm saying?
Uh-huh.
So let's just say, if I come up with four punchlines, I told you.
So let's just say I'm hanging out.
Any boom day, I just write, I hear punchlines.
Your bitch suck my dick like a Klondike.
Let's say if I had that line.
Right.
Your bitch suck my dick like a Klondike.
I write four lines, three lines that come up with that, and then that's the fourth line because that's the that line. Right. Your bitch suck my dick like a Klondike. I write four lines,
three lines that come up with that
and then that's the fourth line
because that's the big line.
So,
niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah,
niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah,
niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah,
niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah,
niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah,
your bitch suck my dick
like a Klondike.
You hear what I'm saying?
So it's,
that's common.
If you think about it,
so I gotta,
so all I gotta do is have these,
all I gotta do is figure out
four punchlines and I have a, I I gotta do is figure out four punchlines.
And I have a verse.
16 bars of verse.
So, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So I would come up with these four lines,
write these punchlines.
It don't matter what the song is to it.
I would figure these out.
I'm gonna figure it out.
Now what we come to realize to realize like that's what
stand-up comedy is yeah to the entire time where I thought I was being a
rapper and I was writing raps was lightly writing because that's not when
I took other rappers and they don't write raps like're like nigga you're writing stand up no so i've been doing i was doing stand
up the entire time and i didn't realize it all i wrote was punch even to bro i got up off the bed
today like last night if i hear a punchline like there's something that i think is funny to myself
and i'm like i gotta write that down And last night It was I was talking to them
About it
Before the last podcast
It was doubled eggs
Doubled eggs?
Bro
That's the most
I get why they call
Double eggs
Doubled eggs
Now me
I'm a person that love eggs
I'm a
Gotta get your protein
High if you can get it
But
Alright
If we were talking about Ab abortions and this and that.
So these niggas are, I'm just saying, it's an egg.
Okay, it's not fertilized.
But they took you, they scrambled you up, then put you back into the mix,
then fed you the next.
This is like the most, like, gruesome shit you can do to anybody.
It's a deviled egg, man.
You're going to tell me, bro, if you take my shell,
you take me, all my skin,
and you're going to take all this,
throw some mayonnaise and some...
Do you know that deviled eggs are eggs that are not fertilized?
This is not like a logical premise
because those eggs aren't fertilized.
They can never become a chicken.
A fertilized egg is an egg when the rooster fucks the hen and then the egg could become a person.
Egg is just a piece of protein.
It's never going to be a living organism.
Joe, how does this change the situation?
Because you're talking about gruesomely Turning up what it means to be you
It's a dead baby
Any way it goes
No no no it's not a dead baby
There's zero potential to be a baby
It's never impregnated
They lay eggs every day
I have chickens
So eating double days
They're building a chicken coop in my house right now
Eating double days is not bad
It's nothing.
It's like free protein.
I hate you, man.
Sorry.
Sorry.
But that's what an egg is.
But can I get my bit?
The bit's not going to work.
God damn it.
It's okay.
I get what you're going for.
And if it really was you were eating babies, it makes sense.
But most people know that that's not really what's going on.
Right.
You know what I mean?
It's like one of them things where someone has to.
But see, that's why you need a ghostwriter.
Yes.
Well, you need someone to consult with.
Sometimes you have some funny ideas and you don't realize that it's not logical.
Sometimes it doesn't have to be logical.
Maybe a lot of people don't know.
No, you're right.
You're right.
Sometimes it doesn't have to be logical. Yeah. of people don't know sometimes it doesn't have to be logical but
yeah that's the one I thought was really funny
well Danny Brown we're gonna work on some stuff
then we're gonna go over some of your material
we're gonna come up with a fucking game plan
in five minutes tonight
don't tell me that cause I'm really serious about it
why would I not tell you that
no I'm really serious about it
no cause
I don't know, man.
I think, I think comedy is like a, like I said, it's kind of gatekeeping.
And the last thing they want to see is a nigga like me.
That's not true.
That was a rapper.
If you're funny.
Come out of nowhere.
If you're funny.
And get good at this shit and then blow and then be fired.
I don't think.
Danny, you can't think like this.
No, I don't care.
But you're saying it over and over and over again.
Who gives a fuck about that?
Oh, because I've been through it.
But don't.
Whoever's gatekeeping comedy, they're not.
No, I've kind of been through it.
Maybe that's what it is.
Most comedians, most comedians, if you're killing it, would be happy.
They would laugh.
They would think this is great.
Danny Brown's fucking hilarious.
So that's what we hope for. I for that all right because i mean i love making music but um you should be
professionally danny brown i would love for i would love to be able to make music without any
thinking about making any money from it.
Yeah.
Or something like that.
Right.
Or even doing comedy.
Yeah.
Like, when I can get to the point in my life where, because that's where it's at now.
You know?
Yeah.
Like, I have to do shit.
Yeah.
To fucking support myself.
And I wish I didn't have that.
Right.
You wish you could just do whatever you enjoy and then make money off of it.
Ain't that everybody else
So I can't sit around
And act like it's not a big deal
You know what I'm saying
Yeah
I can't I gotta wrap this up
So let's close this out
Oh yeah thank you
My pleasure
Tell everybody
All your social media shit
Oh
X Danny
X Brown X
That's on my Twitters
And fucking Instagrams
Or whatever the fuck is that
Also I have a
Writing a book a book.
The book will be coming
soon.
Working on that.
It sucks to be on
fucking Joe Rogan
having nothing to sell.
But that's the real shit.
I guess, you know,
shout out, man.
Joe, man,
thank you for having me
on here, man.
It's fun, man.
Thanks for being on, brother.
We're going to have fun tonight.
All right.
My man.
Danny Brown, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm with you, nigga. Woo! on, brother. We're going to have fun tonight. All right. My man. Danny Brown. I'm with you, nigga.
Woo!
Bye, everybody.