The Joe Rogan Experience - #1902 - Danny Brown

Episode Date: November 23, 2022

Danny Brown is a rapper, singer, songwriter, and host of "The Danny Brown Show" podcast. His latest album "Quaranta" will be available soon. www.xdannyxbrownx.com ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. But then you thinking like that, that's like... That's the curse of being successful though, right? When people lean on you. I'm successful but on my own terms. Yeah, but that's still successful. Yeah, but that's still successful. Yeah, but... On your own terms is great.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Because, see, my shit was the music industry. And the music industry is one of those type of situations where you can be as creative as you want to be, but does that make you money? You know? So you have this whole fucking, like, angel and double on your shoulder. Make a hit song. Or be creative as you want to be do what you want to do or do what you think is going to sell my whole entire career i just did what i wanted to do yeah and but at this point after 10 years i sit back sometime and i think
Starting point is 00:00:57 about like damn did i make a mistake because you know it's still a lot of people in my family that struggle and it's like fuck you know what if i just didn lot of people in my family that struggle. It's like, fuck, you know? But if I just didn't care about being Danny Brown and being so cool and trying to make the most experimental music I could possibly make, fucking just don't give a fuck. Make that fucking hit song. But isn't that you, though? But I can do it. You could do both.
Starting point is 00:01:21 That's the whole thing of what makes you a great artist. See, like a person like jay-z he does both does both yeah i don't know if i can do both because it's such a drastic it's such a drastic change from what i love is underground music yeah and what is commercially and considered to be pop music is such a drastic it's such a fucking you know what i'm saying so i don't know if i can ever make it's like with patricia o'neill when he's ever been a fucking like you know I'm saying commercial I stand up copy what I'm saying yeah no I think you would have been at this point in age yeah yeah we would have forced it through yeah and
Starting point is 00:01:57 that's what I made it that's the one person that I look up to he was amazing so I look up him so much and we have everybody would have forced it through like even if he couldn't get on the television show even if nothing ever He was amazing. I look up him so much. Everybody would have forced it through. Even if he couldn't get on a television show, even if nothing ever happened for him like that, we would have all had him on podcasts. Because even with my rap career and just how I look at making music, I look at him as a super inspiration.
Starting point is 00:02:17 It was my last album, which was called You Know What I'm Saying, which is actually from Tom and Christina because they had this bit. We had this bit where they had niggas, and you know niggas be like, you know what I'm saying, which is actually um from time and Christina because they had this bit But they we had his bit where they had niggas any no niggas. You know what I'm saying You know even me I say you know what I'm saying like a lot like a mother but before that The name of the album was the Patricia O'Neill theory Because Patrice O'Neill he had this theory where you talk about like men has periods But we don't necessarily have periods periods we just want to fuck another bitch so every time you're mad at your girl like she's like all on you and she's like
Starting point is 00:02:51 you're like my woman is beautiful you know i'm saying like being but you're like bitch because you just want another taste of something you give it a chance and when you get that? Like, it's to the point where if you've been so faithful for so long, you're like, I'll fuck a homeless bitch on the corner. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:11 But if I did, it's going to make me love you so much more. Like, I won't have this attitude, which is this whole attitude I got, which you think, why are you so bad? Why are you acting like this? Because I need some new pussy.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And that's all it is but the Patrice O'Neal theory that's the Patrice O'Neal theory he had a lot of great theories but I would say listen I'm going to say this because I love my girl at home
Starting point is 00:03:33 I know she probably listened to this I love you baby but no I'm out of there I don't have that don't get hurt like that no more I'm 40 years old.
Starting point is 00:03:45 It's like, come on. This motherfucker has been burnt out. They've been hitting this motherfucker. Bitch been speed bagging his dick. This dick been getting speed bagged for the last 10 years. When did you decide to do this podcast that you're doing with your mom's house? Because it's hilarious. No, the thing was that, oh, you know Uncle Joey.
Starting point is 00:04:04 It started with him. He started? No, you want me to bring it? Because it goes back into me just being a rapper and just me being on some rap shit. And I was on tour. I was on tour for a long part of time. And being on tour, you get bored. And I'm a gamer.
Starting point is 00:04:20 So I bought a lot of video games. And guess what? I bought UFC. Before the good UFCs. This is a whatever UFC video game. So I'm playing that, and you were the fucking announcer on it. So I'm playing that, and you're the announcer on the album tour. And then I guess, I don't know, some type of way I was watching UFC or some shit.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And then I seen you on there, and it was like, oh, this the nigga from the video game. Is this not hilarious to you? Like, this is how I got up on this whole shit. So I'm like, this the nigga from the video game, Joe Rogan. So then I started listening to Joe Rogan shit. And then from seeing Joe Rogan shit, I seen Uncle Joey on there. And I see Uncle Joey on there. And I just started going through the fucking the rabbit hole
Starting point is 00:05:06 of y'all shit like even the shit of fucking fucking Red Band dumbass always talking about fucking Olive Garden and shit like that
Starting point is 00:05:13 like the fucking Olive Garden and butthole yeah like the Justin TV day like I've so so I've been like I will
Starting point is 00:05:21 credit you to fucking up my fucking music career in some sense. No. I will say that. Because it got to the point where all I did was, all I ever did in my life was listen to music. Like, I was one of those people where I would, like, be like, man, people don't really listen to music.
Starting point is 00:05:36 They just listen to music in their cars or when they got to function. Not just sit down and listen. I'm the type of person that listens to music 24-7 a day. Whatever new, whatever. I'm the type of person that listens to music 24 seconds a day. Whatever new, whatever. But then I started getting into podcasting and listening to your shit and doing that and all that. So just being into podcasting and listening to y'all shit,
Starting point is 00:05:56 you know, fucking with Uncle Joey and all that shit. And then I got into Why I Made shit, listening to their shit. And then, you know, just time hit me up, like, come through. But when time hit me up, he didn't know how much of a fan boy i was of the shit so when i came through i was hitting them with all this shit you know all the fucking whammy shit like you know straight real mommy shit you get what i'm saying like jeans yeah so the jeans so that's what happened the jeans the whole the fan base of the whole shit fucked with me they They knew I was, like, real in this shit. So they embraced me with that shit.
Starting point is 00:06:27 So Tom would always hit me up and talk about it. He'd be like, man, because me and Tom would, like, FaceTime and, like, talk to each other. Some real friend shit. He had nothing to do with no business or nothing else. And Tom would be like, man, you should do a podcast. I'm telling you, you'll be good at doing podcasts. I'm glad he told you that. And this and that.
Starting point is 00:06:41 But my whole shit was with him. And I was like, man, no. told you that and this and that and but my whole shit was with him and i was like man no being good at podcast is good but the actual production of it which make podcasts good because i can set up a fucking camera and a fucking microphone in my bedroom and start talking shit in front of the camera but is that going to be good yeah danny it would be good but i was like listen it's all of it's good it just captures you it's nice to have great production and the way they do it at your mom's house is awesome you have like a real professional studio i went over there and visited yeah it's beautiful the whole setup is beautiful but that's
Starting point is 00:07:13 my whole shit i was like i'm not going to do it unless it's like but you could do it on facetime it doesn't matter i know but it doesn't you're just you're just good at it you you because you're a fan of podcasts for so long I think you're probably talking back in your head yeah like I gotta be big I gotta be like you gotta look I gotta look professional it can be it can be fucking pussy this is the the double-edged sword with that with me because what I loved about podcasting was like I was almost like a fly on the wall against seeing like friends just hanging out drinking and talking shit right and now when you watch podcast and it's so fucking overproduced i heard that these niggas is writing
Starting point is 00:07:49 scripts now no i swear i heard some shit like that where they said these niggas got scripts and they looking at them on a trailer prompter you know and they sitting there doing podcasts they doing scripted podcasts podcast is supposed to be like You just a fly on the wall Sitting there in the room With a couple friends And you hearing them talking shit And you like That's why we love
Starting point is 00:08:10 Fucking Rogan so much You get what I'm saying Yeah In the beginning stages Now This some real shit Nah Nah this is
Starting point is 00:08:16 You know what I'm saying Yeah But in the beginning stages Shit like no We're a fly on the wall But The point of That that has turned to what
Starting point is 00:08:23 Media Is in real life now Is It makes so much sense when you got fucking we went through reality TV so much. Now, motherfuckers that play video games watch other motherfuckers that play video games for fun. I had a bit a long time ago about a cameraman from a reality TV show getting his own reality TV show. So the reality TV show was about a cameraman following around a cameraman on a reality TV show. And then I go, but then people are going to go, well, what about the cameraman behind the cameraman? And then they're going to do a cameraman show on that. Me and my fucked up brain, I would love to see that show,
Starting point is 00:09:05 but it has to be like the niggas that shoot porn, though. I want to know about the porn camera man. Porn camera man? Yeah. He a little creepy, too. He a little creepy. How you get that job? You just looking for it?
Starting point is 00:09:19 Because I feel like camera man is such a vast. Nigga, you shooting for the NBA, or you shooting for the motherfucking anal projections? Whatever you doing. You get what I'm saying? So you got to, you picking your poison. Yeah, you could be a professional and work for both. I mean, no, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:09:37 what I will say that's good about the cameraman shit is that just like everything else with DJing, everything that comes with the internet, internet everything or even like production equipment all this shit has become so easy to use now we're back in the day it wasn't really like I couldn't go on YouTube and find an instruction manual to how to use the MPC you know Jamie's a audio engineer like a real audio engineer who went to school for it I did go to. There was no YouTube for it. And then, like, the year I graduated, YouTube got invented.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And you were just learning all this shit on YouTube at that point. How much of what you learned in school is still valid? It's hard to say because a lot of – there's even – some of the computer programs, they don't edit for you, but they handle a lot of the shit that was difficult. Oh, yeah? You know, the fucked up part that i think about is that it's better in this sense it's because you get a lot of different point of views like yeah if i'm a nigga that i'm trying to learn some shit on youtube it's a and it's a topic that has a lot of different people that's talking about it i'm taking yeah the best parts of or whatever Identifies on me
Starting point is 00:10:45 I'm like oh I'm figuring That shit out And do that Like that Instead of just Learning from one person Yeah Oh you know
Starting point is 00:10:51 I just started I've joined a Muay Thai gym Oh yeah Yeah man Where at I suck Shouts out to all my boys Fucking old girl
Starting point is 00:10:59 Muay Thai Shout out to my boy Spencer My boy Dave My motherfuckers Chantel Autumn Yeah no I suck I actually suck
Starting point is 00:11:05 that's okay I'm not nobody sucks in the beginning no I'm chilling out right now I'm not I'll probably go back
Starting point is 00:11:12 in a few months yeah but you were doing it no I've three three four months hard yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:11:19 it's good for you man it's great to get tension out too yeah but it's one of those things you know yeah but I didn't know that part, though, because I was doing privates. Yeah. And that was fun, you know, learning shit.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Privates are good. Then I was like, you know what, let me go to real class, start going to real class. Oh, and sparring with people and shit? No, pad holding. Oh. My nigga. I ain't signing up for that, y'all. Holding the pads for people is bullshit.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Bro, I ain't signing up for that, y'all. So I haven't been back. I actually haven't been back. No, I mean, I'm going through a lot of shit. You know why I haven't been back to Muay Thai? I don't even know. But, I guess I'm talking about it. But no, we was in class one day.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Shouts out to my nigga Spencer, man. We was in class one day. And then this nigga my nigga Spencer, man. We was in class one day. And then this nigga was like, oh, you know what it is? Because I didn't have no Muay Thai shorts. So I was just like, you know, I was wearing my normal, like, regular shorts. I'm wearing, like, Gucci shorts and shit. The whole gym looking at me crazy. But so, like, I'm going to buy some Muay Thai shorts.
Starting point is 00:12:21 And you know me, I'm a nigga. I'm going to buy some fly shit. So I bought the sh buy some Muay Thai shorts. And you know me, I'm a nigga. I'm going to buy some fly shit. So I bought the shiniest Muay Thai shorts I could find. Them motherfuckers look like, you know what I'm saying? They look like gold. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, these bitches fire though. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:35 I got the fire Muay Thai shorts. What do they look like? You have a picture of them? I mean, I could show you. Yeah, show me a picture. So the gold shiny Muay Thai shirt. But I showed it to the Muay Thai. But I think he felt he was like me.
Starting point is 00:12:50 You know what that made me feel like? It was like when a nigga suck at basketball. And then he show up with the whole Jordan fit on. With the Jordans and the iris and sleeve and all that. So I felt like that's what Muay Thai was looking at me like at that point. But I didn't have no Muay Thai clothes on. This is my first time buying some Muay Thai shit. I'm an ill nigga. I love fashion. So I'm going to's what Muay Thai was looking at me like at that point. But I didn't have no Muay Thai clothes on. This is my first time buying some Muay Thai shit. I'm an ill nigga.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I love fashion. So I'm going to buy some black shit. What you want me to buy? Some normal fake ass shit? So during the class. Yeah, they got to let that go. Yeah. So one of the teachers, she was like, you know, you got these shiny ass shirts on.
Starting point is 00:13:19 You worried about the wrong shit. And I thought to myself. Why would anybody care? It's fucking shorts. But I thought to myself. would anybody care it's fucking shorts but i thought to myself and i was like you know what you right i am worried about the wrong shit why am i here playing bruce leroy with y'all niggas and i got to put a fucking album out so i haven't been to muay thai since i've been at the crib trying to finish my when i get back and i thought about it too because the way it started is because
Starting point is 00:13:46 I would always talk about on my podcast how I got my ass whooped before and he hit me up and was like yo you tired of getting your ass whooped come to Muay Thai class
Starting point is 00:13:53 and not necessarily me I'm just trying to get in shape I just don't want to you know I don't want to be fat you know but that's a good thing
Starting point is 00:14:00 for getting in shape it's the funnest thing to get in shape hitting pads and all that shit you're learning something that's fun and it's tiring. No, it was great. It was actually great. It's like the best way to get a cardio in because it's actually fun
Starting point is 00:14:12 to do. Whereas like a lot of cardio is just suck. It's just getting through the suck like an assault bike. That's just getting through suck. I was actually having a great time. I was having fun. So yeah, so I haven't been ever since that episode. So I haven't been ever since that episode. So, I haven't been.
Starting point is 00:14:27 You got to go back. And they got to let that go. They got to let that shit go. I was hanging with them. You're Danny Brown. You should be allowed to wear whatever fucking shorts you want. That's one thing I thought about, too, though. That's what you're supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:14:37 But, you know, they sell their own shit, too. So, maybe you feel like I was bad. I didn't buy their shit. They got to let that shit go. All that shit they have in their head about what kind of fucking shorts you have, who gives a shit? But part two, I just looked at it like
Starting point is 00:14:48 I never joined this situation as me trying to fight a nigga. They're shorts. No, I'm saying, I get it. They're just shorts. No, I get it, because even one time
Starting point is 00:14:56 we had a conversation, they was like, man, you got to know how to protect yourself. And this and that. I'm like, nigga, if I hit a nigga,
Starting point is 00:15:02 I'm going to get sued. True. And part two, if a nigga hit me, I'm going to shoot this nigga. Like, guns. Y'all forget that guns exist, and we live in Texas. I don't give a fuck about how many elbows you throw. Good point.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Niggas with big-ass guns. Big-ass guns. Especially in the climate, the situation that I live in. It's not like, you get what I'm saying? Yes. Bro, so me doing more trial, having not like you get what I'm saying like bro so me doing Muay Thai I'm 40 years old
Starting point is 00:15:29 I'm not about to fucking fight nobody I would never think that you would but I think everybody should learn
Starting point is 00:15:38 at least some understanding of martial arts let me say this be good for everybody one thing it did for me I don't want to talk
Starting point is 00:15:44 I hate this but I had to say because I will forget understanding of martial arts. Let me say this. Be good for everybody. One thing it did for me, and I don't want to talk, I hate this, because I'm, but I had to say, because I will forget. That's my fucked up brain. I know podcasting, oh, you don't talk about no mother,
Starting point is 00:15:53 you know, but I'm sorry. But if I don't say it, I'll forget it. But it humbled the fuck out of me, because I'm the type of motherfucker, I talk shit. Like, I get drunk. Like, nigga, nigga,
Starting point is 00:16:03 what's up, nigga? What the fuck, nigga? You know what I'm saying Nigga what Nigga I seen people Nigga Nurses
Starting point is 00:16:10 Women Five foot three Hundred and forty pounds Kick in a bag You look like Nigga If this If she hit me
Starting point is 00:16:20 With one of these It's a wrap You get what I'm saying So It humbled the fuck out of me And it made me know That I would never I never want to fight Anyone in my life with one of these. It's a wrap. You get what I'm saying? So they humbled the fuck out of me. And it made me know that I would never, I never want to fight anyone in my life.
Starting point is 00:16:30 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like everything else. It looks way easier than it is. If you're watching the UFC and you're watching Israel Adesanya versus Alex Pajero and you're watching the best in the world and you think,
Starting point is 00:16:44 if somebody fucks with me, I'm going to do something to them. You have no idea how far that gap is. It's humbling because a girl's walking around with 140 pounds, right? So that means her muscles in her legs are carrying 140 pounds everywhere she goes.
Starting point is 00:17:00 If she kicks you in the head, you're going unconscious. So yeah, that's what's been happening with my Muay Thai gym that's why I haven't been back to Muay Thai it's good though that hallway thing's good actually fucking Tony
Starting point is 00:17:09 they had a UFC they had a party for the I'll assign you a prayer or fight oh did they and he hit me up Tony's like come through
Starting point is 00:17:16 pull up pull up but I was sad about the Muay Thai shit but still yeah so it turned you off to martial arts
Starting point is 00:17:22 no no 12th planet 10th planet 10th planet i know what day around the corner right yeah yeah he was just saying just go over there well that's a good place too you don't you don't have to go to the same gym no as i'm saying go to someone who respects you i might have to switch gyms yeah go to someone who respects you because i'm danny brown i can't be fucking wearing no bullshit That's what I'm saying Whoever's running that gym Let it go
Starting point is 00:17:47 No no It's Part two is not The person that's running the gym Bro Dennis Rodman shows up at your gym You gonna tell him What fucking shorts he can wear
Starting point is 00:17:54 You right You can't And guess what This is my first time buying So it made me feel bad You know how it is When you're trying to be cool Cause I didn't have no Muay Thai clothes
Starting point is 00:18:03 I've been wearing just regular shorts Pull up. I never will wear their gym shit This is the first time I wore the gym t-shirt to the gym Yeah, this niggas like you worried about the wrong shit. You trying to look cool to do Muay Thai This is bad. You suck at Muay Thai and it's like bro. I join Muay Thai to get in shape So that's what happened. I like I said, I haven't been doing what I, I've been going to a normal gym just doing normal shit,
Starting point is 00:18:28 getting in shape, doing that. Well, that's good too, but they need to respect the shorts. There's this dude named Badr Hari.
Starting point is 00:18:32 He's still, still an active kickboxer, but at one point in time he was like one of the best in the world, if not the best in the heavyweight division
Starting point is 00:18:39 and he would fight like golf shorts on. I've been watching a lot of one. Oh, one championship? Yeah, Rod Tang.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Whew. That dude's a beast. I like that because they have the just straight Muay Thai fights and shit like that so I like watching
Starting point is 00:18:53 their shit. Did you see when Rod Tang fought Mighty Mouse? Yeah, Mighty Mouse whooped his ass. They had a mixed fight.
Starting point is 00:18:59 It was one round this, one round that. Yeah. Mighty Mouse fucked him up. Yeah, well,
Starting point is 00:19:02 Mighty Mouse got through the first round and landed some good shots. I look up to Mighty Mouse so much. Oh, he's so good. He's so good. Like, I look at, um, I know it's, like, weird. Like, I mean, because I don't, like, I mean, a lot of people feel like shit like race baiting and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:19:19 But you got to think, like, martial arts and, like, urban communities like it's not like it's not a fucking muay thai gym up the street right so for a person to be from the hood and be like man i want to you know get into that shit and get to fighting because niggas fight every day niggas do all type of shit it's actually i guess for the most part it would be boxing because i'm not easier to get into but like jujitsu is expensive because even even me, I can't lie, I was always like crunk. Like me being from Detroit, it's always was boxing gyms around. That I could, if I wanted to, I could have gotten to. Did you ever go into crunk?
Starting point is 00:19:53 Fuck no. No? Fuck no. Yo, look at me, man. I know, but just to look around, man, that place is so legendary. Let me break it down to you, man. Emmanuel Stewart, Tommy Hearns. It's different type of people in life man you get what i'm saying yeah you want them type of niggas you was always about the muscles and kicking niggas some niggas bro some niggas
Starting point is 00:20:15 don't care about this and all they care about is what the clothes yeah so i was always a fashion guy right like think about i get it you never was a fashion guy nope see. Like, think about it. I get it. You never was a fashion guy. Nope. See? Look at me now. I wear a fanny pack. Don't that sound fucked up, though? No, it doesn't sound fucked up to me at all.
Starting point is 00:20:32 No, because, no, I'm saying. I could get it. No, that's the thing. I could understand it. But that's the thing about it. It's like, people that work out, I got this muscle-ass body. I can take my shirt off and show you how I look. Right. And then there's certain niggas that's like, no, what that shirt you took off?
Starting point is 00:20:45 That was some bullshit. this shirt you took off That was some bullshit No, it's what I'm saying is just fashion But this is roots of fight. When you got muscles. This is an old smoking Joe Frazier. Joe, you're not even giving a thing. This is from one of his fights. When you got muscles, niggas don't care what kind of clothes you wear. I know, but to me, this is like artwork.
Starting point is 00:21:19 This is the advertisement for smoking Joe Frazier's fight from 1971. Shut up. Come on, man fight from 1971. Shut up. Come on, man. Shut up. Shut up. This would be a great vintage pickup for me. I will buy this. I will buy this.
Starting point is 00:21:32 So that was fashionable. I'll get it for you. We're not making it like that. But I'm trying to tell you, it's some people. It's people. No, it's people. No, I'm telling you. It's people in this world that are like, all I got to do, I don't have to look muscular.
Starting point is 00:21:46 All I got to do is stay this certain size to be able to fit this certain type of clothing. See, that's what y'all are, niggas. But I get it. I get it because there's people that work out. But they ain't working out to do that. They just doing coke and not eating. There's people that work out that also do that. They also get into fashion.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I just don't give a fuck. No, it sucks. I just don't give a fuck. I appreciate it. Like, when I see people that are into it, I appreciate it. I don't not like it. Like, when I see someone that has great style, you have great style. Brendan Schaub has great style. No, he doesn't. I think he does.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I like the way he dresses. I think it looks cool. I don't do it, but I he does. I like the way he dresses. I think it looks cool. I don't do it, but I like it. I like when people put a little effort in. I like it, but I don't put any effort in. No, because you got me. That's what I just told you. It's not because I have muscles. It's because I'm busy. And then you don't got waves. I'm busy.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I don't have anything, man. I don't have anything, man. I got bald, stupid hair. But no, but I like when people are into it. I don't see a guy who dresses nice and go, look at this fucking idiot. But no, I tell you, that is no. I think it looks good. What I was saying that to say is that's like a defense mechanism for a lot of people, where
Starting point is 00:22:56 they feel like, if I'm just good enough shape to look good in the clothes that I want to wear, that's good enough. I don't have to be muscular. Yeah, that makes sense. It's also, it shows that, like, this is what you care about more, aesthetics and style and cool shit, you know? Cool shit. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:23:15 You want to hit me with the fucking fire? Nice clothes are cool shit. That's all I care about. I know you do. But you know what's fucked up about me? I think where I'm at this point in my life, where I'm at, God damn it, Daniel, like, you got to grow up, you know what's fucked up about me? I think where I'm at this point in my life, where I'm at, God damn it, Daniel, you got to grow up. Because I lived my entire life as a teenager.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I would try to hold that back. If you and I were closer, I would try to tell you to not grow up and just stay who you are. You have to have money to not grow up. I think you could get both. I mean, I've done good by myself. I i mean i've done when i watch your pot but watch i know you have but when i watch your podcast i'm like this dude has a fucking hilarious podcast me and tom talked about it on the phone i called him up i go dude danny brown kills me i go i watch
Starting point is 00:23:56 that show all the time he goes he's so good and i go isn't it amazing that someone could just like jump into podcasting and but now i get it because you were always a fan of listening to podcasts so you were kind of talking you're kind of having those conversations in your head no you want to hear some other real shit too is my entire musical career it wouldn't been what it was if i didn't do interviews how's that my music is one thing you know what i'm saying but when you meet me and talk to me people like that more than they like my music i see what you're saying so like your personality goes along and it sells the music and then once you like me then you're like oh i like his music a little bit you know what i'm saying so i think that's what it that's the same for comics with podcasts
Starting point is 00:24:43 i don't know Oh yeah definitely I see a lot of Hated comics That get a lot of views And get a lot of Doing good for themselves Like Hate Watch Yeah
Starting point is 00:24:52 I don't know man There's a lot of Recreational outrage But I think For the most part Bro you got me high If you get better And you keep
Starting point is 00:25:01 Doing it Brandon Schaub had fire I like the way He dresses I think he dresses good Listen I'm got dressed. I think your dress is good. Listen, I'm wearing a hoodie. I fucking, I dress terrible. I like, but we did get dressed up.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I did a show with Tony Hinchcliffe, Brian Simpson, and Hans Kim at the MGM. Those are all my homies. Those are all my homies. We got David August to design suits for us. So there were custom made suits. You want to see this shit? Look at this picture. I'm going to show you something.
Starting point is 00:25:28 No, yeah, show me some shit. No, I did some. Listen, I'm not always gross. No, I never thought about that. I don't mean it that way. But I mean, most of the time, I just don't give a fuck about what I'm wearing. I wear what I like to wear. What looks comfortable for me.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Let me tell you like this. I like the shirt. If you was to hop on some fashion shit and show up with a crazy fucking gucci shirt on or something like that i would judge you way more than anything else you give it up of course then you're trying hard you know the thing is with me is it's fashion is about us being i mean we won't be in race in urban communities but you know they say like black people or when you broke, you don't got it like that. So you just want to kind of look like you got it like that. So being in the hood.
Starting point is 00:26:13 No, I completely get it. So, yeah. So being in the hood. That's with Italians as well. It's very similar with my family. So that's all it is. In my whole fashion, bro, fashion fucked up my school. Like, it fucked up my life.
Starting point is 00:26:25 How? Because I would skip school all the time just to go buy clothes. Really? Yes. Hudson's. Oh, see, it's not called Hudson's anymore. Oh, Hudson's, to what people would be, it would be Macy's. So Macy's had a clearance sale.
Starting point is 00:26:43 The clearance sale was happening on Tuesday. All me and my fashion buddies, we know, on Tuesday. Macy's having a clearance sale. We show up in front of the school like gangbanging, like we about to go do some ill shit. But no, we literally just trying to go buy a $40 polo. None of us have money like that. We all high school kids. The most somebody
Starting point is 00:27:05 probably have on them is $300 at the most. You get what I'm saying? But you can go Armani Exchange. I remember I caught an Armani Exchange t-shirt for like $25.
Starting point is 00:27:16 But when I looked on the tag, it was like $125. It's like, ugh. Like shit like that was like going back home like, ooh, I'm about to wear this tomorrow. I'm about to kill shit.
Starting point is 00:27:24 You get what I'm saying Yeah No one gave a fuck No one gave a fuck But it's just So yeah But even So the clothes
Starting point is 00:27:33 Represented something to you That was like unattainable Represented Cool shit That was Oh yeah Even now That people wanted
Starting point is 00:27:41 To this day Like me doing a podcast I still bring something from school. Like, if niggas want to watch the podcast, I haven't worn the same shirt twice. Really? No. So you thought. So I'm buying shirts every week.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Like, oh, fuck. Tell everybody, like, you thought the podcast was going to be tomorrow. And you had some shit prepared. Oh, no. I had an ill ass. Oh, no, I had an ill ass, oh, I got this ill ass fucking, part two, I'm glad I didn't because I feel like people would have seen that
Starting point is 00:28:09 and like, that nigga trying too hard. No, part two, so I think God did it for a reason. Maybe. Because I probably shouldn't have been on here like that because I did, I did. What were you gonna wear? No, I got this ill ass,
Starting point is 00:28:20 I got this leather jacket, a nude leather jacket, it got like spikes and shit on there. Will you please wear it the next time you come on? Oh, I'm coming back? Fuck yeah. You heard him say it. 100%.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I'm back, I'm back. Fuck yeah, 100%. But no, no, but I'm glad it happened like this because I actually was kind of stressed out about it. I do seriously enjoy people that dress nice. It's just, for me, it's like I enjoy flowers, but I'm not planting any. My dressing nice, I don't think you would consider it to be dressed nice. I don't know. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:28:54 That's us. Come on, son. We look good. Look at Hans Kim. Look at Hans Kim. Look at young Jamie with the fucking sunglasses at night. That's how high we were. Where was this?
Starting point is 00:29:07 Where was this? At the MGM in Vegas. Oh, shit. Vegas. Oh, Vegas. I have so many bad memories of Vegas. I never leave my hotel in Vegas. Really?
Starting point is 00:29:20 No, every time I've been in Vegas, I've just been there and I just do what I got going on. You gamble? Do you gamble at all? No, I don't gamble. But I do gamble to lose money. You want to lose money? No. That's the way I gamble. Oh, you gamble wild.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Yeah. With no intentions of winning. So let's just say, like, if I go to Vegas, I'll be like, all right, I'm going to get $1,000 out. Not just wild out with a little $1,000. Once I lose my $1,000, that's a wrap. I ain't doing nothing else. I played blackjack with my wife. We were in town for something, and we played blackjack for like an hour and i said all right i'm gonna i
Starting point is 00:29:49 have like 400 bucks on me i go let's just try that it was gone in like a half an hour i'm not i'm not even aggressively betting i'm just terrible i don't have any desire you know no that's the whole thing with me last time i was in ve. I fucking um, I'm like, all right It was time for me to go so like fucking let me just throw a little yeah, darling. It's time for the go Guess I'm gonna fucking hit No, then you're hooked You see what Drake's and I was in it look so listen this dick fucked up part of me I get it all I'll run it on a roulette table. I listen. This is the fucked up part of me. I get it all.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I run it on a roulette table. I run it all the way up to like 10 racks. I put 10 racks on one number. No. Oh, my God. Because I started with 100. So my whole shit was like, you know, whatever. So I put the 10 racks on the whole. Obviously, I lose.
Starting point is 00:30:46 They count on that that's the whole game so obviously i lose i lose the 10 racks i'm so pissed so i just leave i was just so pissed just leave out but i left my wallet my phone i'm over here at the airport now. Time to board my flight. Oh no. I don't got shit. Now I gotta go all the way back to the casino. I get back and guess what? My shit's sitting on the table. Right there. No one ever even touched it. No one ever even came to this fucking table.
Starting point is 00:31:18 So I get that. That's lucky. What you think I'd do? What did God do? What did'd do? What did God do? What did I do? What did you do? I was looking for revenge I had to go get that
Starting point is 00:31:29 You went back in I said fuck the flight Fuck the flight And went to the ATM Grabbed some cash Shut up How much did you wind up down? Oh, 5,000
Starting point is 00:31:38 Isn't that crazy? Know how many stories Vegas has like that? No, and that was How you do this? And that was broke for me That ain't no real money You know how many stories Vegas has like that? No, and that was... How do you do this? And that was broke for me. That ain't no real money. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Put it at the top of it. Oh, shit. But yeah. You got me. They got you. They'll get you. The only thing that I like to bet on is fights. The other side.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Flip it to the other side. And then pull that thing down, that black thing. And if you put the one that's on the top, the little switch. Yeah. Just pull that down. Pull it down. There black thing. The one that's on the top? The little switch? Yeah. Just pull that down. Pull it down. There you go. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Yeah, I mean, that's the reason why they're so big. They're not big because they lose money. These fucking giant places run out of juice. Yeah, I'll fill that thing up. My bad. It's just I've met too many people that were uh gambling addicts you know i used to play a lot of pool and i was always around these dudes that were like hardcore gambling addicts they would gamble on pool they would gamble on playing poker they would all do
Starting point is 00:32:37 off-track betting because in new york you could gamble on like horse racing and carriage racing you could gamble on so many different things so the pool hall was where all the gambling junkies hung out gambling scares the out of me only thing i ever gambled we just shoot dice to what shoot dice oh she dies yeah yeah in the bathroom man yeah gambling's exciting but it should be legal the idea and that's cool. Gambling's exciting. But it should be fucking legal. The idea that it's not legal in some places to me is so stupid. I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:07 sports gambling. This is one of the things that's, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's fun. Sports gambling is fun. I hate to say it,
Starting point is 00:33:16 man, but the Adesanya fight, I knew he was going to lose. How could you say that? He almost won. Just his eyes. He was three rounds down. I ain't going to lie. Or three rounds up, rather. Just his eyes. He was three rounds down. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Or three rounds up, rather. Just his eyes. His eyes. What? Something about him when he was talking. Come on. And I swear, this is me. His eyes.
Starting point is 00:33:33 This is what his eyes were. No, this is me. And I bet on a lot of fights, and I win a lot. Yeah? And. But I would say I bet against him on the Cannoneer fight, so I was. Well, that's a risky bet, too. Yeah, that was a little.
Starting point is 00:33:45 But I thought I was trying to come up. I was trying to come up. But this fight, I just kind of felt sorry for him, kind of. Like, I knew it. Like, just his eyes, the way he looked. Something about the way he looked and the way, even when he walked out, just something in his face to me, I was like, man, this nigga about to lose.
Starting point is 00:34:03 And I wanted to call all my homies and be like, man, bet against us. But I didn't want to lose people money. So I just kept my shit to myself. And I was like, but I honestly felt to myself like this nigga about to lose. This is what you're seeing. You're not seeing that he's thinking he's going to lose or that he's scared to lose. What you're seeing is the magnitude of the guy he's about to fight. And that's, you can't change that.
Starting point is 00:34:23 It doesn't change how a man performs once he's under duress and stress, but you can't ignore the magnitude. And if you ever go back and watch Mike Tyson fights, this is where you see it the best. When dudes were walking into that ring to fight Mike Tyson, they looked like they were being executed.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah. They were going to their death. They were getting arrested. They were getting processed. They were getting processed. They had this look in their face like, fuck. Are you saying Israel ain't had that look on his face to you? Israel definitely did not have that look on his face. What he had a look on his face is an understanding of what that fucking guy can do.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Of what could happen. That guy, Alex Pahetta. But I never seen that from him. I never seen it. Because that guy's already knocked him out. That guy knocked him out. I know. I've seen it. I've seen it. I've watched all that seen it. Because that guy's already knocked him out. That guy knocked him out. I know, I've seen it. I've watched all that shit.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Bro, that guy's a fucking destroyer. You've got to understand, like, people are looking at him beating Izzy, right? But you don't understand, nobody even touches Izzy. Nobody touches him. And Pajero just put him away. Izzy fights Jan Bohovic, who is the light heavyweight champ. No, even, no, him beating Romero. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And then him beating Costa. Yeah. And then fucking Whitaker. Bro, the Paulo Costa fight. Paulo Costa is a fucking marauder. Bro, that nigga don't even need to fight. So jacked. He just started OnlyFans.
Starting point is 00:35:44 So good looking. Just started OnlyFans. So good looking. Just started OnlyFans. But that fucking dude just marches people down and smashes them. He marched down Yoel Romero, and he didn't even touch Izzy. He didn't even touch him. But that's how good Pajero is. He's that good. No, I'm definitely terrified.
Starting point is 00:36:01 But see, that's one thing. That's what I was saying. Me just fucking with the Muay Thai class and shit. Dude, I was trying to warn people. Because a lot of times, I get drunk. I talk shit. Of course you do. I talk shit to people.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Now imagine talking shit to a guy like Tejeda. But no, not even that. Imagine talking shit to a fucking nurse. Fucking secretary that been taking Muay Thai for three years. She's easy with us. You don't even know this bitch do anything. And that's what I seen. They actually had
Starting point is 00:36:25 a stamp fair tech. She actually did a session. I mean, a thing at our gym. Oh, wow. And just even seeing her and how small she is and that,
Starting point is 00:36:34 like, bro. Yeah. Bro, I'm good. I'm good. So, I mean, it humbled me. I will say that. Well, it's just a little bit
Starting point is 00:36:42 of reality check. The thing is, we live in Texas. Yeah. And all these niggas got guns. For sure. Everybody got guns. So it's like, what is, you can't even, listen, no one is ever saying that martial arts are better than having a gun. No one's ever saying that.
Starting point is 00:36:59 What I'm saying is, just for your own head. Yeah, just do it. Just for your own head, it's good to know how to fight. So if someone gets crazy with you you just go okay last time i was in the gym they was like well we need to you know he's talking about that kind of kind of man i can't fight nobody they're gonna sue me you don't want to fight somebody but what i'm saying is somebody wants to fight you that's why you got guns yeah but if you don't get to the gun it's just a good thing i'm gonna have it on me.
Starting point is 00:37:25 It's just, I believe you. And especially since we're here and you can have it. It's a good thing to know. So it makes sense just to have a gun. Yeah. Especially as a black man in America. Do you believe that a well-armed society is a polite society? No.
Starting point is 00:37:38 No? Not at all? No. Because just me being able to travel and going to Europe and shit like that where guns aren't a thing. And I see how well-behaved people act because of that simple notion. Like, right now, like, what I talked about, like, going to Muay Thai, how much that humbled me. And being that. But at the end of the day, I should never have that feeling anyway.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Right. No one should have that feeling. But only reason why I have that feeling because I know guns exist. And if I have a gun on me, you can't say shit. I don't give a fuck how much of you. I'll shoot you bitch. Shut the fuck up. But now in
Starting point is 00:38:07 over those countries it's all about brute strength. Right. It's knives and you know what I'm saying? The knives thing. You gotta be rich to have a gun.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Yeah. And we over here we got motherfucking niggas over here making 3D printed. Yeah. I can get a 3D printed heater right now.
Starting point is 00:38:22 They're making ghost guns. Shoot same way. Yeah. But it makes sense they can 3D printer heater right now They're making ghost guns Shoot, same way Yeah But it makes sense They can 3D print everything now They make fake Rolexes They make fake Rolexes That are exactly the same as a Rolex But you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:37 They do that There's like a whole market They can make a gun easy It's right because of anything But a replica of a gun still kill you Oh yeah A replica of a Rolex No, it's a real gun it's a real gun so yeah they can and they can 3d print them wasn't there a guy that like invented this shit a long time ago and there was like some big
Starting point is 00:38:55 controversy about it he was showing people how to 3d print guns like on youtube or something like that no it's still going on i know i know i know I know but wasn't there a guy that was like one of the first guys that was censored off of YouTube am I miss remembering this I may I may be I might be misremembered it but I remember when that shit first started happening where they were making 3d printed guns and people like this is insane like we have to stop this and they're like well there's no law that can stop it it was like I guess it's state by state No, no, um, yeah Go piss and come back Danny Brown
Starting point is 00:39:40 Freshly drained No, yeah, I'm a bad. No worries. i do it all the time i up coming here too much water in me like no that's all it was i've been drinking no because i've been on this um i wake up at like 5 00 a.m and i'm yeah no but i'm a sleeper yeah i'm already sleeping so it's not like what happened was you know i talk about that on some workout i'm just actually one of those guys that do that so then like I'm like man maybe I should take advantage of that shit yeah so now I wake up at like 5 like yes I do I wake up at 5 because I never was like a workout person and but now I can get so much shit done but my girl even work
Starting point is 00:40:17 up like 10 when 10 a.m. come is like oh my bitch you don't even know I'm dead did I gotta watch the dogs and shit and go to sleep and shit but yeah so so now i've been just taking advantage of being able to wake up that early you wouldn't know but i think that's come from stress type shit yeah to be on where you just don't feel good sleeping um just working on music i think because he oh i was just talking about actually you know who was just here? Fucking Hannibal. Hannibal was fucking here. I was doing my fucking show.
Starting point is 00:40:50 I wish I would've fucking knew he was here. Then he just showed up. And I was like, man, you might as well come over here with us. But he had to leave. But no. I forgot. I forgot what that was. But no, Hannibal.
Starting point is 00:41:02 No. We were talking about. Oh, no. Oh, I was just telling him that I feel like when, you know, y'all as comedians and shit, y'all make specials. It's like instant gratification and that shit. Because y'all could do. Y'all. I mean, I know y'all worked on a special for years and years.
Starting point is 00:41:16 But then y'all actually do it in front of a live audience. Even though the audience know it's a special. I mean, it is what it is. You know. Have you thought about doing specials? I know you're doing a little stand upup no i'm not not at all i killed no now i mean i go on there and i have fun and shit but but didn't you stand didn't you do like a minute on kill tony no you never did nothing but um you only just sat as a guest yeah okay but now i'm starting to take it serious because all y'all motherfuckers keep telling me I'm funny.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I know what it is. It's Tony. Tony was telling me that he's trying to get you to do it. No, everybody keeps telling me that I'm funny. And they're like, you can do it. That's, I guess, what I'm talking about. But, you know, the thing is that I'm a nerd about is the writing aspect of it. Good.
Starting point is 00:41:59 So I love to write. Even me writing songs. Like, I always say this all the time. Like, I probably, I don't know. I mean, I'm better of a writer than I am a rapper. You know what I'm saying? Danny, you're a funny dude. I mean.
Starting point is 00:42:13 You 100% could do stand-up. You just like the way you approach music and the way you now have approached podcasting. You could do stand-up. No, no. See, that's the thing about it. Just the fact that someone like you tell me someone like time hanging with tony so it's like i'll be a dickhead to not try you have to try not to do you should do it the whole shit in the beginning was like man i bombed that
Starting point is 00:42:37 rap for like 20 years why would i want to stand on stage and try to tell jokes and buy me? Go through that. But then I actually started thinking about it, and I'm like, maybe this is like a second caller in my life. I think it... This is why I think it is. On your show, you have hilarious stories, and you got a great way of telling them. You just... You have a great way of telling stories.
Starting point is 00:43:01 It's fun. It's funny. No, that's the thing that I love about doing it. You can just translate... Because I'm having fun right now you can translate that to stand up that's you watch Tim Dillon no I love Tim Dillon that's what Tim Dillon does he does that rant on his show he's the best ranter alive he does these rants and then he takes chunks those rants and they become bits like that's how you come up with material it's like what you're doing is next to our neighbor to
Starting point is 00:43:24 stand up yeah see that's the thing too cuz you material. It's like what you're doing is next to our neighbor to stand on. Yo, see, that's the thing, too. Because you can't always be like, see, I was always that guy. I was funnier. You can be the funniest guy at the family reunion. But that don't translate on stage. But, Danny, you know how to be on stage. See, you know how to be in front of the camera. See, you're saying it doesn't translate on stage.
Starting point is 00:43:42 No, no, no. Even in front of the camera. You're saying it doesn't translate on stage. No, no, no. Even in front of the camera. You're saying it doesn't translate on stage. But that's just like your funny uncle who can't go on stage at an open mic night. Because he's fucking nervous. That's who I am. But you're not that. Because you're not nervous.
Starting point is 00:43:54 You're not nervous doing your podcast. And you're not nervous when you're rapping. No, I'm not. So you're not nervous in front of people. No. But you tell stories in front of people in front of the camera. And they're fucking hilarious. You're not nervous doing that.
Starting point is 00:44:07 You're not. It's not the same thing. I think you know one thing that I'm scared of is that I respect comedy so much and I know it's like, it's almost gatekeepy. It shouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:44:19 That's good. But do you understand what I'm saying? I respect it, but it's not really gatekeepy. We let it, we really do let it. Let's imagine, okay, let's say tomorrow, if I'm saying? You respect it, but it's not really gay comedy. Like, if I'm- We let it- We really do let it. Let's imagine-
Starting point is 00:44:25 Okay, let's say tomorrow, if I'm just like super good with comedy, like, comedians will hate me. No, no, no. The dumb ones. And I want to be friends with people, too. Listen, bro, they're not going to hate you. The ones that are going to hate you are idiots. Like, comedians-
Starting point is 00:44:38 The idiot comedians will hate you. This is like Royal Rumble. But if you're good, you're good, man. Being a comedian is like being in a Royal Rumble. Who don't throw each other off the first, you know what I'm saying? Even now with podcasting, having a beef with another comedian, like driving you views. So now I already see, nigga, before we know it, nigga, it's going to be like podcast, comedian beef. It's going to be like rap songs and shit.
Starting point is 00:45:02 We one step away from that. Yeah, well, that's always going to happen with some people. Some people just love to get mad and talk shit about people. It's like their favorite recreation. But that's the way they get the views, and that's the way it drives shit. But you don't have to participate in that. No, no, no. But what I'm saying about you.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I'm not going to participate in that because you're going to figure out if this Muay Thai works. Nigga, come on some podcast talking shit about danny brown nigga i ain't coming back on no podcast talking about you what i'm trying to say is there's you have zero fears about being gatekeeped people are just going to want to see if you could do it i've been there go have fun people already love you from your show they love you from your mom's house they love you when you guest on kill tony you you you just do it, no, that's where I'm at now. Because you got to think, that's a total 360 for my rap career. It is and it isn't, man.
Starting point is 00:45:52 I don't even, Joe Rogan, I don't think you know. It's your creativity. It's your creativity. It's your mind. My rap career is a total different world than what this is. Of course. My rap career, I would say, what made that bad is that I started a little too old. So I didn't really get recognition or, you know, until I was 30 years old.
Starting point is 00:46:15 And you got to think, I've been trying to do this my entire 20s. So when I started to be a rapper, get recognition for it, I had a bitter attitude towards it. You get what I'm saying? Because it took so recognition for it and being that i i had a bitter attitude towards it you know what i'm saying because it took so long for it to happen that happens and then now i'm 30 years old it's a 30 year old rapper it's like how the the it's like a ticking time bomb at that point like how much time you got really so i'm already in my head. Like, I will say, a lot of people say, like, being a rapper is dangerous, like, you know, because all the killings and shit. But I would say being a rapper is dangerous in the sense because once you do it, you can't do nothing else. It ruins you. How so?
Starting point is 00:46:59 So let's just say, okay, let's just say I was a rapper and then it failed. Then I got to go get a normal job. But I had minimal success. You saw my video somewhere. I had a couple views. Now I'm working at a job with you. Now you're like, oh, you, blah, blah. So that, everywhere you go, somebody, you.
Starting point is 00:47:22 That's true if you're an actor, too. So you always recognize. That's true if you're an actor too So you're always getting acknowledged For your failures But that's true with anybody in the public eye So just imagine, every time someone Recognizes you, they're acknowledging Your failure
Starting point is 00:47:34 That hurts It hurts Of course it does But that's what happens In all walks of life. Anytime when you fail and people get to shit on you, and if you're a public person. If you work fries at McDonald's, no one cares.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Don't you remember Gary Coleman? Gary Coleman from Different Strokes? He started working as a security guard, and people would just shit on him relentlessly. Imagine that. Because if he was just a security guard, no one would care. You would never walk up to a security guard and go look at this loser you're a security guard that's exactly what i'm saying so it's the same thing with actors so me being danny brown i can't
Starting point is 00:48:12 never go back to being i can never go back to being daniel danny you don't have to first of all and don't and don't even think about it don't even think about it you don't have to you're never gonna have to do that I know what you're saying But you can't think about Like worst case scenario And dwell on it like that You are of personality And a personality can do
Starting point is 00:48:36 Anything it wants to do You're a fun guy I think about that And I love that too Because you gotta think The last album I put out Was 2019 Yeah you were saying that And that was You're touring infrequently And I love that too. Because you got to think, the last album I put out was 2019.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah, you were saying that. And that was... You're touring infrequently. No, I worked on that album with Q-Tip. Just to be able to work with Q-Tip was such a fucking big deal to me. For sure. And, you know, it gave me confidence in my music. To be in the fact that A Tribe called quest was my dad's favorite rap group i remember going my dad taking me to fucking preschool i mean i'm preschool it wasn't that
Starting point is 00:49:13 early but whatever whatever but elementary school my dad taking me to school and he listening to a tribe called class and before i know it one day i'm sitting in the studio with q-tip every day working on an album. So it was fucking, it was a big deal. You know what I'm saying? It was a big deal for me. And, you know, we made that album. And I just think the world of music have changed so much. Where like a 10 second TikTok beat means way more
Starting point is 00:49:46 than you putting out a single you understand what I'm saying? like that whole shit changed so the way I grew up the way I grew up like me my favorite rapper is Nas and Nas just put out a new album and that album is fucking amazing
Starting point is 00:50:03 and you know why that album is amazing? It's because Nas is having fucking fun. And Nas is able to make music without any fucking... You gotta think... Well, Nas is really rich. Like, he's got a bunch of different businesses. It wasn't always like that, though. No, but I'm saying, like, right now, if he's doing rap right now, it's because he wants to do it.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yes, but it wasn't always like that. He had the whole situation of what he went through oh yeah with his divorces yeah yeah yeah it was all public yes he's the best lyricist ever
Starting point is 00:50:31 in my opinion he's his fucking shit is so complicated the way he does things backwards what's that one song where he does backwards
Starting point is 00:50:38 rewind that's a brilliant song you wanna have this bro we don't wanna talk about this just for me Nas is like and I've had the opportunity to meet Nas That's a brilliant song. You want to have this coming? Bro, we don't want to talk about this. Just for me. Nas is like... And I've had the opportunity to meet Nas a lot.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I wouldn't say a lot, but he knows what he means to me. You get what I'm saying? Yes. Actually, he wanted to sign me to his label. I didn't sign to him because I mean whatever I mean money man money money the other contract was more money man I can that's what it is but sometimes I think about that did I make a mistake but like damn just because the artist that I looked up to my entire life that made me be a rapper tried to sign me.
Starting point is 00:51:27 And I didn't sign with them. All because of money. And now, I'm not saying I feel any way about being with Warp. I love Warp. Warp is, you know, they've done. Part two, Warp has made me a better artist than what I actually am. How's that? Because like, OK, this even like the album that I just I made album during COVID.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Obviously, we were sitting around when nobody could do nothing. And I just felt like, oh, shit. So I just started going to the studio and just started recording songs, making music, record album. And this is the album that we're going to release but the album been done for like three years like you know and well what's been the hold up you don't know so so on them that's what happened when you signed the record labels oh jesus bro you want to hear bro all right you want to hear it? Bro. All right, you want to hear it?
Starting point is 00:52:28 All right, let me give you my rundown story. Three years? I might need another drink. I think you need another drink. I might need another drink, yeah. All right, so check this out. Denny Brown. Being a regular rapper from Detroit, whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:42 All right, whatever. Cheers, sir. Thank you. Cheers. I'm not even going to go into Tony Ayo and G on it or all that shit. Just to get to the point. So I remember being at a festival in New York at the time. It was called CMJ Festival, which was like cool.
Starting point is 00:53:04 It was like, you know, same thing as South by Southwest, but it's in Texas. That's what it was for New York. they had this festival cmj festival and at one of these shows they had um at brooklyn bowl fools go records through a show and kanye showed up and it shut the whole down like and i couldn't go i couldn't get in i was like and to me i was like man fools go records like man they like the illest shit like if i could ever be cool with fools go records like uh whatever i can do to be down with fools go records i would do you know what i'm saying type of shit so then shit goes on years i end up I ended up getting in a situation. I started talking to Foosgoat. And I don't think they were really into signing me at the time.
Starting point is 00:53:59 But Q-Tip from A Tribe Called Quest was real close with A-Track, who's one of the owners of Foosgoat. And they hung out and A-Track was like, man, we thinking about signing Denny Brown. And Q-Tip was like, nigga, thinking? Are you retarded? Like, this is one of the illest
Starting point is 00:54:16 things. He broke it down to him like, what makes me so ill? Which I can, we can talk after. That has to be nice. No, I'm literally like super ill. Like, when it comes to like rap, like it's like cheating. Like I'm like steroid. Like it's super ill. Like I can cheat.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Like it's super ill. So then he was like, fuck it. Yeah, I'm going to sign it. Because so then I already knew I was going to get signed to Fool's Go. We already had this to each other. So there's no negotiation on what the shit was. So I was going to interviews already. Like I would do an interview and they'd be like, what's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:54:50 And I'd be like, oh, I'm signing to Foosgoat. So, boom, to say that, we signed a contract. I signed for $5,000. Literally, $5,000. And it was South by Southwest happening the next week. And I had like two shows. So I literally spent the entire signing bonus at South by Southwest the next week. So I had no money.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Super broke. Whatever the fuck. I'm living off my girl. You know what I'm saying? Like her banking on me making it as a rapper kind of situation. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. banking on me making it as a rapper kind of situation. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. We do whatever we do.
Starting point is 00:55:29 We get that. But then the album comes out. And at the time, no one really thought about the album. I would think no one. I did. But at that time, no one thought that the album would be like a big deal. End up the album come out at one fucking
Starting point is 00:55:47 album of the year in Spin Magazine it end up being one of the best albums I ever had in my career but when you think about it it's like a person
Starting point is 00:55:56 back against the wall when you listen to the album I'm back against the wall right and the whole concept of the album is you know rap music is all about being young 20 year olds the whole album Right And The whole concept of the album is You know
Starting point is 00:56:05 Rap music is all about being young 20 year olds The whole album The album is called 30 This is an album about a 30 year old rapper Just now starting to get a break And how he feels
Starting point is 00:56:18 You know Yeah So yeah And The album did good It did good Congratulations It did good It did good. Congratulations. It did good.
Starting point is 00:56:26 It did good. I'm saying not like sales-wise or anything like that, but culturally. It did good. It got recognition. So I was able to get a lot of shit from that. And, you know, I got a lot of deals and signed a lot of shit. And then my next album after that was old. It was called old. But that charted Billboard. signed a lot of shit and then my next album after that was Old it's called Old and
Starting point is 00:56:47 but that charted Billboard but it was a lot of money like I spent like it was a lot of money spent in that I say that to say this
Starting point is 00:56:55 okay as me as a kid from Detroit got good at rap alright I know how to rap
Starting point is 00:57:03 a record label signs me I rap for a record label signs me I rap for this record label make album in my head as when you start to make music you want to be as experimental and to be us much as point you don't understand is the thing called music business. So you're not thinking about business. You're just thinking about art. I'm just trying to make
Starting point is 00:57:27 the best, me, Illmatic was the greatest album I ever heard in my life. So to me, it's like Illmatic and other one is
Starting point is 00:57:36 Cannibal Wags, Covang. Like, so to me, it's like, I'm trying to make albums to mirror those. I'm just trying to like,
Starting point is 00:57:44 as me as a rapper, as an artist or a musician, just trying to, shit that I was influenced by, try to make a piece of art that could stand next to that. You know what I'm saying? But at this point in life, that shit don't matter no more because there's too much money to be made behind this shit. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't care about this shit and then now
Starting point is 00:58:06 so do you think that by trying to make something that stands next to that somehow or another you'll lose money definitely how come because time change time changes how the shit that we liked in 1994 we don't like it in 2004. I still do. I think there's a lot of people that still do. But we got to think about the kids. Dude, I still listen to Cool G rap. Have you listened to Playboi Carti? No.
Starting point is 00:58:34 See? Well, I don't listen to anything. Playboi Carti. I can't know everything. I don't have enough time. Bro, Playboi Carti can shut down this whole shit. I'm being honest with you. Can we play some of it?
Starting point is 00:58:47 Can we play some of it? We can play some of it, right? You probably. What? Which? No. No? No.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Why? Just some. See, look, I'm going to be a hater now by saying no. But no. No. No. We're not going to play no playbook. Why?
Starting point is 00:59:01 Because this is my Joe Rogan interview. Okay. I don't know about the fucking game playbook. Why? Because this is my Joe Rogan interview. Okay. Let him know about the fucking game of playbook. It's not going to hurt you if he gets a little love. All right. You just gave him some. Playboy Cardi does not need no love. I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:59:16 We'll play that. We'll play a little of that just to educate me and educate the people that are listening. And then we'll play. Play Playboy Cardi. Give me a Danny Brown track. No. Give me a Danny Brown track that you give me a danny brown track that you like i definitely don't want to hear your mind after this play playboy cardi stop breathing
Starting point is 00:59:30 bro you don't get it i don't get it help me out my music is like stand-up comedy in essence oh you want to hear some of my uh stand-up comedy rap sure we'll do that we'll do that we'll have the uh bitch only thing you gotta know my dick touch the ground when i'm sitting i'm gonna flow see that's the thing about rap like um you know me i was into comedy and so i took my whole shit from comedy the way i were wrapped so what i would do i would just sit around and write punch lines all the time so i write punchlines all the time. I write punchlines.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Think about this. Look, I'm about to give y'all niggas the game. It's 16 bars of verse. It's four lines, four verse. Let's just say if I sit around, I listen to a Joe Rogan episode. Someone says an ill punchline on there. Uncle Joey, he might say some crazy shit like you get what i'm saying just some crazy shit a line just one line i can take that one line it's four it's 16 bars so one
Starting point is 01:00:32 line could create four bars so every line i get four bars so i need four lines to give me a 16 16. Hmm. Yeah. I don't know. No. The first time I ever did coke was Coachella. How long ago? What Coachella was this? I mean, it had to be a long-ass Coachella. What was it? And guess what? It wasn't by, I didn't ask for it.
Starting point is 01:00:57 It was, what happened was, okay. At this time, listen. At this time, I was dating a girl. And she was bi. So she wanted to have a girlfriend. She's like, pick my girlfriend type shit. So I found her girlfriend, and I found her, and it was the type of bitch. They loved each other.
Starting point is 01:01:16 They kicked with each other. They went on fucking vacations and all type of shit. They did all type of shit together. And then I'm playing Coachella. And it's a good time but the bitch that's my girl partner is that coachella i don't know i didn't know that my girl hit me up like oh she in the crowd boom boom me being a real nigga i thought i'd do myself like fuck it i just bust out i just bust into the crowd try to look for finder give me her number but i'm walking through the crowd like a normal person like
Starting point is 01:01:51 trying to find finds her we kicking it we went to watch sufian stevens you know sufian stevens oh man so good carolyn loyal oh man whatever whatever went to go watch sufian stevens and Le'Veon Stevens. Oh, man. So good. Carolyn Loyal. Oh, man. Whatever. Whatever. Went to go watch Le'Veon Stevens and I guess because of who I am,
Starting point is 01:02:11 she just thought I did coke before. But I never did coke. And she just was like, ugh. She already had it and just hit me. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:21 So, she's just in my nose already. And she's like, oh, yeah, man. I was just like, uh. How was it? It's the best time I've ever had in my life. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:02:33 I've never done it. Dude, I avoid Coke. That's sad. It's not sad. It is. Maybe it is sad. It is. But it's not sad to me because I've avoided it successfully.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I mean, you can have done everything you've done already and still experience that. sad it is maybe it is sad it's not sad to me because i've avoided it successfully i mean you can done everything you've done already and still experience that when i was in high school i had a very good friend his cousin i get it his cousin sold coke and his cousin like wrecked his life with coke i watched this dude become a vampire i get it but you could have did it and still be who you are right now maybe nothing maybe what do you mean you you're gonna get it and still be who you are right now. Maybe. Nothing? Maybe? What do you mean? You're going to get lit and jump with the coke? I don't know if drugs that make you more confident are good for me. I like drugs that make you less confident. That might be some shit.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I like drugs that make you feel vulnerable. That might be some shit because that's all I like. I like drugs that make you feel vulnerable and give you more of a sense of community. With the DMT and the mushrooms? I like mushrooms and I really like marijuana. Even that, I did so many mushrooms. All right, even this, okay. But you know what I'm saying about drugs that make you confident?
Starting point is 01:03:39 Yes. So I did. So I did the whole whatever hit me up about the mushrooms and like whatever
Starting point is 01:03:50 so I bought a quarter pound of mushrooms Jesus don't tell the people that's a lot I did it in like a month
Starting point is 01:03:58 that's a good amount of time it probably changed a lot at the end of that month it may be worse worse how so cuz I don't know it's just me taking the mushrooms I mean I did it bra I did a lot I tried out because I make
Starting point is 01:04:16 you worse because I was clean at that time you know everybody talk about how mushrooms could keep you from drinking it when I started doing mushrooms, for some reason, it made me tell me that drinking wasn't bad. Like, you can drink. You can handle it. Then I started drinking. Then I started drinking. Then they said, I know. I'm doing coke again.
Starting point is 01:04:36 I'm doing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I blame it all on mushrooms. Because I was clean as fuck before I started doing the mushrooms. For how long? Months. Like two months. Two months is my limit.
Starting point is 01:04:54 After eight weeks then it's fucked up. There's a thing that does happen when you do mushrooms. It alleviates some of your anxiety. And maybe some people have some anxiety about addictions. Like maybe they're not over it and they still have anxiety about it and mushrooms Alleviate that anxiety sometimes but what is an addiction man? Like what would make you want to drink or make you want it like it's a weird thing that no
Starting point is 01:05:17 To me all right, and I can say that for my I don't know of any people Addiction for me is an escape. I've been through so much in my life, and even this and that, like even now, like my fucking aunt passed. And it is what it is, like man, I will say, man, like that's what I try to tell you about me and my music career. Because it's like my family, they look at me like I'm the richest motherfucker in the world. And if I can tell them that, no. Have you ever heard a Danny Brown song on the radio?
Starting point is 01:05:55 Have you ever seen a... No! But to them, you gotta think. Detroit. Just the fact that I've made it in music and I'm someone this and that I should be I
Starting point is 01:06:07 And I don't I don't have it I can be the first person to take Like Music Put me more into debt Than if I didn't do it Do you get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:06:21 Yes Like so My first Album that I had Well not, my first album that I had, well, not saying my first album, but with Triple X. With Triple X, they're good, and they gave all these people, boom, boom, these artists, they're good. And then I did Old, Old They're Good, did that, boom, boom, boom. They charted Billboard, boom, boom, boom. So, now I was a free agent at that point.
Starting point is 01:06:43 So, now I had these record labels, all of them courting me. I signed to Warp. Warp gave me a fucking damn near quarter million dollar fucking budget to make an album. What do you think I did? Spent it all? Spent every last. Nigga, before you know it, I was asking for more money. nigga before you know it I was asking for more money
Starting point is 01:07:03 so I went crazy made a fucking quarter million whatever the fuck spent all the money I could possibly spend on this fucking album to make
Starting point is 01:07:14 the best pop album that I make and now this album has been made I'm not I don't feel bad about it have you
Starting point is 01:07:24 that's great when you when you get a spare time to yourself fuck yeah atrocity exhibition it's can I play it right now
Starting point is 01:07:33 no that's the Jonah Hill he shot one of the videos oh he made a music video for it yeah really Jonah Hill yeah he shot the video for the second single, Ain't It Funny.
Starting point is 01:07:47 I talk about that all the time. Even shooting that video was such a fucking crazy situation. So was Jonah Hill the director of it? Mm-hmm. That's amazing. Nigga, he was the budgeter. No one wanted to shoot. Can we play it?
Starting point is 01:08:00 Oh. Here? All right, go live. Physical attention from older men makes me feel validated. I'm empty inside. Oh, Uncle Danny. Gus Van Zandt, nigga! Look. She just did the Kevin Hart commercial
Starting point is 01:08:37 When you ever seen the rap video look like this How did they get Gus Van Zant though? I'm smoking meth. Danny, I love it. No Daniel lovers Ain't it funny how it happens? Ain't it, ain't it, ain't it funny how it happens? Ain't it, ain't it, ain't it funny how it happens? Ain't it, ain't it, ain't it funny how it happens? Ain't it, ain't it, ain't it Ain't it, ain't it, ain't it Ain't it, ain't it, ain't it Danny, look down from there. Why are you doing this, Danny?
Starting point is 01:09:45 I've been destroyed. And if I'm destroyed, maybe I'll feel okay. None of us feel okay. Oh, Uncle Danny. Jesus Christ, Dan. That shit is amazing. So, yeah. That's amazing. That shit is amazing. So, yeah. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:10:07 That's really good. I've been doing cool shit. That is so... What year was this? 2019. Yeah, don't show anybody this, bro. 18, 17. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:10:17 But no, that's the thing. So, being a musician, being a rapper... Well, it's not just that. It's like all the visuals. I mean, it's very disturbing and very crazy and very funny. But being artistic,, being a rapper. Well, it's not just that. It's like all the visuals. I mean, it's very disturbing and very crazy and very funny. But being artistically, but that's artistic freedom. But you don't get props like that no more for that kind of shit. You're gonna.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Trust me. It's really good. When I'm dead? No, man. Does that count? Tell me you haven't gotten more people paying attention to your music now that started doing podcasts fuck no no fuck no no let's see what happens after this one all right let me know what happens after this one i don't know i don't know it's not i don't see so would you know like would you know in terms of like streamings and downloads no yeah yeah definitely
Starting point is 01:11:02 because i'm super on it but no the thing is about is that um, I Just don't judge it like that I look at it like what I've done good To what you think like that's good. I like that. No, that was amazing. Yes. No, I'm Super proud of that good beautiful. So now is what I'm doing next. There's I'm trying to tell you like the new album that I have Beautiful. So now it's what I'm doing next. This is what I'm trying to tell you. Like, the new album that I have.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I'm going to talk about it. This is going to happen. Look. It's called Cuaranta. What does that mean? 40. Oh. In Spanish.
Starting point is 01:11:42 That album you listened to was Triple X. 30. 30. Yeah. So, Cu Triple X. 30. 30. Yeah. So, Cuaranta. I like it. Oh, it's so good. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:11:52 It's so good. What is it coming out? I listen to that album every... Oh, I don't know. Hopefully this Joe Rogan episode... Hopefully. ...makes it happen faster. Why have they been holding on to it? What's the hold up there's
Starting point is 01:12:06 no discussion i don't know you haven't gotten any response have you had a conversation about see how it happens being oh no so that's what is it so you know what it made me independent now you know what it made me you know what it made me feel like it made me feel like maybe they're not happy with the album so So I should make more songs. So I've been making songs and constantly making songs for like the past two, three years. And now I get the actual final track list and what the album is going to be.
Starting point is 01:12:36 And it's, bro, it's nothing. I've been wasting my time making all these new songs. And it's new songs that I love, i want to you know to be out on this but it is what it's but when i do listen to the album that they picked and they i realize why they are a record company and this is their job you know and you think they did a good job oh amazing job well that's beautiful sometimes you Well, that's beautiful. Sometimes you need an editor, right? No. Exactly. Yeah, you need someone else to look at it.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Exactly. Because I'm not about to even talk shit about them and be bad about it because they do. Yeah. Hey, we're Apex twins, man. Apex twins, bro. Yeah, you need it. Everybody needs an editor. The thing about comedy is it's beautiful because the audience is your fuck music man i'm trying to be with your niggas man
Starting point is 01:13:30 for real well listen daddy you're already doing it you're doing your podcast i need a tight five minutes you could do five minutes easy you want to do five minutes tonight what you got something for me yeah i'm at the creek in the cave yeah Yeah. Okay. You think I'm joking? No, I don't think you're joking. No, I'm not joking either. I'm not joking. Don't play me, bro. Danny, look at me. Don't look like I'm joking. I mean, this will be testing to make me do it. Yeah, let's do it. Five minutes. Not hard at all, man. You'll get killed. We'll talk about it afterwards. If you got some ideas, you want to bounce around. 100% you should do it yeah let's do it five minutes not hard at all man you kill we'll talk about it afterwards if you got some ideas you want to bounce around 100 you should do it i don't even matter you do it bombing don't even matter you're not gonna bomb you're funny you're a funny dude man it's a matter of finding out how to do that on stage and i don't think it's a long journey for you i think for some people it's a long fucking journey there's some people that are like quiet you know i think the only thing that probably
Starting point is 01:14:25 May get shorter because I've been rapping You've been rapping You've been performing on stage And you've also been doing a podcast where you're funny That fucking podcast is hilarious You going to Creaking Crave tonight? Tonight I'm pulling up
Starting point is 01:14:37 That's right Let's go Danny Brown If you're gonna impress me like that I will 100% you're gonna do it tonight Five minutes? Yeah, five minutes. You're going to have fun. It's going to be beautiful.
Starting point is 01:14:49 I'll put you in a good spot. I'm just going to think of what I've got. All right, what time is it? No, for real. Yeah, we're good, dude. Don't worry about it. It's 3.13 now. The show tonight is at 8 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Danny Brown, we're going to have some fun. I'm going to try it. You should about it. It's 3.13 now. The show tonight is at 8 o'clock. Danny Brown, we're going to have some fun. I want to try it. You should try it. You know, it's a thing that you do. You get your feet wet, and then you're going to want to be really good at it. I've done it. You're going to get obsessed at it. I already did it.
Starting point is 01:15:17 I've been there. I know how to talk on stage, and I just don't have a routine. Yeah. Well, like I said, five minutes is not that long. I just need one subject. Yeah, but if I can get my five minutes. You can get your five minutes. You can do it.
Starting point is 01:15:36 I'm coming tonight. You're all serious now. Look at you. This shit is serious to me, bro. I get it. Serious right even you all right uh i did my rap shit just being a rapper and so much and being a rapper but i remember as a time and being a rapper and like um when they when your teacher asks you what you want to be when you grow up and i would say being a rapper and everybody would laugh at me and then so it got
Starting point is 01:16:04 to the point i'd be like i didn't say a rapper no more i said a comedian i'm like i want to be when you grow up. And I would say it being a rapper, and everybody would laugh at me. And then it still got to the point where I'd be like, I didn't say I'm a rapper no more. I said a comedian. I'm like, I want to be a comedian. You know what you are, Danny? You're Danny Brown. It doesn't mean shit what label they put on what you do. You could do anything you want.
Starting point is 01:16:19 You could do music. You could write a fucking book. You could do podcasts. No, that's actually what I'm doing. Thank you for saying that. So I'm working on a book right now um i wish i could say you don't have to say it but you're professionally danny brown that's what you are that's what i do that's my job i'm professionally joe rogan that's why i have shut the fuck up and let it rock. Yes. Be Danny Brown.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Be Danny Brown. Just shut the fuck up and let it rock. Be Danny Brown. No. Don't worry about labels. No. Fuck all those labels. Fuck that. Let all those other idiots sort that shit out.
Starting point is 01:16:56 He's a rapper. But now he's a comedian. No. Get the fuck out of here. You want to hear that? You want to hear some real shit about that though? Yeah. That was another thing about that though.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Where me being in it and I feel like a lot of, they didn't fuck with that shit. Comedians. Yeah. I'm telling you, they're not good. They don't. The ones that are good don't think like that. I just told these niggas, bro, to me in my head, comedians, everything with that shit is Royal Rumble.
Starting point is 01:17:20 It's Royal Rumble. Yeah. It is a little Royal Rumble, but it doesn't have to be. Like, the guys The top level And especially If you're not in that Mix
Starting point is 01:17:28 A person like me So me A rapper They don't wanna help me Or do anything Everybody hates me But comedians don't No
Starting point is 01:17:38 That's what I'm talking about Yeah we don't do that We help each other No I'm saying I got my friends Like I got Tony David
Starting point is 01:17:44 Like you know You know Tom I mean that's my I work for them niggas So I don't do that we help each other i got my friends like i got tony david like you don't sound like this um you know time i mean that's my i work for them niggas so i don't even i don't even look at them as friends no more you gotta look at him as friends he loves you no no no no and that's my big homie i tell you when i called him up and i told him how much i like your show he's like he's so funny i'm like dude it's it's such a surprise show like i enjoy your show a lot it makes me laugh do you want to hear about my show that's the thing that i want to keep it i don't want to get it to the point where i feel like it's overproduced well you don't have to this isn't overproduced there's one guy in here and all he does is press buttons and pull shit up and give his opinions
Starting point is 01:18:21 all right and mostly but in our heads in. But in our heads, in our world, in our world of outside looking in, we look at this shit as like the biggest produced podcast. Yeah, but it's not. It's the biggest
Starting point is 01:18:33 skeleton crew. I go to places and there's like fucking 10 dudes behind a glass wall fake laughing and pressing buttons and shit.
Starting point is 01:18:38 It's terrible. Fucking terrible. No, I'm not. No, because you made it You said it This is literally what it is Yeah This is it
Starting point is 01:18:49 But this is what it's supposed to be But that's what I was telling you about You could do your show On FaceTime You could just point Your fucking camera at you It doesn't matter No no but
Starting point is 01:18:58 It's what you say It's who you are And what you say No no no But I still I owe something to time Oh yeah for sure No they're amazing I don't wanna make no moves Without them You know what you say. No, no, no, but I still owe something to time. Oh, yeah, for sure. No, they're amazing.
Starting point is 01:19:05 I don't want to make no moves without them. You know what I'm saying? No, you shouldn't. And they'll be with you 100%. So if I wanted to do something outside of that, then I would want them to still be involved in it. If you were doing something with some, like, fucking fake podcast network, you know?
Starting point is 01:19:23 What do you mean a fake podcast network? I'm with the real shit. I know, you are. You are. Which is what I'm saying is great. But if you were with a- They're like, there's some networks out there- Why?
Starting point is 01:19:32 Why do I need to be with any of that? I'm not saying you, man. What I'm trying to say is your situation's amazing. But there's other people out there that get into a bad situation. And they get locked into these companies and they find out these companies own 50% of their podcasts forever and like what the fuck like with no
Starting point is 01:19:49 investment like there was a lot of shady people that got involved in podcasting when I never I never looked at podcast for like a money type of situation well the problem is right now I see that now, I see that, yeah. Some companies do. No, now there's a lot of money involved in this shit, but I just... Because I feel like me showing up like me right now, talking to you, I would do this for free.
Starting point is 01:20:17 I would do it for free, too. That's the beauty of doing a podcast. So I feel bad that someone would would pay the problem with these like what i'm saying about these podcast networks is they're not really providing anything if a pot i mean they might be providing production they might be providing a studio but without content they don't have anything and if they're taking half of it and you're creating the content which can happen that's a crazy deal and then they own it forever yeah that's our whole tip is forever forever get the fuck out of here and i've seen those deals before and i've also seen a lot of comics when they're getting signed to like agents
Starting point is 01:20:54 and like kind of shitty manager types the manager type will try to take a percentage of the podcast too so they own a piece of your shit as long as you're doing it. So that was the whole shit that I'm trying to tell you. Like me doing what... So doing it at your mom's house is perfect. No, no time. He told me like, he like hit me up like, you got the talent to do like a podcast. But I'm like, if I would have did it on my own,
Starting point is 01:21:18 I wouldn't be talking to you right now. You might be. But the point is you haven't. You did it with them, which is perfect because they'll support you 100%. I moved to i know i see like i was serious about this shit yeah it's beautiful that's a good situation bro but tom's like tom and christina are beautiful people bro they're the best what are you talking about about? I wouldn't have did it if it wasn't them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:46 And their situation, like having that studio, it's all so professional. All the people that work there are funny. A lot of funny employees, too, man. They're hilarious. Zolo, Sasa. Oh, no, I got all of them in the Muay Thai gym. Oh, really? Zolo, Chad.
Starting point is 01:22:00 All of them. See, now I can't. Oh, man. I feel bad because I got them all signed up to the Muay Thai gym. Now I'm about to switch gyms. Maybe they'll listen to this and take you back. No, I already told them why I'm switching gyms. I already told them.
Starting point is 01:22:15 For disparaging your shorts. No, we already told them. We already told them about why I'm switching gyms. Part two. They're happy with the gym. They're going to settle. But, I mean, I'm going to Tim Planet Okay
Starting point is 01:22:29 You should learn some Jiu Jitsu I know Just do Jiu Jitsu Only thing I have I have a I have a bad feeling of Jiu Jitsu Bad Yeah
Starting point is 01:22:41 How come? Cause I was with a girl I was with her we was together for years and shit and I used to go on tours for like months
Starting point is 01:22:50 it'd be months and I had like an ill ass big ass house in Michigan and shit and I used to feel sad about her like she be in this house
Starting point is 01:22:58 she be by herself shit is kinda not safe I put her in Muay Thai class not Muay Thai Jiu Jitsu I put her in Muay Thai class Not Muay Thai, Jiu Jitsu I put her in Jiu Jitsu She start going to Jiu Jitsu, she got good at Jiu Jitsu
Starting point is 01:23:11 So this maybe a year Go by, boom This bitch looking at me crazy Like I can't even talk to her Every time I'm done, it's like She muscle flexing Like, she got So now I'm done, it's like, ugh. She muscle flexing. She got that.
Starting point is 01:23:31 So now I'm living in a house with this bitch that I'm putting in jujitsu class that look at me every day like, I could beat this nigga up. Like, why? She don't have no, you know what I'm saying? She don't even care nothing about what I talk about. So whatever. I did that. I mean, whatever'm willing to what we went through and it got to the point it got so far to the point she got so
Starting point is 01:23:50 far to jujitsu she was teaching a kids class really well she's busy got a six-pack ripped and guess who her boyfriend is? It's Danny Brown. She come home every night. So I think, I think that's what ruined our relationship. Because it was me. So she come home and look at me, and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:24:14 damn, you fucking them G2 niggas, bitch. What you doing? You sit a muscle bound ass niggas at class and shit. You come back to the crib with me, I'm a regular nigga. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:24:25 So, yeah. But we split up and that happened. Yeah, it could be an uncomfortable situation if you date in a woman that could kill you.
Starting point is 01:24:33 Yeah. And I think that's what happened. Because there'd be times where we're having a little conversation and I could just see her. She's funny.
Starting point is 01:24:39 She's like, nigga, I could whoop your ass, my nigga. Like, why you? And you know what it was? I put her in jujitsu, on some shit, being in Michigan and in Detroit.
Starting point is 01:24:52 And at the time, like, you know what's happening with L.A. too, where all the people are fucking robbing, like, when they see, like, celebrities, he's not at the crib. Like, I don't know if you know but like last week nas we talking shit about now yeah they broke in nas crib so they look at and they see when you have to do shit and you're not home they're breaking so in la is like there's a thing and i'm shush up nigga I'm Danny Brown so I know
Starting point is 01:25:25 I got I got tabs and all that so yeah they break it in every nigga house bro I'm telling you if you got a house
Starting point is 01:25:33 in LA yeah they gonna LA's a wild spot now it's crazy how quick that swing I feel sad cause my my little homie
Starting point is 01:25:44 Zalupris, my group, now he just moved to LA. And he's been out there for a few months. And he's been doing his thing. He's been getting work. He just was in the last Da Fushi video, shit like that. You know, so I can't. It's one of those type of situations where I can't tell him,
Starting point is 01:26:02 you shouldn't be out there. Because he's getting work out there. Right. You know what I'm saying? But it's dangerous, man. It's not the same LA. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:17 It's a lot different. Didn't Denise Richards' car got shot? Shot? Some road rage incident. Someone shot at Denise Richards' car car but what she do though what she do though i mean you said a road rage accident yeah what did you do did she cut him off like that like what'd she do though i think it was like suv and they got out of the car i don that someone had shot the back of their car. See what that is? Denise Richard, but what's the other,
Starting point is 01:26:49 see her and the other bitch that finessed the shit on the college, the college tuitions. Oh, she wasn't involved in that. I know what you're talking about. You talking about that, the scam where they were
Starting point is 01:27:01 getting their kids into college. Denise Richard, but what was the other bitch? I don't know. See, that's how you know black people are racist too. Look at this. Pfeiffer's was chauffeuring the actress 51 to a film studio when the male driver behind them got irritated that we're having a hard time finding the place, TMZ reported. TMZ reported the outlet claimed that Pfeiffer's left let the upset driver, who was allegedly shouting at them while trying to squeeze in front of the car, pass them.
Starting point is 01:27:32 That's when the driver allegedly shot at Pfeiffer's and Richard's vehicle, striking the back end of the driver's side. TMZ obtained a photo of the bullet hole. Hold up. Go back up. Don't try to finesse that. Go back up. Denise Richard's husband shoots a lot of her OnlyFans content. He knows what guys like. Do you think?
Starting point is 01:27:59 That's what I saw. I didn't see nothing else. What you talking about niggas shooting? Right. Only thing I saw was Denise Richard's husband shoots a lot of her OnlyFans content. He knows what guys like. Yeah. You think it's a scam?
Starting point is 01:28:13 It could be a scam. No rest. They don't have photos of anybody. Did they have a description of the vehicle? Bring all their attention to the OnlyFans. Yeah. Damn it. We got sucked into it Danny Brown
Starting point is 01:28:25 I'm not I'm not bro I'm not that nigga but we pulled it up bro I'm not that bro I swear to god
Starting point is 01:28:32 I see what's going on that makes sense when you get into that world of taking photos only thing I watch on YouTube is wave wave 360 tutorials it says the outlet know that Pfeiffer's 50 stayed with the Real Housewives alum as she powered through and worked for 12 hours.
Starting point is 01:28:54 For now. What? Worked for 12 hours doing the OnlyFans stuff? See, this is the shit that fucks me up. Is that what you're saying? See, Joe, this is the shit that fucks me up. Did I know? Because we don't, I don't think about this shit.
Starting point is 01:29:05 But this shit is a lot of money involved. Yes, there is. Danny, I got to pee. We'll be right back. All right. Danny Brown, ladies and gentlemen. Five minutes tonight. Five minutes?
Starting point is 01:29:17 Oh. Don't forget. You going to make me do it? No. No, definitely not going to make you do it. No, not make me do it, but. If you want to do it, you definitely can do it. Where are we are we going creek in the cave are you going to creek in the cave tonight for real no i'm saying yes for real who gonna be there um tonight duncan trussell
Starting point is 01:29:38 tony he lives here yeah duncan lives here dun Duncan lives here now. You should do his podcast. No, he need to do my podcast. He should do yours too. They made a clip of Duncan and I, all the different costumes we've worn. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to come. You're not going to lie? No, I'm not going to come. Why?
Starting point is 01:30:01 If you put me in the hair. No, I'm not going to put you in the hair. You should just come. It'd be fun. Why? If you put me in the hair... No, I'm not going to put you in the hair. The hair... Just come. It'd be fun. Danny, that feeling is the... You know, when I first got on stage, I almost didn't.
Starting point is 01:30:12 No, see, see, this is the difference. You already said it. Why? It's no big deal about me getting on stage. I can get on stage and talk shit, but whatever the fuck. But the thing is, the friend group that i'm starting
Starting point is 01:30:25 like i don't want to disappoint y'all you're not gonna disappoint us no one gives a shit it'd be funny i'd rather bomb i'd rather bomb and like be trash in my own presence and not around y'all it'll be funny if you bomb come on No, it has See, that's what y'all wanna see No, Danny, I wanna see you kill Me bombing Dude, I think you'll be funny I think you'll enjoy it
Starting point is 01:30:53 I think it'll be surprisingly fun for you You know what's fucked up, though? About comedy? What? Nigga, five minutes is 30 minutes Five minutes is a long time Bro, I did it I did it with Hannibal
Starting point is 01:31:03 No, you know what's fucked up? Hannibal been hitting me up all week. Actually, that was the first person that actually ever told me that I could ever do something in comedy. Now I used to be, you know, my rap shit and do whatever. And I would do festivals. And out of nowhere, Hannibal Buress would just show up backstage. So this ended up being my friend. Like, boom, whatever, Hannibal always show up.
Starting point is 01:31:32 He's my friend. But one day I was backstage, and I was just talking shit. And I was talking about, you play Mario Brothers, right? Yeah, I have. Yeah, Mario Brothers. And I was just like Mario's like a home invasion rapist he's a plumber why is he kicking in castle doors down still in princesses when did you know princess had anything to deal with
Starting point is 01:32:03 plumbers and then you remember back in our day it was his name was king cooper really you remember king cooper mario brothers was king cooper the actual boss was king cooper oh i never got that far but that's what i'm trying to tell you it got so weird that they had to change his name to be Bowser. He's Bowser now. Bowser. Because they don't want to make you feel like. Think about it.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Why is a plumber kicking in doors to castles? You got to think. If you play Mario Brothers 3, you kill every kid he has. You just kicking doors, throwing fireballs. Bitch, boom, boom, boom. Bitch, uh-uh, take this and then you make it all the way to the princess who said this nigga named king cooper right she the princess you just a plumber you just kicking in those you killed every last kid he had and took his bitch. The bitch never said
Starting point is 01:33:08 she wanted to go with Mario. He's a player. Didn't his brother Luigi? Luigi ain't had nothing to do with nothing. He just was... If you play with Luigi, legs kick all rear.
Starting point is 01:33:20 You can't beat no game with Luigi. If you play Mario Brothers 2, when you're picking the fucking Rutabagas that's what I call it picking Rutabagas you throw him whatever but I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:33:33 at the end of the day Mario Brothers was home invasion rapist and they trained a lot of kids into a lot of shit that we weren't supposed to be into what do you think things like modern warfare like when people are playing these Modern Warfare games? See, I don't play any of those, yo. But do you think the people, when they play those games, like Urban Warfare games, they're very popular, right?
Starting point is 01:33:58 What's the big one? No, a new one came out. Yeah, Modern Warfare 2. So Modern Warfare is the big one, right? Is there more than one of those? There's another one, like Fortnite, similar style of game, but you're doing way different stuff the whole entire time. But Modern Warfare is basically like you're at war.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do I think? I think you gay. No, no. Are you going gonna play games And like shoot niggas And like being fun And have a shoot
Starting point is 01:34:27 That's not fun to me Like I My favorite video game That I play is Persona Persona? What is that? Shit It's about
Starting point is 01:34:39 Some teenage kids That went to school And the murder happened And we gotta figure out The murder Oh, so it got to figure out the murder. Oh, so it's a puzzle game? It's like 21 Jump Street. Really?
Starting point is 01:34:50 Yeah. This is it? Oh. Oh, so it's like anime? Yeah, it's so good. Joker, that's Joker. So you're like living, like you're playing the game as you're a character in this anime? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Oh. It's so good. That's cool. And you only playing the game as you're a character in this anime. Yeah. Oh. It's so good. That's cool. And you only know the story unless you beat the game. There's a lot of games now that you have to go on a journey. So if you love, if you got caught up into the story and you love the video game, it's going to make you beat the game to know what happens in the story. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:21 So Joker. But I've been making look, look, Joker, sexiest. But they've been making look Joker sexy as fuck. They've been making look. You got to do all type of shit. But yeah. Interesting. There's a lot of games now
Starting point is 01:35:34 where you, you basically, you're going on this like hyper-realistic journey. It's not as simple as just going and pressing things and shooting things.
Starting point is 01:35:43 No, no, no. These games will take your life away. No, no, no. These games will take your life. No, now the best games are those. The best games are those. That's what I would say. Like, um, personas and, uh, I mean, I'm more so into sports games. Sports games? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Yeah. Me, I'm, um, NBA 2K. That's what I was just talking about with Hannibal NBA 2K is like the nigga version of the metaverse and we just don't know that yet they've been they've been training us to get adapted to
Starting point is 01:36:18 oh shit metaverse they've been training us to get adapted to the metaverse have you fucked with any VR Have you done I've done all of it Yeah what do you think about it
Starting point is 01:36:28 I'm just I may be too old for it Like just having something On your head I mean It's not Actual what happens To content that I see
Starting point is 01:36:40 It's just actual Just having a thing Over your face Yeah Do you think that As it gets lighter it get more easy to accept yeah of course but as of right now sunglasses as of right now it's nothing that's not you know i'm saying like putting that yeah putting that no it's still fun i love vr i
Starting point is 01:36:58 i can i've done all the beers bro it's only one time the v VR? You played that? No. The Arkham? Oh, bro. I've only played a few VR things. The things that are really good to me are the shadow boxing ones. Because you're having a boxing match against this robot. Just because you say that, play the Batman. Yeah? Batman on a...
Starting point is 01:37:16 Oh, you, like, do shit? That's what made me... That's what fucked me up on VR. That's why I don't fuck with it no more. Because that was... It got too deep. Really? I thought I was Batman. They just put out Iron Man. You can be Iron VR. That's why I don't fuck with it no more. Because that was, it got too deep. Really?
Starting point is 01:37:25 I thought I was Batman. They just put out Iron Man. You can be Iron Man. It's pretty cool. Oh, wow. It got too deep. You put your hands back and you fly. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:37:38 For three days, I played, bro, for three days. Oh, man. I beat it in three days, but I thought I was Batman for them three days. I'm talking about, so day day number two ain't no bitch could talk to me. The first day when I started it was like ugh.
Starting point is 01:37:51 But day number two when I was fully fledged nigga I was Batman. Wow. I love I ain't gonna lie I love that's the thing
Starting point is 01:37:59 I love about video games is that I be able to escape and to go to a whole nother world this and that and then but um i think that's now where shit are starting to with metaverses and shit is starting to collide a little bit it's definitely colliding it's that's inevitable that us going into some virtual world is inevitable and it's
Starting point is 01:38:27 probably just a natural progression of what consciousness does when it can control technology to a certain point probably gets to a certain point then it creates an artificial technology just how long is it going to take is it going to take 100 years before we're all doing it or 200 years but we're going to be plugged in like i think think it's three years it might be i don't know three years is all metaverse but the the metaverse itself i was reading something about uh how meta stock is down because of all this investment in the mega metaverse right isn't that what's going on that could probably also be because like their metaverse is different from what everybody else wanted they They're trying to make their own thing, corporate version. I just told y'all.
Starting point is 01:39:07 That's what I was talking about with Hannibal. The nigga version of metaverse is NBA 2K. If you play NBA 2K, my nigga, bro, you make your own character. Whatever basketball player you want to be. Like, I want to be 6'6", 250. I want to play for Orlando Magic then you on that team
Starting point is 01:39:29 then you playing it like everyday like literally playing like what game they got to play today like you're on it like to the point where you're you're mental like even now like I play 2K games like oh and I watch the real game that happen like ooh I got to play that game tonight
Starting point is 01:39:44 like you get what I'm saying like real shit like that so they're so good right now and they're gonna be so much better as addictive as they are now imagine how addictive games are gonna be in 20 years or 30 years like it's like 20 years ago man they were like blocky looking everything games are not gonna I feel like then that's gonna be gonna figure it out. It's gonna be I Mean But it's gonna be real Real life like us do it's gonna be podcast video games and I'm not My mouth wasn't in front of
Starting point is 01:40:22 The mic the right time when I see said what I had to say when you click the button and that's what see I'm giving them too much game so make it be I swear to God it could happen no it could nigga it's going to get this game the power wash simulator people just power These are my homies. This is my favorite game or Washington clean stuff Bro you made this up. You already know hold up Joe a job you would never want Joe Joe the truck simulators. He already knew this This all I've been talking about my pockets for the past. This is all I've been talking about on my podcast for the past. This is all I play.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Really? The best game. You play this? Power Wise Simulator? It's the best game, bro. Of the year. It's the best game of the year. Do you know how crazy that is, though?
Starting point is 01:41:16 Like people do this? They'll drive. No. Fake simulate drive a semi truck. Go to my Twitter right now. Power Wise Simulator. Hit me up because I told them like bro How is when I finish the entire level and then it's like two it's like two
Starting point is 01:41:35 It'd be like some dirt under the table, but there's a simulation of driving a truck down an empty highway Oh, what's wrong with people that know? people by real giant Your person that will get into video and you love it. Look, look at this. Farming simulator. Farming simulator, putting out fires. So what is this? Farming.
Starting point is 01:41:50 The guy gets in the truck. No, not fire. Farming. Oh, farming. Farming. We building crops. Oh, my God. You're building your entire land.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Look at this. It's not real. Oh, it's trucking. This is a truck simulator. Yeah, fuck the truck simulator. It's like the car, but- Because they ain't got no lizard locks. It's not truck simulator. Yeah, fuck the truck simulator. It's like the car, but... Because they ain't got no lizard lots. It's not about speed.
Starting point is 01:42:07 It's about dropping shit off. How is a truck simulator real with no lizard lots? So is this... Lot lizards, yeah. Is this how... Is this how they're teaching this guy to drive? And I'll be honest, the video I just clicked, that could be this, but I was just trying to find someone's crazy simulator setup.
Starting point is 01:42:23 But no, I'm being... Because look, this is a game... No, what what we did we just hopped on the simulators for everything they're playing these simulators drug dealer simulators my favorite drug dealer simulator like you own your own dispensaries and shit you got to be on dispensaries and look just the video that needs to be playing, Joe. I'm sorry. I get it. No. Truck driver video games. If you thought about a monotonous job. More specifically than farming is Weed Farmer. Weed Farmer is a Weed Farmer game with fake water.
Starting point is 01:42:56 But what is the original one? The realest one is the airplane one. Oh, yeah. Flight Simulator is real. Oh, you don't fuck with that? I feel like that's some shit you don't fuck with that I feel like that's some shit you don't fuck with I don't fuck with video games
Starting point is 01:43:07 but flight simulator they get me too much you don't think you can fuck with that I get addicted to them for some reason I think that would be like
Starting point is 01:43:15 if I would think like like who I'm selling this video game to to me that would be like flight simulator I would think it would be you Hinchcliffe does these
Starting point is 01:43:23 he's fuck no yeah he does yeah he knows a lot about it like he was talking to a pilot about engines That would be like flight simulator. I would think it would be you. Hinchcliffe does these. Fuck no! Yeah, he does. He knows a lot about it. He was talking to a pilot about engines and all kinds of different things. Part two, me and Tony. Tony does these all the time, these flight simulators. Yeah, he's really into it. All right, all right.
Starting point is 01:43:39 I used to play this game called Quake. You seem like a type of nigga that'd be. One-on-one video game. You'd be finessing on RuneScape. What's that? What's RuneScape? You mean Escape Room? No.
Starting point is 01:43:52 No? What's RuneScape? It's a game. It's just James. Bro, you already know. What is it? What is RuneScape? Oh, RuneScape.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Oh, so this is like some fantasy type shit. We're going to stop. I'm going to cast a spell on you. Come on. Can we stop? Look at this. You thought I would be into this? You thought I would be into this? Let's? We're going to stop. I'm going to cast a spell on you. Come on, can we stop? Look at this. You thought I would be into this? You thought I would be into this?
Starting point is 01:44:08 Let's get back in real life. Now I'm insulted. I was fine until now. Now I'm like, what the fuck happened? RuneScape? Yeah, what is that? Bro, these niggas been finessing and been making so much money off RuneScape a year. Oh, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:44:20 People make money off all kinds of things. That's not cool. For real. No, I'm being honest. Like. That's not cool. For real. No, I'm being honest. That's not cool, man. The RuneScape, how it happened. I'm sure it's awesome. No.
Starting point is 01:44:36 See, that's the thing. I wish I was on the other side of the fence. Yeah, let me get some of that. Why do you wish you were on the other side of the fence? Because I ain't getting none of that RuneScape money. Oh, I see what you're saying. So RuneScape is just super popular. But it's a game you love?
Starting point is 01:44:51 Do you like it? Why would you think I'd be playing it then? You're shaking your head no. Somebody, I thought you was a RuneScape type man. For some reason. No, I ain't gonna lie. I'm sorry. I get scared of those,
Starting point is 01:45:06 is that like a role playing game? Is that what that is? Looks a little like it, yeah. Don't cut this out because I feel like people would know, but like damn, they will get what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Like damn, Joe seem like a room skate type of nigga. Looks like a little bit of like World of Warcraft kind of. Those games, those games are insanely addictive for people.
Starting point is 01:45:28 Those World of Warcraft games or what was the other one that existed the big one before that? Starcraft? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:34 That's not like it is it? Yeah but there was Starcraft is more like a strategy. Starcraft is coming next right? But there was another game There was another game
Starting point is 01:45:41 that Duncan got sucked into. Was it World of Warcraft? No. He got Duncan got sucked into. Was it World of Warcraft? No. He got, Duncan got addicted hard to one of those fantasy games where you're like in, like there's a lot of other people and you're doing tasks together and
Starting point is 01:45:57 shit and you're in the forest with elves and shit. What's the Switch? Starcraft, yeah. I guess that's what it was playing, I think. Is that what it was Switch? StarCraft, yeah. I guess that's what it was playing, I think. Is that what it was playing? No, man. Animal Crossing. I know he played World of Warcraft, too.
Starting point is 01:46:13 Is it Animal Crossing? I just feel like there was a game that was like, maybe it's World of Warcraft. I don't remember which one it was, but it was one of the first of those games where people just kind of lost their life to. There was a dude who was the manager of the comedy store, and this dude's face was pale. What is it?
Starting point is 01:46:33 Duncan playing it. Yeah, well, he definitely has played StarCraft. Yeah, so, no, StarCraft is not. God, there was another game, man. It's on the tip of my tongue. Anyway, this dude brings. League of Legends or some shit? No. Fucking, I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Where are you? But it was just, he was so sad he was so addicted he and he was like i'm so good at making money in the game and so bad at doing it in real life i'm like no that's crazy but that's the thing like these have been selling cs gold skins and shit like these have been millionaires a video game yeah right because uh it's scary you can sell some of the stuff that you earn in the game, right? It's scary. With real money. It's scary. Yeah, that's pretty wild.
Starting point is 01:47:09 So, see, the thing is for me in video games, a lot of people look at me like I'm a super gamer, but I play the game in a sense to review them. Oh, really? Yeah. Just to review them? Yeah. I play games because I don't want to tell people that I think something is trash, that I didn't have nothing to do them. Oh, really? Yeah. Just to review them? Yeah. I play games because I don't want to tell people
Starting point is 01:47:26 that I think something's trash that I didn't have nothing to do with. So I would play, like, everybody be like, oh, this shit tight.
Starting point is 01:47:34 I play and be like, I will tell you what, I don't, you know? Like, right now in the new game, I can't even really think of the name of it, but the game is,
Starting point is 01:47:43 it's an independent game, but the whole game is about starting your own cult. So you start your cult and you know, so the whole shit is about,
Starting point is 01:47:57 you know, running a cult. So that's the whole new video game I'm into. I don't, you know, if you think like
Starting point is 01:48:04 Modern Warfare, Call of Duty type thing, inspires people to shoot people. I don't... You know, if you think like Modern Warfare, Call of Duty type thing, inspires people to shoot people. I wonder if like starting a cult would inspire people to start a cult. This is it? Honey, I joined a cult. Cults 101. This is the game you're playing? Yeah. Oh my god. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:48:20 How many people that are in a cult think they're in a cult? No one. Part two, I want to start a cult. Do're in a cult no one part two I want to start a cult do you yeah where would you do it I feel like New Mexico's your spot oh where would I do it did Detroit that's right yeah if you if you can make it there you can make it anywhere I won't know weak bitches in my coat yeah you want cold weather cults but no when, when I think about it, I could have started a fucking cult in Detroit. Them bitches don't care.
Starting point is 01:48:49 What would you base your cult on? Sex. What you bitches going to do? But what's the trick? How do you get them to join? Like space shit? Spiritual? What are you going with?
Starting point is 01:49:04 Who going to get the dick? I mean, how hard are you going to work for it? I mean, if some bitch is like, oh, you going to let me pee on you? Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. Jesus. Tandy Brown. So the pee on bitches.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Maybe you should start your own game. No, this is the game. See, this is before me, before I was a one-woman man. See, now I love my girl. We together. But this video game thing, like this cult thing you do, at least it's like cartoony, right? It looks cartoony.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Oh, yeah. See, that's the one thing about it. Yeah. It's not realistic. That would be a creepy fucking game if you started a realistic cult but they all they all lead to people fucking right i think that's the funny ever a cult that see this is where it comes with me and um i think that's the only thing that's funny people fucking i mean how do you make jokes about shit, that's where I'm at with comedy. Like, I know I make rap songs and shit.
Starting point is 01:50:07 You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know. See, the thing is about making rap songs and shit is, like, you can be as cool as you want with rap songs, but it's cool as hell to rhyme words. Yes, it is. You know what I'm saying? Yes.
Starting point is 01:50:24 Like, you can rhyme words that sound cool and it's just like oh all right you know and i have nothing to do with fucking comedy or nothing but it's funny yeah and so now you're telling me to get on stage and be funny without the rhyming funny words yeah but you're already doing it when you're doing your podcast. You're telling funny stories. Because I tell stories and shit, but I don't know. What do you mean you don't know? I'm just here.
Starting point is 01:50:55 But you don't have to do it. You don't have to do it tonight. If you want to do it in the future, you can prepare for it. No, see, this is the thing about it with me. I've been a rapper my entire life. And that was God told me, oh, you're going to be a rapper. Try to be a rapper. And try my best to be a rapper and rap as much as I could.
Starting point is 01:51:18 But who knows? If I grew up in fucking some weird suburb, and I wasn't a black nigga. And rap wasn't just a thing around me. What I've been doing, comedy. What I've been doing, what I've been playing the guitar or shit like that. So I feel like when they talk about 100 hours, I only think I'm good at rapping because I did 100 hours. You mean like 10,000 hours? Oh, yeah, the 10,000 hours.
Starting point is 01:51:47 My bad. 100 hours. Everybody's like, damn, that's all it takes? Yeah, but 10,000 hours. Yeah. Oh, I definitely ding over 10,000 hours when it comes to rap. Don't you think that's the case with anything? I think that's probably the case with everything.
Starting point is 01:52:00 To get good at it, you got to really put in time. So that's what we're talking time so that's what we're talking about that's what we're talking about yeah so i think you have a head start because i think some of your hours already count so it's like you're transferring your education from a different school so me doing this podcast i'm gonna do the podcast and then just hang around with someone time like time i look at like time is like i look up to him like, you. I look at y'all guys, like, in a total different light. And then y'all be like, oh, you can do this shit. You can do this shit.
Starting point is 01:52:32 And I'm like, ah. It scares me a little bit, man. You know what I'm saying? It's supposed to scare you. It's supposed to scare you. Because I want to do it because. Because you want to do it well. And you got to look at it like this.
Starting point is 01:52:43 Let's just say, I'm a a rapper i haven't had the most rap career like i don't i fucking i don't get grammys i don't sell records like you get what i'm saying yeah like i've every album i put out has sold less records every time. And then you know why is that? Why? Because I never, you know how they say, like, a person, like, if you don't change anything that you do, you're, like, retarded. Like, you know, insane. Like, every album that I made is the same album in some sense.
Starting point is 01:53:21 But I'm just tinkering with what I thought was bad the last album and just trying to make a better album with every album. So I'm not going over means. You know? I'm just trying to beat what I did last time.
Starting point is 01:53:38 Right. And I do it every time, which is great. So what are you trying to say? That's not enough. That's not enough. That's not enough. Why is that? In the world of rap music, what are we dealing with?
Starting point is 01:53:52 You know? I just gave you that whole theory of that. No, I get the theory. I'm the Patrice O'Neal of this rap shit. Can you be independent as a rap artist now? Is it possible to not be involved in a record deal with a company? Yeah. If you believe in yourself that much,
Starting point is 01:54:10 but we need the money from the record companies to make us keep going. So that's what the record companies are doing. They're providing the initial investment that gets you going. Yeah. But at the end of the day, when they give you the initial investment, all they do is just tie you in.
Starting point is 01:54:25 So let's put it like this. Okay, Denny Brown. No one, I didn't have a record deal. I made all this shit off my own shit. Boom. Made one of the illicit rap albums. I get all the crazies. High, because my whole shit was about reviews.
Starting point is 01:54:43 You feel me? It's not what people say about when you go on Metacritic. because my whole shit was about reviews. You feel me? It's not what people say about when you go on Metacritic and you see all the reviews add up. What that review add up. So my whole shit was about as long as I get a high score in Metacritic and, you know, whatever. As long as I get high. I don't have to sell records because 10 years, 20 years, whatever.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Motherfucker can die and they're going to Google what was the best reviewed albums in 2022. And they're going to see Danny Brown. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. So my whole shit was that. And I did that. And I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:55:20 I don't know. So were you saying that you're like, does it concern you the amount of time that you'd have to do stand-up for to get good at it? No. Is it like? No, I told you what. My whole point is I know I have to bomb. Right. And I bombed.
Starting point is 01:55:38 A little bit. I bombed so long we're doing rap music. Yeah, but I don't know if you have to bomb. You just have to figure it out. Like, I think you have a giant advantage. But see, this thing is what it was, Joe. I thought about that, and I was like, man, yeah. I don't want to go through that.
Starting point is 01:55:57 But then I thought about it in another world. I'm like, who else gets this chance? If you think you can do it, you can do it. No, but who else gets this chance like you can be a rapper and a lot of times i think about me being a rapper is that just because the environment i grew up in who says i was a rapper i just literally lived in fucking the hood and that was the coolest shit to do. I could do comedy then, but it wasn't a cool thing to push comedy for me at that. Right.
Starting point is 01:56:29 You know what I'm saying? But everybody was cool with me being a rapper, so I just rapped. Do you think if there was comedy, if it was a cool thing to do comedy, you would do that? Yes. 100%.
Starting point is 01:56:38 There you go. 100%. Because even, it got to the point where I remember, you know, when your teacher asks you what you wanted to be when you grew up Type shit And I would say a rap
Starting point is 01:56:48 I wanted to be a rapper And the class would laugh at me So it got to the point where I stopped saying I wanted to be a rapper And I would say I wanted to be a stand-up comedian And the class didn't laugh at me no more But then the teacher The teacher would ask me to do stand-up comedian shit And I didn't have.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Because I remember one time, like, the teacher asked me, like, we had, like, a, you know, like, some type of, like, a holiday, a holiday, like, you know, program we got to put on for this shit. You know, like a Christmas program and shit. Yeah. And I had, like, a poetry thing that I was going to do and this shit. And I remember just reading this shit and I was like, man, this shit whack. Like I can rap.
Starting point is 01:57:34 Like I knew me to myself like reading the poems and shit. I can rap. Like I can make some ill shit way better than this. So instead of me like so we would and I had to do the poems, instead of me doing the actual poems I was supposed to do, I just started just doing random raps. And then the whole class, like, the school, everybody, like, they just went nuts, like, oh, like,
Starting point is 01:57:58 applauding for me and shit. And I was like, damn, you know, like, that's probably what I should be doing then. Like, I'd probably be a rapper. You know what I'm saying? So I just kept just rapping. Like, even that. Like, I was, um, I rapped the entire time.
Starting point is 01:58:13 Like, I would go to school, like, being in, like, middle school, like, sixth grade or whatever, fuck. No one knew I rapped. It'd be always one kid that'd pop up and try to, like, rap and, like, be a rapper. And he'd be like, ugh. anybody and i just be like just sitting in the corner to myself like and this be like my time to shine and i'll just buy them every time but from that one day it would make me the most popular kid in school yeah instantly literally happened like bro, every year in school. Like, I would literally shut up the whole year.
Starting point is 01:58:50 One time some rapping came up, I'd bust a rap, and then the whole entire school would look at me different. How many kids in your grade tried rapping? Probably be like three or four of us. Because I actually learned how to write a rap. Probably be like three or four of us Cause I actually learned how to write a rap Was from one of my Like a kid
Starting point is 01:59:09 Kevin Willis Shouts out Kevin Willis He had all the hockey jerseys Can you imagine that? No niggas we don't watch hockey But this nigga would show up Like on some throwback shit Like he had all the ill hockey jerseys
Starting point is 01:59:23 But his brother rapped. And his brother used to rap in his notebook. And one day he showed me his notebook. And I saw the way the format of how he wrote rap. So like, and you want to hear the fucked up part about it? It's kind of like comedy. Because it's all about stand up. It's all about like set up, set up, punchline.
Starting point is 01:59:43 Set up, set up, punchline. You get what I'm saying? You set up, set up. It's all about like set up, set up, punchline. Set up, set up, punchline. You get what I'm saying? Like you set up, set up. So I learned that from that. That's why even when y'all talk about comedy, like I can do it. I just don't, you know, I'm just, you know, I've just been a bitch ass nigga about it. Because I know I can do it. It's like everything else, Danny Brown.
Starting point is 02:00:03 Before you've done it, you get scared of it. Then you do it and you realize, oh, maybe I can get better at this. Then you can do it. It's like everything else, Danny Brown. Before you've done it, you get scared of it. Then you do it, and you realize, well, maybe I can get better at this. Then you keep doing it. It's like everything else. You know, you can't... You can get paralysis by analysis. No, the thing about...
Starting point is 02:00:17 You know what I'm saying? I'm doing it. Okay, good. I'm doing it. There's no... The only reason why I... I mean mean just make sure you time it out to five minutes I feel don't go over don't go less no I want to do it but no only restructure I'm not saying only reason but I don't think too many people get
Starting point is 02:00:37 just lucky as me and it's to me to fucking take care of the blessings and really appreciate them and go hard. Because a rapper, bro, rapping is like literally selling dope. It's like what? Selling dope. You might get five years at max. Becoming a rapper? Like, how? I mean, how long you think you're going to be hot?
Starting point is 02:01:01 You might got five years max. For me to fucking push my five years because i was the hot rapper for five years and i did that and i was able to push it to start hanging with y'all niggas and do comedy shit and then it kind of like pressed it here and there to where it wasn't like no dick riding shit, to where it looked like I was trying to like, it was, you saw me learn into this situation of this, to where I got the fucking podcast with Time Up. So if you watch me as being like a Danny Brown fan,
Starting point is 02:01:39 like you super watched my whole progression of this shit to get to here. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? So it's not like a big deal. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they're like,
Starting point is 02:01:43 oh, like the people that are like super fans of me, like I get this shit and I'm saying? They're like, oh. The people that are super fans of me, they get this shit and they do it. They're like, oh, this is what he's supposed to be doing. This nigga been like, bro, this nigga been fighting for this. You get what I'm saying? So for me being here talking shit is like, bro, I supposed to be here doing this shit. The only thing I don't understand is just, because I think I love the writing aspect. To what part?
Starting point is 02:02:08 In anything. But what do you mean? What don't you understand about it? You said the only thing I don't understand, I like the writing aspect. Because the shit you write don't necessarily mean you can go on stage and it can be funny. Yeah, but it's an idea. And then you work it out on stage. Yeah, no, no. That's what I learned. But sometimes you don't. Sometimes you write it out an idea, and then you work it out on stage.
Starting point is 02:02:25 Yeah. No, no. That's what I learned. But sometimes you don't. Sometimes you write it out. No, no. That's what I learned. You have to go and just work it, and then that will turn into something else. Sometimes.
Starting point is 02:02:34 And that will turn into something else. Sometimes you write something, and it's good right away. It doesn't make any sense. It's just like creativity is very- I'm super green as fuck. I'm sure you are. I'm a motherfucker that's damn you don't have to explain this to me oh yeah it's okay i'm green but i'm only taking it serious
Starting point is 02:02:50 because look you time like people that i really respect with this comedy shit and i know you can do this shit yeah and it's like bro like i would be a i would be retarded not to try i'm sorry. It's okay. We've said that a bunch of times already. I know. And I hate to say that, but you know what? That's just like a normal thing.
Starting point is 02:03:12 Your writing thing is not much different than any other kind of writing. It's just expressing your thoughts and getting it down on print and just put it in a computer. And really a lot of it is about the time spent thinking about the subjects. When you're writing, you have to think about these subjects. Like, a lot of people like to write in their head, which is great, too. But when you write, when you're looking at a piece of paper or when you're looking at a screen and you're typing, now you're really thinking about it. And it's extra time thinking about it.
Starting point is 02:03:40 Do you know how easy it is to write a rap? It's four punchlines. You understand what I'm saying? Uh-huh. So let's just say, if I come up with four punchlines, I told you. So let's just say I'm hanging out. Any boom day, I just write, I hear punchlines. Your bitch suck my dick like a Klondike.
Starting point is 02:03:59 Let's say if I had that line. Right. Your bitch suck my dick like a Klondike. I write four lines, three lines that come up with that, and then that's the fourth line because that's the that line. Right. Your bitch suck my dick like a Klondike. I write four lines, three lines that come up with that and then that's the fourth line because that's the big line. So,
Starting point is 02:04:09 niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, niggah, your bitch suck my dick like a Klondike. You hear what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:04:18 So it's, that's common. If you think about it, so I gotta, so all I gotta do is have these, all I gotta do is figure out four punchlines and I have a, I I gotta do is figure out four punchlines. And I have a verse.
Starting point is 02:04:27 16 bars of verse. So, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I would come up with these four lines, write these punchlines. It don't matter what the song is to it. I would figure these out.
Starting point is 02:04:40 I'm gonna figure it out. Now what we come to realize to realize like that's what stand-up comedy is yeah to the entire time where I thought I was being a rapper and I was writing raps was lightly writing because that's not when I took other rappers and they don't write raps like're like nigga you're writing stand up no so i've been doing i was doing stand up the entire time and i didn't realize it all i wrote was punch even to bro i got up off the bed today like last night if i hear a punchline like there's something that i think is funny to myself and i'm like i gotta write that down And last night It was I was talking to them
Starting point is 02:05:26 About it Before the last podcast It was doubled eggs Doubled eggs? Bro That's the most I get why they call Double eggs
Starting point is 02:05:36 Doubled eggs Now me I'm a person that love eggs I'm a Gotta get your protein High if you can get it But Alright
Starting point is 02:05:44 If we were talking about Ab abortions and this and that. So these niggas are, I'm just saying, it's an egg. Okay, it's not fertilized. But they took you, they scrambled you up, then put you back into the mix, then fed you the next. This is like the most, like, gruesome shit you can do to anybody. It's a deviled egg, man. You're going to tell me, bro, if you take my shell,
Starting point is 02:06:10 you take me, all my skin, and you're going to take all this, throw some mayonnaise and some... Do you know that deviled eggs are eggs that are not fertilized? This is not like a logical premise because those eggs aren't fertilized. They can never become a chicken. A fertilized egg is an egg when the rooster fucks the hen and then the egg could become a person.
Starting point is 02:06:36 Egg is just a piece of protein. It's never going to be a living organism. Joe, how does this change the situation? Because you're talking about gruesomely Turning up what it means to be you It's a dead baby Any way it goes No no no it's not a dead baby There's zero potential to be a baby
Starting point is 02:06:52 It's never impregnated They lay eggs every day I have chickens So eating double days They're building a chicken coop in my house right now Eating double days is not bad It's nothing. It's like free protein.
Starting point is 02:07:07 I hate you, man. Sorry. Sorry. But that's what an egg is. But can I get my bit? The bit's not going to work. God damn it. It's okay.
Starting point is 02:07:20 I get what you're going for. And if it really was you were eating babies, it makes sense. But most people know that that's not really what's going on. Right. You know what I mean? It's like one of them things where someone has to. But see, that's why you need a ghostwriter. Yes.
Starting point is 02:07:33 Well, you need someone to consult with. Sometimes you have some funny ideas and you don't realize that it's not logical. Sometimes it doesn't have to be logical. Maybe a lot of people don't know. No, you're right. You're right. Sometimes it doesn't have to be logical. Yeah. of people don't know sometimes it doesn't have to be logical but yeah that's the one I thought was really funny
Starting point is 02:07:48 well Danny Brown we're gonna work on some stuff then we're gonna go over some of your material we're gonna come up with a fucking game plan in five minutes tonight don't tell me that cause I'm really serious about it why would I not tell you that no I'm really serious about it no cause
Starting point is 02:08:04 I don't know, man. I think, I think comedy is like a, like I said, it's kind of gatekeeping. And the last thing they want to see is a nigga like me. That's not true. That was a rapper. If you're funny. Come out of nowhere. If you're funny.
Starting point is 02:08:19 And get good at this shit and then blow and then be fired. I don't think. Danny, you can't think like this. No, I don't care. But you're saying it over and over and over again. Who gives a fuck about that? Oh, because I've been through it. But don't.
Starting point is 02:08:33 Whoever's gatekeeping comedy, they're not. No, I've kind of been through it. Maybe that's what it is. Most comedians, most comedians, if you're killing it, would be happy. They would laugh. They would think this is great. Danny Brown's fucking hilarious. So that's what we hope for. I for that all right because i mean i love making music but um you should be
Starting point is 02:08:55 professionally danny brown i would love for i would love to be able to make music without any thinking about making any money from it. Yeah. Or something like that. Right. Or even doing comedy. Yeah. Like, when I can get to the point in my life where, because that's where it's at now.
Starting point is 02:09:13 You know? Yeah. Like, I have to do shit. Yeah. To fucking support myself. And I wish I didn't have that. Right. You wish you could just do whatever you enjoy and then make money off of it.
Starting point is 02:09:24 Ain't that everybody else So I can't sit around And act like it's not a big deal You know what I'm saying Yeah I can't I gotta wrap this up So let's close this out Oh yeah thank you
Starting point is 02:09:33 My pleasure Tell everybody All your social media shit Oh X Danny X Brown X That's on my Twitters And fucking Instagrams
Starting point is 02:09:41 Or whatever the fuck is that Also I have a Writing a book a book. The book will be coming soon. Working on that. It sucks to be on fucking Joe Rogan
Starting point is 02:09:50 having nothing to sell. But that's the real shit. I guess, you know, shout out, man. Joe, man, thank you for having me on here, man. It's fun, man.
Starting point is 02:10:00 Thanks for being on, brother. We're going to have fun tonight. All right. My man. Danny Brown, ladies and gentlemen. I'm with you, nigga. Woo! on, brother. We're going to have fun tonight. All right. My man. Danny Brown. I'm with you, nigga. Woo! Bye, everybody.

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