The Joe Rogan Experience - #1903 - Kurt Metzger

Episode Date: November 29, 2022

Kurt Metzger is a stand-up comic, writer, and host of the "Can't Get Right with Kurt Metzger" podcast. www.kurtmetzgercomedy.com

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Let's go. Boy, you're going deep, fella. I mean, that's why Elon Musk is a success. Why? Because he smoked weed on this show. I don't think that's true.

That's wrong. That's like with high school kids. That guy's got a lot of money, and I saw him smoke weed on this show. That's what happened, bro. That is the root of it all. I almost got him fucking removed from NASA top clearance. That's crazy, dude, that you would have to. Meanwhile, we were drinking whiskey for like two hours before we hit that one that's wild how slow that aspect cuz we'd so legal in so many

places you forget that it's not legal still wait it was legal in California that's what he asked me goes it is legal yeah it's legal here but it's not there's there's California law and then there's a state law yeah federal law rather or also like corporate like investor confidence law, I guess, is what he's violating. Well, this is NASA. NASA had an issue with it, so it's government. Yeah. Because marijuana still, very unfortunately, is still federally Schedule I, which means

it has no medical benefits, which is hilarious, because I'm pretty sure cocaine is Schedule II, because cocaine has medical benefits. Because of the throats, right? Like Elvis would get it for his throat. Is that what he was saying? I mean, officially, that's why they would give it to him. I was watching like his entourage, like the guys from his entourage. We need to get Elvis some cocaine for his throat.

It was like this medical grade. The kind Robert Evans got busted trying to get, the pure liquid cocaine, and they would just dip these cotton swabs in it and they would just sit there and be ripped for hours, he said, on liquid. It was for his throat. Well, it would numb it because I had lidocaine on my nose, which is like a cousin of cocaine, I guess. And one of the things that I thought was really interesting about it, it fucking killed my appetite.

I tried to go to dinner afterwards and was like, God, I don't want to eat anything that I thought was really interested about it fucking killed my appetite like I tried to go to dinner Afterwards, I'm like I don't want to eat anything. I'm no I'm hungry I had this delicious steak in front of me and I couldn't eat it Oh, yeah, because the lidocaine like it was still in my throat. I could taste it was like whoa Is that like a similar? What's that movie numbs everything but I doesn't get you high, but it does get you feeling weird You know you don't feel like you're not in any way high, but you're like, ugh, weirded out.

I think he gave me a heavy dose, too, because he had to clean out my nose and fix my septum. I don't know. I don't remember. I don't remember, because they put me under. I don't remember if it was injections. I don't remember what happened. Because I had to't remember if it was injections. I don't remember what happened Because I had to go out for that because it's pretty serious. I'm fucking get in there Your turban it's

Yeah, it's like these bumps in the middle my nose is fucked and so hit or just oh well from everything I fell down a flight of stairs when I was five years old So I remember yeah, there's a little photo of me with a black eye when I was five. I remember I just slipped and fell down a cement flight of stairs. Jesus Christ. In my backyard when I was five. Smashed my nose. And so I think from then on, I never had a good nose.

I think it was pretty fucked up from then on. I was a literal mouth breather until I was 40. And then I got my nose fixed. Yeah. Oh, my God. It was the greatest thing ever. I was a literal mouth breather until I was 40, and then I got my nose fixed. Yeah. Oh, my God, it was the greatest thing ever. I was like... I just had always had huge nostril capacity myself, so... Well, a lot of guys start out with huge nostril capacity,

but if you get hit there enough, a lot of wrestlers and very much boxers, boxers, they get their nose smashed. MMA fighters get their nose smashed. Yeah, right. They all have stuffed up noses. Remember Randall Texkov? Yeah.

He looked like somebody just spread his nose like butter onto his. Meanwhile, Artie Lang probably has the most impressive broken nose I've ever seen. Yeah, well. Like, Artie's just collapsed, you know? Yeah, that's a crazy story. I just talked to him not that long ago. He's the best. I love that dude so much.

I love him so much. He's such a good, he's like, when you're around him, you just want to hug him not that long ago. He's the best He's such a good he's it like when you're around him just want to hug him Yeah, this is such a good. He's always been that way too. I've known that guy for 20 plus years Yeah, he's a one if you at we used to do me and charles old podcast raised wars And he gave me a ride back to Washington Heights It was like the funniest so like a funniest dude to hang out with that I ever met, yeah. His fucking stories, they're so good. And even when he sobered up,

they were just as good if not better. Like I did his, I did a podcast with him. We used the Skank Studio. Right. Legion of Skank Studio. Thanks to them for that

because it was pretty awesome of them to let me borrow their studio. So we did Artie in there and Artie was like stone cold sober for like over a year, like confident that he was going to keep it together. He had a guy with him helping him.

He was on the ball, on the ball. His fucking stories were sharper than ever. Sharper than ever. It's like you would think, sometimes you think like if a guy sobers up, because some guys do. They sober up and then they get boring. Yeah, right. You know, something happens.

They lose that wildness. No, he doesn't. Not at all. Yeah. It brings it down to a manageable. You know who else got really better after they got sober is Attell. Yeah. Attell was always amazing.

He was always a great, great comic. But being healthier because, like, he has more energy. He just stopped. I remember that. Just stopped. When he stopped, I'm like, really? That was like a whole. Yeah. more energy he just stopped i remember that stopped when he stopped i'm like really that was like a whole yeah but i think he you know you get captured by a thing that you're known for too

because remember in somniac he would get hammered in every town it's fucking great it was like impossible to do without people throwing like ice cubes at the production did you ever see it i love i mean i loved it when it came out and uh came out. But I didn't know about how production, like the logistics of a show revolving around being drunk at night. What a nightmare that must be. Every fucking bar you go to is just filled with hammered people. You have to be drunk to do it,

because if you're sober dealing with that, it's like being waterboarded. I'll say anything to make this end. Imagine if you're like a health nut and you're like running every day and eating wheatgrass juice and you have to fucking hold the camera for that show. Yeah, I remember

I didn't drink for like five years, okay, and I remember not like, I was like, I must have been so nauseous when I was drunk because I can't stand everybody that was drunk around me. You're not at the same speed anymore, and it gets annoying. That's what it is.

You're not at the same speed. Yeah. And you think everybody's on your speed. When you're drunk, you think you're making sense. And everybody's like, oh, my God, Kurt, listen to your voice. Those fucking guys. You guys are the best. Yeah, right. It's so dumb.

It's so dumb. It's so dumb. But while it's so dumb it's so dumb but while it's happening it's so fun yeah as long as everybody's on board the same yeah but uh it's very fun while it's happening but the problem is like the fucking price you pay too whenever i do sober october at the end of the month i'm like why would i drink again i'm like i feel so good i enjoy alcohol my friend i enjoy a glass of whiskey i enjoy a glass of wine with dinner i enjoy it i like a margarita yeah those are good i i was like here and they're doing i didn't quit because i was like i have a i feel like i had a drinking problem i was like you know i had an oxycontin problem. I didn't have a drinking problem. But Ryan Long got me into White Claws. I've been drinking White Claws.

That's hilarious. People try to shame me, too, about it, and I don't give a shit. Ryan Long's a funny dude. He's a funny dude. I hung out with him at the Vulcan. Did you? I forgot. When you brought up Legion's Gangs, did you watch Soda doing Chappelle?

No. Pranking that Fox News producer for Tucker? No. Dude. Does Soder do like a Wicked Chappelle impression? It's a good impression but I can hear Soder but it's so hilarious so I saw it come on my feed and I didn't know what it was and I was like I don't want to listen to

the whole podcast but Jake called me and told me what the clip is. So I guess a producer a producer from Tucker Carlson, because Chappelle was on SNL. I don't know why, but she's at Gas Digital. So Dave Smith, you have Dave Smith on. I love Dave Smith. So Lewis was up in Dave.

He's like, you really should have Dave Smith on, because he really talks about this stuff. Oh, yeah. He knows his shit. And Lewis kept recommending him to her. And she goes, oh, you have his number? He goes, yeah. He'd love to do it. And she starts texting Dave Smith, like, it's such an honor. All this, like, a little overly.

Jesus. With Dave's like, wow, this girl's really into Dave Smith. So they figure out she thinks he's Dave Chappelle for some reason. How? Well, that was a lot of the mystery was, like, how you would mix that up. It turned out Lewis had said something that literally, like they went back and Lewis realized from texting. Oh, no. So he just flubbed a text?

He told her like Dave is the closest thing I have to a brother about Dave Smith. Oh, my God. Oh, no. Because Dave is like one of those guys like Eddie. You could say Eddie. Everybody knows you're saying Eddie Murphy. Yeah, right. Right? If you say Dave, like I say those guys like Eddie. You could say Eddie. Everybody knows you're saying Eddie Murphy. Yeah, right. If you say Dave, like I say it all the time.

I say Dave. I don't even have to bother saying Dave Chappelle. I don't remember. Well, around Gas Digital, Dave Smith, you say Dave, it's probably going to be Dave Smith. But it's something, Lewis went and checked his text and that's how he realized it. Okay. So then they get Soder. They call Soder to call her up as Chappelle.

So it's on mute for the podcast. And I think his whole thing is he's going to use the name Louis Jane Gomez in every sentence that he says to her. That's hilarious. Yeah. That's hilarious. Dave Smith, by the way, is one of the most knowledgeable political guys I've ever talked to. I just did a thing with him. He knows so much. Yeah. has Jimmy ever had him on they're trying to now actually oh that would

be a perfect fit yeah yeah by the way you're hilarious on Jimmy it's very fun it's very fun I'm glad he's got you doing that now it's such a great move because it really puts levity to all these crazy fucked up stories it's better than if I'm in the studio too. I was doing it remote and it's not as good. There's something about being in. There's a lag. Yeah. Well, you don't feel each other's vibe. Yeah, right.

That's a real thing. I smoke so much more. I mean, I already smoked a lot of weed, but so much more now because of being informed. I hate it. I mean, I really, uh I don't know I enjoy being there that was one of the few

I think I couldn't watch any more regular like news for like a few years it's hard it's hard because you know you gotta run everything

through a fucking filter you know like what are you trying to sell me what's actually going on and why are there so many pharmaceutical commercials? Yeah. And there's no, especially like friends of mine that had, you know, I was hooked on Oxycontin.

Now, I didn't get tricked. How did you get hooked on it? I knew it was heroin when I did it. So you did it for fun? I had a legit prescription at one point from Hurt My Back and then- Ah, the old Hurt My Back. Yeah. And i had like a percocet right which still has i guess the tylenol in it and then they were just around

like i could get my hands on them the blue ones oh so i started taking those so i wasn't one of the people that they said it's not addictive to you knew yeah i by that time everybody knew it was drug so i i don't blame it on the Sackler family tricked me, but they did, you remember breakthrough pain? Yeah. So I guess that's you have a tolerance to heroin, and you- It's called breakthrough pain. Yeah, they call it like,

ooh, the pain somehow broke through. You just need a higher and higher dose. Yeah, that breakthrough term is a marketing term. I didn't know that. That's what a breakthrough infection is. That's not a medical, that's a marketing thing. They tricked America into getting hooked on heroin. Can you imagine that?

When we were kids, okay, like in high school, for example, when you heard about like a rock star who did heroin, like when I heard about, I guess it was a little after high school, but Kurt Cobain, I was like, God, he's doing heroin? Doesn't he know? Doesn't he know? That was in my high school. I remember thinking that because I didn't do anything. I was a Jehovah's Witness. I didn't drink or do, you know. But, like, what was

the numbers back then of people who actually did heroin versus now? I found out later. Years later, I found out a whole bunch of people were on heroin in my high school because Tom's River. Remember the pizza connection and all that shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, really pure heroin was coming in because Tom's River, remember the pizza connection, all that shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like really pure heroin was coming in through Tom's River.

Wow. So high school north was the more, Heroin High was like the nickname of it. And that was a little bit richer kids and that was way more of a thing there. But it was at my school too. I was very innocent when it came to drugs because most of my high school years

I spent doing martial arts. So I really didn't party at all all but my boxing coach when I was 20 was this guy who was a longshoreman oh crack he did he's more crack oh no no no he didn't do anything he drank a little bit but big Irish guy okay and he great fucking guy but he worked with a guy that was a heroin addict and I go he's a heroin addict he still has a job he goes yep he goes every day at lunchtime he goes to this guy he gets his bag he sits in his car he shoots it up he sits in his car for an hour and then he goes back to work i go no fucking way he goes yeah and he's fine he goes but he needs it he's got to get it every day but if he gets it

every day he's very functional i'm like that's nuts i'm like how many. He goes, but he needs it. He's got to get it every day. But if he gets it every day, he's very functional. I'm like, that's nuts. I'm like, how many guys are like that? But he knew a bunch of people who did heroin. I was like, you know a bunch of people that do heroin? Like, who the fuck's doing heroin? Whereas now, if you hear, oh, my uncle's on pills, like, ah, fuck, another one. It's another one.

It's another one. I mean, how many of our friends? Taking the needle out of it really takes some stigma away, I guess. And also having it prescribed by a medical doctor. Schaub had it, and people had to take it from him. His friends had to take it from him. What do you mean? It was before I knew him well.

He got hooked on pills. Oh, right. He had an oxy problem. He got his nose shattered in one of his big fights. I think it was Mirko Krokop hit him with an elbow in the nose. This guy from Croatia is one of the most murderous kickboxers of all time. Schaub actually knocked him out. It was like Schaub's biggest win as a professional.

He got elbowed in the process of doing that. Yeah, he got his nose shattered in the process. So he got his nose fixed. I'm pretty sure it was that fight. He got his nose fixed. And then in getting his nose fixed, they got him hooked on the pills. Yum. And he was just taking them.

Like, months after the surgery, he's still taking them. And then his buddies pulled him aside. You get a tolerance pretty quick. But it's also one you're not supposed to just get off, right? You're supposed to wean yourself off that shit, right? Well, you won't. It's not like... Actually, that's not...

Benzos, you could die. Benzos, you could die. Opiates, you think you're going to die, but you're not. Should you wean yourself off? Do they, like if they medically do it? Like if you went, checked yourself into a rehab and said, hey, I have an OxyContin addiction. Well, I didn't have to do that. They prescribed me Suboxone to quit it.

Right, but what I'm saying is like if you went like straight, like you were fucked up and you went straight to a rehab center rehab center yeah like would they wean you off of it or would they give you suboxone they give you suboxone yeah and what is that that stuff i've heard people talk about that it's a little orange film and uh it but you have to be oh what's his name um i'm blanking on his name uh uh he took it he who you're friends with him he's got a beard and he's uh always psychedelic uh calm what's his name i'm totally duncan duncan jesus beard psychedelic i'm like yeah i was really reaching that real weed that's what that is indica that's real shit no go thank god jesus i only like productivity weed yeah but. I don't know if that's real, by the way. Ari told me a story about him where he was somewhere and he was taken.

He took some Suboxone after he had done, you know, Oxy or something. And he got real sick and didn't know what. So the stuff knocks it out of your system immediately. The Naloxone or something when you take it. So you're supposed to be in withdrawal before you take it. So you have to wait until you're sick. Oh, wow. You know, when you feel sick. And then you can take it so you're supposed to be in withdrawal before you take it so you have to wait until you're sick oh wow you know and when you feel sick and then you can take it because if you don't wait and you still have that stuff in your system it kicks you into withdrawal immediately now is there a concern with people getting on suboxone is because i remember methadone

yes when we were uh keep you on it forever by by the way, if you want. Yeah. That was the thing when we were playing pool back in the 90s that my friend Johnny B used to call these people the methadonians. They would come in from the methadone clinic. Yeah. And so there would be like a methadone place that was right down the street. And they would go to this methadone place. They'd get their fix. Then they'd walk over and come to the pool hall.

And they'd just be like slack-jawed, knocking balls around. And Johnny called them the methadonians. Yeah. It was so weird. And then they figured out at one point to take Xanax with it. And it almost feels like heroin, apparently. Oh, really? Together?

Yeah. There's an HBO documentary about it. Oh, boy. Like a few years back. But they said that methadone's terrible for you. Yeah. I think that stuff's probably even more... It's probably worse than heroin. Is methadone bad for you? Withdrawal from

methadone is worse? The withdrawal from suboxone felt worse than the withdrawal from the oxy. Really? If I just cold turkey'd that, that would have been a less horrible withdrawal. Really? Yeah. Wow. How long were you taking suboxone for? I don't know. turkey that that would have been a less horrible withdrawal really yeah wow and i was taking how long were you taking suboxone for i don't know like maybe almost a year maybe maybe not even but

i was down i did i was weaned down to the tiniest bit of it because i was really like and even the tiniest bit when you got off it completely you had horrible suck dude yeah really yeah wow so you tapered yeah i tapered i i didn- Now, is that similar to methadone? Like, is methadone supposed to be really bad when you try to get off of it too? I've never taken methadone. I don't know what it's like, but from what I get now, it's mostly Suboxone. I don't know if anybody's still taking methadone, but- I'm very ignorant to methadone.

What exactly is methadone? It's what- I just know what it is with the thing they used to give you before they had Suboxone. They give people when they were So I forgot suboxone part of it blocks you I think nothing else was it too, but it blocks you from being able to get high if you relapse Oh, there's no reason to take more like unless you just get off that fucking suboxone people get high off suboxone, too But I didn't get any high all that. I just didn't feel like sick when I was using

We had a guy on a long time ago That was he worked in a rehab center, and he said a lot of it was a scam. And he said they would get you hooked on their stuff, and their stuff was Suboxone. It does start to feel like that. But if they have you hooked on it and you're not getting high, like what is it doing?

Keeping you, well, for like heroin? Like say you're not getting high on heroin anymore, and Suboxone doesn't make you high. So you have to take it to function. That guy you're talking about that goes on his lunch break, that sounds like he was doing just what he needed to feel normal.

But is this the case with everybody? Because that sounds insane to me that you would have to be on something for a full year to get over something that like, what would it normally be? Like if you were on those oxys and you quit cold turkey and had horrible withdrawals

how long would you feel like shit for well be a week a month that okay so that's probably a week or less just the shitty feeling but then you're not going to be right for a couple of months as far as a month that's what i've experienced and like what was that like when you say weren't right what do you mean by that just like an off you know you're burning out whatever that i don't know what that receptor is but a good one yeah the one that makes the heroin i beat on it quite a bit so it probably you know benzos is worse dude i think that's the one that that's the one can kill you well not just that but i think it affects people i know that came off that it affected them for like a crazy amount of time.

For you, it was like cognitive decline, dull feelings. No energy. No energy. No energy. But I wasn't really like exercising a lot at that point. So that's a factor. I didn't even realize how much, just if you go exercise, like the energy, I didn't realize like how much.

Dude, I say it all the time. Nobody wants to listen because I'm a meathead. It's a real problem. No, there's a deep like, there's a deep like anger towards the very idea. Yeah, there's a deep resistance towards exercise. I remember feeling not like I'm mad at somebody that does work out, but I remember feeling like, I don't remember why, but I remember having that kind of feeling of like. It's defensiveness. It's hard to do.

That's what it is. When you see something, when someone does something that's hard to do. it's hard to do that's what it is when you see something when someone does something that's hard also is there's it's connected to negative things jocks uh douchey male behavior which i've been guilty of but it's not that's not all it is like exercise like just non-meathead exercise like yoga is fantastic for you yeah well just mood stabilized i didn't realize because the other thing is especially the whole time I lived in New York like I don't think I was getting sun like

I think I probably had vitamin D deficiency in a big way. Oh you 100% do. 100%. If you're not supplementing with vitamin D and you live in like

the northeast it's the winter time you have vitamin D deficiency. Yeah. From food? I mean you don't what the fuck what kind of

I think you can get vitamin D from some plants like small amounts of it from some plants. But I think primarily you get it from being in the sun unless you're supplement. That's what I did first before I was like, I'm going to actually I was in the sun first and it felt like I got. Oh, it's the best. Yeah, that's the best way to that's by far the superior way to get vitamin D. Supplementing is just a safety measure, but you should supplement vitamin D. It's really important. It's so important for your immune system. Yeah, right. According to Ron and Patrick and a lot of other people that know a lot more than I do about it, they say it's not even really a vitamin. It's a hormone.

Yeah, I wonder why you can get it from the sun. It's a vitamin. it's pretty crazy that but you know but it is a vitamin that you could take it in a supplemental form but it's um it's so beneficial for your immune system at one point in time when they were linking covid deaths oh the thing four times higher survival rate if you had vitamin d levels that were juicy that yeah it's really high and then the the number of people that were in the ICU The number of them, it was very high That were deficient in vitamin D It's just good for your immune system

And it's a mood stabilizer too For those poor people that live in Seattle Like they need that something To fucking juice their mood up That's the thing that the most I didn't realize How much it would Like even out a mood It's a game changer fucking juice their mood up. The mood stabilizer, that's the thing that the most I didn't realize how- Exercise. Or how much it would even out a mood. It's a game changer.

It's a game changer. It's not that I didn't. The reason I had Oxycontin in the first place was I hurt my back when I was working out and then I just had- Yeah. So it's not like I didn't know. I just hadn't done it for a long- The whole pandemic, I didn't do nothing. When you just sit around doing nothing, you feel like shit.

It's just normal. You're like stir crazy. Yeah. it's like oil that's at the bottom of your engine tray just sitting there yeah it's not getting cranked over it's not getting used you just fucking feel gross and your body doesn't know what to do your body's like why aren't we doing anything like you're just what you have requirements your body wants to do things the problem is it sucks like you're lazy you get up in the morning. I get it. I get it. I fucking 100% get it. That's the thing. It's like people think that people who do work out don't feel the exact same way they feel before they work out.

Because they kind of do. There's most of the time when I work out, I don't want to work out. Oh, really? Just make myself. I get, like, compulsive. So then I'm, like, how it would be with like a drug or something oh so you're just looking for i have to not that's how i hurt myself because i gotta be like i don't i'm not dumb now how i do it like i don't do any stupid shit that's gonna injure me

because i'm not i'm not going for like glory or something but i would injure myself because i would like try to go too much or you know yeah so that same addictive personality applies to your exercise too you get obsessive yeah and then you know it but i for a couple like a few days go by i didn't do anything i start to feel like a urge that i have to you know i feel like a yeah probably a lot of mood being held one of my moods are probably being held together by that well i think that's most people yeah i think that's the way the human body functions that it's most efficient is when it's in a fit condition i think the mind works better the hormones work better the mood works better the cognitive function works better all of it

works better the problem is it's just connected to so much douchery and then it's also hard to do you know there really is a uh eternal high school yeah i mean not just with that with everything where where i've never seen it more than now too by the way of like a petty like it doesn't matter what anybody's saying it's like what lunch table do they sit at right do you want to be at the right table or not? Well fucking gyms are weird with that too, right? There's always like flexi dudes the one I go to is not like that I mean, it's all it's West Hollywood So you know you can go to a bad gym though where like people are like very broed out and if you're just not into

That you're just like I've never had anybody like screaming I mean negative towards other people that are screaming I never saw but but sometimes people chalk up and they get fucking crazy and they push each other. Let's go, let's go, let's go. I've never, I just, now keep in mind, I just go there to get my dick sucked in the bathroom and I'm out. But I go every day. Sometimes I want it, but I do it. Well, don't say what the gym is.

But is it like an upscale gym or is it like a fucking gold gym type situation? It's not like golds. It's, oh, should I not say it? Don't say it. Don't say it. They're going to fucking find you. Oh, that's true. Yeah.

They're going to find you and try to suck your dick. That's what they're going to do. That's what he likes. Oh, guys, don't come to this. That's what he likes. No, well, you ever have trainers? I just don't want to be like hard sold on a trainer. Because I go hike by my house and then i do like wait and i i don't

like have anybody even talking to me while i'm doing it right well there's something to that right it's like a meditative thing you're just doing your work but you definitely should talk to somebody that can show you good form that's one of the most important yeah right well don't get injured when i so when i joined because i was I remember what I paid before I forgot the biggest hassle of it is the The bargaining to not get upsold on all this shit and just get a basic So I looked up already what like the price should be because you know I can vary it and right so I showed a dude on the thing and he's like He had me come over and talk to him on a table and he goes okay. So what are your fitness goals?

table and he goes okay so what are your fitness goals my goal is never to listen to your upsells ever like i'm 46 dude i'm not yeah but you gotta understand for some people say my you know i'm an accountant um my wife's been getting on me i really should exercise it's good for my health yeah right and you decide to join a place that you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna get a trainer that's when you would sit down with guy, you would appreciate that forethought. Well, that's the kind of thing that is like, I know what I want. So if I say I don't want it and then you're trying to find a new way in, it's so annoying. So you told him that you don't want a trainer. You ever do any retail where you have to upsell items?

Fortunately, no. Okay. So I used to work. I used to manage a Funkco land it was called when i was like 19 so like kids playhouse it became gamestop it was like they merged with electronics boutique but so it was like buying and selling video games right and you could play them before you bought them that was like a huge deal at the time and uh every retail has upsell shit so we had to sell cleaners for like you you know, like the old...

Oh, little air things? You know, people would blow on their Nintendo cartridges to make them work. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so the cleaners worked for those. I would say if you were buying an old Nintendo, that's the only way it would probably even work.

I remember that for VCRs too, right? Head cleaners. Yeah, people would blow on it, which is like worse. I'm already trying to sell you a cleaner. So they made them for every system, and then you get some, people blow on it, which is worse. I'm already trying to sell you a cleaner. So they made them for every system, and then you get some kind of warranty with it, and you would like, it's like 15 bucks.

The markup's like 200%. So you get a commission, right? And then you have to hit store numbers for the district manager. You're expected, because that's how they can be sure you're providing great service. If you don't sell this many like 25 sales we know you're not giving the customers great service because customers need a cleaner so if you're giving a good service you they've bought the

cleaner so it would create like this thing where it was like just fraud in every store because you gotta you know if you're managing you know the people that are good at at this bullshit that you put up out front and some people that are, you know, the non-social nerds. You have them count shit in the back. But there's always some kind of scam going on because it just created that. Like, you got to hit these numbers. And it was amazing. I really, I didn't know that that was like how everything works.

Everything is like you got to hit these numbers and everybody just, you know, do whatever con job. Well, people need incentive, right? That's like cops. They give cops like a certain amount of tickets they have to write every month in some places. Yeah, right. Which is crazy. That's a great system.

What would you do if nobody sped ever? What if nobody sped, everybody followed the rules for like one month What would they do if they really do have a quota and I know cops have told me they have a quota And I know I've read publicly that that's not true. I think it depends where you are though Township well depends on what's the rule and what do they actually tell you you have to do? Like is that are they the same thing? Like, how does that work? Do you know? Let's find out if that's true.

What? Because I know, I mean, maybe they stopped doing that. Do cops have quotas for how many tickets they have to write? Let's find out if that's true. Because I know cops have told me they have it. Yeah, like, I bet you it varies a lot. So if you have, like, a corrupt sheriff, it's like, listen, these motherfuckers. It's probably not even corrupt.

It's like. We're going to get that money. It's like just, I'm sure it doesn't even come off as corrupt. You know what the craziest corruption one they had? What? I don't know. I think they still do it in some states where if you have like 10 grand on you, they just take it.

Oh yeah, right. So they pull you over and you're going to buy a car and you have $10,000 in cash on you. Fuck you. Give me that. And then they spend it. Yeah, right. So they pull you over and you're going to buy a car. You have $10,000 in cash on you. Fuck you. Give me that. And then they spend it. Yeah, right. They use it for all these police funds and all these different things. Spruce up the station.

Got ourselves a nice TV, boys. And they don't have to give it back for a long time. You have to go to court for it. Yeah, right. There's a ton of them. Wait, what's it called? There's a term for it. I don't know.

We're fine. Seizure. Asset seizure or something? Asset seizure. Yeah, right. There's a ton of them. Wait, what's it called? There's a term for it. I don't know. We're finding out. Seizure. Asset seizure or something? Asset seizure. So, like, if you're going to buy, like, a fucking 69 Camaro, you know, you got 60 grand. Yeah. You're like, why do you have 60 grand? You don't have 60 grand.

We have 60 grand. You have a fucking court case. Yeah, that's a lot of money in cash. It's suspicious for you to just have that. Yeah, you're not allowed to have that. What are you going to do? It's probably drugs. It's suspicious for you to just have that. Yeah, you're not allowed to have that. What are you going to do? It's probably drugs. Probably drugs.

Isn't that hilarious? If you have so much money, that's how lucrative drugs are. They assume that if you have a lot of cash on you, you're selling drugs. They don't think you're selling MAGA hats. Basically what I see is that it's not legal to have a ticket quota. Regardless of the rumors, ticket quotas are a myth in fact they're illegal in most states but but i've seen multiple things that say there's like uh unspoken evidence suggests there's an unspoken thing about it there's always a way around it's about uh quotas

in california from ex uh it's from ex-police officers yeah so i don't because any job they're going to judge you by numbers on the board right like yeah how much did you of course so it's here's the quotas have been prohibited in california for 10 years but police departments are even now facing lawsuits from their own officers alleging that ticket quotas are real yeah there's a law about it in texas so maybe it's like a thing where they try, like, listen, man, you want to get ahead in this business? I'm sure it is some way. You got to sell the cleaner. Yeah, I think everything is that.

Because, you know, there's always a rule. I always hear that about, who was I watching? I was watching like, it's either FBI or CIA guy, but they're talking about, or I think it was a CIA guy talking about selling Coke to fund the conference, something like that. They're like, that's illegal. Like, we're not allowed to do that. Right. You know, the mafia, it was illegal to sell. It was a death penalty if you were caught selling drugs.

And yet somehow, they still sold a lot of fucking drugs. A lot of fucking drugs. Very strict penalties. Probably more strict than even agencies. Yeah. Everybody outsources. It's always outsourcing. We don't do, what do you call it, gain of function. Pay a guy to do it.

Yeah, we don't do it. I'm not guilty of that. We don't find gain of function. We find the lab. Yeah, so there's always a way around. Remember when they got the torture program? Sorry, go ahead. But that was like bringing jobs back to america kind of in a way because you just like send somebody to a country that does do that and then in a what you know the second iraq war when they made it like legal that was what was so creepy about that was to make it like now we can do it um Do you remember Michael Rupert?

No. Michael Rupert was a friend of mine. He's a really nice guy. He's like one of the first guys to gift me mushrooms. Okay. Randomly as a gift. He was a cop who busted the CIA selling crack in South Central and using it to fund the war. Oh, I know what you're talking about.

And he called it out in a courtroom. Yeah, I saw that. I saw a video of it. Yeah. That's Michael Rupert. Wait, is he alive still? No. Oh, yeah.

I was going to say. No, he wasn't. I don't think it's even suspicious. I think he took his own life. I think he was very depressed. Yeah, I bet. I think he was living alone in like a trailer on a farm somewhere. And he just, you know, he also was the subject of that movie Collapse.

You ever see that movie? No. It's a wild movie. And I don't know what the original premise was, but he sits down and he smokes cigarettes through this entire film. It's just a guy talking. And talking about the imminent collapse of civilization. I know what you're talking about.

Dependence on fossil fuels. And just wild shit. I don't know how much of it was accurate, but I know it scared the fuck out of a lot of people. And it was like a really popular documentary. I remember. It's worth watching. I mean,

someone would have to understand, have a knowledge of what he's saying, whether or not it's accurate. But he, for sure, this is the film. Here, play a trailer.

Experience as an investigative journalist, I've broken major scandals. Going out to try and map how the world really worked as opposed to the way we were told it worked. Our map has proven deadly accurate. My economic predictions, we had it so right. In 2006, we said, get out of debt right now. Check your mortgage carefully. We issued a whole series of warnings.

There will be nothing like we have ever seen before. Everything that we said was going to happen is taking place right now. Gold prices, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the stock market. It's not that Bernie Madoff was a pyramid scheme. The whole economy is a pyramid scheme. Well, that sounds right. Of course I've been called a conspiracy theor theorist but i don't deal in conspiracy theory i deal in conspiracy fact the mortal blow to human industrialized civilization will happen

when oil prices spike and nobody can afford to buy that oil and everything will just shut down unlike the great depression we do not have infinite resources. Nothing grows forever. There is a cycle. Birth, growth, maturation, decline, and death. Cars don't run. Mail stops getting delivered. Planes don't fly. Law enforcement stops working. This is all part of the collapse. If you're in a camp and a bear attacks, you don't have to be faster than the bear. You only have to be faster than the slowest camper. The challenge being faced by the human race now is either evolve or perish, grow up or die.

You have to believe, not hope, not pray that there's a way out of it and you're going to find it. Believe not hope not praying that there's a way out of it and you're gonna find it He was one of the first guests well, you know back when we were doing guests First guest that I was very excited to talk to cuz you know as when was this that was a boy came back man Because this is let's play this because this is him. No, I okay spam play Did you notice variety and all the comments about how great this movie is? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If that... Imagine today.

Today, they'd be like, this is an insane... It's colonizer talk. Yeah, like, that's the creepiest thing is how much they would have loved that message then, and now,

while it eerily sounds accurate, it's like, no, this is crazy talk. It's propaganda. Yeah. Can you speak further into the mic, sir? These mics don't seem to be... It's like, no, this is crazy talk. It's propaganda, yeah. Can you speak further into the mic, sir? These mics don't seem to be... I will tell you, Director Deutsch,

as a former Los Angeles police narcotics detective, that the agency has dealt drugs throughout this country for a long time. This is on C-SPAN. In 96. It's still there. That's where I'm playing it from. All right. All right. All right.

Obviously, that is an answer for a lot of you. Now, can you please? I refer. All right. Now, can you please? I refer direct. Wait, wait, wait. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute here. Wait a minute. If you don't like what's going on here, please leave now. No, no, no. Leave. No, no, no. Leave now because there are others who do want to hear what's going on in this room. Will you please take your seats? I will come back to you specific agency operations known as Amadeus, Pegasus and Watchtower. I have Watchtower documents heavily redacted by the agency.

I was personally exposed to CIA operations and recruited by CIA personnel who attempted to recruit me in the late 70s to become involved in protecting agency drug operations in this country. I have been trying to get this out for 18 years, and I have the evidence. My question for you is very specific, sir. If in the course of the IG's investigations and Fred Hitz's work, you come across evidence of severely criminal activity, and it's classified, will you use that classification to hide the criminal activity,

or will you tell the American people the truth? All right, you want to hear the response first from Congressman Julian Dixon and then from the director. Wait. Wait a minute. From your, from your, I'm sorry, sir. I will allow the director to speak first. Shout out to that lady for taking control, by the way.

Like a boss. Listen to this. If you have information about CIA illegal activity in drugs, you should immediately bring that information to wherever you want. But let me suggest three places. The Los Angeles Police Department. This guy's like something from Columbo. I'm sorry, others want to hear this answer. I am sorry, others want to hear this answer. It is your choice, the Los Angeles Police Department, the Inspector General,

or office of one of your Congress persons from this... I did that 18 years ago, sir, and I got shot at for it. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, sir. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. Sir. And? Sir, you have not gotten the mic yet. You are not. But wait a minute, then. Don't speak out of turn. Let me say something else.

If this information turns up wrongdoing, if it turns up wrongdoing, we will bring the people to justice and make them accountable. All right, Congressman Dixon. Thank you. Thank you, sir, for coming. Wait, wait, wait. Wait a minute here.

I thought you did not want to be here, but now that you are here, please let us hear and listen. Thank you very much. Sir, I want to thank you for coming. You were at the last meeting. The staff probably had the spelling of your name wrong. But we would like to talk to you.

We have been looking for a couple of days for you. And we want to make sure that you contact the committee because obviously you have some valuable information. If you want to give it to me privately, if you want to hand it to that aide where I can contact you this evening, please do it. Don't let us get away without getting a contact for you. Thank you, sir. If I pass it up to him now so everyone can see that I got it, that would be fine. Thank you, sir. And for the record, for the record, Mike.

Please, please keep the noise down so that we can hear and we can get answers. For the record, my name is Mike Rupert, R-U-P-P-E-R-T. I did bring this information out 18 years ago, and I got shot at and forced out of LAPD because of it. Now, if you were cynical and you're watching that, you're like, I think the CIA faked a CIA guy. Do you think they did? To go in there. I mean, if you were playing 4D chess, no, I don't think so. I think, like, nowadays.

I think that's really who he is. I mean, I know the guy. Yeah, I was, because nowadays, I forget the woman's name, what was she, what was her, was she a congressperson? That they said it in the description. Because I imagine she would be having him taken out of there so he can't say anything. Today. That's crazy that you're like, hey, let him talk.

Well, back then there was no internet. You got to realize if someone actually had information like that and people suspected it all along, obviously those people weren't shocked. Yeah, right. Right? Those people in the audience are like, no way they're selling they were like i fucking knew it yeah everyone was like i fucking knew it that's what they were yelling out did you ever talk to rick ross yes yes the real rick ross yeah yeah that guy was very interesting he was very interesting

he's the guy who was in charge of selling the drugs in South Central that was funding the Contras versus the Sandinistas I mean, it's just such but anyway, you just be outsource that and then you have deniability or whatever That's how that works. That's how it works and you can make so much money Or what would you rather do let all these other people make money doing these bad people? Yeah, so we have to sell the drugs if the CIA doesn't sell the drugs, who's going to sell the drugs? Criminals. But also for a good cause. Yeah. Imagine if that's how they've been funding things forever.

Imagine if you found out that that's how they fund the UFO program. Well, you know, I wonder about that, because that Bob Lazar episode was very creepy when I watched the thing. Between him talking about it, it was eerie to hear him talk about it. It was very creepy when I watched the thing. Yeah. But to him talking about it, it was eerie to hear him talk about it. It was very confusing because what he's saying is so out there.

You don't know. I'm like, I'm definitely a fool. But am I being a fool here? Yeah, no. That's the little eerie part of it. But then who would control? Do you think the president gets to find out about it, or do you think it's purely? Supposedly Nixon knew, and Nixon took Jackie Gleason.

Yeah, I know that. And Jackie Gleason built a house out of the shape of the UFO that he saw, like, to represent the UFO that he saw. And, like, the Jackie Gleason house was for sale just a few years ago. It's in, like, what is it, like, upstate New York? I found out about this from this dude who gave me the book Best Evidence by David Lifton. He was, like, a guitarist in a band. That's it. That's the UFO-inspired upstate New York house.

Look at his fucking house. Wait, that's not that big a house. Well, it wasn't that big a house because he wanted to make it like the fucking UFO. So what it was was— Oh, I see. I think it's multiple properties. Oh, I see. So he just's multiple properties. Oh, I see. So he just started making UFO houses.

Apparently, this is the rumor. What the rumor was was that Jackie Gleason got drunk with Nixon. And Nixon's like, you want to see a fucking flying saucer? Yeah. He's like, yes. And then they flew to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, I believe was the rumor. And they showed him, like, we have actually recovered. Like they had freezers of them, right?

I don't know if that's real. I've never heard anybody say that they saw a body and have it be like 100% credible. Other than maybe that Travis Walton guy who claims to have been abducted in the 1970s. He's another one of those guys. Like, if he's telling the truth. Okay, there are a number of labs we passed through before I entered this section. Nixon like what if he's telling the truth okay there are a number

of labs we passed through before entered a section nixon pointed out what he said was the wreckage of a flying saucer enclosed in several large cases next we went to an inner chamber there were six or eight what looked like glass-topped coke freezers inside them were the mangled remains of what i took to be children oh that's right yeah that's the thing i remember from this story so i i'm conflating this with something else so that's right. Yeah, that's the thing I remember from this story. So I'm conflating this with something else. So that's right. They did have fucking supposedly dead frozen ones. The revelation of the U.S. secretary holding the corpses of dead aliens shook Gleason to the core,

and he couldn't eat or sleep for weeks. After being confronted by his wife Beverly, Gleason told her the truth about that night and swore her to secrecy. But Jackie and Beverly Gleason told her the truth about that night and swore her to secrecy, but Jackie and Beverly Gleason were already in the process of separating. The final straw in the relationship would be Beverly breaking her vow and revealing the encounter to the magazine Esquire in 1974. As a teaser for a book, she was writing about her relationship with the tempestuous, hard-drinking Jackie. Oh, the wife sold him down the river. I wonder what that article,

so that article was where this story first came out? Yeah, I guess so. Stung and humiliated by the betrayal, Jackie stayed silent until 1986. Finally ready to talk, he invited Larry Warren, a flying saucer evangelist, author and eyewitness to the Randall Sam,

oops, fucking pop-ups. No, I don't want your pop-up. No, thanks. Thank you. Where were we? 86. Eyewitness to the Randall Sam forest UFO incident to his New York home.

After a few drinks, Gleason unloaded the whole unbelievable tale to an astonished Warren who spread the story amongst his community. However, the story would end there. Gleason died a year later, having only told his ex-wife and Warren about

the once-in-a-lifetime adventure with Nixon. The tale would spread like wildfire, with the advent of the internet confirming what UFO believers already knew. The government knows everything about aliens, but reveal it only to the privileged few. Huh.

Okay, of course, because this is the blog of Skeptoid and not believe everything. Oh, this is Skeptoid that wrote this. You read on the internoid. The story doesn't end there. In fact, there really is no story. The Richard Nixon, Jackie Gleason, Dead Alien Chronicle in a glass case tale now accepted part of UFO internet lore is based almost entirely on hearsay, coincidence, or an imagination. And not just the dead alien children in the glass case part. Wait a minute.

Why do they say that? Wait, was the Esquire magazine? What is their reasoning for saying that it's not true? They're saying it's anecdotal, which is obviously it's anecdotal. Scroll up a little bit more. Yeah. So it says, as critical thinkers, we can't dismiss a story out of hand because it's preposterous, but we can dismiss a story if the facts don't fit together.

Aha. So let's start with the established facts Richard Nixon Jackie Gleason Beverly Gleason and Larry Warren were all real people Beverly and Jackie Gleason We're really married got divorced in 74 75 Jackie and Richard Nixon our friends and played golf on a few occasions Jackie was an enthousiast about paranormal topics with a huge collection of books on the subjects Florida is a real place. Homestead Air Force Base. Esquire is a real magazine. That's about it. A little investigation into Nixon's daily diary reveals that Nixon was in Key Biscayne in February 1973 for a meeting

with the AFL-CIO. He spent less than 40 minutes speaking and glad-handing with guests at Gleason's annual golf tournament at the Inverie Golf and Country Club, which at most 10 minutes available to chat with Gleason about UFOs. Nothing else in Nixon's diary indicates that the president did or didn't slip his Secret Service detail and go on an alien adventure with Ralph Cramden. But that doesn't mean he didn't do it. That just means he didn't write about it in his diary. Why would he write about that in his diary?

Where the story really starts to fall apart is Beverly Gleeson's interview with Esquire because it doesn't appear to exist. Interesting. Yeah, that's what I wanted. The search of both Esquire's archives and internet in general turned up nothing. Hmm.

What did turn up, however, was an article supposedly written by Beverly from the National Enquirer dated August 16th in 1983. Discerning readers will note that the Esquire and the Enquirer have different thresholds for veracity and adjust their expectations accordingly. That's a very good sentence right there. Yeah. It's very well worded. Yeah.

So it seems like there was no Esquire article, so that's bullshit. Yeah. seems like there was no Esquire article, so that's bullshit. Yeah, the Inquirer back then, I remember being closer to Weekly World News, because Inquirer became like celebrity gossip entirely, right? When I was a kid, I remember it having wilder stuff in it. Okay, in short, the piece makes Jackie look like a lunatic, befitting a spurned wife writing a tell-all about her famous ex-husband, but the book wouldn't show Jack as he's never been seen before to anyone because Beverly never published it. The Gleason UFO story got picked up by a few other tabloids, but mostly faded into obscurity. So here's the thing, though. You could for sure imagine that

his ex-wife wanted to sell a book yeah you could also for sure imagine that jackie would try to stop that book from being sold yeah right so there's the there's that like maybe he bought her out maybe you know like how do we know that she didn't actually write a book now that's also because nixon didn't write about it in his diary that doesn't if nixon's the fucking kind of guy who likes to get drunk and take people to see ufos he's not going to be meticulous about every fucking thing he does all day long and you don't think that they could hide that i like that back then he was only like really open about recording his racist rants and not but dude back then the fucking lyndon johnson used to take a shit in front of the reporters with the door open so you can see how big his dick was Well, he was just like he didn't give a fuck and like he would have a comic station

But I gotta take a shit so he would sit there with his fucking pants down take a shit in front of them Yeah, a guy like that Whatever his fucking diary says that's probably not all that happened It's probably a fucking UFO in that diary All that happened. It's probably a fucking UFO in that diary somewhere. Do you think LBJ would record that he took a shit in front of reporters? Yeah, well, took a shit in front of reporters, just let them know how big my cock is. That supposedly was, he had a thing with that, because he had like a huge, and he would try

to like, like, I can't remember. Rodney had a giant dick too. Dangerfield? Yeah, and he used to do shows with a bathrobe on just only a bathrobe really naked under a bathrobe It would go out in front of the fucking I saw him live like that How do you get the word out? When I was a I was a bodyguard, what was I? security guard at Great Woods Center for the Performing Arts when I was 19 and I was backstage and

He was working there and I couldn't believe I could actually see him I would look down the corridor and I saw I couldn't believe it it's Rodney Dangerfield really Rodney Dangerfield it was one of those things as a kid you're like fuck he's right there yeah I guess a 19 year old Mike that doesn't even make sense I saw Bill Cosby there oh they can tell me he saw his dick no no no I didn't see his dick but he was wearing a fucking bathrobe so this was during the bathrobe days. There was a part in Rodney Dangerfield's career when he had just made it and didn't give a fuck.

And he was still partying hard. Was this after Go Back to School? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was after the big movies. And he would do stand-up and just go out there with a fucking bathrobe on. This was also like when he was putting together the Rodney Dangerfield stand-up specials. Yeah, right. Which were the most important stand-up specials ever.

They introduced the world to Bill Hicks, Dice Play, Sam Kinison, Dom Herrera, Lenny Clark. Who else? Wasn't Jerry Seinfeld on those too? I think so. I think so. I'm not sure. Seinfeld might have already been,

I think he was already really popular by then. But you look back on the Dangerfield ones. Like if you got on that Dangerfield special, that was a fucking stamp of approval. Yeah. Like, holy shit, you're on the Dangerfield special? That was a big deal. What was that? 80s?

Those are like 86-ish. Because I think Kinnison really popped in 86. And so it was around that time. Because I remember he was fucking murdered on that special Hicks killed us dice murdered on that special. Yeah, right those those specials. There was a couple of them They were so big cuz you HBO. Yeah. Yeah Yeah And Ronnie Dangerfield's young comedian special and you knew that like if those guys came to the fucking catch rising star the improv you had

To go see him. Yeah, you know. That's how I found out about so many comedians that became some of my favorites. That and the fucking Tonight Show. People forget that Tonight Show used to be how you found out about a good comic. Did I tell you Keyboard Jeff from Comedy Store? You know Jeff that passed away?

Yeah. He told me a story. I think this has been verified on a podcast. They were doing with Hogan and Richard Pryor Jr. fucked Sam Kinison up the ass. Because Sam Kinison said, I got to know what it's like to be fucked by Richard Pryor Jr. And then he did.

And I think Richard Pryor Jr. has told this on a podcast. I would imagine that's possible. Yeah, I mean. Sure. That's a wild. You're doing coke, people get crazy. And you surpass the comedy legacy of your father. Into his asshole.

Imagine thinking you can get it through DNA. Yeah. Imagine if it was that easy. Like, talented sperm would be so valuable. Like horse sperm, kind of. Oh, my God. Yeah. Laugh at first sight.

So this is someone telling the story. Yeah, there's a couple other links for that. Well, there you have it, folks. We've proven that much more than we've proven the Jackie Gleason UFO thing. If only we had that kind of anecdotal evidence. That actually ends with it saying it could be true, that whole skeptical thing. The Jackie Gleason thing? Yeah, it says there's four possible answers for this, and one of the four was that it could be true.

Yeah, that is a possibility. Elvis was a DEA agent after meeting with Nixon. But, you see, this is the thing. After we talked, we were talking about Bob Lazar. And after I've talked to him, and then I've seen all the interviews he's done, I've talked to the detractors and I've listened to their take on things. I think he worked there, man. I think for sure he worked there. Whether or not he worked there on something that actually came from another planet, that's where it gets weird.

People who work there for sure remember him they've they've told people they remember him like they've he knows his way around the buildings even los alamos lab he knows his way around the buildings yeah right like he knows he knows how to navigate the place like who would know about that's the thing i always wonder is like with the okay nixon i guess they said he never worked at Los Alamos But he was on the fucking the the employee register from like from that year if you can go there you could find it So they lied. Yeah that well that makes it suspicious when like why do you need to lie about a guy who is making it up? I think he thought they're gonna take him out. So he spilled the beans as hard as he could spill the beans

It really is uh, cuz I you know that guy we just watched on C-SPAN, you don't have to come kill you. It could just make you. Make you look nuts. Yeah. And if you just learn about things, it's awful. Like I started smoking more weed while I was watching that C-SPAN thing. It really is a horrible. It's terrifying. Learning is, I don't recommend it. I know. That's the thing.

You're working with Jimmy Dore now, and because you're working with Jimmy Dore, Jimmy's constantly exposing insane corruption that no one's talking about. Constantly. And constantly calling people out. It's all shit that I wouldn't know about because nobody talks about it ever. You don't hear about it. It really is. And it's stuff that...

It's the regular... The weird thing, I was telling Jamie, is it'll be, report on something and then I'll notice the other news, YouTube and elsewhere, reporting on it later, like four months later, they're talking about it. Like an embargo has been lifted when you're allowed to review the, it's really- Yeah, when things get to a point where they're so prevalent in the news that you kind of have to address them now there's a thing where if you want to have access to to the people you're going to have to be like doing part pr for them yeah or you're out of the club so all these people that

he's had on this is why i like about him is all these people he's had on if they don't do the thing they said he brings it up he doesn't politely yeah you know he doesn't do any of that team shit where you're supposed to like no i know this is a lie but we have to go with it because the the bad people could win like they all do that yeah and that's not journalism it's you can't get it from those forms anymore because they're they're holding water for so many different entities yeah it's so hard for them to just spit facts. And I think the way you two guys do it together is so refreshing because it's like true.

Like you go over facts and details and then you're constantly cracking jokes. It's like there's levity to it. I'm kind of just like, well, I'm doing like, just watching it, laughing. It creates an effect, I think, to have a laughy guy. Well, it's also, it's a perfect perfect your type of joke writing is like perfect for that kind of shit. Yeah, right You know, I mean, it's like it syncs up with you. You're a quick. Well if I give him if I give him stuff Cuz I like to have more time to for my first angry thoughts to at least try to

Marinate into Clevers because they don't come out. He's good at delivering like... Angry and funny at the same time. Yeah, he's very good at delivering that. So it works like it's a good, rather than like tweeting. Right. That's the worst way to do it. Yeah, it's probably the worst way to do it. It's just, all context

is lost. Everything's lost. It's also like an, you know know when they talk about people want to take your information i didn't really understand it doesn't just mean like a corporation it means just all kinds of people looking to see if they can find something that they could like make a name for talking about that you tweeted oh yeah for sure there's always also that and that's a whole ecosystem now calling calling people out for things. It's an ecosystem. There's a whole business being destroyed right now.

Well, there's people that that's all they do. You want some more of this? Yeah. All they do is call people out. That's their only contribution, which is great. I can't believe how much that became the real news because they don't want to pay to do journalism. So all the people that just got there start doing that, moved up through the ranks into real news because they don't pay for they want to pay to do you know journalism so they just all the people that just got there start doing that moved up through the ranks into real news yeah bizarre and then it functions like real news that's how real news functions

and also you know when the rise of these independent things like jimmy show and uh crystal and kyle and saga know, these people who are trustworthy, like you could, you could count on them to give you information. They have opinions and perspective and they might have their own biases, but they're not liars and they don't own, they're not owned by a lot of them. A lot of them do get money for you'd be surprised. It's been very surprising who gets money from what, since I've been, uh, I don't think any of those guys do.

The guys that I just mentioned? Well... Jimmy doesn't. All the Ukraine stuff is special. Here's what's really creepy to me. It's all slow to mention how fucked up the Ukraine situation is. And the other really eerie thing is... I remember this before I did anything with Jimmy's show.

Like in 2018, they were constantly reporting on like Ukraine's got a Nazi problem. That was a huge, on all the major things they would say. And corruption, deep, deep corruption. Yeah. And so now if you look in New York Times, he showed it, the celebrated Azov battalion. They've even dropped saying the Nazi part. Wow. Did you see the thing

of Jon Stewart hanging the medal on the Nazis' neck at Disney World with a Mickey Mouse behind him? No. What?

Yeah, that's one of the ones we did. The guy covered it up though. Oh, we talking about Sketch? No. What do you mean? In real life.

Hold on, explain that. What did you? It was for, it was like the Warrior Games at Disney World and a hero, an Azov hero, one like best, best guy on the team. I don't know how there's time Warrior Games at Disney World, and a hero, an Asov hero, one best guy on the team.

I don't know how there's time to go to Disney World, but Jon Stewart hangs a medal on his neck, and he's got a red. In the photo, he's got a red thing covering it up. It's one of those Black Sun, the Himmler. I think it's like the occult thing, right? He's got that on his elbow. What? Yeah. That's a very. Oh, there he is. What? Yeah. That's a very...

Oh, there he is in the... Yeah, okay. That's the guy. But look at the picture of the guy in the hospital. He's a sweet, sweet make-a-wish kid with a black sun. Is that real? Yeah. The thing is creepy is this is...

All the regular news reported this up until abruptly. Now it doesn't come up. Which I can understand if we were at war. So he had something covering up his arm? Yeah, see, he's got a thing covering it up. So he had a thing to cover up his tattoo? Yeah, but- Wow.

I mean, holy shit. Walt Disney's dream coming true. Whoa. Is that wild? Well, did you ever see the thing that happened with Candace Owens? No. Where Candace Owens was talking about how corrupt the new york times is the new york times tried to play gotcha with her and they said uh what you know what are you referring to like what references and she goes your own fucking newspaper and she sent them all these links from like 2017 from the new york Times talking about how corrupt Ukraine is. There's like a.

When a narrative shifts like that and you don't say what Russia is doing is absolutely horrific. Yeah, right. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Right. But this is a place that is also, like those people don't deserve that. The people that are citizens there, they don't deserve bombing. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is like the government has always been criticized there. and now it's not no now it's it's this is my favorite

i've heard this line three times like yeah it's corrupt but they're trying i've heard that over and over again they don't deserve they don't deserve to be attacked like i think there's a lot of parts yeah there shouldn't be a none't be a... None of this should be happening. None of this should be happening. There's some kind of proxy thing here. It's very weird that we spent more on this than Russia spent doing the invasion. We now surpassed what Russia has spent. But what about this FTX thing? Oh, yeah, well...

That's where it gets crazy. Which I love is they're all reporting on, like, how could this happen? Like, you know, he would play League of Legends while he's on the phone doing a $20 million deal and and then who was it goldman sachs somebody's like i love this kid they all think it's great how could they think that's great because he's a rich kid with connected parents it's not if he's just some jerk off off the street who look like that right they wouldn't be like oh this is great well his mom his mom was a big Democratic Party operative, right?

Wasn't she something along those lines? Yeah, also MIT. The guy at the SEC that he would talk to was an MIT professor. Go back, Jamie. What did you just show me? I was trying to find the actual thing, and that wasn't it, but this is what he was talking about. Crypto's biggest crash saw a guy playing League of Legends while luring investors. So while he was playing this fucking game, while he was talking to the investors?

If you just pay a bunch of money to the media, which is what he did, they'll just write things about how great you are. That's the other thing. He donated. You was a jerk off. They'll write your, because there's only two kinds of stories. My friend that used to work, she told me it's either puff, outrage. It's like puff pieces or hit pieces. That's all they do.

Because that's how you get people to look at it and whatever. So you can bribe these companies to do puff pieces or hip pieces. That's all they do because that's with them That's how you get people to look at it and whatever so you can bribe these companies to do puff pieces that's what he did isn't that wild the guy from a Shark tank that they asked him he's like I'd work with him again I think he was actually one of the guys that got paid to of course one of the spokespeople wasn't he Kevin O'Leary Did they give some fun disclosures on that video where he's like, before we get started on this, let me tell you that all my business accounts are involved in FTX and I've invested in it. Oh my goodness.

Dude, there's a video of him on Shark Tank tearing apart some guy who brought a Ponzi scheme to him. Oh no. In fact, what did I say? I think it's Coffeezilla. Maybe he believes in this kid. Yeah, but he does. If you know the right people and you're... His brother works with like a gap or something, a guard against pandemics.

Every single thing that you would see. Did you see what the young lady said? She posted it on Twitter about regular amphetamine use. Oh, the chick. Making people's life. What does she say? I didn't see it. Makes real life seem silly.

See if you can find out what her post was but she was talking on twitter about how uh consuming amphetamines on a regular basis here it is made non-medicated life seem dumb oh no shit it was do you see the obvious the obvious things they're saying what a fucking look nothing like regular amphetamine used to make you appreciate how dumb a lot of normal, non-medicated human experience is. That is a hilarious thing to say from someone who, in April 5th of 2021, is responsible for how much money? Dude, but you know what's crazy? They're all whacked out on legal prescription drugs. Yeah, yeah, they're whacked out on...

There's another thing that he was taking in a transdermal patch. He was taking Shledgeline or something like that. I just watched that dude. He's like a weightlifter guy. More dates. Yeah. More plates, more dates. Derek.

That guy knows all the chemical. Oh, my God. What is he, like a chemical engineer? No, man. He's just fucking super smart and reads research. I know. It's so funny. People are like.

I thought he was a chemist. Everybody I ever knew that was some kind of fitness freak knew a lot of shit about They weren't like stupid people that shouldn't do research. They were way ahead. Yeah, everyone else. I knew Could you know how like? Weightlifting supplements. Oh, yeah, man I know a lot of people that know a lot of shit about like when you should eat for the maximum amount of absorption of the protein yeah right how many grams per pound of body weight you have to take and that kid with that fledgling that's amazing a kid that out of shape as like weightlifter knowledge of nootropics a bodybuilder that's his body his body is his mind his body's just

carrying his mind around what the effects he said it does where it makes you enjoy doing boring work or something? Yeah, I think it was something along those lines. Let's find Derek's video on it because Derek describes it. But the Sledgelline one, he had like a nicotine patch. It was like a patch. Yeah. So he's just like getting that slow drip of whatever the fuck that Sledgelline stuff is all day. That stuff stays in you for a while. Those kind of things stay those ones where it stays for a while

You can't just go off it right transdermal. Yeah, not not the part of the camp. Yeah Just start it yeah right there, that's the stuff that's the stuff yeah, I'm Sam Lane this Okay, so he's going to go. He has his medical disclaimer. He's smart about the way he handles stuff. What's up, guys? Derek, moralplates.com. Today we're talking about Sam Bankman-Fried and his nootropic use, his drug use, his cognitive enhancing, dopaminergic enhancing drugs that he's using to stay cognitively fucking dialed, dude, for being the hyperproductive entrepreneur

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high quality information on a regular basis in a highly entertaining format. Highly recommend his channel for anything crypto scam related essentially or anything financial. You know who has a good thing on FTX that is not making any conclusions? This guy, Upper Echelon Games. I watch a really good... It's actually great. I can't remember what it is, but it's about FTX when it fell and he doesn't claim anything. He just shows...

It's worth watching. That other guy, the guy who was the head dog at Google? Was it Google or Facebook? Chamath? Where was he from? He's from Google, right? I think he runs a venture capital fund. I don't know. He probably used to work there. But wasn't he like

the top guy of Google? Anyway, he's a billionaire and he really understands it. And he actually reached out to them, contacted them and said, you know, you should form a board. And they told him to go fuck himself that's literally what they said he was like he's a fucking billionaire financial guy who actually understands

how money works and he said like this is what you guys got to do oh and they're like go fuck yourself do you think the new tropics were making them arrogant but they're on speed all day man these guys are jacked up on speed they're all fucking billions and they're fucking each other all of them all nine of them in a house in the Bahamas Just smells like nerd fucking just nerd fucking Just taking Mountain Dew and sledge lean Using a trackball these tweets on the side of this are crazy. That's probably talking about was he saying it says like Sam has fatal side effects when eaten with meat products. Yeah. Oh, so is that why he's a vegan?

Pathological gambling and hypersexuality. Yeah, it's that fearlessness. Pathological gambling and hypersexuality. Have you heard of this before? Whoa. I've heard of this with other drugs. Well, one of them, Reequip. You know what Reequip is? No.

Reequip is a Parkinson's drug that got pulled from the market. That's what this is. Is that what it is? Yeah. This is Reequip is a Parkinson's drug that got pulled from the market. That's what this is. Is that what it is? That's what this says at the very beginning. It says it's developed to treat depression or Parkinson's and is off-label, alertness, and focus benefits. But is it the same drug? Is it Reequip? It could be renal check.

It could be Reequip. Maybe. Find out if it's the same thing as Reequip. Because Reequip, they lost a court case where a guy became a gay sex and gambling addict. I remember that. He was a heterosexual guy with parkinson's he had a little bit of a shake and so he starts taking this drug and he just can't stop sucking cock and rolling dice yeah he's just out there compulsive compulsive wildly compulsive

like finding people on ads and just fucking them and they fuck him and wild shit like couldn't believe what he was doing he just lost lost his fucking mind. And they attributed it to the drug. They successfully, I think he got hundreds of thousands of dollars in a settlement.

Well, there was an ad, I can't remember what drug it was for and I remember hearing it. I want to say it was an antidepressant but you would hear like,

if you feel a sudden urge to gamble, contact your doctor. Like, that's an odd. But with this guy, it's crazy because I don't know

that there were other cases that were similar i just heard this must have happened if they're saying that on the commercial that must have happened a lot is it the same drug are we talking about the same drug or is it other drugs that make you gamble too they're probably any of those ones that are that you know with the suicidal ideation or whatever they call it happens more. And somebody was telling me something that inhibits your fear, your anxiety, your anxiety about all kinds of things. But like it could be for death, too. You're supposed to be afraid of taking your own life, but it could. Well, also taking other people's lives.

You know, that's the correlation, not caus, that people make with psych drugs and shooters. Yeah. Well, Tom Cruise, when he said Matt Lauer was being glib, I laughed. But you know what? Matt Lauer was being glib. Well, Matt Lauer thought that he was informed, because that's what we were told. We were told that there's a chemical imbalance. And it turns out that that's not based on anything. That whole thing about people that are depressed have a chemical imbalance. Yeah, that's been it's in the commercial. I forgot.

They go. It's thought to work this way. Their wording is legally not that they know this. They go. We think it works and it was right in the commercial and I didn't remember that from the commercials. I think they're allowed to say we think it works that way. But I think now they know that that's not necessarily the case what is the the case now

when they say so the the statement used to be that there was like a measurable chemical imbalance that certain people had that was leading them to be depressed and now they're saying that's not something that can measure that that's isn't that correct yeah well i don't know i find out what that is an article came out where they said, like, that's not. They said that's not true. It was based. Well, there's a lot of really crazy ones you find out. Like the amyloid plaque one with Alzheimer's.

Yeah. Turns out it was horseshit. It was based on fraudulent data. Oh, I didn't hear that. It's based on fraud. Popular theory about depression wasn't debunked by a new review. So it wasn't debunked. This is from technologynetworks.com.

So psychiatry gave up on the chemical imbalance theory a long time ago, they're saying. So they're saying maybe it's a common thought and they're saying it like it was a recent thing, but it wasn't. Okay, wait. thought and they're saying it like it was a recent thing but it wasn't okay wait the review published by international research team including first author professor joanna moncrief aimed to assess the available evidence for and against the serotonin theory of depression systematically the team explained this theory near the start of the paper. The theory is the idea that depression is a result of abnormalities in brain chemicals, particularly serotonin. The theory has been around for decades, but their overreaching conclusion is that it is not correct, given that there appears to be no link between measurable serotonin concentration

and depression. The reaction of many academics briefly is, obviously, in comments, UK-based science media center, Dr. Michael Bloomfield. Oh, wait a minute. This is some kind of, I'll bet you this is some industry fucking thing.

Because all they're saying is, oh, no, no mental health professional says that, but people think that. Yeah, but scroll back up again. I want to finish what he's saying. So he says, the findings from this umbrella review are really unsurprising. Depression has lots of different symptoms. And I don't think I've met any serious scientists or psychiatrists who think that all causes of depression are caused by a simple chemical imbalance in serotonin, but that's not what they're saying. They're saying they do say sometimes that there's a

chemical imbalance in serotonin that causes depression that's people have always said that so if that's what people were saying well they're not saying that's the only reason why you're depressed but they see see how he's wording this but they market it to you even though in the but who's they the company well okay i don't remember the name of the drug but the old commercial i saw it played and so they're saying right there, we think it's a, they're not guaranteeing it in the commercial, but everyone I knew remembers it as, oh, it's that simplified thing that they're all saying, none of them were ever saying. Well, maybe they weren't in charge of marketing, but the people in charge of marketing were

making it seem very much like that's the thing. So there's different doctors, scroll back up, there's different doctors who do a better job of explaining it. And this guy, or better to me rather, a doctor, Professor Phil Cohen, Cowan or Cohen, I'm not sure. Oh, they're saying what I'm saying. Professor of, yeah, psychopharmacology at the University of Oxford said no mental health professional would currently endorse the view that a complex heterogeneous condition like depression stems from a deficiency in a single neurotransmitter. So he's saying that it's probably more things. Do you see down there what it says?

That it was heavily pushed by drug companies? Yes. So that's exactly that. Where does it say? Read that. Yeah. Okay. 88% of respondents believe the chemical imbalance to be the cause of depression.

This idea, the authors point out, was heavily pushed by drug companies aiming to sell serotonin selective reuptake inhibitor compound. Read it for Eli Lilly. Oh, Eli Lilly, for example, promoted their compound Prozac in 2008 with the following. Many scientists believe that an imbalance in serotonin, one of these neurotransmitters, may be an important factor in the development and severity of depression. Prozac may help to correct this imbalance by increasing the brain's own supply of serotonin. That's from the commercial. I remember that. And so there's all these maybes and we don't knows, but you don't remember that.

You just remember, oh, that's what causes it. Exactly. I saw an animated diagram of what causes it. So they're not totally lying. It's just the way wormy advertise. It's so gross. That's the thing. Ask your doctor.

Yeah. Oh, okay. That's fucking crazy. And your doctor's supposed to be telling you what you should take, and you're asking your doctor about these things. And then all of a sudden, there's a big panic of of like uh wait don't ask your doctor about these ones right now oh yeah they've been telling people to ask their doctor and all of a sudden but don't even look not not the off-label stuff can't make any money off of that who would ever use things off that

the kids using what is he using parkinson medicine to steal your money back? You know what that is? It's an affinity scam. Like, you know, Madoff preyed on a lot of Jewish people because they trusted him. It's called an affinity scam when you try to prey on a fellow or something. And this kid, that's an affinity scam of fellow connected rich people. They all trust. Oh, he's the, his pedigree is impeccable of his family's connections that was someone was trying to explain to me epstein and we were talking about it the the epstein island

thing like why would people go there and i'm like because other people were there yes but it's also if you're like fucking bill clinton's there for sure we're safe him and uh tony blair to go they'll show up at anything if you give me the right amount of money. They'll sit with this kid in board shorts and like unkempt hair and talk about crypto. But that is one of the wildest things that Epstein did is get all those prominent people to go and it's not just guilt by association. It's also

like it's a greeting card for all the other people. Yeah. Like have you ever been invited to a party and they'll tell you someone famous is gonna go? Yes. It's a weird thing. Like you go drew Carey might be there like oh drew care might be there I'm right there too then I'd like to meet you care Yeah, why would and play you know all the the famous like gift baskets at award shows sure like? celebs love getting like

Hooked up like that's a thing of Any of the things that's a good side effect of if you're in any kind of show business like when you get hooked up like that's a thing of any of the things that's a good side effect of if you're in any kind of show business like when you get hooked up like yeah you're like oh i could go backstage at a thing get free ray bands yeah so like at all levels they love that at all levels yeah there used to be like a place you'd go for like these award shows and there was these tents and you guys first time i met ice cube i was's up, Ice Cube? We were both in this fucking stupid tent. They were giving away all kinds of shit, man. They were giving away fucking trips to places, free trips.

They give you free trips. They give you jewelry. This is for what? For whatever. Some stupid award show. I don't even remember which one it was. I remember the Emmys. I got a free basket.

I wasn't getting the whatever primo Emmy thing, but I got that t-shirt of Bruce Lee as a DJ that- Yes, yes, yes. It's like a $600 t-shirt. Is it really? That's hilarious. It was something like that, and I remember seeing it in Iron Man. Tony Stark is wearing it, but that was like, it was all that kind of stuff.

Oh, inside. They would custom make you a pair of shoes. I never bothered to go. That's hilarious. Take my handmade shoe coupon. Yeah, they always did that stuff. It might have been the Emmys. But I went to a few of those things.

You were the best at Haskett? I had to go to one of those when Phil Hartman was nominated for an Emmy. Oh, really? And this was after he was murdered. So the whole cast of news radio is sitting in the audience just hoping that Phil's going to win. And Phil didn't win. The dude from Frasier won. And Dave Foley turns to me and goes, what the fuck does a guy have to do to win?

Wow. Wow Dude Dave Foley in the moment One of the fucking sharpest guys ever I think he's funny I do man The way he said it The way he looked at me It was like Perfect timing You know that kid's in the whole movie

With the The drug company There's a lot of like weirdly Oh yeah Ahead of it In fact they got a lot of weird Ahead of their time stuff Yeah and like the Simpsons in a way.

Yeah, they had a whole thing like they predicted the woke takeover in like 1993. Oh yeah, we just played that art class one. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. You know, I just realized the ultimate gift basket for Slibs is the one FTX did with just a shit ton of money. Yeah, that's the best.

That's better than a designer t-shirt. If that guy didn't go to war with that other guy That's what happened right that dude dumped all of his coins. He he sold all his coins. I really couldn't cover it Yeah, yeah, that was his like rival Yeah, they had he had a whole back door installed in that so that his kind of house, one of girlfriend or whatever she is, ran Alameda Research. Right. And then they had some back door.

They funneled off like $10 billion into that. The whole thing is so wild. They were just on speed playing with fake money. It's so funny to watch the videos where it's obvious and all you need is people to be on board. Yeah. If all the right people are on board, that's all it takes. It's like the Epstein Island thing.

Yeah. Everyone, it's like everything's to train you to get to be, like you don't really get to pick if you say whatever your politics, right? Right. Whatever you would call yourself, you don't get to decide that. Like we'll let you know what you are. Right. You could decide maybe a gender.

You go ahead and pick out a gender, honey. But you're not getting to pick. Everything else about your identity will be assigned to you from now on you can only even that can only be assigned if it's convenient you see what happened with the non-binary shooter oh yeah the transgender person on television says i could tell by looking at them that that's a man well what are you what do they do in that situation where they have we played it on jimmy's show that is such a crazy thing to say like that is against everything you supposedly stand for did you see initially so it's al franken some other white guy the the reporter the woman and then i can't remember the black guy's name but she she's like so first hearing the non-binary thing so now they're in a bad spot right as you're supposed to like immediately go along with that right

they're resistant and she's and this is like really screwing up their narrative of whatever they were gonna say the this person was right and so they had to turn the black guy cuz they're like I hope cuz we're white like we can't say anything like I hope this is enough of a shield for us to say we don't want to accept that this shooter is non-binary. And then they had to get a trans woman to come and go, you don't look non-binary to me. It's just so crazy to say. The whole rule is set up that way. In fact, I first heard about, from that guy Adam Curry on here, ESG, a long time ago.

And I was like, oh oh is that what that it? I was wondering we're all this bizarre It sounds like it's a tax write-off. It's so Like I think they must be making money in some way a grant to do this. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Yeah It's wild. That's what they're profiting off of a mind virus You could juke the numbers however you want. If you pay, you pay into it. Yeah.

I like like a carbon, like your personal carbon. And it sounds good. You're trying to make the world a better place, a more equitable place, a beautiful place, a more just place, more diverse place. He said that openly. Sounds great. And also that it was bullshit openly to someone he thought was giving him a favorable article. to someone he thought was giving him a favorable article.

Because they're all really, really kid gloves with this FDX kid. He must have paid out. It is weird how they're kid gloves with him, right? Like some places not at all, and other places like trying to paint him as a person who just made mistakes. Yeah, the whole point of giving somebody a shit ton of money is not so you have to give them orders of what to they just have it inside like no he's one of the good ones i know we're like we hate billionaires here but this guy gave us like millions yeah he duked out doesn't bill gates do that too doesn't he donate like millions and millions of dollars to these

he used to be a hated guy well Well, he still is by some. But I mean, in the media, I remember that when he was like a bad guy, you know, when they had the antitrust. Right. And now they can't say enough. And then you find all these things, like Common, I didn't have kids,

so I remember Common Core came out and I would just hear everybody complaining about Common Core. That's his, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation money made that a national thing I didn't know about that at the time like a ton yeah listed at speaking at a New York Times event

yeah soon oh and he'll be there he says which is crazy do they arrest him on the spot? I don't think so that's wild what happens there? wait go down a little bit Do they arrest him on the spot? I don't think so. That's wild. What happens there?

I don't know. Wait. Oh, go down a little. See, wait. Go down a little bit. Yeah, Larry Fink. So that's the guy. I think he's the guy that invented ESG, right? That's his thing, isn't it?

CEO of BlackRock. So there's all these business folks. Benjamin Netanyahu. There's people in the Bahamas looking for him right now from the crypto community. Wow. They're hunting him down. It's a real Epstein Island of notable people coming. Oh, you got to imagine.

There's probably some bad people that lost millions. Billions? Yeah. I don't know how much people really had involved. I mean, a lot of people did, but I mean, some of them are bad people. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, yeah. Can you imagine?

All these people know. Like Van Jones, especially, you know that guy knows the deal yeah you can you imagine all these people know like Van Jones especially you know that guy knows the deal cuz they got him on camera what's his name filmed them you know this is all bullshit talking about Russiagate remember yeah I'm freeing the guy's name buddy very tough yeah James O'Keefe so that's him I mean it's not cut anyway Van Jones is saying it I know a bunch of people from especially being in New York and all the comics would do cable news stuff, like Red Eye.

You meet these people, and they're all like, they all know the game and assume you do too. And then if I meet people that think it's all like, they just can't imagine something nefarious was. Oh yeah, of course. Zelensky's there. He's not busy. Boy, that guy really. He didn't give a speech with a tie on. He's not busy. Boy, that guy really...

He didn't give a speech with a tie on. He's getting around. You gotta remember the guy was a comic. Did you see Sean Penn? I know. Yeah. Did you see Sean Penn give him his... Gabe Ben is Oscar.

I wanna know for which movie. Didn't Sean win a bunch of Oscars? He should. He should. He should win an Oscar. If he hasn't, he should have. But who is that for? It's not the people in Ukraine.

They're like, oh, that's for you at home to go, oh. Well, Sean Penn's expressing his support. I love that he's just like the greatest tool. You know what I think? He got Chapo caught with his dumb- He's got balls. He's got balls. The fact that he went down to meet Chapo, that is wild.

Did you see the thing? That guy's got fucking balls. Well, can you imagine being him? Imagine being Sean Penn. Right. You go to Mexico to meet El Chapo. Yeah, right. How many people has El Chapo killed?

You know? Loaned it. But do you know the story of that? Oh, he loaned it to him. Loaned it. Yeah, if you lose the war, I want it back. Bring it back to me when you come. I guess when you come to.

When you win, bring it back to Malibu. When you host the Academy Awards next year, please bring it back. That is such a great statement. When you win, bring it back to Malibu. Like, what better place for a fucking completely disconnected celebrity to request a guy in the middle of a war to come to?

It's amazing. That's like a Coen Brothers movie line. Dude, how are they this like, without even knowing anything about the situation, if you just live through the last ridiculous like ridiculous disasters that we should not have done right like how would you be all in on this we just assume like everything you're hearing is a lie after the last like

i don't know 20 years some people don't and some people don't know what to think i'm in the don't, and some people don't know what to think. I'm in the don't know what to think category. I don't think there's a good or a bad going on here. It's obviously bad that Russia invaded Ukraine. It's definitely not good that there's a war going on. And I don't understand why this can't be negotiated. Like, can it be negotiated? That's a good question. Why can't it be?

And why is there – well, I don't know. Watch Jimmy's show. I don't want to bring the heat down on you. Dave Smith has talked about all this stuff already. Dave Smith talked about it in great detail. Dave gave one of the best breakdowns of how this all happened in the first place. And he actually showed this video of this guy who wrote a book about this in 2014 on the Colbert Show. The old Colbert Show.

Yeah. this guy who wrote a book about this in 2014 on the Colbert show, the old Colbert show, where he's explaining the strategy and about how Ukraine is Robin and Batman is Russia. We want to steal Robin away from Batman. Openly. Openly. Talking about it on television as a joke about a book he wrote. He's joking about stealing Ukraine and making Ukraine join the EU.

That's the thing. These aren't conspiracy things. These are just, if you just have any memory of stuff that we used to be on, they would talk about this openly. It's all so crazy. And now, it's just, what do you do? Like, it's the same thing every goddamn war. And I don't know how you, what it is now, I'm old, so I probably aged out of the demographic

that it matters if I believe in it or not, you know? So. Well, I think less people buy the official narrative more than ever But people get caught in camps, right? And if your camp left-wing your camp pro Ukraine your pro the negative I don't want to hear any negative things that as of or what do they call now the celebrated as Yeah, you don't want to hear anything negative. It's going to not, because it's imperative that Ukraine win.

And there's like these narratives. Now, do you know actual people? Because the people I know who would maybe say that that aren't bots or they're either like real plugged in and it's a real social credit in some circles, I guess is how I take it. But I know they just now learned it wasn't called the Ukraine probably around February.

That's clear. Did you see all the bots that attacked Elon with the exact same sentence? Yeah. The exact same sentence about one guy shouldn't have all that power. It's the exact same sentence over and over and over again with all these different fake accounts. And someone posted like a screenshot of it, of the same phrase being used by all these people. Not reposting. It's not reposting.

They're just cut and pasting into all these different fake accounts. Yeah, right. That are pretending to be people, which is what Elon said when he bought Twitter. Like when he was buying Twitter. I wonder about that, like what he learned in the course of, because that was a real roller coaster ride, right? Everybody forgot about it for a minute. He learned some shit. I bet.

Yeah, he learned some shit. And I think that's probably why everybody got fired. I mean, I think he probably felt like a lot of people weren't necessary or he wanted to put all new people in. But I also, from one of probably felt like a lot of people weren't necessary or he wanted to put all new people in. But I also, from what things that he said publicly, like, there's some shit going down. Like, what those people were supposed to do and what they were actually doing and the way they were censoring people. It was real. Well, you watch his stupid, like, I'm sure that he, anyone there that got cleared out, I have no, no, uh, Oh,

I'll bet they were really valuable. I don't even, I don't even think of it. I see them reporting. I'm like, these are the people that made it great. Like, are they? I'll bet they weren't. Well, you've seen the project Veritas videos on that. Yeah.

Talk to people about openly like stopping people's tweets from getting out, shadow banning them. Yeah. It's all not conspiracy. They open, first of all's all not conspiracy Oh shadow ban just to begin with how is that okay right there's some guy I think that's not brush along video to the guy that came up with it with some creep like so he's like creepy like tech people they're all like you know like a rhetoric reddit moderator level kind of person which is you know I don't know how brutal that is but he came up

with that like as a little like wouldn't it be a great way like to just ban and they don't even know why they're banned and it just took off through the whole industry that's wild it's wild that that's a real thing how's that allowed it is loud though somehow or another it allowed, and you and I are probably both on it. Yeah, I'm sure. Let me hit this weed again. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Yeah, well, I'm sure all these people are going to...

Well, all these people are freaking out because Elon is opening the gates to everybody to come back. Yeah, they're all mad about the wrong things. He's like, if you haven't committed a crime, you should come back. I don't think he's right about the Alex Jones thing. Well, I think he believes that Alex Jones lied on purpose to profit. Well, here's the weird part. Alex Jones didn't get kicked off of Twitter for saying anything about Parkland. No, he didn't. He got kicked off for making fun of like Oliver Darcy and saying some like he's like I forget it's something

like an animal coming out of another animals ass like something along those lines I forget what yeah so but the the point is that I think Elon's point was that he he said that his son died his first child believe it was his son died, his first child, I believe it was his son, his first child died in his arms. That's what he said. And that anybody who would profit off of a child's death or willingly lie. Doesn't he work with the Pentagon? Or anyone who would profit off of it. Meanwhile, the Taliban's on Twitter.

But the point is like knowing alex that is not what happened alex had a genuine psychotic break he was losing his fucking mind he was drinking heavily and i think he really truly believed a lot of things that weren't true because he was he was finding out so many things that were true he was going crazy well you know and also drinking a lot. Oh, yeah. That always helps. He really did have a moment where he said, I just was losing my fucking mind.

That doesn't excuse it, right? It's just a fact. I don't know. That's what was going on. I feel like. The guy's right about a lot of shit, man. If you look at his hit rate, is the thing it's like eerie is you know it's because i you know people would say he's a fucking agent i hear that all the time

and um and i and that when i you think of the amount of things that were right but he said them and like the frogs are turning gay that famous clip right yeah it's based on a real story about pollution that's actually affecting wildlife it's actually an important story so he's referring to something that's a real thing yeah it's making it's doing something fucked up to their hormones and i think it makes them intersex or something along those lines yeah it's important but why are you saying it like that because then it makes easy to dismiss so because he's funny yeah that's the thing about alex is like half of what he does is like the entertainment value. But then it's all interwoven in with real shit.

Like he'll say shit and you're like, what? What are you talking about? They had to stop giving the polio vaccine to kids in Africa because they were giving them actual polio. And you hear that and you go, well, that's not true. That can't be true. And then we went to a fucking AP article where they showed that that polio vaccine. When it first came out in America, that's the birth of, I never heard of this. Here's how I found out about it.

I was looking up for something else for a joke for the show. And I was looking up polio because I got that when I was five in the 80s, right? Well, that's when it was perfected. It was perfectly good when I got it. Apparently, and it's not because the vaccine itself was bad. It's because the drug company that first manufactured it accidentally put live polio into it. So it was the actual pharmaceutical company fucked it up. And then some people got polio from it.

And that was the birth of being hesitant about vaccines. People weren't just like, oh, it's black magic. Something happened. And here's the creepiest part of this article that I read. This wasn't someone arguing against uh the covid vaccine this was when trump was in office still doing project warp speed to make sure the vaccine was going to get made and they were all talking how it's bad because trump's doing it so this guy writing this like hey slow down trump you should know why some people might be hesitant if that was if like he i'm sure that same guy would be exactly the opposite.

Today. On command. Yes. Today. That's the thing that's creepy. That is kind of creepy. That it's like, it's not fact-based. It's what does the ideology support?

What does the cult want? Right. The cult wants this. Vaccines are good. And if you, isn't there a strain of polio that's specifically from that like there's a vaccinated strain of polio that some people are catching. Let's find out. Yes. Now is that the thing about New York?

There was some with the water supply. They thought was causing polio. I think no. I think they detected the levels of polio in the waste supply, which would indicate that polio is in the area. I think that's what it is. That's a weird thing. Let's find out one at a time because I want to make sure that the vaccine case of polio is true. Because I think I heard Jimmy say it.

I think it was something that Jimmy talked about. I remember that article talking about them saying it, but I don't remember what the update of it was. I think that's what the assertion was. Here it is. Detection of circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus 2. Vaccine-derived poliovirus is a well-documented type of poliovirus that is mutated from the strain originally contained in the oral polio vaccine. The oral polio vaccine contains a live weakened form of polio virus. I didn't get oral as a kid.

So there's a polio virus 2. Oh, weird. That is vaccine derived. That's crazy. And that's what they were talking about. I got a shot when I was a kid. I didn't get oral. Yeah, it's different.

No, the oral one was the one that the AP was talking about with kids. They were giving it to kids in Africa Africa and they were winding up getting polio from the polio vaccine. That's what Alex talked about. And that's what I was like, there's no fucking way that's true. Pull that up. And he pulls it up and it's not a wacky website.

It's AP news. The scary thing is when you read, you know, that stupid thing of, what if somebody, by the way, I got vaccinated. But people are saying things like what if someone you love needed a bed and then they couldn't get

one in the hospital because an unvaccinated person was taking up the bed I heard this repeated a lot which it's already but this is the thing I didn't think of at the time it's already stupid on the face of it because when they come out and I'm sorry there's an unvaccinated person your loved

one has to die and like uh why are there not enough beds if you know a pandemic is coming wouldn't you think there'd be enough bet they purposely run because it's all private equity that owns the hospitals they run it that way on purpose with not enough beds because it's not cost effective to have enough beds and if you look it up i read there's an article that was bragging about how great this is. It was like an industry thing. It was that way to provide more efficient care. And you can focus on preventable.

It wasn't a thing exposing it. It was a thing explaining why it's great that there's not going to be enough beds from now on. That's the creepy shit. So do they, well, they don't plan for a pandemic, right? It's not like the hospital should have all these beds running 24-7.

In 2018. But once the pandemic hits, like, how much resources would be involved in making sure there's enough beds? Oh, in a lot of places, there were enough beds. That wasn't even a thing that there weren't enough beds. Well, that was the thing, too. It's like there was a lot of propaganda about people that were clogging up remember this story yeah that's a fake story the emergency room in oklahoma because they were having ivermectin overdoses and there was no room for the gunshot wound right and there hadn't been a gunshot wound

in that town and it was all the sheriff had to call yeah and rolling stone ran it yeah by the way that was great that would yeah and and Winter. That clip is unbelievable. That clip was so strange. It really shows you like, because I always wonder like what in the hell this like credulous, like we watched Jon Stewart talking to Hillary and Condoleezza. Did you see that? I tried not to. Oh, it's brutal, dude.

And you can even see on his face. And it's like you could see like Luke Skywalker luke skywalker like i know there is good in you he's like trying to talk to him like that wow and no there isn't dude there and the two of them are horrible and it's the things are saying like i don't even know how you get through the video watch it we didn't we had to stop it every like minute i haven't seen it oh the arrogant it's just. It's a foregone conclusion that it's great for us to keep going everywhere and a regime change, whatever the hell we do that like an alcoholic, like this time is going to be better. Is that what they're saying? I've had people say it to me point blank of like, well, Iraq wasn't, you know, they weren't really,

they couldn't really have democracy, like, culturally. But, like, Ukraine's got a shot at it because they're more, you know, stuff that's, like, maybe not, I don't know if outright racist, but chauvinistic, let's say, you know. Right. But just the idea it's going to, this time, it's going to work. That's amazing. Also, like, what does that make Ukraine? If Ukraine wins in the Ukraine, do they join the UN? Do they never join the UN? Are they a part of NATO? You mean NATO?

They're not in the UN? Or NATO, they're not. NATO, rather. Excuse me, NATO. Right. I've had a lot of marijuana, folks. Yeah. If they do join, I mean, isn't that like the big that was the

big sticking point yeah i if you watch it we play all the clips of it i mean that was what dave smith has said that was the big sticking point was that they're they're moving their weapons closer and closer yeah towards uh the russian border yeah right if if they could get them to join nato there's a whole bunch of people that think that, yeah, NATO should expand as much as possible and it should go every bit like you could hear Condoleezza and Hillary. I mean, imagine the two of them just, that's what,

that's what I'm watching. Jon Stewart sit through. What do you, what do you think was going through his head? I think he's like that. Remember they had that, that rally to restore sanity and it was like a, a real middle.

It's really like the Obama years were great for me. Festival is really what you call it. And a bunch of people I know in their minds, like it was great when Obama got in. And I liked Obama. I was all for Obama at the time. I had no idea of any of the actual things he was doing or like the drone wars.

And then now you realize the left and right is like if you're left, America left, you're for like advanced robot killing. Of mostly innocent people. Of mostly. I mean. Like grossly. Yeah, like 90%. That ain't a good. Can you say collateral damage at that point?

It's collateral survivors at that point. Yeah. collateral damage at that point it's collateral survivors at that point yeah the amount of actual people that they target that get killed yes so somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 so they made it like uh 90 a combatant somebody uh who could be a combatant they at one point they made it anybody over the age of 15 some creepy thing like that right that was during obama so then you could just legally do this stuff trump made it so they don't even have to report the numbers. So those are your choices. That's your two choice. It's like a left Twix and right Twix. Can you imagine you're on your way to a fucking wedding and you hear missiles that get launched from robots? I mean, I got so many cars headed to

the mountains. They assume it's like I have wanted to get out of going to a wedding really bad. And so I'm not the right. But I see what you're saying. That's it's those are the horror stories you always hear like a wedding party. Yeah. Then they get they got a just unbelievable. It's the same sort of cop logic that allow you to steal $10,000 for some kid about to buy a Camaro.

That's a good what cop logic's a good uh yeah that's what they sounded like killing guys bad guys they had cop logic well that was what Julian Assange exposed in that video that was so damning yeah right that moment where that that guy and that was a helicopter right yeah launched those missiles at the photographers yeah right and there's kids that were in a van, and he was like, well, they shouldn't have their kids with them. Which is... Remember the guy that they got by drone that looked like Adrian Brody,

kind of a la Lockie? Yes. And his son had gone to find his dad, you know, and so was with him and died too. And I remember people now who would be like war hawks saying he's an american citizen they just executed now when they got him at the time i remember thinking hey citizenship revoke motherfucker that's how i felt right it didn't even occur to me that if you just they're gonna

do that there what do you what do you think they'll do to you at home not give you the same treatment when it comes down to it whatever they do over there they're gonna do to you at home not give you the same treatment when it comes down to it whatever they do over there they're going to do to you when it's convenient like any kind of fucking gangster that's how it is so but i had no concept of that i remember on 9 11 i was there and i remember everybody was on board with yeah that makes sense go to iraq you got you just got to show them all yeah the idea shocking all of them you know We can't ever have this happen again. Shock and awe. I think it's really great how Islamic fundamentalist terrorists have kind of just stopped wanting to attack us. I guess they see we have so many other things on our plate.

You know how you never- It was the biggest, most important thing, and you never hear about it now. Do you remember when we had the scale? Like, it's orange today yeah for possible terrorist attacks yeah remember they tried that for a little while yeah a lot of people don't remember do you remember it jamie don't worry it was on tv they would go today's yellow relax go outside go to the park where the government is paying attention just to have i mean that's the at the time that came across to me like a- National Terrorism Advisory System.

You know, taking your shoes off at the airport, that's a good- There's one fucking guy. DHS replaced the color-coded alerts of Homeland Security Advisory Systems with the National Terrorism Advisory System in 2011. So they ran that shit for a few years. And they gave it up. And the way it works is you get funding for these stupid things things so they could be idiotic and we'll just go we could take our shoes off at the airport forever and that's how I think about every like yeah every single one guy right one guy tried to blow a shoe up then they could have just looked at his shoes his shoes had visible fuses coming

out of them hey just take a peek at their shoes maybe people stopped him from doing it like he's a shitty lighter so dumb oh yeah oh the ron jeremy one he's got the shoe right there did you ever talk that guy john kirikala call him no he's a interesting dude talk to CIA guy he's the one that revealed the torture program Richard Reed was the guy right so all under his shoe was explosives yeah wow that's crazy you imagine being on a fucking plane and you see a guy lighting his shoe and you're like oh my god I know he already especially if you're like okay I don't want to be phobic and just assume this guy who has a real terrorist look in his eyes. Are you sure?

His look in his eyes, like he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. Look at his eyes. He expected to be. How many of those guys did they talk? Remember that guy that they talked into doing that fake bomb? The FBI courted him. They convinced him that he should blow up this fake bomb. And they gave him a cell phone to blow up the fake bomb.

And then when he tried to activate the fake bomb, they arrested him. Wait, what kind of? Islamic terrorist. He was 19 years old. You know, they do that. I remember at the time looking up what's the most common. Because at the time, there was an argument about Islamic terrorism, how dangerous. Right?

That was the big argument. So I wonder what is the most terrorism? I looked it up and it was, I think it was like 2011. Eco-terrorism was the number one. I was like, eco-terrorism? I guess because it's mostly against property, but there's a guy who, he got it.

I guess how entrapment works is not how I would have thought entrapment works. You could have a kind of shitty person go in undercover and make up a plan with some some guy who's like weak or stupid wouldn't have done it otherwise and they got regular there's like 300 or something cases of that with islamic terrorists but before that was there's a famous one with some kid who's like a virgin and they got a girl to fuck him and draw up a plan he just gave him money you know get some loser yeah and then you catch him and there's funding meanwhile the boston marathon bomber slipped through in fact a bunch of shootings here's a weird commonality a lot of people

noticed something wrong and called both their local police and the fbi and they didn't somehow catch it well wasn't the boston bomber an FBI informant? I never even heard that. Was that true? Was the Boston bomber an informant? Is that speculation? Well, the last thing I saw, because remember Brass Eye? It was like a British fake news thing. It was really funny.

No. This guy named Chris Morris. He made a movie about, and I remember this case in Florida. It was like a black islamic group that had this preposterous plan to ride horses into chicago something crazy but they were set up and i remember on the news seeing what remember they were rounded up the homegrown terrorists and they left behind this one guy that he was like really slow the news he's the only one left of the you could tell he was the runt of the litter of this thing.

And you could tell he was slow. And I remember like, I think Bill Maher made a joke about how it wasn't the A-team of terror, you know? Right. It was like that. And so when I saw this Chris Morris interview later, I'm like, oh, I remember those. There's all these like, where they caught people. I didn't really know the details of it. But the guy was really dumb.

And they probably just talked him into it. Well, how about the Gretchen Whitmire thing? I know. There was 14 people that were trying to kidnap her. 12 of them were FBI informants. That's some kind of, it's like the waste of them. I mean, but that's hilarious. It's like, sounds like some kind of thing to sell more cleaners to me.

Everything sounds like that to me. Right. It sounds like it can't be real. It's something that you have to prove you did something that was in your nature, I think, is the wording, which is very strange. But I found that out on... So they can talk you into doing it

because it was in your nature to do it. How the hell do you have that as law? Unanswered question about Tamerlan Tsarnaev. Yeah. So what are the questions? Well, was he an informant? Terry Dackels, Triceratops. I didn't get a good answer.

Was he a federal informant? How does a federal informant program work? How do federal agents recruit Muslims and other immigrants to become informants? And did Tamerlan Sarnarev, how do you say that? Help me out. Sarnarev? Received special treatment through this program

for his application to become a U.S. citizen. In 2014, as his dad, Dasklar Sarnarev, prepared for his defense, his lawyers filed a motion seeking all documents related to FBI contact with Tamerlan. Why they believe,

Oh, that's the other dude. Uh, they believe that Tamerlan had been a federal informant. They wrote, we based this information from our client's family and other sources that the FBI made more than one visit to talk to Tamerlan and asked him to be an informant reporting on the Chechen and Muslim community.

We base this information from our clients. That's it. That's the highlight of things. So I tried to read down it to find out any confirmation. It's really long. There are some ties. He's listed in this visual here. So because they even approached him, that set him off because he was already going in that vein?

Is that what I'm... Did you see as a boxer they focused on him in this? This is from 2010. And what is it about? This was used to sell people an excerpt from Boston University graduate student publication. The comment which featured him in 2010. Scroll back up again.

This is just a long article. Yeah, I know this is there was someone here it is uh he desperately wanted citizenship in 2010 he was featured in a magazine um you help us we'll help you mcfee tells uh mcfee tells radio boston according to he went over to to uh dagestan i think where he was trying to, according to some officials, get involved with some fighters, which according to this, then they didn't let him in because of his ties to a conspicuous Western culture, it says right here, conspicuous Western fighters.

So that's why I was trying to read this. It's a very long article. I couldn't find it out. I don't even know if this has an actual answer. So that's like a perfect guy to approach to be like, hey, you want to find stuff? And if he's already paranoid. Especially if he's a boxer and he wants to be a u.s citizen yeah and they can get him to similarly i found this article in new york times which goes into

someone very similar they tried to find a nuclear specialist and get him to do a bomb and this long article goes into i guess there's a bunch of hold Hold on, say that again. He did not go through with this. I think he saw through whoever was trying to get at him. Oh, same kind of deal. Okay. Yeah, they do that all the time, I think. It's not even breaking the law. The law is like you could do a crazy amount of entrapment.

I wasn't aware of that. That is nuts. It's nuts that that's funded by tax dollars to Did you drink people? Did you ever see the thing? I just sent it to 30 years despite his concerns of entrapment. This is yeah, so he wasn't let Fuck you're concerned. He got fucked. They still put him away. Yeah. Yeah Why they put away because he was thinking about it. Yeah again. I didn't cuz he was talking to them about it Did you imagine if you're hanging around with dudes who are talking about blowing up a nuke in Manhattan? And you're in the same cell as them same terror cell and you're like

Yeah, man sounds like a good idea sounds like a plan It's one thing recording this but they turn out to be the FBI, but you are just you're never planning on doing it Yeah, just think you're freaked out. Oh, that these guys want to blow up a fucking noob. What do you say? If this is your group of people. Yeah, that's what people did when I was doing Sasha's thing. Because people will sense something weird. Sasha Baron Cohen.

Yeah. And they'll sense something weird and go along with it. Especially real reality show kind of people. They're just like, camera, oh, I just do the thing and don't think about the thing and do it and right or the the There was it made the news But it was the guy was freaked out and he did try to like remember there's some news that some guy brought up like a pedophile ring or something There's some guy that thought

It turned out to not be that at all It was like a guy but people be scared when they hear you bring up some kind of illegal thing and they might act like it's okay and then go report it you know hopefully that's what are you talking about pedophile thing what i don't remember the exact thing but one of the guys they did a prank on the something and it and that first it went around like a rumor that oh yeah you know what i'm talking about that's right and i called my friend he was like it it turned out the guy with he was afraid because he just heard this and went along with the thing and

so it was nothing but people will will go along with something if you skip me i mean right you know especially five guys right also some people they're like you could get them to talk about almost anything like there's some people that like you know what i mean like yeah there's there's a certain level of unsophisticated person if you're around them and you start talking about ghosts they're like oh yeah yeah they just just go with it right you're talking about sam harris on uh trigonometry i'm like holy are you saying this for real i wish he hadn't used those words. Well, I love that he did because it's so like, it's such like an obvious thing, but like a bunch of people not as bright as him would know not to say that.

He feels very strongly anti-Trump in a way that, you know, what do they call it? Trump derangement syndrome. Every time I think that's just some kind of phrase, I'll see a new example where I'm like, this is amazing. He literally goes, yeah, no, it's a conspiracy. That's good, we have to do it. Like you're the Dark Knight with the Joker

and you got a spy on everybody's phone that one time. See, the thing is, it's the one good thing about someone like Trump even being able to become president, which is so crazy, it just shows you how bananas this system really is. That's the problem with him is that mainly because, you know, people that think he's going to help. I want to work out for you. But guess what? There ain't no help coming.

I don't think there's help coming either. I give it to Candace Owens that interview with Trump where she brought up Eric Snowden and Julian Assange. And Trump said, he was like, well, I should have. I've never even heard of Trump saying I should have done something different. Like, that's amazing to get that out of him. That's one of those ones where if he did, who the fuck knows what would have happened. I mean, that's like a fucking take a ride in a convertible through Dallas moment. All these things I would have dismissed, especially stuff like JFK, Oliver Stone.

Yeah. JFK's a movie, right? That kind of thing. There's probably an explanation. Just the fact that you would delay it another whatever. 55 years. Something like that. Why?

Automatically, yeah. What could the reason be? Is it something good? at another whatever 65 years, something like that? Like automatically. Yeah. What could the reason be? Is it something good? I'm sure you have our best interest in mind. You always do. Why would you not want to tell us this right now? Yeah. What about this could people not handle something that happened in 1963?

Go. Also, what about all the data of the safe, effective vaccine that I got? They want to hold back for 75... Really? 75 years. But they're making them do it quicker. Yeah, the judge... We don't have enough people to go through and put

black... You're allowed to redact. Did you see the EU hearings? And they're asking about the data. And the guy's holding up what they were given. And it's all blacked out except for one line here and there. That's just the contract with the drug companies that the guy's government made. That's proprietary information.

Well, think about Sam Bankman Freed. Yeah. Now, multiply that many, many times. Yeah. And you got the amount of money that's rolling around. And it's just getting in everybody's pockets. It's the same goddamn thing. Creating influence everywhere you go.

Dude, the same people that made, what's the movie about, you know, Steve Carell's in it and Batman's in it? Yeah. About the 2008 thing? That thing keeps going. Like, it's never. Big Short. The Big it. Yeah. About 2008. That thing keeps going. Like, it's never. What is it? Big Short. The Big Short.

Yeah. All that stuff Matt Taibbi wrote about has never been addressed or fixed in any way. No. No, and Matt Taibbi did a brilliant job of breaking it down to someone who's never studied the markets before, and you just go, what?

Yeah, right. That's how you guys were doing this? Like, this whole thing is insane. And then the whole thing about you have to bail them out and then the people that you bail out are allowed to get bonuses, like giant bonuses. Yeah, right. You have to give them the bonus

because otherwise they're going to leave and go somewhere else. Like what? What the fuck are you saying? The country's on fire. The WeWork guy? You ever see WeWork? Yeah, what happened with that? So like a billion dollars out of what was it?

It was like a tech company, but their tech was selling office space or renting office bait, which is not tech and He just got all you to do is just be barefoot and talk about some kind of goop kind of shit Do rich people just I Was talking to uh this dude pasta who has a good uh podcast i do his buddy steve we're talking about hawaii you know you just went to you could make a whole living steve said you just bring a didgeridoo to hawaii and walk along the beach just playing and you could get some kind of patronage eventually. And that's like a therapy. Like, it really is just a... Those are the weirdest fucking...

That's like Viking shit. Like, where'd that come from? Is it a Maori thing? Is that a New Zealand thing? I thought it was an Aboriginal thing. Is that what it is? That's a great fucking sound. I gotta believe that they never the aborigines never enjoyed their own didgeridoos as much as a white guy with

dreadlocks Wow look at them look how cool that looks holy shit they're wearing these wild like paint all over their body and these crazy outfits. I want to hear that. Okay. Can we hear it? I mean, that guy could clean up in Hawaii if he showed up. Fuck yeah. Those guys are on the beach.

It's such a fucking psychedelic sound. Yeah, right. If you were doing mushrooms in a teepee with a fire in the center right and you you hear that sound fuck yeah we're tripping doing a didgeridoo solo right now yeah bro i'm tripping balls just listening to him. Imagine you hear that sound, and you have a cold camp because you're trying to hide, and you're hoping that they don't find you.

I mean, can I tell you what I appreciate? The aboriginals are ready to come kick your ass, and you hear this from the top of the mountain? Fuck. I'm Tom Selleck in Quigley Down Under waiting. This guy, you can tell, is like the Steve Vai of didgeridoo. That's wild. Well, I mean, I like...

My buddy Adam Greentree works with a lot of Aboriginal people. He runs a mining company in Australia. And he said that there's so many languages that they call them mobs. Oh, yeah, right, right. Instead of a tribe, they call themselves a mob. And one mob might not understand what another mob 100 kilometers away speaks. Really? Yep.

Oh, no shit. He said it's wild. And he said a lot of it's not written down either, unfortunately. So, like, if they die, if they die off, and sometimes they'll have, like, you know, historically, they were poisoned by people that lived there. Yeah, right. They were poisoned by the settlers. Oh, yeah, yeah,'s crazy. They lost like giant groups of them. There's like a cave He was telling me about and if you go there, there's like a whole mob that was killed with poison

They gave him poison. Oh, yeah, really? It's a really bad There's Adam That's my buddy in the cave Well, there's there's a cave that my buddy I might have been in the cave but I don't mind that being well there's there's a cave that had it was filled with bones yeah right Quigley Down Under

was about a lot of that but they were shooting at originals but it's really wild what happened Quigley Down Under yeah you ever see that with Tom Selleck

no I never saw that oh yeah he he shows up and it's all about that how they were massacred not he wasn't doing it but I guess Quigley I don't think it's a real guy. They would steal their children and make them be adopted by white people.

Well, that's a Canada. Quigley Down Under. Canada has a whole history of that, right? Yeah, they did that too, I think, right? The pictures, they'll have pictures of the whole thing, and they make them in black and white, even though it wasn't black and white. This is like 1975. Yeah, to create emotional distance from the event. Oh, Jesus Christ

that's crazy this was a long time ago back when there was only paintings you put it in black and white people are like get over it

isn't that funny that's all you have to do put it in black and white and people are like oh just make it a Polaroid make it a Polaroid

like clearly big white strip on the bottom oh it's a Polaroid wait do clearly big white strip on the bottom. Oh, it's a Polaroid. Wait, do you know, I was just thinking, can you only play that one song on Didgeridoo? I've only heard one song. Well, I think you get to make your own sort of sound. Because there's no, it's all in what noises you're making in that giant ass tube.

Did you see that Dune movie where they? the new one they made and The guy there's like they're doing some sacrifice. I didn't see the new dune. Oh, there's a cool good Yeah, it's pretty I mean I thought done as well as you could do it and but the guy's doing that throats. It's not you know the Not type that that throat singing where though it's like almost like some mongol shit and they make a didgeridoo. Oh, yeah, here we go. It's right in the beginning of this.

Yeah. It's like that monk chant. That's what Duncan Trussell does before he goes to sleep. Wow. This is fucking cool. Yeah, it was pretty good. Bro, he goes to sleep. Wow. This is fucking cool. Yeah, it was pretty good. Bro, I need to see this movie. I saw the original one.

Way back in the Disney. I saw the, like a long copy of it that doesn't, it was like George C. Scott doing the opening and not. Oh, really? The one where the girl who plays the princess is doing it is one of the worst she goes oh when i forgot one more thing she says that in the opening crawl the planet's called dune it's such a bad cut but i think this was an alan smithy one some when i was in art school my friend tom had it was and it was uh it I liked it a lot. Do you think we're sliding into some science fiction movie dystopia?

It's just happening. Yeah. Slowly and unstoppably. I think it happened 20 years ago and you're just slowly learning of it now. And we're going to wake up one day when things are horrific. And that will be our normal existence. And if we saw that today, we'd be terrified we'd be terrified of where it's going to be like the terminator it's going to be like flying drones that know where your location is at

all times to that movie that you showed that collapse movie which i remember when that came out and how bizarre that is that it's getting like great reviews back then because it was like kind of right wingy well that's not right that doesn't even sound right no it's like anti that's what they would say now yeah that's what they would say now you think it's bad to the wars whether you're really right way like do you even know right so nothing means anything it's all like a label that could be changed at a moment's notice and you're supposed to forget what it meant like two weeks ago the fact that it can be changed at a moment's notice and the fact that you can get people to support war,

you can get people to ignore the existence of the military industrial complex and the amount of money that is involved in that and the influence that that has. Dude, that's the worst part of that Jon Stewart thing where he, because you can see he's like, he's like, no, I'm not trying to hold your feet if he keeps doing that

because he wants to get to something. then what he gets to is okay i know do you think this isn't like cost effective for our empire the only appeal he makes to him is maybe we're stretching our empire too thin and is it fiscally risk that's all he'll broach the topic with them that's how fucking warped it is but is that that's the only way you could have that conversation with them Do they have that's what I think well Yeah Why would they even show up to the wood John push that or would John know the things he thinks get access to these people's You have to do to have these kind of interviews with them

I would love to know because first of all there's no way he doesn't know by now that that metal he put on the guy That was a guy with a Nazi tattoo now. He probably knows. There's no way he doesn't know. Yeah, he probably knows now. It's just a thing of having faith in the, like, let's not give up on this, does not. It still works. Like, what's his name, Jan Wenner? Mm-hmm.

The thing where he's like, yeah, the drug supply is really safe. He was watching somebody who's like a legendary founder of a thing who's like, so like, no, like Ben and Jerry are in charge now. And it's the good people are the establishment. It's all being taken care of. And they don't read.

They know people. So they just assume it's all. They assume everything is fine because that's what the narrative is. And if you're a good person, you go with the narrative. There you go. Do you remember when they had the fucking Boston bomber on the cover and they got criticized because he was hot? Oh, yeah. Do you remember when they had the fucking boston bomber on the cover and they got criticized because he was hot oh yeah do you remember that he had those find that photo yeah he looks like a teen idol yeah he's a handsome fella the dreamboat dreamboat terrorist

not like the meaner older brother with his yeah look at him there yeah no i mean he does look like a boy band uh look at that he He looks like he's some fucking new guy. He's the new hot guy the girls have on their wall. Were they Chechen? I don't know what he was. Because I thought that was something like that. Well, that wasn't that long ago, huh? Yeah, because-

Kerry Clark Jr. Remember back when we had no problem with Russia because the Chechens and Muslim terrorists and they cragged down on that? This whole thing is wild. But the fact that they found it disgusting and shameful, tasteless, a slap in the face to America. Boston public officials have issued similar appraisals. Mayor Thomas Menino called it a total disgrace. CVS Walgreens and other local retailers have promised not to sell the issue.

Wow. Well, you gotta admit- But that's just because his face was cute. Yeah, looking- Scroll back up. Imagine if you look like Harvey Weinstein. I mean, you tell me he's not way hotter than the FTX kid? He's hot.

They got full page- Look at him, he's a handsome fellow. I know, I think he didn't do it the more I look at his picture. I don't think he could have with those lips. But if his head was shaved and he was ugly, would they still have him on the cover? But the thing is, why do they have him on the cover? Why take a terrifying, awful situation like that and make the person a star? Well, number one, that's the most important thing is to sell.

I'll bet you sell a bunch of copies of Rolling Stone With that as the cover a dreamy terrorist. Would you like to be in the room when they made that call? We put the terrorist dreamboat on the cover or Gary Clark jr. Oh Cuz Gary Clark jr. So the cover to who's Gary Clark jr. He's the baddest motherfucker alive You don't know Gary Clark. I think I think dozer source right Sarah tops is more bad than him He's one of the greatest guitarists ever lived't know who Gary Clark Jr. is? I think Dozer, Sorcerer, Stripes, Aerotops is more bad than him. He's one of the greatest guitarists that's ever lived. Oh, oh, oh. I thought you meant like...

No, he's alive right now. He lives in Austin, Texas. He's the fucking man. Oh, I didn't know anything about him. Him and Suzanne Santo did a cover of Midnight Rider once. I saw it at a live club. To this day, like one of the greatest musical performances I've ever seen. It's Gary Clark Jr.'s version of the Allman Brothers' Midnight Rider with Suzanne Santos singing.

And she doesn't totally know the words, so she Googled it and got the fucking lyrics on her phone. She's singing perfectly her version of Midnight Rider off of a fucking phone impromptu. Where were you? It was like a small club in downtown L.A. Oh, no shit yes i was with my oldest daughter and suzanne and gary clark jr and ben because uh honey honey was together back then and it was like some smirnoff thing or some shit some fucking liquor company put together some event where they were going to perform live there There was like 150 people in the room.

It was like a midnight on a Tuesday in downtown LA and was fucking amazing. And I recorded some of it and put it on the Instagram. Find the video. It was so fucking good, dude. This video from my stupid phone is only going to capture like a, just a trace of the magic in the room. But when it was happening in the room, it was like, holy shit, this is good. You reminded me of... Here it is.

That's Gary Clark Jr., motherfucker. Oh, I know who that is. Okay. Listen to that. clark jr motherfucker okay listen to that and this is just from my phone right you know how good this sounded there yeah no i was gonna say a phone's gonna be like the least it's jameson that's good. See, she's reading the lyrics right now off her phone. Look at that.

She doesn't know them. How wild was that? Was that the end of it? You know what you just reminded me of, dude? Artie Lange's story of when, remember Prince played a Silent Live party, like the after party of Saturday Night Live one time? Oh yeah? It was one night when I went to that party

and it was with Artie Lang. I want to say Frank Sebastiano. But Prince was supposed to show up. I guess maybe he did much later, but Artie wanted to sit in the front row and heckle him and scream, he goes, play Raspberry Beret! He was just going gonna be a fat guy he wanted prince to see a fat guy raspberry beret thank god he didn't do that yeah i think prince went to like

the real after party or something was what it was there's like a real one. I had a chance to see Prince once live at the foundation room at the House of Blues in Vegas. I decided it was too late. I'm going to go to sleep. You know what I saw him one time in person? At Ben Gleib's birthday party.

Really? Yeah, first time. He was walking around? It was at this club and Prince came in. He was real, because, you know, he was a Jehovah Witness

for a minute. Prince was? Oh, yeah. So I wanted to ask him know, he was a Jehovah Witness for a minute. Prince was? Oh yeah, so I wanted to ask him all about, but you can't even get near Prince. Christian scientists are the ones that don't let you go to the doctor, right? I'm not really clear. I know that was something part of it at one point, but that's

Not Jehovah Witness, though. No, that's Mary Baker Eddy. So was he Jehovah Witness as a child like you were? Or was he late adopter? No, as of that. So was he Jehovah's Witness as a child like you were? Or was he late adopter? Yeah. Really? Yeah, he went door to door.

Whoa. How old was he? I don't know. I feel like Chris Rock had a joke about it or something. Somebody had a joke about it, about Prince knocking on your door. It was when he was an adult. All I'm hearing about Chris Rock is that he's on fire right now oh i bet all this like getting slapped by will smith and the academy applaud i think that lit a fire into that dude all i've been hearing i heard he destroyed here in austin watch that that recording

uh also right before that so you know tim dilla right yeah i did a live show with him he had at the at the main room okay and after chris ryle came up and talked to me like that was really fun it was like really cool okay and he hit me up a couple weeks later to maybe help write jokes for stuff you know like so i was like awesome he was like an awesome guy like i talked to him for a couple hours on the phone we talked and so i didn't know what the timetable, cause he did mention jokes for the Oscars. Okay. But I don't know when all that stuff is and I'm not good with email. So we, you know, I know where this is going. Yeah. So it didn't, so I just figured he texts me, you know, but you

know, that's how like Louis was emailing I don't so I was getting like all this like emails from the guy I'm like oh and I'm working on Kyle's thing and like Jimmy's thing I had no concept of when anything was okay so I had to go do Winnipeg and while I was coming home from Winnipeg

I get a call from my manager she's like did you write a joke about Will Smith's White like and I go oh shit with it the Oscars was tonight so you're responsible I like to think I'm not so you wrote the GIG cuz I think no I think that was an in the moment thing well I think I was an emo because when I watch that I know well this is why I'll be thinking which it looks to me

Like Chris, well, I guess thinking is you're right first of all, this is the worst gig ever being a funny comedian at the Oscars That's a terrible gig, right? And he's not a big like improv got like he likes to do jokes Yeah, a polish him, you know, so Will Smith is coming on stage and you're like, all right, I'm gonna have to it's an Oscar moment Right, so I got to get ready whatever Will Smith wants to improv. And I'll bet you, up until Contact, I'll bet you he thought it was like a fake. Right. I'm sure, like that's what I would have thought. Right.

And I would have been, because I don't like to have to deal, like until it hit him, I bet he didn't even realize it was an actual thing until right when it hit him. I think he didn't hit him hard. No, but I mean. I think he just't hit him hard. No, but I mean. I think he just did that. It's still shocking. I mean, definitely. When people are like, you know, like, why didn't you knock him down?

I don't think he hit him hard. I think he probably wanted to hit him hard, then realized when he was about to hit him. It's such a, it's such a. It's so weird to watch. Oh my God. Did that really happen? It was a terrible slap. Yeah. And then you're then you're like oh i gotta keep the show going like this is a big gig there's nothing worse than now

he's feeling it right now his adrenaline spiked he's like what the fuck keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth look at chris i, what a hell gig, dude. Anyway, I bet he has a great set right now. I hear he's fucking murdering. Segura went to see him. He said it was awesome. He said it was awesome. He said it's like Chris Rock from Bigger and Blacker,

like Bring the Pain, like that level. Just boom, just crushing. smith reignited the beast holy shit yeah i mean think about it man he probably wanted to be a part of that whole fucking industry thing that's why you host the oscars in the first place right oh that's a good point too and then get slapped by this guy who winds up winning the Oscar and they give him a fucking standing ovation after you got slapped by that guy Once you all cheer and stand up like once you see it you can't unsee it. Yeah, right? Yeah, these are crazy people These are crazy people. I saw it. I remember when what's his name at the Emmys when Jeffrey Tambor won for Transparent remember he got like me too'd off that show? Mm-hmm. Because he was sexually harassing

their trans co-stars? They were saying that. Yeah, and I remember, so this is before any Caitlyn Jenner or anything. He was saying he didn't do anything. I mean, I kind of believe,

I think they wanted him off the show. So here's why I think they just want him off the show. When, uh, because, well, I think Jill Soloway

is not Jill Soloway now. But at the time, Okay. won the Emmy. I remember she was like fight the patriarchy like sweetie do you think the patriarchy's not in charge of you you have this reminder to let you know who's in charge it's like all sharp

you know it'll stab you if you so he goes if I could be the last cis man to play a trans woman I wouldn't be sad and the whole crowd's like I'm just watching it's like it's like if Al Jolson was like if I could be the last blackface performer and they're all like And so just a couple years later, I'm sure all those people be like how dare you have played But they were all rooting for it. I don't like, I've been happy as I've never even watched a show. Probably more. Do you know the hardcore feminists are now, well, the TERFs are now using the term woman face?

I've been saying that. I have a whole joke about that for a while. And I've yet to hear why. I remember years ago asking somebody, a producer, when that was Rachel Dolezal. Remember? Right. And I was just asking this.

This was not as big a controversy of a thing at the time, but I was like, well, how is that different, you know? Because I knew a bunch of people that were trans, it was in New York for 20 years. They're transracial. Yeah, like, I'm just asking why can't you be that, okay? I've never gotten a, and I've tried to find a satisfying answer. I've never gotten one.

But this person, I'll never forget. I thought about, he just goes, Kurt, that's the answer. Like, I thought about that for years, dude. It's just like, don't do this. That's the answer to just asking a question like that. And in fact, I say every everything i can't stand in every business is the uh is that the hill you want to die on i've heard people that's a good one that's a good one i've heard people say for a year and what what the fuck does that mean that

means like you're running for office do i tell the truth about this now or do i save my political capital for like when it's really important to be honest like you're right I'm not running for anything I can be honest whatever the fuck I want but you're supposed to have that like is this the hill why do I have to die in a hill about you're asking a question that's a legitimate question but it's a funny thing that there's certain things you're not allowed to question. Yeah, Kanye was right about that part of knowing you shouldn't talk. Like, I remember in his interview, right, with Tucker, Kyle did an impression of it.

Did he? Yeah, he did. Oh, I did see that. The rap, when he does the rap thing. But one thing Kanye said, which is a good point, is you just train to know what to not even get into. It's not a thing of being afraid of any specific thing. Just be afraid. Those are the, like you're a human AdSense bot. You're like, oh, that might not be good for my, right?

Around the time when you became a brand, I remember it was having a brand. Yeah. Then you are a brand. So you're not even the cow anymore that gets branded. You're the fucking brand. That's what you are now. That's when I know not to talk to a brand. So you're not even the cow anymore that gets branded. You're the fucking brand. That's what you are now. That's when I know not to talk to a person. Yeah. I love what you've done with your brand, Kurt. Oh my God.

No one has ever said that to me once. Not once? I just did. I'm so glad I'm the first. No one has ever told me I handled my brand well. I've had a dozen people tell me that. Okay, that's your brand. It's still better than.

But I mean, but it's still nonsense. Yeah, but that was the first. So somebody, I bet I could guess their age from if they said, I love your brand. Because there was a time when that was. Yeah, but then it became you are the brand. Yes. So you wouldn't even think about it and of it belonging to you. You're it.

How do you manage yourself as a brand, Kurt? Not well. Like three kids on each other's shoulders with a trench coat trying to get into a dirty movie. Gerard told me I look like that. That's a perfect fucking description. Yeah. Oh my God, that's hilarious that that's a perfect fucking description oh my god that's hilarious that's a perfect

description Gerard said to me a long time ago and it's that's exactly how I walk downstairs and uh not an ounce of coordination that's hilarious yeah there's some creepy ass thing that happened where you

like, so when all that you fight people fight, you know, they go, is it hurting comedy? Cancel culture? Is it hurting? Like it's not hurting. Comedy is probably the only way you can talk now. It's hurting if you're just saying what you think. It's one of the few things that you can still talk about ridiculously controversial shit.

And make jokes. As long as it's funny. It's much worse than it killing comedy. It's killing you just speaking your mind yeah and you have like having opinions at the workplace yeah right like but everything is based on are you representing the company right like in your personal time how is your life reflecting the company and that's what all that little cancel bullshit what it did is made life. Hey, not just the company but universities Like did you hear about that kid? They got his scholarship provoked because there's a video of him singing along to a rap song and he says the n-word I mean how many is like what was the story with that?

Yeah, pull that story how the hell okay, by the way How the hell is Justin Trudeau the Prime minister with like three blackface incidents that I know of? I mean, have you ever seen how insane it looks? That is the least of my worries with that guy. No, I know, but it's such an amazing- The scary thing with me, with him, is what they're doing with the WEF. Wait, does it say the rap N-word? Yeah, he rapped along to some song.

He raps N-word on camera, loses University of Florida scholarship. So he, did he, it's not his own rap, right? Dude, especially in Florida. Was he singing along to a song? Along to the words and posted, what is it? Click on what it says there. I was in my car listening to rap music,

rapping along to the words and posted a video of it on social media. He wrote, I deeply apologize for the words in the song that I chose to say. It was hurtful and offensive to many people and I regret that. So they took away his scholarship. Okay, but he still could be

Prime Minister of Canada though. He actually, I mean, he didn't, I guess he had a scholarship. He's just not, he wasn't even enrolled yet. He's still in high school. Oh. It's like he's going to go somewhere else probably. So he can't get a scholarship there. No, yeah, at that school.

Someone else, a professional player was like, he'll probably get a scholarship somewhere else, though. Just not this school. So did he used to have a scholarship there and they revoked it? I don't even know if, I'll look and see if they revoked it. He might have just stepped down and just been like, all right, let's just not get involved in this. No.

I fully accept the consequence of my action. I respect the University of Florida's decision to withdraw my scholarship offer to play football. Yeah, it's just an offer, though. But they... So I hadn't been involved in... Okay. But they did have a scholarship offer to him

and they withdrew it. That was the thing. Do you see the con here? He had an offer to go smash his brain into Swiss cheese and not be compensated properly. That's been revoked. Speaking of Swiss cheese, have you ever seen that video of Mickey Mouse making Swiss cheese with his dick?

No. There's an old old old old Mickey Mouse cartoon. That Walt Disney himself made. Someone from the Walt Disney organization I don't want to pin it on Walt. Will I get to see it now? Yeah, watch.

So look, he's fucking... He's got his dick. Oh, with his bow... Okay, but he's wearing pants. He's got a boner. And he's putting holes in the Swiss cheese with his boner. I always knew that's how they did it. Look at that.

Mickey has a boner, and he's making Swiss cheese with his dick. My God, look at him. I mean, it's in the middle of his fucking pants. It's not in any other place other than where your dick's supposed to be. What are we supposed to think there? I don't know. That's 100% Mickey's dick. I feel like watching Jon Stewart hanging a medal on a Nazi right now.

How crazy is that? I'm going to read, but Snopes says this is false, even though we just watched it. What does Snopes say? Why does it say it's false? Because Snopes is bought and paid for, bro. It says it's not doing what we're seeing. Okay, what does Snopes say? Does this Disney cartoon show Mickey Mouse inappropriately making Swiss cheese?

Okay, you got to read these because they're sometimes crazy. Why? Why is it false? Oh, somebody made it? The bit of animation was created in 2011. Yeah, that's what I was going to figure out. Someone might have just made this and made it look old. So this bit of animation was created on the B3TA board,

an internet forum that frequently features Photoshopped images, in March of 2011. But even without knowing the source behind the image, viewers can spot many other factors that demonstrate it was not part of an official Disney film. I, for one, rest easy now. Oh, no, somebody's fake. Like a recent TikTok trend.

These things go fast and viral on TikTok and no one fax checks anything. Oh, so it's a steamboat willy. So they cut out. Yeah, TikTok is really. I didn't think it could be possible. And if I thought it was possible, the thing that was getting me like, how do I not know this? No, that's what I was thinking. Because the Little Mermaid, just the mere suggestion that there were dicks hidden in the background of the cover.

Was there? Yeah, the Little Mermaid thing. There was dicks hidden? I don't even know if that's to this day, if that was real or not. Do you remember the stuff that would go around? I don't remember the little, do you remember the Little Mermaid one? I don't know that specifically, but there's a, it's a meme itself that there's a whole bunch of hidden stuff in old Disney stuff. Do you remember these misinformation?

Some of it looks real and some of it is. Some of it could be like this though, right? Some of it could be like the boner. How did he make Swiss cheese? How did Mickey? So the whole Mickey Swiss cheese thing was fake. did he make Swiss cheese? How did Mickey? So the whole Mickey Swiss cheese thing was fake. There was no

Swiss cheese factory. That's hilarious. Wow. The phallus, yeah, so this says the phallus purposely added the artwork

for the Little Mermaid VHS cover is also not real but I don't have to look at this. They got you, Kurt. It could be Photoshopped. This could be the same thing.

We didn't have any, remember this, did you ever hear this rumor? Like this is when I was in high school this was going around and it's usually like church people a very like i heard it from a sister and it chose witness but i also heard it from like kids that were like evangelical that procter and gamble you know the shampoo right magnates i guess went on it was phil donahue i've heard other talk shows with phil donahue to announce that they worship Satan.

And that's why they're putting a satanic symbol on the shampoo. What? Yeah. And Phil Donahue's like, don't you think like Christians are going to be mad? And then they go, there's not enough Christians to stop us. I heard that exact thing go around. And I was 17 when I heard it. It didn't sound plausible to me as a 17-year-old.

Look at this. The company spent decades battling false claims that it was in league with the devil. You know what that's like? It's like the rigid gear, gerbil in the ass rumor. Yeah, right. He blamed Stallone for many years. Did you know that? No.

He said Stallone did it? Yeah, that was like, because I would check that news. I knew. Him and Stallone did it. Oh, yeah, that was like cuz I would check that news I knew him and Stallone were feuding. I think it's like 65 years before the government releases if that happened It's even longer than Did Sylvester Stallone start the rigid gear dropper rumor an investigation? Oh they investigated Cuz that's not even a thing right dude. People don't actually do that. I don't know. Do they do that? I'm sure somebody tried after the rumor but it's not even a thing right people don't actually do that I don't know do they do that I'm sure somebody tried after the rumor but it's you know dude my buddy Steve worked

he did his residency in Miami in the 1980s during the cocaine days so he was it did a lot of time in the emergency room he said we found everything up people's asses G.I. Joe dolls light bulbs they found light bulbs up the guy's ass oh yeah everything coke bottles everything yeah I used to have a joke about that humans being the only animal to sometimes stick other

animals in their ass that's how you know we're superior we don't have to just eat you we'll use you as a suppository yeah whatever just for shits and i ran out of things to use you for dan savage says this is an unverified and persistent urban legend. Because once people say a stupid thing like that, though, someone will try it. Well, we don't think it's real. But what was the root of it? Like, who started it? But that wasn't one of those things.

Like, if you're Richard Gere and you walked into a party, people would start making jokes. Did it harm his career, do you think? That's a good question. I don't know. I mean, it certainly harmed his reputation if people thought it was real. But imagine a rumor that spreads across the entire country about you sticking a rat in your ass. Yeah. But no one else.

Just you. I might want to point fingers at Stallone. There's no Clint Eastwood rumors of a rat in the ass. Here's what we know. Gear claims he never had a gerbil in his butt. Imagine just having to say that they win. Stallone claims he never started the rumor, although we must now investigate his hatred for chicken mustard grease.

What? What? I missed the first part. It said no one can corroborate the definitive start of the rumor nor the validity of it ever happening, and the world spins badly on. Okay. But they wouldn't get corrected, those things. You know, like the Procter & Gamble was so dumb.

There was no internet. It was just word of mouth. Oh, that's so crazy. If that happens, like this Balenciaga thing that I sent you, Jamie? Oh, yeah. What is that about? That's probably some gorilla some firm like pushing the envelope for Balenciaga Because Balenciaga, you know, they're one of them like your Coco Chanel

Fascist area. Yeah, they're friends with Frank. The guy was friends with Franco Cristobal Balenciaga, so, you know, their image, they probably made like Disavow Kanye or something. Yes. And they're like a former Nazi company. Well, they disavowed Kanye and then people started, I guess, looking into them. Or maybe coincidentally at the same time, all this stuff started coming out. I don't know. I never heard of them.

I guess it's like a high up. It's one of those things you hear about, but I have no interest in purses. So I hear about Balenciaga. I'm like, okay. Is that what it is? That's what they make purses? What do they make? I've seen those sunglasses.

What do they make, Jamie? It's like high-end fancy shit. That shit doesn't mean anything to me. Yeah, I know. I hear about that. I'm like, okay. It's like you want a game of Go. Congratulations.

I'm sure you're smart. When I went to China, there was, I didn't see anything that looked like communism there. I saw like almost an 80s movie, kind of hyper, like that, you know,

like name brand, but there's a lot of counterfeit stuff. So I'm in a hotel. I say I ate nothing. I had a hard time finding Chinese stuff. What'd you eat? Like hotel food. Yeah, very,

by the way, very well done. I don't mean cooked well eat? Like, hotel food. Yeah, very, by the way, very well done, I don't mean cooked well done, I mean good food. Like, it was very good, but I had, so it was like,

it wasn't that expensive at the time. It was like in 2016 before the election and they were kind of into Trump, the people that I talked to at the time.

Really? They were like, he's a businessman, so he's good. See, it was like, very like that when I was there

and this girl in front of me had on this jacket With like a price tag hanging off the back And I don't remember what It's like something thousands of Probably yuan But it hanging off the back of the jacket To let everybody know how much it cost It was such a big price tag it looked like

Remember Minnie Pearl from Hee Haw with the hat It was like that big And the jacket was an Ed Hardy jean jacket that was clearly not made by Ed Hardy. So it was clearly a knockoff. And when I went there, they used to have this cool black market around Shanghai where you could find like,

what I wish I could have got was the Nike Reeboks. They had sneakers that said both Nike and Reebok on them. But that was all over with by the time I got there But they still have entire stores over there that are Apple stores that are not really Apple stores Oh, yeah, everything in there is counterfeit. Yeah, cuz I think I view IPs differently than here. Yeah, they don't at all Like tough shit Yeah, it's like I understand why I wouldn't do this thing Well, it's like the scooping up of intellectual information, what they do with, like, that's why Huawei got banned in the United States, because they think they're using their routers to scoop up information.

So if you're creating something, you're in some company, Chinese authorities shut down elaborate fake Apple service center. That is very elaborate, because that does not. The last story I could find, 2018, most of there's just there's a few of them around and then this is a shut it Down oh they shut it down well makes sense because Apple probably has a nice tidy business deal with them over there to do in LA I can't believe they don't shut down every weed store that looks like an Apple store for some reason screams that looks like an Apple store for some reason. There's like screens. I know. This is really intentional. You buy weed with a tablet on a nice oak table.

Is this why the weed costs more than illegal now? It's a lot more. Yeah. But I'll pay. I'll pay. Just make it. Look, the amount of money that you actually spend on weed, even if weed is more than it is now,

in comparison to alcohol, it's not even comparable. Yeah, right Especially if you like To drink expensive shit like clase Azul tequila or something or some old scotch that's just really expensive Yeah, right like 50 bucks. How many drinks can you get? Well, have you seen how you get it with 50 bucks? Have you seen those like thousand dollar joints? With 50 bucks? Have you seen those like $1,000 joints? Speaking of joints.

You ever see that? $1,000 joints? Yeah, I'll see the videos pop up online where it'll be like, I can't remember who it was, but it was some rapper and they were showing him joints that were like $40,000. It was crazy. Yeah. What is it? You know what I'm talking about, Jamie? Yeah, 2 Chainz does this here.

Oh, that's what it was. It was 2 Chainz, yeah. $24,000 joint. The most explensive. That's pretty big, though, actually. Oh, is it made with gold? Is that what it is? It's definitely wrapped in gold.

Oh, so you're smoking gold. That's good for you, probably. For a good cause, though. He created that weed for a good cause. What was the cause? To get fucked up. I'm sure they're donating all that money. And then they donate the money to the African Wildlife Foundation.

Doesn't mining the gold for the wrapper probably harm wildlife more than... This is separate from that one. Oh. What is that one? Actually, the one he smoked was 50K. Oh, my God. And I don't know why. So look at this.

He's going to open it up. Luxury. Those are 50K? Those Coronas? Maybe. What? I mean, I'm sure they explain why, but it might not make sense. Oh, it's $420.

That's all. 12 grams of flour. Because probably they build up to one that's 50 grams. I like how the real potheads call it flour. 12 grams of flour. Oh, I know. That really... I remember being like, I'm not calling it cannabis.

It used to be a thing like a guy with a ponytail would say to you. And now it's... Plant medicine. It's plant medicine, man plant medicine man i'm harvesting the cannabis i'm getting all my flowers but i'll tell you what's great about california is you i always meet somebody somebody cool person that grows a lot oh it just hooks me up oh yeah there's a lot of good growers but that's the thing about like the cannabis business a lot of fucking really cool But that's the thing about the cannabis business.

A lot of fucking really cool people involved in the cannabis business. Because they're selling cannabis. So they're getting high all the time. So they're really kind of cool and passionate. Well, a good friend of mine, I won't say, but back in New York, who ended up having a pretty good cannabis business. And there was something like he was working with the city government on the down low. Because to see about legalize you know they work with people New York has all those deliveries and that delivery of weed scene was like pretty surprisingly violent to me of like bicycle guys like

that was that HBO show high maintenance about a guy delivers weed on his bike half-baked was all about that, the delivery. He had to get a friend to be his bodyguard and stuff so that people get stabbed. And I remember going, like, wow, there's all that over weed? He goes, no, it's over money. I go, oh, right. Of course.

I didn't even, it's just weed, man. Well, you remember when Denver made it legal, but then they couldn't do business with credit cards because banks didn't want to do business with them, so they had to do business in cash. That's rich. And then they had to take the cash, and they had to, multiple times a day,

drive with the cash to the bank. So they hired, like, seals and, like, mercenaries to fucking ride with them. And these banks, by the way, were later caught taking cartel money for much worse drugs. I mean, every single thing, all the Epstein. Well, they took the money, I think, but they wouldn't do business with credit cards. Credit card companies wouldn't do business with it.

The nerve of a credit card, yeah. I think the idea is that federally it's still illegal. I don't know. I think they've relaxed that now. Find out if you can still use it. Wait, that probably makes legal sense, though, because if you could get busted at any minute. I don't, everywhere I've been,

the way that if you use a card, it's still doing some weird thing where you're paying somebody else and then they're paying them. Oh. Yeah.

Yeah, because I bet, I mean. You're paying somebody else. They do some weird transaction where, like, you pay $5 extra and they accept, you text them the number

and whatever the fuck. What are we doing? It's 2022. This is ridiculous. Just tax it. In fact, I used to say that. Now I'm like, maybe let's make sure you know what you're... California has completely fucked that up.

Do you know how the illegal market is now, I guess, bigger than the legal market, which is surprising to me? Well, because it's also a misdemeanor. I had this guy, John Norris, who wrote this book. It's called Hidden War. And it's about how their cartels are growing weed on public forestry. They go to public forest land, like in the fucking California mountains and shit. And they set up these grow ops and they grow weed and they stay there and they camp there and they're using these fucking like seriously dangerous pesticides and herbicides and the shit gets in the water supply. Well, you know, they're also like to even go into business.

The way it's I think all these places when they legalize it want to have like a monopoly that's in cozy with like whatever politicians put it through because they make it hard. like a monopoly that's in cozy with like whatever politician is putting it through because they make it hard you have to have like half an illegal grow to support your legal grow because you have to have so many i don't know power however they measure it to legally be able to do it and it's it's made that way on purpose to make sure it's like only like a real big money place can do i'm not exactly sure what you mean like there's a whole vice thing about they had something for prisoners in LA. It's like black prisoners released from the drug war stuff where they get first dibs on getting licensed to grow. Jesus.

And so, I mean, if you got caught- Imagine getting arrested for something and then you get first dibs on license to grow it legally. What the fuck did you arrest me for? They should get that, by the way. I don't have any vision with that. But guess what? They can't get it. It's even fucked up for them. It's so, they just fucked it up.

California stinks, dude. They can't, you know, I don't have like kids or a house there or anything. So I don't, I don't know what the hell like. There's a lot of regulations. That's for sure. It's, but there's so much money from that legal cannabis. Like how much good is that done? I'd like to know, what's the benefit?

What's the cost benefit for the state for having it legal? California must make a lot of money. Yeah, where does it all go? They're taxing the shit out of it? What's the annual amount of money marijuana brings in in taxes? 2020 to 2021 fiscal year, California collected about $817 million. I like the homeless. That's a good chunk. But what is that?

I don't think that includes the local taxes. Which is different too. And then there's like an excise tax. I have no idea what that is. There's like three taxes on it. Which is why there's a bunch of articles. I can't get past the paywall to see it right now. I'm trying to. That's saying exactly what he's saying. That the illegal market over the last year has jumped up a bunch. Because of that.

Yeah. Because you tax the shit out of it. Well, they don't. You know, the homeless. What I was getting at, though, let me finish that before I forget. The reason why the cartels grow on forest land is because it's legal here. It's just a misdemeanor. Oh, is that right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you're growing illegally, it's not like a gigantic penalty. Yeah, wow. Make sure that's true. I know that was true at one point in time, but if you're caught growing marijuana illegally in California, it's a misdemeanor. You're causing a stampede at the border right now.

I think they're so lenient about it because it is legal to grow it in the state. And so there's some weird fucking reason why they decided to do it there. I think he said something like 90% of the illegal weed. You can grow up to six plants, but the law makes it a misdemeanor if you grow in excess of that. Yeah. So that's illegal cultivation of marijuana. Although adults 21 and older are now permitted to grow up to six plants.

So if you grow more than six plants, the law makes it a misdemeanor offense. That's it. A conviction is punishable by six months in jail. That ain't shit. So if you're making fucking bank for the cartel. And then they catch you and you're like, joke's on you, pal. I'm not even from here. So he had to develop like a tactical force to deal with these people because they're getting shot at.

Wait, who did? John Norris, this guy that wrote that book. Oh, yeah, I've seen that guy. He signed up to be a game warden. He liked going outdoors and doing some fishing. He'd be like, it'd be good to be a game warden. You go, you check people's licenses. How you doing, sir?

Make sure everybody's up to regulation. Good job. You're in the outdoors. Did you see a Bigfoot? And then they started finding things like creeks that were dried up. And they're like, why is this creek dried up? Well, we'll chase it down. They go up to the top of the creek thinking that maybe a beaver did something or a farmer

did something. And then they found these tubes that diverted all the water to this illegal grow up. And they go there and these people are using all these toxic chemicals. One of the guy's dogs got shot. Like, it's crazy shit. Like, they're having gunfights with these people in the middle of the fucking forest because these are just cartel guys.

Yeah, right. So they basically developed, like, a tactical unit. So he went from being a game warden, I'm going to check people's fishing licenses, to being a guy who's, like, in a shootout with a cartel in the woods. Yeah, it's really wild. Wild.

And it's because it's a misdemeanor so because it's a misdemeanor to grow a bunch of plants illegally they just fucking grow anywhere they want if so federally now because you know that bullshit like this is i've heard people this is an important first step that thing biden did that he didn't do anything yeah right that's i thought it was good too and then i looked into it yeah there's nobody in jail for nobody's in federal prison for marijuana possession well you don't get pulled over by the fbi and busted for simple marijuana possession you haven't had that problem marijuana possession is not that big of a crime it's dealers and growers that get big sentences and they're not letting them out it's that's the difference

that's the first of all it should be fucking legal we're not babies why isn't it though it's because people paying to keep it illegal it's crazy we should demand the legality of it it's a human rights issue you should have access to it you could demand all you want it it has benefits to a lot of people that use it. It's real benefits that people enjoy, and people that don't enjoy those benefits are telling you not to do it. Because if they did enjoy those benefits, they would never tell you you shouldn't do it.

Oh, I think a lot of them do. It's just they enjoy the... They've calculated what profit loss there is. That's why all the lobbyists to keep it illegal. Do you ever look up the lobbies? Hilarious. what are they you know it's like pharmaceutical companies of course and alcohol companies Because they're like we get regulated like they're just gonna make another drug and not the some police union I think the prison private prison lobby. I've heard that I've heard private prison guard unions. Yeah, you gotta keep them full I've heard that.

I've heard private prison guard unions. Yeah, you got to keep them full. But just why are they even lobbying? They're using human beings in their lives like a battery to generate money. That's what it is. Yeah, no shit. There's no reason, no reason whatsoever that you should be able to tell a person that you can get drunk, but you can't get high. Dude. That doesn't make any fucking sense.

Do you know, I just found this out. I mean, it makes me laugh. I mean, it's a terrible story. But you ever hear the last slave legally freed in America is 1942? What? Yeah, guy's name is Irving something or something Irving. What? They used to have a thing, debt peonage, where, you know, you get busted for some dumb charge,

like vagrancy or something for 75 bucks. And then a guy's like, I'll pay you fine. And you can come and work on my plantation. And they lock you up like a slave and you can't. So, and then, and so then they finally, I think a white guy, cause then it wasn't limited to black people. If you're like a, some kid was visiting down South and got caught up in it and died.

I think that's why it made the papers, this debt peonage thing. defense in court was no we're not doing dead peonage we're uh we have slaves oh my god and prosecute them and they didn't stop it until like 1942 after pearl harbor because the japanese and this is in the newspapers the japanese are using it as propaganda that we still have slave yeah It's just like a hilarious, like, to use that as your defense, and that's how you get out of it. That's an amazing. So you could go when a person was locked up and offered to buy them out. You know, they kept it going. And they would have to work it off.

You always hear about, like, sleeping in the Jim Crow. But they would be able to decide how much you got paid? That's how we got all these, like, we're talking about, is there a quota? All this shit grew out of that, you know? And some of these places, it's all inertia. You know, like in Texas, I don't know how big, maybe it's bigger news in the state, but I was trying to figure out, because I was like, all this prison labor, if you think like illegal immigration is lowering wages, like I bet All the prison labor lowers wages a lot, right?

So I go to look it up and then here in Texas. It's not even profitable They have people picking cotton Like oh and it's not even better than just doing having that but they just had it for so long It's just like slaves pick cotton here all so in texas if i'm saying it's right so you know it's in the 13th amendment all like state property when you're a prisoner you're a slave that's like written into well i know they can use you for wildfires right but slave means your property right that's what it means it's not like you had to work for a low weight your prop state property that's what you're called as a prisoner. And that's what was,

that's why they may have the amendment to free the slaves, but that's in there still. But do they, like, here's the thing. When it comes to things like fighting wildfires, do they have any say whether or not they fight a wildfire? Because, you know,

they use them sometimes as cheap labor. So do you think they get to choose whether or not they do it? Yeah, I'm sure if I'm in prison, I probably would want to get out of it. That's one of the things that Tulsi Gabbard, during that big debate moment with Kamala Harris, she accused her. You had those guys on talking about that. Yeah. That's crazy.

She doesn't want to disrupt the prison labor, so she doesn't release. The federal government says you've got to release these people. Well, she used them to fight wildfires. But the thing is, what does that mean? Do you give them an option? federal government says you got to release these people well she used them to fight wildfires but the thing is like what does that mean do you give them an option do do you just tell them they have to fight a wildfire no matter what prisoners who want to enter the conservation camp program must meet security requirements and undergo two weeks of training the all inmate crews live in so-called fire camps and are led by personnel

from the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, or CAL FIRE. They earn between $2.90 and $5 a day, depending on their dues. That's insane. I bet they got it. And slightly more when actively fighting a fire. Slightly more. I'm going to give you a bump to 3.10 and 5.20 when fighting a fire. Though more. I'm going to give you a bump to 310 and 520 when fighting a fire. Though their numbers have fluctuated over the years, they have often compromised approximately one-third of California's firefighting force. That's a lot.

So to put it on in a positive spin, is it possible that it's one of those things, like if you're a specialist in times of war and they need to make you work, they need to redraft you, we need you for this very specific thing. You signed up to be property. If you signed up to be a part of this crew when you were trained and then a wildfire broke out, maybe it was part of the agreement when you signed up that if some shit hit the fan, they were allowed to keep you longer because you were very difficult to train. But if you signed up for this program, it would lead to you maybe getting paroled earlier.

Yeah, I've seen the dirty dozen. I know how that works. I'm just looking. Yeah, you could also sign up for medical experimentation. Britain sucks. Yeah. I'll bet I would go fight a forest fire if I was in a California penal system. If you had to choose between experimental medications and fighting a forest fire.

Dude, maybe the forest fire because I've experimented with many medications. Yeah, but on your own free will. Yeah, and if they're like, hey, okay, we don't want to use it. Lab rats aren't enough, but we can't use it on the people that aren't owned by this state. We're going to see prisoners first. Those are the ones you probably never want to be in the test for. The ones they take to prisoners is my guess. Yeah.

It's not great when you see their process with non-prisoners testing. I'll bet it's really not good when they can do whatever they want, you know? Especially if you're a piece of shit. I mean, that's the premise of so many horror movies. You got a bunch of fucking murderers sitting around. A bunch of horrible people, thieves. And plus, I imagine our amazing system really improves. Yeah.

If you got a guy who's killed a bunch of women, why wouldn't you practice some shit on him? Yeah, once it's okay. Get some serial killer guy in there. Give him the fucking, see what happens, a full dose. It's a premise a lot of video games and very good movies. Yeah. Really?

Yeah, Manhunt. Remember that rock star game, Manhunt? Well, you know that whole CIA connection to Charles Manson happened when he was in prison. Did you see? Oh, who's the guy who played Machete? Danny Trejo, that actor? No. You know who he is, right?

Yeah, sure, sure. I saw him telling a story about being in the joint with Charles Manson. He said he was like this little ratty guy that had like a rope for a belt, but he could hypnotize you to feel like you were on heroin, but the only thing is

you had to have done heroin before. So his one friend, it wouldn't work on him, but him and his buddy, he said, the guy hypnotized him and they were on, they threw up and got high.

Whoa. And I happen to see you have that author on here and then saw that danny sean like that's a weird story he could hypnotize you to feel like you were high on heroin this before all that stuff tom o'neill who wrote the book chaos which is a fucking amazing book all about this he went deep down the rabbit hole for 20 years writing this book it's meticulously researched yeah Yeah, right. I saw that interview. The CIA 100% did these

drug experiments for people in the 1960s. Was it the 1950s as well? When did it start? But they did it. It's like documented. Well, it was good of them to come forward and admit to it and move on from there. They did these things where they would dose johns and brothels so

these guys would go to a whorehouse looking to hook up with some ladies that's a psychedelic what's it called again mk ultra yeah yeah yeah same thing uh manson was first talked the group into thinking they were smoking weed and then heroin by the time he described hitting my bloodstream i felt the warmth flowing through my body, Trejo remembers. If that white boy wasn't a career criminal, he could have been a professional hypnotist. That's wild, dude. So he hypnotized them into feeling like they were doing heroin. Have you ever been hypnotized? Yeah, I have been. I think they probably taught him how to do that. And I think that was part of the, this was part of the, what the book doesn't, it doesn't say for a fact this is what they did. But what it does is point a lot of evidence to the fact that this guy, who was the head of MKUltra, Jolly West, definitely visited Manson in prison. Manson had access to LSD. When he would get arrested, he would get released. They would say it was above their pay grade.

All points indicate that he was taught how to take these people and lead them. And that he was taught how to do it with LSD. And that he was supplied LSD. That was creepy him talking about that. It's crazy. Because once you know that they definitely did experiments on people with LSD. They 100% did that. So then you got to go, well, how many people and what was the extent of this stuff?

Like when did they end this? Like how much did it affect of culture? How much did it affect of people going fucking nuts and jumping off buildings? Like what exactly happened? Did you ever see the thing about the gay bomb in the 90s? It was a... Oh, that's right. That's right. They were thinking of coming up with a bomb that they could drop on a city and make everybody gay.

Yeah, it sounds so crazy, but it is a real thing. Yeah, that's what it is. In 1994, the U.S. military actually considered building a gay bomb. It was to debilitate. This could be a great South Park movie. Well, I mean, you just told me in the beginning this about a guy that successfully sued because he became gay and gambly. Yeah. So we know it's possible to do this.

Do this. Researchers at the Wright Laboratory in Ohio, a predecessor to today's United States Air Force Research Laboratory, began exploring some alternative options. What existed, they asked, that would distract or delude a soldier long enough to mount an attack without causing the soldier any bodily harm. The answer seemed obvious, sex. But how could the Air Force make that work to their advantage? In an act of brilliance or insanity, they came up with the perfect plan. Wait, is that really true? All soldiers, one weakness? Oh my God. Oh, pheromones. Okay. They put together a three-page proposal in which they detailed their 7.5 million dollar invention the gay bomb the gay bomb would be a cloud of gas that would discharge over enemy camps that contained a

chemical that would cause enemy soldiers to become gay and to have their units break down because all their soldiers became irresistibly attractive to one another. Dude, that would be a great series. Like somebody, you're a secret agent and you get to use all the failed. Like you have a gay ball. You have access to all the kind of embarrassing things that they worked on. But how funny is the way they look at gay people? They think that if everybody just became gay, they would just totally be distracted about this whole war thing

and just want to fuck. They didn't start with gay. They go, what's the way to distract soldiers? And they're like, sex. So are you telling me all soldiers could just be distracted by sex at any moment? Even in the middle of a firefight. In the middle of a firefight.

Someone from an alleyway. Come here. Giant exact. Is that how we launched Vietnam? Among the more comical ideas was a bomb titled Who Me? which simulated flatulence among the ranks, hopefully distracting

the soldiers with terrible smells long enough for the U.S. to attack. The F-Fart Bomb! The idea was scrapped almost immediately, however, after researchers pointed out that some people throughout the world don't find the smell of flatulence particularly offensive. That's racist.

That's hilarious. Oh, my God. So they didn't get to work making this. These were just blue sky in this thing. This is like a sketch show. What about a gay bomb? They wanted a bomb to make wasps sting people until they would stop. Wasps, wow.

Make their skin suddenly unbelievably sensitive to the sun. Dude, who was the guy that wrote for Hollywood Squares for Whoopi, and he's like a real famous guy, and he's got big Sesame Street monster hair. Bruce Valanche? Yeah, did Bruce Valanche come up with their secret weapons? Someone, I've read something about wasps that inject their larva into other creatures. Yeah.

They create like a, what would that call it? Like an alien sort of infestation thing. There's more of them than there are every other kind of insect. Well, it is a great idea. The female wasp injects the caterpillar with her eggs and a virus, which shuts down the caterpillar's ability to defend itself against these intruders. The wasp larva deposited into the caterpillar's body begin to grow beneath the surface, snacking on the caterpillar innards.

It's wild to watch. It comes with a virus. There's a shit ton of different wasps that do this kind of thing. So the virus is so the body doesn't reject like the... I guess. They turn other ants into zombies, saving millions of humans along the way. Oh, I didn't know about that. What?

Scroll back up to the top again. It's a trailer to Aliens. To other insects into zombies. But it says it saved our lives. Is this like another just PR from Big Wasp? That's what I think everything is now. But what this article was talking about, or was it a video? It might have been a video I was watching,

where they were talking about how the sheer number of different parasitic wasps is insane. There's like 100 different ones. Really? That inject. Yeah, there's some that do it into the wood. There's larvae that go into the wood. Like there's larva that go like into the crevices of wood. So they have these long ass pointers. Is this

like go down there and inject them inside the wood as a wood wasp? Is this like what Harvey Weinstein did to that plant? Was that part of nature when we put a stop sign? Pull up the wood wasp. Check this thing out. Because didn't his penis fall off much like a wasp sting? He's got like that crazy gangrene of the dick thing.

I thought he- It's like a diabetic sort of gangrene type thing. I didn't even know that was a- Boy, if you want to scare people straight from diabetes, you should mention your dick falling off. So look at that thing it's got at the end of it. Yeah. And it shoves that into like these cracks where these larvae are inside of these trees. Yeah, right.

And it injects them. That's Harvey, all right. So make sure I'm not fucking that up. That's right. It's called a horn tail or a wood wasp. And does it say what they're injecting themselves into? Let's see. So there's like a bunch of different wasps that do this type of shit.

Yeah. Drills her ovipositor. Her dick. That's what I'm going to call my dick from now on. Ovipositor. I call it. That's what Zuckerberg calls his dick. My ovipositor. Ovipositor. Toipositor to the rescue.

Nearly three quarters of an inch into the wood. Whoa, three quarters of an inch of a weakened or dying tree and lays one to seven of her eggs. The same time she squirts in a fungus from her abdominal gland. She continues this process laying up to 200 eggs. Okay, this is different. So this is not um this is her larva she's just shooting it into the wood and then putting this fungus on them this is not a uh that alien softer wood it's still a parasite isn't it yeah even if it's against wood yeah but it's

not what i'm thinking of i'm thinking of there's a bunch of different aliens one that yeah that inject their uh larvae into other creatures and make their they paralyze the creature and then the body just swarms with these little larvae oh you just reminded me of something shitload of them like that the caterpillar thing it said it saved human lives because it would it helps with agriculture and growing stuff stopping Stopping the caterpillars from eating lives. How many lives? Save four. It said 20 million. 20 million?

Yeah. Oh, because caterpillars eat that many crops? Yeah. Actually makes sense. Right here. Estimated 20 million lives. Wow. Like I said, did a wasp write this?

This effort. Oh, so what did they do? They dropped them? Look at this. After rearing the wasps and gathering funding, Heron brought planes and coordinated strategic airdrops and ground release of wasp cocoons to areas affected by the mealy bug. For those locations, the wasp populations grew and spread on their own,

reducing the mealy bug population to manageable levels for years. Wow. That's a fucking science experiment. When did this happen? 1995. I always hear about these things. Before the internet. They could just do shit like that. It always feels like the end of Watchmen where he's like, I already did the thing like two

hours ago. What happened to murder hornets when we're supposed to be scared of murder hornets? I never. What is this one doing? So here's another one. I'm sorry what you were saying they've got the fattest ov positives those ones they just inject them with their stuff do you know what this is reminding me of that i want to bring up what look at all those larvae popping

out of its body is that wild yeah look at this it's just injecting its offspring into this thing's body who's the british guy that narrates this david attenborough yeah with david attenborough's it's just injecting its offspring into this thing's body. Who's the British guy that narrates this? David Attenborough. Yeah, with David Attenborough's sexy voice. Let's hear his voice. Go back to where it's like, not with paralyzing poison, but with eggs.

Yes. What a perfect voice. So that must be the most horrifying part of being those caterpillars is hearing David Attenborough just casually narrate your painful death. How you demise. Thanks, dude. Can you help? No?

Okay. Attenborough was the first guy to get, to put on television at least, footage of chimps eating monkeys. Yeah. Do you remember that? I never saw it, but I think it's amazing all the things about uh animals that have been covered up over the years more than any like ufo would be covered up the hiding of like things monkeys were into like we can't let the public know like if you think like i remember pbs i think of all the gay animals that you ever heard about

because when they first cataloged them, they didn't want to say, like, oh, don't mention that, or that dolphin thing. Right. There's got to be a percentage of monkeys that are gay, right? I think all of the bonobo chimpanzees, they're all homosexual. I wouldn't even put it in gay terms. They just see it, you know, every problem looks like a nail to a hammer. They just look at it like that.

They just have orgies. They're the weirdest chimp, right? So this is a baboon eating a deer. I was trying to find the one where they caught a bird in their cage at the zoo. Oh, Jesus Christ. Is this a deer in the zoo or is this in the wild? It's probably in the wild. Oh, man.

Nature's medal is a hardcore account. And it's a lot of that. Like, really, like, man. Nature's metal is a hardcore account. And it's a lot of that. Like, really, like, whoa. There was these one hyenas that were, like, eating this antelope as it was standing there. Yeah. And pulling just chunks out of its guts. There's a giant hole missing. Oh, my God.

It's chewing its innards out. It's just standing there, paralyzed in pain and fear. Yeah. I like the ones where, like, a dog and turtle are friends. Do you guys hang out? Those are cute. Yeah, look at this one. That's a wildebeest.

They're just eating it alive, just tearing it apart while it's alive. It's just laying there, and they're just eating its organs. Dude, I could never watch this or Bros. You're the reason why bro wasn't successful dude annie a comedy star is like oh you she told me i gotta see it and i because i didn't know what it was so i'm like i don't think she was breaking my balls if she was right that was pretty funny for her i'm like why would i do you know what it is i just know the tagline it's a gay romantic comedy for straight men it's a gay romantic comedy. For straight men. It's a gay romantic comedy for straight men.

That would be a funny thing to say. That's a good way to sell it. I've been bringing this up a lot. I brought it up in the creek everywhere. One, I'm straight, so I don't even want to see straight romance. That's a little too gay for me. And two, we already have a gay romantic comedy for straight men called Fight Club that we're all very happy with. Because I know you had that guy on, right?

Chuck Palahniuk? Yeah, yeah. I've had him on a couple times. He's a fascinating dude. Really interesting guy, man. Well, I mean, he made the successful, because that's what that is, that movie. It's his writing, though. Like, you should read some of his stuff.

He says the movie's better than the book himself, right? he like I thought yeah, he'd know he loved the movie the movie It's not just Fight Club. I'm saying I'm saying some of his other stuff He wrote a series of horror stories and one of them is about I think it's a little girl who turns into a werewolf on A plane yeah, it's fucking wild. I remember a book came out of his at the time. It's like when I was getting out of Make sure that's him who wrote that.

When I was getting out of Art Institute that people were like throwing up at the readings of some Oh yeah yeah yeah. He's been asked to leave these writers

groups because his stuff was too disturbing. He talked about that. You know he talked about like you have to be free to make disturbing things.

Otherwise like how do you know? How do you know what he talked about, like, you have to be free to make disturbing things. Otherwise, like, how do you know? How do you know what you're doing? You've got to be free to express yourself. And some of it's not pretty. And some of the stuff that's not pretty is fucking fascinating to people. Sometimes you've got to graphically describe someone's asshole being sucked out of a jet engine. I just got to say it. Listen, that is how it would go.

You have your asshole near the jet engine. It just pulls it right out of your body and wraps it up in a spiral. They should warn people about it. Haunt it. That's it. Yeah, that's it. So which one is it? Which story is it?

There's one of the stories where there's a- There's a 13-year-old girl. Yeah. Don't. Nope. No? Can't find it? Damn, there's a lot of stories in there.

I know. It's a lot of chapters. Each chapter is a short story. Oh, there it is. Dissertation. The missing link is a Chula Indian on a date with a graduate student who's doing her dissertation on Sasquatches and associated phenomena. She believes that a recent plane crash was caused by a 13-year-old Chula Indian girl

who transformed as if a werewolf aboard the plane and caused the crash. She relates her theory to missing link who tells her the girl in question was his sister yeah uh sasquatch you know what i when you're telling me that cartel thing do you think a bunch of these sasquatch sightings it was like a scooby-doo they dressed as a sasquatch to scare funny that you say that because there's actually a documentary called Sasquatch. And it's about a Sasquatch killing these guys who are doing the exact same thing we're talking about. Grow-ups. Oh, really? Yeah.

In the Humboldt area. In the mountains up there. Yeah. And they murdered these guys, these cartel guys, and blamed it on Sasquatch. Oh, yeah. Because that. Yeah. It's a good fucking documentary.

It's like a series. Oh, I didn't ever, because that... Yeah. It's a good fucking documentary. It's like a series. Oh, I didn't ever heard of this. Yeah, it's on Hulu. It's a multi-piece series. Is it on Netflix as well? I don't know. But it was really good. And I had the guy in and talked to him.

Really fucking interesting dude. What was his name again jamie um but it was a it was a movie about that about how it became very violent when that whole area became known as growing weed yeah david holthouse very interesting guy i really really enjoy the the whole series got a 93 on rotten tomatoes it's really interesting because it's like the whole thing changed from this like hippie thing to everyone's armed yeah right and you're getting people are getting killed there's like drug wars going yeah right but you're already invested in the land this is your business you don't know that people take it from you and then everything escalates and then you have fucking shootouts up there. This sounds like how the Scooby gang explains the fake Sasquatch.

They would have got away with it. I think at one point in time there was a Sasquatch, and I think it's proven. There's a thing called Gigantopithecus, and they think that at one point in time people probably lived alongside those things. And that's probably this sort of myth that goes through all these different cultures. I think at one point in time, there probably was a thing like that. When they discovered hobbits. Sure, hobbits. And I guess they were little three-foot-tall people.

Yeah, on the island of Flores. Yeah, I talked to a gentleman this past weekend in Hawaii who was explaining to me how they had a similar thing in Hawaii. It was like these two-foot-tall little hairy people. If you think about that whole area, yeah, it's part of the myths and cultures, myths of their culture rather. And I want to say myths, I should say legend, because it probably was real. At one point in time, somebody probably encountered this little thing that we know for sure existed alongside people. And it existed on the island of Flores and they think it existed in other places.

They call it the Orang Pendek. There's like different names for it in different parts of the world. But now that we know it was really a thing, all those stories about people seeing them back in the day were probably real. Do you think, because I thought the Flores ones, they hunted like little elephants, something adorable. I swear to God.

Well, there's a thing called island dwarfism. Yeah, island dwarfism. Yeah, when you do have like small elephants who live on an island. Yeah, they would have, the team of them would take down a tiny elephant. That's the sweetest. Sweetest little murder.

You know that wildebeest thing you showed me? If they were little ones, that would be adorable. Dude, you know how wild that would be to watch? Chibi animals going down. Because if they were using tools and weapons, they were hunting things. be adorable dude you know how wild that would be to watch chibi animals going down because they if they were using tools and weapons yeah they were hunting things how wild that would be to watch them how how first of all how fast do you think they were who the chasing two foot tall people well the thing is it's just scaled down so they don't have to be fast they just have to have

longer endurance right yeah but they're living in the jungle. Dude, they gotta be fast. Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm sure it's sped up. Comically is how I imagine it. Like a monkey. I imagine Benny Hill music in the background. I wonder, like, what a human... If you went back to the original human,

like, the earliest version of the anatomically current human being, whatever that was, whether it's 500, 700,000 years ago, whatever it was, I would love to see what that dude looked like when he walked around. What was that like? What did they do? What was a day in the life of one of them? Imagine following one of those guys.

Imagine being in a time machine where you could just exist in a bubble that no one could see and you could follow around some dude living nine hundred thousand years ago how fucking wild would that be just to imagine that this guy just figuring out you could bang rocks into the shape of a tool that this guy is one day gonna pilot in the airplane that this guy's I'll bet it it's a lot like you ever watch like Alaska wilderness people and you know if it's a lot like, you ever watch Alaska Wilderness People? And if it's not a reality show, they're clipping it together.

It's probably real dull. You ever see reality shows made? It's just hours of, so you'd spend hours watching everything, but you'd want someone to aggregate the interesting parts to you. Look at this. Peter claims these ancient ancestors of ours

could theoretically reach sprinting speeds of up to 28 miles an hour. Wow, that seems fast. It's not known what speeds the likes of Usain Bolt, Johan Blake, or Tyson Gray could reach if they were being chased in fear of their lives. Good point. How fast can they run, by the way, Usain Bolt? About 23 is what this says. I would suggest a group of humans are capable of running up to 23.

This guy found some footprints in Australia and used those as... Didn't they find some footprints that they just discovered way older than they thought in Spain? I think they found some in America. They found some footprints in... Yeah, they definitely found some in Spain, but they found some in America that takes our idea of when human beings were here way, way, way back. Yeah, right. Way further than they thought it was like way earlier than 11,000 years ago. Well just the whole idea that was oh there Here is yeah, it's not as old as they thought it's thousands of years later, but it's still really fucking old

Oh, this is so what does it say there? What does the top say it says the discovery of the oldest human footprints in North America thrilled researchers. It turns out they may not be so old. So what did they think they were and what are they? Okay. So the results implied the footprints that were left behind between 22,800 years ago and 21,130 years ago. Previously, the earliest known humans, beings in North America, were dated between 14,000 and 16,000 years. If true, the conclusion could upend all manner of assumptions in the field.

The team published its findings in Science last year. This is a bombshell. Ruth Gruen, an academic archaeologist not involved in the study observed. It's very hard to disprove. And so then what happened that went bad? What's the difference? Okay. Radiocarbon dating on, go back up a little bit. Radiocarbon dating on ancient grass seeds found in the footprints determined they were made between 23,000 years ago. So what is, what's incorrect about it it it's still really fucking old

what's it saying there i don't know what they're saying because it doesn't seem like they're saying why they think it's not as old and the very very good that just said i moved it by a thousand years oh so went from 23 to 22,000? I guess. Still old as fuck. Yeah. It's like a lot older than they used to think it was.

So, okay, so it was 22,000 to 21,000. Okay, so they pushed it back 1,000 years. A lot of stuff's based on dates that are like way older. Do you ever see the, you know, when they get it right with like a dinosaur skeleton? I mean, as far as you know, how like off it is. Somebody did a cool thing where they showed if like you found horse bones, like what the way we draw the dinosaurs, what it would look like. It looks crazy because it's always too tight on the skeleton. You know, there's not enough like meat built on it in most of the conceptions.

Right. We have no idea what they are. Like imagine what a T-Rex actually looks like. I like to look for the updates of, like, what they, you know, because even they had a good, like, dinosaur show I liked at the time on Discovery or something, but even those are all, like... Well, they don't have feathers either. They think a lot of them had feathers now. But not T-Rex is the last I heard on.

Really? That's the last thing that I heard looking it up. They don't think he had feathers? No, and it's because there's a patch of the skin pressed up on something where you can see it's not oh i just was looking up some article this is kind of recent oh maybe that's what it is i don't know if this was a t-rex they found specifically so it's hard to imagine this animal died 76 million years ago it's been perfectly preserved since uh since then and just happened to be starting to erode out of this cliff when we were walking by wow that's fucking nuts because you've really only seen a fraction of all the stuff that there was because right because

fossil find fossils are kind of rare look at that so these guys are seeing this stuff erode and then they find it there you know how much more yeah how much more of that is there that's what's nuts like what what percentage of the fossil record is really accurate in terms of like um how many species are out there that haven't been discovered it's like a fraction of what it is like i wonder like what other yeah like what other dinosaurs existed that they haven't found a body yet? Because a lot, you know, only animals that have bones like that that can be preserved

are going to be preserved. And they have to be caught up in like a landslide or some shit, right? Yeah, it's real specific. Because you always say it's a rare process, fossilization, but then you read these stories

when they first found them and they have dinosaur bone wars and they're dinosaur bone wars and There's like blowing them up in war. Well, you know, you're faking it too guys were faking dinosaurs Yeah, there was some people that fake dinosaurs back in the day. Yeah, how'd they put them together wrong and all kinds of hilarious thing There's a whole thing about the first two guys that found dinosaur bones and figured out You imagine being the first guy to find something that indicates there was giant lizards roaming the earth what is this dinosaurs that found a t-rex and a triceratops locked in a battle wow so they're probably fighting to the death and got caught up in a landslide weighs 14

tons holy shit gotta be trained too because that just looks like someone stepped on a bug to me i'm like wow you guys Look at the ribs, man. Look at that. That's fucking wild. It also shows you how not Indiana Jones archaeology is where it's just you gently brushing some dust to get not. Very slowly in that case. Yeah.

To try to find these ancient dead creatures. Like a bullwhip never comes into it. No need for a satchel. Well, slow down. Yeah, he's got an IWC pilot's watch on. Yeah, it's that whole way of discovering things that used to exist is so crazy if you think about it that way

that it has to die in a very specific way to make a fossil. There's that one dinosaur that they had in one of the Jurassic Park movies that fights a T-Rex, and they just figured out totally... They just made one up, right? That giant thing? Yeah.

The raptor's a little made up. Well, the raptor, but... Raptors are kind of little. There's another one. The way that they did it in the movie, yeah. There's another one, like a kind of... To fight with the T-Rex dinosaur, I'm forgetting what his name is but they just discovered probably was aquatic and not how they have it uh in the in the movie it was like right after that and one of the

skeletons got blown up in world war ii that was like the the really good skeleton and then i don't know if they found another one or something but that's why they didn't know because it got blown up in the war oh really yeah there was a house that was for sale in malibu this crazy fuck no not malibu in beverly hills this crazy fucking house yeah and it had a raptor skeleton included in the purchase debacle 300 million dollars no no it wasn't that crazy but it was crazy though but it was like 30 million crazy but one of the million and the 30 million was a dinosaur. I mean it.

They had a fucking raptor. You know how dope that would be? Come over to my house. Oh yeah, here's a dinosaur. I mean it's cool. Look at that thing. I'll tell you what, it's more respectable

than a $50,000 blunt. Yeah, that's a little ridiculous. But I think that's a million dollars. Remember Chappelle's show where he had cribs where he's like, he sprinkled, he has Tyrannosaur eggs? He sprinkles diamonds in it because it makes his dookie twinkle.

Oh, it smelled wild. Should you be allowed to own a dinosaur? Like, can you sell a dinosaur? Like, how much would it allowed to own a dinosaur? Can you sell a dinosaur? How much would it cost to buy a dinosaur? Why not? They found some bones, a giant in a guy's backyard. Should you be able to keep that? That's a good question. Is that yours? I don't know if you know, but you could still buy and sell people.

Why the hell not? Go to YouTube and look what's going on in Libya. That's what that was on? You're welcome, Libya, by the way. We came. We saw. He asked her about that, by the way, in the Jon Stewart thing. Really?

With Libya. It's unreal what they're saying. Like, oh, do you just let them kill their own people? They had this highest standard of living in Africa before we helped out. Now it's a failed state. Yeah, now they have slave markets. That's what our- Open slave markets that you could watch on YouTube.

There's no infrastructure. That's the problem. Yeah. But there was an infrastructure. They destroyed it. But when you have brutal war after brutal war, and you have areas of this world where they've been under the control of

dictators and then you just get rid of that dictator you have all these people that have been living in this brutal scenario with these totalitarian governments and executions and military and right and then another powerhouse just comes in takes over it's like prison gangs taking over but but his thing was i remember remember, this is a thing I remember. There was a moment during the war on terror that I remember they were kind of rehabbing his image. Because he would go on the news and he was saying, like, we need to stop this Islamic terror. He was saying that. And he came to America in his big tent.

Everybody talked about it. And he had his, like, those Ukrainian or whatever all-female guard. Remember all this stuff about him? He was going to go off the Pedro dollar, which I never even heard of until a couple years ago. And that's when he had to go. Because they had built him up like, hey, you know, he's like an elder statesman and he's learned. And next thing you know, it's a bayonet rape. Dude, the way they killed him, when you see that video, the sheer animalistic terror in his eyes it's like a scene

in a movie it's like it's so stunning to see a guy who is a dictator getting captured by rebels and murdered right in front of you well whenever they shove that bayonet up his ass and he doesn't even blink i mean well he's probably in shock he was 100 in shock but the fact that guy just shoves it up his ass and he's just sitting there. And he's thinking, I should have stayed on that Petrodollar. Oh, yeah.

That's the first thing he was thinking. I take it back. Remember this story? Because I remember I saw a movie, a documentary called The Mad Dog Killer. And I remember seeing one about Saddam Hussein when I was younger. Not that I was a fan of Saddam Hussein,

but it was like there's one part where talking about his kids you know murderous sons even his daughter once said to a classmate i want to tear the teacher's vagina out and then they show his daughter she's like i don't know nine in this thing she's dancing and they put it in slow-mo so she's like like is this a smear job as a guy who's not into us on Hussein, it seemed a little bit much. But also probably accurate. You know what the sons did, right? Well, that devil's double thing, that guy might be completely full of shit, and I think probably is.

What is that? That whole story about he had to get surgery to look like Uday. Oh, I did hear about that. I don't know, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about what they used to do, what Uday and his brother I did hear about that. I don't know, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about what they used to do. What Uday and his brother Kuse used to do. They used to kidnap women on their wedding

day and feed them to their dogs. They'd rape them and feed them to their dogs. They did horrific shit. I have no... Here's why it's easy. Especially when it's time... Also, Saddam was given the key to the city of Dearborn, Michigan when I was young. Was he?

Yeah, when we liked him, when he fought Iran. So I bet they did all kinds of crazy stuff and we liked him. And all of a sudden, now that we don't like you, now it's a problem that you do this. Because there is no, I mean. That's what's scary, dude, is that how much of the world is under the thumb of a dictator like that? Most of it. As long as you do business with us how we want you to, you're good, man. That's all you got to do.

And then that's like Gaddafi. That's when it becomes a problem. Like, I think that was for France, actually. Because some rebels had promised oil. A bunch of his money went, his oil went to France. Jesus Christ. You know, in Haiti now, his oil went to France. Jesus Christ. You know, in Haiti now, like, you know, we killed their president. That was news briefly.

Who killed their president? I think we did. Are you unsubstantiated allegations on this nationally syndicated program? Well, I saw it on Breaking Points initially. What did they say? They said something funny was going on and then never talked about it again. But did they say that we actually executed him? The guy, when they...

What happened? I'm ignorant to the story. Okay. I need to know. You're acting as if this is something that everybody knows about. You don't know about it, do you? No? Oh, dude.

So what happened? So one of the guys that got caught, you know, they caught the shooters. Okay. Haiti president's assassination. Okay, here we go. What we know so far. I wasn't cutting into showing you the stuff. So when was he assassinated?

January of this year. Okay. The guy, the mercenary? His death in his private residence in the capital. Port-au-Prince. Oh, last year. Plunged the country, already suffered. Where does it. Oh, last year. Plunge the country already suffering. Where does it say?

How was he killed? He was shot dead inside his home in the Perlin 5 neighborhood in the hills above Port-au-Prince at 0100 local time on 7 July 2021. According to police, the president was shot 12 times and had bullet wounds to his forehead and several to his torso. His left eye had been gouged out and bones in his arm and his ankle had been broken. According to one of the judges conducting the investigation, he died at the scene. It was found laying on the floor on his back. His shirt soaked in blood. The first lady, Martine Moise, was also shot but survived.

Wait, where's the guy? But the thing is, the mercenaries, the guy is recorded saying, like, that's the thing to find. That's what I first saw was that recording, which I saw on Breaking Points. Now... What recording?

One of the killers was speaking in English and saying, like, I don't even want to quote it. You could probably find it well we'll find it let's find it that's crazy so that's why i first heard about it so i didn't know haiti did you know this like they're like the only successful colombian mercenaries who hired haiti's moise hired by Yeah, right. Holy shit. According to leaked audio, yeah. Dimitri Harard, head of the Haiti Presidential Palace Security Union, visited Colombia six times this year from January to May, and his security firm has been linked to CTU Security, the Miami-based security firm that recruited the mercenaries.

Jesus Christ. So are people in jail for this like what has happened i never heard any more reporting on it for a good long while until the reporting that we just sent a bunch of like heavy duty equipment to quell the protests i guess they're rioters and bad but that's the story but that's i heard that and then nothing about it so a u.s firm hired the hit people is that's what they're alleging Yeah, is that for sure fact? That's what they're alleging. I mean Jesus Christ I'm sure you can't say it

Definite definitively, I'll say it sounds plausible what firm whatever whatever we outsource everything's outsourcing You've get a firm to do a thing, and it's all, that's what everybody does. Never mind just like that kind of shit. Just life, just killing people. What do you think? Everything. What was the Haiti president opposed to? Well, I don't know what this initial one, but basically a lot of cheap labor comes out of there.

So a while back when Hillary was in, they quelled a thing because they wanted like, they want their pays like sub what our prisoners make. Here it says Haitian cops parade two U.S. mercenaries arrested over Jovenel Moise assassination. Jovenel, how do you say his name? Jovenel Moise. Jovenel, yeah, I don't know. I don't know why I'm acting like I know how to say that. Assassination.

Jovenel. They had two U.S. mercenaries. But you know Haiti's story, right? They had to pay. They were like the only successful slave revolt, I think, in like history. And they had to pay reparations for rebelling against it. They had to pay for reparations of France until the 80s. What? Yeah.

Really? Yeah. For rebelling? Yeah. They had to pay for reparations of France until the 80s. What? Yeah. Really? Yeah. For rebelling? Yeah. They caused them their slaves. No way. Look it up if you don't believe me. How do you sleep at night? I smoke a lot of weed. But that's the problem, isn't it?

Makes you want to dig into stuff more. I would say don't dig into any of it, is my advice. When France extorted Haiti after enduring decades of exploitation at the hands of the French, Haiti somehow ended up paying reparations to the tune of nearly $30 billion in today's money. You would think that would be a bigger thing. Whoa. But there's a lot of interest.

There's a lot of, I'm sure, bipartisan interest in keeping it how it is. Holy shit, dude. Oh, remember all those Haitian immigrants were coming in. They were saying they were whipping them, but it was like the reins on the guy's horse. Yeah, that was people at the border. They just had a photo that made it look like maybe he had swung that at somebody. But it was really just the reins of the horse. Everything's so goddamn dishonest.

They just want to sell links, right? They just want to sell clicks. But the fact that Haiti paid reparations for not being slaves, okay? That's like a wild fact that... I didn't know until five minutes ago. Yeah, so instead of making up a whipping thing with a picture you why would you be talking about real things? Do you know? What I mean? Yeah Well cuz you don't give a shit That's my guess I

Think you might be onto something. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, dude. We have we're like four hours in oh shit We are women rambling son. Yeah, right to see you man. It's been a lot of fun. Yeah, you, we have we're like four hours in oh shit. We are women rambling son. Yeah, right to see you man It's been a lot of fun. Yeah, you too, man. I do this more often the real rabbit hole It's cuz they I got to work on Jimmy's goddamn show and Vaguely be aware of Don't get out while I can I don't know I have have no idea what, I'll ask him. He said what's up,

by the way. Tell him I said what's up, too. All right, brother. Always good catching up with you. I forgot. I'm going to be at Uncle Vinny's on the 30th. In Point Pleasant?

Yeah, to the 30th, to the 3rd. Nice. And also me and Kyle are making new fresh prezzes. We got to make 12. Oh. We have a contract,

so there's new fresh prezzes coming out. We didn't even talk about those. The Dunnigan stuff, the two of you together are the best combination ever. Those fucking things are so funny, man. They're so out there, too. We got, yeah, we have,

do you see we got Seinfeld to do the last one? No. Yeah, Seinfeld did it. He played Sylvester Stallone's Celebrity Squid Game to feed a hungry kid. He had to finish Seinfeld. He was great.

He was like a great sport. Oh, wow. That's awesome. Yeah. Very happy to be on the show. As well. Thank you kindly, sir. The man who saved NBC.

They could use you right now. Believe me. All right. Now, since you're a celebrity, you'll be playing for charity. And your charity's name is Josiah. How you doing, kid? For lunch, I drank a puddle. So they have to get it right.

Here's how you play. About to drink a puddle? Yeah, it's a squid game. Oh, Jesus Christ. So he has to finish his own lines. He won, though. It was he has to finish his own lines. He won the, it was a Thanksgiving meal for little Josiah. And then, well, watch it. It was actually a good, the game came out really well.

We did it with Ryan Flippy, too, one time. I'll check it out. It's at Kyle Dunnigan's YouTube page. Not nearly enough subscriptions on that. Or the Instagram one. You guys are hilarious. All right, brother. Well, thank you. Yeah, man. Tonight, you're doing Kill Tony. Or the Instagram one. You guys are hilarious. All right, brother. Well, thank you.

Yeah, man. Tonight, you're doing Kill Tony. That should be fun. Oh, yeah. I forgot. All right. I got spaced out on this one. Yeah.

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