The Joe Rogan Experience - #1909 - Stavros Halkias

Episode Date: December 13, 2022

Stavros Halkias is a stand-up comic and host of the new "Stavvy's World" podcast. His latest special, "Stavros Halkias: Live at the Lodge Room," is available on YouTube. www.stavvy.biz ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. It's kind of a weird thing that we're here, honestly. Yeah. It's weird here. Yeah, because L.A., it's like famous people are everywhere. They're everywhere. They know how to act. People know how to act.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Here, it's just starting a little bit. It's just like Matthew McConaughey. Yeah. Elon, but Elon just starting a little bit. It's just like Matthew McConaughey. Yeah. Elon, but Elon never goes anywhere. Yeah. He's always working on five different companies. Right. Who else?
Starting point is 00:00:32 Who else is in Austin? Zach Levy, but he lives out a little bit further out in the country. Yeah, just McConaughey. Dawson moved here. James Van Der Beek. Ooh. There you go. That's right.
Starting point is 00:00:43 He's here. And then the other There's a few guys Well it's also I think Podcast fame Sandra Bullock But she's never here either She's always working
Starting point is 00:00:51 Yeah So I think podcast fame And internet fame It's like people You're much more approachable too Yeah You know Because it's like
Starting point is 00:00:56 You're in their ears Well they 100% know you 100% know you Yeah They know all The most embarrassing stories You told Seven years ago
Starting point is 00:01:03 When you were like Podcasting isn't gonna catch on And you talked about years ago when you were like, podcasting isn't going to catch on. And you talked about things you put in your ass in middle school. They're like, oh. Bro, 12 years ago for me, we started off with a fucking laptop using a webcam. High as fuck. Just recording directly to the webcam, like the laptop audio. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Well, we had some sort of a USB microphone. Yeah, yeah. But we also did like everything completely obliterated. We were doing volcano hits. Oh, dude, the volcano. That's a beautiful thing. You didn't know why you were saying it. Why you were saying it.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Like while you were saying it, you're like, what am I saying? Of course. Well, no one's going to listen. Who gives a fuck? I'm just having fun. And then they did. Back then it was like, you know, a good episode would have like 2,000 people. For real.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Now with tweet that gets 2,000, I'm like bombed. I know. What happened? What went wrong? Yeah. It's fucking fascinating to see the difference in tweets now because people aren't scared to post what they really think about something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:04 So like NBC News will post something and then underneath it you'll just see a cascade of people shitting all over them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And harshly. Right, right, right. It's wild. You're making death threats? No, not that. They're not.
Starting point is 00:02:16 They're like, fuck you, Tucker. But they can be funny again and not worry about getting banned or shadow banned or any of that stuff. Yeah, yeah. No, I honestly barely use Twitter anymore. It's just like- Me too. Purely for, all social media, honestly, I just do to fucking, because it's comedy and you have to get people out to stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Right, promotion. Yeah. I really don't think people should use that. I mean, I'm not breaking any ground here, but it's like, I barely, you know. You and I are on the same page. Yeah. It's not, dude, I put my phone away for like, this summer I went went back to Baltimore I got I lost like 20 pounds my brother my brother's a trainer and I just didn't use my phone I was fucking eating right I was working out every day
Starting point is 00:02:54 fucking I felt great I was like this is awesome I'm gonna go into the next leg of the tour I'm in New York for like four days and I'm like I'm just gonna check Instagram to try and get pussy and I haven't been off it for more than 20 minutes for four months. You know what I mean? It's like, and I was like, you know what you have to do. But it's like, you know, you can't stop. And then the fucking algorithm gets you, bro. The TikTok algorithm.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I don't fuck with TikTok, but apparently that's the worst. I was just going to say that I was listening to Chris Williamson. Do you know him? No. He's another guy who's out here in Austinin great really interesting intelligent guy did he runs a great podcast but he had scott galloway on and they were talking about how tiktok is essentially engineered to like keep us engaged and also accentuate all of our disagreements and arguments and make america look like a real shithole i didn't even think about our disagreements and arguments and make America look like a real shithole. I didn't even think about the disagreements and arguments
Starting point is 00:03:46 because my feed is like, they've completely got me. It's like fucking just a nice sandwich. It's like, and I'm trying to get fucking jacked these days. So it's like just fat guys, like fat guys, weight loss journeys. Like they know everything. And then it's like a muscle girl, which I'm into now. You know what I mean? They've created a new fetish for me just off of fucking,
Starting point is 00:04:06 it started with just like instructional stuff and now it's just like some girl who's just fucking you know crushing a watermelon with her thighs and then dead lifting like you know 800 pounds
Starting point is 00:04:14 and I'm like you like those I'm in you like those I'm in I want those cause in my mind that's gotta be
Starting point is 00:04:20 there's gotta be one of them that wants to fuck a fat guy to like straight them out cause it's exactly it's a project you fucking fat piece of like just That's got to be, there's got to be one of them that wants to fuck a fat guy. Straight them out. Exactly. It's their project. You fucking fat piece of shit. Like, just pinching my tits.
Starting point is 00:04:32 You know what I mean? And I'm like, I'm a fucking little fat fellow. I'm your fuck pig. She's got me oinking while she's eating my ass. That's got to exist. You know what I mean? A hundred percent. And you're going to find her after the show.
Starting point is 00:04:44 That's why I'm here, Joe. She's reaching. Right now, she's got her thumbs moving gals hit me up the dms are open does girls are that jacked have to be like really horny too you'd think so the although they're super physical yeah although because you're in the you're in peak physical shape so it's like all your hormones and shit must be firing off And I think nature would tell you that if you're a woman and you have to lift all this heavy stuff Then like you're in trouble Aren't doing their job. They're not defending the village. You're preparing for war. Yeah, so you probably all your testosterone ramps up I didn't know floating the pheromones out there to get a warrior So you're probably the p pussy's probably a top notch.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Top notch. Because if your body thinks you're in distress, they want to get a mongrel to make you his wife. Yeah, some super fucking killer Viking character. Yeah, but thank God. It's probably tight like a drum too. Absolutely. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Oh my God. They could probably lift me. They could probably do deadlifts. Put my dick in, clench, and then just do squats. Have you ever seen that? That's probably possible. Picture, it's a meme, the type of men who wear masks in their car, and it is a woman holding a guy up while they make out, and the guy's got his legs wrapped around the By the way, I'm in.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Sounds awesome. Do you want me to keep the wristbands on his legs wrapped around the woman. By the way, I'm in. Sounds awesome. Do you want her to keep the wristbands on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chalked hands like she's deadlifted. Oh my God. I want my dick to get chafed from the calluses. I want my dick to feel like it's been at the spa all day. Like it's been completely rubbed off.
Starting point is 00:06:22 A new layer of skin comes off every time I get jacked off by those. a salt bath yeah exactly you've been scrubbed yeah yeah yeah yeah a hundred percent that's what i want i didn't know that about myself but i'm in there and then listen i'm still you find out things you find out through the algorithm and you don't know what you like until you see it no sir i did hook up with one girl that was like strong and i think she had that thing going on she just kind of dm'd me and i was like fuck yeah let's get in there and it was nice I was like going down on her and I had like giant thighs just wrapped around my head to the point where I was started to no joke I'm not exaggerating just blackout like I started seeing spots and I was like if I don't make her come I'm going to die and there was like a fucking thrill to that there was like it felt like indiana jones
Starting point is 00:07:05 sliding under the fucking thing with the you know what i mean i was like i have moments to make this woman bust before i lose consciousness it was fucking thrilling yeah so i don't know but i guarantee you there's a thing like that where a woman like doesn't even want a powerful man she just wants a guy that she can turn into a project. Because women always do that with guys anyway. Sure. The same type of women that adopt sad dogs. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I'm going to help you. I'm going to fuck the bulldog. I'm going to help you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of people, they'll take on projects with people. Yeah. Brian Callen used to always do that. He used to have these gals that he would date.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I'd be like, Brian, fucking stop. Interesting. He'd be like, it's okay. I'm going to help her out. It to always do that. Okay. He used to have these gals that he would date. I'd be like, Brian, fucking stop. Interesting. And he'd be like, it's okay, you know, I'm going to help you out. And it was always a disaster. They want meth heads, like wild shit. I'm ready to be someone's disaster. I'm ready to have a good three months until I slip off my diet. And they're like, I found fucking oatmeal cream pies in the wrappers in the garbage.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I'm like, I don't know what to tell you, babe. Somebody must have broken in and had fucking a Dove bar because it wasn't me. I was doing fucking burpees. I was doing burpees. I was doing lat pull-downs, I swear to God. That was when I was doing hot yoga, babe. Kick me out. There's a PS5 and she kicks it and just snacks fall out of it
Starting point is 00:08:26 i've taken all the hard drive i've taken all the games out and it's just fucking twizzlers and fucking chocolates she finds a secret fridge filled with coke mountain deuce i'm like those are my uh family heirlooms from greece that's don't touch those if you're in a relationship and you have to hide what you actually like. Oh, yeah. Like, oh, man. Well, I think part of it is because a lot of my relationship, you know, I'm big on therapy. I've been thinking about this shit all the time. A lot of my relationships, what I'm into is someone who just treats me way too good because it's like that's my mom kind of coddled me.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I was a mama's boy. I was the firstborn. I was like one of those like smart, precocious little kids who's like always saying something fun. Right. And so every time I've really, really liked a girl to like be in a serious relationship,
Starting point is 00:09:11 she's just kind of like over the top, kind of met, like I wouldn't have to hide anything because they're like, oh, you can't even help it. You know? And I'm like, I'm sorry, I can't. You know?
Starting point is 00:09:21 And so I think part of me wants like, yeah, fucking throw me through the ringer. Some hot mama. Yeah, dude. How much stepmom porn is there out there? There's a lot out there. It seems crazy. I think it's-
Starting point is 00:09:31 Like what happened? When did this emerge? Every now and then I'll check in. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's a whole different wave of genre going on. That is huge. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I'm not- See, that's the weird thing. You would think I would have like mommy shit. I don't have that. I find it disgusting shit is different stepmom is like dad is divorced but dad's rich true and dad marries his really hot slut right and he's out at work all day he's got a fucking run the corporation and you're this jock son in college, that's like all of them. Absolutely. That sounds pretty good. You know what I'm in.
Starting point is 00:10:11 It's like a classic fucking Joseph Campbell genre. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the hero's journey. It starts at dinner one day. Because no one feels bad for anyone involved. Like no one feels bad that she's cheating on the son. The son is in college. Of course. So that's fine.
Starting point is 00:10:29 The dad is probably some rich piece of shit. Yeah, emotionally abusive, neglectful. He got what's coming to him. Probably cheated on his mom, who was an amazing woman. You're right. And now he's with this floozy. She had chemotherapy. Maybe she died. He wasn't there. He wasn't there. He wasn't there. He didn't give a fuck. He was at the office. No, he was at the office. And now he's got this new one.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Exactly. And she's a fucking weightlifter. Oh, now we're talking. Yeah, yeah. Let's fucking get it all together. Weightlifter wearing pumps, giant thighs, fucking jacks. Now we're getting into what I'm liking. She comes into my room.
Starting point is 00:10:56 She's like, why haven't you done your homework? I'm like, you're not my real mom. She's like, what the fuck did you say to me? Shoves me up, picks me up against the wall. That's now we're talking. And then you lean towards and she just goes for it. She starts making out with you. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:10 She holds you up with one arm where she's grabbing your dick with the other one. Just chokers. Crazy. From behind. Lifting you up. Choking you. But doesn't let me come the first time. She's like, finish your homework.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Maybe you'll bust next time. I'm like, yes, ma'am. Oh, wow. I become a model student. I'm in a little tie, finish your homework. Maybe you'll bust next time. I'm like, yes, ma'am. Oh, wow. I've become a model student. I'm in a little tie, suit and tie. Well, hello, father. Dude, we might just have created the new genre of porn. It's got to advance.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Female trainer, like muscular. The thing is, how many really jacked muscular females go into porn? True. Probably a very small minority. Very small minority. I've done the research. It's not that many. I have jacked off to a couple of videos. I don't think that's a genre yet.
Starting point is 00:11:50 No, but we'll get there. You have to get people to train for it, like Cirque du Soleil. Get these gals going, look, there's a whole new genre. If porn was organized the way film and television was. Yeah, yeah. Look at this gal holding that guy over her head holy shit look at the size of her how is that how big is that
Starting point is 00:12:10 dude he's a little guy but bro she looks like she's got some fucking stock genetics oh yeah like that will make you a barbarian i mean that guy's warrior that guy's foot could fit in her pussy look at the size of her fucking legs and her ass muscles. The way she's hoisting that guy one arm over her head. Let's just assume he's a tiny guy. Tiny guy. He's got to weigh 100 pounds. Let's say 5'2", 100 pounds.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Even if he's 100 pounds over your head with one arm like that, it's crazy. Yeah. And the fact that it's this woman who's very womanly. When is this from? 19th century muscle women. I was looking at other pictures and just saw that. Bro, that is 100% like Viking genetics. Right?
Starting point is 00:12:53 100%. Oh, you got two little guys. Two little guys with one arm over her head. And that's the thing. No one could. You weren't allowed to jack off to stuff, you know, plainly. This couldn't be a sex thing. But this was 100% a sex thing
Starting point is 00:13:05 back then. Look at the size of her and she's holding three guys on her arms. Holy shit. What did she do? This seems like the same lady. This is a genre. She's lost to history. No offense to this long since passed woman.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah. But she has a very masculine face. She does. That easily could be a guy that sells you IT service. Right? That's the guy that comes in with a clipboard and says, like, do you guys want high-speed internet? Like, how many gigabytes do you guys think you use?
Starting point is 00:13:34 Oh, you don't need that upload speed. You guys are fine where you're at. Go back to that picture. They don't like when I say this, but you guys are fine. Of that person. Is that the same person? Come on, man. That easily could be a guy who works at Google.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Absolutely. Throw a vest on her. Yeah. Like a stout guy, too. That easily could be a guy who works at Google. Absolutely. Throw a vest on her. Yeah. Like a stout guy, too. Look how stout she looks. Yeah. Because she's got the corset. Who knows what she'd actually be like.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Damn. Look at the fucking guns on that lady. Oh, hell yeah, dude. Oh, my God. You like that. Oh, the back. I'm in the back, too. How much do they know about lifting weights and getting bigger?
Starting point is 00:14:04 Back then? Isn't that crazy? It is crazy. Did you really stop and think about it? Yeah. People didn't really figure that out until a couple hundred years ago. Well, if no one looked like Ronnie Coleman until Ronnie Coleman. No, totally.
Starting point is 00:14:17 No, there's even like- That's like a couple, we're talking about decades of difference between Frank Zane and what they do today. Dude, I think, was it Lin Swan? I don't remember who it was. Katie Sandwina, that's her name? There was a running back. It was in 1884. Look at the size of that.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Fuck, yeah, Katie Sandwina. There was a running back on the Bears. I'm blanking on his name. There's videos of her? I mean, it's pictures. Oh, that's a tough angle. Yeah, it's a rough one. I'm off.
Starting point is 00:14:43 I'm actually off the Katie train. Maybe it was later in life. Yeah, it's pictures. Oh, that's a tough angle. Yeah, it's a rough one. I'm off. I'm actually off the Katie train. Maybe it was later in life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe she kept accelerating. Oh, she was enormous. She was, yeah. Look at the size of her. She was 16 and his name was Hyman, who was 19.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Jesus Christ, dude. Oh, they got married. Hell yeah. Short king and a big lady. Now we're talking. 182 centimeters. How tall is that? Now we're, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I should know that. 182. Let's guess. I should know that. Let's guess. 6'2". 5'11". Let's see. 590. Does it count as 6 foot? 6 foot?
Starting point is 00:15:13 It's right about 6 foot, yeah. Oh, she's 6 foot. All right. There we go. It's a big lady. Big lady. Big stout lady. So the running back, I'm blanking on his name, but literally the trainers, he was like,
Starting point is 00:15:24 hey, should I lift weights like the defensive, you know, like the linemen? And they were like, no, that'll slow you down. Like they literally had no one. This is in the 70s. The NFL. That was with boxing too. It's crazy, dude. In the boxing era of like Marvin Hagler and Sugar Ray Leonard, it was like commonly thought that if you lifted weights,
Starting point is 00:15:45 it would slow you down. Yeah. And it would ruin your punching power. Like they would only do calisthenics. Like Marvin Hagler did just sit-ups and push-ups and stuff like that. You'd have to be a freak of nature to make it, which is even more impressive. Not necessarily. You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:15:59 No, because there's a lot of exercise. There's a lot of thought to just getting very efficient at the technique when it comes to fighting. Some people believe in strength and conditioning as the primary. They think that that's more important than anything. There's a school of thought like the Marv Marinovich school of thought, which was you already know how to fight, so get in insane shape. Right, right, right. And so he had guys doing these crazy plyometrics and all this different jumping boxes and stuff. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And they got, you know who BJ Penn is? BJ Penn? BJ Penn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. One of the greatest fighters of all time. Yes. And BJ's in his prime, BJ was training with the Marinovichs.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Okay. So he was just doing these unbelievably brutal cardio workouts every day. And almost no martial arts. And then he would go and have a gas tank that was off the charts. Right. When you got a guy who's R and he's talented as BJ with zero fear of getting tired. Right. He was the GOAT.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah. There was like, if there's a fighter that I'd ever want to see, it'd be Khabib Nurmagomedov in his prime versus BJ Penn in those years in the Marinovich years. BJ Penn was a motherfucker, man. That was the- He was a motherfucker. Woo! I did have an era, actually. My little brothers were much more into UFC shit, but the Penn era, I was in there a little bit.
Starting point is 00:17:19 We would go to Buffalo Wild Wings at White Marsh Mall, me and my brothers, and we would watch UFC shit. But that's my last frame of reference. I don't catch up with it. I'm not with it as much anymore. BJ Penn was so unusual that he won the 155-pound title, he won the 170-pound title, and he fought heavyweight. He fought Lyoto Machida as a heavyweight. That is fucking insane. He fought Lyoto Machida as a heavyweight. That is fucking insane. Bro.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Off the ply of metrics. Gangster. Yeah. You think he could take Katie? He's just gangster. When he fought Lyoto, he wasn't even doing that stuff. That was pre-prime BJ. That was when he would just fucking train.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And he just ate. He's like, fuck it, I'll fight anybody. And Lyoto Machida was like a UFC light heavyweight champion at one point in time. This was before the UFC, but Lyoto was still a bad motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. BJ fought him at heavyweight. I do love that. I love when a guy towards the end just kind of gets a little fat, doesn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:18:17 That's the coolest. That makes me sad. I love it, dude. That makes me sad. Tony Gwynn, fat as shit, still fucking never striking out. It was awesome. That's different. Baseball is different. I guess you're right than combat sports.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Combat sports, when guys don't want to do it anymore, they gotta stop. Because there's a one foot in, one foot out thing that happens. And you just get your shit rocked. And then some young guy comes up, or young gal comes up, and he or she fucks you up. And that's just how it goes. These kids that are coming up, they're
Starting point is 00:18:44 fucking unburdened by life yeah yeah yeah they've only been alive for 22 years yeah yeah they have fucking unbelievable bodies that recover quickly right and if they train well and also they grow up learning it on television yeah and watching it on youtube they're seeing martial arts from the time they're little kids so like all these techniques are, so, like, they're practicing when they're fucking around with their friends. And there's nothing cooler than dethroning a legend. Nothing cooler.
Starting point is 00:19:11 So they're coming at you with everything. Yeah, everybody wants to be Mike Tyson. Yeah. You know, Mike Tyson was 20 years old. He wins the heavyweight championship. And everybody's like, whoa! Fully. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:19:21 No one wants to be Mike Tyson getting knocked out. No one wants to be Tyson when he retired. I think it was 90. It was February 11th, 1990. Because it was a year after I was born. Or it was when he... When he lost to Buster Douglas? Yes, the Buster Douglas fight.
Starting point is 00:19:37 But even after the Buster Douglas fight, he was still Mike Tyson. People were still terrified of him. He was just like a little resting on his laurels, you know. Fucking the maid. That's the best story of all time. He was out of control. I mean, he'll tell you what he was doing. I mean, he was out of fucking control.
Starting point is 00:19:52 You know, he fought on drugs. He fought sick. He was sick. Like he had, when he knocked out Michael Spinks, he had some sort of venereal disease. No bullshit. Dude, Mike Tyson in that era. Dick Leakin. Just fucking throwing haymakers.
Starting point is 00:20:09 You gotta think, like, part of the reason why he was so good was because he was so wild. But also, if he wasn't, if he just maximized his insane potential and was like a Marvin Hagler type guy who just did nothing but train and trained in Solitude and all yet only had his eyes on the prize only had his eyes on beating the best in the world I just don't think it was different
Starting point is 00:20:35 You know exactly it's like and you lose that essence. I think fully it's like maybe he's one of the I know you mean It's nice to think about it as like a video game and it's like just run him through it. Right. He's your creative character and it's like, but the same guy who had that kind of power, he needed to fucking ask the housekeeper to suck him off. You know what I mean? Like when they kept, that's my favorite story about when they were like, you can't go out, Mike.
Starting point is 00:20:58 You got it. And he just fucked the maids. And it was just like, that's who he fucking was. And it's like, yeah, that's the guy who's going to fight with gonorrhea. And he's still going to knock you out. Yeah, in one round. Yeah. Knocks out Michael Spinks, who's the all-time great light heavyweight.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Fully. Who would just beat Larry Holmes. Yeah, Tyson and his brother. That's what everybody wants to be. You want to be that young, upsurging phenom. Like BJ was when BJ was in his youth, too. The same kind of thing. When he was coming through the ranks, he was this young upstart.
Starting point is 00:21:28 But nothing for you. I mean, that's what you want because that zenith is so high. Like that moment when you're fucking taking it. But it's like, I don't know, man. Wouldn't you rather just have the glory and then the fall? Or would you want to just get the glory
Starting point is 00:21:44 and maintain is probably the best thing, right? That's what you want to be. Yeah. But if you had to choose one or the other, I'm really into the, I'm reading the Iliad. I'm really into the Trojan Warship right now. And it's like Achilles had that thing where they were like, you have two options. You can be a short life, but you're the most fucking, fucking big dick warrior of all time. Everyone will be scared of you. You'll go down in the history books forever or a long life no one's ever heard of you
Starting point is 00:22:09 you're happy you have kids and he obviously chooses that he chooses like fuck yeah dude let's go fuck some shit up and then and then he's the fucking man he's so cool but then in the odyssey uh odysseus has to go to like hades and he he he finds Achilles and he's like I fucked up dude this fucking sucks I hate being dead I wish I was fucking a grandfather I wish I was back in the village and it's just like you want that thing but you never I don't know man sometimes you just think
Starting point is 00:22:36 I'm thinking about that now with comedy where it's like fuck dude this is cool I'm getting the fucking you know my special went well I'm getting to sell some tickets but I'm on the road constantly it's what I dreamed of when I was 19 and I'm getting the fucking you know my special one well I'm getting to sell some tickets, but I'm on the road constantly It's what I dreamed of when I was 19, and I'm like damn. I'm just gonna it's a lot of work a lot of work I'm getting fat as shit It's hard to stay healthy. I'm tired all the time which again. I'm not complaining This is my dream, but it's like there's got to be a balance between like
Starting point is 00:22:59 Fucking selling out everything to get the thing because then something shit comes after that right and there's so many stories of people that Get what they want and I mean Tyson is a pretty good example where it's like it wasn't he was still Mike Tyson But it is he was never he never reached those heights and it completely fucked his personal life up obviously obviously And so that's the thing where it's like you got to think like there's got to be a balance the thing about combat sports though That is really fascinating to me is I think it ignites in us that same weird instinct to conquer but it does so in like an agreed upon manner instead of doing so through war right it's like a great way to avoid war for sure because like how many of these guys who would be dominant mma fighters they were living five six hundred years ago who would be dominant MMA fighters, they were living 500, 600 years ago, they would be dominant warriors.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Right, right, right. Almost all of them. Yeah, yeah. Like, society has figured out a way through things like football, which was initially created for that. Yeah. Like, football was literally created as a sport to sort of simulate. To draw some steam. Wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:23:57 Didn't we go over that before? Like, ground war? That football was created, was invented to sort of simulate war? I mean, couldn't you say that about- Can we find that? Let's find that with the article, because I don't want to fuck that story war. I mean, couldn't you say that about- Can we find that? Let's find that with the article because I don't want to fuck that story up. Because it's an interesting story about the origins of football. But there's a thing when you watch a guy win a world title fight.
Starting point is 00:24:16 There's a thing when you watch two of the best in world fight where everyone gets to watch. And these guys who are the wildest and craziest of our population get to do this thing, which is akin to combat. Fully. It's like physical combat with no weapons, but your own body. Yeah. Use that as a weapon and then see who knows how to do that better and you do it in front of the world. Yeah, I mean, that is the ancient shit of single combat, right? Where it's like each culture, or if you wanted to avoid a war, we pick our best guy and we
Starting point is 00:24:49 fuck each other up. And there is a feeling of that definitely, especially when it's clashes of cultures, right? When it is like Khabib and it is fucking Conor or whatever, it's like these guys from completely different places and it almost feels like, like that's what's cool about the World Cup. Obviously it's not,
Starting point is 00:25:08 it's not combat sports, but there is something sick where you're just like, these countries, this means so much to them. So much to them. And these people, like they got eliminated,
Starting point is 00:25:16 but Japan and Korea, if they had won, they would have played each other in the fucking World Cup and it's like, Korea would have fucked Japan. Like they have, they're so mad. I mean, that's their oppression. You know what I mean? Like Japan fucked Korea up. Right. You know what I mean? And it's like korea would have fucked japan like they have so they're so mad i mean that's
Starting point is 00:25:25 their oppression you know what i mean like japan fucked korea up right i mean it's like those ancient rivalries like england and france fought each other for thousands of years you know what i mean it's like there is it's just so there is something fucking awesome about and whenever whenever like a third world country plays america you don't think they want to fuck america up course fuck you you got all the money in the world. We don't give a fuck. We know you put our dictator in power. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know you orchestrated it, Cole. Come on, dude. My uncle was the democratically elected guy's fucking minister of the press. He got assassinated too. You got to go, motherfucker. Yeah. This is for the CIA.
Starting point is 00:26:02 This goal is for the CIA. Yeah, I mean, it's like war proxy. It's cool. What was that article? You highlighted something? No. It's a tradition of it. I don't know that it was like an official mandator.
Starting point is 00:26:15 It says, a deeper connection was claimed during both world wars, football as a training ground for soldiers and officers, the game as a mimic war requiring cool thinking self-sacrifice and physical courage so at least in some ways it's obviously from that it's like a proxy yeah it's like a thing that you can do you could do that instead of war or maybe it can help you practice for sure but that's especially back then when they really world wars could pop off at any time at any time maybe you can't you know that's the thing with combat sports combat sports too. It's all of it is, it's the same thing. It's like it's just a way,
Starting point is 00:26:49 there's a thing that people have inside of them they want to conquer. Yeah. And men, women want to do it too. They want to do it socially. For sure. You know,
Starting point is 00:26:56 and it's, and some women physically are the ones you want to fuck. Yeah, conquer me. It's a weird thing that we have in us and it makes you wonder if people hadn't figured out sports and hadn't figured out games yeah yeah how much would we be fucking each other up it seems like that's what people are designed to do and all these other things that we do that all the other animals don't do are probably the thing that's allowed us to become
Starting point is 00:27:21 what we are right it's probably the things that have allowed us to become what we are. Right. It's probably the things that have allowed us to figure out civilization. You blow off a little steam. And we figured out ways, yeah, to get along. Like, let's play with a ball. Right. Let's, I'm going to hit this ball instead of your fucking head. Right, right, right. I'm not going to sneak in.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Think about it. A weapon, a bat is a fucking club. Oh, dude. It's a total weapon. Yeah. It's like, instead of your fucking head, which I want to hit, let's use coconuts. I'm going to pretend it's the, I'm going gonna pretend you're fucking nuts or this coconut yeah and they said back to them there was a no I think we researched this too but god damn that
Starting point is 00:27:51 marijuana is ruining my respect such a great racket about was that fucking meme I saw was that article in the Mayan that Mayan football game they used to have a football game and which is like football and a little like lacrosse it was like kind of yeah you had to like knock it through like a hole yeah and there was also talk that sometimes they used a human head yeah that I don't know if that was folklore or true and then there was another thing that I read that I never could remember if this is accurate, that the winning team would be sacrificed. Whoa. That's fucking sick.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Go to the gods and win our sacrifice. That'd be a long-ass game where people keep missing the ball. What is it, Jamie? There's an article about it that says, for instance, that the game's winners and losers get sacrificed at the end of the game. The answer to both questions is no. No. So it's all bullshit. Players are likely not sacrificed.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But what if they were? You know, that'd be cool. It wasn't meant to go through the hoop. Dude, it wasn't? What is the hoop for? But that game was really violent. Oh, fuck. What is that?
Starting point is 00:28:52 There's like a hoop, right? This is all going to likely happen from time to time. This is sick, dude. That's not what it was for. Oh, okay. So it's like extra points? Yeah, it's like Harry Potter. It's just like, it's horrible.
Starting point is 00:29:03 It's all about catching the little gold thing. That's what I know. It would have been horrible if your best players were sacrificed. They would have to find new players all the time. Well, maybe they just did that because they have too many dudes that wanted to go to war. And there wasn't any wars going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So listen, we've got to kill off some of these fuckheads. I know what to do.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yeah, I also think every ancient tradition is just some insecure guy was in power. So maybe it was like there's a stud just this fucking big dick stud who's been winking at the chief's wife and he's like guess what dude you get to go see god because you're so good at sports we're gonna fucking kill you and it's like yeah so that your wife doesn't get fucked well how many dudes do they make fight to the death with swords for that yeah you know? 100%. Some fucking the mountain guy, you know? And your wife is hanging around and you're the king just because you say so. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:49 That kind of just fucking mush your head. I know. You make them fight to the death. Yeah, makes sense. I guarantee that's probably how they did a lot of those things back then. Everything, dude. Every tradition, every, like, why do you think every, like, uh, every, like, religion has a little hat that covers the bald spot?
Starting point is 00:30:06 Because some fucking guy, I think Yamaka's 100%. 100%. 100%. The guy was insecure about his bald spot. He's like, God said we actually have to cover this. All of us. Everyone. Even you with the beautiful hair, Joseph.
Starting point is 00:30:19 People with the best fucking hair ever. Like Jamie from Yellowstone. Just thick manes of hair. Sorry, bud. Tough shit. Put it in the cap. Wear the hat. God wants you to wear a fucking hat.
Starting point is 00:30:31 100%. How about the Pope gets to wear one, like a fish's head? What's that one? What the fuck is that one? That one's sick. I don't know what it's called. Imagine. You should kind of get suspicious when your guy can't dress like regular people.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like if you're in a cult, if you're in a religion, when the dude shows up dressed like a wizard, you should go, hey, is this on the level? Do we get one of those golden staffs? Look at this cat. Look at this cat. Look at this cat. He's got a golden staff, a golden helmet.
Starting point is 00:31:01 So we don't get those, huh? Just him. Bro, look at that hat. This is the new pope. The new pope is to him. Bro, look at that hat. This is the new pope. The new pope is more chill. See, his shit is silver. Notice how his shit is silver? He's humble, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Look at it. It looks like a peasant made it, like an artist's rendering. Yeah. The other one was like, look at the old guy, Ratzinger. Bartholomew? That fucking Ratzinger guy. Oh, yeah, yeah. The guy who let us step down.
Starting point is 00:31:21 He's got a- Because he was probably fucking his, like, attendant or something. What does it have like gold stars? Yeah. Well, he was. Didn't he like retire? No, no, no. He was responsible for moving pedophiles.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Uh-huh. And moving without reporting them, moving them to new places. How does that make him different from any other fucking folks? Well, because one of them he did where this guy, he moved this guy and he went on to molest a hundred deaf kids. A hundred deaf kids? A hundred deaf kids. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:31:50 They moved him to some place, like a school that takes care of deaf kids. Damn. They would just move people, man. The fact that that's a real thing. That's insane. And that we all know about it. And then deaf. You couldn't, like, you moved him to the deaf kids?
Starting point is 00:32:03 They wouldn't be able to say anything about it. He's sneaking up on them? Dude. Oh, that's brutal. How many fucking stories? 200. 200 deaf kids? Get his numbers right.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Oh, my God. Get his numbers right, dude. 200 kids were... The Will Chamberlain of molestation. Wow. Several American bishops repeatedly warned them that failure to act in this matter could embarrass the church. Oh, God forbid the church gets embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Jesus Christ. According to church files, Mooney unearthed this part of the lawsuit. Embarrass us. Embarrass us, dude. Hey, Mikey, you're fucking too many kids. Come on, dude. This is embarrassing. Come on.
Starting point is 00:32:35 This is like when I slip on my shoelaces. Yes. This is embarrassing. Oh, you sucked off 800 little boys. Well, I got some egg on my face. I spilled coffee in my lap on my way to work. It's embarrassing. That's so fucked.
Starting point is 00:32:49 What the fuck, man? I can't believe anyone, like, I don't mean to sound like hack college, you know, freshman year of college atheist shit here, but it's like, they do that. How are you going to be in a church? How do you go to a fucking church every week when it's like the Pope was just shifting guys around and giving him not only shifting around, putting him to the most molestable kids. He put him in the deaf kids. He didn't put him to like the fucking, the school
Starting point is 00:33:14 for like jacked children where they could defend themselves. So what do you think that is? You think it was just always a part of the church? Like, and people just started talking about it later in life? Fully. 100%.
Starting point is 00:33:27 So how does one church get so connected to that? Well, I just think they... Priest guilty of abusing deaf children in Argentine schools. So this is in 2019. 19. The previous one was like 10, 12 years ago. Oh, Jesus Christ. I mean, I think if you look at the history of the fucking Catholic Church, they were like, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:47 popes were like poisoning each other and fucking all the time. And it's like even the thing where priests can't have kids, it's like you look at that and it's like, were they just trying to not cover benefits? Like that's my sincere guess is that the pope at the time was trying to save money. Because it's like truly that's really what i think and like because like the greek orthodox church um not saying we don't have fucking no one fucks i mean i'm sure a couple guys fuck kids but it's like you get to have a wife in the greek orthodox church but the church covers your like family's living expenses and
Starting point is 00:34:20 shit and i really think like the catholic Church was just like nah nah nah I think the origin of it was the priests were like rock stars because if you think about if priests could fuck whoever they wanted to he's blinged out they look like they got the necklaces they look like rock stars they're the ones who get to talk in front of everybody and they have a special relationship with God oh God told me you uh have to off, actually. I saw it in a vision. And you've got to realize, like, up until, like, what was, when was Martin Luther? I don't even fucking know. Whenever that was. Yeah, the Protestant Revolution.
Starting point is 00:34:51 There's a great Dan Carlin hardcore history on that, on Martin Luther. So he was the first guy to make the Bible, interpret it phonetically so that people could read it. Yeah. Because everybody was just like. It was in Latin and no one read Latin. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So this was in 1507.
Starting point is 00:35:07 So think about that. And then in 15, up until 1507, you just had to listen to the priest. Yeah. You had to trust that what he was- So that guy's a rock star. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's decked out like a wizard. He's standing in front of everyone with a golden cane.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I bet he's fucking everybody. And he probably gets to bathe. You know what I mean? He probably is like, when we think about who's hot in the ancient world, it's like, they probably just got to take a bath. You know what I mean? Like fucking Helen of Troy or whatever, right? I guarantee you she just was a lady that bathed.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yeah, she smelled good. She just didn't smell like dog shit. That's really it. Because it's like, think about what a peasant looked like, how fucked up their skin was. Like, every hot girl I know today has a 12-step skincare routine. Right. Imagine, like, not only that, you don't even have water to wash your face. You're out in the fucking fields.
Starting point is 00:35:57 So imagine these priests. They get a little water. They get to bathe every once in a while. You're right. And no sunscreen. I didn't even think. Your face is fucked by the time you're 27. Forget about it.
Starting point is 00:36:07 For another 400 years after that, though, the mass was in Latin, so you had to know Latin to understand what was even happening. Wow. For 400 years after that? Until what year? Somewhere in the 70s or 85, depending on where your church sits. Oh, my God. That makes sense. But you could still read the Bible.
Starting point is 00:36:22 That totally makes sense. You could read the Bible, but that guy's still talking this voodoo language, dressed like a wizard. And then if you go to the Vatican, dude, that's the real eye-opener. I went to the Vatican on an edible. Oh, yeah, dude. And when I was walking around the Vatican, it kicked in while I was there. So I took it, and then I'm walking around. And as I'm walking around, I'm going, this is all a pedophile cult's booty. Like all their pirate booty.
Starting point is 00:36:51 100%. Like if you really think about how many people have been involved in these priest scandals. Like what is the number? Oh, my God. Throughout like history, God knows. God knows. Imagine that with any other thing imagine that with carpenters
Starting point is 00:37:06 every time you got your house built your kids got fucked look the fucking deck is pretty good though huh you gotta keep the carpenters you like growing out here away from your kids don't ever let the carpenters babysit your kids imagine
Starting point is 00:37:17 that would be fucking insane we'd be like we gotta abolish carpenters sorry we're getting new shelves everyone's gonna learn how to build their own house but when things are like a part of society for a long enough time and we grow up with them, we just accept them as being like a normal thing. Not that anyone's normalizing abuse, but everybody— They were, though. I mean, the Catholic Church was doing that.
Starting point is 00:37:37 If you say Catholic priest, people think abuse. 100%. It's an instant connection. It doesn't mean that they're all doing it. I'm sure most of them are absolutely not doing it. Most of them are. Most of them are great people. A couple of them are putting up some real numbers, some real molestation numbers.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Look at this. The Vatican revealed Tuesday that over the past decade has defrocked 848 priests who raped or molested children and sanctioned another 2,572 with lesser penalties, providing the first ever breakdown of how it handled more than 3,400 cases of abuse reported to the Holy See since 2004. See, imagine that with any other business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Any other industry.
Starting point is 00:38:19 I know. Self-help. Yeah. You know, it's like every time you went to a trader, they fucked your kid. Yeah. This is insane. I know, dude. It's fucking wild.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And it's a real thing. I know. It's like people are going to get mad at us for even bringing it up. I know. But it's like, how can you get mad at something that's so insane? That's my favorite. When they asked Bill Burr about that, that clip is the funniest thing where they're like, don't you think you went a little too far with the Catholic church jokes?
Starting point is 00:38:44 And he was like, don't you the catholic church went a little too far that's it right there that's it right there it's perfect well that's uh that's a perfect bill burlun want some coffee i'm good brother thank you yeah man it's um it's a but it's that's why i do fuck with the orthodox because they got it set up It's like you get a wife. That's a better set up. You only, you can't get married if you want to go high up in the church. So it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:09 they got, so maybe. Well, that's another scam. Yeah, maybe. So gay guys can keep running everything. It's like, look. They're probably the ones
Starting point is 00:39:16 that figure it out. It is, it is, it is like a very, especially back in the day, if you were a gay guy, and I'm not equating, obviously I'm not equating being gay with like molesting children. I'm just saying, if you were a gay guy, and I'm not equating being gay with molesting children.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I'm just saying, if you're a gay guy, the other parts of the church are pretty sick. You're blinged out, right? You're in a society where you can't be gay openly. So it's like, fuck it. If I can't get married, if I can't be who I am, I'll just take sex out of the equation fully. If I can't be who I am, I'll just take sex out of the equation fully. Right? So you got to think like, yeah, dude, get just fucking get some cool gold, gold encrusted,
Starting point is 00:39:50 ruby encrusted loafers. Get me the fucking hat. Let me run shit. You know what I mean? I've always equated being involved in the Catholic church when I was a kid to like sadness and depression. Because I went to it. Did you go to Catholic school at all? I went to Orthodox, so I went to Sunday school.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Greek Orthodox. Greek Orthodox, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck, by the way. That wasn't as guilt-ridden as Catholic school, was it? Dude, Greek people don't give a fuck. That's nice. We like- That's nice.
Starting point is 00:40:17 My dad would be like, you got to go to church. And I'd be like, why? He's like, because I had to. That's it. There's no deep spiritual meaning. There's no God told me to. It's just like, I had to do it, motherfucker. You're going.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And then you go to Sunday school, and it's just like, yeah, you know, Jesus was pretty. It's just like your friend's older sister. And we got to miss church to be in Sunday school. So it's like, yeah, fuck yeah, dude. I'll go in a little classroom and fuck around with my friends and hear about Jesus instead of sitting in church like an asshole. Yeah. It was great. Well, see, that's probably the attitude that you get from people that are allowed to get married and have kids. And so you could be like a normal person and also be a priest. Yeah. And you're a real part of the community. Like you grew up with the priest's
Starting point is 00:40:57 kid and it's like, you know, they experience real shit. That's another thing. It's so weird to go to somebody for like guidance on your marriage and it's like, he hasn't gotten his dick sucked in 48 years. There was a kid I knew when I was in high school and he was a really sweet guy. Really sweet guy, but he's pretty obviously gay.
Starting point is 00:41:17 When I was a kid, I lived in San Francisco. Because he was a really good kisser? You could tell? He tasted like dick. Every time we kissed. You're like, this is really good kisser? You could tell? He tasted like dick. Yeah. Every time we kissed. Every time he sucked you off, you were like, this is really good. You must be gay.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I mean, I don't know if he was gay, but I would not be shocked if he was. Yes, yes, yes. And he was always, I was always weirded out. I'm like, is this guy like reading so much religion because he wants to get rid of these feelings? Yeah, yeah. I think that happens for sure. I definitely think that happens. He became a priest.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I don't know what happened to that, but we were all like, like everybody who knew him was like, a couple people were like, that's great. It'll cure him. He's going to be Father Bill now. And I was, you know, a lot of my sister and I were like, poor guy. I know.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Especially because like I said, from age seven to 11, I lived in San Francisco, like gay people were just, it was just normal. Yeah. Of course. It was so common. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:12 So I grew up that way. Totally. And then, but moving to Florida in particular, and then again, moving to Boston. Yeah. I realized like,
Starting point is 00:42:19 God, a lot of people get like real bummed out if their kid's gay. Yeah. And it seemed like this dude was just, I mean, I could be wrong. Maybe he was just really into religion but yeah yeah yeah for a fucking 17 year old to be really really really into religion and like carrying a bible everywhere and reading it everywhere maybe maybe maybe that's like changing him and giving him power and still but even even still i think anyone at that age it's like you don't want to lock yourself into
Starting point is 00:42:44 something you can't get out of, right? And it's like maybe he was very into religion, but maybe, you know, that was just a coping mechanism. And when he really sat and thought about who he was or whatever, it's like he didn't want to be it. But then you're a fucking priest and there's all this pressure. And then since you've been studying, there's all this religious guilt and shit. You probably stay into it. And I feel, you know, obviously you feel bad if you know we don't we're just speculating here but if you did get trapped in that kind of shit that's tough it's tough i mean the same reason
Starting point is 00:43:11 fucking kids shouldn't like why student debt is such a like bullshit situation because it's like yeah you have some 17 year old kid who's like i want to be a marine biologist and then he goes and he's like oh i'm actually i can't do. I'm a fucking dumb as shit And now I owe $40,000 a lot more than that. Yeah. Yeah, it's Also, it's the only debt you can't get out of he's so fucked up. It's so Saddle kids with that like literal children 17 year olds 18 year olds with that is so nuts because you can get out of Everything. Yeah, I think Sam Bankman freed is gonna have to pay eight billion dollars It's so nuts because you can get out of everything. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Do you think Sam Bankman Freed is going to have to pay $8 billion or whatever the fuck is missing? Yeah, yeah. He's not going to have to pay that. Did you see this that Sager did, this piece about Ivy League? I think it was. No, let's play it because he's awesome. He was repeating Malcolm Gladwell's thing. It's a perpetual motion thing. Well, we'll get a sense of it.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Gladwell's thing, it's a perpetual motion thing. Well, why don't we get a sense of it? ...of learning in the U.S. have long departed their mission statements. They are effectively recession-proof industries set up to bilk the federal government and students while funding a pernicious ideology that is spreading across our higher elite like cancer. At the root of it is a rigged financial system. These industries beclown themselves because they can. They can because students pay. But more so, they don't even really need the students to pay anymore.
Starting point is 00:44:31 It has become increasingly clear in the size of university endowments, which Malcolm Gladwell recently revealed as a scam of epic proportions, focusing his laser on Princeton University. Princeton is the world's first perpetual motion machine, Gladwell writes. At the heart of his argument is this, quote, after a stellar year in 2021, Princeton University has an endowment of $37.7 billion. Over the past 20 years, the average annual return for the endowment has been 11.2%, which puts Princeton's return next year at roughly $3.77 billion. He continues, now what is Princeton's annual operating budget? That would be $1.86 billion. The arithmetic is not hard. $3.7 billion in investment minus $1.86 in operating still leaves you with $1.91 billion,
Starting point is 00:45:23 leading him to conclude what, Quote, Princeton could let every student in for free. The university administrators could tell the U.S. government and all of its agencies, it's cool, we got this. They could take out the cash registers in their cafeteria. They could hand out free parking to all visitors. They could give away Princeton sweatshirts on Nassau Street. They could fire their entire accounts receivable staff and their entire funding staff tomorrow. In fact, his team even put together this handy little chart. Princeton has been doing this recently, but for nearly two decades. On a year-by-year basis, their endowment return, just the return, nearly exactly equals or surpasses the entire operating budget of the whole school, meaning no student would ever need to be charged tuition again.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Or you could imagine a world where students pay much, much less. Also, as you can guess, this is not just the case with Princeton University. It's the case with almost every Ivy League institution in this entire country, whose endowments in some cases surpass, and I'm not kidding, the GDP of small African nations. With this mountain of wealth, why are they not doing what they were supposed to do? They were supposed to spend it on students. Instead, they simply reinvest the returns, build an ever-growing pile of cash, giving fees to money managers, all while continuing to raise tuition precipitously, even when you're all giving them is freaking Zoom school.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Tuition at Princeton right now is $80,000 a year. Let it sink in. That is 10 grand more than the average U.S. household income annually, which brings us to the tax code. Now, look. Yeah, that's good enough. I mean, Jesus Christ, what a scam. Ivy Leagues in general, it's like they're like –
Starting point is 00:47:08 and that's – I mean I think public – I think education should be free. I think it should be – you should be able to go to college for free. I think we should forgive student debt, all that kind of shit. But it is – Ivy Leagues in general, it's like so fucked because they have the money. Well, I think it would be wise if we gave it available to citizens. Like what would be the harm in that? They wouldn't work hard to get it because it doesn't cost anything. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Some people. No, that's ridiculous. But people need to figure out how it's not about that. Like just because it's coming to you for free, like this is a unique opportunity. For sure. You could actually learn something. You can get ahead in this life. Yeah. think that's true i think yeah college should be free i think like or you shouldn't have to go to college you should be able to go to like you know
Starting point is 00:47:52 trade schools all that kind of shit well i think you can learn online too i mean you there's a lot of universities they don't offer degrees but they offer like a lot of their courses online but that's also another problem with like ivy leaves and shit It's like rich people just kind of like all their kids go. They can all afford to. I know so many dumbasses from Ivy Leagues, but it's like this fake prestige that it's just like, no, my family just had enough money to go. And I've had friends. I grew up in Baltimore and I've had friends who went to like Harvard and shit and they were like, it fucking sucked. Like if you're a poor kid going to Harvard, it's like you feel out of place.
Starting point is 00:48:28 You know, everyone, it's all, you know, people, and it's just like a brutal experience. And now, you know, he does fine. He's smart as shit. He's a doctor. He was a teacher for a while. He's just like a good person. But, yeah, I mean, I just think Ivy Leagues in general are fucking, the endowments are crazy. And it is like, I think we are just fucking a generation of kids, especially when you make them feel like they have to go to
Starting point is 00:48:49 school. Well, not only that, you expose them to primarily to one ideology and that ideology is the most aggressive, which is like woke politics. I don't know. So kids get that, talk to kids that are in college, they get it crammed down their throat. I mean, I was, when I was in college. How long ago was that? You got me, 15 years ago. Different world, brother get it crammed down their throat. I mean, when I was in college. How long ago was that? You got me, 15 years ago.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Different world, brother. Different world from five years ago. Different world. We used to see some of it and people would be like, why are you complaining about this? You're not in college. I'd be like, because that's going to spill out. That kind of crazy thinking, you just abandon that when you get your degree. Oh, I was talking crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I got off the cults. No, you're going to keep that and transfer it to whatever tech job you get. crazy yeah i got off the cults no you're gonna keep that and transfer it to whatever tech job you get tech job i don't think the problem with tech places for me is like how like every tech thing every tech idea is just like hey why don't we just not pay anyone like every every single like uber's like hey you know how taxi cabs exist what if like the driver can't go to the doctor it's like like every tech idea is just like a thing that exists but we fucking it's not a living wage anymore and some cocksucker with who can code gets rich and the taxi driver and the guy who goes and gets the grocery
Starting point is 00:49:53 they don't get any fucking money that's my issue that's my issue with tech well that's one kind of tech yeah but there's all i'm reading this book now that's a fucking terrifying book um i'm reading i'm not reading it i'm listening to it i should say that's a fucking terrifying book. I'm not reading it. I'm listening to it, I should say. That's all right, man. We should be honest on audio. Come on. But it's called The Kill Chain. That's an exquisite sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Whoops. And it's all about technology and how far behind America is in terms of military technology and our implementation of the current technology that we have available, like the highest levels like NVIDIA chips and what that's actually been used in the actual military equipment and machines, it's so beyond or behind the times. The shit that's available that's at the top of the food chain. That's what's so fucking annoying is like where the fuck are – that's what I can't stand about the way America's set up is like all the money is –
Starting point is 00:50:44 the fucking – the army gets the money. So how the fuck are we behind? This is talking about how that those funds, those defense funds is a lot of what funded Silicon Valley. That it all started there, like working on military intelligence and projects. And they dump tons and tons of money into this stuff. They dump tons and tons of money into this stuff. And then if you look at what's available now in terms of the top fighter jets and the top – all the different equipment that they use that uses computers. They're comparing computing power with what's available. Yeah, and China has been copying everything we do.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And the thing with Huawei, the reason why they banned Huawei in this country, I believe they had discovered that there's a third-party access through routers. And they'd always suspected something like that, which means that they could just steal your intellectual property. So you're over here, and you got a billion-dollar grant from the government to make some artificial intelligence chip, and China's just scooping out your data. I'm ready, dude. And banging it out before you can.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Get me a jacked Chinese woman. I'll live under her. Whatever you want. I'm fucking in there. I'm cooking all day for her. I'm ready to be the house husband. All right. And talk about the magnificence of China.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I can't wait. I'll be a spy. Listen, if you guys need a spy, if there's any hot Chinese Beijing bitches with big ass titties and big ass lats, I'm in. Are you willing to get makeup so you look need a spy, if there's any hot Chinese Beijing bitches with big-ass titties and big-ass lats, I'm in. Are you willing to get makeup so you look Chinese? Yeah, dude. I'll do whatever they want. Prosthetics?
Starting point is 00:52:10 Whatever they want. Prosthetics? I'll wear a little kimono. I'll be like Stevie from Eastbound and Down. Do you remember that scene? Do you ever watch Eastbound and Down? I don't know, dude. Dude, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I know it's so good. Dude, it's truly the funniest show of all time. Danny McBride's hilarious. Rough House is fucking hilarious. Danny McBride is a know, dude. Dude, it's so good. I know it's so good. Dude, it's truly the funniest show of all time. Danny McBride's hilarious. Rough House is fucking hilarious. Danny McBride is a motherfucker, dude. He's funny in everything he does. He's the fucking man. He's the man.
Starting point is 00:52:31 But yeah, there's a scene where truly this, I don't know, that show is the last. They slid under just in time, but they dress him up in a little kimono, and it's like insanely racist, but it's fucking hysterical. But yeah, I'll wear, I'll do whatever they want for me. Will you get your feet bound? I have fucking big feet on. I have big, wide Fred Flintstone feet. You might have to bind them. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:52 How big is their technology? Yeah, there we go. It's you, brother. You're in. That's me. Just a Chinese power lifter lady. Yeah, I show up dressed like that. They're like, what the fuck are you doing?
Starting point is 00:53:03 And I'm like, I'm so sorry. I'll take it off. She speaks perfect English. Why aren't your feet bound? I'm sorry. I'll do whatever the Chinese Empire asks of me. Bro, this book is terrifying
Starting point is 00:53:17 because it just talks about how disjointed the American military is and how these systems aren't communicating with each other well. And it's like, whew. Yeah. And about how even, whew. Yeah. And about how even today, like when the pilots are sharing coordinates with like different
Starting point is 00:53:31 machines and different equipment, they have to like, a lot of it do it like over communication. They can't share it straight through. Interesting. I don't want to fuck it up because I'm obviously not technically aware of how they do everything but the way this guy's explaining it is terrifying well there is if you think about anything there's so much to be scared of yeah it's paralyzing I'm definitely in the like who get I'm in a little like she like kind of like opti not optimistic like I think shit's going bad but I'm gonna have a good time while it's happening
Starting point is 00:54:03 that's kind of my view. It's like, this is probably the last generation with air conditioning, so I'm going to crank it. You know what I mean? You think that's it? I'm going to have, like, I'm just, I'm ready to go. We're going back to caveman days. And I would die quick. Do you think they'll do it to us, we'll do it to each other, or something will hit us?
Starting point is 00:54:20 Ooh, hit us would be nice. Galvanize us. Yeah. You know, maybe we can. Something like a big-ass asteroid slams into Greenland and turns everything into fucking nuclear winter for a couple of years. That would be almost nicer where it's like we're just going through our day. We're just fucking having a, you know, getting jacked.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Where are you getting food? Huh? Afterwards? I'm dead. No, I'm dead. You misunderstand me. I mean, let's die. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Let's go down like the fucking dinosaurs. You've probably got a bunker. You're good. No. Okay, I'm gone. If the asteroid comes, I want it to hit me in the face. That's what I'm saying, dude. I'm climbing a mountain to make sure.
Starting point is 00:54:55 If you survive that, I mean, I'm sure you'd want to survive if you were alive. That's the human instinct. But if you go back to that movie, The movie the road yeah if shit gets to like that point no why killing myself i don't want to live like that i like living like this i'm spoiled i'm spoiled i live in a world where people are nice to each other they wave when you let them into traffic yeah yeah i like that if i don't get the wave i'm pissed bro i don't want to live like the northman yeah you see that that uh that movie yeah viking movie it was sick hardcore that was fucking awesome that was a great fucking movie i can't believe that movie? Yeah. The Viking movie? It was sick. Hardcore.
Starting point is 00:55:26 That was fucking awesome. That was a great fucking movie. I can't believe that movie didn't get as much love as it deserves. Yeah, that guy's great. Because you know what they didn't do? They didn't modernize it at all. Yeah. There was zero, there was no modern heroes, no modern- Fully.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Yeah. Well, he does a great job. He also, that director did The Witch, and he did The Lighthouse, and he loves making sure everything is period. I love The Witch, too. That was a fucking sick movie. The Witch was sick. And The Lighthouse is pretty bizarre, too.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah. No, he's a fucking sick director. His name is escaping me, but yeah, I love that shit. What's his name? Robert Eggers. Robert Eggers. He fucking rules. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah, he rules. He did a fucking fantastic job with the Northmen. It was like perfect amount of like fantasy and reality and the brutal reality of like the way they fought. There was nothing unrealistic about it. In the beginning when they're just fucking up like women and children. You're like, yeah, this is what the Vikings were like. That's what they did. Yeah. And that's what a lot of fucking people did throughout human history dude the mongols did it it's crazy because i've been i'm on a big history kick and i'm reading
Starting point is 00:56:33 about like i was just i was just you know i was like i'm on the trojan war tip a little bit on some greeks i'm reconnecting with my roots a little bit but i also got some badass roots brother yeah ancient greece the greeks yeah come on son you come from one of the most important a little bit, but I also just- You got some badass roots, brother. Yeah, ancient Greece fucking rules. The Greeks? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, son. You come from one of the most important histories in all of the human race. No, it's the best, yeah. They did some wild shit in your country.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Truly. No, it's fucking awesome. But you think about, and I'm also fascinated by medieval times, and you just think about like, all the history that we learn is about like, oh, this king fucked this king up, and this, but it's like,
Starting point is 00:57:09 and they always just kind of gloss over like, you know the army raided the countryside And it's like imagine being the fucking assholes on the countryside outside of the city you're outside Athens You're outside of Troy whatever you just get fucked like every ten years when some asshole some rich asshole Some guy with water running water he gets to fuck decides He wants to fuck up your town He just comes through steals your shit takes your fucking wife kills your son And you just have to like now you fucking get turnips for him or he kills you too It's just like a like a I think about how fucked up it would have been to just be a peasant And you call a slay between this shit
Starting point is 00:57:42 Yeah It's like you're just a piece of property that gets like, who you have to pay taxes to changes every 20 years, and every 20 years they come in and just fuck, you know, just fuck, rape everyone, take all your gold. Well, that was what people liked about Game of Thrones too. Like Game of Thrones, they were behaving like we would expect them to behave if they lived in this dimension.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Yeah. Oh, fully. It was brutal and all that kind of shit. Horrible. There was no heroes. There was no unrealistic modern Marvel movie heroes. Yeah. Everyone was flawed and full of chaos.
Starting point is 00:58:15 It was just all horrible. That's what I love about Greek mythology. It's just like you look at their gods and you know what a fucked up society it was. Zeus is the fucking –'s god right yeah and god he's just this just tells you what greek people are like because god is a guy who cheats on his wife constantly like that's his whole big thing zeus zeus and harrah are like a fucking sitcom where it's like oh honey like that kind of he's just like oh you don't don't get mad at me and he just sneaks out and like takes the form of a swan and fucks a woman. And then like comes back.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And she's like, did you, were you getting pussed? And he's like, no. You know, it's just like, it's, that was our God. Like the main God, he couldn't stop getting side pussy. It's like, that's what our society, that's what our ancient society was built on. He would like become a bull and just see a cow that looked hot. He wouldn't even just fuck people. He would fuck hot animals.
Starting point is 00:59:05 And that's like the cornerstone of Greek mythology. Wow. Like all the heroes are like half the heroes are people that Zeus just fucked. Where do you think those stories came from? Where do you think the stories, you know, obviously they were told for so long before anybody wrote them down. For sure. Where do you think they came from? Obviously they were told for so long before anybody wrote them down.
Starting point is 00:59:23 For sure. Where do you think they came from? I think, I mean, just like everything else, it's like you, it's people trying to make sense of a crazy and chaotic world. You know what I mean? And it's just like, people are just like, that's, I think they just lived in a society
Starting point is 00:59:39 where that's what their rulers were like. So that's what Zeus was going to be like. That's what makes people join cults. That's what makes people woke. That's what makes people everything like. So that's what Zeus was going to be like. That's what makes people join cults. That's what makes people woke. That's what makes people everything. You want to make sense. You want to put order to things. And I will say, I like Greek mythology because it's really like, it's just interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Yeah. Oh, it's so fascinating. And how many different fucking gods and shit do they have? How many gods were there? The main ones, there was 12 main gods of Mount Olympus. But it was like, there's demigods and like half, you know, and like lesser gods and there's like hundreds. And it's like, it's this thing of like, that's what I really like is that Greek mythology, it's like, you know, monotheism, it's pretty straightforward. It's kind of boring.
Starting point is 01:00:19 You know what I mean? It's like there's one God. Sometimes, you know, there's three of, you know what I mean? The Holy Spirit, the Jesus, all that kind of shit. like there's one god sometimes you know there's three of you know what i mean the holy spirit the jesus all that kind of shit but it's like polytheism is fucking sick because it's like there's just a god of fucking getting fucked up it's just a god that's like dionysus he was the god of having a good ass time that guy fucking rules dude that was my guy wow there's yeah there's like a hunter god athena is is this interesting She's the goddess of wisdom
Starting point is 01:00:45 Who's the hunter god? Fuck what the fuck I'm blanking on her It's a woman though But there's like Ares obviously Ares the god of war They had a lot of badass female gods
Starting point is 01:00:59 Yeah Athena Artemis that's right Artemis The goddess of wild animals The hunt and vegetation And of chastity and childbirth. She was identified by the Romans with Diana. Artemis was the daughter of Zeus and Leto and the twin sister of Apollo.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Yeah, that's the other thing. Zeus fucked like every goddess and just made other goddesses and like Athena just came out of his head so that's the interesting thing it's like she was all his the wisdom of God was just like came out of his head and now it's just all into one lady it's so fascinating have you ever heard of uh Brian Murrow Rescu in the book called the immortality key no it's an amazing book and this guy dedicated like more than a decade of his life to studying ancient Greece and the use of psychedelics in wine Oh hell yeah, and they studied they've opened up a field of study at Harvard because yeah because this guy's work
Starting point is 01:01:55 He's a legitimate scholar and dedicated his time to this. Yeah, and he's like a straight-edge guy He's not he doesn't do drugs. Yeah, and he just guys like, dude, what if they were getting fucked up, man? I bet, man. That's me. That's the fucking source of it all, bro. No, this guy's like a legit guy. Professor Rogan. I mean, fucking what I heard. Eddie Bravo told me. One time I was talking.
Starting point is 01:02:19 But these guys found these ancient wine vessels that contained psychedelic compounds. So they found residue of ergot and a bunch of other stuff. So when they drank wine, they didn't just drink wine. They were tripping balls. They drank wine with like LSD in it basically. Well, I think that's probably – so the guy I was talking about, Dionysus, the god of just getting fucked up.
Starting point is 01:02:41 They would have these like huge festivals and they would just, like they would have huge parties and literally orgies off wine and I'm sure they were drinking. 100%. Because they're coming up with all these satyrs and they're coming up with wood nymphs and like you know, mermaids and all this kind of shit and it's like, was it a mermaid or was some guy drinking mushroom wine and he
Starting point is 01:03:00 fucked a seal? He's like, no, no, she was hot. She was so fucking hot. It was a goddess, seal. He's like, no, no, she was hot. She was so fucking hot. It was a goddess, bro. He just dug a hole in some sand and beat off into it. He was like, yeah. She wasn't much of a kisser. Fucking slug away.
Starting point is 01:03:16 The head wasn't that great. But the pussy. They're like, sick, dude. That's awesome. What animal has a human being not tried to fuck? There is not. I bet dudes have fucked crocodiles. Crocodile where?
Starting point is 01:03:30 100% there's a guy who fucked a crocodile. Underneath? Just to show you he could do it. Maybe that's true. One guy just lassoed a crocodile. It doesn't seem very appealing. Held him down, got hard, tied it off with a rope. His dick like he's doing heroin?
Starting point is 01:03:43 Yes. Just to keep it hard? Just to keep it hard? Just to keep it hard. Made a homemade cock ring out of fucking animal skins, cinched it down, and fucked that crocodile. And became the chief of his village. Yeah. You want to show people you're the boss. Like, some tribes, they have to kill a lion to show that they've become a man. It's like part of a coming-of-age ritual.
Starting point is 01:04:04 They've got to kill a lion with a fucking spear. Dude. Those guys would fuck a man. It's like part of a coming of age ritual. They've got to kill a lion with a fucking spear. Dude. Those guys would fuck a crocodile. Just to show you an ostrich. You've got to catch an ostrich and then you've got to fuck it. Fuck an ostrich pussy? It's not even a pussy. They've got a cloaca.
Starting point is 01:04:17 As I was going to say, I feel like it's all too spiny. It's shit and eggs. It's everything in there. I'm good, dude. You've got to do it. You got to show everybody who the boss is. One time in college, we had a friend who we tried to convince him to fuck a horse. He was the horniest guy I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 01:04:34 He was insane, dude. I won't put him on blast. I won't give any more details. But if you went to UMBC and you went with me, you know who we're talking about here. And he would just literally like, he had like an old lady who was his neighbor and she just came over to like ask borrow a cup of sugar and he was just he was like 17 and he was talking about how he would beat off thinking about fucking this old lady he was a fucking lunatic and we were like we were like yo dude would you we're like would you fuck an animal and he was like nah nah nah and then he was like
Starting point is 01:05:01 what kind of animal and then we were just we were clearly just fucking around and then we were like we're like what about and then one of our friends lived on a farm and he was like we have a horse in my farm and the guy was like i'm not fucking a horse and then a minute later he's like what does a horse pussy look like so then we're just we're in the fucking dorms googling horse pussy on google image oh my god and honestly we found a pretty nice pic and he was like, hmm, okay. And then he was like, I don't think so. We were like, what if
Starting point is 01:05:30 we give you a hundred bucks? He's like, nah, nah. We were like, what about four hundred dollars? And he was like, alright, I'll do it. And then the guy whose horse it was was like, wait, you're gonna, you wanna fuck the horse? He was like, no. It wasn't even the guy who was gonna fuck the horse that backed out. It was the guy who owned the horse. Yeah. You don't want that to happen to your horse.
Starting point is 01:05:45 So this is 2000. The horse will never trust you again. Well, she was on her way out, apparently. It was an old horse. Did you ever see Zoo, the documentary Zoo? No. Zoo is about this community of people that met online, and they found that there's a few states where it's legal to fuck animals, and one of them was Washington State.
Starting point is 01:06:01 And they all got together, and they met at this place where there's hundreds of hours of footage of them getting fucked by horses. No! Yes. And one guy died. Oh, is that Mr. Hands? Mr. Hands. Of course, the legend. Yeah, so that guy died. You've seen the video, right? R.I.P. Mr. Hands, of course. It's one of the greatest videos in the history
Starting point is 01:06:19 of the internet. Me and Brian Redband were going back and forth and he was sending me horrible things. Yeah. And then he sends me this one that says i win yeah and it's mr hands i was like this is the craziest thing i've ever seen in my life dude actually i think that's how the horse conversation started because this is i saw that video in college with this group of guys it was probably like well i wouldn't get fucked by horse obviously but would you fuck a horse's pussy and i think that's maybe how we got there. Mr. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:06:46 It's a crazy documentary because it's sort of a docudrama, right? Like they kind of recreate stuff. I see. Just for entertainment. It's enough when they do interviews and stuff, and it's enough for you to get a sense of like what was going haywire with these humans that they decided that this was their thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People can find a thing.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Absolutely. I'm into collecting stamps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, they find a thing. It'm into collecting stamps. They find a thing. It happens to be a fucking sloth pussy. Some people just want to get fucked by horses. That's a thing. Somebody just wants to suck a koala's
Starting point is 01:07:14 dick. That's crazy. There's people like that out there. For whatever reason, they want to fuck animals. Yeah. That is the closest thing we have to a Greekreek slur is like you know goat fucker or sheep fucker right or something like that well there had to be a lot of that going on with those herders you're out there with no women come on fucking months taking care of these sheep come on
Starting point is 01:07:36 yeah you're gonna give it a whirl fuck you're gonna give it a whirl they're fluffy they're cute it seems the right height too everything's lining up. Like, God meant this for me. Yeah, Zeus did it. Yeah. Zeus can fuck sheep. Why not me? Why not me, bro? It's in the Bible.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Look at those fatties. Yeah, listen. It doesn't look that bad. I guarantee. No ifs, ands, or buts. Guys that fuck sheep. Right?
Starting point is 01:08:02 That's 100%. Oh, dude. They're fucking sheep right now right now so what about a monkey that's a harder too unpredictable bit yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he gets it just picture that thing go on you biting your dick like oh my god a monkey would fuck you up. That's the thing. Too unpredictable.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Yeah, too unpredictable. What about a coyote? Anybody ever fuck a coyote? Maybe one guy. One hard-ass fucking Texas Ranger back in the day on a bet. It would need to be two generations of domestication. No, you lasso them. You lasso them again?
Starting point is 01:08:41 You and the lasso. The crocodile and the fucking coyote. They may have lassoed for a reason. Yeah, the fucking coyotes. A lot of fucking animals. You got to hold on to them. Lasso them again? Lasso them. The crocodile and the fucking coyote. They made up lasso for a reason. The fucking coyotes. A lot of fucking animals. You got to hold on to them. I guess you're right. Yeah, I never thought of it.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Why they invented the lasso? Probably. Ride on one animal and catch the other one with it. 100%. Right? And then whether or not you're doing it to fuck it, I think that's more like a bet. That's up to you. That's like a bet or to prove a point.
Starting point is 01:09:04 I don't think that's like why they invented the lasso. Sure. But I do think it to fuck it. I think that's more like a bet. That's up to you. That's like a bet or to prove a point. I don't think that's like why they invented the lasso. Sure. But I do think it was probably used. It was used, for sure. In the fucking of all animals in all history, what percentage of them involved lassos? More than 10. I would say more. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Because you got to think, when the lasso was invented, you could buy some pussy at the saloon. Well, let's find out when the lasso was invented. This is good. We got to get to the bottom of this. Let's take a guess. And then we just saw those delicious sheep pussies. No lasso needed for those.
Starting point is 01:09:33 I think there's a lot. They probably push back. You just get them up against a cliff. Isn't that the idea? They would just back them to a cliff. Hey, hey. While you're there. You teach your sheep to throw it back.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Yeah, exactly. Hey, hey. While you're there. You teach your sheep to throw it back. Yeah, exactly. Give them treats. There's probably a guy with that question, dude. You're going to work for this fucking sugar cube. For sure. Sugar cube. Oh, it's perfect. What's up?
Starting point is 01:10:01 You got a guess? Lasso. I'm going to say 1500s. Lasso. What do you think? That's probably like way earlier than that because they wrote horses before that. Well, that's a problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:09 So let me say- What are we thinking here? 1100s. I'm going to say 1100s. Okay, yeah. What do you say? That makes sense. The step, the Turkic people.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Right. It was probably before that. I'll say 1200. Two answers to this. At 1280 BC, there's images of a pharaoh holding a lasso, holding onto a bull. But the Huns used lasso. The Huns, baby. Lasso's to ensnare opponents in hand-to-hand battle.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Oh, that makes sense. In around 370 AD. Wow. They used it for people first. Jesus. They probably raped them. They probably did everything. But those people. They probably raped them. Yeah. They probably did everything. But those people must have been on horses.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Yeah. So if they were on horses, how'd they get the horse? The person using it was on a horse probably and stopped them from running away. Right. Right, but I'm saying how'd they get the horse in the first place? Oh. I think that's probably lassoes. Because horses were wild.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Thinking about it now, a lasso's probably been invented for like, you know, ancient times. But they probably had like five or six of them and they all like, people held on until they could slow the horse down because they didn't have a horse to ride the lasso. Right, right, right, right. So going back to our original question though. Is it really an original question? I think it was like, how many animals have people fucked? That was the original question. The lasso.
Starting point is 01:11:25 I think a lasso hasn't been used. I think most of it, I think most animal fucking is a matter of convenience. I think most animal fucking is also after murder. Like, we already killed it. Now it's definitely not going to push back. You can't eat the asshole. Yeah, it's definitely not going to kick me. You think someone cleaned it all out, took the stakes off, and just left the ass?
Starting point is 01:11:46 Using like a little proto-pocket. If you're trying to fuck a deer and it kicked you, you could get ruined for the rest of your life. Great point. You got to be careful back then. There's no doctors. There's no doctors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like if you were trying to fuck an animal, you were taking a big risk.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Which respect, thinking of it now, respect to the guys in antiquity that were fucking animals. Yeah. That's a fucking- Because if you got hurt. If you just got scratched. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could get some horrible staph infection. Bacteria.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Forget about it. So many fucking people die. Dustin Poirier, he's in the hospital right now from a staph infection. Jesus Christ. Him and Connor are going back and forth about it on Instagram. That's fucking hilarious. Connor got mad because I said that his piss looked like it could melt a USADA cup, and he said it looks like my piss could melt a USADA cup, too.
Starting point is 01:12:29 And he's correct. Yeah, you're not fighting. Conor, I'm not hating that. You look great. Yeah. And by the way, he does have a legitimate reason for doing whatever the fuck he's doing, even if he's doing nothing. He broke his leg.
Starting point is 01:12:40 It's a different thing. Like, just to try to heal. I had talked to this guy, Derek, from More Plates, More Dates. We were discussing what's involved in trying to heal a broken thing like just to try to he I had talked to this guy Derek from more plates more dates. We were just discussing like what's involved in trying to heal Yeah, a broken bone like that he's like it is really hard and it's very hard for people to come back because That bone is always has the potential to be weaker. You've got screws in it now on a plate Like it doesn't the only way it makes it better apparently is if they put a rod through the entire bone
Starting point is 01:13:04 Then it'll be actually be stronger. But that could compromise your movement. And also, it takes fucking forever to heal. Yeah. So I get it, Connor. I get it. Yeah, I mean, the thing is, there were- That's Dustin's foot.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Oh, what the fuck? Staph infection. God damn, dude. Isn't that crazy? And apparently, he said it's actually looking worse. Even though they have him on all these antibiotics it's not responding to it I'd rather look at the horse's pussy again
Starting point is 01:13:31 than that that's brutal staph infections scare the shit out of me take care of your skin kids damn get yourself some defense soap if you're a grappler in particular
Starting point is 01:13:39 if you do MMA or anything like that please get yourself some defense soap it's a natural antibiotic soap it's probiotic. It's good for the healthy bacteria in your skin, but it kills things like staph and stuff that's going to get you sick. They have a whole bunch of products, but they have soaps, and it's great soap. It's got tea tree oil and eucalyptus oil.
Starting point is 01:14:00 It's all natural. It doesn't fuck up your natural skin flora. But when I learned about that stuff, I had gotten staph twice. Really? Holy fuck. It's staph. It doesn't fuck up your natural skin flora, but when I learned about that stuff I'd got I got staffed twice really holy stuff scary. I guess cuz like all the grappling yeah You get scraped. Thank God to my friend Tate. He's the one who pointed it out I was wearing shorts, and he saw my calf and we were at the airport and he goes what's going on your calf I don't look like little zits all over the place. I go nothing fuck. What is it? He was do I think I caught it early? Right away. Good damn. Ari got staff.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Fuck. Just having sex? Yes. He got it on his penis? He got it in a parking lot. No, he had it on his knee. Ari was doing jujitsu for a while. Wow.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Hilarious. He got it on his knee, and we were playing pool, and he was limping around. I go, why are you limping? Playing pool. And he goes, oh, I got a fucking spider bite. I go, what? I go, let me see it. And he pulls his pants up. I go, dude are you limping? He goes, oh, I got a fucking spider bite. I go, what? I go, let me see it. He pulls his pants up.
Starting point is 01:14:47 I go, dude. I go, I unscrewed my cue. I go, we got to go to the hospital right now. Holy fuck. He goes, are you serious? I go, right now we got to go to the hospital. I go, that's a staph infection. And it's bad.
Starting point is 01:14:56 God damn. It's bad. And so he immediately had to get on antibiotics. Jesus Christ. If he didn't know and he let it go, it would have got way worse. And then you can get sepsis, which is like your blood can get poisoned dangerous shit man God damn, so imagine those fucking people fucking animals One little ancient fucking sheep hoof bacteria right if they beat you oh you're done
Starting point is 01:15:20 You're done. Whatever fuck they got their mouth Is in your bloodstream now Yeah Bro Salute Salute to my ancient Greek ancestors And maybe modern Greek Anything you get bit by I get the worst thing to get bit by Is the Komodo dragon right
Starting point is 01:15:35 Oh yeah Cause they have like that nasty Fucking alien saliva That poisons you Yeah yeah yeah Got toxins in it Paralyzes you and poisons you Botulism
Starting point is 01:15:43 It's got They have funk in their mouth and they have a venom. It's like they're just toxic. And then they'll just eat you slowly. They'll swallow you whole. You ever see them swallow a deer whole? God damn. Dude, get Komodo Dragon.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Oh, better yet. Komodo Dragon swallows baboon whole. Oh, hell yeah. This one's fucked up. This is awesome. This thing is chucking back. This thing has got its legs all fucked up, and it's chucking them back whole. Let's watch it.
Starting point is 01:16:11 I love it. They're so scary, man. This is great. You go on YMH, and I watch gay porn, and now I go here, and I watch a baboon get swallowed whole. Bro, swallowed whole. The thing is, there's a bunch of them where they're swallowing deer too.
Starting point is 01:16:27 And the deer or the antelope, whatever the fuck it is, is like three quarters the size of their body. Yeah, dude. It's fucking insane. It's fucking wild, dude. It's a fucking monster. It's a legitimate modern day monster. Look at this motherfucker. Oh no! He's got this monkey. He's still fucking moving!
Starting point is 01:16:44 Oh Jesus Christ. Oh no! Oh He's got this monkey. Oh Jesus Christ, so he's got this monkey by the neck. We don't need the music He's got this poor monkey by the neck. This fucker is moving his jaw. You're fucked bro. Yeah I mean, it's just slowly crushing this monkey's neck and head. Oh somebody left his golf shoes Look at the size of this thing man. Dude that sucks. Look at the size of this thing. No Oh, the other one one trying to steal it. Give me a piece, bro. And they're just tailing it, tearing it apart. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Okay, this is not the same one. Oh, the tail is moving. He's still alive. He's still alive, man. He's just literally getting pulled apart. He's still alive. Jesus Christ, that sucks. I hate that.
Starting point is 01:17:21 They are so scary, dude. Oh, no. Okay, that looks like a baboon. It's cutting back and forth Between different Oh shit look at this That's a baboon That poor baboon And his little red nuts
Starting point is 01:17:28 Oh Jesus Christ They're so scary These fucking things They really are You know what fucks me up though About these videos Like how convenient That you managed to be
Starting point is 01:17:35 Two feet away While this baboon got a hold Did you push that Fucking baboon Towards that thing They definitely did right They definitely did Or they just have a camera
Starting point is 01:17:44 Set up Look set up saliva man oh my god the saliva that comes out of their mouth just all that big ass fall oh they're so gross man that is fucking disgusting yeah oh my god his fucking shoulders all fucked yeah see this guy filming it up close they're put oh fuck dude look at the slime truly disgusting the slime leaking out of his mouth yeah bro. Bro, look at that thing. It's getting in his kayak. Oh, dude, you're so fucked. You are so fucked.
Starting point is 01:18:10 That thing's climbing in the kayak with you? They're only in that little island, right? Yeah. Okay. I think there's a couple of islands. I'll never know. Is there more than one island or just that one? There's a couple islands in that area that have that.
Starting point is 01:18:20 How many different islands have the Komodo dragon on them? I thought they were just in one. Yeah, I think primarily in one. But yeah, they definitely look like, they feel like a monster. They're the biggest, there's a thing called island dwarfism where like elephants,
Starting point is 01:18:33 when they come out of place, they get small. Oh, here it is. Few Indonesian islands of the lesser Sunda group, including Rinjapadar and Flores, and of course the island of Komodo, the largest, 22 miles long. They have not been seen on the island of Padar since the 1970s.
Starting point is 01:18:51 That island of Flores is where those hobbit people live. Oh, really? The little little ones? Yeah, those little tiny people used to live. Are they the ones that killed a missionary or whatever the fuck? No, I don't know. Did they? Is that a story? No, it's the Sentinel Island people. Oh, you're thinking of North Sentinel Island. No, that's in the Indian Ocean.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Oh, okay. That's the people that lived alongside of human beings like 100,000 years ago. Holy shit. And they're these little tiny people that were like three feet tall. Damn. And they had tools and weapons and shit. They were just little hobbits. Holy fuck.
Starting point is 01:19:21 So that's that island dwarfism thing. So in islands, for whatever reason, I guess because there's limited resources, like elephants get smaller, mammals get smaller, deer get smaller, but lizards get bigger. Whoa, that sucks. That sucks. Has to keep the population in check. That fucking sucks, dude. So that's why the island of Komodo has these fucking things.
Starting point is 01:19:43 So the biggest lizards on earth on an island. Goddamn. Fuck that. Get the lizards out of there. Go in there. You get to feel fucking tall. Stranded divers had to fight off Komodo dragons to survive. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:19:56 The divers went missing off Indonesia were forced to beat off deadly Komodo dragons with the lead weights of their diving belts as they were repeatedly attacked. One of the survivors disclosed last night oh do you imagine all you got is the weights on your diving belt you have to whack a Komodo dragon with it what does it say here they spent 10 hours stuck and shark infested oh my god have been swept away and spun around for 10 hours in shark infested waters they reached the beach in a remote island at nightfall, only to find it was inhabited by Komodo dragons, the world's largest and most deadly lizards. Well, at least we'll get a nice night's rest on this island.
Starting point is 01:20:33 This is a great movie. Did all of them live? There was a woman with them? A Swedish woman who was with the group told how she fought off a terrifying reptile three times with her weight belt. Jesus Christ. Used by divers to maintain their buoyancy underwater. The 10-foot carnivorous predator came
Starting point is 01:20:48 within inches of biting her bare feet. It chewed on the lead in the belt before finally retreating as the divers threw rocks at its head. Goddamn, dude. Oh my God. I tried to have a go at my feet. Oh my God. Oh my God. Holy
Starting point is 01:21:04 Jesus Christ, dude. Yeah, I'm fucked if I tell you that. Those things are so scary. There's so many animals on this planet that just don't give a fuck about people and that are ready to eat you. Yeah, I'm a fucking city motherfucker. I'm scared. I like going on a hike, but I don't want to be alone with any kind of fucking scary-ass animal. Have you seen the video of that crocodile that has a human body in its mouth and it's swimming underneath this bridge?
Starting point is 01:21:28 No. It literally brings it up to these people and shows it to them. I'm like, fuck you, motherfuckers. Like, literally. You're next. It's like, I think he's trying to show it to us. Like, the crocodile swims up to where these people are with a person in its mouth. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Because, like, this could be you, bitch. It is wild. Like, these guys are in a boat, and the crocodile, for no reason at all, swims towards them with a human in its mouth. Huge flex on the crocodile part. Huge flex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Huge flex.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Like, I'd like to do this to you. I know you're in the boat. You guys are up. Humanity's up a million to one on animals, but here's one. Hey. I scored a touchdown. Anybody feeling blue? Want to go for a dip?
Starting point is 01:22:04 Yeah, yeah. Want to end it all right now? Look at this. It's like your team is losing, but you's one. I scored a touchdown. Anybody feeling blue? Want to go for a dip? Want to end it all right now? Look at this. It's like your team is losing, but you have a sick dunk. So look, these guys are by this bridge. This is one of two videos that I'm aware of, but in this one, the crocodile is swimming with this human body. Oh my God. Swimming up to the people with this human body.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Look, he's showing it to them. He's looking up at them, and as the bridge goes, he goes. So he's going down the bridge like he's on a fucking runway. He's displaying his trophy to all these people. He's letting them know that he killed a person. It's like, you motherfuckers could be next. Bro, look at that guy. Look at that guy, that poor guy, face down.
Starting point is 01:22:44 That was someone's son. That was someone's baby boy. They didn't eat him? What the fuck? They'll eat him eventually. But look what he's doing. Look at the size of that thing. Damn.
Starting point is 01:22:52 God damn swimming dinosaur. Poor guy. And we're so weird because if crocodiles could kill all of us, if we killed crocodiles and they go, hey, we just kill all the people, then we don't have to worry about people anymore. They'd be like, yeah, let's kill the people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But with us, we're like, you've got to keep them alive.
Starting point is 01:23:06 They're a part of the ecosystem. If I lived there, I would be like the punisher for crocodiles. I would dedicate my every fucking day to killing crocodiles. I would just go out there with a fucking spotlight and a shotgun and just be murking them everywhere I went. Fuck you, fuck you I went fuck you fuck you and fuck you yeah
Starting point is 01:23:27 and then some little bird that they eat just overruns the island but fuck it dude you got the crocs who cares fuck you I'll kill the little birds
Starting point is 01:23:36 yeah take some photos of them stuff a few dead ones and let's end this experiment this fucking blows why do we keep things around that'll kill us? I mean, the Komodos, truly, they can go. Yeah, they can suck my dick. I don't fuck with those guys at all.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Get the fuck out of here, you slime-mouthed monsters swallowing baboons whole. Yeah. Show them a video of it swallowing a deer whole. Goddamn. Because this is what you got to see. You got to see how they can just chuck back. No, I truly don't fuck with those things. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:10 I mean, it's so big. You watch how big this thing is that it swallows. It doesn't even make sense. Dude, yeah, it's fucked up. No. No, this poor fucking guy. Oh, no. No.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Does it swallow it? No. They're eating this deer alive. That's fucking atrocious. This is awful. This is awful. Look at its cute little fucking eyes. Google Komodo. Oh, it's screaming.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Oh, Jesus, Jamie. What are you trying to do to me? Google Komodo dragon swallows deer whole. Oh, my fucking God, dude. Well, people who like that with bears, I mean, bears are not much different. They're less likely to kill you, but when they do, it's just like that. Yeah. Horrific.
Starting point is 01:24:51 So here it is. Oh no. It's going to be a small one. Okay, so it's got this deer. It's still whole. Oh my God. See, that thing's already dead. It's like a snake with a mouse.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Yeah. Look how it does it, though. It's even quicker than a snake, though, because it just clamps it down, throws it back. How disgusting the fucking stomach of that motherfucker is. Look at the size of that thing. I mean, it ate something that was probably a third of the size of its body. Yeah. And it's walking around right now with the hooves sticking out the front of his mouth
Starting point is 01:25:19 because he can't quite swallow it all down. Zero gag reflex. It could eat up to 80% of its body size? Jesus Christ! 80% of its body size. Look at it. It doesn't even look fat. Nah, dude, that's a lean guy. It just ate a whole deer. Fuck it. And he's walking away.
Starting point is 01:25:36 But he's got a deer in his gut and now he's looking to eat more. Dude, what a creep. Look at that fucking creep. I fucking hate that thing. It's so scary that that lives alongside of us in 2022. We're just out here. Give it a little island. We only think of what we see.
Starting point is 01:25:52 We really do. We see birds and squirrels and shit. I like. I don't need to know more. I like being dumb as shit and having a good time. Let me see my little squirrels. Let me see some dude. You say you do, but you know too much. I know. You know too much for that to be accurate. I'm getting dumber every day.
Starting point is 01:26:08 I've spent the last 12 years of my life. I was kind of smart, and then I've been doing stand-up for 14 years. It's all dick jokes. It's all fucking, that's all I know now. Yeah, but that's smart. It's hard to do. Smart people can't do it. A lot of smart people that can't figure out how to do comedy.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Sure, it's a skill. Definitely it's a skill, but it's a very special skill. For a very specific type of fucked up personality. Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like most janitors are more useful to the world than me. You know what I mean? Not true, not true. You're a funny motherfucker. You provide people with a good feeling.
Starting point is 01:26:38 That's super valuable. The good feeling is something for sure. It's fucking everything, man. Going to a nightclub, just, I mean, that, I've done a lot of shit, a lot of fun stuff, but going to a nightclub and just making 250 people have a good time is one of the best things on earth. It is the best. I mean, that's been the fucking, I mean, this tour has been really nice.
Starting point is 01:26:57 I mean, I got really lucky. I put my special out and like a lot more people started coming out, which was fucking awesome. You do the YouTube route. YouTube route, live at the Lodge Room. Go watch it everybody, live at the Lodge Room. It went, it did really great. I mean, I saw Sam did it, Shane did it. Ari's now 4.7
Starting point is 01:27:14 million. He's closing it on five. He says when he hits six, Kanye's going to apologize. I'm so embarrassed. We were joking around back and forth in text and I didn't even get the reference I was saying dude
Starting point is 01:27:28 I think your special is going to hit 8 million and he goes no I think it'll stop at 6 and I didn't even think he's saying the holocaust I was like no you're selling yourself short
Starting point is 01:27:37 idiot I'm such a fucking moron I was thinking like a supportive friend and not like a comedian but I'm so pumped for him no it's awesome it's really good man fucking moron. I was thinking like a supportive friend. Come on, dude. And not like a comedian. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm so pumped for him. No, it's awesome.
Starting point is 01:27:48 It's really good, man. Yeah. Ari Shafir Jew, available now on YouTube. And so it's been really great. And the tour has been really fun. As much as the road can be hard, you're right. The actual onstage is the best. It's the best.
Starting point is 01:28:00 It's the best feeling in the world. It's the best. And arenas are great. Theaters are great. Everything's great. It's all great. And comedy clubs are just as great comedy club I mean if I only did a 200 seat room for the rest of my life It's the fucking best job on earth. Yeah, it really is the best thing to do I'm really excited cuz I'm doing I'm trying theaters next year and it's going well
Starting point is 01:28:18 We're so the fat rascal tour go fucking buy your tickets. I'm all over the place But I have a have have vermont comedy club coming up this week this next weekend i heard that's a great spot great spot dude like and it's like i'm i'm happy because we booked it before my shit blew up so it's like i would have probably played a bigger room but i'm like part of me is like dude it'll be fun i love a little room i opened for bobby there i have great memories there i hooked up with a girl outside there i tried it was fucking i have I ate dumplings there. It was a great little fucking weekend.
Starting point is 01:28:47 I can't wait to go back. Yeah. Comedy clubs like that are great. Especially when there's no other comedy clubs around. So they're like really comedy fans. They really appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:28:58 No, it'll be super fun. Burlington's a fun little town too. I love Burlington. So it's cold as fuck. That's what keeps people from moving there. Yeah, for sure. Because in the wintertime, it gets rough. Oh, I can imagine.
Starting point is 01:29:08 It gets rough. Vermont gets rough. I'm hoping it's not. I hope there's no fucking snowstorm. It's just kind of cute and cold. Yeah, but the thing is, people look out for each other when it gets rough. Yeah. It's a different kind of people.
Starting point is 01:29:19 If your car gets stranded in Maine, people look out for you. I get that. They'll come help you, get you over the side of the road, give you a ride somewhere. Right. Like, they help people. Whenever a car's broken down on the highway in the snow in the Northeast, you'll see other cars pull over. For sure.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Some guy in a four-wheel drive will pull over. You guys okay? Yeah. They don't do shit like that in LA. No. Fuck no. They're like, oh, hopefully that guy's up for the same audition and he's not going to make it.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Yes. Exactly. They'll cut your brake lines. Exactly. Between you and him for a Geico commercial. They'll wait for you to get a tow truck and they'll steal your catalytic converter.
Starting point is 01:29:52 It's just too many people. When you have a few people and then they have to conquer the winter together, you gotta help the old lady shove herself out of the driveway. It's cute. No, I do. I fuck with Burlington big time. I love it up there.
Starting point is 01:30:06 I haven't been there in fucking years, but I used to do gigs there all the time back in the early days of comedy. For sure, when you're going a few hours from your city. Yeah, we used to do those. I used to do Bangor, Maine a lot. That was a lot of fun. That's where Stephen King lived. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:20 You could go by his house. Fuck yeah. We're standing outside of Stephen King's house. He's like, I get it. This is my house. But it's so obviously his house. We're standing outside of Stephen King's house. He's like, I get it. This is my house. But it's like, it's so obviously his house. There's like bats and shit in the wrought iron metal around the house. He's not hiding it at all.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Leaning into it. And he's in the middle. It's like right there. It's like you could throw a rock and hit his house from the street. Fuck yeah, dude. I'm like, this is, he's a great, this is like. And everyone just gets it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Stephen King lives here. Well, it was also like, it's a point of pride. Like, you got a guy who's like one of the, if not the greatest horror writer of all time. For sure. Look at, that's his house. Yeah. That does look haunted for sure. Bro, he wrote some wild shit in that house.
Starting point is 01:30:57 There were some spirits in that little fucking steeple looking thing. Yeah, he wrote some wild shit in that house. Yeah, I've never, I didn't do too many gigs. I would do, I would do like some Northeast stuff because I used to open for Bobby for years, Bobby Kelly. That's my guy. I love Bobby. No, he's the fucking man. Bobby and I started out together.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Really? Holy shit. I used to work with Bobby when he was on with Al and the Monkees. The fucking weird little improv troupe? Yes. I didn't know that. That's awesome. They opened for me at Dick Daugherty's Comedy Hut.
Starting point is 01:31:20 I didn't know that That's awesome They opened for me That's fucking wild Dick Daugherty's Comedy Hut And it was It was Al would go Al DelBene went up And then Bobby would go up
Starting point is 01:31:30 And then Dane would go up Yeah yeah And they would They would do sketches And then they would all do Like five minutes of stand up And then I would headline Interesting
Starting point is 01:31:37 We did a few gigs like that That's awesome Yeah I love Bobby I've always loved Bobby Oh he's the man But yeah he took me to He took me to Vermont You know Boston a bunch of times.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Took me to that fucking weird Chinese restaurant that used to do shit, the Kowloon. Oh, yeah. The Kowloon's great. I was there when it opened. Yeah, I did a lot of gigs at the Kowloon. And then there's Giggles. You ever do Giggles in Saugus? Never did Giggles.
Starting point is 01:31:58 That's a great club. Never did Giggles. That's a great club. That's my friend Mike Clark's club. That's Lenny Clark's brother. Okay, nice. Yeah. I worked with Lenny Clark the second time my friend Mike Clark's club. That's Lenny Clark's brother. Okay, nice. Yeah. I worked with Lenny Clark the second time I ever got paid.
Starting point is 01:32:08 I opened up for Lenny Clark. It was like the greatest thing ever. He's been on HBO and the Rodney Dangerfield special. The local legends, dude. Yeah. Oh, my God. He was the guy. Those first paid gigs are awesome.
Starting point is 01:32:18 Oh, my God. I remember the first time I ever made money. I grew up in Baltimore. I started doing comedy. I did this fucking bringer, right? I'm 19, and I bring all my friends and I fucking you know Do pretty good because all your friends are there and some guy sees me and he's like I think you really got something kid, you know some fuck and I'm like, oh really sir
Starting point is 01:32:35 You know, it's just some fucking guy that runs a shitty shitty gig in Southwest, Virginia, right? Yeah, five hours away from Baltimore pays $50. I I spent more money on gas than to do the fucking gig but i'm me i bring my boys i'm so pumped and i'm like he thinks i'm i'm calling the girl i'm dating i'm like i think i'm gonna fucking be famous like i think this is i think it's finally happening and i saw that guy years later and it was you know i kind of i fucking ate my dick i didn't do well. I was fucking horrible. And I saw the guy years later, and he's like, yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:33:12 He was like, fuck, I thought you were going to bring more people. I mean, you brought so many people to the contest. I was crestfallen. I was like, what? You didn't see potential in me? That's not why you booked him. Oh, it was horseshit. That's not why you booked him.
Starting point is 01:33:25 I mean, I was doing jokes like, I mean, I need to lose some weight. I can't even wipe my own ass. Broke bones. Like, just 19-year-old fucking brutal stuff. Brutal stuff. But those gigs where you get a gig out of town, and you're not really qualified to do it, and you're not even at a comedy club. You're at some weird bar.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Those teach you. They're smoking cigarettes indoors at that know at that point um but those teach you about comedy man well not only they teach me about comedy they tell me about life because i didn't even tell you the end of the story is i come back and i drove with my friends right like i brought two friends with me it was like a fun time you know we're like whoa stop got a gig you know my two best friends we stop on the way back we go to an ihop right it's like you know 1 a.m i order uh from in a virginia ihop at 1 a.m i order ribs and they come out and my friends are like you don't want fucking eggs and pancakes i'm like nah i'm kind of feel like ribs they shit comes out it's gray it's just like
Starting point is 01:34:21 a slab boiled ribs just dude microwaved probably and i'm like ah fuck it i'm you know whatever who gives a fuck uh and i eat it and within i'm driving and i'm like oh hey does somebody else want to drive and it's like and they're like okay and then i'm sitting in the and then like five minutes i'm like can you guys pull over uh i just start throwing up everywhere i i ride i'm in fucking the fetal position for two hours back home. They dropped me off at my house in Baltimore. I am just shitting and throwing up at the exact same time. And that's my first ever paid gig.
Starting point is 01:34:52 I was like, I did it, baby. I did come to getting ribs from IHOP at 1 a.m. Nice. It was brutal. Nice. A tough learning experience. That's hilarious. I fucking remember very clearly those gigs.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Those are some of the most important gigs ever when you just go to some weird bar and you have to get everybody's attention. You learn how to like deliver your jokes quicker. Fully. Yeah. You learn how to keep people's attention span. And there were so many of them. You could actually make a living being nobody. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Like back then, you'd make like 50 a set, 100 a set, and you could do five, six, seven sets a week. You'd have money. No, I remember I quit my job because that was starting to happen to me in Baltimore. And what had happened was I just lined up every gig possible in the first three months. And I was like, well, I can make a living. And then I was like, oh no, I just did every gig for the year. So now I'm like back at the...
Starting point is 01:35:42 I worked at a Sherwin-Williams my last year in Baltimore, but that was fun too. Working at a paint store, fucking, but it is true everywhere you go. That's important too. Those shitty jobs. Oh yeah. Shitty jobs are very important as a human being. You need to know that you don't want to do something. A hundred percent. I got my last real gig, I was a paralegal. Um, and I didn't exactly, I didn't really know what the law for, it was just like right before I needed to move to New York and my friend was doing it and this was like right in the middle of the housing crisis and I get there and it's a fucking foreclosure law firm and I'm like I don't want to fucking be a part of this I don't want to take people's homes because the because the housing
Starting point is 01:36:17 crisis so I just decided I was like fuck it I'm just not going to do any work like I get hired in July they train me for August September rolls around. I'm like She's not really gonna do shit. I'm gonna fucking work on comedy. I'm on Facebook Messenger I'm gonna write jokes, you know what I mean? And I'm thinking I'll get like a month two months out of this They don't fire me for fucking eight months And I'm just in there like my boss will walk by and I would hit the fucking Mouse and my login screen would show up like I wasn't even logged into the computer to fake work and I was like I can't I'm just taking two hour lunches I'm pushing it at this point and I'm just like how the fuck is this still happening and
Starting point is 01:36:54 and they fucking call me into the office finally one day they call me in and they're like okay um so we want to talk my boss would be like hey do you want to like do some work you know because everyone loved me because I'm not doing work I'm hanging around like Linda what's up like how's the baby
Starting point is 01:37:11 like I'm the king of the office dude I'm just having a good ass time and everyone loved me and I was doing good for the I think I was I was moving
Starting point is 01:37:18 women's issues forward because I was the shittiest employee and I was the only man I was like the fucking I was the only fucking you know college man. I was like the fucking, I was the only fucking, you know, college educated man. I was clearly the fucking biggest piece of shit employee, you know? I was, I was building the glass ceiling above my head, I feel like. And so they call me in, they're finally like, hey, so we, we were running some
Starting point is 01:37:40 numbers. Apparently they just didn't want to pay unemployment insurance. And so they were just tracking me for months and they had like, you were, you know, they just didn't want to pay unemployment insurance. And so they were just tracking me for months. And they had like, you were, you know, they were just like reading me everything that I had done wrong. And they're like, so you've, and this was like a factory thing where every time you did anything, you had to click off a step is what they called it. So you would, you schedule a hearing, click off a step. You would email a lawyer, click off a step, right? Like, because they wanted to track you. And they're like, so we were looking at your steps the last couple months and people in your department. They usually average about
Starting point is 01:38:09 3,000 steps a month we were looking at you you did about 300 I was like I was like the track your step dude they track everything you do it was fucking crazy And they're like so how do you explain that I was like? You know I got nothing you know what I mean? I don't know what to tell you. What are they using to track your steps? You would just, there's some software where every time you did anything, you would have to check it off to prove that you're a good employee. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:38:33 Oh, track your steps in terms of your motions on the computer. Yeah, no, not on some Amazon. I thought you were saying like walking. No, no, no, not Amazon. I was like, what? We weren't there yet. No, no. It was just like, how hard are you working?
Starting point is 01:38:44 I'm confused. No, no, no, no. I blame the marijuana. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I weren't there yet. No, no. It was just like, how hard are you working? I'm confused. No, no, no, no. I blame the marijuana. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I should have followed that. No, they were just fucking tracking me, and I just wasn't doing shit. They were just like, you should be doing 10 times the amount of work that you're doing. Well, you know what people were doing when they were doing remote work?
Starting point is 01:38:57 They installed an app that moved the cursor around. Good for them. Fuck yeah. Wild. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just wild. Like, what is that app signing up for? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:05 What is that? Oh, for sure. You're getting tracked. That app's sending your fucking passwords to China. A hundred percent. Right now. Yeah. Your Facebook now belongs to Moldovia.
Starting point is 01:39:12 I'm ready for the glorious revolution. It is. I wanted to say one other thing. I forgot. I wanted to start the thing, but we started talking about animal pussy. I have a, it's Christmas time. I brought some cookies. My mom made some fucking cookies.
Starting point is 01:39:27 You want, Jamie, I don't know. You guys want to fucking, you want to try a cookie? You want to try from my girl Lil V, my mom? Yeah, but let's not, I mean, I'll try it if you want me to. I don't like to eat on the air. That's gross for everybody else. You're a much better podcaster than me. I've done it before.
Starting point is 01:39:41 People get annoyed. Crunch, crunch, crunch. But I definitely want to try your mom's cookies and if you want you can try some of Erica's bee pollen fuck yeah dude yeah she left us
Starting point is 01:39:50 some bee pollen with honey in it from her when she was here yesterday with actually her she actually got that from a beehive that rules
Starting point is 01:39:57 my godfather in Greece he's got a little beehive he lives seems so exciting he lives real fucking villager style oh shit dude cause it's like
Starting point is 01:40:04 Greece the fucking like the economy went to shit. So it's just like he literally lives kind of villager shit where it's like him and my godmother moved to the island his family is from, like, historically. He's got a little, he gets honey. His friend has fucking moonshine. His other friend has rabbits. And they literally, like, barter and shit, dude. Wow. It was fucking awesome.
Starting point is 01:40:24 I went to Greece. I visited them, like like four years ago and it was like i'm having i'm getting fucked up off his friend's moonshine we're eating fucking rabbit stew that his fucking friend hunted it was just like they're broke as shit but they're having a good ass time in greece that's nice if you could live like that yeah you can't you know if you as long as you have too many people and the resources don't get overrun you can live like that that. If you grow your own vegetables and you cook your own food and you can hunt and you can maybe have some animals. Yeah. That's a nice way to live, man.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Well, it's a lot of responsibility. But it seems very satisfying for people, like the people that I know that are actually like farmers or have a small farm. It's almost like a spiritual experience. It puts you in tune with life and death and how you live and what you eat. You're directly responsible for all the food that's in your body, which I think is a normal human requirement. There's a thing, if you just get the food from somewhere else,
Starting point is 01:41:17 I bet party is like, where is this coming from? Shut up. You have to squash that part of your brain. Your body is like, this fucking microwave burrito. Dude, I think there's these human reward systems that are inside of us. And I always equate it to like catching a fish. When you catch a fish, there's a fucking feeling when you catch a fish. Like, oh shit.
Starting point is 01:41:34 There's an excitement when you catch a fish that I think is primal. And I think it goes back to that meant you feed your family. Right. Because back in the day when they first invented fishing. Right. Thousands of years ago, that's what it meant. They first figured that out. So when you get a fish, you're like, oh. We survive.
Starting point is 01:41:51 It's so much so that people love to catch fish and put them back. Yeah, totally. Just for the rush. It's left over. They just fuck with the fish, and they have special hooks. Like when they go fly fishing, they're barbless. So you don't fuck them up. So you catch these trout, and you just release them damn
Starting point is 01:42:07 Yeah, well, I don't think he's thinking of it spiritually. He's just the fucking he's drunk as shit all the time He's crazy. Just like this. Yeah. I know he's not thinking about it that way, but there's a It's a great life. Well, he's the fuck. He's also like the criminally most criminally horny man. I've ever met my criminally Oh, I'm sorry. Never sit them He's not a priest just aggressively. He's just a very horny man I've ever met in my life. Criminally horny? Well, I'm sorry. Never said that. I'm not criminally. He's not a priest. Just like aggressively. He's just a very horny man. You're right.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Don't you think that was probably most humans? If you look at like testosterone rates in this country. Oh, that's what I was going to say earlier. You know, James Cameron said that testosterone is a toxin that men need to remove from their bodies. James Cameron? James Cameron said that. Fuck, dude.
Starting point is 01:42:42 is a toxin that men need to remove from their bodies. James Cameron? James Cameron said this. Fuck, dude. But Rob Wolf posted this on his Instagram today in response to that. Like, testosterone is the dominant hormone in women. Women have more estrogen than men, but men have more testosterone than women,
Starting point is 01:43:00 but women have more testosterone than they do estrogen. Estrogen is just what they have more of than us. Right, right, right. I did not know this. Yeah. And Rob Wolf put that on his page today. I had no idea. Needed a James Cameron.
Starting point is 01:43:13 Right. James Cameron. But the motherfucker can make a movie. He fuck makes the shit out of a movie. But in his movie, there's a lot of fucking aggressive male energy. Yeah, there's a lot of aggressive female energy too. Aliens. Aliens, yeah. Aliens, dollar sign. Yeah, that was a lot of aggressive female energy, too. Aliens. Aliens, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Aliens, dollar sign. Yeah, that was the one where the aliens were easy to kill. Like in the first one, you couldn't fucking come close to killing them. They were so hard to find. There was one, he was so clever. And the second one, they're like, boom, you shotgun him in the face. What if that was their commando? What if they got the fucking, the first one was just, like, the fucking most big dick badass fucking one of them.
Starting point is 01:43:49 And then it's just a bunch of bumbling dumbasses. I would love to see aliens from, it's like a comedy from their perspective. Where they're like, ooh. Right, the first one was a Navy SEAL. And these guys are just tech nerds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A bunch of fucking, yeah, a bunch of guys that do the back end for like fucking seamless. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:44:08 In their little fucking vests. Just getting fucking murked by that hot Latina chick. Oh, hell yeah. Who's that girl that was in that movie? She was the one. You like her, right? Yeah, I absolutely like her. I don't think she was Latina.
Starting point is 01:44:22 I think I've looked this up. She's not? I don't believe so. She plays a good Latina. She really does. You can't do that anymore. Wait a minute. Are's not? I don't believe so. She plays a good Latina. She really does. You can't do that anymore. Wait a minute. Are you sure?
Starting point is 01:44:27 I think so. The lady in Aliens? Who is it? Who's in Aliens? I believe I looked this up when I was horny for her. And I believe... And I believe... I want to say she might even be Jewish.
Starting point is 01:44:42 What? I might. I believe so. We'll see. Jamie will pull this up in any Jewish. What? I believe so. We'll see. Jamie will pull this up in any moment. The suspense is killing me. Good podcasting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:52 Okay. Yeah, dude, I believe she's fucking Jewish. She's got big old titties. That was a great fucking movie, bro. That was a great fucking movie. Yeah, there she is. Yeah, dude. That was a great fucking movie.
Starting point is 01:45:01 And I believe she has a brand of bras For big tits women Does she? Shut the fuck up Jeanette Goldstein No That is the Jewish Most Jewish name ever Jeanette Goldstein That's hilarious
Starting point is 01:45:19 Oh my god Oh my god That is hilarious By the way, I support her right to do that Look up Jeanette Goldstein bras for us Some people are gonna get mad at her now Because she played a Latina in a movie She was in Brown Face
Starting point is 01:45:34 She's got a strong tan The alphabet starts at D She's got a big titty She's got a giant bra That's another thing about the algorithm for a while when I was looking at TikToks. For a while, it was showing me influencers for big titted women who were looking for sports bras that'll fit them because I was looking up so many women with big breasts. They were like, well, maybe he's a lady with big tits that needs a bra that works.
Starting point is 01:46:00 Oh my God. It was like, no. Oh my God. No. Oh, I forgot to fucking speaking of sex sexual things i keep we're just fucking chatting i have my i wanted to also plug my 2023 erotic calendar uh yes i have i i can can i show you this right now yeah yeah that's another part of my uh it's my modeling career it's part of your hustle every fucking year i do it i'm just amazed people are still making calendars dude they love them they're it's a nice do you have
Starting point is 01:46:30 any calendars jamie do you own a calendar we got a calendar for a while that i used to keep in my office wall look at you stabby baby calendar for a sexy new year let me see flip through these motherfuckers let's see the. This is my pride and joy. Nice. Yeah. Jack Goff, you worry? That's right. Nice.
Starting point is 01:46:51 How about that squirt timber right there? Clitberry. Munch. Gabriel. Oh, nice. You like what you see, Joey? This is good. This is good.
Starting point is 01:47:02 You look great. Thank you. Shout out to my boy, Stefan. Stefan Fleming. Nice. Yeah. Fucked over. I like. Shout out to my boy, Stefan. Stefan Fleming. Nice. Yeah. Fucked over. I like the... So those are available, folks.
Starting point is 01:47:10 You can get them now. The calendar sells? People buy calendars? The calendar sells, dude. For fun, right? Like you have any cubicle and shit? Yeah, yeah. You'd probably get fired if you had this in your cubicle.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Why? There's no real... You don't show it. I do. You're smart. I don't show cock. No, there's no cock in there, right? At the very end, there's a Photoshopped.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Put a little piece of tape. Oh, there you go. Put a little piece of tape over that part. A friend of mine has a bar outside of town here, and he had this bathroom, and in the bathroom, in the men's room, they put up all these photos from Playboy magazine. Hell yeah. Old, old photos, like magazine covers. I love that.
Starting point is 01:47:50 So it's Playboy covers from like the 60s and 70s and some cartoons and shit. And people complained. What? Yeah, people complained. Men complained at the naked breasts. Got the too horny? Well, they had kids maybe. Bring your little boy in there to take a leak no it's
Starting point is 01:48:06 like a bar slash restaurant oh okay it's like it's a very nice place but anyway you go into this place and go in the bathroom and the fucking one of their bathrooms was themed in playboys and so they had to go over all the breasts and put like little stickers
Starting point is 01:48:22 little stickers over all the titties would it come up if you're like an 11 year old the week before they covered the titties you're like i'm gonna go to the bathroom you're like oh yeah and they'll allow a little bit of side boob little side like you could it seems like as long as you don't see the nipples a crazy thing it's like that one thing defines like oh jesus like of course if you just cover the nipple with stars Yeah, everyone's cool. Everyone's great to take an ex breasts are the weirdest fucking thing. Yeah in that regard Yeah, it's just something about showing a nipple for like the nip remember when Janet Jackson did at the Super Bowl people like Who really gives a fuck dude let the titties out
Starting point is 01:49:02 It's literally where children get food from I'm with you. We should be able to the titties out. It's literally where children get food from. I'm with you. We should be able to see titties. It's at the dinner table. What are we doing at the dinner table? We're seeing this. We're trying to watch the Super Bowl. It's wholesome. They also set her up. Jenna Jackson got fucked. She was the only one who suffered the consequences.
Starting point is 01:49:20 Justin Bieber didn't? Justin Timberlake was good. He was one of the Justins. One of them handsome fellas that's talented. Yeah, the last generation's Justin Bieber didn't? Justin Timberlake was good. Oh, Justin Bieber. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. He was one of the Justins. One of them handsome fellas that's talented. Yeah, the last generation is Justin Bieber. So they for sure planned that, right? You would think so. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Otherwise, it's kind of illegal. I remember looking it up and being like, time to jack off to this. Well, if they didn't plan it, it's highly illegal. For sure. If she didn't know about it and he did it, that's highly illegal. A hundred percent. You would think. So they had to have planned it.
Starting point is 01:49:49 And it backfired, and then he was like, oh. This is crazy. There was going to be a star underneath there. It's fucked. I can't believe he got the fuck. Didn't they date for a while? Did they? That's unfair.
Starting point is 01:50:00 I hope they did after that. No, I don't think it was after that. Before that? I think so. Maybe that's better. Prepare. they did after that. No, I don't think it was after that. Before that? I think so. Maybe that's better. Prepare. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think she's too pleased afterwards.
Starting point is 01:50:10 She became like a Muslim, I believe. Did she? Yeah, I believe she like wears the full hijab and the whole deal now. Nice. I think she even moved to another country. MJ for a while did go, didn't he go, Wasn't he hanging out with Farrakhan for a while? I don't know. At the end, that's a sick move.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Michael Jackson to do. To just go back to the fucking... Yeah, that's awesome. When you're under siege. At the end of his life, he was under siege. Yeah. That was a... You need your boys.
Starting point is 01:50:40 That's how talented he is, though. That people still play his music. I know. You know? There is like a... Like people will give you the stink eye if R. Kelly comes on. 100%. We were talking about this the other night. This friend of mine has a bar and he had a
Starting point is 01:50:53 dope ass playlist. And in that playlist was some R. Kelly. Remix to Ignition. And some of it he forgot. And he had to go back and remove it. Like oh shit. People got upset at him that it was playing. You need a... There's a threshold of bangers that you have to cross right to be able to like let your sexual crimes be right you know but it's also r kelly's songs were about fucking sexual that's the thing it's like this was written about someone in doing algebra homework you know what i
Starting point is 01:51:20 mean like like mj wasn't doing doing, his were just good fucking songs. ABC, it's easy as one, two, three. The clues were all there. Literally. Well, he was a child then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the thing. When he sang that, he was a little boy. Yeah, I mean, this is well-trod territory, but that's a guy whose life is the most fucked up of all time.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Well, it is well-trod territory, but are you aware of the castrata theory? The theory that he got his nuts chopped off? Yeah. I did not hear this. From his own doctor. Whoa. His doctor says he was chemically castrated. The same doctor that killed him by anesthetizing him every night?
Starting point is 01:51:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That same doctor said that he was chemically castrated when he was young. Damn. And that's how he maintained his voice. That's wild. What's wild is that that was a thing That they used to do that to young boys to get them to sing opera. Yeah, yeah, yeah Fucking bro. And being a eunuch and shit. That's another more history shit
Starting point is 01:52:12 It's like yeah a guy if your shit wasn't going so good your lower class It's like chop your dick off and I can trust you around my wife. Yeah, and then you can hang around the house Yeah, it's like damn. I don't know if I would have made that trade. Bro. That's that super creepy guy in game of thrones yeah yeah various fucking conniving little dickless wonder out there trying to run the world you don't want that guy around they're probably more like him than they were like obedient yeah they're probably angry as fuck you took your dick away i wonder all they get is free fruit yeah free i wonder if you could still bust from your ass
Starting point is 01:52:45 if they cut your dick off exactly you even you even wonder you gotta figure it out I guess if you like massage the stump while you're fingering your butt
Starting point is 01:52:55 cause they don't take the prostate out massage your prostate the prostate's still there how does the jizz come out it probably comes out the most disappointing looking like
Starting point is 01:53:03 it's a dribble it's like soft serve ice cream. Yeah, when the machine's down. It's probably so sad. Syrupy. It's the saddest nut you'll ever bust. Interesting. I wonder if
Starting point is 01:53:16 castratos could bust through their ass. I wonder if they kept their penis but they just removed their testicles. It's more likely it's what they did. Probably. With eunuchs, I don't know how they handled it. I think they might have just the whole thing. The whole thing's got to go. That's tough.
Starting point is 01:53:29 And then you just piss them from the little hole. Oh, that sucks. Give them a little dick. Oh, Jesus Christ. The whole thing is so terrifying that that was a common practice. I know. Or at least common enough that we know of it. I think it was pretty common.
Starting point is 01:53:41 I don't know. Because in all the history podcasts and books and shit, there's a lot of fucking eunuchs running around. And that's one of the things that was throughout history people did to people in war, cut their dick off, stuff it in their mouth. That's a tough one. It's like, come on, man.
Starting point is 01:53:57 You got your own dick in your mouth as you're watching the axe come down. That's got to be a special kind of horror. That's what it pays to have a little penis. I'll put it under my tongue like a tic-tac. Goddamn, man. You could spit your dick back out, Adam. What do you got
Starting point is 01:54:14 to lose at that point? So if we talk about declining sperm counts and how they're happening right now, like there's all these studies done on men's sperm counts since like the 1950s or rapid decline. If you go back in history, doesn't it make sense that they would go up and up and up like I think when it was really hard to stay alive I think people were probably ultra hyper horny mmm because you only had a small window long as you had food we
Starting point is 01:54:37 enough food so you could you weren't like starving you probably super horny because they're probably they're probably wilder people but at the same time you're probably so fucking overworked you're so you know it's like i think it's probably the way like height goes in society where it's like everyone was literally the more nourished you are i think there's probably a we hit a point where it's like we have the most comforts we have the most nourished and we're kind of like you know not as overworked right and i think that's probably just you you know, fully have no fucking clue. No, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:55:07 But it makes sense that you're saying with resources. But if there was like a resource rich area, like say if there was an area where people were hunters, gatherers, and they grew some food and they all did like your uncle does in Greece and they all lived off the land. But, you know. They all took pictures of women's breasts with their Motorola flip phone too? Is that what you meant? They're well nourished.
Starting point is 01:55:27 But they're well nourished, but they're people that are living 1,000, 2,000 years ago. Yeah. Like they probably were horny as fuck. There's probably like a, I would say a slim majority that is the horniest guys of all time. All time. But I think most of them are just so beaten down by how fucking atrocious their lifestyle is. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:55:45 That it's like, you know. Yeah, that's true too. But the young guys who aren't beaten down yet, they got to be the most horrific. And at the same time, when you're so beaten down, what do you have if not busting a nut? Killing people. Yeah. Killing people and eating roast lamb. But the guys that didn't get to kill.
Starting point is 01:56:00 The guys that are fucking getting killed and fucking, you know. Which is most guys. Most guys are just fucking chaffing wheat or whatever the fuck for the fucking emperor or the fucking, whoever the fuck is,
Starting point is 01:56:11 you know. And if you live in like a super brutal, horrible place, good luck inventing anything. Oh, dude. Good luck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:19 They had no, we talk about time off. It's like they had, their time off was the fucking Sunday because they got to go to church and see the had their time off was the fucking sunday because they got to go to church and see the full circle go to the fucking priests you know blinged out just fucking hang and that was very interesting i read a book about the the like medieval times
Starting point is 01:56:35 where it's like church was just honestly people were just hanging out like it was kind of like social dwelling social yeah like the priest was reading shit but no one could really understand they didn't know Latin. Right. They were just fucking hanging out. It's kind of interesting because it was like, it makes sense. What year did they make it so the Catholic priest had to take a vow of chastity? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:56:55 Let's find that out. I guarantee that was in response to them banging everybody. I guarantee you. I still think it's because they wouldn't have to pay the equivalent of child support. I don't think they... That's too complicated a scheme. I think more likely is they had to put a stop to these guys banging everybody. But see, would that put a stop to it?
Starting point is 01:57:14 Couldn't they still keep getting... I think they probably did it in those fucking confession booths. That was probably their idea. That's how it started? The first glory hole? In between. Open that fucking door. Give me all the old stuff.
Starting point is 01:57:26 How many of those were glory holes? A hundred of them. That's pretty cool. All right. I'm back in on the Catholic Church. If you can find me artifacts of glory holes, I'm in. I used to do a joke about it. Imagine the idea where you take a guy who's not allowed to masturbate or have sex ever.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Then you make him listen to fuck stories whispered through a hole in the wall Because that's mostly what people confess there's a couple of murders, but it's a lot of fuck my brother It's a lot of crazy stuff. Absolutely. You're dealing with people that you know, yeah thousand years ago. They're fucking animals. Absolutely Wild people 100% it's all like fucking Game of Thrones shit. They're all just doing- I fucked the servant. The servant sucked me off. Yeah, they're fucking everybody.
Starting point is 01:58:10 They killed a guy with an ax. Yeah. Stole an apple. Yeah. Absolutely. That kind of shit. Absolutely. Bro, imagine watching someone get hacked to death when you're a child.
Starting point is 01:58:18 That's a normal thing to see. You're seven years old. You see a guy lose a sword fight. Yeah, that's- His head falls down, blood squirting out of his neck like a fire hydrant. And that guy who was, in your mind, ancient, he's like 20 years old. Oh my God. Like they died so fucking soon.
Starting point is 01:58:32 So fucking soon. Although I do wonder, other shit I'm reading is like some of the shit, especially in like cities and stuff like that, it wasn't as brutal and like, we do have like a barbaric, certainly that happened a lot, but there was also like, I think a little bit of how dirty and shit it was is a little overblown, too. But I'm interested in that. No, I think there was a high level of sophistication in comparison to a lot of other cultures back then. But in terms of us today, I bet we would be shocked by how, like, savage they behave. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 01:59:03 I think so. I think they're probably both intelligent and savage i mean marcus aurelius meditations is like still to this day one of the most interesting books on philosophy and the way a guy lives his life ever that motherfucker wrote that as the roman emperor 2 000 years ago damn what did he see that is wild what kind of shit did that guy see? Yeah, what a fucking nerd. You get to be the emperor you're fucking doing homework. No, I'm in the harem brother. He's talking about forgiveness He's talking about like forgiveness is one of the things that he talks about a lot. Interesting. Yeah, and about
Starting point is 01:59:40 Managing your mind and stoicism. It's very interesting man. Huh? Yeah, I listened to an audio version of it in the sauna, and I felt like such a pussy. Yeah. This guy's writing this from this incredible position of strength thousands of years ago, and his advice to people was to learn how to be more charitable, to be nicer and kinder to each other, and to forgive people. That is a radical stance for a leader of a fucking empire.
Starting point is 02:00:06 He was trying to legitimately be a better person, seemed like, and lead by example. But then he had this son that was a monster. Yeah, that's how it happens. Isn't that wild? That's always how it happens. His son is a fucking evil monster. Yeah, I haven't gotten into too much Roman shit yet.
Starting point is 02:00:20 I'm still in the Greek shit. I gotta take a piss real fast. Go piss, my brother. Go piss. I've been holding it. I'm having a great time. Yeah, me too. I don't want it to shit. Dude, all of it is. Go piss, my brother. Go piss. I've been holding it. I'm having a great time. Yeah, me too. I don't want it to end.
Starting point is 02:00:28 Yeah, dude. All right, we'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen. Comedians that don't get good at podcasts is because they're not really listening to you. They're waiting for their turn. Yeah, they're waiting for their turn. And that doesn't work. When comedians do podcasts where they don't actually listen to what the other person's saying oh yeah just it's normal for us though you just always want to you're always on
Starting point is 02:00:51 you're trying to say something so sometimes like you can only hold like one thought in your head you can't hold the thought in the head that that person has because you got something to say because you got something in the back of your head yeah like some guys are like tony hinchcliffe is the fucking best ever off have you you done to kill Tony? Oh my god, you gotta do kill Tony next time. Do you know what what it is? Yeah. Yeah Yeah, if Monday she does it Monday's okay, but when he off the cuff that motherfucker is so sharp He's so that like that's how his mind works Hmm, so his mind is like if you're saying you could be in the middle of something really important
Starting point is 02:01:21 He's got a guy with a zinger he's got some ridiculous pun yeah no to stick into there but it's like this job is the greatest job of all time yeah it's just get to talk shit it's a great racket so i i stopped doing my other podcast and i was like fuck i don't really want to do podcasts and then like it was like six months and i was on the road and i was doing other shit and it's like it is you and also you get to talk shit, but you just get to connect with, like, fans. You want to be there, like, once or twice a week. I mean, you're there every day, but it's a cool way to connect to people. So that's why I'm excited to fucking get my other shit popping right now.
Starting point is 02:01:55 It's a cool way to talk to people too. Yeah. I don't think people do that much talking to people like we do. No, that's true. I think that's – I think it's important for yourself. It's important for how you understand how people, like everybody has a different style of communication and everybody has a different life story and everybody has different things they do for a living.
Starting point is 02:02:16 Everybody has a different approach. And I think I'm just like gathering data. Yeah. Like all the time. I'm so much more aware of things now than I ever was when I first started doing this. Yeah, I think that's true. And I think also it's like it recharges you too, right? Because it's like, especially post pandemic shit where it was like going out and actually
Starting point is 02:02:35 getting to fucking talk to somebody and like, you know, yeah, gather data. Also it's like you're in a place in your life where it's like, like it took me forever not to have every motivation in my life be getting pussy so it's like so it's like if every conversation wasn't like leading to getting pussy one way or the other yeah you know other than like being with your like best friends or just kicking it and it's nice to mature a little bit and be like you know i do like i just want to read about fucking did the trojan war actually happen i want to read about fucking you know i this is what i want to do i want to talk to somebody about this thing i don't care
Starting point is 02:03:09 i don't need my my needs have evolved well the thing is it's stimulating but it's not an urge see sex is stimulating but it's an urge yeah so sex is a biological urge so you get horny when guys get horny like we get horny you Right, right, right. Like we get horny, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when you don't get intellectually horny, but it is stimulating. So you have to like trick yourself into engaging in it. Yeah. And then once you engage in it, you go, oh, this is fascinating. That's how I am with like documentaries and books. And like I have to get engaged with it.
Starting point is 02:03:40 And then once I get engaged with it, I'm like, oh, I really do enjoy this. No, that's true. It almost feels like a roller coaster where you have to just kind of push yourself to engage. And then once you do, it's like fucking bombs away. Yeah, because it's like logically you know there's a lot of things you'd like to do, but you don't engage in doing them for whatever reason, right? But then the urges are food. You have an urge to eat. You get hungry.
Starting point is 02:03:59 You get horny. You get tired. You want to go to sleep. Oh, that's a good point. You got to take a piss. I never thought of that. Like there's all these urges. I do don't have an urge for intellectual curiosity or even an urge to be creative It's right
Starting point is 02:04:10 It's just like you know It's good to sit down and write because that's where the jokes come from Of course, but you don't have like our urge like you have an urge to eat right it had when it strike And that's why I feel so great when sometimes it does strike you yeah, and you're like whoa this does feel like yes natural Biological almost but you're never, whoa, this does feel natural, biological almost. But you're never going to beat the fucker. No, never. Doesn't have a chance. The fucker sells cars
Starting point is 02:04:32 and watches and houses. Oh, dude, fully. I want to be in a relationship for a couple different reasons. I think I'm 33. It's about time. I took it really seriously. I haven't been in that many.
Starting point is 02:04:46 But it's also like as you grow up, you're like, I want to find someone I like. I want to invest in this relationship in a deeper way. But I also want to feel secure
Starting point is 02:04:56 in that part of my life so that I can expand in every other shit that I love. That bodybuilder's cracking her knuckles listening to this right now. I forgot about her.
Starting point is 02:05:03 Stabby baby, I'm your woman she's ready to go son and she's out there she's out there she's out there 100 can guarantee she's out there it's there it's her it's fucking uh i weirdly like ancient like not ancient but like modern greek women have like like teachers teaching greek have gotten into my algorithm it's like the algorithm knows you before you know yourself. And it's like. What about a little woman who can kick your ass?
Starting point is 02:05:29 That's cool too. I'm so in. I just want the connection, but there's plenty of things. There's plenty of things that excite me. You know, obviously the classic big old titties. Classic. I have classically been. It's never going to go away.
Starting point is 02:05:42 The curly hair, big titties guy has been a classic. It's a classic. There's a reason why girls get them done to make them bigger. Sure, sure. That's how dumb we are though. Yeah. We can't have anything fake. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:54 They could literally, no one cares if you have fake boobs. Oh, dude, I would love, dude, I have thought about this where it's like, what would be the equivalent to plastic surgery? I would get penis implants if they were real if what would be the equivalent to plastic surgery I would get I would get penis implants if they were real if they were the way titties look
Starting point is 02:06:09 a hundred I'd get it tomorrow the thing is a guy couldn't do that because a woman wouldn't like it like guys don't seem to we're dumber
Starting point is 02:06:16 we don't seem to care if their boobs are fake I don't think they would but if we have fake hair they'll throw up right right true fake hair is a tough one that's why I'm looking like this.
Starting point is 02:06:25 But fake hair is nothing compared to a fake dick. Sure. You can't have a fake dick. But if you could, what I'm saying is if the technology was there, I'm first in line. The thing would be pills. Pills to make your, to grow your cock? Yeah, I used to have a bit about if the day they invent a big dick pill. I know that bit because it's like you wouldn't have to, there would be no advertising.
Starting point is 02:06:44 30 seconds before the first guy died of an overdose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, no one's just going to take one. They're like, how many give me a stroke? I'm going to take one less than give me a stroke. And I had a whole bit about how dicks would become so big that guys would have to push them around in shopping carts. And women would evolve to have these giant flying squirrel pussy people. And the guys would chase them up to the top of cliffs,
Starting point is 02:07:05 and they would leap to safety. It was the dumbest thing ever. I love it. That's when you rode high as hell. But it's obviously like if guys had a pill that made their dick big, we'd have preposterous dicks. We'd be too stupid. It would be like those poor ladies that have those triple H tits.
Starting point is 02:07:19 Right. They're so big. They don't understand. Like, that's too big, honey. Sorry. What'd you do? I know. Don't do that.
Starting point is 02:07:25 That's a little much but a little much. There's a fucking thing that I sent to Tom Segura. Do you know these dudes that stick oil in their muscles? Oh, those guys are weird as fuck. The Popeye-looking motherfuckers? Oh, my God. There's one. Is that one Russian guy?
Starting point is 02:07:37 There's a bunch of them, but this one, I believe, is from Brazil. And I sent it to Tommy. Here it is. I'm going to send it to you, Jamie. It's so crazy. You look at it, you're like, what in the fuck am I looking at? Who is this for? Well, this guy, it's just, I mean, it's so nuts.
Starting point is 02:07:56 But it's one of those things. It's like people get like body dysmorphia. They don't know what they're doing. Guys would definitely do that with dicks. 100%. Look at what this guy's done with this oil stuff in his body. It's so weird.
Starting point is 02:08:07 It's just... Oh, I've seen that. That sucks. What happened? Where'd he go? Where'd that motherfucker go? He went away. What happened?
Starting point is 02:08:15 Yeah, I don't... Is it a trick? Oh, that's brutal, dude. What happened there? I don't know what's happening. Post from Jim Fail Nation. Yeah, like, it's... It's...
Starting point is 02:08:22 It's... I'm on the page, look, and I can't go anywhere. It disappeared. That's so weird. Do you think it's been restricted? There he is. I'll leave it for a second.
Starting point is 02:08:32 Yeah, it goes away. Yeah, that looks horrible. Go to their videos. Go to the top of their post. See if you can find it in there. Maybe it's been removed. And maybe you can only get it like the very first
Starting point is 02:08:45 seconds of it or something. Oh my god. That shit sucks. If you saw it for that brief image, this guy has done something where all of his muscles look like balloons. Wow, that's so crazy. Well, take a screenshot.
Starting point is 02:09:00 Take a screenshot. We're pushing Jamie to his limit. To his technical limit. Jamie's a wizard, bro. Get that screenshot. Here he is. Bam. Screenshot.
Starting point is 02:09:10 Screenshot. I got it. I got it. There he is. Okay. Here we go. Oh, shit. Bam.
Starting point is 02:09:14 We got it. I mean, those look like titties. Those look like- Well, it looks insane. Yeah. It's insane. And his biceps are insane, too. They don't even look like biceps.
Starting point is 02:09:21 They look like- The fucking- The traps are the worst part. I don't have any control over that. The traps are truly horrendous. All of it looks crazy. It just doesn't make any sense that you would do that to yourself. Guys would definitely do that for dicks. That's my point.
Starting point is 02:09:34 That's what I'm saying. I need a functional penis. I would do that in a second. That guy doesn't. If he could stuff that stuff in his dick, he probably has tried. There's guys who have tried. He's going to make it ribbed for your pleasure. Dude, they'll do whatever the fuck you want. Yeah, there's definitely bumps on that guy's dick.
Starting point is 02:09:50 One way or another. Yeah, he's going to spiral it around. The pig dick? No, no, like with the bumps. Spiral it around like some sort of a pleasure device. Yes, yes, yes, yes. If you could get a bigger dick. Isn't it fascinating that we can put satellites into orbit?
Starting point is 02:10:07 Here it is. We got it. Oh, a safari only. Apple was trying to suppress it. They're underneath. Oh, no. Yeah. He's stretched them.
Starting point is 02:10:16 No. They're down. Oh, this sucks. Or maybe he cut them off because he didn't like the aesthetic. Oh, no. Oh, there's his nipples. His nipples are way below the tit. They're not even where they're supposed to be. He's got the tummy tuck Oh, no. Oh, there's his nipples. His nipples are way below the tit. They're not even where they're supposed to be.
Starting point is 02:10:26 He's got the tummy tuck stomach, too. He looks brutal. Look what he's doing to his legs, too. He's doing it to his legs. He's so much closer to a fuckable woman than a man. He's also probably days from death. Yeah, he's done, for sure. If you're doing that, your body's filled with this invasive agent.
Starting point is 02:10:43 100%. That's just making you swell so unnatural i mean that's why i love the reality is i want to lose a little weight because i want to feel better but i don't mind i like how i look that's the other thing i feel bad for people that are like have that extreme body dysmorphia i think it looks i think it's out being fat's fun everyone likes a jolly fat guy i like my my hair. You just want to be healthy. I just want to feel better. I want to be healthy.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Yeah. That's it. The problem is those two don't really coincide with each other that well. But you can make a comfortable medium. That's what I'm saying. That's the thing. I weigh like 300 pounds now, right? And it's like, I could lose 60 easy.
Starting point is 02:11:21 Still be pretty fat, but be much healthier than this. Same guy. Is he bigger here? Same guy. He does look bigger. Oh, my God. He's god he's like oh my god he pumped it up further he's got the super saiyan fucking editing so insane that guy's gonna be dead man oh i mean literally his his tits kind of turned me on he's gonna be so much closer to women's breasts than they are fucking jacked fucking pecs what's crazy is he probably is really weak because of all that stuff, too. Oh, for sure, yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:47 It probably inhibits his ability to move things around, so he's probably weak as fuck while being gigantic. Yeah. And who's attracted to that? Who's into that guy? Well, he's clearly insane. Yeah, he's a fucking crazy guy. That's an insane person.
Starting point is 02:12:01 Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, no. What are you doing to your arms, bro? Dude, poke that thing. The veins are so weird. Fuck, that's so crazy that he's done that to his arms. That's like with his whole pages, I found.
Starting point is 02:12:11 Oh, no. Oh, this sucks. Look at that dude's boobies because he's got the guy on Mastica. Scroll up a little. I'm sorry. That's okay. Look at this guy. Ah, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:12:21 Oh, my God. That's so insane. What is the page called? Body Stronger Brazil. Brazil. Oh, Jesus God. That's so insane. What is the page called? Body Stronger Brazil. Brazil. Jesus Christ. That guy's got titties. That dude grew breasts.
Starting point is 02:12:31 Oh, my God. Nipple pump, it says. Nipple pump? Is that what it is? He used a nipple pump? I don't know. That's what it says on top. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:12:38 Dude. There's no way. That's probably gynomastica. Yeah, that's what girls are doing. Oh, my God. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That looks like a chicken's, like a fucking drumstick. Oh, my God. That's probably Ganyomastica Oh my god Oh no no no That looks like a chicken's Like a fucking drumstick
Starting point is 02:12:48 Oh my god that's so crazy Don't do that Don't do that I'm listening Oh my god That's the closest one Take it down to eight You got a little overzealous at the end
Starting point is 02:13:03 You got crazy You need someone who's a designer No no no Trust me We're good But I think it's one of those things If you can make it That's what's the problem with like plastic surgery right
Starting point is 02:13:14 If you think you can change it And then you do change it Then you want to change it a little more better I don't like this about me I don't like that You go down the rabbit hole Just like anything else I don't like this weird piece of skin
Starting point is 02:13:24 I don't like the way my nose meets the rabbit hole just like anything else. Yeah, I don't like this weird piece of skin. Yeah. I don't like the way my nose meets my eyebrows. Like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then you get to be that cat lady. Yeah. Right? You ever remember that cat lady? Who looked like, what's her name? Beauty and the Beast? Exactly. Who looked like a hellboy in Beauty and the Beast? It's a perfect example
Starting point is 02:13:39 of someone who went down that rabbit hole and went crazy. Yeah. No, I, it's definitely, you can definitely go, that's why I think it's, I think, you know, you just got to let yourself age. You just got to fucking, that's another thing. There is like a humanity to someone who ages with grace and doesn't give a fuck. There definitely is. I mean, we admire that.
Starting point is 02:13:59 Absolutely. We admire someone who doesn't turn themselves into a monster. At 100%. But it's just like, I guess, when you just start fixing this and then fix that and I get a little filler. Where does it end? These are puffy. Can we do something about this? Yeah. Maybe I'm going to cheek stick out more.
Starting point is 02:14:16 Then I won't have these wrinkles. But I also, I'm lucky because just big fat guy that everybody likes. One of the fucking best guys to be. You know what I mean? You don't have to look good. You know, like, I never have to worry about that. I just have to, like, stay alive long enough to enjoy it. You just got to stay funny.
Starting point is 02:14:32 Yeah. You don't want to be the bitter fat guy. That's a tough guy to be. But the funny fat guy, it's a great gig. Great gig. One of the best in the fucking universe. I'm a good time. I'm a great hang.
Starting point is 02:14:42 We'll just fucking... When I'm on my... Like, when I'm in party mode We're eating like animals I know the best places I get fucked up all the time But now I'm like let me fucking survive the road Let me stay sober
Starting point is 02:14:54 So you're staying sober and you're trying to exercise Yeah I'm working out My little brother actually he started a gym Odyssey Strength in Maryland We did some video series Over the summer we did a workout series together He's a gym, Odyssey Strength, in Maryland. We did some video series. Over the summer, we did a workout series together. He's a great trainer. He really is, my brother Nick.
Starting point is 02:15:11 And he's got a little workout plan for me where it's like, you know, if I miss a day because I'm traveling or whatever, it's a full-body workout. He's got me on a thing. And I haven't maintained the weight loss, but I keep working out. I'm getting stronger. I've stayed sober. And it's like little baby steps because it's like you have to realize if this is what you want, if like stand-up and touring is what you want, this is just what my life's going to be like.
Starting point is 02:15:34 So I have to figure out how to get healthy within it. Like I thought I could take like – at one point I was like fantasizing about I'm going to take a year off and I'm just going to fucking do everything right. And that would be great. I would really enjoy that because I lost a lot of weight during the pandemic because all I had to do was like focus. And I really liked it. But then life fucking happens. And it's like if you want to be on the road, it's hard.
Starting point is 02:15:55 There's obstacles. And I don't have my fucking willpower is not great. Yeah. But you can develop that. You really can. And that's what I'm trying to do. It seems like you're doing it. So I'm trying step by step.
Starting point is 02:16:03 that you really can and that's what i'm trying to do it seems like you're doing it so i'm trying step by step next next tour i'm going to try doing some meal like meal uh meal prep meal delivery stuff to like the hotel and just like that's a great move that's the next move so step by step but my brother's a really good move he's been great like it's really nice to have like a fucking health professional like a guy who's a brother that's my brother and i feel i feel like a dumbass for not you know we've had you know for not reaching out like he was like he was like why didn't you hit me up on the road he was like because when we dude when we went back like when i went back the summer after i was in great i was great i was in great shape for me after the pandemic and then i toured for the whole year and dude it was like when i went back i was like let's go bro let's get jacked he was like
Starting point is 02:16:42 you're not even touching weights. I was fucking opening bands up. I was doing like fucking, you know. Oh, he's very smart then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. No, he's great. Nick is fucking, Nico Halkis. Check him out.
Starting point is 02:16:52 Check out Odyssey Strength. Yeah, a friend of mine decided to start working out. Went to this trainer. Got three hernias. That's what would have happened. Dude, I couldn't. I'm like, what happened? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:01 And he's like, he had me doing way too much, way too hard. And he's an older guy. Right. Now he's kind of fucked. Yeah, dude. My brother had me doing like too much way too hard and he's an older guy right now he's kind of fucked yeah dude my brother had me doing like the kind of workouts really smart an old woman does when she breaks her hip you know what i mean like it was very smart of him yeah well he loves you that's awesome no he's the man and uh you follow action bronson i fucking love my man action bronson's a shit yeah i worked out with action bronson when he was here when he's in town to do my podcast we went and worked out at the gym that dude gets after it yeah we did a kettlebell workout under john wolf and he fucking gets after it every day that guy does that's and
Starting point is 02:17:34 he was so much bigger than you yeah he was so big and so unhealthy and he had a kid and he's like i gotta fix my life no i get that honestly beautiful i love that little story. And I do think, as much as I don't think I can take a whole year off, I am really looking like even this winter, I'm taking four weeks off and I'm just going just all health before the tour starts. And that'll be fun. Because like, yeah, Action Bronson just fucking, he was
Starting point is 02:17:57 just dedicated. Dedicated. And that's awesome. That's awesome to see. Still is. He's a fucking everyday guy. It's amazing. That's sick. Yeah, it's amazing. No, I want big arms, little titties. That's my goal, dude. What is he doing? Pro wrestling now? He's wrestling now, yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:10 He's Jack now, dude. He's awesome. He used to be a big guy. Now he's a big Jack guy. He did Sam Morrell, me and Sam. He had a show. Sam was the host of the show on MSG. He's the man.
Starting point is 02:18:22 He's just checking, body checking people, knocking them to the ground. Boom. Oh, look at this. This is so ridiculous. Nah, he's the man. He did a lot for the plus size community. Well, he showed you there's a way out. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:34 You can become healthy. He's so much healthier. No, him and Ethan Suplee. Ethan's a fucking man. I love that guy. Ethan's a man too. He's a guy that I told him, I go, if I saw you today, I'd be like, that's the guy I avoided in jujitsu class. Like, fuck out of here you big gorilla he's so big he's so big he started out
Starting point is 02:18:49 like matt he he broke his stitches like he he got skin removed lost the weight and then regained it to the point where he's like break he had to get more damn done yeah he's but he's honest about it all and now he looks fucking amazing no he's the man he's just such a cool dude just a really interesting guy too interesting guy to talk to and look at his fucking career i mean he's worked with every cool director like it's been around forever so and so many fucking cool from like you know childhood shit to like scorsese movies he's the fucking man whenever a person can become super healthy in front of everybody like that that That's a giant, it's a huge, like, force of energy for people. Definitely. Look how big he is now.
Starting point is 02:19:30 Nah, dude, yeah. He's fucking jacked. He's jacked as shit. And look how, like, overweight he was on the left, and look what he looks like now. Yeah. I mean, that's like, for people that are, like, out there that don't have hope, and they feel like they fucked their life up impossibly. For sure.
Starting point is 02:19:43 You see that guy, and you go, oh. Yeah. He did it in front of everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did it in front of the whole world. Yeah, and it wasn't easy, either. Like, that shit's fucking tough. hope and they feel like they fucked their life up impossibly for sure see that guy you go oh yeah he did in front of everybody yeah did in front of the whole world yeah and it wasn't easy either like that shit's fucking tough and he fucking slipped a few times yeah that's human that's the other thing yeah that's the other thing is that like yeah shit happens dude and especially when you're your biggest thing is like for me i can do a lot of drugs i can fucking stop doing i'm pretty i'm pretty lucky in that where i don't really get addicted it's food food gets me like it is the drug like i've stayed sober on
Starting point is 02:20:11 this tour and i've been healthier but i still my eating is what slips and that's what yeah you know it's like so that's why i was like dude sobriety will help it'll keep the guardrails so you don't go crazy like if you get when I get high it's like forget it We're ordering fucking six entrees right to have a little taste everything. You know what I mean? Yeah after shows especially right you deserve it Truly like heaven is the way I would like to do the road and you don't get unhealthy Like if you get right more jacked according to how if you eat more that's heaven is like I'm after a show I'm eating 18 wings and pure like you should slow down. It's like, I'm after a show, I'm eating 18 wings, and people are like, you should slow down.
Starting point is 02:20:46 It's like, I need the six pack, I gotta get the 24. I'm trying to get jacked. Imagine if that was what got you jacked. If your body was like a furnace. I'd be Ronnie Coleman, bro. The more food you throw in there, the hotter it gets. Imagine if it's all about how much food you ate. I would be the fucking most jacked man of all time. We would run out of food. We would be the fucking most jacked man of all time.
Starting point is 02:21:05 We would run out of food. We would start eating each other. If that was the case. Yeah. People would resort to catabolism. We'd get rid of the crocodiles. We'd be getting crocodile barbecue for sure. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 02:21:19 But yeah, no, there's nothing better than after a show. Oh my God, food after shows, especially after you smoked a joint. Dude. And you go to a place that has good food. Like, oh. Oh, it's the fucking best. While you're eating, it's the most amazing food ever. And you're with your friends. Yes especially after you smoked a joint. Dude. And you go to a place that has good food. Like, oh. Oh, it's the fucking best. While you're eating, it's the most amazing food ever. And you're with your friends. Yes, you're having fun.
Starting point is 02:21:29 You're having fun. And the pressure of the show's off. You had a great time. That's the hardest part about it. The worst part about comedy is that the day doesn't end. You have something to worry about up until midnight. Right. Like, you wake up and you're less stressed than you would be at 7 p.m.
Starting point is 02:21:42 But it's like, you don't get the, like, the breakfast is the only the only kind of like non-stressful time when you're on the road because it's like the show is so far away. But like you're not done for the day until fucking midnight. And then if you're eating dinner, you got to be careful. Like how many hours do I have before the show? Like, okay, I got to like cut down the carbs and no pasta. That's going to slow me down. Totally, totally. Because it'll slow your brain down.
Starting point is 02:22:08 That's what you don't realize. You don't think about it. When you have food digesting in your body, it slows your fucking brain down. Yeah, dude. And I was just going on stage just like after fucking like, I could take an edible at 3 p.m. and have a whole pizza and I'll sleep it off. It was just like, like I was in Providence. I did this little thing
Starting point is 02:22:26 on YouTube. It was like when the pleasure stops because my last tour was the Prince of Pleasure tour and the last stop was Providence in Philly and I just brought my buddy Matt Salicues along. He's done stuff with Sam. He directed his rooftop special and it was just taking my buddy Eldis.
Starting point is 02:22:42 He was fucking, you know, he was with me but he like, he produces shit for me now. And they were just had a camera going and it just captured like, bro, I'm fucking, I took edibles. I thought there were 10 milligrams. It was fucking, or I thought there were five. They were 50s. And I just have 100 milligrams going. I'm eating like shit.
Starting point is 02:23:00 We have a fucking breakfast. And I'm just like, and the breakfast was supposed to be like a good meal for the day i'm like i'm ordering fucking oh we'll get a creme brulee french toast for the table that move the fat guy move up for the table and just like i'm crushing seven eighths of it you know what i mean it's like well it's mine you know that kind of shit and i was just fucked i was just like there was a show the saturday show i was like i'm in a fugue state i don't remember what the fuck's going on here because I'm off that. That next day after Edibles is the best feeling, like, I find, where you're, like, not as high, but it's still, like, in your system. You're relaxed.
Starting point is 02:23:34 You're just relaxed, but you're still, like, you don't want to be doing work. Right. You don't want to be fucking looking up the fucking, you know, crocodile videos. You know what I mean? You want to see baboons get their shit rocked. And I was just, like, full of pancakes, just like like and then we had a full we're in providence so we go to little italy full fucking italian chicken cutlet i mean i was fucked up dude and you know what what's funny is it does slow your brain down but it's like it kind of goes
Starting point is 02:23:58 back to what we were talking about earlier where i love when a fat athlete you know what i mean because it's like john daly because yeah it's john Daly because it's like, yeah, you have to have finesse. You know what I mean? You can't be a pure power player, so you have to actually be more aware of what you have because you're not firing on all cylinders. You can get by on just pure muscle memory, whatever. Those were actually pretty fun. That's the irony is I'm actually pretty good at comedy when I'm that fucked up.
Starting point is 02:24:25 I'm like shit. And when I'm like, Well, you're having fun. Exactly. That is really what it is. That's a lot of it, man. I mean, if you're not having fun, it's very hard to be funny.
Starting point is 02:24:35 Yeah. If you're not having fun, even if you're saying the same thing. No, that's a great point because I love, I mean, my favorite kind of comedy is just like when you're trying to have
Starting point is 02:24:42 a fucking good time when it's like, I'm just i'm telling you about me i'm telling you about personal stories like i personally am not a very i'm not trying to make a lot of points i'm trying to tell you about a time my dick wasn't getting hard you know what i mean like i'm telling you about embarrassing myself sexually you're having fun and that's what i do you know we're talking about a little bit about like podcasts that is that's what i realized like yeah a, when you're really doing it right,
Starting point is 02:25:05 is just about having fun. I was going to just stop podcasting, and then I was like, fuck it. It's pretty fun. No, it's the most fun. It's the next level of what started with the Opie and Anthony show. What started with the Opie and Anthony show was they had comics on, they would hang, and we'd all just talk shit to each other,
Starting point is 02:25:20 and it was so much fun, and you always looked forward to it. It was the only morning show that I would legitimately always look forward to like legitimately always oh yeah because that's in the era where every morning show i mean thank god i came up in pot like i've only done two morning shows as a headliner oh you got lucky because i got everybody but some of them were a lot of fun man there was a bunch that i used to really enjoy doing guys in philly and arizona and seattle there was a bunch that were really fun but you know some of them were dry and some some of them, the DJ was kind of douchey. And some of them, they were really cool. Because they're these little kings of their own little domain.
Starting point is 02:25:50 Exactly. And they hate when someone actually is funnier than them. It's also like you're the most renegade of all art forms. You just went to bed an hour ago. You smell like tequila. You've got glitter on your face for some reason. And you're sitting there talking shit. And you're entertaining. and you're sitting there talking shit,
Starting point is 02:26:07 and you're entertaining, and you're having fun. Yeah. You know, and some guys bring the people in, like Bert Kreischer, he'll get everybody drunk with him. Yeah. You know, and he'll, like, bring the party to those things. He's really good at, he was really, always really, I don't think he does morning shows anymore.
Starting point is 02:26:19 He probably doesn't have to. Yeah. But he might do them if he's doing it for a friend. He's also, like, the kind of lunatic that likes doing shit like that. He would do it for a friend. Guys that he knows from back in the day. But the point is like. After he's been drunk all night.
Starting point is 02:26:32 Like I remember I was in Tampa and I was opening for Bobby. And he brought me in to do morning radio with him. And Bert was also. We were at SideSplitters and Bert was at the improv or whatever. And Bert was like getting fucked up. And he was about to run a fucking marathon that day or something. And I was like, what? And I, we, me and Bobby had driven through the night. So we only had like a few hours of sleep.
Starting point is 02:26:56 And I was like, I feel like a bus hit me. I'm, you know, however much younger than this guy. And he's just getting fucked up at 6 a.m. He's going to go run a marathon. He's going to go do two shows and run a marathon. Well, as much as Burt drinks, he's always consistently worked out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that makes a big difference because when we did this Sober October fitness challenge a few years ago, he put in real fucking numbers every day.
Starting point is 02:27:14 Yeah. Because we all had to wear a chest strap and read how much exercise you've done. He put in real numbers every day. So the dude, even though he would hammer the booze he also works out and like that's his strategy his strategy is to keep his body healthy so he can drink respect respect man i mean obviously it's working yeah yeah how do you not love the guy no he's one of the best people ever yeah he's a great he's a great hang yeah he's such a character yeah but no you're right it is like it is just like a a pod is fun
Starting point is 02:27:45 that's what I realized and the last pod that was super fun and this one that I'm doing now I just started at Stavi's World I had Sam Morrell actually he was my first guest
Starting point is 02:27:55 so it's like fun it's like I'm doing why did you stop the last one yeah I was a dude I was a little burned out it was at the end of that tour
Starting point is 02:28:02 like we were talking about where I was just like I gained a lot of weight I was I had overworked myself because burned out. It was at the end of that tour, like we were talking about, where I was just like, I gained a lot of weight. I was, I had overworked myself because coming out of the pandemic, I tried to make up for a whole year off by just never getting off the road. Right. And it's just like, it was little shit. It's like, you know, I was like, I just want to focus on stand up and I just want to like,
Starting point is 02:28:21 you know, and I think on a certain point we had kind of creatively had gotten a little stale and we were all just like i don't know let's kind of like i was feeling like maybe there's another thing i want to pour all my energy into stand up um and and it was just like i dude i kind of just stopped everything i took a little break and i put the special out and i thought i was just gonna have it i was just gonna take it easy i thought I was just going to have it. I was just going to take it easy. I thought it was like, all right, I'm just going to regroup. I'm take, I'll take some time off, start building the next special slowly. And then I was just like fucking YouTube and TikTok and all this shit, as much as we shit on it.
Starting point is 02:28:55 Like that shit jumped my career up where I was like, fuck, I can't really take a break now. Cause like I'm selling tickets like I never have sold before. And it was just kind of the thing where I was planning on just taking a lot of time off. How long were you going to take off? I was just going to focus on stand-up and try and get healthier. Kind of like that year that I was dreaming about. And it was like the summer that I spent with my brother. I thought it was going to be three months.
Starting point is 02:29:17 It ended up being like four weeks. Well, here's one thing you can do. You can hold yourself accountable by talking about it publicly. That's true. On your podcast. that's true on your podcast that's true and when you do something like that it's one of the things that i find whenever we do these sober october things we tell everybody what we have to do every day yeah and then we're held accountable yeah yeah yeah yeah and then like you say you have a goal and you work towards that goal and people get to see it and then they can become invested in it and
Starting point is 02:29:40 they root for you that's true and so i feel like for podcasts for comics in this day and age i feel like it's just as important as social media if not more important to have a podcast it's like even if you only like talk about shit that you think about in the news like something wacky goes down yeah you know kanye west says he loves hitler or you know right something hilarious to see somebody make alex jones uncomfortable yeah some wild shit goes down in the world that you didn't expect
Starting point is 02:30:08 and you could talk about it and you know just do it on a regular basis and people enjoy it and it doesn't have to be long and it doesn't have to have guests
Starting point is 02:30:17 in fact Bill Burr one of my favorite podcasts ever no guest Tim Dillon one of my favorite ever very rarely does he have a guest on yeah most of the just him and his producer and you you develop a style
Starting point is 02:30:31 of talking shit that is very entertaining for sure and it helps your writing it did I know it helps Tim's and I and Bill says it helps his too because you're you're constantly ranting about stuff and every now and then you can take those rants extract them them, and especially Dylan, because Dylan is essentially doing a one audience member show. It's insane. Yeah, yeah. It's wild.
Starting point is 02:30:51 And it's massively improved his stand up. Yeah. But also improved the amount of people that are coming to see him because of the podcast. It's like all these things work in synergy and everybody wants to get on a show, right? Get on a show. It's great. You get a paycheck. You can do that yourself.
Starting point is 02:31:06 I think that's over. No, I really think YouTube and podcasts are so much. I have friends who are on TV, and it does not really change your life. Well, you become a part of a system, right? And you have to work on this thing that the system is creating. And your other stuff is all on the side now. And it's not as lucrative as it used to be you know like it used to be it made sense because it's like yeah you get that fucking
Starting point is 02:31:28 you get that fucking check you're good well it used to be if you became uh the person who the sitcom was named after like roseanne or seinfeld that's the fucking yeah top of the mountain yeah yeah that's that's true then you're set for life. Yeah. I mean, I think what I like doing on this one, so it's Stabby's World. It came out of like, I was doing an advice show over the pandemic because I wanted, I didn't feel like I was near an audience. So I did it on Twitch. So it was live and people would call in and I wouldn't screen, I wouldn't screen the calls. I had a producer. And so I would just respond to whatever questions people were asking off the top of my head. And it was like, I got to kind of experience a live show. I got to kind of do crowd work and there's, you know, 600 people watching on Twitch and it felt kind of nice. And then I realized I
Starting point is 02:32:14 kind of liked it. Like I liked the like advice part of it. I liked kind of, you know, sharing my perspective with people. And then I would interview my friends, you know, comedians are all fucking, they have some kind of mental illness, some kind of hang up something. So it was always fun to interview a friend for like a half hour, talk about their shit and then get into it with the, and then just roast, you know, voicemails or whatever. And it's a fun, it's a fun little, like lovingly shit on your friend, lovingly shit on your callers and like, you know, and then also give, try and give some good advice and so i'm excited for it and it's cool you know it's like it's you know it'll be a good i got my best
Starting point is 02:32:50 friend like who i grew up with to be the producer he doesn't know nice he has no idea how to do anything perfect so it's like you know he's fucking shit up but he's learning really good but it's fun it's really fun and the last show was super great too we had a we had a blast and we we made some hilarious stuff but it's also like you want to be doing the next thing, and you want to always kind of be evolving a little bit. So I'm looking forward to it. Well, you got a good attitude, dude. It's smart, and I'm glad you're doing it again.
Starting point is 02:33:12 I think everybody should. I mean, if you want to. It doesn't mean that you don't have to. I mean, there's a lot of great comics that don't have one. Yeah. Business-wise also, it's just like. It's smart. It's just you got to do it.
Starting point is 02:33:22 So Stavi's World, go subscribe, everybody. And it's on everything? It's on everything.avi's world go subscribe everybody and it's on everything so on everything it's on YouTube it's on Spotify whatever Sam Earl was our first guest our second guest the are you garbage guys I don't know if you know them they're very funny nice they're really great and then a lot of great people you know soda Joe list is that Ryan long are you garbage no no that's his I forget what Ryan's it's Ryan's who are you garbage is uh foley and kevin ryan nice philly guys very funny guys but yeah there's a lot of good ones out there now
Starting point is 02:33:52 it's a it's a fun time for comedy because comics like there's a there's a gang of us out there where we communicate with each other we do each other's podcasts we do shows together it's like it's a rare time. Yeah, it's fun. It's an interesting time. It almost feels like everyone is reinventing a network. You know what I mean? It just feels like we're reinventing everything.
Starting point is 02:34:16 Like you were saying, you were just getting blasted on a fucking MacBook 12 years ago, and look at this shit. We're in a compound. There's fucking bidets in your bathroom I didn't have to shit I just put my ass on it to just be clean for the pot like I was like we're it's fucking moved and like even YouTube
Starting point is 02:34:33 I kind of feel like I just kind of started throwing my shit up there just to see what would happen to prep To prep for the special coming out and it's like now it's like there's a legit audience and now I get to do fun stuff Like make a workout series with my brother and like, you know, that's not strictly stand-up, but it's like now it's like there's a legit audience and now I get to do fun stuff like make a workout series with my brother. And like, you know, that's not strictly stand up, but it's funny. You do anything you want, man. It's pretty fun. If you're into fucking baseball cards, it doesn't matter. Do whatever the fuck you want.
Starting point is 02:34:56 And that's the thing about the world that we're living in now. There's so much more freedom of expression, even though people are trying to clamp down on it and everyone's talking about censorship. And there's a lot of that, too. But that just seems to be a part of the natural human experience. Like when people get into positions of power, they want to silence opposing voices. Those voices bother them. It doesn't matter if it's Republicans or Democrats. People constantly do it. And they always want to blame the left is always censoring.
Starting point is 02:35:24 And then the right is always. Yeah, yeah, yeah it's it seems like it's a fucking normal human thing to do and the internet is like one of the rare times ever right we're like a break in the dam yeah and just well that's what i do think that's true where it's like you can like you can fucking find your even if there's someone who's trying to quote quote, cancel you or whatever, it's like, look at Shane or look at whatever. It's like, you can figure it out. A lot of people, like, you know, have a career despite those attempts or whatever. And it's like, I've said some fucked up shit as a joke. I get, you know, maybe some people try and cancel me, but it's like, I'm trying to build my own audience and I'm trying to just like, you know.
Starting point is 02:36:01 You're also doing comedy live, right? And if you're talking shit, you take chances. And sometimes you don't even realize what you're saying while you're saying it. You're trying to be funny. Yeah, totally. Patrice had a great line about that. It's like a joke that bombs and a joke that kills all comes from the same place. Right, interesting.
Starting point is 02:36:19 The person's just trying to be funny. Yeah, that's true. That's true. It's the intention of it. The intention is never to hurt someone. Yeah, and you do have to, like, you know, you have to what did Chris Rock say? That there was like a real racist, there's been racist versions of
Starting point is 02:36:32 all his jokes or something like that when he was figuring them out. Well, Chris, that one bit that became one of his best bits ever, that I love black people, but I hate N-word. Sure, sure. That bit is a fantastic bit, and apparently, like, he struggled with that bit for a long time before he got it to work. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 02:36:49 Because sometimes when you have a complicated idea in your head. Of course. You're like, how do I get this fucking thing to work? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can almost bail on it, and then it becomes, like, your closing bit. Louie said something where he had, like, the joke about, it's like molesting children. had like a the joke about molest it's like molesting children or it's like we we people would like survive if they didn't or more children survive if like um if we if we didn't we're so mean to child molesters which is like it's like an interest it's even him even saying that i'm
Starting point is 02:37:18 like god damn but it would have been interesting to see you know yeah uh you know where the bit went i suppose um but yeah i do think like i do think there's a freedom to do whatever you want. Didn't that bit make it on a special? I'm not sure. I think that bit might have made it on a special. I just remember talking about it back in the day. Yeah. I think he might have actually figured out a way to make that work.
Starting point is 02:37:39 Interesting. Yeah. But he could do that. That's what he likes to do too that was yeah i do think that like you should have that leeway but i also think like sometimes it's it is like i do think like you should be able to say whatever you want but it's also like using nuclear weapons where it's like yeah chris rock can do it but not every fucking open mic or can do it you know what i mean it's like that's what they learn how to do? They learn how to do it by stumbling.
Starting point is 02:38:05 They learn how to do it by trying. But with easier stuff, right? Right. But they don't know that while they're doing it. It's like, you wouldn't spar fucking, you know,
Starting point is 02:38:13 you wouldn't spar with BJ Penn to learn. You know what I mean? But here's the thing, you might have to. If you're in a jujitsu class, the point is, if you're a comic, but if you're a comic and you're on stage,
Starting point is 02:38:23 you don't know what the fuck you're doing. You don't have a coach. You don't have a trainer. No one's showing you how to do it. And if you're a dumb kid and you're 21 years old and you have this complicated idea in your head, you think you're going to figure out how to make funny in front of these people. But you fall flat on your face. You should still try it. That's how you learn.
Starting point is 02:38:40 You learn by fucking up. Yeah. I would say keep it to like – but you do have this epidemic of like young kids who think they're ready for the big shit. Oh, my God. And it's like you're not, bro. You didn't feel like that when you were young? I guess that's true. You talked about how you did.
Starting point is 02:38:53 I guess that's true. But I guess I didn't drop any N-bombs. I'll put it that way. You know what I mean? Like that's – I did. But I was talking about wiping my own ass and, you know, how little my – still the same ideas. But everybody's delusional about their ability. Yes, for sure.
Starting point is 02:39:07 And for young guys coming up, you have all this testosterone and fucking zero clue on how the world works yet, and you start making a living doing comedy, or you start doing open mics and getting laughs, and you think you're profound. Yeah, absolutely. You know, like... Absolutely. There's a lot of people that pretend to be profound. Pretending to be profound on stage. One of the worst things of all time. One know, like- Absolutely. There's a lot of people that pretend to be profound. Pretending to be profound on stage.
Starting point is 02:39:26 One of the worst things of all time. One of the most painful things. I do, I just in general don't like making a point. I like telling a funny story, you know? It's more fun to not make a point. Yeah. And a lot of people love that. You know, look, we talked about it the other day about Bill Hicks.
Starting point is 02:39:39 Like, Bill Hicks was, like, such a revolutionary comedian because, like, all he had was points. Like, everything was, like everything It's like intense points But it fucked a lot of people up because a lot of young dorks Imitated him fully and they tried to include I definitely probably did I definitely had some pontificating Joe I definitely had some nonsense that I fucking tried. I was 20 because when I first saw him I was 21 I was like super impressionable. I was an open mic er Yeah, there was a bunch of those guys that you'd see and you'd found yourself sounding like them.
Starting point is 02:40:06 Absolutely. Like, Patrice would call them babies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, Patrice got so many babies all around town. Oh, Patrice,
Starting point is 02:40:12 for generations. Generations had babies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Robin Harris had a lot of babies. There was a lot of people that imitated Robin Harris when he was at the top in LA
Starting point is 02:40:21 back in the 90s. There's a bunch of those guys that are like super influential, very charismatic people, and everybody just, Brody Stevens. People would talk like Brody. A lot of people were doing Kinane in Brooklyn when I was coming up. There's a lot of Kinanes going on. There's a lot of people that did Stan Hope.
Starting point is 02:40:40 Oh, without question. A lot of people did Stan Hope. Yeah. I mean, there was times where I was just like I couldn't. There were some comedians that I didn't want to watch because I didn't want to like. Like Sean Patton's a great example of somebody. He's got a special out. Everybody should go see it on Peacock.
Starting point is 02:40:51 But like, I was just like, I loved Sean and I wanted to get how free he is on stage. But I was just like, at a certain point, I was like, I don't think I can watch him because I'll just steal his swag. You know what I mean? Yeah, you got to be careful. Like you steal his like fun, like his energy. And that's you got to be careful. Like, you steal his, like, fun, like, his energy. And that's another thing with stand-up is, like, energy is part of it. Like, vibe is part of it, you know?
Starting point is 02:41:11 Yep, yep. And so, I don't know. I try and just do my own. Vibe is definitely part of it. There's a lot going on up there, man. I always say it's kind of like a mass hypnosis. It's like everybody, like, if a great comic's on stage, if you're on stage and you're killing, I'm letting you think for me.
Starting point is 02:41:25 Right, true. I'm just sitting here like this if you're on stage and you're killing, I'm letting you think for me. Right, true. I'm just sitting here like this and you're telling me these stories and all I'm doing is like letting you think for me. You're telling me, I'm listening to what you're saying, I'm getting the picture, I'm just going along on this ride. Yeah. And when someone can do that to a large group of people, it's very similar to a kind of hypnosis. It's a laughter hypnosis. Yeah, no, absolutely. of people it's very similar to a kind of hypnosis it's a laughter hypnosis yeah no absolutely it's like it and what's what's beautiful about it too is that like it's not every show is different
Starting point is 02:41:52 that's what i love like a couple things that you you were talking about earlier where it's like you are basically self-taught you can't really you could take a class but it's not really not only that no one teaches it like you yeah like you know kurt mesker's not going to teach a class you know of course mark norman's not going to teach a class, you know. Of course. Mark Norman's not going to teach a class. Yeah, right, right, right, right. That's a great point.
Starting point is 02:42:09 The people that teach classes aren't usually people that did so good at it in the first place. Exactly. And it's like you want to, it's like they teach you to take the mic out of the stand and put the mic away. But it's like you really just have to, there is no solution other than get on stage as much as possible. You can get some advice from your peers. That's helped me a lot. Advice from my peers has helped me a lot. But no one can tell you how to do it because the way you do it is different than the way Ari does it.
Starting point is 02:42:32 It's different than the way Shane does it. You've got to kind of do it with your vibe. And the other thing I really love is that fucking every show is different. You'll never be in that room. Those people will never be in the same room ever again yeah that shit rocks i love that and if people have their phones in those yonder bags man they're in the moment they're really they're really there i really liked yeah comedy works great club they do that it's so good to do man every club should do it it changes the vibe
Starting point is 02:42:59 of the show you're right people are way more present oh they're way more present they're not distracted at all by their phones and the comic comics more free because you could fuck around on stage more right? It's it's the whole thing is better. Yeah, it's we're living in a strange time for comedy, but it's a really good time There's so many good. I think it's the best. Yeah It's a I think it's like a golden era for up-and-coming talent And I don't even I don't even think it's a big deal to like I know maybe there's a philosophical difference I don't even think it's a big deal. Maybe there's a philosophical difference. I don't even think it's a big deal to be a little restrained in what, like, because I think you can become funny around, like, societal constraints a little bit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:43:33 You certainly can. It's a challenge for sure. It's a challenge. Jerry Seinfeld used to say that about being clean. Right. That it is a challenge to make a really funny joke clean. Yeah. Whereas, like, a lot of people, especially back then, they felt like swearing was somehow or another. Cheap. Like, cheap. It was a cop clean. Yeah. Whereas like a lot of people, especially back then, they felt like swearing
Starting point is 02:43:46 was somehow or another Cheap. Like cheap. It was a cop out. Yeah. Which is interesting and I subscribe to that philosophy because that's how I grew up.
Starting point is 02:43:54 Like I started out in those clubs where I thought I was a loser because I liked Dice Clay and Sam Kinison. I like Richard Pryor. I like these guys who swore all the time.
Starting point is 02:44:03 Yeah, Richard Pryor was a man of course. But there's a value to learning how to construct a joke without swears. Yeah. So that when you fully express yourself where you normally would with swears, it's better. Yeah. Because the joke stands by itself. We watched Kinison do his first Letterman the other day.
Starting point is 02:44:17 We did a Protect Our Parks. Oh, hell yeah. And when we were watching it, we were like, look how good this guy is. And it's no swears. He's doing Letterman. I mean, that's an energy guy where you're like, fuck, dude, this rules. He was from another planet. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:31 Like, no, dude, that guy, when he first came around, he changed comedy. He was the first guy that I ever saw do comedy where I was like, maybe I could do comedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I thought comedy was like these guys that were sort of like rolled up sleeves, which is where I dressed like that when I first started. I thought I'd dress like that. I had a blazer on and shit, a funny t-shirt. I was such a dork.
Starting point is 02:44:50 Oh, fuck yeah. A little twink Joe in the blazer. A little cheetah guy. But I was trying to imitate what a comedian was. Of course. I saw Kinison and it made me think like, okay, maybe there's other ways to do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I saw Dennis Leary and I saw Hicks and I saw a lot of these guys.
Starting point is 02:45:08 Okay, comedy is a lot of things. Yeah. It's like you get a confused idea what comedy is. And then luckily I started out in Boston and all of those guys I talked about, Lenny Clark and Don Gavin, they were all coke snorting, big giant guys who got in barroom brawls. I'm like, oh, this is comedy too. Like, whoa. Well, Boston had a very, I mean, because I was definitely a little fucking comedy nerd. So it's like, you know, it was one of the places that early had a very defined local scene with a lot of really good talent where it's like, and you see it.
Starting point is 02:45:40 You see who comes out of there from that era. To this day, I've seen people kill harder in Boston at these local clubs, these local guys like Steve Sweeney, than I have any. No one's killed harder. It's like they've killed as hard as you can kill. Right, right. They've maxed it out. It doesn't get hard.
Starting point is 02:45:54 You get just as good. And I've seen guys do just as good. Right. But they killed so hard. And Kevin Meaney, he's another guy from Boston. I saw him watch a cast-arising star with my friend from high school we went and sat there and I couldn't believe how funny it was didn't make sense to me yeah I didn't understand it's like you know like he would do this thing about big pants
Starting point is 02:46:15 people that's not right he was so comfortable yeah and so in the groove like it was so funny it was i was perplexing yeah i remember me and my friend diane we left there we were like how how was he so funny how was someone so funny yeah it's like for an hour and 15 minutes he just destroyed yeah it's incredible and you know i'm trying to like and you try it's nice because you get to just chase that you're like i gotta get that funny and it's like you just gotta just get better every time you try just keep trying to get better And then you're on a path and then you'll look back like Dom I rare said it to me once he goes the beautiful thing about comedy is you can just keep getting better if you keep working
Starting point is 02:46:57 On it right. It's not like a baseball player where your knees go like you can keep doing it. You can keep getting better He's like I'm so happy and you know Dom like, in his late 60s when he was telling this. He's like, I'm so happy I'm a comic. I mean, a tell, you see that with a tell. Yeah. Because it's like, he's the fucking man. Better than ever. It's just like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:12 He's better than ever. He's a monster. And I do think sometimes it can be hard as you advance to continue to stay better. Because, like, because you have, like, he has the discipline to, like, he treats it like, like, dude, I open for him. And, like, he, if something, if he missed, like, a little thing, you could tell he fucking hated it. If he wasn't doing 100 out of 100, it was, like, a fucking problem. And it's, like, but he does, that's the other thing. It's, like, he thinks he messed something up in his mind.
Starting point is 02:47:41 He didn't. It was fucking great. He's the fucking man. And you just see him work on his shit day after day. Like the biggest thrill for me when I moved to New York was being on a show with fucking Dave Attell. When I'm at the stand and it's the late show and he's coming in. You just see this guy. He's working on something.
Starting point is 02:47:57 He's killing harder. And he's just like he has the discipline to like not let being Dave Attell like go to his head. Well, the opposite. It goes the opposite. He fucking hates himself because of that. He's his own harshest critic. That's why he's so good. That's why he's so good,
Starting point is 02:48:14 because he's so harsh on himself and his delivery and his material. Gillis is like that, too. Gillis is like, I don't know, I want a phone to do this George Washington bit. Shut the fuck up. It's one of the best bits ever. What are you talking about? But it's like
Starting point is 02:48:27 that's why he's so good because he's fucking hard on himself. The guys that are like we were when we were younger, when you get delusional, you think you get a headline, you have 15 minutes. That's not what you're supposed to be. You're supposed to be the opposite. You're supposed to be like, oh, the more you learn, the more terrified you get. For sure. And that's how you become a fucking, the more you learn, the more terrified you get. For sure. And that's how you become a fucking, you know, an all-time great when you have that kind of work ethic. But, you know, that's like Giannis at the Dekumbo where he's like he works hard as fuck and he's the MVP. But I don't know, man.
Starting point is 02:48:55 I could just be a little – you know, I don't want to work that hard. Like I just want to have a good time also. You don't have to work that hard. The thing is it's like doing what you're doing. I want to be like Shaq. Do what you do but keep doing it. It's not that you have to work that hard. The thing is, it's like doing what you're doing. I want to be like Shaq. Do what you do, but keep doing it. It's not that you have to work that hard. Just do it to your level of enjoyment.
Starting point is 02:49:10 Like there's a balancing act. If you become so obsessed that you spend all your time doing it, and then you become this miserable person who's really successful, that's not a success. Because you're unhappy. So there's like a balance. Like how much effort do you want to put in versus how much do you want to get out of it? And and you got to figure out what that is to keep you normal
Starting point is 02:49:27 Yeah, I just want to I want me. I just do a bunch of other shit, too Yeah, that's that's how I keep from going nuts. I do other things that I enjoyed That's why podcasts help me right because I'll do this too, right? Then I do comedy too, and then I do the UFC too. I do also in having these different things I keep my mind occupied in different ways. Yeah. So it doesn't get burnt out. Have you always been like hyperactive?
Starting point is 02:49:49 Like, have you always been doing like five different things? Is that always how you were? Like, coming up? Usually I just do one thing. But too crazy. Right. So I realized as I got older, like, I need other things. I can't have just one thing.
Starting point is 02:50:00 I'm too crazy. So that's, okay. It's like directing my crazy and manageable doses. Right. Because one thing, like video games, I used to get addicted to quick. And I would play eight hours a day. Hell yeah, dude. I wouldn't stop.
Starting point is 02:50:12 I was addicted. It was a real problem. That's fucking hilarious. It was a real problem. And I get like that with martial arts. I get like that with a lot of things. Interesting. For me, I have to have other stuff.
Starting point is 02:50:22 Okay. That makes sense. So if I have like i could get addicted like that to comedy and that's great but the problem is like mentally when i get addicted to something i get like super obsessed right and it becomes the only thing i want to concentrate on and so i'm thinking about it when i'm doing other stuff and i'm talking to people i'm really thinking about comedy or i'm really thinking about martial arts whatever the fuck the thing is at the time it's like for me, the balancing act is having multiple interests.
Starting point is 02:50:45 Interesting, yeah. That's just for me, though. No, that makes sense. Everybody's got their own weird way of managing. I definitely get locked into one thing at a time, and I have a hard time switching gears. So we're launching the podcast, and I hadn't done stand-up in a couple weeks,
Starting point is 02:50:59 and now I'm about to do, we were just trying to get everything figured out and recording some pods, because I also want to take January off, so you've got to bank some. And so i was just in that mode and now it's like it does take me a while i feel like to shift gears to like get into like stand-up mode like that's why the tour next year so it starts in february and then we're going to go until may almost the only thing i'm focusing on is stand-up because um i want to record a special at the end of that and then it's like okay that's over now I can kind of like shift gears and maybe you
Starting point is 02:51:30 know do a little you write a script do act I mean I want to act I want to do that shit too but it's like I definitely I'm definitely in that mode where I'm like I'm just addicted to something right now that's awesome you know that's awesome to these you're stating it publicly they work so then people be on your side. They'll be with you while you're doing this. Yes fun. Yeah. Yeah, it's fun It's fun to put that out there and it also like it holds you accountable It makes it's very difficult to do things just decide well I'm gonna do this every day because like if you don't like have a fucking list of shit that you have to get done Yeah, it's so easy to blow stuff off. And also it's like when your fucking brain is all fucked I don't know if you feel like you have to get done. Yeah. It's so easy to blow stuff off. And also it's like when your fucking brain
Starting point is 02:52:05 is all fucked. I don't know if you feel like you have ADD or whatever, but it's like, I definitely feel it. Like, I just, every time I look up an article that's like, you know,
Starting point is 02:52:13 do you have, it's like every part of it, it's like, I have that, I have that, I have that. Let's look it up. Look up. How do you know if you have ADD? What are the symptoms of ADD, Jamie?
Starting point is 02:52:22 Because my boy, Ben O'Brien, he's the fucking man. I know a Ben O'brien i bet they're different guys probably different guy pretty common it's like no it's the same hunter in montana yeah not that he's not the producer of my online content my creative producer no he's the man ben is so fucking funny um but ben's got like he um he has no ad like every artist i feel like every like so many comedians have that shit and Ben just doesn't. And he was telling me like you definitely have this. I was like no. Well, let's find out what it is.
Starting point is 02:52:52 I'm just a little scared. What are the symptoms of ADD, young Jamie? Let's go for children and teenagers, I guess. Well, let's do it for that. Yeah. He's a teenager at heart. Yeah. Let's see what we got here.
Starting point is 02:53:04 Having a short attention span and being easily distracted. Check. Yep. Making careless mistakes, for example, in schoolwork. Check. Appearing forgetful or losing things. Check. Being unable to stick to tasks that are tedious or time consuming.
Starting point is 02:53:17 Without question. Triple check. Yeah. Appearing to be unable to listen to or carry out instructions. Nah, I can do that pretty good. I'm not that good at that. Constantly changing activity or task. Check.
Starting point is 02:53:28 Having difficulty organizing tasks. Check. Organizing is the mother fucker. Hyperactive and impulsiveness. And then executive dysfunction, whatever that shit is. Being unable to sit still, especially in calm or quiet surroundings. I don't have that. Constantly fidgeting.
Starting point is 02:53:41 I kind of have that when I'm sitting here doing podcasting, but that's just because I'm trying to be aware of my posture and shit. Oh, nice. Yeah, I like these chairs. They're good. Ergonomic. Yeah, they're really good. These are the only ones that I've ever found that are both comfortable and they keep me from having a sore back. Because like office chairs, you kind of sit in a fucked up way and the middle of my back would be tight at the end of a show. Excessive talking. For sure I have that. Clearly. Excessive physical movement. 100% I have that.
Starting point is 02:54:10 I'm very excessive. So you're a child with ADD, bro. Being unable to wait their turn. No, I'm not that bad at that. I've gotten better at that. But that's what we were talking about earlier. Acting without thinking. 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:19 Interrupting conversations. That's me. Little or no sense of danger. I'm not so good at that. I kind of so good at that But kind of also not yeah, yeah, I mean I'm I'd say I'm medium good Yeah, so I have everything you got like two or three things. Yeah, yeah, but I just feel like I can't so I should be I need the list. Yeah, you probably should I be on forgetful. Okay carelessness or laugh. Now. This is a detail Continuing starting new tech. What was the one forget Continuing, sorry, what was the one, forgetfulness?
Starting point is 02:54:47 Which one do you, was there more of them? Were you doing that as a bit? You're like, what was that one, forgetfulness? Oh, is there more of them? This is for adults. This is for adults. Oh, this one's for adults. I just kept scrolling down.
Starting point is 02:54:56 Okay, so carelessness and lack of attention to detail, not necessarily. I pay attention to things that I'm concentrating on. Yeah. I'm very detail-oriented with actually things I'm trying to do well. But I think that's the flip side. Like, I was listening to Brian Koppelman's podcast. He was talking about how ADD can be, like, a fucking superpower because sometimes you're so locked in. And he was talking about how, like, when he was writing his, you know, like, his first script, it was like he wanted to do it so bad.
Starting point is 02:55:23 And sometimes I feel that way too, where I'm in the fucking zone, you know? When I really want to get something done, where I'm writing, you know, like a script I really care about, or I'm working on a joke that I really want to get done. And I feel like when I'm in that zone, I'm like, I'm the fucking smartest man alive.
Starting point is 02:55:38 I feel like I'm on limitless. Here's the question. Is this really a disease? Or is it a problem only because human beings are trying to interface with a complex modern society that doesn't match their genetics yeah maybe like what is it I mean there's gotta be some benefit
Starting point is 02:55:54 to being locked into some things and being distracted by shit you don't give a fuck about yeah then you if you were a hunter that would help you because you would concentrate only on the thing you're trying to do and you would ignore a bunch of other shit that's probably important but in your mind not as interesting yeah yeah i think like but i also think i i also think some people just don't have that though where they can just pay attention to surroundings some people are just scattered like
Starting point is 02:56:17 yeah just being scattered and ultimately it's like at the end of the day it's like what am i gonna do now i'm fucking 33 i'm not like you know yeah but it's helping you with comedy is my point probably yeah 100% dude listen that's the thing well that's why I think a lot of people who end up in comedy or certain artistic fields or something do have that because it's like but that's the thing is that really a disease then
Starting point is 02:56:38 because that's got a great benefit to it it just seems like a manageable asset well it's like you know Boban Marjanovic has got gigantism or whatever but it is a disease but it still makes him a good center Andre the Giant you know what I mean like so it is but it also could help you out you know yeah where it's like well that's that's a different thing right because I think ADD is like super fucking common yeah probably but but is it real it's their personality but is there did any debate
Starting point is 02:57:04 as to whether or not ADD is actually a disease? I mean, are there people out there that say, no, this is like a natural function of the way some people's brains work? And some people's brains are not designed to focus on tasks they're not interested in. But if they focus on something they are interested in, they can get really good at it. But sometimes you don't even do that. Yeah, but there's a fucking spectrum of dummies and intelligent people that we have to acknowledge. That's a good point. We don't have to set standards for every fucking human being regardless of how low their IQ is.
Starting point is 02:57:31 I'm just saying for average human beings, isn't it possible that that's an asset? Yeah. Is there a debate on that? There probably is. Yeah, let's see what they say. The ADHD community. Are some people thinking that ADD is not actually a disease? I'm sure plenty.
Starting point is 02:57:45 I wonder who's right. But sometimes I'll take a fucking Adderall or whatever just if I have some shit to do and I'm like, oh, this rocks. Yeah, but that's amphetamines. Of course it rocks. There's a reason why it's so goddamn addictive. That's hilarious. It's addictive. It rocks.
Starting point is 02:58:03 It's not addictive because it sucks. That's a good point. All. It's addictive. It rocks. It's not addictive because it sucks. That's a good point. All that stuff that's addictive is awesome. Yeah. Except maybe gambling. But if you win, it's awesome. But when you win, that's a fucking nice one. All of it's awesome.
Starting point is 02:58:13 There's a reason why people get addicted to things. They're addicted to things that give them that crazy dopamine rush, whatever the fuck it is. I never got into gambling because I think I got out of it at a young age. Because we gambled in Greek town. I grew in Baltimore grew up in Greek town it was like I think two of my friends growing up just happened to be like compulsive game like we had a bookie when we were like 14 like all in football games you ever talked to Diaz about it no no my Diaz was a bookie well really yeah Diaz Diaz used to answer phones, used to place calls. Yeah, he looks like he's a bookie. Yeah, he knew bookies.
Starting point is 02:58:48 He worked in offices. Yeah. Yeah, he's the real deal. No, so I got out of that. Good for you, man, because that's a scary one. I've seen people lose their lives to gambling. It's wild to see. That's a tough one.
Starting point is 02:59:00 It's wild to see people who can't stop going to the casino. It's wild to see people who can't stop going to the casino. It's wild to see people who can't stop going betting on cards or horses. When I moved to New York in like 92, 91, 92, whenever it was, I started hanging out at this pool hall. And this pool hall was filled with degenerate gamblers. I was never around those kind of people when I was younger. Totally. gamblers. I was never around those kind of people when I was younger. And all of a sudden, as like a 23-year-old, I'm hanging around with these fucking animals that just all would lie to each other. And they were all stealing money. And they were all gambling. A bunch of guys had just gotten out of jail. It was the wildest place to hang out. Because I got to be exposed to this
Starting point is 02:59:40 group. It was mostly like bachelor men who didn't have kids who didn't fit in with regular society and they were at this place where they all just hung out together with other men they smoke cigarettes and talk shit and gambled the place was open till two o'clock in the morning and yeah it was a wild experience for me as like a pretty fucking naive 23 year old because you're just coming out of like you know fucking college or whatever not even for me i was martial arts i was fighting so i went from that damn that you started to do stand up yeah so just started to do stand up when i was 21 and then all of a sudden i was around these fucking people that's a world of discipline yes and then you go to like fucking degenerates just
Starting point is 03:00:20 full degenerates i couldn't believe i'd never been around people that were addicted to gambling it was wild There were so many of them. Yeah, they're betting on coin flips They were always losing and winning and losing and winning and fucking day. I almost fucking had a Mr. Fucking nine ball that table's not level all these arguments Yeah, oh my god. It was crazy. It was just but these people were renegades They were like this part of society that I didn't know existed. People that never felt like they fit in anywhere.
Starting point is 03:00:49 And they found this one thing and they hung out there together. Yeah. Yeah, I could definitely see that. I mean, the Greek town, there's like a bunch of like these, the coffee houses that like old Greek guys just hang out. Drink coffee, talk shit, throw dice. Yeah, just avoid their families. You know what I mean? Like, just fucking hang out.
Starting point is 03:01:07 Well, there was thousands of those places in New York City at the turn of the century. At the turn of the century in New York City, I think there was close to a thousand pool halls. Damn. That was where men, bachelor men used to go. And this is, like, after the war. You know, like— The way you're describing it sounds 100% like they're sucking each other off. Probably were.
Starting point is 03:01:27 These bachelor men. The Romans did it. To clear your mind before doing some philosophy. Well, there was this pool was invented. The word pool is it refers to money. Pool your money together. Billiards is the game. The game is billiards or pocket billiards.
Starting point is 03:01:43 You know, the original game was three cushion billiards. And then they develop pocket billiards is the game. The game is billiards or pocket billiards. You know, the original game was three cushion billiards and then they developed pocket billiards mostly in America. And when you watch them play in pool, they're playing it for money. So all those guys
Starting point is 03:01:53 back in the day, like they were just these gambling addicts that lived in this time where they felt like they were outcasts of society and they were all over New York City.
Starting point is 03:02:02 Yeah, yeah. That's a fucking, you know. It was a wild culture to get exposed to as a young comic. Did you ever lose money? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was terrible. I wasn't good.
Starting point is 03:02:12 But you did gamble. I became pretty good. I became pretty good, but I became what's called like a B player. Most good players can beat me. So what was the like compulsion to be going there, just hanging out? Just the game was so exciting. Interesting. And to play for money
Starting point is 03:02:25 when you're when you're down on a ball and if you make it you win and if you you miss it you lose damn and that that feeling of the nerves and the excitement and the when you make it you win and tournaments played a lot of tournaments that's fun those are really fun because you get to match up like you could get a tournament and all of a sudden you're matched up with a world champion damn because they would play in like regular tournaments. Just to keep the fucking knives sharp. They always play. Like you can play.
Starting point is 03:02:49 And so they would make them handicapped. Like they would have to give you extra balls on the wire or extra games on the wire rather or extra balls in the game. But you would be able to play sometimes like straight up with a guy like Efren Reyes, the greatest pool player of all time. Damn. There's no time where you ever could play pick-up basketball against Michael Jordan. Right, right, right. But if you're a pool player, you could. There's no time where you ever could play pickup basketball against Michael Jordan. But if you're a pool player, you could enter into a local professional tournament and you could play Buddy Hall or Steve Miserak. Damn.
Starting point is 03:03:13 Crazy. Johnny Archer. It was amazing. There was this place called Hard Times that I used to go to when I first moved to L.A. And they had a Sunday tournament. And the Sunday tournament was all the top players in the world. These guys from the Philippines like Francisco Bustamante
Starting point is 03:03:28 and Dennis Arcolo. These names all sound fake but I love it. Oh man, they were the best. The Filipinos, man. There was a Filipino invasion where they came over here and just fucked everybody up. Filipinos are some of the greatest pool players of all time. Good for them.
Starting point is 03:03:43 It's crazy, the GIs brought pool to the Philippines in the 1950s. And then the Filipinos mastered that shit. Also because they're playing outside. So they have, like, all this moisture on the table. They have fucked up tables that are out of balance. So they just developed the best strokes. That's sick. They know how to, like, really stroke through the ball.
Starting point is 03:04:02 Best position play. That's great. Dude. Take that, GIs. They came over here and changed the game. Efren Reyes, he came over here under a fake name. Came over here under the name Cesar Morales and started robbing everybody. Came over from the Philippines unknown with a fake name.
Starting point is 03:04:19 That rocks, dude. And just was robbing everybody. Just making a fortune, just hustling people. People just couldn't believe how good he was. Yeah. This dude, they call him the magician. And how long did you, do you still play pool? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:04:30 I have two tables here. I'll show you afterwards. I have two tables here. I play all the time. How'd you get started? Was it just? It just got started because I walked into that pool all that one day. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 03:04:38 Yeah. I mean, I'd played a couple of times with my friends and I had this ex-girlfriend that liked to play pool and we played a couple of times, but we were we didn't know what we're doing and then I walked in this pool hall and I watched guys play for money and I was like this is wild people are cheering and hollering and they're trying to gamble more yeah it was it was a crazy environment of like guys getting to do what they really enjoyed doing you know just I mean just having fun talking shit with each other not hindered by jobs that make you dress a certain way right or you know offices that make you talk a certain way these are just wild folk who didn't fit in yeah blowing some steam but unfortunately a lot of them were gambling
Starting point is 03:05:14 a lot of those guys had their shins broken a lot of them were drug addicts a lot of them were I was exposed to the world of like guys who use heroin and coke damn like everybody did something everybody was doing pills everybody was doing something
Starting point is 03:05:28 they were all doing drugs yeah the color of money is my only like you know that's all I know about
Starting point is 03:05:34 kind of there's moments in that movie where it's kind of maybe a little bit accurate not totally
Starting point is 03:05:39 it's just a great movie but it's like sometimes they don't nail the verisimilitude well they nailed it with... Do you ever see when Tom Cruise... Pull up the scene
Starting point is 03:05:47 Tom Cruise plays Grady Stevens in The Color of Money. Oh, hell yeah. I don't remember that one. This is why. This is important. The guy he's playing is really the best player in the world at the time. The guy he's playing is Keith McCready. They call him the Earthquake. Fuck yeah, dude.
Starting point is 03:06:03 Keith McCready. When he was young, dude, he made people quit pool. Guys would just lose $50,000, $100,000 to him. He was an assassin. Goddamn. Just an assassin out of California. And he played out of hard times billiards. And this motherfucker was legendary through the whole country for gambling.
Starting point is 03:06:22 And the way he played, he played with a sidearm stroke because he learned how to play pool when he was so small he couldn't reach the table. So he couldn't dangle his cue in a normal way. He had to do his sidearm. And he just kept it going his whole life. And he kept it that way his whole career. See if you can find that scene.
Starting point is 03:06:37 Tom Cruise plays Grady Stevens. So he plays this character in this movie who's the number one pool player in the world. What's interesting about it is he legitimately was. So when you watch him shoot the ball and move the ball around that's what like an elite top of the food chain assassin for money pool player looks like that's sick because that's what keith mccready was he was an assassin for money like guys would bet like shit tons of money and they'd be talking shit to you by screwing his queue together and like the stuff that he said in the movie was like stuff that he really would say to those guys and shit like do I mean like cuz you're a good
Starting point is 03:07:11 pool player you're not necessarily so this is that's Keith McCready oh wow the earthquake so this is him give me some volume on this so when you watch him play that's how a really, truly elite pool player looks. Like the difference between the control, but it's also the control that he has of the cue ball. It's like he can put that ball within a couple of inches anywhere he wants all over the table. He was a wizard. And so when you're watching him do this in this movie, it's 100% like it would be if he was really playing you. Just fucking shitting on him.
Starting point is 03:07:48 Just talking shit. You're getting your ass fucked. There's nothing you can do about it. The idea is that Tom Cruise has to play badly because he's playing Grady Stevens. So he has to lose so that the odds on him will be very low when he goes to a tournament because the word will get out that Grady robbed him. Right. So he's going to dump this money to Grady, which is all the shit that people really do. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:08:06 But then he gets mad. It's killing him inside. Yeah, because Grady's talking too much shit. Yeah. And so eventually Tom Cruise decides that he's going to talk shit back. Yeah, I mean, what I love about... Okay, this is a different...
Starting point is 03:08:21 This is when they're at the big tournament. What I love about this movie, too, is I had no idea about all the fucking actual pool shit. But it's, like, it's such an interesting movie from just the fucking film perspective. Because it's, like. Scorsese. Scorsese, when he's just, like, fuck it, I'll be a hired gun. Like, that wasn't his passion project.
Starting point is 03:08:36 He was just, like, I'm going to make a fucking sick movie. Yeah. And then you have fucking Tom. You have Tom Cruise. You have fucking, fuck, Paul Newman. Paul Newman. And it's it's like this beautiful like almost like passing of the torch yes there I love anytime like a career like the guys in the movies it really mirrors the characters or something so fucking awesome and poetic about right at the same
Starting point is 03:08:58 point in their lives is the fucking old piece of ass yeah fucking star and he's he's literally teaching as Tom Cruise is about to ascend yeah it's this star and he's he's literally teaching as tom cruise is about to ascend yeah it's this fuck and then you know paul newman would go on to have the whole his the later you know part where he plays great you know great roles the fucking verdict rules i remember those before or after this but just like i love that shit dude and it was like tom and just to see those guys just against each other for real as actors in the same way that their characters are going and it's like all of that directed by scorsese and it was all written by walter tevis who was the same guy who wrote the queen's gambit oh wow holy fuck yeah he also wrote the the hustler
Starting point is 03:09:36 the original paul newman jackie cleason great fucking movie he wrote that and he wrote the color money and he wrote the queen's gambit. Yeah, that's sick. Which is amazing. And yeah, it had another thing that I really like, which is like a weird unofficial sequel thing where it's like, it is a sequel, but it's like no one except Paul Newman. Yeah. Like I love when they just extend a story and it's done. Because like the odds of that working are so fucking low. Right. Especially with a star.
Starting point is 03:10:01 You got to bring in a star like Tom Cruise. Yeah, dude. It's fun. And they had to teach him how to play pool Yeah So they brought in Mike Siegel to teach him how to play pools one of the greatest pool players of all time and he's also Left-handed the way Tom Cruise is which is like really benefited him But he taught him how to play pool like I mean a version not as good of course as Mike Siegel
Starting point is 03:10:20 But a version of the way Mike plays interesting you watch like can watch Mike stroke, the way Mike moves balls around. And what's cool about, I guess we didn't know that, or I wasn't lying, but it's like, you didn't know that it wasn't clear about Tom Cruise at the time, where it's like, wow, that's really impressive that he would learn how to play pool. And now the motherfucker's jumping out of fucking jets. I know. He's a fucking lunatic. Dude, you don't know how hard it is to look like you can play pool.
Starting point is 03:10:43 Yeah. He looked like he could play pool. For sure. I mean, he really believed it. He hit a couple shots in the movie where it's like, that's fucking impressive. He figured out how to play pool pretty quickly, which is kind of amazing. Fascinating guy. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 03:10:55 Truly, truly a fascinating guy. Believing in Scientology seems to work for him. I'm not saying it's for everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's something about the way it worked for him dude and just how smart it was to go to do the Mission Impossible movies to kind of like his career kind of went to the next level in a strange
Starting point is 03:11:12 way yeah look at that shot that's beautiful look at that shot he really did that shit you saw it you saw it from the beginning to the end and he ran the table on certain racks what they did is basically they set balls up for him and they let him like have like fairly simple what you call connect the dots out but he did it still did it it's not fucking easy to do man yeah that guy flies jets
Starting point is 03:11:36 he jumps off buildings i'm telling you scientology seems to work for him and my favorite one of his is collateral too because it's like oh my god, I just watched that the other day. Dude, it's the fucking best. It was amazing. And it's like, because it's like there is a darkness to him that he keeps buttoned up
Starting point is 03:11:51 and he gets, when he gets to play the fucking assassin, the real evil guy, it's like, whoa, this is working in a way. Or Lestat from
Starting point is 03:11:59 Interview with the Vampire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Holy shit. That one's fucking, but this, Collateral. Lestat is awesome, but it's so, that that movie is so campy in certain ways where it's like you see flashes of the villain, but this shit is like he is...
Starting point is 03:12:13 It's Michael Mann who's the fucking best. He's a fucking hit man. Dude. And you 100% believe it. You believe it. You fully fucking believe it. It doesn't matter if that's that dude from The Outsiders. That is him.
Starting point is 03:12:24 Dude, it's fucking him. And just the way he behaves and I mean he's a bad motherfucker man. Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase? It's in the way he does it too man that was super smooth Yeah, you have to really practice to be able to draw and get off those shots Yeah, close range the way he did it looked completely believable. Yeah, yeah. That didn't look like, you know, there's scenes in a movie where a guy pulls a gun and he shoots the other guy and you're like, okay. Sure. I'll suspend disbelief.
Starting point is 03:12:52 This was John Wick before John Wick. Exactly. You know? Exactly. I mean, Michael Mann did that shit too with Heat. It's like they were fucking shooting machine guns, bro. You know, Heat was basic. Yes, dude.
Starting point is 03:13:01 Dude, this is the scene right here. Fuck. I love this scene. Oh, my God. This rocks. Bro. Jamie Foxx, like, 100% believable. It did look like,
Starting point is 03:13:27 he was like, I'm free. This guy's going to die, but at least I'll get to just call the cops. Dude, 100% believable, those movements. The way he did it,
Starting point is 03:13:35 knocked the guy's hand away with the gun while drawing. One more time. Bam, boom, boom, boom, boom,
Starting point is 03:13:40 boom. Goddamn. He knocks it away at the same time draws look at how he does this this is fucking wild shit man and he's also
Starting point is 03:13:48 got his gun on his hip so it's not even the quickest place to draw from and he shoots from the waist boom boom boom
Starting point is 03:13:57 while this other guy is drawn boom to the head come on so fucking sick tactical Jamie Fox yeah Scientology works for him for him it does it seems to work Head. Come on, son. So fucking sick. Tactical. Jamie Foxx. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:14:06 Scientology works for him. For him it does. It seems to work really well for him. Whatever his belief system is. 100%. That guy does races, motorcycles in his movies. He actually does his own stunts. They do a great job of certain high level talent.
Starting point is 03:14:22 They can really take you to the next level. But they let him ride motorcycles in a movie. Yeah, dude. He does stunts with cars and shit. He flew the jets. Dude. With a fucking Top Gun. This is dangerous shit.
Starting point is 03:14:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they let him do it. Yeah, I would just love to see him, because he's proven that he's a fucking action star. Proven that. A very unlikely action star, but earned it, right like not not like how like look i love taking i love the liam neeson turned action but it's like that's all
Starting point is 03:14:50 gravitas that's all he's not doing that he's not doing that he's doing it he's earned it in the way that it's like with with practical effects and stunts what is he doing there he's dropping a motorcycle off a cliff and then he's gonna parachute is Is that real? Oh my god. That's him. What the fuck, dude? Bro, stop it. Who's like that? Who's like that in all of history? Buster Keaton. He's a fucking lunatic, truly. Buster Keaton. That's so interesting.
Starting point is 03:15:15 He's a modern Buster Keaton. Buster Keaton was a fucking animal. Special effects were non-existent back then. There was no CGI. He's the fucking man for sure. Buster Keaton risked his life every time he did a movie. Every time he did a movie. That guy fucking rules.
Starting point is 03:15:33 Bro, you watch those old Buster Keaton highlights, you can't even believe that guy really did that. Look at this. He jumps from one fucking building to another. Look at this. Watch this shit. What the fuck? A full flight of stairs. And then goes through the railings and catches himself.
Starting point is 03:15:50 Planned it. Planned all that. So fucking sick. Bro, he planned that. I mean, that's incredible. He went through those fucking things. He's like, that'll stop my fall, and then I'll catch myself on the way down. And he did it.
Starting point is 03:16:03 I mean, that's what James Bond pretends to do. Do you know what I mean? And look at that. He really did get yanked away by that car. Like, this is actually happening. He really did grab that car and get yanked away. Just great choreography. He would grab all these things and just hang on.
Starting point is 03:16:20 Well, dude, that's the other thing. And that's why it's so... Look at this. I mean, what is that? That's awesome They didn't fucking string him up or anything with that shit How the fuck could he do that? No, you're right. What kind of strength did he have to do that? I mean he was a fucking unit. I mean he must have been a super unit
Starting point is 03:16:37 Yeah, that move right there what he had to do were hang on to the back of that train like that Yeah, how much strength is involved in that? Yeah. That's insane. That's like Cirque du Soleil strength. I do love watching old-ass movies because we have gotten so used to CGI and all that shit, and it's helpful for certain things, but it's like what you think is possible,
Starting point is 03:17:00 you're like, oh, we are fucking lazy. Or even just like how just like like the you know how fast they would like build they would make buildings and shit and But you just look at it. What does he got it was he got going on here? Yeah, it's just slowly just riding on the front of a train, but when you watch when you fall you die When you got those wooden stupid shoes on oh my god What it's gonna happen here You die. And you got those wooden stupid shoes on. Oh, my God. What is he going to do here? What is going to happen here?
Starting point is 03:17:27 Oh, that's sick. Jesus Christ. But, like, you see a movie from the fucking 30s. And you see the, like, the fucking, one of my favorite movies to just throw on sometimes is the old Robin Hood from the 30s. It's this fucking spectacle, dude, where they just have thousands of fucking extras. I haven't seen it. None of the, dude, it's fucking good. Forever. Robin Hood from the 30s. It's like none of that dude it's fucking forever robin hood from the 30s it's like for the yeah yeah it's errol flynn oh yeah i don't i mean i'm
Starting point is 03:17:50 sure i saw it when i was a kid but it's just like this thing where you're like your mind is like bro when they have these giant scenes where it's like you know a king and it's a jousting tournament they have like fucking hundreds of people in the stands today that's eight guys and they cgi it and and you fucking watch it. You watch, I mean, the fight scenes or whatever, don't get me wrong, but like the big spectacles of them
Starting point is 03:18:10 and like these huge sets and like when it's like, the thing that really fucking shocked me was the like, I think it was the jousting or maybe the archery competition. Is this colorized? It is colorized, yeah.
Starting point is 03:18:21 So the original was black and white, right? I would assume so, but I'm not sure. 38? just like look at how fucking many it's just like such a spectacle that you don't fucking get today the same thing with fucking um fuck what's the kurosawa mcbeth uh throne of blood that shit the yeah i mean that's another one where you're like god damn dude they were doing this shit and like now filmmaking is so everything's on a green screen and you're just like, the artistry is, like, that's what I'm saying. When you're penned in, when you have like limitations, you figure out how to fucking really do it. And you come with like real, I mean, they were, look at Buster Keaton, dude.
Starting point is 03:18:59 It's like he, I would rather watch a Buster Keaton highlight reel than the, whatever the Marvel movie that just came out is. You know what I mean? I'm with you up until we talk about Avatar. Yeah, I'm in on Avatar. Avatar was so good. I'm like, do your CGI. Do whatever you got to do. But that's a great example, though, because James Cameron, whatever, you know, he is a fucking, he pushes everything to the limit.
Starting point is 03:19:20 Yeah. Like, if he's doing CGI, it's going to take him 15 years and he's going to get every ounce of like spectacle out of it. Although- It's going to be incredible. I can't wait for that. Me and my, we have my brothers and a couple of like my closest friends. Well, not all my, anyway, we have like a-
Starting point is 03:19:36 What is your relationship with these people? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Me and four guys I found outside. I call my brothers. We have a, we're bonded in certain ways my brothers and like my best friends we we uh it's a rotating cast right but we we like to fucking get fucked up on christmas like uh we do like a bro's christmas and on top of the family stuff kind of like the friends giving version of christmas where we'll just take a psychedelic and
Starting point is 03:20:01 watch some out of control like you, you know, Star Wars. I've never seen the new Star Warses not on acid or mushrooms. And, dude, I love every, I don't have any idea what happens in them. My boy Babu Frick, I don't remember which one he's in. I was laughing like a fucking lunatic because I was just on acid and just a little fucking cute puppet. I'm like, like a little fucking kid. We get fucked up and we just watch fucking, yeah, there's my boy, dude.
Starting point is 03:20:26 See, I'm not even aware of him. I'm so far behind. Imagine being on an eighth of mushrooms. Oh my God, I can't. And this guy pops up in a crowded theater. You're like, oh, I love him. He's my favorite. Anyway.
Starting point is 03:20:38 Oh my God. We've done mostly Star Wars. We watched Tenet one year when it was like the pandemic. How can you follow that around when you're sober? Dude, I don't even... It's hard to... I have no idea what happened, but I was having a great time. It's pretty dope. We were just on acid. It's a dope movie.
Starting point is 03:20:53 Watching it in my living room because it was the pandemic. But this year we're doing Avatar way, fucking way of the water. I can't wait, dude. I can't wait for that to come out. I mean... James Cameron can say all his crazy shit, but is this the... He's the man. Is this the trailer? It's on their YouTube channel like four hours ago.
Starting point is 03:21:10 Oh, wow. It's got some clips. They're talking in between it. The CGI, it still looks like the old Avatar. I bet you it's gonna look fucking sick in the theater. But, I mean, there's still that uncanny valley. Oh, for sure, for sure. Isn't it interesting that they haven't quite passed that yet? we'll never pass i mean look i mean they're close man
Starting point is 03:21:29 they're kind of close i don't know but it's still i mean the the original avatar was how many years ago yeah okay it's a long time ago so if you think about it it's kind of crazy how close it is to the original one in terms of like maybe we're just looking at a like a grainy copy but i also think like what he really focused on was the water yeah and i and i think like compared to other water cgi shit he crushed it he also loves water like he was deep sea no no it's amazing i'm just saying i can tell they're not real of course yeah yeah you know what i'm saying like there's a weird thing like if thing. That's a thing that's a debate between special effects guys. Guys like Rick Baker. Guys who have done...
Starting point is 03:22:09 They do makeup and special American Werewolf in London versus CGI stuff. There's something missing always from the CGI stuff. I fully agree. The best effects is like... I mean, the thing is so sick. All practical. John Carpenter. John Carpenter. John Carpenter, the man.
Starting point is 03:22:26 And it's just like- They did a CGI version. Oh, I'm sure it was dog shit. No, it was pretty good. Really? Yeah, it was pretty good. Interesting. It was good.
Starting point is 03:22:34 It was fun. But it's still that thing where you know it's- There's just something about those practical effects. I think they even updated the older movie. It got updated. Oh, interesting. It's in 4K. I know that. So they had movie or the older movie got updated. Oh, interesting. It's in 4K. I know that.
Starting point is 03:22:46 So they had to run it through the computer once. I mean, it was one of the most fucking ridiculous movies I've ever seen in my life. It was amazing. When me and my brother, because we like, I have gained an appreciation for it over the, but I remember going into it and I was just like, I was a little bit of like a film snob because I was in college and I was on like my film snob shit and it was like, oh, Cameron like Terminator. Like he's going to, this is going to be, and it's got,
Starting point is 03:23:10 remember how hyped it was. Right. And it was super fun and like, let's get fucked up and watch an awesome action movie way. But it was not like fucking, you know, Goodfellas. It wasn't like a piece of cinema. It wasn't casino. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:23:21 Like, and so me and my brother, dude, the part where we lost it, we were having a good time. And don't get me wrong the battle scenes fucking sick but where they fucking fuck with their tails when they get their fucking little tail the cocks linked up i was like what the fuck is this i was like it's kind of hilarious but it is like but when you go into it is that any weirder than a dick and a pussy though dick and a pussy is pretty weird too pretty weird but you know I'm more familiar with that I'll say I get it
Starting point is 03:23:48 I get it alright Stavi let's wrap this bitch up let's wrap it up tell everybody what's your social media how they get a hold of you yeah Stavi Baby
Starting point is 03:23:56 Stavi Baby 2 on Instagram Stavi Baby on Twitter what happened to Stavi Baby 1 it was too erotic bro I was posting too much shit like this they nuked your account they nuked the first one years ago.
Starting point is 03:24:05 No way. You know what? I actually already brought this up years ago. You guys actually looked through my Instagram way back in the day. They nuked my shit, but Stavi Baby 2. But new podcast, Stavi's World. Please subscribe. The first one with Sam is really funny.
Starting point is 03:24:21 The second one we got is coming up soon. Is it? Beautiful. It's, yeah. And we have, I have got is coming up soon Is it? Beautiful And we have How do you say your last name? Halkius By the calendar I got a tour coming up I'm all over the place
Starting point is 03:24:33 They're selling really good I'm really proud of that shit We sold a bunch at the Wilbur Look at that sold out Dude I'm so excited Such a good club It's like three comedy clubs clubs stacked on top of each other I can't I do that I can't wait so we got that but yeah man listen to the fuck go listen to the podcast watch the
Starting point is 03:24:53 special we hit four million views uh follow my little brother he's an artist we didn't get to talk to my buddy my brother George art by Zodzie on Instagram and fucking, you know, go to Odyssey Strength and Conditioning. Say that again, Art by what? Art by Zodzy. D-Z-O-D-Z-I-E. How do you spell anybody to get that? It's tough. You said that word. I'm like, you're just going to throw that out there? You're right. A-R-Art by D-Z-O-D-Z-I-E.
Starting point is 03:25:18 He does this really fun. Imagine. I know. It's like Georgie, but Zodzy. He does this really fucking wild shit. I don't know if we can even show it. He's got like demons. Oh, Jesus. He's going to go to jail.
Starting point is 03:25:30 Put that away. Balenciaga's going to use that for the next ad campaign. They're all of age. They're all of age demons. Thank you, brother. It was a lot of fun. I enjoyed it very much. Bye, everybody.

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