The Joe Rogan Experience - #1915 - Brian Simpson

Episode Date: December 27, 2022

Brian Simpson is a stand-up comic and host of the podcast "BS with Brian Simpson." https://www.briansimpsoncomedy.com

the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day oh cheers my brother thank you man okay first of all Joe did you see the guy yesterday, his debut MMA match? He won, by the way. He has no lower body. Yes, Zion. Zion.

Yeah, dude, incredible. It was unbelievable. How fast he closes the distance with no legs. And so my question is, are you a... Zion Clark. Amazing. Are you allowed—is he considered a downed opponent? That's a good question.

Because that— Changes the game. That makes him OP because you can't kick him. You can kick him in the body. You can kick a downed opponent in the body. I mean, you think a leg kick is bad? Imagine an arm kick. And then imagine, like, you can't grab his legs. You can't a downed opponent in the body. I mean, you think a leg kick is bad? Imagine an arm kick. And then imagine, like, you can't grab his legs.

You can't. Yeah. And also, his upper body's insanely strong for someone of that weight class. So you have to think, like, first of all, nothing but props for the guy. No excuses. The guy's amazing. And just the fucking amount of courage that it takes to even train and become an elite wrestler and then become an MMA fighter all with no legs. Incredible.

Yeah, that's insane. No one's saying there's an advantage. But one thing that he's able to do, I mean, you don't have legs to control. So, like, your game is different. to control so like your game is different there's in the stand-up game you know punches like if you're punching a guy that's down like that and literally is at the hips like you have to like bend your knees down and try to punch him like to train for that guy because how do you train for all your power comes from your legs so if you can't push off right punch you you can't really load up and you know and if you leg kick that guy in his you you can't really load up in you know

And if you like kick that guy in his arm and break his arms, that's fucked up But also now he can't even get around He's probably so because the other thing you know that old quote about like don't argue with a don't argue with a fool cuz they'll Drag you down to their level and beat you with experience right? It's like that It's like he has way more experience down there than you do and you got to get down there Look how fast he can move just on his arms. That's insane. Well, that. It's like he has way more experience down there than you do, and you've got to get down there. Look how fast he can move just on his arms. That's insane.

Boy, that's terrifying. 33-inch vertical jump with his hands. That's incredible. Whatever that means. Have you ever seen that woman who was born with no legs, and she does everything with her feet? She puts her lipstick on with her feet. She eats with her feet. She writes her name with her feet. Yeah, it's crazy she has

dexterity with her feet like people have with their hands which makes you think like i wonder if that's like a skill that we all could acquire we just don't because we don't use our legs for that because like there's certain things that people could do with their hands right like if you ever see like a guy who's really good at boxing thinking like you ever have you done any boxing a little bit yeah one of the things is really awkward to learn is a left hook feels You see a guy who's really good at boxing thinking, like, have you done any boxing? A little bit, yeah. One of the things that's really awkward to learn is a left hook. It feels very weird.

It does, yeah. And you're standing like this and you've got to do that. It feels very weird to learn how to do that properly. It's a very odd movement. And people are all like, but eventually it gets to the point where it's natural. Like in a fight it just comes out. Like you train it. Yeah.

So there's all these, like, hidden abilities that our our bodies have we just don't ever use them in that way i think i think you know necessity is necessary like the fact that you have no choice yeah that is the that is the number one motivator it's like if i don't learn how to do this shit with my feet i'm never going to do shit right yeah. Yeah. I admire that kind of shit. And your nervous system, the way you learn things is by repetitive motion. Like you do it over and over. That's why, like when you tie your shoes, you don't even think about it. Eddie Bravo used to always use that as an example about jujitsu,

that you've got to train it to the point where it's automatic, like tying your shoes. Because when you tie your shoes, you're not thinking, okay, I make this loop and I wrap it around that loop and i go under and i do that you don't think that you just know and he's like that's jiu-jitsu has to become like that too i knew some kind of rhyme when i was a kid at first you know they teach you like you know or some shit like you know this is a bunny rabbit and over the bridge and yeah but but now i don't think about it at all yeah you're right now I don't think about it at all. Yeah, you're right.

Yeah, you don't think about it at all. Well, that eventually happens, I think, with everything that you do. You just got to do it so much because you tie your shoes every day. Get up, tie your shoes. Take your shoes off, put them back on, tie them on. That's why I – because on my podcast, BS with Brian Simpson, check it out. It's a very good podcast. YouTube, all platforms, BS with Brian Simpson.

Brian Simpson. Check it out. It's a very good YouTube, all platforms. B.S. with Brian Simpson. On mine, we, I get all the time I get emails about people go, how do I do stand-up comedy? You get those questions all the time. And it's like, and I remember when I first started, I would get

so frustrated because the veterans would always be like, well, just keep doing it. And it felt like a bullshit answer. But it is the answer. It's the right answer. It's the right answer. You just gotta do it. But felt like a bullshit answer but it is the answer it's the right answer it's the right answer you just got to do it but you also have to pay attention to what you're doing you know like i think if we all go back and watch our old tapes oh i can't do it yeah it's horrible you would go like oh my god i would never do that that way now especially the so i remember when i um when i first when i first started to get good. How many years was that?

Probably like two, two and a half years. So, you felt comfortable on stage? Right. When I felt comfortable, when my reputation in the scene was like, he's one of the best, right? And I remember this guy did a show at the club. He booked the club for the whole night.

I was working the door at this club. And he decided to come out. He booked three other comics, too. He decided to come out after each comic in a different costume, as a different character, and do stand-up as a different person. And he'd never done stand-up. Like, he was not a stand-up. I might have seen him at, like, one open mic or something, and then he decided to put on this whole big show Like he was not a stand-up. I might have seen him at like one open mic or something and then he decided to put on this whole big show.

He was like a model or something. So he just had like a grand idea. And I watched this motherfucker bomb in front of his friends. The club was all people he brought. I watched him bomb three times on the same show and it was painful. And I went up, I think I went up after the first character. And I had the best set of my life.

And he also had, he recorded the whole thing. He had triple cameras set up and everything. And I remember hitting him up the next day like, hey, man, you think I could get that tape? You know? And he was like, I can't watch it right now, but I'll get it to you as soon as. Because I felt him like his heart was ripped out of his chest. By the time he went up the third time, he was already broken. And this was his first time on stage. It was not his first time on stage, but it was like he'd done maybe two open mics and then put on this show for his all his friends and family and and and i'd forgotten about it i ain't

here from the guy for like six months you know and one day i come in i come into work and somebody's like hey man somebody dropped this off for you and it was a dvd with that set on it that i was like that was the best that i ever had like i can't wait to watch this. And I get home and I pop it in the computer and it was so bad. And that's when I realized, like, oh, no, like, the lessons you would have learned from that, you've already learned now in these six months. Like, you needed to watch that the next day or within a week or something to get there. Right?

You figured it out. It's funny in the beginning because you're working with open micers too. So like I remember when I got my first gig, when I got a paid gig, I realized, oh, there's a giant difference between an audience that's there to see a comedy show versus an audience that goes to an open mic night. Right. They're there to see pros.

And I wasn't really a pro. I was just doing open mic nights. I sucked. And when you're working with people that are terrible, I mean, they're so bad they'll never be good. They just don't, whatever the fuck it is that makes a person funny, they are void of that. Right. We know those guys, right? Yeah, yeah.

Those girls, those non-binary folks. When you learn, like, how to do it, like like comedy is one of those things it's just everyone's got to figure out their own little weird path you know and we're all doing that for the first time and you're trying to imitate people and you're so everybody sucks so if you go up and get a few laughs you think you're the shit yeah and then you do a work working show where you work with like real pros and you realize how terrible you are yeah well that's why places like that's why places like the store were important because it was like yeah you you know you're the shit in fucking Des Moines yes and then you go to LA and you go to the

store and you you know and you every night you see people that are light years beyond you and you need that you need to see that yeah because so many people they're comfortable being king of the hill because they scared to climb the mountain one of the things that mitzi used to do at the store is if she thought you were any good she'd put you on after the best people oh god you just died you died i had to go on after richard pryor five weeks in a row every time richard pryor did a set i go on after Richard Pryor five weeks in a row. Every time Richard Pryor did a set, I went on after him. Yeah, but you know what, though? The best people, that doesn't scare them. Scared the shit out of me.

Did it? Oh, yeah. But it wasn't part of you that was looking forward to the challenge? No, I was terrified. Oh, my God. You know who terrified me the most? Martin Lawrence. Oh.

Dude, I've talked about this before, and I'm sorry if you've heard the story, but Martin Lawrence during the You So Crazy days in the 90s, I was just getting to LA. So it was like 94. Just getting to LA. A little cute, fresh-faced Joe Rogan. And I was terrible. You know, just clunky. Real, you know, I'd get a few laughs.

I had a couple of good bits, but then I'd fuck something up and just, you know. So I had some potential, and i was working at it and i just went on after murders and when martin lawrence would would kill but people forgot how goddamn good martin lawrence was back then i hear that from everyone man people forgot if you go back and watch some of his specials and hear the laughs you'll get it's it's always hard to watch a special from the 90s because for some reason the comedy doesn't hold up that good with like it holds up for prior it holds up for kinnison it holds up for the greats of the greats but like if you watch like some of the really good specials from like the 1990s they there's something about them they're just kind of the styles dated something's different i think some i think it's just that some comedy is about

the big picture like just human humanity and some comedy is about the times right and the comedy is specifically about the times unless the unless things are exactly the things are the same right it doesn't hold up because the culture is so different, you know? Yeah, for sure. I mean, culture shifts so radically. You know who I always fucking dreaded following? Who?

Fucking Joey Diaz. Oh, he was the monster. Joey Diaz. You know, that's why I started taking him on the road with me. Oh, yeah. Because I had a bomb

going on after him. I was like, oh, good, I'm going to take him on the road with me. It'll force me to get better. Rick Ingram. A lot of people won't admit this,

but everyone hated following Rick Ingram. Oh, because Rick Ingram would work the crowd. He worked the crowd, but just so masterfully. Masterfully. The crowd would be mad that he was gone and that you were there instead.

Also, they wanted to talk. Yeah. When Rick's up, he'll talk to you. He wants you to talk back. He wants to fuck around with you and have a conversation with you. But I was like, yo, but I told Talon, I was like, I want to I told, you know, I was like, I want to go after him every time. If we're on the same one.

That's great. Yeah, because I would bomb after him all the time and I was like, until I figure out how to not bomb after him, I'm missing something, you know?

You got to cut all the fat out. That's what I realized. You got to cut to the point. Don't be self-indulgent. Pay attention to yourself like you're a hater. Cut that shit out. Make it quicker.

Get to the funny. Cut all the stuff that's like sea material. Cut it out. I look at my act like I'm getting ready for like a bodybuilding thing

where it's like I just bloat it full of every fucking possible idea I could possibly have. The bulking phase. Yeah, and then I fucking

yab, yab, yab, yab. That's a good way to think about it. The bulking phase because it is like the bulking phase. I'm in the bulking phase right now because I'm writing all this new shit. Yeah, and then I fucking yab, yab, yab, yab. That's a good way to think about it, the bulking phase, because it is like the bulking phase. I'm in the bulking phase right now because I'm writing all this new shit. Yeah, but that's my favorite part about the whole shit.

It's like watching a kid grow up. It's exciting. Yeah, just wait until I figure it out. By the way, I think I figured out that one bit. Oh, beautiful. We'll see. Good. See you tonight.

Yeah. Those days, though, of bombing like bombing I bombed after Dice a bunch of times I bombed after I bombed after Damon Wayans I bombed after everybody yeah so many people

that are so funny oh my god but back in the 90s man I couldn't believe I was on stage with them like I couldn't believe when I remember sitting in the back

there's another one that people forgot about Damon Wayans Damon Wayans. Damon Wayans, he had this special called The Last Stand. Go watch that special. It's fucking sensational. And again, you've got to watch it like it's whenever that special was made. I don't know what year that was.

But, dude, he was a monster. He just decided to do television. He just decided, he made a lot of money doing those fucking tv shows i think he's i think he's coming back though god i hope so i know he still does stand up and do you know that he records every fucking show that he's ever done on video he brings a tripod and a video camera he sits in the back of the room he puts them all on his computer and he watches them yeah i opened up for him in the belly room one time when he decided to do a show. And yeah, he walks in with a camcorder like it's 95. And he's been doing that forever.

He's a pro. Yeah. He's a pro. You know like those jazz saxophonists practice every day and they get their shit tight and they analyze it and go over it? That's what he does with comedy. Yeah. I used to be that meticulous and i'm trying to but it got to the point where it was it started to be easier for me and i got lazy you know what

there's a thing that i think we should all implement you know how we do this sober october thing where uh this year we had a workout every day and burned 500 calories we should do that with writing like we all commit to writing just make it reasonable like work out every day and burn 500 calories. We should do that with writing. Like, we all commit to writing. Just make it reasonable, like two hours every day. Writing for two hours? Writing for two hours every day. That's reasonable. Yeah, that is reasonable, yeah.

You know why? Because once you start, you just keep going. Like, the hard part about writing is sitting down in front of your computer. That's what Steven Pressfield calls resistance, the resistance of doing it. It's like your ego's fighting you and, you know, whatever it is. Procrastination, like there's times where I'm in front of my computer and I'm supposed to write and I just watch people play pool.

See, procrastination is interesting because I heard somebody recently say that it's not – procrastination is your inability to deal with the negative feelings around the task because your procrastination isn't you just not doing the important thing. It's you're doing something unimportant instead. Right. You're doing something with no consequences. You're scrolling TikTok. You're playing video games. You're doing something with no stakes because the stakes make you uncomfortable. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like the sit in front of the computer and not knowing where to go with anything

yeah fuck like i need to leave my house because uh do we we have a we because you know i'm roommates with hans and and uh asan and we we there's an extra room that we kind of turn into a podcast studio but i have to leave i still record studio. But I have to leave. I still record somewhere else because I have to leave. To work. To work, yeah. I can't. Having my computer in my room was the worst thing I've ever done in my bedroom.

Because you just sit in the bedroom then. Yeah, because it's the place where I work and the place where I rest, they blend. And it's like I can't get things done that way. I realized early on when I started doing my podcast like I had to take it out of my house I was like I gotta take it out of here Plus my daughter's really young I was bringing crazy people over and pot was coming out of the fucking door and into the hallway like Mommy, what's that smell? There's that too and then there's also like sometimes my kids would be screaming in the background.

It was fun though. Those old videos are kind of hilarious. And nobody comes and taps you on the shoulder and goes, hey, you're too famous for this. You know what I mean? It just creeps up on you. Yeah. Yeah. I had a motherfucker.

I had a, somebody dropped me off at my house the other day. I Ubered. And the whole ride, this, this dude was asking me questions as though he didn't know who I was. He got you. And then, yeah. And then drops me off at my house and goes hey man I'm gonna be honest I'm a big fan and we'll do the whooping wow I didn't know you live here and it's like ah man shit yeah so now when I uber home I have to uber up the street I uber to the next block oh no yeah but it's just it's just part of it you know I don't think I'm not big enough where somebody's going to do something crazy, at least.

But it only takes one crazy. It only takes one crazy. Why don't you get a car? I will eventually. Yeah. Yeah. It's easy to drive around here. Yeah, I will.

I get the whole Uber thing, but I like driving myself. I like being alone thinking. There's something about the movement of driving, too. You know, especially if you're driving something where you have a manual transmission. There's all this activity in your mind. There's a lot of stuff going on. They don't even do those anymore. Oh, yeah, they do.

Yeah? Yeah, you can get manuals. Yeah. They still sell the Mustang in a manual. They sell Porsches in manual. They sell— But the default's automatic. Yes.

Yeah. There's very few cars where you can only get a stick. There's a few sports cars we can only get a stick. Like custom-made stuff, and there's a few... There's probably, I think, some of the Porsches. There's one or two Porsches. Maybe it's the T. See if that's true, the 911 T.

They make purist cars. They did that. They used to do that with the GT3. It was like the Porsche R. It only came in a manual. It was like this 500 horsepower beautiful 911 that was like sedated looking because it looked almost like a right...

It didn't have like a crazy wing like a GT3 RS. That's, yeah. The unconnected car. Internet connected cars makes it a case for unplugging. How is it unconnected? It doesn't have screens and shit and GPS. Is that what it's saying? Stripped down?

It has more, oh, the new 911T has more electronic equipment than the old one, including electronically adjustable dampers, active engine transmission. Okay, that's just like electronics for the car itself. But the infotainment system is connected and able to receive over-the-air updates and link to a smartphone app, but you can still turn the data sharing and refuse to use the app. Even the UTA updates are limited to infotainment software, not vehicle controls. For modern high-end vehicles, this is as close you're going to get to an off-the-grid in a brand-new car. They're dope.

Go back to that image again. Yeah, so that's a manual. Yeah, but that's not as close as you can get off-the-grid. Rip that shit out. That's off-the-grid. It still looks like it has Apple CarPlay. Right. Totally disconnected.

Yeah. But if you get an old car old cars that's the that's a real experience but i don't want that i want my shit loaded to the gills give me every modern i'm a gadget guy i don't want a fucking old car no you would get annoyed if they didn't have android auto right like some of them don't have android auto yeah some of them don't have it or they don't have it wireless you have to like plug a cable in to use it. Yeah, that's annoying. There was a thing where BMW was going to make people pay to use Apple CarPlay. Or any other features. I don't know what it is.

It was like a monthly subscription. I was like, that's crazy. Is that true? Find out if that's true. It's the rich tax. But that's just stealing money. Yeah. Like, I bought the car.

Give me the fucking features. I could just go out and rip that shit out and put one in there that doesn't require anything. That's just stealing money. Yeah. It's like. Like, I bought the car. Give me the fucking features. I could just go out and rip that shit out and put one in there that doesn't require anything. Yeah. I get our Apple CarPlay. It's like. It used to be an $80 charge. Now it's not.

Oh, okay. They bailed on it. That's crazy. Just the fact that they had you charge. Is it per month? A year. A year. That's not a lot.

But it's still stealing $80 a year. Yeah, well, it's the rich tax. I was just talking to one of the guys out there about he pulled out some Tom Ford glasses. It's like when you finally can start buying stuff like that and you realize, oh, these are way nicer than the shit I've been buying, right? But they ain't worth $500. But they know if you can afford it, they're probably worth like $250. But they know if you can afford $250 sunglasses, you'll pay $500 for them. Well, how many people sell stuff on like aftermarket? They'll buy sneakers right when they come out.

And then they sell those sneakers. You could sell them because they'll sell out. And you can sell them for hundreds of dollars more. There's some people that their whole business is that way. They're rich off that. They flip sneakers. You could sell them because they'll sell out and you can sell them for hundreds of dollars more. There's some people that their whole business is that way. They're rich off that. They flip sneakers. Yeah, and they created

like bots that'll buy them as soon as they come out. It's crazy. It's crazy the demand for them. Yeah, I've never, I like some sneakers but I'm not about to, gadgets are the thing

that I would like that I'm unreasonable, like will pay extra up front to be the first adapter to put sneakers. I'm like, like will pay extra up front to be the first adapter. But sneakers, I'm like, I'll just wait. I'll get some nice ones. Yeah, you're all in with gadgets and you're all in with Android, which is very interesting. For now.

Oh, you're starting to come to the dark side. Well, I think Apple is about to switch not to USB-C, but I think they're going to go wireless completely. That's not smart. It's the way they. It's not as fast. Well, the thing is, the reason they still own the old lightning cable is because manufacturers have

to pay them for that made-for-Apple shit. Right, because of the lightning cable. They should have gone to USB-C. Right, but now they invented USB-C. That's crazy. And now they got the MagSafe shit, and that's proprietary as well. So they can...

Because the EU just ruled against them. Right. The EU said that they have to put USB-C cables. No, the EU said anything that can be charged with a cable has to be USB-C. Well, USB-C is superior, which is weird. It's like superior for data transfer, superior for everything.

But Apple had that proprietary input that, you know, so many more people have iPhones that I know. Yeah, in America. Yeah. Yeah. But if you look at like the number of sales, it's like, I think there's way more Android phones than there are iPhones, right? In the world, yeah. What is it in America?

I think even in America there's more Android phones than iPhones. I'm not sure. No. No? No, no, no. Really? I think it's just people. Apple has a lock on America.

But you can get a really good, cheap Android phone for like a couple hundred bucks. Yeah. Like if you're on a budget and you just need a phone to text and send an email and shit an android phone will do whatever the fuck you need it to do and you can get one like what's like go to like verizon store what's like a cheap android apple claimed over 50 as of september this year oh so this is the first time yeah they took from this i would just saw 2010 it said that it's they don't have the lead but that's in create that's incredible it over again we had this guy said Darth Kara on the podcast the other

day was one of the most disturbing and dark and just depressing podcasts I've ever done is it about spying it's about cobalt mining about what goes into getting a cell phone like what itt mining, about what goes into getting a cell phone. Like what it really, what really goes into getting a cell phone is slaves in the Congo and children in the Congo and people with babies on their backs.

Women who are working with a child on their back, breaking out cobalt with hammers and the toxic fumes. They're inhaling them. Their child's inhaling them all sorts of birth defects cancers respiratory diseases dermatitis he was talking about all this horrible shit that happens to these people on top of the fact that they're not getting hardly barely any money they're just barely enough to survive and eat they're treated like shit they work 12 hours a day and that's at the heart of every fucking cell phone we own.

We can't even give these motherfuckers the cheap Android phones. They don't have any phones. They don't even have electricity. That's what he's telling us. It's like a very, very, very small percentage of the Congo even has electricity. And these people that live in the mines, they're too poor for, or that work in the mines, they're too poor for any of that. or that work in the mines. They're too poor for any of that.

I'm working on this new bit now about how, you know, about how many steps do you, how many steps need to be between you and the atrocity for you to move on with your life. Right. You know? That's a good bit. It's like as long as like I'm not getting my phone from them, that would make me feel bad, right?

Well, think about all the people that are active on their phone doing what they think is social justice. Exactly. It's crazy. You're on a phone that's literally at the bottom of the supply chain is slaves. Dude, I have a thing for you, Joe. Speaking of which, what do you think this

headline is about? This is what we do on my podcast, by the way. I used the cough button for the right reason. How about that? Woman with Down syndrome loses court of appeal abortion law case. So what do you think that's about? I would say someone is forcing her to get an abortion.

Okay. And she loses the lawsuit. Right, because that's what a reasonable person would think. Right. No to get an abortion. Okay. And she loses the lawsuit. Right, because that's what a reasonable person would think. Right. No, no. No. No. What is it?

What it's about is, so this is in England. Their abortion law is pretty much the same as Texas. Really? It was pretty close. Six weeks? No, it's not six weeks, but it's like there's an exception for the rape and incest. And if there's going to be a severe birth defect, and as a specific example, they use Down syndrome in the law. And this woman wants to repeal the law because she has Down syndrome and making that an exception makes her less than.

So she wants. So if your baby's about to be born with Down syndrome in the UK, you can have an abortion. You know, it's like what where do you decide birth defects end? Right. So what if your child is born with only one hand? You know what I'm saying? Well, it's it's all stuff that they can- What if your child's born like Zion Clark? Well, they can tell genetically beforehand. I don't know if they can tell. Well, maybe they can. I think they can tell a lot. Yeah, yeah. I think they can tell a lot about your development. If someone decides that, I mean, you could get real crazy with that, right? Like, people are capable of some very

dark justifications like look at what they were doing in china the one child policy in china there was horror stories about people killing their their babies that are girls so they could have one kid i don't know how many of them were folklore you know those are those things that people would tell you you just like you know they many of them were folklore. You know, those are those things that people would tell you. You're just like, you know, they drown their babies. Right, right, right. You know? Like the Spartans, they just throw them off a cliff.

Yeah, they drown their girls. Like, Jesus. Is that, how much is that, is that real? Do they really, I mean, if you can imagine it, some horrific thing. Someone has done it. Because it's also crazy. Because, like, what you can't have is a country of just men. You can't.

No. No, no, no. As much as we talk and complain about women, we still need them to be. We need that feminine energy to balance out. Because you've seen what happens when it's just men left to their devices and there's no women. That gets crazy. It's not good. No.

And also, if there's not enough females to match with the heterosexual males, like, you don't even have a chance. Right, right. It's like if you're a guy already, you know, everyone wants to talk about, like, you know, the benefits of being a guy, and there are benefits to being a guy. But one of the negative effects of being a guy. There are benefits to being a guy. But one of the negative effects of being a guy that people don't talk about

is guys that are unattractive and don't have any money. They are unheard and unseen. Unattractive guys with no money, they're in a very strange position in our society. Andrew Tate, as much as people hate him talked about that

he's like it's a very small percentage of guys that that have all the money and all the women and all the you know the fucking ferraris and all that shit he's like to to say that that's men that's representative of men is insane because it is such a small percentage now are they you know if it's a guy like that he's got like diamond encrusted watches and he's fucking flashing he's blinging and he's you know taking pictures with all these girls it's obnoxious people everybody else gets upset about it but one of the reasons why they get upset about it is because they know how inaccessible that is yeah and it's for most people it's completely impossible and women don't like to hear that but it's like the this

and in a lot of situations the ceiling is capped for women right but the but the floor is also capped you know it's like i ain't never seen a homeless bad bitch not one time yeah but if they're not a bad bitch see like if you're a guy like even if you're a hot guy you could still be poor and broke and no one's marrying you oh yeah you remember you. Remember the one guy that Miley Cyrus rescued? He was homeless and she took him on a date to the award show. It's like, yeah, he was on the street.

But you've never seen a girl that could be a model on the street. That's maybe true. Because there's always some dude that's willing to take care of you. There's a lot of pretty prostitutes, man. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Some people go through some horrible shit in their life, you know, even if they're attractive. They're in the wrong situation, the wrong abuse at home. Or they got schizophrenia or something. Yes, yes. Mental health is... Men, too.

Like a hot guy with schizophrenia. What a disaster. Wasted all those genes on a wacky brain. I forget what rapper said, but he's like, it's like a fat ass on a nun. Who was that? Chino XL. That's funny. He said, you're a worthless waste of flesh like a fat ass on a nun.

That's funny. That's some cold shit to say in a rap. That is very cold. Yeah, but it's like, yeah, it's kind of, it's sad, man. But I'm not sure if the world is worse because every you know the media wants you to believe that like everything is horrible no the world's better statistically right right right and and i know people are doing bad worse now relative to how they were doing a few years ago yes but we all but we all just went

the whole globe went through the same shit. Well, yeah, you can't shut a country down. Now we know. Now we know. You can't do that. But, you know, there's a lot of people that want to claim that they had the solution to that. No one knew what the fuck was going on in the beginning. The way it was handled was definitely bad.

But in the beginning, no one knew what the fuck to do. We were all in favor of the lockdown at first because we all thought it was going to work, except for like virologists and epidemiologists who thought that it didn't matter and it was just going to spread no matter what you did. Well, what blows my mind is that I feel like we're going to make the same mistake again. We might. Well, there's people that want to put the masks back on for RSV and for the flu and for all these different things we never wore a mask for before. And then there's all this evidence that kids' immune system function is not working as good because they didn't get exposed to anything for all those times they were isolated. What about that fungal shit?

You heard about that? Fungal shit. There's like some fungal shit that was like spreading in Vegas. Now it's everywhere. What is it? It's some shit you can breathe. It's a fungus that you can breathe in. Oh, no.

And it fucks some people up. Imagine if it got you high. Imagine if it was like psilocybin fungus that you could breathe in, and there's like a whole town of people just tripping balls. That reminds me of like, I don't know if it was an Outer Limits episode or something, but it was like some shit was going around the world fucking people up, and it was making their skin like copper almost, and then all the medical people were fighting on it and lockdowns and everything, and at the end they realized that it was preparing

everyone's skin because the sun was about to go turn into a white dwarf or whatever the fuck, or or red giant and it was it was like it was like some it was basically aliens saving us they introduced the virus that changed our skin so we could withstand the extra radiation oh wow i know man i've always wondered if that's why aliens have those big black eyes well like one of those eyes are like if those things are like sunglasses it's like their environment gets so fucked that they need to be shielded from ultraviolet rays they can't see normally. So they're like. See, I would love to do that.

What if we got, because you know enough smart people, like if we got together and tried to like re-engineer the human body. They're going to do that. They're doing that right now. There's a thing called, do you know what CRISPR is? Oh, yeah, yeah. The gene splicing thing? Yeah. That's. Wild shit. That's a thing called, do you know what CRISPR is? Oh, yeah, yeah. The gene splicing thing? Yeah. That's

wild shit. That's some crazy shit. Wild shit. They're gonna make Thor's and Hulk's. They're gonna, like, people are gonna be able to run 500 miles an hour. Remember Gattaca? Yes, yeah. Yeah, and it's like, yo, you're not gonna have a choice. People are like, I'm not gonna edit my kids. Yes, you are.

Yeah, you're gonna. Yes, you are. Because you can't afford to not. It'll be a new thing. It'll just be like vaccinating your kids. It'll be like the things that everybody does. It'll be like bringing your kid to the doctor for a checkup, having a baby in a hospital. It'll be normal. Whoever's Kim Kardashian in 2045, as soon as they pump out a super baby, you know what I mean?

Yeah. As soon as they pump out a super baby, you know what I mean? Can you imagine getting John Jones' mother's genes and mixing them with Francis Ngannou? Oh, my God. Yeah. And just having – what are you going to do? You're going to make your baby still be 5'6"? Yeah. When everybody's baby's 6'2"? And just yoked or what about um

in intellect one of the things that uh they did in china was they said that they were doing this thing to uh it was like to inoculate them from hiv that was the pretense but what it really did was make them smarter and this doctor want to i think they just put the doctor in jail to like say oh i can't even believe he was doing this put him in jail you know the dude probably was they probably told him to do it they did this to everyone no no they did it to a couple guys they did how many people did they do that to i think it's two twin girls two, sorry. Girls. But I don't know how they know. How long ago was this? I think we've gone over this.

We tried to figure out how they knew that their IQ was higher. I think what they did with editing had something to do with cognitive function. And they think that what they did would... You don't have to put that on the ground if you don't want to. You can have that on the ground for a reason. I was like, hide the logo because he's moving. No, you don't have to hide the on the ground if you don't want to. Oh, okay. You can have that on the ground for a reason. I was like, hide the logo because he's moving.

No, you don't have to hide the logos. I don't give a shit. What is it? What's going on? It's Uptime. What is it? It's some kind of fucking

energy drink. Energy drink, yeah. I drink it all the time. Good stuff. What's it called again? Uptime. Uptime. Yeah.

All right. So what's the deal? How do they know these guys are smarter? I'm trying to figure that out. These girls, excuse me. So sexist. CCR5 genes related to major brain functions.

You might have done some kind of human enhancement. That's what it is. Created by two intelligent human beings with better memory and higher IQ. So they did it to them in the womb? They did it to them as embryos? When did they do it? I don't know. I'm going to find a different article.

I'm reading a study on it. Okay. But the whole point is they've already started doing stuff like that. do it i don't know i'm gonna find a different article i'm reading like a study on it okay but the whole point is they've already started doing stuff like that and so if they can do that with the mind you know imagine we all get elon musk's brain oh yeah would you want it no not his like if i'm picking my geniuses right no he's too emotional i would i would probably go with uh probably like a sam harris dude i think they're all emotional i think most gene and sam's brilliant too but i mean people are human beings human beings are emotional no i'm just saying there's different kinds of intelligence well he engages you know that's the thing they these guys they engage with

people online when you engage online like your emotions your emotions are going to get beat up, even if they're strong. Even if they're strong, your emotions are going to go on a run. You're going to utilize a certain amount of your resources on those emotions. Well, I went – because my producer doesn't like Elon Musk, and we argue about it all the time. What doesn't he like about him? He's just a hardcore lefty so he you know elon is you know i i don't want to speak put words in his mouth but it's like to him elon is what's wrong with everything you know but but i i was i'm one of those people where i'm like i i try as my

best to be neutral with people like him because he's one of those people that's so polarizing that like when when people don't like you like the way they don't like him they anything negative about you they just believe it well it's always for people like that it's always good to try to engage them as calmly as possible and not to not even to pick a side just you kind of want to steel man their position, right? Like if someone is very, very emotional, you almost want to ask them, okay, tell me what you think and why you think this way. And then they tell you what they think. And then you could say, have you ever considered or did you know that this? I see what you're saying. I agree with what you're saying.

Like you almost want to say, I see your points. I understand what you're saying i agree with what you're saying like you almost like want to say i see your points i understand what you're saying right but human beings are extremely nuanced and you could narrow a guy like elon down to like a very dismissible box like very easily because he tweets at people and he says ridiculous shit and he trolls and he has fun he put a picture of fucking bill gates up next to a pregnant man emoji and said, if you want to lose a boner real quick. No. I mean, that shit is hilarious. Who the fuck does that? He put a poll up saying like, yo, should I step down as CEO?

Yeah. And they said yes. So he's looking for a CEO. I hope he picks Lex. Well, Lex offered to do it. Lex is a brilliant engineer. I don't know if he wants to be a CEO, a chief executive officer. That's what that is, right?

But do you think he was bullshitting when he offered? I don't know if that's what he's offering. He might have been offering to take it over from an engineering perspective. Oh, okay. You know, because that would, like, change what he does. And if he did do something like that, I think Lex is a brilliant man, and he would be great at anything he puts his mind to he's one of the best interviewers in the game his his podcast is sensational and he's so brilliant i mean he he used to work on ai at mit and he you

know he writes code for artificial intelligence when i first came down here i didn't know who he was but i remember he was hanging remember he was hanging out with you and like all the comics and blah, blah, blah. And you could just, just the way he was sitting in the corner, like this motherfucker's different. Yeah. Yeah. He's a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt,

shreds on the guitar, genius, like certifiable genius. And he's ultimately like very curious and very kind he's a very kind person and he says it all that's like he's always talking about treating people with love yeah and he'll talk to anybody man he'll talk to anyone and he had kanye on early when everybody was like oh my god kanye's lost his fucking mind lex is like let me let him come on long form and express himself yeah and in a way that's like a death knell because it's like once he once you talk to him and you stay alone that shit it's like there's no one that's going to treat you with more kindness and more objectivity yeah no no more than lex yeah yeah

no he's great at it but see the problem is like if he went and became the ceo of twitter i feel like we wouldn't have as much of that Lex anymore. He wouldn't be able to do those podcasts and do that. But I know he likes working hard, man. He's one of those crazy dudes that enjoys like 100-hour work weeks. He likes dedicating himself to things. Bro, I don't have that gene. He's got a different gene.

I don't have that. Well, he doesn't have the stand-up gene, I don't think. I mean, maybe he could probably do it. He could do it if he thought about it, if he thought about it long enough. You think he could do stand-up gene, I don't think. I mean, maybe he could probably do it. He could do it if he thought about it. If he thought about it long enough. You think he could do stand-up? 100%. Yeah.

Really smart people, Elon could do it 100%. Just the fact that he would write that, if you want to lose a boner real quick, a picture of Bill Gates next to a pregnant man emoji. See, but I disagree. Listen, you did it. You sucked in the beginning. I'm not saying he'd be good. Yeah, but being funny is just one part of it, right?

But the live performing thing, that's the hard part. There's a lot to that for sure. But there's people that are really funny that aren't that good at live performing. Yeah, they're writers. Yeah, but they write and they go on stage sometimes and kill. Oh, yeah, you're right. You know, there's certain guys that we know that are, like,, they're writers. Yeah, but they write and they go on stage sometimes and kill. Oh, yeah, you're right. You know, there's certain guys that we know that are, like,

really good joke writers. They're not the most charismatic on stage. Yeah. The only people that I think absolutely can't do it are people that are just not funny at all.

Right. Like, if I... Because I know people that think they can do it and I think, like, you've never... You've never made anyone laugh. Like, you've never made anyone laugh like you've never made me laugh in the whole time i've known you you can't do stand-up well some people like

severely like we all lack self-awareness like complete objectivity but some people just have zero they just don't know you know they just don't it's almost like some people are just born hard of hearing their ears don't work well yeah some people are born and they just whatever the fuck it is about personality and it's like people that are tone deaf yeah it's like they think they can sing and they don't hear it they don't hear it how horrible it is but that's they're just it's the same kind of person it's like there's there's delusional people. Their brain's not working right. Yeah, I think that comes from like you have to. That's why who is around you is so important.

In a lot of ways, it's the look or the draw. A lot of ways. If you're in the middle of nowhere, Little Rock, Arkansas, you want to do stand-up. I don't know how many dudes are there that are really good. Yeah. Right? You're in Hartford, Connecticut. You want to do stand-up? Just don't know how many dudes are there that are really good. Yeah. Right? You're in Hartford, Connecticut. You want to do stand-up?

Or just somebody that love you enough to tell you the truth. They're like, hey, man, you shouldn't do this. You know? Yeah, but you can't listen to all those people. Yeah, yeah, you're right. My mom told me I wasn't funny. Oh, well, yeah. My family, I don't know what they think.

I think they recognize that other people think I'm funny. Well, they know you're killing. Yeah. They have to hear the laughs. But I think it's hard for people that knew you when you weren't this to see you as the way they look at other big name people. That's why it's really hard when you start off as an open mic-er in a city. And then they always think of you as that guy who sucked. And then you go on and you get better.

And you have to come back as a headliner. You got to come back when you're undeniable. Like, you know that whole bit that Chappelle has about how his kid wanted to really meet Kevin Hart, you know? It's like, because to his kids, he's just dad. Right, right, right. He ain't the funniest motherfucker on the planet. You know what I mean?

Right, right, right. It's like, people that know you a certain way, it's hard for them to mock you out of it. Well, at least they've known him as dad. He's always been Dave Chappelle. What if they knew him as dad, the open mic-er? Oh, yeah. That's a different animal.

See, by the time he had children, he was already Dave Chappelle. Yeah. You know, if you're an open mic-er and you're in a town and they watch you eat shit the first time you ever get on stage you got notes and shit they're always going to remember that they saw they probably saw you bomb 20 times i remember like i was talking to um to bert's bert's uh family and it's like his kids don't even watch him they they're completely uninterested they get plenty of him he's at home yeah yeah

he's there all the time i was there when they first saw him tell the machine story wow they weren't allowed to see it until they were like a certain age and and it's crazy they would be completely not even curious to like look up all this stuff that makes sense though yeah it makes sense now that i think because i don't have kids, so I don't understand, but now I do, you know, it's like who, like to them,

it's like, it's just that, like I never gave a fuck what my dad was doing when he was gone. Right. Yeah. He's just your dad. Yeah.

That's a, an interesting comparison, but I think it's even more extreme when someone sees you as a beginner in something. Like, that's the thing with martial arts too.

Like sometimes someone's a white belt and you always think of them as that person you used to crush when they're a white belt and then all of a sudden they're a purple belt and you're in fucking danger and they wipe they wrap your ass you're in danger like oh no you got a lot better fuck see i'm the jujitsu intimidates me i think but i do i need i need to pick something up i'm i think i'm gonna do boxing why don't you do jujitsu it's it's i don't know it just i can't mechanic because i

wrestled for like my freshman year of high school and i hated it it's hard yeah it's it's constantly hard it's like it doesn't not it doesn't stop being hard wrestlers are some of like the mentally strongest people in the world that the just to get through the practices and the drills and all the live rounds live wrestling and then to go to meets and to make weight the day of the match and the shit that those guys go through the way they cut weight the way that's the mental strength that wrestlers have off the charts their masters at at focusing while they're suffering. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Whereas the average person will be suffering, and 90% of their brain power will be focused on how much it sucks. Yeah. And wrestlers learn how to just ignore it and completely focus while they're in pain, when they can't breathe.

They have a phrase for it. It's called embrace the grind. Yeah. Because I've been there. It's like if you've never had a motherfucker on top of you that you can't get off you, you don't understand what I'm talking about. Because, look, I'll never forget one.

This is what made me quit wrestling. I showed up at this... It was our school hosting a tournament. And I got my brother to come. And my family didn't give a fuck about wrestling, but he came to watch. And I was going up against this other, it was my turn to go against this other dude.

And I walked in and this motherfucker's got, he's got some kind of tubes or some shit coming out of him. Like he's on some kind of, I don't know, a heart thing or something. And no one gave me any guidance. No one gave me a heads up. I didn't know if I was allowed to grab it. Like would he die if I pulled it up? None of that shit. No one gave me a heads up. I didn't know if I was allowed to grab it, like would he die if I pulled it up. None of that shit. No one said anything to me. But I'm like, okay, it's fine.

My brother's watching. I'm just going to fuck this dude up. He's crippled or something, right? That's how I was thinking back then. And as soon as the ref blew the whistle, I've never seen a motherfucker move this fast. He dove at my ankle and tripped me and was on my back and we rolled out of bounds and the ref a motherfucker move this fast. He dove at my ankle and tripped me and was on my back.

And we rolled out of bounds. And the refs blew the whistle again. He dove at my ankle. He did it like five times in a row. Just lightning. Fucked me up. And I threw my headset off. And I got knocked to point.

And I was like, fuck that. And I walked out of the gym. Wow. Because it was the first time anyone come to watch me. And I got just embarrassed. and I couldn't handle it. Oh, no. Yeah, never wrestled after that. If you get in there with someone who's really good at something and you're not,

you just realize right away, you're like, oh, no. I can't think as quick as you're moving. I can't keep the rhythm. I don't know what you're doing before you're doing it, and then you're doing another thing because you anticipate my counter to that thing and then you've chained another thing together And now I'm on my back again. Yeah, it's like you're in trouble Like if you don't yeah, and I and honestly it came down because there was a war between our coach and our assistant coach And because our coach would focus on technique and drilling and stuff like that

And our assistant coach wanted us just in the weight room because he he was like, if you're stronger, you'll win. And the assistant coach won out. Because all these people are volunteers. And the coach ended up leaving. The strength guy was in. And he was like, no, motherfucker, I needed to know what to do. When somebody dives at your ankle with the speed of Usain Bolt or whatever. Yeah.

If you know technique, then strength is important. But strength is not as important as technique. No. Technique is the most important thing by far. If you look at how the Russians did it, that's one of the things that's interesting about George St. Pierre. Because George St. Pierre was one of the very best wrestlers in MMA, but he didn't wrestle in high school or college.

He's from Canada. And where he was from, he didn't wrestle in high school or college. He's from Canada. And where he was from, he didn't engage in wrestling. He learned wrestling from the Russian nationals that had moved to Montreal. So he learned it as a martial artist. As an adult? As an adult. Wow. And look how good he got. Because their shit was very, very technical. The Russians are always known to be very technical, and they do a lot of drilling because they're they don't there's not like an

ego-based system right the system is about success like what's the best way to achieve success it's like it's like you don't have a choice this is soviet union right you shut the fuck up and this is what you're gonna do like yeah i mean. There's no Billy does it his own way. There's none of that. This is not the culture. The culture is like figure out and suffer. And what's the best way to do what you don't want to do, which is drill. And that's the same thing with jujitsu too.

If you want to get really good, a guy like Mikey Musumechi, he drills all day. Gordon Ryan, those guys drill all day. They drill constantly. The more you drill, the more it's like tying the shoes. And the more of those things you can add to your repertoire, the better you are. Those guys will get to a point where it doesn't matter how strong you are. You don't know what to do with your strength. You're helpless because you're in bad – you're like – your arm doesn't work strong that way.

They're behind you. You're fighting an arm around your neck. You're fucked. And then you watch some of the shit they pull off. Or just, you know, where it's like you have to slow it down to see exactly what they did. Like, how the fuck did he get on his back? Yeah, Mikey did that in one FC. There's this back take that he had that's so brilliant.

I made a bunch of people watch it. I'm like, watch this. Watch how slick this back take is. Are you going to play it? Yeah, we could find it. Mikey Misumichi slick back take in one FC. It was beautiful. Yeah, he's a genius. He's brilliant. His whole family dangerous.

Yeah, his sister's dangerous too. Yeah, the sister just did something. She's a black belt too. Yeah, she just won a tournament somewhere. I'm sure. She's his sister. She's probably an assassin. But I remember the first time I ever saw him, I saw him live in Austin when they were doing that Who's Number One thing.

And it was him and this other dude that were grappling. And the other dude was, like, ripped and he he had a fucking shaved head and tattoos and shit. Oh, yeah, this is it. And I'm like, I'll take the guy with the glasses. I'm like, watch this back take. And this is against Imanari, who's super legit. Look at that back take. He stepped over with one leg.

Show that one more time. Watch how he did this. Like, if you don't know jiu-jitsu, like, he's in sort of side control here. But look at that. He got to his back so here. But look at that. He got to his back so quickly. It was so slick. And all of a sudden, Imanari's trapped.

I mean, this is absolute beautiful precision movement. And that's something he's drilled like a thousand times, I'm sure. And Imanari's like one of the goats. Oh, yeah. He's a legend. Imanari's like they created a role after him, like the Imanari role. It's called the Imanari is like, they created a role after him, like the Imanari role. It's called the Imanari role. There's also an Imanari submission from an omoplata.

It's like you got a guy on a shoulder lock and you reach under the chin with an S grip and you submit him from the back. Maybe I will trust him. Yeah, that's right. Because you know what? Motherfuckers is getting more dangerous. It's like comedy. You're going to suck and then you're going to get better. That's what it's like.

But unlike comedy, anybody can get better. At jiu-jitsu? Yes. Anybody can get better at jiu-jitsu. Yeah, some of the stupidest people in the world are good at jiu-jitsu. You just need to drill it. But it's a different kind of intelligence. You know, it's a different kind of, you have more, you know, like some people have a lot of access to information like the definition of words, history they can pull up and tell you about.

It's very, very impressive. And some people have a wide library of physical movements that they could pull up. It's like a – It's still intelligence. You ever have like a bug on you and you pop just without even thinking about it it's like some people have that like they they feel you feel your thigh on their knee in a certain way and they just snap and you're fucking dead they just know what you're gonna do too they've done they've rolled so many times and they have such a deep understanding of what's possible with the human body where the leverage

points are jiu-jitsu is so technical people People think of it as being like this broodish thing where people just like choke each other and shit. But you see a guy like Mikey, he's not a brood at all. Jiu-jitsu is super, super technical. Why do you think Sambo isn't more popular? Well, that's interesting that you said that because Gordon Ryan just said that he thinks that combat Sambo is actually better for MMA than jiu-jitsu is, which he's got some real good points.

If anybody knows, it's Gordon. And the guys that are really good in combat Sambo, like Khabib and Islam Makhachev, who's the UFC lightweight champion right now, he's a fucking animal, and he's a combat Sambo guy. There's a lot of those combat Sambo guys where they're really good at controlling people from the top position, which, you know,

arguably when you add in punches and elbows and stuff like that, that's more important than anything. Yeah. And they can submit you too. Because it feels like whatever the answer to Khabib is, the next generation's gonna

come up with doing that as like natural, right? Well, they're going to encounter guys like that, and they're going to try to figure out counters to it. Or they're going to get better at what they're doing, you know, like that combat sambo style, and they'll get better at it and incorporate other things to it. But Khabib's done that too. You just don't see it as much.

Like when he submitted Justin Gaethje, he submitted him with a mounted triangle, and then he finished him off of his back and put him to sleep. Like he can do all those other things too. That was his last match. That was his last match. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he almost got Dustin at the end of the first round and then finally submitted him in the second round.

But it was brilliant. But it was as good as you'll ever see an elite, brilliant Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt do it. So he can do that, too. He can submit you off his back, too. But that pressure, that top pressure, the ability to take guys down and control them and beat the fuck out of them. Smash!

What he calls it. By the way, side note, Paige Van Zandt tweeted that she was single yesterday. Oh, no. Just in case y'all was wondering. Is she tweeting stuff like that? She tweeted, and I'm single. Can you imagine the amount of dick pics that must be coming that lady's way? It must be like locust.

Right, but it's like you got to be able to beat her to qualify. She's not fucking a dude weakening her. No. You remember those videos you'd see of like kansas in the 1950s when locust would hit you can't even get to your car yeah yeah that's probably what the dick pics are like coming at page vans that must be unstoppable i mean it was probably like that beforehand like it's probably pretty bad beforehand but now she's like i'm single everybody just put the bat signal up right right if she said I'm single and she said I'm single on fucking social media.

I'm like, yeah, just get on one of the maps. Get on Hinge or Raya or something. She doesn't have to do that. No? No, just filter through those DMs. Do they have a dating app just for fighters? That's a good question. There's not enough of them.

No? It's so hard to become a fighter. Oh, yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah, you, that, I mean, And to find female fighters? Oh, my God. Good luck. She might have been kidding. Oh, was she just joking around? She was talking about... Yeah, there's tweets she was doing

to... It had to do with the football player quarterback for the Texas... Oh! She was joking. Okay. Like, if they did good, her husband would like that or something like that. And then they won, so she says, am I single now? Oh, that's funny. Okay.

Sorry, Paige. So it's just a joke. But see, a lot of motherfuckers like me, she still got- Only saw that one tweet. She still got, yeah. She still got those dick pics. Of course. Definitely.

If she said it in a chain of tweets, but that one was by itself an individual tweet. Yeah. Most people like us just read that one and be like, yes! You know how many dudes who don't have a shot are like, fuck yeah! She's free. Finally. Some guys, if they're following a porn star

and they find out the porn star is married, they get mad. Like, oh. Right, like you had a chance. But you know what? A lot of porn stars will fuck a fan from time to time. Oh, that's sweet. Like as a promo thing? Yeah! They'll put it up like, hey, Like you had a chance. But you know what? A lot of porn stars will fuck a fan from time to time. Oh, that's sweet. Like as a promo thing.

Yeah. They'll put it up like, hey, hey, met up with my fan. Fucked him. That's sweet. Yeah, that is kind of thoughtful. Very thoughtful. It's like you're using your powers for good. Yeah.

Nice. Very charitable. Charity fuck. Yeah, she probably stopped a school shooter or something. How fast are those guys nut? Oh, probably a medium. As soon as they touch it. Because the other thing, too, is like porn stars know

how to take away all the insecurity and all of that. Because obviously those guys are coming in nervous. Right. And they're literally filming it. Those poor guys must fall in love so hard. Oh, of course.

Of course. So sad. Yeah, yeah, definitely. The saddest. Can you imagine never really getting laid and then all of a sudden the girl you've been fantasizing about will fuck you and it's on tape? And it's your first one. That's your first one.

The lady you've been jacking off to for the past five years. Even though I never believe that someone's avert like you don't believe it i don't i don't believe that like they might have been a virgin when they flew in but she their first time wasn't on camera i don't think so she probably gave him a handy and you know off camera and then was like but what if they can't get it up a second time what they've been beating off all day like a maniac oh well the porn the porn industry has a solution for all that. Like a needle in your dick? They'll inject you something. They'll give you a pill.

If you don't believe it, Tom Segura has a list of videos I think he can show you that can give you examples of this. Of them shooting? No, there's just a website I know of that he knows of that it's like porn bloopers. We're all sorts of the stuff that doesn't make it onto the normal videos. Oh, yeah.

It's like the cutting room floor scenes. See, I don't like porn bloopers. To me, it reminded me of when you, remember growing up how the comedy TV shows were like Family Matters, Fool House, these shows you were watching, how every now and then they would do like a serious episode that would tell you to stay off drugs or some shit.

Right. I hated that. I didn't come here for that. When I'm watching, I ain't watching porn for laughs. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to beat my dick and keep it moving. I don't want to watch, you know, or it's like when they break character. I hate it when they giggle.

No, don't have fun. Don't have fun. You're there for serious fucking only. Yeah. Well, thankfully for you, there's a lot of categories. Yeah, there are. Is there anything on earth with more variety to choose from than porn? Absolutely not. If you think about like if you looked at each individual clip that's available online as one individual piece of work, is there more porn than any other kind of content?

Yeah. The only exception, the only thing that can even come close to hanging with porn is cat videos. What about TikToks now? TikTok's probably closing in. TikTok is, everything on the internet is mostly porn and cats. It's true. There's a lot of puppy stuff, too. Yeah, yeah. That's what drives tech. Porn drives tech. Yes. It's like the unspoken secret. It really true. There's a lot of puppy stuff, too. Yeah, yeah. That's what drives tech.

Porn drives tech. It's like the unspoken secret. It really does. It drives innovation in terms of like, it drove streaming. VCRs wouldn't have existed if porn videos weren't getting sold everywhere. If Betamax is one, everybody would have a Betamax player. Who streamed 4K first? Porn.

Did they? Yeah. Porn was first with the 4K. Porn proliferated like the VR stuff. You know what's interesting? Industries get bailed out when things happen and they collapse because people say, well, we can't afford to let this industry die off. Like the banking industry. Everybody would lose their money.

We can't do that. Other industries have been bailed out too when things go wrong. But when even people complained about the music industry. Remember when Napster came along? Oh, yeah. Everybody was so upset. So upset. About Napster?

Yeah. Because all of a sudden people are just taking their content for free. But that happened to the porn industry? No one said shit. Tough shit. Yeah. It's like everyone's pretending they don't use it. But they flipped it.

They figured out how to bring it back around. Because now a lot of porn, what they'll do is they'll give you almost the whole video and they'll cut it off at the cum shot. They're like, if you want to see the rest of this... Well, they'll get more

traffic than they would without it, but still more people are going to watch it for free. But I guess it's just like one of those things. You catch as many fish as you can, so I'm going to get out of the net. How much money do you think was spent on OnlyFans last year? How much money was spent by fans? Users spent on the platform last year.

I'm going to say over a billion dollars. It's definitely over a billion dollars. Wow. I'm going to say three billion. Still higher. What? What? I mean, I'm not surprised, but that's...

I'm surprised. Really? That's crazy. $4.8 billion in one year. And remember when... Jamie, you were talking about this yesterday. Are we going to reach a future where every girl is our only... Why wouldn't a young...

If you were 16 and they're like, college, were you going to go $200,000 in debt? Oh, yeah. Or do you want $200,000 in four years and what is your job like what if you get a job out of college it sucks no job it sucks that's all that money and on college any woman that is remotely good looking that's complaining about not having any money i'm like you just yeah but they don't want to do that yeah a lot of girls that don't want that and i understand that but if push come to shove, because nobody wants to be a whore. There's also the line that we dug, or maybe someone else did, like the bad baby, the girl from Dr. Phil's show.

She barely is showing anything, and she makes almost the most money of anyone. Right, but she's wicked famous. Is that the case with most of the girls that are making a lot of money? How much is a lot of money? That's the next arguable point. Like, how much money do you need? Or there's some couples, like a couple do it, like they fuck on camera, they cut their heads off.

Right. And they just, they pay their bills. Right. They frame their heads out. Right. And they just fuck. It's like a push come to shove. It's like a decent proposal.

Right? You remember that movie? Mm-hmm. It's like, yo, babe, this dude wants to fuck you and he'll pay off our house in senauk is the college one time and i i know you don't want to be a whore but let's let's let's at least talk about it you know like most women would be like absolutely not but it's like okay wait a minute now look we're gonna pay off the house babe what do you think would happen if prostitution was completely legal well i think I think, well, first of all, I mean, it would make it safer for the sex workers.

A hundred percent. Because like you said, it's one of those things that everyone pretends like they don't do or they don't participate in it. Everyone watches porn. At least every man watches porn. Well, there's a lot of men who have sworn off of it because they realize they had a problem with it. Yeah. A lot of people talk about that now. There's like a no porn movement amongst some guys because porn,

I think for a lot of people is like gambling. You know, some people just get addicted and they're on it all the time and it frames the way they think about sex. And then some people, they just decide because of that, I'd rather just have none. porn yeah i have a few friends that did that like they don't watch porn it's not a bad move um but it's nice to know it's there

it's always going to be there yeah for other people that but you know it's the gambling argument too like even less so because everybody has sexual urges for the most part not everybody has like gambling urges one of the things i had to argue against in college, I had a debate thing in college. I had to argue that porn was not harm. There's a big move into porn. Its existence is harmful to women. Or that all the women in it are being exploited. And to some degree, that's true.

But most of that is because, like you said, if prostitution was legal, it would cut back on all the exploitation. The thing is, you can't make it illegal because you can't take away a person's right to do whatever they want to do. Like those couples, those couples that cut their heads off, like they frame their heads out so you don't see them. That's 100 percent up to them. You can't tell them they can't do that. What about selling your body? But also, why is it okay to give sex away for free but it's not okay to pay for it?

That doesn't make any sense. It's also okay to pay for it indirectly. Well, it's also okay to pay for massages. Nobody wants to rub your fucking feet. When someone rubs your feet and they get money for it. We allow people to do things they don't want to do that are pleasurable to other people.

Well, the thing is, listen, to me, I look at it just like, OK, it's illegal for me to give a politician money directly. Right. It's also illegal for me to buy them something. Right. Right. But I can't pay a woman for pussy, but I can buy her something. Right. For pussy.

Well, you can pay her. She just can't report it. Right pussy but i can buy her something right for pussy well you can pay her she just can't report it right even though you should did you know that you have to you can still report illegal stuff to the irs like they encourage you to do so really there's a there's a form for ill-gotten gains that's interesting and it's so they you know it's like because that's how they don't get you for tax evasion. Exactly. Which is worse. And legally, technically, they can't use it against you. Isn't that how they got Al Capone? That is how they got Al Capone. It's tax evasion.

He's not the only one. That's how they got Wesley Snipes. But yeah, but Wesley Snipes wasn't a fucking criminal. Oh, yeah. Wesley Snipes was just an actor who got bad advice. Right, right. Capone never fired a federal income tax return claiming that he had no taxable income. That's hilarious.

That's not untrue, right? That's, I guess. He had no taxable income, right? IRS Special Agent Frank Wilson and the T-Men followed the money, gathering evidence that Capone had made millions of dollars on income that was never taxed. Yeah, so that's why the smart ones

like the Russians, they open businesses. They buy businesses. Yeah. And they use those businesses to laundered. Yeah, so that's why the smart ones, like the Russians, they open businesses. They buy businesses. And they use those businesses to launder money. Yeah, well, the smart rich people will... These are criminals, not just rich people. Right. We're talking about crime. Ill-gotten gains.

And it's like, how'd you get a paper trail back when there was hardly no paper? Well, they had houses and cars and fucking... you know, Al Capone was a flashy dude. He was old school mafia, John Gotti style. You know, he was the king of Chicago. Yeah. I can't imagine living like that, though. That's a scary way to live.

Always looking over your shoulder. You know, always having to be afraid. Because, you know, the old saying is like, if you're a criminal, you have to get lucky every day. And the cops only got to get lucky once. You just got to slip up one time and the cop just happened to catch a detail or something. Well, you know the comedy store was owned by the mob. Yeah, when it was C-Rolls, right? Yeah.

It's hard for me to tell because I heard that from the same people that told me it was haunted. It was Bugsy Siegel's. Bugsy Siegel owned the comedy store. Wow. Didn't he make sure that's true? Bugsy Siegel owns Ciro's. He at least was one of the owners. Might have been multiple owners.

Is that what it was? Yeah. Mitzi was originally renting out just the OR. Well, Mitzi took over long after Ciro's was gone. And then another thing came after Ciro's. And then Mitzi took it over after the other thing. Okay.

Mitzi and her husband. So they were never renting it from the mob? I don't believe so. Okay. I think they owned the building. It says it was owned by an entrepreneur, William Wilkerson, but then it says only to have control of the resort rested. Maybe wrestled is what it's supposed to say, from him by mobster Bugsy Siegel.

Oh, so Bugsy Siegel took it from him. Stole it. That probably happened all the time. Do you want to die? Or do you want to just give me your club? You can open up another club, stupid. Yeah, you can have it. Yeah, they just would do that just to flex.

To take shit from you? Just take shit from you. What are you going to do? You can't do anything. There's nothing you can do. Nothing you can do. They'll kill you. Well, back then they owned the police.

They owned everybody. I mean, when there was no real, like, no one was filming things. Like, there was no DNA evidence. Yeah. Come on, man. They just ran shit. That's back when you could just go to jail from a hunch. Do you know how many people are buried in the Nevada desert?

Look how they find these people in Lake Mead. As Lake Mead dries up. They're finding all these dead bodies. They found six dead bodies down there. And some of them are people that drowned. One of them was a guy who drowned saving his son. And his son remembered it. Oh, man. His son's like a grown adult now. It's like

scary. But that's a great way to remember your dad. I guess. Yeah. Your dad saved your fucking life. I mean, there's worse ways. There's worse ways. But there's quite a few people, probably, that they haven't found in Lake Mead that just got fucking shot and dumped there. One guy was dressed like from the 1970s. They found him in a barrel.

You know what? They probably found a lot of motherfuckers if they demolished one of them casinos. Oh, yeah. They found a lot of motherfuckers. Under the cement. Yeah. For sure. There's a lot of bodies down there.

For sure. For sure. They did that just for a goof. That's what Mikey is, that cocksucker, that fucking rat. We buried him right here. For sure. Do you think the mob still exists? 100%.

Just not as powerful? Well, they probably have learned from their mistakes. They probably do it in a way that's a little bit more clever. yeah like the problem with the way john gatti did it like that was like when people think about the mob they think of john gatti and walk around those expensive suits and shit the problem with that is like he was in front of everybody's face like everybody knew it whereas like vincent the chin gigante he would walk around in a bathrobe like he was crazy and he would talk to himself and walk around the neighborhood like he was schizophrenic And that was his hustle. That's how he would like they would say he's running the mob like this crazy guy

Talking to himself the way they caught him is they put microphones They knew the way he walked the route so they put microphones They parked their own cars there and put microphones and all these different cars So as he walked by they could record all the different shit that he was saying damn he's ordering hits and i thought it was gonna be like they did it with bees or like hornets and as soon as one get his face like motherfucker like he just started talking straight normally son of a bitch who the fuck have you ever seen that video of uh of the dude who's a newscaster? His black eyes.

Oh, yeah. That's one of the OG classic. That's one of the classic videos on the internet. He's got the full broadcaster voice going. Motherfucker. It's hilarious. I'm at Thursday here at Augusta High School that led to Chris Wood's death. The fuck is that?

Shit. Ah! that led to Chris Wood's death. The fuck is that? That's amazing. This is one of the best things on the internet ever. It's amazing. But here's the thing. It's like, why can't someone just be themselves and tell you the fucking news? If that's who that guy really is,

why do I need him to pretend that he is neutral broadcast voice man? I don't know where the broadcast voice came from. Like, why do I need him to pretend that he is neutral broadcast voice man? I don't know why. I don't know where the broadcast voice came. Oh, actually, you know what? I have a theory, and I might be right about this. I think it came from when microphones weren't as good, and you had to enunciate for the whole. Very clearly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because when I was In the service We had to be like We had to say Over the radio We had to say numbers A certain way

Like five was fife Like you had to say it Like that So that it got through Because the Crackles and shit So I'm guessing That came from those times

When But I don't know It might have also Come from the theater Where you had to talk Really loud Because there was people In the back of the room

where there was no microphone. So your earliest performances, like live performances, were theaters probably. Or when someone was speaking in front of a large group of people. And when you're speaking in front of a large group of people,

you have to talk like this so they can hear you. Well, I wonder, I'm sure somebody will hit me up. Somebody email me and tell me the answer your recording equipment has something to do with it yeah yes did um what do they still do it what about like the way they used to act in the old old movies were they overacted oh that voice was so a lot of things we do that don't make sense it was just fuck the english yeah so like like

the reason we spell certain words differently and all that, that was on purpose. It didn't just happen naturally. And our old TV voice was like, it was a counter to their, I think it's called, yeah, it was our version of their fucking highfalutin, what they call it over there, posh.

Posh. Yeah, it was a counter to their poshness. We had our own posh voice, and it was that fucking early TV voice. That's interesting. Yeah. That kind of makes sense. Because everyone talked like that back then, or they tried to. Yeah, and then you've got Australian, which is like a drunk English.

Oh, yeah. Wasn't you telling me about this? No, someone told me about this, and maybe I told you after they told me. No, no. Somebody else told me. No, it was Shane Gillis was telling me. this? No, someone told me about this and maybe I told you after they told me. No, no. Somebody else told me. No, it was Shane Gillis was telling us. That's right. That the first it was criminals

and the babies would see their fathers be drunk and the babies started talking like a drunk like they're drunk English fathers. And then that became the Australian accent. That's hilarious. Which I'm not sure if he was 100% sure that was it, but that was one of the theories.

But I'm going to go with that. Well, it is interesting how accents deviate, right? It's like, who was the first guy to talk like someone from Boston? And why did everybody copy that dude? Yeah. You know, the pack your fucking cat. Get over here, Brian Simpson. What the

fuck? It doesn't have to be that far away. No. Distinctive Australian accent is the result of a drunken slur caused by the heavy drinking of the early settlers, according to a communications expert from the country. So it's true. It's not just about pronunciation. Vocal quality or timbre matters as does intonation, the way the pitch of the voice rises and falls. Wow. Vocal quality or timber matters as does intonation.

So that's what it is. All right, Mike. It's fucking better. And then New Zealand is right there and is a completely different. Totally different. Well, also look at the states. You could drive from one state to another state. In the United States, they talk differently.

Yeah. I used to have a joke about it about California. Like people make fun of California accent. Like, I'm sorry, we enunciate clearly. Like California accent is talking like you could hear every word. Oh, right, right. And even within California. Yeah.

Well, in California, there's different accents. There's a lot of people that have kind of like a southern accent as you get into those farmlands and shit. Oh, yeah. And then you can go from Vermont to Boston to New York to Philly to D.C. to Georgia to Alabama to Florida, and it's all different accents. You know? All different. Well, Florida's a mess, right? Because you got Florida accents, but what percentage of Florida's

people that move from the East Coast, from the upper East Coast? A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot more now than ever before, but even when I lived there, there was a lot of people that came from other places that came to Florida. People would escape the cold. My favorite accent is Louisiana. That's a

good accent. New Orleans. Oh, yeah. That's a good accent. Because every, it's such a, it's a good accent. New Orleans. Oh, yeah. That's a good accent. Because every, it's such a, it's a lot of flavor. Jazz. Yeah, yeah. Jazz to it. I like to watch the chefs on social media. Oh, yeah, man. Like, you go on there and hit it with your seasoning there, nah? Yeah, when they're talking about

Cajun cuisine, too. Yeah. Or those guys. Or like Punky John. You know Punky? Sure, I know Punky. Yeah, so Punky just, her story's incredible but she she from new orleans and it's like the way she talked to you just make you feel good yeah we talked about punky when we were at the o2 remember oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i love her i love punky i'm so happy for her i remember her so she's on snl now but i remember when she first got her big tv thing and and I remember watching her on TV while she was working the bar underneath. That's wild.

Yeah. A lot of people don't realize there's no big break anymore. It's a bunch of little breaks. Sometimes you get a big break, but you're better off with little breaks. Yeah. Because if you get little breaks, you can handle a big break. A big break will fuck your head up if it happens all of a sudden. That's why these 20-year-old stars, good luck.

Yeah, I feel bad for them. How do you... Even worse is when they're kids. That's the worst. Growing up a star is like a recipe for mental health problems. It's child abuse. There's very few, like Jodie Foster. I never talked to her, but she seems like she's got her shit together. There's very abuse. It's like, there's very few, like Jodie Foster, I never talked to her,

but she seems like she's got her shit together. There's very few people that were like very famous and Jodie Foster was in fucking Taxi Driver. Think about that creepy movie. Right?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Think about that creepy movie. She was sexualized when she was very, very young in that movie. Or what happened to the kid from, um, from The Professional?

Oh, I don't know. I don't know i don't know that movie that's a heavy fucking this would be one of my favorite movies but we'll try to watch it now and it's like this is natalie oh well yeah she's huge yeah that's right that was her she was really young then what was she how old was she then oh my god she's a little kid yeah that's a crazy and she's like flirting with him through the whole movie. Right. He doesn't flirt back, though, right? No, no, no, no, no.

That's okay. My kids are allowed to pretend. Yeah, but it was like, I think maybe, is it better to be a child star and stay a star? Oh, yeah. Or to just do it real quick and leave? Well, it depends. If you can do it real quick and then find something else that you really enjoy, that's great. And then be successful at it, that's great.

But you remember when Gary Coleman was a security guard? Oh, yeah. He had to get a regular job, and people would fuck with him. Because he was super-duper famous and very recognizable. Want some coffee? Yeah. Or you want some whiskey? No, no, a little coffee.

I'm going to do both, actually. Let's go. You ever watch Game of Thrones? Yes. Okay, you know the Joffrey kid? Yes. He just dipped out. Good for him.

After that, he was like, I don't want to do this anymore. So he's done acting totally? I, that's the impression I got, but. Bro, imagine your first role. You have to play the cunt of all cunts. Oh, yeah. And then when you die, you get poisoned. Everybody's happy. Dude, and I hate it. And here's what's so fucked up i've i've read the books

and i'll never forget being in because because you gotta understand too in this in this show in the in these books there's no justice so he's the he's the first motherfucker that you hope died that dies everyone else that died before that you're like you like them you don't want them to die but he's the first motherfucker was like so i'm dies. Everyone else that died before that, you like them. You don't want them to die. But he's the first motherfucker where it's like, so I'm in the middle of an open mic reading these books. Someone's on stage, and I apologize profusely to this day, but when he died, I lost my shit. I was like, yeah, in the middle of, I'm in the middle of, I'm like, yeah, die, motherfucker. Oh, that's so crazy.

I know, man. I wanted him to die so bad. So I hated this motherfucker from the beginning. And he played the role so well. It's hard to, like, if I saw him in person. You would think of him as that guy. Well, I mean, initially. A little bit.

Yeah, I would try not to treat him that way. But it's still hard. It's like, nah, motherfucker. Your face is associated with evil. Right. Well, some guys, they do a role, and that role nah, motherfucker. Your face is associated with evil. Right. Well, some guys, they do a role, and that role is them forever. Like Archie Bunker with Carol O'Connor. He was Archie Bunker forever.

Yeah, I think what he's going to do. That's him now? Yeah, he just got married. That's Joffrey? Yeah, that's Joffrey. Wow. See, I think he's going to come back as an adult. He looks like a country western star.

He looks like some cool guy who plays country western music with Sturgill Simpson. Doesn't he? He totally does. Good for him. Good for him. Stay normal. Look, he's in church and shit. I gotta imagine just psychologically being a kid and

playing a very, very hated character. You don't have any bright moments on stage where people like you. You have nothing to be proud of. Everything you do is horrible and awful. That's my dream, though. Be an evil person?

No, to play one. In a movie or a TV show? I want to play a villain in something. I want to play a villain so bad. Interesting. Yeah. Why is that interesting? Why are you giving me the judgmental eye?

I'm just interested. Why – what about it is appealing to you? I think – because there's a part of you that wants to – it's a fantasy. It's like there's a part of you that wants to play the villain. Like when I play like RPG video games or whatever, if I can – if there's like a dark or night side, I always play the dark side. So maybe there's a part of you that wants to live that fantasy. But I just think I would do better. I think it's easier to play a bad guy.

And I think I would do better at it. But you're such a nice guy in real life. I'm kind. I'm not nice. guy and I think I would do better at it but you're such a nice guy in real life I'm kind I'm not nice I make that distinction too because I because because I I have to stop myself from being a piece of shit from being mean yeah yeah that's a natural inclination oh My first thought is to be mean. Do you know that Jordan Peterson has this whole saying about becoming hyper-competitive, that people think that you should be docile. And he's like, no, you should be a monster and then learn how to control it.

Yeah, I heard him say that. I like that. Yeah, just be ruthlessly ambitious and learn how to rein it in. And his take on it is a strong man is not a dangerous man. A weak man is a dangerous man because they'll fold on you. They have no character. They have no confidence. And also them being kind or them being pacifists, they don't have an option.

It's like they can't beat people option. Like they, it's like they, they can't beat people up. They can't do anything. So like them being mean is not, that's not even possible. I think physically, especially I have an aversion to shaky people, you know,

shaky people are dangerous. Yeah. They'll fall apart. Or even people that are, that are, you know, kind of chaotic, you know, fall apart. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, I don't know because I had such a chaotic upbringing and it's like, People that are kind of chaotic.

They fall apart. Yeah, because I had such a chaotic upbringing, especially men. When I meet men that are unpredictable, I'm like, I can't fuck with you. You might be the best guy. You might be a nice guy, but I need distance from you because there's no telling what you're going to do. Right. Yeah, you're going to fold. Right.

Yeah, you're going to fold. Right. Yeah, for sure. A weak, because I get what he's saying. It's like, if you're nice because you're weak, you're just being nice because you don't have a choice. Right. You know what I mean? Somebody that could destroy you that chooses not to is more impressive than somebody that isn't doing harm because they can't. Yeah, it's strength through kindness. Yeah. Kindness through strength, rather.

You choose to be nice. You choose to be nice. You choose to be like the person who takes the high road and things because you can go either way. Yeah. You know, that's why when you see like very famous people going after other famous people or going after someone who's not famous, it's always very distasteful. Because this person is in this unusual position of strength and they don't use it the right way There's like a different obligation you have if you're in an unusual position of strength than a person who's just weak See my my first instinct is to always be suspicious of those people Weak people are strong people the people that people are trying to destroy people Yeah, or is like where's like that's their whole thing.

Their whole life is trying to destroy people. I'm always suspicious because they always turn out. To be a piece of shit. Right. For sure. They just want to hurt people. If that's where you put your resources in is destroying other people, imagine. You have so little time in this life. You know how every time

there's a politician whose whole thing is they hate gays and they always turn out to be gay. But people forget that applies to everything. If you're vehemently, if your whole personality is that you're against

something, that's always suspicious to me. It doesn't always turn out to be the case. Right something, that's always suspicious to me. And it doesn't always turn out to be the case. Right, but it's very often the case. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's like the male feminist that's secretly a piece of shit. Oh, yeah.

There's a lot of those guys. The gender traitor male feminists who just want to shoot down other men to make themselves look better. There's a lot of that. And there's women that do that, too. Or some of them are just... It's a human inclination to uh try to diminish other people to at least in appearance advance yourself you know but it doesn't really work it's one of those things like name dropping like name dropping doesn't work like yeah we're hanging out with leonardo dicaprio and quentin tarantino shut the fuck up nobody wants to hear that right you know like you could tell a story if it's a great story that like dude I'm hanging

out with Gary Clark Jr and we're getting high like that's a great story it's not even a name drop it's just a factual story right but if you're telling people these people that you know you're dropping names to try to elevate you socially it has the opposite effect it's weird they look. It has the opposite effect because whoever those people are, you're trying to connect yourself to a bad motherfucker. But the way you're doing it lets everyone know you're not a bad motherfucker, nor do you have the character to become one. Right. It's one step down from like, do you know who my father is? It's right there. Yeah.

It's kind of the same thing. Or do you know who I am? Oh, right there yeah it's kind of the same thing or do you do you know who i am oh yeah yeah same thing which i think in certain situations like if someone tries to pick a fight with hoist gracie oh might be justified right he goes excuse me do you know who i am or like or like if you're about to go on stage at the o2 arena and somebody stops you right before you what happened to you they just didn didn't... First of all, they were English folks. They probably don't know too much about Americans. Americans stand up or...

They probably didn't even know who the fuck I was. The guy did apologize to me, but I'm never gonna stop being so mad. Dude, the lady checked my shit. I was trying to go to the bathroom. Do you have a pass? I go, I'm Joe Rogan. Right, right. This place is sold out. Like, you see me.

I have to take a shit. You see how that whole wall has my face on it? Yeah, that's this. Hey. Right. You know that wall? It's like, come on, lady. I got to take a shit.

Let me through. Because, well, you know what it is? For some people, it's just an honest mistake or whatever. Yeah, it was an honest mistake with her. Or they really don't know who you are or whatever. But some people, and this is part of the reason that turned me off from the service is like some people you they they use the rules as a shield because even though even though they know that because because it's one thing like if okay it's

my show at the arena my name my is everywhere. I walk up on you. You notice me. You don't recognize me. You can't see the picture. And then I go, hey, I'm this person. It's my show. Now, from that point forward, if you continue to go, yeah, but now you're just an idiot that's hiding behind the rules because you know that even though what you're doing doesn't make any sense, you're protected because you followed the rules. Well, there's also a thing when people have power over you, they don't want to relinquish it.

Even if they just have a little bit of power to keep you from going through somewhere. They've already committed to this idea. They're going to stop you from doing something. You know the Stanford prison experiment? I'm somewhat familiar with it. I don't know. I think it's been questioned recently so I think there's some doubt about whether or not it made

sense the way they did it or whether people played it up but what happened was they got these students to pretend to be prison guards and prisoners and they ran this experiment where the prisoners were you know they had to listen to the guards and everybody immediately became a cunt, treated people like dog shit. And they stopped the experiment early.

Yeah. What was the pushback on that? See if we could find it. Because they did a movie about it, right, or a documentary about it. I think there's a thing that people do when they have the ability. It's like a natural inclination. People have been in control of people for so long, whether it's a dictator that controls the population or a general that controls the army or a plantation owner that controls the slaves. There's always been people controlling people forever.

And you know what they would do? They would give one of the slaves a gun and have him be the overseer. You know what I mean? And then now you have power. It's like you have a gun. Oh, shit. And have him be the overseer. You know what I mean? And then now you have power. It's like, you have a gun now. But now you have power over everyone else. Overseer. Isn't that in KRS-One, The Sound of the Police?

Oh, probably, yeah. That song. Whoop, whoop, that's the sound of the police. I was in Brazil In 2003 For the Abu Dhabi World Championships For kickboxing? No, Abu Dhabi World Championships for Jiu Jitsu

Eddie Bravo was over there competing That was the year that he tapped out Hoyler Gracie It was the craziest upset Ever It was insane, insane, in Brazil Is that what blew him up? 100% man. He wasn't even a black belt yet. Eddie was a brown belt. And he tapped out Hoyce Gracie?

Hoyler. Oh, Hoyler Gracie. Hoyler, who was Hoyce's brother, who was more successful even than Hoyce in jiu-jitsu tournaments. He's like one of the greatest Gracies of all time in terms of his accomplishments in winning world jiu-jitsu tournaments. He was the man.

What did he tap him with? A triangle off his back. It was amazing. It was amazing. When he locked it in, he went for an omoplata. Hoyler defended the omoplata and exposed his side. And Eddie had, like we were talking about legs that can move like hands. That's Eddie's legs. He has crazy leg dexterity. He can do a lotus position. Like, he could just, like, put himself in a lotus position. Like, bj-pen can do that, too. Really? They don't have to use their hands.

Like, Eddie Bravo can put his legs behind his head. He has crazy flexibility and leg dexterity. It's very surprising. So if you're in his guard, you're fucked. And Hoyler didn't know it. And he was in Eddie's guard, and Eddie just slapped that triangle on him and then started pulling the head, and then Hoyler tapped, and it was insane.

I was crying. Oh, man. Yeah, I can't imagine. I'll cry right now. Did he even know? Like, did he think he was going to win? Oh, well, he had already beat Gustavo Dantes, who was also a world champion. He tapped him before that.

That was his first match. He got his back and tapped him. And then he had this big match with Hoyler, and they shut off all the other matches and put, like, all the cameras on this one thing. So there's footage? Yes. Oh, I want to see it. Yes, you want to see it?

Yeah. It's one of the greatest experiences of my life Like I get emotional right now. Yeah, I can't even imagine that's true. That's real love for your homie So what so for you to get that emotional because he won it changed his life Yeah, man, because he was always like this like super talented guy and like you know i he and i would talk about it he would talk about all these jujitsu wizards and all these people that were like like super talented i go dude you're a fucking wizard i'm like you're really fucking good like really good and he didn't want to kind of believe it for some strange reason he was very humble about his jujitsu he knew he was pretty good. And then he started winning tournaments.

And he won the Abu Dhabis and the West Coast Trials. And so he made it to Brazil. And so this is him against Hoyler Gracie, who is the fucking man. And Hoyler's on top of him, right? Now, Hoyler has gotten to side control. But Eddie does this thing called the jailbreak. Look how he retains guard. It's the brilliant use of his legs because, again,

he has this insane leg dexterity. So here, Hoyler is defending, and then he catches him. See that? Because Eddie had his wrist, and it looked like he was trying to set up an omoplata, and then he locks him up in a fucking triangle. And look at him squeezing. Hoyler is fucked, and he's trying to get out here. But this is just death.

And then Eddie finally grabs the head. And when he grabs the head with the squeeze, Hoyler's tapping. And that's it. And so Eddie walks up and this is what he said. He said he couldn't believe it, but he walked around with his arms up in the air like he knew it was going to happen. But while he was walking around, like he, he did a play by play of it on my podcast. And while he was walking around, he's like, I can't believe it. I can't believe it. Then Hoyler while he was rocking around he's like i can't believe it i can't believe it then hoyler hugs him and then he looks at me and he goes like this like huh it was one of the craziest things i've ever seen in my life because for him to go there he was such an underdog and he had this very strange style of jiu-jitsu that really he formulated he came up with there was it's not like he invented submissions but he came up with new ways to set things up that were

completely unique to him and his system and that's how he created 10th planet jiu-jitsu it's a very well thought out really effective system especially if you have leg dexterity that's me and him we're holy shit man yeah he's crying my shoulders there are a few things better than watching somebody triumph it's amazing god damn it was crazy because you couldn't believe it you couldn't believe it happened when you're uh i'm pretty spent. Emotional, physical.

Oh, that's him talking about it. Yeah. Going over it. So that was the birth of 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu. And then he came back. John Jock Machado gave him his black belt. John Jock took his black belt off. After this match?

After that match. And put it on Eddie. Whoa. Yeah. God damn. It was wild on Eddie. Whoa. Yeah. God damn. It was wild, man. God damn. It was wild.

So then Eddie started 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu shortly afterwards. Does he say that's the best day of his life? It was one of the best days of his life. One of the best days of my life. It was amazing. And then he came back. I think he was gonna call it like Sumerian jiu-jitsu or something like that I forget because the joke was

like back then Eddie and I would smoke a lot of weed and we would watch documentaries and we would watch the big one was we were really into Zechariah Sitchin Zechariah Sitchin was he was a linguist and a biblical scholar. And he had this belief that if you decoded the Sumerian text, he's like the Sumerian text in his interpretation described a planet that came in an elliptical orbit every 3,600 years close to Earth. And this planet was called Nibiru and that this planet that there's these creatures on this planet called the Anunnaki and that human beings were the product of accelerated evolution so the Anunnaki came down here when we were basically lower primates in the jungle

and they experimented with our DNA and turned us into what we are now. And there's all these depictions of these gigantic beings, and one of them has it on his lap is like a human but with a monkey's tail. Oh. And he believes that that is like pointing to this link and that there's a detailed map of the solar system, which how the fuck did they know that? Right. Six thousand years ago. How did they know that? But it had the sun in the center and has all the planets in the correct orbit, like where they are. And they're all like they're not the exact right size.

But, you know, obviously Jupiter's fucking massive and Earth is small in comparison. But the bigger ones are in the right place So did so that's so that's why he called it 10th planet. So I came up with 10th planet That's my name was he because I was like it's you marry in jiu-jitsu No one's not gonna know what that means man. I go just call it 10th planet jiu-jitsu like this shit is so crazy It's from over there was he pissed when when pluto got demoted no we never counted that oh okay when when pluto got demoted like you says you says you i grew up it was a fucking planet fuck you it's got a name bitch that's a planet i think the problem is pluto so small

i think pluto is smaller than the moon well which is weird oh by the way the Sumerians counted the moon as a planet I believe because they called Nibiru the 12th planet we came up with 10th planet Jiu Jitsu was just Eddie and I getting high brainstorming names for the academy

I think Pluto doesn't clear its orbit oh it's not the biggest. So basically, the biggest thing in that plane basically moves everything out of the way. Pluto is about two-thirds the diameter of Earth's moon. Smaller than the moon. Probably has a rocky core surrounded by a mantle of water ice. Interesting, ice is like methane and nitrogen frost coat the surface. Due to its lower density, Pluto's mass is about one-sixth of Earth's moon. Whoa, you could fly on Pluto. Just jump through the surface. Due to its lower density, Pluto's mass is about one sixth of Earth's moon.

Whoa, you could fly on Pluto, just jump through the air. Just like Superman. That's the idea about Superman. He came from an environment that's so dense that when he comes to Earth, he could just fly. He'd just jump? Yeah, but the problem with that is biologically, we know that what happens to people when they're in zero gravity is their bodies deteriorate, like, very rapidly. Your bone density deteriorates very rapidly. Like, those guys that go up there for, like, six months, when they come down here, they're fucked up, man. They can barely walk.

That's one of those people that want to go, like, volunteer to be the first ones to go to Mars. It's like, y'all are dying. That commander, Chris Hadfield, we had him on the show. He said, dear Mooncrow, I was telling you about the other day. These guys are all going to take a trip around the moon. When is that happening? Before the end of the year is supposed to right now. Other things could stop that from happening.

But shouldn't they send a chicken out there first? I mean, I know that they lied about the CIA killing Kennedy. Are we sure they told the truth about everything that happened? I mean, do so many things and go wrong. So many things. Steve Aoki, don't do it, Steve. Steve, I love you. Don't do it.

Steve Aoki's a musician, right? Yes. He's fucking cool as shit. All these people are like creators and people that do stuff. Oh, you mean none of them are astronauts? Steve, catch the flu. Don't do it. So this isn't the whole crew.

No, this is it. Yeah, they're flying in in the SpaceX autonomous dragon capsule. Oh, hell no. This is a goddamn science fiction movie gone awry. They're going to be on a planet fighting off dinosaurs. It's fine. Oh, have you seen that ad for that new movie with Adam Driver? Oh, yeah, yeah.

It looks dope as fuck. Yeah, I was like, this is like dark. They go back 65 million years ago with modern weapons from the future. What's the matter? But when does it come out, though? Oh, I thought you just screamed. Someone bit you. Oh, yeah, here it is.

Yeah. Look at this. Yeah, I'm excited about this. This looks exciting. This is Commander Mills. My ship was hit by an undocumented asteroid. And... Transporting 35 passengers...

On a long-range exploratory mission. Send help. I almost want to stop now. It looks too good. Dude, it's good. I'm going to see it. No, no, no. You need to see some of this.

They did a great job. No, they did a great job with this. You already know it's dinosaurs, bitch. I ruined it. Let's go see it. You already know it's dinosaurs, bitch. I know, so let's go see it. I already ruined it. I've located one survivor. A child.

Sam Raimi, so you know it's going to be really good. The atmosphere is breathable. There's something alien out there these dinosaur footprints. Oh shit Yeah, see they just give you a little touch here and there 65 that's good 65 million years ago. Oh, the name of the movie, 65? Yeah. Because it's about the age of the dinosaurs.

It goes back in time somehow. It winds up on Earth 65 million years ago. Oh, hey. Oh. That's a great trailer, though. Damn it. There's another good trailer I just saw, too. I'm not going to play it now, but the Oppenheimer trailer for Christopher Nolan's movie looked really fucking sweet.

Yeah, that's Christopher Nolan. The one thing I hate about him. Another guy who makes amazing movies. The one thing that bothers me about when they do asteroids in movies, asteroid fields, they make it seem like there's no way you would come close to an asteroid and just be surrounded by a whole bunch of other ones. They're so far apart. It's like the way they always show them in movies is completely wrong.

I never even thought of that. Yeah, there's no way you would have to, like, dodge between. It's just, no. But that's all the great Star Wars scenes. Right, I know. It makes for better action, but it's just, no. But that's all the great Star Wars scenes. Right, I know. It makes for better action, but it's just, it's so inaccurate. It bothers me because I know. I wish I didn't.

Too late. Yeah, ignorance is bliss. It's like, you ever heard Neil deGrasse Tyson break down the movie Gravity? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, her hair would not be like this. And everybody's like, stop! The space stations are not that close to each other. Stop! It's right. It's like, let's talk about it after the movie yeah you can ruin this shit imagine watching a movie like that with him oh yeah you can tell you know he probably

this is not possible he probably loses his mind and lord of the rings he's like magic is not real hey hey neil yeah well he he goes so far with his skepticism though that he's not open-minded to the possibilities that like alien life has visited Earth. I'm not saying that it has, but he said, what is so interesting about us? We had an argument about it, one of the rare times I've ever disagreed with him. I'm like, we are so insane. We have nuclear weapons. We shoot video through the sky.

We'll go to South America to study a rare frog, right? They'll still spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on these Expeditions to find these little deer that people can't see in Vietnam like they're still alive They've done that before like what you you don't think that a curious alien would want to look at a species that's on the verge of Changing what type of civilization it is. They're becoming integrated with technology and computers. Artificial intelligence is ready to emerge.

Gene editing is a real thing that's being practiced right now and in levels that we probably aren't even aware of. This is just, we know that one story because one guy got busted and he went to jail, but we know they did it. Okay. So how many of them did they do that they didn't tell us about? Maybe they decided like it may be better if we just shut the fuck up. See, I feel like every time I'm on here, we talk about the Fermi paradox because that's really what it boils down to. It doesn't necessarily.

No? No, because we don't have the ability to see these places. No, because we don't have the ability to see these places. We don't have the ability to, we really don't have detailed imagery of any other planet. We have very rough estimations of the temperatures. I shouldn't even say rough. I should say they're not precise. Right.

Right? So we don't know exactly what it's like there. We don't know if there's life there. We don't know what kind of life that would be like a life that could breathe a completely different environment, different kind of air than we breathe with different levels of gases. It's totally possible. If things breathe underwater, the only example we have is earth,

but even on earth, we have so many variables. Things breathe under fucking water, man. I mean, we drown in there. They die up here like fish that's nuts there's a live shit everywhere even places where you would think

shit would be like like they um they found they found life around those volcanic vents those vents on the ocean floor like acidic like nothing should be able to be alive there and it's like a thousand degrees is coming out of there. Yeah. But also if I think if aliens, because mathematically they definitely exist. At least it seems like highly likely that some life is out there, right? Highly likely. But if I feel like a species that was sufficiently advanced to be curious about us and study,

we wouldn't be able to tell that they were here. That's true too. Unless they wanted us to know they were here or unless they are not quite as advanced like if there is an infinite like universe that we're dealing with and there's planets where life forms could have developed in a much more stable environment where they don't get hit by asteroids and they get to not just like where we are, which is like a million years of evolution from the lower primates, but like 300 million years. Like what if they just stay alive

and they just continue to advance to the point where they're literally like gods. They can travel through black holes. They can transcend space and time. They can instantaneously appear in any spot in the universe they want to. The question would be would they want us to know about them yet? See, or even crazier

than that. I remember when we were in London I was talking to Graham. Graham Hancock. Yeah, Graham Hancock. How great was that dinner? Oh, it was awesome. Graham Hancock and Guy Ritchie. Yeah, because I remember when he first started telling me about his theory, it was almost like he

expected me to be like, shut your stupid ass. He expected me to react completely negative, and he was shocked that I was listening. I'm like, no, I want to hear what you got to say. I don't know shit. His theory is based on Asteroidal Impacts. His combined with Randall Carlson's.

He thinks that there may have already been a more developed human species that got wiped out. And they could have sent someone to another place. It's totally possible that anyone who can build the pyramids could build anything. If you can make that, we would struggle to make the pyramids today. And I know people love to say, oh, human beings could do it. Sure. We could do it. Sure. We could do it, but you have to realize there's 2 million, I think it's 2,300,000 stones in the

Great Pyramid of Egypt. And some of them are cut from a quarry that's hundreds of miles away. And these are massive, massive stones that were cut with such precision that in many cases, when you're inside the pyramids before, like on the outside, everything's fucked up because it used to be covered in limestone, but people looted it and they broke off the limestone they built cities with it and shit okay horrible they built a lot of like cairo apparently the early days the people stole limestone from the great pyramids that's how goofy people are so that's all rough and fucked up on the outside but it didn't used to be like that it used to be flat and smooth to the point where it's probably polished and reflective. Like they don't know exactly what it looked like,

but they know that the precision inside in some of the areas like where you look at the stones, you can't even get a razor blade in between those rocks. And these are massive stones. And the amount of calculations that are involved and the amount of precision that has to be involved. And to take this design where you're stacking stones, you can't have any errors when you get to the top. You have so many stones, a millimeter here, a millimeter there. You get to the top, you're all fucked up. Do you think that Neil's skepticism comes from,

because the other side of it is the speed of light because that's the big, huge barrier, right? It's like for us to be visited by an alien species, they would have had to have figured out a way to get around that, either to go faster than the speed of light or to have some kind of workaround like warp bubbles or whatever the fuck that we. I think that's more likely it.

Yeah, because. I think the way we're thinking about it is very archaic. The fire comes out the back. I think we're thinking about it like a catapult. You know, like back when they had a catapult, like this is a shit, bro. I got the new catapult. It's like the staccato 390 catapult with the fucking cut the ropes and that fucking rock goes flying. That was as good as anybody.

No one ever thought like missiles would come out of jets. You have a hypersonic jet. It's shooting fucking missiles. That's the thing. You talk to futurists and they're always wrong. Yeah, you can't be right. You have rough estimates and guesses. Talk about future like futurists in the 20s.

Oh, yeah. Didn't picture airplanes. They thought everyone would have a blimp. Like everyone will have a personal blimp. That's what they thought. Dude, I had a dream about that once. I had a dream, a world. I can't remember if it was a thousand or a million Nikola Teslas.

I'm like, think about what that guy was able to create and the ideas that he came up with by himself. And imagine if there was a million of those guys a million a million Nikola Tesla's a million insane geniuses that create transcendent technology that we enjoy today I mean he was trying to broadcast electricity through the air and wanted to give it to people for free but think about how think you know if there's a old I think Voltaire quote where he says something to the effect of like, I'm less impressed with Einstein's brain than the near certainty that, you know, people just as intelligent are like are dying in sweatshops and slave

fields and shit. It's like, imagine if, because all the geniuses we got, it was just a, it was luck of the draw, like we got Nik it was luck of the draw. We got Nikola Tesla at the right time with the right family, with the right money, with the right education. Or like Sir Isaac Newton, he was born a rich kid. If he had been born a serf, we'd be 100 years behind. That's probably totally true what you're saying. So I want to go.

If I ever had Elon money, like fuck you money, I would start a foundation that went around the world trying to find those fucking kids. Like, go find, go pull the smartest motherfuckers. How about better yet, create them. Create, oh, shit. With CRISPR? Not just that, but also with education. I mean, a lot of it is access to things. It's the things, like, if you read, like, Malcolm Gladwell's The Outliers, one of the things that he'll talk about with certain incredible success stories, it's like the access that they had to all these different things that could help them.

Like Bill Gates, he had access to the computers at the university when he was a kid and learned how to code very early on. He was involved in it super early on. I hate all these motherfuckers that act like, all of these tech people try to act like, oh, we started in the garage. And they fail to mention that garage was attached to a mansion. Yeah, but it's still impressive. It's impressive to feel like what Apple is, that it actually did start in a garage. Like Amazon, you ever seen the desk that Jeff Bezos used to have? Oh, yeah, yeah.

And he had it on like, he had Amazon written on like white paper. Yeah, it was like one of them vinyl signs. Yeah, but you know what? His parents still loaned him like a quarter million dollars. That's true. Is that true? Yeah. Quarter million?

I don't know exactly how much it was, but it was that or over. That's the Trump story too. Yeah. He got loaned millions of dollars by his dad and that's what i mean it's like access to the resources to yeah look at that ultimately loaned him 245 000 in 1995 by 2020 basis had transformed this into 1 trillion through the investment wow that ain't bad it's a good good return but you know what i was i was i was talking about just the other day? You know what makes me feel sorry, though, for billionaires like

him? Is they can't really complain. They can't really complain. You know, it's like when we flew to London, I called my mother and complained. And she was like, what? You know, it's like you can't complain to people that

have less than you. That's true. It's fucked you can't complain to people that have less than you. So you can only like, that's true. It's fucked up that him and Elon, him and Elon got beef because they really, the only two is like, because you obviously you can complain to your therapist or you can call, but somebody that really gets it,

who the fuck else gets what it's like to be a trillionaire? Why do they have beef? What is the reason? I think it was, I think it's just competition. Like you said, they're competitive, ruthless motherfuckers and bezos bezos went to space first i really think that's what it is i mean i would love to ask one of them but i think i would think that you'd be encouraging as many people as possible to develop space travel especially like billionaires or imagine if you're

the richest man in the world and you wake up tomorrow and there's somebody else maybe it's like a premise thing like if you do a bit on a certain premise then someone else is doing a bit on that premise you're like motherfucker yeah sometimes it just gets created like i remember hearing a long time ago like when tiktok first started getting popular like the number one girl on tiktok is like you know and she didn't she woke up one day she was number two she hated that bitch i think it's just it's just part just that competitive part of you that's just like, you don't really hate the person, but you see them as your opponent. Right, right, right.

But I don't know. But it's weird that they've never had dinner together. Because who else are you going to talk to? Maybe a Saudi prince? Right. Who the fuck else are you going to complain to about billionaire problems? Right. And the Saudi prince thing.

Remember when they hacked his phone. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They use that Pegasus software on his phone. He opened up a WhatsApp link. Yeah, that's dumb. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, that's dumb. Why would you click on a WhatsApp link?

You don't know. It's from your friend. Your friend, the billionaire. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows what Your friend, the billionaire. Oh, yeah. Yeah, who knows? Who knows what goes down? But also, why would they need to... It's Game of Thrones, bro. It really is. They're playing Game of Thrones, but they're doing it in a different way.

Because I know that when you get to that point, it's not even about the money anymore. It's about winning. I don't think Jeff Bezos is checking his balance. How could he? Probably fluctuates by a billion dollars every now and again. Doesn't it? They always say they lost $11 billion in this thing.

What? Amazon stock price lost the most money in American history. It don't seem to be affecting him at all. No. He's on a level, but also probably, but he's retired. He's not the CEO of Amazon anymore? No.

Oh. So he just has the stock. He's just balling on the yacht. So why not just sell all the stock? I don't know what he's doing, man. Oh. Maybe that's part of the agreement. He can't sell the stock. That's the thing.

But what do you do when you can do anything? You do what he does. You just chill on the yacht? Do testosterone, start lifting weights, get a yacht, become a baller. Yeah, I mean, his yacht's pretty impressive. They just put out a picture of his yacht the other day. It's ridiculous. It looks like a small city.

It's ridiculous. Elon Musk doesn't even own a house. What? Yeah, he just borrows people's houses. It's ridiculous. Elon Musk doesn't even own a house. What? Yeah, he just borrows people's houses. Really? Yeah. What's the... He says it's an attack vector.

So when people talk shit about him being rich, like, I don't even own a house. He doesn't. He's got all that money, but he's like, your possessions, like your extravagant possessions that people look at, those are attack vectors. He's just brilliant. It's very smart.

Oh, so people attack you because you have them. Yeah, well, that's like, they point to that. Like, people are pointing to Jeff Bezos' yacht. We know he has, what does he have, like, a hundred and... Did you know he's one of the first shareholders in Google? Kapow! Jeff Bezos? He's the 50th K invested in 1998. Oh, wow. How about that? 3. the first shareholders in Google? Kapow. Jeff Bezos? $250K invested in 1998.

Oh, wow. How about that? 3.3 million shares in Google stock. Oh, my goodness. Worth $3.1 billion in 2017. Oh, my goodness. That's a nice return on your investment. Elon or Bezos?

$245,000. What was the initial investment? $250K in 1998. Yeah, but I feel like- He took his parents' money and put it in there. I feel like people are attacking him anyway. People don't like you anyway. Just go buy some shit.

Well, they're definitely still attacking Elon, right? But what he says is that a house is an attack vector, meaning that's something that people point to. If I had Elon money and somebody attacked me on Twitter, I would show up at their house and give them $100,000 and be like, go back on Twitter and say something nice. Wow. You'd be doing that all day long for the rest of your life. Right. No, you can't do that. And that's how you'd starve to death.

Yeah. You'd never have time for anything else. Did everybody would be lining up to curse you out? You'd be exhausted. And people would get mad. Like, $100,000 only takes you so far. I'm back. I'm back on the Elon hating train.

No, he just banned the guy. You know, there's a Twitter account called like Elon's Jet. Yeah. And the guy was telling people when his jet was taking off and landing, which is a little creepy. How is he getting the information? It's publicly available. But is it sort? I think it's more complicated than that.

I think you have to take data from multiple different places. Right, right. And what he's doing is he's putting all that data together. Is that fair to say? Is that accurate, Jamie? It says ADS-B data, which is publicly available records, but then you've got to put it together and find probably

tail numbers and stuff, and then he's the one saying this is him. Yeah, I think right. I think he's putting it together from publicly available information, but it's still a little creepy. Why? What is the point? I don't know. He said he started to do it because he was a fan of Elon's, and then he wanted $50,000.

And then Elon offered him money to stop, or offered him a job to stop. I don't know what happened with that. I don't know what the exact specifics were, but there was some sort of a discussion about Elon giving him money or something like that. The thing is, he says it's a safety issue. And I feel like if the richest man in the world is telling you, hey, man, what you doing making me feel unsafe?

And I need you to stop. And here's some money. I think you got to take that deal because... He offered 5K and then... Oh, that's not enough. Countered off the guy who runs the account, asked for 50K, saying he'd use the money for college and to possibly buy a Tesla Model 3. And that was, I guess, their last public exchange maybe.

Oh, wow. That's not a bad- Look, that kid saying that, that's a good deal. It said he was a high school senior when it started, then he kept it going during the pandemic. Yeah, 5K's not enough. June 2020. Elon, you've got to make an offer they can't refuse kept it going during the pandemic. 5K is not enough. June 2020. Elon, you got to make an offer they can't refuse.

But here's the problem. How does this prevent other people from doing the exact same thing and doing the same thing trying to get more money? Like, when does that end? If that's an industry now? Tracking Elon's jet? Well, that's also why I think it was a mistake to

go public with it. Because the DMs weren't public until he made them public. Until the guy running the account made it public. But is it a mistake for him? Because it's getting him a lot of attention. People are paying attention to it. He might be able to monetize it. It's weird, though.

It's definitely weird. And I would not like it at all. I don't think it's a nice thing he got he got more scrooges than me because if i had a trillion dollars i had somebody knocking on your door hey listen you want to make me uncomfortable i'm gonna make you i'm gonna make your whole family uncomfortable i'm we're not gonna hurt you but we're gonna make you uncomfortable if you won't stop doing this i already offered to pay you then i want revenge. I'm petty like that. And that's probably not the smart move. What are you allowed to do?

Do you think you're allowed to film someone and put them, every time they're out in public, put it on a website and tell everybody where they are? You know? Because he could hire somebody to do that. That could be stalking. Is that stalking? I think it depends on how you gather the information. What if you just track that guy's car?

Say, I'm tracking his car. Let's see what kind of carbon emissions this guy puts out. Yeah, yeah. I'll track his cars. I'll track all his Ubers. We'll measure out. Because you're not carbon neutral if you're riding in an Uber. You get real petty.

You're riding in someone else's car. Real petty like that. You get real petty. If you decided to do that and decided to say, are you doing it because you think you want to shame me for flying a private jet? Because that's the thing that a lot of people do. Like Taylor Swift and all these people that talk about climate change, like, look what you're doing, Leonardo DiCaprio.

You're flying around a private jet. Taylor Swift doesn't fly on a private jet? Of course she does. Of course she does. But they give her a hard time about it. They give everybody a hard time about it. The Kardashians, they give them a hard time about it. They take so many trips and they could have driven there. It would have only taken 18 hours. People get crazy. I think one of them was like they wanted to drive four hours like what she's not driving four hours all right okay get it out of your head also also

dude a lot of people don't realize too is like when you reach a certain level of celebrity you can't travel regular you like you just can't do it like because you you people swarm you they mob you they stalk you they slip shit to you it's like you you and maybe maybe flying private isn't it's like you definitely can't go to the airport bill gates can't sit in first class exactly too many people would tell him you put a microchip in my brain it's like it's like bill gates it's like because here's the other thing too it's like you fly motherfucker you you fly you fly commercial it's like you could drive too but you ain't about to do that well it's like the argument would get down to everybody needs to be on an electric bus and then the problem is like how

you power in the electricity hey listen the second they come up with some, like, some shit where they can, you know, safely, like, some hyperlink shit, where they can safely, like, zoom you at 500 miles an hour, I'm going to be a proponent of that. Those accidents are going to be horrific. The accidents? Accidents. 500 mile an hour accidents. You know they're going to happen. But they don't happen that often in, like, Japan. Often is not a word I ever want to hear.

When you're talking about 500 mile an hour accidents. Oh, yeah, the first one's going to be brutal. They're having deaths in Florida right now, and the train doesn't even go that fast. How fast is it? How fast? Fuck that. I feel like it's less than 100 miles an hour, but people are trying to cross. They think it's a slow train, so they try to cross the tracks,

and a fast train comes through. It says 55 people. It's killed at least 55 people in Miami-Dade. It's on the screen. Broward and Palm Beach counties. Jesus Christ. Since it's debuted three years ago. It's like one a month, I guess.

That's a lot. Man, one a month. That's a lot, dude. They even stopped it for a while because it was happening so much. How are they dying? Oh, but you know what? They're trying to cross and they think they have time. Oh, my God.

Collisions. Look at the picture. They're putting this old-ass train on the old track. I mean, this new train on the old tracks. Well, we don't have new tracks. That's the other problem. Yeah, that's crazy. Oh, my God.

This is insane. Do they check all those tracks? No. No. No. Right now, they have police at most of the crossings to stop people. Oh, Jesus Christ. I think a lot of this has happened during testing.

It's not even fully operational. I've been on an Amtrak train because when I lived in L.A., I would catch the train down to San Diego. I prefer the train over driving or flying because it gives me time to read. When I'm just sitting there and traveling, I can read and listen to shit. You know what I mean? It's like a two, three-hour train, but I've been on it twice when it's hit someone. Oh, my God.

Yeah. And their whole procedure is they stop the train and they have to wait. They survived. They survived. Oh, my God. Did you see that? Is that the lady in the Prius that tried to drive and the train hit her? Might have been.

She's a small car. Okay, so wait a minute. She hit the gas and she just panicked. She tried to get it across before the train. The train hits her car and just clips the corner of it. So these Brightline trains, all these deaths are from not the train crashing? Correct. No, they're from people crashing into the trains,

trying to get across the tracks in their cars. Yeah. See, if one of the things hit you at 500, though, you're not surviving that. You're paced, bro. Yeah, well, they hit the corner of her car. Did she get injured? Yeah, I'm sure she got injured. She got rocked.

I mean, the car gets destroyed. Yo, did you see that clip? car gets destroyed. Yo, did you see that clip? It was a couple months ago where like where a police officer pulled a woman over. He stopped his car on the train tracks.

Put her in the back of the car while he went to go deal with the other passenger. And then the train started coming. Oh my God. And he fucking left that bitch. He left her in the car. Oh my God. Yeah, she didn't die. Oh, my God. And he fucking left that bitch. He left her in the car. Oh, my God. Yeah.

She didn't die, though. Oh, my God. Yeah. Have you seen that? Oh, my God. He didn't have time to get her out? Here it is right here. Yeah.

She's in the back of that cruiser. And he's like, fuck it. Fuck it. No way. Oh, no way. Yeah. No way. This is from inside the car. She's like, let me out of here, bitch. Oh, my God. Oh, no way. Yeah. No way. This is from inside the car.

She's like, let me out of here, bitch. Oh, bro. Dude, I don't want to see this. I don't want to see this. You're freaking me out. That's tough right there. Oh, my God. What happened to that cop?

Oh, who knows? Who knows? I never got a follow up. He left the car on the tracks. Yeah, man. That's so insane. And I forget what his reasoning was. I forget what he said, but it's like.

How could he? How do you justify that? That's just a fuck up. You fucked up real bad. You fucked up real bad. And that's cause. And she didn't die though. Oh my God.

That's insane. I think she broke all her bones. Oh my God. Oh my God. Jesus Christ, bro. Yeah. Hit by a fucking train. At the very least, aren't you pretty much forgiven for whatever thing you got arrested for?

What if it was just like meth? I don't know. I forget what her crime was. Maybe it was- She got caught with meth. It was probably something like that. But it's like, yeah, but we can't talk about that in court. It was probably something like that.

But it's like, yeah, but we can't talk about that in court. What prosecutor going to prosecute you when you just got fucked up? Not just that. Like, for sure she's going to sue. Oh, yeah. I would sue. If she's still alive. I mean, who knows how badly injured.

She might be still alive, but for how long? She got seriously injured. It says lost teeth, left arm broken, multiple fractured ribs, injuries to heads and legs. Jeez. Head and legs, sorry, not multiple heads. But she can still walk, right? It says she's alive. I'm looking.

It says two cops charged for leaving woman in vehicle. Oh, my God. Yeah. But in the one cop, I mean, first of all, who you fucked up at was stopping your car on the tracks. Yeah, why did the cop stop his car on the tracks? For sure. And why did he get it out of his fucking car? Like, the whole thing is bonkers.

Yeah, it's insane. I mean, did she try to escape or something? Did he try to put her back in? I don't know what the story was. Two police officers have been charged with multiple felony and misdemeanor counts stemming from an incident in which they allegedly placed a handcuffed female suspect in a patrol car that was then hit by a train. Oh, my God. Five counts of reckless endangerment, one count each of obstructing a highway or other passageway, careless driving, and parking. And you definitely don't get to call your son, because he didn't even try to save her.

That's so scary, dude. I mean, probably nothing he could have done. It might not have been, right? I don't know how much time there was in that. I mean, he was on the tracks. He might not have been able to do anything to get out of the way. Which is like, what, did you die with her? She was charged with one count of felony menacing.

She got charged? No. Before that or after that? Luis Gonzalez suffered serious injuries following the collision and has since been released from the hospital. She is charged with one count of felony menacing, according to the District attorney's office. Still?

I mean, this is when... It's like, nah, I'm gonna need y'all to drop that. I'm gonna need y'all to drop that. How insane is that they're still charging her? Nah. It's obviously still ongoing,

I believe, so I don't know that it's even made it to court yet. Yeah, because you can get charged with stuff and then they'll decline the prosecution. That's happened to me before.

What does menacing mean? Like she's threatening somebody? Let's see. I'll decline the prosecute. That's happened to me before. What does menacing mean? Like she's threatening somebody? Let's see. I'll Google felony menacing. That's the craziest case of karma ever, if that's the case. Menacing. Wikipedia says, A criminal offense generally defined as displaying a weapon with the intent of placing another person in fear or imminent physical injury or death.

Oh, she pulled a weapon on somebody. So who knows what that story is? Public menacing. Who knows what that story is? Yeah. The problem with that is like, who knows what that person did? Who knows if she was defending herself?

But imagine getting hit by a train and then still having to go to prison. Oh my God, That's so insane. Because ultimately, she didn't harm anyone. Right. She scared them. Yeah.

So imagine still having to go to prison with all your bones broken and everything. Does it say with the intent? I'm looking right now. I'm trying to reel back on the story on why they pulled her over. Can you read the definition again? Of what? Menacing? Yeah.

Oh, sorry. Does it say with intent? Listen to me like I'm a fucking lawyer I just want to clarify for the record your honor the definition of the dictionary says suggesting the presence of danger threatening a menacing tone of voice To be menacing to someone is occurring when an individual knowingly places another person in fear by means of threat or physical action. So yeah, that would be intent. Oh, but that's just – that's not a weapon though.

I thought you said it was a weapon. The first thing I read was Wikipedia. I'm reading multiple definitions. So if I go, bitch, I'll kill you, that's menacing? Isn't that assault? Probably menacing. No, it can't be assault, right? Or is there verbal assault? Yeah, assault is just making someone afraid.

Again, here's the Wikipedia so we can read that again. Menacing or brandishing in a criminal offense. Oh, is a criminal offense. So, or brandishing. Generally defined as displaying a weapon, but it's generally. Okay, generally defined. But it could be like what if someone was an MMA fighter and they were threatening to beat your ass? Oh, yeah, because you could be menacing by stalking.

Oh. Idaho has a different definition than Ohio, so it's, you know. Okay. Well, so something.

Who knows? So just threatening, probably. Just threatening somebody. Yeah. Who knows? But Jesus Christ, getting hit by a fucking train.

You know, Matt Hughes, former UFC welterweight champion, got hit by a train. No. Yeah. Yeah, he has been recovering over the last few years using a lot of stem cells. Oh, yeah, I do remember this. Yeah, that bio-accelerator place in Columbia, which a lot of MMA fighters go there and they have great results. in Columbia, which a lot of MMA fighters go there and they have great results.

He's going there and he's done a bunch of videos of him there doing different stem cell therapies. Here's what happened to begin with. It says multiple law enforcement agencies responded to a report of road rage incident involving a firearm in Fort Lupton on Friday evening. A Playville police officer stopped Rios Gonzalez's car just past a set of railroad tracks and parked the patrol vehicle on the crossing. She was placed in the back of the police vehicle which was hit by the train as officers were

searching her car. Oh my god. They were searching her car while they parked their car on the fucking train with her in it. So there's no excuse for that. No. I mean, how the fuck do you not know the train's coming?

Yeah. And you're a cop in this area? And then they could hear it. It wasn't like it was a quiet train. But both of them, they were probably just so locked in, and then by the time they realized it was coming, they were like, bro. I mean, what the fuck? You definitely don't get to be a hero. Imagine being in that fucking car when that train's coming.

Woof. Yeah. That's a crazy way to go. Because being in a situation where you know, where you really know that there's harm coming. They've gotten rid of people that way too, you know. What do you mean? Parked them on the tracks. Oh, yeah.

Like murdered them and then parked them on the tracks. Definitely. Tape your hands at a steering wheel. Do you know that's how they found out about the drug trafficking in Mena, Arkansas? No. Yeah, there was a guy named Barry Seal, and he was going back and forth. I guess it was Columbia.

Why does that name sound familiar? Because they did a movie on him with Tom Cruise. I think it's called American Made. Is that what it's called? It's a great fucking movie. But, you know, Barry Seals is not handsome like Tom Cruise, so it's weird. But the movie's great.

Wow, Tom Cruise played this motherfucker? Yeah, that's Barry Seals. He didn't gain weight or anything. He's like, fuck you. Tom Cruise is like, hey, man, I can't look like that. I'm not going to look like that. I'm Tom motherfucking Cruise. I can pretend. Now go. Tom Cruise is like, hey, man, I can't look like that. I'm not going to look like that. I'm Tom motherfucking Cruise. I can pretend.

Now, go see Tom Cruise in American Made. Now, watch the difference of what his character looks like. He just looks like a wild man. Just got some crazy hair. That's it. Damn, I've never seen this movie. Well, it's a true story. Well, the movie is, you know, obviously a dramatic adaption of a true story.

They took some dramatic license, some theatrical added things. They had creative power over the storyline a little bit. But in it, Barry Seals gets pardoned by Bill Clinton. For what? There was something that happened where he got in trouble, and he said, call this number, and Bill Clinton lets him off the hook. While he's president? In the Tom Cruise movie, yeah.

In the Tom Cruise movie. There's like a scene right here. Yeah. This supposedly happened. Play it. I'm Dana Simbode. He's just been arrested. State Attorney General.

You've got DEA, ATFF FBI all wanting their pound of flesh Quite a room. Yeah. Well you hit two trifecta didn't you I mean guns drugs money laundering And the state of Arkansas is gonna rip the bark right off of you boy We are gonna put you in a four by six cell for the rest of your life. That's a long time. Yeah. Miss Sabota, I have Governor Clinton on the line.

He says it's urgent. Come here. What's your cover? So this is Tom Cruise just talking to all these cops that think he's going to jail for the rest of his life. I get all y'all caddies. Have them here this afternoon. who's just talking to all these cops that think he's going to jail for the rest of his life. You'd do that for all of us? Yes, sir, I would. I'd get all y'all caddies, have them here this afternoon. What are you trying to do, Seal? Add another 20 for bribery? Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm just offering y'all caddies for your troubles.

What troubles, Seal? Well, bring me down here for one. See, I'm going to walk out of here. I'm going to walk out of here. I'm gonna walk out of here. I Read a damn thing any one of you can do about it Do it sticks his arms out to get unhandcuffed. So this is in the movie. It at least implies, without specifically saying it.

Does he deny this? Yo, when that motherfucker, when his memoirs come out, that's going to be a motherfucker. So, this is what happened. These kids died on this train track in Mena, Arkansas. And the police reported that the police report stated that they were intoxicated and they fell asleep on the train track. And that's how they died. wounds on the kids. And so they knew that the kids had been murdered and placed there. So an investigation started. And then during the investigation, they realized that that was where Barry Seale would do his drug drops. So he would fly into these airports and instead of flying in with giant bags of cocaine and then getting arrested when he landed, he would throw them out the back of a fucking plane with parachutes and they would land

like these back or i don't know if they had parachutes they just throw these bags out at like you know a low altitude okay and he had drop points where he dropped these bags and one of these these two kids one of these bags landed and they saw it and they went over and started fucking with it and then when the people went to find and retrieve the bag they found these kids and they saw it and they went over and started fucking with it. And then when the people went to find and retrieve the bag, they found these kids and they murdered them. And so then people started talking and then they found the story of this guy, Barry seals, and he was arrested and on his way to,

on his way to trial, he gets murdered with George Bush's phone number in his pocket. Barry seal, Barry seal, man, he gets murdered with George Bush's phone number in his pocket. Barry Seale. Barry Seale. Man, stop playing. Listen, this is the ultimate story. Is all that in the movie too? I don't know if they put that in the movie,

but find out if that's true because I'm pretty sure it is. The ultimate story was this guy was smuggling drugs into the United States a lot, flying back and forth to America he had all these photos any he worked in cooperation at one point in time with whatever federal government that was investigating I think it was um was it it wasn't no was it Noriega like he who would he get in trouble it was the Medellin cartel yeah so was it Pablo Escobar that he got photographed with?

Yes, sir. So he got photos for them of all these different drug dealers all hanging out together. Pablo Escobar. I suppose that's how he got caught. Those pictures came back and were released publicly before he had even landed on that flight. So that's how they found him. And they were like, oh, well, we know who Barry is. Yeah, so they murdered that dude. Somebody murdered that dude somebody murdered that dude but that guy was

bringing in drugs and it was he wasn't making all the money himself he was a pilot and I'm sure he got a piece I'm sure he got paid really well but he was doing it for other people's a Spinelli I'm trying I don't know who this guy is let me see I think it might have been a previous agent. So he was an agent at one point in time. This says he was his pilot. Was he an agent? And had his phone number in his pocket. Okay. It says, for example, Spinelli said one of the big conspiracy theories around Barry is that he was George H.W. Bush's personal pilot.

And when Barry was killed, he had Bush's phone number in his back pocket. Neither filmmaker felt it was appropriate to include that unsubstantiated theory, but they also knew that astute audience members might already be familiar with it. That's a good way of saying it might have happened. So then why did they include the Clinton thing? Because the Clinton thing definitely did happen.

And the thing about it is it's like, what was going on? This guy was bringing in cocaine. And if you really thought about it, you go, how, what? What was going on? This guy was bringing in cocaine. And if you really thought about it, you go, okay, if you were some big-time government agency, right, and you knew, there is no fucking way we're stopping all this coke from coming over here. All right, it's coming over here. Why don't we get a little taste?

Why don't we get a little taste? If you're in the DEA and you're just constantly busting scumbags with giant bags of meth and you're like, you know what, man? How about we just fucking sell some of this shit? How about we just sell some of it and use the money to fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua?

That's what happened with Freeway Ricky Ross. You ever hear Ronald Reagan talking about that shit? At first he goes, there's a Killer Mike song called Fuck Reagan or something like that and it starts off with his speech about where he goes, he's like I know last week I

said that we were not funding these contras or whatever and he was like, and even though this is a very political way of putting it, he goes even though my heart tells me that that's still true, the evidence says that it's not. So instead of being like, I lied, he was like, my heart tells me that this isn't true. How much do you think they tell the president?

Like, how much do you trust a guy who only has a job for four years? I think they tell him the very tip-top urgent shit. Right. And they tell him all the other shit on the bottom, but there's that little middle, little 10, 15% that he has no idea. In the 1980s, just, I'm just throwing this out there. there. Don't you think that in the 1980s, they could keep a guy like Ronald Reagan from finding out that they're dealing drugs while his wife is doing the Just Say No campaign? Because that's during the same time period, man. During the Just Say No campaign, Ronald Reagan was responsible because he was the president, whether or not he knew about it. During his administration, they were selling drugs in South Central LA.

Oh, yeah. You've seen that video where Michael Rupert calls out like there's an assemblywoman and there's the CIA or the DEA guys on stage. And he says, I witnessed, I personally witnessed the CIA selling drugs. Yeah, they were definitely putting drugs. They were selling drugs and they were doing it all through Freeway Ricky Ross. Yeah. And then they locked him up. And they locked him up and he figured out how to be a lawyer in jail.

He couldn't even read when he went to jail. He learned how to read and then became a lawyer and realized they had tried him for double jeopardy incorrectly. Because for double jeopardy, like when someone has like three strikes, three strikes, right? Not double jeopardy, three strikes. So when someone does that, it's supposed to be like three separate times It's not like three different things you charge them for at once right and for his second arrest They had used that but they used it incorrectly. I hope I'm not fucking that so he'd he get out. Yes. Okay. Yes, he got out and His stories and insane. It's an insane story because it's all true and verified.

That guy was making millions and millions of dollars. He couldn't even read at the time. He was a tennis player. He's a fucking very smart guy. And he didn't know how to read. And he figured out how to do it in jail once they arrested him and learned how to become a lawyer. That's miraculous. Is there a movie about him?

No, there's a whole show about him. Well, there's also Rick Ross the rapper. Oh, yeah. Well, I think they had an issue at first. They did. Because he's like, I'm actually. Actually Rick Ross. Yeah, it's like someone calling themselves John Gotti.

Right. And then John Gotti gets out of jail. Like, hey. Well, you know, there's a lot of rappers that name themselves out of like mafiosos. Sure. Right? Sure. Because there's a Yo Gotti rapper.

There's a, I forget his name, but the guy that used to run Murder, Inc., something else Gotti. Irv Gotti. Oh, Irv Gotti, yeah. Irv Gotti. There's Rick Ross. There's I think Biggie used to call himself

something slim. I'm getting my shit's getting crossed up. But a lot of rappers do that. What did Superfly sell? Was Superfly a drug dealer in that movie? I think he sold pussy. That sounded like a pill.

Was that what he was? I don't believe. I think he was selling drugs. I think that was the idea. That was like. Cocaine. Cocaine. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, cocaine. And you know what's crazy? I think that was the idea that was like cocaine cocaine yeah okay

yeah yeah cocaine and you know what's crazy we do so much cocaine the United States does an insane amount of cocaine I think Britain still does more than us

that's amazing yeah you talk about a place it's probably I think Texas might be bigger than Great Britain yes well it rains over there

so much they just want to just get they do so much cocaine over there. It's crazy. Get gacked up. That's why their fucking food sucks. Their food doesn't suck anymore.

No? No, they eat some amazing chefs over there. Yeah, and you can get some really good food in England now. That was like an old thing that people said. No, I mean, when we went there, that was my only time there. Albania, 12 plus. You didn't think that was great steak? No. How dare you? that was great steak? No.

How dare you? I thought everything else was good. The potatoes were good. Albania is number one? Annual prevalence percentage, which I'm not exactly sure. Whoa, so 5.9% of the people do. Over the age of 12, which is. Doing coke at the age of 12. That's a crazy way to measure. Oh, my God. How do you find, for that list. Over the age of 12. You and Coke at the age of 12.

That's a crazy way to measure. Oh my God. How you find out that 12 years. That's Rose's people. Holy shit. Rose from the comedy store.

That's her people. Albanians? Wow, folks. Holy shit. Albanians. Six percent do cocaine? That's wild. Let me see the list again.

I'm trying to find a better one. That one's fun. Well, I just lost it. That one's a good one. If they broke it down by city, it would be a whole other thing. Right. Yeah, because some cities are – like Miami would fucking dominate the country in the cocaine Olympics.

Miami, Los Angeles. Miami, though, would really – I mean, that city was built on cocaine. Wow, look at that. So the United States is only number three. We've got to do better. We've got to do better. All the coke's coming into this country, and we can't get into number one. But what does annual prevalence mean?

Probably per year. How many times do you do coke at least once a year? And it looks like, am I reading that correctly? It's the percentage of the youth and adult population who have consumed the drug at least once in the past year. Yeah, so it's 2.9% for America? Yeah. And that's just all the people that are telling the truth. Yeah, a lot of people are lying.

Yeah. Probably more than. And how many of those people that aren't lying are on Adderall? Because it feels like more than 4%. A lot of people are doing it. I feel like whenever I'm in a room and cocaine comes up, because I don't do cocaine. But I am always in the minority.

Most of the people are like, oh yeah, I'll do something I'm gonna do. I've never done cocaine. It doesn't affect me. I've never even tried it. And at first I thought maybe I was doing it wrong or I did the wrong kind. People would constantly try to convince me but I looked at...

There's a theory that kids that were on Ritalin don't have the same – cocaine doesn't have the same effect on them. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Well, that makes sense. You probably have a tolerance for speed. Is that what Ritalin is? It's very speedy. I don't know if it's technically a speed, but it's very speedy for some people.

It makes them like Henry Rollins was on it when he was a kid and he talked about it and he'd be like fucking... He thinks it had a big effect on him. I'm pretty sure Henry said that. I think that was Ritalin that he was on, right? Okay, it says Ritalin acts

much like cocaine. Advanced imaging research has answered a 40-year-old question about methylphenidate, which is Ritalin, which is taken daily by 4 million to 6 million children in the United States. How does it work? The answer may unsettle many parents because the drug acts much like cocaine, albeit cocaine dripped through molasses. Neurowski. Neurowski?

That's the person who wrote those. Oh. I was like, what did they say? No, no, just through molasses. Taken orally in pill form, it rarely produces a high and has not been reported to be addictive. However, injected as a liquid, it sends a jolt that addicts very much, addicts very much rather, says Nura Volkov, MD psychiatrist and imaging expert at Brookhaven National Laboratory. They say it's like cocaine.

So when you inject it into someone, who the fuck is injecting a Ritalin? I don't know how people found that out. How do they make that? It acts like, that's a misleading title. It acts much like cocaine when you inject it in someone. They were saying that it doesn't cause that when you take the pill for them. Or maybe it's a very, very mild cocaine effect. I don't know.

But people that I know that have taken it describe it like that. Henry Rollins described it like he was just like fucking – Yeah. Like gritting his teeth all day. It gave me bad anxiety i could just imagine it's like us you know also the thing about things like that is like who knows what's going to work for you and what's not going to work for you like there's so much involved in like trying stuff on you like if you don't feel good like they don't know what's going

on in your head yeah What does that mean? This is what really fucked me up. It's because when they first put me on it, I didn't like how it made me feel the first couple times I took it. After that, I would sneak and spit it out. After a month of me...

I took it for a week. I didn't like how it made me feel. Why did they put you on it i was in foster care and i was like um i wasn't basically i was add they called it it's adhd they called it add back then and it was just the teacher was like he's smart but he don't he can't sit still you know and that kind of shit right and so for three weeks i was spitting this shit out and then we had a parent teacher conference and so I wasn't even on the shit and you know how like you know sometimes and I don't recommend parents do this but like adults would talk would talk about me like I wasn't there right right right you know what I mean and these motherfuckers the teacher the guidance counselor and my foster mother they all sitting around like talking about how yeah I really noticed the progress and it was my first

time i'm sitting there you know seven eight years old i'm like these motherfuckers are full of shit like i didn't have the words to say that right that's how i felt like they're all full of shit they don't know about any of this shit and so for the longest time i refused any of the shit they gave me like once i had the power to say no i was like fuck those pills because they tried to put me on prozac too when i was a teenager. And I was like, how do you know this ain't the experiment on me? How do you know this shit? What does this shit do? Also, the thing that drives

me crazy about kids that won't sit still is that no kid wants to sit still. The idea that you want kids to sit still, it's so I know you're trying to give them discipline and train them to be good students but that is absolutely not what they want to do kids are like puppies they want to run around

they want to have fun that's natural that's a hundred percent natural way to to live as a kid when they make you sit down in a fucking room and listen to some boring shit and maybe you're behind in classes so you don't even you can't even follow what the fuck they're talking about because you're not up to that level of whatever it is. No, it was the opposite. You knew too much. For me, I was like, I get it. Oh, so it was boring.

Yeah, I'm like, if I could give my- Even better. So if that's the case, imagine the solution is to drug you. It's not like he's so smart, this is all stupid to him. That was Einstein. Einstein failed seventh grade. Yeah. How the fuck can you – if you fail Einstein, you've got to think that maybe the way you're teaching is kind of fucked.

Yeah, because I forget who the fuck it was. I think the guy's name was Tom Hartman. He was like a political guy that I used to listen to a long time ago. But he was talking about how when he was coming up, there was a school in Boston where they would send these kids. I don't think they called it ADD back then. But the theory was that it was actually an evolutionary benefit because the person that was, it's not that you can't pay attention is that your attention is split

You know so you're the guy that was hyper aware would help the tribe survive or whatever There's there's that but it's also they're bored like they want excitement like there's a there's a thing about children They want things that are like that stimulate them and when the education doesn't stimulate them. It's a just drone It's like a trumpet in your face is You want to get the fuck out of there? It's normal being a being a smart kid is like it's kind of a curse in the wrong environment And because you know that you know the teachers that always got the best out of me Was the ones that were fucking hyped about the subject they were teaching it might have felt like a curse

You might have at the time might have felt like a curse you might have at the time felt like it was a curse but it's 100 not a curse the curse is to be born stupid that's the real curse yeah you do you are way better off being a smart guy who feels out of place in a stupid neighborhood than you are a stupid guy in a smart neighborhood yeah you're right you don't want to be the dumb guy You don't want to be the dumb guy. You don't want to be the dumb guy. And it took me a long time to stop acting stupid so I could fit

in. Oh, interesting. Yeah, because I wasn't just a smart kid. I was also a foster kid. So it would be like I would finally, finally feel like I'm kind of sort of fitting in and then I would move and now I'm this new kid

in a new school you know when you're a new kid in a school everyone's paying attention to you and I know the answer but I know if I raise my hand it's going to draw more attention right and you're going to be Mr. Smarty Pants right Mr. Know-it-all right and it was like so I got into this habit of just dumbing myself down

so that I would be cool or whatever but you know as an adult now looking back it was like, so I got into this habit of just dumbing myself down so that I would be cool or whatever. But, you know, as an adult now, looking back, I realized no one thought I was cool anyway. You know, I'm way cooler now than I'm just myself than I was when I was trying to be somebody else. But, yeah, but that's part of being a kid and especially being a foster kid and getting moved around the way you did. That's got to be an insanely challenging thing. but that's also why you're so interesting like people develop character through adversity true i don't think there's any other way that we acquire it it's it feels like a curse when it's happening you know when like you know your fucking life sucks and it's never nothing goes your way and you keep failing, you keep falling flat on your ass.

But that terrible feeling of you not meeting your goals and achieving things and getting something going on in your life, those terrible feelings create a more resilient, more focused person. Oh, yeah. That applies to everything. Well, finding comedy is like i found my tribe like once once i found comedy and i was like oh it's all these other fucking people that be thinking and saying weird shit exactly and wondering about dumb shit like it was it was like like a glove yeah yeah that's why you know when Mitzi would talk about the comedy store, she would call it the Island of Misfit Toys. That's what she called us.

Yeah, it really is. The Island of Misfit Toys. Because people think, people try to make it controversial, like some of the shit we say on stage or whatever. But have you heard the shit we said to each other? It's a whole other level. Because that's the only way we said to each other it's a whole other level because that's the only way we can make each other laugh also there's zero stakes and you get props for it

for going too deep like if we're out at dinner and Tony Hinchcliffe says some fucking insane shit that you could never say sometimes you ever forget that there's a not comic around and you forget all the time. And you're like, oh, they probably don't.

Yeah. But I'm telling you, but those of y'all listening out there, there's nothing better than five or six comics that know each other and trust each other with no recording devices around, and we're high, and we're just mind.

To me, it's almost like the equivalent of a rap cipher. It's something we automatically fall into to keep each other sharp. It's an exercise that we just do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think that's what podcasts are in a way, too. Yeah, yeah, and we're spoiled.

Yeah, we're definitely spoiled, because if you try to have a conversation with a knucklehead, it's not fun. That's why the pandemic fucked a lot of comics up, like the lockdowns, because a lot of people don't realize like you being exposed to such a high level of thought experiments and and and just mental stimulation every night

you're you're you're near some of the most abstract thinkers and and they're giving you ideas and different angles and you're spoiled by that. And then all of a sudden, it's nothing. You know? You just get a text that says, hope all is well. That ain't doing it. Like six months ago, you were talking about aliens. And, you know, if humanity was started from an alien doing mushrooms or whatever the fuck. Right?

It's like you were having those kind of conversations every fucking day. Right. And you took it for granted. And then all of a sudden, it's not available to you. Right. And your mind is used to just constantly getting new things to think about and piece together. It's just gone.

I was real lucky that during the pandemic, we kept doing the podcast. Yeah. We never stopped. Yeah. We tested everybody. We did a lot of different things we've been the early days it was very touch and go because you know they're testing you for

antibodies they're not even testing you like necessarily for covid it took a little while before they could test for covid right we just had everybody just you know be honest about how you feel be honest about whether or not you've been exposed. Constantly get tested. I get tested every fucking day. And then, you know, you got to monitor yourself too. But it was weird because, like, everybody that was coming in had been isolated. So we knew that we weren't exposed to other people other than these people that we're doing the shows with. But then I did a gig in Houston at the Improv in July. It was kind of the heart of everything.

And then I didn't get sick, but I got really high. And I got super paranoid that, oh, my God, what if I got sick? And then I started thinking about it. Like, what if I got sick and I infected somebody? I'm like, I know I'm not sick right now. I don't feel sick. But what if I got it? And I was thinking, oh, my God.

Like, I can't do any more of these shows. So I have to stop. I was like, I got to stop. And so we stopped for months and months and months until we did these shows outside with Chappelle. We did the stub shows because then we tested the whole audience. We tested everybody. We had a COVID bubble. We tested the whole audience. Everybody got tested. And then, um, we did those for a while and then as things relaxed more and more. So I was able to do the podcast through the entire thing.

By the time we came here, they had rapid tests. So they had these rapid antigen tests. They could find out whether or not you're positive in 15 minutes. You probably lost your mind if you couldn't. Yeah, I would have definitely gone into a different headspace. Yeah, I would have definitely gone into a different headspace. I think a little bit of silence and relaxation and removal from the world sometimes just to get an introspective view into what actually matters. Because you could lose what actually matters in the hectic scramble to pay your bills and advance your career and do this and do that. And, you know, you're trying to achieve things and you're going after it every day.

And you just when everything shuts down, the one advantage that you have is that now you could look at life and it's like pure state. Life in its pure state is just people around the people that they love. And you're just hanging out together. And you're locked in together and you're in a place of elevated risk because everybody's a little heightened by the fact they all know that everything's been locked down. And there's some meat being smoked. A little bit of that is good. The problem with people is that shit went on too long. It went on way too long and it fucked people up psychologically, whether they realize it or not.

Oh, isolation. Isolation. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Isolation and fear and anxiety. Because you've got to think people, there's certain people that had a level of anxiety that was already very high. And then the pandemic comes and everyone they see might kill them by breathing on them. And you see people, and whether or not masks work or not, you see people with no masks, you're fucking furious. That could be the one that fucking kills me.

I remember when it first started and I went to the laundromat because I had to. And I remember just thinking like, oh, all the air is poison. Yeah. Like, what if that was the one that's going to kill me? You know, it was rough for a few months. It was also rough because no one really knew what the effects were yet. You know that shit they have in Korea? It's like a phenomenon.

They've named it. But it's like a people that isolate themselves. It's a sickness. They isolate themselves and they just stay locked. They're shut in. They're watching video games? Or whatever. They just don't leave the house.

They leave the house as little as possible. They have a name for it. And it's been for years. And it's a problem. And it's been for years. And it's like, we basically did that to everyone. To everyone. Yeah. And the really fucked up thing is they did that to kids. So these kids are going to have a hard, and also they did a lot of communicating with masks on to kids and then kids to other kids that they forced them to wear masks. So the way children learn how to talk, a big part of it is like watching people talk, like watching facial expressions.

That's how you learn. You learn from people. You learn like the way we communicate with each other. You see facial expressions. You recreate them. Like this is me going, wow, I didn't know that. You know, they have to learn that. When half your fucking face is covered by a diaper,

they can't nobody could see that it's like bad for development so we have no fucking idea what kind of impact that's going to have so what do you think if so say there's a pandemic another one and there's and there's no controversy like this shit is deadly no one disagrees it'll be what we experience times 10 it'll be just as fucked up in terms of like the anxiety levels. There'll be even higher actually. Right. Because people will be,

you know, now that this, if this is like the Spanish flu or something like that, that killed millions and millions and millions of people. I think people will, I think there would still eventually be a point where people were like, fuck it. It's worth it.

Eventually. Yeah. But fuck it, it's worth it. Eventually, yeah. But if it's something that's fatal to a large percentage of the people that catch it, not a small percentage like COVID. I mean, think about what ultimately COVID was like. What percentage of the people that got COVID died? Jamie, what percentage of the people that got COVID died? Just overall.

Let's just include old people. Let's not be ageist. Include young people, old people. Let's see what we got here. What do you guess? I'm going to say 4%. Let's just say 5%. Let's round it out. I don't think it's that high. i don't think it's that high you don't think it's that high no i think that would be a lot more people the amount of people that died from it i think

it's like three three percent i think it's three i'm not sure though it might be lower actually no it's got to be lower than no that Yeah, that's ridiculous. Because 3% is insane. That's an insane amount of people. Right. What do you think? I've seen people say that it's less than 1%. But I don't know if that's like what they're going like healthy 18 to 49. Obviously, there's a giant risk if you're old. Old people, there's a giant risk. I mean, it really goes up. When you look at people in their 80s, and if you look at the number of people that died from COVID, a large number of them were older. It's real dangerous for them. Because right now, where are we at?

Eight billion people on Earth? Yeah. And maybe half the people caught it? No, more than that probably at this point. So 1% of that is... That's a lot of fucking dead people. That's too many people, yeah. So it's less than 1% for sure.

We just did science. We're scientists, dog. We're scientists, bro. Where's my honorary degree, goddammit? Cheers. Cheers, man. This has been fun. Hell yeah.

Jamie's still doing math. What do you think the number is? I've seen different numbers. What do you think it is, Jamie? All right. Yo, don't give us those Republican numbers. Yeah, man. Give us a real number from Politico.

I don't know. What do they say on Truth Social? But that's really the best, because that's how I feel. I don't know. the best because that's how I feel I don't know because when listen when I think when when the when the waters get so muddy all you got is how you feel I'm because I'm not gonna buy a microscope you know I'm not gonna do the stuff so when because it's become so political that both sides are kind of throwing mistruths and shit out there so it's like you don't know who to because I don't trust any of these politicians.

Did you see that they released something today finally on natural immunity? No, what is that? The Washington Post finally published a truth about natural immunity in a piece by Lena Nguyen. She's that lady that was the expert on CNN all the time. That was telling people to

mask up. She said vaccinated people who never had COVID were at least three times as likely to be infected as unvaccinated people with prior infection. So they're finally talking about that, which is really bananas. OK, so but also never had which is really bananas. Okay. But also, never had COVID is weird because... Here's another one. Ready for this one? Those who are vaccinated but never had COVID were four times as likely to have a severe illness

resulting in hospitalization or death compared to the unvaccinated who recovered from it. Protection from natural immunity. Also, was this a wanes at a slower rate than vaccinate than from vaccination? Sorry, I didn't put my glasses on. I never had COVID is weird because because how do you differentiate between people that never had it and the people that just never tested positive for it that's true too because i only got i only tested when it was something i needed to test for my friend bridget had it she had no idea she had it she

tested positive she's going to a wedding she tested positive couldn't go she's like this is crazy this is i don't i don't feel anything i was i tested positive twice I got lucky man I never I never tested positive when it was something important like when I when the first time

I did this podcast I was like please don't fucking test you know and then when I got my Netflix thing I didn't test I didn't test positive

and and I had some other important thing where it was like matter of fact when they did the festival they had us all test.

I filmed something at the end of the festival. But for almost two weeks before that, we were just doing shows around L.A. And then right when you're going to do the most important thing at the end, you got to test. Oh, boy. I know. I passed that one, too, though. Was the shows around L.A., though? A lot of them were outside shows, though, right?

No. No? No. By the time the festival happened, it was already were outside shows, though, right? No. No? No. By the time the festival happened, it was already. Oh, when is the festival? The Netflix festival. When was that? It was.

Oh, the recent one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, so when you said the festival, I didn't know which one you were talking about. Oh, yeah, yeah. The one they just had, like, right at the end when everyone was, like, fine. But I do know a motherfucker where, like, their whole thing, they were supposed to film something, and they tested positive right beforehand. They fuck their whole shit up.

Yeah, I've heard of that, too. Yeah. Well, listen, man, what are you going to do? They have to abide by those rules, especially when we didn't have any way to treat it or we didn't know what was the right way to treat it. There was a lot of that in the beginning. Right. Like they thought respirators were the way to go. They found out they weren't.

But that's how things go when there's a pandemic. There's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking about stuff. But when we gonna catch a break where like the treatment is like you just gotta fuck a lot. You know what I mean? You just gotta nut twice a day.

Or I wanted it to be something crazy like where like weed was actually the cure. Because we, because stoners always say weed's the cure for everything. But if it came out and it was like TAC is actually the cure. That's the thing. Oh, man. I can't wait for something like that to happen.

Well, you don't want an illness. Just enjoy weed. You don't need to justify your weed usage with an illness. That's right. You're better off being healthy and just enjoying it on your own. I just don't like the judgment. Judgment from who?

Idiots that don't smoke weed? No, but here's the wild shit, though, Joe. I've always had... My eyes always make me look like I'm high. And I don't smoke weed as much as people look like. Right, right. Jim Brewer, that's the perfect example. Oh, yeah.

Jim Brewer looks like he's constantly high. And I guarantee you he's not high nearly as much as people assume. I don't even know if he gets high anymore. He went through a long period where he definitely didn't get high. was getting too high and jim brule yeah yeah decided to back off and he was in half baked yeah because because that's the thing is like i can't i only i can only get super high when i'm when i'm fine it doesn't solve my problems like if i have if i'm having anxiety or depression or something like that weed doesn't make me feel better no it makes me feel worse freak out about whatever that thing is.

Yeah, it makes me feel way, way worse. Because I think too much. Yeah. Yeah, I think way too much about it. But I'm going to show you this damn picture. And this is, because I get this all the damn time. Motherfucker. So, goddammit.

What is this in relation to? This is my baby picture. I look high as a baby. I'm going to show you because I'm not making this up. Right, god damn. Right. Did I take it down? You need an iPhone.

This is bullshit. You know, an iPhone, I don't know if you could do that in these primitive Android devices, but you could make folders. I don't see it that way. You could have like a favorites folder. I could have saved it and labeled it and stuff. You can't do that in your little Google photo gallery? I'm sure I can.

Do you have all your pictures just lumped in together? Man, I'm... You have no albums? I am like semi-organized. I'm organized in a bunch of... Wait a minute then. Why do you like Gadget so much? Like, I thought you'd like them because they help you organize shit.

I just like them because it feels like the future. I feel like my toe, I'm tiptoed just into the future. Some dudes have like their, all their jokes written out on like a spreadsheet. No. The time of each joke. I use three different apps for my joke stuff. Yeah, you were telling me that. Do you use the elephant one?

I use Evernote, yeah. Evernote, yeah. That's my main one just because I know that it's cross-platform, so if I ever decide to switch, I can still have it all. That's a really good one. But I use, but then Samsung Notes and then Google Keep is another one I use. But somebody introduced me to one recently, man, because I'm telling you, the kids now, they got so much. The young comics now, they're using an app called StandUpper. Hmm. Yeah, and this shit shit he showed it to me and i was like man if i could if i could pay somebody to transfer all my shit into it i

would but it was like it's like it's made for stand-up really yeah and it'll like from you writing out a bit it'll tell you how long it is no shit huh Yeah. So a comic created or someone who likes comedy? A comic showed it to me and from using it I'm almost positive a fucking comic made it because there's no way you would know that it's perfect for comedy. Interesting. Yeah you have a little audio it tells you how long everything is. Interesting. You can put little tags on shit. I was like, damn, like, who thought of all of this? They bombed that set. That was a great set.

The set was meh. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Oh, so you write down, like, that's crazy. Like, you write down your experiences at every open mic. Yeah. That's heavy. Yeah, and it's like, they're getting meticulous with it.

I'm telling you, it's like, it's almost like the way that we were talking about Khabib, where it's like the new generation of fighters that's coming up are learning how to counter that. And so they're going to be unbelievable. The new comics that are coming out, some of them are going to be fucking incredible. And they're learning at an accelerated rate because they have all the access to all the greats of all time on YouTube. Yeah. Like you could go on, you could Red Fox,

Rodney Dangerfield, Sam Kinison. You could get anyone, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy. You can get all these specials. You could watch them all. You can watch anything you want.

You could watch it all day long. If you wanted to sit down and just watch Rodney Dangerfield all day long, you could just get on YouTube. You know, what holds up is Sanford and Son. Oh yeah. That shit makes me laugh. to sit down and just watch ronnie dangerfield all day long you could just get on youtube you know what holds up is sanford and son oh yeah that shit makes me laugh oh my god still red fox did you know he he he invented the comedy album really he basically yeah he was the first person to put comedy on an album stand up yeah stand up yeah To my understanding. Jamie, can you factor? Well, he used to run a comedy club in L.A.

And he would record there. And I bought a series of Richard Pryor cassettes from a gas station once. Cassettes? Yeah, they had cassettes. They were the, you know, the gas stations used to have these cassette racks. You'd pull in to get gas, like some road trip. And, you know, I'm on the road doing stand-up. And I pull into this place, and I'm like, get a snack or something.

And they always have, like, hats and trinkets and shit. And they would have cassettes, so you could buy shit that you could listen to. Because there was no Sirius XM radio. There was none of that back then. Right, right. So I found these recordings from Red Fox's Comedy Club. And they're available now. You can get some of them, I think, at least one of them for sure on YouTube.

You can get the whole recording. But it was crazy, man. It was like you could hear the clink of the glasses. It was Richard Pryor fucking around on stage, just like inventing shit and being loose. And early, early days, man. It's important to have those to have a place where you feel that comfortable have a club where you can you feel at home and you can fuck around

you know that's how earthquake got so strong you know the earthquake story no but i know he's a beast he's a beast dude he took over a comedy club in atlanta and when he took over this comedy club in Atlanta. And when he took over this comedy club in Atlanta, he had to be on stage every night. So he was on stage constantly. So he was doing like what the Beatles did when they went to Hamburg, and they were playing like eight hours a day. That's how they got so good.

That's also in that Malcolm Gladwell book. When the Beatles went back to Liverpool, everybody's like, what the fuck did you guys do? How are you so good? Like, what the hell happened? That's what I did. Numbers. Just numbers.

When I first started, I was pretty bad. But then I started working at this comedy club that had just opened. And so I was learning how to do everything. I was basically their first door guy. and so I was learning how to do everything I was basically their first door guy and I fucking ran the shows and sold the tickets and sat and answered the phones and did every fucking thing

and I was on stage every fucking night and I only went there and then everybody else saw me that hadn't seen me and I was like how the fuck did you and I was like I was just doing this every day like literally every day and I don't know if i had if i can do that now but don't say that yeah every night if you had to yeah definitely do it

it's a lot of fun well see but back then i i think i overcorrected because back then like i said i was so excited to finally find my thing that i became obsessed about it but it was to the detriment of everything else in my life. That's how it always works. Yeah. It was like, yeah. So I was like, it wasn't healthy, but it was necessary. Yeah.

If you want to get really good at everything, that's the problem. Like someone has a quote about that. It's like, that's why Tom Brady getting divorced. You think that's why? Yeah, because you can't be that good and be a good – you can't be a great anything and be a great – A good other things. Yeah, I mean, maybe you can be great at two – maybe you can be a great husband and a great quarterback. But you can't be a great quarterback, a great husband, a great father, a great friend, you know, a great –

Businessman. Yeah, it's like you can't. That's why they're getting on him for that FTX shit. Mike, do you think he read that? Do you think he had any idea what that even was about? No. They just said, I'll give you $5 million to say this, and he was like, all right, or whatever it was.

Probably more than that. Yeah, he's like, sure. In the middle of watching the film, he's like, oh, yeah. Yeah, I'll do it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He's probably laser obsessed with football. Yeah, I think the best you can be,

if you want to be a great comedian, the best you can be is a very good anything else. Right. Yeah. You can be a very good dad. You can be a very good husband and a great comedian. I think there was also like the wife didn't want him to go back to playing football. Yeah. She wanted him to like look.

Because she's tired of being second. Women don't like, listen, why do you think, if you ask the average woman how they feel about their husband's PlayStation, they're going to all be like. He loves that thing. They fucking hate that device because he chooses it over them constantly. Right? And i feel like that's very i feel like not i feel like the way people feel the way some people feel loved is they need to know that you'll they need to know that you'll pick them over that other thing right right at least sometimes and they and they and they'll start creating scenarios well what if like you

know a bunch of comics have jokes about like their wife going if I had no legs would you still love me and shit like that it's the same thing it's like they start creating scenarios where like okay babe I love that you're a comedian I know that that's how I met you and it's the most important thing in your life but like my mom just died can't you come to the

no I have a gig you know what I mean okay but it's our anniversary you went out the last three nights can't you no, I have a gig. You know what I mean? It's our anniversary. You went out the last three nights. Can't you? No. Eventually, that shit's going to get exhausting. I can't get you to pick me ever?

It's not going to last. It depends, though. Some women are supportive of that. Remember that movie? Have you seen that documentary? Oh yeah. You talked to the guy. Which one?

The solo climb guy? Yes. Same thing with that. He told that girl, I'm going to always pick this climbing shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to always climb. Yeah. Go home.

Like if you are the greatest of the great. Yeah. If you're going to be the greatest of the great, you can't be. Yeah, you don't have time for anything else. No. How many people are trying to be the greatest quarterback of all time? It's like him and a couple other dudes in the conversation, right? Yeah, because it's a delicate balance if you're trying to make that happen on purpose.

I forget the kid's name, but they called him Robo Quarterback robo quarterback or like his dad tried to make him that uh yeah and it drove him nuts todd marinovich yeah it's like yeah it's like you can't because there's a delicate balance because you got to instill you gotta instill it in them but you can't. Yeah. Yeah. That Marv Marinovich guy went on to train BJ Penn. Really? Yeah, yeah. He trained BJ Penn for some of the greatest fights that BJ ever had

because BJ had like an endless gas tank. So he trained him in strength and conditioning and he had this idea that strength and conditioning was the most important thing and that you're fighting,

you already know how to fight. Like you're BJ Penn. You know how to do it. You don't need to work on like sparring and and hitting the bag and and timing and all that stuff like you already know that shit what's really important is you have an endless gas tank a fucking insane gas tank and so they put them all these wild plyometric exercises they broke that dude for like six weeks but when he fought like when he fought Sean Shirk and when he fought Diego Sanchez that sean shirk and when he fought diego sanchez that version of bj penn that version i put that version up against anybody

alive or dead yeah he was a mom he was a monster when people talk about like the greatest of all time you gotta include bj in his prime bj in his prime because people always want to look at a fighter you look at like the overall body of their work and you make an average of their performances. You can't do that with BJ because in the later stages of his career, that's not the same BJ. And we don't take care of these guys. But it's also, he didn't have the same, you can only burn that hot for a short amount of time when you're that good. BJ was so fero you're that good. BJ was so ferocious in that

period. I think that's very hard to maintain, that intensity that he had. But in that time, man, he was fucking good. Did he go against GSP? Yes, he did. He beat him, right? No, GSP beat him up, man. GSP beat him up. He

beat Matt Hughes, though. But that wasn't in his prime when GSP beat him up. He beat Matt Hughes, though. But that wasn't in his prime when GSP beat him? Well, no. It wasn't his prime. It was a different weight class. Oh, okay. BJ was going up to 170 to fight Matt Hughes, who was the welterweight champion. But BJ was a natural guy. He didn't take steroids. He didn't

fuck around with anything like that. So he just was BJ Penn. He was like the same size as he was when he's fighting people at 155 pounds and george st pierre is a powerhouse he's a very physically imposing fighter and his top game was fucking ruthless man he would get guys down and beat the shit out of him man george st pierre was a bad man in his prime he was a bad man and he was much bigger and he was very angry at BJ BJ was talking all this shit and BJ was saying that they're gonna fight to the

death like he said that like to the death and I'm serious we're gonna we're gonna fight to the death Jesus Christ and everybody's like oh my god remember when Matt Hughes beat um GSP was didn't yes yes he caught him with a far side arm bar was a thing of beauty Like one of the best great states ever. No, no wasn't upset. That was at the time when Matt was a champ But what and that was and that was because now my memory is fucked up I'm so high George C. Pierre was coming back. No, no, no, no GSP won the after that but GSP lost their first encounter. All right.

Their first encounter, Matt Hughes took him down, and he caught him in a far side arm bar. And I think GSP was going for a Kimura, and the counter to the Kimura was the far side arm bar. So he went to hit the Kimura, and as he went to hit the Kimura, he didn't have control of Matt Hughes' body. So Matt Hughes spun around him and got, it was beautiful. It's like a thing of beauty,

like a black belt level submission. Well, GSP. See if you can find that. Didn't he beat everyone that beat him? Yes. Everyone he lost when he came back in business.

Yes, everyone. Yeah. Dude, GSP was the fucking man. Isn't he? And the nicest guy on earth. You would never believe he's a stone cold killer. He's so friendly, so nice. Fucking sweetest guy you're ever going to want to run into.

Is he on your goat list? Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah. If there's goat lists, he's on there. So here's Matt Hughes on top, and he's punching him and see what George tries to do. He tries to stop him by going for a Kimura. So the counter to the Kimura is the far side arm bar, and that's the counter. And he hits it perfectly.

That's brilliant. That is like high-level black belt version of a submission. Watch this spin. Spin takes it. Boom. I mean, that's fucking art. That's art. That's the art in martial arts. And someone hits a thing like that, like, God. And mean, it's fucking art. That's art. That's the art in martial arts.

And someone hits a thing like that, like, God. And you can look at that forever. Like, for as long as there's YouTube, as long as there's all these video platforms, you'll be able to see that far side on. I watched a video the other day. It was like the rarest submissions. The rarest ever? The rarest submissions in MMA, yeah.

That would have to be the twister, followed by the omoplata, and maybe the calf slicer. Well, there were some that, like, those were all on the list. But it was actually, like, not the submissions themselves, but, like, the actual times that it happened. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The actual times. I think in the UFC there's only been two or three twisters. And I think the same thing is like only two or three omoplatas.

And I know of one calf slicer submission that I'm thinking about and that's Charles Oliveira. What is that? This is the twister. Well that's called the crotch ripper actually. That is from the same position that you slide into the...

I love that move. Does it rip your tan apart? It rips your legs apart. Yeah, I mean, bro. Do it again. I'll show it again. This is where it comes from. Where it comes from, it's like back control. You get a lockdown on one leg.

See, he's got a lockdown on the right leg. And he takes the left leg rather than he takes the right leg and stretches it out. And look, I don't give a fuck how much you're training. Your survival instincts kick in when your nuts feel like they're coming apart. Yes, agreed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at that one. Oh, look at that knee bar.

That's a nasty knee bar from the guard. That's Husamar Palhares. That guy is terrifying. So that's another knee bar from the guard. So he's got a knee bar. He's got a half guard, and he clamps down on the leg and gets his body sideways. So he gets all that leverage on the knee. That's a nasty submission, too, because you probably don't have much time to tap.

Yeah, some of these I had never even heard of. Yeah, these are definitely not on the UFC. So this is like he got him with a guillotine. Go back to that. So it's like he's got him in a guillotine, but he's got him, like, backwards. Oh, yeah, that's crazy. And he's got an arm in too and he's like all the way over to the side that's crazy leverage this is a buggy choke this

happens pretty rarely there's more and more buggy chokes in um jujitsu now than ever before the rutolo brothers are masters at it um but these um submissions like this with the buggy choke in ufc i think there's only been a few. He's out right there, right? Yeah, he's out cold. Who's being choked? Oh, okay. The guy on top of him.

So what it is is the guy gets you inside. Go back to the buggy choke. Guy gets you inside control, which is usually a good position to be in. But what you do is you reach up, you grab your own leg, you trap his neck in between your leg and your arm. So you see how he's pulling that right there? So it's like a triangle. Is the black dude getting choked right now? The guy on the bottom with the hair is the one that's applying

the choke. So it's hard to see because his legs are the same color. It's not... Yeah, it's just... He's grabbing his own leg. Let it play out and you'll get to see. He lets him go. Both guys are white guys. Oh, okay. So watch, I think.

There you go. I'm not sure about that. He's holding his arm here, and his leg is in there holding the pressure down. Yeah, it's basically like a triangle choke, but you're doing it. See, he's got his arm. You want me to explain it to you? So this is his arm. Right.

That's the guy who's winning. So he's got his arms clasped together. And see how this one arm that's clasped together over his own foot is pinned down against that dude's neck. So what you have on, you have one side, he's cutting off the carotid artery with his right shoulder, or his left shoulder rather. On the other side, he's using his left leg. So he's got the two of them together connected and squishing the neck. See? See how he's doing that?

Yeah. So it's like he's using his own arm, and he's got that guy's arm in place. I mean, it's fucking brilliant. Oh, this is vicious. Yeah, that's nasty. That's like a Kimura from the back. That's like, yeah, he's doing a Kimura from back control. The Boston Crab.

Somebody got submitted with that. Oh, yeah, I saw that too. Yeah, that's probably the rarest. That might be the rarest. Yeah? Yeah, I don't know of any other people that I've ever even heard of. I'm sure it's happened. I'm sure it's happened on some regional scene or something like that.

I didn't know about it. Yeah, that could never happen in the UFC. If it did, the matchmakers have some fucking explaining to do. Yeah. I mean, or maybe it was like UFC 1 or 2. Maybe like a long time ago, but not now. Well, it could be that a guy gets hurt. And when guys get hurt, they don't know what's going on.

And people can put them in compromising positions much easier. Well, since we watched the whole video, the number one here, I believe what's happening is the guy on the bottom. Oh, he's doing like a teepee, but he's doing it to his rib cage. Instead of doing it as a choke, he's just crushing his ribs and his body with his arm and his legs together. So he's just crushing the dude's ribs. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that this guy is like,

he says in the beginning of the video that they aren't actually ranked in order. Google teepee triangle. So there's guys that are finishing triangles now, and Eddie called it the teepee because it looks like a teepee. You get your legs up there, and you get his arm in like a triangle,

but instead of cinching it down the way like he in like a triangle, but instead of cinching it down the way he tapped Hoyler in Brazil, instead of cinching it down, you clasp your hands together and when they do that, is he going to get it here? So when you do that, you have like a pinch.

See the S grip? And he's pinching his legs together? So it's like a no-arm triangle. Or rather, it's a one-arm triangle. He does have one arm in. And he puts him to sleep. What are those two guys doing? He had the left arm in.

So the other one has no, the buggy choke has no arms. What are these guys doing? The guy's got his back. No, these two on the side. I don't know. They're like fighting to talk to him or something. What's going on? They're probably coaching.

Yeah. He's probably trying to They're probably coaching. Yeah. He's probably trying to keep his friend from being stupid. All right. I was just wondering. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's like a tag team.

That seems very weird. Is that what it is? It says tap tag. That's what it says. Wow. Oh, my God. That is what it is. Oh, my God.

That's hilarious. They have tag team jiu-jitsu. That is hilarious. He's trying to reachiu-jitsu. That is hilarious. So he's trying to reach over for a tag. So show how he sets it up again. So, yeah, it is no arms. So, look, watch. When he gets the leg across, he pops it out, and now he's got –

man, does he have the arm on the left side? No, he has the arm on the left side. No, he doesn't have it in. You sure he doesn't? He reached for a tag there before he passed out. Right, but the left side seems like the arm's trapped, right? Oh, oh you're talking about dude in the yellows arm yeah let's back it up a little bit yeah yeah yeah it's trapped that that's the only thing that makes sense i have seen people do scissor chokes with uh without uh an arm in where guys leg squeeze is so good if they get a

hold of your neck particularly if they get you in a crucifix position, you can't defend right. They clamp down on your neck just with just their legs, just squeezing like a scissors position. Bro, in those situations, man, a lot of times your life really is in those referees' hands. Oh, yeah, for sure. Because it doesn't take that long. Like, if it's a blood choke, it doesn't take that long for you to die. Right.

If somebody lets you hold on to that for like five minutes. Oh, yeah. I don't even think it's that long. How long before it kills you? It's too long for you to die. Right. If somebody lets you hold on to that for like five minutes. Oh, yeah. I don't even think it's that long. How long before it kills you? It's seconds. It's not minutes. Really? It's like, yeah, I think you probably have like 15 seconds.

If they cut off the blood right here. For 15 seconds? It's not that long. I don't know the exact amount of time, but you don't have that long for a blood choke. Jesus Christ. You have way more time if they cut off your air than you do if they hit the arteries.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the blood choke, your brain is literally not getting oxygen. Yeah. 20 seconds. A relified blood choke may lead to unconsciousness 10 to 20 seconds. Injury well-applied blood choke may lead to unconsciousness 10 to 20 seconds.

Injury or death is plausible if the arteries remain constricted for more than 20 seconds. Okay, yeah. Compared to strangulation with the hands, properly applied blood chokes require little physical strength. That's not true. That's not true. Yeah, I mean, you could choke, but you could blood choke somebody with their own. It depends on who you're choking. That's a ridiculous thing to say.

Right, right, right. You need some physical strength. I mean, you don't need to be, like, super duper strong. That was misworded. I think they meant you – Strength to do the choke. It doesn't take that much pressure. Not fighting back.

There's a lot, man. There's a lot going on when you're choking somebody. Yeah. That's not true, really. Like, you can do it like this, but it requires physical strength. It definitely does. You definitely have to have it.

I mean, it's 100% it's technique, but there's physical strength in this. Also, you're like, when you get your arm around someone's neck and then you get this behind the neck like this, there's all this struggling to get this hand down in there. There's a lot going on.

And then once you get it in there, the guy's trying to peel your arms off and you just fucking squeeze. Your jaw's getting pushed to the side. You're fucking squeezing. There's a lot of physical strength involved, especially if you're doing it to someone who's strong. The idea of saying there's not a lot of physical strength, what if someone's strong? Of course there is. No, but I think you're interpreting it as like someone fighting back right right they're just talking about it doesn't take that much strength to cut it off right well that's true then yeah that's true

i'm thinking about it from a jujitsu perspective because i'm high he's like what there's plenty of counters what are you talking about i just don't like when people diminish the the arts what's necessary the deadly arts well you know like i don't want people to get a false sense of what works and doesn't work Well, it's a lot of that shit going out. There's always gonna be that yeah, there's always gonna be that jiu-jitsu is hard Do you know hard to do what do you know of any survival myths that are bullshit survival myths? Yeah, like people go, you know you know It's like all these old wives tales about what to do if you're in the wilderness You know, it's like all these old wives tales about what to do if you're in the wilderness.

Like if you see a bear. Yeah, and most of it's wrong. Most of it will get you killed. Like what will get you killed? Like rationing water. It's like you're better off rationing your sweat than water. Because if you don't hydrate, real quick, you're going to get stupid. Yeah, and you got to drink your own piss.

Yeah, but it's way better for you to hydrate fully as long as you can than it is for you to be 10% hydrated for a long, drawn-out amount of time. Because you're going to do dumb shit. You're going to just be dumb from the beginning. And if you can drink your piss, you have to. Here dumb from that from the beginning and if you can drink your piss you have to here's one oh you gotta drink your piss what is it it's like a piss salesman here dead if a bear attack praying dead that only works sometimes no it works sometimes see here's the thing like it depends on why the bear is attacking you is the bear attacking you because of predation is it trying to kill you or is a bear attacking you because you think it's a threat If he thinks you're a threat and they minimize you and you play dead,

they may stop attacking you. But the question is, how the fuck do you know? When do you know? When do you know to, when, how much do you have to move before the bear decides to bite you again? Yeah. I saw the Revenant. Dude, that shit, that, that, you know, that's based on a real story. Yeah. Dude, that shit, that, you know, that's based on a real story. Yeah. Yeah, roughly based on a real story.

It happened in the Drive Steve Rinella Nuts because it happened in the Great Plains. But the way they made it, they made it like it was, I think it happened in the Great Plains in real life. But it happened in a totally different environment and they filmed it in the rainforest. Myth, if a shark attacks you, punch it in the nose. That's a myth? I think that's a myth. It's really hard to land a solid punch in the nose of Myth, if a shark attacks you, punch it in the nose. That's a myth? It's really hard to land a solid punch in the nose of a moving shark. Jesus Christ. I just saw a video.

I think they filmed it for the new Shark Week probably. There's a guy in a plexiglass just above the water, just under the water tank cage they're calling it. This fucking gigantic great white comes and starts circling him. Oh, fuck that. And it just fucking attacks him from the bottom and breaks right through the fucking cage. Oh my god. Dude, don't show me this. Show me it.

Did the water immediately fill up with shit? Because I would have shit my pants in that water. I think they filmed it for something. That's why we haven't seen all of the video yet. Imagine trusting a motherfucker and losing your life because you trusted it like like like when Owen Hart died You know imagine all the motherfuckers that told him all those things were good and strapped in and boom and he jumps From the roof and it break. Oh my god. Oh that makes me so mad. This was this actually didn't just happen happen in the summer So this dude is in a plexiglass box there's the box there's

the box and he's there in the water and here's a shark boom and it comes right through the plexiglass easily could have bit him look at that easily could have gone they had to notice they had to notice that's what i'm saying you a goddamn fool this is what i'm saying you are what if the producers are like listen you want the show to get some fucking attention or not? That's what we do. We give them a plexiglass box. Right. Put a plexiglass box.

But is it going to stop the shark? Experts say. We have it right here in the paperwork. It's going to stop the shark. Yeah. It's shark proof. So the guy that they're interviewing, he says there's no cage that will stop a great white shark.

It's just something to help. They'll break through anything. He says, we told him it was shark resistant. How crazy is that? There's no cage that'll stop a great white shark it's just something to help they'll break through anything he says we told him it was shark resistant how crazy is that there's no cage that'll stop a great white shark these motherfuckers are still going shark diving are you out of your fucking mind that looks so flimsy dude that looks like a in and out box well yeah i mean look there's nothing that you can see through that's gonna stop a shark this dude look at this look at this thing go through this it barely misses that guy like barely misses biting him in half. He's just got a wetsuit on, man.

It blows right by him. And I'm not, I'm not, oh no. The fucked up thing is it's trying to eat him, man. That's the most fucked up thing. Show that again. The reason why it's going at him is because it wants to eat him. Yeah, it had already brushed by and like touched it once to find out like oh no actually I'm gonna come back after this Bro watch this look at this. This is coming to eat him

Bro fuck the ocean Fuck the ocean dude And the homies just filming it? A lady just got killed in Maui From what? From a great white they believe I'm not a great white. Um like they're not sure what shark it was. Great whites aren't in Maui It's uh, it would either be like maybe a tiger shark or something. What was she doing? There was there was snorkeling

And the people on the beach were watching this shark in this like Thrashing around and they yelled at the husband to come in I've already I've what's that body is not recovered. Jesus. I've always had an intense fear of the ocean and the only time I've ever been in the ocean is Is I got talked in by a girl when I was in high school And I and I immediately got stung on both feet by jellyfish never went again When I go to the beach, I chill on the sand. Meanwhile, there's a girl who she was 13 years old She got her arm bitten off by a shark surf and she got right back on the board.

Right after? Oh, yeah. She's got one arm now. Oh, you're not. I'm retarded. You don't mean. No, no. Not that day.

Oh, my God. She got back. Oh, my God. Can you imagine? We're too high. Yeah, we're too high. I probably did a bad job explaining it. That's what it is.

That's such a dumb question. I fucked that up because in my head I should have said and once she healed up Oh right you said she got right back on the boat That's a bad bitch So she got her arm bitten off by the Is it a video? She's a wicked surfer

And she's doing it all with one arm She lost her fucking arm to a shark man And she's right back at it Here's her video of it happening Wow The video of the shark biting her? I don't want to see that Don't show me that

Her story Oh If it is, it would be announced That is brave as fuck You see, I'm not Not only do you know it can happen to you, it did happen to you There's the shark Fuck that

Dude, fuck that Fuck that I know all you people, all you Dorian's out there. You'd love it. I'm Kelly Slater's World Championship Surfer who's a good friend? Oh, he's uh He's the best. He's a big wave surfer. He's the craziest. Yeah, but you but you know what though Laird Hamilton fuck you where people people look at what you do and say the same thing No, no, no, there's no sharks in my world Look at this What?

No one wants to do that Oh my god, that's Shane, look at him Look at that wave he's riding What kind of psychoticness is this? Look, I know that the danger isn't the same Look at that Look at the size of that fucking wave he's on, dude Imagine if that thing comes crashing down on you Look at the height of that fucking wave he's on, dude. Imagine if that thing comes crashing down on you.

Look at the height of that thing. And he's riding this with his balance on this ever-changing landscape of water. He's floating with a fucking billion pounds of water overhead, ready to collapse on him at any moment. And hopefully not knock him unconscious. Because when that water hits you like that a lot of people just go out man yeah these people they just build different dude but look like i was saying the the danger isn't the same but the fear is the same people look at people look at what you're doing they go oh you're gonna you're gonna wait a minute you're gonna go up and

speak in front of 50,000 people. That's insane to the average person. They would never. To them, they look at you just like, you're just as crazy as this motherfucker. Well, I'm letting them know. It's not the same. You're incorrect.

That is way harder. Fucking anybody can do this with practice. But you know what? To them, they look at that the same way we look at stand-up. Where it's like, you go after stage time, and they would never. And they look at that the same way we look at stand-up. Where it's like you go after stage time and they would never. And they look at that like, oh, there's a wave over there? Right. Where? Bro, they get jet skied out.

You ever see that? They get dragged out to the biggest waves, these crazy waves. So you're so far, you can't even get back on your own without that wave. That's crazy, man. man yeah the surf surfers people that do extreme sports they lost me they lost me because i see if you can get a video of them getting pulled by jet skis out to these they do it i think it's out near i believe there's a big one near mexico that they love that they go out to but aren't isn't everything shifting because of climate change and shit?

Like, aren't the waves, I just, I would imagine so. I don't know, though. I haven't heard anything. I don't study waves. All the stuff is moving. Look at this. They're jet-skied out here. Look at how far they are from land.

Jet-skies also save them, so, you know, that's very helpful, too. Like, they go get them when they crash. That's a good point. Because if you get hit by one of these fucking waves, Jesus. Well, imagine being the dude who, like, forgot to gas it up. Have you ever seen the highest wave anyone has ever surfed successfully? No. You want to shit your pants?

It's like when, you know those dudes are, like, walking on the top of skyscrapers, like, balancing with GoPros, and you're like, Jesus fucking Christ. Your hands get sweaty. That's how I feel about this one. Do biggest wave ever surfed. How tall is it? That's a good question. Look at this.

Watch this. Largest wave surfed. Watch this, dude. Look at the size of that thing. Look at the size of that wave, dude. That's insanity. What is that, 50-something feet? Who the fuck knows, man.

The term unlimited means that the surfer is towed to the wave, enabling them to catch waves that would be too strong to be caught. Otherwise. Otherwise. Oh, that's why they do it. Because they would never be able to keep up with it. 78 feet. That makes sense. 78 feet. 78 feet. That's crazy. Dude.

But one of these days, a surfer's gonna get caught out when it's like a tidal wave. 78 feet. I mean, they're going to get lucky and unlucky. That's what they're looking for. Oh, yeah. They want to die on that motherfucker. Perfect Storm. Have you ever seen that movie?

Yeah. Because they're going to catch like a 150-foot wave because an earthquake just happened to hit while they was out there. Oh, my God. And they might not survive, but they're going to be like, but I'm going out. but i'm going out going out a legend yeah that's true you would a lot of guys have in that world i mean that's that's their risk versus reward you know they live for it and there's way less money in it like the the people that are making up their like make a good living from it it's such a small percentage of the surfers in the world. Yeah, I can only imagine. And surfing's

hard to get into, man, because I didn't realize they're very territorial. If you're new somewhere and you're like, I'm just out here trying to figure it out, they'll hurt you. This is the plot to Point Break you're explaining right now. Man, this is a movie I haven't heard of

in a long time. Isn't that Patrick Swayze and Keanu Reeves? R.I.P. Patrick Swayze, man. Yeah, this movie was great. Roadhouse is the greatest movie to watch high ever. Roadhouse? I never heard of that movie. Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze?

You never heard of that movie? It's amazing. It's amazing. It's so over the top that if you're high, you just need to be a little high, and it teeters into the absolutely preposterous. Is it 90s or 80s? 89. It's amazing. Okay, yeah, yeah.

It's amazing. That was when Patrick Swayze was that dude. Remember Ghost? Oh, yeah. He was in Ghost. I loved Whoopi Goldberg when I was little. You got to watch this. Give me some volume on this.

That'd be like a nice podcast for you guys to do, Brian, if you guys have never seen it. Watching it now. Just watching Patrick Swayze movies? Well, that or the... This is the evil guy that owns the town? Anything can happen. Look at this. If somebody gets in your face, I want you to be nice.

Don't be rude. Ask him to walk, but be nice. Help this gentleman to the door. Until it's time to not be nice. So says the fighting philosopher. All this to do from Big Lebowski. Yes. If you keep talking, you're going to go off thinking I'm a nice guy. I know you're not a nice guy. So says the fighting philosopher. Oh, this is a dude from Big Lebowski. Yes.

Of course. Holy shit. He's all karate down up there. But Patrick Swayze was like a dancer. So he wasn't necessarily like a martial arts expert, but he really knows how to move his body well. So he got famous from then. Yeah.

The dancing was what, I mean, like for Dirty Dancing. What is this movie about? About a badass, bro. What the fuck is wrong with you? And that's the bad guy. He's the bad guy. Look, here's the other bad guy. The other karate bad guy. This is a karate fight to end this shit, bro. One of the greatest karate fights ever.

This fucking guns murder. Alright, you've convinced me. Roadhouse. They're redoing it with Jake Lillenhall. No, Jake can do it. I bet it's going to be great. Roadhouse They're redoing it With Jake Gyllenhaal Oh Well no Jake can do it He'll pull it off

I bet it's gonna be great Joel Silver's producing it Roadhouse Let me see Do they have that in there Conor McGregor's in it I bet it's gonna be great Maybe that's why

He left the USADA pool No He hurt his leg man Could be Some people said that Part of the reason Probably helped Helped a little bit

A little bit. Oh, yeah. It's on Netflix. Yeah. The original is. The new one, they're just starting to work on it now. Yeah. Or they just finished production, I think.

Oh. They did some stuff at the UFC. And Jake Gyllenhaal is playing Patrick Swayze? I think he's playing the Patrick Swayze character. Wow. Yeah. I believe so. Yeah. He's playing the badass.

He can pull it off. He did that Southpaw movie. Did you ever see that? Dude, he got fucking shredded. I think I did see it. Pull up Southpaw. It's a good fucking movie, man. It's a box.

It's a heavy movie. It's not like a cheesy movie by any stretch of the imagination. It's a very gritty movie, very realistic movie about this guy who's really fucked up. He was a killer boxer. You know what shit you got to see? Barbarian. Look at him. Look at him.

Bro. I mean, he got fucking jacked. I think I did see this. Dude, he looks like he's fighting in the UFC welterweight division. Like, look at him. He's fucking shredded there, dude. And this is some of the hardest acting to do. Look at that.

Like, boxing as though it's real right make it look real well he pulled it off man he's one of the few guys um that that's really pulled off looking like like he knows how to box daniel day lewis did it in that movie the boxer and he actually trained as a boxer for a year before he did that movie oh yeah yeah, well Daniel Day don't fucking around. Dude, he's the best version of like a guy who had died, but Jake Gyllenhaal nailed it.

He really looks like a modern day elite athlete that can fight. Like you buy it, there's never a moment where you're like, get the fuck out of here. Like why is he knocking everybody out? It seems real. Yeah, he's one of the best. Oh, he's phenomenal in this movie. But what was the other movie that I said?

That was it. No. I said Barbarian. No, no. There was another boxy. Oh, Daniel Day-Lewis. Pull up Daniel Day-Lewis from The Boxer. Oh, The Boxer.

Yeah. Okay, yeah. So the reason why this one is almost like it's almost more realistic. Like when you see him move around, this is almost – because the other one was like all knockout punches and shit, whereas most boxing matches, they're matches. Like a lot of shit goes on before a knockout punch. It's not like you just – unless you're Mike Tyson,

you're not just smashing everybody right away. So they're showing like clips, quick clips. But in that movie, see if you can show. This is the fight. When you see him fight, it looks like an actual fight. Like they're moving around and hitting each other. Like this is, he looks good, man. He looks good.

Like I'm buying that. He just knocked that guy out pretty quick too too Though so maybe this destroys my argument now with that But then you the way he the way he prepares for a movie is like insane He looked good there though, but so did Jake Gyllenhaal the point is like Jake Gyllenhaal almost looks too good He's like he's so shredded. He's like he looks more like a wrestler like an MMA fighter Then it's like there's a there's only a few boxers that are that jacked. There's like Anthony Joshua. There's a few guys.

Most guys are like Terrence Crawford. They're a little leaner. They're not quite as muscular. He got pretty muscular. Why do you think that is? Well, because you want to be the right size for the weight class, right? So if you're in a weight class, say, like 170 pounds, you want to maximize your frame. You want to fight in the weight class that your frame is suited for. Because if you're too big in the chest, you're slower because you have longer to reach.

There's also like some people are just naturally thicker and they're built like Dwight Muhammad Cowie. He was a heavyweight champion and he was champion, and he was a light heavyweight champion, and then he fought as a heavyweight, and he was like, I believe he was 5'7". Oh, wow. And Dwight Muhammad Khaoui, he was amazing, man. And he fought some wars back in the day. He fought Evander Holyfield.

I think it was cruiserweight. Now that I'm thinking about it. I think he beat Evander Holyfield for the cruiserweight title. I think that's what it was. I don I think it was cruiserweight. Now that I'm thinking about it. I think he beat Evander Holyfield for the cruiserweight title. I think that's what it was. I don't think it was light heavyweight. But he was a tank, man. And he would just, like, cover up and move in. You never heard of him?

No. Dude, he was a beast. But it's so unusual. See, pull up Dwight Muhammad Kawe versus Evander Holyfield. And this was when Holyfield just got back from the Olympics. How do you spell Kawi? Q-A-W-I. And it was like when Evander,

this was his first big test as a professional. This was like a world championship fight. And he lost? Yeah. No, Evander won. Evander beat him. That's how good Evander was.

Evander beat a lot of motherfuckers, man. And Kawi was in his prime back then. Look how short Kawi is, but he's just a tank. Look at the build on that dude. But look at his fucking defense. It was superb. And he was a murderous puncher. And just mauled people and kept pressure on them.

Just a masterful defensive fighter. And he was all over Evander. I mean, they had a real war, man. He tested Evander. But Evander won theander. I mean, they had a real war, man. He tested Evander. But Evander won the decision. Great fight, though. Great fight. You know, Evander Holyfield could take an ass whooping, man.

Oh, fuck yeah, he could. Remember the Riddick Bowe fights? Yeah. Riddick Bowe was huge. Riddick Bowe was huge and really fucking good. And that was the thing about, I think that was what frustrated so many people that were fighting him

is because he would just take your best and just keep fucking punching you. Mike Tyson, that fight. Yeah. Dude, I watched that fight

with Kevin James. We couldn't believe our eyes. We were in, I rented a house in Encino and we were watching it live on pay-per-view. It was the craziest fight ever. Especially the second one.

Yeah, the second one was nuts. Cause, cause you were like, there's no way, wellper-view it was the craziest fight especially the second one yeah the second one was nuts because because you're like there's no way well i guess it was only nuts because it ended the same way you bit him in the second one yeah yeah the first one he just beat him down evander beat him down the second one tyson bit him twice i think in my mind in my mind growing up mike t Tyson was the first person that I thought of as like truly invincible like I truly believed when I was a kid that nobody could beat him

you know everybody did everybody did because for a while it was true and you know what also blew my mind is it was the first time too because there were people that hated him there were people that just for a while, it was true. And you know what also blew my mind? It was the first time, too, because there were people that hated him. There were people that just because he won so much,

there were people that were like, fuck that guy. Of course. Oh, yeah. Like a lot of the old men in our neighborhood, they're like, I can't wait for somebody to teach these asses a lesson, you know? He was only 20. Right, but they just hated. It was like because he represented he represented the new

guard yeah it was like you know like all the motherfuckers they rooted for like he just beat the shit out of lorry holmes yeah and you know but there was always those guys like joe lewis what a mop the floor what i'm right right right right let him run up with maciano and you know it was like there was always those guys that were pulling out people from the past i think mike tyson beats them all i think Mike Tyson is prime the Mike Tyson that beat Marvis Frazier the Mike Tyson that knocked out Michael Spinks that Mike Tyson beats them all I mean he might not beat Ali I think he beats everybody else though I just think in his fucking prime man he was a force of nature. It was knowledge, right?

You know what we're talking about, like watching films? His manager, Jim Jacobs, had an enormous library of old fights. And they were on one of those projector things. And Mike Tyson would go down there and play old fights. So he would play, like, Jack Johnson fights. And he would play, like, Jack Johnson fights, and he would play, like, Max Schmeling versus Joe Louis. Right. Jack Dempsey.

He was a big Jack Dempsey fan. Because Jim Jacobs had this extensive library of these great, great old fighters. Stanley Ketchell, all these amazing guys that nobody ever heard. Harry Greb. And he would watch all these. Sugar Ray Robinson, Willie Pepp. And he would watch all these. Sugar Ray Robinson.

Willie Pepp. And he would watch all these. And he would absorb their styles. Did Willie Pepp die in the ring or something? I don't believe so. That name stands out to me for some reason. I don't believe so. Okay.

Benny Perrette died in the ring. Benny Perrette was killed by Emile Griffith. Emile Griffith beat him to death in the ring after Benny Perrette teased him for being gay. He kept talking shit about him being gay. And he beat the shit out of him? He beat him to death. Oh, was he gay? I believe so.

I believe so. I think that was the rumor. Wow. He beat him to death. But that wasn't illegal, right? Nope. I mean, he wasn't trying to. He was trying to knock him out.

But it's a—I forget what they call that fight. See if you can fight that fight because that's a rough one to watch the end. Emile Griffiths versus Benny Perrette. Was that the fight that, like, changed boxing where they had to, like, crack down on, like, safety rules? No. Oh, okay. The one that did that was Ray Boom Boom Mancini versus Duck Ku Kim. That was the one where

Duck Koo Kim died. And I think that was when they started to go to 12 rounds. I think they went to 12 rounds slightly after that. Because they were doing 15 rounds before. And I think Duck Koo Kim died in the 13th or 14th round. I forget which round.

I think they had decided that 12 rounds would be the right one. So this is Emile Griffith versus Benny Perrette. And this is the one where, you know, he was taunting him. And Emile Griffith

just fucking beat the shit out of him. So I'm guessing the guy on the right was the gay guy. The guy on the right is Emile Griffith, yes. Okay.

That's the gay guy. I don't know if he's gay but that's what that's what he was being teased about yeah and that was he was definitely being teased about that but that was the rumor that he was but look dude he just beats the fucking shit oh yeah so he's stuck in the ropes and emil griffith's just teeing off on him while he's out so he's trapped in the ropes and he collapses and then he's dead he's dead right now yeah he's dead man He's dead right now? Yeah, he's dead, man. Wow.

Yeah, he beat him to death. Watch that again. Watch that combination again because it's so crazy. Uppercut, and then he backs up. Right hand, right hand. This right here? Right hand. The ref should have stopped it right here.

Right hand, right hand. This is crazy. Right hand, right hand. Yeah, he's trapped. The only thing keeping him up is the punches. The punches are so hard, they're keeping his body upright as he's leaning up against the rope. Because he's dead right here. Bang.

Well, he's out right here. Right there, you could have stopped it. Right there, for sure. Right here? He's turning away, and he's hitting it with bomb after bomb, and he keeps going. One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two. I mean, he's just swinging at him afterwards. And the refs just sit there like this.

Yeah. There's been some horrific moments like that. Dude, remember the, who was the one guy? I can't remember his fucking name, but he. Ray Mercer versus Tommy Morrison. Wait a minute, that's from Rocky, right? Yeah. No, no, no.

You never saw that one? No. That might be the worst one ever. I'm talking about the guy who, he didn't die in the ring, but he had all this promise. Oh, Gerald McClellan. Maybe that's what I'm talking about. That's 100% who you're talking about. Yeah.

He was the guy that was a rival for Roy Jones Jr. So as Roy Jones Jr. was a champ, and he was a champ, and he fought Nigel Benn, and he almost put Nigel Benn out in the first round but they collided heads at one point in the fight and Nigel Benn hit him with some real good punches and he went down and took a knee and then he went back to his corner and he

quit and they couldn't believe he took a 10 count and everyone was like I can't believe he's taking a 10 count and he went back to his corner and he was so fucked up that it just slept over yeah this is him so he had nigel ben in all sorts of trouble knocked him out of the ring right nigel ben was one of the toughest motherfuckers to ever box he got back in the ring and survived so nigel ben knocked out of the ring and here's him after that so jerry mcclellan is just emptying the fucking gas tank here just swinging with everything he had and gerald mcclellan was a fucking murderous

puncher he knocked everybody out so he was assuming he was about to knock nigel ben out too but nigel ben wasn't going anywhere and so gerald mcclellan got fucking drained and then nigel started catching him look at that left hook nigel catches him. And Gerald tags him again. Right hand. Uppercut. But Nigel Ben just kept coming. And look, he catches him with that right hand. Look at that left hook.

Imagine being that hurt in the first round and Nigel Ben just comes storming out later in the fight. Yeah, it's crazy. Crazy the resilience. Crazy the endurance. So Gerald McClellan emptied his gas tank. And Nigel's catching him now. Catches him with a big left hook

and at one point in time they collided heads and it was a bad one. It was like a bang. You think that's what did it? No, no, no. It was all these punches for sure. But it was like, I think it was a collision of heads as well that someone had identified that was

really bad. But he hit him with some fucking bombs. Look, he dropped him again. So Gerald eventually comes back and drops Nigel again in the eighth round. And Nigel gets back up, and he's like, still not going anywhere. Boom, hits him with the left hook. This is after getting dropped again. Imagine hitting a motherfucker with everything you got.

And look at this combination. Boom, Nigel over the top of that right hand. So the point is, this was a fucking war. And look at this combination. Boom, Nigel over the top of that right hand. So the point is, this was a fucking war and there's another brilliant one. So we see like where he takes a knee.

Boom, look at that right hand. This is fucking sad. another right hand. So that's where it was. That's where he takes a knee. Yeah, this is sad.

So he decided to stay down. So he gets hit. He gets, I guess he got up for the first one, right right is that what they're saying oh so he goes down a second time so this is the second time and then look you see him like wincing in pain like holding his head and that's when he decided to stay down and so everybody's like i can't believe he you know he quit on his knee like that but then he

went back into his corner and he slumped. And he really never recovered. He went to the hospital and he's alive still, but he's like severely disabled. And I believe he's blind. What did it cause, like a brain bleed? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's the risk that these guys are taking, man. I mean, that's a crazy sport. You're throwing haymakers at each other with like thick padding over the top of it and that's that's him today and this like greatly affected roy jones jr too because you

got to think that roy and him almost fought right like they that was like a big super fight that people were setting up for the future and if roy and him down the line did wind up fighting that could have been roy or that could have been gerald like it could have been either one of them yeah like when when two guys are that good and they're swinging the way those guys were at each other my money would have still been on roy though because roy roy and his prime was fucking stupid good he was ridiculous in his prime no one could touch him he he would win entire rounds without even being hit to me you know what i compare roy to is anderson silver well where similar in that way like they were just so dominant for a while and he would win in such stylish fashion you know where it was it wasn't just that he was winning but he just made you look silly you know he was doing movie shit he was doing movie shit roy put

his hand behind his back and then knocked guy out with one. Roy put his hand behind his back and then knocked the guy out with one punch. Yeah. Put his hand behind his back, ducked, and then popped him with the right hand and knocked him out. But just like both, it's like eventually it catches up to you. Where it's like, you know, it's like you hit an age where like you don't realize, but you just a millisecond slower. Yeah. There's that. There's also this other speculation.

That speculation is that he went up to heavyweight to fight John Ruiz. And so he had a pack on weight. And then he went back down to light heavyweight. And I think the losing the weight to get back down diminished him severely. And then he fought Antonio Tarver. And Antonio Tarver was a murderous puncher and a motherfucker of a boxer. Antonio Tarver could box. And he said in the ring to Roy, because they had had one fight previously where it went to a decision

and Roy had some excuses, I guess. And so he says in the ring for the second fight, you got any excuses tonight, Roy? The referee goes, any questions? Any questions? And he goes, you got any excuses tonight, Roy? And Roy didn't say anything. And Tarver wound up knocking him out.

And then after that, he just kept getting knocked out, right? He got knocked out bad after that. What do you think that is? After somebody gets knocked out, it's almost like it's easier to knock them out after that. Well, he fought Glenn Johnson after that, who was a very talented

contender. I think Glenn Johnson was a little older at the time, and maybe people overlooked him He like he really had great success like later in his career But Glenn Johnson knocked out Roy in a scary knockout pulled that one up Glenn Johnson Roy Jones jr That was a scary one because this was after the Tarver one, but the Tarver one he was kind of he was conscious But he was fucked up. I mean Tarver cracked him and he went down but he was out conscious, but he was fucked up. I mean, Tarver cracked him, and he went down, but he was out, right?

But he was moving around. This one's even scarier because he bangs the back of his head when he goes down. And this was the comeback fight, right? And so Glenn Johnson was like a suitable comeback opponent, but nobody told Glenn Johnson that. Like Glenn Johnson came to that fight to win, and Glenn Johnson has his high guard. He's like really difficult style to deal with

and super, super tough guy. Just very, very skillful. And you know, this was Roy coming off of getting KO'd and whenever a guy comes off of getting KO'd, the odds of him getting KO'd again go up. I don't know. It depends on the person. Some of them it doesn't go up at all.

Some of them it only goes up slightly But some of them it goes up a lot for whatever reason it might be the damage They took from the first knockout it could be a lot of factors look at this boom He hits him in that right hand look how he goes out He goes out stiff He banged his head off the ground like watch that again because it is a fucking brutal series of punches he hits him with. Here it goes. So he gets him up against the ropes, sets him up for the right hand, and boom, he's out.

One hard right hand to the side of the head, and Roy's out. That was a rough one, but that's nothing like Ray Mercer versus Tommy Morrison. I think it's like your brain going, we're not taking any chances. Probably. Like, go down. There's probably something to that. Get Ray Mercer versus Tommy Morrison. This one was one of the worst.

And this one was one after the movie. So Ray Mercer, people thought about him as, like, this, like, gold medalist in the Olympics, murderous puncher. Like, he was a guy who was on the up. Like, he was coming up. And somehow or another, they set him up with tommy morrison who was a very good boxer and had beaten some good guys but he was just coming off of this movie so he was the fucking the in the rocky movies and he's fighting a guy that's just been doing nothing but boxing now tommy morrison's a movie star now and he's a young guy he's got to be distracted i

mean he's got to be not focused right and he's fighting a guy that he probably would have lost to anyway because Ray Mercer was a motherfucker. And so Tommy is doing well in the fight for a while, but then Mercer eventually catches him because Tommy starts getting tired. And that's one of the things about Tommy Morrison. If you look at Tommy Morrison in the early stages of his fights, he was always better. He would fade.

And eventually Ray Mercer catches him. And he hits him with that right hand. Now watch this. Boom. He's in trouble here, right? Boom, boom, boom, boom. Now this is why it's the worst one ever. Bro, he's tangled up in the ropes.

And the referee is too small to pull Mercer off of him. So he hits him with multiple punches while he's out cold. Look at this. This is over now. The referee doesn't get in there. Look how he gets in there. The referee's just like, hey, you, stop. Hey, you.

He's scared because he's a little old guy. He shouldn't be refereeing this fight. These are two elite heavyweights. These are enormous men. And this poor referee is old, got a little pot belly. He doesn't want to dive in there and get fucking murked. Yeah, yeah, little pot belly. He doesn't want to dive in there and get fucking murked. Yeah. And so, because of that,

Tommy Morrison takes haymakers. So he's out cold, and Ray Mercer's just full blast, teeing off, and another left hook after that, while the referee was holding onto his arms. Bro. Damn. That might be the worst. Did he survive? He lived, but he was never the same boxer again.

No, no way. He beat some good guys after that. He actually beat George Foreman after that. Yeah, old George Foreman. Old George Foreman. He won a decision off of old George Foreman. Look at that left hook. Boom, boom, boom, right hand.

I mean, this is horrendous, dude. We're looking at it from a different angle now. Look at this. I mean, come on, man. Boom. And then still, he's fully out cold and he got hit four or five times clean. This is like Benny Perrette all over

again. This easily could have been the end of his life. Yeah, for sure. Easily could have been and probably changed his brain. Because right here, I mean, what is this ref weight doing? I mean, but seriously, dude, this probably changed his brain forever, like, I mean, what is this ref waiting on? I mean, but seriously, dude, like, this probably changed his brain forever. Yeah, I mean, what? This is crazy beating.

What is it this ref is waiting to see? I don't know, man. That is a crazy beating. Because when you see a motherfucker getting hit in the face and they're not trying to stop it, the fight's over. You need a big referee with big men. You just, you need someone who can separate those guys. You need Herb Dean. You need Herb Dean.

He be diving in like he diving for first base. Mark Goddard. Mark Goddard's a big guy. Big John McCarthy was always great at it. He's a big guy. You want a big guy for big guys. I don't want no little motherfucker in there protecting me. Not like that, because that's not protect.

That guy didn't want to just dive in there and separate him. Who's pulling Ngannou off you? Oh my God. You know what I'm saying? You need somebody that can at least move that motherfucker. Yeah, yeah.

Jesus Christ. When Ngannou, when he knocked out Alistair Overeem and then fucking hammer fisted him when he was unconscious. And he got, I mean, and that was just in the nick of time.

Just in the nick of time. in the neck but can you imagine a referee being late on that oh my god like letting him hit him two or three more times oh my god while he's out cold and he's not gonna stop he's not gonna stop until the referee pulls him off that's his job yeah his job is not to stop when the guy's unconscious his job is to stop when the referee says stop yeah because the people have stopped when they thought a guy was out, and then the guy was okay and winds up winning a fight, which is the craziest thing to say. But I've seen it on these local circuits.

It does happen. Guys walk away, and the guy gets up and winds up winning the fight somehow. I'm pretty sure I've seen that. I might be talking shit. When a guy's concussed, though, they don't get up, right? When they do that? No. No.

No, those guys don't generally get up. Nah. I mean, different people, it's like different kinds of concussions are different. But I've never- Different kinds of knockouts are different. Some people get knocked out and they come back and they're like, what happened? Oh, fuck, man. And then they seem fine.

When I used to be all judgmental, I'd be like, he ain't have to hit him again. But it's like, I'm not a fighter. I don't fucking know. Dude, they be all judgmental. I'd be like, he ain't have to hit him again. I'm not a fighter. I don't fucking know. They don't have to. People do applaud people that don't hit someone while they're out. He showed really good judgment there. That's great. Mark Hunt was the king of the walkaway KOs. Mark Hunt would uppercut

you and just walk away. He knew. He'd watch you crumble and be like, you're not getting up. Yeah. There's the opposite. Like the Black Beast. Derek Lewis? Derek Lewis. Derek Lewis.

He liked to see people get hurt. He hits you when you're out. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's his job. Like, and one for good measure. Yeah. His job is the referee has to pull him off.

The referee has to stay stopped. The referee has to get him to stop. He's like a Genghis Khan type of motherfucker. He's a bad man, very bad man. The hardest puncher probably ever. He hits guys, he hit Curtis Blades so hard, it was just a short uppercut, boom, and Curtis just went flat out.

He's one of those people that's truly never out of a fight. Never. Remember when he hurt his back? Yeah. And when he came back, he wasn't the same. Well, it sometimes locks up on him still. Yeah, but he still. Oh, he's always so dangerous, man.

Still. When he fought Alexander Volkov, he was losing that fight. Didn't he knock out Ngannou? No, he beat Ngannou by a very boring decision. Oh, okay. It was one of the most boring fights of all time. Neither guy engaged. And it was like Derek apparently had a fucked up back,

and Francis was like dealing with just losing to Stipe. And so he didn't engage much. He was like uncharacteristically apprehensive. But that fight probably, I think that fight turned Francis into a fucking monster. Well, he came back from that like a beast. And he knocked out Curtis Blades in one of his fights. He knocked out Junior Dos Santos. And the knockout of Stipe was just horrific.

Like, that knockout was wild. Like, that knockout was just, you know, it just showed, first of all, it showed how good he had gotten. Because it wasn't just that he knocked him out. He did it patiently and with technique. And he took him down a couple times, right? No. He didn't go to the ground with Stipe? No, I don't believe so in the second

fight. Then what fight am I remembering then? The first fight. I'm pretty sure the second fight only took place on the feet. I'm pretty sure. The first fight, Stipe took him down a bunch of times. No, I'm talking about Ngannou. Took down Stipe? I remember Ngannou

taking a fight to the ground. Oh, no, that was Cyril Ghosn. Okay, right, right, right. This is like the misinformation boxing MMA podcast. You're right, because I'm too, my memory's all fucked up right now. That's the way. But you're right, it's the Cyril Ghosn fight. Yeah, that was because Ngannou went into that fight with a torn ACL.

Yeah, so his leg was fucked up. He tore his ACL and his MCL. So he had two fucked up ligaments in his knee. What? So why fight? Because he wanted to win and he wanted that money. And he thought he could beat him even with a fucked up knee and he was right.

So then after the fight, Nguyen got surgery. So he hasn't been back since. And what they're trying to set up is Francis Ngannou versus John Jones. Man. And here's my thing. Hey Francis, I'm a huge fan bro. But please don't fight John Jones. Man. And here's my thing. Hey, Francis, I'm a huge fan, bro.

But please don't fight John Jones with nothing broken. You know what I'm saying? Well, they fixed his knee. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's got knee surgery. He's rehabilitated it. He's back, you know. I don't know what level of rehabilitation has been completed, but he's on track.

He's been surgically repaired. Bro, I'm seeing that fight. Yeah. He's also using the UFC PI, I think. He was using them a while. He uses them for some things. What's the PI? The Performance Institute. Oh, okay. There's a bunch of experts there. They could give you good methods of healing injuries,

and they're up on the latest science and, you know, the latest studies about – they have a great facility too. The facility is fantastic, man. It's just filled with heavy bags and a cage where you could film all your sparring sessions. The hype for that fight. Oh, my God. It's going to be – But wait a minute.

It's going to be the biggest fight of all time. You think John is going to – like you think that's going to be his first fight back? Yeah, I do. Yeah, I think that's exactly what John wants to do. I think it's a bad idea, but also I think he has his ego, the way his ego's set up, he likes the idea of doing something that people think is crazy that can't be done. I don't think it's a bad idea. No?

No, I don't think it's a bad idea at all. Well, let me ask you this. I think, first of all, both guys are going to be out of condition for a while, or out of competition, rather, for a while. John's been out for a couple years now, and Francis will be out for a year because of his surgery. True. So whenever it does take place,

let's say they try to make it take place in the spring. So if they do make it take place in the spring, that is a long time off for both guys. It's longer for Francis for sure. But it's still, they both have like a little bit of a layoff. No, it's longer for John. Oh, I'm sorry. Longer for John for sure. That's what I meant.

I meant to say it the other way. It favors Francis for sure because Francis is only like a year, whereas John is a couple of years. But a year is a long time to not fight. I don't know if it's any better or worse to do it once a year versus twice or once every two years. Both of them will give you a certain amount of ring rust. But also John's not only been out for two years, but now he's moving up a weight class. He's never fought a heavyweight. But he's trained with a lot of heavyweights,

and the results were very favorable. The stories that I had heard from Jackson Wink about Jon Jones and heavyweights made me think, like, why doesn't he just fight heavyweight? Because, like, at a certain point in time when he was dominating the light heavyweight division, there was some discussion about that. You know, when he, like, after he knocked out Daniel Cormier,

you know, like, there was a lot of discussion about him, like, would he, like after he knocked out Daniel Cormier, you know, like there was a lot of discussion about him. Like, would he ever move up? Here's this UFC 285 odds. Whoa. Jon Jones is betting underdog against Francis Ngannou, but healthy favorite to wallop Curtis Blades. Oh, so this is the story behind that. So if Francis is not ready in time, if he's injured still, because, you know you know knee rehabilitation it's a tricky thing and you know you're not getting like up-to-date like updates of how he's doing every day so he might

be training and might tweak it guys do that all the time yeah and then it then it's another three months another four months you definitely can't you can't fight that man you can't fight a torn nothing especially not john when it comes to wrestling, right? Because he's going to utilize that advantage that he has. John Jones took down Daniel Cormier. You got to always remember that. Oh, yeah, I remember. But everybody's got to remember that.

Because you think about, like, he was a junior college level champion. You know, he was an elite wrestler. But that's just because he went to junior college. Like, if John Jones was in another school, like a a division one school he would have been a champion there too john jones was a motherfucker of a wrestler and the way he takes guys down in the ufc and the way he would like manhandle guys he's got immense physical strength like it's it's fucking immense and he knows how to fight man he knows how to win fights he knows how to fight, man. He knows how to win fights. He knows how to do the right thing at the right time. He's got an octagon IQ that's as high as anybody ever.

And he's also long as shit. So he knows how to use that length. And I think he also has that little extra something. Yeah, he's crazy. Where he doesn't care if you die. The way he throws some of them elbows, it's almost like he doesn't care if that die. Like, the way he throws some of them elbows, it's almost like he doesn't care if that elbow crushes your fucking skull. You know?

There's a little more intent with him when you see him hit people. He's a bad man. There's no doubt about that. He's a bad man. One of the scariest Jon Jones finishes was when he choked unconsciously out of Machida and just dropped him. Yeah, standing up? Yeah. He had him in a standing guillotine, put him to sleep, and just dropped him

like a sack of potatoes. Yeah. That was dark. Yeah, he's vicious. That was dark. And what kind of dog does he have? He says a Malmior? Malmois.

A Malmois. Malinois. A Malinois. Belgian Malinois. They're dangerous dogs. Yeah, it's crazy to have that. They're little raptors. Yeah.

He's a different kind of person, man it's just tactical training all day, dude You ever see those videos that he posts he's really good. He's like very skillful guns. I thought I stopped following him I'm still a fan, but it's like the day-to-day Social media shit. I don't I very rarely do I follow the people that I really like because I don't want It's like I rather just like what you do. You know me I get it. I don't, I very rarely do I follow the people that I really like because I don't want, it's like I'd rather just like what you do. You know what I mean? I get it.

I don't want to see your everyday shit. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. Some people overshare. Yeah, or it's like, or it's like there's a, because you're in a position now where you can meet almost whoever you want. And it's like, how many times have you met somebody you've been a fan of for years and it's been a disappointment? You know what I mean? Yeah, that does happen. But it also doesn't happen.

Like, I met Jared Leto and he's really cool. He's a really nice guy. He was friends with Theo. But you're definitely rolling the dice. You're rolling the dice, but every now and then, I don't even know, man. It's like, I've met enough of them that I'm thinking maybe I'm prejudiced. Like, maybe I was just you know, you look at, like I've met enough of them that I'm thinking maybe I'm prejudiced.

Like maybe I was just, you know, you look at like famous people and particular actors and you just almost want them to be douchebags. So like you look at it in a biased sense. Like Chris Pratt is one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life. He's so friendly. Did we meet him in Vegas? I think I met him in Vegas with you. Yes. Okay.

I believe you did. I believe you did. He's the sweetheart. He's the nicest guy. He's like a legitimate Christian and like a really kind, friendly person. Yeah? I went elk hunting with him. Yeah.

I mean, you know what? He's nice to everybody, man. It's not fake. He's like a really, really good guy. What I've noticed is that the people that are secure in their careers are usually cool people. Yeah, but it's like, how are you secure in that business? It's always in flux. You're always coming and going.

I think he's at peace with that. He's at peace with that. It's just like when you meet Jim Carrey or somebody like that somebody like that in there and you hear or Keanu Reeves and you hear about how nice and how sweet they are and it's like I think they've just come to peace with as much as that business can fuck you up right they've the stuff that because the reason the reason Hollywood fucks you up is because they start making you care about things that aren't real or don't really matter and you lose sight of what really matters but but the people that hold on to what matters like like it's like it's oxygen they they're the ones that come

out the other side like pretty okay yeah you can you can do it you know it's like you can win the tour de france people have won it yeah because for most people it's just a pressure cooker that fucks with your head to a point where it's really hard to maintain Especially when you're a star right and nobody when you will Smith and nobody checks you nobody ever goes. Hey bitch be quiet Well Smith, you know, right right? Like how long has it been since somebody's been like shut your stupid ass up that guy that moment was the first moment like that Probably ever for him Where he lost control. Well, not just that he lost control. He did it publicly He showed his ass in front of the whole world, and he was humiliated by it.

Everybody was mad at him. There's a few people that supported him initially. Like, you don't talk shit about a man's girlfriend. But he didn't even talk shit. It was a mild joke. It was like a dad joke. Now he's trying to make the comeback with the slave movie. Well, I think they were already filming that.

I think it's already out. Yeah, but I think they were already working on that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think he's just hoping that people forget. I might be wrong about that, but I was under the impression they were. Was that true, Jimmy? Or they made it in the last five months, which seems a little. No, no, no.

Yeah, I think they were already working on that. Is it out on Apple TV already? Yeah. But you know what, though? I don't know because I'm so much... Like, pretty much everyone in my life is a comedian, so it's hard for me to know if the average person feels the way I feel

because it's hard for me to overlook it. Yeah, you don't have to overlook it. You know, just forgive them. People do stupid shit, and they lose their their fucking head and they do things in a way that they think is justified, whether it's because they're famous or because it's deserved or the relationship they have with their significant other that leads them to believe that they have to defend that woman or she's going to be upset at them later and they would rather just go on stage and smack chris rock in front of everybody but you can tell that he had lost his mind because he was saying keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth and he was saying it and the whole place was silent

and he had to realize that the whole place was silent and he had to realize why those words were coming out of his mouth that this was on television in the Academy Awards, and he was scheduled to win an Oscar. And he's like, am I still winning this fucking Oscar? Like, what is going to happen now? What the fuck did I do? And then to have it go from that to not knowing how the world's perceiving it, to then you go on stage, and you cry, and you apologize, and they give you an Oscar, and everyone gives you a standing ovation.

So you think it's over yeah until you so maybe there's no Wi-Fi at the Oscars right but I don't think they ever I don't think he probably fully grasped after everyone gave him a standing ovation, I bet he still thought he was okay. Yeah, man. Because you got to understand the world they live in. I think a lot of, I mean, he was dancing at the fucking party, the after party. Yeah, Puff Daddy came up on stage and was like, well, we're going to have to talk about this later. Yeah, I mean, he shouldn't have done it. And they, you know, like like it's a fucking tremendous mistake.

But the miscalculation is that you don't control Twitter, man. But it's also, are you going to like, you're going to like dismiss all the great movies that guy's made? I Am Legend. No. I Robot. All these, I mean, he made some killer fucking movies. Is he like useless now? No, no.

Like, let the guy realize he fucked up. I mean, Chris Rock is the one who really has to forgive him if he forgives him. If he forgives him, it's basically over. I think, and I think he will eventually. Maybe. Maybe Chris is like, that was like his sign that, you know, all that, to be smacked in the face and then they give that same guy a standing ovation. Like, these are the people I'm working with? Yeah, fuck these people.

Why am I working with these people? I think that shit unlocks some shit. Exactly. Well, dude, he's been murdering. Murdering. Murdering. Like old school Bring the Pain, Chris Rock. Yeah, because I think he got freed.

Because like I said, it's like, you know, because Patrice called it the golden handcuffs. It's like, the deeper you get in Hollywood, it's like, the more they give you, the more they give you, the more they give you. But all that shit come with, at any time, we can yank it away. Yeah. And it's like, as soon as you stop giving a fuck about all that, like, take it, motherfucker. Like, if you have that, I think it opens up something for you. Also, at the same time time he starts going on tour

with dave chappelle yeah which is amazing so he was doing his own tour and then dave and him combined and then they're doing a they did a series of shows they did london they're doing all over the fucking world and they're taking rigging so it's just yep took ring i ran into them we all had uh we went to pasta bar phil Phillip's place. Here? Yeah. Oh, that must have been great. That was amazing. Chris and I, we text each other and after the shows,

I had a show with the Vulcan and he had a show with the Vulcan. Phillip is dope, man. He's the best. We went to his house for Thanksgiving. Yeah, he's the best.

Yeah, these motherfuckers had the nerve to have a potluck. Oh, no. Right. Phillip Franklin Lee. Right, right. Phillip Franklin Lee is like one of the best chefs

in the world, and his wife is one of the best pastry chefs in the world. And all of us are bringing our little fucking, you know, our little dishes to there. So he set us up at Pasta Bar late night. They did a late night seating. It was me and Chris and who else? William Montgomery went, Tony Hinchcliffe.

Oh, shit. Oh, yeah, dude. It was amazing. A couple of Chris's friends, we had. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah, dude. It was amazing. A couple of Chris's friends, we had a great fucking time. They gave us wine pairings and food. We ate until like 1.30 in the morning. Yeah, that's the one thing that would make me break my, because I think I'm going to do what you said. We're going to do a public weight loss thing. I'm going to go the whole month of January.

Don't think of it as weight loss. This is what you got to think of it. Lifestyle change. Yes. Adjustment. Yes. loss thing i'm gonna go hold the whole month of january don't think of it as weight loss this is what you gotta think lifestyle change yes adjustments yes just think of it as a life change yeah like and you can do it it's not that hard if you can do stand-up you could do this yeah all you have to do is like i was telling you about that sober october thing like you know the committing to 500 calories or committing to writing for two hours, just commit to doing a certain amount of exercise every day. And you don't have to make it 500 calories. That's a lot.

You build up to that. But you could start off with 150. Start off with 150 calories. That's a reasonable amount of calories for one workout. Oh, burning that man. Yeah, burning. Oh, I thought you meant only eating that man. I was like, I think I'm going to die from it.

No, no, no. You'll be dead. You'll be dead. I'm sorry. You get a chest You'll be dead. I'm sorry. You get a chest strap. That's what I'm saying. Let's not think about losing weight. What you really want to think about is being healthy, and weight will just come off, especially if you just eat healthy.

You know what I realized, Joe, recently? I realized that discipline is also a muscle. Yeah. And it's one of mine that I've allowed to atrophy. It's not enough to just know what to do, but the will to do it, to like will yourself past your, like you say it every day,

your inner bitch. The ability, because you've seen a man whose wife is like mean to them and you just look at him like, oh, you poor motherfucker. And it's like, that's what it is. Your inner bitch is like belittling you. And to stand up to that, that's a muscle that I haven't, and that's what it is. Just the discipline to make myself do something every day other than comedy, because that was my problem,

is I let everything fall by the wayside to do comedy, to just focus on comedy. And it worked. It made me good at comedy pretty quick. But now that I'm in the midst of the success, you've got to be healthy to do this, to actually be on the road every weekend and constantly writing and constantly auditioning. It beats you up if you're not. Yeah, and I let all of that go.

And it's like now I've got to focus on that. But the most important thing is you've done it before, so you can get in shape again. Oh, yeah, I can definitely get in shape again. All you have to do is make a number and do that number every day. So we'll get you a polar chest strap. That's what I use. You can use any one you want. But the chest strap seems to be the one.

It's a heart monitor. Oh, okay. So it works with an application. So you put it on. It's a strap. You wrap it around. It's a little sensor. It sits right here.

And you have an app on your phone, and you start your workout. And it'll tell you what your heart rate is at any given time and it'll tell you when you get to whatever your calorie goal is so you just decide on you know whatever the number is whether you want i think 150 is a good number to start with and you just do it every fucking day every single day don't ever take a day off. Unless you're sick. If you're sick, don't work out. But if you're not sick, don't take the day off. You don't work out when you're sick?

No. Oh. No, when I'm sick, I give my body a chance to recover. Because you know what I hear in my head? When I was taking care of myself and I would be sick, you know what? I would hear that dude. Fuck, I forget his fucking name. but you know who I'm talking about he had a heart thing but at first he had

he had the uh the he had the record C.T. Fletcher C.T. Fletcher and he was my man he's just your fucking set yeah yeah I would always hear that my daughter was wearing his hoodie the other day really and I said do you know what that stands for? She doesn't. She goes, no. I go, this is my 14-year-old, so it's okay. I go, it's still your motherfucking set. Right. And she goes, no, it doesn't.

I go, that's what that means. That's what it means. That's what it means. That's CT Fletcher. Yeah. It's still your motherfucking set. That's that mentality. It is. He had a crazy mentality when it come to work ethic

and pushing himself. He's got like that David Goggins, whatever the fuck gene they got. It's just drive. Bro, imagine if you could get David Goggins, if you could mix the genes of David Goggins and John Jones' mom. Because don't forget, her other son is in the NFL. Yeah, well, you know, it's the grandma the grandma is okay he he john jones told me he's like this is grandma that's where we get all our genes from what is grandma grandma is like a super athlete no way what is who is it you should see her she's she's such a specimen of womanhood she's still alive

she's still alive and what she did i don't know, man. She fucked me up. If that lady was mad at me, I'd be fucking terrified. Yeah, I bet. I bet. For real. And like his brother's a star in the NFL and his other brother's a star in the NFL. Yeah, it's insane. And both of them could have fought. Both of them could have fought. And his brother, I think Arthur had done a lot of

I think it's his brother Arthur. Is that the bigger one? No, Chandler's bigger. Chandler's the bigger one. Chandler's younger. Arthur's older, though. I think it's the older brother. I think it's Arthur. Arthur's done a bunch of MMA training.

There's videos of him training. People were speculating that he was going to have a fight. Dude, that's a family. Do you think? Yeah. But out of all of them, I mean, look what Jon Jones has done, man, for fighting, man. Yeah. It's just, it's incredible.

Yeah, because the thing is, as athletic- That's his grandma. Look at her. Wow. She's so strong, man. But as athletic as the whole family is, it's like none of them are the greatest at what they're doing. Like, he's the- He's the greatest.

Yeah. It's hard. I think GSP is the only. Again, this is me being a slightly above filthy casual. But I think GSP is the only person where you could really make an argument. For all time great? Yeah. You can make an argument for Khabib too.

Khabib, he retired undefeated. John Jones is also undefeated, I should great? Yeah. You can make an argument for Khabib, too. Khabib, he retired undefeated. Jon Jones is also undefeated, I should say. Jon Jones has one loss on his career, and it's a bullshit loss, where he destroyed the dude, but he was hitting him with downward elbows, which is the dumbest fucking rule in the game. The absolute dumbest rule in the game. You can hit a guy with any kind of elbow except for a downward elbow. That makes zero sense.

You can block that the same way you block any other kind of elbow. Side elbows, downward elbow. You can figure out a way to block it. It has to be a weapon. The reason why it was made illegal is so stupid. It has to do with people being ignorant way back in the early days of MMA. Okay. They thought you'd break bricks with it on TV, so you can't have that in the octagon.

It's too dangerous. Really? That's how Big John McCarthy talks about it. It was his experience with these people trying to like... And bro, these athletic commissions, they are so slow to change. Some of them are. Some of them are really good.

California's really good. Yeah, but they've never... Vegas is really good. Because I remember seeing something recently about the biggest bullshit decisions and how I don't think they've ever overturned an MMA decision, the Nevada people. I don't think they've ever overturned, even the most egregious, unfair bullshit, they've never overturned.

Yeah, I don't think they have either. I don't know if that's a fact, but I don't know of any offhand that I could just pull a lot of shit out of the top of my head. So it's like you got Jon Jones, you got Khabib, you got GSP. I still say BJ Penn in his prime at lightweight. Motherfucker. You for sure have Khabib. You know, there's some—Camaro could have been right there. Yeah.

If Camaro didn't lose to Leon, if Camaro just moved away for that last minute of that last round and didn't get head kicked, people would be talking about Kamaru in that same category. They already were. Dominated everybody, man. And he might still come back. He might still come back. Yeah. But he's had some real problems with his injuries.

Knee injuries that are real bad. Hand injury that he had to get surgery on. He's had some real problems with his um with his uh injuries uh knee injuries that are real bad uh hand injury that he had to get surgery on he's had some real problems he's always like remember when he i think when he won the title his it was something wrong with his foot well he i think so well he also had bad knees forever like real bad like since college just like wrestling yeah yeah real bad like fucked up cartilage. Like constant pain. Where like he had to go downstairs backwards while he was training for a fight. His knees were in so much pain that he'd go downstairs backwards. And then when he would walk on like sidewalks and there was grass next to it, he'd walk on the grass because it didn't hurt his knees.

That's the kind of pain. That's the kind of mental strength he has to be able to fight. He's just willfully destroying his knees. And if you look at his body, his legs, like the size and the musculature of his legs is not comparable to the musculature of his upper body. And I've always wondered if that's related. Because if you look at his upper body, he's fucking shredded and jacked, but he has fairly small legs for a guy that big, but severe knee problems.

I think about it all the time, but man, fighters are the most used up and thrown away. For what they give up, for the chance to be great. But if you can do it, the glory for many of them. Yeah, but even after the glory, we throw them away. Well. The moment they start getting knocked out, people start. Their time is done. You know?

Yeah. The thing is, like, do they deserve more? What do they deserve? Yeah, they deserve more. I don't know. Well, some of them get to do commentary, which is great. Like, DC has transitioned into commentary, which is brilliant. Yeah.

It's perfect. The perfect amount of losses, the perfect time in his life. He steps out. That's a wrap. And he's good at it. He's very good at it. And he has a unique skill set in wrestling.

He can describe wrestling better than anybody. But a lot of fighters, though, you know, in their career, they all hear something like Herschel Walker. Yeah. Dominic Cruz is really good at it, too. So is Michael Bisping. So is Paul Felder.

There's a lot of guys that wind up doing other stuff and they become successful at it. It's totally possible. It's just real hard. It's a real hard transition. Because there's more people that's like Mark Hunt where they end up having to fight well past their primes just to keep food on the table. Do you know Mark Hunt just won, beat an undefeated boxer by knockout? What? Yep, in Australia. Huge, huge fight. This guy was this up-and-coming, undefeated prospect,

and it was this big deal that he was going to fight Mark Hunt. Mark Hunt was a huge underdog and knocked this dude out cold. You want to watch it? Let's watch it. This podcast is 1,000 hours long. I know, right? How long have we been talking? Hours. It's it yeah this podcast is a thousand hours long i know right how long we've been talking hours it's 6 30 four and a half hours what brian simpson we haven't even got up to pee i know dude i gotta piss so bad so we'll watch this and we'll wrap this up yeah let's wrap it up let's give props to mark hunt a legend a legit legend i mean mark Hunt Was it in K1? No, it was in Australia. It was a boxing

match. Mark Hunt boxing match. I think the dude's initials were RSV or something like that. I wasn't aware of who this dude was. Yes. He's an undefeated young boxer and it was supposed to be a fight where he was going to show the world

because Mark Hunt is this famous UFC fighter. K1 world because Mark Hunt is this famous UFC fighter, K-1 champion. Mark Hunt went to K-1 Grand Prix way back in the day. Mark Hunt's been fighting forever. He was nasty with it. Dude, he was a tank. Also had the greatest chin of all time.

He got head kicked by Crow Cop and got right back up. When Crow Cop was wearing shoes, Crow Cop was wearing wrestling shoes, and he head kicked him. Yo, why do you think it is that people don't stay atop the heavyweight division that long? It's the power those guys have. Yeah. You get hit by a guy that big.

So many people that were heavyweights where it was like, this person's the GOAT. And then the next person's like, no, it was this person. If you're a guy like, here it is. Best video I could find. Boom, boom, boom. So this is Mark Hunt teeing off. And this is this young, it was this person. If you're a guy like, here it is. Here's the best video I could find. Boom, boom, boom. So this is Mark Hunt teeing off, and this is this young, undefeated fighter. Sonny Bill Williams was his name. Sonny Bill Williams.

SBW. I guess that was it. And Mark Hunt just KO'd him. How does Mark Hunt even still talk straight? He talks great. Yeah. Dude, he's got no problem. Whatever that gene is, you get more CTE if you have that gene.

That's like that Samoan shit. APOE4. Yeah, exactly. Oh, there's a... Hold on. Are you serious? Yes. There's a gene. There's a gene that leads you to have a higher likelihood of CTE.

Wow. I believe it's called APOE4. Yeah. Oh. Brian Simpson, I love you to death. Let's go pee. Let's go pee, dude. This was a lot of fun.

Do some shows tonight. Yeah, love you too, man. Thank you. Holla. Love you too death. Let's go pee. Let's go pee, dude. This was a lot of fun. Do some shows tonight. Yeah, love you too, man. Thank you. Love you too. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.