The Joe Rogan Experience - #1998 - Ali Siddiq

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

Ali Siddiq is a stand-up comic, writer, and public speaker. His new special, "The Domino Effect II: Loss," is available now on YouTube. www.alisiddiq.com ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! What's happening? How you doing? I'm doing great. You are a perfect example of how sometimes the universe throws you a little curveball and it turns out to work out better for you.
Starting point is 00:00:22 We were talking about it before, right before the show, and I wanted to congratulate you on the success of your special thank you because you were in this position where hbo had decided not to air it because you had opinions and they said well we don't agree with your opinion so you can't have opinions that are different than ours you didn't even say anything i didn't think it was your feelings on things which I feel like you're allowed to have and boom you put it on YouTube and boom how many views does it have now first one
Starting point is 00:00:52 8.8 million million 8.8 million you know what the odds of you getting 8.8 million on HBO are zero it's zero unless you're on the fucking game of thrones premiere i was ready to do math in my head and everything
Starting point is 00:01:10 i was thinking it was like zero don't even think about zero it's never i mean maybe you gotta go back to like sam kinnison maybe he's got 8 million. Maybe. Wow. Yeah, I mean, not that many people watch those shows, but YouTube is beautiful. I mean, they fuck you on a lot of different things. They'll pull you for discussing legitimate medical studies. This guy got pulled. Did you see that thing?
Starting point is 00:01:38 I tweeted it. He got pulled off of YouTube. They killed his whole channel for reading Lancet studies on psychiatric drugs. Bro, it's crazy. It's crazy. They did a study on him. Well, it was on children and psych medications.
Starting point is 00:01:57 It was on children, and I believe it was SSRIs, which was antidepressants. Are they prescribing those to children now? They've been prescribing them for children. They've been doing it for a long time. But they do not like when people discuss the negative side effects on YouTube. I would assume advertising pressure. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. You can discuss getting the belt or getting whipped, but you can't discuss the negative side effects of a drug.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Isn't that wild? Yeah, you could openly discuss being abused as a child, being beaten. Yeah, so this gentleman, what's his name? Roger McFillin, Dr. Roger McFillin. He was, so this is what he said. Our YouTube channel was terminated in less than 24 hours. No warnings, explanations, or strikes. After we posted a video highlighting published science, black box warnings, and known adverse reactions of antidepressants for youth.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Why do you think this was censored? And then, what's weird as a YouTube responded underneath it they responded hey here to let here to help you know YouTube channel URL we'll see what we can find here's how to find it like no they kill his whole channel he said you terminated my I don't like saying you it's probably a person right it's probably not that person it says you terminated my youtube channel for posting published scientific literature it's for reasons like this that youtube is losing the public trust man it's that that dance of advertising you
Starting point is 00:03:35 know that's the dance the dance of advertising and government control it's kind of spooky it's kind of spooky well i'm um well i've been living in the neighborhood it's been of spooky it's kind of spooky shit well I've been living in a neighborhood that's been government controlled for a long time not really spooky to us we like oh regular government nonsense not good this is the reason why we don't trust
Starting point is 00:04:02 anything brown people, black people, we just don't. Ah! Like, as soon as you say it, like, as soon as you not trusting it. Well, it's for a good reason. It's not like everything's going great and nobody trusts the government. Yeah. Like, but a lot of people are pro-government.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Like, government everything. Well, I think they just sold a narrative. You know, I think they sold a narrative and they think anti-government is bad. So they're pro-government. And I've had some maddening discussions with intelligent people that I respect where they're saying the government should regulate the Internet. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? The same people that are engaging in insider trading, they should regulate the Internet. Are you out of your fucking mind?
Starting point is 00:04:49 You know how crazy that is? Who said that? That guy used to be the publisher of Rolling Stone magazine, man. In the 60s and the 70s when Rolling Stone was the counterculture. He was telling me that they should regulate the internet. We had the most maddening conversation and I respect him so much and I love him so
Starting point is 00:05:07 much for what he did in the past I think that was connected to you know the internet kind of destroying magazine sales mmm it could be but it's also I think it's an ideology man I think it's an ideology I think these people have in their head that good government with good people is good. And the problem is bad government and bad people. But we've never had, I mean, what was the fucking last time where you were 100% satisfied with all the things the government was doing? They were doing everything they said they were going to do. Even if the president wants things done when they're running for office, those things never happen once they get in office.
Starting point is 00:05:46 That's a very white question We ever satisfied like never never well maybe Kennedy, you know Kennedy gave people hope Seems like he was giving people hope But I mean that was before my time those before your time. He was killed four years before I was born. Did you like Carter? Well, the thing about Carter is if you listen to Carter talk, and this goes back to Rolling Stone magazine because Hunter S. Thompson went to Jimmy Carter's campaign speech. And it was so moving to him that he actually went out to his car and got his tape recorder and brought it back in and started listening and recording it. I don't think any president has the ability. There's a reason why the government is set up the way it's set up.
Starting point is 00:06:38 It's set up so the president can never become a tyrant. The president can't make his own laws. This is how the government is divided. This is laws so they can't make the this is how the government is divided this is the concept behind the beginning of the country the beginning of the country i think even if you're a good person you're in a bad job you're in a bad job with a bad machine and that machine wants to make money and if it's making money by selling people drugs or it's making money by going to war it's making money by finagling the economy in some bizarre way anytime there's something to gain on the other end without public knowledge
Starting point is 00:07:13 it's going to be a problem of course that's the game the sleight of hand that's the game that's the game they're in i mean to pretend they don't do that. I felt like some things shouldn't be on the internet, though. So I'm like, damn, is nobody regulating this shit? Like what? Like a lot of things that people just... I don't know what a lot of people have followers
Starting point is 00:07:38 for, because they so fall to the craziness. It's insane. You're like, what? That's true. That's true, but what's the hell? That's true. That's true. But what's the alternative? The alternative is like, here's the best thing about those crazy people.
Starting point is 00:07:51 You and I can talk about those crazy people. Look at these crazy bitches. And then people can listen to us talk about them and they go, yeah, these people are crazy. I kind of thought
Starting point is 00:07:58 the world was flat for a few minutes. Yeah. It's the people on the internet. I'm like, say, man. God. like say man damn what are you talking about like then there's other people that have some sense but so
Starting point is 00:08:14 you gotta be able to figure it out yourself the problem is most people don't think and rightly so don't think that most people can figure it out by themselves a large percentage of our population that's easily swayed that's why cults work oh you know I always wonder like like like when people say they selling dope I'm like like for real like it's passe like what a cult is like I'll be thinking at his foot like what when why would I join the cult when it's never been proven to be a good thing?
Starting point is 00:08:46 Like, it's like, show me all the good, successful cults. It's just like, man, all I got to do is see one bad cult and I'm like, you know, I don't want to go. Well, if you want to expand that. That's crazy. Religion. Religion is successful cults because they someone's listen if if there is let's just imagine just for the sake of this conversation that there is a religious scripture that is 100 translated directly from god well if
Starting point is 00:09:20 that's true if there's one that means all the other ones are wrong and all the other ones are cults. See, the thing is this. People don't know where things tie in together. Now, you have some side stories, some people who just created some side things for their own benefit. Like the Mormons. It's like a longevity of, hey, this is all the same line of things. It transcends to the next generation.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Then it's these things that once the prophecy stopped at some point and then it's like people can claim themselves to be prophets with none of the other attachment. All the other prophets got the same thing.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Some spoke to them at night. And they have some power at that particular time. It's like, these people can just say, hey, I'm a prophet. Well, who spoke to you? I don't know. There's a voice coming through the wall. Maybe you live in theater apartments. I don't know. And then they voice coming through the wall. Maybe you live in theater apartments. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And then they can just, what is your power? Who are the people that you're supposed to have? And it's no power. All you had to do is be charismatic. But that's not the, in prophecy, that's not the criteria. It's like, hey, I'm looking for somebody cancer. That's not what God's doing. That's not the job.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Right, that's not the job. But with this society, it's the job. But don't you think it's always been like that? No, I think they didn't even want to do it. Noah didn't want to build no ark. He was doing something else. See, the thing about Noah and the ark, though, if you go back to that, that story is very similar to a story that's in the epic of Gilgamesh.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And most likely what that story is about, the great flood seems to very much be real. Very much be real. And there's a lot of physical evidence. And there's a gentleman named Randall Carlson who's been on my pod. Have you ever seen any of those episodes? No. He's been on my podcast many times. He's an expert in asteroid collisions. And this time in history where after this time, there's all these stories of floods, it aligns directly with this thing called the Younger dryas and the younger dryas impact theory the younger dryas at a time period around 11,800 years ago where they think the earth got hit by comments and they think civilization got basically wiped out and it makes sense
Starting point is 00:11:57 Because it first of all makes sense physically So sorry if people have heard this before I beat this fucking horse to death But there's a lot of evidence when they do core samples on the earth at that time period there's a high level of iridium which is very rare on earth but very common in space and there's also nano diamonds which which occur when there's an impact when something hits and this is all over the world I 100% believe in this but every time I hear nano diamonds what do you think what do you think when you hear nano diamonds
Starting point is 00:12:29 it's like you're selling jewelry in the middle of the mall hey buddy these aren't diamonds these are nano diamonds these are nano diamonds they different but yes
Starting point is 00:12:38 I believe that the earth has been hit by comets we in the space how can you not there's evidence. There's evidence. There's tons of evidence.
Starting point is 00:12:46 There's tons of evidence. They found, was it Greenland or Iceland, that massive impact that they found? The Earth's been hit so many times, man. It wasn't just the Yucatan one that killed the dinosaurs. It's been many, many, many, many, many, many, many times it's been hit. many, many, many, many, many, many, many times it's been hit. And in fact, this comet shower that we go through every year, 31 kilometer, 19 mile wide meteorite crater discovered under a kilometer of Greenland ice
Starting point is 00:13:13 had long puzzled scientists. The Hawatha crater was exceptionally well preserved despite glacier ice being incredibly effective at erosion. That's interesting. Damn, that's big. 19 miles, is that what it said? Yeah, there's a ton of those, man. They're all over the world.
Starting point is 00:13:32 There's a big one that's outside of Australia that they found. Giant craters where it just, it totally makes sense. It totally makes sense. So this guy, along with this guy named Graham Hancock, who's also been on the podcast many times a good friend of mine he has a documentary called uh ancient catastrophe is that it it's not apocalypse right ancient apocalypse i always fuck those up ancient apocalypse that's on uh netflix it's amazing and it's all talking about like these insane structures that people built in africa in asia all over the world in turkey that is insane structures that people built in Africa, in Asia, all over the world, in Turkey. These insane structures that predate modern civilization.
Starting point is 00:14:12 These are like 5,000 years before we think Mesopotamia emerged. Huge stone columns, huge structures that they know for sure were 11,000 years old. The show's amazing. It's an amazing show. I think I've watched this. It's really good. And it's, you know, he only goes, he only touches the surface because there's so many of these all over the world.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And Egypt is the best example. The best example. Egypt is a fantastic example because there's stuff that's under the sand that's even older than the massive stuff that's above the sand that's even older than the massive stuff that's above the stand and the stuff under the sand that they find when they dig deeper it's a totally different style of building this is what the x-clan used to rap about yeah yeah and poor righteous teachers that whole brand new vian this is the this is the pyramids and building of the stones and Egypt, the
Starting point is 00:15:08 whole Egyptian culture, Timbuktu, the whole thing. Yeah. Been around for a long time. That's the wild shit. The wild shit is that if it wasn't for those stones, if everybody lived like we live today in glass houses and shit, there'd be nothing left. There'd be nothing. What would you find a regular
Starting point is 00:15:24 house made out of wooden glass? What the fuck is going to be there in 10 000 years zero zero there'd be nothing left but you'd find nails oh look i found a nail what would you find you'd find a few things but most of it would be consumed by the earth yeah most of it but those guys they figured out they figured out something that no, they bullshit that they could figure out how to do that today. They don't know how to do that today. Well somebody just came up with the whole this building with wood.
Starting point is 00:15:51 But it was probably stone, like in Haiti they build with stone, they still build with, Jamaica they still build with stone, with the whole house made out of cement. Most places do that, it has, you know, tropical plants. Well they have hurricanes. Yeah, they have hurricanes yeah they have hurricanes their houses have to be sturdy as fuck so i don't know what was going on in egypt at that time when they
Starting point is 00:16:10 was building like that i think they were beyond advanced i think we are graham hancock has this amazing quote he said that human beings are a species with amnesia. Oh, yes, for sure. For sure. Oh, for sure. And I think the way we've gone today technologically with, like, phones and microphones and video cameras and shit, like, we've gone into an electronic technology. I think they went into another technology that was different, a different path, but way more powerful. They were able to move stones out of the mountains and move them 500 miles. They don't have any fucking idea how they did it. The necessity, you know, we're figuring out things from necessity.
Starting point is 00:16:52 That, but I think thousands of years of thinking. I think, you know, when we think about the Industrial Revolution and we think about the way the world was just 2,000 years ago to now, I think those people were recovering. I world was just 2,000 years ago to now, I think those people were recovering. I think those people 2,000 years ago were recovering from shit that happened thousands of years before that where people were just knocked back into barbarism,
Starting point is 00:17:15 just survival of the fittest, just wild shit because there was nothing left. We live in a Mad Max apocalypse, even worse. Nuclear winter. When those things hit into the ground, the massive floods come. It also kicks up dust in the atmosphere. Nothing grows. People are probably cannibalizing each other. It was probably horrific.
Starting point is 00:17:34 You ever read the book The Ice Age and Inheritance? No. This is where it talks about people, how they went into the ice age and then they had to start cannibalizing each other because there was nothing growing in all of these other things like wow that's that's which do you think we survive that now like that's what is that i think you and me might be we might survive i know a lot of people are gonna get eaten some people keep it together and some people can't you know yeah it's gonna it's gonna be hard and it's not gonna be fun and life might not be worth living in comparison
Starting point is 00:18:11 in comparison so that's the thing like if you were if you lived on the great plains in the 1800s and you're a native american that was your whole life that's all you knew you knew how to hunt buffalo you know how to make teepees you know to live off the land that's all you knew if you took some fucking person from the east side of manhattan some person that works some cushy office job and he said jerome this is your new life you're gonna live on the plains and you're gonna make your own arrows and you're gonna go fucking run around and try to shoot them into buffalo and there's no doctors. So is this what Naked and Afraid is about? Are they getting ready for the apocalypse? No, they're just exploiting dummies.
Starting point is 00:18:54 They're just having fun with people's dicks. Blurring them on the TV. It's crazy. That show's crazy. That show's crazy. It's so dumb. Naked and Afraid XL, they got like 13 people up yeah meet up in the former tribe yeah they could do something like that people would go they would go evil real quick
Starting point is 00:19:13 if there was competing tribes people would go evil real quick i think it's gonna if it if it If it jumps, no, okay. Well, during Katrina, it was survival of the fittest. Yes. During this flood in Houston, it was survival of the fittest. Yes. It's been some times where people have shown their colors. Yes. In small pockets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Like my friend, he used to brag about having this maserati and when the flood happened his maserati was floating down the street and i was in my truck i'm like hey you want me to come pick you and your maserati up because you you're in a bad position my boy because in texas you need a truck you know and, and it was survival. He couldn't move nowhere. So he needed help. Yeah. When the freeze came out here, I was having a time of my life. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:20:12 When it was snow everywhere and ice on the streets. Because I have a 1995 Toyota Land Cruiser that I had built like an apocalypse vehicle. It's lifted. It's got off-road tires. It's got steel bumpers. It's got a winch. It's lifted. It's got off-road tires. It's got steel bumpers. It's got a winch. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:29 So, yeah, you was having a good time. Big-ass gas tank. Huge gas tank. You was having a good time. I was having a great time. Because that car's meant for that. It was like my golden retriever when he sees the snow. When he sees the snow, he's like, woo!
Starting point is 00:20:41 He rolls around on his back. It's like he's having a party. It's the best thing he's ever seen. That's what it's like when my truck saw that snow my truck was like yee-haw everybody else is like in corvettes they're sliding into oncoming traffic that's what happens when you have one of them little low built cars or sports car and you don't have a off-road vehicle something that can really that's sturdy that can move things like i have a truck and this yeah my truck is built for that if you're only gonna have one vehicle in texas a truck is the way to go oh yeah it really is it just in case just in case
Starting point is 00:21:17 it's the sign of the most pampered society that people have cars that you can't even fit luggage in and they're just fast and they, you have a race car, sir. Why are you driving around town in a fucking race car?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Where are you going? Hey, man, nothing like getting out of a truck in a tuxedo. Oh, yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:21:41 With boots on. That's what I see guys, I'm like, man, that's crazy. But, man, a truck is the way to go. People don't want to think about things going sideways, but they have all throughout history. All throughout history there's been natural disasters.
Starting point is 00:21:55 There's been wars. There's been crazy shit all throughout history. So why don't people want to think about that? Because we like to think about what's in front of us right now. The human mind is set up essentially for survival. Right. It's it's and we have the exact same brains as people that live 10,000 years ago. So the people who live 10,000 years ago, if they in fact were hunter and gatherers and they probably were hunter and gatherers because the people before them were far more advanced and they were like rebooting society. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:22:23 before them were far more advanced and they were like rebooting society. That's what I think. But those people, that life that they lived was all about get some fucking food, find out what the dangers are around you right now in terms of your enemies and predators and get some fucking food and feed your family and try to stay alive. That's all anybody wanted. They just wanted to stay alive. So we have that in our head and shit like climate change and UFOs, it's like, what am I going to do with that? Shit like, what if the power goes off?
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah, but the power's on now. Shut the fuck up. I got to deal with now. I got to deal with right now. We're designed for the now. I don't think like that. I think long term. Your guys experienced some very difficult moments in your life.
Starting point is 00:23:06 That's what it is. You've experienced a lot of adversity. I guess that's the reason. But I'm thinking, I'm always thinking long term. I always got to, you know, like I'm Jason Bourne. Like I'm on the move. Come on, pass for the cash. Yeah, I'm not, I can't live for the now.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I used to be like that. And that was, that was too fast. Mm. Way too fast. Well, that's a young man's game. Young man's game is the now. You know,
Starting point is 00:23:39 talk to a 19-year-old kid. They ain't talking about fucking climate change. Oh, I wish somebody would have told me in 19, hey, listen, climate change oh i wish somebody would have told me in 19 hey listen climate change yeah maybe my tomatoes would be able to survive i i think you know with having a a healthy love for the elderly because i i would you know prefer to be one one day you know i would like to set things up for those people that's doing
Starting point is 00:24:06 it now for when I get there. I don't want to wait and then get there and be struggling. I'm 65 and I don't understand what's going on because comics, most comics don't have a retirement plan. Most comics don't even have a monthly plan. Comics are the wildest
Starting point is 00:24:21 fucking people I know. They're the wildest people I know they spend all their money and it was crazy that's very true that is very true I can't even think of all the comics because I'm a planner
Starting point is 00:24:40 how many comics have come to me because they know I'm a planner and they just went out and did some wild shit. I'm just, hey, man, I'm living in L.A. now. What? I just saw you Tuesday. Yeah, I know. Where you living at?
Starting point is 00:24:55 I don't know. I'm just out here. What the hell are you talking about? And then a month later, hey, man I'm calling you from somebody else's phone. You think you can send me $300 so I can get a ticket to come home? Oh, how am I gonna get it to you? Hey man, you gonna have to wire it to this and that.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Some comics think that if they go to a spot, things would be different. You know? My wife and I lived in Colorado once for a little while, and we lived in like a log house on the top of a mountain. And my wife had this idea that when she got in that log house, she'd start making bread. Joe, you wild, man.
Starting point is 00:25:41 You just moved to a log house. Yeah, I did. The only thing that fucked me over was she got pregnant, and when women are pregnant at very high altitude, this is at 8,000, I think 8,800 feet. It's very high. It's real rough on them, real bad. It's like the flu every day.
Starting point is 00:25:57 And we went back to L.A., and when we went back to L.A. for like a week or two, she was fine. And then we went back to Colorado, kicked right back in. I was like, oh, no no and then I read that Colorado specifically Denver has a very high rate of unusually high rate of premature births because they did the attribute to the high altitude is rough it's rough on women so
Starting point is 00:26:18 we had to get out of there if it was for me it was just me by myself I'd still be up there I would have never started a podcast I still be up there living in the woods make it I love it I love a podcast. I'd still be up there living in the woods. I loved it. I loved it. I love that Land Cruiser. I'd just be like sitting there chilling. Man, because that's the life that I'm going towards.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I love it. Just being somewhere, being able to farm and grow my own vegetables. Yes. Go outside and have my own pigs and goats and things of that nature. Yeah, that's very satisfying. There's something very satisfying just even about and things of that nature yeah that's very satisfying there's something very satisfying just even about the idea that that's very satisfying not having to be some I think that's the I'm I'm gonna slow down in 2025 I have a plan knockout domino effect three and four um and then kind of relax for a while because i don't think people know this about comics you probably experienced it i'm my body is on some type of clock where i have to be somewhere even when i don't which is troublesome to me like I've gotten up and
Starting point is 00:27:25 packed all my things up and didn't realize that I was already where I'm supposed to be. Because my body is like, my mind basically is, you're supposed to be somewhere. If I go on vacation, it has to be for two weeks because the first
Starting point is 00:27:42 week, it's crazy. My mind is set on this clock of you got a performance you got to be somewhere you got this to do you had it and i don't i don't like that feeling i got out of that i got that took it took me a long time to get out of that but i got out of that where i can enjoy vacation i can just chill i got out of that where i could just sit in my backyard sometimes just sit down have a have a cocktail and just relax that's what i want to do just be able to just sit and have nothing to do yeah yeah i think there's a there's real pleasure in that if you earn that and you definitely have
Starting point is 00:28:20 earned that there's real pleasure in that but people like you and people like me that are constantly on the road and constantly working on this and working on that, it's like you're on this momentum. And it's hard to hit the brakes going down the hill. Jesus fucking Christ. Like Flintstone brakes. You know, it's hard. Yeah, it is. It's hard to slow down. And you got to get to a place where you feel like or have a plan to get to a place where, okay, this is it for
Starting point is 00:28:45 a while. And then detox for that month. A month of not doing shows is horrible. It's weird. It's horrible. You get addicted to it, right?
Starting point is 00:29:01 It took me a while to get it. It took me about two months to really get into the pandemic pandemic but once i got into it i didn't want to come out of it i was like man i'm i'm cool man i can be with my family every day i'm growing my vegetables looking good i'm i'm having a good time i don't have to be anywhere i just go to the front and pick up my camera. Hey, what's happening? And talk for a minute and then be done. It was beautiful. It was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:29:33 So why'd you go back? The addiction of being a performer. Killing. Addicted to having to finish the story yeah you know domino effect you know was in my mind and domino effect 2 was in my mind so i was like man i gotta get back to to work i think they were tired of me they like hey he's here he's been here too long maybe maybe i i was feeling cool and they was nah, he needs to go work somewhere. He's doing everything.
Starting point is 00:30:08 He's painting and building. I was building something every week. It was great. Well, that's why it always drives me crazy when people say they get bored. Like, how are you bored? I get bored. There's so much to do. You just got to find the thing.
Starting point is 00:30:24 And if it's not, if you don't have anything to do, just go experience something. Yeah. Go check something out. Get moving. Don't stay home. Don't just stay put. That's why you're bored. There's nothing coming at you.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Go somewhere. Stay put. I haven't heard that in a long time. My grandmother, she would say that because back then you couldn't go into couldn't take children to liquor stores and my girl
Starting point is 00:30:50 would get out the car she'd leave us in the car hey hey stay put be right my girl told me be right here when she get back
Starting point is 00:30:57 or she gonna beat our ass like like what like how did that even come into the conversation come into the conversation but we was right then when she got back.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah. We stood put. Stay put. Yeah, staying around and being bored. I mean, of course that's what's going to happen. People wonder why they're depressed. I mean, there's a lot of reasons why people are depressed. But some people are depressed just because they're not doing anything.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Oh, man. You just fucking fill with anxiety and just nothing. You're just, just like alone just trying to think of something to do bored out of your fucking mind which is crazy how you can't think of nothing to do when it's all outside like you can just you can well i can walk out because i'm from that era but we used to play outside yeah so if i go outside, I'm going to find something to do. If I find another person, we're going to find something to do. If we find another person, oh, no, this is a football game. All we need is three people and a ball,
Starting point is 00:31:55 and we're throwing this ball up in there. It's a hot ball. We're going to do something. Something's happening. Do you remember children's playgrounds, how fucking dangerous they were? With those metal contraptions, those houses you would climb inside of? You thought that was dangerous?
Starting point is 00:32:11 Do they have those today? I think they do, but they made out of rope now, and it's really dangerous. Oh. It's some little corded rope. You tear your hand up. I prefer the balls. I grew up with the balls. You could swing from them. That was my I prefer the balls. I grew up with the balls. You could swing from them.
Starting point is 00:32:26 That was my thing, the balls. Even the spinning. Oh, man. I think I know people who dislocated their shoulder on the spinning thing. Some big grown kid would come and spin all the kids. If you didn't hold on and they'd keep spinning it, and then you'd just let go because your head, you can't hold it no more.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Ah, those are the days of concussions, good concussions. Yeah, well you learned, you definitely learned what hurts. Oh, you definitely learned what hurt.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Yeah. Like you never let the big kids spin your head ever again. Those little big kids are mean. It was crazy. you six, this kid, hey man,
Starting point is 00:33:04 you know you're 13, right? Like, why are you even over here? Especially boys. Teenage boys are the most fucking dangerous animals on the planet. Man, do you understand? I lived in some apartments where these guys, they were old. They was high teens. And when you went to go check check the mail because the mailbox was
Starting point is 00:33:25 by the pool they would try to throw you in the pool and you go take the million mother say hey don't bring my damn bail back here wet and you have to sneak to the mailbox and open the mailbox so quietly get the mail and you hope didn't see you because if anybody saw you they're gonna say hey you hit the mailbox and now you gotta run now you gotta run they're gonna throw you i remember once i got thrown in and i tried to hold the bell up i hate the performance man i hate them teenage kids they're fucking dangerous because they have man strength and they just got it they just got it it's like lottery winners they're like lottery winners they start spending all their money. Lottery winners, they go broke quick because they're like, they never had this before, and all of a sudden they have it.
Starting point is 00:34:30 When you're 13 and all of a sudden you kind of have a man body, and you're 14 and you're strong as shit and little kids, you could just yell at them and tell them what to do and make them do shit and smack them around. The problem is this when you do that and then one of the kids that you hurt have uncles that's like close to your age like you yeah you 14 15 and his uncle is 19 and he don't care nothing about nothing and he's like yo hey man you heard my you heard my little cousin and then yeah and he definitely he got a little more skill he got a
Starting point is 00:35:16 little more attack to his yeah newfound male strength yeah they know how to use it. A 19-year-old is very different. You get 19 and 20, and, you know, those are men. I was different. I was a pretty good fighter at 19. I started fighting maybe around 10. You get some good ones. I remember when I knew the difference between being 13 and being 19. When my cousin got into a fight with these guys, and this guy was thick. All this was like really, he was a man. And he pushed me just in the stomach.
Starting point is 00:36:04 He just pushed me. He wasn stomach. He just pushed me. He wasn't even trying to fight me. He was, everybody get back. And he pushed me and knocked all the air out of me. I was like, man, what is happening? And I slowly started going to the ground. Like, if he would have actually punched me, like if he was trying to, oh, yeah, he would have wiped me out.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Yeah. Because body shots are something different. That's a different shot. Oh, yeah. People think that a body shot don't look as pretty as a shot to the head, but it's just as devastating, if not worse. Oh, yeah. Like that Ryan Garcia one where Javante Davis caught him with that left hook to the body.
Starting point is 00:36:44 People were saying that he quit. No. He never been hitting the liver. Oscar De La Hoya quit the same way with Bernard Hopkins. With the same thing. Same body shot. Same body shot. And he tried to take a step out that corner and not the front of his foot even moved.
Starting point is 00:37:01 He just went down. He was like, man, this this is it and if you get kicked to the body oh my god oh my god a kick to the body is so goddamn devastating especially a spinning back kick you could literally pick someone up in the air it's like they get hit by a car any kick yeah to that oh you want to see me when i was 19. show me that show that video of me knocking that dude out when i was 19. this is from a tight window tournament i hit this kid with a spinning back kick to the body so you can see how hard man i'm 150 pounds on 155 pounds 155 pounds spinning around coming at you full force that's not that's what i'm saying i'm saying even though i was light
Starting point is 00:37:43 like fairly light in comparison the the amount of power that you can generate with your legs and what your ribs are me and my daughter were doing this little art project and we're uh drawing zombie this this zombie thing we're making this painting together and while we're doing this we took a photo uh from the internet of an actual rib cage so we could do it right and draw it correctly. And I'm looking at it, I'm like, look at this fucking weird protection of all your squishy organs that are underneath there. I mean, when you really think about it, these little skinny-ass bones are the only thing
Starting point is 00:38:19 that's protecting your soft lungs and your liver. Like, this is me in the blue this is me when i was 19. that dude was done you get kicked in the body like that you just there's no volume on this. But you get kicked in the body like that, it's the worst feeling in the world. Everything shuts down. You can't move. You can't move.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Everything just goes. It's an electrocute. Electrocution goes through your body. Electric power, just the thump. Just the compression of your organs. Just your whole body going into shock. Your whole spinal column getting jolted. Your legs don't work anymore. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Your legs don't work. They just feel like... They just stop working. They're just nothing. You could tell them whatever the fuck you want. They're not listening. You're trying to send shock waves from your brain to your legs. And then your legs are like, man, if you don't get the fuck out of here I'm going down the most shocking to me was when I would get hit on the chin
Starting point is 00:39:33 Because one time I got dropped I got hit on the chin with a left hook and my legs just went like this But they just shut off like it wasn't like I got hurt like oh my god. I'm hurt. I'm going down They just went shut off The legs just shut off. And I was like, Jesus Christ, what the fuck was that? They just stopped working. It's like my whole system got short-circuited. They just go, boink. What a stupid design.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Just the jaw. The jaw is really the turning of the. Sometimes not, though, because sometimes a straight shot just on the tip of the that's sometimes not though because sometimes a straight shot just on the tip of the jaw knocks people out it's the whole
Starting point is 00:40:10 compression of the head compression of the head going back I think there's something else going on too specifically with the jaw because you could spin someone's head around
Starting point is 00:40:19 in other ways like on the cheek and it doesn't seem to have the same effect the jaw does jaw's I think the nerves behind the jaw because let me tell you was that whatever's going on in the jaw i had a crown put in and in the heat the guy went too deep when he we did a root canal nobody when he tried to um numb me up to put it in so he damaged the nerve
Starting point is 00:40:48 that's in the lining of the jaw and it took like two months for that shit to heal really and it was excruciating like it was excruciating nerves are rough Nerves take a long time. It was excruciating. Yeah. It was like, and then I had to still perform, and I was doing meet and greets, and I was having the smiles. And this crown here, oh, my goodness. So did it make your face paralyzed? It was. I was down my, I had to get all type of massages down because it of my jaw, they had to adjust it maybe four times. It was terrible.
Starting point is 00:41:30 It was terrible. It was terrible. A lot of people get that. What is that called? What's that disease when half your face goes? Bell's palsy. Bell's palsy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I know a couple guys with that. Half your face just starts working. I know a couple guys who have. Half your face just starts working. I know a couple guys with a mad bell problem. Yeah. You don't realize how lucky you are to be healthy until you're not. You got to take advantage of health. God, it's the most important thing, and that's another thing. People, they put all this effort into life, and they don't put effort into that.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Into health, which is crazy. It's crazy and then don't don't even try to look at the things that can make you more healthy like it the amount of the amount of research that people do they rather scroll on their phone than just look up something that can be helpful to them something personally yeah yeah which good for you. Yeah. Which is weird. It's the same thing. I think people don't think about the future that much.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I mean, they do a little bit, kind of abstract. I hate that whole you gotta die from something. Well, you ain't gotta die fucking miserable. You ain't gotta die. It's a lot of stuff
Starting point is 00:42:38 that you don't have to die of. Yeah. Yeah. That's... You know, there's more people dying today because they eat too much than starving to death for the first time in history. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You know, Texas is a fast state. Good food. Terry Black's Barbecue. What's up? Food here is fantastic. You know, people die from eating too much what's up Terrence Blackford I definitely eat too much
Starting point is 00:43:11 when I'm there we recreationally eat yes we do we go just let me go see what this is about in Texas we are the kings and queens of let me just go check something out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And going there like, oh, man, they got a new donut place. Let's go see what they talking about. Yeah. Like, why? Because we have the currency. We have the. Got a nice surplus. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Yeah. See, we have the. Got a nice surplus. Oh, man. Yeah. It's hard to go on the road once you. Texas is my home. It's where I grew up, Houston especially.
Starting point is 00:43:55 We have great food. So then you go on the road to other places, and then they, I'm going to take you to the best barbecue place. I'm going to take you to the best. And then you get there, you're like. You're spoiled. Damn. There's some places that have good barbecue.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Apparently Kansas City has good barbecue. No, not really. No? It's a different thing, right? Not like here. No. Do you know where it came from?
Starting point is 00:44:18 L.A. has the worst Mexican food of all times to me. Really? Yes, the worst. Do you like Tex-Mex me. Really? Yes, the worst. Do you like Tex-Mex or regular Mexican? Well, regular Mexican. I lived in a Mexican neighborhood in Houston,
Starting point is 00:44:32 and they had the best food. So I'm like, I don't know. It must be different. They're Aztecas. I don't know. They're different Mexicans. There's some spots in California. You just got to go to the spots where the Mexicans go.
Starting point is 00:44:44 That's what, like, when I'm in LA it's some food I'm like this is y'all bed I used to go this place in the valley called the big burrito they got like Mexican soap operas plan nobody speaks English they have like lengua queso Diaz and see this everywhere yeah yeah so it's like that's the real shit yes yeah well I'm ago like I learned the spot. Yes, that's where I'm going to go. Like I learned how to make tamales. I learned how to make tamales in this store called Fiesta from this Mexican lady who did not speak English,
Starting point is 00:45:15 and she had her granddaughter translating what she wanted me to write down. And that's how I learned. I got the pots. I grind them. I saved the whole nine. So it's hard for me to go places and say that. I was in, well, I was at St. Louis, Kansas City. They was talking about, oh, they got the best soul food, seafood place.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I was like, okay, cool. I'm going to go. We eating, it was like this, hey man, when you don't season your batter, that's a normal thing everywhere in Houston.
Starting point is 00:45:58 It's too many fish places that I can go to eat. Then when Maryland told me, we got the best blue crab. Man, I live on the Gulf. You don't think we have blue crab here? Like, you know what I'm saying? We got a lot of food here.
Starting point is 00:46:13 A lot of food. Yeah. A lot. It's a lot. It's a good place to eat. Yeah. There's some good spots in the country. There's some great food places in the country.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I'm picky. Yeah. You got a specific kind of food you like to eat? I eat. That's the country. There's some great food places in the country. I'm picky. Yeah. What kind of food do you like to eat? I eat, that's the problem. I eat everything, all cultures,
Starting point is 00:46:31 if your food is good. I live in a place that happens to have all cultures and they have great, if I want any type of African food, I can just go on
Starting point is 00:46:42 Bissonnette in Houston. I can start at any end of Bissonnette and I'm going to find good African food. We have five Chinatowns in Houston. Really? Yeah. There's five Chinatowns? Five Chinatowns.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Isn't Houston the third biggest city in the country? Yes. That's a big country. That's a big city for this country. Man, it's a place. Yeah. It's a place that has all food i got cuban food i got colombian food oh man well houston was the best comedy scene in the world at one point in time in the 80s i still think that houston is the greatest comedy scene we put out a lot of great a lot of great comics we don't have the the clubs anymore, though. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, improv is there. Secret Group is there. They used to have the Laugh Stop. They used to have the Laugh Stop, the Laugh Spot. Yeah. The Laugh Spot went under, too? Yeah, both.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Do you remember Spellbinders? I heard about it. I never went there. Yeah, Spellbinders. We had Spellbinders, and then improv bought out what the Spellbinders i heard about it i never went there yeah spellbind we had spellbinders and then the improv bought out what the spellbinders is so it's the improv and the um secret group and then i think they got a new comic called rise then comedy lounge on the north side yeah well the improv is a great club that's a great club I did that was the first club I did coming back I did that in July I did one weekend and then I got
Starting point is 00:48:09 real high and I got paranoid that I was gonna give people kovat like my guests because I'm so selfish and I want to do the road even though I was getting tested every day I was like what if what if it slips what if I get a false negative so I stopped but I had a great time there speaking of great clubs I stopped in last night at the Mothership that's pretty wild right pretty nice
Starting point is 00:48:30 that's a nice comedy club yeah very comic friendly yeah well
Starting point is 00:48:36 yeah the comic built it yeah yeah and I built it specifically just for us I didn't build it
Starting point is 00:48:44 like a business It was like if I was a my accountant I'd go crazy because I just the whole idea was I just want to break even I just want to build it and make it the most friendly place ever for comedians. So the comedians make plenty of money Everybody's happy every place is packed. It's a beautiful room. That's a beautiful curtain in Thank you the waiter Like yeah, this dope then the name fat fat man and little boy yeah you know that's from but you know why no I don't know why you did it because that's when the UFO started coming
Starting point is 00:49:17 that's when you guys are yeah it's part of UFO folklore that's why when you walk in the middle of the lobbies that giant UFO. That's what that's for. That UFO is a replica of that and that is a replica of the the craft that Bob Lazar, a guy who was a propulsions expert who was a whistleblower who worked at Area S4 and Area 51 in the Nevada desert back engineering alien spacecrafts supposedly. But this is what he described and that's what we put in the the whole club the whole idea of the comedy mothership the whole idea is it's the club's themed on ufos that's the whole idea behind it that's why is this that crazy gateway over the over the stage it looks like a starport yeah when that. When they detonated the bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
Starting point is 00:50:06 that's when UFOs started coming. And all the UFO activity ramped up substantially. Why do you think that is? Because I think they realized we have nukes. Like, these crazy motherfuckers. They just wipe out whole cities with nukes. These fucking assholes. They had to come down and go, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:50:23 What are you doing, man? What the fuck are you doing? That's why you think they came like, hey, they fucking nuclear weapons. What the fuck is going on? Who gave them nuclear weapons? Well, I think they realized we reached a level of technological sophistication that we could kind of kill everybody on Earth. Oh, you think one of them went rogue and taught us? I don't think one of them went rogue and taught us i don't think one of them went rogue and taught us because there's a very like if you go and look at the manhattan project and you go
Starting point is 00:50:52 and look at the history of splitting the atom there's a very clear academic uh paper trail of how they figured this out and all the trials that they did and what they did when they detonated the trinity bomb which by the way was one of the first times they ever discovered those nanodiamonds it's called thing they called trinitite and it's it's like nuclear glass they call it as well and it's what happens when a massive impact hits sand and it turns it into this kind of glass think that because when you come with all the visits, what were they visiting to do? Because I know they all say, like, we caught one or something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:34 You know, if you did, did you try to torture him and get stuff out of him? What would be the thing? But what were the visits if they wasn't teaching something? Because I believe in it. I just don't know what they were visiting to do. Well, the way I describe it is there's a great show on Netflix called Chimp Empire, and Chimp Empire is all about these scientists that are embedded in this chimp tribe, and they've been there for 30 years.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Because these scientists have been there for 30 years, the chimpanzees behave like there's no people there. They can get within 20 feet of these chimpanzees chimpanzees as long as they don't eat in front of them and as long as they never present any sort of danger raise their voices as long as they just stay back the chimps don't pay attention to them at all they just go throughout their life and so these scientists are observing these chimpanzees and then the cinematographers captured all this i think the way we treat chimpanzees is probably and they let them kill each other they do wild shit to each other these chimps they engage in territorial warfare they fight over access to fruit i think they the aliens
Starting point is 00:52:37 would treat us the same way i think they would observe us but not do anything and i think if we did something fucking dangerous like nuclear bombs then they would go whoa okay because i think every if if alien societies do exist an intelligent life is out there in the universe i think what happens is they keep getting more and more and more and more sophisticated and in the beginning they they they engage in tribal warfare and as they become more and more sophisticated their technology becomes far too dangerous to keep doing that same shit. And that's when they observe them. Because it's this perilous tipping point where we could completely wipe out life on Earth.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Or we can evolve and get to the next stage of existence where we could coexist harmoniously all in throughout the universe and join some global you know some rather universal group of beings it's possible but the only way that's possible is if we don't nuke ourselves so with the chimpanzees they observe it they the sciences are there they observe them yeah and they there, they observing them. Yeah. And they see them, but they don't pay attention. See, the problem with us,
Starting point is 00:53:49 that we scared, if we see an alien, I'm not going to not pay attention. Of course. I'm going to, ha, who the fuck, because it's like,
Starting point is 00:54:00 being in black, like, it got to look normal. I believe that it's, it's definitely, other life forms, definitely other civilizations is happening that we just not ready for. I don't think we ready. I don't think.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I mind. We got to be groomed. Do you think that there's like all these UFO sightings and the government talking about UFOs and these most recent, this whistleblower that came out and said there's a crash retrieval program and we have crashed Vehicles and they've recovered alien bodies you believe and I believe but it's the old man like hell now I'm not messing with it. Yeah, and because he not ready for The difference let me he is so he to just now get used to seeing black people.
Starting point is 00:54:47 He's ready for shit else. He's like, hey, man, what else, man? God damn. He got like six eyes, man. What is this shit? He's not ready. He's not ready, man. I wonder if that's what they're doing not ready, man. I wonder if that's
Starting point is 00:55:05 what they're doing by these sightings. I wonder if it's like a trickle effect. Like, give us a little bit. Like with the Jetsons. We still don't believe in the Jetsons.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And we, like, nobody, so, they were already pulling people up on big screens talking to each other
Starting point is 00:55:22 and shit on the Jetsons. Yeah. And my mother was watching the Jetsons. Who thought that the Jetsons. Yeah. And my mother was watching the Jetsons. Who thought that the Jetsons, so when it happened,
Starting point is 00:55:30 you just, you just went and got it. Ah, it's $800. You just got excited about having it instead of, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:55:38 Now you, because it's the Jetsons. It's, it's, you in this time frame. It has to be a grooming. It's like, okay, let's see how they act with E.T. Okay, you in this time frame it has to be a grooming it's like okay
Starting point is 00:55:45 let's see how they act with E.T. okay they seem to love that movie um shit let's throw Alf out there let's see if they ready for a furry one Alf? I forgot about Alf then it's like hey maybe the Muppets
Starting point is 00:56:02 maybe the Muppets big ass bird just rolling around and talking, snuggling. It's some then we go, we advance up to, what was that? The Man from Mars and then the Great Gazoo. And then now we up to Men in Black. And this shit is all right. You know, because, you know, the man, it's a trickle. I've got to keep feeding it to him.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And then all of a sudden, you just see somebody just come down the spaceship at McDonald's. I'm like, hey, what's up, y'all? Y'all good? Let me get two of these Big Macs. We love you. It's earth food. And then you like, and then you as earth food and then and you like and then you saw that yeah I saw that shit man we is there and now you get a
Starting point is 00:56:52 cut you got to get accustomed to it what year was the Jetson supposed to be I just looked I just made 1962 and let me get years in the hundred years in future okay 2062. Wow. And here's some of the stuff they had. They had flying cars. They'll never get us that. Hell yeah. They'll never get us that.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Robotic dogs. Yeah. People drunk flying. Hell nah. They had robotic vacuums, video calls, tablet computers, robotic house help. They had tablets? Yes. I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:57:23 They worked for Spicey Spockets. Flying cars, smart watches. They had smart watches. Drones, holograms. 3D printed food. Oh yeah, that's right. They had a pill cam. When you swallow it, it sees your body. Oh, look at George.
Starting point is 00:57:40 He knows that's going up his ass. Flash screen TV. Flash screen TV. Flat screen TV. Jetpacks. Yeah. There's a few other articles that do the same thing. The jetpacks they have now, it's that one dude that's got wings on his jetpack
Starting point is 00:57:58 and they've caught him flying around buildings and shit. I don't think they last long I think you can only stay up there for a few minutes but you can fucking fly till you run out of gas what is this one was ten years ago what's the most recent what can they do now I've seen that guy I think in it might be Dubai Jetwing suit yeah that's the best one there is right now
Starting point is 00:58:27 that's it that's it what the hell is that is fucking wild the jetwing what type of is there a video of these guys using this
Starting point is 00:58:36 I figured it would be on their website on their Instagram you definitely gotta have on a fireproof pajama set look at that look at this motherfucker
Starting point is 00:58:43 oh yeah look at him he's flying around buildings. That shit crazy. Like, what are the odds of those things failing? I mean, that's not like a Toyota Corolla. Those things aren't reliable. That's fucking emerging technology.
Starting point is 00:58:58 You're going to be risking your life flying over highways? That's wild. Hell no. But if that happens in the future the problem is people are just going to be doing it
Starting point is 00:59:07 just like you see people on the highway riding wheelies just flying down the highway just wild shit wild shit they're going to be
Starting point is 00:59:14 doing that in the air slamming into houses that's why they're not going to give you flying cars I'm really not messing with this car just get in
Starting point is 00:59:22 and just let the car drive for you I'm not trusting it like that. Yeah, I don't trust it. I have it. I don't trust it. You have it? Yeah, I have a Tesla.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Then you just get in and just- I can. And just- And say, hey, take me to- You enter in your address that you want to go to, press auto-navigate. Yeah. And it take off by itself. Stop some red lights.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Woo! No. Nah. You're supposed to keep your hand on the wheel, though. You're supposed to keep your hand on the wheel though you're supposed to keep your hand on the wheel yeah just in case man i'll be seeing people you know laid back you know like no i can't i can't do it so that's a driverless taxi i've seen them around austin i just i've seen them too not do they just drive real slow man i'm not i'm not checking for a fam i'm not i'm not doing it yeah that's the future no we're looking at that we're saying i i think people
Starting point is 01:00:11 don't realize that they get they trying to get rid of you yeah with this like like i don't do self-checkout because it doesn't make sense to me like why am i helping them get you out of here and i know i want to talk to a person if something's go wrong i don't do self-checkout and plus i don't come nowhere to work i just got off work why would i come in here to work well you're from a different generation and the generation of kids that are coming up today do you know how many of them uber they don't even have cars lazy a lot of people uber now they just take lifts and okay okay what okay so this generation uber then the next generation uber who knows how to drive the car in the third generation? Well, then you're going to be having these things.
Starting point is 01:00:50 There's going to be a generation, whether it's our grandchildren or their grandchildren, that never drives. No one drives their own car. Everybody has an automated vehicle. That's like writing. They take writing. Kids don't learn in school how to write. They don't learn cursive. And they don't learn cursive. They don't learn cursive.
Starting point is 01:01:05 That's crazy to me. That's insane. That's insane. That's insane. They're all just typing on their phones and typing on their computer. That don't mean get rid of writing. That's crazy. They took the clock out of the school because people have digital.
Starting point is 01:01:20 But you still want them to be able to tell. You know, America is not the world like you know you're gonna probably go somewhere else in the world and you're gonna have to write something like that's crazy and you see a clock and you're like what the fuck is that saying you're used to digital
Starting point is 01:01:37 and then when you used to get offended when people said stupid Americans now you're like I understand what do you mean this country is crazy man well I think there's some Americans stupid Americans. Now you like, I understand. What do you mean? It's crazy, man. Well, I think there's some Americans that go abroad, they just act like fucking assholes. You know, they think they're allowed to
Starting point is 01:01:53 because they're in another country. They ruin it for everybody else. No, I think locked up abroad has changed that whole ideology. Oh, yeah. Locked up abroad has changed. Oh, I go anywhere and do whatever I want to do. Like, you've seen the show Locked Up Abroad? No.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Watch a couple episodes. Yeah. Watch a couple episodes and then go over to Yugoslavia and see how you feel about that, man. And then when people get taken. Yeah. Like, man, I don't go anywhere and don't check in with the embassy. Really?
Starting point is 01:02:26 I need to know. I need somebody to know where I'm at. So when you go to a country to work, you check in with the embassy? Yeah. Hey, I need to know where y'all at and what's the rule. Yeah, I need to know because I'm not going somewhere and don't know where the embassy is. Why is Jason born? At least you can run to the embassy and you're safe
Starting point is 01:02:45 at least in that but if i go to dallas i live in houston i go to dallas i'm checking in with the embassy i'm not i need somebody i know i'm at man like i'm just not i'm just not rocking with um being in this world without somebody knowing my whereabouts. Even though I'm a grown man, I'm going to say something to somebody. Hey, I'm going to roll over here. I need a witness or an alibi. I need something. I don't believe in being in the world by yourself.
Starting point is 01:03:20 I just don't. That's a good move. The world is definitely not America either. Yeah. That's the thing. It's not. Like, look what happened to Brittany Griner. That would not happen in America.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Russians come to America and they do all kinds of, like, Russians fight in the UFC almost every weekend. And no one cares. No one gets mad at them. No one screams at them. No one throws things at them. They go out there. People cheer when they win. There's a ton of Russian fighters that are in the UFC
Starting point is 01:03:50 Me and a friend of mine was talking another comic Gerard G and We was talking said man. This is this country is crazy that We remember when Floyd May well default Manny Pacquiao. Yes. In the same country where they, I'm talking about holding up the flag and the United States all the way, the Senate there.
Starting point is 01:04:16 We was talking. He said, man, this was the first time he was at a fight party, a white fight party. And this lady said, I hope he kicks the shit out of Floyd. He said, what? He said, you couldn't find one Filipino in the world that was going for Floyd Mayweather. Not one. But you could find a bunch of Americans. Somebody who was born and raised right in Michigan.
Starting point is 01:04:41 You could find a bunch of Americans who was wanting the Filipino to beat him. That's true. That's a very good point Filipinos are very proud very national people they love Manny Pacquiao yes my son my son is a very gentle soul and Manny Pacquiao was one of the ones I showed him cuz he I don't know it to be a my 12 year old he doesn't really want to beat you up like I'm like but I saw you don't have to hit people but damn you know I'm just I don't I said let me show you one of the most gentle people in the world but until he gets in that ring I know and I showed him Manny Pacquiao and Mike Tyson I I was like, look, these are gentle people.
Starting point is 01:05:27 And then they get in the ring and another button happens. That's how you're going to have to be. Yeah. Did you see the Mayweather-Gotti thing yesterday? No, I didn't. So John Gotti, the mobster, his grandson. The brawl. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:45 So what happened was this is the end of the fight. But see if you could find what caused it. I was just reading it. Because there's a video that shows the end of the fight. And in the end of the fight, what happened was if you just Google, just tweet, like put Mayweather Pacquiao in Twitter, you'll find it. Excuse me, Mayweather Gotti. What caused it? He was holding, so he
Starting point is 01:06:07 wouldn't stop. Floyd was boxing him up. Yeah. So Floyd is just piecing him up. So Floyd, you know, I mean, even at 46, he's the greatest of all time. And this kid is really an MMA fighter. He's a tough guy. He caught Floyd a couple of times, some little shots, but mostly he's just getting boxed up, right? Boxed up by literally the greatest boxer of all time. But he was holding on quite a bit and wouldn't let go and was trying to like hold and clinch and hit, which is something like right here, which is something you can do in MMA. So he's protecting himself from Floyd, but he's not letting go. And so Kenny Bayless gets tired of him not listening and not letting go, and he pushes him off, and he says, that's it.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I'm stopping this fight. That's it. You won't listen to me. I am calling this fight. So he goes crazy and gets away from Kenny Bayless and just starts wailing punches at Floyd. Look at this. Floyd catches him with a counter right there.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Bang. Knocked him way over the head yeah well the other guy got the one too but you know I mean it became a melee and so then there's fights in the ring and then there's fights outside the ring there's all this cell phone footage of footage of people brawling
Starting point is 01:07:18 and sucker punching each other that was crazy there's sometimes this beat um yeah here's the brawls outside just random brawls just people just screaming and yelling at each other but at the end of the day just you know he was just getting frustrated before he was just boxing him up which is what he does that's what you you came into his sport yeah got into his arena you crawled into
Starting point is 01:07:47 the snake hole and then got mad the snake will bite you yeah you can't bite me like that like you're in my hole yeah i don't know why he didn't listen why he didn't let go i don't know if they were talking shit to each other i don't know what was going on but kenny said that's it that was a rap and then everybody went crazy. That's crazy. Including him. I bet he didn't expect that. Probably thought, well, there's no points, right,
Starting point is 01:08:12 because it's an exhibition. So what's interesting is Floyd's making more money than anybody, and he's boxing people who have no chance of beating him, and he's doing it as an exhibition. It doesn't even hurt his record. Because of the drug of boxing. Also money. Just like the, but I don't even think he needs, he don't need any money.
Starting point is 01:08:31 He spends so much money. Yeah, but he don't need any. Are you sure? Yeah, Floyd good. I bet he's, if he's playing for the future, you got to keep it coming in if you're going to keep spending the way he spends. Yeah, but I think he has a lot of other business interests that he can get
Starting point is 01:08:47 money from hopefully and not just boxing but it's the it's the drug of getting Floyd still trains when he even when he doesn't have a fight he posted so we could go of all of the Air Force ones he buys he only wears them once and then gives them away to someone one fresh pair a day come on man he needs that money that money has to keep coming in if you're going to live like this it's not that expensive though but he's only 46. but he does this with everything man he's got million dollar watches i don't think he buys every every pair he's giving to him yeah because because then you get a video like that right that's smart and then you get Floyd's
Starting point is 01:09:27 Air Force ones giving away for charity that's a tax write-off yeah you got a good point but those million-dollar watches they're not giving you those they they still you know worth whatever they were it's like you got eight of them yeah that's ridiculous that's millions of dollars worth of diamonds I mean that is that's bonkers yeah he's like that's like that that watch right there is not like I wouldn't wear it because it's not my thing. Yeah. Even if, you know, I had, I wouldn't wear it. It's just not attractive to me.
Starting point is 01:10:13 No, I'm not into blinged out watches either. Nah. I like mechanical watches. I like them metal. Yeah. That's what I like. But, you know, I get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Metal. Rattle. Yeah. They work. I like dive watches. Yeah. but you know I get it yeah metal metal yeah they work I like dive watches yeah that's why I wear a watch that you can dive in
Starting point is 01:10:32 well I wear them so you can set a timer like if I want to do something I spin that little bezel and I can set it for 15-20 minutes so I always look down and know how much time's passed
Starting point is 01:10:40 it's very convenient to have a little tiny watch very convenient it's great when someone's going on stage you're like how long has he been up for because sometimes you forget you're in the green room i just look at my watch boom yeah i don't have to remember what time he went on stage okay one of those days 907 so what time is it now i don't have to do that as soon as someone goes on stage all right bam now i know It's perfect Perfect
Starting point is 01:11:07 Dive watch literally is designed for comedians It's great Someone's going on stage They're doing 15 minutes You can go outside Hang out Smoke a joint Go
Starting point is 01:11:16 He's at 7 You know And that's the perfect thing People don't understand And that's And these are the things that we get away from Using your brain Cause you you know take the clock down insane well that's the least of what's insane about schools today the biggest the biggest
Starting point is 01:11:35 insanity is that it's not a cherished position to teach people it's not a position where you have the most qualified the best people possible and they get paid really well because they have an incredible job. They're educating the young children, and that education can literally form the path that you go on for the rest of your life. Your experiences that you have in schools with good teachers, they can shape and form you in a way that changes your whole life. They can expose you to ideas that you never heard before, and it changes the way you think about things. It changes the path of whole life. It can expose you to ideas that you never heard before and it changes the way you think about things. It changes the path of your life. Yeah, it can do all of those things.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Or, okay, let's go to this point first. New Zealand has the best school system, has teachers who get paid, and they also have the best teachers because they have people who want to be teachers i think that if it's not a position in this in this country where it's made attractive where people can one survive and actually have the where they really want to be teachers. I think that sometimes we have a lot of people. Like I grew up when if the kids of the day had my teachers,
Starting point is 01:12:55 I think everything would be cool. Because I had teachers that inspired thought and creativity and they wanted to be teachers. thought and creativity and they wanted to be teachers. That's the biggest thing when you have people who want to do their job or it's more like a passion to them.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Every teacher I ever known that was great, you used to tell me that this is a labor of love. I love teaching. I'm a teacher. This is what I was designed to do. I'm not waiting to do anything else. And if you have teachers that'll walk out for more money,
Starting point is 01:13:31 you should also walk out for a better curriculum as well. If your desire is to teach children and to inspire the youth to be, and I accredit teachers for everything that I am. You know, my mom's a teacher. So it's like I'm, my friends are teachers. My sister's in Thailand right now teaching English. It's like I come from that, and I always loved, my science teacher was my coach, too. He wasn't just the coach.
Starting point is 01:14:06 He was the math. One year was the math teacher. One year was a history teacher. You know, it was people who desired and wanted to. Nourish children. And the pay. It definitely has to be increased, but you have to increase the things, the quality of what you're paying for. But don't you think that that's how you do it?
Starting point is 01:14:29 If you want to get better teachers, the better curriculum, don't you think you incentivize them with more money so you would get more motivated people? I think you do both at the same time, that you change the criteria, you change the pay, and you change the criteria of what it is to be a
Starting point is 01:14:45 teacher agreed at the same time yeah i agree and and then you you put these kids in a in a in a system to where it's everything is nourishing even down to the food you take all these cafeteria workers out and you put chefs back there you put some people and you teach them and and give them time to dodge it. Just change the whole system. They should have an hour to eat and they should get a four-course meal and they should be taught things while they're eating. They should be in a very clean environment that you have.
Starting point is 01:15:16 I used to love that the custodian, when I was growing up, he took pride in keeping the school clean. It wasn't a job that was looked down upon because he did everything. He was the maintenance man and the custodian. And he used to be like, hey, man, I got this bathroom clean here. Now y'all going to stop pissing all over the damn, that's how he used to talk to us. We were in the fourth grade. Hey, stop pissing all over the damn thing.
Starting point is 01:15:42 And I'm like, yes, sir. And he taught you hygiene in the bathroom. I think that you should change. Like, I see all these things where they changing how they house prisoners. I get that. But change how you teach children so where you don't have to house prisoners. Yes. That's the goal.
Starting point is 01:16:09 You're doing the shit backwards. Right. And I don't get that part of it. That's where I get worried. And that's where I worry that, you know, I don't know how many times we talked about it on this podcast, but it came up recently because there was a man named Bruce Bryan, and he did 29 years for a crime that he didn't do.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And my friend Josh Dubin, who used to work with the Innocence Project, now he does his own thing, and he releases, he gets prisoners released. He's an attorney, civil rights attorney. And he goes to these places, he finds these people. He's an attorney civil rights attorney. He goes these places finds these people We've talked about so much if they really wanted to fix it what they would do is They would figure out the areas that have the most crime and dump a shitload of money in it and it's shitload of time and effort And try to figure out how to mitigate all these problems in these places and And you're going to have less people that go to those places. And until they do that, they don't care. And then you've got these fears of things like the prison guard unions that literally lobby to keep marijuana drug laws so that people
Starting point is 01:17:15 keep going to jail, so they'll have more people in their jails, so they don't lose jobs, which is crazy. That's crazy to think of of something as innocuous as marijuana and you got prison guard unions who are actively trying to keep the laws in place so they're employed okay so you got a private prison system so you got a prison system where you can make money which is terrifying so it's like this then talk about this for years glad you're talking about it glad other people start talking about it so
Starting point is 01:17:48 how do you boost up our economy when in a small town so you got in Texas you have a lot of small towns and there's a place called LA, Texas so
Starting point is 01:18:02 if you decide or Hondu, Texas so what you do is you put a prison in Hondoo, which you employ the townspeople of Hondoo because they go through your system of training. You don't have to have law enforcement. You just train them in how to run your system. So you get some people that come from san antonio mz and you get some people from hondur and then you boost the economy of hondur then you do that in multiple towns that's why the prison system is going to constantly do that because you're trying to boost the economy around you're thinking think it will what? It's maybe 200 prisons in Texas.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Is it really that many? Yeah. With that and private facilities where you have what they call transit units, which is all of this stuff will be in domino effect three years because I'm going to go through the first three years and then the last three years and show people how this system, you know, populates itself. It's an industry. Yeah, it's definitely an industry. That's what Bruce is explaining, that the town in upstate New York where the prison he was in was located in, everyone relied on the prison.
Starting point is 01:19:29 The people that generational, people that their families had worked as prison guards. You know how dangerous this is? So you get into it with a guard on first shift. On the first shift, you get into it with a guard on first shift. So you get into it with Officer Smith on first shift. On the first shift, you get into it with a guard on first shift. So you get into it with Officer Smith on first shift. Second shift, Officer Smith's mother and Officer Smith's brother
Starting point is 01:19:55 work on the second shift. Officer Smith's father works on the third shift. Then he's a captain. Do you know how much, you know how treacherous this becomes? Because now, something that happened on first shift,
Starting point is 01:20:19 which is over because he's gone. But it's been told to his brother and his mother so now you got a problem on second shift now and you have a problem on third shift so with a high ranking person that's in a system that has no police outside of the warden or the captain that's over them, that's on another shift, that's related to them, that live in the same town with them. Or that's married into them or that's neighbors with them. And then you who do you how do you get contact? You got to write somebody. Who you write and they review every letter in the people that's in the mail room.
Starting point is 01:21:10 How you even know your letter even got out when his niece is working in the mail room? So you don't know. Nobody knows that you even got beat and thrown in solitary confinement. They could kill you and make up something because everybody
Starting point is 01:21:26 is relying on the same thing. You can't close a prison now over one person getting killed, two people, ten people getting killed. Okay. It happens in prison. That's what people think that happens in prison. No, it don't.
Starting point is 01:21:44 But when you put people in a small town, in a prison where everybody's related, everybody knows each other, this is what happens to people. So it's not just a you not inside with one danger. You inside with a lot of dangers. Like most of the time, people don't think that they could get killed every day or die every day. They ain't your first thought. But in this place, this is the thought. Now you can be killed by or I can be killed by the whites. I can be killed by the Mexicans.
Starting point is 01:22:13 I can be killed by somebody black that don't like me. That's from a different side of town. I can be killed by the officers. That's a lot. That's a lot of mental strain on you every day if you don't learn how to navigate this. But that's the system that you live in, especially if they're building prisons in a small town where everybody is. There's nobody to oversee this that has some other invested interest. Like if you was from another place and you were like, I just want my prison
Starting point is 01:22:46 to be ran right, and if I get any of these complaints or if something happens on this, you can regulate that, but when it's all the same, oh man, you in trouble. You in trouble. And then you make people work for 16 cents a day.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Where you get 16 cents at? Not in Texas. Whatever it is. $16 a day? What did Bruce Bryan say it was? No, $0 in Texas. $0 in Texas. Zero. No, you see, I know about other places.
Starting point is 01:23:11 That's why I'm saying they may get that in other places, but in Texas, it's $0. What was it in Sing Sing? They said $16 a day? That's what he said, right? Something insane.
Starting point is 01:23:23 In Texas, it's $0. That's crazy. work it and you work you make you make things and they sell them you make things you sell them they sell them for sure and you make and you and you do you clear fields and you grow crops and you do all and some of that stuff did you you you eat what you grow you're saying so it's? So this has been a place. This place is like no other place. Like, it's different. And most people aren't aware of this.
Starting point is 01:23:54 And they are unaware because Texas is very closed-lipped about how they operate. They don't, like, on their show Lock Up, you've just seen every other prison, every other prison system open their doors up to, hey, come and see how we do things. Not Texas. Not one time. Texas is like, man, y'all better get out of here. And they can. And they can. It's its own place. Like, if the people that come from other places and they get into like in Houston, there's a lot of people that's coming from other places that doing crime. And then they understanding that once the law enforcement system in Houston is different and is big and they crawl in a crosstalk.
Starting point is 01:24:38 It's not like you can't be in Iowa County and not in Missouri, in Missouri City, in Sugar Land, in Harris County, in Bel Air Police, all these people, and the constables and the sheriffs, like all these people coincide with each other. It's not like one system. So when you get caught, they put you in Harris County system and it's not no cakewalk. And you're going to learn fast that it's not like, oh and you're gonna learn you're gonna learn fast that it's not like oh they don't slap you on your wrist like other places no you can man you can get a life sentence in houston easy i'm easy do do something do something out of pocket like you was doing
Starting point is 01:25:21 somewhere oh you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna to just carjack. All right, that's a capital offense. You had a weapon while you was carjacking? Okay, capital. What'd that start with? 35. Whatever it is, it's going to be 35 years and up. So get that wrapped around your mind. Oh, you watched him come out the bank?
Starting point is 01:25:40 Oh, you premeditated robbing? Oh, okay. Sure got you on video too and you had a weapon oh yeah another capital like damn like like as soon he man you get hit with so many charges and then they find out you got a weapon you got a weapon like this is how they point at you you had a weapon capital they ready to throw capital on everything wow Because they need more people to put in these jails. How scary is that? How scary is that?
Starting point is 01:26:12 Texas is like this. I only had to go once. And it's nothing ever in my life that I do to ever get back to that position. Nothing. Nothing. Like, I hold court in the street before something like that happens look I'm not in favor of carjacking or armed robbery
Starting point is 01:26:29 not in any stretch of the imagination but until we address why this is all happening until you address why some people have zero need to rob people and some people that's the only way they can get by or the way they've learned to get by and it's been in their their neighborhood for so long they've been dealing with gang violence
Starting point is 01:26:50 and drug dealing and chaos all their life so i ask you this being formally from this position have i not seen anything else like ever see sometimes sometimes i can rationalize when people say i don't know anything else you have a smartphone how did you find out about smartphones because they didn't come to the hood and drop a bunch of smartphones in the hood so how did you find out about smartphones? Because they didn't come to the hood and drop a bunch of smartphones in the hood. So how did you find out about it? What you was watching? Where you was at?
Starting point is 01:27:31 Okay. So you was somewhere? Okay, cool. Were they doing what you were doing, what you're doing right now at that place? Like, were they, were you found out about a smartphone? Were they gangbanging at the place? Or were they shooting and robbing people and cutting up dope? Like, what movie haven't you seen that shows you the results of this?
Starting point is 01:27:57 What person haven't you heard speak? speak like even when I was even when I was doing wrong I had a sensibility of I heard public enemy why I was doing wrong like I I heard run DMC I heard other things that had positive stuff why I was still doing wrong and I can't say it's all I know because now I wouldn't have never thought about a smartphone if I was in the street. So I would be in the street. So it's not all you know, but it is what you're accustomed to. If you grow up in a terrible neighborhood, I don't, I don't even think if you don't have good role models, if the people around you, I mean, you tell me.
Starting point is 01:28:46 This is what I'm saying. I think that it's a lot of parts to this that but when it's also like when raising kids. Like my oldest daughter, I used to tell her mom,
Starting point is 01:29:03 don't say this in front of her because then you give her that option as an excuse. Yeah. Something she probably never would have even thought of using. But when I give her the option to use it, that's the thing. Like with me, I'm very transparent about man I didn't have to be in the street selling though my mom had a job my desire for what I accepted
Starting point is 01:29:32 outside of what my mother was saying to me because nobody mother is saying to them get out in the street and gang bang and create ruckus nobody so when does that voice become them get out in the street and gangbang and create ruckus. Nobody. So when does that voice become less important to you than whatever you're seeing in the street?
Starting point is 01:29:51 Because nobody in my community, not one black mother I ever even known in my life said to their child, this is the only way for you to go and get it. It's to rob, pillage, steal, kill, sell dope. Not one person. I've never heard that story while I was in, while I was in prison from nobody.
Starting point is 01:30:16 And when people would tell me, man, it's all I know. How in the hell is that all that you know, it's impossible for that to be all that you know, because you were doing something before you were doing that i see what you're saying i see what you're saying you're a person that takes extreme responsibility though you're also a grown man and you're also a man with a fully formed brain and your your frontal lobe as a kid as. As a kid, you knew this. Well, you were wise.
Starting point is 01:30:45 As a kid, I wasn't. Man, Joe. Man, with me, we was out in the street doing stuff. We knew that it was wrong. That's why we was trying to hide it from our parents. Of course. I wasn't trying to hide my basketball championship from my mother. Of course.
Starting point is 01:31:01 I wasn't trying to hide. When I was working and earned something from working, I wasn't trying to hide when I was working and earned something from working I wasn't trying to hide that from her I knew exactly what I was doing because of how we were going about doing it and all of us knew that we were wrong
Starting point is 01:31:18 and the consequences what was ridiculous was we thinking that we just go in and get a slap on the wrist, not understanding what you got to go through to even get that slap on the wrist. Because when you want, you got to get arrested first. And when you go to the county jail, the county jail is not a place, this is full of grown men.
Starting point is 01:31:48 And they don't care nothing about you being 17. They don't care nothing about you being 18. Care nothing about you being 19. Because whatever you were doing in the street, you didn't care. So why would we care about what you got going on in here? And we're going to put you in the worst position. So maybe you can say that you don't want to be in this position. Maybe it's the people who love you will come get you out of this position.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Like my mother did the first time. When my mother bonded me out the first time, I should have learned then. I should have learned then. This lady has a job. And I'm making it harder for her. I'm putting my mother in the hole $2,000. I got a $20,000 bond. How old are you then?
Starting point is 01:32:30 I'm 16. You know what I'm saying? And I have no reason because I want a goddamn UNLV jacket. Well, you know that now, but what did you think when you were 16? You know what? a goddamn UNLV jacket. Well, you know that now,
Starting point is 01:32:47 but what did you think when you were 16? You know what happened was, how I even get in this situation, I'm in the car with some people that's really petty. They really petty. And I know these people petty because they robbing people. And I'm not no robber. I'm a hustler.
Starting point is 01:33:04 And I know better than be with I'm not no robber. I'm a hustler and I know better than be with somebody that's a robber because it's two different categories on things. I'm hustling for whatever I want. You're taking something from somebody. You're a thief and I'm in the car
Starting point is 01:33:20 and he snatched his lady purse and I don't say nothing. I'm in the car. It's on camera in the parking lot. Everybody that go in the car, don't say nothing. I'm in the car. Based on camera in the parking lot, everybody that go in the car, we go in there. I'm not going to snitch on you. But I didn't take no purse. And I told my mom,
Starting point is 01:33:36 I ain't take that lady purse. But did you get some Jordans from the credit card that somebody used I'm with them but I ain't take nothing from that lady I told them that's stupid and boom now I'm on probation being hey I'm working at the grocery store
Starting point is 01:34:01 but I still got bread from my hustling. So I'm trying to, I'm in a position and I'm trying to figure out how to give my mother this $2,000 back for some dumb shit
Starting point is 01:34:16 that I done did. Man, I'm not supposed to be with nobody even like this. And see, nowadays people got this weird loyalty to people who they don't even fucking know that's the crazy you gotta you got loyalty to somebody who you don't know that i ain't got as much to lose as you i only hang i only really hang with me and they got things to lose like me. So you make better decisions. Yeah. Hey man, I'm not, hey man,
Starting point is 01:34:47 you got in the, man, what are you responsible for? Or who are you responsible for? That means a lot to me as a character of your person. Oh, I'm just out for self.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Oh, nah, bro. I ain't got me and you ain't got nobody to just be responsible for you just yourself no hell no like you ain't got no like nobody you don't think your mama your father like no no great aunt nobody you ain't got nobody in your life that's hell nah. Hell nah. Like, man, my agent, Joe, Joe don't have no kids, but he still love his family. He got
Starting point is 01:35:33 somebody that he's responsible. My role manager, Dre, he take care of his parents. He got kids, but he take care of his parents. He got somebody else. He can't be in the streets wiling. He got two grown-ass people he gotta look know what I'm saying he got two grown ass people he gotta look after I'm sad that his dog died
Starting point is 01:35:49 cause he ain't been home lately cause his dog ain't at the house like I'm gonna get him a new dog or something he gotta be responsible for something cause they responsible
Starting point is 01:35:58 for me they responsible for different aspects of what go on in my life so you gotta care and love something because you know that I care and love something. Yeah. So you want the best for me because you want the best for yourself. Yeah, the wildest dudes I know, they have no responsibilities.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Not a goddamn thing. It gets real weird when they get in their 40s. Oh, man. Like, it's... Real weird. real weird when they get in their 40s oh man like it's we're real weird do you know how weird it is to have somebody that's that's 45 years old 50 years old coming to your house for your kids birthday party and he's coming in hey what's happening if you don't get your grown unresponsive like it just like man you gotta that's a part of, yo, man, at least bring your mom or somebody, man.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Bring somebody else that love you, man. Like, we have people in our family that don't have any other family, but they've been around a long time. They've been around before I even had kids. Like, if you want to have a successful civilization, you have to have families. Gotta have families. You would never have a successful civilization of all single men with no responsibility that
Starting point is 01:37:13 move to a spot. I'm throwing that shit at Paris so fast. I'm throwing that shit at we be over. Yeah, that's not gonna work. It's not. Families. I mean, they've always said that. would be over yeah that's not gonna work it's not families i mean they've always said that that's that's like something that emperors have they've written this down you know that you you have to you have to have families people have to have family that's how you can control them as well that's how they stay controlled and it's how you can control them
Starting point is 01:37:41 well i would prefer not to look at my family as some form of control. No, no, no, it's not that way. It's also, you know, Dave Chappelle said it best. He said, having children didn't just increase my love, it increased my capacity for love. Yeah. It's a beautiful quote. I think it's perfectly described because that's exactly what happens.
Starting point is 01:38:00 It changes who you are as a person when you're responsible for young people. It just fundamentally changes you. Yeah, you think on a different level when you're responsible for young people. And when I am at my best, I'm the most charitable to everyone because I think of people as babies. Like this is a baby that grew up to be this dude I'm in front of now. I think even if they're annoying me, I try real hard to just imagine what the fuck they went through to get to be this person right now. This is not fun.
Starting point is 01:38:31 It's not fun to be annoying. It's not fun to be them. You know, you're talking to a moron that's saying stupid shit and they're annoying. It's not fun to be them where no one's impressed with you, no one's interested in what you have to say. You're fucking spitting in people's faces and you're drunk and stupid. That's terrible. You don't want to be that guy no one's impressed with you no one's interested in what you have to say you're fucking spitting in people's faces and you're drunk
Starting point is 01:38:46 and stupid that's terrible you don't want to be that guy that's terrible but I try to always imagine the description is even terrible yeah
Starting point is 01:38:53 happens all the time I've had some doozies they always want to tell you about their business they always want to tell you how good their business is doing like Jesus Christ I don't even know you man
Starting point is 01:39:01 this is crazy talk crazy talk get Crazy talk. Get me the fuck out of here. And then when you're talking to someone and they want to get the fuck out of there and you know they want to get the fuck out of there, then you feel insecure and you try to be more entertaining or nice, try to turn them around. And they're like, eh, eh, eh.
Starting point is 01:39:20 That's not fun for them, that poor little baby. That poor little baby grew up to become an annoying 45 year old dude that poor little baby that poor little baby he 45 but he's a poor little baby poor little baby is a goofy
Starting point is 01:39:37 socially awkward dude it's just annoying and they say weird stuff they do the problem is you're used to talking to comics. That was part of the problem. I'm so used to talking to comics. It's so fun.
Starting point is 01:39:52 It's my favorite people to talk to. So when I talk to people, the stories suck. You got great stories. You're a master storyteller. You tell a fucking story. If you're at a party and you're telling a story, people are going to listen. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be funny as shit some people suck at stories and there's nothing worse when you've heard a real good story to go back to
Starting point is 01:40:14 listening to a sucky story that's that's true that's true that that is true are you like so because and i'm I know because I'm labeled as a storyteller when people try to talk to me they try to tell me stories and I and I be kind of
Starting point is 01:40:30 rushing it like and uh huh and what cause it's like you like like all this part is this could be interesting but this
Starting point is 01:40:38 you are losing me in all of this part right here for no reason for no reason like man speed it up like you got there in two words
Starting point is 01:40:44 and then I say, so after that happened, what happened then? I try to speed up the story. And man, I went back. And then I don't like when people repeat the first part of this. Man, I heard you the first time. Because this is how I listen to people's story. I just listen. Like I'm not the,
Starting point is 01:41:11 mm-hmm, then go ahead. And yeah, no, I'm just, man, are you, did you hear what I said?
Starting point is 01:41:17 Yes, because I am actively listening. I'm not listening to respond. I'm just, I'm locked in. Actually locked in. And, well, you're not saying nothing. I'm going to remember all the points that I want to say
Starting point is 01:41:31 when you're done. Because you may cover something that I'm thinking. Right. So I don't want to interrupt you in the course of it. I'm just listening. And then, oh, I can mark that off because he just said why that happened. Okay. Podcasting. Okay. Okay. I'm just listening and then oh I can mark that off cuz he just said why that happened. That's good podcasting Okay, okay, okay, and okay so all that happened right okay cool so going back
Starting point is 01:41:57 That's what I do cuz I know how to actively listen yeah, there's a mighty story I love doing Tony and I do that all the time with comedians Where we're like this whole thing you don't need that part that whole part is just wasted time You know that whole setup part everyone knows what that means just say this And that's what killed Tony is right yeah, and I'm supposed to be doing that you doing tonight. Yeah Oh, it's gonna be great great. I did it Saturday night. I did the big one that they did the 10th anniversary. The 10th anniversary.
Starting point is 01:42:29 It was wild. The fucking, the rabid fans that they have. It's crazy. Man. It's crazy. 3,000 people. It sold out as quick as they could sell the tickets. It sold out in under an hour.
Starting point is 01:42:44 Oh, wow. And you get there and they're like. It sold out as quick as they could sell the tickets. It sold out in under an hour. Oh, wow. And you get there, and they're like, I haven't experienced that yet. Oh, my God. I'm waiting. 2024, we're supposed to be doing a theater tour. I hope it really just sells out.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Oh, you're going to get like 8 million? What? How many? 8.1? That's the first one. The second one, we're trying to get 10 million, 16 million. You're going to have to change to bigger venues. It's going to happen so fast. You're going to be in arenas.
Starting point is 01:43:18 You're going to be in arenas, 100%. When you do an arena, do it in the round. In the round? Yeah. You know why? Believe it or not It's actually more intimate. It seems weird, but when it's a stage It's a big tall ass stage and you're looking down on people and they're all in front of you. It's weird
Starting point is 01:43:35 It's like you got to almost project to like bring them in to you like come on Well, I know there's a lot of us, but we're all just hanging out, you know But when it's in the round Everybody on this side is looking at everybody on this side, and everybody on this side is looking at everybody on this side. Everybody sees everybody laughing, and everybody's laughing at everybody. And the sound is insane. And you just walk around, and you get used to it.
Starting point is 01:43:57 You just walk around and talk. And while you're walking around, you do your jokes. And there's giant screens everywhere, so people could always see your facial expressions. And it's intimate. You know what's insane? In this business, just wanting to be a good comic, just wanting to develop that skill, then getting to this point where we even talking about 2024, we going to theaters. And we taking some big swings in some big places, in Chicago and in New York. You doing Chicago Theater?
Starting point is 01:44:35 We hoping. That's a great fucking venue. And then in the course of trying to shoot Domino Effect 3 and 4 in september trying to find a venue for that um the thought of doing arenas and getting to that getting to that point and when people say man are you you've been doing something 25 years are you tired like i get bored like you don't get bored with the elevation of doing things on a bigger a bigger scale like doing all these shows that sold out and adding shows and when you walk out and people coming to see you but now doing arenas or doing a theater when people coming to the theater to actually see
Starting point is 01:45:23 somebody tell stories i'm not coming to see you do no tiktok clips or because that's not i'm not coming to see you do crowd work i'm coming in with the whole mindset of he's about to do an hour and 30 minutes of compelling stories and this is what i came for. To get that type of locked in that's on an audience, I'm... Once I achieve that, I think I'm... I'm gonna be very, very
Starting point is 01:45:54 happy. You're gonna slide right into that. It's no different. It's no different than clubs. It's no different. The only thing that's different is the environment. But the experience of doing it is the same thing. It's just killing. It's the different. The only thing that's different is the environment. But the experience of doing it is the same thing. It's just killing. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:46:08 Just the challenge, what makes it interesting for me, 30 plus years in, whatever my, I'm like 34 something, 35 years in, something crazy. The challenge is jokes. It's new jokes, new bits, getting better. You always get better. You figure out a way to tighten it. You figure out a way to do This one better every new bit is a new living thing that you're feeding and growing and trying to make it the most palatable and the most exciting and the sneakiest and the funniest and the most outrageous get the biggest laughs with it like what's the Funniest way to say this and every day you fuck with it a little more and every day you're adding to it and every day
Starting point is 01:46:43 You're putting a new piece here, a new piece there. I love it. I don't have to do it. I do it just because I love it. Yeah. That's why I opened up the club. That's why I tour.
Starting point is 01:46:53 I'm supposed to be coming to the club. I'm excited. When are you here? I don't know the date, but I assume. You're going to love it. You're going to love it. It's like the end of July thing. It's a fucking great place, man. It's set the end of July thing It's a fucking great place man
Starting point is 01:47:05 It's set up just for us It's set up just for us Everything about it Everything about it From the way you move Around the club Where you don't have to Go through the crowd
Starting point is 01:47:13 To go from room to room To the way the green room Is set up The balconies So you can watch the show This black curtain Is so Beautiful right
Starting point is 01:47:23 Beautiful You know we had to change it. It was a blue curtain at first, but then we put on the monitors. Like, it looked really nice. The guy, the architect who did it, Richard Weiss, is amazing. And he did the whole building. Amazing, amazing job. But he wanted to make it pretty, right?
Starting point is 01:47:37 So he had a beautiful hardwood, like light hardwood floors and a blue screen, a blue curtain rather. And we were watching on the screen. And, you know, I'm fucking with everything, right, in the beginning especially. We need a light here and a light there. We need timers underneath the monitor so everybody knows how much time you're doing. And so you know how much the time the guy's on stage,
Starting point is 01:47:54 how long he's been up. And also we want a light for each room. So when you're in the little room, it's a green star in the green room. So when he gets the light, you see the light. So there's a green star that lights up in the green room. And if it's in the big room, it's a green star in the green room so when he gets the light you see the light So there's a green star lights up in the green room, and if it's in the big room. It's a blue star So it was all this tweaking and shit We did and we were watching on the monitor Mike that floor has got to go
Starting point is 01:48:13 It's got to be black carpet black carpet and a dark like sparkly black curtain just like in the little boy There's a smaller room so we put that in there now. It's Yeah, now. I don't want to fuck with anything. Now I'm like, we're good. I looked from the balcony yesterday. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:48:33 It's amazing. I can't wait to come. It's right on 6th Street. Yeah. All lit up in the front. It looks great. And everybody's so hyped up. They're so hyped up.
Starting point is 01:48:45 Because we were talking about doing it for two years. Yeah. in the front. It looks great. And everybody's so hyped up. They're so hyped up. It's such a, because we were talking about doing it for two years. Yeah. I had actually bought another building and I had to get out of the deal.
Starting point is 01:48:53 There was like some shit wrong with it and I got out of the deal and so it took a whole extra year to like get this other place and then once I got the place, I had to.
Starting point is 01:49:04 You want some coffee? You know what's amazing is that when you have friends that say something like, yeah, I bought another building. I know, it sounds stupid. Then I grow up with that. Yeah, so I had a whole other building, and then I had to get out, and I had to sell that building. They're like, who buy buildings?
Starting point is 01:49:27 I'm like, that's dynamic. Go ahead, though. It's normal for me now. I know it sounds fucked up, but I'm just being honest. So the building that I bought was owned by a cult. Get out of town. Yeah. I didn't know the extent of it until I was already in the deal to it already signed the contract my friend Adam
Starting point is 01:49:46 Called me up. He goes. Hey, man. You watch the documentary on this cult Adam Adam get our talent coordinator. I Go no, he goes. Oh, it's bad. You should watch it. He was it's fucking crazy. It's called. Holy hell Yeah It's about this dude His name is Jaime Gomez and he was a gay porn star and a hypnotist. And he started a club, or started a cult, rather, in West Hollywood. He was teaching people yoga.
Starting point is 01:50:12 And he got a bunch of young disciples. They believed that he was a guru. And he was God energy. And he convinced them. And he ran this game for like 10 fucking years. Maybe he was hypnotizing people. He was, 100%. That's how he got in trouble. They all started talking because one guy left the cult. And when he left the cult, he was hypnotized people. He was a hundred percent. That's how that's how he got in trouble
Starting point is 01:50:30 That's they all started talking because one guy left the cult when he left the cult sent a mass email saying hey man This guy's been hypnotized me fucking me for the past ten years This and then they all started talking about it And they all started sharing the email and they all started sharing their stories with them They had all kind of kept it under wraps and this guy was doing this and he escaped la because they were after him it was right around the time when waco went down and the cult awareness network was like going after cults and so they escaped he changes his name again his name was jaime gomez he changed his name to michelle and then he changed it again to andreas that's when he moved to austin And he built this place called the One World Theater.
Starting point is 01:51:05 And this is the place I bought. So all these poor, lost kids, they built this place for him. They were his disciples. They didn't have contractors. The cult members built the place. Under hypnosis. Well, I don't think
Starting point is 01:51:20 that was under hypnosis, but what he would do is he'd give them therapy every week. He'd charge them money. Charge them 50 bucks for therapy. and then he'd fuck them. This guy. You should watch the documentary.
Starting point is 01:51:29 The documentary is wild. Holy hell. Yeah, because we were talking about cults. Here's the thing. In the beginning, it was working. In the beginning, it looked like fun. Because I think in the beginning, he was young and hot. He was a beautiful man, especially when he was young.
Starting point is 01:51:44 And he had this crazy body, six--pack that's when he's getting older but when he was young he was a when he was a gay porn star he was a beautiful man and i think he probably got plenty of dick already he didn't have to fuck his disciples and he just had these people that were like washing his feet and he was teaching him yoga and telling them that they're all god energy and everyone's god and i'm god and he even got so far with the hypnosis that he convinced these people that he could give them the enlightenment. He could touch them. I think he called it the knowing.
Starting point is 01:52:12 And it would be like this big thing. You had to earn the knowing. But when he gave it to these people, just the power of suggestion. These people were like, they were having these ecstatic, psychedelic experiences. Like they encountered God and it lasted for days. These are people talking about this after they left the cult, after they knew he was a con man, after they knew that he'd just been hypnotizing people and fucking them,
Starting point is 01:52:36 and he was just full of shit and getting plastic surgery and all kinds of wild shit. Even though they had gone through all that that they still went back and talked about when he would do that to them early in their life and that they really did like experience god they was on strong i don't think they were i think it's the power of suggestion because i've seen it at have you ever seen a comedy hypnotist yes they can do some wild shit to people that's a comedy hypnotist in front of an audience yeah if you're a real hypnotist like this guy was and did nobody know it? Yeah doing and you you're you're trained in hypnotherapy you you you know how to Get people to think if you've learned how to get people to think that there's this thing that you have and you can give it to
Starting point is 01:53:22 Them and you hold it over their head for a long fucking time until you actually do give it to them and when you do give it to them they believe it wholeheartedly and so they actually experience it because your brain can produce all kinds of wild chemicals your brain can produce legitimate psychedelic chemicals like full-on tripping chemicals yeah so if this guy can convince you that that's happening your brain probably does dump all those chemicals out because you think it's actually happening that's crazy crazy so he's kind of telling the truth which is the most fucked up thing he's kind of giving you this experience and it is a real experience but the whole thing goes off the rails it goes off the rails and eventually he has they, they actually fly him to Hawaii to get rid of him.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Damn. They can't get rid of this guy. Like, why he can't be arrested for the nonsense that he's doing? See, the thing is, if you're going to arrest him, like, those people are there because they're willing to be there. They want to be there. They believe in him. 20 people went with him to Hawaii. When the cult broke up, a bunch of them flew to hawaii with him and he got mad we started a whole new cult
Starting point is 01:54:30 over there and he's old by then now he's old and he looks like shit when he was young and he was like this beautiful guy who was convincing everybody you are love we are love and they're like yeah we don't have to go to regular work we can grow our own food yeah this is why I don't believe in I don't believe in cults things like that and I'm not
Starting point is 01:54:51 like I believe they happen I just don't believe the person who's saying it just like I don't believe in anybody who's trying to tell me how to get rich quick yeah cause like
Starting point is 01:55:00 why would you tell me right like you're not that damn gracious where you like oh I'm a billionaire. I want to make you a billionaire, too. Come on, man. Get the—
Starting point is 01:55:10 The get-rich-quick scheme that they don't want you to know about. That's always what it is. They don't want you to know. Man, and any type of group thing, like something comes around all at once and everybody's doing it anytime I see a regular ass person doing something like yo man you can invest in this get out of here man
Starting point is 01:55:34 get your regular ass out of here you know what I'm saying I'm not for me to believe in you you definitely have to look a certain type of way I'm just not impressed. Even if you look homeless, it's still a way to look rich at the same time. Burt Chrysler showed me that.
Starting point is 01:55:59 I did Burt's podcast, and he came to my room. I was in Tampa, and he came to my room with, like, no shirt on. Flip-flops. Nails. He didn't even have on shoes. And his toenails was painted, and he come with all this equipment, and he walks in my room. The first thing he said, can I use your restroom?
Starting point is 01:56:17 I said, yeah, go ahead. It's right there. And then he comes out of the restroom, he's wiping his hands, and he's saying, Ali, no disrespect, were you raised by a single mother? I said, yeah, why? Because your room is amazing. I've been in my room for four hours. I've been squatting for two months.
Starting point is 01:56:39 And he does, we do the podcast, and then he's walking out, and I'm thinking because he don't have on shoes and no shirt, he's clearly in his nice Toyota Camry right here. And I'm walking towards his Camry, and I look back, and he's like, is that your rental car? I'm like, no, I was walking around, I thought this was your car. He's in his huge, like, pearl Benz. It's a beautiful car this is a beautiful bins
Starting point is 01:57:09 and he's putting the podcast equipment in the back and he just like slams the door like okay see you later drives off with no shoes on like that is a rich ass homeless person right there man the richest homeless person I ever seen.
Starting point is 01:57:27 Yeah, Bert is Bert. Bert's leaning more into being Bert now that he has money. Like, you think he was, like, more conservative when he didn't have money. He looked like he was more wealthy when he had no money. You know, he looked respectable, looked normal. Now, if you're not looking at his watch, you look at him like, who the fuck is this dude? With a Rolex. Is that a Rolex?
Starting point is 01:57:53 Rolex is going down. How the fuck did he get that Rolex? Anybody's getting a Rolex. That's a Sky-Dweller. What the fuck? He looked good. I was at his premiere. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:03 He looked good. The machine. Yeah, Burt. I called Burt up once. He was at his premiere. Yeah. He looked good. The machine. Yeah, Bert. I called Bert up once. He was on a motorcycle in Vietnam. I called him up. I was in the comedy store in the back green room area. And I was about to go on stage soon.
Starting point is 01:58:17 And I just felt like calling him out of nowhere. And he answers the phone. I go, where are you? He goes, I'm on a motorcycle in Vietnam. This is amazing. And I go, what are you doing? Are you there for your Travel Channel show? He goes, yeah. I go, where are you? He goes, I'm on a motorcycle in Vietnam. This is amazing. And I go, what are you doing? Are you there for your Travel Channel show? He goes, yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:28 I go, dude, you got to quit that show. I go, you're too funny. You're too good. You're a funny comedian. You should be making money doing stand-up comedy. Not doing that show, man. I know it's a velvet prison. You got to quit that fucking show.
Starting point is 01:58:40 I would love to do a Travel Channel. Oh, it's too many months. He was gone for like three, four months at a time when his kids were young. Ugh. Yeah, it's like not good. It's also, it's like, it was limiting him. It was a great opportunity initially,
Starting point is 01:58:55 but then it was limiting him. I'm like, Burke, you could, with just podcast and stand-up comedy, you're gonna be fucking huge. Like, you don't need to be saddled into this organization. Because they're also gonna, they're gonna be upset if. Like, you don't need to be saddled into this organization. Because they're also gonna be upset if you talk about certain things. Travel Channel was a very conservative channel at one point in time.
Starting point is 01:59:13 I don't know how they are now, but I know Anthony Bourdain had a problem with them as well, a similar situation. It's like, Burt, you're fucking bent against yourself. If I find a great producer, I'm probably gonna do a podcast. You should do a podcast. If I find a great producer, I'm probably going to do a podcast. You should do a podcast. It's just a...
Starting point is 01:59:29 You don't need a great producer, man. Well, I need a producer because me coming in and setting up camera... So don't do it on camera at first. Nobody can do all this by themselves. Just do it audio at first. Do it audio at first. Real simple.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Get an audio recorder. Get one of those little fucking... What are those? Rones? What are those things called? What are those things called? What are those things called, Jamie? Zoom or Rodecaster. There's a bunch of them.
Starting point is 01:59:50 They set them up now. They have pre-made podcast setups that you can buy. That's how popular podcasts are. You don't need any bullshit. You got a mic like this. These are Shores. These are my favorite ones. We've been using these forever.
Starting point is 02:00:09 You put it on a fucking stand it plugs into that thing you press record and you do a podcast you got an audio file you upload it to itunes it's free and then boom it's up there you let everybody know it's up there people start downloading it at least what is the percentage of the amount of people that just listen to us what what would you say it is? I think it's over half still. Yeah. It's a majority still just listen. Most people just listen. So that's this, and this is, you know, a giant podcast. When you first start out,
Starting point is 02:00:36 people like to listen to podcasts when they're driving, they like to listen to podcasts at the gym, when they're on vacation, you're on a plane, six hours, easy. Just chill out. You got a couple of podcasts before on a plane, six hours, easy, just chill out. You got a couple of podcasts before you know it, six hours is gone. Just do that.
Starting point is 02:00:49 And then it's easy. It's easy. You're already great at it. You're great right here. You're great at it. Just do it. Simple. I think that's my next thing.
Starting point is 02:00:58 100%. Do me a little podcast. Before you know it, it'll be huge. My friend Cameron Haynes, who was just here the other day, same thing I talked him into doing it forever. I'm like you're great. You could be great at this and then you don't have a boss Now he's killing it Yeah, same thing with Bert and all those guys Tom Segura. I talked to him into doing it
Starting point is 02:01:18 I talked to Ari into doing it. I talked to all those guys into doing podcast I know I know I didn't do a podcast. You can have a great success record. Oh, I'm pretty good at it. Yeah, I know. I know when someone can do it. Yeah. Yeah, so that's my thing. And putting these specials out, that's the other niche of it. That's another.
Starting point is 02:01:40 The way you're doing it is podcast style in a way because you're doing it yourself now. And doing it yourself and putting it up on YouTube is the way to do it rather than going through some big corporation, some Netflix or HBO or whatever it is. Like you're almost betting against yourself at this point because the numbers that you get when you put it up where everybody can get it anytime they want. And then someone could say, oh my God, have you seen this? And then they could share it and they send it to you. Oh my God, this dude's hilarious. And they send it to you. And then people just start sharing it. They share it on social media. They share it in text messages. Boom. Boom. Boom.
Starting point is 02:02:09 Yeah, you don't need anybody anymore. And podcasts just add to it. It just adds to it. And it's easy. And it's fun. It's fun to do. Have a friend come over. Have a drink.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Smoke a joint. Start talking shit. Laugh your ass off. That's basically what it is that's what it is having a having a great time yeah it's it's um it's amazing it's amazing the amount of power in sitting up talking it's it's amazing well i think think one of the things that's happening to people when they're stuck in an office all day or stuck working all day is they're not getting to have long conversations
Starting point is 02:02:52 about things they really think about. And if you are in a situation where you can listen to people have those conversations, it's the next best thing. And sometimes you can listen to those people have conversations with people that you're never going to get to meet. Oh, that's the best. Yeah, that's best thing. And sometimes you can listen to those people, have conversations with people that you're never going to get to meet, you know? Oh, that's the best. Yeah, that's the thing. You know, I think that if you have great guests
Starting point is 02:03:14 or you have great opinions or great thoughts that you can podcast. Some people ask you to do their podcast. You're like, man, who the hell? What the hell are y'all even over there talking about it's not for everybody but it's for you yeah that's what i say about a lot of things but that's most things most things that i like are not for everybody you know that's comedy yeah i remember when i the the only time i've ever not wanted somebody to be good
Starting point is 02:03:40 ever was at the comedy the comedy stop but let the last stop in Houston in Houston that was the only time I ever wanted somebody not to be good why is that I was I came there you had to get on a list when I started you had to come in get on yeah so I'm there and it's Monday and I sign up, and I was like 26th on the list. I'm like, man, 26 people are going to go up. And the guy in front of me was like, yeah, man, I've been doing this 20 years. And I was like, oh, shit. He is 25 on the list, and he said he's been doing it 20 years.
Starting point is 02:04:26 And I'm thinking, yeah, I know a lot of comics, man. I've studied this game a lot. Oh, I hope he's not funny. Because if he is, I got a long ass way to go. I'm four months in. He's 20 years in. He goes on stage and he was fucking horrible. And I was
Starting point is 02:04:46 like, yes. Like, no wonder. You're still getting it together. It was one of them things. And I still see him around now. Do you really? At open mic nights? At open mic nights. I pop in every
Starting point is 02:05:02 blue moon at an open mic. And when you go in there, you see the same people in there. You're like, what the freak is going on? Yeah, what is going on? Do people not? Okay, like. You know what it's like? It's like if you are in a boxing gym and this dude's been KO'd the last 16 times he sparred,
Starting point is 02:05:22 you got to go mic. You can't. You can't do this anymore. You can't do this anymore. This is bad for you. This is bad for you. Nah, bro. You know, I'm working on my head movement. Let me in there. Dude, I'm laughing. Because that Main Street Boxing
Starting point is 02:05:37 is guys that come in there, and you just in there, you're like, hey, man. What'd he do? He's like, hey, man. He get beat up professionally. Sparring partner. Like, what? Like, hey, man, like, he's never won a fight.
Starting point is 02:05:54 Like, every fight he's ever been in, he has been out of there. And then in the sparring, but he's a sparring partner. Yeah. And in there just taking it. And then he'll take fights where he knows he's supposed to lose. There's a lot of those guys out there. Wow. In the early days of a fighter's development, they will, you know, that's one thing that boxing has over MMA.
Starting point is 02:06:17 They'll kind of almost be setups where, you know, this guy's like 20 and you know 20 losses and like 2 wins there's guys like that that are out there legitimately they have the craziest records you've ever seen and they're licensed and they'll go in and they'll fight some young Arturo Gotti looking dude and that guy will light them up or you go in like them 2 wins
Starting point is 02:06:40 them 2 wins it's like you fucking know you're supposed to lose I was just in there I was trying the guy was so bad he ran into my job win. Them two wins. Hey, man, you fucking know you're supposed to lose. I was just in there. I was trying. The guy was so bad, he ran into my job. That's terrible. You're just 2-25. You say, man,
Starting point is 02:06:59 how you win them two fights, man? I would be pissed. Have you ever seen a fixed fight? Not knowingly. Not knowing while you're watching it? Not knowing. Until I'm in the middle of this shit. Like, man, this shit's fucking fixed, man.
Starting point is 02:07:19 There was some fixed fights in the early days in Japan. In MMA, there was some fixed fights. Japan was real weird, because you had real fights, for sure. And then you had some fights where the hero wins, the local hero wins, and you're like, how did he get him in a heel hook?
Starting point is 02:07:38 Why is it tapping like that? Why is it so dramatic? This is pro wrestling. This is like... There was some weird moments and there was a there was a boxing match i remember this one there was some i believe it was in remember the guy who had a bunch of weird surgery he had like muscle implants and he he boxed this guy and it was so clear that the guy took a dive. It was like the worst acting of all time.
Starting point is 02:08:10 Who was the guy that the bald head, big white guy that Tyson fought when he got out of prison? Oh, he wasn't bald. Peter McNeely. Peter McNeely was the white guy. Oh, you mean Franz Botha or Andrew Gulotta? Was it Andrew Gulotta you're talking about? The Polish guy? He had on some American shorts. He had on some shorts with some color on them.
Starting point is 02:08:23 I can't remember. Not that guy that had on the green. If it's Peter McNeely, Peter McNeely is the guy who fought right out of jail. That's when Tyson had a six-pack. Oh, not him. Because that dude had on green shorts. Did he? So this is the guy.
Starting point is 02:08:35 So the guy on the left, is he like some rich guy or something? But look at him. He's some rich guy, and he's got fake muscles. Yeah, he got implants. I can see that off the rip. Yeah, but it's wild. Look, his shoulders are fake. Everything's fake.
Starting point is 02:08:46 It's weird. And so it's like this is the clearest, like, fixed fight you're ever going to see. Look at this. I mean, come on. How fake does that look? That looks so fake. That looks so fake.
Starting point is 02:09:00 What just happened? He hit him with a left hook. I know. But watch it again. Let's watch it again. Look at this guy holding his hands up and watch. Watch this. He like literally shows him his chin. And just
Starting point is 02:09:10 goes like what? And he goes down. Yeah. It's so fake. Watch. I mean this guy's a terrible actor. Crazy. Terrible actor. Right? So he moves forward and then Muscles over here is going to move in for the kill with his zero skills. Look at this.
Starting point is 02:09:26 Look at, I mean, he's got nothing. It's like a guy who just learned boxing yesterday, and he's holding fake boobs. It's crazy. Like, this is one of the weirdest videos, I think, on the Internet. He must be a billion trillionaire. I don't know, but he's got to be an insane person. Like, he's definitely insane with these fake muscles. But also the fact that
Starting point is 02:09:45 he wants people to think that he had a boxing match and that he won. I mean, this is crazy. This guy can't even fake go down. And then the referee waves it off. That's it. What a conqueror. I mean, this is a crazy video. It's Fixed Boxing Fight. You can find it on YouTube.
Starting point is 02:10:00 Oh, man. Look at this guy. That's a crazy person. Look at this guy that's a crazy person look at this guy he's insane yeah that's it that is a weird thing to do to be a man and get a neck implant that's so crazy man do you understand i i don't i i think people don't think that these people have problems they just think that they just oh this is they just want to enhance their body. Everybody wants to enhance their... Okay. All right.
Starting point is 02:10:27 That's crazy. You just... You know what I'm saying? Just me stuffing some shoulder pads under my skin and it's just like... You see the one guy
Starting point is 02:10:36 who has like the most of it? He's like a human Ken doll. Yeah, what's that dude's name? I don't know. He's a weird dude. Oh my God. He's got everything. He got calf implants
Starting point is 02:10:44 and bicep implants. Like, man, what is wrong? And then his neck all skinny. Like, it's crazy. It looks so weird. Oh, man. But it's one of those things. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:10:54 Yeah, it's one of those things like anorexia. They can't see how other people see it. They have body dysmorphia. Show a photo of his body because he's got all these implants all over the place. Like, that's crazy town. All of his quads, his quad implants and calf implants. He either digs it to the surgeons. Yeah, and look, his shoulders.
Starting point is 02:11:15 I mean, it's kind of nuts, man. But then the neck is all thin. Yeah, look at his neck. Like, that's crazy town. Is that two different people, or is that the same i don't know that that one looks even scarier click on that one that's a different person click on that different person what is that oh my god that one yeah click jesus christ man oh my god that is wild that is wild man oh my god that's so crazy that that's a real person.
Starting point is 02:11:45 And I know more people, I know a lot of people just, hey, just want to take the picture, which is feeding into the craziness. Well, yeah, because it gets you more attention, right? He says he's sinking after 11 nose jobs. Oh, that's the other thing. They all get addicted to it, so they keep going. Like Michael Jackson. Oh, man. Yeah. Like we were talking about addicted to it, so they keep going. Like Michael Jackson. Oh, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:06 Like we were talking about the other day. Michael Jackson's plastic surgeon, that dude never advertised. Just kept going. He just kept going. Oh, my God. And to Barbie. Oh, my God. And then he became Barbie?
Starting point is 02:12:17 Yeah. Oh, my God. And now he's dressing like this. Oh, Jesus Christ. Everyone's insane. And that's what he used to look like with the pants? I would assume so. Should I say she? That's what he used to look like with the pants Should I say she that's what she used to look like what a wild world we live in man. What a wild world Wait until people could change gender with like gene therapy wait till they could do that
Starting point is 02:12:39 People gonna be bouncing back and forth How many times been a woman? well I was a woman for two years and I didn't like it went back to be bouncing back and forth. How many times have you been a woman? Well, I was a woman for two years, and I didn't like it. Went back to being a man. And I decided to be a really big man for a while, but my joints hurt. So then I became a little man. See what it's like to get picked on.
Starting point is 02:12:54 Then I went back to being a woman. Yeah, I mean, we're going to be able to bounce back and forth. I think so. I think not us, but I think future generations. and forth I think so I think not on not us but I think future generations I think they're gonna be able to manipulate biology in some very like like flexible way I really do yeah they're already fucking around with with gene splicing with humans and animals they're doing all kinds they're doing wild shit and this is what we know they're doing yeah who knows what they're doing in other countries where we don't have fucking eyes on the lab, you know?
Starting point is 02:13:30 Because this is why I believe in Bigfoot. I don't think because Bigfoot is some science project they got out that is crazy. And they know it exists they know it's on the on the level they know it's just crazy i think bigfoot used to exist i think it's absolutely it's definitely a new one i don't think so you don't think it's a new one out there no it's some grizzly bear sheep that's you know why you know why i really don't think it because the people that i know that are like real hunters that go deep, deep, deep into the backcountry for weeks at a time, real dudes. Dudes are in Alaska.
Starting point is 02:14:10 Guys are in the mountains of Montana. Guys are in the Pacific Northwest in the rainforest up there. Those dudes never say shit. They've never seen shit. Everybody just sees bears. You see bears. And I think if you're a person that's not around wildlife a lot you see a bear walking on two legs in the deep forest especially if it's dark out
Starting point is 02:14:27 you think you saw a fucking Bigfoot but at one point in time it was a real thing you know that the whole story? I knew it was a real ass Bigfoot Gigantopithecus this is the thing with these scientific experiments
Starting point is 02:14:43 do you remember it was a while back i think we talked about it well i talked about it somewhere where these um orangutans got out of a nuclear lab in san antonio a biometrical lab in san anton Antonio you can look this shit up now it's no telling what they did to them orangutans while they was in there but they were smart enough
Starting point is 02:15:12 to get the fuck out so it's no where did they go they was just they was just out loose did they catch them I think so imagine if one got away
Starting point is 02:15:20 just just hide now they don't they don't even know what they came in contact with so it was a was a it was a biomedical lab they do i didn't know they do experiments on chimpanzees that's that fucking it's it's like i got i almost have like i have a lot of sympathy towards any animal brilliant baboons escape from tex Texas bio lab using their captors own barrels
Starting point is 02:15:45 Yeah, baboons using just a 55 gallon barrel the three baboons liberated themselves that confines the biomedical research facility this weekend For about a half an hour before they were captured and returned to incarceration Incarcerations a fucked-up word They never did anything wrong That's fucked baboons are freaky. They're different in orangutans baboons that never did anything wrong. That's fucked. Baboons are freaky. They're different than orangutans. Baboons freak me out. They use the barrels.
Starting point is 02:16:09 Because they got almost like a wolf mouth. It's like a monkey with a wolf mouth. But on Saturday, one baboon learned to put a barrel upright and use it to get to the top of the wall. Then the three other baboons, monkey saw and monkey did. And so they just hopped over. and the four baboons scaled the wall, but one returned on its own volition. That's a bitch-ass one.
Starting point is 02:16:31 He told on everybody. This motherfucker's got to help. Remaining three were apprehended by members of the animal care and animal capture team, which wore protective suits and masks. San Antonio news outlet KSAT reported that witnesses were concerned that the baboons were carrying infectious disease. A news release from TBRI stated the baboons weren't
Starting point is 02:16:50 infected. What does that mean? They weren't infected. Infected with what? What are you doing over there? What the fuck are you doing over there? You know? That's the premise of the movie 28 Days Later.
Starting point is 02:17:05 Outbreaking. Yeah. And when the story happened, I said, man, y'all don't realize at the end of the world, that's the start of every zombie apocalypse movie I've never heard of. Well, you know what's fucked up? There is a real zombie virus that everyone is aware of This it's called rabies. Yes rabies rabies is a zombie virus for animals I mean, they're not dead, but they might as well be they're trying to get to you and bite you
Starting point is 02:17:37 They're trying to literally that their brain is hijacked. They're so aggressive They're trying to bite you to infect you with the rabies. So the rabies has convinced these animals the baboons hop a fence so here's these guys chasing them. They're running, chasing after the baboons. Hey bro, get back here. What if that baboon just turned around and just
Starting point is 02:17:57 fucked them up? That dude does not look like he's wearing a suit. He looks regular. Yeah, those are just guys on the street. These are just kids. These kids are out of kids are either fucking mine bro these kids are getting close oh my god these are just dorks yeah where is this it was in wherever it happened and outside of San Antonio oh my god that's Texas people very close to you these wild dorks chasing after a baboon that thing will fuck you up like fuck you up either clearly people who have never seen a possum
Starting point is 02:18:27 yeah they used to see them in the zoo they used to see them in the fucking zoo a baboon is way vicious but a possum oh my goodness they have covid masks on they're not even the good covid masks on
Starting point is 02:18:41 those gloves aren't going to do jack shit. What are you going to do with those gloves? What the fuck are you going to do? Unless that thing just is used to people handling it. Good luck. Good luck. You can't even pick up a feral cat. You ever try picking up a feral cat?
Starting point is 02:18:59 How the fuck do you think you can handle a 50-pound baboon? Bitch. There's a a fan oh man that's great that's way more than 50 they they about
Starting point is 02:19:10 80 pounds the big males how much a normal baboon weigh like I would say they're like 50
Starting point is 02:19:17 60 pounds cause my they look to me like a Belgian Malinois size my cane corso is a big dog that's a big dog
Starting point is 02:19:24 that's a big ass what that's what you got 120 pound dog 140 140 pounds i had a mastiff that was that big a regency master he was 140 pounds you know harry's lost like seven pounds that okay 88 pounds for a big one wow wow oh my god What is this one? That's the kind that gets that big. Oh, it's a specific kind that gets that big. They didn't say what kind those were. There's a psychologist named Robert Sapolsky.
Starting point is 02:19:53 He is a psychologist, right? Is that what his profession is? Sure. Who studied baboons. And a fascinating thing happened. With this troop of baboons, They were dominated by the alpha males. And the alpha males always got first access to the food. Was there a researcher and author?
Starting point is 02:20:10 Neuroendocrinology researcher and author. Professor of biology. The alpha males always had access to the food first. Well, they were getting food from a dumpster that this resort was using. And the alpha males had access to it first, and one of the dumpsters was filled with bad food, tainted food. And these baboons ate it and died.
Starting point is 02:20:33 So the ones that ate it first were the ones who had access to it, and they died, and the alphas were all dead. So when the alphas were all dead, in the absence of the alphas being dead, the betas never assumed an alpha position. They just got along with each other and it lasted for like I think quite a while it lasted for years I believe until probably they went back to their normal
Starting point is 02:20:55 way of behaving but for a long fucking time they behaved in a way where there was like there was no brutish cuz like in those packs of baboons, they're fucking horrible to each other. Maybe they didn't think they were waiting on him to come back. And he was like, hey, don't nobody do nothing because you know they're going to come back and beat us. Right. Don't pretend you're the boss. And then somebody came and said, I don't think they're coming back. And then they started with the bullshit.
Starting point is 02:21:26 Bitch, yeah, I said it. Jamie, see, you can find that study. Bitch, you can't eat first. Did you find it? So when the top-ranking males died off in the mid-1980s, aggression by the new top baboons dropped dramatically, with most aggression occurring between baboons of similar rank and little that directed towards lower-status males
Starting point is 02:21:48 and none at all directed at females. Troop members also spent a large percentage of time grooming, sat closer together than in the past, and hormone samples indicated that the lowest-status males experienced less stress than underlings and other baboon troops. More interestingly, these effects persisted at least through the late 90s. So wow, it's more than 10 years. Well after the original kinder males had died off. Not only that, when the adolescent males who grew up in other troops joined the garbage dump troop,
Starting point is 02:22:20 they too engaged in less aggressive behavior than in other baboon troops. As Sapolsky put it, we don't understand the mechanism of transmission, but the jerky new guys are obviously learning. We don't do things like that around here. So at least by baboon standards, the garbage dump troop developed and enforced what I would call a no asshole rule. Isn't that amazing? Oh, this is prison oh yeah because you can come in see i see what happened now the other guys was like no you see what happened to the mama end up in the dumps and so we're not gonna go that route
Starting point is 02:23:01 so that that's basically what happened they they they saw hey man these other guys gone they did we don't and then you see they say that the other guys who were were um less stressed they they was they was getting their ass whooped their fur they're getting slapped around they're getting slapped around so when the kinder males like hey man look let's just have a peaceful situation we ain't gotta do all that, man. You can come talk to me. I'm not slapping nobody. When you're on what we call a Cadillac tank,
Starting point is 02:23:35 that's what a Cadillac tank is, where you come over there and everybody come and lay it down to you. Look, man, we ain't with with nothing that bullshit over here man all that whatever you're gonna do all that stealing and whatever you have you got moved over here it's Cadillac over here they let you know because it's it's you don't want none of that wild shit over you don't lose your tv you don't lose your coffee pot you don't want to be locked down you don't be none of that shit you amen you need some come tell somebody you ain't gotta steal nothing You know yeah, this is a colleague. It's a convict tank basically you know where people
Starting point is 02:24:11 Understand how to do their time you want to do your time less stressful I don't think people would appreciate like the average person thinks about a jail. They don't think of that. I think they probably wouldn't They probably wouldn't imagine that that would be the case but that makes sense you you know what's weird about jail i don't understand why jail is so brutal when you're not in when you're not found guilty yet right because when i went to jail i'm gonna talk about it in the special but when i went my whole thought was how to get out you don't even eat for the first four days you're saying you don't eat nothing like they be bringing food and then you like no i mean y'all gonna have that shit because you thinking i'm getting out so i'm not i'm not i'm not acclimating myself to prison
Starting point is 02:24:55 food i'm not even eating none of this shit none of this jailed food right and then after like four days you don't get out then you're like well hey man let me get my juice y'all haven't had the rest of this yet then it's like day number seven you like now you're eating your all your food because you didn't you know you're not getting out just yet but you're still going to court i wouldn't be thinking about doing nothing wild because i'm still trying to fight my case and i don't think most people don't even think like that. I don't know what they be thinking, but it be some wild shit on their brains, especially when they there for a long period of time. I've been in here a year fighting this murder case.
Starting point is 02:25:41 Okay, but are you guilty? So why are you acting like you're guilty? You in here doing all the rest of this nonsense. I think it's a stigma that comes along with prison that people try to act out when they go there. But I've been in other jails where it's not like that. It's like, hey, man, I'm in here trying to get out. And I was there on traffic tickets,
Starting point is 02:26:11 but it was still like even if you go to Harris County on a traffic ticket, it's like you're in full-fledged. Like, why am I even around anybody who could? What you in here for, capital murder? Why am I even in here with you and i'm in here on traffic tickets like we don't we're not supposed to run into each other right shit and it's just crazy like you're not even supposed to run into those people until you go to prison because jail and prison are actually supposed to be different now I understand you getting a you don't want
Starting point is 02:26:45 to be in either place but I don't understand I don't understand the animalistic behavior that jumps off as soon as you get locked up it is and it's only with a certain ethnic group do you think they think they have to do it that way because they've been told that that's what it's like when you get in that's the stigma that comes. Even though I was somewhere that I knew that was bad, I didn't go into it with the, I'm going to be bad too. No, man, I'm
Starting point is 02:27:11 already, if somebody try me, then I'm going to defend myself. But other than that, I'm not going in there trying to bother nobody. But see, that's the whole thing. I've never started a fight though too. I have to remember that by myself. I've never started a fight though too I had to remember that by myself I've never started to fight even though I can fight when I can fight well I just never
Starting point is 02:27:30 started one but if you start one with me then you figure out like oh shit he can actually fight yeah I just don't start them and I think most people that can fight don't start them. Because it becomes a, I'm not the same person in combat that I am as normal. Like, this shit is different with me. And I'm locked in. The scary thing is people who can fight, who like to fight, who do go looking for fights. And those are real, too. Those are real, too. So just don't't fight it's the dumbest thing to do especially you want to let me want to fight learn how to fight go to a gym you can get
Starting point is 02:28:12 plenty of fighting in the gym you don't even have to have a fight it was most sparring matches are basically fights yes and in and you did I didn't tell you but people know I did I tell you when I when I spar with Todd manual I didn't tell you but people know did I tell you when I sparred with Todd Manuel I don't know man Todd Manuel beat the shit out of me like
Starting point is 02:28:30 and I was fucking with him like I came in and fucking with him like he had just fought Victor Ortiz or some shit like that and I just walked in
Starting point is 02:28:37 fucking with him and I just got in the ring with him like what's up Todd shit he ain't here talking shit Todd
Starting point is 02:28:44 Todd Todd Todd took it to my ass too like but people know I can fight but Todd was on one
Starting point is 02:28:51 Todd took it to my ass and it and it was that first two body shots that I was just and I was fucking with him and
Starting point is 02:28:59 I was like oh shit yeah there's good and then there's professional good right and then there's high level professional good yeah And then there's high-level professional good. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:07 High-level professional good is fucking scary if it's boxing. Yeah, like, Gotti just found that out about Floyd. Like, that shit is different. Now, you can say a lot about Floyd, but once them gloves get on and you across from him, oh, that shit's different. He's still very, very fast. Very fast. And that shit hurt. Oh, yeah. All that shit hurt. Oh, yeah, of course. and it should hurt oh yeah all that shit hurt yeah
Starting point is 02:29:27 of course like even if he playing that shit hurt yeah i mean he fought logan paul logan paul weighs 200 plus pounds and he turned the shit out logan paul neck like he's crazy like wow and then he and i think he held him up like hey man don't fall because you'll mess the money up i think he's just too big i think lo Logan was just too big. If they were the same size, I think Floyd would have knocked him out. But Logan was so big. He was so much bigger than him. But them shots though. It's so
Starting point is 02:29:53 crazy to see a guy who is the best boxer of all time having a fight with this super athletic gigantic YouTube kid. I mean, look at the size difference. It's insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:10 It's insane. It was like when he wrestled. Who the fuck else is that? It's like when he wrestled with the big stuff. Yeah, pro wrestling. But at least that's theatrical, right? This is an actual fight. He turnt his neck. Even when he fought. At least that's theatrical, right? This is an actual fight. He turfed his neck. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:28 Even when he fought... Look at the big show. When he fought Canelo. With boxing gloves on. Yeah. When he fought Canelo, Canelo's a big-ass dude. Yeah, Canelo's a big-ass dude. But he was very smart with that Canelo fight. He made Canelo drop down to, like, 152.
Starting point is 02:30:41 I think that's what the weight limit was. Canelo, you know, he really had to drain himself to get down there and also like you watch canelo before floyd and after floyd and you just go oh he learned he his head movement is superb now canelo gets in there this this fights of his where you see his head movement you're like oh my oh my God. I just saw his last fight with Canelo, and he big. Yeah, he's a big fella. Well, you know, he's doing 175 now when he knocked out Kovalev. Yeah, so he got real small for that fight.
Starting point is 02:31:15 You know, Floyd is smart, man. Like see Manny Pacquiao, he waited and waited and waited and waited and waited until after Marquez knocked out Manny, and he's like, okay, we can fight now. I think that was mostly promoters. These promoters just be. They're brutal. They just are. And then everybody blamed the fight.
Starting point is 02:31:33 Oh, you didn't want to fight him. No, they couldn't get this shit together. The most disappointing one to me is Tyson Fury and Usyk. I was really looking forward to that fight. That was an interesting one to me because Tyson Fury is the biggest in the division. He's got insane skills. He's fucking huge. He's 6'9".
Starting point is 02:31:52 He's arguably one of the greatest heavyweight boxers ever. And Usyk is this phenom of technique and footwork and movement. But how is he going to fuck with that 6'9 guy? How is he going to fuck with that jab? Can you even get close to him? He's so much bigger than him.
Starting point is 02:32:08 It's a fascinating fight. And they fucked it. Even gave him 70-30. Tyson said he wanted 70-30, which, you know, makes kind of sense. He's the big star. Usyk even said yes, and they still couldn't get the deal done. Still couldn't get it done. I don't know what the fuck happened.
Starting point is 02:32:24 I know this Crawford and Earl Spence is going to be. Thank God they got that done now. Because I was worried that they were going to wait until Terrence was older. You know? Because it's like, if it happens two years from now, what is he, 36 now? Yeah. Yeah. That's a fucking good fight.
Starting point is 02:32:43 Regis. Regis. Rugaloo. is coming up. Terrence Crawford is the slickest switch hitter since Marvin Hagler. Yeah. And this is going to be a problem. This is a hell of a fight. 28-0 versus 39-0.
Starting point is 02:32:59 That is wild. And I think that, oh, what you predicting in this fight? I would never predict a fight like this. Because a fight like this to me is a let's see. Let's see. It's definitely a let's see. It's a let's see because they're both at the top of the top in boxing today.
Starting point is 02:33:18 The pinnacle. Both of them. Both of them had their strength. This is one of them let's see. I didn't think Ryan... I didn't think Tank and Ryan was just going to be this electric fight. I just didn't. I just thought Tank was just too much. Yeah, I thought he was going to be too much, too. It's just he has too many tools, and his style is so weird.
Starting point is 02:33:38 His style is so weird. He's so conservative in the beginning. He's not throwing hardly any punches. But the fucking threat of danger always looms. It's terrifying. That's the problem with him. He's like, you could be doing all that. He just, you're like, oh, my God, if he hit me with any of this shit.
Starting point is 02:33:57 You're still throwing very tentatively. If I throw this jab at you, I need to get this shit right back. I need this jab at him, I need to get this shit right back. Right back. I need this shit. Do you understand how fast I need to get this jab back to my goddamn face? I need this. And people won't even throw it all the way out there because they need to get, like, I can't give, because he's already up under you. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:21 And that's the problem, that you see that he's up under you, and you're like, oh, shit. If I throw any goddamn thing yeah he gonna turn he gonna blow my shit up like straight from the floor yeah with crazy speed it's it's like it's like Tyson yeah it's more like people don, like, this shit is like a small Tyson. Yeah. Because Tyson was so leveled up under air. Like, as soon as you throw anything out there, like, if I throw my jab out there, I got to have my knees bent. And then she got to, I need my elbow to guard my goddamn bread basket, my liver, my kidney, all this shit.
Starting point is 02:35:04 Because, ah, it's just bad. It's bad news. It's just bad news. Terrifying. The consequences of any mistake are so big. The consequences. Pull up a Gervonta Davis highlight. Let's watch some highlights.
Starting point is 02:35:17 KO highlights. As soon as you open any of that shit up, he is, ha! How many fights does he even have that have gone to decision? It's only a couple. It's one when he broke his hand. It was one fight where he won a decision where he broke his hand. That might be the only one that went to a decision.
Starting point is 02:35:35 The only guy who I think has a higher knockout ratio that's a champion is Archer Betterbeev. That's the light heavyweight guy. Count two. So he's got one in 2014.
Starting point is 02:35:49 And then one up here, Isaac Cruz. 27-0. And all of them except two are by knockout. Or excuse me, 29-0. And all of them except two are by knockout 27 knockouts look at that like look at that that shit that shit oh my god and it's skillful right up under right up under your shit that fucking uppercut is so nasty i'm right here and soon as you throw something out there that i think is okay uh uh-huh, you finna go.
Starting point is 02:36:28 Oh, look at that right hook, man. Right on the tempo. It's just he hits people different. Watch it. Boom. Right over. Right over. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:36:36 The speed and the accuracy. It's the power, and it's also the technique. It's like everything is there. It's not like he's just a slugger. He's a scientist. He's like everything is there. It's not like he's just a slugger. He's like a scientist. He's like dissecting in there. He's downloading data and then applying it and moving
Starting point is 02:36:54 on you in a way you never had anybody move on you before. Look at that body shot. Oh my God. He will not let you breathe. Watch that. You throw yours and I'm going to throw mine. I'm already up under you. And when you look at him, I mean, he looks super athletic and fit,
Starting point is 02:37:13 but it doesn't look any different than a normal super athletic fit guy. You know what I'm saying? Very doable. Yeah. It's not like some weirdness about his body that you see like if you see like Yoel Romero He's so ridiculously huge when he knocks people out. It kind of makes sense But Gervonta looks like a regular guy But he hits like a fucking Mack truck that is the rolly fight look at this reach
Starting point is 02:37:39 Oh, I mean look at that left hand Play that again. Because that was crazy. Boom. I mean, it's picture perfect. He's coming in and he catches him coming in with a perfect left hand. Look at this. Boom. You don't even.
Starting point is 02:37:58 I mean, some dudes from a shot like that, they're never the same guy. He ain't the same. Yeah. That shoe is leaning. Boom. I mean, incredible. Look at this shot. Yeah, he's so dangerous, man.
Starting point is 02:38:17 He's so dangerous. It's like that body shot is what set all that up. Because he is. What's the guy that went to his corner and's like man I can't see the guy before Ryan the guy went to his corner after after the round is like I can't see I don't know what which guy it was I don't think it's him but either way I mean this is how hard this kid hits it's insane they he's on like some crazy situation where the judge sent him to jail because he was under house arrest but they
Starting point is 02:38:52 put him in house arrest in a house and it was too small for his security detail his family and his kids and so he got a suite at the four seasons and his house got robbed, apparently. And his house got robbed while he was in prison. That's insane. It's insane. He's so fucking talented. There's so many fights for him now. After the Devin Haney-Lomachenko fight and Shakur Stevenson, that division is just stacked. What'd you think about that Lomachenko fight?
Starting point is 02:39:23 I didn't agree with it. It's close, though. If you go back and watch it, it's a close fight. But I think Lomachenko fight? I didn't agree with it. It's close, though. If you go back and watch it, it's a close fight. But I think Lomachenko edged him. I think Lomachenko should have got the decision. He was pushing it. He definitely had more significant moments. But Haney did land some very good body shots.
Starting point is 02:39:42 And showed his heart because he got pushed further than anybody's ever pushed him before. He's looking at what he did to Kambosis, two fights in a row. I mean, he boxed Kambosis' face off. I had to go back. Yeah, this guy. Hector Luis Garcia. That guy. Yeah, he's like, I can't see. He goes, I didn't know where I was.
Starting point is 02:39:55 That's how hard he is. It's crazy. I had to go back and hang in Lomachinko fight to go to. Because I saw, I saw watching in five, in the fifth. So I had to go back and see, was it, what type of damage did he do in the first four?
Starting point is 02:40:14 And I say, well, I guess they just go on these body shots, because Lomachico, from round seven to the end, I thought that he was winning this fight. Yeah, I thought he was winning too. When I watched it without the sound, I thought that he,
Starting point is 02:40:32 clearly eight, nine, and ten were clear Lomachenko rounds for me. Eight, nine, and ten. me eight nine and ten and then 11 and 12 it was a toss-up because of the vicious body shots but he did land some good what are those body shots worth if you if you look at like a gervonta davis body shot knockout blow it's obviously worth a lot but people tend to think that hitting someone in the face is generally scores more than hitting someone in the body. I don't know if that's fair. It was a very, very good fight. It was a good fight.
Starting point is 02:41:10 The problem with a fight like that is when the decision comes and most people don't agree with it, it kind of, like, taints the effort. You know, it's like everybody, like, looks at Haney like he did something wrong, and he fought an amazing fight against a guy who's a ghost. Lomachenko's a ghost. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:26 I mean, what he does in there is wild shit, man. And he's a hard-hitting... And he pushed the fight. He pushed the fight. He pushed the fight. Yeah, he definitely pushed the fight and he definitely did some wild shit,
Starting point is 02:41:38 but he definitely got hit with some hard body shots. It was a good fight, a very, very good fight. I think the fact that he was trying to absorb the body shots with coming off a good fight, a very, very good fight. I think the fact that he was trying to absorb the body shots with coming off his feet.
Starting point is 02:41:49 Yeah. And it just don't look good. It looked like somebody knocking you off your feet. Right. Instead of you... You're jumping with it. Yeah, you're jumping with it,
Starting point is 02:41:59 trying to take the impact off, and the shit's still hitting you. Mm-hmm. And if he would've stayed down, I think it wouldn't have looked this bad, but shit, if he would have stayed down i think it wouldn't have looked as bad but shit if you would have stayed down would you have went down right you he's doing the right thing you gotta you gotta go with those shots especially devin haney devin haney's a big lightweight he's big he's big and he hits very hard and he's so skillful his jab is top notch when in the combosis fight i was I was, Combosus is good, man.
Starting point is 02:42:25 What he did to Teofimo when he dropped him in the first round, I was like, woo, he's fast. Haney's jab looked crazy. It looked crazy, but he also technically looked so good. Everything he did was so good. Everything he did was, he's so well-schooled. Yeah, he is. That was good.
Starting point is 02:42:46 That Loma Chico, I just want to see them fight more. But I think Crawford is going to. That is a big one. I think Crawford's going to pull it out. Well, it's going to be interesting to see. To me, that is a who the fuck knows. I'm excited to see it Errol Spence
Starting point is 02:43:05 is a bad man he's a bad man he hits hard I think he's underrated by a lot of people for some reason but Bud is
Starting point is 02:43:13 that's another level but this is the highest level both of them have experienced I think like who I mean who do you think out of people that Bud
Starting point is 02:43:22 has beaten he's beaten everybody's fought but who do you think is on the level of Earl? Arguably, this is the best fighter he's faced. Yeah, I think this is the best fighter he's faced. I think this is the best fighter he's faced. And there's no disrespect to any of the other fighters he's faced.
Starting point is 02:43:36 Yeah, no disrespect to them. But I think right now Earl is like at, he's in that state, that Sugar Ray Leonard in his prime stage. You know, there's a stage where a fighter is so elite that you're like, I can't wait to see what happens when he fights Roberto Duran. I can't wait. There's this level where you're like, how good is he? I just saw Sugar Ray at his benefit for diabetes. And Sugar Ray looks fit right now.
Starting point is 02:44:01 He works out on Instagram. Sugar Ray looks like he ready right now. You can see his workouts.. He works out on Instagram. Cigarette looks like he ready right now. You can see his workouts. He puts workouts up on Instagram. And you know, when you run into a fighter and you don't realize how small they are, certain fighters, and then the other ones, you don't realize how big they are.
Starting point is 02:44:19 I ran into Sugar Shane Mosley at the same benefit, and he's smaller than me but he's rocked up like up on his sweater with so many knots. It's like a pillowcase full of shoes. It's like you just
Starting point is 02:44:35 all these rocks. I'm like, hey man, Sugar Shane, you good? What's up brother, you good? I'm like,
Starting point is 02:44:40 good lord, you strong man. Like why? Right now, and then Benoit Hopkins was there in a suit, real tailored. I was like, hey, champ, how you doing? Hands was just stone. Yo, I'm good, brother.
Starting point is 02:44:51 But talking soft. He was like, hey, brother, you good? But Sugar Ray, man. Sugar Ray. It's Sugar Ray. Still working out. And he's. Look at him.
Starting point is 02:45:01 Oh. All that hurt. It's like at Midtown, at Main Street Boxing Gym, right? It's this man. He is 79, and he comes there every day. He cleans up in the gym. And try it. Try it.
Starting point is 02:45:21 Think that you're going to get a win off of him. Hey, man, let's box around this is gonna be the worst day of your whole entire life because I don't know I don't know
Starting point is 02:45:30 who he used to fight what he was doing with that bell call it is a problem like hey man you know I just
Starting point is 02:45:41 me and you just talk like we friends like this shit is bad really yes wow Hey, man, you know I just, me and you just talk like we friends. Do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do. Like, this shit is bad. Really? Yes. Wow.
Starting point is 02:45:52 And it's, man, it is a melee. Did you see George Foreman hitting the heavy bag at 74? Oh, my God. Did you see that? Yes, I saw it on the internet. Find that. It is insane. Insane. Do that.
Starting point is 02:46:04 Do that. Do that. Insane. And then, do that Mike Tyson working out oh my god does his trainer does it not look like he's killing him his trainer is Rafael Cordero he's a legendary MMA trainer he runs Kings MMA in
Starting point is 02:46:20 California Rafael Cordero is the man it's like them blows are coming so close. And he's wearing a body suit and eating those body shots. Fuck that. And then also you got that just knowing Mike Tyson has boxing gloves and he's in front of you. And somehow or another you're in a fucking ring with him and he's moving towards you. Like, what does that feel like?
Starting point is 02:46:43 But check this out. Look at George. And that's the big one. Yeah, give me that feel like? But check this out. Look at George. And that's the big one. Yeah, give me some volume on this because we got to hear this. You still got that power? Yes. Oh, watch it. Watch it.
Starting point is 02:46:54 What happened to the volume? I don't know. Oh, we got to hear it. Oh, you got to hear it. Oh, this doesn't mean anything. Let's fix that. Let's fix it. Whatever it is.
Starting point is 02:47:02 And that's that. I'm quite sure you have been on the biggest bag in the gym. Yeah, that's a's fix it. Whatever it is. And that's that. I'm quite sure you have been on the biggest bag in the gym. Yeah, that's a big ass bag. And that shit don't move. Like you... And the bag not moving. Jamie, what's going on? I have no idea. Can we try... No, it's not even
Starting point is 02:47:17 getting to my computer. I'm trying to figure out why. Oh, okay. But it did before. No, that was on my laptop. Oh, so there's something wrong with the connection to the computer. There it is. Here it is. Okay knocked his head off. But it did before. No, that was on my laptop. Oh. Oh, so there's something wrong with the connection to the computer. There it is. Here it is. Okay, back it up.
Starting point is 02:47:31 Back it up so we can see it again. My dad still got it. Here it is. You still got that power, dad? Power doesn't age. Are you ready? Let me see what you got, champ. Sounds acted out. Let's go, champ? Sounds acted out.
Starting point is 02:47:46 Let's go, champ. Let's go. Watch the head come off. Bro. Look at this. Look at this left. Dude, and that's one of the things that George Foreman used to practice. Go to young George Foreman hitting the heavy bag.
Starting point is 02:48:13 George Foreman, like, he would hit the heavy bag different than a lot of people would. One of the things that he would do is he would always just practice walloping the heavy bag. Just stand in front of it, full blast, winging punches. Not like setting things up, moving around. No setup. No, no, no no what all right we're back um see if you can find uh young george foreman hitting the heavy bag why did he have his his face on that bag joy's coming around the other dudes because he's never had george foreman hit the heavy bag with him before. It's hard to hold the heavy bag without doing that, though. Yeah, here it is.
Starting point is 02:48:47 Look at this. So this is what he did a lot of this. The volume's dead again? Here it goes. I got it now. Look at this. But who hits the heavy bag like this? He's just winging punches.
Starting point is 02:49:10 He got his hand out the way. Yeah. Look at the dents. Yeah, I mean, even the way he does it, he's just throwing power shot after power shot. And that's just to break you. Yeah, I mean, and not even really bending that much at the knees. That's what's crazy.
Starting point is 02:49:35 The kind of power this dude had. Look at this. I mean, this is ferocious. Ferocious. When he gets his legs into it. My God. This thing, Ali was taking it. Took it all.
Starting point is 02:49:54 Took it all. Dodge him. I want you to pull up George Foreman knocks out Joe Frazier. Oh, it was crazy. I thought Frazier was going to die. He knocked him off his feet. That was a crazy one because that was when Joe Frazier just beat Muhammad Ali. Yep.
Starting point is 02:50:12 And then you see what Foreman does to Frazier, and everybody thought that Foreman was going to crush Ali, and they were scared. Because it was like this is a real – it's like this is the first super heavyweight or something. Yeah. So this is the second round. So this is when he's already hurt, I believe. I don't remember how many rounds it was. Oh, let's try to replay this.
Starting point is 02:50:33 So this was like he had hurt him the round before. Yeah, here it is. Watch this. It's just crazy. The power. Even the way he's boxing, he boxes the way he hit the bag. Look. Yep.
Starting point is 02:50:44 It's just the power is so extraordinary that if he catches you at all, he thumps you with that jab and then just swings at you. And he hits you. Oh, look at that uppercut. Oh, my God. Look at that right hand. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:51:04 Look at that uppercut. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Look at that uppercut. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. So the round ends. He doesn't know where he is. Now the round is about to end. Two knockdowns in the first round of Joe Frazier.
Starting point is 02:51:24 Down again. No saving by the bell. So he gets up and he goes back to his corner. Now, this is what's amazing, that they didn't stop this fight. They didn't. That's amazing that his corner didn't say, that's it. That's it, champ. That's it, champ.
Starting point is 02:51:40 Because they know. Because he's a warrior and you can't let him go out there. But this is a different time, too. This is a different time, too. This is a different time, too. I think today they would have stopped the fight. Yeah, they probably would have stopped this. I think today they would have stopped the fight. Especially knowing this type of power that's coming.
Starting point is 02:51:52 So this is afterwards. What's going on? What's he warning them about? Oh, my God. Oh, my God, this power. Here it is. Boom. And see, the problem is you can't even block that with your gloves.
Starting point is 02:52:14 No, it doesn't help. There's too much power. It's so much power. And it's skillful, too. It's like he wings those to the body, but he's also skillful with the jab. Oh, look at that left. Oh, my God. Frazier couldn't even throw his.
Starting point is 02:52:28 For the fifth time he's down. This is crazy, this fight. And he's still. Boom, boom, boom. I mean, what a warrior Joe Frazier was. And that leg, he gone, too. Yeah, oh, for sure. But he's still in there.
Starting point is 02:52:47 Oh, look at that. Oh, man. Oh, my God, it's not stopped. Okay, they're stopping the fight. Crazy. It is over. Crazy. It was crazy. And Ali's sitting on the couch like, here's my shot.
Starting point is 02:53:13 This is who I want to fight. Do you know that Hunter S. Thompson flew to Africa to watch that fight and was so scared that Ali was going to get killed? And so he didn't want to see Ali get the fuck beaten out of him so he stayed in his hotel he stayed in his hotel and he got drunk and he floated around on the pool on a pool floaty and then afterwards he found out that Ali once we'd flown him to Africa to do to
Starting point is 02:53:39 write to report Rolling Stone flew that's crazy he just completely failed didn't go there at all he's like no i'm not put on a mix a nixon mask and he's floating around on a pool it's like video of him doing it because i don't want to see because he doesn't want to see his hero get killed everybody thought he was going to get killed everybody saw that fight and they thought he was going to get killed they said there's no way how is he going to beat him to get killed they said there's no way how is he going to beat him oh here we go but i mean the video's over yeah but it's cool um but my god man that era that era of boxing the ha the haggler is still haggler and tommy hitman herns yeah they it's like they hate it it's like whatever went
Starting point is 02:54:20 on between them like hey man i'm not coming to box you. I am coming to a fight with gloves on. This is the only thing that's, it's like, you thought that Hagler was out of there. And Hagler's like,
Starting point is 02:54:32 nope, nope, I'm going to kill him. Do you understand? Like, I don't care about being down. Well, he didn't get knocked down.
Starting point is 02:54:40 It's like, he was in the, like I'm saying, down in the, behind in the fight. He's like, I'm not concerned about none of that. Hey, man, second round, we going to see about it.
Starting point is 02:54:50 It was, that first round was crazy. Crazy. Crazy. And Hearns broke his hand in the first round. Yeah. Crazy. And Hearns cracked him a few times. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:55:02 He was like. But Hagler had a legendary chin. Legendary chin. And that's why he hated how Ali beat him. I mean, how Sugar Ray beat him with the pity pat shots.
Starting point is 02:55:14 Yeah. It's like, you can see him looking at him like, what the fuck are you doing with this pity pat shit that's lasting a second day? Like, yo man,
Starting point is 02:55:22 what the fuck is he doing? Like, why does he keep massaging my arms? Like, it was terrible. That wasn't the best, but I do respect the fact that he left.
Starting point is 02:55:32 He's like, that's it. I'm gonna go to Italy and be a movie star. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done, yeah. There's only a few guys
Starting point is 02:55:38 that have ever just said, that's it, and never came back. Did you see anybody better than Peniel Whitaker? No. No. Never. No.
Starting point is 02:55:46 Never. Not defensively. He was a fucking genius. He was a genius. He got robbed against Chavez. Yeah, he did. Damn sure. If I did a movie,
Starting point is 02:55:58 I know a movie that I want to do about me coaching girls summer league, but if I did a movie, I would want to play Peniel Whitaker. Oh, my God. Sweet Pea is like, that's one of the most phenomenal boxers. He was so creative. Oh, man. He was so slick in there.
Starting point is 02:56:11 Like, his movement was so, like, see if you find a Peniel Whitaker highlight. He was a bummer man when he died. His footwork was phenomenal. Yeah, he was a part of that crew that was like Meldrick Taylor, Mark Breland. Remember those guys? Yeah. Dude. But he was a part of that crew that was like Meldrick Taylor, Mark Breland. Remember those guys? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:26 Dude. But he was just so slick. Just so hard to hit. Oh, this is him and Chavez. Oh, the highlight's a part of it. Look at that. I mean, come on, man. I know.
Starting point is 02:56:41 That was a real bummer, man. That decision. Most people disagreed with that decision. He was so slick. And hit so hard. Oh, so accurate, too. Look at that. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 02:56:55 He was amazing. Yeah, he was an amazing boxer. That whole era. Yeah, that was a lot of great fighters. Look at this. Look at this. De La Hoya he said
Starting point is 02:57:06 look at that that's amazing look how slick that is I mean come on man who fucking moves better than that guy look at that
Starting point is 02:57:15 that's insane nothing you get nothing and it's Oscar De La Hoya I mean it's not a regular dude it's the fucking golden boy yeah look at this it's saying he literally dropped down to his butt I mean he's so slick
Starting point is 02:57:37 like nobody else man look at this rolling shots. It's like as the shots are coming at him, I mean, amazing. Slip, slip, and then slip, miss, then boom. Let me give you one on the way out. Nothing is touching him. It's insane. Look at him. I mean, this is incredible. That's how good he was, man.
Starting point is 02:58:01 He was so fucking good. So good. So was Magic Taylor in the early days. Yeah, Magic Taylor. man he was so good so good so was meljor taylor in the early days magic taylor alger taylor was winning against leo cesar chavez until he landed one punch that one punch in the last round and then richard steele stops the fight with two seconds to go richard steele that was crazy it's like um when you when the best ever do it, you watch Kid dropped. Roy.
Starting point is 02:58:27 Man. Yeah. Man. He was so. Then he started rapping. And Roy Jones Jr. started rapping. It was over. I was like, damn.
Starting point is 02:58:40 I said, man, he got to stay with boxing, man. He started playing basketball and doing everything else. And then he get rocked. Tarver was fucking good. Tarver was fucking good. Remember when Tarver talked to him right before the fight? Got any excuses tonight, Roy? Any excuses tonight, Roy?
Starting point is 02:58:57 I'm like, whoa! Tarver was a... You seen it. It's gonna be a problem. It's gonna be a problem. It's going to be a problem. Tarver was competitive at heavyweight. He went all the way up to heavyweight. Tarver was a good fighter. Very good fighter.
Starting point is 02:59:11 Very good fighter. Very difficult to deal with. And when he knocked out Roy, everybody was like, holy shit. And then Glenn Johnson did it, and that was a scary one. Remember that one? Yeah, his mitt was up a pretty long time. They were sweeping and everything those scare me those kind of scare me when someone stiffens up yeah and to have it
Starting point is 02:59:31 happen after the tarver ko that's those are the kinds that scare me because sometimes a fighter is still recovering from the initial knockout and they've just convinced themselves they're okay and they're not ready no man they you, that's why Manny Pacquiao, after Marquez knocked him out, Freddie Roach said, I want you to take a year off. A whole year. You want to still work together?
Starting point is 02:59:52 I want you to take a year off. That was a bad knockout. That was. That was a bad one. That was a bad one. Marquez is a bad man. He's a bad man. And shit.
Starting point is 03:00:03 It looked like he was on all the good stuff. It looks like his piss would melt the styrofoam cup. I want everything that I'm not supposed to be taking. Yeah, bro. Because this shit is, I'm ready. Bro, if they drug tested him, it would ding like a carnival bell. Ding! Like one of them Bugs Bunny ones where you get the big mallet.
Starting point is 03:00:29 Ding! It juiced up. He was working with the guy that Pacquiao used to work with. That juicer Pacquiao. Yeah. The guy, the Pacquiao, the strength and conditioning guy, which is always the juice guys. Yeah, always the juice guys.
Starting point is 03:00:45 Always the juice guys. Those are the guys. They're 70 and they got abs. I was just eating this banana. I didn't know what was in it. He ate my food. I had no idea what was in it. Canelo said he got some tainted beef.
Starting point is 03:01:00 You know, how'd you get the fucking steroids in your body? Tacos, bro. I just had a tainted taco. It is sprinkling on the taco. Like, this shit is crazy. Frank Mir, who is a UFC heavyweight champion, look at that. Yeah, he was Jack City, son. Jack City.
Starting point is 03:01:18 And that's at the weigh-ins. And they had real weigh-ins back then. So he looked a lot bigger the next day. So those weigh-ins, like the UFC, we don't have real weigh-ins. We have real weigh-ins back then. So he looked a lot bigger the next day. So those weigh-ins, like the UFC, we don't have real weigh-ins. We have real weigh-ins, but when the public sees it, it's a ceremonial weigh-in. And it's oftentimes many hours after the first weigh-in. So what happens is they weigh in at like 8, 10 in the morning,
Starting point is 03:01:37 and then they get to rehydrate until 4 p.m. when they get back on the scale for the ceremonial weigh-ins. They've been drinking water and electrolyzed all day and eating all day. So they might be like 10 pounds for the ceremonial weigh-ins. They've been drinking water and electrolyzed all day and eating all day. So they might be like 10 pounds heavier. Like no bullshit by then. And then they look good. So Marquez on fight night, though, show him Marquez versus Pacquiao.
Starting point is 03:01:55 Was it three? It was the third one, right? That was the last one. On fight night. It was four. That's right. It was four. And they wanted to have a fifth one.
Starting point is 03:02:03 And Marquez was like, no, I'm good. I got it. I got this one. Sorry. four. And they wanted to have a fifth one. And Marquez was like, no, I'm good. I got it. I got this one. Sorry. You got me, but I got you, motherfucker. I got you where it counts. I mean, he was jack city, son. Man, look at his arm.
Starting point is 03:02:15 Yeah, man. He was like fucking jacked. And he was doing a lot of crazy workouts for that fight, too. A lot of dumbbell shit. Oh, my God. Look at the fucking power behind that shot. My God. Look at Manny. Manny was like, God damn. Oh my god, look at the fucking power behind that shot my god Look at that. Look at the power behind that shot Pac-man was getting packed and then when he literally like that's it right there Jamie. That's it
Starting point is 03:02:41 Yeah, he literally ran into that shot looking to land a shot and marquez timed it perfectly to watch a great like him get flatlined is always so strange yeah you know like you you're so used to seeing him doing that to like ricky hatton right right yeah that fight holy yeah ricky hadn't got it. Ah, Ricky hadn't got it. He got it from Pacquiao. He got it from Pacquiao. And then when he got it from Floyd, he ran into the buckle. I'm like, man, what the hell is going on?
Starting point is 03:03:14 Floyd got him first, right? Yeah, Floyd got him first, and then Manny leveled him. Yeah, Manny flatlined him. Oh, my God. Look at the power behind this. Watch this. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Look at the power behind this. Watch this. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 03:03:27 I mean, the way his head snaps back and he falls. Look at this lady over here. Look at her. It's like, oh, my God, he's dead. Yeah, look at her. Look at him. He's like, yeah. Viva Mexico.
Starting point is 03:03:38 He has zero concern. Look at him. I mean, Pacquiao is out cold. Is he down? Is he down? Is he down? Yeah. Okay. Hey!
Starting point is 03:03:50 He didn't give a shit. I mean that's like a gunshot wound. Look at this. Boom! Boom! I mean it is the perfect punch. That might be one of the great, I mean it is, one of the greatest punches, one punch knockouts in the history of boxing.
Starting point is 03:04:02 With the consequences on the line, with all on the line with these two guys being world champions did that one shot like that cracking is that what it said it's thinking you got cracked you just got what you asked for that was a that was a wild wild four fights between those two guys get cracking on his shorts he's a hell of a pool player he is yeah like world class yeah yeah like professional level pool player legitimately yeah like minnesota fat side minnesota fats wasn't really minnesota fats minnesota fats was new york fats and then when the movie the hustler came out with jackieleason and Paul Newman in 1963, I think. Was it 63?
Starting point is 03:04:47 When that movie came out, the movie was so popular that New York Fats changed his name to Minnesota Fats and said the movie was all about him. But it wasn't. He was just a good – his name was Rudolph Wanderone. And he was a good pool player. But he was not at the level of like Willie Moscone, who was like the world champion at the time. I don't know. He was just a really good talker.
Starting point is 03:05:09 He was just a smooth-talking hustler character. Man, there's some guys that grew up in pool halls that would beg to differ. They was great. If who was great? Any of them guys. There's some guys who never even got noticed. They just been playing in pool halls all their life.
Starting point is 03:05:28 Like, yeah, because you know them, I know them guys who talk like, I wish Minnesota Fats would come down and I'd wear his ass out. Yeah. Well, they probably would wear Minnesota Fats out, but he would play in one pocket. He really didn't gamble in anything other than one pocket, I think. That was like a, I'm sure he played nine ball too, but I mean like when he would play big games against people, he liked anything other than one pocket, I think. I'm sure he played nine ball, too. But, I mean, when he would play big games against people, he liked to play in one pocket. He could play everything, though.
Starting point is 03:05:51 He was like a real professional class pool player. He was a hustler. But Willie Moscone was like the world champion. Willie Moscone, his high record of running balls in a row was like 526 balls in a row. It lasted for decades. That's the person that's in public, John. That's the public person. That's not really true.
Starting point is 03:06:10 It's not really true. Because in the pool world, no, in the pool world, everybody gets found out, especially today, because they gamble. Because the great players, the best players, they all gamble. You ever heard of Minnesota Red? I'm sure there is a Minnesota Red. But believe me, this is my world like i literally came up in pool halls my dad i know a lot about pool hustling this is my dad on his own stick and all this and he and you always say man if i don't go shoot we don't eat which is which
Starting point is 03:06:38 wasn't true because he owned the company but he was a pool shark i'm sure i'm sure there's a lot of pool sharks and there's some guys out there that i used to be in the pool hall i'm like dang if they went public like if that was yeah they got into you think everybody makes it too like it's some it's some basketball legends that they played at ruckus right right and everybody's mind you talk about dr j they're like come on man will. Willie Earl? Right. Willie Earl was the coder? You know what I'm saying? But only people there know about Willie Earl.
Starting point is 03:07:09 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Well, there's guys like that in pool. Yeah. But here's the thing. Everybody knows about them. They might not be in the professional tournaments or not in the tournaments, but everybody knows about them.
Starting point is 03:07:19 They folk legend. Everybody knows about them. They're all hustlers. They're all gamblers. So they all gamble. To get that good, to get really good, you have to play for stakes. You don't get that good playing funsies. Oh no, ain't no
Starting point is 03:07:29 funsies. You gotta play for real bread. When you play for real bread, people find out. Because the pool wire is like the quickest wire in the country. If someone is playing for $25,000 at hard times in Sacramento, people in New York City hear about it. Oh hell yeah. Instantly. People text each other. There's no secrets. If you're playing for $2, people in New York City hear about it. Oh hell. Yeah instantly people text each other
Starting point is 03:07:46 There's no secrets if you play over $2,500. I'm here about it. So guys Guys are good. Everybody knows about it. Yeah, there's there's local legends. There's like this guy named Justin Bergman He might be as good as anybody alive, but he doesn't play in too many tournaments But everybody's scared to gamble with him He goes and gambles with world champions and robs them and he's like this dude He never leaves his town and people come to him and try to gamble with him. He goes and gambles with world champions and robs them. And he's like this dude who never leaves his town. And people come to him and try to gamble with him. It's folklore shit. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 03:08:10 But they're all known. You know what I'm saying? Remember, what is this sitcom that somebody's son got hustled? I think it was either Good Times or it's going to be. It's probably Good Times. And he came down and Jay came down. Fresh Prince. Oh, yeah, Fresh Prince.
Starting point is 03:08:25 See, don't nobody know about Phil. Don't nobody know about Uncle Phil. Uncle Phil come down and, okay, this is what y'all doing. Y'all ain't heard about me. This is what I used to do. So that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah, this, that.
Starting point is 03:08:40 But I'm telling you, in real life, unless he's playing every day, he's getting robbed. Unless he's playing every day, he's getting robbed. Unless he's playing every day, it's a perishable skill. Jeffrey, go get Lucille. Look at this. Oh, my God, he's terrible. He's hustling. He doesn't know anything.
Starting point is 03:08:54 Now he's pretending? Yeah, yeah. Okay. He's hustling. He's hustling right there. He's pretending. Okay, so when does he actually play? Let me see what he actually does when he's actually playing. Okay. When does he actually play let me see what he actually does when he's actually playing Okay
Starting point is 03:09:10 Now he screws his cue together. All right, so now they're hustling let me say Okay, yeah, they're not gonna show you See that's the most embarrassing shit ever is when they try to get someone to pretend they can play pool and they can't really play pool. That's why the color of money is so impressive. Oh, yeah, the color of money. Because Tom Cruise looked like he could kind of play a little. Yeah. I mean, he didn't look really like a world champion, but he looked like he could play a little.
Starting point is 03:09:41 Like, it looked reasonable to assume that he could play pool. That's like with any skilled thing thing like pool and any other thing when they have somebody acting like this right like like like boxing like boxing like i was gonna say creed like creed man i saw creed creed is the worst goddamn boxing movies like i'm like man will smith did better than muhammad ali than creed will Will Smith did good in Muhammad Ali. That's what I'm saying. He looked good in Muhammad Ali. But Creed, I'm like, man, if you don't get these dance steps the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 03:10:14 Like, I'm like, that is fucking terrible. Like, this is like, you can tell they were just doing, hey, count all the pad work. Like, hey, look, one, two, three, turn your body. One, two, three, turn your body. Like, God, this is so terrible. Creed is awkward. It's so stupid. It's so stupid.
Starting point is 03:10:35 Like, can you, I can't particularly watch, like, if you watch me watch Oz or any drug dealing movie or any doctor thing it's the most excruciating thing happening to my face I'm like that's that this is how I feel ah man this some that don't even go like that like It's like, it's terrible. Like, I'd rather watch something else that I don't know anything about and just be intrigued. Like,
Starting point is 03:11:11 oh, maybe that could, you know, maybe that could be happening. But this, I'm like, man, what the hell am I doing?
Starting point is 03:11:16 Whereas I would watch it and I'd be like, hmm, I guess that's how it goes down. Hmm. And I'm sitting over there so frustrated next to you. It's whispering.
Starting point is 03:11:28 You're like, yo, that's not how it go. Man, I'm trying to watch the movie. Yo, that's not how it actually goes. Explain it to me later. I'm enjoying this. I'm like, I'm going to go to the lobby.
Starting point is 03:11:41 I'm going to go to the lobby because I hate this. It's got to drive people crazy to play piano when they see because I hate this. It's got to drive people crazy to play piano. They see someone faking it. That's got to drive people crazy. That's not even your fucking body movement. None of this is your body movement. I would hate that.
Starting point is 03:11:58 Nobody plays piano anymore. Think about that. You had Ray Charles. You had Little Richard you had no no no no John Legend still played piano oh does he people definitely play piano yeah but not like back in the day Jerry Lee Lewis got more instruments now Billy Joel judgment I'm not saying it's not a judgment I'm just saying it's interesting like there used to be so many Elton John.
Starting point is 03:12:25 There were so many piano acts. There were these big piano acts back in the day. I think Usher may play one of the two songs in his Vegas. I don't know, but it is people that play. John Legend definitely plays the piano in every commercial and everything. He is definitely. I'm out of the loop. I knew commercial and everything, he is definitely... I knew what you meant, but there's also a lot of people.
Starting point is 03:12:50 There's other stuff to do. What I'm saying is that it used to be a viable kind of music. Guitar is still prevalent. Most people still play the guitar and the drums. Most people don't pull out. I get what you're saying. But it is people who... Is something super sincere about singing a song
Starting point is 03:13:06 While you're playing the piano Like goodbye That's very personal You know what I'm saying? That's very personal. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, the guitar don't give you that type of feel. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 03:13:32 They're sitting down. They're sitting down. It's very emotional. Good by Norm G. You know what I'm saying? It makes you cry. If he's just standing there. That's what John Legend, that's why John Legend do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:13:47 What is his song, Ordinary People? I think he always leans in. We heard you and you just, as soon as you hear it, you're like, we are just ordinary people. I got a John Mayer was doing, he was doing something live where he was just doing like a live storytelling show. And he had like a piano. You know what's weird about this? There's no back to that piano. How about you face the audience, you fucking... It's like I see his stomach before I saw the piano.
Starting point is 03:14:11 Like, straighten your shirt. If he turned his back, you would think he's faking, maybe. Just like you were just saying. He's just moving his hands. I don't know if that's why they're sideways. But everybody knows he's super fucking... John Mayer is super talented. You would think he's just moving his hands. I don't know if that's why they're sideways. But everybody knows he's super fucking John Mayer. Super talented. You would think he's taking the night off.
Starting point is 03:14:28 He's a very nice guy, too. I think Elton John does his on like, he kind of slightly turnt, but he's on like a platform. You can kind of see him. Elton John is... Oh, my God. He's the man. Elton John, back in the day. What's that song, Saturday Night?
Starting point is 03:14:46 Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting? Yeah Fighting what is the actual name of that song his shit's Sideways 2 I don't understand that I think it must be to show that he's playing it which makes sense I think is Stevie wanted to Sideways 2 also you get to see more of him that way you get to see his hands and his legs
Starting point is 03:15:02 moving and everything it's probably better cause I was not thinking, like, every time I see anyone play piano, I've never seen him turn forward. It's 100% always sideways. Maybe because it'd just be all knees. Yeah. Knees and crotch. It's just getting all knees and crotch. Kind of weird that he wears
Starting point is 03:15:18 glasses. Like, why is he wearing sunglasses? He always does. Isn't that odd? I mean, he always used to wear the big crazy glasses. That was when he was going bald. Maybe his eye's bad now. He's got his hair fixed. Because he's definitely not going bald anymore. Like, nice little lace front.
Starting point is 03:15:32 I don't know what that is. But it was pretty good. Stevie Wonder. Yeah. I don't know if Stevie played. Rachel, I've never played to the side. I mean, the front. Either.
Starting point is 03:15:43 I think they always played that way. I think it was probably because, you know, there are those pianos that will play themselves. So people probably want to see you moving around. They want to see you actually doing it. See if you could find. That's what people don't play no more, the harmonica. So here he's sitting behind keyboards.
Starting point is 03:16:00 Is he facing the crowd? I can't tell. Yeah. Yeah, he is there. Okay, he's facing the crowd. I think he got keyboards and then he turns to the piano what about uh try to find Ray Charles how did Ray Charles do it because Ray Charles didn't even know where the when he only knew by sound where they even work that's you have sideways yeah he sideways too I guess they all do it that way
Starting point is 03:16:26 Makes sense Here Nope I guess the maybe better answer Is that when you open The piano up That's where the sound comes out Oh
Starting point is 03:16:36 It should be going Towards the audience Because it goes like this Yeah yeah yeah Oh that makes sense And then maybe it's just traditional That they all just do it that way Oh that's that top thing
Starting point is 03:16:43 Yeah we're just thinking about it The top acts as like Sound sound bounces off of it. You point the sound the other way, it's gonna be not a good concert. Oh, that's pretty badass. Probably most of the reason why. Oh, that makes sense. That's pretty cool that they designed the top like that.
Starting point is 03:16:56 It's like a sideways harp, an enclosed harp. Yeah. Okay. But these pianos don't do that, so that kind of defeats what I just said. All right, I gotta wrap this up tell everybody the names of your specials
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