The Joe Rogan Experience - #2000 - Duncan Trussell

Episode Date: June 20, 2023

Duncan Trussell is a stand-up comic, writer, actor, host of the "Duncan Trussell Family Hour" podcast, and creator of "The Midnight Gospel" on Netflix. www.duncantrussell.com

The Joe Rogan Experience. This is our first podcast coming out as our true selves. We're furries! Yeah, we've been holding it in forever. This is my true identity. And you know what? It just eats me alive to not tell how we met at a furry con. Well, we didn't know that we met there. Remember? Well, yeah, I didn't know who you were for a long time. Yeah, we didn't know.

I'm like, oh my God, you're Meow Meow? Dude, yeah, I didn't know who you were for a long time. Yeah, we didn't know. I'm like, oh, my God, you're Meow Meow? Dude, it blew my mind. I mean, to me, that is proof we're in a simulation. Because what are the odds? They're not good. What are the odds, man? The odds are also not good that I'm going to keep this fucking helmet on. Oh, my God, I'm sweating.

This is not good for me. I'm not keeping this on, dude. I can barely breathe. How do they do it? I don't know. They fuck with these things on. Oh my god, I'm sweating. This is not good for me. I'm not keeping this on, dude. It's a fucking- I can barely breathe. How do they do it? I don't know. They fuck with these things on. How do you fuck with this on?

They're heroes. Those people are heroes. Total respect for furries now. Respect for the furry community. Look, I got the feet on and everything. It's like Bikram fucking. Yeah. It's very hot in here.

If you can fuck with this on, you're an American hero. Yeah. That's how I feel. David Coggins needs to put on one of these things and fuck for an hour. He should. Yeah. You think you're so cool running for a thousand miles? How about fuck for four and a half minutes with this on?

I can't fuck for four and a half minutes without it on i can't fuck for four and a half minutes without it on but this is like sprinting uphill this is really brutal and just thinking about padding around a ramada in one of these things i just don't get it orlando what do you mean you get it i get it when i put it on i get it i know they do it. I don't know why all of them do it. Wait, why? Why do you think they do it? I think they do it because it offers you an anonymity that is impossible any other way. Right.

And it turns you into your image. The visual that people get of you is this adorable, cute mascot. Right. Everybody loves a mascot. The mascot is literally there to pump everybody up and yay, and they don't talk and everybody loves them. Yeah, right. People at Disneyland, same thing.

Wait, they don't talk? No. They don't talk. Like if you meet Goofy, Goofy doesn't say jack shit to you. We went to Goofy's kitchen. Goofy doesn't talk. Yeah, it's like. I can't. i can't do it oh my god oh it's so hard to breathe oh it's so hard to breathe horrible how about those fucking people that work at disneyland that wear these things and they walk around in the heat in the summer

respect to them dude those disneyland, the people who do this at Disneyland. They party. I bet they do. I heard it's, like, insane when they get off work. I'm sure. Like, they fucking party. First of all, it's not even their fault. Their brains have been cooked all day.

Do you know what kind of effect that must have? Oh, my God. On their cognitive function? Dude, like, while we're bitching because they made us wear masks on planes, they're going around in a hot box. I bet they made them wear a mask under their stupid mask. Guarantee it. I bet they did.

I bet they did. You had to mask up in your goofy outfit. We got good outfits though. These are dope. Dude, these are incredible and it's kind of sad that we're pussies. Of all the costumes we've worn, I think this is the least time we've spent.

Yeah. Even the hoods. But I was almost hyperventilating in there. Dude, I was panicking. You can see this awful wall. Yeah. It's terrible. But don't you get it, though?

If you were like a very tortured, socially awkward person, your life has just been a mess, but you are, for whatever reason, attracted sexually to the idea of it, or maybe not even sexually, maybe just attracted to the idea of it. But then you do it, and whatever reason, attracted sexually to the idea of it, or maybe not even sexually, maybe just attracted to the idea of it. But then you do it and you just, you get to be not just innocuous, not just like someone that doesn't get, like someone that gets picked on, not just, not that, but instead attractive.

You're this adorable thing. You're adorable. Like, hey. And people want, they come up to you with a different energy. Dude, I've seen some really hot furry porn like I've seen some incredible furry porn worst furry point Have you ever seen something like God you guys aren't even trying I? Those those are still shots usually like weird Polaroids and stuff of like like so generally those are like Solo furries who are banging a stuffed animal like

are banging a stuffed animal like that sucks that's not cool that's not cool but some they do like put a fleshlight in a stuffed animal no they don't they're not that advanced they just rip a hole in the fucking thing's butt and just like leave their crusted jizz on it as some mark of achievement or something really bad oh really bad human beings are so weird in so many ways yes in so many ways but it's like it's so funny it's like media like norman rockwell paintings there's just like image of us that we are when we're at our best the family dinner table in a 1980s movie yeah yeah you know that's us we're at our best. The family dinner table in a 1980s movie. That's us when we're at our best. Everyone's getting along. How's school going? Junior?

Junior's doing great. But the reality is there's no license to get a person. You don't have a license to become pregnant. You don't have to go through any qualification process. It's literally the most important thing

for the future of the human race that people who have children and raise those children are capable of doing it. You're capable of raising a well-adjusted person. Any person growing up as a human being today, baby to grown-up, you're born today and you got to become a grown-up in this fucking wacky world yeah good luck being normal oh my god this is

having kids right now and like just having like a a vague understanding of kurzweil's a vague understanding of kurzweil's predictions for the singularity yeah and just like considering like you know with with my kid i i will tell him like with the car i'm like you know probably when you're old enough to drive they won't have steering wheels anymore you're probably not going to be driving the way i do because definitely don't you think like by... If they can just prove, see there's meatheads like me that'll be like, fuck that bro, I want to drive my own fucking car. Yeah.

But if they can eliminate all deaths, you're going to have to take cars like that to a track. You're going to have to do, you're going to have to take the cars that I enjoy, you're going to have to take them to a track and drive them around.

Sure. They're going to be rides. It's not going to be your transportation. You don't think in 10 years that it's going to- It's very possible. Very possible. It'll be a civil, like a rule fight. There'll be some dispute about whether or not people accept that.

Oh, yeah. It's going to be a freedom issue with a lot of folks. It is a freedom issue. It is. Well, it certainly is if you have a totalitarian government because there's only one way that a car can drive itself autonomously. It has to be connected to like insane technology that allows all sorts of things like what a Tesla does. Like you get updates online on your Tesla. They just send you an update.

Sure. They fix things they make things better they make the the auto driving feature better in the if that's the case like if somebody just decides to shut your car off yeah you're not allowed to drive duncan we don't like your views on covid vaccines no yeah i saw your tweets yeah i don't i don't like the way you think about the world and life and love. Yeah. You're confusing people. Yeah, you didn't jog today. You don't think exactly the way I want you to think.

So we're going to steer you and everybody who's paying attention in the same direction. And the everybody's paying attention part is huge. Because there's more self-policing than there is policing. There's more people that get scared of not going along with narratives than there are people enforcing those narratives. You know what that's called? Cops in the head. That's a name for it. Cops in the head.

It's like, this is when I was in college. I don't remember who came up with it. But basically, they're studying neighborhoods that had huge police presences. Bad areas. Hyper low income areas that like just like that that um i mean you could do the math and like so basically the cops realized like they didn't have to patrol anymore after a certain amount of time because people assimilate the police state inside of them and just like you're saying, now you're policing yourself.

Yeah. And that is the ultimate when you think about like trying to save money, when you think about controlling populations, or when you think about like, you know, the huge problem of, of like empire is like, once you spread out too far, it's incredibly expensive to keep everything supplied and everything in control and to keep your like commanders doing what you say and so you know the best thing for an empire is for people to not even know that they're there but to be like following the general prescription of the Emperor you know you know that's the ultimate Empire you don't don't put up statues of yourself right don't like put your fucking

face on the coin what you want to do is get your philosophy into the brain of the people that you have i think the problem today is that there's there's so many more interesting narratives than the official narrative there's like it used to be that you had a president that would stand up and talk to people and you know he would give these speeches that everyone would listen to yeah and that's eisenhower at the end of his terms when he's saying he's warning america about the military industrial complex that's so creepy there's a machine he's warning us you know that there's a machine that wants to go to war yeah and you have to be very careful that he's warning us, you know, that there's a machine that wants to go to war. Yeah. And you have to be very careful that he's warning us about that.

And this is like you could tell the next president to not ever say that. And everybody else sort of steps in line. So you tell the next president, don't talk about that. You talk about the conflicts overseas. You talk about the the desire to spread democracy. Yeah and that you talk about these people that are a threat to everyone because they have weapons of mass destruction like you got to follow a very very very specific narrative all right and that's all we had forever yeah forever and so there's all these people that would have cocktail parties and they would meet at coffee shops yeah and then go do you know what's really going on right because this is what I think I think the CIA is giving people

LSD like what what the fuck you talking about? Yeah, you know those meetings Where people in South Central? Were like I think the government's bringing drugs in here and everybody's like no fucking way. Yeah, no way They wouldn't do that right they wouldn't do that But if you were I mean look let's let's pretend you're a really good guy and you're a government agent. Right. You're the best. You want nothing but freedom in America and spread democracy around the globe.

But Congress won't approve funding some rebels. And there's only one way. You've got to get this guy out of office. Right. This guy's not playing ball. He's not with the agenda. He's a terrible dictator. Yeah. You've got to get this guy out of office. This guy's not playing ball. He's not with the agenda. He's a terrible dictator. You've got to get rid of him.

And we need to fund this. We need to fund these rebels. So we're just going to sell some drugs. So crazy. But if you think about the fact that if you're in the DEA or if you're in the CIA or the FBI or any major intel organization, they know the futility of the amount of drugs that are being brought into this country. And there's a reason why.

Because there's a demand in this country. You're not going to change it. And you see all these fucking scumbags making billions. And you're like, well, why don't I make some fucking money? Why don't we make some fucking money and do some good with it? Right.

Sure. That's the Oliver North story. Dude, here's the perfect business model. You create a situation where you are selling drugs to people and then arresting them and taking your drugs back, plus all their stuff, and then reselling the drugs rinse and repeat and you know who to arrest because you're selling you're selling it to the nearest car your friend and you just keep it's basically like throwing out fishing nets man you just throw out the nets let them sell the drugs long enough to get a shit ton of money some nice cars pull the nets back in you got the drugs you got the cars you got the money it's an incredible and also the you know i'm i'm sometimes suspicious

regarding like the idea that they incinerate the drugs that they someone coming along go we got that we'll take care of it we'll incinerate it take it to the incinerator some fucking guys who they just got out of the naval academy you know like we got it yeah we got it no problem yeah and they fucking squirt that off to some special boat yeah and there's a precedent for this i mean this isn't conspiracy like that was proven that like this shit is remember that cia plane that crashed with all the cocaine yeah tons it was over it was overweight that's why it crashed because it had so much coke greed took him down I think it had something crazy like a thousand pounds of coke that is so much coke I can't even imagine how

much coke that is how much was it how many pounds was it 3.3 tons oh it? 3.3 tons. Oh, my God. 3.3. How much does an elephant weigh? How many elephants worth of Coke is that? Dude, that's crazy. That's CIA Coke, too. You know, that's not bad Coke. No. That's like something incredible in there.

Oh, my God. It's pure. Pure. It's rock flake. The stuff that Eric Clapton used to get. Jesus Christ, just makes your entire body go numb. I don't like Coke though. Look at all the Coke that he had.

Oh my god. That's insane. Oh my god. That is fucking crazy. Look at that. I can't get this fucking camera out of here. Yeah, it happened to me in the five seconds I had it on, too. It's a bunch of little hairs.

Holy shit, man. You want a napkin or something? No, I'm all right. How many bags of that do you think it consumed at, like, an average Coachella? How many bags of that did Joey Diaz do during his prime? That's what I want to know. That might be, like, Joey Diaz's cocaine career right there. Oh, man, that'd be so cool if there was a way to look at all the drugs you've done.

Like if you could have them laid out in front of you over the course of a lifetime. Oh, my God, you'd be terrified. It would be a room. It would be exciting. The amount of weed? Oh, dude. The volume? Just the sheer volume? Booze. Just think it. All of it. terrified it would be a room it would be exciting the amount of weed oh dude the volume just the sheer volume booze oh just think all of it just just fucking piles of ketamine wow and if you

do a chart to the size of your room versus the bad decisions you've made in your life i bet you would find some correlations yes that's for sure 100 absolutely man yeah you do you do have to i mean there's just no way around it this is why i think karma is a wonderful and perfect way to articulate this which is just like where you're at everything around you that's your karma like that's you this is your karma and then i love that because it keeps me from like going victim. You know, when you look around at everything, you're like, whatever it is, good. You did that for yourself. Bad.

You did that to yourself. And you just have to deal with it. But you know, there's not necessarily. Right. Babies get shot in drive-bys. Well, yeah. Okay. Yes.

The baby thing. I mean, there's some like theoretical there's two ways to look at it one occam's razor it's the same problem like thea's face in trying to explain why awful things happen to babies you know what i think what i think karma is an element it's an element of existence but it's not it's not a rule. It's like the evil people live to be 100 and get away with it. Well, for karma to really work, you need reincarnation. That's where the math goes into the unquantifiable. So for karma to really work, I mean, it could work in a very simple mechanistic way with just one life.

But the idea is that there's different types of karma. So there's the karma that's happening right now this is like flowering karma but there's karma like seeds of shit that you did a while ago like when all of a sudden like someone calls you up and is like hey i'm your son you're like what like yeah i'm your kid that's that's like that seed has been in you and then it grows into the present moment that's and then there's karma that's the same idea but from past lives so that's where it gets really weird and i guess there's some like very blurry way you could connect that to epigenetics you know what i mean it's like epigenetics is sort of the Connect that to epigenetics. Hmm. You know what I mean? It's like epigenetics is sort of the

Way like you get reincarnation into biology except it's obviously not reincarnation It's your ancestors, but it's essentially the same concept except one is quantifiable. The other is mystical I wonder if if epigenetics is If you're if you're imparting some of your mind, some of your thinking to a child. Yeah. I wonder what effect it would have at the age you were when you had the child. Yeah, sure. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, yeah.

Al Pacino's kid is gonna be amazing amazing he's 82 82 shooting live rounds incredible into a 29 year old hottie and people are fucking mad at him what are they mad at they're mad because they think you if you're that old you're not gonna be able to care for that child well that's one that's the to me if you that's the most logical if you are gonna be such an asshole that you want to that you're criticizing al pacino for procreating don't you want more pacinos he's a great fucking actor and you know but but the other one is just like that's that age gap is insurmountable. Well, I don't think it was his idea.

No. Yeah, I think he didn't have a paternity test. Exclusive, this is a real special coming at this time. Al Pacino, 83, breaks silence to celebrate 29-year-old girlfriend's pregnancy after claims he demanded paternity test because she hoodwinked him. Yeah, there it is. The actor revealed his girlfriend, Noor Al-Fala,

were expecting last week. Initial reports claimed that Al was not pleased over the baby. But how do we know? You know, it's like people say things like that. Which he has now confirmed. Underneath it says, has voiced his delight.

Sources told Daily Mail that wasn't true, which is now confirmed. So that means it wasn't true. Not true. They didn't hoodwink him. See the way they phrased that? That's weird. Sources told Daily Mail that wasn't true, which he has now

confirmed. But look at the headline. Look at the headline. Look at the headline. Fucking assholes, man. This is so crazy. They're basically saying this is not true. So he's delighted to have a baby with his girlfriend. And so people made up this story and we read it because it's the headline. Why not just be like Al Pacino chopped his kid into bits and then underneath say he didn't chop his kid into bits.

Look, he's walking around. He's smiling. He looks great. Yeah. into bits and then underneath say he didn't chop his kid into bits look he's walking around he's smiling he looks very special yeah listen man them anti-aging doctors get him on the happy sauce who knows yeah man look at that he's wearing comfortable shoes that's i would he's fucking cool look at that i would wear those old men shoes wow look at him Looks fine He looks great Is that him going for walks? How old is he? 83 Who's that with him? I don't know

No that's that other actor guy Isn't it? No No He looks like Andy Garcia a little bit Yes That's what I was going to say You sure?

No? It's probably his friend Yeah Okay Dude Things to do in Denver when you're dead Underrated movie. I don't think I ever saw that.

I never saw that. It was like their version. It was like when Pulp Fiction had just come out and everybody wanted everything to be fucking cool. Okay. And things became cool. Yeah. You know. Yeah, I remember that.

It's cool. That's got to be cool for Tarantino to watch his shit echo out like to watch it shape culture That's so badass that you do that amazing. He's very important He's very important because he's grandfathered in like his movies are fucking bananas Yeah, like once upon a time in Hollywood was fucking crazy And he's grandfathered in in a way like you know what a Tarantino movie is right? Have you seen kill bill have you seen in glorious way like you know what a Tarantino movie is. Right. Have you seen Kill Bill? Have you seen Inglourious Basterds? Have you seen these movies?

Yeah. Then shut the fuck up because you know what you're in for. Right. Whereas I think if you were a young director and that was like your first film, people would go, you know, the violence was so unnecessary. It was so egregious. It was so, you know, like the language, the way they taught. People would find criticism in it, I think. Yeah. You see in interviews, he is like so frustrated with the like endless question he gets from hack reporters who are like, violence.

What about the violence? Like he just is done with that. It must be so annoying to get that same question over to make great movies what like when did journalism turn into scolding because it wasn't all it wasn't the idea like you ask people questions yeah but there isn't a moral right twist to it or am i imagining it no you're not imagining it did it well barbara walters used to do it a little bit you know that was like she was kind of famous for being a tough interview you know she'd interview people and ask them like uncomfortable questions yeah but it's like when it's got that it's not even like they're asking you questions about shit you lied about right they're making a moral

judgment on you they're essentially saying why are you a bad person right why are you making movies that show horrible things? Yeah. You're contributing to this horrible culture we have, which is not true. That doesn't really work. That correlation doesn't work because when you look at some countries, I think it's Japan that has a very high rate of – they play a lot of violent video games but they have way less violence oh yeah right is that it did i read that like they've tried to make correlations between violent video games and an actual violence that is so dumb and some people think that it might actually have the

opposite effect that it's there is a potential in some humans that they play those violent video games and they would get out any kind of wild, crazy instinct that they might have. Like, just, I want you to imagine if epigenetics are real. Yes. If you really, there's a certain amount of us that are imparting memories of being in war to other kids.

Yeah. And this is going into your baby and the mindset is going into your baby and the mindset is going into your baby yeah and it seems like that's an inescapable reality if there's a thing like a video game that lets them express that part of their brain without actually having a desire to do it yeah no judgments but it almost makes sense that it would work to actually stop violence. Right.

So the idea is, like, what is promoting violence? And my answer to that is, like, being a human, poverty, you know, putting someone through a terrible life, like, forcing someone into bad situations, that's what creates all of it. And it's very weird the way we address the problem of violence. Because we only look at it in terms of the action itself. We don't want to go all the way back to the source.

No. We don't want to go back and try to fix the source. Well, there's a big problem that happens when you start doing that, is instead of being able to transform violent people into one-dimensional sociopathic creatures, suddenly you get back far enough and they're, I don't know, watching their mom and dad OD on heroin. Yeah. Or their, you know, whatever it is. And again, not to say we don't need prisons and justice and all that, but when you realize, oh yeah, you're just looking at like a misplaced defense mechanism that this human had to learn because of whatever they fucking came out of. Now, I'm not saying it's all sociopaths had horrific experiences. I just, looking at my own shitty defense mechanisms and then like going in therapy and connecting them to the past it's easy to see where like

the aspects of my personality that are not conducive to harmony came from yeah it's just you know you're the kids are fucking so tough they have to adapt yeah they kids adapt and they develop these weird defense mechanisms and then add to that the epigenetic component and then that what the united states has been at war 93 of its history yeah so now you're just looking at like some like insane number of people that are transmitting memories of being at war yeah into their children and you know that was my theory about why history was so barbaric but if you go far back enough the pyramids so like what happened between then and then and like say the Mongols what happened what what was the what was the transition why did people get so barbaric?

I think they're the people that survived the impact. Right. I think when the Younger Dryas impact happened, if it happened 11,800 years ago, they believe, I think the people that survived that were fucking monsters because they had to be. Right. I bet it was a total breakdown of any civilization that's why civilization doesn't really pop up again for 6 000 years yeah i think for thousands of years we were monsters dude it's so funny that we that on our planet are all of these

mega structures that we just are like, I don't really know. It just always blows my mind that all over the planet signs... Did you see that one I posted on Instagram the other day? No. Oh my god. This is fucking insane. What is it? Oh shit.

What? Where did I leave my phone? You've got... There's a phone right there. Where? Oh. It was There's a phone right there. Where? Oh, it was hidden by my mic. Sorry. I'm going to send it to Jamie right now. Do you got it? Yeah.

So, check this out. Give me some volume on this. Central Java's lush Kedu plains in pursuit of this mythical peak near the little settlement of Burra. They chopped and burned the strangling vegetation for six weeks and removed tons of volcanic ash. What they discovered were marvelous figures cut in stone, thousands of them hidden beneath the volcanic jungle. Believed to have been built in the 8th and 9th century, the Borobudur temple is an uncontested marvel whose intricate architecture continues to confound scholars. Despite being one of the

most important sites on Java, there is no written record of who erected it or what its intended purpose was. Because there are no inscriptions or dates on the monument, historians must make educated guesses as to when it was most likely created. The dating estimates are based purely off of architectural comparisons found elsewhere in Indonesia. Given the magnitude of the construction, it appears remarkable that no ruler or dynasty took credit for it. Barobidir is the world's biggest Buddhist temple, and yet nobody knows who built it. Whoa. That's cool. Yeah, Jamie, I'm sending you another one right now. I mean, there's a bunch of these things. There's a bunch of things like that. They're just like,

I don't know so who made this okay what are your thoughts on mud flood what's mud flood mud flood theory oh the the like i think that goes along with the younger drawings yeah but much check this out though real quick i want you to watch this because this is bananas same account set out to empty ponds the residents said were bottomless the long uk is located in the village of xi and beijing in zhejiang province Same account. Wow. Jesus. into solid siltstone and descends roughly 30 meters down, with stone rooms, bridges, gutters, and ponds. The Long Yu caves are supported by pillars that are evenly dispersed throughout the caves, and the walls, ceiling, and stone columns are uniformly decorated with chisel marks in a pattern of parallel lines and ornate designs. Despite their magnitude and the work

required to build them, no indication of their construction, or even their existence, has been discovered in archival sources. Despite the fact that the whole excavation involved about a million cubic meters of stone, there is no archaeological evidence explaining where that amount of stone went, nor is there evidence of the work being done. Damn. Furthermore, there isn't a single historical source that mentions them, which is extremely remarkable given the scope of the undertaking. Despite decades of analysis, the Longview cave's mystery remains essentially unsolved. What the fuck, dude?

You know, when people like bash Hancock or try to dismiss it or debunk it, it's so frustrating to me because like, first of all, nobody builds something that big underground just for fun like you know what I mean there's a I like I think we

burrowed in we had to like whatever happened or maybe something happened and then we were so scared it would happen again, we created, that's like an ancient survival shelter. Well, they have them in Turkey as well. There's these giant, is that where it was? Where Randall told us about? Dude, those are crazy. Those are crazy. With like air ducts.

Yeah, yeah. Just insane. And it's like, you don't do that unless you have to. Right. You don't burrow like a human ant high, ant nest. Yeah, these things. Like the amount of resources it took to do what these people did. These are huge chambers carved into stone.

I think that the sky was like fucking raining lightning at one point. Yeah. Pole shift. I mean, to me, the really eerie thing about all of this is the information gap. It's that we have this massive, like the hard drive has been like fragmented

from what, like we just don't know. But thank God they made everything out of stone the thing about it is whatever their technology was that existed to make the pyramids it was different we make everything out of metal and glass and that shit's not gonna be here in 10,000 years it's just not gonna be here it'll all get destroyed by just Mother Nature. It'll just eventually get, like, I think they've done, like, analysis of, like, how much of a city will be around after 500 years of just vacancy. And after 1,000 years. Well, Detroit is a great example. You see what happens in Detroit?

Yeah. Houses are just getting taken over by trees. Yeah. Like, trees go through the roof. They grow through the floor. They're literally devouring the homes they've the homes that are abandoned are getting eaten by trees so cool it's very cool but it shows you it didn't take i mean nature has a long lifespan it doesn't give a fuck if it takes

100 years to reclaim a house right to take a house back just get the roots of the tree to start busting through everything's rained on on. The wood's soggy. It just breaks apart. It eats everything. Eats everything. Assimilates everything. You know, there's like this, humans have this interesting like temporal blindness. Like the way time passes for us produces the illusion of solidity.

And so that makes, that confuses people because they think that there's permanence here. When if we could just see, if we lived longer and we could see time faster, we would feel like we were in some kind of like ocean of like undulating matter with these voids in it that we hang out in like little bubbles in the ocean. That's what we build our houses in. we wouldn't look at this place as solid we wouldn't think of it as like

permanent this is why everyone was so like fucked up by the pandemic it's because you know you watch enough tv you buy into the permanence of civilization suddenly civilization like has a little little rumble like a little rat like a house that needs some kind of serious repair it shifts on its it shifts a little bit yeah and and everyone was like reminded yeah this this doesn't last any more than any of that shit lasted and i think that's very disturbing for people who've really anchored themselves in some notion of permanence here. Yeah. It freaks people out. Well, I think that was a great ad for psilocybin. Yes.

Psilocybin. That's what that was. That was an awesome ad for psilocybin. Ozempic now has psilocybin in it, which is incredible. That's better. That's better. You realize why you're fat. It'll show you everything.

It'll show you all the wires. You need it. Underneath the board. Dude, the whole thing, like this, this is what, one of the really funny things about humans. We are capable of ignoring internal realities. Like we can somehow distract ourselves from the obvious cause of our suffering and equate it with a million other things than just what it actually is.

Like, dude, I got so fat during the pandemic, fatter than I've ever been. It wasn't a mystery to me. Like I knew why I was fat, but like it is curious that like you there's a way that you can just kind of like ignore that or like when i was drinking too much you can ignore yeah that you're waking up with like a low level flu every morning like you can somehow ignore it's so interesting and it's common well most people do, especially because it's so fun to party.

It's so fun. When they're out there partying and getting lit, it's a good time. It is outside of the way it makes you feel the next day. I mean, what a wonderful high. I think what sucks about alcohol as a drug is that it's a depressant and if you just do like one drink and practice mindfulness with that and watch you realize like this is like this sucks like it it goes away real quick it lasts i don't know 45 minutes an hour then you want to go back up right but your liver can't process it enough and that's where the hangover comes from is it's like well it's also dehydration dehydration

glutathione you can you can mitigatehydration. And glutathione. You can mitigate some of that with glutathione. I saw that. I saw that on Twitter. Yeah. Liposomal glutathione, I think, is the best. That's some stuff you squirt under your tongue and you hold there and it gets into your bloodstream better. But IV is the best.

If you can get an IV glutathione, that's the best. Dude, if you're drinking so much that you're getting IVs, you got to think about that. Or if you want to continue having a good time, but you want to take care of your body, get an IV. You know what? Listen. Listen. I sound like a prude. I don't care if people out there- No, you don't sound like a prude.

You sound like Duncan Trussell right now. This is who you are right now. This is where you are, honestly, in your life. And at other points in your life, you've been different. Right. That's normal. That's how all of us are. Incarnation.

Yeah. And that's why when you see someone who makes a turn for the best, like you see good things happen to them and they get the sparkle in their eye and they're excited. Yeah. You get excited too. It's fun. It's great.

Right. Because it isn't great if you're always like that. It's really great if you figure it out It's like if your life has been kind of fucked and then you went what am I doing? Right and then pieced it back together again, then you're thankful every day right then you're appreciative every day Yeah, it's like those negative things are actually can be positive Absolutely, dude. This is another, this is the other thing. Like, we focus on half

of what's really happening. Like, people focus on the light and what's good and when things are going right for them, completely ignoring the fact that, like, in general, when shit's going bad, like, that's the stuff

that's made you interested. Like, down the road, that's the stuff that's made you interesting. Like, down the road, that's what the stories are told about. That's, like, what the jokes are written about. Not the good times. Like, the bad times, that's the fertilizer, man. Yeah. There's a saying, no mud, no lotus. You ever heard that before?

Oh, no. I like that, though. And the two are completely connected like especially if you zoom out of time yeah and you'll realize you're growing out of your worst moment hopefully for the better and the worst moment actually made you smarter it made you like appreciate life more it made you like less like dude once i got my ball cut off that was a fucking game changer dude because like you just you just learn how to be in the present moment like you can't get off you you you like your illusion of immortality is destroyed yeah and you

need that like it's really not good if you think you're gonna live forever I think that's one of the good things about jjitsu you almost get close to death oh yeah all the time yeah you know and you're so exhausted that you it's easier to live in the moment you're so less anxious right now i mean i know i'm fucking beating a dead horse but i think people need physical struggle and not just even exercise i think think you need exercise, but you need exercise that's rigorous. And if you can only do walks, that's cool. Do that. It's definitely better than

not doing that. Walks are great. Look at Al Pacino. He looked great out there. I bet he's got a trainer. The point is, it helps your anxiety. It helps what you think in a big way. And I'm thinking about it right now because I hurt my back a couple days ago like actually it's about a week now dead lifting shouldn't done it that will fuck you up stupid stupid

and it's not bad but it's annoying and it's waking me up to this like reality of what happens when you don't work out for a few days. Because I haven't really been able to work out. And I just started doing some stuff. I found out I can do some stuff. I just got to be careful because I don't want to re-aggravate it, you know, because I don't want it to take longer than it. So two days in a row I didn't work out, which is really rare for me. And then all of a sudden I'm like, I don't feel good.

Like, I feel like, ugh. I feel like shitty.'t feel good like i feel like yeah i feel like shitty i feel off yeah you know like even the sun's not like pepping me up i go outside stare at the sun it's beautiful day yeah it's beautiful beautiful clouds in the sky i'm like and i'm like oh you little you have to work out you can't work out right oh my god so now this is how imagine that times like 20 years for some people of eating shitty too. Not even eating good. Right.

And then not working out. Right. And that's most people. And so your like normal reality is this, like you're, you're in a kind of decayed building. You haven't been, it's like walking the dog. You know what I mean? Like if you don't take your dog for walks, what happens to the dog? Gets nervous, gets weird, right? Gets depressed. Your body is your dog. You know what I mean? Like, if you don't take your dog for walks, what happens to the dog? Gets nervous.

Gets weird, right? Gets depressed. Your body is your dog. Right. You know, so it's going to do the same thing. It just gets all freaked out. My dog needs exercise. He loves it.

He loves it. I pick up that fucking ball. I have a ball thrower. It's like an addle-addle looking thing with a ball in the end of it so you can really chuck it. He gets so pumped. It's a great dog, man. I go, dude, I got the ball. He's like an addle-addle looking thing with a ball in the end of it so you can really chuck it. He gets so pumped. He's a great dog, man. I go, dude, I got the ball. He's like, no way.

I go, it's right here. He's like, no, we could have changed the ball. I'm like, fuck, yeah. So I get him all hyped up first. I get all excited. Yeah, I get him excited. Yeah, I get excited. I go, oh, here we go, here we go.

He loves it. Dude, my fucking poodle loves to get the ball will not bring it back you gotta train him to do that oh I've tried but retrievers

they do it instantly yeah Marshall did it Marshall did it like from the time he was a little bitty bitty puppy I'd throw something for him

he'd grab it and bring it right back he didn't want to let it go but he wanted to bring it back but if you say come on drop it drop it drop it

hey come on dude come on dude he'll drop it drop it but then he's looking at you like he's smiling he wanted to bring it back. But if you say, come on, drop it. Drop it. Drop it. Hey, come on, dude. Come on, dude. He'll drop it. Drop it. But then he's looking at you like he's smiling. He wants to play a little tug of war. So I'll play a little tug of war with him. He's so playful.

Dude, that is definitely the coolest dog I've ever met. He's amazing. Like that is a mystical creature. You feel like you're being visited by some kind of like magic dog. Dude. So happy. He's so happy. And when I watch TV tv he just hops up and

cuddles he just wants to cuddle with me when i watch tv yeah like that's what he does he used to be a wolf yeah so this is a photo on his instagram the most recent photo that we put up like this this is a me watching tv and homeboy just like hops up to hang out with me that's what he does so sweet he hops up and he cuddles with you he wants to cuddle he's just all love everybody you come over the house like you never met him before he's like you're my favorite person you see this this is the gonna be the aliens posing with us in about 50 years I hope hope I don't have to wear a collar. I'll be a good boy. I won't run into traffic.

You're going to have to prove yourself first. I used to love to take him with no leash when I lived in California because I'd take him in the canyons and we'd run around. But unfortunately, that's a little more problematic where I live. But I think dogs, they need something, man. They need exercise. They need love. They're like a little version of you in some strange way.

Yep. You know, and they're a reflection of the owner in some strange way. Do you buy into the idea that, like, dogs and their owners kind of start looking like each other? People always say that. I don't think I look like Marshall. He doesn't look like me. But he's the sweetest.

He does when you have your rough rough costume i don't know that's the original marshall that's a wolf that's what's crazy that that used to be a wolf right that someone took the most ferocious predatory beast of the forest that operates in packs and they communicate telepathically. And they turn that thing into this adorable love's punch. Dude, okay. When was the last time, this connects, when was the last time you read One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? Oh, it's been a long time.

Okay. I think I must have read it when I was in high school and just didn't pay attention. It's completely different from the movie. Like 100% different. Maybe I never read it. Ken Kesey, he was like... Ken Kesey wrote it?

Yeah. Oh, no way. So it's so psychedelic. The book is so psychedelic. But, you know, like the idea is that the character of McMurphy, Jack Nicholson's character, and again, this is my own analysis. I don't know what the actual literary analysis of it is. He represents an undomesticated human. And the people in the ward are humans that couldn't function in what he calls society the combine.

They couldn't function in the combine. So they're being brought into the asylums to get like re-domesticated so they could function in the combine. And he represents like an undomesticated human who enters into like a conditioning center designed to melt people back down, build them back up and send them out into the world and be good functioning domesticated humans. be good functioning domesticated humans it's so good it's so subversive dude it's such a brilliant like it's so funny how different the movie is from it like it like nurse ratchet and again because the narrator is chief that native the big native american dude who's in the movie that's the narrator of the book it's being told from his perspective so you don't know like how much of what he's reporting is real and how much is like he's in That's the narrator of the book. It's being told from his perspective. So you don't know like how much of what he's reporting is real and how much is like he's in a mental asylum. Oh, my God.

That's amazing. I know. It's so good. But according to him, Nurse Ratched can control time. she'll speed up time so that like a year goes by in a day or slow down time so that like like a second lasts like 10 years and that's how that's just one of the many ways that they're she's basically torturing the people in the ward oh my god constantly giving them drugs tying them to their beds and and always threat, this like threat is hovering, which is if you fuck up too much, if you get too angry at Nurse Ratched,

who is a monster, essentially the way he describes it, it's the Demiurge, it's the Antichrist, then you know what happens? They're going to fucking give you a lobotomy. They're going to cut out your brain, turn you into a zombie. And you know they really did that. Yeah. They really did you know they really did that yeah they really did

that they really did that they really did that i had a professor in college who used to work at an asylum and was the weirdest dude ever it was an awful class on like psychiatry and he was kind of talking glowingly about lobotomies and And, like, someone asked him, like, I mean, what happened to the person? And he goes, they became a very good patient. Oh, my God. Totally was fine with the fact that they were, like, sticking chopsticks in people's, you know, like, brain-severing. Scrambling the brain. Dude, with a hammer.

Wearing that weird outfit. Why are they dressed like that? You know, they did a lot of those He did it this guy this doctor is credited with the majority of so are they holding this guy down while they're doing this or is He anesthetized. I don't know. I don't see any I see a strap I see straps and I see people holding his arms Jesus Christ, you know fucking terrifying that must be to feel that rod going into your brain and knowing they're going to turn you into a vegetable? Yeah.

Electroshock? Dude. Do you remember that guy that was running for vice president who had to admit that he went through electroshock therapy? No. Yes. through electroshock therapy no yes it was during the mcgovern um nixon campaign eagleton it was mcgovern's campaign right yeah mcgovern was like one of the last hopes he was one of the last like truly rational what you really want out of someone that you consider a liberal.

Someone who's a compassionate, strong person who people thought that, you know, he could win. They thought that he could win. Yeah. 72, over two weeks after the 1972 Democratic Convention, Eagleton admitted the truth of news reports that he had received electroshock therapy for clinical depression during the 1960s. McGovern initially said he would back Eagleton 100%, 1,000% rather, but he didn't. He eventually had to let him go. And that it was too late. Wait, that's what took him out?

That's what took him out. Whoa. Whoa. Yeah. Holy shit. Electroson therapy for depression. Just for depression. Don't people say it works? You would be awarded if you had depression today. Today in this victimhood society.

Oh, right. If you said, this vice president, he suffered from clinical depression, but he sought help, he would be a shining example. Look at him. Yeah. He's like us. He was clinically depressed. He got over it. He's a hero Yeah, and then people would be fine with it. Yeah back then back then it was a giant sign of weakness and They they would shock your brain. Well, I think it works

Well, I've it doesn't have good reason. I would rather not it's a nice smelling song Have you watched videos of it? Because it's like it's not like they're like vaulting you the whole time they put these rods on your head And you like convulse for a second. It's very disturbing. Maybe it's like a reset like control alt delete for your brain Maybe it's like yeah, maybe it's much. Maybe it's doing like something similar to what the psychedelics are doing It's bringing you to a near-death experience because your body thinks it's being electrocuted. Yeah, it releases all those Psychedelic chemicals. Yeah, they think it releases when you're in near-death experiences Did you see that they think they found the mechanism for why psilocybin treats depression?

Like they did some study on rat brains and a petri dish and they were watching the way it interacts with psilocybin Like blocks. Yeah, this is someone getting zapped yeah nice hat for shocking people you have to wear a hat yeah but you don't need to have pop her toes locked up like she got knocked out that's the receipt don't show a whole lot of it but that's it, yeah. There's old ones that really show the whole thing. Dude. I wanted to bring something up, but I kept forgetting. I didn't want to interrupt your rant. I posted this something.

I retweeted something the other day about this boy that was raised by wolves in India. Yeah. Have you ever seen that? No. See if you can find that from a few days ago. I retweeted it. I want to know if it's true. I'm like, I was too lazy to Google it.

I was like, I'm just breaking up with a podcast. Yeah. Well, I just retweeted it. I take no responsibility for retweets. It's the best way to fact check is just tweet something. Also, retweets for me are just like, hmm, I think this is interesting. Maybe you will too. Right.

That's what I do it for. So this is it. The Wolf Child in 1889. Wow, how do you say that word? Balandashar? Balandashar. Balandashar region of the Indian forest. There resided Dina Sanichar, a feral child of merely six years old.

Sanichar lived amidst a wolf pack, adapting to their ways and partaking in their activities. This remarkable case serves as a vivid demonstration of the impact of environmental factors on human behavior. It exemplifies how the availability of resources, the upbringing, environment, and the ability to adapt to surroundings during childhood can shape an individual's physical and mental abilities ultimately ensuring survival i mean this is kind of what we've been talking about yeah totally man look at that kid look at his face that's crazy i mean this is probably why you should be very careful about who your friends are because like you you know maybe we look like our dogs but definitely like in a group of friends you like warp you will shift into like something that like harmonizes with all of them so how about girls who like become boyfriends with serial killers and they go and kill people together they pick up girls and kill them together so crazy people have. Crazy. Like that's a real thing that's happened more than once where a guy will be a serial killer and he'll convert his girlfriend to becoming a serial killer and they kill people together.

What does that conversation start off like? According to Snopes, the only thing that's not true about that story is that he wasn't the only kid. Oh, wow. He was at least one of two at that time, they found. Oh, wow. There might have been a couple more. Wow. That's crazy.

Oh, my God. Raised by wolves. You know. Look at him. It's like he got trained by a wolf. It's the reverse situation. Look at that. He took up the habit of smoking cigarettes.

Wouldn't you if you were surrounded by wolves for your whole childhood? I can't even relax. It says there's at least five other. What the fuck? At least five other? Did he learn how to talk and everything? No, it said that he never learned how to speak. Wow.

Damn. This reminds me of that video we played a few times from Dark White Underbelly, that family. Yeah. a few times from Dark White Underbelly, that family. Yeah. The Boy and Sleeman story died within five... died a few months after being brought back to human society.

Couldn't deal with it. He smoked out of the wolf's den. Where did he get cigarettes? No. Did he? Is that what they were saying? It said he smoked out of the wolf's den. That's kind of weird, right? So he lived in the wolf den? They kept him there?

Look, where was it? Scroll. Wait. The boy in Sleeman's story, like the boy who smoked out of the wolf's den, died a few months after being brought back to him. No, it says like was smoked out of the wolf den. Oh, what? Oh. Picture it.

Like smoke him out. Like George Bush. We're going to smoke him out of their holes. Okay, I got you. He wasn't like. Remember when W said that? Oh, my God. We're going to smoke him out of their holes. Oh, picture him. Like, smoke him out. Like George Bush. We're going to smoke him out of their holes. Okay, I got you. He wasn't like... Remember when W said that? Oh, my God. We're going to smoke him out of their holes.

Oh, my God. Dude, did you see that weird shit with Lindsey Graham? Like, the way he's like, we're going to kill Russians. Like, it's the creepiest shit you ever saw. Did you see that? No, I didn't. Dude, it's so spooky. Let me see it.

You'll have to... I don't know where I saw it, but he's with Zelinsky. I just started getting a stomachache. Dude, it's- Just you saying that. I started getting a stomachache. The way he talks about murdering people is really unnerving. You know where I saw it?

I saw it on Tucker Carlson's first Twitter episode. Did you see that? No. Tucker Carlson's new show on Twitter. So what is the show? It's just him like doing a monologue, basically. It's like a monologue. So it's like his old show.

It's like his old show, but now he's been like unmuzzled. So it's like free base Carlson. He's like going hard. And, you know, it's weird. It's like these days days I think a sign that you're looking at a real journalist is you worry about them you're like they're gonna yeah you gotta shut up man like you should they're gonna get you man what are you doing are you safe because it gives you that it gives you that feeling And you know what's really interesting about it?

I get people on the left are furious with him. And just like people on the right hate Rachel Maddow or whatever. But he was mocked for talking about the UFO wreckage stuff. People in the comments were like, he's talking about UFOs. Like he saw a crop circle and talked about it not like let's let's hear it here it is live free yes and we will be and the russians are dying it's the best money we've ever spent thank you so much but i expect in the coming days and weeks for the utrainian counter-offensive to yield results.

And I'm here to tell you that the last chapter of the Battle of Bakhmut is yet to be written. I'm here to tell you that the Russian military is about to have holy hell unleashed upon them. That kind of guy you don't want running anything. You don't want that guy.

You don't want that guy running a fucking Starbucks. Yeah, I don't want, he's a, that was creepy. Just the way, to talk that way about something with so much weight on it. Yeah, I mean, at the point that you're like. He's talking like he's in a movie you're celebrating human the human debt like essentially the human sacrifice of conscripts like you're celebrating human sacrifice and and and some it's human sacrifice that we've written off as being okay russia gave him there's an arrest warrant out for him for those comments that he made from russia he said my crime was speaking truth to power.

God damn, I hate that phrase. That phrase gets fucking thrown around by a lot of morons. You know, I mean, I know it's a real phrase and when they mean it, I get it. But my crime was speaking truth to power. That fucking freaks me out. It freaks me out. Hawks are creepy, dude. power that fucking freaks me out it freaks hawks are creepy dude like it's like somehow they've managed to get to a place where they can publicly celebrate human violent human like the fail just

essentially like if war is a failure of humanity right like that's so people like him are celebrating the the death you're not like it doesn't matter if you're doing the right thing you those are still people it's also the way he's talking he loves it it just i don't want anyone who gets to make those choices to talk like that says my crime was speaking truth to power said graham russia has illegally invaded ukraine putin has committed war crimes on an industrial level And I'm going to keep talking about it. Freedom allows you to say the things I said. We live in a country where you can criticize your leaders. Well, that's kind of true, but it's just what, what you said with the magnitude of the weight of your words, it's on the line and the whole world's listening and that's what you said yeah

the best money we ever spent like that's a crazy thing to say the whole thing is and the russians are dying we're gonna it's not a fucking football game man exactly like this isn't a sport exactly like what you like just like you can can you can clearly from like the micro, there are times where you're going to have to use violence in a society. There's times where someone's losing their mind swinging a samurai sword in the middle of the street or whatever. And like cops have to take them out. There's obviously, this is obvious. But like to then like celebrate that you had to like kill a lunatic or something is so dark like why not collect their scalps lindsey graham if you're so into this shit why don't we

start scalping the fucking russians we'll just cut pieces start wearing a a net a necklace of Russian fingers. You know, if you're so into murdering people and also ignoring the demographics of the people who are getting fucking slaughtered. I mean, you can see videos of them being dragged out of their houses and taken to the middle of Ukraine to just get thrown into a fucking blender, dude. And that's what he's tap dancing about. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. And that way of talking that he just did is like, it's a standard politician's way of addressing a very complex issue.

They do it with like, there was a rah-rah aspect to that. We're going to unleash holy hell on them russians pep rally pep rally pep rally for murdering people dude yeah because it is a football thing like saying it like that that's like we're gonna go fucking kick their ass it's a team right and but for sure there is no financial motivation in what lindsey cramp is doing no one would do that no all that money is just a coincidence yeah yeah it's so fucking dark man like you it's really so confusing to me like because i guess i'm a naive idiot that people like that even exist well also the the exist on the left now that's what's weird. Yeah.

Oh, you mean like because the – yeah, right. Because the general like – Lindsey Graham, is he a Democrat or Republican? Republican. He's a Republican. Right? He's a Republican. So they're all united on this idea.

Of course he's a Republican. But they're all united on this idea that they should continue. There's no one, whether it's a republican or a democrat like the democrats are always anti-war always oh yeah always oh yeah this is the first time where the democrats are like wholesale buying the narrative and we have to stop putin we have to support ukraine i mean how many democrat peaceful people that used to have syringes in their Twitter bio now have a Ukraine flag? Right. Yeah.

If you articulate just the general common sense reality that war, we don't want war. We don't want war. That we want, we don't want anyone to die want we don't want anyone to die i don't want russians to die or ukrainians to die we want to elevate our species to the point where somehow we can get along with each other without like resorting to incinerating people and because the message is coming for from trump the people completely dismiss it but did you see that interview with him where he said we i would end the the ukraine war in a day right and he said do you not want ukraine to win do you want russia to win he goes no i want people to stop

dying yeah yeah i saw that dude it perfect. You're allowed to say that. Let's find that. Because they're playing gotcha on a subject. They're doing gotcha interview real quick. You don't have much time with them, so you've got to get a gotcha. And they're doing this with a subject that literally has the fate of the world in front of it. Right. Because if nuclear war breaks out because of all this,

and these people are just flippantly supporting this continued conflict with no talk at all about some sort of a compromise. Yeah. Some sort of a conversation. Or just starting a conversation. Just starting one. Let's hear what he says. If I were president and I say this, I will

end that war in one day. It'll take 24 hours. I know Zelensky well. I know Putin well. I would get that ended in a period of 24 hours. You can break that deal. 100%. It would be easy. That deal would be easy a lot of it has to do with the money a lot of it has to do with the military you know that we're giving but i

would get that deal done within 24 hours that war has to be stopped that war is a disaster final thought are you going to win next year cool sacks. No, that's not. Very good chance. That's not the same interview. There was another interview. A woman was interviewing him, I believe, and she asked, I think it was a woman, asked if he wanted Russia to win. It was some weird gotcha interview. He said, I want people to stop dying. Yeah, this is it.

That's the CNN thing. Yes. dying. Yeah, this is it. That's the CNN thing. Yes. Yeah. Let me just put it nice away. If I'm president, I will have that war settled in one day, 24 hours. How would you settle that war in one day? Because I'll meet with Putin.

I'll meet with Zelensky. They both have weaknesses and they both have strengths. And within 24 hours, that war will be settled. It'll be over. It'll be absolutely over. Do you want Ukraine to win this war? I don't think in terms of winning and losing. I think in terms of getting it settled so we stop killing all these people and breaking down this

country. I paraphrased it. I fucked it up. But that's essentially his answer. I think maybe even after that, he might have actually said, I want people to stop dying. It's crazy that that's a controversial statement. And it's crazy that people can't, like, because he's saying it, they invalidate it. Exactly. It's so weird.

Like, you know, like, the truth. The idea is there's the truth. like the truth the idea is there's the truth and and that it doesn't matter like if it's coming out of like a radio that has like woven into it human skull fragments that manson owned the radio it doesn't matter if the radio is spewing truth that's truth it's truth i and i always thought that was sort of the general consensus like among people who were saying was it's not good to blow each other up and i you know i get it's like okay well then what about when invasions happen what about when land grabs happen when some news creepy imperialism happens or hitler happens or whatever what about that but like look at the fucking letter gandhi wrote a letter to hitler did you

ever see that yeah you know like the idea is like you just try it's like worth trying like get people to talk hang out sit down even if you can't fail worse than war right so so so any attempt at like stopping a war without world war three or violence or whatever it's it's glorious even if it fails even if it makes you look like a a weak pathetic piece of shit long term you're gonna look great if you were a peacemaker in the world versus a Lindsey Graham. Yeah. The Lindsey Grahams, man. History does not look at them in a kind way.

No. They're the evil characters. When you watch a YouTube video on 9-11, it's these people behind the scenes. It's these people that lie about weapons of mass destruction. It's like, there's like a type of person that you see that gets into office. And there's this like, there's this shameless politician aspect of them that just gives me the creeps. Dude.

Just, it gives me the creeps. And anybody talks like that about war because it's so consequential. Everything's on the line. Humanity's on the line. Civilization's on the line. The future consequential everything's on the line humanities on the line civilizations on the line the future of your children's on the line everything's on the line and to like make it and boil it down to a rah-rah football pep rally speech is crazy you know an ai wizard out there who wants to do some kind to do something that will probably be very controversial needs to put together a montage of the videos of all the drones blowing up Russians and replace the adults with kids so that you see the children version of them being blown up. Because that's the weird thing about it.

Once you get to a certain height, at that point, we celebrate you getting exploded. But, you know, like if kids were doing this shit, like we would end it immediately regardless. This is like, I don't, if my kids are squabbling and like one of them bites the other or something or like whatever, like it doesn't matter anymore about the fairness or whatever's happening. It's like, we gotta, you can't do that. Stop the violence. Right. Yeah, man. It's, it's, that's the thing is like for, to conduct a successful war, you really have to disconnect from the human reality of who is fighting the wars if you sounds per goes

I did his name per goes in the the guy who runs his own like battalion the private contractor Who is like fighting Bachmuth that that crazy guy? I'm not I don't know where basically that any there's a video that popped up of like someone getting their head smashed in with a hammer It was you know that so it's like these people is who is that that got his head smashed in he was somebody who didn't want to fight anymore that's what it was yeah and to send the signal out like this is what happens if you try to run away we'll just smash your head in oh jesus christ so it's like the so he was a fellow russian yes yeah man i mean that's the idea. It's like, stop.

Just know that the people who are out there thought it was a training mission, apparently. And if they try to defect and get out of there or whatever, they're probably going to get killed. So it's not like you're— Was that a Russian guy that got killed or a Ukraine guy that got killed? I thought it was a Russian dude. As you're saying it, I'm reading about him. Do you think—he says he recruited prisoners. Is there any chance he, I don't know, said he recruited, this is the guy that got killed? Progrozian is the guy who controlled the troops, I think.

Is he the guy that got killed with the hammer? I don't think so. No. No. The guy that got killed with the hammer was just a soldier. A soldier. What am I talking about? This marijuana is just too strong.

I can't follow the narrative. You know what? I saw you go deeper than that. this time i didn't do it and so many of these episodes i forget the potency of this what you have here it's so good but yeah man like so this guy ordered people out there and then when people said uh hey this isn't a fucking training run. This is a real war. Yeah. I don't want to fight in this war. That's what I read.

I don't know if that's true. And they killed that guy with a hammer. The guy seemed like resigned to his fate. Dude. It's crazy. The thing is, when you, so like the big critique of Russia that Lindsey Graham has is you get arrested if you say anything, right? Yeah.

Russia that Lindsey Graham has is you get arrested if you say anything, right? Meaning if we have prisoners who've been quote recruited fighting out there, then Russia is sending anti-Putin people into a meat grinder to die. So you spoke out against Russia. You've been in a Russian prison. You get recruited. And then they just send you into all of these weapons given to ukraine by the western world you're just dead it's a death sentence so that's the you know so when you break it down at that level suddenly these aren't it's like these fucking russians are like let me go invade the place where my mother-in-law lives right you know it's like it's not like that it's like many of them are having they have to do it you there's you just can't there's no way out unless you want to

die so you have to choose like which way do i want to die i want to get blown up by some fucking ukrainian drone or do i want to get my head smashed in or just on youtube. On YouTube. Yeah. It's really fucked up, man. In all fairness, I think YouTube would take that down. I think they changed it. I think they're changing. Aren't they? Did I dream that YouTube was like loosening up so we could watch those videos again on YouTube?

Really? I could be wrong, but I feel like there was some shift in their censorship model that was happening, but I could be wrong about that feel like there was some shift in their censorship model that was happening but i could be wrong about well it's not when it comes to rfk jr they're they're deleting his old podcasts they deleted one from theo vaughn from a year ago and they had deleted one from hot boxing with mike dyson which is more than a year ago too i did not know that they just did it what the fuck they just started doing that. That isn't that illegal if someone's running for president to you can't do that, right?

I don't know what you could say that it's because of misinformation. And this is, you know, because he talks about vaccines and, you know, he talks about he was environmental attorney before he was an environmental attorney before he, you know, was anything. And, you know, his whole thing was trying to hold companies accountable for what they're doing by ruining the environment and lying about it. And for them to take that guy and say, you can't do that with other stuff. You can't talk about other stuff. Like, how come no one wants to hear him out? How come no one wants to hear him out with... That book, The Real Anthony Fauci, is fucking terrifying.

And if it's not true, why isn't he getting sued? If that book is true, if all the things that he's saying, and he has references for everything, if it's all accurate, we should all read that book. Everyone should read that book. Right. Because if it's true, it's terrifying. You've been captured by an industry that's forced you into becoming a source of income for them.

Dude, censorship is, has this component of condescension in it that is really like that to me is the the worst part is essentially you're saying You're too dumb To parse this information in a rational way. Yeah, so we're gonna protect you from it because it's like a poison It's gonna infect your brain and we have to protect you. That is really like like first of all If you do like that's bad parenting in general. You know what I mean? Like the idea would be that you like teach your kid to confront false things, learn why they're not real.

And then instead of like trying to prevent your kid from seeing like everything, you know, I mean, I don't obviously like I'm not letting my kid watch Blade Runner or some shit like that. But just that if you get too overprotective with your kids, like try to hide death from them, for example, that sort of thing. Like you've got to trust we can deal with it. It's safe for us to encounter all forms of information. Well, the problem is. What? When the time they're real little, you're lying to them. Santa Claus is going to come to bring you all the toys gonna come down the chimney and he's gonna

magically appear yeah just teach your kid what the word egregore means and you can do santa claus ethically what's egregore egregore is like the name for like a thing that exists within the minds of a lot of people it's an egregore so like if enough people believe in something does it have a material reality not necessarily but within the psychic mind space it's real it's right like santa claus is a thing yeah an egregore santa claus is an egregore there's no obviously there's no real santa cla, but there is a very vivid living entity within the interconnected minds of everyone who believes in it. That's an egregore. The problem is if you tell your kid that Santa's an egregore and then your kid's going to tell all the kids at school and then you're the asshole.

That's the problem. I'll be honest, Joe. I have not told my kid Santa's an egregore. I just thought of it. I'm like, maybe I'll do egregore this Christmas. But yeah, you're right. There's like a battle. Like you get kids together, you know,

and you talk to parents like, have you done the Santa Claus talk? No. Like how old are they? They're five, five and six. Like if you get to that age where you're like, okay, when are you going to tell these kids? When do you tell?

When do you tell them? They don't like it when you tell them either. They get very sad. So is that what these people think about us? But it's weird that they grow up with a lie. That's what I don't like. You grow up with a lie. It's a stupid lie.

And you convince a child that this lie that we all have mutually agreed upon. It's fucking kind of, Santa Claus is kind of dangerous. mutually agreed upon it's fucking kind of santa claus is kind of dangerous because it sets people up at a very early age for the reality that the possibility rather that everything you believe in is bullshit it's misinformation joe but everything you believe in is propaganda it's propaganda by your parents to get you to be good. Yeah. You better be good. You better be nice. Better than hell. At least you're not doing the hell thing.

Santa Claus is coming to town. He knows when you are sleeping. He knows when you're awake. He knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake. He's breaking child predator laws by monitoring kids Santa Claus is like the ultimate overlord in the sky. It's a panopticon man It's a fucking materialistic panopticon you're being constantly monitored by some mythical North Pole

Thing that's probably like I guarantee if we look at the way Santa is paying those fucking elves, I guarantee it's like, they don't want to be there. Elves don't want to be in the North Pole. The whole thing's fucked up. You had elf on the fucking shelf. You know about elf on the shelf? We had to do that.

Now you have like a little fucking plastic security camera that's watching your kids all the time. If they touch it, its magic so you hilarious so you put into the kids this like neurotic thing it's like think of how many kids have touched elf on the shelf and not told their parents and live with that guilt like knowing they fucking depleted the elf's magic it's not coming back this is sinister at one level you, it's is really fucking weird. It's lies and it's lies that are unnecessary it's not lies about like Something stupid it's lies about the like whether or not there's elves flying around your fucking house

Like you're getting your kids to believe in nonsense like very early on instead of just like reading fun books where they know it's pretend right you can just pretend and also when you realize like the whole thing is just connected to getting the economy to get a little better once a year you know what i mean the whole thing is just to drive up the fucking economy by manipulating children into believing in a fucking Santa Claus. That is wild. Yeah. You were saying something about psilocybin, the psilocybin study, about something about

connecting to brain and memory. You're saying what they recently discovered. Yeah, they did some study. The article I read was really funny because they're like, okay, we found the receptors that psilocybin is working on. And the way it affects the receptors is a thousand times more potent than antidepressants. And now that they know where these receptors are, theoretically, they could invent a medicine that doesn't get people high. It's so sad. Oh, no.

You're celebrating that? Like, why? We already have the medicine. The medicine works. Why do we need to synthesize that? It grows out of the ground. But they're like, now that we understand it, we can synthesize it and take away one of the best things about it. Duncan, we figured it out, and it's the best money ever spent.

God damn. Same people. Yeah, exactly. Same people. Exactly. Instead of saying, saying hey we should legislate we should change the laws like we really need to rally about this this is an actual important medication for humanity yeah it actually could make people nicer it might have made people people just the problem is it's apparently too easy to grow those fucking mushrooms, man.

Yeah, they want to be here. It's too easy. Yeah. So it's like you can't grow an antidepressant. Like you can't fucking create a Lexapro aquarium. That's exactly what the problem is. And we're captive. We're captive by this industry that uses you to make money on a regular basis

and will oppose anything that gets in the way of that profit even if that thing is overall net positive for humanity which psilocybin is horrible dude i just revisited the thalamide thing you ever look into that thalidomide thalidomide thank you that shit like for like you know it's kind of like the united states does the what's the name of the incident they did in vietnam that triggered the war like the gulf of tompkin so they do that and then we get in a stupid war okay then we get the yellow the what's yellow cake the yellow cake thing to justify the invasion of uh iraq right comes out that wasn't real we we just buy into that somehow now we got better like now it all makes sense so the thalidomide

it's like it's a perfect example of a pharmaceutical company pushing shit that they knew was hurting kids they wanted to sell it in the united states they knew it was fucking kids up they somehow warped the studies in a way they warped them so much it was one woman i can't remember who who was like they were trying to get the the right to sell in the united states and she's looking at the study like this is too good like something is off here like this doesn't make sense for any like generally anything has like more side effects than this shit that they gave uh whoever she was i wish i could remember her name but the point is man like to imagine that stopped to imagine like that was the only time that's happened and that will never happen again with

pharmaceutical companies is really crazy well it's really crazy that all it took was the only time that's happened, and that will never happen again with pharmaceutical companies. It's really crazy. Well, it's really crazy that all it took was the pandemic for people to think that way. But the problem is the way you think about it with the information that you have about thalidomide and with the information you have about the opioid crisis. The Sacklers. The Sacklers, yeah. And they just got immunity. They gave up immunity for like $6 billion.

Wow. They bribed. Yeah, they bribed. They bought their immunity. I mean, they lied. The companies they owned lied. They got people addicted. They lost lives.

So many lost lives. Yeah, dude. So many lost lives. Vioxx, the Vioxx scandal. They killed 60,000, 50, 60,000 people in America. Same with thalidomide, by the way. Apparently no one went to jail for that shit. Like nobody went to jail. But the thing is, that's how that business is. That business has always been like that. And we're one of two countries in the whole planet earth that allows them to advertise. Those commercials

are so weird, Joe. They're psyops. Every commercial's a psyop. Every commercial makes you think that you're going to be at that barbecue. You're like, I don't have any friends, but if I take this, I'll be laughing and I'll be on that raft with everybody else, going down the river, having a good old time. That's what I need.

That's what I need. I can't get that song out of my head. All I needed was a little fucking electric pad on each ear. I'm better now. Thank you. Or some psilocybin or exercise or all of the above. Yeah, man. Except for the electric shock.

Yeah. They shouldn't be allowed to advertise and they should not be allowed to have any lobbyists affecting our government. And the amount of money they're making right now, bro, they want to keep making that money. That's the thing about money. When a corporation has growth, when they have massive growth, like these pharmaceutical drug corporations had when they were manufacturing a medication that everybody had to take,

when they make that money and then it's over, they don't want to go back to, like, 2018 levels. Fuck that. You can't. You know, we've got to figure out a way to sell more. Yeah. Or come up with some new thing. And I think when you get in those corporations,

when you're working in them, it's a filter bubble. So, like, you know, if you look at corporations as cults, you know, there's a cult-like aspect to corporations. So you get into the cult and then over time you get indoctrinated into like resonating with whatever their particular version of reality whatever their reality tunnel is and so when i think in that reality tunnel they truly believe that everything they're doing makes sense that it's good to do that it's all justified because they some of them when confronted they seem authentically shocked That everything they're doing makes sense, that it's good to do, that it's all justified.

Because some of them, when confronted, they seem authentically shocked. Like they seem like, wait, we're trying to help. Like they don't seem to have connected to how weird it is to have that massive a profit margin when it comes to giving people medicine to heal them you know what i mean like the idea being just generally you should not be profiting off of diabetics at the level you are with insulin you know like generally selected top diabetes drugs is expected sales in 2020 and 2024 wow they make a lot of money on diabetes drugs jesus christ so with these diabetes drugs they make a lot of money off this stuff and if people all got healthy that would all go away exactly so then there's that weird you know if you want to sell umbrellas you need a terrain so then you know weirdly the moment you start making mega

profit off of people's sickness you have an in like under the surface of everything you need people to be sick to continue to take those great fucking vacations yeah like and so so that's where it gets really creepy right that's the creepy part. You need them to be ill. You want them to be ill. And then, you know, I don't know. Have you looked up? I don't know the exact amount. But apparently there's a huge percentage of money coming into networks from the pharmaceutical companies.

Like it's holding them up, which is why, you know, I guess you could just understand how much money they're getting. Just every time you see a pharmaceutical company commercial come on on anything you're watching, make note of that. And then you can see how much that programming is being paid for by these companies. Dude, that's really spooky, man, because then they become kind of the de facto government. Then they become kind of the de facto government. Yeah. They become sort of like the communications mouth of the country.

Yeah. I mean, because that's essentially what news anchors are. Do you see, is it true this thing about Anderson Cooper that they're saying? That he was given $12 million to promote vaccines? Somebody posted that on Twitter. $12 million? And I was like, what? That they gave him $12 million to promote vaccines during the pandemic?

That's definitely reshaping everything. His contract is for $12 million a year. So that's just his contract with CNN. So why are they saying it like that? But I think it was like a fairly reputable source, right? I mean, I just typed in Anderson Cooper, 12 million. There's articles from a couple of years ago about that's what he reportedly earns. Right.

And says he won't leave his son in his inheritance because he comes from a very rich family. Right. But was it 12 million on top of that that they asked him? Did you find that? To promote vaccines. How would someone know that? I don't know. But maybe they do.

Maybe they don't. But let's find out. So it says Anderson Cooper was given $12 million to promote vaccines. Yeah, there's a website called, it's not a reputable website, that says Pfizer pays millions to CNN for COVID jab promotion, which is like, that's. Well, they pay for ads. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's what that is.

Okay, so that's a slippery way of phrasing things, just like that other stupid fucking headline. You can't really... What was the other stupid headline again that drove us nuts? Oh, about Al Pacino. Yeah. Yeah, that.

Yeah, you just can't skim. How gross is that? But that stupid headline was crazy because that made it look like, oh my God, there's money, grubbing whore yeah and he's mad and he got a paternity test he's like not so yeah i love it that my loads work they you know i think that you know the issue is is regardless of whether someone's writing someone a check or whether or not it's just in your paycheck from the company that's getting checks from another place, it's just like it's adding this extra. It's like the people who put their money in the Cayman Islands or whatever.

It's like adding this extra layer to you getting money from those corporations. It's also what they do at firing squads, right? We only put – Yeah, there's only so many people those corporations. Yeah. It's also what they do at firing squads, right? We only put... Yeah, there's only so many people have bullets. Right. So if you want to ignore the reality that some of the journalism you're doing is being warped a little bit by the network, potentially. I don't know if this happens.

I'm guessing it does. What? Probably doesn't. Maybe doesn't man i've you know they really think that i'm a little stoned right now i get it but you know it creates this ability for you to sort of like cope with that cognitive dissonance so like you don't have to like go home and think am i really a journalist what you might have seen breaking robert kennedy Jr. claims that 80% of Anderson Cooper's $12 million salary comes from Pfizer. I read an article that was saying that he was,

I can't find the interview yet, but in an interview he said that 10 million of that 12 is coming directly from Pfizer, and he's promoting it separately, but I don't know where he got that information from. Can you find what percentage of advertising dollars for CNN comes from pharmaceutical companies? Not CNN specifically, but in that same article I was seeing with this, he makes the claim, which we've read before, is that 75% of advertising revenues in the mainstream media comes from that.

But I just found an article from February. It says at least for TV that's down, but it's because they're changing the spending to digital buys. You see they fired the CNN guy? The top guy again? Who? The guy who's only been there for a year. Oh, yeah. My wife was telling me something like that.

Because it keeps imploding. CNN's imploding. All right. Yeah. They just can't seem to get the air back in the tire, can they? They've got a stink on them. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, they do yeah they kept on lemon in there too long fuck they kept him in the box too long dude didn't like him they felt like he was you know naked and afraid don lemon tucker carlson that's how he comes back yeah i got my money on tucker yeah well he fish he's like yeah i don't know if don lemon's a fisherman but I think Carlson's like gonna like if I bet Carlson will bring a fishing pole like you know that you can bring two things or something like that he'll probably bring his fishing pole what does Lemon bring I don't know alone would be better alone is the best show so much that's the best they

throw you to the wolves you buy yourself with with a bow and arrow and a hatchet. So good. You get three things. You get a bucket. I was hooked on that show. So fun to sit on your couch eating and watching these people out there starving. I had a guy who was on who won it, Jordan Jonas. It was a ringer if there was ever a ringer because he's lived in siberia right with like the the indigenous tribes and that's the unfair part of the show yeah they're

putting people like that against like people they found at a bar or like i want to be on tv or it's just some girl who's hot and wants a lot of like yeah you know money for her instagram they're out in the wilderness for two days and they're like, I have to see my kids. They're out. But if you're going to do a show like that, you're not going to get that much attention for quitting. And there's a lot of money

if you win, right? What do they win? Half a million dollars? I don't remember, but it's a shit ton. I think it's a lot. Is it half a million? Yeah. So you're going to get ringers for the most part. You're going to want a shit ton. I think it's a lot. Yep. Is it half a million? Yep. Yeah. So you're going to get ringers for the most part. You're going to want a real competition. You know,

like the more episodes you get, the longer these people stay in and the more episodes you get, right? Yeah, man. Yeah. You want them.

And they're by themselves filming themselves. And the more drama, man, the more views you're going to get. So like, you know. So they only stop to visit them to give them batteries

and shit, right? I just, I don't understand the filming process because like because I was looking at some of the shots and it's like, how are they getting these shots? They set up cameras. They have a tripod and they're supposed to set up their camera and then film things

so that they're doing certain things. It's just all the survival shit to imagine before commencing with your survival activity. You're setting up a gopro on a tripod yeah but hunters do that oh they do oh i didn't know that yeah that's cool yeah they actually have some they have one that actually is a iphone like it's a magnetic thing for your iphone that sits on your front stabilizer i'm sorry sorry, I forget the name of it, but it's pretty cool. So, like, when you draw your bow back, you can actually press record on your iPhone

and film the flight of the arrow with your iPhone. That's so cool. So you can film the animal coming in. You can film the flight of your arrow. And it's actually good for, like, for ethical reasons because you can see whether or not you made a perfect shot. And so if you made a perfect shot and so if you made a perfect shot just let the animal die and don't freak it out chase it you see where it

goes right you could follow the trail because you're visually looking at the film like you shut off to the right there he goes and they do that all the time so if you wanted to set up like people do that all the time in deer hunting. They set up cameras. They have, like, camera arms they have on tree stands and shit. Have you ever seen those? No. This whole show is dedicated to whitetail hunting out of a tree stand. Like, it's like, it is a religion in the Midwest. Whitetail hunting?

Whitetail hunting is a religion. It's the number one hunted animal, big game animal in North America. Whitetail deer. Dude, people become obsessed with it. number one hunted animal big game animal in North America did white-tailed deer do they people become obsessed with it they become obsessed to the point where they create habitat for the deer to live like they buy enormous farms and set up food plots holy so they're feeding the deer essentially with food right they have alfalfa like growing everywhere yeah you're just are constantly in their area eating and then they hide in trees and wait until the wind is right

So you don't want to like a northeast wind that's like blowing the wrong way So your scent is going all over the field you don't want that So you want to get the right tree stand with the right wind and you sneak in on these animals that have been growing Eating your fucking alfalfa for years and years and years and jacked and looking good and all sudden one day He's out there eating and fuck he feels an arrow goes through his ribcage Jesus Christ, yeah But here's the other ethical dilemma what they don't have any predators. I mean there's occasional mountain lions Oh, yeah, right

Coyotes like how are you keeping these populations down because the number of car accidents that people have with deer and like Iowa alone It must be off the charts. We've done that before right where we looked at the number of car accidents that people have with deer and like iowa alone is must be off the charts we've done this before right where we looked at the number of car accidents per year isn't it like it's something bonkers yeah the number of car accidents per year in the united states it's it's a crazy number you ever had a deer run in front of your car yes dude it's so scary it's like they're. It's so fast. Oh, yeah. And they fuck up. They make bad choices. Yeah. They just decide to like, especially when you're around here and it's like November,

December, January. Be careful. Because that's when they're horny. And that's when they're trying to fuck. And they will run right out into traffic. And they chase does. They're chasing does because they're trying to fuck them and the does don't want to fuck them.

So the does will run right into traffic. Dude, how weird is it that horniness has the exact same component through all species, right? Like a horny human will also run in front of a car, will also do stupid shit. It's so weird. It really makes you dumb when you're horny. 100%.

According to State Farm, between July 21 and June 22, they're down 5.5% from the previous 1.9 million animal collisions, and 67% of those are deer. 202 deaths. So it's like over a million are deer almost. Or probably 1.1 or 2 million are deer collisions. Holy shit, dude. 202 people killed by deer. That is nuts. My friend Cam Haynes in his hometown, or near his hometown rather,

some guy hit a deer with his car and it flew through the air and came through the window and killed the guy behind him. Jesus Christ. Just impaled him in his seat. Are you liable for that? How could you be? If you ping-ponged a deer? Like, is that?

I mean, I'm sure you're in the conversation. Because you hit the deer first. But, you know, if you're on the highway and you hit a deer, whose fucking fault is it? Like, you can't stop quick enough when you're going 60 miles an hour. Holy fuck. Which state do you think is number one? For getting animals hit? Mm-hmm.

Well, you have to think of cars driving a lot through interstates. Kansas? Ohio. Neither are in the top ten. Really? What's the top? Iowa? Iowa's number ten.

Wow. What's number one? West? Iowa's number 10. Wow. What's number one? West Virginia. Oh, that makes sense. They must be infested in those hills up there. And then Montana. Dude, that's- Montana's number two?

Yeah. Wow, Montana. You could do like a cemetery of just people killed by deer. Yeah. That is so, I had no idea, man. Like, that's so creepy. Yeah, that's fucked. To think your whole life you're thinking you're going to do a heart attack or old age and a fucking deer is going to, like, slam into you one night.

You get up in the morning going, you know what? That's it. No more sugar. I'm cutting sugar out of my diet. I'm going to start taking yoga again. I'm going to find a yoga class. Yeah. And then fucking deer through the face.

Look at that, dude. That's so fucked up. Yeah. All sorts of crazy. It happens all the time. And a lot of times when they come through, their guts come through too. So it's not just a deer that comes through.

It's like you hit it and then it goes through your windshield. And when it goes through your windshield, you're just covered in gore. Covered in gore. And you know what? Okay, so like if we found some statistic for how many nighttime handjobs

happen in Ohio when people are driving. Where they get hit by a deer? I'm telling you, a few people are probably... When I say handjobs, what about head? You know what? you got me you kind of like that's more exciting anyway, I've got jobs than Car blowjob. Yeah, I've only gotten a couple of car blowjobs lifetime. It's a dangerous operation. I don't like it It's not for everybody It's it's definitely when you when you're done're like, what the fuck is wrong with me?

Because if you wreck, they could accidentally clench their teeth. Well, yeah, also you could wreck. Like you're not paying attention, you could hit someone. Like you fucking selfish prick. Like, you're going to bite my dick. Like, oh my God. Well, look, man, it's just like... It's just pay attention. You're not supposed to look at your phone while you're driving. You shouldn't be getting your dick sucked. Oh my god Well look man It's just like

It's just pay attention You're not supposed to look at your phone While you're driving You shouldn't be getting your dick sucked You should not be getting your dick sucked Don't look at your phone And don't suck Get your dick sucked

And don't suck anybody's dick either We're getting old I know we're telling people Don't drink Don't drink And don't give car blowjobs Don't give your head While you're driving

What have we turned into What have we turned into? What have we turned into? Santa Claus is a psyop. Yeah, Santa Claus is fake. UFO is probably real. How about that? How about that, man? Oh, my God.

When that guy was talking, when he was explaining that we've retrieved vehicles of non-human origin. And pilots. And pilots. Dude! Yeah. Pilots! Yeah. It is astounding.

Military whistleblower claims U.S. has UFO retrieval program. Air Force veteran David Grush claims the government is covering up UFOs. Grush claims he has seen evidence of a secret crash retrieval program. He alleges the U.S. has even retrieved bodies from other species. That lady looks like an alien. A little bit like a hot older alien. She wants to tell you that you're making big mistakes, Duncan. Yeah, you're making mistakes.

You've become Alpha Centiculi with me. That'd be wild if aliens look like her. Yeah, like a hot Sigourney Weaver in her prime alien that comes to visit you. Please, that would be the best. Like Sigourney Weaver from Alien. Amazing. Oh, my God. You know, people don't talk about that.

When they talk about, like, female heroes of major blockbuster films, like, that's the big one. Yeah. Sigourney Weaver in Alien, that's the big one yeah Sigourney Weaver in alien that's the best cuz you believe every second of it it is completely inconsequential that she's a woman in that movie that's aliens it starts getting sketchy I like aliens get aliens is cool here's the problem aliens why are they so hard to kill an alien but so easy to kill in aliens they got better weapons and then the the big mama can't deal with the fucking slow moving mechanical robot you're right you're yeah you're totally right because like the

first thing was like indestructible yes there was no hope clever it was like it just the opposite of humanity it hid in the escape capsule yeah brilliant remember she has to kill it and shoot it out into space bro have you heard okay here is a like nerdy breakdown of alien that i heard which is really interesting which is horror movies i think this is like like Robert McKee this you know what you like teaches about writing scripts horror movies follow this very predictable pattern and There are all these things that are Across the board in horror movies and one of them is you can't call your mom So you know and what was the name of the ship an alien mother yeah and so

like like there's all these like recurring like archetypical things that pop up in horror movies that freak people out big one is you can't so creepy that we're at this time where all this ufo information is coming out but yet people are still like very reluctant to buy into it or even give it attention it's interesting it's interesting people are like i can't be bothered dude can't be bothered. Dude. Can't be bothered. Listen, because I'm obsessed with it, it's the reaction when you start telling someone, you know, there's now seemingly credible evidence that we have alien spaceships. And to watch them be like, oh, okay. It's so weird. Dude, and it's so weird that like now it's getting picked

up by the mainstream media but there was this insane pause and no one was taught like it it went nowhere and this should isn't this if this is, the most astounding thing in human history? Like one of the top three? It's the most astounding thing. Because it's the thing that everybody has always wondered. Are we alone? Not only are we not alone, but some people know we're not alone. And they're not sharing it with everybody else because they want to profit.

Yeah. Because they want to back engineer these things because they want it for national security reasons because they want to protect us from the possibility that china gets this technology or russia gets this technology and then everybody has spaceships but you're not yeah you're not the decider you don't get to decide right whether or not human beings go from cradle to the grave without information that you have that would literally change the way we think about the universe itself right like for you to hold on to that because you want to win get the fuck out of

here and if this is really if like if some sort of defense contractors are actually involved in this? Yeah. I mean, they can't, look, I don't know anything about what I'm talking about. Right. Right? But when you say the government, oh, the government's back engineering UFOs. When you say the government's building secret hypersonic ships that defy visual. You can't take photos of them. You can't take videos of them. They fly through the sky at insane rates of speed.

Who's making that? It's not them. What do you mean the government? What do you mean? They don't have the capability to construct those things. You have to go to defense contractors. Right. You have to go to the people that make those things.

Like, buddy, why you got to do it by yourself? Listen, I know you don't trust us because we're not the government but listen we work together here We're gonna shut the fuck up to everybody. I'll shut the fuck up. We make this thing I'm gonna fuck it up, and then China's gonna win right again. You gotta get a point got a good point guys Let's all get together, so if you have a spaceship from another planet I do not think that if you're actively trying to back engineer that thing that you're not going to involve defense contractors

right you're not gonna you're not gonna involve people that make jets you're not gonna bring them in no you have to of course a hundred. So then it becomes a thing with them. Imagine them holding on to that. Right. That's their, this is their responsibility. Like we have the information that would literally change mankind. Yeah. I have to lie to my mom.

You know, you're sitting there having a whiskey with the guys after work. I gotta lie to my mom. Yeah. My mom wants to believe that aliens are real. And I'm like, come on, mom, it's all bullshit. Meanwhile, I'm looking at alien spacecrafts seven days a week right like what are we doing guys and all the implications of that like it's it's the the spaceships are the tip of the fucking iceberg like we don't know motivation we like you know assuming all of this stuff is real uh now the question is well what are they

what do they fucking want well there's all this talk of multiple species too so when we say they it's like which ones are we talking about because if you want to go into the motherfucking rabbit hole right if you're going to go deep in the rabbit hole they there's multiple things there's like the grays that everybody talks about. And there's another thing called the tall whites. People have described them. They almost look like Scandinavian or something like that. Like pale skin.

Are these the Nords? Yes. Okay, yeah. And they think that there's different... Like some alien life is probably 100,000 years ahead of us, 700,000 years ahead of us, a million years ahead of us. But some alien life is probably millions and millions of years ahead of us. They probably don't want to fuck with us anymore. Right. I bet the intermediate classes, I bet they're like the watchdogs for the universe to make sure that intelligence reaches that crescendo, that it reaches that moment where you can join the intergalactic hive of minds.

The moment where all the barbaric instincts of our primate DNA are expunged. Right. We don't have any of that anymore. And the civilization reaches some insane harmony with the very universe itself. Right. That's probably where it goes if you don't blow yourself up. But I think anytime there's a hiccup, we go way back to as barbaric as possible and it takes forever for things to relax.

And you're seeing a microcosm of that with COVID. It's what's accelerated all these different social movements. It's what's accelerated all these different people that are what they would call activists. It's accelerated all this. It's just an insane like pause in civilization and then there's this sort of like rapid desire to claim ground and to reformulate and rechange and reimagine and restructure. And the government's going to try to get involved and social groups are going to try to get involved.

There's a money grab and there's donations and you find out that some of the people that are involved in the organization are buying mansions and like don't worry about this mansion i'm out here doing good work yeah and then the like there's so much of that but i think that's a microcosm of what probably happened when the fucking asteroid slammed into us i think when when civilization got wiped, I really believe that it was the worst of the worst. And that's why we have such horrible instincts. I think we're just not far enough removed from that to get it like strung out of your DNA. Yeah. And if you look at like Pinker's work, if you look at any of these people that are studying crime and violence over time like if you just i know about anecdotal experiences i know about your own personal life but you've got to

set that aside for a moment and just look at overall yeah it's getting it's getting lower and lower all the time it's always going lower it's always going except for like weird blips and war it's always going lower less crime. We're trying to figure it out. But if something goes fucking psycho, boom! If Putin says, fuck you! If Putin really does have cancer,

and just fucking, America! Fuck yeah! And then we go back to the worst of the worst. And it takes a long, long, long, long time to get to where we are now right it's 10,000 years yeah it's 10,000 years to get to the goal the place that we've claimed right now and we can stop this in its tracks it is possible like the the forces that are moving this country in the wrong direction this terrifying direction it's

they have power because we've voted them in yeah That's that's a real thing and if you don't vote them in anymore, and then the person you vote in has courage Things can change and if people demand it things can change, but they have to fucking demand it right So then they have to pay attention, and that's a problem right? Yeah, because you get headlines like that you get headlines like that fucking Al Pacino thing right just a lion They're just just trying to get clicks. That's why CNN is dangerous That's why CNN is dangerous because CNN with their biased reporting the way they communicate things people Don't trust the news anymore

Right, that's that's what freaks people out now okay they don't know who to trust anymore so there's this chaos state where people are very uncertain about sources of information and you know what i i must say that is a good thing like i think that the the the weird voodoo that has fallen upon so many people, believing that what's in your phone, what you're looking at is a reflection of truth, is really bad. The problem is that sometimes it is. Well, yeah. That's the problem. The job is you have to discern one from the other.

The idea with educating people wasn't like teach them how to do fucking algebra. It was like teach them how to be rational. Separate truth from non-truth. Because the moment people are incapable of doing that, then they become susceptible to con artistry at the highest level. And the moment that happens, you get all the awful events that have happened throughout history. So the problem is, man, this replication of reality. We're getting secondhand, no matter what it is, if you're watching TV or you're looking at your phone or whatever, you're getting secondhand digitized reality. You've taken fundamental truth, which is

nature, and you've converted it into some kind of warped digital representation of it. And so the more you are sort of harmonizing with that, the less you're harmonizing with just basic fundamental truth. You go outside. You look at the trees. You hear the birds. You know what season it is. That's real. Like that's not misinformation. That's just fundamentally true.

But we've become separated by from that by many many layers of bullshit and you're right and so now what do we have we have like a people who are terrified have you heard the term fear american fear american yeah like americans go to other countries and they're all fucking freaked out and like and and and and just completely anxiety ridden because of the connection to world events or the a reality tunnel that's being presented to them by wizards who are getting gold uh gold from the alchemists that's basically what's happening is the alchemy guild is paying the media wizards and the media wizards are like casting a spell on everyone to believe this very specific reality tunnel that is not real and if

it is temporary it's the very best it's temporarily real but it's it's it's warped it's just slightly distorted that's the problem it's like something in there is true, but it's been distorted in this bizarre way by the media wizards. And now everyone has like lost track of the basic human ability that has to be cultivated to detect bullshit. Like you need to grow that in yourself. You need to be able to look at anything and think, I don't think this is true. Where did this come from? Who's like every time something pops up, You're very good about it on your podcast By the way, you like point it out like wait

What did you say and then you look it up and then if it's not true you admit you were hoodwinked Yeah, but but but that's not happening with most people They're just reading the fucking thing and they're not researching it and my god That is how you get pickpocketed man that's like that's the worst predicament pointing it out that's exactly what it's like you're being mentally pickpocketed yeah man and you're and you're being like warped and manipulated one of the in social psychology one of the weird problems of having a human brain is we remember information we don't remember the source so if I can just give you some bullshit information you will forget I told it to you in

a hot tub when my eyes were dilated and I was just like rambling about something you might accidentally remember that truth is truth because you forgot the source and so your brain spits it out it's like yeah this is reality you don't know that that got implanted into you by someone who wanted you to buy shit you can't remember that great rant sorry man i feel like i have that was amazing you have boogers not coming out of my nose can you see no i don't see anything okay good you need a tissue no it's gone i just was getting neurotic about it you don't want to like be rambling about fucking aliens and pharmaceutical companies the nasty fuck that just makes you more human duncan i hope i am oh it all i feel like it's all like a real example of why we need regulation in that regard. Like you need a government oversight that is completely objective, that's not influenced by money, that decides what people can and can't say.

Like what are the odds? Like let's just get crazy like if if cnn is the news what are the odds that cnn would publish an honest investigative discovery into vaccine injuries it would be amazing if they did i mean if they could you imagine them being able to do that i can't i could see right in a strategy meeting is they're trying to like get the network back up to snuff somebody being like what if we do this and then there's money involved and then I could see

suddenly like maybe at some point but the money involved is from the ads right it would have to go subscription based or something

you have to go back to CNN plus we're reviving CNN plus to do real journalism dude I loved CNN plus did you no you were the only guy

I never fucking watched. Nobody. No one has ever said that. You're like, Brian Stelter has the best book club. CNN Plus definitely like, you know, like at least like the, whatever Fox's subsidiary was. I think that's still available and works. They showed Roseanne Barr's stand-up comedy special on Fox Nation. Yeah, on Fox Nation.

Is that what it is? Is it called Fox Nation? Yeah, Fox Nation. And I'll admit, man, I came close to prescribing. Only because I like to watch Lifetime movies. Do you ever watch Lifetime movies? They don't have them on Fox Nation. Please tell me that's not true. No, they don't have Lifetime movies, but

Fox Nation seemed like a Lifetime movie because they're really veering towards conservative, hyper-moralistic sort of like this. Christian values. Christian values. That's the antidote. But turning the volume up too high on that creates inadvertent comedy. And so I was like, fuck, man, I want to watch that. That's going to be really funny to watch. That's a great thing to watch on Mushrooms.

Watch that on Mushrooms. Oh, my God. It looks so insane. I used to watch OAN. What's that? America's News Network. Is that what it is? I never watched that one.

What was that one that they had? Was it OAN? Yeah, but I don't know. I know. I said it totally wrong.'s uh one american news one american dude what is that it's that it's that it's like turned up to 11 it's trumpism turned up to 12 yeah yeah yeah is it like is that would you describe it it's very much a right-wing channel dude i think you need to take dips in all the propaganda you know like far right pro-trump cable news uh channel founded by Robert Herring senior here's here's the real problem with uh any of those things it's hard to find a good anchor very hard finding someone that can

tell you what's going on or you don't want to stab them. Yeah, dude. It's hard. Really hard. A lot of those people are fucking super annoying. Like, the way they communicate is annoying. Well, dude, you know, they have to read a fucking teleprompter, right? 100%. So it's like they're basically like automatons who have to— And they're scared to lose their job. Of course. They just fired Don Lemon.

They fucking fired him. The smartest, most talented guy in all of broadcasting, and he can't make it. Dude. We're all on the chopping block. Dude, let me tell you, man, the fucking day they cut canned lemon, a quiver went through everyone at CNN like, Jesus fucking Christ, we're all in danger here. All in danger. They got rid of lemon.

They plucked the lemon from the tree and they left this void. Now what? How do you replace lemon? Well, they don't have any stars anymore, right? Do they have Blitzer? Who's exciting about... Is he still on that? Wolf Blitzer.

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Yes, Commander Blitzer. Like a Patrick Swayze type character. Lindsey Graham wants us to kill Russians. Best money we ever spent. Best money we ever spent. Yeah, he's still there. He's been there since 1990. Ah, that's my Blitzer.

Wolfie. What's up, baby? Look at the hair on that bastard. Lucky. Just a fucking devil. Yeah. Beautiful hair on that bastard. Lucky fucking devil. Yeah. Beautiful salt and pepper hair, slick back. You know, receding a little, but dignified.

Dude, that's incredible hair. Blitzer has great hair. Got a great beard. Look at his beard. Good looking fella. Someone does that for him. Great name. Wolf Blitzer.

Oh, yeah. He's well coiffed. He's a star. He's been there since 1990. I got no problem with him. He's the blue that keeps CNN together I don't mind blitzer. I can't remember like I feel like I don't remember the last time I watched blitzer But like there was there's something about him. I liked when I was like watching that shit

Well, he seemed a little you know, he was questioning things. Yeah, we would talk to people He was seemed like he was actually doing a little bit of journalism Yeah, really trying to get to that. So many times you see people like, if you see the, did you ever see the Biden, Don Lemon conversation? No. It's bananas. Can we?

Because it's Don Lemon trying, and first of all, Don Lemon is a fairly catty fellow, right? Like it seems like. Very. It seems like if he didn't like that guy if that was donald trump and he was talking that way he would have jumped all over him right but he's letting joe biden like ramble and just go off and forget what he's talking about and did you get the vaccine yeah it works yeah Yeah. And then I was telling people. Like, it's a wild stream of consciousness.

Like Biden losing his place. You know, sometimes he loses his place. He does it with Don Lemon. And Don Lemon is there just like a curator of a child that was just given some psychoactive drugs and they're bouncing off the walls you just have to watch dude you that's good i probably gave him a fucking stomach ulcer watch this yeah to not be able to call it out but also it's like if this was anybody else so if you're a journalist are you a journalist like are you a human being that is the mouthpiece of america right if you are you a human being that is the mouthpiece of America, right? Are you a human being that is there observing some pretty strange behavior?

And you'd want to, like, expand on that. Like, what are you saying? Like, why are you saying it that way? Like, what is happening to you? Yeah. Are you okay? Can you think clearly? If this was the opposition, this is the thing about having anchors that are so clear.

You're going to have anchors that have opinions, always. Everybody has opinions. But to have an anchor that's so clearly, so rigidly one-sided. So watch this. Play this. Are you okay? I mean, you see, now it works. Or the mom and dad, or the neighbor, or when you go to church, or when you're... No, I really mean it. There are trusted interlocutors. Think of the people. If your kid wanted to find out whether or not there were...

There's a man on the moon or whatever, you know, something. Or, you know, whether those aliens are here or not. You know, who are the people they talk to beyond the kids who love talking about it? Talk to me, bitch. I got the answers. That guy sounds like us. He sounds like us after a couple of hits of laughing gas. Dude, no.

Like Joey's weed? No, man. That's elder abuse, man. That's like, you know, that's kind of like when that's happening, you're going to go, okay, dad. Okay. Okay. We're going to sleep.

Or edibles. I'd like to think he's on edibles dude i don't know man i think this whole thing is just so ridiculous to him he can't believe his son his fucking dropped his laptop off at a fucking repair shop filled with all sorts of evidence of crimes and and dick porn feet porn chaos chaos chaos running amok running amok running amok his kid is just going wild look at that measuring coke it's fresh off the cia plane i like how he measures it though smart even though he's like doing crack he's like let me make sure i don't overdose yeah i mean i've got like a lot of money on here right yeah i mean it's very presidential the way he weighs crack i mean if my dad dies like you get a good sum

It's like a succession thing. Yeah shows succession. Yeah, you watch it I I got into it and it was so intense. I stopped watching it I was absorbed into it and then it was like man. I can't do this every night. It's really good. It's so good It's really good. It's a really really good show and it ends amazing Bravo Bravo to the ending. I just want to say this is the best ending of any series i've ever watched this is the only and even the sopranos i get what they were doing but at the end i'm like really oh i didn't finish the sopranos either last episode of the sopranos was kind of like i get what he's doing i get it you can't fault him the fucking

show was just genius you can't have a bad word to say about one episode that I didn't enjoy. The show was amazing. They literally made a psychopath a hero. He was our guy. We wanted Tony Soprano was the fucking man. He had enough moral fiber that we accepted him. And it was attractive that he was that guy. He's just fat guys banging hot chicks Yeah, and coke and he's running the mob. Yeah, it's great. I mean the episodes I saw it's fucking great and the end they're all just sitting there and this guy seems to be paying attention to them. Oh Really yeah, and the idea is that the guy killed them no shit. Yeah, so we're all hanging out here And the idea is that the guy killed them. No shit.

Yeah. So they're all hanging out here. And that's the end. And the car parks. That's amazing. That's a cool ending. They're all eating onion rings. These people get out of the car and they start running.

Oh, that's the daughter. She comes and sits down. That's right. No spinoffs. That's it. Don't stop. Bam. Just stops. He's looking at somebody. That's so genius. That's so cool. Looking at somebody about to get riddled by bullets. Whoa, that's so cool. Man. Fuck. That's amazing. Imagine living that that life you're probably just waiting for the day with someone yeah you killed so many people yeah you've done so many horrible things yeah it's so fucked up man

just think about that think of like not to get back to the ukraine thing but think like being fucking putin how fucked up that feels, man, to like every day. What a rotten fucking day you're having. I mean, this is the thing, man. It's like with Biden, with Putin, all these people, they're too old. Give them a like they need to. It's like they're sucked into something they can't get out of. They all have their various maladies.

And somehow we're letting that happen. They're sucked into something they can't get out of. They all have their various maladies. And somehow we're letting that happen. Like globally, we're letting people who are clearly not OK up here, who are clearly like, man, like if you saw, imagine you walk into a 7-Eleven and you see some old dude talking like biden was talking to don lemon you if you didn't stop and say hey are you okay do you where are you what's going on with you you would be like an asshole like that that's someone you help yeah not someone you like put into a fucking job that melt people half your age down and like all the shit is that's people yeah where's the fucking compassion it's crazy this old man who needs to be like enjoying the last years he's this book i'm having this discussion while i'm wearing wolf i didn't realize that i am too but what what are their options that's the problem what are their options? That's the problem. What are their options? They have a vice president that seems like she's not the best at it.

And then who is on the horizon? Like who's going to take that spot? Who's going to take that leadership position? Who's there that makes sense? The option is just start telling the truth. Right, but that's not going to happen with them. So what they want to do is win win and they want to stay in power. And even they can even justify that by saying that we are going to do the overall good. We have like great ideas about social justice. We have great ideas about reshaping the economy and making things more fair. And and, you know, they've got some good points. There's it's not like the liberals don't have things that I agree with. I agree with most of what they say.

Sure. Most of the idea, like the civil ideas. Like what? Most of the things about equality. Most of the things about, like, the idea that there's, like, real income inequality in this country. It's real. And it's kind of creepy. Right. And there's a source source and the source is opportunity and if we don't create

opportunity for these people that live in these horrible places then we don't give a fuck about them and then if we wonder why there's so much crime we wonder why there's so much violence and then you have to wonder is there an industry that's based around making sure that people stay criminals? Well, there is. It's the prison industrial complex. It's a real thing. They need prisoners.

And then you find out that prison guards unions lobbied to keep marijuana illegal. You're like, what? Because they want more people in their prison. They want to lock people up so they can make money. It's crazy. Vampirism. So the liberals are right on a lot of these. I just think they're wrong in the approach.

I think the approach is not to just exonerate people and let people out of jail and let fucking chaos ensue and defund the police. I think the approach is to start dumping money into the cities. Start figuring out how to set up community centers. Start figuring out how to get people healthy food. Start figuring out how to set up community centers. Start figuring out how to get people healthy food. Start figuring out how to protect people from gang violence. In fact, maybe have more police so that the police can prevent people from getting shot and killed so they feel safe in their community. But you have to get better police. So you need more money for training, more money for funding, more money for salary.

And make them feel like a respected, appreciated part of the community. And then have oversight over them. Make sure that the people that have oversight over them are good people they're good people exist yeah they're out there we're mostly good human beings I think are mostly good fundamentally good fundamentally good but we get covered up by defense mechanisms that's the problem that fundamental goodness is covered up and warped by defense mechanisms and confused motivations I mean fuck that's the problem. That fundamental goodness is covered up in warped by defense mechanisms and confused motivations. I mean, fuck. That's the saddest part is it's like when you say they want to win.

Their idea of winning isn't even winning. It's just holding power. That's not winning. That's winning. They think it's winning. And that's what human beings do. We naturally play this game of winner and loser with almost everything. That's why neighborhoods like people try to to, that's the expression, keeping up with the Joneses.

You're trying to win. You're like, hey, Mike got a Corvette. Fuck him. Yeah. You know, I'm going to get a Ferrari. Yeah. Ooh, Mike, how do you like my Ferrari, you piece of shit? Right.

You know, it's like classic comedy sitcom tropes. Right. Yeah, that to me is like, you're right. I think you're right. People want to win, man. People want to win. That's why it's dangerous to have cops pull people over. You know, there's something about that, too.

Like, you definitely should pull people over because they're bad, but cops want to fucking, they want to write tickets. They want to catch people. They want to bust people. They're supposed to bust people. It's the profit motive is fucking everything up. But it's like also what is creating some of the coolest shit ever. Yes.

That's the problem. Like it's a double-edged sword. On one side, competition creates insane innovation based on market pressure. It's incredible. On the other side of it, you get people who shouldn't be millionaires. You get people who somehow have overcome their desire to have the next Ferrari and realize, oh, the better thing to do is help. Like, I just want to help. The idea was it's a public servant, not someone who's like manipulating the fucking stock market or selling their shit. That's the problem, man.

It's really insidious. selling their shit that's the problem man it's it's really insidious and it's like on one side it's like all right so if we regulate it well now you've got like the the hardcore socialism starts happening now you've got redistribution of wealth now you've got you're trying to like reset the game in the middle of the game and lots of people like no fuck that we're not resetting the game right but then on the other side if you don't do anything about it then the game like takes over everything it's like the government is now no longer a representative government at all at all at all it's just a weird bag of greedy miscreants who are all getting various checks from various sometimes competitive industries and making laws based on that and and

that's not a government that's i don't know what that is that's a casino or something that's just people who got to the high roller table and or no it's like people who are like i'm done gambling i'm going to control the fucking casino well that's what people are terrified about with generational wealth that's why people are terrified of very, very wealthy families that have transferred this money down to their children. And the children don't earn it. That's the king. That's Joffrey. Right.

Yeah. Everybody knows what that is. That's why Succession is such a good show because you can relate to it. Right. Yeah. What fucking bizarre reality do they exist in? Dude, I don't know but i wish i'd experienced it it looks fucking fun baby oh my god can you imagine bursting out of that womb

into some illuminati fucking delivery chamber blazing holy shit it's the best. Oh my God, what a life. Private jets from birth. Oh, fucking incredible. Access to the adrenochrome chambers. Adrenochrome, on the left. On the left. Just use your irises, they'll let you right in. Dude, I can't even, that is just so crazy to imagine what that's like. What is that like?

You never know. You never know what it's like to like worry about being able to like you know if you ever like gone out to eat with people and you have to run your credit card you know please god let it go through how overdrawn is it you know what i mean like those moments like i'm about to get humiliated in front of my friends you've never known that you've only known endless infinite opulence you're given you have your nannies have fucking nannies you've got like you're being educated by like some of the smartest people on the planet your diapers cost as much as like most people's like wardrobe for the year you know like the world for sure yeah that's a really cool incarnation man i

strange because it doesn't give you the adversity that you need as a young person it doesn't give you the challenges to overcome it doesn't give you the real possibility that you could be broke someday the real possibility that you might not have enough food I think there's a superpower in growing up poor. I really do. It never escaped me. Never. Growing up poor, when I was a young boy and we were drinking like powdered milk and living off welfare, food stamps. I remember that. I remember that clearly. I remember that clearly. I remember shame. Right. I remember all of it. Yeah. And so also I saw my parents build out of that and then move to a respectable middle class suburb so that we could go to a good high school. Right.

So I saw what hard work and all the thinking that was involved in planning this out properly led to get out of that. Yeah. But we were in San Francisco in the 1970s. And it was fucking weird. I felt very vulnerable already. But then on top of that, to be poor. And then on top of that, to be a latchkey kid. So I was just like out wandering.

I could just like leave and go anywhere right yeah man that formed you yeah that forms you and if you grow up on private jets and if you grow up always knowing that you're going to have money always knowing that you're going to be fine always knowing that you're going to be a part of an empire at one point that has wealth the likes of which no one will ever be able to explain where your children will be billionaires you can divide it evenly amongst their children they'll be billionaires as well it's nuts it's a different it's like a different universe but those kind of people that grow up in that environment will never think like you do. They won't.

They'll never think like I do. They won't. There's like extra gears that you have that you're born with when you live in poverty. I think that's what you look at all the great athletes, almost all of them, unless they grew up in households that were like very strong households where the father really encouraged athletics and was like really a great coach and the kid like grew up competing and really enjoyed it that's possible too but in fighting in particular boy it's a lot of people from fucking dire poverty it's a lot of people but don't you think it's possible as a parent because like i mean my kids aren't scraping by and i know your kids aren't isn't it possible as a parent. Because like, I mean, my kids aren't scraping by and I know your kids aren't.

Isn't it possible as a parent, if you're lucky enough to not have to worry about that shit our parents worried about. Yes. To still create a childhood and a life that isn't imbalanced and has within it the possibility for failure and having to like figure out how to do shit. Yes. Right. 100%. It's possible. It's just a different challenge. Right. Like in life presenting you with challenges that you could have never predicted you didn't ask for and they're right in front of you and you have to deal with them. People that go through that sort of a life, I think they have way more defenses up, way more awareness of deception,

way more awareness of people's ulterior motives and people who are creepy, people who aren't being genuine. And you and I have both encountered plenty of people like that. Yeah, sure. Where you'll pull me aside and go, hey, man, I don't think this guy's cool. Right. Like, there's something wrong with this guy.

Yes. Yeah. And, you know, I'm not going to get that necessarily from everybody. Some people are not going to see that. Right. They're not going to have been in dangerous situations where they had to, like, realize the consequences of not recognizing these kind of people early. Yeah, right.

Sure. Yeah. So you were, yeah, I mean, i mean this is the again it sucks because it's like yeah what what do you get you get an inflamed fucking amygdala is what you get you get like your your fucking brain just loves to spray out cortisol and so like that's what you get because you came up with that you watch your fucking parents freak the fuck out for your and potentially your entire childhood and and and so yeah you're freaked out you're you you're living in like a a weird battlefield that doesn't even exist anymore

that was your childhood whereas like uh yeah some people they don't they didn't have that so they they're you know they don't go they don't think about shit like that they don't think about like oh my god is this person is this person okay or oh my god they don't have that that we have i think it's dude honestly man i i don't i don't know i i do agree with you that adversity has has to be in a human life that if you remove adversity from a life you do an incredible disservice to that. The potential of that life. To the potential of that life.

Yeah. Because it's just physics. But it can be in anything. It could be in disciplines. It could be in games they play. It could be in sports. It can be in a lot of things. But they have to do things.

Like, you gotta do shit. You have to confront the learning curve. So you gotta learn how to get better at stuff. And then you gotta be excited about that feeling that you get when you get better at stuff yes that's giant that's a giant part dude that's it that's it and and you start connecting with that feeling as being actual success yeah that's actual success not like whatever else the world gives you is fantastic don't get me wrong right but if you never had that feeling in a lifetime and you were like sleeping on bags of fucking cash,

it wouldn't mean anything. It wouldn't mean anything. It's, but that's the weirdness of winning the lottery, right? That's the weirdness of all of a sudden becoming a part of this like hyper wealthy elite. And that's the weirdness of,

uh, anybody's life in North America. Like if you're in north america you first of all you hit the fucking lottery right if you're in the united states oh shit you don't even have to get vaccinated if you're in canada canada used to be an awesome spot to live until the lockdowns and was like, what is happening up there? Yeah, what is happening up there? What is going on? It's like of all the places you would expect to have some encroaching fascism happening. Never.

Never Canada. Never my list. It's very odd. They're doing it under the guise of social justice. And it's so creepy. But that is how you do it. If you want's so creepy. But that is how you do it. Like, if you want to do fascism, that's how you do it. Like, you don't do fascism by saying, like, hey, I'm going to control the shit out of you motherfuckers.

You do it by saying, hey, you better watch out because this thing is coming. And I'm the only one who can keep you from that thing coming. Fill in whatever that thing is. Bro, when they lock people out of their bank accounts for protesting, when they had the Freedom Convoy, they locked people out of their bank accounts. Dude. They locked people out of their bank accounts that donated. Not even that went there. That donated.

You can't agree with them. You can't agree with them. We're going to take your money. So spooky. That's crazy. So spooky. That's so scary because it sends ripples of fear through everybody. And it should.

It should. And it should it should just because you think you're doing it for the right reasons that is there's a reason Why we are so protective of the Bill of Rights We're so protective of the Constitution if you don't have something like that where it's written down They just keep pushing the rules. Yes, they keep changing They're making all these crazy new woke rules in Canada. And you can't say shit about it. There's censorship of everything on the internet that they don't like. They can pull things down. They can do all kinds of wild shit.

I don't know about the internet. What is it? I know it's about broadcasting. I know there's like, they've passed some new censorship legislation. I don't think it's the internet. I'm exaggerating. But what it is is spooky. Because that guy is not being honest about what he did during COVID.

He's saying they never forced anybody to get vaccinated. They fucking kind of did. You ruin their life if they didn't. Censorship bill. The bill makes changes to Canada's Broadcasting Act. The legislation requires streaming services such as Netflix and Spotify to support Canadian media content like music and TV shows. It also requires the platform promote Canadian content. Is that it?

It doesn't seem to help. It says regulate, though. Like, what else is in the regulate? That's the good positive spin on it. It's a nationalistic effort. They want to promote more Canadian content. Still weird. But I know they've

had that in the past. You know, they had that for like radio and for television. They had rules up there. I remember that because somebody I knew was a DJ up there. The bill makes changes to Canada's Broadcasting Act. Legislation requires streaming services such as Netflix and Spotify. It also requires platforms to promote Canadian content. Specifically, the bill says online undertakings shall clearly promote and recommend Canadian programming in both official languages as well as indigenous languages. The changes give the Canadian Radio, Television, and Telecommunications Commission,

Canada's broadcast regulator, broad powers over digital media companies, including the ability to impose financial penalties for violations of the act. The government says the legislation is necessary to impose the same regulations and requirements in place for traditional broadcasters on online media platforms. Right now, broadcasters are required to spend at least 30% of their revenue on supporting Canadian content. Jesus. Online streaming has changed how we create, discover, and consume our culture, and it's time we updated our system to reflect that, a government news release on the bill says.

That's not good. None of that is good. Because them saying, are we or are we not moving to a global entertainment world for the English language? Because it seems like it's kind of moving in that direction, right? I mean, some of the best podcasts in the world, like Trigonometry comes out of the UK. There's a lot of stuff out of America that's very popular over there. Yeah. Like, who gives a shit if it's Canadian or if it's American?

And you're gonna regulate well the Internet but to me that the real creepy thing is the state right is saying what Canadian culture is right like culture isn't it supposed to be something that kind of spontaneously emerges from groups of people but they're not exactly saying that they're saying you have to say that you could look at it in an altruistic way. You could say this is promoting Canadian content and it'll encourage more art to be created in Canada because there's more opportunities. That's fine. But you can't regulate that.

You can't legislate that because you can't give those fuckheads power over creativity. You just can't do it. You can't do it. Shouldn't. You'll ruin it all. You'll ruin the internet. You'll ruin it all. The bill's journey through Parliament has been difficult.

Rodriguez tabled the legislation in the House of Commons on February 2022. Nearly a year later, the Senate sent C-11 back to the House Commons with amendments. The House accepted most of the amendments but rejected others. So has it passed or not passed? One of the most contentious points of debate is whether C-11 would apply to user-generated content, such as podcasts and online videos.

The government has insisted that the legislation is not intended to regulate independent content creators. Not intended is not a good way. I don't like... It's not intended, but it could be used in that way. Right. They're just going to have more power to tell you what to do. And if you're a Canadian person who is broadcasting a podcast out of Vancouver and you have a narrative that doesn't fit with what Trudeau wants you to say, you could run into trouble.

You could run into trouble. You can't have them have any power over the internet. You've got to say no. But it seems like they passed it. Here's the thing. I don't know. If you subscribe to whatever the particular modality of your government is in regards to censorship controlling art controlling public dialogue, right? You think this is what you think you think well, they have to because I'm in danger of this or that whatever maybe that they're good

They're good. So Trudeau's online censorship law they'll see 11 passes Parliament But dude the problem is but dude the problem is the problem is fucking canada you you are thinking your government is going to stay controlled by the people whose more ethics you you believe in but you look historically at the world coups happen oh yeah secret coups happen and then all of a sudden all these rights you gave away yeah you've given them to people who you were fighting against bad guys dude that's the problem it doesn't governments don't last long enough to like let them have that much power a previous senate amendment to exempt

user-generated content from the bill was rejected by senators on wednesday evening god damn so that means user-generated content like podcasts yeah are now under the grip of the Canadian government. The state. They got you. Congratulations. That's so scary, man. It's so dumb because it's an incremental push. Jordan Peterson's talked about this.

This is how it works. They push you a little bit. You don't resist. They push you a little bit more. You don't resist. They push you a little bit more. You don't resist. And then you realize how far you've gone from the initial point and that's what's happening

and that's what just happened in canada yeah just a very slow trajectory towards state control it's the fucking internet you can't like say that someone has to have 30 canadian content on the internet that's bonkers 30 of netflix Do you know how goddamn insane that is? Do you know what they're requiring them to do? There's so much. Maybe they have to spend 30% of their budget to promote it in Canada.

Fuck out of here. Dude, it's awful. I can't believe it's happening. It's just so fucked up that people... We allow this shit to happen also why well like why would anybody even want that control why what's wrong with you well what's wrong with you that you want to control the the dispensing of information you're lying right like that's pretty much it if you're fucking lying, you need to control people's ability to challenge whatever lie you're telling.

And the more egregious the lie, theoretically, the more you have to, like, shut any kind of counter-argument down. My favorite conspiracy is that he's Castro's kid. He does look like him. He looks a lot like his dad, too, though. I don't think he's Castro's kid. Yeah. The problem is. He looks a lot like his dad, too, though. I don't think he's Castro's kid. Yeah. The problem is his dad looks like Castro. Dude, look.

He looks a lot like Castro, though. I mean, maybe that's just something that starts... What if that's what happens? Like, the more fascist you become, the more your face turns into... Elizabeth Warren did. It ruined her career. You should do it, too.

Take a DNA test, bro. I would... If I was Justin Trudeau, I would do that just to, like, shame all the people who said I was Castro. What if it turns out he's like 72% Cuban? You don't tell anybody. He's probably taking that test. He's probably taking that test and called his mom.

What the fuck? Mom, you know, son, it was a lonely weekend. Castro's a wonderful man. Kind of cooler, though like that like i like the fucking unless you're living under his grip dude of course but if you're gonna go fascist put on a costume right i don't like it you know what i mean i like castros like i'm wearing fucking camouflage you are not going to like mistake me for anything other than right an authoritarian leader like look i'm look at what, he dresses exactly the way they.

Dresses a military leader. Exactly. But to me, when fascism becomes insidious, when it learns to disguise itself as the opposite of what it is, oh, dude, that is so spooky. You know, that's where it gets really scary. They're, you know, wolf in sheep's clothing.

Did you ever see the video where they're asking Trudeau how his family is using recyclables and what are they doing to stop this? Did not see that. He's talking about his family drinking water. They've switched to bottles of water that are made out of paper. Those box bottles of water You gotta see this because this is this is the real person like forget all the speeches All right, get out. This is the real person that they've allowed to be in control of their liberty. All right, see if you find that He's having a conversation about box water being yeah, yeah

Put it put it back from the beginning. What is it? We have recently switched to drinking water bottles out of... Water out of... When we have water bottles out of plastic... Sorry. Away from plastic towards paper. It's hard to watch, but hard to look away.

The Prime Minister... What the fuck? Yeah, that's their look away. The prime minister. What the fuck? Yeah, that's their exceptional leader. I mean. That's when you catch him answering a question. Like drink box, water bottles sort of things. Yeah, drink box, water bottles.

Sort of things. Yeah, that's what he's done. That's the big contribution. I'm sure there's more, right? I'm sure he's done more. I'm sure he switched to solar. I'm sure he eats organic, whatever. But the point is, that's more right. I'm sure he's done more sure he switched to solar. I'm sure he eats organic whatever But the point is like that's the guy that's the guy that's telling you we have to be able to regulate podcasts Right, that's fun. Because if we regulate we don't regulate podcast someone could play this very clip like you and I are doing

from the great state of Texas Yeah, man, where a person could talk shit about Someone who should be talk shit about in that regard. If you want this to run in Canada, you're going to have to put a Canadian flag up or something. I don't think that's going to be the issue. I think it's going to be the issue of this 30% thing. What does that mean? Does it mean it's not broadcasting just in Canada?

30% Canadian guests. So we're talking about Spotify Canada only. That Spotify Canada only has to stuff itself with 30% Canadian guests. So we're talking about Spotify Canada only. That Spotify Canada only has to like stuff itself with 30% Canadian content. I mean, maybe they have enough Canadian content already. A lot of great stuff comes from Canada. I'm sure a lot of great podcasts come from Canada. Maybe they already have. Like what, I mean, what's the percentage of podcasts right now that come from Canada? See if we can find that just let's just go to spotify to say um google what percentage of podcasts come from canada on spotify i wonder if it applies to porn like porn sites will have to have 30 canadian porn fucking yeah they have to rules are rule bro

the government is going to force people to make make more Canadian porn That's the problem with shit like that Is it like it gets so absurd when you start when you start on? Repackaging it and realize like all the weird things that like in PS who determines what is Canadian content? Like let's say it was shot in the United States, but Harlan Williams is a star. Yeah, it's Canadian Yeah, and who is in control of saying this is Canadian content? This is not. What if Americans go to Canada, shoot something? Is that Canadian content?

How about they just do 30% of their programming is Tom Green? We're good. That would be incredible. There would be world peace. I can't seem to find that information. I don't know how I would even do it because I'm trying and it's not that way. What percentage of podcasts come from Canada? Just try that.

I don't know that anyone's even tracking that information. They might. No one cares where they come from. Let's see. Let's give it a go. Yeah, man. I just... It's so...

I know it's a weird Google, but I think... That is a weird Google. It's not going to get a response. Maybe I should call the CEO of Spotify live on the air. It's saying what percentage of Canadians listen to podcasts, which is not what I asked. Oh. That's what I typed in, but that's what Google thinks I'm looking for.

Because it's a weird question. How about what percentage of podcasts are created in Canada? Try that. Podcasts are created in Canada. Maybe created is not the right word. It's problem it's not it doesn't think I'm asking a million so maybe there's a chart out there of podcasts by

country so that's what I have but that list we're number one so it's just listing the most popular the most popular candidate podcast in canada sorry oh they're just coming from there and within oh i talked to someone in canada who's tracking all that information and everyone has to be honest about where they're uploading and you know fun first of all shout out to canada for making me number one that's cool yeah i was looking for a canadian named podcast but these all just seem like normal. Yeah, those are normal and Call Her Daddy, Huberman Lab, number three.

Jordan Peterson, number nine. Jordan Peterson. Yeah. Seems pretty similar to the American list. Damn. A lot of people have been on this one.

That's cool. That must feel good. It's fucking weird. I'll tell you that. But, you want some coffee? Yes. Here you go, bro.

Thank you, friend. Yeah, man. I don't know. I try not to. The other thing about it is the more you fixate on this. Cheers, sir. Cheers, my brother. Congratulations.

Thank you, sir. 2,000. 2,000 episodes. The more you fixate on the state, the state is an egregore. So the more people that fixate on the thing, the more powerful itgregore there's another it's a thing that so the more people that fixate on the thing the more powerful it grows that's the other thing the more it gets it likes you know like people when you realize they are enjoying negative attention yes that's the state it doesn't care what flavor the attention is it just wants attention yeah and the

more it gets the more powerful it gets the more people believe in it and that's all it if you believe it's going to hurt you or if you believe it's going to help you you're still supporting it you're still bringing it into increasing levels of power yeah so that's the other problem is like everyone gets all fixated on the government like that the news has many news stations have just turned into an endless conversation about the government. Endless conversation. Nothing about like human interaction at the basic neighborhood level. Just about like, I don't know how many people are running the show, but not that many. And it gives the impression that the state is God.

Even if it's reacting to it, like, we got to stop this. You're still worshiping it, but with fear instead of like praise. You're still making it something incredibly powerful, which I'm not saying it's not. But how much of that power is just coming from a general belief

in the egregore of whatever the fucking government is. Boy, I sure hope I'm using the word egregore right because I said it. No! Don't Google it! Get it right. Thank you, Jesus. You usually get it right.

But Terrence McKenna had a great quote about that. He said, we're doing the man's work for the man. That's it. That's a lot of it. Because they were like, how are you able to do these seminars where you're talking about things that are completely illegal? You're talking about these experiences with great detail. You're traveling all over the world.

And he said, first of all, I think to paraphrase him, one of the things was you have to keep it small. If you notice, he does these things. There's, you know, 100 people there, 200 people, 300 people. It's very small, like informal gatherings of people that are like- people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there, 200 people there Tim Leary. That's Tim Leary. And those guys, the Merry Pranksters, they were out of their fucking minds. Out of their minds. Out of their minds. And they were reformulating what society would be. And here's the thing. They're not wrong. They're not wrong.

They weren't wrong. They weren't wrong. Like, we want to think, like, oh, what they did was wrong. No, you live and you die. Okay? You live and you die. And along the way, you have experiences. And you are free to go the Merry Prankster route in my world.

Sure, absolutely. In my world, you can go ham. Just do no harm. Just do no harm. Don't fuck people over. You should all be like the same ethical and moral considerations should be applied to all civilizations. Yeah. But the idea that these people can't just like drop out and fucking sell grilled cheese sandwiches at a Grateful Dead concert.

Like says who? Says who? Says who? Fuck you. Totally fuck you. Yeah, they who? Says who? Says who? Fuck you. Like, fuck you. Yeah, they should be able to do whatever they want. And I think one of the things that I feel has come out of the internet is it's more of an understanding of the idea that it's not just one way to live your life.

There's not just one life. This idea of, like, everyone has to get up at the same time and drive to some place to sit in a room with a fucking computer in front of them entering information or dealing with whatever the fuck they're doing. And they're like, this is the only way to live. No, this is a life that we've somehow or another oddly structured. And you can participate in it if you like. But if you don't, there's other ways to live life and that's real and i'm not saying you should get in a fucking school bus and everybody does acid i am but if you want to i feel like you should be able to if you're informed if you really know what

you're getting into if you really understand it what we're scared of is young people getting sucked into cults because that's a great way to get control over people you you tell them all to come with you and you all do acid in the field and then you don't do acid and you tell these people that you're a god and you know you fucking freak them out and that's the fucking guy that owned the one world theater right that's what he was doing yeah but i don't think he was using acid he was using hypnosis and just right through there he could have but it was a lot of gullibility it was a lot of like really idealistic young people that just wanted to learn from a real guru we're scared of that because i think there's a natural part of

the human brain that was exposed during covid that also works to get people into cults that human beings like look towards a light to follow. We look towards a guiding light. We look towards a savior and we wanna be right. We wanna be correct. My savior's the real savior. My Buddha's the real Buddha. My God is the real God.

My Buddha is the real Buddha. I'm sure. I don't doubt your Buddha's the real Buddha. I'm joking, I'm not saying that for real. I know, I'm sorry. Sorry, I interrupted your rant with a shit joke. I'm sorry. It's a good joke.

But I think that it's really, really important that we understand that this structure, the way this is all set up, it's all set up by people that didn't have happy lives. They didn't enjoy it. These people that are telling you you have to do a certain thing and go in a certain way, like, look at them. They look like Lindsey Graham. Yeah. So many of them look so unhealthy and so sad and so just confused as to what this is all about. And very few of them have had psychedelic experiences. Very few.

Because if they did, they wouldn't be so sure. They wouldn't be able to just, like, keep saying the things the way they're saying them. They wouldn't be able to talk the way they're talking. would just be sickened by it all dude i don't know that i think that's a pretty big assumption i think that that assumption which we've all had who've benefited from psychedelics that you get fucking lindsey graham a nice whopping 500 microgram dose of lsd he's gonna come out the other side of that a new lindsey graham i don't know i don't know man i'm talking about a camp okay i'm talking about taking these motherfuckers to a camp in the jungle and dosing them up for like a year fascist rehabilitation fascist rehabilitation camp that's

what i'm talking about i'm not talking about like one okay hey man well i had one bad experience i'll tell you right i'm right back to the whiskey and I'm ready to kill Russians. I got you. That's the best money I ever spent. You can go right back to that. Remember that joke I used to say about DMT? It's like pressing control alt delete for your brain. When your brain reboots, your desktop is completely empty except for one folder.

And that folder is labeled my old bullshit. Oh, yeah. You can either decide to open up that folder and go into it and just fall back into your same patterns or you can go okay let's look at this thing for what it really is. Right.

Instead of being caught in these patterns of momentum. Yeah. Of the past and of bizarre group think. Proclivities. I'm just listening to this audio book i'm always trying to listen to like some audio book on spirituality it's pima children's book newest book about dying something like how we live is how we die it's very good book yes but in this book they're sort of talking about what happens when you die before your next life now obviously

you're gonna have to subscribe to the model of reincarnation for this but it's really interesting which is you're what you're talking about these proclivities or uh it's called samsara it's a loop these cycles the cycle of suffering the way that yeah you know those people are like why do i always this always happens to be in a relationship or the thing in your life that keeps repeating yeah this is happening because of your proclivities it's happening because of your attraction to this type of person or this type of situation this type of job and and if you look at proclivities they happen fast like in any given moment when you're making these decisions it's not like you're spending a lot of time generally thinking about them. It's just spontaneous.

Like the next word out of your mouth. You're not down there like, what do I say next? It's just coming. So these are your proclivities. And then when you die, those proclivities are what inform your next birth. So if you have not gotten past your spontaneous decisions that cause lack of harmony in your life, then that will be the momentum that carries you into your next birth. Which is why in Buddhism, you'll hear shit like meditation is preparing for death or practice of death.

It's like you're trying to make it so that when you die and if you die nothing happens and you're dead forever congratulations fuck yeah you're out you did it you're great but if you die and you keep going and and that model is correct then you don't want to be reactive in between lives because you will you will freak out number one that you're you're dead and you still have consciousness that's very disturbing for some people who thought that you die forever now you're like oh fuck i'm still here and then you don't like not having a body anymore you want to get back in a body in the same way so you fucking just you see you just dive into the next life as quick as you can instead of like having a little bit of like consideration in between you know and

not just that you're essentially your projections the proclivities they they become holograms basically so in that sense do you believe in old souls i i believe in momentum i believe that we have one right now where am i right now is I think that consciousness or awareness, awareness or what's called non-conditioned awareness before the overlay. I think we all share that consciousness and we're like little ripples in that consciousness. And that's our that's our karma ripples in this consciousness that we all share. Right. So I think every soul is, is out, it's transcends time.

Like it's all outside of time space. Right. But how, but I guess there could be the potential that certain people's like addiction to rippling that, to being within the emptiness and having a body and a self and an identity probably keeps them coming back here over and over and over again that's what i would say again this is a cause this is a cosmology that is unquantifiable and i don't think it matters necessarily if it's real

or not at least for me i use it as a tool to help give me the motivation to be less of an asshole. I mean, and also when you're dying and, you know, whatever the next life may be for you or nothing, who gives a fuck? It's like you reincarnate in a lifetime. Like you have many incarnations in any given human lifetime. You will go through so many different phases. And the more you gain control of your ability to not react the more you will inform what you're growing into the more it is a mindful or intentional personal evolution versus a kind of chaotic like mutation based on just you instantly doing everything your brain tells you to do exactly in the moment. Wow. You know?

I think that's very accurate. That very much resonates with me. Yeah. When you're saying that, I'm like, I see what you're saying. Because you kind of are like reincarnated as you develop and grow as a human being. Absolutely. And you have to be. Maybe that was like the analogy from the Bible.

Maybe that was what that was about the analogy from the bible maybe that was what that was about what like the reincarnation like who knows what the fuck they really meant when they wrote those things it's so hard to tell but i mean i think unless you could go back and read like have you ever read anything that's like translated like someone tweets something in russian like there's a lot of mma fighters They'll tweet something in Russian and I'll translate it. It's a little broken. Garbled. Yeah, it doesn't make total sense because the structure of the language is so different than ours.

That's the Bible, man. If you could translate, first of all, if you could go back to the oldest version they have, which I think the oldest version is the Dead Sea Scrolls. That's the oldest version of the dead sea scrolls that's the oldest version of the stories that wound up in the bible it's not necessarily the bible it's yeah some stuff in the dead sea scrolls didn't make the cut for the for the like it didn't get in there but a lot of the stories are kind of similar but there's a lot of wild shit in there oh my god a lot of wild shit in the dead sea scrolls i know i mean there's a lot of wild shit in there. Oh, my God. There's a lot of wild shit in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

I know. I mean, there's a lot of wild shit in the standard Bible they put in hotel room drawers. But just imagine that that's the origin, right? So that's these animal skins that they found in clay pots in Qumran. And they do DNA tests on the animal skins to make sure that they align the pieces because it's all fragmented and broken apart. I had no idea they did that. So they have to figure out how to do – yeah, you have to have the same animal. So it's like, okay, well, this is the same animal skin because we ran a DNA test on it.

And so then they get all the – it took forever. It took forever for them to do this. That's why that John Marco Allegro book is so fascinating. Oh, dude. The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross. Yes, I remember. That's why that book is fascinating. Because that guy studied the Dead Sea Scrolls for 14 years.

And he was an ordained minister who became agnostic when he started studying theology. He was like, hold on, let me reserve judgment. And he was a straight scholar. And it was his determination after all these years of studying the Dead Sea Scrolls, the entire Christian religion was a misunderstanding. That what we think of it as today, what it really was, was about the consumption of psychedelic mushrooms and fertility rituals. And that it was all baked into the stories. And that the stories, like even like the apple, like the forbidden apple.

I mean, they're talking about the aminated muscaria mushroom that looked like an apple. Yeah. Which is red. And apparently even the translation of it in some people translated it to red instead of like that apple. Right. The term that it actually means red that that's what they're trying to say they're not even trying to say apple yeah we've just converted it to an apple because that's the the best you know that story that the way the way that story comes together that you don't listen to god you eat the apple and then oh fuck now you ruined everything

yeah you know and that's kind of what he's saying about the whole idea of these psychedelic mushrooms, that they're hiding these things from their conquerors. They're hiding these things from the Romans. Right. So imagine if you had access to God and you had a marauding, intrusive army that's about to come into it, but you want to document all this stuff. You have to kind of car fucking documented in parables Yeah, hide it have to hide it in stories draw fish in that sand to let people know. Yeah, you're a Christian

It's so cool. The underground Christianity is so cool in the stories of the Christian Saints getting fucking butchered and and and and and and ignited and then like Crying not because they're being immolated but for the people emulating them. Oh getting fucking butchered and ignited and then like crying, not because they're being immolated, but for the people immolating them. Oh, shit. That is so hardcore, man. Hardcore. And dude, to get back to your other thing, you know,

about like that folder on the desktop. This is, if you want to understand, it always confused me, the whole born again thing. That's what they're talking about is like you have to you have to like fucking get rid of that folder yeah you gotta get rid of that and you and also what's cool about it is you can it's saying you can you don't have to like be that you don't have to like continue on this like dark shitty neurotic sad depressed selfish greedy angry shadowy life like in any second there is a way to enter the kingdom of heaven which is apparently here like stepping into another universe what the gnostics called gnosis to wake up to like real reality and not

the reality of the demiurge which is what i would say if you want to find like what the demiurge is it is the hypnotic zeitgeist that is being presented to us by hierarchical power structures that presents a universe of suffering and sorrow and hell danger with no solution ever offered no one is safe No one is safe and nothing can fix it. No one will fix this, some version of that. And what you do is you hypnotize people. And now they worship you because they're connecting to fear. And so this is like the story of like, you know, you embody that force.

Call it whatever you want. Satan. You embody that force. Hitler. Hitler embodied Satan. Yeah. Just follow me. Imagine.

Hitler, when he was, what's that famous speech that he gave? The one that's available, you could actually watch it on YouTube. I don't know. It was in front of this gigantic throng of people. You're talking about, yeah. I mean, he is the guy that's leading the Holocaust. He is the guy that's trying, and he's hopped up on meth. High as a kite.

High as a kite on meth. They're shooting testosterone into him. He's out of his's trying. And he's hopped up on meth. High as a kite. High as a kite on meth. They're shooting testosterone into him. He's out of his fucking mind. Blasted. They're giving him cocaine injections. Look how high he is. Can we hear some of this? Because it's.

Now, if you're a regular person and you see someone talking with this kind of power... Bro, you've seen him tweaking out at the Olympics? Oh, dude. That's my favorite Hitler. Incredible how high he is. Just hardcore tweaking. See if you can find that. Hitler tweaking see if you can find that Hitler tweaking But see that that speech is fascinating because you're seeing it from there

but there's some speeches where you see like the size of the crowd that he was Rallying for the area is tweaking not fun now if you wanted To bring Satan into the material world you would do it through a guy like Hitler That's essentially Satan in the material world. He essentially was Satan Essentially Satan he was like a pawn of Satan like if Satan is a real thing Well, what is he what is evil was all you're being silly something? But if it is evil it exists right evil the Holocaust was evil. What he did was evil. So How do you know that's not Satan? It's literally like satanic ideas embedded in a human being.

Yeah. That's real. That's a real thing. And you can call it evil. You can call it corrupted by money. You can call it corrupted by power. You can come up with a bunch of names for it. But it's just evil.

He's still moving really fast. I thought they sped it up because the other guy's moving really fast too. Well, I think cameras were kind of goofy back then, right? But he's just tweaking hard. No ifs, ands, or buts. He's tweaking hard. It looks like he's getting a rough back massage, but nobody's there. Looks like he's fucking.

Oh, dude, he's about to pass out. Bro, that guy looks terrible. And everybody's so scared of him. No one's like, dude, relax. Why are you fucking rocking like that? Like, take some CBD. Someone on a podcast had the story. It might have been Dan Carlin.

But there was a story about when Hitler, maybe it wasn't. I'm not sure. Hitler went to visit Mussolini. And apparently he had just got back from a campaign and he was exhausted. And so they shot him up with testosterone and they shot him up with cocaine. And Mussolini was going to try to get out of the war. And Hitler just fucking cornered Mussolini and just talked at him for like six hours. Mussolini was like, okay, okay, I guess we're in.

Fuck. Yeah. Dude, imagine getting cornered by Hitler when you're on cocaine. You're both on coke probably. I bet everybody was on coke back then dude do you know the story of and i'm sorry to feel good diet no that's a good story yeah you know the story of diogenes i don't know how to pronounce it there's a story this is some great philosopher and caesar hears about this great philosopher apparently he was an ascetic he He's living by like a river. He's eating out of like a dog bowl,

but he's revered as this brilliant, brilliant mind. And so Caesar goes to visit him with his like, you know, I don't know, chariot, you know, the imperial regalia because he wants to co-opt the philosopher. That's what the state wants to do, is to create a connection between the philosopher and the state. So he goes there, and he says to him,

you know, I'll give you anything you want. Just, what is it? And he goes, can you move a few steps to the right? You're blocking the sun. The ultimate takedown of that bullshit you're just a fucking person that's all you are whatever it is you've convinced other people

to think you are you're just like me there's really no difference and you just are doing everything you can to steal the limelight from nature from god from the light that's and it's it's so obvious there's nothing there it's smoke and mirrors wizard of oz it's when he comes out from behind the fucking curtain there's nothing there there's especially nothing compared to when you take the mushrooms that apparently inspire the Bible and you get the direct transmission.

And the direct transmission really doesn't give a shit about people like that. It's almost oblivious in a weird way. But here's the question. Do you think that in order for significant cultural change, sometimes people like that have to exist to elicit outrage? And that that's what wakes people up that's what leads people to understand that you just can't just let these feeble minds run civilization you just can't you can't and you got to get involved because if you don't get involved they stay in power right and the same fucking system corrupts your children their children

everyone's children in the future everyone's a prisoner of this fucking stupid thing that's it and it's not worth it it's not worth it even for the people that are perpetuating it because you're not going to live forever you're going to live and you're going to die and everybody's on the same fucking path we got to make it better for everybody and the only way to make it for better for everybody the only way to make it better for everybody is you got to remove money and influence from any of these decisions we've got you can't you can't let people make money because you've made decisions to kill folks you can't let people make money because you've made decisions to imprison people right you can't and yeah you can't reward it but you know i think there's a a precursor step. I mean, the first step is mushrooms.

Even before you take the mush, stop being an idolater. Like in the fucking Bible, I always was confused. Like what's this worshiping false idol shit? Because it just seemed odd. I was like, why the fuck does God give a shit about that? It created the universe. So what? They're like throwing flowers at a cow.

Who fucking cares? But now in my old age, I get it because it's not it's not it's obviously it's representing. Don't let anybody trick you into thinking that they're God. Don't let anybody trick you into thinking that they are some whatever the fuck it is. Don't let don't let a middleman tell you that he's got a direct line to the divine that you don't have. Because whatever that may be, whether it's literally God, whether it's some access to some world of scientific information that you're too dumb to understand, whatever it may be, don't fall prey. Don't succumb to that level of manipulation. And the best way to do that is to look for the truth. And for me, that's God. That's aligning with what I would think of as a transcendent, benevolent,

ever-expanding consciousness. And then this is where the mushrooms come in. And at that point, once you get a taste of that, then those tricks don't work anymore. They don't work as well. They could still work, but it doesn't work as well. It's like you're not going to – it's like if someone's giving you waku steak and then like – so they're like, hey, do you want to go eat delicious steak with me here or should we just go to Sizzler? What are you going to say? What are you going to say? And so that's the idea it's like those people

are sizzler it's not it doesn't you you you number one you don't care as much that you might die because you've connected with something that seems to transcend death and so then once you've done that what power do they fucking have now you're not afraid to die now they're burning you alive and you're praying for them while you die what wow what a mind fuck what a mind fuck watching someone you're emulating cry and pray for you because they they they they see how lost you are that person is not sleeping anymore like you're not sleeping after that you you's so powerful. But you got to anchor yourself in something other than the world or the world will drag your ass all over the place. Well, the world that we live in is the world of the animal. We are animals. And we're so connected to this biological existence that has fueled our evolution.

That's what we were a long time ago. And we still have that DNA, that DNA of the survival animal that is being Threatened that's encroached upon by it's just the competition of survival of the fittest amongst the breed I mean you can watch it and you watch in that chimp Empire show you watch the way chimpanzees do it Yeah, we're we're an accelerated version of it. That's it. That's just us. And there's got to be an understanding of that. If we're going to, we've got to understand that we're susceptible to like someone running things. We're susceptible to a leader. It's a natural built in. It's not like we see this person and like that person is so good at life. They should

probably run everything. Sure. It's not like that. It so good at life they should probably run everything sure it's not like that it's like we just need someone yeah like who's my are you my daddy you're not my daddy you're my daddy for four years but i'll tell you what we're gonna vote you out daddy get a new daddy we need the country needs a new daddy yeah you know right now we got a grampy we get grampy grampy's got problems and we try to ignore it you know we try to pretend it doesn't exist but you know everybody's like no and then every four years you get a new daddy and sometimes you hate daddy daddy sucks daddy's a racist it's like your mom doesn't want mexicans to get in here yeah man yeah right in the whole yes yeah and the whole fucking thing is so dumb so dumb because you

you're in what's really nuts is like you're spending at least i'm basing this on scanning twitter apparently all of your day angry at the government or angry at people who don't like the government and the whole time that that's happening your life is just rotting away rotting and melting away your chance to like be in the world and experience actual reality where the daddy is the seasons and the daddy is gravity and the daddy you space space you miss all of that and so you like instead of like connecting to sky mind as it's called sometimes you're connecting to like this one pixel in a in a in in a tiny little fragmentary part of

human history and and you are generating uh powerful emotions from the machinations of whoever this person may be it's very sad just because you're missing out on the bigger picture probably. Probably. Like it's a bigger thing out there. How exciting. Like even if you're the most profound atheist in the world, do the experiment.

Like do an experiment. Pray. Don't, like just, it doesn't matter how you pray. Pray like an asshole. Pray abusively towards God. Do any form of prayer at all. You just have to be open-minded about what happens over the next few days. Just be open-minded.

Throw in the mushrooms. See what happens. Because even if it's all bullshit and there's just something built into the DNA of humanity that when we invoke a deity it makes our lives better your life is better yeah even if it's some materialist explanation behind why the majority of people on the planet believe in prayer and will claim that has made their life better great you've figured out some like hack for your biology you know but what if it's real? But what if it's real? Shit. Well, what if it's real because of the hack? Right.

What if that's what it is? It's like you just have to get your mind to a state where heaven is real. You get your mind to a state where there is a God. Yeah. Yeah. You don't, you just, and it's not like you have to believe it forever either.

But also, if it's a God beyond your comprehension, beyond the comprehension of the mere mortal brain to just even envision what that means wouldn't it mean something that created the universe sure okay well something definitely created the universe so if there is a god it's left a giant fucking footprint right it's it's letting you know it's done this. A universe-sized footprint. And you might say, well, it doesn't exist because there's not really a man in the clouds and there's not a guy with a beard, some patriarchal asshole who runs the world

and doesn't like gays. That's not what we're talking about. That's the God of man. But whatever it is made the universe is a thing. What is that thing? Is it just chance? Is it just chance? Is it just atoms colliding is

it just a bunch of chaos going on in in a fucking hyperspace form is that what it is okay maybe that's god maybe that thing is god yeah because it literally creates everything so whatever that is at one level it is that at another level it's a unified, harmonious event. Now, because this is, the idea is there's a distinction. Absolute reality, this is the sum total of all things. This is when you know you've taken the right dose of mushrooms where you are gone. Yeah. consciousness you are now part of the whole that's absolute reality relative reality is the chaos that one does not negate the other the two are working together in this beautiful dance that they do with each other and so so if you get lost in one or the other you're going to embarrass yourself like this is the thing it's like if you get too caught up in absolute reality then you're gonna embarrass yourself like this is the thing it's like if you get too caught up in absolute reality then you're not paying your credit card bills this is when Jesus said offer unto Caesar what is Caesars it's like you

must acknowledge the material world because you're fucking in it and you got to pay bills right doesn't it also mirror the free will argument the free will versus determinism like determinism states that you have no free will right but clearly you do yeah you know you make choices absolutely we all make choices the idea that these choices are only made because of the contents of your existence kind of true but also you can you can learn and make better choices next time like there's something going on so both things i think are going on simultaneously but people want to be very dogmatic about it They will argue to the death that it's only

Determinism and people will argue with the death to the death that free will is what really shapes the world Yeah, terminism is nonsense. And there's been plenty of examples of people that came from horrific backgrounds grew to become exemplary people. Yeah, the continuum runs from this kind of like, I don't know, eternalism and nihilism. That's the continuum. So, you know, when you get imbalanced in one or the other, there's like, it has a real effect on your life. But the idea is, you know, for example, like, does God change?

Maybe the personality of God changes. Maybe the idea that we aren't part of God, that if God is the totality of all things and the sum total of all lives that have ever lived outside and inside of time, you're part of God. You're part of the evolution of God. You're part of the outgrowth or outflow of the divine consciousness. Like that is who and what you are. And so you change. So God changes. In fact, it appears that God loves change because things are constantly changing within

that creation. If you want to use that model. Yeah. Nothing is in a static state. Right. Yeah. Which is why it drives me crazy when people talk about controlling the climate. And I'm like, listen, we should definitely stop polluting.

We should definitely stop releasing CO2 from emissions if we can do that. We should definitely stop doing all those things. We should definitely figure out a way to fuck, do something to stop the harm that industrial agriculture is doing to the earth. Absolutely. We definitely should figure that out. Also, this shit that's going to happen, you've got no say in. Ice ages, super volcanoes, asteroid impacts. Nuclear war.

Earthquakes. Yeah. There's some shit that goes down and has gone down, and that's what shaped the very mountains you're vacationing in, stupid. Like, that's literally the earth being upheaved through the bottom by molten lava. Right. The rise of the crust that creates these majestic peaks

that you like to ski down, you fucking ape. Yeah. We have to protect nature. Like, nature's not going to protect you. I'll tell you that. It'll shake everything off and start again every fucking billion years if it wants to it's i think it's very scary at first if you really acknowledge the reality of how finite you are and how the planet that you're on

is uncontrollable. And maybe we can make some shifts. I'm not, obviously, clearly carbonation, everything you said, obviously. First of all, obviously. Yeah, obviously. Everyone wants clean water. Everyone wants clean air.

We all want that. Stop pretending some part of your species is like, somebody dump some oil in that fucking ocean out there i want some it's it's it's it's very condescending and i think it's like non-productive if your goal is to get everyone on board telling half of the people or whoever that they're fucking idiots is not going to get them to your rallies like there needs to be a little more compassion towards towards those people but yeah man to deal with the the real truth which is like no one's gonna remember you in about

200 years yeah no one will think about you no one's gonna remember you no one's gonna care about you no one will visit your grave there will be no one dreaming of you because they're gonna be dead and they're you're gone and it doesn't matter even if they one dreaming of you because they're going to be dead and you're gone. And it doesn't matter even if they do care about you. Because you're gone. You're gone. You're out. You're gone.

You're out. I hope you did a good job of informing the people of everything you learned around you. And hug as many people so they miss you. But that's about it, buddy. We're all on some weird infinite journey. And I think some people have gotten a little confused into thinking that what they don't understand that their attempt to like, quote, save the planet, which again, please do, is actually an attempt to keep themselves from dying. Yeah, that's 100%. Right, that's what it is. It's also a righteous ideology to attach yourself to that elevates your social standing.

That's a problem with all environmental movements. There's a lot of people that run them that are douchebags. And there's a lot of people that run them that are beautiful, amazing people that really do just want to change the world. And then there's people that attach themselves to movements. Because if you attach yourself to a righteous movement, you must be a righteous person. And so it exonerates them of all their shitty personality traits because they can say, Hey, man, I'm fucking doing this for the earth you know and they have all this shitty fucking energy that's attached to a cause that you probably support yeah you're like hey man how about fuck

you and then you don't even like the environment anymore now you want to use plastic straws fuck the turtles yeah man i just don't see how a strategy that has built into it condescending aggression is going to create the massive changes that you are prescribing. Yes. How the fuck is it even going to work? How is it possible? You are ignoring the entire human biome and the psychology of that biome and thinking, what are you going to do?

Shame people into not using plastic? Are you going to humiliate people? What are you going to do? Yeah, what are you going to do? How into like into not using plastic are you going to humiliate people what are you going to do yeah what are you going to do how does that work it doesn't work it's never going to work yeah it doesn't i saw a fucking a meme online that was amazing it was a paper straw in a plastic package it's amazing looking at that like how ridiculous that is exactly how is that not in the Babylon Bee or something? Is this real? They really have a paper straw that's wrapped in a plastic package? Fucking crazy.

That's so nuts. Did it really all come out of that one sea turtle that got a straw up his nose? That horrible video that we all watched? That was the worst. That was horrible. Yeah, it came because of that sea turtle. I bet there was coke in that straw. Some kind of like atlantean coke i think joey diaz actually said that that's funny a paper straw and

plastic wrapper the green movement in a single picture i think i might have stolen that from joey joey sorry that's still a very funny joke yeah i'm just trying to figure out where i heard that i think it's joey the it's like, let's think about the language of it, right? Okay, things are getting hot. We got to cool them down. Yes. Cool yourself down first, because the idea is you are part of the planet. Yes. And the energy that you are invoking every day is hot, angry, fiery energy.

It affects everyone around you, and then it affects them as they affect other people. So since you're part of the planet, aside from doing all the things that make sense regarding carbon emissions or whatever it is that you think is going to fix things, you have to do something a lot harder than recycling.

Yeah. You have to calm down and get real peaceful because I think that's what you want in the world that's what everybody wants in the world but it's just hard when you don't have it in yourself so if you don't have it in yourself you have to take control of your own biology and your own mind and help yourself first once you help yourself and you put that energy out there you could affect the people around you they can affect the people around them that's why some neighborhoods are better than you know not just because of economics but also because some

neighborhoods are like filled with nicer people yeah you know it's like you get a good neighborhood you got a good neighborhood that's beautiful you got a great neighbor like hey buddy what's up yeah like you're cool with them it's the best it's nice it's it's actually fun it's wonderful you know i had the best fucking neighbor in california he's the nicest guy and uh his fucking house caught on fire and my friend bud actually had his house fire put out because he was friends with the fireman and he stayed in while they evacuated i'm so happy that they saved this guy's house that's so cool such a good dude so just it's so nice when you do like like people and you see him like there's a guy in my neighborhood and every time I drive by he waves

At me yeah, he's his old fella, and he's always like tending to his garden He's out there in the front and every time anybody drives by this guy waves And I wave to him and I look forward to it And I drive that way during the day cuz I know that he's gonna be out there cuz I'm gonna I want to say hi Yeah, see that's It's so simple. It's like it's such a little love thing. We're just exchanging love don't put your fucking condescending political sign in your yard You know what I mean like and it's like

Intentionally cutting you off from your fucking neighbors Presupposing that whatever their particular political ideologies are they're brutes compared to you right stop doing that you are creating the problem you're trying to fix yeah just via the the mechanism you're using to fix the world is condescending fucking patronizing signs designed to infuriate your fucking neighbors that is a weird one when you see those signs on people's lawns. It's like, what are you doing? Yeah. How about you put, I love you in your fucking yard?

How about you do that? Or like, come over if you're hungry. Do that. That's badass. Anything. I saw a dude in front of his house. He had a painted, gigantic painted sign. There's a honk if you love Trump.

That is really. He wanted everybody to honk in front of his house just all day fucking fuck fuck torturing he's in there wearing that like that dude is not experiencing any peace no peace no peace no real peace because real peace also fuck yous a lot of fuck yous i'm sure people probably roll peace... Also, fuck yous. A lot of fuck yous, I'm sure. People probably roll the window down and yell, fuck you. Fuck you! You worship the golden calf! I worship the silver calf! It's a war of idolaters! You worship the monkey of light!

You dummy. You fell for it. You fell for it. You sucker. Yeah, it's the sparrow wisdom. You gotta take it in by the trump cult. Yeah, exactly, man. That MAGA cult. you sucker yeah it's the sparrows wisdom yeah exactly man that maga cult yeah the whole time

the real like reality is we're sharing a planet and we're all basically the same and that's the truth that's the truth that's the truth it's in some people are like confused and some people aren't and every the best thing to do is to like help yeah regard like how just help like your friend who put out the fucking fire yeah he wasn't like what wait who did you vote for again right well i guarantee you that guy voted democrat my friend is not it's like altruism is is is non-political what should it used to be it used to be. It used to be okay. It used to be okay to have differing political views. Yes.

People used to have friends that were Republicans and friends that were Democrats, and everybody was okay together. Now everybody's, like, isolated in a tribe after Trump. Trump, because he's so bombastic and he's got so much ego and it's so crazy, like, I think even if he's good to get us away from the swamp, he's bad for the way people interact with each other because they hated him so much. There's never been a guy that people openly hated like that, that was running for president. Name one that was president that people openly hated. Because even W, after 9-11, people were on his side. After 9-11, I remember he made that speech. We'll get all those people that did

that or smoke them out of their holes like we were like fuck yeah yeah everybody was like fuck yeah the whole country had fucking american flags in their cars people that are young that don't remember those days maybe too young for it it was a fundamental shift in the way everybody thought about everybody people were letting people in. They were letting people change lanes. People were waving to people. It was weird. It was weird.

Everybody had decided to chill the fuck out. Yeah, man. And join together. We realized we're all in this together. We're all Americans. Yeah, you can do it. You can do that without war. You can do that without war, and you can do that the way you do, as above, so below.

If we, regardless of whatever the fucking news is telling us, why we should hate this person and why we should like that person, if we ignore all that shit and we all just start finding ways to connect with each other, at the very least just stop judging people as harshly as you are. I think the government will follow. I think, like, we'll wag the dog, so to speak. That the government is, like, a reflection of us. And that the more we, like, just delete that folder, abandon the fucking programming, abandon the way they've been separating us

into so many ridiculous factions that are supposed to hate each other the the more we could expect the government to shift and maybe that's naive it might not be naive it might be the only way and also the people that get into the government people that grow up with this message instead of being indoctrinated into that system they come in there with like an eye for change like a mind for change and it is possible change is always possible yes we are the living embodiment of the fact that change is possible right we're the biggest experiment in self-government the world has ever known and right now there's there's factions of our world that are working to try to undermine the whole self-government aspect of it well yeah it's because the federal fucking government doesn't need to be that big i mean like we have this like gargantuan fucking massive

federal government that could that needs to get pared down and and but and it wants to keep power and it wants there's a lot of people in. There's a lot of people in there. There's a lot of people in there that need to be paid. There's a lot of money flowing. We're supposed to be on the same team. Yes. We're all supposed to be Americans. And that brings me back to the aliens.

Yes. Because if there is anything that's going to wake people the fuck up to how weird this whole thing is yeah is if all these people that are coming forward all these people that are talking about us having retrieved alien crafts the Varginha incident in Brazil yeah that they documented in that film a moment of a moment of contact which is amazing James Fox movie I don't know if you've seen it it's fucking incredible they it seems like there was a crashed UFO it seems like there was a crashed UFO. It seems like there was a crashed UFO

in Virginia, Brazil in 1996. And it's like, they have, and you go into the town, they have a replica of it that's at the beginning of the town. Yeah. It's like as you're entering into the town,

they have a fucking UFO. Everyone who was alive back then has a story of seeing these things flying through the air. Yeah. The people that made contact with these creatures, one of them died of a horrible bacterial infection. There's record of them transporting it to three different hospitals. Whoa.

Yeah. Wild shit, man. Wild shit. They did an autopsy on it, supposedly. The Air Force supposedly flew into Virginia, Brazil and came back with the wreckage. Wow. Yeah. Why did Brazil give, like, oh, you mean the Brazilian Air Force? No, the United States Air Force.

Why did they give away their UFO? Because they probably had to. There's probably, look, governments give countries aid. They do this. They do that. We work this. We'll protect you from that. We'll do this to help you from that.

There's a lot of weird shit going on and if if there's one country that really does have both possession of crashed ufos and has a whole division a secret division where they find crashed ufos and retrieve them and this is what this guy david grush is saying yeah he's saying they do have that and they are in possession of that and then they're lying to congress they're not showing congress this and they're not showing the american people this but if they did if we knew how much of i mean this is the ronald reagan speech to the united nations did you ever hear that speech yeah sure it's an amazing speech yeah yeah because it made all the people, the UFO dorks go, yes! Right. It's real! But there was nothing forever.

Nothing. To be a UFO fanatic from like 1980 to like 2017, you had to be a moron. Come on! You had to be. I was a moron. Look, I was one of those guys. But you had to, there was not much. You weren't getting much you

occasionally get a book i remember um i mean roswell you had roswell you did have roswell but you also had some weird stuff and one of the weird things we had was the um the abduction phenomenon that was very weird well and that the the guy from harvard john mack who did those all those hypnotic regression sessions with people that claimed to have been abducted and they were eerily similar yeah eerily similar but apparently people have like questioned his methodology and people have questioned like the leading nature of whether or not he led people into these thoughts you know like by questioning and asking them okay what have you experienced have you been experienced have you been encountering

ufos as an alien i don't know what he what he asked you know what it's called swamp gassing that you know what that term swamp gassing no what's that oh you yeah yeah you attribute yeah you you you so people are having legitimate experiences all around the fucking planet and then people are like they're they're all crazy Right or they were all tricked into saying something. What are the criticisms of John see if you can find Google criticisms of John Mack Abduction hypnotherapy man. I gotta use it a piss right? This is the problem with these things like we have a zipper on the back Yeah these things like we have a zipper on the back oh no yeah i gotta like unzip you here before you i was wondering how should we end this we're at like four hours four hours yeah it's been four

hours dude we can't end it on the middle of a ufo thing we got to finish out the i will hold okay i will piss in my fucking furry outfit well we don't have to we could just end no let's fit no i mean i like to that's something i got it i don't want that's something meow meow does what do you got the john mack thing i remember talking about john mack thing yeah that's right i can't how are you doing you all right over there with your peepee it's hard right it's hard to concentrate meow meow likes to pee on himself no meow meow don't do it in my studio ari already done that Ari's pissed in here half a dozen times In the old one he used to like pissing kombucha bottles Yeah, so he interviewed all those children in Zimbabwe that had a mass sighting and that one that one's great very compelling very very very compelling

Because all these kids have the same story and he talks to them independently and they all have the same story look look man if these fucking whistleblowers are telling the truth we have been visited yeah and these kids are telling the truth which makes way more sense than they're all just lying and they all have the same story yeah it doesn't make sense it's gonna be so fun to go back through every single like one of these events that we have like rolled our eyes at from the perspective that we have UFOs he play some of this Jamie's when I remember reading about this though that I would just want to add this and I read that this is be antithetical to what he's saying or what we're hearing right now he spoke to all these kids in like a big room there's like 60 kids and he

talked them all at once. And asked and sort of was like leading them on questions. Did you see this? Did you see that? And a couple of them did. And then when they're in this environment where he's talking to them one-on-one, they're kind of all remembering what they talked about in that room. Oh, interesting. I don't know if that's exactly what happened, but that's what I read.

But let's hear the kids talk. Where was the pointy part? Was the pointy part in here or was the pointy part up there? And what was the feeling? Back it up, Jamie, so I can hear what he's talking about here. Like the pointy part up there. Did you see the eyes? Yeah, here it is. What did they look like?

They were angry like that. Where was the pointy part? Was the pointy part in here or was the pointy part up there? And what was the feeling when you looked at the eyes? It was scary. And what, scary why? What made it scary? The eyes looked evil.

Evil. And what was evil about them them say what you mean by evil it looked evil because i was just staring at me with what staring at you as if what? As if to do what? As if it wanted to come and take us. As if it wanted to come and take you. That was the feeling you got? That it wanted you to go with it? Did you feel like you wanted to go with it? No. Did you feel... What was the effect on you when you felt it wanted to have you go with it? What happened?

I just moved and I started crying. They came running up here in such a panic. And I mean, even if we had staged it, they could not have run all together like that. Even if we practiced it, I don't know how many times. They came up here like a living snake. And they just came, we were in a staff meeting and we just heard them screaming, screaming, ahhh, and they were like, yeah, you know, and a child can't make that up. Wow.

I was very skeptical in the beginning as well. I believed that they'd seen something, but I wasn't prepared to accept that it was anything supernatural, anything like that. So if we know now that they actually do visit. Yeah. And that there actually has been some sort of contact. And when that guy was describing, you have physical bodies, he's saying if you have a crashed vehicle,

sometimes you have a dead pilot. That was his way of describing it. I'm like, holy shit, man. Yeah. That means they come and there's an actual alien. Yeah. So imagine you're in Zimbabwe and you're a kid just hanging out at school

and a fucking actual UFO lands and aliens get out and you think they're thinking about taking you. Yeah. And that was kind of planted in her head by him, I felt like. Right. I felt like that was kind of leading. Like he led her to say that.

I feel like there's a way that you could have talked to her. First of all, you'd have to calm her down first. My strategy would be to get her very relaxed talking first i don't know if they did that but ask her a bunch of questions what do you like to do what's your favorite part of school what's your favorite subject you play any sports do you have any games you like just talk about kids love to talk about things they like to talk about right and then go i'm really sorry this happened to you but um can you tell me what happened and then just let them talk let him talk and do you don't say did you feel like it was trying to take you all right like don't

you don't don't plan I think you yeah I think with a little kid you have to say so why was it evil could you could was it evil because you couldn't see their eyeball because their eyes were different right you know like what what felt evil because like if you look into a fucking eagle's eyes they look evil sure eagles look evil their eyes looking at you like this they're glaring if an eagle was as big as you it would be fucking terrifying dude that would be the worst but you could saddle them but do you know they used to have a bird like that it was called a terror bird it was like an enormous bird that lived in North America that was like, I think it was way bigger than like a human being. They were fucking huge.

Huge predatory birds that didn't fly. You ever heard of these things? Terror birds? Terror birds. Yeah. Google terror birds. There was these ancient birds that lived. Oh, fuck.

I don't know how long ago, man. But they were fucking enormous. Look, there's some images of what one looked like next. Yeah, up top where it looked like. No, no, no. Up top. Up top. That's how big they were.

So you could have ridden one of these. Oh, yeah, fucking for sure. If it didn't eat your dick immediately. It would. It would swallow you whole. You ever see like a fucking pelican swallow a seagull whole? Dude, it's... That would be what it would be doing to a human.

It would just gulp you down. That was a real animal, dude. That is how I would dress if I rode one. Imagine if you could fucking get one of those things to follow your lead. Look, he's got a bite, a thing in its mouth, a bridle. But the reality was, I think they were way before people. Like, when did these things exist? Terrorbird.

What does it exist here? Size of these motherfuckers. Terrorbird. What an awesome name for a bird, too. Fucking cool. They range from three meters to ten feet. What does it say? You can cut it out there. 66 million years. It says they range from one to three meters. So meters to 10 feet. What does it say? You can cut it out there.

66 million years. It says they range from 1 to 3 meters, so 3 to 10 feet. So a big one was 10 feet tall. So 53 to, wow, 100,000 years ago. So they lived alongside human beings. Oh, my God. Fuck that. Oh, my God.

No wonder why they're dead. We probably fucking slayed those cunts. We got rid of them there's even a slightly smaller version that dating to 18,000 and 96,000 years ago oh my god sir dude imagine what those talons could do to you click on that one the relatively small one how big is that relatively look at that dagger beak what does it say two two point six feet eight twenty pounds you've seen that shoe bill right you've seen that fucking creepy thing that lives in the congo no man i come here for all my biology because like you show me dude shoe bills oh yeah i've seen that those they're huge too shoe bills are like four feet tall. This giant-ass bird.

And they clack their teeth together. They clack their bills together. They're like... You never heard it? No. Get a... Fuck that. Get out of my yard.

That's how they let you know they're coming. Look at those eyes. If you're a little kid and you see that eye get out of a spaceship, you'd be like, what the fuck, man? Look at that thing. Look at that thing. Look at that motherfucker. And they fuck fish up.

They fuck fish up. There's a crazy video of a shoebill. There it is. It's eating a snakehead fish. So those snakehead fishes, those fish get out of the water, and they walk on land to try to find more water. So you have this fucking dinosaur fish getting eaten by this dinosaur bird. You finally make it out of your lake, and that fucking thing eats?

Yeah, and that thing. Dude, we're so lucky we got born as humans. And you're walking like this. Like, Jesus Christ get me to the water get me to the fucking water nope the clamps of death look at those things look you've showed up

you've been promoting these birds that's so meta 2000 episodes 2000 episodes my brother and you've been there from the very beginning so we've had some of the my very favorite fun podcasts

and I think this is my favorite of all of them I love you to death brother likewise I love you too Joe you're the best thank you so much thanks for doing this show thanks for letting me be on it

please and thank you for Duncan Trussell Family Hour that's my favorite podcast oh my brother thank you I listen to your podcast all the time

no you don't don't tell me that I'll get nervous you have the best ads of all you don't. Don't tell me that. I get nervous. You have the best ads of all time. Thanks, man. You really do. And when I need something

fun, interesting, I go to your podcast all the time. It's amazing. Man. All the different episodes that we've done and all the different outfits.

I think my favorite was when we were dressed up like clowns and they quoted us on Fox News. One of the greatest moments of my life. Well, they'll probably

do that with this one with furries. Joe, can I plug one show? Yeah, please do. Coming up, Dania Beach Improv. You can find the ticket links at dunkertrustle.com. You, dude, you're the fucking man. I love you to death. Hare Krishna. I'm so glad you're out here, too.

Oh, thanks for luring us all out here, man. We love Austin. Thank you. I love Austin. I'm happy, too. There it is. Dania Beach, Florida. Oh, shit's, we love Austin. Thank you. I love Austin. I'm happy, too. There it is. Dania Beach, Florida. That was, oh, shit. Oh, my God. Oh, that's so weird, dude.

Oh, my God. That's nuts. That's nuts. How is that possible? I don't know, man, because I generated that with an AI. Wow, that's weird. And on that note, goodbye. Goodbye.

Bye. Bye. Bye. Wow, that's weird. And on that note, goodbye. Goodbye!