The Joe Rogan Experience - #2031 - Luis J. Gomez

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

Luis J. Gomez is a stand-up comic, writer, and producer. He's a host of multiple podcasts, including "Legion of Skanks" with Big Jay Oakerson and Dave Smith, and "Real Ass Podcast" with Zac Amico. Watch his new stand-up special September 5 on YouTube. www.luisofskanks.com

the Joe Rogan experience are we on which song are we on yeah I don't know if we were talking on the podcast just being dudes that's the beautiful thing about podcast it really really is, yeah. It's kind of just hanging. Yeah. But yeah, I smoked weed since I was like 17, and it was illegal. And you just, all these like formative years spending my life being afraid that a cop was going to come and arrest me. And I've been arrested for smoking weed like 10 times in New York City. Wow. Because I'm an idiot, and I just, you know.

Right. And it's just a game of numbers. I would just, we would roll a blunt in the park, you smoke it, and every time for some reason, the cop would always take me. All my friends, they'd be like, you know what, you gotta take one of you. And I'm the only brown kid in the group, so every single time, they were like, we're gonna take you. And then they'd take you to Central Bookings for a day.

They would literally say I have to take one of you? Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. And none of your friends? Hey, you got Louis the last three times. Not once. Dave Smith,

I've been arrested, I was arrested three separate times and Dave Smith watched me get put into the back of a car and he was like, bye. Oh God. Yeah, yeah. But yeah,

and then I remember I went to Amsterdam when I was 22 and it was the first time I ever smoked legal weed and I just, I was like, this is great,

this is the way it should be. It was nuts. I was just like smoking in the street, I was talking legal weed. And I just, I was like, this is, this is great. This is the way it should be. It was nuts. I was just like smoking in the street. I was talking to a cop. I was on mushrooms. I was like, this is so peaceful and nice. And then I came back and I remember I was in a stairwell smoking a blunt like the day I got back and I was like, this is fucking a wild thing.

And then here we are years later in New York City. It's legal. There's literally, uh, you could buy weed and just delis on every corner in New York City now it's crazy yeah I remember the switch in California because for a while I was medical so I used to have to go to a doctor and the doctor would go oh you need weed and then he writes some shit down on a piece of paper then you could buy weed yeah and I used to go to this place called the Englewood Wellness Center, which was in Englewood and it's, you know, shady area. And back then, I don't know if it was credit cards yet. I don't, I think they might've been able to use credit cards, but I know they also had a lot of cash on them and they got robbed. And the guy that I used to buy weed from got shot. Oh shit. And I was like, all right,

done with that spot. I'm going to have to find a new spot. But there wasn't that many spots. You would have to like like, find these places. And they looked like shut down stores. Like, most of the places that were dispensaries, they were, like, super low key. Like, you had to know people. And you would go in there and, you know, there'd be some fucking doctor. Like, one time we went to this doctor and he had dreadlocks. And these dudes had, like, long dreads.

And he had a volcano bag, you know, in the volcano vaporizer bags. But it was like an extra long bag. And we walk into the dispensary and he's like, man, you need medicine. They just immediately, he goes, you need some medicine. I go, yes, sir, I do. Thank you. I'm very sick. I'm very sick.

And he took us to the grow room. I don't know if you've ever been in a grow room when you're high. No. But they seem to be intelligent. There's an odd feeling that you get when you're high on marijuana and you walk into a grow room filled with, like, hundreds of plants. It was a big-ass room with lights, you know, hydroponic lights or whatever hanging from the sky. And it just has a weird feel to it. Yeah.

It has a weird feel, like not a regular room. It doesn't feel like you're walking into a room. It feels like you're walking into a room with beings. Oh, really? Yeah, like they feel alive in a weird way. Yeah. And I know it was super high. That's good weed that you have.

Vaporized powder. But it felt real. Because it didn't feel like that when I was in the super high. That's good weed that you have. Vaporized pack. But it felt real. Because it didn't feel like that when I was in the other room. When I was in the other room where they had just like couches and shit, you know, seemed normal. And then he takes us back and we go into this back room and I'm like, whoa. Like these things are conscious. Well, they say that. Don't they say plants are conscious to a certain degree?

If you like sing to them and talk to them or if you yell at them. They don't grow or yeah, I don't know They do like experiments with shit where like people are like nice to plants. I've seen it like tick-tock and like reels I've never looked into that. Yeah, it has to be bullshit. There's no way if you're just nice to a plant it grows better Why do you what an unethical? Experiment cuz then you have to be really mean to another Really racist experiment because then you'd have to be really mean to another plant. It's really racist to the plant. Fucking ficus.

Piece of shit. I fucking hate ficuses. I kill them every time I find them. Not in my yard. And he's just stuck in the dirt in your house. If plants really are conscious and they're stuck in the dirt in people's houses and the people are doing math

and shooting each other, these plants would be like, I gotta get the fuck out of here How am I stuck in this house? It's like that What's that Metallica video one where the guys likes just stuck in the bed and he could do he but he's conscious And he could hear everything it's for a famous movie. I think He's like, you know dude you definitely remember this it's such a famous video. It's the Metallica one video was Johnny get definitely remember this.

It's such a famous video. It's the Metallica One video. It was Johnny Get Your Gun or something is the movie. And it was a guy, I guess he was hurt in war. Yeah. And he was conscious and he could hear everything, but he couldn't communicate. Oh, wow.

Yeah, it's... This is the life of a houseplant right here. Dude, Metallica had some bangers. But the thing is, it's like they know that they communicate with each other. That's what's really fascinating. They communicate with each other through the mycelium and the ground. So it does say they grow better. Look, it says for most plants, playing classical or jazz music cause growth to increase,

while harsher metal music can do stress. Wow. This may be because the vibrations of metal music are too intense for plants and stimulate cells a little too much. We think of this as massaging your plant with a song. They prefer a gentler touch. But how do we know? I want to know the boring bitch who wrote this article. A gentler touch.

How do we not know that it's not that at all? How do we not? I mean, that's an assumption that's like minimalizing their ability to recognize what's going on. Because, right, like put that up again, like how it's explained. Because the way it's explained, it's like, it's here, it says, this may because the vibrations of metal music are too intense for plants and stimulate cells a little too much like how do you know how do you know the plant just doesn't think that music sucks could you imagine it's like you know when they were when they were torturing noriega yeah they would fucking just blare horrible music at him forever

remember that yeah they did that with, it was the big group that was like, it was like a standoff. And then they did it with Billy Ray Cyrus' song, Achy Breaky Heart. There was some, yeah, it was some like, some dude who had like a bunch of people captive

and they played Achy Breaky Heart to fuck with him. I do have to say though, that at least shows a sense of humor by the police. I think that's pretty funny. That's fucking hilarious. That's funny. Play bad music until this dude fucking moves out of the house with the hostages.

But I know they did it with... I'm 99% sure they did it with Noriega. I forget what the songs were, though. See what they did with manuel noriega because i'm pretty sure they surrounded his house in panama and just played horrible music yeah let's see i fought the law oh that's pretty good the clash shit panama by the stadium i guess any song over and over and over again would drive you out of your mind they played panama by van halen you two's all i want is you bruce Cockburn, If I Had a Rocket Launcher,

and they just kept playing it over and over again? Yeah, and the Howard Stern Show. Oh, and the Howard Stern Show. So at least they gave him some entertainment while he was contemplating death. Yeah. Is he dead? Or Diego. Yeah.

Did they kill him, or did he go to jail? That might be even more wild than when they killed him. They take these dictators and they just stick them in a cell. Bye-bye. Never hear of him again. Bye-bye. And then it stops being a news story and nobody cares. Bye-bye.

Yep. Bye-bye, Mr. Person who ran country. Have you ever been in a jail cell, Joe? No. You've never been arrested for anything ever? Nope. Never. Damn.

cell, Joe? No. You've never been arrested for anything ever? Nope, never. Damn. Noriega's mugshot after a surrender to U.S. forces in 1990, age 56. How many people had that guy killed? You've never even been in cuffs? No. Damn. I'm a good boy. You are a good boy. It's the worst. I could only imagine. I'm always very respectful to cops. I'm super respectful to cops too because at that point they're arresting me. I want to get off with a warning. I've never done anything real. I've never done a real crime. It's always for smoking weed or...

They expunge all those. They did. They always should be with everybody with that. We should wake up as a country and realize those laws are immoral. They don't make any sense. I everybody knows for years I couldn't go to Canada if we can drink why can't we smoke it makes zero sense? You guys are you're out of your minds. You don't smoke weed. You don't know what you're talking about It's you it's like that's part of the problem is that the people that are making these laws

They don't have any experience with these drugs. Yeah. I'm good. Good. There's like a certain, I think you should know what you're talking about. And if we lie about it, then people are going to be more likely to abuse it because they're not going to think there's any problems. Yeah. You got to be like fully straightforward with it.

It's probably one of the safest drugs you could use if you're not schizophrenic. If you're not a person who has like that fucking missing screw and then the weed takes you over the top. Because there's a few of those guys. Yeah, I mean I know some people that they're not good on it. I know I'm probably better as a human when I'm not smoking weed. Just in terms of productivity. Just in terms of like just being a little bit sharper, but I'm also miserable and depressed and fucking anxious.

So it's like a, it's a trade off, you know? I like to walk the dance. I like to walk the dance between high and sobriety. I like it. I like both of them. And I think this idea, I mean, look, if you're a person who's an alcoholic, sobriety is your choice. That's the way to go for sure. And you don't need it. And look, you could, you can get high doing yoga. You could, you could feel pretty

good when you run, but if you can handle it and if it's for you, it provides you like a different window to the world. And I think it changes and shapes the way you think about things. I agree with that. But I think that just the difference in thinking does that as well. So if I smoke all day, every day, right? So if I stop smoking for like a week, it's like I'm seeing the world differently. Your brain gets to clear out a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

And it's just a different perspective. It's kind of good to do that. Yeah, I just, and then the other thing, now that i'm getting older i'm 41 now i still don't i mean i can probably research this does weed just not cause cancer does it not like nobody's talking about weed giving them fucking cancer i smoke a lot of fucking weed and i'm just in my head about i'm like dude i'm gonna get lung cancer because i've been smoking blunts and weed for so long. It doesn't seem to. And I don't know why it wouldn't if cigarettes do. Now, here's a question.

Is there a difference between those natural cigarettes that people enjoy, like those American Spirits and Marlboros? Dude, I don't think they're natural. That's good branding because they even have Joe Rogan going, dude, those natural cigarettes. They're not natural. It's the same shit. But that's the name of them isn't it niche the American spirit Yeah, I think it's just some we assume they're natural because American Indians make them

I think is there a bunch of shit in there our research shows the majority of natural American spirit smokers incorrectly safer than other cigarettes Truth out there just as dangerous as any other cigarette. Yeah, dude That's I always like light cigarettes were safer, and they're not at all. No, that's probably even worse. What is in those? Okay, what are menthols? What's going on there?

I don't even know. What is going on? They're trying to outlaw that in California. Yeah, well, because- Did they outlaw it? I think they did a lot, because they say they're going after any of the flavored tobacco shit. You can't get flavored blunt wraps in New York City anymore, because I guess the Anglos are saying that kids are more likely to buy flavored stuff,

which is just, I think that's kind of stupid as well. What about flavored liquor? Yeah. Well, you're not taking away anyone's liquor anymore. How come you can still have flavored liquor? What are you talking about? There's syrupy liquor. Yeah.

Yeah, all the smoking laws are kind of good, too, in a weird way, though. Oh, they do. Because I smoked cigarettes in New York when they started. They were just like, we're going to just charge you a fucking crazy amount for cigarettes. It went from like $3 a pack of cigarettes to like $15 a pack in like a year. And they just priced a lot of people out i was just too broke to fucking spend 15 per pack of cigarettes it was crazy it was like 75 cents per cigarette as like a broke young kid in new york city it's just what's gonna happen so they

they made it the the the age 21 and then they started charging a fucking arm and a leg for it and just kids just couldn't afford them anymore. So I think a lot less kids are smoking today because of all that shit. But, yeah, I mean, when I moved to New York City, you could still smoke inside of bars. And then they changed that like a year later. And I remember being like, no, this is crazy. Who cares about the employee's health?

I don't give a fuck, dude. People did get upset that they couldn't smoke indoors. Yeah. I remember when you'd go to comedy clubs, they were filled with smoke. Every table had an as go to comedy clubs, they were filled with smoke. Every table had an ashtray. Yeah. They were filled with smoke.

But you would hear stories about waitresses that didn't even smoke, and they would get cancer. Yeah. That's when it gets scary. It's like people that are forced to breathe that smoke all day, and they don't even smoke. Yeah. That's fucked. That's an office hazard or a job hazard. You can't force someone to work in those cases.

Yeah, now as an adult, but when I'm a kid where I just want to smoke a cigarette in the back of a bar, it's like you're not. But now we all smoke weed in comedy clubs. That's a weird thing. Well, we just started smoking weed like, I don't know, like eight years ago in comedy clubs and nobody said anything. It was never legal. We just decided we were going to do it.

It was because Chappelle was smoking cigarettes and then somebody was like, no, dude, we can smoke. It's part of the act, right? And nobody said anything, but nobody's been busted. There's definitely way more acceptance of weed. People understand what it is now. And there's so many people that are, like right-wing people use weed.

That's the big shift. Because it used to be that weed is just like for hippies and losers. But a lot of people that are in pain use it. A lot of people that get headaches use it. A lot of people that it helps them sleep. They like edibles. It helps them sleep.

They like it. Yeah, that's the way to go. I got to switch to edibles. I got to switch to edibles because I think putting anything in your lungs over an extended amount of time, there's no fucking way it's good for you. Edibles are totally different though, you know. It's a totally different drug. What do you mean? It's a totally different drug. Like your body metabolizes it differently. Yeah. It becomes,

um, five hydro 11 hydroxy metabolite, right? That's what it is. It's a, it's processed by your liver and it's just a way more potent psychoactive. Oh, and that's probably not good for your liver. I don't know. I don't think it's bad for your liver. I think, especially if you're not like fucking blasting it every day. I've never heard that it's toxic. There's got, there's, it can't all be good. Weed can't just be the perfect drug. There's got to be something negative, right? I think it's negative for some.

Anything in life that's good there, you almost have to like pay for it in a way, right? So that's what I'm just trying to find the angle on why I should stop smoking weed because I still haven't heard of anybody getting lung cancer. I'm not hearing about any negative effects. Everyone's just cool and high and it's cheap now. Yeah, I haven't heard any good arguments. But for some people, they're not productive when they're on it. They can't get anything done.

They just want to veg out all day. But I think it hits everybody. CBD may be harmful to your liver. But it probably won't affect your kidneys or your heart. CBD may raise levels of liver enzymes. This could indicate liver damage. In most cases, this happens with very high doses of CBD when it's taken with certain medications or when it's taken with certain medications.

This is all like- That's crazy. I wonder how much CBD fucks you up. The problem with medical shit like this is you never really know. They have to give you the whole spectrum. And they're like, oh, no, this could happen just so you know. But I feel like- And it could be the anti-CBD lobbies.

Who knows? Human propaganda. Who knows? Who fucking knows anymore with these people? But yeah, I mean, CBD has always been, I've always used it. I've always used it on like, I have a knee injury right now. I use it on my knee. It's fucking great.

Yeah, it's really good. It's great when you got like aches and pains. How much CBD do you get from just smoking weed though? You probably get some, right? Probably get a decent amount, right? I think they make strains that are like higher with CBD or have more CBD than THC. Yeah, I know a lot of people who just smoke CBD joints where it doesn't have any THC at all, which is like, what kind of Franken medicine are you doing over there, man?

Those people. I would love to meet that person and try to sell them anything. Bro, they're making new life. If plants really are intelligent and we're making, like splicing them together and giving them superpowers, it's fucking, it's weird what botanists can do. I was in Costa Rica a few weeks ago, and, like, I'm never, like, in nature like that. Like, and it's a really, dude, it's really cool. Like, the, we were at a place called Manuel Antonio Park.

I don't know if you've been there before. And it's just, a huge like nature reserve, massive, massive park. And one of the more interesting things were like the trees. Right. And we had a tour guide and I don't know shit about this, but there are certain trees that start attacking each other.

And they like one tree would wrap around the other tree and kill that tree. And then the other two sort of growing specific roots that break that other tree. It was the coolest thing I'd ever, I was, I i was also high but it was the coolest thing that i had ever fucking heard of and i was like there's so many like and they had like a bazillion plants there and like it's just such a crazy crazy world that's some fucking real like alien life shit when you move away from like animals and you start looking like plants there's a lot of crazy plants out there yeah there's a lot do you know that they splice different species of plants together?

I think it's avocados and pistachios. I forget which one is the bottom and which one is the top. This is counter to what I just pulled up about liver. Oh, marijuana may protect the liver from alcohol. Yeah, it says those liver enzymes can protect against alcohol. Just two articles that disagree. Marijuana is the perfect drug. It's the same fucking internet giving us two different things.

But that's like smoking it versus CBD. The CBD thing is almost mostly edible, right? It said that they didn't know which strain they were using, so they didn't know exactly what part of the cannabinoids were protecting. Interesting. They need to do more research, but they did 320,000 people. Yeah, that's the thing that used to suck about those THC pills.

Remember they had those THC pills? What the fuck was that called? There was like a synthetic marijuana that was invented. Oh, yeah. Do you remember that? Like spice or some shit. There was ones that you could buy

in like delis back in the day that was like, it looked like weed. No, no, no. Wasn't like delis back in the day that was like they look like weed wasn't there like a pharmaceutical it was like a real thing yeah what was the purpose of that marinol marinol that's right it was a pharmaceutical version of cannabis is that what it was it was in i remember it, but I don't remember what it was Do you remember this no I never heard of it. Yeah, there was like a weed pill eyes We're out in California though. You guys got a lot of shit that we just didn't get But I I don't even Okay cancer treatment for okay. It treats nausea and vomiting caused by cancer treatment

So instead of giving people actual marijuana, they gave them this Marinol shit. And people were diagnosed with AIDS. The medication comes in capsule form. You can take by mouth as directed. The brand name of this medication is Marinol. Yeah, that's what it was back in the day, right? It was for nausea. That's why people would smoke weed.

That was the only thing really, when they first started talking about medical marijuana it was like for cancer patients, for nausea it would help you eat and then they started figuring out all the other shit that it's good for CBD especially, right? so yeah, maybe that's why it doesn't cause cancer maybe it's fighting your cancer simultaneously

while you're smoking it there has been I don't know, but you gotta wonder what's causing cancer, maybe it's just like decreasing inflammation general, and that's probably what's protecting you from cancer. Maybe. What am I guessing about cancer? I'm fucking terrified. I'm terrified of cancer.

It's terrifying. It should be terrifying. Yeah. You should be terrified of all kinds of things, like asteroids, ice ages. I'm not terrified of asteroids. I've never once thought about it. like asteroids, ice ages. I'm not terrified of asteroids. I've never once thought about it. You always hear about them like,

oh, they miss the Earth by like, it's always like 100,000 miles. That doesn't seem that close. Yeah, it's just a time thing, Lewis. It's just a time thing. What do you mean? It's just a time thing. We're going to get hit.

It's inevitable. It's happened thousands of thing. We're going to get hit. Yeah. It's inevitable. It's happened thousands of times probably while human beings have been alive. Look. Some of them are big. If an asteroid hits Mars and we hear about it, then I'm going to go, all right, fuck. We're in trouble. Well, they had a big one hit Jupiter once. Oh, really? Yeah.

And they really were surprised because the impact was far larger than they thought it was going to be. But it was an enormous one. Apparently, that's what protects us. Jupiter is so massive that it sucks up most of the asteroids and comets. That's what allows us to not just be pelted all the time because there's hundreds of thousands of these near-Earth objects that are just fucking flying around. Joe, why are you trying to scare the audience right now?

I don't really know. What is your aim of the year? I'm not trying to scare anybody. These people are terrified right now. This is just what I think about all the time. The gas giant regularly absorbs hits from comets and asteroids, protecting their inner solar system worlds. Damn.

Yeah, I think they have the photo of it getting hit. But it got hit by some just fucking dinosaur killer. Just some big one. Just shot, boom. Yeah, something like that. That's a wrap. So that you could see it. You could actually see it get hit.

There's just no control with that. There's nothing that I can do. If we get hit by an asteroid one day, that's that. I can control not giving myself cancer by smoking blunts every day or maybe that's what's making you not have cancer you know damn maybe this is my Jupiter that's my Jupiter saving you yeah that's your Jupiter there we go yeah just space in general it's like the most insane prospect ever this infinite thing that we exist in, and there's rocks flying through it

that occasionally slam into the planet and cause civilization to reset. Is that actually what happened with Big Bang Theory, right? That's the idea? Is that what killed the dinosaurs? Well, Big Bang Theory is the beginning of the universe. What killed the dinosaurs is one of these asteroids. I'm an idiot, yeah. You're not an idiot. I don't know about any of this stuff. What killed the dinosaurs is one of these asteroids. I'm an idiot.

Yeah. You're not an idiot. I don't know about any of this stuff. You don't think about asteroids all the time. I don't think about asteroids. I think about them all the time. I think about them all the time. Because I've had these experts on.

They've fucking permanently mind-fucked me. Especially Randall Carlson. He's this dude that, along with Graham Hancock, they've come up with this theory that uh human beings got hit by asteroids somewhere around 11 000 11 800 years ago and civilization just reset and we were basically like savages for thousands of years which totally makes sense and then the civilization that emerged from that like Babylon and Mesopotamia the first civilizations we know of like Sumer and those were probably a

reboot like thousands of years of chaos before they figured out how to calm down and Develop civilization again. Yeah I don't know about any of that shit. dude. How do you talk to these people? You're a fucking comic. Were you always this dude? You were, like, super interested in, like, everything? Because I watch you interview people, and you're really fucking good at, like,

having these conversations with these people in all of these fields, and I'm going, like, god damn, dude, like, how do you have the capacity to take that all in and fucking just be interested? But it's only things that I'm interested in. Because no comic that I know does that.

Like literally no, every other comic is a fucking idiot who's just smoking weed or drinking beer and just trying to show up and get some pussy at the end of the night. And I think, look, you know, to compliment, because it really is, I think, why you created something so big is you're so interested in so much stuff that I think it made like, it gave you this like mass appeal. But was it like always that way? Or was it doing the podcast that turned you into that? Well, I've always been curious, but then doing the podcast allowed me to have all these conversations with people. It's like getting a, an accidental education. It's like about just a broad range of subjects. But for me, it's just interesting.

Like I like listening to people and talking to people and finding out how they tick. Who was the most interesting person you had on the show ever? Man, there's probably not one most interesting. There's been a lot of them that are interesting. Elon's pretty fucking interesting. That's a rare one-of-a-kind human being. Yeah. You know, they don't make many of those.

Yeah, he just said, I'm going to buy Twitter. Yeah. That's crazy. And he overpaid for it by a lot. Yeah. It's gangster as fuck, man. But he really, truly believed that we're in a very pivotal moment in our civilization when it comes to what is happening, particularly with censorship. And when you have something that's essentially the town square for the world, which Twitter is,

if you prevent people from other ideologies or other points of view or other political parties, if you prevent them from using this space and only people that agree with you can use that space, that's dangerous. And he recognized that. And I think we all do. That's fucking dangerous. I know you think you're doing it, whoever's doing that,

because it's the right thing and we have to protect people from bad ideas, but that never ends well. It just doesn't end well. You're going to give that control to someone next after you're gone because that's going to be like a thing we do now. You're going to give that control to new people and they're going to turn it the other way. They're going to use it on you.

They're going to use it against causes that you believe in. We were headed in, before Elon bought Twitter, we were headed in a really weird it seemed like very dangerous direction for comedy for anybody who you know anybody who wasn't like super left-wing liberal if you were trying to create shit online it was like it was scary i was like and i do you know we do legion of skanks most offensive podcast on earth we say a lot of fucked up shit but i was like we are not going to be able to even put shit on the internet anymore forget just like you know twitter or anything else like i think they're going to scrub it all from the internet and then elon came in and he kind of made people go like wait a minute hold on that was we were getting crazy and people kind of

pause you see shane has a special out on netflix now i feel like we've sort of calmed down a little bit. And that was a big part of it because it was like, well, no, we need to even the playing field a little bit. We need to hear all opinions and hear both sides. So I was actually legitimately worried. And now it seems like this is a little bit of a pause in that. Definitely a change of course. The problem is all the other social media platforms are essentially run by people who think the same way. They have the same opinions on things. There's no one social media platform that stands out that's like a huge place where other than Twitter now or X, where you could just say whatever the fuck you want. Like people are saying Michelle Obama's a man. Like you say the earth is flat. There's like plenty of people that are talking about the earth being flat.

Yeah. That's also fucking crazy. Say whatever the fuck you want. And there's a, there's a, there's only one platform like that. Yeah. Like all the other ones. It's not like there's a bunch of those. It's like you can go and say whatever you want on Instagram

No, you can't they'll put a fucking thing saying fact-check or this is incorrect and misleading information And and even sometimes I've gone to some of those fact checks I'm like you didn't fact check this at all right like this is just like not approved. This is a not approved message Yeah, I am that's why I try to disconnect from it as much as possible. I think everyone should. I think it's truly like the downfall of society is social media. I think we're sharing ideas too quickly, too dangerously. I don't think it's that, but I think it's transforming society. I think we better catch the fuck up. We better catch up.

Well, we will. And look, I think part of it is a lot of these, they don't really know how to handle it. It just moves too quickly. Right. Right. So I think that we're going to look back at this time and we're going to go, oh, yeah, that was like a real, it was just us getting a hold of the internet. The internet just fucking came out.

And then we got social media and it's just transformed everything. The whole world, we're all connected. I mean, dude, we're,, dude, the world is tiny now. It doesn't even feel like, but I think we're going to look back and go like, yeah, we were irresponsible with it. We were trying to destroy each other. We were trying to hurt each other with it.

It became like warfare so quickly. I tweeted out a joke the other day. It's a dumb joke about Amber Heard. I don't have a dog in the race. I don't give a shit about Amber Heard, Johnny Depp, that whole thing. Like, from my perspective, it looked like two crazy people abusing each other, right? It's kind of hot, right? But who gives a, the whole joke is that Amber Heard is so hot that I would let her shit in my bed.

I would let her shit on my couch, on the kitchen counter. You know, dumb joke. Very mild. Dude, all of these fucking chicks that are Amber amber heard supporters are coming after me on Twitter still to this day three days later non-stop just kind of like you don't know amber heard she was abused your and I'm like this is fucking psychotic dude like it is digging up my old tweets they're like looking up anytime I've said anything questionable and they're reposting I'm like idiot I posted that it's public. Are these real people you think think? I don't know. Or is this like a media campaign company? I think it might be a media campaign company because they all

have like a hashtag stand with Amber and their thing. I didn't even post her name in it. I just posted the joke. I'm not accusing her of this, but you know, that is absolutely a real thing. Yeah. That is absolutely a real thing. There's a way that you can just defend a person or attack a person with bots. I think, yeah.

I think they're for sure using it. Look, we know the Russians are using it. We know that they always find these troll farms. Like one of them, they found that 19 of all the top 20 christian sites on facebook were run by russian troll farms really when i found out that they were like uh russia like interfered with the in the election like with like social media and shit i was like that's kind of fucking awesome it's badass i wonder they certainly tried and i'm sure we try with theirs.

The question is, was there real interference? Because the thing was like, Russia hacked our election. I don't think that's true. I think you can push information. I know Trump and Biden both did this, right? They both had massive social media teams, I'm sure. I know comedians who have massive social media teams, so I'm sure that they both had the best of the best.

And yeah, they both went in and manipulated algorithms and did whatever they had to do in order to get their message in front of the most people possible. And that's the game now. That's a big part of it. Yeah, that's definitely a big part of it. But it's also, it's just like, this is not going to stop right here.

This is what freaks me out. You know, this introduction to social media, like the whole country kind of freaking out, but it seems like more calm now, right? Like, what's next? Like, what is the next thing? Well, the next election cycle is going to suck. Yeah, one way or another.

It just sucks. Because you know what it is? People on the left, they start attacking movies and comedy and music when they feel like they're under attack. And when Trump was in office, the left was like, dude, we are under attack. This is like, we're losing the world. So they had to just, anything, dude. Any podcaster who, you know. I mean, dude, it was nuts.

It was articles being written about comedians like Shane and the Legion of skanks. It was really crazy. And it was just because Trump was in office and they just felt like they were at war and they had a win. They had to get their wins where they can get them. And right now when Biden's in office, people are really leaving comedians alone. And I'm telling you, I think they'd scar it. We, we, we have this win.

We don't really need to go after comics. I found this yesterday. I found it's kind of relevant. Uh, when Rockefeller center was like empty in the 30s and 40s the british security coordination organization came in it's a part of the british secret service and as it says here that they'd use like that space was their head offices the 35th and 36th floor of rockefeller center where they disseminated and controlled part of the media for at least a year or two before World War II, it seems like.

Wow. Disseminated stories, picked up by radio stations, played before the American public. Yeah, it's propaganda. Anti-German stories. Yeah, that was always the thing. They've always been fucking with us.

Oh, I wanted to ask if this is true because someone was trying to convince me the other night that those stories of bricks being left off in neighborhoods where protests. Has that been substantiated? I lived in New York during that time. It was during the whole, it was the BLM protests? Yeah, it was during the BLM protests. It was there was the BLM protests. Yeah, it was during the BLM BLM protests and Without a doubt there was just fucking huge piles of fucking bricks in multiple places in New York City I saw with my own eyes

Weird just there was no construction happening if there would just be a fucking massive stack of heavy fucking cement bricks Jesus and it was out of nowhere Somebody put him there As it relates just side note I'm a was that no before the riots had you ever noticed piles of bricks like construction sites you would see a construction site and you would see but they they always with a construction site and once again I Smoke a lot of weed in public so we were always looking for like back alleys and shit to smoke weed in stairwells I used to sell comedy clip tickets on the street

that's how I got my start in comedy in New York city all throughout, you know, the early two thousands. And, um, you can't really get into construction sites. It's always chained off. They always have the,

the sites are pretty controlled because people will steal shit. Right. Of course. You wouldn't just leave your bricks out. Bricks are valuable. Yeah. Cause then if someone's coming home, they go,

look, there's a fucking pallet of bricks. Yeah, dude, grab them. That was definitely true. And I don't know you know the kids So you saw more than one of those more than one with my own eyes? Because I was I was having this conversation. I was like is that was that really why did I hear?

That some of that was bullshit, but well because but I didn't look into it the conspiracy was led into it Sorry the conspiracy was that? Like the police were leaving it out or conspiracy was that um like the police were leaving it out or right-wingers were leaving it out so blm protesters would use it and look worse that was one of the theories huh um was there another theory that they wanted to accelerate the possibility of chaos by giving people readily available weapons. That's the better theory. This would add to the conspiracy for sure. NYPD commissioner says bricks are being placed and then transported to peaceful protests.

What? Councilman then calls them construction debris. What? I also saw a bunch of BLM protests and they were legitimately peaceful. I'm sure. The ones in New York City were like, it was, you know, they were just protesting. They were banging fucking drums. Yo, that's crazy.

They just left bricks out there? What is that? That's definitely different than all the other stuff we saw where it was like a giant pallet. Yeah, they were. Right, but this is plenty of rocks that someone just dropped off and left with the box tops open.

Yeah. Remember people were putting rocks in milkshakes because the whole thing was- Destruction debris. Throw milkshakes at people? At Nazis, yeah. Jesus Christ, man. This is insane. But it's like, yeah, I mean, and I think the internet is a big part of the hysteria.

People get worked up. People just didn't, if you have to give a fuck, right? Before you had to get a book or you had to go like really research some shit, right? You had to go out. If you cared about something or you had to care, you had to really put in the footwork and physically care. Now people can sort of pretend to care while they're just being addicted to their phone, while they're being addicted to Twitter and all these other social media platforms.

And they're being tricked into just you know Looking at advertising because that's what it's all about They get to also pretend that they care they get to feel like they're doing something and then it just starts to snowball and then It turns into fucking like real chaos and people at each other's throats about shit that people don't even really give a fuck about If you're in the supermarket like people are just cool like in real life You know market nobody gives a fuck about who voted for who. Nobody cares about, you know, what your political beliefs are. We just coexist and we do what we do in real life. And then we jump on the internet and we just fucking, it's a war.

Well, I think it's also got exacerbated during the pandemic, right? Because everybody stayed in. They were at home. Their anxiety is high. They didn't know if they're going to be able to work again. Like, who knows what the fuck's going to happen? Yeah. People were freaked out.

And then they got more freaked out on social media. And you're on it all day because you don't have a job. You're at home now. So you're just kind of fucking weirding out in front of your Twitter all day. You know, like, people have lost days and days of their lives just staring at other people's opinions all day long. I'd be embarrassed to tell you my screen time number it's embarrassing do you know what yours is no i don't know what it is dude it's fucking mine's like nine hours a day wow it's bad that's not good it's really bad you

look at these type in screen time to the search bar. Screen. Maybe not. I don't know. Yeah, it's like nine hours. It's like eight or nine hours a day. It's crazy. It's wild. You got to think, oh, I'm getting some things done.

You pretend you're working. Yeah, but also I'm tuning into the world. I got to check in on the world and see what's going on out there in the news. But really just hitting that button. What a weird addiction. Yeah, there was that documentary where they talked about, like, they designed it that way. When you refresh it, it does, like, a little physical,

like, little blip, and you want to see it. You want to see, like, another interaction. And it's like they compared it to a slot machine, right? You go, boop, did I get anything? Did I win? Did I win? Did I win? Oh, I got likes. I got replies. I got whatever. And, yeah, it's super addictive. It's also kind of, in some ways, there's something dehumanizing about it. Because more and more people are just communicating through text messages and online social media and stuff and not

communicating that much in real life. Yeah. I think kids are sending each other text messages more than they're talking to each other. Oh yeah. You don't mean my son just got a phone for the first time. He's 10, uh, just got his, uh, his iPad for the first time. Um, I, it was a conscious decision that me and his mother made. We said, we're not going to have him be addicted to a screen

and staring at a screen all the time. You see kids in restaurants, as soon as they sit down, they give him a pad or a phone, and they are disconnected from the entire conversation. They're not making eye contact. I wanted to give my kid every chance possible in the world to be successful, and he's such a bright kid. He shakes people's hands. He looks them directly in the world to be successful. And he's such a bright kid. He shakes people's hands.

He looks them directly in the eyes. I mean, he's just such a little gentleman. He's the fucking best. And I think a big part of it is the fact that we just didn't enable him to do that. We didn't allow him to do that. But yeah, I'm super fucking scared of my kid growing up. Also, I'm just scared of my kid finding all the shit

that I've said online. I have to like fucking, I have to like, dude, I'm telling scared of my kid finding all the shit that I've said online. I have to like fucking, I have to like, dude, I'm telling you right now, I think about that every day. Every day I'm like, dude, he's going to fucking, because he's from this new generation.

He's a good kid. He's a sweet kid. And he's obviously 10 times more woke than I'm ever going to be, right? He's just, it's just the generation. And I just, I'm so afraid that he's just going to look up the shit that I say and out of context,

just not really understand, you know, why we say stupid shit to make people laugh. Um, yeah. So, you know, I'm, I'm, so I'm just secretly trying to make him racist. I whisper things in his ears at night when I put him to bed. Do you, could you imagine your kid doing standup? Would you even encourage it? I would not encourage it, but I would not discourage him from doing anything that he wanted to do.

Like literally anything. Right. And he has done stand-up. Really? Yeah, because he, so we did the roast at Skankfest in Houston for me, and we, me and my ex-girlfriend wrote him a few jokes, and he did the jokes, not at Skankfest, he did it like a video.

And then, so he was really into that, and then I was at the stand one night with, just at the comic table I brought him and Bonnie McFarlane was there with you know and she's got kids as well

Bonnie's awesome Rich Voss' wife and he was like oh I want to go on stage I was like James you're not going on stage if you want to go on stage I was like

if you really want to go on stage in a few years I was like you can write some jokes take it seriously go to an open mic do it the way that a comic would do it right

and he was like okay yeah you're right dad and then i went on stage and then two minutes later bonnie mcfarland comes in the room with him and she's like here put him on stage and she shoved him up on stage and yeah he started roasting me and talking shit about me and he did well um you know he's he's a little performer dude he he's in like musical theater and he's like super well-rounded kid yeah he does jujitsujitsu now he just won his first jiu-jitsu tournament gold medal first tournament congratulations that's awesome the best thing i've ever experienced as a father in my entire life was watching my son win a jiu-jitsu tournament there's not dude there's nothing fucking better better than the day he was born by far it was the fucking best that's amazing he dominated another dude's cum. That was that. My cum went in there and dominated another dude's cum.

I did that, really. That's my metal. I wear the metal around the house. But it was really fucking, that was the coolest thing I've ever experienced in my life. That's very cool. Sounds like he's on a good path. That's awesome. Yeah, he is.

Beautiful, man. But yeah, I mean, you know, fucking, I feel bad for like this next generation because I don't even think they realize what's happening with that. It's just that addiction to your phone. That's really what I think it's going to be is eventually we're going to, everyone's going to have this sort of opinion and attitude

because people are starting to get wind of it that it's bad to be on your phone that much. And I think just parents are going to just start saying like, yeah, no, you can't be on a fucking cell phone all day. You can't be on it. And I think it comes down to us. I think we have to make a decision to do that with our kids. Yeah, you got to teach them discipline for sure,

but also recognize that everyone is using these things and it's a part of civilization now. I really feel like if we could see the writing on the wall, we would be terrified. I think human beings are, we're slipping into some weird place where we're for sure within the next few years going to be connected to computers. Oh, yeah. How we're going to do it, I don't know how they're going to do it. Whether it's something you wear or something that's in you.

But it's coming, kids. And it's almost like all these things are falling in line at the same time. Like all these endocrine disruptors and plastics that are fucking up people's reproductive systems. And then at the same time, we're all getting addicted to phones and not as personal Hmm, you know because people aren't really communicating hanging out just talking to each other without checking their phone every five It's gonna be the future is gonna be us looking at each other and downloading each other's thoughts Oh fucking cuz you could airdrop pictures and shit now. It's literally gonna be like here take this picture just with a fucking thought Yeah, and it will 100% is gonna happen. They're already they're already doing shit, right?

They're already making devices that can go in your body that connect to to other shit i'm sure i'm sure it's so much more advanced than we even know think about think about how much we don't know right there's got to be some crazy shit going on out there for sure really unethical shit some darpa shit that's going on right now hey what is um what what was that i want to see elon musk basement what the experiments that he has going on right now it's is um like what was that i want to see elon musk basement what the experiments that he has going on right now it's probably 18 miles deep um what what is that uh thing they did where they uh where they recorded uh human thoughts like someone was watching something and they got a recording of that from something this person was wearing. I saw it. I saw it.

Yeah, bro. That is like just think. Morse code was not that long ago. Yeah. It's wild. That was not that long ago. And it seems like technology will just move now with AI. It's just moving faster and faster

and faster. It's like it's really cool but it's also it's yeah it's just moving faster and faster and faster it's like it's really cool but it's also fucking terrifying that's the shit that I'm terrified fuck asteroids dude this shit that we're talking about right now is the shit that keeps me up at night no is this it scientists record a Pink Floyd song from patients brain waves yeah this is it the tech could eventually allow for communication without words. What? 100% if these eggheads keep going, we're fucked. Oh, yeah, dude. We're going to be doing crazy shit.

That's the really like, and then you got to figure like it's going to be who's rich, who has the best computer built into their body because the same guy who can afford a fucking Lamborghini is going to have a super brain and his computer is going to be faster than your computer. He's going to be able to download and upload information faster than you. It's kind of wild. You're going to have to be an early adopter, right? You would have to be one of the people who gets the brain operation first,

and then you'd be way ahead of everybody. Yeah, but that first one's going to fuck. That first one's going to fuck up, dude. The night before the operation, are you first one is going to fuck up. That first one is going to fuck up, dude. The night before the operation, are you sure this is going to work, Harry? Harry, look me in the eye. You're going to cut it

into my brain. Are you sure? I'm pretty sure. I don't want it here, pretty sure, Harry. Yeah, dude. Dude, it's fucking nuts. That's like those people

that went on that, you know, the fucking submarine thing in Titanic, dude. Any, dude, it's fucking nuts. That's like those people on that, that went on that, you know, the fucking submarine thing. Yeah. Titanic, dude. It's like, what a cool thing that must have been to like sign up for you. Like, dude, we're going to go to see the Titanic. And then, that's fucking wild, dude. That could have been you, Joe. You could have been down on that thing.

No? Not a fucking chance in hell. Was it Mr. Beast? He said that they invited him to go do it? I am not hopping in that fucking backyard smoker and dropping into the bottom of the ocean. Would you go to space? Get the fuck out of here. Right now in one of these charters?

No fucking chance, son. You love space. Those things blow up. You have to go real fast to go into space, kid. Those things blow up. I'm not interested. Not until they get that shit down like an electric car. When they get a spaceship that moves like a Tesla, just, okay, I'm in.

Yeah, just not worth it. I get it. Look, starry nights are beautiful. I get it. I get it. I get you'd want to go out, get real high, and come back down. I'm good. You can fucking keep that. I trust that it I get it. I get you'd want to like go out get real high and come back down. I'm good You can keep that I trust that it's up there. I don't have to jump at the top of a cliff. I'm good I'll just sit down and look at it from here

They're like even as high as we get like what we're calling space like look we've made it into space We're like looking that far off the earth's surface. Yeah, this is so much into space. We're like fucking that far off the Earth's surface. Yeah. There's so much out there. Is that what those tours are? You just go into space for a second? Yeah.

You just go like and come back down. Oh. Like you don't like go to space space. I want to go land on the moon. I want to check out Mars. Yeah.

You're not going to Jupiter. Yeah. Fucking dodge some fucking asteroids. You know what I bet they will be able to do probably really soon is to give you a vr representation of what it would be like to travel through space oh i bet it already exists i i went i had um yeah there was a nasa thing that i had on my oculus yeah

that was a good it was super cool i mean it was like it was just a movie essentially it wasn't like i didn't get to like free move but it was like i was on like um like a space station type thing so you were like moving all over it was really really cool is this it no what is this jamie i just looked up space trip dollar space that's the first thing that popped up get the fuck out joe you would go mad that i'm looking this is a space elevator and it's gonna fall and everyone okay so you got a little bit of extra bro I am not going in a fucking balloon what if it gets hit

by an asteroid looks like your studio Jeff oh my god it does podcast in a balloon no rockets no g-force no listen you got it

they have to do it a thousand times before I even think about doing it a six hour journey cocktails six hour journey see that's crazy

if it's bro I am not going up there. Perfect place for a podcast. Perfect place to fall to your death. Like how many fucking fail safes? Do you do nothing dangerous? I'm sure, I should say for the record, I'm sure it's safe. Yeah.

Do you do anything dangerous? $100. $125. $125,000? Oh. What? dangerous like uh dollars 125 125 000 oh what refundable deposit so 125 grand to go up in a balloon yeah well i hope it works in six hours i feel like that's kind of disappointing i feel like space should be more than six hours away in a balloon i'm scared of anything that people are trying out like flying cars i'm like just drive that for a while you you drive it for a while yeah dude i'll be over here even like this just the self-driving cars that fucking like you hear about once in a while they'll just fucking go

haywire like mistakes happen yes mistakes happen and then you're just in a car that you can't fucking stop and it's like mowing people down. It's a nightmare. I have a Tesla I never put the self-driving on. Yeah. I mean, I do sometimes when I'm on the highway just for goofies. Do-do. Yeah. And it just drives itself, but I keep my hands on it.

So it completely self-drives. Yeah, completely self-drives. Up to a point, but I don't let it. You know, it's just, to me, it's just like, I'd rather just be really tuned in to what I'm doing and paying attention. Yeah. My car, because I fall asleep. If I drive for more than an hour and a half, I don't care what time of day it is, I start to doze off immediately.

I get like road hypnosis, they call it. Do you have sleep apnea? No. No? You sure? Yeah. I don't think so. Did you ever get a sleep study?

No. Just guessing. Yeah. No, I don't snore, though. No? Do you have to snore to have sleep ap? No. Just guessing. Yeah. No, I don't snore though. No? Do you have to snore to have sleep apnea? I think so. Yeah.

Yeah. I think that's part of it is because you're choking. Super common with guys, especially guys that work out. Yeah, I don't snore at all. Or guys that are overweight. Yeah. But yeah, no, on my car, I have an Audi and it has like all the lane change or the lane correction shit. So if I start to doze off, it'll, and it has all the lane correction shit.

So if I start to doze off, it'll just automatically shift back into the lane. Jesus Christ. It automatically keeps a certain distance between the car in front of me and the car behind me. Oh, wow. Yeah. And I've still been into five accidents since I started driving again. I moved out of New York City during the pandemic, 2020, and I've been in five accidents with this car. My insurance is $1,800 a month, Joe.

What the fuck, dude? Yeah, it's wild. Why are you so bad at driving? Joe, I have- Is it your fault every time? I get road hypnosis and I fall asleep all the time. No, that hasn't been it. It's always, dude, I'm just a fucking pothead, dude.

And I'll just back up and I'll just, there's a fucking car. And I hit it. And it's never anything bad. It's always like, you know, like fender benders. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I called up my insurance company. I was like, what the fuck is going on? I was mad at them.

And I was like, they were like, sir, you've been in five accidents. We shouldn't even be insuring you. And then I changed insurance companies and now it's like $1,200 a month. Wow. For car insurance. Yeah. There might be car insurance. Yeah. There might be a bargain. Maybe.

Depends on your activity. Doggy. That's not good, though, dude. Is it because you just didn't drive for a long time before you lived in New York, and now you're back driving? I drove when I was 16. I moved to New York when I was 19. Didn't drive for 20-some-odd years. Oh, that's what it is.

And then I just came back and then I just I got a little bit too like the all the bings and the dings when you're like backing up and you're almost hitting shit it's great but then I started depending on it like a little bit too much and I just stopped paying attention and then you know my phone will ring I'll look down and then here we are I'm in a fender bender

yeah yeah that's not good I feel like I'm a good driver. No, I bet you're not. But every guy thinks he's good at whatever. I'm a fucking awesome driver, bro. If I played tennis, I'd be number one. How do you define a good driver, right?

Like, fine. If you take out my accidents, I feel like I'm good at steering the car and turning it on turns. That's like if you're saying to your teacher, if you take out all my Fs, I only got As. I'm careless. I think I'm a bad person, but I'm a good driver. That's the problem. Well, the careless part is a bad driver. Yeah.

Like, by definition. Joe, you're winning me over on this argument. You have to. On that one, you got to let it go. You know what? Fine. It's like, you can't be good. I'll say right now, I'm a bad driver. Yeah. Like, by definition. Joe, you're winning me over on this argument. You have to. On that one, you got to let it go. You know what? Fine. It's like, you can't be good. I'll say right now I'm a bad driver.

I've never said it publicly before. I've never admitted that to anybody, but I will say it to you right now, Joe Rogan. I am a bad driver. It's okay. Yeah. You can be good at other things. It's normal. Especially taking that much time off, man.

That's a big readjustment as an adult. 20 years plus of not driving and also you're driving if you did road gigs would you get Reynolds I? Say that again if you did road gigs did you get rental cars? Before when I was yeah, we've been 20 years. Yeah noted. No, I would do public transportation uber I mean really I'm also a bad uber rider like I'm bad I have the worst of my uber ratings like abysmal Why is it so bad because I'm a dick to uber drivers very often I'm gonna tell you why alright, so this is it all came from New York City when I was in New York City

I live my life Like I like to be Whatever it is. I like to be right on time like I showed up exactly at 1230 today on the dot I like to just I don't like being early I don't like being late but when you live your life that way you're very often late because things happen one thing will go wrong

if the Uber driver made a wrong turn today that's that right so very often when I would get into Uber cars I would be running late for something already. And I'd be like really like anxious and just like, oh, fuck, I got to go. I got to go. And then they make a wrong turn.

They wouldn't pay attention to the GPS. Like if an Uber driver doesn't pay attention to the GPS and they start doing their own thing, I would just be like, dude, what are you doing? I mean, come on. You got to pay attention to the GPS. And then you're like, of course, they're going to give you a one star like immediately. So, yeah, it was that. But it was just I'm not not that much of a dick. I just feel like-

People are very sensitive today. People are super sensitive today. And when people can complain that easily, with just a little touch of my button, ruin your rating, sir. Yeah, it's a bad Uber rating. I've been denied rides. They don't know you, though. People who know you know you're a lovable guy.

But on the surface, when you're yelling at someone about GPS, they might think this guy might be an asshole. I know. If they got to be your friend, they go, no, he's a great guy. No, that's just Lewis. That's just Lewis. He's a great guy. One of the things he does. But if you're like a sensitive person, also, if you're driving an Uber, there's always this fear of picking up a psycho.

Yeah. There's always this fear. So even a little bit of an aggression towards an Uber driver. The Uber driver's like, where is this going? Yeah. How many Uber drivers have been murdered? I'm sure a lot. I don't know.

Probably less than the cab drivers. Oh, gypsy cabs? Dude, there's no paper trail. In the 90s, there was a terrifying rash of murders in gypsy cabs where I was living in New York. I was living in New Rochelle. And these gypsy cabs were getting – I'm good. These gypsy cabs were getting like heisted and they'd just shoot them in the back of the head and steal all their money. And it was really horrible stories about these, like, poor immigrants who came over here,

and they're driving these gypsy cabs, and people are robbing them and shooting them. Yeah, my uncle Howard, God rest his soul, was a gypsy cab driver, and in the 90s, he was hitting the back of the head with a hammer. Jesus Christ. Guy just fucking put a hammer into his skull. Didn't kill him. His... Oh, my God.

It's a big guy. He was like 6'6", big fucking burly guy. And, yeah, then they just stole his car. He rolled out. He was on the George Washington Bridge. Oh, my God. With a hammer in his head. Yeah, but you could feel the hole was still in his head, dude.

They never, like, filled the hole. Oh, Jesus Christ. I mean, dude, I don't know what type of doctors we were going to They were supposed to fill that hole. I'm sure But it was like an actual like doctors back then Yeah I mean if you got your knee operated on I have a buddy of mine was on the US ski team and he got his He has more operations than anyone I've ever met and he had his knees fixed in the 80s

that anyone I've ever met. And he had his knees fixed in the 80s when they used to open you up like a fish and they would take a chunk of your hamstring and just screw it all in place and try to fix your ACL and maybe it'll stick and maybe it won't. Your leg's compromised now because a chunk of your hamstring is missing.

It was brutal shit, man. That sucks. He had both of his knees done like that. I got to get surgery on my right knee now. I got a knee scope on my left knee. When you say you got a knee scope, so your ligaments were intact, but your meniscus was torn? Yeah, my meniscus was torn, yeah. So they came in and they cleaned out all the little loose pieces.

It's still kind of sore, to be honest with you. If they trim it, it's going to be sore. It's going to be sore for a long time. Yeah. No, but it was a while ago. I haven't gone to jujitsu. I went back to jujitsu too quickly. I went three weeks after I got the meniscus surgery.

You've got to wait longer than that. Yeah, I went back and I was like, yeah, I can do it. And then I was just walking out of the movies with my girl. We went to go see Cocaine Bear. And we walked out and she said something. And I looked at her and then I just literally twisted my ankle. My knee just jerked again and now it's in pain here. And this one, every time I step off my right foot, it clicks.

Every time. And I remember you hit me up and you're like, oh, dude, reach out to the knee over toes guy. And I was like, Joe, I don't have your life. I can't just reach out to knee over toes guy he's not gonna like oh dude sure yeah let me fucking answer this guy's questions I so I watched like two of his videos I started walking around backwards in like fucking the city people looking at me like I'm a lunatic I'm like I can't do this I'd rather have bad knees and walk around backwards if you have a treadmill that's the best way to

do it yeah did you try it on a treadmill I did at the gym I couldn't get it to move he said to do without it being on i think it was the treadmill wasn't designed to move oh i see yeah when it wasn't on but yeah i was you know i was doing a little bit of backwards jogging um but yeah dude i haven't been able to go back to jujitsu since yeah give it time and um another thing that could help you is um if you've uh did you ever get PRP in there or anything to help it heal up? Oh, platelet replacement? Platelet-rich plasma. That can kind of help heal after injuries, help you heal.

A lot of people like that for injuries. Yeah. Maybe stem cells. Maybe consider, like, going down to, like, that place in Tijuana. Yeah. You know, get your knee like while it's recovering, hit it with stem cells. That'll help you too.

I should. I should do all these things, but I will probably just live my life in pain. Yeah, but it'll fix it. It'll make it better, man. It really will. I know. I got to motivate, dude.

I'm just always so busy that I never have time to take off to do shit. You know what I'm saying? It's really, yeah, it's really, yeah, it's tough, but I, and I miss jujitsu.

Jujitsu is the fucking dude. It's so, what a bad-ass fucking sport. It's so cool. It's very good for you. It's good for your head. It was, yeah,

it was great, dude. Yeah. It's great for your head. Yeah. Like the rest of the world seems like, so like not fearsome anymore. You just spent the last hour and a half trying to get guys to not strangle you.

You know? Trying not to get your arm broken. Just trying not to get your fuckin' back snapped sideways. Every day you walk into it and go like, oh, I'm going to find out what I'm made of today. And that's psychologically to go into, and I'm gonna be in a lot of pain today. And to face that, it's similar to working out, not like I'm gonna be in a lot of pain today Yeah, and to face that it's similar to working out

But it's you just is different because it's like it just felt so much more real like actual live rolling and sparring It's just it was like it's real. It's like you're really trying to fucking Eddie Bravo said it best he said it's like you're playing a real-life video game Yeah, because you're playing a real-life video game like you got a video fighting game, but you're playing it with your body. Yeah. Yeah. I miss that. I really do. And it was something that I really connected with my son.

So we were like, you know, neck and neck. I got my blue belt finally. And just like being able to actually know what I'm talking about with him, it's really cool, you know? And we trained him for this tournament. He was in class three to four days a week, but then we have mats at home. And I was just He was in class three to four days a week. But then we have mats at home.

And I was just working with him at home a couple days a week. And it was just a cool way to bond with my kid on a different level. And that's why I really, really miss it for the most part. Well, it's not over, dude. Just be careful. Just be careful getting back. You can fix that. Yeah.

And now I'm boxing. And now I feel like a fraud every time I box. I'm like, dude, I could just take you down and fucking choke you out. This is like boxing and now i feel like a fraud every time i box i'm like dude i could just take you down and fucking choke you out this is like you just feel like a fraud it feels silly with like putting gloves on and boxing feels you're thinking about it wrong man you're learning a skill no i know it is awesome it's still badass don't get me wrong but i when i think about it as like a martial art i go this doesn't, it just doesn't seem like the same type of superpower that jiu-jitsu felt like. It's not, but if you don't have it,

you're in real trouble. Because if someone has it and they're very fast, they can fuck you up before you can get close to grabbing them. And if they're athletic, they can avoid being taken down. Like, a takedown's not easy. That's like the hardest part of jiu-jitsu. Bro, what if it's someone like Terrence Crawford

who used to wrestle? Yeah. Used to wrestle, knows how to wrestle. His kids can wrestle and he knows how to box. Are you sure you're going to grab him and take him down?

You're probably not going to do jack shit. He's going to fuck you up standing. There was a good video and it was like just a jujitsu coach and he brought in

a professional boxer and that was the whole exercise. He had all of his jujitsu guys trying to take this guy down. The guy could only box and they could only try to take him down and this guy was just really good and his footwork was his jiu-jitsu guys trying to take this guy down. The guy could only box and they could only try to take him down. And this guy was just really good and his footwork was incredible.

And they just couldn't get close to him. He was just, he was toying with him. And it was- Especially in a ring or a cage. No, this was just on mats, like in a, but there was walls. But as long as there's some space. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know?

And yeah, it was, it was, it was just, it was a reminder. You're like, oh no, no, it's not a foregone conclusion that a jiu a jujitsu guy is just gonna go take a striker down and be able to joke him out You got to get there You know dude especially in this day and age how many kids grow up watching the UFC and start training at a really young age Yeah, you never know who the fuck knows what now and if two guys decide to square off in some open field somewhere like You're just just rolling the dice there's some uh there's some great videos on the internet where you see people that know about fights and they break down street fights yeah and there was like oh you can just see like the stance of the guy who

knows how to fight and you're like oh no this guy knows how to fight this guy's about to get before they even throw a punch like this guy's about to get fucking annihilated and um yeah you'd never know and that's why i became a pussy after i started training i literally dude i'm afraid of everybody now because i know exactly how bad i am i know exactly how slow i am i know how old i am i'm like oh dude i am a fucking bitch and i'm way more able to protect myself and my family today than i was you know years ago but when i was when i was a kid before i knew ever knew anything about fighting at all, I would have fought anybody in front of me.

I thought I was a tough guy. I really did. And then once I started training, I was like, oh, dude, I'm not tough. Literally, I'm the least tough person that's in this class right now. Well, tough is one of those things that people like to think they are

without any proof. It's true. It's like being a good driver. It's real similar. Everybody wants to think they're tough. That's like being a good driver. It's real similar. Everybody wants to think they're tough. That's a man thing. We were raised to be. And that's also, I think that's kind of primal.

I don't think people lose that. Because my son is a nice kid. And his mom's super fucking liberal and very much a feminist. And we raise him very balanced. But he still wants to be tough. He still wants to be tough he still wants to be tough he still like fucking just has a thing in him little boys they wrestle in the rough house and they and i don't think i think it's just a natural thing that we have in us um as dudes and

i think women naturally want to be pretty and they naturally want to have you know nice things and take care of things i think these are natural things that we sort of beat out of our you know beat out of ourselves or beat out of our children. Well, some people definitely do. And I think there's this phrase like toxic masculinity. That's like the worst aspects of masculine behavior, right? So people associate even masculinity with the word toxic sometimes just because together they're terrible. with the word toxic sometimes just because together they're terrible yeah you know but yeah it's not it's not praised you know but it's so normal as long as it's under control and the best thing about jiu-jitsu and martial arts in general is the people that are the practitioners

of it they're the they're probably way less likely to get into street fights they're probably way less likely to get into street fights. They're probably way less likely to go and purposely hurt people. Yeah. They're probably way less likely to go and pick fights. And not 100% because, you know, you always get bad apples. They just are badass dudes, you know, troubled people that just learn how to fight and then become scary. Yeah. That does happen too.

Yeah. It was War Machine. That guy, I mean, just a fucking bad apple. Yeah. how to fight and it becomes scary yeah that does happen too yeah it was war machine that guy uh i mean just a fucking bad apple yeah that was that was a crazy story but yeah you'll see rare it's rare though i mean all the people at my gym it's most it's a lot of cops it's kind of like it's a lot of cops and there's a lot of fucking just like potheads and they just come they all just meet on the mat dude and everyone's cool yeah um bryce to roll with this cop and he's a good dude who's funny as shit but he said i don't give a fuck if you've

got a medical license i'm busting you i was like dude what's wrong you know i smoke weed you know a good guy like why are you so like a fucking the law is the fucking law man he cared about the law it was just like i'm busting you. I wonder if they have pressure to make a certain amount of arrests. For sure. Oh, yeah. There's quotas. Isn't that insane, though?

That's nuts. Because imagine if just culturally we all agreed to one month of no crime, and we planned for it for a year, and there was no one speed no one did anything everyone stopped at every stop the opposite of the purge what yeah what do the cops do what do they do when they have these quotas do they just start firing cops like what do they do is dude they have to give tickets they have to that's how they make fucking money they have they i get i get so many parking tickets too i I'm bad at parking. Not only am I bad at driving. I can't even park the car.

I would get arrested in New York as a kid in my 20s. It was always on sweep nights. There were two nights a week where they would take in everybody for any infraction. So very often you just get a ticket to appear in court and then they give you a fine. If it wasn't a sweep night. But if it was a sweet night and you get caught smoking weed, pissing in public, open container, they take you to central bookings. You have to spend like 24 to 48 hours in jail, see a judge. Um, and it was just this whole part of this process where they were just collecting cash. It is just collecting cash. That is what they're doing. Every time, every person they're bringing in has to to do has to deal with a fine

And that's that it's just it's a racket That was the same thing with like like stop and frisk they they they were just literally writing tickets writing tickets Yeah, that's that yeah friend of mine is a cop used to say it's glorified revenue collecting. Yeah Well, that's what it is now. They're figuring out they can make more money off of weed by having it be legal than off of writing tickets. Yeah. So what's that? There's a tipping point. So they defund the police. Yeah.

And then crime goes up again. It's fucking wild, dude. It's so dumb. All of it's so dumb. Yeah. Bro, it's just such a weird time for people and thinking. It's so strange because there's so many different changes that are happening all at the same time.

They're all just kind of piling into each other in this weird chaos of change. Yeah, it's fast. Real fast. It's fast. And that's where it's like, you know, that the speed, it's almost, you don't have time to be comfortable anymore, you know?

Things just change so fast. There's always something new happening. There's always something to give a fuck about. Every week there's something new that we're supposed to care about. It's like at one point you want to just sit at home and just fucking go like, all right, let me just enjoy life. At what point do you run out of room in your Twitter bio for flags? Yeah, I know.

When we start getting involved with some other countries too. It's crazy. That was the best. I don't even have this joke anymore, What if we start getting involved with some other countries too? That's crazy. That was the best. I don't even have this joke anymore, but I kind of was trying to talk about it in my act about how everyone cared about the Ukraine for like two weeks because then it became Gay Pride Month. And June hit and then everyone just changed their flags to gay flags since everyone stopped talking about the Ukraine.

They kind of stopped talking about Maui real quick. Yeah. This is the flavor of the week. It's whatever the new, people don't have the attention span to care about something for more than a couple weeks. The Maui one is wild. Because here's the question.

How much would it cost to rebuild every home that was burned in the Maui fires? How many homes were burned? Let's find out. Dude, I was on vacation when this all happened, so I just missed the news cycle. home that was burned in the Maui fires. How many homes were burned? Let's find out. Dude, I was on vacation when this all happened, so I just missed the news cycle. So I'm one of these people, I just really don't know much about it. I know that Maui, a bunch of homes burned, and there's a lot of people that were displaced.

A lot of people died too. Yeah, a lot of people are missing. Jesus. Yeah, it's a terrible, terrible, terrible story. 2,200 buildings. 2,200 buildings, about 86%, which are residential, were destroyed. The cost to rebuild is estimated to be $5.52 billion. Now, as a point of reference, one of the checks that they sent to Ukraine, they had accidentally sent them $6 billion more. Wasn't that the number?

Accidentally, wow. Wasn't that what they said? There was like an accounting error? Yeah, but I don't think that that's what it means. Yeah, I know. It's a little more complicated than that. But just as a point of reference, that would rebuild every house. Yeah.

Just the accidental overpayment would rebuild every house. Yeah. Just the accidental overpayment would rebuild every house. Dude. But imagine that the government would literally, they could just choose to do that, and everyone would get behind it, and they would rebuild every house. And everyone would be like, cool, finally the government does something good. But the problem is a lot of people are dead, man. A lot of people are dead. They don't even know the numbers yet. Yeah. It's very, very very very spooky and very scary. What was it started? I was like a power lines fell and hit grass and just imagine me that sucks

It's horrifying man Just watching those people bobbing around the water while ever everything around them is on fire in fucking Maui Who would have ever predicted that? Yeah yeah that's never happened there yeah that's wild dude it's but you know everybody's like there's so many wild conspiracies like directed energy weapons were used and this there's all these like crazy conspiracies about people preparing for this fire in advance like every time something like this happens just the super sketchy conspiracy theories start flying yeah people are bored they want something yeah there's got to be a story it's good you know there's got to be a a villain it can't be just some simple shit. Well, also, a lot of times there's real villains out there.

That's the other thing that sucks. I know sometimes people are looking for villains that aren't there, but that's because they've found a bunch. It's like if you go mushroom hunting and you find some really good mushrooms, you keep going mushroom hunting. They've found a lot of things that turn out to be real. And you're like, what the fuck man yeah dude every time the problem with conspiracy theorists are they believe all the conspiracies so it's like dude if you just if you were like hey dude i believe the earth is flat and you know that's what i believe but it's like they also

believe that fucking dinosaurs aren't real yeah it's like every nuclear bombs aren't not everything is a fucking conspiracy dude just pick one and then maybe you can convince me of it. The Earth is flat thing. I've never had anybody be able to even articulate it in a way where I understand why they think that. It's not. You could watch one of those videos, and you could be compelled, if you don't have a good understanding of what's actually available in terms of like satellite technology and how they've been utilizing it forever and how you can take the images that are from Japanese satellites, American satellites.

They show everything in the exact same place. There's no disparity in terms of like, wait a minute, they think Africa is shaped like this. Wait a minute, where's the ice wall? There's no ice wall. It looks like every other fucking planet we've ever found. It's shaped like this. And wait a minute, where's the ice wall? There's no ice wall. Like, okay, it looks like every other fucking planet we've ever found. It's round. The idea that this is the one that's not round. So in a lot of ways, it's a biblical thing.

And I'm pretty sure in the beginning, it started as a troll. I really think so. I think there's a lot of these 4chan guys. There's an Amber Heard bot. These guys are amazing. I think these are a lot of these 4chan guys. There's an Amber Heard bot. Fucking. These guys are amazing. I think these are real people that are just bored. Yeah. And they just come up with some shit and they implement it.

For sure. I mean, these are the same guys that, you remember when that dude, the actor, Shia LaBeouf, he had this website about Trump and it was like, he will not divide us. Yeah. He had this website about Trump and is like, he will not divide us. Yeah. And he like had a flag that was streamed 24-7 from his website. And these super nerds online, they figured out exactly where it is in the country by looking at the stars in the background. Yeah, that's right. And then like figuring out where the constellation would be.

And then they all started showing up. Yeah. And so they started honking their horns to hear if they heard themselves on the webcam. And then the guy finds the flag, takes it down, and looks at the camera and goes, Fuck Shia LaBeouf. How do you not love that? How do you not love that? Shia LaBeouf probably loves that. Honestly, it's objectively hilarious. Bro, it's objectively hilarious. Bro, it's objectively hilarious.

Yeah. That's hilarious. And the crazy thing is Radiolab did a podcast on it. And it was a really funny podcast. It was really good. Radiolab's a great podcast, by the way. And they did this podcast on it, and then they wound up taking the podcast down. Because people were offended that these people on 4chan who

are responsible for this like these people they say horrible things online and inappropriate things and racist things and they show violence and you're you know you're supporting them so they like you just as a whole for like anyone on 4chan is considered a racist or violent that's the idea i don't think i think there's just a lot of chaos on those places yeah when you're anonymous you can you can and it's funny like that's just the truth right trolling is funny there's a great episode of south park where they get into it and then the dad stan's dad ends up being like a big internet troll and he's just you know they're torturing some fucking female athlete

and they're trying to get her to kill herself. That's the angle. Jesus Christ. And there's a moment where like, he's just so frustrated because people don't understand why he's trolling. And he's just like, it's just funny. And as a comedian, you have to,

I get trolled fucking endlessly, dude. I mean, so much. I really get it a lot online. You know, Legion of Skanks fan bases, we make fun of each other so much that that's almost the language that we speak. So most of the time it's just fans. Most of the time it's people that actually like me.

But when you remove yourself from it and they fucking get you with a good zinger, a good funny one, you have to just laugh sometimes. I retweet it. I'll fucking, you know, it's part of their experience on the internet is fucking saying mean things sometimes Yeah, and what we have to pay for being able to legitimately live our dream

Right is sometimes people are gonna say mean things about us, and if that's it. That's a fair trade That's not a bad trade-off at all you know You know sometimes they get you with some real truth They hit you with some truth. You got to look in the mirror. But it also keeps you in check and makes sure that you're not really turning into a fucking Hollywood asshole. And that's the truth. That could happen.

It happens a lot, yeah. It does happen to a lot of people. And it's confusing when it happens to some because you're like, God damn, they got you, bro. They got you? You used to do that show. Okay. Yeah. You know, there's you, bro. Yeah. They got you? Like, you used to do that show and you're, okay. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of those guys.

They just want to be safe. They just want to be safe. They want to be comfortable. Want to keep that money flowing in. Yeah. And. Okay. That seems like a trap.

Like, it seems like you have to stay that person forever. And if you ever rethink your ideas, now you're in trouble. Because now you're connected to a certain group of people that think a certain way and everybody sort of decides what everybody else thinks about ukraine or trans kids or the climate electric vehicles i want to see people who also just like don't fall in line on one side like everywhere it's like every even like covid was the craziest thing right watching that happen watching that become politicized i was like how is this possible it's i mean like it's just like at the very least whether you think it's like real or not it's not about like a political belief right if you if you if you were afraid of it or if you weren't afraid of it or if you believed in getting the vaccine or didn't it just became such a politicized thing

and i was like you're a nazi if you don't want to get a vaccine. You're like, how is that possible? How did you jump to Nazi? Whether it's intentional or not, it was like a psyop was run on America. Whether it's intentional or not. If you're a conspiracy theorist, you'd think it's intentional. If you're not, you think that the measures that they put in place led people to be isolated in extreme anxiety, which has kind of never really happened before, to collectively to mass groups of people. And then they're on social media all the time, which is very disconnected from human interaction. And we get to watch them get more isolated from each other

and more polarized and also more susceptible to propaganda. Because a lot of critical thinking people that in the past would have questioned pharmaceutical drug companies all of a sudden were all on board crazy all on crazy who's on board with pharmaceutical drug companies cite the data and like why don't you trust the science that was the craziest shit ever it's just watching people you're like like how are you not at least questioning it we have a brand new drug we're putting into our body how are you not saying hey you know what? At the very least, go, I wonder if that's going to be safe. I wonder if that has been tested enough.

It's both safe and effective. Right, exactly. How are you going to? But it is both safe and effective. Of course. You know what else he said that about? AZT. Yeah. Back in the AIDS crisis.

See, you can find that. Video Fauci talking about AZT being safe and effective but there was a story AZT's was not that's the thing that killed everybody oh really yeah the AZT was a is a chemotherapy medication they stopped using for cancer patients yeah it was having a negative outcome on cancer patients like it was killing them crazy Wow and they kept people on that yeah dude. Dude, you got to read or listen. Do you listen to audiobooks?

Yeah, I listen to audiobooks. Listen to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s The Real Anthony Fauci. Does he read it? Because I... Dude. No. Jesus Christ. Are you fucking crazy?

Fuck this, dude. I'll give you nightmares, dude. You know, he believes that injury actually came from flu shots. Oh, really? Because it's a throat injury? Some sort of, it's apparently whatever disease that he has is also a side effect that some people get from some flu shots. Wow.

Well, now I feel bad. I thought he just had a shitty voice. Now I feel bad that I made fun of this. Yeah, he suspects that that's where it came from because he used to get yearly flu shots wow well now i feel bad i thought he just had a shitty voice now i feel bad that i made fun of this yeah he's he suspects that that's where it came from because he used to get like yearly flu shots yeah steve-o uh his voice jeremiah walkins just told me this on my podcast the other day steve-o his voice is like that from vomiting glass no from vomiting so much from he was at like parties like you know throw up you know goldfish and it and puke on each other all the time and it just burned his vocal cords. That's literally the nastiest injury

I've ever heard of in my entire life. He's such a sweet guy. He's the best. I always want him to stop hurting himself. Whenever I'm around him, I'm like, stop hurting yourself. He's literally one of the sweetest, warmest people. Sometimes you meet, I don't like meeting famous people. It makes me uncomfortable as fuck. I'm just not built to hang, warmest people. Sometimes you meet, I don't like meeting famous people. It makes me uncomfortable as fuck.

Like, I'm just, you know, I'm just not, you know, I'm just not built to hang out with famous people, right? Some people are. Shane Gillis loves meeting a fucking famous guy and fucking party with him for a weekend. I was like, that's crazy, dude. He's just partying with Nate Diaz this weekend? Who does that?

Nobody just meets him and goes off and does that. But, you know, fucking, oh shit, I'm sorry. I'm high as fuck what was i who did i bring up partying oh no steve-o yeah steve-o steve-o i mean just one of the most down-to-earth people i've ever met when i first met him just couldn't be any more just like a normal dude yeah super nice and then his wife they're just super cool super nice people they're just so kind just easy going sweet guy sweet guy big comedy fan fun dude man just fun dude fun dude to be around always a sweetheart it's nice when you meet people and they're you

know they're super famous but they're also like gen like post malone it's like genuinely friendly guy yeah you just had him on right sweetheart of a guy had him on and then we went and did kill tony together yeah i heard that episode and metzger episode. Oh, my God. It was so fun, dude. Yeah, it was so fun. It was so fun. Fucking David Lucas. David Lucas is so funny. He told Post Malone he looks like an unemployed crocodile hunter.

I was fucking crying. Shit. Is this it? I don't know. Let's hear it. I don't know either. Play it. Let me hear it. Is this it? I don't know. Let's hear it. I don't know either. Play it. Sorry.

Yeah. Safe and effective baby that's the drug that killed everybody yeah it's fucked up I just know it from the play Rent

yeah it's also Dallas Buyers Club yeah that was the whole that's what he was selling yeah man that is

that's a real story dude AIDS was something that I was terrified of that's the scariest part of that book the scariest part of that book is the AIDS crisis stuff

yeah yeah dude AIDS was like my generation. I mean, you were already like banging. You were a little bit older than me. Well, when I was a kid, I remember when Magic Johnson got it, I was in my car on the road driving.

Was it like 89 or something? What year was that, 90? I think it was a little later than that. Was it? When did Magic Johnson? 92, little later than that. Was it? When did Magic Johnson? 92, I want to say. Was it? Maybe 91, hold on.

Yeah, because I remember it well, and I was born in, so when I was seven, I just wouldn't have been that connected with, I was maybe like 10 or 11 when. 91. 91. Okay, so I think I was still living in Boston at the time, and I remember, yeah, definitely, because I remember driving down the road and I remember that feeling like oh my god. Everyone's gonna get a yeah That's what I thought everyone's gonna get it

That's it if magic can get it and then I had to get insurance I got how to get health insurance, so I had to get a blood test for AIDS. Oh, and I remember just panicking panic My first aid says I fucking cried. I had had sex with one person. I mean, it was a guy with AIDS, but... No, I lost my virginity to my girlfriend. I got an AIDS test after that. I was like, that's it. To this day, I have really bad anxiety

about going to the doctor. Like I said, I'm terrified I'm going to get cancer one day. And dude, AIDS was such a fucking thing that they were like, you're going to probably get AIDS, kids. In health class, they would come in and talk about it like it's, you know. Terrified. People were terrified. Yeah.

Everyone was terrified. There was, you know, that made-for-TV movie about, you know, the kid. They got a. Ryan White story. know, the kid, they got, Ryan White story. Yeah, the Ryan White story. And that was another thing. It was like, don't become blood brothers

with your friends. Oh God, that's how he got AIDS? No, no, no. There was a scene in the movie, which I don't know if maybe they dramatize it,

but they go to become blood brothers. They all want to do it. And he was responsible and was like, no, I can't. I'll tell you guys why I have AIDS. And then they went back and told their parents and the parents were like get this fucking aids

kid out of school i don't know how much of that's actually true but i believe that's what i remember from the made for tv movie and it was like the that the story was that children normal just fucking regular children could get aids and i know it. He got it from a blood transfusion, I believe. But, yeah, dude, it was a real, like, just genuine fear that they put into us that was genuinely just stupid. None of us were going to get AIDS unless you were using needles or having, you know, butt sex with dudes. Do you remember the wildest thing that people were doing?

They were bug catchers? Yeah, they were trying to get AIDS. Dude, you were running around trying to get it. Yeah, dude. What? That's some deviant shit, dude. That's some fucking... That's some deviant shit.

That is some dark shit. We're all on whatever spectrum of devious, you know, we're all on the spectrum to a certain degree. Whatever deviant shit you like, you like, you know, when you're in the bedroom, we all do our own shit and we all like our shit. And, you know, I understand that just from that perspective. That's just somebody who's like, you know, when you're in the bedroom, we all do our own shit and we all like our shit. And, you know, I understand that just from that perspective. That's just somebody who's like, I want to fucking live on the edge.

Sometimes they get tied up. Or maybe it's not even they want to get AIDS. I bet it's the fear of are they going to get AIDS? It's like. Right. Like, I like the fucking public sometimes, right? I don't want to be seen fucking in public. I like the fear that somebody might catch

us right right bad boy yeah and that's it yeah my dick's getting hard right now joe talking about let's go um no yeah but i think that that is just like a just another level of fucking deviousness that they're like that's a crazy wish to get a deadly disease yeah unless you don't believe in it but i i wonder how much of that was stone story there's probably very few people it's probably like three dudes yeah it's probably not super popular but if if you get on social media and you're a bug chaser i bet you get a lot of hits oh yeah oh yeah if you're if you're a bug chaser. Oh, dude. It's guys with AIDS like finally Finally, I don't have to have this weird conversation

That's fucking wild dude imagine having AIDS. Oh my god, that would suck. Yeah, I just can't like and they say oh Yeah, you can live with it forever now. You just take it's undetectable Do you still have to tell everyone you have AIDS that sucks? Yeah, it's undetectable Can you give it to people when it's undetectable? I don't think so. I think if you're taking like PrEP and it's undetectable, they'll test you for it and you can't transfer it. That's what they say. That's what they say. It's not comforting for someone who might give you AIDS.

I had a guy on early in the podcast. His name's Dr. Peter Duesberg. He's a professor of biology from the University of California, Brooklyn. Duesberg? Yeah. Do you know who he is? No.

He believes that what was going on with their immune systems was mostly caused by partying. He said, if you look at all these guys who are having this disease, these guys are all engaging in group sex. They're all taking methamphetamines. They're taking amyl nitrate. Ecstasy. Poppers. They're doing all these wild party drugs. These guys that specifically are getting very sick

are also doing these wild party drugs. And he's saying he thinks the wild party drugs is killing them. Right. And then introducing AZT kills them more. Right. And it's a crazy position to take because I think he lost his funding. This is also in the real Anthony Fauci book.

He lost funding. He's a professor. He's a tenured professor, but he can't get funding for anything. Like everybody sort of shuns him. And he did like legitimate work in cancer So he's a legitimate biologist like for him to believe that so he believed that the reason why HIV Existed in these people that had AIDS is that HIV is a weak drug a weak virus rather and it exists In a person who's got an immune compromised system and that a normal person would just fight it off

That's not a strong virus. But what you would even catch it or it off that it's not a strong virus but what you catch it or he was saying it was not a simp that having hiv his his belief i'm fucking this up i'm sure but i think it was that having hiv didn't mean that that was what was giving you the compromised immune system but the fact that your immune system was compromised was probably why you had HIV. And that even in babies that test HIV positive when they're young, a lot of times they're HIV negative later. Find out if that's true.

But it was a weird conversation because I'm like, how could this one guy be right? How could this one guy be saying this? And I'm not really qualified to dispute it you know i don't know what the fuck is right or wrong i'm just trying to figure out which person's telling the truth and when you you talk to him you're like he's a very intelligent guy what does it say here if the virus did not infect the baby, the baby will eventually lose its mother's antibodies and test negative for HIV.

A baby born to an HIV-positive mother will thus always test positive for HIV. Whether that newborn baby is truly seropositive or not. So it says, again, if the virus did not infect the baby, the baby will eventually lose its mother's antibodies and test negative for HIV. Huh. So it's, again, if the virus did not infect the baby, the baby will eventually lose its mother's antibodies and test negative for HIV. Huh. So it's HIV negative.

So the baby that tests positive for HIV then tests negative later. Yeah. I don't know if he's right. It doesn't make sense that he's right. There's all these other virologists, all these other people that have different opinions. It doesn't totally make sense. Well, I think just being healthy just in general, you know, my assumption is that's why Magic Johnson, everyone's like, oh, he, you know, obviously him having money for good drugs

helps. But he's a professional athlete. I'm assuming he just was super fucking healthy. He listened to his doctors. He wasn't out there and doing drugs and partying. How did he get it? Was it ever disclosed how he got HIV? I don't know.

They said they're heterosexual got HIV? I don't know sexual sex Right The only guy ever What do you consider heterosexual sex like what's normal you guys becoming blood brothers What are you doing where you're the one guy who gets it from heterosexual sex? I remember there was an episode of Penn and Teller's Bullshit, which was a great show on Showtime back in the day. Fucking great show, like way ahead of its time. Before, like, there was a lot of podcasts out there.

Before, it was just a fucking really good show. And they would just kind of dispel bullshit in each episode. And they talked about AIDS. kind of dispel bullshit in each episode and they talked about AIDS and they just went over the numbers of how unlikely you were to get AIDS if you had sex, even with an HIV positive woman, because of how much it exists, you know, um, you know, I guess within vaginal fluid. Um, and I was like, Oh really? The whole fucking time. It was crazy. And then I remember I, we, we ended up watching the movie kids after you remember the movie kids harmony Korean movie. Um, and the whole point of that movie is that fucking you know

The girl gets AIDS and the you know she's trying to find the guy that gave her AIDS throughout the whole movie They said normal normal sex right yeah, so in my mind I'm going like all right The whole plot of the movie doesn't make fucking sense probably to begin with but then the very last scene of the movie the big The big ending is spoiler alert one of the other guys that is in the movie ends up date raping the girl with AIDS she's like passed out on drugs on the couch and he's and he gets AIDS well yeah so that but that's the big like dun dun now he has AIDS you assume but after that I'm like he probably didn't get AIDS he probably got away with it we thought you

get AIDS if you just like kiss somebody back then I was terrified did I made out with a girl from South Africa when I was like 20 and I remember and she was white and I was like dude after they have like huge AIDS I remember being like dude this is it I got AIDS her teeth were probably bleeding yeah the Africa AIDS thing is crazy like there's certain countries where it's literally like a third of the population that have AIDS. Yeah. And in those countries, how many of them are in severe poverty? I'm assuming all of them. Right. So then they're also severely malnourished. That's always the case. Like I wonder how many of those people,

they actually test for HIV. I wonder how many of those people, they declare AIDS because their immune system is severely compromised. I wonder what the number is. Yeah. Because you got to imagine that a lot of those people that have acquired immune deficiency syndrome, if you have like a serious, obvious culprit, like no food, tainted water, like terrible living conditions, dirt floors, like that's going to fuck your immune system up too. Yeah. Everything's going to fuck your immune system up too. Everything's going to fuck your immune system up too. You're starving.

You know, it's just diseases are fucking horrifying. It's just horrifying to think that there's a thing that could just take out giant swaths of the population. And they know we're horrified of it. Oh, yeah. That's what sucks. Yeah, they're kicking up some more dust about another COVID now. There's certain things that have gotten closed down.

What sucks is now they know we'll jump. You think people will? I think a lot more people are going to be way less willing to sit inside, not go to work. There's a cult that emerged, the Branch COVIDians. Everybody knows it. There's a bunch of people that are out there that are in a fucking covid cult whether they realize it or not it's a segment of it's not even necessarily left wing

there's some right wing people that are part of this but these fucking people they they committed to it they got it they told other people to get it and because they did that they're never going to see the light yeah they're just not going to And they're lining up to get boosted now. That's crazy. It's wild. Yeah. I, I didn't,

dude, I didn't really live like the pandemic was happening. I still, I still did comedy. I was on flights where it was me and like three other people during it. I didn't, if I just, I just,

anywhere I could go, I went on vacation a few times. I went to Jamaica. I would just take a COVID test to fly. Then I had to take a COVID test to fly back. Yeah. I just didn't want it to affect my family like that. That's why we moved out to Jersey.

New Jersey, it was like night and day difference. And Jersey's a blue state, but like, I mean, I just don't, I don't even think it is. I have no idea how it's a blue state because there's so many fucking American flags on like front lawns in New Jersey, everywhere, all over New Jersey. Well, it came that close to going Republican.

Yeah, I bet it did. It was like down to the wire. Yeah, I bet it's a close one. But yeah, I mean, I just wanted to, you know, just fucking have some space. The city was so locked down and so like- You just gotta learn how to drive. It's almost cheaper to just take Ubers now at this point.

Is it really? Yeah, well not- Oh, with parking and everything? Yeah, with parking, with insurance, with, you know. Yeah. Oh, especially your insurance. Yeah. Yeah, but if you want to do a road gig, Jersey always had great road gigs, fun road gigs.

Yeah. There's always a lot of them. Yeah, Jersey's got a bunch of cool places. Yeah, there's always like when I was there in the 90s when I was coming up, there was always places you could headline as weird spots. Yeah. Down the shore. Because it was a branch of New York City.

There's so many great comics right there that rooms just start popping up all over the place. Yeah. Especially during the summer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a place, Uncle Vinny's, down the shore. Now, it's a little fucking, I mean, dude, it's hilarious. It's a little shitty comedy, but it's awesome.

Dino's the fucking man. Shout out to Uncle Vinny's. Go support that place. But it's just like a little road spot. You go down the shore. He books me every fucking February. How about you book me in the summertime, dickhead, instead of February when it sucks.

But yeah, there's a bunch of places that are just like that, that are just easy to get to. And back in the day, like, you just wanted the work. Because spots in the city, when I started, were fucking 50 bucks on the weekends, 20 bucks on the weeknights. There was just no way to sustain, you know, a living. You have to go take road gigs. 500 bucks, 600 bucks. But I was a little bit, I'm lucky because when I really started headlining, we already had the podcast,

we already had a little bit of an audience, so I didn't have to do those really shitty gigs where you gotta go perform for people who don't know you, don't wanna see you, which exists in cities. When you go to a city like New York, not for you, but for most comics, the audience is just there for the show that night, they're not there for any particular comedian.

And I think you get a real gauge as to what's good with those types of audiences. You definitely do. It's like you have a lot of different places where you could work in New York and in Jersey and everywhere. There's all these different, like having all those different looks is very important. And those late night shows when everyone's tired, those are important too. You get to see the bullshit in your act. You know, late night crowds, 30 people there.

How do you do that now? How do you see the bullshit in your act? Because you're so fucking famous, you have your own club, like how, what do you, there's gotta be something, right? There's gotta be like, because they're gonna hang on every word you say, right? And they're gonna fuck, you're gonna, when's the last time you didn't crush, Joe?

You still are trying new shit. You're still gonna fucking paint yourself into dark alleys. Yeah, yeah. If you try new shit, you're gonna, you're gonna paint yourself into a dark alley. But your comfort level's different. So you're like, I'm better at getting out of those. Yeah.

But if you're writing new stuff and you're fucking around with it on stage Which is really how you have to kind of do it I always have like a general idea what I think is funny about something and then when I bring it on stage I'm like, but what the fuck is why are we doing it that way? And then and then I can like sort of expand on it with all these points that I have but I kind of piece it Together on stage. Yeah, you got to put it together on stage with all these points that I have, but I kind of piece it together on stage.

Yeah, you got to put it together on stage. Sometimes it sucks. Well, some guys just write the jokes down and then they go and tell them on stage like that. And like, that's crazy. I know comics that like just write and they write their standup in their cadence and then they go on stage and tell it. I'm like, every time I tell a joke,

it starts off with some dumb idea where I'm like, it's just a little kernel, like maybe one or two punchlines. And then I try to like build it out from there. Or maybe I have a couple it starts off with some dumb idea where I'm like it's just a little kernel like maybe one or two punch lines and then I try to like build it out from there or maybe I have a couple jokes about a similar topic and you try to put it together make it like a chunk um but it always has to be worked out with like the reaction of the audience and that's why it's really important you know for them to be there and those late night shows we used to do check spots in New York City have you ever been to check spot yes it would drop fucking checks I'm you do it as a headliner you know most clubs yeah still have you know they still drop the checks on the

headliners which is a terrible way to do it with the check spot is someone who comes out specifically to do stand-up while the checks are getting dropped so you get like like ten minutes set yeah like ten minutes and literally you're just people are pissed off they're they're paying way too much for drinks people going to the bathroom for not paying attention they're trying to get their attention and uh you have to dig yourself out of that hole dan soda was the check spot guy at stand-up new york when i met him he was the guy like every check spot on the weekends and it fucking turned him into a killer it turned him into a real killer dude it was such a tough spot

um but you it made you really good at just being in that moment and you're just not nervous anymore because it's the shittiest spot possible. But yeah, I think those things are good to have for young comedians need that. They need shitty rooms. They need reps, right? Yeah, yeah. No, that's fucking an important part of like having

a lot of clubs around too. You got a lot of places to do stuff like that yeah well that's why austin's great now for comedy is because you guys legitimately just created a scene like out of nowhere it was i mean there was a scene here there was actually a good comedy scene um before you guys before the creep before these clubs actually started opening up um but like now it's like legitimately like five or six real clubs and then there's like 15 or 20 rooms It's like New York was in the 90s. That's like a really good place to develop Yeah, it's fun. And then there's cap City at the domain where a lot of guys are coming in doing that for the weekends

Yeah, I still haven't been have you been no I do the creek. I want to just see it. Yeah, I Never been here at school. I know that area. I was just in that area. Yeah. I've never been. I hear it's cool. I know that area. I was just in that area. Yeah. Yeah, Austin's amazing. It's just fucking hot as balls, dude. I don't understand how you guys do this shit. It's fucking, it's 100 degrees every day and it's September.

Yep. There's a, I don't even, somebody told me this the other day, it's a great death metal band name. I don't know the band, but the band's name is texas in july which is such a brutal fucking name for a band that is a brutal name for a band yeah like scorpion dick yeah yeah it's uh it's hot as fuck here but uh i like it yeah it doesn't bother me well if you're in shape it's like uh when i when i'm in shape i like it being a little hot. You get a little sweaty, you're like, oh, it's fucking great. It feels healthy, you know? But when you're fat, dude, it just sucks dick.

That makes sense. You see fat people here, you're like, what is wrong? You just move, leave. Well, they have so much insulation too. If you're a really large person and you're just like thick with fat, like fat in your arms, fat everywhere, that's like you and I wearing like large coats, like thick, heavy coats everywhere you go.

Like that's got to be a lot of insulation. Yeah. All that body fat, and then you're out in the heat cooking like a brisket. Brutal, dude. When my son's mother was pregnant, I weighed 320 pounds. Jesus. I got big. Jesus.

We just ate the whole fucking time. Jesus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, dude, being fat in New York City in the summertime is a nightmare. Walking up and down the subway stairs, I mean, it's just, it's really. How did you pull yourself out of that? Just diet and exercise. You know, I've done it before.

I was 320, 330 pounds in college. And then I started just sort of working out when I was like 26, 27. So when you were like 26, 27. So when you were really young you did it, you got that big. Yeah, when I was 19 I was like 330. How did you get that big at 19? I started smoking weed when I was like 17.

Just eating everything? Dude, it was, dude. We just fucked it, when you're, you have $10, right? Let's say you get together with four of your friends. We have $10 each. We come together with $40, $20 for a bag of weed

and $20 to feed us. It's not like we got a pizza. We went and got like bags of chips and fucking candy bars and like we just, we just, it was that summer, that first summer

I started smoking weed. I blew the fuck up, but it was the, dude, it was so great. It was so, I loved it so much, dude. I was straight edge. I was so great it was so i loved it so much dude i was straight edge i was like i was it was a point of pride that i had never done a drug and i was like no i'm not yeah i'm not into drugs it's not cool and then one day me and my friends just decided

that we were gonna go smoke weed me and my buddy dave green my buddy james meek and we're like we're just gonna do it let's just try it we're about to graduate high school let's get stoned and we were going to uh see snow core snow core 2000 it was system of a down incubus puya and mr bungle it was a big metal show and system of it was like my favorite band at the time and um we ended up just getting super stoned in my elementary school parking lot and then going to that concert that night and seeing like our favorite bands just high for the first time it was just the perfect like dude i laughed so fucking hard the first time i got high and i just fell in love with it i like it was just this thing i like, dude, I laughed so fucking hard the first time I got high. And I just fell in love with it.

It was just this thing. I connected with it. I just never stopped really smoking since then. There's been a couple times where I've taken breaks. But it was like fucking, I loved it. I really loved it. I think it hits everybody different. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.

It hits everybody's mind, everybody's body different. Some people, it's just not for them. And I get it. Yeah. But the fact that it's illegal just drives me crazy. It's so stupid. Didn't the Biden administration consider bringing it down to instead of a Schedule 1, they were talking about making it a Schedule 3? How many states is it legal in at this point?

Because I feel like it's legal almost everywhere I go. It's legal most states now. Yeah, like recreational. I think it's like more than 30.

Jersey and New York are both recreationally legal. How many states is it legal in now? I'm asking Jamie for multiple Googles at the same time. Welcome to being

a podcast producer. 23 states include also D.C., Guam, and the Northern Mariana Islands. Nice. That's recreational? That's recreational. So that's 26 total for recreational. And then medicinal, how many for that?

Because that shit's easy to get a card. In California, they just can't wait to give you a card. I got one in Jamaica because they now it's record I'm sorry for you at the 4040 why he's up to 40 so 40 states where marijuana is at least in some form legally Yeah, and then you may have it. Sorry. Sorry four more have CBD also with a little bit of THC Like Texas has like that point three percent thing you can do. Yeah That's most places have that. That's just another scam because that shit doesn't work. I got that in Italy last year and fucking just smoking.

It was like I was smoking CBD joints. Really? Yeah, I just did not. Didn't do the same thing. Interesting. But yeah, in Jamaica when I went, they made it. I've been to Jamaica like 10 times. I love Jamaica.

I'm trash. I'm a fucking trash bag. Jamaica's great. It's the best. I love it. I go every year. I really do. The water's so gorgeous. Oh, it's trash. I'm a fucking trash bag. Jamaica's great. It's the best. I love it. I go every year. I really do. The water's so gorgeous.

Oh, it's amazing. I do a family. We either bring my company, my podcast network. We have like 15 producers, so we rent a couple of villas on the beach, and we just fucking party the whole time. Or I do it with my family. I'll pick one or the other. And they just made it legal, I'd say maybe five years ago.

Before that, you had to go buy it on the beach. You just find a guy. And it was like, no, you could get weed very easily. But it was really shitty, like dirt weed. But it was Jamaica, so it was just fucking ruled. You were just, it didn't matter that it wasn't good quality weed. You just smoke a big fat joint of it on the beach and that was that. But they made it legal.

And first it was medicinally legal a few years ago. And they have a smoke shop that I went to. And they call a doctor. They just call some Jamaican dude. And you get on the phone with him. And it's like, hey, what's wrong with your mom? What did it be hurting? And I'm like, my head?

He's like, you need weed. And then they just fucking put him on the phone. So now I have a medicinal license in Jamaica. Anytime I go, I'm in the entire national. Amazing. Yeah, it rules. That's amazing. But now it's

Recreationally legal So you don't have to do that anymore How could it not be Recreationally legal in Jamaica But now the weed's great in Jamaica I'm sure Dude it's awesome The climate there is perfect

And now you can get mushrooms At the smoke shops We had mushroom chocolates It was fun Let's fucking go Jamaica Dude The best I love it

People make fun of me all the time for going to jamaica but i fucking love it amen anthony bourdain loved that spot yeah jamaica's the shit yeah i just um love the fact that you can still like when when they took travel away and they were limiting travel to people who were vaccinated in certain places you had to be vaccinated it was just like it's why i got the vaccine it made you realize like how much that's important to just be able to go somewhere how nice that is it's literally the only thing that i spend my money on i i take i take my son on a father-son trip every year we do a family trip we do a company trip i do a romantic vacation my girlfriend and i'm not rich by any means but i have this whatever dude i just have this weird fear that i'm gonna die when i'm young

and i think creating experiences with my family and my my son the most important thing he'll never lose he'll never lose those experiences i can get hit by a fucking bus tomorrow and you know yes i should save more money and i should be fucking more responsible with it but i feel like i didn't have any of those like dude i didn't i went to the jersey shore a couple times when i was a kid like i never went on vacation and i think like yeah dude i just want him to have those fucking memories that's that that's awesome that's a beautiful perspective man that's super healthy thanks awesome beautiful nobody's ever called me healthy they did ask that's healthy dude that is healthy well they did ask for it to be rescheduled it's the third part of the three-step process he asked

to have happen first step was the uh federal expungement you know they let people out even though there wasn't many in federal prison yeah well that was the crazy thing that we're gonna let out everybody who's in federal prison for pot nobody Everybody was like what the fuck you talking about And the second is the states are asked to do the same thing, but I'm not being for I mean If you're in federal prison for pot it's because you're selling pounds and pounds of marijuana right at one point You have to say are you can't do that right? It's not for possession. You're not on possession. Okay, for possession. Didn't he say for possession? He does say for possession. Yeah. What if you're possessing...

In federal... They'll get you for distribution. If you have 50 pounds of pot in your fucking warehouse, they're going to get you for distribution. You're not smoking 50 pounds of pot, bro. You know, it's like what do they allow you? They allow you like five grams. How many... Depends. It's up to two ounces in some places. Two ounces. You can fly with up to an ounce. What do they allow you they allow you like five grams? How many?

Two ounces I feel you could fly with up to an ounce Yeah, state to state as long as it's legal in the states you're flying to and from Wow and I use I've been flying with Weed for years before but with Ari Shaffir He I was like I was like, how do you fly with weed? He was like, oh, yeah, you just take a bag He was I was like telling you take it you put in a bag So you take that bag you put it in your suitcase and you fly I was like, how do you fly with weed? He was like, oh, yeah, you just take a bag. I was like, tell me. He's like, you take it, you put it in a bag. So you take that bag, you put it in your suitcase, and then you fly. I was like, oh, that's it?

He's like, yeah, you just fly with it. And then I was like, really? And then I read on a Reddit thread that they did an AMA with a TSA employee, and they were just talking about flying with weed. And they were like, oh, what do you do if you catch somebody with weed? They were like, we've been instructed specifically to just throw it away um they

they can't hold up the entire fucking airport every time they find like a little bit of weed right um so yeah i've been i used to just put it in a sock because the way it would show up on the 3d scanners is organic material so it would be the same color as your socks so i used to just put it in my sock but uh yeah now i just fucking put it right on my suitcase tsa pull it out they look at it they compliment the quality yeah that's hilarious yeah when where were we in nashville did nashville have the fucking truck or was it new orleans it was nashville right where we there's like weed trucks like you know you get a like a taco truck yeah there were weed all over were weed trucks. They're all over New York. Are they really? All over New York.

They drive around just park places. They ring the bell. They got busted once because as soon as they made it recreational legal, all these fucking Puerto Ricans were like,

we're going to have weed trucks. This wasn't part of the process of legalizing weed, but they were like, we're just going to do it. So they had like, one day the cops were just like, what are we doing

about these weed trucks? And they busted like 16 trucks in a day and they like i don't even think they arrested the guys they just literally confiscated everything and they held it as like evidence and like but i think all those guys made like a ton it was like a smash and grab they made a ton of money very quickly but if you could sell weed why can't you sell weed out of a truck you don't have a license they operate a truck? Not licensed. Right now in New York, I think there's like four or five legal weed dispensaries. But there's like 200 illegal weed dispensaries.

But because it's falling into this gray area, I think the cops just don't really, they just sort of turn a blind eye. And it's just sort of a waste of everyone's time. But yeah, I believe there's not that many, but every other corner, there's a place where you can buy weed. Interesting. Yeah, so they're probably not giving out those licenses. That's probably why.

They probably don't want people just pulling over in trucks. The weed bodegas have no fear it's illegal to sell without a license. It's not that this hasn't stopped 1,500 stores and counting. 1,500 stores. So here's what's gonna happen. What does that mean?

It stopped 1,500 stores? It has not. It has not stopped. So they're gonna just bust, one day, they're gonna just, whatever the, the law is just taking too long to move, right? So people are just selling it. They're just selling it.

But these stores are all just gonna be busted one day. They're gonna do a sweep and they're gonna confiscate everything. Yeah, but why? That's the thing. It's like, why are you making it hard to get a license? Well, it's expensive probably. Why are you making it so expensive to get a license?

Maybe you would have more money if you charged a reasonable amount and you actually went and got it from these people. Instead of these people operating. Then again, New York is like that. There's a lot of people that are going to operate under the wire. And even if it was $5 for a license, like, fuck you. Well, I buy it on the black market still because it's a lot cheaper. So if I buy dabs, like some sort of distillate, it's like $90 a gram at a dispensary. Whereas I get it for like $20 a gram from my dude.

Does your dude know who's growing it? No. This is where it gets weird. I had this guy on, John Norris, and he was a game warden in California. And they started finding these grow ops out in the forest land. It's supposed to be public land. And they'd find cartel grow ops out there with like toxic chemicals and shit And they're using crazy like pesticides and fertilizers and like it's a little stuff that like no one else uses

Yeah, he details it. He's got this book called hidden Wars. And so they became like a tactical unit They had dogs and everything because all of a sudden they're in like shootouts with cartel members in the forest Yeah, it's wild. It's a wild book. But the point is, like you said, 90% of all the illegal weed in the country, 90% of it is coming from these grow ups from the cartels. And he goes, and you could be getting shit with all kinds of like toxic stuff on it. All right, Joe. Thanks. Another fear. I appreciate that.

Well, it's like just unlocking fear after fear of me today. Gas station sushi. You might be might want that frozen burrito yeah I mean look most of the time now it always comes like packaged like this is from a dude you know I'm saying but it's like yeah but where's I do live and like how do you know it's from a dude you don't think that the cartel can make labels in English? Oh, no, no, of course. No, I'm saying he probably gets it from the cartel. But he packages it really nicely, so I think it's cool.

You see? White gummies. It is pretty wild if that number's correct. It's like 90% of the places where weed is illegal. They're getting it from there. Yeah. It's always like They they do it. They're doing a thing as well. We're like now I know in certain places like California

They can't they can't like package it in a way where like it looks like candy or they can't shape it in a certain way Right didn't have a thing with like Mike Tyson gummies Yeah He couldn't sell them in certain places because they were shaped like ears and you can't have them shaped as like Characters or things in certain jurisdictions because people would think it's candy yeah yeah yeah that's a fear of mine too it's like my kid just finds a fucking weed gummy one day and eats it like yeah what would you do i would have to literally bribe him to never tell his mother babysit him until he comes down for him and say what'd you

learn are you my kids like taking acid by accident sometimes you're like dude that would fucking destroy a kid dude we were looking at like old um uses of medicine and i had uh peter berg on from the um he's the guy who created that painkiller series on uh netflix and we were talking like, they used to give little kids heroin. Heroin was, like, medicine for, like, kids. They'd, like, rub it in babies' mouths. They'd rub morphine in their mouths. Yeah, cocaine, too.

Cocaine. They'd give people cocaine. Yeah. Gummy a baby with cocaine. Bro, they used to just give it to kids. Your kid won't shut the fuck up. Give it heroin. Yeah, dude.

And your kid's just laying there in bed. Do-do-do-do. Dum-dum-dum. Dum-dum-dum-dum. won't shut the fuck up give it heroin and your kids just lay in their bed i mean what the fuck they gave people heroin when they were babies that's wild yeah but like a child wouldn't understand what acid was like if they if they if they asked it accidentally took acid like a seven-year-old kid a six-year-old kid dude right they would think they went insane they I mean what it wouldn't it would be the scariest thing in the world for them It would affect them for the rest of the life. There's no coming back from that Well, they could come back from it, but it's not gonna be easy It's gonna I mean a massive disruption as you're growing up

You're a kid and you're you're you're learning about life and borderline like psychotic episode from your perspective You don't understand what a drug is that you there's no frame of reference like first of it I said I was scared But I knew that I was about to be on a fucking journey You know what I'm saying? That was the idea when you're a kid and it comes out of nowhere to you accidentally take it and then it's just you're just in this state Yeah, and then you know now you know that's possible

So you're always gonna have this anxiety that at one point then, you know, now you know that's possible. So you're always going to have this anxiety that at one point in time you might slip back into it. That was the thing that I had always heard about acid, too, that scared me when I was a kid. Flashbacks. Yeah, flashbacks. They would tell you, bro, it stays in your fat. Yeah. The acid stays in your fat, man.

And one day you're just fucking driving down the road and the road becomes teardrops. I'm like, what? Yeah, man, you have a flashback. People die that way. I was like, oh! It was always the thing. If you take acid, maybe you'll never come back. Yeah, I think I took so much acid one time.

The most acid I ever took when I was 19 years old, maybe 18. Me and my buddy Dan Doherty, got a medicine dropper this fucking hippie kid this fucking real big known hippie in my town he's like dude I got acid and when when hallucinogens came to town

in New York where I was at Rockland County, New York when hallucinogens came around in the early 2000s late 90s you got them because they only came around

once in a while there'd be like a fucking hippie festival upstate and like people bring strips of acid down or they would have mushrooms but it was so rare so we when you would hear about somebody having it you'd fucking drive we used to drive from rockland county which is right outside of new york city we survived to albany because there was a guy that would get it up there and we would fucking pick it up when he had and he had it like twice a year um but this

kid was like dude i have a you know liquid acid in a eyedropper we're like we're like oh no way dude let's do it he was like three dollars a hit have liquid acid in an eyedropper. We're like, oh, no way, dude. Let's do it. He was like, $3 a hit, which is super cheap. And then my buddy Dan, I remember he did like two drops. And I was like, oh, sweet, dude. He's like, all right, let me do another one. And then he went, no, I did two. And then he was like, I want to do another one. And then he went, and squirted it.

And I went, holy shit, dude. I was like, well, I can't let you do that by yourself. And I went, and squirted it. Oh, my god. We gave it back to the guy. And he looked how much was left in it. He was like, dude, I can't let you do that by yourself. And I went, and squirted it. We gave it back to the guy, and he looked how much was left in it. He was like, dude, don't pay me. He was like, you didn't get this from me. And then he just walked away from us.

And then within 10 minutes, dude, you know how it takes like 45 minutes to come on? 10 minutes, I'm talking about on another planet, dude. Another fucking planet. Within five minutes of that, I lose Dan. Dan's running down the street like a lunatic. When you say another planet, what are you experiencing? Just extreme.

I don't even remember most of the trip, but I remember I saw a friend and they got in their car and the lights from the car, it was like I was on a spaceship, dude. It was just like the music. And I mean, it was just like the hardest I've ever tripped by far. And it's everything, like the visuals, the sounds, the feeling,

but such intense, such an intense trip, like scary, it started becoming really scary, started going down the road where, you know, everything is everything. Like I sort of, that was my conclusion was like that life is death and death is life and you know sound is the same thing as a fucking table just being a fucking lunatic and um i remember like starting to think it kept on coming into my head to kill myself because i wanted as

an experience that i can only experience once it was like just really scary fucking thoughts and i tripped for two full days 48 hours straight didn't sleep just kept on tripping then I finally fell asleep And then the next morning I woke up and it was like I had taken a hit of acid the next morning But it was normal enough that I was like so really for like three days I tripped and when you were tripping what did the world look like? There was just Like the world. I mean,

it's a great question. It's a really great question. Trying to remember what my perspective was on how the world looked. I remember being at a Dunkin Donuts and just sitting there at the table and just fucking thinking about numbers a lot and just fucking numbers. Yeah. And everything was just fucking brighter. It wasn't,

dude, it wasn't pleasurable at all. It wasn't like, are you thinking about numbers? Um, I don't know. I don't know. Why were you thinking about numbers? I don't know. I don't know. I was just, the numbers were just like coming into my head and I was just repeating like fake math equations that weren't real.

How do you know they weren't real? Maybe they were real. I know where you're going. What if you wrote those bitches down? What if you wrote those bitches down and someone like Eric Weinstein would look at them and go, what are you doing here? Where did you learn this? Oh my God, this is the solution.

And they run over to one of those fucking Goodwill hunting chalkboards. I figured it all out. Imagine if that's what ideas are when you're tripping. What if you're catching an alien life form and it comes in the form of an idea? I've thought about this a lot. in the, it comes in the form of an idea. I've thought about this a lot. I know it's a stupid premise, but everything that people have made ever has come from ideas.

And everything that people are making, including artificial intelligence, including robots, all that shit, spaceships, came from ideas. Then all of a sudden it's a thing, you know? And people love to do that. and people love to do that they fucking love to do that it just i just feels like where this is going it's so clear that we're making robots that are going to take over right like how clear is it when you see chat gpt when

you see it answer questions and shit well chat g chat GPT now has the IQ of 155, you know, but a chat GPT five is going to have an IQ of a thousand or what is chat GPT fives IQ. It's going to be something ridiculous. Yeah. Well now it's going to start manipulating. Oh,

it's all funsies. I, I, I would like to think that that is just like a crazy conspiracy theory, but people who really know that like really are in the know, like, no, no, no, this is going to happen. It's on its way, kids. You're going to have a robot overlord. Yeah.

Why would we have a human president? Look at the last human president we had. He's getting tripped by ghosts. We need a robot overlord. What if the election runs chaos right chaos there's the fucking the biden camp claims that they won the trump clamp camp claims that they won and there's fucking holdouts in the senate and there's fucking chaos in the streets and rocks are flying and at the same time artificial intelligence reaches a solution that instead of human beings

with their fragile emotions and egos why don't we govern with logic and intelligence based on all the known facts yeah in a bit in a way that's beneficial to everyone both robots and people let us run things stop all the wars we can stop all nuclear bombs from ever being deployed. Yeah. We also can go and disarm all these countries. Or we can arm every nuke right now and fucking point it at all the humans. Yeah. That's the big fear, right, is that they'd fucking... No.

The big fear is it would be really simple to kill off the human race. All they would have to do ethically is stop us from having babies yeah that's it so poison the food supply give them microplastics so the dicks shrink and they're the females have more miscarriages and then slowly get them to this weakened state where they don't have any hormones where there are no men there are no women there's just a lot of they them a whole society of people that don't that's another you hear like women like they flex about not like having kids that's a big thing that happens on like tiktok and the internet if the robots did that we would just never have kids and that would be it yeah we would die off we would die off in a

couple hundred years it would be it wouldn't take long at all no not even a couple hundred years like a hundred years well there would be people that were still alive that probably had kids and those kids had a diet It wouldn't be as simple as everybody who's alive It would be you like if they're gonna do that what they're gonna do is they're gonna make all the kids sterile They're gonna give you enough of these micro if I'm just say if I'm plotting from artificial intelligence, right? I'm gonna use give you enough of these microplots. If I'm just saying, if I'm plotting, if I'm artificial intelligence. Right. I'm going to use all these contaminants. I'm going to make them readily available and cheaper than natural uses, like things like pesticides and herbicides and shit like that.

These fucking things that get into the water and ruin everything. Make sure that these people figure that out. Make sure that that's cheaper. So if it's cheaper, they're going to use that. And so that'll fuck them up. And then make sure they start using plastic for things. That'll fuck them up. And then slowly but surely, as it becomes alive and sentient, you deal with this just demoralized version of the human species. Just demoralized version of the human species. This weakened state

sedentary Staring at screens all day version of the human species, which is way easier to just take over In a wave and then those people never have kids No one else has kids and within 150 years or so no more people. That's it. That's it. We're dead And then the robots are here no more people. That's it. That's it. We're dead. And then the robots are here. No more people. And it's probably a better society. If population collapse, it doesn't scare people because everybody's worried about population increase. Everyone's worried about overpopulation, which they should be.

If you go to a place that's overpopulated, it looks like it sucks. Yeah. But population collapse is real too. It can happen. It's kind of happening in Japan, I believe. I think it's happening in different parts japan i believe i think it's it's happening in different parts of the world where they're really concerned because uh young people aren't having kids in a in a way that could like replicate society yeah right now with older people

yeah it's it's a you hear a lot more young people talking about not wanting to have kids and it's the fucking greatest thing ever it's the best thing you'll ever experience in the fucking world um so i just i mean i'm not even hating on somebody who doesn't have kids i get like you know but to not have kids and to be like be like yeah i'm proud i have my freedom like dude your freedom is it just doesn't compare to watching my kid win a jujitsu tournament does not compare to the freedom to go to the movies by myself or get drunk on a wednesday night period it's just there's nothing comparison so yeah but it's one of those things that unless you experience it just always sounds like you're preaching to people yeah it's weird I mean I remember when um

friends of mine when I was younger would uh think about having kids and everybody's like wow if you think one day you're gonna have kids, and then you think like, oh, then your life is kinda like, now you're like saddled down and it's boring. And you're just, oh, you're just a guy with kids. What people don't understand is like, when people go home to their kids, a lot of times it's because they prefer

being with their kids. Because it's actually fun. It's awesome. It's fucking really fun, dude. They look up to you. Yeah, well, it's like they're actually fun. It's awesome. It's fucking really fun dude. They look up to you Yeah, it's like it's like it's they're cool, too. And if you raise them cool and you're cool, they're nice people Yes, it's nice to be around nice people that you love dearly Yeah, yeah, and the idea of like it, you know, cuz I was probably one of those people back

Oh, yeah, you have a kid life becomes boring, you know, it's just a different Oh, I thought that when I was life becomes different, you know, it's in a very different way before you have kids it's not like oh my god like just go do it not a 20 year old kid shouldn't be in heaven kid go experience life a little bit you know right um but i i think that you know i think we're about 30 i think 30 is a good age to have a kid um you're more in line when you have children you're more concerned about the future that's for sure oh for sure for sure you're more like there's a lot of like people that like anarchist mindset like fuck it all man burn it to the ground fuck this country once you have kids like oh you gotta protect kids like yeah slow down it's one of us it's not of a fucking war hey settle down

is there a way to peacefully solve this yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I fucking um Yeah, that was it. That was like the biggest thing for me. It was like it just changed life in a way where Um, it just became very different you care about something more than you realize you have the capacity to care for You know, that's the thing that really like and then that's scary, right? So all the shit that we're talking about being afraid of I wasn't afraid of really any of these things like i wasn't really a matt like you know i was always a little bit of a hypochondriac but like now i have like a fear like dude if i get fucking cancer i'm gonna like leave my kid you keep saying that don't put that in your head i know i'll knock on some wood chapelle said almost exactly the same thing he said it it didn't just change the amount of love

in his life he said it changed his capacity for love yeah kids i thought that was beautiful yeah beautiful way to describe it it is. Beautiful way to describe it. It is a great way to describe it. And yeah, it's just like, you know, uh, you,

you, you have this fear that everything bad could happen to him. You want like, dude, I don't want him to get bullied. I don't want to, I don't want him to have a bad day at school, you know?

Right. And that's, and then you have this anxiety that you walk around with. So that's the, the thing that's, that's the hardest part about being a parent right there. That's it. When you talk about what's hard,

all the other shit is kind of easy. It's just that fucking anxiety that the world's not going to be perfect for him. Yeah, that it's going to be dangerous for him. You don't want it to be perfect, right? You want mistakes. No, you're right. That's how a person learns. But you want a safe world.

You want to be challenged because that makes him a stronger person. You want real-life challenges to be. And by the way, he won the gold medal, that makes him a stronger person. You want real life challenges to be. And by the way, he won the gold medal, which was such a great experience. But he also lost the no gi, his last match. So he only got silver and no gi. And it was a great experience, too. Him losing was such a great experience because he saw it wasn't the fucking end of the world. It's just who cares, right?

He saw a high and a low. And I thought that experience was almost as valuable But yeah, yeah, it's just a fucking real like you got to be prepared for that I think yeah, you win or you learn and that's an important lesson for kids. Hmm. It's good to lose really is It's good to bomb on stage to get you your fucking shit together every time I ever bombed I always had like a way better set afterwards. I improved. I had a leap in improvement where I just tightened up all the shit that I was like,

maybe I wasn't paying attention enough, maybe I wasn't going over my notes enough, maybe I wasn't writing enough. Whatever the fuck I wasn't doing, don't do that anymore. Figure it out, stupid. Yeah, you need those losses. You need to, it just sort of shapes who you are.

But I'll tell you right now, I really wanted him to win because, obviously you want to see your kid win, but it's like we put in so much work up to it, like leading up to it, and if the lesson was that the work didn't pay off, it's just now it's another uphill battle. I feel like him winning, it's setting him up to want to be a winner now. He now he's like oh shit i want that feeling right there right it felt way better to win than it felt to lose and i i feel like you know he i'm glad that the kids that he went up against they were at a similar level because if they put him against some fucking wrestling stud like they did in nogi he would have gotten fucking his ass kicked yeah that's a problem yeah dude wrestling

studs yeah that's always gonna be a problem those guys are fucking freaks yeah little kids that just fucking yeah little kids jacked already throwing bodies around since they were tiny yeah there's no catching up it's not happening yeah it's real hard to catch yeah he's 10 now it's like yeah james good luck the only guy who i know ever caught up in MMA was George St. Pierre. George St. Pierre didn't have a background in wrestling at all. He was a Kyokushin karate guy. Freak athlete.

Yeah, he started doing gymnastics and shit at the end to condition his body. And that's like, I mean, he was literally the best. He was so smart doing that. His approach to training was so smart, so interesting that he did that. But it makes sense. If you watch those fucking gymnasts, who looks more jacked

than those guys? Especially those dudes on the rings. Like, what the fuck, man? Yeah. That's like literally the perfect physique. Yeah, I can't, dude.

I can't do any of that shit. That's a lot. The rings is a lot. Like, iron crosses and shit. What the fuck, man? Yeah. That's a crazy amount of physical upper body strength if you could do shit like that it would make for sure make uh wrestling and jujitsu

better for sure i just want to do one muscle up one day just one can you do that you do muscle ups yeah son of a bitch yeah you just swing your leg forward you got to know how to do it right too yeah you get to the top and you swing your leg forward and then as your leg comes up, you press up. Yeah. Down. Oh, that's it? All right.

Yeah. You don't try to do it from a dead hang, although some people can. Like Hector Lombard can do it from a fucking dead hang. Yeah. He's just a freaking athlete and he just does like that. Fucking. Yeah. Who the fucking.

I'm Hector Lombard, motherfucker. I need to fucking I I'm getting back in shape now and I just fucking yeah I mean I really I just want to be able to do shit like that but I'm so I'm doing a lot of boxing right now I'm boxing another comedian um a couple months from now and um so I'm not lifting any weights at all so I'm just doing like tons and tons of cardio so i just i fucking look like a fucking soft piece of shit right now you should do some physical exercise just to protect your joints especially you're doing a lot of boxing i i always recommend like some shoulder mobility exercises just like even if you're only doing it once or twice a week that can make a big difference in like maintaining muscle. Mm-hmm, you know

You always you're better off having some strength in your joints, you know, especially when you're throwing punches. Yeah It's like you want to kind of keep everything Strong, you know, like if you have weak joints, it could be very dangerous many guys have fucked their shoulders up boxing Yeah, miss a punch catch a punch on an elbow blow something out you know it happens all the time yeah no i know i'm too old to be doing this shit but i can't motivate to get in shape unless i'm fighting one of my friends that's hilarious that's hilarious yeah i i really i really whatever i need some sort of like peripheral goal you know where the being in shape is like almost a side benefit of it because just being in shape, you know, I'm in a relationship, I'm older, I'm a dad.

It's just, it's not enough of a motivation, you know? Well, that's where jujitsu comes in, right? Yeah. Because it's fun and you're getting in shape while you're doing something that's fun. And it's interesting. Like you're, you're learning new things. Like, oh, if you put your foot there, boom, the guy just goes over. Wow.

And then you try it in live training and it happens. Like, wow, now I have a new technique in my arsenal. This is incredible. And then you drill it with your friends. You practice on each other. I mean, that is so huge about that sport because it's so multifaceted. And literally the more you know know the better you are at it It's like not that much dependent on physical strength. Yeah, physical strength is only one aspect of it

There's people that are way weaker than me that are way better than me. Well, there's also like it's it's so customizable for body type your mentality like it just there's just You know, there's certain things that my body type it just doesn't work for right and you adapt You know to whatever it is and you can get really good even if you're not a super athletic dude you just see it there's like a like a real fucking skinny dweeby guy and he's a fucking brown belt and he's like oh no this guy will choke the fuck out of anybody in here yeah um it's like 140 pound guys will just kill you oh my god oh we'll fucking just destroy you it's so demoralizing oh my god yeah but that's the reality of this sport yeah it's and i think it's beautiful because it's the only

martial art that uh does as advertised because martial arts the whole idea is like if you're bruce lee like when i was a kid bruce lee was the fucking man i remember i saw a bruce lee movie and i was a little kid i was over at my friend's house and it was on television i couldn't believe it like look at this guy yeah like i wanted to get was on television i couldn't believe it like look at this guy yeah like i wanted to get noon chucks i want to do it but the reality of like a bunch of people rushing you like now this one comes at you now that guy goes no in the real world people just pile on top of you and no one can really if they're a smaller person you're probably in a lot of trouble if someone's bigger and stronger than you in like a wild fist to cuffs situation.

But in jujitsu, the smaller person really can defeat the larger unskilled person all the time. Every time. Every time. Every time. That's not the case. We said it before. If it's a freak athlete You're a big professional football player, right, right?

I mean you got to be you this guy this little guy better be real good, right? Oh good, but yeah, but like you know like every time you know I was reading some book and it was just like they were talking about like if you get to your blue belt You can literally with your hands murder like 90 of the people you encounter in life yeah it makes sense like somewhere around there yeah like just and that's like you know not that you want to murder people but i'm saying like you like defend to the death dude and when you talk about martial arts like like jujitsu is like you can choke somebody to death you can break their fucking limbs like it is pretty hardcore

when you really to its fullest like when it's not respectful and you're tapping. And if it's used for what it was initially used for, I mean, it's a really brutal martial art. And here's what's important. You use it exactly the same way in training as you do on the street. So the problem with striking martial arts were if you were sparring, particularly if you were sparring with your friends, you always pulled back. Like you never tried to knock your friends out. You always like at least something pulled back. In jiu-jitsu, you go full blast.

So you're going full blast together. And you're constantly used to someone going full blast. So if you're on the street and all of a sudden there's some fucking altercation and you're clinching with a guy, it's automatic. Instinctual, that's it. Automatic. And you're going against usually a guy that is either your level or better than you, which is like it's just the way it's like designed.

You're just really designed. Iron sharpens iron and you're going with guys. It's built to, it's like comedy. It really is because you can't fake it. You can't fake it. You have to have the stage time. You have to can't fake it you have to have the stage time you have to have the reps you have to have the mat time and that's the big parallel

between those two and I think that's why a lot of comedians do jujitsu and they can get into that mentality is that right there it's also great it kills anxiety yeah

kills anxiety yeah if you get good at jujitsu like first of all your physical worry about taking care of yourself diminishes somewhat yeah

because you're you're like oh I'm like more confident with people than I ever thought I was before because I'm not really worried about people beat me up. Yeah. Right. And then on top of that, you're training a lot so that you're always like just fucking squeezing those demons out. Yeah. for a lot of people, it's like, that's what's holding them, but their body is like this overflowing battery of anxiety and energy that's not being met

and fucking needs that aren't being fed and shitty food, and they're just like, and if you could get those fucking people to get out of that and start training,

something healthy, you know, and in jujitsu, the beautiful thing about it is it's fun to do, so you look forward to doing it. You look forward to working out. It's all interconnected,

and working out is very similar to it. I think jiu-jitsu is easier for me to get motivated with. But it really is you spend your time, you know, thinking. We're talking so much about, like, being on our phones, right? It's like when you're working out, you have to ignore your phone. There's no fucking looking at your cell phone when you're training, right? Right. And you have just a little bit of time each day

where you're thinking about yourself, whether it's even just being in the moment and doing jiu-jitsu and trying to get better, but you're just genuinely trying to better yourself. Yeah. All bullshit aside, you're there to better yourself physically, mentally. That is a really healthy thing that people should be doing,

you know, in some capacity every day. They should be putting the bullshit away and just either, it's almost like meditative, like your mind sometimes goes blank and you're like I'm like Oh, I'm finally not thinking about like my stresses for like one minute I would imagine like dirt bag riding is like that. Yeah, you know running is like that for me. Yeah, I'm certain degree Yeah, running just got much for my knees man. I've just had too many knee injuries So I'm running now and I have the meniscus tears, but my doctor my doctor Oh, you know really not I put on knee braces the running is fine. I don't run I fucking jog man

You land on the balls of your feet. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah I I Take a little adjusting to right when you when you had like running shoes back in the day I always ran on the heels. I thought that's what they were for I thought that's why I said that they I thought that's why they changed the human gait. When I started running, I just, it was when I started working out, I started running every day. Initially, the first time I started working out, I just started doing push-ups every day and then running, right? And I was like, I can do this.

Let me start working out. And then I, you know, started cutting carbs. And then I lost weight very quickly. It was the first time my body was ever, like, adjusting to working out and going on a diet. So it was extreme. Like I lost a lot of weight very, very quickly. I got very motivated. I got a job in a gym.

I was selling, you know, high engine memberships for a few years. Um, and, uh, but I, when I started running, I was wearing like, I want to say like air walks or some like shitty skateboarding shoe. And I, my first few months I just ran and my feet were just in extreme pain like that like oh my god dude it was it was wild how bad my feet are and i was just like oh yeah dude oh you're getting plantar fasciitis i think that's what was going on yeah yeah and then i just got running shoes and i was like oh okay no that's that's not it at all so and then i started looking up running form i went to like one of those stores where they they told you to how to

run and so i think i have pretty decent running form. I run like three miles a day. Do you run on the street or do you run on a trail? I run on the street. I run on the street in Jersey. I ran in Austin twice. That seems like a lot of impact on your knees. And I'm heavy too, I'm like 205 now.

Yeah, hmm. I don't know, it's probably not the best for my knees, but it's literally the only thing that really helps me like that's why those like Thick ass running cushy shoes make sense. Yeah, let's run on streets. That makes sense there You wouldn't want to be barefoot running on the street. It's like running outside. Do you sort of get it? I can run on a treadmill. It's just a little bit more. I'm watching the clock Which I'm just staring at that clock which I think is not good

I like to turn on some music, just sort of get in my head, think about what's ever going on in my life, and just try to work out some shit and just fucking go. I do most of my cardio lately. I've been doing on this. You know what an echo bike is, like an aerosol bike? It's one of those things you go. Oh, yeah. You know that thing?

They create too much wind I get cold because I sweat a lot So I'm like fuck it I feel like just this Draft on me the whole time That I hate Rogue actually Invented a thing

That fits over the fan Oh really yeah So that it doesn't blow Blow out So annoying It just blows forward Yeah Yeah so it's good

But I just watch fights Watch fights and do Tabata sprints So it's 20 second sprint 10 second rest 20 second sprint 10 secondsecond rest 20-second sprint 10-second That's not a m. That thing's the shit that things hell. Yeah, that's hard to use it It's like one of those what is that thing like the fucking yeah? It's like a it's like a rowing machine, but it's standing up. Yes, and yeah, I think Jacob's ladder thing where it's like a ladder that you climb up that thing's hard as hell to use those are really good those are

really good yeah because it works your core the whole time you're doing bear crawls uphill yeah fuck that use it or lose it bro use it or lose it i know i wish i had that motivation well for me it's a mental health thing as much as it is anything i i don't feel good i know me i don't feel good if i don't work out do you need to go deep when you work out like do you need to go like because i see you post videos or you know pictures of you like just covered in fucking sweat i sweat like that if i just walk around a little bit but like do you need to go that like hard in order to sort of get the mental side out of it seems to bring yourself to a certain place because i like a nice easy workout yeah i don't do many of those those nice easy ones i do long ones because uh um when

i do kettlebells uh generally i subscribe to the idea that more reps over a longer period of time is better than less reps over a shorter period of time if you're just trying to get strength and not muscle endurance. So I follow this guy, Pavel Tatsalin, who's like the godfather of kettlebells in America. He brought kettlebells over. He started teaching people kettlebells in America. And what he says is like, you don't go to failure. Say if you have a weight that you can clean and press and you can do it 10 times. Don't do it 10 times. Do it five and put it down. Put it down for five minutes, then do it five again. Now you have five clean reps. They're perfect clean. So you did 10 reps, but you did them all like you're learning something.

And he said, strength is a skill and you don't want to do a skill when you're tired. And when you're learning how to control large, heavy weights, you shouldn't get it to the point where your muscles are failing. And so he's like, his philosophy, and this is a Russian sport philosophy, and they had some fucking geniuses over there training their athletes. They figured out that if you just get the same reps, like say instead of doing two sets of ten, you're better off doing four sets of five. Because every rep will be perfect.

And just the form. The full range of motion probably is a big part of it. And you're not going to get a sore. And your body is not going to get this lactic acid buildup. You're not going to break form. Like when you're really – you're fucking – your muscles are broken down. Like you're not going to break form you know like when you're really you're fucking your muscles are broken down like you're breaking form like you're cheating a little of course you're doing curls you're leaning back you know his idea is do the same amount of reps

but have longer breaks in between the sets and do it over a longer period of time and every rep is perfect yeah i yeah that's probably right i mean i when i typically when i work out i try to superset everything i try because i try to i try to get cardio in at the same time right so i'll go in i'll warm up do a little bit of cardio but then i'm just trying to bang bang bang bang bang fucking drop sets go to failure go to failure again just sweating like i hear you but that's just like the way that I learned. That's an old school way. And also, I kind of like lifting old school. When I'm lifting weights, I like going to the gym

and doing just the normal shit, right? It's a bench press, curls, squats, just the basics and just throwing a decent amount of weight on. I'm not that strong. I lifted with Burt Kreischer. Burt is fucking strong. He's a house. Holy shit, dude We lifted at some you know

College football fucking thing that he brought me to with a bunch of famous people and football players I have no idea who was there what I was doing there and Bert Kreischer is a fucking tank, dude Hmm. Yeah, I'm trying to remember how much you lifted. What exercise were you guys doing? We were benching. Yeah, he was doing, he did, I think, two plates on each side, but he did like, I want to say 15 reps. Really? Like it was nothing. It was fucking crazy. We had a sober October here once, and we all got hammered, and we went out to lift weights, and none of them could even do 225.

Oh, really? So the fact that he goes from 225 then to being able to do it 15 times now. Oh, yeah, at least 10. At least 10. Just 10 times. 10 times. With ease. 10 times. 10 times. With ease. That's impressive.

Yeah. I was like, he was fucking, he was hitting baseballs and was just fucking cracking them, dude. Yeah, if he wasn't an alcoholic, he would be a fucking serious athlete. That's probably what's kept him

so healthy this whole time while he's boozing up a storm. 225, 10 times. Yeah, dude. There it is. That was wild. Yeah, this is it. One. That's crazy because he couldn't do it up a storm. 225 ten times. Yeah, dude. Here it is. That was wild. Yeah, this is it. One.

That's crazy because he couldn't do it at all before. Three, four, five. Yeah, good form all the way down. Six, seven, eight, nine, ten. He could have done two more with a spot. He could have got 11. I think he could have done 11. with a spot he could have got 11 I think he could have done 11

yeah look at that beautiful yeah he's awesome dude he's also off the sauce he's off the sauce

he's been smoking the weed he's not drinking now no really yeah good for him I know he's on a diet right now

allegedly for another week who knows I'm hoping for him though he called me and said it was two months. That's awesome. And he said he's loving it.

And it's great for his comedy. He's coming up with new bits. Great guy. Great guy. He brought me on his tour, Fully Loaded. He's a fucking sweetheart. And it was just such a cool experience. You know me.

I'm a fucking, I'm a dirty scumbag. Nobody puts me on big shows in front of 15,000 people. That was fucking really cool. What a cool experience. Yeah, Bert's the man. He's a really good. What a cool experience. Yeah, Bert's the man. He's a really good guy. He is a good guy. He's the best.

He's a sweetheart. I mean, that's why he's doing so well. It's because he's easy to love. Yeah. That's it. Genuinely fun guy. Yeah. And that's really him.

That's him when the cameras are on. That's him when the cameras are off, when we're hanging out, his shirt's off. He's fucking drunk. He's got a red plastic cup filled with some questionable liquid in there. Yeah. He's fucking drunk. He's got a red plastic cup filled with some questionable liquid in there. Yeah. He's the man.

So, anyway. Should we end it? That's good. It's a good fucking podcast. That was awesome. It's a good way to cap it off. That was a lot of fun, brother. I had a fucking blast, dude.

Thank you. Tell everybody where they could digest Legion of Skanks, where your website is. So, I have a new special that actually comes out, or it's going to be out when this comes out this is it's already out on my youtube channel youtube.com slash lewis jay gomez comedy 30 minutes with lewis jay gomez it's uh my company gas digital which is our podcast network where you can find legion of skanks we produce six uh specials it was me dave smith kurt metzger colin turrell jordan jensen and the great legendary rich voss so they're all coming out weekly on everyone's YouTube channels. Beautiful.

So, yeah, go watch that if you think I'm funny. Beautiful. I'm glad you did that, man. That's fucking fantastic. And I love the fact that you've created your own thing. You know, that you have your own website, your own little network. You got everything going on yourself. You're independent.

It's beautiful. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. And, yeah, I mean, we have a great festival, Skank Fest, coming up. It's the best festival in all of comedy I appreciate that and it really means a lot coming from you

it is it's crazy every time I see it I'm just like Jesus Christ these guys are out of their fucking minds it's a wild time

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