The Joe Rogan Experience - #2035 - Brian Simpson

Episode Date: September 14, 2023

Brian Simpson is a stand-up comic who hosts the "Bottom of the Barrel" improvised comedy show at the Comedy Mothership and his own podcast, "BS with Brian Simpson." ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night! All day! Salute. Salute. Hey. We were just talking about how much fun last night was.
Starting point is 00:00:21 What a goddamn lineup. Yeah, what a lineup, man. What a lineup. Ari, Dan Solder, Derek Poston. Ron White. fun last night was what a goddamn line yeah what a lineup man what a lineup ari dan soldier derrick poston ron white ron white you tony hinchcliffe yeah wild lineup wild yeah what a fucking it's a great place man we were talking about this last night the weird thing about that place is even though like we talked about it for so long when we were at the Vulcan. Like, it was almost like one day it's all going to happen.
Starting point is 00:00:49 And kind of we hoped it happened. We were hoping it was going to happen. But you never know until something actually happens. Oh, yeah, yeah. Especially out here. But now that it actually happened and it's been open for, like, what have you been open for, like, six months now or something? Yeah, since April.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Now it seems like it's always been there. for like six months now or something? Yeah, since April. Now it seems like it's always been there. Like the Overlook Hotel or some shit. I mean, because that building has a lot of, I bet you a lot of
Starting point is 00:01:13 dope shit's happened in that building. What, 100%? You know? Like just magical moments, like when Oliver, Oliver Anthony?
Starting point is 00:01:24 Yeah, Oliver Anthony stopped in. The crowd that day was not ready for that. Yeah. Man, it was incredible. No one, like, because I think people now might know that they can be surprised at the mothership, but this is the first time it hasn't been a comic. Right, right, right. You know?
Starting point is 00:01:39 He got brought up by Segura. Yeah. You know, and I don't know what they were expecting, but man. I wish I was there for that one. He had done the podcast that day, but I had too much shit I had to do. I had to take off. No, it was incredible. His story's nuts.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yeah, and he's a genuine dude. I mean, I still don't know a lot about him, you know? Yeah. Like, you know, but he seems to just really care about people. He definitely does. Yeah, yeah. he's a real good guy and you know now the question is i mean i think he's gonna hold on to it but that's the question can he hold on to i i believe he will i think he'd be fine yeah he's he's like fascinating
Starting point is 00:02:17 story because he gave his life to god like 30 days ago and then two weeks later he has the number one song in the world like that that he recorded off of a phone one of his songs the audio that's up online I mean it's like very highly rated song was number one at one point time it's the audio off of a video from his Android phone so he uploads it to YouTube and then he cuts the wave file from the youtube video and uploaded that as a song wow no mixing no studio this little bitch-ass microphone that you have at the bottom of your phone and it sounds it sounds odd what is which one song is that jamie ain't got a dollar i think i but when dollar. I think. I'm pretty sure. But when you listen. Can we play it? When you listen to it, it kind of adds to it. It adds to it that it's not produced. It adds to it that it's not.
Starting point is 00:03:14 It doesn't sound perfect. Yeah. I mean, it's just a dude singing a song. Well, I ain't got a dollar I don't need a dime. I got a little spot in the country where I spend all of my time. When the sun goes down on this itty-bitty town, we can light up the boat and pass it around. I ain't got a dollar, but I don't need a dime. See, that's soul right there.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Yeah, you can't fake that. You know what, man? It sounds like he, it feels like that in person. He sounds just like that in person. No, no, like he just he sounds just like that in person no no like he just his live show was incredible especially when he got to the hip to the hip you know yeah everybody lost everyone knew the words everyone lost a mind yeah it was great bro that video on just on my Instagram at one
Starting point is 00:04:41 point I don't know what it is now but it was like 11 million views yeah he's he's likeable for now people love him yeah you know my theory about it is I think you just got to be yourself and take what comes with that instead of trying to please everybody. Yeah. Because that's what destroys you, trying to be fake so you can get stuff. He and I had a phone conversation, like, right when everything was taking off. We communicated on Instagram. He sent me his number.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I called him up, and he was freaking out. And I was like, listen, man, you're going to be fine, but you're on a wild ride yeah you're on a wild ride i'm like don't sign nothing don't sign nothing i go don't take any money because it's just a loan it's not real money like when they offer you money for stuff like a record deal or something it's basically a loan i go listen you you and everybody's like everyone's telling me i gotta strike while the iron's hot i go listen you've got talent you don't have to hot. I go, listen, you've got talent. You don't have to do shit. Just hang in there, dude.
Starting point is 00:05:49 You got talent. And you got leverage. Yeah, he's the real deal. It's like there's certain people, you see them and you go, oh, you don't have to do shit. You're fine. Now the world knows. Now the world knows. That guy has fans now, like that.
Starting point is 00:06:03 So he goes from 30 days ago selling industrial equipment, a pothead, smoking way too much pot, smoking pot all day. He said he wasn't getting anything done. He knew that he was procrastinating and wasting his life away. And he just broke down, gave himself to God, started reading scripture every day. Instead of getting high? Instead of getting high.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Damn. Two weeks later, number one song in the world world i wonder what he would have got if he gave his life to satan he would be that dude with the fucking what's that guy's name sam what's his name with the fucking red skirt on on the the grammys dancing around like the devil what's his name sam smith that guy oh. Oh, you mean Lil Nas X? No, no, no, no, no. Lil Nas X did it earlier. Oh, yeah. Everyone's doing it now. Bro, the Lil Nas X one was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Because everybody freaked out. They couldn't believe it. This is the guy from... Because he was giving the devil a lap dance? Yeah, that guy. Sam Smith. Oh, Sam Smith. Okay, is this recent?
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah, it was the Grammys. Man, I don't be keeping up with shit. Good for you. Don't keep up. Yeah, because I'm like... When it comes to the award shows and shit, I'm like, I'll hear about the stuff that I need to see. Yeah, you hear about stuff. You know, we were playing Johnny Thunder last night, I'm Alive. And, like, that's another cool thing about having friends that have great taste.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Like, you came up to me, and you're like, you got to hear this song. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I was like, okay. I mean, hit me with it. And I was like, oh, my God, what is this? Remember we were trying to figure out, like, what year it was made? Yeah, yeah, it's old school. You know, because that's what I do.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Every now and then I'll take a song or I can take a playlist and I go make a radio station out of this playlist. You know, and then I'll hear new shit that I haven't heard. Yeah. So that just popped up on me when I was listening to Jimi Hendrix. God damn, that's a good song. It's so good and it just made me sad knowing that the dude's dead. Because I was like, I bet he got fucked.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And I didn't like any of his other songs. That made me sad. You know? I was real disappointed. I only listened to one of the other songs. I wasn't into it either. Because that's the thing. That's how I know Oliver Anthony is fine.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Because, you know, you heard the hit go viral. But then you're like, does he have any other good shit? Right. All his other shit's good. Yeah. No, it's all good. And he writes it all himself, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 You mean that WAV file we just listened to off of a phone? I think he has a Samsung Galaxy S20. Keep your publishing, man. I mean, that's amazing. It's just a three-year-old phone. And the microphone off the phone records the audio, and then when you listen to that audio, it sounds fucking great. You know what else, too?
Starting point is 00:08:49 Whenever I see a real good live musician, I'm always like, fuck these guys. This is way better than comedy. You know what I mean? We can't do with that. What he did, you can't do that with a joke. They do a different thing. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:09:02 It's a whole different thing. It's a different thing, and it gets in your soul. Music, yeah, it makes you feel something. It's like a drug. Yeah, and it's like people, so, oh, I guarantee you're not aware of this, but this is a little microcosm of what society is. Beyonce is on tour right now, right? And she has a song where, like, in the middle of the song, she goes, everybody on mute,
Starting point is 00:09:26 and then you got to be quiet for four or five seconds until the beat drops again. And so it's like a challenge. So every city she goes to, she gets to that part of the song, and the whole arena has to be quiet for four or five seconds. And people are fucking it up left and right. Like, thousands of people are on board, and there's always two or three motherfuckers that scream, ah, it's about to be out. And everyone's like, you know, it's like those people.
Starting point is 00:09:52 They ruin the moment. Yeah, those people should be arrested. Because they're like, those are people that are always fucking stuff up for everybody. Yeah. It's like, all you got to do is be quiet. I think Atlanta got it right. LA fucked it up big time. Of course they did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If anybody's going to fuck it up, it's going to be LA. I think Atlanta got it right. LA fucked it up big time. Of course they did.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If anybody's going to fuck it up, it's going to be LA. Oh, yeah. Well, Fenway. And if anybody's going to get it right, it would be Atlanta. Yeah, yeah. It would be people completely disconnected from show business. I think there should be a study done on this.
Starting point is 00:10:19 On like, why Atlanta? What specifically about Atlanta? Well, it's always been known as a fun town. A lot of great artists have come from Atlanta. A lot of great music. Great comedy. It's a city, but it's not a city that has anything to do with entertainment. I think when you've got anything to do with entertainment.
Starting point is 00:10:41 No, it's a big film industry. Right, but not because it started there. Because they went there for the taxes. You know, they went there because it's easier. Like Massachusetts has that too. What I'm saying about is like, you don't move to Georgia to make it as an actor. Even though there's a lot of work there. You move to Hollywood to make it as an actor.
Starting point is 00:11:00 So the weirdest, the fucking most fucked up people, the people that are the most needy, they're going to go to L.A. Right. They're going to go to L.A. And it's like ingredients in a soup. If you got too much hot sauce, that soup gets rough. Sometimes it's just a couple of drops. You got a big ass bowl of soup, but if you put some of that fucking Da Bomb stuff, you ever have that stuff?
Starting point is 00:11:19 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ari gave me a bottle of that stuff. It's ridiculous. I don't play that. It's so hot. It's like too crazy. But my point is a couple of those people scattered around in a city can ruin the city. And then if you have an industry that's like almost entirely filled with crazy people,
Starting point is 00:11:38 like acting, when I meet cool actors, it is shocking. It's such a breath of fresh air. Like, dude, you're so nice it's so nice to talk to you know what they always have in common they had a rough rough life before they they made it big yeah a lot of them do a lot of them do some of them are really impressive and it makes me embarrassed that i sort of dismiss uh some actors i dismiss them as being insane. That's the safest bet, though. It is a safe bet. It's like... I mean...
Starting point is 00:12:09 Because an actor that is crazy, if they in your life, it's like they can act, so they can lie. And they're practicing on you. Yeah. And you would have no idea. If Daniel Day-Lewis
Starting point is 00:12:23 wanted to lie to your face, you wouldn't be able to tell. Bro, when Amber Heard and Johnny Depp were having arguments that they recorded, I'm like, this is peak insanity. Yeah, it's crazy. You have two people who know other people are going to listen to this. Yeah. And they're both aware of it because they were told to record their conversations.
Starting point is 00:12:41 So they're both being very performative. And they're both, like, conning each other. My favorite part is Donnie Chipp going, don't tell me what it's like to be punched. Punched. The way he says punched, I can't, I laugh every time I hear it. Don't tell me what it's like to be punched. Isn't that crazy that she was trying to tell everybody that he had urban meme
Starting point is 00:13:00 while she said him? Oh, yeah. Like, I still still i'll never get over that like in the way the way everybody just let her slide after that it's weird because if that was a guy that he's like something something about some woman and and you know tried to ruin her life like that like he'd be shunned but there's still people that like who was someone tweeted a joke about amber heard recently who was talking about that jamie and they got attacked by who was it oh they said they said a joke that didn't even say her name right they were talking about her yeah
Starting point is 00:13:40 would they get canceled no it was just like it's's almost like she's hired one of those, I'm not accusing her of hiring this, but there are publicity teams you can hire. So if people are saying bad things about you, you can hire a team and those people will go after anybody who says anything bad about you and it discourages people from talking shit about you. Oh, but that doesn't work. It doesn't work, but it... I guess it lets people know you're not going to be an easy win. It also makes the argument muddy. Because if everybody agrees that she's a psycho, then it's just an echo chamber.
Starting point is 00:14:22 But if you get the narrative to like, fuck you, you don't know what happened before that recording. And, you know, he's an abuser in this and that. And Amber speaks the truth. And she's a woman and she was confused. And, you know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of people that will chime in and say those things. And if you're hiring people, if you have like, say, if you're a politician and something goes down and everyone's blaming you for some particular crisis your city has.
Starting point is 00:14:48 If you have, like, a marketing team that has a whole social media aspect to it, a propaganda aspect, essentially, you can have a bunch of people arguing for the mayor. And he didn't fuck anything up. And it's the city council's problem and he warned them in 2014 they could say shit that's not even true right and especially if they have these weirdo accounts where it's just a bunch of numbers and letters and there's no picture attached to it and you go to them there's no followers you're like this is wild well i got a lot of shit for uh for my criticism i ever heard but's like, hey man, I'm not saying she wasn't abused. She was dating a crazy motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:15:28 They were both crazy. But from the evidence I heard, she's the only one that sounded like an abuser. But that's the only evidence we heard. When those two were together, see, you gotta imagine they were together for how many years and how many drunken fights that they have.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Like, who knows who did what to who, but the— When you're at the point where you— Like, when the bitch shit on your bed, you got to get out. You got to get out. You got to get out. She's a boundary crosser. Yeah, I got no empathy for you past that point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:56 When you got to start recording your spouse, it's time to go. Why even try to win that fight down on the sleeve? I think for people like that, too, because they're so famous, it's probably very difficult to find someone new. You know, you would imagine, like, very few people could relate to them. And, you know, they're both beautiful movie stars, too. Yeah, but you can find somebody that's not going to shit on your bed. Yeah, I bet you can.
Starting point is 00:16:20 That's not a low bar to clear. It's totally possible. Yeah. Yeah, because I don't need, like, if you ever show me That's not a low bar to clear. It's totally possible. Yeah. I don't need... If you ever show me that you're going to introduce chaos to my life, you're gone. I don't got time for that. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah, you got to know when. How many bathrooms we got in the house, bitch? You're shitting on the bed. What kind of drugs are they doing? Oh, man. Probably the best. Shit your bed drugs. The best drugs, for sure i mean that dude's pals with keith richards it's just you know publicly to see
Starting point is 00:16:55 something like that so uh it the thing about it is though you know it happens you know people are nuts you know people have nutty relationships and nutty fights. But until you really see it and then see a court case about it on television for the whole world to see. Oh, yeah. You see like some pretty, you know, what looks like lies, you know, a bunch of crazy talk. And, you know, just realize like these guys were in hell. You're thinking of them as movie stars, and they were in hell. They were in hell in the most psycho relationship ever. And I don't even think it was really about the money.
Starting point is 00:17:33 It was like, I beat you, you know? Yeah. Well, I think she ruined his career. I think he was getting kicked off of movies because he was being called an abuser. And he was trying to say that's not true. And she actually used to hit me. And then the recordings come out. And, like, you know, I don't, clearly I don't know what the fuck happened.
Starting point is 00:17:55 But that guy definitely lost that Pirates of the Caribbean role because of that. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, this is my conclusion from all of it. Because, you know, the documentary came on Netflix, too, right, about it? I didn't see the documentary. Yeah, is that she is definitely an abuser, and he is probably an abuser. You know what I mean? So if you put a gun in my head, I'm Team Johnny.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But I don't know. Also, you got to think that the way he behaves with her, if she's abusing him, is different than the way he behaves if someone's not abusing him. But also, man, you've been in a relationship with crazy people. It's like they learn how to pull the crazy out of you so they can say, you know what I mean? So it's like if you're with a person like that long enough, they know exactly how to make you act crazy so they can turn around and go, he's lost his mind. But for people to act like, oh, it's Eve and Steve, I'm like, no, that's not true, bitch. She is an abuser for sure. This is the way she was talking.
Starting point is 00:18:57 What you going to do? You going to tell people? They going to think you a little bitch. Like, who talks like that? Is that what she said to him? Yeah. I don't know the exact words on the recording, but that was the sentiment of like, oh, Johnny,
Starting point is 00:19:07 you gonna tell people I hit you? And if they believe you, you gonna tell them you getting beat up by a little pussy? Like, that's how she was talking to him. You got the recording, Jamie? She's like, I get it. At that point, you gotta leave. Yeah, and I don't have
Starting point is 00:19:23 no tape from her of him talking like that. Right. So I'm like, you know, I know that's how abusers talk. That's how somebody would talk of you if they were like just an abusive parent or anybody. You tell anybody and you know what's going to happen. That's how abusers talk. I don't hear him talk like that. He sound like an abused man.
Starting point is 00:19:39 She sound like an abused woman, too. Like she's saying all the things an abused woman would say, but she an actress. So without the evidence, I'm like, you just killed that role, or... The thing is, she's not really good. At acting? Yeah. She's good. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:58 But she's not Daniel Day-Lewis good. Well, no. Nobody is. Right? So if Daniel Day-Lewis could lie to me, I'd be like, damn, he really is from 1400. He's got a fucking time machine, Brian. I met a guy with a time machine. Yeah, I couldn't tell. Daniel Day-Lewis, Meryl Streep,
Starting point is 00:20:12 Denzel. Yeah, there's a few of them that could just lie right to your face. I don't think she's one of those. Nah, she ain't got that. But she can dig deep. I'm sure while she's got some emotions she could pull out. Yeah, so I don't know. Yeah, I mean, that's also one of the things that's fascinating about acting is we kind of reward crazy people that are actors because they're really good at it. Like some of the nuttiest people that I've ever met were amazing actors.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Like some of them are really good at it and they're fucking crazy i think you've got to be able to tap into you know every every kind of artist is a controlled crazy it's like you're barely holding your crazy to containing it yeah yeah you kind of got to be a little nuts just to pursue something something like that yes for sure and then also you're in this industry that at least until you know recently rewarded people for being insane. It was like it's part of the legend of guys like Jack Nicholson, or part of the legend of the greats. That's also when they had the most fun. Marlon Brando, out of his fucking mind, remember? He became like 300 pounds, moved to an island.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Remember? He stopped acting totally well that's you know because now I hear stories and there's like there's a photographer that like took a bunch of pictures in the 90s you know Hollywood underground la scene like people in a club having a bunch of fun because he's the only one with a camera nobody's got cameras no smartphones and it was like that was the last time you could have a great time without like I just let loose without having people sign in das and all of this. You can't even throw a party without your lawyer now.
Starting point is 00:21:50 You can't. Nah, nah. Nah. The temptation to cloud chase is too high. What were we just talking about? I was going to tell you something. Amber Heard? Just after that.
Starting point is 00:22:01 People in Hollywood being crazy? Shit, I can't believe I lost her. Marlon Brando, Jack Nicholson. Marlon Brando. Oh, yeah, they had little gay parties. Little gay, eyes wide shut parties. I'm sure he had a lot of that. God damn it, I forget what it was now.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Marlon Brando, fat, 300 pounds. Marlon Brando, fat, 300 pounds. Moved to an island. And then that was it. I'm not going to get it. It'll come back once you stop thinking about it. It will. What is that when that happens? That weird thing where your brain just
Starting point is 00:22:33 stops thinking about the thing you were just thinking about. No, I saw a study man, and I can't name the study. I probably shouldn't quote it. Oh, now I remember what it was. There it is. Thank you. This is what it was. Marlon is. There it is. Thank you. This is what it was. Marlon Brando, when he won the Academy Award, did not accept the Academy Award. Instead, had a Native American woman go up there and accept the award.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And it turns out she wasn't really Native American. What? He had Elizabeth Warren accept his award? Yes, Elizabeth Warren went up and accepted his award. And her fucking sister ratted her out, I believe. Haters. It'd be your own people that'd be hating. But she's beautiful. I mean, like, and she's probably crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:13 But if you find the video, it's kind of funny. Because, like, accepting the award for Marlon Brando, and she goes up and talks about, I think she talked about Native American genocide. She's a fake Native American. She just made it up. She changed her name, like the whole deal. What was her name?
Starting point is 00:23:33 Did he know? Shasheen Littlefeather. Littlefeather. She just calls herself Littlefeather. He didn't know. He's Marlon Brando. He's on an island fucking everybody that moves. So this lady was not Native American at all.
Starting point is 00:23:47 So look at the Academy Award. What's that? I heard the Wikipedia says she's from Oxnard. Wow. And her sister was like, you bitch, you're not fucking Native American. Imagine like your sister is crazy and you hate your sister and you're always fighting. And then one day you see that bitch at the Oscars Telling everybody she's an Indian
Starting point is 00:24:09 But how she fooled everybody she don't even look native well watch watch her talk she kind of does she kind of does I Mean she could be Here good seems form a micro tool. From the gun brother. Hello. My name is Sashene Littlefeather. No, it's not!
Starting point is 00:24:31 And I'm president of the National Native American Affirmative Image Committee. I'm representing Marlon Brando this evening, and he has asked me to tell you in a very long speech, which I cannot share with you presently because of time, but I will be i cannot share with you presently because of time but i will be glad to share with the press afterwards that he very regretfully cannot accept this very generous award
Starting point is 00:24:56 and the reasons for this being are the treatment of american indians today by the film industry excuse me, and on television in movie reruns and also with recent happenings at Wounded Knee. I beg at this time that I have not intruded. Wounded Knee was quite a long time before that. Why'd you say recent happenings at Wounded Knee? There was a protest there or something.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, so her ancestor dispute here, after her death, though, which is kind of... Oh, that's when she got busted? Yeah. Her biological sisters, Rosalind Cruz and Trudy Orlandi,
Starting point is 00:25:50 who say the family does not have Native American ancestry. Keeler writes that the sisters state that their father, who was born in Oxnard, California, was of Mexican descent and had no tribal ties, nor was he related to the Yaqui tribes of northern Mexico. Furthermore, Cruz believed Little Feather fabricated a Native identity because she thought it was more prestigious to be Native American than to be Hispanic. Keillor searched records for Little Feather's family going back to 1850 and
Starting point is 00:26:16 did not find evidence of Native ancestry. So she got away with it. Damn, Little Feather walked so Rachel Dolezal could run. Yeah, well, you know, back then there was no social media. Like your friends from college couldn't tweet and go, what? Right, right. What the fuck are you doing? You know, that's one of the things that happened with Elizabeth Holmes, that lady who ran that Theranos scam. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Who created a fake voice. The King scam. Her friends from college were like, why is that bitch talking like that? They would call each other up. Hey, have you heard her on the news? Why is she fucking talking like she- They got her at a party like, totally. And then she gets on the stage and she's like-
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Starting point is 00:27:11 that are made by like one person, you know? Oh, yeah. That's what I learned about. Oh, I mean, you can do amazing stuff with your phone today and just edit it all on your phone and upload it to YouTube. It's a wild time. You ever try that shit, though? No, I don't have time.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I'm like, these kids. My kids do it. They have this shit? No, I don't have the time. I'm like, these kids. My kids do it. They have this shit mastered. Because I try to do it, and I'm like, wait a minute. Did you just spend two hours making a 15-second video? Right.
Starting point is 00:27:32 They're like, yeah. Yeah, they don't care. Yeah, I don't got it. Yeah, they'll make these intricate TikTok videos that are 15 seconds, and they'll work all day on it. But it's just like, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:44 I mean, we're just, we're dinosaurs when it comes to that stuff. You, you know, I mean, we're just dinosaurs when it comes to that stuff. You know, well, I'm kind of, I consider myself tech savvy, but I'm not really social media literate, you know? Yeah, because sometimes, I've had young people make fun
Starting point is 00:28:00 of the angle that I took my picture from, and I'm like, when did the rules check? You know? They tell me, oh, you take a selfie like an old man. I'm like, what does that mean? I thought you just take a picture yourself. Yeah, that's so stupid. Yeah, and I guess there's a way that old people always hold the camera
Starting point is 00:28:16 and I guess, I don't know. Yeah. Who cares how you take pictures? That's the weird thing about comedy, because Derek and Hassan are, they're two of my closest friends, but I'm, like, 10 years older than them. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:30 So, like, they always old manning me, you know? They're right. Well, I'm way older than them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm around them, too. But that's just how it is. But they keep me young. Oh, they keep me.
Starting point is 00:28:40 At least they let me know when I'm being lame. Well, it's always fun to check in on the young generation. Like, what are you guys into? What does that mean? What does cap mean? No cap? What does that mean? That means no bullshit?
Starting point is 00:28:53 Why did you say no bullshit? Why do you have to have a new word for no bullshit? Well, yeah, because cap could also just mean lie. Right. Yeah. Right. How'd that happen? How did cap become lie?
Starting point is 00:29:03 I don't know the origination of it Honestly I found out from Schultz I heard Schultz talk about it He goes Cap I go what does that mean? He goes I call Cap I go what are you calling?
Starting point is 00:29:14 But that's the thing It's like but Cap See black people have been saying Cap For like 20 years Oh So it's like woke Yeah It's like TikTok just
Starting point is 00:29:22 Like TikTok has Shortened the amount of time From when black people say some cool shit and then white people make it lame. You know what I mean? Right, it's a fucking shorter window. Yeah, it used to be, you know, black people would say some cool shit and it would be, you know, pushed to the side. And then maybe 10 years later, black parents are saying it. And so now it's lame to the black kids. But by that time, the white kids are saying it.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Right. And then we already off it. And then the white parents are saying it and so now it's lame to the black kids but by that time the white kids are saying it right and then we already off it and then the and then the white parents are saying it and now it's lame i'm bringing back groovy like the bomb like we who says that nobody right who's saying the bomb now white white grandparents yeah middle of the midwest yeah so it's like but now but that used to take like 20 years now it's Now it's like a year and a half. Because it hit TikTok and it hits everybody. You know what it's like? It's like an hourglass, but they just opened up the pipe. Yeah, yeah. The sand flows through quicker.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Yeah, I'll have people like young people on TikTok telling me like, oh, that's not what that means. I'm like, that is what it means. We made it up. Isn't that fascinating like how quick things change now? Like cultural things change now like cultural things change yeah the meaning of
Starting point is 00:30:28 fuckboy changed quick yeah yeah because you know you know Ian Edwards yeah I remember that bit yeah he used to have a bit about fuckboy
Starting point is 00:30:36 and then right under his feet the meaning changed yeah cause the kids you know yeah I think he's
Starting point is 00:30:42 I don't know if he still has a bit but yeah it's like they're changing it up cause what it takes is you know sometimes you. I think he's, I don't know if he still has a bit, but yeah, it's like they're changing it up because what it takes is, you know how sometimes you'll hear a slang word and you'll try to figure out
Starting point is 00:30:52 what it means. Right. So what happens is somebody that doesn't know what it means will just assume what it means, be wrong,
Starting point is 00:30:58 but popular. Yeah. And so the whole meaning of it changes. Yeah. You know, they go viral on TikTok and the next thing you know
Starting point is 00:31:04 they telling you, you wrong. You know, they go viral on TikTok, and the next thing you know, they're telling you you're wrong. You know? The TikTok generation is like, how much attention do they have? Man. You're essentially being programmed from the time you're very young to look at something very quickly. And just get a little bit of information, move on. A little bit of information, move on.
Starting point is 00:31:21 There's a bunch of people that want to be famous for free. Yeah. Because they think fame is the prize. It's like, oh, no, no, no, no. Fame sucks. Like, fame without money sucks. Right. You don't want to be famous and broke.
Starting point is 00:31:30 But you're looking at it as a person with talent who has a career. What they're looking at is like, hey, maybe I don't have to get a job. Yeah. Like, if I could just fucking dance around in front of my phone. You know what, kids? Y'all on to something. Yeah. Because working sucks.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Working sucks. Like, you know, kids? Y'all on to something. Yeah, because working sucks. Working sucks. Like, you know, I was just telling the homie this, but there's, I don't remember ever feeling so bad about myself in life until, except for that, the period where I was
Starting point is 00:31:59 working my ass off just to make enough to go to work. Like, I only had enough money to, you know, to eat and go to work and go home and come back. And even so, even on my days off, I couldn't do shit because I wasn't making enough money. You know what I mean? Yeah. And that if all you can.
Starting point is 00:32:14 That's how I know. That's how I know living is more important than working. You don't we don't you don't live to work. You work to live. So so nobody wants to just work. Because when you just work, you feel like shit. You want to die All the time
Starting point is 00:32:25 But it's the opposite also When you don't work at all You die in a different way Right You feel useless You got to have a purpose You feel useless And you don't get anything done
Starting point is 00:32:35 Yeah And you don't grow When you don't have a job You don't get anything done Because you don't have any money So you can't really do stuff And it's just kind of At your house all day
Starting point is 00:32:42 Just waiting But sometimes Sometimes I'll put it to you like this I've never been envious Of somebody that's do stuff and it's just kind of at your house all day just waiting but sometimes sometimes i'll put it to you like this i've never been envious of somebody that's being worked to death but i've walked past some homeless people that laid out on the sidewalk you know and i'm like you know what there's something to that just not giving a fuck like you wherever you are you at home now yeah you don't care about the smell who Who gives a fuck? It's pissy out here, but you're comfortable. If I had to choose between the two, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I'd have a tough decision. You could always find a public shower. The thing is, it just sucks. It sucks being homeless. There's no good thing about being homeless, but there's also no good thing about work. You don't want either or. But once you're at the point where you're not rewarded for smelling good, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Like, my life's the same whether I smell good or not. Right. Who knows? Yeah, you just live on the street no matter what. You don't care what you smell like. Well, some of them be just high as a motherfucker. They're not even out there. See, when you run into them, you see them as out there.
Starting point is 00:33:41 But they're not even there. They in the clouds. You see them as out there, but they're not even there. They're in the clouds. We ran into this lady at a gas station out here, and her head was, her posture was so bad that her head hung down. Like, instead of going straight up from her shoulders, somehow or another, her neck had her head, like, all the way down. It didn't look possible. Like she might have legitimately had a broken neck at one point in time and didn't do anything about it.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Oh, Lord. Like that's how bad it was. And this poor lady, she was probably in her 60s, or she might have been a hard 50, just cracked out of her mind, scabs everywhere, clothes dirty and disheveled, and she's just coming up to us and asking us for money and she can't even look you in the eyes and it was just like oh you you were someone she's
Starting point is 00:34:32 just holding a mirror like this she was someone's little baby she was someone's little baby girl oh i thought you said she was holding a baby no no no at one point in time she was someone's little baby girl yeah it's been a long time since she was dead but in that wild like like you can go so bad you know a wild fact that I discovered and this is you know correct me if I'm wrong fans but I have a theory that you know yeah you know how you see crack is like they have a funny walk sometimes yeah I have a theory that the people that are strung out on drugs, they walk like they still have the ass that they used to have. You know?
Starting point is 00:35:12 So, like, if you see a crackhead lady, like, walking funny, picture her with a fatter ass. And it makes sense. Right. Because she's still, in her mind, looks like that. Her hips was trained on her good ass. Right. Now she on crack and in the strength of nothing, but she still got the movements. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Let's see. Let's see if I'm right. You know what scares the shit out of me that I've been seeing on Instagram is anorexics. There was some anorexic lady who was dancing around on Instagram, and then I told my daughter about it, and she knew the girl's name. Like Eugenia or something like that. She's a famous Instagram. She famous for being anorexic? I believe that's part of what she's famous for, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Because when, you know, I used to do yoga at this place. Yeah, there she is. Oh, no, baby girl, no. You should see the video see if you find videos of it because like when she's dancing around like that one down there with the microphone in her hand that's the one i saw like look at this that's crazy man god damn that wig looked like it's weighing her down bro it scares the shit out of me i Wait a minute. Damn. Why you show me this? Look at the bones in her hips.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I mean, I used to do yoga with this lady who was anorexic. She, I shouldn't say used to do, I did it once.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Showed up at this class and this lady was there and you know, at the beginning of the class, like before the class starts, people are like warming up and stuff and I look over and I had to do one of these.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Like, don't freak out. Because she was like 70 pounds. She looked like that lady. But she was like right next to me on the mat right next to me. I was like, oh, my God. Is she doing jujitsu? No, no, no, yoga. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I was going to say, get her out of there. Just let her tap me. Just go ahead, get me. No, shoot, this poor lady. It made me so sad. It was so sad. It was so sad because she doesn't, you could fix that with food. Like, you're at yoga class.
Starting point is 00:37:17 You're not poor. That's way more alarming than, like, morbid obesity. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's weird. Because it seems like an easier fix. But I think we have to realize, this is really important,
Starting point is 00:37:28 we have to realize that when we judge people like that lady or even like someone who's morbidly obese, like Lizzo or something like that, if you, she's not morbidly, right? Is she? No, but I would just sit here thinking,
Starting point is 00:37:42 damn, I'm glad he didn't say Lizzo. That's the easy way to go. Because everybody always goes Lizzo. Tim Dillon. Let's say Tim Dillon. Okay. I think what we have to really think about, and I never used to think about this when I was younger because I was a hard ass. I think you have to really understand that there's
Starting point is 00:38:06 something wrong. There's something wrong. Just like there's something wrong when someone thinks that demons are talking to them. Just like there's something wrong when someone can't stop gambling. There's something wrong when someone is starving themselves to death, and they don't realize that it looks insane.
Starting point is 00:38:24 There's something wrong It's like with bodybuilders that never feel like they're big enough, you know, you know, that's a thing. It's like body dysmorphia Yeah When you look in the mirror, you don't see what everybody else sees. Yeah, and I think that it's not even just that they don't see It it's just like they don't have control of what's happening There's a bunch of factors and everyone's like oh you've got control you could go right you do if you are at your best if you were captured by the viet con fucking tortured for three years do you think you'd be the same person you wouldn't be all right
Starting point is 00:38:57 and if you lived some horrific life filled with physical and sexual abuse and violence and crime and incarceration. Or not even that. Yeah. Sometimes it's one thing. One traumatic event can fuck your whole shit up. Sure. And the point is there's so many factors that lead to a person starving themselves to death on TikTok. Like it's not as simple as that girl just needs to eat it's
Starting point is 00:39:26 like that there's a problem and the problem is showing itself as a skeleton but the pro there's a lot of problems it's not as simple as like she doesn't know what she looks like right yeah there's something dark there so what so fuck. This is going to fuck me. This is going to haunt me. Is she famous for being the anorexic girl? I don't know. I just saw that video, and I brought it up to my daughter. My daughter knew her name.
Starting point is 00:39:55 She knew who she was. And she pulled up videos, and she was like, it's so sad. I was like, it is sad. And she doesn't know that it looks terrible. Especially because, like, I'm pretty sure when your body fat percentage drops to a certain, like, it's life-threatening. Oh, she's 100% life-threatening. Dude, it's life-threatening for sure. Starvation is one of the absolute worst things that can happen to your body because your body starts to digest itself.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Yeah. You notice how you never hear the uh the body positive movement it's never like just because she's that skinny don't mean she ain't healthy right no that bitch about to die exactly there's no body positivity movement for not eating no hell no according to Wikipedia this is her first video that went viral on like 10 years ago on world star hip-hop okay so then she looks just thin yeah but she she looks like her mom and dad probably like you need to eat baby that's that's what it's not an emergency it's she's very thin but she also looks like she's frail framed right
Starting point is 00:40:57 she's a small person little frame but she still looks healthy yeah the between that and what she's at now look you could could see her legs. You don't see these bones poking out everywhere. Right, right. It's a mental illness, man. I mean, it's 100% mental illness. Especially when you got a twerk from the knees. Play that.
Starting point is 00:41:18 She twerking from the knees. Well, she doesn't have a lot to work with. No, no. I mean, she's a tiny lady. She's so frail. But to see her like that, like, it's just any, like I said, that lady who used to take yoga, it was like watching her do it was just like, oh, my God. Yeah, because how do you cure anorexia? Is it just like, has anyone cured it?
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yes. Yeah. People have bounced back from it. Yeah. I don't know what they have, people have bounced back from it. I don't know what they have to do to bounce back from it. And maybe, I think a lot of it gets exacerbated by models. They have to starve themselves. When your relationship with food is compromised, I think that might be the most dangerous.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Even the opposite, like food addiction. It's like when your drug is food, that feels like such a – because you can't quit food. You know, it would almost be like if you had to do a little heroin every day and you had a heroin problem. Yes, exactly. You know, it's like you got to eat. Right. You have to. It's the only addiction that you can't ever just abstain from.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Right, right. So that's tough. But then what is this? Is it like is it like the signal like something's fucked up with the chain of events that happens when you put food in your mouth? We're like your body instead of being like, oh, that's great. It's like, get the fuck out of me. I think for this lady, I mean, who knows what led her down to being a skeleton. But it's like they think that thinner is better. Just like when women have like crazy implants. Oh, like just super gigantic. Super gigantic, triple Z implants.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Yeah, like Nancy Pelosi. Yeah. Big old knockers. Like, what are you doing? Like, what are you doing? You know, they don't see it. They want them bigger. They want them bigger.
Starting point is 00:43:04 It's like it becomes some crazy. Plastic surgery reveals so much. Yeah. It's like, do you? Because the big one now is like the lip injections. And you see some people be like, you know that don't look. Right. It looks like you got stung by a bee on your lip.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Well, your face has symmetry to it. There's like a certain ratio to like the distance between the eyes and the length of the nose and where the chin is. And when one of those things is off, your brain is going, why is your nose so little? But also, there's wrinkles on your bottom lip. So when you get too much of a lip injection, it looks
Starting point is 00:43:38 smooth. Your lip looks smooth, so it looks swollen. Right. You know? And even though somebody might look at your face and not notice what's off, they notice, they know something's off. Right. You know? And even though somebody might look at your face and not notice what's off, they know something's off. Right. You know? Right.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Why are your lips smooth, bitch? That's weird. Why are they so shiny and stretched? Right. I never thought of that part.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Yeah, it looks weird to me. The lip thing doesn't work. It's like, we went for boobs and they're like, okay,
Starting point is 00:44:02 what about lips? Let's try lips. Everybody likes to feel lips. And they tried it, but it's like, that's your face. Yeah, yeah. But I think you can do a little and pull it off. Some girls think they're doing a little bit of it.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Yeah, some people have nailed it. But you've got to be careful not to get crazy. You don't want to be the skeleton lady. You know what I mean? Right, right. You don't want to be obese. You don't want to be the body lady. You know what I mean? Right. You don't want to be obese. You don't want to be the bodybuilder that thinks he's small. I just feel like if she's been like this for that long,
Starting point is 00:44:30 don't they get to the point where they fuck up their esophagus from throwing up so much? I don't think she's eating. She's probably barely alive, man. When you're that little, I mean, essentially her body has deteriorated, right? Like you're not seeing anything but the bones bones all the hip bones and everything like that you don't see any meat but let's be honest she look like she was having a blast I mean it's easy to look like that for 15 seconds when you shoot probably I sleep for 11 hours she probably has zero energy how she making money from many
Starting point is 00:45:01 influencers I guess but what is she't know. But what product is... None. What is she... Ads, maybe? You know, people just like... She was up for hundreds of thousands of followers. She was up for YouTuber of the Year in 2020. How?
Starting point is 00:45:15 I've never heard of her. I don't know her. YouTuber of the Year. She might... Her YouTube might be fine. It might be. Why are we judging? We haven't even watched any of these amazing videos.
Starting point is 00:45:23 No, bro. I think it's just, I think it's a sweepstakes. People are betting money on when she's going to eat, and she just teases them every week. She just puts the ceiling right here. I hope she gets better. I do, too, man. I really do. That's a sad one. How old is that girl?
Starting point is 00:45:39 Almost 30. Almost 30. Yeah, when you lose that kind of weight and get that thin, that has to be. Let's Google anorexia and its detrimental health effects on the human body. It's got to be horrific. Because I know weight cutting is fucking absolutely brutal for these fighters, but that's severe dehydration, which is not quite the same thing. But they get real thin
Starting point is 00:46:06 before they do that a lot of times. At least they used to. Guys are getting better at cutting just all the water out now. Oh, yeah. Well, I remember when I, see, I never got to see it up close till we went to Fight Week. And I was like, oh, damn, like, you gotta leave these motherfuckers alone. Yeah. Yeah, like the day
Starting point is 00:46:22 before, they look, they look like somebody just rescued them Well they did, they rescued them from death They legitimately are at death's door Okay, this is Complications of anorexia include Anemia, heart problems such as Mitral valve prolapse, abnormal
Starting point is 00:46:39 Heart rhythms or heart failure Bone loss, osteoporosis Increasing the risk of fractures Loss of muscle inures, loss of muscle in females, absence of period in males, decreased testosterone, gastrointestinal problems such as constipation, bloating, or nausea, electrolyte abnormalities such as low blood potassium, sodium and chloride, and kidney problems. Here's a question. what's the ratio of men with anorexia versus women and how many of the men who have anorexia are gay men
Starting point is 00:47:12 i think i mean it might be a problem but i bet i bet it's very few men have anorexia i bet well but i think that's starting to change, right? Because right now... People are non-binary. No, but right now, Pete Davidson is a sex symbol. Pete Davidson and Machine Gun Kelly. Like, young white women love the sick-looking... Sort of. Like, the real malnourished-looking guys.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Sort of, until Jason Momoa shows up. Well... Right, right. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is... And then your eggs start talking. guys. Sort of, until Jason Momoa shows up. Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is And then your eggs start talking. What I'm saying is more guys don't mind. Because men do what gets them late. Yes. And so it's like
Starting point is 00:47:56 that's why it's not very many anorexic men. Yeah, but they're not going to try that hard to stop eating. Anorexia. I bet you a lot of men in the model industry are probably anorexic. I would think they would have to be fit. Well, they do, but you don't have to look like her to be anorexic. Yeah, the research I'm trying to find says there's a problem.
Starting point is 00:48:18 It's just general eating disorder is big in men. Going to anorexia, I think it's tough to find. Well, overeating is probably bigger in men. Correct. Yeah, that's what I was even finding. The first study, they had double the amount of women responded even, but it's twice as many men said they had an eating disorder than women. Right, but that just could be their addicted eating food.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Correct. Most of it's, yeah, overeating. So they don't have data on just anorexia? I'm trying to find it, and I have not located it. Why don't you Google how many men have anorexia? Just Google that. I'm curious just what the number is. I bet you it's surprisingly low.
Starting point is 00:48:53 It says percentage of anorexics are 25% are men. A quarter of anorexics are men? 10 to 25%. Okay, that's higher than I would guess. That's higher than I would think. But what's the number of total anorexics? I don't know. Say 10% to 25% are men?
Starting point is 00:49:14 Is that what you said? Yeah. Do they have to self-report? That's not, yeah. You can't blow 80 pounds. Yeah, that's how they would have to know. You'd have to go get help for them to find out. So it's out of the sites, 20 million women and 10 million men have an eating disorder.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Males make up 25% of people with anorexia. 25%. Wow. Wow. Because they're often diagnosed later than females. They are at a higher risk of dying. Ooh. I think that's probably true of every disease.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah. It also says it's not common in people over the age of 40 Interesting So it's only common when You want someone to fuck you Yeah well I think it's probably just common When the most young impressionable Because once you're over 40
Starting point is 00:49:59 You're like I don't give a fuck Yeah hopefully Hopefully you get to the I don't give a fuck 40s Because there's nothing sadder than someone Who's like in their the i don't give a fuck 40s because there's nothing sadder than someone who's like in their 60s and still gives a fuck yeah dude it's like you wasted that's the only benefit yeah the only benefit this also adds just for men are likely underdiagnosed with eating disorders because clinical assessment tools emphasize a desire to lose weight as opposed to building muscle so So they might not.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I mean, I guess they're asking a bunch of questions, and they don't mind asking guys the right questions maybe either. Women have a 1.5 to 7.5 to 3 times higher prevalence for anorexia bulimia, so bulimia might be more prevalent. Okay, so wait a minute. What's the difference between bulimia and anorexia? Bulimia, you throw up your food. You eat, and then you throw it up. Okay, that's why I was talking about the damaged esophagus. Yes. Okay. And anorexia. Bulimia, you throw up your food. You eat and then you throw it up. Okay, that's why I was talking about the damaged esophagus.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Yes. Okay. And anorexia is just you don't eat. Anorexia is just you don't eat at all. Oh, wow. But I bet some people have both. Yeah. Well, I think if you have bulimia, you probably die sooner.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yeah, that's also true. Men are three times more likely than women to have a sub-threshold BED, which would be eating disorder. Meaning it's significant but does not meet all criteria for an official diagnosis. Yeah, overeating. Because throwing up all the time. And lastly. Because you know severe alcoholics get that. What's the lastly?
Starting point is 00:51:16 50 to 80% of anorexia is genetic. Whoa. And it's the deadliest mental disease. Whoa. Anorexia nervosa. One in five is a suicide death. The risk of death in anorexia is more than double the death rate of schizophrenia. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Almost triple the death rate of bipolar disease and more than triple the death rate due to depression. Wow. The crazy thing is maybe 80% of it is genetic. That's the wild thing, man. See, bro, that's the thing. A lot of times, you got to get healthy enough to get healthy. Once you got to the point where enough shit is broken, it's like trying to drive a car that needs a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:52:07 You have to fix all this other stuff before you can even get to driving, you know? Yeah. It's like. That's a lot of work, too, to get past that. Yeah. Once you get to the point where more than one thing's wrong, you have some hard choices. Genetically, what are your genes telling you?
Starting point is 00:52:22 Like, I wonder, what's interesting it's like does that mean that it's prevalent in multiple family members and is that because of like some other shit well yeah you probably are predisposed to it but then something something in your environment has to trigger it maybe or is it possible that what we're calling genetic is just the same environmental stimuli, the same shitty abusive family life or whatever it is? And it just like transfers down from generation to generation? Because like you think in some ways, especially when I was younger, I thought like how would my stepdad think of this you know i thought like he thought of things you think about like the older people in your life you think about your family like how they think of things like you think for yourself but you're
Starting point is 00:53:13 not sure right so you think like what would my mom do how would my mom think about what are they saying i like i like these babies just pushing titties away you know i don't know the genetic i don't know i don't know so my my thought is that like maybe it's just prevalent in many people because they have a terrible family life like depression like depression is supposedly genetic and i bet it is but is it always genetic because someone has some sort of wrong wiring in their brain? They transfer that on through their genes? Or is it because all the people in the family live these fucked up shitty lives and there's no hope in that house?
Starting point is 00:53:56 And everyone who is a part of that is kind of fucked. They found two specific genes that do it, and that brings it up to a 90% chance of having an eating disorder. Holy shit. Yeah, so I think your genes just mean you're more likely to get it. It's something to do with your appetite. Interesting. So these two genes, ESRRA and HDAC4, increase a person's chance of developing an eating disorder by 90% to 85%.
Starting point is 00:54:20 But this is eating too much, right? This is not anorexia. No, no. They studied people with anorexia. Oh, interesting. See, these genes, as well as some of the other identified by researchers, are involved in signaling your brain's appetite. Blockages or interruptions in the appetite pathways may impact how a person interprets hunger. Oh.
Starting point is 00:54:41 So their wiring is fucked up and they're not getting hungry? And linked it to diabetes. Wow. Metabolic conditions. They studied twins. Wow. There's links with twins that had it that proved some of the family genetic stuff too. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:54:58 So it's some screwy wiring that makes you less hungry? But also you should know. here's a part of the thing that i don't understand you got to know if you see yourself like that that something's wrong why wouldn't you just drink some milkshakes why wouldn't you just do something to put calories into your body you'd have to know that you're dying right so there's obviously a mental illness component to it too well yeah i think i think it's it's not as simple as like a gene being off or that where you're not hungry no i know i don't think it's that you're not hungry as much as it is is that whatever the normal processes is to tell
Starting point is 00:55:36 you to go eat yeah you like your shit screwed up somehow like whatever hundred signals got to be passed for you to go eat and like desire the food right something in that chain is fucked up but not only is something in that chain fucked up but you don't have the rational ability to say i need to consume food right because a person needs certain amount of thousand calories a day it's screwy too because you know my um you know burner jerry burner he he was doing he was doing wrestling since he was a kid. You know, all the weight cutting and stuff. And it's fucked him up to the point where, like, he forgets to eat. He doesn't get hungry like we do.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Really? Yeah. He has to remind himself to eat. Like, you know, he doesn't know he's hungry until he starts acting weird. He's like, oh, yeah, I didn't eat. Oh. Because he's been starving himself since he was a kid. He's been wrestling since he was a little kid.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Wow. So my point is. He's been resting since he was a little kid. Wow. So my point is. You just become accustomed to that signal. Yeah. So I think, like, if you have these genes, you're more likely, something in your environment is more likely to, it doesn't mean you're going to have anorexia, but it means you're way more likely to, you know, depending on what you're exposed to. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:56:39 You know? Yeah. Because I wasn't born with depression. Right. You know what I'm saying? But something happened, and some people are just more likely. Yeah. Oh, man, thank God.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Thank God I'm not. Yeah, I got to be grateful for where I am. Man, could you imagine having a fucked up relationship with food where it's like you don't want it? Oh, I would rather want it way too much. Yeah, I'd rather have to fight that. There's a lot of people that I know that are pretty obese that are food addicts, that are fun people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:16 They're great to eat with. They're having a ball. Yeah, they're having a great fucking time. It's like, yeah, it's bad for you, but at least you're enjoying yourself. Anorexia does not look like you're getting the enjoyment part the thing about like um like if you go to like a real italian restaurant like come on eat they just want to stuff you and everybody's drinking wine and everyone's laughing and having a good time like that's how italians like to eat they go hard and no no anorexic is dangerous.
Starting point is 00:57:45 You know? Where it's like, you can't, no chance of winning. At least a fat motherfucker can fall on you or grab you. Yeah, there's fat people that can fight. Yeah. Like, if you that skinny, you ain't got no chance. You have zero chance. You have no muscles.
Starting point is 00:57:57 There's nothing. You're just a skeleton coming at you like fucking Pirates of the Caribbean. Like a leg kick might kill you. Oh, yeah. Snap your femur. Oh, you could kill that girl if you kicked her Pirates of the Caribbean. Like a leg kick might kill you. Oh, yeah. Snap your femur. Oh, you could kill that girl if you kicked her in the stomach. Oh. 100%. You can be careful before my special come out.
Starting point is 00:58:17 You could kill a regular person if their back was against a wall and you kicked them in the stomach. You could destroy their organs. Oh yeah, for sure. Would they like a turning sidekick to the body?
Starting point is 00:58:30 Especially if you get them like right, right. No, you would get them right in the fucking center, like right in here. Oh,
Starting point is 00:58:35 like a Spartan kick? You just smack, no, you'd use a spinning back kick. That's the most powerful kick. A turning sidekick, it's called. It's my specialty.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Oh yeah, so i'm about to say the ones i've seen you doing videos yeah yeah but but most people can't pull that off with no no no i'm just saying that there's human beings that are capable of killing someone with a kick oh yeah you don't see it in an mma fight because first of all these guys are heavily muscled and generally kicks don't land perfectly flush and your back is not to a wall where you absorb all the impact but if your back was to a wall and there was nothing, like a concrete wall, there's nothing stopping the impact and someone, like, really fucking smashed you, you had a real good chance of bleeding internally.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yeah. A real good chance of having fractured ribs that go into your lungs and all kinds of shit. I'm blown away when I see a UFC fighter take one of those kicks. Bro. You know? You know what the most painful shit is? The calf kicks. And I'm saying this anecdotally.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I've never been kicked in the calf, really. Not hard. Not like by a UFC fighter in a fight. But just getting massaged in your calves fucking hurts like hell. These guys are kicking each other in the calf, and it deadens your calf where you can't walk right. So then you've got to kind of play it off. So mostly you're moving on your other leg. And you see it in guys.
Starting point is 00:59:52 You see it, like, right away. Like, Poiton, Alex Pejeta, he's the best I've ever seen at that. I've ever seen. He's the best at it. The calf kick? He's so sneaky. And Izzy, he got Izzy in the first fight, and he was getting Izzy in the second fight with it. The calf kick? He's so sneaky. He got Izzy in the first fight and he was getting Izzy in the second fight with it
Starting point is 01:00:07 and Izzy's like, god damn, this motherfucker's getting me again. Like right before he cracked him. He was catching him in that leg and he was deadening that leg and that's what fucked Izzy up in the first fight. He couldn't get away from him. His leg wouldn't move. He had kicked his left calf so many times. The whole thing was just useless.
Starting point is 01:00:24 And Izzy's just a great athlete So he's moving around on it, and you can't tell that much. What's the worst? Is the worst kick you ever received the calf kick? No the worst kick I've ever received is the kicks to the body. Oh You get kicked to the body man you kicked in the head is horrible You know you get knocked out and get rocked getting kicked in the body like getting kicked in the liver especially holy shit man your whole body shuts down being knocked out doesn't hurt though you know what i mean oh it hurts no i mean no but what i mean is you just you just wake up you don't feel the pain like i'm sure you feel right you want to do something right but like But like. Liver shots. You remember when.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Tank. Bernard Hopkins. Yeah. Tank's a good one. Tank's a good one. When he hit Ryan Davis. Ryan Garcia. Yeah. Or Ryan.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia. Gervonta is a murderous puncher, man. But I was going to say when Oscar De La Hoya fought Bernard Hopkins. Bernard Hopkins. You know, Bernard Hopkins. Bernard Hopkins was too big.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Oscar was past his prime. Bernard was still in the fucking. I mean, even though he's older, Bernard was probably in his 40s when that fight happened. That's when he was the sharpest, though. It's crazy. Bernard, you know, I asked Terrence Crawford about that, and he said one of the things is probably that Bernard was in prison, and during that prison time, he didn't abuse his body.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Like, he didn't get beat up. He didn't have all the, but he was training and learning. And then he also developed this insane discipline when he was in prison. He's like, I am never coming back here. I'm never coming back here. And they said to him, we'll see you, like, after you got – you never seen me. Well, that's the thing, man. This is it.
Starting point is 01:02:00 This is – I don't know how old Bernard – there it is. There's the body shot. Let me see that again. it is there's the body shot let me see that again oh date to the body bernard was so good i just watched the i re-watched bernard versus kelly pavlik the other day and i think bernard was in his 40s in that fight too and they everybody counted bernard out that was after kelly pavlik docked out jermaine taylor you can accomplish so much out of spite. Spite?
Starting point is 01:02:26 Oh, yeah. Yeah, the will. So many of the things I've overcome have been from spite. Yeah. When my dad dropped me, when he dropped me off to go to boot camp,
Starting point is 01:02:33 he was like, I'll see you in a couple weeks. Whoa. And that is what made me not quit. Interesting. I was like, never, never. I will not give him
Starting point is 01:02:41 the satisfaction because he was right. I had trouble with people telling me what to do and stuff like that. But I was like, oh, no. Ain't no way I'm going back home. No way. Fuck no.
Starting point is 01:02:52 I'll endure whatever just to win, just to show you. Bernard was world class when he was 50. Yeah, yeah. He probably still boxed up the average person. Oh, yeah. Oh, the average person's dead for sure. But, I mean, that guy, like, what? And also clean living his entire life, organic food, no fucking around,
Starting point is 01:03:13 no drugs, no alcohol, no nothing. Yeah. He was always in shape, always in shape, never got fat, never got big in between fights at all, always running, always hitting the bag, never got out of shape. Not for a minute. Not for a second. You could have called Bernard Hopkins on a Tuesday and said, you got a fight on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:03:31 And be like, how much? Oh, yeah, yeah. You know? I mean, he was always ready. He was just so defensively responsible. Like, his defense was impeccable. He was sharp. I mean, Philly produced a lot of—
Starting point is 01:03:43 Oh, my God. Philly produced a lot of killers. Yeah, God. Philly produced a lot of killers. Yeah, man. And I don't know why that is specifically. Tough neighborhoods. Yeah. Tough neighborhoods produce killers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:52 It's true. It's true. Come on, Brownsville. Every now and then, though, you get like a rich kid, like a prince or something like that. Oh, Prince Nassim, huh, man? I don't know. Was he really a prince? I don't think he was really a prince.
Starting point is 01:04:02 I don't think he was really a prince. No, he was really a prince. But every now and then, you get like a spoiled kid that got your hands. Every now and then. Yeah, I mean, there's people that violate the rules. Yeah, you get the Ivy League champ. It's so rare. Nobody wants that, though.
Starting point is 01:04:15 They want somebody that's been through some shit. They want Tyson. Yeah, they want my Tyson. They want somebody that came from the depths. Someone with no family. Someone who was raised by a guardian who happened to be a hypnotist and also a boxing trainer. Yeah, that's Prince Nassim. He came out of the flying carpet.
Starting point is 01:04:36 How amazing was that, bro? People forgot about Nassim. And his style was amazing, man. Watch some of the fighting. This is fun, but find some of his fighting. Because his style was so crazy. He had his hands down by his knees, and he would, like, bend at the waist and just wing punches at you. He reminded me of, who was the dude we were talking about the other day that had that weird style?
Starting point is 01:04:59 The Drunken Master. Oh, yes. Oh, my God. What was his name? Look at Nafseem. Look at him dancing around. I mean, look at that. How do you handle that?
Starting point is 01:05:11 And the guy can punch. And he had big legs. And his power came from his legs. He would, like, punch with his whole body. And people forgot, man. He was really good. And he was so popular. I mean, he was all over television back then, man.
Starting point is 01:05:28 So unusual. His interviews were too long, though. He had like a 20-minute. Oh, no, no, no. It was great. It's great because now we can go back and watch it. But, dude, he was fucking people up. So he had this crazy style, but he also had murderous power.
Starting point is 01:05:43 I think his son's fighting now. Emmanuel Augustus? Yeah, Emmanuel Augustus. Yes. The drunken man. Yeah. That's him now. Now he's a heavyweight.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Oh, Prince Nassim's a heavyweight? No, he's not fighting anymore. He's eating a lot of food. That's him on the right. Oh, what? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, he's one of them 85%.
Starting point is 01:06:04 He's got that gene. For real. What is Emmanuel Augustus? Go to Emmanuel Augustus highlights. Emmanuel was different, though, because Emmanuel, instead of, I mean, it was a lot of, like, hands down moving around, but it was, like, smoother. Emmanuel was like he was dancing with you, like literally dancing. And it's like he would punch,
Starting point is 01:06:28 he would throw a punch when you least expect it. There was no rhythm to it. Floyd said that he was the hardest fighter he ever fought. He said the hardest fight he ever had was this guy. Because like, look how he fights. He's just moving around. It's like that dude was dancing before the fight started. He was dancing during the fight.
Starting point is 01:06:47 And he was really slick defensively. So, like, this style was, like, very disconcerting because he could move so good and he was kind of clowning you. So that fucks with your head. Yeah. I mean, if you see somebody, if you see somebody, oh, he would throw a couple punches at me, and I'm like, I'm good, man. I'm full fit. Well, that's where leg kicks come into play, son. Oh.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Womp. Give him a couple of those. Womp. Put your hands up, move forward. Womp. A few of those, and all that shit's gone. That's why it's wild to hear. I forget that guy, that bodybuilder, that was like, I could beat.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Bradley Martin. Like, I could beat. Mighty Mouse. Just a professional fighter in a fight it's like yeah come on man well he's also very smart and he's doing this for clicks oh he knows yeah Bradley's a smart dude but I did see him actually spar with a with a black belt jujitsu guy that was his weight you know I mean obviously he got fucked up who did that who sparred with him I don't remember I don't remember whose name it was,
Starting point is 01:07:46 but I just watched it a couple days ago. Somebody did spar with him. Who is it? I've seen it a few times. It doesn't say in the info. Yeah, I mean, look, Bradley
Starting point is 01:07:54 is a super athlete. Oh yeah, here it is, right here. I mean, he's a gigantic athlete. I don't know who that is he's sparring with. Where is Bradley? He's in the blue.
Starting point is 01:08:03 He's in, yeah, he's in the, that's him? Yeah. Is this a long time ago? No, no, this is recent. This was two years ago. He was done recently,
Starting point is 01:08:11 I think, but. No, this ain't the video I watched. So he's, it looks in this video like he's just learning stuff. No,
Starting point is 01:08:19 the video I watched was recent and he was getting fucked up. He got real humble. But again, they weren't in a street fight when like, kicks and punches and everything's on the table. Right. So at least, but when it comes to jiu-jitsu, at least Bradley's done this, right? So Bradley has done some rolling.
Starting point is 01:08:36 And yeah, he's getting manhandled by a black belt, but we all would. Right, right. But at least he's got some grappling experience. So I'm assuming he's done that. He's probably done multiple classes. So he probably got some grappling experience. So I'm assuming if he's done that, he's probably done multiple classes, so he probably has some understanding of positions. But he's probably never been in a real... You know what it is to me?
Starting point is 01:08:53 People that have never been in a fight, what they don't understand is you could do all the fucking training you want to, but if you ain't never got hit for real, your ability to take damage or avoid damage is most of winning a fight. It's a lot of it. So it's like that one, you know, like the type of motherfucker like Izzy that can take a leg kick from Poetan and keep fighting. Most people don't got that in them.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Right. You know, you hit me with one leg kick and I'm out. Right. I'm out. And you are too. You haven't fought. If you've never been in a fight, all you're doing is imagining. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:29 It's like you don't know how you're going to react to getting hit in the fucking sternum. So this is him rolling. Different video. Same guy. I think he's wrestling the same guy, though. Wrestling Steve. Winner keeps the truck. Oh, he's getting manhandled.
Starting point is 01:09:41 But that's just to be expected. It doesn't matter how big you are. I mean, that guy's big, too. If you're grappling with a black belt in jiu-jitsu, you're going to get manhandled. But that's just to be expected. It doesn't matter how big you are. I mean, that guy's big too. If you're grappling with a black belt in jiu-jitsu, you're going to get manhandled. That's what that guy does every day. You know, if you play chess with a guy who's a chess master, you're going to get fucked up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:54 I wish I had the money to put up to actually have him do it. Oh, he gets triangle. The MMA fight with Mighty Mouse. Well, you don't want an MMA fight because if he picks him up and slams him on the ground, he can fuck Mighty Mouse up. I don't know if he would be able to do that. Mighty Mouse is so technical. He knows everything. But the size difference is so great.
Starting point is 01:10:14 All it would take was one slip up. It didn't get a hold of him and spike him on the ground. We kind of saw that happen to— Rose Namajunas got knocked out like that. Right, right. Yeah. And she was piecing her up before that. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:10:26 She was. She was. Yeah, I don't think she's been... She hasn't really been the same since. Well, she broke her finger in the first round of her last fight. And, you know, people are, like, criticizing her, saying she needs to go down to 125. Maybe. But you can't discount that her finger was broken in the very first round like that's a giant
Starting point is 01:10:46 factor man her finger was fucked up so she fought three rounds against a very very tough legitimate flyweight it was much bigger than her the girl looked jacked but rose in my mind is one of the greatest straw weights of all time and that's where she should be. Yeah, agreed. She's amazing at 115. I know it sucks to make 115, but that's the big fight is if she really wants to keep fighting, she wants to go back down to flyweight, you mean there's Tatiana Suarez down there, but Zhang Weili, she beat her twice.
Starting point is 01:11:19 So she knocked her out, and she beat her in a decision. So they fought twice. Yeah, but you know what, though? That's a different Jean-Louis Lee she's going to go down there and fight. Yeah, because she locked in. Oh, she's locked in. She was always dangerous as fuck, but I don't think— She keeps getting better.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Yeah. It's been a couple years since Rose seen her. I don't think that's the same fighter she fought before. Zhang Weili is a tank, man. She comes blasting you with kicks and punches. Her grappling's sensational. Ground and pound is vicious. She's got a killer instinct.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I mean, she knocked out Ioana Janjacek with a spinning back fist. Like, she's a beast, man. She's a fucking beast. And I love me some Rose, but I don't, too. I don't think she want that smoke. Well, who knows, man? Like I said, she beat her twice. I think if they fought again, you know, if Rose gets her finger fixed and drops back down the flyweight, that's a fight I'd like to see. Oh, I'm definitely going to watch.
Starting point is 01:12:18 That's a fight I'd like to see. Because I remember when Rose won the title. Mm-hmm. That was one of the best cards in UFC history. You remember that? Three titles changed hands that night. It was Rose won the belt, and then who the fuck else was on that card?
Starting point is 01:12:33 It was two other title fights on that card. I remember DC just yelling out, Thug Rose! Oh, yeah. Thug Rose! And that's when I didn't really know much. I was just like, oh, I'm picking her. She looked, and everybody was like, what?
Starting point is 01:12:45 I was like, yeah, yeah. And she won. I was like, oh, who is this lady? When she crocked Ioana with that left hook, I was like, oh, my God. She did it. She beat the boogeyman. She beat the boogeywoman. But she was the boogeywoman, too, man.
Starting point is 01:12:57 She was lighting people up. If you ever saw, if you saw Ioana Jacek in her prime, like, you want to see a wild beatdown? Do Ioana Jacek, Juliana Payne, no, who was it? It wasn't Juliana. It was, who did she fight? Can I see her record real quick? This was the night that the fights happened. Jessica.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Jessica Panay. That's who it was. Go Rosna fights happened. Jessica. Jessica Panay. That's who it was. Go Rosnawn and Eunice, Jessica Panay. I mean, not Rosnawn and Eunice. Ioana Janjic. Yeah. The highlights. This is perfect. This is when she was the boogie woman,
Starting point is 01:13:37 dude. Look at that face. Look at that face, dude. And this is like when she's multiple time world muay thai champion who now was in mma and so you got to see like a level of striking that you just never seen from women's mma before when she came out of the scene was her and valentina simshenko were like whoa this is some next levellevel striking. Just super technical. You know, I mean, her fucking technique was fantastic.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Stuff's takedowns go towards the end where you really see the beatdown. So she starts putting it on her. She starts putting it on her at the end of the second round. Like, look at this. I mean, Jessica Benet is just getting battered. Just getting battered. And Ioana's just beating her down. Like, look at this i mean jessica panacea's getting battered just getting battered and yoana's just beating her down like look at this i mean this was this was when everyone was really scared of yoana because she was just so aggressive and she would talk so much shit and
Starting point is 01:14:37 get in your face the weigh-ins and now she sees jessica's just busted up and she's just piecing her up. And at the end, the final barrage is horrific, man. Go to the final barrage, and she has her up against the cage. She just starts un-fucking-loading, man. How did the ref not stop this? Oh, that's it right there. Yeah, how are you complaining, girl? Bro. I mean, she's complaining because she's a warrior.
Starting point is 01:15:04 She wants to fight, but that woman was the best. Yeah, it's like your corner should have thrown that towel in for her. Look at her. Let me hear what she's saying. What is she screaming? Has delivered the Polish power. The strawweight champion. She's screaming, who's next?
Starting point is 01:15:24 If you're a 115-pound woman, you're like, fuck that. Yeah. Fuck. Fuck getting smashed like that. What happened to her, though? Is she gone? She just retired. Yeah, she lost to Zhang Weili, and then she retired.
Starting point is 01:15:39 That was her last hurrah. She had a lot of wars, man, and those, they pay a price, you know? I mean, Amanda Nunes just retired. She retired she's the goat she had to retire she said her legs aren't working right her legs have nerve damage she said from kicking too much ass oh right right yeah no i get that she retires the goat don't don't you know like you said we never get to see fighters really retire they always it's always too late. It's never early enough. There's very few that retire at the right time.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Very few. I don't know any athletes that don't have some kind of long-term injury that's never going. Yeah. You know? Mm-hmm. Especially combat sports. Especially fighters, yeah. It's just so brutal on your body.
Starting point is 01:16:23 I mean, you're literally practicing breaking people's bodies, and just the practice is brutal. So you're getting all this damage just from practice, and then you're having cage fights with people that are going 100% trying to kill you. Man, that's why every athlete, when you see them in an interview, and they go, yeah, I'm
Starting point is 01:16:40 healthier than I've ever been, it's like, no, you're not, motherfucker. You're never gonna, you know? It's like, I know that's what you're supposed to say. Hey, this is the best I've ever been. It's like, no, you're not, motherfucker. You never, you know? It's like, I know that's what you're supposed to say. That's the best I've ever felt. No way. Well, some of them have pulled it off. It's amazing how some guys just don't get injured that much. It's real weird.
Starting point is 01:16:55 LeBron James. Well, he spends a lot of money, though, on just maintaining his health, just maintaining his, like, just massages and physical therapy and like he treats his body like it's a pit crew at a race stop you know like he's in a race car and like that's the moneymaker yeah take care of that might be the most durable superstar that's ever played any sport so you very very rarely get injured i can only remember him being like i mean he's never been seriously injured like he had to miss a whole season or nothing like that and that's never happened wow and i think
Starting point is 01:17:29 and i i think the first time he really got hurt for real was like recently in year in year 18 or something wow yeah how old is he now the 39 39 he may have needed foot surgery in the offseason but i don't think they're going to say that. Oh, are they going to talk about it? Like, he just started getting injured at a time where, like, most people have had multiple surgeries by now. Bro, they probably get him the best stem cells. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:01 They fly him straight to Ukraine. Yeah, bro. No, they fly him to the jungle and knock a child out in the jungle right there and just take their shit. I mean, what kind of, if you have, if you're of that kind of resources, like you're a super athlete, the doctors that you're in contact with
Starting point is 01:18:17 must be just top. Because if I was a superstar in the NBA, the first thing I would do is call Magic Johnson and be like, where your doctor's at? Right. I want them working on every problem I got. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Because remember the whole HIV thing? Nobody had heard of nobody beating HIV before him. Right. Yeah. So it was like, that's the first doctor I want to see. I wonder what medication he took, if he took anything. You know, I think he- Back in the day when everybody
Starting point is 01:18:45 was taking AZT and dying. Yeah, well, I think by the time he had it, AZT wasn't the main thing they was giving you. But also, I think he had the resources to mitigate all the side effects. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:00 But I don't know. But you know what's funny? My uncle was HIV positive. He lived for a long time. Jeff Scott don't know. But you know what's funny? My uncle was HIV positive. He lived for a long time. Jeff Scott was HIV positive. Right, right. Yeah, and that dude. Now, see, that's a survivor.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Because Jeff Scott had it when it was grids. Right. When it was gay-related disease. The key weapon beginning was a regimen of three or four antiretroviral drugs, collectively known as antiretroviral therapy or art so it was after the azt days they told me that the three drug combination was going to save my life and they were right huh there you go so why they wouldn't give it to everybody maybe they didn't have it yet yeah or maybe it was just like maybe it was just super expensive maybe yeah yeah maybe
Starting point is 01:19:42 insurance didn't cover it yeah but now but now. You know, it's so funny. Isn't it wild how now we. No one's scared of it. It's not that. Well, I still don't want to get it. But it's not a death sentence no more. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:55 It's still going to significantly diminish how many people will fuck you, though. Yeah. Yeah. Especially if you're honest. You got to be honest. Yeah, about that one. You got to be honest about that one. I don't're honest. You got to be honest. Yeah, about that one. You got to be honest about that one. I don't think you, you know, if it's not a life-threatening thing, I don't think you got to be honest about everything.
Starting point is 01:20:12 That was the scariest thing about AIDS is that there's a thing that you get from having sex that could kill you, but you're going to want to have sex. So, well, be careful. Oh, yeah. Be careful. You don't want to die. Whenever it's the most dangerous to fuck, that's gonna die whenever it's the most dangerous to fuck that's people be fucking the most that didn't stop nobody from fucking nope no that's not for a second that's why it's wild to me when politicians shot us when they try to legislate morality was like hey you
Starting point is 01:20:36 gotta stop people from fucking yeah and not only that you're not gonna stop fucking speaking with burr you know me I told you Mexico just passed just legalized abortion nationwide. Yeah, we were talking about that last night. Mexico's ahead of us. Yeah. In social. Well, also, they recognize an opportunity for tourism.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Oh, yeah. I didn't think about that. A hundred percent. They already have a stem cell tourism. They have an Ibogaine uh therapy tourism yeah i gotta visit mexico and legitly instead of like just the border towns yeah mexico is a beautiful place yeah it's a beautiful place it's but it's just like it's kind of fucked because of america because of american drug laws like american drug laws have propped up the cartel just like prohibition propped up the mob. Do you think the cartel is paying lobbyists to keep drugs illegal here?
Starting point is 01:21:33 If I was a cartel, I would do that. That would be the smart move. If you could get a hold of them. Yeah. If you could call them up. My friend, what do we have to do? That cartel shit, it blows my mind that we were helping the cartels move drugs into the country while simultaneously enforcing drugs being illegal. Who's we?
Starting point is 01:21:58 Who's doing that? I mean, just us as a country. The CIA was letting cocaine come in. Yeah. a country. Like the CIA was letting cocaine come in. Yeah. But at the same time the DEA was arresting
Starting point is 01:22:10 drug traffickers. Right. How come? What is that? Jamie Chucky one of them? I think I think the cocaine was how the CIA was paying for certain stuff because it was money they didn't have to be in the federal budget.
Starting point is 01:22:27 You know what I mean? Well, that's definitely the case with Oliver North. Right. That was the case with Freeway Ricky Ross in Compton in South Central LA. And we found out about it because of this guy, Michael Rupert, who was on the podcast back in the day. Michael Rupert was in that documentary, Collapse. Did you ever see that documentary? It's a documentary about the collapse of peak oil and societal collapse because we're so dependent upon fossil fuels.
Starting point is 01:22:59 It turned out to not be correct, what he was predicting. But what he was right about was how dependent we are on fossil fuels. And he was detailing the supply chain. So he's sitting there, the whole documentary is him sitting there in this room on a folding chair, just smoking cigarettes and just telling you why all these things are a problem because they're all connected. And it's, it's a very compelling documentary. Well, Michael R rupert was a narcotics officer in la and he caught the cia selling drugs in south central la and then exposed it on a hearing on cnn at like this big like town hearing you ever seen this jamie pulled up it's wild he was a really interesting guy last time i saw him he gave me mushrooms how did they how did they catch him how did he catch this
Starting point is 01:23:52 guy well he was a narcotics officer so he was arresting people for selling joy here to play this i am a former los angeles police narcotics detective and i work south central los angeles and i will tell you director deutsch em emphatically and unequivocally... Can you speak further into the mic, sir? These mics don't seem to be... I will tell you, Director Deutsch, as a former Los Angeles police narcotics detective, that the agency has dealt drugs throughout this country for a long time. All right. All right. I...
Starting point is 01:24:35 All right. Obviously, that is an answer for a lot of you. Now, can you please... I refer... All right. Now, can you please... I refer to... Wait.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Wait, wait, wait. Wait a minute. So that guy at the table is from the CIA. Wait a minute here. Wait a minute. If you don't like what's going on here, please leave now. No, no, no, leave now because there are others who do want to hear what's going on in this room. Will you please take your seats? I will come back to you specific agency operations known as Amadeus, Pegasus and Watchtower. I have Watchtower documents heavily redacted by the agency. I was personally exposed to CIA operations and recruited by CIA personnel who attempted to recruit me in the late 70s to become involved in protecting agency drug operations in this country.
Starting point is 01:25:47 I have been trying to get this out for 18 years and I have the evidence. My question for you is very specific, sir. If in the course of the IG's investigations and Fred Hitz's work, you come across evidence of severely criminal activity and it's classified, will you use that classification to hide the criminal activity or will you tell the American people the truth? All right, you want to hear the response first from Congressman Julian Dixon and then from the Director. The Director of the CIA.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Wait. Wait a minute. From your... I'm sorry, sir. I will allow the Director to speak first and then Congressman Julian Dixon. If you have information about CIA illegal activity in drugs, you should immediately bring that information to wherever you want. But let me suggest three places. The Los Angeles Police Department. Wow. Now you're playing in my face. I am sorry, others want to hear this answer. I am sorry, others want to hear this answer. It is your choice, the Los Angeles Police Department, the Inspector General, or office of one of your congresspersons from this...
Starting point is 01:27:29 You have not gotten the mic yet. You are not. But wait a minute, then. Don't speak out of turn. Let me say something else. If this information turns up wrongdoing, if it turns up wrongdoing, we will bring the people to justice and make them accountable.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Bring the people to justice and make them accountable. Just imagine you think there's even a possibility that's true. If it's true, I've heard rumblings. Hey, bring it to one of the offices where we have people that work for us. Yeah, they'll definitely take care of it appropriately. Right. I'm surprised they let him live. Yeah, he was worried about it, too.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Well, they, but they know, see, they know that if they kill you, it makes what you said seem true. If they let you live, they can always accuse you of being crazy. He wound up taking his own life. Where? Yeah. Yeah. His health was failing him. He's getting older and it's just like that life is very the life of exposing
Starting point is 01:28:47 extreme corruption all the time and being right about it it's very scary it's a horrible life you gotta be willing to kill a motherfucker yeah
Starting point is 01:28:56 it's just a horrible life and to go from being a guy who's a narcotics officer in LA and discovers that and just gets dragged down this rabbit hole. Did you see the movie Collapse, though?
Starting point is 01:29:07 It's pretty interesting. See if you've got a trailer. Yeah. It's like no CIA agent has gone to prison for cocaine trafficking. Weird. And that's how it gets here.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Weird. That's crazy. Weird. Yeah. Freeway Ricky Ross, he's been on the podcast a couple times, too, and he's the guy
Starting point is 01:29:23 who was selling it in South Central Los Angeles. He didn't even know what he was a part of. He was funding. Maybe the greatest preventable holocaust in the history of planet Earth. I have 30 years of experience as an investigative journalist. I've broken major scandals. Going out to try and map how the world really worked
Starting point is 01:29:43 as opposed to the way we were told it worked. Our map has proven deadly accurate. Economic predictions, we had it so right. In 2006, we said, get out of debt right now. Check your mortgage carefully. We issued a whole series of warnings. There will be nothing like we have ever seen before. Everything that we said was going to happen is taking place right now. Gold prices, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the stock market.
Starting point is 01:30:09 It's not that Bernie Madoff was a pyramid scheme. The whole economy is a pyramid scheme. Of course I've been called a conspiracy theorist. But I don't deal in conspiracy theory. I deal in conspiracy fact. The mortal blow to human industrialized civilization will happen when oil prices spike and nobody can afford to buy that oil, and everything will just shut down. Unlike the Great Depression, we do not have infinite resources. Nothing grows forever, there is a cycle. Birth, growth, maturation, decline, and death. Cars don't run. Mail stops getting delivered. Planes don't fly. Law enforcement stops working.
Starting point is 01:30:54 This is all part of the collapse. If you're in a camp and a bear attacks, you don't have to be faster than the bear. You only have to be faster than the slowest camper. The challenge being faced by the human race now is either evolve or perish, grow up or die. You have to believe, not hope, not pray, that there's a way out of it, and you're going to find it. He's basically a prepper. He was. He's basically telling you, start growing your own food. Get something that you can treat water with.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Oh, yeah. This is a fragile society we live in that's completely depending on us sucking blood out of the earth to pump everything. That's what we're doing. We're sucking the blood of the earth to pump everything that's what we're doing we're sucking the blood of the earth that we use to make plastic and jet fuel yeah silicon i mean think about all the different plastic parts that are just in electronics it's oil you know it's what part of the reason why we couldn't really, like, why the sanctions on Russia didn't really stick.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Like, we hit Russia with the most economic sanctions that anyone's ever been hit with. And it's barely phased them because they sell oil. They sell oil. They're the number two, I think, the number two oil supplier in the world and then maybe
Starting point is 01:32:23 number one natural gas supplier. And China buys – China like needs them. What? And so does Europe. Who got hurt most by the pipeline shutting down? At first it was Europe. It was Europe? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Yeah, because they – And now are they just buying gas from Russia? Europe? Yeah. No, now they're buying. I think their gas comes from us. Mostly us. No, that was from Russia to Europe, right?
Starting point is 01:32:52 Right. From Russia to Europe. Europe was their number one customer. And someone blew it up. Someone. Well, the sanctions made Europe stop buying gas from Russia. I don't know who blew up the pipe or why. Well, probably us. Yeah, they say it's. I don't know who blew up the pipe or why. Well, I was—
Starting point is 01:33:05 Probably us. Yeah, they say it's us. That's what Seymour Hersh said. Yeah, I mean, come on. Yeah. We probably blew up that plane, too. That had the— Progression in it?
Starting point is 01:33:15 Yeah. You think so? I think so. I wouldn't be surprised if we—I mean, it's either Putin or us. You know, it wasn't an accident. Yeah, most likely. When a guy's about to surge Moscow with tanks,
Starting point is 01:33:29 and he turns around and goes back, he doesn't have much time to live. Yeah, you gotta take that man out. Yeah, that guy, he's dangerous. I mean, I don't know what he thought. His whole leadership was on that plane, which is also crazy. Yeah. It's pretty wild. The vice president don't fly with the president? Right. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty wild.
Starting point is 01:33:46 The vice president don't fly with the president. Right. That's crazy. It is crazy. Along with the third, fourth, and fifth person in line, they never on the same plane. That's insane. Imagine if both planes went down. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:57 I wonder, is the vice president's plane Air Force Two? Is that what they call it? I don't know. Probably. Makes sense, right? Yeah, I think so. Well, it turns out the Air Force One is whatever plane the president's on. Oh.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Yep. You know, it's not, I mean, it is a specific plane, I guess. Maybe there's two or three of them. Yeah. Air Force Two is any held, call sign held by any United States Air Force aircraft carrying the vice president. There is something absolutely hilarious about Trump's name on his plane. Just Trump. Oh, he uses the Trump plane for his presidential shit?
Starting point is 01:34:30 No, I mean, he does it now. He flies around the Trump plane now. I'm sure he's got more than one plane, too, but he's got a giant-ass one, like a commercial plane. What's the point of that? He's got a lot of room in there. How big is Trump's plane? Isn't it like a 767 or something crazy like that? Trump Force One is a 757.
Starting point is 01:34:49 757. Oh, they call it Trump Force One? That's a big-ass plane. What does it look like inside? The pictures of the inside of Trump's plane? I bet there's a lot of dudes that compete. Like who's got the most baller interior in your private chat. Just imagine.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Imagine eating dinner with Trump. He wants his WAG UA5 well done. That's what it looks like. Looks like a normal jet. It's $100 million. Damn. So he's got like a little desk there. That's like just a big-ass private jet.
Starting point is 01:35:30 It looks very nice. Yeah. Big screen in the back. This is Air Force One. Air Force One's got like a fucking U.S. office. Is there really like a pod in Air Force One where the president can go in and parachute to the ground? I can't guarantee there is. There's some way.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Get him in the pod. Imagine being in the Secret Service knowing you're going to die and you got to get Biden in that pod. Yeah. Well, knowing you might have to go to prison with Trump. Like, how's that going to work? Who's volunteering for that? You got to spend some of your days in prison because they got to be with him no matter what. Even if he's in prison?
Starting point is 01:36:06 Even if he's in prison. They have to protect him until he dies. So if he goes to prison, Secret Service has to protect him in prison? Yeah, for the rest of your life. If you were ever president, you get that protection forever. Is that true? Well, the thing is, it's never happened before. No president's ever gone to prison.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Right. So I think they would avoid sending him to prison just for that complication. It was just in the movie Air Force One. What? It was just a thing for the movie. Oh, the pod, the escape pod. Yeah, like Harrison Ford in Air Force One. But you don't think there's really a way?
Starting point is 01:36:34 Because, bro, you know what? I just found out that there's really another secret subway system in the Capitol. What? Yeah, like the politicians use, the president uses. That's why you never see Obama walking from the White House to Congress. He just pops up to Congress because he can just get, there's like a, wow. It's tiny too. The political elite subway system.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Yep. They must feel like ballers. Oh my God. Knowing you're running the country. This is it? Yeah, it's just, it's small, and they're like see-through carts, and they all see each other
Starting point is 01:37:07 when they're going from room to room also. Was this in House of Cards? I think it has been. Yeah, it has been, but also he killed people in the regular subway. Yeah, he killed someone in the regular subway, right? Yeah. That was a great fucking show.
Starting point is 01:37:19 It was so good. Such a good show. And it made you wonder, like, okay, I mean, obviously this is fiction, but how much is real? How much is accurate? How much of it is based on what people know about how psychotic? All those things have happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:36 It probably didn't happen to the people. They probably changed the names and situations and stuff, but they definitely murdered people. For sure. and stuff, but they definitely murder people. For sure. Well, they certainly, I mean, if you just think about what they're willing to do in other countries that they know is not true, that it's going to cost lives. They'll sacrifice people left and right. They don't think about that at all.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Like, when you're talking about, say, drone strikes, you know, drone strikes are the ratio of innocent people that get killed by drones is like, it's crazy, crazy high. But you can justify that. Yeah. So if you can justify that,
Starting point is 01:38:10 of course you can justify taking out some asshole who's causing problems. Yeah. Especially if you, if you really a true believer. Like if you really, if you really thought
Starting point is 01:38:19 that you were right and everyone else is wrong about like the way, the direction America should go in. Yeah. Wouldn't you do anything in your power to make sure your vision came to true? you were right and everyone else was wrong about the direction America should go in. Wouldn't you do anything in your power to make sure
Starting point is 01:38:27 your vision came to true? Yeah. So they're willing to do anything and some of them just want power but most of them
Starting point is 01:38:35 I think to them they genuinely believe like they believed their bullshit long ago so they genuinely believe that they're doing what's best
Starting point is 01:38:43 and the other side is trying to destroy everything. So they'll believe that they're doing what's best and the other side is trying to destroy everything So they'll cheat they'll kill still Yeah Especially if you consider how every single ruling class throughout history has done that to their people They've all done it and they've all assassinated each other like the idea that that stopped now Yeah, and think about the fact we like they fact, they want their grip on power so badly that no matter how many signs of dementia and deterioration that are exhibited by Joe Biden or Mitch McConnell or Dianne Feinstein, they just, no one's calling for him to resign. No.
Starting point is 01:39:21 The motherfucker froze up. Twice. How is that acceptable to anybody it's like like in if you're having a facetime call with someone in bad service right just freeze up like mitch mcconnell was getting like the update he was like he was back buffering i don't know he's just really old and then they got and old. And then they get the federal doctors to say, oh, it wasn't a stroke. What the fuck was it then? It wasn't a stroke. His brain short-circuited.
Starting point is 01:39:51 It didn't bleed. Just shut off parts of it. But it was something that means you shouldn't be making major decisions. You can go sit your ass down. The face he made, like, what kind of hell have I found myself in at 80 years old? What have I done? There's no joy left in my life. He's like, I'm not going anywhere.
Starting point is 01:40:13 The Kentucky Republican said he would finish his term as leader, which runs through 2024, and in the Senate, where he was elected to serve through 2026. Of course he is. Why shouldn't he? I got news for you, Mitch. You're not going to make it that long, bro. Well, maybe he wants to die out there. Yeah, those freezers are going to get longer and longer and longer.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Yeah. Yeah, until something like, what I'm asking is, at what point do, even if you're on his side, at what point do you go, we can't go back? What has to happen for you to be like, he's done you start looking for other jobs immediately for sure like if you're in the staff you start looking for other jobs right now yeah i mean he i think he would have to do something that not even the shrewdest uh spin doctor could explain away see the thing is though the the problem is if he's loyal to his party and this is uh the problem with a lot of them
Starting point is 01:41:04 you you don't want to give up your seat. You don't because then there's another election, right? And then someone else comes in. That person could be a Republican. Well, the thing is, it's another election, but in most states, the governor of the state gets to appoint the replacement senator until the election. Really? to appoint the replacement senator until the election. Really? Yeah, and so Kentucky's one of those rare states where all their senators are on the right,
Starting point is 01:41:30 but their governor is a Democrat. Interesting. And I think they're trying to introduce legislation where the governor doesn't get to pick, like the same party gets to choose, because that's what they're afraid of. Of course. That's why they won't let D.C. be a state. That's why they won't let Puerto Rico be a state. Because it's automatically blue.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Right. You know? Right, right. D.C. has been blue forever. Right. But we don't, when we have a senator, we don't have voting power. He can't vote. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah, D.C. is the only city in America that has taxation without representation. Do you think the electoral college makes sense? Or do you think people should just be one person, one vote? That's tough. Because I understand the reasoning behind the electoral college. Because they didn't want the biggest states to just dominate choices for everyone. But I think that's just antiquated
Starting point is 01:42:28 now, man. Yeah, just for president? I don't even think it should go by state. It should just be straight up popular vote for the whole country. Maybe. Yeah, like when Hillary won the popular vote but Trump won the electoral college,
Starting point is 01:42:44 a lot of people were like well that's some bullshit yeah but that's some but were you only saying that because it was not to your benefit no you know i wasn't a hillary fan no like i thought about it and i was like that is some bullshit like if you win more more people want you and we're all together like what is this funky electoral college bullshit about and i get the what you just explained it makes sense but still part of me is like the fuck out of here with that yeah yeah yeah you're right get this like if you how much did she win by i think hillary won by a lot about a whole lot yeah like what is uh what was the margin of her victory in the overall votes
Starting point is 01:43:24 i think her overall votes were way higher yeah but see the other side of that though is to is like but if we go to only popular vote that means the small states basically don't count what do you think it would have been like if she won I think it would have been more the same from Obama but maybe a little more corporate. Mm, you know? There definitely have been less ladies with sock hats screaming in the streets. What is the number? Three million.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Wow. Almost three million. She beat him by almost three million votes in the popular vote. See? But he won most of the states. Yeah, 304 to 227 in electoral college. That's kind of crazy. Isn't that kind of crazy?
Starting point is 01:44:09 It's wild. It is kind of crazy. It's just weird. At the same time, though, the bigger states have the most votes. California is 55. That's nuts. That is nuts. California is so dangerous.
Starting point is 01:44:21 Well, it's the biggest state by population. So how many electoral votes you get is based on population? Yes. So it's like, eh. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. But even in that state, there's a lot of people outside of Los Angeles and outside of San Francisco that are red.
Starting point is 01:44:37 Right. If you drive up through Fresno, drive up that area, it's all farmers and shit like that. It's a very rural part of California that people forget about. I think the thing we really need to change is we need a parliamentary system so that it's not just two parties. That's a good idea. And also
Starting point is 01:44:55 we need to be able to take corporate money out. That's the craziest stat about California. Only five countries have a bigger GDP than California. Including America. Including the one it's in. Wow. So we're above France, India, Italy, and Brazil in California.
Starting point is 01:45:14 United Kingdom is just slightly more GDP than California. That's insane. There's so many people there, man. It makes sense. It's just like, what are they doing to that state? What are they doing? Between the homelessness and the smashing grabs
Starting point is 01:45:31 and the fucking defunding the police and the not arresting people for shoplifting and like what are you doing? Are you guys trying to ruin that state? It's Burning Man. The state slowly turning into Burning Man. it's way worse than burning man yeah it's mad max you know and i just i visited there recently and you know it is certain stuff that i miss you know because there's a certain feeling and nostalgia
Starting point is 01:45:58 about la you know yeah sure you get there you're like yeah this is la and then after a few it was like visiting family it's like after a few days i was like visiting family. It was like after a few days, I'm like, okay, I'm good. I remember why I left. Yeah. There's a lot of great stuff about L.A. Oh, man, yeah. But it's just not the same L.A. The way I describe it, it's like you got an ex-girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:46:14 She used to be really cool. And then you meet her a few years later and she's on meth and she works for the cartel. What happened? Right. What are you doing? She's got scars from stuffing, covering her titties. She's all fucked up. her titties like yeah well take care it's just uh we've all been there it's been you know it's been ravaged the city's been
Starting point is 01:46:35 ravaged yeah you know it's just a different place now it's a different place and i don't know what the fuck is ever going to turn that around other than some radical shifts in the way they run the government and then a massive uptick in doing something to mitigate crime. You got to do something in the community with police. They really have to go over how they're spending their money. Yeah, that too. Like how come you guys haven't done jack shit about this homeless problem? Like where's that money going?
Starting point is 01:47:04 Because there's big business in there. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. Yeah. When I was homeless and I was living in that shelter and I discovered that, because something occurred to me, because there's a certain amount of money they get just from the VA, right?
Starting point is 01:47:19 So because it was a veteran's homeless shelter, they get a grant from the VA, but they also get money from the state, money from the county, and money from the city. And when I found out how much all that money was, and the only reason I looked into it was because the food was shitty. The food was fucking terrible. And I'm like, wait a minute,
Starting point is 01:47:34 how much money are these motherfuckers getting? I did all the math, and I just estimated all their salaries, like overproposing, and when it was all left over, it was like millions of dollars left over. You did this math? Yeah so you did this math yeah i did this math because i was like we don't because we weren't it was a point where we didn't we weren't having we didn't have uh you know proper cleaning supplies we were
Starting point is 01:47:56 out of running out of toilet paper the food was like the bottom of the barrel just gross bullshit and it just didn't add up and then and then you know I was told well you don't understand the inner workings of nonprofits and all this other bullshit and then right after that the guy running the place relapsed like he came to work fucked up he he took he took the meth that he that he caught somebody else with. Because every now and then they would sweep through the rooms and check for drugs and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:48:30 And when they caught you, they would kick you out and take your drugs. And it was just his drug. And he was sitting there like, he came to work the next day. I'm talking about gone, Joe. Like a completely different person. One slip up, he was up all night on that meth and tried to come to work like it wasn't shit.
Starting point is 01:48:47 And we was all looking at him like, motherfucker, you are definitely not you. Wow. Yeah, it was crazy. And when that happened, then all of a sudden the CEO of the nonprofit or the CFO came by, you know, pulled up in a Phantom or a Bentley or something crazy. And then everything started changing. The food got more gourmet. You know, all of a sudden they got everybody new beds, like fucking memory foam mattresses in a homeless shelter. Because it was like they didn't want it to get looked into any further.
Starting point is 01:49:19 So they knew when people came around to ask us questions, they ain't want us complaining about shit. There's probably no oversight. Bro, there's no oversight. There's so much money. And when you look up that company, they'll tell you, because every nonprofit has to do earnings report, but there's no penalty for the numbers not adding up.
Starting point is 01:49:41 So you can look up how much money they brought in and how much money was unaccounted for. And they don't shut them down for that. It's just reported. So, you know, and these guys, millions and millions of dollars is always unaccounted for. You know? Nonprofit does not mean they're not making money.
Starting point is 01:49:58 Well, look what the Black Lives Matter ladies did. They went and bought houses. Really? Wait a minute, what do you mean Black Lives Matter? You don't know about that? No. Yeah, there was a bunch of houses that one of the ladies bought
Starting point is 01:50:09 for millions of dollars. You gotta watch out for people that are catering to you. Like, you belong to a certain group. You're like, outside of every fucking military base. Secret $6 million home has allies and critics skeptical of BLM's foundation finances.
Starting point is 01:50:32 So a group of Black Lives Matter leaders are facing questions about a purchase of a $6 million home in Southern California. It was bought with donations made to the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation. The transaction is raising questions about how the social justice organization is using donations. There's a bunch of investigations into that. And that's NPR, too. That's not even like a...
Starting point is 01:50:55 Yeah, it's not like some conspiracy theory website. Yeah, it's real. I told you. Look, outside every base, there's car dealerships and all kind of shit that's like, for veterans, owned by veterans, they're just there to fuck you over. Anybody that's like, oh, yeah, you, I'm here just for you, you got to be skeptical of them. Yeah, you know how we do.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Everybody is like, okay, let me see what you're going on. When you're opening that school, I'm going to give you $100 a year for 10 years. Yeah, and if you got a loan and you got very little credit, they just jack up your interest rate and you sign off on it because you really want that car. Oh, yeah. I think I'm about to make that mistake. No, you're not.
Starting point is 01:51:41 No, you're making money, man. You should be spending it. Have fun. Yeah, that's making money, man. You should be spending it. Have fun. Yeah, that's what I'm going to do. You need something comfortable that feels good when you get in it. Also, I think the planet's in it. It's like I'm not going to act like there's going to be shit here in 50 years. Yeah, we're in a time of great change, like legitimately.
Starting point is 01:52:00 I think it's hard to see because we're in the middle of the storm, but I think if we could look back on it historically, I think they're going to look back on this time and think, wow, everything within a few decades changed so radically. A lot of people are going to die. Every time there's a major change, a lot of people die. And then and then the world's different. Yeah, maybe this is a different kind of change because it's a change of technology, which theoretically at least would mean an improvement in medical technology to stop people from dying. When you say change in technology, what are you talking about? The overall shift of technology over the last 20 years with the introduction of the internet and personal computers. The fact that everyone's carrying around a connection to the internet constantly.
Starting point is 01:52:46 internet constantly that that shift i think when the historians look back on the human race i think it's going to be like a giant explosion like you have this this graph that's like you know at a 15 degree curve and then boom it just goes straight up to artificial intelligence and fucking robot overlords you know the best the next big shift is going to be when it's implanted. Yeah. When you're literally always connected to the internet. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it'll start off with something you wear probably.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Yeah. But the really good one, you have to have the operation. I mean, people be like, you got the operation? No, I'm still, the wearable's pretty good. Like, listen, bro. Like the iPhone 30 is going to be in your fucking skull. Yeah, they keep, I mean, everything keeps, you have a new, Meta has a new VR headset that's coming out soon. They have a 3, don't they?
Starting point is 01:53:35 Yeah, yeah. Have that been announced? Yeah. Like, they keep getting better at these fucking things. They're amazing. They're getting better and better and better and better. Have you put one on before? Yeah. I talked Bird into getting one. He was blown away. They're amazing. They're getting better and better and better and better. Have you put one on before? Yeah. I talked Bird in to getting one.
Starting point is 01:53:48 He was blown away. They're dope. Matt Serra was on the podcast and he says he brings it on the road with him and he plays like first person shooters in his hotel room and he's like screaming in his hotel room. The reason I stopped bringing it on the road is because the battery don't last that long and it's just another
Starting point is 01:54:04 thing I have to remember to charge. Right. But that's going to get better and better. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, eventually. It'll be glasses. I don't know why they haven't done this already, but it should be a separate pack that does all the computing that isn't in the headset that you're wearing on your head so it's not so heavy.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Yeah. Well, the Apple one apparently is doing that. The Apple one at least has an external battery. But the Apple one has a cable, though. I'm talking about because now they're at the point where— What does the Apple one look like? Can you pull it up? And the Apple one has a cable that goes to the back, and then that cable is connected to—what is she wearing?
Starting point is 01:54:43 What's going on in her back? They won't really show it to you. They haven't shown a lot. There is a battery pack that's different than the phone's battery pack. It also could be, it's probably connected to their computer. Oh, no. Well, that'll let you get different actions. So, like, the battery pack is only
Starting point is 01:54:57 two hours, supposedly. So, when you're plugged into the computer, you're probably getting a little updated battery, or a powerful battery. No, it's probably infinite. This is iPhone 1. Okay. That's what this is.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Yeah, this supposedly isn't even going to be available for everybody to buy. Really? You'll be able to buy it. I don't mean it in that way, but it's going to be so expensive. I think it's $3,500, and they're not going to make millions of them. Hey, man. I bet they're going to sell out quick. They probably will, and they're going to make another one.
Starting point is 01:55:23 You know what? I'm the type of motherfucker that would pay $3,500, though. If you're going to watch movies on that thing, I bet they're going to sell out quick. They probably will. Then they're going to make another one. You know what? I'm the type of motherfucker that would pay $3,500 though. If you're going to watch movies on that thing, I bet it's insane. Oh, man. I bet that's insane. Imagine you're watching a movie like this. You're watching Vikings or some shit. You're watching people hack each other apart, like the Northmen.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Oh, yeah. You're watching that and it's just in front of you. And that close to your eye, that could give you the equivalent of very much higher resolution. Yeah, higher resolution and I bet the intensity of the scenes is overwhelming because you don't even see your body.
Starting point is 01:55:56 You're just in the scene. From what I hear, what Apple's done better than everyone else is the eye tracking stuff is crazy. You can tell where you're looking and you can just do stuff from looking at it. They know where your eyes are in the... Yeah, Marques Brownlee described that as magic. He said it's so cool and works so good, it's, like, magical.
Starting point is 01:56:14 Well, you know, they've had that technology for a while with Black Hawk helicopters. Oh, wow. They have this technology where they put this headset on. Peter Berg was explaining it to us. You put a headset on, the Berg was explaining it to us. You put a headset on. The headset syncs up with the controls. And where you look, that's where you shoot.
Starting point is 01:56:32 So that's where the crosshairs go. So you look at an object on the ground. You're like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. You're looking through your eyes. Dude, I love that. And that's where the crosshairs go. The crosshairs know exactly what you're looking at.
Starting point is 01:56:46 I can't wait. I'm going to sign up. How wild. I will be the third person that has surgery. I'm not going to be the first one, but I'll be the third one. I will talk to you for six months, and then I'll consider it.
Starting point is 01:56:57 Yeah. How are you feeling today, Brian? One of those days. How are you doing, brother? What's going on? You all right? I get so hype about technology. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Well, it's fascinating stuff. It's like when that guy walks in the green room yesterday, and I was like, oh, shit, are those the B&Os? And he was like, I don't know. I was so disappointed. Yeah, he has no idea what kind of headphones he's carrying. Yeah. You know, it's almost like seeing somebody buy like a classic Mustang,
Starting point is 01:57:24 and it's just a commuter car for them they don't know anything about it right they never open it up oh my dad gave it to me it's a car oh right it's like oh you motherfucker you don't know what that could do it's a 68 mustang yeah yeah i just i get that way bro you gotta be committed to drive one of those every day yeah you gotta be really. Yeah. They are not reliable. No. That's a fucking 54, 53-year-old car. But none of those cars are.
Starting point is 01:57:51 55-year-old car. Yeah, none of those muscle cars from back then are really reliable. No. You know? Not now. Especially not now. But even back then, they weren't that reliable. I'm looking at some sensible cars right now.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Sensible? I don't like it. You don't like sensible? No, no, no, no, no, Brian. We've had this discussion. No, no. I'm not interested in sensible. Actually, you know what's crazy?
Starting point is 01:58:12 Actually, I hate that. I don't want to get these motherfuckers' attention. But the hybrid joints now are like, they have real high horsepower. It's kind of crazy. Crazy. That you can get, like I test drove a Volvo Recharge. The S60 and S90 Recharge. It's a hybrid.
Starting point is 01:58:33 Well, the thing is now all their cars are semi-hybrid at least. So they all have an electric motor of some kind. But the plug-in hybrid, yeah, the S6 had like 455 horsepower. Whoa. Yeah. And it's a four-cylinder engine. Really? Yeah, it's a four-cylinder inline. Oh, that looks dope.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Yeah, yeah. You should get one of those. Why don't you get one of those? I'm really thinking about getting one. Let me see that thing. I'm thinking about getting one right now. That's dope. That's the last one I test drove.
Starting point is 01:58:59 That looks beautiful. And Volvos have like a great safety record, right? That looks very good. That's a very good looking car. Yeah, but look at the stats. A lot of those Volvos, a great safety record, right? That looks very good. That's a very good-looking car. Yeah, but look at the stats. A lot of those Volvos, can you show me some more pictures? A lot of those Volvos, to me, they're always like a little, I think there's a little thing on it you can click. They're very simple.
Starting point is 01:59:14 Yeah, well, I used to think they were kind of dull, but this is not dull. This is a very good-looking car. No, it's definitely an old man brand, but I'm an old man. Yeah, but what does that mean? I would buy one of those if I was 20. That's a dope car. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. But I'm an old man. Yeah, but what does that mean? I would buy one of those if I was 20. That's a dope car. Oh, yeah. That's a dope luxury car.
Starting point is 01:59:29 It just means young people don't think it's cool. That's a Swedish company, right? 455 horsepower. Yeah. That's crazy. That's a lot. It's a lot for a... I mean, it's not a lot for cars of today.
Starting point is 01:59:40 My Tesla has 1,100. Oh, yeah. See, that's... Because my boy was just talking to me about this, but remember when, like, 250 horsepower was crazy? Yeah. That wasn't that long ago. Not that long ago.
Starting point is 01:59:52 Like, late 90s, it was like, 250 horsepower, you crazy? Yeah. Now, 600, 700, 1,000. I have a 1993 Porsche. It's a RS America, so it was like the little hot rod stripped down version of the 911. It has no air conditioning, no radio, no power steering. It's less than 3,000 pounds. And from the factory, mine's a little juiced up.
Starting point is 02:00:19 I had it worked on. But it's only 300 horsepower now. And from the factory, I think it was like, I want to say it was like 270. But you know what else I loved about that Volvo when I test drove it? Because I was thinking about that one. It's a Mercedes I was looking at. But I remember you telling me the button.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Like just having certain things just be buttons instead of on the touchscreen. Yeah, fuck that touchscreen. Because for me, it's like the volume has to be a button. Yeah. Changing the drive mode, that's got to be a button. Certain stuff, things that you need to happen instantly, that should be a button.
Starting point is 02:00:52 Yeah. Yeah. I don't need to go into the menus and turn up, you know? And so that's kind of, it's not as flashy as like a Mercedes or an Audi. It's undercover. Audis are nice. Have you seen the Audi Electric one? I saw one of those the other day.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Pull that up. That Audi Electric one is fucking dope. I'm looking at it. That's a dope car. Audi makes a fantastic car. Great handling. The driving experience in an Audi is just always great. Yeah, they're like BMWs.
Starting point is 02:01:23 All their cars are fucking awesome. Yeah. What is it called? What's their electric cool? That's it. e-tron. Look at that thing, man. That's badass.
Starting point is 02:01:37 Yeah. When you see one in real life, you're like, oh, that's a sweet car. It started at 100K. I ain't got that on me. It's only 523 horsepower. Interesting. With boost engaged. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:01:51 So they probably have, maybe it has a longer range or it's lighter or something like that. What's the range? Look at one of the Mercedes AMG. 270, well, 249 miles. That's low. That's lower than a Tesla. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, I think you get the most out of the electric combined with the gas.
Starting point is 02:02:12 Well, you know who made a great version of that? They stopped making it, sadly, is the Acura, the NSX. Oh, really? The last one was a hybrid. It was a hybrid turbocharged engine, and I think it might have had electric engines on front and rear wheels. See, you know, Volvo used to do that. They took out the supercharger because it was just creating more problems. You know, it just needed to be—it would break more often.
Starting point is 02:02:38 It was just one added thing in the chain that could break. There it is. That's the farewell to the nsx that for whatever reason did not sell that good and i don't know why because it's amazing although i never owned one but i did own the old ones it only sold 2 548 globally wow that's crazy yeah dude cars are getting faster but i think it's also like, unfortunately, that brand, Acura, it's not associated with the kind of cars that people want to buy. That's a dope-looking car, though, man.
Starting point is 02:03:13 Look at that thing. It's just not associated anymore with cars that, like, young people who buy those kind of cars want to drive. And not just that, but it's like, because that's kind of the problem I was running into with the Volvo thing was like, that's a cool car, but for the same amount of money, or for a little bit more money,
Starting point is 02:03:32 you can get a Mercedes. You can get a Porsche. Right. Yeah, that's the problem is it's status thing too. It's like, well, I'm going to buy a $70,000 Acura or $100,000 Acura when I can go get a $100,000 Benz or $100,000 BMW. I had a watch on once and this dude looked at it. He goes,
Starting point is 02:03:48 that's a dope watch. What is it? I go, it's a Seiko. He's like, oh. Like, oh. Oh, he doesn't know nothing about it. Well, just because it's a Seiko. Because it's a Seiko instead of like a Rolex or something like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Seiko makes regular watches. People have real brainwashing that way. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Once they find a, they'll be like, those shoes are fucking ugly. And I go, oh, but these are, you know, these are Gucci. And they go,
Starting point is 02:04:11 oh, okay. Yeah, now they like them. It's like, now you like them? Right. Yeah, that's weird, man. Yeah. Yeah, people get brainwashed.
Starting point is 02:04:20 And the Acura thing is one of them. But the old NSX sold real well. The old NSX, the first one that came out, I think that only had 250 horsepower or two maybe 270 i care about how i feel in the car really more than anything yeah because once like to me it's like now it's like once you pass 300 horsepower you know you you you don't need that's all for you that's all extra yeah it's all extra yeah two three about 300 is enough where you can pass most people on the highway yeah and that's all for you. That's all extra. Yeah, it's all extra. Yeah. About 300 is enough where you can pass most people on the highway. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:47 And that's all you need. Everything after that is just funsies. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you're just driving around, why are you going that fast? Unless you want to merge on the highway. That's one thing about the Tesla. When you have to merge on the highway, it's like, shh.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Yeah. Well, especially out here because the highway is all fucking weirdly designed. Very weirdly designed. Where there's like very little space between the on-ramp and the off-ramp, so you got to get on and merge like immediately. Yeah, probably, I think it's one of the most dangerous highway systems in the country. It's goofy. Yeah, it was made for like when top speeds was, you know, 40 miles an hour, like horse and buggies or some shit. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:05:27 It's not well designed. No. I think it definitely was not designed for this many people either. Yeah. I think they just never anticipated the kind of growth. Austin's real slow to do what makes sense, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:41 I remember when I first got here and I was so pissed because the wintertime fucked everything up. And I was like, how y'all not ready for the winter? It snows two years in a row and you guys still don't have any snow plows? Yeah. Well, they were like, oh, it doesn't usually get cold out here. Yeah. You know what? America doesn't usually get attacked.
Starting point is 02:05:57 But after 9-11, we did something. You know what I mean? Right. If you had a 9-11 in 2002 and 2003, you'd be like, set some shit up. Right. They haven't made any changes. Three winters in a row, we've been fucked up out here. They haven't changed nothing.
Starting point is 02:06:11 And this winter, they're saying it's going to be bad again. Oh, it's going to be real bad. How do they know? You know it. Because it's so hot? I think the same way they knew it was going to be a really hot summer. Yeah. Well, obviously climate change.
Starting point is 02:06:23 going to be a really hot summer yeah right well obviously climate change but on top of that the way the the way the weather was before that something happened where we had like a a heat dome over this area and so we didn't have a really really wet spring like we normally do and so there was no moisture left to cool it off during the summer so it was like extra extra hot dry hot. Dry hot. Yeah, and so I don't know shit about weather, but I think that's how they can predict that the winter is going to be even worse. Unseasonably cold and stormy winter as El Nino, a climate phenomenon that also often brings wetter, cooler weather to Texas, rolls in. After a hot, hot summer, Austinites are ready for a cool down. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:07 Until the fucking roads freeze over and there's no plows. But the problem with that, though, is El Nino is supposed to be a cooler summer, too. But we didn't have that because of the heat dome. The heat dome. I think these motherfuckers trying to predict weather, I think they all wrong from now on. We were having a conversation last night, and I said this. If the government could affect the weather, if they really had technology that could affect the weather, would they? Yeah, they would.
Starting point is 02:07:39 And they do. You think they do? Well, they're not even hiding the cloud seeding, because they can do that. Right. Because they do that in Abu Dhabi, right? Or Saudi Arabia. They like make it rain. Abu Dhabi, they make it rain once a week.
Starting point is 02:07:50 Okay, yeah. Which is so baller. Yeah, of course they can. Of course they can. That's so baller. It never rains here. Oh, yes, it does. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:59 It rains once a week. Like every week. Yeah. It rains every Friday at 12 o'clock. Yeah. But that's always been around. Cloud seeding has been a week. Like every week. Yeah. It rains every Friday at 12 o'clock. Yeah. But that's always been around. Cloud seeding has been a thing. But you're saying like if they could cause earthquakes, if they could make a thunderstorm, if they could.
Starting point is 02:08:12 Right. Right. I'm sure they would. They definitely would. Yeah. If like if they could do something along those lines. Do you know the wacky conspiracy theory? And this is wacky.
Starting point is 02:08:24 About the South Pole. The South Pole is some sort of a direct energy weapon, weapon that there's like some station down there that they've pretended is just for receiving, but it's actually for transmitting. I have no idea if any of this is nonsense. It's just fun. it's fun when people talk crazy but this guy was on the sean ryan show and uh he is a air quotes whistleblower and he's explaining how he went down there and he read the operating manual for this device and this device caused the earthquakes in christ church new zealand and i was like what what? Nah. It's so hard to know if you're just a comic
Starting point is 02:09:07 in Austin. Do I know what's going down in the South Pole? I mean, like I said, whenever somebody's saying some wild shit to me, I start asking them, what other shit do you believe, so I can know how believable you are. Because you might be one of those people that just
Starting point is 02:09:23 believes bullshit easily. Hey, what do you say? Give us some volume. And every single door in the facility, I had complete access to every compartment they manufactured. What are you blowing the whistle on? That there are technologies
Starting point is 02:09:41 at the South Pole Station that people can't even consider that exist on this planet. Directed energy weapon systems is something that people need to get in their vocabulary fast. The IceCube neutrino detector is not simply a passive listening device as presented for the science that they're claiming it to do. It also has the capacity to transmit. There are embedded in the ice what are called digital optical modules, DOMs. They're about the size of a basketball.
Starting point is 02:10:06 The array embedded in the ice is one kilometer by one kilometer by one kilometer. It is the world's largest telescope. And now because we have proven that it can transmit, it's the world's largest directed energy weapons system. It is responsible for the earthquakes in Christchurch, New Zealand. Okay, when he says one kilometer by one kilometer by one kilometer, It is responsible for the earthquakes in Christchurch, New Zealand. I physically... Okay, when he says one kilometer by one kilometer by one kilometer, does he mean it's one kilometer high, it's one kilometer long, and one kilometer wide? I think that.
Starting point is 02:10:34 A whole kilometer into the ground. Yeah, he could have just said a cubed kilometer. Well, it kind of... I mean, it's more impressive, I guess, just to think about it goes a kilometer into the ground. He's a former firefighter contractor. Horatheon exposed the company's alleged ability to create earthquakes worldwide, linking to hidden directed energy weapon systems at South Pole Station. So what is this?
Starting point is 02:10:58 How would a firefighter contractor have access to that? I don't know how any of this is real i have no idea i don't know what his job was what's his name eric hecker yeah i was trying to look him up i don't know man he had some nice patches on his jacket though looked official yeah yeah i mean you full of shit until i see some proof you know because you know extraordinary claims like require extraordinary evidence it's like you're saying some wild shit you gotta at least show me something yes good point yeah you was because you were a firefighter contractor i don't feel like you would have the keys to the secret death ray you know well i think what he was saying was that he was reading the documents of the owner's manual and that's when he realized
Starting point is 02:11:42 that it's capable of transmitting i I believe he says that in the show. Yeah, but how would a firefighter have access to manuals and shit? I don't know. Yeah, that's crazy. And why he's still alive. This is what the thing he's talking about is when I Google it. Antarctic Muon and Neutrino Detector Array is what it's called. And it goes, let me see what it looks like.
Starting point is 02:12:04 The neutrino detector is real. But the facility on top of it, and whoa, look what happens under the ground. Holy shit. But the reason it has to be so deep under the ground is so it's protected from
Starting point is 02:12:21 solar... from extra shit, so they know protected from like solar, from like extra shit. So they know when it gets hit that it was a neutrino. Ah. You know? Right. So it's real. Like a lot of the stuff he said was real. But here's the thing we also know, Joe, is that the best place to hide a lie is between two truths.
Starting point is 02:12:38 The best bullshit is they say a lot of true shit and they sneak the bullshit in there. It's like, oh yeah, the neutrino detector is this and this and this this and this that yeah and did you know it can make you it can make you gay and arctic muon a neutrino detector array the shield provided by looking for only upward going neutrinos that must have passed through earth something no other known particle can do oh wow so it's through Earth. Right. Neutrinos don't interact with matter almost at all. So that neutrino detector is way, way, way, way down,
Starting point is 02:13:14 and they're waiting to see sparks of light so they know that was a neutrino. Wow. But if they put it on the surface, I think they can't tell the difference between one that came because they're pouring out of the sun right so they're looking for ones that that have passed through the earth that have come from other places wow so they know they know for sure so every now and then it's it's so unlikely that one will interact with matter that like it doesn't happen that often you know isn't it crazy they spent that much money to build that thing to find
Starting point is 02:13:46 that out yeah so so and also so that's the other thing the thing this guy is saying i don't even understand how that would work how could it be both things right how could it be a detector and also a transmitter yeah okay because i think it's just a pool full of some special kind of water or some special kind of liquid that, you know, it's enough where it makes a neutrino more likely to fucking hit a nucleus or something. So I don't understand how that's gathering power that it can transmit. You know, I don't know. The thing about people like that, and I'm not saying this guy's not telling the truth,
Starting point is 02:14:24 but I'm saying when I see stories about someone talking about some alien base that's underground and there's just aliens down there and one of them shot at me with a laser beam. If you were hiding some shit, one of the best ways to make it seem ridiculous that you're hiding some shit is get some guy who's out of his fucking mind to go tell some wacky ass story. Oh, yeah. Fill him full of lies. Tell him, yeah, you know, we started the earthquake in Christchurch, New Zealand. It was started with this thing.
Starting point is 02:14:55 And then you tell him, yeah, it's actually a transmitter. And then you have the guy go tell him. And now everybody's like, oh, that's kooky. The idea of doing that is kooky. Directed energy weapon is kooky. Well, meanwhile, it wasn't even that. They got a real one somewhere. So now they've discredited the whole idea of directed energy weapons.
Starting point is 02:15:13 They got some shit out in the desert in Nevada that's real. The government loves conspiracy. I mean, why wouldn't they? If I was running some top secret program like a directed energy weapon, I would have someone give them bad information, give them fake stories, and then have them go expose it. Like have someone who's like most likely to blab. And then have that person give them this knucklehead story. And then he goes out and says it. And then everybody researches it you just tell
Starting point is 02:15:46 rosanne you just tell her just tell rosanne of the secret tell her right before she goes on stage there's a direct energy weapon yeah it's um you know it's one of those things man it's like i have no fucking idea what they're capable of doing. See, that right there, that's the red flag to me. That's the bio on his website. That's the little red flaggy. A self-educated research investigator. Fuck out of there. That's worse than homeschooling.
Starting point is 02:16:14 That takes from his many odd life experiences and connects with others. Eric was raised on Long Island. Okay. Yep. Part of the Stargate project run by the CIA and the DIA? As a child. What? His childhood included being part of the Stargate project run by the CIA, DIA.
Starting point is 02:16:35 Later on, he experiences in the submarine service. Following that, he became a plumber for some of the wealthiest people in the world back on Long Island. What? That's a weird turn of events. In 2010, Eric took a contract to work at the South Pole Station for a year. So he went from being an amazing plumber to being a firefighter in the South Pole. That's what he's saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:00 Okay. Always the avid researcher. It was not until Eric began working remotely throughout the state of Alaska that he started making connections that his own life may not have been what he thought it was. Now he's trying to help others see that things may not be as we were told. Three exclamation points. Yeah. See, this is the thing, man.
Starting point is 02:17:23 That feels a little red flaggy, does it? Yeah, that feels real word I mean what the fuck yeah, you can donate support on patreon and shop is CBD products Yeah, well the thing is it's like Maybe's telling the truth Maybe but it's like would you trust a self-educated doctor? But if I wanted to obscure the truth, I would tell everything to a wacky dude. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:17:49 See, that's what's going to kill us. It's the death of truth. We can't tell what's true. Look, maybe that guy's honest. Maybe he's telling the absolute truth. And maybe it's so crazy that we think that he's a loon because the story sounds impossible. The story sounds impossible that they would hide some sort of a directed energy weapon in some beautiful project to try to detect neutrinos. Right? You would think that that would be a really good way.
Starting point is 02:18:17 Yeah, but at the same time, I was like, what? Could they do both things? We're too stupid. Why would you have to hide anything in the South Pole? I mean, ain't nobody going down there. Nobody's looking because that's a good place to do it. If all you have to do is just be deep into the earth, what better place to do it
Starting point is 02:18:29 than the place where absolutely no one's going to visit you? They couldn't even cover up the sexual harassment down there. In the South Pole? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, think about that. Because you out in the middle of nowhere. You go out there, you out there. It ain't like you could just hop home real quick. So it's like, yeah, people fucking, people getting fucked out there. middle of nowhere. You go out there, you out there. It ain't like you could just hop home real quick.
Starting point is 02:18:46 So it's like, yeah, people fucking, people getting fucked out there. I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're stuck out there, you also have a real concern of dying. If something breaks down. Yeah, you can't get away. You can't get anywhere. You got to wait for someone to come rescue you.
Starting point is 02:19:01 And whoever's in charge of the food, you got to fuck them. Bro, living out there must be weird. It's only scientists. No other humans live in the South Pole. weird.
Starting point is 02:19:12 Yeah. That must be so weird. Just to be in a place where you know you can't survive, stay outside too long. Not even, you can't go outside at all.
Starting point is 02:19:20 I think if you're out there, like if you go out there without, if you step out there without protection on, if you just step out there during certain times, I think if you're out there, if you go out there without if you step out there without protection on, if you just step out there during certain times, I think that's going to, the burns will be it'll permanently burn you.
Starting point is 02:19:32 Really? Yeah. At the coldest times in the South Pole, you can't just, you have to be suited up to go outside. You can't breathe the air? I don't think so. How cold does it get? Let's look it up. I don't think it's the coldest place on Earth. It's not? I don't think so. Whoa. No. How cold does it get? Well, let's look it up. Yeah, let's look it up.
Starting point is 02:19:45 I don't know. I don't think it's the coldest place on Earth. It's not? I don't think so. Let me see. What is? Well, let's look it up. What's the coldest place on Earth?
Starting point is 02:19:53 It's probably Siberia. Oh, East Antarctica, plateau. What is it? It gets negative 144 degrees Fahrenheit. Yeah. And so it's like, you breathe one of those breaths in, that's gonna fuck your whole shit up. But wait a minute, how is that true?
Starting point is 02:20:11 Because I've done the cryo chamber. The cryo chamber is minus 250. Yeah, but that water's not touching your skin, right? No, it's not touching you, it's air, it's air. Yeah, I have no idea. How do you do that? But maybe, but you know what? Maybe because there's no moisture in it. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:20:29 Right. I have no idea. How is that not freezing the fuck out of your mouth? You do wear a mask, though. You wear a surgical mask when you go in there. The East Antarctica Plateau is the coldest place on Earth with temperatures as low as negative 144 degrees Fahrenheit. It's located in Antarctica. Humans can't plateau is the coldest place on earth with temperatures as low as 140 negative 144 degrees fahrenheit
Starting point is 02:20:50 It's located in Antarctica humans can't inhale air that cold for more than a few breaths It would cause our lungs to hemorrhage Russian scientists ducking out to check on the weather station would wear masks that warm the air before they breathed it in So how how are you able to do that in those cryo chambers? Don't you wear a mask in a cryo chamber? Yeah. There you go. But you don't have to. Oh. Maybe it's that limited amount of time.
Starting point is 02:21:11 Well, I don't know. No, let me look at it. Maybe you do have to. Maybe I'm wrong. How come you don't freeze to death in a cryo chamber? There's two different kinds, too. There's ones that go below the neck, and they're filled with like gas it's like it looks cloudy and then there's a kind where they just cool the air and you walk in there's like a
Starting point is 02:21:32 thermometer it's brutally cold but it's um it's way more doable than the uh ice. Cold plunges are way harder to do. Yeah, it's too, I don't understand this. I don't understand the answer that it gave me. What does the answer say? Because you're doing it with the mask on. I was trying to say that the speed, it just happened really fast. But how would that little mask protect you from hemorrhaging would that really work that's
Starting point is 02:22:07 crazy just breathing cold air with that little bitch-ass mask is gonna protect you yeah i don't think so because you say you don't it's optional right i think so i think some people didn't wear the mask i might be wrong though i might be wrong i know uh i always wore gloves and you always wore like heavy socks even for the anarcho thing it says you can use a snorkel or breathe through your jacket that's enough to warm there interesting so it just has to be warmed a little bit and that's enough to warm it enough probably okay hmm yeah because I think you can't afford for the moisture in your lungs to freeze. You know? Right.
Starting point is 02:22:50 Or boil. Or boil. That's how you die in space. When the pressure is so low that the boiling point drops low, so all the moisture in your body would just boil. Really? Yeah, like if your helmet came off in space you would die from that's how you would die you would you boil you boil and and like blowed up because isn't that crazy because in movies you always freeze they're always like and you see the like their face turns blue oh yeah
Starting point is 02:23:16 see i think well listen i think there's debate about i think if you if you ask any if you ask the astrophysicists how you would die in space they would all give you a slightly different answer but that's the one i'm going with that sounds reasonable yeah the the your the first thing that would happen to you is that i mean you might your body might freeze up after that but the first thing that would happen is that the liquids in your eyeballs your mouth your lungs all that would boil off jesus i know that's i know that's a fact so i don't know what happens to the rest of you That's what's super bizarre about even the concept of aliens Because our body is designed
Starting point is 02:23:51 To survive our atmosphere Our gravity You know Our temperature We're designed for a very narrow window Our very specific Mixture of air Oxygen and nitrogen.
Starting point is 02:24:05 You've got 15 seconds. You have 15 seconds in a cosmic vacuum. Oxygen deprivation. Assuming you don't hold your breath during decompression, it will take about 15 seconds for your O2-deprived blood to get to your brain. When this happens, you'll pass out, and then you'll die. That's oxygen deprivation. Assuming that you don't hold your brain. When this happens, you'll pass out and then you'll die. That's oxygen deprivation. Assuming that you don't hold your breath.
Starting point is 02:24:29 Whoa. Cosmic vacuum. But click on that, let's see what the other five ways are. Oh. Six ways. Six ways you can die. What does it say? Association.
Starting point is 02:24:41 So association's number five. Burning up in the atmosphere. Well, that's obvious. Yeah. is number five. Burning up in the atmosphere. Well, that's obvious. Yeah. High energy photons. Yeah, cosmic rays. Freezing. Fortunately, heat doesn't transfer.
Starting point is 02:24:56 Ebulism. The motion in your body will start to evaporate. There it is. This is known as ebulism. It happens because of reduction. The pressure causes the boiling point of your bodily fluids to decrease. Brian Simpson dropping knowledge with no notes. With no notes. He just pulls that out.
Starting point is 02:25:12 Explosive decompression. Oh, boy. No air. Oh, yeah. Oh, boy. That's what happened. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:25:20 Your shit ain't pressurized, but that's going to kill everybody. As long as you don't try to hold your breath during this explosive decompression, you'll survive about 30 seconds before you sustain any permanent injuries. If you don't hold your breath, you got 30 seconds. What if you hold your breath? How likely is it that you would survive? Bro, that's why the idea of the type of people that you got to pick to be astronauts. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:25:42 Look at this. If you hold your breath during decompression, the gas in your lungs will expand due to the lack of ambient pressure. This expansion will eventually cause internal ruptures in your pulmonary tissue. Essentially, your lungs will kind of, well, explode, for lack of a better description. As your lungs collapse, the gas they contain will be transformed into massive internal internal air bubbles these bubbles will meander through your body sooner or later they will find their way to your vital organs such as your heart and your brain which may not actually oh my god yeah i mean but but all of these are like you got you got what 10 to 30 seconds yeah you're dead yeah you're dead or you're dead so imagine being
Starting point is 02:26:21 an astro like signing up to go somewhere where one mistake could kill you. Yeah. Yeah, and then imagine being, like, and somebody else's mistake could kill you, right? Yeah. So now imagine being one of those astronauts that was out there when that one bitch, when she let the wrench float away. Like, I think she was out there to maybe repair the Hubble or something like that, and she just lost a whole bag or two. You don't remember this? I don't remember that.
Starting point is 02:26:48 You know what I'm talking about, Jamie, don't you? She lost it in space? Yeah, yeah. And it's like, oh, right here. There it goes. Is there anything they can do now? Hey, howdy. Crew lock bag. Yeah. There it goes. We see it. Yeah, we see it. Is there anything they can do now? Fuck no.
Starting point is 02:27:10 That's it? Oops. Wow. So that's the tool bag? And something just fell out of the tool bag? Oh, Jesus, you can't grab it. Oh, my God. Imagine just even thinking if you grab it
Starting point is 02:27:25 what if you fall oh no yeah that's not worth it you gotta let that shit go bro fuck everything about what this poor lady's doing yeah that gives me so much anxiety but yeah man i just watched a video how you how you if let's say that person was with that tool bag, how they'd get back because they don't have propulsion, you know? Right. You can't swim back because there's nothing to move against. Right. Your only shot is to then use as much force as you can to throw that tool bag backwards and use that as propulsion forwards. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:28:00 You have to throw something the other way. Oh, my God. Or imagine if that's the key thing for that whole mission, like the whole reason we out here and you just let that bitch float away. Imagine the idea of keeping it in a bag. Yeah, it's not tied to anything. It's not clipped on. But you know what, I'm sure a NASA physicist could explain to you why they can't do that.
Starting point is 02:28:23 Probably. It's probably a reason why they can't do that. Right. Or like no magnets or nothing. Right. Nothing. Not like a little fucking bungee cord. Because it looked like that bag.
Starting point is 02:28:32 When she opened it, everything was just floating. Yeah. I was like, damn, that don't seem like an efficient. No. Especially when you got those weird tips to your fingers. You're probably not good at grabbing shit. But they probably have backups. Just floats away oh yeah
Starting point is 02:28:48 but it looks like she how did you why did she do that well I think she touched it until like set it down or something like that don't give me anxiety just seeing that lady on that machine all the way up there in space and your reflexes to be like no oh It's so spooky. But she's not the first one that's lost something, right? Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure guys have lost shit. Have they lost people, though?
Starting point is 02:29:13 Have we ever lost a person from, like, floating off? Oh, that's a good question. Because that's one of those things where it's like, as soon as you let go, you dead. You know what I mean? It ain't like the movies. It's like, as soon as you let go, you dead. You know what I mean? It ain't like the movies. As soon as you let go, you gone. Because there's no way, like he said, there's no way for you to, I mean, maybe some real. Some Iron Man shit.
Starting point is 02:29:34 Yeah, I think, but for you to do that, you would have to lose air. You would have to risk losing air to propel yourself. What? There were three Russian cosmonauts that were lost in space. The first guy almost. What was There were three Russian cosmonauts that were lost in space. Ooh. Ooh. The first guy almost. What was his name?
Starting point is 02:29:48 Yuri Geller? He almost got lost in space? I don't find that. They just got, they drifted away? No, he, the first man in space was a Russian guy. I think his name was,
Starting point is 02:29:58 it was Yuri something. Yeah, you're right. And he, he had a rip in his suit or something like that. Oh, it depressurized on its way back. Okay, yeah. But he survived.
Starting point is 02:30:09 I don't think he was ever the same after that, but he survived. And they first sent the dog up. That dog died. Yeah, for sure. I forget the dog's name. Yuri Gagarin was the first guy. Oh, Yuri Gagarin. Who did I say?
Starting point is 02:30:23 Yuri Geller? Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, Yuri Geller is the magician. Okay, yeah. Yeah, Yuri Gagarin is the first guy. Yuri Gagarin. Who did I say? Yuri Geller? Yeah, Yuri Geller is the magician. Okay, yeah. Yuri Gagarin. Yeah, that's a bad motherfucker, but he definitely didn't come back the same. One orbit of Earth. April 12th, 1961.
Starting point is 02:30:38 Damn, back then. You know, gangster, you had to be back then to get one of those fucking rockets. Oh, man. A Russian made one? What did we do with the, the Brahmas dropped in 19, what was it, three? Or, sorry, the first plane was 1903, bomb was like 40 years later, and then less than 20 to get to space. Yeah. Hey, what, I know the United States got a lot of scientists from Operation Paperclip from Nazi Germany. But how many
Starting point is 02:31:05 did Russia get? A lot. The rest of them. So is there a Russian rocket program like this one with Yuri Gagelin? I think so. That's the dirty secret about space travel. Did you see the Indiana Jones movie by any chance? No, I haven't seen it. There's a little bit of that
Starting point is 02:31:24 Operation Paperclip in there. The main bad Nazi guy was in the story. You haven't seen any Indiana Jones movies? No, I have. It's just not the newer one. Oh, there's a new one? Dial of Destiny is what it was called. Yeah, it was out like a month ago. Is it out? Man. I just watched it on digital.
Starting point is 02:31:40 Did the Nazis have dueling scars? Did they? I don't think so. He's competing with so many good movies. This might be the best movie year ever. Really? Yeah, and it's crazy to happen during a strike, but it's like... Operation Oso I Vahim.
Starting point is 02:31:56 They re-released Oldboy. Have you ever seen Oldboy, Joe? The original, the Korean one? Yes, I have. They just re-released it in theaters. Oh, wow. So this guy was a Soviet. It was a Soviet operation,
Starting point is 02:32:09 which more than 2,500 former Nazi German specialists from companies and institutions relevant to military and economic policy in the Soviet Union. They came over just like they came over to america that's the dirty secret about rocket travel like the nazis had amazing engineers and scientists and these guys were ahead in in rocketry and we scooped all their evil motherfuckers up why do you think that is why why do certain cultures have better engineering and all that? That's a very good question.
Starting point is 02:32:46 It's like who gets to jumpstart on steel, right? You've got to think that if you're in Germany, you know, unlike the United States, it's not an emerging country. It's been around for a long time. You know, they have a long history of automobiles. You know, I mean, think about, like, Mercedes-Benz. What year was that developed? Audi. Well, I think it's whatever your culture takes pride in.
Starting point is 02:33:12 If they take pride in engineering. Yeah. It's the way, like, when you were in Japan, how the train's never late. Like, never. Right. Yeah. The one time I was late, like, the guy had to go on TV and apologize. Yeah, you, like, Japanese corporations, the guy had to go on TV and apologize.
Starting point is 02:33:29 Yeah, you, like Japanese corporations, like the way they run them, man. Like these people are very emotionally attached to the success and failure of their company. And they will work very, very hard to make sure that they don't dishonor their company. And they'll work you to death. Yeah, literally. Yeah. And the products they make are all awesome. But you know what? Over there, the ratio of CEO pay to worker pay, it's like 20 times less than here.
Starting point is 02:33:58 Really? Yeah, yeah. Interesting. So the workers get paid more? The workers get a bigger percentage of what the company makes. That's fair. Yeah, that seems is the- So the workers get paid more. The workers get a bigger percentage of what the company makes. It's fair. Yeah, that seems fair to me.
Starting point is 02:34:09 There's no CEOs over there that are, like I forget what the ratio is over here, but it's ridiculous. Ours is the biggest, for sure. The biggest gap between the workers and the CEO. Well, the wildest thing that we do is we have stuff that we can buy cheaper if we build it in places where they don't have any rules so we go to these places that don't have any rules and we build all this
Starting point is 02:34:35 shit and then sell it in america yeah because that is that is a really wild loophole and here's the god here's the god honest truth like you you know how when you go to other countries how they have like if you buy a pack of cigarettes it'll have like somebody with lung cancer
Starting point is 02:34:49 or something on the front. Yeah. It's like if they started, if they had to tell you before you bought something like all the
Starting point is 02:34:56 horrific shit it was connected to you'd still buy it. Yep. You know. They were like hell this new iPhone? Yeah well
Starting point is 02:35:03 two kids died in the factory that made this. And you're like, I need that camera. Well, now for sure because people are addicted. And also there's not an ethical choice. They would have to show you a picture of them for you to feel something. If there was an ethical choice, like if you knew Samsung was making their phones in some factory in the United States where all the chips were made here and everybody was on union wages.
Starting point is 02:35:30 They all got health care and benefits. They all lived a nice middle-class life. And the phone was more money. The phone would be like $2,500. But actually a lot of people. Almost that. We've had this conversation too many times, but I think a lot of people would buy it.
Starting point is 02:35:46 I think if iPhone just had a Made in America phone as an option and it became a status symbol to have the USA phone. You know what? I agree. I think a lot of people would buy it, but I think you would be surprised at who didn't. Yeah. Like most of the people making the most noise about this sort of thing would still be like, well, I can't. What am I going to do? Yeah, I got to buy the cheap one.
Starting point is 02:36:09 I have to. I can't afford it. Yeah. Most of the same people that are mad at you for what you buy, they would still buy it. Right. Yeah, because that's what it boils down to. It's like you need money to live. But it is one of the weird things about this country. Everyone is addicted to their phone.
Starting point is 02:36:26 Everyone's phone is made by slaves. It's made by at the very bottom of the supply chain. They're taking minerals out of the ground in the Congo in abject poverty. The cobalt. Horrific poverty. Every phone has cobalt. And that shit is like mining that shit is treacherous. Treacherous.
Starting point is 02:36:48 Yeah, ain't no CEOs out there at the cobalt mine. That Siddharth Khara guy, the journalist that exposed that and came on the podcast and showed all his videos about that, like, that guy, I mean, he risked his literal life to go there and get footage of that and tell that story. And I don't think it put a dent in the sales. Poor son of a bitch. Yeah, that ain't gonna change shit. Look, money talk, bullshit walk. That's saying,
Starting point is 02:37:12 that's saying, that's the cliche for a reason. It's like, until you can affect money, no one gives a fuck about the story you telling. It's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:21 If you don't stop, if you don't stop the money from moving, you just tell, you just out there screaming. Remember Occupy Wall Street? Yes. When they thought those kids was about to run up in Wall Street, they were scared to death.
Starting point is 02:37:33 When they knew they were just going to camp outside, they were like, oh, yeah, let's be out there. Yeah. We'll go in the back way. You know, it's like if you're just making noise, that shit don't work no more. Yeah. Nah. I think if something like that happened today they'd be terrified talking about wall street yeah because people seem a little bit
Starting point is 02:37:49 more prone to violence well people yeah people more dangerous today yeah yeah yeah and you wouldn't be able to i mean the thing is if the cops got on board like if you couldn't if you couldn't get count on the police to protect you right that would be a whole other thing it's a whole other thing yeah yeah yeah but what but, are we really ready for the world to change in that way, though? I don't know. I don't know. There would have to be something that's egregious where people could all agree that this one institution is ruining our country and ruining our lives, and there's somehow or another
Starting point is 02:38:20 getting away with it, and people decide to go to that place. Well, I just think it's easy to get behind a sentiment when it don't cost you nothing. Also, you have to consider that if you are planning something like this, you're going to get infiltrated by the federal government. There's going to be agent provocateurs. That's standard play, but there's no fucking way they're going to let you go storm some institution somewhere. Some banking institution or some... Later.
Starting point is 02:38:53 And just fucking shut everything down. There's no way they're going to let you do that. So they're going to probably just join your group. They're going to find out everything about you and they're going to catch a couple of people and turn them, turn them into informants. And so they're going to give you immunity, but you have to testify against these people, and then it's over. I don't know what kind of world we live in, man.
Starting point is 02:39:16 I know too much stuff. Yeah. I could have gone the rest of my life without knowing that Steven Seagal made a reggae song. You know what i mean yeah i didn't want to have to hear it now it's like man's like stuck in me yeah you're inundated with stuff too much information and it's like every day there's a new tragedy every day excuse me there's a new natural disaster there's something going on in the South Pole. Directed energy weapons.
Starting point is 02:39:46 You know the best thing that I've done for myself recently is I started scheduling a Do Not Disturb for Mondays. Scheduling it? Yeah, yeah. So on Monday at midnight, I don't get no phone calls. I don't get no notifications. Oh, you schedule it on your phone so so it switches to do not disturb mode. It switches to do not disturb on Monday morning, and it's like that all day. So, I mean, obviously, if you call me twice, it'll come through, whatever.
Starting point is 02:40:14 But other than that, I don't see this shit unless I want to. That's good. Yeah, and it's like I got because I can't deal with that. I can't deal with all. I'm just overly stimulated. Yeah. You know? You're overly stimulated, and. You know, you're overly stimulated.
Starting point is 02:40:25 And people are always sending me links to tweets and links to videos and link to watch this documentary. I'm like, how? Yeah. I don't have any time. It's like you're constantly getting. But the good thing is you're finding out about a lot of stuff. Like, I think way more aware of what just what's going on in the world now like human beings in general but people that are paying attention in particular are way more aware of what's going on the world
Starting point is 02:40:52 than they ever were when i was like 20 like when i was 20 the kids 20 years old today they know way more about how fucking weird the world someone say too would say too much. But that, you know, I bet some before the fucking internet and before television and before the newspapers would also say that's too much. You know what it is, man? There's nothing worse than a young cynic.
Starting point is 02:41:17 You know? It's like you're 17 and you're already cynical. Like, you're supposed to live ignorant with, you know, pie in the sky ideals. Right, go party. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:26 Party, have a good time. Yeah, have some damn positivity, some hope. Yes. Positivity and hope. Was that a bug? I didn't see a bug. Oh. We were talking about there's never been a bug in here.
Starting point is 02:41:40 No? Now you're seeing bugs. Yeah. I mean, you don't want young cynics, but I'm not even saying it that way. I'm just saying they're more aware of how bizarre everything is. Something that's not going to turn out well. But there's a very real possibility that it might not turn out well. Oh, no, Joe.
Starting point is 02:41:57 We're doomed. I'm full on. Really? Yeah, because the solution to all the major problems that face humanity require a bit of selfless cooperation that I just don't think humans are capable of. Really? On a grand scale. No, no, no. It's so easy to divide humans, you know, because we have so many differences there's way more differences than we have perceived connection right so it's like even if you get people to unite for a little bit it's only a matter of time before they fall apart well people also love to collect in groups and then go after other groups right you know they love to do that they it makes them a part of something
Starting point is 02:42:42 bigger than themselves that's why people love to call themselves activists when they're really just bitching about shit online. Because you join a group of people that are also into the same thing and then you have camaraderie within the group. You support each other's posts and tweets and all that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:42:59 So it becomes very community oriented. It is wild to call yourself an activist when you're not leaving the house. You're not active at all. They're an online activist. Yeah, they're called slacktivists. But I get why some people, even if what your cause is is fucking stupid, I get why you'd be drawn to being a part of a group. Because a lot of people are alone.
Starting point is 02:43:22 They got nothing. because a lot of people are alone. They got nothing. And if you become a part of a group, whatever that group is, especially if it's a noble cause, now you've got a purpose. Now you're fighting for something.
Starting point is 02:43:35 I'm out here fighting for something. I'm fighting for a better country. You're not doing shit. And then you get self-righteous with it. Excuse me for caring about the world. It's also, it's like, it's hard to have an objective opinion about so many different things because so many different things that we talk about there's like your side already agrees that this is the solution or your side already agrees that we must support
Starting point is 02:44:01 Ukraine or your side already agrees that climate change is real. It becomes dogmatic. Yeah. But we're so vulnerable to that. It's amazing. It's amazing how vulnerable we are to that. What it really is is that it distorts your... Because we forget the truth is not just the conclusion, but it's also like we were talking earlier,
Starting point is 02:44:27 how do you decide what's true? That's just as important as whatever you say and the truth is. And when you get in groups and get into the dogma, it's like it completely takes it away. There's just the truth. Yeah. And we don't get to scrutinize how we got there or any of that. It's just you believe this or you're not right you're not a true
Starting point is 02:44:45 believer you're not part of the group so it takes away people's ability to be discerning yeah it does and there's also a fear of stepping out of the lines because if you're living like a lot of this is interaction you're having on social media which in which people are much more likely to attack you much more likely to attack you, much more likely to insult you than they would be to your face if you were saying the same thing. So it's like then you feel that, like, oh, I'm being attacked. And then you get caught up in this weird web of, like, checking all your mentions and seeing who's mad at you for what you said.
Starting point is 02:45:21 Oh, yeah. I stopped giving a fuck. I really did. Because I realized, like, I don't have time for that. Like, I'm not going to argue with you for what you said. I stopped giving a fuck. I really did. I realized I don't have time for that. I'm not going to argue with you for free. I don't have time for that. It's interesting to see people lose their whole life to it, though.
Starting point is 02:45:35 Some people get too obsessed with it. Like I told you, I don't watch the news. I only absorb the news that rises to my attention. So while I'm looking up like this, if something come up here and I look at it. Ari was just saying the exact same thing. Yeah, yeah, I'm with him on that.
Starting point is 02:45:52 I mean, he went extreme. Like, you know, he... He doesn't know what's going on. Right, but it's... I feel like it makes my opinions pure that I'm not being... Because it's hard to get the news without being told how to feel about it simultaneously.
Starting point is 02:46:07 Right. Like, here's the news and here's also the correct feeling from your group. Right. Right. And it's like, it makes you be fake, you know? And so I'd rather hear about the news. I only really hear about the news when I'm doing my podcast. B.S. with Brian Simpson, available every Thursday on all platforms.
Starting point is 02:46:21 really hear about the news when I'm doing my podcast. B.S. with Brian Simpson, available every Thursday on all platforms. I rather wait till my producer tells me some shit. And that's when I know the news. I very rarely am I looking for... I hate that. You know people that are obsessed with Trump
Starting point is 02:46:37 and obsessed with Biden and every time you see them, depending on what side they're on, they got new facts for you. I'm like, damn man, what's the point of that? What is the point? You don't get anything out of knowing all this. You know, you've already decided who you're going to vote for. And that's all the power you have.
Starting point is 02:46:54 Because they're caught up in a game. It's like rooting for the dolphins. You're caught up in this fucking thing. Like, you know, we're playing Pittsburgh. Fuck Pittsburgh. Right. You know, it's just people just get wrapped up in this idea that if somehow or another Biden
Starting point is 02:47:08 stays in office, everything's going to be great. If Trump gets in office, the world's going to end. Yeah. Or vice versa. Or vice versa. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, bro, you know what's so funny is almost nothing will change no matter who it is. Some things will change. Like, that's where I'm
Starting point is 02:47:24 at. Yeah, I mean, surface level things will change, but, like, the main agenda, the real powers that be, they ain't letting you. You know, they let little stuff change so you feel like you have power. Right. But the main agenda, that shit ain't shifting. Well, what's interesting is if we're going to find out how much power they really have to decide who becomes president, because if Trump wins, like what do they do? What do they do then? Let him be president from prison? I don't know. Do you think he has a real shot at going to prison?
Starting point is 02:48:07 No No Listen I think it's cute It's cute But look man again Money talk bullshit When When has
Starting point is 02:48:20 A billionaire Ever Gone to prison for any reason other than fucking with other rich people's money. That's the only time you see people that rich go to prison. There's no other time. There's no... So it's like
Starting point is 02:48:36 this hope that he's going to be the first one, I highly doubt it. I could be wrong, but generally, people that are his rich, they don't go to prison. We were just talking about that the other day. They didn't even put the Sackler family in jail. Right.
Starting point is 02:48:51 When did you? Because they was fucking with poor people. They put Bernie Madoff in jail. They put Elizabeth Holmes in jail. They put the Enron dudes, they put them down because they was fucking with other rich people. But as long as you stick to fucking with poor people or trying to cheat, you ain't going to prison. You're not. I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:49:13 If Trump actually goes to prison, that will mark some kind of progress, I suppose. You know? But at the end of the day, they all look out for each other. But not really. Because if you could target your political enemies and have them locked up to prevent them from being able to run against you, that's some Banana Republic shit. That's where it gets dangerous because they could use it on the other people too. Right, exactly. The smart people know that what you're actually doing is setting a precedent. Yes. And it's real fine when it's happening to the person you want it to happen to.
Starting point is 02:49:49 Exactly. But what happens when the other side has that power? Exactly. It's going to be a problem. It's going to be a big problem. Yeah, and that's also why they never really lock each other up, why they always pardon one another and all that. Because they know whatever precedent they set, it could happen to them.
Starting point is 02:50:07 To pardon things, why? I wouldn't even be shocked. Actually, I don't think Biden can pardon Trump because it's not a federal thing. I think it's a state thing. But I wouldn't be surprised if the governor of Georgia pardons Trump. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:50:24 Just to prevent a constitutional crisis because there's nothing in the Constitution that tells us what to do if a former president goes to prison. Didn't we just talk about that? Someone, someone, no. I think the governor of Georgia doesn't have the power to pardon him. No? I'm thinking they don't. I think someone just told me this.
Starting point is 02:50:49 Okay. Let me see. I think it's one of those weird cases. Georgia is one of the four states whose governor does not have the authority to grant clemency, although the governor retains indirect influence by virtue of his power to appoint board members. That's what this says when looking up parties. That's even better. That's crazy. So then he could have the board do it and not take a political hit.
Starting point is 02:51:13 Yes. I think it's even more likely. The governor does not have the authority to hand out pardons. So who can hand out pardons? A five-person state board. Interesting. Wow. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:51:23 Oh, this is spicy. Interesting. Spiral. Brian Simpson, this is spicy. Interesting. Spiral. Brian Simpson, I got to wrap this up. Let's get it. Thank you, brother. Very good to see you, as always. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:51:32 It's been a lot of fun. Thanks for having me, man. My pleasure. It's been a lot of fun hanging with you at the club. Tell everybody upcoming tour dates, social media. Oh, yeah. The next place I'm coming to is Chicago. Go to briansimpsonComedy.com
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