The Joe Rogan Experience - #2038 - Trae Tha Truth

Episode Date: September 21, 2023

Trae Tha Truth is a rapper, record producer, and philanthropist. His new album "Stuck In Motion" will be available October 20. http://onerpm.link/stuckinmotion

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. What's up, Trey? Good to see you. Cool, and what's up, my brother? Hey, I got a question for you, and everyone who wears grills. All right, I got Invisalign on, and I'm trying to talk with Invisalign, and every time I've tried it, I bailed out of it. How the fuck do you talk so clear with a grill on?

I think we just get used to it, especially from Houston. You know, it's just our culture. Yeah, I want to meet Paul Wall and ask him. He seems like the guy who understands grills more than anybody. Yeah, yeah. Because, like, Post Malone had one on, and then you hear him sing and talk, and he sounds perfect, but I can hear it in my voice.

His might be implanted. I don't know if his was a grill. Implanted. Oh, like where they dig into your teeth and glue it in there? I think so. Yeah. Yeah, I ain't hit that phase. How's yours on?

Your slides in and you can slide it out? Yeah, yeah. I don't eat with them. I just keep them on throughout the day. Do you ever leave it somewhere accidentally? Never. That's something people do a lot. They used to always, coming up younger, they used to put them in napkins or put it in their pocket and allow it to throw them away and everything.

Yeah. Yeah. I already lost one like that. Yeah, a lot of people did. Yeah. But I didn't lose a grill. I just lost Invisalign. That's what I'm saying.

It's like the wimpiest version of a grill. So what's happening, man? How you doing? Man, blessed. Just in work mode in all aspects, man. Work mode. What's work mode for you? Like, what happens?

It depends on which world, because, you know, of course, music-wise, that's my first and foremost. But then the hometown hero side and then just helping people and being a daddy is just work all around the clock right right what is this hometown hero stuff uh that's what they label me you know well they label me that in houston when i got to the point they label me that everywhere just for the the help i do whether it be disasters, whether it be just assisting with people, whether it be front line for the community, whether it be fighting for justice, whether it be just assisting and caring for the town the way that I do. You know, my son's name is Houston.

That's how much Houston I am. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun seeing you backstage at the Post Malone concert. Yeah, it's one of my little brothers, man. A lot of people don't realize the history with me and a lot of artists. I remember when Post was first coming up.

That's how far back we go, man. I've always been supportive and just always had his back. So, you know, it's been that way with a lot of artists. So whenever they see me, it'll be super excitement. Yeah, no, it's cool. It's cool to see that respect. It's like a thing. You got to stop in and check in with Trey when you come to Houston.

But, you know, it's not the forceful way. It's more of a love way. Yeah, no, it's a nice way. It's a nice way. You were saying you never smoked and you never drank your whole life no never smoke never drink man how did you dodge that so crazy story is man coming from where I come from most people smoke and drink you know when they tend to go through stuff just dealing with life you know that's what kind of put their mind at ease and I was always one of the people

I felt like I'm a deal with a head up. However it hit me at that moment, it can't get no worse than that. So I always just decided to not do it because at the end of the day, when I got done smoking or drinking, if that's what I decided to do, the reality is still going to kick in. So I'd rather just deal with the shit head up.

That's a good mindset. But smoking or drinking is fun. I watch everybody around me do it all day, every day. Well, there's nothing that sort of illuminates the problems with alcohol like watching someone be drunk and you're sober. You know, man, I've always been more of a protector my whole life, so I'm always just watching the atmosphere anyway, so it don't really bother me.

I'll be watching out just to make sure everybody's straight at all times right so you're like the designated driver i don't mean that way you know i'm saying just like the the the wise sober person in the room keeping everybody together yeah um it is an interesting thing because uh we we all know so many people that have ruined their lives because of that you know just gets away from them that's all they want to do smoke and drink and your life just kind of gets away from you you're just escaping it instead of being in it you know man something that I realized everybody not built built to be that strong and everybody not able to deal with a lot of things you know sometimes

that's the escape goal and I want to one is not to judge I just if it suits you and that's for you you know you gotta do what you gotta do that's a good way of looking at it too because that is true that we all have different levels of ability of handling shit yeah and especially when it come but when you know you get into into tricky things like alcohol or pills. Pills is a tricky one. Pills can be dangerous. It doesn't seem like anybody can handle those. We had Kurt Angle on the other day.

Oh, yeah. From WWE, and, you know, he developed a pain pill problem because he broke his neck like five times. Damn. I didn't even know that. He got fucked up. His neck is fucked up, it's crazy. And we watched some clips of him doing it, but I mean, this guy won the gold medal in the Olympics

with a broken neck and he still got hooked on pills. I could imagine only because once you get used to that pain and that's what's putting you at ease, you gotta, you know, you go from a couple to, let me just go and get a few more in so I can make sure I'm good throughout the day. Yeah, it just becomes a part of your body. You can't get away from it. But you got to be cautious, man, because now you got fentanyl and all that other shit.

Every time I see something with that, I rarely see somebody make it through that. That one for sure going to kill you. So you got to be cautious. Yeah, that's the real problem with getting stuff off the street. If you're trying to get coke off the street, they're not making it to Pfizer lab. It's not like you're not getting the same batch every time. You don't know what the fuck you're getting if you don't know the guy who's buying it from the people. You don't know what the source is.

Yeah, you even got, it's so crazy, you can even find weed laced with the shit. So it's just, man, everything can be fucked up. Why would they lace weed with it? Never know. Never know, but as many people as this shit affecting are hitting and passing from it. It's definitely something that they're doing.

You know, because weed is illegal in a lot of states ninety percent of the weed that's grown that's sold in these states where it's illegal is grown on public land by the cartels because in the places where weed is legal like California it's only a misdemeanor if you're growing weed without a permit. It's not a big deal. So they just set up shop in the national forests in places where they're not supposed to be, and they grow weed. Because if they get caught, it's not that big of a deal, but they want to protect their product too.

So these guys who used to be game wardens, now they have tactical teams with dogs and shit and and you know mp4s and machine guns and they're going through the the woods fighting the cartel it's wild you know you see it in the movies but you know that's what having a real life for real for real for real for real and he was explaining to me how um it's really dangerous because they use all these like super toxic pesticides and shit that no one else is allowed to use like you can't really use that if you're growing especially if you're growing something organically which is ideal so they're using all kinds of shit that's like super toxic

yeah and then it's that mean it's gonna weigh down and affect the people for sure for sure yeah and isn't it crazy that all that is just because it's illegal? Man, I'm not sure when, but I'm assuming they're going to have to make it legal in Texas at some point, man. At some point. It seems silly, especially because Texas is supposed to be all about freedom. You know, I had a conversation with this guy Alex Berenson yesterday. He's a reporter. He used to work for the New York Times. conversation with this guy Alex Berenson yesterday he's a reporter used to work for the New York Times and he's you know he pointed out it's like everybody wants

freedom but if you get that freedom and everything's legal you're gonna have a bunch of drug overdoses you wouldn't have you're gonna have a bunch of people that are addicted you wouldn't have gotten addicted if it was illegal they wouldn't have bought it and because it's legal you're gonna have to deal with that and it's true but it's an uncomfortable truth. The flip side of that is I've yet to see anybody really pass away from weed. Yeah. Even from cancer, right? Right.

They're smoking it every day. They're not getting lung cancer. That's crazy. Right. So that's the only part they get it confused why they haven't made it legal as fast. I mean, if there's things like, know the opiates if they're legal you can get those but you can't get weed that seems silly that just seems silly it doesn't make any sense i think honestly man the reason why it's probably not just because they haven't

figured out a way to monetize off of it well the problem is you can't patent it right so like if you're selling you know whatever it is some thyroid medication or something you can't patent it right so like if you're selling you know whatever it is some thyroid medication or something you can patent that and then it's your medication that you invented and then you own the patent on so you get all the profits from it but when it's a plant that whole model gets like thrown into the bushes like you can't do shit everybody can grow it you just all you need is dirt and water and you can can get the drug. And then a name. Yeah. You can rename it as much as you want.

Yeah. Yeah, and then you can name as many strains as you want. It's the Wild West out there. But you couldn't, if it was patented, maybe that's what they would want to do is make like a genetic strain, like a Monsanto-type weed where they can completely control it yeah definitely because that's the you know because they know that's going to be their money maker yeah it seems like it's just such a conundrum because i you know i i admire people like you that no no alcohol no weed no nothing just. I admire that. It just builds us to be a little stronger, you know,

because, man, I done been through so much shit in life and watched a lot of people go through stuff, stuff that may take their life because it may be real crucial, but when you get to getting to the point of where I am, you deal with everything, hear it up. It's like it ain't really much. It ain't like it's a breeze or a cakewalk every time but for the most part we'd be like man it'll be i'll deal with it and you know that's what keep me going well i guess also if you get used to just dealing with shit then you get strong at dealing with shit whereas if you're just

drowning it out all the time then that becomes a habit but it's so crazy it's a it became even a bigger habit for me right uh i don't know how long ago it was when i got shot but when i got shot they ended up um they actually crazy thing is they never they didn't do surgery or anything right i got shot it was so many people outside the hospital that they were like man we need to get him out of here because they they never seen nothing like that so they don't know if the people outside was against me or was for me they just never seen it so um long story short um left got home cleaned around and just got the bleed and the stop but um days later they tried to prescribe me medicine

i think i took the medicine probably for the first five six days and then once i decided that i could make it through half a day without it i'm just like man fuck it i'm just it can't get no worse than this you know i'm saying it only get better so dealing with with that, that's just, it developed a habit of anything I do. I just go at it about that way. I don't know if you ever seen on YouTube, I took the bullet out myself. Jesus. Yeah, yeah. But it's just.

Where'd you get shot? I got shot directly in my back. And it shattered my shoulder blade and spent to my shoulder. So it sat there for like four or five years. And it's so crazy, right, when you hear people tell you the stories. There it is? Yeah. So that's me taking it out.

So it was pushing out how long after you got shot? Yeah, about five. It could have been like five years. Five years. So the bullet was still working its way out of your skin for five years. Wow, dude that's crazy. And went on and continued my day. Did you get it stitched up at least?

No. Really? Yeah, but it healed like it was supposed to, man. The fact that I'm not doing surgery on me, when I got shot and it healed, that was a cakewalk at that point. Why didn't they want to do surgery? One, I don't know if for them not having, I guess for how many people was there so fast

and then them not being able to go in and know if it's somewhere that was damaging or however you want to put the words. But that shit, they were like, man, we got to get them up out of here. And that was just the reality of it. But the only bad thing is because they didn't move it and it was there, it got tangled up in a lot of my nerves and muscle. So, like, if you ever pay attention to me, like I can't lift my arm directly straight up or do a lot of different things because it was sitting in there for so many years. That's got to piss you off because they could have just pulled that out, right?

Yeah, definitely, because it was so close to the edge. Because from the time I got shot to the time it came out, you could always feel it. So it was that close that's the thing about doctors like you get a really good doctor or you can get a doctor it's like no fucking leave it in there and this and it's crazy right man because you i help a lot of kids in life and you watch some of these doctors they take a a personal liking and loving to these kids and you know just trying to figure out ways to help them. Even some of the elders.

And then you got some people like, shit, it ain't going to work. They ain't going to make it. You know what I'm saying? That's the fucked up part about it. Yeah. Well, I think some people get real calloused, unfortunately. I see a lot of people die and then they lose their feeling for it. And other people never do.

That's the best thing about great doctors is you just really appreciate them if someone who really cares you really appreciate them that that extra that extra let's try one more time sometimes can change everything as opposed to there's nothing else we can do. Yeah, especially when someone's got a bullet in their shoulder. Just get it out of there, man. Especially when it's right there. Like how far below the surface was it like when you first went in? No, so when I first went in, it was literally, it was just buzzing. So it was like at the skin?

Yeah, so if you do this, you could always, always feel it. So if you do this, you could always, always feel it. So, like, when you look at the video that was on YouTube, by that point, it broke the skin on its own. Because, you know, you'll hear stories like bullets gone, they'll push their way out. You'll hear the stories during rain or cold weather that make you feel some way. Like, that shit really for real. It makes sense. I mean, there's a piece of metal in you. That's everybody says that has like broken arms when they get plates they get plates and

their arms are in their legs a lot of fighters say that when it's cold out it just sucks oh they i didn't even think of it i ain't never had a broken bone so yeah yeah yeah when they break you know a lot of times like when you break your forearm they have to do that It's pretty gnarly man you ever seen anybody get it done a lot of people they do it from a spinning back fest They throw a spinning back fest and they hit the forearm We had their forearm and someone's forehead and it snaps that way or they they're blocking kicks but when they do it man the whole arm has to be cut open they got to put a bar in there and screws and and tighten it all together they take it back out or just stay there forever it depends you can get it taken back out some guys

have to get it taken back out because the screws start backing out and they start poking through the skin it makes it really painful you know especially if you're trying to kick or block kicks or punch or anything like that and that's crazy as much as a diehard ufc fan my one thing about that is watching them kick i don't understand how they don't break their leg every time they kick even though i know they do different procedures to make it hard and yeah the different procedures don't really prevent it it's it makes it definitely tougher. Like there's some Thai guys who have crazy shins because they've been like kicking bamboo trees and, you know, kicking pads and heavy bags and bags with sand in them. They've been doing that their whole lives. So they have like really dense, like really dense shin bones. And they just swat people with those. Like they're baseball bats. There's this dude, I think his name is Malapai, and he was fighting in a lion fight, and this dude would just go shin to shin with everybody,

just kick them in the shins, just kick them in the shins. They just couldn't tolerate it. He would hit so fucking hard, and just his bones were just so dense because he'd been doing it forever but even those guys like they have to be careful like you know I'm sure Anderson Silva has very dense bones I was just going to say that was

crazy that was crazy to watch like an all time great snap his leg like that like no you know that was one of the favorites still one of the favorites though he oh he's one of the greatest of all time one of the greatest of all time he was a master at finding people's chins he's a master master at like finding when's the opening blam he was so good you know somebody that people slept on that if you had to be original UFC fan Vitor Belfort hands was probably

some of the coldest when he when he was young coming in yeah nobody had hands like him at 19 he fought Trey Telegman that was his first fight I remember and um he from Texas right yeah Dallas yeah yeah I believe so he was one of the um uh lion's den guys fucking jack big huge dude. And they thought Vitor, because he was a black belt in jiu-jitsu from the Carlson Gracie family, they thought that he was just going to do jiu-jitsu. And this dude just comes out and puts on a boxing clinic. And you're like, whoa.

He couldn't get away from it. Him and who else? Did he get Vanderlei Silva? Scott Feroza was the next fight he had. And then, yeah, he fought Vanderlei Silva. He ran across the ring and just blitzed him with punches. That was crazy. See if you can find that.

Vitor Belfort versus Vanderlei Silva. I mean, this is crazy. You know what's so crazy? At the time, it didn't do Vanderlei no justice because nobody knew. He ended up turning out to be good as can be. Oh, yeah. Belfort flushed right through that shit. Well, he just caught him and kept him caught.

He just banged once, and then Vitor will just flurry. He flurried. But, yeah, you're right, because Vanderlei did become an all-time great after that, too. Yeah, but see, then people didn't know. There you go. I mean, it's just a blitz. I mean, Vitor had some crazy hands, just crazy hands. And he was terrified of Vanderlei.

Everybody was terrified of Vanderlei. I didn't know that. That's why they called him the axe murderer. That was his nickname. I didn't know that at all. Vanderlei would just stare at you like this and do this shit with his hands before the fights. And everybody's like, oh, this fucking guy. I think Vitor, man, once he gained all the weight, that's when he ended up taking the first L.

Well, he got way too big but the problem with vitor at that time i think was that you're starting to see this emergence of these big giant wrestlers so like mark coleman was the best example and mark coleman was like you know 260 solid as a rock giant jacked super athletic wrestler he took everybody down and everybody's like oh my god this guy's so big I gotta get big too they felt like that was the only way to beat Mark Coleman so there was like a bunch of guys who started getting really big but you know that comes with a gas tank problem you can't get that big with that frame he just couldn't survive and then when he fought Randy

Couture Randy just outworked him yeah and. Yeah. Randy was good. Randy was very good. Yeah, yeah. Randy was very good. A lot of people don't, man. I used to. That's how far back I go. I used to have the VHS's to when they were doing the tournaments the whole day where you fight more than once. Yeah.

In the year. So I've been. I used to watch UFC like crazy, man. The tournaments were wild. They fought more than once in a night. I don't think they could do that no more. Well, they did it in glory kickboxing a few years back. They did it in L.A.

I think it was called Last Man Standing. I think those guys, I want to say they fought three times in a night against world-class kickboxers. You know? Just bananas. Who else was, Tank was good back then. Tank had the. Oh, Tank Abbott, yeah.

Oh, he was an animal, yeah. He was the first guy to figure out to wrap your hands. Tank Abbott was the first guy to figure out, like, if you have MMA gloves on, you actually could punch harder. Because, like, it's harder to punch someone bare knuckle. You break your hands easier. But if you could really wrap your hands up and put gloves on it's probably better and so tank would he was one of the first guys to put those gloves he might have been the first guy but he's definitely one of the first guys who was like a big power puncher who put gloves on yeah when he did the dude with

a dude was hanging with his neck down you remember that one one? Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. Scott Nelmark, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. No, he was an animal. He was the worst case scenario. A guy who liked to drink, talked a lot of shit, and can fight.

Like, God damn it. And he fought anybody. He didn't give a fuck. He just fought anybody. Whoever. He fought anybody they put in front of him. Never said no.

Yeah. Tank was one of them. He was one of those guys too and he would show up people would go crazy they loved it they loved that tank was there you know somebody else like these they even though he's my brother but still the beast the same way people love no matter oh yeah we were just talking about him when we had kurt angle on i was saying if anybody could transition from their mma career pro wrestling. It's the beast. Yeah, yeah.

He could do it. Derrick Lewis could 100% be a superstar pro wrestler. 100%. If he decided to retire from fighting, he would be huge. He's hilarious. Yeah, definitely. And he's gigantic. He's got all the qualities that you need to be a good pro wrestler. Yeah, and the people love him.

You know what's so crazy? Me and him, we saved a lot of lives together during Hurricane Harvey. We went and took care of Beaumont, Port Arthur. Matter of fact, it's so crazy. I got my lifted truck out there. That's the reason I bought it. I bought it because of him because at first I was doing rescues and boats and doing different stuff.

But then Derek came through in the lifted truck, and we were going past the boats in the water. So at that point, I ended up buying a truck. But we saved a lot of people together. You know, that's one of my close, close brothers. That's why whenever y'all see me at the fights and he fighting, everybody be looking because I be on my feet yelling like crazy. No, Derrick's the man.

He's hilarious. I'll never forget when he took his shorts off. I'm like, Derrick, why are your shorts off? My balls is off. But it paid off because they ain't got a Manscaped commercial. Yeah, he should have a Manscaped commercial. He should have a whole campaign. He's hilarious.

Yeah, it's a wild sport, huh? I mean, that's how I got to meet you, you know, from you coming to the fights. But it's, yeah, I appreciate that you enjoy it, too. Yeah, shout out John Anik, too. You know, he for sure was, he like, man, you and Joe, I got to get you all two together, man. Did he say that? Yeah.

Yeah, John Anik is the man. I love that, too. That guy's the best play-by-play commentator in the history of the sport. He's the best. He's the GOAT. He's so smooth, man. When he called that Leon Edwards head kick right before leon landed it on kamaru usman because they were saying we were talking about it like you know he's down in this fight and you know it's like you know his

his corner's yelling at him don't give up rock go get him you see and and john annick goes but that is not the cloth from which he's cut and then boom he lands a headshot i mean it's crazy it's like a scene like if you if that was in a movie you'd go like that's too dead on no one would no one would make a call like that but y'all see y'all see it so much as probably man y'all see a lot of stuff coming well now because i watch y'all expression some shit y'all don't be seeing. I didn't see that coming, man. I did not see that coming. That was crazy. See if you can find that. Play that.

Because it's like a historical moment. When Anik says it, it's like he captured it. It's really like a scene in a movie. It doesn't... It's like... See? Show it to it. Show it. I don show it to it show it that's got music behind it oh okay oh you have two things going on at the same time the tank had a video going on and then

i had music okay so listen to this because this is crazy that he nails it leon edwards but that is not the cloth from which he is cut. I mean, that is a dejected. They got you. They got you. Everybody's got to edit everything. These motherfuckers, they can't just leave shit alone. I linked it from an article about the call, too.

Well, that's it. Yeah, John Anik's the man yeah he's just so smooth that's a hard job man the job the job of the color commentator is way easier the job of like my job and daniel's job like when dc and i do it we're just having fun like we don't have to do any traffic like he's like directing traffic and this brought to you by Modelo. He's got to do all that stuff. And I never noticed the difference. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You, if you notice the difference, if you pay attention, it's like, he does much more work. He's way better.

Like he's like coordinated. Like he's got, he's got notes and he's got index cards and shit. You know, he has to say certain things at certain times about prime energy drink and this movie's coming up and this and that. There's little things you have to jump in. Toyo tires.

You have to jump in with all that stuff. I thought that was all. Yeah, I didn't know it was just him. DC and I are eating snacks and having a good time watching the fights. Yeah, see, he's got cards and shit. Look at him all jabbed up. Yeah, he gets excited. He's the man.

Love that dude. The three of us together is so much fun. Definitely, man. I watch y'all all the time. Man, you know, my wishes that I really want to see, I want to see Derrick get a championship, and I want to see Dustin Poirier get one of them too. Two of my closest, man.

I just, they be right there at the edge, man. Yeah. Even the time that, the thing with Derrick, most people ain't going to be able to withstand the flurry once he gets you. Once he hits you. Yeah, but a couple people got lucky and got through it and just threw me off. But that's what I want. I want at least them to at least get their chance to beat Champ one time. Well, listen, Derek can knock anybody out.

I mean, that crazy flying knee that he opened up his last fight. It was worth it. He practiced it. Yeah, it was crazy. He just nailed him right out the gate. If Derek does that to anybody, they're on skates. He hit so hard. He's got the most knockouts of anyone in the history of the division.

Yeah. Definitely do. And the crazy thing with him, it can be at the end of the fight. Yeah. All it takes is one for him at the end of the fight. Yeah. All it takes is one for him. He's always got it. Yeah. Yeah, he carries that power late.

I thought Dustin even was going to win this last fight. That kick came, you know. But Dustin, I feel like boxing-wise, Dustin still, he mastered that from his weave game to everything. He's very good. He's very, very good. But so is gaethje yeah yeah not to take none from him and dustin got him in the first fight the first fight justin got him and it was a uh dustin rather got him and it was a hell of a war and gaethje got him in this

one but the way he got him like oh my god that head kick and the crazy thing was it's in the same arena in salt lake city that they hear a year later from the Kamaru Usman knockout. It's basically the same knockout. It's the same knockout. The way Leon Edwards knocks out Kamaru with the left leg is exactly what Justin Gage did with the right leg. Same thing. It shows the punch, the kicks behind the punch. Same thing.

Amazing. Yeah, crazy. I didn't know that. Yeah. Somebody played a video or somebody made a video of the two of them back to back. See if you can find that. It's like you could see one plays out and then the other one plays out. And it's almost identical, just mirrored, just the different legs.

Left leg versus right leg. But Justin's a monster, man. Justin Gagey, he's on fire right now. He's on fire. I mean, he's only lost to the best in the division you know like charles oliver and khabib and a couple other guys like dustin but he at right now he's on fire he's on fire especially that last fight and then the fight before that with fazeev that guy's a beast too and they that was an amazing fight so justin is like he's at the top of the heap i would love to see him fight for the

title like whoever wins this weekend with uh or uh when is that october 21st right now when is the olivera one yeah that sounds october 21st yeah when that when that card takes place like that is that's going to be a very interesting thing to see who gets the next shot at it because Justin Gaethje versus the winner that would be really interesting look at this so here's Leon's kick on the left and then Justin's on the right same exact thing

wild right that's crazy wild and that's two head kicks to win the title you know a year apart from each other in Salt Lake City like Salt Lake City's got some magic in the air definitely if that happened back to back in the arena yes yeah it's uh it's a crazy sport man when did you when you first started getting into it oh man

since way back then with the with the gracies and the ken shamrocks uh all that i used to get them from blockbuster that's when i um oh yeah i used to i still probably got them bhs tapes man that's all yeah yeah so it was it was in the beginning phases man that's how i got introduced to uh to it too i got a ufc two picked it up, a Hollywood video. And I was like, what is this? And I remember immediately thinking, oh, my God, I have to learn jiu-jitsu. These guys are all getting killed. When you watch Hoist Gracie strangle everybody and break everybody's arms.

I don't know how tall he is in person, but he's probably one of the smallest people, it seemed like, looking at it from a fan standpoint. He's skinny, too, right? Oh, yeah. Hoist was 176 pounds. When he was tapping out guys like Dan Severn, who was like a beast 250-pound wrestler, he was so good, man. And no one knew what to do. They had never seen Gracie Jiu-Jitsu before.

knew what to do they had never seen Gracie Jiu Jitsu before he was the perfect advertisement for Jiu Jitsu too because it wasn't like he was built like he wasn't like jacked like Tyron Woodley or something or someone like super jacked Brock Lesnar now he's like a thin normal looking guy

who fucked everybody up I'm talking about literally would choke the shit out of people and he was doing it to everybody, man. It was interesting. It was really interesting because so many people just didn't know what to do with him. And he was fighting with that gi on, which I think they let him keep fighting with the gi on. I think in a lot of his future fights, he would have had better results too.

Because he had some fights with no gi. And it's like, man, hoist with the gi was just a master. A master at choking you with it a master getting you to grab it so he could initiate grappling exchanges yeah that was his that was his boy that one family and particularly hoist but that one family they changed martial arts forever do any of them still fight none of them fight in the no no none of them i mean they're they're all quite a bit older, you know. But talk about a family that had all-time great jiu-jitsu people coming out of it.

I mean, that's insane that one family really influenced the way martial arts is expressed all over the world. And people are learning Brazilian jiu-jitsu in Russia. They're learning it in France and they're learning it in Ireland. It's one family. It's crazy in Ireland. It's one family. It's crazy, man. It's really crazy. If anybody learned it from him, it would be him. People need to go do their research and go back and watch some of his fights.

Looking at him, you would have no idea. Yeah. Yeah, hoist was something really special because we'd never seen that before. You know, it was the first time we'd ever seen something where the martial art was more important in size and strength. If you were actually a smaller person who's proficient in this martial art, because that's what most martial arts promise you, that you would be able to beat a bigger person. But there's some physical issues. If you're a 135-pound guy and you're fighting Derek Lewis,

you got a real problem. You got a real problem. You got a real problem, a size problem, that I don't think you're going to be able to surmount. He's going to slap your ass across that ring. If he hits you once, you're in a coma. There's no way. He's too big.

You're not going to be able to just take him down. It's going to be wild. He's going to throw you off him. He's going to kick you. He's going to punch you. You're fucked. He's too big. But with jiu-jitsu,itsu it became if he didn't know jujitsu and hoist got a hold of him he could avoid the damage drag him to the ground and submit him and we had never seen

that before it was always if you saw two guys slugging it out you know it was generally they were either the same size if it was like a boxing or kickboxing fight or if they weren't the big guy always killed the small guy always and the ufc was the first time we saw this one guy who was like normal sized guy not crazy muscles nothing just dominate everybody we're like what is he doing, he definitely was one of the faces starting the UFC. What is he doing? Yeah. Then when you first went to see one live, when was that?

Crazy. I think Derek had me come out to, it was in Houston. That was my first time. It was him. I was with him and John Jones. And we were giving out, we actually gave out bump boxes too. And from there, me and Dana got real close and just the whole team.

And it's been that way since. You know, I ended up doing a deal with Dana not long after you know as far as the licensing and stuff with Bump Box so that's why you see UFC across a lot of stuff and a lot of stuff within what they got going on oh that's awesome so you guys got a collaboration together yeah yeah that's beautiful that's why you see me every time at the fights you'll see me backstage but like when we do the weigh-ins and stuff yeah yeah we make sure we take care of all the fighters and other stuff. You know what's great that you gave me? That tumbler that has a speaker at the bottom of it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did a partnership with Gronkowski. And it's actually growing. People really still ain't even realizing there's a speaker on the cup. They're just thinking it's a cool shaker cup, but no. It's something dope, man. It's a a cool shaker cup but no it's something dope man it's a great idea well actually you know you got the first um and post probably gonna be mad because i gotta get his but you got you got the first cornhole with the speakers you know we oh really

we own the rights to that any cornhole that has any type of music on it that's us so we had a first um official cornhole with speakers on it and you can pair them together so as you're playing the game you can just vibe out alright

yeah that's a great beach game definitely but I can't believe it's on ESPN now tailgate yeah tailgate and beach

yeah it's fun oh it's a sport now on TV I think it's on TV oh yeah it is there's people that are surprisingly really good at it. Let me see.

They can do a lot of shit. Let me see some fucking pro cornhole. Like, what do you win? A bunch of money? Yeah, they do, like, tournaments in Vegas, I think, at the end of the day. But, like, let's see if I can find one with a lot of views. I've seen they're calling out what they need to do, and they just do it. That's great.

It's like the whole three hours. Hold on a second. Yo, Bump Box, man, just do it. That's crazy. This is like the whole three hours. Hold on a second. Yo, Bump Box, man, it's been a blessing for us. You know, shout out to all my partners there. We took the company from just a few radios, just, you know, getting them out there to NAS worldwide. So here's the World Championships championships American Cornhole League Okay this is a top shots

Let's see These guys stand around a lot One in the hole He did it without hitting the other bags Which is kind of like That's pretty fucking tough to do Is that better? Yeah because those bags are probably tied to the other team

Right So if you knock them in they get the points if you don't do that then you get the points oh that's crazy this guy's doing it with a mask on I hope I missed so you see how he actually got it in and knocked the other one off

you see how it's standing up with the oh everybody has a mask this must have been during COVID I'm sorry they probably forced him to wear that mask. You heard me, Joe? You see I'm standing up with the legs? So wherever the legs are, those are actual speakers. Nice.

What a great idea. Yeah, they're making these people wear masks. How stupid is this? But we're going to look back on the masks and go, what the fuck were we doing? What the fuck were we doing? But COVID fucked up a lot of shit for everything, man. At this point, I realize

just from helping so many people in the community in general, I realized how damaging it was. Business-wise, I watched how damaging it was because now if you pay attention to some of the new movies that come out, it just goes straight to streaming at this point.

Yes. Yeah, so I don't know if that helped money for the movies, but it seemed like it definitely hurt. I don't think it does, and I don't think it's good for the actors either. I think that's part of the strike. I'm kind of speaking out of turn here because I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about. Is that part of it? Is that they want more money from streaming? Yeah, but it's a lot of the actors

that you know are not top build type people you know they get paid one fee and then they're never going to get residuals right so that they're trying to get some of those residuals and stuff's getting resold that's definitely part of it and there's other things involved too bro you know what they're doing that's wild they're trying some of these studios are trying to make people sign contracts if you do background work where they could just use your likeness from then on so they could repurpose you in other background scenes as cgi them they're like kind of like them licensing your name yeah so permanently i guess you for like nothing that's the culture of uh you know people that aren't stars over there and movies though You know extras are not they don't think about it that way

It's really interesting because like they're going to be able to make movies with it They're gonna be able to make a movie with you Or you speak Chinese and you you know you you run an army somewhere I mean they can do whatever they want they can with with CGI and with this new AI voice stuff they could literally do whatever they want and they could turn Any person who's already been in a bunch of films where they have your face they could put you in all kinds of scenes Like we're real close to them not needing actors anymore, which is kind of weird Yeah, and that's, and that even just,

not just the actors, just even with us with music, you know, like, at first when they say something about it and they may say something about it, you can put a Michael Jackson

and somebody else on the same record. You know, of course, you'd be curious to be like, shit, dope, I wonder what that sound like, but then when you start thinking about it,

they damn, they won't really need us at some point because now they, they making your voice sound the same they're making you look the same like it's just the shit weird but one thing i know man that them the the bigger companies they don't find a way to block this shit somehow some way because that's that's taking all the money it's definitely going to change things, right? Like that Drake song that got put out,

that was a fake Drake song, the AI-created Drake song, people loved it. Yeah. They can do wild shit now, man. It's like we're not that far away from them being able to replicate full movies, all fake people, you know, I'll be watching from a, I'll be watching from a distance.

Like I'm, I'm watching a lot of the robot stuff start to really come to life now, you know, and it's just, does it freak you out? Yeah. So for two reasons, one,

because definitely at this point, shit, anything, if anything go wrong at this point, damn their fuck cuz they build them down there invincible yeah but to the other part that freaked me out is they show this shit in movies years back and everything that they show is coming to be that exact think about it even with Colbert right if you go look at some of the other movies where you have different pandemics same so then when you go to seeing with the the row what year will smith came out

with that movie that was i robot yeah that was great that could have been was that 10 years ago maybe or maybe more yeah but to see that now it's like it's like they'd be knowing it's crazy what was it? 20 years ago. That's even crazy. 20 years ago and not looking at what we're dealing with right now. Yeah, we're about 10 years away from that being real. They've already developed these very lifelike robots. They're doing the first human Neuralink person soon.

And this is what Elon just tweeted an hour ago with that. When a Neuralink is combined with Optimus robot limbs, the Luke Skywalker solution can be real. Can become real. Holy fuck. Click on that, man. Let me see that. This is-

Oh, this is actually- Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just showing what it would look like. I thought it really was that. Not yet. How could they have it? Probably one day they'll just have a fake hand. Yeah, they're getting the first person.

They're looking for someone with quadriplegia right now to do it. Whether or not they found that person over the last few days, I don't know. Whoa. We are watching something. We're watching the seeds of something that's going to overcome the human race. Yeah, and that shit is not good. That shit is just when you think about it. But, of course, you know, you think that shit will be far gone past our time,

but then you still got to think of our kids and those generations because it's definitely going to be dangerous. It's definitely going to be dangerous, but, yeah, they're going to have, our kids and their kids are going to have a totally different world that they live in. Yeah, especially with the, you watch movies with the flying car shit. Now they're really technically getting it together. That is the last thing you want. People have a hard enough time just slamming into each other on the street, on the ground.

I noticed yesterday that there's a flying taxi warehouse opening up in Ohio next month, or next year. Whoa. Is it true they got one in New York? Are you going to fly in one of those things? flying taxi warehouse opening up in Ohio next month or next year. Whoa. Is it true they got one in New York? Are you going to fly in one of those things? I have no idea. Do they have one in New York already? That's not true.

Did they start doing that in New York? I don't know why they would do it in New York. There is one right there. Yeah, New York definitely has the Blade system, which is like Uber helicopter kind of thing. I don't know if they have something like this. Uber helicopter. They have that? They use that. That's't know if they have something like this. Uber helicopter. They have that? And that's in the,

they use that. That's part of what the problem was in N-Cut Gems. Like that wasn't around then. Remember he uses that helicopter to fly from. Oh yeah. You can do it from like the, from Manhattan to the airport and just skip all the traffic.

Get there in 20 minutes. Jesus. Helicopters freak me out. I don't know about these. I went up with Bill Burr. It was a lot of fun. Bill Burr is a helicopter pilot. He took me around downtown LA.

Yeah, he's one of my favorite comedians, man. I don't know if it's his voice or what, but yeah. Oh, he's hilarious. Yeah. He's so good. Such a good guy. But he's a pilot, and so he took me in a helicopter around downtown LA. You can kind of go wherever you want.

It is like a flying car. That's what they thought the flying car was going to be. They thought helicopters, when they first invented them, they thought it was going to be a flying car. No, what they thought the flying car was going to be. They thought helicopters, when they first invented them, they thought it was going to be a flying car. No, I didn't know that. Yeah, that was the... See if you can find the original helicopter. Because I think that's literally what they were selling it as.

What do you mean? The original helicopter that was... Just write... Not Leonardo DiCaprio. Invention... Da Vinci. Oh, yeah, right. He wrote it down, right?

He wrote it. Original right? He wrote it. Flying car. See if it says that. Because I think that's kind of the concept. They thought, oh, we'll get helicopters, and then people just fly around in helicopters. And then I think they bailed on that. Because I think they realized, like, you want knuckleheads

banging blades 10,000 feet above cities if you watch people bump in traffic man just exactly someone's on their phone flying around in a helicopter tweet my tix the man yeah not good definitely not good yeah it's, I don't know, man. I'm all for freedom, but I don't want people falling out of the sky into people's houses either. Yeah, yeah. You know?

You know, man. I don't know. Helicopters, I don't really feel comfortable in helicopters. I'm more cool with a plane. Do you ever do a tour bus thing? Do you do tour buses ever? Yeah, yeah, sometimes, man. But, you know, we so comfortable now.

We just jump in a load of Suburbs and get to where we got to go. Because, you know, even when, I think my last tour, me and T.I. did, we were on tour buses. But even then, you know, it's more so just when we're trying to get to the next city. Because ideally we're still going to go to our hotel and do whatever we got to do. Oh, so you don't sleep on the tour bus? You do. Sometimes. Yeah, if you're going from a city and you may have a six to eight-hour stretch,

you got somewhere to lay down as opposed to having to sit up sleeping in the suburban or something. I don't feel comfortable sleeping in those things because I feel like if this thing crashes, I don't want to be asleep in this bunk bed i ain't never thought of it that way no yeah no that would be bad that's bad very bad real bad isn't that how gloria estefan broke her back how do i know that i think so i think that's true i think I think her tour bus crashed. What happened? In the Miami machine. Yeah.

Yeah, 1990. That's what happened? Snow-covered highway, Scranton, Pennsylvania, semi-truck, four hours of surgery, spinal surgery, yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You just opened my eyes to that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You just opened my eyes to that. I literally just talked to somebody two days ago at Drake concert who has tour buses.

He was like, man, next time you want to go out, whether it's touring, because my album is getting ready to come out. So either that or even if you want to take the tour bus when you're going to go help during disasters, you can take the bus out. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, yeah. But you're going to make me think. It depends on how far that drive is. Yeah, don't fall. Just don't lay down. It seems like you should be in a seatbelt.

Because that's the thing about tour buses, too. People are driving around. It's almost like they're in a green room. It's like, bro, we're moving. Put the fucking seatbelt on. Let's not die. You don't do that in a regular car, right a good reason because you don't want to go through the windshield so put your fucking seat belt on bro but you know everybody wants to have a good time

that's the weird thing about like limos and tour buses one of the things i heard about limos is when they crash the real scary thing is people's heads slam into each other. I can see that because limos, you rarely ever see seatbelts. Yeah. Well, you know, if they are, people aren't wearing them. And then, you know, when they slam on the brakes, you go flying and you go flying into each other. And you could fucking headbutt each other at 35 miles an hour. You know, it's like not good.

you could fucking headbutt each other at 35 miles an hour. You know, it's like not good. You think of the abrupt stop of like the violent action of some accidents. If you're not in a seatbelt and you're in a limo together, man, you could get fucked up. Yeah, because you got to realize on a time of impact, you know, usually when you see something coming, you can brace yourself. But when it's unexpected, it's a wrap. Yeah, you're not even bracing. You just feel the driver hit the brakes.

You don't know what to do, and then bam. Yeah. Not good. Wear your seatbelt, kids. Yeah, definitely do that, man. I was trying to find what you were asking me to look for, and I can't find it, and I stumbled across this. There's something called a Model A, a LEF, a LEAF, a LEF.

Have you seen this? It's a flying car, and they're saying it's available now it's 300 grand i haven't found a video of it flying but this is at the detroit car show it's got wheels here on like normal size where the wheels but the rest of the car is made up of eight fans and it says it can fly like 110 miles. What? I'll show you a different video. That's crazy. What? I saw this one. Really? That's right. So it looks like a car and flies like that just with the fans?

There's wheels there, and there's the whole rest of the body, and this, like the cockpit where you are, turns. Yo. How do you steer that thing? I wonder if they make you go to flight school for these type call you definitely should but this doesn't show up flying does that show it's fine well this is like their video of it so it's not accurate but that's what they're saying it's gonna look like oh so you're gonna go like sideways yeah i feel so good all those flying what so i thought it was saying that the cockpit turned so the fans are behind you is that what

happened street legal e-vito which means vertical takeoff. Oh, look at that. There's an accident, he flies. He just skips over it and goes back. Yo. That would definitely have a lot of people running into each other. They'd land on each other. Fuck you, bitch. This is my lane. But the way that that looked, this has the blades.

You can't hit anything with it. They're all protected. Right. So that problem's gone. But a fender bender, the blades would slam into the fucking structure, and then you'd be dead But yeah, I don't think I want to be part of no Tom no not for the first few generations of it Let's sort that out first kinks out first you ever walk with electric cars huh you ever fuck with electric cars I mean I got a Tesla with

Nothing major. Yeah, I know you I got a Tesla, but nothing major. I still haven't let it auto-drive me, though. No, that's scary. I do it a little. Oh, you do? I go, doo-doo, and I just kind of barely hold on to the wheel, but it makes me feel weird. Never went to sleep, though, in the midst of it? No.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was watching a guy on video. Somebody captured him from the cell phone. He was asleep in his Tesla in bumper- in bumper to bumper highway, just out cold. And the car moves forward, stops, move forward and stops. And he's just snoring. All it take is one wrong malfunction

and everybody, uh-uh. Yeah, that can happen. It's not all worked out yet. Don't go to sleep, bro. But you know, man, it's so crazy you said that because I was saying I was going to find somebody tied in a Tesla. I wanted to just get the Tesla truck just because I don't know why. Oh, it looks amazing. Yeah, I think more so for the looks.

Oh, it looks amazing. I saw one in real life, and I was blown away because the pictures look good. But when you're there in real life, it's big. Oh, it is? It's big, and it's stamped steel. That's not like a regular door. That's a door that can stop a 45 round. Yeah, the whole thing is stamped steel, and it raises and lowers.

So it hits a button. It goes, wah. It gets up like, I think it raises like 16 inches or something crazy like that. I might be wrong. But it has insane horsepower. It goes zero to 60 in like three and a half seconds. This giant thing made out of stamped steel. It's a car of the future.

They were telling me you have to be selected to be. I mean, even though they say you can put money down on it, but you have to be. I think they're doing certain selected people that they'll get it early, because our show is trying to get one. I think they started delivering them, because there was a truck that someone filmed on the highway that had Cybertrucks in it. Yeah.

And they were delivering them somewhere. I don't know if it's delivering them to final production. I don't know if it's delivering them to the actual owners. Are people driving those things yet? I have seen and heard a lot of the stuff you're just saying, and right now it says, like, someone might have leaked the event. They've sent out emails saying people might be able to come get them soon. Upcoming delivery event in Austin.

It doesn't say when it is. It could be next month or next year. Oh, shit. They finished building the factory out here already? Yeah, the Gigafactory. You know, I bought, it was so crazy. Right before they did it, I bought 15 acres in Thrall, Texas, not far from here. And then they just told me the price of my land down there almost doubled just because of the Tesla factory.

That makes sense. That's a great investment. Yeah, that factory is nuts. Have you ever seen it? That's where they showed us the Cybertruck. It's huge. Like the factory looks like the Death Star. Because you're pulling up to it.

You're like, what are they making here? I think it's the biggest building I've ever been in. That's crazy. They brought it right to Texas. That's a good thing. Yeah. Everything bigger in Texas. Yeah.

Isn't it one of the biggest car production buildings ever or something like that it's something crazy like that tesla if you hear us right now we want a cyber truck we definitely want one yeah we need to get that that thing looks amazing second largest building by volume in the world 10 million square feet of floor space that means a lot of people got jobs now means a lot of people got jobs now. Yeah, a lot of people got jobs. A lot of cars are getting made. They're getting made right here. See if you could Google Cybertruck. Let me see what it looks like when it's driving around.

Do they have a video of anybody driving it? YouTube Shorts has quite a few videos. There's an inside video someone has here. There's one driving around L video someone has here. And there's one driving around LA here. When you see it in real life, man, it's sick. It really does look like something from the future. Yeah. I mean, that looks like a future car.

Look at that thing. Like if you were like looking at a movie from 2023 in like 1984, you would think this. And they're like, yeah, they're going to have like future looking spacecraft trucks. It's one of the, when you see it in real life, it's undeniable.

You see it in real life, like I thought it was cool looking in pictures, but you see it in real life, like this is one of the coolest things I've ever seen. It's amazing. And there's no reason for it. There's no reason to make a bulletproof electric vehicle with stamped steel.

Like, why are you doing that? But that's the cool thing about Elon. He does whatever the fuck he wants. I was just going to say, it just seems like he being able to live his childhood out at this point. He doing whatever he feel. He does whatever he wants. Yeah. He does whatever he wants.

It's amazing. He's got enough money and, you money and ability to get things done. You know? I mean, that dude made his rocket extra pointy to be more like Spaceballs, right? Wasn't it Spaceballs? He loves Spaceballs. He loves that movie. So he made the rocket extra pointy to be like the rocket from space balls that should

probably cost him a few millions to do that he's having fun i like when billionaires have fun you know do you use uh x uh i mean here and there so uh most of the stuff that i put on instagram i just rehab it on there yeah do you with tick tock or any of the other that I put on Instagram, I just rehab it on there. Yeah. Do you fuck with TikTok or any of the other ones too? I'm learning it, man. So I've been more of a hands-on Instagram, so I have people that do like my TikTok. I can get on it if I want to.

I still don't even know nothing about Facebook. I have people doing that for me too. Oh, right. I literally can whatever I post from Instagram, I just take it there. Because I don't know, I built my Instagram following to

that's just who I'm used to. What do you use more? I use Instagram most. But I love X for information. I still feel weird saying X. Twitter. Whatever. I like that for information. I still feel weird saying X. Yeah. Twitter, whatever.

I like that for information. It's always interesting. Always interesting stuff coming up. Yeah. You know? I use threads sometimes, too. At this point, I just got to keep up with the times. Yeah. That's the weird thing, right?

It's like there's always going to be some new thing that you have to keep up with. And you won't know about it until it's too late. Like, what's that? What are you guys doing over there? See, the reason it worked out for us, like, so I got my, and it's so crazy. I don't really get to put albums out. Like, you know, I love my music, but every time I get ready to put an album out, a disaster hit or something happened, and my energy and everything shift to that so the music always

get lost in the shuffle and it's the first time in a minute that nothing's really just distracting me and my album come out in october october 20th matter of fact um it's called stuck in motion but being able to have the x the the TikTok, these are all different platforms that you really can use to promote because everybody don't use, you got some people that don't mess with Instagram and only use TikTok. Some people, now that,

I don't know how heavy people are in the threads, but some people only use X. So we find ways, we just use it for our benefit. You know what I'm saying? Just use everything use everything yeah everything we can at this moment just keep throwing it out there that's great it's great you've had that time to concentrate on your album too that must be very exciting yeah it is man because you know so this is the the catch to the smoke part right so you know everybody also have they they think whatever some people may like to go work out to get out their frustration or whatever mine is

i can vent through my music you know i done been through so much i mastered just releasing it through my music you know and i the way i paint the picture you know you have people actually feeling exactly how I feel at that moment. Cause I'm not good at sitting up here like, man, Joe, I had a terrible day today. This going on this, I don't feel comfortable, but if I do it through the music, it just is more relatable. Um, I'm excited about it. Now, the funny thing I'm gonna show you, I'll show you probably when we get off. just did i released a song called first class one of the first singles because i'm releasing singles every two weeks

leading up to it and in first class i had um my my bro philly flyboy shot it and i had some people on white rhino vfx they're from san antonio they edited my old school Cadillac drop to I'm flying around on a cloud. So it's just crazy we just talking about that shit, but super dope, man. Oh, that is cool. Yeah. Yeah.

When you release this, is that the beginning of a tour? Right now, hopefully. I mean, you know, man, believe it or not, even if we've been in the game for as long as we do, we still be nervous and don't really know what comes about. You never know what record, like when I released that album, you never know what record people are going to take to. We don't know if we're going to take off or if you've got to build it up.

But realistically, the goal is when it comes out to get ready to get on the road. That's one thing I love. My two main things, or three, is my kids, the music, and just helping people, man. So, you know, like those are three things that excite me. But other than that, I like I just venture off and just try everything. I feel like you get zero results if you don't try it, you know. Well, that's a beautiful philosophy, the way you balance it all out. That's a good thing because, you know, a lot of us can get caught up in maybe one thing too much, you know,

just to have this idea of, like, your family, your job, everything. It's all, everything deserves equal attention. Yeah, and, you know, man, with life, I just be so realistic with everything, man, because we all have our good days, we all have our bad days, we all mess up time to time, and for me, it's just how we bounce back,

and even with some of the hiccups I've had within the last year or two, it's all learning experiences, but I feel like even with this album, the reason I named it Stuck in Motion was rather than me be dwelling on shit that I could have done different, the shit I could have done better, or to be just held back or sad or just trying to, you know, a lot of times we complain about a bunch of shit. And I feel like I'm at a point in my life now it's like, man, you just got to accept stuff for what it is. So the reason I named it Stuck in Motion is regardless of what I'm going through,

I'm still moving. I'm going to keep it moving. Whichever direction I'm aimed at, that's where I'm going. So I'm Stuck in Motion. That was the purpose of it, man. That's a good name for it. Yeah. So when you say you never know, like know how it's going to be received,

is this your favorite? I think it's definitely going to be an important one in my catalog because I'm from the streets, so most of my music is always going to be that. This album is more just good vibe. I think it's more growth and more universal where you could just for those who smoke you can put it on and just light your bullet up or you just get in your car and ride so for me it's important because i just feel like it's an album of of growth you

know i'm just showing i'm unbothered i'm living life i'm enjoying life and you know a lot of people don't really understand man they don't take it's not just about money they enjoy life you know it's what different things you had that bring peace to you so i just think i'm at a point in life where i'm just enjoying life you know and that's why that's why i think it's gonna be so so important for me and um what i'm doing to it also what i'm doing with it also that's going to make it different. I don't know if you've seen, they say you can put out, like I'm shooting a video for every song, but in between the songs I want to do little short movie skits

so it'll be like from a start to a finish, like a whole project where I'm making, put it on Amazon or something like that. Oh, nice. Yeah, so I'm just trying to think of just different creative shit with this i like that i like that idea yeah yeah just tie it in together make a movie out of it yeah it's a great idea i got a movie coming too but this is just gonna be focused on the music you know from them because you you have different people man for me you have different fans from different things. And music-wise, I want to make sure I set that one apart.

But it's definitely exciting. One of my bros, he's one of the main DJs out of Houston, you know, that kind of can shift the culture, DJ Mr. Rogers. I had him executive produce it, you know, just from a musical standpoint to find records that he think people would take to. You know, at the end of the day, we chose all the records I did, so it worked out. But that, putting all the visuals together to make it dope,

and what I'm going to do, too, that's going to be creative. So when I was talking about the movie part i'm gonna actually get actors for for different roles you know so it'll just be something bigger than me just going to stand on the corner have one of my homeboys talking to me that's a great idea are you gonna write it like you're gonna write it out after the music like the music's done right right so are you now thinking about like like you're gonna write it out after the music like the music's done right right so are you now thinking about like how you're gonna put together a movie that ties in with all the songs so right now i guess the way that i'm really envisioning it is i just each part i just create different scenarios so at that point you don't really make it as i have to really write it out

you know i'm saying just in between these skit what scenario it may be it may be me in the mirror having a conversation with myself but the reflection of the mirror may be a whole another actor that's you know good good guy so you just create different scenarios and then i just figure out how to tie it in but for the most part it's just simple I don't I don't think it'll take too too much I just I'm just excited to be doing it like I leave it's so it's so crazy when I was just telling you also that I have so many different people that uh support me in different ways so when I leave here today i fly to um la for the bmac awards and they giving me the change agent award speaking of awards i'm not sure if you know i got probably

every award you could think of from anything you think of from helping fighting whatever the situation may be man and that's a blessing like i'm at a point now i'll be, man, and that's a blessing. Like, I'm at a point now, I'll be like, man, I don't really, you ain't got to give me an award. I'm going to do the work regardless. It's nice to be recognized. Yeah, and you don't want to kind of go against God's blessings. Because if he feel like, hey, I want you to be recognized for that, who am I to say, like, I don't need that shit. Like, I can't do that. No, that's beautiful.

You said you were doing another movie? So the movie's done. It's called Soul. And it's a crazy story. My guy, Philly Flyboy and Richie Rich out of Houston, they were just getting people to send in scripts. And they found one that they like. It's Soul.

It's about a shoe store. But my father went to jail he was a hustler i ended up coming across some money and i got a shoe store but when my father went to jail he had two million dollars that was um unaccounted for shall we say and so the whole movie everybody it's a comedy but everybody trying to get at me and get to me and harm me to try and figure out where the money is but it's just it's it's more on some funny stuff man i like i say i'm at a point now i'm just trying different stuff like um so that's gonna be dope and it actually come out any day on tubi i don't really

understand the process of it because i thought they'd give me a time and a date where i could promote it but they just like you never know when it'll pop up when it pop up you just get to promoting it but um doing that the reason what i was getting to what i'm trying to tell you i'm at a point of having fun so what i also did one of the videos on stuck in motion song called reconsider i went and got the original ninja turtles i got um batman um deadpool lightning mcqueen so in that video i'm an actual superhero in that video so i'm just trying different stuff just having fun and just living life at this point man that's beautiful just being creative having a good time definitely man but yeah the music that's that's my go-to you know either that or just getting out the house i don't know why i'll be i'll be overexcited when i when i help people man just to see the the fact of them

knowing they're not by themselves and the fact of them knowing somebody actually care that kind of give me my excitement too you you that's beautiful that's excitement we all should be seeking right you know helping people it's nice feels good definitely does man and you you dedicate a lot of time to it and you should be rewarded for that it's beautiful but you know you never really do it for the the reward side you know but your rewards are spiritual, emotional, what you get from people. And different blessings come.

When I tell you, just my career alone, I done been through a lot of shit and I done had decades of bump in my head and then you may have the whole world turn against you then you have to just keep pushing it's like i deal with so much different stuff but that's one thing i don't stop doing and every time my blessings get bigger and bigger which i honestly think god put me through some of these processes because i feel like for me to go to the next level you have to see if i'm really ready so even now like one of my biggest things that's hard for me to go to the next level, you have to see if I'm really ready.

So even now, like one of my biggest things that's hard for me now is to imagine just not reacting to people. Like, you know, because I want people, you definitely can get under my skin. Like imagine you at a UFC and somebody just, you walk by somebody, like, oh, fuck you, Joe. You see? Like think about it now. You can do one of two things.

You can ignore it or you can be like, man, hold on. You got me fucked up. So dealing with phases of getting through, that's all part of growth for what he got planned for me in the future, man. And that's definitely a process of dealing. Yeah. That's part of dealing yeah that's a part of the thing that comes with fame right it's gonna be a certain bunch of people to get mad at you yeah for whatever reason whether it's valid or not yeah and i think man that the hard part is

dealing with it because you have to deal with it but the the reality of it is man sometimes you gotta get to a point they're gonna think what they want to think regardless yes and you gotta just you gotta just keep it moving you know even if you know they direct opinion or they direct thought may not necessarily be true or it could be partially true it may not even be it could be five percent true but at the end of this like you can't really waste your time just over explaining it because it's still going to be somebody out there that don't want to hear. You're going to be interacting with too many people. That's the problem. You can't be considering all the opinions of all these different people at a certain point in time. You got to let that go. And if people are critical or they're shitty or mean to you, what?

I don't have any time. I got no time. But see, that's the growth part because that is not. You got to learn that, right? That shit is not easy. Not easy. It's not easy to not read the comments. But for your mental health, you really should because, you know,

and also like there's a lot of accounts online that aren't real people. There's a lot. There's a lot, man. That's one of the things that I do do on X. I'll go in on a controversial subject, like, you know, whatever it is, climate change or whatever the fuck it is. And I'll just go reading into the comments and see, you know, how people. And you'll find these outrageous comments. And you're like, what is is this and you click on it's just a bunch of letters and a few numbers for the name and then you click on it and you're like oh this is a fake account this is account

that just retweets things and says outrageous shit and just provokes people fighting with each other and like how many of those are out there, man? A lot. Definitely. It'd be to the point now, but I take the time to block all the people that be like, I gained this fortune from here. Some of that shit be like, man, it's too much. Like, it'd be damn near 30 of them comments about how to get some money. And they'd be like, nah. My favorite are the ones that are pretending to be girls looking for a boyfriend i get them a lot too because it's like who's followed for that yeah i need a boyfriend and you click on it like what you need a boyfriend

well i need a girlfriend you gotta then they have two followers on there maybe not even that exactly exactly i don't know who the fuck take time to create that shit every day i don't know Then they have two followers on there. Maybe not even that. Exactly. I don't know who the fuck take time to create that shit every day. I don't know what the scam is. What's the scam, Jamie, on those? Like if you got a, like, I'm looking for a boyfriend or I'm looking for something hot and hard. Those I don't know. How the fuck do they even find our pages?

Well, I think when you get a page that has a lot of people on it, they just glom onto it. And every time you post, they post immediately. They probably have some sort of a computer program. Right? Does that make sense? Yeah. It has to be like that, right? Because they post so much.

I'll get like the first second, there'll be 30 of them. They ramped up the minute that they made it available to use the computer to like comment oh it's hilarious but they were around before dude i used to get you know i said they ramped up though oh they ramped up yeah it's a crazy thing man they just i don't know what they're doing how are they making money i'm reading through an article right now to see if they got anywhere someone Someone investigated this. So when you click on those things, I've never clicked on one. What does it take you to?

Like if you click on theirs. Is it like an OnlyFans page or what is it? I'm reading. So like this is at first these bots would try to lure people that says, you know, like we're going to ignore the fact that I've got a huge booty or don't look at my story if you want to. M-A-S-T-U-R-B-A-T-E I'm not supposed to be cussing on here? No, no, that's how

they wrote it. That's how they wrote it. You're hilarious. I'm trying to I've been swearing the entire time. That's hilarious. But when he read it

the spelling I was like Like a teacher. How are they making money? It says that whether it be porn or pyramid schemes, these accounts are not trying to sell, are trying to sell. I don't know.

It could just be like the way that all porn ads would just get you caught in a weird click farm. You're just caught in a click hole of all these ads popping up. It could just be baiting you for falling into those. Just for clicks. Yeah. Oh, man.

I don't think that they're actually trying to get you to buy something, you know. Internet scams. Speaking of that, have you ever, I've yet to figure out how when you're randomly thinking about something on Instagram or say something and all the ads just start popping up for that shit. Yeah, people want to deny that's real. I definitely know it's real. That seems very real. But it's either one, they're either listening to what we're doing, but sometimes what if you're just thinking and you just start seeing the shit,

so it's still weird. I've never had that happen. Yeah? No, I've never been thinking about it and then it just pops up. I literally can be. You've had a jam? Yeah, I literally be thinking about it, maybe clothes, anything, and then it just randomly just, I don't understand that shit, man. You've had a jam yeah i literally be thinking about it may be closed anything and then it just randomly just i don't understand that shit man you've had that jam really i don't

know what i think you could probably you should test it this week somehow don't use your phone to look think and start to think of a random product maybe talk to someone about it i know you can't just think about something random it's gonna show up i don't mean it that drastically but never don't google search anything trying to think of something super random and you'll start getting ads for it is this evidence of the matrix like what is this I don't know if you start thinking about it and then you get it on your phone that shit is and then you know so I have to actually I have to think back to think that I even say something to somebody or did I click on something? But honestly, just with it being a thought in my brain

and then this shit just, it don't be one ad, it be multiple ads popping up. And sometimes it make me fall into buying shit. I agree with that. I just think that those thoughts, it knows what you've been listening to and watching and that you're eventually gonna think of this. I kind of think that's what it is.

It's just like deduction. Man, the internet dangerous. Fuck, that's crazy. It plays us. I buy more shit on Amazon that I probably wouldn't buy just because you can. Just click, click, click. I haven't bought toothpaste in a store in forever. Just click.

One click, it's on its way. Yay. I don't have to think. Yeah, man. Internet definitely is something different, man. Yeah. Just wait until you just 3D print things in your house. That's going to happen too.

What do you mean? People are going to have like supplies of materials. They'll have like silicone and metals and all these different things. And they're going to be able to 3D print things. Because right now they can 3d print a lot of shit they can make um you know all sorts of they can make guns they can 3d print guns they can 3d print a lot of stuff they can 3d print houses they 3d print like sections of houses and then they stack them all together and build a house with it and if you had a 3d printer in your home and you had all these materials like for at least some things i would imagine you'd be able to 3d print objects in your

house now instead of buying them you just like buy the plans or buy like a license to print it but that if with that that prints it may cost a lot on the lake. Initially, it probably will. Yeah. It probably always will. It's pretty complicated. But the idea of, like, going somewhere and getting a thing, it's probably going to be less and less. You'll probably be making the thing in your house when these things get more sophisticated. That's just a guess, though. Is that possible? Does that make sense?

Yeah. But I still have wondered, like, to what extent. Because most of the stuff I see people 3D printing, it a bunch of like it's mostly junk right it's just like trinkets and plastic and things that you don't need could you make a knife you know could you make an awesome knife that a blacksmith couldn't make that way i don't think you could you can make car parts though i know they 3d print car parts like metal like renew I don't know what they can 3d can make 3d print metal yeah I mean I'm looking like there's a copper at least I don't know how like you once you 3d print something there's still a process you

have to do to make it look good and pretty usable you have to dunk dunk it in some sort of water solution i don't know what you do with the metal hmm you know that's what bob lazar thinks that spaceship that he worked on was made with he thinks it was somehow 3d printed because it has no seams you pay attention to this ufo shit no good for you no but i i know you do so i'm gonna ask cuz I'm it's like the shit just there's so much shit that's just coming out now I don't understand though what's the motive behind it just randomly coming out now yeah I'm super suspicious so what's the place area area 51 yeah like, I'm assuming that shit has been real.

That's real. Yeah. But Area 51 was used for all sorts of training purposes. They had all sorts of programs that were running out there. I think that's where they developed the B-52. Is that where they developed it? Area 51? They developed a bunch of different military technologies out there. So nothing was about the we don't know we don't know it's all just guessing about

whether or not they're working on UFOs but they were definitely working on other stuff too it's a legitimate military base so you think these videos real that's that's coming out are you thinking I think the videos are real what they're filming I don't know what that is. It could be that it's some super sophisticated U.S. controlled drone that was built in some sort of a program that's top secret. And it has some new super sophisticated propulsion system that they don't want us to know about. And so they pretend it's coming from another world. And they oh these are off-world crafts exhibiting behavior That's impossible to replicate in America. I wonder I wonder because if they're talking about it like that

They're literally saying off-world like sure Boy, I get suspicious. I get suspicious because they're not super honest about anything. Why would they be honest about spaceships? Then it just randomly happens now. Yeah. Well, it's another nice distraction. It gets people all excited. You know, the fucking fake little Mexican UFO baby. They're doubling down.

No, they're not. This is from the MRI yesterday. They said it's one skeleton. What did they find out? Other American scientists are saying, well, let people test samples of it or something. yesterday. They said it's one skeleton. What did they find out? American scientists are saying, well, let people test samples of it or something. Well, did they have images from the MRI?

I don't know that they showed those actual images, but the doctor that took it, they belong to a single skeleton that has not been joined to other pieces. Interesting. Footage from the team carrying out the test shows one of the bodies bearing an elongated head, a small upturned nose, and two slanted eyes. The subjects look tiny when held up by the doctors examining for the watching journalists.

Then this person says that, I think it's the doctor, has claimed that he talks to the Virgin of Guadalupe, and the extraterrestrials will not talk to her like they talk to him because she doesn't believe in them. Maybe he does drugs. Maybe he's telling the truth. Maybe he did talk to the Virgin of Guadalupe. So that's what it's supposed to be.

I want to see what those images look like. They don't have them. You ever notice how none of the images be clear? Yeah. Oh shit, like that we really want to see yeah it's a real problem i talked to this one guy christopher mellon he used to be an intelligence agent and he said that they do have clear footage it just hasn't been leaked but that he's aware of it and some of it's pretty mind-blowing he said show me until they until i see, I don't know, man.

I feel like a dummy. Because I want to believe in it so bad. That's the problem. Because it's so fun. You know? The idea of spaceships coming here from another galaxy. I don't know how fun, especially if they ain't friendly. Well, if they weren't friendly, we'd already be fucked.

Right? I mean, if they've been coming here forever, supposedly, and they haven't heard us yet, we're probably okay. You know, I think they're probably observing us. If they are coming from another world, they're probably making sure we don't blow ourselves up. they're probably realizing that we're at this convergence of the evolution of the biology and then science and technology and its abilities that far surpass like the speed that the biology evolves like the biology evolves very slowly relatively compared to these computers the things that they're able to do these spaceshipships and the flying cars. And it's like, we have so much ability now and we're still the same kind of creature.

We're still humans, you know, but now we have this insane ability to blow up a whole country. Like we have nuclear bombs. We're all pointing them at each other and there's enough to wipe out the whole world. Like if I was an alien, I'd be like, let's keep an eye on these crazy fucks. You know, these i'd be like let's keep an eye on these crazy you

know these people are wild let's keep an eye on them yeah man yeah definitely uh i'm gonna keep my distance from that yeah yeah i don't want to fly them all i don't want to do none of that i just man live my life. Yeah. It's going to be a long time before people get comfortable moving to Mars. I don't know how long that's going to be, but that's a fucking commitment. Didn't they have somebody recently go? Are they letting people go now? No, they haven't let people go yet.

They've sent drones. So they have the Mars rover that goes around on Mars, but that's just a robot. But the idea is to have people on Mars. I think didn't Elon say by like 2035 or something like that he wants man-tripped to Mars?

That's crazy. He keeps saying his name. He's the only doing whatever the fuck he want to do at this point. He's a wild fella. It's a crazy thing to do at this point. Whatever the fuck he wants. Yeah. He's a wild fella. It's a crazy thing to do. Definitely is. Might wake up some shit we don't need to wake up. Elon Musk speaks at COO said manned mission will reach Mars by 2030.

NASA says otherwise. Wow. Yeah. It's probably somewhere in the middle. Because most of these things take longer than you think they're going to take. Like, even his cars. Like, they thought that Cybertruck was already going to be out. And then there was that Roadster.

Like, where's that fucking thing? You know? Those things take a long-ass time to develop. You got to get all the kinks out. You got to make sure. Because he's going to be responsible for people going over there. If they can't actually be there or live there, he's going to be responsible for a bunch of people. You've got like a whole city and Mars and the air breaks.

I don't like that he said you can only go twice a year. The trip can only happen on like two days out of the year or two weeks. You have to wait six months if you miss the window. So what if the window, like a storm rolls through? Six months. Oh my God. I guess.

Oh my God. See? Bro. Yeah. Bunch of money gonna be wasted. Not just money, it's just scary. The idea of being

on a six month journey to another planet, that's how long it takes to get there. Oh, that's how long it takes to get there. Oh, that's how long it takes to get there? I thought you were saying he only go up. Yeah, there's a window of six months but that's how long it takes. Doesn't it take six months to get there?

Oh, fuck, man. I for sure would never. It took the Apollo mission two I think two weeks to get to the moon. It could even be seven months. So it might be seven months. Yeah. Seven months in a spaceship. Traveling at 24,600 miles an hour. Yeah.

What does that feel like? You probably don't even notice it. You probably look out the window and you don't see shit. Like, are we there yet? I'm just saying, the food, everything would be horrible. Horrible.

Fuck, no, I can't. Yeah, there's going to be no barbecue. If you're flying how many thousands of miles an hour? Almost 25,000. Almost 25,000 miles an hour. Yeah, I can't. What does that feel like? Very uncomfortable.

And knowing you can't turn around. You can't take a month in and go, you know what, guys? I'm going to pull over at this rest stop and I can't turn around. Like, you can't, like, take a month in and go, you know what, guys? I'm going to pull over at this rest stop and I can't do this anymore. Yeah, but not only that, everybody revolves around

phones and the internet. Mm-hmm. No, it ain't going to be that shit up there. Yeah, you will have no idea what's going on on Earth. They must have some communication, right?

I'd imagine the Starlink is going to go with it, but what if it doesn't work? I don't know. Have they tested it? starlink is going to go with it but what if it doesn't work i don't know i have to test you know have they been able to go test it test the speeds imagine being the first dude to try to touch down on mars oh my god that's a but there's going to be people that do it just like there's people that go to everest people that want to climb k2 there's people that go to Everest people that want to climb k2 there's gonna be people that do it no matter what it is I just won't be one of them bro I definitely won't be one of the first I'm definitely not gonna do that six-month thing fuck that you only live a hundred years you gotta take a half of a year to go to the other planet that sucks is the people going to the moon already?

Well, the Apollo astronauts. They're going back. This thing says they're going back. That article I pulled up about NASA said they have a plan to go back to the moon 2025. The south pole of the moon. Oh, wow. That'd be interesting. Whenever it looks better than the original footage. These days, they better have good cameras they got everything else yeah that's gonna be interesting they pull that off well that will that will uh crush the moon hoax deniers but i don't know

you say the hoax yeah the people that think that we never went to the moon that's a fun one that's a fun one but we did though yeah yeah but there's people that believe it was a hoax and if you go down that rabbit hole online YouTube

I can't I hate YouTube holes man cause I I'd be in that shit for hours and people got the original

shit I was looking up so yeah YouTube holes definitely especially with something like that they'll take you down down a dark dark road and you start thinking i don't think we went to the moon

they definitely will i gotta wear brainwashing well there's so many conspiracy theories you can get into you know if you just don't care and you just want to go on a rabbit hole, there's so many rabbit holes to go down. The Rockefellers, the, you know, there's like so many rabbit holes that you can go down. Yeah. You know, engineering of America, like, oh, Jesus, you don't want to think about it. And they take their time to put them, they make it believable what they're saying. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. It's hard to know. make it believable what they're saying. Yes. Yeah. It's hard to know. So, when you you've been watching the UFC for a long time, do you train at all? Do you do any

jiu-jitsu? Man, believe it or not, I did. It was a long time ago they were going to do where you switch from a rapper to a UFC fighter. And I'll never forget, I did the training. I was in Albuquerque, New Mexico. At Jackson Winkle?

I don't know the exact place. Who was the, damn, is that where Sanchez used to train? I forgot. Diego? Yeah. So wherever that gym was. Yeah, Greg Jackson's. Jackson Wiggle John. Trained the whole day.

And by the end, I was throwing up in the middle of the ring. And when I did, they told me, okay, now you officially had a good workout. And I was like, fuck this shit. I know. But then, so that's when I was learning about the leg part, right? So they had like these bamboo these bamboo sticks, kind of. It's, like, some kind of sticks. And they would just tap my shin.

And they were like, this is what you do to start hardening. And I was like, yeah, I'm good on all that, man. And all the other time is with Derek. You know, I go mess around and play with him at the gym. But that's it, man. That's a lot of work. I'm not done with throwing up every time i work out but you look like fit and strong so you must be doing some kind of working out i work out here and there which i feel i've been slagging lately because i've been so focused on just filming and

getting ready for this album man but yeah definitely i like to work out i don't like to do the i've always said i wanted to learn the learn the submission side of stuff because man you know you can watch some people that you get ready to fight and they'll just drop to the ground and they hope that they can get you there and whether it may be to break something or whether it may be to put you to sleep so I've always been curious to figure that out

definitely but that shit that workout is a little intense, man. Yeah, but it'll start off like if you go to a beginner's class, it'll be fun. How long have you been doing it? You'll enjoy it. I started doing it in 90, seriously in 98. Yeah, I took a couple classes before that, but not much.

And then I did like a little bit at Carlson Gracie's but then in 98 I joined John Jock Machado's and that's when I really started training no we really did it's a fight just to train just a train I was already 30 it's like I don't need to be getting my ass kicked I'm busy doing other shit when you see the sacrifice that fighters put in and what it does to their body and you know the the amount of attention that they have to put to their craft it's uh you don't dabble in that i don't want to dabble in that like what they're doing i wouldn't you know what they did what

you're doing with a professional fighter you're taking like one of the riskiest paths in all of life you're going to gamble your body and the function of your body to make your living. And the function of your body while you're going against other trained killers and you're throwing bones at each other. Slamming shins and elbows into heads and strangling people and taking

arm bars and like, whoa. So probably, what would be the average now, the average age, anywhere from what, 25 to 35 maybe? For pro fighters? Yeah. Well, you got Raul Rosas Jr., who is like 18 years old. Yeah, of course.

He's the youngest guy. You know he's good, too. He's really good. He's got a massive potential. You're getting a lot of pretty good guys in their early 20s now which is interesting because in the early days it took guys a while to like put all the pieces together you know they didn't you know they maybe started as a wrestler and then they learned how to strike or they started a striker and they learned how to wrestle you're seeing these kids coming up that are 20 years old that

are like proficient in everything submissions kickboxing every they put it all together beautifully they're they're trained in mma from a very young age instead of adapting a previous skill set like boxing or wrestling to mma they're learning the whole thing from the jump and i think those guys have a giant advantage and they're also like every generation see there's always going to be the greats right you're always going to have your mike tyson's you michael jordan's you're always going to have your greats but every generation seems to develop more and more high level athletes in every sport and in mma that's you know no different different. It's maybe even more prevalent in MMA. It's exploding now.

So you're seeing, like, Dana White's Tuesday Night Contender series. Yeah. You'll see guys on that show that are just straight-up killers. And you're like, this guy's an absolute UFC-caliber fighter, and they're fighting to get a shot on the show. So these guys that are coming up are already really good. Really good. So, guys that are coming up are already really good. Really good. So, yeah, I've watched. One thing I came to understand, man, like I would watch,

like even now I still, I go support all fights. Like I go do the Fury fighting in Houston and other things. But you watch some fighters go from there to the UFC, fighters go from there to the UFC and I don't think people really understand how qualified the the you it's a different type of monster you know it's just as as if somebody coming from college that jumping to the pros like yeah they really good at what they do and that shit count yeah yeah it counts it's um at the top of the heap, you know, there's guys in the UFC that aren't like any organization ever at the top of the heap. But there's some other organizations right now, like Bellator has some really good fighters, and 1FC has some really good fighters. There's guys that are, like, commensurate that they could probably get to the UFC.

But when they come, it's still hard for them, though. It's hard. It's hard for everybody in the UFC. I mean, look, we're talking about Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaethje. Those guys are the cream of the crop. And when they go at it like that, you know, one guy could get cracked, and that's what we saw. And that's how good they are.

I mean, at that level, that's really, you know, one guy can win, one guy can lose. It's like they're that good. Almost anything can happen. That's why that next fight between Oliveira and Islam Akachev is very interesting. Because Islam got him in the first fight and submitted him. And Oliveira is like hell-bent on getting that title back. And I want to say.

He's good. You can't take nothing from him. Oliveira is a beast. He's a beast. I want to say he good that can't you can't take nothing from right there is a beast. He's a beast and I think Watching him struggle with Volkanovski, you know, he won that decision But it was a very close fight where a lot of people thought he was gonna roll him over smash him Could be so much bigger probably gave a lot of people some ideas that oh, he's he's he's vulnerable He's not completely invincible like he's looked in all of his fights. He's human

Yeah, so maybe maybe all of era will have more confidence coming at this fight. Who knows but It's an exciting fight. Islam's appeased. Yeah, I mean look at the camp he came from. Yeah, that's crazy camp Yeah, and they're so filled with the elite high-level grappling Well, those guys are just killers on the ground and a a bunch of them are great at stand-up, too. A bunch of them are killer strikers, too. Yeah, yeah, definitely, man. You know, I was excited for John Jones to come back, too. You know, he's one of my brothers, man.

He's definitely, his legacy's already marked. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he became the heavyweight champion. He went light heavyweight to heavyweight, you know, and if he defends it. My hope, this is my hope. Francis Ngannou has his big payday, fights Tyson Fury. Right.

And then the UFC coaxes him back to fight Jon Jones. That's my hope. I don't know if it's possible. Jon is ready. I mean, they both my homies with Jon differently. Jon won at that one. That's the one. That's the one. That's my hope. I don't know if it's possible. John is ready. I mean, they both my homies, but John definitely, John wanted that one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the former.

I thought he's not with UFC anymore. Well, he's not with UFC right now because he's going to fight Tyson Fury, but I don't know if he signed a contract with someone else. I don't know what happened. I don't know what the deal is. Or maybe they could give him a one-fight exemption away from that contract to fight John Jones in the UFC, but they probably wouldn't do that but that's what that's the fight you want to see though you want to see the guy who was the heavyweight champion who relinquished the crown

come back and fight the guy who won it in his absence that's the perfect fight to see what and it's also it's the perfect fight skillfully too because you see like as skillful John is and as dangerous as Francis is yeah France is definitely super dangerous with his hand with every people people have to understand John have hands with John has a little bit of a little bit of everything to man John's got everything yeah but Francis is as big a heavyweight as there is and as scary a striker in the heavyweight division as there is i would be very curious to see how that fight goes down i think it would be

very interesting and i really wish they could pull that off because i think that's a legacy fight and if john retires after that and if he wins oh my god he goes down as the all-time great yeah got to i don't know why people always give him his his followers as the all-time great. Yeah, got to. I don't know why people don't always give him his followers as the all-time great because he definitely is that. I mean, you know. I think kind of everybody does now after he won the heavyweight title. If you look at his accomplishments, you know, never really lost. He really lost that one fight by disqualification.

That's it. Every other fight he's won. And he's fought against the highest level competition from the time He was 21 years old 22 years old. It's incredible. Yeah Yeah, I mean it's hard to deny and you know, he beat really good guys He beat guys that you know that were in their prime You know, John was something special and still is it that that would be the big fight but I'm interested to see him fight Stipe too, Stipe's been out for a long

time and he's coming back to try to reclaim the title that's interesting too not to discredit him but I'm not sure if he gonna, John ain't no easy no he's not easy well I think for sure it'll be a

John will be the favorite in that fight, the betting favorite. But, you know, Stipe's the most decorated heavyweight of all time. He defended the title more than anybody. He beat so many good people, former champions, Junior Dos Santos, Fabrizio Verdum. He knocked him out to win the title. He's a monster. He's really good.

And, you know, he's had time to relax and recover you know after that francis knockout you want someone to like really recover from something like that that was a rough one yeah you know see how this goes buddy see how it goes it's exciting though right definitely man. I'm the, so, I say the power of Francis, even against Tyson, definitely, Fury is definitely going, that's going to count. But, you know, I just don't know how it's going to be with the, because I, when you always watch these two worlds collide, it's just, it's a little different. Well, Tyson Fury is one of the greatest boxers of all time. Yeah, you got to give him his credit. He's amazing.

And Francis can punch really hard, and he can box, but can he box with Tyson Fury? Right, that's why I say it's always just, I don't know something about it, it's just different. Well, it's going to be interesting. I'm interested to see how it plays out. I'm definitely curious to see what approach Francis takes, what approach Tyson Fury takes, how it plays out. I'm definitely curious to see, like, what approach Francis takes, what approach Tyson Fury takes, like how they handle it.

I'm interested. Well, I think the other thing that's going to be a factor is if Francis' chin is strong enough. That's going to be the thing because he can box, period, but you've got to be able to take it. Yeah, well, Fury can crack you with punches you don't see coming. He's sneaky with uppercuts and hooks, and he's very clever. He's so good with his feet. His footwork is so good, and he's so long. Yeah.

And he doesn't have to hit you with the haymakers right off the bat. He'll just start popping you with the jab, popping you, move and sticking you it's going to be very interesting i'm curious to see with uh you know mike tyson is training francis yeah that's interesting too i always love to see shout out tyson that's my brother man i always love to see him work he's still even if you watch him well it's just him training. He's still exciting just to watch him, man. No, he's awesome. Yeah. And his style of, like, just charging forward and switching stances

and ripping to the body and ripping to the head, if he can get Francis involved in that style, it would be very interesting to see, like, what Francis does. Like, if you watch him training together, it's pretty exciting. Is he quick? In that standpoint, is he quick like how Tyson is? It's hard to say. He's not as quick as Tyson.

Tyson was a lot smaller. We've got to realize when Tyson was in his prime, he was like 220. But he was so fast. Just bobbing and weaving and moving in. And hitting hard. Oh, my God. And fast. Hard and fast.

It wasn't just hard. It was hard and you couldn't get away from it. You couldn't block it. He would just come flying in at people. And Francis is not as fast as that, but he's a lot bigger. Francis is a natural 265. He used to have to lose weight to make the 265-pound heavyweight weight class. So they got a cap on?

Yeah. Isn't that crazy? It's 265.pound heavyweight weight class. So they got a cap on? Yeah. Isn't that crazy? It's 265. Anything over that you just... Yeah, it's a super heavyweight. And super heavyweight division has never really been established. Who do we got this super heavyweight? Nobody.

Nobody. We don't have a super heavyweight division in the UFC. But it does exist. That's why there's a... So it can be done. Yeah, it can be done. But that's why there's a 265 pound weight limit, which seems kind of silly. I'm curious to see what a super heavyweight will look like.

There's probably not that many of them because there's a small amount of heavyweights. If you think about the size of the UFC roster and the heavyweight division, it's so much smaller than the middleweight or the welterweight or the lightweight Heavyweight is a very small division because there's not that many really skilled big men at the top of the heap It's hard man. I think a lot of the elite athletes that are that big they go into NFL Going going to NBA going somewhere else and make money Okay, you know You got to want to do that Like MMA can't be like maybe I'll try that it's gotta be like

you know if you're gonna compete with those guys it's gotta be something you want to do and then you gotta find a competition and see if there's only two of y'all in that league at this point you know what I'm saying what do you think about Charlo and Canelo that's exciting isn't it man definitely Charlo from the town

so you know one thing about Houston we always gonna to support Houston. I think it's definitely, this is definitely going to be a big, big look for him, man. Canelo definitely, he still, if he not still sitting in his prime, he's just on the outskirts of leaving it. If he's not still sitting in his prime, he's just on the outskirts of leaving it. But he can't think that Charlo's going to hit hard. You know what I'm saying?

Charlo hits hard. Yeah, he got to know that. So it's definitely going to be interesting. Just of course, we're going to root for our time regardless, man. But definitely it's going to be a big fight. It's such a wild move for Charlo to jump up two weight classes. I didn't know he jumped a two weight class.

Wasn't he junior middleweight and this is at 168? Isn't that correct? That's only how many pounds? 12. Super middleweight? That's what this fight is, right? What is he the champion at? Isn't he the champion. Super middleweight. Super middleweight. That's what this fight is, right? Yeah. And what is he the champion at?

Isn't he the champion at, um, uh, junior middleweight? I believe so. But you got to remember, Canelo started out that light too, you know? And went all the way up to win the light heavyweight. Yeah, it says the Ironman is stepping up two weight divisions to have his chance at adding the super middleweight crown to his undisputed super welterweight champion. Yeah.

Super welterweight or junior middleweight, same thing, depending on which organizing body. Yeah, the fight has been exciting, definitely, man. Yeah, do you follow all boxing? For the most part i mean you know i the crazy thing man i'd be so overwhelmed with with life i barely get to watch tv but in the process i'll be trying to catch a lot but who you who you finna bring up or what you thinking terrence crawford yeah yeah man so terrence the homie you know arrow like my brother too and me and me and Terrence I just seen Terrence uh probably like two three

days ago and um man that was a no yeah that was that was virtuoso yeah virtuoso performance that was like the thing is you can't you can't discredit Crawford at all. No. I don't think people really gave him his credit. But, you know, for me, like I told him just from just a homeboy standpoint as far as him and Earl is, I just appreciate how he handled it. You know? Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like that was solid the way he handled it, you know? And it's just because he could have went about it a different way, you know. And then you got to realize, man, the internet and fans can make stuff way more cruel, you know what I'm saying. And then the fact that they got action to run it back, you know. situation everybody learned from what mistakes everybody learned from what moves you made to start trying to sharpen it up for the next one but um it'll be interesting to see if errol can make an adjustment very interesting but man terrence is good yeah yeah he definitely he has that magical ability to switch hands his switching of stances is something that,

it was hilarious because when I had him on the podcast, he was telling me, his coach was telling him, stop fucking around. Stop fucking around switching stances. And he's like, no, man, I'm going to figure this out. And he figured it out. And now he's the best switch hitter since Marvin Hagler. I mean, he's amazing at it. The way he's able to fucking just cut angles and throw just as hard from the left as he does from the right with equal proficiency.

And he knows where to be at all times. He knows where you're going to be at all times. It's like, man, when you watch a guy that's that good at anything, but especially that good at something so dangerous as boxing, you really appreciate how hard it must be to get there. Yeah, even looking at the wins, he got a nice amount of wins as far as, you know, as far as with his undefeated record, man. Yeah, but that one, the Errol Spence one was the big one. Yeah, yeah. That was the big one because that was the test.

Like, is he as good as everybody thinks he is? I mean, he's even better. He's even better. I mean, in my book, he's an all-time great like i would have loved to see him versus sugar ray leonard you know what i'm talking about like in their prime the primes yeah in the primes which is one of the most amazing things about boxing is you get to think like that you know compare guys like roberto duran in his prime you know yeah he was a monster too man yeah. Yeah. Man, when they even think back, all the heavyweights from back then

was monsters. Oh, yeah, man. That was probably, back then, heavyweight probably was the ideal boxing size, you know? But now, of course, you know, you got so many different divisions. Yeah.

But you got to think of just all of them from back then, man. Oh, yeah. I watch old heavyweight fights sometimes. The other day I watched Ernie Shavers versus George Foreman. You ever see that? Mm-mm. Oh, my God.

And they big as hell. They're so big, and they're both two of the biggest punchers that have ever fought in the heavyweight division. And those dudes just walloped on each other. It was a crazy fight. One thing I can say about the heavyweights from back then they definitely it definitely did some damage let me see some of that jamie that's the one to see yeah like it definitely does some real permanent damage to like they was really oh i was just man if you look at some of the hits that tyson put on people i don't you can't even imagine

how they made it through it yeah they're probably never the same again, some of those knockouts. Yeah. Some of them. Like the Marvis Frazier one, that was a bad one. Did you find Ernie Shavers and George Foreman? No, I'm only seeing videos that are video games. Oh, really? It says they never fought.

What? Who did George Foreman's last fight before he came back? It wasn't, no, it wasn't Ernie Shavers. Was it Kent? Here's his last opponents. You got to go way back, way back to when he retired and came back. So before Dwight Muhammad Kawee, because I know that was at heavyweight. So keep going down.

All right. So Wynn, Joe Frazier, Scott Ledoux. Keep going up. Jimmy Young, loss of Jimmy Young. What year is that, Scott Ledoux. Keep going up. Jimmy Young. Loss of Jimmy Young. What year is that? 77. Keep going.

So, it's a 10-year gap right there. Yeah. All right. So, who was the last one that he fought after he fought? Oh, Ron Lyle. That's what it was. He fought Ron Lyle. That's what it was.

That was another guy that could fucking crack. That was a crazy fight. That's what it was. That was another guy that could fucking crack. That was a crazy fight. That's right. How you been in tune? I haven't really got the follow-up on him, but Ali's family tree. How they been doing? His family tree? Yeah, as far as the nephews or the grandson that's boxing?

Oh, that's right. Yeah, he's doing well. I think he's undefeated, right? Man, these are big fellas. George had such a unique style, too. Oh! Yeah, this is it. Shit.

Damn. This is a crazy fight, man. Caesar's Palace outside Las Vegas. Who won that fight? I believe George won. I think he knocked him out in, I think it was like the 7th. But it was a war, man. He got dropped.

He got rocked. Stop the fight. Bro, they didn't stop fights for nothing back then It is And they're gonna count They're gonna count bro They're gonna give him a count Look

Referee just waddled over He's not Isn't it crazy They would have let him get up. It's crazy. He was out. That's a crazy fight. Them was some big dudes, though.

That was his first fight, I think, after he lost to Ali. Ali was something special. Oh, man. Ali was something special. Yeah. And not just special. Oh, man. I leave with something special. Yeah. And not just special. And big. I didn't realize how big it was.

Yeah. Not just special because of the abilities, but when the Vietnam War came out, he said, I'm not going to fight the Vietnam War. Yeah, he stood for something. For what? What am I doing? Why you want me fighting these Viet Cong people? I don't know them.

And everybody just, I mean, they stripped him of his title and his prime. He was at the very peak of his abilities. One of my favorite fights is right before they stripped him. He fought Cleveland Big Cat Williams. And Cleveland was like this big, muscular power puncher. And Ali just boxed this beautiful dance And just paced him up See if you find that

It's one of my all time favorite boxing performances Because it's where you get to see Ali Before they stripped him of his title And then he came back He was kind of a different fighter when he came back But before they stripped him He would box like a middleweight But he was you know

A heavyweight, a big, tall dude. His weave game was amazing. Against who, sorry? Cleveland Big Cat Williams. So they robbed us of the real Ali because during those three years where they stripped him of his title and he couldn't box, that was the years where he was still at his best, and he really didn't train during those years.

So when he came back, he just wasn't the same guy same he didn't move like he moved when he was younger you know but and this is like him in his fucking prime just scooch ahead a little see some of this action and cleveland's a jack dude i mean look at the muscles on cleveland and he's moving forward and o Ali's just boxing him up. I mean, what fucking heavyweight moved like this before him? Like, look at his footwork. I mean, imagine fighting a guy like that. They didn't exist before him.

In the heavyweight division? I mean, look at him move. Still to this day, if you saw this guy, and he was on HBO today, you'd be like, whoa, who is this new dude? Like, oh my God, what kind of movement? And you got to think, we're talking about the 1960s. I think this was 67. And there had been nothing like that before. What year was it, Jamie? Does it say? there had been nothing like that before. What year was it, Jamie? Does it say?

Doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure it's 67. Now, go a little further ahead when he starts getting them. I mean, Cleveland just has to try to chase him down. And every time Ali would just stop and pop the jab. Look at that 1-2. 1-2 moving away. I mean, moving

away. I mean moving away. I mean the fucking hand speed, the combinations. The volume, look at that. He just stands over him with his hands raised. Amazing fight. I mean, come on. Come on. They picked him up.

Bro, they picked him up and put him back on the stool. Like, you're going to get back out there, kid, and you're going to kill him. So he came back off the stool and boxed some more. They could have easily stopped that fight, right? They just didn't stop fights the same way back then. Today, they would look at this and go, that's enough. That's enough. But back then, they're like, one, two, three.

And they go to the corner and he starts back again. Four, five. I mean, this poor dude needs to be saved. He probably doesn't have rules about recovery time either. Oh, there were no rules, bro. You fight next weekend. They didn't care about people.

They just, you know, they wanted you to fight so they can make money. Look at that right hand. Oh my goodness. I mean, just playing with him. Look at that jab. oh my goodness I mean just playing with him look at that jab I mean he was just a complete unique fighter he moved like Sugar Ray Robinson but he was a heavyweight the referee finally saves him finally he could have stopped that fight a long long fucking time ago they were different back then

the way they stopped fights. I think in any sports, they were a lot more rougher back then. Yeah, football certainly was. Yeah, basketball, everything. Everything was. Yeah. Different times, man. Very different. Yeah. It's probably better today. It's probably better today. People are looking out

for you more. Yeah. Different times, man. Especially when it comes to fighters. Someone's got people looking out for you more. Yeah. Different times, man. Especially when it comes to fighters. Someone's got to look out for them. They don't want to stop. And sometimes you've got to save them from themselves. This guy had to play in the NBA with a broken neck. What?

He said if you could walk, you can play. Oh, my God. 1980. That's the year I was born. He played multiple NBA games in a neck brace after he broke his neck. I'm not exactly sure how it happened. I don't know if it was in-game, but there's a few. Yeah, that's wild.

Stuff in the 80s like this. That's wild. Yeah. I know for a fact there was a lot rougher back then. Humans were tougher. They dealt with more adversity. It's like the world wasn't as easy it's crazy because it was just different right because back then when you have people 30 and 40

that was really really old yeah 30 and 49 is that shit i'm 43 you know what i'm saying so it's just it's normal now yeah that shit, everything was just different back then. Yeah, I'm 56. You see what I'm saying? 56-year-old guys were like halfway dead. Yeah. It's like nobody knew how to work out. Nobody knew how to eat right. There's no vitamins.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Shit was different, man. Yeah. Yeah, it's better now. In that sense. Definitely. Definitely better now. Yeah, it's better now in that sense, definitely. Definitely better now.

Yeah, but so my son, I trained him with boxing. I'm pretty sure he's going to go to doing the MMA stuff just to learn, you know. But, you know, I'm big on being able to protect yourself, handle your business. That's good. He loves football now, though, so I'm just letting him do his thing. Then so crazy, speaking of football and all that, man, you can make more in college than you can in the NBA down there. Isn't that crazy?

Yeah. But isn't that a good thing, though? Yeah, because they tried to stop it for so long, man. It doesn't make any sense. You are making money and the athletes aren't. And how many athletes, because it's so hard to do, how many athletes blow their knees out, you know, in college and never make it? And meanwhile, they made millions of dollars for the city or for the university, rather?

Yeah. They should get some money. How much are those guys making? I don't know. Are they making a lot because you i think being just good and notarizable you can make um people be saying millions you know it can be one too many that's a lot for a college student as opposed to if you're getting all these different deals now if you go to thinking about maybe LSU, they're probably getting,

Reese is probably getting crazy money at this point. Do you know, Jamie, how much top college athletes get paid? I think LeBron's son right now, Bronny James, is arguable to be the top deal. He's got a couple million dollar deal. Some of them, I don't know how much, they don't have to be fully disclosed either which is kind of strange that is kind of strange it's a imagine if you graduated four years ago and you like fuck I could

be British shit in a way they really kind of owe those people you know but do you know they do they deserve because you got to realize you got a lot of people who support college games and that so you have some of them stars that deserve to get it you know oh yeah those college alumni people go ham they donate a lot they go crazy with that stuff yeah yeah yeah definitely Yeah. Definitely, man. I mean, they make fucking billions of dollars, right? Shout out to them, man. A lot of talent, man. A lot of talent.

What changed that they had to pay the athletes now? There's a big push. I saw Ed O'Bannon, who was a basketball player from UCLA in the 90s. They put a lawsuit through to get like uh it was most of the big deal for them was the ncaa basketball and football games because it was when you played them it was from ea sports there's a lot like madden but they couldn't put their names in it and then it became an easy way you could download the rosters and put the names on them and their player it was already you could tell who the player was they just didn't have their name on it. So they gave them their full stats

and full abilities and all that. And a lot of people, it was a very popular game, were buying it for those reasons. They got that pushed through courts and then once that happened I think it's Wild West now. Isn't that dirty? That they did that?

Everybody do whatever they can to keep the money as much as they can. I That's so dirty. Everybody, man, everybody do whatever they can to keep the money as much as they can. I know, in every business. Just dirty, just dirty. You know, some people, they don't really think it's bad business to do that. They think that's the way to be.

For me, I just never been, I ain't the selfish type, man. Yeah. I'm gonna get mine regardless. That's good for you. That's a good perspective. Like I said, you're very balanced. Something I forgot to tell you, too. You know, I got my cartoon.

We haven't took it to a network. So I had my cartoon that was out called Adventures of Trey. And I ended up doing, well, now you know everybody on Strike, but I partnered with a very, very, I don't even know what I'm supposed to say. I just say a very, very big movie slash comedian for the new cartoon, but everything kind of is on hold just to figure out where I'm going to go. I always thought I would have ended up on the Dose one,

but they didn't come get me. So is everything still frozen? When are they going to work that out? Are they close to figuring that out, that strike thing? Because I think Bill Maher was about to redo his show without the writers because he just wanted to employ everybody else. And then he said something on Twitter that it seems that they're going to restart it.

Resume negotiations. And I guess that they had decided for a long time they were not going to be resuming. So that's why people were starting to make other plans. Damn. They're waiting people out. Because you got the writers and the actors all started. Mm-hmm.

That's going to hurt the production. The actors have not talked about resuming negotiations. Just the writers, I guess. Fuck. How long has it been? I figured this would say right here. This doesn't say. Has to be like

a few months right yeah definitely I would imagine May 2nd started second month no May 2nd May 2nd what

so five months four months almost five months whoa really I'm pretty sure they're gonna have to

find a way to figure it out not even I wouldn't even say from an actor's standpoint. Realistically, they're going to have to pay them. They need them. Yeah. Well, the actors and then also all the people that are involved in production that can't work either.

Because if you're a grip or you're a lighting guy or whatever you're doing. And that's all you do. Yeah, none of those people can work. Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're going to have to make, I don't see it dragging to maybe, I mean it can maybe drag to the end of the year, but at some point they're going to have to give in

to give them what they want. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck is happening. I don't know, but they've talked about doing that with the UFC, like a fighter's union, but I don't think that would work. Fighters are too individual. If someone offered someone a fight, like a big fight, maybe, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. What would the union be to do it?

Be to negotiate minimum contracts, maybe tweak health care, maybe put together some sort of a retirement plan, 401k plan for fighters. All those are good ideas. Yeah, definitely. You know, just to be able to take care of family afterwards. Yeah. That definitely is important. But there's never been like a fighters union that worked. I don't know if that's because it can't work. I've never heard of one working.

Like the boxers, did they have a boxing union? I don't think so. Yeah. It seems like it only works in some industries, but, man, these fucking strikes. If you're in that business, like that's hard, especially coming right off the pandemic where everybody didn't work for a long time already. Yeah. See, man, even though I'm glad I'm – well, I ain't going to say I'm glad I'm not in the world

because I plan on trying to get in the acting world at some point. But even just everything with the pandemic, like, I just had to figure different ways, man. Like our company, Bump Box, it ended up soaring through the pandemic because now you had everybody at home everybody want to jam music everybody want to do different type stuff so different stuff like that was dope um i just i'm i've always been a hustler now you know i got food trucks now i've got 18 wheeler um man i do a little bit of everything. So it was a crazy story.

You know, Popeye's had a run where they had a chicken sandwich, right? Yeah. You remember? Everybody's going crazy over it. Yeah. So my personal chef, I just always just have him make random stuff. And one day I'm like, man, I'm not waiting in that line. I want to make my own chicken sandwich. And we did it.

And the way that he made it, I don't know, it was just different, man. And it got to the point everybody just started calling it the Truth Chicken Sandwich. So now it's just like, man, we're just going to do the Truth Truck. It'll be chicken sandwich. It'll be chicken suya tacos. He got this, the Spanish corn he do. It's like no other, man man it's just a bunch of different stuff so where can people get this so right now we've been going for to figure out like i'm one

of them people man i'm cool with adapting the stuff but i like to push it to the limit so lately we just been going back and forth figuring out what we want to make a permanent location but knowing me i'm gonna try and find a lot and create my own food park at that point you know nice so right now there's no permanent spot but that's what i'm looking for one day yeah i'm one day within the next month i'm opening up a spot yeah nice so the trucks they're trucks ready i just got to figure out where i want to be. That's good for everybody to go. If people want to find out anything about this, is there a website they can go to? As far as the Truth Truck?

No, you gave me an idea. I do need to do that. Yeah. Because it's mainly Instagram, you know. Yeah, get that on Instagram now. You have it on Instagram already? Yeah, so you can look up. There it is, the Truth Truck.

Yeah, the Truth Truck. Do you have the truth truck.com not sure i do need to find that get that shit before this airs it's gonna be one of them russian porn sites yeah it's gonna be i'm looking for a boyfriend yeah yeah the main place for them yeah yes matter of fact look i'll pay for it now. What I was going to say, the main thing people can always, my Instagram, at TreyAVN, like I'm hands-on with everything, man. That, man, the main other thing that we're doing. See, there's so much other stuff I'll talk to you probably off air because if I go to pushing it now before for reasons like this,

and I get too ahead of myself. True truck.com is available. Oh, but the T-H-A. Yeah, T-H-A. Don't fuck this up, white boy. Sorry, sir. Let's see. Maybe not.

Did it say it's not available? No, maybe not. What? It's not available? But you know what? My people. Yeah, he probably has it. It says it's taken.

Yeah, so I'm going to find out. They may. I know I didn't physically do it. Well, I hope somebody didn't see your truck and then has it. It says it's taken. See my ass. Yeah, so I'm going to find out. They may. I know I didn't physically do it. Well, I hope somebody didn't see your truck and then register it. That would. Because you put the truck up on Instagram already? Yeah, because you know what people do do is they'll go buy it and then wait a little while. Make you have to buy it for them.

Exactly. I'm going to find that out. Hopefully, let's hope this conversation just was wasted and it's already done. But, um, that, you know, we can always,

man, um, you know, the crazy thing you shouted out bump box one time, man, and shit went crazy that next day. Oh, bump box.com.

Yeah. Yeah. You want a few people that actually it sent traffic like no other to the site, man. Oh, beautiful. Yeah. Good to hear site, man. Oh, beautiful. Yeah.

Good to hear that. Yeah, and that's been a blessing too. So we've been able to, like, you know, we had the Selena box, the Leah, the Notorious B. And what it's doing is ways to actually feed the family, you know, and do the DMX, you know. It's different ways we do it where we can help the states and also find ways to get more money for the family.

So everything I do, man, I always incorporate trying to give back in some sense. And I remember talking to Tyson, and Mike was like, man, Trey, I watch you do so much and spend so much. He's like, all the stuff you Um, we were talking about my holiday. I'm not sure if you're familiar. So in Houston, my holiday is trade a July 22nd, 23rd and 24th.

I got traded in Houston. I got one in Milwaukee too, but on my holiday, it was a day that everybody would celebrate me, but I switched it and made it a day to celebrate for the city. So I get all the kids in the city, their school supplies, backpacks, um, game rides I bring a bunch of athletes singers comedians entertainers movie stars that kids only can see on YouTube

I bring them all out I rent a stadium out and it's just a family fun they were kids get to experience different stuff that they never get to experience on giveaway cars scholarships like i just make it the whole weekend of me just giving back but he was like man trey you had your foundation so long man it's probably people out there that if they knew what you did that would damn their donate or people would come sponsor and i'm one of them people i don't know if if you, I guess you can consider it kind of prideful. It's just like, man, I don't really like asking people for nothing. I'm going to figure it out and just get it done.

So lately I've been really trying to focus on really making sure people understand about my foundation and what it is I really do so they can actually do their research or just do part do take part in it because you have a website where any of this stuff is listed yeah um angelbynature.com and then um a lot of people know us from angel by nature or during harvey we started relief gang but um everything we do man we do stuff if you go to google my name my name you'll see a bunch and people only get to see like 10-20% of what I do

alright oh yeah that's angel by nature well Trey thank you very much for coming here man I appreciate you good luck with your new album

good luck with Bump Box and the Truth Truck and everything it's always great to see you definitely you know I'm pretty sure we'll see each other soon at the fight

for sure alright take care bye everybody It's always great to see you. Definitely. I'm pretty sure we'll see each other soon at the fight. For sure. All right. Take care. Bye, everybody.