The Joe Rogan Experience - #2081 - Tony Hinchcliffe

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

Tony Hinchcliffe is a stand-up comedian, writer, and actor. He's also the co-host, along with Brian Redban, of the podcast and live YouTube show "Kill Tony." ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. We up? We're up. What up, dawg? Hey. Look at you, balling out of control. Two sold out arena shows for Kill Tony.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Yep. New Year's Eve, let's fucking go. And in town. Amazing. He gets to do an arena show, a 10-minute drive from your apartment. Yeah. Dude, you're balling out of control. Look at you, son.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We're pumped. Wearing pajamas to work. I love it. This is a full Jordan sweatsuit. I thought it was pajamas. I was like, Tony came in all casual in his PJs. There's stuff that I want to wear to do stand-up in that I can't do stand- but during the day you can do stand up in that oh i can't you 100 could i've literally put it on and then like right before i leave i go into black pants and a black hoodie one of my
Starting point is 00:00:56 my biggest mistakes ever is like i get high and then i get dressed it's a terrible idea it's a terrible idea i'll be wearing fucking raincoats and shit yeah i have a bunch i've been dressing very eccentric during the days lately it's fun it's fun yeah why not why shouldn't you you're a baller now yeah yeah and then at nighttime i at the last second i get scared sort of you still wear that crazy belt buckle oh i wear the belt buckles everywhere. I got more. Someone just sent me a golden pony made of gold that says golden pony in big letters.
Starting point is 00:01:31 My homie Bones Eye that makes all those leather joke books on Kill Tony just showed me one that he's almost finished with, which is the alien head of the mothership with the two-kill Tony guns crossed over. I mean, a big one, dude. You're going to fucking love it. So now people know that I like belt buckles, so they're going out and fucking getting me custom-made belt buckles. Oh, man. Boom.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Cody Garbrandt gave me a gold chain that his jeweler made, and on one side is my face, and on the other side is my dog's face have you worn it yet no let me tell you something i told my wife she has to wear it i go she goes i'm gonna wear it with the dog's face i go the fuck you are you wear it with my face out wear it everywhere you go but if you try that on when you're chilling at home one day and you're like just wearing shorts or something you throw that chain on you might chilling at home one day and you're like just wearing shorts or something, you throw that chain on, you might never take it off. No, I'm afraid to ignite the Italian in me. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Yeah. I'm afraid to start wearing gold chains and shit and pinky rings. A hundred percent. That's what happens. Yeah. I don't want to ignite that part of me. Yeah. I got it.
Starting point is 00:02:39 You know, like when Mike Tyson was fat, one of the things that he said, he did want to work out. He goes, I'm afraid to ignite my ego. Because it did. It ignited his ego. Then it became Mike Tyson again. He goes, I'm afraid to. What was his exact quote when he decided to fight again? He said something like, the gods of war.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Yeah, there it is. That's baller as fuck. Oh, my God. Cody can wear shit like that because he's a cool dude. That's baller as fuck. Oh, my God. Cody can wear shit like that because he's a cool dude. I'm an old dork. I can't be wearing that. Oh, that's a good gateway. It's pretty cool, though.
Starting point is 00:03:14 That's a good gateway. I like the Marshall one, though. I'll wear that. That dog's the best. Golden Retrievers are literally the greatest dogs of all time. They're so different than any other dog. They're like people. They're so weird.
Starting point is 00:03:28 It's like they just, they're so tuned in. Like there's all these different things that I say to that dog where he knows exactly what I'm talking about. But it's not like, sit, give me your paw. It's like, hey, man, you want to watch TV? And he just goes running with me into the TV room. Wow. And he hops up on the couch And he just goes running with me into the TV room. Wow. And he hops up on the couch with me and cuddles with me. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:48 He's just, my friend Mike says they're all love sponges. It's like a love sponge. Yeah. I've been thinking about getting a dog, but everybody's told me not to until I'm done with the road. Yeah, don't. Don't. It's a real problem. You feel bad.
Starting point is 00:04:04 You feel bad. You feel bad. Your dog is getting dog sit or your friend is over your house and they're probably not paying attention to the dog or walking the dog. This dog is the happiest dog that I've ever had, but he's also the dog that I put the most time with. We spend a lot of time together. I throw the ball for him every day. When we lived in California, we ran
Starting point is 00:04:30 the hills all the time. It's like we have a relationship. I take him to the studio. He always throws up in the car unless he's in my car and he's in the front seat. If you're petting him, he won't throw up. But if he's in the backseat, you're going to hear. It's just something about motion.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Some dogs, they get in the car, and that's why they like to stick their head out the window. I think they don't like the motion, too. It just feels, why are we moving? They don't understand. They're sitting and they're moving. Probably in their dog brain, it like what is this i got to see my old dog from la that i haven't seen in like uh two and a half years or something like that maybe three years uh a few weeks ago i did a show in san diego and my ex came to the show big theater and uh they made
Starting point is 00:05:22 it down to the green room and it was like one of those old soldier reunion videos oh it was unbelievable she never forgets it was great yeah when a dog really loves you yeah my my oldest daughter has a little chihuahua whip it mix named snoop and uh whenever i see snoop he just runs towards me, like full blast, like literally knows I'm going to pick him up, so he kind of like almost launches himself to me. He just runs up to me, launches himself to me, and I carry him. He only wants to be carried. Like everywhere, he wants to give you little kisses on your face,
Starting point is 00:05:58 and you want you to carry him. Amazing. And he's just so cool. But he's a little annoying in that if you watch TV with him, if you're not petting him, he'll paw your face. Oh. Yeah, he's just so cool. He likes to like, but he's a little annoying and if you watch TV with him, if you're not petting him, he'll paw your face. Oh. Yeah, he'll start doing this like, hey man, don't do that. Stop doing that.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Wow. But you know, he's like four. Right. Like I can't really train him now, but I hate dude, don't, don't fucking do that. He's like, then fucking pet me. It's like this thing where you get this little chihuahua on your lap. And I'm like, come on, but don't do my face like that. Come on, man. He's like, then pet me.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Then pet me. And you just got to keep your hand on him. You can't just keep your hand on him. You have to move it. You can't. You got to rub him. The second you stop moving it, he paws your face. Oh.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Keep rubbing me, bitch. Wow. What a life. Dogs have it made. This dog does, though. He's just a fucking little love bug. It's funny because little dogs
Starting point is 00:06:49 generally like they're a little weirded out by people sometimes. Not this one. The moment I met him, he just jumps to everybody. Everybody's like, you're my friend! Like, everyone's my friend! He just has no worries about people not being his best friend. Just runs right up to him.
Starting point is 00:07:05 He's not scared of people. Some little dogs are, like, just weirded out by people. Yeah, David Lucas' little puppy's adorable. He's got a little French bulldog, right? Ron had that one that got snatched up. Yeah. I found some feathers in my yard the other day, and I was worried one of the chickens got snatched.
Starting point is 00:07:25 But it's something else, some other bird. We have foxes. Yeah? Do those come out at night? They come out in the morning. I've seen them in the morning. I've seen them at night, too, driving. But we've got security camera footage of them.
Starting point is 00:07:44 It's pretty cool because the security camera is very high resolution. So it's good to get this video of this cool looking little animal. And they make a weird noise. You ever heard of fox? Uh-uh. Oh, God. It's so strange. What does it sound like?
Starting point is 00:07:55 I don't want to do it. Let me hear it. You're good at animal noises. I'll do it if I hear it. I want to hear it again because I forgot exactly how it sounds. Like there's so many animal noises I have in my head. We still laugh about the other night a few weeks ago. We were all wasted for some reason doing wolf impressions and mitzvahs.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And you came and sat down and were like, Joe, show us your wolf impression. And you did an actual wolf. We were just howling like morons. You sounded like there was a wolf in the distance. Listen to this thing. It's like a scream.'s weird that's it oh that's frightening yeah but when you see them they're so cool looking like i wouldn't be sad
Starting point is 00:08:36 if you only ate like one of my chickens don't eat all my chickens motherfucker because then i have to kill you yeah but you can get one chicken, one stupid chicken. Fox Sounds. Yeah, that's what they sound like. Fox Sounds is the only Fox channel I don't watch regularly. I have so many animal noises in my head. I watched this video yesterday. Have you ever heard a cat mimic a bird? No. Okay, watch this.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Really? I mean, I'll be honest. It doesn't sound exactly like a bird, but this does not sound like a cat. Oh, wait a minute. That's it. Oh, yeah. It does different animals out here. Did you know that I had a bit about that?
Starting point is 00:09:16 Really? Yeah, yeah. I had a bit about this cat that I used to have that was a big old fluffy cat this like cute little cat until it saw something outside and then it became murderous and like they have this they do this thing when they want to bite so they it's they're so it's so weird that you're a beautiful little cat that was before the jre so i didn't know the statistics about cat murder. It wasn't before the podcast. Before an episode, rather, we talked about how many fucking birds and mammals get murdered by cats every year.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yeah. Fucking billions, dude. In America, billions of mammals and birds get murdered by cats. Scary animal. I had an angry one when I went to college. My brother did, and I lived with my brother. And there were two cats, Hops and Misty. And Hops was cool as fuck, jumped up on the ceiling. Just jumped all the time.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Loved jumping. And Misty was like this angry bitch that would just. It's like, you don't really get used to that. There's something even as a human that's 30, 50 times its size. It's like, ugh. Yeah, you don't want to fight a cat. Right. If a cat was trying to fight you, think if a rat was trying to fight you.
Starting point is 00:10:32 You'd be freaked out. Yeah. Just a little rat. Uh-huh. Yeah. Dude, everything can kill you. Yeah. Everything can kill you.
Starting point is 00:10:40 That's one of the more exciting things about hunting in mountain lion territory. Your hackles are always up. The chances of them trying to kill you are very low. The chances of them killing you if they want to are very high. Wow. Damn. They're very high. If you get snatched up by a mountain lion, you have almost no chance.
Starting point is 00:11:03 So for that, you have like a pistol on your side though. Yeah. You should keep a pistol if you're in mountain lion you have almost no chance so for that you have like a pistol on your side though yeah you should keep a pistol if you're in mountain lion territory if you're in bear territory you keep a large gun not not most guys carry rifles but they'll also carry like if they're bow hunting they'll carry probably a 45 or a 10 millimeter a big gun a gun with a heavy round and still you're fucked. They're so big. You don't know how big a bear is until you see one in the flesh on the ground in front of you. Yeah, this is one that's, this is somewhere in Europe.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I think that's a stag. And this bear is just fucking dragging this 300 pound stag around the way you would drag your luggage. I mean, that's a big big animal it's bigger than 300 pounds I think that might even be an elk it's either a stag or an elk but I mean that's a solid 500 pound animal and that bear is just fucking mauling it and it's not even a big bear
Starting point is 00:12:00 that's not a big one the really really really scary ones are the Alaska ones. The Alaska ones are insane. My friend Steve Rinella told this story on the podcast as did my friend Remy Warren who was there as well where they got attacked by an enormous
Starting point is 00:12:15 coastal brown bear. It was like 11 feet. Enormous. It had claimed the elk that they shot. They shot an elk on a hunting trip oh shit and the way alaska is this they were on this place called a fog neck island or fog neck island is insanely dense and so if you're gonna pack out if it's like a certain time at night like say if you shoot the animal and it's like 5 p.m and it gets dark at 8 p.m. you you can't get it out in time it takes a
Starting point is 00:12:46 full day and you can't manage your way through that brush in the dark it's too dense you're going a mile it takes you hours hours and hours to go a mile because it's just so dense you're just moving through everything and so they hung this this elk up and they went they took some of the meat back with them, and then they went back in the morning to pack it out. It's cool, so you don't have to worry about the meat going bad. They didn't realize when they got there that a bear had already found it. And the bear had claimed it.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And so they said, let's sit down and eat lunch before we pack out. So we'll fuel up before we pack out because it's a long package. So at that point, they didn't know that there was a bear. They had no idea. So these guys are all planning to carry like 100 pounds each on their backs. And they're going to go miles and miles through this dense shit that's going to take forever. So they're like, let's eat. So they're sitting there eating.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And someone hears something. And they turn. So they're sitting there eating and someone hears something and they turn and they see a fucking monster of a bear running straight at them in the camp. And the bear probably didn't realize there were so many of them. And that's maybe the only thing that saved them because they kind of scattered. And one guy, this dude they call Dirtmouth, he was actually riding the the Bears back at one point for like 10 yards on top of the Bears back and then fell off and the bail ran off and so the bear was in the woods like watching them making noises like wolf and I'm making these noises and now they got their rifles out but no one had a rifle out no one had anything out
Starting point is 00:14:24 they were all just eating sandwiches Wow my friend Remy said he had his gun in his bag like fucking ah so let's say you had a gun on your side like Jesus Christ what do you do because that thing ran past them right what if you shot it and it turned around and ran back like the noise scare them at all maybe right maybe maybe and it depends on where you are. Some of them have never seen a person before. What if you had one of those air horns that's like... No.
Starting point is 00:14:52 No. No. The bear spray doesn't even work all the time. It's just an embarrassing way to die. Just... And then it's just fucking tearing you apart. Yeah. Bear spray doesn't even work all the time.
Starting point is 00:15:02 There's that spray that they use. My friend John, he runs a hunting camp in Alberta. The Rivets, John and Jen, they're awesome people. And John had an encounter with a grizzly and he sprayed it. And he said the bear didn't even react. He said he just kind of walked right through the spray. I was like, oh, fuck. Imagine if that's all you have is this spray and you're counting on this saving you from
Starting point is 00:15:26 the bear. And he just fucking. It's like, you ever seen those videos where dudes get tased and they just fucking take it? Oh, yeah. The cops are tasing the guy. You know, get down. Get down.
Starting point is 00:15:35 He's like. Like, just dude, PCP'd up or something. And he fucking pulls those cords out of him. Like, now what? Right. Now what? Now your now your chords are ground But I've only seen one grizzly bear in the wild in my life. They look at you so different They look at you so different we're talking about this on bottom of the barrel the other day
Starting point is 00:15:56 Because like a black bear is a different animal black bears look you like who are you you can eat me? I'm not gonna eat you like what's going on like black personally grizzly bears look you like this like, who are you? Are you going to eat me? Am I going to eat you? Like, what's going on? Like, black bears look at you. Grizzly bears look at you like this, like, how fast can you run? Oh, God. There's a darkness in their eyes, dude, that's just, that's a predator with no, that's the apex. They're not scared of nobody other than bigger bears. Right. That's all they're scared of.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And the one I saw, man, he wasn't even that big. He was like a six foot bear, like a younger bear. Maybe seven foot. Maybe not that big. The big ones when you get like 10, 11 feet. Oh my God, dude. Jesus. They're just massive killing machines and they're so durable.
Starting point is 00:16:44 That's the thing about them that's so crazy. When you watch them fight, they beat the fuck out of each other and they don't even seem to have marks on them. They're biting the shit out of each other's necks. Although there is one that I saw recently where it looked like the bear got the other bear in the guts and he just made a giant gash in his stomach
Starting point is 00:17:02 and they were going to war, like on the side of this, well, this one person's gash in his stomach. And they were going to war, like on the side of this. Well, this one person's filming them in the woods. So if that thing's coming after you, man, your frame, like we were talking about a cat, you know, that's what that is. It's like the same kind of thing. It's a wild animal, just much bigger. Like your brain is not even going to correctly compute how much stronger they are than you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:27 It's an impossible number. That's crazy. And if you've ever seen them run, they can run faster than people can run. Yeah, so these two dudes. These two dudes going at each other. Like, if that's coming after you, man, these are a thousand pounds. They're just biting the shit out of each other. They're trying to tell the other one, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:18:00 This is all my food. These are all my ladies. Get out of here. Bro, imagine you're in the woods you stumble upon that that one's pretty dominant there on the right yeah that's a bigger bigger bear i think the the young one is uh yeah these bears don't know jujitsu there's no bottom position really some of them do it no there's no benefit in bottom position in bear fighting right Right. No. No, they don't have submissions. But they do, like, have some little hip moves, little hip escapes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And they do, like, position themselves to hold you down. Seems like they've got some experience. Yeah. They'll do side control. You know, they're, like, biting the neck and holding them down like this. If you're a bear and you're on the bottom, you're in a bad spot. Yeah. There's no Charles Oliveros of the bear world. If you're a bear and you're on the bottom, you're in a bad spot. There's no Charles Olivares of the bear world.
Starting point is 00:18:50 There's no Paul Craigs of the bear world. There's a bit of judo. They use the other one's energy against it. A little wrestling. I was watching a funny clip earlier. Chappelle said that Prince judoed him. Have you seen this? Because Prince took the picture of Dave Chappelle playing Prince serving pancakes. He took that picture and put it on an album cover before he passed away and made that the cover to like one of his last albums.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And Chappelle said he judoed me and Jimmy. Oh, this is it. Yeah, this is great. Single. Gosh. That makes me so happy that that happened. That just made me so happy. That's a Prince Judo move right there, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah, watch this. Well, no, it's like, you know, you make fun of Prince in a sketch and he'll just use you in his album. He uses your own joke against yourself. What am I gonna do? Sue him for using a picture of me dressed up like it was impossible? It's genius.
Starting point is 00:19:46 It's checkmate right there. Amazing. God, I love Dave. Those fucking sketches back in the day were so impactful. His show's the best show that's ever existed. The best comedy sketch show. No doubt. And it was only two seasons.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah. Which is so crazy that and in living color people sleep on in living color in living color was wild i remember i was playing pool once with my friend john and i had no idea of the sketches i didn't understand i think it was like a super bowl thing like did they do one where the halftime, they had an in-the-living color? Something like that? They did, right? So that was the first time I'd watched it at the pool hall. And I was like, oh, my God, this dude is doing Fire Marshal Bill, Jim Carrey's doing it.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I was like, this is crazy. This is the craziest show ever. Dude, that shit fucking raised me. I mean, all of it. Bro, Handyman? Yep. He had a mentally handicapped superhero? Jesus Christ, he was called Handyman?
Starting point is 00:20:49 Oh, so funny. Dude, I tell everybody. People forgot how good Damon Wayans is. They forgot for whatever reason because he decided to become a TV star and a movie star. Dude, when that guy was doing stand-up, he was like Chappelle level. He was, at his time, he was the guy that I admired the most, like in his prime. Because he was in his prime when I was just starting to get to L.A. Dude, he was so good.
Starting point is 00:21:19 His stand-up was so good. They were all a bunch of store guys. Like Jim Carrey was young on this. Well, Damon always hung out at the store. He would hang out at the store and create comedy like on stage.
Starting point is 00:21:36 He would just start to, he didn't worry at all about silence, about dead spaces. He was using it the way Mitzi wanted people to use it, like as a lab to create stuff and damon films all the sets so he has a tape recorder like a camera in the back he films all the sets he's had all the sets since the 90s he's been doing that wow he just got that tv money baby yeah the tv money came rolling in and it like, I could just hang out at the house.
Starting point is 00:22:07 There's Sam Kinison. Sam Kinison in living color. And then cut to Jamie Foxx sketch. Bro, that's right. And we're going to try to get some last-minute instructions from the coach. We're going to try to get a word from him right now. Here he comes now. Coach, can we get a word from you real quick?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yeah, sure, K. Now, what did you tell your players before they left the locker room this afternoon? Well, what I told them was just relax and concentrate and play some ball i mean you know i don't know the sketches no that's okay it was a great show man so those are in my opinion those are the two greatest sketch shows oh yeah the cast on that's absolutely insane you think of that cast just the fly girls is jennifer lopez what? She's like one of the dancing girls? What kind of a cast do you have? Doesn't sing, doesn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Jennifer Lopez is like, how much talent do they have on that fucking show? Yeah. And Kenan was a great fucking talk show host, too. Kenan made some great movies, and he was great on the Kenan Ivory Wayans show. He was fun, man. Fire Marshal Bill was based off of the actual West Hollywood fire marshal. Yeah, who got burnt up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:10 It was like an intellectual thing, right? Yeah. So Jim Carrey was trying to come up with characters while sitting in the phones room at the comedy store. It's like a legendary thing that you hear about, at least back when I got hired as a phones guy there. Because in the hallway that straight down the hallway there was this old fire hose that at the time it's gone now i'm positive but at the time it looked like it hadn't been changed in fucking 40 years like this old it would never work it was like dried up old hose wrapped up and you get told the story uh that uh jim carrey was
Starting point is 00:23:43 sitting at that desk facing down that hallway, tapping the pencil on his head, trying to come up with more character ideas. And this burnt up half a hair, cross-eyed, fucking missing his top lip, scars all over, one eye closed. Guy came in, checking everything in the electrical sockets and putting butter knives in the sides and shit. And Jim Carrey's just sitting there writing it all down. Oh, my God. Oh, God. The store was such a fun place for chaos and misfits.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Oh, yeah. We used to always say, we were in the back parking lot, some schizophrenic person would come back there. We were like, this place is like a magnet. It's a magnet for insane people. Yep. It really is. all across the board like the original talent coordinator of the comedy store when when he got fired and then duncan
Starting point is 00:24:33 became the talent coordinator i'm like who the fuck is this guy yeah when i first talked to started talking to duncan we became friends from conversations we'd have over the phone because i'd call him like hey, did you hear this Ram Dass thing? Like he'd just tell me. Yeah. And we'd start talking about wild shit. Dude, he's a fucking genius, bro. I messaged him yesterday
Starting point is 00:24:55 because Lil Hobo was a guest on Kill Tony and it was so, so funny. I loved it. A lot of people, a lot of the fans hated it because they didn't like Lil Hobo's voice. But like,'t care but that's reading comments right exactly well no I get my reports from the producers but yeah basically yeah they told me that they read the comments exactly yeah don't read the comments but anyway uh but I loved it so much I don't give a fuck what the masses say so I asked Duncan I go and it's like a leak of information but i don't
Starting point is 00:25:26 care i asked duncan yesterday i go hey i want little hobo to make a video that's gonna air during the arena like he's taking over the show for a second uh can we come over and shoot just a quick hour shoot anytime this week you name it we'll show up he goes little hobo's agent is with caa his name's stephen lebowitz he's been a real Lil Hobo's agent is with CAA. His name's Steven Lebowitz. He's been a real, Lil Hobo's been a real diva lately. And he started sending me AI songs that he can make in like two minutes
Starting point is 00:25:54 about how I'm not gonna do this and I'm bigger than everything. He just sent me one. He just sent me some AI song. Oh, they're all hysterical. I didn't even listen to it. Should we listen to it here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Hold on a second. He we listen to it? Yeah He sent me like seven songs he's like little hobos making an album so he's probably not gonna want to work with you He goes he goes he was complaining the other day that you stole his idea for a variety show All these texts, okay the healthy lifestyle he said dude I found an AI That instantly makes songs about anything you want and made this in less than a minute. So let's hear it. I haven't heard it yet. about health, no exaggeration. He wakes up every morning, hits the gym real hard. Lipped the weights, running miles. He's a health rock star.
Starting point is 00:26:48 But it's not just about the physical. Nah, it's more than that. He promotes eating clean. Gotta feel your body fat. David Lucas is showing us the way. The box apple, keeping healthy every day. Gotta eat right. Gotta exercise, no doubt. He's the one that's pushing us to work.
Starting point is 00:27:07 It made it less than a minute, he said. David Lucas eating clean. Oh, my God. Imagine if David Lucas made a 180. He's about 480 right now. But imagine if he made a 180. It'd be great. I hope so. I love it.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I'd love a story like that I mean I'd get to make fun of all the extra skin hanging off of his body he would think the jokes would end they would just begin yeah he would have to have an operation yeah that's a heavy operation to your skin is an organ people don't like to think about it that way but if your organ has to get cut open and pieced back together that That's real shit. That's real shit. And you run the risk of infection.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And infections can fucking kill you, man. Like, you shouldn't take that kind of surgery lightly. One guy apparently avoided that. And this is like, I don't know if he's like, see, people have different genetics, apparently, when it comes to skin, which is why some women get crazy stretch marks and some women don't know if he's like, see, people have different genetics apparently when it comes to skin, which is why some women get crazy stretch marks and some women don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:10 You know, some dudes, they get real fat and then they lose the weight and then they look great and ripped. And other dudes have all this like weird extra skin. Even guys that don't lose too much weight, if you lose like 100 pounds or 50 pounds, like some guys have like crazy extra skin like dudes that i know and other guys just like you don't look like you're ever fat this is crazy um so this dude apparently went on a water fast for 365 days he was really fat and um he just had iv vitamins and water first of all what kind discipline? How do you have the kind of discipline to do that? He went from 382 days, excuse me, without eating.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Okay. In 1965, 27-year-old Angus, he fasted for one year and 17 days, ate no food at all, and lost 125 kilograms, which is 19.7 stone. Oh, no. Everyone knows what that is. Yeah, I have no idea. 125 kilograms is like, I think it's 2.2. So that would be 300 pounds.
Starting point is 00:29:18 What does that weigh? What is 125 kilograms in pounds? It's 2.2. I think that'd be like 270. 270? 270. Okay? 270. Okay. So he lost that much.
Starting point is 00:29:30 So he lost 270 pounds. Jesus Christ. He weighed like 480 or something like that. Okay. Angus reportedly sick of being obese. So he checked into the University Department of Medicine at the Royal Infirmary of Dundee. He weighed 207 kilograms. So that's 440? 450? What is 207 kilograms? Roughly that. 450? He told hospital staff he was ready to cut
Starting point is 00:29:56 out food altogether. So doctors happily agreed to monitor his progress. Oh, so he did it with the doctors. He's like, I don't want to eat anymore. Wow, that's crazy. They didn't expect the fast to last long, but they thought that a short fast would help him to lose some weight. To compensate for his lack of nutrients, he was prescribed multivitamins to take regularly, including potassium and sodium, as well as yeast. As days turned to weeks, Angus's persistence increased as Scott wanted to reach his reported ideal weight of 180 pounds.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Wow. So he kept going, much to his doctor's surprise. Angus would attend hospital visits frequently and often stay overnight. He received regular blood tests, all which revealed his body was remarkably functioning just fine. As weeks turned into months, he compensated for his lack of food by drinking more black tea, black coffee, and sparkling water, all of which are calorie-free. His body began to adapt to the lack of food by burning its own fat stores for energy. For the last eight months, Angus' blood glucose levels were consistently very low, two millimole per liter, but Scott did not suffer any adverse effects as a result.
Starting point is 00:31:02 In the final few months, he began to have a pinch of sugar or milk in his tea and coffee. For those wondering, he went to the toilet every 40 to 50 days. He shit every 50 days. What is he shitting? If you don't eat for 150 days, what are you shitting?
Starting point is 00:31:20 Angus eventually called it quits after 382 days, having finally reached his dream weight of 180 pounds. Wow. According to Chicago Tribune report, he had forgotten the taste of food before his first meal after the fast. He ate a boiled egg with a slice of bread and butter for his first breakfast, telling reporters, I thoroughly enjoyed my egg and I feel very full. Wow.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah, that's weird. I just wonder what happened to him after that, if he kept it off. He said he died five years later. He was 192. He died? How old was he? Oh, he remained at a comfortable weight five years later, 196. So he only gained 16 pounds from eating.
Starting point is 00:32:05 That's pretty amazing. It's weird that they switched to pounds there at the end. Yeah, that is weird. Oh. 196. So he only gained 16 pounds from eating. That's pretty amazing. It's weird that they switched to pounds there at the end. Yeah, that is weird. Yeah. Is that in an English article? I don't, I mean. What's the article? Diabetes.co.uk.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Yeah, UK. They're weird over there. They spell tires with a Y. Like, what are you doing? Can we agree? Isn't this the English language? Yeah. We invented tires, bitch.
Starting point is 00:32:26 We did. America? Henry Ford. Really? I don't know. Good beer. BF Goodrich. Well, Henry Ford invented the car, but I feel like there was a French guy that came along before Henry Ford that invented the internal combustion engine.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Is that correct? Who invented the internal combustion? Who invented the very first automobile? Ford was the first to manufacture it. Yeah, you just fixed the assembly line. Right. Who invented? I know in Akron, Ohio, they mastered the tire.
Starting point is 00:33:04 They're still kicking them out there. That's where the big Goodyear factory is. Yeah. BF Goodrich. You know what's really weird about tires? They haven't figured out a way to not have them be filled with air and have them perform as good as the ones that are filled with air. It's a stupid thing.
Starting point is 00:33:24 First commercially successful internal combustion engines created by, say that guy's name. ones that are filled with air it's a stupid thing first commercially successful internal combustion engines created by say that guy's name it 10 year new around 1860 is that in France is that the French guy I guess we have four people's names popped up Oh different guys who made it I'm guessing the guy with the last name Otto probably I like that guy's name. Just because I can't say it. 1860. Okay, first modern internal combustion engine known as the auto engine. It's created in 1876.
Starting point is 00:33:53 So one guy created it and the other guy was like, I could do it better. And then he made it better, which is what always happens. Internal combustion engine usually refers to it. And it's like, that's just what always happens. The diesel engine was invented by Rudolph Diesel. Ooh, that's a good name for it.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Oh, no shit. Yeah. Diesel. I'm wondering if Shaq knows that. You think he'd change his name? He's got so many nicknames. Shaq? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah. He's actually really good at making them up, too. Yeah, Shaq's the fucking man. Yeah. You ever want to feel tiny? Shake that dude's hand. It's like shaking a person, like a whole person instead of a hand. He's so big.
Starting point is 00:34:33 It's insane. He's so big. The Rock was huge too. Yeah. How fun was it to work out with The Rock? I called Tony Hinchcliffe at like 10 o'clock in the morning. I'm like, what are you doing? It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:44 You want to work out with The Rock today? I was so hungover. It was hilarious. I remember I was still on my side when I took the call because your phone rings a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll. I'm like, oh, shit. What is this going to be?
Starting point is 00:34:58 I'm like, yo. He's like, you want to work out with The Rock? I'm like, yes. He's like, up. I really feel like sometimes that we're not really doing this dude it's so funny you mentioned that literally last night in the fucking green room of the mothership i go i'm talking to hank big hank is sitting there because he's a big sopranos fan and i go dude i did this podcast with the kids from the Sopranos a few days ago
Starting point is 00:35:25 and it was like we grew up together it was like we're brothers and sisters because we are all the same age and I kind of lived very different but kind of the same way was living vicariously that type of life but different but with them growing up it was a show that I could relate to and I go I think I'm like running out of like cool things to manifest. Like I can't, I don't even know what's left for me. And right then Brigham brings in some guy who I don't recognize immediately. And I shake his hand and I'm like, damn, man, look at you. I feel like you've killed a lot of people or something like that.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I said, I was just being goofy. And Brigham goes you know ray and i realize it's ray mysterio jr one of the greatest wrestlers of all time who i've been watching for three fucking decades multi-time heavyweight champion and he's famously the small guy so for me and matt edgar and every fucking guy just under 40 that wasn't huge or like physically gifted. He was one of our guys. I mean, that's who you like cheered for. He was known as the giant killer because he would beat the big guys.
Starting point is 00:36:35 He beat guys that were seven feet tall. He would shock them doing little guy shit. And I didn't even recognize him at first. In my day, there were two guys that I really loved. The number one guy was Jimmy Superfly Snooker. Fuck yeah. Oh, I remember. And Superfly would get on that top rope,
Starting point is 00:36:53 and he would do this. Yeah. And he'd fucking fly off and bodies, like, what is that called when you land on someone? It's technically a full body press. Full body press? Really? Actually, the full body press is when you lift him over your head and do that, which you would also do.
Starting point is 00:37:08 So when you throw yourself through the air. A splash. So that was Jimmy Superfly's snooker move. Yeah. When he would get on the top of everybody and go crazy. Oh, yeah. And the other guy was Bob Backlund. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:19 And the reason why I like Bob Backlund, I'm like, I bet Bob Backlund would fuck all these dudes up. Because I understood technique. Yeah. I was like, no, no, no, that's a real wrestler. Like, look how he moves. He moves like a real wrestler. All those other guys are doing crazy shit. Jimmy Superfly snuck a ditty off the fucking top of the cage. That's so insane.
Starting point is 00:37:36 How bad is that for your knees? And your back? And your brain? Look at the size of him. He was fucking huge, too. Oh, yeah. But get some Bob Backlund. Show me some Bob Backlund.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Oh, man. Bob Backlund was a legit wrestler. He played his role so perfectly because I hated him when I was a kid. I was part of that last regime where he was still there when I was like three, four, five, six. And Hogan was just about to beat him and start taking over. But he was just this old boring with his blue tights and blue knee pads right and like like a real shoes yeah and i'm just like who is this guy that's what i like yeah it wasn't my thing as a kid i needed something larger than life no i like that dude
Starting point is 00:38:17 who looks like a regular athlete like this oh yeah this is him way i remember seeing him but i remember seeing him and like right away i'm like oh that's a real wrestler that guy's gonna fuck that dude up that's a real wrestler yeah if you know wrestling like that's what a fucking killer's built like look at like slugger looking at this guy like what the fuck killers are never built like that except for Brock. Brock is the only guy who's like a killer. Well, even Alexander Carellon, who's the great, he wasn't built like a bodybuilder. What is that move?
Starting point is 00:38:56 It's a fucking insanity. It's nonsense. Yeah. Oh, the old, you mentioned that working in a fight and everybody just going, oh! Just tapping your butt. How about that move? Why doesn't anybody do that in a fight?
Starting point is 00:39:10 The old sunset flip. Oh, it didn't work. I know all the names of these stupid moves, by the way. However, I do not know these. This is so entertaining, he gets off. I can't fucking believe this. This is such bullshit. I'm out of here, but he's got to make the 10 count.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Lex Luger's so mad. He's got to make the 10 count. He's got is so mad. He's got to make the 10 count. He's got to turn it around. Look at that glorious haircut he's got. My God. If I had hair, I'd grow it like that. I'd full Theo Vaughn it. Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Absolutely. Come on, you want a piece of me? Show me some Bob Backlund in his prime. Yeah. The first video I pulled up was 1980, and it was a video of him and Hulk Hogan, which this is not the Hulk Hogan I know. He comes out in this giant cape.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Oh, yeah, this is pre-Everybody's a Star. Hulk Hogan's the fucking man. Oh, yeah. How cool was it hanging out with that guy? Well, so what's interesting is after hanging out with him and The Rock, it's really interesting to see how blatant his spinal injury is because you can see after hanging out with The Rock the four or five inches that Hogan lost because like I showed you when we were in here with Hogan,
Starting point is 00:40:18 their face-off where they're truly eye-to-eye is legendary. And now they're not. I met Hulk when he was at full height. Oh, okay. I met him outside of a cigar bar in Beverly Hills in like the 90s, something like that. It was early on. I'd only been in Hollywood for a couple years.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And I remember going, Jesus Christ, he was so big. And then the next time I met him, did you ever see that UFC thing I did with him? No. What did you guys do? Dude, find that Joe Rogan interviews Hulk Hogan for UFC. It was when the UFC, like Spike TV, had wrestling on. And so Hulk Hogan came to do a promo with me and him,
Starting point is 00:41:00 and I got to interview him. Wow. Oh, dude, I went full pro wrestling. Really? Yes. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me see Wow. Oh, dude, I went full pro wrestling. Really? Yes. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me see it.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Oh, fuck it. You didn't mention this to me, all the arguments we used to have about pro wrestling. I went full pro wrestling. I was in on it. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to watch how I do it. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I was like, there's no other way to handle this. I'm dealing with fucking Hulkamania running wild. Fuck yeah. What are you going to do? What are you going to handle this. I'm dealing with fucking Hulkamania running wild. Fuck yeah. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? When it runs wild on you. Here it is.
Starting point is 00:41:29 One of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time, sports and entertainment, huge personality, the one and only Hulk Hogan. Welcome aboard, sir. How are you? Thank you, my brother. You know, to be here with Joe Mania, Dana White, it doesn't get any better than this brother. These guys are going to war out here. It's unbelievable. Now you've been in some MMA fights before. Are you a UFC fan? Oh I'm a huge fan my brother. I sure am. Now I understand that you have recently announced a partnership with TNA Wrestling and its president Dixie Carter and you're gonna be moving to Spike TV.
Starting point is 00:42:04 We're gonna see some Hulkamania on Spike TV. Tell us more about that. Well, you know, brother, tonight, I got a ton of energy. And I'm partners with Spike. I'm partners with Dixie Carter. I'm partners with TNA. And we just got the green light, brother.
Starting point is 00:42:17 On January 4th, TNA Impact, we're going wide open. We're going head-on-head. We're going to battle with the WWD. Monday going to war. TNA Impact. We're going wide open. We're going to head on head. We're going to battle with a W W D Monday night. January 4th. Hulk Hogan and T and a we're coming after
Starting point is 00:42:35 everybody. We're coming after everybody. Now I understand that you have you recently released a book. You've done a wrestling tour in Australia. When are we going to see Hulk Hogan? Wrestle in TNA. Well, brother, I'm going January 4th. Like I said, Monday night. We're going to war TNA Impact, but you never know. I'm going over there to take over.
Starting point is 00:42:50 The maniacs are coming. All the TNA stars are going to be there. And you never know when the old man with the yellow boots might just step in that ring, brother. Hulk Hogan is coming back, ladies and gentlemen. TNA Wrestling live on Spike TV. Hulk's here for the fights.
Starting point is 00:43:06 You know you want to watch him on TV. What you gonna do, brother? You're USC. I went off full on. That's the good question. Thank you very much, sir. I love that. That's amazing. You led that interview well, too. Those were some short answers from him
Starting point is 00:43:21 up front. Right back to it. That was good. Yeah, those are always weird. Yeah, I'm a fan. Okay. Yeah, the weird Spike TV interviews. Yeah. I did one with Sylvester Stallone once, too. It was good.
Starting point is 00:43:33 It's an interesting position that you make look easy, interviewing those guys after fights, interviewing people with these huge personalities. Look at them. See what I'm saying? They're eye to eye. And there's no desantis boots in this by the way they're actually that height back in the day look at that yeah hulk lost like four inches and meanwhile when we were working out with the rock it was literally like oh it was
Starting point is 00:43:55 crazy he's built like he's gigantic he looks like a superhero in a movie all the time all the time yeah just when he walks in you look at at him like, what's the size of this guy? Yeah, everything looks small in his hand. But meanwhile, couldn't be nicer, couldn't be more humble. So cool. He's a good dude. He's a good dude. Good dude to hang out with. I'm going to give a little behind the scenes here.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I was in a sauna at 185 degrees sitting in between The Rock and Joe Rogan. So for those of you that grew up without a father, you still have a chance, everybody. So many laughs in that sauna across from Shane and Ahsan. I thought it was really cool, too, that we decided, like, we don't have to film this. Let's just have fun. Yeah, exactly. Let's just have fun. Because I know he films a lot of stuff for social media.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I go, let's just, let's just, he goes, I love it. I was like, yeah, let's just hang out. And it was so cool. It was really fun. Yeah. It was fun. And it let let's just, he goes, I love it. I was like, yeah, let's just hang out. And it was so cool. It was really fun. Yeah. It was fun. And he let me like dictate the whole workout. I had a whole workout planned out.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I'm like, let's just, let's have some fun. Yeah. We did a real fucking workout. Oh yeah. Yeah. It was real. I was sore. Everyone was sore for a week after that.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yeah. We did the Tabatas on the bag at the end. Yeah. It was fun. It was fun. And then The Rock did three minutes in the cold plunge. First time he had ever been in a cold plunge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Which is very impressive. Yeah. It was my first time. I was like, get me out of here. Like, what the fuck? And I did three minutes, 10 seconds, only because I knew I could do longer than The Rock in a sauna and have bragging rights in the sauna
Starting point is 00:45:19 for 20 minutes. You got to be in the sauna with Brian Simpson. He's always looking for a way to get out. Oh, I forgot my socks your socks you don't need your socks Brian's always got like some fucking new reason to get out of the sauna
Starting point is 00:45:37 he's so funny he's gotta sneeze he is so funny with all that shit he got in the other day with his workout clothes on. I go, you're going to sit in the sauna with your clothes on? He goes, yeah, I should probably take them off. And then he gets out.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And I told him at the end, we were like, you got to stay an extra 30 seconds, bro. Yeah. This is bullshit. You keep leaving. He's a sly dog. He knows exactly what he's doing. I caught him sneaking a cookie the other day out of that eddie bees bag in the green room i've been eating clean i'm at four days no carbs i walk in he's just got
Starting point is 00:46:12 a cookie it's so funny to keep an eye on because i love it you know i like i know my vices right i know i smoked too many cigarettes i know i drink too much coffee whatever they may be right i have a couple drinks every night but he's funny because it's like and i love those people david lucas exactly the same thing you know what i mean i lost 35 pounds every time we were in the green room the other day i go how do you know i go did you have a fucking supermarket scale at your house the The fuck are you talking about? My scale didn't go that high. There's no way you know how much you weigh.
Starting point is 00:46:51 You're not investing in that kind of property, that kind of machinery. Oh, God, it kills me. How much does a regular scale goes to 300 pounds? Right. Right? Yeah, no, we actually- Joey used to talk about that. I can't get on a fucking regular scale, Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:47:04 It's time to lose weight. When he first got on Weight Watchers Joey was like fucking regular scales don't work Yeah, we were doing fat people weigh-ins live on kill Tony at one point And we have a scale now that goes up to four, but it's very hard to find it very Yes, they're like rare and that ain't gonna work either right like what Ralphie Megan got on it, right? Yeah, someone's bigger than that you need like a supermarket scale. Yeah, they put sides of beef on shit Yeah, did you see those there's like these five or four fitness influencers that are Like not fitness influencers body positive influencers that are telling people like, you know, you can be as fat as you want.
Starting point is 00:47:46 They're all dead. They all died. Like within Blair, Blair White has here, I'll send it to you, Jamie. Blair White has this clip. It's fucking, it's, it's mean, but it's also hilarious because it's just like, oh God, like, yeah, it's not good to be that big kids. Just not like no matter what anybody tells you, if you have a fat doctor, no matter who it is, that's just a massive strain on your body that you really don't need.
Starting point is 00:48:12 You shouldn't have. It's not something that's normal. It's something that's insane. It's something that's only existed with human beings over the last, you know, 50, 60 years. People were never that big. Jesus Christ. I was at a Starbucks at the airport this weekend in Florida. And one of the baristas was double masked.
Starting point is 00:48:30 And I could just see the top of her head because she was like behind the espresso machine. And it looked like a thick head. And then she, and I'm like, because, you know, I'm intrigued by the entire thing. I see a double mask. I'm like, what's going on here? Then she moved away for a second to go grab another cup, and she was huge, hugely, massively obese. And I'm like, oh, okay. All right, so.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Did you find it? Yeah, there it is. Thank you. Double mask, but unhealthy as fuck. But the Instagram one is funny because it's like, he's dead. She's dead. They're dead. I'm trying to find it. I swore I saved it.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I love that you can save things on Instagram because Tom Segura and I have this thing we do every day. We send each other the worst shit we find. It's a real problem because neither one of us is going to tap out. Everyone is trying to find the most fucked up things. Instagram is – they're showing you some of the most fucking insane things.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Oh, yeah. They're showing you so many insane things. Oh, I love it. Murders, car accidents, people getting crushed at construction sites. Like, God damn. Yeah. There's so much. Here it is.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I found it, Jamie. They are. They're on a whole new level. But I don't understand how it's getting through. Like, they must know that all that stuff is being shared, but they must also know that they're getting so many clicks from that, that they have to
Starting point is 00:50:10 allow it to stay on. They have to. They must know. It's being shared like crazy. Tom and I are like, every day, dude. Yeah, me and Adam Eget, me and Yoni, I have a ton of them. Shane. Shane's the fun one anything
Starting point is 00:50:26 he's dead join me on my fat positive radio show which didn't last long because she died just because i'm fat that doesn't invalidate the things that i said she died you ready to get supersized she died too Yeah that's it He's dead Jesus Christ It's real people need to see that It's one of the worst things Being overweight is one of the worst things for your health
Starting point is 00:50:57 It's a constant tax on your body If we're all born with the same size heart And you have to lug around all that shit And other people don't, it's pretty blatant. Also, if you lose the weight, you'll have amazing leg muscles.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I was saying that to Stavros and he showed me his calves. Stavros' calves are like watermelons. Yeah. They're giant. He's got calves on those cows. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:18 He's a big boy. Yeah. He's a big fella. Sweating. If you're carrying around that much extra weight, like, boy, if you lost the weight, you'd be so fit.
Starting point is 00:51:27 You'd be so strong. You'd get into Muay Thai, be fucking people up. He's into pad thai. You can't help yourself. It's always there. That's so quick. Oh, man. We just mass taped a bunch of episodes of Kill Tony
Starting point is 00:51:41 so that we could take a few weeks off after these arenas and so I'm in like yeah zip zip zip yeah full-on oh yeah you do two last night yeah two last night and to the night before some epic moments perhaps one of the greatest and this is me tooting my own horn but one of my greatest interviews ever with a big trans uh comedian like a hefty looks like a hundred percent like just like a big woman steps up and goes hey so uh here we go and like the whole room has its attention where at first we were funny um very new very very very new but i will say this is rolled with everything it's it's an epic interview because i'm going pretty hard because she's laughing at everything and i find it to be
Starting point is 00:52:33 like okay we have this and everybody wanted it and everybody needed it and it makes her look good and everyone won but there was a part where i literally go, so I gotta ask, and this might be disrespectful, what direction are we going here? What did you start as and what are you going for? I know you're trans, but like, I don't even know. Is this boy to girl, girl to boy? Oh man, and she's laughing too.
Starting point is 00:52:58 She knows what's up. I'm sure you're aware of this, but that lady got arrested who was on your show saying that she stormed the Capitol. Yeah. The feds came and got her. They're like, oh, yeah? I found out about this last night in the middle of a show, but didn't even have time to think about it or read the articles.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Yeah, they're going hard after people that went into the Capitol. Red Band mentioned that it may have been because of our show. It is because of your show. Really? Yes. Yeah, that's how the feds are watching the show oh my shout out to the fbi i swear to god i wasn't there i wouldn't go there i'm not into that it's not my thing damn that's wild oh man i got her in well she got her in
Starting point is 00:53:40 trouble yeah it's um not good to brag about breaking into the fucking capital um i was first wave upstairs she shouted the microphone january 6th video footage shows i took a little pepper spray i didn't think i'd ever be sprayed by cops in my own country i support the police arrest warrant states the fbi confirmed the couple's identity through cell phone and credit card records flight and hotel bookings and physical physical surveillance of their Santa Ynez home. They failed their homes. In June, Jones defended her actions while speaking at a comedy show in Austin. Jones said she did not do anything that she thought was illegal.
Starting point is 00:54:17 She only entered a public section of the building, not a private office or any other restricted area. I've been to the Capitol multiple times. There's never been any reason not to go in Well, that's just that's just dumb That's just being dumb if you see a mob storming into the Capitol like Don't go in there Don't go in there because didn't they arrest people that didn't go in I think so. Yeah Well, they put that one dude in jail from InfoWars. What is his name? Owen?
Starting point is 00:54:46 Owen, I forget how to pronounce his last name. But I think he went to jail for like seven months. And he was never even there. What did he go to jail for? Two months. Was he sentenced for seven months? Or was it 70 days? The prosecutors said he, quote, helped create by spewing violent rhetoric
Starting point is 00:55:04 and spreading baseless claims of election fraud to hundreds of thousands of viewers. Wow. Plead guilty to illegally entering a restricted area. What area is that? So did he go into the Capitol? Says he didn't enter the Capitol, but he let them march to the building and led rioters and chants. Yeah. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:55:21 led rioters and chants. Yeah. Hmm. He's only said this. He's among only a few people charged in the riot who neither went inside the building nor were accused of engaging in violence or destruction. Here's where he fucked up. Should have joined the FBI first. If he joined the FBI and then did that, they'd be like, good job.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Got everybody to go in there. Crazy. I don't know what's going to happen next. The reason why I didn't get to read about that article is because when I checked the news right before bed after a long night last night, all I could see was that Colorado voted to have Trump off the ballot. There's so much wild shit going on. That there, and I rarely am like, oh, no, with the news. But that one there scares me.
Starting point is 00:56:06 The guy that did Ex Machina just did a new movie called Civil War. That's coming out. That's exactly what I pictured. Have you seen the trailer? Let's play the trailer because it looks dope. And that Ex Machina guy, what is his name, Jamie? Alex Garland. He's the shit.
Starting point is 00:56:21 That Ex Machina is one of my all-time favorite movies. That movie gives me the creeps every time I watch it yeah because I'm like if I was that guy and that robot was talking to me I get seduced too yeah she's so hot she's so hot and she knows that a bullet strings the White House issued warnings to the Western forces as well as the Florida Alliance the three-term president assures the uprising will be dealt with swiftly. Let me know if you want to try anything. I'm just aware there's like a pretty huge civil war going on all across America.
Starting point is 00:56:52 We just try to stay out with what we see on the news. Seems like it's for the best. Citizens of America, the so-called Western forces of Texas and California, have suffered a very great defeat at the hands of the United States military. Mr. President, do you regret the use of airstrikes against American citizens? We're moving to DC today. We need to go down there. They shoot journalists on sight in the Capitol.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Every instinct in me says this is death. What if? Every time I survived the war zone, I thought I was sending a warning home. Don't do this. But here we are. There's some kind of misunderstanding here. What?
Starting point is 00:57:51 We're American, okay? Okay. What kind of American are you? You don't know? Oh, boy. Yeah, bro. This can really happen. You tell me that dude who said, what kind of American are you?
Starting point is 00:58:20 You tell me he doesn't have a Trump flag on his truck? What are you doing? Those are the people with the guns. you're picking a fight with them if you really think if they really think rather that you're trying to steal the government they really think you're trying to subvert democracy yeah by using the 14th amendment which is insurrection which i believe check this make sure this is correct. I believe they created that amendment because of the Civil War. And I believe they created that amendment to keep people that fought against the Union Army from holding elected office. I'm pretty sure that's what it was. Former officers of the Confederate Army.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I think anybody who was in the Confederate Army. I think anybody who was in the insurrection. Like say if you, I think even if you were a soldier i think it was to stop that yeah which is why the meanwhile it's a it's a legal term again i don't know if you know this but i'm not a legal scholar right all right um i think the term is very specific, like what it means. So Trump has neither been indicted nor convicted for insurrection. Right. But if you're pulling him off the ballot for insurrection, that seems crazy. And again, it's like, of course, every other state with a Democratic or liberal-leaning Supreme Court is going to follow this lead. They don't want to be behind Colorado.
Starting point is 00:59:48 They're going to go, we have to show America that we're more woke than, we're more aware than Colorado. Let's do this. If that happens, that's a very scary thing. That's very scary. Because regardless of what you think about Trump as a personality and this air quotes threat to democracy, what is democracy if it's not people having the ability to choose an elected leader? What is democracy? Like what are you saying?
Starting point is 01:00:21 Threat to what? If you are literally subverting democracy because you think someone's a threat to democracy you're a threat to democracy 100 just by what you're doing yeah you just because people believe that this one person is absolutely that's the whole reason why people have elections one case one group has to make a case that they would be better leaders and they have a better plan they have a better plan. They have a better path forward for America. If you think they're wrong, the whole idea of democracy is you're supposed to have a better case. That's what the debates
Starting point is 01:00:56 are for. That's what the campaign trail is for. And when they stand in front of the people and they tell the people, when I become president, I will fix this and I will fix that. And everybody goes, yay. That's what they're doing. Now, if you're saying that they can't do that, that's a threat to democracy. If you're saying they can't state their case, if you're saying they literally can't be on the ballot. Right. Because it's insane.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Yeah. And four out of seven chose that. Four said yes, three said no. It's crazy. Is that correct? Three or two? Three said yes, two said no? It was four to three.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Four to three. So four said yes, three said no. Check an article the BBC put out. What does it say? For now, this only is for the state's primary election. It's going to probably be held up in court for appeals past the deadline, which is January 4th. So it might not matter. Why would it not matter?
Starting point is 01:01:55 Because it wouldn't affect his ability to be on the primary ballot, according to what this is saying. If it doesn't go in effect until January 4th and then it's held up in court because of an appeal, then they can't block him from being on that ballot. It's also not for the presidential ballot, which would be in November. It's one thing if there was no allegations of criminal activity from the current president. If the current president is someone like Barack Obama,
Starting point is 01:02:22 who is a way better president by everyone's account, the way he holds, whether or not you believe his policies, whether or not you think that he did a good job with whatever, with drone attacks and, you know, whistleblowers, all the things that he said he was going to do that he didn't do. Put that aside, just as a spokesperson, just as a representative of the country, a guy smarter than us, who's out there, speaks measured and calm, a real statesman. But you don't even have that. You got this guy who's- Dead shell of an old seashell.
Starting point is 01:02:58 And on top of that, there's a bunch of shit that he's involved with that looks super sketchy. A bunch. Oh, yeah. A bunch of things. Oh, with that looks super sketchy a bunch oh yeah a bunch of things oh yeah there's so many business dealings the money that we've given to ukraine is just crazy and i we weren't really hearing of ukraine until before he was president his son's dealings with ukraine and then all this stuff with uk Ukraine starts happening and they get hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars? I think it's over a hundred billion, but here's a question because someone was, they were just talking about this today. Are we really funding a portion of their government? Are we funding our, as American taxpayers, I think what this person was saying was
Starting point is 01:03:44 that we are funding a percentage of their schools, their elected officials. We're funding a certain percentage of that, too. We're keeping their government afloat. Seems like it. I mean, who wouldn't move some money from that account into other accounts? No, but I think that's part of the deal. That's like above board. Forget about what's happening where money's getting siphiphoned off so it's like known that we're funding
Starting point is 01:04:08 their government I think so that's what this person was saying I don't know if it's correct that's why Jamie's gotta get on it but it's um one of those things where it's like wait a minute when does this end is this another one of them 20-year deals is another this another one of those Afghanistan deals? Have you ever seen the breakdown of the amount of money that we spent in Ukraine and what that could have done for America? It's insane. It could have given everyone in Maui, like everyone who lost their home,
Starting point is 01:04:40 some insane amount of money, rebuilt Maui many times over. It could have fixed all of our infrastructure. It could have secured the wall. It could have, there's like so much money that have gone into education, homelessness, all these different problems that we have in America that are like key problems that keep coming up over and over and over again. It makes you wonder. It really does. Because if they really did spend a hundred and whatever billion dollars in Ukraine that they could have spent in America, what if someone did that? What if someone said, yeah, I know this is going to raise taxes. I know
Starting point is 01:05:23 this is going to raise inflation. But if we spend this money in America and we fix all these problems, the next generation coming up, we've showed statistically we will be 20 percent better off. We'll have 20 percent less crime. We'll have 20 percent less incarcerations. They could come up with some number that they could show you. Everybody would be kind of like, yeah, taxes are more, but this is a real plan to actually rebuild America. And there's discussions of it on the news every day. There's people like, fuck rebuilding America. What we need to do is this and that and that and this and green energy and all this shit.
Starting point is 01:06:00 If there was that and this was our dispute, how much better would the world be? Yeah. It would take a businessman who's like anti-war and could bring like peace to the Middle East and have all the other crazy world leaders in check. Yeah. Do you see Vivek Ramaswamy? You know who that could be? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Van Jones. Oh, yeah. Listen to his speech was saying that it's like he's going to be around 50 years longer than Trump. And so he does a speech. He goes, Van Jones, shut the fuck up. Oh, yeah. Oh, boy. And when I saw that, I'm like, more of this, dude.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Trump opened up the door to that kind of shit. He really did. When there was no politicians before Trump that you ever even heard swear. Yeah. When Trump was talking about China, he goes, you can say, you know, we want to negotiate, we want to do this, or you can say, listen, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:06:56 People are like, yes, talk like a real person. Yes. Talk like a real person. Yeah. That's what the world is missing, people talking like real people. Right. Obama was such a good politician such a good people speaker that it kind he kind of like
Starting point is 01:07:14 beat the video game now we need a new video game you know what i mean and trump was that a real human have you seen uh where they face swapped that lady who's the White House press secretary with Obama? No. It's when she's talking about how there is no evidence at all that Obama is secretly running the government. It's simply not true. And it's her face swap with Obama. Let me see if I can find it. I'm pretty sure I saved it. I'm really good at saving all these stupid posts I find every day. This is why I can't be on this phone. This phone has a- I didn't even know you could do that.
Starting point is 01:07:53 I go a long way because I'm like an old man on Instagram. So I mail them to myself. That works too. But you can have little folders. Like I have little folders. I've had folders for conspiracies. Is that what that like bookmark looking thing is? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Okay. Yeah, you click that. Where is it? What do I have it under? I think I have it under government. I have too many categories. I have disasters. The disasters one is insane. There's so many disasters that you can find on the internet now
Starting point is 01:08:29 yeah i'm trying to find i like uh i think it's thieves getting fucked or robbers getting fucked where people try to steal things and they run into like a cashier with a gun oh those are always fun yeah i have an entire folder dedicated to kamala harris oh yeah all the most ridiculous shit she says everything she can't even she can't do anything has she ever said anything not crazy oh this is hysterical yeah there oh you found it jamie thank you so please i mean obama be the hidden puppet master for this administration but there's no evidence there's wait wait there's no evidence there's no evidence that obama is joe's puppet master for this administration, but there's no evidence. Wait, wait, there's no evidence. There's no evidence that Obama is Joe's puppet master.
Starting point is 01:09:09 There's none. Absolutely none. None. And that is just a fact. You can't say that it looks like my hair is the dirty mop the janitor is looking for. You can't say that it looks like I lazily slapped on some of Big Mike's lipstick and horrific. AI. That's wild.
Starting point is 01:09:30 AI is insane. I mean, we are going to have no idea what's real or what's fake within a couple of years. Yeah. We don't know. We just don't know. Right. You could have everything from people crying about a crime that never committed. Like you could have like a disaster that's fake and a bunch of fake people crying about that disaster and telling their story of what happened. And they're not even real people.
Starting point is 01:09:57 It's all CGI. You're going to be able to – like there's no telling. Committing crimes, natural disasters right you're never going to know speaking of natural disasters do you see that um video uh they got a volcano camera that's pointed at this camera in iceland and they caught it the moment the volcano erupted oh it's wild iceland has some volcano sun and they pop They popped a few years back Remember the flights were fucked up And no one could fly
Starting point is 01:10:30 You remember that? In Iceland? Yeah When the problem is When they eject all that stuff Into the atmosphere You can't see Right
Starting point is 01:10:40 So it takes like a long time For that stuff to go down Where people can fly Watch this, watch this watch this it's really cool the volcano yeah boom look at that that's it poppin isn't that amazing Wow they caught the moment it blew so it's spraying and the video of it going down the mountainside this is the video of it going down the mountainside. How amazing is that, man? That's crazy. The literal blood of the earth pouring out of a fucking staph infection. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Look at that. Isn't that incredible? Unbelievable. That's how continents are made, kids. Wow. That's how Hawaii got made. These dudes are just chilling. It goes off every couple of years.
Starting point is 01:11:23 So what happened was that volcano went off and there was a Rolling Stone reporter that was embedded, I think it was in Iraq, and they got too comfortable with this dude being around and they start, because he was there, he was stuck because he couldn't fly out. So he was there a lot longer than he was supposed to be. And he reported a bunch of shit that they had said about Obama.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Is that Mount St. Helens? Oh, that's the other one? It's the 2010 eruption. Yeah, so this was when it happened. Wow. I don't know how to say that. What was the guy's name? The reporter, Michael?
Starting point is 01:11:57 Hastings. Hastings. So he reported that this general was being very dismissive of Obama and insulting Obama. And he printed it in the Rolling Stone. And so this general had to resign. And so when this general resigned, this guy Hastings was fucked. He's fucked. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:19 And he starts saying, hey, I think people are following me. I think people are trying to kill me. He was still in Iraq at the time? No, no, no. He came back to America. So he was saying that, you know. And then his car goes 125 miles an hour on Sunset Boulevard right into a tree. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:40 He had an electric car, right? No. There was no electric cars back then. Or it was. McChrystal's exit. Yeah, volcanic intervention. So the volcano blew up and this guy got stuck there. It says the runaway general is the title of this story.
Starting point is 01:13:01 And so this guy, Michael Hastings, this is like the conspiracy theory. Yeah. Because his car goes 125 miles an hour right into a tree boom and blows up the engine was like it wasn't like a regular accident like it was a big one like it was a big accident and either he did it on purpose like he was trying to kill himself like this is it is a video of it i mean this dude this dude is fucking flying down the street. Tony, for your reference, it's in LA off La Brea. Headed down La Brea, off of Santa Monica. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Look how fast he's going. Boom. He hit one of those giant palm trees. It's in the middle of the road there. And look at that explosion. It wasn't a self- I thought it was on Sunset. No, no, he was going down La Brea South, I believe.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Okay. It wasn't a self-driving car? No, no, no, no, no, no. But it was on Sunset. No, no, he was going down La Brea South, I believe. Okay. It wasn't a self-driving car? No, no, no, no, no, no. But it was a Mercedes. 2010, they didn't have them then. No, but what they did have is technology that would allow... They had computers in cars back then. And so the question was, do we have the technology to take over someone's car?
Starting point is 01:14:03 All you'd have to do is just make it accelerate. You wouldn't necessarily have to point it towards a tree oh yeah you just have it go 120 miles an hour if you don't care about the hits yeah if you don't care about the other people which say it's the middle of the night which I think this was right yeah you just hit it yeah and then all of a sudden this guy can't slow his car down it's impossible so the car that it takes over the engine takes over the engine. You don't have to be able to steer it. You don't have to have self-steering technology.
Starting point is 01:14:30 You just have to control the accelerator. Oh, yeah. And if you have a computer, if the car is run by a computer, was this a 2010 car? What kind of car was it? I believe it was a... I'll have to check now. Hold on. I want to say it was a Mercedes.
Starting point is 01:14:43 I know it was a Mercedes, but I don't know the actual year the car was. Listen, they had that ability back then. They had the ability to do that to the enemy. If you're in Afghanistan or whatever and you want to make someone's car, you could rig it like that. I'm sure they could do that. Yeah. I mean, if there's a computer in the car, 2010 is not that long ago. Seems like it is. 13 years. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if there's a computer in the car, 2010 is not that long ago. Seems like it is.
Starting point is 01:15:06 13 years. Yeah. 13 years ago is crazy to think that technology has moved so far from 13 years ago. Like if it was today, you would say 100% they could do that. Yeah. But I think they could do that 13 years ago. And so that was the big conspiracy theory that they whacked this dude because he got McChrystal fired. Damn. Which theystal fired. Damn.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Which they probably did. Yeah. They can. And the more we find out, the more it seems like that stuff happens quite a bit. And then there was some talk about his blood work. They did blood work on Hastings after he's dead and he tested positive for amphetamines.
Starting point is 01:15:42 But the dirty secret about journalists is a lot of them are on Adderall. A lot of them. It's how they make deadlines. For the guys that I know that have taken it, they've been pretty forthcoming about it and said, it's a life changer. It's just like, I get so much shit done. Of course, you're on meth.
Starting point is 01:16:02 You're on amphetamines. So they were saying that he was on amphetamines. He was just cranked out of his mind, and he did that on purpose, which is a possibility. You fucking never know. Sometimes if people think the government's trying to kill him, maybe they crack under pressure. Yeah. And they just fucking, I can't take this anymore. I'm just going to drive into a tree.
Starting point is 01:16:20 That's a weird way to kill yourself. It is, but it's not outside the realm of possibility. But also, if you wanted to have a juicy conspiracy narrative, you wanted to go all Sam Tripoli on that. Yeah. Very suspicious. Yeah, it's very suspicious. Especially since he could have killed himself going full Joe versus the volcano, right?
Starting point is 01:16:42 That would have been the classy way to do it when he had a chance. Well, he wasn't near the volcano. Right. Yeah, if he wanted to take a flight over, yeah, he can't. Yeah, but he wasn't, he didn't know that they were going to come for him after that.
Starting point is 01:16:52 But that's what they do in that world. They try to take things down. You know, if you're a journalist and you're embedded with these guys and they say something juicy, you can take them down with this juicy thing. This is just what you do. Whether or not it's good for the country or not.
Starting point is 01:17:07 And that guy was beloved. Apparently he was just a great general. And now all of a sudden he's not a general anymore because of a reporter. And who are his people? The people that are like the professional killers of the world that are legally allowed to kill people? And secretly. Yeah. Guess what, fuckface? You kill people. And secretly. Yeah. Guess what, fuckface?
Starting point is 01:17:26 Yeah. You just made a big mistake. Yeah. Like, I wish I was his friend. I know that's what your job is, but you can make a juicy article just about how hard it is over there and how crazy it is over there. Wouldn't that be better? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Wouldn't it be better to, like, instead of, like, some backhanded shit that he's saying to the troops, which they all believe anyway. Like, what do you care? Yeah. Don't report that, dude. You're going to get him in trouble. Why would you get that guy in trouble? Man. It's just such a dangerous game you're playing.
Starting point is 01:17:55 It is wild. It makes me worry about, you know, I mean, Trump is such a threat, supposedly, to the military that wants to do things, and he wants to bring them back, which he's proven time and time again. And, like, I don't know. There's a fucking hilarious video of Rosie O'Donnell. She put up, like, she was watching the UFC. She goes, I'm watching the UFC, and then Trump comes on and ruins it.
Starting point is 01:18:25 Come on, UFC. You got to do better comes on and ruins it. Come on, UFC. You got to do better. She's so bad. Thank you, Rosie. She's so bad. Everyone at the UFC cares about your opinion. It's not just having that opinion, which is like, I get it, because he said a lot of fucked up things about Rosie. He ruined her.
Starting point is 01:18:39 She's gone because of him. When Megyn Kelly was saying that you've said all these disparaging things about not all women, just Rosie O'Donnell. Boom. Boom. She was done. It's like. Yeah. Because of him. When Megyn Kelly was saying that you've said all these disparaging things about, not all women, just Rosie O'Donnell. Boom. Boom. She was done. It's like a comic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:49 I mean, it's like literally a Kill Tony guest. Yeah. But have you found the video of her saying it? Yeah, yeah. Well, I haven't listened to it. I think it's this one. Yeah, that's it. That's it.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Ugh, look at her. I like Rosie. All you racist MAGA people. No, no, this isn't it. He's killing coverage. No, that's not it. That's not it. That's it. Ugh, look at her. I like Rosie. All you racist MAGA people. No, no, this isn't it. He's killing Cov- No, that's not it. It's- It's-
Starting point is 01:19:10 It's for that. So, maybe she deleted it or something. She might have deleted it. She might have deleted it. That was a hard one, man. Because Leon, at the end of the fight, when he was talking about his dad, he was almost crying when he was talking about him, you know, taking his father's murder and turning it into entertainment. And his voice was cracking.
Starting point is 01:19:28 I was like, oh, shit, don't make me cry, Leon. Yeah. Yeah. Trump just arrived at the UFC 296 because he loves Colby Covington. Donald Trump's the biggest. It was the UFC. Do better. I love that.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Why did they all look alike? Why do all these... Why does she look exactly like Keith Olbermann? She doesn't. Keith Olbermann's way more insane than her. He's insane. Did you see Keith Olbermann went after Riley Gaines? Who's Riley Gaines?
Starting point is 01:19:59 Riley Gaines is that lady that lost to Leah Thomas. The one who... Yeah. Oh, wow. So she's the real like winner, female winner. Yeah. And this male competes as a female and beats her. And so Keith Oberman said some ridiculous shit about she doesn't have any athletic accomplishments.
Starting point is 01:20:18 And so she makes a video in response showing all the awards that she's won. She's like a serious fucking accomplished athlete. She's an amazing athlete. But for this insane fuck to say this, but you gotta see the video because it's pretty amazing. He used to be so long ago but he was part of that essential
Starting point is 01:20:40 sports center crew, the glory days of ESPN. Him, Stuart was great Dan Patrick it was a dream team and I would love to know what fucking soup he's been eating or what is in his diet oh he's vegan oh is he yeah ah yeah there's clearly sometimes there's things where it's like sometimes there's just things where it's like don't you see don't you see yeah duh you know a big one and i know we're switching subjects here but a big one that i saw two days ago and i didn't even send it to you because i'm like i can't even i have to talk with you about this is canada's overall life expectancy yes that might be the craziest statistic in the world
Starting point is 01:21:32 right now you've seen this right yes since 1930 of course it goes this way this way this way this way because you fucking live longer because fucking technology and medicine and then 2020 levels and then it starts to go down it's down two and a half years since 2020 which is unheard of yeah unprecedented what could that possibly be from i don't know tony weird so strange it's not like there was a gigantic medical intervention that was forced upon the population during that time period again and again and booster and booster and booster And you know that say or you're a conspiracy theorist. Yes, people are they're in a fucking trance because being on the side of reality and facts is
Starting point is 01:22:22 So against the narrative that the Liberals were correct that they're willing to ignore Excess deaths that were willing to ignore an increase in all cause mortality. That's shocking. Yeah. They're willing to ignore it. And they're the trust the science people, but only when it leans to their favor. The science says there's something terrible that happened. I stumbled into this group of people talking on Twitter about, I'm always going to call it Twitter. I try to X for a while.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Yeah, it's impossible. What am I doing? Am I tweeting or am I X-ing? What am I doing? It doesn't make any sense. But there was a bunch of people that were talking about masking and boosting. And this is the reason why,
Starting point is 01:22:58 even though they've got COVID five times, every time they get it, it's fairly mild. Last time I was only sick for a week. I'm like, what are you talking about? They're not reading the news at all. I think it's baby boomers. You know, Robert F. Kennedy was talking about that. Bobby Kennedy Jr. was talking about that. He was saying baby, he was talking to Patrick Bet-David. He was saying that baby boomers are the ones who believe all the bad things about him because they get their news only from TV. We know a Texan.
Starting point is 01:23:28 We know a guy. We know a guy. Boy, I get him all the time now. Oh, me too. Yeah, we corner him now with facts. Well, that one seems like a conspiracy. That one seems like a conspiracy. Is that true?
Starting point is 01:23:44 Yeah, this is. Did you know that we're gonna turn him it's gonna be a glorious day when he comes in like in yeah one day in the center when they just catch him in the right mood it is exactly that by the way call me crazy but i trust the news yeah and it's it's such a slippery dangerous road and it totally is that my mom's 76 and like she listens to me of course everything but some of those things she's like you gotta be kidding me tony you don't really think he's a good president i'm like look but everybody's got money these are there's no war right now you're not seeing any of this and then boom there's biden and fucking a cantaloupe is 23 or whatever but uh what was like oh man uh fuck i just said something i wanted to say and i lost it oh i clicked on this article from cnn yesterday because i still love going to cnn.com just to see what fucking chaos they're pushing
Starting point is 01:24:46 and and sure enough there's a good one on the number two or three spot that says new uh covid strain dominating the northeast and i click on it and i because i'm like okay yeah okay let's see and it's dominating what it's actually doing is it's just a new, obviously the evolution of the strain, and it just jumped the main strain that was above it. It's a natural thing that happens all the time. But because it's the new main strain, which is always changing, right?
Starting point is 01:25:22 The new one is always jumping the old one. Now it's dominating. This new strain is dominating the Northeast, which is just, they're just saying that that's taken over. But the headline doesn't say that, right? The headline looks like, oh, here it comes. Buckle down for the holidays again. It's so interesting that people can't see that these people, even the baby boomers can't see still what's happening. It's a cold now.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Okay. So if it's a cold now, imagine if the news freaked you out every time the cold was going around. Yep. Do you know how nuts that would be? If the news was telling you that you had to get an experimental medical intervention every time the cold came around. Yeah. Even though you keep catching the cold. And the news never tells you, hey, you got to lose weight.
Starting point is 01:26:10 The news never tells you, hey, time to get in shape. Hey, time to start taking vitamins. Hey, time to start sleeping better. Hey. Drink a lot of water. The news doesn't tell you that. It tells you you only have to get chemicals. Chemicals injected into your body.
Starting point is 01:26:24 That's the only way you can fix this. We to get chemicals. Chemicals injected into your body. That's the only way you can fix this. We have to just keep injecting chemicals into our body. It's the only way to get better. And now a commercial from Burger King. Right after that. Brought to you by Pfizer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Yeah, it's wild. But boomers, they grew up with the news. They never really got into the internet unless they get into facebook groups yeah i read another crazy statistic today that uh i think it's like 13 to 35 year olds are off of facebook it was 77 10 years ago down to like 30 today the only dude i know uses facebook's my friend tommy jr and he's 50. I could see why Tommy Jr. would be on Facebook. Tommy's always on Facebook. I don't even have Instagram. I don't even use it.
Starting point is 01:27:12 He's going to come on the podcast. We're going to do a podcast together. Oh, that's going to be great. Yeah. He's one of my longest running friends. We've been friends for 30 years. Yeah. I knew that dude when he was 19 and I was 24 that's when we met he's so
Starting point is 01:27:26 fun to watch play pool just a real uh what at boston slash new yorkers slash connecticut yeah connecticut that's what new york that's what connecticut is you nailed it without nailing it yeah like connecticut really is like boston and new york had a kid yeah it's like half italian half irish whatever it is you know it's like that's what Connecticut is. It's a combination of Boston. He would love the sweatsuit that I'm rocking right now. But Tommy Jr.'s got his own accent. When he comes on the podcast, people are going to go,
Starting point is 01:27:55 oh, shit, that's maybe my best impression is Tommy Jr. Oh, yeah. He's great. Hey, you got any of that good stuff? We smoking? We smoking? What are we doing? Going to We smoking. What are we doing? Gonna hit something?
Starting point is 01:28:06 What are we doing? Yeah. There's a picture I took of Tommy Jr. when we all did a show together in Atlantic City. Remember? And he had, Atlantic City had weed stores. Yeah. And he took a, I think it was like a 250 milligram edible we're eating. See if you can find that photo of Tommy Jr. baked out of his mind.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Look at it. How is it? 300 milligrams? What does it say underneath it? 300. 300 milligrams. Look at him. Dude, don't leave me.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Stay close. Do you mind if we hold hands? I've been friends with that dude forever. Forever and ever. So much fun. Yeah. So fun. That's my boy.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Yeah. And he would have been like a legit top of the food chain pool player if he didn't retire because he realized there was no future in it. If he didn't stop playing all the time. He was one of the best players in the world when he was like 19, 20 years old. He was a killer. But he was like, there's no future. He tells a story about watching this guy Neptune Joe Frady Neptune Joe Frady was a legend in New Jersey Neptune Joe from Neptune Billiards and he had like half his teeth and he had a cigarette in his hand while he was playing and he would play with his mouth open like this
Starting point is 01:29:22 wow he was a killer yeah but he would play like he would like get into this like trance and his like mouth would be open he was i'm watching this guy and i'm sweating out we're playing for like 200 and he doesn't have a fucking pot to piss in or a window to throw out of it i can't win i can't win this guy's a killer and i'm realizing like is this my future what the fuck so he stopped playing pool my favorite when i think of funny things about tommy a big one because you're obviously always commentating you're in the fucking super zone next to the octagon but your homies are flanked to the back right of you and something that always happens you might not even know this actually
Starting point is 01:30:02 but it always happens to him is there'll be a great fight happening and he'll take a picture he likes taking pictures while things happening i don't play these games because i don't want to miss a fucking thing i know how this goes so he'll take a picture and if a knockout happens you can bet the house that he will be posting that picture and have his head down for that moment and just, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like he always misses a fucking head kick or a fucking place goes wild and the lights go up and he doesn't even know what happened.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Also, Tommy can barely see. So when he's looking down at his phone, he's kind of like, is that a T or a W? I gotta post this to Facebook. And it just, bah, the whole place goes wild. Shit. Like, you didn't see it, Tommy? Fuck, bah, the whole place goes wild. Shit. Like, you didn't see it, Tommy? Fuck.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Dude, I was posting important documents. Exactly. He's the man. Every now and then. You could almost know there's going to be a big knockout if Tommy's looking down at his phone. The odds go up tremendously. He's one of the funniest non-comedians that I know. I always love when we go to the East Coast and hang out with him.
Starting point is 01:31:09 But pool players are funny, man. They're outcasts. That's what I loved the most when I was a kid when I went to New York and I started hanging out at this executive billiards place that was near my house. I fucking just loved being around misfits. They were all misfits. I always felt like a misfit man i never felt like i fit in anywhere yeah like with regular people that had regular families and regular jobs
Starting point is 01:31:30 like oh my god what am i gonna talk to you about i want to be around wild people yeah these people are all wild i was having this conversation with ray mysterio jr just the other night it's like pro wrestlers strippers comed, comedians, pool players. Rock stars. Rock stars. Pool players. Yeah. Yeah, fighters.
Starting point is 01:31:49 They're all the most fun people to be with because they just live in this wild lifestyle. Like, how did you figure out to do that? Yeah. How are you doing that? You know, like when you're hanging out with Gordon, like how are you strangling people for a living? Yeah. We're trying to convince him. Me and my buddy Kyle, we're trying to convince him yeah, my buddy Kyle. We're trying to convince him to
Starting point is 01:32:07 Do a jiu-jitsu match blindfolded? Oh, that's hilarious I Think he's I think he wants to do it could be fun It's fun pitching ideas to him because he can dominate humans and he's a lot of his feel mm-hmm a lot of his feel There's certain things stand-up would suck Wrestling would suck you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to anticipate people shooting on you and stuff But he would just like go to the ground immediately Yeah, you know like when he fought Nikki Rod and Abu Dhabi remember he was telling us before the fight what he was gonna Do he was I'm just gonna give him a leg and let him take me down then I'll submit him
Starting point is 01:32:39 Yeah, he just gave him his leg Yeah, but he didn't make it look like he was giving him his legs to Nikki Rod thought that he got his leg No, he made it look like he was giving him his leg. He gave him his leg. Yeah. But he didn't make it look like he was giving him his leg, so Nicky Rod thought that he got his leg. No, he made it look like he was giving him his leg. He gave him his leg. You've seen it? Well, yeah. Find Gordon Ryan versus Nicky Rod. By the way, there's like a feud between those guys.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Yeah. I have zero side. I think Craig Jones is the shit. I love that dude. He's hilarious. Craig Jones is hilarious. You ever follow Craigig jones on instagram he does these uh dick pill ads he does this ad rather for um it's not he does dick pill ads do
Starting point is 01:33:12 but he does an ad for like some testosterone replacement therapy place but the way he doesn't is so fucking funny it's it's all it's like you don't know him you don't know if he's being honest or he's telling the truth or if it's sarcasm. It's just ridiculous. But he's like a comic. He's really fucking funny, man. But see if you can find Gordon Ryan versus Nicky Rod. I thought I was looking for that video too then. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:35 That video we could find too. But that's on his Instagram. But Gordon Ryan versus Nicky Rod. And Nicky Rod is a beast. Like he's a monster to handle, like a real physical freak. So look, here it begins. They start grappling, and Gordon just gives him his leg. Oh, he does.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Yeah, he gave it to him. He gave it to him. Wow. He's like, come on, let's go to the ground. And then Nicky is trying to figure out what to do, and Gordon's like, come on, come on in here. It's pretty quick once he gets a hold of him. Once's like come on come on in here it's pretty quick once he gets a hold of him once he gets a hold of him here it is so he scrambles he scoots in
Starting point is 01:34:12 and he gets inside control once he gets inside control you're in a lot of trouble so he gets his legs nikki got out but nikki's backing out because he knows like he doesn't want a piece of that what do you do? You've got to do jiu-jitsu with the guy. So you're in a real conundrum here. Yeah, well, Nicky Rod's best chances are to take you down and hold you down and pass you. He's got an amazing guard pass. He's a super powerful guy, like a real freak athlete genetically.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Outstanding genes and crazy work ethic and, you know, everything. He's got everything. And then he was also with Donaher forever. So that's where they trained together a bunch. Scoot ahead a little so you can see the submission. So eventually they lock up. So when Nicky gets on top of him and commits to being on top of him, then Gordon can get a hold of that leg.
Starting point is 01:35:04 So he's getting control of Nicky's left leg right now as we speak. He's, like, sneaking deeper and deeper into it. Now he's really locking onto it. Now he's tying it up. Now he's rolling under. Now Nicky's in a lot of trouble. Now this is real bad because he's got a really firm grip on the ankle, and then he laced his legs over.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Now it's the heel hook. He's got to tap. He's got to tap here. That's it. It's getting real close. This is fucking super nasty. And so once he gets the inside heel hook, or this is a regular heel hook, once he gets it, Nicky has to tap.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Wow. Yeah, it's just, there's levels to submissions and Gordon is at the highest level. But there's also levels to like physicality and Nicky's at the highest level. But there's also levels to physicality, and Nicky's at the highest level. And he's getting better at jiu-jitsu. They're a big rivalry right now. But Gordon is just so far ahead of everybody technically and work ethic-wise.
Starting point is 01:35:56 It's fascinating to watch a guy that is only 28 years old that is dominating this insane sport where most guys are going like back and forth back and forth one guy beats one guy another guy beats another guy he's just smushing everybody so fine he was to kill Tony last night again comes so often he's fun his mom was supposed to be at my shows in Florida but his mom's a little dad got sick exactly I mean they just you know I think there's really something to having a great sense of humor and being a great martial artist well that's Craig then because Craig Jones you know everybody calls him like the number two best grappler in the world like behind Gordon but
Starting point is 01:36:38 Gordon's bigger Gordon's on the sauce I don't think I don't think Craig's on the sauce yeah I think it's part of what Craig is always joking around about. He always says that you need the correct... He did this thing where he's like, you need the correct balance between steroids and autism. So I've been taking a bunch of vaccines, trying to get autism. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:37:05 It's funny, man. It's funny. Also, a Stone Cold killer. He's Volkanovski's jiu-jitsu instructor. Oh. Yeah, he's always working with Volkanovski. I don't know why they had a separation, Gordon and him, but it was apparently the whole team, you know, they separated.
Starting point is 01:37:21 The B team and what they call New Wave now. It used to be the Donahue Death Squad. But Gary Tonin and a bunch of guys stayed with Gordon. All those guys are in Austin now, right? Everybody is. Yeah. From both groups. They're both in Austin, which is kind of crazy.
Starting point is 01:37:39 They all moved here together from Puerto Rico, and then they split off into two groups, and they don't talk to each other anymore. Ooh. Yeah. I like it. It's unfortunate. But, you know, it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:37:56 But it's the world of martial artists, like we were saying. Those people, they're fun people. They're people that are doing a wild thing, a very different thing. They're not regular people that are tied down to regular jobs. There's just so much restrictions in the way you think about things, the way you express yourself, the fun you can have, the stuff you can talk about. It's like they're so restricted. Yeah. It's like that's a sucky place to be, man.
Starting point is 01:38:21 You don't want to be in that spot. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Sugar Sean O'Malley never misses an episode of Kill Tony. Oh, he's awesome. Israel Adesanya never misses an episode. It goes on and on and on. Well, also, fighters need something fun to break it.
Starting point is 01:38:37 And, like, regular talk shows are not going to do it for them. They need some wild shit. Yeah. And I think that's the thing that Kill Tony's really tapped into in this weird culture that we have right now where you don't get wild comedy movies anymore. Anytime someone puts out
Starting point is 01:38:54 wild stand-up, they get attacked with a million articles about them being whatever phobic you could think of. It's just, Kill Tony just resonates during that time. It's also like why Protect our parks does so well exactly because we just do it the same way we've always done it yeah just four comics hanging out together getting fucked up drinking beer out of funnels i love it i love it i saw a clip the other day someone sent me of you guys watching the i ain't gay no more
Starting point is 01:39:22 i am delivered shane's like, oh, kill Tony. I love it. Like these bastards. Yeah, we went on this rant about Kanye. Jamie, what were you saying?
Starting point is 01:39:34 You thought that Kanye was going to be on this week because of that? Oh, maybe he'll still show up. No, he's got a new album coming out. He had a crazy rant.
Starting point is 01:39:41 Yeah, Kanye, we were saying that all he needs is one good album and he's back. And this new album, I'm guaranteed, it's going to be a banger. Yeah, Kanye. We were saying that all he needs is one good album and he's back. And this new album, I'm guaranteed, it's going to be a banger.
Starting point is 01:39:49 I'm a Kanye fucking, I'm a, Oh, yeah. I'm just a believer. Oh, yeah. No, you're the biggest Kanye fan alive. Yeah. Yeah, when I told you
Starting point is 01:39:57 I was going to have Kanye on the podcast, you fucking, Oh, yeah. I sent you a, a must listen to playlist. A document, yeah. Yeah. You got to listen to this, start with this album, go to a document. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:06 You got to listen to this. Start with this album. Go to that album. Yeah. People talk shit about how his new stuff, the old Kanye's a thing, but it's like you want them a little crazy. He's the evolution.
Starting point is 01:40:18 So like whatever he does is where the industry is going to be in three to five years. Everybody is so far behind him that everybody younger than him and everybody listening has to catch up years behind because you can't just copy it. Yeah. Well, you're always going to have guys like that. Yeah. Wild pioneers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:41 And they're always at least slightly unhinged. Oh, yeah. He's above and beyond. He is above and beyond. How do you least slightly unhinged oh yeah oh he's above and beyond he is above how do you not be unhinged do you do you want greatness or not right do you want greatness or not oh this next album's crazy no doubt guaranteed no we should debut and he has so much to talk about yeah you know the that freestyle part two from god damn it the one that people don't know whether it's AI or whether it's him Jamie do you know what I'm talking about I listen to it all the time so there's like a it's heavily
Starting point is 01:41:13 debated whether it's actually Kanye or whether it's AI this thing right yeah why is it's new because Kanye hasn't commented on it at all the guy the actual rapper doesn't talk about it it's another rapper he did a duet with yeah it's on spaz boy what's it called the link i clicked is loading slow it's some freestyle part two or something loading slow because probably everybody on planet earth is listening to it right now. But the lyrics are unbelievable. So now, here's the interesting part. It's like Kanye has so much he can talk about now. Interesting. So just to add to this.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Right. I found people talking about it on Reddit from three months ago. Yeah. And there's a link to it. That video has been taken down from a copyright claim from a music label. Interesting. Right. So it might be.
Starting point is 01:42:04 It might be real then. Right. I'm trying to find it. And the lyrics are diabolical. As he's talking about Adidas, he's talking about this, he's talking about that. Ooh. It's powerful.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Are we allowed to play it? I don't know. I mean. We might not be allowed to play it. We might get in trouble. It's so good. and it's hilarious. He's a wild fella. It's funny.
Starting point is 01:42:32 It's profound. It's everything that he is. Is this it? I have to ask Tony. I'm a man of my word. No, this is different. That? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:41 Is that how it starts? No, it's not that fast. This is like a remix or something. Let's hear it, though. After that happened, if it was AI, then there's going to be a bunch of people making copies to steal YouTube views and TikTok views and all sorts of stuff. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:58 But it's not on a... You said it got taken down? It was on a YouTube video. It was taken down. So maybe someone re-uploaded it and they weren't allowed to. That's kind of what I'm saying Right, right, which is of course gonna happen Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 01:43:10 Welcome to the internet. Yeah That's what's so cool about releasing an album now Yes Yeah, he comes say the guy's name right there. Yeah, he comes in in like 20 seconds. I'm going to turn this up on my thing. So this is the first guy He's gonna come in Who is this guy?
Starting point is 01:43:50 What's his name? This is Rundown Spaz Rundown Spaz my balls Pals Fuck all of y'all Hold up, hold up You know it's kinda easy I'm done being preachy I'm a different species, it's easy Yeah, till the devil get
Starting point is 01:44:16 beneath me, all I did was tell the truth and nobody believed me, on a boat getting hit out in the teetly My wife's titties is dee dees They gon' pull my dick on the cover of head out in the tea leave my wife's titties as dds they gonna put my dick on the cover of us weekly make she show my ass crack riding rap chicago gmc black on black easy season black on black easy out the box like a cracker jack mr egomaniac them people trying to pay me back can't say i ain't changed rap real nigga artifact i mix the art with rap i mix gospel We'll be right back. Like a broad strap command See you all kept stealing here Government ain't playing fair
Starting point is 01:45:05 They ain't want a yeah here We got the White House Surrounding niggas everywhere Next year I pull up to the fucking man Gala in my underwear I don't care Used to be a billionaire That's a thousand millionaires
Starting point is 01:45:20 Bank locked up on my money I don't care You can't stop a fucking guy Yeah, 2024 Came in the game Broke down on the doors broke all the locks for what you got for what I wore Foot on the devil's net for the law. I'm done tap dancing. No, it's all no more interviews with the falls Y'all can't even keep score. I pissed on my Grammy awards cuz I don't need no war. Yeah, I don't need your applause Yeah, I told you I was a guy Need a wall. Yeah, I don't need your applause. Yeah, I told you I was a guy luminati took my mind
Starting point is 01:45:53 Luminati took my wife made me wanna take my life, bitch. I threw away my ice and you know, I'll pay that day. Won't yay Oh, where are my dick singing? Adidas fell off cause they ain't got yay ain't got yay try to cancel me but you can't cancel yay if there was no jay there would be no yay you know i'm spazzing why you got so much cap in your cash and even elon know that i'll be gassing yeah so i'm looking on people talking about it on Reddit. There is a discussion if it's real or not, but that sounded pretty real. Sounded pretty real.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Sounds very real. If it's not, AI's got my vote. Right. If it wasn't, that would have to have been a crazy AI experiment that we haven't heard anything that close to it. If AI is that good, I welcome them. I welcome them to create our rap songs. Yeah, I read a lot about it. And what they said was that the inhale,
Starting point is 01:46:47 that's one of Kanye's trademarks in between when he's rapping because he leaves that in. That's what I was catching on to. That would be really hard to fake. Yeah. Yeah, but AI would know that. No, so that wouldn't. I don't think they're not saying an AI made that.
Starting point is 01:47:00 What they're saying how it would have been a fake is the guy who wrote Run Down Spaz, I guess. They're saying, how it would have been a fake, is the guy who wrote Rundown Spaz, I guess, they're saying he would have written that, recorded it, and then used almost like deep faking to just copy Kanye's voice over his voice. Well, they definitely could do that. We just watched that with that lady, the White House press secretary lady with Obama. They 100% could do that. It's tough to do that, though, with AI, I think.
Starting point is 01:47:23 At least this was four months ago when this was made, and this was a guy in his, you know, not somebody at a laboratory. Again, I read a lot about it, and they said that the breath thing in AI is kind of like how they can't do fingers in AI. Do you know how crazy it is to say that four months ago they couldn't do that? Yeah. But now we know they could.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Isn't that wild, Jamie? Like, think about, like, that made sense to all of us. When you said four months ago they couldn't do that yeah but now we know they could isn't that wild jamie like think about like that made sense to all of us when you said four months ago they couldn't do this well oh yeah four months ago at what time in history has there been a timeline where four months ago seems like forever yeah like when someone sends you an article and you look and you go oh it's from may you like dismiss it. This is like five months ago, whatever. Get out of here with that. Oh, this is seven months ago. Oh my God, this is 2022. What are you, reading ancient history to me? And when you say that something could do something
Starting point is 01:48:16 now, like when we're talking about Michael Hastings' car, 2010, could they do that? I think they could do that. Now we know they could do that. Four months ago, if you said, I don't know if they could do that Kanye song like that four months ago, unless they made it in a lab. Now, 100%. Yeah. How many times has Duncan Trussell taken your voice and had you said, say ridiculous things in the green room to us? Oh, yeah. He's hilarious with that. So fast.
Starting point is 01:48:42 It's so funny. And it sounds exactly like me. It sounds exactly like you and you're like praising things that suck. What was the last one he did with you? He's done a bunch of them. He takes people that I don't necessarily like and makes me talk about how much I love them. And about I try to focus on their positive qualities. David Lucas hates that Duncan does that.
Starting point is 01:49:12 He gets scared like there's a ghost in the room. Turn that off. Turn that off. Which is why he made that rap song about David Lucas. Yeah. It's so crazy. Having him around is so important. Oh, man. We have such a great crew. Oh, the squad is Yeah. It's so crazy. Having him around is so important. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:49:27 We have such a great crew. Oh, the squad is crazy. It's so good. When we're all working out together, I'm looking, I'm like, this is so crazy. It's Brian Simpson,
Starting point is 01:49:34 Ahsan, Derek Poston, Shane Gillis. Yep. Matt McCusker, Tim Dillon. So many good guys. Segura,
Starting point is 01:49:43 Christina Pazitsky. There's so many good guys here. Yeah. So many good comics. Holt, Christina Pazitsky. There's so many good guys here. Yeah. So many good comics. Holtzman's a big one. Oh, my God. Having Holtzman around is amazing. And all the big dogs want to come back all the time.
Starting point is 01:49:54 There's people all- How about Howie Mandel the other night? Oh, my God. He has the time of his life here. He's like, I want to do this. I was trying to convince him to be a comic again. Yeah. I go, do you have so much money?
Starting point is 01:50:04 Like, you don't need any more money. If this is what you like like to do this is what you should be doing like when he's with us he's like a little kid oh yeah like this is so fun when he went up on stage he had so much fun oh yeah like he just showed up and i was like do you want to go up you could tell he's like um i don't have to it's okay i'd like you to go up if you'd like to go do you want to go up i was like yeah okay okay you go up after brian brian go up. Do you want to go up? I was like, yeah, okay. You go up after Brian. Brian's up next. And he's just like, oh my God. You can see he gets all giddy. Because you can't buy that. Yeah. And then he comes backstage. He's like, it's so fun.
Starting point is 01:50:34 God, I want to do this again all the time. I saw he was at the Ice House the other day. So maybe he's doing more stand-up now. He's got the itch. We know how to do that. We brought Ron out of retirement. We brought Roseanne out of retirement. Ron's on tour again. When Ron's girlfriend said, come to Ron's retirement party, I go, I ain't going to no bullshit party for something that's never going to happen.
Starting point is 01:50:54 I go, Ron White is not retiring. What are you talking about? He's always like, well, I'll retire, but I'll do your club. I go, Ron, you can do whatever you want, but you're not retiring. Stop saying you're going to retire. You're one of the greatest of all time. You're not retiring. Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 01:51:09 He's so funny. He's better now than he's ever been. Oh, yeah. He's so sharp because he's working with us all the time. He's doing sets all the time. He comes on nights where he doesn't even want to do sets. It's just a home away from home. He needs to be around comedians.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Well, when we had that Christmas party the other night, we were all huddled up in the green room like, this is our safe space. Yeah. This is like, it's a clubhouse. It's like the ultimate clubhouse. Yeah. It's so fun, man. It's the best. They're so silly.
Starting point is 01:51:35 The laughs that we have in that room are insane. The hardness of the laughs. It's so silly. It's so fun. It's so fun. It's so fun. It's so fun. It's just we're so lucky. You know, like I was saying the other day with us working out with The Rock, I was like, is this real life?
Starting point is 01:51:52 Like, what is this? Like, this fun thing that we get to do. Like, we've just engineered this very bizarre life. Yeah. I get to golf with Ron. Golf is like a four- five hour adventure yeah and there's unbelievable quiet moments where you know it's it's times like because it's not like hunting where you have to kind of be quiet yeah so like he could snipe and say something from
Starting point is 01:52:21 a hundred yards away great shot if your shit goes in the woods or whatever, just whatever. And with his twang, I'm horrible at impressions, but he has the funniest execution. And that's the thing about that green room when I'm talking about how hard we laugh. Like you have protect our parks
Starting point is 01:52:37 is one fifth of the room at any given point. And we're all together. So it's like a super Royal rumble ultra podcast and he'll just snipe with a word yep there's something like that to something like it's just chaos yeah it's we're very fortunate man yeah i feel very fortunate really do almost too fortunate like while it's happening i'm like god we're so lucky like how did this happen because when we thought about doing this place when you and i who were like the first of the pioneers yeah out here when we were talking about doing this place like we all had this idea what it was going to be but we didn't think it was going to work out that well we didn't think it was going to be perfect
Starting point is 01:53:17 not that fast i thought it would be perfect but we were really we really had it at Vulcan. The story starts at that crazy cement fucking paper mache, no walls on the stalls. I don't know if you ever went to one of the public restrooms there. Oh, I did. Oh, they were disgusting. Half of them didn't flush. There was a moment where Brian Simpson was high as fuck, and he looked at me and he goes,
Starting point is 01:53:43 yo, dawg, you ever look at the cords that hold up those speakers? I go, what? He goes, you know how heavy those speakers are? I go, no, how heavy are those speakers? He goes, oh, hundreds of pounds. I go, really? He goes, yeah. He goes, look at that cord.
Starting point is 01:53:55 He goes, there's two little skinny ass strands. He goes, they got no backup. One of those breaks, everybody dies. I was like, Jesus Christ, Nick. What the fuck? I told Nick, have you ever looked at those cords? Yeah. Brian had me totally convinced these giant speakers
Starting point is 01:54:09 are gonna fall on the people in the front row. Yeah, so many memories from that place. That place is wild. That was the place where we decided that we were gonna open a club. When Ron White grabbed me by my shoulders. Whatever the fuck we have to do, we're doing this. You gotta open up a club. That was over three years ago. When Ron White grabbed me by my shoulders, whatever the fuck we have to do, we're doing this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:25 You got to open up a club. Yeah. I was like, okay. That was over three years ago. Yeah. Three years and a month or two ago. Yeah, I was like, let's do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:32 It was so wild to be doing shows indoors back then. I just found a stash of masks the other day in my truck. They were in my little side thing. I didn't know they were in there. I pulled out these fucking stupid surgical masks. I'm like, God. It's like I'm trying to forget this. It's like a time where the world went insane.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Yep. That's exactly how I feel when I see one. They'll pop up near fucking socks or whatever, crazy laundry or shit. I was watching a video on YouTube of a car review, and these guys were in this car, and they both had masks'm like nope i don't want to see it yeah like i don't want to see this i don't i don't want to this is like it's going to annoy me so much right these guys are doing this stupid thing that everybody had to do well that's what i'm saying at the airports i notice especially on the insides of airports people do it and like like i was like i glazed over earlier when i saw a barista wearing two masks it's almost like this sounds terrible but it's like seeing a wild animal in the wild because i'm like trying
Starting point is 01:55:31 to study the situation like what are they thinking are they sick are they super sick i'm like waiting for them to cough or breathe heavy or something because you have to think to yourself like are you paying any attention to anything and it's also an anxiety thing and some people like the mask that some people actually liked wearing a mask because at least part of them was covered like they didn't have to expose part of their expressions to you like people that were socially awkward maybe they like being behind a mask you know one thing i noticed uh at a building i used to live in one of the guys that worked that you'd see a lot around the building um always wore the mask and i'm like that's so interesting i wonder if he has a pre-existing condition because he doesn't seem his attitude
Starting point is 01:56:23 and his energy wasn't a mask wearing energy if that makes sense i don't know i it's i don't know but that's what i felt and then i saw him without the mask and he had a weird uh like a a uh what's the thing where you cuss sometimes yeah he had like Tourette's but just with his's. Yeah, he had like Tourette's, but just with his face, whatever that is, where it was like a, he would do like a. Yeah, little tics. Yeah, tics. He had face tics. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:50 And then I realized, oh, his life is just a little bit easier. He feels more normal behind the mask. Sure. Because you don't see it if he's wearing it. Yeah. And I think some people are hiding behind it. They like to hide behind it. It makes them feel better.
Starting point is 01:57:03 And then there's also this thing where like some some people had a very high level of anxiety already. Yeah. And they only get their information in little echo chambers, which I think we're all guilty of to some extent. But they get their information from these echo chambers and they really believe everything the mainstream news says. And especially when it's ideologically connected. That's what's so crazy it's like taking a vaccine taking a medicine somehow or another became ideologically connected with you being a progressive well-educated open-minded liberal whereas being skeptical
Starting point is 01:57:39 of the companies that have the biggest fucking criminal fines in medical history like giant crazy fines for lying like those guys you should trust and if you don't trust them well you must be some trumper anti-vaxxer right some fool yeah who's taking veterinary medicine. Oh, you fool. Right. And to see that be a dividing narrative was very enlightening because to me, you know, cause I was caught up in the middle of it all. I was like, Oh, it's an ideology thing. It's a thing that humans do where you just believe a collected group of ideas that matches with your social circle, maybe your economic circle, maybe the, you know, the education circle, the people that you know that are all like operating in your world. And you all just believe it wholesale without investigating it. And if you
Starting point is 01:58:38 get critical of it at all, you get attacked. So you back off that. You don't want that. I don't know how that happened. I don't know if that was a natural course of events or if that was like socially engineered. If it was socially engineered, my God, it's brilliant. It's brilliant. Like if that was like, if you want to go full Alex Jones and say that was like a test run for like a real pandemic to see how people would react and how quickly they'd roll over, you would go, wow, that was shocking. Because people that I really respected, that were really intelligent people were terrified of discussing the possibility that maybe you're not getting the whole truth about all of it, whether it's the origins of the virus,
Starting point is 01:59:20 the medications that are effective in treating the virus, what's legal and why it's legal and why it's being mandated. Like if you're not even, if any skepticism at all, you're attacked for, it's like, that's brilliant. How did they do that? Did they do that because it's just like the perfect storm of a terrifying pandemic, a bunch of people freaking out, and then this solution that gets offered that everybody thinks, like, if you were like some crazy cabal of super billionaires like the world economic forum type you really kind of could engineer society into a certain direction if you just like you know how they behave when things happen and if you can get a
Starting point is 02:00:17 certain narrative out there early enough where you can't no one can call bullshit on it like the vaccine is 100 effective and if you get the, you're never going to get COVID. The virus stops with you. If you can get that out there and enough people can repeat it, then everybody who is against that is against this idea of us getting back to normal. And then you already know, oh, they'll just start fighting. Look at this. This is amazing. And then they'll all comply.
Starting point is 02:00:45 comply and then they won't admit that the problems that you were talking about like excess deaths and all-cause mortality all that stuff young people dying of heart attacks at a record rate they're not they won't look at it right because that goes against their narrative and when all that happened there's two types of people right ones that need a lot of socializing right like we hang out and talk to people. We ask questions, not just our direct family, other like-minded people and whatnot. And the information, oh, you know somebody that got it?
Starting point is 02:01:17 You know what I mean? Right. And I think a lot of people don't have that. So they were going to the internet, right? Especially shut-ins. Exactly. But also everybody, because we had nothing else to fucking do I mean that had to be the time when the most data I bet I'm sure there's a record for that like I'm sure that has to be a record for Wi-Fi use and dad
Starting point is 02:01:36 like I mean everyone's home yeah just consuming and everyone's full of anxiety which brings me to my next point thing thing, which is like, I just read a thing about how corporate trolling is a big thing. Like buying, these corporations are buying in the ability to inform misinformation. There's a crazy statistic, but it's insane. 15% of posts on Reddit were from corporate trolls or something like that. What percent? 15%. I think that thing I read was higher.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Holy shit, man. But it's like. Holy shit. It's a thing, which means it could have been a thing then. Right. Which is why. Yeah, go ahead. Even the people that, like we were talking about the baby boomers not just being spoon fed the news,
Starting point is 02:02:21 even the people that think they're one level smarter are reading things that are easily bought by a multi-billion dollar corporation. Something we wouldn't spend money on information, but I wouldn't say. What a wild thing to do, to hire someone to get a narrative out and to pretend you're a regular person arguing online. And it's totally legal. It's really deception. New study, at least 15% of alldit content is corporate trolls trying to manipulate public opinion now is that fraud what is that it's not technically fraud what is it
Starting point is 02:02:54 though if you're pretending to be a person should you have to sign a contract when you use a social media account like you know this Nikki Haley lady I think she wants everybody to have to like expose their name and their ID whenever they post but the problem with that is then that discourages like government whistleblowers and things along those lines like if someone has like some important information that they have to get out you know and also foreign countries that'll kill people you can't if you if you have the rules apply to America, you're going to have to have those rules apply to other countries. What percentage of people that are on Twitter are from the rest of the world outside of America? It's got to be pretty high. So how are you going to enforce that? You're not going to be able to. But even if you did, this idea that that's a good thing,
Starting point is 02:03:41 I see why they would say that, but you should at least have to somehow or another prove that you're an individual. I don't know how you would do that without giving up your information, but maybe you don't have to do it publicly, but there should be a way where we know you're not a troll. Like, fucking man,
Starting point is 02:03:59 the only problem with that is it's a trap because the way is like a digital ID and you don't want to give up a digital id right you don't want to have like a thing that shows you everywhere you go online because someone will be able to just do things with that they'll be able to manipulate you from that into having something that's attached to something else like whether it's a vaccine passport or a social credit score or you you know, centralized digital currency that's on that phone with that app, with your unique ID. This is how we're going to stop bank fraud. You're going to have a unique ID. Nobody's going to be able to steal your money. Your money's all digital
Starting point is 02:04:35 now. Technically, they could track everything about your life. So when you look at somebody, your glasses can say how often they eat at this restaurant and everything. So is the solution to just allow the trolls trolls allow corporate trolls and hope that people are smart enough to realize they're being fucked with but like what if those corporate trolls are shifting public opinion and it actually costs lives that's where it gets weird like what if they lie about something because they don't want to have responsibility for something they did so they obscure the truth with these corporate trolls and it gets messy enough where people just argue it out and they slide through and you know when you think about the intentions behind who would they attack what
Starting point is 02:05:18 types of things would they try to manipulate it's the things that would threaten them yeah need a little clarification on this as i tried to dig through it's the things that would threaten them. Need a little clarification on this. As I tried to dig through the article, the article is paid for behind a medium, so I can't get there. Paid for by Trolls Inc. Right, exactly. You have to pay to get in there, I said that wrong. What it actually says behind it is 15% of the top 100 subreddits found to have content that was likely posted by bots or corporate trolls, specifically aimed at promoting certain companies or organizations.
Starting point is 02:05:51 I don't know why that's so hard to believe when we know how many trolls are on Facebook and Instagram. There's constant trolls. I was looking at someone was getting attacked for something, like pretty minor, but I was just like reading the comments of this page. And I do this thing now where I'll go and I'll read something that seems like a little weird or off or something. And then I go to their page. Oh, you're a fake account. This is a fake account. You have no posts.
Starting point is 02:06:17 You're restricted. No one can see it. You have no followers. You have like 15 followers. Like, oh, okay. This is fake. You got a fake followers. Like, oh, okay. This is fake. You got a fake account. How many of these are there?
Starting point is 02:06:28 How many of these are there that are just constantly commenting on things and trying to stir up bullshit? It's weird. And it's legal. So if right now there's no law that prevents corporations from hiring people to pretend that they're a person or using AI to pretend they're a person to put a narrative out if that's Not illegal like what is that? Like what kind of deception is that like you're not allowed a lie, right? Like if a corporation is found that they're they're lying about data They get fined if they if they're if it's found out that they're lying about environmental problems
Starting point is 02:07:04 They've created whatever they get fined, right? They get in trouble. People could go to jail. But if you could just have like a bunch of people constantly lying for you or if it's AI, have AI constantly lying for you. Yeah. Obscuring the truth, publishing misleading papers. Right. AI could just start publishing papers you know because
Starting point is 02:07:26 papers get accepted sometimes that are fucking loony like um are you aware of the um the grievance fraud papers okay it's a really fascinating story so these guys who are legitimate academics, they they just it's Helen Pluckrose. Do you have it? Can you pull it up? James Lindsay and fuck Peter Boghossian. Sorry, Peter. Brain, brain freeze. Brain freeze. But the three of them put together these grievance papers where they were fake papers based on ridiculous things like rape culture, the dog park, and heteronormative behavior, the dog park. Like weird shit.
Starting point is 02:08:23 Like fat bodybuilding. Like fake papers. Yeah. And some of them won awards Yeah Like could have put up the the grievance studies affair Okay The grievance studies affair was project with team of authors Peter Boghossian James a Lindsay and Helen pluck rose to highlight what they saw as poor scholarship and erosion of standards in several academic fields Taking place over 2017 2018 their project entailed submitting bogus papers to academic journals
Starting point is 02:08:49 on topics from the field of critical social theory, or in derogatory terms, wokery. Culture, queer, race, gender, fat, and sexuality studies to determine whether or not they would pass through peer review and be accepted for publication. Several of these papers were subsequently published with the authors cited in support of their contention. Yeah. Okay. So let's find out what the names of the studies were because they were very funny.
Starting point is 02:09:16 Like some of them were really, really ridiculous. So basically these are reviewed by other supposedly academic humans. Yeah. So Peter Boghossian, who was, was he at the University of Portland? What are the names of the papers? Right here. Okay, human reactions to rape culture and queer performativity in urban dog parks in Portland, Oregon. Oh my God, it's amazing.
Starting point is 02:09:47 They're all retracted, obviously, because people found out that they're fake studies. Going in through the back door, challenging straight male homo hysteria and transphobia through receptive penetrative sex toy use. Oh my God, can we read that? What is that? That's hilarious. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing.
Starting point is 02:10:07 They were saying that, like, guys of homophobia, you should get pegged and that'll get over, you'll get over the transphobia. And there's just somebody that has to review that and they're like, well, I'm not gonna be the one that gets in trouble for it's basically a study. They were saying, amazing. We like what you're saying. They retract this article. It's come come to light that is not present genuine research
Starting point is 02:10:28 this article was not authored by uh m smith as stated on submission but peter boghossian helen pluckrose james lindsey have all publicly admitted it was written by them under false tense yeah to date very little research literature exists concerning receptive penetration anal eroticism in straight men of particular interest is impact upon other factors relevant to masculinities sex roles and the studies of sex life several it's hard to read this because it says redacted over the top of it, notes like it could be relevant to straight male sexuality, including masturbatory play with penetrative toys specifically. This study seeks to explore do men who report greater discomfort
Starting point is 02:11:19 with receptive penetrative anal eroticism also report less transphobia, less obedience to masculine gender norms, greater partner sensitivity, and greater awareness about rape. The study uses semi-structured interviews with 13 men to explore this question, analyzed with a naturalist and constructivist grounded theory approach in the context of sexual's research and introduces trans hysteria as parallel concept to Anderson's homo hysteria. This analysis recognizes, I can't read that, it's covered over, socially remedial value for encouraging male anal eroticism with sex toys. Encouraging.
Starting point is 02:12:01 They were just trying to say that the social sciences are bullshit. Yeah. That all this theory, these are insane people, and they're talking about nonsense. And so they made these papers, and some of them won awards. Unbelievable. They're basically saying if you shove stuff up a straight guy's ass. It'll fix all his problems. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:31 Imagine there's people that read that and don't go, what the fuck are you talking about? There's people that read that and go, yeah, good idea. I like it. I wonder how long the paper was. I think that is probably what's going on. Yeah. That's probably what they're missing. Everyone's a misfit. That what's going on. Yeah. That's probably what they're missing. Everyone's a misfit.
Starting point is 02:12:48 That's what it is. Yeah. Misfits have found themselves. And they've formed these groups in universities where they're teaching kids. And they're teaching them nonsense. And so when a paper slips through that under a civilization that has its wits about it, the highest levels of education would read that and go, what the fuck are you talking about? What are you talking about, man?
Starting point is 02:13:14 You're talking about, you guys did a study where you pegged dudes to see if you could clear them of trans hysteria? Oh my God. What the fuck are you doing? I want to know the results. Yeah. Results are all fake. They made it all up.
Starting point is 02:13:28 All the research was fake. And that was with a bunch of them. But it's just funny that it snuck through because that's how nuts things are. Things are so nuts in universities. You have so many crazy people teaching kids. Imagine being a kid, too, when you're finally getting away from your dad. Maybe your dad's a dope. Maybe he's a Fox News monkey, and he's just fucking always parroting everything that they say.
Starting point is 02:13:50 And you're like, God, I can't wait to get away from my repressive father. And you get to a school, and these new people embrace you, and they take you in. And you get to be a part of this new group, and this new group has a totally different ideology from your parents. Man, fuck your parents. And fuck the colonists the colonists and like yeah fuck the colonists and next thing you know you're on board with this shit and then one day you wake up and you're like 27 yeah you're working and you're like where are my taxes going it's wild we had a uh we had i think she was 25 or something year old girl pulled out of the bucket yesterday, last night on Kill Tony,
Starting point is 02:14:29 and she mentioned that she broke up with her boyfriend because she found videos of him sucking a dude's dick on his computer while wearing her clothes. So he would would when she was away he would put on her feminine clothes and have guys come on yeah guys dicks yeah everybody's got their thing Tony yeah it's a it's wild times I asked I asked her I go did he come out as gay after that? Did he come out of your closet? How much of this trend that you see in society towards whether it's transgenderism or queerness or this acceptance of this, not just accept, but celebration of the LBGTQ lifestyle. Is it possible that a percentage of that is influenced and engineered just like these corporate trolls
Starting point is 02:15:27 or influencing narratives is there a percentage where china is making everybody gay and russia right yeah you think do you think it's possible i don't think it's 100 i'm not saying that gay people don't exist i'm not saying that gay people and trans people shouldn't be free. Of course you should be. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is how many lost people are being influenced by a narrative that is in some way being influenced by foreign governments? Is it 5%? Like, what's the number? Like, what is the number where this message gets elevated specifically as a way to, whether it's demoralize or confuse or cause some sort of societal disruption? foreign government, and I was going to figure out a way to fuck with the country. What better way than have a bunch of gender confusion and people mad about gender confusion?
Starting point is 02:16:36 I guarantee you that per capita, there's more gays in America than there are in China. If you can hand out that questionnaire. Yeah, but maybe not though. Maybe it's like the Catholic school girl thing where you tell them they can't do it and they just want to do it. All right, let me put it this way I Guarantee you there's more people willing to admit. They're gay in America, but in China and Russia. Oh, yeah for sure Well, I think in you ever seen a Russian admit to being gay. I think it's illegal I Think there's something great like what are the laws in Russia on game? That was one of the things that pussy riot We're I think there's something great. Like, what are the laws in Russia on gay? That was one of the things that Pussy Riot were protesting about back in the day.
Starting point is 02:17:13 Remember that Russian girl punk band Pussy Riot? Yeah. They were Russian? Yeah. Huh. Bro, you want to be an activist in Russia? That's a different kind of courage. That's a different kind of courage.
Starting point is 02:17:22 Yeah. That's a different kind of courage. You want to do protests in Russia? They'll beat the fuck out of you they'll lock you in jail right um but I think there's like laws against homosexuality Stalin in 1934 made it illegal for anal sex between men three to five years imprisonment and then you're in a prison butt-fucking forever. Right, but that was illegal in America at the time, too. Lenny Bruce used to have a joke about that.
Starting point is 02:17:51 One of Lenny Bruce's rare jokes that culturally still work today, he was like, dig, so you take these guys that they're into guys and you say, hey, you can't be gay, that's illegal.
Starting point is 02:18:04 So you lock them up with a bunch of men who want to have sex with them. Yeah. that they're into guys and you say, hey, you can't be gay. That's illegal. So you lock them up with a bunch of men who want to have sex with them. Yeah. That's amazing. They knew the guys were fucking each other in prison in the 50s, in the 60s.
Starting point is 02:18:16 Everybody knew it. But homosexuality at that time, I think, was illegal in America. At least in some way. Sodomy is what was illegal. Right, but that's what that is. So you can be gay, you just can't do anything. Because sodomy is mouth and butt.
Starting point is 02:18:35 Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And then they changed it to same-sex sodomy in some states along the way. Finally. So straight people could do their mouth and butt thing. Who was the last? The last guy
Starting point is 02:18:48 to get convicted. Shit! 2003. His last dude was eating ass in the 1860s. I bet you could figure it out.
Starting point is 02:18:57 Alabama. No. Georgia. No. Tennessee. California. 2003. New York.
Starting point is 02:19:03 Texas. No. Texas. West Virginia. Texas. It was? 2003. Guy got 2003. New York. Texas. West Virginia. Texas. 2003, a guy got arrested for eating ass. Your Honor, he was eating that girl's ass. I walked in, I caught him in the middle of something against our Lord.
Starting point is 02:19:17 Missouri had a law against homosexual conduct. Ooh. Wow. We could all get arrested for that. The crazy thing about calling it sodomy is you're talking about Sodom and Gomorrah. You're talking about a biblical thing. That's what's wild about that term. That's the origin of the term sodomy.
Starting point is 02:19:33 So if you're saying that someone can't do gay stuff, you're saying they can't do gay stuff because the Bible says it's illegal. Lawrence versus Texas is what it's called. Wow. That's called. Wow, that's nuts. 2003 is a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the court ruled that sanctions of criminal punishment for consensual adult non-procreative sexual activity, commonly referred to as so earlier cases had found the U.S. Constitution provides, even though it is not explicitly enumerated. It based its ruling on the notion that personal autonomy defined one's own relationships and of American traditions of non-interference with private sexual decisions between consenting adults.
Starting point is 02:20:21 Fucking duh. Imagine it took till 2003. That is nuts. Yeah. consenting adults. Fucking duh. Imagine it took till 2003. That is nuts. Yeah. So in 1998, John Geddes Lawrence Jr., an older white man, was arrested along with Tyron Garner, a younger black man at Lawrence's apartment in Harris County, Texas. Garner's former boyfriend had called the police, claiming that there was a man with a weapon in the apartment. What a bitch move.
Starting point is 02:20:47 Oh, man. What a bitch move. Angry ex-boyfriend. There he is. What a bitch move. Garner's former... His old white man ex-boyfriend's just getting pounded by some beast. You son of a bitch.
Starting point is 02:20:59 He's got a gun. Garner's former boyfriend had called the police, claiming that there was a man with a weapon in the apartment. Sheriff's deputy said they found the men engaging in sexual intercourse. Oh, what the fuck? They brought... Imagine in the middle
Starting point is 02:21:11 of having some good old butt fucking... Just a bunch of police with revolvers. SWAT team. Texas fucking... Fucking... Hold up, hold up.
Starting point is 02:21:21 Stop, stop. They got night vision on. Shit. Fucking... They brought a dog. Jesus Christ. Lawrence and Garner were charged with misdemeanor under Texas anti-sodomy law. Imagine, they broke into these guys' house while they were having sex,
Starting point is 02:21:39 and they charged them with the anti-sodomy law. Both pleaded no contest and received a fine. Assisted by the American civil organization Lambda Legal. Not to be confused with NAMBLA. North American Man-Boy Love Association. You know, that's a real thing. Yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:22:03 Lawrence and Garner appealed their sentences through the Texas Court of Appeals. It's ruled in 2000. Sodomy law was unconstitutional. Texas appealed to have the court. Wow. Texas is like, nope. Sounds suspicious. We're appealing that appeal.
Starting point is 02:22:18 You ain't butt fucking in my county, son. Look at here. Page 25. Right here in the good book. Says no butt fucking. Oh my God. You let one in, you let them all in. Yeah, a man cannot layeth with another man.
Starting point is 02:22:34 Oh my God. Yeah. What is the origins of the term sodomy? Can you Google that? I'm 99% sure it comes from Sodom and Gomorrah. But what is it described when it says sodomy? Like when you say... Like the biblical description?
Starting point is 02:22:51 Yeah. Well, Sodom and Gomorrah, right? So they were apparently engaging in all these awful things, and God decided to smite them, right? That's the story? Do you remember the story? I mean, someone tried to put a bad name on fucking Sodom. He did something.
Starting point is 02:23:05 Something happened, and I think it was like a town, right? Yeah, yeah. Was it two towns, Sodom and Gomorrah? Yeah, they were next to each other. They're just both motherfuckers getting out of control, getting crazy. It sounds like Vegas. It sounded like Vegas. It was their version of Vegas, and everybody was like, hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 02:23:26 Hey. And they're like, what are you talking about? We figured out a way to fucking not have kids. Yeah. And God's like, uh-uh. Uh-uh. No, not up the butt. That's where it says it right here, I guess.
Starting point is 02:23:36 Okay. Addresses people as from Sodom and Gomorrah, associates Sodom with shameless sinning, and tells Babylon that it will end like those two cities. So what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible? Oh, that was the fire and brimstone. Right. Can you just find out what it says? I just want to read the description.
Starting point is 02:23:56 Oh, well. Is it at the top? Wasn't that it? We have to do Bible study now. Wasn't that it at the top? No. Yeah, we're doing Bible study. I know this is a long description.
Starting point is 02:24:03 It doesn't say anything that you're looking for. It definitely isn't going to say anything about butt fucking in the Bible. I know that. It's a lot of like inferred, this is what they were talking about. Right. I don't think it's about butt fucking in the Bible. It's just talking about sin. But how does it become specifically sin of butt-fucking?
Starting point is 02:24:27 If you said someone sodomized someone, you would say they butt-fucked, right? Hold on, let me do like sodomize. It seems like religion has kind of penetrated society on this one. You know what I mean? Like in the law. Because that's what they say is against the law, right? Sodomy? Or was that part of the thing?
Starting point is 02:24:47 Yes. It comes from the sin of sodomy. Yeah. Sin of Sodom. Sin of Sodom. So why is sodomy a sin? Jesus joins other ancient authorities in viewing the sins of the sodomites as the abuse of strangers, neglecting the poor and the needy, and the stigmatizing of outsiders.
Starting point is 02:25:04 Whoa. Wait a minute. Now it gets weird. Yeah. Now it gets weird because I like what Jesus is saying. So Jesus is saying when you commit sodomy, the sin is the abuse of strangers, neglecting the poor and the needy, and then stigmatizing of outsiders. And then Texas is like, yeah, butt fucking.
Starting point is 02:25:24 Basically butt fucking. That shit's illegal, man. Don't be butt fucking is like, yeah, butt-fucking. Basically butt-fucking. That shit's illegal, man. Don't be butt-fucking. No, no, no. And Jesus is like, that's not what I said. Jesus is like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying don't be shitty to strangers. Scroll back down so I can read that again. Don't neglect the poor and the needy
Starting point is 02:25:39 and don't stigmatize others. See, this is how we prevent wars. You other people, right? Jesus is saying, don't do that. And everybody's like, yeah, no butt fucking. Jesus said it. Yeah. Hey, no stigmatizing around here.
Starting point is 02:25:52 But imagine if that's what the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were. They were just shitty to people. And Jesus is like, don't be shitty to people. And then someone's like, I heard they were butt fucking too. That's even worse. That's even worse. There was probably some dude who really wanted to butt fuck and be so angry that he couldn't butt fuck. Nobody gets to butt fuck.
Starting point is 02:26:11 Right. Because that's a lot of it. When you find people that are like vehemently anti-gay, you're always like, hmm, how long before they catch you in a wetsuit? Ooh. Dildo up your ass. Addition to this. Okay. Dildo up your ass Addition to this
Starting point is 02:26:23 Okay Unnatural sexual relations Such as Those customs Imputed to the inhabitants Of biblical Sodom Especially between men But also with breasts
Starting point is 02:26:36 Beasts Oh excuse me Beasts from old French Sodomy Compare late Latin for a beast from old french sodomy uh compare late latin anal sex literally the sins of sodom from the latin sodoma in middle english also sin sodomic um did you know that some forms of syphilis apparently came from people fucking animals no yeah do you know what animal?
Starting point is 02:27:06 I think it's sheep. Is that true? I might have made that up. I know that there's different forms of syphilis, and one they're pretty sure came from the original people in the Mayflower coming over and having sex with Native Americans and then going back to Europe and giving them VD, giving them syphilis. The kind of syphilis is just killing everybody.
Starting point is 02:27:27 Because that's the syphilis that makes your fucking rot chunks out of your fucking face and your nose falls off and shit. Yeah. And apparently that really started hitting Europe right after the Mayflower and the Pinta and the Santa Maria. Like right after that. Do you have a piss? You making that I got a pee move?
Starting point is 02:27:47 Okay. Okay. Just checking. So they were, but there was another version of syphilis, apparently that already existed in Europe that they think came from bestiality. He's sick fucks.
Starting point is 02:28:00 I don't know. Is that true? Is that fake? I don't know. This says, importantly, like smallpox, fucks that's true is that fake I don't know this says important importantly like small smallpox there is no known animal reservoir for syphilis animal
Starting point is 02:28:12 reservoir that mean that they can't keep it hold it store it yeah I mean you can't get it from them um I thought that oh so that means that animals don't have syphilis so it's not so what was the origin for the original syphilis in Europe? I gotta swear, I thought I read something about it being connected to animals. Maybe that was just a rumor. Maybe that was one of those things that was like, people thought that's what happened, but then they found out it's not the case because there wasn't an animal reservoir. Because you know that animals have COVID, which is really weird. weird like deer they've tested a bunch of deer that have covid and they're like
Starting point is 02:28:50 how how the fuck did they get covid how did how do wild deer get covid right like really how did that spread but i think during the height of the pandemic there was like a good percentage of deer that they would test that tested positive for COVID-19. Maybe because of the, if it's in an area where there's feeders or something. Could be. Human contamination. Could be. Could be.
Starting point is 02:29:15 Maybe people handling the deer. If it's not wild deer, maybe it's deer that get released in the wild and they give it to the wild deer. Yeah, like what deer are getting COVID tested? Probably ones near humans. Well, definitely ones near humans because they're probably ones that were hunted. They shot them and then they tested them. I'm pretty sure that was how they found out. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:29:40 I'm not sure about that, though. This article even says that medieval DNA studies didn't come, Columbus didn't trigger syphilis in Europe. They already had it there. Yes, but what this guy was saying the other day that was telling me that he understands, he's a doctor. He's saying there's really two different kinds of syphilis, though. It's like syphilis did already exist in Europe. But he said it's pretty obvious that the syphilis that happened specifically right afterwards seemed to be more aggressive and different.
Starting point is 02:30:11 And this was the idea that the syphilis had come from America. They went looking... Okay, the team went looking for syphilis. What they found was a much wider array of treponemal strains, not just syphilis, but also yaws, which today is found exclusively in the tropics, and a previously undiscovered strain with no modern day counterpart. We see that many different lineages were present in Europe, which we did not know before, Schooneman says. What's more, the dating range, given the two strains is bounded on the lower end by ages in the early to mid 1400s potentially the first dna evidence that syphilis existed in europe prior
Starting point is 02:30:53 to columbus's contact with the americas interesting so it may be that it existed there but then they brought back a more virulent strain or something i don don't know. I don't know who's right, but it is wild that that's one of the ways that these infectious diseases got passed on. People would just show up with them. And that's the thing, like when people talk about the genocide of the Native Americans, what they leave a lot of folks, maybe no one even knows, that 90% of them die because of diseases. Right. Imagine a country where 90% of the people die. Imagine if like this thing that's happening right now where the borders are open and all these South American people are just storming through. It's crazy.
Starting point is 02:31:35 Yeah. If you see the border of America, it's fucking nuts. It's a wide open border, which is just insane. But when you're watching that, imagine if they brought over a disease that killed 90% of the people here. Whoa. That's what happened in 1492. Whoa. I never thought of it that way.
Starting point is 02:31:53 Yep. There was 100 million Native Americans here at one point in time, they estimate. Did you say 100 million? 100 million. Oh, fuck. Damn. Yeah. We were, that was.
Starting point is 02:32:02 How wild is that? That's crazy. That's the high estimates. Make sure that's true. I. Make sure that's true. I'm pretty sure that's true. But they used to think there was much less. And then as time has gone on, they've realized also they've been here a lot longer than they thought. They found footprints of people that were here 22,000 years ago.
Starting point is 02:32:20 They had this idea of Clovis first. I don't know what the specific time period of Clovis, but the Clovis period, they thought that was the beginning of people in North America. And now they're like, nope, we found footprints of people 22,000 years ago. They're like, holy shit. Yeah, 100 million or more. Population figures for the indigenous peoples of America prior to European colonization have been difficult to establish. By the end of the 20th century, most scholars gravitated towards an estimate of around 50 million, with some historians arguing for an estimate of 100 million or more. In an effort to circumvent the hold in which the Ottoman Empire held on the overland trade routes to East Asia, and the hold that the
Starting point is 02:33:00 attorney Regis granted to Portugal on maritime routes via the African coast and the Indian Ocean, the monarchs of the nascent Spanish Empire decided to fund Columbus's voyage in 1492, which eventually led to the establishment of settler colonial states and the migration of millions of Europeans to the Americas. That's nuts. What an invasion. What a crazy invasion. I mean, that is one of the wildest stories in human history. And it's so ironic that at that same place, people are bitching that people are storming in from the border.
Starting point is 02:33:43 Yeah. It's kind of funny. I mean, they have a good point. You really do have to have secure borders. But still, it's kind of wild that this one country that was literally established as a place to go to when you're fleeing a place that sucks. You're like, yeah, we're full. We're full, kids. Stay out.
Starting point is 02:34:03 I wonder what the study is on that in, like, Australia. I've never really thought about the number of the natives that were there before. Well, the crazy thing about Australia, my friend Adam Greentree, you know Adam. Yeah. He was here the other day explaining to us the number of different languages they have and that a lot of them aren't even written down and that these tribes will be, they're called the mobs of Aborigines, that a mob will be 30 kilometers or 300 kilometers away
Starting point is 02:34:31 from another mob, and they speak a totally different language, and they don't even know what it is. Like, they can't communicate with each other. Wow. They said there's hundreds of them, hundreds of different languages. So if they needed a cup of sugar,
Starting point is 02:34:41 they wouldn't even know how to ask for it. They'd not ask for it. And they've been around for a long fucking time man they've been in that place for a long long long long long time and they find like ancient artwork on the walls of caves and shit and sides of cliffs it's like he's found a bunch of like ancient aborigine art because it's so wild you're just like you're looking at this thing like how old is this like no one even knows wow yeah bro they used to have um was it in australia no it was new zealand i think they had a they had an eagle that could kill people it was called the host eagle it was an enormous eagle and they think they went extinct because people decided to kill them because they were killing people.
Starting point is 02:35:25 Probably. Yeah. So they found the, you know, the whatever fossils and skeletons, this fucking eagle. And they found, I think there, I don't know if it's, I don't know if they're connected. But I know they found primates. There's a lot of primates that get killed by eagles. It's like a common thing, especially in South America. There's an eagle called the harpy eagle.
Starting point is 02:35:49 It's amazing. I think it's the biggest of the eagles that are alive today. And it kills a lot of monkeys. And when the monkeys see that fucking eagle coming, man, they go crazy. They scream and run. They run around the tree. They're trying to hide. This motherfucker comes in looking like a demon.
Starting point is 02:36:07 Just a snatching demon from the sky. They keep that sloth population in check, though. Good luck being a sloth. Easy pickings. Nature fucked them. Why did nature do that? Imagine. They have to eat eucalyptus all the time.
Starting point is 02:36:26 Or they start to fucking get antsy. I think that's a koala bear. Oh, yeah, you're right. Koala bears are actually like little bears. They're actually there. They behave like bears. Apparently, when they mate, it's very aggressive. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:42 I held one, and for the first time time I think the last time I was there Just finally got around to the stupid zoo visit and fucking They do have you have you held one no oh, it's so interesting so like holding a bear bear It is a bear it is and it's just a little bit. It's like dense yeah, it feels like two or three bowling balls like right once and yeah it feels like two or three bowling balls like at once and you know they'll have like a hand on you or whatever so the person or you has to keep feeding it leaves of eucalyptus and if it goes like if it goes it felt like these are because these were some addicted like child star fucking koala bears that work at the zoo all day so i don't know if they're all like this but
Starting point is 02:37:23 if they go like 10 or 20 seconds without getting another hit of eucalyptus their fucking little hands start to fucking claw at you well not claw at you but like let you know a little grip right hey fucker right yeah they get a little like snoop doesn't he paws your face yep pet me bitch yeah yeah And he paws your face. Yep. Pet me, bitch. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:46 Eucalyptus addicts. Yeah, that's a weird thing, man. You get a wild animal, you just keep, look, I got him tamed. Look, I got him tamed. It's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Where's the fucking food? Right. I know I look cute.
Starting point is 02:37:57 Yep. I'll bite your fucking nose off, bitch. Now imagine a bear that's 1,000 pounds. Yeah. Think that little thing, like how dense it feels, right? Oh, it's crazy. Imagine one as big as this room. That's how big they are.
Starting point is 02:38:14 Does anybody ever hunt them with bows and arrows? Yeah, they do, a lot. Yeah. Look at them. They're growling. Whoa. You've got to remember, those tiny little what look like tiny paws are holding up that heavy thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:28 A little heavy thing. Yeah, it's got claws. I mean, it's climbing with ease. They climb trees like it's nothing. What a crazy looking animal, too. Imagine the first guy to see one of those. You're like, what is that? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:42 Look at that fucking thing. How strange. A giant. But at that fucking thing. How strange. A giant. But I guess back then everything was strange. They had so many. I mean, Australia's got so many weird animals, man. Yeah. All the marsupials, I think, come from Australia, which is weird. Like, how'd that happen?
Starting point is 02:38:57 Why you got a fucking hoodie when you get a front pocket you keep your baby in? Like, what the fuck is that? Yeah. No other animals in the world, I don't think, have it. So interesting. I think they're the only animal. I think it's only, I don't know if that's true, if Australia's the only place where there's marsupials.
Starting point is 02:39:15 Because I know that Tasmanian tiger, I think that was a marsupial, which is nuts. Because it looked like a dog. I don't know that one. Tasmanian tigers. 70% are found in Australia. The rest are found in the Americas. Really?
Starting point is 02:39:31 What part of the Americas have- Primarily South America, 13 in Central America, and one species is the Virginia possum in North America. No shit. There's a possum in Virginia? That's a marsupial?
Starting point is 02:39:44 Wow. What are the other big ones? Because I know there's like, for sure the biggest ones, kangaroos get fucking giant. There's two kangaroos. There's a red one and a gray one. I forget which one gets huge. But one of them gets fucking huge. Like real big.
Starting point is 02:40:01 And they'll fuck you up. Like they're giant. They're like seven feet tall. And they'll fuck you up like they're they're giant they're like seven feet tall and they'll fucking kick your guts out they get up on their back tail they'll sit up on the tail and just fucking kick at you what is it a kangaroo oh yeah yeah oh they're crazy yeah yeah what am i talking about right no i was thinking about how weird it was i got stuck on that fucking weed we smoked during the kan Kanye song was powerful. I typed, what are the marsupials in South America? Am I incorrect that marsupials, they all carry their baby in their pouch?
Starting point is 02:40:32 That might not be the correct definition, but I thought so. I thought so. So there's marsupials in South America. Yeah. But the big weird ones are Australia. Any members of the mammalian infraclass marsupialia, all extant marsupials are...
Starting point is 02:40:49 Oh, I usually have a pouch. You usually have a pouch. Kangaroos, wombats, bandicoots, wombat. I've seen something recently. Have you seen a shark egg?
Starting point is 02:41:05 I don't think so. Alright you seen a shark, I guess, egg? Whoa. I don't think so. All right. Let me show you this one because it was a very specific kind. Oh, I have seen sharks. I thought sharks give birth. So this is like the eggs before they're fertilized? This is a spiral shark egg.
Starting point is 02:41:21 Yo. Whoa. That's what the egg looks like? The person that posted this video like on TikTok, or so yeah, this is the one that was on TikTok recently. They found it on the coast.
Starting point is 02:41:29 Holy shit. Like on the edge and they're trying to figure out what they should do with it. Usually they get like lodged. Cook it. Yeah. You can see the larva.
Starting point is 02:41:37 Whoa. That's amazing. Holy shit. Phillip would hit that shit with a torch for three seconds and take it right down. Yeah. It's another horn shark egg casing.
Starting point is 02:41:48 Horn shark. Horn shark egg casing. Look how beautiful that is. So, a lot of questions about these guys. People were asking me if they were hard because it looks like glass. I know. It looks like a Nerf ball. They're actually soft.
Starting point is 02:42:01 Yeah, like a football we throw at our kids. It's pretty squishy. I don't want to squish it. But let me see if we can, it's not really a new sun. Wow. Let's see if we can see through it at all. Okay, so it's actually able to get a little bit. Wow.
Starting point is 02:42:17 And you can see the little embryo in there. Oh my God, it's alive. Oh my gosh, this is so exciting. Oh my God, the embryo's alive. So could they take that and turn it into a shark, or does it have to do that inside the mother's womb? That's nuts. If someone could grab that and raise it, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:42:33 Can you bring it to one of them chicken places? Will they do it with chickens? Put it in an incubator? Yeah, an incubator. I don't know. I doubt it. Why can't you? Because they hate sharks? Because people hate sharks? We could go look for one and try, I guess.
Starting point is 02:42:46 I wonder what happens after that. I was watching a fishing video in Key West, and there's a bridge that these dudes fish on, and when they catch a fish, it's a mad rush to get the fish to the surface because there's so many bull sharks there. It's like infested with bull sharks. And they lose fish all day long.
Starting point is 02:43:06 And so this guy catches a bull shark and cooks it and eats it. And that's a real controversial thing nowadays because for whatever reason, it's like one of those ideological things. People have decided that, oh, my God, you eat sharks. Did you know sharks are endangered? Like, no, maybe some maybe all over the world. Their numbers are down because of shark fin soup because they cut their fucking fins off. But for the most part, no. Like, especially in certain spots. There's a lot of them.
Starting point is 02:43:34 It's like saying, are there grizzly bears? Are grizzly bears an endangered species? Well, they're not even in most of the places where they used to be, which is probably a good thing. But that's it right there. Well, it's going to hatch here in a second. But they're not low numbers if you go to where they live. There's a lot of them there. It's just like they're not in San Francisco anymore.
Starting point is 02:43:54 Right. But if you go to the north, they're there. You can find – go to Alaska. You'll fucking find a lot of them, man. They're there. So it comes out like that. I guess in theory you could put one in an aquarium because that's where they have. So they just lay them.
Starting point is 02:44:07 Yeah. And then they come out like that. Okay, so that's a different kind of shark because I think some sharks give birth to live offspring. Yeah, I've never even heard of a horn shark. It looks a little bit like a hippo's face. It's wild looking. Look at that. It looks kind of like a hippo to me.
Starting point is 02:44:23 Yeah. Yeah. What a cool egg, though. God, look at that. Looks kind of like a hippo to me. Yeah. Yeah. What a cool egg, though. God, that's amazing. Yeah. That's one of the wildest things about the ocean. If the ocean did not exist and we found a world somewhere that was filled with the creatures of the ocean, we would be freaking the fuck out. We'd be like, dude, it's so nuts.
Starting point is 02:44:43 They got mammals. They speak languages. They have these creatures that hide from each other by literally mimicking the floor of the ocean until something comes by. There's only a few sharks.
Starting point is 02:44:54 Like a cat shark, which I've never heard of. Lay eggs. So most sharks give birth to live offspring. Wow. Interesting. Cat shark. Whoa. Wow. Interesting. Cat shark.
Starting point is 02:45:08 Whoa. That's cool. You know what the weird one is? Like, you can't keep a great white shark in an aquarium. I also noticed that horn shark had two dorsal fins. Maybe there's some sort of differentiation between, like, this is technically not a fish, but it is a shark, but it's laying eggs. Right, like a cousin. Yeah. Yeah. because it doesn't really look like a shark traditionally well it looks a lot different than the sharks that fuck up surfers that's the thing that keeps me from surfing bro
Starting point is 02:45:35 yeah oh i'm not into it i watched a video yesterday i don't i don't know if it was real but it was a guy on a surf surfboard where the shark just up and just gets his whole chest. Ugh. God. It sends him into the air and is just getting his whole chest with a bite, and you're watching it. I don't know if it was real, though. That's the thing about today. Right.
Starting point is 02:45:57 It looked real. Yeah. Looked like a surfer, and then all of a sudden he gets bit. I don't fuck around with the ocean at all. The rivers here, the lakes here, all nice, very fun. I'll never get in the ocean again. Never liked it when I did. Not my thing.
Starting point is 02:46:13 It's a spooky place. Yeah, it's crazy. You're very, very, very vulnerable in that spot. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, you can't move good. Uh-uh. You go into a place where there's a bunch of monsters and you can't move good?
Starting point is 02:46:24 Slow moving compared to them. You're so slow. You're like, boom. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Boom. Good you go into a place where there's a bunch of monsters, and you can't move good slow We're like a cheerio. We're the one cheerio left in a cereal bowl for them. It's just scoop I was watching a video yesterday of a shark attacking another shark bites the sharks tail off So there's one smaller shark is swimming and this big shark comes up behind it and bites his tail off you want to get in there with that they kill each other you want to get in there with that they're monsters they move so much faster than you you're so vulnerable and they kill each other what are they going to do to you they're going to try you we think they're going to oh that's a person I don't like people they're just the mindless black-eyed like no no nothing just death in that eye yeah that's like space that I that I has no emotion just and you're gonna get in
Starting point is 02:47:16 there with that what for thrills oh you like the way the water feels under the board okay I have a lot of friends who do it god bless you yeah not me wild not me crazy not me i'd want to be in an iron man outfit with missiles yeah out of here that'd be a fun way to do it that video of that guy getting eaten off the egyptian coast is absolutely horrific you know i still haven't seen that oh my god It's horrible because the guy's getting killed while Stand By Me is playing. Ugh. And you're watching the guy bob up and down. He's screaming for his dad while the shark is eating him alive in front of everybody.
Starting point is 02:47:57 In front of a resort. Damn. Bro. It's a scary way to go, man. Yeah. Imagine resorts. Imagine if there was a resort and the resort was at the edge of the forest if you go in the forest you go at your own peril because there's werewolves out there and most people are like yeah but it's really fun to like skirt along
Starting point is 02:48:16 the edges of the werewolf park as long as you don't go in the park too deep like hey just i really love being in the trees it's worth it it's worth the risks werewolves are only a werewolf once a month the moon has to be full every other day you can just like you can go fuck in the woods you don't have to worry about shit right you could you go camp you could have a good time but when that fucking moon is full there's way more sharks than werewolves oh yeah oh yeah there can only be a couple of werewolves right yeah this is the new thing in colorado they just released wolves um so oh population of um this area where the wolves are being released two-thirds of the people voted against wolf release.
Starting point is 02:49:06 Colorado's releasing wolves and taking Trump off the ballot at the same time. Yeah, they're releasing wolves and they have this ideological idea. The problem with releasing wolves is, yeah, wolves used to be there and wolves are cool. But the world's different now. They have ranchers there and these ranchers, they're going to be there and wolves are cool. But the world's different now. They have ranchers there. And these ranchers, they're going to get attacked by wolves. Their cattle are going to get slaughtered by wolves. People are going to lose their dogs.
Starting point is 02:49:33 Everything around there is going to have to deal with these repercussions. People that are actually around wolves, whereas the people that voted for it for the most part are in these urban areas where they're like, oh my God, wolves are amazing. Let them go. But they don't know what a wolf is because they're never around them. It doesn't mean that wolves aren't cool. They're the coolest fucking animal of all time. But boy, you want to bring them in.
Starting point is 02:49:54 You want to get, you know, were they bad wolf? You want them really in your neighborhood? Were they there and not there anymore because the ranchers killed them? Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:50:01 They killed them. The people coming across America killed them because they were killing all the cattle and they were killing people's dogs. And, you know, it was, you know, not good that they made them extinct. But not good also if you let them populate unchecked. So the problem is they, a lot of times they get them in and the pretense from these wildlife biologists, when they hit a number they'll open up a season for wolf hunting but most people are opposed to wolf hunting ideologically because you're like wolves are amazing they're beautiful you shouldn't hunt them right but the thing is you let them go and now if they're there and they overpopulate like historically that's been terrible and i know people don't remember because we've never had like wolf issues during our lifetime because the settlers killed the wolves.
Starting point is 02:50:49 If they didn't, there would be wolf issues. That's just a fact. If you let a large population of wolves exist in a place where people exist, you're going to have wolf problems. And people in Canada are well aware of this. And people are in Alaska. They're well aware of this. And now people in Alaska. They're well aware of this. And now people are going to find out in all those areas where they've brought wolves. And if they don't manage the population, it could get to be a problem.
Starting point is 02:51:15 I've talked about it ad nauseum, but I'll bring it up one more time. In World War I, there was a ceasefire between the Germans and the Russians because so many of them were getting killed by wolves. They decided to band together and hunt the wolves. Guess what? That can happen here. Yeah. That can happen everywhere. That can happen where wolves are,
Starting point is 02:51:33 especially if you let wolves go unchecked and if the people that live in the city is like, wolves are amazing. I wish there was more of them. So it said they're just releasing five? Is that what it said? What does that mean, though? Right.
Starting point is 02:51:44 They're going to fuck. Yeah. They're, though? Right. They're going to fuck. Yeah. They're going to stick together. They're going to fuck. And then, you know. There's also wolves that are making their way into Colorado organically. Because Colorado borders Wyoming. Wyoming has wolves.
Starting point is 02:51:58 And wolves are coming in organically. And they think maybe grizzly bears. There's been reports. My friend Adam Greentree, who we were just talking about before, he got video footage of what he says is maybe grizzly bears there's been reports my friend adam green tree that we're just talking about before he got video footage of what he says is a grizzly bear looks a lot like a grizzly bear in the san juan mountains there's been reports of people seeing them makes sense they can they can walk over there you know but to bring them in and to want more of them more want more wolves like you better be willing to manage their population because it'll
Starting point is 02:52:25 get to a point where then people will revolt it's gonna get it'll get sketchy it'll be like a lot of other things that happen in this country that are ideological decisions you know that like people they think about like a wolf with their emotions like wolves are amazing they're incredible creatures i want to see a wolf. Do you? Are you sure? Do you want to die by a wolf? People die by wolves. That's Little Red Riding Hood.
Starting point is 02:52:51 That's what that's all about. Those kids' stories about the big bad wolf. What that was was about humans used to get attacked by wolves. They'll fucking kill you. I don't think we had them in Ohio, right? Of course we did, at one point in time. Wolves have larger-than-life places than the human imagination. The stories we all grow up with and tell each other, said Polis.
Starting point is 02:53:13 To see them in their natural habitat and turn around cautiously, curiously at us is a really special moment that I will treasure for my entire life. So that's the governor who was really smiling and clapping because he thinks he's doing the right thing when they release the wolves. He thinks he's doing the right thing. You know, you just have to manage the population. And it's really hard to do that. That's the reason why they poisoned all the wolves back then. That was really the only way to significantly affect their population numbers. You can't hunt them. You can, but you're not going to put a dent in them. They're just too good. They're too smart. They're too good at moving. They're going to smell you from a mile
Starting point is 02:53:54 away. Once they realize that you're hunting them, good luck. Unless you're hunting them from helicopters and you're doing it in a really barbaric way, just have a hunter go hunt them. like a really barbaric way. Just have like a hunter go hunt them. The best hunters are, you know, not that successful wolf hunting. Like wolf hunting is difficult. It's a really hard thing to do. You know, they get smart.
Starting point is 02:54:16 And also you have to go to where they are. And they're very nomadic. They can move around. They travel. They can traverse a mountain so easily. They can get away from you so easily. You ever see one when you're hunting? Never see.
Starting point is 02:54:30 I saw one once going across the road, I believe. I'm not entirely sure, but it looked like a big dog, and it was really late at night, and it was in Alberta where they have a lot of wolves, and we were in the woods. It was going across a dirt road, but it was at darkness, like past dusk. It was starting to get dark. But I saw this thing run across the road. But I've never seen one up close. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:53 That was the one that's driving us through past Yellowstone. Is that Wyoming? Yellowstone is in Montana and Wyoming. Yeah. But we were going through, I think, Wyoming for some reason. And maybe Montana. But anyway, I had something like that where I thought I saw a bison and the whole kill Tony crew that was in the car is I'm driving, but I had been driving for hours.
Starting point is 02:55:14 So I don't really, but I'm, I was positive at the time. They have them out there. Yeah. But everyone else, there was someone in the back. I can't remember,
Starting point is 02:55:23 but someone was like, no, I saw that it was a blah, blah, blah. I'm like, no, it was a b the back, I can't remember, but someone was like, no, I saw that. It was a blah, blah, blah. I'm like, no, it was a bison. They might not know. Yeah. You could both, either one of you could have been right.
Starting point is 02:55:33 They definitely do have them there, though. Have you seen one of those? Yes. Oh, okay. Yeah, I've seen them in Yellowstone. Yellowstone's weird because it's like this open-air zoo. The animals behave so much different. The elk just hang out over by where the fucking vending machine is.
Starting point is 02:55:49 They're just laying on the ground. I took a couple selfies with them. Wow. Yeah, I gave myself some distance. I didn't run up on them, but I'm like, all right. They're everywhere. And they've realized that the wolves don't come to the visitor center, so they hang around the visitor center so they don't get jacked by wolves.
Starting point is 02:56:12 Because when they reintroduce wolves into Colorado, that's where they reintroduce them. Excuse me. When they reintroduce wolves into Montana, that's where they reintroduce them. They reintroduce them into Yellowstone. And they spread out from there and went all over the place. Wow. Yeah. And what was the thought behind that?
Starting point is 02:56:25 The Yellowstone people wanted that? Well, I think it was wildlife biologists and conservation groups, and people voted on it. And I think the idea was to reintroduce them and then manage their numbers. But then the thing becomes once they've reintroduced them, then the wildlife activists, they don't want you to hunt them. And so there becomes a lot of disputes about whether or not they should open up a wolf hunting season. They have in Montana. They haven't in other places. I think you can hunt wolves in Montana. You could definitely hunt wolves in Canada. I think you can hunt wolves in Idaho. So you can trap them? No, you can trap. There's a bunch of different laws in different places.
Starting point is 02:57:05 I don't want to speak out of tone. Out of line. But I know you can hunt them. Legally, you can shoot them in a bunch of states now. Montana, I believe, is one of them. What states can you hunt wolves in? What do you do?
Starting point is 02:57:21 Can you eat a wolf? You can. No one does though. But like some of the trappers, like there's like ancient trappers and one of these guys was a famous ancient trapper. I forget his name but his favorite food was wolf. He liked to eat wolves. The only time it's acceptable to shoot a wolf in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming, states where wolves have had to undergo reintroduction, is when a wolf attacks a person or threatens livestock. Well, where are they hunting wolves then? Is this still true?
Starting point is 02:57:52 So ranchers can shoot them. So it must be only Canada and Alaska? A wolf tag. Okay. Wolf permit can be purchased under the deadline, but a purchase after the deadline requires a 24-hour wait period for use. The cost of a non-resident wolf tag is $50. So that means you can buy a tag for wolf hunting.
Starting point is 02:58:14 Is this an old? I just typed in. I literally typed in. Right. Can you hunt wolves? But is that an old article where it says there's no wolf hunting? Oh, it's no wolf hunting inside the park itself. Yeah, this one was for Yellowstone.
Starting point is 02:58:28 Right. You can't hunt wolves. You can't hunt anything in Yellowstone. Right. But where can you legally hunt wolves? Can you just Google where can you legally hunt wolves? Right here. Okay, there it goes.
Starting point is 02:58:42 Where can you legally hunt wolves in Canada or the United States? Yeah, it's like province to province. However, wolves have been delisted from the Endangered Species Act. They're now managed by state wildlife agencies. That means hunting and trapping of gray wolves is allowed in certain states, but with specific
Starting point is 02:59:04 regulations and hunting seasons in place. So that's when they delisted them, when they realized they had gotten to a point. But they think they've gotten beyond the point where they initially said they would start hunting them. Which states hunt wolves? This is 2012, though. Okay. Minnesota and Wisconsin. Bad day to be a gray wolf in Wyoming, which today begins the first wolf hunting season in more than half a century.
Starting point is 02:59:26 Okay, Wyoming, you can hunt them. It's one of three states. The other two are Minnesota and Wisconsin that will offer hunts for the first time in decades this fall. It's not easy. I talked to a guy who was a wolf hunter on Instagram. He's killed quite a few wolves. With a gun. With a rifle, yeah.
Starting point is 02:59:44 And he was telling me, it's not easy. It's very difficult. It's hard to get to them. They're very smart. And the whole idea behind it is that like, oh my God,
Starting point is 02:59:54 these hunters are gonna kill so many wolves. He's like, most people are not gonna go through with this to get a wolf. He's like, it's very hard to do. And they travel in packs.
Starting point is 03:00:02 They travel in packs. And if you're out there on your own and you only have one rifle and they want you, right? You got a problem. Yeah. And if you're going to be out there, you're going to have to probably be in a small party of people like you and maybe one or two other people to avoid detection
Starting point is 03:00:18 and to be able to sneak up on them. And then you're super vulnerable. Oh my God. Oh my God. If they find out you're hunting them and they find out you have to do this every time you want to reload. We got all the time in the world. I mean, it takes a second or two. Oh, yeah. If one's coming in this way and one's coming in that way and you shoot that one, they just fucking just sprinting.
Starting point is 03:00:40 Get you from the sides. If wolves realize that people have to reload, then you're going to have to have semi-automatics. You're going to have to have people on the sides of you. You're going to have to have wolf-proof outfits. Where was he hunting wolves at? Alaska? I'm not sure. It's one of those
Starting point is 03:01:00 states, I guess. Maybe it was Wyoming. I thought it was Montana. But I know, I've seen wolf hunting videos. There's this guy, Ryan Lampers, who's a fascinating dude. Who's a hunter who is a, just like very articulate, very intelligent, interesting guy. And, uh, he hunted a wolf and put it on YouTube. And I was watching this like, this is wild. You can watch someone shoot a wolf on YouTube, wolf hunting, but wherever he was, it was legal. like, this is wild. You can watch someone shoot a wolf on YouTube. Wolf hunting. But wherever he was, it was legal.
Starting point is 03:01:29 He had a wolf tag. That's why I was asking. I was like, what states? So I guess Wyoming's one of them. I don't know what the seasons are, if you could do it at only specific times. But they're not putting a dent in the population. That's the point.
Starting point is 03:01:44 The point is they're going to keep growing. Their their their packs gonna keep growing unless they do something about it and they're never gonna do what they did when they killed them off in the beginning they just left a bunch of dead horses and they filled them up with strychnine and wolves would go and eat the horses yeah and the alphas would get it first right so the alphas would get sick and die off and then it would confuse the population and the rest of them would go and eat it, and they'd all die. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:02:08 Pretty amazing. Pretty amazing that they killed off the wolves that way. You read before to now, this was updated last year or this year, it's changed in Wisconsin at least. Maybe Minnesota also. So they can't hunt them anymore in Wisconsin. And they're relisted on the Endangered Species Act in February of 2022 after the hunting and trapping season killed 218 wolves, which represented 83% more than the state's goal. So that was Wisconsin. Hmm. Interesting.
Starting point is 03:02:41 Let's go back up again. An Alaska wolf season generally stretches from August 1st to April 30th, though different game management units may have different dates. Idaho allows wolf hunting year-round on private land. Public land is more restricted. Depending upon the game management unit, the season could span from August 1st to June 30th or be earlier and shorter from April 1st to November 14th.
Starting point is 03:03:05 Trapping also has a more restricted season in both public and private land. Trapping is rough. Yeah, that's weird. Trapping is rough. That's a rough one. Yeah. That's a rough one. Fucking clamp them down or strangle them.
Starting point is 03:03:20 And then just trap there, freezing to death. Yeah. They find them like rigor mortis that's crazy yeah it's wild you know it's wild fur is offensive to people like tim dillon came in the other day at his giant raccoon coat on amazing yeah uh fur is offensive but leather is not right leather is just skin without the hair that's all it is but skin with the hair is like hey right
Starting point is 03:03:51 you're a terrible person and the person probably has a leather belt on yeah might have like leather sneakers on leather is fine you are also participating in death yeah where they just get the skins off this thing and turn them into your clothing,
Starting point is 03:04:07 and you're fine with that. Yeah, it's hairless death. That's okay. As long as you take the hair off and make it black and shiny. Yeah. That's crazy. Most people's shoes.
Starting point is 03:04:17 What percentage of shoes, especially dress shoes, are leather? Oh, yeah. Super high percentage, right? And purses and luggage. Here's how goofy California is. California made it so you can't have Python anymore. The skin?
Starting point is 03:04:35 Yeah. So if you want to buy Python boots, you can't get them in California. It's illegal. You son of a bitch. What are you doing? Meanwhile, Florida is overrun with pythons. Yeah. Florida has so many pythons, they have a bounty on them.
Starting point is 03:04:49 I literally was gifted. This is how crazy Texas is. I was gifted last night. Someone had it sent up to the green room. I was gifted python cowboy boots last night, less than 20 hours ago. You'd be arrested in California. They'd arrest you. That's amazing.
Starting point is 03:05:08 Yeah, and then charge you all kinds of crazy taxes. Yeah. Hilarious. It's nuts, dude. Normal day. It's nuts. This country might as well be a bunch of different European states. Like European countries that have completely different languages, completely different cultures.
Starting point is 03:05:29 It's so different here. It's so different in so many ways. It's so ridiculously different that you look at what people are tolerating in these other places. You're like, why? Why let them tell you what to do? It's crazy. Dude.
Starting point is 03:05:46 Pythons aren't endangered, you fucking idiots. Bro, San Francisco is a different fucking world. Yeah, you went, huh? This tour, this stand-up tour that I've been on has been crazy. Because it's been a real like, okay, let's see where they're at. Because you're in downtown, you're at a hotel downtown, you're at the airport. So you get the same type of barometer for each city and what they're going through or how they've recovered in San Francisco, downtown San Francisco. And I can't believe, and of course they're not, but I can't believe how the news or any mainstream things don't cover this more.
Starting point is 03:06:20 Because it is crazy. The damage control, however this isn't a huge story. It should be as big of a story as, remember, like Flintwater? Yeah. It's like that, except it's the streets. So unless you're getting out of a fucking, you know, out of a door and walking straight across the sidewalk into where you're going, you're at massive risk at any point in San Francisco. The streets are rampant with everything and anything.
Starting point is 03:06:49 Wow. I saw more people shooting up on the sidewalk. I saw more people shitting. I saw humans shitting multiple, multiple. It's just a normal thing. You just poop on the sidewalk. You get out of a wheelchair and you lean over next to your wheelchair.
Starting point is 03:07:03 You go poop and you pull your pants up and you get back in the wheelchair and they keep going down the street it's like grand theft auto at night time you know what i mean things people are just straggling along it's just but nothing nothing's really driving i wasn't personally driving we had we had a car service there jesus christ but let me tell you what stood out is the fucking hotel had massive private security guards that looked like cops. But they're not cops. They're security guards. Because the cops are whatever.
Starting point is 03:07:37 They're busy or defunded or whatever is going on up there. They're nowhere to be found. up there they're nowhere to be found and so these the like say a nice hotel or a nice venue has to hire not off-duty cops but fucking security massive like old football players and shit just huge dudes with fucking just to keep the kooks out exactly because the weekend that we went there they had just raised i can't remember the thing but they're like you're here on a special weekend whoever picked us up from the airport. So this is the weekend that goes in effect where you can now loot
Starting point is 03:08:09 up to a higher amount. Like last week it was 800, now it's 2,000 or 10,000. It's something crazy. That's a good idea. What is? The looting thing. Make it so that you can just loot. Well, I mean, there's a point where we're standing out there smoking everything looking at a store Across the street and we're like we could go in there and fucking take something like we could
Starting point is 03:08:34 Us and we're not being serious, but we it's literally like you could go and you can take something You know how they have everything locked up in plastic? Yeah, Whitney sent me this video of this guy in New York City, and he brings a blowtorch into a Walgreens. And he just blowtorches those plastic things and pops them open and takes all the medication out and all the stuff that he wanted out. Oh, my God. Puts it in a bag. No one stops him. Again, how much of this is engineered?
Starting point is 03:09:22 Again, how much of this is engineered? How much of this is the great conspiracies about people that are trying to engineer the downfall of America? What better way than destabilizing all the cities with rampant crime and constantly changing the laws to make it easier and easier to commit those crimes and never adjusting, never adjusting when you see that there's more chaos, more looting, but never adjusting. Constantly defund the police, constantly do all the things you did that led to this mess. Double down, double down, double down till when? Till when? Till it's that movie? Till when? Right. Till when? You might've seen this guy before. He runs a channel called Channel 5 now. It used to be called All Gas, No Brakes. I watched this video he made.
Starting point is 03:09:56 This is not all the footage he got, but he has a 45-minute documentary on the streets of San Francisco. Just here at the beginning, he's interviewing a guy. I think this guy's about to smoke crack. And while it's happening, a big race driver gets their car robbed right in front. He goes with in-depth crazy he meets some crazy people the car's just rolling with no no one's driving yeah someone took it he he goes with this guy is someone driving that it looks like he's just rolling in reverse with the car door wide open after i said grand theft auto so oh my where else do you see that other than grand theftft Auto? That is so crazy. So he goes deep into the Tenderloin District.
Starting point is 03:10:28 Some of these guys are giving him really in-depth interviews admitting to stuff that would probably get him arrested. But they're explaining why they're not afraid of saying it. Why? It's wild. There's another 40-minute video with this guy named Jack the Bipper. This guy goes around and steals stuff and explaining to him why. How he it he goes with him on one of his like robberies um some of it's tucked on his patreon which i have not seen and some of that looks even crazier one of the videos he goes jack the bipper's got a patreon no no this guy that made this whole thing andrew
Starting point is 03:10:59 andrew callahan he's got an only fans He goes into a harm reduction facility. This is in a 30-minute video showing what they're giving people, the drugs they're getting, the needles. Some of the footage he got is insane. And that's in San Francisco. And this is just what's on YouTube again. Some of it is not on YouTube, and it is crazier. Wow. And this is very recent footage.
Starting point is 03:11:24 He put this out within the last couple weeks. So it's all up to date. This is what it's like on the street there. Okay. Why? Is that engineered? Is that just a failure of government? Just incompetent government?
Starting point is 03:11:38 Or is someone trying to fucking ruin the country? Are they doing a really amazing job of it? Is that what's happening? Something's up. If it wasn't happening, let's pretend it was. Let's pretend there's some guy like the Joker, and he's engineering the collapse of America. And he's doing it, and he's doing a really good job. Like, if this was a movie, and you watch this movie in 2015, you'd be like, there's no way anybody could do that.
Starting point is 03:12:07 They couldn't do that. It's not – 2015 is only eight years ago. You're telling me that eight years ago someone could re-engineer society and have, like, a total collapse of law and order in the streets of San Francisco? Right. Dude, I filmed Triggered in San Francisco in 2016, and it was great. Yep. It was 2016. It was 2016. It was great San Francisco.
Starting point is 03:12:27 We'd go to nice restaurants, hang around. There was a few homeless people back then. There's still people pooping in the street, but it was a small number. Right. There was no tents. There was none of that. Right. So from 2016 to 2023, the whole thing has completely changed.
Starting point is 03:12:42 And that's one of the weirder parts is it's the same architecture and beautiful hilly streets and all of these San Francisco the font on the street signs all the little, exactly. And it's all still there except it's fucking just
Starting point is 03:12:59 I mean everything is chaos. And they're literally paying people. Paying people to live on the streets. And it's a lot of it. A lot of downtown. Like, you have to go, like, over a bridge, and then you still see the outsiders scattered around. And then, boom. Like, it gets less and less, but you have to go. I'm talking out of the city.
Starting point is 03:13:20 We didn't stop seeing chaos until at least 15, 20 minutes into our drive out of the city. Apparently in Seattle, Bellevue has none of it. Bellevue is the rich area of Seattle. That's the beautiful downtown shopping area, gorgeous area. Apparently they're like, eh, eh. Right. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:13:41 No, this is where the rich people live. Get the fuck out of here. Right. But in San Francisco, they're like, we need to help these houseless people. Oh, it's the ultimate conundrum because it's like- What are they doing? Right. What are they doing?
Starting point is 03:13:53 Is it engineered? Are they- Because they're- Look, if it was- Yeah. Way to go. I mean, you guys fucking nailed it. Who would have ever thought?
Starting point is 03:14:04 I'll say this, is that one thing I noticed was we went to dinner, or basically lunch, after we landed at a really, really, really good Chinese restaurant there in Chinatown. I can't remember the name of it, but it's like legendary. Anyway, and I did notice that a ton of the people around us, sitting around us, were gay couples. Like gay men, gay San Francisco men were gay couples, like gay men, gay San Francisco men, the other stereotype of San Francisco, right? Downtown at least. And I thought to myself, I wonder if there's a correlation, right, between having an extremely high gay population and homelessness and looting and stuff running rampant, because I thought about West Hollywood and Beverly Hills, right?
Starting point is 03:14:47 And I thought to myself, hey, maybe they're just butt fucking. And then, you know, who gives a shit what's going on out there? And by the time you get down there, you're so virtue signaling and progressive, right, that there has to be a correlation. I'm also so high by the way, so high. I was trying to figure out where you're going with this. I have been fucked since that,
Starting point is 03:15:07 whatever that fucking thing is. Yeah, good stuff. I think it's a, it's a progressive thing for sure. Elon talked about it. It's like there's a mind virus. There's this woke mind virus. And to go against that in any way
Starting point is 03:15:21 and to oppose these people camping out is to be, to dehumanize them and to you know to degrade their choices and it's just nuts it's just nuts that they've allowed it to get so far gone to the point where how do you fix that and how did they fix that when ji jingping came to town did anybody ever figure that out and what happened to those people where they put them? Nobody ever explained it. They just moved everybody out, cleaned up the streets, put up fences.
Starting point is 03:15:50 No more camping. Cleaned it up. Put up them China flags. Or they cleaned up his route. But it doesn't matter. His specific route with fences and everything. It just shows that they could have done it all along. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:16:02 So why wouldn't they? If they could do it all along and they did it for the leader of China? Right. What? Why wouldn't you do it for us? Why wouldn't you do it for the people that live there to make it nicer? What are you doing? And did you let it go back?
Starting point is 03:16:22 Like what happened after Xi Jinping left? Did you just like, eh, go back to shitting in the streets? Yeah. They fucking pressure washed the streets. They did everything you have to Because it's not dog poop. So you have to look down at the sidewalk runny diarrhea junkie poop. Yes blatant human poop Oftentimes that a lean of a 90 degree leans worth away from walls. Jack in the box and meth. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 03:16:49 Thick, girthy, runny, soft, soft yet thick and long shit. And you probably smell it. And by the way, that's how plagues get started. And you also see other shoe prints in the shit. You know what I mean? You're like, oh, someone's already, because it's like smeared and then you
Starting point is 03:17:04 have to look for that second step. Imagine you come home, your dog's sniffing your shoes. Like, why are you sniffing my... Oh, god damn it. And you didn't realize you stepped in human shit. And your dog's like, what the fuck are you bringing in the house? Yeah. Oh my god. I found out that in Skid Row,
Starting point is 03:17:19 they found some medieval diseases. I think they found typhoid in Skid Row. See if that's true. Typhus, that's right. Which is just nuts, man. That is like a medieval disease. And it came back in the day.
Starting point is 03:17:36 Look, if you go back to ancient societies before they had indoor plumbing, people just shat out in the streets. They shat in buckets and they threw it out into the streets. Oh, my God. They had public outhouses. In New York City, in like the 1800s, they had public outhouses
Starting point is 03:17:53 where people would go out there and just shit. Damn. And they had these tenement buildings where everybody stacked on top of each other just living in each other's shit. Oh, my God. 2019s. Who knows what there's now? Inside the squalor on Skid Row as typhoid scare grips los angeles fucking typhoid look at that
Starting point is 03:18:11 good god what's that what is the crazy thing about skid row dude skid row was really bad when i was filming fear factor skid row was really bad i had no idea it was discussed. It was not a thing that anybody talked about. Right. We were filming downtown in like 2000. Fear Factor started in 2001, so it's somewhere after that. And we're downtown. So it's way before the pandemic, way before anything. And I remember I drove down these streets, and one of the streets was like Skid Row. I was like, holy shit. One of the streets was like Skid Row.
Starting point is 03:18:44 I was like, holy shit. Just row after row of people camping and living in washing machine boxes and refrigerator boxes and just open air drug use and zombies wandering down the street. Thousands of people. You can't believe it. And that was engineered. Skid Row was engineered yeah skid row was engineered skid row was a place where cops would take people that were derelicts and all fucked up and you know they were in the way in beverly hills just bring them skid row get out of here and they kept them in there oh yeah and they
Starting point is 03:19:17 put the the treatment places there and the food shelters there and the homeless shelters there like stay here crazy they all stayed there they don't have any cars where they're gonna go when i moved to la right out of high school um my brother told me you don't need to go downtown unless you absolutely have to go downtown like that's it you can go west you can go all the way to the ocean but don't go downtown east is not the place to go you can go north kind of you can kind of go south major city where downtown's a disaster and that's exactly what i thought but all it took was fucking it wasn't long after that where i missed the bus stop or something like that and the whole thing fucking drops you off there and yeah that was it almost came back downtown almost
Starting point is 03:20:01 came back downtown was starting to get gentrified or established, whatever you want to call it, where they were putting in businesses in a lot of these abandoned places. It was starting to become kind of cool again. And a bunch of places opened there. It was like a bunch of cool bars and cool restaurants and 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu is in downtown. And it's like starting to become a fun, exciting place to be.
Starting point is 03:20:26 But then the pandemic and all that progress that they had just fucking collapsed upon itself. And now it's just scary again. All of LA is weird now. All of LA has a weird vibe to it. Just a different, it's a different place. I always say that it's like, if there was this girl that you used to date a long time ago and she was really cute.
Starting point is 03:20:48 And then you ran into her today and she's on meth and she works for the cartel. Yeah. Like, oh, my God, what happened to you? Yeah. What happened to you? My neighbor I talked to for the first time in a long time, my neighbor from L.A., who we lived in the same building for years and years, uh, told me the other day, he goes, yeah, it's, it's a lot better now. It's it, our little neighborhood is a lot better now. It's like cleaned up. And I thought to myself, it's three years later, three full years since
Starting point is 03:21:19 I've been out of there. And you know, what I was also thinking is like the vulnerability, and you know what i was also thinking is like the vulnerability you're right there it's the same thing but that happened there so how can you trust it again because i think i mentioned this on the show before but i was like in it man yeah we were in it and i told him because again i haven't talked to him in years i'm like man i'll never forget that fucking night because him and i walked out and to the actual cross streets of fairfax and third right after the big riots and like there was graffiti everywhere really took me back talking with him about it because you know people say it's like the end of the joker movie and things like that but it was really like the end of the joker movie and it's not a zoo or an amusement
Starting point is 03:22:03 park you're waiting to see like a line of people or people. And it's not a zoo or an amusement park. You're waiting to see a line of people or people taking pictures. But it was real. It was like a Universal Studios ride. I'm sorry. Remember it was either the 101 or the 10 that had those cop cars that were on fire? Like a bunch of them?
Starting point is 03:22:20 Remember watching that? Yeah. And that's your way out what the fuck yeah that's like a movie scene yeah like no way look at all these cop cars on fire yeah there was when we went out there on that big night the trader joe's that's behind us was on fire the paper source across from that had its glass broken on people just running around okay putting fucking birthday cards into bags and just running to cars that had no license plate one after the other after the other people running from every direction you were hearing broken glass from different distances like oh god that's right here oh shit there they are yeah going into this i saw
Starting point is 03:23:02 one i saw one in woodland hills they smashed into this closed store they were running into this closed store and we were driving by like holy shit look at that yep they just smashed the window and they were running inside of it and that night they had helicopters over melrose if you remember because a couple places were completely on fire that big night and they were and the helicopters were filming all the different looting and that was another one of my hoods was fucking all of that and the big things on fire and that you're watching them empty and you know the people's faces you know who owns those businesses yeah hey matt hey tony how's it going grabbing a coffee, whatever. Like neighborhood friends, everything. The coffee shop, the fucking watch repairman,
Starting point is 03:23:49 the fucking every job, dry cleaner. All these people, all those relationships, you're watching, taken out, their windows are broken and people are just taking shit. Wild. It would never happen here. I know that. Well, it probably wouldn't happen here
Starting point is 03:24:03 because too many people are armed. But also, how crazy is it that it happened there? We would have never believed that. Right. Never believed that in 2015 that things could change so quickly. But again, if you want to go full Alex Jones, that's the test run. That's the test run. If things can get that bad in that very specific area it takes
Starting point is 03:24:25 three years for them to recover imagine this scenario that you saw in that movie trailer civil war movie trailer fuck dude it's crazy maybe we'll pull out of the fire san diego was nice though was it yeah it was still a lot of homeless downtown but yes exactly military community yeah yeah that's what it is yeah a lot of discipline in that town it seems like uh if people think that you could maybe might have a gun that people behave themselves a little bit a little bit more yeah yeah interesting funny how that works so weird all right i gotta be Let's wrap this up.
Starting point is 03:25:05 Tony, you're the man. Rock and roll. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you so much. I'm very, very happy for your success. Watching Kill Tony crush it in arenas
Starting point is 03:25:11 has been really inspiring. It's very cool. Thank you. And watching what you guys have been able to do in that show, which is, I say it, I'll say it again,
Starting point is 03:25:19 it's the cornerstone of community in Austin. It's the cornerstone of the community in this country, which means it's the cornerstone of the comedy community in the world. It really is, because it teaches people that it's just about being funny. It's about going for the joke. You have one minute. There's no room for anything else, and it's all wild. It's a wild show.
Starting point is 03:25:38 We're having a blast. You are having a blast. It's beautiful. I love it. Thank you. I'm very happy. We're having fun at your club. We're having so much fun dude alright that's it goodnight everybody
Starting point is 03:25:48 buh-bye

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