The Joe Rogan Experience - #2081 - Tony Hinchcliffe
Episode Date: January 2, 2024Tony Hinchcliffe is a stand-up comedian, writer, and actor. He's also the co-host, along with Brian Redban, of the podcast and live YouTube show "Kill Tony." ...
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We up?
We're up.
What up, dawg?
Hey.
Look at you, balling out of control.
Two sold out arena shows for Kill Tony.
Yep.
New Year's Eve, let's fucking go.
And in town.
Amazing.
He gets to do an arena show, a 10-minute drive from your apartment.
Yeah.
Dude, you're balling out of control.
Look at you, son.
We're pumped.
Wearing pajamas to work.
I love it.
This is a full Jordan sweatsuit.
I thought it was pajamas.
I was like, Tony came in all casual in his PJs.
There's stuff that I want to wear to do stand-up in that I can't do stand- but during the day you can do stand up in that oh i can't you 100 could i've literally
put it on and then like right before i leave i go into black pants and a black hoodie one of my
my biggest mistakes ever is like i get high and then i get dressed it's a terrible idea
it's a terrible idea i'll be wearing fucking raincoats and shit
yeah i have a bunch i've been dressing very eccentric during the days lately
it's fun it's fun yeah why not why shouldn't you you're a baller now yeah yeah and then at
nighttime i at the last second i get scared sort of you still wear that crazy belt buckle
oh i wear the belt buckles everywhere.
I got more.
Someone just sent me a golden pony made of gold that says golden pony in big letters.
My homie Bones Eye that makes all those leather joke books on Kill Tony just showed me one that he's almost finished with,
which is the alien head of the mothership with the two-kill Tony guns crossed over.
I mean, a big one, dude.
You're going to fucking love it.
So now people know that I like belt buckles, so they're going out and fucking getting me
custom-made belt buckles.
Oh, man.
Boom.
Cody Garbrandt gave me a gold chain that his jeweler made, and on one side is my face,
and on the other side is my dog's face have you worn it yet
no let me tell you something i told my wife she has to wear it i go she goes i'm gonna wear it
with the dog's face i go the fuck you are you wear it with my face out wear it everywhere you go
but if you try that on when you're chilling at home one day and you're like just wearing
shorts or something you throw that chain on you might chilling at home one day and you're like just wearing shorts or something, you throw that chain on, you might never take it off.
No, I'm afraid to ignite the Italian in me.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I'm afraid to start wearing gold chains and shit and pinky rings.
A hundred percent.
That's what happens.
Yeah.
I don't want to ignite that part of me.
Yeah.
I got it.
You know, like when Mike Tyson was fat, one of the things that he said, he did want to work out.
He goes, I'm afraid to ignite my ego.
Because it did.
It ignited his ego.
Then it became Mike Tyson again.
He goes, I'm afraid to.
What was his exact quote when he decided to fight again?
He said something like, the gods of war.
Yeah, there it is.
That's baller as fuck.
Oh, my God.
Cody can wear shit like that because he's a cool dude. That's baller as fuck. Oh, my God.
Cody can wear shit like that because he's a cool dude.
I'm an old dork.
I can't be wearing that.
Oh, that's a good gateway. It's pretty cool, though.
That's a good gateway.
I like the Marshall one, though.
I'll wear that.
That dog's the best.
Golden Retrievers are literally the greatest dogs of all time.
They're so different than any other dog.
They're like people.
They're so weird.
It's like they just, they're so tuned in.
Like there's all these different things that I say to that dog where he knows exactly what I'm talking about.
But it's not like, sit, give me your paw.
It's like, hey, man, you want to watch TV?
And he just goes running with me into the TV room.
Wow. And he hops up on the couch And he just goes running with me into the TV room. Wow.
And he hops up on the couch with me and cuddles with me.
Amazing.
He's just, my friend Mike says they're all love sponges.
It's like a love sponge.
Yeah.
I've been thinking about getting a dog, but everybody's told me not to until I'm done with the road.
Yeah, don't.
Don't.
It's a real problem.
You feel bad.
You feel bad. You feel bad.
Your dog is getting dog sit or your friend is over your house
and they're probably not paying attention to the dog or walking the dog.
This dog is the happiest dog that I've ever had,
but he's also the dog that I put the most time with.
We spend a lot of time together.
I throw the ball for him every day.
When we lived in California, we ran
the hills all the time.
It's like we have a relationship. I take
him to the studio. He
always throws up in the car
unless he's in my car and he's in the front seat.
If you're petting him, he won't throw up.
But if he's in the backseat, you're going to hear.
It's just something about motion.
Some dogs, they get in the car, and that's why they like to stick their head out the window.
I think they don't like the motion, too.
It just feels, why are we moving?
They don't understand.
They're sitting and they're moving.
Probably in their dog brain, it like what is this i got to see my old dog from la that i
haven't seen in like uh two and a half years or something like that maybe three years uh
a few weeks ago i did a show in san diego and my ex came to the show big theater and uh they made
it down to the green room and it was like one of those old soldier reunion videos oh it was unbelievable she never forgets it was great yeah when a dog really loves
you yeah my my oldest daughter has a little chihuahua whip it mix named snoop and uh whenever
i see snoop he just runs towards me, like full blast,
like literally knows I'm going to pick him up,
so he kind of like almost launches himself to me.
He just runs up to me, launches himself to me, and I carry him.
He only wants to be carried.
Like everywhere, he wants to give you little kisses on your face,
and you want you to carry him.
Amazing.
And he's just so cool.
But he's a little annoying in that if you watch TV with him, if you're not petting him, he'll paw your face. Oh. Yeah, he's just so cool. He likes to like, but he's a little annoying and if you watch TV with him, if you're not
petting him, he'll paw your face.
Oh.
Yeah, he'll start doing this like, hey man, don't do that.
Stop doing that.
Wow.
But you know, he's like four.
Right.
Like I can't really train him now, but I hate dude, don't, don't fucking do that.
He's like, then fucking pet me.
It's like this thing where you get this little chihuahua on your lap. And I'm like, come on, but don't do my face like that.
Come on, man.
He's like, then pet me.
Then pet me.
And you just got to keep your hand on him.
You can't just keep your hand on him.
You have to move it.
You can't.
You got to rub him.
The second you stop moving it, he paws your face.
Oh.
Keep rubbing me, bitch.
Wow.
What a life.
Dogs have it made.
This dog does, though.
He's just a fucking
little love bug.
It's funny because little dogs
generally like they're a little weirded out
by people sometimes.
Not this one. The moment I met him,
he just jumps to everybody.
Everybody's like, you're my friend!
Like, everyone's my friend! He just has
no worries about people not being his best friend.
Just runs right up to him.
He's not scared of people.
Some little dogs are, like, just weirded out by people.
Yeah, David Lucas' little puppy's adorable.
He's got a little French bulldog, right?
Ron had that one that got snatched up.
Yeah.
I found some feathers in my yard the other day,
and I was worried one of the chickens got snatched.
But it's something else, some other bird.
We have foxes.
Yeah?
Do those come out at night?
They come out in the morning.
I've seen them in the morning.
I've seen them at night, too, driving.
But we've got security camera footage of them.
It's pretty cool because the security camera is very high resolution.
So it's good to get this video of this cool looking little animal.
And they make a weird noise.
You ever heard of fox?
Uh-uh.
Oh, God.
It's so strange.
What does it sound like?
I don't want to do it.
Let me hear it.
You're good at animal noises.
I'll do it if I hear it.
I want to hear it again because I forgot exactly how it sounds.
Like there's so many animal noises I have in my head.
We still laugh about the other night a few weeks ago.
We were all wasted for some reason doing wolf impressions and mitzvahs.
And you came and sat down and were like,
Joe, show us your wolf impression.
And you did an actual wolf.
We were just howling like morons.
You sounded like there was a wolf in the distance.
Listen to this thing.
It's like a scream.'s weird that's it oh
that's frightening yeah but when you see them they're so cool looking like i wouldn't be sad
if you only ate like one of my chickens don't eat all my chickens motherfucker because then i have
to kill you yeah but you can get one chicken, one stupid chicken. Fox Sounds.
Yeah, that's what they sound like.
Fox Sounds is the only Fox channel I don't watch regularly.
I have so many animal noises in my head. I watched this video yesterday.
Have you ever heard a cat mimic a bird?
No.
Okay, watch this.
Really?
I mean, I'll be honest.
It doesn't sound exactly like a bird, but this does not sound like a cat.
Oh, wait a minute.
That's it.
Oh, yeah.
It does different animals out here.
Did you know that I had a bit about that?
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
I had a bit about this cat that I used to have that was a big old fluffy cat this like cute little cat until it saw something outside
and then it became murderous and like they have this they do this thing when they want to bite
so they it's they're so it's so weird that you're a beautiful little cat that was before the jre so
i didn't know the statistics about cat murder.
It wasn't before the podcast.
Before an episode, rather, we talked about how many fucking birds and mammals get murdered by cats every year.
Yeah.
Fucking billions, dude. In America, billions of mammals and birds get murdered by cats.
Scary animal.
I had an angry one when I went to college.
My brother did, and I lived with my brother.
And there were two cats, Hops and Misty.
And Hops was cool as fuck, jumped up on the ceiling.
Just jumped all the time.
Loved jumping.
And Misty was like this angry bitch that would just.
It's like, you don't really get used to that.
There's something even as a human that's 30, 50 times its size.
It's like, ugh.
Yeah, you don't want to fight a cat.
Right.
If a cat was trying to fight you, think if a rat was trying to fight you.
You'd be freaked out.
Yeah.
Just a little rat.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Dude, everything can kill you.
Yeah.
Everything can kill you.
That's one of the more exciting things about hunting in mountain lion territory.
Your hackles are always up.
The chances of them trying to kill you are very low.
The chances of them killing you if they want to are very high.
Wow.
Damn.
They're very high.
If you get snatched up by a mountain lion, you have almost no chance.
So for that, you have like a pistol on your side though. Yeah. You should keep a pistol if you're in mountain lion you have almost no chance so for that you have like a pistol on your side though yeah you should keep a pistol if you're in
mountain lion territory if you're in bear territory you keep a large gun not
not most guys carry rifles but they'll also carry like if they're bow hunting
they'll carry probably a 45 or a 10 millimeter a big gun a gun with a heavy
round and still you're fucked.
They're so big.
You don't know how big a bear is until you see one in the flesh on the ground in front of you.
Yeah, this is one that's, this is somewhere in Europe.
I think that's a stag.
And this bear is just fucking dragging this 300 pound stag around the way you would drag your luggage.
I mean, that's a big big animal it's bigger than 300 pounds
I think that might even be an elk
it's either a stag or an elk
but I mean that's a solid 500 pound animal
and that bear is just fucking mauling it
and it's not even a big bear
that's not a big one
the really really really scary ones
are the Alaska ones. The Alaska ones
are insane.
My friend Steve Rinella told this story on the podcast
as did my friend Remy Warren who was there as well
where they got attacked
by an enormous
coastal brown bear.
It was like 11 feet.
Enormous.
It had claimed the elk that they shot.
They shot an elk on a hunting trip oh shit and
the way alaska is this they were on this place called a fog neck island or fog neck island is
insanely dense and so if you're gonna pack out if it's like a certain time at night like say if you
shoot the animal and it's like 5 p.m and it gets dark at 8 p.m. you you can't get it out in time it takes a
full day and you can't manage your way through that brush in the dark it's too
dense you're going a mile it takes you hours hours and hours to go a mile
because it's just so dense you're just moving through everything and so they
hung this this elk up and they went they took some of the meat back with them,
and then they went back in the morning to pack it out.
It's cool, so you don't have to worry about the meat going bad.
They didn't realize when they got there that a bear had already found it.
And the bear had claimed it.
And so they said, let's sit down and eat lunch before we pack out.
So we'll fuel up before we pack out because it's a long package.
So at that point, they didn't know that there was a bear.
They had no idea.
So these guys are all planning to carry like 100 pounds each on their backs.
And they're going to go miles and miles through this dense shit that's going to take forever.
So they're like, let's eat.
So they're sitting there eating.
And someone hears something.
And they turn.
So they're sitting there eating and someone hears something and they turn and they see a fucking monster of a bear running straight at them in the camp.
And the bear probably didn't realize there were so many of them.
And that's maybe the only thing that saved them because they kind of scattered. And one guy, this dude they call Dirtmouth, he was actually riding the the Bears back at one point for like 10 yards on top of the Bears back
and then fell off and the bail ran off and so the bear was in the woods like
watching them making noises like wolf and I'm making these noises and now
they got their rifles out but no one had a rifle out no one had anything out
they were all just eating sandwiches Wow my friend Remy said he
had his gun in his bag like fucking ah so let's say you had a gun on your side
like Jesus Christ what do you do because that thing ran past them right what if
you shot it and it turned around and ran back like the noise scare them at all
maybe right maybe maybe and it depends on where you are.
Some of them have never seen a person before.
What if you had one of those air horns that's like...
No.
No.
No.
The bear spray doesn't even work all the time.
It's just an embarrassing way to die.
Just...
And then it's just fucking tearing you apart.
Yeah.
Bear spray doesn't even work all the time.
There's that spray that they use.
My friend John, he runs a hunting camp in Alberta.
The Rivets, John and Jen, they're awesome people.
And John had an encounter with a grizzly and he sprayed it.
And he said the bear didn't even react.
He said he just kind of walked right through the spray.
I was like, oh, fuck.
Imagine if that's all you have is this spray and you're counting on this saving you from
the bear.
And he just fucking.
It's like, you ever seen those videos where dudes get tased and they just fucking take
it?
Oh, yeah.
The cops are tasing the guy.
You know, get down.
Get down.
He's like.
Like, just dude, PCP'd up or something.
And he fucking pulls those cords out of him.
Like, now what?
Right.
Now what? Now your now your chords are ground
But I've only seen one grizzly bear in the wild in my life. They look at you so different
They look at you so different we're talking about this on bottom of the barrel the other day
Because like a black bear is a different animal black bears look you like who are you you can eat me?
I'm not gonna eat you like what's going on like black personally grizzly bears look you like this like, who are you? Are you going to eat me? Am I going to eat you? Like, what's going on? Like, black bears look at you.
Grizzly bears look at you like this, like, how fast can you run?
Oh, God.
There's a darkness in their eyes, dude, that's just, that's a predator with no, that's the apex.
They're not scared of nobody other than bigger bears.
Right.
That's all they're scared of.
And the one I saw, man, he wasn't even that big.
He was like a six foot bear, like a younger bear.
Maybe seven foot.
Maybe not that big.
The big ones when you get like 10, 11 feet.
Oh my God, dude.
Jesus.
They're just massive killing machines and they're so durable.
That's the thing about them that's so crazy.
When you watch them fight,
they beat the fuck out of each other
and they don't even seem to have marks on them.
They're biting the shit out of each other's necks.
Although there is one that I saw recently
where it looked like the bear got the other bear in the guts
and he just made a giant gash in his stomach
and they were going to war,
like on the side of this, well, this one person's gash in his stomach. And they were going to war, like on the side of this.
Well, this one person's filming them in the woods.
So if that thing's coming after you, man, your frame, like we were talking about a cat, you know, that's what that is.
It's like the same kind of thing.
It's a wild animal, just much bigger.
Like your brain is not even going to correctly compute how much stronger they are than you.
Yeah.
It's an impossible number.
That's crazy.
And if you've ever seen them run, they can run faster than people can run.
Yeah, so these two dudes.
These two dudes going at each other.
Like, if that's coming after you, man, these are a thousand pounds.
They're just biting the shit out of each other.
They're trying to tell the other one, get the fuck out of here.
This is all my food.
These are all my ladies.
Get out of here.
Bro, imagine you're in the woods you stumble upon that that one's pretty dominant there on the right yeah that's a bigger bigger bear i think the the young one is uh yeah these
bears don't know jujitsu there's no bottom position really some of them do it no there's
no benefit in bottom position in bear fighting right Right. No. No, they don't have submissions.
But they do, like, have some little hip moves, little hip escapes.
Yeah.
And they do, like, position themselves to hold you down.
Seems like they've got some experience.
Yeah.
They'll do side control.
You know, they're, like, biting the neck and holding them down like this.
If you're a bear and you're on the bottom, you're in a bad spot.
Yeah. There's no Charles Oliveros of the bear world. If you're a bear and you're on the bottom, you're in a bad spot.
There's no Charles Olivares of the bear world.
There's no Paul Craigs of the bear world.
There's a bit of judo.
They use the other one's energy against it. A little wrestling.
I was watching a funny clip earlier.
Chappelle said that Prince judoed him.
Have you seen this?
Because Prince took the picture of Dave Chappelle playing Prince serving pancakes.
He took that picture and put it on an album cover before he passed away and made that the cover to like one of his last albums.
And Chappelle said he judoed me and Jimmy.
Oh, this is it.
Yeah, this is great.
Single.
Gosh.
That makes me so happy that that happened.
That just made me so happy.
That's a Prince Judo move right there, isn't it?
Yeah, watch this. Well, no, it's like, you know,
you make fun of Prince in a sketch and he'll just
use you in his album.
He uses your own joke against
yourself. What am I gonna do?
Sue him for using a picture of me dressed
up like it was impossible?
It's genius.
It's checkmate right there.
Amazing.
God, I love Dave.
Those fucking sketches back in the day were so impactful.
His show's the best show that's ever existed.
The best comedy sketch show.
No doubt.
And it was only two seasons.
Yeah.
Which is so crazy that and in living color
people sleep on in living color in living color was wild i remember i was playing pool once with
my friend john and i had no idea of the sketches i didn't understand i think it was like a super
bowl thing like did they do one where the halftime, they had an in-the-living color? Something like that?
They did, right?
So that was the first time I'd watched it at the pool hall.
And I was like, oh, my God, this dude is doing Fire Marshal Bill, Jim Carrey's doing it.
I was like, this is crazy.
This is the craziest show ever.
Dude, that shit fucking raised me.
I mean, all of it.
Bro, Handyman?
Yep.
He had a mentally handicapped superhero?
Jesus Christ, he was called Handyman?
Oh, so funny.
Dude, I tell everybody.
People forgot how good Damon Wayans is.
They forgot for whatever reason because he decided to become a TV star and a movie star.
Dude, when that guy was doing stand-up, he was like Chappelle level.
He was, at his time, he was the guy that I admired the most, like in his prime.
Because he was in his prime when I was just starting to get to L.A.
Dude, he was so good.
His stand-up was so good.
They were all a bunch of store guys.
Like Jim Carrey was young on this.
Well, Damon always hung out at the store.
He would hang out at the store
and
create comedy
like on stage.
He would just start to, he didn't
worry at all about silence,
about dead spaces. He was
using it the way Mitzi wanted people
to use it, like as a lab to create
stuff and damon films all the sets so he has a tape recorder like a camera in the back he films
all the sets he's had all the sets since the 90s he's been doing that wow he just got that tv money
baby yeah the tv money came rolling in and it like, I could just hang out at the house.
There's Sam Kinison.
Sam Kinison in living color.
And then cut to Jamie Foxx sketch.
Bro, that's right.
And we're going to try to get some last-minute instructions from the coach.
We're going to try to get a word from him right now.
Here he comes now.
Coach, can we get a word from you real quick?
Yeah, sure, K.
Now, what did you tell your players before they left the locker room this afternoon?
Well, what I told them was just relax and concentrate and play some ball i mean you know
i don't know the sketches no that's okay it was a great show man so those are in my opinion those
are the two greatest sketch shows oh yeah the cast on that's absolutely insane you think of that cast
just the fly girls is jennifer lopez what? She's like one of the dancing girls?
What kind of a cast do you have?
Doesn't sing, doesn't say anything.
Jennifer Lopez is like, how much talent do they have on that fucking show?
Yeah.
And Kenan was a great fucking talk show host, too.
Kenan made some great movies, and he was great on the Kenan Ivory Wayans show.
He was fun, man.
Fire Marshal Bill was based off of the actual West Hollywood fire marshal.
Yeah, who got burnt up.
Yeah.
It was like an intellectual thing, right?
Yeah.
So Jim Carrey was trying to come up with characters while sitting in the phones room at the comedy store.
It's like a legendary thing that you hear about, at least back when I got hired as a phones guy there.
Because in the hallway that straight down
the hallway there was this old fire hose that at the time it's gone now i'm positive but at the
time it looked like it hadn't been changed in fucking 40 years like this old it would never
work it was like dried up old hose wrapped up and you get told the story uh that uh jim carrey was
sitting at that desk facing down that hallway,
tapping the pencil on his head, trying to come up with more character ideas.
And this burnt up half a hair, cross-eyed, fucking missing his top lip, scars all over, one eye closed.
Guy came in, checking everything in the electrical sockets and putting butter knives in the sides and shit.
And Jim Carrey's just sitting there writing it all down.
Oh, my God.
Oh, God.
The store was such a fun place for chaos and misfits.
Oh, yeah.
We used to always say, we were in the back parking lot,
some schizophrenic person would come back there.
We were like, this place is like a magnet.
It's a magnet for insane people.
Yep.
It really is. all across the board like
the original talent coordinator of the comedy store when when he got fired and then duncan
became the talent coordinator i'm like who the fuck is this guy yeah when i first talked to
started talking to duncan we became friends from conversations we'd have over the phone
because i'd call him like hey, did you hear this Ram Dass thing?
Like he'd just tell me.
Yeah.
And we'd start talking about wild shit.
Dude, he's a fucking genius, bro.
I messaged him yesterday
because Lil Hobo was a guest on Kill Tony
and it was so, so funny.
I loved it.
A lot of people, a lot of the fans hated it
because they didn't like Lil Hobo's voice. But like,'t care but that's reading comments right exactly well no I get my
reports from the producers but yeah basically yeah they told me that they read the comments
exactly yeah don't read the comments but anyway uh but I loved it so much I don't give a fuck
what the masses say so I asked Duncan I go and it's like a leak of information but i don't
care i asked duncan yesterday i go hey i want little hobo to make a video that's gonna air
during the arena like he's taking over the show for a second uh can we come over and shoot just
a quick hour shoot anytime this week you name it we'll show up he goes little hobo's agent is with
caa his name's stephen lebowitz he's been a real Lil Hobo's agent is with CAA. His name's Steven Lebowitz.
He's been a real,
Lil Hobo's been a real diva lately.
And he started sending me AI songs
that he can make in like two minutes
about how I'm not gonna do this
and I'm bigger than everything.
He just sent me one.
He just sent me some AI song.
Oh, they're all hysterical.
I didn't even listen to it.
Should we listen to it here?
Yeah.
Hold on a second. He we listen to it? Yeah
He sent me like seven songs he's like little hobos making an album so he's probably not gonna want to work with you He goes he goes he was complaining the other day that you stole his idea for a variety show
All these texts, okay the healthy lifestyle he said dude I found an AI
That instantly makes songs about anything you want
and made this in less than a minute.
So let's hear it.
I haven't heard it yet. about health, no exaggeration. He wakes up every morning, hits the gym real hard. Lipped the weights,
running miles. He's a health rock star.
But it's not just about the physical.
Nah, it's more than that. He promotes
eating clean. Gotta feel your body fat.
David Lucas is showing us the way.
The box apple, keeping
healthy every day. Gotta eat right.
Gotta exercise, no doubt.
He's the one that's pushing us to work.
It made it less than a minute, he said.
David Lucas eating clean.
Oh, my God. Imagine if David Lucas made a 180.
He's about 480 right now.
But imagine if he made a 180.
It'd be great.
I hope so.
I love it.
I'd love a story like that I mean I'd
get to make fun of all the extra skin hanging off of his body he would think
the jokes would end they would just begin yeah he would have to have an
operation yeah that's a heavy operation to your skin is an organ people don't
like to think about it that way but if your organ has to get cut open and
pieced back together that That's real shit.
That's real shit.
And you run the risk of infection.
And infections can fucking kill you, man.
Like, you shouldn't take that kind of surgery lightly.
One guy apparently avoided that.
And this is like, I don't know if he's like,
see, people have different genetics, apparently,
when it comes to skin, which is why some women get crazy stretch marks and some women don't know if he's like, see, people have different genetics apparently when it comes to skin,
which is why some women get crazy stretch marks and some women don't.
Yeah.
You know, some dudes, they get real fat and then they lose the weight and then they look great and ripped.
And other dudes have all this like weird extra skin.
Even guys that don't lose too much weight, if you lose like 100 pounds or 50 pounds,
like some guys have like crazy extra
skin like dudes that i know and other guys just like you don't look like you're ever fat this is
crazy um so this dude apparently went on a water fast for 365 days he was really fat and um he just
had iv vitamins and water first of all what kind discipline? How do you have the kind of discipline to do that?
He went from 382 days, excuse me, without eating.
Okay.
In 1965, 27-year-old Angus, he fasted for one year and 17 days, ate no food at all,
and lost 125 kilograms, which is 19.7 stone.
Oh, no.
Everyone knows what that is.
Yeah, I have no idea.
125 kilograms is like, I think it's 2.2.
So that would be 300 pounds.
What does that weigh?
What is 125 kilograms in pounds?
It's 2.2.
I think that'd be like 270.
270?
270. Okay? 270.
Okay.
So he lost that much.
So he lost 270 pounds.
Jesus Christ.
He weighed like 480 or something like that.
Okay.
Angus reportedly sick of being obese.
So he checked into the University Department of Medicine at the Royal Infirmary of Dundee.
He weighed 207 kilograms. So that's
440? 450? What is 207 kilograms? Roughly that. 450? He told hospital staff he was ready to cut
out food altogether. So doctors happily agreed to monitor his progress. Oh, so he did it with
the doctors. He's like, I don't want to eat anymore. Wow, that's crazy.
They didn't expect the fast to last long,
but they thought that a short fast would help him to lose some weight.
To compensate for his lack of nutrients, he was prescribed multivitamins to take regularly,
including potassium and sodium, as well as yeast.
As days turned to weeks, Angus's persistence increased
as Scott wanted to reach his reported ideal weight of 180 pounds.
Wow.
So he kept going, much to his doctor's surprise.
Angus would attend hospital visits frequently and often stay overnight.
He received regular blood tests, all which revealed his body was remarkably functioning just fine.
As weeks turned into months, he compensated for his lack of food by drinking more black tea, black coffee, and sparkling water, all of which are calorie-free.
His body began to adapt to the lack of food by burning its own fat stores for energy.
For the last eight months, Angus' blood glucose levels were consistently very low, two millimole
per liter, but Scott did not suffer any adverse effects as a result.
In the final few months, he began to have a pinch of sugar or milk in his tea
and coffee. For those wondering,
he went to the toilet every 40 to
50 days.
He shit every 50 days. What is he
shitting? If you
don't eat for 150
days, what are you shitting?
Angus eventually called it quits
after 382 days, having finally
reached his dream weight of 180 pounds.
Wow.
According to Chicago Tribune report, he had forgotten the taste of food before his first meal after the fast.
He ate a boiled egg with a slice of bread and butter for his first breakfast, telling reporters,
I thoroughly enjoyed my egg and I feel very full.
Wow.
Yeah, that's weird.
I just wonder what happened to him after that, if he kept it off.
He said he died five years later.
He was 192.
He died?
How old was he?
Oh, he remained at a comfortable weight five years later, 196.
So he only gained 16 pounds from eating.
That's pretty amazing. It's weird that they switched to pounds there at the end. Yeah, that is weird. Oh. 196. So he only gained 16 pounds from eating. That's pretty amazing.
It's weird that they switched to pounds there at the end.
Yeah, that is weird.
Yeah.
Is that in an English article?
I don't, I mean.
What's the article?
Diabetes.co.uk.
Yeah, UK.
They're weird over there.
They spell tires with a Y.
Like, what are you doing?
Can we agree?
Isn't this the English language?
Yeah.
We invented tires, bitch.
We did.
America?
Henry Ford.
Really?
I don't know.
Good beer.
BF Goodrich.
Well, Henry Ford invented the car, but I feel like there was a French guy that came along before Henry Ford that invented the internal combustion engine.
Is that correct?
Who invented the internal combustion?
Who invented the very first automobile?
Ford was the first to manufacture it.
Yeah, you just fixed the assembly line.
Right.
Who invented?
I know in Akron, Ohio, they mastered the tire.
They're still kicking them out there.
That's where the big Goodyear factory is.
Yeah.
BF Goodrich.
You know what's really weird about tires?
They haven't figured out a way to not have them be filled with air
and have them perform as good as the ones that are filled with air.
It's a stupid thing.
First commercially successful internal combustion engines created by, say that guy's name. ones that are filled with air it's a stupid thing first commercially
successful internal combustion engines created by say that guy's name it 10
year new around 1860 is that in France is that the French guy I guess we have
four people's names popped up Oh different guys who made it I'm guessing
the guy with the last name Otto probably I like that guy's name. Just because I can't say it.
1860.
Okay, first modern internal combustion engine known as the auto engine.
It's created in 1876.
So one guy created it and the other guy
was like, I could do it better. And then
he made it better, which is what always happens.
Internal combustion engine usually refers to it.
And it's like, that's just what
always happens.
The diesel engine was invented by Rudolph Diesel.
Ooh, that's a good name for it.
Oh, no shit.
Yeah.
Diesel.
I'm wondering if Shaq knows that.
You think he'd change his name?
He's got so many nicknames.
Shaq?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's actually really good at making them up, too.
Yeah, Shaq's the fucking man.
Yeah.
You ever want to feel tiny?
Shake that dude's hand.
It's like shaking a person, like a whole person instead of a hand.
He's so big.
It's insane.
He's so big.
The Rock was huge too.
Yeah.
How fun was it to work out with The Rock?
I called Tony Hinchcliffe at like 10 o'clock in the morning.
I'm like, what are you doing?
It's crazy.
You want to work out with The Rock today?
I was so hungover.
It was hilarious.
I remember I was still on my side when I took the call
because your phone rings a long way to the top
if you want to rock and roll.
I'm like, oh, shit.
What is this going to be?
I'm like, yo.
He's like, you want to work out with The Rock?
I'm like, yes.
He's like, up.
I really feel like sometimes that we're not
really doing this dude it's so funny you mentioned that literally last night in the fucking green room
of the mothership i go i'm talking to hank big hank is sitting there because he's a big sopranos
fan and i go dude i did this podcast with the kids from the Sopranos a few days ago
and it was like we grew up together it was like we're brothers and sisters because we are all
the same age and I kind of lived very different but kind of the same way was living vicariously
that type of life but different but with them growing up it was a show that I could relate to
and I go I think I'm like running out of like cool things to manifest.
Like I can't, I don't even know what's left for me.
And right then Brigham brings in some guy who I don't recognize immediately.
And I shake his hand and I'm like, damn, man, look at you.
I feel like you've killed a lot of people or something like that.
I said, I was just being goofy.
And Brigham goes you know ray
and i realize it's ray mysterio jr one of the greatest wrestlers of all time who i've been
watching for three fucking decades multi-time heavyweight champion and he's famously the small
guy so for me and matt edgar and every fucking guy just under 40 that wasn't huge or like physically gifted.
He was one of our guys.
I mean, that's who you like cheered for.
He was known as the giant killer because he would beat the big guys.
He beat guys that were seven feet tall.
He would shock them doing little guy shit.
And I didn't even recognize him at first.
In my day, there were two guys that I really loved.
The number one guy was Jimmy Superfly Snooker.
Fuck yeah.
Oh, I remember.
And Superfly would get on that top rope,
and he would do this.
Yeah.
And he'd fucking fly off and bodies,
like, what is that called when you land on someone?
It's technically a full body press.
Full body press?
Really?
Actually, the full body press is when you lift him over your head and do that, which you would also do.
So when you throw yourself through the air.
A splash.
So that was Jimmy Superfly's snooker move.
Yeah.
When he would get on the top of everybody and go crazy.
Oh, yeah.
And the other guy was Bob Backlund.
Yeah.
And the reason why I like Bob Backlund, I'm like, I bet Bob Backlund would fuck all these dudes up.
Because I understood technique.
Yeah. I was like, no, no, no, that's a real wrestler.
Like, look how he moves.
He moves like a real wrestler.
All those other guys are doing crazy shit.
Jimmy Superfly snuck a ditty off the fucking top of the cage.
That's so insane.
How bad is that for your knees?
And your back?
And your brain?
Look at the size of him.
He was fucking huge, too.
Oh, yeah.
But get some Bob Backlund.
Show me some Bob Backlund.
Oh, man.
Bob Backlund was a legit wrestler.
He played his role so perfectly because I hated him when I was a kid.
I was part of that last regime where he was still there when I was like three, four, five, six.
And Hogan was just about to beat him and start taking over.
But he was just this old boring with his blue tights and blue knee pads
right and like like a real shoes yeah and i'm just like who is this guy that's what i like
yeah it wasn't my thing as a kid i needed something larger than life no i like that dude
who looks like a regular athlete like this oh yeah this is him way i remember seeing him
but i remember seeing him and like
right away i'm like oh that's a real wrestler that guy's gonna fuck that dude up that's a real
wrestler yeah if you know wrestling like that's what a fucking killer's built like look at like
slugger looking at this guy like what the fuck killers are never built like that except for Brock. Brock is the only guy who's like a killer.
Well, even Alexander Carellon, who's the great,
he wasn't built like a bodybuilder.
What is that move?
It's a fucking insanity.
It's nonsense.
Yeah.
Oh, the old, you mentioned that working in a fight
and everybody just going, oh!
Just tapping your butt.
How about that move?
Why doesn't anybody do that in a fight?
The old sunset flip.
Oh, it didn't work.
I know all the names of these stupid moves, by the way.
However, I do not know these.
This is so entertaining, he gets off.
I can't fucking believe this.
This is such bullshit.
I'm out of here, but he's got to make the 10 count.
Lex Luger's so mad.
He's got to make the 10 count. He's got is so mad. He's got to make the 10 count.
He's got to turn it around.
Look at that glorious haircut he's got.
My God.
If I had hair, I'd grow it like that.
I'd full Theo Vaughn it.
Fuck yeah.
Absolutely.
Come on, you want a piece of me?
Show me some Bob Backlund in his prime.
Yeah.
The first video I pulled up was 1980,
and it was a video of him and Hulk Hogan,
which this is not the Hulk Hogan I know.
He comes out in this giant cape.
Oh, yeah, this is pre-Everybody's a Star.
Hulk Hogan's the fucking man.
Oh, yeah.
How cool was it hanging out with that guy?
Well, so what's interesting is after hanging out with him and The Rock,
it's really interesting to see how blatant his spinal injury is
because you can see after hanging out with The Rock the four or five inches that Hogan lost
because like I showed you when we were in here with Hogan,
their face-off where they're truly eye-to-eye is legendary.
And now they're not.
I met Hulk when he was at full height.
Oh, okay.
I met him outside of a cigar bar in Beverly Hills
in like the 90s, something like that.
It was early on.
I'd only been in Hollywood for a couple years.
And I remember going, Jesus Christ, he was so big.
And then the next time I met him,
did you ever see that UFC thing I did with him?
No.
What did you guys do?
Dude, find that Joe Rogan interviews Hulk Hogan for UFC.
It was when the UFC, like Spike TV, had wrestling on.
And so Hulk Hogan came to do a promo with me and him,
and I got to interview him.
Wow.
Oh, dude, I went full pro wrestling.
Really?
Yes. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me see Wow. Oh, dude, I went full pro wrestling. Really? Yes.
What?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me see it.
Oh, fuck it.
You didn't mention this to me, all the arguments we used to have about pro wrestling.
I went full pro wrestling.
I was in on it.
What?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got to watch how I do it.
Oh my God.
I was like, there's no other way to handle this.
I'm dealing with fucking Hulkamania running wild.
Fuck yeah. What are you going to do? What are you going to handle this. I'm dealing with fucking Hulkamania running wild.
Fuck yeah. What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
When it runs wild on you.
Here it is.
One of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time, sports and entertainment, huge personality, the one and only Hulk Hogan.
Welcome aboard, sir.
How are you?
Thank you, my brother.
You know, to be here with Joe Mania, Dana White, it doesn't get any better than this brother. These guys are going to war out here. It's unbelievable. Now you've
been in some MMA fights before. Are you a UFC fan? Oh I'm a huge fan my brother. I
sure am. Now I understand that you have recently announced a partnership with TNA
Wrestling and its president Dixie Carter and you're gonna be moving to Spike TV.
We're gonna see some Hulkamania on Spike TV.
Tell us more about that.
Well, you know, brother, tonight,
I got a ton of energy.
And I'm partners with Spike.
I'm partners with Dixie Carter.
I'm partners with TNA.
And we just got the green light, brother.
On January 4th, TNA Impact, we're going wide open.
We're going head-on-head.
We're going to battle with the WWD. Monday going to war. TNA Impact. We're going
wide open. We're going to head
on head. We're going to battle
with a W W D Monday night.
January 4th. Hulk Hogan and T
and a we're coming after
everybody. We're coming after
everybody. Now I understand
that you have you recently
released a book. You've done a
wrestling tour in Australia.
When are we going to see Hulk Hogan? Wrestle in TNA. Well, brother, I'm going January 4th. Like I said, Monday night. We're going to
war TNA Impact, but you never
know. I'm going over there to take over.
The maniacs are coming.
All the TNA stars are going to be there.
And you never know when the
old man with the yellow boots might just
step in that ring, brother. Hulk Hogan
is coming back, ladies and gentlemen.
TNA Wrestling live on Spike TV.
Hulk's here for the fights.
You know you want to watch him on TV. What you gonna do, brother?
You're USC.
I went off full on.
That's the good question.
Thank you very much, sir.
I love that. That's amazing.
You led that interview well,
too. Those were some short answers from him
up front. Right back to it. That was good.
Yeah, those are always weird.
Yeah, I'm a fan.
Okay.
Yeah, the weird Spike TV interviews.
Yeah.
I did one with Sylvester Stallone once, too.
It was good.
It's an interesting position that you make look easy, interviewing those guys after fights,
interviewing people with these huge personalities.
Look at them.
See what I'm saying?
They're eye to eye.
And there's no desantis boots
in this by the way they're actually that height back in the day look at that yeah hulk lost like
four inches and meanwhile when we were working out with the rock it was literally like oh it was
crazy he's built like he's gigantic he looks like a superhero in a movie all the time all the time
yeah just when he walks in you look at at him like, what's the size of this guy? Yeah, everything looks small in his hand.
But meanwhile, couldn't be nicer, couldn't be more humble.
So cool.
He's a good dude.
He's a good dude.
Good dude to hang out with.
I'm going to give a little behind the scenes here.
I was in a sauna at 185 degrees sitting in between The Rock and Joe Rogan.
So for those of you that grew up without a father, you still have a chance, everybody.
So many laughs in that sauna across from Shane and Ahsan.
I thought it was really cool, too, that we decided, like, we don't have to film this.
Let's just have fun.
Yeah, exactly.
Let's just have fun.
Because I know he films a lot of stuff for social media.
I go, let's just, let's just, he goes, I love it.
I was like, yeah, let's just hang out.
And it was so cool.
It was really fun. Yeah. It was fun. And it let let's just, he goes, I love it. I was like, yeah, let's just hang out. And it was so cool. It was really fun.
Yeah.
It was fun.
And he let me like dictate the whole workout.
I had a whole workout planned out.
I'm like, let's just, let's have some fun.
Yeah.
We did a real fucking workout.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
It was real.
I was sore.
Everyone was sore for a week after that.
Yeah.
We did the Tabatas on the bag at the end.
Yeah.
It was fun.
It was fun.
And then The Rock did three minutes in the cold plunge.
First time he had ever been in a cold plunge.
Yeah.
Which is very impressive.
Yeah.
It was my first time.
I was like, get me out of here.
Like, what the fuck?
And I did three minutes, 10 seconds,
only because I knew I could do longer than The Rock
in a sauna and have bragging rights in the sauna
for 20 minutes.
You got to be in the sauna with Brian Simpson.
He's always looking for a way to get out.
Oh, I forgot my socks
your socks
you don't need your socks
Brian's always got like some
fucking new reason to get out of the sauna
he's so funny
he's gotta sneeze
he is so funny
with all that shit
he got in the other day with his workout clothes on.
I go, you're going to sit in the sauna with your clothes on?
He goes, yeah, I should probably take them off.
And then he gets out.
And I told him at the end, we were like, you got to stay an extra 30 seconds, bro.
Yeah.
This is bullshit.
You keep leaving.
He's a sly dog.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
I caught him sneaking a cookie the other day out of that eddie
bees bag in the green room i've been eating clean i'm at four days no carbs i walk in he's just got
a cookie it's so funny to keep an eye on because i love it you know i like i know my vices right
i know i smoked too many cigarettes i know i drink too much coffee whatever they may
be right i have a couple drinks every night but he's funny because it's like and i love those
people david lucas exactly the same thing you know what i mean i lost 35 pounds every time
we were in the green room the other day i go how do you know i go did you have a fucking
supermarket scale at your house the The fuck are you talking about?
My scale didn't go that high.
There's no way you know how much you weigh.
You're not investing in that kind of property, that kind of machinery.
Oh, God, it kills me.
How much does a regular scale goes to 300 pounds?
Right.
Right?
Yeah, no, we actually-
Joey used to talk about that.
I can't get on a fucking regular scale, Joe Rogan.
It's time to lose weight. When he first got on Weight Watchers Joey was like fucking regular scales don't work
Yeah, we were doing fat people weigh-ins live on kill Tony at one point
And we have a scale now that goes up to four, but it's very hard to find it very
Yes, they're like rare and that ain't gonna work either right like what Ralphie Megan got on it, right?
Yeah, someone's bigger than that you need like a supermarket scale. Yeah, they put sides of beef on shit
Yeah, did you see those there's like these five or four fitness influencers that are
Like not fitness influencers body positive influencers that are telling people like, you know, you
can be as fat as you want.
They're all dead.
They all died.
Like within Blair, Blair White has here, I'll send it to you, Jamie.
Blair White has this clip.
It's fucking, it's, it's mean, but it's also hilarious because it's just like, oh God,
like, yeah, it's not good to be that big kids.
Just not like no matter what anybody tells you, if you have a fat doctor, no matter who it is,
that's just a massive strain on your body that you really don't need.
You shouldn't have.
It's not something that's normal.
It's something that's insane.
It's something that's only existed with human beings over the last, you know, 50, 60 years.
People were never that big.
Jesus Christ.
I was at a Starbucks at the airport this weekend in Florida.
And one of the baristas was double masked.
And I could just see the top of her head because she was like behind the espresso machine.
And it looked like a thick head.
And then she, and I'm like, because, you know, I'm intrigued by the entire thing.
I see a double mask.
I'm like, what's going on here? Then she moved away for a second to go grab another cup,
and she was huge, hugely, massively obese.
And I'm like, oh, okay.
All right, so.
Did you find it?
Yeah, there it is.
Thank you.
Double mask, but unhealthy as fuck.
But the Instagram one is funny because it's like, he's dead.
She's dead. They're dead.
I'm trying to find it.
I swore I saved it.
I love that you can save things
on Instagram
because Tom Segura
and I have this thing we do every day.
We send each other the worst shit we find.
It's a real problem because neither one of us is going to tap out.
Everyone is trying to find the most fucked up things.
Instagram is – they're showing you some of the most fucking insane things.
Oh, yeah.
They're showing you so many insane things.
Oh, I love it.
Murders, car accidents, people getting crushed at construction sites.
Like, God damn.
Yeah.
There's so much.
Here it is.
I found it, Jamie.
They are.
They're on a whole new level.
But I don't understand how it's getting through.
Like, they must know that all that stuff is being shared,
but they must also
know that they're getting so many clicks
from that, that they have to
allow it to stay on.
They have to. They must know.
It's being shared like crazy.
Tom and I are like, every day,
dude. Yeah, me and Adam Eget,
me and Yoni, I have a ton of them.
Shane.
Shane's the fun one anything
he's dead join me on my fat positive radio show which didn't last long because she died
just because i'm fat that doesn't invalidate the things that i said she died
you ready to get supersized she died too Yeah that's it
He's dead
Jesus Christ
It's real people need to see that
It's one of the worst things
Being overweight is one of the worst things for your health
It's a constant tax on your body
If we're all born with the same size heart
And you have to lug around all that shit
And other people don't,
it's pretty blatant.
Also,
if you lose the weight,
you'll have amazing leg muscles.
I was saying that to Stavros
and he showed me his calves.
Stavros' calves
are like watermelons.
Yeah.
They're giant.
He's got calves on those cows.
Yeah.
He's a big boy.
Yeah.
He's a big fella.
Sweating.
If you're carrying around
that much extra weight,
like, boy,
if you lost the weight, you'd be so fit.
You'd be so strong.
You'd get into Muay Thai, be fucking people up.
He's into pad thai.
You can't help yourself.
It's always there.
That's so quick.
Oh, man.
We just mass taped a bunch of episodes of Kill Tony
so that we could take a few weeks off after these arenas and so I'm
in like yeah zip zip zip yeah full-on oh yeah you do two last night yeah two last night and to the
night before some epic moments perhaps one of the greatest and this is me tooting my own horn but
one of my greatest interviews ever with a big trans uh comedian like a hefty looks like
a hundred percent like just like a big woman steps up and goes hey so uh here we go and like
the whole room has its attention where at first we were funny um very new very very very new but i
will say this is rolled with everything it's it's an epic
interview because i'm going pretty hard because she's laughing at everything and i find it to be
like okay we have this and everybody wanted it and everybody needed it and it makes her look good
and everyone won but there was a part where i literally go, so I gotta ask, and this might be disrespectful,
what direction are we going here?
What did you start as and what are you going for?
I know you're trans, but like, I don't even
know.
Is this boy to girl, girl to boy?
Oh man, and she's laughing too.
She knows what's up.
I'm sure you're aware of this,
but that lady got arrested
who was on your show saying that she stormed the Capitol.
Yeah.
The feds came and got her.
They're like, oh, yeah?
I found out about this last night in the middle of a show, but didn't even have time to think about it or read the articles.
Yeah, they're going hard after people that went into the Capitol.
Red Band mentioned that it may have been because of our show.
It is because of your show.
Really?
Yes.
Yeah, that's how the feds are
watching the show oh my shout out to the fbi i swear to god i wasn't there i wouldn't go there
i'm not into that it's not my thing damn that's wild oh man i got her in well she got her in
trouble yeah it's um not good to brag about breaking into the fucking capital um i was first
wave upstairs she shouted the microphone january 6th video footage shows i took a little pepper
spray i didn't think i'd ever be sprayed by cops in my own country i support the police arrest
warrant states the fbi confirmed the couple's identity through cell phone and credit card
records flight and hotel bookings and physical physical surveillance of their Santa Ynez home.
They failed their homes.
In June, Jones defended her actions while speaking at a comedy show in Austin.
Jones said she did not do anything that she thought was illegal.
She only entered a public section of the building, not a private office or any other restricted area.
I've been to the Capitol multiple times.
There's never been any reason not to go in
Well, that's just that's just dumb
That's just being dumb if you see a mob storming into the Capitol like
Don't go in there
Don't go in there because didn't they arrest people that didn't go in I think so. Yeah
Well, they put that one dude in jail from InfoWars. What is his name? Owen?
Owen, I forget how to pronounce his last name.
But I think he went to jail for like seven months.
And he was never even there.
What did he go to jail for?
Two months.
Was he sentenced for seven months?
Or was it 70 days?
The prosecutors said he, quote, helped create by spewing violent rhetoric
and spreading baseless claims of election fraud to hundreds of thousands of viewers.
Wow.
Plead guilty to illegally entering a restricted area.
What area is that?
So did he go into the Capitol?
Says he didn't enter the Capitol, but he let them march to the building and led rioters and chants.
Yeah.
Hmm.
led rioters and chants.
Yeah.
Hmm.
He's only said this.
He's among only a few people charged in the riot who neither went inside the building nor were accused of engaging in violence or destruction.
Here's where he fucked up.
Should have joined the FBI first.
If he joined the FBI and then did that, they'd be like, good job.
Got everybody to go in there.
Crazy.
I don't know what's going to happen next.
The reason why I didn't get to read about that article is because when I checked the news right before bed after a long night last night,
all I could see was that Colorado voted to have Trump off the ballot.
There's so much wild shit going on.
That there, and I rarely am like, oh, no, with the news.
But that one there scares me.
The guy that did Ex Machina just did a new movie called Civil War.
That's coming out.
That's exactly what I pictured.
Have you seen the trailer?
Let's play the trailer because it looks dope.
And that Ex Machina guy, what is his name, Jamie?
Alex Garland.
He's the shit.
That Ex Machina is one of my all-time favorite movies.
That movie gives me the creeps every time I watch it yeah because I'm like if I was
that guy and that robot was talking to me I get seduced too yeah she's so hot
she's so hot and she knows that a bullet strings
the White House issued warnings to the Western forces as well as the Florida
Alliance the three-term president assures the uprising will be dealt with swiftly.
Let me know if you want to try anything.
I'm just aware there's like a pretty huge civil war going on all across America.
We just try to stay out with what we see on the news.
Seems like it's for the best.
Citizens of America, the so-called Western forces of Texas and California,
have suffered a very great defeat at the hands of the United States military.
Mr. President, do you regret the use of airstrikes against American citizens?
We're moving to DC today.
We need to go down there.
They shoot journalists on sight in the Capitol.
Every instinct in me says this is death.
What if?
Every time I survived the war zone,
I thought I was sending a warning home.
Don't do this.
But here we are.
There's some kind of misunderstanding here.
What?
We're American, okay?
Okay.
What kind of American are you?
You don't know?
Oh, boy.
Yeah, bro.
This can really happen.
You tell me that dude who said, what kind of American are you?
You tell me he doesn't have a Trump flag on his truck?
What are you doing?
Those are the people with the guns. you're picking a fight with them if you really think if they really think rather that you're trying to steal the government they really
think you're trying to subvert democracy yeah by using the 14th amendment which is insurrection
which i believe check this make sure this is correct. I believe they created that amendment because of the Civil War.
And I believe they created that amendment to keep people that fought against the Union Army from holding elected office.
I'm pretty sure that's what it was.
Former officers of the Confederate Army.
I think anybody who was in the Confederate Army.
I think anybody who was in the insurrection.
Like say if you, I think even if you were a soldier i think it was to stop that yeah which is why the meanwhile it's a it's a legal term again i don't know if you know this but i'm
not a legal scholar right all right um i think the term is very specific, like what it means. So Trump has neither been indicted nor convicted for insurrection.
Right.
But if you're pulling him off the ballot for insurrection, that seems crazy.
And again, it's like, of course, every other state with a Democratic or liberal-leaning Supreme Court is going to follow this lead.
They don't want to be behind Colorado.
They're going to go, we have to show America that we're more woke than, we're more aware
than Colorado.
Let's do this.
If that happens, that's a very scary thing.
That's very scary.
Because regardless of what you think about Trump as a personality and this air quotes threat to democracy, what is democracy if it's not people having the ability to choose an elected leader?
What is democracy?
Like what are you saying?
Threat to what?
If you are literally subverting democracy because you think someone's
a threat to democracy you're a threat to democracy 100 just by what you're doing yeah you just
because people believe that this one person is absolutely that's the whole reason why people
have elections one case one group has to make a case that they would be better leaders and they
have a better plan they have a better
plan. They have a better path forward for America. If you think they're wrong,
the whole idea of democracy is you're supposed to have a better case. That's what the debates
are for. That's what the campaign trail is for. And when they stand in front of the people
and they tell the people, when I become president, I will fix this and I will fix that.
And everybody goes, yay.
That's what they're doing.
Now, if you're saying that they can't do that, that's a threat to democracy.
If you're saying they can't state their case, if you're saying they literally can't be on the ballot.
Right.
Because it's insane.
Yeah.
And four out of seven chose that.
Four said yes, three said no.
It's crazy.
Is that correct?
Three or two?
Three said yes, two said no?
It was four to three.
Four to three.
So four said yes, three said no.
Check an article the BBC put out.
What does it say?
For now, this only is for the state's primary election.
It's going to probably be held up in court for appeals past the deadline, which is January 4th.
So it might not matter.
Why would it not matter?
Because it wouldn't affect his ability to be on the primary ballot, according to what this is saying.
If it doesn't go in effect until January 4th and then it's held up in court because of an appeal,
then they can't block him from being on that ballot.
It's also not for the presidential ballot,
which would be in November.
It's one thing if there was no allegations
of criminal activity from the current president.
If the current president is someone like Barack Obama,
who is a way better president by everyone's account,
the way he holds, whether or not you believe his policies, whether or not you think that he did a
good job with whatever, with drone attacks and, you know, whistleblowers, all the things that he
said he was going to do that he didn't do. Put that aside, just as a spokesperson, just as a
representative of the country, a guy smarter than us, who's out there, speaks measured and calm, a real statesman.
But you don't even have that.
You got this guy who's-
Dead shell of an old seashell.
And on top of that, there's a bunch of shit that he's involved with that looks super sketchy.
A bunch. Oh, yeah. A bunch of things. Oh, with that looks super sketchy a bunch oh yeah a bunch of
things oh yeah there's so many business dealings the money that we've given to ukraine is just
crazy and i we weren't really hearing of ukraine until before he was president his son's dealings
with ukraine and then all this stuff with uk Ukraine starts happening and they get hundreds and hundreds
and hundreds of billions of dollars? I think it's over a hundred billion, but here's a question
because someone was, they were just talking about this today. Are we really funding a portion of
their government? Are we funding our, as American taxpayers, I think what this person was saying was
that we are funding a percentage of their schools, their elected officials.
We're funding a certain percentage of that, too.
We're keeping their government afloat.
Seems like it.
I mean, who wouldn't move some money from that account into other accounts?
No, but I think that's part of the deal.
That's like above board.
Forget about what's happening where money's getting siphiphoned off so it's like known that we're funding
their government I think so that's what this person was saying I don't know if
it's correct that's why Jamie's gotta get on it but it's um one of those
things where it's like wait a minute when does this end is this another one
of them 20-year deals is another this another one of those Afghanistan deals?
Have you ever seen the breakdown of the amount of money that we spent in Ukraine
and what that could have done for America?
It's insane.
It could have given everyone in Maui, like everyone who lost their home,
some insane amount of money, rebuilt Maui many times over.
It could have fixed all of our infrastructure.
It could have secured the wall.
It could have, there's like so much money that have gone into education, homelessness,
all these different problems that we have in America that are like key problems
that keep coming up over and over and over again. It makes you wonder. It really does. Because if they really did spend
a hundred and whatever billion dollars in Ukraine that they could have spent in America,
what if someone did that? What if someone said, yeah, I know this is going to raise taxes. I know
this is going to raise inflation. But if we spend this money in America and we fix all these problems, the next generation coming up, we've showed statistically we will be 20 percent better off.
We'll have 20 percent less crime.
We'll have 20 percent less incarcerations. They could come up with some number that they could show you. Everybody would be kind of like, yeah, taxes are more,
but this is a real plan to actually rebuild America.
And there's discussions of it on the news every day.
There's people like, fuck rebuilding America.
What we need to do is this and that and that and this
and green energy and all this shit.
If there was that and this was our dispute,
how much better would the world be?
Yeah.
It would take a businessman who's like anti-war and could bring like peace to the Middle East and have all the other crazy world leaders in check.
Yeah.
Do you see Vivek Ramaswamy?
You know who that could be?
Oh, yeah.
Van Jones.
Oh, yeah.
Listen to his speech was saying that it's like he's going to be around 50 years longer than Trump.
And so he does a speech.
He goes, Van Jones, shut the fuck up.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, boy.
And when I saw that, I'm like, more of this, dude.
Trump opened up the door to that kind of shit.
He really did.
When there was no politicians before Trump that you ever even heard swear.
Yeah.
When Trump was talking about China,
he goes, you can say, you know,
we want to negotiate, we want to do this,
or you can say, listen, motherfucker.
People are like, yes, talk like a real person.
Yes.
Talk like a real person.
Yeah.
That's what the world is missing,
people talking like real people.
Right.
Obama was such a good politician such a good people speaker that it kind he kind of like
beat the video game now we need a new video game you know what i mean and trump was that a real
human have you seen uh where they face swapped that lady who's the White House press secretary
with Obama? No. It's when she's talking about how there is no evidence at all that Obama is
secretly running the government. It's simply not true. And it's her face swap with Obama.
Let me see if I can find it. I'm pretty sure I saved it.
I'm really good at saving all these stupid posts I find every day.
This is why I can't be on this phone.
This phone has a- I didn't even know you could do that.
I go a long way because I'm like an old man on Instagram.
So I mail them to myself.
That works too.
But you can have little folders.
Like I have little folders.
I've had folders for conspiracies.
Is that what that like bookmark looking thing is?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, you click that.
Where is it?
What do I have it under?
I think I have it under government.
I have too many categories.
I have disasters.
The disasters one is insane. There's so many disasters that you can find on the internet now
yeah i'm trying to find i like uh i think it's thieves getting fucked or robbers getting fucked
where people try to steal things and they run into like a cashier with a gun oh those are always fun
yeah i have an entire folder dedicated to kamala harris oh yeah
all the most ridiculous shit she says everything she can't even she can't do anything has she ever
said anything not crazy oh this is hysterical yeah there oh you found it jamie thank you so please
i mean obama be the hidden puppet master for this administration but there's no evidence
there's wait wait there's no evidence there's no evidence that obama is joe's puppet master for this administration, but there's no evidence. Wait, wait, there's no evidence.
There's no evidence that Obama is Joe's puppet master.
There's none.
Absolutely none.
None.
And that is just a fact.
You can't say that it looks like my hair is the dirty mop the janitor is looking for.
You can't say that it looks like I lazily slapped on some of Big Mike's lipstick and horrific.
AI.
That's wild.
AI is insane.
I mean, we are going to have no idea what's real or what's fake within a couple of years.
Yeah.
We don't know.
We just don't know.
Right.
You could have everything from people crying about a crime that never committed. Like you could have like a disaster that's fake and a bunch of fake people crying about that disaster and telling their story of what happened.
And they're not even real people.
It's all CGI.
You're going to be able to – like there's no telling.
Committing crimes, natural disasters right you're never going to know
speaking of natural disasters do you see that um video uh they got a volcano camera that's pointed
at this camera in iceland and they caught it the moment the volcano erupted oh it's wild
iceland has some volcano sun and they pop They popped a few years back
Remember the flights were fucked up
And no one could fly
You remember that?
In Iceland?
Yeah
When the problem is
When they eject all that stuff
Into the atmosphere
You can't see
Right
So it takes like a long time
For that stuff to go down
Where people can fly
Watch this, watch this watch
this it's really cool the volcano yeah boom look at that that's it poppin isn't that amazing Wow
they caught the moment it blew so it's spraying and the video of it going down the mountainside
this is the video of it going down the mountainside. How amazing is that, man? That's crazy. The literal blood of the earth pouring out of a fucking staph infection.
Oh, my God.
Look at that.
Isn't that incredible?
Unbelievable.
That's how continents are made, kids.
Wow.
That's how Hawaii got made.
These dudes are just chilling.
It goes off every couple of years.
So what happened was that volcano went off
and there was a Rolling Stone reporter
that was embedded, I think it was in Iraq,
and they got too comfortable with this dude being around
and they start, because he was there, he was stuck
because he couldn't fly out.
So he was there a lot longer than he was supposed to be.
And he reported a bunch of shit that they had said about Obama.
Is that Mount St. Helens?
Oh, that's the other one?
It's the 2010 eruption.
Yeah, so this was when it happened.
Wow.
I don't know how to say that.
What was the guy's name?
The reporter, Michael?
Hastings.
Hastings.
So he reported that this general was being very dismissive of Obama and insulting Obama.
And he printed it in the Rolling Stone.
And so this general had to resign.
And so when this general resigned, this guy Hastings was fucked.
He's fucked.
Right.
And he starts saying, hey, I think people are following me.
I think people are trying to kill me.
He was still in Iraq at the time?
No, no, no.
He came back to America.
So he was saying that, you know.
And then his car goes 125 miles an hour on Sunset Boulevard right into a tree.
Yeah.
He had an electric car, right?
No.
There was no electric cars back then.
Or it was.
McChrystal's exit.
Yeah, volcanic intervention.
So the volcano blew up and this guy got stuck there.
It says the runaway general is the title of this story.
And so this guy, Michael Hastings, this is like the conspiracy theory.
Yeah.
Because his car goes 125 miles an hour right into a tree boom and blows up the engine was like it wasn't like a regular accident like it was a big one like it was a big
accident and either he did it on purpose like he was trying to kill himself like this is it
is a video of it i mean this dude this dude is fucking flying down the street.
Tony, for your reference, it's in LA off La Brea.
Headed down La Brea, off of Santa Monica.
Look at that.
Look how fast he's going.
Boom.
He hit one of those giant palm trees.
It's in the middle of the road there.
And look at that explosion.
It wasn't a self-
I thought it was on Sunset.
No, no, he was going down La Brea South, I believe.
Okay. It wasn't a self-driving car? No, no, no, no, no, no. But it was on Sunset. No, no, he was going down La Brea South, I believe. Okay.
It wasn't a self-driving car?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
But it was a Mercedes.
2010, they didn't have them then.
No, but what they did have is technology that would allow...
They had computers in cars back then.
And so the question was, do we have the technology to take over someone's car?
All you'd have to do is just make it accelerate. You wouldn't necessarily have to point it towards a tree oh yeah you
just have it go 120 miles an hour if you don't care about the hits yeah if you
don't care about the other people which say it's the middle of the night which I
think this was right yeah you just hit it yeah and then all of a sudden this
guy can't slow his car down it's impossible so the car that it takes over
the engine takes over the engine.
You don't have to be able to steer it.
You don't have to have self-steering technology.
You just have to control the accelerator.
Oh, yeah.
And if you have a computer, if the car is run by a computer, was this a 2010 car?
What kind of car was it?
I believe it was a...
I'll have to check now.
Hold on.
I want to say it was a Mercedes.
I know it was a Mercedes, but I don't know the actual year the car was.
Listen, they had that ability back then.
They had the ability to do that to the enemy.
If you're in Afghanistan or whatever and you want to make someone's car, you could rig it like that.
I'm sure they could do that.
Yeah.
I mean, if there's a computer in the car, 2010 is not that long ago.
Seems like it is. 13 years. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if there's a computer in the car, 2010 is not that long ago. Seems like it is.
13 years.
Yeah.
13 years ago is crazy to think that technology has moved so far from 13 years ago.
Like if it was today, you would say 100% they could do that.
Yeah.
But I think they could do that 13 years ago.
And so that was the big conspiracy theory that they whacked this dude because he got McChrystal fired.
Damn. Which theystal fired. Damn.
Which they probably did.
Yeah.
They can. And the more
we find out, the more it seems
like that stuff happens quite a bit.
And then there was some talk about his blood
work. They did blood work on Hastings
after he's dead and he tested positive for amphetamines.
But the dirty secret about
journalists is a lot of them are on Adderall.
A lot of them.
It's how they make deadlines.
For the guys that I know that have taken it, they've been pretty forthcoming about it and
said, it's a life changer.
It's just like, I get so much shit done.
Of course, you're on meth.
You're on amphetamines.
So they were saying that he was on amphetamines.
He was just cranked out of his mind, and he did that on purpose, which is a possibility.
You fucking never know.
Sometimes if people think the government's trying to kill him, maybe they crack under pressure.
Yeah.
And they just fucking, I can't take this anymore.
I'm just going to drive into a tree.
That's a weird way to kill yourself.
It is, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.
But also, if you wanted to have a juicy conspiracy narrative,
you wanted to go all Sam Tripoli on that.
Yeah.
Very suspicious.
Yeah, it's very suspicious.
Especially since he could have killed himself going full Joe versus the volcano, right?
That would have been the classy way to do it when he had a chance.
Well, he wasn't near the volcano.
Right.
Yeah, if he wanted to take a flight over,
yeah, he can't.
Yeah, but he wasn't,
he didn't know that they were going to come for him
after that.
But that's what they do in that world.
They try to take things down.
You know, if you're a journalist
and you're embedded with these guys
and they say something juicy,
you can take them down with this juicy thing.
This is just what you do.
Whether or not it's good for the country or not.
And that guy was beloved.
Apparently he was just a great general.
And now all of a sudden he's not a general anymore because of a reporter.
And who are his people?
The people that are like the professional killers of the world that are legally allowed to kill people?
And secretly.
Yeah. Guess what, fuckface? You kill people. And secretly. Yeah.
Guess what, fuckface?
Yeah.
You just made a big mistake.
Yeah.
Like, I wish I was his friend.
I know that's what your job is, but you can make a juicy article just about how hard it
is over there and how crazy it is over there.
Wouldn't that be better?
Yeah.
Wouldn't it be better to, like, instead of, like, some backhanded shit that he's saying
to the troops, which they all believe anyway. Like, what do you care?
Yeah.
Don't report that, dude.
You're going to get him in trouble.
Why would you get that guy in trouble?
Man.
It's just such a dangerous game you're playing.
It is wild.
It makes me worry about, you know,
I mean, Trump is such a threat,
supposedly, to the military that wants to do things, and he wants to bring them back, which he's proven time and time again.
And, like, I don't know.
There's a fucking hilarious video of Rosie O'Donnell.
She put up, like, she was watching the UFC.
She goes, I'm watching the UFC, and then Trump comes on and ruins it.
Come on, UFC. You got to do better comes on and ruins it. Come on, UFC.
You got to do better.
She's so bad.
Thank you, Rosie.
She's so bad.
Everyone at the UFC cares about your opinion.
It's not just having that opinion, which is like, I get it, because he said a lot of fucked up things about Rosie.
He ruined her.
She's gone because of him.
When Megyn Kelly was saying that you've said all these disparaging things about not all women, just Rosie O'Donnell. Boom. Boom. She was done. It's like. Yeah. Because of him. When Megyn Kelly was saying that you've said all these disparaging things about,
not all women, just Rosie O'Donnell.
Boom.
Boom.
She was done.
It's like a comic.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like literally a Kill Tony guest.
Yeah.
But have you found the video of her saying it?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I haven't listened to it.
I think it's this one.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
Ugh, look at her.
I like Rosie.
All you racist MAGA people. No, no, this isn't it. He's killing coverage. No, that's not it. That's not it. That's it. Ugh, look at her. I like Rosie. All you racist MAGA people.
No, no, this isn't it.
He's killing Cov-
No, that's not it.
It's-
It's-
It's for that.
So, maybe she deleted it or something.
She might have deleted it.
She might have deleted it.
That was a hard one, man.
Because Leon, at the end of the fight, when he was talking about his dad, he was almost
crying when he was talking about him, you know, taking his father's murder and turning it into entertainment.
And his voice was cracking.
I was like, oh, shit, don't make me cry, Leon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Trump just arrived at the UFC 296 because he loves Colby Covington.
Donald Trump's the biggest.
It was the UFC.
Do better.
I love that.
Why did they all look alike?
Why do all these...
Why does she look exactly like Keith Olbermann?
She doesn't.
Keith Olbermann's way more insane than her.
He's insane.
Did you see Keith Olbermann went after Riley Gaines?
Who's Riley Gaines?
Riley Gaines is that lady that lost to Leah Thomas.
The one who...
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
So she's the real like winner, female winner.
Yeah.
And this male competes as a female and beats her.
And so Keith Oberman said some ridiculous shit about she doesn't have any athletic accomplishments.
And so she makes a video in response showing all the awards that she's won.
She's like a serious fucking accomplished
athlete. She's an amazing athlete.
But for this insane
fuck to say this, but you gotta see the
video because it's pretty amazing.
He used to be so long ago
but he was part of that essential
sports center
crew, the glory days
of ESPN. Him, Stuart was great Dan Patrick it was a
dream team and I would love to know what fucking soup he's been eating or what is in his diet
oh he's vegan oh is he yeah ah yeah there's clearly sometimes there's things where it's like sometimes there's just things
where it's like don't you see don't you see yeah duh you know a big one and i know we're switching
subjects here but a big one that i saw two days ago and i didn't even send it to you because i'm
like i can't even i have to talk with you about this is canada's overall life expectancy yes that might be the craziest statistic in the world
right now you've seen this right yes since 1930 of course it goes this way this way this way this
way because you fucking live longer because fucking technology and medicine and then 2020 levels and then it starts to go down
it's down two and a half years since 2020 which is unheard of yeah unprecedented what could that
possibly be from i don't know tony weird so strange it's not like there was a gigantic
medical intervention that was forced upon the population during that time period again and
again and booster and booster and booster
And you know that say or you're a conspiracy theorist. Yes, people are they're in a fucking trance because
being on the side of reality and facts is
So against the narrative that the Liberals were correct that they're willing to ignore
Excess deaths that were willing to ignore an increase in all cause mortality. That's shocking.
Yeah.
They're willing to ignore it.
And they're the trust the science people, but only when it leans to their favor.
The science says there's something terrible that happened.
I stumbled into this group of people talking on Twitter about, I'm always going to call it Twitter.
I try to X for a while.
Yeah, it's impossible.
What am I doing?
Am I tweeting or am I X-ing?
What am I doing?
It doesn't make any sense.
But there was a bunch of people
that were talking about masking and boosting.
And this is the reason why,
even though they've got COVID five times,
every time they get it, it's fairly mild.
Last time I was only sick for a week.
I'm like, what are you talking about? They're not reading the news at all. I think it's baby boomers.
You know, Robert F. Kennedy was talking about that. Bobby Kennedy Jr. was talking about that.
He was saying baby, he was talking to Patrick Bet-David. He was saying that baby boomers
are the ones who believe all the bad things about him because they get their news only from TV.
We know a Texan.
We know a guy.
We know a guy.
Boy, I get him all the time now.
Oh, me too.
Yeah, we corner him now with facts.
Well, that one seems like a conspiracy.
That one seems like a conspiracy.
Is that true?
Yeah, this is. Did you know that we're gonna turn him it's gonna be
a glorious day when he comes in like in yeah one day in the center when they just catch him in the
right mood it is exactly that by the way call me crazy but i trust the news yeah and it's it's such a slippery dangerous road and it totally is that my mom's 76 and like
she listens to me of course everything but some of those things she's like you gotta be kidding
me tony you don't really think he's a good president i'm like look but everybody's got
money these are there's no war right now you're not seeing any of this and then boom there's biden and fucking a cantaloupe
is 23 or whatever but uh what was like oh man uh fuck i just said something i wanted to say and i
lost it oh i clicked on this article from cnn yesterday because i still love going to cnn.com just to see what fucking chaos they're pushing
and and sure enough there's a good one on the number two or three spot that says new uh covid
strain dominating the northeast and i click on it and i because i'm like okay yeah okay let's see
and it's dominating what it's actually doing is it's just a new,
obviously the evolution of the strain,
and it just jumped the main strain that was above it.
It's a natural thing that happens all the time.
But because it's the new main strain,
which is always changing, right?
The new one is always jumping the old one.
Now it's dominating.
This new strain is dominating the Northeast, which is just, they're just saying that that's taken over.
But the headline doesn't say that, right?
The headline looks like, oh, here it comes.
Buckle down for the holidays again.
It's so interesting that people can't see that these people, even the baby boomers can't see still what's happening.
It's a cold now.
Okay.
So if it's a cold now, imagine if the news freaked you out every time the cold was going around.
Yep.
Do you know how nuts that would be?
If the news was telling you that you had to get an experimental medical intervention every time the cold came around.
Yeah.
Even though you keep catching the cold.
And the news never tells you, hey, you got to lose weight.
The news never tells you, hey, time to get in shape.
Hey, time to start taking vitamins.
Hey, time to start sleeping better.
Hey.
Drink a lot of water.
The news doesn't tell you that.
It tells you you only have to get chemicals.
Chemicals injected into your body.
That's the only way you can fix this. We to get chemicals. Chemicals injected into your body.
That's the only way you can fix this.
We have to just keep injecting chemicals into our body.
It's the only way to get better.
And now a commercial from Burger King.
Right after that.
Brought to you by Pfizer.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's wild.
But boomers, they grew up with the news.
They never really got into the internet unless they get into facebook groups
yeah i read another crazy statistic today that uh i think it's like 13 to 35 year olds are off of facebook it was 77 10 years ago down to like 30 today the only dude i know uses facebook's my
friend tommy jr and he's 50. I could see why Tommy Jr. would be on Facebook.
Tommy's always on Facebook.
I don't even have Instagram.
I don't even use it.
He's going to come on the podcast.
We're going to do a podcast together.
Oh, that's going to be great.
Yeah.
He's one of my longest running friends.
We've been friends for 30 years.
Yeah.
I knew that dude when he was 19 and I was 24 that's when we met he's so
fun to watch play pool just a real uh what at boston slash new yorkers slash connecticut yeah
connecticut that's what new york that's what connecticut is you nailed it without nailing it
yeah like connecticut really is like boston and new york had a kid yeah it's like half italian
half irish whatever it is you know it's like that's what Connecticut is.
It's a combination of Boston.
He would love the sweatsuit that I'm rocking right now.
But Tommy Jr.'s got his own accent.
When he comes on the podcast, people are going to go,
oh, shit, that's maybe my best impression is Tommy Jr.
Oh, yeah.
He's great.
Hey, you got any of that good stuff?
We smoking?
We smoking?
What are we doing? Going to We smoking. What are we doing?
Gonna hit something?
What are we doing?
Yeah.
There's a picture I took of Tommy Jr. when we all did a show together in Atlantic City.
Remember?
And he had, Atlantic City had weed stores.
Yeah.
And he took a, I think it was like a 250 milligram edible we're eating.
See if you can find that photo of Tommy Jr. baked out of his mind.
Look at it.
How is it?
300 milligrams?
What does it say underneath it?
300.
300 milligrams.
Look at him.
Dude, don't leave me.
Stay close.
Do you mind if we hold hands?
I've been friends with that dude forever.
Forever and ever.
So much fun.
Yeah.
So fun.
That's my boy.
Yeah.
And he would have been like a legit top of the food chain pool player if he didn't retire because he realized there was no future in it.
If he didn't stop playing all the time.
He was one of the best players in the world when he was like 19, 20 years old.
He was a killer.
But he was like, there's no future. He tells a story about watching this guy Neptune Joe Frady Neptune Joe Frady was a legend
in New Jersey Neptune Joe from Neptune Billiards and he had like half his teeth and he had a
cigarette in his hand while he was playing and he would play with his mouth open like this
wow he was a killer yeah but
he would play like he would like get into this like trance and his like mouth would be open he
was i'm watching this guy and i'm sweating out we're playing for like 200 and he doesn't have
a fucking pot to piss in or a window to throw out of it i can't win i can't win this guy's a killer
and i'm realizing like is this my future what the fuck so he stopped playing pool my
favorite when i think of funny things about tommy a big one because you're obviously always
commentating you're in the fucking super zone next to the octagon but your homies are flanked to the
back right of you and something that always happens you might not even know this actually
but it always happens to him is there'll be a great fight happening and he'll take a picture he likes taking pictures while
things happening i don't play these games because i don't want to miss a fucking thing i know how
this goes so he'll take a picture and if a knockout happens you can bet the house that he will be
posting that picture and have his head down for that moment and just, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Like he always misses a fucking head kick
or a fucking place goes wild
and the lights go up
and he doesn't even know what happened.
Also, Tommy can barely see.
So when he's looking down at his phone,
he's kind of like, is that a T or a W?
I gotta post this to Facebook.
And it just, bah, the whole place goes wild.
Shit. Like, you didn't see it, Tommy? Fuck, bah, the whole place goes wild. Shit.
Like, you didn't see it, Tommy?
Fuck.
Dude, I was posting important documents.
Exactly.
He's the man.
Every now and then.
You could almost know there's going to be a big knockout if Tommy's looking down at his phone.
The odds go up tremendously.
He's one of the funniest non-comedians that I know.
I always love when we go to the East Coast and hang out with him.
But pool players are funny, man.
They're outcasts.
That's what I loved the most when I was a kid when I went to New York
and I started hanging out at this executive billiards place that was near my house.
I fucking just loved being around misfits.
They were all misfits.
I always felt like a misfit man i never
felt like i fit in anywhere yeah like with regular people that had regular families and regular jobs
like oh my god what am i gonna talk to you about i want to be around wild people yeah these people
are all wild i was having this conversation with ray mysterio jr just the other night it's like
pro wrestlers strippers comed, comedians, pool players.
Rock stars.
Rock stars.
Pool players.
Yeah.
Yeah, fighters.
They're all the most fun people to be with because they just live in this wild lifestyle.
Like, how did you figure out to do that?
Yeah.
How are you doing that?
You know, like when you're hanging out with Gordon, like how are you strangling people for a living?
Yeah.
We're trying to convince him.
Me and my buddy Kyle, we're trying to convince him yeah, my buddy Kyle. We're trying to convince him to
Do a jiu-jitsu match blindfolded? Oh, that's hilarious I
Think he's I think he wants to do it could be fun
It's fun pitching ideas to him because he can dominate humans and he's a lot of his feel mm-hmm a lot of his feel
There's certain things stand-up would suck
Wrestling would suck you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to anticipate people shooting on you and stuff
But he would just like go to the ground immediately
Yeah, you know like when he fought Nikki Rod and Abu Dhabi remember he was telling us before the fight what he was gonna
Do he was I'm just gonna give him a leg and let him take me down then I'll submit him
Yeah, he just gave him his leg
Yeah, but he didn't make it look like he was giving him his legs to Nikki Rod thought that he got his leg No, he made it look like he was giving him his leg. He gave him his leg. Yeah. But he didn't make it look like he was giving him his leg, so Nicky Rod thought that he got his leg.
No, he made it look like he was giving him his leg.
He gave him his leg.
You've seen it?
Well, yeah.
Find Gordon Ryan versus Nicky Rod.
By the way, there's like a feud between those guys.
Yeah.
I have zero side.
I think Craig Jones is the shit.
I love that dude.
He's hilarious.
Craig Jones is hilarious.
You ever follow Craigig jones on instagram
he does these uh dick pill ads he does this ad rather for um it's not he does dick pill ads do
but he does an ad for like some testosterone replacement therapy place but the way he doesn't
is so fucking funny it's it's all it's like you don't know him you don't know if he's being honest
or he's telling the truth or if it's sarcasm. It's just ridiculous.
But he's like a comic.
He's really fucking funny, man.
But see if you can find Gordon Ryan versus Nicky Rod.
I thought I was looking for that video too then.
Yeah.
That video we could find too.
But that's on his Instagram.
But Gordon Ryan versus Nicky Rod.
And Nicky Rod is a beast.
Like he's a monster to handle, like a real physical freak.
So look, here it begins.
They start grappling, and Gordon just gives him his leg.
Oh, he does.
Yeah, he gave it to him.
He gave it to him.
Wow.
He's like, come on, let's go to the ground.
And then Nicky is trying to figure out what to do,
and Gordon's like, come on, come on in here.
It's pretty quick once he gets a hold of him. Once's like come on come on in here it's pretty quick
once he gets a hold of him once he gets a hold of him here it is so he scrambles he scoots in
and he gets inside control once he gets inside control you're in a lot of trouble so he gets
his legs nikki got out but nikki's backing out because he knows like he doesn't want a piece of
that what do you do?
You've got to do jiu-jitsu with the guy.
So you're in a real conundrum here.
Yeah, well, Nicky Rod's best chances are to take you down and hold you down and pass you.
He's got an amazing guard pass.
He's a super powerful guy, like a real freak athlete genetically.
Outstanding genes and crazy work ethic and, you know, everything.
He's got everything.
And then he was also with Donaher forever.
So that's where they trained together a bunch.
Scoot ahead a little so you can see the submission.
So eventually they lock up.
So when Nicky gets on top of him and commits to being on top of him,
then Gordon can get a hold of that leg.
So he's getting control of Nicky's left leg right now as we speak.
He's, like, sneaking deeper and deeper into it.
Now he's really locking onto it.
Now he's tying it up.
Now he's rolling under.
Now Nicky's in a lot of trouble.
Now this is real bad because he's got a really firm grip on the ankle,
and then he laced his legs over.
Now it's the heel hook.
He's got to tap.
He's got to tap here.
That's it. It's getting
real close. This is fucking super
nasty. And so once he gets the inside
heel hook, or this is a regular heel hook,
once he gets it, Nicky has to tap.
Wow.
Yeah, it's just, there's
levels to submissions and Gordon
is at the highest level. But there's also levels
to like physicality and Nicky's at the highest level. But there's also levels to physicality, and Nicky's at the highest level.
And he's getting better at jiu-jitsu.
They're a big rivalry right now.
But Gordon is just so far ahead of everybody technically and work ethic-wise.
It's fascinating to watch a guy that is only 28 years old that is dominating this insane sport where most guys are going
like back and forth back and forth one guy beats one guy another guy beats
another guy he's just smushing everybody so fine he was to kill Tony last night
again comes so often he's fun his mom was supposed to be at my shows in
Florida but his mom's a little dad got sick exactly I mean they just you know I
think there's really something to having a great
sense of humor and being a great martial artist well that's Craig then because Craig Jones you
know everybody calls him like the number two best grappler in the world like behind Gordon but
Gordon's bigger Gordon's on the sauce I don't think I don't think Craig's on the sauce yeah I
think it's part of what Craig is always joking around about.
He always says that you need the correct...
He did this thing where he's like,
you need the correct balance between steroids and autism.
So I've been taking a bunch of vaccines,
trying to get autism.
That's amazing.
It's funny, man.
It's funny.
Also, a Stone Cold killer.
He's Volkanovski's jiu-jitsu instructor.
Oh.
Yeah, he's always working with Volkanovski.
I don't know why they had a separation, Gordon and him,
but it was apparently the whole team, you know, they separated.
The B team and what they call New Wave now.
It used to be the Donahue Death Squad.
But Gary Tonin and a bunch of guys stayed with Gordon.
All those guys are in Austin now, right?
Everybody is.
Yeah.
From both groups.
They're both in Austin, which is kind of crazy.
They all moved here together from Puerto Rico,
and then they split off into two groups,
and they don't talk to each other anymore.
Ooh.
Yeah.
I like it.
It's unfortunate.
But, you know, it is what it is.
But it's the world of martial artists, like we were saying.
Those people, they're fun people.
They're people that are doing a wild thing, a very different thing.
They're not regular people that are tied down to regular jobs.
There's just so much restrictions in the way you think about things, the way you express yourself, the fun you can have, the stuff you can talk about.
It's like they're so restricted.
Yeah.
It's like that's a sucky place to be, man.
You don't want to be in that spot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, Sugar Sean O'Malley never misses an episode of Kill Tony.
Oh, he's awesome.
Israel Adesanya never misses an episode.
It goes on and on and on.
Well, also, fighters need something fun to break it.
And, like, regular talk shows are not going to do it for them.
They need some wild shit.
Yeah.
And I think that's the thing that
Kill Tony's really tapped into in this weird
culture that we have right now where you don't get
wild comedy movies anymore.
Anytime someone puts out
wild stand-up, they get attacked with a
million articles about them being
whatever phobic you could think of.
It's just, Kill
Tony just resonates during that time.
It's also like why Protect our parks does so well exactly because we just do it the same way we've always done it yeah just
four comics hanging out together getting fucked up drinking beer out of funnels i love it i love
it i saw a clip the other day someone sent me of you guys watching the i ain't gay no more
i am delivered shane's like, oh, kill Tony.
I love it.
Like these bastards.
Yeah,
we went on this rant
about Kanye.
Jamie,
what were you saying?
You thought that Kanye
was going to be on this week
because of that?
Oh,
maybe he'll still show up.
No,
he's got a new album coming out.
He had a crazy rant.
Yeah,
Kanye,
we were saying that
all he needs is one good album and he's back. And this new album, I'm guaranteed, it's going to be a banger. Yeah, Kanye. We were saying that all he needs is one good album
and he's back.
And this new album,
I'm guaranteed,
it's going to be a banger.
I'm a Kanye fucking,
I'm a,
Oh, yeah.
I'm just a believer.
Oh, yeah.
No, you're the biggest Kanye fan alive.
Yeah.
Yeah, when I told you
I was going to have Kanye
on the podcast,
you fucking,
Oh, yeah.
I sent you a,
a must listen to playlist.
A document, yeah.
Yeah. You got to listen to this, start with this album, go to a document. Yeah. Yeah.
You got to listen to this.
Start with this album.
Go to that album.
Yeah.
People talk shit about how his new stuff,
the old Kanye's a thing,
but it's like you want them a little crazy.
He's the evolution.
So like whatever he does is where the industry is going to be in three to five years. Everybody is so far behind him
that everybody younger than him and everybody listening
has to catch up years behind because you can't just copy it.
Yeah.
Well, you're always going to have guys like that.
Yeah.
Wild pioneers.
Yeah.
And they're always at least slightly unhinged.
Oh, yeah.
He's above and beyond. He is above and beyond. How do you least slightly unhinged oh yeah oh he's above and beyond
he is above how do you not be unhinged do you do you want greatness or not right do you want
greatness or not oh this next album's crazy no doubt guaranteed no we should debut and he has
so much to talk about yeah you know the that freestyle part two from god damn it the one that
people don't know whether it's AI or whether it's him Jamie do you know what
I'm talking about I listen to it all the time so there's like a it's heavily
debated whether it's actually Kanye or whether it's AI this thing right yeah
why is it's new because Kanye hasn't commented on it at all the guy the actual rapper doesn't
talk about it it's another rapper he did a duet with yeah it's on spaz boy what's it called the
link i clicked is loading slow it's some freestyle part two or something loading slow because
probably everybody on planet earth is listening to it right now. But the lyrics are unbelievable. So now, here's the interesting part.
It's like Kanye has so much he can talk about now.
Interesting.
So just to add to this.
Right.
I found people talking about it on Reddit from three months ago.
Yeah.
And there's a link to it.
That video has been taken down from a copyright claim from a music label.
Interesting.
Right.
So it might be.
It might be real then.
Right.
I'm trying to find it.
And the lyrics are diabolical.
As he's talking about Adidas, he's talking about this,
he's talking about that.
Ooh.
It's powerful.
Are we allowed to play it?
I don't know.
I mean.
We might not be allowed to play it.
We might get in trouble.
It's so good. and it's hilarious.
He's a wild fella.
It's funny.
It's profound.
It's everything that he is.
Is this it?
I have to ask Tony.
I'm a man of my word.
No, this is different.
That?
Yeah.
Is that how it starts?
No, it's not that fast.
This is like a remix or something.
Let's hear it, though.
After that happened, if it was AI,
then there's going to be a bunch of people making copies to steal YouTube views and TikTok views and all sorts of stuff.
Really?
Yeah.
But it's not on a...
You said it got taken down?
It was on a YouTube video.
It was taken down.
So maybe someone re-uploaded it and they weren't allowed to.
That's kind of what I'm saying
Right, right, which is of course gonna happen
Yeah, yeah
Welcome to the internet. Yeah
That's what's so cool about releasing an album now
Yes
Yeah, he comes say the guy's name right there.
Yeah, he comes in in like 20 seconds.
I'm going to turn this up on my thing. So this is the first guy
He's gonna come in
Who is this guy?
What's his name?
This is Rundown Spaz
Rundown Spaz my balls Pals Fuck all of y'all
Hold up, hold up
You know it's kinda easy
I'm done being preachy
I'm a different species, it's easy
Yeah, till the devil get
beneath me, all I did was
tell the truth and nobody believed
me, on a boat getting
hit out in the teetly
My wife's titties is dee dees They gon' pull my dick on the cover of head out in the tea leave my wife's titties as dds they gonna put my dick
on the cover of us weekly make she show my ass crack riding rap chicago gmc black on black
easy season black on black easy out the box like a cracker jack mr egomaniac them people trying to
pay me back can't say i ain't changed rap real nigga artifact i mix the art with rap i mix gospel We'll be right back. Like a broad strap command See you all kept stealing here Government ain't playing fair
They ain't want a yeah here
We got the White House
Surrounding niggas everywhere
Next year I pull up to the fucking man
Gala in my underwear
I don't care
Used to be a billionaire
That's a thousand millionaires
Bank locked up on my money
I don't care
You can't stop a fucking guy
Yeah, 2024 Came in the game Broke down on the doors broke all the locks for what you got for what I wore
Foot on the devil's net for the law. I'm done tap dancing. No, it's all no more interviews with the falls
Y'all can't even keep score. I pissed on my Grammy awards cuz I don't need no war. Yeah, I don't need your applause
Yeah, I told you I was a guy
Need a wall. Yeah, I don't need your applause. Yeah, I told you I was a guy luminati took my mind
Luminati took my wife made me wanna take my life, bitch. I threw away my ice and you know, I'll pay that day. Won't yay
Oh, where are my dick singing?
Adidas fell off cause they ain't got yay ain't got yay try to cancel me but you can't cancel yay if there was no jay
there would be no yay you know i'm spazzing why you got so much cap in your cash and
even elon know that i'll be gassing
yeah so i'm looking on people talking about it on Reddit.
There is a discussion if it's real or not, but that sounded pretty real.
Sounded pretty real.
Sounds very real.
If it's not, AI's got my vote.
Right.
If it wasn't, that would have to have been a crazy AI experiment that we haven't heard anything that close to it.
If AI is that good, I welcome them.
I welcome them to create our rap songs.
Yeah, I read a lot about it.
And what they said was that the inhale,
that's one of Kanye's trademarks in between when he's rapping
because he leaves that in.
That's what I was catching on to.
That would be really hard to fake.
Yeah.
Yeah, but AI would know that.
No, so that wouldn't.
I don't think they're not saying an AI made that.
What they're saying how it would have been a fake is the guy who wrote
Run Down Spaz, I guess. They're saying, how it would have been a fake, is the guy who wrote Rundown Spaz, I guess,
they're saying he would have written that, recorded it,
and then used almost like deep faking to just copy Kanye's voice over his voice.
Well, they definitely could do that.
We just watched that with that lady, the White House press secretary lady with Obama.
They 100% could do that.
It's tough to do that, though, with AI, I think.
At least this was four months ago when this was made,
and this was a guy in his, you know, not somebody at a laboratory.
Again, I read a lot about it,
and they said that the breath thing in AI
is kind of like how they can't do fingers in AI.
Do you know how crazy it is to say that four months ago they couldn't do that?
Yeah.
But now we know they could.
Isn't that wild, Jamie?
Like, think about, like, that made sense to all of us. When you said four months ago they couldn't do that yeah but now we know they could isn't that wild jamie like think
about like that made sense to all of us when you said four months ago they couldn't do this well
oh yeah four months ago at what time in history has there been a timeline where four months ago
seems like forever yeah like when someone sends you an article and you look and you go oh it's
from may you like dismiss it. This is like five months
ago, whatever. Get out of here with that. Oh, this is seven months ago. Oh my God, this is 2022.
What are you, reading ancient history to me? And when you say that something could do something
now, like when we're talking about Michael Hastings' car, 2010, could they do that?
I think they could do that. Now we know they could do that. Four months ago, if you said, I don't know if they could do that Kanye song like that four months ago, unless they made it in a lab.
Now, 100%.
Yeah.
How many times has Duncan Trussell taken your voice and had you said, say ridiculous things in the green room to us?
Oh, yeah.
He's hilarious with that.
So fast.
It's so funny.
And it sounds exactly like me.
It sounds exactly like you and you're like praising things that suck.
What was the last one he did with you?
He's done a bunch of them.
He takes people that I don't necessarily like and makes me talk about how much I love them.
And about I try to focus on their positive qualities.
David Lucas hates that Duncan does that.
He gets scared like there's a ghost in the room.
Turn that off.
Turn that off.
Which is why he made that rap song about David Lucas.
Yeah.
It's so crazy.
Having him around is so important. Oh, man. We have such a great crew. Oh, the squad is Yeah. It's so crazy. Having him around is so important.
Oh, man.
We have such a great crew.
Oh, the squad is crazy.
It's so good.
When we're all working out together,
I'm looking,
I'm like,
this is so crazy.
It's Brian Simpson,
Ahsan,
Derek Poston,
Shane Gillis.
Yep.
Matt McCusker,
Tim Dillon.
So many good guys.
Segura,
Christina Pazitsky.
There's so many good guys here. Yeah. So many good comics. Holt, Christina Pazitsky. There's so many good guys here.
Yeah.
So many good comics.
Holtzman's a big one.
Oh, my God.
Having Holtzman around is amazing.
And all the big dogs want to come back all the time.
There's people all-
How about Howie Mandel the other night?
Oh, my God.
He has the time of his life here.
He's like, I want to do this.
I was trying to convince him to be a comic again.
Yeah.
I go, do you have so much money?
Like, you don't need any more money. If this is what you like like to do this is what you should be doing like when he's with us
he's like a little kid oh yeah like this is so fun when he went up on stage he had so much fun
oh yeah like he just showed up and i was like do you want to go up you could tell he's like
um i don't have to it's okay i'd like you to go up if you'd like to go do you want to go up
i was like yeah okay okay you go up after brian brian go up. Do you want to go up? I was like, yeah, okay. You go up after Brian. Brian's up next.
And he's just like, oh my God. You can see he gets all giddy.
Because you can't buy that.
Yeah. And then he comes backstage. He's like, it's so fun.
God, I want to do this again all the time.
I saw he was at the Ice House the other day.
So maybe he's doing more stand-up now.
He's got the itch. We know how to do that.
We brought Ron out of retirement. We brought Roseanne out of retirement.
Ron's on tour again.
When Ron's girlfriend said, come to Ron's retirement party, I go, I ain't going to no
bullshit party for something that's never going to happen.
I go, Ron White is not retiring.
What are you talking about?
He's always like, well, I'll retire, but I'll do your club.
I go, Ron, you can do whatever you want, but you're not retiring.
Stop saying you're going to retire.
You're one of the greatest of all time.
You're not retiring.
Shut the fuck up.
He's so funny.
He's better now than he's ever been.
Oh, yeah.
He's so sharp because he's working with us all the time.
He's doing sets all the time.
He comes on nights where he doesn't even want to do sets.
It's just a home away from home.
He needs to be around comedians.
Well, when we had that Christmas party the other night, we were all huddled up in the green room like, this is our safe space.
Yeah.
This is like, it's a clubhouse.
It's like the ultimate clubhouse.
Yeah.
It's so fun, man.
It's the best.
They're so silly.
The laughs that we have in that room are insane.
The hardness of the laughs.
It's so silly.
It's so fun.
It's so fun. It's so fun. It's so fun.
It's just we're so lucky.
You know, like I was saying the other day with us working out with The Rock,
I was like, is this real life?
Like, what is this?
Like, this fun thing that we get to do.
Like, we've just engineered this very bizarre life.
Yeah.
I get to golf with Ron.
Golf is like a four- five hour adventure yeah and there's
unbelievable quiet moments where you know it's it's times like because it's not like hunting
where you have to kind of be quiet yeah so like he could snipe and say something from
a hundred yards away great shot if your shit goes in the woods or whatever,
just whatever.
And with his twang,
I'm horrible at impressions,
but he has the funniest execution.
And that's the thing about that green room
when I'm talking about how hard we laugh.
Like you have protect our parks
is one fifth of the room at any given point.
And we're all together.
So it's like a super Royal rumble ultra podcast and he'll just
snipe with a word yep there's something like that to something like it's just chaos yeah it's we're
very fortunate man yeah i feel very fortunate really do almost too fortunate like while it's
happening i'm like god we're so lucky like how did this happen because when we thought about doing this place when you and i who were like the first of the pioneers yeah out here
when we were talking about doing this place like we all had this idea what it was going to be but
we didn't think it was going to work out that well we didn't think it was going to be perfect
not that fast i thought it would be perfect but we were really we really had it at Vulcan. The story starts at that crazy cement fucking paper mache,
no walls on the stalls.
I don't know if you ever went to one of the public restrooms there.
Oh, I did.
Oh, they were disgusting.
Half of them didn't flush.
There was a moment where Brian Simpson was high as fuck,
and he looked at me and he goes,
yo, dawg, you ever look at the cords that hold up those speakers?
I go, what?
He goes, you know how heavy those speakers are?
I go, no, how heavy are those speakers?
He goes, oh, hundreds of pounds.
I go, really?
He goes, yeah.
He goes, look at that cord.
He goes, there's two little skinny ass strands.
He goes, they got no backup.
One of those breaks, everybody dies.
I was like, Jesus Christ, Nick.
What the fuck?
I told Nick, have you ever looked at those cords?
Yeah.
Brian had me totally convinced these giant speakers
are gonna fall on the people in the front row.
Yeah, so many memories from that place.
That place is wild.
That was the place where we decided
that we were gonna open a club.
When Ron White grabbed me by my shoulders.
Whatever the fuck we have to do, we're doing this.
You gotta open up a club. That was over three years ago. When Ron White grabbed me by my shoulders, whatever the fuck we have to do, we're doing this. Yeah.
You got to open up a club.
Yeah.
I was like, okay.
That was over three years ago.
Yeah.
Three years and a month or two ago.
Yeah, I was like, let's do it.
Yeah.
It was so wild to be doing shows indoors back then.
I just found a stash of masks the other day in my truck.
They were in my little side thing.
I didn't know they were in there.
I pulled out these fucking stupid surgical masks.
I'm like, God.
It's like I'm trying to forget this.
It's like a time where the world went insane.
Yep.
That's exactly how I feel when I see one.
They'll pop up near fucking socks or whatever, crazy laundry or shit.
I was watching a video on YouTube of a car review, and these guys were in this car, and they both had masks'm like nope i don't want to see it yeah like i don't want to see this i don't i don't want
to this is like it's going to annoy me so much right these guys are doing this stupid thing that
everybody had to do well that's what i'm saying at the airports i notice especially on the insides
of airports people do it and like like i was like i glazed over earlier when i saw a barista wearing two masks it's almost
like this sounds terrible but it's like seeing a wild animal in the wild because i'm like trying
to study the situation like what are they thinking are they sick are they super sick i'm like waiting
for them to cough or breathe heavy or something because you have to think to yourself like are you paying any attention
to anything and it's also an anxiety thing and some people like the mask that some people actually
liked wearing a mask because at least part of them was covered like they didn't have to expose
part of their expressions to you like people that were socially awkward maybe they like being behind
a mask you know one thing i noticed uh at a building i used to live in one of the guys that
worked that you'd see a lot around the building um always wore the mask and i'm like that's so
interesting i wonder if he has a pre-existing condition because he doesn't seem his attitude
and his energy wasn't a mask wearing
energy if that makes sense i don't know i it's i don't know but that's what i felt and then
i saw him without the mask and he had a weird uh like a a uh what's the thing where you cuss
sometimes yeah he had like Tourette's but just with his's. Yeah, he had like Tourette's, but just with his face, whatever that is, where it was like a, he would do like a.
Yeah, little tics.
Yeah, tics.
He had face tics.
Yeah.
And then I realized, oh, his life is just a little bit easier.
He feels more normal behind the mask.
Sure.
Because you don't see it if he's wearing it.
Yeah.
And I think some people are hiding behind it.
They like to hide behind it.
It makes them feel better.
And then there's also this thing where like some some people had a very high level of anxiety already.
Yeah.
And they only get their information in little echo chambers, which I think we're all guilty of to some extent.
But they get their information from these echo chambers and they really believe everything the mainstream news says.
And especially when it's ideologically connected.
That's what's so crazy
it's like taking a vaccine taking a medicine somehow or another became ideologically connected
with you being a progressive well-educated open-minded liberal whereas being skeptical
of the companies that have the biggest fucking criminal fines in medical history like giant
crazy fines for lying like those guys you should trust and if you don't trust them well you must
be some trumper anti-vaxxer right some fool yeah who's taking veterinary medicine. Oh, you fool. Right. And to see that be a dividing narrative was very
enlightening because to me, you know, cause I was caught up in the middle of it all. I was like,
Oh, it's an ideology thing. It's a thing that humans do where you just believe a collected
group of ideas that matches with your social circle, maybe your economic circle,
maybe the, you know, the education circle, the people that you know that are all like operating
in your world. And you all just believe it wholesale without investigating it. And if you
get critical of it at all, you get attacked. So you back off that. You don't want that.
I don't know how that happened.
I don't know if that was a natural course of events or if that was like socially engineered.
If it was socially engineered, my God, it's brilliant. It's brilliant. Like if that was
like, if you want to go full Alex Jones and say that was like a test run for like a real pandemic
to see how people would react and how quickly they'd roll over, you would go, wow, that was shocking. Because people that I really respected,
that were really intelligent people were terrified of discussing the possibility that maybe you're
not getting the whole truth about all of it, whether it's the origins of the virus,
the medications that are effective in treating the virus, what's legal and why it's legal and why it's being mandated.
Like if you're not even, if any skepticism at all, you're attacked for, it's like, that's
brilliant.
How did they do that?
Did they do that because it's just like the perfect storm of a terrifying pandemic, a
bunch of people freaking out, and then this solution that gets offered that everybody thinks, like, if you were like some crazy cabal of super billionaires
like the world economic forum type you really kind of could engineer society into a certain
direction if you just like you know how they behave when things happen and if you can get a
certain narrative out there early enough where you can't no one can call bullshit on it like the
vaccine is 100 effective and if you get the, you're never going to get COVID.
The virus stops with you.
If you can get that out there and enough people can repeat it, then everybody who is against that is against this idea of us getting back to normal.
And then you already know, oh, they'll just start fighting.
Look at this.
This is amazing.
And then they'll all comply.
comply and then they won't admit that the problems that you were talking about like excess deaths and all-cause mortality all that stuff young people
dying of heart attacks at a record rate they're not they won't look at it right
because that goes against their narrative and when all that happened
there's two types of people right ones that need a lot of socializing right
like we hang out and talk to people.
We ask questions, not just our direct family,
other like-minded people and whatnot.
And the information, oh, you know somebody that got it?
You know what I mean?
Right.
And I think a lot of people don't have that.
So they were going to the internet, right?
Especially shut-ins.
Exactly. But also everybody, because we had nothing else to fucking
do I mean that had to be the time when the most data I bet I'm sure there's a
record for that like I'm sure that has to be a record for Wi-Fi use and dad
like I mean everyone's home yeah just consuming and everyone's full of anxiety
which brings me to my next point thing thing, which is like, I just read a thing about how corporate trolling is a big thing.
Like buying, these corporations are buying in the ability to inform misinformation.
There's a crazy statistic, but it's insane.
15% of posts on Reddit were from corporate trolls or something like that.
What percent?
15%.
I think that thing I read was higher.
Holy shit, man.
But it's like.
Holy shit.
It's a thing, which means it could have been a thing then.
Right.
Which is why.
Yeah, go ahead.
Even the people that, like we were talking about the baby boomers not just being spoon fed the news,
even the people that think they're one level smarter are reading things that are easily bought by a multi-billion dollar corporation.
Something we wouldn't spend money on information, but I wouldn't say.
What a wild thing to do, to hire someone to get a narrative out and to pretend you're
a regular person arguing online.
And it's totally legal.
It's really deception.
New study, at least 15% of alldit content is corporate trolls trying to manipulate public
opinion now is that fraud what is that it's not technically fraud what is it
though if you're pretending to be a person should you have to sign a
contract when you use a social media account like you know this Nikki Haley
lady I think she wants everybody to have to like expose their name and their ID whenever they post but the problem with that is then that
discourages like government whistleblowers and things along those lines like if someone has like
some important information that they have to get out you know and also foreign countries that'll
kill people you can't if you if you have the rules apply to America, you're going to have to have those rules apply to other countries. What percentage of people that are on Twitter are from the rest
of the world outside of America? It's got to be pretty high. So how are you going to enforce that?
You're not going to be able to. But even if you did, this idea that that's a good thing,
I see why they would say that, but you should at least have to somehow or another
prove that you're an individual.
I don't know how you would do that
without giving up your information,
but maybe you don't have to do it publicly,
but there should be a way
where we know you're not a troll.
Like, fucking man,
the only problem with that is it's a trap
because the way is like a digital ID
and you don't want to give up a digital id right you don't want to have like a thing that shows you everywhere you go
online because someone will be able to just do things with that they'll be able to manipulate
you from that into having something that's attached to something else like whether it's a vaccine
passport or a social credit score or you you know, centralized digital currency that's on that
phone with that app, with your unique ID. This is how we're going to stop bank fraud. You're
going to have a unique ID. Nobody's going to be able to steal your money. Your money's all digital
now. Technically, they could track everything about your life. So when you look at somebody,
your glasses can say how often they eat at this restaurant and everything.
So is the solution to just allow the trolls trolls allow corporate trolls and hope that people are smart enough to realize
they're being fucked with but like what if those corporate trolls are shifting public opinion and
it actually costs lives that's where it gets weird like what if they lie about something
because they don't want to have responsibility for something they did so they obscure the truth
with these corporate trolls and it gets messy enough where people just argue it out and they
slide through and you know when you think about the intentions behind who would they attack what
types of things would they try to manipulate it's the things that would threaten them yeah
need a little clarification on this as i tried to dig through it's the things that would threaten them. Need a little clarification on this.
As I tried to dig through the article, the article is paid for behind a medium, so I can't get there.
Paid for by Trolls Inc.
Right, exactly.
You have to pay to get in there, I said that wrong.
What it actually says behind it is 15% of the top 100 subreddits found to have content that was likely posted by bots or corporate trolls,
specifically aimed at promoting certain companies or organizations.
I don't know why that's so hard to believe when we know how many trolls are on Facebook and Instagram.
There's constant trolls.
I was looking at someone was getting attacked for something, like pretty minor,
but I was just like reading the comments of this page. And I do this thing now where I'll go and I'll read something that seems like a little weird or off or something.
And then I go to their page.
Oh, you're a fake account.
This is a fake account.
You have no posts.
You're restricted.
No one can see it.
You have no followers.
You have like 15 followers.
Like, oh, okay.
This is fake. You got a fake followers. Like, oh, okay. This is fake.
You got a fake account.
How many of these are there?
How many of these are there that are just constantly commenting on things and trying to stir up bullshit?
It's weird.
And it's legal.
So if right now there's no law that prevents corporations from hiring people to pretend that they're a person or using AI to pretend they're a person to put a narrative out if that's
Not illegal like what is that?
Like what kind of deception is that like you're not allowed a lie, right?
Like if a corporation is found that they're they're lying about data
They get fined if they if they're if it's found out that they're lying about environmental problems
They've created whatever they get fined, right?
They get in trouble.
People could go to jail.
But if you could just have like a bunch of people constantly lying for you or if it's AI, have AI constantly lying for you.
Yeah.
Obscuring the truth, publishing misleading papers.
Right.
AI could just start publishing papers you know because
papers get accepted sometimes that are fucking loony like um are you aware of the um the grievance
fraud papers okay it's a really fascinating story so these guys who are legitimate academics, they they just it's Helen Pluckrose.
Do you have it? Can you pull it up?
James Lindsay and fuck Peter Boghossian.
Sorry, Peter. Brain, brain freeze.
Brain freeze.
But the three of them put together these grievance papers where they were fake papers based on ridiculous things like rape culture, the dog park, and heteronormative behavior, the dog park.
Like weird shit.
Like fat bodybuilding.
Like fake papers.
Yeah. And some of them won awards
Yeah Like could have put up the the grievance studies affair
Okay
The grievance studies affair was project with team of authors Peter Boghossian
James a Lindsay and Helen pluck rose to highlight what they saw as poor scholarship and erosion of standards in several academic fields
Taking place over 2017 2018 their project entailed submitting bogus papers to academic journals
on topics from the field of critical social theory, or in derogatory terms, wokery.
Culture, queer, race, gender, fat, and sexuality studies to determine whether or not they would pass
through peer review and be accepted for publication.
Several of these papers were subsequently published with the authors cited in support
of their contention.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's find out what the names of the studies were because they were very funny.
Like some of them were really, really ridiculous.
So basically these are reviewed by other supposedly academic humans.
Yeah.
So Peter Boghossian, who was, was he at the University of Portland?
What are the names of the papers?
Right here.
Okay, human reactions to rape culture and queer performativity in urban dog parks in Portland, Oregon.
Oh my God, it's amazing.
They're all retracted, obviously, because people found out that they're fake studies.
Going in through the back door, challenging straight male homo hysteria and transphobia
through receptive penetrative sex toy use.
Oh my God, can we read that?
What is that?
That's hilarious.
It's amazing.
It's amazing. It's amazing.
They were saying that, like, guys of homophobia, you should get pegged
and that'll get over, you'll get over the
transphobia. And there's just somebody that has to review that
and they're like, well, I'm not gonna be
the one that gets in trouble for
it's basically a study. They were saying, amazing.
We like what you're saying.
They retract this article. It's come come to light that is not present genuine research
this article was not authored by uh m smith as stated on submission but peter boghossian
helen pluckrose james lindsey have all publicly admitted it was written by them under false tense yeah to date very little research literature exists concerning receptive
penetration anal eroticism in straight men of particular interest is impact
upon other factors relevant to masculinities sex roles and the studies
of sex life several it's hard to read this because it says redacted over the top of it,
notes like it could be relevant to straight male sexuality,
including masturbatory play with penetrative toys specifically.
This study seeks to explore do men who report greater discomfort
with receptive penetrative anal eroticism also report less transphobia,
less obedience to masculine gender norms, greater partner sensitivity, and greater awareness about rape. The study uses semi-structured
interviews with 13 men to explore this question, analyzed with a naturalist and constructivist
grounded theory approach in the context of sexual's research and introduces trans hysteria as parallel
concept to Anderson's homo hysteria.
This analysis recognizes, I can't read that, it's covered over, socially remedial value
for encouraging male anal eroticism with sex toys.
Encouraging.
They were just trying to say that the social sciences are bullshit.
Yeah.
That all this theory, these are insane people, and they're talking about nonsense.
And so they made these papers, and some of them won awards.
Unbelievable.
They're basically saying if you shove stuff up a straight guy's ass.
It'll fix all his problems.
Yeah.
Imagine there's people that read that and don't go, what the fuck are you talking about?
There's people that read that and go, yeah, good idea.
I like it.
I wonder how long the paper was.
I think that is probably what's going on.
Yeah.
That's probably what they're missing.
Everyone's a misfit. That what's going on. Yeah. That's probably what they're missing. Everyone's a misfit.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
Misfits have found themselves.
And they've formed these groups in universities where they're teaching kids.
And they're teaching them nonsense.
And so when a paper slips through that under a civilization that has its wits about it, the highest levels
of education would read that and go, what the fuck are you talking about?
What are you talking about, man?
You're talking about, you guys did a study where you pegged dudes to see if you could
clear them of trans hysteria?
Oh my God.
What the fuck are you doing?
I want to know the results.
Yeah.
Results are all fake.
They made it all up.
All the research was fake.
And that was with a bunch of them.
But it's just funny that it snuck through because that's how nuts things are.
Things are so nuts in universities.
You have so many crazy people teaching kids.
Imagine being a kid, too, when you're finally getting away from your dad.
Maybe your dad's a dope.
Maybe he's a Fox News monkey, and he's just fucking always parroting everything that they say.
And you're like, God, I can't wait to get away from my repressive father.
And you get to a school, and these new people embrace you, and they take you in.
And you get to be a part of this new group, and this new group has a totally different ideology from your parents.
Man, fuck your parents. And fuck the colonists the colonists and like yeah fuck the colonists and next thing you know you're
on board with this shit and then one day you wake up and you're like 27 yeah you're working
and you're like where are my taxes going it's wild we had a uh we had i think she was 25 or
something year old girl pulled out of the bucket yesterday,
last night on Kill Tony,
and she mentioned that she broke up with her boyfriend
because she found videos of him sucking a dude's dick
on his computer while wearing her clothes.
So he would would when she was
away he would put on her feminine clothes and have guys come on yeah guys
dicks yeah everybody's got their thing Tony yeah it's a it's wild times I asked
I asked her I go did he come out as gay after that? Did he come out of your closet? How much of this trend that you see in society towards whether it's transgenderism or queerness or this acceptance of this, not just accept, but celebration of the LBGTQ lifestyle.
Is it possible that a percentage of that is influenced and engineered just like these corporate trolls
or influencing narratives is there a percentage where china is making everybody gay
and russia right yeah you think do you think it's possible i don't think it's 100 i'm not saying that
gay people don't exist i'm not saying that gay people and trans people shouldn't be free. Of course you should be. That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is how many lost people are being influenced by a narrative that is in some way being influenced by foreign governments?
Is it 5%?
Like, what's the number? Like, what is the number where this message gets elevated specifically as a way to, whether it's demoralize or confuse or cause some sort of societal disruption?
foreign government, and I was going to figure out a way to fuck with the country.
What better way than have a bunch of gender confusion and people mad about gender confusion?
I guarantee you that per capita, there's more gays in America than there are in China.
If you can hand out that questionnaire.
Yeah, but maybe not though.
Maybe it's like the Catholic school girl thing where you tell them they can't do it and they just want to do it.
All right, let me put it this way I
Guarantee you there's more people willing to admit. They're gay in America, but in China and Russia. Oh, yeah for sure Well, I think in you ever seen a Russian admit to being gay. I think it's illegal I
Think there's something great like what are the laws in Russia on game? That was one of the things that pussy riot
We're I think there's something great. Like, what are the laws in Russia on gay? That was one of the things that Pussy Riot were protesting about back in the day.
Remember that Russian girl punk band Pussy Riot?
Yeah.
They were Russian?
Yeah.
Huh.
Bro, you want to be an activist in Russia?
That's a different kind of courage.
That's a different kind of courage.
Yeah.
That's a different kind of courage.
You want to do protests in Russia? They'll beat the fuck out of you they'll lock you in jail right um but I think there's like laws against homosexuality Stalin in
1934 made it illegal for anal sex between men three to five years
imprisonment and then you're in a prison butt-fucking forever.
Right, but that was illegal in America at the time, too.
Lenny Bruce used to have
a joke about that.
One of Lenny Bruce's rare jokes
that culturally still work today,
he was like,
dig, so you take these guys
that they're into guys
and you say,
hey, you can't be gay,
that's illegal.
So you lock them up with a bunch of men who want to have sex with them. Yeah. that they're into guys and you say, hey, you can't be gay. That's illegal.
So you lock them up with a bunch of men
who want to have sex with them.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
They knew the guys
were fucking each other in prison
in the 50s, in the 60s.
Everybody knew it.
But homosexuality at that time,
I think, was illegal in America.
At least in some way.
Sodomy is what was illegal.
Right, but that's what that is.
So you can be gay, you just can't do anything.
Because sodomy is mouth and butt.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then they changed it to same-sex sodomy in some states along the way.
Finally.
So straight people could do their mouth and butt thing.
Who was the last?
The last guy
to get convicted.
Shit!
2003.
His last dude
was eating ass
in the 1860s.
I bet you could
figure it out.
Alabama.
No.
Georgia.
No.
Tennessee.
California.
2003.
New York.
Texas.
No.
Texas.
West Virginia. Texas. It was? 2003. Guy got 2003. New York. Texas. West Virginia.
Texas.
2003, a guy got arrested for eating ass.
Your Honor, he was eating that girl's ass.
I walked in, I caught him in the middle of something against our Lord.
Missouri had a law against homosexual conduct.
Ooh.
Wow.
We could all get arrested for that.
The crazy thing about calling it sodomy is you're talking about Sodom and Gomorrah.
You're talking about a biblical thing.
That's what's wild about that term.
That's the origin of the term sodomy.
So if you're saying that someone can't do gay stuff, you're saying they can't do gay stuff because the Bible says it's illegal.
Lawrence versus Texas is what it's called.
Wow.
That's called. Wow, that's nuts. 2003 is a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the court ruled that sanctions of criminal punishment for consensual adult non-procreative sexual activity, commonly referred to as so earlier cases had found the U.S. Constitution provides,
even though it is not explicitly enumerated.
It based its ruling on the notion that personal autonomy defined one's own relationships and
of American traditions of non-interference with private sexual decisions between consenting
adults.
Fucking duh.
Imagine it took till 2003.
That is nuts. Yeah. consenting adults. Fucking duh. Imagine it took till 2003.
That is nuts.
Yeah. So in 1998, John Geddes Lawrence Jr., an older white man, was arrested along with Tyron Garner,
a younger black man at Lawrence's apartment in Harris County, Texas.
Garner's former boyfriend had called the police, claiming that there was a man with a weapon in the apartment.
What a bitch move.
Oh, man.
What a bitch move.
Angry ex-boyfriend.
There he is.
What a bitch move.
Garner's former...
His old white man ex-boyfriend's just getting pounded by some beast.
You son of a bitch.
He's got a gun.
Garner's former boyfriend had called the police, claiming that there was a man with a weapon in the apartment.
Sheriff's deputy said
they found the men engaging
in sexual intercourse.
Oh, what the fuck?
They brought...
Imagine in the middle
of having some good old
butt fucking...
Just a bunch of police
with revolvers.
SWAT team.
Texas fucking...
Fucking...
Hold up, hold up.
Stop, stop.
They got night vision on.
Shit.
Fucking...
They brought a dog.
Jesus Christ.
Lawrence and Garner were charged with misdemeanor under Texas anti-sodomy law.
Imagine, they broke into these guys' house while they were having sex,
and they charged them with the anti-sodomy law.
Both pleaded no contest and received a fine.
Assisted by the American civil organization Lambda Legal.
Not to be confused with NAMBLA.
North American Man-Boy Love Association.
You know, that's a real thing.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Lawrence and Garner appealed their sentences through the Texas Court of Appeals.
It's ruled in 2000.
Sodomy law was unconstitutional.
Texas appealed to have the court.
Wow.
Texas is like, nope.
Sounds suspicious.
We're appealing that appeal.
You ain't butt fucking in my county, son.
Look at here.
Page 25.
Right here in the good book.
Says no butt fucking.
Oh my God.
You let one in, you let them all in.
Yeah, a man cannot layeth with another man.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
What is the origins of the term sodomy?
Can you Google that?
I'm 99% sure it comes from Sodom and Gomorrah.
But what is it described when it says sodomy?
Like when you say...
Like the biblical description?
Yeah.
Well, Sodom and Gomorrah, right?
So they were apparently engaging in all these awful things,
and God decided to smite them, right?
That's the story?
Do you remember the story?
I mean, someone tried to put a bad name on fucking Sodom.
He did something.
Something happened, and I think it was like a town, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Was it two towns, Sodom and Gomorrah?
Yeah, they were next to each other.
They're just both motherfuckers getting out of control, getting crazy.
It sounds like Vegas.
It sounded like Vegas.
It was their version of Vegas, and everybody was like, hey, hey, hey.
Hey.
And they're like, what are you talking about?
We figured out a way to fucking not have kids.
Yeah.
And God's like, uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
No, not up the butt.
That's where it says it right here, I guess.
Okay.
Addresses people as from Sodom and Gomorrah, associates Sodom with shameless sinning, and
tells Babylon that it will end like those two cities.
So what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible?
Oh, that was the fire and brimstone.
Right.
Can you just find out what it says?
I just want to read the description.
Oh, well.
Is it at the top?
Wasn't that it?
We have to do Bible study now.
Wasn't that it at the top?
No.
Yeah, we're doing Bible study.
I know this is a long description.
It doesn't say anything that you're looking for.
It definitely isn't going to say anything about butt fucking in the Bible.
I know that.
It's a lot of like inferred, this is what they were talking about.
Right.
I don't think it's about butt fucking in the Bible.
It's just talking about sin.
But how does it become specifically sin of butt-fucking?
If you said someone sodomized someone, you would say they butt-fucked, right?
Hold on, let me do like sodomize.
It seems like religion has kind of penetrated society on this one.
You know what I mean?
Like in the law.
Because that's what they say is against the law, right?
Sodomy?
Or was that part of the thing?
Yes.
It comes from the sin of sodomy.
Yeah.
Sin of Sodom.
Sin of Sodom.
So why is sodomy a sin?
Jesus joins other ancient authorities in viewing the sins of the sodomites as the abuse of
strangers, neglecting the poor and the needy, and the stigmatizing of outsiders.
Whoa.
Wait a minute.
Now it gets weird.
Yeah.
Now it gets weird because I like what Jesus is saying.
So Jesus is saying when you commit sodomy, the sin is the abuse of strangers, neglecting
the poor and the needy, and then stigmatizing of outsiders.
And then Texas is like, yeah, butt fucking.
Basically butt fucking. That shit's illegal, man. Don't be butt fucking is like, yeah, butt-fucking. Basically butt-fucking.
That shit's illegal, man. Don't be butt-fucking.
No, no, no. And Jesus is like,
that's not what I said. Jesus is like,
no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying
don't be shitty to strangers.
Scroll back down so I can read that again.
Don't neglect the poor and the needy
and don't stigmatize others.
See, this is how we prevent wars.
You other people, right?
Jesus is saying, don't do that.
And everybody's like, yeah, no butt fucking.
Jesus said it.
Yeah.
Hey, no stigmatizing around here.
But imagine if that's what the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were.
They were just shitty to people.
And Jesus is like, don't be shitty to people.
And then someone's like, I heard they were butt fucking too.
That's even worse.
That's even worse.
There was probably some dude who really wanted to butt fuck and be so angry that he couldn't butt fuck.
Nobody gets to butt fuck.
Right.
Because that's a lot of it.
When you find people that are like vehemently anti-gay, you're always like, hmm, how long before they catch you in a wetsuit?
Ooh.
Dildo up your ass.
Addition to this.
Okay.
Dildo up your ass Addition to this
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Unnatural sexual relations
Such as
Those customs
Imputed to the inhabitants
Of biblical Sodom
Especially between men
But also with breasts
Beasts
Oh excuse me
Beasts from old French
Sodomy
Compare late Latin for a beast from old french sodomy uh compare late latin
anal sex literally the sins of sodom from the latin sodoma in middle english also sin
sodomic um did you know that some forms of syphilis apparently came from people fucking
animals no yeah do you know what animal?
I think it's sheep.
Is that true?
I might have made that up.
I know that there's different forms of syphilis, and one they're pretty sure came from the original people in the Mayflower
coming over and having sex with Native Americans
and then going back to Europe and giving them VD,
giving them syphilis.
The kind of syphilis is just killing everybody.
Because that's the syphilis that makes your fucking rot chunks out of your fucking face
and your nose falls off and shit.
Yeah.
And apparently that really started hitting Europe right after the Mayflower and the Pinta
and the Santa Maria.
Like right after that.
Do you have a piss?
You making that I got a pee move?
Okay.
Okay.
Just checking.
So they were,
but there was another version of syphilis,
apparently that already existed in Europe
that they think came from bestiality.
He's sick fucks.
I don't know.
Is that true?
Is that fake?
I don't know.
This says,
importantly,
like smallpox, fucks that's true is that fake I don't know this says important importantly
like small smallpox there is no known animal reservoir for syphilis animal
reservoir that mean that they can't keep it hold it store it yeah I mean you
can't get it from them um I thought that oh so that means that animals don't have
syphilis so it's not so what was the origin for the original syphilis in Europe?
I gotta swear, I thought I read something about it being connected to animals.
Maybe that was just a rumor.
Maybe that was one of those things that was like, people thought that's what happened,
but then they found out it's not the case because there wasn't an animal reservoir.
Because you know that animals have COVID, which is really weird. weird like deer they've tested a bunch of deer that have covid and they're like
how how the fuck did they get covid how did how do wild deer get covid right like really how did
that spread but i think during the height of the pandemic there was like a good percentage of deer
that they would test that tested positive for COVID-19.
Maybe because of the, if it's in an area where there's feeders or something.
Could be.
Human contamination.
Could be.
Could be.
Maybe people handling the deer.
If it's not wild deer, maybe it's deer that get released in the wild and they give it to the wild deer.
Yeah, like what deer are getting COVID tested?
Probably ones near humans.
Well, definitely ones near humans because they're probably ones that were hunted.
They shot them and then they tested them.
I'm pretty sure that was how they found out.
I don't know.
I'm not sure about that, though.
This article even says that medieval DNA studies didn't come, Columbus didn't trigger syphilis in Europe.
They already had it there.
Yes, but what this guy was saying the other day that was telling me that he understands, he's a doctor.
He's saying there's really two different kinds of syphilis, though.
It's like syphilis did already exist in Europe.
But he said it's pretty obvious that the syphilis
that happened specifically right afterwards seemed to be more aggressive and different.
And this was the idea that the syphilis had come from America.
They went looking...
Okay, the team went looking for syphilis.
What they found was a much wider array of treponemal strains, not just syphilis, but also yaws,
which today is found exclusively in the tropics, and a previously undiscovered strain with no
modern day counterpart. We see that many different lineages were present in Europe, which we did not
know before, Schooneman says. What's more, the dating range, given the two strains is bounded on the lower end by ages in
the early to mid 1400s potentially the first dna evidence that syphilis existed in europe prior
to columbus's contact with the americas interesting so it may be that it existed there but then they
brought back a more virulent strain or something i don don't know. I don't know who's right, but it is wild that that's one of the ways that these infectious diseases got
passed on. People would just show up with them. And that's the thing, like when people talk about
the genocide of the Native Americans, what they leave a lot of folks, maybe no one even knows,
that 90% of them die because of diseases. Right. Imagine a country where 90% of the people die.
Imagine if like this thing that's happening right now where the borders are open and all
these South American people are just storming through.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
If you see the border of America, it's fucking nuts.
It's a wide open border, which is just insane.
But when you're watching that, imagine if they brought over a disease that killed 90% of the people here.
Whoa.
That's what happened in 1492.
Whoa.
I never thought of it that way.
Yep.
There was 100 million Native Americans here at one point in time, they estimate.
Did you say 100 million?
100 million.
Oh, fuck.
Damn.
Yeah.
We were, that was.
How wild is that?
That's crazy.
That's the high estimates.
Make sure that's true. I. Make sure that's true.
I'm pretty sure that's true.
But they used to think there was much less.
And then as time has gone on, they've realized also they've been here a lot longer than they thought.
They found footprints of people that were here 22,000 years ago.
They had this idea of Clovis first.
I don't know what the specific time period of Clovis, but the Clovis period, they thought that was the beginning of people in North America.
And now they're like, nope, we found footprints of people 22,000 years ago.
They're like, holy shit.
Yeah, 100 million or more.
Population figures for the indigenous peoples of America prior to European colonization have been difficult to establish. By the end of the 20th century, most scholars gravitated towards an estimate of around 50 million, with some
historians arguing for an estimate of 100 million or more. In an effort to circumvent the hold in
which the Ottoman Empire held on the overland trade routes to East Asia, and the hold that the
attorney Regis granted to Portugal on maritime routes via the African coast and the Indian Ocean,
the monarchs of the nascent Spanish Empire decided to fund Columbus's voyage in 1492,
which eventually led to the establishment of settler colonial states
and the migration of millions of Europeans to the Americas.
That's nuts.
What an invasion. What a crazy invasion. I mean,
that is one of the wildest stories in human history. And it's so ironic that at that
same place, people are bitching that people are storming in from the border.
Yeah. It's kind of funny. I mean, they have a good point.
You really do have to have secure borders.
But still, it's kind of wild that this one country
that was literally established as a place to go to
when you're fleeing a place that sucks.
You're like, yeah, we're full.
We're full, kids.
Stay out.
I wonder what the study is on that in, like, Australia.
I've never really thought about the number of the natives that were there before.
Well, the crazy thing about Australia, my friend Adam Greentree, you know Adam.
Yeah.
He was here the other day explaining to us the number of different languages they have
and that a lot of them aren't even written down
and that these tribes will be, they're called the mobs of Aborigines,
that a mob will be 30 kilometers or 300 kilometers away
from another mob,
and they speak a totally different language,
and they don't even know what it is.
Like, they can't communicate with each other.
Wow.
They said there's hundreds of them,
hundreds of different languages.
So if they needed a cup of sugar,
they wouldn't even know how to ask for it.
They'd not ask for it.
And they've been around for a long fucking time man they've been in that place
for a long long long long long time and they find like ancient artwork on the walls of caves and
shit and sides of cliffs it's like he's found a bunch of like ancient aborigine art because it's
so wild you're just like you're looking at this thing like how old is this like no one even knows wow yeah bro they used to have um was it in australia no it was new zealand i
think they had a they had an eagle that could kill people it was called the host eagle it was an
enormous eagle and they think they went extinct because people decided to kill them because they were killing people.
Probably.
Yeah.
So they found the, you know, the whatever fossils and skeletons, this fucking eagle.
And they found, I think there, I don't know if it's, I don't know if they're connected.
But I know they found primates.
There's a lot of primates that get killed by eagles.
It's like a common thing, especially in South America.
There's an eagle called the harpy eagle.
It's amazing.
I think it's the biggest of the eagles that are alive today.
And it kills a lot of monkeys.
And when the monkeys see that fucking eagle coming, man, they go crazy.
They scream and run.
They run around the tree.
They're trying to hide.
This motherfucker comes in looking like a demon.
Just a snatching demon from the sky.
They keep that sloth population in check, though.
Good luck being a sloth.
Easy pickings.
Nature fucked them.
Why did nature do that?
Imagine.
They have to eat eucalyptus all the time.
Or they start to fucking get antsy.
I think that's a koala bear.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
Koala bears are actually like little bears.
They're actually there.
They behave like bears.
Apparently, when they mate, it's very aggressive.
Oh, yeah.
I held one, and for the first time time I think the last time I was there
Just finally got around to the stupid zoo visit and fucking
They do have you have you held one no oh, it's so interesting so like holding a bear bear
It is a bear it is and it's just a little bit. It's like dense
yeah, it feels like two or three bowling balls like right once and
yeah it feels like two or three bowling balls like at once and you know they'll have like a hand on you or whatever so the person or you has to keep feeding it leaves of eucalyptus and if it
goes like if it goes it felt like these are because these were some addicted like child
star fucking koala bears that work at the zoo all day so i don't know if they're all like this but
if they go like 10 or 20 seconds without getting another hit of eucalyptus their fucking little hands start
to fucking claw at you well not claw at you but like let you know a little grip right hey fucker
right yeah they get a little like snoop doesn't he paws your face yep pet me bitch yeah yeah
And he paws your face.
Yep.
Pet me, bitch.
Yep.
Yeah.
Eucalyptus addicts.
Yeah, that's a weird thing, man.
You get a wild animal, you just keep, look, I got him tamed.
Look, I got him tamed.
It's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Where's the fucking food?
Right.
I know I look cute.
Yep.
I'll bite your fucking nose off, bitch.
Now imagine a bear that's 1,000 pounds.
Yeah.
Think that little thing, like how dense it feels, right?
Oh, it's crazy.
Imagine one as big as this room.
That's how big they are.
Does anybody ever hunt them with bows and arrows?
Yeah, they do, a lot.
Yeah.
Look at them.
They're growling.
Whoa.
You've got to remember, those tiny little what look like tiny paws are holding up that heavy thing.
Yeah.
A little heavy thing.
Yeah, it's got claws.
I mean, it's climbing with ease.
They climb trees like it's nothing.
What a crazy looking animal, too.
Imagine the first guy to see one of those.
You're like, what is that?
Yeah.
Look at that fucking thing.
How strange. A giant. But at that fucking thing. How strange.
A giant. But I guess back then everything was strange.
They had so many.
I mean, Australia's got so many weird animals, man.
Yeah.
All the marsupials, I think, come from Australia, which is weird.
Like, how'd that happen?
Why you got a fucking hoodie when you get a front pocket you keep your baby in?
Like, what the fuck is that?
Yeah.
No other animals in the world, I don't think, have it.
So interesting.
I think they're the only animal.
I think it's only, I don't know if that's true,
if Australia's the only place where there's marsupials.
Because I know that Tasmanian tiger,
I think that was a marsupial, which is nuts.
Because it looked like a dog.
I don't know that one.
Tasmanian tigers.
70% are found in Australia.
The rest are found in the Americas.
Really?
What part of the Americas have-
Primarily South America,
13 in Central America,
and one species is the Virginia possum
in North America.
No shit.
There's a possum in Virginia?
That's a marsupial?
Wow.
What are the other big ones?
Because I know there's like, for sure the biggest ones, kangaroos get fucking giant.
There's two kangaroos.
There's a red one and a gray one.
I forget which one gets huge.
But one of them gets fucking huge.
Like real big.
And they'll fuck you up.
Like they're giant. They're like seven feet tall. And they'll fuck you up like they're they're giant they're like seven feet tall and
they'll fucking kick your guts out they get up on their back tail they'll sit up on the tail and
just fucking kick at you what is it a kangaroo oh yeah yeah oh they're crazy yeah yeah what am i
talking about right no i was thinking about how weird it was i got stuck on that fucking weed we
smoked during the kan Kanye song was powerful.
I typed, what are the marsupials in South America?
Am I incorrect that marsupials, they all carry their baby in their pouch?
That might not be the correct definition, but I thought so.
I thought so.
So there's marsupials in South America.
Yeah.
But the big weird ones are Australia.
Any members of the mammalian infraclass
marsupialia, all
extant marsupials are...
Oh, I usually have a pouch.
You usually have a pouch.
Kangaroos, wombats,
bandicoots,
wombat.
I've seen something recently.
Have you seen a shark
egg?
I don't think so. Alright you seen a shark, I guess, egg?
Whoa.
I don't think so.
All right.
Let me show you this one because it was a very specific kind.
Oh, I have seen sharks.
I thought sharks give birth.
So this is like the eggs before they're fertilized? This is a spiral shark egg.
Yo.
Whoa.
That's what the egg looks like?
The person that posted this video
like on TikTok,
or so yeah,
this is the one that was on TikTok recently.
They found it on the coast.
Holy shit.
Like on the edge
and they're trying to figure out
what they should do with it.
Usually they get like lodged.
Cook it.
Yeah.
You can see the larva.
Whoa.
That's amazing.
Holy shit.
Phillip would hit that shit
with a torch for three seconds
and take it right down.
Yeah.
It's another horn shark egg casing.
Horn shark.
Horn shark egg casing.
Look how beautiful that is.
So, a lot of questions about these guys.
People were asking me if they were hard because it looks like glass.
I know.
It looks like a Nerf ball.
They're actually soft.
Yeah, like a football we throw at our kids.
It's pretty squishy.
I don't want to squish it.
But let me see if we can, it's not really a new sun.
Wow.
Let's see if we can see through it at all.
Okay, so it's actually able to get a little bit.
Wow.
And you can see the little embryo in there.
Oh my God, it's alive.
Oh my gosh, this is so exciting.
Oh my God, the embryo's alive.
So could they take that and turn it into a shark,
or does it have to do that inside the mother's womb?
That's nuts.
If someone could grab that and raise it, I don't know.
Can you bring it to one of them chicken places?
Will they do it with chickens?
Put it in an incubator?
Yeah, an incubator.
I don't know. I doubt it.
Why can't you?
Because they hate sharks? Because people hate sharks?
We could go look for one and try, I guess.
I wonder what happens after that.
I was watching a fishing video in Key West,
and there's a bridge that these dudes fish on,
and when they catch a fish,
it's a mad rush to get the fish to the surface
because there's so many bull sharks there.
It's like infested with bull sharks.
And they lose fish all day long.
And so this guy catches a bull shark and cooks it and eats it.
And that's a real controversial thing nowadays because for whatever reason, it's like one of those ideological things.
People have decided that, oh, my God, you eat sharks.
Did you know sharks are endangered?
Like, no, maybe some maybe all over the world. Their numbers are down because of shark fin soup because they cut their fucking fins off.
But for the most part, no.
Like, especially in certain spots.
There's a lot of them.
It's like saying, are there grizzly bears?
Are grizzly bears an endangered species?
Well, they're not even in most of the places where they used to be, which is probably a good thing.
But that's it right there.
Well, it's going to hatch here in a second.
But they're not low numbers if you go to where they live.
There's a lot of them there.
It's just like they're not in San Francisco anymore.
Right.
But if you go to the north, they're there.
You can find – go to Alaska.
You'll fucking find a lot of them, man.
They're there.
So it comes out like that.
I guess in theory you could put one in an aquarium because that's where they have.
So they just lay them.
Yeah.
And then they come out like that.
Okay, so that's a different kind of shark because I think some sharks give birth to live offspring.
Yeah, I've never even heard of a horn shark.
It looks a little bit like a hippo's face.
It's wild looking.
Look at that.
It looks kind of like a hippo to me.
Yeah.
Yeah. What a cool egg, though. God, look at that. Looks kind of like a hippo to me. Yeah. Yeah.
What a cool egg, though.
God, that's amazing.
Yeah.
That's one of the wildest things about the ocean.
If the ocean did not exist and we found a world somewhere that was filled with the creatures of the ocean, we would be freaking the fuck out.
We'd be like, dude, it's so nuts.
They got mammals.
They speak languages.
They have these creatures
that hide from each other
by literally mimicking
the floor of the ocean
until something comes by.
There's only a few sharks.
Like a cat shark,
which I've never heard of.
Lay eggs.
So most sharks give birth
to live offspring.
Wow.
Interesting.
Cat shark. Whoa. Wow. Interesting. Cat shark.
Whoa.
That's cool.
You know what the weird one is?
Like, you can't keep a great white shark in an aquarium.
I also noticed that horn shark had two dorsal fins.
Maybe there's some sort of differentiation between, like, this is technically not a fish, but it is a shark, but it's laying eggs.
Right, like a cousin. Yeah. Yeah. because it doesn't really look like a shark traditionally well it looks a lot
different than the sharks that fuck up surfers that's the thing that keeps me from surfing bro
yeah oh i'm not into it i watched a video yesterday i don't i don't know if it was real
but it was a guy on a surf surfboard where the shark just up and just gets his whole chest.
Ugh.
God.
It sends him into the air and is just getting his whole chest with a bite, and you're watching it.
I don't know if it was real, though.
That's the thing about today.
Right.
It looked real.
Yeah.
Looked like a surfer, and then all of a sudden he gets bit.
I don't fuck around with the ocean at all.
The rivers here, the lakes here, all nice, very fun.
I'll never get in the ocean again.
Never liked it when I did.
Not my thing.
It's a spooky place.
Yeah, it's crazy.
You're very, very, very vulnerable in that spot.
It doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, you can't move good.
Uh-uh.
You go into a place where there's a bunch of monsters
and you can't move good?
Slow moving compared to them. You're so slow. You're like, boom. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Boom. Good you go into a place where there's a bunch of monsters, and you can't move good slow
We're like a cheerio. We're the one cheerio left in a cereal bowl for them. It's just scoop I was watching a video yesterday of a shark attacking another shark bites the sharks tail off
So there's one smaller shark is swimming and this big shark
comes up behind it and bites his tail off you want to get in there with that they kill each other
you want to get in there with that they're monsters they move so much faster than you
you're so vulnerable and they kill each other what are they going to do to you they're going
to try you we think they're going to oh that's a person I don't like people they're just the mindless black-eyed like no no nothing just death in that eye yeah
that's like space that I that I has no emotion just and you're gonna get in
there with that what for thrills oh you like the way the water feels under the
board okay I have a lot of friends who do it god bless you yeah not me wild not me
crazy not me i'd want to be in an iron man outfit with missiles yeah out of here that'd be
a fun way to do it that video of that guy getting eaten off the egyptian coast is absolutely horrific
you know i still haven't seen that oh my god It's horrible because the guy's getting killed while Stand By Me is playing.
Ugh.
And you're watching the guy bob up and down.
He's screaming for his dad while the shark is eating him alive in front of everybody.
In front of a resort.
Damn.
Bro.
It's a scary way to go, man.
Yeah.
Imagine resorts. Imagine if there was a resort and the
resort was at the edge of the forest if you go in the forest you go at your own peril because
there's werewolves out there and most people are like yeah but it's really fun to like skirt along
the edges of the werewolf park as long as you don't go in the park too deep like hey just i
really love being in the trees it's worth it
it's worth the risks werewolves are only a werewolf once a month the moon has to be full
every other day you can just like you can go fuck in the woods you don't have to worry about shit
right you could you go camp you could have a good time but when that fucking moon is full there's way more sharks than werewolves oh yeah
oh yeah there can only be a couple of werewolves right yeah this is the new thing in colorado
they just released wolves um so oh population of um this area where the wolves are being released
two-thirds of the people voted against wolf release.
Colorado's releasing wolves and taking Trump off the ballot at the same time.
Yeah, they're releasing wolves and they have this ideological idea.
The problem with releasing wolves is, yeah, wolves used to be there and wolves are cool.
But the world's different now. They have ranchers there and these ranchers, they're going to be there and wolves are cool. But the world's different now.
They have ranchers there.
And these ranchers, they're going to get attacked by wolves.
Their cattle are going to get slaughtered by wolves.
People are going to lose their dogs.
Everything around there is going to have to deal with these repercussions.
People that are actually around wolves, whereas the people that voted for it for the most part are in these urban areas where they're like, oh my God, wolves are amazing.
Let them go.
But they don't know what a wolf is because they're never around them.
It doesn't mean that wolves aren't cool.
They're the coolest fucking animal of all time.
But boy,
you want to bring them in.
You want to get,
you know,
were they bad wolf?
You want them really in your neighborhood?
Were they there and not there anymore because the ranchers killed them?
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
They killed them.
The people coming across America killed them because they were killing all the cattle and they were killing people's dogs.
And, you know, it was, you know, not good that they made them extinct.
But not good also if you let them populate unchecked.
So the problem is they, a lot of times they get them in and the pretense from these wildlife biologists, when they hit a number they'll open up a season for wolf hunting but most people are opposed to wolf hunting
ideologically because you're like wolves are amazing they're beautiful you shouldn't hunt them
right but the thing is you let them go and now if they're there and they overpopulate like
historically that's been terrible and i know people don't remember because we've never had like wolf issues during our lifetime because the settlers killed the wolves.
If they didn't, there would be wolf issues.
That's just a fact.
If you let a large population of wolves exist in a place where people exist, you're going to have wolf problems.
And people in Canada are well aware of this.
And people are in Alaska.
They're well aware of this. And now people in Alaska. They're well aware of this.
And now people are going to find out in all those areas where they've brought wolves.
And if they don't manage the population, it could get to be a problem.
I've talked about it ad nauseum, but I'll bring it up one more time.
In World War I, there was a ceasefire between the Germans and the Russians because so many of them were getting killed by wolves.
They decided to band together and hunt the wolves.
Guess what?
That can happen here.
Yeah.
That can happen everywhere.
That can happen where wolves are,
especially if you let wolves go unchecked
and if the people that live in the city is like,
wolves are amazing.
I wish there was more of them.
So it said they're just releasing five?
Is that what it said?
What does that mean, though?
Right.
They're going to fuck. Yeah. They're, though? Right. They're going to fuck.
Yeah.
They're going to stick together.
They're going to fuck.
And then, you know.
There's also wolves that are making their way into Colorado organically.
Because Colorado borders Wyoming.
Wyoming has wolves.
And wolves are coming in organically.
And they think maybe grizzly bears.
There's been reports.
My friend Adam Greentree, who we were just talking about before, he got video footage of what he says is maybe grizzly bears there's been reports my friend adam green tree that
we're just talking about before he got video footage of what he says is a grizzly bear looks
a lot like a grizzly bear in the san juan mountains there's been reports of people seeing
them makes sense they can they can walk over there you know but to bring them in and to want more of
them more want more wolves like you better be willing to manage their population because it'll
get to a point where then people will revolt it's gonna get it'll get sketchy it'll be like a lot of
other things that happen in this country that are ideological decisions you know that like people
they think about like a wolf with their emotions like wolves are amazing they're incredible
creatures i want to see a wolf. Do you?
Are you sure?
Do you want to die by a wolf?
People die by wolves.
That's Little Red Riding Hood.
That's what that's all about.
Those kids' stories about the big bad wolf.
What that was was about humans used to get attacked by wolves.
They'll fucking kill you.
I don't think we had them in Ohio, right?
Of course we did, at one point in time.
Wolves have larger-than-life places than the human imagination.
The stories we all grow up with and tell each other, said Polis.
To see them in their natural habitat and turn around cautiously, curiously at us
is a really special moment that I will treasure for my entire life.
So that's the governor who was really
smiling and clapping because he thinks he's doing the right thing when they release the wolves.
He thinks he's doing the right thing. You know, you just have to manage the population.
And it's really hard to do that. That's the reason why they poisoned all the wolves
back then. That was really the only way to significantly affect their population numbers. You can't hunt them. You can, but you're not going to put a dent in them. They're
just too good. They're too smart. They're too good at moving. They're going to smell you from a mile
away. Once they realize that you're hunting them, good luck. Unless you're hunting them from
helicopters and you're doing it in a really barbaric way, just have a hunter go hunt them.
like a really barbaric way.
Just have like a hunter go hunt them.
The best hunters are, you know, not that successful wolf hunting.
Like wolf hunting is difficult.
It's a really hard thing to do.
You know, they get smart.
And also you have to go to where they are.
And they're very nomadic.
They can move around.
They travel.
They can traverse a mountain so easily.
They can get away from you so easily.
You ever see one when you're hunting?
Never see.
I saw one once going across the road, I believe.
I'm not entirely sure, but it looked like a big dog, and it was really late at night,
and it was in Alberta where they have a lot of wolves, and we were in the woods.
It was going across a dirt road, but it was at darkness, like past dusk.
It was starting to get dark.
But I saw this thing run across the road.
But I've never seen one up close.
Yeah.
That was the one that's driving us through past Yellowstone.
Is that Wyoming?
Yellowstone is in Montana and Wyoming.
Yeah.
But we were going through, I think, Wyoming for some reason.
And maybe Montana. But anyway,
I had something like that where I thought I saw a bison and the whole kill Tony crew that was in the car is I'm driving,
but I had been driving for hours.
So I don't really,
but I'm,
I was positive at the time.
They have them out there.
Yeah.
But everyone else,
there was someone in the back.
I can't remember,
but someone was like,
no,
I saw that it was a blah, blah, blah. I'm like, no, it was a b the back, I can't remember, but someone was like, no, I saw that.
It was a blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, no, it was a bison.
They might not know.
Yeah.
You could both, either one of you could have been right.
They definitely do have them there, though.
Have you seen one of those?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I've seen them in Yellowstone.
Yellowstone's weird because it's like this open-air zoo.
The animals behave so much different.
The elk just hang out over by where the fucking vending machine is.
They're just laying on the ground.
I took a couple selfies with them.
Wow.
Yeah, I gave myself some distance.
I didn't run up on them, but I'm like, all right.
They're everywhere.
And they've realized that the wolves don't come to the visitor center,
so they hang around the visitor center so they don't get jacked by wolves.
Because when they reintroduce wolves into Colorado, that's where they reintroduce them.
Excuse me.
When they reintroduce wolves into Montana, that's where they reintroduce them.
They reintroduce them into Yellowstone.
And they spread out from there and went all over the place.
Wow.
Yeah.
And what was the thought behind that?
The Yellowstone people wanted that?
Well, I think it was wildlife biologists and conservation groups, and people voted on it.
And I think the idea was to reintroduce them and then manage their numbers.
But then the thing becomes once they've reintroduced them, then the wildlife activists, they don't want you to hunt them. And so there becomes a lot of disputes about whether or not they should open up a wolf hunting season.
They have in Montana. They haven't in other places. I think you can hunt wolves in Montana.
You could definitely hunt wolves in Canada. I think you can hunt wolves in Idaho.
So you can trap them?
No, you can trap. There's a bunch of different laws in different places.
I don't want to speak out of tone.
Out of line. But I know
you can hunt them.
Legally, you can shoot them
in a bunch of states now.
Montana, I believe, is one of them.
What states can you hunt wolves in?
What do you do?
Can you eat a wolf? You can.
No one does though.
But like some of the trappers, like there's like ancient trappers and one of these guys was a famous ancient trapper.
I forget his name but his favorite food was wolf.
He liked to eat wolves.
The only time it's acceptable to shoot a wolf in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming, states where wolves have had to undergo reintroduction, is when a wolf attacks a person or threatens livestock.
Well, where are they hunting wolves then?
Is this still true?
So ranchers can shoot them.
So it must be only Canada and Alaska?
A wolf tag.
Okay.
Wolf permit can be purchased under the deadline,
but a purchase after the deadline requires a 24-hour wait period for use.
The cost of a non-resident wolf tag is $50.
So that means you can buy a tag for wolf hunting.
Is this an old?
I just typed in.
I literally typed in.
Right.
Can you hunt wolves?
But is that an old article where it says there's no wolf hunting?
Oh, it's no wolf hunting inside the park itself.
Yeah, this one was for Yellowstone.
Right.
You can't hunt wolves.
You can't hunt anything in Yellowstone.
Right.
But where can you legally hunt wolves?
Can you just Google where can you legally hunt wolves?
Right here.
Okay, there it goes.
Where can you legally hunt wolves in Canada or the United States?
Yeah, it's like province to
province.
However, wolves have been delisted
from the Endangered Species Act. They're now managed
by state wildlife agencies. That means
hunting and trapping of gray wolves is
allowed in certain states, but with specific
regulations and hunting seasons in place.
So that's when they delisted them, when they realized they had gotten to a point.
But they think they've gotten beyond the point where they initially said they would start hunting them.
Which states hunt wolves?
This is 2012, though.
Okay.
Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Bad day to be a gray wolf in Wyoming, which today begins the first wolf hunting season in more than half a century.
Okay, Wyoming, you can hunt them.
It's one of three states.
The other two are Minnesota and Wisconsin that will offer hunts for the first time in decades this fall.
It's not easy.
I talked to a guy who was a wolf hunter on Instagram.
He's killed quite a few wolves.
With a gun.
With a rifle, yeah.
And he was telling me,
it's not easy.
It's very difficult.
It's hard to get to them.
They're very smart.
And the whole idea behind it
is that like,
oh my God,
these hunters are gonna kill
so many wolves.
He's like,
most people are not gonna go through
with this to get a wolf.
He's like,
it's very hard to do.
And they travel in packs.
They travel in packs.
And if you're out there on your own and you only have one
rifle and they want you, right?
You got a problem. Yeah. And
if you're going to be out there, you're going to have to
probably be in a small party of people
like you and maybe one or two other people
to avoid detection
and to be able to sneak up on them.
And then you're super vulnerable.
Oh my God. Oh my God.
If they find out you're hunting them and they find out you have to do this every time you want to reload.
We got all the time in the world.
I mean, it takes a second or two.
Oh, yeah.
If one's coming in this way and one's coming in that way and you shoot that one, they just fucking just sprinting.
Get you from the sides.
If wolves realize that people have to reload,
then you're going to have to have
semi-automatics. You're going to have to have people on the sides
of you.
You're going to have to have wolf-proof outfits.
Where was he hunting wolves at?
Alaska? I'm not sure. It's one of those
states, I guess. Maybe it was Wyoming. I thought it was
Montana. But I know, I've seen
wolf hunting videos. There's this guy, Ryan Lampers, who's a fascinating dude. Who's a hunter
who is a, just like very articulate, very intelligent, interesting guy. And, uh, he
hunted a wolf and put it on YouTube. And I was watching this like, this is wild. You can watch
someone shoot a wolf on YouTube, wolf hunting, but wherever he was, it was legal. like, this is wild. You can watch someone shoot a wolf on YouTube.
Wolf hunting.
But wherever he was, it was legal.
He had a wolf tag.
That's why I was asking.
I was like, what states?
So I guess Wyoming's one of them.
I don't know what the seasons are,
if you could do it at only specific times.
But they're not putting a dent in the population.
That's the point.
The point is they're going to keep growing. Their their their packs gonna keep growing unless they do something about
it and they're never gonna do what they did when they killed them off in the
beginning they just left a bunch of dead horses and they filled them up with
strychnine and wolves would go and eat the horses yeah and the alphas would get
it first right so the alphas would get sick and die off and then it would
confuse the population and the rest of them would go and eat it, and they'd all die.
Wow.
Yeah.
Pretty amazing.
Pretty amazing that they killed off the wolves that way.
You read before to now, this was updated last year or this year, it's changed in Wisconsin at least. Maybe Minnesota also. So they can't hunt them anymore in Wisconsin. And they're relisted on the Endangered Species Act in February of 2022
after the hunting and trapping season killed 218 wolves,
which represented 83% more than the state's goal.
So that was Wisconsin.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Let's go back up again.
An Alaska wolf season generally stretches from August 1st to April 30th,
though different game management units may have different dates.
Idaho allows wolf hunting year-round on private land.
Public land is more restricted.
Depending upon the game management unit,
the season could span from August 1st to June 30th
or be earlier and shorter from April 1st to November 14th.
Trapping also has a more restricted season in both public and private land.
Trapping is rough.
Yeah, that's weird.
Trapping is rough.
That's a rough one.
Yeah.
That's a rough one.
Fucking clamp them down or strangle them.
And then just trap there, freezing to death.
Yeah.
They find them like rigor mortis
that's crazy yeah it's wild you know it's wild fur is offensive to people like tim dillon came
in the other day at his giant raccoon coat on amazing yeah uh fur is offensive but leather is not right leather is just skin without the hair
that's all it is
but skin with the hair is like hey
right
you're a terrible person and the person probably has a leather belt on
yeah
might have like leather sneakers on
leather is fine
you are also participating in death
yeah
where they just get the skins off this thing
and turn them into your clothing,
and you're fine with that.
Yeah, it's hairless death.
That's okay.
As long as you take the hair off
and make it black and shiny.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Most people's shoes.
What percentage of shoes,
especially dress shoes, are leather?
Oh, yeah.
Super high percentage, right?
And purses and luggage.
Here's how goofy California is.
California made it so you can't have Python anymore.
The skin?
Yeah.
So if you want to buy Python boots, you can't get them in California.
It's illegal.
You son of a bitch.
What are you doing?
Meanwhile, Florida is overrun with pythons.
Yeah.
Florida has so many pythons, they have a bounty on them.
I literally was gifted.
This is how crazy Texas is.
I was gifted last night.
Someone had it sent up to the green room.
I was gifted python cowboy boots last night, less than 20 hours ago.
You'd be arrested in California.
They'd arrest you.
That's amazing.
Yeah, and then charge you all kinds of crazy taxes.
Yeah.
Hilarious.
It's nuts, dude.
Normal day.
It's nuts.
This country might as well be a bunch of different European states. Like European countries that have completely different languages,
completely different cultures.
It's so different here.
It's so different in so many ways.
It's so ridiculously different that you look at what people are tolerating
in these other places.
You're like, why?
Why let them tell you what to do?
It's crazy.
Dude.
Pythons aren't endangered, you fucking idiots.
Bro, San Francisco is a different fucking world.
Yeah, you went, huh?
This tour, this stand-up tour that I've been on has been crazy.
Because it's been a real like, okay, let's see where they're at.
Because you're in downtown, you're at a hotel downtown, you're at the airport.
So you get the same type of barometer for each city and what they're going through or how they've recovered in San Francisco, downtown San Francisco.
And I can't believe, and of course they're not, but I can't believe how the news or any mainstream things don't cover this more.
Because it is crazy.
The damage control, however this isn't a huge story.
It should be as big of a story as, remember, like Flintwater?
Yeah.
It's like that, except it's the streets.
So unless you're getting out of a fucking, you know, out of a door and walking straight
across the sidewalk into where you're going, you're at massive risk at any point in San Francisco.
The streets are rampant with everything and anything.
Wow.
I saw more people shooting up on the sidewalk.
I saw more people shitting.
I saw humans shitting multiple, multiple.
It's just a normal thing.
You just poop on the sidewalk.
You get out of a wheelchair
and you lean over next to your wheelchair.
You go poop and you pull your pants
up and you get back in the wheelchair and they keep going down the street it's like grand theft
auto at night time you know what i mean things people are just straggling along it's just but
nothing nothing's really driving i wasn't personally driving we had we had a car service
there jesus christ but let me tell you what stood out is the fucking hotel had massive private security guards that looked like cops.
But they're not cops.
They're security guards.
Because the cops are whatever.
They're busy or defunded or whatever is going on up there.
They're nowhere to be found.
up there they're nowhere to be found and so these the like say a nice hotel or a nice venue has to hire not off-duty cops but fucking security massive like old football players and shit
just huge dudes with fucking just to keep the kooks out exactly because the weekend that we
went there they had just raised i can't remember the thing but they're like you're here on a
special weekend whoever picked us up from the airport.
So this is the weekend that goes in effect
where you can now loot
up to a higher amount.
Like last week it was 800, now it's
2,000 or 10,000. It's something
crazy. That's a good idea.
What is? The looting thing.
Make it so that you can just loot.
Well, I mean, there's a point where we're standing out there smoking everything looking at a store
Across the street and we're like we could go in there and fucking take something like we could
Us and we're not being serious, but we it's literally like you could go and you can take something
You know how they have everything locked up in plastic?
Yeah, Whitney sent me this video of this guy in New York City, and he brings a blowtorch into a Walgreens.
And he just blowtorches those plastic things and pops them open and takes all the medication out and all the stuff that he wanted out.
Oh, my God.
Puts it in a bag.
No one stops him.
Again, how much of this is engineered?
Again, how much of this is engineered? How much of this is the great conspiracies about people that are trying to engineer the downfall of America? What better way than destabilizing all the cities with rampant crime and constantly changing the laws to make it easier and easier to commit those crimes and never adjusting, never adjusting when you see that
there's more chaos, more looting, but never adjusting. Constantly defund the police,
constantly do all the things you did that led to this mess. Double down, double down,
double down till when? Till when? Till it's that movie? Till when? Right. Till when?
You might've seen this guy before.
He runs a channel called Channel 5 now.
It used to be called All Gas, No Brakes.
I watched this video he made.
This is not all the footage he got, but he has a 45-minute documentary on the streets of San Francisco.
Just here at the beginning, he's interviewing a guy.
I think this guy's about to smoke crack. And while it's happening, a big race driver gets their car robbed right in front.
He goes with in-depth crazy he meets some crazy people the car's just rolling with no no one's driving
yeah someone took it he he goes with this guy is someone driving that it looks like he's just
rolling in reverse with the car door wide open after i said grand theft auto so oh my where else
do you see that other than grand theftft Auto? That is so crazy.
So he goes deep into the Tenderloin District.
Some of these guys are giving him really in-depth interviews admitting to stuff that would probably get him arrested.
But they're explaining why they're not afraid of saying it.
Why?
It's wild.
There's another 40-minute video with this guy named Jack the Bipper.
This guy goes around and steals stuff and explaining to him why. How he it he goes with him on one of his like robberies um some of it's tucked on his
patreon which i have not seen and some of that looks even crazier one of the videos he goes
jack the bipper's got a patreon no no this guy that made this whole thing andrew
andrew callahan he's got an only fans He goes into a harm reduction facility. This is in a 30-minute video showing what they're giving people,
the drugs they're getting, the needles.
Some of the footage he got is insane.
And that's in San Francisco.
And this is just what's on YouTube again.
Some of it is not on YouTube, and it is crazier.
Wow.
And this is very recent footage.
He put this out within the last couple weeks.
So it's all up to date.
This is what it's like on the street there.
Okay.
Why?
Is that engineered?
Is that just a failure of government?
Just incompetent government?
Or is someone trying to fucking ruin the country?
Are they doing a really amazing job of it?
Is that what's happening?
Something's up.
If it wasn't happening, let's pretend it was.
Let's pretend there's some guy like the Joker, and he's engineering the collapse of America.
And he's doing it, and he's doing a really good job.
Like, if this was a movie, and you watch this movie in 2015, you'd be like, there's no way anybody could do that.
They couldn't do that.
It's not – 2015 is only eight years ago.
You're telling me that eight years ago someone could re-engineer society and have, like, a total collapse of law and order in the streets of San Francisco?
Right.
Dude, I filmed Triggered in San Francisco in 2016, and it was great.
Yep.
It was 2016. It was 2016.
It was great San Francisco.
We'd go to nice restaurants, hang around.
There was a few homeless people back then.
There's still people pooping in the street, but it was a small number.
Right.
There was no tents.
There was none of that.
Right.
So from 2016 to 2023, the whole thing has completely changed.
And that's one of the weirder parts is it's the same architecture
and beautiful hilly streets
and all of these San Francisco
the font on the
street signs
all the little, exactly.
And it's all still there except it's
fucking just
I mean everything is chaos.
And they're literally paying people. Paying people to live
on the streets. And it's a lot of it.
A lot of downtown.
Like, you have to go, like, over a bridge, and then you still see the outsiders scattered around.
And then, boom.
Like, it gets less and less, but you have to go.
I'm talking out of the city.
We didn't stop seeing chaos until at least 15, 20 minutes into our drive out of the city.
Apparently in Seattle, Bellevue has none of it.
Bellevue is the rich area of Seattle.
That's the beautiful downtown shopping area, gorgeous area.
Apparently they're like, eh, eh.
Right.
Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah.
No, this is where the rich people live.
Get the fuck out of here.
Right.
But in San Francisco, they're like, we need to help these houseless people.
Oh, it's the ultimate conundrum because it's like-
What are they doing?
Right.
What are they doing?
Is it engineered?
Are they-
Because they're-
Look, if it was-
Yeah.
Way to go.
I mean, you guys fucking nailed it.
Who would have ever thought?
I'll say this, is that one thing I noticed was we went to dinner, or basically lunch,
after we landed at a really, really, really good Chinese restaurant there in Chinatown.
I can't remember the name of it, but it's like legendary.
Anyway, and I did notice that a ton of the people around us, sitting around us, were gay couples.
Like gay men, gay San Francisco men were gay couples, like gay men,
gay San Francisco men, the other stereotype of San Francisco, right? Downtown at least.
And I thought to myself, I wonder if there's a correlation, right, between having an extremely high gay population and homelessness and looting and stuff running rampant, because I thought about
West Hollywood and Beverly Hills, right?
And I thought to myself, hey, maybe they're just butt fucking.
And then, you know, who gives a shit what's going on out there?
And by the time you get down there, you're so virtue signaling and progressive, right,
that there has to be a correlation.
I'm also so high by the way, so high.
I was trying to figure out
where you're going with this.
I have been fucked since that,
whatever that fucking thing is.
Yeah, good stuff.
I think it's a,
it's a progressive thing for sure.
Elon talked about it.
It's like there's a mind virus.
There's this woke mind virus.
And to go against that in any way
and to oppose these people camping out
is to be, to dehumanize them
and to you know to degrade their choices and it's just nuts it's just nuts that they've allowed it
to get so far gone to the point where how do you fix that and how did they fix that when
ji jingping came to town did anybody ever figure that out and what happened to those people where
they put them?
Nobody ever explained it.
They just moved everybody out, cleaned up the streets, put up fences.
No more camping.
Cleaned it up.
Put up them China flags.
Or they cleaned up his route.
But it doesn't matter.
His specific route with fences and everything.
It just shows that they could have done it all along.
Yeah.
So why wouldn't they?
If they could do it all along and they did it for the leader of China?
Right.
What?
Why wouldn't you do it for us?
Why wouldn't you do it for the people that live there to make it nicer?
What are you doing?
And did you let it go back?
Like what happened after Xi Jinping left?
Did you just like, eh, go back to shitting in the streets?
Yeah. They fucking pressure washed the streets. They did everything you have to
Because it's not dog poop. So you have to look down at the sidewalk runny diarrhea junkie poop. Yes
blatant human poop
Oftentimes that a lean of a 90 degree leans worth away from walls. Jack in the box and meth.
Yep.
Yep.
Thick, girthy,
runny, soft,
soft yet thick and long shit.
And you probably smell it.
And by the way, that's how plagues get started.
And you also see other shoe prints in the shit.
You know what I mean? You're like, oh, someone's
already, because it's like smeared and then you
have to look for that second step.
Imagine you come home, your dog's sniffing your shoes.
Like, why are you sniffing my... Oh, god damn it.
And you didn't realize you stepped in human shit.
And your dog's like, what the fuck are you bringing
in the house? Yeah.
Oh my god. I found out that
in Skid Row,
they found some medieval diseases.
I think they found typhoid
in Skid Row.
See if that's true.
Typhus, that's right.
Which is just nuts, man. That is like
a medieval disease.
And it came back in the day.
Look, if you go back
to ancient societies before they
had indoor plumbing,
people just shat out in the streets.
They shat in buckets and they threw it out into the streets.
Oh, my God.
They had public outhouses.
In New York City, in like the 1800s, they had public outhouses
where people would go out there and just shit.
Damn.
And they had these tenement buildings where everybody stacked on top of each other
just living in each other's shit.
Oh, my God.
2019s.
Who knows what there's now?
Inside the squalor on Skid Row as typhoid scare grips los angeles fucking typhoid look at that
good god what's that what is the crazy thing about skid row dude skid row was really bad when i was
filming fear factor skid row was really bad i had no idea it was discussed. It was not a thing that anybody talked about. Right.
We were filming downtown in like 2000.
Fear Factor started in 2001, so it's somewhere after that.
And we're downtown. So it's way before the pandemic, way before anything.
And I remember I drove down these streets, and one of the streets was like Skid Row.
I was like, holy shit.
One of the streets was like Skid Row.
I was like, holy shit.
Just row after row of people camping and living in washing machine boxes and refrigerator boxes and just open air drug use and zombies wandering down the street.
Thousands of people.
You can't believe it.
And that was engineered.
Skid Row was engineered yeah skid row was engineered skid row was a place where cops
would take people that were derelicts and all fucked up and you know they were in the way in
beverly hills just bring them skid row get out of here and they kept them in there oh yeah and they
put the the treatment places there and the food shelters there and the homeless shelters there
like stay here crazy they all stayed there they don't have any cars where they're gonna go when i moved to la right out of high school um my brother told
me you don't need to go downtown unless you absolutely have to go downtown like that's it
you can go west you can go all the way to the ocean but don't go downtown east is not the place
to go you can go north kind of you can kind
of go south major city where downtown's a disaster and that's exactly what i thought but all it took
was fucking it wasn't long after that where i missed the bus stop or something like that and
the whole thing fucking drops you off there and yeah that was it almost came back downtown almost
came back downtown was starting to get gentrified or established,
whatever you want to call it,
where they were putting in businesses in a lot of these abandoned places.
It was starting to become kind of cool again.
And a bunch of places opened there.
It was like a bunch of cool bars and cool restaurants
and 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu is in downtown.
And it's like starting to become a fun, exciting place to be.
But then the pandemic and all that progress that they had
just fucking collapsed upon itself.
And now it's just scary again.
All of LA is weird now.
All of LA has a weird vibe to it.
Just a different, it's a different place.
I always say that it's like,
if there was this girl that you used to date a long time ago and she was really cute.
And then you ran into her today and she's on meth and she works for the cartel.
Yeah.
Like, oh, my God, what happened to you?
Yeah.
What happened to you?
My neighbor I talked to for the first time in a long time, my neighbor from L.A., who we lived in the same building for years and years, uh, told me the other day,
he goes, yeah, it's, it's a lot better now. It's it, our little neighborhood is a lot better now.
It's like cleaned up. And I thought to myself, it's three years later, three full years since
I've been out of there. And you know, what I was also thinking is like the vulnerability,
and you know what i was also thinking is like the vulnerability you're right there it's the same thing but that happened there so how can you trust it again because i think i mentioned this on the
show before but i was like in it man yeah we were in it and i told him because again i haven't talked
to him in years i'm like man i'll never forget that fucking night because him and i walked out
and to the actual cross streets of fairfax
and third right after the big riots and like there was graffiti everywhere really took me back
talking with him about it because you know people say it's like the end of the joker movie and
things like that but it was really like the end of the joker movie and it's not a zoo or an amusement
park you're waiting to see like a line of people or people. And it's not a zoo or an amusement park. You're waiting to see a line of people
or people taking pictures.
But it was real.
It was like a Universal Studios ride.
I'm sorry.
Remember it was either the 101 or the 10
that had those cop cars that were on fire?
Like a bunch of them?
Remember watching that?
Yeah.
And that's your way out what the fuck
yeah that's like a movie scene yeah like no way look at all these cop cars on fire yeah there was
when we went out there on that big night the trader joe's that's behind us was on fire the
paper source across from that had its glass broken on people just running around okay putting fucking birthday cards into bags and just running to cars that had no license plate one after the
other after the other people running from every direction you were hearing broken glass from
different distances like oh god that's right here oh shit there they are yeah going into this i saw
one i saw one in woodland hills they smashed
into this closed store they were running into this closed store and we were driving by like
holy shit look at that yep they just smashed the window and they were running inside of it
and that night they had helicopters over melrose if you remember because a couple places were
completely on fire that big night and they were and the helicopters were filming all the different looting and that was
another one of my hoods was fucking all of that and the big things on fire and that you're watching
them empty and you know the people's faces you know who owns those businesses yeah hey matt hey
tony how's it going grabbing a coffee, whatever. Like neighborhood friends, everything. The coffee shop, the fucking watch repairman,
the fucking every job, dry cleaner.
All these people, all those relationships,
you're watching, taken out, their windows are broken
and people are just taking shit.
Wild.
It would never happen here.
I know that.
Well, it probably wouldn't happen here
because too many people are armed.
But also, how crazy is it that it happened there?
We would have never believed that.
Right.
Never believed that in 2015 that things could change so quickly.
But again, if you want to go full Alex Jones, that's the test run.
That's the test run.
If things can get that bad in that very specific area it takes
three years for them to recover imagine this scenario that you saw in that movie trailer
civil war movie trailer fuck dude
it's crazy maybe we'll pull out of the fire san diego was nice though
was it yeah it was still a lot of homeless downtown but yes
exactly military community yeah yeah that's what it is yeah a lot of discipline in that town
it seems like uh if people think that you could maybe might have a gun that people behave
themselves a little bit a little bit more yeah yeah interesting funny how that works so weird
all right i gotta be Let's wrap this up.
Tony, you're the man.
Rock and roll.
Appreciate you, brother.
Thank you so much.
I'm very, very happy
for your success.
Watching Kill Tony
crush it in arenas
has been really inspiring.
It's very cool.
Thank you.
And watching what you guys
have been able to do
in that show,
which is, I say it,
I'll say it again,
it's the cornerstone
of community in Austin.
It's the cornerstone
of the community
in this country,
which means it's the cornerstone of the comedy community in the world. It really is, because it
teaches people that it's just about being funny. It's about going for the joke. You have one minute.
There's no room for anything else, and it's all wild. It's a wild show.
We're having a blast.
You are having a blast. It's beautiful. I love it.
Thank you.
I'm very happy.
We're having fun at your club.
We're having so much fun dude
alright that's it
goodnight everybody
buh-bye